Bulbapedia talk:Advertising

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Bulbabot?!

... I can't be the only one who thinks it's silly that our resident bot is not only allowed to vote in this, but has the most powerful vote of all. Zhen, did you give it AI when we weren't looking? D: --Pie ~ 22:58, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Bulbabot will one day assimilate us all... TTEbot 01:23, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
We can decide how to delegate its vote at a later point - whether to give it to Archaic (who is counted as a regular user in this poll), or something else. Of course, seeing as how most of the BulbaBot edits are due to my programs, I suppose I could just have its voting rights reassigned to me, for a total of 17... Anyway, essentially, if need be, we can use it as a tiebreaker. - 振霖T 05:30, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Tiebreaker sounds good, as does giving it to Archaic. It'd really only matter if twelve votes would make or break one side... which doesn't seem to really be the case so far. TTEbot 05:51, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Reasoning

I'm not a fan of advertisements in general, and there's quite a lot of good points against monetizing a community effort. But at the same time, if nobody can afford to keep these servers up and running, there is no community. I'm all for keeping this site around; a few advertisements on the sidebar aren't going to conflict with my editing (GuildWiki, another game-based wiki, uses a few non-obtrusive ads on the side to keep the servers up and running with no problems for anyone). So long as the money earned is going towards keeping this site running, and not going into someone's pocket, I say it's a noble cause. -- Jioruji Derako.> 12:46, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

P.S.: The example I gave currently has some ads up that GuildWiki actually don't want there, but that's already being fixed, hehe...

I understand what you're saying about the money issue and the servers, but have you noticed advertisements lately? Everywhere you go, they're dirty and obstructive, particularly in the case of celebrity videos and dating sites. I for one don't want that kind of influence here, because this and other related Wikis like the original Wikipedia are basically the last place this kind of garbage hasn't filtered through, and I (hopefully with the support of others too) would like to keep it that way. I admit, ads for sites like Google aren't bad, but I'm not sure exactly how much control one can have over what ads are shown here and which aren't (depending on the deal or whatever, I suppose). I suggest we get in touch with Nintendo and work out a deal - maybe we could advertise some of their merchandise for some retribution, enough maybe to pay for the servers and any other expenses. I'm sure we're already in some sort of collaboration with them, seeing as we would've gotten sued for copyright infringement long ago if we weren't... Kochdude388 16:34, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Google AdSense's ads are based primarily on the content on the page. Most of the stuff that would be appearing would be stuff like "Pokémon merchandise" and the like. Unless some vandal goes and blanks the page and replaces it with something inappropriate, the chances of something risqué coming up are slim to none.
The few ads that Nintendo has on its page are banner ads--which as we all know are considerably more flashy and annoying than AdSense. Plus, the closest thing on Nintendo's page to getting any type of financial help is a sponsorship, and all of Nintendo's sponsorships are approved by a third party, not Nintendo itself. If Nintendo was a sponsor, they could also apply financial pressure to remove information on the site that they didn't like (not-officially-revealed Pokés like Darkrai, anyone?). In short, very, very risky. I agree with Jioruji Derako, as long as it's all going towards site maintenance, I have no qualms about a few ads. -PsychoYoshi 18:47, 10 July 2007 (UTC)