Talk:Ash's Torterra

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Route 203?

How is this possible when: 1.) Buenary was caught a few episodes later on route 202 where they started and Ash caught Starly. 2.) They haven't been through Jubilife city yet, and route 203 is on the opposite side. Sorry, but this is just not possible. ~GT4GTR

The Anime is DIFFRENT than the games. n00b. Crystal Lucario 12:00, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Good question. I'll look into it more. And Crystallucario, lay off. He only asked a question. --Theryguy512 12:04, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah Crystal, you dont just yell at someone that's asking a questionShiny Lucario 12:15, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, and i'm only a 14 year old kid. ~GT4GTR

Well, just remember, this is the same anime that says Route 24 leads to Vermilion City. TTEchidnaFire echy 06:41, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Yea. And the same anime where Ash is able to carry an 100-pound Hippopotas on top of his head with the slightest of ease... --Theryguy512 11:58, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

<.<' whoa I'm only 12 almost 13... Crystal Lucario 12:03, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Okay, so the anime is different, but still, how did route 203 come up? Did anyone say route 203? ~GT4GTR

You were the one who brought it up. YOU tell ME. Sorry I was so rude...just then. Let's be friends!DaPikanator56 00:48, 31 March 2008 (UTC)DaPikanator56

I know this is old, but it still says route 203. I didn't bring it up, it says it ON THE PAGE. Is there an proof that he was caught on route 203? (GT4GTR 10:41, 21 October 2008 (UTC))

Considering that two episodes before it we have proof that Sato-tachi were on Route 202, and it's not until 5 episodes later that they get to Kotobuki City, I would assume that Neatle was caught on Route 202, not Route 203. Unfortunately, the 10th Movie map gives no little evidence on where Neatle was caught, because it doesn't have a subtitle beneath it where it appears. Since neither Route 202 or Route 203 are mentioned, there isn't an official statement that they are on either when Neatle is caught. However, it seems much more likely to assume that they are on Route 202, than our assumption of Route 203. Of course, we can't go about and change this all until he becomes Satoshi's Hayashigame, can we? Satosuke 13:30, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Protect Until October 30th

There have already been several speculative edits and reverts over the topic of a possible evolution in DP100. Shouldn't this page be protected until October 30th? Satosuke 14:08, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

The evolution has now been confirmed but our policy is to not move the article until the episode airs. Yeah, the protection should stick. --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 16:48, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Why was the protection banner removed? It said because it spoils the episode, but so what? Plenty of other pokémon articles have used this, such as May's pokémon when she returned for the Wallace Cup, so why can't the banner be used now?

----HoennMaster 16:51, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

That banner just said there was a chance that something happens to Turtwig. But we now know what exactly happens so the banner has no use there. Jmath 16:54, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
SOme people just don't like spoilers anyway--Tavisource 16:54, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
And who's to say this isn't its final appearance? Remember, the banner said "evolve and/or leave". Given many different Turtwig, Grotle, and Torterra appear in this episode, it's possible we could have an Ash's Pidgeot-like situation on our hands, and we don't want people putting that in like it was confirmed. Remember, Chimchar is Ash's signature traditional elemental starter in Generation IV--and this would probably be the biggest and best way to send Turtwig off. I mean, if the writers had planned on making Turtwig Ash's signature elemental starter, Chimchar would either be in Brock's hands or still under Paul's control right now. --Shiningpikablu252 20:39, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

So? We had pictures of May's Wartortle from the Wallace Cup and there was still a banner saying it might evolve.

----HoennMaster 17:40, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Probably because there was still a chance at the time of the revelation that it could be seen onscreen evolving--even in the episode where Wartortle was first confirmed to appear evolved. --Shiningpikablu252 20:39, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok...but that still doesn't say anything about why the banner was removed here.

----HoennMaster 20:42, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Probably because Kenji-girl is paranoid. --Shiningpikablu252 20:44, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Scuse me. I'm not paranoid. You the ones who told be we don't mention anything until the episode airs. Isn't that what the banner is doing? We did the same thing for Ash's Chimchar for like a month and it wasn't even evolving. --ケンジガール 06:13, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
"evindence that the subject of this article may evolve or leave." We don't mention anything, regarding of course, the fact of the evolution in the article itself, as if it's already happened, however, this banner warns users that an evolution may occur and to be careful handling information related to it, as rumors may be flying around. The banner exists to tell users "Yes we know it's likely evolving, keep your pants on about it until the episode airs because the rule is "as of the most recent Japanese episode". It's not that the rule is that we can't acknowledge the fact, it's that we don't move anything until it happens. It's why I comment that stuff out. TTEchidna 06:32, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
!!!!it alredy evolved check and look at ashs bio, evolved before dp100 so ur speculations were wrong Ritchie

yes hes right....kinda. serebii did say turtwig evolved and they even have a pic of ash and grotle, but it still said it evolved in Turtwig, Grotle.....Torterra!? or whatever its called Happizelpom 13:35, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

It was also my idea about the "until it airs" thing, and I previews ARE OFFICIAL.--Tavisource 23:11, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

You guys need to read, it even says on the main page that it contains spoilers for NEXT WEEK'S episode.

----HoennMaster 14:08, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

man just go to serebii and find out for urself. they usually update stuff before bulba and even if it says NEXT WEEK, it already happened..i guess he just got a preview pic or someting..Ritchie
Ritchie's right. Its on serebii, and I think we can rely on it. DP099 already aired and got some episode preview for DP100.. isn't that enough proof?--kebs. 14:06, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Seriously does anyone here know how to read? Yes, it comes from the episode preview, but turtwig won't evolve until next week as it says on Serebii.

----HoennMaster 14:08, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

oh, I get it. imaiso*. --kebs. 14:21, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Preview = didn't happen yet, folks. TTEchidna 21:09, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
ye but thats the points of a preview. u find out what happenes before hand , eurging u to watch it. so now we know he gets a grotle. thats final Blazinhariison
so tte, your basically saying a preview is wrong??? Ritchie
i think u mean that "it may be a preview but hte episode didnt air", however tte the preview is FROM the episode and it just showed us what WILL happen...P.S. im also ritchie lol Blazinhariison

Please sign your comments with the time stamp of the four tildes. That being said, it's also possible that Grotle could evolve again, leave later in the episode; we just DON'T KNOW. That's why we don't jump the gun and put in information that COULD be false. Yes, we know that Turtwig is going to evolve at least once. We've known this with a high percentage of certainty for a while now. But, we cannot post it until we know just what happens next week. Serebii doesn't know what happens in the next episode, only what was shown in the preview. So we cannot post it as if it were true unless we know the full truth of the matter. Satosuke 23:43, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

yay it evolved!


Why do people keep chaning this to 95? It appears debuts in DP005 so that makes it 96. --HoennMaster 03:52, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Try 100-5= 95 :3...... It actually does evolve 95 episodes after its capture. --Force Fire 03:56, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
How the heck does anyone get that 5 + 96 = 100... Math refresher course for everyone. 95 episodes makes it the same amount as Grovyle's into Scepty, too. TTEchidna 04:12, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I know how to do Math, but 95 is wrong. It may evolve 95 episodes later, but it still appears as a Turtwig in 96 episodes. --HoennMaster 04:15, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

That's the point. It evolved 95 episodes later. It's not how many episodes it appeared as a Turtwig in, otherwise we'd have Brock's Steelix taking 5 episodes to evolve. Seriously, how often did that thing appear? TTEchidna 04:38, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
I know there's a particular way to count. For Example: How many days until saturday? Since today is Saturday, and if we include Saturday in the count it would be eight days (Sat, Sun, Mon, Tue, Wen, Thu, Fri, and Sat) even though it's only supposed to seven days. But we don't do that in math (start from a certain digit and include the same digit in the math). In math it's always the next "digit" that counts when we start from "something" (like "1" we start from "0" but we don't include it). Another example, 5+5 is 10 but we don't count the first 5 as part of the equation, the count continues on 6. HoennMaster if we did it your way 5+5 would equal 11 not 10. So the same thing applies to Turtwig's evolution count. It's debut episode basically doesn't count in the equation since it's the "something" we start from in the count. We start with DP06 as "1" not DP05 "0"--Dman dustin 09:03, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't need a math lesson, I know full well how to do Math. Also, I don't need a million people telling me the same thing. Redundancy is not good. --HoennMaster 10:36, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah well and you don't need to take it offensively. Why the hell do people get offended, when people are trying to help them? --Dman dustin 12:35, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

rock climb

what does it mean by "Grotle surpassed its own limits and learned rock climb through its willpower alone" dont all pokemon do that? Happizelpom 03:41, 5 April 2009 (UTC)