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:It's the design of the tail that somewhat resembles arrow fletchings, but it could also be fledgeling. ''Ya'' is also arrow in Japanese, come to think of it. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 14:07, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
:It's the design of the tail that somewhat resembles arrow fletchings, but it could also be fledgeling. ''Ya'' is also arrow in Japanese, come to think of it. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 14:07, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
::Hatchling doesn't really factor into it, if you ask me. It's a fairly obvious combination of "fledgling" and "fletching". The words sound very similar and both factor into the Pokemon's design: Fletchling is a baby bird (fledgling) with tail feathers resembling those of an arrow '''and''' a white arrowpoint-mark on its tail (fletching). The only part related to "hatchling" is the "ling" which is already covered by "fledgling", and since Fletchling can fly it is technically a fledgling anyway, not a hatchling. Plus, as ArcToraphim pointed out, the mention of arrows has been included in both its English and Japanese name, probably for reasons that will become more apparent when we see it in action or see its evolution(s). Also as an interesting note, "fletching" comes from the French word for "arrow", and the Kalos region is based on France. Food for thought. [[User:Togeknight|~Destruction on Wings~]] ([[User talk:Togeknight|talk]]) 16:58, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
::Hatchling doesn't really factor into it, if you ask me. It's a fairly obvious combination of "fledgling" and "fletching". The words sound very similar and both factor into the Pokemon's design: Fletchling is a baby bird (fledgling) with tail feathers resembling those of an arrow '''and''' a white arrowpoint-mark on its tail (fletching). The only part related to "hatchling" is the "ling" which is already covered by "fledgling", and since Fletchling can fly it is technically a fledgling anyway, not a hatchling. Plus, as ArcToraphim pointed out, the mention of arrows has been included in both its English and Japanese name, probably for reasons that will become more apparent when we see it in action or see its evolution(s). Also as an interesting note, "fletching" comes from the French word for "arrow", and the Kalos region is based on France. Food for thought. [[User:Togeknight|~Destruction on Wings~]] ([[User talk:Togeknight|talk]]) 16:58, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
:No, because Fletching is the act of stabilizing an arrow with feathers, and the family is based off of arrows, as indicated by its name is several languages.  It's Fletching and Hatchling.  Clearly.--[[User:Nintenfreak|Nintenfreak]] ([[User talk:Nintenfreak|talk]]) 03:20, 23 June 2013 (UTC)


==Physiology==
==Physiology==
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I feel like this needs to be asked: is this thing a "regional bird"? And if so, would it be too assumptive to say it evolves? [[User:Dudey997|In '97, Dudley]] [[User_talk:Dudey997|didn't]] [[Special:Contributions/Dudey997|do right.]] 04:21, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
I feel like this needs to be asked: is this thing a "regional bird"? And if so, would it be too assumptive to say it evolves? [[User:Dudey997|In '97, Dudley]] [[User_talk:Dudey997|didn't]] [[Special:Contributions/Dudey997|do right.]] 04:21, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
:We won't know until it is revealed. And yes, it would be assumptive to say it evolves.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#025DA6">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#5A96C5">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EA1A3E">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F16A81">ire</span>]] 04:24, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
:We won't know until it is revealed. And yes, it would be assumptive to say it evolves.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#025DA6">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#5A96C5">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EA1A3E">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F16A81">ire</span>]] 04:24, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
::Isn't "Regional Bird" just a fan term anyway? [[User:Vienna Waltz|Vienna Waltz]] ([[User talk:Vienna Waltz|talk]]) 17:34, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Yes it is a fan term. We use it because it's a common term like "Eeveelutions"--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#025DA6">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#5A96C5">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EA1A3E">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F16A81">ire</span>]] 01:47, 25 June 2013 (UTC)


== Origin ==
== Origin ==
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I think it is, so should this be said in the trivia...? --[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] ([[User talk:Phoenixon|talk]]) 23:23, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
I think it is, so should this be said in the trivia...? --[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] ([[User talk:Phoenixon|talk]]) 23:23, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
:Not really, "Japanese Robin" is just the translation of its Japanese species name {{jwp|コマドリ}} (Komadori), literally "Horsebird".--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 23:31, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
:Not really, "Japanese Robin" is just the translation of its Japanese species name {{jwp|コマドリ}} (Komadori), literally "Horsebird".--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 23:31, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
== Evolution ==
Again, like the now-resolved [[Talonflame]] article, this article is worded in a way that suggests that Fletchling evolves subsequently into Talonflame. As I stated before, in agreement with DSDark and Zarthga in the Talonflame article talk page; "...[The article on Talonflame from the official Pokémon X and Y website] ''did'' say [it was] "''an'' evolution", and it does seem to be somewhat unusual grammar to use to describe the Pokémon that [[Fletchling]] evolves immediately into, which is why, coupled with the fact that it simply does not look like the immediate evolution of Fletchling, (although there are the occasional surprises *cough* *cough* [[Magikarp]] and [[Feebas]] *cough*), I have a hunch that it may not be the next in the Fletchling evolutionary line. Alternately, "''an'' evolution" may hint that it is a Pokémon with a split evolutionary line such as [[Ralts|Ralts's]] one which of course went into [[Kirlia]], then [[Gardevoir]]/[[Gallade]]. Or perhaps, it is intended to disguise that it ''is'' in fact, the evolved form of Fletchling. Nevertheless, it is not possible to determine at this current time, and so, I also agree that the evolution method should be worded in a way that does not suggest that [Talonflame] indefinitely evolves immediately from Fletchling." Perhaps ''this'' article should say that Talonflame is ''in an unconfirmed place somewhere in'' Fletchling's evolutionary line. Thank you for reading.--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 14:52, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
== Korean name for Fletchling ==
Its Korean name is 화살꼬빈 ''Hwasal'kkobin''. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 17:48, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
* 화살 ''hwasal'' means "arrow"
* 꼬 ''kko'' is likely from 꼬마 ''kkoma'' meaning "little thing", "small child", etc
* 빈 ''bin'' is likely from "robin" -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 19:09, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 19:09, 11 July 2013

Flame Charge

Yayakoma was revealed to be able to learn Flame Charge. Should that be added? MasterZ (talk) 23:00, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

No, because it is not known how it can learn it.--Den Zen 23:23, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Name Origin

Wouldn't it be more likely for Fletchling to be a combination of Fledgling and Hatchling than Fleching and Hatchling. A Fledgling is a young bird, and Fletchling is a basic Pokémon, also, I don't really see how the feathers on an arrow have anything to do with it's name. -EVsandIVsaurs 13:54, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

It's the design of the tail that somewhat resembles arrow fletchings, but it could also be fledgeling. Ya is also arrow in Japanese, come to think of it. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 14:07, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
Hatchling doesn't really factor into it, if you ask me. It's a fairly obvious combination of "fledgling" and "fletching". The words sound very similar and both factor into the Pokemon's design: Fletchling is a baby bird (fledgling) with tail feathers resembling those of an arrow and a white arrowpoint-mark on its tail (fletching). The only part related to "hatchling" is the "ling" which is already covered by "fledgling", and since Fletchling can fly it is technically a fledgling anyway, not a hatchling. Plus, as ArcToraphim pointed out, the mention of arrows has been included in both its English and Japanese name, probably for reasons that will become more apparent when we see it in action or see its evolution(s). Also as an interesting note, "fletching" comes from the French word for "arrow", and the Kalos region is based on France. Food for thought. ~Destruction on Wings~ (talk) 16:58, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
No, because Fletching is the act of stabilizing an arrow with feathers, and the family is based off of arrows, as indicated by its name is several languages. It's Fletching and Hatchling. Clearly.--Nintenfreak (talk) 03:20, 23 June 2013 (UTC)


Physiology

Thought I'd write up a base paragraph now that we have clear art, battle screenshots, and gameplay footage. Feel free to use and edit.

"Fletchling is a small, avian Pokemon, similar in appearance to a robin. Its head is large compared to its body and is reddish-orange in coloration. It has thin, black beak and large, round eyes. The eyes are dark with a small white circle, and a yellow marking extends from the back of each eye in a small triangle shape. Fletchling's body is gray in color, and the boundary between the colors of its head and body is a sharp line except for a few gray, fluffy-looking feathers on its front. It has relatively long, spindly legs which are black like its beak. Each foot has two toes facing forward and one pointing backward. Fletchling's wings are white on the underside and their uppersides are gray except for the first two primary feathers, which are white. When it folds its wings, they are ovular in shape and appear all gray with only the two white feathers showing. Fletchling has a long tail which it holds cocked at an upward angle. The tail feathers are black with a white arrow-marking pointing forward. The overall shape of the tail resembles the fletching on an arrow, with two larger main feathers and a smaller feather at the base on each side."

~Destruction on Wings~ (talk) 17:28, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Regional Bird?

I feel like this needs to be asked: is this thing a "regional bird"? And if so, would it be too assumptive to say it evolves? In '97, Dudley didn't do right. 04:21, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

We won't know until it is revealed. And yes, it would be assumptive to say it evolves.--ForceFire 04:24, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Isn't "Regional Bird" just a fan term anyway? Vienna Waltz (talk) 17:34, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
Yes it is a fan term. We use it because it's a common term like "Eeveelutions"--ForceFire 01:47, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Origin

Seeing as Fletchling is known to know Flame Charge, and is also a Robin, it is likely based off of the Flame Robin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame_Robin), along with the Japanese Robin already on the page. - unsigned comment from Dakar (talkcontribs)

That might be true, but the flame robin is way down in Australia. I would think developers would base Fletchling off something a bit more local and generic. Nuckles123 (talk) 16:31, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Also, we don't know if it knowing Flame Charge is anything special. Normal types may simply start becoming more diversified in the moves they can know via level up or TM, and what if Flame Charge is the only Fire move Fletchling can ever learn? Without knowing that, there isn't any connection at this point. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 16:42, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Yeah. Also the flame robin is only called that because of the red and orange coloring on its belly. A lot of robins are like that and i doubt it has little connection to any fire-type moves like Flame Charge. Nuckles123 (talk) 17:33, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Species name...

Is this the first time that the species name references a real world place (ie Japan)? I think it is, so should this be said in the trivia...? --Phoenixon (talk) 23:23, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Not really, "Japanese Robin" is just the translation of its Japanese species name コマドリ (Komadori), literally "Horsebird".--Den Zen 23:31, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Evolution

Again, like the now-resolved Talonflame article, this article is worded in a way that suggests that Fletchling evolves subsequently into Talonflame. As I stated before, in agreement with DSDark and Zarthga in the Talonflame article talk page; "...[The article on Talonflame from the official Pokémon X and Y website] did say [it was] "an evolution", and it does seem to be somewhat unusual grammar to use to describe the Pokémon that Fletchling evolves immediately into, which is why, coupled with the fact that it simply does not look like the immediate evolution of Fletchling, (although there are the occasional surprises *cough* *cough* Magikarp and Feebas *cough*), I have a hunch that it may not be the next in the Fletchling evolutionary line. Alternately, "an evolution" may hint that it is a Pokémon with a split evolutionary line such as Ralts's one which of course went into Kirlia, then Gardevoir/Gallade. Or perhaps, it is intended to disguise that it is in fact, the evolved form of Fletchling. Nevertheless, it is not possible to determine at this current time, and so, I also agree that the evolution method should be worded in a way that does not suggest that [Talonflame] indefinitely evolves immediately from Fletchling." Perhaps this article should say that Talonflame is in an unconfirmed place somewhere in Fletchling's evolutionary line. Thank you for reading.--ShinyPatch (talk) 14:52, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Korean name for Fletchling

Its Korean name is 화살꼬빈 Hwasal'kkobin. -- Nick15 (talk) 17:48, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

  • 화살 hwasal means "arrow"
  • kko is likely from 꼬마 kkoma meaning "little thing", "small child", etc
  • bin is likely from "robin" -- Nick15 (talk) 19:09, 11 July 2013 (UTC)