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<div>{{samename|anime special based on the games|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time & Darkness}}<br />
{{samename|manga based on the game|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Darkness (manga)}}<br />
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|platform=[[Nintendo DS]]<br />
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|release_date_kr=December 11, 2008<ref>[http://www.nintendo.co.kr/DS/soft/PokemonDG_ex/main.php Nintendo of Korea]</ref><br />
|release_date_tw=September 13, 2007<br />
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'''Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|ポケモン不思議のダンジョン 時の探検隊|ポケモンふしぎのダンジョン ときのたんけんたい}}''' ''Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time'') and '''Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Darkness''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|ポケモン不思議のダンジョン 闇の探検隊|ポケモンふしぎのダンジョン やみのたんけんたい}}''' ''Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Darkness'') are a matched pair of Pokémon games for the [[Nintendo DS]]. These games are the second pair of entries in the [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon series]], an adaptation of the {{wp|Mystery Dungeon}} games for Pokémon.<br />
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The games are successors to [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team]]. They include the new [[Generation IV]] Pokémon and have some Wi-Fi features, as well as more dual-screen features than their predecessor for the same system (Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Blue Rescue Team).<br />
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An [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time & Darkness|anime adaptation]] of these games has been produced.<br />
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These games feature 491 Pokémon; {{p|Shaymin}} and {{p|Arceus}} were excluded for they had yet to be officially revealed when the games were released. The games were released on April 20, 2008.<br />
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[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|A third installment]] was developed by [[Chunsoft]] and was released on April 18, 2009 in Japan.<br />
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==Plot==<br />
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=== Forming an Exploration Team===<br />
The story begins with a cut-scene where the {{player}} winding up unconscious on a beach after some unknown accident. Meanwhile, the partner is nervous about joining the [[Wigglytuff's Guild]], a local exploration club, and gives up early. Walking along the beach, the partner encounters the player, and informs that the player has been turned into a Pokémon. The [[Relic Fragment]] the partner holds is then stolen by {{p|Zubat}} and {{p|Koffing}}, members of {{OBP|Team Skull|Mystery Dungeon}}, which the player helps recover. After a brief exchange, the partner explains their motivation for joining the guild: the partner loves legend and lore and their life dream is to find the secret of their personal treasure—a Relic Fragment with a strange pattern on it. The partner, reinvigorated by the player's courage, resolves to join the Guild as a new team with the player, who, due to having obtained severe memory loss that erased everything from their past life except their name and the knowledge that they were once human, agrees as a way to piece together who they were.<br />
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Over the next few days, the team gets accustomed to life at the Guild and the nearby [[Treasure Town]]. Among the folks they meet are {{mdc|Wigglytuff|2}}, the kindhearted Guild Master, {{mdc|Chatot|2}}, the hot-tempered yet well-meaning second-in-command, {{mdc|Bidoof|2}}, the newest recruit prior to the team joining, senior apprentices {{p|Corphish}} and {{mdc|Sunflora|2}}, the Guild chef {{p|Chimecho}} (also in charge of maintaining the team), {{p|Diglett}} and {{mdc|Loudred|2}}, the Guild sentries, {{p|Dugtrio}}, maintainers of the job boards, {{p|Magnezone}}, the local sheriff, brothers {{p|Marill}} and {{p|Azurill}}, various shop owners, and other exploration teams. As they are introduced to the Guild, they learn of the fact that rogue Pokémon have been wreaking havoc in the world due to the disruption of time, Pokémon cannot [[evolution|evolve]], and new "Mystery Dungeons" have been revealed and open to exploration.<br />
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The player discovers not too long after that they have the ability to spontaneously see things in the past and future, but only when touching an object of some kind. This comes in handy when the player and partner arrest {{mdc|Drowzee|2}} when he attempts to manipulate Azurill into collecting some treasure for him. Later, the partner tells the player the story of the [[Time Gear]]s, the artifacts that maintain the flow of time in their respective regions. The partner theorizes that if a Time Gear is stolen, time in that area will stop. Despite this, a mysterious thief is seen stealing a Time Gear.<br />
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After several days of completing minor jobs, Chatot gives the player and partner their first real job: the exploration of [[Waterfall Cave|a nearby waterfall]] that he feels holds more than it lets on. Discovering a cave on the other side and exploring to its depths, they discover that it houses a huge gem. However, their attempts to remove it result in them triggering a bobby trap that flushes them off to a nearby [[Hot Spring]]. Despite being unable to claim the gem, Chatot and the partner are convinced that the cave alone is a major find for the Guild. However, the player, after piecing together several visions his ability caused (and Chatot later confirms), discerns that Wigglytuff had already discovered the cave, but had completely forgotten by the time they were told to go.<br />
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===The legend of the Time Gears===<br />
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One day, the player and partner, along with the Guild, make an expedition to a location called [[Fogbound Lake]], a lake seemingly covered in fog. During this time, they draw the ire of Team Skull, in particular their leader {{p|Skuntank}}, whom decide to make their lives a living hell, including tricking Wigglytuff to let them join the expedition for that purpose. Arriving there, the player recalls the place as being familiar, but cannot ascertain as to why. This point is pushed home when Chimecho relays the story of the [[Lake guardians|Lake Guardian]], {{mdc|Uxie|2}}, who is said to be able to erase the memories of all who arrive there. Convinced that their memory loss is due to having a negative encounter with Uxie, the player, along with the partner, resolves to find Fogbound Lake in order to discern the truth. After escaping a trap from Team Skull (who are, in turn, assaulted by Wigglytuff after he discerns their true intentions), the two reach the top, where they find and defeat {{p|Groudon}} to find out that it was only an illusion made by Uxie. Uxie does not trust the Guild, fearing that they may take the Time Gear at the center of the lake, hence the reason for erasing the memories. However, after an appeal from the partner, the Guild earns Uxie's trust, and Uxie decides not to erase the memories of the Guild or the lake's treasure. However, Uxie also reveals that he had nothing to do with the player's memory loss due to never having met a human before and the fact that, as far as he knows, he can only erase memories of Fogbound Lake.<br />
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Returning home, they meet a famous explorer named {{mdc|Dusknoir|2}}, who, after helping the team escape another trap by Team Skull (they had overheard Marill and Azurill talking to them about a personal item going missing and, upon retrieving it first, intended to use it to have them eliminated by a territorial {{p|Luxray}}), explains that the player's ability to see through time is called the [[Dimensional Scream]]. Asking Dusknoir how the player had arrived in their condition, they surprisingly get no results. Nevertheless, Dusknoir offers their help in uncovering the secret behind the player's transformation. Just then, however, the Guild reports that the Time Gear from Fogbound Lake has been stolen, and an all-points bulletin has been posted for the arrest of {{mdc|Grovyle|2}}. As a result, Wigglytuff has the Guild focus their energies on bringing Grovyle to justice, to which Dusknoir also offers his assistance. The Guild splits up to look for the other Time Gears, while the player's team eventually discovers an underground lake beneath the [[Northern Desert]], which is home to a Time Gear. The Time Gear is guarded over by {{p|Mesprit}}, which the team is forced to defeat when she mistakes them for thieves. Just as the partner explains that they are not there to steal the Time Gear, Grovyle appears. Grovyle easily dispatches the team and the weakened Mesprit, and steals the Time Gear. Fortunately, the team and Mesprit manages to escape before they are frozen in time.<br />
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Back at the guild, the failure of the team to stop Grovyle meant that there are no leads to his next location. However, Dusknoir determines that, as Uxie, the being of knowledge, and Mesprit, the being of emotion, were both guarding Time Gears, it stands to reason that {{p|Azelf}}, the being of willpower, is likely to be guarding another Time Gear. Dusknoir further explains that as Uxie and Mesprit were encountered in lakes not likely to be where they were, Azelf is also likely to be found in a similar lake area. Hoping to find a lead, Dusknoir asks the player to touch a treasure that Bidoof took with him at [[Crystal Cave]], in order to trigger a Dimensional Scream. Indeed, after touching it, the player sees a vision where Azelf is defeated at the hands of Grovyle. However, Chimecho is unsure—because the Dimensional Scream cannot tell the difference between past and future, Grovyle may have already made off with the Time Gear. Dusknoir remains confident that it is of the future, as the partner had never heard Azelf's name before Dusknoir had mentioned it. Because there is a chance that the Dimensional Scream is describing the future, the Guild decides to have all hands search the cave. The team arrives at the lake in the middle of the cave, where they find Azelf about to be defeated by Grovyle. However, just as Grovyle is about to steal the Time Gear, Azelf, having been forewarned of Grovyle's intentions from Uxie and Mesprit and anticipating the possibility that he might not be able to slow him down, activates a fail-safe trap that covers the lake in crystals, preventing Grovyle from submerging underwater and reaching the Time Gear. This does not deter Grovyle, and the team is knocked unconscious and the partner is badly wounded. Before Grovyle can finish the partner off, Dusknoir appears. The team discovers that Dusknoir and Grovyle have been long acquainted, but before they can delve any further, Grovyle makes his getaway, and Dusknoir chases after the Pokémon. Just then, the Guild finds the team, and cart them back to the guild.<br />
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Some time later, the team reawakens back at the guild. The partner recalls the exchange between Dusknoir and Grovyle, and the information is shared with the Guild and Azelf. Just then, the Guild's emergency alarm sounds, requiring everyone to be in attendance at a town meeting. In town, they find Dusknoir, who reminds everyone that Grovyle is still at large. Dusknoir further claims that Grovyle is a Pokémon [[Time travel|from the future]]—there, Grovyle was a criminal who fled to the past to avoid being captured. In order to prevent any pursuers from coming after him, he plots to steal the Time Gears, which in turn would freeze the world in time, thus causing the planet's paralysis, a dystopian world where water would not flow, the sun would not rise, the seasons would not change, and darkness would cover the world. When Corphish is curious as to how Dusknoir knows all of this, Dusknoir reveals that he, too, is from the future, sent back in time to capture Grovyle and bring him to justice. The Guild and townsfolk all agree to help Dusknoir stop Grovyle. Azelf has a plan to trap Grovyle—as the Time Gear in Crystal Lake still remains, they are certain that Grovyle will return for it. In order to lure Grovyle, the townsfolk spread a false rumor that the lake trio will try to seal the Time Gear away permanently, while the trio will be defending the Time Gear, awaiting the moment to make the jump on Grovyle. Although everyone wants to help, Dusknoir insists on doing so alone as to avoid suspicion.<br />
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A few days later, a report from Magnezone arrives, indicating that Grovyle has been captured, and that Dusknoir plans to take Grovyle back to the future to face justice. To do so, Dusknoir has opened a Dimensional Hole in the middle of town square. In town, the townsfolk find the Dimensional Hole, but no sign of Dusknoir. As the lake trio explain to the partner that the Time Gears were recovered and were returned, Dusknoir appears with Grovyle and two {{p|Sableye}}. As Grovyle is carted off into the Dimensional Hole, Dusknoir gives his farewell. But before he steps through the portal, he asks the player's team to step forward. When they step next to the portal, the partner bids Dusknoir a sad farewell, but then, Dusknoir suddenly grabs the team and drags them into the portal. Before the townsfolk can react, the Dimensional Hole closes and disappears suddenly.<br />
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===Escape from the future===<br />
The player is woken up by the partner, who reveals that they have been locked in a cell. Just then, they encounter some guards—a group of Sableye. Six Sableye blindfold them and take them to another room, where they find themselves bound to a pole, awaiting execution. Along with the two is Grovyle, also tied up. Dusknoir appears, giving the orders to the Sableye to execute the three. Grovyle convinces the team to cooperate - while the Sableye to attack the ropes that tie them to the stake, there is a slight chance of breaking the ropes, and it may allow the three to escape. Fortunately, the ropes break free, and the three overwhelm the Sableye. This allows Grovyle to use a {{DL|Wonder Orb|Luminous Orb}}, and take the team to safety. Back outside, Grovyle reveals that they are indeed in the future, but despite the lake trio returning the Time Gears back to their original places, the planet has been paralyzed.<br />
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Continuing to elude the Sableye, the partner loses confidence on whether they will ever return home. The player then proposes to the partner to catch up to Grovyle, who had gone ahead due to the partner's reluctance to trust him, and ask how he had traveled back to the past in the first place. They eventually catch up to Grovyle, and save him from the {{p|Spiritomb}} who had knocked him out earlier. Though Grovyle is reluctant to help them, he proceeds to tell his side of the story. The world's paralysis dated back to the present day with the collapse of the [[Temporal Tower]], governed by {{mdc|Dialga|2}}, the legendary Pokémon that controls time. When the tower collapsed, Dialga lost control of time, and it too lost all control. Dialga turned berserk, becoming [[Primal Dialga]]. Seeking only self-preservation, Primal Dialga tries to prevent history from changing, and hence its need to exterminate Grovyle. The partner is visibly shocked by this revelation—and even more so when Grovyle reveals that he had pure motivations for collecting the Time Gears: he needed them in order to prevent the tower from collapsing and that the time stop caused by the removal of the Time Gears is merely temporary—the area affected would return to normal once the gears were placed in Temporal Tower. This story contradicts Dusknoir's claims, and Grovyle then reveals that Dusknoir is an agent of Primal Dialga sent to stop him, and had everyone in the past played for fools.<br />
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Though the partner does not believe Grovyle, the player believes that Grovyle's assertions are reasonable, and that the partner cannot seem to accept the truth. The partner even thought of going back to the stockade and ask Dusknoir to reveal the truth, but Grovyle stops them by reminding them that, due to their hesitance to trust him, they would decide for themselves what best to do. Grovyle leaves to find {{mdc|Celebi|2}}, the time-traveling Pokémon, to start his mission anew. Although the player is determined to follow Grovyle, the partner is more reluctant. Nevertheless, the partner agrees to follow, if only to find a way to return to the present. The group eventually manages to find Celebi, who seems to also be aware of who the player is. However, Grovyle didn't hear what Celebi said, and before the team can react, Grovyle reminds the team to get a move on. Celebi leads the group to the Passage of Time—a secret corridor spanning multiple dimensions that Celebi needs for major time jumps. However, before they can go through the passage, they are stopped by Dusknoir and the Sableye, who had caught up to them. Surrounded, the group has no choice but to overpower Dusknoir and the Sableye. However, when Primal Dialga appears, Grovyle, believing that they are outmatched, has no choice but to surrender, but, before they can go down, he contends that at least hope will remain: when he first traveled back to the past, he and his human partner had been separated, and he is confident this partner will carry out the mission in his stead. Dusknoir, however, believes otherwise, and forces Grovyle to tell the name of his partner - the player. The partner is surprised at this revelation—and Grovyle and Celebi are even more surprised that the player is standing with them. Grovyle refuses to believe that the player has been turned into a Pokémon, but Dusknoir relays his plan to eliminate the player and Grovyle: during his attempts to track the two in the past, Dusknoir ran into the player and, upon discovering their current condition, befriended the team and the Guild so he can trick the player into unknowingly betraying Grovyle, paving the way for him to destroy both of them (and the partner, whom he had likely felt had gotten too close) in one shot. The plan worked to perfection as the player's damaged memory prevented them from recognizing Dusknoir for the villain he was.<br />
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While Grovyle is emotionally crushed by both his plans failing and having unconsciously attacked his own partner and the player struggles to process what they heard about their past, the partner has a plan to elude Dusknoir and his underlings—all that is needed is to have Celebi teleport them closer to the Passage. Although Celebi recognizes that Dialga could detect them, Celebi agrees to the partner's idea. They fail to escape Dusknoir, but they get to the Passage. Celebi implores the rest of the group to leave through the Passage, leaving Dusknoir to herself. It is believed that Celebi managed to elude capture as the group returned back to the present.<br />
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===Racing the clock===<br />
Arriving back to the present, the partner explains that the beach that they are on was where the player was first found. However, before the partner can lead Grovyle back to the Guild to plan their next move, he reminds them that in the present time, Grovyle is a criminal. The partner, seeing the complications this may cause, instead takes the player and Grovyle to a cliff known as [[Sharpedo Bluff]] (named as the cliff is in the shape of a {{p|Sharpedo}}), which was the home of the partner prior to joining the Guild. That night, Grovyle explains to the partner the common history between himself and the player. The player and Grovyle had been a formidable team investigating the planet's paralysis. The player had the ability to perform the Dimensional Scream, but only in the presence of a trusted partner. Grovyle further explains that the Dimensional Scream is set off by triggers tied to places where Time Gears were hidden. The partner, however, is unsure how accurate Grovyle's statement is: the Dimensional Scream was going off not long after the two of them met and, in several instances, it had gone off in places unrelated to Time Gears. Grovyle is undeterred and states that this is likely due to the player, because of the memory loss, found the partner as a strong support system and theorizes that perhaps the Dimensional Screams had worked differently in the past. In any event, the three quickly agree to plot a new plan to take the Time Gears.<br />
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Later, the partner shares their story of the Relic Fragment with Grovyle and the two share a sunrise. Grovyle and the partner agree that the player has a connection to the both of them - the player had made each of them stronger. The trio redoubles their efforts to retake the Time Gears, starting with the one in Treeshroud Forest, where Grovyle had found the one unguarded. However, after arriving there, they find that, despite the presence of the Time Gear, time has stopped—a sign that Temporal Tower is already starting to collapse. That night, back at Sharpedo Bluff, the partner reveals, after a fact-finding mission, that time in other places is also stopped, despite the return of the Time Gears. It appears that the only way to restore time is to take the Time Gears to Temporal Tower. This is easier said than done though: the Tower is located in the [[Hidden Land]], and, as the name suggests, no one knows where the Hidden Land is. Therefore, while Grovyle gathers the remaining Time Gears, the player and partner are to search for any leads on the Hidden Land's location.<br />
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Desperate, and running out of options and time, the player convinces the partner to return back to the Guild. The Guild is surprised to find that the team has returned, but is more surprised when the team reveals their story. Chatot, however, acts unconvinced and tries to write it off as shock fueled exhaustion from the two of them going through time, but when the rest of the Guild sides with them due to inconsistencies between the image Dusknoir presented and the actions he took after Grovyle was caught, he reveals it was nothing more than a test in the Guild's faith in the team. With them understanding what the world’s fate will be, the Guild agrees to help search for the Hidden Land, and tells the lake trio to allow Grovyle to reclaim the ones they guard. The team is recommended by Wigglytuff to see {{mdc|Torkoal|2}}, the town elder, for advice on finding the Hidden Land. At the hot springs, Torkoal reveals that the Hidden Land is a place beyond the oceans, but also a place which only appears to those with sufficient "proof". However, Torkoal does not recall what is needed for such "proof". The next day, however, Torkoal arrives at the Guild Hall with one new recollection—the "proof" is an inscription of a certain pattern—the same pattern found in the Relic Fragment. What is more surprising is that Wigglytuff and Chatot have also seen the same pattern—found in a distant place called [[Brine Cave]], where bandits had scared the two in an earlier adventure. Nevertheless, the Guild decides to make an expedition to Brine Cave. Meanwhile, the team hears word that Grovyle has taken all the Time Gears, but warns that Dusknoir may also return from the future to hunt them down.<br />
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The next day, The Guild (without Wigglytuff, who had left the day before to 'take care of some business') arrives at Brine Cave, where they split up to reach the innermost part, with Chatot following the team. However, partway into the cave, they are ambushed by Team Skull, who coerced the information out of Torkoal and steal the Relic Fragment with the intention of going to the Hidden Land simply for the glory of finding it. Though Chatot gives chase and manages to catch them, by the time the team manages to catch up, they find both Team Skull and Chatot severely wounded, due to themselves having been ambushed by two {{p|Omastar}} and {{p|Kabutops}}. After dispatching them, the team tend to Chatot. Just then, Wigglytuff and Grovyle arrive, with the rest of the Guild in tow. Wigglytuff is particularly concerned, as Chatot had been severely injured by the Omastar and Kabutops protecting Wigglytuff in their last trip to Brine Cave. Urging the team and Grovyle to continue, the Guild return home to tend to Chatot's wounds. Further in, the team discovers a rock wall pointing out to sea, on which is a wall pattern similar to the one found on the Relic Fragment. When the Relic Fragment is presented, a light shines out towards the sea. Just then, a {{mdc|Lapras|2}} arrives and informs them that they have been chosen to head to the Hidden Land. At the same time, back at the Guild, Wigglytuff explains to the Guild the story of how he and Chatot had previously encountered the pattern on the Relic Fragment: Chatot had been injured by Omastar and Kabutops while protecting Wigglytuff. Though Wigglytuff had fended off the Omastar and Kabutops, he had felt helpless because he could not help Chatot. Just then, Lapras had appeared to help Chatot on the condition that they not explore the wall pattern further. Back with the team, Lapras, while ferrying the team and Grovyle, explains that she is the gatekeeper to the Hidden Land, a land that exists in a different dimension—within a moment of time. The Hidden Land is as such because Dialga had feared that interference by exploration teams or bad Pokémon could affect the flow of time. Dialga had, however, left one key to entering the Hidden Land, within the Relic Fragment. Wigglytuff had known this, and had realized that the promise to Lapras could not be kept in the interest of saving the world, and thus had set off towards Brine Cave ahead of the Guild to find Lapras. Lapras explained to Wigglytuff then that the Relic Fragment chooses who may visit the Hidden Land, and it had chosen the partner due to the partner's purity of heart. Now, it lies upon the team to explore the land and save the world.<br />
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===Saving the world===<br />
Arriving at the Hidden Land, Lapras tells them that in order to reach the Temporal Tower, they must take the Rainbow Stoneship, located inside an old ruin. Finding the ruin, the partner is astounded at what they can find—pictures of legendary Pokémon {{p|Mew}}, {{p|Kyogre}}, {{p|Groudon}}, Dialga, and {{p|Palkia}} engraved on the wall. Proceeding further, they find a temple where, at the top, they find the Ruin Fragment pattern. The team discovers that the temple itself is the Rainbow Stoneship, and in order for the ship to operate, the Relic Fragment must be slotted in one of the indentations. But before the partner can do so, they are captured by Dusknoir and the Sableye entourage, whom, after discerning that they would likely wind up there, had Primal Dialga warp them there directly. Dusknoir takes their captives to a nearby Dimensional Hole, but before the team can be put through it, they overwhelm the Sableye, prompting Dusknoir to fight back. The team is able to defeat Dusknoir in battle, but while the partner goes to activate the Rainbow Stoneship, Dusknoir pulls out one final trump card: he warns that should they succeed in their quest, the Pokémon of the future, including himself, the player and Grovyle, will be erased from existence because they are from a future that will no longer exist. Grovyle admits that this is the case, but that their sacrifice is worth the trouble if it means that the future can be saved. The player accepts this fate, even though they know that the partner will not take it as easily as the player or Grovyle.<br />
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Meanwhile, the partner succeeds in activating the Rainbow Stoneship, but Dusknoir manages to recover and attack the player before either the player or Grovyle is on board. Just as Dusknoir tries to finish off the player, Grovyle intervenes. In a move of desperation, Grovyle pushes Dusknoir towards the Dimensional Hole, hoping that in his own sacrifice, Grovyle will erase Dusknoir from existence. Dropping the Time Gears, Grovyle pushes Dusknoir and himself through the Dimensional Hole, but not without giving his last goodbye. The partner recovers the Time Gears, and the team proceed on the Rainbow Stoneship, with the player keeping silent to the partner about their fate. With a heavy heart, the team head towards Temporal Tower to take on their final mission.<br />
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Arriving at the top of Temporal Tower as the tower itself is collapsing, they find a mystical relic with five indentations. Before the partner slots in the Time Gears into the indentations, the team is attacked by none other than Dialga, having just gone berserk but is shifting in and out of varying stages of sanity. Realizing that there is no reasoning with Dialga, the team prepare to battle it out to the end. After a long battle, Dialga is defeated, and the partner takes the opportunity to install the Time Gears. The earthquakes destroying the tower eventually stop, and Dialga is restored back to normal. Dialga quickly uses its powers to restore the world back to normal, though Temporal Tower remains heavily damaged. Dialga explains that the world's paralysis has been prevented with the installation of the Time Gears, and that peace has been restored. Dialga says its thanks to the team, but also warns that the world can only be back to normal in time. Dialga shows the team out of the Temporal Tower, where the Rainbow Stoneship and Lapras are awaiting them for their ride home.<br />
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On the way back, the player feels the effects of being slowly erased from existence. The partner notices this, and wonders what is wrong. The player says their goodbyes, regretting that the partner was kept in the dark on the player's situation and requests that they inform everyone what had happen in order to prevent another incident. The player slowly fades out of existence as the partner makes their tearful goodbye. The partner returns home, crying, but knowing that the player has made the partner stronger. Back home, the partner tells the townsfolk and the guild everything—how they had traveled across the [[Hidden Land]], how Grovyle and the player had sacrificed themselves, and how they had saved the world.<br />
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Months have passed since the incident, and the damages from time have slowly been healed, and life has returned to normal for most... but not for the partner, still mourning over the player's disappearance. At the beach, the partner is taking a walk, when the partner is reminded of the player and their adventures together, and how now the player is gone—erased from existence. The partner collapses on the beach out of extreme sadness, and starts crying. The end credits roll at this point.<br />
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After the credits, Dialga feels the partner's great sorrow in the distance. Using its powers, Dialga brings the player back to life as thanks for bringing it back in control. The player reappears at the beach, where the partner and Bidoof, who was concerned about the partner when they failed to return in time for dinner, are overjoyed to find the player alive.<br />
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===Post-game story===<br />
As with previous games, there is a post-credits story. Several months after the player was brought back, Wigglytuff decides that the player's team is ready for an exam to qualify for graduation from the Guild (apparently only accepting one team per year and ahead of the others as Wigglytuff and Chatot view them saving the world as higher qualification). They are told to go find the treasure found in [[Luminous Spring]], a place where Pokémon used to go to evolve, but are also warned to avoid the "grand master of all things bad" who lives there with his minions. Although Loudred is not allowed to speak of the test, having failed it the year before, {{p|Ursaring}} and {{p|Teddiursa}}, two Treasure Town locals, claim of going to the springs before and meeting no such "Grand Master". Upon reaching the spring, the team run into Ursaring and Teddiursa and conclude that the "Grand Master" does not exist before falling into the lair of the "Grand Master", who turns out to be none other than Wigglytuff and the guild members (revealed due to a slip up by Bidoof), though they continue to (poorly) deny it till the end. After defeating the whole guild, the team continues their journey with Ursaring and Teddiursa. They find that the treasure is actually a {{DL|Food (Mystery Dungeon)|Perfect Apple}} left in a chest by Wigglytuff himself (through the help of the player's Dimensional Scream). They also find the Luminous Spring to be able to evolve Pokémon again, as Teddiursa evolves into an Ursaring after she steps into the spring and made her choice to evolve. The team, however, is told by the voice of the spring that they couldn't evolve yet, due to space being distorted. Later, they return the treasure to the guild and graduate, finding that the only benefit is that they can explore on their own and change the group leader, but they still have to give most of their reward money to the guild. Having graduated, the team moves their headquarters to Sharpedo Bluff.<br />
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Then, {{p|Mr. Mime}} appears in Treasure Town stating the famous explorer {{p|Scizor}} has been missing in a place called the [[Blizzard Island]]. The team pays a visit and finds Scizor frozen solid by a possessive {{p|Froslass}}. After they rescue Scizor, Scizor gives the team the "[[Rank (Mystery Dungeon)|Secret Rank]]" which the team and everyone else knows nothing about. This rank is used for the 7 dungeons home to the great [[Seven Treasures]].<br />
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One day, the player finds Corphish at the Guild's intersection, saying to go talk to Sunflora about something. When Sunflora is found on the lower level, she says that there is a Mystery Dungeon that has recently become possible to enter. This dungeon is called the [[Surrounded Sea]], supposedly home to hundreds of rare treasures brought by the currents that run through it. At the end of Surrounded Sea, there are three Deluxe Boxes and a {{pkmn|Egg|Wonder Egg}}. The next morning, the Egg hatches into a {{p|Manaphy}}. The team goes to see Chatot, who says that Manaphy are extremely rare. This makes the team take extra good care of it. A day later, the team takes Manaphy for a walk by the beach, which makes baby Manaphy incredibly happy. That night, however, when the team is asleep, Manaphy stays up and longingly stares out at the sea, eventually resorting to go to the shore. When the team wakes and finds Manaphy missing in the morning, they run around in a panic, trying to find it. They finally find it at the beach, where it suddenly keels over in the sand. Once the team reports to Chatot, the bird says that Manaphy are really supposed to grow up in the ocean. However, Manaphy's current ailment could only be cured by the Phione Dew, located in [[Miracle Sea]]. At the end of the dungeon, there are six {{p|Phione}}, who are driven away suddenly by an enraged, treasure-seeking {{p|Gyarados}}. After defeating Gyarados, he runs away, and in their thanks, the Phione gives the player the Phione Dew. After Manaphy is cured and with a few days of rest, a Pokémon named {{p|Walrein}} is told by Chatot to take care of Manaphy under the sea. With a tearful farewell, Manaphy is taken to its home. <br />
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After a couple of days of plain jobs, [[Team Charm]] pays a visit to the Guild. Team Charm consists of {{p|Lopunny}}, {{p|Medicham}}, and {{p|Gardevoir}}. This trio is legendary for their rank, which is the Master Rank, and for their style of treasure hunting. A former member, surprisingly, is Wigglytuff. Team Charm came because they're stuck on a hunt for treasure because they don't have a key to a specific dungeon, [[Aegis Cave]]. They ask Wigglytuff and Wigglytuff "claims" that he doesn't have it. But just before everyone thinks Team Charm will leave, Lopunny gives Wigglytuff a Perfect Apple and Wigglytuff finds the key with a big bang from his room. When Team Charm is leaving, everyone asks if they can go to Aegis Cave, including the player's team. Lopunny, the leader of Team Charm, agrees and says everyone can go after they open Aegis Cave with the key. The treasure of Aegis Cave is guarded by three legendary beings, {{p|Regice}}, {{p|Regirock}}, and {{p|Registeel}}. After defeating them, Team Charm, who went on ahead but were defeat by Registeel, assists the player in fighting {{p|Regigigas}} and several {{p|Bronzong}} and {{p|Hitmonlee}}. Upon their defeat, a tremor suddenly hits the cave, forcing everyone to flee. Though initially disheartened at the prospect of failing the treasure hunt, they notice that a separate cave has opened nearby and realize that Aegis Cave was nothing more than a distraction to keep others away from where the treasure really was, though Team Charm concedes the credit to the player's team before departing.<br />
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Later, a Pokémon named '{{p|Cresselia}}' appears in the player's dreams and tells the player that their existence is causing a distortion in space due to being from a future that no longer exists. At the same time, she also appears in the partner's dreams and makes the same claim based on the partner having traveled to the altered future. Though they initially dismiss this, the player and partner later discover that Azurill is trapped within a nightmare and is unable to wake up. As they and the Guild struggle to come up with a solution, a stray comment Bidoof makes about entering the dream causes the player and partner to seek out Drowzee, the first criminal they ever caught. Finding him on a spiritual quest to try and atone for his criminal past, Drowzee is initially hesitant to help, but the partner convinces him when they reveal Azurill's condition. Upon entering Azurill's nightmare (in itself [[The Nightmare|another Mystery Dungeon]]), the encounter 'Cresselia' again, who tells them that the only way the nightmare and the distortion can be ended is if they disappeared. This devastates the partner emotionally to the point that they consider going through with it, but the player points out several inconsistencies with this: there is no proof that what 'she' said is guaranteed to actually work and that even though the space distortion is similar to what happened with Temporal Tower, the player's earlier sacrifice was nothing more than a byproduct necessary to ensure their dark future didn't come to pass.<br />
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Determined to find an answer that doesn't involve them disappearing, the team visits Lapras, who reveals that Palkia, the master of space, might hold some clue as to how to fix it. On the night before going to Palkia for an explanation, Palkia itself attacks the team, spiriting them away to its domain, the [[Spacial Rift]]. They battle Palkia for answers, but it gets trapped in a nightmare. After being sent inside Palkia's nightmare, 'Cresselia' tries to finish off the team, but when Palkia, who had been told in its own dreams that the player and partner were a threat, begins to question whether 'her' claims on the matter were accurate, it is stopped by another Cresselia, who reveals that the first was an impostor by the name of {{mdc|Darkrai|2}}, who reveals itself to be the one distorting space. When Cresselia attempts to subdue Darkrai, he escapes, though he invites the team to confront him at a volcanic dungeon called the [[Dark Crater]].<br />
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As Palkia attempts to regain control of the space distortion from Spacial Rift, Cresselia and the team head back to Treasure Town, where Cresselia uses her power to pull Azurill out of his nightmare as well. Although Darkrai invites the team to stop him, Cresselia, who reveals that their 'space distortion' was too small for anyone (even Palkia) to consider it a serious threat, that Darkrai was also behind Temporal Tower's sabotage, and that he was harassing the team out of fear that they might once again interfere with his plans, thinks it is a trap because normally Darkrai would run away when found, doing his work in the shadows and only coming out to finish the job. The team decides to heed Darkrai's call, and Darkrai reveals his plans: by stopping time or space, the world would stop and be covered in darkness, and all Pokémon would share an everlasting nightmare, in which Darkrai would rule. In addition to this, Darkrai also reveals that he had been responsible for the player's very own transformation and memory loss: having discovered the player and Grovyle's imminent arrival from the future, Darkrai attacks the two while they were going through time, but the player protected Grovyle from the attack, which led them to becoming a Pokémon; because Darkrai assumed what he did to the player was sufficient, he disregarded the idea that they might find out what was happening and interfere again, resulting in his initial plan failing. Darkrai lets the team decide if they want to join him ruling the world in darkness. The partner apparently decides that it's useless to resist, so they decide to join Darkrai, but this event is not real. The player realizes this is just another illusion, and breaks free of it. With the partner back on the player's side, the team battles Darkrai and his minions and wins. Darkrai attempts to flee through a Dimensional Hole, but Palkia arrives and attempts to stop Darkrai from leaving by unleashing an attack on him. Instead of destroying him, he attacks the Dimensional Hole, thus erasing Darkrai's memories, much like what happened to the player. Certain that Darkrai has no memory of his evil ambitions, Palkia, foreseeing no other reason to return, heads back to Spatial Rift while the player and partner return to Treasure Town to get back to their usual exploration team duties.<br />
<br />
==Blurb==<br />
Explore as a Pokémon in a world of Pokémon!<br />
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Discover secrets of Time and Darkness and form a team to explore the world!<br />
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Send out SOS Mails using Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection<br />
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==Characters==<br />
===Playable characters===<br />
In the beginning of the game, the player takes a quiz. The answers to these questions determine a nature that decides which Pokémon the player starts with.<br />
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{md time color dark}}; border: 5px solid #{{md darkness color}}"<br />
! style="background:#{{md time color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" rowspan="2" colspan="2" | {{color2|000|Pokémon}}<br />
! style="background:#{{md time color light}}" colspan="2" | {{color2|000|Nature}}<br />
! style="background:#{{md time color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" rowspan="2" | {{color2|000|Pokémon.com}} description <br />
|- style="background:#{{md time color light}}"<br />
! style="background:#{{md time color light}}" | {{color2|000|Gender|Male}}<br />
! style="background:#{{md time color light}}" | {{color2|000|Gender|Female}}<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP E 001.png]]<br />
! style="background:#{{grass color light}}" | {{pcolor|Bulbasaur|000}}<br />
| Lonely || Docile || Bulbasaur's {{a|Overgrow}} Ability powers up {{type|Grass|gen=md}} moves when it's weakened.<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP E 004.png]]<br />
! style="background:#{{fire color light}}" | {{pcolor|Charmander|000}}<br />
| Docile || Brave || This starter Pokémon wears its emotions on its tail&mdash;the flame on its tail, that is!<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP E 007.png]]<br />
! style="background:#{{water color light}}" | {{pcolor|Squirtle|000}}<br />
| Quirky || Bold || With its Water Terrain Ability, Squirtle can lead you across rivers and lakes!<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP E 025.png]]<br />
! style="background:#{{electric color light}}" | {{pcolor|Pikachu|000}}<br />
| Brave || Hasty || Pikachu is one of the starters you can choose from! We wonder if its Ability, {{a|Static}}, will come in to play?<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP E 052.png]]<br />
! style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | {{pcolor|Meowth|000}}<br />
| Sassy || Relaxed || If Meowth sees something Shiny, its eyes sparkle like jewels!<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP E 152.png]]<br />
! style="background:#{{grass color light}}" | {{pcolor|Chikorita|000}}<br />
| Calm || Quiet || Grass-type Pokémon like Chikorita can be found in forests.<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP E 155.png]]<br />
! style="background:#{{fire color light}}" | {{pcolor|Cyndaquil|000}}<br />
| Timid || Calm || Cyndaquil delivers a warm reception when it's angered or startled&mdash;its back erupts with fire!<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP E 158.png]]<br />
! style="background:#{{water color light}}" | {{pcolor|Totodile|000}}<br />
| Jolly || Sassy || Even its friends need to be careful of Totodile&mdash;it has a habit of biting anything with its developed jaws.<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP E 252.png]]<br />
! style="background:#{{grass color light}}" | {{pcolor|Treecko|000}}<br />
| Quiet || Hardy || After you battle in the [[Explorer Maze]], Treecko shows up to request a job.<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP E 255.png]]<br />
! style="background:#{{fire color light}}" | {{pcolor|Torchic|000}}<br />
| Hardy || Rash || Those who hug Torchic get an extra warm feeling because a fire burns inside its body!<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP E 258.png]]<br />
! style="background:#{{water color light}}" | {{pcolor|Mudkip|000}}<br />
| Rash || Lonely || Skilled in Water-type moves, Mudkip checks its surroundings using the fin on its head.<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP E 300.png]]<br />
! style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | {{pcolor|Skitty|000}}<br />
| Hasty || Naive || Skitty is so adorable that its {{a|Cute Charm}} Ability can even infatuate its foes.<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP E 387.png]]<br />
! style="background:#{{grass color light}}" | {{pcolor|Turtwig|000}}<br />
| Bold || Timid || Turtwig is a Grass-type Pokémon. Will it be powerful in grassy areas?<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP E 390.png]]<br />
! style="background:#{{fire color light}}" | {{pcolor|Chimchar|000}}<br />
| Naive || Impish || Using {{type|Fire}} moves with Chimchar will definitely help you out in a pinch.<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP E 393.png]]<br />
! style="background:#{{water color light}}" | {{pcolor|Piplup|000}}<br />
| Impish || Quirky || Piplup is friendly and enthusiastic. It will make a great Pokémon adventurer!<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP E 446.png]]<br />
! style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | {{pcolor|Munchlax|000}}<br />
| Relaxed || Jolly || Let's hope Munchlax's hunger doesn't stop it from being a great adventurer.<br />
|}<br />
After the player's character is determined, they then choose their partner Pokémon. The partner can be any of the [[Starter Pokémon]] from the first four Generations, including {{p|Pikachu}}. However, the partner cannot be the same [[type]] as the player.<br />
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===Non-player characters===<br />
{{main|List of Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time, Darkness, and Sky characters}}<br />
====Guild====<br />
[[File:Wigglytuff and Chatot.png|thumb|right|Wigglytuff and Chatot]]<br />
* {{mdc|Wigglytuff|2}} - Leader of the Wigglytuff Guild.<br />
* {{mdc|Chatot|2}} - Chatot is Wigglytuff's assistant, whom assigns jobs to the guild as a whole on a daily basis, as well as taking charge when Wigglytuff dozes off.<br />
* {{mdc|Loudred|2}} - This Pokémon guards the guild entrance gate and wakes up the player in the morning. <br />
* {{p|Diglett}} - Diglett assists Loudred; he identifies visitors by examining their footprints.<br />
* {{p|Dugtrio}} - Diglett's father; Calm and trustworthy, Dugtrio keeps the bulletin board current with the latest jobs.<br />
* {{p|Chimecho}} - Chimecho runs the Chimecho Assembly and summons guild members when it's time to eat.<br />
* {{p|Croagunk}} - Croagunk runs the guild's swap shop.<br />
* {{mdc|Sunflora|2}} - Sunflora is the senior member of the apprentices and is always happy and seems to cheer people up easily. She is optimistic and keeps a journal by her bedside.<br />
* {{p|Corphish}} - Corphish is very high-spirited and is usually quick to trust the player in high-stress situations. He has a tendency to start nearly all of his sentences with the phrase "Hey, hey!".<br />
* {{mdc|Bidoof|2}} - Bidoof is the previous newest guild member, prior to the player's arrival. He, too, keeps a journal at his bedside. Bidoof also has a habit of saying "yup yup" and "by golly," similar to Corphish's manner of speaking.<br />
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====Treasure Town====<br />
* {{p|Kangaskhan}} - As in previous Mystery Dungeon series, she will store items in [[Kangaskhan Storage]] for the player, though this time around there is a storage limit.<br />
* {{p|Xatu}} - Xatu will tell you what's in your [[Treasure Box]] - at a price.<br />
* {{p|Kecleon}} - As in previous Mystery Dungeon series, they run two shops, one for consumables, one for [[Wonder Orb]]s and [[TM]]s.<br />
* {{p|Duskull}} - Operates the Duskull Bank, where the player can store their extra cash, replacing the [[Felicity Bank]] run by {{p|Persian}}.<br />
* {{p|Electivire}} - Electivire will [[Linked move|link moves]] and allow the player to relearn forgotten moves, taking the place of {{P|Gulpin}}.<br />
* {{p|Chansey}} - Chansey runs the Day Care, and she is happy to take care of your Egg until it hatches!<br />
* {{p|Marowak}} - Marowak runs [[Marowak Dojo|the dojo]] where you can train and improve your battle skills, taking the place of {{P|Makuhita}}.<br />
* {{p|Magnezone}} - When you capture Pokémon fugitives, deliver them to Magnezone, the town sheriff.<br />
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====Exploration Teams====<br />
* Team Razor Wind<br />
** {{p|Zangoose}}<br />
** {{p|Scyther}}<br />
** {{p|Sandslash}}<br />
* Team Seedgey<br />
** {{p|Pidgey}}<br />
** {{p|Seedot}}<br />
* Team Glee<br />
** {{p|Togepi}}<br />
** {{p|Politoed}}<br />
** {{p|Ledyba}}<br />
* {{OBP|Team Skull|Mystery Dungeon}}<br />
** {{p|Skuntank}}<br />
** {{p|Koffing}}<br />
** {{p|Zubat}}<br />
* [[Team Charm]]<br />
** {{p|Lopunny}}<br />
** {{p|Gardevoir}}<br />
** {{p|Medicham}}<br />
* Team Tasty<br />
** {{p|Swellow}}<br />
** {{p|Wurmple}}<br />
* Team Poochy<br />
** {{p|Poochyena}} ×3<br />
* Team Ebony<br />
** {{p|Shuppet}}<br />
** {{p|Murkrow}}<br />
* Team Slacker<br />
** {{p|Slakoth}}<br />
** {{p|Slowpoke}}<br />
* Team Flame<br />
** {{p|Camerupt}}<br />
** {{p|Ponyta}}<br />
** {{p|Bellsprout}}<br />
* [[Team AWD]] (Japanese: 盗賊団MAD ''Team MAD'')<br />
** {{p|Arbok}}<br />
** {{p|Weavile}}<br />
** {{p|Drapion}}<br />
* Team Raider<br />
** {{p|Gallade}}<br />
** {{p|Roserade}}<br />
** {{p|Rhyperior}}<br />
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===Bosses===<br />
While most of the Bosses in this game are the standard [[Legendary Pokémon|legendaries]], there are some average Pokémon added to the mix. Unlike previous Mystery Dungeon games, the player may encounter multiple opponents that appear in certain dungeons. These are the list of boss battles are the following Dungeon based on the storyline order.<br />
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{md darkness color}}; border: 5px solid #{{md time color}}"<br />
! colspan="2" | Bosses<br />
! {{color2|000|Level}}<br />
! {{color2|000|Mystery dungeon|Dungeon}}<br />
|- rowspan="3" style="background: #{{md time color}}"<br />
! colspan="4" | Main Story<br />
|- style="background: #{{Poison color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 109.png]]<br>[[File:MDP E 041.png]]<br />
| ''{{pcolor|Koffing|000}}'' and ''{{pcolor|Zubat|000}}''<br />
| 6<br>3<br />
| {{color2|000|Beach Cave}} (Pit)<br />
|- style="background: #{{Psychic color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 096.png]]<br />
| {{mdc|Drowzee|2|c=000}}<br />
| 12<br />
| {{color2|000|Mt. Bristle}} (Peak)<br />
|- style="background: #{{Ground color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 383.png]]<br />
| {{pcolor|Groudon|000}} (Fake)<br />
| 30<br />
| {{color2|000|Steam Cave}} (16F)<br><br />
|- style="background: #{{Electric color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 405.png]]<br>[[File:MDP E 404.png]]<br />
| '''{{pcolor|Luxray|000}}''' and {{pcolor|Luxio|000}} ×8<br>{{color2|000|Amp Plains tribes}}<br />
| 33<br>18<br />
| {{color2|000|Amp Plains}} (20F)<br><br />
|- style="background: #{{Psychic color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 481.png]]<br />
| {{pcolor|Mesprit|000}}<br />
| 42<br />
| {{color2|000|Quicksand Cave}} (B21F)<br />
|- style="background: #{{Grass color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 253.png]]<br />
| {{mdc|Grovyle|2|c=000}}<br />
| 44<br />
| {{color2|000|Crystal Crossing}} (B14F)<br />
|- style="background: #{{Ghost color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 442.png]]<br />
| {{pcolor|Spiritomb|000}}<br />
| 37<br />
| {{color2|000|Sealed Ruin}} (Deep)<br />
|- style="background: #{{Rock color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 141.png]]<br>[[File:MDP E 139.png]]<br />
| '''{{pcolor|Kabutops|000}}'''<br>{{pcolor|Omastar|000}} ×2<br />
| 42<br>35<br />
| {{color2|000|Brine Cave}} (Lower)<br />
|- style="background: #{{Ghost color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 477.png]]<br>[[File:MDP E 302.png]]<br />
| '''{{mdc|Dusknoir|2|c=000}}'''<br>{{pcolor|Sableye|000}} ×6<br />
| 45<br>38<br />
| {{color2|000|Hidden Land}} (Old Ruins)<br />
|- style="background: #{{Steel color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 483P.png]]<br />
| {{color2|000|Primal Dialga}}<br />
| 48<br />
| {{color2|000|Temporal Tower}} (Pinnacle)<br />
|- rowspan="3" style="background: #{{md time color}}"<br />
! colspan="4" | Post-Story<br />
|- style="background: #{{Psychic color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 480.png]]<br />
| {{mdc|Uxie|2|c=000}}<br />
| 42<br />
| {{color2|000|Steam Cave}} (16F)<br />
|- style="background: #{{Psychic color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 481.png]]<br />
| {{pcolor|Mesprit|000}}<br />
| 42<br />
| {{color2|000|Quicksand Cave}} (B21F)<br />
|- style="background: #{{Psychic color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 482.png]]<br />
| {{pcolor|Azelf|000}}<br />
| 42<br />
| {{color2|000|Crystal Crossing}} (B14F)<br />
|- style="background: #{{Steel color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 483.png]]<br />
| {{color2|000|Primal Dialga|Dialga}}<br />
| 48<br />
| {{color2|000|Temporal Tower}} (Pinnacle) <br />
|- style="background: #{{Normal color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 040.png]]<br />
| '''{{mdc|Wigglytuff|2|c=000}}'''<br>{{color2|000|Wigglytuff's Guild}}<br />
| 50<br />
| {{color2|000|Mystifying Forest}} (14F)<br />
|- style="background: #{{Ice color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 478.png]]<br />
| {{pcolor|Froslass|000}}<br />
| 41<br />
| {{color2|000|Crevice Cave}} (Pit)<br><br />
|- style="background: #{{Water color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 130.png]]<br />
| {{pcolor|Gyarados|000}}<br />
| 46<br />
| {{color2|000|Miracle Sea|Deep Miracle Sea}} (4F)<br />
|- style="background: #{{Normal color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 486.png]]<br>[[File:MDP E 106.png]]<br>[[File:MDP E 437.png]]<br />
| '''{{pcolor|Regigigas|000}}'''<br>{{pcolor|Hitmonlee|000}} ×4<br>{{pcolor|Bronzong|000}} ×4<br />
| 49<br>35<br>35<br />
| {{color2|000|Aegis Cave|Aegis Cave Pit}}<br>(Regigigas's Chamber)<br />
|- style="background: #{{Water color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 484.png]]<br />
| {{mdc|Palkia|2|c=000}}<br />
| 48<br />
| {{color2|000|Spacial Rift}} (Bottom)<br />
|- style="background: #{{Dark color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 491.png]]<br>[[File:MDP E 306.png]]<br>[[File:MDP E 024.png]]<br>[[File:MDP E 219.png]]<br>[[File:MDP E 467.png]]<br>[[File:MDP E 429.png]]<br>[[File:MDP E 464.png]]<br />
| '''{{mdc|Darkrai|2|c=000}}'''<br>{{pcolor|Aggron|000}}<br>{{pcolor|Arbok|000}}<br>{{pcolor|Magcargo|000}}<br>{{pcolor|Magmortar|000}}<br>{{pcolor|Mismagius|000}}<br>{{pcolor|Rhyperior|000}}<br />
| 53<br>36<br>36<br>36<br>36<br>35<br>36<br />
| {{color2|000|Dark Crater}} (Bottom)<br />
|}<br />
====Item-required bosses====<br />
Some bosses will need the either the [[Mystery Part]] or [[Secret Slab]] in the player's bag while traversing certain dungeons.<br />
<br />
{| class="expandable roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{md darkness color}}; border: 5px solid #{{md time color}}"<br />
! colspan="2" | Pokémon<br />
! {{color2|000|Level}}<br />
! Location<br />
|- style="background: #{{Electric color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 145.png]]<br />
| {{pcolor|Zapdos|000}}<br />
| 49<br />
| {{color2|000|Amp Plains}} (7F)<br />
|- style="background: #{{Psychic color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 150.png]]<br />
| {{pcolor|Mewtwo|000}}<br />
| 50<br />
| {{color2|000|Aegis Cave}} Pit (5F)<br>{{color2|000|Dark Crater}} (6F)<br>({{color2|{{md darkness color}}|Darkness}} only)<br />
|- style="background: #{{Electric color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 243.png]]<br />
| {{pcolor|Raikou|000}}<br />
| 46<br />
| {{color2|000|Concealed Ruins}} (20F)<br><br />
|- style="background: #{{Fire color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 244.png]]<br />
| {{pcolor|Entei|000}}<br />
| 47<br />
| {{color2|000|Deep Dark Crater}}(10F)<br><br />
|- style="background: #{{Psychic color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 249.png]]<br />
| {{pcolor|Lugia|000}}<br />
| 45<br />
| {{color2|000|Surrounded Sea}} (18F)<br />
|- style="background: #{{Fire color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 250.png]]<br />
| {{pcolor|Ho-Oh|000}}<br />
| 43<br />
| {{color2|000|Mt. Mistral}} (19F)<br />
|- style="background: #{{Psychic color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 251.png]]<br />
| {{pcolor|Celebi|000}}<br />
| 44<br />
| {{color2|000|Mystifying Forest}} (10F)<br>({{color2|{{md time color}}|Time}} only)<br />
|- style="background: #{{Dragon color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 380.png]]<br />
| {{pcolor|Latias|000}}<br />
| 44<br />
| {{color2|000|Happy Outlook}} (19F)<br>{{color2|000|Spacial Rift}} (10F)<br />
|- style="background: #{{Dragon color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 381.png]]<br />
| {{pcolor|Latios|000}}<br />
| 44<br />
| {{color2|000|Midnight Forest}} (24F)<br>{{color2|000|Deep Spacial Rift}} (5F)<br />
|- style="background: #{{Psychic color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 386.png]]<br />
| {{pcolor|Deoxys|000}}<br />
| 45<br />
| {{color2|000|Shimmer Hill}} (17F)<br />
|- style="background: #{{Dark color}}"<br />
| [[File:MDP E 491.png]]<br />
| {{pcolor|Darkrai|000}}<br />
| 53<br />
| {{color2|000|Miracle Sea}} (3F)<br>{{color2|000|Lower Crevice Cave}} (2F)<br>{{color2|000|Mt. Travail (Explorers of Time, Darkness, and Sky)|Mt. Travail}} (17F)<br>{{color2|000|Spacial Rift}} (14F)<br>{{color2|000|Mystifying Forest}} (13F)<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Miscellaneous NPCs===<br />
* {{p|Krabby}} - They are the Pokémon that shoots out bubbles to the sky when sunset comes, it's really a great view!<br />
* {{p|Grovyle}} {{tt|Description|By Pokemon.com}} - Who is Grovyle, and why is it hunting Time Gears?<br />
* {{p|Vigoroth}} - Advertises the newest shops that open in Treasure Town.<br />
* {{p|Spoink}} {{tt|Description|By Pokemon.com}} Spoink always has a spring in its step—until it loses its treasured pearl. Can you help?<br />
* {{p|Marill}} {{tt|Description|By Pokemon.com}} Marill and his younger brother, Azurill, shop in Treasure Town. They might be looking for their Water Float.<br />
* {{p|Azurill}} {{tt|Description|By Pokemon.com}} Azurill and his older brother, Marill, shop in Treasure Town. They might be looking for their Water Float.<br />
* Celebi ({{Shiny}}) - A close friend of Grovyle in the future, and helps him to travel through time.<br />
* {{p|Lapras}} - Does it know the secret of the Hidden Land?<br />
* {{p|Torkoal}} - A very wise elder.<br />
* {{p|Scizor}} - A legendary explorer until he disappeared while searching for a valuable treasure...<br />
* {{p|Cresselia}} - She has been hunting Darkrai for years. Will she finally catch Darkrai?<br />
* {{p|Manaphy}} - Manaphy has hatched from a mysterious Egg found at the surrounded sea.<br />
* {{p|Phione}} - Phione are known for producing a dew that can act as a cure-all...<br />
<br />
==Wonder Mail exclusives==<br />
Like the previous [[Mystery Dungeon]] games, some dungeons are unlocked through [[Wonder Mail]] codes. However, unlike those in the previous game, the bosses (listed below) are obtained through these codes. There is no reward, other than the treasure, for the Guardians of the [[Seven Treasures]]. They are all top-secret and self-deleting. {{p|Gabite}}'s is more like a normal Wonder Mail mission. To take any of these {{OBP|Job|Mystery Dungeon|jobs}}, players must have gained Secret Rank, excluding the mission involving Gabite.<br />
<br />
{| class="expandable roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{md time color}}; border: 5px solid #{{md darkness color}}"<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="2" | Pokémon<br />
! colspan="3" | Wonder Mail Code<br />
|- style="background: #fff"<br />
| style="background: #{{ice color}}" rowspan="2" | [[File:MDP E 144.png]]<br />
| style="background: #{{ice color}}" rowspan="2" | {{pcolor|Articuno|000}}<br />
| <code>4MP=</code><br />
| <code>K98#</code><br />
| <code>CT%Y</code><br />
|- style="background: #fff"<br />
| <code>R@--</code><br />
| <code>&P7%</code><br />
| <code>%K86</code><br />
|- style="background: #fff"<br />
| style="background: #{{psychic color}}" rowspan="2" | [[File:MDP E 151.png]]<br />
| style="background: #{{psychic color}}" rowspan="2" | {{pcolor|Mew|000}}<br />
| <code>X%8S</code><br />
| <code>WYY+</code><br />
| <code>S-JF</code><br />
|- style="background: #fff"<br />
| <code>PFH@</code><br />
| <code>@##K</code><br />
| <code>5W8K</code><br />
|- style="background: #fff"<br />
| style="background: #{{water color}}" rowspan="2" | [[File:MDP E 382.png]]<br />
| style="background: #{{water color}}" rowspan="2" | {{pcolor|Kyogre|000}}<br />
| <code>FN01</code><br />
| <code>HWN-</code><br />
| <code>00%F</code><br />
|- style="background: #fff"<br />
| <code>8678</code><br />
| <code>+XY@</code><br />
| <code>&%#3</code><br />
|- style="background: #fff"<br />
| style="background: #{{ground color}}" rowspan="2" | [[File:MDP E 383.png]]<br />
| style="background: #{{ground color}}" rowspan="2" | {{pcolor|Groudon|000}} (Real)<br />
| <code>#&S6</code><br />
| <code>NY2&</code><br />
| <code>YJN=</code><br />
|- style="background: #fff"<br />
| <code>1P57</code><br />
| <code>F0MN</code><br />
| <code>MH7Y</code><br />
|- style="background: #fff"<br />
| style="background: #{{dragon color}}" rowspan="2" | [[File:MDP E 384.png]]<br />
| style="background: #{{dragon color}}" rowspan="2" | {{pcolor|Rayquaza|000}}<br />
| <code>HW+8</code><br />
| <code>66%T</code><br />
| <code>5S51</code><br />
|- style="background: #fff"<br />
| <code>+J5Y</code><br />
| <code>4-K#</code><br />
| <code>H@P-</code><br />
|- style="background: #fff"<br />
| style="background: #{{dragon color}}" rowspan="2" | [[File:MDP E 444.png]]<br />
| style="background: #{{dragon color}}" rowspan="2" | {{pcolor|Gabite|000}}*<br />
| <code>78SR</code><br />
| <code>-H2M </code><br />
| <code>P0+4</code><br />
|- style="background: #fff"<br />
| <code>Y6FY</code><br />
| <code>1&Y+</code><br />
| <code>#R9S</code><br />
|- style="background: #fff"<br />
| style="background: #{{fire color}}" rowspan="2" | [[File:MDP E 485.png]]<br />
| style="background: #{{fire color}}" rowspan="2" | {{pcolor|Heatran|000}}<br />
| <code>FH0T</code><br />
| <code>HYNH</code><br />
| <code>R0QF</code><br />
|- style="background: #fff"<br />
| <code>86N8</code><br />
| <code>+SY@</code><br />
| <code>&%YN</code><br />
|- style="background: #fff"<br />
| style="background: #{{ghost color}}" rowspan="2" | [[File:MDP E 487.png]]<br />
| style="background: #{{ghost color}}" rowspan="2" | {{pcolor|Giratina|000}}<br />
| <code>WNWY</code><br />
| <code>JXTK</code><br />
| <code>&5C1</code><br />
|- style="background: #fff"<br />
| <code>4N3-</code><br />
| <code>P4NM</code><br />
| <code>8K&C</code><br />
|-<br />
| style="background:#{{md time color}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" colspan="5" | <small>Notes:</small><br />
* <nowiki>*</nowiki><small>: Gabite cannot be recruited.</small><br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Code-exclusive recruits===<br />
The following Pokémon can be directly recruited only in the domains of the Guardians of the Seven Treasures. However, all of them can be obtained indirectly, either by evolution, as a mission reward or an Egg, except for the Guardians of the Seven Treasures.<br />
<br />
<br />
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{md darkness color}}; border: 3px solid #{{md time color}}"<br />
! {{color2|000|Shimmer Desert}}<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{md darkness color light}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"<br />
|- style="text-align:center"<br />
{{Moveentrytm|023|Ekans|1|Poison|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|024|Arbok|1|Poison|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|050|Diglett|1|Ground|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|051|Dugtrio|1|Ground|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|383|Groudon|1|Ground|gen=md}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{md darkness color}}; border: 3px solid #{{md time color}}"<br />
! {{color2|000|Sky Stairway}}<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{md darkness color light}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"<br />
|- style="text-align:center"<br />
{{Moveentrytm|026|Raichu|1|Electric|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|037|Vulpix|1|Fire|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|082|Magneton|2|Electric|Steel|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|089|Muk|1|Poison|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|092|Gastly|2|Ghost|Poison|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|093|Haunter|2|Ghost|Poison|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|094|Gengar|2|Ghost|Poison|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|112|Rhydon|2|Ground|Rock|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|132|Ditto|1|Normal|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|205|Forretress|2|Bug|Steel|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|208|Steelix|2|Steel|Ground|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|227|Skarmory|2|Steel|Flying|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|344|Claydol|2|Ground|Psychic|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|354|Banette|1|Ghost|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|355|Duskull|1|Ghost|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|372|Shelgon|1|Dragon|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|375|Metang|2|Steel|Psychic|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|384|Rayquaza|2|Dragon|Flying|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|425|Drifloon|2|Ghost|Flying|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|444|Gabite|2|Dragon|Ground|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|465|Tangrowth|1|Grass|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|468|Togekiss|2|Normal|Flying|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|470|Leafeon|1|Grass|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|476|Probopass|2|Rock|Steel|gen=md}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{md darkness color}}; border: 3px solid #{{md time color}}"<br />
! {{color2|000|Mystery Jungle (Explorers of Time, Darkness, and Sky)|Mystery Jungle}}<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{md darkness color light}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"<br />
|- style="text-align:center"<br />
{{Moveentrytm|003|Venusaur|2|Grass|Poison|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|071|Victreebel|2|Grass|Poison|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|151|Mew|1|Psychic|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|154|Meganium|1|Grass|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|252|Treecko|1|Grass|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|253|Grovyle|1|Grass|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|254|Sceptile|1|Grass|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|407|Roserade|2|Grass|Poison|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|428|Lopunny|1|Normal|gen=md}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{md darkness color}}; border: 3px solid #{{md time color}}"<br />
! {{color2|000|Bottomless Sea}}<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{md darkness color light}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"<br />
|- style="text-align:center"<br />
{{Moveentrytm|130|Gyarados|2|Water|Flying|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|382|Kyogre|1|Water|gen=md}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{md darkness color}}; border: 3px solid #{{md time color}}"<br />
! {{color2|000|Mt. Avalanche}}<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{md darkness color light}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"<br />
|- style="text-align:center"<br />
{{Moveentrytm|144|Articuno|2|Ice|Flying|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|348|Armaldo|2|Rock|Bug|gen=md}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{md darkness color}}; border: 3px solid #{{md time color}}"<br />
! {{color2|000|Giant Volcano}}<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{md darkness color light}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"<br />
|- style="text-align:center"<br />
{{Moveentrytm|485|Heatran|2|Fire|Steel|gen=md}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{md darkness color}}; border: 3px solid #{{md time color}}"<br />
! {{color2|000|World Abyss}}<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{md darkness color light}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"<br />
|- style="text-align:center"<br />
{{Moveentrytm|487|Giratina|2|Ghost|Dragon|gen=md}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Version-exclusive Pokémon==<br />
Certain Pokémon are only in certain versions. However, if the {{player}} unlocks an exclusive Pokémon that is not from their version through [[Wonder Mail]], they will be in the same place they would be in the game they were originally exclusive to.<br />
<br />
{| style="margin:auto"<br />
|- style="vertical-align:top"<br />
| <br />
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{md time color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{md time color}}"<br />
|-<br />
! {{color|{{md time color dark}}|Time}}<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{md time color light}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"<br />
|-<br />
{{Moveentrytm|012|Butterfree|2|Bug|Flying|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|251|Celebi|2|Psychic|Grass|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|415|Combee|2|Bug|Flying|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|417|Pachirisu|1|Electric|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|447|Riolu|1|Fighting|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|448|Lucario|2|Fighting|Steel|gen=md}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
| <br />
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{md darkness color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{md darkness color}}"<br />
! {{color|{{md darkness color dark}}|Darkness}}<br />
|-<br />
| <br />
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{md darkness color light}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"<br />
|- style="text-align:center"<br />
{{Moveentrytm|015|Beedrill|2|Bug|Poison|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|150|Mewtwo|1|Psychic|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|412|Burmy|1|Bug|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|427|Buneary|1|Normal|gen=md}}<br />
{{Moveentrytm|479|Rotom|2|Electric|Ghost|gen=md}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
While Combee is exclusive to Time and Burmy is exclusive to Darkness, their evolutions can be found in both versions. Buneary only appears in Darkness, however Lopunny can only appear in the Wonder Mail Dungeon Mystery Jungle, and appears there in both versions. Mewtwo and Celebi could be obtained in the opposite version only through a limited time Wi-Fi mission.<br />
<br />
===Wonder Mail codes===<br />
{| class="expandable roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{md darkness color}}; border: 5px solid #{{md time color}}"<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="2" | Pokémon<br />
! colspan="3" | Wonder Mail Code<br />
|- style="background: #fff"<br />
| style="background: #{{md darkness color light}}" rowspan="2" | [[File:MDP E 412.png]]<br />
| style="background: #{{md darkness color light}}" rowspan="2" | {{pcolor|Burmy|000}}<br />
| <code>XR2Y</code><br />
| <code>#==@</code><br />
| <code>JYX%</code><br />
|- style="background: #fff"<br />
| <code>3@2F</code><br />
| <code>Q8FQ</code><br />
| <code>R@M#</code><br />
|- style="background: #fff"<br />
| style="background: #{{md time color light}}" rowspan="2" | [[File:MDP E 415.png]]<br />
| style="background: #{{md time color light}}" rowspan="2" | {{pcolor|Combee|000}}<br />
| <code>X5&F</code><br />
| <code>@YKQ</code><br />
| <code>0-70</code><br />
|- style="background: #fff"<br />
| <code>@FWH</code><br />
| <code>0FX&</code><br />
| <code>P8Y9</code><br />
|- style="background: #fff"<br />
| style="background: #{{md time color light}}" rowspan="2" | [[File:MDP E 417.png]]<br />
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==Version-exclusive items==<br />
Many items are more readily available in one version than the other; for example Black Gummi is available in numerous dungeons in Darkness, but only in few specific dungeons in Time.<br />
<br />
There are also certain items that are completely exclusive to one of the versions outside of trading with other players, Wonder Mail missions, or friend rescue of that version.<br />
===Exclusive to Time===<br />
* {{DL|Seed|Vile Seed}} &mdash; Reduces Defense and Special Defense when eaten.<br />
* {{DL|Wonder Orb|All-Mach Orb}} &mdash; An item that ups Movement Speed of all team members by one level.<br />
* {{DL|Wonder Orb|Foe-Hold Orb}} &mdash; An item that afflicts all enemies on the floor with the Petrified status condition.<br />
* {{DL|Wonder Orb|Spurn Orb}} &mdash; An item that warps all foes in the same room to another place on the floor.<br />
* {{DL|Scarf (Mystery Dungeon)|Bounce Band}} &mdash; A held item that makes thrown items bounce straight back from the Pokémon.<br />
* {{DL|Scarf (Mystery Dungeon)|Curve Band}} &mdash; A held item that makes thrown items bounce off walls and fly sideways along walls. It has no effect if the Pokémon has a Pierce status or if throws a rock.<br />
* {{DL|Scarf (Mystery Dungeon)|Detect Band}} &mdash; A held item that boosts the Pokémon's Evasion.<br />
* {{DL|Scarf (Mystery Dungeon)|Heal Ribbon}} &mdash; A held item that speeds up the Pokémon's natural HP regeneration. The Pokémon's Belly will go down faster, however.<br />
* {{DL|Scarf (Mystery Dungeon)|Joy Ribbon}} &mdash; A held item that earns the holder 5 Exp. Points each time it takes damage of any sort.<br />
* {{DL|Scarf (Mystery Dungeon)|Mobile Scarf}} &mdash; A held item that enables the Pokémon to move and attack through walls and move on inhospitable terrain, such as magma.<br />
* {{DL|Scarf (Mystery Dungeon)|Pass Scarf}} &mdash; A held item that passes on attacks to a Pokémon next to it and drains the holder's Belly each time.<br />
* {{DL|Scarf (Mystery Dungeon)|Pierce Band}} &mdash; A held item that makes thrown items go through walls and Pokémon.<br />
* {{DL|Scarf (Mystery Dungeon)|Racket Band}} &mdash; A held item that wakes up every hostile Pokémon in the room it enters. It only works on enemies that are asleep from the start.<br />
* {{DL|Scarf (Mystery Dungeon)|Tight Belt}} &mdash; A held item that prevents the Belly from going down.<br />
* {{DL|Scarf (Mystery Dungeon)|Warp Scarf}} &mdash; A held item that occasionally warps the Pokémon to another place on the floor.<br />
* {{DL|Glasses|Lockon Specs}} &mdash; A held item that boosts the Pokémon's accuracy when it throws items at enemies.<br />
<br />
<br />
In addition to those items, [[TMs]] for the following moves only appear in Explorers of Time.<br />
<br />
* {{m|Attract}}<br />
* {{m|Avalanche}}<br />
* {{m|Blizzard}}<br />
* {{m|Bullet Seed}}<br />
* {{m|Calm Mind}}<br />
* {{m|Charge Beam}}<br />
* {{m|Dark Pulse}}<br />
* {{m|False Swipe}}<br />
* {{m|Flash}}<br />
* {{m|Flash Cannon}}<br />
* {{m|Fling}}<br />
* {{m|Giga Drain}}<br />
* {{m|Grass Knot}}<br />
* {{m|Ice Beam}}<br />
* {{m|Light Screen}}<br />
* {{m|Iron Tail}}<br />
* {{m|Pluck}}<br />
* {{m|Psychic}}<br />
* {{m|Recycle}}<br />
* {{m|Reflect}}<br />
* {{m|Rest}}<br />
* {{m|Return}}<br />
* {{m|Roar}}<br />
* {{m|Rock Slide}}<br />
* {{m|Safeguard}}<br />
* {{m|Shadow Claw}}<br />
* {{m|Skill Swap}}<br />
* {{m|Silver Wind}}<br />
* {{m|Solar Beam}}<br />
* {{m|Steel Wing}}<br />
* {{m|Stone Edge}}<br />
* {{m|U-turn}}<br />
* {{m|Wide Slash}}<br />
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===Exclusive to Darkness===<br />
* {{DL|Seed|Hunger Seed}} &mdash; Decreases maximum belly by 5. For non-leader Pokémon inflicts the Hungry Pal status.<br />
* {{DL|Seed|Vanish Seed}} &mdash; Inflicts the Invisible status condition.<br />
* {{DL|Seed|Violent Seed}} &mdash; Boosts Attack and Special Attack stats when eaten.<br />
* {{DL|Wonder Orb|All-Hit Orb}} &mdash; An item that makes the user and team go into a Focus Energy status for a short time, raising the critical hit ratio.<br />
* {{DL|Wonder Orb|Foe-Seal Orb}} &mdash; An item that afflicts all enemies in the room with a Paused status condition.<br />
* {{DL|Wonder Orb|Foe-Fear Orb}} &mdash; An item that changes the status of foes in the room to Terrified, making them run away from the user.<br />
* {{DL|Wonder Orb|Pierce Orb}} &mdash; An item that changes the user's status to Pierce. Items thrown by the user will fly through walls and Pokémon without stopping.<br />
* {{DL|Scarf (Mystery Dungeon)|Dodge Scarf}} &mdash; A held item that prevents any thrown item from hitting the Pokémon.<br />
* {{DL|Scarf (Mystery Dungeon)|Patsy Band}} &mdash; A held item that increases the Pokémon's chances of taking critical hits from enemy moves and attacks.<br />
* {{DL|Scarf (Mystery Dungeon)|Sneak Scarf}} &mdash; A held item that prevents the Pokémon from awakening sleeping enemies. It only works on enemies that are asleep from the start.<br />
* {{DL|Scarf (Mystery Dungeon)|Trap Scarf}} &mdash; A held item that prevents traps from activating when the Pokémon steps on them.<br />
* {{DL|Scarf (Mystery Dungeon)|Twist Band}} &mdash; A held item that prevents the Pokémon's Attack and Special Attack from going down.<br />
* {{DL|Scarf (Mystery Dungeon)|Weather Band}} &mdash; A held item that shields the Pokémon from weather, as if it's always in Clear conditions.<br />
* {{DL|Glasses|Goggle Specs}} &mdash; A held item lets the Pokémon see hidden traps and Pokémon with Invisible status.<br />
* {{DL|Glasses|Insomniscope}} &mdash; A held item that prevents a Sleep status condition, a Nightmare status, a Napping status, or a Yawning status from being inflicted on the Pokémon.<br />
* {{DL|Glasses|No-Aim Scope}} &mdash; A held item that causes items thrown by the Pokémon to fly wildly in any direction.<br />
* {{DL|Glasses|Scope Lens}} &mdash; A held item that boosts the Pokémon's critical-hit rate for moves and attacks.<br />
* {{DL|Glasses|Whiff Specs}} &mdash; A held item that prevents items thrown by the Pokémon from hitting another Pokémon.<br />
* {{DL|Mystery Dungeon evolutionary items|Lunar Ribbon}} &mdash; An Item used for Pokémon that usually evolve at nighttime.<br />
<br />
<br />
In addition to those items, [[TMs]] for the following moves only appear in Explorers of Darkness.<br />
<br />
* {{m|Aerial Ace}}<br />
* {{m|Brick Break}}<br />
* {{m|Bulk Up}}<br />
* {{m|Captivate}}<br />
* {{m|Dive}}<br />
* {{m|Dragon Claw}}<br />
* {{m|Drain Punch}}<br />
* {{m|Dream Eater}}<br />
* {{m|Earthquake}}<br />
* {{m|Endure}}<br />
* {{m|Energy Ball}}<br />
* {{m|Explosion}}<br />
* {{m|Focus Blast}}<br />
* {{m|Focus Punch}}<br />
* {{m|Frustration}}<br />
* {{m|Gyro Ball}}<br />
* {{m|Natural Gift}}<br />
* {{m|Protect}}<br />
* {{m|Rock Polish}}<br />
* {{m|Shadow Ball}}<br />
* {{m|Sludge Bomb}}<br />
* {{m|Substitute}}<br />
* {{m|Swagger}}<br />
* {{m|Taunt}}<br />
* {{m|Thief}}<br />
* {{m|Thunder Wave}}<br />
* {{m|Trick Room}}<br />
* {{m|Torment}}<br />
* {{m|Toxic}}<br />
* {{m|Water Pulse}}<br />
* {{m|Will-O-Wisp}}<br />
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==Reception==<br />
Gaming magazine {{wp|Famitsu}} gave Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness a score of 35 out of 40. {{wp|IGN}} rated the games an "Okay" 6.5/10.<ref>[https://www.ign.com/articles/2008/04/22/pokemon-mystery-dungeon-explorers-of-time-review Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time Review - IGN]</ref> Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness hold a rating of 62.39%<ref>[https://www.gamerankings.com/ds/938931-pokemon-mystery-dungeon-explorers-of-time/index.html Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time for DS - GameRankings]</ref> and 61.25%,<ref>[https://www.gamerankings.com/ds/938930-pokemon-mystery-dungeon-explorers-of-darkness/index.html Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Darkness for DS - GameRankings]</ref> respectively, on {{wp|GameRankings}}.<br />
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===Sales===<br />
In the fiscal year of their release, they sold 1.58 million units.<ref>[https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2008/080425e.pdf#page=6 Nintendo Co., Ltd. - Financial Results Briefing for Fiscal Year Ended March 2008]</ref> As of March 31, 2009, Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness have sold 4.50 million copies worldwide.<ref>[https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2009/090508e.pdf#page=6 Nintendo Co., Ltd. - Financial Results Briefing for Fiscal Year Ended March 2009]</ref><br />
<br />
====Japanese sales====<br />
Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness sold 568,888 units on their first week on the Japanese market, being 300,295 from Explorers of Time and 268,593 from Explorers of Darkness, with a {{wp|sell-through}} of 64.43% and 61.17% respectively. By December 29, 2013, the end of their 329th week, they had sold 1,516,375 copies, being 805,418 from Explorers of Time and 710,957 from Explorers of Darkness.<br />
<br />
{|<br />
|- style="vertical-align:top"<br />
|<br />
''Explorers of Time''<br />
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{MD Time color dark}}; background:#{{MD Time color}}"<br />
! style="background:#{{MD Time color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Week<br />
! style="background:#{{MD Time color light}}" | Week ending<br />
! style="background:#{{MD Time color light}}" | Ranking<br />
! style="background:#{{MD Time color light}}" | Units sold<br />
! style="background:#{{MD Time color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Total units sold<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 1<br />
| September 16, 2007<br />
| 2nd<br />
| 300,295<br />
| 300,295<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 2<br />
| September 23, 2007<br />
| 3rd<br />
| 85,149<br />
| 385,444<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 3<br />
| September 30, 2007<br />
| 2nd<br />
| 55,438<br />
| 440,882<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 4<br />
| October 7, 2007<br />
| 6th<br />
| 34,428<br />
| 475,310<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 5<br />
| October 14, 2007<br />
| 4th<br />
| 26,235<br />
| 501,545<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 6<br />
| October 21, 2007<br />
| 6th<br />
| 19,462<br />
| 521,007<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 7<br />
| October 28, 2007<br />
| 10th<br />
| 16,203<br />
| 537,210<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 8<br />
| November 4, 2007<br />
| 10th<br />
| 14,479<br />
| 551,689<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 9<br />
| November 11, 2007<br />
| 16th<br />
| -<br />
| -<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 10<br />
| November 18, 2007<br />
| 21st<br />
| -<br />
| -<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 11<br />
| November 25, 2007<br />
| 22nd<br />
| -<br />
| -<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 12<br />
| December 2, 2007<br />
| 27th<br />
| -<br />
| -<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 13<br />
| December 9, 2007<br />
| 22nd<br />
| -<br />
| -<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 14<br />
| December 16, 2007<br />
| 15th<br />
| -<br />
| -<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 15<br />
| December 23, 2007<br />
| 14th<br />
| -<br />
| -<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 16<br />
| December 30, 2007<br />
| 29th<br />
| -<br />
| 718,477<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 17<br />
| January 6, 2008<br />
| 23rd<br />
| -<br />
| -<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 18<br />
| January 13, 2008<br />
| 41st<br />
| -<br />
| -<!--<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 19<br />
| January 20, 2008<br />
| 50th<br />
| -<br />
| ---><br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 68<br />
| December 28, 2008<br />
| -<br />
| -<br />
| 792,592<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 121<br />
| January 3, 2010<br />
| -<br />
| -<br />
| 804,118<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 329<br />
| December 29, 2013<br />
| -<br />
| -<br />
| 805,418<br />
|-<br />
| style="background:#{{MD Time color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" colspan="5" |<br />
|}<br />
|<br />
''Explorers of Darkness''<br />
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{MD Darkness color dark}}; background:#{{MD Darkness color}}"<br />
! style="background:#{{MD Darkness color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Week<br />
! style="background:#{{MD Darkness color light}}" | Week ending<br />
! style="background:#{{MD Darkness color light}}" | Ranking<br />
! style="background:#{{MD Darkness color light}}" | Units sold<br />
! style="background:#{{MD Darkness color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Total units sold<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 1<br />
| September 16, 2007<br />
| 3rd<br />
| 268,593<br />
| 268,593<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 2<br />
| September 23, 2007<br />
| 4th<br />
| 75,040<br />
| 343,633<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 3<br />
| September 30, 2007<br />
| 5th<br />
| 45,743<br />
| 389,376<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 4<br />
| October 7, 2007<br />
| 8th<br />
| 28,513<br />
| 417,889<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 5<br />
| October 14, 2007<br />
| 6th<br />
| 22,375<br />
| 440,264<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 6<br />
| October 21, 2007<br />
| 8th<br />
| 16,248<br />
| 456,512<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 7<br />
| October 28, 2007<br />
| 12th<br />
| -<br />
| -<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 8<br />
| November 4, 2007<br />
| 14th<br />
| -<br />
| -<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 9<br />
| November 11, 2007<br />
| 20th<br />
| -<br />
| -<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 10<br />
| November 18, 2007<br />
| 27th<br />
| -<br />
| -<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 11<br />
| November 25, 2007<br />
| 29th<br />
| -<br />
| -<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 12<br />
| December 2, 2007<br />
| 31st<br />
| -<br />
| -<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 13<br />
| December 9, 2007<br />
| 28th<br />
| -<br />
| -<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 14<br />
| December 16, 2007<br />
| 18th<br />
| -<br />
| -<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 15<br />
| December 23, 2007<br />
| 17th<br />
| -<br />
| -<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 16<br />
| December 30, 2007<br />
| 32nd<br />
| -<br />
| 629,480<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 17<br />
| January 6, 2008<br />
| 27th<br />
| -<br />
| -<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 18<br />
| January 13, 2008<br />
| 49th<br />
| -<br />
| -<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 68<br />
| December 28, 2008<br />
| -<br />
| -<br />
| 699,360<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 121<br />
| January 3, 2010<br />
| -<br />
| -<br />
| 709,844<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| 329<br />
| December 29, 2013<br />
| -<br />
| -<br />
| 710,957<br />
|-<br />
| style="background:#{{MD Darkness color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" colspan="5" |<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Staff==<br />
{{main|Staff of Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness}}<br />
<br />
==Gallery==<br />
<gallery><br />
PMD Explorers of Time Logo JP.png|Japanese Explorers of Time logo<br />
PMD Explorers of Darkness Logo JP.png|Japanese Explorers of Darkness logo<br />
PMD Explorers of Time Logo EN.png|English Explorers of Time logo<br />
PMD Explorers of Darkness Logo EN.png|English Explorers of Darkness logo<br />
</gallery><br />
<br />
==Trivia==<br />
* Unlike the previous [[Mystery Dungeon]] games, which only had a few characters with confirmed [[gender]]s, this game provides a gender for most of the characters. Even [[Legendary Pokémon]], who are usually gender unknown in the [[Core series|main series]] games, have a gender in this game. <br />
* The names of [[Temporal Tower]] and [[Spacial Rift]] are based directly on the {{pkmn|category}} names of {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}}, who are respectively the "Temporal Pokémon" and the "Spatial Pokémon". This is not the case in the Japanese version, however, where Spacial Rift is named ''Sky Fissure'' and Temporal Tower is named ''Dimension Tower''.<br />
<br />
==In other languages==<br />
{{langtable|color={{MD Time color}}|bordercolor={{MD Darkness color light}}<br />
|ja={{tt|ポケモン不思議のダンジョン 時の探検隊|ポケモンふしぎのダンジョン ときのたんけんたい}}<br>{{tt|ポケモン不思議のダンジョン 闇の探検隊|ポケモンふしぎのダンジョン やみのたんけんたい}}<br />
|fr=Pokémon Donjon Mystère: Explorateurs de l'Ombre<br>Pokémon Donjon Mystère: Explorateurs du Temps<br />
|de=Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Erkundungsteam Zeit<br>Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Erkundungsteam Dunkelheit<br />
|it=Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Esploratori del Tempo<br>Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Esploratori dell'Oscurità<br />
|ko={{tt|포켓몬 불가사의 던전: 시간의 탐험대|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time}}<br>{{tt|포켓몬 불가사의 던전: 어둠의 탐험대|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Darkness}}<br />
|es=Pokémon Mundo misterioso: Exploradores del tiempo<br>Pokémon Mundo misterioso: Exploradores de la oscuridad}}<br />
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==External links==<br />
* [http://www.chunsoft.co.jp/games/pokedun2/index.html Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2 page on Chunsoft website] <small>(Japanese)</small><br />
* [http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/gameslist/manuals/DS_Pokemon_Mystery_Time.pdf Official PDF-file instruction manual] for ''Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time'' <small>(English)</small><br />
* [http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/gameslist/manuals/DS_Pokemon_Mystery_Darkness.pdf Official PDF-file instruction manual] for ''Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Darkness'' <small>(English)</small><br />
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<div>==Headers==<br />
I don't know about anyone else, but I think adding in "Pokemon" four times in one heading makes the article look WORSE. Before, it looked concise. Now it stretches the screen and it looks all muddled in the table of contents. I really don't think the full names are neccessary when the full name of the games have already been linked and noted earlier in the article. I think it was done to make things look professional, but instead it just makes the article look cluttered. {{unsigned|Zeta}}<br />
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<nowiki>Replacing === Heading === with &lt;h3>Headng&lt;/h3> for subsubsub headers would solve that.</nowiki> --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]<br />
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==Episode?==<br />
What episode was he in? [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 22:35, 21 February 2007 (UTC)<br />
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==Chuck?==<br />
Does anybody else think that he looks like [[Chuck]] a little bit? Just look at this picture of Bruno and then look at this picture of Chuck. http://www.geocities.com/pokemontours2/indexes/people/Johto/gym/chuck.htm --[[User:Theryguy512|Ryguy]] 14:06, 19 August 2007 (EST)<br />
:Well, they're both based on the classic "muscleman" stereotype. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 21:15, 19 August 2007 (UTC)<br />
::Chuck's just gone to seed a bit. Which I think his wife comments on. --[[User talk:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 21:41, 19 August 2007 (UTC)<br />
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==First Episode?==<br />
When looking at the figure, it was similar to Bruno, but the shadowy figure lacks any wrist accessories (Or whatever they're called).. So it might not be. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 15:00, 22 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:It's still entirely possible that it is Bruno, even though the figure already had an Onix. For one, the [[EP001]] Onix was normal, while the one Bruno captured onscreen was giant. Additionally, there's also [[Lance|one other case]] of a Kanto Elite Four having more than [[Lance's Gyarados|one of the same species]] in the anime, again in two distinct variations (except in the other case, it's color, not size, that's the difference). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:17, 22 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Should we really have Onix and Nidorino like it's confirmed? Because right now, we don't know if that was Bruno. No one said anything about the figure in the episode. [[User:J-J-M|<span style="color: #000033">'''J'''</span>]]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|<span style="color: #000099">'''J'''</span>]]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|<span style="color: #000033">'''M'''</span>]] 04:20, 18 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::I just looked at that scene, and I'm fairly sure that battle is Bruno vs Agatha. It would make sense, considering their positions and recalling [[DP100|the battle seen on TV between Aaron and Cynthia]]. Also, he is wearing the wrist things. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 06:37, 27 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
::::I also think that's Bruno vs. Agatha. But Agatha is not seen, so we can be sure only about Bruno, if it really is him. And if you ask from me, he looks like Bruno, so should Nidorino and the normal sized Onix be confirmed as his anime Pokémon? In EP001's Trivia it still reads that the shadowy figure is Bruno. And what so if he has some minor diffeneces for his later-seen -character appearance? Those might have just bee errors or the character's anime design wasn't totally complete yet. So should those two Pokémon be confirmed as his Pokémon and placed back to his anime Pokémon list along with mention of his appearance in EP001? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] 17:29, 14 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Fame Checker==<br />
I just added Bruno's Fame Checker phrases, but it is missing one from a man outside the Tanoby Keys on Seven Island. Additionally we still need the phrase when he is defeated. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 01:15, 15 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
:You can look it up. See the external link from [[Fame Checker]]. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#D5AA00"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 02:01, 15 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
::Or not...type "Fame Checker" on Google or something. You'll get some solid results. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#D5AA00"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 02:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::I put the ones up that I found and is complete. I will double check it against by FireRed copy once I get them. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 02:12, 15 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Another Lucario==<br />
Serebii.net confirms that Bruno owns a Lucario making him the fourth trainer to own one. [[User:Chomper4|Chomper4]] 23:22, 11 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Fantastic. It'll go in the party template, but not the trivia. By the time we get to four it stops being notable. How many Trainers use Blastoise, or Wigglytuff? There is a line drawn about trivia, and I think that one crosses it. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 00:59, 12 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
::It explicidly states '''Important''' NPCs. How many important NPC's owned Wigglytuff? --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 01:13, 12 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==First appearance==<br />
I think the shadowed Trainer with a strong resemblance to Bruno in the beginning of [[EP001]] should be at least mentioned in the section "{{DL|Bruno|In the anime}}". If so, here are [[a:File:Nidorino Horn Attack.png|images]] of [[a:File:Bruno EP001.png|him]] and his [[a:File:Onix EP001.png|Pokémon]]. —<font face="Segoe UI"><span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em">[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="#fff">The</font>]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="red">Best</font>]]</span></font> 21:47, 30 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==Different hometown possibilities==<br />
Since Bruno appears in generations 1-4, he appears in Kanto in 1 and 3; Johto in 2 and 4, is it possible that he could be from different hometowns? My reasons for asking are games/anime-based. In the game, he is first asked about in Saffron City, which has been shown to host a Fighting Dojo (anime; not sure about games and other media), the Saffron Gym, a Contest Hall (anime; not sure about games) and the Battle Arena (anime only). So for Kanto, he could be from Saffron City. As far as Johto goes, there's the fighting dojo (mentioned in the anime, alongside other places for Fighting trainers) and Cianwood City, where the Cianwood Gym is. So for Johto, it can be stated that he is from Cianwood City. I'm just wondering, despite my battles with him occurring years ago, it just sticks with me. [[User:WATERWARRIOR67|<span style="color: #000080">WATER</span>]][[User talk:WATERWARRIOR67|<span style="color: #4cbb17">Warrior</span>]]<span style="color: #000080">6</span><span style="color: #4cbb17">7</span> 19:06, 9 December 2014 (UTC)<br />
:That would be (very baseless) speculation. Unless Bruno's hometown is explicitly mentioned, we leave it blank. —<font face="Segoe UI"><span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em">[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="#fff">The</font>]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="red">Best</font>]]</span></font> 19:18, 9 December 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Oh. Now I feel like an idiot. [[User:WATERWARRIOR67|<span style="color: #000080">WATER</span>]][[User talk:WATERWARRIOR67|<span style="color: #4cbb17">Warrior</span>]]<span style="color: #000080">6</span><span style="color: #4cbb17">7</span> 17:23, 10 December 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::Nah, an idiot would edit it in themselves without bothering to consult the Talk page or a member of staff. You did the right thing, and Bulbapedia is all about learning, so don't sweat it! —<font face="Segoe UI"><span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em">[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="#fff">The</font>]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="red">Best</font>]]</span></font> 20:29, 10 December 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks. That can be easier said than done, though! [[User:WATERWARRIOR67|<span style="color: #000080">WATER</span>]][[User talk:WATERWARRIOR67|<span style="color: #4cbb17">Warrior</span>]]<span style="color: #000080">6</span><span style="color: #4cbb17">7</span> 22:32, 10 December 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Different hair colors ==<br />
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In the anime, Bruno's hair is black. However, in some of the games, color differentiates. In both versions of Stadium, his hair is an off shade of brown. Whereas in generations one and three, his hair appears black. In generation 2, his hair seems to be navy with a hint of gray in color. As for generation four, his hair seems to be cobalt blue, blue-gray, or whichever shade of blue gray hair Dawn and Lucas have in Platinum. Am I the only one who's noticed? Also, in the anime, was he supposed to appear tanned? Just asking. [[User:WATERWARRIOR67|<span style="color: #000080">WATER</span>]][[User talk:WATERWARRIOR67|<span style="color: #4cbb17">Warrior</span>]]<span style="color: #000080">6</span><span style="color: #4cbb17">7</span> 21:22, 29 December 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Standing up ==<br />
I know there are no sprites of him standing up, but is it noteworthy that Bruno stands up briefly in Pikachu and Eevee?--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 21:25, 26 December 2018 (UTC)</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Koga&diff=2877184Talk:Koga2018-11-11T20:39:48Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Reason For Absence */</p>
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>Janine was worried for her father, having no knowledge of his criminal past. <br />
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Um? There's a flashback where he tells her that some day she will 'enter into the service of his master'. And he's standing by a shrine to Giovanni at the time. So I think she knows. {{unsigned|Blackjack Gabbiani}}<br />
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I only read up to the part where she confronts Suicune, so that could be true, I guess. *shrugs*<br />
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Again, if you see anything on the pages, feel free to edit. They need a ton of work. {{unsigned|Zeta}}<br />
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>His Golbat's mouth can be used almost like a crystal ball to see things from a distance, even if walls or land are in the way. <br />
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I'm pretty sure that it's not a real Golbat that he uses that way, that it's a device. He crushes it in his fist--something he'd never be able to do to a real Golbat. {{unsigned|Blackjack Gabbiani}}<br />
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I just checked. Green takes Koga's Golbat and it's mouth displays pictures of Prof. Oak during the battle at Silph Co. An actual, living Golbat.<br />
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- Zeta<br />
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== Gym Leader template ==<br />
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Perhaps we need a Gym Leader template? Or some system of organizing them? Because they're in every category of the franchise, and seeing the three categories of characters plus the three stubs at the bottom of most looks REALLY bad. [[User:Evkl|Evkl]] 06:07, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)<br />
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And another thing--for Gym Leaders, their notable Pokes deserve their own pages (see [[Ash]] 's page for refrence), but when discussing the games, the links are to the dex articles proper. Pokemon not linked under the (Person)'s (Poke) should be left as plain text and not linked anywhere. However, remember to dex-ify all games-related links (see [[Red]].) [[User:Evkl|Evkl]] 06:17, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)<br />
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== Moltres ==<br />
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It says that both Koga and Sabrina had to catch Moltres...but Koga is seen with Articuno in volume 2. [[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 15:07, 15 February 2006 (CST)<br />
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== Notable ==<br />
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Which of his Pokemon are more notable? Venomoth or Golbat? [[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #006666">'''Jmath'''</span><sup>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #006699">Talk</span>]]</sup> 13:29, 5 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
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I'd say both {{u|ShinyMedicham}}<br />
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:And I'd say none. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 19:24, 28 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you for replying to a comment that's ''11 months'' old.[/sarcasm] [[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''Jm'''</span>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #000099">'''a'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''th'''</span>]] 19:29, 28 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Heh heh. It's never too late. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 19:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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Koga apears in ruby and saphire ? where ive never met him but he has a sprite so where can I find him ? [[User:Frosslass|Frosslass]] 13:56, 26 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
:...what are you talking about? No he doesn't.—[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 15:00, 26 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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My mistake he appears in generation 3 so I assumed it was in ruby and saphire, sorry ;P [[User:Frosslass|Frosslass]] 12:07, 28 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==gym pokemon==<br />
why do these pages not show the pokemon that the gym leader has i mean i know what he has in Firered but what about the older or newer versions of him--[[User:Ironknuckle1|Ironknuckle1]] 01:06, 13 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
:They do. Right there on the big purple templates in the middle of the games section. You just neen to click the "show" link to make them expand so that the page isn't the size of the moon. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|<small>(talk)</small>]] 01:14, 13 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Black Sludge & Leftovers. ==<br />
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Has there been any confirmed stealing of these items? Gastro Acid and possibly Mean Look should make it doable, but confirmation is always nice. --[[User:PLA|PLA]] 14:25, 29 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Confirmation GET! Used an Arbok with Gastro Acid and Thief vs. the Biker with a Gulpin on Cycling Road, got away with a Black Sludge. Should work with Koga as well. --[[User:PLA|PLA]] 21:12, 19 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Voice ==<br />
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Alright, there appears to be a conflict going on here in regards to Koga's anime voice. For years, it's been said that Ken Gates/Rodger Parsons did his voice, but now on Stan Hart's page, it claims he did the voice. I personally believe it's Rodger doing the voice, but what do you guys think? --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 01:52, 3 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Reason For Absence ==<br />
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Should it be mentioned in the article that the most likely reason for his being the only gym leader from a previous generation missing from BW2 is because the games take place well after GenII/IV, and Elite Four members<br />
aren't battle-able in the World Tournament?[[User:Ronin256|Ronin256]] ([[User talk:Ronin256|talk]]) 04:03, 22 July 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Lets Go Image ==<br />
In the most recent trailer for Lets Go Pikachu and Eevee (the one with the Elite Four), there are images of Koga, Sabrina, and Blaine for those games. Why are they not added yet? --[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 20:39, 11 November 2018 (UTC)</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Melmetal_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=2868561Talk:Melmetal (Pokémon)2018-10-24T16:41:22Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Something to add */</p>
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<div>==Image==<br />
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Should we use a temporary screenshot of Melmetal since we don't have its actual artwork? I think it wold be better than no image at all. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 15:02, 24 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Something to add ==<br />
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Add something in the trivia section: Melmetal and its {{p|Meltan|pre-evolution}} are the only [[Mythical Pokémon]] that are part of an evolutionary line. [[User:Wrrasba|Wrrasba]] ([[User talk:Wrrasba|talk]]) 15:25, 24 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Evolution Method? ==<br />
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It is mentioned in The Two Professors videos that when a group of {{p|Meltan|pre-evolution}} come together, they can form Melmetal. Can that be mentioned as an evolution method? --[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 16:41, 24 October 2018 (UTC)</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cyrus&diff=2709642Talk:Cyrus2017-11-02T19:17:26Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Using Deity/Deities derived terms when speaking generically */</p>
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<div>== Emotionlessness ==<br />
I'd heard somewhere that Cyrus was emotionless after he touched one of the lake legendaries (i cant remember which one takes emotion) in his early teens, but i didn't want to add it just in case i heard wrong. has anyone heard similar stories?<br />
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*[[User:Nick_Thelot|Nick_Thelot]]<br />
:That was never stated in the game, and according to those old people in Sunyshore, he was withdrawn since childhood anyway.--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 23:45, 5 September 2007 (UTC)<br />
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And if Cyrus is emotionless, why does he have a Crobat during the last time you battle him? A Golbat needs to be very happy with it's trainer before it can evolve.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 21:20, 10 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
:Just because Crobat likes him doesn't mean he likes Crobat. He could have just '''pretended''' to like Golbat so that it would evolve. [[User:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #221202">S</span><span style="color: #554535">h</span><span style="color: #887868">i</span><span style="color: #BBAB9B">n</span><span style="color: #EEDECE">y</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #775500">?</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #775500">!</span>]]</sup> 21:21, 10 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
::That, or he could have just pumped it full of drugs. That's how one of my friends does ALL her happiness evolutions as quickly as possible.--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 17:52, 11 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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::::You know, that actually sounds like something Cyrus would do. Give a Pokémon drugs.<br />
::::... I just hope his Crobat doesn't become a druggie. XD; [[User:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">T</span><span style="color:#FF69B4;">i</span><span style="color:#F6ADC6;">n</span><span style="color:#FFC0CB;">a</span>]]<sup>[[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|<span style="color:#FFC0CB;">☆</span>]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|<span style="color:#F6ADC6;">♥</span>]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#FF69B4;">♫</span>]]</sup> 18:20, 11 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
:::::I ''need'' that Carbos, ''man''! <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 23:33, 1 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
::::::Hmm...mebbe the Crobat ain't his. THen again...Cygnus doesn't have any badges...'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc><sup><span style=" color:navy">[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]</span></sup>Hi''' 13:18, 8 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::Well, he DOES operate from right in Veilstone...and he has big buildings and TV ads, so why shouldn't he have the money to buy lots of Carbos and Protein? [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] <sup>([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]])</sup> 17:46, 21 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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The rules for the player's Pokémon don't seem to apply to NPCs, whether it's for moves, evolution, or any of that stuff. There could be a Pokémon that would go on an unstoppable killing spree and destroy the world if it was owned by anything other than a magenta-haired teenage girl who lived at the bottom of the ocean; I guarantee that you'd find that thing, happier and more peaceful than you could possibly imagine, in the posession of a bald, middle-aged man living near the peak of Mt. Coronet. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 07:31, 18 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Pluto? ==<br />
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Could someone explain who Pluto is? I don't remember anyone called Pluto. --Pokelova 21:37, 12 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:Pluto is the new Team Galactic prof. in Platinum.[[User:Ultamatecharizard]]<br />
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== Move ==<br />
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I am not sure about this but should we move the Cyrus page and convert Cyrus to disambig, since there are two of them. [[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''Jm'''</span>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #000099">'''a'''</span>]][[User:Jmath/Sandbox|<span style="color: #000033">'''th'''</span>]] 06:16, 14 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
:The other Cyrus isn't nearly as important to create a disambig. Barely anyone knows about that Cyrus. I'd like to avoid disambiguation if possible. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 06:20, 14 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Sooo.... when shall we mention his bio in Pokemon Platinum? ==<br />
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^Topic<br />
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[[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:11, 14 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Splitting hairs... ==<br />
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...because really, Pluto is just a special classification of planet. It's a dwarf planet. So are Ceres, Eris, and Makemake. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:45, 17 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, I agree. But...um. What are we going to say the theme naming is? Professionally, we really ''shouldn't'' say planet..."heavenly bodies considered planets before the 2006 reclassification" is kind of unwieldy, but I guess it works.--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:55, 17 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Well it's not like they couldn't've named him Neptune or something. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:57, 20 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::how come??? --[[User:Guardian|<font color="#0000FF">Guardian</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian|<font color="#FFFF00"> of</font>]][[User talk:Guardian|<font color="#FF0000"> Earth</font>]] |[[GSDS|<font color="#00FF00">SGMS 2010</font>]]<br />
::::No, it's a double negative. He's saying they could have named him Neptune if they wanted to. [[User:Midnight Celtic|<span style="color:#9966CC;">Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic</span>]] 21:23, 26 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==How==<br />
do you know it used Heat Wave? Give me the video link. [[User:Happizelpom|<span style="color:#FF7070">Happi</span>]][[User talk:Happizelpom|<span style="color:#FF8000">zel</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|<span style="color:#660099">pom</span>]] 22:15, 20 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
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I just thinking that Honchkrow being a Dark/Flying type, How it can learn a Fire-type Attack (except Hidden Power)??? so I better remove that. I will still Continue Searching in Youtube and Find about the last move that it used--[[User:chungkingpun|<span style="color:#30D5C8">chungkingpunノ</span>]]15:22, 21 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:No, it's definitely Heat Wave, which Honchcrow isn't supposed to learn. That cheater. -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 02:54, 27 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
::Move tutor...--[[Roserade (Pokémon)|<sup style="color:#000000;">'''Psychic'''</sup>]][[User talk:PsychicRider|<sub style="color:#000000;">'''Rider'''</sub>]]''<small>''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|<sup style="color:#000000;">'''☮'''</sup>]]''</small> 03:03, 27 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
:The Japanese name for Heat Wave is ''Hot Wind'', meaning anything that can use heat or wind can (supposedly) use it. Not everything CAN, but apparently they have the potential to. Other Pokémon that can learn it are Pigeot, Staraptor, Chatot, Togekiss, Magmortar, Vulpix, and Charizard. Get it?--[[User:Chaos Theory|Chaos Theory]] 20:04, 17 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==complete and utter irony==<br />
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did anyone notice that this Cyrus is cuckoo evil and the other one is like really happy and mellow ,now who here thinks that is good trivia?[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamatecharizard]] 00:17, 12 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
:"The other one"?--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:05, 12 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
::I think he means the anime one. I think. --[[User:PsychicRider|<sup style="color:#000000;">'''Psychic'''</sup>]][[User talk:PsychicRider|<sub style="color:#000000;">'''Rider'''</sub>]]''<small>''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|<sup style="color:#000000;">'''☮'''</sup>]]''</small> 05:06, 12 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Anime Cyrus is just more calculating for plot reasons. He'll show his cuckoo evil side soon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:52, 12 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::you mean that happy dude with the Sunflora?<br />
::::ya he must be crazy ,by that logic Osama Bin Laden was a hippie--[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamatecharizard]] 16:03, 15 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::I still think it's good trivia [[user:Ultamatecharizard|why am I putting my name here it's right above?]]<br />
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== Trivia about the red chain ==<br />
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Were in the game did it ever say cyrus made the red chain by using the lake trios gems?<br />
I always thought he made it out of there energy or something.Darkmaster0 03:29, 21 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Remember when Team Galactic captured the Lake Trio and took them back to the HQ in Veilstone City. And then you had to verse Cyrus to rescue them.--[[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 03:41, 21 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Age? ==<br />
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In Platinum, after Cyrus's revolutionary speech, Looker comments. "Quite a performance, no? Mesmerizing for one only 27 years old.". I don't really get whether he was talking about Cyrus's age or his own age. To be honest, they both look older than that in my opinion. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 12:46, 20 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
::In that context, he's referring to Cyrus's age. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 01:00, 23 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Grandfather? ==<br />
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Yeah someone probably mentioned this somewhere. I just want to know if we could add that Cyrus has a grandfather under "Relatives". He's on [[Route 228]] in Platinum. Though he doesn't mention Cyrus by name, it's pretty obvious he's talking about him. I mean, we say Silver is Giovanni's son despite not it being specifically stated in the games, though confirmed in manga. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 07:32, 12 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== speech ==<br />
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I have no idea how to use a wiki, so forgive me if I'm doing this wrong.<br />
Anyway, I was wondering if someone could add his Cyrus' speech from Platinum? It'd be greatly appreciated. --[[User:PlanetWalker|PlanetWalker]] 10:55, 19 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
:What benefit would having his speech here offer? And where would it go? '''EDIT'''-I see we have quotes from him...but I think adding his speed is too much. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 11:01, 19 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
::Well, it would probably make the pre-battle quote understandable, as people would get confused with what the speech is. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 11:04, 19 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== DP150's Dialga & Palkia ==<br />
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Are these 2 the same Dialga & Palkia from the movies? I ask because when I hover over Dialga & Palkia, it redirects me to the Dialga(Anime) & Palkia(Anime). [[User:BAC510]], 00:12 10, October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:We don't know yet. They may be, and yet they may not be. If the Dialga and Palkia in this episode seem to actually recognize Ash, Dawn, or Brock, then they are the same. But if they don't recognize them, then they AREN'T the same ones as the ones in the DP trilogy. I'll try to remove the redirect. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 01:39, 10 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Heart Gold & Soul Silver ==<br />
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Cyrus also appeared in Heart Gold and Soul Silver as far as I saw. Why isn't its battle roster and/or info there? {{unsigned|MickBooterhood}}<br />
:Maybe you confused him with [[Giovanni#Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver|Giovanni]]?----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#BF0B17">DENNOU</font>]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#1250A6">ZENSHI</font>]] 10:20, 13 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::No, I'm more than sure, I've battle it some time behind and even GCPM11 posted it on YouTube. He appears in [[Ecruteak City]] in the front of the Gym and he talks to the player that the Team Galactic maybe will rise again in Johto, and when he loses he states that he losed [[Lucas (game)|again to]] [[Dawn (game)|another kid]]. He has an {{p|Honchkrow}}, {{p|Tyranitar}}, {{p|Houndoom}}, {{p|Mightyena}}, {{p|Gyarados}} and {{p|Weavile}}. {{unsigned|MickBooterhood}}<br />
:::Fake.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#BF0B17">DENNOU</font>]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#1250A6">ZENSHI</font>]] 10:39, 13 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOCq2IF4nQU&feature=feedu] Now you believe me? {{unsigned|MickBooterhood}}<br />
:::::Now I belive even more that it's fake...----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#BF0B17">DENNOU</font>]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#1250A6">ZENSHI</font>]] 11:12, 13 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::::It's fake. Moving along...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 11:22, 13 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== E Sound ==<br />
I think that that bit in the Trivia should be removed as it is outdated as of the release of Black and White, since N's name isn't pronounced with an e sound at the end, obviously. Ghetisis' name isn't pronounced with an "e" as well. [[User:Bolter1|Bolter1]] 02:58, 6 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Gyarados King's Rock ==<br />
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I was playing Pokemon Platinum today and have to doubt that Gyarados in the third battle is holding a Quick Claw but is in fact holding a King's Rock since it used Waterfall and Gardevoir flinched twice. Can anyone else check to verify it is a King's Rock and not a Quick Claw? ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 01:45, 19 August 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Using Deity/Deities derived terms when speaking generically ==<br />
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What is wrong with using deity/deities or derived terms when speaking generically (no gender connotations that is)?<br />
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== Membership in Team Rainbow Rocket ==<br />
Considering that at the end of the Distortion World part of Platinum, Cyrus stays, would his membership in Team Rainbow Rocket indicate that he actually escaped, or should we operate on the assumption that, due to USUM acting on a different timeline, Cyrus never ended up in the Distortion World?--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 19:17, 2 November 2017 (UTC)</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Region&diff=2572215Talk:Region2016-12-29T19:22:24Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Edit request */</p>
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<div>== Can someone do me a favor? ==<br />
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Can someone replace the Gen III art of Kanto with the Gen IV art. Thanks.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#003366">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#8C92AC">''Blue''</span>]]''' 02:33, 5 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:It's fine the way it is. The map of Kanto should be from the generation it debuted in or in the other words, its debut generation remake. [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 22:52, 13 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::The rest are updated, and on the region's page, we use the updated artwork.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#003366">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#8C92AC">''Blue''</span>]]''' 19:13, 22 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Trivia Section ==<br />
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Although Isshu still is made of four parts, there isn't a long o sound anymore. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 12:30, 13 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Mystery Dungeon ==<br />
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The article claims that there aren't any humans living in the region where the Mystery Dungeon games take place, but we know of at least one in the (averted) future: The player. It should at least be mentioned that humans are not unheard of in the MD region(s), (otherwise the characters would be wondering what the {{p|Rattata}} a 'human' is). --[[Gallade|<span style="color:#00A000;">'''エ'''</span>]][[User:Galladeon|<span style="color:#0000A0;">'''ルレ'''</span>]][[User talk:Galladeon|<span style="color:#B69E00;">'''イ'''</span><span style="color:#93abc3;">'''ド'''</span>]] 10:23, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Unlock ==<br />
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Can this be unlocked? There's no need for it to be locked until January. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 18:49, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== The long O sound ==<br />
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Would that still count in English, as it is now Unova? Or no?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#003366">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#8C92AC">''Blue''</span>]]''' 03:06, 24 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== "Regions in the Pokemon world" box section thing at bottom of page. ==<br />
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Orre is listed under "Main Series". Shouldn't it be under "sidegames"? I don't know how to edit that box, so zoom zoom ZOOM![[User:Tokeupdude|Tokeupdude]] 18:36, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Orre is considered a main series region due to the fact that Colosseum and XD are both RPG games and have almost exactly the same gameplay as Ruby/Sapphire etc., unlike Fiore, Mystery Dungeon world, etc. <small><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:blue; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span></small> 19:51, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Gameplay should not alone, determine whether a region is part of the main series or not. Orre does not have gym leaders, a league (yes, Johto lacks one, but it at least shares with Kanto's), connecting routes... I don't understand it. --[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 00:37, 6 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:If it is a "main series" game then why did my description get entirely deleted when I put the description for Orre in the main series section? The mod who undid my post said it was a side game, so I had to re-type that whole description in the side games section, thats why I ask. [[User:Tokeupdude|Tokeupdude]] 06:45, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Then you should've asked the person of a higher authority why he/she did that.. Don't be afraid to let them know, and be sure to be nice and calm. --[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 18:20, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Eh screw it lol. [[User:Tokeupdude|Tokeupdude]] 21:30, 8 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Region&diff=next&oldid=1322779] It was [[User:Han Ji-Wan|YOU]] who undid Tokeupdudes edit.[[User:Tempest370|Tempest370]] 08:24, 10 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::Oops. My bad. I wasn't really paying attention. xD --[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 01:34, 11 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Why Orre? ==<br />
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I don't think Orre should be listed under main series regions. Yes, Pokemon Colosseum and Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness are RPG's similar to the main series games, but it lacks everything else the main series has. Orre should be under side-series regions. Also, Pokemon Coloseum and Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness are side-series games. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 01:56, 10 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
:'''Orre''' is the setting of [[Pokémon Colosseum]] and [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]], which (after many long community discussions) are both classed as main series titles. '''Fiore''' is the setting of the side series title, {{ga|Pokémon Ranger}}. - [[User:Kogoro|<span style="color:#DA70D6;">'''<span class="sc">Kogoro</span>'''</span>]] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|<span style="color:#FFB6C1;">'''<span class="sc">Talk to me</span>'''</span>]] - 01:13, 10 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
My mistake. I meant to say Pokémon Colosseum and Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness. I fixed it. Anyway, than how come in the regions template, Orre is under side-series regions? Also, they are side-series games, not main-series. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 01:56, 10 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Decolora ==<br />
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Will Decolora count as a new region ala Orange Islands? The first episode of Season Two Da! implies that the islands are not part of Unova, so will Decolora be counted as a new region? [[User:Iml908|Iml908]] ([[User talk:Iml908|talk]]) 17:26, 7 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Trivia section ==<br />
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There are some things to the trivia section that need checking:<br />
* ''The names of the five regions visited in the main series games are all composed of four kana: カントー (Kanto), ジョウト (Johto), ホウエン (Hoenn), シンオウ (Sinnoh), and イッシュ (Unova).''; Karosu has only got three of them.<br />
* The last bit of trivia is oddly structured, is it supposed to say "it's"? It could be changed into ''Each region has the letter 'o' present in their English names (Kant'''o''', Joht'''o''', H'''o'''enn, Sinn'''o'''h and Un'''o'''va).'' {{unsigned|Ariano}}<br />
::No, it's is short for it is, so its is correct. Of course, that last trivia entry needs updating. The fact is still true, so just add Kalos to it: "Each region has the letter 'o' in each of its English names (Kant'''o''', J'''o'''ht'''o''', H'''o'''enn, Sinn'''o'''h, Un'''o'''va and Kal'''o'''s)." The sentence structure is odd though I'll admit, maybe change it to "Every region has the letter 'o' in its English name (Kant'''o''', J'''o'''ht'''o''', H'''o'''enn, Sinn'''o'''h, Un'''o'''va and Kal'''o'''s)." [[User:Digifiend|Digifiend]] ([[User talk:Digifiend|talk]]) 01:02, 28 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== New region ==<br />
The new region is called Karosu. Can someone photoshop the region out of the magazine, heighten its quality, and put it here? You know what, I just reread that, and it sounds complicated. We should still at least add the cropped CoroCoro picture. {{unsigned|Poko907}}<br />
: Real life isn't CSI, you can't heighten the quality with a click of a mouse (at least not to the degree we want). I'd say we'll just wait for when better scans are released which should be in shortly --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 00:35, 13 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:: Better scans have been released. On a completely different note, do we have any great artists on board? [[User:Poko907|Poko907]] ([[User talk:Poko907|talk]]) 21:13, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Kalos Art ==<br />
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Shouldn't the pic of the Kalos region be added to the Art section? We have high quality pictures now. [[User:Torpoleon|Torpoleon]] ([[User talk:Torpoleon|talk]]) 20:16, 15 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Four Games in the Case of Unova ==<br />
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In the main paragraph it states each region has at least 3 games when it debuts then goes on to say in parenthesis except Unova which has 4. This is pointless imo and inconsistent, the statement says at least have 3 not all have 3, its inconsistent because Gen 1 had 4 games as well with Red, Green, Blue and Yellow unless were only counting worldwide releases. So either the parenthesized statement should be removed or also include Kanto. [[User:Bith|Bith]] ([[User talk:Bith|talk]]) 05:04, 8 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Edit request ==<br />
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Just want to point something out. The Decolore Archipelago is still referred to by its original name. Could a staff member kindly change it? Thanks! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 19:59, 27 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Even though one "Decolora Archipelago" has been changed into "Decolore Archipelago", there's still a "Decolora Archipelago" below the image of the region. That needs to be changed too. Thanks! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 20:23, 27 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Not quite sure how I missed that second one, but fixed. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 20:31, 27 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::The image link has Decolora as the file name instead of Decolore. I did an image move not too long ago. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 20:44, 27 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::And fixed. That's hopefully the last that needs to be fixed. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 20:52, 27 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::Yep, I checked and that's everything. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 21:28, 27 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
The dub name is '''Decolore Islands''', not Archipelago, so all its mentions must be fixed (again). Why didn't we do this correctly the first time? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:05, 3 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Done. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 19:25, 3 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Unova & Alola Being Close to Kanto? ==<br />
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Since The Decolore Islands are between Unova and Kanto, wouldn't it mean that Unova is close to Kanto? Also, in the Sun and Moon Games, they make multiple references to Kanto and in some references Johto. Wouldn't that mean that Alola would be close, esp since Kukui mentions going to Kanto to fight their Elite 4 and the player character comes from Kanto? Sorry if I am wrong. --[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 19:22, 29 December 2016 (UTC)</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battle_judge&diff=2274369Talk:Battle judge2015-04-23T05:54:46Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Judge or referee */</p>
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<div>==Judge or referee==<br />
I think they're usually addressed as referees... Aren't they? --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''<span style="color:#ED9121">electAbuzz</span>''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''<span style="color:#ED9121">z</span>''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''<span style="color:#ED9121">z</span>''']] 10:32, 3 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Always have been when I've seen them. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 10:54, 3 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I remember in one episode Brock says, "I'll be the Referee!" [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 10:55, 3 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Officially, they're called battle judges. Referee is the informal name (why is this so shocking?). I didn't put the term out of thin air. If they were officially referred to as referees, ''Judgment Day!'' wouldn't have been calling them battle judges while, you know, they were training to become a judge. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 13:03, 3 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
==Add Clemont and Clembot to this page==<br />
Clemont and Clembot need to be added, especially considering Clembot refereed Ash's battle with Clemont. I can add, but I am not sure how to phrase it, so I will let an experienced editor add the information.--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 05:54, 23 April 2015 (UTC)</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Kalos_Route_14&diff=2267197Talk:Kalos Route 142015-04-05T20:01:19Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Puddles */</p>
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<div>== Poliwhirl ==<br />
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Using the Good Rod, I've only encountered lv 35 Poliwhirl (which at first I thought was a rare event but seven or so down the line, that's all there was). Has anyone ever seen a lv 25 Poliwhirl with the Good Rod? They're still lv 35 using the Super Rod (and so is Whiscash), Poliwag are still lv 15 with the Old Rod, and Barboach are lv 25 with the Good Rod. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 13:41, 23 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I just caught a lv. 35 Poliwhirl with a Good Rod, too. [[User:Porygon-man|Porygon-man]] ([[User talk:Porygon-man|talk]]) 03:46, 21 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==Puddles==<br />
While I was editing the [[marsh tile]] page, I noticed that in the tables on this page (and [[Kalos Route 19]] for that matter), wild Pokemon are said to be encountered in "puddles." However, I think this area would be best described as more of a marshy area since the player can get stuck, which better fits with the description on the marsh tile page rather than the one on the [[puddle]] page. According to the puddle page, actually, they don't even appear in Gen VI, so either the marsh tile and puddle articles need to be edited to reflect these pages, or this page and the Route 19 page need to be changed. (I don't know if the template itself would have to be changed for that to allow an option for marshy areas or what because I'm not the best when it comes to templates.) [[User:Slimey01|<span style="color:#111111">'''slimey'''</span>]][[User talk:Slimey01|<span style="color:#AAAAAA">'''01'''</span>]] 17:16, 28 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:It's a bit of a variation on what came before, but I'd say it is indeed, practically speaking, marsh (tiles). ({{wp|Marsh}} and {{wp|swamp}} are apparently mostly differentiated by having just grass and stuff vs having trees. So the ground itself is basically the same.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:53, 30 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks for fixing that :) Could you also take a look and fix [[Kalos Route 19]] too? I tried doing it myself by just copying what you'd done here but it didn't work for me. [[User:Slimey01|<span style="color:#111111">'''slimey'''</span>]][[User talk:Slimey01|<span style="color:#AAAAAA">'''01'''</span>]] 14:43, 30 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
==In the Anime==<br />
Can we start to post what episodes Kalos Route 14 is going to show up in the anime? After all, Episode 69 seems that it will begin the movement up the Route and that there is an episode involving the scary house, basically confirming the Route movement. I was thinking about adding it, but didn't want to overstep. Can we do so?--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 20:01, 5 April 2015 (UTC)</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:XY064&diff=2259534Talk:XY0642015-03-12T19:07:13Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Please update? */</p>
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<div>==Serena's Fennekin==<br />
How do we know that Fennekin will evolve here? Where exactly is the proof that it will? [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 02:13, 10 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
:We know a Braixen is in the episode, and in the past, episodes where a pokemon we know is going to evolve soon has a focus episode (especially going up against its evolved form) tends to end in its evolution. [[User:Myzou|Myzou]] ([[User talk:Myzou|talk]]) 14:42, 14 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
::It tends to, yes, but not always. Plus, how do we know that there's a Braixen in this episode? [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 00:43, 15 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::Pre-release images, as with anytime we know which pokemon are in episodes. We've also known Serena's Fennekin will evolve for months, so logic dictates an episode where Fennekin is the focus, goes up against it's fully evolved form, and it's middle form is in the episode kinda all adds up to evolution episode. [[User:Myzou|Myzou]] ([[User talk:Myzou|talk]]) 09:11, 19 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::Where are the pre-realeased images? Also, that isn't enough to say that it will evolve. Although, the latest opening does kind of imply that Fennekin will evolve here. Still, where are these images? [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 01:37, 20 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== How do we know? ==<br />
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How do we know if a Braixen is appearing here or have I missed something?Pichu911 10:28, 11 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Please update? ==<br />
Please update episode screenshot to the latest one from the TV Tokyo site which shows Serena training with Fenniken and Pancham. {{unsigned|Pichu911}}<br />
:Admins always update the screenshots eventually. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 20:35, 27 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
== Episode Events with Clemont ==<br />
Considering that Clemont battled Shota in the episode, can we put it as a major event? I was going to myself, but I didn't want to put something and have someone remove it later. --[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 19:07, 12 March 2015 (UTC)</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Lumiose_Gym&diff=2258858Lumiose Gym2015-03-10T15:54:38Z<p>Pokemon26: /* In the anime */</p>
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<div>{{GymInfobox<br />
|name=Lumiose<br />
|characters=ミアレ<br />
|japanese=Miare<br />
|image=Lumiose Gym anime.png<br />
|location=Lumiose City<br />
|leader=[[Clemont]]<br/>[[Clembot]] ({{pkmn|anime}} only)<br />
|badge=Voltage Badge<br />
|type=Electric<br />
|region=Kalos<br />
|battlefield=Lumiose Gym Battlefield.png<br />
}}<br />
The '''Lumiose Gym''' (Japanese: '''ミアレジム''' ''Miare Gym''), also known as the '''Prism Tower''' (Japanese: '''プリズムタワー''' ''Prism Tower''), is the official [[Gym]] of [[Lumiose City]]. It is based on {{type|Electric}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}. The [[Gym Leader]] is [[Clemont]]. {{pkmn|Trainer}}s who manage to defeat him receive the {{Badge|Voltage}}. The exterior of the Gym is based on the {{wp|Eiffel Tower}}.<br />
<br />
==In the games==<br />
[[File:Photo Spot Lumiose City.png|thumb|left|[[Photography|Photo]] of the Prism Tower]]<br />
The Lumiose Gym is a high-tech tower known as the Prism Tower. It is initially inaccessible when the player first reaches Lumiose City as it and much of the rest of the city have lost power due to a blackout. After the player has defeated Team Flare in the Kalos Power Plant, power will be fully restored to the city and the player will be able to challenge Prism Tower.<br />
<br />
The Gym features groups of elevators guarded by the Gym's Trainers on several floors. On each floor before the sixth (where [[Clemont]] is), [[Bonnie]] will quiz the player about a [[Who's That Pokémon?|Pokémon's silhouette]] as a multiple choice question, and the player must choose the elevator corresponding to the correct answer. The player must battle the Trainer guarding the elevator they have chosen before they can enter the elevator and know whether they have chosen correctly. If the player has chosen correctly, the elevator will ascend to the next floor, but if they have chosen wrongly, they will have to try another elevator.<br />
<br />
The correct answers for each floor are:<br />
* 2F = {{p|Pikachu}} (#3)<br />
* 3F = {{p|Fletchling}} (#1)<br />
* 4F = {{p|Panpour}} (#3)<br />
* 5F = {{p|Vivillon}} (#2)<br />
<br />
Any Trainers the player did not battle before moving to the next floor will not be battleable if the player returns to that floor. Any elevator the player used to ascend to a floor can be used to either return to the previous floor or directly to the first floor.<br />
<br />
===Appearance===<br />
{{incomplete|section|Needs complete layout maps}}<br />
{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; background: #000; border: 3px solid #{{electric color dark}}"<br />
|-<br />
! style="background:#{{X color}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Pokémon X and Y|X}}<br />
! style="background:#{{Y color}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Pokémon X and Y|Y}}<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="2" | [[File:Lumiose Gym XY.png|250px]]<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{electric color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | &nbsp; <br />
|}<br />
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===Trainers===<br />
Trainers are listed in order of the elevator they are guarding, from left to right.<br />
<br />
====2F====<br />
{{Trainerheader|Electric}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|VSSchoolboy.png{{!}}150px|Schoolboy|Arno|1,088|1|417|Pachirisu|♂|34|36=アルノー|37=Arno}}<br />
{{Trainerdiv|Electric}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|VSSchoolboy.png{{!}}150px|Schoolboy|Sherlock|1,088|1|618|Stunfisk|♂|34|36=ヒロム|37=Hiromu}}<br />
{{Trainerdiv|Electric}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|VSSchoolboy.png{{!}}150px|Schoolboy|Finnian|1,088|1|702|Dedenne|♂|34|36=コウタ|37=Kōta}}<br />
{{Trainerfooter|Electric|6}}<br />
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====3F====<br />
{{Trainerheader|Electric}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|VSRising Star F.png{{!}}150px|Rising Star|Estel|2,100|1|026|Raichu|♀|35|36=マル|37=Maru}}<br />
{{Trainerdiv|Electric}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|VSRising Star F.png{{!}}150px|Rising Star|Nelly|2,100|1|082|Magneton||35|36=ノリコ|37=Noriko}}<br />
{{Trainerdiv|Electric}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|VSRising Star F.png{{!}}150px|Rising Star|Helene|2,100|1|310|Manectric|♀|35|36=ミキコ|37=Mikiko}}<br />
{{Trainerfooter|Electric|6}}<br />
<br />
====4F====<br />
{{Trainerheader|Electric}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|VSAce Trainer M.png{{!}}150px|Ace Trainer|Mathis|3,600|1|171|Lanturn|♂|36|36=トキヤ|37=Tokiya}}<br />
{{Trainerdiv|Electric}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|VSAce Trainer M.png{{!}}150px|Ace Trainer|Maxim|3,600|1|101|Electrode||36|36=ジェスタン|37=Justin}}<br />
{{Trainerdiv|Electric}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|VSAce Trainer M.png{{!}}150px|Ace Trainer|Rico|3,600|1|181|Ampharos|♂|36|36=ユウタ|37=Yūta}}<br />
{{Trainerfooter|Electric|6}}<br />
<br />
====5F====<br />
{{Trainerheader|Electric}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|VSPoké Fan F.png{{!}}150px|Poké Fan|Abigail|2,720|1|312|Minun|♀|34|36=テイコ|37=Teiko}}<br />
{{Trainerdiv|Electric}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|VSPoké Fan F.png{{!}}150px|Poké Fan|Lydie|2,720|1|311|Plusle|♀|34|36=ナツミ|37=Natsumi}}<br />
{{Trainerdiv|Electric}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|VSPoké Fan F.png{{!}}150px|Poké Fan|Tara|2,720|1|025|Pikachu|♀|34|36=ルネ|37=Rune}}<br />
{{Trainerfooter|Electric|6}}<br />
<br />
====6F====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{electric color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{electric color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{electric color light}}<br />
|sprite=VSClemont.png<br />
|size=150px<br />
|prize={{pdollar}}5,920<br />
|class=Leader<br />
|classlink=Gym Leader<br />
|name={{color2|000|Clemont}}<br />
|game=XY<br />
|location=Lumiose Gym<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/6<br />
|ndex=587<br />
|pokemon=Emolga<br />
|level=35<br />
|gender=male<br />
|type1=Electric|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Volt Switch|move1type=Electric|move1cat=Special<br />
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical<br />
|move3=Aerial Ace|move3type=Flying|move3cat=Physical}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/6<br />
|ndex=082<br />
|pokemon=Magneton<br />
|level=35<br />
|type1=Electric|type2=Steel<br />
|ability=Sturdy<br />
|move1=Thunderbolt|move1type=Electric|move1cat=Special<br />
|move2=Electric Terrain|move2type=Electric|move2cat=Status<br />
|move3=Mirror Shot|move3type=Steel|move3cat=Special}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/6<br />
|ndex=695<br />
|pokemon=Heliolisk<br />
|level=37<br />
|gender=male<br />
|type1=Electric|type2=Normal<br />
|ability=Dry Skin<br />
|move1=Thunderbolt|move1type=Electric|move1cat=Special<br />
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical<br />
|move3=Grass Knot|move3type=Grass|move3cat=Special}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
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===Items===<br />
{{Itlisth|electric}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Looker Ticket|1F, west of the Gym guide (post-game)|X=yes|y=yes|display={{key|VI|Looker Ticket}}}}<br />
{{Itemlist|None|sprite=Best Friends Ribbon|1F, from Bonnie if the player's Pokémon has maximum [[Pokémon-Amie|Affection]]|X=yes|y=yes|display={{DL|List of Ribbons in the games|Best Friends Ribbon}}}}<br />
{{Itemlist|TM Electric VI|6F, reward for defeating Clemont|X=yes|y=yes|display={{TM|24|Thunderbolt}}}}<br />
{{Itlistfoot|electric}}<br />
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==In the spin-off-games==<br />
===In Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS===<br />
{{main|Prism Tower (stage)}}<br />
<br />
'''{{St|Prism Tower}}''' appears as a playable stage in [[Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS/Wii U|Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS]], serving as a hallmark for Lumiose City. Matches begin on the ground level of the tower in front of the building, and players must climb the tower by securing footholds (such as moving platforms). As the stage ascends, the background scenery changes to a different [[time]] of day.<br />
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==In the anime==<br />
In {{an|Clemont}} and {{an|Bonnie}}'s backstory in the anime, Clemont had created a robot called [[Clembot]] to cover for him when he found he had little free time due to his duties as a Gym Leader. However, his intended passcode wasn't recognised, so Clembot kicked him and Bonnie out of the Gym. After many failed attempts to reenter the Gym, they gave up. Over the next few weeks, it gained a bad reputation for shocking and violently ejecting challengers for either having less than four badges or losing the Gym Battle.<br />
<br />
Unaware of the Gym's reputation as he was a newcomer, {{Ash}} went to the Lumiose Gym first in ''[[XY001|Kalos, Where Dreams and Adventures Begin!]]'' since the [[Santalune Gym]] was closed at the time. As Ash was about to challenge it, he was denied access as he had no other Badges from the Kalos region, resulting in him and {{AP|Pikachu}} falling victim to Clembot's ejection policy. Fortunately, the two were saved by Clemont and Bonnie, who had seen them enter the Gym.<br />
<br />
The Gym's exterior was featured heavily in ''[[XY002|Lumiose City Pursuit!]]'', as a rampaging Garchomp climbed it. Ash went up after her to calm her down, but she still caused a fair bit of damage to the tower, to the point where parts were too weak to support even Pikachu's weight.<br />
<br />
It later appeared in full in ''[[XY009|Clemont's Got a Secret!]]''. Ash and {{an|Serena}} discovered that Clemont was the Gym Leader until Clembot took over. After discovering the negative impact Clembot was having on challenger attitudes towards the Gym, Ash and {{ashfr}} go to the Gym to take it back from Clembot. In the end, the Gym was passed on to the newly-reprogrammed Clembot while Clemont is traveling.<br />
It reappeared in [[XY063]], when Clemont began his training for his battle with Ash, bringing his Pokemon from the Gym to his active party. The Gym will be the site of the gym battle in [[XY067]].<br />
<br />
==Trivia==<br />
* This Gym is tied with the [[Mossdeep Gym]] in {{v|Emerald}} for the highest amount of common Trainers in a Gym, with both having 12. However, in this Gym, the player only needs to defeat four of them in order to get to the Gym Leader.<br />
* The multi-colored bricks in the background of the battlefield change color in rhythm to the theme.<br />
* A mini replica of the Prism Tower called Square Tower, is in the central courtyard of [[Mauville City]] in {{pkmn|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}.<br />
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{{Gym Leaders of Kalos}}<br/><br />
{{Project Locations notice}}<br />
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[[Category:Kalos locations]]<br />
[[Category:X and Y locations]]<br />
[[Category:Gyms]]<br />
[[Category:Kalos Gyms]]<br />
[[Category:Towers]]<br />
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[[fr:Arène d'Illumis]]<br />
[[it:Palestra di Luminopoli]]<br />
[[ja:ミアレジム]]<br />
[[zh:密阿雷道館]]</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Clembot&diff=2256577Clembot2015-03-03T17:34:47Z<p>Pokemon26: /* History */</p>
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<div>[[File:Clembot.png|thumb|300px|Clembot]]<br />
The '''Clembot''' (Japanese: '''シトロイド''' ''Citroid'') is the current Gym Leader of the [[Lumiose Gym]] in the anime, having been built by {{an|Clemont}} to fill in for him when he was busy. Its voice was first heard in ''[[XY001|Kalos, Where Dreams and Adventures Begin!]]'' and it made a full appearance in ''[[XY009|Clemont's Got a Secret!]]''. It hands out the {{badge|Voltage}} to challengers who defeat it.<br />
<br />
==History==<br />
Prior to the start of the ''[[XY series]]'', Clemont built the Clembot when he found that being a Gym Leader meant he had little time to spend with his beloved inventions and decided to create a replacement who could meet challengers when he was busy. He programmed it to be what he believed was the ideal Gym Leader, believing that his perfect opponent would be someone who had earned four Kalos Gym Badges and that the leader should be someone who is strict in order to allow people to learn.<br />
<br />
Clemont intended to enter a vocal passcode to allow him to take control of the Clembot if the need arose, but he mistimed the entry of the passcode. Clemont intended to give it the passcode "sandwich." However, when the Clembot's eyes lit up, indicating it was ready to accept the passcode, Bonnie ran in to inform Clemont of a challenger. As Clemont left, he accidentally tripped over a cord trying to leave the room, causing the Clembot to fall and gain a dent in its forehead. He picked the Clembot back up and said "You can start today. I'm Clemont, the Gym Leader," which the Clembot accepted as the passcode input.<br />
<br />
On the battlefield, Clemont activated the Clembot to show it off to his younger sister {{an|Bonnie}}. However, the Clembot immediately asked Clemont how many Badges he had. As Clemont did not have any and he could not provide the correct passcode, the Clembot chased Clemont and Bonnie out of the Gym and sealed the door, exiling them and cutting Clemont off from his Pokémon, which the Clembot then took possession of. Many attempts to reenter failed, and the two were forced to give up and abandon the Gym. As a result, the Clembot was left in charge and soon gained a very bad reputation as a strict and violent Gym Leader who would electrocute and throw out challengers who either did not meet the four Kalos Gym Badge requirement or lost their Gym match. In ''[[XY001|Kalos, Where Dreams and Adventures Begin!]]'', {{Ash}} and {{AP|Pikachu}} fell victim to this when Ash attempted to challenge the Gym. Since Ash had no Kalos Gym Badges, with this being his first attempt to earn a [[Kalos]] Gym Badge, they were kicked out, but Clemont and Bonnie came to their rescue.<br />
<br />
[[File:Clembot reprogramming.png|thumb|250px|The Clembot being reprogrammed]]<br />
Several weeks later, in ''[[XY009|Clemont's Got a Secret!]]'', after [[Meyer|their father]] exposed Clemont's status as Gym Leader, Clemont and Bonnie finally told Ash and {{an|Serena}} the truth, and they encouraged him to find out what went wrong and reclaim the Gym. Entering through the back door, they found that the Clembot had ordered Clemont's {{p|Magnemite}} and {{p|Magneton}} to patrol the halls to throw out intruders; Ash was able to incapacitate these Pokémon with his {{AP|Froakie}}. When they reached the battlefield, Clemont confronted the Clembot, then had a flashback and realized that the Clembot had accepted his introduction as the passcode; Clemont used this as the passcode, which then allowed him to engage the Clembot in battle.<br />
<br />
Clemont used his {{TP|Clemont|Bunnelby}} against the Clembot's choice of {{p|Heliolisk}}. After a hard-fought battle, Clemont's use of creative tactics caused the Clembot to seize up and as a result Heliolisk was knocked out. The Clembot then submitted itself to be reprogrammed, and Clemont removed the Badge restriction and the Clembot's stern nature, ensuring that it would be kind to challengers and give advice to ones that lost. When Clemont and Bonnie resumed their travels, the Clembot remained as the leader of Lumiose Gym and also agreed to help out in Meyer's shop.<br />
<br />
Clembot will reappear in [[XY063]] and later in [[XY066]] and [[XY067]].<br />
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==Pokémon==<br />
===Loaned from Clemont===<br />
{{TrainerPoké<br />
|trainer=Clemont<br />
|pkmn=Magnemite<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|type2=Steel<br />
|img=Clemont Magnemite.png<br />
|epnum=XY009<br />
|epname=Clemont's Got a Secret!<br />
|desc={{p|Magnemite}} was left in the Clembot's possession when Clemont was exiled from the Gym and was ordered to patrol to the Gym and keep out intruders. After Clemont greeted it upon his return, it was initially happy but then remembered its orders and attacked him with Thunder Shock. It continued attacking until {{AP|Froakie}}'s Frubbles put a stop to it.<br />
<br />
Magnemite's only known move is {{m|Thunder Shock}}.}}<br />
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{{TrainerPoké<br />
|trainer=Clemont<br />
|pkmn=Magneton<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|type2=Steel<br />
|img=Clemont Magneton.png<br />
|epnum=XY009<br />
|epname=Clemont's Got a Secret!<br />
|desc={{p|Magneton}} is another of Clemont's Pokémon who served as a patrol to the Gym while Clembot was in control of it. After attacking the group with Metal Sound, {{an|Serena}} sent out her {{TP|Serena|Fennekin}} to battle it. It easily dodged Fennekin's {{m|Ember}} by temporarily separating itself into three units but was stopped by {{AP|Froakie}}'s Frubbles.<br />
<br />
Magneton's known moves are {{m|Metal Sound}} and {{m|Thunder Shock}}.}}<br />
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{{TrainerPoké<br />
|trainer=Clemont<br />
|pkmn=Heliolisk<br />
|stage1=Helioptile<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|type2=Normal<br />
|img=Clemont Heliolisk.png<br />
|epnum=XY009<br />
|epname=Clemont's Got a Secret!<br />
|vajp=Kiyotaka Furushima<br />
|desc=When Clemont was exiled from the Gym, his {{p|Heliolisk}} was left with the Clembot who continued training it and even taught it to use Bulldoze to counter Pokémon using {{m|Dig}}. When Clemont returned and challenged Clembot for ownership of the gym, Clembot used it to battle. Heliolisk was overjoyed to see him, but Clemont told it to do its best and give all that it's got. During the battle, it proved to be a powerful battler; however it lost to {{TP|Clemont|Bunnelby}} after they used a tactical attack and managed to land a super-effective Dig.<br />
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Heliolisk's known moves are {{m|Thunderbolt}}, {{m|Dragon Tail}}, {{m|Bulldoze}}, and {{m|Parabolic Charge}}.}}<br />
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==Voice actors==<br />
{{vatable|color={{electric color}}|bordercolor={{electric color dark}}<br />
|ja=佐藤健輔 ''[[Kensuke Satō]]''<br />
|en=[[Michael Liscio Jr.]]<br />
|pl=Maciej Falana<br />
|fi=Henri Piispanen<br />
|de=Tobias Kern<br />
|it=Simone Lupinacci<br />
|es_eu=Fernando Cordero ([[XY001]])<br>Miguel Antelo ([[XY009]])<br />
|es_la=Andrés García}}<br />
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==Names==<br />
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{electric color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{electric color}}"<br />
|- <br />
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Language<br />
! Name<br />
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Origin<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| Japanese<br />
| シトロイド ''Citroid''<br />
| From ''Citron'' and ''{{wp|Android (robot)|android}}''<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| English<br />
| Clembot<br />
| From ''Clemont'' and ''{{wp|robot}}''<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| French<br />
| Lemrobot<br />
| From ''Lem'' and ''robot''<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| German<br />
| Citrobot<br />
| From ''Citro'' and ''robot''<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| Italian, Spanish<br />
| Lembot<br />
| From ''Lem'' and ''robot''<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| Korean<br />
| 시트로이드 ''Citroid''<br />
| From ''Citron'' and ''android''<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan}})<br />
| 希特洛伊特 ''Xītèluòyītè ''<br />
| Transliteration of its Japanese name<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| Chinese ({{tt|Cantonese|Hong Kong}})<br />
| 希特洛伊特 ''Hēidahklokyīdahk''<br />
| Mandarin-based transliteration of its Japanese name<br />
|}<br />
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[[zh:希特洛伊特 ]]</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Mr._Briney&diff=2255376Mr. Briney2015-02-28T16:42:55Z<p>Pokemon26: /* In the anime */</p>
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<div>{{CharInfobox|<br />
color={{water color}} |<br />
corecolor={{water color light}} |<br />
bordercolor={{water color dark}} |<br />
name=Mr. Briney |<br />
jname=ハギ老人 |<br />
tmname=Old Man Hagi |<br />
slogan=no |<br />
image=Mr Briney Sugimori.png |<br />
size=250px |<br />
caption=Art by [[Ken Sugimori]] for the {{Trading Card Game}} |<br />
gender=Male |<br />
age=yes |<br />
years=72 |<br />
hometown=Unknown |<br />
region=[[Hoenn]] |<br />
trainer=no |<br />
game=yes |<br />
generation={{gen|III}}, {{gen|VI}} |<br />
games=[[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby, Sapphire]], [[Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald]], [[Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire|Omega Ruby, and Alpha Sapphire]] |<br />
leader=no |<br />
anime=yes |<br />
manga=yes |<br />
epnum=AG018 |<br />
epname=On a Wingull and a Prayer! |<br />
enva=[[Carter Cathcart|Jimmy Zoppi]] |<br />
java=Yōsuke Akimoto |<br />
}}<br />
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'''Mr. Briney''' (Japanese: '''ハギ{{tt|老人|ろうじん}}''' ''Old Man Hagi'') is a sailor that appears in many forms of the media. He has a {{p|Wingull}} named [[Peeko]].<br />
<br />
==In the games==<br />
Mr. Briney is first seen near the [[Rusturf Tunnel]], asking the {{player}} to recover his {{p|Wingull}}, [[Peeko]], from a {{tc|Team Magma Grunt}}{{sup/3|R}}{{sup/6|OR}}/{{tc|Team Aqua Grunt}}{{sup/3|S}}{{sup/3|E}}{{sup/6|AS}}. Once Peeko is rescued and returned to Mr. Briney, he will offer to give the player rides in his boat to [[Dewford Town]] and [[Slateport City]] until {{ga|Brendan|he}}/{{ga|May|she}} gains the {{badge|Balance}} from [[Norman|his/her father]], after which he promptly disappears from all three areas.<br />
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During the post-game, it is revealed that he has become the captain of the [[S.S. Tidal]].<br />
<br />
His house is located on {{rt|104|Hoenn}}.<br />
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===Quotes===<br />
====Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald====<br />
'''{{rt|116|Hoenn}}'''<br />
: ''"Ohhh, what am I to do? We were on our walk, <sc>[[Peeko]]</sc> and I, when we were jumped by an odd thug... The scoundrel made off with my darling <sc>Peeko</sc>! Wrrrooooooaaaar! <sc>Peeko</sc>!"''<br />
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'''[[Rusturf Tunnel]]'''<br />
: ''"<sc>Peeko</sc>! Am I glad to see you're safe! <sc>Peeko</sc> owes her life to you! They call me <sc>Mr. Briney</sc>. And, you are? Ah, so you are <player>! I sincerely thank you! Now, if there's anything that troubles you, don't hesitate to tell me! You can usually find me in my cottage by the sea near <sc>[[Petalburg Woods]]</sc>. Come, <sc>Peeko</sc>, we should make our way home."''<br />
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'''Mr. Briney's cottage'''<br />
: ''"Hold on, lass! Wait up, <sc>Peeko</sc>! Hm? You're <player>! You saved my darling <sc>Peeko</sc>! We owe so much to you! What's that? You want to sail with me? Hmhm... You have a <sc>{{key|III|Letter}}</sc> bound for <sc>{{to|Dewford}}</sc> and a package for <sc>{{ci|Slateport}}</sc>, then? Quite the busy life you must lead! But, certainly, what you're asking is no problem at all. You've come to the right man! We'll set sail for <sc>Dewford</sc>."''<br />
:: '''Yes''': ''"<sc>Dewford</sc> it is, then! Anchors aweigh! <sc>Peeko</sc>, we're setting sail, my darling!"''<br />
:: '''No''': ''"Is that so? Your deliveries can wait? You just go on and tell me whenever you want to set sail!"''<br />
* Before delivering the {{key|III|Letter}}<br />
: ''"Ahoy! I know exactly what you want to say! You're to deliver a <sc>Letter</sc> to <sc>Dewford</sc> and a package to <sc>Slateport</sc>. What you need me to do is no problem at all--I'm the man for the job! First we'll set sail for <sc>Dewford</sc>."''<br />
* After delivering the {{key|III|Letter}}<br />
: ''"Ahoy! I know exactly what you want to say! You're to deliver a package to <sc>Capt. Stern</sc> in <sc>Slateport</sc>. What you need me to do is no problem at all--I'm the man for the job! First we'll set sail for <sc>Dewford</sc>."''<br />
* After delivering the {{key|III|Devon Goods}}<br />
: ''"Ahoy! For you, I'll go out to sea anytime! Now, my friend, where are we bound?"''<br />
:: '''Dewford''': ''"<sc>Dewford</sc> it is, then! Anchors aweigh! <sc>Peeko</sc>, we're setting sail, my darling!"''<br />
:: '''Exit''': ''"Is that so? Well, <sc>Peeko</sc> owes her life to you. You just go on and tell me whenever you want to set sail!"''<br />
<br />
'''[[Dewford Town]]'''<br />
* After arriving in Dewford Town<br />
: ''"Ahoy! We've hit land in <sc>Dewford</sc>. I suppose you're off to deliver that <sc>Letter</sc> to, who was it now, <sc>{{Steven}}</sc>!"''<br />
<br />
* Before delivering the {{key|III|Letter}}<br />
: ''"Have you delivered your <sc>Letter</sc>? Or were you meaning to sail back to <sc>{{ci|Petalburg}}</sc>?"''<br />
:: '''Yes''': ''"<sc>Petalburg</sc> it is, then! Anchors aweigh! <sc>Peeko</sc>, we're setting sail, my darling!"''<br />
:: '''No''': ''"Then you go on and deliver the <sc>Letter</sc>. I'll be waiting."''<br />
<br />
* After delivering the Letter<br />
: ''"Ahoy! For you, I'll go out to sea anytime! Now, my friend, where are we bound?"''<br />
:: '''Petalburg''': ''"<sc>Petalburg</sc>, is it? Anchors aweigh! <sc>Peeko</sc>, we're setting sail, my darling!"''<br />
:: '''Slateport''': ''"<sc>Slateport</sc>, is it? Anchors aweigh! <sc>Peeko</sc>, we're setting sail, my darling!"''<br />
:: '''Exit''': ''"You just tell me whenever you need to set sail again!"''<br />
<br />
* Arriving after delivering the Letter<br />
: ''"Ahoy! We've hit land in <sc>Dewford</sc>! You just go on and tell me whenever you want to set sail again!"''<br />
<br />
'''{{rt|109|Hoenn}}'''<br />
: ''"Ahoy! We've made land in <sc>Slateport</sc>! I suppose you're going to visit <sc>[[Captain Stern|Capt. Stern]]</sc> and deliver the <sc>{{key|III|Devon Goods}}</sc>?"''<br />
* Before delivering the {{key|III|Devon Goods}}<br />
: ''"I thought you were supposed to deliver the <sc>Devon Goods</sc>. Would you like to sail back to <sc>{{ci|Dewford}}</sc>, then?"''<br />
:: '''Yes''': ''"<sc>Dewford</sc> it is, then! Anchors aweigh! <sc>Peeko</sc>, we're setting sail, my darling!"''<br />
:: '''No''': ''"Then you go on and deliver the <sc>Devon Goods</sc>. I'll be waiting."''<br />
* After delivering the {{key|III|Devon Goods}}<br />
: ''"Ahoy! For you, I'll go out to sea anytime! Now, my friend, where are we bound?"''<br />
:: '''Dewford''': ''"<sc>Dewford</sc> it is, then! Anchors aweigh! <sc>Peeko</sc>, we're setting sail, my darling!"''<br />
:: '''Exit''': ''"You just tell me whenever you need to set sail again!"''<br />
* Arriving after delivering the Devon Goods<br />
: ''"Ahoy! We've hit land in <sc>Slateport</sc>! You just go on and tell me whenever you want to set sail again!"''<br />
<br />
'''[[Stern's Shipyard]]'''<br />
: ''"Ah, <player>! It's been too long! Aye, since I met you, this old sea dog's been feeling frisky! So I've decided to help <sc>Dock</sc> make a ferry. Aye, after all, a ferry would be able to carry a lot of people. But, you know, that <sc>Dock</sc> is really something special. With his knack for technology and my experience, I'm sure that we can build one great ship, aye!"''<br />
<br />
'''[[S.S. Tidal]]'''<br />
: ''"Welcome aboard, <player>! They made me honorary captain of the <sc>S.S. Tidal</sc>! You can call me <sc>Captain Briney</sc> now! You know, I retired once before, but when I saw this majestic ship... Let me just say, it stirred my sleeping soul as a sailor!"''<br />
<br />
'''[[Lilycove City]]'''{{sup/3|E}}<br />
* After obtaining the [[Old Sea Map]]<br />
: ''"Hold on a second! What's the idea of turning down someone that I owe so much to? <Player>, I'm terribly sorry. You came to me seeking my help, and we almost turned you away. Well, let me make things right. We'll sail right away, of course! Let's find this [[Faraway Island|island]] on this <sc>Old Sea Map</sc>!"''<br />
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====Pokémon Omega Ruby and Pokémon Alpha Sapphire====<br />
{{incomplete|section|some missing quotes, especially for previous areas after delivering the Devon Parts}}<br />
'''{{rt|104|Hoenn}}'''<br />
:''"Hoh hoh hoh hoh! My pretty [[Peeko]]'s as full of energy as usual!"''<br />
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'''{{rt|116|Hoenn}}'''<br />
:''"Ohhh, what am I to do? We were just out on our walk, Peeko and I, when we were attacked by an odd thug… And then the scoundrel made off with my darling Peeko! Where are yooouuu?! Peeeeeeko!"''<br />
<br />
'''[[Rusturf Tunnel]]'''<br />
:''"Peeko! Am I glad to see you're safe! My Peeko owes her life an' freedom to you lad/lass! They call me Mr. Briney. And you are? Ah, so it's <player>, is it now! Then I sincerely thank you, <player>! If there’s ever a thing I can do to help you in turn, don't you hesitate to tell me. If I'm to be found, it will always be at my cottage by the sea near [[Petalburg Woods]]. Come, Peeko! High time we're under way to home!"''<br />
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'''Mr. Briney’s Cottage'''<br />
:''"Hold on, lass! Belay that, Peeko! Oh, if it ain't <player>! You’re the one who saved my Peeko! Aye, but we owe you for that day! What's that? You want to sail with me? What's this all about, then? A [[List of key items in Generation VI#Letter|letter]] bound for [[Dewford Town|Dewford]]? Certainly, that'd be no problem at all. You've come to the right man! Shall we hoist sail for Dewford at once?"''<br />
::'''Head to Dewford''': ''"Dewford, we're a-coming! Anchors aweigh! Peeko, we're setting sail, my darling!"''<br />
::'''Never mind''':<br />
<br />
'''[[Dewford Town]]'''<br />
:''"Ahoy! We've struck land in Dewford, lad/lass. I suppose you'll be heading ashore to deliver that letter to what's-his-name or whomever. If you're ever feeling lost and adrift though, try calling in on the island's Pokémon Gym. The Leader, [[Brawly]], surely knows everyone and everything that goes on in his town!"''<br />
*After delivering letter<br />
:''"Oho! It looks as though you have delivered your chit good and proper. Ah, but that reminds me! I've had a message from [[President Stone]], saying he has another favor to ask. It's about them [[List of key items in Generation VI#Devon Parts|Devon Parts]] that you recovered for him before. Seems as though they should go to some fellow called [[Stern]] at [[Slateport City|Slateport's]] shipyard. This old seadog will see you there safely! Weigh anchors! We're for Slateport!"''<br />
::'''Route 104 (near Petalburg)''':<br />
::'''Route 109 (near Slateport)''': ''"Slateport City, is it? Anchors aweigh! Peeko, we're setting sail, my darling!"''<br />
::'''Never mind''':<br />
<br />
'''{{rt|109|Hoenn}}'''<br />
:''"Ahoy! We've made land in Slateport! I suppose you're off to visit Captain Stern and deliver those Devon Parts?"''<br />
<br />
'''[[S.S. Tidal]]'''<br />
*Conversation with [[Drake]]<br />
:''"...But I thank ye for coming along."'''<br />
:''"Ohoho! Look how thrilled Peeko is to see her old pal Drake! But no need to keep goin' on about it, mind you. Eh-hrrmm. Anyhow, it's a short crossing, so drink it all in, eh?"''<br />
:''"Aye aye, old friend! Full speed ahead."''<br />
*If talk to by the player<br />
:''"Welcome aboard, <player>! They made me honorary captain of this here S.S. Tidal! You can call me Cap'n Briney now! You know, I retired once before, but when I saw this fine ship launched… Let me say it stirred my old sailor's soul, aye, it did!"''<br />
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===Sprites===<br />
{| style="margin:auto; text-align:center; {{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{hoenn color}}; font-size:80%;"<br />
|- <br />
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{hoenn color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Mr Briney OD.png]]<br />
|- <br />
| Overworld sprite from <br>{{color2|000|Generation III|Generation III}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==In the anime==<br />
[[File:Mr Briney anime.png|thumb|230px|Mr. Briney in the anime]]<br />
===Character===<br />
Even though Mr. Briney retired from being a sailor, he was shown to still have the skills as one as he told {{an|May}} his stories about it. He was very caring towards [[Peeko]] as she was usually there with him.<br />
<br />
===History===<br />
Mr. Briney appeared in two episodes of the [[Pokémon anime]].<br />
<br />
He first appeared in ''[[AG018|On a Wingull and a Prayer!]]'' fishing off the pier. {{an|May}} spotted him doing so and asked him for a way to get to [[Dewford Town]] since {{Ash}} and {{ashfr}} were lost. [[Peeko]] flies down to him and Mr. Briney revealed to her that the only person Peeko likes is him. This changed when May brought out Pokémon food. Mr. Briney explained to May about his time as a sailor, only for May to not understand it. Later, Mr. Briney arrived at his house and got confronted by a member of [[Team Aqua]], the same one responsible for stealing from the [[Devon Corporation]] the [[AG017|episode before]]. The grunt captured Peeko in a cage and wanted the boat that Mr. Briney owned. With no other choice, the two of them were about to go on board but the group's interference prevented them from doing so. Despite the group's arrival, the grunt still got on board with Peeko. Luckily, Mr. Briney still had another boat and used it to get his Wingull back. Mr. Brunet was able to retrieve Peeko and as a way of thanking the group, Mr. Briney gave them a ride to [[Dewford Town]] on his boat. <br />
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In ''[[AG019|Sharpedo Attack!]]'', Mr. Briney was still taking the group to Dewford Town. On the way, they take a break on an unnamed island that isn't on any map. While there, a group of {{p|Sharpedo}} arrived. Mr. Briney rescued May and [[Max]] from them with the help of Peeko. The group were able to bypass them and got on the island. The leader Sharpedo arrived when Ash got its attention and Mr. Briney trapped it in a wooden fence. Sharpedo became sick and {{an|Brock}} helped {{p|Sharpedo}} recover. At the end of the episode, Mr. Briney and the group left the island and arrived in Dewford Town. He dropped them off there and waved his farewells to them.<br />
<br />
In ''[[BW141|Best Wishes Until We Meet Again!]]'', {{an|Cilan}} mentions that he is heading to [[Hoenn]] to compete in the {{DL|Fishing|Old Rod}} Fishing Rally that is being hosted by Mr. Briney.<br />
<br />
=== Pokémon ===<br />
{| width="25%"<br />
|-<br />
| {{InactivePoké|Mr. Briney|Wingull|Peeko.png|water|flying|disp=Peeko|link=Peeko}} ♀<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Voice actors===<br />
{{vatable|color={{water color}}|bordercolor={{flying color light}}<br />
|ja=秋元羊介 ''Yōsuke Akimoto''<br />
|en=[[Carter Cathcart|Jimmy Zoppi]]<br />
|no=Trond Teigen<br />
|pl=Andrzej Chudy<br />
|pt_br=Carlos Silveira<br />
|es_eu=Julio Núñez<br />
|es_la=Armando Réndiz}}<br />
<br />
==In the manga==<br />
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===<br />
[[File:Mr Briney Adventures.png|thumb|Mr. Briney in Pokémon Adventures]]<br />
Mr. Briney made his first appearance in the {{chap|Ruby & Sapphire}}, where he found {{adv|Ruby}} unconscious at sea with the help of his {{p|Wingull}}, [[Peeko]]. He rescued Ruby using a net. After Ruby woke up, Mr. Briney explained to Ruby that they are in the middle of sea in {{rt|106|hoenn}}. He sought out his goal to capture a {{p|Relicanth}} as it could help him explore the deeper parts of the ocean. Mr. Briney showed Ruby his Pokémon collection and {{p|Milotic|an extremely beautiful Pokémon}} to convince him that not all fish are ugly.<br />
<br />
While fishing, he catches three {{p|Wailmer}} and keeps them despite the fact that they weren't the mystery fish he was looking for. Mr. Briney goes fishing again and hooks a {{p|Crawdaunt}}. He attacked the boat with {{m|Hyper Beam}} while Mr. Briney struggled to get back on the boat. After Ruby pulled him back on the boat, he found out that Mr. Briney was unconscious and had to defeat the Crawdaunt on his own. Mr. Briney woke up and found out that Ruby bandaged his Peeko and put makeup on her while Crawdaunt became infatuated by [[Kiki]]'s {{a|Cute Charm}}. Mr. Briney arrived at [[Dewford Town]] with Ruby and dropped him off there while getting introduced to {{adv|Sapphire}}.<br />
<br />
Sometime after Ruby and Sapphire were able to put an end to Team Magma and Team Aqua's plans, Mr. Briney boards the [[S.S. Tidal]]. During the {{chap|FireRed & LeafGreen}}, he became the captain of the ship. He contacted an old friend of [[Two Island]], [[Ultima]], about {{p|Mew}} on [[Faraway Island]].<br />
<br />
Later, in the {{chap|Emerald}}, he and his subordinates carried {{adv|Red}}, {{adv|Blue}}, {{adv|Green}}, {{adv|Yellow}}, and {{adv|Silver}} when they were statues to the Battle Tower.<br />
<br />
====Pokémon====<br />
{{incomplete|section|Whisko's Japanese name}}<br />
{{TrainerPoké<br />
|main=Peeko<br />
|trainer=Mr. Briney<br />
|pkmn=Pelipper<br />
|nick=Peeko<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|type2=Flying<br />
|img=Peeko Pelipper Adventures.png<br />
|epnum=PS192<br />
|epname=Stick This in Your Craw, Crawdaunt I<br />
|desc=Peeko (Japanese: '''ピーコちゃん''' ''Peeko-chan'') is Mr. Briney's well-trained Pokémon. It first appeared as a {{p|Wingull}} in the Ruby and Sapphire chapter. Sometime around the {{chap|FireRed & LeafGreen}}, Peeko evolved into a {{p|Pelipper}}.}}<br />
<br />
{{TrainerPoké<br />
|trainer=Mr. Briney<br />
|pkmn=Huntail, Magikarp, and Barboach<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|type2=Ground<br />
|img=Briney Water Pokémon Adventures.png<br />
|epnum=PS192<br />
|epname=Stick This in Your Craw, Crawdaunt I<br />
|desc=Briney's {{p|Huntail}}, {{p|Magikarp}}, and {{p|Barboach}} were seen swimming inside of a tank while Mr. Briney was fishing.}}<br />
<br />
{{TrainerPoké<br />
|trainer=Mr. Briney<br />
|pkmn=Whiscash<br />
|nick=Whisko<br />
|cynick=Gills<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|type2=Ground<br />
|img=Briney Gills Adventures.png<br />
|epnum=PS192<br />
|epname=Stick This in Your Craw, Crawdaunt I<br />
|desc=Mr. Briney has a {{p|Whiscash}} nicknamed ''Whisko''. Whisko can detect an earthquake signal with its whiskers.}}<br />
<br />
{{TrainerPoké<br />
|trainer=Mr. Briney<br />
|pkmn=Wailmer<br />
|nick=Wailmer (×3)<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|img=Briney Wailmer Adventures.png<br />
|img_size=110px<br />
|epnum=PS192<br />
|epname=Stick This in Your Craw, Crawdaunt I<br />
|desc=Mr. Briney caught these three {{p|Wailmer}} while he was fishing out on sea. Even though the Wailmer were not what he was looking for, they were a good catch.<br />
<br />
None of the Wailmer's moves are known.}}<br />
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===In the Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire manga===<br />
[[File:Mr Briney PMRS.png|thumb|Mr. Briney in Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire]]<br />
Mr. Briney appears in ''[[PMRS10|We've Found Team Magma's Secret!!]]'' of the Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire manga.<br />
<br />
In that chapter, he dressed up his {{p|Wingull}}, Peeko, before {{OBP|Red|Pocket Monsters}} came by. During Red's visit, he asked Mr. Briney about the apparently stuffed bird and Mr. Briney revealed it to him as Peeko. Mr. Briney told them that he takes Peeko everywhere he goes, including the rooms in his house. Later, Mr. Briney informed the group that Peeko had a crush on someone, later revealed to be {{TP|Red|Clefairy}}. In time, [[Team Magma]] came by and demand Mr. Briney's Peeko. Peeko refused to go with them and attached herself to Clefairy. Peeko's attachment to Clefairy made Mr. Briney sad. When Peeko went racing around with Clefairy, Mr. Briney went after her and tried to protect her from Team Magma. A can fell off of a balloon Clefairy rode on and Mr. Briney read a letter that was attached to the can, learning that Peeko liked Mr. Briney more than Clefairy and wanted to stay with him. Mr. Briney was quite amused.<br />
<br />
====Pokémon====<br />
{| style="float:left; width: 25%"<br />
|-<br />
| {{InactivePoké|Mr. Briney|Wingull|Peeko PMRS.png|Water|Flying|disp=Peeko|link=Peeko#In the Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire manga}} ♀<br />
|}<br />
{{-}}<br />
<br />
==In the TCG==<br />
This listing is of cards mentioning or featuring Mr. Briney or his Pokémon in the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]].<br />
<br />
{{cardlist/header|Mr. Briney|Trainer|char=yes}}<br />
{{cardlist/entry|cardname={{TCG ID|EX Dragon|Mr. Briney's Compassion|87}}|type=Trainer|type2=Supporter|enset=EX Dragon|enrarity=Uncommon|ennum=87/97|enset2=POP Series 2|enrarity2=Uncommon|ennum2=8/17|jpset=Rulers of the Heavens|jprarity=Uncommon|jpnum=052/054}}<br />
{{cardlist/footer|Trainer}}<br />
<br />
==Trivia==<br />
* The artwork of {{TCG ID|EX Dragon|Mr. Briney's Compassion|87}}, which features Mr. Briney and [[Peeko]], is used as one of the paintings on display in [[Lumiose Museum]] in [[Pokémon X and Y]].<br />
<br />
==Names==<br />
{| style="background: #{{water color light}}; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 3px solid #{{water color}}"<br />
|- <br />
! style="{{roundytl|5px}};" | Language<br />
! Name<br />
! style="{{roundytr|5px}};" | Origin<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| Japanese<br />
| ハギ{{tt|老人|ろうじん}} ''Old Man Hagi''<br />
| From 萩 ''hagi'', {{wp|Lespedeza|Japanese clovers}}<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| English<br />
| Mr. Briney<br />
| From ''brine'', salt water<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| French<br />
| M. Marco<br />
| From ''mer'', sea<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| German<br />
| Mr. Brack<br />
| From ''Brackwasser'', brackish water<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| Italian<br />
| Sig. Marino<br />
| From ''marino'', marine<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| Spanish<br />
| Sr. Arenque<br />
| From ''arenque'', herring<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| Korean<br />
| 하기노인 ''Old Man Hagi''<br />
| Transliteration of his Japanese name<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and mainland China}})<br />
| 哈奇老人 ''Old Man Hǎqí''<br />
| Transliteration of his Japanese name<br />
|}{{-}}<br />
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{{NPC|water|hoenn=yes}}<br />
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}<br />
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{{DEFAULTSORT:Briney, Mr.}}<br />
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[[de:Mr. Brack]]<br />
[[fr:M. Marco]]<br />
[[it:Sig. Marino]]<br />
[[ja:ハギろうじん]]<br />
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<div>{{CharInfobox|<br />
color={{grass color}}|<br />
corecolor={{grass color light}}|<br />
bordercolor={{grass color dark}}|<br />
name=Cilan |<br />
jname=デント |<br />
tmname=Dent |<br />
slogan=no |<br />
image=CilanBW.png |<br />
size=100px | <br />
caption=Cilan in the {{series|Best Wishes}}|<br />
colors=yes|<br />
eyes=Green |<br />
hair=Green |<br />
gender=Male |<br />
hometown=[[Striaton City]] |<br />
region=[[Unova]] |<br />
relatives=[[Chili]], [[Cress]] (brothers)|<br />
trainer=yes |<br />
trainerclass=[[Gym Leader]], {{pkmn|Connoisseur}} |<br />
game=counterpart |<br />
counterpart=[[Cilan]] |<br />
leader=yes |<br />
gym=Striaton Gym |<br />
badge=Badge#Trio Badge{{!}}Trio Badge|<br />
specialist=yes |<br />
type={{type|Grass}}s |<br />
team=no |<br />
brain=no |<br />
anime=yes |<br />
epnum=BW005 |<br />
epname=Triple Leaders, Team Threats! |<br />
enva=[[Jason Griffith]] |<br />
java=[[Mamoru Miyano]] |<br />
}}<br />
<br />
'''Cilan''' (Japanese: '''デント''' ''Dent'') is a former {{ashfr|traveling partner}} of [[Ash Ketchum]]. He made his debut in ''[[BW005|Triple Leaders, Team Threats!]]''.<br />
<br />
==History==<br />
[[File:Cilan anime.png|thumb|235px|left|Cilan during a Gym battle]]<br />
Cilan made his debut in ''[[BW005|Triple Leaders, Team Threats!]]'' running errands in his hometown of [[Striaton City]]. He was intrigued to see an {{TP|Iris|Axew}} and remarked that it and {{an|Iris}} seemed to be perfect partners. He then noticed {{AP|Pikachu}} and examined it excitedly, having never seen one before. When {{Ash}} explained he wanted to challenge the [[Striaton Gym]], Cilan happily showed them the way. He leads them to a café and sits them down at a table, despite their obvious confusion. After toying with Ash for a bit, Cilan reveals that he, along with his brothers [[Chili]] and [[Cress]], are the Gym Leaders at the Striaton Gym. After introducing their Pokémon to Ash, he and his brothers were shocked to hear he wanted to battle all of them, but they happily accepted his offer. Cilan served the role as the judge for his brothers' battles, and finally faced off as Ash's final opponent. After a heated battle with Cilan, which carried on to ''[[BW006|Dreams by the Yard Full!]]'', Ash wins and gets the {{Badge|Trio}}. After the battle, Cilan meets up with Ash at the [[Pokémon Center]] and begs him to tell him his battle secrets for future reference as a Connoisseur. After spending the day with Ash and {{an|Iris}}, Cilan decided to accompany them on Ash's journey, serving as the navigation as well as the cook as revealed in ''[[BW007|Snivy Plays Hard to Catch!]]''.<br />
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In ''[[BW011|A Home for Dwebble!]]'', the group encounters a wild {{TP|Cilan|Dwebble}} making its shell. After it is stolen by a group of thieving Dwebble, Cilan sends his {{TP|Cilan|Pansage}} to follow them. With no luck, the group approached the Dwebble with empathy, but this only scared it and caused it to lash out at their Pokémon. It ends up hitting Pansage with a stray rock, which later ends up making him ill. Once recovered, they try to help Dwebble retrieve his shell which ultimately failed in a 3-to-1 battle. Cilan hatched a plan to lure the Dwebble away with Pokémon food so that the Dwebble to battle them one at a time. The plan was a success and the Dwebble urged to be a part of Cilan's team, who was happy to have it on board.<br />
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In ''[[BW019|A Connoisseur's Revenge!]]'' Cilan revealed that he is a A-class [[Pokémon Connoisseur]] after Ash found a Connoisseur's shop in a [[Poké Mart]]. After doing some shopping, Cilan and Iris find Ash in a different Connoisseur shop belonging to a C-Class Connoisseur named [[Burgundy]]. Burgundy instantly recognized Cilan who stated that he had defeated her in a Gym battle some time before meeting Ash. Seeking total revenge, Burgundy challenged Cilan to a battle to prove she was a better Connoisseur, putting Ash's Pokémon on the line. Cilan accepted the battle, as well as responsibility for whatever might happen to Ash's Pokémon as a result of the battle, much to Ash's dismay. However, Cilan managed to defeat Burgundy without much trouble, and she decided to start her own journey. As the group was seeing Burgundy off, Cilan stepped forward and offered a few words of encouragement to his new rival, who still swore revenge on him and ran off.<br />
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He revealed that he has quite a knack for scientifically thinking in ''[[BW014|A Night in the Nacrene City Museum!]]'', as well as in ''[[BW030|A UFO for Elgyem!]]'' when he, Ash, and Iris witnessed a UFO landing. This led them to the home of [[Professor Icarus]], a scientist in UFO engineering who Cilan admires.<br />
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Cilan showed off some of his skills as a fisherman in ''[[BW032|Facing Fear with Eyes Wide Open!]]'' where he fished a {{TP|Cilan|Stunfisk}} out of a lake that was preventing Ash and {{AP|Oshawott}} from retrieving a water herb that would heal their {{status|poison}}ed Pokémon, using a lure that resembled himself. Though Stunfisk put up a struggle, Cilan confused it by twirling it around in the air with his fishing rod before he slammed it to the ground.[[File:Metro Connoisseur Cilan.png|thumb|right|240px|Cilan wearing his conductor hat.]] This left it unable to battle and he captured it. These skills were put to use again in ''[[BW037|A Fishing Connoisseur in a Fishy Competition!]]'' when he managed to hook a {{p|Basculin}} during a fake fishing competition held by the [[Team Rocket trio]].<br />
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In ''[[BW039|Reunion Battles In Nimbasa!]]'', Cilan signed up to participate in the [[Club Battle]] tournament in [[Nimbasa Town]] along with his friends. He also reunited with [[Burgundy]] who was still determined to get her revenge. It was revealed that his first opponent would be [[Trip]] and their battle began in the [[BW039|next episode]]. He chose {{TP|Cilan|Dwebble}} to go up against Trip's {{p|Gurdurr}}. Initiating all of Dwebble's skills, Cilan was able to defeat him and advance to the second round of the competition, much to Burgundy's dislike. In ''[[BW041|The Club Battle Hearts of Fury: Emolga Versus Sawk!]]'', his second round opponent was [[Luke]]. Cilan chose {{TP|Cilan|Stunfisk}} to go up against Luke's {{p|Larvesta}} and lost, thus knocking Cilan out of the tournament in the second round.<br />
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In ''[[BW047|Crisis from the Underground Up!]]'' and ''[[BW048|Battle For The Underground!]]'' Cilan revealed he had an extensive knowledge of trains, and had once met {{FB|Subway Boss|Emmet}} and {{FB|Subway Boss|Ingo}} at a train convention. He even donned a black conductor's hat similar to Ingo's. Later when {{TRT}} had stolen all of the Pokémon at the Pokémon Center, Cilan used his knowledge to become a major asset for Emmet and Ingo and help rescue the stolen Pokémon.<br />
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Cilan was able to meet up with his brother [[Chili]] again in ''[[BW058|A Call for Brotherly Love!]]''. Chili told him that he came to view the progress of his studying and immediately asked him for a battle to which Cilan accepted. He was able to easily able to defeat [[Chili's Pansear]] with his Pansage which provoked a fight between the High Temp Pokémon and its Trainer. He later learned from Cress that Chili had run away from the Gym because he criticized his battling style. Cilan decided that he would help Chili find his own battle style. While Cress said that Chili needed to not focus on offense so much and focus more on defense, Cilan thought it would be better for him to continue to focus on his offense under the premise of "a good offense is a good defense". He believed that teaching Pansear {{m|SolarBeam}} would be a good way for Pansear to defend itself against {{type|Water}}s and it successfully learned the move with the help of Pansage.<br />
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[[File:Cilan Chili Cress young.png|thumb|left|240px|Young Cilan with his brothers]]<br />
In ''[[BW067|Cilan Takes Flight!]]'', upon seeing that [[Skyla]] was not exercising her job as a Gym Leader properly, he decided to battle her. After seeing that her "Air Battle" system was only trusting in type-matchup, when she told him that she was going to win, he put his efforts after his previous experiences where types didn't tell the outcome of the battle. However, as she had predicted he lost the battle, leaving Ash to attempt in making her have a change of heart, in which he succeeded.<br />
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Cilan also participated in the [[Clubsplosion]] and the [[Pokémon World Tournament Junior Cup]], however he didn't have as much success as his traveling companions, much to his [[Burgundy|rival]]'s delight.<br />
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In the midst of his travels he was hired by [[Mr. Hatterly]] along with [[Ricard Nouveau]], another A-class Connoisseur, in order to choose Mr. Hatterly's [[Marigold|daughter]]'s first Pokémon. Cilan and Ricard didn't come to an agreement due to both having different points of view, and a duel between both Connoisseurs ensued. Even though Ricard's Premium Brand was the Pokémon of Cilan's phobia, a Purrloin, Cilan remained victorious. He then revealed to Mr. Hatterly that he had found out that his daughter had already befriended a Pokémon, a {{p|Foongus}} and convinced him that this would be the best partner for his daughter.<br />
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In ''[[BW123|Farewell, Unova! Setting Sail for New Adventures!]]'' Cilan, Ash and Iris travel to the [[Decolore Islands]] as a means to travel to Ash's home in Pallet Town. The gang is tricked into giving their Pokéballs to Team Rocket however, though they get it back at the end of the episode due to Oshawott freeing them. <br />
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In ''[[BW125|Cilan and the Case of the Purrloin Witness!]]'' Cilan tries to investigate the person who stole the gem of the gem collector Mrs. Ripple. He is victorious in the end figuring out that Teaque, a competitor of Ash in the Marine Cup Tournament, had done it. <br />
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Cilan and the group met up with [[Alexa]], a journalist from the [[Kalos]] region visiting the Decolore Islands to research local festivities on the islands in ''[[BW134|The Journalist from Another Region!]]'' while in Harvest Island. On the island the group enters a Pokémon Sumo competition, which Cilan enters Pansage in. Pansage wins in the beginning, but is eventually defeated. After this, Alexa and the group decide to travel together throughout the rest of their adventures in the Decolore Islands.<br />
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When the group arrives in Kanto after their adventure in the Decolore Islands in ''[[BW141|Best Wishes Until We Meet Again!]]'' Cilan and Iris decide they will stop traveling with Ash. Cilan decides to compete in the {{DL|Fishing|Old Rod}} Fishing Rally that is being hosted by [[Mr. Briney]] in the [[Hoenn]] region and chooses to travel with Iris on the magnet train and then set forth to the competition once in Johto.<br />
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==Character==<br />
[[File:BW035.png|thumb|220px|Cilan as a detective]]<br />
Cilan is an A-class [[Pokémon Connoisseur]] who can see the compatibility between a {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} and its {{pkmn|Trainer}}. He also tends to use the phrase "It's <verb> time!" when addressing a special scenario, such as when he evaluates Pokémon and human relations he says, "It's evaluating time!" in the dub and "It's tasting time!" in the original. During Gym battles in the dub, he will use the phrase, "It's time for the battle to be served!" When capturing a Pokémon, he uses the line 「{{tt|_____ゲットでグッドテイスト!|I got a ____ with good taste!}}」 in the original. He has used different phrases for capturing Pokémon in the dub, however. Like Brock, he has proved himself to be a good cook as he prepares meals for the group, and he also has a very broad knowledge about Pokémon. Cilan also navigates the group on their journey through use of his [[Town Map]], much like [[Max]] who had a [[PokéNav]], and {{an|Brock}} who had maps and a [[Pokégear]]. <br />
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As a Connoisseur, he can read into people's personalities and often finds the best ways to approach them. He's patient and caring towards Ash and Iris, often offering them advice when they don't know what to do. While he has been shown to lose his temper, he quickly moves on and will go out of his way to make up for it. He tends to be an optimist looking at things positively rather than wallowing in defeat.<br />
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He is also shown to be afraid of the paranormal which has made him a skeptic, preferring to find logical scientific explanations for everything, but when he can't find a logical explanation he is typically the first to flee. His love for science is later emphasized upon encountering a possible UFO sighting which leads to him meeting one of his mentors, [[Professor Icarus]]. Cilan also has a passion for sleuthing and will sometimes play detective. He even has a special hat that he wears and a magnifying glass. But he does more than just play as he was able to draw conclusions and come up with ideas in order to find the missing {{p|Audino}} in ''[[BW035|Where Did You Go, Audino?]]''.<br />
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In ''[[BW044|Purrloin: Sweet or Sneaky?]]'', it was revealed that Cilan also has a fear of {{p|Purrloin}}. He stated that one of them did something terrible to him, which he refused to talk about as he didn't want to remember it. In ''[[BW125|Cilan and the Case of the Purrloin Witness!]]'' Cilan overcame his fear a little bit but never truly got over it. The reason for his fear is unknown, although he has told {{Ash}} and {{an|Iris}} about it.<br />
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He, like his brothers, often speaks about Pokémon in relation to their element; in Cilan's case, leaves and herbs. All the brothers tend to use hand positions like rock, paper, and scissors - Cilan emphasizes words using his fingers.<br />
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==Pokémon==<br />
===On hand===<br />
{| width="100%"<br />
|-<br />
| {{ActivePoké|Cilan|Pansage|Cilan Pansage.png|grass}} ♂<br />
| {{ActivePoké|Cilan|Crustle|Cilan Crustle.png|bug|rock|fir=Dwebble}}<br />
| {{ActivePoké|Cilan|Stunfisk|Cilan Stunfisk.png|ground|electric}}<br />
|}<br />
{{left clear}}<br />
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===Released===<br />
{{TrainerPoké<br />
|trainer=Cilan<br />
|pkmn=Basculin<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|img=Basculin Blue-Striped anime.png<br />
|epnum=BW037<br />
|epname=A Fishing Connoisseur in a Fishy Competition!<br />
|vaen=Tom Wayland<br />
|vajp=Unshō Ishizuka<br />
|desc=In ''[[BW037|A Fishing Connoisseur in a Fishy Competition!]]'', Cilan, during a fake fishing competition hosted by the [[Team Rocket trio]], hooked a {{p|Basculin|Blue-Striped Basculin}} and battled it with his {{TP|Cilan|Pansage}}. Basculin fought well, but it was quickly defeated by Pansage's {{m|SolarBeam}}. Cilan promptly caught it in a Fishing Ball and handed it to [[Jessie|one of the contest officials]] for judging. Later on, Team Rocket took all of the competitors' caught Pokémon, and attempted to escape with them. However, a female {{p|Frillish}} managed to release all the caught Pokémon, including Basculin.<br />
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Basculin's known moves are {{m|Water Gun}}, {{m|Bite}}, and {{m|Aqua Tail}}.}}<br />
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==Pokémon competitions==<br />
* [[Club Battle]] - Top 8 (''[[BW041|The Club Battle Hearts of Fury: Emolga Versus Sawk!]]'')<br />
* [[Wishing Bell Festival]] - 5th (''[[BW069|Climbing the Tower of Success!]]'')<br />
* [[Clubsplosion]] - Top 8 (''[[BW072|A Clubsplosion of Excitement!]]'')<br />
* [[Pokémon World Tournament Junior Cup]] - Top 4 (''[[BW091|Battling Authority Once Again!]]'')<br />
* [[Grand Harvest Festival]] [[Pokémon Sumo Tournament]] - Top 16 (''[[BW134|The Journalist from Another Region!]]'')<br />
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==Voice actors==<br />
{{vatable|color={{grass color light}}|bordercolor={{grass color}}<br />
|de=Tim Schwarzmaier<br />
|ja=宮野真守 ''[[Mamoru Miyano]]''<br />
|en=[[Jason Griffith]]<br />
|fr_eu=Maxime Donnay<br />
|it=Davide Albano<br />
|nl=Jurjen van Loon<br />
|no=Scott Maurstad<br />
|zh_cmn=于正昇 ''Yú Zhèngshēng''<br />
|ko=남도형 ''Nam Do Hyeong''<br />
|hr=Zoran Pribičević<br />
|fi=Petrus Kähkönen<br />
|da=Sonny Lahey<br />
|el=Χάρης Γρηγορόπουλος ''Haris Grigoropoulos''<br />
|ru=Диомид Виноградов ''Diomid Vinogradov''<br />
|es_la=Bruno Coronel<br />
|es_eu=Fernando Cabrera<br />
|pt_br=Alex Minei<br />
|pt_eu=Pedro Manana<br />
|id=Turi Sandos<br />
|pl=Robert Kuraś<br />
|cs=Pavel Dytrt<br />
|th=อภินันท์ ธีระนันทกุล ''Apinan Teeranantakul''<br />
}}<br />
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==Artwork==<br />
{| style="margin:auto; text-align:center; {{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{grass color dark}}; background: #{{grass color}}; font-size:80%;"<br />
|- <br />
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{grass color dark}}; background: #{{grass color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:CilanBW1.png|140px]]<br />
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{grass color dark}}; background: #{{grass color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:CilanBW2.png|100px]]<br />
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{grass color dark}}; background: #{{grass color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:CilanBW3.png|140px]]<br />
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{grass color dark}}; background: #{{grass color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:CilanBW4.png|140px]]<br />
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{grass color dark}}; background: #{{grass color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Cilan BW5.png|110px]]<br />
|- <br />
| colspan=5 | Alternative artwork from the<br>{{color2|000|Best Wishes series|''Best Wishes'' series}}<br />
|}<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
[[File:Cilan special lure.png|thumb|240px|Cilan's special lure]]<br />
* Cilan, along with {{an|Iris}}, was first revealed in silhouette in a preview for the {{series|Best Wishes}} that aired after [[DP183]] in Japan on July 1, 2010. The two were revealed in full exactly one month later during a trailer on [[Pokémon Sunday]].<br />
* Cilan is the first of Ash's {{ashfr|male friends}} not to have a traditional Japanese name in the original version of the anime.<br />
* In the games, Cilan can only be battled at the Striaton Gym if the {{player}} chooses {{p|Oshawott}} as their [[starter Pokémon]]. Notably, Ash has obtained {{AP|Oshawott}} from {{prof|Juniper}} as his first out of the Unova starter Pokémon, and used him in his Gym battle against Cilan. The same thing also happened to [[Burgundy]], as she battled him once with an {{p|Oshawott}}.<br />
* Cilan is the first of Ash's {{ashfr|male friends}} to have a fear of {{p|Purrloin|a specific Pokémon}}.<br />
* Of all of Ash's friends that have completed a journey with him and had Pokémon (if the egg of [[Misty's Azurill]] is counted for [[Tracey]]), Cilan has had the fewest, with only three.<br />
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==Names==<br />
{| class="roundy" style="float:left; background: #{{grass color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{grass color}}"<br />
|- style="text-align:center"<br />
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Language<br />
! Name<br />
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Origin<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| Japanese<br />
| デント ''Dent''<br />
| From {{wp|dent corn}}, similar to [[Chili|Pod]] and [[Cress|Corn]]'s names. May also refer to {{wp|trident}}. Also from 田 ''den'', "field".<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| English<br />
| Cilan<br />
| From {{wp|Coriander|cilantro}}.<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| French<br />
| Rachid <br />
| From ''racine'' (root), ''arachide'' (peanut) or possibly ''{{wp|rachis}}''.<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| German<br />
| Benny<br />
| From ''Maiskolben'' (corncob). Related to his brother's name, Maik (Chili) and Colin (Cress).<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| Italian<br />
| Spighetto<br />
| From ''spiga'', {{wp|Ear (botany)|ear of corn}}, and {{wp|Spaghetti|spaghetti}}.<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| Spanish<br />
| Millo<br />
| From ''millo'', maize.<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| Korean<br />
| 덴트 ''Dent''<br />
| Transliteration of his Japanese name.<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and mainland China}})<br />
| 天桐 ''Tiāntóng''<br />
| Rough transcription of his Japanese name. 桐 is also a name for several unrelated species of trees, such as ''{{wp|Paulownia}}'' ({{tt|泡桐|Pāotóng}}), {{wp|Vernicia fordii|tung tree}} ({{tt|油桐|Yóutóng}}), and {{wp|Firmiana simplex|Chinese parasol tree}} ({{tt|梧桐|Wútóng}}).<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| Cantonese<br />
| 天桐 ''Tintung''<br />
| Same as Mandarin name.<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| Thai<br />
| เด็นโตะ ''Dent''<br />
| Same as his Japanese name.<br />
|}<br />
{{-}}<br />
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==Related articles==<br />
* [[Cilan]]<br />
* {{cat|Episodes focusing on Cilan}}<br />
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[[Category:Ash's friends]]<br />
[[Category:Gym Leaders]]<br />
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[[zh:天桐(動畫)]]</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ash%27s_Goodra&diff=2249166Talk:Ash's Goodra2015-02-14T03:48:33Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Protection */</p>
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<div>Shouldn't we put that Goomy may evolve in a future episode as the opening shows Goomy evolving into Goodra.Pichu911 12:05, 8 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
:When the episode in question is revealed, then we'll add it.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 12:11, 8 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Is this trivia worthy? ==<br />
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Is it worth mentioning that Goomy is Ash's first pure Dragon-type Pokémon? --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 18:43, 8 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: I would say no, because this is Ash's second Dragon-type Pokémon not fifth or something like that so it isn't that significant. [[User:StephenWalker97|StephenWalker97]] ([[User talk:StephenWalker97|talk]]) 17:06, 9 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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PKMNAdventurer Stated that Goomy is Ash Full non Secondary Dragon Type Typing,I Meant that because His Gible is a Dragon and Ground Types {{unsigned|TitaniumDrago}}<br />
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Maybe they should add a trivia that says Goomy is the second Dragon type Pokémon who can evolve into a Pseudo Legendary, the first is Gible. [[User:Esquilo30|Esquilo30]] ([[User talk:Esquilo30|talk]]) 03:51, 18 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Seconds are not notable. And saying it is the first pure type is just stretching the trivia to make it notable.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 03:58, 18 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Ability? ==<br />
How do we know that Goomy's ability is Hydtration? Its body drying out is the reason why it needs water which is in its Pokedex entry.Pichu911 21:42, 8 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: Although its already been removed, unless Ash or one of his friends mentions that it being healed is due to Hydration (I don't understand Japanese so I don't know), we shouldn't add it until its confirmed. [[User:StephenWalker97|StephenWalker97]] ([[User talk:StephenWalker97|talk]]) 17:19, 9 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Data Broadcast ==<br />
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We got data broadcast for Sligoo finally so Goomy's rapid evolution was true so shouldn't we now protect the page and put that Goomy is set to evolve in a future episode.Pichu911 00:32, 12 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
:We know it's going to evolve, we don't know ''when''. Until the episode in question has been announced, it will stay unprotected. I've semi protected for now, just in case other users want to add information about it for future episodes.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 03:12, 12 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Actually the broadcast data was for XY065 so we actually know when it is going to evolve.Pichu911 04:53, 12 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Protection ==<br />
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Is it really worth putting up a full protection for this page, I know its because of an user making bad and presumptive edits, but shouldn't we wait until a preview like a magazine reveals the episode number (I think an earlier post mentioned it to be XY065 or something) [[User:StephenWalker97|StephenWalker97]] ([[User talk:StephenWalker97|talk]]) 19:11, 13 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
:I gave users a chance to edit this page, but a few users are really impatient, thus forcing me to fully protect this page.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 02:58, 14 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
:: Fair enough, I didn't know that speculation was that bad on pages with future spoilers, but I see what you're saying [[User:StephenWalker97|StephenWalker97]] ([[User talk:StephenWalker97|talk]]) 17:02, 14 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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{Outdent] I'm going to suggest that protection now be disabled on a trial run. Having full protection prohibits productive work on the page. I do agree that speculation should be restrained, however, and can also keep an eye here if I see anything not allowed. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 19:48, 28 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== XY 061 Preview Confirms Evolution? ==<br />
We have a confirmation of evolution into Sliggoo. Seeing the preview, it shows Goomy seemingly evolving into Sliggoo at some point during the episode. I know we usually wait until the airing of the episode, but I thought I could mention it. Was I right? --[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 03:48, 14 February 2015 (UTC)</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=S17&diff=2238477S172015-01-18T23:49:23Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Evolutions */</p>
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|number=17<br />
|opening=[[Pokémon Theme#Opening animation: Dub OP 17|Pokémon Theme (Version XY)]]<br />
|numeps=48 (1 skipped)<br />
|firstep=XY001<br />
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|next=<br />
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'''Pokémon the Series: XY''' is the seventeenth [[season]] of the [[dub]]bed version of the [[Pokémon anime]]. It follows the conclusion of the third and final dubbed season of {{series|Best Wishes}}, and as such is the first dubbed season of the {{series|XY}}. The season follows {{Ash}} as he continues his journey, venturing in the [[Kalos]] region. It debuted with a special showing of its first two episodes on October 19, 2013, following [[Cartoon Network]]'s showing of ''[[M16|Genesect and the Legend Awakened]]''.<br />
<br />
It began on January 18, 2014 with the dub premiere ''[[XY001|Kalos, Where Dreams and Adventures Begin!]]'', and concluded on December 20, 2014 with ''[[XY049|Bonnie for the Defense!]]''. It originally aired in the United States as part of the 2014 [[Cartoon Network]] Saturday morning line-up.<br />
<br />
It is preceded by [[Pokémon Black & White: Adventures in Unova]], the last season of the [[Best Wishes series]] dub, and will succeed with a 18th season.<br />
<br />
See the [[List of XY series episodes#Pokémon the Series: XY|list of Pokémon the Series: XY episodes]] for a list of episodes aired this season.<br />
<br />
==Important events==<br />
{{spoilers}}<br />
* Serena is introduced. ([[XY001]])<br />
* Ash arrives in Kalos. ([[XY001]])<br />
* {{an|Clemont}} and {{an|Bonnie}} are introduced. ([[XY001]])<br />
* Clemont is revealed to own a {{TP|Clemont|Bunnelby}}. ([[XY001]])<br />
* {{Ash}} meets [[Professor Sycamore]]. ([[XY002]])<br />
* Ash, {{an|Clemont}}, {{an|Bonnie}}, and {{TRT}} learn about [[Mega Evolution]]. ([[XY002]])<br />
* {{an|Serena}} sees Ash on TV and recognizes him from when they were younger. ([[XY002]])<br />
* {{an|Serena}} leaves on her [[Pokémon journey]]. ([[XY003]])<br />
* {{Ash}}, {{an|Clemont}} and {{an|Bonnie}} agree to travel together. ([[XY003]])<br />
* Ash registers for the [[Kalos League]]. ([[XY003]])<br />
* Bonnie befriends a {{p|Dedenne}}. ([[XY003]])<br />
* {{an|Serena}} reunites with Ash and meets {{an|Clemont}} and {{an|Bonnie}} for the first time. ([[XY005]])<br />
* {{an|Serena}} officially joins {{ashfr|the gang}} in their travels. ([[XY007]])<br />
* Ash and {{an|Serena}} meet [[Meyer]], {{an|Clemont}} and [[Bonnie]]'s father. ([[XY009]])<br />
* Ash and Serena learn that Clemont is the ejected [[Gym Leader]] of [[Lumiose Gym]], having been forced to abandon it with Bonnie when [[Clembot]], one of his inventions, ran amok and took over. ([[XY009]])<br />
* Blaziken Mask is revealed to be [[Meyer]], Clemont and Bonnie's father. ([[XY010]])<br />
* Serena and Bonnie learn about Evolution. ([[XY012]])<br />
* {{Ash}} learns of the {{t|Fairy}} type. ([[XY013]])<br />
* {{Ash}} and {{ashfr}} visit the [[Battle Chateau]]. ([[XY020]])<br />
* Ash and friends meet [[Grant]], and learn that he is the [[Cyllage Gym|Cyllage]] [[Gym Leader]]. ([[XY020]])<br />
* Ash wins his first Battle Chateau challenge and becomes a {{tc|Baron}}. ([[XY020]])<br />
* {{Ash}} and {{ashfr}} meet [[Korrina]], the [[Shalour City]] [[Gym Leader]], who starts traveling with the group to hunt for a {{DL|Mega Stone|Lucarionite}}. ([[XY030]])<br />
* [[Korrina]] leaves the group. ([[XY034]])<br />
* {{Ash}} and {{ashfr}} meet [[Shauna]], [[Tierno]], and [[Trevor]] and enter the [[Pokémon Summer Camp]]. ([[XY039]])<br />
* Serena learns of [[Pokémon Showcase]]s and sets her goal to become a Pokémon Performer. ([[XY040]])<br />
<br />
===Party changes===<br />
====Additions====<br />
* [[Ash's Froakie]] ([[XY002]])<br />
* [[Ash's Fletchling]] ([[XY003]])<br />
* [[James's Inkay]] ([[XY003]])<br />
* [[Serena's Fennekin]] ([[XY004]])<br />
* [[Clemont's Dedenne]] ([[XY004]])<br />
* [[Clemont's Chespin]] ([[XY010]])<br />
* [[Jessie's Pumpkaboo]] ([[XY011]])<br />
* [[Ash's Hawlucha]] ([[XY035]])<br />
* [[Serena's Pancham]] ([[XY047]])<br />
* [[Clemont's Luxio]] ([[XY048]])<br />
<br />
====Evolutions====<br />
The following Pokémon evolve:<br />
* Ash's {{p|Fletchling}} [[XY036|&rarr;]] {{AP|Fletchinder}}<br />
<br />
====Releases====<br />
* None<br />
<br />
====Other====<br />
* [[Clemont's Bunnelby]] (obtained prior to [[XY001]])<br />
* [[Clemont (anime)|Clemont's Magnemite]] (obtained prior to [[XY001]], revealed to own in [[XY009]])<br />
* [[Clemont (anime)|Clemont's Magneton]] (obtained prior to [[XY001]], revealed to own in [[XY009]])<br />
* [[Clemont (anime)|Clemont's Heliolisk]] (obtained prior to [[XY001]], revealed to own in [[XY009]])<br />
* [[Clemont (anime)|Clemont's Helioptile]] (evolved into [[Clemont (anime)|Heliolisk]] prior to [[XY001]], revealed in [[XY031]].)<br />
<br />
===Gym battles===<br />
Ash defeats the following [[Gym Leader]]s:<br />
* [[Viola]], after one failed attempt. ([[XY006]])<br />
* [[Grant]] ([[XY025]])<br />
* [[Korrina]] ([[XY044]])<br />
<br />
==Australian Releases==<br />
* Pokémon the Series XY Collection 1 ([[XY001]]-[[XY023]])<br />
<br />
==Gallery==<br />
<gallery><br />
File:Pokémon the Series XY poster.png|The season poster<br />
</gallery><br />
<br />
==In other languages==<br />
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|de={{tt|Pokémon – Die TV-Serie: XY|Pokémon - The TV Series: XY}}<br />
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|da={{tt|Pokémon: Serien XY|Pokémon: XY Series}}<br />
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<br />
==External links==<br />
*[http://www.pokemon.com/us/tv-episodes/season-17/ Pokémon the Series: XY page at Pokémon.com]<br />
<br />
==See also==<br />
{{US Seasons}}<br><br />
{{Project Anime notice|no}}<br />
[[Category:Anime seasons|17]]<br />
[[Category:XY series episodes|*17]]<br />
<br />
[[de:Staffel 17]]<br />
[[fr:Saison 17]]<br />
[[it:Pokémon: Serie XY]]</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=S17&diff=2238475S172015-01-18T23:45:46Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Evolutions */</p>
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<div>{{SeasonInfobox<br />
|colorscheme=Kalos<br />
|name=Pokémon the Series: XY<br />
|image=[[File:Pokémon the Series XY logo.png|240px]]<br />
|caption=XY logo<br />
|number=17<br />
|opening=[[Pokémon Theme#Opening animation: Dub OP 17|Pokémon Theme (Version XY)]]<br />
|numeps=48 (1 skipped)<br />
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|lastep=XY049<br />
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|next=<br />
}}<br />
'''Pokémon the Series: XY''' is the seventeenth [[season]] of the [[dub]]bed version of the [[Pokémon anime]]. It follows the conclusion of the third and final dubbed season of {{series|Best Wishes}}, and as such is the first dubbed season of the {{series|XY}}. The season follows {{Ash}} as he continues his journey, venturing in the [[Kalos]] region. It debuted with a special showing of its first two episodes on October 19, 2013, following [[Cartoon Network]]'s showing of ''[[M16|Genesect and the Legend Awakened]]''.<br />
<br />
It began on January 18, 2014 with the dub premiere ''[[XY001|Kalos, Where Dreams and Adventures Begin!]]'', and concluded on December 20, 2014 with ''[[XY049|Bonnie for the Defense!]]''. It originally aired in the United States as part of the 2014 [[Cartoon Network]] Saturday morning line-up.<br />
<br />
It is preceded by [[Pokémon Black & White: Adventures in Unova]], the last season of the [[Best Wishes series]] dub, and will succeed with a 18th season.<br />
<br />
See the [[List of XY series episodes#Pokémon the Series: XY|list of Pokémon the Series: XY episodes]] for a list of episodes aired this season.<br />
<br />
==Important events==<br />
{{spoilers}}<br />
* Serena is introduced. ([[XY001]])<br />
* Ash arrives in Kalos. ([[XY001]])<br />
* {{an|Clemont}} and {{an|Bonnie}} are introduced. ([[XY001]])<br />
* Clemont is revealed to own a {{TP|Clemont|Bunnelby}}. ([[XY001]])<br />
* {{Ash}} meets [[Professor Sycamore]]. ([[XY002]])<br />
* Ash, {{an|Clemont}}, {{an|Bonnie}}, and {{TRT}} learn about [[Mega Evolution]]. ([[XY002]])<br />
* {{an|Serena}} sees Ash on TV and recognizes him from when they were younger. ([[XY002]])<br />
* {{an|Serena}} leaves on her [[Pokémon journey]]. ([[XY003]])<br />
* {{Ash}}, {{an|Clemont}} and {{an|Bonnie}} agree to travel together. ([[XY003]])<br />
* Ash registers for the [[Kalos League]]. ([[XY003]])<br />
* Bonnie befriends a {{p|Dedenne}}. ([[XY003]])<br />
* {{an|Serena}} reunites with Ash and meets {{an|Clemont}} and {{an|Bonnie}} for the first time. ([[XY005]])<br />
* {{an|Serena}} officially joins {{ashfr|the gang}} in their travels. ([[XY007]])<br />
* Ash and {{an|Serena}} meet [[Meyer]], {{an|Clemont}} and [[Bonnie]]'s father. ([[XY009]])<br />
* Ash and Serena learn that Clemont is the ejected [[Gym Leader]] of [[Lumiose Gym]], having been forced to abandon it with Bonnie when [[Clembot]], one of his inventions, ran amok and took over. ([[XY009]])<br />
* Blaziken Mask is revealed to be [[Meyer]], Clemont and Bonnie's father. ([[XY010]])<br />
* Serena and Bonnie learn about Evolution. ([[XY012]])<br />
* {{Ash}} learns of the {{t|Fairy}} type. ([[XY013]])<br />
* {{Ash}} and {{ashfr}} visit the [[Battle Chateau]]. ([[XY020]])<br />
* Ash and friends meet [[Grant]], and learn that he is the [[Cyllage Gym|Cyllage]] [[Gym Leader]]. ([[XY020]])<br />
* Ash wins his first Battle Chateau challenge and becomes a {{tc|Baron}}. ([[XY020]])<br />
* {{Ash}} and {{ashfr}} meet [[Korrina]], the [[Shalour City]] [[Gym Leader]], who starts traveling with the group to hunt for a {{DL|Mega Stone|Lucarionite}}. ([[XY030]])<br />
* [[Korrina]] leaves the group. ([[XY034]])<br />
* {{Ash}} and {{ashfr}} meet [[Shauna]], [[Tierno]], and [[Trevor]] and enter the [[Pokémon Summer Camp]]. ([[XY039]])<br />
* Serena learns of [[Pokémon Showcase]]s and sets her goal to become a Pokémon Performer. ([[XY040]])<br />
<br />
===Party changes===<br />
====Additions====<br />
* [[Ash's Froakie]] ([[XY002]])<br />
* [[Ash's Fletchling]] ([[XY003]])<br />
* [[James's Inkay]] ([[XY003]])<br />
* [[Serena's Fennekin]] ([[XY004]])<br />
* [[Clemont's Dedenne]] ([[XY004]])<br />
* [[Clemont's Chespin]] ([[XY010]])<br />
* [[Jessie's Pumpkaboo]] ([[XY011]])<br />
* [[Ash's Hawlucha]] ([[XY035]])<br />
* [[Serena's Pancham]] ([[XY047]])<br />
* [[Clemont's Luxio]] ([[XY048]])<br />
<br />
====Evolutions====<br />
The following Pokémon evolve:<br />
* Ash's {{p|Fletchling}} [[XY036|&rarr;]] {{AP|Fletchinder}}<br />
* Ash's {{p|Froakie}} [[XY052|&rarr;]] {{AP|Frogadier}}<br />
<br />
====Releases====<br />
* None<br />
<br />
====Other====<br />
* [[Clemont's Bunnelby]] (obtained prior to [[XY001]])<br />
* [[Clemont (anime)|Clemont's Magnemite]] (obtained prior to [[XY001]], revealed to own in [[XY009]])<br />
* [[Clemont (anime)|Clemont's Magneton]] (obtained prior to [[XY001]], revealed to own in [[XY009]])<br />
* [[Clemont (anime)|Clemont's Heliolisk]] (obtained prior to [[XY001]], revealed to own in [[XY009]])<br />
* [[Clemont (anime)|Clemont's Helioptile]] (evolved into [[Clemont (anime)|Heliolisk]] prior to [[XY001]], revealed in [[XY031]].)<br />
<br />
===Gym battles===<br />
Ash defeats the following [[Gym Leader]]s:<br />
* [[Viola]], after one failed attempt. ([[XY006]])<br />
* [[Grant]] ([[XY025]])<br />
* [[Korrina]] ([[XY044]])<br />
<br />
==Australian Releases==<br />
* Pokémon the Series XY Collection 1 ([[XY001]]-[[XY023]])<br />
<br />
==Gallery==<br />
<gallery><br />
File:Pokémon the Series XY poster.png|The season poster<br />
</gallery><br />
<br />
==In other languages==<br />
{{Epilang|color=cf517e|bordercolor=870735<br />
|de={{tt|Pokémon – Die TV-Serie: XY|Pokémon - The TV Series: XY}}<br />
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|fil=Pokémon the Series: XY<br />
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|da={{tt|Pokémon: Serien XY|Pokémon: XY Series}}<br />
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<br />
==External links==<br />
*[http://www.pokemon.com/us/tv-episodes/season-17/ Pokémon the Series: XY page at Pokémon.com]<br />
<br />
==See also==<br />
{{US Seasons}}<br><br />
{{Project Anime notice|no}}<br />
[[Category:Anime seasons|17]]<br />
[[Category:XY series episodes|*17]]<br />
<br />
[[de:Staffel 17]]<br />
[[fr:Saison 17]]<br />
[[it:Pokémon: Serie XY]]</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Dragalge_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=2184406Dragalge (Pokémon)2014-09-25T20:38:50Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Major appearances */</p>
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<div>{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Skrelp | next=Clauncher | type=Poison | type2=Dragon | prevnum=690 | nextnum=692 }}<br />
{{Pokémon Infobox |<br />
name=Dragalge |<br />
jname=ドラミドロ |<br />
jtranslit=Doramidoro |<br />
tmname=Dramidoro |<br />
species=Mock Kelp |<br />
typebox=1 |<br />
type1=Poison |<br />
type2=Dragon |<br />
abilityn=d |<br />
ability1=Poison Point |<br />
ability2=Poison Touch |<br />
abilityd=Adaptability |<br />
ndex=691 |<br />
karea=Coastal |<br />
kdex=031 |<br />
height-ftin=5'11" |<br />
height-m=1.8 |<br />
weight-lbs=179.7 | <br />
weight-kg=81.5 |<br />
egggroupn=2 |<br />
egggroup1=Water 1 |<br />
egggroup2=Dragon |<br />
gendercode=127 |<br />
eggcycles=21 |<br />
evtotal=2 |<br />
evsd=2 |<br />
expyield=173 |<br />
lv100exp=1,000,000 |<br />
color=Brown |<br />
catchrate=55 |<br />
body=05 |<br />
pokefordex=dragalge |<br />
generation=6 |<br />
friendship=70 |<br />
}}<br />
'''Dragalge''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ドラミドロ''' ''Dramidoro'') is a dual-type {{2t|Poison|Dragon}} Pokémon.<br />
<br />
It [[evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Skrelp}} starting at [[level]] 48.<br />
<br />
==Biology==<br />
Dragalge is a brown aquatic Pokémon that resembles a sea dragon. Its main body is curved in way that resembles the number three. Its sides are a dull shade of purple with slender vertical lines. Its pectoral fins and tail fin resemble dried up kelp. It has a straightened brown snout. Dragalge has a red leaf-like crest and brown-green antenna on top of its head.<br />
<br />
Dragalge is territorial; it can spit poison strong enough to eat through the hull of a tanker at whatever trespasses its territory. It was said that ships that sail through the seas where it lives never return.<br />
<br />
==In the anime==<br />
[[File:Dragalge anime.png|thumb|left|Dragalge in the anime]]<br />
===Major appearances===<br />
Dragalge was set to debut in ''[[XY024|An Undersea Place to Call Home!]]'' alongside its pre-evolution, {{p|Skrelp}}. However, due to the {{wp|Sinking of the MV Sewol|sinking of the MV Sewol ferry in South Korea}}, the episode was postponed. The episode will air November 20th.<br />
<br />
===Minor appearances===<br />
<br />
===Pokédex entries===<br />
<br />
==In the manga==<br />
<br />
==In the TCG==<br />
{{main|Dragalge (TCG)}}<br />
<br />
==Game data==<br />
===Pokédex entries===<br />
{{Dex<br />
|type=Poison<br />
|type2=Dragon<br />
|gen=6<br />
|xdex=Their poison is strong enough to eat through the hull of a tanker, and they spit it indiscriminately at anything that enters their territory.<br />
|ydex=Tales are told of ships that wander into seas where Dragalge live, never to return.<br />
}}<br />
<br />
===Game locations===<br />
{{Availability/Header|type=poison|type2=dragon}}<br />
{{Availability/NA|gen=VI}}<br />
{{Availability/Gen|gen=VI}}<br />
{{Availability/Entry1/None|1|v=X}}<br />
{{Availability/Entry1|1|v=Y|area=[[Ambrette Town]], {{rt|8|Kalos}}, [[Cyllage City]] ({{DL|Fishing|Super Rod}})}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
{{Availability/Footer}}<br />
<br />
===Stats===<br />
====Base stats====<br />
{{BaseStats|<br />
type=Poison|<br />
type2=Dragon|<br />
HP= 65|<br />
Attack= 75|<br />
Defense=90|<br />
SpAtk= 97|<br />
SpDef= 123|<br />
Speed= 44}}<br />
<br />
===Type effectiveness===<br />
{{TypeEffectiveness|<br />
type1=Poison|<br />
type2=Dragon|<br />
Normal=100|<br />
Flying=100|<br />
Fighting=50|<br />
Ground=200|<br />
Rock=100|<br />
Bug=50|<br />
Poison=50|<br />
Ghost=100|<br />
Steel=100|<br />
<br />
Fire=50|<br />
Grass=25|<br />
Electric=50|<br />
Psychic=200|<br />
Water=50|<br />
Ice=200|<br />
Dragon=200|<br />
Dark=100|<br />
Fairy=100}}<br />
<br />
===Learnset===<br />
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br />
{{learnlist/levelh/6|Dragalge|Poison|Dragon|6}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Dragon Tail|Dragon|Physical|60|90|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Twister|Dragon|Special|40|100|20||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Tackle|Normal|Physical|50|100|35}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Smokescreen|Normal|Status|&mdash;|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Water Gun|Water|Special|40|100|25}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|5|Feint Attack|Dark|Physical|60|&mdash;|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|9|Tail Whip|Normal|Status|&mdash;|100|30}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|12|Bubble|Water|Special|40|100|30}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|15|Acid|Poison|Special|40|100|30||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|19|Camouflage|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|23|Poison Tail|Poison|Physical|50|100|25||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|25|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|28|Double Team|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|32|Toxic|Poison|Status|&mdash;|90|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|35|Aqua Tail|Water|Physical|90|90|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|38|Sludge Bomb|Poison|Special|90|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|42|Hydro Pump|Water|Special|110|80|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|53|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|85|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|59|Dragon Tail|Dragon|Physical|60|90|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|67|Twister|Dragon|Special|40|100|20||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/levelf/6|Dragalge|Poison|Dragon|6}}<br />
<br />
====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====<br />
{{learnlist/tmh/6|Dragalge|Poison|Dragon|6}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|&mdash;|90|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM07|Hail|Ice|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM09|Venoshock|Poison|Special|65|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|&mdash;|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM24|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|90|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM25|Thunder|Electric|Special|110|70|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|&mdash;|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM30|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM34|Sludge Wave|Poison|Special|95|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM36|Sludge Bomb|Poison|Special|90|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|&mdash;|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM52|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM55|Scald|Water|Special|80|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM68|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM82|Dragon Tail|Dragon|Physical|60|90|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|&mdash;|90|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM88|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM100|Confide|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|HM03|Surf|Water|Special|90|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|HM05|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tmf/6|Dragalge|Poison|Dragon|6}}<br />
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====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br />
{{learnlist/breedh/6|Dragalge|Poison|Dragon|6}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|422|Shellos}}{{MSP|422E|Shellos}}|Acid Armor|Poison|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|20|||*}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|023|Ekans}}{{MSP|024|Arbok}}{{MSP|194|Wooper}}{{MSP|195|Quagsire}}{{MSP|283|Surskit}}{{MSP|284|Masquerain}}<br>{{MSP|336|Seviper}}{{MSP|658|Greninja}}|Haze|Ice|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|30}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|183|Marill}}{{MSP|184|Azumarill}}|Play Rough|Fairy|Physical|90|90|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|138|Omanyte}}|Toxic Spikes|Poison|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|20|||*}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|336|Seviper}}|Venom Drench|Poison|Status|&mdash;|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/breedf/6|Dragalge|Poison|Dragon|6}}<br />
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====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====<br />
{{learnlist/tutorh/6|Dragalge|Poison|Dragon|6}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor6|Draco Meteor|Dragon|Special|130|90|5||'''|yes|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutorf/6|Dragalge|Poison|Dragon|6}}<br />
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====By a prior [[evolution]]====<br />
{{Learnlist/prevoh|Dragalge|Poison|Dragon|6|6}}<br />
{{Learnlist/prevo5null}}<br />
{{Learnlist/prevof|Dragalge|Poison|Dragon|6|6}}<br />
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===Evolution===<br />
{{Evobox-2<br />
|type1=poison<br />
|type2=dragon<br />
|pictype=art<br />
|no1=690<br />
|name1=Skrelp<br />
|type1-1=Poison<br />
|type2-1=Water<br />
|evo1={{bag|Rare Candy}}<br>{{color2|000|Level|Level 48}}<br />
|no2=691<br />
|name2=Dragalge<br />
|type1-2=Poison<br />
|type2-2=Dragon}}<br />
<br />
===Sprites===<br />
<br />
==Trivia==<br />
* No other Pokémon has the same [[type]] [[List of Pokémon with unique type combinations|combination]] as Dragalge.<br />
* Dragalge has the highest base {{stat|Special Defense}} of all Poison-type Pokémon.<br />
* Dragalge and its {{p|Skrelp|pre-evolution}} are the only {{type|Poison}} Pokémon introduced in [[Generation VI]].<br />
<br />
===Origin===<br />
Dragalge appears to be based on a {{wp|leafy seadragon}}.<br />
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====Name origin====<br />
Dragalge is a combination of ''dragon'' and ''{{wp|algae}}''.<br />
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Dramidoro may be a combination of ''dragon'' and 水綿 ''aomidoro'' (''{{wp|Spirogyra}})''.<br />
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==In other languages==<br />
{{Other languages|type=poison|type2=dragon<br />
|ja=ドラミドロ ''Dramidoro''|jameaning=From ''dragon'' and {{tt|水綿 ''aomidoro'' |Spirogyra}}<br />
|fr=Kravarech|frmeaning=From ''{{wp|Kraken}}'' and ''{{tt|varech|kelp}}<br />
|es=Dragalge|esmeaning=Same as English name<br />
|de=Tandrak|demeaning=From ''{{tt|Tang|seaweed}}'' and ''{{tt|Drache|dragon}}''<br />
|it=Dragalge|itmeaning=Same as English name<br />
|ko=드래캄 ''Deuraekam''|komeaning=From ''dragon'' and {{tt|해캄 ''haekam''|Spirogyra}}}}<br />
{{-}}<br />
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==External links==<br />
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{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Skrelp | next=Clauncher | type=Poison | type2=Dragon | prevnum=690 | nextnum=692 }}<br />
{{Project Pokédex notice}}<br />
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[[de:Tandrak]]<br />
[[fr:Kravarech]]<br />
[[it:Dragalge]]<br />
[[ja:ドラミドロ]]<br />
[[zh:ドラミドロ]]</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Skrelp_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=2184401Skrelp (Pokémon)2014-09-25T20:35:08Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Major appearances */</p>
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<div>{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Barbaracle | next=Dragalge | type=Poison | type2=Water | prevnum=689 | nextnum=691 }}<br />
{{Pokémon Infobox |<br />
name=Skrelp |<br />
jname=クズモー|<br />
tmname=Kuzumo |<br />
jtranslit=Kuzumō |<br />
species=Mock Kelp |<br />
typebox=1 |<br />
type1=Poison |<br />
type2=Water |<br />
abilityn=d |<br />
ability1=Poison Point |<br />
ability2=Poison Touch |<br />
abilityd=Adaptability |<br />
ndex=690 |<br />
karea=Coastal |<br />
kdex=030 |<br />
height-ftin=1'08" |<br />
height-m=0.5 |<br />
weight-lbs=16.1 | <br />
weight-kg=7.3 |<br />
egggroupn=2 |<br />
egggroup1=Water 1 |<br />
egggroup2=Dragon |<br />
gendercode=127 |<br />
eggcycles=21 |<br />
evtotal=1 |<br />
evsd=1 |<br />
expyield=64 |<br />
lv100exp=1,000,000 |<br />
color=Brown |<br />
catchrate=225 |<br />
body=05 |<br />
pokefordex=skrelp |<br />
generation=6 |<br />
friendship=70 |<br />
}}<br />
'''Skrelp''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''クズモー''' ''Kuzumo'') is a dual-type {{2t|Poison|Water}} Pokémon.<br />
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It [[evolution|evolves]] into {{p|Dragalge}} starting at [[level]] 48.<br />
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==Biology==<br />
Skrelp is a brown aquatic Pokémon that resembles a marine animal similar to a seahorse called a sea dragon. The tip of of Skrelp's tail has three leaf-like fins. Skrelp has a pair of roundish, clear pectoral fins on the sides of its body, a dull purple belly and a blunt spike on its hunched back. Skrelp's face is the same colour as its belly, with an upward-pointing snout and red circular eyes with small black pupils. A clear, roundish growth with a brown stem sticks out on the back of Skrelp's head.<br />
<br />
==In the anime==<br />
===Major appearances===<br />
Skrelp was set to debut in ''[[XY024|An Undersea Place to Call Home!]]'' alongside its evolution, but due to the {{wp|sinking of the MV Sewol}} ferry in South Korea, the episode was postponed. The episode will air on November 20th.<br />
<br />
===Minor appearances===<br />
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===Pokédex entries===<br />
<br />
==In the manga==<br />
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==In the TCG==<br />
{{main|Skrelp (TCG)}}<br />
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==Game data==<br />
===Pokédex entries===<br />
{{Dex<br />
|type=poison<br />
|type2=water<br />
|gen=6<br />
|xdex=Camouflaged as rotten kelp, they spray liquid poison on prey that approaches unawares and then finish it off.<br />
|ydex=It looks just like rotten kelp. It hides from foes while storing up power for its evolution.<br />
}}<br />
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===Game locations===<br />
{{Availability/Header|type=poison|type2=water}}<br />
{{Availability/NA|gen=VI}}<br />
{{Availability/Gen|gen=VI}}<br />
{{Availability/Entry1/None|1|v=X}}<br />
{{Availability/Entry1|1|v=Y|area=[[Cyllage City]], {{rt|8|Kalos}}, [[Ambrette Town]] ({{DL|Fishing|Good Rod}})}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
{{Availability/Footer}}<br />
<br />
===Stats===<br />
====Base stats====<br />
{{BaseStats|<br />
type=Poison|<br />
type2=Water|<br />
HP= 50|<br />
Attack= 60|<br />
Defense=60|<br />
SpAtk= 60|<br />
SpDef= 60|<br />
Speed= 30}}<br />
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===Type effectiveness===<br />
{{TypeEffectiveness|<br />
type1=poison|<br />
type2=water|<br />
Normal= 100 |<br />
Fighting= 50 |<br />
Flying= 100 |<br />
Poison= 50 |<br />
Ground= 200 |<br />
Rock= 100 |<br />
Bug= 50 |<br />
Ghost= 100 |<br />
Steel= 50 |<br />
<br />
Fire= 50 |<br />
Water= 50 |<br />
Grass= 100 |<br />
Electric=200 |<br />
Psychic= 200 |<br />
Ice= 50 |<br />
Dragon= 100 |<br />
Dark= 100|<br />
Fairy=50|}}<br />
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===Learnset===<br />
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br />
{{learnlist/levelh/6|Skrelp|Poison|Water|6}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Tackle|Normal|Physical|50|100|35}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Smokescreen|Normal|Status|&mdash;|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Water Gun|Water|Special|40|100|25||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|5|Feint Attack|Dark|Physical|60|&mdash;|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|9|Tail Whip|Normal|Status|&mdash;|100|30}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|12|Bubble|Water|Special|40|100|30||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|15|Acid|Poison|Special|40|100|30||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|19|Camouflage|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|23|Poison Tail|Poison|Physical|50|100|25||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|25|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|28|Double Team|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|32|Toxic|Poison|Status|&mdash;|90|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|35|Aqua Tail|Water|Physical|90|90|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|38|Sludge Bomb|Poison|Special|90|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|42|Hydro Pump|Water|Special|110|80|5||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|49|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|85|100|10||''}}<br />
{{learnlist/levelf/6|Skrelp|Poison|Water|6}}<br />
<br />
====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====<br />
{{learnlist/tmh/6|Skrelp|Poison|Water|6}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|&mdash;|90|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM07|Hail|Ice|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM09|Venoshock|Poison|Special|65|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|&mdash;|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM24|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|90|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|&mdash;|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM30|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM34|Sludge Wave|Poison|Special|95|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM36|Sludge Bomb|Poison|Special|90|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|&mdash;|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM55|Scald|Water|Special|80|100|15||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|&mdash;|90|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM88|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM100|Confide|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|HM03|Surf|Water|Special|90|100|15||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|HM05|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tmf/6|Skrelp|Poison|Water|6}}<br />
<br />
====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br />
{{learnlist/breedh/6|Skrelp|Poison|Water|6}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|422|Shellos}}{{MSP|422E|Shellos}}|Acid Armor|Poison|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|20|||*}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|023|Ekans}}{{MSP|024|Arbok}}{{MSP|194|Wooper}}{{MSP|195|Quagsire}}{{MSP|283|Surskit}}{{MSP|284|Masquerain}}<br>{{MSP|336|Seviper}}{{MSP|658|Greninja}}|Haze|Ice|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|30}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|183|Marill}}{{MSP|184|Azumarill}}|Play Rough|Fairy|Physical|90|90|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|138|Omanyte}}|Toxic Spikes|Poison|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|20|||*}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|336|Seviper}}|Venom Drench|Poison|Status|&mdash;|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/breedf/6|Skrelp|Poison|Water|1}}<br />
<br />
====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====<br />
{{learnlist/tutorh/6|Skrelp|Poison|Water|6}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor5null}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutorf/6|Skrelp|Poison|Water|6}}<br />
<br />
===Evolution===<br />
{{Evobox-2<br />
|type1=poison<br />
|type2=water<br />
|pictype=art<br />
|no1=690<br />
|name1=Skrelp<br />
|type1-1=Poison<br />
|type2-1=Water<br />
|evo1={{bag|Rare Candy}}<br>{{color2|000|Level|Level 48}}<br />
|no2=691<br />
|name2=Dragalge<br />
|type1-2=Poison<br />
|type2-2=Dragon}}<br />
<br />
===Sprites===<br />
<br />
==Trivia==<br />
* Skrelp and its {{p|Dragalge|evolution}} are the only {{type|Poison}} Pokémon introduced in [[Generation VI]].<br />
<br />
===Origin===<br />
Skrelp appears to be based on a {{wp|Phyllopteryx|weedy seadragon}}.<br />
<br />
====Name origin====<br />
Skrelp may be a combination of ''scrawny'' and ''kelp''.<br />
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Kuzumo may be a corruption of クサモドキ ''kusamodoki'' (pseudo-grass) or 藻屑 ''mokuzu'' (seaweed scraps).<br />
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==In other languages==<br />
{{Other languages|type=poison|type2=water<br />
|ja=クズモー ''Kuzumo'' |jameaning=Possibly from {{tt|藻屑 ''mokuzu''|seaweed scraps}} or a corruption of {{tt|クサモドキ ''kusamodoki''|pseudo-grass}}<br />
|fr=Venalgue|frmeaning=From ''venom'' and ''{{tt|algue|algae}}''<br />
|es=Skrelp|esmeaning=Same as English name<br />
|de=Algitt|demeaning=From ''{{tt|Alge|algae}}'' and ''{{tt|igitt|an exclamation of disgust}}''<br />
|it=Skrelp|itmeaning=Same as English name<br />
|ko=수레기 ''Suregi''|komeaning=From {{tt|수 (水) ''su''|water}} and {{tt|쓰레기 ''sseu'regi''|waste}} }}<br />
{{-}}<br />
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==External links==<br />
<br />
{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Barbaracle | next=Dragalge | type=Poison | type2=Water | prevnum=689 | nextnum=691 }}<br />
{{Project Pokédex notice}}<br />
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[[de:Algitt]]<br />
[[es:Skrelp]]<br />
[[fr:Venalgue]]<br />
[[it:Skrelp]]<br />
[[ja:クズモー]]<br />
[[zh:クズモー]]</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Korrina&diff=2180918Talk:Korrina2014-09-22T00:00:21Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Battle Chateau */</p>
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<div>What does her name mean? [[User:Chomper4|Chomper4]] ([[User talk:Chomper4|talk]]) 19:42, 8 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Also, I forgot to mention her helmet resembles an Escavalier. [[User:Chomper4|Chomper4]] ([[User talk:Chomper4|talk]]) 20:23, 8 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Mr. Chomper4 please have some patience as soon as the information will be revealed it will be on the article--[[User:Viv|Viv]] ([[User talk:Viv|talk]]) 04:26, 9 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
:What do you mean "revealed?" It's a name origin. Those don't need reveals. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 04:30, 9 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
I am talking about on what basis Koruni name is chosen or what's the meaning of her name, which was asked by chomper4 @ Mr. Administrator--[[User:Viv|Viv]] ([[User talk:Viv|talk]]) 05:10, 9 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
:It would be more correct to say that when we find out the information, it will be added to the article. "Revealed" implies an official source, and official sources never give name origins. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:24, 9 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Mega Stone in glove ==<br />
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Anyone noticed the Mega Stone in her glove? [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 16:34, 9 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
:That's speculative at the moment. So far, each mega stone has a unique appearance and isn't one solid color, which Korrina's is. {{unsigned|ArcToraphim}}<br />
He might be right though. The stone in her glove looks like a glass marble with a swirl in it. So far this is similar to the appearances of the Mega Stones Lucarionite and Blazekenite, of which it ight be one because she appears to be fighting type. --[[User:Ziggyangelo88|Ziggyangelo88]] ([[User talk:Ziggyangelo88|talk]]) 14:59, 11 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
:"Might be" isn't enough evidence. It must be ''confirmed''. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:14, 11 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
I know this comment is old but can we get rid of this now. It's already been shown she has Mega Lucario on her team why not just get rid of this conversation?--[[User:Hydreigonfan1|Hydreigonfan1]] ([[User talk:Hydreigonfan1|talk]]) 18:09, 9 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:It's against the talk page policy to remove old sections even if they're now obsolete, so I don't see the point of what you're asking... We can't "just get rid of this conversation." [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:03, 9 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== eye colour ==<br />
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it's grey [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 17:05, 9 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== name ==<br />
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriander i think this is right like the other. --[[User:Altruis|<span style="color:#EEB422">Altruis</span>]] [[User talk:Altruis|<sub><span style="color:#551A8B">''でんき''</span></sub>]] 08:28, 10 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== I can't edit this page... ==<br />
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...but I would put this interwiki link : [[:fr:Cornélia]]. Please putting it for me, or giving me the rights to edit this page. (Sorry if my english is bad, I'm a [[:fr:Utilisateur:Matt.|french user]]) [[User:Matt.|Matt.]] ([[User talk:Matt.|talk]]) 19:23, 9 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I've added it. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 19:27, 9 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Fighting Type Leader ==<br />
<br />
I know we're waiting for official confirmation, but here are the things that point to Korrina being a Fighting type leader: Her official profile background is blood red, her badge looks like a boxing glove, her gym looks like a skate park (representing physical activity), she's a roller derby girl, and her outfit somewhat resembles a karate gi. The name also sounds like careen, to lean, sway, or tip to one side while in motion. For reference: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/careen [[User:CoolDudeAl|CoolDudeAl]] ([[User talk:CoolDudeAl|talk]]) 01:13, 13 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Battle Trivia ==<br />
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Is it good trivia to say that she is the first Gym Leader the player has to face multiple times in the Main Storyline? She was battled 3 times, or am i missing someone (Clair & Lance tag team in HGSS was post-game so it doesn't count) [[User:Azure42|Azure/ChromeVoid42]] ([[User talk:Azure42|talk]]) 16:32, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Giovanni wants a word with your "Trivia" :P ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 16:35, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== 31 speed IV Lucario ==<br />
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I'm not sure, but do the Lucario given away always have 31IV on the speed stat. The one I received has 31IVs in speed, and I also have a Korean one with the same. (I checked, the Korean one is the Lucario from the Tower of Mastery) If it always has perfect IVs in speed, shouldn't that be mentioned as well. I know its already mentioned it always has a Hasty Nature. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 22:00, 10 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Has anyone ever received a Lucario that wasn't male and/or didn't have a perfect speed IV of 31? I need this info for both this page and the List of in-game event Pokémon in Generation VI page. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 04:30, 15 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
:: I had 2 Lucario (one from a Wonder trade) and both are male and have 31 IVs in speed. I don't remember if they had the exact same stats (I released the traded one). The one I have has the stats 88/83/48/86/55/79--[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:#ED9121">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#LL0000;">'''(Talk)'''</sub>]] 07:39, 15 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:::So the two Lucario I have (one Korean one from the GTS, one from Korrina from ingame) and the two you got so far all have the perfect speed iv.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 00:24, 16 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::My gift Lucario also has a 31 Speed IV. And my gift Lapras has a 31 HP IV. Seems to me these two are following the 31 IV trend that in-game trades have. <small>[[User:Glik|glik]]</small><sup>[[User talk:Glik|glak]]</sup> 00:53, 16 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==Anime Eye color==<br />
I just noticed Korrina's eye color got changed to like a blueish-green or teal-turquoise in the anime unlike her gray eyes in the games. I just noticed it when they showed an up close of her face in the anime. Did it remain gray it just looks different? Or did they really change it to that color in the anime? If so please add Korrina's anime eye color to her eye color column.<br />
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Grabbergirl ♥ ★ 20:10, 6 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Battle Chateau ==<br />
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So, while playing Pokemon Y, I encountered Korrina at the BC, and her Machamp knew both Earthquake and Stone Edge. I wanted to discuss it here of what moves we know for sure that her Machamp knows before I changed anything. For reference, I didn't use any Writs or anything, and it was lv 40. --[[User:Popopoyotl|Popopoyotl]] ([[User talk:Popopoyotl|talk]]) 04:25, 29 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Episode XY044 ==<br />
Question. Since we know that there will be a Mienfoo and Machoke under the ownership of Korrina, can we list them under the Pokemon section or not? It is not like it is speculation.--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 00:00, 22 September 2014 (UTC)</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Mienfoo_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=2180904Mienfoo (Pokémon)2014-09-21T23:56:08Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Major appearances */</p>
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<div>{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Stunfisk | next=Mienshao | prevnum=618 | nextnum=620 | type=Fighting }}<br />
{{Pokémon Infobox|<br />
name=Mienfoo |<br />
jname=コジョフー |<br />
jtranslit=Kojofū|<br />
tmname=Kojofu |<br />
pron=<sc>''{{{pron|ko-jo-foo}}}''</sc> |<br />
species=<!--ぶじゅつ-->Martial Arts |<br />
typebox=1 |<br />
type1=Fighting |<br />
abilityn=d |<br />
ability1=Inner Focus |<br />
ability2=Regenerator |<br />
abilityd=Reckless |<br />
ndex=619 |<br />
udex=125 |<br />
u2dex=219 |<br />
karea=Coastal |<br />
kdex=003 |<br />
height-ftin=2'11" |<br />
height-m=0.9 |<br />
weight-lbs=44.1 |<br />
weight-kg=20.0 |<br />
egggroupn=2 |<br />
egggroup1=Field |<br />
egggroup2=Human-Like |<br />
eggcycles=26 |<br />
expyield=70 |<br />
lv100exp=1,059,860 |<br />
gendercode=127 |<br />
color=Yellow |<br />
catchrate=180 |<br />
evtotal=1|<br />
evat=1|<br />
body=06 |<br />
pokefordex=mienfoo |<br />
generation=5 |<br />
friendship=70|<br />
}}<br />
'''Mienfoo''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''コジョフー''' ''Kojofu'') is a {{type|Fighting}} Pokémon.<br />
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It [[Evolution|evolves]] into {{p|Mienshao}} starting at [[level]] 50.<br />
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==Biology==<br />
Mienfoo is a yellow, bipedal, mustelid-like Pokémon, with round ears, red eyes, round black ‘eyebrows,’ and pink nose with a whisker on each side. Its red arms look similar to flared sleeves, and the paws are yellow. Mienfoo’s chest has a small red band, and its pelt piles around its thighs resembling a tunic or robe. Its legs are red, and its yellow tail is also tipped red. It is a very skillful attacker.<br />
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==In the anime==<br />
[[File:Cliff Mienfoo.png|thumb|left|250px|Mienfoo in the anime]]<br />
===Major appearances===<br />
Mienfoo made its debut in ''[[BW046|The Beartic Mountain Feud!]]'' under the ownership of [[Cliff]].<br />
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A Mienfoo is set to appear in [[XY044]], under the ownership of [[Korrina]].<br />
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===Minor appearances===<br />
A Mienfoo appeared in a fantasy in ''[[BW070|The Clubsplosion Begins!]]''.<br />
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A Mienfoo made a minor appearance in ''[[BW083|Rocking at the Virbank Gym! Part 1]]''.<br />
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A Mienfoo appeared as a mask for the festival in ''[[BW133|Capacia Island UFO!]]''.<br />
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Two Mienfoo appeared in a flashback/fantasy in ''[[XY035|The Forest Champion!]]''. <br />
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===Pokédex entries===<br />
{{Animedexheader|Unova}}<br />
{{Animedexbody|BW046|Mienfoo|Ash's Pokédex|Mienfoo, the Martial Arts Pokémon. Mienfoo's sharp claws strike quickly and precisely. It also overwhelms opponents with its skillful combination attacks.}}<br />
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Best Wishes''|Unova}}<br />
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==In the manga==<br />
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===<br />
[[Lysandre]] owns a Mienfoo in the {{chap|X & Y}}.<br />
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==In the TCG==<br />
{{main|Mienfoo (TCG)}}<br />
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==Game data==<br />
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===Pokédex entries===<br />
{{Dex<br />
|type=Fighting<br />
|gen=5<br />
|blackdex=In fights, they dominate with onslaughts of flowing, continuous attacks. With their sharp claws, they cut enemies.<br />
|whitedex=They have mastered elegant combos. As they concentrate, their battle moves become swifter and more precise.<br />
|b2w2dex=It takes pride in the speed at which it can use moves. What it loses in power, it makes up for in quantity.<br />
|xdex=It takes pride in the speed at which it can use moves. What it loses in power, it makes up for in quantity. <br />
|ydex=In fights, they dominate with onslaughts of flowing, continuous attacks. With their sharp claws, they cut enemies.<br />
}}<br />
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===Game locations===<br />
{{Availability/Header|type=fighting}}<br />
{{Availability/NA|gen=V}}<br />
{{Availability/Gen|gen=V}}<br />
{{Availability/Entry2|v=Black|v2=White|t=fff|area=[[Dragonspiral Tower]], {{OBP|Victory Road|Black and White}}, {{rt|14|Unova}}{{tt|*|regular grass only}}}}<br />
{{Availability/Entry2|v=Black 2|v2=White 2|t=fff|area=[[Route]]s {{rtn|14|Unova}}, {{rtn|22|Unova}} and {{rtn|23|Unova}}{{tt|*|regular grass only}}<br/>[[Dragonspiral Tower]]{{sup/s|W}}<br/>{{rt|22|Unova}} ([[Hidden Grotto]])}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
{{Availability/Gen|gen=VI}}<br />
{{Availability/Entry2|v=X|v2=Y|t=fff|area={{rt|8|Kalos}}, [[Friend Safari]] ([[Friend Safari#Fighting-type Safari|Fighting]])}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
{{Availability/Footer}}<br />
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====In side games====<br />
{{SidegameAvail<br />
|type=fighting<br />
|rumble2=Canyon: [[Volcanic Slope]], [[Rugged Flats]]<br>Meadow: [[World Axle - B1F]]<br />
|mdgti=[[Tempting Path]], [[Telluric Path]], [[Great Glacier]], [[Redland Reaches]], [[Eastern Savanna]]<br>Magnagate dungeons, [[Mt. Travail]], [[Moonlit Forest]], [[Dreamy Island]] (Golden Chamber),<br>[[Rusty Mountain]] (Mapless Street), [[Silent Tundra]] (Golden Chamber), <br />
}}<br />
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===Held items===<br />
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===Stats===<br />
====Base stats====<br />
{{BaseStats|<br />
type=Fighting|<br />
HP=45|<br />
Attack=85|<br />
Defense=50|<br />
SpAtk=55|<br />
SpDef=50|<br />
Speed=65}}<br />
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===Type effectiveness===<br />
{{TypeEffectiveness|<br />
type1=fighting|<br />
Normal= 100 |<br />
Flying= 200 |<br />
Fighting=100 |<br />
Ground= 100 |<br />
Rock= 50 |<br />
Bug= 50 |<br />
Poison= 100 |<br />
Ghost= 100 |<br />
Steel= 100 |<br />
Fire= 100 |<br />
Water= 100 |<br />
Grass= 100 |<br />
Electric=100 |<br />
Psychic= 200 |<br />
Ice= 100 |<br />
Dragon= 100 |<br />
Dark= 50 |<br />
Fairy= 200}}<br />
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===Learnset===<br />
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br />
{{learnlist/levelh/6|Mienfoo|Fighting|Fighting|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Pound|Normal|Physical|40|100|35}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|5|Meditate|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|40}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|9|Detect|Fighting|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|13|Fake Out|Normal|Physical|40|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|17|Double Slap|Normal|Physical|15|85|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|21|Swift|Normal|Special|60|&mdash;|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|25|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|29|Force Palm|Fighting|Physical|60|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|33|Drain Punch|Fighting|Physical|75|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|37|Jump Kick|Fighting|Physical|100|95|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|41|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|45|Quick Guard|Fighting|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|49|Bounce|Flying|Physical|85|85|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|50|High Jump Kick|Fighting|Physical|130|90|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|57|Reversal|Fighting|Physical|&mdash;|100|15||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|61|Aura Sphere|Fighting|Special|80|&mdash;|20||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/levelf/6|Mienfoo|Fighting|Fighting|5}}<br />
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====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====<br />
{{learnlist/tmh/6|Mienfoo|Fighting|Fighting|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM04|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|&mdash;|90|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM08|Bulk Up|Fighting|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM12|Taunt|Dark|Status|&mdash;|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|&mdash;|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|&mdash;|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM28|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM31|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM33|Reflect|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM39|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|60|95|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM40|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|&mdash;|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|&mdash;|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM47|Low Sweep|Fighting|Physical|65|100|20||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM52|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM56|Fling|Dark|Physical|&mdash;|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM62|Acrobatics|Flying|Physical|55|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM66|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM67|Retaliate|Normal|Physical|70|100|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM71|Stone Edge|Rock|Physical|100|80|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM75|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM80|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM83|Work Up|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|30}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM84|Poison Jab|Poison|Physical|80|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM86|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|&mdash;|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|&mdash;|90|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM88|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM89|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM94|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM98|Power-Up Punch|Fighting|Physical|40|100|20||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|TM100|Confide|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm6|HM04|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tmf/6|Mienfoo|Fighting|Fighting|5}}<br />
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====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br />
{{learnlist/breedh/6|Mienfoo|Fighting|Fighting|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|064|Kadabra}}{{MSP|065|Alakazam}}|Ally Switch|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|122|Mr. Mime}}{{MSP|133|Eevee}}{{MSP|161|Sentret}}{{MSP|162|Furret}}{{MSP|190|Aipom}}{{MSP|424|Ambipom}}<br>{{MSP|203|Girafarig}}{{MSP|303|Mawile}}{{MSP|427|Buneary}}{{MSP|428|Lopunny}}{{MSP|504|Patrat}}{{MSP|505|Watchog}}|Baton Pass|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|40}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|106|Hitmonlee}}{{MSP|220|Swinub}}{{MSP|221|Piloswine}}{{MSP|473|Mamoswine}}{{MSP|231|Phanpy}}{{MSP|288|Vigoroth}}<br>{{MSP|296|Makuhita}}{{MSP|297|Hariyama}}{{MSP|417|Pachirisu}}{{MSP|427|Buneary}}{{MSP|428|Lopunny}}{{MSP|538|Throh}}<br>{{MSP|539|Sawk}}{{MSP|613|Cubchoo}}{{MSP|614|Beartic}}|Endure|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10|||}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|025|Pikachu}}{{MSP|052|Meowth}}{{MSP|053|Persian}}{{MSP|106|Hitmonlee}}{{MSP|107|Hitmonchan}}{{MSP|237|Hitmontop}}<br>{{MSP|307|Meditite}}{{MSP|308|Medicham}}{{MSP|352|Kecleon}}{{MSP|359|Absol}}{{MSP|391|Monferno}}{{MSP|392|Infernape}}<br>{{MSP|434|Stunky}}{{MSP|435|Skuntank}}{{MSP|448|Lucario}}{{MSP|652|Chesnaught}}|Feint|Normal|Physical|30|100|10|||}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|083|Farfetch'd}}{{MSP|232|Donphan}}{{MSP|296|Makuhita}}{{MSP|297|Hariyama}}{{MSP|302|Sableye}}|Knock Off|Dark|Physical|65|100|25|||}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|056|Mankey}}{{MSP|057|Primeape}}{{MSP|066|Machop}}{{MSP|067|Machoke}}{{MSP|068|Machamp}}{{MSP|125|Electabuzz}}<br>{{MSP|466|Electivire}}{{MSP|505|Watchog}}{{MSP|532|Timburr}}{{MSP|533|Gurdurr}}{{MSP|534|Conkeldurr}}{{MSP|559|Scraggy}}<br>{{MSP|560|Scrafty}}|Low Kick|Fighting|Physical|&mdash;|100|20||||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|161|Sentret}}{{MSP|162|Furret}}{{MSP|234|Stantler}}{{MSP|359|Absol}}{{MSP|448|Lucario}}|Me First|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|20|||}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|296|Makuhita}}{{MSP|297|Hariyama}}|Smelling Salts|Normal|Physical|70|100|10|||}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|066|Machop}}{{MSP|067|Machoke}}{{MSP|068|Machamp}}{{MSP|296|Makuhita}}{{MSP|297|Hariyama}}<br>{{MSP|538|Throh}}{{MSP|674|Pancham}}{{MSP|675|Pangoro}}|Vital Throw|Fighting|Physical|70|&mdash;|10||||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/breedf/6|Mienfoo|Fighting|Fighting|5}}<br />
<br />
====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====<br />
{{learnlist/tutorh/6|Mienfoo|fighting|fighting|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor5null}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutorf/6|Mienfoo|fighting|fighting|5}}<br />
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===Side game data===<br />
{{Sidegame|<br />
type=Fighting |<br />
ndex=619 |<br />
rumble2=yes|<br />
rumble2attack=3 |<br />
rumble2defense=2 |<br />
rumble2speed=3 |<br />
}}<br />
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===Evolution===<br />
{{evobox-2<br />
|type1=fighting<br />
|no1=619<br />
|name1=Mienfoo<br />
|type1-1=Fighting<br />
|evo1={{bag|Rare Candy}}<br>{{color2|000|Level|Level 50}}<br />
|no2=620<br />
|name2=Mienshao<br />
|type1-2=Fighting<br />
}}<br />
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===Sprites===<br />
{{Spritebox/Header|type=fighting}}<br />
{{Spritebox/NA|gen=V}}<br />
{{Spritebox/5|ndex=619}}<br />
{{Spritebox/Footer|619|Mienfoo}}<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
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===Origin===<br />
Mienfoo appears to be based on combination of a {{wp|Mustelidae|Mustelid}} and a user of {{wp|Kung fu}}.<br />
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====Name origin====<br />
Mienfoo may be a combination of ''{{wp|Stoat|ermine}}'' and ''{{wp|Kung fu}}''.<br />
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Kojofu is a combination of オコジョ ''okojo'' (ermine) and ''Kung fu''.<br />
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==In other languages==<br />
{{Other languages|type=fighting|type2=fighting<br />
|ja=コジョフー ''Kojofu''|jameaning=From {{tt|オコジョ ''okojo''|ermine}} and ''Kung fu''<br />
|fr=Kungfouine|frmeaning=From ''Kung-Fu'' and ''{{tt|fouine|weasel}}''<br />
|es=Mienfoo|esmeaning=Same as English name<br />
|de=Lin-Fu|demeaning=From ''{{tt|Hermelin|ermine, stoat}}'' and ''Kung-Fu''<br />
|it=Mienfoo|itmeaning=Same as English name<br />
|ko=비조푸 ''Bijopu''|komeaning=From {{tt|담비 ''dambi''|marten}}, {{tt|족제비 ''jokjebi''|weasel}}, {{tt|비 (飛) ''bi''|agile}}, {{tt|オコジョ ''okojo''|ermine}}, and ''Kung-fu''<br />
|zh_cmn=功夫鼬 ''Gōngfuyòu''|zh_cmnmeaning=Literally "Kung-Fu weasel"<br />
}}<br />
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[[zh:功夫鼬]]</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Baby_Pok%C3%A9mon&diff=2171040Talk:Baby Pokémon2014-09-08T01:12:56Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Does Mega Lucario not count as an evolution in regard to baby pokemon? */ new section</p>
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<div>==Togepi==<br />
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Is Togepi a baby? I've never heard that before...Although it makes sense. Anyone wanna verify? The only "baby" PKMN I knew of were the pre-evos of preexisting pogeys. {{unsigned|Evkl}}<br />
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Well, that's exactly why I added that note on the bottom. But if you compare other babies to Togepi, the only thing it's messing is an old evolution. It's not a pre-evolution, but it is a baby. - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 20:42, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)<br />
:Same could be said about {{p|Riolu}}, as it's obtained in a similar way to Togepi in DP. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 03:35, 25 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
:: Well, Togepi is a Baby Pokemon as of Generation IV because of it's final evolution... if you catch my drift [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 21:13, 26 July 2007 (UTC)<br />
:::Then that would imply that any other Pokémon that evolves twice would be a baby Pokémon. Charmander isn't. Oddish isn't. I think essentially the definition is that a baby Pokémon is a Pokémon that can't breed, but its evolution(s) can. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[wp:Echidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">E</span><span style="color:#0000FF;">chidna</span>]]''' 21:17, 26 July 2007 (UTC)<br />
:: Ok, that seems to sound better. oh yeah and how come the tables titles are all black when the background is back as well? [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 21:22, 26 July 2007 (UTC)<br />
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There's one problem with the idea of Riolu being a Baby... the TCG doesn't agree. In the cards, Riolu's a Basic and Lucario's Stage-1. And frankly, given Lucario's D/P base stats, Stage-1 makes more sense. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 18:42, 13 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:That's the ''same problem'' with Togepi. But remember, the TCG still regards Pikachu as Basic to maintain cross-gen compatability, when really it's a Stage 1 now. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:52, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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::Huh? The system as I understand it is Baby > Basic > Stage 1 > Stage 2. Pichu's Baby level, Pikachu's Basic, Raichu's Stage-1. How the heck would Pikachu be a Stage-1? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:34, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Well, quite frankly Pikachu is ''the first evolved stage'' of its family lane - better yet, since there is no "Chu Laxence", in the Pokémon world biota all the Pikachus are born as Pichus. One could assume that even the Pikachu that are found in the wild have evolved already, making it a natural stage 1 evolution. The TCG is always a different media - why should Togepi or Riolu be stripped from their (in my opinion obvious) status of Baby Pokémon according to the Card Game when the very same game also lets us know that Nidoran and Gastly are Psychic Pokémon, Charizard learns attacks called 'Nail Flick' and 'Continuous Fireball', Erika has a Clefairy and evolving a Pokémon heals it from Status conditions? [[User:Sipulichu|Sipulichu]] 19:18, 28 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Phione ==<br />
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I don't know who added it, but Phione's baby status is illogical. It can breed, therefore it can't be a baby. I'm taking it out unless there's some sort of general consensus with some good logic behind it. --[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 15:21, 6 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:That won't get you a Manaphy. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 16:13, 6 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
::I think there should be a small note about Phione. It should mention that, because of it's ability to breed, it can't be considered a Baby Pokémon. --[[User:JMS|JMS]] 20:55, 4 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::I personally think it shouldn't really even ''be'' here in the first place anyway. It's as much a baby as the legendary birds are related like the Hitmon family. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:54, 5 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Yea, it should be taken out. I'll do that now. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 11:50, 5 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::It looks like it has been taken out already. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 11:53, 5 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Tyrogue and Hitmontop ==<br />
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If we apply the same rules of Togepi and Riolu to Tyrogue, considering an evolution was introduced in the same generation, should we take Hitmontop out?--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c41a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 00:38, 5 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
: No, because of Hitmonchan and Hitmonlee... [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 13:08, 5 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Togepi and Riolu are here last I checked. They only aren't babies because the TCG was stupid when making the families based off of one evolutionary level... '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:01, 28 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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Baby Pokémon can by classified as such by these four simple rules:<br />
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#Can be obtainable by hatching an egg.<br />
#Must be lowest form in a family chain.<br />
#Must be able to evolve at least once.<br />
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This should clear up some confusion, right? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#003366" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#008000" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#800000">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 23:38, 28 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:Maybe that should go in the article --[[User:Blackstone Dresden|Blackstone Dresden]] 16:15, 24 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Wynaut ==<br />
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The article says "In addition, until Generation IV, they were not found in the wild with the exception of Wynaut." Since Wynaut is a baby Pokémon, the first time they were found in the wild is Gen III. The way the line is typed doesn't make much sense. Why exclude Wynaut? I think it should be re-written. '''''[[User:GuyNamedSean|Sean...]] [[Dialga (Pokémon)|Lord]] [[User talk:GuyNamedSean|of the]] [[Darkrai (Pokémon)|Shadows!!!]]''''' 18:11, 11 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Riolu==<br />
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How is Riolu a baby Pokemon? Considering the fact they appeared in the same generation as it's evolved form. Even Lucario's trading card states it's a stage 1 Pokemon thus disproving that Riolu is NOT a baby Pokemon. - [[User:Parasector]]<br />
:Riolu is a baby Pokémon the same way Togepi is: both are unable to breed until they evolve. That's our definition, as stated at the top of the page. The TCG doesn't write the rules for the series. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 23:50, 6 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Phione forever==<br />
I think that we should add a special category for Phione in this Page because of its special condition.<br />
Phione since can only be obtanaible by breeding which makes it as a Baby Pokémon that's because I think it is a Baby Pokémon, but it do can breed, but it doesn't imply the way its born. {{unsigned|Igor Castro Chucre}}<br />
:However, not only can it breed itself but it also cannot evolve into the Pokémon that is its parent, which is true for every other Baby Pokémon. Phione doesn't fit the requirements. - [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 16:51, 26 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Outdated trivia ==<br />
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If there are no objections in a week, I'm going to remove "Generation I and Generation V are the only generations in which no baby Pokémon were introduced," as that just doesn't seem notable by Gen VI, as it didn't, either. Maybe 2/5 was okay, but 3/6 (1/2) just seems unnotable. --[[User:WyndFox|<span>Wynd</span>]] [[User talk:WyndFox|<span>Fox</span>]] 06:17, 27 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Pokédex]] entry closeness ==<br />
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I'm thinking that it ''might'' be worth noting that in each [[generation]], excluding [[generation III]], with Baby Pokémon, the Pokédex entries of the Baby Pokémon introduced in that generation are extremely close to the Pokédex entries of other Baby Pokémon introduced in that generation, with the exception of Budew. But as I said, I'm not completely sure if I should. I guess I'm asking for the OK to do it. [[User:Mangaman13|Mangaman13]] ([[User talk:Mangaman13|talk]]) 18:33, 11 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I've looked at three baby Pokemon from Gen II, and they aren't that similar at all. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 18:36, 11 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:Let me rephrase that. The Pokédex entries are extremely close ''together''. [[User:Mangaman13|Mangaman13]] ([[User talk:Mangaman13|talk]]) 18:38, 11 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Like how #238, #239, and #240 are Smoochum, Elekid, and Magby, etc? [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 18:39, 11 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::Yes, like that. [[User:Mangaman13|Mangaman13]] ([[User talk:Mangaman13|talk]]) 18:41, 11 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::Mantyke also isn't close to any other, so there are too many exceptions.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 18:49, 11 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:::OK. [[User:Mangaman13|Mangaman13]] ([[User talk:Mangaman13|talk]]) 18:51, 11 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== TCG ==<br />
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Is this needed? I know there are a lot more cards with Baby Pokémon on them. If we are addding any, we should add them all. [[User:ZeroLinkYoshi|ZeroLinkYoshi]] ([[User talk:ZeroLinkYoshi|talk]]) 14:03, 3 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Instead of a list, the section should explain what Baby Pokémon are in reference to the TCG. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 14:22, 3 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==Evidence==<br />
You know how if you look at a Pikachu card and it says "Basic" on it? We know it's because it's pre evolution is a baby. But Lucario's card says "Stage 1", as does Togetic's. That is proof that Togepi and Riolu are not babies. Crum Mum 16:00, 4 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
:The games define baby Pokémon, not the TCG; just because they're not treated as baby Pokémon in the TCG doesn't mean they don't fit the criteria for the games. Togepi and Riolu are the only baby Pokémon introduced in the same generation as their evolutions, so the TCG didn't have to do what it normally does with babies, since one did not exist before the other. Also, your signature has to link to your user page. <small>[[User:Glik|glik]]</small><sup>[[User talk:Glik|glak]]</sup> 16:52, 4 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Does Mega Lucario not count as an evolution in regard to baby pokemon? ==<br />
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Hello. I noticed that it says Lucario cannot evolve. It can through Mega Evolution, so does Mega Evolution status not count in regard to baby pokemon and the listings of this page?<br />
If it counts, that would also change the trivia.--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 01:12, 8 September 2014 (UTC)</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Counter_Shield&diff=1965368Talk:Counter Shield2013-09-10T17:11:45Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Dawn's Ambipom */</p>
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<div>I recall something similar with Ash's gym battle against Jasmine's Steelix. When {{AP|Cyndaquil}} tried to attack, Steelix used Sandstorm and moved around to protect itself...similar? [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#D5AA00"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 19:45, 23 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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I also know that Bugsy's Scyther was able to use Swords Dance to create a wind-themed shield to block the Flamethrower attack from Ash's Cyndaquil. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 03:47, 18 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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I can understand you but at that time there was no concept of "Counter Shield" just like abilities.<br />
--<span style="color:#00DD00">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#00DD00">♪♫</span> 04:06, 18 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
: Ummm, that's how they use the moves.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#DAA520">'''F'''</span>]][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#DAA520">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">'''F'''</span>]][[Lugia (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">ire</span>]] 07:30, 18 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Yes, that's what i think.<br />
--<span style="color:#00DD00">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#00DD00">♪♫</span> 09:23, 18 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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If that's the case, there's contradictions... was it mentioned in the anime that Ash's Pikachu, Monferno, and Fantina's Drifblim specifically used this tactic then? If not, there's no significance to this page... [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#D5AA00"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 15:08, 2 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Dawn's Spin ==<br />
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We have an article on Counter Shields but what about Dawn's Spin that has made so many variations. I think that's notable enough to make an article on. Beside's many of my budz wanted to learn more about that but couldn't find a place to read about it. --[[User:Landfish7| <font color="red">Land</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Broadway"><small><font color="orange">fish</font></small></span>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<font color="blue"><sup>7</sup></font>]] 18:23, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
:because they are contest moves, not strategic moves.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#DAA520">'''F'''</span>]][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#DAA520">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">'''F'''</span>]][[Lugia (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">ire</span>]] 07:30, 18 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Buizel ==<br />
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Shall we put a picture of Buizel's Water Gun variation as well as the Aqua Jet method? --[[User:Ripp145|Ripp145]] 20:13, 2 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:One picture of Buizel should be enough, unless you feel it's absolutely necessary to have another. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 21:19, 2 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
::One water gun picture is enough and secondly, are you talking about Ice Aqua Jet? --<span style="color:#00DD00">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#00DD00">♪♫</span> 03:56, 3 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:::If you mean Ice Aqua Jet, then maybe. Depends on which is used more. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 21:41, 3 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
::::I think they are referring to at the start of [[DP096|Losing Its Lustrous!]], where Ash told Buizel to use Aqua Jet to show his counter shield idea off to Dawn. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|<small>(talk)</small>]] 22:05, 3 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== May's Beutifly ==<br />
didn't it do something like counter shield in Win,Loose or Drew? Should it be acced because of this? Lucariade 16:45, 25 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Dawn's Ambipom==<br />
She it be noted that Dawn's Ambipom knows it, since Ash got the idea from watching Ambipom use the technique? [[User:JessiPlatinum|JessiPlatinum]] 15:32, 4 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
==Skyla's Swanna's Aqua Ring?==<br />
When I was watching the Gym battle with Skyla, the way that Swanna used Aqua Ring to counter Thunderbolt and Electro Ball had the same look as Fantina's Drifblim's Countershield and used it to block the attacks. Could that be a Counter Shield?--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 17:11, 10 September 2013 (UTC)</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=BW128&diff=1963744BW1282013-09-07T13:52:16Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Major events */</p>
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'''To Catch a Rotom!''' (Japanese: '''ロトムVSオーキド博士!''' ''Rotom VS {{tt|Dr. Okido|Professor Oak}}!'') is the 128th episode of the {{series|Best Wishes}}, and the 785th episode of the [[Pokémon anime]]. It first aired in Japan on May 30, 2013 and in the United States on August 31, 2013.<br />
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==Synopsis==<br />
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==Major events==<br />
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* {{an|Iris}} and {{an|Cilan}} meet {{an|Professor Oak}} in person for the first time.<br />
* Professor Oak catches a {{p|Rotom}}.<br />
* Ash, Iris, and Cilan decide to keep traveling the Decolore Islands by ship instead of going to Kanto with Professor Oak.<br />
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===Debuts===<br />
====Pokémon debuts====<br />
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==Characters==<br />
===Humans===<br />
[[File:Dare da BW128.png|200px|thumb|right|{{tt|Dare da?|Who's That Pokémon?}}]]<br />
* {{Ash}}<br />
* {{an|Iris}}<br />
* {{an|Cilan}}<br />
* [[Jessie]]<br />
* [[James]]<br />
* [[Nurse Joy]]<br />
* {{an|Professor Oak}}<br />
* [[Porter]]<br />
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===Pokémon===<br />
[[File:WTP BW128.png|thumb|right|200px|Who's That Pokémon?]]<br />
[[Who's That Pokémon?]]: {{p|Rotom}}<br />
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OP|Ash|Pikachu}})<br />
* {{p|Axew}} ({{OP|Iris|Axew}})<br />
* {{p|Meowth}} ({{TRM}})<br />
* {{p|Krookodile}} ({{OP|Ash|Krookodile}})<br />
* {{p|Excadrill}} ({{OP|Iris|Excadrill}})<br />
* {{p|Emolga}} ({{OP|Iris|Emolga}})<br />
* {{p|Stunfisk}} ({{OP|Cilan|Stunfisk}})<br />
* {{p|Audino}} ({{OP|Nurse Joy|Audino}})<br />
* {{p|Rotom}} (all forms; ×2)<br />
* {{p|Rotom}} ({{an|Professor Oak}}'s; new)<br />
* {{p|Purrloin}} (flashback)<br />
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==Trivia== <br />
* [[Professor Oak's lecture|Professor Oak's Pokémon Live Caster]]: {{p|Rotom}} (mid-episode) and {{p|Gigalith}} (end of the episode)<br />
** This is the first time that an episode features two different Live Casters.<br />
** This is also the first time that a Live Caster — in this case, Rotom's — has aired in the international version.<br />
* This episode marks the first time since the Orange Islands saga (from the {{series|original}}), that Japanese text can be seen.<br />
** This is also the first time since ''[[EP018|Beauty and the Beach]]'' that Japanese text is left as-is in the dub.<br />
* This episode marks the first time that someone mentions the existence of {{DL|List of Pokémon by gender ratio|genderless}} Pokémon in the anime.<br />
* Though not exactly a [[boss fantasy]], this is the first time in the {{series|Best Wishes}} that {{TRT}} fantasizes about the Pokémon they are planning to steal.<br />
* When Professor Oak initially fails to catch Rotom, he says, "Almost had it!" The same message also appears in the games if a Pokémon escapes from a [[Poké Ball]] after three shakes.<br />
* In this episode, for the first time since the {{series|Diamond & Pearl}}, Team Rocket uses a variation of their {{motto}}.<br />
* The beam emitters that Team Rocket use to capture Rotom are similar in design to the Proton Packs from ''{{wp|Ghostbusters}}''.<br />
* At the end of the Japanese version of the episode, the [[narrator]] impersonates Professor Oak. Both characters have [[Unshō Ishizuka|the same voice actor]].<br />
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===Errors===<br />
* In the U.S. broadcasting, [[It's Always You and Me#Version 2 (BW110 - BW122)|version two]] of [[It's Always You and Me]] (used from ''[[BW110|The Name's N!]]'' to ''[[BW122|What Lies Beyond Truth and Ideals!]]'') was used, instead of [[It's Always You and Me#Version 3 (BW123 - Present)|version three]] which began being used in ''[[BW123|Farewell, Unova! Setting Sail for New Adventures!]]''.<br />
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===Dub edits===<br />
* '''Professor Oak's Pokémon Live Caster''' is localized as '''Professor Oak's Who's That Pokémon'''.<br />
* Since the narrator and Professor Oak don't share their voice actor in the English dub, Professor Oak interrupts the narrator and recites the ''"...as the journey continues"'' line himself; unlike the Japanese version which has the narrator impersonating Oak.<br />
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==In other languages==<br />
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<div>Didn't Squirtle appear in the Samurai episode in a flashback? So shoudn't that be the debut episode?--'''''[[User:Jmath|Jmath]] 18:56, 22 October 2007 (UTC)'''''<br />
::I disagree, because it wasn't clear who owned the Squirtle there. The flashback pictures were only the pokémon, we didn't see the trainer's faces. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 20:57, 22 October 2007 (UTC)<br />
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That is true, but Samurai did say that he fought the trainers from Pallet Town, and didn't Ash asked he fought Gary? [[User:Mr.lol|Dean]]<br />
:Yes, and the Samurai didn't tell him what Pokémon Gary used. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 21:22, 22 October 2007 (UTC)<br />
::But we know now that it was Gary. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 21:32, 22 October 2007 (UTC)<br />
:::Not without watching the late Johto episode. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 22:36, 22 October 2007 (UTC)<br />
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:::Yes but now that we watched the late johto episode everything is clear so that should be the debut episode [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]] 10:47 , 18 July 2008<br />
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== Squirtle pic? ==<br />
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I know the Squirtle picture is bad, but it's the only one we have. Is there any way to make the quality better?--[[User:Totodilesentret|<font color="blue">Totodile</font><font color="brown">sentret!</font>]]<sup>[[User Talk:Totodilesentret|<font color="gold">Talk to me.</font>]]</sup> 16:37, 7 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Make a fresh screenshot from the DVD. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 16:44, 8 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Talent Showdown ==<br />
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Should Blastoise's appearance in [[Talent Showdown]] be noted here? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 01:04, 7 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Probably, maybe put it under Trivia? [[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 01:49, 7 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Certainty ==<br />
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Is it ABSOLUTELY certain that this is Gary's starter? Was it specifically stated anywhere? [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 20:27, 29 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
:In the episode ''[[269|The Ties that bind]]'' Professor Oak has a flashback stating that Blastoise was his starter and he remembers it when it was just a squirtle. I think that confirms it. [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 20:31, 29 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Games ==<br />
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Shouldn't Blastoise's game equivalents be included in this article? Gary's Eevee is. '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:#00693E">Toon Ganondorf</span> ]] [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:#D4AF37">(t</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:#D4AF37">c)</span>]]''' 14:07, 28 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
:It shouldn't have been there in the first place. Blue and Gary are not the same person and they shouldn't be treated as such. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 21:01, 28 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
:To make a better example of my edit summary I used in the revert, like putting {{ga|Red}}'s Pikachu, Snorlax, Charizard, and Lapras from HGSS into the articles of Ash's respective Pokémon. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 21:15, 28 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
== Brock's and Misty's Comments on seeing Blastoise ==<br />
I was looking at the trivia for this page and looking at Gary's page, and I noticed that Gary had gotten both the Boulder Badge as well as the Cascade Badge. Given the comments with Brock and Misty, could it be that they had Gary come in and battle them before travelling with Ash?--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 15:31, 5 September 2013 (UTC)</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Generation_V&diff=1961826Talk:Generation V2013-09-02T19:42:23Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Shortest Generation in English Speaking Territories? */</p>
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<div>==Any References?==<br />
With the impending release of [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver]] in America, can someone keep an eye out for any in-game references to Gen. V? Much appreciated. [[User:The Jigglypuff Ninja|The Jigglypuff Ninja]] 01:04, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I doubt there are any references to Gen V in HGSS. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 01:09, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::And I ''highly'' doubt that NoA would change the script to add such references in. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sup>❄</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sub>❅</sub></span>]]</span> 01:09, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Any references will probably be in the new Ranger game. Although the Lock Capsule is probably related to something in Generation V.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 01:11, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::It's a Gen IV event item. Likely gonna be for a Gen IV event. Think: what hasn't been released yet? Could be Celebi... '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#80964B">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C4E673">chidna</span>]]''' 03:04, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::At the risk of dragging this out too far (this is quickly becoming something that'd fit on the forums), hackers would have found a Celebi Event in the coding, but no one has. Add in that PokeBeach reports that it seems to have similar transfer data as the Manaphy Egg, and it seems like it's supposed to be transferred out of HGSS into a new game... but I digress. We have no proof either way.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 05:03, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::The question is... how would it be obtained in the first place? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#80964B">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C4E673">chidna</span>]]''' 07:40, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Jumping the Gun a bit?==<br />
Are you guys sure we aren't looking into this a bit too far? All we have for clues are that they announced a new game and a new *something*. Not to mention it says it's gonna be new on the DS. What's to be sure of all of that? For all we know, the new game could be MindCrystal, the silhouette could be a new Forme like the last 5 that were announced. The new game could be a wii sequel to Pokemon XD:Gale of Darkness. If we can't even have Pokemon evolved editing pages when they're in the titles of episodes, why can we just up and announce a new generation? I mean, Pokebeach even said the silhouette isn't Z, what makes anyone certain it's Generation V?[[User:SLE_aman|SLE_]][[User:SLE_aman/talk|aman]] 11:53, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:What does Pokebeach have to do with anything? We know this is Gen V because Masuda SAID it is a new Pokémon. Nothing in this article says that this Pokémon is Z. Because we don't know that. All we know is that it is a new Pokémon. To think otherwise... well, you're in denial big time. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 12:14, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::The original announcement talked about the popularity of Diamond and Pearl before saying this game will be set in a new region with new Pokémon. What more evidence do you need? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 12:36, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Well, technically, the RPG announcement never explicitly said it would be main series. Even though Generation V Pokémon were hinted, it was never explicitly said that it was the full-fledged generation. It also never explicitly said it would be a pair, either. There are RPGs other than the main series, and they could use a side-series RPG to give Generation V-based cameos to increase anticipation for the full-fledged generation to come at a later date (much like Mystery Dungeon 1 did). Recent announcements pretty much excludes the possibility of it being a Ranger 4, but it's still possible that it could be a Mystery Dungeon 5 or something completely different than anything we've seen before. My [[$1|2¢]]: Odds are the TBA 2010 thing is not for the full-fledged Generation V. Especially if the RPG announcement turns out to be for a single. They've faked us out before, and even if the silhouette does turn out legitimate, it's probably still too early to be thinking full-fledged Generation V. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:19, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::Actually, I've seen a subb'ed version. Masuda specifically said "We're working on a new generation of pokémon" --[[User:Camzoman]]<br />
::::Yeah. And nowhere in that did it explicitly say that was the TBA 2010 project. They can be working on a new generation of Pokémon, yet still announce and release side games relating mainly to the previous generation. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 19:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::Camzoman, where exactly did you see this subbed version? I did not hear Masuda mention a "new generation" anywhere in the video - what he said was "we're developing a brand-new work for Pokemon." However, I don't think there's any denying at this point that it is indeed the new generation. The [http://www.corocoro.tv/pokerelease/index.html Corocoro site] doesn't seem to be implying that this is a side game (not that Game Freak makes side games to begin with). It's a new version(s), with a new setting, new Pokemon, new features... sounds like a new generation to me. :/ <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sup>❄</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sub>❅</sub></span>]]</span> 19:54, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::Japanese doesn't have a plural so the "he only said one" argument doesn't hold. [[n:New Pokémon RPG announced|Just look at the information we have]]. It's obviously Generation V. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 12:12, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Anyway, the CoroCoro scans for Zoroark fit the silhouette from Pokémon Sunday.--[[User:Crazylegs24]]<br />
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== Why is this page protected? ==<br />
Why is this page protected? --[[User:?????|Any]] [[User talk:?????|Questions]][[User:?????|?????]] 18:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Think about it.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#003366">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#8C92AC">''Blue''</span>]]''' 18:37, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::<nowiki>*</nowiki>cough*Speculation*cough* [[User:CuboneKing|<font color="Red">Cu</font>]][[User talk:CuboneKing|<font color="Tan">bo</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|<font color="Green color light">ne</font>]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|<font color="Black">King</font>]] 18:41, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Because someone is 100% likely going to put what they think the new Pokémon is, probably saying it's Mightyena's evolution or something, if it isn't protected. That is speculation, something that isn't allowed here in the mainspace. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 22:21, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::It is not a good sign when a question like this needs to be asked.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We are the Void 22:43, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::That against us or against the users who'd make crappy speculative edits? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#80964B">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C4E673">chidna</span>]]''' 03:22, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::It's against users who don't realise why it should be protected...--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We lie in wait...... 14:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::::...same thing? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#80964B">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C4E673">chidna</span>]]''' 04:29, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Arguable.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We lie in wait...... 13:13, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Would it not be better to make this page "semi-protected" so that only established users can edit? There are plenty of established users who are not administrators, whom I'm sure would want to contribute to such a monumental article. [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 09:55, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:That wouldn't stop speculation from incurring. If you have any confirmed evidence, ask for it here.--[[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 10:12, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Generation V Pokémon Infobox, anyone? ==<br />
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I know you'll probably all find this pointless, but I decided to throw together a {{redlink|Template:PokémonInfoboxGenV|temporary infobox}} to use for the Generation V Pokémon articles. It's basically a stripped-down version of the regular infobox that leaves out all the fields for any technical stuff (Egg groups, EXP yield, Gender ratios, etc.) that's unlikely to be revealed until ''Pokémon V'' comes out later this year. I also created a [[User:Quagbert/Z (Pokémon)|user-subpage for the silhouetted mystery Pokémon]] that uses a {{redlink|Template:PokémonInfoboxGenVNoncat|non-categorizing version}} of this template. <br />
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''Thanks to {{u|PsychicRider}} for making me aware of the original non-categorizing Pokémon infobox.'' [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 00:49, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Masamitsu Hidaka==<br />
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Should [[Masamitsu Hidaka]] be mentioned since that interview kind of confirmed Generation V? --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 05:50, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Unlink ==<br />
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Can somebody please unlink "Generation V Pokémon"? It's a redlink right now. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 13:52, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== This just in! ==<br />
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Serebii.net just confirmed the first two Fifth Generation Pokémon! Go check it out! :) --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 14:21, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Serebii.net didn't. Leaked scans did. Also, the first one was already revealed. The second one was revealed to be before it in their evolutionary line. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:22, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I think yu're probably going to need to find this information from another source. It seems like the users here have some sort of vendetta against Serebii.--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 14:29, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::It is officially confirmed. It was from a different source. It was from scans. You can see bulbanews's draft. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::We don't have any vendetta against Serebii. He just isn't the source in this case - CoroCoro is. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 15:01, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Either way, it's confirmed right? I'd love to update the page, but it's locked. *ahem* <br />
''[[User:Chosen|<span style="color:#F85888">Chosen</span>]] <span style="color:#6890F0">of</span> [[User talk:Chosen|<span style="color:#F8D030">Mana</span>]]'' [[User:Chosen|-]] 15:15, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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[[File:CoroCoro March 1.jpg|thumb]]<br />
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Here's the picture! --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 15:19, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Alright, these two Pokémon have been offically confirmed by the leaked CoroCoro scans, but apparently it's still considered too early to put up the Bulbapedia articles for them. Is there some additional form of conformation that we're waiting for? <br />
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Anyway, I already have {{p|Zorua}} and {{p|Zoroark}} in my userspace ready to be moved to the main space when we're finally allowed to do so. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 17:07, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:It's probably due to lack of information. I assume that when its ability/abilities and/or base stats are revealed it will be moved. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 17:16, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::IIRC, none of that sort of information (especially base stats) was revealed for the Generation IV Pokémon until the actual release of Diamond/Pearl, or shortly before, though we still had mainspace articles for them anyway. This means it'd be months before we move Zorua/Zoroark into the mainspace. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 17:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Actually, according to serebii, they're supposed to be revealed next month. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 18:45, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Related Pokémon ==<br />
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On the page, it says that it has noteable links with the Riolu and Poochyena families. If it's definitely pure dark type then just ignore this, but couldn't it be an alternative to the Vulpix family? --[[User:Herachu|Herachu]] 22:07, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
: I agree. --[[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|i herd u liek Treakos?]] 00:10, 12 February 2010 (UTC) [[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|Kimori-]][[User talk:Kimori-Hinoarashi|Hinoarashi]]<br />
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== New Pokémon template ==<br />
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Based partly on the {{template|DP episode}} template, I've decided to make a [[Template:NewPokémon|new Pokémon template]] to use the next time a new Pokémon is revealed. The code would go like this:<br />
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{{subst:NewPokémon|main|Jp. Katakana name|Romanized Jp. name|<br />
typen= (number of types) |<br />
type1= (first type) |<br />
type2= (second type) |<br />
pron= (name's pronunciation) |<br />
jspecies= (species in Japanese) |<br />
species= (species, aka "____ Pokémon")<br />
image= (filename of image) |<br />
caption= (caption for said image) |<br />
height-m= (height in meters) |<br />
weight-kg= (weight in kilograms) |<br />
prev= (previous Pokémon's (i.e. pre-evolution) name, Arceus by default) |<br />
prevnum= (previous Pokémon's National Dex #, 493 by default) |<br />
next= (next Pokémon's (i.e. evolved form) name, Bulbasaur by default) |<br />
nextnum= (next Pokémon's National Dex #, 001 by default) |<br />
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Those who want to use this template for their own userspace should replace "main" in the top line with "user", so that those user sub-pages aren't categorized with the genuine Pokémon articles in the main space. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 01:04, 12 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Take away part in introduction ==<br />
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It says that it is unknown whether the new games will be contemporaneous with any of the other games. I beg to differ. Pokemon Sunday officially stated that Zoroark lives in a "New Area". Or is it just saying that it is unknown whether it will be possible to travel to another region? Spenfen<br />
:Contemporaneous means at the same time. Like how RBY and RSE are at the same time, and so is GSC and DPPt. It has nothing to do with location.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 18:08, 15 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Japanese Gen. 5 page ==<br />
I have a good link to a japanese page on the Generation 5 games here: [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/game/g100215_03.html].--[[User:Christopher Costello|Christopher Costello]] 01:14, 20 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:That's kinda where we got all of our information. Pokémon.co.jp and the Japanese Pokémon variety shows. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#80964B">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C4E673">chidna</span>]]''' 03:41, 22 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Interwiki link to Pokéteca ==<br />
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Now that there's an article about [[:es:Quinta Generación|Generation V on Pokéteca]], can someone add it the interwiki link to it, please? --[[User:Blaziken257|<span style="color:#F08030;">'''Blaz'''</span>]][[User talk:Blaziken257|<span style="color:#C03028;">'''iken'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Blaziken257|<span style="color:#302000;">'''257'''</span>]] 03:19, 24 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Two New Generation V Pokémon Scan !!! ==<br />
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Hey guys, I got this '''EPIC''' magazine scan featuring two new evolutions of Delibird and Farfetch'd from Generation V and it seems 100% real. {{unsigned|Adyniz}}<br />
:It's not. Notice how I protected the hell out of those names ''before Zoroark and Zorua were revealed''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#80964B">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C4E673">chidna</span>]]''' 07:08, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Does that mean this scan is a fake one? --<span style="color:#00FF00">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#6699FF;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#99CCFF;">'''Niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#00FF00">♪♫</span> 07:11, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::The screenshot is obviously fake if you couldn't tell. That should have given it away easily. So yes, it is fake. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange">Jel</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#90a8e0;">lo</span>]]</b> 07:29, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Lol, man I am dumb.<br />
::::'''Source''': http://www.pokemondarkay.net/{{unsigned|Adyniz}}<br />
:::::Looks pretty real. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 11:00, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::Well it may look real but I've seen things in my days done in Photoshop that looked very real. Can someone translate or is there even any legit source? I don't read Spanish nor Japanese. <b>[[User:.insomniac.|<font color="#FFC125">inso</font>]]<font color="#CC1100">m</font>[[User_talk:.insomniac.|<font color="#E0DFDB">niac</font></b>]] 11:05, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Since it's already been confirmed as fake, please take further discussion regarding the scan to the {{tt|forums|Not the Bulbapedia forum.}}. Thanks, - [[User:Kogoro|<span style="color:#DA70D6;">'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>'''</span>]] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|<span style="color:#FFB6C1;">'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>'''</span>]] - 11:08, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Nintendo 3DS]] ==<br />
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It's very likely that these new games will be on the 3DS, so can someone remove the statement saying that the games ''will'' be released on the regular DS?--'''[[User:Immewnity|<span style="color:#88AADD">''immewnity''</span>]][[User talk:Immewnity|<span style="color:#627DB7">the</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|<span style="color:#335577">mew</span>]]''' 00:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:[[Generation II]] ahoy. The press release said DS. Not 3DS. 3DS comes out NEXT YEAR. These come out THIS YEAR. Nintendo's not ''stupid''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:54, 3 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::It could be released before Christmas in Japan so there is the potential for the game to be on 3DS. But that's purely guesswork at the moment and it could still be a DS game even if the 3DS is implemented so we go with the only source on the matter - the original announcement which said it will be on the DS. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 11:27, 3 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Or, as in Generation II, the games could be programmed with 3DS enhancements, yet still be playable on the DS. Nonetheless, until something official states that they will utilize the 3DS, any mention of it is speculation at best. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 14:23, 3 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::Technically, TTEchidna, the page that announced the 3DS stated that it would be released sometime between now and next April, so that doesn't mean next year.<br />
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== Current Length ==<br />
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The days have weird numbers, can an administrator fix them? Thanks. [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 21:23, 9 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:They're automatically calculated by the template... &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 06:38, 10 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::But the games haven't been released yet. I think it's too early to say that Generation V has started. [[User:Fudgenuggets|Fudgenuggets]] 22:16, 10 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::It hasn't started yet. It starts in 0.8 days according to those numbers. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 03:22, 11 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::It's because it's calculated weirdly. Once we have a ''date'', we'll put that in, and it'll look right. Until then, DECIMALLLLLLLLLL '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:34, 22 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Uploaded player sprite ==<br />
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[[File:Hilbert OD.png]]<br />
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I got the player sprite and uploaded it to the archives... I guess if someone can find a place for it on the article, well, there it is!<br />
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Actually, now that I see them side-by-side, it looks like the front-facing sprite on the left is the male character while the right-facing sprite on the right is the female character. Any ideas? - [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] 02:01, 23 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:1) This is the article for Gen V in general, not just Black and White.<br />
:2) Do we have the overworld sprites from the past games anywhere? The characters themselves will get articles eventually but we will hopefully have Sugimori artwork released around the time that happens. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 23:09, 23 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::We do, but... mostly fronts. And those are animated. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:02, 24 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Well, I'm sure there's a home for those sprites... right? :) - [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] 06:58, 26 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== About the day count... ==<br />
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You should set it to zero, I'm not sure we'll have Pokémon B&W in -0.840277777778 days. --[[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]] 12:53, 30 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:But we all wish we did... [[User:Thermorules123|Thermorules123]] 11:32, 2 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::You mean you didn't get your game 0.840277777778 days ago? Never mind, I hacked the template to make it say better stuff. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 12:10, 2 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::As long as you didn't break the template on the other four generations. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:56, 4 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::I'm fairly certain I didn't. Fixed it through an optional extra parameter. Seeing as the parameter doesn't exist on the other four pages, nothing should have broken. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 05:19, 7 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Gen 4 compatability ==<br />
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Shouldn't it be noted that this has been confirmed? (The upcoming Flare Blitz Entei and co can do something in gen 5) {{unsigned|Deuxhero}}<br />
:makes sense, but since it's not officially confirmed, {{tt|we can't include it.|That's Bulbapedia's standard.}} [[User:ShinyPikachu|<span><font color="#E9AB17">Shiny</font></span>]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|<span><font color="#FFFC17">Pikachu</font></span>]] 12:44, 7 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::What do you mean, it hasn't been officially confirmed? It's been confirmed that the shiny legendary gerbils unlock something in BW, meaning that they are transferable to aforementioned games. Serebii.net reported on this last month. Oh wait, let me guess- Serebii.net isn't what you consider a reliable source despite only being wrong about stuff they explicitly said they weren't sure about in the first place. We also didn't add all the english names for all the HGSS stuff until it came out and proved him right. When are you guys gonna swallow your pride and admit that Serebii.net is probably the most reliable source of Pokémon information in the internet? <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 14:01, 7 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::''The most reliable source of Pokémon information in the internet?'', {{tt|Hahahaha, I don't think so|I don't want to go off-topic otherwise it will be long debate}}. Anyway, wait for an official announcement before doing/adding anything. <span style="color:#FF0">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#00FA9A;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#9F9;">'''Niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#FF0">♪♫</span> 14:16, 7 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::If I recall though it was indeed confirmed by an official source that the legendary beasts could unlock something in BW... apparently someone got their hands on the pamphlet that you get for pre-ordering the ticket and it states that the beasts unlock stuff in BW. Not sure if there's a scan of it anywhere though, I would refrain from putting it on the page if it's just his personal speculation again. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|<span style="color:#e072a9;">ティナ</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Tina|<span style="color:#728084;">♫</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|<span style="color:#728084;">★</span>]]</sup> 15:50, 7 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::If it is added, be sure not to assume HOW the games are compatible; it's possible they could unlock something through a method other than trading or transferring. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 14:22, 9 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::Just as a clarification, an official site has yet to specifically state "generation 4 can trade in some way with generation 5". The pamphlet in question can be seen in entirety [http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/image/tickets/print/guide.pdf here]. On page 3 there is a small section that talks about Pokemon Black/White and the last sentence of that section mentions that the 3 have a secret. This was taken to mean that the 3 unlock something in B/W obviously because it is mentioned inside the B/W section and therefore probably are able to be traded to Gen 5 in some way. Anyways, that was the logic behind "Gen 4 and 5 compatibility confirmed." Whether that is a good enough reason to be added on here or not, I don't know :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 16:39, 9 May 2010 (UTC))<br />
:::::::There's ''also'' that little issue of them being ON THE DS. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:54, 11 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
I get the concept of compatability with Gen4 but whats going to happen to the Pokedex when you get aGen5 Pokemon on a Gen4 game?([[User: Munchy Lax]] 20:33,3 June 2010 (EST)<br />
:Well you obviously won't be able to take anything that wasn't in Gen IV back to a gen IV game. If it's a direct trade then it'll be like the time capsule in generation II. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</sc> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 00:44, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Starters ==<br />
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Here's the image from Pokémon Sunday: [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 01:49, 9 May 2010 (UTC) [[File:PokéSun May09 10.png|thumb|right]]<br />
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I can guess that the Grass Type is a Bird of Parodise Pokemon, as in the plant 'Bird of Parodise,' and also they had already done Bird based starters for [[Torchic|Fire]] and [[Piplup|Water]], and not yet Grass. If this could be true when revealed, then it will certainly complete the Bird Starters just like the Lizard Starters of [[Treeko|Grass]],[[Charmander|Fire]] and [[Totodile|Water]]. <br />
The Fire Type could may as well be a piglet for it's curley tail, and the Water Type could be another Amphibian Pokemon like [[Mudkip]]. These are just guesses, but what do you think? [[User:Cynthia149]] 17:07, 9 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I think that you need to take your speculation to the forums. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|<sup style="color:#00008B;">'''Maverick'''</sup>]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|<sub style="color:#00008B;">'''Nate'''</sub>]]'' 16:35, 9 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Just for the heck of it, I have a [[User:Quagbert/No.494 (Pokémon)|draft article for the Grass starter]], which I created using the template I mentioned above. I also have startup code to create the Fire and Water starters' articles using this same template, if anyone's interested:<br />
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Fire Starter:<br />
{{subst:NewPokémon|main|日本語名|JP Name<br />
|species=<br />
|typen=1|type1=Fire<br />
|image=<br />
|art=<!--BW-->|caption=Scan from [[CoroCoro]]<br />
|height-m=<br />
|weight-kg=<br />
|prev=(grass starter)|next=water starter)}}<br />
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Water Starter:<br />
{{subst:NewPokémon|main|日本語名|JP Name<br />
|species=<br />
|typen=1|type1=Water<br />
|image=<br />
|art=<!--BW-->|caption=Scan from [[CoroCoro]]<br />
|height-m=<br />
|weight-kg=<br />
|prev=(fire starter)|next=Zorua}}<br />
</pre><br />
[[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 01:19, 10 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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For the curious, from left to right its the Grass-type, the Fire-type, and the Water-type. [http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/05/12/mystery_pokemon_detailed/ Here]. Still no names or pics other though. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 14:29, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:There's this great site called Bulbanews that has already reported that information - and with pictures, too! <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 16:54, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Excuuuuse me for not noticing. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 18:07, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== "Both are canine Pokémon," ==<br />
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By which the article presumably means ''vulpine''; canine refers to dogs but Zoroa and Zoroark are/will be fox Pokémon. [[User:Smithers888|Smithers888]] 04:10, 10 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Foxes are canine. Ish. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:09, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canidae - Canini and Vulpini are separate members of Canidae --[[User:Grinnz|Grinnz]] 18:59, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::: I had something but might as well just ask. Aren't dogs actually Lupine, if we're going Vulpine for foxes.--[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 19:05, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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isnt lupine for wolves Iirc ([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:27, 12 May 2010 (UTC))<br />
: Dogs are in the same family as wolves. Canis Lupus, the dog is only further distinguished by Canis Lupis familiaris. But even still Canine could refer to Canidae which is what Foxes/Dogs/wolves are in. The only difference is Foxes are further classified as "Vulpine" and if we follow suit, dogs/wolves would be Lupine not Canine. And it did say some foxes (while not true foxes) could still be under the Canis Genus if that's where the Canine name comes from. But again while Canine might refer to dogs specifically, isn't that more of a general consensus, rather than a scientific consensus? I'm going scientific here, if people want to be so correct with the whole Vulpine/Canine argument. -[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 19:36, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Who cares, really. That section'll be gone by the end of the year. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:56, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Older PCs ==<br />
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[http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/05/12/mystery_pokemon_detailed/ Apparently], artwork shown in Coro Coro comics indicates that the Player characters aren't kids like previous generations, but are a bit older and appear to be young adults. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 14:31, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== well heres the pics ==<br />
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I have a corocoro scan of the player characters.....<br />
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([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:17, 12 May 2010 (UTC))<br />
:The scan is from Pokebeach. I think we'd prefer it if it was your own scan. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange">Jel</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#90a8e0;">lo</span>]]</b> 18:25, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Well, the beach is our buddy, too. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:24, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== New Pokémon? ==<br />
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I found this online. It has the Pokémon Sunday picture in the corner. Does anybody know if this is the real deal or a scam?<br />
http://nd03.blog.cz/294/620/14fe8a949a_61909769_o2.jpg<br />
[[User:DarthMartian7|DarthMartian7]] 19:19, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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bleh...looks fake ([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:25, 12 May 2010 (UTC))<br />
:Old and fake. (btw: the text on the bottom says "the Pokemon that grasps the key to the Ruler of Illusions: Z!") <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 19:28, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Fail. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:54, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== New Pokémon (CoroCoro scan) ==<br />
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Came here to upload the scan, but apparently someone else did but didn't do anything with it. Here it is: <br />
This info should probably be put into the main article. [[User:Marluxia.Kyoshu|Marluxia.Kyoshu]] 20:36, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:It's been used on News. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 20:42, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== More info! ==<br />
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*Zorua has the Illusion ability.<br />
*Mijumaru is 0.5m tall and weighs 5.9kg. It also has the Torrent ability.<br />
*Tsutaaja is 0.6m tall and weighs 8.1kg. It also has the Overgrow ability.<br />
*Pokabu is 0.6m tall and weighs 9.9kg. It also has the Blaze ability.<br />
These should be added to the Pokémon articles--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Poké''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">lova!</span>]] 10:05, 13 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== On the use of unconfirmed information ==<br />
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<strike>We seem to have taken a whole bunch of unconfirmed information as fact here, and as it's generally not Bulbapedia policy to do so, it somewhat bothers me.<br />
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For the record, here is a list of information, much of which has been added to Bulbapedia, that I have not seen in the CoroCoro pages or any other official source (though if you have official sources with this that I have missed, please, by all means, link me):<br />
*The name "Tsutaaja," as well as all info on it beyond the fact that it is at least partly Grass-type<br />
*The name "Pokabu," as well as all info on it beyond the fact that it is at least partly Fire-type<br />
*The name "Mijumaru," as well as all info on it beyond the fact that it is at least partly Water-type<br />
*"Hiun City"<br />
*Zoroark's ability, "Illusion"<br />
*Those two new attacks whose names I can't be bothered to remember right now (Trickery and Claw Sharpen or something?)<br />
*The method by which to obtain Zoroark<br />
I have seen ''none'' of this come from official sources, only from fansites, blogs, and forums. (Hell, I could have sworn that I saw some of this in a 2ch speculation thread back in March.) The justification to their validity seems to be that the random anonymous person who posted this information on 2ch was right about other information before it was leaked, so he must be right now - but that reasoning hasn't been enough in past cases, has it?<br />
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I really wish we had kept the above-mentioned facts off of Bulbapedia until they were confirmed, but here they are. I personally think they should be removed (and the starters' pages moved into TTE's userspace or something) until they are confirmed, but a reasonable compromise, I think, would be to tag all articles that mention this information with an "unconfirmed" tag of some sort (I seem to remember a template for one, though I can't find it now...).<br />
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Any thoughts?</strike> <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 18:23, 13 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:They're all from CoroCoro. It's pretty undeniable. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 18:40, 13 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Scratch that, I found the CoroCoro scans that apparently no one cared to share which confirmed all of this. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 18:42, 13 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Starter Region ==<br />
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i would just like to say that, because of the set-up of the page, it looks like one or the regions in Gen. V is Starters. I would fix it myself, but I'm not an Admin. could an admin please change it show it looks like this<br />
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<nowiki><br />
==Regions==<br />
===Isshu===<br />
==Starters==</nowiki><br />
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instead of this<br />
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<nowiki><br />
==Regions==<br />
===Isshu===<br />
===Starters===</nowiki> thank-you [[User:ShinyPikachu|<span><font color="#E9AB17">Shiny</font></span>]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|<span><font color="#FFFC17">Pikachu</font></span>]] 19:54, 23 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:If you take a look at the table of contents, you'll see that "Starter Pokémon" is a lower heading than "Isshu", as it should be, to indicate that those are the Starter Pokémon of Isshu. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 20:51, 24 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::i guess that's true. the actual part of the article is what made me confused. But looking at the Table of Contents, it is set up correctly.[[User:ShinyPikachu|<span><font color="#E9AB17">Shiny</font></span>]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|<span><font color="#FFFC17">Pikachu</font></span>]] 23:42, 24 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Never too early to have the article set up like the rest. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:53, 29 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Legendary Pokémon==<br />
I saw two new Pokémon looks like the legendaries at the Pokémon english official site (names+artworks). Their names are Reshiram and Zekrom. I don't know if these informations are useful but... -[[User:Caciulacdlac|Caciulacdlac]]<br />
:Already a page on Bulbanews. Also, since it's breaking news, admins, may not have had time to add it in. [[User:ShinyPikachu|<span><font color="#E9AB17">Shiny</font></span>]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|<span><font color="#FFFC17">Pikachu</font></span>]] 18:03, 28 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:If anyone's interested, I have userspace draft articles for [[User:Quagbert/Reshiram|Reshiram]] and [[User:Quagbert/Zekrom|Zekrom]]. I just made them as draft articles since I'm not sure if it's appropriate yet to put them in the mainspace, but when it is, any admin is free to move them (or give me the OK to do so). [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 20:40, 28 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I may as well mention that {{user|Jello}} also has draft articles as well: [[User:Jello/Sandbox/Reshiram (Pokémon)|Reshiram]], [[User:Jello/Sandbox/Zekrom (Pokémon)|Zekrom]] [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 20:47, 28 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Hi, I'm new here, but I just wanted to add a little bit of information about the names, if it hasn't been done already. In Reshiram's name, the shiramu (シラム) comes from [http://dic.yahoo.co.jp/dsearch?enc=UTF-8&p=%E7%99%BD%E3%82%80&stype=0&dtype=0 shiramu (白む)] which means "turning white" or "growing light". In Zekrom's name, the kuromu (クロム) comes from [http://dic.yahoo.co.jp/dsearch?enc=UTF-8&p=%E9%BB%92%E3%82%80&stype=0&dtype=0 kuromu (黒む)] which means "turning black" or "tinged with darkness". They're used especially with regards to the sky, for example, "the sky grows light at dawn" or "the sky is tinged with darkness at night". Hope that helps a little. [[User:AmaranthSparrow|AmaranthSparrow]] 01:31, 29 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Oh, and just speculating, but the Re- and Ze- could come from rei (レイ) and zero (ゼロ), two pronunciations of rei (零), which obviously means "zero". [[User:AmaranthSparrow|AmaranthSparrow]] 01:43, 29 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::How come nobody's yet made the articles for Reshiram and Zekrom yet? And yet people who DO create articles at strange names to get around it, they just get deleted. Why not just move them to the proper names? <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 01:50, 29 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::We're not satisfied with them yet. And considering tomorrow's PSunday, we'll probably get more than enough data. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:51, 29 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::We need to put informations of the two legendaries fast, my friends are asking more things about them but I just have the basic. '''[[User:Blaze of Shadow|Blaze of Shadow]]<br />
:::::::We can't get more info yet Blaze, tell your friends to wait.--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Poké''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">lova!</span>]] 04:47, 31 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
we dont even know their secondary or primary types, we only know that they are part dragon type, so not even the most basic info we have, the article would be only a picture with nothing else.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 07:39, 31 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:That is all we knew about Zoroark when he was first revealed. Type and picture. Everything else was blank. [[User:Myzou|Myzou]] 08:46, 31 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::He was also the first Gen. V Pokémon revealed, which is why he was such a big deal. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 14:50, 31 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Five Known Pokemon? ==<br />
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The article says that five Generation V Pokemon are known, but with the announcement yesterday, seven are known. It even mentions Reshiram and Zekrom in the article. Can an admin make the edit?--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 03:52, 30 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:And the Zekrom page is exist. Please fix this too. -[[User:Caciulacdlac|Caciulacdlac]]<br />
::Yeah, perhaps semi-protection would be smarter here if the admins can't afford to be on top of this at all times. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 15:46, 1 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::The template uses the number of pages to find how many are new. After that, you have to purge the content by pressing the clock by your username to make it show seven. [[User:Turtwig A|<font color="#CD7F32">Turtwig's</font>]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|<font color="#FF7F00">A-B-Cs</font>]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|<font color="#green">talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|<font color="#yellow">contribs</font>]]) 15:49, 1 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::<s>I see. So the reason it reads five instead of seven is that there are no articles for Zekrom and Reshiram, and the reason there are no articles for them is because they are create-protected. The admins couldn't just create the pages and protect them? [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 15:59, 1 June 2010 (UTC</s><br />
:::::Didn't realize they'd been created. I've purged the content, but it still reads five. Maybe the categories haven't been added to the new legendaries' articles? [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 16:01, 1 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::It's likely because of your cache, maybe? The generation infobox reads new Pokemon as the amount of articles in [[:Category:Generation V Pokémon]], it doesn't need to be manually updated. We apologize for any inconvenience if we don't have new Pokemon articles up within the day they're revealed- we'd like to make sure that our articles aren't sloppily put together and include all the known info... which can be difficult at times and make us go "Hm, is one line of text and a mostly-unfilled infobox really worth an article?". Not the point, I know, but I'd just like to point that out. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|<span style="color:#e072a9;">ティナ</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Tina|<span style="color:#728084;">♫</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|<span style="color:#728084;">★</span>]]</sup> 17:12, 1 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
No, that's not it at all. I've taken a look at the source code, and it actually reads "Currently, five Generation V Pokémon are known." No template or anything. This needs to be changed. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 19:58, 1 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
:OH! You're talking about the infobox! We've been talking about the specific text in the article, under the "Currently known Pokémon" section. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 20:00, 1 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==The Order==<br />
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Someone have thinged what is the right order of Zoroa,Zoroark,Reshiram and Zekram? when the numbers be show we need to make the right order. [[User:Blaze of Shadow]] 23:30, 1 June 2010<br />
:Please make more sense.--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Poké''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">lova!</span>]] 05:02, 2 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
::We don't know what numbers they are because we don't know how high the regional dex is going to go. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 10:56, 2 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't think Blaze is talking about specific dex numbers, just general placement, i.e. we can assume that Zekrom and Reshiram will be near the end of the dex, but we can't confirm anything right now. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 14:33, 5 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==July 2010 New Pokémon==<br />
I just whipped a [[User:Quagbert/Chiraamii (Pokémon)|draft article for Chirāmī]] based on the scans that just leaked out. I only did Chirāmī since that's the only one we have a decent amount of clear info on. Perhaps in the future we may want to take any more new Gen V Pokémon discussion {{tt|over here|Category talk:Generation V Pokémon}} and leave this talk page for other Gen V stuff, though that just my suggestion. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 12:05, 11 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Hiragana vs. Kanji ==<br />
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"''Kanji are now used in game menus and text, in addition to the hiragana and katakana used in the previous four generations.''" >> Not saying that this statement is false but could someone point me to a known instance of the games where kanji is used more prominently? I know that it has been used for some things already since Gen I, like the prices in the Japanese versions using the kanji for yen, but this seems to refer to a greater use of the kanji throughout the dialogues... [[User:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:green">ポケモン</span></b>]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:blue">あいこうか</span></b>]] 17:45, 4 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:If I recall correctly, Colo/XD also uses kanji... I think PBR and Stadium ''miiight'', but I'm not sure. There's also kanji in the TCG GB games. I might be missing a few...<br />
:However, this is the first time that a main series handheld game has used kanji in dialogue- the only screenshot I can recall seeing it though was the intro with [http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/series/bw/#/characters/characters02.html Prof Araragi and Chirami]. It's assumed to be a toggle of sorts seeing as there's other dialogue screenshots with just kana. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|<span style="color:#e072a9;">ティナ</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Tina|<span style="color:#728084;">♫</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|<span style="color:#728084;">★</span>]]</sup> 17:55, 4 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I was referring specifically to BW, though, but thanks for the info you provided. xD Well, it does really seem to be an optional element, since I didn't notice kanji in any of the footage before, not even that one of Prof. Araragi and Chiramii... [[User:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:green">ポケモン</span></b>]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:blue">あいこうか</span></b>]] 18:26, 4 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Yes, according to the new Iwata Asks[http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/interview/irbj/vol1/index.html#list] there is going to be both a hiragana mode and a kanji mode. I suggest changing "''Kanji are now used in game menus and text, in addition to the hiragana and katakana used in the previous four generations.''" to something like "''Aside from the usual game menus and text in {{wp|hiragana}} and {{wp|katakana}}, there is now also the option of a {{wp|kanji}} mode. While hiragana and katakana made the Pokémon series accessible to elementary school kids, the optional texts mixed with kanji now also make the games easier to pick up for older teens and adults.''" As opposed to the present version, this makes clear that there is the '''option''' of kanji, and explains the effects of the new kanji mode to those unknown to the Japanese writing system. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 12:46, 11 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Named after colors ==<br />
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Trivia mentions that black and white are colors, technically they're not colors. I think it should be reworded to say that the titles were the first since Generation I (or II, since gold and silver can be colors) to not be named after a gemstone or a mineral. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 18:41, 4 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Technically, they '''are''' colors. Technically, they are not hues - they are shades. This terminology is used in most artistic endeavors, except lighting, where white and black are the presence or absence of light, but that's neither here nor there. These are colors. However, I agree that silver and gold are also colors, but I think it's pretty clear what was meant in the article. [[User:Jazzmoth|<b><span style="color:#0000cc">Jazz</span><span style="color:#ff3300">moth</span></b>]] 14:23, 5 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokemon currently known ==<br />
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By my latest tally, including the pokemon recently released, their are now about 20 with names and around 3 more that still remain unnamed, should anyone make an edit of this. {{unsigned|InferSizMamoMagne}}<br />
:There are fourteen named Pokémon; these are the ones that are counted. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 06:49, 5 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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i want to add koromori. but it wont let me [[User:ArceusLX|arceusLX leveled up!]] 19:46, 7 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:The page name has been protected because we know too little about the subject. You can quit spamming pages now, please. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 19:48, 7 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== The Picture ==<br />
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I'm just wondering if instead of the logos of Black and White getting put as the picture, I think that someone should just put the Japanese boxart pictures on.-- [[User:lilkaykaygal|<span style="color:pink">lilkaykaygal</span>]] 7:34, 5 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:The boxart is on the {{game|Black and White|s}} article. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 21:52, 6 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== advances in gameplay ==<br />
i need to add that you can play triple battles in pokemon black and white. [[User:ArceusLX|arceusLX leveled up!]] 19:37, 7 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Or someone else could add it when we know more about it. Why do ''you'' need to add it?--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Poké''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">lova!</span>]] 01:38, 8 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, nevermind, someone already put it in.--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Poké''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">lova!</span>]] 01:40, 8 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, and please fix the triple battles link - it points to ''Double_battle#Triple_battle'' as of now, while the correct would be ''Double_battle#Triple_battle'''s''''' --<span style="font-family:monospace;color: rgb(0,160,0); background-color: black">'''HTMLCODER.exe@bulbapedia$_ [[User:HTMLCODER.exe|/usr]][[Special:Contributions/HTMLCODER.exe|/bin]][[User_talk:HTMLCODER.exe|/apache2]] -k restart'''</span> 11:25, 16 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Starter Evos ==<br />
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I MIGHT have found the final evolutions of the starters, but they are probably fake.<br />
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Here they are: File:GenVStarterEvos.png<br />
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[[User:Mewtwo777|I am Darth Mewtwo... Fear me, and my team made entirely of Mewtwo!!!]] 17:14, 23 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:They're fake. (and the picture has been deleted on the Archives) <sc>[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</sc> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 03:18, 24 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== NGamer - 157? ==<br />
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In the most recent issue of NGamer magazine UK, they said there would be 157 new Pokémon in B/W. I don't know where they could have gotten that possible fact from, but it ought to be looked into, in the event that they are telling the truth. However, NGamer have been known to put rumors down as fact, and I would predict this is false. [[User:Torngentleman2|MAMOSWINEPwnz! (Torngentleman2)]] 18:37, 2 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
: It is a rumor that's been circulating for a while, but there hasn't been any actual evidence I'm yet aware of. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 18:59, 2 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==season==<br />
since seasons were confirmed to be in gen V could someone add that to this generations changes?[[User:Badwolf1234|Badwolf1234]] 20:53, 10 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Colours ==<br />
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Wow, this is totally random and pointless, but I wanted to point out that the thing about these being the first games named after colours since G1 is inaccurate. All the games have been based off of colours, however, those colours also tend to be other things (metals and gems, etc.). For example, silver is a colour, gold is a colour, ruby is bright red, as it's counterparts sapphire and emerald to blue and green respectively, and so forth. I just think that it's kinda pointless to put that information int he trivia when it's not exactly true. But feel free to debate with me, I'm open for people trying to change my mind. :D<br />
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[[User:Makuta Zero|Makuta Zero]] 06:21, 12 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Advances in Gameplay ==<br />
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I think that it should include that seasons will be in the games. --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 15:35, 22 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Monochrome generation? ==<br />
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its not monochrome monochrome is 1 color black and white is already 2 it should be called the shade generation since they already said third would be grey {{Unsigned|Ares5566}}<br />
:I'd like to inform you of a few things<br />
:1. Sign your comments. ALWAYS<br />
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:2. "Pokémon Gre(a)y" was never confirmed<br />
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:3. Monochrome doesn't mean 1 color. It means shades of 1 color. so Monochrome and Shade are the exact same thing. [[User:ShinyPikachu|<span><font color="#E9AB17">Shiny</font></span>]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|<span><font color="#FFFC17">Pikachu</font></span>]] 02:49, 23 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Just how Generation III was the Advanced Gen, why isnt this the Rebirth Gen? That is what is really is. They are having fresh new starts. Also, monochrome only applies to three games. Speculation shows that we have high chances of getting an Emerald remake (ranberth at youtbue has evidenece). In 2012, 10 anivesity; they like to remake at that time. Also, im reseaching that we might get more Gen I remakes due to 15th anivesrity. The biggest hint is that every region has included Kanto.Here is my guess...<br />
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::*2011-Black and White<br />
::*2012-Grey<br />
::*2012-Emerald remake<br />
::*2013-Gen I remakes<br />
::(they will more spaced out)<br />
::So, with that said, i want to vote on a name! --[[User:Shaymin Master426|Shaymin Master426]] 06:01, 19 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Monochrome is accurate for now. If there are Hoenn remakes, the name can be changed. It's called what fans have chosen, and for now it's monochrome. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#444444">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#C3C3C3">'''Monster'''</span>]] 06:17, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Needs Updated ==<br />
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This page is outdated. It needs to get updated with the latest info that has since been confirmed by last month's CoroCoro, and reconfirmed by both Pokemon Sunday & the official Site.<br />
[[User:Shinji-San|Shinji-San]] 01:06, 24 August 2010 (UTC)Shinji-San<br />
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== The fan name is wrong ==<br />
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The page says they call it the "monochrome generation".I am an Art Major at Lord Fairfax Community College,and that name makes no sense.Monochrome "only 1 color".There are 2 versions,and also black and white are not colors.They are refered to as neutrals in art(which is the only side that has an argument in color).Also,black is the abscense of color,and white is the combination of all percieved color.That name is completely inaccurate,and should be removed from the article because it does not really relate. {{unsigned|Slyver333}}<br />
:According to Wikipedia's article on {{wp|Monochrome}}, "For an image, the term monochrome is usually taken to mean the same as black-and-white or, more likely, grayscale..." Therefore monochrome is not incorrect here. Also, if it's here, it probably means it was used on some Japanese fansite--just because it's not "right" in art, doesn't mean it can't be used as a fan term. --[[User:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:red">Phantom</span>]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:black">Junkie</span>]] 02:24, 28 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Plus, black and white ARE colors - they aren't hues, but they are colors. In art terms, they are technically called shades and tints, respectively. Black is a shade of any color, and white is a tint of any color. As long as you're not talking about light, that makes them both colors. (When discussing colors of light, it is acceptable to refer to white as a combination of all frequencies, and black as the absence of all frequencies, but we're not in optics.) I don't know what you're art teachers are telling you, Slyver, but I'd double check your facts before trying to correct people. Different schools of thought use different terminology, and although I've never heard of the terms you use, I know the ones I learned are widely accepted. Long story short, monochrome is an acceptable term for this generation. (Monochrome can also refer to any range of shades, tints, and tones that have a single hue as their base.) <span style="border: 1px dotted #D04634;">[[User:Jazzmoth|<span style="color:#0F5437">ʝɑzz</span><span style="color:#3E0F54">motɦ</span>]] [[User talk:Jazzmoth|<span style="color:#004AC8;"><sub>❝❞</sub>]][[Special:Contributions/Jazzmoth|✎</span>]]</span> 21:38, 4 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Number of new pokes. ==<br />
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One of the new commericals claimed over 100 new pokes ([http://pokebeach.com/2010/08/black-white-wii-commercials-reveal-many-new-scenes Pokebeach says so anyways]) would be introduced. Should we change the "Pokémon" field in the template to reflect that? Also the info on communications with gen 4 is outdated. --[[User:Deuxhero|Deuxhero]] 01:06, 3 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Anthing for Trivia? ==<br />
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1.I think that with the information we have so far, we should be able to come up with some stuff for the section, at least for when it becomes editable to regular users. I noticed that this is the first Generation to not have a game where you (presumably) can't go to the Kanto region (as in Generation III, there are the Gen. I remakes, Generation IV has HeartGold and SoulSilver, where you can visit Kanto after beating the Elite Four). <br />
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2. I was wondering if anyone thinks they may make a Ruby/Sapphire remake, because Gen. III wasn't that much less advanced in terms of graphics and mechanics, so making a remake would be somewhat pointless, as you could just as easily buy the original, and considering they would have to put a lot of work into making a game that would be more or less the same in most ways(you can tell the added material in LG/FR and HG/SS is obviously needed or at least very different). <br />
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3. The new Japanese commercials for Black & White reveal another new team (as expected) and what looks like some sort of conversation thing where you get an up close look who you're talking to. Any comments?<br />
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Please respond if you would like. --[[User:BeeBwakka|BeeBwakka]] 23:43, 4 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
:# Trivia sections aren't things that need to be filled. No-one should ever be goining around looking at a page and trying to add trivia just because the trivia section is short.<br />
:# Talk pages aren't for general discussion. RS remake talk should be taken to {{bmgf|56930|this thread on the forums}}.<br />
:# Can you get pictures of the commercials? It would help for confirming details. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</sc> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 00:16, 5 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::It's far too early to say that anything won't happen in the next four years. Yes, the chances of revisiting Kanto are less likely this time around but anything could happen in the games after BW, especially with the 3DS (which any RS remakes would be on). --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 01:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Oh, sorry, I just joined so I'm new to this stuff. --[[User:BeeBwakka|BeeBwakka]] 12:29, 6 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Trivia? ==<br />
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Akinator ([http://www.akinator.com here]), is a website where Akinator (the character) tries to guess any character you're thinking of (by yes-no-maybe questions). It (the site) may be a little too small to be notable (though mijumaru alone has already been tried over 140 times) but it *already* has a question "Is your character from the fifth generation of Pokemon". [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 20:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I don't think it would be trivia, unless it was a big site. If it should be, it should be noted that they misspelled Pokémon. [[User:Turtwig A|<font color="#CD7F32">Turtwig's</font>]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|<font color="#FF7F00">A-B-Cs</font>]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|<font color="#green">talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|<font color="#yellow">contribs</font>]]) 20:37, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Oh god, not that thing...damn genie.. I don't think it would be trivia either...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 20:42, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Generation Length ==<br />
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Does anyone mind correcting the generation length? It says "-5 days". --[[User:MCRMY119|-DH]] 21:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Five days until, at that time. Now it says -1, because it's released on Saturday, also known as, you know... tomorrow. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:33, 17 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== All Pokemon Revealed. ==<br />
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http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon.shtml[[User:Umitencho|Umitencho]] 19:17, 16 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Serebii's not an official source. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 19:24, 16 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Gen V framerate ==<br />
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Shall we mention it? (For anyone curious: 30 overworld, 60 battles, title screen, 2D menus, 15 opening) [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 15:18, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Do you want a title screen pic like all the generations before it? ==<br />
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Just asking. If needed, I'll produce these. [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 13:31, 26 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Yeeeahh. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 09:52, 27 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Feel free to pick the one which's better. (http://s1096.photobucket.com/albums/g329/Jarooda/Bulbapedia%20stuff/) (That's my Photobucket!) [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 12:10, 28 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Oh, you're Jarooda? Did not know. Um, the first and the fourth are good. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 12:14, 28 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::What should I name them in Bulbagarden Archives? [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 12:35, 28 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::The second and the third actually have smoother edges, but this your call, Trom. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 12:38, 28 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::Did it. What do you guys think? [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 01:50, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::I guess they do, but I liked the dragons' poses better in the first and fourth :/ &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 10:21, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Useful source? ==<br />
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I accidentally came across this website which appears to reveal the trademarked romanji of the 646 'official' Pokémon as of now, as well as some insight on to their name origins. Is this official? --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 09:36, 8 November 2010 (UTC) [http://park3.wakwak.com/~pokepale/zukan/no/1_1_25.htm]<br />
:It's a fan site I think, like it says on the main page "This site is Japanese Pokemon Fan Site.". [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 09:41, 8 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 09:44, 8 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Why some classics arent in the regionnal dex ==<br />
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some classics (magicarp, pikachu, geodude, abra, etc.) dont appear in isshu. why?<br />
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I think thats because they are far away from kanto/jotho/hoenn/sinnoh. maybe the pokemons of gen5 will be the standards for 3 other gens. {{unsigned|Grhaal0}}<br />
:Game Freak has already stated that the reason old Pokémon aren't included is to give all players a fresh, new experience when playing the games. Your suggestion is speculation, which is rarely allowed and certainly doesn't take precedence over [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Wordofgod word of god]. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 15:28, 8 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
::That brings up the question of "Why did they include old Pokemon at all". Surely a new game, set supposedly in a place half the globe away from previous games wouldn't have all these old Pokemon found in it.--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 16:22, 9 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::I've already explained to you Mackinz, the real world has some species which live in far away places (see rats, mosquitoes, etc.). I don't mean to offend, but if you're trying to bring up another debate over Isshu's basis/motif, this isn't the place. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 21:27, 9 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Not trying to start a debate. Just can't figure out for the life of me why Paras would be in New York. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 20:12, 10 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::Guys this disscussion needs to go to the forums. Stop cluttering the talk page. Please and Thank you [[User:Pokemaster97|Pokemaster97]] 20:16, 10 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
== New Catchable Pokémon from Old Generations==<br />
You know, a lot of Pokémon in these games, although from previous generations, is the first time they are catchable in the wild (without hacks, of course), like Metagross, Kingdra, Mamoswine, Crobat, etc. Is that worth noting? [[User:TFSpock|TFSpock]] 00:47, 4 December 2010 (UTC)TFSpock<br />
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== Wrong Pokémon Count ==<br />
I find this page is within the category page of Generation V Pokémon. I post here, though, since this affects the number of new Pokémon in the summary of Generation V (the one that has the screenshot, main games, region introduced, etc).<br />
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:SLE_aman/fanhax<br />
- [[User:Chaotic iak|Chaotic iak]] 05:26, 7 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:That page was using templates which categorise. I've replaced them with ones that don't categorise or replaced them with the relevant hardcode and removed the categories. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 05:49, 7 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Live Caster ==<br />
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Can anyone explain what it is? It's not in the article. --[[User:BeeBwakka|<span style="color:#52D017">Bee § Bwakka♂</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:BeeBwakka|<span style="color:#157DEC">meh talk</span>]])''</small> 02:24, 8 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Bulbapedia has [[Live Caster|a separate article for it]]. The basic information about it can be found there. --[[User:RiverAura|<font color="#00CCFF">River</font>]][[User_Talk:RiverAura|<font color="#00FFCC">Aura</font>]] 20:36, 15 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Alterations from Generation IV==<br />
Shouldn't the removal of Curse be moved from the "Trivia" section to the "Alterations from Gen IV" section? [[User:U2kheim|U2kheim]] 20:12, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Wait a sec, what? Did you mean, the ???-type? Also, is it neccessary? --[[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 13:33, 15 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Yes because it is an official elemental type. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 17:11, 15 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Thematic Motif? ==<br />
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When will the thematic motif for this generation be written? --[[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><font color="red">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><small><font color="yellow">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]]''' 22:18, 16 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Because, I'm assuming they're added after the release of the next generation. --[[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><font color="red">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><small><font color="yellow">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]]''' 01:33, 19 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
::They were all added by one user quite recently. It's a new thing; no one's written the Gen V one yet. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 07:04, 19 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Timescale between generations ==<br />
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i know there isn't an official timescale between BW and HGSS/DPPt (as HGSS/DPPt is 3 years ahead of FRLG and Ruby/Sapphire) but the page states that there must be a significant difference because the Rocket grunt who was seen in HGSS now has a son, however, Cynthia (DPPt) and Looker (Pt) are NPC's in Black and White too and don't appear to have aged much or at all (in comparison to Misty between FRLG and HGSS), so could it be possible that the grunt already had a son who grew up to be a Schoolboy trainer in a timespace of less than 3 years or slightly more? couldn't this mean that the time between HGSS and BW could be shorter than implied on the page? [[User:Azure42|Azure42]] 15:32, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Cynthia and Looker are much older, so they age much less. The older Gym leaders from FRLG didn't change that much in HGSS. Misty was going through puberty, so her aging would be much clearer. Regardless, I believe that that Rocket Grunt said that he met his wife soon after returning home, meaning that his son was not born in HGSS. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 01:39, 19 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
::It's highly likely to be 11 years - GSC was three years after RGB, RGB were released in 1996, with GS exactly three years later. BW were released 11 years after GS, and since RS happens at the same time as RGB and DP happens at the same time as GS, for the remakes' sake. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:04, 1 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Yes but Caitin is already young in Platinum-HGSS. Maybe she is in her 20s or her early 30s. Yet, in Black and White she still appears to be young (maybe in her late 30s). So an eleven year gap seems to be too big. {{unsigned|Didich}}<br />
::::People can't have a very similar appearance for years. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 17:37, 4 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::You'd be surprised how little some people change over the years. My brother, for instance, has hardly changed in appearance in nearly 15 years. And let's not forget our famous [[Ash Ketchum|in-universe]] example. <br />
:::::In regards to Caitlin, she honestly looks a lot younger than 20 in PtHGSS. Her exact age, however, is debatable. --'''[[User:Darkeiya|<span style="color:#FF6600">Darkeiya</span>]]''' <small>''[[User talk:Darkeiya|<span style="color:#00CCFF">talk to me!</span>]]''</small> 10:40, 14 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::Mind if I join in the conversation? You said that the Team Rocket grunt met his wife/already having the child during the time of GSC/HGSS/DPPt. A school child would be at least 4 years old, no? So let's say 4 - 5 years? By the way, where is this Rocket Grunt? [[User:Chocos0|Chocos0]] 19:39, 23 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::::Before you join in a conversation, it can be worth it to check the timestamp. The last comment was in January. Secondly, I think this discussion is pointless, anyway: we're not going to get at a definite answer by guessing at people's ages. And thirdly, he's in Icirrus City. You can only get to his house in the winter, however. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 20:09, 23 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Sorry, I didn't know there was a rule, or not encouraged, to continue an out of date conversation. But okay then. [[User:Chocos0|Chocos0]] 04:40, 24 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Kanto ==<br />
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why's it say this is the only Generation not to include Kanto? wouldn't something like that be better saved for after this Generation is over?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 23:33, 27 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Currently it is true. If this changes in the future, so will the trivia. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 07:38, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
::alright--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 07:52, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Running Shoes (Changes from Generation IV) ==<br />
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is it worth putting that the running shoes have returned to just pressing B in contrast to in HGSS when it could be automatically be put on using the button on the touch screen? or is it just useless trivia? [[User:Azure42|Azure42]] 17:27, 2 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Debut ==<br />
I noticed on the "Debut" part of the page it says "March 6 2011" - the U.S. release date. As it's under the "En" tag (obviously for "English") and the European release is 4th March 2011, should that be changed to reflect the EU release date? Although the majority of the fandom are American, it is the English premiere, or a third option be added? {{unsigned|Ryu Shoji}}<br />
:It should really be first English, not first US. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 15:08, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::We use US dates for everything else, I don't see why this should be any different even if it is two days before. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 16:17, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Maybe we should add {{tt|*|March 6 in US}}?----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#BF0B17">DENNOU</font>]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#1250A6">ZENSHI</font>]] 16:25, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::The thing says English, so we should use the first English date. The only reason US dates are used for everything else is because they are usually first ([[The Legend of Thunder!|but not always]]). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 01:23, 11 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::The European date is when the English-speaking world begins Generation V. If the date has not been changed already, I will update it (this is the date we're counting down to on the Main Page/when all the info will be out, after all). &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 03:14, 13 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Catching Pokemon at a certain time of day ==<br />
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Can someone confirm if this has been removed? As it would certainly seem to be. <small><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:blue; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span></small> 15:01, 31 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Yes; time of day-based encounter rate differences don't appear in the game data.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#BF0B17">DENNOU</font>]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#1250A6">ZENSHI</font>]] 15:07, 31 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== New standards ==<br />
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I find some odd matches for gen I-V. Timburr, Dangoro and Woobat share traits with machop, geodude and zubat. <br />
What if Gen V acts Like a new Gen I, that will provide Gen VI and up with reccuring pokemons (Magicarp, Geodude, Abra, Machop and Pikachu (and probably others) appears in all Generations I to IV) that will be "standards" for the next games?<br />
Gen III seemed like a reboot for fans, maybe they tried then, and now they made it here.Maybe... [[User:Grhaal|Grhaal]] 01:49, 12 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Some fans have speculated that. We'll see what the future will be like. It'll be interesting. --[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 19:40, 12 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Trivia-new system ==<br />
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This is the second time (not the first) that a new generation of pokemon didnt start on a new system, while gold and silver had exclusive features when played on the GBC (playing in color), they were still playable on GB and GB pocket (cyrstal was the first game that required the GBC). Just as this duo of games can be played on DS, but when played on DSi or 3DS, these games also have exclusive features (the Xtransceiver only works on DSi and 3DS, but NOT on original DS/DS lite systems)<br />
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To say its the first time not to move to the next console at launch is misleading and untrue.<br />
:[[File:Silver EN boxart.jpg|thumb|300px]]<br />
:Box clearly says ''Game Boy Colour''. The games just happen to be backwards compatible. <small><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:blue; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span></small> 01:30, 17 February 2011 (UTC0)<br />
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the game cart is clearly a GB cart (notice the thumb grip goes in and says "Nintedo GameBoy" not out like a GBC cart) [http://gamesdbase.com/Media/SYSTEM/Nintendo_Game_Boy_Color/Cart/big/Pokemon-_Gold_Version_-_2000_-_Nintendo.jpg example of GB cart]<br />
[http://lh3.ggpht.com/_fLtECJziqZI/SkqTt2PlFOI/AAAAAAAABmE/Ciwhrs2IL8E/HPIM1556.JPG example of GBC cart]<br />
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== Young trainer ==<br />
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Its obvious that "young trainer" is the player from D/P/Pt.--[[User:Grhaal|Grhaal]] 12:28, 25 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Non-Event Trivia ==<br />
Is it worth noting the Generation V introduced the same number of non-event Pokémon as Generation I (150)? --[[User:Jimmyduckegg|Jimmyduckegg]] 18:01, 4 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I don't think so. Victini is counted as an event Pokémon. With the unofficial Keldeo, Meloetta, and Genesect, that makes 156 - 4 = 152 non-event Pokémon. I have a ready list of all Generation V Pokémon for reference, and that indeed appears to be the case... [[User:Haxorus|Haxorus]] 14:22, 17 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
::I think JDE was considering Zorua and Zoroark event Pokémon. Would it be correct to consider them that? After all, the only ways to get those two are through an event, or from someone else who has through trading or GTS. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 22:50, 17 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Lock ==<br />
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I believe this page should be locked due to this[http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Dengeki_DS_announces_new_Pok%C3%A9mon_game]. Anyone agree?[[User:ShinyPikachu|<span><font color="#E9AB17">Shiny</font></span>]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|<span><font color="#FFFC17">Pikachu</font></span>]] 17:38, 23 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I think we should wait until people actually start doing editing the page. [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 17:54, 23 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Han is correct. If something goes wrong, then it will be protected, but for now, there is no reason to worry. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange;">Jello</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b> 17:57, 23 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Okay thanks Han and Jello. I wasn't sure, though. When something "Big" like this is 'revealed', a lot of people overreact. [[User:ShinyPikachu|<span><font color="#E9AB17">Shiny</font></span>]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|<span><font color="#FFFC17">Pikachu</font></span>]] 18:04, 23 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Gym Leaders?==<br />
Is it accurate to say this is the first generation for which there is more than one Gym Leader per town within the same game? (Or something less awkwardly phrased.) I noticed it wasn't in the section so.... Am I forgetting someone? [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 22:15, 17 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Tate and Liza from Hoenn. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 22:26, 17 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
::They fight as a unit, though. It's still the first time you could fight one of two or three Gym Leader units depending on your game or your starter. I'm not sure what the best way to phrase it would be. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 14:17, 20 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::[[Sootopolis Gym]]. Leader depends on version. You could also argue [[Fuchsia Gym]] and [[Viridian Gym]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 14:32, 20 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::Given, the user who started this chain mentioned more than one leader within the ''same'' game; Tate and Liza were the first of this kind, I do believe. Cilan, Chili and Cress (discounting Iris and Drayden, because, as I've stated, the parameters for this are ''within the same game'') are not trailblazers. [[User:Sadistic Blaziken|<font color="Purple">Puppy</font>]] of [[User talk:Sadistic Blaziken|<font color="Red">Doom</font>]] and [[Poochyena (Pokémon)|<font color="Blue">Destruction</font>]] 14:40, 20 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::I'm the same user, I don't know why I brought up the version thing the second time. I was mostly wondering about Cilan, Chili, and Cress, but I didn't think about Tate and Liza. Thank you! [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 14:45, 20 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== All Pure Types ==<br />
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Someone can add that trivia:<br />
Generation V is the only generation that introduce all pure types with at least one pokémon<br />
Sorry for my bad english! {{unsigned|Shocker}}<br />
:Sorry, but there is a current ban on trivia at the moment so it can not be added. Also please sign all comments with 4 <nowiki>~~~~~</nowiki>. Thank you! [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 21:15, 12 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Eevee Evolutions and the Safari Zone ==<br />
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There are not new forms of either of these. Should that be included on the page? {{unsigned|PowerPlantRaichu}}<br />
:Added [[User:AquaMaster|AquaMaster]] 15:20, 2 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== gym leaders from previous generations ==<br />
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due to the fact that most, if not all the gym leaders and champions will be appearing in black 2 and white 2, should we add gen 5 to all their lists of generations --[[User:Themudkipman|Themudkipman]] 18:38, 14 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
:I think it is best to wait until we see confirmation of the individual before putting it in their article. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:31, 16 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
:: well yes, but all the kanto gym leaders and S.Stone are confirmed, should we change them? --[[User:Themudkipman|Themudkipman]] 16:49, 17 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::Yes. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 15:27, 19 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Challenge, Normal and Assist Mode ==<br />
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I don't particularly know what they are; whether you can select which mode you can play at the beginning or whatnot, but a alterable difficulty level is something that is new to Pokemon entirely, shouldn't it be in 'Advances in Gameplay'? [[User:Azure42|Azure/ChromeVoid42]] ([[User talk:Azure42|talk]]) 18:24, 15 July 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Going by what previous generations had, a "Further Advancements Made in Black 2 & White 2" (or something like that) section should be added to the Generation V page and have Challenge & Assist Mode, possibly among other things. [[User:Torpoleon|Torpoleon]] ([[User talk:Torpoleon|talk]]) 20:59, 15 July 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokéstar Studios and World tournament as an advancement? ==<br />
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Really? How is that an advancement in Pokémon? I'd say its an region exclusive thing. The World tournament maybe...I don't think that the Pokéstar studios should be included as an advancement. Does anyone else agree with me? - [[User:Clubchloe1|<span style="color:#00A000;">'''Club'''</span>]][[User talk:Clubchloe1|<span style="color:#0000A0;">'''chloe1'''</span>]] 19:42, 11 October 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Ruby and Sapphire remakes? ==<br />
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In the last paragraph of the intro, it mentions the fabled remakes. Nothing is on Bulbanews or the Twitter feed. What is this? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 11:26, 23 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Never mind. It was just put on a year late. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 11:28, 23 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, it's old news. Old speculatory news based on him saying he liked the third Generation games. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 11:31, 23 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
== Shortest Generation in English Speaking Territories? ==<br />
In the article, it says that Generation V was the shortest generation in Englist speaking Territories, when that is not true.<br />
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Gen 1-746 Days<br />
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Gen 2-885 Days<br />
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Gen 3-1495 Days<br />
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Gen 4-1412 Days<br />
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Gen 5-953 Days at end.<br />
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If anything, Gen 2 is shortest. Can I fix that?--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 16:07, 2 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I blame [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Generation_V&diff=prev&oldid=1956813 HeroicJay's edit summary], which confused me when I tried to correct him. I believe it is now correct as far as the time lengths in each generation's infobox are concerned. I'm still confused as to how Generation V (three years and ~24 days) can be shorter than Generation II (three years exactly) in Japan, but the infoboxes are automated so I'm just going to shrug and let someone else figure it out. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:51, 2 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
::I did some more math and figured out what's wrong. This page's infobox gives the current length (i.e. up to the day you're reading it), even though we have an end date in the infobox and it would make much more sense for it to give the actual length from start to end dates. So while this page's infobox currently says it's 1080 days long in Japan (and would thus be shorter than the 1096-day Gen 2), Generation V will actually last 1120 days by the time we get around to October 12. Figuring that out was quite an ordeal. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:06, 2 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
I was referring to the English days (not the Japanese) Those days listed in my above mentioning are English Only Days.--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 19:42, 2 September 2013 (UTC)</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Generation_V&diff=1961753Talk:Generation V2013-09-02T16:08:33Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Shortest Generation in English Speaking Territories? */</p>
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<div>==Any References?==<br />
With the impending release of [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver]] in America, can someone keep an eye out for any in-game references to Gen. V? Much appreciated. [[User:The Jigglypuff Ninja|The Jigglypuff Ninja]] 01:04, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I doubt there are any references to Gen V in HGSS. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 01:09, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::And I ''highly'' doubt that NoA would change the script to add such references in. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sup>❄</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sub>❅</sub></span>]]</span> 01:09, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Any references will probably be in the new Ranger game. Although the Lock Capsule is probably related to something in Generation V.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 01:11, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::It's a Gen IV event item. Likely gonna be for a Gen IV event. Think: what hasn't been released yet? Could be Celebi... '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#80964B">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C4E673">chidna</span>]]''' 03:04, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::At the risk of dragging this out too far (this is quickly becoming something that'd fit on the forums), hackers would have found a Celebi Event in the coding, but no one has. Add in that PokeBeach reports that it seems to have similar transfer data as the Manaphy Egg, and it seems like it's supposed to be transferred out of HGSS into a new game... but I digress. We have no proof either way.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 05:03, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::The question is... how would it be obtained in the first place? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#80964B">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C4E673">chidna</span>]]''' 07:40, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Jumping the Gun a bit?==<br />
Are you guys sure we aren't looking into this a bit too far? All we have for clues are that they announced a new game and a new *something*. Not to mention it says it's gonna be new on the DS. What's to be sure of all of that? For all we know, the new game could be MindCrystal, the silhouette could be a new Forme like the last 5 that were announced. The new game could be a wii sequel to Pokemon XD:Gale of Darkness. If we can't even have Pokemon evolved editing pages when they're in the titles of episodes, why can we just up and announce a new generation? I mean, Pokebeach even said the silhouette isn't Z, what makes anyone certain it's Generation V?[[User:SLE_aman|SLE_]][[User:SLE_aman/talk|aman]] 11:53, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:What does Pokebeach have to do with anything? We know this is Gen V because Masuda SAID it is a new Pokémon. Nothing in this article says that this Pokémon is Z. Because we don't know that. All we know is that it is a new Pokémon. To think otherwise... well, you're in denial big time. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 12:14, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::The original announcement talked about the popularity of Diamond and Pearl before saying this game will be set in a new region with new Pokémon. What more evidence do you need? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 12:36, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Well, technically, the RPG announcement never explicitly said it would be main series. Even though Generation V Pokémon were hinted, it was never explicitly said that it was the full-fledged generation. It also never explicitly said it would be a pair, either. There are RPGs other than the main series, and they could use a side-series RPG to give Generation V-based cameos to increase anticipation for the full-fledged generation to come at a later date (much like Mystery Dungeon 1 did). Recent announcements pretty much excludes the possibility of it being a Ranger 4, but it's still possible that it could be a Mystery Dungeon 5 or something completely different than anything we've seen before. My [[$1|2¢]]: Odds are the TBA 2010 thing is not for the full-fledged Generation V. Especially if the RPG announcement turns out to be for a single. They've faked us out before, and even if the silhouette does turn out legitimate, it's probably still too early to be thinking full-fledged Generation V. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:19, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::Actually, I've seen a subb'ed version. Masuda specifically said "We're working on a new generation of pokémon" --[[User:Camzoman]]<br />
::::Yeah. And nowhere in that did it explicitly say that was the TBA 2010 project. They can be working on a new generation of Pokémon, yet still announce and release side games relating mainly to the previous generation. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 19:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::Camzoman, where exactly did you see this subbed version? I did not hear Masuda mention a "new generation" anywhere in the video - what he said was "we're developing a brand-new work for Pokemon." However, I don't think there's any denying at this point that it is indeed the new generation. The [http://www.corocoro.tv/pokerelease/index.html Corocoro site] doesn't seem to be implying that this is a side game (not that Game Freak makes side games to begin with). It's a new version(s), with a new setting, new Pokemon, new features... sounds like a new generation to me. :/ <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sup>❄</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sub>❅</sub></span>]]</span> 19:54, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::Japanese doesn't have a plural so the "he only said one" argument doesn't hold. [[n:New Pokémon RPG announced|Just look at the information we have]]. It's obviously Generation V. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 12:12, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Anyway, the CoroCoro scans for Zoroark fit the silhouette from Pokémon Sunday.--[[User:Crazylegs24]]<br />
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== Why is this page protected? ==<br />
Why is this page protected? --[[User:?????|Any]] [[User talk:?????|Questions]][[User:?????|?????]] 18:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Think about it.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#003366">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#8C92AC">''Blue''</span>]]''' 18:37, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::<nowiki>*</nowiki>cough*Speculation*cough* [[User:CuboneKing|<font color="Red">Cu</font>]][[User talk:CuboneKing|<font color="Tan">bo</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|<font color="Green color light">ne</font>]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|<font color="Black">King</font>]] 18:41, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Because someone is 100% likely going to put what they think the new Pokémon is, probably saying it's Mightyena's evolution or something, if it isn't protected. That is speculation, something that isn't allowed here in the mainspace. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 22:21, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::It is not a good sign when a question like this needs to be asked.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We are the Void 22:43, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::That against us or against the users who'd make crappy speculative edits? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#80964B">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C4E673">chidna</span>]]''' 03:22, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::It's against users who don't realise why it should be protected...--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We lie in wait...... 14:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::::...same thing? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#80964B">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C4E673">chidna</span>]]''' 04:29, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Arguable.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We lie in wait...... 13:13, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Would it not be better to make this page "semi-protected" so that only established users can edit? There are plenty of established users who are not administrators, whom I'm sure would want to contribute to such a monumental article. [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 09:55, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:That wouldn't stop speculation from incurring. If you have any confirmed evidence, ask for it here.--[[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 10:12, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Generation V Pokémon Infobox, anyone? ==<br />
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I know you'll probably all find this pointless, but I decided to throw together a {{redlink|Template:PokémonInfoboxGenV|temporary infobox}} to use for the Generation V Pokémon articles. It's basically a stripped-down version of the regular infobox that leaves out all the fields for any technical stuff (Egg groups, EXP yield, Gender ratios, etc.) that's unlikely to be revealed until ''Pokémon V'' comes out later this year. I also created a [[User:Quagbert/Z (Pokémon)|user-subpage for the silhouetted mystery Pokémon]] that uses a {{redlink|Template:PokémonInfoboxGenVNoncat|non-categorizing version}} of this template. <br />
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''Thanks to {{u|PsychicRider}} for making me aware of the original non-categorizing Pokémon infobox.'' [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 00:49, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Masamitsu Hidaka==<br />
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Should [[Masamitsu Hidaka]] be mentioned since that interview kind of confirmed Generation V? --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 05:50, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Unlink ==<br />
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Can somebody please unlink "Generation V Pokémon"? It's a redlink right now. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 13:52, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== This just in! ==<br />
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Serebii.net just confirmed the first two Fifth Generation Pokémon! Go check it out! :) --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 14:21, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Serebii.net didn't. Leaked scans did. Also, the first one was already revealed. The second one was revealed to be before it in their evolutionary line. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:22, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I think yu're probably going to need to find this information from another source. It seems like the users here have some sort of vendetta against Serebii.--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 14:29, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::It is officially confirmed. It was from a different source. It was from scans. You can see bulbanews's draft. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::We don't have any vendetta against Serebii. He just isn't the source in this case - CoroCoro is. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 15:01, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Either way, it's confirmed right? I'd love to update the page, but it's locked. *ahem* <br />
''[[User:Chosen|<span style="color:#F85888">Chosen</span>]] <span style="color:#6890F0">of</span> [[User talk:Chosen|<span style="color:#F8D030">Mana</span>]]'' [[User:Chosen|-]] 15:15, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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[[File:CoroCoro March 1.jpg|thumb]]<br />
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Here's the picture! --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 15:19, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Alright, these two Pokémon have been offically confirmed by the leaked CoroCoro scans, but apparently it's still considered too early to put up the Bulbapedia articles for them. Is there some additional form of conformation that we're waiting for? <br />
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Anyway, I already have {{p|Zorua}} and {{p|Zoroark}} in my userspace ready to be moved to the main space when we're finally allowed to do so. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 17:07, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:It's probably due to lack of information. I assume that when its ability/abilities and/or base stats are revealed it will be moved. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 17:16, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::IIRC, none of that sort of information (especially base stats) was revealed for the Generation IV Pokémon until the actual release of Diamond/Pearl, or shortly before, though we still had mainspace articles for them anyway. This means it'd be months before we move Zorua/Zoroark into the mainspace. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 17:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Actually, according to serebii, they're supposed to be revealed next month. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 18:45, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Related Pokémon ==<br />
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On the page, it says that it has noteable links with the Riolu and Poochyena families. If it's definitely pure dark type then just ignore this, but couldn't it be an alternative to the Vulpix family? --[[User:Herachu|Herachu]] 22:07, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
: I agree. --[[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|i herd u liek Treakos?]] 00:10, 12 February 2010 (UTC) [[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|Kimori-]][[User talk:Kimori-Hinoarashi|Hinoarashi]]<br />
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== New Pokémon template ==<br />
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Based partly on the {{template|DP episode}} template, I've decided to make a [[Template:NewPokémon|new Pokémon template]] to use the next time a new Pokémon is revealed. The code would go like this:<br />
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{{subst:NewPokémon|main|Jp. Katakana name|Romanized Jp. name|<br />
typen= (number of types) |<br />
type1= (first type) |<br />
type2= (second type) |<br />
pron= (name's pronunciation) |<br />
jspecies= (species in Japanese) |<br />
species= (species, aka "____ Pokémon")<br />
image= (filename of image) |<br />
caption= (caption for said image) |<br />
height-m= (height in meters) |<br />
weight-kg= (weight in kilograms) |<br />
prev= (previous Pokémon's (i.e. pre-evolution) name, Arceus by default) |<br />
prevnum= (previous Pokémon's National Dex #, 493 by default) |<br />
next= (next Pokémon's (i.e. evolved form) name, Bulbasaur by default) |<br />
nextnum= (next Pokémon's National Dex #, 001 by default) |<br />
}}<br />
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Those who want to use this template for their own userspace should replace "main" in the top line with "user", so that those user sub-pages aren't categorized with the genuine Pokémon articles in the main space. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 01:04, 12 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Take away part in introduction ==<br />
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It says that it is unknown whether the new games will be contemporaneous with any of the other games. I beg to differ. Pokemon Sunday officially stated that Zoroark lives in a "New Area". Or is it just saying that it is unknown whether it will be possible to travel to another region? Spenfen<br />
:Contemporaneous means at the same time. Like how RBY and RSE are at the same time, and so is GSC and DPPt. It has nothing to do with location.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 18:08, 15 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Japanese Gen. 5 page ==<br />
I have a good link to a japanese page on the Generation 5 games here: [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/game/g100215_03.html].--[[User:Christopher Costello|Christopher Costello]] 01:14, 20 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:That's kinda where we got all of our information. Pokémon.co.jp and the Japanese Pokémon variety shows. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#80964B">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C4E673">chidna</span>]]''' 03:41, 22 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Interwiki link to Pokéteca ==<br />
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Now that there's an article about [[:es:Quinta Generación|Generation V on Pokéteca]], can someone add it the interwiki link to it, please? --[[User:Blaziken257|<span style="color:#F08030;">'''Blaz'''</span>]][[User talk:Blaziken257|<span style="color:#C03028;">'''iken'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Blaziken257|<span style="color:#302000;">'''257'''</span>]] 03:19, 24 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Two New Generation V Pokémon Scan !!! ==<br />
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Hey guys, I got this '''EPIC''' magazine scan featuring two new evolutions of Delibird and Farfetch'd from Generation V and it seems 100% real. {{unsigned|Adyniz}}<br />
:It's not. Notice how I protected the hell out of those names ''before Zoroark and Zorua were revealed''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#80964B">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C4E673">chidna</span>]]''' 07:08, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Does that mean this scan is a fake one? --<span style="color:#00FF00">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#6699FF;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#99CCFF;">'''Niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#00FF00">♪♫</span> 07:11, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::The screenshot is obviously fake if you couldn't tell. That should have given it away easily. So yes, it is fake. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange">Jel</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#90a8e0;">lo</span>]]</b> 07:29, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Lol, man I am dumb.<br />
::::'''Source''': http://www.pokemondarkay.net/{{unsigned|Adyniz}}<br />
:::::Looks pretty real. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 11:00, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::Well it may look real but I've seen things in my days done in Photoshop that looked very real. Can someone translate or is there even any legit source? I don't read Spanish nor Japanese. <b>[[User:.insomniac.|<font color="#FFC125">inso</font>]]<font color="#CC1100">m</font>[[User_talk:.insomniac.|<font color="#E0DFDB">niac</font></b>]] 11:05, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Since it's already been confirmed as fake, please take further discussion regarding the scan to the {{tt|forums|Not the Bulbapedia forum.}}. Thanks, - [[User:Kogoro|<span style="color:#DA70D6;">'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>'''</span>]] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|<span style="color:#FFB6C1;">'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>'''</span>]] - 11:08, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Nintendo 3DS]] ==<br />
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It's very likely that these new games will be on the 3DS, so can someone remove the statement saying that the games ''will'' be released on the regular DS?--'''[[User:Immewnity|<span style="color:#88AADD">''immewnity''</span>]][[User talk:Immewnity|<span style="color:#627DB7">the</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|<span style="color:#335577">mew</span>]]''' 00:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:[[Generation II]] ahoy. The press release said DS. Not 3DS. 3DS comes out NEXT YEAR. These come out THIS YEAR. Nintendo's not ''stupid''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:54, 3 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::It could be released before Christmas in Japan so there is the potential for the game to be on 3DS. But that's purely guesswork at the moment and it could still be a DS game even if the 3DS is implemented so we go with the only source on the matter - the original announcement which said it will be on the DS. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 11:27, 3 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Or, as in Generation II, the games could be programmed with 3DS enhancements, yet still be playable on the DS. Nonetheless, until something official states that they will utilize the 3DS, any mention of it is speculation at best. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 14:23, 3 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::Technically, TTEchidna, the page that announced the 3DS stated that it would be released sometime between now and next April, so that doesn't mean next year.<br />
[[User:DarthMartian7|DarthMartian7]] 23:50, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Current Length ==<br />
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The days have weird numbers, can an administrator fix them? Thanks. [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 21:23, 9 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:They're automatically calculated by the template... &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 06:38, 10 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::But the games haven't been released yet. I think it's too early to say that Generation V has started. [[User:Fudgenuggets|Fudgenuggets]] 22:16, 10 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::It hasn't started yet. It starts in 0.8 days according to those numbers. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 03:22, 11 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::It's because it's calculated weirdly. Once we have a ''date'', we'll put that in, and it'll look right. Until then, DECIMALLLLLLLLLL '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:34, 22 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Uploaded player sprite ==<br />
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[[File:Hilbert OD.png]]<br />
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I got the player sprite and uploaded it to the archives... I guess if someone can find a place for it on the article, well, there it is!<br />
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Actually, now that I see them side-by-side, it looks like the front-facing sprite on the left is the male character while the right-facing sprite on the right is the female character. Any ideas? - [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] 02:01, 23 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:1) This is the article for Gen V in general, not just Black and White.<br />
:2) Do we have the overworld sprites from the past games anywhere? The characters themselves will get articles eventually but we will hopefully have Sugimori artwork released around the time that happens. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 23:09, 23 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::We do, but... mostly fronts. And those are animated. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:02, 24 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Well, I'm sure there's a home for those sprites... right? :) - [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] 06:58, 26 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== About the day count... ==<br />
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You should set it to zero, I'm not sure we'll have Pokémon B&W in -0.840277777778 days. --[[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]] 12:53, 30 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:But we all wish we did... [[User:Thermorules123|Thermorules123]] 11:32, 2 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::You mean you didn't get your game 0.840277777778 days ago? Never mind, I hacked the template to make it say better stuff. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 12:10, 2 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::As long as you didn't break the template on the other four generations. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:56, 4 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::I'm fairly certain I didn't. Fixed it through an optional extra parameter. Seeing as the parameter doesn't exist on the other four pages, nothing should have broken. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 05:19, 7 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Gen 4 compatability ==<br />
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Shouldn't it be noted that this has been confirmed? (The upcoming Flare Blitz Entei and co can do something in gen 5) {{unsigned|Deuxhero}}<br />
:makes sense, but since it's not officially confirmed, {{tt|we can't include it.|That's Bulbapedia's standard.}} [[User:ShinyPikachu|<span><font color="#E9AB17">Shiny</font></span>]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|<span><font color="#FFFC17">Pikachu</font></span>]] 12:44, 7 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::What do you mean, it hasn't been officially confirmed? It's been confirmed that the shiny legendary gerbils unlock something in BW, meaning that they are transferable to aforementioned games. Serebii.net reported on this last month. Oh wait, let me guess- Serebii.net isn't what you consider a reliable source despite only being wrong about stuff they explicitly said they weren't sure about in the first place. We also didn't add all the english names for all the HGSS stuff until it came out and proved him right. When are you guys gonna swallow your pride and admit that Serebii.net is probably the most reliable source of Pokémon information in the internet? <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 14:01, 7 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::''The most reliable source of Pokémon information in the internet?'', {{tt|Hahahaha, I don't think so|I don't want to go off-topic otherwise it will be long debate}}. Anyway, wait for an official announcement before doing/adding anything. <span style="color:#FF0">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#00FA9A;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#9F9;">'''Niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#FF0">♪♫</span> 14:16, 7 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::If I recall though it was indeed confirmed by an official source that the legendary beasts could unlock something in BW... apparently someone got their hands on the pamphlet that you get for pre-ordering the ticket and it states that the beasts unlock stuff in BW. Not sure if there's a scan of it anywhere though, I would refrain from putting it on the page if it's just his personal speculation again. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|<span style="color:#e072a9;">ティナ</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Tina|<span style="color:#728084;">♫</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|<span style="color:#728084;">★</span>]]</sup> 15:50, 7 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::If it is added, be sure not to assume HOW the games are compatible; it's possible they could unlock something through a method other than trading or transferring. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 14:22, 9 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::Just as a clarification, an official site has yet to specifically state "generation 4 can trade in some way with generation 5". The pamphlet in question can be seen in entirety [http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/image/tickets/print/guide.pdf here]. On page 3 there is a small section that talks about Pokemon Black/White and the last sentence of that section mentions that the 3 have a secret. This was taken to mean that the 3 unlock something in B/W obviously because it is mentioned inside the B/W section and therefore probably are able to be traded to Gen 5 in some way. Anyways, that was the logic behind "Gen 4 and 5 compatibility confirmed." Whether that is a good enough reason to be added on here or not, I don't know :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 16:39, 9 May 2010 (UTC))<br />
:::::::There's ''also'' that little issue of them being ON THE DS. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:54, 11 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
I get the concept of compatability with Gen4 but whats going to happen to the Pokedex when you get aGen5 Pokemon on a Gen4 game?([[User: Munchy Lax]] 20:33,3 June 2010 (EST)<br />
:Well you obviously won't be able to take anything that wasn't in Gen IV back to a gen IV game. If it's a direct trade then it'll be like the time capsule in generation II. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</sc> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 00:44, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Starters ==<br />
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Here's the image from Pokémon Sunday: [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 01:49, 9 May 2010 (UTC) [[File:PokéSun May09 10.png|thumb|right]]<br />
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I can guess that the Grass Type is a Bird of Parodise Pokemon, as in the plant 'Bird of Parodise,' and also they had already done Bird based starters for [[Torchic|Fire]] and [[Piplup|Water]], and not yet Grass. If this could be true when revealed, then it will certainly complete the Bird Starters just like the Lizard Starters of [[Treeko|Grass]],[[Charmander|Fire]] and [[Totodile|Water]]. <br />
The Fire Type could may as well be a piglet for it's curley tail, and the Water Type could be another Amphibian Pokemon like [[Mudkip]]. These are just guesses, but what do you think? [[User:Cynthia149]] 17:07, 9 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I think that you need to take your speculation to the forums. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|<sup style="color:#00008B;">'''Maverick'''</sup>]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|<sub style="color:#00008B;">'''Nate'''</sub>]]'' 16:35, 9 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Just for the heck of it, I have a [[User:Quagbert/No.494 (Pokémon)|draft article for the Grass starter]], which I created using the template I mentioned above. I also have startup code to create the Fire and Water starters' articles using this same template, if anyone's interested:<br />
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Fire Starter:<br />
{{subst:NewPokémon|main|日本語名|JP Name<br />
|species=<br />
|typen=1|type1=Fire<br />
|image=<br />
|art=<!--BW-->|caption=Scan from [[CoroCoro]]<br />
|height-m=<br />
|weight-kg=<br />
|prev=(grass starter)|next=water starter)}}<br />
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Water Starter:<br />
{{subst:NewPokémon|main|日本語名|JP Name<br />
|species=<br />
|typen=1|type1=Water<br />
|image=<br />
|art=<!--BW-->|caption=Scan from [[CoroCoro]]<br />
|height-m=<br />
|weight-kg=<br />
|prev=(fire starter)|next=Zorua}}<br />
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[[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 01:19, 10 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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For the curious, from left to right its the Grass-type, the Fire-type, and the Water-type. [http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/05/12/mystery_pokemon_detailed/ Here]. Still no names or pics other though. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 14:29, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:There's this great site called Bulbanews that has already reported that information - and with pictures, too! <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 16:54, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Excuuuuse me for not noticing. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 18:07, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== "Both are canine Pokémon," ==<br />
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By which the article presumably means ''vulpine''; canine refers to dogs but Zoroa and Zoroark are/will be fox Pokémon. [[User:Smithers888|Smithers888]] 04:10, 10 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Foxes are canine. Ish. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:09, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canidae - Canini and Vulpini are separate members of Canidae --[[User:Grinnz|Grinnz]] 18:59, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::: I had something but might as well just ask. Aren't dogs actually Lupine, if we're going Vulpine for foxes.--[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 19:05, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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isnt lupine for wolves Iirc ([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:27, 12 May 2010 (UTC))<br />
: Dogs are in the same family as wolves. Canis Lupus, the dog is only further distinguished by Canis Lupis familiaris. But even still Canine could refer to Canidae which is what Foxes/Dogs/wolves are in. The only difference is Foxes are further classified as "Vulpine" and if we follow suit, dogs/wolves would be Lupine not Canine. And it did say some foxes (while not true foxes) could still be under the Canis Genus if that's where the Canine name comes from. But again while Canine might refer to dogs specifically, isn't that more of a general consensus, rather than a scientific consensus? I'm going scientific here, if people want to be so correct with the whole Vulpine/Canine argument. -[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 19:36, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Who cares, really. That section'll be gone by the end of the year. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:56, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Older PCs ==<br />
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[http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/05/12/mystery_pokemon_detailed/ Apparently], artwork shown in Coro Coro comics indicates that the Player characters aren't kids like previous generations, but are a bit older and appear to be young adults. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 14:31, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== well heres the pics ==<br />
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I have a corocoro scan of the player characters.....<br />
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([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:17, 12 May 2010 (UTC))<br />
:The scan is from Pokebeach. I think we'd prefer it if it was your own scan. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange">Jel</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#90a8e0;">lo</span>]]</b> 18:25, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Well, the beach is our buddy, too. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:24, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== New Pokémon? ==<br />
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I found this online. It has the Pokémon Sunday picture in the corner. Does anybody know if this is the real deal or a scam?<br />
http://nd03.blog.cz/294/620/14fe8a949a_61909769_o2.jpg<br />
[[User:DarthMartian7|DarthMartian7]] 19:19, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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bleh...looks fake ([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:25, 12 May 2010 (UTC))<br />
:Old and fake. (btw: the text on the bottom says "the Pokemon that grasps the key to the Ruler of Illusions: Z!") <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 19:28, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Fail. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:54, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== New Pokémon (CoroCoro scan) ==<br />
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Came here to upload the scan, but apparently someone else did but didn't do anything with it. Here it is: <br />
This info should probably be put into the main article. [[User:Marluxia.Kyoshu|Marluxia.Kyoshu]] 20:36, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:It's been used on News. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 20:42, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== More info! ==<br />
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*Zorua has the Illusion ability.<br />
*Mijumaru is 0.5m tall and weighs 5.9kg. It also has the Torrent ability.<br />
*Tsutaaja is 0.6m tall and weighs 8.1kg. It also has the Overgrow ability.<br />
*Pokabu is 0.6m tall and weighs 9.9kg. It also has the Blaze ability.<br />
These should be added to the Pokémon articles--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Poké''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">lova!</span>]] 10:05, 13 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== On the use of unconfirmed information ==<br />
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<strike>We seem to have taken a whole bunch of unconfirmed information as fact here, and as it's generally not Bulbapedia policy to do so, it somewhat bothers me.<br />
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For the record, here is a list of information, much of which has been added to Bulbapedia, that I have not seen in the CoroCoro pages or any other official source (though if you have official sources with this that I have missed, please, by all means, link me):<br />
*The name "Tsutaaja," as well as all info on it beyond the fact that it is at least partly Grass-type<br />
*The name "Pokabu," as well as all info on it beyond the fact that it is at least partly Fire-type<br />
*The name "Mijumaru," as well as all info on it beyond the fact that it is at least partly Water-type<br />
*"Hiun City"<br />
*Zoroark's ability, "Illusion"<br />
*Those two new attacks whose names I can't be bothered to remember right now (Trickery and Claw Sharpen or something?)<br />
*The method by which to obtain Zoroark<br />
I have seen ''none'' of this come from official sources, only from fansites, blogs, and forums. (Hell, I could have sworn that I saw some of this in a 2ch speculation thread back in March.) The justification to their validity seems to be that the random anonymous person who posted this information on 2ch was right about other information before it was leaked, so he must be right now - but that reasoning hasn't been enough in past cases, has it?<br />
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I really wish we had kept the above-mentioned facts off of Bulbapedia until they were confirmed, but here they are. I personally think they should be removed (and the starters' pages moved into TTE's userspace or something) until they are confirmed, but a reasonable compromise, I think, would be to tag all articles that mention this information with an "unconfirmed" tag of some sort (I seem to remember a template for one, though I can't find it now...).<br />
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Any thoughts?</strike> <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 18:23, 13 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:They're all from CoroCoro. It's pretty undeniable. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 18:40, 13 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Scratch that, I found the CoroCoro scans that apparently no one cared to share which confirmed all of this. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 18:42, 13 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Starter Region ==<br />
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i would just like to say that, because of the set-up of the page, it looks like one or the regions in Gen. V is Starters. I would fix it myself, but I'm not an Admin. could an admin please change it show it looks like this<br />
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<nowiki><br />
==Regions==<br />
===Isshu===<br />
==Starters==</nowiki><br />
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instead of this<br />
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<nowiki><br />
==Regions==<br />
===Isshu===<br />
===Starters===</nowiki> thank-you [[User:ShinyPikachu|<span><font color="#E9AB17">Shiny</font></span>]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|<span><font color="#FFFC17">Pikachu</font></span>]] 19:54, 23 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:If you take a look at the table of contents, you'll see that "Starter Pokémon" is a lower heading than "Isshu", as it should be, to indicate that those are the Starter Pokémon of Isshu. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 20:51, 24 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::i guess that's true. the actual part of the article is what made me confused. But looking at the Table of Contents, it is set up correctly.[[User:ShinyPikachu|<span><font color="#E9AB17">Shiny</font></span>]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|<span><font color="#FFFC17">Pikachu</font></span>]] 23:42, 24 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Never too early to have the article set up like the rest. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:53, 29 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Legendary Pokémon==<br />
I saw two new Pokémon looks like the legendaries at the Pokémon english official site (names+artworks). Their names are Reshiram and Zekrom. I don't know if these informations are useful but... -[[User:Caciulacdlac|Caciulacdlac]]<br />
:Already a page on Bulbanews. Also, since it's breaking news, admins, may not have had time to add it in. [[User:ShinyPikachu|<span><font color="#E9AB17">Shiny</font></span>]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|<span><font color="#FFFC17">Pikachu</font></span>]] 18:03, 28 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:If anyone's interested, I have userspace draft articles for [[User:Quagbert/Reshiram|Reshiram]] and [[User:Quagbert/Zekrom|Zekrom]]. I just made them as draft articles since I'm not sure if it's appropriate yet to put them in the mainspace, but when it is, any admin is free to move them (or give me the OK to do so). [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 20:40, 28 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I may as well mention that {{user|Jello}} also has draft articles as well: [[User:Jello/Sandbox/Reshiram (Pokémon)|Reshiram]], [[User:Jello/Sandbox/Zekrom (Pokémon)|Zekrom]] [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 20:47, 28 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Hi, I'm new here, but I just wanted to add a little bit of information about the names, if it hasn't been done already. In Reshiram's name, the shiramu (シラム) comes from [http://dic.yahoo.co.jp/dsearch?enc=UTF-8&p=%E7%99%BD%E3%82%80&stype=0&dtype=0 shiramu (白む)] which means "turning white" or "growing light". In Zekrom's name, the kuromu (クロム) comes from [http://dic.yahoo.co.jp/dsearch?enc=UTF-8&p=%E9%BB%92%E3%82%80&stype=0&dtype=0 kuromu (黒む)] which means "turning black" or "tinged with darkness". They're used especially with regards to the sky, for example, "the sky grows light at dawn" or "the sky is tinged with darkness at night". Hope that helps a little. [[User:AmaranthSparrow|AmaranthSparrow]] 01:31, 29 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Oh, and just speculating, but the Re- and Ze- could come from rei (レイ) and zero (ゼロ), two pronunciations of rei (零), which obviously means "zero". [[User:AmaranthSparrow|AmaranthSparrow]] 01:43, 29 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::How come nobody's yet made the articles for Reshiram and Zekrom yet? And yet people who DO create articles at strange names to get around it, they just get deleted. Why not just move them to the proper names? <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 01:50, 29 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::We're not satisfied with them yet. And considering tomorrow's PSunday, we'll probably get more than enough data. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:51, 29 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::We need to put informations of the two legendaries fast, my friends are asking more things about them but I just have the basic. '''[[User:Blaze of Shadow|Blaze of Shadow]]<br />
:::::::We can't get more info yet Blaze, tell your friends to wait.--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Poké''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">lova!</span>]] 04:47, 31 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
we dont even know their secondary or primary types, we only know that they are part dragon type, so not even the most basic info we have, the article would be only a picture with nothing else.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 07:39, 31 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:That is all we knew about Zoroark when he was first revealed. Type and picture. Everything else was blank. [[User:Myzou|Myzou]] 08:46, 31 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::He was also the first Gen. V Pokémon revealed, which is why he was such a big deal. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 14:50, 31 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Five Known Pokemon? ==<br />
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The article says that five Generation V Pokemon are known, but with the announcement yesterday, seven are known. It even mentions Reshiram and Zekrom in the article. Can an admin make the edit?--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 03:52, 30 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:And the Zekrom page is exist. Please fix this too. -[[User:Caciulacdlac|Caciulacdlac]]<br />
::Yeah, perhaps semi-protection would be smarter here if the admins can't afford to be on top of this at all times. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 15:46, 1 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::The template uses the number of pages to find how many are new. After that, you have to purge the content by pressing the clock by your username to make it show seven. [[User:Turtwig A|<font color="#CD7F32">Turtwig's</font>]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|<font color="#FF7F00">A-B-Cs</font>]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|<font color="#green">talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|<font color="#yellow">contribs</font>]]) 15:49, 1 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::<s>I see. So the reason it reads five instead of seven is that there are no articles for Zekrom and Reshiram, and the reason there are no articles for them is because they are create-protected. The admins couldn't just create the pages and protect them? [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 15:59, 1 June 2010 (UTC</s><br />
:::::Didn't realize they'd been created. I've purged the content, but it still reads five. Maybe the categories haven't been added to the new legendaries' articles? [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 16:01, 1 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::It's likely because of your cache, maybe? The generation infobox reads new Pokemon as the amount of articles in [[:Category:Generation V Pokémon]], it doesn't need to be manually updated. We apologize for any inconvenience if we don't have new Pokemon articles up within the day they're revealed- we'd like to make sure that our articles aren't sloppily put together and include all the known info... which can be difficult at times and make us go "Hm, is one line of text and a mostly-unfilled infobox really worth an article?". Not the point, I know, but I'd just like to point that out. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|<span style="color:#e072a9;">ティナ</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Tina|<span style="color:#728084;">♫</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|<span style="color:#728084;">★</span>]]</sup> 17:12, 1 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
No, that's not it at all. I've taken a look at the source code, and it actually reads "Currently, five Generation V Pokémon are known." No template or anything. This needs to be changed. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 19:58, 1 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
:OH! You're talking about the infobox! We've been talking about the specific text in the article, under the "Currently known Pokémon" section. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 20:00, 1 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==The Order==<br />
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Someone have thinged what is the right order of Zoroa,Zoroark,Reshiram and Zekram? when the numbers be show we need to make the right order. [[User:Blaze of Shadow]] 23:30, 1 June 2010<br />
:Please make more sense.--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Poké''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">lova!</span>]] 05:02, 2 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
::We don't know what numbers they are because we don't know how high the regional dex is going to go. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 10:56, 2 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't think Blaze is talking about specific dex numbers, just general placement, i.e. we can assume that Zekrom and Reshiram will be near the end of the dex, but we can't confirm anything right now. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 14:33, 5 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==July 2010 New Pokémon==<br />
I just whipped a [[User:Quagbert/Chiraamii (Pokémon)|draft article for Chirāmī]] based on the scans that just leaked out. I only did Chirāmī since that's the only one we have a decent amount of clear info on. Perhaps in the future we may want to take any more new Gen V Pokémon discussion {{tt|over here|Category talk:Generation V Pokémon}} and leave this talk page for other Gen V stuff, though that just my suggestion. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 12:05, 11 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Hiragana vs. Kanji ==<br />
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"''Kanji are now used in game menus and text, in addition to the hiragana and katakana used in the previous four generations.''" >> Not saying that this statement is false but could someone point me to a known instance of the games where kanji is used more prominently? I know that it has been used for some things already since Gen I, like the prices in the Japanese versions using the kanji for yen, but this seems to refer to a greater use of the kanji throughout the dialogues... [[User:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:green">ポケモン</span></b>]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:blue">あいこうか</span></b>]] 17:45, 4 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:If I recall correctly, Colo/XD also uses kanji... I think PBR and Stadium ''miiight'', but I'm not sure. There's also kanji in the TCG GB games. I might be missing a few...<br />
:However, this is the first time that a main series handheld game has used kanji in dialogue- the only screenshot I can recall seeing it though was the intro with [http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/series/bw/#/characters/characters02.html Prof Araragi and Chirami]. It's assumed to be a toggle of sorts seeing as there's other dialogue screenshots with just kana. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|<span style="color:#e072a9;">ティナ</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Tina|<span style="color:#728084;">♫</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|<span style="color:#728084;">★</span>]]</sup> 17:55, 4 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I was referring specifically to BW, though, but thanks for the info you provided. xD Well, it does really seem to be an optional element, since I didn't notice kanji in any of the footage before, not even that one of Prof. Araragi and Chiramii... [[User:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:green">ポケモン</span></b>]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:blue">あいこうか</span></b>]] 18:26, 4 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Yes, according to the new Iwata Asks[http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/interview/irbj/vol1/index.html#list] there is going to be both a hiragana mode and a kanji mode. I suggest changing "''Kanji are now used in game menus and text, in addition to the hiragana and katakana used in the previous four generations.''" to something like "''Aside from the usual game menus and text in {{wp|hiragana}} and {{wp|katakana}}, there is now also the option of a {{wp|kanji}} mode. While hiragana and katakana made the Pokémon series accessible to elementary school kids, the optional texts mixed with kanji now also make the games easier to pick up for older teens and adults.''" As opposed to the present version, this makes clear that there is the '''option''' of kanji, and explains the effects of the new kanji mode to those unknown to the Japanese writing system. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 12:46, 11 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Named after colors ==<br />
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Trivia mentions that black and white are colors, technically they're not colors. I think it should be reworded to say that the titles were the first since Generation I (or II, since gold and silver can be colors) to not be named after a gemstone or a mineral. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 18:41, 4 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Technically, they '''are''' colors. Technically, they are not hues - they are shades. This terminology is used in most artistic endeavors, except lighting, where white and black are the presence or absence of light, but that's neither here nor there. These are colors. However, I agree that silver and gold are also colors, but I think it's pretty clear what was meant in the article. [[User:Jazzmoth|<b><span style="color:#0000cc">Jazz</span><span style="color:#ff3300">moth</span></b>]] 14:23, 5 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokemon currently known ==<br />
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By my latest tally, including the pokemon recently released, their are now about 20 with names and around 3 more that still remain unnamed, should anyone make an edit of this. {{unsigned|InferSizMamoMagne}}<br />
:There are fourteen named Pokémon; these are the ones that are counted. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 06:49, 5 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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i want to add koromori. but it wont let me [[User:ArceusLX|arceusLX leveled up!]] 19:46, 7 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:The page name has been protected because we know too little about the subject. You can quit spamming pages now, please. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 19:48, 7 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== The Picture ==<br />
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I'm just wondering if instead of the logos of Black and White getting put as the picture, I think that someone should just put the Japanese boxart pictures on.-- [[User:lilkaykaygal|<span style="color:pink">lilkaykaygal</span>]] 7:34, 5 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:The boxart is on the {{game|Black and White|s}} article. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 21:52, 6 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== advances in gameplay ==<br />
i need to add that you can play triple battles in pokemon black and white. [[User:ArceusLX|arceusLX leveled up!]] 19:37, 7 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Or someone else could add it when we know more about it. Why do ''you'' need to add it?--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Poké''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">lova!</span>]] 01:38, 8 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, nevermind, someone already put it in.--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Poké''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">lova!</span>]] 01:40, 8 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, and please fix the triple battles link - it points to ''Double_battle#Triple_battle'' as of now, while the correct would be ''Double_battle#Triple_battle'''s''''' --<span style="font-family:monospace;color: rgb(0,160,0); background-color: black">'''HTMLCODER.exe@bulbapedia$_ [[User:HTMLCODER.exe|/usr]][[Special:Contributions/HTMLCODER.exe|/bin]][[User_talk:HTMLCODER.exe|/apache2]] -k restart'''</span> 11:25, 16 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Starter Evos ==<br />
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I MIGHT have found the final evolutions of the starters, but they are probably fake.<br />
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Here they are: File:GenVStarterEvos.png<br />
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[[User:Mewtwo777|I am Darth Mewtwo... Fear me, and my team made entirely of Mewtwo!!!]] 17:14, 23 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:They're fake. (and the picture has been deleted on the Archives) <sc>[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</sc> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 03:18, 24 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== NGamer - 157? ==<br />
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In the most recent issue of NGamer magazine UK, they said there would be 157 new Pokémon in B/W. I don't know where they could have gotten that possible fact from, but it ought to be looked into, in the event that they are telling the truth. However, NGamer have been known to put rumors down as fact, and I would predict this is false. [[User:Torngentleman2|MAMOSWINEPwnz! (Torngentleman2)]] 18:37, 2 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
: It is a rumor that's been circulating for a while, but there hasn't been any actual evidence I'm yet aware of. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 18:59, 2 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==season==<br />
since seasons were confirmed to be in gen V could someone add that to this generations changes?[[User:Badwolf1234|Badwolf1234]] 20:53, 10 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Colours ==<br />
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Wow, this is totally random and pointless, but I wanted to point out that the thing about these being the first games named after colours since G1 is inaccurate. All the games have been based off of colours, however, those colours also tend to be other things (metals and gems, etc.). For example, silver is a colour, gold is a colour, ruby is bright red, as it's counterparts sapphire and emerald to blue and green respectively, and so forth. I just think that it's kinda pointless to put that information int he trivia when it's not exactly true. But feel free to debate with me, I'm open for people trying to change my mind. :D<br />
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[[User:Makuta Zero|Makuta Zero]] 06:21, 12 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Advances in Gameplay ==<br />
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I think that it should include that seasons will be in the games. --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 15:35, 22 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Monochrome generation? ==<br />
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its not monochrome monochrome is 1 color black and white is already 2 it should be called the shade generation since they already said third would be grey {{Unsigned|Ares5566}}<br />
:I'd like to inform you of a few things<br />
:1. Sign your comments. ALWAYS<br />
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:2. "Pokémon Gre(a)y" was never confirmed<br />
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:3. Monochrome doesn't mean 1 color. It means shades of 1 color. so Monochrome and Shade are the exact same thing. [[User:ShinyPikachu|<span><font color="#E9AB17">Shiny</font></span>]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|<span><font color="#FFFC17">Pikachu</font></span>]] 02:49, 23 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Just how Generation III was the Advanced Gen, why isnt this the Rebirth Gen? That is what is really is. They are having fresh new starts. Also, monochrome only applies to three games. Speculation shows that we have high chances of getting an Emerald remake (ranberth at youtbue has evidenece). In 2012, 10 anivesity; they like to remake at that time. Also, im reseaching that we might get more Gen I remakes due to 15th anivesrity. The biggest hint is that every region has included Kanto.Here is my guess...<br />
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::*2011-Black and White<br />
::*2012-Grey<br />
::*2012-Emerald remake<br />
::*2013-Gen I remakes<br />
::(they will more spaced out)<br />
::So, with that said, i want to vote on a name! --[[User:Shaymin Master426|Shaymin Master426]] 06:01, 19 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Monochrome is accurate for now. If there are Hoenn remakes, the name can be changed. It's called what fans have chosen, and for now it's monochrome. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#444444">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#C3C3C3">'''Monster'''</span>]] 06:17, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Needs Updated ==<br />
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This page is outdated. It needs to get updated with the latest info that has since been confirmed by last month's CoroCoro, and reconfirmed by both Pokemon Sunday & the official Site.<br />
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== The fan name is wrong ==<br />
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The page says they call it the "monochrome generation".I am an Art Major at Lord Fairfax Community College,and that name makes no sense.Monochrome "only 1 color".There are 2 versions,and also black and white are not colors.They are refered to as neutrals in art(which is the only side that has an argument in color).Also,black is the abscense of color,and white is the combination of all percieved color.That name is completely inaccurate,and should be removed from the article because it does not really relate. {{unsigned|Slyver333}}<br />
:According to Wikipedia's article on {{wp|Monochrome}}, "For an image, the term monochrome is usually taken to mean the same as black-and-white or, more likely, grayscale..." Therefore monochrome is not incorrect here. Also, if it's here, it probably means it was used on some Japanese fansite--just because it's not "right" in art, doesn't mean it can't be used as a fan term. --[[User:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:red">Phantom</span>]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:black">Junkie</span>]] 02:24, 28 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Plus, black and white ARE colors - they aren't hues, but they are colors. In art terms, they are technically called shades and tints, respectively. Black is a shade of any color, and white is a tint of any color. As long as you're not talking about light, that makes them both colors. (When discussing colors of light, it is acceptable to refer to white as a combination of all frequencies, and black as the absence of all frequencies, but we're not in optics.) I don't know what you're art teachers are telling you, Slyver, but I'd double check your facts before trying to correct people. Different schools of thought use different terminology, and although I've never heard of the terms you use, I know the ones I learned are widely accepted. Long story short, monochrome is an acceptable term for this generation. (Monochrome can also refer to any range of shades, tints, and tones that have a single hue as their base.) <span style="border: 1px dotted #D04634;">[[User:Jazzmoth|<span style="color:#0F5437">ʝɑzz</span><span style="color:#3E0F54">motɦ</span>]] [[User talk:Jazzmoth|<span style="color:#004AC8;"><sub>❝❞</sub>]][[Special:Contributions/Jazzmoth|✎</span>]]</span> 21:38, 4 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Number of new pokes. ==<br />
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One of the new commericals claimed over 100 new pokes ([http://pokebeach.com/2010/08/black-white-wii-commercials-reveal-many-new-scenes Pokebeach says so anyways]) would be introduced. Should we change the "Pokémon" field in the template to reflect that? Also the info on communications with gen 4 is outdated. --[[User:Deuxhero|Deuxhero]] 01:06, 3 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Anthing for Trivia? ==<br />
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1.I think that with the information we have so far, we should be able to come up with some stuff for the section, at least for when it becomes editable to regular users. I noticed that this is the first Generation to not have a game where you (presumably) can't go to the Kanto region (as in Generation III, there are the Gen. I remakes, Generation IV has HeartGold and SoulSilver, where you can visit Kanto after beating the Elite Four). <br />
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2. I was wondering if anyone thinks they may make a Ruby/Sapphire remake, because Gen. III wasn't that much less advanced in terms of graphics and mechanics, so making a remake would be somewhat pointless, as you could just as easily buy the original, and considering they would have to put a lot of work into making a game that would be more or less the same in most ways(you can tell the added material in LG/FR and HG/SS is obviously needed or at least very different). <br />
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3. The new Japanese commercials for Black & White reveal another new team (as expected) and what looks like some sort of conversation thing where you get an up close look who you're talking to. Any comments?<br />
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Please respond if you would like. --[[User:BeeBwakka|BeeBwakka]] 23:43, 4 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
:# Trivia sections aren't things that need to be filled. No-one should ever be goining around looking at a page and trying to add trivia just because the trivia section is short.<br />
:# Talk pages aren't for general discussion. RS remake talk should be taken to {{bmgf|56930|this thread on the forums}}.<br />
:# Can you get pictures of the commercials? It would help for confirming details. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</sc> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 00:16, 5 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::It's far too early to say that anything won't happen in the next four years. Yes, the chances of revisiting Kanto are less likely this time around but anything could happen in the games after BW, especially with the 3DS (which any RS remakes would be on). --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 01:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Oh, sorry, I just joined so I'm new to this stuff. --[[User:BeeBwakka|BeeBwakka]] 12:29, 6 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Trivia? ==<br />
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Akinator ([http://www.akinator.com here]), is a website where Akinator (the character) tries to guess any character you're thinking of (by yes-no-maybe questions). It (the site) may be a little too small to be notable (though mijumaru alone has already been tried over 140 times) but it *already* has a question "Is your character from the fifth generation of Pokemon". [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 20:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I don't think it would be trivia, unless it was a big site. If it should be, it should be noted that they misspelled Pokémon. [[User:Turtwig A|<font color="#CD7F32">Turtwig's</font>]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|<font color="#FF7F00">A-B-Cs</font>]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|<font color="#green">talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|<font color="#yellow">contribs</font>]]) 20:37, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Oh god, not that thing...damn genie.. I don't think it would be trivia either...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 20:42, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Generation Length ==<br />
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Does anyone mind correcting the generation length? It says "-5 days". --[[User:MCRMY119|-DH]] 21:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Five days until, at that time. Now it says -1, because it's released on Saturday, also known as, you know... tomorrow. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:33, 17 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== All Pokemon Revealed. ==<br />
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http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon.shtml[[User:Umitencho|Umitencho]] 19:17, 16 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Serebii's not an official source. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 19:24, 16 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Gen V framerate ==<br />
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Shall we mention it? (For anyone curious: 30 overworld, 60 battles, title screen, 2D menus, 15 opening) [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 15:18, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Do you want a title screen pic like all the generations before it? ==<br />
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Just asking. If needed, I'll produce these. [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 13:31, 26 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Yeeeahh. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 09:52, 27 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Feel free to pick the one which's better. (http://s1096.photobucket.com/albums/g329/Jarooda/Bulbapedia%20stuff/) (That's my Photobucket!) [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 12:10, 28 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Oh, you're Jarooda? Did not know. Um, the first and the fourth are good. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 12:14, 28 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::What should I name them in Bulbagarden Archives? [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 12:35, 28 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::The second and the third actually have smoother edges, but this your call, Trom. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 12:38, 28 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::Did it. What do you guys think? [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 01:50, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::I guess they do, but I liked the dragons' poses better in the first and fourth :/ &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 10:21, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Useful source? ==<br />
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I accidentally came across this website which appears to reveal the trademarked romanji of the 646 'official' Pokémon as of now, as well as some insight on to their name origins. Is this official? --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 09:36, 8 November 2010 (UTC) [http://park3.wakwak.com/~pokepale/zukan/no/1_1_25.htm]<br />
:It's a fan site I think, like it says on the main page "This site is Japanese Pokemon Fan Site.". [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 09:41, 8 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 09:44, 8 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Why some classics arent in the regionnal dex ==<br />
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some classics (magicarp, pikachu, geodude, abra, etc.) dont appear in isshu. why?<br />
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I think thats because they are far away from kanto/jotho/hoenn/sinnoh. maybe the pokemons of gen5 will be the standards for 3 other gens. {{unsigned|Grhaal0}}<br />
:Game Freak has already stated that the reason old Pokémon aren't included is to give all players a fresh, new experience when playing the games. Your suggestion is speculation, which is rarely allowed and certainly doesn't take precedence over [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Wordofgod word of god]. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 15:28, 8 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
::That brings up the question of "Why did they include old Pokemon at all". Surely a new game, set supposedly in a place half the globe away from previous games wouldn't have all these old Pokemon found in it.--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 16:22, 9 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::I've already explained to you Mackinz, the real world has some species which live in far away places (see rats, mosquitoes, etc.). I don't mean to offend, but if you're trying to bring up another debate over Isshu's basis/motif, this isn't the place. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 21:27, 9 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Not trying to start a debate. Just can't figure out for the life of me why Paras would be in New York. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 20:12, 10 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::Guys this disscussion needs to go to the forums. Stop cluttering the talk page. Please and Thank you [[User:Pokemaster97|Pokemaster97]] 20:16, 10 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
== New Catchable Pokémon from Old Generations==<br />
You know, a lot of Pokémon in these games, although from previous generations, is the first time they are catchable in the wild (without hacks, of course), like Metagross, Kingdra, Mamoswine, Crobat, etc. Is that worth noting? [[User:TFSpock|TFSpock]] 00:47, 4 December 2010 (UTC)TFSpock<br />
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== Wrong Pokémon Count ==<br />
I find this page is within the category page of Generation V Pokémon. I post here, though, since this affects the number of new Pokémon in the summary of Generation V (the one that has the screenshot, main games, region introduced, etc).<br />
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:SLE_aman/fanhax<br />
- [[User:Chaotic iak|Chaotic iak]] 05:26, 7 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:That page was using templates which categorise. I've replaced them with ones that don't categorise or replaced them with the relevant hardcode and removed the categories. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 05:49, 7 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Live Caster ==<br />
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Can anyone explain what it is? It's not in the article. --[[User:BeeBwakka|<span style="color:#52D017">Bee § Bwakka♂</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:BeeBwakka|<span style="color:#157DEC">meh talk</span>]])''</small> 02:24, 8 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Bulbapedia has [[Live Caster|a separate article for it]]. The basic information about it can be found there. --[[User:RiverAura|<font color="#00CCFF">River</font>]][[User_Talk:RiverAura|<font color="#00FFCC">Aura</font>]] 20:36, 15 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Alterations from Generation IV==<br />
Shouldn't the removal of Curse be moved from the "Trivia" section to the "Alterations from Gen IV" section? [[User:U2kheim|U2kheim]] 20:12, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Wait a sec, what? Did you mean, the ???-type? Also, is it neccessary? --[[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 13:33, 15 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Yes because it is an official elemental type. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 17:11, 15 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Thematic Motif? ==<br />
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When will the thematic motif for this generation be written? --[[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><font color="red">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><small><font color="yellow">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]]''' 22:18, 16 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Because, I'm assuming they're added after the release of the next generation. --[[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><font color="red">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><small><font color="yellow">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]]''' 01:33, 19 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
::They were all added by one user quite recently. It's a new thing; no one's written the Gen V one yet. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 07:04, 19 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Timescale between generations ==<br />
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i know there isn't an official timescale between BW and HGSS/DPPt (as HGSS/DPPt is 3 years ahead of FRLG and Ruby/Sapphire) but the page states that there must be a significant difference because the Rocket grunt who was seen in HGSS now has a son, however, Cynthia (DPPt) and Looker (Pt) are NPC's in Black and White too and don't appear to have aged much or at all (in comparison to Misty between FRLG and HGSS), so could it be possible that the grunt already had a son who grew up to be a Schoolboy trainer in a timespace of less than 3 years or slightly more? couldn't this mean that the time between HGSS and BW could be shorter than implied on the page? [[User:Azure42|Azure42]] 15:32, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Cynthia and Looker are much older, so they age much less. The older Gym leaders from FRLG didn't change that much in HGSS. Misty was going through puberty, so her aging would be much clearer. Regardless, I believe that that Rocket Grunt said that he met his wife soon after returning home, meaning that his son was not born in HGSS. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 01:39, 19 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
::It's highly likely to be 11 years - GSC was three years after RGB, RGB were released in 1996, with GS exactly three years later. BW were released 11 years after GS, and since RS happens at the same time as RGB and DP happens at the same time as GS, for the remakes' sake. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:04, 1 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Yes but Caitin is already young in Platinum-HGSS. Maybe she is in her 20s or her early 30s. Yet, in Black and White she still appears to be young (maybe in her late 30s). So an eleven year gap seems to be too big. {{unsigned|Didich}}<br />
::::People can't have a very similar appearance for years. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 17:37, 4 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::You'd be surprised how little some people change over the years. My brother, for instance, has hardly changed in appearance in nearly 15 years. And let's not forget our famous [[Ash Ketchum|in-universe]] example. <br />
:::::In regards to Caitlin, she honestly looks a lot younger than 20 in PtHGSS. Her exact age, however, is debatable. --'''[[User:Darkeiya|<span style="color:#FF6600">Darkeiya</span>]]''' <small>''[[User talk:Darkeiya|<span style="color:#00CCFF">talk to me!</span>]]''</small> 10:40, 14 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::Mind if I join in the conversation? You said that the Team Rocket grunt met his wife/already having the child during the time of GSC/HGSS/DPPt. A school child would be at least 4 years old, no? So let's say 4 - 5 years? By the way, where is this Rocket Grunt? [[User:Chocos0|Chocos0]] 19:39, 23 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::::Before you join in a conversation, it can be worth it to check the timestamp. The last comment was in January. Secondly, I think this discussion is pointless, anyway: we're not going to get at a definite answer by guessing at people's ages. And thirdly, he's in Icirrus City. You can only get to his house in the winter, however. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 20:09, 23 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Sorry, I didn't know there was a rule, or not encouraged, to continue an out of date conversation. But okay then. [[User:Chocos0|Chocos0]] 04:40, 24 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Kanto ==<br />
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why's it say this is the only Generation not to include Kanto? wouldn't something like that be better saved for after this Generation is over?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 23:33, 27 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Currently it is true. If this changes in the future, so will the trivia. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 07:38, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
::alright--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 07:52, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Running Shoes (Changes from Generation IV) ==<br />
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is it worth putting that the running shoes have returned to just pressing B in contrast to in HGSS when it could be automatically be put on using the button on the touch screen? or is it just useless trivia? [[User:Azure42|Azure42]] 17:27, 2 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Debut ==<br />
I noticed on the "Debut" part of the page it says "March 6 2011" - the U.S. release date. As it's under the "En" tag (obviously for "English") and the European release is 4th March 2011, should that be changed to reflect the EU release date? Although the majority of the fandom are American, it is the English premiere, or a third option be added? {{unsigned|Ryu Shoji}}<br />
:It should really be first English, not first US. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 15:08, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::We use US dates for everything else, I don't see why this should be any different even if it is two days before. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 16:17, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Maybe we should add {{tt|*|March 6 in US}}?----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#BF0B17">DENNOU</font>]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#1250A6">ZENSHI</font>]] 16:25, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::The thing says English, so we should use the first English date. The only reason US dates are used for everything else is because they are usually first ([[The Legend of Thunder!|but not always]]). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 01:23, 11 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::The European date is when the English-speaking world begins Generation V. If the date has not been changed already, I will update it (this is the date we're counting down to on the Main Page/when all the info will be out, after all). &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 03:14, 13 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Catching Pokemon at a certain time of day ==<br />
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Can someone confirm if this has been removed? As it would certainly seem to be. <small><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:blue; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span></small> 15:01, 31 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Yes; time of day-based encounter rate differences don't appear in the game data.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#BF0B17">DENNOU</font>]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#1250A6">ZENSHI</font>]] 15:07, 31 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== New standards ==<br />
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I find some odd matches for gen I-V. Timburr, Dangoro and Woobat share traits with machop, geodude and zubat. <br />
What if Gen V acts Like a new Gen I, that will provide Gen VI and up with reccuring pokemons (Magicarp, Geodude, Abra, Machop and Pikachu (and probably others) appears in all Generations I to IV) that will be "standards" for the next games?<br />
Gen III seemed like a reboot for fans, maybe they tried then, and now they made it here.Maybe... [[User:Grhaal|Grhaal]] 01:49, 12 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Some fans have speculated that. We'll see what the future will be like. It'll be interesting. --[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 19:40, 12 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Trivia-new system ==<br />
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This is the second time (not the first) that a new generation of pokemon didnt start on a new system, while gold and silver had exclusive features when played on the GBC (playing in color), they were still playable on GB and GB pocket (cyrstal was the first game that required the GBC). Just as this duo of games can be played on DS, but when played on DSi or 3DS, these games also have exclusive features (the Xtransceiver only works on DSi and 3DS, but NOT on original DS/DS lite systems)<br />
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To say its the first time not to move to the next console at launch is misleading and untrue.<br />
:[[File:Silver EN boxart.jpg|thumb|300px]]<br />
:Box clearly says ''Game Boy Colour''. The games just happen to be backwards compatible. <small><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:blue; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span></small> 01:30, 17 February 2011 (UTC0)<br />
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the game cart is clearly a GB cart (notice the thumb grip goes in and says "Nintedo GameBoy" not out like a GBC cart) [http://gamesdbase.com/Media/SYSTEM/Nintendo_Game_Boy_Color/Cart/big/Pokemon-_Gold_Version_-_2000_-_Nintendo.jpg example of GB cart]<br />
[http://lh3.ggpht.com/_fLtECJziqZI/SkqTt2PlFOI/AAAAAAAABmE/Ciwhrs2IL8E/HPIM1556.JPG example of GBC cart]<br />
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== Young trainer ==<br />
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Its obvious that "young trainer" is the player from D/P/Pt.--[[User:Grhaal|Grhaal]] 12:28, 25 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Non-Event Trivia ==<br />
Is it worth noting the Generation V introduced the same number of non-event Pokémon as Generation I (150)? --[[User:Jimmyduckegg|Jimmyduckegg]] 18:01, 4 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I don't think so. Victini is counted as an event Pokémon. With the unofficial Keldeo, Meloetta, and Genesect, that makes 156 - 4 = 152 non-event Pokémon. I have a ready list of all Generation V Pokémon for reference, and that indeed appears to be the case... [[User:Haxorus|Haxorus]] 14:22, 17 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
::I think JDE was considering Zorua and Zoroark event Pokémon. Would it be correct to consider them that? After all, the only ways to get those two are through an event, or from someone else who has through trading or GTS. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 22:50, 17 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Lock ==<br />
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I believe this page should be locked due to this[http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Dengeki_DS_announces_new_Pok%C3%A9mon_game]. Anyone agree?[[User:ShinyPikachu|<span><font color="#E9AB17">Shiny</font></span>]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|<span><font color="#FFFC17">Pikachu</font></span>]] 17:38, 23 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I think we should wait until people actually start doing editing the page. [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 17:54, 23 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Han is correct. If something goes wrong, then it will be protected, but for now, there is no reason to worry. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange;">Jello</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b> 17:57, 23 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Okay thanks Han and Jello. I wasn't sure, though. When something "Big" like this is 'revealed', a lot of people overreact. [[User:ShinyPikachu|<span><font color="#E9AB17">Shiny</font></span>]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|<span><font color="#FFFC17">Pikachu</font></span>]] 18:04, 23 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Gym Leaders?==<br />
Is it accurate to say this is the first generation for which there is more than one Gym Leader per town within the same game? (Or something less awkwardly phrased.) I noticed it wasn't in the section so.... Am I forgetting someone? [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 22:15, 17 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Tate and Liza from Hoenn. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 22:26, 17 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
::They fight as a unit, though. It's still the first time you could fight one of two or three Gym Leader units depending on your game or your starter. I'm not sure what the best way to phrase it would be. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 14:17, 20 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::[[Sootopolis Gym]]. Leader depends on version. You could also argue [[Fuchsia Gym]] and [[Viridian Gym]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 14:32, 20 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::Given, the user who started this chain mentioned more than one leader within the ''same'' game; Tate and Liza were the first of this kind, I do believe. Cilan, Chili and Cress (discounting Iris and Drayden, because, as I've stated, the parameters for this are ''within the same game'') are not trailblazers. [[User:Sadistic Blaziken|<font color="Purple">Puppy</font>]] of [[User talk:Sadistic Blaziken|<font color="Red">Doom</font>]] and [[Poochyena (Pokémon)|<font color="Blue">Destruction</font>]] 14:40, 20 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::I'm the same user, I don't know why I brought up the version thing the second time. I was mostly wondering about Cilan, Chili, and Cress, but I didn't think about Tate and Liza. Thank you! [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 14:45, 20 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== All Pure Types ==<br />
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Someone can add that trivia:<br />
Generation V is the only generation that introduce all pure types with at least one pokémon<br />
Sorry for my bad english! {{unsigned|Shocker}}<br />
:Sorry, but there is a current ban on trivia at the moment so it can not be added. Also please sign all comments with 4 <nowiki>~~~~~</nowiki>. Thank you! [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 21:15, 12 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Eevee Evolutions and the Safari Zone ==<br />
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There are not new forms of either of these. Should that be included on the page? {{unsigned|PowerPlantRaichu}}<br />
:Added [[User:AquaMaster|AquaMaster]] 15:20, 2 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== gym leaders from previous generations ==<br />
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due to the fact that most, if not all the gym leaders and champions will be appearing in black 2 and white 2, should we add gen 5 to all their lists of generations --[[User:Themudkipman|Themudkipman]] 18:38, 14 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
:I think it is best to wait until we see confirmation of the individual before putting it in their article. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:31, 16 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
:: well yes, but all the kanto gym leaders and S.Stone are confirmed, should we change them? --[[User:Themudkipman|Themudkipman]] 16:49, 17 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::Yes. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 15:27, 19 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Challenge, Normal and Assist Mode ==<br />
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I don't particularly know what they are; whether you can select which mode you can play at the beginning or whatnot, but a alterable difficulty level is something that is new to Pokemon entirely, shouldn't it be in 'Advances in Gameplay'? [[User:Azure42|Azure/ChromeVoid42]] ([[User talk:Azure42|talk]]) 18:24, 15 July 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Going by what previous generations had, a "Further Advancements Made in Black 2 & White 2" (or something like that) section should be added to the Generation V page and have Challenge & Assist Mode, possibly among other things. [[User:Torpoleon|Torpoleon]] ([[User talk:Torpoleon|talk]]) 20:59, 15 July 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokéstar Studios and World tournament as an advancement? ==<br />
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Really? How is that an advancement in Pokémon? I'd say its an region exclusive thing. The World tournament maybe...I don't think that the Pokéstar studios should be included as an advancement. Does anyone else agree with me? - [[User:Clubchloe1|<span style="color:#00A000;">'''Club'''</span>]][[User talk:Clubchloe1|<span style="color:#0000A0;">'''chloe1'''</span>]] 19:42, 11 October 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Ruby and Sapphire remakes? ==<br />
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In the last paragraph of the intro, it mentions the fabled remakes. Nothing is on Bulbanews or the Twitter feed. What is this? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 11:26, 23 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Never mind. It was just put on a year late. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 11:28, 23 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, it's old news. Old speculatory news based on him saying he liked the third Generation games. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 11:31, 23 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
== Shortest Generation in English Speaking Territories? ==<br />
In the article, it says that Generation V was the shortest generation in Englist speaking Territories, when that is not true.<br />
Gen 1-746 Days<br />
Gen 2-885 Days<br />
Gen 3-1495 Days<br />
Gen 4-1412 Days<br />
Gen 5-953 Days at end.<br />
If anything, Gen 2 is shortest. Can I fix that?--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 16:07, 2 September 2013 (UTC)</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Generation_V&diff=1961751Talk:Generation V2013-09-02T16:07:31Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Ruby and Sapphire remakes? */</p>
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<div>==Any References?==<br />
With the impending release of [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver]] in America, can someone keep an eye out for any in-game references to Gen. V? Much appreciated. [[User:The Jigglypuff Ninja|The Jigglypuff Ninja]] 01:04, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I doubt there are any references to Gen V in HGSS. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 01:09, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::And I ''highly'' doubt that NoA would change the script to add such references in. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sup>❄</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sub>❅</sub></span>]]</span> 01:09, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Any references will probably be in the new Ranger game. Although the Lock Capsule is probably related to something in Generation V.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 01:11, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::It's a Gen IV event item. Likely gonna be for a Gen IV event. Think: what hasn't been released yet? Could be Celebi... '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#80964B">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C4E673">chidna</span>]]''' 03:04, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::At the risk of dragging this out too far (this is quickly becoming something that'd fit on the forums), hackers would have found a Celebi Event in the coding, but no one has. Add in that PokeBeach reports that it seems to have similar transfer data as the Manaphy Egg, and it seems like it's supposed to be transferred out of HGSS into a new game... but I digress. We have no proof either way.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 05:03, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::The question is... how would it be obtained in the first place? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#80964B">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C4E673">chidna</span>]]''' 07:40, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Jumping the Gun a bit?==<br />
Are you guys sure we aren't looking into this a bit too far? All we have for clues are that they announced a new game and a new *something*. Not to mention it says it's gonna be new on the DS. What's to be sure of all of that? For all we know, the new game could be MindCrystal, the silhouette could be a new Forme like the last 5 that were announced. The new game could be a wii sequel to Pokemon XD:Gale of Darkness. If we can't even have Pokemon evolved editing pages when they're in the titles of episodes, why can we just up and announce a new generation? I mean, Pokebeach even said the silhouette isn't Z, what makes anyone certain it's Generation V?[[User:SLE_aman|SLE_]][[User:SLE_aman/talk|aman]] 11:53, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:What does Pokebeach have to do with anything? We know this is Gen V because Masuda SAID it is a new Pokémon. Nothing in this article says that this Pokémon is Z. Because we don't know that. All we know is that it is a new Pokémon. To think otherwise... well, you're in denial big time. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 12:14, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::The original announcement talked about the popularity of Diamond and Pearl before saying this game will be set in a new region with new Pokémon. What more evidence do you need? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 12:36, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Well, technically, the RPG announcement never explicitly said it would be main series. Even though Generation V Pokémon were hinted, it was never explicitly said that it was the full-fledged generation. It also never explicitly said it would be a pair, either. There are RPGs other than the main series, and they could use a side-series RPG to give Generation V-based cameos to increase anticipation for the full-fledged generation to come at a later date (much like Mystery Dungeon 1 did). Recent announcements pretty much excludes the possibility of it being a Ranger 4, but it's still possible that it could be a Mystery Dungeon 5 or something completely different than anything we've seen before. My [[$1|2¢]]: Odds are the TBA 2010 thing is not for the full-fledged Generation V. Especially if the RPG announcement turns out to be for a single. They've faked us out before, and even if the silhouette does turn out legitimate, it's probably still too early to be thinking full-fledged Generation V. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:19, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::Actually, I've seen a subb'ed version. Masuda specifically said "We're working on a new generation of pokémon" --[[User:Camzoman]]<br />
::::Yeah. And nowhere in that did it explicitly say that was the TBA 2010 project. They can be working on a new generation of Pokémon, yet still announce and release side games relating mainly to the previous generation. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 19:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::Camzoman, where exactly did you see this subbed version? I did not hear Masuda mention a "new generation" anywhere in the video - what he said was "we're developing a brand-new work for Pokemon." However, I don't think there's any denying at this point that it is indeed the new generation. The [http://www.corocoro.tv/pokerelease/index.html Corocoro site] doesn't seem to be implying that this is a side game (not that Game Freak makes side games to begin with). It's a new version(s), with a new setting, new Pokemon, new features... sounds like a new generation to me. :/ <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sup>❄</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sub>❅</sub></span>]]</span> 19:54, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::Japanese doesn't have a plural so the "he only said one" argument doesn't hold. [[n:New Pokémon RPG announced|Just look at the information we have]]. It's obviously Generation V. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 12:12, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Anyway, the CoroCoro scans for Zoroark fit the silhouette from Pokémon Sunday.--[[User:Crazylegs24]]<br />
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== Why is this page protected? ==<br />
Why is this page protected? --[[User:?????|Any]] [[User talk:?????|Questions]][[User:?????|?????]] 18:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Think about it.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#003366">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#8C92AC">''Blue''</span>]]''' 18:37, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::<nowiki>*</nowiki>cough*Speculation*cough* [[User:CuboneKing|<font color="Red">Cu</font>]][[User talk:CuboneKing|<font color="Tan">bo</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|<font color="Green color light">ne</font>]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|<font color="Black">King</font>]] 18:41, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Because someone is 100% likely going to put what they think the new Pokémon is, probably saying it's Mightyena's evolution or something, if it isn't protected. That is speculation, something that isn't allowed here in the mainspace. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 22:21, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::It is not a good sign when a question like this needs to be asked.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We are the Void 22:43, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::That against us or against the users who'd make crappy speculative edits? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#80964B">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C4E673">chidna</span>]]''' 03:22, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::It's against users who don't realise why it should be protected...--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We lie in wait...... 14:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::::...same thing? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#80964B">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C4E673">chidna</span>]]''' 04:29, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Arguable.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We lie in wait...... 13:13, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Would it not be better to make this page "semi-protected" so that only established users can edit? There are plenty of established users who are not administrators, whom I'm sure would want to contribute to such a monumental article. [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 09:55, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:That wouldn't stop speculation from incurring. If you have any confirmed evidence, ask for it here.--[[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 10:12, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Generation V Pokémon Infobox, anyone? ==<br />
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I know you'll probably all find this pointless, but I decided to throw together a {{redlink|Template:PokémonInfoboxGenV|temporary infobox}} to use for the Generation V Pokémon articles. It's basically a stripped-down version of the regular infobox that leaves out all the fields for any technical stuff (Egg groups, EXP yield, Gender ratios, etc.) that's unlikely to be revealed until ''Pokémon V'' comes out later this year. I also created a [[User:Quagbert/Z (Pokémon)|user-subpage for the silhouetted mystery Pokémon]] that uses a {{redlink|Template:PokémonInfoboxGenVNoncat|non-categorizing version}} of this template. <br />
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''Thanks to {{u|PsychicRider}} for making me aware of the original non-categorizing Pokémon infobox.'' [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 00:49, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Masamitsu Hidaka==<br />
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Should [[Masamitsu Hidaka]] be mentioned since that interview kind of confirmed Generation V? --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 05:50, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Unlink ==<br />
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Can somebody please unlink "Generation V Pokémon"? It's a redlink right now. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 13:52, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== This just in! ==<br />
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Serebii.net just confirmed the first two Fifth Generation Pokémon! Go check it out! :) --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 14:21, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Serebii.net didn't. Leaked scans did. Also, the first one was already revealed. The second one was revealed to be before it in their evolutionary line. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:22, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I think yu're probably going to need to find this information from another source. It seems like the users here have some sort of vendetta against Serebii.--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 14:29, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::It is officially confirmed. It was from a different source. It was from scans. You can see bulbanews's draft. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::We don't have any vendetta against Serebii. He just isn't the source in this case - CoroCoro is. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 15:01, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Either way, it's confirmed right? I'd love to update the page, but it's locked. *ahem* <br />
''[[User:Chosen|<span style="color:#F85888">Chosen</span>]] <span style="color:#6890F0">of</span> [[User talk:Chosen|<span style="color:#F8D030">Mana</span>]]'' [[User:Chosen|-]] 15:15, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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[[File:CoroCoro March 1.jpg|thumb]]<br />
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Here's the picture! --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 15:19, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Alright, these two Pokémon have been offically confirmed by the leaked CoroCoro scans, but apparently it's still considered too early to put up the Bulbapedia articles for them. Is there some additional form of conformation that we're waiting for? <br />
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Anyway, I already have {{p|Zorua}} and {{p|Zoroark}} in my userspace ready to be moved to the main space when we're finally allowed to do so. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 17:07, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:It's probably due to lack of information. I assume that when its ability/abilities and/or base stats are revealed it will be moved. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 17:16, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::IIRC, none of that sort of information (especially base stats) was revealed for the Generation IV Pokémon until the actual release of Diamond/Pearl, or shortly before, though we still had mainspace articles for them anyway. This means it'd be months before we move Zorua/Zoroark into the mainspace. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 17:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Actually, according to serebii, they're supposed to be revealed next month. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 18:45, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Related Pokémon ==<br />
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On the page, it says that it has noteable links with the Riolu and Poochyena families. If it's definitely pure dark type then just ignore this, but couldn't it be an alternative to the Vulpix family? --[[User:Herachu|Herachu]] 22:07, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
: I agree. --[[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|i herd u liek Treakos?]] 00:10, 12 February 2010 (UTC) [[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|Kimori-]][[User talk:Kimori-Hinoarashi|Hinoarashi]]<br />
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== New Pokémon template ==<br />
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Based partly on the {{template|DP episode}} template, I've decided to make a [[Template:NewPokémon|new Pokémon template]] to use the next time a new Pokémon is revealed. The code would go like this:<br />
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{{subst:NewPokémon|main|Jp. Katakana name|Romanized Jp. name|<br />
typen= (number of types) |<br />
type1= (first type) |<br />
type2= (second type) |<br />
pron= (name's pronunciation) |<br />
jspecies= (species in Japanese) |<br />
species= (species, aka "____ Pokémon")<br />
image= (filename of image) |<br />
caption= (caption for said image) |<br />
height-m= (height in meters) |<br />
weight-kg= (weight in kilograms) |<br />
prev= (previous Pokémon's (i.e. pre-evolution) name, Arceus by default) |<br />
prevnum= (previous Pokémon's National Dex #, 493 by default) |<br />
next= (next Pokémon's (i.e. evolved form) name, Bulbasaur by default) |<br />
nextnum= (next Pokémon's National Dex #, 001 by default) |<br />
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Those who want to use this template for their own userspace should replace "main" in the top line with "user", so that those user sub-pages aren't categorized with the genuine Pokémon articles in the main space. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 01:04, 12 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Take away part in introduction ==<br />
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It says that it is unknown whether the new games will be contemporaneous with any of the other games. I beg to differ. Pokemon Sunday officially stated that Zoroark lives in a "New Area". Or is it just saying that it is unknown whether it will be possible to travel to another region? Spenfen<br />
:Contemporaneous means at the same time. Like how RBY and RSE are at the same time, and so is GSC and DPPt. It has nothing to do with location.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 18:08, 15 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Japanese Gen. 5 page ==<br />
I have a good link to a japanese page on the Generation 5 games here: [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/game/g100215_03.html].--[[User:Christopher Costello|Christopher Costello]] 01:14, 20 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:That's kinda where we got all of our information. Pokémon.co.jp and the Japanese Pokémon variety shows. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#80964B">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C4E673">chidna</span>]]''' 03:41, 22 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Interwiki link to Pokéteca ==<br />
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Now that there's an article about [[:es:Quinta Generación|Generation V on Pokéteca]], can someone add it the interwiki link to it, please? --[[User:Blaziken257|<span style="color:#F08030;">'''Blaz'''</span>]][[User talk:Blaziken257|<span style="color:#C03028;">'''iken'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Blaziken257|<span style="color:#302000;">'''257'''</span>]] 03:19, 24 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Two New Generation V Pokémon Scan !!! ==<br />
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Hey guys, I got this '''EPIC''' magazine scan featuring two new evolutions of Delibird and Farfetch'd from Generation V and it seems 100% real. {{unsigned|Adyniz}}<br />
:It's not. Notice how I protected the hell out of those names ''before Zoroark and Zorua were revealed''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#80964B">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C4E673">chidna</span>]]''' 07:08, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Does that mean this scan is a fake one? --<span style="color:#00FF00">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#6699FF;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#99CCFF;">'''Niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#00FF00">♪♫</span> 07:11, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::The screenshot is obviously fake if you couldn't tell. That should have given it away easily. So yes, it is fake. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange">Jel</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#90a8e0;">lo</span>]]</b> 07:29, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Lol, man I am dumb.<br />
::::'''Source''': http://www.pokemondarkay.net/{{unsigned|Adyniz}}<br />
:::::Looks pretty real. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 11:00, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::Well it may look real but I've seen things in my days done in Photoshop that looked very real. Can someone translate or is there even any legit source? I don't read Spanish nor Japanese. <b>[[User:.insomniac.|<font color="#FFC125">inso</font>]]<font color="#CC1100">m</font>[[User_talk:.insomniac.|<font color="#E0DFDB">niac</font></b>]] 11:05, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Since it's already been confirmed as fake, please take further discussion regarding the scan to the {{tt|forums|Not the Bulbapedia forum.}}. Thanks, - [[User:Kogoro|<span style="color:#DA70D6;">'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>'''</span>]] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|<span style="color:#FFB6C1;">'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>'''</span>]] - 11:08, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Nintendo 3DS]] ==<br />
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It's very likely that these new games will be on the 3DS, so can someone remove the statement saying that the games ''will'' be released on the regular DS?--'''[[User:Immewnity|<span style="color:#88AADD">''immewnity''</span>]][[User talk:Immewnity|<span style="color:#627DB7">the</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|<span style="color:#335577">mew</span>]]''' 00:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:[[Generation II]] ahoy. The press release said DS. Not 3DS. 3DS comes out NEXT YEAR. These come out THIS YEAR. Nintendo's not ''stupid''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:54, 3 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::It could be released before Christmas in Japan so there is the potential for the game to be on 3DS. But that's purely guesswork at the moment and it could still be a DS game even if the 3DS is implemented so we go with the only source on the matter - the original announcement which said it will be on the DS. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 11:27, 3 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Or, as in Generation II, the games could be programmed with 3DS enhancements, yet still be playable on the DS. Nonetheless, until something official states that they will utilize the 3DS, any mention of it is speculation at best. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 14:23, 3 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::Technically, TTEchidna, the page that announced the 3DS stated that it would be released sometime between now and next April, so that doesn't mean next year.<br />
[[User:DarthMartian7|DarthMartian7]] 23:50, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Current Length ==<br />
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The days have weird numbers, can an administrator fix them? Thanks. [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 21:23, 9 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:They're automatically calculated by the template... &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 06:38, 10 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::But the games haven't been released yet. I think it's too early to say that Generation V has started. [[User:Fudgenuggets|Fudgenuggets]] 22:16, 10 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::It hasn't started yet. It starts in 0.8 days according to those numbers. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 03:22, 11 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::It's because it's calculated weirdly. Once we have a ''date'', we'll put that in, and it'll look right. Until then, DECIMALLLLLLLLLL '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:34, 22 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Uploaded player sprite ==<br />
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[[File:Hilbert OD.png]]<br />
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I got the player sprite and uploaded it to the archives... I guess if someone can find a place for it on the article, well, there it is!<br />
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Actually, now that I see them side-by-side, it looks like the front-facing sprite on the left is the male character while the right-facing sprite on the right is the female character. Any ideas? - [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] 02:01, 23 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:1) This is the article for Gen V in general, not just Black and White.<br />
:2) Do we have the overworld sprites from the past games anywhere? The characters themselves will get articles eventually but we will hopefully have Sugimori artwork released around the time that happens. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 23:09, 23 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::We do, but... mostly fronts. And those are animated. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:02, 24 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Well, I'm sure there's a home for those sprites... right? :) - [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] 06:58, 26 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== About the day count... ==<br />
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You should set it to zero, I'm not sure we'll have Pokémon B&W in -0.840277777778 days. --[[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]] 12:53, 30 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:But we all wish we did... [[User:Thermorules123|Thermorules123]] 11:32, 2 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::You mean you didn't get your game 0.840277777778 days ago? Never mind, I hacked the template to make it say better stuff. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 12:10, 2 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::As long as you didn't break the template on the other four generations. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:56, 4 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::I'm fairly certain I didn't. Fixed it through an optional extra parameter. Seeing as the parameter doesn't exist on the other four pages, nothing should have broken. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 05:19, 7 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Gen 4 compatability ==<br />
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Shouldn't it be noted that this has been confirmed? (The upcoming Flare Blitz Entei and co can do something in gen 5) {{unsigned|Deuxhero}}<br />
:makes sense, but since it's not officially confirmed, {{tt|we can't include it.|That's Bulbapedia's standard.}} [[User:ShinyPikachu|<span><font color="#E9AB17">Shiny</font></span>]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|<span><font color="#FFFC17">Pikachu</font></span>]] 12:44, 7 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::What do you mean, it hasn't been officially confirmed? It's been confirmed that the shiny legendary gerbils unlock something in BW, meaning that they are transferable to aforementioned games. Serebii.net reported on this last month. Oh wait, let me guess- Serebii.net isn't what you consider a reliable source despite only being wrong about stuff they explicitly said they weren't sure about in the first place. We also didn't add all the english names for all the HGSS stuff until it came out and proved him right. When are you guys gonna swallow your pride and admit that Serebii.net is probably the most reliable source of Pokémon information in the internet? <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 14:01, 7 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::''The most reliable source of Pokémon information in the internet?'', {{tt|Hahahaha, I don't think so|I don't want to go off-topic otherwise it will be long debate}}. Anyway, wait for an official announcement before doing/adding anything. <span style="color:#FF0">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#00FA9A;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#9F9;">'''Niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#FF0">♪♫</span> 14:16, 7 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::If I recall though it was indeed confirmed by an official source that the legendary beasts could unlock something in BW... apparently someone got their hands on the pamphlet that you get for pre-ordering the ticket and it states that the beasts unlock stuff in BW. Not sure if there's a scan of it anywhere though, I would refrain from putting it on the page if it's just his personal speculation again. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|<span style="color:#e072a9;">ティナ</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Tina|<span style="color:#728084;">♫</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|<span style="color:#728084;">★</span>]]</sup> 15:50, 7 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::If it is added, be sure not to assume HOW the games are compatible; it's possible they could unlock something through a method other than trading or transferring. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 14:22, 9 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::Just as a clarification, an official site has yet to specifically state "generation 4 can trade in some way with generation 5". The pamphlet in question can be seen in entirety [http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/image/tickets/print/guide.pdf here]. On page 3 there is a small section that talks about Pokemon Black/White and the last sentence of that section mentions that the 3 have a secret. This was taken to mean that the 3 unlock something in B/W obviously because it is mentioned inside the B/W section and therefore probably are able to be traded to Gen 5 in some way. Anyways, that was the logic behind "Gen 4 and 5 compatibility confirmed." Whether that is a good enough reason to be added on here or not, I don't know :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 16:39, 9 May 2010 (UTC))<br />
:::::::There's ''also'' that little issue of them being ON THE DS. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:54, 11 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
I get the concept of compatability with Gen4 but whats going to happen to the Pokedex when you get aGen5 Pokemon on a Gen4 game?([[User: Munchy Lax]] 20:33,3 June 2010 (EST)<br />
:Well you obviously won't be able to take anything that wasn't in Gen IV back to a gen IV game. If it's a direct trade then it'll be like the time capsule in generation II. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</sc> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 00:44, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Starters ==<br />
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Here's the image from Pokémon Sunday: [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 01:49, 9 May 2010 (UTC) [[File:PokéSun May09 10.png|thumb|right]]<br />
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I can guess that the Grass Type is a Bird of Parodise Pokemon, as in the plant 'Bird of Parodise,' and also they had already done Bird based starters for [[Torchic|Fire]] and [[Piplup|Water]], and not yet Grass. If this could be true when revealed, then it will certainly complete the Bird Starters just like the Lizard Starters of [[Treeko|Grass]],[[Charmander|Fire]] and [[Totodile|Water]]. <br />
The Fire Type could may as well be a piglet for it's curley tail, and the Water Type could be another Amphibian Pokemon like [[Mudkip]]. These are just guesses, but what do you think? [[User:Cynthia149]] 17:07, 9 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I think that you need to take your speculation to the forums. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|<sup style="color:#00008B;">'''Maverick'''</sup>]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|<sub style="color:#00008B;">'''Nate'''</sub>]]'' 16:35, 9 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Just for the heck of it, I have a [[User:Quagbert/No.494 (Pokémon)|draft article for the Grass starter]], which I created using the template I mentioned above. I also have startup code to create the Fire and Water starters' articles using this same template, if anyone's interested:<br />
<pre><br />
Fire Starter:<br />
{{subst:NewPokémon|main|日本語名|JP Name<br />
|species=<br />
|typen=1|type1=Fire<br />
|image=<br />
|art=<!--BW-->|caption=Scan from [[CoroCoro]]<br />
|height-m=<br />
|weight-kg=<br />
|prev=(grass starter)|next=water starter)}}<br />
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Water Starter:<br />
{{subst:NewPokémon|main|日本語名|JP Name<br />
|species=<br />
|typen=1|type1=Water<br />
|image=<br />
|art=<!--BW-->|caption=Scan from [[CoroCoro]]<br />
|height-m=<br />
|weight-kg=<br />
|prev=(fire starter)|next=Zorua}}<br />
</pre><br />
[[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 01:19, 10 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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For the curious, from left to right its the Grass-type, the Fire-type, and the Water-type. [http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/05/12/mystery_pokemon_detailed/ Here]. Still no names or pics other though. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 14:29, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:There's this great site called Bulbanews that has already reported that information - and with pictures, too! <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 16:54, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Excuuuuse me for not noticing. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 18:07, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== "Both are canine Pokémon," ==<br />
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By which the article presumably means ''vulpine''; canine refers to dogs but Zoroa and Zoroark are/will be fox Pokémon. [[User:Smithers888|Smithers888]] 04:10, 10 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Foxes are canine. Ish. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:09, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canidae - Canini and Vulpini are separate members of Canidae --[[User:Grinnz|Grinnz]] 18:59, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::: I had something but might as well just ask. Aren't dogs actually Lupine, if we're going Vulpine for foxes.--[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 19:05, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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isnt lupine for wolves Iirc ([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:27, 12 May 2010 (UTC))<br />
: Dogs are in the same family as wolves. Canis Lupus, the dog is only further distinguished by Canis Lupis familiaris. But even still Canine could refer to Canidae which is what Foxes/Dogs/wolves are in. The only difference is Foxes are further classified as "Vulpine" and if we follow suit, dogs/wolves would be Lupine not Canine. And it did say some foxes (while not true foxes) could still be under the Canis Genus if that's where the Canine name comes from. But again while Canine might refer to dogs specifically, isn't that more of a general consensus, rather than a scientific consensus? I'm going scientific here, if people want to be so correct with the whole Vulpine/Canine argument. -[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 19:36, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Who cares, really. That section'll be gone by the end of the year. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:56, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Older PCs ==<br />
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[http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/05/12/mystery_pokemon_detailed/ Apparently], artwork shown in Coro Coro comics indicates that the Player characters aren't kids like previous generations, but are a bit older and appear to be young adults. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 14:31, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== well heres the pics ==<br />
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I have a corocoro scan of the player characters.....<br />
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([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:17, 12 May 2010 (UTC))<br />
:The scan is from Pokebeach. I think we'd prefer it if it was your own scan. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange">Jel</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#90a8e0;">lo</span>]]</b> 18:25, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Well, the beach is our buddy, too. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:24, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== New Pokémon? ==<br />
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I found this online. It has the Pokémon Sunday picture in the corner. Does anybody know if this is the real deal or a scam?<br />
http://nd03.blog.cz/294/620/14fe8a949a_61909769_o2.jpg<br />
[[User:DarthMartian7|DarthMartian7]] 19:19, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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bleh...looks fake ([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:25, 12 May 2010 (UTC))<br />
:Old and fake. (btw: the text on the bottom says "the Pokemon that grasps the key to the Ruler of Illusions: Z!") <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 19:28, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Fail. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:54, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== New Pokémon (CoroCoro scan) ==<br />
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Came here to upload the scan, but apparently someone else did but didn't do anything with it. Here it is: <br />
This info should probably be put into the main article. [[User:Marluxia.Kyoshu|Marluxia.Kyoshu]] 20:36, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:It's been used on News. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 20:42, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== More info! ==<br />
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*Zorua has the Illusion ability.<br />
*Mijumaru is 0.5m tall and weighs 5.9kg. It also has the Torrent ability.<br />
*Tsutaaja is 0.6m tall and weighs 8.1kg. It also has the Overgrow ability.<br />
*Pokabu is 0.6m tall and weighs 9.9kg. It also has the Blaze ability.<br />
These should be added to the Pokémon articles--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Poké''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">lova!</span>]] 10:05, 13 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== On the use of unconfirmed information ==<br />
<br />
<strike>We seem to have taken a whole bunch of unconfirmed information as fact here, and as it's generally not Bulbapedia policy to do so, it somewhat bothers me.<br />
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For the record, here is a list of information, much of which has been added to Bulbapedia, that I have not seen in the CoroCoro pages or any other official source (though if you have official sources with this that I have missed, please, by all means, link me):<br />
*The name "Tsutaaja," as well as all info on it beyond the fact that it is at least partly Grass-type<br />
*The name "Pokabu," as well as all info on it beyond the fact that it is at least partly Fire-type<br />
*The name "Mijumaru," as well as all info on it beyond the fact that it is at least partly Water-type<br />
*"Hiun City"<br />
*Zoroark's ability, "Illusion"<br />
*Those two new attacks whose names I can't be bothered to remember right now (Trickery and Claw Sharpen or something?)<br />
*The method by which to obtain Zoroark<br />
I have seen ''none'' of this come from official sources, only from fansites, blogs, and forums. (Hell, I could have sworn that I saw some of this in a 2ch speculation thread back in March.) The justification to their validity seems to be that the random anonymous person who posted this information on 2ch was right about other information before it was leaked, so he must be right now - but that reasoning hasn't been enough in past cases, has it?<br />
<br />
I really wish we had kept the above-mentioned facts off of Bulbapedia until they were confirmed, but here they are. I personally think they should be removed (and the starters' pages moved into TTE's userspace or something) until they are confirmed, but a reasonable compromise, I think, would be to tag all articles that mention this information with an "unconfirmed" tag of some sort (I seem to remember a template for one, though I can't find it now...).<br />
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Any thoughts?</strike> <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 18:23, 13 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:They're all from CoroCoro. It's pretty undeniable. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 18:40, 13 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Scratch that, I found the CoroCoro scans that apparently no one cared to share which confirmed all of this. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 18:42, 13 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Starter Region ==<br />
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i would just like to say that, because of the set-up of the page, it looks like one or the regions in Gen. V is Starters. I would fix it myself, but I'm not an Admin. could an admin please change it show it looks like this<br />
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<nowiki><br />
==Regions==<br />
===Isshu===<br />
==Starters==</nowiki><br />
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instead of this<br />
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<nowiki><br />
==Regions==<br />
===Isshu===<br />
===Starters===</nowiki> thank-you [[User:ShinyPikachu|<span><font color="#E9AB17">Shiny</font></span>]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|<span><font color="#FFFC17">Pikachu</font></span>]] 19:54, 23 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:If you take a look at the table of contents, you'll see that "Starter Pokémon" is a lower heading than "Isshu", as it should be, to indicate that those are the Starter Pokémon of Isshu. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 20:51, 24 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::i guess that's true. the actual part of the article is what made me confused. But looking at the Table of Contents, it is set up correctly.[[User:ShinyPikachu|<span><font color="#E9AB17">Shiny</font></span>]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|<span><font color="#FFFC17">Pikachu</font></span>]] 23:42, 24 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Never too early to have the article set up like the rest. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:53, 29 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Legendary Pokémon==<br />
I saw two new Pokémon looks like the legendaries at the Pokémon english official site (names+artworks). Their names are Reshiram and Zekrom. I don't know if these informations are useful but... -[[User:Caciulacdlac|Caciulacdlac]]<br />
:Already a page on Bulbanews. Also, since it's breaking news, admins, may not have had time to add it in. [[User:ShinyPikachu|<span><font color="#E9AB17">Shiny</font></span>]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|<span><font color="#FFFC17">Pikachu</font></span>]] 18:03, 28 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:If anyone's interested, I have userspace draft articles for [[User:Quagbert/Reshiram|Reshiram]] and [[User:Quagbert/Zekrom|Zekrom]]. I just made them as draft articles since I'm not sure if it's appropriate yet to put them in the mainspace, but when it is, any admin is free to move them (or give me the OK to do so). [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 20:40, 28 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I may as well mention that {{user|Jello}} also has draft articles as well: [[User:Jello/Sandbox/Reshiram (Pokémon)|Reshiram]], [[User:Jello/Sandbox/Zekrom (Pokémon)|Zekrom]] [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 20:47, 28 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Hi, I'm new here, but I just wanted to add a little bit of information about the names, if it hasn't been done already. In Reshiram's name, the shiramu (シラム) comes from [http://dic.yahoo.co.jp/dsearch?enc=UTF-8&p=%E7%99%BD%E3%82%80&stype=0&dtype=0 shiramu (白む)] which means "turning white" or "growing light". In Zekrom's name, the kuromu (クロム) comes from [http://dic.yahoo.co.jp/dsearch?enc=UTF-8&p=%E9%BB%92%E3%82%80&stype=0&dtype=0 kuromu (黒む)] which means "turning black" or "tinged with darkness". They're used especially with regards to the sky, for example, "the sky grows light at dawn" or "the sky is tinged with darkness at night". Hope that helps a little. [[User:AmaranthSparrow|AmaranthSparrow]] 01:31, 29 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Oh, and just speculating, but the Re- and Ze- could come from rei (レイ) and zero (ゼロ), two pronunciations of rei (零), which obviously means "zero". [[User:AmaranthSparrow|AmaranthSparrow]] 01:43, 29 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::How come nobody's yet made the articles for Reshiram and Zekrom yet? And yet people who DO create articles at strange names to get around it, they just get deleted. Why not just move them to the proper names? <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 01:50, 29 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::We're not satisfied with them yet. And considering tomorrow's PSunday, we'll probably get more than enough data. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:51, 29 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::We need to put informations of the two legendaries fast, my friends are asking more things about them but I just have the basic. '''[[User:Blaze of Shadow|Blaze of Shadow]]<br />
:::::::We can't get more info yet Blaze, tell your friends to wait.--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Poké''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">lova!</span>]] 04:47, 31 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
we dont even know their secondary or primary types, we only know that they are part dragon type, so not even the most basic info we have, the article would be only a picture with nothing else.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 07:39, 31 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:That is all we knew about Zoroark when he was first revealed. Type and picture. Everything else was blank. [[User:Myzou|Myzou]] 08:46, 31 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::He was also the first Gen. V Pokémon revealed, which is why he was such a big deal. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 14:50, 31 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Five Known Pokemon? ==<br />
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The article says that five Generation V Pokemon are known, but with the announcement yesterday, seven are known. It even mentions Reshiram and Zekrom in the article. Can an admin make the edit?--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 03:52, 30 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:And the Zekrom page is exist. Please fix this too. -[[User:Caciulacdlac|Caciulacdlac]]<br />
::Yeah, perhaps semi-protection would be smarter here if the admins can't afford to be on top of this at all times. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 15:46, 1 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::The template uses the number of pages to find how many are new. After that, you have to purge the content by pressing the clock by your username to make it show seven. [[User:Turtwig A|<font color="#CD7F32">Turtwig's</font>]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|<font color="#FF7F00">A-B-Cs</font>]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|<font color="#green">talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|<font color="#yellow">contribs</font>]]) 15:49, 1 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::<s>I see. So the reason it reads five instead of seven is that there are no articles for Zekrom and Reshiram, and the reason there are no articles for them is because they are create-protected. The admins couldn't just create the pages and protect them? [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 15:59, 1 June 2010 (UTC</s><br />
:::::Didn't realize they'd been created. I've purged the content, but it still reads five. Maybe the categories haven't been added to the new legendaries' articles? [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 16:01, 1 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::It's likely because of your cache, maybe? The generation infobox reads new Pokemon as the amount of articles in [[:Category:Generation V Pokémon]], it doesn't need to be manually updated. We apologize for any inconvenience if we don't have new Pokemon articles up within the day they're revealed- we'd like to make sure that our articles aren't sloppily put together and include all the known info... which can be difficult at times and make us go "Hm, is one line of text and a mostly-unfilled infobox really worth an article?". Not the point, I know, but I'd just like to point that out. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|<span style="color:#e072a9;">ティナ</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Tina|<span style="color:#728084;">♫</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|<span style="color:#728084;">★</span>]]</sup> 17:12, 1 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
No, that's not it at all. I've taken a look at the source code, and it actually reads "Currently, five Generation V Pokémon are known." No template or anything. This needs to be changed. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 19:58, 1 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
:OH! You're talking about the infobox! We've been talking about the specific text in the article, under the "Currently known Pokémon" section. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 20:00, 1 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==The Order==<br />
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Someone have thinged what is the right order of Zoroa,Zoroark,Reshiram and Zekram? when the numbers be show we need to make the right order. [[User:Blaze of Shadow]] 23:30, 1 June 2010<br />
:Please make more sense.--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Poké''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">lova!</span>]] 05:02, 2 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
::We don't know what numbers they are because we don't know how high the regional dex is going to go. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 10:56, 2 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't think Blaze is talking about specific dex numbers, just general placement, i.e. we can assume that Zekrom and Reshiram will be near the end of the dex, but we can't confirm anything right now. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 14:33, 5 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==July 2010 New Pokémon==<br />
I just whipped a [[User:Quagbert/Chiraamii (Pokémon)|draft article for Chirāmī]] based on the scans that just leaked out. I only did Chirāmī since that's the only one we have a decent amount of clear info on. Perhaps in the future we may want to take any more new Gen V Pokémon discussion {{tt|over here|Category talk:Generation V Pokémon}} and leave this talk page for other Gen V stuff, though that just my suggestion. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 12:05, 11 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Hiragana vs. Kanji ==<br />
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"''Kanji are now used in game menus and text, in addition to the hiragana and katakana used in the previous four generations.''" >> Not saying that this statement is false but could someone point me to a known instance of the games where kanji is used more prominently? I know that it has been used for some things already since Gen I, like the prices in the Japanese versions using the kanji for yen, but this seems to refer to a greater use of the kanji throughout the dialogues... [[User:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:green">ポケモン</span></b>]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:blue">あいこうか</span></b>]] 17:45, 4 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:If I recall correctly, Colo/XD also uses kanji... I think PBR and Stadium ''miiight'', but I'm not sure. There's also kanji in the TCG GB games. I might be missing a few...<br />
:However, this is the first time that a main series handheld game has used kanji in dialogue- the only screenshot I can recall seeing it though was the intro with [http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/series/bw/#/characters/characters02.html Prof Araragi and Chirami]. It's assumed to be a toggle of sorts seeing as there's other dialogue screenshots with just kana. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|<span style="color:#e072a9;">ティナ</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Tina|<span style="color:#728084;">♫</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|<span style="color:#728084;">★</span>]]</sup> 17:55, 4 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I was referring specifically to BW, though, but thanks for the info you provided. xD Well, it does really seem to be an optional element, since I didn't notice kanji in any of the footage before, not even that one of Prof. Araragi and Chiramii... [[User:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:green">ポケモン</span></b>]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:blue">あいこうか</span></b>]] 18:26, 4 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Yes, according to the new Iwata Asks[http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/interview/irbj/vol1/index.html#list] there is going to be both a hiragana mode and a kanji mode. I suggest changing "''Kanji are now used in game menus and text, in addition to the hiragana and katakana used in the previous four generations.''" to something like "''Aside from the usual game menus and text in {{wp|hiragana}} and {{wp|katakana}}, there is now also the option of a {{wp|kanji}} mode. While hiragana and katakana made the Pokémon series accessible to elementary school kids, the optional texts mixed with kanji now also make the games easier to pick up for older teens and adults.''" As opposed to the present version, this makes clear that there is the '''option''' of kanji, and explains the effects of the new kanji mode to those unknown to the Japanese writing system. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 12:46, 11 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Named after colors ==<br />
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Trivia mentions that black and white are colors, technically they're not colors. I think it should be reworded to say that the titles were the first since Generation I (or II, since gold and silver can be colors) to not be named after a gemstone or a mineral. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 18:41, 4 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Technically, they '''are''' colors. Technically, they are not hues - they are shades. This terminology is used in most artistic endeavors, except lighting, where white and black are the presence or absence of light, but that's neither here nor there. These are colors. However, I agree that silver and gold are also colors, but I think it's pretty clear what was meant in the article. [[User:Jazzmoth|<b><span style="color:#0000cc">Jazz</span><span style="color:#ff3300">moth</span></b>]] 14:23, 5 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokemon currently known ==<br />
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By my latest tally, including the pokemon recently released, their are now about 20 with names and around 3 more that still remain unnamed, should anyone make an edit of this. {{unsigned|InferSizMamoMagne}}<br />
:There are fourteen named Pokémon; these are the ones that are counted. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 06:49, 5 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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i want to add koromori. but it wont let me [[User:ArceusLX|arceusLX leveled up!]] 19:46, 7 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:The page name has been protected because we know too little about the subject. You can quit spamming pages now, please. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 19:48, 7 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== The Picture ==<br />
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I'm just wondering if instead of the logos of Black and White getting put as the picture, I think that someone should just put the Japanese boxart pictures on.-- [[User:lilkaykaygal|<span style="color:pink">lilkaykaygal</span>]] 7:34, 5 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:The boxart is on the {{game|Black and White|s}} article. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 21:52, 6 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== advances in gameplay ==<br />
i need to add that you can play triple battles in pokemon black and white. [[User:ArceusLX|arceusLX leveled up!]] 19:37, 7 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Or someone else could add it when we know more about it. Why do ''you'' need to add it?--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Poké''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">lova!</span>]] 01:38, 8 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, nevermind, someone already put it in.--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Poké''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">lova!</span>]] 01:40, 8 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, and please fix the triple battles link - it points to ''Double_battle#Triple_battle'' as of now, while the correct would be ''Double_battle#Triple_battle'''s''''' --<span style="font-family:monospace;color: rgb(0,160,0); background-color: black">'''HTMLCODER.exe@bulbapedia$_ [[User:HTMLCODER.exe|/usr]][[Special:Contributions/HTMLCODER.exe|/bin]][[User_talk:HTMLCODER.exe|/apache2]] -k restart'''</span> 11:25, 16 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Starter Evos ==<br />
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I MIGHT have found the final evolutions of the starters, but they are probably fake.<br />
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Here they are: File:GenVStarterEvos.png<br />
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[[User:Mewtwo777|I am Darth Mewtwo... Fear me, and my team made entirely of Mewtwo!!!]] 17:14, 23 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:They're fake. (and the picture has been deleted on the Archives) <sc>[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</sc> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 03:18, 24 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== NGamer - 157? ==<br />
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In the most recent issue of NGamer magazine UK, they said there would be 157 new Pokémon in B/W. I don't know where they could have gotten that possible fact from, but it ought to be looked into, in the event that they are telling the truth. However, NGamer have been known to put rumors down as fact, and I would predict this is false. [[User:Torngentleman2|MAMOSWINEPwnz! (Torngentleman2)]] 18:37, 2 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
: It is a rumor that's been circulating for a while, but there hasn't been any actual evidence I'm yet aware of. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 18:59, 2 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==season==<br />
since seasons were confirmed to be in gen V could someone add that to this generations changes?[[User:Badwolf1234|Badwolf1234]] 20:53, 10 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Colours ==<br />
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Wow, this is totally random and pointless, but I wanted to point out that the thing about these being the first games named after colours since G1 is inaccurate. All the games have been based off of colours, however, those colours also tend to be other things (metals and gems, etc.). For example, silver is a colour, gold is a colour, ruby is bright red, as it's counterparts sapphire and emerald to blue and green respectively, and so forth. I just think that it's kinda pointless to put that information int he trivia when it's not exactly true. But feel free to debate with me, I'm open for people trying to change my mind. :D<br />
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[[User:Makuta Zero|Makuta Zero]] 06:21, 12 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Advances in Gameplay ==<br />
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I think that it should include that seasons will be in the games. --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 15:35, 22 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Monochrome generation? ==<br />
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its not monochrome monochrome is 1 color black and white is already 2 it should be called the shade generation since they already said third would be grey {{Unsigned|Ares5566}}<br />
:I'd like to inform you of a few things<br />
:1. Sign your comments. ALWAYS<br />
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:2. "Pokémon Gre(a)y" was never confirmed<br />
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:3. Monochrome doesn't mean 1 color. It means shades of 1 color. so Monochrome and Shade are the exact same thing. [[User:ShinyPikachu|<span><font color="#E9AB17">Shiny</font></span>]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|<span><font color="#FFFC17">Pikachu</font></span>]] 02:49, 23 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Just how Generation III was the Advanced Gen, why isnt this the Rebirth Gen? That is what is really is. They are having fresh new starts. Also, monochrome only applies to three games. Speculation shows that we have high chances of getting an Emerald remake (ranberth at youtbue has evidenece). In 2012, 10 anivesity; they like to remake at that time. Also, im reseaching that we might get more Gen I remakes due to 15th anivesrity. The biggest hint is that every region has included Kanto.Here is my guess...<br />
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::*2011-Black and White<br />
::*2012-Grey<br />
::*2012-Emerald remake<br />
::*2013-Gen I remakes<br />
::(they will more spaced out)<br />
::So, with that said, i want to vote on a name! --[[User:Shaymin Master426|Shaymin Master426]] 06:01, 19 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Monochrome is accurate for now. If there are Hoenn remakes, the name can be changed. It's called what fans have chosen, and for now it's monochrome. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#444444">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#C3C3C3">'''Monster'''</span>]] 06:17, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Needs Updated ==<br />
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This page is outdated. It needs to get updated with the latest info that has since been confirmed by last month's CoroCoro, and reconfirmed by both Pokemon Sunday & the official Site.<br />
[[User:Shinji-San|Shinji-San]] 01:06, 24 August 2010 (UTC)Shinji-San<br />
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== The fan name is wrong ==<br />
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The page says they call it the "monochrome generation".I am an Art Major at Lord Fairfax Community College,and that name makes no sense.Monochrome "only 1 color".There are 2 versions,and also black and white are not colors.They are refered to as neutrals in art(which is the only side that has an argument in color).Also,black is the abscense of color,and white is the combination of all percieved color.That name is completely inaccurate,and should be removed from the article because it does not really relate. {{unsigned|Slyver333}}<br />
:According to Wikipedia's article on {{wp|Monochrome}}, "For an image, the term monochrome is usually taken to mean the same as black-and-white or, more likely, grayscale..." Therefore monochrome is not incorrect here. Also, if it's here, it probably means it was used on some Japanese fansite--just because it's not "right" in art, doesn't mean it can't be used as a fan term. --[[User:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:red">Phantom</span>]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:black">Junkie</span>]] 02:24, 28 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Plus, black and white ARE colors - they aren't hues, but they are colors. In art terms, they are technically called shades and tints, respectively. Black is a shade of any color, and white is a tint of any color. As long as you're not talking about light, that makes them both colors. (When discussing colors of light, it is acceptable to refer to white as a combination of all frequencies, and black as the absence of all frequencies, but we're not in optics.) I don't know what you're art teachers are telling you, Slyver, but I'd double check your facts before trying to correct people. Different schools of thought use different terminology, and although I've never heard of the terms you use, I know the ones I learned are widely accepted. Long story short, monochrome is an acceptable term for this generation. (Monochrome can also refer to any range of shades, tints, and tones that have a single hue as their base.) <span style="border: 1px dotted #D04634;">[[User:Jazzmoth|<span style="color:#0F5437">ʝɑzz</span><span style="color:#3E0F54">motɦ</span>]] [[User talk:Jazzmoth|<span style="color:#004AC8;"><sub>❝❞</sub>]][[Special:Contributions/Jazzmoth|✎</span>]]</span> 21:38, 4 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Number of new pokes. ==<br />
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One of the new commericals claimed over 100 new pokes ([http://pokebeach.com/2010/08/black-white-wii-commercials-reveal-many-new-scenes Pokebeach says so anyways]) would be introduced. Should we change the "Pokémon" field in the template to reflect that? Also the info on communications with gen 4 is outdated. --[[User:Deuxhero|Deuxhero]] 01:06, 3 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Anthing for Trivia? ==<br />
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1.I think that with the information we have so far, we should be able to come up with some stuff for the section, at least for when it becomes editable to regular users. I noticed that this is the first Generation to not have a game where you (presumably) can't go to the Kanto region (as in Generation III, there are the Gen. I remakes, Generation IV has HeartGold and SoulSilver, where you can visit Kanto after beating the Elite Four). <br />
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2. I was wondering if anyone thinks they may make a Ruby/Sapphire remake, because Gen. III wasn't that much less advanced in terms of graphics and mechanics, so making a remake would be somewhat pointless, as you could just as easily buy the original, and considering they would have to put a lot of work into making a game that would be more or less the same in most ways(you can tell the added material in LG/FR and HG/SS is obviously needed or at least very different). <br />
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3. The new Japanese commercials for Black & White reveal another new team (as expected) and what looks like some sort of conversation thing where you get an up close look who you're talking to. Any comments?<br />
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Please respond if you would like. --[[User:BeeBwakka|BeeBwakka]] 23:43, 4 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
:# Trivia sections aren't things that need to be filled. No-one should ever be goining around looking at a page and trying to add trivia just because the trivia section is short.<br />
:# Talk pages aren't for general discussion. RS remake talk should be taken to {{bmgf|56930|this thread on the forums}}.<br />
:# Can you get pictures of the commercials? It would help for confirming details. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</sc> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 00:16, 5 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::It's far too early to say that anything won't happen in the next four years. Yes, the chances of revisiting Kanto are less likely this time around but anything could happen in the games after BW, especially with the 3DS (which any RS remakes would be on). --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 01:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Oh, sorry, I just joined so I'm new to this stuff. --[[User:BeeBwakka|BeeBwakka]] 12:29, 6 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Trivia? ==<br />
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Akinator ([http://www.akinator.com here]), is a website where Akinator (the character) tries to guess any character you're thinking of (by yes-no-maybe questions). It (the site) may be a little too small to be notable (though mijumaru alone has already been tried over 140 times) but it *already* has a question "Is your character from the fifth generation of Pokemon". [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 20:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I don't think it would be trivia, unless it was a big site. If it should be, it should be noted that they misspelled Pokémon. [[User:Turtwig A|<font color="#CD7F32">Turtwig's</font>]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|<font color="#FF7F00">A-B-Cs</font>]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|<font color="#green">talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|<font color="#yellow">contribs</font>]]) 20:37, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Oh god, not that thing...damn genie.. I don't think it would be trivia either...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 20:42, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Generation Length ==<br />
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Does anyone mind correcting the generation length? It says "-5 days". --[[User:MCRMY119|-DH]] 21:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Five days until, at that time. Now it says -1, because it's released on Saturday, also known as, you know... tomorrow. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:33, 17 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== All Pokemon Revealed. ==<br />
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http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon.shtml[[User:Umitencho|Umitencho]] 19:17, 16 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Serebii's not an official source. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 19:24, 16 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Gen V framerate ==<br />
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Shall we mention it? (For anyone curious: 30 overworld, 60 battles, title screen, 2D menus, 15 opening) [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 15:18, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Do you want a title screen pic like all the generations before it? ==<br />
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Just asking. If needed, I'll produce these. [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 13:31, 26 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Yeeeahh. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 09:52, 27 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Feel free to pick the one which's better. (http://s1096.photobucket.com/albums/g329/Jarooda/Bulbapedia%20stuff/) (That's my Photobucket!) [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 12:10, 28 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Oh, you're Jarooda? Did not know. Um, the first and the fourth are good. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 12:14, 28 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::What should I name them in Bulbagarden Archives? [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 12:35, 28 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::The second and the third actually have smoother edges, but this your call, Trom. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 12:38, 28 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::Did it. What do you guys think? [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 01:50, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::I guess they do, but I liked the dragons' poses better in the first and fourth :/ &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 10:21, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Useful source? ==<br />
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I accidentally came across this website which appears to reveal the trademarked romanji of the 646 'official' Pokémon as of now, as well as some insight on to their name origins. Is this official? --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 09:36, 8 November 2010 (UTC) [http://park3.wakwak.com/~pokepale/zukan/no/1_1_25.htm]<br />
:It's a fan site I think, like it says on the main page "This site is Japanese Pokemon Fan Site.". [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 09:41, 8 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 09:44, 8 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Why some classics arent in the regionnal dex ==<br />
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some classics (magicarp, pikachu, geodude, abra, etc.) dont appear in isshu. why?<br />
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I think thats because they are far away from kanto/jotho/hoenn/sinnoh. maybe the pokemons of gen5 will be the standards for 3 other gens. {{unsigned|Grhaal0}}<br />
:Game Freak has already stated that the reason old Pokémon aren't included is to give all players a fresh, new experience when playing the games. Your suggestion is speculation, which is rarely allowed and certainly doesn't take precedence over [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Wordofgod word of god]. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 15:28, 8 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
::That brings up the question of "Why did they include old Pokemon at all". Surely a new game, set supposedly in a place half the globe away from previous games wouldn't have all these old Pokemon found in it.--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 16:22, 9 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::I've already explained to you Mackinz, the real world has some species which live in far away places (see rats, mosquitoes, etc.). I don't mean to offend, but if you're trying to bring up another debate over Isshu's basis/motif, this isn't the place. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 21:27, 9 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Not trying to start a debate. Just can't figure out for the life of me why Paras would be in New York. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 20:12, 10 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::Guys this disscussion needs to go to the forums. Stop cluttering the talk page. Please and Thank you [[User:Pokemaster97|Pokemaster97]] 20:16, 10 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
== New Catchable Pokémon from Old Generations==<br />
You know, a lot of Pokémon in these games, although from previous generations, is the first time they are catchable in the wild (without hacks, of course), like Metagross, Kingdra, Mamoswine, Crobat, etc. Is that worth noting? [[User:TFSpock|TFSpock]] 00:47, 4 December 2010 (UTC)TFSpock<br />
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== Wrong Pokémon Count ==<br />
I find this page is within the category page of Generation V Pokémon. I post here, though, since this affects the number of new Pokémon in the summary of Generation V (the one that has the screenshot, main games, region introduced, etc).<br />
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:SLE_aman/fanhax<br />
- [[User:Chaotic iak|Chaotic iak]] 05:26, 7 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:That page was using templates which categorise. I've replaced them with ones that don't categorise or replaced them with the relevant hardcode and removed the categories. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 05:49, 7 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Live Caster ==<br />
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Can anyone explain what it is? It's not in the article. --[[User:BeeBwakka|<span style="color:#52D017">Bee § Bwakka♂</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:BeeBwakka|<span style="color:#157DEC">meh talk</span>]])''</small> 02:24, 8 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Bulbapedia has [[Live Caster|a separate article for it]]. The basic information about it can be found there. --[[User:RiverAura|<font color="#00CCFF">River</font>]][[User_Talk:RiverAura|<font color="#00FFCC">Aura</font>]] 20:36, 15 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Alterations from Generation IV==<br />
Shouldn't the removal of Curse be moved from the "Trivia" section to the "Alterations from Gen IV" section? [[User:U2kheim|U2kheim]] 20:12, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Wait a sec, what? Did you mean, the ???-type? Also, is it neccessary? --[[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 13:33, 15 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Yes because it is an official elemental type. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 17:11, 15 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Thematic Motif? ==<br />
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When will the thematic motif for this generation be written? --[[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><font color="red">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><small><font color="yellow">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]]''' 22:18, 16 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Because, I'm assuming they're added after the release of the next generation. --[[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><font color="red">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><small><font color="yellow">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]]''' 01:33, 19 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
::They were all added by one user quite recently. It's a new thing; no one's written the Gen V one yet. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 07:04, 19 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Timescale between generations ==<br />
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i know there isn't an official timescale between BW and HGSS/DPPt (as HGSS/DPPt is 3 years ahead of FRLG and Ruby/Sapphire) but the page states that there must be a significant difference because the Rocket grunt who was seen in HGSS now has a son, however, Cynthia (DPPt) and Looker (Pt) are NPC's in Black and White too and don't appear to have aged much or at all (in comparison to Misty between FRLG and HGSS), so could it be possible that the grunt already had a son who grew up to be a Schoolboy trainer in a timespace of less than 3 years or slightly more? couldn't this mean that the time between HGSS and BW could be shorter than implied on the page? [[User:Azure42|Azure42]] 15:32, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Cynthia and Looker are much older, so they age much less. The older Gym leaders from FRLG didn't change that much in HGSS. Misty was going through puberty, so her aging would be much clearer. Regardless, I believe that that Rocket Grunt said that he met his wife soon after returning home, meaning that his son was not born in HGSS. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 01:39, 19 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
::It's highly likely to be 11 years - GSC was three years after RGB, RGB were released in 1996, with GS exactly three years later. BW were released 11 years after GS, and since RS happens at the same time as RGB and DP happens at the same time as GS, for the remakes' sake. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:04, 1 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Yes but Caitin is already young in Platinum-HGSS. Maybe she is in her 20s or her early 30s. Yet, in Black and White she still appears to be young (maybe in her late 30s). So an eleven year gap seems to be too big. {{unsigned|Didich}}<br />
::::People can't have a very similar appearance for years. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 17:37, 4 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::You'd be surprised how little some people change over the years. My brother, for instance, has hardly changed in appearance in nearly 15 years. And let's not forget our famous [[Ash Ketchum|in-universe]] example. <br />
:::::In regards to Caitlin, she honestly looks a lot younger than 20 in PtHGSS. Her exact age, however, is debatable. --'''[[User:Darkeiya|<span style="color:#FF6600">Darkeiya</span>]]''' <small>''[[User talk:Darkeiya|<span style="color:#00CCFF">talk to me!</span>]]''</small> 10:40, 14 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::Mind if I join in the conversation? You said that the Team Rocket grunt met his wife/already having the child during the time of GSC/HGSS/DPPt. A school child would be at least 4 years old, no? So let's say 4 - 5 years? By the way, where is this Rocket Grunt? [[User:Chocos0|Chocos0]] 19:39, 23 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::::Before you join in a conversation, it can be worth it to check the timestamp. The last comment was in January. Secondly, I think this discussion is pointless, anyway: we're not going to get at a definite answer by guessing at people's ages. And thirdly, he's in Icirrus City. You can only get to his house in the winter, however. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 20:09, 23 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Sorry, I didn't know there was a rule, or not encouraged, to continue an out of date conversation. But okay then. [[User:Chocos0|Chocos0]] 04:40, 24 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Kanto ==<br />
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why's it say this is the only Generation not to include Kanto? wouldn't something like that be better saved for after this Generation is over?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 23:33, 27 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Currently it is true. If this changes in the future, so will the trivia. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 07:38, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
::alright--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 07:52, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Running Shoes (Changes from Generation IV) ==<br />
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is it worth putting that the running shoes have returned to just pressing B in contrast to in HGSS when it could be automatically be put on using the button on the touch screen? or is it just useless trivia? [[User:Azure42|Azure42]] 17:27, 2 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Debut ==<br />
I noticed on the "Debut" part of the page it says "March 6 2011" - the U.S. release date. As it's under the "En" tag (obviously for "English") and the European release is 4th March 2011, should that be changed to reflect the EU release date? Although the majority of the fandom are American, it is the English premiere, or a third option be added? {{unsigned|Ryu Shoji}}<br />
:It should really be first English, not first US. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 15:08, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::We use US dates for everything else, I don't see why this should be any different even if it is two days before. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 16:17, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Maybe we should add {{tt|*|March 6 in US}}?----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#BF0B17">DENNOU</font>]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#1250A6">ZENSHI</font>]] 16:25, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::The thing says English, so we should use the first English date. The only reason US dates are used for everything else is because they are usually first ([[The Legend of Thunder!|but not always]]). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 01:23, 11 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::The European date is when the English-speaking world begins Generation V. If the date has not been changed already, I will update it (this is the date we're counting down to on the Main Page/when all the info will be out, after all). &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 03:14, 13 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Catching Pokemon at a certain time of day ==<br />
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Can someone confirm if this has been removed? As it would certainly seem to be. <small><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:blue; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span></small> 15:01, 31 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Yes; time of day-based encounter rate differences don't appear in the game data.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#BF0B17">DENNOU</font>]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#1250A6">ZENSHI</font>]] 15:07, 31 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== New standards ==<br />
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I find some odd matches for gen I-V. Timburr, Dangoro and Woobat share traits with machop, geodude and zubat. <br />
What if Gen V acts Like a new Gen I, that will provide Gen VI and up with reccuring pokemons (Magicarp, Geodude, Abra, Machop and Pikachu (and probably others) appears in all Generations I to IV) that will be "standards" for the next games?<br />
Gen III seemed like a reboot for fans, maybe they tried then, and now they made it here.Maybe... [[User:Grhaal|Grhaal]] 01:49, 12 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Some fans have speculated that. We'll see what the future will be like. It'll be interesting. --[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 19:40, 12 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Trivia-new system ==<br />
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This is the second time (not the first) that a new generation of pokemon didnt start on a new system, while gold and silver had exclusive features when played on the GBC (playing in color), they were still playable on GB and GB pocket (cyrstal was the first game that required the GBC). Just as this duo of games can be played on DS, but when played on DSi or 3DS, these games also have exclusive features (the Xtransceiver only works on DSi and 3DS, but NOT on original DS/DS lite systems)<br />
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To say its the first time not to move to the next console at launch is misleading and untrue.<br />
:[[File:Silver EN boxart.jpg|thumb|300px]]<br />
:Box clearly says ''Game Boy Colour''. The games just happen to be backwards compatible. <small><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:blue; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span></small> 01:30, 17 February 2011 (UTC0)<br />
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the game cart is clearly a GB cart (notice the thumb grip goes in and says "Nintedo GameBoy" not out like a GBC cart) [http://gamesdbase.com/Media/SYSTEM/Nintendo_Game_Boy_Color/Cart/big/Pokemon-_Gold_Version_-_2000_-_Nintendo.jpg example of GB cart]<br />
[http://lh3.ggpht.com/_fLtECJziqZI/SkqTt2PlFOI/AAAAAAAABmE/Ciwhrs2IL8E/HPIM1556.JPG example of GBC cart]<br />
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== Young trainer ==<br />
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Its obvious that "young trainer" is the player from D/P/Pt.--[[User:Grhaal|Grhaal]] 12:28, 25 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Non-Event Trivia ==<br />
Is it worth noting the Generation V introduced the same number of non-event Pokémon as Generation I (150)? --[[User:Jimmyduckegg|Jimmyduckegg]] 18:01, 4 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I don't think so. Victini is counted as an event Pokémon. With the unofficial Keldeo, Meloetta, and Genesect, that makes 156 - 4 = 152 non-event Pokémon. I have a ready list of all Generation V Pokémon for reference, and that indeed appears to be the case... [[User:Haxorus|Haxorus]] 14:22, 17 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
::I think JDE was considering Zorua and Zoroark event Pokémon. Would it be correct to consider them that? After all, the only ways to get those two are through an event, or from someone else who has through trading or GTS. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 22:50, 17 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Lock ==<br />
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I believe this page should be locked due to this[http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Dengeki_DS_announces_new_Pok%C3%A9mon_game]. Anyone agree?[[User:ShinyPikachu|<span><font color="#E9AB17">Shiny</font></span>]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|<span><font color="#FFFC17">Pikachu</font></span>]] 17:38, 23 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I think we should wait until people actually start doing editing the page. [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 17:54, 23 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Han is correct. If something goes wrong, then it will be protected, but for now, there is no reason to worry. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange;">Jello</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b> 17:57, 23 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Okay thanks Han and Jello. I wasn't sure, though. When something "Big" like this is 'revealed', a lot of people overreact. [[User:ShinyPikachu|<span><font color="#E9AB17">Shiny</font></span>]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|<span><font color="#FFFC17">Pikachu</font></span>]] 18:04, 23 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Gym Leaders?==<br />
Is it accurate to say this is the first generation for which there is more than one Gym Leader per town within the same game? (Or something less awkwardly phrased.) I noticed it wasn't in the section so.... Am I forgetting someone? [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 22:15, 17 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Tate and Liza from Hoenn. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 22:26, 17 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
::They fight as a unit, though. It's still the first time you could fight one of two or three Gym Leader units depending on your game or your starter. I'm not sure what the best way to phrase it would be. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 14:17, 20 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::[[Sootopolis Gym]]. Leader depends on version. You could also argue [[Fuchsia Gym]] and [[Viridian Gym]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 14:32, 20 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::Given, the user who started this chain mentioned more than one leader within the ''same'' game; Tate and Liza were the first of this kind, I do believe. Cilan, Chili and Cress (discounting Iris and Drayden, because, as I've stated, the parameters for this are ''within the same game'') are not trailblazers. [[User:Sadistic Blaziken|<font color="Purple">Puppy</font>]] of [[User talk:Sadistic Blaziken|<font color="Red">Doom</font>]] and [[Poochyena (Pokémon)|<font color="Blue">Destruction</font>]] 14:40, 20 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::I'm the same user, I don't know why I brought up the version thing the second time. I was mostly wondering about Cilan, Chili, and Cress, but I didn't think about Tate and Liza. Thank you! [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 14:45, 20 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== All Pure Types ==<br />
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Someone can add that trivia:<br />
Generation V is the only generation that introduce all pure types with at least one pokémon<br />
Sorry for my bad english! {{unsigned|Shocker}}<br />
:Sorry, but there is a current ban on trivia at the moment so it can not be added. Also please sign all comments with 4 <nowiki>~~~~~</nowiki>. Thank you! [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 21:15, 12 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Eevee Evolutions and the Safari Zone ==<br />
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There are not new forms of either of these. Should that be included on the page? {{unsigned|PowerPlantRaichu}}<br />
:Added [[User:AquaMaster|AquaMaster]] 15:20, 2 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== gym leaders from previous generations ==<br />
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due to the fact that most, if not all the gym leaders and champions will be appearing in black 2 and white 2, should we add gen 5 to all their lists of generations --[[User:Themudkipman|Themudkipman]] 18:38, 14 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
:I think it is best to wait until we see confirmation of the individual before putting it in their article. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:31, 16 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
:: well yes, but all the kanto gym leaders and S.Stone are confirmed, should we change them? --[[User:Themudkipman|Themudkipman]] 16:49, 17 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::Yes. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 15:27, 19 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Challenge, Normal and Assist Mode ==<br />
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I don't particularly know what they are; whether you can select which mode you can play at the beginning or whatnot, but a alterable difficulty level is something that is new to Pokemon entirely, shouldn't it be in 'Advances in Gameplay'? [[User:Azure42|Azure/ChromeVoid42]] ([[User talk:Azure42|talk]]) 18:24, 15 July 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Going by what previous generations had, a "Further Advancements Made in Black 2 & White 2" (or something like that) section should be added to the Generation V page and have Challenge & Assist Mode, possibly among other things. [[User:Torpoleon|Torpoleon]] ([[User talk:Torpoleon|talk]]) 20:59, 15 July 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokéstar Studios and World tournament as an advancement? ==<br />
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Really? How is that an advancement in Pokémon? I'd say its an region exclusive thing. The World tournament maybe...I don't think that the Pokéstar studios should be included as an advancement. Does anyone else agree with me? - [[User:Clubchloe1|<span style="color:#00A000;">'''Club'''</span>]][[User talk:Clubchloe1|<span style="color:#0000A0;">'''chloe1'''</span>]] 19:42, 11 October 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Ruby and Sapphire remakes? ==<br />
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In the last paragraph of the intro, it mentions the fabled remakes. Nothing is on Bulbanews or the Twitter feed. What is this? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 11:26, 23 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Never mind. It was just put on a year late. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 11:28, 23 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, it's old news. Old speculatory news based on him saying he liked the third Generation games. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 11:31, 23 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
== Shortest Generation in English Speaking Territories? ==<br />
In the article, it says that Generation V was the shortest generation in Englist speaking Territories, when that is not true.<br />
Gen 1-746 Days<br />
Gen 2-885 Days<br />
Gen 3-1495 Days<br />
Gen 4-1412 Days<br />
Gen 5-953 Days at end<br />
If anything, Gen 2 is shortest. Can I fix that?--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 16:07, 2 September 2013 (UTC)</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Red_(game)&diff=1954465Talk:Red (game)2013-08-17T18:36:14Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Originally called Satoshi */</p>
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<div>==Red's Age==<br />
He doesn't look like 11 and especially Leaf doesn't either. Is there any source or official statement for the age? If not, how come there actually is something about the age in the articles if it's not a fact?! --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 08:21, 4 Aug 2005 (CDT)<br />
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Well, I do believe both [[Red (Special)|Red]] and [[Ruby (Special)|Ruby]] started their journey at 11 rather than 10 in [[Pokémon Special]], but besides that, I think it might be confused. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 10:52, 4 Aug 2005 (CDT)<br />
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Oh, ok. But this would mean, he got older as he appears again in the FR/LG series and certainly looks older. Same applies for Green and Blue. --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 15:18, 4 Aug 2005 (CDT)<br />
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[[Pokémon Red and Blue]] take place at the same time as [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen]]. It's the exact same storyline (defeating TR, etc.) except with the Sevii Islands added. Oh, and I do think in the American RGB manuals it said that Red is 11, but I don't have any of those lying around anywhere. --[[User:Greengiant|Greengiant]]<br />
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Yes the american manuals do confirm multiple times that red is indeed 11 years old.<br />
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And Seeing as how Gold/Silver(Heartgold/SoulSilver) takes place three years after the first games, Red is at least 13-14 years old at the time of the later games.--[[User:Proctor|Proctor]] 22:12, 6 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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dont bring up old discussions...([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 01:28, 7 July 2010 (UTC))<br />
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==Optional Names Table==<br />
I think there may be something wrong with the table of optional names on this page. There are no English names and all of the Japanese names are in the same box--[[user:Shaddow Boy|Shaddow Boy]] 9:00 PM, 3 March 2006<br />
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There's nothing wrong, only that no-one has filled in the names. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 22:25, 20 March 2006 (CST)<br />
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==When Red became a Pokemon Master==<br />
Red did not become Pokémon Master in Generation II! He became one in Generation I by beating Blue. In Generation II he must have be beaten by Lance and lose this title because he is just "Pokémon Trainer". - [[User:Maxim|Maxim]]<br />
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Well, really, there's no clear definition of what a "pokémon master" is. Also, there is no confirmation that Red was actually beaten by Lance, considering that Red leaves the E4 after beating Blue anyway in RBY. The only confirmed trainer to defeat him is Gold. I apologize for changing it though, I copied it to edit before you changed it, then added it later.- Shaddow Boy<br />
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The proof: [[Pokémon Master]]. I think it would be more appropriate to change that last line to, "Red is no longer the champion, and Lance has become one." Considering Red's team was much better leveled than Lance's, it seems unlikely that Lance beat him out in a battle. Besides, according to the aforementioned article, whether or not he's the champ, he could still be a master-Shaddow Boy<br />
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Actually, if what I read/heard was correct, Red would still kinda be the Champion. Champion is the title given to someone who has beaten the previous Champion of that League. Which Red did. It could be that Blue/Lance (don't know which one, never finished SoulSilver) took over as Champion since Red "left his post" and went to train (who knows what he was doing) up there. I don't think Red was ever beaten but, instead was counted as quitting. Thus someone had to be an immediate Champion in his place. And no one is better for the job than the strongest Kanto Leader (Blue) or the next-door neighbor Champion (Lance). That's just my theory though. [[User:JessiPlatinum|JessiPlatinum]] ([[User talk:JessiPlatinum|talk]]) 03:45, 14 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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==Yellow==<br />
Should it be noted that Red's Generation II sprite is the one from Yellow, which, in turn, was inspired by Ash? Maybe note somewhere in the article that Ash's character design is based on Red, even though they are not the same people?<br />
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==SSB==<br />
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nalj/smash/PostResult2.html <br />
Do you think this bears mention? This was a "poll" of sorts conducted by Sakurai in May 1999, asking players what characters they wanted to see in Super Smash Bros if they ever made a sequel. Tied for number twelve(the middle one) is "Satoshi (Protagonist)" from the "Pocket Monsters" series. While it's true that Red's official Japanese name is actually "Redo" and not "Satoshi", this poll was taken 6 months prior to the release of Pokemon Gold and Silver, so his name hadn't been made official yet. Also, one might note that Red got more votes than did Diddy Kong, who is considered a likely character for Brawl, or Meta-Knight, who is already confirmed. ---Shaddow Boy<br />
:Are you sure that they intended that it be Red, and not Ash? Ash is the protagonist of the Pocket Monsters series, meaning the anime series.<br />
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:Though I see that they did take those votes to heart, as Bowser's on top, then there's Peach, Ganondorf, and Mewtwo. Maybe they'll allow Banjo and Kazooie to be in Brawl... [[User:TTEchidna|TTE]] 01:31, 26 February 2007 (UTC)<br />
::The fact that Rare belongs to Microsoft, as well as Banjo's removal from Diddy Kong Racing DS, should answer your question. My quesion is, though, what would Red do if he was put in SSBM? What would his moves be?<br />
:::Still, SSBB is allowing third-party characters, and Sega and Nintendo have been in talks... Plus, Rare did say something about a Banjo game coming for DS as well, so they may have removed Banjo from DKRDS in order to make it more just Diddy Kong racing, and not Rare Character Racing. [[User:TTEchidna|TTE]] 03:01, 26 February 2007 (UTC)<br />
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::Pocket Monsters is also the name of the game series, pokemon is just a shortened version. Red was, at the time of the poll, the only protagonist in the video game series. It's also entirely possible that the two(Ash and Red) were not entirely distinguished as separate characters yet. Anyways, as for Red's moves, I'm not entirely sure why that's relevant to whether or not this should be mentioned, but I'll answer, I guess. Red actually has a lot of potential for a moveset if you think about it, a lot more than some characters in SSBM, anyways. Red has all of his items that he uses in the game; poke balls, for capturing opponents; the super rod, as an extended grab; Repel, which could act as a fumy shield; or... well... basically any item in the game could be given an SSB function. In addition, Red could probably pull out a pokemon for a few of his attacks. Not literally "pull out", but, for example, for his third jump, he could quickly open a poke ball, releasing a flying pokemon to use Fly and carry him upwards. For regular attacks, he would probably use a mixture of punches, kicks and various items. --- Shaddow Boy<br />
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==PBR Trailer==<br />
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj2Jqz-rxk8<br />
Red doesn't seem to have any role in Pokemon Battle Revolution... however, the first Pokemon Battle Revolution Trailer specifically featured Red and Leaf, rather than the 4th gen protagonists. Does this merit mention?---Shaddow Boy<br />
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I thought we only mentioned English and Japanese names in the first line. --[[User:Greengiant|Greengiant]] 15:15, 13 August 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Stop! ==<br />
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I got enough of this, let's stop this friggin' crap! Red's team does not reference Pokémon Special. Remember for your lives, Special is based on game, never oppositely! Red got Espeon in game first. He also never had all three starters in the manga (he only borrowed them for short time, for the sake of referencing game team). Then, the team does not reference anime. It's just a power-uped team from [[Pokémon Yellow]] (yeah, Yellow references anime, but the team does not). Look, all his Pokémon are derived from events in the GAME, not in anime.<br />
* Pikachu - starter in the game (and the starter is usually the strongest Pokémon)<br />
* Venusaur - Bulbasaur from Cerulean City<br />
* Charizard - Charmander from Route 25<br />
* Blastoise - Squirtle from Vermillion City<br />
* Snorlax - From either Cycling Road or Silence Bridge<br />
* Espeon - Eevee from Celadon Mansion<br />
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See it? No anime. Only game. His team is not directly based on the anime. And the thing about Special is a complete crap. See it now? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 12:10, 21 October 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Voice in Brawl? ==<br />
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Okay... hearing it, I'm ''thinking'' it's Sarah, since she does voice his anime counterpart... but I'm not too sure. Anyone else? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]Fire echy''' 04:11, 10 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
:It may just be an imitator, since it seems a bit off to me. Also take care that the Japanese Pokémon Trainer doesn't particularly sound like Satoshi, he just generally sounds like a kid.--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:03, 10 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Yea, I hate the voice in Brawl. He sounds like he's 5....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 10:54, 10 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Got a question ==<br />
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After defeating Red once in G/S, can he be battled again?--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c40a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 17:46, 27 April 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, but you'll need to fight the Elite Four again before he'll reappear each time. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 18:03, 27 April 2008 (UTC)<br />
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::Is this worth to be mentioned in the text? [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] 13:13, 7 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Question: Does red have a VS sprite in HG/SS?--'''{{wp|Wikipedia|Wiki}}'''[[User:Tomas|<span style="color:#DAA520">'''Tomas'''</span>]] 13:36, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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He does. [[Image:Ani330MS.png]][[User:LightningKimba]]|<span style="color:orange">L</span><span style="color:purple">K</span>][[Image:Ani330MS.png]] 22:29, 9 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Well, IF you guys have it, you should upload it. {{color|00DD00|--[[User:Bulbafan|Bulbafan]] 01:45, 6 April 2010 (UTC)}}<br />
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: There is no V.S Sprite for Red, When encountered a mosaic of a pokéball appears. But There is probably a fan-made version floating around the internet somewere. But Take it from me, I have encountered him numerous times. --[[User:Proctor|Proctor]] 09:26, 9 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==counterparts==<br />
alright red seems to be based on two characters ash and ritchie because in red/blue version it looks like ritchie but in the yellow version it looks like ash so im adding 2 people to the counterpart section and also adding this to the trivia section [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]<br />
:Actually, you got it all wrong... First of all, Red isn't ''based on'' anyone. It's the other way around. Ash is based on Red. Second of all, yeah, Ritchie looks like him too because Ritchie was designed to look like Ash (who, in turn, was designed to look like Red)... --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|<font color="#d8da2f";>'''electAbuzzzz'''</font>]] <sup>''([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]])''</sup> 17:26, 22 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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::That is correct. The games came first, ''then'' the anime. The only characters to appear in the anime first then the main game series were Jessie and James. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#003366" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#008000" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#800000">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 17:55, 22 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::but how do you know that ritchie was based on Ash its just like sayin James is based on gary or something ..just cuz they look the same doesnt mean the one who comes later in the show is based on the one coming earlier. also wheres the proof?????????[[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]<br />
::::So like the game starting off at 1996 and being out for an entire year, and having already started production on Gen II isn't enough proof which character was based off which? And you yourself are asking for proof, where's your proof that Red is based off of Ash?<br />
--[[User:Outrage DD|Outrage DD]] 00:03, 2 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Know the Difference between a FACT and an ASSUMPTION==<br />
This quote right here gives me a lot of issues. A lot of them.<br />
::''When Red is encountered in Mt. Silver during Generation II, he has no speech, merely repeating an ellipsis before beginning the battle. '''This is a reference''' to the fact that during Generation I he is a silent protagonist, answering only "yes" or "no" questions. After he is defeated, the screen blacks out and he vanishes, a reference to the fact that as the player, Red would black out and awake in the last-used Pokémon Center when he ran out of Pokémon.''<br />
...And it most definitely has nothing to do with the fact every player character experiences many yes/no feedback and "black outs" after defeat? That's ridiculous. Red's lack of dialog in GSC might simply be '''the creator's attempt to leave the character up to an individual's perception''', but that too happens to be ''my'' assumption.<br />
:Unless someone can directly reference this to a pamphlet or quote of some sort, I think this trivia is in dire need of revision or deletion. [[User:RWMVG1DC|RWMVG1DC]] 23:09, 3 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I consider the silent protagonist/ellipsis thing to be reasonable. I agree that the blacking out makes no sense, though, and should be removed. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 06:20, 4 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah... I think the disappearance is Red doing a ninja/Sheik thing. The ellipsis is definitely due to the fact that he was a silent protagonist, although I'm not sure if I'd word it as a "reference." --[[User:Martonimos|((<font color="#008000">Marton</font>]] [[User talk:Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">imos</font>))]] 06:50, 4 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::I can accept that Red doesn't answer with anything but an ellipses in Gold/Silver, because it's very likely it '''is''' a reference to him being a silent protagonist. Him speaking would be completely strange and just not fitting, considering ''you'' were Red in the previous games. Speaking requires personality, and you are supposed to be the personality. This piece of trivia fits.<br />
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:::But the second part does '''not'''. There is no evidence to indicate anyone but Red and yourself black out when you lose a battle, so it can't be assumed that this is the case with Red at this point. I always felt that the blackened screen was representative of Red escaping, not blacking out. As clearly shown above, I'm not the only person to think this. And since the opinion can vary, no single one can be presented as fact. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 22:52, 16 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
::::You know, i agree with you redstar. YOU ARE RIGHT! [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:48, 27 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::...You do realize that 1) you are responding to an eight-month-old comment, 2) the trivia piece in question has been changed appropriately, and 3) Redstar has been banned and will not be able to respond to you? Just thought I'd let you know. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sup>❄</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sub>❅</sub></span>]]</span> 18:23, 27 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::How should i know he was bannned?... [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 19:10, 28 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Names ==<br />
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Why are his other names in one whole line, unlike others'? Same goes for B/G (Gary). [[User: Tc26|'''<span style="color:#0000ff;">tc</span>''']][[User talk: Tc26|'''<span style="color:#2929fb;">2</span>''']][[Special: Contributions/Tc26|'''<span style="color:#4b4bf8;">6</span>''']] 01:50, 19 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Likely because it'd make the article way too wide, or comparably, RBGY had so few names to choose from, and everyone here chose Ash anyway. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:19, 19 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Eye color ==<br />
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Shouldn't it be mentioned that his FR/LG sprite has blue eyes,but all the offical art shows him with brown eyes(and maybe it's just me,but his backsprite seems to show him with brown eyes,just like Leaf)? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 03:23, 10 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Red in GSC being based off of Ash? ==<br />
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"His team references Pokémon Yellow, which is based on the anime, causing many to call him Ash."<br />
The final boss in GSC, AKA Red, was not based off of [[Ash]]. It was based off of {{special|Red}}, from the Pokemon Adventures manga.<br />
Red's team in GSC is {{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Espeon}}, {{p|Snorlax}}, {{p|Venusaur}}, {{p|Charizard}}, and {{p|Blastoise}}.<br />
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Out of those, Ash has a Pikachu, Snorlax, and Charizard.<br />
Red from the manga has Pikachu, Espeon, Snorlax, Venusar, AND would have Charizard and Blastoise borrowed from Blue and Green while he was training in Mt. Silver. <sub style="color:#00008B;">'''[[User:Blake|Blake]]'''</sub> <sup>[[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]]</sup> 16:36, 23 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
:If anything he was based on events that take place in Red, Green, and Blue. Since they didn't wanna canonize and give Red and Green one starter (making Green's team be one of the teams you face with him as champion-- it's actually that minus the starter in GSC), they gave him all three and Pikachu (to represent Red, Green, Blue, and Yellow), Espeon (because you could get an Eevee in RGBY), and Snorlax (because the one that was blocking {{rt|16}} isn't there, but the one blocking {{rt|11}} has moved somewhat). '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 16:51, 23 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
::I am just saying it is silly to have that statement there. The only real reason people would see him as Ash is because he has a Pikachu. :/ and that is because alot of people dont read the manga and only know of the show. But it does actually reference Pokemon Yellow I guess since you can obtain all three starters. I just dont agree with the Ash part. <sub style="color:#00008B;">'''[[User:Blake|Blake]]'''</sub> <sup>[[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]]</sup> 01:08, 24 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::Well, he has Lapras now, which may or may not be a reference to Ash.--[[User:Ryuutakeshi|Ryuutakeshi]] 05:14, 11 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
::::Also, Pikachu has Iron Tail, Volt Tackle, Quick Attack, and Thunderbolt now. Seems like a blatant reference to me. However, it must be emphasised that even though it's a reference with Lapras and the starter trio, Snorlax and Pikachu, he is STILL not Ash. However, this pretty much nips it in the bud that he was ever a reference to Red (manga) - more so, Red's team in the manga seems moreso based on Red himself in the game, setting up his team to be ready so that it would mimic the game, not the other way around. With them retconning the Espeon out of existence, adding Lapras, making Pikachu even more of a reference, it seems they REALLY didn't want people making the confusion.[[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 23:16, 14 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::::Agreed, Red's team is a blatant reference to Ash, especially with the changes made in HGSS. It's not a reference to Special, however; Special got Red's team from the games. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 21:17, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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I've not read the manga, but I always thought the high-powered team lead by a really overleveled Pikachu made it clear it was supposed to be Ash. I just never got where the Espeon came from, but figured maybe sometime it the anime he would get one to contrast Gary's Umbreon. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 21:41, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:The only reference to the anime is Red's Pikachu. The other Pokémon were chosen because they were somewhat canonical (ie: Red got Lapras from that Silph scientist, Eevee from the guy in Celadon and Snorlax from when he fought and caught the Snorlax that was blocking the path to Fuchsia). Some could argue that they replaced Espeon with Lapras because of Ash, but that is up to debate. Methinks they did it just so that his team would have only Kanto Pokémon, as a reference to the fact that he was the player character during Gen I. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]]<br />
::Yes, I believe this is what happened now. Its based on the player from Yellow. Because in Yellow you can get all these Pokemon from NPCs. <sub style="color:#00008B;">'''[[User:Blake|Blake]]'''</sub> <sup>[[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]]</sup> 12:44, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::Red in GSC is based on the player of Yellow. But player of Yellow was Red, not Ash. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 13:52, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
::::I disagree. Just because Yellow Red can get all the starters it doesn't mean that G/S/C Red is based on him. Like TTE said, they just gave him all the Gen I starters because they didn't want to canonize a single one. Considering that G/S/C Blue is based in R/G/B Blue and that there are hints in G/S/C that it follows the plot of R/G/B rather than Yellow (such as Cerulean City having the house with the old man who trades Pokémon with you in R/G/B, rather than the house's Yellow counterpart that had the girl who gave Yellow his Bulbasaur), G/S/C Red is based on R/G/B(/Y?) Red. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 18:50, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== The article image.. ==<br />
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It looks too saturated. What happened, someone changed it? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 17:58, 15 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== HGSS sprite ==<br />
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I just noticed that it in-game is animted, whereas it isn't in this article. Can somebody fix that? [[User:Pokémon Lover King Mario|Pokémon Lover King Mario]] 13:41, 26 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, that's right. When I first made the template, the sprite was animated. For some wacky reason, they removed it. Why? I mean, it ''was'' pretty crappy, but that's no excuse. {{color|00DD00|--[[User:Bulbafan|Bulbafan]] 23:16, 28 September 2009 (UTC)}}<br />
::Actually, a decent old image is better than a new bad-quality image... [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#B69E00"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#E1E1E1"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 23:52, 19 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Espeon ==<br />
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I put a little blurb under Trivia (which is now gone Q_Q) and I wanted to know how you guys felt about it. <br />
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I always felt that the Espeon on Red's Gen II team was the odd one out. Pikachu, Venusaur, Charizard, and Blastoise are the Generation I starters, and Snorlax was a mandatory opponent. But why Espeon? Sure, it evolves from the gift Eevee, but it still felt odd. As people have noted similarities between Red and Ash, it felt a bit odd to just throw on a Pokemon that Ash never used. Then I just randomly remembered that Blue started with an Eevee in Yellow. As Red took all of the other starters, why couldn't he do the same for Eevee? <br />
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Also, it could explain another reason why Espeon was replaced in HGSS. As Yellow didn't receive a remake like Red and Green, there wouldn't be any need to reference it. (Pikachu is safe since it references the anime and is the mascot.) <br />
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I dunno, this seem reasonable to anyone else? [[User:MagicBarrier|MagicBarrier]] 04:35, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:That is some very tortured logic. Your argument makes no sense. Espeon is on the team because it's the evolved form of the rival's starter that is not mandatory for the player to receive? That just doesn't make sense at all. It would maybe make sense if he had Jolteon, Flareon or Vaporeon, or a basic Eevee. But if he's meant to represent the Gen 1 games, having a Gen 2 Pokemon is still odd. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 04:41, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Red's GSC is based on Red of the manga, not Ash of the anime. HGSS Red, however, is debatable.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 22:21, 31 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::GSC Red came about before Vui was revealed to have evolved in the manga. He is NOT based on Adventures!Red. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sup>❄</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sub>❅</sub></span>]]</span> 22:30, 31 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Meganium and Jolteon? ==<br />
In the trivia, it says "Meganium and Jolteon are the only two of Red's female Pokemon if he is an NPC." Exactly what is this referencing, as far as I am aware the only games he can be a NPC is GSC and HGSS, which he doesn't have either of those Pokemon. Or, is this just nonsense?--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 22:18, 31 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Stadium 2 round 1 team. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:30, 31 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== No official HeartGold/SoulSilver art for Red? ==<br />
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Where did all the art come from, anyway? [[User:Ampere|Ampere]] 07:54, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:What do you mean where did it come from. There is no art on there. If you are talking about the sprite, someone ripped it from the game. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 13:07, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I meant the official art for all the other NPCs. [[User:Ampere|Ampere]] 17:17, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Official site and all the other places that have Sugimori's art uploaded. The Japanese HGSS site released all the updated art recently, but I don't know if they have anything for Red yet... ▫▪''[[User:Tina|<span style="color:#d93f91;">Ťïňắ</span>]]'' <sup>[[User talk:Tina|<span style="color:#ae41d9;">♫</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|<span style="color:#d941cf;">♥</span>]]</sup> 18:47, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Red never got Gen II art, so they have no obligation to give us Gen IV art. not saying it wont happen, but dont be surprised if we dont get any. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 18:52, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::If Red were to get any Gen IV art, it would have popped up in one of the Clear Guides. It did not, thus he does not have any. Nor do Oak and Bill, even though (iirc) they got Gen II art. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sup>❄</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sub>❅</sub></span>]]</span> 19:03, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::That's a shame, though I guess I'm not surprised since he's a pseudo-bonus/secret character in this game. [[User:Ampere|Ampere]] 18:24, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
==Withdraw VS Rapin Spin==<br />
:you guys sure its not rapid spin instead of withdraw in the super smash bros section of squirtle, because i play super smash bros, and when pokemon use widthdraw they just go in their shell, but rapid spin, they move inside their shell don't they?, and squirtle definatly moves--[[User:Lambie|<span style="color:#FF0080">Lam</span>]][[User_talk:Lambie|<span style="color:#00FFFF">bie</span>]] 04:22, 23 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: Uhm, You may want to Put this question under that brawl page's Discussion page, As you never mentioned Red in that question and This is not Squirtles talk page. --[[User:Proctor|Proctor]] 09:30, 9 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Challenge sprite...? ==<br />
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...But... Red doesn't ''have'' a challenge sprite... [[User:FireMeowth|FireMeowth]] 13:22, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Some jerk keeps adding this fansprite over and over. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 13:24, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::He doesn't? Surprising... (Then again I haven't played far enough to see for myself) '''[[User:TheChrisD|<font color="green" face="Verdana">TheChrisD</font>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:TheChrisD|<font color="lime">Rants</font>]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|<font color="lime">Edits</font>]]</sup> 14:40, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Limit on battles? ==<br />
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I've battled Red about 5 times or so, and I just climbed Mt. Silver and he was gone! Is there a limit on how many times you can battle him, or is it a matter of time? [[User:CuboneKing|<font color="Red">Cu</font>]][[User talk:CuboneKing|<font color="Tan">bo</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|<font color="Green color light">ne</font>]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|<font color="Black">King</font>]] 03:22, 20 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I've battled him many times. About ten, so it must be something wrong, or he might not appear on certain days at certain times. One time I climbed and he was gone, perhaps it is the time. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 15:14, 20 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I thought that for him to appear again, you have to beat the Elite Four again? Is this false, and you can fight him once a day? <sub style="color:#00008B;">'''[[User:Blake|Blake]]'''</sub> <sup>[[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]]</sup> 17:31, 20 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::I think you're right, Blake. I hadn't fought him that day, and I just beat the Elite Four, and there he is! This should be added into the article. [[User:CuboneKing|<font color="Red">Cu</font>]][[User talk:CuboneKing|<font color="Tan">bo</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|<font color="Green color light">ne</font>]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|<font color="Black">King</font>]] 03:32, 21 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Umm... it is... "''He will reappear at Mt. Silver again if the player defeats the Elite Four again, and his party will remain unchanged in all subsequent battles.''" [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#DAA520"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 03:37, 21 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>hurts self* Oops. [[User:CuboneKing|<font color="Red">Cu</font>]][[User talk:CuboneKing|<font color="Tan">bo</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|<font color="Green color light">ne</font>]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|<font color="Black">King</font>]] 03:42, 21 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::See it now? Fail... [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#DAA520"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 03:50, 21 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::::This is kinda untrue. It should be worded as, ''The player can only battle Red once until beating the Elite 4 again, after which he appears once a day.'' As I only beat Elite 4 Twice yet there he is every day. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 15:37, 27 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Red's there all the time. At least it was that way in Gen II. As long as you had defeated the Elite Four and hadn't fought him yet, he would be there waiting for a challenge. ;-) [[User:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:green">ポケモン</span></b>]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:blue">あいこうか</span></b>]] 14:00, 28 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Money received ==<br />
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We should get info on when the player receives {{PDollar}}7700 or {{PDollar}}15400 in Gen II and {{PDollar}}16800 or {{PDollar}}33600 in HGSS for defeating Red... I don't know what defines the different amounts for the prize money myself but I'm interested in learning that. =) [[User:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:green">ポケモン</span></b>]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:blue">あいこうか</span></b>]] 14:00, 28 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:And from what I've seen so far, there are other Trainers to which this also occurs, like Lance. [[User:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:green">ポケモン</span></b>]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:blue">あいこうか</span></b>]] 14:28, 28 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Maybe it's the Amulet Coin...? <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 15:17, 28 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::I've thought on that. Unless there is anything else working here, then it's the Amulet Coin. [[User:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:green">ポケモン</span></b>]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:blue">あいこうか</span></b>]] 15:39, 28 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== In trivia... ==<br />
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The link to Mother is linked to Wikpedia. Can someone please change it to the Earthbound Wiki? I'd do it myself but I don't know how. [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 00:38, 25 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Done. The name of the Earthbound wiki is WikiBound, so the interwiki prefix is wb. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 01:00, 25 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Brawl information ==<br />
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Shouldn't they be moved to a separate article? It seems to me that it takes too much space, and it's still kind of incomplete. Wouldn't it be better if it was mentioned on the article with some basic-sense information and additionally analyzed (especially from its Brawl-perspective) on a separate article? --[[User:Ash Pokemaster|Ash_Pokemaster]] 23:07, 11 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Trivia Worthy? ==<br />
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In his original design in RGBY, it looks like he has a leaf on his hat. Could that have been forshadowing of LeafGreen? [[User:Iml908|Iml908]] 20:17, 23 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
:No. The game wouldn't come out for almost ten years then [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 20:21, 23 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Ruby & Sapphire and Emerald ==<br />
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Apparently [http://www.spriters-resource.com/gameboy_advance/pokeem/sheet/8328 Red and Blue have sprites for this games]. Can someone confirm if they are really official? And if it turns out they are, should they be added to the article? [[User:LurKasumi|LurKasumi]] 11:38, 28 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
:They're real. Just wrongly ripped, the colors are messed up. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 13:10, 28 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==LIZARDON Vs. PIJOTTO==<br />
The other day on Bulbagarden Archives, I, being a fan of Red, decided to look at Ken Sugimori's Red artwork. But, interestingly, I found a picture with Red flying on Pidgeot with Blue in the background riding on Charizard. Shouldn't that be added to the artwork section?{{unsigned|JacobTheDoduo}}<br />
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== Proposal ==<br />
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Should we move all the trivia here related to Red's appearance as Pokémon Trainer in SSBB to his actual [[Pokémon Trainer (Super Smash Bros.)|SSBB page]]? It just seems more appropriate there (though I have no comment myself on the content of the trivia itself). [[User:Haxorus|<span style="color:#968428">'''Hax'''</span>]][[User talk:Haxorus|<span style="color:#4C4646">'''or'''</span>]][[Special:MyContributions|<span style="color:#800517">'''us'''</span>]] 15:25, 1 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Appearance Trivia ==<br />
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"Red, along with Blue and Professor Oak, appears in all generations so far either as an NPC or as a playable character, except for Generation V." This actually applies to a lot more characters than just these three with characters like Brock, Bill and even Red's Mother being NPCs in all generations. Is it needed to be mentioned here really? [[User:Wexdarn|Wexdarn]] 19:34, 13 April 2012 (UTC)<br />
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: Red and blue have both Appeared in all Generations but I don't think that it's that notable--[[User:Hydra3dragon|$%$HYDRA3DRAGON$%$]] ([[User talk:Hydra3dragon|talk]]) 06:14, 13 July 2012 (UTC)☆<br />
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== Quotes ==<br />
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Does anybody have the exact quotes for Red in GSCHGSS? I think they would be useful... --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 02:15, 19 August 2012 (UTC)<br />
:All he says is "..." and that's it. --[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#424B50">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#848A8D">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#E3CED0">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EDDFE0">ire</span>]] 02:24, 19 August 2012 (UTC)<br />
::So he "speaks" Before battle (GSCHGSSB2W2), During battle (HGSSB2W2?), When defeated (HGSSB2W2?), After being defeated (GSCHGSSb2W2?) My main question is ''when'' and ''how many''. I read if the Time Capsule was used he'd say "......" when first encountered instead of "...". Who thought an ellipsis would be so confusing... -[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 04:53, 19 August 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Red's age. ==<br />
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Okay, so as far as I know that was in manual for Red and Blue... that was also in Japanese manual, right? (or in Japanese only, or in English only?) [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 10:37, 5 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:It's definitely [http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5047/62366721.jpg in the English manual]. I can't find scans of the Japanese manual online (nor do I own it), so I can't say anything about it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:46, 5 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:: The European manual actually says 10-years old. [http://i2.minus.com/jMUXhWLVIbKcA.JPG Here] is a shot. [[User:Ash Pokemaster|Ash Pokemaster]] ([[User talk:Ash Pokemaster|talk]]) 13:09, 7 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Originally called Satoshi ==<br />
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Adding this to trivia: http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/blogs/11139/reds-beta-name-pocket-monsters-2-gold-silver-kanto-state-58926/<br />
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Before the release of Gold and Silver, Game Freak teased that "Satoshi" (obviously Red at that point), Dr. Orchid, and Sakaki were to make appearances in Gold and Silver. This shows that they originally planned on naming him after Satoshi Tajiri or mirror his anime counterpart before settling on the version name instead. [[User:Fang-tan|Fang-tan]] ([[User talk:Fang-tan|talk]])<br />
== Pocket Monsters Origin Special ==<br />
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Should we mention the Anime Special on the page? It will be Red's story in the special after all. --[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 18:36, 17 August 2013 (UTC)</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Pokemon26&diff=1925133User:Pokemon262013-06-26T19:47:49Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Black 2 & White 2 */</p>
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<div>== Pokemon 26 ==<br />
Hi! Welcome to my user page. I have been a fan of Pokemon since Red and Blue in 1998. I am working on a number of Pokemon projects. I am going to put here my current competion status for each of my games.<br />
Red/Blue/Yellow-Completed, but can no longer play them.<br />
Gold/Silver Crystal-Completed, but can no longer play them.<br />
Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald-Completed Ruby, but not Sapphire or Emerald. May go back to them in the future, especially if no remakes are done.<br />
Fire Red/Leaf Green-May go back to them in the future.<br />
Heart Gold/Soul Silver-Completely finished Soul Silver. I was working on Heart Gold before Black and White 2 came out. Will work on it in the future.<br />
Black/White-Completely finished Black. I was working on White before Black and White 2 came out. Will work on it in the future.<br />
Black 2/White 2-Got to Victory Road in Black 2. I am on Gym 3 in White 2. Working on those currently.<br />
Here is the list of my projects I have to complete in the order I will complete them:<br />
Black 2 and White 2 (Hopefully will finish both to the elite 4 by Christmas, 2012. Complete finish is expected by Spring of 2013)<br />
White (Spring 2013)<br />
Heart Gold (Early Summer 2013)<br />
Fire Red and Leaf Green (Summer 2013)<br />
Sapphire and Emerald (Summer 2013)<br />
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== A Little Background On Me ==<br />
My Pokemon journey began at the age of 6 in 1998 with Pokemon Red and Blue. I played Red, and my sister played Blue. In those early days, I was easily frustrated by playing, so my mom played to help me. Anyway, I got through Red with all 151 Pokemon (including Mew). Then came Johto in 2000. I played Silver and my mom played Gold. The game no longer works.<br />
Then came Hoenn. It was 2003 when I started Hoenn. I was 11 years old, and my mom officially stopped playing the games, so it was the first region that I was playing alone. I mastered Hoenn in the 6 years I was there, from 2003-2009. In 2009, I woke up one morning and realized I was bored with Hoenn. I had started Pearl and Diamond in 2007 with everyone else (and even had a Manaphy from the event), but I really did not play it at the time. In 2009, Sinnoh had been played by most fans to that point. I got into Sinnoh by repeatedly transferring my Manaphy back and forth between Pearl and Diamond and restarting the games after tranfer. Then I started playing Sinnoh. 1 year later, I had beaten Sinnoh in Pearl and started working on Platinum and Diamond (Both of whitch I still am working on). Then came the rebirth of Johto in 2010. I have been playing that since. My other Pokemon related projects include making my own personal game-based battle frontier using my games and playing Fire Red and Leaf Green on my own time. <br />
When I got Black and White, I had many goals. My biggest goal was to capture all 156 new Pokemon. I was not able to do that. In Unova, many firsts occured for me. My first Black team is the standard team for me (Ground type, Electric type, Fire type, Ice type, Water type, Flying type). My second Black team has a Psychic type instead of an Ice type (a first). In White, my team has a Poison type (a first). I am trying to think of a team for a possible Pokemon Gray Version.On the gym side of it, I got to beat the gyms in a quick succession (in Black, 8 days, no joke. In White, slightly more). I wonder what will happen in Pokemon next.<br />
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The following list is of groups I am a part of:<br />
{{User Project Routes}}<br />
{{User Male}}<br />
{{User Project Anime}}<br />
{{User Project Walkthroughs}}<br />
{{User Single}}<br />
{{User Project Games}}<br />
{{User Project Pokédex}}<br />
{{User Project CharacterDex}}<br />
{{User Liberal}}<br />
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== Pokemon Teams ==<br />
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I don't remember what my teams were for Red and Blue or Gold and Silver. I do know my teams for Ruby and Pearl and SoulSilver though. I will post those at a later date. Thank you!!!<br />
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== Ruby Version ==<br />
Sceptile [[Image:254.png]]<br />
Raichu [[Image:026.png]]<br />
Blaziken [[Image:257.png]]<br />
Glalie [[Image:362.png]]<br />
Gyrados [[Image:130.png]]<br />
Swellow [[Image:277.png]]<br />
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I moved this team to Pearl.<br />
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== Pearl Version ==<br />
Torterra [[Image:389.png]]<br />
Luxray [[Image:405.png]]<br />
Rapidash [[Image:078.png]]<br />
Lucario [[Image:448.png]]<br />
Floatzel [[Image:419.png]]<br />
Staraptor [[Image:398.png]]<br />
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== Soulsilver Version ==<br />
Steelix [[image:208.png]]<br />
Ampharos [[image:181.png]]<br />
Typhlosion [[image:157.png]]<br />
Togekiss [[image:468.png]]<br />
Quagsire [[image:195.png]]<br />
Pidgeot [[image:018.png]]<br />
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== Platinum Version ==<br />
Torterra [[image:389.png]]<br />
Luxray [[image:405.png]]<br />
Rapidash [[image:078.png]]<br />
Abomasnow [[image:460.png]]*<br />
Floatzel [[image:419.png]]<br />
Staraptor [[image:398.png]]<br />
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*yes, I know I dropped Lucario from my team. I was going to use Abomasnow in my Pearl team, but Lucario went to the Elite Four instead. Abomasnow got his opportunity this time... plus, I needed something to beat that Gliscor (yes, I can use Floatzel, but I need to use that 4X vulnerability to ice to my advantage. :)<br />
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== Diamond Version ==<br />
Torterra [[image:389.png]]<br />
Luxray [[image:405.png]]<br />
Infernape [[image:392.png]]<br />
Lucario [[image:448.png]]<br />
Empoleon [[image:395.png]]<br />
Staraptor [[image:398.png]]<br />
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*This is my only team with all 3 starters. It began as an experiment on how to get all 3 in one team. I had multiple DSs, so I tried it. The team, along with Platinum, is currently training to win the elite four challenge, as the levels are not high enough.<br />
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== How I develop my pokemon teams ==<br />
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I have determined that it is important to have a fire type, electric type, water type, and flying type in all of my teams. That typically leaves me two open spaces. Those spaces are filled with pokemon of various types.--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 17:48, 31 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Fire Red Team ==<br />
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Venusaur [[image: 003.png]] Raichu [[image: 026.png]] Arcanine [[image: 059.png]] Mr. Mime [[image: 122.png]] Cloyster [[image: 091.png]] Pidgeot [[image: 018.png]]<br />
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== First Black Unova Team ==<br />
Excadrill [[image:530.png]]<br />
Zebrstrika [[image:523.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Vanilluxe [[image:584.png]]<br />
Carracosta [[image:565.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
== Second Black Unova Team ==<br />
Krookodile [[image:553.png]]<br />
Galvantula [[image:596.png]]<br />
Darmanitan [[image:555.png]]<br />
Gothitelle [[image:576.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Swanna [[image:581.png]]<br />
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== White Unova Team ==<br />
Excadrill [[image:530.png]]<br />
Zebstrika [[image:523.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Scolipede [[image:545.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
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== Heartgold Team ==<br />
Donphan [[image:232.png]]<br />
Ampharos [[image:181.png]]<br />
Typhlosion [[image:157.png]]<br />
Togekiss [[image:468.png]]<br />
Gyrados [[image:130.png]]<br />
Honchkrow [[image:430.png]]<br />
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== Gym Challenge ==<br />
I am in the process of training all of my teams and creating my own series of game gyms. This is the order that a challenger will battle them:<br />
1.Heartgold<br />
2.Diamond<br />
3.White<br />
4.Platinum<br />
5.Soulsilver<br />
6.Black<br />
7.Pearl<br />
8.Ruby (on Pearl)<br />
Expected finish date: Summer 2012<br />
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== Black 2 & White 2 == <br />
Black 2:<br />
Excadrill [[image:530.png]]<br />
Galvantula [[image:596.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Haxorus [[image:612.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
White 2:<br />
Gigalith [[image:526.png]]<br />
Galvantula [[image:596.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Stoutland [[File:508.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
*With these teams, I am using three types I have never used before. In Black 2, I am using a dragon. In White 2, I am using a normal type. I originally intended to have Excadrill in both, but I got a Roggenrola. It will eventually be a Gigalith. These are major firsts for my teams and my games.<br />
== HeartGold (Redone) ==<br />
I am getting my Mom to revive her Gold team in the Heart Gold Format, so here is what her final team probably will be:<br />
Tyranitar [[image:248.png]]<br />
Ampharos [[image:181.png]]<br />
Typhlosion [[image:157.png]]<br />
Espeon [[image:196.png]]<br />
Lapras [[image:131.png]]<br />
Togekiss [[image:468.png]]<br />
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== Pokemon X and Y ==<br />
The starters look interesting. As far as my favorite, it is hard to tell, since the games were just released today. When picking a starter, there are several factors I take into account. 1st, what the final evolved forms are. This is only a small factor, but it is a factor. 2nd, what the gym leader and elite 4 lineup is. This is the single largest factor. Usually, I pick my starter based on ho many gyms the starter can fight in. Once the calculation comes into effect, the third factor comes into question. The third factor is what other Pokemon are in the region. It helps set up the Pokemon lineup.<br />
I am looking forward to X and Y.</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mewtwo_(M01)&diff=1859874Talk:Mewtwo (M01)2013-03-07T03:12:19Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Italian */</p>
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<div>==Ambertwo's death==<br />
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When and where did anything ever say that Ambertwo and the other clones died from "exhaustion due to being a clone" in the birth of Mewtwo or anything for that matter. It is not explained why they die they just do to my knowledge, correct me if I'm wrong. Also, wo said the will of a human isn't as strong as the will of a pokemon? If thats truw then the Ambertwo should have died first, then charmandertwo, followed by Squiertletwo and bulbasaurtwo, and that didn't happen.[[User:Wikid|Wikid]] 01:20, 5 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:As Jmath, JSFighter or anyone else has thus far not said anything to explain their added unlikely info, I have changed it back to what it last was. But I'm pretty certain that it never gives you the reason as to why they died at all, so even what I cahnged it to still seems rather wrong.--[[User:Tails Clock|Tails Clock]] 13:27, 25 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Computer Attack==<br />
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''Italic text''A computer attacked and killed him to protect the scientists, but Mewtwo quickly regenerated and destroyed the island and everyone on it. <br />
''Italic text''<br />
When did that happen?<br />
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::In the movie, in the first few opening scenes. [[User:Wikid|Wikid]] 01:20, 5 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Killed? It totally missed; Mewtwo is too powerful. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:57, 5 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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That computer most certaintly didn't kill him. It latched on to him and then Mewtwo just simply blasted it off of him. --'''[[User:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CC99CC">いぬ</span>]][[User talk:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">みみ</span>]]''' 01:58, 28 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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It apsolutely DID NOT kill him! Nor did it even intend to. Those robotic arms were ment to restrain him, not destroy him, but as InuMimi said; he made quick work of them. [[User:Artbender|Artbender]] 22:45, 2 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Giovanni's? ==<br />
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I think the infobox shouldn't mention Giovanni if Mewtwo isn't referred to as ''Giovanni's Mewtwo'' in the title or the rest of the article. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 19:49, 18 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
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:Done and done? [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 19:55, 18 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
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::<nowiki>*</nowiki>Uses Sweet Kiss* --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 07:06, 19 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
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Hey! She's mine! '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc><sup><span style=" color:navy">[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]</span></sup>Hi''' 08:29, 19 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Gender ==<br />
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I don't think Mewtwo's gender should be "none" since it's unknown if genderless Pokemon apply in the anime, and therefore, not 100% confirmed. In fact i think it's very unlikely that it's genderless since there was a female (mother) Lugia in the series, so it should be "Unknown" ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 11:18, 16 June 2008 (UTC))<br />
:I think we should go a bit further and addend the "unknown" and add "likely male" since all of Mewtwo's voice actors (even the Japanese ones) have been men. Also, I believe Mewtwo was referred to as a 'he' in the anime; and in the article Mewtwo is referred to as male. -Lord Hyren 04:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Well, if Mewtwo was referred to as a "He" in the anime, go ahead and change it. However, I just want to mention that VA's aren't exactly a determining factor of whether a Pokémon character is male or female. I mean, Ash's VA in almost all versions was a girl, and Ash IS a Guy. <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] ([[User talk:Weedle Mchairybug|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Weedle Mchairybug|contribs]]){{ #if: | &#32;{{{2}}} |}}''</small><br />
:::Nuh-uh, Ash is ''[[Ashley|totally]]'' a girl. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:39, 29 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::No, actually, he was indeed a guy. They always refer to Ash as a guy. Ashley was a disguise so he could sneak into the Celadon Gym, and wearing a dress doesn't make you a girl any more than wearing a cape makes you batman. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 02:15, 29 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::So those people who get brat implants aren't ladies? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <span class="explain" title="Optimus35"><sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc></span>]]<sub>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]</sub>''02:18 29 Jun 2008'''''<br />
::::::Wait... WHAT?! What did you mean "Brat implants"? I only mentioned that guys who wear dresses aren't girls anymore than little kids who wear capes are batman. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 11:37, 29 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Didn't mean to be sick, but I meant 'breast'. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <span class="explain" title="Optimus35"><sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc></span>]]<sub>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]</sub>''11:44 29 Jun 2008'''''<br />
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Ash's voice at least sounds male and that's what counts IMO. Same as Mewtwo. --'''[[User:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CC99CC">いぬ</span>]][[User talk:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">みみ</span>]]''' 01:55, 28 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:Even though I think Mewtwo is a male, unless it is confirmed, it should be unknown. Also, we need to remove the gender specific pronouns in articles where the Pokémon's gender is unconfirmed, such as this.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight the ampharos]] 00:01, 11 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
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If Mewtwo's gender is listed as "Unknown" in the infobox, then why is he constantly referred to as "he" in the actual article? We should either list him as male in the infobox, or refer to him as "it" in the article. I'm not really sure which, because although I personally think he is male, I recall the characters in the anime referring to him as "it" several times. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 11:52, 18 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Remember that Giovanni did say "good boy" to Mewtwo as well in Mewtwo Returns. [[User:Nintenboy01|Nintenboy01]] 16:02, 29 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Oh. Then maybe we should add it? Mewtwo's also referred to as "he" on the legendary duos page.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight the ampharos]] 05:54, 16 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Should it... ==<br />
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Should it have a party table consisting of the Pokémon it cloned?--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c40a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 12:52, 18 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I don;t think a party table is the way to go. If we want to, maybe we can just have a section listing the clones. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] <sup>([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]])</sup> 13:06, 18 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
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Isn't that the same idea?--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c40a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 13:08, 18 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Movie ==<br />
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Did you watch the movie that was meant to be the prequel of the movie? See this link: http://serebii.net/movies/mewtwo/origin/pics2.shtml. It's one we STILL didn't create yet, and features Amber... [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 21:37, 24 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Never mind, I get it now. [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 21:37, 24 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Shadow Ball ==<br />
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Should it be mentioned that Mewtwo used Shadow Ball? The move was introduced in Generation II and Mewtwo was probably not even meant to use Shadow Ball. [[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''Jm'''</span>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #000099">'''a'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''th'''</span>]] 15:50, 26 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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It is already, and think about it, [[Harrison's Blaziken]] used {{m|Blaze Kick}} before [[Generation III]] began. Same rules.--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c40a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 15:52, 26 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
:That's different since when the [[Silver Conference]] came around, Generation III was already out. While Generation II was not even known about at the time of the movie. [[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''Jm'''</span>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #000099">'''a'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''th'''</span>]] 15:54, 26 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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How do u know that--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c40a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 15:54, 26 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I remember reading about it somewhere a long time back. [[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''Jm'''</span>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #000099">'''a'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''th'''</span>]] 15:56, 26 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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They could've been plannng to put it in. Remember {{p|Snubbull}} and {{p|Marill}} in [[Pikachu's Vacation]], the short that preceded the feature presentation?--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c40a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 15:58, 26 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
::It's possible but still not definite. That's why I don't think it should be in the moves section. A small mention would be enough in the trivia section. [[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''Jm'''</span>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #000099">'''a'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''th'''</span>]] 16:02, 26 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
Shouldn't the move be aura sphere? Mewtwo is one of wery little pokémon that can use it, see<br />
http://www.pokemondb.co.uk/move/aura-sphere {{unsigned|Tomas}}<br />
:Aura Sphere would not be created until 7 years later. How in the world can it be Aura Sphere!?!? Besides, it more closely resembles a classic Shadow Ball attack. Even the Melee Mewtwo had it as an attack. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 05:35, 20 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Venusaur/Charizard/Blastoise Nicknames? ==<br />
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Shouldn't we put their nicknames? Venusaur is Bruteroot...[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 00:35, 8 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:The originals were Bruteroot and Shellshocker, yes, but the clones weren't. I don't think the clones were even of those particular Venusaur and Blastoise, if I recall correctly. --[[User:Martonimos|((<font color="#008000">Marton</font>]] [[User talk:Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">imos</font>))]] 00:36, 8 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
Uhh... Mewtwo called his Venusaur Bruteroot...[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 00:47, 8 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:When? --[[User:Martonimos|((<font color="#008000">Marton</font>]] [[User talk:Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">imos</font>))]] 04:52, 8 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I'm pretty sure Mewtwo never said a single word to it's cloned Venusaur...[[User:Animine|EcksAcksisAnimine]] 16:27, 13 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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It was the trainer's pokemon who were named Bruteroot and Shellshocker. That's why Ash said: "I don't have a name for it, but I will use Charizard."<br />
Mewtwo never had to speak to his clones, he just made a nodding motion and VenusaurTwo stepped forword to battle. [[User:Artbender|Artbender]] 22:48, 2 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Other Pokemon ==<br />
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Shouldn't there be a table for other pokemon like the dragonite and the fearow that mewtwo used as service pokemon?--'''[[User:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CC99CC">いぬ</span>]][[User talk:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">みみ</span>]]''' 00:49, 4 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Guys, C'mon, Now. . ==<br />
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That Dragonite Messenger sprites sucks! Why keep it? Why not just remake it?<br />
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Now, seriously, it looks like someone just went into MS Paint and put a box on Dragonite. ''[[User:ShinjiLover|<font color="9933ff">シンジ</font>]]''<sub>'''[[Paul|<font color="6600CC">Shinji</font>]]'''</sub>[[User talk:ShinjiLover|<font color="5218FA">Lover</font>]],'''[[Special:Contributions/ShinjiLover|<font color="9900cc">Edits</font>]]''' 01:04, 3 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Hard refresh the image, it's been changed to a good quality one. - [[User:Kogoro|<span style="color:#DA70D6;">'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>'''</span>]] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|<span style="color:#FFB6C1;">'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>'''</span>]] - 01:09, 3 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
::MUCH better. Thanks to whoever changed that. It sucked before. ''[[User:ShinjiLover|<font color="9933ff">シンジ</font>]]''<sub>'''[[Paul|<font color="6600CC">Shinji</font>]]'''</sub>[[User talk:ShinjiLover|<font color="5218FA">Lover</font>]],'''[[Special:Contributions/ShinjiLover|<font color="9900cc">Edits</font>]]''' 01:13, 3 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::...wow. Just wow. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:45, 6 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
::::...wow is right...who else do you think changed it?--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|<font color="brown"><small><sup>☆</sup></small></font>]][[User:Tavisource|<font color="teal">Tavis</font>]][[User talk:Tavisource|<font color="gray"><small>ource</small></font>]] 00:16, 11 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
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What's wrong with it? I like it! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 11:54, 18 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
:That was after it changed. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 03:28, 19 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Disable==<br />
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Mewtwo mentions disabling the special abilities of all the Pokémon just before the final fight. Doesn't this mean that it used the move Disable? And if so, shouldn't that be added to the Moves Used section? [[User:Mattachu|Mattachu]]<br />
:Disable only disables moves, not abilities. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 16:57, 17 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
::Tell that to Team Rocket in [[EP032|The Ninja Poké-Showdown]] [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 17:27, 17 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::But abilities weren't present in the first Generation, and judging by the fact that, for example, Charizard wasn't using moves like Flamethrower, I think that Mewtwo meant that it was disabling moves, hence Disable. [[User:Mattachu|Mattachu]]<br />
::::Well, it has been years since I last watched it so I can't remember that well. If you think that he did, you can add it until contested by another person. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 18:11, 17 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Childhood memories ==<br />
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"The cloned Squirtle, Charmander, and Bulbasaur look extremely similar to their cloned evolved forms. Mewtwo also mentions when it introduces them to Ash, Misty, Brock, Fergus, Corey, Neesha, and Nurse Joy that it also had a Squirtle, Charmander, and Bulbasaur, and that they evolved, which hints that it may have cloned them from its childhood friends."<br />
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I am questioning this, because as far as I remember, when the first movie was done (July 1998 Japan), the prequel about his childhood didn't exist yet. The prequel story first aired as a radio drama (September 1999) and much later as a short anime. Furthermore, in the prequel it says that all memories from his childhood were erased. {{unsigned|Aicona}}<br />
:That "prequel" was part of the original Japanese movie that the failsacks at 4Kids cut to make Mewtwo "more evil". I mean, come now, we can't give something like that a heart. We can't make its anger be of misunderstanding. It's gotta be evil. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 01:03, 29 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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*Stares blankly at TTEchidna* Your being sarcastic, right? Mewtwo is not evil and his anger <i>is</i> of misunderstanding and hurt.<br />
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Anyway, I think it was mostly Amber he was focused on when they erased his memory, so EVERYTHING about her disappeared, but he vaguely remembered the others because they were not his main focus as they brain-wiped him. This is just my idea though, there's nothing to back it up. [[User:Artbender|Artbender]] 22:54, 2 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:TTE is always being sarcastic, and please stop commenting to old conversations. Thanks. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sup>❄</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sub>❅</sub></span>]]</span> 23:07, 2 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Mewtwo's Where-abouts ==<br />
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Does anybody know where he is exactly? I mean anime wise. By the end of Mewtwo's Return it states he lives in a far away city, but I've also heard he's traveling the world. Has anyone heard any confirmed info as to his where-abouts? <br />
XDDD Yes, I know it's a stupid question but I'm a huge fan of Mewtwo. [[User:Artbender|Artbender]] 05:12, 3 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:It can pretty much be concluded that Mewtwo is just traveling the world in solitude. There's not much else he can he do at this point. Showing himself to the world could be risky on his part so now he just watches over civilization from skyscrapers, world skies, Ect. --[[User:Lordrogersmith6485|Lordrogersmith6485]] 08:09, 13 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
I've heard that the city that Mewtwo is standing over at the end of Mewtwo Returns, is the city that amber was born in (the one that Ambertwo showd him in the Origien of Mewtwo short). I have my doughts that it's true but if anyone can confirm this it should be added to the trivia. [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 01:12, 9 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== psychic balls? ==<br />
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seriously? no mention of the special pokeballs that mewtwo uses in the first movie? I came here looking for information about them, I don't even know what they're called. I'm guessing they're called psychic balls but since I have no information about them at all that is purely guess work and I'm probably wrong anyway. if any one has any info on this let me know<br />
:The Poké Ball page would have been a good place to check. Its the third bullet down in the anime part of {{DL|Poké Ball|Other variants|this section.}} It probably could be mentioned on the page, but if we put too much detail then we'd risk getting a play-by-play synopsis of the movie. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#A1871F;">Werdnae</span>]]</sc> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 04:02, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I think I read somewhere on the 'pedia that the city is New York. Sooooo... [[Unova]] ?--[[User:WenGobou|WenGobou]] 08:44, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Mewtwo Story Timeline?==<br />
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Was it ever clarified exactly how long ago before the first movie did the 'Birth of Mewtwo' special take place? And for that matter, how long it took to create Mewtwo? --[[User:Lordrogersmith6485|Lordrogersmith6485]] 04:30, 8 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Nope. It never said; which is probably a good thing considering Pokemon time is all messed up [[User:Artbender|Artbender]] 13:27, 21 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Location==<br />
'At the end of the ordeal, Mewtwo erased Giovanni and his soldiers' memories of him, and decided to move throughout the world searching for the meaning of his life.' -- A quote from the article. Then how come in the location part of the infobox, it says Johto? I think it should be changed to Unknown. [[User:Torngentleman2|MAMOSWINEPwnz! (TaleOfTheToaster)]] 17:47, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Error on Article==<br />
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'''Quoth the article:''' "...Ash was caught in their crossfire and turned to stone. After Ash is revived by the tears of the nearby Pokémon, clone and original alike, Mewtwo experiences a change of heart and stops his destructive rampage. Wanting to find himself, Mewtwo erased the memories of those present and he and his clones left New Island for Johto. <br />
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'''A few years later''', Giovanni found Mewtwo's hiding place via one of their satellites and began a plan to capture him once again. However, this plan was foiled when Mewtwo again met with Ash..."<br />
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If Ash is still 10 years old after '''EVERYTHING''', the above statement about a few years going by is '''not''' possible. [[User:Artbender|Artbender]] 13:18, 21 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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It is mentionned several times in the anime that years have passed since a certain event (for example in [[PK07]], when Ash states that it has been a year since he and Pikachu first met). The narrator says that Ash is 10 in [[BW001]]. The Pokémon anime is in a {{wp|floating timeline}}.<br />
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== He or it ? ==<br />
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This page refers to Mewto as a he, but [[Mewtwo (Adventures)|Mewtwo]] is referred to as an it. Do Ash and his friends call Mewtwo "he" or something ?--[[User:WenGobou|WenGobou]] 08:56, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:From the infobox: "''Male (As referred to in Mewtwo Returns dub)''" <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 18:41, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Link returns ==<br />
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Is there any reason there's no link to Mewtwo Returns until about halfway down the page? And even then never in actual article text? If not could one be added please. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 17:31, 21 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I added a link to [[Mewtwo Returns]] and [[Mewtwo Strikes Back]] in the article. Thanks for letting us know. [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 17:37, 21 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Alright, thanks. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 18:08, 21 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Should it... Revisited ==<br />
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I heavily agree with Kukitalk. I think that instead of one square showing Mewtwo's cloned Pokemon, that there should be a show button, with squares for each of them. [[User:Jdrawer|Jdrawer]] 04:28, 19 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Charizard==<br />
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the article lists the clone Charizard's only move as Seismic Toss, but its using flamethrower in in the movie and it's picture. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] 18:31, 29 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
:then add Flametrower [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 19:01, 29 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
::If I add it, someone will undo the edit.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] 19:09, 29 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
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==Mewtwo's attacks==<br />
This says that Mewtwo used Counter and Disable in Mewtwo Strikes Back... I don't remember either of them being used. I have no idea when he would have used Counter... and as for Disable, I guess that's referring to the fact that he stopped all of the Pokémon from using special attacks in the fight? I'll admit, that did happen, but I wouldn't say that that's "Disable". Disable "disables" one attack from one Pokémon, not all the special attacks of every Pokémon in range. Unless its effect differs in the anime (which is possible, since a few attacks have been shown to have different effects in the anime than the games). But another reason I don't think that it was "Disable" was because Ash's Pikachu was able to use an electric attack on Ash after Ash was turned to stone. If Pikachu was "disabled" then he wouldn't have been able to do that. Unless the disable wore off, but if that was the case I'd think that the other Pokémon who were fighting would have had their disables worn off as well and would have started using special attacks on each other. [[User:Dannyjenn|Dannyjenn]] 20:10, 19 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
*They were used. [[User:AquaMaster|AquaMaster]] 20:24, 19 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
::What I was trying to ask... is when were they used? I remember the Counter now (he re-directed a Hyper Beam).<br />
::But as for Disable, like I said, it wasn't used unless you consider everything I said about blocking everyone's special attacks to be "Disable". I don't think that it was... it seemed more to me like him using his powers to do so, but not specifically using any attack (like how he used his powers to make a storm, yet he wasn't using "Rain Dance"). Unless there was some other instance of him using Disable, but I really don't remember it ever being used. [[User:Dannyjenn|Dannyjenn]] 00:13, 20 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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==Pokémon 3: The Movie==<br />
Mewtwo can be seen in one of the Japanese trailers for Pokémon 3 ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maL-tyDMux8 ). Does anyone know... was he originally going to have a cameo in that movie... or was that just in the trailer as filler? Is this worth mentioning... maybe as trivia? [[User:Dannyjenn|Dannyjenn]] 01:08, 20 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Soo... Why's this not listed? ==<br />
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http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Striking_Back_Mewtwo_(10th_Movie_Promo) Likely an oversight given it's a Japanese promo, but it mentions the far less notable Dragonite based on his messenger in the TCG section. ;p Seems most, if not all, of the other cards from that promotional set aren't listed on their respective basis' pages, either. I wouldn't even know how to go about adding the section for some of them, so I'll leave it to someone that does. [[User:RiverShock|RiverShock]] ([[User talk:RiverShock|talk]]) 08:57, 24 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== infomation for 16th movie ==<br />
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since mewtwo is gonna reappear in the 16th movie, can we have a section of it. {{unsigned|Dragon146}}<br />
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We currently don't know for sure whether or not this specific Mewtwo will reappear in the 16th Pokemon movie, but if it does, then yes, we should have info on Mewtwo's role in that movie. If the Mewtwo in said movie is a different one, then no, as the information will not apply to this Mewtwo. Regardless of whether or this Mewtwo will make a comeback in the future, I think we should wait for the film to come out before we add anything to this article. [[User:Uncle Edit|He&#39;s here! The one and only...Uncle Edit!]] ([[User talk:Uncle Edit|talk]]) 02:55, 13 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Italian ==<br />
<br />
Sorry, I can speak english very well.. but now there's an italian voice too, and I can't edit this page. --[[User:4life|4life]] ([[User talk:4life|talk]]) 13:21, 3 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
== New Movie 16 Trailer ==<br />
In the most recent trailers, when Mewtwo comes to save Ash, Ash seems to recognize Mewtwo. Since there is (presumingly) only one Mewtwo, does that confirm that the Mewtwo in the movie is going to be the same Mewtwo? I am just wondering. It makes sense to me.--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 03:12, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ash%27s_Squirtle&diff=1855717Talk:Ash's Squirtle2013-02-25T20:37:58Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Evolve? */</p>
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<div>==Training==<br />
is Squirtle really training it seem to me it is just a job {{unsigned|Sonicflames|02:23, 11 September 2007}}<br />
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:Much like Charizard isn't really "in training", unless "in training" means scoring with [[Charla]]. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[wp:Echidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">E</span><span style="color:#0000FF;">chidna</span>]]''' 03:14, 11 September 2007 (UTC)<br />
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lol chariazard became a pimp {{unsigned|Sonicflames|03:03, 12 September 2007}}<br />
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==Evolution==<br />
I wish Squirtle would hurry up and evolve, it would be so much better if Ash had a Blastoise.<br />
<br />
:Not going to happen. For one, how would it lead the [[Squirtle Squad]] if it evolved? Trust me, if the leader of [[Team Wartortle]] evolved, it would be shipped over to Team Blastoise. Additionally, if Ash were to have a Blastoise, [[Gary's Blastoise|Gary's novelty]] would quickly wear thin. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 17:09, 18 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Squirtle works as a Squirtle. Ash does need an evolved water Pokémon but Buizel will probably fill that role. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 17:22, 18 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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First of all, who got rid of the Ash's Squirtle sprite? That was not right! Second, I have an alliterative, better name for "Team Blastoise". How about the "Blastoise Brigade"?--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c41a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 19:48, 4 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I have changed the sprite. The glasses was incorrect. I made an alternate version but have trouble uploading it. It is better to put the DP sprite in instead of that messed up sprite.[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 19:51, 4 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
EDIT: And I had been discussing it with Shiningpikablu252, but he just seemed to disapear...hmmm?...[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 20:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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Why are you guys discussing this here and not on the Ash page (the one actually using the sprite)? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 13:22, 5 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Possibly male ==<br />
<br />
if the squirtle squad are possibly all male would Ash's Squirtle be a male too?[[User:Lindsayoris15|Lindsayoris15]] 03:07, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:No... There is no fact that the Squirtle Squad are male or female and neither is there for Ash's Squirtle.<span style="font-family:Cataneo BT">~[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#000000;">Pokemaniac102</span>]]</span> 03:11, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Changed [[Squirtle Squad]]'s gender(s) to Unknown. :) - [[User:SpontaneousCombusken|<span style="background:#E57E4C"><span style="color:#F4DA8E;"><sub>spontaneous</sub></span></span><span style="background:#F4DA8E"><span style="color:#E57E4C;">'''Combusken'''</span></span>]] 03:12, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Released==<br />
Ash did not release squirtle as ash can call upon it anytime. Hes just leaving it with the squirtle squad, like how charizard is the the charcific valley and bulbasaur is at oaks. [[User:Happizelpom|<span style="color:#FF7070">Happi</span>]][[User talk:Happizelpom|<span style="color:#FF8000">zel</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|<span style="color:#660099">pom</span>]] 07:40, 19 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
:True.--'''[[User:Diby|<span style="color:#6890F0;">D</span><span style="color:#F08030;">i</span>]][[User talk:Diby|<span style="color:#78C850;">b</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Diby|<span style="color:#F8D030;">y</span>]]''' 07:50, 19 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Also the trivia part that says Squirtle is, like Lapras, a water type Ash no longer owns should be edited, as Squirtle is still Ash's [[User:Luord|Luord]] 03:47, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Surf?==<br />
I know Squirtle has never outright used the move surf but the move page indicates that it has. As I realize that Ash has used him for water transportation multiple times I can understand why someone might put that BUT this is still an inconsistancy between pages and I'm not sure which one should be changed... -- [[User:D558|D558]] 01:41, 12 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Gender confirmed in [[EP017]] Japanese version ==<br />
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Squirtle's gender was confirmed in the Japanese version. I was watching [[EP017]] and, reading the subtitles for Pokémon talk, I saw that Bulbasaur and Squirtle both refer to themself as おれ ''{{wp|Japanese pronouns|ore}}'', which is a male-only pronoun meaning "I". It's the same one used by {{Ash}} and {{an|Brock}} in the Japanese version. So maybe that's reference to Squirtle and Bulbasaur's gender. --'''[[User:Netto-kun|<span style="color:#006">Netto-kun</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Netto-kun|<span style="color:#006">Talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Netto-kun|<span style="color:#006">Contribs</span>]]</sup> 17:18, 2 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Does using ore mean anything? Anabel uses "boku" which is male and she's a girl. Harley uses the feminine "atashi". --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 05:42, 29 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I'm rewriting it as gender neutral. Although おれ is generally used by males, it isn't exclusively. At the top of Ash's Charizard's talk page we have a notice that clearly states the wiki's view on the issue: "Please don't post about Charizard's gender being unknown. It's very annoying. Our policy is that the gender stays unknown until someone in the anime calls it a male or female." Since it has not been outright stated, Charizard's gender is still "unknown". --[[User:Jda95|Jda95]] 10:08, 14 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Evolve? ==<br />
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My friend said that Squritle would evolve in Best Wishes.Any confirmation?[[User:Skarm|Skarm]] 06:41, 13 July 2011 (UTC)<br />
:No. Your friend was either lying or had bad info. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 06:50, 13 July 2011 (UTC)<br />
== The only one of Ash's Pokemon to Have a Job? ==<br />
Ok...forgive me if I am wrong. I saw on the trivia that Squirtle is the only one of Ash's Pokemon to have a job. What about Bulbasaur? Bulbasaur is an ambassador. Would that count as a job? --[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 20:37, 25 February 2013 (UTC)</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Viridian_Gym&diff=1855125Talk:Viridian Gym2013-02-24T18:26:14Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Giovanni Returns */</p>
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<div>== Really an Oversight? ==<br />
We do have an [[Magma Admin]] named [[Tabitha]]...--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 04:13, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Agreed. They've done worse things with names before. I had a big cleanup of the trivia section. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 05:21, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Item found in Gym?==<br />
Shouldn't there be a note of the [[Revive]] found in the Gym in [[Generation 1]]? [[User:Togelover|Togelover]] 20:48, 15 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Probably. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 03:20, 16 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Giovanni Returns ==<br />
<br />
Should it be mentioned that Giovanni is apparently the gym's leader again in Gen V? --[[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] ([[User talk:Morgil27|talk]]) 05:50, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:It might not mean he's currently the gym leader. Blue, Red, and Lance are all in the Champions tournament, but clearly all three can't be champions at the same time. --[[User:Funktastic~!|It&#39;s Funktastic~!]] ([[User talk:Funktastic~!|talk]]) 06:02, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
== Could the Gym be Ghost Type now in the Anime? ==<br />
Considering that as far as we know, Agatha is still running the Viridian City Gym, could the gym be technically Ghost Type? It would make sense. Forgive me if I am wrong. --[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 18:26, 24 February 2013 (UTC)</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Pokemon26&diff=1827782User:Pokemon262013-01-08T18:17:24Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Pokemon X and Y */</p>
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<div>== Pokemon 26 ==<br />
Hi! Welcome to my user page. I have been a fan of Pokemon since Red and Blue in 1998. I am working on a number of Pokemon projects. I am going to put here my current competion status for each of my games.<br />
Red/Blue/Yellow-Completed, but can no longer play them.<br />
Gold/Silver Crystal-Completed, but can no longer play them.<br />
Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald-Completed Ruby, but not Sapphire or Emerald. May go back to them in the future, especially if no remakes are done.<br />
Fire Red/Leaf Green-May go back to them in the future.<br />
Heart Gold/Soul Silver-Completely finished Soul Silver. I was working on Heart Gold before Black and White 2 came out. Will work on it in the future.<br />
Black/White-Completely finished Black. I was working on White before Black and White 2 came out. Will work on it in the future.<br />
Black 2/White 2-Got to Victory Road in Black 2. I am on Gym 3 in White 2. Working on those currently.<br />
Here is the list of my projects I have to complete in the order I will complete them:<br />
Black 2 and White 2 (Hopefully will finish both to the elite 4 by Christmas, 2012. Complete finish is expected by Spring of 2013)<br />
White (Spring 2013)<br />
Heart Gold (Early Summer 2013)<br />
Fire Red and Leaf Green (Summer 2013)<br />
Sapphire and Emerald (Summer 2013)<br />
<br />
== A Little Background On Me ==<br />
My Pokemon journey began at the age of 6 in 1998 with Pokemon Red and Blue. I played Red, and my sister played Blue. In those early days, I was easily frustrated by playing, so my mom played to help me. Anyway, I got through Red with all 151 Pokemon (including Mew). Then came Johto in 2000. I played Silver and my mom played Gold. The game no longer works.<br />
Then came Hoenn. It was 2003 when I started Hoenn. I was 11 years old, and my mom officially stopped playing the games, so it was the first region that I was playing alone. I mastered Hoenn in the 6 years I was there, from 2003-2009. In 2009, I woke up one morning and realized I was bored with Hoenn. I had started Pearl and Diamond in 2007 with everyone else (and even had a Manaphy from the event), but I really did not play it at the time. In 2009, Sinnoh had been played by most fans to that point. I got into Sinnoh by repeatedly transferring my Manaphy back and forth between Pearl and Diamond and restarting the games after tranfer. Then I started playing Sinnoh. 1 year later, I had beaten Sinnoh in Pearl and started working on Platinum and Diamond (Both of whitch I still am working on). Then came the rebirth of Johto in 2010. I have been playing that since. My other Pokemon related projects include making my own personal game-based battle frontier using my games and playing Fire Red and Leaf Green on my own time. <br />
When I got Black and White, I had many goals. My biggest goal was to capture all 156 new Pokemon. I was not able to do that. In Unova, many firsts occured for me. My first Black team is the standard team for me (Ground type, Electric type, Fire type, Ice type, Water type, Flying type). My second Black team has a Psychic type instead of an Ice type (a first). In White, my team has a Poison type (a first). I am trying to think of a team for a possible Pokemon Gray Version.On the gym side of it, I got to beat the gyms in a quick succession (in Black, 8 days, no joke. In White, slightly more). I wonder what will happen in Pokemon next.<br />
<br />
<br />
The following list is of groups I am a part of:<br />
{{User Project Routes}}<br />
{{User Male}}<br />
{{User Project Anime}}<br />
{{User Project Walkthroughs}}<br />
{{User Single}}<br />
{{User Project Games}}<br />
{{User Project Pokédex}}<br />
{{User Project CharacterDex}}<br />
{{User Liberal}}<br />
<br />
== Pokemon Teams ==<br />
<br />
I don't remember what my teams were for Red and Blue or Gold and Silver. I do know my teams for Ruby and Pearl and SoulSilver though. I will post those at a later date. Thank you!!!<br />
<br />
== Ruby Version ==<br />
Sceptile [[Image:254.png]]<br />
Raichu [[Image:026.png]]<br />
Blaziken [[Image:257.png]]<br />
Glalie [[Image:362.png]]<br />
Gyrados [[Image:130.png]]<br />
Swellow [[Image:277.png]]<br />
<br />
I moved this team to Pearl.<br />
<br />
== Pearl Version ==<br />
Torterra [[Image:389.png]]<br />
Luxray [[Image:405.png]]<br />
Rapidash [[Image:078.png]]<br />
Lucario [[Image:448.png]]<br />
Floatzel [[Image:419.png]]<br />
Staraptor [[Image:398.png]]<br />
<br />
== Soulsilver Version ==<br />
Steelix [[image:208.png]]<br />
Ampharos [[image:181.png]]<br />
Typhlosion [[image:157.png]]<br />
Togekiss [[image:468.png]]<br />
Quagsire [[image:195.png]]<br />
Pidgeot [[image:018.png]]<br />
<br />
== Platinum Version ==<br />
Torterra [[image:389.png]]<br />
Luxray [[image:405.png]]<br />
Rapidash [[image:078.png]]<br />
Abomasnow [[image:460.png]]*<br />
Floatzel [[image:419.png]]<br />
Staraptor [[image:398.png]]<br />
<br />
*yes, I know I dropped Lucario from my team. I was going to use Abomasnow in my Pearl team, but Lucario went to the Elite Four instead. Abomasnow got his opportunity this time... plus, I needed something to beat that Gliscor (yes, I can use Floatzel, but I need to use that 4X vulnerability to ice to my advantage. :)<br />
<br />
== Diamond Version ==<br />
Torterra [[image:389.png]]<br />
Luxray [[image:405.png]]<br />
Infernape [[image:392.png]]<br />
Lucario [[image:448.png]]<br />
Empoleon [[image:395.png]]<br />
Staraptor [[image:398.png]]<br />
<br />
*This is my only team with all 3 starters. It began as an experiment on how to get all 3 in one team. I had multiple DSs, so I tried it. The team, along with Platinum, is currently training to win the elite four challenge, as the levels are not high enough.<br />
<br />
== How I develop my pokemon teams ==<br />
<br />
I have determined that it is important to have a fire type, electric type, water type, and flying type in all of my teams. That typically leaves me two open spaces. Those spaces are filled with pokemon of various types.--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 17:48, 31 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Fire Red Team ==<br />
<br />
Venusaur [[image: 003.png]] Raichu [[image: 026.png]] Arcanine [[image: 059.png]] Mr. Mime [[image: 122.png]] Cloyster [[image: 091.png]] Pidgeot [[image: 018.png]]<br />
<br />
== First Black Unova Team ==<br />
Excadrill [[image:530.png]]<br />
Zebrstrika [[image:523.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Vanilluxe [[image:584.png]]<br />
Carracosta [[image:565.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
== Second Black Unova Team ==<br />
Krookodile [[image:553.png]]<br />
Galvantula [[image:596.png]]<br />
Darmanitan [[image:555.png]]<br />
Gothitelle [[image:576.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Swanna [[image:581.png]]<br />
<br />
== White Unova Team ==<br />
Excadrill [[image:530.png]]<br />
Zebstrika [[image:523.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Scolipede [[image:545.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
<br />
== Heartgold Team ==<br />
Donphan [[image:232.png]]<br />
Ampharos [[image:181.png]]<br />
Typhlosion [[image:157.png]]<br />
Togekiss [[image:468.png]]<br />
Gyrados [[image:130.png]]<br />
Honchkrow [[image:430.png]]<br />
<br />
== Gym Challenge ==<br />
I am in the process of training all of my teams and creating my own series of game gyms. This is the order that a challenger will battle them:<br />
1.Heartgold<br />
2.Diamond<br />
3.White<br />
4.Platinum<br />
5.Soulsilver<br />
6.Black<br />
7.Pearl<br />
8.Ruby (on Pearl)<br />
Expected finish date: Summer 2012<br />
<br />
== Black 2 & White 2 == <br />
Black 2:<br />
Excadrill [[image:530.png]]<br />
Galvantula [[image:596.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Haxorus [[image:612.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
White 2:<br />
Gigalith [[image:526.png]]<br />
Galvantula [[image:596.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Stoutland [[File:508.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
*With these teams, I am using three types I have never used before. In Black 2, I am using a dragon. In White 2, I am using a normal type. I originally intended to have Excadrill in both, but I got a Roggenrola. It will eventually be a Gigalith. These are major firsts for my teams and my games.<br />
== Pokemon X and Y ==<br />
The starters look interesting. As far as my favorite, it is hard to tell, since the games were just released today. When picking a starter, there are several factors I take into account. 1st, what the final evolved forms are. This is only a small factor, but it is a factor. 2nd, what the gym leader and elite 4 lineup is. This is the single largest factor. Usually, I pick my starter based on ho many gyms the starter can fight in. Once the calculation comes into effect, the third factor comes into question. The third factor is what other Pokemon are in the region. It helps set up the Pokemon lineup.<br />
I am looking forward to X and Y.</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Pokemon26&diff=1827781User:Pokemon262013-01-08T18:16:33Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Black 2 & White 2 */</p>
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<div>== Pokemon 26 ==<br />
Hi! Welcome to my user page. I have been a fan of Pokemon since Red and Blue in 1998. I am working on a number of Pokemon projects. I am going to put here my current competion status for each of my games.<br />
Red/Blue/Yellow-Completed, but can no longer play them.<br />
Gold/Silver Crystal-Completed, but can no longer play them.<br />
Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald-Completed Ruby, but not Sapphire or Emerald. May go back to them in the future, especially if no remakes are done.<br />
Fire Red/Leaf Green-May go back to them in the future.<br />
Heart Gold/Soul Silver-Completely finished Soul Silver. I was working on Heart Gold before Black and White 2 came out. Will work on it in the future.<br />
Black/White-Completely finished Black. I was working on White before Black and White 2 came out. Will work on it in the future.<br />
Black 2/White 2-Got to Victory Road in Black 2. I am on Gym 3 in White 2. Working on those currently.<br />
Here is the list of my projects I have to complete in the order I will complete them:<br />
Black 2 and White 2 (Hopefully will finish both to the elite 4 by Christmas, 2012. Complete finish is expected by Spring of 2013)<br />
White (Spring 2013)<br />
Heart Gold (Early Summer 2013)<br />
Fire Red and Leaf Green (Summer 2013)<br />
Sapphire and Emerald (Summer 2013)<br />
<br />
== A Little Background On Me ==<br />
My Pokemon journey began at the age of 6 in 1998 with Pokemon Red and Blue. I played Red, and my sister played Blue. In those early days, I was easily frustrated by playing, so my mom played to help me. Anyway, I got through Red with all 151 Pokemon (including Mew). Then came Johto in 2000. I played Silver and my mom played Gold. The game no longer works.<br />
Then came Hoenn. It was 2003 when I started Hoenn. I was 11 years old, and my mom officially stopped playing the games, so it was the first region that I was playing alone. I mastered Hoenn in the 6 years I was there, from 2003-2009. In 2009, I woke up one morning and realized I was bored with Hoenn. I had started Pearl and Diamond in 2007 with everyone else (and even had a Manaphy from the event), but I really did not play it at the time. In 2009, Sinnoh had been played by most fans to that point. I got into Sinnoh by repeatedly transferring my Manaphy back and forth between Pearl and Diamond and restarting the games after tranfer. Then I started playing Sinnoh. 1 year later, I had beaten Sinnoh in Pearl and started working on Platinum and Diamond (Both of whitch I still am working on). Then came the rebirth of Johto in 2010. I have been playing that since. My other Pokemon related projects include making my own personal game-based battle frontier using my games and playing Fire Red and Leaf Green on my own time. <br />
When I got Black and White, I had many goals. My biggest goal was to capture all 156 new Pokemon. I was not able to do that. In Unova, many firsts occured for me. My first Black team is the standard team for me (Ground type, Electric type, Fire type, Ice type, Water type, Flying type). My second Black team has a Psychic type instead of an Ice type (a first). In White, my team has a Poison type (a first). I am trying to think of a team for a possible Pokemon Gray Version.On the gym side of it, I got to beat the gyms in a quick succession (in Black, 8 days, no joke. In White, slightly more). I wonder what will happen in Pokemon next.<br />
<br />
<br />
The following list is of groups I am a part of:<br />
{{User Project Routes}}<br />
{{User Male}}<br />
{{User Project Anime}}<br />
{{User Project Walkthroughs}}<br />
{{User Single}}<br />
{{User Project Games}}<br />
{{User Project Pokédex}}<br />
{{User Project CharacterDex}}<br />
{{User Liberal}}<br />
<br />
== Pokemon Teams ==<br />
<br />
I don't remember what my teams were for Red and Blue or Gold and Silver. I do know my teams for Ruby and Pearl and SoulSilver though. I will post those at a later date. Thank you!!!<br />
<br />
== Ruby Version ==<br />
Sceptile [[Image:254.png]]<br />
Raichu [[Image:026.png]]<br />
Blaziken [[Image:257.png]]<br />
Glalie [[Image:362.png]]<br />
Gyrados [[Image:130.png]]<br />
Swellow [[Image:277.png]]<br />
<br />
I moved this team to Pearl.<br />
<br />
== Pearl Version ==<br />
Torterra [[Image:389.png]]<br />
Luxray [[Image:405.png]]<br />
Rapidash [[Image:078.png]]<br />
Lucario [[Image:448.png]]<br />
Floatzel [[Image:419.png]]<br />
Staraptor [[Image:398.png]]<br />
<br />
== Soulsilver Version ==<br />
Steelix [[image:208.png]]<br />
Ampharos [[image:181.png]]<br />
Typhlosion [[image:157.png]]<br />
Togekiss [[image:468.png]]<br />
Quagsire [[image:195.png]]<br />
Pidgeot [[image:018.png]]<br />
<br />
== Platinum Version ==<br />
Torterra [[image:389.png]]<br />
Luxray [[image:405.png]]<br />
Rapidash [[image:078.png]]<br />
Abomasnow [[image:460.png]]*<br />
Floatzel [[image:419.png]]<br />
Staraptor [[image:398.png]]<br />
<br />
*yes, I know I dropped Lucario from my team. I was going to use Abomasnow in my Pearl team, but Lucario went to the Elite Four instead. Abomasnow got his opportunity this time... plus, I needed something to beat that Gliscor (yes, I can use Floatzel, but I need to use that 4X vulnerability to ice to my advantage. :)<br />
<br />
== Diamond Version ==<br />
Torterra [[image:389.png]]<br />
Luxray [[image:405.png]]<br />
Infernape [[image:392.png]]<br />
Lucario [[image:448.png]]<br />
Empoleon [[image:395.png]]<br />
Staraptor [[image:398.png]]<br />
<br />
*This is my only team with all 3 starters. It began as an experiment on how to get all 3 in one team. I had multiple DSs, so I tried it. The team, along with Platinum, is currently training to win the elite four challenge, as the levels are not high enough.<br />
<br />
== How I develop my pokemon teams ==<br />
<br />
I have determined that it is important to have a fire type, electric type, water type, and flying type in all of my teams. That typically leaves me two open spaces. Those spaces are filled with pokemon of various types.--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 17:48, 31 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Fire Red Team ==<br />
<br />
Venusaur [[image: 003.png]] Raichu [[image: 026.png]] Arcanine [[image: 059.png]] Mr. Mime [[image: 122.png]] Cloyster [[image: 091.png]] Pidgeot [[image: 018.png]]<br />
<br />
== First Black Unova Team ==<br />
Excadrill [[image:530.png]]<br />
Zebrstrika [[image:523.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Vanilluxe [[image:584.png]]<br />
Carracosta [[image:565.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
== Second Black Unova Team ==<br />
Krookodile [[image:553.png]]<br />
Galvantula [[image:596.png]]<br />
Darmanitan [[image:555.png]]<br />
Gothitelle [[image:576.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Swanna [[image:581.png]]<br />
<br />
== White Unova Team ==<br />
Excadrill [[image:530.png]]<br />
Zebstrika [[image:523.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Scolipede [[image:545.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
<br />
== Heartgold Team ==<br />
Donphan [[image:232.png]]<br />
Ampharos [[image:181.png]]<br />
Typhlosion [[image:157.png]]<br />
Togekiss [[image:468.png]]<br />
Gyrados [[image:130.png]]<br />
Honchkrow [[image:430.png]]<br />
<br />
== Gym Challenge ==<br />
I am in the process of training all of my teams and creating my own series of game gyms. This is the order that a challenger will battle them:<br />
1.Heartgold<br />
2.Diamond<br />
3.White<br />
4.Platinum<br />
5.Soulsilver<br />
6.Black<br />
7.Pearl<br />
8.Ruby (on Pearl)<br />
Expected finish date: Summer 2012<br />
<br />
== Black 2 & White 2 == <br />
Black 2:<br />
Excadrill [[image:530.png]]<br />
Galvantula [[image:596.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Haxorus [[image:612.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
White 2:<br />
Gigalith [[image:526.png]]<br />
Galvantula [[image:596.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Stoutland [[File:508.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
*With these teams, I am using three types I have never used before. In Black 2, I am using a dragon. In White 2, I am using a normal type. I originally intended to have Excadrill in both, but I got a Roggenrola. It will eventually be a Gigalith. These are major firsts for my teams and my games.<br />
== Pokemon X and Y ==<br />
The starters look interesting. As far as my favorite, it is hard to tell, since the games were just released today. When picking a starter, there are several factors I take into account. 1st, what the finl evolved forms are. This is only a small factor, but it is a factor. 2nd, what the gym leader and elite 4 lineup is. This is the single largest factor. Usually, I pick my starter based on ho many gyms the starter can fight in. Once the calculation comes into effect, the third factor comes into question. The third factor is what other Pokemon are in the region. It helps set up the Pokemon lineup.<br />
I am looking forward to X and Y.</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cameron_(Unova)&diff=1812859Talk:Cameron (Unova)2012-12-08T18:10:12Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Kotetsu's Riolu */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Riolu's gender==<br />
When was it confirmed to be male? On the night of the airing, I saw it mentioned somewhere that it got confirmed because Emboar's Attract failed. But... Emboar never used Attract on Riolu. I can't seem to find what article it was mentioned in (probably removed for inaccuracy), but was there something else I missed that confirmed Riolu's gender besides the game tournament? --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 09:19, 2 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Kotetsu&diff=next&oldid=1806936 ...] Riolu's gender is not known. And I don't think I have missed any of Riolu's appearances. [[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#009900;">'''Adyniz'''</span>]] — [[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#003399;">'''Wanna talk?'''</span>]] 09:50, 2 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
::Looks like he guessed the gender for no reason. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 13:13, 2 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::So, shouldn't we remove the gender then? [[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]][[User:GamerGeek|<span style="color:blue">Gamer</span>]][[User talk:GamerGeek|<span style="color:gold">Geek</span>]][[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]] 00:38, 4 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
::::It ''was'' removed. He put it back because of the event. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 00:47, 4 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::::What event? [[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]][[User:GamerGeek|<span style="color:blue">Gamer</span>]][[User talk:GamerGeek|<span style="color:gold">Geek</span>]][[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]] 01:25, 4 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
::::::Look at the In the games section. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 01:28, 4 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::::::The game Kotetsu has a Lucario, not a Riolu, so the event isn't completely accurate (unless Riolu were to evolve in the anime). [[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]][[User:GamerGeek|<span style="color:blue">Gamer</span>]][[User talk:GamerGeek|<span style="color:gold">Geek</span>]][[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]] 01:35, 4 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
::::::::It's going to. See how Stephan has Liepard despite him not revealing it yet? [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 01:38, 4 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Well, it's possible that a Lucario belongs to another trainer competing in the League, and the game designers could've overlooked that. [[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]][[User:GamerGeek|<span style="color:blue">Gamer</span>]][[User talk:GamerGeek|<span style="color:gold">Geek</span>]][[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]] 01:52, 4 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Well, Riolu's gender has been removed, and it's staying unconfirmed (though I was going to suggest a sort of "compromise" in saying that it's confirmed male only in the games, if Lucario really is its game counterpart). [[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]][[User:GamerGeek|<span style="color:blue">Gamer</span>]][[User talk:GamerGeek|<span style="color:gold">Geek</span>]][[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]] 07:38, 4 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Kotetsu's Riolu ==<br />
<br />
I know it is set to reappear in [[BW107]] and I say it can deserve its own page, I don't know... What do you think [[User:Igor Castro Chucre/Kotetsu's Riolu|Kotetsu's Riolu]]--[[User:Igor Castro Chucre|Igor ]] ([[User talk:Igor Castro Chucre|talk]]) 20:26, 3 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
== Kotetsu's Riolu Potential Evolution in BW108? ==<br />
Hey. I was looking at BW108. It listed a Lucario as one of the pokemon in the episode. Could that mean that Riolu evolves at some point during the Conference? Shouldn't Kotetsu's page be protected until BW108? --[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 18:10, 8 December 2012 (UTC)</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Pokemon26&diff=1810109User:Pokemon262012-12-05T03:39:43Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Black 2 & White 2 */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Pokemon 26 ==<br />
Hi! Welcome to my user page. I have been a fan of Pokemon since Red and Blue in 1998. I am working on a number of Pokemon projects. I am going to put here my current competion status for each of my games.<br />
Red/Blue/Yellow-Completed, but can no longer play them.<br />
Gold/Silver Crystal-Completed, but can no longer play them.<br />
Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald-Completed Ruby, but not Sapphire or Emerald. May go back to them in the future, especially if no remakes are done.<br />
Fire Red/Leaf Green-May go back to them in the future.<br />
Heart Gold/Soul Silver-Completely finished Soul Silver. I was working on Heart Gold before Black and White 2 came out. Will work on it in the future.<br />
Black/White-Completely finished Black. I was working on White before Black and White 2 came out. Will work on it in the future.<br />
Black 2/White 2-Got to Victory Road in Black 2. I am on Gym 3 in White 2. Working on those currently.<br />
Here is the list of my projects I have to complete in the order I will complete them:<br />
Black 2 and White 2 (Hopefully will finish both to the elite 4 by Christmas, 2012. Complete finish is expected by Spring of 2013)<br />
White (Spring 2013)<br />
Heart Gold (Early Summer 2013)<br />
Fire Red and Leaf Green (Summer 2013)<br />
Sapphire and Emerald (Summer 2013)<br />
<br />
== A Little Background On Me ==<br />
My Pokemon journey began at the age of 6 in 1998 with Pokemon Red and Blue. I played Red, and my sister played Blue. In those early days, I was easily frustrated by playing, so my mom played to help me. Anyway, I got through Red with all 151 Pokemon (including Mew). Then came Johto in 2000. I played Silver and my mom played Gold. The game no longer works.<br />
Then came Hoenn. It was 2003 when I started Hoenn. I was 11 years old, and my mom officially stopped playing the games, so it was the first region that I was playing alone. I mastered Hoenn in the 6 years I was there, from 2003-2009. In 2009, I woke up one morning and realized I was bored with Hoenn. I had started Pearl and Diamond in 2007 with everyone else (and even had a Manaphy from the event), but I really did not play it at the time. In 2009, Sinnoh had been played by most fans to that point. I got into Sinnoh by repeatedly transferring my Manaphy back and forth between Pearl and Diamond and restarting the games after tranfer. Then I started playing Sinnoh. 1 year later, I had beaten Sinnoh in Pearl and started working on Platinum and Diamond (Both of whitch I still am working on). Then came the rebirth of Johto in 2010. I have been playing that since. My other Pokemon related projects include making my own personal game-based battle frontier using my games and playing Fire Red and Leaf Green on my own time. <br />
When I got Black and White, I had many goals. My biggest goal was to capture all 156 new Pokemon. I was not able to do that. In Unova, many firsts occured for me. My first Black team is the standard team for me (Ground type, Electric type, Fire type, Ice type, Water type, Flying type). My second Black team has a Psychic type instead of an Ice type (a first). In White, my team has a Poison type (a first). I am trying to think of a team for a possible Pokemon Gray Version.On the gym side of it, I got to beat the gyms in a quick succession (in Black, 8 days, no joke. In White, slightly more). I wonder what will happen in Pokemon next.<br />
<br />
<br />
The following list is of groups I am a part of:<br />
{{User Project Routes}}<br />
{{User Male}}<br />
{{User Project Anime}}<br />
{{User Project Walkthroughs}}<br />
{{User Single}}<br />
{{User Project Games}}<br />
{{User Project Pokédex}}<br />
{{User Project CharacterDex}}<br />
{{User Liberal}}<br />
<br />
== Pokemon Teams ==<br />
<br />
I don't remember what my teams were for Red and Blue or Gold and Silver. I do know my teams for Ruby and Pearl and SoulSilver though. I will post those at a later date. Thank you!!!<br />
<br />
== Ruby Version ==<br />
Sceptile [[Image:254.png]]<br />
Raichu [[Image:026.png]]<br />
Blaziken [[Image:257.png]]<br />
Glalie [[Image:362.png]]<br />
Gyrados [[Image:130.png]]<br />
Swellow [[Image:277.png]]<br />
<br />
I moved this team to Pearl.<br />
<br />
== Pearl Version ==<br />
Torterra [[Image:389.png]]<br />
Luxray [[Image:405.png]]<br />
Rapidash [[Image:078.png]]<br />
Lucario [[Image:448.png]]<br />
Floatzel [[Image:419.png]]<br />
Staraptor [[Image:398.png]]<br />
<br />
== Soulsilver Version ==<br />
Steelix [[image:208.png]]<br />
Ampharos [[image:181.png]]<br />
Typhlosion [[image:157.png]]<br />
Togekiss [[image:468.png]]<br />
Quagsire [[image:195.png]]<br />
Pidgeot [[image:018.png]]<br />
<br />
== Platinum Version ==<br />
Torterra [[image:389.png]]<br />
Luxray [[image:405.png]]<br />
Rapidash [[image:078.png]]<br />
Abomasnow [[image:460.png]]*<br />
Floatzel [[image:419.png]]<br />
Staraptor [[image:398.png]]<br />
<br />
*yes, I know I dropped Lucario from my team. I was going to use Abomasnow in my Pearl team, but Lucario went to the Elite Four instead. Abomasnow got his opportunity this time... plus, I needed something to beat that Gliscor (yes, I can use Floatzel, but I need to use that 4X vulnerability to ice to my advantage. :)<br />
<br />
== Diamond Version ==<br />
Torterra [[image:389.png]]<br />
Luxray [[image:405.png]]<br />
Infernape [[image:392.png]]<br />
Lucario [[image:448.png]]<br />
Empoleon [[image:395.png]]<br />
Staraptor [[image:398.png]]<br />
<br />
*This is my only team with all 3 starters. It began as an experiment on how to get all 3 in one team. I had multiple DSs, so I tried it. The team, along with Platinum, is currently training to win the elite four challenge, as the levels are not high enough.<br />
<br />
== How I develop my pokemon teams ==<br />
<br />
I have determined that it is important to have a fire type, electric type, water type, and flying type in all of my teams. That typically leaves me two open spaces. Those spaces are filled with pokemon of various types.--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 17:48, 31 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Fire Red Team ==<br />
<br />
Venusaur [[image: 003.png]] Raichu [[image: 026.png]] Arcanine [[image: 059.png]] Mr. Mime [[image: 122.png]] Cloyster [[image: 091.png]] Pidgeot [[image: 018.png]]<br />
<br />
== First Black Unova Team ==<br />
Excadrill [[image:530.png]]<br />
Zebrstrika [[image:523.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Vanilluxe [[image:584.png]]<br />
Carracosta [[image:565.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
== Second Black Unova Team ==<br />
Krookodile [[image:553.png]]<br />
Galvantula [[image:596.png]]<br />
Darmanitan [[image:555.png]]<br />
Gothitelle [[image:576.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Swanna [[image:581.png]]<br />
<br />
== White Unova Team ==<br />
Excadrill [[image:530.png]]<br />
Zebstrika [[image:523.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Scolipede [[image:545.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
<br />
== Heartgold Team ==<br />
Donphan [[image:232.png]]<br />
Ampharos [[image:181.png]]<br />
Typhlosion [[image:157.png]]<br />
Togekiss [[image:468.png]]<br />
Gyrados [[image:130.png]]<br />
Honchkrow [[image:430.png]]<br />
<br />
== Gym Challenge ==<br />
I am in the process of training all of my teams and creating my own series of game gyms. This is the order that a challenger will battle them:<br />
1.Heartgold<br />
2.Diamond<br />
3.White<br />
4.Platinum<br />
5.Soulsilver<br />
6.Black<br />
7.Pearl<br />
8.Ruby (on Pearl)<br />
Expected finish date: Summer 2012<br />
<br />
== Black 2 & White 2 == <br />
Black 2:<br />
Excadrill [[image:530.png]]<br />
Galvantula [[image:596.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Haxorus [[image:612.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
White 2:<br />
Gigalith [[image:526.png]]<br />
Galvantula [[image:596.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Stoutland [[File:508.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
*With these teams, I am using three types I have never used before. In Black 2, I am using a dragon. In White 2, I am using a normal type. I originally intended to have Excadrill in both, but I got a Roggenrola. It will eventually be a Gigalith. These are major firsts for my teams and my games.</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Pokemon26&diff=1810108User:Pokemon262012-12-05T03:38:48Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Black 2 & White 2 */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Pokemon 26 ==<br />
Hi! Welcome to my user page. I have been a fan of Pokemon since Red and Blue in 1998. I am working on a number of Pokemon projects. I am going to put here my current competion status for each of my games.<br />
Red/Blue/Yellow-Completed, but can no longer play them.<br />
Gold/Silver Crystal-Completed, but can no longer play them.<br />
Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald-Completed Ruby, but not Sapphire or Emerald. May go back to them in the future, especially if no remakes are done.<br />
Fire Red/Leaf Green-May go back to them in the future.<br />
Heart Gold/Soul Silver-Completely finished Soul Silver. I was working on Heart Gold before Black and White 2 came out. Will work on it in the future.<br />
Black/White-Completely finished Black. I was working on White before Black and White 2 came out. Will work on it in the future.<br />
Black 2/White 2-Got to Victory Road in Black 2. I am on Gym 3 in White 2. Working on those currently.<br />
Here is the list of my projects I have to complete in the order I will complete them:<br />
Black 2 and White 2 (Hopefully will finish both to the elite 4 by Christmas, 2012. Complete finish is expected by Spring of 2013)<br />
White (Spring 2013)<br />
Heart Gold (Early Summer 2013)<br />
Fire Red and Leaf Green (Summer 2013)<br />
Sapphire and Emerald (Summer 2013)<br />
<br />
== A Little Background On Me ==<br />
My Pokemon journey began at the age of 6 in 1998 with Pokemon Red and Blue. I played Red, and my sister played Blue. In those early days, I was easily frustrated by playing, so my mom played to help me. Anyway, I got through Red with all 151 Pokemon (including Mew). Then came Johto in 2000. I played Silver and my mom played Gold. The game no longer works.<br />
Then came Hoenn. It was 2003 when I started Hoenn. I was 11 years old, and my mom officially stopped playing the games, so it was the first region that I was playing alone. I mastered Hoenn in the 6 years I was there, from 2003-2009. In 2009, I woke up one morning and realized I was bored with Hoenn. I had started Pearl and Diamond in 2007 with everyone else (and even had a Manaphy from the event), but I really did not play it at the time. In 2009, Sinnoh had been played by most fans to that point. I got into Sinnoh by repeatedly transferring my Manaphy back and forth between Pearl and Diamond and restarting the games after tranfer. Then I started playing Sinnoh. 1 year later, I had beaten Sinnoh in Pearl and started working on Platinum and Diamond (Both of whitch I still am working on). Then came the rebirth of Johto in 2010. I have been playing that since. My other Pokemon related projects include making my own personal game-based battle frontier using my games and playing Fire Red and Leaf Green on my own time. <br />
When I got Black and White, I had many goals. My biggest goal was to capture all 156 new Pokemon. I was not able to do that. In Unova, many firsts occured for me. My first Black team is the standard team for me (Ground type, Electric type, Fire type, Ice type, Water type, Flying type). My second Black team has a Psychic type instead of an Ice type (a first). In White, my team has a Poison type (a first). I am trying to think of a team for a possible Pokemon Gray Version.On the gym side of it, I got to beat the gyms in a quick succession (in Black, 8 days, no joke. In White, slightly more). I wonder what will happen in Pokemon next.<br />
<br />
<br />
The following list is of groups I am a part of:<br />
{{User Project Routes}}<br />
{{User Male}}<br />
{{User Project Anime}}<br />
{{User Project Walkthroughs}}<br />
{{User Single}}<br />
{{User Project Games}}<br />
{{User Project Pokédex}}<br />
{{User Project CharacterDex}}<br />
{{User Liberal}}<br />
<br />
== Pokemon Teams ==<br />
<br />
I don't remember what my teams were for Red and Blue or Gold and Silver. I do know my teams for Ruby and Pearl and SoulSilver though. I will post those at a later date. Thank you!!!<br />
<br />
== Ruby Version ==<br />
Sceptile [[Image:254.png]]<br />
Raichu [[Image:026.png]]<br />
Blaziken [[Image:257.png]]<br />
Glalie [[Image:362.png]]<br />
Gyrados [[Image:130.png]]<br />
Swellow [[Image:277.png]]<br />
<br />
I moved this team to Pearl.<br />
<br />
== Pearl Version ==<br />
Torterra [[Image:389.png]]<br />
Luxray [[Image:405.png]]<br />
Rapidash [[Image:078.png]]<br />
Lucario [[Image:448.png]]<br />
Floatzel [[Image:419.png]]<br />
Staraptor [[Image:398.png]]<br />
<br />
== Soulsilver Version ==<br />
Steelix [[image:208.png]]<br />
Ampharos [[image:181.png]]<br />
Typhlosion [[image:157.png]]<br />
Togekiss [[image:468.png]]<br />
Quagsire [[image:195.png]]<br />
Pidgeot [[image:018.png]]<br />
<br />
== Platinum Version ==<br />
Torterra [[image:389.png]]<br />
Luxray [[image:405.png]]<br />
Rapidash [[image:078.png]]<br />
Abomasnow [[image:460.png]]*<br />
Floatzel [[image:419.png]]<br />
Staraptor [[image:398.png]]<br />
<br />
*yes, I know I dropped Lucario from my team. I was going to use Abomasnow in my Pearl team, but Lucario went to the Elite Four instead. Abomasnow got his opportunity this time... plus, I needed something to beat that Gliscor (yes, I can use Floatzel, but I need to use that 4X vulnerability to ice to my advantage. :)<br />
<br />
== Diamond Version ==<br />
Torterra [[image:389.png]]<br />
Luxray [[image:405.png]]<br />
Infernape [[image:392.png]]<br />
Lucario [[image:448.png]]<br />
Empoleon [[image:395.png]]<br />
Staraptor [[image:398.png]]<br />
<br />
*This is my only team with all 3 starters. It began as an experiment on how to get all 3 in one team. I had multiple DSs, so I tried it. The team, along with Platinum, is currently training to win the elite four challenge, as the levels are not high enough.<br />
<br />
== How I develop my pokemon teams ==<br />
<br />
I have determined that it is important to have a fire type, electric type, water type, and flying type in all of my teams. That typically leaves me two open spaces. Those spaces are filled with pokemon of various types.--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 17:48, 31 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Fire Red Team ==<br />
<br />
Venusaur [[image: 003.png]] Raichu [[image: 026.png]] Arcanine [[image: 059.png]] Mr. Mime [[image: 122.png]] Cloyster [[image: 091.png]] Pidgeot [[image: 018.png]]<br />
<br />
== First Black Unova Team ==<br />
Excadrill [[image:530.png]]<br />
Zebrstrika [[image:523.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Vanilluxe [[image:584.png]]<br />
Carracosta [[image:565.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
== Second Black Unova Team ==<br />
Krookodile [[image:553.png]]<br />
Galvantula [[image:596.png]]<br />
Darmanitan [[image:555.png]]<br />
Gothitelle [[image:576.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Swanna [[image:581.png]]<br />
<br />
== White Unova Team ==<br />
Excadrill [[image:530.png]]<br />
Zebstrika [[image:523.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Scolipede [[image:545.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
<br />
== Heartgold Team ==<br />
Donphan [[image:232.png]]<br />
Ampharos [[image:181.png]]<br />
Typhlosion [[image:157.png]]<br />
Togekiss [[image:468.png]]<br />
Gyrados [[image:130.png]]<br />
Honchkrow [[image:430.png]]<br />
<br />
== Gym Challenge ==<br />
I am in the process of training all of my teams and creating my own series of game gyms. This is the order that a challenger will battle them:<br />
1.Heartgold<br />
2.Diamond<br />
3.White<br />
4.Platinum<br />
5.Soulsilver<br />
6.Black<br />
7.Pearl<br />
8.Ruby (on Pearl)<br />
Expected finish date: Summer 2012<br />
<br />
== Black 2 & White 2 == <br />
Black 2:<br />
Gigalith [[image:526.png]]<br />
Galvantula [[image:596.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Haxorus [[image:612.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
White 2:<br />
Excadrill [[image:530.png]]<br />
Galvantula [[image:596.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Stoutland [[File:508.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
*With these teams, I am using three types I have never used before. In Black 2, I am using a dragon. In White 2, I am using a normal type. I originally intended to have Excadrill in both, but I got a Roggenrola. It will eventually be a Gigalith. These are major firsts for my teams and my games.</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Pokemon26&diff=1795001User:Pokemon262012-11-09T16:47:04Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Pokemon 26 */</p>
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<div>== Pokemon 26 ==<br />
Hi! Welcome to my user page. I have been a fan of Pokemon since Red and Blue in 1998. I am working on a number of Pokemon projects. I am going to put here my current competion status for each of my games.<br />
Red/Blue/Yellow-Completed, but can no longer play them.<br />
Gold/Silver Crystal-Completed, but can no longer play them.<br />
Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald-Completed Ruby, but not Sapphire or Emerald. May go back to them in the future, especially if no remakes are done.<br />
Fire Red/Leaf Green-May go back to them in the future.<br />
Heart Gold/Soul Silver-Completely finished Soul Silver. I was working on Heart Gold before Black and White 2 came out. Will work on it in the future.<br />
Black/White-Completely finished Black. I was working on White before Black and White 2 came out. Will work on it in the future.<br />
Black 2/White 2-Got to Victory Road in Black 2. I am on Gym 3 in White 2. Working on those currently.<br />
Here is the list of my projects I have to complete in the order I will complete them:<br />
Black 2 and White 2 (Hopefully will finish both to the elite 4 by Christmas, 2012. Complete finish is expected by Spring of 2013)<br />
White (Spring 2013)<br />
Heart Gold (Early Summer 2013)<br />
Fire Red and Leaf Green (Summer 2013)<br />
Sapphire and Emerald (Summer 2013)<br />
<br />
== A Little Background On Me ==<br />
My Pokemon journey began at the age of 6 in 1998 with Pokemon Red and Blue. I played Red, and my sister played Blue. In those early days, I was easily frustrated by playing, so my mom played to help me. Anyway, I got through Red with all 151 Pokemon (including Mew). Then came Johto in 2000. I played Silver and my mom played Gold. The game no longer works.<br />
Then came Hoenn. It was 2003 when I started Hoenn. I was 11 years old, and my mom officially stopped playing the games, so it was the first region that I was playing alone. I mastered Hoenn in the 6 years I was there, from 2003-2009. In 2009, I woke up one morning and realized I was bored with Hoenn. I had started Pearl and Diamond in 2007 with everyone else (and even had a Manaphy from the event), but I really did not play it at the time. In 2009, Sinnoh had been played by most fans to that point. I got into Sinnoh by repeatedly transferring my Manaphy back and forth between Pearl and Diamond and restarting the games after tranfer. Then I started playing Sinnoh. 1 year later, I had beaten Sinnoh in Pearl and started working on Platinum and Diamond (Both of whitch I still am working on). Then came the rebirth of Johto in 2010. I have been playing that since. My other Pokemon related projects include making my own personal game-based battle frontier using my games and playing Fire Red and Leaf Green on my own time. <br />
When I got Black and White, I had many goals. My biggest goal was to capture all 156 new Pokemon. I was not able to do that. In Unova, many firsts occured for me. My first Black team is the standard team for me (Ground type, Electric type, Fire type, Ice type, Water type, Flying type). My second Black team has a Psychic type instead of an Ice type (a first). In White, my team has a Poison type (a first). I am trying to think of a team for a possible Pokemon Gray Version.On the gym side of it, I got to beat the gyms in a quick succession (in Black, 8 days, no joke. In White, slightly more). I wonder what will happen in Pokemon next.<br />
<br />
<br />
The following list is of groups I am a part of:<br />
{{User Project Routes}}<br />
{{User Male}}<br />
{{User Project Anime}}<br />
{{User Project Walkthroughs}}<br />
{{User Single}}<br />
{{User Project Games}}<br />
{{User Project Pokédex}}<br />
{{User Project CharacterDex}}<br />
{{User Liberal}}<br />
<br />
== Pokemon Teams ==<br />
<br />
I don't remember what my teams were for Red and Blue or Gold and Silver. I do know my teams for Ruby and Pearl and SoulSilver though. I will post those at a later date. Thank you!!!<br />
<br />
== Ruby Version ==<br />
Sceptile [[Image:254.png]]<br />
Raichu [[Image:026.png]]<br />
Blaziken [[Image:257.png]]<br />
Glalie [[Image:362.png]]<br />
Gyrados [[Image:130.png]]<br />
Swellow [[Image:277.png]]<br />
<br />
I moved this team to Pearl.<br />
<br />
== Pearl Version ==<br />
Torterra [[Image:389.png]]<br />
Luxray [[Image:405.png]]<br />
Rapidash [[Image:078.png]]<br />
Lucario [[Image:448.png]]<br />
Floatzel [[Image:419.png]]<br />
Staraptor [[Image:398.png]]<br />
<br />
== Soulsilver Version ==<br />
Steelix [[image:208.png]]<br />
Ampharos [[image:181.png]]<br />
Typhlosion [[image:157.png]]<br />
Togekiss [[image:468.png]]<br />
Quagsire [[image:195.png]]<br />
Pidgeot [[image:018.png]]<br />
<br />
== Platinum Version ==<br />
Torterra [[image:389.png]]<br />
Luxray [[image:405.png]]<br />
Rapidash [[image:078.png]]<br />
Abomasnow [[image:460.png]]*<br />
Floatzel [[image:419.png]]<br />
Staraptor [[image:398.png]]<br />
<br />
*yes, I know I dropped Lucario from my team. I was going to use Abomasnow in my Pearl team, but Lucario went to the Elite Four instead. Abomasnow got his opportunity this time... plus, I needed something to beat that Gliscor (yes, I can use Floatzel, but I need to use that 4X vulnerability to ice to my advantage. :)<br />
<br />
== Diamond Version ==<br />
Torterra [[image:389.png]]<br />
Luxray [[image:405.png]]<br />
Infernape [[image:392.png]]<br />
Lucario [[image:448.png]]<br />
Empoleon [[image:395.png]]<br />
Staraptor [[image:398.png]]<br />
<br />
*This is my only team with all 3 starters. It began as an experiment on how to get all 3 in one team. I had multiple DSs, so I tried it. The team, along with Platinum, is currently training to win the elite four challenge, as the levels are not high enough.<br />
<br />
== How I develop my pokemon teams ==<br />
<br />
I have determined that it is important to have a fire type, electric type, water type, and flying type in all of my teams. That typically leaves me two open spaces. Those spaces are filled with pokemon of various types.--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 17:48, 31 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Fire Red Team ==<br />
<br />
Venusaur [[image: 003.png]] Raichu [[image: 026.png]] Arcanine [[image: 059.png]] Mr. Mime [[image: 122.png]] Cloyster [[image: 091.png]] Pidgeot [[image: 018.png]]<br />
<br />
== First Black Unova Team ==<br />
Excadrill [[image:530.png]]<br />
Zebrstrika [[image:523.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Vanilluxe [[image:584.png]]<br />
Carracosta [[image:565.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
== Second Black Unova Team ==<br />
Krookodile [[image:553.png]]<br />
Galvantula [[image:596.png]]<br />
Darmanitan [[image:555.png]]<br />
Gothitelle [[image:576.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Swanna [[image:581.png]]<br />
<br />
== White Unova Team ==<br />
Excadrill [[image:530.png]]<br />
Zebstrika [[image:523.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Scolipede [[image:545.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
<br />
== Heartgold Team ==<br />
Donphan [[image:232.png]]<br />
Ampharos [[image:181.png]]<br />
Typhlosion [[image:157.png]]<br />
Togekiss [[image:468.png]]<br />
Gyrados [[image:130.png]]<br />
Honchkrow [[image:430.png]]<br />
<br />
== Gym Challenge ==<br />
I am in the process of training all of my teams and creating my own series of game gyms. This is the order that a challenger will battle them:<br />
1.Heartgold<br />
2.Diamond<br />
3.White<br />
4.Platinum<br />
5.Soulsilver<br />
6.Black<br />
7.Pearl<br />
8.Ruby (on Pearl)<br />
Expected finish date: Summer 2012<br />
<br />
== Black 2 & White 2 == <br />
Black 2:<br />
Excadrill [[image:530.png]]<br />
Galvantula [[image:596.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Haxorus [[image:612.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
White 2:<br />
Excadrill [[image:530.png]]<br />
Galvantula [[image:596.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Stoutland [[File:508.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
*With these teams, I am using two types I have never used before. In Black 2, I am using a dragon. In White 2, I am using a normal type. These are major firsts for my teams and my games.</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Village_of_Dragons&diff=1794788Talk:Village of Dragons2012-11-08T22:31:30Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Still an Anime-only location? */</p>
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<div>any idea where this village is near?[[User:AquaMaster|AquaMaster]] 00:03, 28 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
:No. It hasn't been revealed yet. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 00:17, 28 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Still an Anime-only location? ==<br />
<br />
This may be a dumb question, but bear with me. Should The Village of Dragons still be considered an Anime-only location now that it has been mentioned in Black and Whit 2? {{unsigned|Shadowsnorlaxman32}}<br />
:You can't visit it in the games so I think it should still be considered an anime only location. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 06:35, 17 August 2012 (UTC)<br />
== BW 101 Anime Location Confirmation? ==<br />
BW 101 aired today. Considering that Ash arrived in Opelucid City so quickly after being in the Village of Dragons, can we now say that the Village of Dragons is close to Opelucid City?--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 22:31, 8 November 2012 (UTC)</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Pokemon26&diff=1782768User:Pokemon262012-10-19T16:12:43Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Black 2 & White 2 */</p>
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<div>== Pokemon 26 ==<br />
Hi! Welcome to my user page. I have been a fan of Pokemon for 13 years starting with Pokemon Red and Blue. I am currently playing Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver and Platinum. I am anticipating the release of Pokemon Black and White.<br />
<br />
== A Little Background On Me ==<br />
My Pokemon journey began at the age of 6 in 1998 with Pokemon Red and Blue. I played Red, and my sister played Blue. In those early days, I was easily frustrated by playing, so my mom played to help me. Anyway, I got through Red with all 151 Pokemon (including Mew). Then came Johto in 2000. I played Silver and my mom played Gold. The game no longer works.<br />
Then came Hoenn. It was 2003 when I started Hoenn. I was 11 years old, and my mom officially stopped playing the games, so it was the first region that I was playing alone. I mastered Hoenn in the 6 years I was there, from 2003-2009. In 2009, I woke up one morning and realized I was bored with Hoenn. I had started Pearl and Diamond in 2007 with everyone else (and even had a Manaphy from the event), but I really did not play it at the time. In 2009, Sinnoh had been played by most fans to that point. I got into Sinnoh by repeatedly transferring my Manaphy back and forth between Pearl and Diamond and restarting the games after tranfer. Then I started playing Sinnoh. 1 year later, I had beaten Sinnoh in Pearl and started working on Platinum and Diamond (Both of whitch I still am working on). Then came the rebirth of Johto in 2010. I have been playing that since. My other Pokemon related projects include making my own personal game-based battle frontier using my games and playing Fire Red and Leaf Green on my own time. <br />
When I got Black and White, I had many goals. My biggest goal was to capture all 156 new Pokemon. I was not able to do that. In Unova, many firsts occured for me. My first Black team is the standard team for me (Ground type, Electric type, Fire type, Ice type, Water type, Flying type). My second Black team has a Psychic type instead of an Ice type (a first). In White, my team has a Poison type (a first). I am trying to think of a team for a possible Pokemon Gray Version.On the gym side of it, I got to beat the gyms in a quick succession (in Black, 8 days, no joke. In White, slightly more). I wonder what will happen in Pokemon next.<br />
<br />
<br />
The following list is of groups I am a part of:<br />
{{User Project Routes}}<br />
{{User Male}}<br />
{{User Project Anime}}<br />
{{User Project Walkthroughs}}<br />
{{User Single}}<br />
{{User Project Games}}<br />
{{User Project Pokédex}}<br />
{{User Project CharacterDex}}<br />
{{User Liberal}}<br />
<br />
== Pokemon Teams ==<br />
<br />
I don't remember what my teams were for Red and Blue or Gold and Silver. I do know my teams for Ruby and Pearl and SoulSilver though. I will post those at a later date. Thank you!!!<br />
<br />
== Ruby Version ==<br />
Sceptile [[Image:254.png]]<br />
Raichu [[Image:026.png]]<br />
Blaziken [[Image:257.png]]<br />
Glalie [[Image:362.png]]<br />
Gyrados [[Image:130.png]]<br />
Swellow [[Image:277.png]]<br />
<br />
I moved this team to Pearl.<br />
<br />
== Pearl Version ==<br />
Torterra [[Image:389.png]]<br />
Luxray [[Image:405.png]]<br />
Rapidash [[Image:078.png]]<br />
Lucario [[Image:448.png]]<br />
Floatzel [[Image:419.png]]<br />
Staraptor [[Image:398.png]]<br />
<br />
== Soulsilver Version ==<br />
Steelix [[image:208.png]]<br />
Ampharos [[image:181.png]]<br />
Typhlosion [[image:157.png]]<br />
Togekiss [[image:468.png]]<br />
Quagsire [[image:195.png]]<br />
Pidgeot [[image:018.png]]<br />
<br />
== Platinum Version ==<br />
Torterra [[image:389.png]]<br />
Luxray [[image:405.png]]<br />
Rapidash [[image:078.png]]<br />
Abomasnow [[image:460.png]]*<br />
Floatzel [[image:419.png]]<br />
Staraptor [[image:398.png]]<br />
<br />
*yes, I know I dropped Lucario from my team. I was going to use Abomasnow in my Pearl team, but Lucario went to the Elite Four instead. Abomasnow got his opportunity this time... plus, I needed something to beat that Gliscor (yes, I can use Floatzel, but I need to use that 4X vulnerability to ice to my advantage. :)<br />
<br />
== Diamond Version ==<br />
Torterra [[image:389.png]]<br />
Luxray [[image:405.png]]<br />
Infernape [[image:392.png]]<br />
Lucario [[image:448.png]]<br />
Empoleon [[image:395.png]]<br />
Staraptor [[image:398.png]]<br />
<br />
*This is my only team with all 3 starters. It began as an experiment on how to get all 3 in one team. I had multiple DSs, so I tried it. The team, along with Platinum, is currently training to win the elite four challenge, as the levels are not high enough.<br />
<br />
== How I develop my pokemon teams ==<br />
<br />
I have determined that it is important to have a fire type, electric type, water type, and flying type in all of my teams. That typically leaves me two open spaces. Those spaces are filled with pokemon of various types.--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 17:48, 31 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Fire Red Team ==<br />
<br />
Venusaur [[image: 003.png]] Raichu [[image: 026.png]] Arcanine [[image: 059.png]] Mr. Mime [[image: 122.png]] Cloyster [[image: 091.png]] Pidgeot [[image: 018.png]]<br />
<br />
== First Black Unova Team ==<br />
Excadrill [[image:530.png]]<br />
Zebrstrika [[image:523.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Vanilluxe [[image:584.png]]<br />
Carracosta [[image:565.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
== Second Black Unova Team ==<br />
Krookodile [[image:553.png]]<br />
Galvantula [[image:596.png]]<br />
Darmanitan [[image:555.png]]<br />
Gothitelle [[image:576.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Swanna [[image:581.png]]<br />
<br />
== White Unova Team ==<br />
Excadrill [[image:530.png]]<br />
Zebstrika [[image:523.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Scolipede [[image:545.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
<br />
== Heartgold Team ==<br />
Donphan [[image:232.png]]<br />
Ampharos [[image:181.png]]<br />
Typhlosion [[image:157.png]]<br />
Togekiss [[image:468.png]]<br />
Gyrados [[image:130.png]]<br />
Honchkrow [[image:430.png]]<br />
<br />
== Gym Challenge ==<br />
I am in the process of training all of my teams and creating my own series of game gyms. This is the order that a challenger will battle them:<br />
1.Heartgold<br />
2.Diamond<br />
3.White<br />
4.Platinum<br />
5.Soulsilver<br />
6.Black<br />
7.Pearl<br />
8.Ruby (on Pearl)<br />
Expected finish date: Summer 2012<br />
<br />
== Black 2 & White 2 == <br />
Black 2:<br />
Excadrill [[image:530.png]]<br />
Galvantula [[image:596.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Haxorus [[image:612.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
White 2:<br />
Excadrill [[image:530.png]]<br />
Galvantula [[image:596.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Stoutland [[508.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
*With these teams, I am using two types I have never used before. In Black 2, I am using a dragon. In White 2, I am using a normal type. These are major firsts for my teams and my games.</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Humilau_Gym&diff=1773280Talk:Humilau Gym2012-09-27T03:01:01Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Humilau Gym */</p>
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<div>==Humilau Gym==<br />
<br />
This has since been confirmed to be localised as '''Humilau Gym''' on the [https://www.pokemon.com/us/account/play-pokemon-leagues/3403/?y=2013&m=7 official Pokémon website]. [[User:Shiny Porygon|Shiny Porygon]] ([[User talk:Shiny Porygon|talk]]) 17:19, 21 September 2012 (UTC)<br />
::I can't see anywhere on the page that it confirms Seigaiha City as "Humilau City". So we might have to move this page back to '''Seigaiha Gym''', not until a visible page for everyone to see is available, remember... it needs notability. —[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 09:27, 22 September 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::Hover the mouse over the August 12 on the calendar.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 09:34, 22 September 2012 (UTC)<br />
::::[http://i49.tinypic.com/2znzwit.png What they] said. [[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#009900;">'''Adyniz'''</span>]] — [[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#003399;">'''Wanna talk?'''</span>]] 10:07, 22 September 2012 (UTC)<br />
== Trivia == <br />
This is the first gym that Ash goes to that he does not battle in. Is it noteworthy as trivia?--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 03:01, 27 September 2012 (UTC)</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Aspertia_Gym&diff=1749856Aspertia Gym2012-08-22T15:21:28Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Trivia */</p>
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<div>{{incomplete}}<br />
{{GymInfobox<br />
|name=Aspertia<br />
|characters=ヒオウギ<br />
|japanese=Hiougi<br />
|image=Aspertia Gym {{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: n}} mod 4}}|0=Winter|1=Spring|2=Summer|3=Autumn}}.png<br />
|location=Aspertia City<br />
|leader=[[Cheren]]<br />
|badge=Basic<br />
|type=Normal<br />
|region=Unova<br />
|battlefield=None.png<!--Aspertia Gym field.png--><br />
|colordark=909497<br />
|colorlight=C7C9CA<br />
}}<br />
The '''Aspertia Gym''' (Japanese: '''ヒオウギジム''' ''Hiougi Gym'') is the official [[Gym]] of [[Aspertia City]]. It is based on {{type|Normal}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}. The [[Gym Leader]] is [[Cheren]]. {{pkmn|Trainer}}s that defeat him receive the {{badge|Basic}}.<br />
<br />
==In the games==<br />
<!--{{sign|bwbuilding|Aspertia City Pokémon Gym<br>Leader: Cheren|}}--><br />
The Aspertia Gym is located in the backyard of the local [[Pokémon academy|Trainer's School]]. The Gym consists of two large battlefields where the player must battle two Trainers before challenging Cheren, who is located on a platform at the far end of the Gym.<br />
<br />
===Trainers===<br />
====[[Pokémon Black and White Versions 2|Pokémon Black 2 and White 2]]====<br />
{{Trainerheader|Normal}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|Spr B2W2 Youngster.png|Youngster|???|144|2|504|Patrat|♂|9|None|506|Lillipup|♂|9|None|36=シンヤ|37=Shinya}}<br />
{{Trainerdiv|Normal}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|Spr B2W2 Lass.png|Lass|???|144|2|506|Lillipup|♀|9|None|504|Patrat|♀|9|None|36=マリコ|37=Mariko}}<br />
{{Trainerdiv|Normal}}<br />
{{Trainerfooter|Normal|1}}<br />
{{-}}<br />
=====Normal Mode=====<br />
{{Party<br />
|color={{normal color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{normal color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{normal color light}}<br />
|sprite=Spr B2W2 Cheren.png<br />
|prize={{pdollar}}1560<br />
|class=Leader<br />
|name=Cheren<br />
|game=B2W2<br />
|location=Aspertia Gym<br />
|pokemon=2<br />
|pokemon1={{Pokémon<br />
|gen=5<br />
|game=Black<br />
|ndex=504<br />
|pokemon=Patrat<br />
|level=11<br />
|gender=<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=<br />
|move1=Work Up|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status<br />
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark|move2cat=Physical<br />
|move3=Tackle|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Physical<br />
|move4=Detect|move4type=Fighting|move4cat=Status<br />
}}<br />
|pokemon2={{Pokémon<br />
|gen=5<br />
|game=Black<br />
|ndex=506<br />
|pokemon=Lillipup<br />
|level=13<br />
|gender=<br />
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==In the TCG==<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
* The Aspertia Gym is the only Gym in the games to be located outside.<br />
** However, it is the second Gym to be located outside of a building, the first being the [[Generation II]] and [[Generation IV|IV]] [[Cinnabar Gym]].<br />
* The Aspertia Gym is the only Gym to replace another Gym that has previously appeared in the series; in this instance the [[Nacrene Gym]].<br />
* The Aspertia Gym is the first Gym to be located in a player's [[Hometown]]. <br />
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[[ja:ヒオウギジム]]</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ash%27s_Oshawott&diff=1748943Talk:Ash's Oshawott2012-08-20T15:53:00Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Bouffalant episode */</p>
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<div>== Picture? ==<br />
Perhaps a better picture could be used, like one that did have about a third of its body concealed? I'm sure there are at least a few full-body (if that's the aim) pictures. Heck, the one used for displaying Shell Blade could even be used.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 03:29, 1 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I think you DO know but in case you don't, Archives is Locked for now and normal users can't upload new images. So, either we can wait for its unlock date or an admin need to upload a new header. <span style="color:#FF0">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#00FA9A;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#9F9;">'''Niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#FF0">♪♫</span> 09:11, 1 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Actually, I didn't know.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 15:28, 1 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I thought the previous pic where it was preparing to use Shell Blade was a better shot. It wasn't covering it's face like it is now. --[[User:Gaiash|Gaiash]] 11:04, 3 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, but we can't use it because it's from a future episode. So, we can't and someone added shell blade in the moves section so I'm gonna hide it as Miju hasn't used it yet. <span style="color:#FF0">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#00FA9A;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#9F9;">'''Niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#FF0">♪♫</span> 11:20, 3 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Didn't Mijumaru actually use shell blade in the second episode when it poked a hole in team rockets balloon?[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 22:21, 3 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:No, it just used it as a boomerang. Its shell glows when it uses Shell Blade. I've uploaded the header and water gun pictures for now, they are not in super high quality but I've to go to uni now. So, I'll upload remaining images later. <span style="color:#FF0">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#00FA9A;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#9F9;">'''Niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#FF0">♪♫</span> 01:32, 4 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Good point. The one that was up at the time was also from a future episode so at the time that didn't seem to be the issue. I like the pic that's being used now though. --[[User:Gaiash|Gaiash]] 05:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::It was an issue at that time also but I didn't notice it. But the moment it clicked in my mind, I replaced the pic with a new one. <span style="color:#FF0">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#00FA9A;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#9F9;">'''Niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#FF0">♪♫</span> 07:37, 5 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Regarding a piece of trivia... ==<br />
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The one about debuting before mamepato but being captured after, being the only unowned pokemon to do so... I dont think we ahould keep that not owned by a trainer part, because thats getting too specific (In my opinion at least). Also, didnt prof aragagi own it?--[[User:Burgundy|<font color="orange">Bu</font><font color="red">rg</font>]][[User talk: Burgundy|<font color="blue">un</font><font color="green">dy</font>]] 23:38, 14 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Ya that true it is still owned by Professor Aragagi.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 22:42, 15 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Whoa, whoa, whoa... ==<br />
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Just checked back. In my opinion, there was WAY TOO MUCH cut from the History section from this article. It needs to be reverted, in order to bring back most, if not all, of what was cut. I could be wrong, but I don't think so. I thought the articles here were supposed to be detailed and informative, not bare bones that do not tell you anything about the Pokémon or it's personality. --[[User:Jediknightdtv|<span style="color:blue">JediKnight</span>]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|<span style="color:green">DTV</span>]] 05:08, 22 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:It's better than the way it was. You were being far too descriptive for only six episodes. It was almost like a synopsis. Where would be put information for future episodes? --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 05:17, 22 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Isn't it better to air on the side of too descriptive rather than not, at least for the moment, with so few episodes aired? After all, there is plenty of time to cut stuff later, when the new episodes air. I agree with you KG, when the new episodes air, we would need to cut stuff. However, for the moment, with only half a dozen episodes aired, I feel like more detail would be better than less. Besides, I have to admit, I have a soft spot for the little guy. I find him absolutely hilarious, one of Ash's most entertaining Pokémon he has ever had, in my opinion. --[[User:Jediknightdtv|<span style="color:blue">JediKnight</span>]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|<span style="color:green">DTV</span>]] 05:27, 22 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::You've still got five whole paragraphs—there's plenty of history for now, most of which will be cut out in the future. Some of Ash's Pokémon have shorter history sections than this (and are long enough). It's meant to detail specific changes, such as catching it, sending it away, learning a move, personal growth, evolution, etc. not what it does in each episode. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#444444">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#C3C3C3">'''Monster'''</span>]] 05:33, 22 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Shell? ==<br />
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Meh...I've been thinking..that Shell of Mijumaru's has been used for a lot of various things so far..so I was kind of wondering...wouldn't it be some kind of trivia that lists the various things Mijumaru has used it's shell for? <br />
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Example:<br />
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Mijumaru has used its shell for various things, so far it has used it as a<br />
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Boomerang [[BW002]]<br />
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Shield [[BW002]]<br />
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Towel [[BW003]]<br />
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Weapon [[BW006]]<br />
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and so on and so forth. I may be putting this too early as it hasn't been used for a lot of things..but I thought it might be some interesting trivia. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 04:41, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Rather than making a miscellaneous list at the end of the article, try working it into the page's substantial content. Trivia's good for the stuff that doesn't fit, but a lot of the time these things can be put elsewhere. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 04:52, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
: It also uses its shell to make a sound similar to Asian instrument.--[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#C11B17">でんのう</font>]] <font color="#347C2C">☢</font> [[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#151B8D">'''Z'''えんし</font>]] 09:01, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Mijumaru battling Tsutarja in BW007 == <br />
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I was just wondering as to why this was deleted??? It is a confirmed event so I don't see why we can put it in there.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 21:02, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:It hasn't aired yet. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange;">Jello</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b> 21:15, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Ok but it not like I put that Ash will capture it. I just put that mijumaru will battle a wild Tsutarja which was confirmed in the official preview. I'm not seeing the issue here. Plus the same thing is on mamepato's page and it did not get deleted, but when I put it on Pikachu's page it got deleted too. So please tell me the issue here?[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 21:24, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:If it's really confirmed then add it back in I guess. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange;">Jello</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b> 21:28, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Ok is it cool to put it on Pikachu's page too??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 21:33, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Sure. Are all 3 of them battling it though? <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange;">Jello</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b> 21:34, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Yep so is Pokabu but it's article is protected so can't do anything about that. If you want to see for your self go to youtube and type bw007 and the preview should come up.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 21:38, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Mijumaru has appeared in the most episodes in a row ==<br />
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With 8 appearances, and maybe more to come. Add to trivia?--[[User:Burgundy|<font color="yellow">Bu</font><font color="red">rg</font>]][[User talk: Burgundy|<font color="blue">un</font><font color="green">dy</font>]] 00:42, 5 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
:no, he needs at least a piplup level of appearances first [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 00:43, 5 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Er, i meant not including the main cast pokemon (Pikachu, Meowth, Togepi, Wobbuffet, Piplup)--[[User:Burgundy|<font color="yellow">Bu</font><font color="red">rg</font>]][[User talk: Burgundy|<font color="blue">un</font><font color="green">dy</font>]] 02:39, 5 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Doesn't seem that notable considering that you've already mentioned the main cast, and the series has only just begun. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange;">Jello</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b> 02:43, 5 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Regarding a Piece of Trivia ==<br />
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''"Also, each Water-type starter Pokémon so far obtained by a main character was not battled, Squirtle and Mijumaru wanted to join his team, while Ash fought and won against Misty for Totodile. Brock also did not battle Mudkip to obtain it. May received a Squirtle from Professor Oak and lastly, Dawn received Piplup from Professor Rowan."''<br><br />
Is this the place to mention this? This should probably be moved to the starter pokemon page under the anime similarities section.--[[User:Burgundy|<font color="yellow">Bu</font><font color="red">rg</font>]][[User talk: Burgundy|<font color="blue">un</font><font color="green">dy</font>]] 03:33, 10 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Not here. Move it if you want. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 03:52, 10 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Lisa Ortiz ==<br />
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I'm quite sure Lisa Ortiz is voicing the 'wott in the new dub, despite it being her first creature role. Listen to one of her vocal roles and Osh together: http://www.box.net/shared/d33l61o4uf I'll be reverting it back in a couple of days unless I hear otherwise, and I can find closer examples, believe me. [[User:Shift|Shift]] 21:36, 12 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Huh. Well can't deny that. You proved your case. Go ahead and add it back. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 21:44, 12 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you. :) [[User:Shift|Shift]] 22:33, 12 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Shell Blade ==<br />
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Do you guys think we should put in the trivia that Oshawott uses a variation of shell blade sometimes??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 07:18, 28 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:No. Why would we do that? It knows the move already in the Japanese anime and we update things here as the Japanese anime progresses.--[[User:Alex726|<font color="#7F7F7F">'''Alex'''</font><font color="#000000">'''726'''</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:Alex726|<font color="#007100">'''(T</font><font color="#DF0000">AL</font><font color="#0000A0">K)'''</font>]]</sub> 22:44, 28 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::And he's never used a variation [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 22:56, 28 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Actually, he has. He has a regular-looking Razor Shell attack and has another were the attack looks like a sword. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 23:13, 28 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::Not really, it's just the energy coming from the tip of the scalchop, not the side like he usually does. I'm not sure that counts as a variation though...doesn't really seem like one [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 23:15, 28 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Oh come thats a total variation same with pidove's air cutter in episode 7.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 23:35, 28 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Sice Kenji-girl says that he has I'm gonna go ahead and add it.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 00:35, 1 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Just out of sheer curiosity... ==<br />
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...can Oshawott breathe underwater, despite being based on a mammal (an {{wp|otter}})? If so, is this worthy of being added to the trivia section? Or is it just assumed that all {{t|Water}} Pokémon can breathe underwater in the anime? --[[User:Jediknightdtv|<span style="color:blue">ジェダイの騎士</span>]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|<span style="color:green">デジタルテレビ</span>]] 23:01, 19 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Intresting question. Maybe they really act like real mammals and they breath air. I don't think it should be added to trivia because we would have to add it to the other mammal related water pokemon including the Spheal and Wailmer families. Hope this helped. [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 23:17, 19 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
::All mammal Water Pokémon are shown to breathe (or at least seem like they're breathing) underwater. Buizel, Dewgong, Marill, etc... Not just Oshawott. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 23:21, 19 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Interesting, and good to know. Thanks KG!--[[User:Jediknightdtv|<span style="color:blue">ジェダイの騎士</span>]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|<span style="color:green">デジタルテレビ</span>]] 23:24, 19 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Mijumaru vs Pansear ==<br />
Let me guess, Mijumaru's battle with Chili's Pansear wasn't important right??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 19:10, 8 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I think since it was agaist a recurring character, a gym leader infact, it is important, just no one had added it yet[[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 19:17, 8 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Improvised Move?? ==<br />
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Can the spinning water gun used in the gym battle against Clay be considered an improvised move??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 23:47, 12 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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So I guess this means no??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 06:15, 16 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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:I don't think it can count in the same league as Ice Aqua Jet and Counter Shield etc. I think it's best to leave it as it is [[User:Azure42|Azure/ChromeVoid42]] 16:06, 16 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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I would at least call it a variation right??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 18:55, 16 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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:I'd ask someone like Kenji or something [[User:Azure42|Azure/ChromeVoid42]] 20:28, 16 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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That's why I posted here, hoping one of them answers.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 03:16, 18 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== OshawottxEmolga ♥ ==<br />
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Oshawottt flurting with Emolga in BW062, that would be a perfect picture for here, could it be retrieved? [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 13:20, 5 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Dub Name Pronounciation ==<br />
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One thing that I've noticed is that Oshawott pronounces his name as it is spelled, but characters are pronouncing it as Osh-ew/oo-wott instead. Anyone know why they do this? {{unsigned|G50}}<br />
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== Personality and characteristics ==<br />
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For this section, should one note that Oshawott would every once in a while get into a scrape with [[Ash's Pignite]], back when he was a Tepig? I think this might be noted for Oshawott's personality, and Pignite's as well on his page. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] 18:27, 7 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
:I'll type up BW066 in the starter's history when I get the chance, Oshawott and Tepig's fight in BW074 will be mentioned [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 21:31, 7 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Bouffalant episode ==<br />
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Oshawott's part in this episode has been removed, while I think its still notable I can understand why TG thinks it is not. However the episode is still on Pignite and Snivy's page so let us all agree here wheather or not it should be on or off the three's pages [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 12:54, 12 July 2012 (UTC)<br />
:I think it's a case by case basis. Nothing says it can't be on the other two if it's not here. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 05:20, 13 July 2012 (UTC)<br />
== BW094 and Oshawott's Evolution ==<br />
I was just wondering that since we know the episode title for BW094, could that mean that Oshawott is to evolve twice between now and the airing of the episode? After all, the title mentions Samurott? Should this page be protected, just in case? --[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 15:53, 20 August 2012 (UTC)</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bianca%27s_Emboar&diff=1742149Talk:Bianca's Emboar2012-08-10T16:27:13Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Just a thought */</p>
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<div>== Games ==<br />
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Bianca has also a Pignite in the games so don't tis be added?--[[User:Nazirbashir|Nazirbashir]] 17:05, 29 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
:We don't do that for anime couterpart rival Pokemon, not sure why, we do it in manga but those are the rules [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 19:49, 29 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== As a Tepig? ==<br />
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What evidence is there that Bianca got Pignite as a Tepig? How do we now she got it from Juniper? We have no evidence, so why is said that it was a Tepig at first? :--[[User:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:green">SuperAipom7</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:purple">Wanna chat?</span>]])''</small> 02:24, 2 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Well, Pignite was the only pokemon bianca had before obtaining minccino so it was most likely her starter.[[User:TyphlosionTrent|TyphlosionTrent]] 03:40, 26 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Offered for trade ==<br />
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If I recall correctly, Bianca offered to trade Pignite for Luke's Zorua in one of the Don Battle episodes. Noteworthy? [[User:Dilophosaurus Rex|Dilophosaurus Rex]] 19:31, 11 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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No, especially if it didn't even happen. :--[[User:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:green">SuperAipom7</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:purple">Wanna chat?</span>]])''</small> 19:51, 11 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Noteworthy==<br />
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I still think this page is worthy enough to be on the site. It is Bianca's main pokemon and she even called him her trump card. Why can't her starter have his own page?? I still don't see why we are waiting, this page has more information then some of the main characters pokemon already.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 02:16, 19 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:We've already gone over this on [[Talk:Bianca (anime)|here]]. It's done nothing important. Also, her trump card? Minccino is used more often than he is. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 02:30, 19 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Hey Bianca is the one who called him her trump card not me.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 04:00, 19 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Saying and doing are two different things. Pignite ''still'' hasn't done anything notable but battle. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 06:54, 19 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Ok we saw it in a official gym battle now, isn't that notable enough??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 20:31, 22 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Protection request ==<br />
Since Bianca will be in the tournament Donamite and this marked an appearance of a Emboar, is not better protect this page?-[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] 00:15, 25 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
:There will also be a Simisage. And we didn't protect Cilan's Pansage. Unless they say it's hers we shouldn't bother with protecting. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 23:47, 25 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Nvm, I realize Pansage was a bad example given M15. Still we should wait. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 23:52, 25 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
::No problem. ^^ -[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] 00:58, 25 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::I think this page should be protected now. Why? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNNtf7K3U7w) [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] 01:12, 26 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
But even if you added a lot of information will not confirmed. Kenji Girl touched a valid point, some Pokemon mentioned in some of the titles maybe belong to the guy with green hair.-[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] 01:15, 26 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
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Um the preview clearly shows Bel holding an Emboar doll so it's pretty much confirmed.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 01:32, 26 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Stone Edge ==<br />
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I believe Emboar might have Stone Edge, if you look at the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLpwpq7v7R8&feature=uploademail, you can clearly see Conkeldurr deflecting Stones that look like a Stone Edge attack.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 07:47, 4 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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So do you guys think it's true??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 00:48, 7 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Idrk; it's hard to tell from the video. We'll have to wait until the episode comes out or more detail is given, in my opinion. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 02:22, 7 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, I think it's just better to wait it out, just to make sure we are completely correct. [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 02:27, 7 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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==The Tepig thing again==<br />
I don't really have any doubt, but is it ever said that Bianca had Pignite as a Tepig? I'm bringing it up because I don't remember anything being said about her having a Tepig. ^-^; [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 16:56, 7 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, technically. She stated that Pignite was her "starter" Pokémon in BW013. <span style="color:#009900">♫♪</span> [[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#A80000;">'''エイデ'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#003399;">'''ィニズ'''</span>]] <span style="color:#009900">♪♫</span> 17:16, 7 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
::Ah, okay. I wasn't sure if it was mentioned or not, since I was keeping in mind [[Barry's Empoleon]]. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 18:22, 7 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Current location unknown ==<br />
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Why does the current location of this Pokémon say unknown instead of with Bianca? I know why the ability says unknown as he did not officially activate it yet in both evolutions. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 13:52, 22 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Hammer Arm ==<br />
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According to a reliable japanese speaker on serebii forums, Emboar also used Hammer Arm: [QUOTE=Elekible-Kid;14332033]Yessir, I watched it live.<br />
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He used Arm Hammer/Arm Thrust and Flamethrower[/QUOTE]. Just thought I should let you guys know.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 01:24, 23 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Serebii is not a reliable source. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 01:27, 23 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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Oh so a Japanese speaker isn't a reliable source?? Who cares if he is from Serebii??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 01:34, 23 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
:By unreliable, Patty meant that we can not add it unless we have a legitimate proof. Anyway, I have re-watched the episode and fixed the article. <span style="color:#009900">♫♪</span> [[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#A80000;">'''エイデ'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#003399;">'''ィニズ'''</span>]] <span style="color:#009900">♪♫</span> 04:40, 24 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
== Just a thought ==<br />
Assuming that Bianca's Emboar was gotten in Nuvema Town as a Tepig, could it be that it was the Tepig that Ash saw at Trip's starter selection? After all, we saw Trip get Serperior and Ash get Oshawott, so could it be possible? It would make sense. --[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 16:26, 10 August 2012 (UTC)</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bianca%27s_Emboar&diff=1742148Talk:Bianca's Emboar2012-08-10T16:26:39Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Hammer Arm */</p>
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<div>== Games ==<br />
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Bianca has also a Pignite in the games so don't tis be added?--[[User:Nazirbashir|Nazirbashir]] 17:05, 29 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
:We don't do that for anime couterpart rival Pokemon, not sure why, we do it in manga but those are the rules [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 19:49, 29 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== As a Tepig? ==<br />
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What evidence is there that Bianca got Pignite as a Tepig? How do we now she got it from Juniper? We have no evidence, so why is said that it was a Tepig at first? :--[[User:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:green">SuperAipom7</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:purple">Wanna chat?</span>]])''</small> 02:24, 2 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Well, Pignite was the only pokemon bianca had before obtaining minccino so it was most likely her starter.[[User:TyphlosionTrent|TyphlosionTrent]] 03:40, 26 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Offered for trade ==<br />
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If I recall correctly, Bianca offered to trade Pignite for Luke's Zorua in one of the Don Battle episodes. Noteworthy? [[User:Dilophosaurus Rex|Dilophosaurus Rex]] 19:31, 11 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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No, especially if it didn't even happen. :--[[User:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:green">SuperAipom7</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:purple">Wanna chat?</span>]])''</small> 19:51, 11 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Noteworthy==<br />
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I still think this page is worthy enough to be on the site. It is Bianca's main pokemon and she even called him her trump card. Why can't her starter have his own page?? I still don't see why we are waiting, this page has more information then some of the main characters pokemon already.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 02:16, 19 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:We've already gone over this on [[Talk:Bianca (anime)|here]]. It's done nothing important. Also, her trump card? Minccino is used more often than he is. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 02:30, 19 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Hey Bianca is the one who called him her trump card not me.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 04:00, 19 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Saying and doing are two different things. Pignite ''still'' hasn't done anything notable but battle. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 06:54, 19 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Ok we saw it in a official gym battle now, isn't that notable enough??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 20:31, 22 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Protection request ==<br />
Since Bianca will be in the tournament Donamite and this marked an appearance of a Emboar, is not better protect this page?-[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] 00:15, 25 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
:There will also be a Simisage. And we didn't protect Cilan's Pansage. Unless they say it's hers we shouldn't bother with protecting. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 23:47, 25 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Nvm, I realize Pansage was a bad example given M15. Still we should wait. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 23:52, 25 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
::No problem. ^^ -[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] 00:58, 25 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::I think this page should be protected now. Why? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNNtf7K3U7w) [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] 01:12, 26 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
But even if you added a lot of information will not confirmed. Kenji Girl touched a valid point, some Pokemon mentioned in some of the titles maybe belong to the guy with green hair.-[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] 01:15, 26 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
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Um the preview clearly shows Bel holding an Emboar doll so it's pretty much confirmed.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 01:32, 26 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Stone Edge ==<br />
<br />
I believe Emboar might have Stone Edge, if you look at the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLpwpq7v7R8&feature=uploademail, you can clearly see Conkeldurr deflecting Stones that look like a Stone Edge attack.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 07:47, 4 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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So do you guys think it's true??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 00:48, 7 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Idrk; it's hard to tell from the video. We'll have to wait until the episode comes out or more detail is given, in my opinion. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 02:22, 7 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, I think it's just better to wait it out, just to make sure we are completely correct. [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 02:27, 7 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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==The Tepig thing again==<br />
I don't really have any doubt, but is it ever said that Bianca had Pignite as a Tepig? I'm bringing it up because I don't remember anything being said about her having a Tepig. ^-^; [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 16:56, 7 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, technically. She stated that Pignite was her "starter" Pokémon in BW013. <span style="color:#009900">♫♪</span> [[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#A80000;">'''エイデ'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#003399;">'''ィニズ'''</span>]] <span style="color:#009900">♪♫</span> 17:16, 7 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
::Ah, okay. I wasn't sure if it was mentioned or not, since I was keeping in mind [[Barry's Empoleon]]. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 18:22, 7 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Current location unknown ==<br />
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Why does the current location of this Pokémon say unknown instead of with Bianca? I know why the ability says unknown as he did not officially activate it yet in both evolutions. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 13:52, 22 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Hammer Arm ==<br />
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According to a reliable japanese speaker on serebii forums, Emboar also used Hammer Arm: [QUOTE=Elekible-Kid;14332033]Yessir, I watched it live.<br />
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He used Arm Hammer/Arm Thrust and Flamethrower[/QUOTE]. Just thought I should let you guys know.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 01:24, 23 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Serebii is not a reliable source. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 01:27, 23 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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Oh so a Japanese speaker isn't a reliable source?? Who cares if he is from Serebii??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 01:34, 23 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
:By unreliable, Patty meant that we can not add it unless we have a legitimate proof. Anyway, I have re-watched the episode and fixed the article. <span style="color:#009900">♫♪</span> [[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#A80000;">'''エイデ'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#003399;">'''ィニズ'''</span>]] <span style="color:#009900">♪♫</span> 04:40, 24 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
== Just a thought ==<br />
Assuming that Bianca's Emboar was gotten in Nuvema Town as a Tepig, could it be that it was the Tepig that Ash saw at Trip's starter selection? After all, we saw Trip get Serperior and Ash get Osawott, so could it be possible? It would make sense. --[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 16:26, 10 August 2012 (UTC)</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ash%27s_Pignite&diff=1741723Ash's Pignite2012-08-09T19:36:05Z<p>Pokemon26: /* History */</p>
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type1=Fire|<br />
type2=Fighting|<br />
trainername=Ash|<br />
pokemonname=Pignite|<br />
jtrainername=サトシ|<br />
jpokemonname=チャオブー|<br />
tmtrainername=Satoshi|<br />
tmpokemonname=Chaoboo|<br />
image=[[File:Ash Pignite.png|250px]] |<br />
caption=Ash's Pignite |<br />
gender=Male |<br />
location=[[Accumula Town]] |<br />
epnum=BW004 |<br />
epname= The Battle Club and Tepig's Choice! |<br />
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firstevoname=Evolution by Fire!|<br />
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current=[[Party|In rotation]]|<br />
enva1=[[Marc Thompson]]|<br />
java1=[[Wasabi Mizuta]]|<br />
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}}<br />
'''Ash's Pignite''' (Japanese: '''サトシのチャオブー''' ''Satoshi's Chaoboo'') is the third {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} that {{Ash}} caught in the [[Unova]] region.<br />
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==History==<br />
[[File:Tepig Release.png|left|thumb|right|250px|As a Tepig, being abandoned by his original Trainer]]<br />
===With Suwama===<br />
Pignite once belonged to a Trainer named [[Suwama]] as a Tepig, who abandoned him after he lost to a {{p|Deerling}} in battle. Suwama was disappointed in Tepig and so, Tepig was tied to a post. When [[Don George]] tried to untie him, Tepig broke free of his bonds and began searching for his Trainer, but to no avail. <br />
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When Ash visited the [[Accumula Town]] Pokémon [[Battle Club]] in ''[[BW004|The Battle Club and Tepig's Choice!]]'', Ash mistook Tepig for an {{p|Umbreon}} when watching a security tape of him stealing food from the nearby warehouse. In an attempt to capture the 'Umbreon', Ash then met Tepig for the first time when he was trying to eat some bait. He realized that Tepig was covered in soot and was unable to eat as there was a rope tied around his mouth, making him extremely hungry and very skinny. Initially, Tepig tried to run away, but after being cornered by Ash and having his rope removed and fed, he was carried back to the Battle Club by Ash. Later on, Tepig volunteered to help Ash retrieve his {{AP|Pikachu}} from {{TRT}}. Later, when {{an|Iris}} wanted to capture Tepig, he refused and decided he wanted to join Ash's team and Ash caught him in a [[Poké Ball]].<br />
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===With Ash===<br />
Tepig fought for Ash during his [[Striaton Gym]] battle in ''[[BW005|Triple Leaders, Team Threats!]]'', against [[Chili]] and his {{TP|Chili|Pansear}}. Tepig's attacks didn't do much damage to Pansear, but Pansear managed to hit Tepig with powerful {{m|Fire Punch}}, {{m|Flamethrower}} and {{m|Dig}} attacks. One of Pansear's Dig attacks sent Tepig into the air. Ash then commanded him to dive into the hole that Pansear was in and he managed to bite Pansear's tail. Although Pansear threw Tepig onto the ground, he managed to get up and spin Pansear around, throwing him to the ground. He used {{m|Ember}} successfully and then knocked Pansear out with a powerful {{m|Tackle}}.<br />
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Tepig was revealed to be male in ''[[BW007|Snivy Plays Hard to Catch!]]'' when he battled a wild {{AP|Snivy}} that would eventually be caught by Ash. Although he managed to use an Ember attack, he was hit by the Snivy's {{m|Attract}} and became infatuated with her, causing him to be recalled.<br />
[[File:Ash and Tepig.png|thumb|right|250px|Ash and Tepig]]<br />
In ''[[BW010|A Rival Battle for Club Champ!]]'', he was used to fight against [[Trip]]'s {{p|Tranquill}}. Like {{AP|Oshawott}} before him, he was defeated by two consecutive {{m|Aerial Ace}}s due to Tranquill's {{a|Super Luck}} Ability, which increased Tranquill's chance of inflicting critical hits.<br />
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In ''[[BW015|The Battle According to Lenora!]]'', he battled [[Lenora]]'s {{p|Lillipup}}, which promptly used {{m|Roar}} to force Tepig back into his Poké Ball. After Lenora's {{p|Watchog}} defeated Oshawott, he fought Lillipup again and was defeated. In ''[[BW016|Rematch at the Nacrene Gym!]]'', he trained alongside Ash at Don George's Battle Club. He ran on a treadmill and dodged black balls that symbolized {{m|Shadow Ball}} attacks. By training, Tepig became faster and stronger, and learned {{m|Flame Charge}}. Later on, he battled against Lenora's {{p|Herdier}}, which soon used Roar to force Tepig back into his Poké Ball again. After Watchog and Oshawott knocked each other out, Tepig battled Herdier again and won because of his faster, stronger attacks and his newly learned Flame Charge move.<br />
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He had his third Gym battle against the {{type|Bug}} Gym Leader [[Burgh]] in ''[[BW023|Battling For The Love of Bug-Types!]]'' and despite Ash planning to win with a type advantage, Burgh sent out a {{p|Dwebble}} which had its own type advantage. Even though Tepig tried his best, Dwebble's superior speed and powerful {{type|Rock}} moves got the better of Tepig which lead to his eventual defeat.<br />
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Tepig was later used in ''[[BW031|Ash and Trip's Third Battle!]]'' to battle Trip's {{p|Vanillite}}. Tepig defended himself from Vanillite's {{type|Ice}} attacks with Flame Charge but could not keep up with some of its faster moves and despite the type advantage, the match ended in a tie.<br />
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Tepig was used in ''[[BW034|Gotta Catch A Roggenrola!]]'' to battle {{AP|Roggenrola}} after Oshawott was defeated, only to be defeated himself. He later helped Ash rescue all of the Roggenrola from the [[Team Rocket trio]]. He later had a rematch with Roggenrola and after a fierce battle, he weakened it enough for Ash to catch it.<br />
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In ''[[BW048|Battle For The Underground!]]'', Tepig was used to propel the train cart Ash and friends were riding on to get away from Team Rocket; along with Roggenrola using {{m|Flash Cannon}} and {{TP|Iris|Axew}} using {{m|Dragon Rage}}. In the process, his {{m|Ember}} attack became {{m|Flamethrower}}.<br />
[[File:Pignite and Suwama.png|thumb|left|250px|Pignite and his former Trainer, Suwama]]<br />
In ''[[BW051|Lost at the Stamp Rally!]]'', Tepig teamed up with [[Cilan's Pansage]] when his Trainer Ash and {{an|Cilan}} battled against {{tc|Subway Boss}}es {{FB|Subway Boss|Ingo}} and {{FB|Subway Boss|Emmet}}. Battling their {{p|Eelektross}} and {{p|Chandelure}}, Tepig and Pansage battled well but were eventually defeated.<br />
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In ''[[BW077|Evolution by Fire!]]'', while eating with the other Pokémon in the Battle Club, Tepig recognized his previous Trainer, Suwama. Upon seeing him, Tepig happily ran over to Suwama, believing that he would be happy to see him. However, when Suwama threw Tepig at Ash and called him a useless Pokémon, he was very disheartened. Being angered by Suwama's actions, Ash accepted Suwama's challenge of a [[Double Battle]], pitting Tepig against his former Trainer's {{p|Emboar}} and {{p|Heatmor}} the next day. That night Tepig sat alone outside the Battle Club and got very upset while recounting his abandonment. Snivy slapped him with {{m|Vine Whip}} and talked sense into him, as they were preparing for the battle in the morning. Despite Snivy's encouragement, when faced with battling his estranged Trainer, he froze up and was unable to launch any attacks. Though Tepig had thought that abandoning him was a very hard thing for Suwama to do, he was crushed when Suwama revealed he was relieved to get rid of him. However, after watching his friend Snivy take two powerful hits when she was distracted with encouraging him further, Tepig finally hit both of his opponents with a powerful Flame Charge. However, Emboar and Heatmor were able to take the attack and on Suwama's command launched a {{m|Flare Blitz}}/{{m|Fire Spin}} combination move. Making no attempt to dodge, Tepig was pushed out of the way of the attack by his partner Snivy, who took major damage and was knocked out. Tepig became as motivated as his Trainer and Snivy continued to show faith in him, as he [[evolution|evolved]] into {{p|Pignite}}. With his new power, Pignite used {{m|Fire Pledge}}, impressing both his former and current Trainer and dealing major damage to Emboar and Heatmor. With a final Flame Charge attack, Pignite was able to knock out both of his opponents. After the battle, Suwama talked to Pignite, saying he was impressed with his new power, and asked him to rejoin the team, but Pignite refused, scorching his previous Trainer's face with a Flamethrower and sending him running away in anger.<br />
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In ''[[BW079|Caution: Icy Battle Conditions!]]'', Pignite battled [[Brycen]]'s {{p|Cryogonal}}. The match started with Pignite's Flame Charge being blocked by {{m|Reflect}} and him being hit by fast {{m|Rapid Spin}}, unable to hit the speedy Cryogonal. After enduring Cryogonal's {{m|Frost Breath}}, Pignite was able to land a direct hit with Fire Pledge, stopping Cryogonal's Rapid Spin and knocking it out. Pignite next went up against Brycen's {{p|Beartic}} where his Flame Charge was stopped by Beartic's {{m|Brine}}. Pignite was soon knocked out after a powerful {{m|Icicle Crash}} and unavoidable {{m|Aerial Ace}}.<br />
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In ''[[BW084|Rocking the Virbank Gym! (Part 2)]]'', Ash sent out his Pignite as his fourth Pokemon during his Gym battle with [[Roxie]], facing her {{p|Scolipede}}. Despite her part {{type|Bug}} Pokémon being at a type disadvantage against {{type|Fire}}s, Roxie stood calm. Pignite started by trying a Flame Charge, which was blocked by Scolipede's {{m|Screech}}. The Megapede Pokémon next attacked with {{m|Sludge Bomb}}, which was also blocked by Pignite's Flamethrower, causing a big explosion and a cloud of smoke. Using the smoke to his advantage, Ash had Pignite use another Flame Charge, hitting Scolipede and dealing a lot of damage. As Pignite tried to finish the match with another Flamethrower, Scolipede dodged and used {{m|Toxic}} on Pignite, {{status|poison|badly poisoning}} him. However, Pignite was able to go on and unleash a Fire Pledge on Scolipede, defeating it. Roxie then gave Pignite a [[Pecha Berry]], curing him of the poison before sending out her strongest Pokémon, {{p|Garbodor}}. The Trash Heap Pokémon was able to use its extendable arms to dodge Pignite's Flame Charge before hitting the Fire Pig Pokémon with {{m|DoubleSlap}} and doing the same again to dodge a Flamethrower. Pignite then used Tackle on Garbodor's arm, causing it to fall over. Pignite was about to use Fire Pledge, but Garbodor extended its arm under his hand, preventing him from using the move, grabbing him, and tossing him to the floor. After getting hit by a few DoubleSlap attacks, Pignite was finally able to unleash his Fire Pledge attack, but Garbodor countered with a {{m|Hyper Beam}}, which went right through Fire Pledge and hit Pignite, knocking him out.<br />
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==Personality and characteristics==<br />
[[File:Ash and Pignite.png|thumb|right|250px|Ash and Pignite]]<br />
Pignite, as a Tepig, has been shown to not take losing very well, often getting sad when he loses, such as in ''[[BW010|A Rival Battle for Club Champ!]]'' where he fought and lost to [[Trip]]'s Tranquill. This was shown again during {{Ash}}'s battle against [[Lenora]], the Gym Leader of the [[Nacrene Gym]]. He fought against her {{p|Lillipup}} and lost; he got depressed again, and did not even cheer up when Ash told him he did a good job. He also felt upset when he drew to Trip's {{p|Vanillite}} in ''[[BW031|Ash and Trip's Third Battle!]]'', reacting the same way he does when he loses. However, in some cases, Tepig is happy to lose, but only in unofficial training battles, as seen in ''[[BW027|A Dragon Master's Path!]]''. Otherwise, Tepig is a rather sweet Pokémon, always looking to please Ash in battle.<br />
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Tepig has shown multiple times that he is always trying to please Ash. Lenora confirms this in ''[[BW016|Rematch at the Nacrene Gym!]]'', where she says that Tepig is trying very hard for Ash. This could be because Tepig's [[Suwama|former trainer]] abandoned him and out of fear that Ash will do the same, tries his best to prove he is worthy. Even though abandoned by his former Trainer, he was still happy to see him again in ''[[BW077|Evolution by Fire!]]'' and also didn't feel right battling against him. After his [[evolution]], he lost all respect for Suwama as shown when Pignite used {{m|Flamethrower}} on his former Trainer and stayed loyal to Ash.<br />
{{-}}<br />
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==Moves used==<br />
{{anmov/h|fire|fighting|Ash {{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 5}}|0=Tepig Ember|1=Pignite Tackle|2=Pignite Flame Charge|3=Pignite Flamethrower|4=Pignite Fire Pledge}}.png|Using {{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 5}}|0=Ember<br>as a Tepig|1=Tackle|2=Flame Charge|3=Flamethrower|4=Fire Pledge}}}}<br />
{{anmov|fire|Ember|BW004|The Battle Club and Tepig's Choice!}}<br />
{{anmov|normal|Tackle|BW005|Triple Leaders, Team Threats!|rec=yes}}<br />
{{anmov|fire|Flame Charge|BW016|Rematch at the Nacrene Gym!|rec=yes}}<br />
{{anmov|fire|Flamethrower|BW048|Battle For The Underground!|rec=yes}}<br />
{{anmov|fire|Fire Pledge|BW077|Evolution by Fire!|rec=yes}}<br />
{{anmov/f|fighting}}<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
* As a Tepig, its capture was first revealed in a short preview aired after [[<!--Do not add the dub title here-->DP190]], featuring all the {{DL|Starter Pokémon|Unova|Unova starters}}. However, it was not revealed who would be catching him.<br />
* Pignite is the fourth {{type|Fire}} [[starter Pokémon]] to be caught by Ash and the third to have been abandoned by his previous Trainer. The other two are {{AP|Charmander|Charizard}} and {{AP|Chimchar|Infernape}}.<br />
** He is also the only Fire-type starter that Ash caught whose Japanese name doesn't begin with the character '''ヒ''' ''hi'' and whose English name does not begin with a C. <br />
* Like all of Ash's Fire-type Pokémon, Tepig was caught without battling.<br />
* Pignite is Ash's only Fire-type Pokémon to have its gender confirmed in the original Japanese version.<br />
* Tepig's evolution into Pignite was first revealed in the Japanese ending ''[[Seven-colored Arch]]''.<br />
* Pignite is the first {{t|Fire}} type Ash owned that didn't know {{m|Flamethrower}} when caught.<br />
* Pignite is currently the only Pokémon Ash has caught in Unova that is not known to have been left at [[Professor Juniper]]'s lab.<br />
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==Related articles==<br />
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{{Ash's Pokémon|fire|fighting}}<br><br />
{{Project Anime notice|no}}<br />
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[[Category:Ash's Pokémon|Pignite]]<br />
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[[de:Ashs Ferkokel]]<br />
[[es:Tepig de Ash]]<br />
[[fr:Grotichon de Sacha]]<br />
[[it:Pignite di Ash]]<br />
[[ja:サトシのチャオブー]]<br />
[[pl:Pignite Asha]]</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ash%27s_Unfezant&diff=1741719Ash's Unfezant2012-08-09T19:31:00Z<p>Pokemon26: /* History */</p>
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type1=Normal|<br />
type2=Flying|<br />
trainername=Ash|<br />
pokemonname=Unfezant|<br />
jtrainername=サトシ|<br />
jpokemonname=ケンホロウ|<br />
tmtrainername=Satoshi|<br />
tmpokemonname=Kenhallow|<br />
image=[[File:Ash Unfezant.png|250px]] |<br />
caption=Ash's Unfezant |<br />
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firstevoname=A Venipede Stampede!|<br />
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secondevoname=An Amazing Aerial Battle!|<br />
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current=[[Party|In rotation]]<br />
|enva1=[[Bella Hudson|Erica Schroeder]]||<br />
java1=[[Chinami Nishimura]]|<br />
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'''Ash's Unfezant''' (Japanese: '''サトシのケンホロウ''' ''Satoshi's Kenhallow'') is the first {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} that [[Ash Ketchum]] {{pkmn2|caught}} in the [[Unova]] region.<br />
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==History==<br />
[[File:Ash Pidove.png|thumb|left|250px|As a Pidove]] <br />
As he has done in every other region he has traveled in before, Ash usually catches a {{type|Flying}} Pokémon early in his journey. Pidove was caught soon after Ash's arrival in Unova. In ''[[BW002|Enter Iris and Axew!]]'', shortly after a flock of Pidove had escaped when Ash had failed to capture one of them, he noticed her pecking at the ground, and engaged her in a battle. She managed to put up a good fight against [[Ash's Pikachu]], until the {{t|Electric}} Mouse Pokémon used his powerful {{m|Iron Tail}} and {{m|Thunderbolt}} attacks, which caused her to faint. Ash threw a [[Poké Ball]] and successfully caught her. Later on, for the first time, Pidove was sent out in an effort to save Pikachu and [[Iris's Axew]] from {{TRT}}'s capture. However, as she was still weak from her battle with Pikachu, she was quickly defeated by [[Jessie's Woobat]]'s powerful {{m|Air Slash}} attack. She was later healed at the [[Pokémon Center]], along with Pikachu and Axew.<br />
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Unfezant is occasionally used by Ash to find and track certain Pokémon. She helped Ash find two {{p|Darumaka}} in ''[[BW008|Saving Darmanitan From the Bell!]]'' and a wild {{AP|Snivy}} in ''[[BW007|Snivy Plays Hard to Catch!]]'', playing a dominant role in the {{t|Grass}} Pokémon's capture. At the time, Pidove had followed Snivy throughout from the time she escaped using {{m|Leaf Storm}}. As she witnessed all of Ash's other Pokémon ({{AP|Pikachu}}, {{AP|Oshawott}} and {{AP|Tepig}}) fall to the Grass Snake Pokémon's {{m|Attract}}, she volunteers to battle Snivy. When Snivy attempted to use Attract on Pidove, Pidove was unaffected as she was female (a fact of which Ash had been completely unaware of, despite Iris and Cilan's assumptions that it was his strategy). After a hard-fought battle, Pidove weakened Snivy enough for her to be captured by Ash.<br />
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[[File:Ash Tranquill.png|thumb|220px|As a Tranquill]]<br />
In ''[[BW010|A Rival Battle for Club Champ!]]'' she was briefly used by Ash in a 5-on-5 battle against [[Trip]]'s {{p|Frillish}}. She tried her best but was taken by surprise by his {{m|Water Pulse}}, and got knocked out in the process.<br />
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In ''[[BW022|A Venipede Stampede!]]'', Ash used her to help send the {{p|Venipede}} that took over [[Castelia City]] to the park in the center of the city. Although things started well, she was almost hit by a {{m|Sludge Bomb}} and was only just saved by an {{m|Air Cutter}} from Trip's {{p|Tranquill}}. She then helped remove a few more and then suddenly evolved into Tranquill herself. As a result of her new stronger form, Tranquill was able to clear out the last Venipede with a powerful {{m|Gust}} alongside help from Trip's Tranquill's {{m|Aerial Ace}} attacks.<br />
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In ''[[BW036|Archeops In The Modern World!]]'', Tranquill was used to help a newly revived female {{p|Archen}} learn how to fly. After Archen evolved into {{p|Archeops}}, Tranquill defended her from Team Rocket and they said their goodbyes, up in the air, once Archeops found some others.<br />
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Ash used Tranquill to battle [[Skyla]] in ''[[BW068|An Amazing Aerial Battle!]]''. She was first sent out to battle {{p|Swoobat}} who had already defeated {{AP|Krokorok}} before her. After their {{m|Gust}} and {{m|Air Cutter}} attacks proved to be dead even, the battle took to the sky where Tranquill tried to get the upper hand with her newly learned {{m|Wing Attack}}, however Swoobat was able to swiftly dodge the barrage of Wing Attacks until finally it was beaten by Tranquill's powerful Air Cutter attacks, as they descended to the ground. She then fought Skyla's {{p|Unfezant}}, but with none of her attacks even touching Unfezant due to her lack of speed, Tranquill started to show signs of tiring after narrowly escaping a barrage of {{m|Air Slash}} attacks and was called back to her Poké Ball, while {{AP|Pikachu}} took her place. She was brought back out again after Pikachu had lost to Skyla's {{p|Swanna}} despite having the type-advantage. During the battle with Swanna, she was able to hit Swanna with a powerful {{m|Quick Attack}} and {{m|Air Cutter}} causing Swanna to fall towards the Gym; she then rushed past Swanna and tried to hit it with {{m|Gust}}, however Gust was vastly overpowered by Swanna's {{m|Hurricane}} attack. While it seemed as if Tranquill had been knocked out, she began to glow and evolved into {{p|Unfezant}}. With her new found power and speed, she was easily able to dodge Swanna's powerful {{m|Brave Bird}} attacks and with the help of her newly learned {{m|Aerial Ace}} attack, was able to defeat Swanna with one extremely powerful hit, winning her the battle and earning Ash his sixth Unova {{Badge|Jet|Badge}}.<br />
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In ''[[BW083|Rocking the Virbank Gym! (Part 1)]]'', Ash sent Unfezant out as his second Pokemon in his 6-on-3 Gym battle against [[Roxie]], where she faced Roxie's {{p|Koffing}}. Unfezant started the round with a Quick Attack, that made a direct hit. Koffing then attacked back with {{m|Will-O-Wisp}}, but Unfezant sent it back with a Gust before attacking with Air Cutter. Koffing, however, avoided the attack and launched a {{m|Sludge Bomb}}, which hit and {{status|poison}}ed Unfezant. Though she was weakened, Unfezant was able to withstand Koffing's {{m|Clear Smog}} and fight back. She was, however, unable to stand two consecutive {{m|Gyro Ball}}s, and was finally taken down.<br />
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==Personality and characteristics==<br />
[[File:Ash and Tranquill.png|thumb|220px|Ash and Tranquill]]<br />
Unfezant has been shown to be a helpful Pokémon such as when Ash needs help dealing with Team Rocket or when he needs her to search for a Pokémon. She also has been shown to go the extra mile when helping with training, such as when {{p|Archen}} needed help with her flying skills. Unfezant isn't a confrontational Pokémon, not even fighting back when attacked by [[Ash's Scraggy]] instead choosing to freak out and run away from him and, in the same instance, is shown to be rather sensitive. Unfezant is also shown to be quite confident, as shown in ''[[BW022|A Venipede Stampede!]]'', where she took no hesitation in trying to clear [[Castelia City]] from the group of {{p|Venipede}}. After evolving into Unfezant and beating [[Skyla]]'s {{p|Swanna}} in ''[[BW068|An Amazing Aerial Battle!]]'', she excitedly celebrated by doing a couple of victory laps above the Gym.<br />
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==Moves used==<br />
{{anmov/h|normal|flying|Ash {{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 5}}|0=Unfezant Aerial Ace|1=Tranquill Quick Attack|2=Tranquill Wing Attack|3=Unfezant Air Cutter|4=Tranquill Gust}}.png|Using {{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 5}}|0=Aerial Ace|1=Quick Attack as <br/>a Tranquill|2=Wing Attack as <br/>a Tranquill|3=Air Cutter|4=Gust<br/>a Tranquill}}}}<br />
{{anmov|Flying|Gust|BW002|Enter Iris and Axew!|rec=yes}}<br />
{{anmov|Normal|Quick Attack|BW002|Enter Iris and Axew!|rec=yes}}<br />
{{anmov|Flying|Air Cutter|BW002|Enter Iris and Axew!|rec=yes}}<br />
{{anmov|Flying|Wing Attack|BW068|An Amazing Aerial Battle!|x=yes}}<br />
{{anmov|Flying|Aerial Ace|BW068|An Amazing Aerial Battle!|rec=yes}}<br />
{{anmov/f|flying|x=yes}}<br />
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==In the games==<br />
{{bulbanews|New distributions for Black and White announced}}<br />
{{bulbanews|Mystery Egg event coming stateside}}<br />
{{main|List of North American Nintendo event Pokémon in 2011#Secret Eggs|Secret Eggs}}<br />
A Japanese event randomly distributed an Egg that contained an in-game representation of Ash's Pidove, [[Iris's Axew]], or [[Cilan's Pansage]] via Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection. Like the anime counterpart, the Pidove is always female, and knows {{m|Gust}}, {{m|Quick Attack}}, and {{m|Air Cutter}}. This event started on December 17th, 2010, and ended on January 11, 2011. This Egg was also distributed at participating American {{wp|Toys 'R' Us}} locations from April 27 to May 31, 2011.<br />
{{G4event|<br />
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white=yes|<br />
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==In the TCG==<br />
Pidove was featured in the TCG. The following is a list of cards featuring '''Ash's Pidove'''.<br />
{| {{bluetable}}<br />
|- style="background:#{{tcg colorless color}};"<br />
!Name<br />
!Type<br />
!Set<br />
!Set no.<br />
|-<br />
| rowspan=2 | {{TCG ID|BW-P Promo|Pidove|2}} || rowspan=2 | {{e|Colorless}} || rowspan=2 | {{TCG|BW-P Promotional cards}} || 002/BW-P<br />
|-<br />
| 005/BW-P<br />
|}<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
* Unfezant's capture as a Pidove was first revealed in a preview for the {{series|Best Wishes}}.<br />
* This is Ash's first Pokémon to be sent to a Pokémon laboratory other than Professor Oak's, in this case, Professor Juniper's lab.<br />
* Unfezant was a Pidove for 21 episodes. Coincidentally, 21 is the level Pidove evolves at in the games.<br />
* Tranquill's evolution into Unfezant was first revealed in the Japanese ending ''[[Seven-colored Arch]]''.<br />
* Unfezant was Ash's first Unova Pokémon to fully evolve.<br />
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==Related articles==<br />
{{Animespeciesevo2|Pidove|Tranquill|Unfezant}}<br />
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{{Ash's Pokémon|normal|flying}}<br><br />
{{Project Anime notice|no}}<br />
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[[Category:Ash's Pokémon|Unfezant]]<br />
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[[de:Ashs Fasasnob]]<br />
[[fr:Déflaisan de Sacha]]<br />
[[it:Unfezant di Ash]]<br />
[[ja:サトシのケンホロウ]]<br />
[[pl:Unfezant Asha]]</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Pokemon26&diff=1729082User:Pokemon262012-07-23T16:27:42Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Black 2 & White 2 */</p>
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<div>== Pokemon 26 ==<br />
Hi! Welcome to my user page. I have been a fan of Pokemon for 13 years starting with Pokemon Red and Blue. I am currently playing Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver and Platinum. I am anticipating the release of Pokemon Black and White.<br />
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== A Little Background On Me ==<br />
My Pokemon journey began at the age of 6 in 1998 with Pokemon Red and Blue. I played Red, and my sister played Blue. In those early days, I was easily frustrated by playing, so my mom played to help me. Anyway, I got through Red with all 151 Pokemon (including Mew). Then came Johto in 2000. I played Silver and my mom played Gold. The game no longer works.<br />
Then came Hoenn. It was 2003 when I started Hoenn. I was 11 years old, and my mom officially stopped playing the games, so it was the first region that I was playing alone. I mastered Hoenn in the 6 years I was there, from 2003-2009. In 2009, I woke up one morning and realized I was bored with Hoenn. I had started Pearl and Diamond in 2007 with everyone else (and even had a Manaphy from the event), but I really did not play it at the time. In 2009, Sinnoh had been played by most fans to that point. I got into Sinnoh by repeatedly transferring my Manaphy back and forth between Pearl and Diamond and restarting the games after tranfer. Then I started playing Sinnoh. 1 year later, I had beaten Sinnoh in Pearl and started working on Platinum and Diamond (Both of whitch I still am working on). Then came the rebirth of Johto in 2010. I have been playing that since. My other Pokemon related projects include making my own personal game-based battle frontier using my games and playing Fire Red and Leaf Green on my own time. <br />
When I got Black and White, I had many goals. My biggest goal was to capture all 156 new Pokemon. I was not able to do that. In Unova, many firsts occured for me. My first Black team is the standard team for me (Ground type, Electric type, Fire type, Ice type, Water type, Flying type). My second Black team has a Psychic type instead of an Ice type (a first). In White, my team has a Poison type (a first). I am trying to think of a team for a possible Pokemon Gray Version.On the gym side of it, I got to beat the gyms in a quick succession (in Black, 8 days, no joke. In White, slightly more). I wonder what will happen in Pokemon next.<br />
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The following list is of groups I am a part of:<br />
{{User Project Routes}}<br />
{{User Male}}<br />
{{User Project Anime}}<br />
{{User Project Walkthroughs}}<br />
{{User Single}}<br />
{{User Project Games}}<br />
{{User Project Pokédex}}<br />
{{User Project CharacterDex}}<br />
{{User Liberal}}<br />
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== Pokemon Teams ==<br />
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I don't remember what my teams were for Red and Blue or Gold and Silver. I do know my teams for Ruby and Pearl and SoulSilver though. I will post those at a later date. Thank you!!!<br />
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== Ruby Version ==<br />
Sceptile [[Image:254.png]]<br />
Raichu [[Image:026.png]]<br />
Blaziken [[Image:257.png]]<br />
Glalie [[Image:362.png]]<br />
Gyrados [[Image:130.png]]<br />
Swellow [[Image:277.png]]<br />
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I moved this team to Pearl.<br />
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== Pearl Version ==<br />
Torterra [[Image:389.png]]<br />
Luxray [[Image:405.png]]<br />
Rapidash [[Image:078.png]]<br />
Lucario [[Image:448.png]]<br />
Floatzel [[Image:419.png]]<br />
Staraptor [[Image:398.png]]<br />
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== Soulsilver Version ==<br />
Steelix [[image:208.png]]<br />
Ampharos [[image:181.png]]<br />
Typhlosion [[image:157.png]]<br />
Togekiss [[image:468.png]]<br />
Quagsire [[image:195.png]]<br />
Pidgeot [[image:018.png]]<br />
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== Platinum Version ==<br />
Torterra [[image:389.png]]<br />
Luxray [[image:405.png]]<br />
Rapidash [[image:078.png]]<br />
Abomasnow [[image:460.png]]*<br />
Floatzel [[image:419.png]]<br />
Staraptor [[image:398.png]]<br />
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*yes, I know I dropped Lucario from my team. I was going to use Abomasnow in my Pearl team, but Lucario went to the Elite Four instead. Abomasnow got his opportunity this time... plus, I needed something to beat that Gliscor (yes, I can use Floatzel, but I need to use that 4X vulnerability to ice to my advantage. :)<br />
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== Diamond Version ==<br />
Torterra [[image:389.png]]<br />
Luxray [[image:405.png]]<br />
Infernape [[image:392.png]]<br />
Lucario [[image:448.png]]<br />
Empoleon [[image:395.png]]<br />
Staraptor [[image:398.png]]<br />
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*This is my only team with all 3 starters. It began as an experiment on how to get all 3 in one team. I had multiple DSs, so I tried it. The team, along with Platinum, is currently training to win the elite four challenge, as the levels are not high enough.<br />
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== How I develop my pokemon teams ==<br />
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I have determined that it is important to have a fire type, electric type, water type, and flying type in all of my teams. That typically leaves me two open spaces. Those spaces are filled with pokemon of various types.--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 17:48, 31 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Fire Red Team ==<br />
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Venusaur [[image: 003.png]] Raichu [[image: 026.png]] Arcanine [[image: 059.png]] Mr. Mime [[image: 122.png]] Cloyster [[image: 091.png]] Pidgeot [[image: 018.png]]<br />
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== First Black Unova Team ==<br />
Excadrill [[image:530.png]]<br />
Zebrstrika [[image:523.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Vanilluxe [[image:584.png]]<br />
Carracosta [[image:565.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
== Second Black Unova Team ==<br />
Krookodile [[image:553.png]]<br />
Galvantula [[image:596.png]]<br />
Darmanitan [[image:555.png]]<br />
Gothitelle [[image:576.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Swanna [[image:581.png]]<br />
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== White Unova Team ==<br />
Excadrill [[image:530.png]]<br />
Zebstrika [[image:523.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Scolipede [[image:545.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
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== Heartgold Team ==<br />
Donphan [[image:232.png]]<br />
Ampharos [[image:181.png]]<br />
Typhlosion [[image:157.png]]<br />
Togekiss [[image:468.png]]<br />
Gyrados [[image:130.png]]<br />
Honchkrow [[image:430.png]]<br />
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== Gym Challenge ==<br />
I am in the process of training all of my teams and creating my own series of game gyms. This is the order that a challenger will battle them:<br />
1.Heartgold<br />
2.Diamond<br />
3.White<br />
4.Platinum<br />
5.Soulsilver<br />
6.Black<br />
7.Pearl<br />
8.Ruby (on Pearl)<br />
Expected finish date: Summer 2012<br />
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== Black 2 & White 2 == <br />
Black 2:<br />
Excadrill<br />
Galvantula<br />
Emboar<br />
Haxorus<br />
Seismitoad<br />
Unfezant<br />
White 2:<br />
Excadrill<br />
Galvantula<br />
Emboar<br />
Stoutland<br />
Seismitoad<br />
Unfezant</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:S15&diff=1703476Talk:S152012-06-14T17:18:34Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Dwebble */</p>
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<div>Shouldn't this be at Pokémon: Rival Destinies? [[User:Satoshi101|サトシ]] 22:24, 29 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:[[Pokémon Diamond & Pearl: Battle Dimension|Other pages use this standard.]] <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 22:27, 29 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
::But it's not the {{redlink|Black and White series}}, it's the [[Best Wishes series]]. --[[User:Satoshi101|サトシ]] 22:32, 29 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::Best Wishes only applies to Japan. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 09:18, 30 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
::::The "BW" stands for Black & White in the dub version, not Best Wishes. Also, I have noticed in a lot of promos that aired on Cartoon Network{{tt|*|CNP}}, they always use the full titles of the seasons. <span style="color:#009900">♫♪</span> [[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#A80000;">'''エイデ'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#003399;">'''ィニズ'''</span>]] <span style="color:#009900">♪♫</span> 12:29, 30 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::::The BW might not stand for Best Wishes! in the dub, but we have no confirmation, nor is it necessarily called the "Black and White series". We need to be consistent - make sure the Japanese series title agrees with the dub. And also, why do we consider it to be part of the Best Wishes series in the dub if you are contradicting this? [[User:Satoshi101|サトシ]] 23:56, 30 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
::::::Best Wishes = every episode regardless of the season. Black & White = dub only seasons. The dub does not use Best Wishes at all and that's confirmed. The series certainly does not have to be the same as the dub as seen with the {{series|Advanced Generation}}. The dub only used ''Advanced'' and never ''Generation'' except for the last season of AG where they dropped Advanced completely. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 00:12, 31 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::::::My apologies for replying to an old discussion but to close it once and for all, here is the proof from the official CN website to clarify why we follow this naming standard i.e calling it "Pokémon Black & White: Rival Destinies" (found it from the coding): <br />
http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg638/adyniz_bmgf/RivalDestinies.png <span style="color:#009900">♫♪</span> [[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#A80000;">'''エイデ'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#003399;">'''ィニズ'''</span>]] <span style="color:#009900">♪♫</span> 12:43, 24 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
== Juniper-Bianca trade and evolve ==<br />
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Are they too recurring to be listed?--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 14:30, 18 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Dwebble ==<br />
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The article fails to mention that Cilan's Dwebble evolves in Crustle and than learns Rock Wrecker. As it is written now, it is a little confusing when and how he got a Crustle. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] 08:55, 6 June 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Ash's Boldore has a similar wording. Plus, it shows that Dwebble evolves in the evolutions section of the article.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#424B50">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#848A8D">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#E3CED0">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EDDFE0">ire</span>]] 10:12, 6 June 2012 (UTC)<br />
== Trivia ==<br />
Did anyone notice that this season has had the most gym battles in one season (outside of Kanto, Battle Frontier, and Orange Islands) with 5? Should we mention this as trivia?--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] ([[User talk:Pokemon26|talk]]) 17:18, 14 June 2012 (UTC)</div>Pokemon26https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Pokemon26&diff=1701215User:Pokemon262012-06-12T17:56:34Z<p>Pokemon26: /* Black 2 & White 2 */</p>
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<div>== Pokemon 26 ==<br />
Hi! Welcome to my user page. I have been a fan of Pokemon for 13 years starting with Pokemon Red and Blue. I am currently playing Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver and Platinum. I am anticipating the release of Pokemon Black and White.<br />
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== A Little Background On Me ==<br />
My Pokemon journey began at the age of 6 in 1998 with Pokemon Red and Blue. I played Red, and my sister played Blue. In those early days, I was easily frustrated by playing, so my mom played to help me. Anyway, I got through Red with all 151 Pokemon (including Mew). Then came Johto in 2000. I played Silver and my mom played Gold. The game no longer works.<br />
Then came Hoenn. It was 2003 when I started Hoenn. I was 11 years old, and my mom officially stopped playing the games, so it was the first region that I was playing alone. I mastered Hoenn in the 6 years I was there, from 2003-2009. In 2009, I woke up one morning and realized I was bored with Hoenn. I had started Pearl and Diamond in 2007 with everyone else (and even had a Manaphy from the event), but I really did not play it at the time. In 2009, Sinnoh had been played by most fans to that point. I got into Sinnoh by repeatedly transferring my Manaphy back and forth between Pearl and Diamond and restarting the games after tranfer. Then I started playing Sinnoh. 1 year later, I had beaten Sinnoh in Pearl and started working on Platinum and Diamond (Both of whitch I still am working on). Then came the rebirth of Johto in 2010. I have been playing that since. My other Pokemon related projects include making my own personal game-based battle frontier using my games and playing Fire Red and Leaf Green on my own time. <br />
When I got Black and White, I had many goals. My biggest goal was to capture all 156 new Pokemon. I was not able to do that. In Unova, many firsts occured for me. My first Black team is the standard team for me (Ground type, Electric type, Fire type, Ice type, Water type, Flying type). My second Black team has a Psychic type instead of an Ice type (a first). In White, my team has a Poison type (a first). I am trying to think of a team for a possible Pokemon Gray Version.On the gym side of it, I got to beat the gyms in a quick succession (in Black, 8 days, no joke. In White, slightly more). I wonder what will happen in Pokemon next.<br />
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The following list is of groups I am a part of:<br />
{{User Project Routes}}<br />
{{User Male}}<br />
{{User Project Anime}}<br />
{{User Project Walkthroughs}}<br />
{{User Single}}<br />
{{User Project Games}}<br />
{{User Project Pokédex}}<br />
{{User Project CharacterDex}}<br />
{{User Liberal}}<br />
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== Pokemon Teams ==<br />
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I don't remember what my teams were for Red and Blue or Gold and Silver. I do know my teams for Ruby and Pearl and SoulSilver though. I will post those at a later date. Thank you!!!<br />
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== Ruby Version ==<br />
Sceptile [[Image:254.png]]<br />
Raichu [[Image:026.png]]<br />
Blaziken [[Image:257.png]]<br />
Glalie [[Image:362.png]]<br />
Gyrados [[Image:130.png]]<br />
Swellow [[Image:277.png]]<br />
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I moved this team to Pearl.<br />
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== Pearl Version ==<br />
Torterra [[Image:389.png]]<br />
Luxray [[Image:405.png]]<br />
Rapidash [[Image:078.png]]<br />
Lucario [[Image:448.png]]<br />
Floatzel [[Image:419.png]]<br />
Staraptor [[Image:398.png]]<br />
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== Soulsilver Version ==<br />
Steelix [[image:208.png]]<br />
Ampharos [[image:181.png]]<br />
Typhlosion [[image:157.png]]<br />
Togekiss [[image:468.png]]<br />
Quagsire [[image:195.png]]<br />
Pidgeot [[image:018.png]]<br />
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== Platinum Version ==<br />
Torterra [[image:389.png]]<br />
Luxray [[image:405.png]]<br />
Rapidash [[image:078.png]]<br />
Abomasnow [[image:460.png]]*<br />
Floatzel [[image:419.png]]<br />
Staraptor [[image:398.png]]<br />
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*yes, I know I dropped Lucario from my team. I was going to use Abomasnow in my Pearl team, but Lucario went to the Elite Four instead. Abomasnow got his opportunity this time... plus, I needed something to beat that Gliscor (yes, I can use Floatzel, but I need to use that 4X vulnerability to ice to my advantage. :)<br />
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== Diamond Version ==<br />
Torterra [[image:389.png]]<br />
Luxray [[image:405.png]]<br />
Infernape [[image:392.png]]<br />
Lucario [[image:448.png]]<br />
Empoleon [[image:395.png]]<br />
Staraptor [[image:398.png]]<br />
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*This is my only team with all 3 starters. It began as an experiment on how to get all 3 in one team. I had multiple DSs, so I tried it. The team, along with Platinum, is currently training to win the elite four challenge, as the levels are not high enough.<br />
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== How I develop my pokemon teams ==<br />
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I have determined that it is important to have a fire type, electric type, water type, and flying type in all of my teams. That typically leaves me two open spaces. Those spaces are filled with pokemon of various types.--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 17:48, 31 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Fire Red Team ==<br />
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Venusaur [[image: 003.png]] Raichu [[image: 026.png]] Arcanine [[image: 059.png]] Mr. Mime [[image: 122.png]] Cloyster [[image: 091.png]] Pidgeot [[image: 018.png]]<br />
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== First Black Unova Team ==<br />
Excadrill [[image:530.png]]<br />
Zebrstrika [[image:523.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Vanilluxe [[image:584.png]]<br />
Carracosta [[image:565.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
== Second Black Unova Team ==<br />
Krookodile [[image:553.png]]<br />
Galvantula [[image:596.png]]<br />
Darmanitan [[image:555.png]]<br />
Gothitelle [[image:576.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Swanna [[image:581.png]]<br />
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== White Unova Team ==<br />
Excadrill [[image:530.png]]<br />
Zebstrika [[image:523.png]]<br />
Emboar [[image:500.png]]<br />
Scolipede [[image:545.png]]<br />
Seismitoad [[image:537.png]]<br />
Unfezant [[image:521.png]]<br />
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== Heartgold Team ==<br />
Donphan [[image:232.png]]<br />
Ampharos [[image:181.png]]<br />
Typhlosion [[image:157.png]]<br />
Togekiss [[image:468.png]]<br />
Gyrados [[image:130.png]]<br />
Honchkrow [[image:430.png]]<br />
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== Gym Challenge ==<br />
I am in the process of training all of my teams and creating my own series of game gyms. This is the order that a challenger will battle them:<br />
1.Heartgold<br />
2.Diamond<br />
3.White<br />
4.Platinum<br />
5.Soulsilver<br />
6.Black<br />
7.Pearl<br />
8.Ruby (on Pearl)<br />
Expected finish date: Summer 2012<br />
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== Black 2 & White 2 ==<br />
When I first heard about Black 2 and White 2, I was unsure what to think about it. I thought we would have a Grey Version, but I am not complaining. My thinking is that I will have Excadrill, Zebstrika, and Emboar for my first three, but I am not sure about the other three. Due to my personal policy of not mixing regions, I am not putting anything other than Unova on these teams (unless the games force me to). I am also going to play these two at the same rate, meaning one badge for Black 2, one badge for White 2, and so on. I think that the ice in the region picture is just to cover up some secret fun things that are going to be in the games, but that is just me. We will have to wait, play some games, and find out.<br />
Proposed Team (Black 2):<br />
Excadrill<br />
Zebstrika<br />
Emboar<br />
Haxorus<br />
Seismitoad<br />
Unfezant<br />
Proposed Team (White 2):<br />
Excadrill<br />
Zebstrika<br />
Emboar<br />
Beartic<br />
Seismitoad<br />
Unfezant</div>Pokemon26