Talk:DP086

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win

guess Ash wins since they leave the city next ep.--Davidaipom 20:17, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

I doubt Ash even met Fantina in this episode. Usually all the episodes were Ash fights someone are "(blah blah) Gym! VS. (blah blah blah)!!" They probably went there and Fantina didn't come back yet so they are moving on. The details given don't even hint a gym battle. --ケンジガール 01:18, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Although the anime is different then the game, in the games you go through Hearthome to Celestic and back after you get the HM for Surf from Cynthia's grandmother. So they might follow that route and then go back to Hearthome for Ash's badge and on to Canalave.PsychicRider 01:22, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Jump kick

It looks like lopunny and buneary use jump kick in this episode. PL12 14:34, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Ending?

For the one I watched, it wasnt Poka Poka, it was the original. same with last week. Mooites 00:17, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Dude.

Is Piplup hot for Buneary?! TTEchidna 05:52, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, both Piplup and Buneary are in the Ground egg group. I don't know how Buneary would handle being caught in a triangle with Piplup and Pikachu.
Then again, I don't know how a certain group of fans would react upon hearing evidence of Dawn's Piplup possibly being male when they believe the DP061 outfits were clear evidence of it being female. This same group thinks the same of Pachirisu, clearly ignoring its male-length head stripe. At the rate we're going, odds are we're probably going to get either a gender confirmation (ala Buneary and Ambipom) or conflicting evidence (ala Piplup and Pachirisu) on Swinub sooner or later...--Shiningpikablu252 06:17, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Countdown?

Nothing? MathijsP 12:01, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Huh? TTEchidna 19:25, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Toxicroak

I guess Saturn's Toxicroak isn't shiny. Dean

How do you know THAT Toxicroak wasn't shiny as well? I'm Missingno. Master, and I approve this message. 18:14, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Hopefully they will make an episode with many Toxicroak so we can be 100% certain. I don't see that happening though... ~$aturn¥oshi THE VOICES 18:22, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
For all we know, Saturn could have lent his Toxicroak for the collection. For all we know, that rocker borrowed the Toxicroak from Saturn.
Alternately, it could just mean that Toxicroak is probably the most common alternate-coloration in the anime world (trust me, the in-episode evidence for DP069 points to Saturn's Toxicroak indeed being of alternate-coloration, right down to having a special emergence effect; the ones who say it is for sure not cite how a normal-colored Noctowl appeared on the Pokédex when Ash scanned the alternate-colored one, when Ash never scanned the alternate-colored one). Trust me, if Brock's Croagunk evolves, that'll prove Saturn's Toxicroak is of alternate-coloration--the only non-alternate-coloration to evolve into an alternate-coloration happened due to Team Rocket interference.
Regardless, odds are people will continue defending their stance on Toxicroak. For all we know, the DP086 Toxicroak could also be a coloring error like the DP076 preview Snorlax. --Shiningpikablu252 18:33, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
I dont get it. In the Sinnoh Pokémon handbook that my friend has it has all the Sinnoh Pokémon as they would be in the anime. Toxicroak was the same color as Saturn's and this one. Mooites 01:27, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

"For all we know, Saturn could have lent his Toxicroak for the collection. For all we know, that rocker borrowed the Toxicroak from Saturn."

That has to be the lamest idea yet. So basically what people are saying is that until a third Toxicroak appears, we are still going to assume it is shiny?

----HoennMaster 03:40, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Face facts. The writers obviously screwed up the anime's Toxicroaks and made them all shiny. It's the Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links03:45 12 Jul 2008
Actually, theres been a few coloration errors. a lot of pokemon are lighter or darker than there sprites. this is probably just a coincidence that the anime colors are the same as the shiny ones. Mooites 04:15, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Guys, should the fact that Fantina leaving the gym despite that kind of behavior would lead to it being shut down be mentioned in the Error's section?

I'm asking because I tried it before, and yet Kenji-girl felt that I shouldn't just because "it MIGHT have different rules". I tried to tell her that if it really had different rules, then hoenn and Johto wouldn't have the PIA inspecting the gyms, and Mr. Goodshow wouldn't be hosting them, yet she still insists. I tried to do it, but she wouldn't let me. I mean, the rules for the OI are most certainly different (half of the gym leaders requirements for gaining the badge actually DID involve battling, not counting drake), but the rules for the Gym battles in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh were still similar. can you settle this for us? I really feel that it should be noted. Weedle Mchairybug 13:37, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

You can't prove that the rules are the same in Sinnoh, so no its not an error. If you want to mention it in trivia, that's fine. --ケンジガール 20:39, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Even if I can't prove that the rules are the same in Sinnoh, you ALSO can't prove that they aren't the same. Actually, I have evidence that would at LEAST give it solid grounds. First off, PIA agent Joy mentioned to Misty that she is going to inspect Hoenn in [H002|Cerulean Blue]], Now, since the Hoenn region is miles away from the Kanto-net, then it gives some credence that Sinnoh would ALSO have these same rules.
Also, for the second piece of evidence, Mr. Goodshow was hosting the leagues in Kanto, Johto, and Hoenn. Since he is the guy who runs and operates the Pokemon League, he also runs the PIA, which regulates Gyms to see if they are worthy of being Gyms at least, and at most will have the power to actually wipe them clean off the map.
Lastly, the Maylene battle referenced a concept of Gym leaders that was mentioned in Season 1, and mentioned by Whittney in Johto. That concept is that the Gym leader has the authority to determine if a challenger is worthy of a badge, if not by winning against them, then at least by showing admirable qualities that shows they earned it.
If you still wish to think that they don't have the same rules, fine. But I've given ample amount of evidence about it that at least makes it sway towards that direction. Weedle Mchairybug 20:53, 28 July 2008 (UTC)