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I've brought this up before about the horrid border coloration, but it has still stayed in place. I have an idea, in that we could colour it white and blue, like his clothing. It would look so much nicer. Torngentleman2 10:03, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

That would probably be good. Why the box colors are those of Pikachu is quite puzzling. --jda95 10:06, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
I think they are the colors of the Red and Yellow games; because Ash is based on Red and Yellow was based on the anime.
PS: Torngentleman2, you are not allowed to have images in your signature. --ケンジガール 10:12, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Now that I'm looking at it, that would look much nicer. --Nathan2055talk 15:58, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Thoughts? I personally like example 2. --ケンジガール 23:45, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
I love Example 3. --HoennMaster 00:39, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Now for me it's a close call between number 2 & number 4, I think the yellow is good to have, honestly though, I like them all more than the current colours Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 01:01, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Example 2 and 4 are my choices. I don't care which one as long as there is some yellow in there. It's not that important that we change the colors, but I do agree that the current borders are a bad combination of colors.--Alex726(TALK) 02:42, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
I too felt there should be yellow in there. Having white and blue only sort of implies he's a Water and Normal-type Trainer to me... Which is why I still like 2. --ケンジガール 04:25, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
I definately think Example 2 is better than Example 4, but my personal favourite is Example 1, as Pikachu is in the image, so he's not unrepresented. Torngentleman2 16:52, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
I've thought long and hard, I have decided I like the yellow on example 2 best Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 22:00, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
I think this looks better if you replace the "normal" with "white"--Burgundy 23:47, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk page note

I don't think we need the "ALL CAPS" note on the top of this page. Wouldn't it be better leaving it as a hidden note or in some other format, as it doesn't seem to come up very often in the archives?--Tim Thomason 19:07, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

We do. It comes up all the time but a lot of the edits get reverted. Check the history. --ZestyCactus 19:13, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

'As of BW001'

I think we should get rid of that note next to his age. If he hasn't aged over all that time, he's never going to reach 11. So I think we should just list his age as 10 and nothing but, so it looks neater. Torngentleman2 14:44, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Well, there have been two times on where it was implied that Ash was 11, one was in EP063 (albeit being only present in the dub versions), and the special on where they celebrate the first anniversary since Ash and Pikachu first met, if I remembered which one it was, I'd link it. But yeah, the series have implied (whether on dub or not) that time has passed whether it actually happened or not. I guess that's why it's been pointed out. Masatoshitalk 15:12, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm going to say this again. Do not turn this into an age discussion. That's not what this was about. Violators will be dealt with. --ケンジガール 00:01, 28 April 2011 (UTC)


We most add that his counterpart in the pokemon adventures manga red is. Both have fight there rival in the final of the pokemon league and win. Both have a Pikachu. We most edit this.--Nazirbashir 08:11, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Just out of sheer curiosity...

Why was so much Trivia removed? I mean, that was a LOT of trivia, and I could see the reason for most of it being removed (out of date, etc.) but there is some of it that is still valid right (like the stuff about how he constructs his teams)? Just one person's opinion, and I am not staff or anything, so feel free to ignore or whatever, but I was just curious. --ジェダイの騎士デジタルテレビ 23:11, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

I think it was tooooo long, so someone shorten it so the page would load all right. That's just my guess. Truthseeker4449 19:05, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Oversized page

I got a message on the edit page saying that it reached the limit of over 32kb and needs to be broken into smaller sections. PattyMan 22:16, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

A lot of big pages say that. I don't believe it's a concern. Jellotalk 22:17, 2 June 2011 (UTC)


Come on, why is Pikachu in rotation too? -Billy4b2004 06:57, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

And we still have complaints? Geesh. Why are Snivy, Tepig, Oshawott, and Scraggy there despite never leaving Ash's team? These are the pokémon he is using in Unova, so they are all in one section. --HoennMaster 15:25, 5 June 2011 (UTC)


The Archeops from BW040 could potentially go in Ash's 'temporary' section, but I don't know whether or not it would be classed as being trained by Ash, or at least Ash in particular. What do you guys think? Torngentleman2 19:48, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Wait for the episode to air so we fully know the circumstances. —darklordtrom 23:47, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
The episode has airred, this user ment to say BW036, that's the Archeops he is reffering to Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 23:51, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
I think it's a bit different. With Cottonee, he actually trained it, and used it to battle against Iris and Cilan. Archen he only helped teach to fly, and he wasn't the only one. He was just the only one with a flying type (who would listen). But he never actually commanded it. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 23:55, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Agreed, if we counted this we'd have to add Swablu as well Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 23:58, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
I guess that sums up my confusion at why Archeops wasn't on the episode list :D —darklordtrom 00:10, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Thing is, while only once or twice, Ash did tell her what to do. Ash never commanded a move, but he did ask her do do things like fly towards Ash, or to jump. Torngentleman2 13:59, 19 June 2011 (UTC)


If we are counting Reshiram/Zekrom as under Dread's ownership, then shouldn't we do the same for Ash? Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 20:41, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

I haven't seen the movie. But movie characters =/= main characters. They are permitted to have Pokémon like that because that will be their only full appearance. Both Sam and Ash befriended Celebi equally yet Sam is the only one who has Celebi on his page. And since I didn't see the movie, I have no idea if Ash had as much influence over Reshiram/Zekrom as Dread Grangil did.
Unless Ash specifically gave Reshiram/Zekrom commands, then they're just like all of the other legendaries he's befriended and worked with. Ash has to have some sort of dominance over them and/or having an extremely close relationship like May and Manaphy rather than just going along for the ride. --ケンジガール 01:50, 17 July 2011 (UTC)


If some Pokémon Don't leave Ash, Why are they in rotation, Can't we just have With Ash and With Juniper and Keep updating it. ReaNintendo 20:42, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

We already had a HUGE debate over this. We can never be certain who Ash rotates as seen in BW036 were he had the usually "rotatee", Tranquill, and Roggenrola at the same time. Meaning he had to send either Snivy, Tepig, or Scraggy (not Oshawott because he was there too). A lot of times they don't reveal who Ash sent back when he withdrew another. It's best for it to stay like this. Updating it every week is troublesome and causes conflicts. --ケンジガール 20:53, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Ash's Gliscor

Hi. um. Shouldn't Gliscor should be in the section with Charizard and Squirtle instead of the "Status Unknown". I mean, Ash left Gliscor with the Air Battle Master and then he recalled Gliscor back for the Sinnoh League. And if Gliscor is not in Pf. Oak's lab, Gliscor should be back with the Air Battle Master.- unsigned comment from Mr. RPG (talkcontribs)

Everyone is being needlessly picky and saying that we don't have confirmation that Gliscor went back into training. I argued on Talk:Ash's Gliscor that on one of Charizard's reappearances it was not confirmed that it went back to the Valley until it appeared next, yet that appears not to be a problem. Nothing suggests that Torterra or any of the others were sent back to Oak's lab - it was presumed. Why shouldn't Gliscor be presumed as well? I support moving Gliscor but unfortunately I have so far ben ignored. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 01:31, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
You cannot compare what happens with Ash's party after he completes a journey to Gliscor. We know that they went to Oak's because that's what he always does.
Maybe he decided to keep Gliscor after it returned from McCann because its training was complete. Not like it had some special duty like Primeape, Squirtle, and Charizard. We can't assume things with Pokémon that are in training. So it's best to just say that its whereabouts are currently unknown (which means it's either with McCann or Oak). --ケンジガール 03:46, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
Not to mention Charizard always returns to the Charicific Valley, it's common knowledge. Even if it wasn't shown once, it's obvious that is where is goes. --HoennMaster 15:34, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

should this be there?

Should raticate be in the traded away section? He never even used it.--Supermon 18:18, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Are you seriously suggesting that the classification for "owned Pokémon" should be whether or not they participated in a battle? He owned Raticate, and then he traded it away for Butterfree. Very simple. LimeGreenCharizard 20:31, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
I agree with LGC. Where else would it go? Toon Ganondorf (t c) 22:47, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

How do we

how do we know that ash has thirty tauros? Did the show say so or did someone count or something?--Supermon 23:55, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

He captures thirty of them in EP035. It's an episode not shown in the dub due to excessive gun use by the Safari warden, though the Tauros make several other appearances and i think it's mentiones elsewhere that he specifically has 30. --ZestyCactus 23:58, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
EP065 confirms it. --HoennMaster 00:27, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Oh ya. I recently watched that episode so why didn't I think of that? whatever--Supermon 00:10, 9 December 2011 (UTC)


I know it's out tonight on cartoon network but do you think in his befriended section there should be Reshiram and Zekrom? or is that a 'cannon'? AquaMaster 17:01, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Please look a few sections above this one. --ケンジガール 01:46, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

snivy picture

Why was the Ash's snivy picture changed? - unsigned comment from Supermon (talkcontribs)

Because someone uploaded a new one. --ケンジガール 23:12, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Pikachu in Rotation?

OK, I know there has already been a big dispute over stuff like this, but I don't think it makes sense to say Pikachu is in rotation. Pikachu is ALWAYS with Ash in every episode, and Ash would need to transfer Pikachu via a Poké Ball, which Pikachu has not been in since the 1st episode. I think we can safely say that Pikachu is "on hand." サトシ 23:03, 27 December 2011 (UTC) (User:Satoshi101)

Pikachu was not on hand during the battle against Elesa, apparently. And the his pokeball have appeared in several episodes of the original series, including the Brock's debut.--Hikaru Wazana 23:11- 27 December 2011
No, Pikachu is on hand in Elsa's battle, it just sits out. And Pikachu's Pokéball only appeared in Pokemon-I Choose You!, The Chikorita Rescue, and Snow Way Out!. I don't know where you got your info but it's incorrect. サトシ 23:20, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
Ash calls Pikachu back during the battle against Brock, this is a classic scene of the episode. And you even contradicts himself when says that it is not seen since the first episode, but cites other two.--Hikaru Wazana 23:28- 27 December 2011
He tries to, but he isn't successful. And if he did, that would mean Pikachu's still on hand. You really need to get your facts straight. サトシ 23:41, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
He's there because it's a little silly just to create a special little section for just Pikachu while everyone else is in rotation. We are aware that he would never take Pikachu off of his team. It's just to avoid having to update it every week and making unneeded sections. And in rotation doesn't mean were trying to say he's going to send Pikachu to where ever. He was also never shown to have send Oshawott (among a few others) back either. --ケンジガール 03:53, 28 December 2011 (UTC)


I recently checked the page,it's protected.anybody know what happened?--Supermon 22:12, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Check the history of the page to see. There was an edit war yesterday. --Pokemaster97 22:16, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

That explains it.thanks Pokemaster.--Supermon 23:04, 28 December 2011 (UTC)


I have a trivia piece: Starting from the Advanced Generation series, a pattern has started. Ash has caught one starter in Hoenn, two in Sinnoh and all three again in Unova . It was taken off by a user named Ataro or something and I undid it ( sorry if you were an admin ) can someone tell me why? --Skarm (tAlk) 03:37, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

The edit summary said it was not really needed so that's why it was undone I'd imagine. --Pokemaster97 03:41, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Another Trivia piece if you don't mind......

Every time Ash battles and defeats a rival, he constantly loses to the next one in league tournaments, usually because his opponents are older, more experienced trainers with Pokémon that Ash has never seen or battled before.

Other than the Orange League, Ash has never won a league tournament.

Ash seems to catch less Pokémon when he is traveling with a new trainer. While traveling with May he caught 6 Pokémon, and while traveling with Dawn he caught 5 and obtained Buizel by trading with Dawn. While traveling with Misty he caught 18 Pokémon not counting Pikachu which he obtained by Professor Oak, and so far while traveling with Cilan and Iris he has caught 7 Pokémon and hatched Scraggy from an egg.

Clinton_Jai 14:23, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Not really notable to be honest. AquaMaster 14:26, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

3, 3, 1, 2, 3 isn't much of a pattern. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 22:08, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
18, 6, 5, 7 isn't much of a pattern either. None of the pieces of trivia suggested here seem to be notable in my opinion.--Alex726(TALK) 23:42, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
That piece of trivia looks very opinionated even if it happens. Secondly, it was copied off from the Pokémon wikia. PattyMan 00:16, 7 January 2012 (UTC)


In several episodes and movies it is shown that ash is a really good climber (in Pokemon4ever Misty and Brock comment that he "Climbs like a mankey." He's also been reffered to as a Primeape and an Aipom. Even in one of the first episodes of BW he climbs up a tree with little difficulty compared to Iris trying to catch up to Team Rocket to get Pikachu and Axew. Shouldnt we add this somewhere in the article? LuigiLuvr 00:47, 8 January 2012 (UTC)LuigiLover

I remember him being a good climber too. I agree. It should be included in Ash's article.--Alex726(TALK) 18:30, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for agreeing, I'm not sure of all the exact episodes and movies it was mentioned in. But I can find it out on [1] but it might take a while -.-'LuigiLuvr 01:23, 9 January 2012 (UTC)LuigiLuvr

Ah, I can help out with this. In the season 4 episode, "The Screen Actor's Guilt", Ash tells everyone that, when he was little, he climbed a lot of trees (I can't remember the exact line, you'll have to watch the episode to find out exactly what Ash says). And then, after saying this, he proceeds to climb a tree. Later in season 5, "Hatching A Plan", Ash climbs a tree to rescue Pikachu and Phanpy. =) --PokemonTrainerLisa 13:16, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!! I'll check those episodes and I'll read the descriptions on some others to see if they mention it. LuigiLuvr 16:39, June 1 2012 I added the it but only used 5 examples. I though that was better then adding all of them but if you decide they're are some more main ones feel free to add! LuigiLuvr 17:41, June 1 2012

Edit Request

Can one of the Mods change "Spirits Symbol" to "Spirit Symbol". --HoennMaster 04:40, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Kenji! --HoennMaster 08:37, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Actually, its the Spirits Symbol, as seen in the last 20 seconds here.--MisterE13 21:26, 27 January 2012 (UTC)


On James, page it says at trivia that Ash briefly had no Pokémon on hand. But is this is in AG001? --Station7 17:49, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes. Chowolun 02:18, 5 March 2012 (UTC) User:Lucario985


Shouldn't we put that Krokorok evolved from Sandile under Ash's pokemon?? I mean we did see it evolve on screen.RBK 05:18, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

It wasn't his at the time. That's why we don't have Primeape shown to have evolved.--ForceFire 05:29, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Corphish's Picture?

Did somebody do something to Corphish's picture? This is what I get in my browser instead of the pic: "Error creating thumbnail: convert: unable to open image `/mnt/bulbawiki-media/upload/3/32/Ash_Corphish.png': No such file or directory @ blob.c/OpenBlob/2480. convert: unable to open file `/mnt/bulbawiki-media/upload/3/32/Ash_Corphish.png' @ png.c/ReadPNGImage/2889. convert: missing an image filename `/tmp/transform_2d9f3bd-1.png' @ convert.c/ConvertImageCommand/2800." BTW, I am using Mozilla Firefox, if that matters any. --ジェダイナイトディーティーブイ 14:11, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Never mind, either somebody fixed it or it fixed itself? Thank you if someone did fix it, if not, I apologize for bringing it up. --ジェダイナイトディーティーブイ 14:51, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Current badge picture

So, I'm on the page and I'm looking through the page and see Ash has his 8th Unova gym badge. I want to see it up close and click on the picture to view it bigger. When I do this, it takes me to a picture of him with Pikachu, Brycen and Krokorok of him obtaining his 7th badge. But then I click on the picture to view it just by itself and it takes me to the picture of him and Pikachu holding up the 8th badge. Any particular reason it still shows Brycen giving him the 7th badge and not the picture of him with all 8? If so, how do we go about fixing the page? Just a heads up. --Dylki 22:21, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

It just takes a while to the Archive server to sync with the Bulbapedia server. Give it time and it'll change. There's nothing we can really do about it otherwise. Not a bug, just how it is. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 22:24, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Cool. I just found it quite odd but thanks for the information.--Dylki 22:28, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

This image...

Ash Pokemon with Oak.png ...Answer our questions about Ash's in training Pokémon and Gliscor's whereabouts. - unsigned comment from ‎Igor Castro Chucre (talkcontribs)

We're still not sure, because Primeape is there too, and we know for a fact Primeape is not at Oak's lab. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 18:56, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
Chances are they just came by for a visit, you know... Jyles (talk) 17:16, 14 July 2012 (UTC)


Can we have something about how in D/P he's super skilled, and in Black and White he's totally immature, and inexperienced? -- Pringles 23:40, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

He's still a skilled trainer when he reached Unova. Chomper4 (talk) 00:08, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

It seems that he isn't (he chucks a Poké Ball at a Pidove right off the bat, and does a ton of other stupid stuff). -- Pringles 00:09, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
He gets like that in almost every region. They turn Ash into an idiot to reflect the in-game thing of always starting a new adventure and having weak Pokémon etc. People might think it's foolish, but at the same time, the creators imagine the viewers are always a new generation of children, who don't know that you have to weaken a Pokémon first to catch it. So they hinder Ash's experience and intelligence to teach new viewers. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 00:11, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
At the beginning of Diamond and Pearl he didn't seems stupid to me. -- Pringles 00:17, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
The anime has a Trainr experience tier and whoever is the lowest has to be portrayed as the rookie. In both Advance and DP, Ash had friends that were less experienced than he was thus the part of the inexperienced rookie was taken off of him. But because Iris and Cilan have been Trainers longer than he has (in anime time) he's the one that needs to be portrayed as the rookie. But yeah, this isn't really something that needs to be mentioned. --ケンジガール 04:07, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

What about those holes?

During those battles in stadiums, his Pokémon sometimes crater the walls. Does he have to pay for it or what? I'd like to know. Jyles (talk) 17:13, 14 July 2012 (UTC)