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:: I hope you don't mind me saying this, but it is possible that a year hasn't passed at all. Technically, a year is the amount of time in which the planet takes to revolve the Sun. However, there is no evidence within the series that the planet is the same Earth as the Earth of our solar system. ([[User:Holonboy|Holonboy]] 18:48, 25 November 2010 (UTC))
:: I hope you don't mind me saying this, but it is possible that a year hasn't passed at all. Technically, a year is the amount of time in which the planet takes to revolve the Sun. However, there is no evidence within the series that the planet is the same Earth as the Earth of our solar system. ([[User:Holonboy|Holonboy]] 18:48, 25 November 2010 (UTC))
:::It was confirmed a [[PK07|long time ago]] that more than a year has passed. Characters don't age it's simple as that. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 19:33, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
:::It was confirmed a [[PK07|long time ago]] that more than a year has passed. Characters don't age it's simple as that. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 19:33, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
But what about how the Pokemon leagues are held once a year and Ash has been to 4, not counting the Orange League or the Battle Frontier? {{unsigned|Dragonace}}.
:Yeah, for each region. Who said they are all held at the exact same time of the year? Anyway, it's still a cartoon and does not have to apply to the laws of the universe. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 01:09, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
::On that note, if there is any "The Simpsons" fans out there, they know that Bart Simpson has had NUMEROUS school years and yet he is still the same age. It happens in "most" cartoons. Just accept it. - <span style="background:#96EAFF;border: 1px solid#0000FF">'''[[User:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#FF0000">Vhayes</b>]][[User talk:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#00027F">1992</b>]]'''</span> 01:32, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
== Shiki...Deerling ==
Does the Deerling form indicate that these episodes take place in Unova's springtime?--[[User:Derenol232|Derenol232]] 03:07, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
:Yes, I suppose it does.  <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 03:14, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
::Just to clarify, I said ''Unova's'' springtime to make any evidence of speculation very very minute, taking hemispheres into consideration--[[User:Derenol232|Derenol232]] 03:20, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
So could we make a similarity with the fact that Kanto trainers are said to start their journeys in April, which is durring Spring here, but not in the games? [[User:NotSteve|NotSteve]] 01:16, 14 February 2011 (UTC) 20:15, 13 February 2011
== Who's that Pokémon? ==
Where do I insert what the Who's That Pokémon thing, in trivia or before? [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 17:34, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
:It's already on the page in the correct place. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 17:40, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
:: Sorry, didn't see it. [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 18:38, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
== Anime physics ==
[[Trip]]'s {{TP|Trip|Snivy|Janovy}} was able to defeat Ash's {{AP|Pikachu}} without any problems despite Pikachu being in a higher level. The battle that happened can be a concept of anime physics as the levels of Pokémon have been ignored. For example, a Lv. 10 Tentacool defeating a Lv. 60 Gible without any problems fits the situation. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 19:05, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
:Games =/= Anime --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 21:25, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
::When I mentioned about Pikachu being at a higher level, I was referring to the fact that it has been trained for a very long time compared to Snivy being recently obtained and yet, Snivy was able to receive its first win easily. There had to be some sort of connection. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 00:22, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
::: Here's something that Nurse Joy said in ''[[EP097|Tracey Gets Bugged]]'': Sometimes speed and power can overcome even the most experienced Pokémon. Not to mention Pikachu wasn't right at the time. It was caught off guard is what happened. And this isn't even the first time this has happened to Pikachu. Remember when it battled Paul's Elekid? I'm sure that wasn't as experienced as Pikachu and yet the battle ended in a draw. The anime likes to make Ash lose to a new rival as a plot device. It's as simple as that. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 00:30, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
::::Not only Pikachu was caught off guard, it was in horrible condition as it was starting to get very tired, giving Snivy room to attack. The anime increases the suspense every time Ash loses to the new rival even making the league battle between them very intense, not only a plot device was given.  [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 02:35, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
== guidebook language ==
I put an error on the page about the fact that Ash's (or Oak's) Unova guidebook is in Japanese, but it was [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=BW001&action=historysubmit&diff=1356968&oldid=1356965 quickly reverted]. I uploaded a picture of the guidebook in question: [[a:File:UnovaGuidebookDub.png]]. That's not English, surely!! I don't know a lot of Japanese, but the characters look similar to Japanese to me? [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 23:54, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:It's a made up language. Not Japanese or English. [[Typhlosion|<span style="color:#C00;"><sup>★</sup></span>]][[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]][[Flygon|<span style="color:#C00;"><sup>★</sup></span>]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]] 23:56, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
== Starter Pokémon ==
Not sure, but was this the first time the term "starter Pokémon" was used officially? At least in the anime? From what I can remember, starter Pokémon was mainly a fanon term. In the anime, I only seem to remember them being called "first Pokémon" or "partner Pokémon", but not starter Pokémon. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 03:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
== Beta episode ==
I was watching the preview of BW001 in the final episode of Diamond and Pearl and I noticed that the battle of Trip and Ash happens differently from episode itself.
For example, both fighting in different locations in the episode they fight in a normal kind of forest is that the preview was on location in the city.
It deserves to be mentioned somewhere?
One example:
'''Preview'''
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/515/shot0629.png
'''Normal Episode'''
http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/9044/shot1739.png
--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] 01:58 - 30 January 2012 (UTC)
== No italics on the word "still", please. ==
In the trivia about Satoshi being 10. That indicates bias from the user who wrote that. {{unsigned|PowerfulStarmie}}
== Music from the games ==
A remixed version of the music from Accumula Town (when the plane lands in Unova) and the music from Routes 6, 7, 8 and 9 (on their way to Juniper's lab) is used (in the English dub at least). I don't know what other music pieces are used and whether this is worth mentioning in the Trivia. It seems stuff like this has been mentioned in previous episodes, for example, in DP001. [[User:Takkupanda|Takkupanda]] ([[User talk:Takkupanda|talk]]) 07:22, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 07:22, 21 November 2013

I think we shoudnt put Iris in! we dont know if she appears, especially because she has an episode entiteled for her self! - unsigned comment from Eneci (talkcontribs)
True, I also think Dento shouldn't be there until it's confirmed he will appear. Speculation and all.. Ive edited it --samm -- 20:50, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Iris Confirmed we saw her in the preview! Eneci 10:31, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
this is a 1 hour episode... Ataro 10:33, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
she is seen looking up at the storm clouds caused by Zekrom. I'd say thats confirmed that she's in this episode then. shokuwarrior 13:03, 9 September 2010 (GMT)

Zekrom Debut

It says that Zekrom will debut in the episode. But the title says "Zekrom's Shadow". Shadow. That doesn't neccesarily mean that it will appear. Pawsrent 02:00, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Still, we don't know for sure and it will stay this way until the episode airs. If it appears a la the Lake Guardians we will make it look similar to their debuts. --HoennMaster 02:44, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Regarding this

I don't believe the user who posted that was complaining about Pikachu being in the series. I think he was pointing out that something bad had happened to Pikachu every time Ash visited a new region. (Getting sick, getting lost, etc.)--Cold (talk) 20:27, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Just Updated the Synopsis

But it's still pretty bad. I hope someone else would work on it. (Holonboy 00:34, 26 October 2010 (UTC))

Age trivia

It says in the trivia about the anniversary of Ash and Pikachu. Judging from that its safe to say Ash has had at least two birthdays: First was around the time of the Indigo League as he got his Earth Badge exactly 1year after starting his journey according to the narration. Second would be the Anniversary of him and Pikachu. Just thought you lot should know. --Lycos Ex Mortis 02:51, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Actually make that 3 birthdays by the episode Pikachu and Pichu. According to his page his date of birth was 10years 10months and 10days before his journey started. So by the time he competed in the Indigo League he would have had 2 birthdays: one being two months after the start of his journey. The second about the time the Indigo League tournament started/ended. --Lycos Ex Mortis 02:54, 9 November 2010 (UTC)


It's all possible but it is only a cartoon. Don't take it too seriously. :/ There have been worse fumbles and things that don't make much sense in the series. Jo The Marten 02:56, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
I know and I'm not taking it too seriously. I'm just saying its trivia I figure you guys would like to know to put on a page somewhere --Lycos Ex Mortis 03:35, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Possibly. I'll let someone with more experience decide. Sorry for the misunderstanding, I thought you were arguing with the fact that he's still 10 after 3 possible years. :P Cheers. Jo The Marten 03:40, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
I hope you don't mind me saying this, but it is possible that a year hasn't passed at all. Technically, a year is the amount of time in which the planet takes to revolve the Sun. However, there is no evidence within the series that the planet is the same Earth as the Earth of our solar system. (Holonboy 18:48, 25 November 2010 (UTC))
It was confirmed a long time ago that more than a year has passed. Characters don't age it's simple as that. --HoennMaster 19:33, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

But what about how the Pokemon leagues are held once a year and Ash has been to 4, not counting the Orange League or the Battle Frontier? - unsigned comment from Dragonace (talkcontribs) .

Yeah, for each region. Who said they are all held at the exact same time of the year? Anyway, it's still a cartoon and does not have to apply to the laws of the universe. --ケンジガール 01:09, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
On that note, if there is any "The Simpsons" fans out there, they know that Bart Simpson has had NUMEROUS school years and yet he is still the same age. It happens in "most" cartoons. Just accept it. - Vhayes1992 01:32, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Shiki...Deerling

Does the Deerling form indicate that these episodes take place in Unova's springtime?--Derenol232 03:07, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I suppose it does. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talkcontribs) 03:14, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Just to clarify, I said Unova's springtime to make any evidence of speculation very very minute, taking hemispheres into consideration--Derenol232 03:20, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

So could we make a similarity with the fact that Kanto trainers are said to start their journeys in April, which is durring Spring here, but not in the games? NotSteve 01:16, 14 February 2011 (UTC) 20:15, 13 February 2011

Who's that Pokémon?

Where do I insert what the Who's That Pokémon thing, in trivia or before? Gliscorguy54 17:34, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

It's already on the page in the correct place. --HoennMaster 17:40, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, didn't see it. Gliscorguy54 18:38, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Anime physics

Trip's Snivy was able to defeat Ash's Pikachu without any problems despite Pikachu being in a higher level. The battle that happened can be a concept of anime physics as the levels of Pokémon have been ignored. For example, a Lv. 10 Tentacool defeating a Lv. 60 Gible without any problems fits the situation. PattyMan 19:05, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Games =/= Anime --ケンジガール 21:25, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
When I mentioned about Pikachu being at a higher level, I was referring to the fact that it has been trained for a very long time compared to Snivy being recently obtained and yet, Snivy was able to receive its first win easily. There had to be some sort of connection. PattyMan 00:22, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Here's something that Nurse Joy said in Tracey Gets Bugged: Sometimes speed and power can overcome even the most experienced Pokémon. Not to mention Pikachu wasn't right at the time. It was caught off guard is what happened. And this isn't even the first time this has happened to Pikachu. Remember when it battled Paul's Elekid? I'm sure that wasn't as experienced as Pikachu and yet the battle ended in a draw. The anime likes to make Ash lose to a new rival as a plot device. It's as simple as that. --ケンジガール 00:30, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Not only Pikachu was caught off guard, it was in horrible condition as it was starting to get very tired, giving Snivy room to attack. The anime increases the suspense every time Ash loses to the new rival even making the league battle between them very intense, not only a plot device was given. PattyMan 02:35, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

guidebook language

I put an error on the page about the fact that Ash's (or Oak's) Unova guidebook is in Japanese, but it was quickly reverted. I uploaded a picture of the guidebook in question: a:File:UnovaGuidebookDub.png. That's not English, surely!! I don't know a lot of Japanese, but the characters look similar to Japanese to me? Kidburla 23:54, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

It's a made up language. Not Japanese or English. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 23:56, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Starter Pokémon

Not sure, but was this the first time the term "starter Pokémon" was used officially? At least in the anime? From what I can remember, starter Pokémon was mainly a fanon term. In the anime, I only seem to remember them being called "first Pokémon" or "partner Pokémon", but not starter Pokémon. --ケンジガール 03:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


Beta episode

I was watching the preview of BW001 in the final episode of Diamond and Pearl and I noticed that the battle of Trip and Ash happens differently from episode itself.

For example, both fighting in different locations in the episode they fight in a normal kind of forest is that the preview was on location in the city. It deserves to be mentioned somewhere?

One example:

Preview

shot0629.png

Normal Episode

shot1739.png

--Hikaru Wazana 01:58 - 30 January 2012 (UTC)

No italics on the word "still", please.

In the trivia about Satoshi being 10. That indicates bias from the user who wrote that. - unsigned comment from PowerfulStarmie (talkcontribs)

Music from the games

A remixed version of the music from Accumula Town (when the plane lands in Unova) and the music from Routes 6, 7, 8 and 9 (on their way to Juniper's lab) is used (in the English dub at least). I don't know what other music pieces are used and whether this is worth mentioning in the Trivia. It seems stuff like this has been mentioned in previous episodes, for example, in DP001. Takkupanda (talk) 07:22, 21 November 2013 (UTC)