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Please use the [[:Category:link templates|link templates]]. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 11:52, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
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Bulbapedia editors and admins are [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=36026 accusing] the [[Pokemon:]] wikia of violating their license by adding content without attribution (Bulbapedia uses a [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/ Creative Commons BY-NC-SA] license,[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:About], and they're accusing Wikia of violating the Attribution and Non-commercial clauses). From what I gather, while they're not accusing the admins of violating the license personally, they accuse the admins of not helping when copyvios were [http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/68.45.246.90 removed].
   
Go [[Bulbapedia:Disambiguation poll|here]]. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 16:08, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
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One page of note is the [http://pokemon.wikia.com/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_Platinum&action=history Pokémon Platinum page (history)], which, by the edit summaries, makes it seem as if an admin ([[pokemon:User:Charitwo|User:Charitwo]] is actively reverting all attempts at removing the violations, for the benefit of the Wikicity. It also looks as if another admin ([[pokemon:User:Ciencia Al Poder]]) rewrote content in an attempt to get around the plagiarism claim (one of the most egregious being "Map Changes" -> "Changes in the Map").[http://pokemon.wikia.com/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_Platinum&diff=20579&oldid=20565]
   
== [[Aura's Lucario ("PCG-P" Promo 92)]] ==
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There also seems to be some sort of censorship going on in the Wikia, as I found a user with obvious connections to Bulbapedia with no contributions[http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bulbagarden] and a block on the log[http://pokemon.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=&user=&page=User%3ABulbagarden&year=&month=-1].
   
It's been long since decided that a calculation like that on the Bone Rush attack is not notable for the article. Do we state that {{TCG ID|Fossil|Geodude|47}} from {{TCG|Fossil}}'s average attack damage is 10 in a separate section? No, we don't, because attack calculations are not notable unless they have a major impact on the game (such as a [[Sneasel (Neo Genesis 25)|format ban]]). The attack on the Lucario in question is very similar, only with a higher base damage. If we were to keep the section you've been insistent on adding onto this card article, we'd have to add that section onto ALL cards with damaging attacks and state their average damages. If we were to put down that {{TCG ID|EX Unseen Forces|Wooper|79}} from {{TCG|EX Unseen Forces}} had an average damage of 10 for its first attack and 20 for its second in a completely separate section, that would make things confusing indeed.
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This issue has been the motive behind vandalism of the wikia[http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Copyright_Protector][http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bulbapediaguy][http://pokemon.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Ph34rm3][http://pokemon.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=&user=&page=User%3ARoflfail&year=&month=-1], which one Bulbapedia editor takes the credit for.[http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=791110&postcount=3] (Note: I don't know what edits have been deleted, due to either censorship or actual vandalism.)
   
Case in point: That section you're insistent on adding is completely unnecessary. Please don't put that section back onto that article or any other article, or else you may find yourself on the outside looking in. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:29, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
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Dialogues I found:
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#http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Charitwo#Bulbapedia
== Shhh ==
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#http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Charitwo#Copywritten_images
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#[http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Charitwo#Fun. http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Charitwo#Fun.]
Shhh, everyone's sleeping...--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|<font color="brown"><small>☆</small></font>]][[User:Tavisource|<font color="teal">Tavis</font>]][[User talk:Tavisource|<font color="gray"><small>ource</small></font>]] 06:25, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
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#http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Ciencia_Al_Poder#Copyright
:I'm sure the admins know what they're doing; I'm not sure where, but if you would like a page regarding things like that, I can't stop you...go ahead...add me to the support list.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|<font color="brown"><small>☆</small></font>]][[User:Tavisource|<font color="teal">Tavis</font>]][[User talk:Tavisource|<font color="gray"><small>ource</small></font>]] 05:19, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
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#http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Evkl
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*Disclaimer: I edit Wikipedia, Bulbapedia, and Wikia (not Pokemon.wikia). --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 07:47, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
== Links ==
 
 
done. was going to do them myself yesterday but something came up. thanks for doing them. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 05:20, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 
:Actually, they were [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ATTEchidna&diff=521494&oldid=521474 done six days ago]. I just needed an admin to edit them in, since they were protected. Thanks. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 05:47, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 
 
== pokemon cloning ==
 
 
you didn't read what I responded... but it's in my talk page anyways... see? we are not a cheat guide. '''[[User:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#008800">h</span><span style="color:#000000">fc</span>]][[User talk:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#000000">2</span><span style="color:#008800">X</span>]]''' 00:51, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 
 
:Why don't you show me where all these other people agreed that we should describe the precise method of cloning? --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 03:55, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 
 
== Rayquaza # Trivia ==
 
Thanks for Rewording, [[User:DragonTamer|DragonTamer]] 04:43, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 
 
== User Talk ==
 
 
i dont understand what you mean. you want edits to other peoples user talk pages, like im doing right now, to be disallowed? -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 01:14, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 
:Well, the current wording implies that you can edit the userpages of others with their permission, and doesn't exclude the main user page. That has nothing to do with talk pages. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 01:16, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 
::User talk pages are used to communicate with other users. We don't need to state that in any policy; it's what they're for. --[[User:Martonimos|((<font color="#008000">Marton</font>]] [[User talk:Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">imos</font>))]] 01:19, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 
:::i think it was a mis-communication on his part is all. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 01:25, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 
 
== Optimatium's Nomination ==
 
 
Just to set the record straight, he doesn't think he's quite qualified for the job, but he does not oppose the nomination. If you want to change your vote, now would be a good time. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 22:26, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 

Revision as of 07:47, 20 April 2009

Bulbapedia editors and admins are accusing the Pokemon: wikia of violating their license by adding content without attribution (Bulbapedia uses a Creative Commons BY-NC-SA license,[1], and they're accusing Wikia of violating the Attribution and Non-commercial clauses). From what I gather, while they're not accusing the admins of violating the license personally, they accuse the admins of not helping when copyvios were removed.

One page of note is the Pokémon Platinum page (history), which, by the edit summaries, makes it seem as if an admin (User:Charitwo is actively reverting all attempts at removing the violations, for the benefit of the Wikicity. It also looks as if another admin (pokemon:User:Ciencia Al Poder) rewrote content in an attempt to get around the plagiarism claim (one of the most egregious being "Map Changes" -> "Changes in the Map").[2]

There also seems to be some sort of censorship going on in the Wikia, as I found a user with obvious connections to Bulbapedia with no contributions[3] and a block on the log[4].

This issue has been the motive behind vandalism of the wikia[5][6][7][8], which one Bulbapedia editor takes the credit for.[9] (Note: I don't know what edits have been deleted, due to either censorship or actual vandalism.)

Dialogues I found:

  1. http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Charitwo#Bulbapedia
  2. http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Charitwo#Copywritten_images
  3. http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Charitwo#Fun.
  4. http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Ciencia_Al_Poder#Copyright
  5. http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Evkl
  • Disclaimer: I edit Wikipedia, Bulbapedia, and Wikia (not Pokemon.wikia). --Raijinili 07:47, 20 April 2009 (UTC)