Bulbapedia talk:Project Walkthroughs

About

This Project started late 2005, and the only completed one is the Colosseum one? Is there no interest? File:207MS.gif Gligar 23:15, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Ranch

Are we going to have a walkthrough for Ranch? I'm playing through it at the moment so could write one if you want? --FLAMER! 21:54, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Is there any storyline in Pokemon Ranch?? I dont think so. All that happens is if you deposit 999 pokemon you get to trade a pokemon egg for a mew from hailey.--Usyflad (10) 22:58, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Other Walkthrough Sites

Could we get some info from other sites? I mean whenever you're freely paying a Pokémon game, you don't really think of how to do specifically like a walkthrough. I mean, not copy and paste, but copy and paste THEN we make it in our own words... I think I know a couple walkthrough sites.--DRAGONBEAST^X 18:15, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Why not kill walkthroughs altogether? Nobody comes to 'pedia to get a walkthrough. They go to IGN or CheatCC, or GameFaqs. It's a big waste of time.--RexRacer -talk 18:21, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

You're actually right, with saying that. I mean, why should we even have this project, if nothing's happening here and there's quite a couple of sites that have walkthroughs?--DRAGONBEAST^X 19:31, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

I agree. This project is obsolete and time-consuming. Like RexRacer said before, nobody goes to Bulbapedia for walkthroughs, they go to other sites. --Usyflad 10 23:02, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

The Pokédex Pokémon pages are also on other sites and the routes as well. Anyway, don't we want more people to come to Bulbapedia? Pyles 01:24, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree. Isn't a major goal of Bulbapedia's in general to be as complete as possible anyway? If there were a functioning walkthrough section, it would certainly attract more people. Not everybody uses them, and that's fine, but if people want to contribute in a productive way, then shouldn't they? If nobody else is really motivated about it, I'd be happy to help out. --^KCorp4000 16:11, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm new here and I stumbled upon the Project so I thought I would contribute. I'm doing a Crystal Walkthrough since I have some spare time and no one has started a crystal walkthrough yet.--User:Kolink

um...

shouldnt the pmd2 walkthrough follow the chapters of the game EX: Chapter 1: Lost at Sea --Usyflad10 23:31, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

i put them to chapters but theres still the pages that title: Section 1, Section 2, section 3. could some on delete them cause i dont know how. --Usyflad10 21:40, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

here are the links Appendix:Mystery Dungeon 2 walkthrough/Section 1, Appendix:Mystery Dungeon 2 walkthrough/Section 2, Appendix:Mystery Dungeon 2 walkthrough/Section 3 --Usyflad10 21:43, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

You or Player

in the walkthroughs do i write "you" or "the player"? --Usyflad10 03:08, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

It's hard to say. I've used both interchangeably in the Red & Blue walkthrough, though you could also combine them, linking one to the other (like →you←). I don't think a walkthrough is really an encylopedic entry, so I don't think it would really matter. ^KCorp4000 16:55, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree with KCorp4000. Most walkthroughs use 'you' and it makes more sense that way. Kolink

This is a walkthrough not an article/content, so yes, You is permitted--ForceFire 05:30, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks for clearing that up. --^KCorp4000 05:45, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Might I suggest that it would be better, to keep with the written style of the wiki as a whole, to infer 'you' rather than directly state it? For example: Instead of: "After you defeat Norman, he will give you the Balance Badge" Use: "After defeating Norman, the Balance Badge will be awarded" This way avoids using the second-person, but also avoids removing the reader entirely, as "The player recieves the Balance badge" would do. It's a standard way of writing that can be seen in any professional instructions/step-by-step guide. Personally I think that would better fit with Bulba's standards, and maybe get this project taken more seriously. --Raylax 19:51, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Sapphire

I am new here and was told I could contribute to this. Is there a Sapphire Walkthrough?

I forgot to include my name. I am GaryMaister31.- unsigned comment from GaryMaister31 (talk • contribs)

Here, my friend. Oh... and sign every time you make a comment on a talk page.--Clarky13 22:30, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

There is a to do list link on the main project page. That list tells what walkthroughs are unfinished, in the works, or complete. Kolink

Project Leader?

Who is the project leader of this? I would like to talk to them about the state of this project - whilst I'm aware that a lot of good work has gone into it (I really wouldn't be writing this if I had no interest in the project), I can't help but feel that the non-standard written style employed makes the articles feel out-of-place on this wiki. I'm also aware that a fair few Bulbapedians think that this sort of stuff should be left to GameFAQs and the like, but I disagree. However, I do believe that the project needs seriously overhauling and brought up to the same standard as the rest of the Wiki. See my suggestion further up on this talk page under "You or Player?" for the sort of stuff I'm talking about. Please don't think I'm just some random newbie with barely a userpage to his name and an over-active trolling gland. I really do believe that this is a brilliant project, but one currently with several faults with style and organisation, which I would like very much to help fix if the project members are willing to consider it --Raylax 20:07, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

That's a good question. I agree with you, I'm happy that more people are getting involved, but I think we should have some agreed-upon format. I've worked on the walkthroughs for Red/Blue & Gold/Silver, and have generally kept the same format throughout. But there are enough styles at work here that some people may find them too cluttered and hard to read. Sher-e-Bengal is the leader of our parent project (Project Games) if that helps. As far as I know, we don't have a designated leader here... --^KCorp4000 18:25, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

I personally think that the walkthroughs here should have an instructional written style, although I'm not sure how well that would go down since (it would seem, at least) it would mean rewriting every article. And making them considerably less interesting to read and write. I can see the appeal of the more personal colloquial written style, but it seems to grate somewhat with Bulba's style and they feel out-of-place. If there is no real project leader for this, can I suggest that the members elect one? I suspect that may be a key problem with the lack of organisation here. --Raylax 20:50, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Despite the lacking of a Project Leader at the moment, admins would be happy to discuss the problem and set ground rules... --^Psychic_Rider^☮ 20:52, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Elections wouldn't be a bad idea. With or without a leader, the project certainly needs some continuity between articles. --^KCorp4000 10:57, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Has anyone given any more thought to an election? If we could establish a hierarchy, then we could consider standardizing the articles. Without an agreed-upon method, the collective pages are chaos. --^KCorp4000 15:23, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Ranger

There should be a walkthrough for Pokémon ranger--Combee123 (tAlk) 23:45, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

There is one, though it hasn't been edited substantially since January. There just wasn't a link on the to-do page. --^KCorp4000 16:27, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Logo

The current logo should be changed into something that is actually related to the project. Here are two of my suggestions. File:Possible future project walkthroughs logo.pngFile:Possible futue project walkthroughs logo 2.png --Combee123 (tAlk) 07:56, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

I quite like the second one.Alsabeehaazoooz 23:33, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually, never mind. I've got a better idea on what we could do with those two pictures--Combee123 (tAlk) 19:55, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

The logo isn't changing. End of story ^Maverick_Nate 20:33, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Just wondering

why is the username at the top bold? Is it because the user is the project leader? Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 16:14, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

I think Combee123 used to be the leaderAlsabeehaazoooz 04:23, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

He wasn't, he just made an account this October.--♫Green♫ギャラドス♫Talk♫ 04:38, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

There is no leader for this project. User142 created this project.--ForceFire 04:41, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm fairly sure it was just a mistake he made, because Maverick Nate changed it soon after.--♫Green♫ギャラドス♫Talk♫ 04:42, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Current State of this Project

Well, I couldn't help notice what a mess this project is and how there is no project leader to guide things through. Are people still currently working on this or is it now just obsolete? I think some kind of definite decision should be made so people are who are still contributing aren't wasting their efforts. Since this project seems so huge and given the different amount of games being covered, maybe people should split up into teams for each game to keep it up to standards? On the subject of standards, if there is a project leader, maybe some new standards should be placed to keep things more organized.--Jello 22:47, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

I don't think there is a project leader, but this project is not obsolete. Tyler53841 does the most, and if we are to recruit a leader, it shold be him. The standards should be made, however, as some of the pages are lacking, and could have better grammar and better follow the Bulbapedia:Manual of Style. How the crap is this going to be split into teams??? Of course there's a lot of games, but you don't see Project Games fussing about it. It's not really logical to be split into teams, and there isn't anything wrong with a lot of contributors, as everyone who does a little counts. That's the way Bulbapedia works. --Smartkidhen 23:06, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

I agree, this project is neglected and somewhat of a mess. The Diamond and Pearl walkthrough is not even like a third of the way done and we're seeing HGSS released in the U.S. this March. I was improving some of the HGSS walkthroughs and in some of them, there wasn't even a structure; the headers were just formatted as normal text. I don't think enough people know about this project to actually improve or write new sections. People mostly focus on the games (encyclopedic), anime, TCG, manga, and the likes. I am also not liking the non-encyclopedic language used in these articles: e.g. in a HGSS article, it referred to Prof. Elm as a geezer. I wouldn't consider that formal language, would you? --DialgaRULES_{(contrib es)} 23:14, 3 January 2010 (UTC)