Talk:Friend Safari

Page Creation

Will somebody that can make pages actually start this so we can edit it or give me permission to? The friend safari is actually a very fascinating place that needs to be covered! ViperByte (talk) 17:47, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Didn't even see this message until I went and did it..... Problem solved. Schiffy (Speak to me|What I've done) 20:03, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Pokémon not obtainable anywhere but the Friend Safari

When adding locations to Pokémon articles, what do we do about these kinds of Pokémon? For example, I have X where Pupitar is unavailable. I caught one in the Friend Safari. Do we put that it's available in both games via Friend Safari? Also, a friend of mine got a Charmeleon from the Friend Safari. Do we list that as a location too? The thing is, everyone gets different Pokémon so that's where I'm not sure. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 20:11, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

I'm going to answer with my own opinion using both examples you've given.

• For Pupitar, I would say for both X and Y have "Friend Safari" and "Evolve Larvitar" as options, and for Y only, have the locations it can appear in naturally (Route 18 and Terminus Cave, I believe) in addition.
• For Charmeleon, I would say to have "Evolve Charmander" and "Friend Safari" for both games, and leave it at that, since those are the only two ways in either game that it can be obtained.

Anyway, this is just one opinion, but I would say to only ever have "Trade" as an option if there isn't another way to obtain it (besides Evolution), for example, this. Schiffy (Speak to me|What I've done) 20:16, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

IMHO, I don't think we should list the Friend Safari as a 'game location' for any species, pretty much ever. My reasoning for this is:

• Friend Safari is not like previous Safari Zones with a fixed selection of wild Pokémon that you can catch all of; it is not like Pokéwalker or Pokémon Dream World of previous games either. Because what you can catch depends on who is registered in your 3DS Friend List (requiring personal exchange of Friend Codes), we can never guarantee that a specific Pokemon will be available in a specific player's game.
• While we obviously do not have a full list, so far almost any non-legendary Pokémon (including wild starter Pokémon) can be caught in the Friend Safari with the correct friends registered. So for Pokemon that are more likely to be acquired via evolution (e.g. Fletchinder), mentioning Friend Safari is about as notable as mentioning that you can acquire a Pokemon from the GTS.

--Stratelier 20:02, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Given that the amount of Pokémon unavailable in X & Y is over 100 and given the fact that many Pokémon in X & Y cannot be caught there, I think it's relevant to mention it where applicable. We list Regirock, Regice and Registeel being catchable in Platinum despite needing an event Pokémon that can no longer be acquired. Besides, listing the location of all these Pokémon as Trade would imply that they can't be caught in Gen VI at all to at least some people. - Blazios _talk 22:01, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

I agree with Blazios, with the added stipulation that I think we should treat it like the Dream World in Gen 5: mention it only if the Pokemon is not otherwise available in-game. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 22:08, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

We mentioned every single occurrence of a Pokémon appearing in the Dream World in Gen V and continue to list them even though they're gone forever, I don't see why this should be any different. Friends can be registered locally without a Friend Code or Wi-Fi (all that's needed is a Mii on the 3DS), so they'll always be obtainable. I do think the template could use a slight tweaking for it, especially for Pokémon that are version exclusive outside the Friend Safari but available in both versions otherwise. Omitting the information from articles completely for Pokémon that are otherwise obtainable would imply that the Pokémon can't be found in Gen VI with its Hidden Ability (not counting Pokémon found in Hordes and their relatives, naturally). - Blazios _talk 18:36, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Finding the type based on Friend Code

So, it's clear that the type of a certain person's Friend Safari is based on their System's Friend Code, but what I'm curious to find out is if someone can find exactly how this is done. I could imagine the calculation isn't a world different from calculating whether a Pokémon will be Shiny based on its personality value or similar equations that have been used in games past. But if anyone can find it, it would be a useful addition to the article. Schiffy (Speak to me|What I've done) 20:21, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Spreadsheet

This spreadsheet may assist you in figuring out what you have and don't have out of the Friend Safari. Tell me if you have any comments/suggestions/questions!

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4hK...?usp=drive_web

Download away! (.xlsx) - unsigned comment from Namelessdeath (talk • contribs)

Friend Codes and Friend Safari Areas

Should we have separate Sub-Pages, or just somewhere on the page, to add Friend Codes for various different types so that we can add the type we want.--Tom (My Talk Page) 22:11, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Explaining how a friend code determines what type is in each person's Friend Safari is fine. Listing people's friend codes, or trading friend codes is something that's better left to the forums. --It's Funktastic~!_{話してください} 22:17, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

I think if someone is willing to offer theirs for examples sake so we can figure out the relation, it might be okay to add.... Schiffy (Speak to me|What I've done) 02:43, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Coming back to this, I've tried different manners of calculations combining XORs and Modulo 18s to see where it gets me, using the codes I have registered and the types they match up to. I've come up with no ascertainable pattern. If we can get a single forum thread going dedicated to finding the key with people who would, again, be willing to offer their codes for testing purposes, we just might get somewhere. Schiffy (Speak to me|What I've done) 20:18, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

IVs

Every pokemon I catch here has 2 random perfect IVs of 31. I don't think it's just me, it's gotta be a fact and worth sharing. DuelKING (talk) 19:36, 7 November 2013 (UTC)DuelKINGDuelKING (talk) 19:36, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

I can confirm this one (aside from the fact that Serebii had it, I've tested it plenty of times myself). What I've also noticed, but I'm not sure if this is an always, but two Pokémon in a row that I caught in the Safari also had two random really low IVs (the calculators I used all gave me 0-3 at Level 30 with no EVs, and I would not be surprised if they turned out to be just 0). Schiffy (Speak to me|What I've done) 19:43, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

The Pokemon always having two perfect IVs is true. The other part, having two really low IVs is not. Also, the IV checker in Kiloude's Pokemon Center will also tell you if they have 0 IVs. --It's Funktastic~!_{話してください} 19:45, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

To build on this, it seems that the game will allow for three or more perfect IVs by chance, so I doubt there are stats forced lower by the Friend Safari. --Super goku (talk) 23:44, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

However, why doesn't the IVs show in super training? Superbobbobbob3 (talk) 15:06, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Shiny Pokémon Chance Increased

I have noticed that various places have said that have found a shiny pokemon very easy in the friend safari (Clamed to be a 1/300 chance and in the friend safari it takes a lest 24 minuets to find one and five hours at the most.). This is some we should test out - unsigned comment from Superbobbobbob3 (talk • contribs)