Talk:Cipher

Deep Colosseum

I very much doubt that Cipher built it. I recall someone saying it was simply a Colosseum used by the miners that worked that far down as form of entertainment. Cheesedude 00:13, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Folly and Trudly

Can they really be classified as members of Cipher? They were Miror B.'s Peons, which to me means hired henchmen, not full blown Cipher members. It dosen't seem to me that they were in on the overall scheme, just Miror B.'s part of it. Cheesedude 22:07, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Trudly and Folly

Hmm...I haven't beat Colosseum. You can battle them after Colosseum, right? Are they still called Miror B. Peons or are they called Cipher peons? Either way, I don't see any other place to put them. There's a place for Snagem members and for Cipher members, but not for Miror B. Peons. And they're working for a Cipher admin, so that basically counts as Cipher. Speaking of which, someone really needs to make pages for them.

Jonah April 16 2007

Good points. I'll have the pages up shortly. I made Skrub's, Agrev's and Biden's pages yesterday. They are called Miror B Peon's the whole game with the exception of Folly being called "Shady Guy" in the first battle with him.

What about the female peons, Reath and Ferma? Cheesedude 23:35, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I've added links to their pages (Which don't exist yet). Trudly and Folly also appeared in XD. Jonah April 16 2007

Alright, I'll get to it, then. Cheesedude 23:57, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Umm...I'd like to know...what button put the "contents" table on a page? I guess I'll do Exol, the Hexagon brothers, and Naps. Jonah April 16th 2007

I haven't the slightest idea. Please do though, I've not played XD so I sure can't make their pages. Cheesedude 00:16, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Exol

Was the only Cipher Commander in XD? Also, someone added Exol to the name box with the other members, but Skrub or the others. Cheesedude 17:14, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

He was the only commander, yes.

Exol was added to the Cipher template, was he? IT'S MY FAULT. (Search for Template:Cipher and edit it if you want to add Skrub.)

Alright, thanks for that. I added Skrub and the 4 Miror B. Peons.

I can't think of any other Cipher members that would be important enough to add. Most of the peons appear once and then pop in for one rematch after beating the game....

I'm about to beat another playthrough. I've been recording the Pokémon every Shadow trainer has in all the battles with them. I'll have the complete lists for Ferma, Reath and any others we decide to put it. Cheesedude 22:39, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Expansion of Cipher

Alright. I've completed by playthrough. I have complete teams for each and every trainer that had a Shadow Pokémon and how their teams evolve in rematches.

The most notable ones are the Mystery Troops - Bluno, Verde and Rosso.

The rest of the Cipher Peons are rather unotable but creating a bulk article for them could be an idea.

I think Cail deserves his own article as well.

Most of the other Shadow Trainers are unotable....

So how should we proceed, if we do? Cheesedude 23:56, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

What about that guy who cosplays you with the Togetic? I never really understood what he was about, but if he's dressing up as you, I assume it must mean something significant. Does he deserve a page? Jonah 10:00, April 24th, 2007 (EST)