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:::You need to STOP treating this place as your personal plaything... You don't have the privilege to decide what goes and what doesn't here, so stop acting like you do... You were banned in the archives for shit like this, and I'm waiting to see you banned in here as well, as it's just a matter of time before you do...--[[User:ShallowShaddoll|ShallowShaddoll]] ([[User talk:ShallowShaddoll|talk]]) 13:51, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
:::You need to STOP treating this place as your personal plaything... You don't have the privilege to decide what goes and what doesn't here, so stop acting like you do... You were banned in the archives for shit like this, and I'm waiting to see you banned in here as well, as it's just a matter of time before you do...--[[User:ShallowShaddoll|ShallowShaddoll]] ([[User talk:ShallowShaddoll|talk]]) 13:51, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
::::A warning for the moment: we ''will'' stay away from personal attacks here. Please and thank you. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:02, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
::::A warning for the moment: we ''will'' stay away from personal attacks here. Please and thank you. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:02, 20 July 2017 UTC
::::: I have to reiterate my agreement, PlayerKing just likes arguing and disagreeing and reverting- if anybody else went around reverting edits like you did they would get told off but obviously this guy has some sort of dirt on the admins. Let's look at Shell Trap, PlayerKing actually argued in favour of the move- contrary to his stance on all of that of these disagreements and contradicting his previously stated ethos on the matter- but it was kept of the page (I am aware that I presented the counter argument back then but I only did it to show PlayerKing how annoying it is) I knew it was shell trap, we all knew it was shell trap but we couldn't put it until today. So we've actually been wrong for months when in reality- it was obvious. It just makes us look stupid when we say 'none of Marowack's' moves are known when it very clearly used moves. For those of us living in the real world, Marowack's moves are at least Flame Wheel and Shadiw bone- I suppose Bonemerang could be argued (though the one arguing is just being awkward for the sake of being awkward) and the head move- for the record it was a move, when a Pokémon tucks its limbs in like that and there is a tell-tale affect on the head, it is the move. Though you could call it Headbutt or Head Smash, so in that case we can just do as we did with Snivy's Leaf Storm and Fletchling's Steel Wing and just wait- that's a luxury with main cast Pokémon, but that one Pangoro in XY071, for example, will never have that chance. I understand the effort not to put incorrect information on the pages, but in its place we are just putting no information- sorry but will someone actually look at the moves pages? Hundreds of moves are listed without being explicitly stated and maybe being a bit ambiguous- nobody cared before and it's only PlayerKing, and a few minor league admins that fuel his tyranny, that care now. The preview showed Totem Lurantis using Petal Blizzard but I just know we won't be allowed to document it because 'it might be Petal Dance.' I will not let this go [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 20:53, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

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BW 008?

Where is you found this?--Martianmister 13:10, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if you know or not...

...being new and all, but around the 'pedia here, we have a policy about adding things to episode summary pages, that can be summed up in 5 words: WAIT UNTIL THE EPISODE AIRS. It helps keep speculation down, and also helps keep edit wars down, which are people constantly adding stuff that then needs to be removed. I am not trying to be mean here, so I apologize if that is the way I am coming off. I am just trying to help you out here. If you have any questions, feel free to drop me a line on my talkpage. --JediKnightDTV 13:58, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Looks like someone already warned you about this. Please, do not add main events till the episode airs. One more thing, please use the preview button instead of making a bunch of edits. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 12:23, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Please listen and follow the Bulbapedia's policies. Do not add anything in the main event till the episode airs otherwise you might get a block. Thank you ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 12:12, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
I must add a request as well: the next time you create an episode article, instead of copying/pasting from the last article please use the {{New episode}} template with the following code: {{subst:New episode|Episode number|Japanese Title|Translated Japanese Title}}. Thank you. Quagbert 02:57, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Me: Playerking95

But it is Iris's it was let out of her Pokeball.


Please do not what you did on M13 again. We are not having the page M14 until the title is confirmed. If you do it again, it can get you blocked. Thanks! --CoolPikachu! 08:41, 29 November 2010 (UTC)


Can you explain your this edit please? Thank you. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 07:25, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Do not make such unconstructive edits without even mentioning a proper reason, otherwise you might get into trouble. Please, take care of it next time. Thank you. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 07:29, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Do not remove the talk page comments/messages. Thank you ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 07:39, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

"Do not remove the talk page comments/messages."

I don't remember doing that.- unsigned comment from Playerking95 (talkcontribs)

*Cough*. Just for the future reference, if you want a page to be deleted then blanking it is not the solution. Just add "{{delete}}" to the top of the article and admins will take care of it.
Regarding the talk page comments, on all talk pages, write ~~~~ or click on button_sig.png button after every post. This automatically generates your signature, and lets everyone know who has written what, and when. Thanks, please remember these things in future.♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 07:50, 21 January 2011 (UTC)


Japanese article on Wikipedia. カベルネ = Cabernet. --ケンジガール 11:50, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

And Cilan's Japanese name is Dent. Don't change Japanese names if you don't know romanization system, PureiyākinguNaintifaibu.----無限の知性DENNOUZENSHI 11:33, 12 March 2011 (UTC)


Where did you get the information for the English title? Masatoshitalk 22:39, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

MSN TV would be the answer. Remember, sometimes the link doesn't work but it gets fixed soon. ♫♪エイディニズ♪♫ 02:26, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Preview button

Please use the preview button instead of making multiple edits in a short period of time otherwise it will cause a lot of additional load on server. Kindly take care of it next time, thanks. ♫♪エイディニズ♪♫ 13:44, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Please use it, it's right next to the "Safe Page" button or you can hit alt-p instead. Heck I just used it. Have a nice day. Truthseeker4449 11:29, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

List of Best Wishes series episodes

I am almost positive that these are not confirmed, but if they are, could you please post a link on your talk page, please? :--SuperAipom7 (Questions?) 00:25, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


I really want to belief these 3 will be in the episode :D So can I see what ever evidence you have for Bianca, Carbenet and Kenyan being in this episode ? Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 18:17, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Episode articles

Please do not copy-paste while creating new episode articles and use the appropriate template instead. As Quagbert reminded you earlier, use {{New episode}} template by filling the parameters in this manner: {{subst:New episode|Episode number|Japanese Title|Translated Japanese Title}}. Please do not forget this in the future. Thanks, have a nice day. ♫♪エイディニズ♪♫ 14:44, 5 July 2011 (UTC)


Could you perhaps provide a source for this episode title? Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 09:45, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Episode article editing while airing

We would prefer it if you do not edit a page while the episode is still airing. If you ddo that, it'll just have to be edited again later resulting in multiple saves.

Also, when you do edit them, please remember to change everything, not just to edit what Pokémon appeared and then leave it alone. There is still the matter of the tag been changed from Future episode to Undubbed episode and changing "this episode is scheduled to air" to "this episode first aired".

Please remember this for the future. Thanks. --ケンジガール 10:39, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

The "Preview" Button

Hello Playerking, you've been already informed about the preview button. Instead of making a bunch of edits on the same article, please use the "Preview button" to see the changes and when you feel that you're done with the article, "save" it. Here, you've made "5" edits in a row which also clogs the "RC". So, kindly don't forget to use it in the future. Thank you, have a nice day. ♫♪エイディニズ♪♫ 12:23, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Episode titles

Hey, when you edit episode articles to add in dub titles, please be sure to add the new title(s) in all applicable areas on the page, not just the infobox. Thanks. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 05:47, 5 October 2011 (UTC)


Nothing gets solved when you make edits without explaining why you made them. You have had this issue before. You need to use the edit summary box to explain what you are doing and why.

As for BW053, this scan shows that the Maractus episode airs on October 27th. That would make it BW054. That is of course that you have something that shows that the Iris/Deino episode will not air on October 20th. If you do, please show it to me and I will make the changes accordingly. And in the future, please use the edit summary box. Thank you. --ケンジガール 02:56, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit summaries

As Kenji-girl said above, please write something on the edit summary box when you are reverting someone else's edit or adding info with an unobvious source. Especially reverting something needs always a reason.--Den Zen 15:54, 21 October 2011 (UTC)


Please do not start edit warring when it comes to editing. If you've an information with a valid source or any proof to support your edits then you can provide its link in the "edit summary" box so that users can see whether it's a factual info or not. And if anyone reverts your edit then try to resolve it by discussing it on the respective user's or article's talk page rather than involving yourself into an edit war. Please take care of it next time. Thank you, have a nice day ahead. ♫♪エイディニズ♪♫ 18:19, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Can you please at least discuss it on the talk page of the respective article or with a staff member instead of removing all the airing dates or use the edit summary box? I am sorry but you have been warned a lot of times in the past and if you continue to ignore all the warnings, you might get a block. I would suggest you to go through your talk page messages once again, just ignoring them won't be a favor to anyone. Thank you, have a nice day ahead. ♫♪ エイディニズ ♪♫ 05:48, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Citing websites

This is long overdue but please do not openly cite fansites such as Serebii.net and their respective forums. Their info is their own, and we need to get our information our own way. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 16:27, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

The Preview Button

Instead of editing a page several times in a row, try using the preview button to make sure your edit looks the way you want it to. It's right next to the Save Changes button... Please try it out, so as not to clog up the Recent Changes. Thanks! -- ✔Poké.geek✔ 15:16, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

See this Special:Contributions/Playerking95 (landorus n BW059). -- ✔Poké.geek✔ 15:18, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Inuse pages

Hey, please don't edit pages with the Inuse template. It's incredibly rude for the user who put up the template as they didn't want to be conflicted. Please do not ignore this template again. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 10:18, 19 January 2012 (UTC)


Where did you get the info for BW067, BW068 and BW069? --FinnishPokéFan92 18:59, 14 February 2012 (UTC)


How do you know that "it's a she"? The name is rather masculine and I find it hard to believe that it could just be a coincidence (a Psychic, named Reiji, in Celestial Tower). The summary doesn't mention Reiji's gender and female VA means nothing. --Maxim 14:02, 24 February 2012 (UTC)


While I have no problem with fixing any mistakes, I ask if you could please refrain from jumping in on something someone else is already working on. It's very annoying to recieve constant edit conflicts because someone has jumped in on something you've already been working on for a long time. Please keep this in mind in the future. Thanks. --Pokemaster97 01:06, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Additionally I wanna let you know why I undid your edit. We have always allowed to mentioned if it is a trainer's Pokémon or not. Examples can be found here, here, and here. I don't know why you've made it an agenda to basically undo and or change all of my edits. I've been on Bulbapedia since 2010 and I know the MOS and policies (Because I have taken the time to read them) and no offense, but if you don't reply to your talk messages (which it seems you almost never do) I have no way of understanding what your view is. If you're not going to reply, don't keep undoing my edits and edit warring. It's the policy. Thank you for understanding. --Pokemaster97 02:33, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Sand Tomb Category

It shouldn't be in the category for moves that can target any Pokémon...do you know how to fix this, as that is a leftover from Gen.IV? Thanx.--Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round... 03:27, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

But Sand Tomb does target any Pokémon...--ForceFire 03:44, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Not non-adjacent ones. That's why it should be removed from that category. It doesnt work like Water Pulse, Dragon Pulse, Hurricane and the like. See what I mean?--Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round... 17:19, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

4th Preview button warning

You have edited BW103 15 times over a course of 2 days, that's honestly ridiculous and it is clogging the RC. You have been a member here for over two years and you still not listening to your repeated warnings to use the preview button and combine your edits. If it continues, you'll be moved to a usergroup where you'll be forced to preview your edits before saving. The preview button. Use it please. Thank you. --Pokemaster97 17:11, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Quotation marks

Hey there, I'm just a regular user here, but I wanted to point this out: When adding the English title for an episode to a link to a certain episode, make sure you use these quotation marks at the beginning and the end, like this: ''[[BW093|Goodbye, Junior Cup - Hello Adventure!]]'', so that it will come out like this: Goodbye, Junior Cup - Hello Adventure!, instead of Goodbye, Junior Cup - Hello Adventure!. Thank you! ☼ BlazingFist ☼ 13:33, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for that, it's just that I haven't changed titled like that for over several months or so, so I forgot. Playerking95 (talk) 14:26, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Another thing

Hey there, I wanted to point another thing out: Always use {{un|Cameron}} instead of [[un|Cameron]], otherwise it will come out as a redlink. Thanks! ☼ BlazingFist ☼ 14:32, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

The Preview Button (2)

Please use the Preview Button. We do not need 3 consecutive edits with your name on them, which happen to be in the same section of the page. I am not allowed to warn you since I'm not an admin, but other users, including admins, have brought this up to you about 4 times before. Thanks. サトシ101 (talk) 18:18, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

I didn't see the Pokemon on the monitors and those 3 edits, I assume you mean from the BW111 episode thread weren't all on the same day. Plus, I wasn't sure if Pokemon on monitors count or not and judging by episode BW110, they do. Playerking95 (talk) 06:40, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
Never mind. サトシ101 (talk) 20:39, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Re: Episode articles

Please use {{subst:New episode|ep number|jp. airdate|kanji|translated title}}, when you create episode articles. If you are not sure how to use it, please ask. I'll explain it once again.

Taking BW115 as an example: {{subst:New episode|115|February 28, 2013|急げ!ポケモン湾岸救助隊!!|Hurry Up! The Pokemon Gulf Coast Rescue Squad!!}}. AdynizWanna talk? 10:57, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

BW136 Dare da

Was the Druddigon in Dare da Shiny as the one Clair caught, or was it ordinary Druddigon? Marked +-+-+ (talk) 10:50, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Anime episodes

Hi there. You're probably not aware of this, but when two episodes air on one day, we only start adding info after both episodes have aired. Since XY030 is still airing, I've removed the info you added to the XY029 page for now. ☼ BlazingFist ☼ 10:40, 29 May 2014 (UTC)


What is your source for the info on XY039? --SnorlaxMonster 07:40, 17 July 2014 (UTC)


I've reviewed your recent edits, and determined that you no longer need to preview to save edits. (Since you've been there for 2 years, I will point out that this is actually a setting you can enable under your preferences if you liked it.) However, keep in mind that since you have been there for such a long time, making a large number of consecutive edits to the same page would reflect very poorly on your ability to preview before saving, and is likely to result in you having your power to save without previewing taken away again. --SnorlaxMonster 12:18, 13 August 2014 (UTC)


I was spoken to by G50 via Blazingfist back in April that we shouldn't trust pokemon.com as a source anymore for dub names of characters so I went ahead and changed all instances of Nini back to Nene. The move log for Dolan in that same month even explicitly mentioned so as well. PattyMan 03:10, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Dub titles

Hi, do you happen to have a source for the dub titles of XY062 and XY063? ☼ BlazingFist ☼ 14:28, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes, here it is. http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tv/pok%C3%A9mon-xy/EP018076430064?aid=tvschedule and http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tv/pok%C3%A9mon-xy/EP018076430065?aid=tvschedule Playerking95 (talk) 14:30, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Ah, great, thanks! Next time, it might be handy to place those in the edit summaries. ☼ BlazingFist ☼ 14:31, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Serena's Eevee

If Serena isn't going to catch Eevee, then why did Mad-Paced Getter show Eevee performing with Serena watching her from a distance? Serena's the only one in the group that wants to be a Pokémon Performer and like Pancham before her, Eevee wants to perform. It would not make any sense for a trainer to be seen with a Pokémon that will join the cast and then have that trainer not become the Pokémon's trainer. --PKMNAdventurer (talk) 16:48, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Then why doesn't the opening show it with the other Pokemon on the team? She could just befriend it. I'm not saying she won't capture it, but we don't have enough confirmation to believe that it will. Playerking95 (talk) 03:17, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
Remember when Pancham first appeared in Mega V (Mega Volt)? He wasn't seen with Serena and Fennekin. He was portrayed as a wild Pokémon. The same thing is being done with Eevee. --PKMNAdventurer (talk) 12:45, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
It's not Serena's Eevee until Serena catches it.--ForceFire 13:28, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Interwiki links

Please do not add interwiki links when the articles don't yet exist on the other EP wikis. Thank you, - Kogoro - Talk to me - 08:20, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Dub title (2)

Just for documenting purposes, where did you obtain that last dub title from. We'd like to know so we can source it in the event we need a Bulbanews article on it. --Pokemaster97 04:35, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. The Pokemon section on the Cartoon Network site. Playerking95 (talk) 04:45, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. --Pokemaster97 05:01, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Anime staff categories

Please don't put a category in itself. It's uneccesary to do so as it is already shown what pages are in that category. Thank you! --Abcboy (talk) 13:58, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Again, please don't categorize a category in itself. In the future, just leave out the link to itself. --Abcboy (talk) 08:04, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
Then why did you add those links to this similar page? http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Episodes_storyboarded_and_directed_by_Yoshitaka_Makino Playerking95 (talk) 08:07, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
Not to intrude, but that category you are saying, Playerking95, is both storyboarded and directed by Yoshitaka Makino, so it doesn't categorize itself. --~~ThePokémonFanSince1995~~-- 12:25, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
Before, Category:Episodes directed by Hiroyuki Yamada was in two categories:
The problem isn't that there are categories, but that the category was inside itself. --Abcboy (talk) 14:28, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

XY071 English Title?

How did you find the English Title to XY071? NeonToaster (talk) 20:44, 30 June 2015 (UTC)


Things like "It will reappear in XY091 during the Anistar City Pokémon Showcase." do not appear on the Pokemon's article, only people get that. Also, please stop removing Solar Beam from Ivysaur. It has used the move and thus it belongs there. Thank you.--Rahl (talk) 23:50, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure these pages also get that and it lets people know that it will appear, just like Bulbapedia tells people when characters and Pokemon will appear in the future. And with Solar Beam, It doesn't know it anymore. If it ends up using 8 new moves in the future, will there be a list of 13 moves in that section? No, because that's too much. It only knows four moves now and Solar Beam is not one of them, until proven otherwise. Playerking95 (talk) 23:54, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Have you ever looked at any other page? Every Pokemon has all the moves they have known listed. If Ivysaur ends up using 20 moves than we will show all 20, look at Ash's Charizard or Ursula's Flareon. It is to show what they have used throughout the course of the anime and I know from experience and being told be admins that only the human characters get that information about upcoming experiences, not their Pokemon. --Rahl (talk) 00:01, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, I assumed that the pages where it listed the certain Pokemon that characters have used only listed the four most recent moves, especially since I've seen a lot of Pokemon with only four moves listed. Anyway, regardless if this is the case, it's stupid to still list a move that the Pokemon no longer knows and don't give me the games =/= anime, because the anime is pretty loyal to the Pokemon only knowing four moves rule and lots of other rules that the game has created. Playerking95 (talk) 02:30, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
It has nothing to do with the games. It is really just to show a list of every move they have used throughout the anime. If/when they get their own page is when it is mentioned which moves they currently have.--Rahl (talk) 05:11, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Of course it has to do with the games, because the show is an adaptation of the games. And what's the point of saying known moves, when the Pokemon doesn't know one or some of those moves anymore? Because that would just confuse people as to what moves that Pokemon knows now. Playerking95 (talk) 06:56, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Because those are the moves it has been known to use. The anime=/=games rules doesn't apply to the whole "only uses four moves", that's not in dispute since, like you said, the anime's been consistent with that. But in regards to it still knowing the move, there's a chance that it might still know that move, it has not been proven in the anime that a Pokémon forgets a move, the trainer could just be using one over the other. That's where the anime=/=games rule come in.--ForceFire 07:06, 4 October 2015 (UTC)


Hello, over the past few days, you have been involved in several edit wars that have been largely disruptive to the editing process. As an experienced user, you should know that edit warring is against Bulbapedia's Code of conduct and is unacceptable. Please use the talk pages to settle disputes and once a consensus is made, make edits then, not while the discussion is actively taking place. Due to the severity, you have been blocked for a week. Please keep our policies in mind once you return. Thank you. --Pokemaster97 04:23, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Multiple undos

This may just be me, but I kind of think it's overkill (or something) to undo multiple revisions individually, and I've noticed you doing that a few times in the recent past. If you ask me, it's easier to just undo all of them at once. Often, you may just be able to click on the revision before the first edit you want to undo in the page's history and click "edit this page" from there and save it, but even if there's a "good" edit that came in later, it still shouldn't be too hard to just manually do all the revisions together. And you can just write something appropriate in the edit summary about how what you're doing is an undo/reversion.

...Just a tip, I guess. Cheers. Tiddlywinks (talk) 05:13, 12 October 2015 (UTC)


Could you please stop being stubborn and getting rid of moves Pokémon have used? Just because you can't tell what it is doesn't mean everyone can't. I also noticed you have been blocked for doing this really recently, so could you knock it off. Yes, I understand an admin told you it was okay to remove a few for ambiguity but that doesn't give you permission to get rid of everything that was not specifically stated. It is very obvious what the moves are and it is getting very annoying to watch you continue to mess with them. Multiple different uses have undone what you keep doing, while only you are fighting for it. Take a hint.--Pikablu (talk) 02:51, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

I'm getting rid of moves that Pokemon haven't been confirmed to use, it's as simple as that. And as you said, an admin has agreed to this. So I'll just talk with him again. Playerking95 (talk) 03:24, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
What are you trying to achieve Playerking95? It seems to me like you want a massive edit across all the anime sections of the moves' pages, so you could be some king of hero. You want this massive edit under your belt. You want to be the guy that saved us from the error of our ways. No ones playing ball though, Force Fire had a lapse of judgment with Slash and the Eeveelution moves, he won't change his mind on those because he is as stubborn as a Metapod, but he's not going to let you continue with this Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 15:48, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
I'm only editting those pages because I don't want people to confuse facts with your pure speculations. And Force Fire had no lapse in judgement, he is just being a smart admin who is doing what is best and I don't see him having a lapse in judgement where he sides with your speculations. Playerking95 (talk) 04:33, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Edit Warring

You have been told about this before, do not continually revert edits, discuss them with the user that reverted you or on the talk page of the article. You have been here long enough to know this.--ForceFire 13:53, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Reverting someone's edit after they've reverted you back is also considered edit warring. - PokémonGamer* 19:31, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Old Man Don/Mira

Just wondering, did you get the dub names of Grandpa Dam and Grandma Mila from a close captioning of the Hoopa special/something else? ☼ BlazingFist ☼ 16:36, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Well, no, I just listened to what they said. I heard Bit say Old Man Don quite clearly and that's usually how you spell the name Don. There's a chance it could have been Dom, but Don is a more common name than Dom. As for Mira, it sounds like "My-Rer" but I looked up the name Mira and it the pronunciation can be "My-Rer" as well, so I assumed the dub just changed Mila to Mira. Playerking95 (talk) 03:20, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Playing by ear is forbidden for any reason. --BlisseyandtheAquaJets (talk) 05:40, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Yes, playing by ear is not a good idea at all. You've been here long enough to know that. Especially when you've made mistakes with it before, like with Jingoro's dub name, which you moved to Woodwort but later turned out to be Woodward instead. Please don't play by ear again, unless it's really, really obvious and it's unlikely the name can be spelt differently, but even then think twice before moving. ☼ BlazingFist ☼ 07:06, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Redirect pages

In the future, if you happen to run across a name that was taken by a redirect, you can put the content in the redirect instead of creating a new page. PattyMan 22:10, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Adding to that, never distinguish a page for an anime character by adding anything to the page title that is not the region or the episode they're from. You added "(Ninja)" to distinguish XY099 and XY100's Hanzō from the other Hanzo pages, but we would never use this kind of naming. Especially not in this case, since there's a Hanzō from Pokémon Conquest who is also a ninja. Abcboy already moved it to the correct title, Hanzō (Kalos). Please keep this in mind. ☼ BlazingFist ☼ 12:55, 4 December 2015 (UTC)


Yes, this movie is confirmed. - PokémonGamer* 14:10, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Of course it's been confirmed, but the page has yet to be created, so don't make that edit again. Playerking95 (talk) 14:12, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
Sorry. - PokémonGamer* 14:16, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
The entire point of creating those links was to create the article. So make the article, especially when it IS confirmed. Weedle Mchairybug (talk) 14:22, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
Putting that link won't make the article be created faster. Wait until the page is created and then put the links there, because right now they direct to nothing. Playerking95 (talk) 14:27, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
Why aren't they creating them? Shouldn't they create new articles the second they are announced/revealed? Weedle Mchairybug (talk) 14:51, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
The target M19 has been locked by Force Fire and no admin is aware of this I believe. - PokémonGamer* 14:55, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
It's also probably because there isn't enough information. Also, what Force Fire said, red links aren't evil. They just mean the page hasn't been created yet. It's announced, so it will be created, so we can link to it now. That's what I was thinking when I restored the link to the next movie page. For now, I have it in my userspace. - PokémonGamer* 19:01, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


I wasn't trying to delete it. I was fixing the edit conflict I ran into, which removed what you added. I forgot to re-add it. - PokémonGamer* 10:36, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Poke TV XY101

When I watched the anime, it didn't show Poke TV. Where did you find the image from?-- --Handmaiden 101 (tAlk) 01:18, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

A special dimension where you can see things that remain hidden to the human eye. Nah, I got it from a certain website. Playerking95 (talk) 06:11, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

New episode template

When you create an episode article, you can also use Template:New episode. It will save you a lot of time. It works like this: {{subst:New episode|number|air date|Japanese title|translated title}} For example, for XY104, that would be {{subst:New episode|103|January 21, 2016|オンバットとフラエッテ!風の中のめぐりあい!!|{{tt|Onbat|Noibat}} and {{tt|Flaette|Floette}}! An Encounter in the Wind!!}} Then, in the next edit, you can add in all the rest of the information. That's what I use when I find a new episode title when I create the page. - PokémonGamer* 13:42, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Since this isn't the first time you've been told about this, this will constitute as your final warning. Use the New episode template if you want to make new episode pages. If not, then I'm going to ask you to refrain from making new episode pages.--ForceFire 14:24, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Pokémon Quiz for new episodes

When new episodes air in Japan and I make my edit before you, why do you always change the Pokémon Quiz segments to a Pokémon that doesn't appear in the segment? On XY099, you changed the Pokémon that was actually featured, Venusaur, to Darkrai, and on XY100, you changed Greninja to Venusaur. On the latest episode, you changed the correct Pokémon that appeared in the segment, Toxicroak, to Zygarde. - PokémonGamer* 21:49, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Also, yeah, talk page policy does forbid removing talk page comments, which includes this discussion. This isn't Twitter, so we probably shouldn't be talking about non-Bulbapedia related drama. I just wanted to ask you something Bulbapedia-related, that's all. - PokémonGamer* 20:00, 15 January 2016 (UTC)


Just like the case with Nene's dub name (Nini), if a dub name has only appeared on Pokémon.com, it's not supposed to be changed until it airs. If someone adds a dub name that has only been revealed on Pokémon.com and hasn't aired yet, it should be reverted back, it shouldn't continue being changed on all the other pages where it hasn't been changed yet. At this point in time, it's not relevant because the dub name for Puni-chan (Squishy), as well as the dub title for XY094 (The Explosive Birth of Zygarde!) is under dispute by Bulbapedia staff, however I'm just letting you know for the future. - PokémonGamer* 03:20, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Code of Conduct

This was uncalled for, may I refer you to the Code of Conduct? Because that edit summary was in breach of it. And honestly, that kind of behavior is rather arrogant. If you want someone to improve their edits, tell them how, don't just place "oy" in every edit summary you make to every user. Heck, I'm not even sure if you'll read this since you barely respond to any of your talk page messages. Again, if you don't like that a user is making mistakes and want them to improve, go to them and give them advice, don't attack them.--ForceFire 15:06, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Also, it's fine to wait until the episode has reached the "to be continued" card. Ataro said on a user's talk page to wait until the credits, then it can be edited. The Poké TV comes after the credits. So stop telling me to wait until the Poké TV, and let's stop fighting over which point in the episode is the true ending. - PokémonGamer* 10:35, 4 February 2016 (UTC)::The episode had not finished airing, so it's best that you don't do that again. Playerking95 (talk) 10:39, 4 February 2016 (UTC)


Do you think you could upload the pics for it?-- --Handmaiden 101 (tAlk) 16:03, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Quality over Quantity

This page, what is this? It's only one sentence, do you think that's really enough to make it notable? Yes, he's a character of the day, but that doesn't mean you can just make a one sentence page out of it. Quality over Quantity, actually make an effort to put actual content in it, or don't bother making them at all.--ForceFire 12:16, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Adding to that, don't add characters to the CotD page if there are no images available yet. It just looks bad when there's a redlink instead of an image. ☼ BlazingFist ☼ 17:00, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

VA sources

You're an accomplished enough editor here that you should know to cite a credible source when adding a credit for a voice actor. (If not, now you do.) If you have a source for your recent edit to Bill Rogers's page, please say it now. And in the future, remember to cite a source if you're going to add a credit. Tiddlywinks (talk) 03:38, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

I got it from IMDB, which I assumed only he could edit and I've seen people use that as evidence in the past. Sorry if it's not a reliable source, but as I've said, I was sure that it was. Playerking95 (talk) 04:30, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
IMDB is roughly like us.
The main thing for you to take away from this, though, is if you ever add a VA credit here, cite a source. This leaves a verifiable trail for any future need. (And also helps us, or anyone who sees the edit, be able to quickly gauge its credibility without having to come to your talk page and ask you for it.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 04:53, 20 March 2016 (UTC)


Just a heads up, a word like "of" is never capitalized in episode titles on Bulbapedia, even if the source does capitalize it. It's a stylistic choice mostly. Please keep this in mind for the future, it saves a lot of double edits. ☼ BlazingFist ☼ 08:09, 29 March 2016 (UTC)


Yes, there's a difference between ordering a Pokemon to use the attack "Supersonic" and just commanding it to use ultrasonic waves in general. The former is an actual attack Noibat can use, whereas the latter isn't specifically one. (BillytheWarriorT (talk) 02:13, 17 April 2016 (UTC)BillytheWarriorT)

Episode staff source

I was looking at XY116 a bit, and I couldn't seem to find any official source for the staff information that you added a little while back. Can you tell me what your source is for the information you added and why it should be trusted (if it should)? Tiddlywinks (talk) 22:27, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

2ch. That's where they all come from and they're usually posted with source images around the same or a day-several days later. I wouldn't post fake staff credits. Playerking95 (talk) 04:36, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Can you show me an example of a "source image" for XY116? Or, if you can't find where that was easily, perhaps whatever was most recent? (And a link to the 2ch thread/whatever as well where you actually got the info.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 04:42, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
http://imgur.com/lPe7TuY http://imgur.com/6FkbvTk http://imgur.com/7mJmyB6 Playerking95 (talk) 05:28, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
I guess that's something like a TV guide? Alright, I understand now. That's fine, but if it's just random people posting that sort of information, please be sure not to add anything until confirmable source images have also been posted. Tiddlywinks (talk) 05:36, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Episode source

Here's the source of this new title: http://www.pocketmonsters.net/episodes/viewep/1975 Seabiscuit2020 (talk) 05:16, 08 May 2016 (UTC)

No offence, but why are you telling me this? Also, that's not an actual source. Examples of a trustworthy source would be a picture from a magazine where the title came from or a post on the official Pokemon anime website. Playerking95 (talk) 05:21, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
Oh, I'm so sorry. I got carried away with this. It won't happen again. Seabiscuit2020 (talk) 05:24, 08 May 2016 (UTC)
Actually, a Previous episode that was actually Ash vs Alain, got a similar title - (Gekkouga and Luchabull! Search for the Lost Kachikōru!!) <-- Which is similar, so i don't think this source is good enough Pratik_12 Talk 05:59, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Camerupt Eruption picture

Will you be able to find another picture of Camerupt using Eruption? The one shown is from 'A Cacturne for the Worse' and, as you say, that may not be Eruption. Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 17:22, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Sure, here's a picture of a Camerupt blowing smoke from its nostrils and its back, which was seen as it using Eruption. 096.jpg Playerking95 (talk) 05:19, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Finals vs. Final Round

First, please remind yourself of the Edit Warring rules. Continually reverting edits of a specific point is edit warring. Second, take a look back through not just the couple of episodes before XY129, but also back to other league episodes to see that the established convention is to use "quarter-finals", "semi-finals", and "finals". Reverting an edit just because you do not agree with following an established convention is, to quote your edit summary, "petty". ChE clarinetist (talk) 14:14, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

It's not really a convention, or at the very least, not a huge one, because this site has used rounds before and I can see it just by searching final round and I'm not the one being petty because I just posted it without really considering it. So reverting it because finals have been used before, is actually the only petty act. Playerking95 (talk) 15:04, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
It's still edit warring, Playerking95. You've changed it three times. First after Upratik 12 originally added it, then by reverting it twice. You're being very self-centered, your way is the right way. That's not kosher... DISCUSS things.
(Also, please keep in mind the code of conduct. The last sentence of your response above at the very least pushes that line IMO.)
Thank you. Tiddlywinks (talk) 15:37, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Okay, a couple of things. 1. There's been two reverts after I first posted that and the first post doesn't count. So the reverts are kind of even, but yet I'm the bad guy somehow. 2. So proving what I originally did wasn't petty and stating my opinion that the original revert was petty is wrong? I just don't understand, sorry. 3. I never said my way is always correct, otherwise I would alway revert edits that were reverts of my original edits and be changing every single edit to every single article that wasn't made by me, which I don't do. So saying that is a bit of an exaggeration and again I'm somehow painted as the bad guy.
This is a community and I'm not stopping other people from editing, I'm just saying that calling something a final round is pretty much the same thing as saying the finals (even though people could interpret the latter as multiple rounds), so there is no point in changing that when multiple tournaments and contests refer to the last round by both. Playerking95 (talk) 16:29, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
If calling something the final round is the same as the finals, and there is no point changing it, then why did you change it in the first place? That reasoning for you saying others who reverted you were wrong while not applying it to yourself is rather hypocritical. Also, check the episode pages I linked, which include AG, DP, and XY articles that all use the terms based off of "finals" in the Major Events section as opposed to terms based off of "final round". ChE clarinetist (talk) 16:34, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Re: 1: Please get this straight Playerking95: it doesn't matter whether the balance of reverts is even or uneven...AT ALL. Don't try to play that card. You reverted a change to what you wrote twice. (And your first change does "count" for something as well.)
2: I'm talking about your attitude. I could be reading you wrong, but even if so, you could still stand to write yourself a good deal more neutrally.
3: You act like your way is correct, because you habitually fail to start a discussion and just go right for the revert. Even when it's started going back and forth already. Even when it really, really shouldn't matter, like here. If you're not stopping other people from editing, then try reasoning with them instead of reverting what they're trying to edit.
Please understand: that last is what I really want you to take away from this. Please try not to be so trigger happy with your reversions. If I can ask you anything...if you've reverted something once and you find yourself "needing" to revert it again...consider very hard the option of talking to the other person instead. You've almost never done this, and I've thought before that you should... Try it out. Please.
Thank you. Tiddlywinks (talk) 18:28, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
At ChE clarinetist: You really don't see the hypocrisy in what you just said? I'm not the one who changed it first, so I didn't start this and [b]I[/b] changed it back because there was no reason for the first change. I understand that I shouldn't have done as much reverting there, but the only reason I did so was because the first reverting was unnecessary and for me to leave the first change alone would have meant that I thought it was okay to let someone change something to something that means basically the same thing, and I don't think that, because this is ultimately about the principal of the matter. And the principal of the matter is, that it shouldn't have been changed in the first place. And also, not all of them have finals, because I have searched Bulbapedia.
At Tiddlywinks: So it doesn't matter that other people also unfairly reverted it, especially when I didn't even do the first reverting and I only reverted it in the first place because I believed it was warranted, because the it was unnecessary to revert something to something else that is pretty much almost a carbon copy of what I just put there? And you don't see how I am the only "bad guy" here? The first one doesn't count, because I'm not talking about the first revert, I'm talking about when I first posted the edit that had the words "final round" in it, which I posted without any ill will or malice behind it.
If I have an attitude, I'm sorry, but I'm just sick and tired of being targeted and made to feel bad for something that I did, because while I am aware that I shouldn't have reverted it a second time, I didn't think the first revert was something wrong. And that's because I was just sticking to the principal of the belief that I shouldn't let someone get away with changing something to something that it almost the same thing, which as I've said, seems IN MY OPINION, to be a bit petty and I'm sure you can see where I'm coming from.
Again, I've said that I don't believe that way with what I've already said, so if you didn't read where I explained that, please read it and if you don't believe me, then that's up to you, but if what I say can't be trusted, then what's the point of saying anything? And I am not the only one reverting edits and I was certainly not the only one to revert my original edit on XY129, which was unnecessary, but it seems like I'm the only being attacked because of this. I have started a discussion before and the reason I might not like doing it every now and then, is because I'm just under the belief that once again, my side will be discounted and no one is going to agree with my point, so making a discussion will end up being redundant. But I'll make more of an effort to make a discussion in the future, but I just hope that my point will be taken into fair consideration. Playerking95 (talk) 04:52, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
Starting a discussion doesn't mean you'll win, so to speak. Don't ever expect it to. AND, don't let that persuade you into simply reverting instead of starting a discussion. That's exactly the wrong course of action. Tiddlywinks (talk) 05:27, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
I'm not saying there should be "winning", I'm just saying that I kind of feel like that if I were to start one, that my reasonings will NEVER be considered. Playerking95 (talk) 05:46, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
I can't convince you whether you'll ever get your "consideration". But that doesn't make it okay for you to make free with reversions. I think at this point, right here, you should understand well enough what you can do. And what you can't (namely, be too "free" with your reversions). I hope you can exercise good judgement. Thanks. Tiddlywinks (talk) 06:12, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
Playerking, the very first time something was put in about the finals/final round was by Upratik, using the term "finals". YOU were the first to make an edit that changed it from "finals" to "final round". Therefore, based on your argument, YOU were the one that made the "petty"edit to change it from one term to another that means the same thing. Also, if you have proof of some situations where "final round" is used, I'd love to see it please, as I posted evidence to support my reasoning of keeping to established conventions, where every page I looked at that dealt with league quarter-finals or higher used the "-finals" terminology, and even the Master Class episodes also used "semi-finals" and "finals". I did not see any in the seven pages I had looked at that used something based on "final round" except for "first round", which cannot be said any other way. ChE clarinetist (talk) 15:53, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
Actually no, that's not true. This is what happened: Upratik made an edit, which after looking at it, despite leaving out a thing or two, I did not have a problem with, but before I saw the edit, I made a similar edit to the page where I copy and pasted over a section of the article, without seeing Upratik's latest edit. And as I said, when I first wrote final round, there wasn't any malice towards it. So after final round was changed to finals, as it first was, without me originally knowing that I changed what was there, I thought that the revert was unnecessary. And it's not like other users haven't changed structured of sentences and paragraphs before and I just think it was a bit petty to just simply change final round to finals, when it means the same thing. And about other uses. Just search Final round on Bulbapedia, because there are definitely tournaments that use that term, including in the timeline of events in the anime article, where an episode of the Unova League mentions a final round. Now can we please just put this matter to rest, because I'm sure there are much better uses of our time then to argue about this. Playerking95 (talk) 16:39, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

M19 Eruption

You say that this matter "was already settled", and apparently you think this move wasn't used. Where was this matter "settled"? It's on neither character's nor the move's talk page. How was I supposed to know about it in the first place? Also, I dare to respectfully disagree. To me, it clearly looked like Camerupt used Eruption in one scene. What do you think it was? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 05:19, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

It's on my talk page, which 05308 brought up and it was also kind of settled in the revisions to eruption. It could be Eruption, it could be Lava Plume and heck, it could be Camerupt's way of using Flamethrower. It's too vague of a move to tell and Camerupt can probably do that without it being a move, because some Pokemon's unique attributes aren't always moves. I mean, are we going to say that Camerupt blowing smoke from its body is it using Smokescreen? No, because it can probably do that without it being a move and I kind of think that Camerupt can use Smokescreen. So as has been discussed here before, unless there's proof that it was ordered to use use the move, unless it most likely look like the move (if it can't be the case of the Pokemon just using one of its unique attributes), then it shouldn't be stated as such. I understand wanting to update when moves have been used, but this is speculation. Playerking95 (talk) 05:27, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
"It's too vague, and such we can't mention it all yada yada yada..." I hate when that excuse is used. It just makes the whole thing feel incomplete, and I hate things being incomplete. Sigh... --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 07:31, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
Playerking95 seems intent on causing problems, as long as things are consistent, they are just fine... shrugs ...You've deleted several Camerupt from Eruption's page; do you really think readers of bulbapedia aren't going to look at that page and think 'Huh, I could have sworn more I've seen more Camerupt using Eruption* What's just plain annoying, is how matter of fact you are about everything, as if you were in charge. Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 07:46, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
At FinnishPokéFan92: I don't like incomplete things either, but as I ands others have said here before, including admins and other normal users, this isn't a place for speculating but for facts. Since there isn't any strong proof that it's Eruption, then why don't we just edit the Lumiose Conference page to say that Ash will be the in his battle against Alain? Because there's no strong proof that he will win.
At 05308: I'm not and if you think that, then you're wrong, but honestly, I don't care what you think. I'm not the only won who wants less speculation and more facts here, just like when the admins agreed that we don't exactly know what some of the moves that those Eeveelutions used in XY090 were. So I don't think that I am in charge, I'm just going by the rules of how Bulbapedia operates when it comes to posting speculations and facts and that's what everyone who posts here should do. Playerking95 (talk) 08:38, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

About unnecessary edits

I want to ask you to think very, very hard, whenever you see an edit that you think is "unnecessary"...about whether you really need to revert that edit. A harmful edit, like removing significant content without comment, should certainly be reverted. But if someone wants to reword something that's been written, then that really, really doesn't mean it needs to be reverted. If something is really the "same thing", you really, really don't need to 'guard' the original wording (which often seems to be what you wrote, which adds a whole other layer to this). There is nothing sacred about what you or anyone else has written down once. It can be improved or changed, so long as it still works.

Thank you. Tiddlywinks (talk) 13:24, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Okay then, then why can't I just re change every single article with different wording then since that's okay then? Because, there's no point in doing that. It's unnecessary because it's rewording to the exact same thing. And it's not because of what I wrote, so get that out of your head. It's because it was originally there and some of the wording doesn't need to be reworded and as I've said before, if you think it's because it was my rewording, then why don't I revert all the other changes that have been made to the things I've added? Hmm, maybe it's because I don't have problems with those. But I'll let you in on a little secret. What I do have problems with are annoying petty members who go around and change edits, which included making unnecessary changes to every little thing I add and thinking that they can get away with it. Just have a look at my recent additions to things in the last couple of weeks and you'll see that lots of them are changed by FinishPokefan or whoever he is and you're going to tell me that that's alright, even though he is targeting me by doing this? Well fine. Nice to know that I can add whatever I want here and it can be edited to something means the exact same thing, for no reason except for being a target. That seems fair and it's great to no original edits can never stay the way they are, as long as someone is attacking you. Playerking95 (talk) 14:17, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
For now, I just want to say: drop the attitude. Now, please. It's absolutely not conducive to civil discussion. You can be more mature than that.
Beyond that, I'm going to return to this a bit later. Tiddlywinks (talk) 14:59, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
So I'm not allowed to be not be okay with being treated unfairly? Also, so you would be fine if you were being targeted like this and you would think this is fair, because I don't believe you would, since nothing about this is fair. Playerking95 (talk) 15:04, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
I didn't say you're not allowed to be okay with whatever. I said drop the attitude. You can carry on an earnest discussion/debate without the sarcasm ("Hmm, maybe it's because [...]"), hyperbole ("Okay then, then why can't I just re change every single article [...]"), and patronizing ("I'll let you in on a little secret"). (And that's not an exhaustive list.) If you can't figure out how to do that, the only possible thing you're doing is hurting your own chances of getting a fair shake. Tiddlywinks (talk) 15:13, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
Sorry, I got a bit busy this weekend, but just to button this up... I'm going to hope that Pokemaster97's response to your request was adequate for now. Happy editing. Tiddlywinks (talk) 23:12, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

XY133 and XY134

Hello, due to recent edits, you're going to need a [reliable] source for those episodes. Thank you.--ForceFire 05:58, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Wait, where's the source now and if there is none, why has someone else gone and created those without them being deleted? Playerking95 (talk) 02:19, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
It's hard to believe whether anyone who creates an episode article has a reliable source because literally no one ever sources their information when it comes to creating new episode pages. In this case, a fellow staff member found the source, so the pages weren't deleted.--ForceFire 03:02, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

The wording of a number of articles here

You may understand what's being written here, but I for one cannot. The flow of a number of sentences in several articles is awkward and confusing, hence my constant changes in recent hours. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 06:03, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

And I apologize if you won't be able to understand what I'm writing, but I guess that means we won't be able to see eye to eye about our writing styles. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 06:13, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

On the first post, they are not awkward and confusing and if you think they are, then maybe English isn't your native language and if that's the case, then I'm sorry, but this is a mainly english Pokemon encyclopaedia. All the rewording is basically unnecessary because it means the same thing and the things that were originally written were not ugly, they were easy to read and if english is your native language, then I can only suggest that you are trolling, because I don't know why else you think what were originally written by me and other uses is not as good as what you have written.
On you're second post, oh, I can understand what you have written and I understand that it's basically the same thing. Playerking95 (talk) 06:43, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
Actually, English is my native language. But I have numerous problems with the writing and it's kind of hard to explain it all. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 06:48, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
Well, I just realized the purpose of using "appeared again" over "reappeared". But that's just one problem solved. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 06:54, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
Please don't edit previous posts and since english is your native language, then you're ether being petty or you're just trolling and if its one of those, then please stop. Playerking95 (talk) 06:59, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
I don't understand what you meant by "please don't edit previous posts"... GrammarFreak01 (talk) 07:02, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
I mean, you deleted a colon from one of my posts and you are not allowed to do that, even if it was a mistake. Playerking95 (talk) 07:07, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
Oh, really? Well, sorry, that was on purpose. Call me an OCD kind of guy, but I was uncomfortable with the format so I thought I was organizing it. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 07:09, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Playerking95: your English is *not* perfect. GrammarFreak01's edits are not petty or trolling. (And please watch such comments. It was wholly unnecessary.) And editing basic format like indentation is perfectly acceptable.

Also: you cannot keep people out of talk page conversations, and it is not really kosher that you try to. You did it previously on Force Fire's talk page on the Archives, as well as now on Force Fire's talk page here. People are entirely welcome to contribute viewpoints on issues; especially ones explicitly involving them.

I was going to post this in a new section, but this has become a very relevant place for it. Before, I tried to take a generic tack in asking you to consider carefully what's "unnecessary", and about guarding your wording. But that didn't help very much. This time, I want to touch on each "unnecessary" edit you reverted.

  • On Takeru: wording like "to which Ash agreed to" is terribly clunky (not "fine") and does indeed deserve fixing. This was not an "unnecessary edit".
  • On Steven Stone: Just not worth quibbling over.
  • On Mairin: This is an awkward run-on. It absolutely deserves splitting into at least a couple sentences (and three works very fine).

Please understand, I'm not trying to attack you. I'm just trying to get through to you what sorts of things you should be leaving alone. I'm hoping you can learn and adapt. (Yes, I know you leave some edits alone. This is not about those; this is about the ones you think are "fine"...but which you are, to put it plainly, wrong about.)

Tiddlywinks (talk) 10:05, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Except that it's not clunky, I'm find with a long sentence been turned into two and necessary edits like that, but lots of the other things are unnecessary and I'm not wrong about that because there is absolutely no reason to change those things. And the petty and trolling comments are fine, because that's the only reasons I can see as to why those edits happened, because rewording is stupid, not just for my edits, but for other edits that didn't need to be changed and since I was directing the conversation towards someone, I believe that I have a right to only talk to that person, because since this is apparently a "community", I should have the right to talk with who I want to and not be force to talk to those, especially when I'm direction a conversation towards someone and someone else interjects, who's opinion I'm not interested in on those respective matters. It just feels like there constantly keep being being big amount of unnecessary edits, usually with some necessary ones that I am fine with, yet that's okay, because when the original edits say pretty much the exact same thing, newer reworded edits are more important. Playerking95 (talk) 10:46, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
Your wording on Takeru WAS clunky. Period. ...I'm trying to inform you so you can be a better editor, but this hardheaded unwillingness to accept that you might be wrong is a terribly disappointing obstacle. Please accept that some people may actually know better than you, and try to take advice to heart.
Do not try to tell me that accusations like "petty" and "trolling" are "fine". You presented the options: "Either you know English and therefore will understand that *I* am right, or you don't and therefore you can ONLY be doing this in bad faith". And that, to vastly (vaaaastly) understate it, Playerking95, is not cool.
Let me put it to you this way: if you only want to talk to Force Fire, then do that. Ignore anyone else who responds. You can talk to whoever you want and ignore whoever you want, but everything here is public; you have no "right" to prevent people from adding their own input. Thank you. Tiddlywinks (talk) 11:58, 1 September 2016 (UTC)


Excuse me, PlayerKing? Not trying to get involved and everything, but the only reason you're have problems because the users are giving you a hard time about your editing, right? Well, don't worry about it. I used to have the same problem, but at a different wikia website. So, don't get discouraged or unhappy about who did what or how they do it. Just do your best and double check your mistakes.--CoolPokéGuy (Talk) 16:41, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Wording ban

We have decided that your continued problems with reverting edits to wording, combined with your failure to show any satisfactory signs of listening to attempts at advice and warning, warrant a ban. Until further notice, you are not permitted to revert any edits to wording. (If an edit is bad enough, someone else will surely get to it.) Disregarding this ban will result in more serious action being taken, such as a block.

Thank you. Tiddlywinks (talk) 20:46, 1 September 2016 (UTC)


Hello. Due to your complete disregard to Tiddlywink's message above, the staff has decided to block you for one month. Next time, read your talk page messages and take your warnings seriously. Don't blatantly ignore them like you did yesterday. If you see an edit that you do not like, discuss it with the user that reverted you, do not go running for that undo button. Your habit of edit warring and your unwillingness to cooperate with other users will not be tolerated. Failure to comply after your block will lead to a far harsher punishment.--ForceFire 16:33, 9 September 2016 (UTC)


Hi. I was just wondering if it's better to word as "Two Trainer's each owned a..." or as "Two Trainers each owned a...". — Ruixiang95 07:50, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Recent Edits

I'm sorry about the recent edits I've done with placement for characters but isn't a named character more important than a Trainer Class that showed up?--Rahl (talk) 12:56, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Could you please answer me on this because I really don't want us to begin an edit war due to a miscommunication.--Rahl (talk) 18:05, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
What do you mean? It's simple. The Team Flare characters are more important than Gym Leader's, especially when some have only appeared in a couple of episode, prior to this Team Flare incident and Gym Leader's and Champions would be more important than Trainer classes's, but Team Flare Grunts should go with the rest of the Team Flare members, because splitting them up would be weird. And Meyer/Blaziken mask has appeared more often than those characters as well. In XY001, XY002, XY009, XY066, XY068 and then in the Team Flare incident, he still appeared more often than the Gym leaders and about as much as Diantha. Other than that, they should be more important than any other characters, like characters of the day or unnamed characters. Playerking95 (talk) 18:11, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
I am fine with everything about that except the Trainer Class part. Any named character is more important than them, because they are just unnamed extras. I understand it separates the group a little but if you are looking at characters by importance than a gym leader, rival, and even a recurring character like Keanan is more important.--Rahl (talk) 18:17, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
True, I agree, but separating them is like separating the Elite Four members with a Gym Leader, just because the Gym leader has appeared more than some of those Elite Four members. And even though they don't have names, they are apart of a named organisation that is prominent in the XY&Z part of the XY anime. Playerking95 (talk) 18:21, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
Still, they are unnamed extras. They should be below the others even if it does look a little strange. It's somewhat similar to how Clemont and Brock appear ahead of other Gym Leaders due to their increased importance.--Rahl (talk) 18:25, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
But Brock and Clemont are more than just Gym Leaders, they're travelling companions that appear in almost every episode and while they were travelling, they technically weren't Gym Leaders, because they left that duty to others. You can ask Carmenstar97 if you can split the nameless characters and named characters up, but still, it looks out of place. Playerking95 (talk)
I talked with them and they said that unnamed characters should go below named ones. I'll try to stay away from this from now on so I hope no more issues rise up between us.--Rahl (talk) 23:22, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Xerosic's Crobat and Malamar

I was wondering if you can upload images of Xerosic's Crobat using Wing Attack and Xerosic's Malamar using Psychic and Signal Beam. --Seabiscuit2020 (talk) 19:11, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

Sure. Playerking95 (talk) 01:46, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

List of side story episodes

The epicodes jump from SS032 to SS034 and still haven't been fixed. I have attempted to fix this issue, but have been unsuccessful. Would you know how to resolve this issue? User:Legend040Legend040 (talk) 15:26, 1 November 2016 (UTC) 15:26, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

Pre-airing assumptions

Hi. Can I ask that this sort of thing not be done? To be clear, I'm not going to care about what people do on upcoming episode pages, but hiding assumptions on other pages about what might happen in an upcoming episode seems quite pointless. And your removal of your earlier edit to Fairy Aura points up the deep flaw of such assumptions. These things can easily be added once the episode airs. There's no great benefit to hiding it ahead of time. Tiddlywinks (talk) 17:13, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Considering it looked exactly how it looked in M17, I don't see how it was much of an assumption, especially considering if Xerneas needed to use it in M17, why it also wouldn't need to use it in SS036, in which Xerneas was used as a similar plot device. And speaking of Xerneas, if Amoonguss isn't a big deal just because some people might not care enough to look hard enough and see it, then why not put Xerneas's appearance in the summer camp arc under minor appearances, since it could barely be seen as well and didn't appear for that long? The point is, just because things might not be easy to seen by some, Pokemon should be listed by importance and Amoonguss was used by an opponent that Astrid defeated in the Lumiose Conference, so I don't see how that's a minor appearance. Playerking95 (talk) 17:19, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
You can still add things once the episode airs, IF they're needed. Just leave the pre-airing edits to the episode page. If you really want, put things in a personal text file or something so you can just copy them out if/when the episode has aired and you know they're needed.
...Xerneas' "summer camp arc" appearance seems to be under the "Other" heading. Certainly not under "major". That's not strictly a logical comparison.
If Astrid's battle was actually shown as a major part of the story (and the battle with Amoongus a nontrivial part of that as well), then Amoongus's appearance could have been major. It wasn't. ...At all. (The end.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 17:35, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
Other doesn't mean minor appearances, it's just for main appearances that aren't really important appearances and that Amoonguss was a major appearance so it's not really the end and I'm allowed to believe that and think that should be the case. Playerking95 (talk) 17:41, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
You're still arguing different things. Xerneas's case and Amoongus's case are not the same. If you want to argue that something should be different for each, great. (So far, you don't seem to be doing that for Xerneas.) In the meantime, Xerneas has no bearing on Amoongus.
We certainly won't stop you from believing as you wish. We will ask that you refrain from undesired edits, however. Tiddlywinks (talk) 17:53, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Word cameo in my userpages

I would like to clarify that I added the word cameo in parentheses in those cases in which a character did not have a speaking role in a specific episode or movie. I was glad that Tiddlywinks quickly restored the page. MH (talk) 07:25, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

It doesn't matter if they didn't speak or not. Just like in episode pages, we don't note whether or not they spoke or not or if they had a 3 second appearance or a 3 minute appearance. Cameo is not a noteworthy thing to note compared to the way in which they are shown, because they appeared and that's all that matters. Playerking95 (talk) 07:34, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
It's completely OK that there is no "cameo" word in the episode pages, but that place where you removed them is my userpage, and it isn't a candidate for mainspace. MH (talk) 07:37, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Shell Trap

You know how this goes. Don't assume a move unless it was explicitly called out or it has a consistent and identifiable move animation. Shell Trap is a new move, so there's no consistent and identifiable animation for it, so we're going to rely on it being called out. As for what it could be? Any of the other shell moves. Also, "aggro" is short for aggressive.--ForceFire 04:25, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Okay, so if a Pokemon knew 2 moves, Hidden Power and Water Gun and the anime showed it using a water-esque move, you wouldn't say it was using Water Gun just because it was called out? Turtonator clearly used Shell Trap, if you read the moves description, look at the game's animation and look at the move it used in the anime. No other move fits the description of a Pokemon's back detonating after another Pokemon attacks with a physical move. There's being cautious and then there's being overcautious. And I know what THAT user meant, but "Agro" isn't "Aggro" and "Aggro" still isn't a word. Playerking95 (talk) 05:33, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Could've been Hydro Pump. Even if everything point to it being a move, we can't assume. The writers could easily make it a different move entirely because they can. Just like how they can just make Tierno's Raichu a female despite having the male variant tail.--ForceFire 05:56, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Your reasoning for removing Eruption was that the Pokedex implies Camerupt can erupt without specifically using it, Turtonator's Sun Dex entry could also implies the material on its shell is explosive and will explode anyway. You cannot have it both ways, you are arguing against yourself; either we put Shell Trap AND Eruption back or we leave them both be. Also, and yes I cannot believe I have to explain this, aggro is a perfectly suitable abbreviation of "aggression" or "aggrevating", don't pretend you don't know what I meant. Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 09:10, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
@Force Fire: So, if a Pokemon can only know either Hidden Power or Water Gun and the Pokemon uses a move, which isn't said, there's a possibility that the Pokemon could have used a move that it doesn't know? Wow, I can be cautious, but that damn sure takes the cake when it comes to being overcautious.
@The other user: I also said that it could have been another move and it might not be it just using its natural ability to produce lava and there is no other move that fits the description for what Turtornator used. If you'd bother to actually read what I wrote, I did acknowledge what you said, I just also pointed out that what you said, was in fact, not REALLY a word and as an english speaker, I'm not too keen on using words that don't exist, especially words that aren't even abbreviations of existent words, like "agro". So, you really didn't have to explain anything. And finally, please don't go whining to a mod about something, so that they can take care of it for you and then come here an harass me again, because that is incredibly childish. Playerking95 (talk) 11:00, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
May I remind you that this exists, so yes, it can be a move that a Pokémon shouldn't be able to learn. Like I said, the writers can do anything, anime=/=games. Also, 05308 brings up a good point, if the Sun entry says that it explodes when struck, then it could just be Turtonator naturally reacting to be hit with a contact move not the actual move.--ForceFire 11:45, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
So, if say, Cilan never commanded his Pansage to use Vine Whip, you wouldn't add it, because it could be what, Razor Leaf? Grass Knot? And I'm pretty sure summaries like that are referencing the move, like other Pokedex entries do, especially in the first generation. Playerking95 (talk) 14:21, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Vine Whip has a unique animation, if a Pokemon uses a vine to attack the opponent, it's Vine Whip. If a Rhyhorn were to use Tackle but it wasn't said, we won't say it used Tackle, since the act of ramming your body into your opponent applies to countless other moves. Shell Smash will undoubtfully have a unique animation... but it's currently the first series in the generation it's introduced and has only been used once, it's far to early to see it and go "yep, that's Shell Smash's animation", especially if it wasn't called out.--ForceFire 14:38, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Playerking95, might I remind you that you have challenged me over Vine Whip in the past so it isn't the best example for you to use. I am only reminding you of the arbitry rule that you imposed on the rest of us. I call an admin because you are not likely to listen to a user with no more authority than yourself. I suppose the reason I'm compelled to join the conversation myself is when I see you refer to me as "THAT user" and "The other user" which I think is childish passive aggresion. Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 15:13, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Okay, what Vine Whip thing? You know what, never mind, it's probably not important, but by the way you worded it, it seems like think I lost that argument, but I'm pretty sure if I did, I would remember that. I didn't impose any rule, so settle down. I'm only going by Bulapedia's rules of being cautious, which I'm fine with, in most instances. Also, a couple more things, you butted in before I said that and I said that because I don't know your username and I'm not going to look up a bunch of random numbers, when I do have other things I need to do. And I was talking about the fact that it seems pretty childish to go running to a mod, one who you know I don't get along with and then come here to gang up after he messages me, which as I've said before, happened before I said "The other user" or whatever I said. Playerking95 (talk) 15:31, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

The Mimikyu image

I have a quick question: Did you get the image of Mimikyu from TV Tropes? Macsen (talk) 14:00, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

No. I didn't even know TV Tropes have one of Mimikyu. Playerking95 (talk) 14:11, 3 January 2017 (UTC)


Sorry, you are right. The episode source that I watched didn't have the PokéProblem in these episodes.--PannenkoekenNL (talk) 13:50, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

That's okay. Just know that I wouldn't add vandalise the website by adding stuff that isn't there. Playerking95 (talk) 13:51, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

English names

Got the voice actors for Ether and Dohga but I'm not sure what their dub names are, can you assist?--BigDocFan (talk) 13:08, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Sure, I'm not too busy, what do you need? Playerking95 (talk) 13:28, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Do you know what Ether and Dohga are called in the dub as my cast lists have 2 different names, hard to give the actors to the character when not certain of their dub name--BigDocFan (talk) 13:30, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
As far as I'm concerned, I haven't heard about their dub names. I didn't think they had any. Did Lisa mention what their names are or did she just call them Dohga and Ether? Playerking95 (talk) 13:43, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Just noticed that Ether is a female so I'm guessing that means she is called Cherie leaving Levi so I'm guessing that is Dohga--BigDocFan (talk) 13:50, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
In that case, you should contact an admin and tell them about these names, so that they can be changed on this site. Playerking95 (talk) 13:52, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Who's that Pokémon?

We need pictures for the Who's that Pokémon segment of XY139 and XY140, please. Seabiscuit2020 (talk) 21:40, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Signature vs. unsigned

Hey, just a quick question about this edit and this one. I know we're supposed to change a signature to unsigned if the user added it after the fact because it means the timestamp is wrong... but in both of those cases, the user went back and added the signature within the same minute of their original edit. Wouldn't that mean the timestamp is correct, so there's no reason to waste time changing it to unsigned? Just curious. Thanks. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 16:59, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry, I thought that even if it was in the same minute that it would still be off. I think I might have imagined in my head that the seconds were also listed. I'll keep that in mind from now on. Playerking95 (talk) 17:07, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Eternal Flower Floette

Why you remove Eternal Flower Floette from Floette's page?--Lockheedpryde (talk) 04:40, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Rowlet is Moses

Why did you remove a clear reference to a famous literary work?!--Arisboch (talk) 19:49, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Because, as I clearly stated before, it's a stretch. Moses parted the sea and then walked through it with people. Rowlet parted it while it flew through it. It's not the same thing. Playerking95 (talk) 07:22, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
Yes, but it's a clear reference.--Arisboch (talk) 02:48, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
Playerking95 is right. Just "parting" a body of water so that it has two walls of water on either side doesn't automatically make it a "reference" to Moses parting the seas in any meaningful way. You may think they look the same, but there's absolutely nothing else that suggests that should specifically have any reference to Moses. It's a huge leap of logic. Tiddlywinks (talk) 02:55, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

Hull CotD

Is there a particular reason that you created this page with the character named "Hull" for ハル? Tiddlywinks (talk) 20:56, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

What? Because that's his name? Playerking95 (talk) 06:23, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
"ハル"(春) means "Spring"(Season, not water) in Japanese. --Xzonn|Talk 09:38, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
Okay, and? His name also spells out Haru/Hull. We don't call Kiawe fire, since Kaki can also mean fire. Playerking95 (talk) 12:24, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
I meant that Haru is a simple name in Japanese. It's pretty weird to turn it into "Hull".
Please be careful about the spellings you choose in the future. Thanks. Tiddlywinks (talk) 14:28, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
But lots of other names are romanised here, so why is this one targeted? Playerking95 (talk) 14:30, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
Name some others. Tiddlywinks (talk) 14:38, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
Sure, I can name four from XYZ alone. Edo is called Ed, Aruba is called Alva, Jimii is called Jimmy, Riria is called Lilia. Playerking95 (talk) 14:43, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
I think "Haru" is better. Anyway, both of "Hull" and "Haru" are not official English name. Waiting for official name is better, right?--Xzonn|Talk 14:47, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
Those aren't particularly Japanese names. (Keep in mind especially that Kalos is also roughly equivalent to France, while Alola is equivalent to Hawaii, which has a significant Japanese(-descended) population.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 14:48, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
Yes, because Haru is probably a Japanese name. This isn't originally an english show. Other shows have characters called Hull, so it's not the first time this name has been used. Think of Locke, a part of his nickname is Knuckle, in Japanese, it's Nakkaru, but we know it's knuckles, because of Binacle, so why should Haru being turned into Hull, as in a ship's hull be any different?
And I don't think the anime particularly cares where the region is set. Otherwise, Kalos would have been flowing with popular/stereotypical french names. I think that no matter what the region is, most of the characters are going to have Japanese names. And I can't really recall many french names in the Kalos anime. Playerking95 (talk) 14:55, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
If you understand that Haru is a Japanese name, then don't change the spelling arbitrarily... If you agree with that, you're already MILES away from a name like "Knuckle". Tiddlywinks (talk) 15:17, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
I didn't. They're both the same. One is just a romanised version of the other. Otherwise, as I said, we wouldn't be listing Nakkaru or Jimii, or Riria, because like Haru, they can all be turned into more english sounding words. Playerking95 (talk) 15:19, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
The only reason we would romanize Haru as Hull if Haru had anything to do with ships.... which he doesn't, so Hull makes not sense what so ever. If we were to romanize it to English, it would be Hal, because that's an actual name.--ForceFire 15:25, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
What? Do Tide and Current from BW125 have "things to do" with water? No, they don't. They were on a ship in the episode, but that doesn't mean they have anything to do with tides or currents, so again what makes Hull different? And I to assume that Tide and Current, unlike Hull, are proper Japanese names? What about Berry from XY063? She has nothing to do with berries, and I don't think Berry is a common name. Playerking95 (talk) 15:34, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

(resetting indent)You're fundamentally misunderstanding something, Playerking95... This is perhaps a point where a shallow understanding of Japanese is doing you a great disservice. If you had any real familiarity, it should be plain to you that the names you are bringing up are not at all the same situations. Honestly, your misunderstanding is so fundamental that I don't know any way to explain it to you. If you can't understand that ナックル, タイド, カレント, and ジミー are not Japanese names—making your attempted arguments patently absurd—I don't know how to make it clear to you.

I really wish I could impart enough knowledge on you so that you could reliably recognize common Japanese names. But I can't. I will therefore simply have to settle for pounding home this single case and hope that it sinks in for some other cases in the future... TRUST me: ハル is eminently common in Japanese names. It is not reasonably "Hull". (PERIOD.)

Thank you. Tiddlywinks (talk) 15:48, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

No, I do understand quite a bit of Japanese, so stop patronising me. And no, I do understand that they aren't Japanese names. They are Japanese versions of english names. I know that Jimmy is an English name, but the Japanese pronunciation of that is Jimii. So, it's just that you are not understanding me. While Hull is not an english name, it is the closest equivalent to Haru, like Jimmy is the closest thing to Jimii and Knuckle is the closest thing to Nakkaru. Plain and simple. Playerking95 (talk) 15:54, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
If you're still insisting, either you can't understand Japanese that well after all... Or you're so obsessed with hearing English words in characters' names that you simply cannot recognize the fundamental reality here. Either is a fundamental flaw.
You need to understand this Playerking95... Every name that is merely spoken in Japanese is NOT something you can automatically turn into something that sounds more "English". I cannot emphasize this enough. Not, not, not, not, not! And once more for good measure: NOT!
It's a profound mistake to insist that ハル should be "Hull". I expect this is all I have to say on the matter any further.
Thank you. Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:01, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
I said, stop patronising me, now. And again, I do understand Japanese and I am not obsessed with hearing english words, mainly because, that is not a thing. Other pages have allowed it before. Jimmy is and english word, but we don't refer to it with how it is spelt in Japanese, because that's how they spell the word Jimmy, we don't refer to Tide as Taido, but Haru can't be turned into Hull? Yet there's only something wrong now that I've done it? Yeah, this conversation should end, because there's no point in once again arguing in a conversation that I can't win. Playerking95 (talk) 16:08, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
Don't play the persecution card, Playerking95. It's a bad spelling, period; whether you made the page or someone else did. Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:11, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
That's like saying don't play the race card. Why can't I, that's all that seems to happen here. I've brought up contradicting evidence, yet all it boils down to is " Playerking95 doesn't know Japanese, learn Japanese and stop being wrong". And it's not bad spelling, maybe it's wrong to romanise character names, but if so, then I won't do it again and the other pages should follow suit, but romanising Haru to Hull is absolutely no different then Bulbapedia turning Miruhoggu into Miruhog. Playerking95 (talk) 16:16, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Hull is not a reasonable romanization because it is not an English name. Hal is because it's an English name. The only reason his name would be Hull if he was doing something ship/boating related, which he didn't. Stop seeing things that aren't there. We get Knuckles because of Binacle, you understand that, but not this!? Come on now.--ForceFire 16:20, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Yes, but I believe that Hull is closer, when you say it a Japanese dialect. But if you want to change it to Hal, then change it. And I get Knuckles, because it is the closest english equivalent. And again, Tide has nothing to do with who he is, nor does Current. They were on a ship one time, but it has nothing to do with who they are as people. Playerking95 (talk) 16:25, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Who in the world is this Hull anyway? GrammarFreak01 (talk) 03:55, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the link fix, Force Fire. It's very much appreciated. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 04:04, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
Hull is a character of the day in SM011. It's pretty obvious. Playerking95 (talk) 07:01, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
I didn't see that episode, and Hull was a red-link, so... GrammarFreak01 (talk) 07:07, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
So, it was changed, but it's still Hull. So, could you please leave, if you didn't come here to add anything important to the discussion, instead of trying to cause trouble. Playerking95 (talk) 07:11, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
I was hoping I could pitch in if I learned more. Anyway, I do agree with the above that "Hull" is not a reasonable romanization. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 07:34, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
Okay, good to know, but the discussion has ended and I still disagree and there's already been evidence stated that other pages have used romanisations before. Playerking95 (talk) 07:36, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
I was under the impression that it was still ongoing but okay. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 07:42, 22 March 2017 (UTC)


First off I am the stupidest person on the planet by created your user page and not going on your talk page.

Anyway I believe that every direct translated episode gets a trivia Theexploringgamer (talk) 23:34, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

SM027 title translation

Hi. I just wanted to address your comment about the initial translation of SM027's title and how it supposedly wasn't "bad". The thing is, the "Get Out" part was wrong—"bad"—period. 出で simply is not "Get Out". The other parts, though, sure, there's some amount of personal preference or style or whatnot. I just didn't want to completely ignore the comment and let misunderstanding propogate I guess. I don't know. Anyway. Thanks. Tiddlywinks (talk) 13:24, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Moves in the anime

Hi, Playerking95. I just wanted to address your comment in this edit you made to Ash's Litten. It is our current policy that moves must be explicitly identified (such as by characters or by closed captions). If I understand correctly, you were reasoning that Scratch has been seen a lot and it looked like Scratch; but that's very much not good enough. (Tentatively, only moves listed here might be okay to identify from their visuals.) I hope you can understand and keep it in mind in the future.

And since you're someone who's so active with the anime pages, I'd appreciate if you could be on the lookout for any other bad assumptions like that. I don't really have it in me to keep up on every anime edit, but this particular issue is one I hope we can hammer home (kind of like our gender policy), and I'd be grateful if you could help out. Feel free to contact me or anyone if you need to. Thanks! Tiddlywinks (talk) 22:13, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

I wasn't saying that we only knew it used Scratch because of how it looked. I heard the move called out in SM024 and SM027, and how was I supposed to know it used Fury Swipes , because I don't have access to SM007's US captions? Playerking95 (talk) 09:28, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
Oh, you actually meant that you thought it was just Scratch used back-to-back. Either way, it does seem to have been there from when SM007 first aired (at which point it should not have been identified as anything in particular). If you see that kind of assumption anywhere else, I hope you can still help us weed those out. Thanks! Tiddlywinks (talk) 10:57, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Grubbin in SM020

Above the three small red flower/below the Combee that is below Comfey at 9:24. — Ruixiang95 17:04, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

An image might be better. CycloneGU (talk) 17:09, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Dig and Rapid Spin

Okay, so, I know the reason(s) for you undoing my edits, and I am here to request you to revert them back. Dig and Rapid Spin weren't stated to be used alright, but Sandstorm and Power Gem weren't as well, but the latter two's mentions sit rather comfortably on their move pages. If Carbink can suddenly have an ability to dig and spin rapidly, why can't it suddenly have an ability to whip up sandstorms. Secondly, none of the moves on this page, starting from Corsola's Water Gun in Going for the Gold!, to the end of that section, save for the Electro Ball, weren't stated to be used as such, but still find mention on the respective move pages. Seriously, why does Corsola's Water Gun not get banned from the page on account of it possibly being a Brine or a Hydro Pump. Thirdly, Dig and Rapid Spin's animations are consistent with the other times they were used; in the former case, the Pokémon drills a hole with a body part and burrows inside; the latter is just very obvious, the user rapidly spins and attacks the opponent. So, it not being consistent with other times the move was used, should not be problem. Plus, their animations do not match the animations of any other move. (The user glows while using Gyro Ball; in this case, Carbink doesn't.) Fourthly, I know it would be a big thing to say, as I am just an average user over here, but I would suggest the "not-stated-not-assume" rule to be dropped. Frankly speaking, the rule does little good, and with this crushing pile of evidence depicting its irregular implementation, (which is seriously just a very small part from the ocean of evidence present on this site) and being a cause for constant "reasons-requests" scenarios like this, it is just not worth it. Being very frank, no one in the TPC or TPCI really cares whether an un-stated move in the anime is listed correctly on this site, and they would never bother themselves with changing a PotD's moveset; simply ignoring the move, however, when it has already occurred is really inconsistent with our Bulbapedia Project.

With that of my chest, I would say that I hope you take my reasoning into consideration, and undo your changes, or at least not revert them when I do so myself. Thanks! Harryghost (talk) 16:26, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

The rule is there to prevent speculative inaccuracy of this wiki like in the old days that I've heard about, so no, your edit will probably not be undone(and neither will the rule).--BlisseyandtheAquaJets (talk) 17:12, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
I do not honestly care much about the rule. I just gave a suggestion and that's it. It's a matter of the authorities and I hold no position to dictate them.
Regarding the edit though, the wiki is filled with "speculative inaccuracy" regarding moves and I stand by my request for the undoing of the edits, frankly for consistency with the other times moves were added on this site on speculation basis. Harryghost (talk) 19:04, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
If other pages have problems, that by no means means we should be submitting ourselves to those exact same problems forever. That's the exact opposite of the smart thing to do. Problematic pages can be fixed. Tiddlywinks (talk) 19:30, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Lillie's Garden Pokémon

Just wondering it is is worth adding sections in the Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime for the other Pokémon who appear in Lillie's Garden as they are recurring wild Pokémon?--BigDocFan (talk) 14:41, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

It seems like a bit of a long list, so I'd ask an admin if you should go it or not. Playerking95 (talk) 14:57, 15 June 2017 (UTC)


Did Bruxish use Screech in today's episode? It looked like it when Ash and the gang covered their ears from it. Seabiscuit2020 (talk) 17:37, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

You know, at first I thought it did, but then I read one of its Pokedex entries and it says it can make that vibration without mentioning it using Screech. So, I don't know. Maybe you should ask an admin if it should be added or not. Playerking95 (talk) 19:26, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
There should not be a question. Either the move was called or it wasn't. Do not add a move if it wasn't called. Tiddlywinks (talk) 02:13, 23 June 2017 (UTC)


Instead of reverting edits and whining all the time, would you atually like to contribute in a positive and useful way? If so, I'd like to point you in the direction of this page: User:05308/Unidentifiable Moves in the Anime. And yes, I am being rude and facetious. Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 11:12, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Except I don't just revert edits and I never whine, if you'd bother to look at my list of contributions. Please don't get annoyed just because you made a mistake. Playerking95 (talk) 11:18, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Making articles

Hello. Please be advised that when you make an article, it must have actual content in it. An article that is completely devoid of any information isn't any different than having no article at all. If you haven't read the series, then it's better to just wait until someone who has to do so. Ataro (talk) 21:19, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Opinionated language

No need to get defensive. I wasn't talking about the validity of your comparison, I was only talking about the words you used to write it. We need to be careful about opinionated diction, that's all. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 15:42, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Colloquialisms vs. encyclopedic writing

You don't seem to understand what I was trying to say. "Legendary" on its own and "Totem" on its own are colloquialisms that, yes, people use in casual discussions, and that's fine. But encyclopedic writing requires a higher level of formality, and just like we don't use abbreviations and contractions, we also must write out key terms in full every time they are used. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 16:11, 13 July 2017 (UTC)


Commas have rules. You can't just use them whenever you feel like it. Can you please cite for me any grammar authority anywhere that states titles require a comma after them?

I suspect the actual rule you may be mistaken about is that nonessential relative subordinate clauses do need a comma before them. Here on Bulbapedia, these often occur after titles, such as in sentences like:

Lycanroc appeared in Rocking Clawmark Hill, in which it trained on Clawmark Hill.

The bolded part is a nonessential relative subordinate clause: nonessential because the sentence can make sense without it, relative because it starts with a relative pronoun, and subordinate because it can't stand on its own as a separate sentence.

However, titles can appear in other kinds of sentences, and they typically don't need commas in sentences like this one:

Lycanroc appeared in M20 in an alternate continuity.

Because the bolded part doesn't start with a relative pronoun, it's not a relative subordinate clause and doesn't need to be preceded by a comma.

Since under — as in under the ownership of in the sentences we were disputing — isn't a relative pronoun, it doesn't require a comma.

I hope this helps you understand what I'm trying to explain! Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 01:33, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

"No speculation"

Your "no moves added until they're named out loud" thing is going a bit overboard. I understand that we don't add moves that we're not sure of what they are, but please! I'm tired as all heck of your constant removal of moves even when it's obvious what they are. I agree, moves like the biting move from SM025 can be debatable, but some cases are more than obvious, like most of Kiawe's Marowak's moves in the newest episode. A bone spinning through the air like a boomerang? Bonemerang. Marowak cloaking itself in fire and rolling at the opponent like a wheel? Flame Wheel. Don't try to make yourself look stupid, because I'm pretty certain that you aren't. PS. It'd be nice to know you better. Why not make yourself a user page some day? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 13:03, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Also, why do you remove them completely? Isn't hiding enough? It'll be easier to re-add them that way. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 13:18, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
If you think a move has a unique animation, we would ask that you bring it up to someone on staff or on the talk page for ForceFire's user page. That will easily avoid this sort of dispute. No matter how much you may think this particular move is unique, that's still your opinion. Even supposing you're right here, you may not always be right; and if we let it slide for you, we'd have to do the same for everyone, and then before long there'd almost surely be someone making the wrong assumption. Just ask first. Thanks. Tiddlywinks (talk) 13:37, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
You need to STOP treating this place as your personal plaything... You don't have the privilege to decide what goes and what doesn't here, so stop acting like you do... You were banned in the archives for shit like this, and I'm waiting to see you banned in here as well, as it's just a matter of time before you do...--ShallowShaddoll (talk) 13:51, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
A warning for the moment: we will stay away from personal attacks here. Please and thank you. Tiddlywinks (talk) 14:02, 20 July 2017 UTC
I have to reiterate my agreement, PlayerKing just likes arguing and disagreeing and reverting- if anybody else went around reverting edits like you did they would get told off but obviously this guy has some sort of dirt on the admins. Let's look at Shell Trap, PlayerKing actually argued in favour of the move- contrary to his stance on all of that of these disagreements and contradicting his previously stated ethos on the matter- but it was kept of the page (I am aware that I presented the counter argument back then but I only did it to show PlayerKing how annoying it is) I knew it was shell trap, we all knew it was shell trap but we couldn't put it until today. So we've actually been wrong for months when in reality- it was obvious. It just makes us look stupid when we say 'none of Marowack's' moves are known when it very clearly used moves. For those of us living in the real world, Marowack's moves are at least Flame Wheel and Shadiw bone- I suppose Bonemerang could be argued (though the one arguing is just being awkward for the sake of being awkward) and the head move- for the record it was a move, when a Pokémon tucks its limbs in like that and there is a tell-tale affect on the head, it is the move. Though you could call it Headbutt or Head Smash, so in that case we can just do as we did with Snivy's Leaf Storm and Fletchling's Steel Wing and just wait- that's a luxury with main cast Pokémon, but that one Pangoro in XY071, for example, will never have that chance. I understand the effort not to put incorrect information on the pages, but in its place we are just putting no information- sorry but will someone actually look at the moves pages? Hundreds of moves are listed without being explicitly stated and maybe being a bit ambiguous- nobody cared before and it's only PlayerKing, and a few minor league admins that fuel his tyranny, that care now. The preview showed Totem Lurantis using Petal Blizzard but I just know we won't be allowed to document it because 'it might be Petal Dance.' I will not let this go Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 20:53, 20 July 2017 (UTC)