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::::Dr. Fuji is mentioned on a single text box in the games, so he wouldn't be notable by himself. However, I guess since the Japanese names are the same, if we assume the anime and game characters are the same Dr. Fuji (but not the same as Mr. Fuji) then the page should stay as "Dr. Fuji". However, especially after Origins, I don't think we should treat Dr. and Mr. as separate characters anyway. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:53, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
::::Dr. Fuji is mentioned on a single text box in the games, so he wouldn't be notable by himself. However, I guess since the Japanese names are the same, if we assume the anime and game characters are the same Dr. Fuji (but not the same as Mr. Fuji) then the page should stay as "Dr. Fuji". However, especially after Origins, I don't think we should treat Dr. and Mr. as separate characters anyway. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:53, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
:::::It does seem fairly silly to me to treat the anime Dr. Fuji separate from the game Dr. Fuji or the game Dr. Fuji separate from the game(/anime) Mr. Fuji. Especially when it leads to this kind of confusion. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:07, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
:::::It does seem fairly silly to me to treat the anime Dr. Fuji separate from the game Dr. Fuji or the game Dr. Fuji separate from the game(/anime) Mr. Fuji. Especially when it leads to this kind of confusion. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:07, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
:Just to confirm, would you move the Pokémon Origins section with this article or would you split the article into a Professor John Smith article and a Dr. Fuji article due to Pokémon Origins being based on the games?  I ask as I do not think the Anime should take information that is based on the Games.  --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:46, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

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In the games

Wasn't there a picture on the wall of Cinnabar Island's lab in the games that said it was "of the lab's founder, Dr. Fuji?" Did it refer to the Mr. Fuji of the games? Happy Mask Man 23:31, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Unknown. - 振霖T 01:16, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, Mr. Fuji's article in that magazine is found in Cinnibar Island, and he was Blaine's friend, and Blaine lived on Cinnibar Island, and there's a lab created by Dr. Fuji on Cinnibar Island, so I'd say that Dr. Fuji lived in Cinnibar Mansion, created Mewtwo, and, after his home was destroyed by the angry Psychic mutant, realized that...I dunno, that he oughta be nicer to Pokémon? and created a home for orphaned and abandoned Pokémon in Lavender and became Mr. Fuji. Everything points to it, after all. And it would explain why there's a key to Cinnibar Gym in Pokémon Mansion - Fuji was a friend of Blaine's, so of course he had a key to Blaine's Gym. - Jonah 16:30, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Spr FRLG Mr Fuji.png

All the stress made him go bald, haha. TESH TALK 18:30, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Dead?

I know the lab he was in blowed up and logically Fuji should have died, but is there any canon proof that Fuji actually died?DarkArcz 13:55, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

No its just assumed he did. Of course, its entirely possible that he survived an went on to live a quiter life in Lavender town as the Mr Fuji we know from the games. Psychologically this is a very logical connection as, if Dr Fuji (from the anime) and Mr Fuji (from the games) were the same person (the latter being slightly older) then it would explain a lot about Mr Fuji. Firstly, it would suggest that the reason he loks after so many abandoned pokemon is because he is trying to show that he is/become more compassionate towards pokemon in order to redeem himself or how he treated Mewtwo (which led to so many deaths. It would also explain why he defended the Mother Marowak so fiercely - ain order to try an compensate for the loss of his daughter - this also applies to why he cares for so many pokemon. Also, in Fr/Lg/R/B/Y, if one goes to he Cinnabar Lab, they will be able to see a photograph showing Mr. Fuji asa professor there, I believe. There is also a lot of information in the Mr Fuji article which points to Dr Fuji and Mr Fuji being the same person. For example, it is known that Mr fuji is not a native of Lavender town. Also, In Pokémon Emerald there are a series of messages left at Faraway Island where a wild Mew can be found. The messages warn that only someone pure of heart will see Mew. The author's name is smudged, but "-ji" is still readable in the Japanese version. It's possible that Mr. Fuji left the message, as a scientist who possibly worked on cloning Mew, he would have needed to collect Mew DNA.

Thereofre I feel that it might be a good idea to have the Mr fuji article combined with this one, since they are probably the same person given all the evidence. Anyone else think this is a good idea too? Wikid 23:26, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

It seems like the trivia is way off here, then - there it states that Dr. Fuji is killed on-screen, yet from this discussion it's obvious that at the very minimum it's off-screen, or even ambiguous. The trivia should be fixed, methinks. Anaphysik 08:02, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

English voice

There is an "Eric Grossfeld" in the credits who is only seen in this and Spell of the Unown. I think Addie Blaustein being Fuji's actor is a mistake regarding his appearance in Mewtwo Strikes Back, especially with no other human characters left that Grossfeld can possibly be. Additionally, Fuji and Mewtwo (Young) in Mewtwo's Origin both more greatly resemble Stuart's body of work than Blaustein's. Rosebr10 (talk) 23:43, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

As you've been told repeatedly, editing voice actors requires a source, not just idle speculation. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 10:03, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

English name

Currently, the following trivia point is on the article:

  • In the novelization of the first movie, he was given the name of "Professor John Smith".

To my knowledge, he has never been called "Dr. Fuji" in English. If I am correct, and he is actually called "Professor John Smith" in the novelization, I think this page should be moved. Also, there are two English books based on the first movie: Mewtwo Strikes Back and Pokémon the First Movie (I'm assuming it's the first one though). However, I would like someone to check before we go ahead and do anything with this page. --SnorlaxMonster 11:57, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

If you walk in the door of the Cinnabar Pokemon Lab in Pokemon Red or FireRed, there's a picture directly in front of the door that says "A photo of the LAB's founder, DR.FUJI!" ("...DR. FUJI?!" in FireRed). Tiddlywinks (talk) 12:16, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
I'm aware, but that's the character in the game. Since we treat Mr. Fuji and Dr. Fuji as separate characters, that would be referring to the game character Mr. Fuji, not the anime one Dr. Fuji. --SnorlaxMonster 12:32, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
What? How do you go from "we treat Mr. Fuji and Dr. Fuji as separate characters" to "[the Dr. Fuji referred to in-game] would be referring to the game character Mr. Fuji"? Currently, neither article avows a firm connection between Mr. and Dr. Fuji, only a possible connection. So if the games refer to a "Dr. Fuji", unless you can concretely connect him to Mr. Fuji and roll that person into Mr. Fuji's article, then there must (afaik) be a Dr. Fuji page, for the game character at least, even if you want to create a "Dr. John Smith" page for the scientist in the anime. But you can't just move it if you can't show the game's Mr. and Dr. Fuji are the same. Tiddlywinks (talk) 12:46, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
Dr. Fuji is mentioned on a single text box in the games, so he wouldn't be notable by himself. However, I guess since the Japanese names are the same, if we assume the anime and game characters are the same Dr. Fuji (but not the same as Mr. Fuji) then the page should stay as "Dr. Fuji". However, especially after Origins, I don't think we should treat Dr. and Mr. as separate characters anyway. --SnorlaxMonster 12:53, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
It does seem fairly silly to me to treat the anime Dr. Fuji separate from the game Dr. Fuji or the game Dr. Fuji separate from the game(/anime) Mr. Fuji. Especially when it leads to this kind of confusion. Tiddlywinks (talk) 13:07, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
Just to confirm, would you move the Pokémon Origins section with this article or would you split the article into a Professor John Smith article and a Dr. Fuji article due to Pokémon Origins being based on the games? I ask as I do not think the Anime should take information that is based on the Games. --Super goku (talk) 07:46, 27 January 2014 (UTC)