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A Mistake and a Question

Before I changed the page it said "Charizard 'M can be found in all slots from 248 to 255", which is not true, I have tested it, though there is a another 'M found in between Slots 248 and 255 (I think the Hex was FE or FD), it is NOT the same glitch as 'M or Charizard 'M. As for my question, in TR Rose's GlitchDex it says in Charizard 'M's page "Although Charizard 'M seems to be the most common form (possibly caused by a blank spot in your party), this glitch can also be a glitched version of other Pokemon, such as Gengar, Machop, or Butterfree. A Gengar form of this glitch appeared after a trainer used the Extended Mew Trick to obtain a regular Gengar. The glitch will have the same elemental types as the other Pokemon, but will learn very different level-up moves." Has anyone EVER had this happen? Trust me, my Favorite Glitch is Charizard 'M and I have tried this so many times, but to no avail with this. --Boxman, a Guy who works with Glitches. 23:56, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


I just got a Charizard 'M by using a Gameshark and Pokemon Blue. I put in the code for Professor Oak and then once he came on screen, I turned the code off. One of his Pokemon was a Charizard 'M. Then I used the catch trainer's Pokemon code to catch it. It was different than what was explained on the article, though. First off, I caught it, and the article said it was only available by trading a Q from Yellow. Second, it had my name for original trainer, its ID was #006, and it appeared in the Pokedex. I didn't try to name it, but I think it asked me. Its name wasn't in my list though, just a blank space. At first it seemed pretty normal. It didn't make my Pokemon invisible and I could heal it at a Pokemon Center. The only thing that happened was that when I switched it with another Pokemon, it turned into Charizard 'M, and my Pokemon's names messed up, but when I switched it back, everything was fine. No sign that anything happened. I think mine might be a different Charizard 'M, because when I battled it, its sprite wasn't backward, as depicted in the article. I will change the article though, to explain that it is available by use of Gameshark. If anyone tries this using a Gameshark, please comment and tell me if yours acts the same way. Glitchman 21:32, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


The article indicates that "Charizard 'M only gets STAB from normal type moves," and it gives as a source. However, that page says nothing about STAB, and that website's Charizard 'M page says nothing about it either. Does anyone know if this is true for certain? Another thing is that our move list only indicates STAB for two of the Normal moves and one is a non-attacking move. Is this intentional? — Laoris (Blah) 20:00, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Charizard 'M doesn't even get STAB on normal moves, as it's Fire/Flying type. Somebody goofed up here. I'm Missingno. Master. See my new and improved user page, and comment on it! 20:08, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Well, it does say that it gets STAB from normal-type moves as a "unique ability". I figured anything was possible when talking about glitchy Pokémon. — Laoris (Blah) 20:11, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Japanese name

Both Charizard 'M and 'M have the same name in english games, but only this article has the jap. name. Is it safe to assume that the two share identical Japanese names? Missingno. Master wants YOU! Join the Order of the Glitch! (my talk page) 22:25, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

They seem to be the same Pokemon in Green as in Blue/Red (unlike quite a few other glitches)(Pycthedragon 23:02, 2 March 2011 (UTC))

Is Q the Only Way?

While trading between a Red and Yellow ROM the special Pikachu turned into a Charizard 'M once traded into Red. The Red ROM has been glitched (the Mew glitch and the multiple items glitch specifically). If this isn't an isolated case, then I'll add it to the article. Any help would be appreciated. (Keldog09 22:19, 25 July 2009 (UTC))

If one does the Save Corruption Glitch a lot of the 255(?) glitch pokémon in ones party are 'M. At least on EU English Blue. So Q and such is not the only way.MasterZeroFlash (talk) 14:37, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
Yes, you do get 'M (FF) in it. You should be able to warp to a place with a Pokémon Center, deposit your 255 Pokémon, catch Pokémon for the merge glitch (making sure you buy balls or expanded your items pack before) and do the merge glitch from there. You can also get Charizard 'M with CoolTrainer (video). Chickasaurus (talk) 14:25, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Effect on Other Pokemon

Should we mention that 'M(FF) can turn your other Pokemon into 'M(FF)s if kept in the PC with other Pokemon? PalkiaMaster (talk) (contributions) (talk) 01:06, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Alternate method of obtaining 'M

"The only way to obtain a 'M is by trading. It can be obtained by trading a Q ◣ from Pokémon Yellow."

That's not true. You can obtain one through Super Glitch moves, as TheZZAZZGlitch demonstrates at (around 3:06). I just tried it out myself, and it worked fine; I was able to catch it in the same exact way.

(I tried to link the youtube video directly, but I could not see the CAPTCHA.)

KupferudelWolf (talk) 18:43, 16 March 2016 (UTC)


Yes, you can get M(FF) without trading or activating english dokoshira door. You just have to save screen data in a certain spot in the route 1 glitch city ZeMonGrabber (talk) 20:02, 31 May 2017 (UTC)