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==Talk page posts==
When you post on a talk page, please do not create two of the same topic when posting. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 23:38, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
:Ah, I apologize. If there were two submitted, it was because my browser had an error when I submitted it first. Sorry about that! [[User:Yabukuron|Yabukuron]] 23:54, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon Black and White Versions

2011-03-12T22:54:38Z

Yabukuron: /* Regarding the Blacklist of names... */ new section

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==Regions?==

Do we have any word on what the new region(s) will be? It'll be based on unused portions of real-world Japan, will it? (Like [[wikipedia:Shikoku|Shikoku]], for instance?)  --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 06:23, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:Not yet, but maybe soon.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 06:43, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
::We knew the names of Diamond and Pearl back in 2005, in the earliest days of the wiki. We didn't get the name Sinnoh until after I had joined in 2006. That's how big a gap DP gave us. Given, this is due at the end of the year, but if we knew the region name '''''I WOULD HAVE SAID SO'''''. I can read Japanese, katakana specifically, and would have made that article immediately, if I knew any more than you guys do. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:58, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:::The region's called [[Isshu]]. [[User:Empoleo]]

== French intrawiki link ==

Hello !
Since this page is protected, can someone add ''Pokémon Noir et Blanc'' as french link, please ?
Thanks
[[User:Zhuquarnage|Zhu']] 15:55, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, there's a [http://www.pokepedia.fr/index.php/Pok%C3%A9mon_Noir_et_Blanc French page], and there's also a [http://www.pokewiki.de/Pok%C3%A9mon_Black_und_White German page]. Somebody should definitely add those two. [[User:Wolf|Wolf]] 23:19, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

== Worth noting? ==

I was wondering if it was worth noting in the article that this is the first time 2 generations of Pokemon games have come out on the same system.--[[User:Pkmn|Pkmn]]
:{{game|Gold and Silver|s}} were both produced as enhanced Game Boy cartridges. So ''technically'', Gen I & II are the first two generations to come out on the same system. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 19:20, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
::Well, Gold and Silver were playable on the GB, but they were designed for and had more features on the Game Boy Color. These games (as far as we know) are being developed specifically for the DS. --[[User:Pkmn|Pkmn]]
:::And these games could easily have features for the 3DS. We're not mentioning it. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:26, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

I was wondering if it is relevant to include in the trivia that the games were the 88th most popular searches in Google reported around 9 A.M but occupied this place around 8a.m {{Unsigned|EmpoleonMaster}}

:While that is interesting I don't think it is worthy enough to not, but how did you figure this out? It's neat. [[User:Pokemon1234567890|Pokemon1234567890]] 01:43, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

::Just if anyone was wondering about where i obtained the information about the searches in the internet, i just came by this information while i was doing some research about it. Only to be more exact they were classified as mild in the "hot" or popular searches in Google, there was also provided a graphic about how much this increase was but i could not obtain it. {{Unsigned|EmpoleonMaster}}

== Vehicles ==

Just thought i'd point out before it's mentioned on this page, but the shot of a bridge with cars driving underneath ISN'T the first vehicle in a Pokémon game, as most people seem to forget the moving van in the opening of the Hoenn games. A minor point, but one i always seem to remember :P [[User:Dawnshadow|Dawnshadow]] 13:52, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

How about the S.S. Anne Truck in the Kanto games? [[User:Pokemon1234567890|Pokemon1234567890]] 01:42, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
:''I'' just want to point out that the Corocoro page didn't say that it was the first vehicle in the games, just that there will be a vehicle that has never been seen in the games before - it could be a unicycle for all we know. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 01:45, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
::Hmmm.........[[Pokémon Gold and Silver beta|Skateboard]] anybody? =P --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 02:22, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
:Or even a bus system. We shouldn't assume it will be a car. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 12:01, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

== Irony ==

Would it be worth to note the irony in the fact that the first Pokémon games, named after ''colours'', were in ''greyscale'', and now these games, named after excessively dark and excessively light ''shades of grey'', are in third-dimensional 1900+-bit ''colour''? [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] - [[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|Please don't hurt us...]] 02:00, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
:OK, that's funny. But I don't think it's too notable. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:13, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
::It could probably be noted that they're the first games since Generation 1 to be named after colors, though? I know, ''technically'', white and black aren't colors, but really no one except art students cares about that. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 02:21, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Aren't gold and silver colors in addition to metals? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 11:44, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
:::: They're all colors, except most of them are ''also'' mineral colors. I think even "Fire Red" and "Leaf Green". -- [[User:Pro-mole|Professional Mole]] ([[User talk:Pro-mole|Talk here]]) 11:09, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Re:"white and black aren't colors".What, since when? --[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 11:15, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
: White is the lack of color and black is a mixture of all colors [[User:Portuguese Old Man|Portuguese Old Man]] 20:37, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
::Not in light. the opposite is true! :P [[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu]] 23:34, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

== Gray Version ==

Do '''''not''''' discuss that here. Just like people thought from the get-go that the third version of RS was gonna be a green gem (Emerald) and third version of DP was gonna have Giratina as a mascot (Platinum), people think from the get-go that the third version to Black and White will be Gray. Congratulations! There's a ''forum'' where you can talk about it. Bulbagarden Forums has a fifth generation subforum, and that is easily a better place to put your crappy speculation for a third version to games that don't come out until the end of the year when the ''last'' third version we got took two years after its primaries to be released. And it will be Gray if it is, because "grey" is a synonym for "old". '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:14, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
:No need to get your panties in a bunch. By the way, "grey" is a perfectly acceptable variant of "gray." --[[User:Zelrio|Zelrio]] 16:16, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
::Uh, I think TTEchidna's a male. [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 15:05, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Dude, old discussion is old.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 15:31, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

== Shiny legendary dogs to unlock feature in Black/White ==

As seen in recent Pokémon news, [[shiny]] [[legendary beasts]], to be given away at the [[m13|new movie's]] premiere in Japan, will unlock a feature in the upcoming Black and White. This info also tells us it will somehow be compatible for trade between {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}, {{game|Platinum}}, and {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}.

They have unique moves that are not normally known by {{p|Raikou}}, {{p|Suicune}} and {{p|Entei}}. Raikou will know {{m|Zap Cannon}}, {{m|Aura Sphere}}, and {{m|Weather Ball}} and will hold the [[Micle berry]]; Suicune will know {{m|Sheer Cold}}, {{m|Air Slash}}, and {{m|Aqua Ring}} and will hold the [[Rowap berry]]; and Entei will know {{m|Flare Blitz}}, {{m|Howl}}, and {{m|Crush Claw}} and will hold the [[Custap berry]]. All three will also know {{m|Extremespeed}}.

Please add this! - [[User:050294|050294]] 14:44, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

== Gameplay footage released on Pokémon Sunday ==

Pokémon Sunday released footage of the female player walking in a 3D city that had some {{p|Pikachu}} animated billboards.

Video seen [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK8AYptQHpg&fmt=18 here]. - [[User:050294|050294]] 02:46, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
:You sure that was animated? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 04:21, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
::I just checked that and the billboard above the Pokémon Center in that city is pretty stationary, it is a Pikachu billboard though. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 04:36, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh well. I guess I was seeing things. - [[User:050294|050294]] 07:39, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
::::So I guess your Pokemon wont follow you anymore... [[User:Blade Bro.|Blade Bro.]]
:Maybe, maybe not. Let's leave the speculation to the forums.... *points at banner at the top of the page* —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:25, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

== What Is This For? ==

Is this for the soon-to-be-released Nintendo 3DS or for just the normal DSs?
[[User:Legendary Catcher]] 0:57:10 3 May 2010 (UTC)
:Not confirmed yet, I don't think. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 00:59, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
::Right now it appears it's for the DS, but a lot of people, such as me, think that it's going to have extra features on the 3DS. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 01:00, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
:::It was confirmed for DS since before we even had the titles. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 08:12, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
::::And it says so in the article. Wow!
::::This line of correspondence is now CLOSED. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:32, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

== Tentative websites ==

Please put these (hidden, of course) as the possible sites for the translations:

http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/ for Global (placeholder)

http://www.pokemonblackwhite.eu/ for Europe (redirect)

http://www.pokemonblackwhite.co.uk/ for the UK(redirect)

Most likely, all registered correctly.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 01:37, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

:It's official. These are the sites.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 22:01, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

::These all just redirect to the new English page. If anything is added it should be http://www.pokemon.com/blackwhite/en/ (which is the English site, by the way). --'''[[User:6259||''6259'']] 20:56, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

== Isshu Region ==

CoroCoro just confirmed that the games will be in the Isshu Region. {{unsigned|Pokemonemerfan1954}}
:Thanks, I'll update the appropriate pages. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:12, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== Starter Pics ==

I just thought that maybe since CoroCoro showed the New Starter Pics and The New Characters they maybe could be added to the page. But im not saying they should forcibly. [[User:CodyDelis|CodyDelis]]

== Sprites ==

http://i41.tinypic.com/2gt6pa0.png

Could someone replace the current sprites for revealed Pokémon with these? They're cleaned-up PNGs, in contrast to the ones we currently have, which still have JPG pixelization when zoomed in. And it's not letting me upload them myself, I assume because of the whole new Pokémon thing. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 18:11, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:The Archives are locked until Monday, so I suggest maybe you contact an active admin right now, if you want them uploaded.—♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 18:18, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

== New site link ==

http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/series/bw/

I can't edit the main page, so I'll let somebody who can put this on in place of the current link. (The link as it is now leads to a very old website, and this one has all the new information, etc.) [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 19:43, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:Never mind, the site redirects. [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 03:23, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

== Images ==

Hi. Does anyone remember me? Well, if you take a look on the PKMN Black & White Version article on the "Pokémon Wiki" on Wikia you can find other images. I suggest getting permission from the site first before using the images here. Just to let you all know! [[User:Tommy-SAN|T-SAN!]] 22:48, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:No I don't. Also, we are fine we can get our own images no need to get them from Wikia of all places. Thanks, --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチュウ!''']] 22:49, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::(conflicted) I do... And we just don't really consider Pokémon Wiki to be too realiable... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 22:52, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Okay, whatever you guys like. I don't think of it as realiable as this one either, but you can always look at the images if you want to, it gives more of an idea of what the games will look like. --[[User:Tommy-SAN|'''T☆MMY''']][[User talk:Tommy-SAN|'''SAN!''']][[Special:Contributions/Tommy-SAN|'''♂''']] 02:01, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
::::I think people already know how the games are going to be since like yesterday. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチュウ!''']] 02:03, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Pokemon Wiki probably just stole them off of someone else, sort of like how all of their info is stolen from us. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 06:14, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Considering they have an image of Sinnoh as their pic of Isshu (File:IsshuRegion.jpg on their site), they're not to be trusted for some stuff.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 22:01, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

== New Pokemon ==

http://www.pokemon.com/blackwhite/en/

Would somebody like to confirm the validity of these images?--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 16:33, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
:It's on the Japanese site too with the same exact images, so.. yes, it's confirmed. That... was sudden.... ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 16:45, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

They are official. Reshiram, and Zekrom. Confirmed on [http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/series/bw/ the Japanese site] as well. [[User:Mefredbob|Mefredbob]] 16:47, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
:Is this the first time that the English and Japanese names of any Pokémon are confirmed simultaneously? This is so friggin' awesome! - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 16:57, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
::It's weird. Have the starters or Zoroark even been confirmed in the US yet? {{unsigned|Skaisdead}}
:::No, they haven't. And I would like to add an important piece of info on this page. It turns out that the [http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/series/bw/#/product Boxarts have been revealed] [[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu]] 18:40, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

== European release date ==

[http://www.nintendo.co.uk/NOE/en_GB/news/2010/pokmon_black_version_and_pokmon_white_version_for_nintendo_ds_coming_to_europe_in_spring_2011_17844.html Spring 2011 as well] '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 17:56, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
:And that press release also confirms that these Pokémon are going to be on the cover, they state on which cover, and that they're legendaries. Fairly obvious, yes, but in here that everything needs super official confirmation, it is nice to have it (I think there had not been an official confirmation of that before this). '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 18:04, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
::It's a little strange that there was no mention of they being the cover pokémon for each version in both the Japanese press (and I read the Japanese official site) or American press, but there is a quick note about it on the UK site... Even though it's obvious that they both will be on the covers, I don't really feel like this being confirmation. They just say which will appear in which game, not the cover. But maybe that's just me.--[[User:KurowaSan|KurowaSan]] 19:14, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
:::The boxart is here, for the Japanese versions:[http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/series/bw/#/product] —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 19:16, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

==Website Links==
Somebody should update the links section with the new English website for these games. (http://www.pokemon.com/blackwhite/en//) [[User:6259|62]][[User Talk:6259|59]] 21:36, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
:That's the minisite. A full site will be made at http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/ eventually.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 22:01, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
::Or there might be construction at http://www.pokemonbw.com/ .--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 12:42, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
:::It is probably just construction because when I just tried to get onto that site IE8 said that the "site is forbidden." Probably, it will be up in the next few days. Thanks for the update. [[User:6259|62]][[User Talk:6259|59]] 21:00, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
::::It's http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/ . Trust me. Please put this on the page.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 17:45, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::And now, as per coding on Pokemon.com, it's confirmed. Adding to page.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 21:57, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

Should we add that this is the first time the games have been revealed in America before the Japanese games actually came out? — [[User:Axxonn|'''Axxonn''']][[User talk:Axxonn|the]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 18:04, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
:No. HGSS were the first games...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:11, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

we could put that reshiram and zekrom were the first pokemon to be revealed around the world at the same time in japan?
([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:13, 29 May 2010 (UTC))
:Why here though? Irrelevant... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 19:16, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
::As for the part about Reshiram and Zekrom, it's already added on their articles that are currently in my [[User:Jello/Sandbox/Reshiram (Pokémon)|sand]][[User:Jello/Sandbox/Zekrom (Pokémon)|box]]. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 19:30, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

==DS or 3DS==
Despite this article saying that this game can be played on Nintendo DS, I read the page [[Nintendo 3DS]], and saw that the game is played on 3DS not DS. Or is it the game can be played by both DS or 3DS? I am confused. Can somebody tell whether this game is played on DS or 3DS?

[[User:Tetrix|Tetrix]] 09:39, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
:This game is going to release on DS. Check out the official cover boxes of both games, it's DS. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 09:53, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
::But yes, it should be able to be played on the 3DS anyway; Nintendo has confirmed that most DS games can be played on the 3DS. Whether it's enhanced in any way by this remains to be seen. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 12:56, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

== Zekrom Link ==

The link that's supposed to link to Zekrom under the boxarts apparently leads to a page that does not exist, but when you click it, it does lead to Zekrom's Pokemon page. I assume someone made the links before they created the Zekrom page, so it stayed red. Could somebody please change this?--[[User:MewSoul|MewSoul]] 14:16, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
:All you have to do is purge the page. That makes the most current revision appear. You can purge the page by pressing the clock next to your username. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 15:07, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

== Slight edit. ==

The first paragraphs of the article:

''In addition, Pokémon battles will be fully animated, with Pokémon on both sides constantly moving, with a dynamic camera that changes focus to highlight specific parts of the battle.''

''In addition to the improved graphics, a number of aesthetic changes have been made from previous generations, including an altered battle scene, speech balloons for dialog, and a combined Pokémon Center and Poké Mart building.''

Are almost the same, I suggest merging this into one paragraph, so we don't fall into redundances. [[User:Masatoshi|'''聖人''']] [[User talk:Masatoshi|'''''wat''''']] 18:02, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

== Names in other languages ==

===In other languages===
{{langtable|color={{white color light}}|bordercolor={{black color}}
|ja=ポケットモンスターブラック・ホワイト
|fr=Pokémon Version Noire et Version Blanche
|de=Pokémon Schwarze Edition und Weiβe Edition
|it=Pokémon Versione Nera e Versione Bianca
|es=Pokémon Edición Negra y Edición Blanca}}

Since the games have been announced internationally, with the current exception being South Korea, can an admin add this to the article, please? [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 14:38, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:Okay, we got a problem here with the background color. We need the background to be white, or at least, ghost white... [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 14:55, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
::Can someone add this to the article? It is supposed to be there. Also, I think the colors I changed it to look better. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:26, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
I'd like to note that the symbol in "Weisse" (β) on the German name is actually a beta, which is a Greek letter and not the Eszett in German. The correct symbol for the Eszett is "ß". Could somebody change this? I would, but it's not letting me edit the page for some reason. - [[User:JWhitt|J]][[User_talk:JWhitt|Whitt]] 11:24, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
:Changed. Thanks for pointing it out. The reason that you couldn't edit it is that it has been protected to prevent speculation from being added. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:15, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

== 3D Buildings? ==

Did anybody else notice that the inside of the Pokémon Center is 3D? Should we add that information? [[User:Pawsrent|Pawsrent]] 16:22, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

== Release date! ==

Pokemon Sunday revealed that the release date for Black and White in Japan is September 18th, 2010. Can someone please edit this in? --[[User:Jonouchi|Jonouchi]] 23:39, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
:Done. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 23:53, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

== Inverted Pairings ==

Generation V is the first time that the pairings between version color and version mascot are '''inverted'''. (I.E. Reshiram, the White Dragon, is the version mascot of Pokémon Black while Zekrom, the Black Dragon, is the version mascot of Pokémon White.)--[[User:Arima|Arima]] 02:51, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, it is some Honkey <s>shit</s> crap. --[[User:Zelrio|Zelrio]] 13:19, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

::I think that's to fit the "Ying Yang" thing. Reshiram being the white circle in the black, and Zekrom being the black circle in the white. --[[User:KengoMel|KengoMel]] 10:42, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

==Chiramyi==
Someone edited the page, claiming this to be the correct romanisation. However, nowhere else is this used, and Chiramii is a more accurate romanisation for before the official one is released. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:38, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

== New stuff in the new Oha Suta trailer ==

*Features
**Pokémon Musicals: Appear to be Super Contests in all but name.
**PokéShifter: Already reported on. Apparently a Pal Park analogue.
*Pokémon
**A fawn
**A swan
**Miruhog (ミルホッグ): From "見る" (''miru'', to watch) and "groundhog". Obvious Minezumi evolution
*Moves
**Fire Oath (ほのおのちかい): Fire-type, 10 PP
**Nitro Charge (ニトロチャージ): Fire-type, 20 PP
**Grass Mixer (グラスミキサー): Grass-type, 10 PP
**Grass Oath (くさのちかい): Grass-type, 10 PP
**[[Blastoise (Secret Wonders 2)|Waterlog]] (みずびだし): [presumably] Water-type
*Trainer classes
**American football player
**Nurse
**Some guy with a big backpack, but he's not a bear like previous Hikers
**Baker
**Tightrope walker?
*Places
**Battle Subway
—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 07:24, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

== No walking Pokémon?? ==

So far none of the revealed images show walking Pokémon. Maybe the walking with Pokémon is just optional now but still I would think there would've been some images showing the trainer walking with Pokémon by now. (Show previous generation Pokémon walking to avoid revealing new ones too soon) If there is no walking with Pokémon in this game, I'll be a bit crushed. That feature was so fun in HeartGold and SoulSilver. I mean, these new games can very well use the Pokemon sprites from HG/SS. But if the feature is to be revealed as included in the future, would it be worth mentioning that it's the first Pokémon game with a walk with Pokémon feature that makes the feature optional? (Option to recall/send out Pokemon manually) --[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 10:15, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
:Actually, that might mean that out OD sprites on every template will have to be replaced. Damn, they look way better than the MS ones. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 10:43, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

== Removing features. ==

I Noticed in various videos promoting the game, Pokemon do not follow the trainer around as they did in HeartGold and SoulSilver. Was this feature just bound to that selection of games? --[[User:Proctor|Proctor]] 20:33, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
:The section directly above talks about the same thing. This sort of question is better for the forums. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 01:29, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

==EP links==
The Spanish link should instead lead to [[:es:Pokémon Ediciones Negra y Blanca]], and the Portuguese link that should be there is [[:pt:Pokémon Black e White]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:30, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

== Infobox game ==

Well, that template gets messed up with the gallery, can anyone fix it? [[User:Masatoshi|'''Masatoshi: Gen. II>All.''']] [[User talk:Masatoshi|'''''Discuss.''''']] 06:37, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't see any issue with it. --[[User:Goldenpelt|Gοlden]][[User talk:Goldenpelt|pelt]] 07:12, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:The infobox and gallery are too wide, so it forces the gallery below the infobox's end. Maybe you have a wider screen than me and Masatoshi do.--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:15, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
::Oh. The way it was worded, it seemed like they were saying that the template got messed up. --[[User:Goldenpelt|Gοlden]][[User talk:Goldenpelt|pelt]] 07:18, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

== Watch ==

At about 4:33 a new Pokémon can be seen and there is tons of gameplay elements.. also the evolution sequence. I'm pretty sure this is reliable and it has tons of info.
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGn4EkM5CVU]
--[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 17:00, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
:Those new Pokémon are Denchura, Doryuuzu, and Ononokusu. We've seen them before, but there's not enough information for us to have articles on them. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 17:06, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
::Also, it's been already mentioned in the news [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ads_for_Pok%C3%A9mon_Black_and_White_feature_unseen_footage here]. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 17:12, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

== Famitsu ==

Apparently, the new Famitsu issue came out, and Black and White received a 40/40. Since this is the first set of games that got this rating (the highest thus far I think was a 37/40 (what game, I'm not sure), I figure that might be included on the article, no?
[[User:MajinNecro69|MN69]] 03:28, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
:If this is added, then a Bulbanews link should be added to [[n:Famitsu gives Black and White perfect score]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:27, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

== Korea ==

Korean version has been announced several days ago. The titles are, as expected 포켓몬스터 블랙 and 포켓몬스터 화이트. The time of release - Spring 2011. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 08:20, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== This theme is "Opposite poles(対極)". ==

This theme was declared. http://weekly.ascii.jp/elem/000/000/024/24648/ [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 15:40, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:North/South rumor confirmed! Or not really. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:55, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

== Platinum Entries? ==

Has anyone else noticed that it seems like all Gen I-IV Pokémon's Pokédex entries are simply copied from Platinum, or at least from Gen IV entries? Any instances where this is untrue?--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 22:34, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
:They are all the 'Dex entries from Platinum. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pikachu!''']] 00:00, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Well then, there's somethin trivia-worthy.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 02:00, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

== Release date ==

Hey guys, I just went to GameFaqs today in an attempt to get Gaurdian signs (it comes out tomorrow...) and they gave me a list of games release dates. Guess what two other Pokemon games were on the List? If you guessed Pokemon Black and Pokemon white...you win. It said the release date was 04/02/11. April 2nd 2011 [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 17:45, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:Bulbanews it. I don't know if it's true, but a draft won't hurt. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:54, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::GameFAQs, Gamespot, and other sites always make a fake date around that time. Then HeartGold and SoulSilver ended up coming out half a month earlier. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 16:16, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:::They're called placeholder dates, not fake. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 23:45, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== Back to Basics ==
Wasn't sure if it should be mentioned in the summary or its own section, but the article should mention that the creators wanted to give players the brand new feel of Red and Green/Blue all over again. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 05:04, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== C-Gear ==

I was looking at the features tab, and noticed that the 3.1 C-Gear heading was empty. There was also a C-Gear page that was deleted for some reason. I found a page on Serebii.net -> http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/cgear.shtml. Could someone maybe add this in or explain what the deal is? Thanks. --[[User:Jdthebud|Jdthebud]] 06:39, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
:We don't currently have the info on the C-Gear because no-one has added it yet. Feel free to. And feel free to create a page for it. The one that was deleted was deleted because someone had confused it with the Live Caster, and written the article about the Live Caster. Also, please remember that other fansites are not reliable sources of info. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 07:50, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks. I don't really use Serebii that much for "reliability", I was just seeing if any preliminary info was out there. I am not really able to make a page as I don't know anything about it, I was just wondering about the deleted page and the fact that a blank section doesn't really look right - If there's nothing to put under it, then it shouldn't be there, IMO. However, that has been remedied, and thanks for responding. You answered my question well! --[[User:Jdthebud|Jdthebud]] 01:00, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

== Shouldn't the Famitsu thing be RECEPTION? ==

As above.--[[User talk:444Zekrom|444]][[User:444Zekrom|Z]][[Zekrom|ekrom]] 09:39, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Shroomish ==

It's actually exclusive to Pokémon Black. I know because I caught one. I think it might be Paras that is exclusive to Pokémon White. Just guessing cause they're mushrooms. It needs to be fixed. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 19:25, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

== US Release Date ==

I recently found that the US release date for [[Pokémon Black and White Versions]], which is April 2, 2011. I discovered this information as I was pre-ordering them at GameStop. Is this considered a reliable source of information, and is there any way of putting the US release date on the page? Thanks! --[[User:Galladequaza|'''Gallade''']][[User:Galladequaza|'''quaza''']]
:No, it's not reliable. GameStop guesses at release dates when it comes to preorders, just so they have more to promise than the vague "Spring 2010". Until we get something from Nintendo themselves, we aren't adding any specific dates. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 01:33, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::Not to mention that's a Saturday and Nintendo releases new games on Sunday. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 15:58, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

== A Bit More Trivia ==
In the trivia section, there's a note that points out many 'staples' of the series that BW do not feature (three rods, Game Corner, etc.). Isn't it worthy to add to that section that BW are also the first games that are not remakes, since the first generation, where the male protagonist's name doesn't end in "ki" (Hibiki, Yuji and Koki) and the female's name doesn't have the syllable "ka" (Haruka and Hikari)? [[User:Veggietable|Veggietable]] 15:30, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

== Australian Release Date ==

Is the Australian Release Date refering to Australian Spring or North Hemisphere Spring? It seems unfair that we have to wait three months after the rest of the world. [[User:Maril and Co.|Mr. Maril Of Oldale]] 00:54, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
:The Australian minisite says "Early 2011", so I've updated the page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:38, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I assume this was put in by someone who didn't know we have Autumn when Americans have spring [[User:Maril and Co.|Mr. Maril Of Oldale]] 03:10, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

== Characters' History ==

Apparently Nintendo Dream had an interview a while back regarding the origins of some of the games' characters, such as N and the Gym Leaders. I found some translations/impressions from the interview [http://pokejungle.net/2010/11/22/character-designs-and-inspirations/ here] and [http://www.pokecommunity.com/showpost.php?p=6321861&postcount=24 here], but not the actual reported interview. Anyone want to search for it and place the info on the articles? [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 08:51, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

==Possible English Release date==

This may not be correct so don't jump to conclusions yet but a flyer at gamestop listing next years game releases it listed Pokémon Black and white for '''Sunday April 17, 2011''' This seems official to me I don't think Gamestop would lie, but I'll look for furthur details. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 17:30, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
:Gamestop's had placeholder release dates before. I'd take it with a huge-ass grain of salt. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 17:32, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
::Well it follows the previous release date times on Sunday and in spring. Remember I did not say it was confirmed so don't tell me I'm wrong. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 17:36, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Not saying you're wrong, just saying there exists the possibility of it not being right. Plus, I'm really hoping for a March release date. It's earlier. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 20:22, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Gamestop used placeholders all the time. They gave three different HG/SS dates and two different Guardian Signs dates. Those release date books they have aren't the most reliable. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 01:47, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

== New PBW Template ==

I don't know how to make templates but I have an idea. It might look messy but you never know. Since there are no walking Pokémon in PBW could there be separate party templates for Gen V and Gen I-IV, Gen V with MS sprites and Gen I-IV with OD sprites? —[[User:Strongriver|強力な]][[User talk:Strongriver|河川]][[Special:Contributions/Strongriver|!]] 09:33, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:That's not really relevant to this page. It would look very messy, especially considering that some pages have two party templates. I think that it is best to just leave it the way it is. Hopefully we get OD sprites in another Generation V game. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:08, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

=={{template|Infobox_game}} template ==
Right now game titles are writen with black font on almost black background, it's kinda hard to read. If one to swap ''colorscheme'' and ''bordercolorscheme'', titles become easier to read, but titles of subcategories (Basic Info, Ratings...) contrary harder and infobox itself looks worse and less appealing. Is there a way to change titles color to white? It would make more sense and be easier to read... --[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 12:34, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
:How's that? [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 18:50, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

== Battle Revolution Compatability? ==

So I'm guessing these don't work with Battle Revolution, unless the 3-D sprites, announcer voice-overs, and move cinematics are loaded from the games, which I don't think they do
[[User:ChknNuggets|ChknNuggets]] 17:44, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
:They don't. The disclaimer on the bottom of the Japanese boxes says as such. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 09:56, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

== Trivia: Catching version mascot? ==

The Trivia section states that the game requires the player to catch Reshiram/Zekrom in order to continue the plot ... but back in ''Ruby/Sapphire'' the player had to fight Groudon or Kyogre as part of the story, and in ''HeartGold/SoulSilver'' the player is required to battle their version mascot before they can surf out of New Bark Town and proceed towards Victory Road.

So does this mean the player is specifically required to ''catch'' their version mascot, and not merely face it in a battle? If so, Black/White are indeed the first generation to do this, but as the US release isn't for another few months, that's just a guess and I could be wrong. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]] 07:32, 20 January 2011 (UTC)''
:I think that it was clear enough before. It said "required to catch", so I don't see that as misleading. In the other games where you have to battle the version mascot, you are not "required to catch" them. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:36, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

== ? ==

Do these games require 3DS, or does a normal DS Lite run these games? Just askin' before I make the decision to purchase either game. =) --[[User:Neekerisanni123|Sanni]] 16:23, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
:Any console with "DS" in its name works.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 16:31, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

== Glitch ==

There seems to be a glitch with the main infobox in this article; the words "Black" and "White" in the heading are overlapping. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 11:46, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
::It's probably just your browser. Everything looks fine to me. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 19:29, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Oh, that's right. . . that was pointed out to me before, but I couldn't figure out why it was doing that. The only thing I could think of now was IE stacking the tables which were all in the same cell, which it shouldn't be doing anyway. I separated them into separate cells, so it should be all fixed now. Hopefully I haven't introduced any other bugs. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:53, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

== Trivia ==
The trivia states that these games are the first games since yellow to be named after colours but black and white are not actually colours ([[User:Matty19892009|Matty19892009]] 14:07, 23 January 2011 (UTC))
:New comments to the bottom please. And if they aren't colours, would you mind telling me what colour this text is? How about this text? [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:32, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
::Oh, and don't even mention Gold and Silver being colors. I'm pretty sure they're supposed to be named after the minerals of gold and silver. --[[User:BeeBwakka|Bee]] [[Special:Random|§]] [[User talk:BeeBwakka|Bwakka]] 01:36, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Actually, Gold and Silver are named after the colors. In Japanese, there is a distinction between Gold and Silver as metals and as colors, and the games use the colors in their names. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:21, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

== Antiwar ideas that stay in Pokémon Black and White ==

The developer included antiwar ideas to Pokémon Black and White. [http://www22.atwiki.jp/bwhuman?cmd=upload&act=open&pageid=48&file=%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BF%E7%94%BB%E5%83%8F6.jpg]
The name of the magazine is Da Vinci.[http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir_english/?p=244][[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 08:13, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

== Game Informer Review ==

Game Informer gave the games a 8.75 out of 10 in the issue I just got today.--[[User:Marchbaby|Marchbaby]] 00:10, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

It has been a few days since I added the above and since it was not changed I am adding it now. Feel free to rewrite it to be better than what I have done.--[[User:Marchbaby|Marchbaby]] 22:45, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
:Thank you. Next time you find out something new, feel free to add it right away :) —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:00, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. I thought you guys did the table thing for reviews like on Wikipedia so I posted this before checking but since it is only text here I am glad since I cannot do the tables on a wiki to save my life. I will keep looking for more reviews.I did find that videogamer.com gave the games a 9 out of 10 so I will add that as well.

== Music ==
Nobody thought to add the fact that the music changes depending on the battle situation? *Adds* [[User:PoketoaTheFirefox|PoketoaTheFirefox]] 17:13, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

== Doubtful source. ==

Also, some of the new Pokémon appearing in both games were designed by James Turner of Nintendo of America instead of Game Freak's design team. This is to tie up with the American feel of Black and White.

1 "James Turner" belongs to Nintendo of America.

2 This is to tie up with the American feel of Black and White.

Where is this source? "James Turner" is an employee of game freak.[http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/staff/?p=204][[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 18:08, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

== Time after the other generations? ==

Should we include how many years after the previous Generations Generation V occurs?

If Gen. I and III occur at the same time, and Gen. II and and IV occur 3 years after that, then we can narrow Generation V down to happening at least 1 year after Generation II/IV due to Cynthia mentioning being beaten by the protagonist of Generation IV.

Just a thought [[User:Robster10|Robster10]] 18:41, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
:Fourth paragraph of the [[Generation V]] article:
::Generation V occurs an unknown amount of time after Generation II and Generation IV. The Team Rocket Grunt who stole the Machine Part appears, saying that while he had intended to revive Team Rocket upon returning home, he instead fell in love and had a son. Cynthia mentions visiting the Distortion World and being defeated by a young Trainer as Sinnoh League Champion.
:—[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 18:44, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Ah okay, i didnt notice that on the Generation V Page.
[[User:Robster10|Robster10]] 18:47, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

== Special DSi Bundle ==

Do we have information on the new DSi bundles anywhere on the site? They just got confirmed by IGN, but I wasn't sure if it was official before. [[User:NotSteve|NotSteve]] 22:54, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
:I checked and it wasn't, so I put it there. --[[User:NotSteve|NotSteve]] 16:00, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
::GAME in the UK have been advertising them for about two weeks or so. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 01:05, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon Black and White getting new features on the 3DS? ==

As we know now, the the 3DS has been released in Japan (http://ds.ign.com/articles/115/1152699p1.html). I remember reading back on IGN that Pokemon Black and White would get more features than just the DSi's features only if played on the 3DS instead (can't find the page to link to, but I swear I saw something like that). Has anyone actually tested Black or White on a 3DS to see if anything gets added? I know the games have Infrared, but the 3DS only has that. If we find 3DS exclusive features, maybe we could note that in the article somewhere. [[User:RedLuigi|RedLuigi]] 00:29, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
:IGN was wrong. The creators of the games confirmed there were no 3DS features. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 05:32, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
::I believe that it has the same enhancements that it has on [[Nintendo DSi]] and [[Nintendo DSi XL]], where it uses the camera, and this is where the misconception came from. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:36, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
:::Ah, I see now. No wonder I couldn't find the article for it, IGN probably deleted it after realizing their mistake. [[User:RedLuigi|RedLuigi]] 16:40, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

== 3rd March ==

It should also be added that people who pre-ordered early online with GAME in the UK got their copy of the game today (in most cases) [[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993 used to be Robbo5002]] 19:40, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
:No it shouldn't. It's very common for some people to get the games early. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 20:05, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

== White and Black? Where did that come from? ==

''"These games are being advertised as "White and Black" instead of Black and White at Toys "R" Us."''

Um, I work at Toys "R" Us, and I can tell you that this is certainly not the case. They're being advertised as "Black and White", just like they are everywhere else. I even have a promotional display from Toys "R" Us that I got to take home that I'm looking at right now, and guess what is says? Not "White and Black".

And even if that was true, it seems like rather useless trivia, much like most of the trivia on this wiki... Seriously, a page shouldn't have 30 lines of trivia.
[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 22:28, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
:In what country do you work in?[[User:The Sandwich Oven|That Sammich]] [[user talk:The Sandwich Oven|Omnomnom]] [[Pokémon Ranger (Ranger series)|Rangers lead the way.]] 22:43, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
::United States. Why? [[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 23:00, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
:::Different stores in different countries might do other things, such as this trivia piece.[[User:The Sandwich Oven|That Sammich]] [[user talk:The Sandwich Oven|Omnomnom]] [[Pokémon Ranger (Ranger series)|Rangers lead the way.]] 00:41, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:Seriously, It's just switched around. It's not notable trivia. Please let's end this discussion. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 00:46, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

I aree with --Pokemaster97 on ths one that it is not notable and should be deleted even if iis true. noticed ialready has and I am hay to see that was deleted.--[[User:Marchbaby|Marchbaby]] 15:28, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

== Probably not worth it in the trivia section but.. ==

This probably isn't worth noting in the trivia section (and we don't have an [[Instruction Booklet]] article), but on page 28 of the NA White version instruction booklet it has a spelling mistake - it says "informaiton" instead of "information". Thought I'd point that out in case someone finds it trivia worthy. [[User:Xxcom9a|Xxcom9a]] 02:27, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
:I can confirm that this is not the case in the Australian version. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:41, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

== Regarding the Blacklist of names... ==

It seems to be unchanged from the Japanese version, which only covers words up to 5 letters long. IE: I was able to name my Purrloin 'Asshole' because I wanted to test if it was updated. It doesn't look like it was. It sort of makes the blacklist ineffective. [[User:Yabukuron|Yabukuron]] 22:54, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

== Regarding the Blacklist of names... ==

It seems to be unchanged from the Japanese version, which only covers words up to 5 letters long. IE: I was able to name my Purrloin 'Asshole' because I wanted to test if it was updated. It doesn't look like it was. It sort of makes the blacklist ineffective. [[User:Yabukuron|Yabukuron]] 22:54, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon Black and White Versions

2011-03-12T22:54:16Z

Yabukuron: /* Regarding the Blacklist of names... */ new section

Ghetsis

2011-03-12T22:44:39Z

Yabukuron: /* Names */ I noticed that his french name wasn't here out of all of them....So I added it. Names are from the official French Canadian and France's French site.

{{incomplete}}
{{CharInfobox|
color={{white color light}}|
corecolor=999999|
bordercolor={{black color dark}}|
name=Ghetsis Harmonia |
jname=ゲーチス |
tmname=Gēchisu |
slogan=no |
image=Black White Ghetsis.png |
size=185px|
caption=Artwork from Black and White |
gender=Male|
hometown=Unknown |
region=[[Unova]] |
relatives=[[N]] ({{tt|son|While Ghetsis claims to be N's father, Sage Ryoku doubts that the two are related}})|
trainer=no|
trainerclass=Unknown |
game=yes |
generation={{Gen|V}}|
games={{2v2|Black|White}}|
leader=no |
team=yes |
teamname=[[Team Plasma]] |
teamrank=[[Seven Sages|Sage]] |
anime=no|
epnum=Best Wishes series|
epname=Best Wishes series|
enva=N/A |
java=N/A |
}}
'''Ghetsis Harmonia''' (Japanese: '''ゲーチス''' ''Gēchisu'') is one of the [[Seven Sages]] of [[Team Plasma]].

==In the games==
{{spoiler}}
Ghetsis first appears in [[Accumula Town]] trying to rally its citizens. After that, he appears at several points in the game trying to warn the citizens of the oncoming change. He later appears at the castle during his son [[N]]'s takeover and unwillingly lets the player battle N. After the player defeats N, he reveals he has been using N and revived {{p|Zekrom}}/{{p|Reshiram}} for N to use, and calls N a disappointment. He reveals that his and Team Plasma's motive for stealing Pokémon was a lie all along and that Ghetsis wanted to ensure that he was the only person in Unova with Pokémon, so he could dominate the region. [[Alder]] and [[Cheren]] both hear this. Ghetsis battles the player in a rage, despite N's protest. After the battle, Alder and Cheren arrest Ghetsis and take him away. He is not seen again.

When the player meets the [[Shadow Triad]] for the final time, it is revealed that they rescued Ghetsis from captivity and that he is currently on the run. He has lost everything, and only the Shadow Triad are still loyal to him.

===Battle match===
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|sprite=Spr BW Ghetsis.png
|prize={{pdollar}}9720
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===Sprites===
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{black color dark}}; background: #{{white color light}};"
|- align=center
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{black color dark}}; background: #999999; width:80px"| [[File:Spr BW Ghetsis.png]]
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{black color dark}}; background: #999999; width:80px"| [[File:VSGhetsis.png]]
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{black color dark}}; background: #999999; width:80px"| [[File:Ghetsiswalkdown.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Ghetsis's sprite from {{colorlink|Generation V|000}}
| Ghetsis's VS sprite from {{colorlink|Generation V|000}}
| Ghetsis's overworld sprite from {{colorlink|Generation V|000}}
|}



==In the manga==
[[File:Ghetsis Adventures.png|thumb|225px|Ghetsis in Pokémon Adventures]]
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
Ghetsis first appeared in [[Accumula Town]] in [[Team Plasma]]'s campaign to let the people free their Pokémon to be truly equal with them, which proved effective on the citizens of the town.

==Trivia==
* The top of Ghetsis's robes resembles the battlements of a castle.
* Ghetsis's {{p|Hydreigon}} is [[Level#Underleveled Pokémon|underleveled]]; {{p|Zweilous}} does not evolve until level 64.
* Ghetsis is the only antagonist in the main games that uses a [[pseudo-legendary]] Pokémon.

==Names==
{| class="roundy" align="left" style="background: #{{white color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{black color dark}}"
|- align=center
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Language
! Name
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Origin
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Japanese
| ゲーチス ''Gēchisu''
| From "G" and "Cis" (C♯), the pitches of the timpanis used in his battle theme. Could also be romanized as Goetis, derived from Goetia, Greek for "sorcery". The combonation of "G" and "Cis" is a tritone, sometimes referred to as "Diabolus en Musica" (The '''Devil''' in the Music) in the 18th century.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|English
|Ghetsis
|Corrupted romanization of the Japanese name.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Spanish
|Ghechis
|More straightforward romanization of the Japanese name.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|German
|G-Cis
|Romanization of the Japanese name.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|French
|Ghetis
|Romanization of the Japanese name.
|}

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|- align=center
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Language
! Name
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Origin
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Japanese
| Harmonia
| From "Harmonic"
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|}

{{Team Plasma}} 
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}

[[Category:Male characters]]
[[Category:Black and White characters]]
[[Category:Members of Team Plasma]]
[[Category:Criminal masterminds]]
[[Category:Pokémon Adventures characters]]

[[de:G-Cis]]
[[fr:Ghetis]]
[[ja:ゲーチス]]

Hone Claws (move)

2010-12-06T23:21:36Z

Yabukuron:

{{move|Hone Claws (move)}}
{{incomplete}}
{{MoveInfobox|
n=468 |
name=Hone Claws |
jname=つめとぎ|
jtrans=Claw Sharpen |
desc={{tt|ツメを　磨いて　鋭く　する。自分の　攻撃と　命中率を　あげる。|The user sharpens its claws or nails by polishing them. Its Attack and Accuracy stats are raised.}} |
gameimage=BW Prerelease Zoroark battle.png |
type=Dark |
damagecategory=Status |
basepp=15 |
maxpp=24 |
power=- |
accuracy=- |
gen=V |
tm5=yes |
tm#5=01 |
na=no |
pokefordex=Claw+Sharpen |
touches=no |
protect=no |
magiccoat=no |
snatch=yes |
brightpowder=no |
kingsrock=no |
flag7=no |
flag8=no |
sound=no |
target=self |
footnotes= }}
'''Hone Claws''' (Japanese: '''つめとぎ''' ''Claw Sharpen'') is a non-damaging {{type2|Dark}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation V]].

==Effect==
Hone Claws raises the user's {{stat|Attack}} and {{stat|Accuracy}} by one stage each.
==Learnset==
===[[Generation V]]===
{{Learnlist|Dark}}
{{Moveentry|215|Sneasel|2|Dark|Ice|35}}
{{Moveentry|431|Glameow|1|Normal||48}}
{{Moveentry|432|Purugly|1|Normal||60}}
{{Moveentry|451|Skorupi|2|Poison|Bug|45}}
{{Moveentry|452|Drapion|2|Poison|Dark|48}}
{{Moveentry|461|Weavile|2|Dark|Ice|35}}
{{Moveentry|509|Choroneko|1|Dark||24}}
{{Moveentry|510|Lepardas|1|Dark||26}}
{{Moveentry|529|Mogurew|1|Ground||22}}
{{Moveentry|530|Doryuzu|2|Ground|Steel|22}}
{{Moveentry|571|Zoroark|1|Dark||-- 9}}
{{Moveentry|621|Crimgan|1|Dragon||5}}
{{Moveentry|627|Washibon|2|Normal|Flying|14}}
{{Moveentry|628|Wargle|2|Normal|Flying|14}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

===By [[TM01]]===
{{Learnlist/TM|Dark}}
{{Moveentrytm|004|Charmander|1|Fire||}}
{{Moveentrytm|005|Charmeleon|1|Fire||}}
{{Moveentrytm|006|Charizard|2|Fire|Flying|}}
{{Moveentrytm|027|Sandshrew|1|Ground||}}
{{Moveentrytm|028|Sandslash|1|Ground||}}
{{Moveentrytm|029|Nidoran♀|1|Poison||}}
{{Moveentrytm|030|Nidorina|1|Poison||}}
{{Moveentrytm|031|Nidoqueen|2|Poison|Ground|}}
{{Moveentrytm|032|Nidoran♂|1|Poison||}}
{{Moveentrytm|033|Nidorino|1|Poison||}}
{{Moveentrytm|034|Nidoking|2|Poison|Ground|}}
{{Moveentrytm|046|Paras|2|Bug|Grass|}}
{{Moveentrytm|047|Parasect|2|Bug|Grass|}}
{{Moveentrytm|050|Diglett|1|Ground||}}
{{Moveentrytm|051|Dugtrio|1|Ground||}}
{{Moveentrytm|052|Meowth|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|053|Persian|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|054|Psyduck|1|Water||}}
{{Moveentrytm|055|Golduck|1|Water||}}
{{Moveentrytm|056|Mankey|1|Fighting||}}
{{Moveentrytm|057|Primeape|1|Fighting||}}
{{Moveentrytm|098|Krabby|1|Water||}}
{{Moveentrytm|099|Kingler|1|Water||}}
{{Moveentrytm|140|Kabuto|2|Rock|Water|}}
{{Moveentrytm|141|Kabutops|2|Rock|Water|}}
{{Moveentrytm|142|Aerodactyl|2|Rock|Flying|}}
{{Moveentrytm|149|Dragonite|2|Dragon|Flying|}}
{{Moveentrytm|151|Mew|1|Psychic||}}
{{Moveentrytm|158|Totodile|1|Water||}}
{{Moveentrytm|159|Croconaw|1|Water||}}
{{Moveentrytm|160|Feraligatr|1|Water||}}
{{Moveentrytm|161|Sentret|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|162|Furret|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|167|Spinarak|2|Bug|Poison|}}
{{Moveentrytm|168|Ariados|2|Bug|Poison|}}
{{Moveentrytm|190|Aipom|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|207|Gligar|2|Ground|Flying|}}
{{Moveentrytm|215|Sneasel|2|Dark|Ice|}}
{{Moveentrytm|216|Teddiursa|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|217|Ursaring|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|248|Tyranitar|2|Rock|Dark|}}
{{Moveentrytm|254|Sceptile|1|Grass||}}
{{Moveentrytm|255|Torchic|2|Fire||}}
{{Moveentrytm|256|Combusken|2|Fire|Fighting|}}
{{Moveentrytm|257|Blaziken|2|Fire|Fighting|}}
{{Moveentrytm|263|Zigzagoon|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|264|Linoone|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|271|Lombre|2|Water|Grass|}}
{{Moveentrytm|272|Ludicolo|2|Water|Grass|}}
{{Moveentrytm|287|Slakoth|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|288|Vigoroth|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|289|Slaking|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|290|Nincada|2|Bug|Ground|}}
{{Moveentrytm|291|Ninjask|2|Bug|Flying|}}
{{Moveentrytm|292|Shedinja|2|Bug|Ghost|}}
{{Moveentrytm|302|Sableye|2|Dark|Ghost|}}
{{Moveentrytm|304|Aron|2|Steel|Rock|}}
{{Moveentrytm|305|Lairon|2|Steel|Rock|}}
{{Moveentrytm|306|Aggron|2|Steel|Rock|}}
{{Moveentrytm|330|Flygon|2|Ground|Dragon|}}
{{Moveentrytm|334|Altaria|2|Dragon|Flying|}}
{{Moveentrytm|335|Zangoose|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|341|Corphish|1|Water||}}
{{Moveentrytm|342|Crawdaunt|2|Water|Dark|}}
{{Moveentrytm|347|Anorith|2|Rock|Bug|}}
{{Moveentrytm|348|Armaldo|2|Rock|Bug|}}
{{Moveentrytm|352|Kecleon|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|359|Absol|1|Dark||}}
{{Moveentrytm|371|Bagon|1|Dragon||}}
{{Moveentrytm|372|Shelgon|1|Dragon||}}
{{Moveentrytm|373|Salamence|2|Dragon|Flying|}}
{{Moveentrytm|375|Metang|2|Steel|Psychic|}}
{{Moveentrytm|376|Metagross|2|Steel|Psychic|}}
{{Moveentrytm|379|Registeel|1|Steel||}}
{{Moveentrytm|380|Latias|2|Dragon|Psychic|}}
{{Moveentrytm|381|Latios|2|Dragon|Psychic|}}
{{Moveentrytm|383|Groudon|1|Ground||}}
{{Moveentrytm|384|Rayquaza|2|Dragon|Flying||}}
{{Moveentrytm|390|Chimchar|1|Fire||}}
{{Moveentrytm|391|Monferno|2|Fire|Fighting|}}
{{Moveentrytm|392|Infernape|2|Fire|Fighting|}}
{{Moveentrytm|394|Prinplup|1|Water||}}
{{Moveentrytm|395|Empoleon|2|Water|Steel|}}
{{Moveentrytm|402|Kricketune|1|Bug||}}
{{Moveentrytm|416|Vespiquen|2|Bug|Flying|}}
{{Moveentrytm|424|Ambipom|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|431|Glameow|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|432|Purugly|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|434|Stunky|2|Poison|Dark|}}
{{Moveentrytm|435|Skuntank|2|Poison|Dark|}}
{{Moveentrytm|443|Gible|2|Dragon|Ground|}}
{{Moveentrytm|444|Gabite|2|Dragon|Ground|}}
{{Moveentrytm|445|Garchomp|2|Dragon|Ground|}}
{{Moveentrytm|448|Lucario|2|Fighting|Steel|}}
{{Moveentrytm|451|Skorupi|2|Poison|Bug|}}
{{Moveentrytm|452|Drapion|2|Poison|Dark|}}
{{Moveentrytm|461|Weavile|2|Dark|Ice|}}
{{Moveentrytm|472|Gliscor|2|Ground|Flying|}}
{{Moveentrytm|483|Dialga|2|Steel|Dragon|}}
{{Moveentrytm|484|Palkia|2|Water|Dragon|}}
{{Moveentrytm|487|Giratina|2|Ghost|Dragon|}}
{{Moveentrytm|487|Giratina|2|Ghost|Dragon||Origin}}
{{Moveentrytm|493|Arceus|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|509|Choroneko|1|Dark||}}
{{Moveentrytm|510|Lepardas|1|Dark||}}
{{Moveentrytm|511|Yanappu|1|Grass||}}
{{Moveentrytm|512|Yanakkie|1|Grass||}}
{{Moveentrytm|513|Baoppu|1|Fire||}}
{{Moveentrytm|514|Baokkie|1|Fire||}}
{{Moveentrytm|515|Hiyappu|1|Water||}}
{{Moveentrytm|516|Hiyakkie|1|Water||}}
{{Moveentrytm|529|Mogurew|1|Ground||}}
{{Moveentrytm|530|Doryuzu|2|Ground|Steel|}}
{{Moveentrytm|542|Hahakomori|2|Bug|Grass|}}
{{Moveentrytm|551|Meguroco|2|Ground|Dark|}}
{{Moveentrytm|552|Waruvile|2|Ground|Dark|}}
{{Moveentrytm|553|Waruvial|2|Ground|Dark|}}
{{Moveentrytm|557|Ishizumai|2|Bug|Rock|}}
{{Moveentrytm|558|Iwaparesu|2|Bug|Rock|}}
{{Moveentrytm|566|Aaken|2|Rock|Flying|}}
{{Moveentrytm|567|Archeos|2|Rock|Flying|}}
{{Moveentrytm|570|Zorua|1|Dark||}}
{{Moveentrytm|571|Zoroark|1|Dark||}}
{{Moveentrytm|597|Tesshido|2|Grass|Steel|}}
{{Moveentrytm|598|Nattorei|2|Grass|Steel|}}
{{Moveentrytm|604|Shibirudon|1|Electric||}}
{{Moveentrytm|610|Kibago|1|Dragon||}}
{{Moveentrytm|611|Onondo|1|Dragon||}}
{{Moveentrytm|612|Ononokus|1|Dragon||}}
{{Moveentrytm|613|Kumasyun|1|Ice||}}
{{Moveentrytm|614|Tsunbear|1|Ice||}}
{{Moveentrytm|621|Crimgan|1|Dragon||}}
{{Moveentrytm|624|Komatana|2|Dark|Steel|}}
{{Moveentrytm|625|Kirikizan|2|Dark|Steel|}}
{{Moveentrytm|627|Washibon|2|Normal|Flying|}}
{{Moveentrytm|628|Wargle|2|Normal|Flying|}}
{{Moveentrytm|631|Kuitaran|1|Fire||}}
{{Moveentrytm|632|Aianto|2|Bug|Steel|}}
{{Moveentrytm|638|Cobalon|2|Steel|Fighting|}}
{{Moveentrytm|643|Reshiram|2|Dragon|Fire|}}
{{Moveentrytm|644|Zekrom|2|Dragon|Electric|}}
{{Moveentrytm|646|Kyurem|2|Dragon|Ice|}}
{{Moveentrytm|648|Meloetta|2|Normal|Psychic||Voice}}
{{Moveentrytm|648|Meloetta|2|Normal|Fighting||Step}}
{{Moveentrytm|649|Genesect|2|Bug|Steel|}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

==Trivia==
* This move, along with {{m|Coil Around}}, are the only moves that always raise the {{stat|Accuracy}} stat.
* This move is the first [[Generation V]] move in [[index number]] order.

{{Bulk Up}}
{{Generation V TMs}}
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}

[[de:Tsume togi]]