Talk:Decidueye (Pokémon)

Name origin

Decidueye comes from deciduous and eye.Ashitic (talk) 13:36, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

It also likely draws inspiration from the term "deadeye" used in reference an expert marksman. ~Destruction on Wings~ (talk) 14:53, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

To expand upon this its Japanese name is ジュナイパー, or Junaipaa. Probably draws from jukai (abundant leafage) and sniper, though I wonder what it'll be officially romanized to since Juniper is literally the name of a type of plant. --TheMaskedMeowth (talk) 15:00, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

To further expand, I think the inspiration for Decidueye's questionable typing lies in its name and appearance. Its cloak is brown, like a dead leaf, and "deciduous" refers to leaves that fall from shrubs and trees when they've matured and died (after which they become brown). The Ghost-typing (in place of the Flying-type) is a reference to dead leaves. Just thought I'd share in case anyone was confused. BNK^Talk 16:57, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Funny thing about the "deadeye" inspiration, I thought it was more "hawkeye". That's what I get for being into comic books too much. I guess either works, when you think about it. ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 20:19, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Biology

"Decidueye is an avian Pokemon closely resembling an owl. Its most prominent feature is a green, leafy hood that covers its head and shoulders. A pale cream-colored feather with an orange base extends from the top of the hood. Beneath this cowl, its head is black with a hooked beak and a pale chin, and it has orange, spectacle-like markings on its face. Its large eyes have golden-brown irises and red pupils. The hood also features a four-pointed, orange leaf below the chin and two leaf-tipped vines that act as drawstrings. Decidueye can use one of these vines as a bowstring to launch arrow quills. The arrows are stored in its wings, which are large and light brown with whitish spots on the uppersides. The ends of the wings have three pale-tipped feathers which act as fingers, allowing it to grasp the bowstring and nock arrows to attack. The tail consists of three leaves growing from its back. The body is cream-colored with fluffy feathers on the breast and long, powerful legs that are fully feathered. The feet have four sharp talons in a zygodactyl configuration, with two toes forward and two back.

This Pokemon is able to completely mask its presence as it moves around. When it finds an opening, it can draw, nock, and fire an arrow quill in as little as a tenth of a second. The arrows fly with astounding speed and amazing precision, piercing targets from over a half-mile away. Skilled Decidueye are capable of launching curved trick shots, attacking with arrows that soar skyward and drill down from above, striking multiple targets. Although it usually acts very cool, unexpected situations like surprise attacks can leave it terribly flustered." ~Destruction on Wings~ (talk) 14:53, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Decidueye's Weight

Decidueye is now the lightest final starter evolution. It takes this place from Delphox. Srushj11 (talk) 20:07, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Origin

Although it's currently listed as possibly being inspired by an archer and a barn owl, might it instead be based off a pueo? Pueo are owls only found in Hawaii and are notable for having a white ring around their dark faces, resembling a hood. They have a notable significance in traditional Hawaiian culture, and is one of the forms of the god Kane. Mimi (talk) 23:47, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

That could be a possibility, though there have been plenty of starters that are based on animals that arguably aren't found in the country/part of the world their region is based off of let alone many Pokémon introduced in a region that isn't based on their real world habitat. If anything, I would think that the possibility that Decidueye is based on a pueo would go along side the barn owl bit. But that's just me. Also one can fit the pueo inspiration into its Ghost typing, since the pueo is associated with the Hawaiian spirits known as aumakua. But then again that might be something that was more meant for the Guardian deities like Tapu Koko----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 00:03, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Another idea, might be crazy, stilt-owl, they are an extinct owl from Hawaii. Though Decidueye is a Ghost type, not Rock. But like I said, just a crazy idea to add to all this. Take it how you will. ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 01:21, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

No one has any idea what stilt-owls ever looked like, really. But Rowlet's family looks pretty well like a barn owl. If your only connections are "They're owls and they're from Hawaii"...consider looking harder (or just forever nursing the theory in your heart of hearts =P ). Tiddlywinks (talk) 01:37, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

No, I see no reason not to mention stilt-owls. Decidueye lacks a barn owl's very distinctive face. There's no indication in either the name or the lore that it's specifically a barn owl. It seems to be a mix of a couple of different owl species, or no owl in particular, as opposed to one specific species. Crystal Talian 01:59, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Heh. Hey, as I said, it was just a crazy idea I thought I'd add to Mimi's pueo theory. *shrugs* ;) As far as I'm concerned at the moment, Decidueye is an archer-owl that may or maynot tie into some sort of Hawaiian lore. That last part is just a self-justification on its typing and is basically a "WIP", as I'll just wait and see what else happens. ;) If there are any "dots" that will be connected or the like, then "cool-beans". ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 02:50, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

I'm seeing rumors crop up on Twitter that Decidueye is based on the wp:stilt-owl, an ancient owl that was native to Hawaii, but went extinct some time between Hawaii's initial colonization by what are now native Hawaiians and the arrival of Europeans. They are only known today from fossil record. --Macsen (talk) 13:36, 28 October 2016 (UTC)