Talk:Ash's Gible: Difference between revisions

From Bulbapedia, the community-driven Pokémon encyclopedia.
Jump to navigationJump to search
(31 intermediate revisions by 22 users not shown)
Line 26: Line 26:
::::::Then what about all the ones using moves that work like HM's but aren't? For all you know Gible could have just used another attack or it could have just whacked the rock. There are many different explanations of it.--[[User:Lycos Ex Mortis|Lycos Ex Mortis]] 10:36, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::Then what about all the ones using moves that work like HM's but aren't? For all you know Gible could have just used another attack or it could have just whacked the rock. There are many different explanations of it.--[[User:Lycos Ex Mortis|Lycos Ex Mortis]] 10:36, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I believe Ash actually '''commanded''' Gible to use Rock Smash. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 10:42, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I believe Ash actually '''commanded''' Gible to use Rock Smash. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 10:42, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Well, actually, Ash's Charizard used Fly. It's article said so. {{unsigned|Flyingtypefan}}
Here is the link: [[Ash's Charizard]]. Look at the moves table. One of these articles has to be wrong. (Sorry i forgot to sign the last post.) [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 04:26, 17 May 2010 (UTC)


== 3rd Pokemon who's gender is confirmed? ==
== 3rd Pokemon who's gender is confirmed? ==


It say Gible is Ash's 3rd Pokemon with a confirmed gender, the first 2 were Tauros and Buizel. What about Pikachu? Wasn't he confirmed to be male long before Gible is caught? Theres so much evidence that Pikachu is male.[[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 23:11, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
It say Gible is Ash's 3rd Pokemon with a confirmed gender, the first 2 were Tauros and Buizel. What about Pikachu? Wasn't he confirmed to be male long before Gible is caught? Theres so much evidence that Pikachu is male.[[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 23:11, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
:It says '''before''' it was caught. Pikachu's gender wasn't known until over ''600'' episodes '''after''' it was caught. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 23:29, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
:It says '''before''' it was caught, meaning the Pokémon in question. So in Pikachu's case it would be when Pikachu was given to Ash. Pikachu's gender wasn't known until over ''600'' episodes '''after''' it was caught. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 23:29, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 
== Ash's Gible's English voice actor? ==
It sounds like the voice actor of Gible is similar to the voice of Bibarel. So if anyone knows the voice actor of Bibarel that means it will be the voice of Gible as well. {{unsigned|Shapps07}}
:According to the episode article, Bibarel's dub VA was Tom Wayland.  <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 11:59, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:Gible's VA sounds like Billy Beach to me. When Meowth did his fantasy, and did his impression of Gible, it sounded awful close--just Meowth-like.--[[User:Skulblaka Shurtugal|Skulblaka Shurtugal]] 23:53, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 
== And Torterra ==
This: "Gible is Ash's second Ground-type Pokémon with a second type to its species. The first was Ash's Gliscor. Gible also replaces Gliscor in the sixth slot of Ash's party. Also, they both have a double weakness to the Ice-type. "
Should be updated, or at least I think so, it should go like this: "Gible is Ash's second Ground-type Pokémon with a second type to its species. The first was Ash's Gliscor and the third was Ash's Torterra. Gible also replaces Gliscor in the sixth slot of Ash's party. Also, they all have a double weakness to the Ice-type."
Or if you want to consider the order of capture, despite turtwig and grotle not being ground type, then torterra is first, then gliscor and finally gible. [[User:Luord|Luord]] 04:56, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:It's fine the way it is. It's only referring to Gliscor's relationship to Gible. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 04:58, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::Personally, I think the trivia needs to be removed because saying "second Ground-type Pokémon with a second type to its species" is somewhat contrived. If you want to have the relationship mentioned, you could simply state that it replaces Gliscor, which was also of the Ground-type. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 05:00, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:::I agree with darklord, if the point is refer to gliscor's relationship to gible, then just put like that, but saying that is ash's second ground type with a secondary type and not mention torterra, then it's somehow ignorint it; it should be removed, or changed [[User:Luord|Luord]] 23:29, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 
== Crunch ? ==
 
Who said it used Crunch? A pokemon can eat somthing without using Crunch. [[User:05308|Lanturn....05308]] 17:35, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
: I was going to edit it, but I'm just going to screw it up. I'll leave it to the people who know more about editing a wiki of this caliber. And I agree, who's to say it isn't bite or something. Crunch was never commanded and it was at most because of Gible's personality, Crunch should be deleted from the list. Until Ash specifically commands it. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 02:16, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
:: Sorry to say but I did my research before I edited Gible's moves, it is going to be Crunch, on the preview scan of DP185 Gible stopped Conway's Shuckle's (soon to appear on episode DP185) attack with it. (what looks like either a Rollout, Gyro Ball or Rapid Spin though it can't learn it in the games.) What better move can Ash's Gible use on a Shuckle. I saw the the scan on youtube, here's the link, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNCCuS7LHcY. Also if you actually bothered to go to the moved itself someone has placed Ash's Gible on the '''In The Anime''' section although it can't learn it legally in the games. This is also the same as Ash's Corphish using Dig in the episode ''Gone Corphishing'' but has not used it again since Ash catched it. {{unsigned|Anubis}}
:::All that can be seen in that picture is that Shuckle's attack goes between Gible's open jaws. There isn't even any evidence that it's using a move. In Dawn's battle against Maylene Ambipom stopped a Drain Punch with her tail-hand, it could be a similar thing here, since Gible has been shown to have powerful jaws. Until DP185 airs and shows Ash telling Gible to use Crunch, or someone else stating it's Crunch (as opposed to {{m|Bite}} for example), it's just speculation and can't be added to the page. Corphish was different as it was burrowing underground. The anime has shown that that can only be done by {{m|Dig}}. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</sc> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 07:34, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 
== Is this trivia worthy? ==
 
All Ash's Dragon type pokemon was caught without battling Gible, Goomy, Noibat willingly follow Ash after he asked them
Is this trivia worthy? {{unsigned|Makarov5}}
: I don't think this is notable because Bulbapedia appears to have a rule that is "not unique = not notable".[[User:Ratchet and Clank 1995|Ratchet and Clank 1995]] ([[User talk:Ratchet and Clank 1995|talk]]) 16:36, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
::I think this is noteworthy but not here on this page but instead on [[Ash Ketchum|ash's]] page, something like "All of Ash's Dragon type Pokémon have been caught without battle". --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:Raltseye|talk]]) 16:55, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
::: I guess that could be suitable, but it should be discussed before adding it to the page.[[User:Ratchet and Clank 1995|Ratchet and Clank 1995]] ([[User talk:Ratchet and Clank 1995|talk]]) 17:13, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
::::The only thing that makes it unnotable for me is that it's only three Pokémon so it's too small of a group. However, I'm willing to say that this is notable solely due to them being Dragon types (and Dragon types are generally hard to catch), so having them willingly follow Ash rather than have Ash work to get them would make it notable, in my opinion.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 03:57, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Revision as of 03:57, 22 September 2015

You might wanna add Dragon Pulse to that list. ;) --Oz 09:52, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Let's get the moves right

From my knowlege of watching the episodes

Gible can use Rockthrow, Draco Meteor, Dragon Pulse, Dig, and Slash

Gible I believe can not use rock smash this could just be Gible using Slash on rocks or hitting a rock but it can't use rock smash

Forgive me if I'm wrong I'm new to Bulbapedia - unsigned comment from Gotpika (talkcontribs)

Throwing one rock doesn't mean it can use Rock Throw. --HoennMaster 08:43, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

We went over this on Brocks Hippiny. Random Chaos Was here 09:07, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Actually, Gible can use Rock Smash. It learns it by HM. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 16:29, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Second with an HM?

It says that Gible is the second to use an HM after Grotle with Rock Climb but what about Lapras with Surf? And I'm sure there have been others.--Lycos Ex Mortis 22:34, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

According to Ash's Lapras' article, it never used Surf. -Sketch 22:36, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
It may not say it but I'm currently watching the Orange Islands series and it appears to know Surf cause it rides over the water which is what Surf does.--Lycos Ex Mortis 22:46, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
A lot of Pokémon go in the water. That doesn't mean they know surf. -Sketch 22:49, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
They go in the water yes but they don't go on the top of the water with humans riding them much like surf. Also Pidgeot appears to know Fly since it carried Ash on its back a trait of Fly. Though even if Gible in the game can learn Rock smash it doesn't mean that it knows it in the anime. IIRC Ash's Bulbasaur has cut down some bushes in the anime but was using Razor Leaf not cut so its possible Gible was using a different attack unless Ash actually said "Gible use Rock smash"--Lycos Ex Mortis 22:58, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Why does this conversation about Surf keep coming back? It's stupid... of course the Pokémon swim with a human riding them. They can't swim underwater without having to come up every 30 seconds or so so the human can breathe. Ash has used Squirtle to travel short distances (and in M01 it was long distance in a storm), Misty has used various Water types, and so many others have done the same thing. It's not surf. It's something called "swimming". Just like with Fly. You don't get on a bird to have it walk you around, unless it's a Doduo or Dodrio. That's what wings are for. Flying. R.A. Hunter Blade 05:38, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Then what about all the ones using moves that work like HM's but aren't? For all you know Gible could have just used another attack or it could have just whacked the rock. There are many different explanations of it.--Lycos Ex Mortis 10:36, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
I believe Ash actually commanded Gible to use Rock Smash. --ケンジガール 10:42, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, actually, Ash's Charizard used Fly. It's article said so. - unsigned comment from Flyingtypefan (talkcontribs)

Here is the link: Ash's Charizard. Look at the moves table. One of these articles has to be wrong. (Sorry i forgot to sign the last post.) Flyingtypefan 04:26, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

3rd Pokemon who's gender is confirmed?

It say Gible is Ash's 3rd Pokemon with a confirmed gender, the first 2 were Tauros and Buizel. What about Pikachu? Wasn't he confirmed to be male long before Gible is caught? Theres so much evidence that Pikachu is male.SeanWheeler 23:11, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

It says before it was caught, meaning the Pokémon in question. So in Pikachu's case it would be when Pikachu was given to Ash. Pikachu's gender wasn't known until over 600 episodes after it was caught. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 23:29, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Ash's Gible's English voice actor?

It sounds like the voice actor of Gible is similar to the voice of Bibarel. So if anyone knows the voice actor of Bibarel that means it will be the voice of Gible as well. - unsigned comment from Shapps07 (talkcontribs)

According to the episode article, Bibarel's dub VA was Tom Wayland. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talkcontribs) 11:59, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Gible's VA sounds like Billy Beach to me. When Meowth did his fantasy, and did his impression of Gible, it sounded awful close--just Meowth-like.--Skulblaka Shurtugal 23:53, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

And Torterra

This: "Gible is Ash's second Ground-type Pokémon with a second type to its species. The first was Ash's Gliscor. Gible also replaces Gliscor in the sixth slot of Ash's party. Also, they both have a double weakness to the Ice-type. " Should be updated, or at least I think so, it should go like this: "Gible is Ash's second Ground-type Pokémon with a second type to its species. The first was Ash's Gliscor and the third was Ash's Torterra. Gible also replaces Gliscor in the sixth slot of Ash's party. Also, they all have a double weakness to the Ice-type." Or if you want to consider the order of capture, despite turtwig and grotle not being ground type, then torterra is first, then gliscor and finally gible. Luord 04:56, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

It's fine the way it is. It's only referring to Gliscor's relationship to Gible. --ケンジガール 04:58, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Personally, I think the trivia needs to be removed because saying "second Ground-type Pokémon with a second type to its species" is somewhat contrived. If you want to have the relationship mentioned, you could simply state that it replaces Gliscor, which was also of the Ground-type. —darklordtrom 05:00, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
I agree with darklord, if the point is refer to gliscor's relationship to gible, then just put like that, but saying that is ash's second ground type with a secondary type and not mention torterra, then it's somehow ignorint it; it should be removed, or changed Luord 23:29, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Crunch ?

Who said it used Crunch? A pokemon can eat somthing without using Crunch. Lanturn....05308 17:35, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

I was going to edit it, but I'm just going to screw it up. I'll leave it to the people who know more about editing a wiki of this caliber. And I agree, who's to say it isn't bite or something. Crunch was never commanded and it was at most because of Gible's personality, Crunch should be deleted from the list. Until Ash specifically commands it. --Dman dustin 02:16, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Sorry to say but I did my research before I edited Gible's moves, it is going to be Crunch, on the preview scan of DP185 Gible stopped Conway's Shuckle's (soon to appear on episode DP185) attack with it. (what looks like either a Rollout, Gyro Ball or Rapid Spin though it can't learn it in the games.) What better move can Ash's Gible use on a Shuckle. I saw the the scan on youtube, here's the link, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNCCuS7LHcY. Also if you actually bothered to go to the moved itself someone has placed Ash's Gible on the In The Anime section although it can't learn it legally in the games. This is also the same as Ash's Corphish using Dig in the episode Gone Corphishing but has not used it again since Ash catched it. - unsigned comment from Anubis (talkcontribs)
All that can be seen in that picture is that Shuckle's attack goes between Gible's open jaws. There isn't even any evidence that it's using a move. In Dawn's battle against Maylene Ambipom stopped a Drain Punch with her tail-hand, it could be a similar thing here, since Gible has been shown to have powerful jaws. Until DP185 airs and shows Ash telling Gible to use Crunch, or someone else stating it's Crunch (as opposed to Bite for example), it's just speculation and can't be added to the page. Corphish was different as it was burrowing underground. The anime has shown that that can only be done by Dig. Werdnae (talk) 07:34, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Is this trivia worthy?

All Ash's Dragon type pokemon was caught without battling Gible, Goomy, Noibat willingly follow Ash after he asked them Is this trivia worthy? - unsigned comment from Makarov5 (talkcontribs)

I don't think this is notable because Bulbapedia appears to have a rule that is "not unique = not notable".Ratchet and Clank 1995 (talk) 16:36, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
I think this is noteworthy but not here on this page but instead on ash's page, something like "All of Ash's Dragon type Pokémon have been caught without battle". --Raltseye (talk) 16:55, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
I guess that could be suitable, but it should be discussed before adding it to the page.Ratchet and Clank 1995 (talk) 17:13, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
The only thing that makes it unnotable for me is that it's only three Pokémon so it's too small of a group. However, I'm willing to say that this is notable solely due to them being Dragon types (and Dragon types are generally hard to catch), so having them willingly follow Ash rather than have Ash work to get them would make it notable, in my opinion.--ForceFire 03:57, 22 September 2015 (UTC)