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Over the course of the Pokémon series, a number of creatures with traits of Pokémon have appeared that are not the same as any known Pokémon. Their status as Pokémon is often disputed. There are also some Pokémon, such as the original [[Legendary beasts]] prior to their reincarnation by {{p|Ho-Oh}}, which have not been identified. For unknown Pokémon exclusive to pre-release material, see [[List of unused Pokémon and character designs]]; for creatures primarily considered to be animals, see [[Animals in the Pokémon world]]. | {{move|Disputed and unidentified Pokémon}} | ||
{{incomplete|needs=Add info on creatures from Pocket Monsters manga [http://www.mangapanda.com/pocket-monster-kin-gin-golden-boys/1/21 here] and [http://www.mangapanda.com/pocket-monster-kin-gin-golden-boys/1 here] and red creature from [https://www.dexerto.com/pokemon/unknown-pokemon-spotted-in-crown-tundra-trailer-1374060 Crown Tundra hat], Sword and Shield original Fossil Pokémon, add images}} | |||
Over the course of the [[Pokémon]] series, a number of creatures with traits of {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} have appeared that are not the same as any known Pokémon. Their status as Pokémon is often disputed. There are also some Pokémon, such as the original [[Legendary beasts]] prior to their reincarnation by {{p|Ho-Oh}}, which have not been identified. For unknown Pokémon exclusive to pre-release material, see [[List of unused Pokémon and character designs]]; for creatures primarily considered to be animals, see [[Animals in the Pokémon world]]. | |||
==List of disputed Pokémon== | ==List of disputed Pokémon== | ||
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|epname=Pokémon Red and Green Versions | |epname=Pokémon Red and Green Versions | ||
|desc=[[File:115Kangaskhan.png|right|130px]][[File:115Kangaskhan-Mega.png|right|130px]]{{main|Kangaskhan (Pokémon)}}<br> | |desc=[[File:115Kangaskhan.png|right|130px]][[File:115Kangaskhan-Mega.png|right|130px]]{{main|Kangaskhan (Pokémon)}}<br> | ||
Kangaskhan carries around a little blue baby Kangaskhan in their pouch. The baby Kangaskhan lacks the ridges and patches on its mother's body, and its small fangs are not visible outside of its mouth. Even with the advent of {{pkmn|breeding}} and [[baby Pokémon]], the baby Kangaskhan has yet to be made into a separate Pokémon, and as a result, all Kangaskhan are born with a baby already in its pouch. As part of Kangaskhan's [[Mega Evolution]], however, the baby | Kangaskhan carries around a little blue baby Kangaskhan in their pouch. The baby Kangaskhan lacks the ridges and patches on its mother's body, and its small fangs are not visible outside of its mouth. Even with the advent of {{pkmn|breeding}} and [[baby Pokémon]], the baby Kangaskhan has yet to be made into a separate Pokémon, and as a result, all Kangaskhan are born with a baby already in its pouch. As part of Kangaskhan's [[Mega Evolution]], however, the baby leaves its pouch and is capable of fighting alongside its mother, thanks to Mega Kangaskhan's {{a|Parental Bond}} [[Ability]].}} | ||
{{TrainerPoké | {{TrainerPoké | ||
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|epname=The Reawakening | |epname=The Reawakening | ||
|desc=[[File:Entei Raikou Suicune.png|right|130px]]{{main|Raikou (Pokémon)}}<br>{{main|Entei (Pokémon)}}<br>{{main|Suicune (Pokémon)}}<br>{{main|Legendary beasts}}<br> | |desc=[[File:Entei Raikou Suicune.png|right|130px]]{{main|Raikou (Pokémon)}}<br>{{main|Entei (Pokémon)}}<br>{{main|Suicune (Pokémon)}}<br>{{main|Legendary beasts}}<br> | ||
It is said that the Legendary beasts {{p|Raikou}}, {{p|Entei}}, and {{p|Suicune}} were reincarnated after they died in the fire that burned down the [[Brass Tower]] by {{p|Ho-Oh}}. They were said to represent the lightning that struck the tower, the fire that burned the tower down, and the rain that put it out. While it is unknown in the games if these three were already a Raikou, Entei, and Suicune before they were revived, the [[Pokémon Generations]] short ''[[PG06|The Reawakening]]'' showed that they were three, nameless Pokémon.}} | It is said that the Legendary beasts {{p|Raikou}}, {{p|Entei}}, and {{p|Suicune}} were reincarnated after they died in the fire that burned down the [[Burned Tower|Brass Tower]] by {{p|Ho-Oh}}. They were said to represent the lightning that struck the tower, the fire that burned the tower down, and the rain that put it out. While it is unknown in the games if these three were already a Raikou, Entei, and Suicune before they were revived, the [[Pokémon Generations]] short ''[[PG06|The Reawakening]]'' showed that they were three, nameless Pokémon.}} | ||
{{TrainerPoké | {{TrainerPoké | ||
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|epname=Pokémon Black and White Versions | |epname=Pokémon Black and White Versions | ||
|desc={{main|Reshiram (Pokémon)}} {{main|Zekrom (Pokémon)}}<br>{{main|Kyurem (Pokémon)}} {{main|Tao trio}}<br> | |desc={{main|Reshiram (Pokémon)}} {{main|Zekrom (Pokémon)}}<br>{{main|Kyurem (Pokémon)}} {{main|Tao trio}}<br> | ||
According to one legend, Reshiram and Zekrom | According to one legend, Reshiram and Zekrom were once a single powerful Dragon Pokémon used by twin heroes in order to create the Unova region. But the brothers each sought something different in life—truth for the older brother and ideals for the younger—and they began to argue, then fight, over whose side was right. The single dragon, in response, split into two Pokémon: Reshiram, who sided with the older twin, and Zekrom, who sided with the younger twin. A different narrative is told by [[Ghetsis]] and [[Drayden]] in {{2v2|Black|White|2}}: when the original dragon split into Reshiram and Zekrom, a third dragon, Kyurem, was "created" from the leftovers. The Pokédex entry for Kyurem also states that it is waiting for a hero to fill in the missing parts of its body with "truth or ideals". Kyurem can be with Reshiram or Zekrom to form White Kyurem and Black Kyurem, respectively, using [[DNA Splicers]].}} | ||
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|epnum=M03 | |epnum=M03 | ||
|epname=Spell of the Unown: Entei | |epname=Spell of the Unown: Entei | ||
|desc=[[File:791Solgaleo.png|right|120px]]An unnamed sun was seen in [[Molly Hale]]'s book of Legendary Pokémon in ''[[M03|Spell of the Unown: Entei]]''. The only Legendary Pokémon related to the sun is {{p|Solgaleo}} | |desc=[[File:791Solgaleo.png|right|120px]]An unnamed sun was seen in [[Molly Hale]]'s book of Legendary Pokémon in ''[[M03|Spell of the Unown: Entei]]''. The only known Legendary Pokémon related to the sun is {{p|Solgaleo}}.}} | ||
{{TrainerPoké | {{TrainerPoké |
Revision as of 06:19, 6 July 2020
This article contains fan speculation. There is no solid evidence for or against some parts of this article. |
It has been suggested that this article be moved to Disputed and unidentified Pokémon. Please discuss whether or not to move it on its talk page. |
This article is incomplete. Please feel free to edit this article to add missing information and complete it. Reason: Add info on creatures from Pocket Monsters manga here and here and red creature from Crown Tundra hat, Sword and Shield original Fossil Pokémon, add images |
Over the course of the Pokémon series, a number of creatures with traits of Pokémon have appeared that are not the same as any known Pokémon. Their status as Pokémon is often disputed. There are also some Pokémon, such as the original Legendary beasts prior to their reincarnation by Ho-Oh, which have not been identified. For unknown Pokémon exclusive to pre-release material, see List of unused Pokémon and character designs; for creatures primarily considered to be animals, see Animals in the Pokémon world.
List of disputed Pokémon
In the games
In Pokémon Red and Green, there is unused text for extra badges, "Egg" and "Chick", "Bronze" "Silver" and "Gold", and what appears to be the names of unused Trainer classes. These strings are defined in the ROM directly after floor names, which follow on from item names, meaning that the unused text can be forced as glitch items. The text remains untranslated in the localised Red and Blue, and Egg and Chick are kept with the names "たまご" and "ひよこ" respectively. This results in illegible text in the English versions, because the character table for the localised Generation I games is incompatible with Red and Green. It is unknown what "Egg" and "Chick" would have referred to, or whether the concept was a precursor to Pokémon Eggs. The text matches early Capsule Monsters artwork in which an unknown creature can be seen fleeing from an egg. The concept may also be reminiscent of the Fresh egg and Chick items in EarthBound, in which the player would keep the Egg until it hatched into a Chick, and then raise the Chicken and eventually sell it. EarthBound was a game that Ape Inc. developed; the company that eventually became Creatures, Inc. | ||
Debut | Pokémon Red and Green beta |
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While the Substitute doll originally looked similar to Rhydon, the design evolved over time to a more neutral design. In Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS/Wii U, its trophy description points out that, while it looks and gets attacked like a Pokémon, it is not actually one. The doll has gone on to receive several pieces of merchandise, including its own plush doll and clothes. | ||
Debut | Pokémon Red and Green Versions |
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According to the Pokédex and in the anime, Slowpoke evolves into Slowbro or Slowking via Shellder. Shellder clamps onto a Slowpoke's tail to evolve into Slowbro, or onto its head while wearing the King's Rock to evolve into a Slowking. In Galar, it clamps onto the regional Slowpoke's arm and causes a poisonous reaction. Even though Shellder changes form drastically when it bonds with Slowpoke to evolve, it is not considered an evolution in and of itself. Mega Slowbro has the Shellder engulf most of Slowbro's body, essentially making it a shell for Mega Slowbro. | ||
Debut | Pokémon Red and Green Versions |
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Kangaskhan carries around a little blue baby Kangaskhan in their pouch. The baby Kangaskhan lacks the ridges and patches on its mother's body, and its small fangs are not visible outside of its mouth. Even with the advent of breeding and baby Pokémon, the baby Kangaskhan has yet to be made into a separate Pokémon, and as a result, all Kangaskhan are born with a baby already in its pouch. As part of Kangaskhan's Mega Evolution, however, the baby leaves its pouch and is capable of fighting alongside its mother, thanks to Mega Kangaskhan's Parental Bond Ability. | ||
Debut | Pokémon Red and Green Versions |
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It is said that the Legendary beasts Raikou, Entei, and Suicune were reincarnated after they died in the fire that burned down the Brass Tower by Ho-Oh. They were said to represent the lightning that struck the tower, the fire that burned the tower down, and the rain that put it out. While it is unknown in the games if these three were already a Raikou, Entei, and Suicune before they were revived, the Pokémon Generations short The Reawakening showed that they were three, nameless Pokémon. | ||
Debut | The Reawakening |
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According to interviews with Ken Sugimori in Nintendo Dream, the bones that Vullaby and Mandibuzz wear are those of other Pokémon. However, it is not stated which Pokémon they are from, and as the skeletal systems for the majority of Pokémon have yet to be revealed, it is unknown if they are meant to be the bones of a specific Pokémon. However, the skull that Vullaby wears as a diaper is similar to a human skull, which may indicate that the bones are from a Pokémon in the Human-Like Egg Group. | ||
Debut | Pokémon Black and White Versions |
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According to one legend, Reshiram and Zekrom were once a single powerful Dragon Pokémon used by twin heroes in order to create the Unova region. But the brothers each sought something different in life—truth for the older brother and ideals for the younger—and they began to argue, then fight, over whose side was right. The single dragon, in response, split into two Pokémon: Reshiram, who sided with the older twin, and Zekrom, who sided with the younger twin. A different narrative is told by Ghetsis and Drayden in Black 2 and White 2: when the original dragon split into Reshiram and Zekrom, a third dragon, Kyurem, was "created" from the leftovers. The Pokédex entry for Kyurem also states that it is waiting for a hero to fill in the missing parts of its body with "truth or ideals". Kyurem can be with Reshiram or Zekrom to form White Kyurem and Black Kyurem, respectively, using DNA Splicers. | ||
Debut | Pokémon Black and White Versions |
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While Genesect is a cyborg Pokémon, it did not previously take this form. The modern Genesect was revived by Team Plasma from a fossil of this Pokémon, and modified into its present appearance. According to Genesect's Pokédex entries, it existed over 300 million years ago, and was feared as a powerful hunter. Due to its lack of Team Plasma alterations, it is unlikely that it would have been part Steel-type, nor would it have access to Techno Blast or similar moves. In Genesect and the Legend Awakened and its manga adaptation, fossilized parts of the original Genesect's body are seen. These fossils bear a great similarity to the bodily structure of the modern Genesect. However, these fossils have not yet been seen anywhere outside of the anime. | ||
Debut | Pokémon Black and White Versions |
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A silhouette possibly of a Pokémon was discovered while rummaging through coding of the Trading Card Game Online. This silhouette was discovered in the navigation bar on the game's tutorial page, combined with images of the Unova starter Pokémon. No additional information on the silhouette was contained in the source code of the tutorial's Flash file. According to Serena Robar, a community manager for The Pokémon Company International, it is not a new Pokémon, but is actually just a placeholder image that wasn't removed after the code was decompiled. | ||
Debut | Pokémon Trading Card Game Online |
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Dark Rust is a living Wonder Key and the commander of the Rust Army in Pokémon Rumble Blast. It can be fought in the fifth and final chamber of the Team Battle in World Axle - Deepest Level. Although Dark Rust is not considered to be a real Pokémon, it actually has its own cry. | ||
Debut | Pokémon Rumble Blast |
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Bittercold is a living lifeform that is trying to destroy Mist Continent. It can be fought in Glacier Palace's Great Spire. Although Bittercold is not considered to be a real Pokémon, it used unnamed moves to hinder Pokémon. | ||
Debut | Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity |
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Void Shadows inhabit the Voidlands and will consume any Pokémon they encounter and are capable of shapeshifting into any Pokémon. Being minions of Dark Matter, the Void Shadows do not seem to have an individual personality. However, they seem to be akin to Ditto in that they can act as if they were another Pokémon; for example, one of them disguises itself as Bunnelby. While they do not seem to be much in the way of speech, they are very aggressive to the player and their partner; going as far as to take on the form of a Mega Tyranitar and a pair of Mega Gengar as a means to stop them from returning to their world—they are even willing to kill them to stop them. Unlike other Pokémon, their character portrait is obscured by static, much like that of Dark Matter. | ||
Debut | Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon |
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Dark Matter is a living lifeform that is trying to send all Pokémon to the Voidlands and to return the Pokémon world to the void. It can be fought after clearing Tree of Life: Trunk. Although Dark Matter is not considered to be a real Pokémon, it can use moves against Pokémon and can give itself a random type. | ||
Debut | Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon |
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In the anime
In The Ghost of Maiden's Peak, a Gastly with the ability to create illusions solid enough to attack people created a crossbreed of a Blastoise and a Venusaur, calling it a "Venustoise" (Japanese: フシギックス Fushigix). | ||
Debut | The Ghost of Maiden's Peak |
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The only known information about this creature is from its brief appearance in The Ancient Puzzle of Pokémopolis. It seems to be a bear with decorative markings covering its body. Since markings like this are also present on the other Pokémopolis Pokémon featured in the episode like Gengar and Alakazam, it is unlikely to have been a normal feature. | ||
Debut | The Puzzle of Pokémopolis |
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This creature made its sole appearance in The Superhero Secret. It seems to be a giant yellow spider, with four red compound eyes, two antennae on its head, and a mouth with four large fangs. Its thorax has eight long, brown legs. Its abdomen is much larger relative to the rest of it body, with two thin, black stripes. Its cry is a screech, not unlike Victreebel's. The nature of its appearance (in a Gligarman movie) would appear to indicate it may be a fictional monster or Pokémon, and whether it is supposed to be portrayed by a real Pokémon, a mecha, or simply special effects is unclear, though its movements and cry give it an extremely organic appearance. Due to its rather early appearance in the Johto series of the anime, it is unlikely to have been intended to be in the games, and can be considered to be an anime-exclusive creature. | ||
Debut | The Superhero Secret |
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This is the only representation in the anime, albeit in statue form, of the aquatic life that Kabutops is said to have feasted on in most Pokédex entries since Pokémon Red and Blue.
Kabutops and the fish first appeared in concept art from Pokémon Red and Green and bears some similarities to the silhouette on the Neo Genesis card Super Rod. | ||
Debut | Fossil Fools |
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This clay artifact that looks like a Pokémon appeared in Fossil Fools and then again over nine-and-a-half years later in Bucking the Treasure Trend!. Professor Oak descibes it as an "ancient Pokémon fossil [or] artifact". It is similar to the Clay Doll Pokémon Baltoy and Claydol and thus may have been based on shakōki-dogū, clay figurines from the Jōmon period of Japanese history. | ||
Debut | Fossil Fools |
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In a sequence where the main characters see their dreams for the future, Misty sees herself chasing an unknown "legendary water Pokémon". The only part of the Pokémon the viewer sees is a giant fin, which is reminiscent to that of the then-unreleased Mega Gyarados. | ||
Debut | Enlighten Up! |
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Unreleased Unown seen on Professor Oak's computer. Due to the introduction of two additional Unown forms in Generation III, some fans have speculated that these may have been very early prototypes for new forms of Unown. Some of the Unown resemble various Greek and Cyrillic letters, namely Я, Ω, Σ, б, Д, ω, Π, and σ. | ||
Debut | Spell of the Unown: Entei |
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An unnamed fairy was seen in Molly Hale's book of Legendary Pokémon in Spell of the Unown: Entei. It has some similarities to Beautifly. | ||
Debut | Spell of the Unown: Entei |
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An unnamed sun was seen in Molly Hale's book of Legendary Pokémon in Spell of the Unown: Entei. The only known Legendary Pokémon related to the sun is Solgaleo. | ||
Debut | Spell of the Unown: Entei |
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An evil monster that attacked the city of Alto Mare was seen in the Japanese version of Pokémon Heroes: Latios & Latias. The storybook-style segment of the movie, which told the story of the origin of the Soul Dew and Alto Mare's ancient history, was completely cut from the dub. | ||
Debut | Pokémon Heroes: Latios & Latias |
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In Malice In Wonderland!, a wild Mismagius created an illusory Rayquaza belonging to the fake Cynthia. When Ash and his friends discovered that it was all just an illusion, it combined itself with its Rayquaza illusion. | ||
Debut | Malice In Wonderland! |
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In Pokémon Origins, an unknown cat-like creature with draconic wings appears briefly in Brock's Gym during the first episode. | ||
Debut | File 1: Red |
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In this episode, Sophocles retells his favorite legend which includes a "Princess Kaguya" who is represented by what looks like a "baby" version of Celesteela. It resembles a bamboo shoot and a swaddled infant. | ||
Debut | Rise and Shine, Starship! |
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In the manga
In The Electric Tale of Pikachu manga
An unidentified baleen whale Pokémon seen in the aquarium in the Cerulean Gym. It has three sets of flippers, coincidentally making it appear very similar to the much-later introduced Wailord. | ||
Debut | Play Misty For Me |
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In the Magical Pokémon Journey manga
Marin (Japanese: マリン Marin) is a Pokémon appearing in the Magical Pokémon Journey manga. It appears only on the title page of The Best Gift Ever. According to commentary by Yumi Tsukirino, Marin was designed by a fan in a "draw Pikachu's friend" contest in Japan held by Ciao magazine (Japanese: ちゃお) and first published in the December 1998 issue of the same magazine in which the cover page is presented in color, and Marin's body is shown to be entirely blue. | ||
Debut | The Best Gift Ever |
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In the Pokémon Adventures manga
Thu-Fi-Zer (サ・ファイ・ザー Thu-Fi-Zer) was the result of a Team Rocket experiment created by fusing the three legendary birds—Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres—in the Pokémon Adventures manga. | ||
Debut | The Winged Legends |
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In the Pokémon Adventures manga the statue in Eterna City is neither Dialga or Palkia but a combination of the two statues. This is a reflection of the statue's appearance in Pokémon Diamond and Pearl and Pokémon Platinum being ambiguously shaped in order to represent a different member of the duo in each game. After seeing the two Pokémon for the first time in Spear Pillar, Pearl theorized that the statue could represent how ancient people saw the two Pokémon fighting inside a distortion of space and time which led them to believe it was one Pokémon. | ||
Debut | Ring Around the Roserade I |
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In the Pokémon Pocket Monsters manga
This unknown Pokémon was captured by Red in The Big Battle In The Viridian Forest!!. It was his second Pokémon, after Clefairy. It is never named and the only other thing known about this Pokémon is that it is supposedly very weak. It escaped from its Poké Ball in the same chapter. Although it is commonly seen as a Bug-type by the fandom, it is most likely a really off-model Diglett as later representations of Diglett by Anakubo seem to confirm. | ||
Debut | The Big Battle In The Viridian Forest!! |
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A Persian with a third eye in the place where its gem would normally be appeared in The Big Battle In The Viridian Forest!!. | ||
Debut | The Big Battle In The Viridian Forest!! |
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Brock is shown with a large Pokémon collection at the Pewter Gym. Many of them are not identifiable as currently known Pokémon. One of them on the top left shelf resembles the unnamed bug-like Pokémon encountered by Red earlier in the manga. | ||
Debut | Bring Down the Powerful Opponent Onix!! |
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Debut | Pokémon Live! |
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