Bulbapedia talk:Project Manga/Archive 1

Special sub-project

After much searching on my part on some seedier parts of the internets, I've found a site that contains all of the Special chapters. This site is Manga Fox which also contains many other manga for your possible enjoyment (it is clean and I have never exprienced a pop-up from the site while running AVG, Norton, and a simple generic firewall, although there are many ads that annoy). Easiest way to get to it is to Google it, then follow a drop down menu to Pokemon Adventures. I feel we need to rally and fix up all of the Special articles, which are in shoddy states at the moment. People who are good editors can get pictures pretty cleanly as well. I therefore propose that we create a Special special project (ha) and try and update all of the info on the site. Should be intresting Aura-Knight 01:27, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

We all know that the Special pages need work, I started at the beginning and am reading my way up to the chapters without pages. If you hadn't noticed, there is work on these pages: for example, I have personally made PS001-PS013 better so far, and plan to continue once the TCG is under control. And, all of the manga sections are in "shoddy states" at the moment, there is no need to create a subpage when this project already covers all bases. Singling out Pokémon Special is unfair when all the other mangas need coverage as well and are in worse condition than Pokémon Special! ^Moldy_Orange 01:33, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Fair point, just wanted to get out the site (not advertising for it by the way) because a lot of people wanted to read the manga and figured, "Hey, if they're reading it, they can edit in some of the info and kill two birds with one stone." And I figured if enough people did this on a regular basis, might as well form a sub-project out of it anyway. I also noticed your work and appreciated it, I was reading all of it then going back to work on the pages. Aura-Knight 01:42, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

I just don't see the need for a seperate project that would do the exact same thing that this one already does. ^Moldy_Orange 01:44, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Ditto and what we need is more people to help cause only like 3/5 users of the Project actually help.--☆Coolピカチュウ! 02:57, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

I would Like to join

I would like to join the project Manga and help make it better and can give synopis and characters for some of the specials but I can't find the pictures.

The Grunt with the butt, should he have his own article?

Discussion on the "Galactic Grunt" talk page. --Sato 12:15, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Green and Blue

Wasnt it decided that Blue is Gary in english and Green is Leaf, so they should be named that, not their japaneese names, since this is an english wikipedia, not a japaneese wiki? I find them very misleading. That is the reason everybody gets their names confused. --Blake 00:23, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

No I prefer to use Japanese the English screws it up.--☆Coolピカチュウ! 00:25, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

I still think it should be switched. I just searched "Green"(leaf) and got sent to "Blue"(Gary)... Why should we change to the opposite way just because "you prefer it that way"? I mean you are the leader of the project, but come on! --Blake 00:21, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

See talk:blue (Special) for more arguments... this ought to be in the one place... — THE TROM — 00:25, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I wasnt sure if people patroled both places. --Blake 00:40, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Movie12?

If you dont mind...i am willing to fill the synopsis of the movie12..if you could let me..i will not make a move without your permission....seriously"☆AngelGuardian☆" 10:30, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

PokéSpecial chapter article screenshots

I'm just curious as to what "standard" the images uploaded for the PS chapter articles should be. I've managed to grab my other copies from my old house, so I should be able to start filling in those red links. However the only way I can really get some of the images from them is by taking pictures of the book itself, since I don't own a scanner. TheChrisD ^{Rants•Edits} 09:43, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Scanned would be very nice. But if you do decide to upload them my other ways and it comes out bad, just be sure to add {{bad picture}} incase. And I prefer to be PS___.png (or jpg) depending on quality. --☆Coolピカチュウ! 09:45, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Moves

On the Pokémon pages (Poli) are the moves meant to be sorted in any particular order, because it seems to me it should go in order of appearance, and on the actual pages for the moves, should "In the Manga" be added or not?--Spriteit 07:37, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes I recommend that the moves be in order of appearance. As for the moves I'm thinking about if it should or shouldn't be in it. --☆Coolピカチュウ! 07:55, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

So is that they go in, or is it a "let me think"? Sarcasm is hard to detect on the net.--Spriteit 07:59, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

It's a "let me think" as I said in my last post. --☆Coolピカチュウ! 08:12, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Your confusion sense was correct. --Spriteit 08:15, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, if the articles on them are being written like the anime character's Pokemon which generally have move, why not here. If anything, at least it makes the articles look like they have more content...

*starts digging back through to find complete movesets* TheChrisD ^{Rants•Edits} 14:43, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree, but I've just started the manga, that's why I asked. Especially for the attack pages, I figure, I'm reading them, might as well grab them whilst I'm there.--Spriteit 07:55, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Whoops, I think I may have misread the OP. On the Pokémon pages, yes sort by first appearance. But I don't think that they're notable enough to warrant adding onto the move pages themselves. TheChrisD ^{Rants•Edits} 14:26, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't see why not, or, they could be merged into the anime template, just for the description? --Spriteit 02:06, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

I decided it's going to be no. Because the manga is in Black and White, which is just bland unlike the games and anime. But unless a higher up decides to add it in it's going to be no.--☆Coolピカチュウ! 02:30, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

DPA templates?

I created a Hareta's Pokémon template. looks like this:

Hareta's Pokémon
In rotation:	Empoleon	Luxray	Misdreavus	Onix	Lucario	Regigigas
	Kadabra	Minun
Status unknown:	Geodude	Zubat	Bonsly	Chingling
Temporary:	Deoxys	Shaymin	Giratina

it that ok? SHould I create more templates for, you know, other manga ppl? ---> ²²³_david 11:30, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Odd that is was not been created before. --☆Coolピカチュウ! 20:23, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

well, do we need one? ---> ²²³_david 05:30, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Pokémon listings

Hey manga dudes... Just a thought: Trom created {{trainerpkmn}} for me for the anime articled originally, but you guys can use them for manga sections as well... They would make the manga sections of many characters much better. --electAbuzzzz 11:15, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I had a look and it probably will make the on hand sections of the characters better. I just hope that we have a half-decent picture of all their Pokémon though... TheChrisD ^{Rants•Edits} 16:35, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Some people have the mangas and can get scans. Anyway, the template works without images, too. --electAbuzzzz 17:19, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Special vs Adventures

Discussion's been getting a little... heated over on whatcha-ma-call-her's talk page about the whole PokéSpecial naming scheme on the wiki. While I personally don't give much of a crap about whether all the articles and such are named based on Special or Adventures, it's obvious a lot of people do.

So, to at least try to establish some sort of consensus, can those of us who are adamant that the naming scheme remain based on Special bring forth some argument to keep it as such, other than "It's too much work". I'd gladly go around and change everything, at least once I get back from my holidays.

Also, a list of what would need to be changed and whether or not a bot would be capable of doing so would be nice as well :)

TheChrisD ^{Rants•Edits} 16:27, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

As TTE pointed out "Special is special, so it's staying at Special." no moving nothing else case closed. --☆Coolピカチュウ! 21:07, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Additionally, I highly doubt very many of the sysops and manga experts would even give serious consideration to the issue unless evidence proves to be anything other than LaprasBoi vs. Bulbapedia. My 2¢: LaprasBoi is outnumbered. --Shiningpikablu252 21:15, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

So... What exactly makes Special special? Why does it have different treatment to EVERY OTHER ASPECT of the franchise? Why should we have certain characters going by their Japanese names when every other aspect of the franchise uses terms from the English version? It's not like these are things that have no English equivalent or even one of those rare things that is the same in both languages, they distinctly have official English terminology, which considering the status of everything else on the wiki should be used. --Sato 02:28, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, Special alone isn't special. PiPiPi is special. The fact that these manga are more uncommon outside of Japan and are more or less eclipsed by the show about an idiot and his rat are to blame. Plus, there's the little fact that we've had them at Special ever since... forever. Even after our "English = better" ruling back in '05. We've not moved the episodes to their English titles, because it's better as it is in the epicode format, even though that format is only used in Japan. Special is a very special case because of the whole Green/Blue thing. Point is, because Special is Tajiri's intent, and it came Red, Green, Blue, Yellow not Red, Blue, screw off, Yellow.

Plus, hey, Danerina's at her Japanese name, despite the fact that she had no nickname in English. If anything her page would put her at Bulbasaur (MPJ). TTEchidna 02:41, 30 July 2009 (UTC)