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Talk:Dawn's Quilava

2009-09-21T00:16:07Z

WolfMan of Light: /* Male or Female */

== Trivia ==
Is it trivia worthy that both Dawn's and Ash's Cyndaquil had to be recieved by defeating a trainer. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 11:51, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
: No because Ash already caught Cyndaquil before the trainer battled him. The guy was just a wimp because he didnt get Cyndaqul so he insulted Ash, which caused Ash to battle him. [[User:BAC510]] 17:24, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

One thing I would like to note that could be potential trivia is that similar to it's rivalry with Piplup which Piplup started, [[Ash's Bayleef]] started a rivalry with his {{AP|Pikachu}} back when it was a Chikorita and that jealousy between trainer and Pokémon was involved in both cases. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 05:12, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
:One big difference, Chikorita's was one-sided. Pikachu never fought back. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 12:28, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

== Tackle???? ==

Was that a real tackle? I know that piplup and cyndaquil were fighting and they tackled each other but i think that wasn't an official attack. What do you think? --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 18:16, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah It Was! {{u|Manaphy1}} 18th September, 16:52

== Pic? ==

Would This Pic Work As The Picture Of Cyndaquil Better?

[[File:Dawn's_Cyndaquil8.jpg|500px|Cyndaquil Just Before The Title Card Appears]]

It's My Own Pic From My Archive Account: Manaphy1archive

{{u|Manaphy1}} 18th September, 16:51
: It's often said that a picture of a trainer's Pokémon is better with the trainer in the pic, like the existing one. Plus, that picture shows less detail about it than the existing one. I mean it's up to the admin's, but that's what I think. [[User:Torngentleman2|MAMOSWINEPwnz! (Torngentleman2)]] 19:48, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
::Actually, according to an admin I talked to a while ago (I believe Sketch), they said have the trainer in the pic is not a requirement, and they don't prefer one over the other. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 20:05, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
:IMO, I think it's better to have a trainer in the picture, just so it differentiates the Pokémon from a wild one. [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 02:49, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
::Sorry, but the current image looks better than yours. Yours is in JPG format (PNG is preferred), and has that cut image of Pikachu. '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 02:58, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

== Male or Female ==

You know I was wondering what gender Dawn's Cyndaquil actually is (I haven't watched Pokemon much and didn't know about Cyndaquil until I seen this). If it is anything like May's Venusaur then I think it might be female but who knows.

My question to anyone reading this is, has it acted distinctly masculine or femanine. [[User:WolfMan of Light|De Wolfy is here]] 23:47, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:Acting doesn't really cut it. It needs to be stated by someone else. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:49, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
::Hey don't get all bent out of shape I'm not saying for the article to be changed or anything I am just wondering what other people think on the subject. [[User:WolfMan of Light|De Wolfy is here]] 00:16, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Dawn's Quilava

2009-09-20T23:47:40Z

WolfMan of Light: /* Male or Female */ new section

Talk:DP128

2009-06-15T14:33:11Z

WolfMan of Light: /* Scary or what: Paul and Brandon */

The Nidoking is Paul's too. It's pretty obvious. [[User:Dilophosaurus Rex|Dilophosaurus Rex]] 14:19, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
:Good for you... Wait till it airs. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:32, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
== Reggie? ==

Was he in the preview? I didn't see him. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 02:50, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:[http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=11361&d=1242300657 From the forums.] '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 02:54, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

== Glameow ==

Please add Zoey's Glameow to the list of Pokémon. I saw it in Serebii's screenshot, along with Reggie... [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 14:48, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

== Nidoking and Paul ==
Why the name of the Paul is not beside the name of the Nidoking? And why
has not it his image in the page of the Paul?
'''[[User:The-Black-Mamulte]]''' 20:23, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
:We don't have confirmation that it's Paul's. For all we know it could be a random Nidoking. Wait until the episode airs. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:26, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

'''And what times is the Pokemon?''' [[User:The-Black-Mamulte]] 20:23, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
:Um... what...? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 00:45, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
The anime of Pokemon! I only there wanted to know who the time-table what it begins[[User talk:The-Black-Mamulte|The-Black-Mamulte]] 14:49, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
:You want to know when it's on? Your sentence structure is awkward. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 15:25, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

== Scary or what: Paul and Brandon ==

I was just looking at the poster for this episode and I thought on how scary it is on how much Paul and Brandon look alike I mean they even have the same kind of serious face. [[User:WolfMan of Light|De Wolfy is here]] 14:33, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Talk:DP128

2009-06-15T14:31:04Z

WolfMan of Light: /* Scary or what: Paul and Brandon */ new section

User:WolfMan of Light

2009-02-21T15:59:09Z

WolfMan of Light: /* Pokémon */

== Well about me ==

Truthfully I don't know what to write here but here goes anyway. I am 20 years old now having turned 20 in August and am just out of college and am now looking for a job doing who knows what.

== Pokémon ==

I have been watching Pokémon since it first started. When I first seen it I wasn't too sure and so I didn't begin watching until about episode 20 and even then I can remember Ash and Meowth's old voices, talk about changes.

I think some of my favorite episodes are ones that feature Ash's Charizard especially when it didn't listen to him but I loved it when he began to listen also. The one Pokémon that I can't seem to stand is Jynx, who on earth thought of that thing Satoshi Tajiri seemed to be having a bad day when he thought of that.

I think that the original series is still by far the best, from the plot to the characters it still rocks (Ash, Misty and Brock). I thought that the Johto ones rocked also, some of the filler episodes were quite boring sometimes but the Silver Conference was the best and far better than the Indigo League and Hoenn League and will probably be better than the Sinnoh one also.

I didn't watch much of the Advanced Generation series at first because they took Misty out of it and to this day I still haven't forgiven them to this day. I started watching it at about half way through Advanced Challenge and then watched all the episodes right up to Advanced Battle. The Music on the Advanced Season was kind of slow and bad for me but it got much better for Advanced Challenge and Advanced Battle. Although compared to Johto it wasn't quite as good. For the line up changes in the season I was sort of glad to see that they brought in a new girl but I was also very biased with anger toward May with her being Misty's replacement. The bigest annoyance to me in the whole three seasons was defo Max. I mean what a brat ever since he first appeared I was hoping he would leave suddenly and never return in one episode and I am glad he left in Diamond and Pearl. Brock's return was very welcome to me and I am always glad to see him alongside Ash but honestly what was wrong with both he and Ash's attire.

When it came to the Battle Frontier I was shocked to discover that the voices had changed (more on this below). The music had also shocked to discover that the music theme had shortened by almost half (although it was still a good song and one of the better ones). As Diamond and Pearl came in I was still sore by the new voices and to be fair this may have came into my judgement about the season. I thought that the music was pretty bad for Diamond and Pearl but for Battle Dimension I think they have hit an all time low with it and that combined with the new voices means that I won't be watching Battle Dimension for a very long time. In regards to the new line up change I am glad that they finally ditched Max and May, although May did not annoy me as much Max annoyed the life out of me and I just wanted to strangle him sometimes. Dawn was an excallent addition especially with some of her early moments of blunder, reminds me of Ash in his early days. Ash's rival Paul reminds me of a more agressive version of Gary and he will defo have some good moments in the season as it goes on. I think that the change in Ash's attire from the Advanced seasons is a welcome change, the darker colors really suit him.

As for the PUSA dub voice changes I honestly think it was a very bad choice to change the actors so very late into the game. Pokémon should have stuck with Veronica, Maddie, Rachel, Eric and the rest of the gang. This is of course just my opinion but let me go further. I have never seen the Mirage special and to be honest from what I have heard I am in no hurry to anymore. I have also tried to give the new voice actors a good chance but they just fail to grab my attention as the 4Kids ones did and even though I do still watch the season (although for how long with the Battle Dimension music I don't know).

More recently I don't know what has come over me. I still support the original voice actors but I think I am going to give my support to the new voice actors now. Sarah and the rest of the gang are doing a great job and it will continue to get better. This is strange for me considering I was fighting against the whole change over thing.

== My Tags ==

Talk:Ash's Staraptor

2009-02-21T15:56:26Z

WolfMan of Light: /* Evolution */

It used Gust, and that is it. We could say that Gust was really supposed to be Defog or whatever. We could say ANYTHING, because this error was present in the original version as well. Keep it plz. D: [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 18:03, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I just watched One Big Happiny Family, and this time Ash told Staravia to do Whirlwind. [[Image:Ani471MS.gif]][[User:Pokemaniac102|'''Poke''''''maniac''''''102''']] 16:25, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I watched [[DP055|Throwing the Track Switch]] this morning and I believe Ash said Gust!--[[User:Kuki]]

==Staravia's "Wing Attack"==
Couldn't Staravia's Wing Attack be Steel Wing cause it's wings glow white when it uses it.

:No, Ash tells Staravia to use Wing Attack, not Steel Wing. --{{Ani|155}}{{Ani|476}}'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Sandbox|2]]'''{{Ani|473}}[[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 11:57, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
::Well I kow that, but the english dub could have gotten it wrong.
:::Ash says Wing Attack in the Japanese version too... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 22:08, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

== Protection? ==

Yeah, I saw Staraptor in DP066's preview... so I'm wodering, would it be a good idea to protect this ''and'' DP066 until next week just in case? Even though we see no "whoo, white glow on Staravia" like before with Aipom... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 22:26, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
:Well it was also rumored that Paul was batteling with a Honchcrow, so maybe his Murkrow evolved with Staravia. I say that both pages should be protected. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 23:47, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
::Ash's Staravia is STILL Staravia. Turns out that Staraptor is Reiji's Staraptor. [[User:Ej92|Ej92]] 12:12, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Please tell us more about DP066.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 12:18, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

==New Attack?==
The Staraptor shown in the preview shows Staraptor coming out of a blue aura like light. That could mean it learns {{m|Brave Bird}} or {{m|Close Combat}}. What do you think?
:Can you get me a link to the preview off Youtube or something? --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 11:50, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah here it is. You'll see it at 00:21 or 22 http://youtube.com/watch?v=vOnompLPwlU
:If it know's Close Combat, it defiently belongs to Maylene....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 22:18, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
::How's that prove anything? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 23:33, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Well I was just saying that if it knows a Fighting move, it probably belongs to Maylene.....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 00:07, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
::::That's like thinking Buneary once was Candice's because it knows Ice Beam... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 00:42, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::No, I'm just saying that since there's a Staraptor in the picture and we don't know whose it is, I'm just making an {probably incorrect) assumption. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 02:41, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

::::::All Staraptor can learn close combat......-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 05:20, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Im pretty sure it was Brave Bird, because Paul's older brother had a Staraptor that used the same move. He probably helped Ash learn it just like the famous trainer in Hoenn who taught Ash's Swellow aerial ace.

==Staravia has NOT evolved in DP066==
The Staraptor in DP066 turns out to be Reiji's [[User:Ej92|Ej92]] 12:00, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, however it seems that Ash wants Reiji to help him teach his Staravia Brave Bird.
Staravia has will evolved someday because each of Ash's flying-types have evolve to its last stage, and there will be no reason for Staravia to be any different. [[User:Kikibabygirl28|Kikibabygirl28]] 19:21, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== Real personality? WTF? ==

"*Staravia has become quite popular for being the first bird Pokémon to have a real personality, having shown quirky and surprising behaviour on more than one occasion."

I erased it.
This bird has a personality? I don't think so. Personal opinion doesn't count here. {{ani|277}}[[User:Greysky|'''''Grey''''']][[User talk:Greysky|'''''sky''''']]{{ani|135}} 00:34, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah but when Ash said he wasn't going to use Staravia in his gim battle it jumped up with a shocked look and began to cry.
:Okay...so Pidgeot's desire to protect the clan isn't a personality??? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:47 29 Jun 2008'''''

== Gender ==

Shouldn't it be listed as "unknown" because it's not 100% confirmed ([[User:GT4GTR|--●[[User:GT4GTR|'''GT4GTR''']] [[User talk:GT4GTR|''/ talk /'']]]] 11:40, 9 April 2008 (UTC))

Yes it should...{{ani|448}}[[User:Crystallucario|'''''Crystal''''']] [[User talk:Crystallucario|'''''Lucario''''']]{{ani|448}} 12:03, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
:But Staravia have gander differences, therefore we can assume it's gender. Big Spot = Male; Little Spot = Female... [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 13:08, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

i concur! [[User:Kpokefan|'''K''']][[User talk:Kpokefan|'''P''']][[User:Kpokefan/Missions|'''F''']] 18:39, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

:Well, if we took the gender differences into account, then it's safe to say that [[Dawn's Pachirisu]] is male. The gender differences on {{p|Pachirisu}} is on the head stripes, and Dawn's Pachirisu's stripes are consistent with those of male Pachirisu.

:Of course, this would probably anger the fans who believe the outfits Dawn's Pachirisu wore in [[DP061]] is clear proof of it being female. As far as we know, that outfit is Dawn's preference, not Pachirisu's. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 20:15, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
::Well the maid outfits weren't Ash, Turtwig, and Pikachu's preferences... They seemed pretty embarrassed. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:12, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

In dp03 ash says "this is Starly, he helped me find you".--[[User:David aipom|Davidaipom]] 11:40, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
:That's in the dub. I can NEVER understand why in the original, -kun can mean either gender...'''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:49 29 Jun 2008'''''

I am currently watching [[DP003|When Pokémon Worlds Collide]]. n the scene where Ash and Pikachu clib through the wreckage, aipom dances with pikachu and ash says:

"This Is Starly, He's My New Pokémon" I 100% sure becuase I thought this the last time i seen it.--[[User:David aipom|Davidaipom]] 13:47, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Regarding the most recent Episode, DP103, Staravia like falls in love with a robot Staravia that is undoubtedly female seeing how it has a bow in it's hair. Is this not sufficient enough to claim it male?
:A bow is definatly mot enough information. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:45, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
::True, but its trainer saying its gender is un-deniable proof. [[user:chocolate|Cho]][[user talk:chocolate|col]][[special:contributions/chocolate|ate]] 23:46, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Not really, since most characters refer to their Pokémon as a "he". Notably Ash with about 90 percent of his. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:47, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
::::But that was in the '''dub''' only. It was never stated in the original. Similar to Buneary. Therefore we need a disclaimer. And they don't say "he" 90% of the time. They say "it" mostly.--[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:49, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Except, I just checked it. Ash says nothing about gender or anything that implies it: "Pikachu, you're okay! Right, you haven't met yet. I want you to meet Starly, who's my very first Pokémon buddy from Sinnoh and who helped me find ya." That has no male inclination what-so-ever. Gender not confirmed. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:51, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::Well then there ya go. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:58, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Ok, so with [[DP103]] airing, is it safe to say that Staravia is male?--[[User:Boywonder01|'''Boy''']][[User talk:Boywonder01|'''wonder''']][[Special:Contributions/Boywonder01|'''01''']] 08:01, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

It's confirmed as Male (Dub-Only)--[[User:David aipom|''デビッド Aipom '']] [[User talk:David aipom|(Speaks To Me):] 秘密の通信 ]] 10:56, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

== English VA? ==

I've been trying to figure out Staravia's english VA for a while now. The only thing known conclusively is that it's the same person who voiced Skarmory in the first Pokemon Mystery Dungeon special. I was the one who said it was Emily Jenness (Dawn's VA), only because of the process of elimination of the main cast; it definately wasn't Kayzie Rogers (Jamie Peacock), and Sarah Natochenny had said she'd only voiced Medicham and baby Kangaskahn. However, when speaking with Jenness through her MySpace, she said she hadn't played Skarmory or Staravia, either. Now recently, the 11th season credits for "Tears for Fears" included additional VAs such as Kayzie Rogers (Wobbuffet/Mime Jr.) and Emily Williams (Jenny/Zoey), even though no other humans besides the main group and Paul were in that episode. This may indicate that Williams was voicing one of the Pokemon, and the only one unaccounted for is Staravia. I don't think either of her normal characters appear in the next episode with Staravia, either, so if she's still there, it may be as good evidence as anything of her involvement. As for why she wasn't credited in season 10, it could be they just didn't bother with crediting Pokemon voices, as it was mostly the main cast and original JPN voices providing them.

Long story short, I think Emily Williams is the only reasonably possible person who could be voicing Staravia. Is it okay if I change it?
[[User:Shift|Shift]] 00:12, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
:Only one problem, William's voice sounds nothing like Staravia's. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:29, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I think [[Michele Knotz]] might be voicing Staravia because as Starly it sounded like Torchic/Piplup [[User:Livinlarge18|Livinlarge18]] 21:13, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
::Can you ask her who ''did'' play Staravia? I know she may not answer, but it's worth a try. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 15:06, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::Her website still is under construction and I'm not starting a voice 123 profile [[User:Livinlarge18|Livinlarge18]] 02:36, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I think it's gotta be Knotz; in "Luxray Vision", the voice Jessie put on in the cop disguise seemed ver similar, and had the same kind of warble as Staravia and the Skarmory from the MD special. Whoever edited it in, good on ya! [[User:Shift|Shift]] 06:41, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks! Funny thing is, I think I did put its voice actress as Michele Knotz after DP002 aired but someone changed it to Emily Jenness. Turns out I was right. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:46, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
::Actually I put in [[Michele Knotz]] let me tell you someone should have never changed it since its voice as Starly sounds similar to [[Nurse Joy's Chansey]],[[Dawn's Piplup]] and [[Torchic]] [[User:Livinlarge18|Livinlarge18]] 15:41, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

== do this on the trivia ==

Ash's method of training Starly to learn Aerial Ace is almost the same as when he taught it to Swellow.[[User:Lindsayoris15|Lindsayoris15]] 04:36, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Since when did Ash teach Starly/Staravia Aerial Ace? I'm sure it wasn't in any of the episodes.. I thought it had just learned it w/o teaching. - [[User:SpontaneousCombusken|spontaneous'''Combusken''']] 05:02, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::No. He was teaching it how to do in in [[DP013]]. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:05, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:::I better go rewatch that episode. =/ '''Edit:''' I guess it's similar, but then Starly didn't have the rope or the target... Well, it does have a target, but not one to hit. Bleh. I guess you could add that... Why ask here, is the page protected? - [[User:SpontaneousCombusken|spontaneous'''Combusken''']] 05:06, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

==Just Like to say==

Nice new Picture!Its Much Better--[[User:David aipom|Davidaipom]] 10:59, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

==Contradiction==

It says in the move list that Gust is "dub only" but in the trivia it says it was also present in the original.--[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 18:36, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

== Final warning ==

If one more person puts "Male" in the box, it's getting protected. No one said he so it's unconfirmed. The spot on its head changes sizes in different scenes so it's too hard to determine. And the female robot Staravia doesn't mean anything either. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:27, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:Uh, it kinda does, otherwise, Charizard is a lesbian again along with Croagunk. These pages are precedents, if Staravia falling in love with a fairly obviously female Staravia, isn't it safe to call it a him? [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 01:05, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
:: Not to mention the dot on the robotic Staravia's head is obviously smaller than Ash's Staravia. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 08:05, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
::: He's right, watching that scene it is clear as day that Staravia's dot is larger than the robot's. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 19:48, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
:::: Really? Cause it's not clear to me. There dots looked the same. If you notice, Staravia's spot changes throughout the episode. It can't be determined. End of discussion. What if Charizard and Staravia are female? And don't give me "that wouldn't happen in a kids show" crap. Japanese culture is different from ours. Sailor Moon was a children's cartoon, yet it had two lesbian Sailor Soldiers. It could happen, though admittedly, the probability is extremely low. It stays unknown until someone says "he". --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:17, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Just pointing out, and i dont know if anime follows game logic, but lets all asume the nice, Christian answer that with "breeding" comes love. Therefore If it falls in love, by game logic, its a member of the opposite gender recieving the love.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::::::That may be. But we still have to go with the benefit-of-the-doubt. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:25, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::But has game logic been proven wrong? Has their been a gay or lesbian character proved Gay or Lesbian? Isnt it safe to assume based off the fact that they still havent called a character gay or straight they wont include it, like levels in anime?[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:Sorry to do this but...
http://www.filb.de/content/anime/dp103/113.jpg
http://www.filb.de/content/anime/dp103/157.jpg
http://www.filb.de/content/anime/dp103/313.jpg
Where in those pictures are the dots the same size?--[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 05:28, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

I guess those pictures prove that Staravia is definately male. [[User:Dilophosaurus Rex|Dilophosaurus Rex]] 12:17, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Why does everything have to be spelled out via dialouge? Seriously isn't enough that this robot Staravia has a ribbon, and a small dot compared to Ash's Staravia? I mean obviously the animators didn't nilly willy make a female robot Staravia, just to let the audience members assume one way or the other. They did it to definately prove something the correct way. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 05:57, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:That looks more like an artificial Sweet Scent. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 20:00, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

: ..Sorry for posting on an almost 2 months old topic,but maybe it should be put as Male Dub Only,like some of the other Pokemon. People do say Ash called it a "he" in the dub [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 01:44, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

== Evolution ==

I was just looking at it and PokeRinger Contests have appeared back in the anime. If I remember right Swellow evolved from Taillow in the last episode and well I was thinking it might be possible that Staravia is going to do the same.[[User:WolfMan of Light|De Wolfy is here]] 15:56, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Ash's Staraptor

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== Title translation ==
I'd like to note that 超克の時空 means the Space-Time of Overcoming/Conquering and not the other way around. Even if it doesn't make much sense, this means that "To the Conquering of Space-Time" is wrong and Serebii.net's "Towards The Overcome's Time Space" is the only English translation that seems correct with everyone else seemingly believing PokéBeach.
I think we need to correct this before people memorize the incorrect translation that we apparently see almost everywhere.
As for whether "overcoming" or "conquering", to me "overcoming" sounds more accurate, but I can't say for sure as I'm not a native English speaker. It should be considered that the official movie website has an explanation for the word which says that it means "to overcome difficulties/pain": http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/chokoku/
--[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 13:19, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

:Japanese is amazing eh? Considering ''everyone'' (including Serebii) has changed it to "To the Conquering of Space-Time" (and remember, the previous translation we had was "Towards Overcoming the Space-Time Void") there's either, A: a really bad translation going around, or B: People are all getting this from one source, i.e. the movie poster. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 13:53, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

::I don't see where you read "To the Conquering of Space-Time" on Serebii.net - I clearly read "Towards The Overcome's Time Space" there. Are you trying to tell us that the poster has an English version of the title? If so, would you kindly point out where exactly I can see this on the poster?! --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 15:02, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:::What I meant was that most people over there are refering to it as such and Serebii himself has said that he is busy for the holidays, so it hasn't been changed yet. This universal translation; just accept it, its tenative anyway, we get the real title in Jan. And also, I can't read a word of Japanese, but if ''hundreds'' of fans can agree on a title, that says something. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 16:22, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

::::I would be willing to accept it as a universal translation, but your reasoning to call it that is pretty flawed. The number of people who can really tell whether the translation is accurate is by far less than "hundreds", most just take what is written and take it as confirmed as long as it isn't corrected. And if you say yourself that you can't read Japanese, why are you taking part in this discussion then? I mean, I don't mind your input, but you don't seem to belong to the people who can validate a translation either. It also isn't as tenative as you seem to think. Going by how Japanese movie titles have been in previous years, the title (and the logo) will be almost the same in its final version, only having a Pokémon name added to it - most likely it will be something like "超克の時空へアルセウス". And that's why we need to work out a more accurate translation as the order of words/kanji in the title can't just be a mistake, or at least it's not safe at all to assume so. Now if nobody else is interested in discussing this, I assume I shouldn't just go about changing the article and moving it. I'd be glad if someone with more knowledge of Japanese could contribute to this discussion. --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 11:28, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

:::::I may not speak Japanese, but the translation Babel Fish (a very popular translation site) gives is "To the Conquering of Space-Time". Of course Babel Fish doesn't always translate well. [[User:Arceus is the Best|Arceus is the Best]] 23:20, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't like babelfish's translations, and agree with nYoo's point that "To the Conquering of Space-Time" is inaccurate, but the truth is the majority always wins. Most English-speaking Pokémon fans know this movie as "To the Conquering of Space-Time", and it would just be confusing to try and find a better translation, especially with the official one so close. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 11:45, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

== Arceus ==

I'll clear one thing up before I kick off the main point of the message: I fully believe that a movie featuring Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, and Spear Pillar will feature Arceus. HOWEVER, in the blurb for PikaProj09 on the movie list article (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_movie) it is stated that the movie is "expected to feature Arceus." By whom? By whomever happened to write that sentence. I don't think that should be there until there is some actual proof beyond opinion. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]]
:Opinion... of 90% of the fandom. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:56, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Yes, but does that even matter? No doubt we will have it confirmed soon, we can readd it then. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 03:20, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
:Here is a photo that could help with proving Arceus is in the movie. The pic is from pokebeach but they only outlined part of what seems to be part of the "pointed ring" that is showed in the light.I circled the other parts. Looking at it from different angles, sometimes I think i can see its ears and a small part of its head. But that's what i think i saw so i didn't circle it. You can see it very well in the first pic. Since many people say that arceus is in the movie, I'd say this is very good proof.
[[Image:Arceus-comparison.jpg]]

Sorry it is so small as soon as I enlarge it, I will upload it.

Edit:
OK, so here is the enlarged pic, I know the arceus parts are faded, but you can still see the major parts.
[[Image:Arceus-comparison 2.jpg]]

Once I get the trailer, I will be able to upload a MUCH better and clearer picture.
[[User:Pikachugal|Pikachugal]] 02:22, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

:Calm down, friend. Arceus in this movie is too obvius. But IT IS UNCONFIRMED. We just have to wait for an official source --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]], <sc>[[User talk:Nick.|something to say?]]</sc> 02:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

I just saw the new trailer on the japanese website and i am absolutely entranced by the mysterious golden blur that appears for only like half a second in the middle of the video. [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Morgil/MysteriousGoldenBlur1.jpg] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Morgil/MysteriousGoldenBlur2.jpg] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Morgil/MysteriousGoldenBlur3.jpg] [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 20:56, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

==Naming==
You know, since we don't go moving around every episode to its English title... why don't we move all of the movies to Pikachu Project (year)? Anyone think it'd be a good idea? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:56, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

:I dunno, in my opinion it's a bad idea
:does that mean we change all the Pokémon to their national dex number too?----[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamatecharizard]] 22:46, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

== Think about it...Makes sense! ==

"''The producers went to Greece in August, 2008; this confirms the basis for the movie's setting.''"
And looking at the above posts about Arceus. Now, I know a little about Myths and things, and remember how many '''gods''' they had in Greece, back in days far gone? Anyone else think that setting a movie in a place were they were once many ''Mythological Gods'' would be a good place for the so called "''God Pokémon''"? C: Just a theory. [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]]| サソデイ 09:56, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

:Still doesn't make it official. Even if the odds point to Arceus being in the movie, we're waiting until Arceus is actually confirmed to appear in the movie to add that information. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:23, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
::Ah, I said it was 'just a theory' D: I never said it was official! [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]]| サソデイ 16:48, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:Then why does this page (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_movie) still talk about Arceus? May I please remove that? [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 03:22, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Bulbapedia is not for theories. And yes, that thing about Arceus should be removed. --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]], <sc>[[User talk:Nick.|something to say?]] </sc> 03:30, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

== New Pokemon Speculation. ==

Ok, Guys, I just want to say that, those of you still maintaining the site, I'll keep in the part on the Gen V Pokémon reveal speculation until December the 15th, only then, can we determine whether it should be kept in (As most of the info for the movie will be unveiled on that date.), if there is no mention of any Pokémon belonging to the new generation (not even showing a sihlouette, for that matter) then we must remove that tidbit. Got it? good. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 19:49, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

:didn't seribii say it was going to be tommorow? [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 20:39, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
::Strange... the article says that it's December 15th, Oh well... [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 20:58, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
:The default for any speculation is to take it out no matter how much of the fandom believes it, not to leave it an article just because we can't disprove it. You also can't disprove that Nintendo may reveal a Gen VI Pokémon on the same day, but since we have no proof we don't state it. I'm going to delete whatever it is you're talking about unless you can change my mind. [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 20:46, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
:: Can someone upload a picture of the unkown Pokémon siloette from DP104? <sc>I think thats the right Episode </sc> [[User:ShinyPikachu|ShinyPika <3 ALS]] 22:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
: Here are two pics of the electric type. One of them i added an arrow and circle to the part of the pokemon that was showing. I think these are good pics for the page. The original photo is from pokebeach.
[[Image:5th_generation_pokemon.jpg]] [[Image:5th_generation_pokemon_2.jpg]]

[[User:Pikachugal|Pikachugal]] 01:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

==is it just me?==

can anyone see the other pictures here? [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 20:39, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

:What images? If you're referring to the two links above, they were deleted for being copyright violations since they were stolen from [[Pokébeach]], one of them altered. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:28, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

== Eclipse ==

Check it out, the three legendary titans are battling during a total solar eclipse. I'll leave it to others to point out signifigance but it is noteworthy. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 23:18, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
:seeing how time and space are probably going to get ripped a new one in this movie that eclipse would be fitting [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 20:48, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
::Oh gawd if anyone makes a "Twilight" reference you will get aura sphered!!![[User:Rucario64|Rucario]][[User Talk:Rucario64|64]] 18:17, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:::wait I just looked on wikipedia and apparantly there's a solar eclipse around the time of it's release [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]]
::::Four days after. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:37, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Japan's too far north to see anything other than a partial eclipse, and the one featured in the movie is a total eclipse. Gonna have to go with a coincidence on this one. {{wp|Solar eclipse of July 22, 2009}}.--- Aura-Knight 15:46, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

== Posters ==

I have the posters needed for this article. And can someone look at the website? They have the specific reading for the kanji now.

<gallery>
Image:Movie12 Poster.jpg|''Toward Overcoming the Space-Time Void'' movie poster
Image:Promo PokemonMovie12.JPG|''Pikachu the Movie'' poster
</gallery>

:Uhm, that Pichu clearly has two ears. One is just partially obscured by Pikachu's head. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 18:06, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::who said anything to the contrary? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 18:15, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::I dunno, I think I saw something on the forums where people were saying it only had one ear or something...but I could have been half-asleep and misreading everything, it's happened before, haha. Anyway, another point that nobody seems to have pointed out yet, the Pichu is on the poster for the Pikachu short, not the movie itself, so it's useless to speculate about what role it might have in the movie. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 18:23, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::You make a good point there... there is no actual confirmation that the Pichu is the Pokémon that was hidden. {{tt|Gen V. is back on!|Perhaps}} [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 18:36, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, I didn't quite say that... There's an overwhelming amount of evidence that the Pichu was indeed the hidden Pokémon, although why they'd want to make a Pichu a "surprise" is beyond me... [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 18:48, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Look at its eyes. They're the same brown as {{tt|another Pokémon on that poster|speculation, speculation...}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:58, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Wow I can't belive that they might just give Pikachu a relative!!! Awsome I can't wait for more info! [[User:Rucario64|Rucario]][[User Talk:Rucario64|64]] 18:28, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

== Nintendo Owned Everyone (Including Me) ==
[[User:LordArceus/"5th Gen"|Nintendo is amazing.]] {{unsigned|LordArceus}}
:Whoops. [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 17:40, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::I must say, they're total jerks for that. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:06, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

== Percent chance of Galactic, importantly Cyrus, appearing? ==

100%? Less? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:31, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:I don't know if they are going to appear in the movie since something like this hasn't happened since the first movie. I could be wrong anyway. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 21:35, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::Considering the fact that Galactic has already appeared in the series and the writers seem to be giving them more screen time/development than most previous teams (relative to their importance in the game, I mean), I feel it's at least worth a second thought that Cyrus will probably appear later in the series instead of in this movie; either that, or the writers are finally going to abandon their unspoken policy of keeping movie canon (mostly) separate from series canon. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 21:44, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::They've got the Spear Key, Adamant and Lustrous Orbs. Movie 12 obviously takes place in an area inspired by Greece (Spear Pillar) and features Arceus. They know we were disappointed in the hour special they laid out for Groudon and Kyogre, so they want to remedy it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:08, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::::But usually stories like these culminate in the series not in a movie. Bar the first one, Movies and series are most of the time entirely disjoined. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 22:13, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::But like I said, the writers have been pretty ambitious this series--maybe they've decided to go ahead and tie a theatrical release directly to the show. I just think we need to weigh both possibilities equally and not assume that Cyrus will be in it just because the dragon trio will be (and possibly Arceus) until we get more information. Although, they could settle for a happy medium of sorts, something like having Cyrus appear in the movie but never in the series, and just have the Galactic admins make allusions to him in the series. I think it's pretty up-in-the-air right now; considering the fact that the previous two movies have involved members of the dragon trio without involving Cyrus, it's not like it would be impossible for them to pull off a movie featuring them and Arceus and not include Cyrus. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 22:27, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Did they appear in the first two? Survey says: Nope! The battle has nothing to do with Cyrus and his flunkies anyway [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 22:32, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::You know that Cyrus's debut wasn't till AFTER the movie premiered, right?- ''unsigned comment from [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:::::That's true...didn't consider that. But I still think it's possible for them to pull off a plot about the dragon trio and Arceus without him. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 22:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Meh, never stopped them before [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 22:47, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::That's highly likely to include Team Galactic and Cyrus, not to mention the fact that it can also boost tickets sales! -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 09:08, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::The only thing I can see that may boost ticket sales is the inevitable Arceus giveaway. Besides, Pokémon was unphased by going up against Studio Ghibli this year so it doesn't really need help on the popularity front.
:::::::::Team Magma were in six and while I can see them having that role, a plotline started in the series should conclude in the series. We'll probably be around the start of the league tournament by July anyway. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 09:42, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Darkrai popped back up in the show so why not Arceus. Then Cyrus could try to control it.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:24, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

== Can we please ==

Can we please put Piplup on the cast sheet? You know it's going to be there. And please don't give me the "unconfirmed" lecture. It was in the first two movies, is featured on the poster for this and the previous Pikachu movie. I get why you might not want it for the regular episodes but, come on now... There is really no good reason it wouldn't appear. Do you really think after all the writers have done with Piplup so far that there really going to make it skip a movie appearance? Or are you going to get all mad at me if I add it on the cast sheet? Face it, Piplup IS the new Togepi. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 09:59, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind. Found out officially that it's in the movie. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 10:06, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:It's better than Togepi, believe me. At least it does something. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:13, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

maybe theres something hint on there maybe but its looks like similat to zelda twiligth princess.......--[[User:Bakunawa|Bakunawa]] 10:16, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

You know, even IF I did want it to appear in the episodes, we still should wait for more information in regards to whether Piplup is actually appearing or not. For all we know, the poster could have just misled us. It's not like they haven't done that before [cough, cough, cough, cough, [[Palkia (anime)|Palkia]], [[Giratina and the Sky Warrior|Sky Warrior]] poster cough, cough, cough, cough] [cough, cough, cough, cough, cough, cough, [[Brock's Marshtomp|Mudkip]] and [[Ash's Sceptile|Treecko]] in [[Jirachi: Wish Maker|Jirachi poster]] cough, cough, cough, cough, cough, cough]. I won't argue that it should be erased, since, as you said, it's officially confirmed. However, for episodes, we DEFINITELY need to wait until the the previews at least before we add in Piplup. I mean, should we add in Wobbuffet in every single pokemon episode that's upcoming just because it appears in a lot of the episodes? Because that would be the same thing. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 20:50, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:I was referring to the trailer, not the poster. Piplup was in the trailer. And Wobbuffet hasn't been in the anime for nearly 50 episodes straight without an absence. Piplup has. It's not just the number of episodes its appeared in. It's the consistency. Wobbuffet is in a lot of episodes but will be absent once every 10 or 15 episodes. Each week that passes, Piplup gets confirmed for yet another episode and some still wanna believe that its all of a sudden not going to appear next week. Besides, Wobbuffet belongs to an antagonist who are not the absolute central point of the anime like the heroes are. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:22, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::Trailer is misleading too! Not every scene in the trailer are included in the movie, for instance, the Pidgeot in movie 10 trailer. I agree with Weedle.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 05:47, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::Meowth belonged to the Antagonists, as well, and yet that never stopped people from adding in his name before. I'm not saying that Piplup shouldn't be in any episodes, I'm actually more neutral to the debate. All I'm saying that it still needs more information. And I still don't see too much of a difference between Piplup appearing and Wobbuffet appearing. I mean, at least with Pikachu, Meowth, and up until "A Togepi Mirage", Togepi, they weren't in pokeballs, so their appearances were definitely a given. Piplup, no matter how many appearances it's made in a way similar to Pikachu and Meowth, is still a pokeball pokemon that makes multiple appearances in episodes, not unlike Wobbuffet, in one sense. Unlike Piplup, Wobbuffet still doesn't get inserted into the cast pokemon of the episode [or rather, people aren't trying to insert it in.]. Basically, what I'm saying is that we shouldn't be too hasty to add in Piplup before we have undeniable proof that it's in. I mean, I don't add in Wobbuffet to the pokemon appearing in every upcoming episode, and you don't either, so what makes Piplup any different? [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 22:22, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

:::Okay... appearently you haven't read anything I said to why Piplup should be treated different than Wobbuffet. <big><big>NEARLY 50 EPISODES STRAIGHT WITHOUT AN ABSCENCE.</big></big> That's why Piplup should be added in automatically. It be different if Piplup was absent every few episodes during this span but it wasn't. Wobbuffet has never appeared for 50 episodes without an absence. As for Meowth, he's an antagonist in himself. He really doesn't belong to anyone like Wobbuffet does. And he's actually appeared in every episode. Not like Wobbuffet. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:53, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

== Merchandise ==

Any way we can work this into the article, other than saying "Something something, featuring Monferno, Bronzong, Staraptor, and Heatran, prompting fan speculation that [[Ash]]'s {{AP|Chimchar}} and {{AP|Staravia}} will evolve and Brock/Dawn will capture a Bronzong something something Heatran's role." --- Aura-Knight 22:24, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

:......I would at least suspect the character of the movie to have a Bronzong.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 07:59, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

== Pichu ==

On the page, it says "a Pichu with spiked ears" whereas everywhere else, it says "notched ear" I know it's a bit nit-picky but this does seem like the more official term.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 23:54, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
:More official? Both terms are '''[[fanon]]'''! -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 05:40, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:The former or the latter of which you said? --[[User:Bulbapedian|Bulbapedian]] - [[User talk:Bulbapedian|Talk]] 23:57, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
::Did. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 00:04, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

== Heartran ==

serebii.net said Heatran involve this thing 12 movie...........--[[User:Bakunawa|Bakunawa]] 06:53, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:......Here you're in the best Pokémon Encyclopedia '''ever'''! Serebii is a site full of speculation! -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 07:57, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:I'm not to sure but I guess that Serebii's information doesn't qualify as sure evidence here.--'''[[User:Diby|Di]][[User talk:Diby|b]][[Special:Contributions/Diby|y]]''' 06:55, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

I have searched for the corocoro issue of jan 19 but the content of that issue is about megaman and the revivl of one of its series, so was the info date wrong?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 15:20, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== World Hobbo Fair ==
shouldn't the legendary pokemon have been revealed on the 19th? if it was, why doesn't Bulbanews have the info.? [[User:Vik0z0z|Vik0z0z]] 21:22, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
:There wasn't anything revealed at the fair. It would have been up if it was. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 21:27, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I think I have an explanation for that, the world hobby fair is moving around in different cities like tokyo and nagua and others, so the news will be released at the world hobby fair but with an unknown date and city.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:34, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

== Arceus and what it Means? ==

I was just looking at BulbaNews (how do you say it) and I seen that Arceus will be appearing in To the Conquering of Space-Time. I was just wondering a couple of things and I would like to know what you all think also. First What will Arceus be doing in the movie, do you think he might have a small cameo where it just shows you how the Pokemon Universe was created or something much bigger. Also where do you think the battlefield will be this time, so far with Palkia and Dialga and later Giratina the battles have been in two different dimensions. How do you think that Arceus will affect this. Also I was just wondering do you think this is some kind of Apocalypse of Pokemon when the very god more or less shows himself. [[User:WolfMan of Light|De Wolfy is here]] 09:21, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Talk:M12/Archive 1

2009-01-23T09:21:25Z

WolfMan of Light: /* Arceus and what it Means? */ new section

EP131

2009-01-19T13:44:30Z

WolfMan of Light: /* Major events */

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title_en=Fighting Flyer with Fire |
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'''Fighting Flyer with Fire''' (Japanese: '''キキョウジム！おおぞらのたたかい!!''' ''{{tt|Kikyō|Violet}} Gym! Sky Battle!'') is the 131st episode of the {{g|anime}}. It was first broadcast in Japan on January 20, 2000 and in the United States on December 16, 2000, as part of the [[The Johto Journeys|Pokémon: The Johto Journeys]] season.

After the [[Violet City]] [[Gym Leader]] [[Falkner]] foils one of [[Team Rocket]]'s schemes to steal {{AP|Pikachu}}, {{Ash}} decides to {{pkmn|battle}} him for a {{Badge|Zephyr}}.
{{spoilers}}
== Synopsis ==
{{Ash}}, [[Misty]], and [[Brock]] finally reach the [[Violet City]] Gym, and Ash is anxious to get his first [[Johto]] [[badge]]. But before they are able to go inside, [[Jessie]] and [[James]] appear in disguises. They say they are from the Pokémon Bureau and that they must inspect every Pokémon before anyone can enter the Gym. They take {{AP|Pikachu}} and remark that it's "buggy, bleary eyed, and blubbery". Then they run off with it. Soon afterwards, they're floating away in their balloon while revealing their real identity and holding Pikachu in an electric-proof glass case.

Ash sends out {{AP|Heracross}} to save Pikachu, but {{MTR}} drops a jar of sap to distract Heracross. Then, Ash and friends notice there is someone hand-gliding next to Team Rocket's balloon. Then, the hand-glider signals for his {{p|Hoothoot}} to take Pikachu. While the hand-glider is trying to land, Jessie calls for {{TP|Jessie|Arbok}} to use {{m|Poison Sting}} to poke holes in his sail. Next the hand-glider sends out his {{p|Pidgeot}} to save him from falling. Then he has his Pidgeot poke a hole in their balloon to send them flying away.

After Team Rocket has blasted off, the hand-glider finally lands and gives Pikachu back to Ash. Misty remarks about how fast his Pidgeot is, and Ash is reminded of his own {{AP|Pidgeot}} and that one day he'll see it again. The hand-glider mentions about how much he loves riding on {{t|Flying}} Pokémon and that they are his favorite type. Brock asks why he loves them so much, to which he responds that it's because he's always wanted to fly through the sky since he was a little boy. Then he says he learned how to hand-glide in order to understand his Pokémon better. He also mentions how mad he gets when people always say that Flying Pokémon stand no chance against {{t|Electric}} Pokémon. Misty quickly agrees with him, but instead with the sense of {{t|Water}} Pokémon. Finally, Ash introduces himself, and the hand-glider introduces himself as [[Falkner]] and that he is the gym leader.

Once, they are inside the gym, they go up to the roof where there is a stadium set up for Ash and Falkner to battle. They are told that they can use three Pokémon each. Once the match begins, Falkner starts with Hoothoot, and Ash decides to start with {{AP|Chikorita}}. Falkner scolds Ash for sending out a Pokémon that is weak to Flying Pokémon. Ash defends himself by saying that not everyone should judge by type. Chikorita starts out with a {{m|Vine Whip}}, but Hoothoot dodges it by {{m|Fly}}ing into the sky. Chikorita still tries hitting Hoothoot with a Vine Whip, but Hoothoot still dodges and attacks Chikorita with {{m|Peck}}. Chikorita uses {{m|Razor Leaf}}, but Hoothoot dodges and takes down Chikorita with {{m|Tackle}}.

Ash decides to use Pikachu next. Pikachu uses {{m|Agility}} in order to avoid getting tackled. Hoothoot is taken down by a {{m|Thunderbolt}} and finished off by a {{m|Quick Attack}}. Falkner then sends out his {{p|Dodrio}} and mentions that no challenger has ever defeated it. Both Pikachu and Dodrio start off the match by using Agility. Although Pikachu tries using Thunderbolt, Dodrio dodges it by jumping up high. Dodrio then attacks Pikachu with {{m|Fury Attack}} and {{m|Drill Peck}}. While Dodrio is using {{m|Tri Attack}}, Pikachu dodges and takes it down with {{m|Thunder}}. Dodrio is cheered on to get up, but it ultimately faints.

Falkner sends out his last Pokémon, which is Pidgeot. Pikachu is really tired by now, and Ash is told by Misty and Brock to give it a rest. Ash asks Pikachu if it wants to take a break, but Pikachu is willing to fight. Pikachu starts it off with a Thunderbolt, but Pidgeot easily dodges it by flying. Pidgeot then takes down Pikachu with a {{m|Whirlwind}}. Ash then sends out {{AP|Charizard}} to battle. Both Charizard and Pidgeot are told to fly into the air, then Ash tells Charizard to use {{m|Flamethrower}}, but Pidgeot dodges. Charizard consistently uses Flamethrower and Pidgeot uses Agility to get out of the way. Pidgeot then sends out a Whirlwind to hit Charizard with its own Flamethrower, sending it back onto the ground. Pidgeot starts using a {{m|Wing Attack}}, and Ash commands Charizard to fly, but it's wing is hurt. Charizard is hit straight on by Pidgeot's Wing Attack. Charizard is also hit with a Quick Attack, which leaves Ash wondering what he should do. Falkner tells him to forfeit, but Ash refuses to.

Charizard soon becomes strong enough to fly and dodges a Quick Attack. Pidgeot starts using Agility to appear behind Charizard and attack it with Quick Attack. This happens again, but Charizard doesn't give up. Charizard then flies behind Pidgeot, and before Pidgeot can attack, Charizard surrounds it with {{m|Fire Spin}}. Charizard then finishes off Pidgeot by using {{m|Seismic Toss}}. Although Pidgeot is cheered on to get up, it faints, which means that Ash has won the match against Falkner.

Falkner presents Ash with the {{Badge|Zephyr}}. Falkner has been inspired by Ash to work more and train harder. He also wishes Ash luck in the Johto league. Ash, Misty and Brock wave goodbye as they walk to the next gym in the next city.

The scene cuts off to Team Rocket, who are shown being pecked by a group of {{p|Spearow}} and {{p|Fearow}} in their deflated balloon.

== Major events ==
*{{Ash}} and [[Falkner]] have a 3 on 3 battle.
**Ash uses {{AP|Chikorita}}, {{AP|Pikachu}} and {{AP|Charizard}}.
***This is {{AP|Charizard's}} final gym battle for Ash until much later in the Battle Frontier.
**Falkner uses {{p|Hoothoot}}, {{p|Dodrio}} and {{TP|Falkner|Pidgeot}}.
***Falkner's Hoothoot knocks out Ash's Chikorita with Tackle.
***Ash's Pikachu knocks out Hoothoot with {{m|Agility}} followed by a {{m|Thunderbolt}} then {{m|Quick Attack}}.
***Pikachu then knocks out Falkner's Dodrio with {{m|Thunder}}.
***Falkner's Pidgeot knocks out Pikachu with {{m|Whirlwind}}.
***Ash's Charizard knocks out Pidgeot with {{m|Fire Spin}} then {{m|Seismic Toss}}.
***Ash defeats Falkner and earns his first [[Johto League]] [[Badge|Gym Badge]], the {{Badge|Zephyr}}.
=== Debuts ===
* [[Falkner]]

== Characters ==
=== Humans ===
* {{Ash}}
* [[Misty]]
* [[Brock]]
* [[Jessie]]
* [[James]]
* [[Falkner]]

=== Pokémon ===
[[Who's That Pokémon?]]: {{p|Marill}} (''US and international''), {{p|Pidgeot}} (''Japan'')
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OP|Ash|Pikachu}})
* {{p|Meowth}} ({{TRM}})
* {{p|Togepi}} ({{OP|Misty|Togepi}})
* {{p|Pidgeot}} ({{OP|Ash|Pidgeot}}; flashback)
* {{p|Charizard}} ({{OP|Ash|Charizard}})
* {{p|Heracross}} ({{OP|Ash|Heracross}})
* {{p|Chikorita}} ({{OP|Ash|Chikorita}})
* {{p|Arbok}} ({{OP|Jessie|Arbok}})
* {{p|Hoothoot}} ([[Falkner]]'s)
* {{p|Pidgeot}} ({{OP|Falkner|Pidgeot}})
* {{p|Dodrio}} ([[Falkner]]'s)
* {{p|Pidgey}} (flashback)
* {{p|Pidgeotto}} (flashback)
* {{p|Spearow}}
* {{p|Fearow}}

== Trivia ==
* This episode's dub title is a reference to the popular saying, "fight fire with fire".
* [[DP085|An episode]] from the {{series|Diamond & Pearl}} has a similar episode title to this one.

=== Errors ===
* Ash said that his {{AP|Pidgeot}} was protecting a flock of fellow Pidgeot, when it was actually protecting a flock of {{p|Pidgey}} and {{p|Pidgeotto}}.

=== Dub edits ===

==In other languages==
* French: '''{{tt|L'air contre le feu|Air counters fire}}'''
* Italian: '''{{tt|Un incontro importante|An important match}}'''
* Latin American Spanish: '''{{tt|¡Combatiendo al volador con fuego!|Fighting the flying with fire!}}'''
* Spanish: '''{{tt|Combatiendo al volador con fuego|Fighting the flying with fire}}'''

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AG034

2009-01-12T14:15:27Z

WolfMan of Light: /* Trivia */

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broadcast_us=May 22, 2004 |
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'''Having a Wailord of a Time''' (Japanese: '''はじめてのポケモンで大パニック!!''' ''The Great Starter Pokémon Panic!!'') is the 34th episode of the {{series|Advanced Generation}}, and the 308th episode of the [[Pokémon anime]]. It was first broadcast in Japan on July 17, 2003 and in the United States on May 22, 2004.

While May trains Beautifly for the upcoming contest, she leaves Torchic with the others. Nurse Joy asks Ash and Max to look after the Starter Pokémon while waiting for the new Trainer to arrive. But when the Torchic runs off and evolves into a Combusken, will they be able to get away with having May's Torchic stand in its place? And which Starter will the girl choose?

{{spoilers}}

== Synopsis ==
{{Synopsis cleanup}}
The {{g|Contest}} is rapidly approaching, and May is training hard for it. She thinks about how she can't wait to battle Drew, and runs off to train with her Beautifly, leaving her Torchic with the others. Torchic feels left out and upset as it watches its trainer running off.

Ash, Brock, Max and all their Pokémon are eating when Max jumps up. He is annoyed because May keeps leaving Torchic alone; it seems like she doesn't care about Torchic anymore, only Beautifly. Ash explains that it's OK, Torchic will always be special to May because it was her first Pokémon. Max wants to know what Brock's first Pokémon was and Brock remembers back to his tenth birthday when he woke up and found an Onix leaning into his room with a red ribbon around its neck. He and his father (Flint) sat on Onix's head and watched the sunrise. Max imagines the Pokémon he will have when he becomes a Pokémon Trainer, thinking that his father could give him anything, even a Slakoth. In the imagination bubble, Slakoth falls on top of Max and squashes him.

Nurse Joy comes by on her way to do her rounds of the Pokémon, and Brock grabs her and insists on coming with her (even when she says she doesn't need help). Joy suggests that they all come along to check on the Pokémon. She sees Mudkip, Torchic and Treecko all eating, and is surprised at their great condition, telling the gang that there is a new trainer coming to the Pokémon Center to choose a Starter Pokémon. The gang follow Joy to another room, where Max is allowed to release the Pokémon from their Poké Balls. The Torchic is in a fighting mood; the Mudkip bursts into tears and is comforted by Brock's Mudkip, while the Treecko clasps its hands together and simpers (apparently a female, due to its interest in Ash's Treecko and the way it holds a flower in its mouth as compared to Ash's Treecko holding a twig). Max gets very excited when saying "Treecko, I choose you!" because it's something he always wanted to say.

A video call from a rather panicked May comes in. She explains that there's a Wailord beached where she's training, and Nurse Joy runs off to help it, telling the kids to look after the three starters and not let them go outside because they're not used to it. Brock follows her. Team Rocket are standing outside the window and hear about the Wailord. They decide they want to catch it.

The Pokémon Center's Torchic runs off towards the outside. It seems rather strong; every time one of Ash's or Brock's Pokémon (or May's Torchic) tries to stop it, it attacks them and keeps going, even Corphish. Corphish tries to attack it but Ash stops it from hurting the smaller Pokémon. Pikachu stops it momentarily with its lightning cheeks, but it pulls a tears-in-its-eyes trick and Pikachu relaxes and lets down its guard, allowing the PC Torchic to run by again. It makes it outside and Corphish chases it, attacking it to make it stop. Accidentally, the Torchic evolves into a Combusken. Ash and Max are less than amused. They panic.

Ash and Max decide that the only thing to do is to substitute May's Torchic for the evolved one, and try to stop the Trainer from choosing it. They flinch as they imagine what May would do if she caught them, so they just have to keep her away.

It turns out that the Wailord will be fine, and it just needs to rest a bit. May and Joy return to the Pokémon Center. May sits down and Max brings her a cup of tea, asking her if she needs anything else. She starts to get a bit suspicious and asks where her Torchic is. Max freaks slightly and says it's outside. She heads for the door to go find it. Max tries to stop her and she gets really suspicious.

Meanwhile, on the other side of the same door, Stephanie, the young Trainer, is inspecting the Starter Pokémon with her father. She's very indecisive and can't choose between them. She stops in front of Torchic and says that she chooses it, but Ash says "Forget it!" She doesn't quite hear him and Ash quickly covers up by saying that Torchic is a bad choice, because it's smelly and noisy and disobedient etc. There is a banging noise and Nurse Joy doesn't know what it is, but Ash says it's just the wind. May comes into the room, and her Torchic sees her and runs to her. She hugs it and demands to know what's going on. This is when Combusken, who Ash and Max hid in a cupboard, bursts out. Nurse Joy is surprised at this and Ash and Max explain what happened.

They look out the window and see Wailord floating in the sky, high above them, in a sling with the Team Rocket "R" on them. They run outside and saw Team Rocket, in their balloon, reciting their motto. Then, Combusken jumps up and attacks the balloon. The ropes holding the Wailord are cut and it falls into the sea. Pikachu attacks Team Rocket and they blast off before falling down again.

Nurse Joy tells Stephanie that Combusken probably isn't the best choice for a beginner, so she chooses Mudkip. Treecko gets upset and starts to cry. Stephanie's father looks at Treecko and gets upset too, and asks if it's too late for him to have Treecko and become a Trainer. The others assure him that it is fine, so Mudkip and Treecko prepare for a new life on the road with their new Trainers.

== Major events ==
* Brock's starter Pokémon, {{TP|Brock|Onix}} is revealed.

=== Debuts ===
*{{p|Combusken}}
*{{p|Slakoth}}
*{{p|Wailord}}

== Characters ==
=== Humans ===
* {{Ash}}
* {{an|May}}
* [[Brock]]
* [[Max]]
* [[Jessie]]
* [[James]]
* [[Nurse Joy]]
* {{ka|Flint}} (flashback)
* {{ho|Stephanie}}
* Stephanie's father

=== Pokémon ===
[[Who’s That Pokémon?]]: {{p|Lotad}}
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OP|Ash|Pikachu}})
* {{p|Meowth}} ({{TRM}})
* {{p|Wobbuffet}} ({{OP|Jessie|Wobbuffet}}
* {{p|Taillow}} ({{OP|Ash|Taillow}})
* {{p|Treecko}} ({{OP|Ash|Treecko}})
* {{p|Corphish}} ({{OP|Ash|Corphish}})
* {{p|Torchic}} ({{OP|May|Torchic}})
* {{p|Beautifly}} ({{OP|May|Beautifly}})
* {{p|Onix}} ({{OP|Brock|Onix}}; flashback)
* {{p|Forretress}} ({{OP|Brock|Forretress}})
* {{p|Lotad}} ({{OP|Brock|Lotad}})
* {{p|Mudkip}} ({{OP|Brock|Mudkip}})
* {{p|Roselia}} ({{OP|Drew|Roselia}})
* {{p|Slakoth}} ([[Norman]]'s; flashback, debut)
* {{p|Treecko}} ([[starter Pokémon]])
* {{p|Torchic}} ([[starter Pokémon]] evolves)
* {{p|Mudkip}} ([[starter Pokémon]])
* {{p|Combusken}} ({{g|Center}} guard, newly evolved, debut)
* {{p|Wingull}} (unnamed contestant's)
* {{p|Azurill}} (unnamed contestant's)
* {{p|Aggron}} (unnamed contestant's)
* {{p|Wailord}} (debut)

== Trivia ==
*The English dub is based on the phrase "having a whale of a time"
* Ash telling Brock that his father sounds cool, receives the reply "I guess..." This presumably is a response to when he abandoned his family.
* This was the last episode to air before ''[[Jirachi: Wish Maker]]'' debuted in Japanese theaters.
* Exactly [[AG134|100 episodes later]] (initially 101, due to the [[AG101 (unaired)|canceled episode]]), Brock would return to the [[Pewter Gym]] to see his family and {{TP|Brock|Onix}}. This would also be the last time he would see his Onix before it evolved into a {{p|Steelix}} prior to ''[[AG177|Grating Spaces]]''.
*The Treecko that appears in this episode and by the end of it ends up becoming Stephanie's Dad's Pokemon puts a flower in it's mouth the same way Ash's Treecko also puts a twig in it's mouth.
=== Errors ===

=== Dub edits ===

==In other languages==
* French: '''{{tt|Un Poussifeu bien capricieux|A quite capricious Torchic}}
* Italian: '''{{tt|Evoluzione a sorpresa|Surprising evolution}}'''
* Latin American Spanish: '''{{tt|¡El primer Pokémon!|The stater Pokémon!}}'''
* Portuguese: {{tt|'''Cadê o Meu Torchic?'''|Where is my Torchic?}}
* Spanish: '''{{tt|Salvar a Wailord|Save Wailord}}'''

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Animation physics

2009-01-08T16:04:29Z

WolfMan of Light: /* Examples */

'''Anime physics''' is a [[fanon]] term used to describe all the unusual, impossible, and sometimes absurd moments in the {{pkmn|anime}} where real-world physics do not seem to apply. At times, the term can also be used to describe when an [[move|attack]] works differently in the anime than it would in the [[Pokémon games|games]]. Some common examples are unusual feats of strength and agility, surviving lethal attacks, and {{wp|hammerspace}}.

Anime physics are often caused by several factors. The anime is generally more focused on telling a story in one or several episodes than getting the details right, so sometimes the writers will twist or bend physics so the episode can unfold the way they want it so. Sometimes it is a case of oversight; anime physics do not seem unusual unless someone stops to think about how a situation would work in the real world.

==Examples==
* Everything explodes in the anime. Most attacks explode when they connect with an opposing attack, even if the attacks would not normally do so. (even, and some would say especially, non-flammable substances such as leaves or water)
**In contests, almost every move will explode and send a shower of sparkles down into the crowd.
* Ash and his friends seem to have an unlimited amount of space in their bags, especially Brock, from a sleeping bag to the things he uses to cook.
**In one episode Tracy brings out around 40 - 50 sketch books to show Professor Oak and then put them back in the same bag that they should not have fitted into in the first place.
* Very often, Pokémon will be affected by moves they would be immune to, due to their type, according to the games. The is shown a lot when [[Ash's Pikachu]] fights a {{type2|Ground}} Pokémon, it uses an {{type2|Electric}} move and it works well.
** {{TP|Ash|Pikachu}}'s electric attacks fluctuate between being able to affect {{type2|Ground}} Pokémon (such as [[EP005|Brock's Onix]] and [[AG016|Roxanne's Geodude]]) and having no effect at all (such as [[Spell of the Unown|Lisa's Quagsire]], [[AG096|Rocky's Quagsire]] and [[The Rise of Darkrai|Maurice's Torterra]]). The anime's explanation for this is that ever since [[EP005|Pikachu received a power up]], it has enough power to override the immunity. However, no matter how much power it has, it shouldn't be able to affect ground types.
* Another example is when [[May's Squirtle]] attacked [[Harley's Banette]] with {{m|Tackle}} in ''[[AG173|New Plot, Odd Lot]]'', despite the {{type2|Ghost}}'s immunity to {{type2|Normal}} attacks.
* In multiple instances, {{m|Shadow Ball}} is able to hit {{type2|Normal}} Pokémon, despite being a {{type2|Ghost}} attack.
* Many Pokémon know [[anime move errors|moves they cannot learn in the games]].
* {{Ash}} was able to pick up {{TP|Ash|Larvitar}} despite it weighing more than [[List of Pokémon by weight|150 lbs (70 kg)]], according to game data. {{p|Hippopotas}} is also similar, due to the fact that it can rest on top of Ash's head without crushing him under 109 lbs (49 kg) of weight.
* Pokémon surviving [[one hit KO]] attacks, like {{m|Horn Drill}}, without fainting.
* In ''[[AG147|Sweet Baby James]]'', when Jessie picks up [[May's Munchlax]] and puts it in a bag, despite it weighing over 220 lbs (100kg). On another note of this, in ''[[AG159|Off the Unbeaten Path]]'', [[Max]] was able to carry it on his back despite being less than a quarter of the weight that Munchlax is.
* Many Pokémon are able to dodge moves that are sure to hit, such as when [[Ash's Squirtle]] was able to dodge an {{m|Aerial Ace}} from [[Pyramid King Brandon|Brandon's]] {{p|Ninjask}}. In the games, Aerial Ace never misses. Another example is in ''[[AG185|Duels of the Jungle]]'' when a Weavile dodges [[Ash's Aipom]]'s {{m|Swift}}.
* [[Ash's Turtwig]] was hurt by [[Gardenia's Turtwig]]'s {{m|Leech Seed}}. However, in the games, {{type2|Grass}}s can't be hit by this move.
* {{TP|Ash|Pikachu}} appears to receive a power-down at the beginning of every saga, meaning it appears to have just as much skill as the new beginners on {{Ash}}'s team despite being shown to be very powerful in some of the matches towards the end of each saga.
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===Other Examples===
An additional use of anime physics is for humorous purposes; it is common in animated media to have characters do things that would cause harm to or be impossible for a live actor for the sake of entertainment.

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* The capacity of [[Brock]]'s bag sometimes takes on impossible proportions, such as in ''[[EP009|The School of Hard Knocks]]'' when he managed to pull a full tablet and entire tea set out of it.

[[Category:Fanon terminology]]

Talk:Maddie Blaustein

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under 'musical appearences' does Live count as its own entry or do we link to individual songs? Because she was still Meowth's voice in that, and sang in "Best at Being the Worst"- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Blackjack Gabbiani|Blackjack Gabbiani]] ([[User talk:Blackjack Gabbiani|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Blackjack Gabbiani|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

They're both added. --[[User:Argy|Argy]] 03:18, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

==Ketsubans revert==

Just like to say that, as a transsexual person, Ketsuban is correct. Just to put any thoughts Argy may have at rest. - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]]

== This Seems Kinda Odd... ==

Why is there an Adult Warning page on Misty and Tracey and [[OrangeShipping]] but there isn't one on a real-life tranny? {{unsigned|Bryce739}}

:I let Pie know that the shipping warnings should have been removed recently, apparently she has to wait for Zhen Lin to return before it can be removed. --[[User:Porygon|Porygon]] 03:00, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

::Because it only briefly mentions that she's transgendered. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 03:28, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

:::So what if she's a transgender. What's the big deal? --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]][[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]] 04:11, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

::::That's what I'd like to know. Wikipedia doesn't do anything special to her article there. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 04:14, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

:::::Not my point at all. I was just comparing. {{unsigned|Bryce739}}

:It's basically because some people take shippings really seriously, so there has to be some sort of disclaimer. After all, we do adhere to NPOV here as much as possible, we're not gonna go out and say something like "anyone who uses Arceus is a cheater" or "Ash is an idiot", except with backed up facts. Since shippings, of course, cannot be proven unless the writers actually decide to focus there, well, there's the warning just in case, especially in cases where there's a homosexual shipping, since there are always more conservative people who'll complain about them, partly for the shipping, partly for the other part.

:As for there being no warning on this page, well... why should we worry that a human being with feelings offends someone with the point of view that she's less of a person because she's transgendered? '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 07:34, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

== two things==
so wait, was she born a guy and got her gender switched? im a little confused.

plus, ive seen her credited as Addie Blaustein. Should that be mentioned? [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 23:51, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

:In the '''Biography''' section:

:''"Maddie Blaustein was born on October 9, 1960 in Long Island, New York, USA, as '''Adam John Blaustein'''. She is a male-to-female [[wp:transexualism|transexual]]."''

:I believe that answers your first question. As for the second, sure, if it wasn't some sort of typo ar anything. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:00, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, I read that part. I just dont get it.[[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 00:07, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

:::"Male-to-female" means born a male, became a female through medical procedure. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:11, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
::::oh. thanks. dont i feel dumb. [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 00:18, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
==Death==
Someone in the forum said that she died last week in her sleep. Is it true? And please add a notice on the page if it's protected. -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 13:44, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:We haven't been able to confirm or refute it yet, which is why the article is protected for now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:15, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes. It has been confirmed that she died in her sleep last week. R.I.P Maddie. You will be missed by all fans.

~TG~

:Please provide a source if it is true. Because I cannot find anything online besides Serebii stating this is true. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 15:07, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::I find it a little hard to believe unless a source is given. Serebii.net is the only place where it has been mentioned so far but no sources are provided there, and Wikipedia, PKMN.net and others Pokemon websites have no mention of this news. [[User:Evilgidgit|Evilgidgit]] 15:23, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

so sadly missed she got bangungot same sa {{wp|Marky Cielo}}--[[User:Bakunawa|Bakunawa]] 15:51, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:Her website isn't up any more. I bet they took it down. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 17:08, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

::That's not in any way a for-sure sign of someone's death. I'd imagine that [[Pokébeach]] would go down temporarily if they didn't pay their monthly server bill, and we wouldn't claim its webmaster had died just because the site went down.

::Of course, speaking of Pokébeach, we could wire one of their staff with a microphone, send them into the [[4Kids]] headquarters, and inquire various people in the company about the issue...

::Granted, odds are that if it is true, someone at 4Kids or some other place he/she/it/{{tt|whatever|Seriously, don't go around calling her a 'whatever'.}} has been known to work at will say something soon. After all, the Sonic fanbase didn't learn about {{wp|Deem Bristow}}'s death until around the time the funeral was being held...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 17:13, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

::a LiveJournal community posted about emails people were recieving about this since the 14th. I just don't know what to believe at the moment --[[User:Empressdonna|empressdonna]] 17:53, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

:::Please provide a link. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 18:38, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::All we have right now is people saying they got e-mails from sources they don't define and troublemakers have pretended to be voice actors in the past. WPM says some announcement will be made tomorrow, so if his source is correct we'll know for sure then. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:11, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::: http://community.livejournal.com/pokemon/2280968.html Here is the link where I got the email thing from. --[[User:Empressdonna|empressdonna]] 20:25, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

This is terrible... [[User:Paul'sDialga]] (John 10:52, 18 December 2008 (UTC))

:I am going to miss Maddie on Pokemon and she just got a job back on it. This has to be such a sad time for her family right now especially this close to Christmas but at least it was a peaceful death. Thanks Maddie for giving al us fans 8 Years of entertainment and may you Rest in Peace. You will be missed [[User:WolfMan of Light|De Wolfy is here]] 17:42, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

== source ==

please click http://www.serebiiforums.com/showpost.php?p=9159007&postcount=173 for source and this http://pokebeach.com/news/1208/maddie-blaustein-passes-away for when her funeral was. [[User:Lindsayoris15|Lindsayoris15]] 22:16, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Questionable how Pokebeach says that she died last Thursday while Serebii says just today...[[User:Fatal Wobuffet|Fatal Wobuffet]]

:"I am sad to inform you all, that I have recently been informed by separate sources of the loss of one of our beloved original voice actors, Madeleine Blaustein, '''unfortunately passed away in her sleep last week.'''" [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 22:45, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

::Ok, here is a source by 4Kids themselves: [http://www.4kids.tv/buzz/view/2005 http://www.4kids.tv/buzz/view/2005][[User:Prmatt11|Prmatt11]] 01:40, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== Featured Article ==

What? Really? I know it's sad, but we can put her on the main page without this charade. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:48, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

:I agree. Featuring an article is for recognizing an excellent article, not because the subject of the article just died. -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 12:48, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

::I'm totally agreeing with you. She passing away should not trigger an automatic FA status. And admins BTW, there is a typo at the external links section that I can't fix due to the protection. In one of the links, her surname is spelled as "Blaustien". '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 16:47, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

:::Fixed. And I do agree it's not one of the best-written articles on here, but just for a few days at least, let it be a Featured Article. I expect that status will be removed when the Main Page gets put back to normal. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 16:55, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

::::It's our way of honoring her memory. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 18:50, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

:::::Exactly. Best way to do it. Will it remain a featured article after its removal? [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 18:57, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

::::::Well, it could have been on the main page without this status too, but I guess this way is OK too. About the future, I don't know, since I don't think that the article is very rich in content. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 19:02, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

::::::: I fully agree with honoring Maddie's memory, but making an article that does not meet the criteria a featured article is not exactly maintaining the standard of neutrality that is paramount for a good encyclopedia. That being said, I say we let this be for at least a day or two. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 19:45, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

:::::::: Ohhhh guys I have to say that is a nice thing to do for her and I know that she would appreciate it. I am still deeply saddened by it though. [[User:WolfMan of Light|De Wolfy is here]] 17:43, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Maddie Blaustein

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User talk:WolfMan of Light

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== Charizard ==

"*Charizard has often been called Ash's most powerful pokemon due to his battle performance, it's evolutionary stage and it's level."
#By whom? Don't insert opinions into articles.
#Pokémon, not pokemon.
#It's is a contraction of it is. Somehow, I doubt that Charizard is either evolutionary stage ''or'' level. Use its, the possessive form of it, in these cases.
#Charizard's gender has never been confirmed one way or another, so you shouldn't refer to it as "him."

If you plan on re-adding this to the article, please address these issues first. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 19:00, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
:"members of Pojo and Bulbaforums" is not a reliable source. It doesn't matter whether or not the opinion is actually yours; don't put it in the article. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 23:27, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

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Well it helps to let people know these things, Ugghh honestly no editing the talk page no editing the uder page more than three times a day, is there some kind or rule book [[User:WolfMan of Light|Being unable to change or delete stupid things from your talk page is stupid]] 13:11, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

:If the server running the place was free, then there wouldn't be such policies in place. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 13:16, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
:First for the Userspace is [[Bulbapedia:Userspace policy|Userspace Policy]]. It's found on the main page. The talk page policy is [[Bulbapedia:Talk page|harder to find]]. You should be able to find most under the {{cat|Bulbapedia policies}} category. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 13:19, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

::Fine no more edits today then but how do I create a catagory for all the tags that I want to put in such as being a Leo and that, is there some kind of coding for it. [[User:WolfMan of Light|Being unable to change or delete stupid things from your talk page is stupid]] 13:26, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

:::The category with all the user tags can be found [[:Category:User tags|right here]]. To add one to your profile, simply type in <nowiki>{{User Libra}}</nowiki>, and it will appear on your profile.
:::Also, if you use the Preview Button, you don't have to worry about going over your editing limit for the day. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 14:41, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

::::Well that clears things up loads, thanks very much PAK man [[User:WolfMan of Light|Being unable to change or delete stupid things from your talk page is stupid]] 19:10, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

:::::One more thing. I hope you don't plan to keep that as your regular signature. It's against our signature policy. If you already changed it than ignore this message. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:46, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::[[Bulbapedia:Signature policy|To make things clearer]]--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 04:49, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

== Genders ==

HOLD IT! There's a policy on Bulbapedia, and this is it: "Everything on any article must be proven directly." That means no "OMG MAY'S BUBLSAUR LEIKS ASH'S SO AHS'S EES A MAIL." It is OBJECTIONABLE. What you SHOULD do is examine the evidence and check which one, without a doubt, proves that Ash's Bulbasaur is a [fe]male. I rest my case. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 14:43, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:Yes. And don't leave offensive comments on talk pages because some people may think differently about a Pokémon's gender. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:41, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

::Excuse me I have examined the evidence and I stick by what I said, Ash's Bulbasaur, Charizard, Totodile are male. Many female pokemon in the anime have fallen in love with a male and automatically been classed as a female so why not the male ones.[[User:WolfMan of Light|De Wolfy is here]] 13:42, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:::A female can fall in love with a female {{tt|*|(not that I SUPPORT it....)}} [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 13:43, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
::::I don't think they are going to allow that on the DUB anime especially the 4Kids side of it when May's Bulbasaur was in it. Also with Charla and the others.
:::::OBJECTION. Sailor Moon? TAKE THAT! '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 13:51, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::Sailor Moon sorry I only seen a couple of episodes and well frankly I didn't know that it had Gay characters. [[User:WolfMan of Light|De Wolfy is here]] 23:23, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::You need to stop being all butt-hurt over the genders. They weren't referred to by their genders in the anime, so we don't add them in. It doesn't matter how much evidence there is. There will always be people who may think differently and you need to respect their opinions instead of calling them idiots. Until the anime officially states so, it remains unknown. We are not saying Charizard is male nor are we saying it's female. End of discussion. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:15, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Well I am sorry to go so....overboard I just feel very strongly about that kind of thing. I have never been so bothered about Ash's newer Pokemon such as His Hoenn and Sinnoh ones but his earlier ones I have always classed into genders.[[User:WolfMan of Light|De Wolfy is here]] 23:38, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

User talk:WolfMan of Light

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Talk:Ash's Charizard/Archive 1

2008-12-14T23:40:35Z

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Ash's Charizard used {{m|Submission}} against Magmar during the gym battle with Blaine in Episode 58 or 59.

Basically he just spins around while flying to confuse the opponent before using {{m|Seismic Toss}}. --[[User:cbhadha|cbhadha]] 9:32, 29 June 2007

== Gender ==

What episode was Charizard's gender confirmed? Just curious. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 22:04, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it was a specific episode, I think it's just because it happens to have a crush on a Charizard with a lighter roar than Ash's and a bow on its head. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 23:56, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

:: Ah, just wonderin. ^^; [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 23:58, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

== Released? ==

Well, we don't technically list James's Cacnea as released (so I wonder if we should), but although Ash "released" Charizard, he technically just left it at the Charicific Valley, and it still goes in his Poké Ball without needing to be recaptured. So really, I'm wondering, should Charizard and Squirtle go where Cacnea does? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:20, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
:Hmm, good point. Well, I really think that should be possible. He does return in extreme battles. (like the Elite Four, Pokémon Frontier) So you're right, he isn't gone, and Charizard is still his. Ash just wants Charizard to feel well, and I really think he doesn't see the point of keeping his Pokémon at Oak's lab when there is a whole place for him.{{unsigned|TheBlazikenMaster}}

Yeah I agree because Ash just left him there to train. It's basically leaving you're Pokemon at the Daycare! Because 1. He left it there for training 2. It gets stronger, just like in the daycare and 3. There was never any indication it was released. [[User:Big Johnno|Big Johnno]]

Where the hell did anyone get "released" from? ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 10:23, 10 November 2008 (UTC))

== Charmeleon picture ==

Anyone got a pic of Charmeleon? [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 01:47, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Do we realy nead one? [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 13:18, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
:We have them for Butterfree and Sceptile... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 20:48, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

== Look guys... ==

I don't mean too nag, but Charizard was never confirmed male...Errr...Unless a character refers to it as a "he" constantly, then i think it could be ether gender. I mean, but because it likes [[Charla|another Charizard which is a female]] doesn't mean anything. I mean, Charizard could be a female, and be a lesbian (: I mean, i'm pretty sure Pokémon have sexualities (''as in my LeafGreen (Well it was actually my cousins game but i know he didn't cheat on it or anything!), my male Blaziken and male Charizard came out with a normal Torchic egg xD Glitchy much?'') [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 19:44, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

:Entirely correct. I've removed the gender, and if anyone has a convincing argument that shows that this Charizard is male, I'll be happy to hear it. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 02:04, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah. That was like calling Ash's Bulbasaur a male because it liked May's Bulbasaur who's female (and that isn't even confirmed). I'm thinking, should we recheck Ash's Sceptile? Because that says it's male because of the whole Megainium thing. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 03:19, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

::Woah. I didn't think anyone was actually doing to listen to me and just start arguing...But like, i think a Pokémon's gender is only really conformed if someone goes "Oh you have a male ________" or "female ______" or if their constantly referred too as one gender. E.G. Ash's Pikachu constantly (like every episode) being referred too as He, Him, or His. (: But thats just my outlook on it [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 06:37, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
:::It probably is male but, like most Pokémon genders, that isn't confirmed. We need to start making a hard line here and from the situation with Pikachu, we should stick to "it" unless it is explicitly stated. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:17, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Political correctness much? [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 08:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
I agree
But just to add on I've got some sites here that link him as being male (just to be sure!) [http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Charizard_-_In_the_anime/id/4912154 The First Website] [http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=210680 This one also applies to the hey you have a male____!] {{unsigned|Big Johnno}}
:Oh wow... That totally proves it's male. A fan site... And sign your comments. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 09:34, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

its still serebii! {{unsigned|Big Johnno}}
:Doesn't make it trustworthy. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 09:57, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

meh, try finding proof of charizard being female. come on I Dare You!
:And now it's getting out of hand. All for making Charizard, Pikachu, and pretty much everyone on Ash's team male, say aye. Honestly, if we're using the "OH LOL CHARIZARD MIGHT BE A LESBIAN" argument... come on. I'm as supportive of homosexuality as anyone else in their right mind, but really, if we have to wait for Charla to show up and hand Dawn a Charmander egg... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
::-_-' There is still no logical proof as charizard appeared before '''GENII'''. Which showed Genders for the first time, Now charizard being a First Gen Pokémon, The creators had no Idea About its gender, But there is still no proof, I mean Charmander could've been a girl before even turning into a Charmeleon, And as a Charmeleon it was a Boy, And so on, There is lot's of theory about Chari's gender. Oh yeah, Sign your Frikkin' Comments --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 10:10, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:::No proof of any Pokémon's gender. If the freaking gender differences shown by a Pokémon that itself debuted before Gen IV (I'm talking that damned Venusaur now) isn't big enough of a hint for everyone that they ''do'' apply in the anime, I don't know what is, Pikachu's dong slipping into a shot or something? Look, here's a hint. If Misty comes back with Gyarados and IT HAS WHITE WHISKERS (as they were blue before) then undoubtedly, completely, we ''must say'' that Ash's Pikachu is male, Jessie's Wobbuffet is male, and so on. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:19, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
::::It's pathetic. Change back to Male, honestly, this is ridiculous. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 10:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::I agree that it should be stated to be a male unless somebody can prove it's gay. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 10:57, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

::::::Ok so everyone on Ash's team is Male. [[User:Crystallucario|~'''Crystal''']][[User talk:Crystallucario|~'''Lucario~''']] 11:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::This discussion isn't over until the page is unprotected. And it's up to an admin to do so. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 11:11, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Look...It shouldn't be assumed Male just because theres no proof what gender it is. It's just sexist saying all Ash's Pokémon are male. |: Gender difference shouldn't count as that was in Gen4, and Charizard is from Gen1/The first Pokémon seasons/whatever. |: [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 15:26, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

:Okay, yeah most likely Charizard is male. But being that there are some people that feel that it could be otherwise, maybe we should leave it as unknown until it is 100% confirmed. I mean Pikachu has just as much evidence that it is male as Charizard and yet we still refuse to call it that. It's a little hypocritical.

:Oh yeah, and I don't like ignorant bastards calling others dumbasses for thinking differently! You know, people who are that uncomfortable about homosexuality are usually trying to hide their own homosexual feelings. *snap* --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:08, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
::Well, I understand that, the word "gay" is often used in a negative way. I still think it's male, but you're right it's not 100% confirmed. When exactly do any of you plan to unlock this page? Just curious... [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 20:18, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
::Some people think differently? Who ''seriously'' thinks that, unlike about ''Pikachu'', which I'm about ready to say "throw that crap out the window" because it wouldn't matter if they '''''showed Pikachu's dong on TV''''' to them. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Saying that Charizard is "Gen I" doesn't make much of a difference since Gen II was already in development at the time the anime was created (Ho-Oh ''was'' in the first episode, after all). So the animators may have already had a grasp on genders even before Gen IV introduced physical differences. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:25, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

::::Honestly, I'm not against homosexuality(my sister has a friend that is gay), but Charizard has to be male, at least in the American version because, they aren't going to promote homosexuality in a show aimed at kids. [[User:Pokeman21|Pokeman21]] 19:38, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::[[Harley|Uh-huh]]. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:43, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Ok, this is really stupid. I actually want to edit the page. but i cant cuz of this whole arguement. didnt we agree to be neutral about this stuff? we dont know its gender until it is stated in the original. its same thing with Pikachu or whatever other Pokemon is highly speculated. so can the protection finally end? [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 23:57, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

:And why does this conversation always have to end up being about homosexuality and Harley?? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:10, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
::I really agree. Who cares whether or not Charizard is homosexual? I really think this silly discussion should end today. I don't know about the rest of you but I personally don't care if the Charizard is a homosexual or straight. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 00:17, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

:::I second that motion. I'm all for gays on television, but this series will hardly do anything for the community. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:39, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

::::Okay, so shall we keep it unknown until we see Misty's Gyarados back with white whiskers? Or the Pink Butterfree with black wingdots? Misty ''has'' to return SOMETIME during DP... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:03, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::I'd rather vote on keeping it male until the homosexuality has been proven, but I'm voting for unknown instead. Whatever makes the page unprotected. It's bad enough that I can't edit my crappy user page, if the protection will still be here several weeks from when I'm posting this, it will be WAY too out-of-date. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 00:37, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

The page has been unprotected either today or yesterday, I can't remember which. Either way, I ''highly'' doubt that this Charizard is gay. People just want to make it as a possibility because no one ever said what the gender is in the series. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:10, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
:You're right, I didn't notice, sorry about that. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 01:28, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
::I vote we put Charizard as Male because they are not going to promote homosexuality in a show aimed at kids, at least, not in the American Dub. [[User:Pokeman21|Pokeman21]] 22:35, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
:::We aren't voting on anything! It stays as Unknown. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 02:38, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::::I still think it's ridiculous to find homosexuality a possibility. I'd like to see another more realistic reason why it stays unknown. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 11:08, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

It stays unknown until an anime character calls it a male or refers to it as a "he". ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:48, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:ok so your going to wait until the episode when charizard returns and ash be like "hey guys its charizard...did u guys know hes a male" lol ''...not going to happen...'' look there never going to do stuff like that and u know it , if they were to have said something it should be on the episode when ash caught it or sometime after but since it didnt u should look at its personalities like ..the writers are trying to hint at all of us that charizards a male by giving it male personalities ..there never going to confirm it...i know bulbapedia is strict bout this stuff but u cant just let it be unknown even after the show ends.. [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
::To put it simply, YES. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:05, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I too think this is rediculous, there's no chance he's homosexual in a kids show. I think it should be changed to Male. ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 10:00, 10 November 2008 (UTC))
:Sigh.... And yet we have Harley... --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 10:05, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

I know about Harley, but [[Ash's Totodile]] is listed as Male for the same reason, because he fell in love with Azumarill. Surely either Charizard should be changed to Male or Totodile changed to unknown. [[Ash's Totodile|This]] is what i mean, there is a lack of consistency with genders here. ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 10:20, 10 November 2008 (UTC))
:I agree. There should be consistency. Therefore I'll change Totodile to Unknown until someone has solid evidence that it's male. I mean, we have strict guidelines for Ash's Pikachu despite Dawn's Buneary be confirmed female. So should his other Pokémon. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 10:23, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Charizard I think deserves to be called a Male in the page because he has fallen in love with a female pokemon with a bow on it's head and has the name "Charla", what more proof do you need he is male. Honestly I wish that some people on this site had brains for this. [[User:WolfMan of Light|De Wolfy is here]] 14:19, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

:Charla is obviously a crossdresser. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 14:22, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

::Well getting back to planet earth for a second I don't think that is going to happen in pokemon (James does not count since he does this often enough with Jessie). I mean it is so obvious. If Gayness is looked down upon then how do you think romance is looked upon in the anime. Apparently most of Ash's pokemon are classed as things simply for being in love with a female pokemon but all female pokemon have to do to be classed as female is be in love with a male character (or in Bayleef's case Ash) or even just wear flowers or whatever. [[User:WolfMan of Light|De Wolfy is here]] 23:21, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

:::Most of the time the flower wearing and man loving comes with a verbal confirmation. I think that those without SHOULD be removed. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 23:23, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Another point to make. Similar to abilites, just because a Pokémon is definitely male in the games (e.g. {{p|Tauros}}, {{p|Nidoking}}) doesn't prove that it's male, and the converse is true as well... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 23:31, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::I think what it all comes down to is fan speculation, what different people ''want'' to think; very few genders have actually been confirmed, either verbally or by noting gender differences in Gen IV, so what's wrong with leaving the rest "Unknown"? At least we're not claiming authority on things we really don't know for sure. It's one of the things I really wish the writers of the show would tell us outright through an interview or something. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 23:36, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Would {{MTR}} be one of those examples? [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 23:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

::::::OMG this is getting worse now your suggesting deleting the ones that already have genders. Some people on Bulbapedia are sick, leave the genders alone, use your brains and give the pokemon the right genders. [[User:WolfMan of Light|De Wolfy is here]] 23:40, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

== We obviously need to discuss which image we want in the article. ==

I can see obviously that the image keeps changing. My vote would be [[a:Image:AG340.jpg|this]], because it actually shows it is Ash's Charizard. While [[a:Image:Ash's Charizard.jpg|this]] and [[a:Image:Ash_charizard.jpg|this]] could be any Charizard. Yes, I am very aware of the image title already states who the Charizard belongs to, but people should see who the Charizard belongs to just by looking at the image. 13:56, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm the one who put the one with Ash in it, but the current pic has great quality, so I'm content--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 14:00, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Dragon Rage ==

The note in trivia on when the move dragon rage was first used by Ash's Charizard is wrong and I have tried to change it but everytime I do it gets changed back. Watch episode 112 enter the dragonite. Charizard uses it there and there might even be a time before then when he does. --[[User:Pazusalmon|Pazusalmon]] 23:43, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
:The trivia is saying that it first used '''{{m|Dragonbreath}}''' in the battle with Gary. Infact, Dragon Rage was used even before [[EP112]]. That was used in [[EP105]] when Charizard begins to trust Ash. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:47, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Shouldn't we mke the pics a gallery--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:24, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
:What pics? You mean the four we have in the article? I honestly think we need more to make a gallery. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 18:37, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

== Edit War ==

Alright, we're ending this right now. Edit warring is '''strictly''' frowned upon here at Bulbapedia. So why don't we discuss here which screenshot is better?

Personally, I think the one with Charizard preparing to battle is a better screenshot. Why? Because Charizard takes up the entire photo. Yes, you can see Ash in it, but does that really matter? Many of Ash's Pokémon ({{AP|Corphish}}, {{AP|Heracross}}) don't have screenshots that contain him. Why is this one any different? --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 14:34, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Heracross does! But u destroyed the gallery--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 14:35, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

:I'm sorry for doing that, but I needed to stop the immature edit war that was going on. And Heracross doesn't, I just looked at the article. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 14:37, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

The original head pi, from Ka Boom with A View--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 14:38, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
:I agree with PAK Man, the one without Ash looks a lot better. I personally can't believe there is an edit war yet again on this article. Why is this article a source for edit wars? I don't know, but I really think it has to end. If I were an admin, I also would have protected the article, because I really hate edit wars, we have a discussion page for a reason. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 15:07, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
::I vote for the one with both Ash and Charizard. The one when it is getting ready for battle is hunched over and distorted. The animation in that episode wasnt good in the first place,, and that pose doesnt help. Plus, this shows how big charizard is compared to Ash. [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 15:08, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Could anyone remove that Charmeleon pic? It really has poor quality. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[User:Jmath/Sandbox|'''th''']] 20:22, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

== Zippo ==
why does it say Zippo's a Charizard? ---Sk8torchic
:Manga.--[[Blastoise (Pokémon)|K]][[Gary's Blastoise|kl]][[Blastoise (TCG)|l]][[User:Kkllnn|nn]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| blastoise]] 20:43, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

== "Useless" ==

Under "Trivia" it says "When it was a Charmeleon, it was one of the few (if only) Pokemon that Ash deliberately insulted. He called it "useless" in Attack of the Prehistoric Pokemon. (dub only)" When I heard him say this, I understood it to mean that it was useless to try giving orders to Charmeleon. [[User:Bardock|Bar]][[User_Talk:Bardock|dock]] 02:34, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
:It also forgets the é and a not in-between if and only (I fixed it now, but whoever added it needs to work on their style). I don't watch the anime, but if it's false, go ahead and remove it. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 02:39, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

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Ash's Charizard used {{m|Submission}} against Magmar during the gym battle with Blaine in Episode 58 or 59.

Basically he just spins around while flying to confuse the opponent before using {{m|Seismic Toss}}. --[[User:cbhadha|cbhadha]] 9:32, 29 June 2007

== Gender ==

What episode was Charizard's gender confirmed? Just curious. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 22:04, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it was a specific episode, I think it's just because it happens to have a crush on a Charizard with a lighter roar than Ash's and a bow on its head. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 23:56, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

:: Ah, just wonderin. ^^; [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 23:58, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

== Released? ==

Well, we don't technically list James's Cacnea as released (so I wonder if we should), but although Ash "released" Charizard, he technically just left it at the Charicific Valley, and it still goes in his Poké Ball without needing to be recaptured. So really, I'm wondering, should Charizard and Squirtle go where Cacnea does? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:20, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
:Hmm, good point. Well, I really think that should be possible. He does return in extreme battles. (like the Elite Four, Pokémon Frontier) So you're right, he isn't gone, and Charizard is still his. Ash just wants Charizard to feel well, and I really think he doesn't see the point of keeping his Pokémon at Oak's lab when there is a whole place for him.{{unsigned|TheBlazikenMaster}}

Yeah I agree because Ash just left him there to train. It's basically leaving you're Pokemon at the Daycare! Because 1. He left it there for training 2. It gets stronger, just like in the daycare and 3. There was never any indication it was released. [[User:Big Johnno|Big Johnno]]

Where the hell did anyone get "released" from? ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 10:23, 10 November 2008 (UTC))

== Charmeleon picture ==

Anyone got a pic of Charmeleon? [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 01:47, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Do we realy nead one? [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 13:18, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
:We have them for Butterfree and Sceptile... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 20:48, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

== Look guys... ==

I don't mean too nag, but Charizard was never confirmed male...Errr...Unless a character refers to it as a "he" constantly, then i think it could be ether gender. I mean, but because it likes [[Charla|another Charizard which is a female]] doesn't mean anything. I mean, Charizard could be a female, and be a lesbian (: I mean, i'm pretty sure Pokémon have sexualities (''as in my LeafGreen (Well it was actually my cousins game but i know he didn't cheat on it or anything!), my male Blaziken and male Charizard came out with a normal Torchic egg xD Glitchy much?'') [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 19:44, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

:Entirely correct. I've removed the gender, and if anyone has a convincing argument that shows that this Charizard is male, I'll be happy to hear it. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 02:04, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah. That was like calling Ash's Bulbasaur a male because it liked May's Bulbasaur who's female (and that isn't even confirmed). I'm thinking, should we recheck Ash's Sceptile? Because that says it's male because of the whole Megainium thing. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 03:19, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

::Woah. I didn't think anyone was actually doing to listen to me and just start arguing...But like, i think a Pokémon's gender is only really conformed if someone goes "Oh you have a male ________" or "female ______" or if their constantly referred too as one gender. E.G. Ash's Pikachu constantly (like every episode) being referred too as He, Him, or His. (: But thats just my outlook on it [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 06:37, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
:::It probably is male but, like most Pokémon genders, that isn't confirmed. We need to start making a hard line here and from the situation with Pikachu, we should stick to "it" unless it is explicitly stated. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:17, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Political correctness much? [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 08:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
I agree
But just to add on I've got some sites here that link him as being male (just to be sure!) [http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Charizard_-_In_the_anime/id/4912154 The First Website] [http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=210680 This one also applies to the hey you have a male____!] {{unsigned|Big Johnno}}
:Oh wow... That totally proves it's male. A fan site... And sign your comments. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 09:34, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

its still serebii! {{unsigned|Big Johnno}}
:Doesn't make it trustworthy. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 09:57, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

meh, try finding proof of charizard being female. come on I Dare You!
:And now it's getting out of hand. All for making Charizard, Pikachu, and pretty much everyone on Ash's team male, say aye. Honestly, if we're using the "OH LOL CHARIZARD MIGHT BE A LESBIAN" argument... come on. I'm as supportive of homosexuality as anyone else in their right mind, but really, if we have to wait for Charla to show up and hand Dawn a Charmander egg... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
::-_-' There is still no logical proof as charizard appeared before '''GENII'''. Which showed Genders for the first time, Now charizard being a First Gen Pokémon, The creators had no Idea About its gender, But there is still no proof, I mean Charmander could've been a girl before even turning into a Charmeleon, And as a Charmeleon it was a Boy, And so on, There is lot's of theory about Chari's gender. Oh yeah, Sign your Frikkin' Comments --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 10:10, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:::No proof of any Pokémon's gender. If the freaking gender differences shown by a Pokémon that itself debuted before Gen IV (I'm talking that damned Venusaur now) isn't big enough of a hint for everyone that they ''do'' apply in the anime, I don't know what is, Pikachu's dong slipping into a shot or something? Look, here's a hint. If Misty comes back with Gyarados and IT HAS WHITE WHISKERS (as they were blue before) then undoubtedly, completely, we ''must say'' that Ash's Pikachu is male, Jessie's Wobbuffet is male, and so on. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:19, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
::::It's pathetic. Change back to Male, honestly, this is ridiculous. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 10:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::I agree that it should be stated to be a male unless somebody can prove it's gay. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 10:57, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

::::::Ok so everyone on Ash's team is Male. [[User:Crystallucario|~'''Crystal''']][[User talk:Crystallucario|~'''Lucario~''']] 11:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::This discussion isn't over until the page is unprotected. And it's up to an admin to do so. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 11:11, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Look...It shouldn't be assumed Male just because theres no proof what gender it is. It's just sexist saying all Ash's Pokémon are male. |: Gender difference shouldn't count as that was in Gen4, and Charizard is from Gen1/The first Pokémon seasons/whatever. |: [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 15:26, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

:Okay, yeah most likely Charizard is male. But being that there are some people that feel that it could be otherwise, maybe we should leave it as unknown until it is 100% confirmed. I mean Pikachu has just as much evidence that it is male as Charizard and yet we still refuse to call it that. It's a little hypocritical.

:Oh yeah, and I don't like ignorant bastards calling others dumbasses for thinking differently! You know, people who are that uncomfortable about homosexuality are usually trying to hide their own homosexual feelings. *snap* --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:08, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
::Well, I understand that, the word "gay" is often used in a negative way. I still think it's male, but you're right it's not 100% confirmed. When exactly do any of you plan to unlock this page? Just curious... [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 20:18, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
::Some people think differently? Who ''seriously'' thinks that, unlike about ''Pikachu'', which I'm about ready to say "throw that crap out the window" because it wouldn't matter if they '''''showed Pikachu's dong on TV''''' to them. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Saying that Charizard is "Gen I" doesn't make much of a difference since Gen II was already in development at the time the anime was created (Ho-Oh ''was'' in the first episode, after all). So the animators may have already had a grasp on genders even before Gen IV introduced physical differences. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:25, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

::::Honestly, I'm not against homosexuality(my sister has a friend that is gay), but Charizard has to be male, at least in the American version because, they aren't going to promote homosexuality in a show aimed at kids. [[User:Pokeman21|Pokeman21]] 19:38, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::[[Harley|Uh-huh]]. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:43, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Ok, this is really stupid. I actually want to edit the page. but i cant cuz of this whole arguement. didnt we agree to be neutral about this stuff? we dont know its gender until it is stated in the original. its same thing with Pikachu or whatever other Pokemon is highly speculated. so can the protection finally end? [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 23:57, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

:And why does this conversation always have to end up being about homosexuality and Harley?? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:10, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
::I really agree. Who cares whether or not Charizard is homosexual? I really think this silly discussion should end today. I don't know about the rest of you but I personally don't care if the Charizard is a homosexual or straight. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 00:17, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

:::I second that motion. I'm all for gays on television, but this series will hardly do anything for the community. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:39, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

::::Okay, so shall we keep it unknown until we see Misty's Gyarados back with white whiskers? Or the Pink Butterfree with black wingdots? Misty ''has'' to return SOMETIME during DP... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:03, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::I'd rather vote on keeping it male until the homosexuality has been proven, but I'm voting for unknown instead. Whatever makes the page unprotected. It's bad enough that I can't edit my crappy user page, if the protection will still be here several weeks from when I'm posting this, it will be WAY too out-of-date. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 00:37, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

The page has been unprotected either today or yesterday, I can't remember which. Either way, I ''highly'' doubt that this Charizard is gay. People just want to make it as a possibility because no one ever said what the gender is in the series. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:10, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
:You're right, I didn't notice, sorry about that. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 01:28, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
::I vote we put Charizard as Male because they are not going to promote homosexuality in a show aimed at kids, at least, not in the American Dub. [[User:Pokeman21|Pokeman21]] 22:35, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
:::We aren't voting on anything! It stays as Unknown. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 02:38, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::::I still think it's ridiculous to find homosexuality a possibility. I'd like to see another more realistic reason why it stays unknown. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 11:08, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

It stays unknown until an anime character calls it a male or refers to it as a "he". ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:48, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:ok so your going to wait until the episode when charizard returns and ash be like "hey guys its charizard...did u guys know hes a male" lol ''...not going to happen...'' look there never going to do stuff like that and u know it , if they were to have said something it should be on the episode when ash caught it or sometime after but since it didnt u should look at its personalities like ..the writers are trying to hint at all of us that charizards a male by giving it male personalities ..there never going to confirm it...i know bulbapedia is strict bout this stuff but u cant just let it be unknown even after the show ends.. [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
::To put it simply, YES. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:05, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I too think this is rediculous, there's no chance he's homosexual in a kids show. I think it should be changed to Male. ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 10:00, 10 November 2008 (UTC))
:Sigh.... And yet we have Harley... --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 10:05, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

I know about Harley, but [[Ash's Totodile]] is listed as Male for the same reason, because he fell in love with Azumarill. Surely either Charizard should be changed to Male or Totodile changed to unknown. [[Ash's Totodile|This]] is what i mean, there is a lack of consistency with genders here. ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 10:20, 10 November 2008 (UTC))
:I agree. There should be consistency. Therefore I'll change Totodile to Unknown until someone has solid evidence that it's male. I mean, we have strict guidelines for Ash's Pikachu despite Dawn's Buneary be confirmed female. So should his other Pokémon. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 10:23, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Charizard I think deserves to be called a Male in the page because he has fallen in love with a female pokemon with a bow on it's head and has the name "Charla", what more proof do you need he is male. Honestly I wish that some people on this site had brains for this. [[User:WolfMan of Light|De Wolfy is here]] 14:19, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

:Charla is obviously a crossdresser. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 14:22, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

::Well getting back to planet earth for a second I don't think that is going to happen in pokemon (James does not count since he does this often enough with Jessie). I mean it is so obvious. If Gayness is looked down upon then how do you think romance is looked upon in the anime. Apparently most of Ash's pokemon are classed as things simply for being in love with a female pokemon but all female pokemon have to do to be classed as female is be in love with a male character (or in Bayleef's case Ash) or even just wear flowers or whatever. [[User:WolfMan of Light|De Wolfy is here]] 23:21, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

== We obviously need to discuss which image we want in the article. ==

I can see obviously that the image keeps changing. My vote would be [[a:Image:AG340.jpg|this]], because it actually shows it is Ash's Charizard. While [[a:Image:Ash's Charizard.jpg|this]] and [[a:Image:Ash_charizard.jpg|this]] could be any Charizard. Yes, I am very aware of the image title already states who the Charizard belongs to, but people should see who the Charizard belongs to just by looking at the image. 13:56, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm the one who put the one with Ash in it, but the current pic has great quality, so I'm content--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 14:00, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Dragon Rage ==

The note in trivia on when the move dragon rage was first used by Ash's Charizard is wrong and I have tried to change it but everytime I do it gets changed back. Watch episode 112 enter the dragonite. Charizard uses it there and there might even be a time before then when he does. --[[User:Pazusalmon|Pazusalmon]] 23:43, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
:The trivia is saying that it first used '''{{m|Dragonbreath}}''' in the battle with Gary. Infact, Dragon Rage was used even before [[EP112]]. That was used in [[EP105]] when Charizard begins to trust Ash. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:47, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Shouldn't we mke the pics a gallery--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:24, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
:What pics? You mean the four we have in the article? I honestly think we need more to make a gallery. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 18:37, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

== Edit War ==

Alright, we're ending this right now. Edit warring is '''strictly''' frowned upon here at Bulbapedia. So why don't we discuss here which screenshot is better?

Personally, I think the one with Charizard preparing to battle is a better screenshot. Why? Because Charizard takes up the entire photo. Yes, you can see Ash in it, but does that really matter? Many of Ash's Pokémon ({{AP|Corphish}}, {{AP|Heracross}}) don't have screenshots that contain him. Why is this one any different? --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 14:34, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Heracross does! But u destroyed the gallery--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 14:35, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

:I'm sorry for doing that, but I needed to stop the immature edit war that was going on. And Heracross doesn't, I just looked at the article. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 14:37, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

The original head pi, from Ka Boom with A View--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 14:38, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
:I agree with PAK Man, the one without Ash looks a lot better. I personally can't believe there is an edit war yet again on this article. Why is this article a source for edit wars? I don't know, but I really think it has to end. If I were an admin, I also would have protected the article, because I really hate edit wars, we have a discussion page for a reason. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 15:07, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
::I vote for the one with both Ash and Charizard. The one when it is getting ready for battle is hunched over and distorted. The animation in that episode wasnt good in the first place,, and that pose doesnt help. Plus, this shows how big charizard is compared to Ash. [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 15:08, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Could anyone remove that Charmeleon pic? It really has poor quality. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[User:Jmath/Sandbox|'''th''']] 20:22, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

== Zippo ==
why does it say Zippo's a Charizard? ---Sk8torchic
:Manga.--[[Blastoise (Pokémon)|K]][[Gary's Blastoise|kl]][[Blastoise (TCG)|l]][[User:Kkllnn|nn]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| blastoise]] 20:43, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

== "Useless" ==

Under "Trivia" it says "When it was a Charmeleon, it was one of the few (if only) Pokemon that Ash deliberately insulted. He called it "useless" in Attack of the Prehistoric Pokemon. (dub only)" When I heard him say this, I understood it to mean that it was useless to try giving orders to Charmeleon. [[User:Bardock|Bar]][[User_Talk:Bardock|dock]] 02:34, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
:It also forgets the é and a not in-between if and only (I fixed it now, but whoever added it needs to work on their style). I don't watch the anime, but if it's false, go ahead and remove it. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 02:39, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Ash's Bulbasaur

2008-12-12T14:33:24Z

WolfMan of Light:

==Bulbasaur's Dig==
In an Animé Episode, at Professor Oak's lab, Bulbasaur used Dig to avoid being hit by a gigantic boulder that would have killed him. ~PokéSensei

Yeah then everyone was shocked and Oak explained that pokemon may be able to use moves that they cannot learn in life threatening situations.

Bulbasaur can also use Whirlwind, Ash's Bulbasaur has quite a lot of unusable moves that normal Bulbasaur cannot use.

==VA Question==
Does anybody know for sure if Tara Jayne still plays Ash's Bulbasaur? In all of Bulbasaur's recent episodes, she's been absent from the credits, and I think she moved out to LA. -[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]]

== Bulbasaur's voice ==

Tara Jayne's old recordings from Season 1-6 were used and then Michelle Knotz started to voice it starting from [[AG188]]

== Tickle? ==

But, if I'm not mistaken, Ash only asked Bulbasaur to Tickle Psyduck, and not exactly, use Tickle attack. I'm confused! [[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|Agent]] [[User talk:Optimus35|#]][[User:Optimus35/Mission|4]][[Lucario (anime)|4]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|8]][[User:Optimus35/Manual of style|♂]]''' [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&Pearl|DP]] | [[User:Optimus35/Emerald|E]] | [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Optimus35&namespace=0&year=&month=-1 ☆][[Image:Ani282MS.gif]] 10:00, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:Well, yes, but Tickle later became a move... not exactly sure if it's a {{m|Shadow Ball}}-like prediction, but eh. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:23, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

== Um, Houston, we got a problem! ==
Some template on Ash's Bulbasaur page is mizing everything up! The Bulbapedia 'Search' Bar is small and below the article, and your user page, talk page, and watchlist, etc. buttons on the top right are super small. Last time this happened, it was on all of May's Pokémon's pages, being cause by the ''May's Pokémon template''. --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Sandbox|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 14:15, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

:Yep, it's the [[Template:Ash's Pokémon]] that's the problem. Though......I don't know how to fix it....--[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Sandbox|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 14:17, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

== Solar Beam ==

Petty as this detail is, is it worth mentioning that since the movesets have changed for DP, and solarbeam has been replaced by seed bomb, that Bulbasaur should no longer have been able to learn solarbeam naturally?

:For starters, it's {{m|Solarbeam}}. One word, one capital letter. The translation teams for {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}} messed up when case-sensitizing stuff, leaving certain letters capital when they should have been lowercase--it's always been and always will be Solarbeam, not Solar Beam, SolarBeam, or stuff like that. A lowercase should NEVER be followed by a capital except in a proper name; Solarbeam isn't a proper name. [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Mystery Dungeon 1]] case-sensitized the move names correctly, and there's no way the mistakes from Diamond and Pearl's case-sensitizing are going to stick.

:Anyway, Pokémon aren't going to just forget moves because the movesets change. {{p|Bulbasaur}} learned Solarbeam in a [[Generation I]] episode, and Bulbasaur was able to learn Solarbeam naturally at the time. The fact that Bulbasaur can't learn Solarbeam naturally in [[Generation IV]] doesn't change that. And given that Pokémon have learned [[TM]] moves through bull**** methods in the anime, I highly doubt we need that notation. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

::Okay, thanks for clearing that up but you kind of misunderstood my point - it was a trivial point and I was just saying that technically they can't learn it anymore, not that they should get rid of the move (that would just be stupid)
And sorry about mispelling Solarbeam the first time and not capitalising it the other times - that was just a mistake seeing as this is supposed to be informal and it was just mean as a quick question.
--[[Image:Ani002MS.gif|XXpx]]☆[[User:Woodland Mudkip|Woodland:M]] ☆[[Image:Ani001MS.gif|XXpx]] 15:02, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
::Pikablu, it's SolarBeam. The CamelCase is something that happens sometimes, especially with moves like {{m|AncientPower}}, which takes up the limit (I think... what ''IS'' the character limit for move names?).
::Anyway, no it's not really notable trivia. Remember, a Gen III Bulbasaur can still have it, and that Bulbasaur came from beforehand. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:15, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

== Lick? ==

When?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 16:51, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

==Gender?==
I'm 100% sure that since Mays was female Ash's is male [[User:ShinyMedicham]]
:Most people are, but ''as political correctness is careening out of control''... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:49, 9 June 2008 (UT

In the Johto episodes Tara Jayne seems to use a higher voice for Bulbasaur than before suggesting she herself is unsure. Also I've heard Bulbasaur for whatever reason is associated with homosexuality so its love for May's could be a same sex one. {{Unsigned|Z-Morg}}
:Ash's Bulbasaur is pretty masculine so I think it's intended as male. But like most of these articles, it just isn't confirmed yet. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:45, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I believe Ash's Bulbasaur is indeed male. {{Unsigned|Venustoise}}

:Yes but fans believing it's male and the anime coming out and saying it, are two different things. So it can't be verified until it is stated. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 23:49, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
::do they ACTUALLY NEED TO SAY IT like your never going to hear ash say that "hey guys my bulbasaur is a guy/male" its just dumb and random thats why they make mays bulbasaur a female and hav a connection iwith ashs bulbasuar so they can hint at us instead of having them actually say it like seroius. and wtf homosexualty why wud they do that lol thats so dumb z-morg....wow[[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
:::Yeah, keep your opinions to yourself. [[Harley|HARLEY]]!! There's all the proof you need. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 18:47, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
::::keep my opinions to myself wut the hell?? im making a point on the friggin talk page so why wud i keep it to myself??think before u post bro [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
:::::Saying how stupid to think that gays can't be in Pokémon is not helping. Talk page comments are to help the article not express your opinions. Go to the damn forum to do that. And I'm not your "bro". I'm a girl. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:43, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::im not saying how stupid it is im basically trying to say that it doesnt really make sense.

oi wait my bad i thgouht harley was a real person .wow im an idiot[[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]

Sorry to say, Kenji-girl, but I believe Ritchie does have a strong point. Heck, [[Ash's Butterfree]] is considered a male, and it has a female mate. The same case with Bulbasaur and we don't consider ''him'' a male. Besides, why would they make Bulbasaur a homosexual, the only homosexual in the show is probably Harley, and the only transvestite is probably [[James]], considering the banned episode. I believe that homosexuality thing is not likely. I rest my case. {{u|Venustoise}}
:Butterfree is only confirmed male because he was called "he". Bulbasaur wasn't. We need to remain nutral. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:08, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Considering that "he" is a default name for any animal that has an unknown gender, there is no excuse. {{u|Venustoise}}
:They call some Pokémon '''IT'''. tc26 22:49, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
::Good point, but they may have just assumed it was a male since it had a crush on a seemed to be female counterpart because it was pink. Although it is proven that Butterfree is a male, (such is the case with Bulbasaur) calling it a he does not verify it's gender, also because 4Kids makes edits that aren't in the Japanese version. May I remind you that May's Venusaur has a seed on the tree on her back, that gives absolute proof that it's a female. Although they have made a person ([[Harley]]) a homosexual, they never have confirmed that a Pokemon is a homosexual. Besides Bulbasaur has a alphamale personality, and shows leadership, bravery, protectiveness, and other qualities that male dominant animals share. If it was a homosexual, then it would've acted like one, am I right? {{u|Venustoise}}
:::I never said Bulbasaur was not male. I was just contradicting your previous statement. tc26 23:12, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Sorry for the misinformation, but after I finished talking about Butterfree which I was talking to you about it, I switched the topic to Bulbasaur, I was then talking to Kenji-Girl. Also, Totodile and Sceptile are males, too, and their situation is also the same with Bulbasaur, and they're considered male. And in the games, there is no homosexuality between Pokemon, by the way, yeah, there's not a connection between the games and the anime, but the japanese version goes mostly how the games go, but it's transffered into an anime, and considering that 4Kids doesn't know crap about the games, (such as Arbok evolving into Seviper), they undo the edits so that there is no exact proof. {{u|Venustoise}}
::::I also think the creators don't want to teach having two genders in one to children. tc26 23:38, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Exactly my point! There is enough proof that Ash's Bulbasaur is indeed male. Like Ritchie said, why would they just say out of nowhere that Bulbasaur is male, it doesn't have to be confirmed, you can just tell by Bulbasaur's manly personality and relationship with May's female Bulbasaur. We're being too overly protective of this that it's ridiculous, that's why I'll step in and change the unknown gender for the third time, and given the evidence I gave to back it up, I highly doubt anyone will stop me. {{u|Venustoise}}

Oh, c'mon you guys are being way too weeny! I admit, I am a very stubborn type, but this is absolute nonsense! {{u|Venustoise}}

:This how Bulbapedia works no gender unless confirmed! Read the Manual--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 23:58, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

::Not only to what CoolPikachu said, but ''we're'' being too weeny? Half the arguments you gave could point also to a female Bulbasaur. I mean an alpha male, there is such a thing as an alpha female. Just saying. It really doesn't matter.[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]'' 00:09, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Just because [[May's Venusaur]] is female doesn't automatically mean Bulbasaur is male. VineShipping is completely fanon; Bulbasaur might be female and just good friends with Venusaur. - [[User talk:SpontaneousCombusken|s.]][[User:SpontaneousCombusken|'''Combusken''']] 01:13, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm letting you all know now. Label Bulbasaur is male again on the article and I'm protecting it just like Ash's Charizard. And stop using the damn excuse of May's female Bulbasaur. Was there concrete proof that they were in love? NO! This isn't even about homosexuality right now. There isn't even proof that it was in love with May's Bulbasaur so grow up already. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:44, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Kenji-Girl, I know you're trying to get the point across, but the way you said it, dang. I get it now, gosh!

Also, I haven't thought of them ever being good friends, though. I don't know anything about relations, LOLz! {{u|Venustoise}}

:ok kenji-girl if your saying that we cant use the excuse of may's bulbasaur and all then how come Ash's Sceptile is confirmed to be a male after it like a meganium?? u even said that ...[[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
::First of all, I'm not the one who said Sceptile was male. Someone else put that in. Second of all, Sceptile was, with out a doubt, in love with that Meganium. There is still no solid evidence of Ash's and May's Bulbasaur being in love with each other. If you have a problem with Sceptile being male, I'll go ahead and remove it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:42, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

::OMG another article where people don't know a pokemon's gender. Come on people May's bulbasaur liked it a lot and it is classfied as a female so what other proof do you need. Except in Harley I have never seen any bits of homosexuality.

Talk:Ash's Totodile

2008-12-12T14:28:39Z

WolfMan of Light: /* Gender */

Are you sure Tony Anselmo plays the voice of Totodile? Other than imdb.com and Wikipedia, nothing I've found (including Pokemon's credits) says that he's a voice actor with the show. -PAK Man

:Well, that's what Wikipedia's article on Totodile says.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 17:44, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

::The only problem with Wikipedia is that anybody can contribute to it. This is also the web site that says Carlos Alazraqui was a voice actor on Pokémon, when his website never says he was. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]]

:It also doesn't make sense. I mean, everything else he's done has been for Disney - why would he voice Totodile for 4Kids? Besides, he's not the only person who can do a voice like Donald Duck - even if it's a difficult voice to imitate. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 01:40, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Totodile's voice ==

Totodile sounds like {{wp|Clarence Nash}} Donald Duck's original voice
:Well I can assure you that he does not voice him. Some one also thought that he voiced it too. But you have to realize that practically anyone can make their voice sound like Donald Duck's. Realize that Donald has probably had three different VA's by now and they all do his voice the same. Totodile just was made to have a "Donald Duck-like" voice. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]][[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]] 22:22, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
::Gah, I'm so sick of people saying Donald Duck plays Totodile. People, there is '''''NO''''' possible way that Totodile is voiced by Clarence Nash, Tony Anselmo, or any other Disney voice actor. Disney, if I recall correctly, records all of their voices in California. Pokémon is dubbed in New York. And Maddie Blaustein stated on the Serebii forums that, although she doesn't know who played Totodile, she assured everyone that it wasn't Donald Duck. Also, point out to me where Nash or Anselmo has been credited in Pokémon. The only places I see that are Wikipedia, IMDB and TV.com (which is one of the most inaccurate sites out there when it comes to voice actors. I told the editor that some of his voice actor information was wrong, and he told me it wasn't), all sites which people can contribute freely to. Also, for the record, Carlos Alazraqui '''did not''' play the Magikarp salesman, Jhonin Vasquez '''did not''' play Professor Nanba, and neither Matt Mitler or Jason Marsden has played Gary Oak. And Philip Bartlett wasn't the narrator, either. :sigh: It's as simple as just reading the credits.
::By the way, sorry if this post seemed a little angry. I'm just so mad at people who hear one rumor about a voice actor and then post it everywhere else claiming it's true. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 00:05, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Also Nash couldn't of voiced Totodile because he died 22 years ago. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]][[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]] 02:42, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
::::Another good point. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 03:35, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

== Bill Rogers ==

Do you think Bill Rogers will voice Totodile?

== Incorrect credits ==

Voice Actors .com said that [[Rachael Lillis]] voiced Charmander it is not true someone should fix that and make it [[Michael Haighney]] and [[Bella Hudson]] did not voice [[Officer Jenny]] [[Jamie Davyous Owens]] did and also it said that [[Lisa Ortiz]] voiced [[Chikorita]] and its evolutions [[Mika Kanai]] did not Ortiz and I think Birnbaum does voice Bellsprout because if you listen really closely it sort of sounds like [[Jessie's Dustox]] {{unsigned|Livinlarge18}}

:Well, that's they're problem, not ours. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 03:45, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

===Gender===
Is Totodile a confirmed male? '''''DCM'''''

:As far as we know, yes. [[EP153|''Love, Totodile Style'']] had Totodile fall head over heels for a confirmed-female {{p|Azumarill}} who eventually shunned him for a {{p|Golduck}}. There was also the minor matter of a likely-female {{p|Quagsire}} at the end of the episode. This means that, unless it's a lesbian (which is highly unlikely, as the only confirmed non-straight in the anime is [[Harley]]), it's male. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:19, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
::When was it confirmed that Harley is gay? [[User:Pokeman21|Pokeman21]] 15:34, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
:::You are forgetting that we have strict regualtions for Ash's Pikachu even though Dawn's Buneary was consider female. It should be the same with all of his Pokémon. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 10:27, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Is it like this everywhere honestly is romance something that is looked upon so likely in the anime with all of Ash's pokemon being called things simply because pee-brained people can't admit proof when they see it. I mean Ash's Pikachu is loved by Dawn's Buneary but of course it is a thing still or perhaps a lesbien, then there is poor Totodile who fell in love with an Azumarill but alas is called still a thing and of course poor Charizard is being called a thing still simply for falling in love with Charla.

::::Why is it when the female pokemon do something like wear a dress or even fall in love with a male pokemon (or in Bayleef's case Ash himself) then they are automatically classed as female. Honestly people get a brain cell [[User:WolfMan of Light|De Wolfy is here]] 14:26, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

== [[Kayzie Rogers]] ==

Can anyone prove Rogers does the voice of Totodile he sounds nothing like any of her other voices [[User:Livinlarge18|Livinlarge18]] 14:15, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well, that user claiming to be Kayzie added a whole slew of roles that only Kayzie would have known. Plus, at the same time she was updating Bulbapedia, she updated Wikipedia with the same information, stating that she was indeed Kayzie. She also corrected some credits here, and confirmed that it was Jerry Lobozzo that played Dr. Quackenpoker. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 14:58, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
::Seriously? And {{u|Porygon-Z}} said "That was a gang-raped bitch-slapped piece of crap" on one of her edits that he undid. Hopefully she didn't see that. XD That could possibly look bad for us. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 03:58, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Considering she hasn't been here since April, I think she only came to correct her credits and leave. She said on her [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:KayzieRogers Wikipedia User Page] that she's sick of all the rumors about her characters, so she decided to set the records straight. I've noticed Maddie Blaustein, Stuart Zagnit and Mike Pollock have also updated their Wikipedia credits as well (or at least people claiming to be them). --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 04:25, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Well, I know Maddie does (or did) go on BMGf from time to time... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:30, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Also, I think he meant her edit, which was a monster with NO LINK TEMPLATES *cries* '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:33, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Ash's Totodile

2008-12-12T14:26:45Z

WolfMan of Light:

Are you sure Tony Anselmo plays the voice of Totodile? Other than imdb.com and Wikipedia, nothing I've found (including Pokemon's credits) says that he's a voice actor with the show. -PAK Man

:Well, that's what Wikipedia's article on Totodile says.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 17:44, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

::The only problem with Wikipedia is that anybody can contribute to it. This is also the web site that says Carlos Alazraqui was a voice actor on Pokémon, when his website never says he was. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]]

:It also doesn't make sense. I mean, everything else he's done has been for Disney - why would he voice Totodile for 4Kids? Besides, he's not the only person who can do a voice like Donald Duck - even if it's a difficult voice to imitate. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 01:40, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Totodile's voice ==

Totodile sounds like {{wp|Clarence Nash}} Donald Duck's original voice
:Well I can assure you that he does not voice him. Some one also thought that he voiced it too. But you have to realize that practically anyone can make their voice sound like Donald Duck's. Realize that Donald has probably had three different VA's by now and they all do his voice the same. Totodile just was made to have a "Donald Duck-like" voice. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]][[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]] 22:22, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
::Gah, I'm so sick of people saying Donald Duck plays Totodile. People, there is '''''NO''''' possible way that Totodile is voiced by Clarence Nash, Tony Anselmo, or any other Disney voice actor. Disney, if I recall correctly, records all of their voices in California. Pokémon is dubbed in New York. And Maddie Blaustein stated on the Serebii forums that, although she doesn't know who played Totodile, she assured everyone that it wasn't Donald Duck. Also, point out to me where Nash or Anselmo has been credited in Pokémon. The only places I see that are Wikipedia, IMDB and TV.com (which is one of the most inaccurate sites out there when it comes to voice actors. I told the editor that some of his voice actor information was wrong, and he told me it wasn't), all sites which people can contribute freely to. Also, for the record, Carlos Alazraqui '''did not''' play the Magikarp salesman, Jhonin Vasquez '''did not''' play Professor Nanba, and neither Matt Mitler or Jason Marsden has played Gary Oak. And Philip Bartlett wasn't the narrator, either. :sigh: It's as simple as just reading the credits.
::By the way, sorry if this post seemed a little angry. I'm just so mad at people who hear one rumor about a voice actor and then post it everywhere else claiming it's true. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 00:05, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Also Nash couldn't of voiced Totodile because he died 22 years ago. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]][[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]] 02:42, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
::::Another good point. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 03:35, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

== Bill Rogers ==

Do you think Bill Rogers will voice Totodile?

== Incorrect credits ==

Voice Actors .com said that [[Rachael Lillis]] voiced Charmander it is not true someone should fix that and make it [[Michael Haighney]] and [[Bella Hudson]] did not voice [[Officer Jenny]] [[Jamie Davyous Owens]] did and also it said that [[Lisa Ortiz]] voiced [[Chikorita]] and its evolutions [[Mika Kanai]] did not Ortiz and I think Birnbaum does voice Bellsprout because if you listen really closely it sort of sounds like [[Jessie's Dustox]] {{unsigned|Livinlarge18}}

:Well, that's they're problem, not ours. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 03:45, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

===Gender===
Is Totodile a confirmed male? '''''DCM'''''

:As far as we know, yes. [[EP153|''Love, Totodile Style'']] had Totodile fall head over heels for a confirmed-female {{p|Azumarill}} who eventually shunned him for a {{p|Golduck}}. There was also the minor matter of a likely-female {{p|Quagsire}} at the end of the episode. This means that, unless it's a lesbian (which is highly unlikely, as the only confirmed non-straight in the anime is [[Harley]]), it's male. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:19, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
::When was it confirmed that Harley is gay? [[User:Pokeman21|Pokeman21]] 15:34, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
:::You are forgetting that we have strict regualtions for Ash's Pikachu even though Dawn's Buneary was consider female. It should be the same with all of his Pokémon. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 10:27, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Is it like this everywhere honestly is romance something that is looked upon so likely in the anime with all of Ash's pokemon being called things simply because pee-brained people can't admit proof when they see it. I mean Ash's Pikachu is loved by Dawn's Buneary but of course it is a thing still or perhaps a lesbien, then there is poor Totodile who fell in love with an Azumarill but alas is called still a thing and of course poor Charizard is being called a thing still simply for falling in love with Charla.

Why is it when the female pokemon do something like wear a dress or even fall in love with a male pokemon (or in Bayleef's case Ash himself) then they are automatically classed as female. Honestly people get a brain cell [[User:WolfMan of Light|De Wolfy is here]] 14:26, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

== [[Kayzie Rogers]] ==

Can anyone prove Rogers does the voice of Totodile he sounds nothing like any of her other voices [[User:Livinlarge18|Livinlarge18]] 14:15, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well, that user claiming to be Kayzie added a whole slew of roles that only Kayzie would have known. Plus, at the same time she was updating Bulbapedia, she updated Wikipedia with the same information, stating that she was indeed Kayzie. She also corrected some credits here, and confirmed that it was Jerry Lobozzo that played Dr. Quackenpoker. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 14:58, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
::Seriously? And {{u|Porygon-Z}} said "That was a gang-raped bitch-slapped piece of crap" on one of her edits that he undid. Hopefully she didn't see that. XD That could possibly look bad for us. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 03:58, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Considering she hasn't been here since April, I think she only came to correct her credits and leave. She said on her [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:KayzieRogers Wikipedia User Page] that she's sick of all the rumors about her characters, so she decided to set the records straight. I've noticed Maddie Blaustein, Stuart Zagnit and Mike Pollock have also updated their Wikipedia credits as well (or at least people claiming to be them). --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 04:25, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Well, I know Maddie does (or did) go on BMGf from time to time... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:30, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Also, I think he meant her edit, which was a monster with NO LINK TEMPLATES *cries* '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:33, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Ash's Charizard/Archive 1

2008-12-12T14:19:59Z

WolfMan of Light:

----

Ash's Charizard used {{m|Submission}} against Magmar during the gym battle with Blaine in Episode 58 or 59.

Basically he just spins around while flying to confuse the opponent before using {{m|Seismic Toss}}. --[[User:cbhadha|cbhadha]] 9:32, 29 June 2007

== Gender ==

What episode was Charizard's gender confirmed? Just curious. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 22:04, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it was a specific episode, I think it's just because it happens to have a crush on a Charizard with a lighter roar than Ash's and a bow on its head. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 23:56, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

:: Ah, just wonderin. ^^; [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 23:58, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

== Released? ==

Well, we don't technically list James's Cacnea as released (so I wonder if we should), but although Ash "released" Charizard, he technically just left it at the Charicific Valley, and it still goes in his Poké Ball without needing to be recaptured. So really, I'm wondering, should Charizard and Squirtle go where Cacnea does? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:20, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
:Hmm, good point. Well, I really think that should be possible. He does return in extreme battles. (like the Elite Four, Pokémon Frontier) So you're right, he isn't gone, and Charizard is still his. Ash just wants Charizard to feel well, and I really think he doesn't see the point of keeping his Pokémon at Oak's lab when there is a whole place for him.{{unsigned|TheBlazikenMaster}}

Yeah I agree because Ash just left him there to train. It's basically leaving you're Pokemon at the Daycare! Because 1. He left it there for training 2. It gets stronger, just like in the daycare and 3. There was never any indication it was released. [[User:Big Johnno|Big Johnno]]

Where the hell did anyone get "released" from? ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 10:23, 10 November 2008 (UTC))

== Charmeleon picture ==

Anyone got a pic of Charmeleon? [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 01:47, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Do we realy nead one? [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 13:18, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
:We have them for Butterfree and Sceptile... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 20:48, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

== Look guys... ==

I don't mean too nag, but Charizard was never confirmed male...Errr...Unless a character refers to it as a "he" constantly, then i think it could be ether gender. I mean, but because it likes [[Charla|another Charizard which is a female]] doesn't mean anything. I mean, Charizard could be a female, and be a lesbian (: I mean, i'm pretty sure Pokémon have sexualities (''as in my LeafGreen (Well it was actually my cousins game but i know he didn't cheat on it or anything!), my male Blaziken and male Charizard came out with a normal Torchic egg xD Glitchy much?'') [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 19:44, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

:Entirely correct. I've removed the gender, and if anyone has a convincing argument that shows that this Charizard is male, I'll be happy to hear it. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 02:04, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah. That was like calling Ash's Bulbasaur a male because it liked May's Bulbasaur who's female (and that isn't even confirmed). I'm thinking, should we recheck Ash's Sceptile? Because that says it's male because of the whole Megainium thing. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 03:19, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

::Woah. I didn't think anyone was actually doing to listen to me and just start arguing...But like, i think a Pokémon's gender is only really conformed if someone goes "Oh you have a male ________" or "female ______" or if their constantly referred too as one gender. E.G. Ash's Pikachu constantly (like every episode) being referred too as He, Him, or His. (: But thats just my outlook on it [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 06:37, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
:::It probably is male but, like most Pokémon genders, that isn't confirmed. We need to start making a hard line here and from the situation with Pikachu, we should stick to "it" unless it is explicitly stated. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:17, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Political correctness much? [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 08:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
I agree
But just to add on I've got some sites here that link him as being male (just to be sure!) [http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Charizard_-_In_the_anime/id/4912154 The First Website] [http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=210680 This one also applies to the hey you have a male____!] {{unsigned|Big Johnno}}
:Oh wow... That totally proves it's male. A fan site... And sign your comments. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 09:34, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

its still serebii! {{unsigned|Big Johnno}}
:Doesn't make it trustworthy. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 09:57, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

meh, try finding proof of charizard being female. come on I Dare You!
:And now it's getting out of hand. All for making Charizard, Pikachu, and pretty much everyone on Ash's team male, say aye. Honestly, if we're using the "OH LOL CHARIZARD MIGHT BE A LESBIAN" argument... come on. I'm as supportive of homosexuality as anyone else in their right mind, but really, if we have to wait for Charla to show up and hand Dawn a Charmander egg... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
::-_-' There is still no logical proof as charizard appeared before '''GENII'''. Which showed Genders for the first time, Now charizard being a First Gen Pokémon, The creators had no Idea About its gender, But there is still no proof, I mean Charmander could've been a girl before even turning into a Charmeleon, And as a Charmeleon it was a Boy, And so on, There is lot's of theory about Chari's gender. Oh yeah, Sign your Frikkin' Comments --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 10:10, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:::No proof of any Pokémon's gender. If the freaking gender differences shown by a Pokémon that itself debuted before Gen IV (I'm talking that damned Venusaur now) isn't big enough of a hint for everyone that they ''do'' apply in the anime, I don't know what is, Pikachu's dong slipping into a shot or something? Look, here's a hint. If Misty comes back with Gyarados and IT HAS WHITE WHISKERS (as they were blue before) then undoubtedly, completely, we ''must say'' that Ash's Pikachu is male, Jessie's Wobbuffet is male, and so on. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:19, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
::::It's pathetic. Change back to Male, honestly, this is ridiculous. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 10:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::I agree that it should be stated to be a male unless somebody can prove it's gay. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 10:57, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

::::::Ok so everyone on Ash's team is Male. [[User:Crystallucario|~'''Crystal''']][[User talk:Crystallucario|~'''Lucario~''']] 11:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::This discussion isn't over until the page is unprotected. And it's up to an admin to do so. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 11:11, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Look...It shouldn't be assumed Male just because theres no proof what gender it is. It's just sexist saying all Ash's Pokémon are male. |: Gender difference shouldn't count as that was in Gen4, and Charizard is from Gen1/The first Pokémon seasons/whatever. |: [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 15:26, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

:Okay, yeah most likely Charizard is male. But being that there are some people that feel that it could be otherwise, maybe we should leave it as unknown until it is 100% confirmed. I mean Pikachu has just as much evidence that it is male as Charizard and yet we still refuse to call it that. It's a little hypocritical.

:Oh yeah, and I don't like ignorant bastards calling others dumbasses for thinking differently! You know, people who are that uncomfortable about homosexuality are usually trying to hide their own homosexual feelings. *snap* --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:08, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
::Well, I understand that, the word "gay" is often used in a negative way. I still think it's male, but you're right it's not 100% confirmed. When exactly do any of you plan to unlock this page? Just curious... [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 20:18, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
::Some people think differently? Who ''seriously'' thinks that, unlike about ''Pikachu'', which I'm about ready to say "throw that crap out the window" because it wouldn't matter if they '''''showed Pikachu's dong on TV''''' to them. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Saying that Charizard is "Gen I" doesn't make much of a difference since Gen II was already in development at the time the anime was created (Ho-Oh ''was'' in the first episode, after all). So the animators may have already had a grasp on genders even before Gen IV introduced physical differences. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:25, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

::::Honestly, I'm not against homosexuality(my sister has a friend that is gay), but Charizard has to be male, at least in the American version because, they aren't going to promote homosexuality in a show aimed at kids. [[User:Pokeman21|Pokeman21]] 19:38, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::[[Harley|Uh-huh]]. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:43, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Ok, this is really stupid. I actually want to edit the page. but i cant cuz of this whole arguement. didnt we agree to be neutral about this stuff? we dont know its gender until it is stated in the original. its same thing with Pikachu or whatever other Pokemon is highly speculated. so can the protection finally end? [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 23:57, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

:And why does this conversation always have to end up being about homosexuality and Harley?? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:10, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
::I really agree. Who cares whether or not Charizard is homosexual? I really think this silly discussion should end today. I don't know about the rest of you but I personally don't care if the Charizard is a homosexual or straight. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 00:17, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

:::I second that motion. I'm all for gays on television, but this series will hardly do anything for the community. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:39, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

::::Okay, so shall we keep it unknown until we see Misty's Gyarados back with white whiskers? Or the Pink Butterfree with black wingdots? Misty ''has'' to return SOMETIME during DP... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:03, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::I'd rather vote on keeping it male until the homosexuality has been proven, but I'm voting for unknown instead. Whatever makes the page unprotected. It's bad enough that I can't edit my crappy user page, if the protection will still be here several weeks from when I'm posting this, it will be WAY too out-of-date. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 00:37, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

The page has been unprotected either today or yesterday, I can't remember which. Either way, I ''highly'' doubt that this Charizard is gay. People just want to make it as a possibility because no one ever said what the gender is in the series. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:10, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
:You're right, I didn't notice, sorry about that. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 01:28, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
::I vote we put Charizard as Male because they are not going to promote homosexuality in a show aimed at kids, at least, not in the American Dub. [[User:Pokeman21|Pokeman21]] 22:35, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
:::We aren't voting on anything! It stays as Unknown. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 02:38, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::::I still think it's ridiculous to find homosexuality a possibility. I'd like to see another more realistic reason why it stays unknown. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 11:08, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

It stays unknown until an anime character calls it a male or refers to it as a "he". ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:48, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:ok so your going to wait until the episode when charizard returns and ash be like "hey guys its charizard...did u guys know hes a male" lol ''...not going to happen...'' look there never going to do stuff like that and u know it , if they were to have said something it should be on the episode when ash caught it or sometime after but since it didnt u should look at its personalities like ..the writers are trying to hint at all of us that charizards a male by giving it male personalities ..there never going to confirm it...i know bulbapedia is strict bout this stuff but u cant just let it be unknown even after the show ends.. [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
::To put it simply, YES. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:05, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I too think this is rediculous, there's no chance he's homosexual in a kids show. I think it should be changed to Male. ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 10:00, 10 November 2008 (UTC))
:Sigh.... And yet we have Harley... --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 10:05, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

I know about Harley, but [[Ash's Totodile]] is listed as Male for the same reason, because he fell in love with Azumarill. Surely either Charizard should be changed to Male or Totodile changed to unknown. [[Ash's Totodile|This]] is what i mean, there is a lack of consistency with genders here. ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 10:20, 10 November 2008 (UTC))
:I agree. There should be consistency. Therefore I'll change Totodile to Unknown until someone has solid evidence that it's male. I mean, we have strict guidelines for Ash's Pikachu despite Dawn's Buneary be confirmed female. So should his other Pokémon. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 10:23, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Charizard I think deserves to be called a Male in the page because he has fallen in love with a female pokemon with a bow on it's head and has the name "Charla", what more proof do you need he is male. Honestly I wish that some people on this site had brains for this. [[User:WolfMan of Light|De Wolfy is here]] 14:19, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

== We obviously need to discuss which image we want in the article. ==

I can see obviously that the image keeps changing. My vote would be [[a:Image:AG340.jpg|this]], because it actually shows it is Ash's Charizard. While [[a:Image:Ash's Charizard.jpg|this]] and [[a:Image:Ash_charizard.jpg|this]] could be any Charizard. Yes, I am very aware of the image title already states who the Charizard belongs to, but people should see who the Charizard belongs to just by looking at the image. 13:56, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm the one who put the one with Ash in it, but the current pic has great quality, so I'm content--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 14:00, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Dragon Rage ==

The note in trivia on when the move dragon rage was first used by Ash's Charizard is wrong and I have tried to change it but everytime I do it gets changed back. Watch episode 112 enter the dragonite. Charizard uses it there and there might even be a time before then when he does. --[[User:Pazusalmon|Pazusalmon]] 23:43, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
:The trivia is saying that it first used '''{{m|Dragonbreath}}''' in the battle with Gary. Infact, Dragon Rage was used even before [[EP112]]. That was used in [[EP105]] when Charizard begins to trust Ash. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:47, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Shouldn't we mke the pics a gallery--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:24, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
:What pics? You mean the four we have in the article? I honestly think we need more to make a gallery. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 18:37, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

== Edit War ==

Alright, we're ending this right now. Edit warring is '''strictly''' frowned upon here at Bulbapedia. So why don't we discuss here which screenshot is better?

Personally, I think the one with Charizard preparing to battle is a better screenshot. Why? Because Charizard takes up the entire photo. Yes, you can see Ash in it, but does that really matter? Many of Ash's Pokémon ({{AP|Corphish}}, {{AP|Heracross}}) don't have screenshots that contain him. Why is this one any different? --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 14:34, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Heracross does! But u destroyed the gallery--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 14:35, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

:I'm sorry for doing that, but I needed to stop the immature edit war that was going on. And Heracross doesn't, I just looked at the article. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 14:37, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

The original head pi, from Ka Boom with A View--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 14:38, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
:I agree with PAK Man, the one without Ash looks a lot better. I personally can't believe there is an edit war yet again on this article. Why is this article a source for edit wars? I don't know, but I really think it has to end. If I were an admin, I also would have protected the article, because I really hate edit wars, we have a discussion page for a reason. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 15:07, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
::I vote for the one with both Ash and Charizard. The one when it is getting ready for battle is hunched over and distorted. The animation in that episode wasnt good in the first place,, and that pose doesnt help. Plus, this shows how big charizard is compared to Ash. [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 15:08, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Could anyone remove that Charmeleon pic? It really has poor quality. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[User:Jmath/Sandbox|'''th''']] 20:22, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

== Zippo ==
why does it say Zippo's a Charizard? ---Sk8torchic
:Manga.--[[Blastoise (Pokémon)|K]][[Gary's Blastoise|kl]][[Blastoise (TCG)|l]][[User:Kkllnn|nn]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| blastoise]] 20:43, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

== "Useless" ==

Under "Trivia" it says "When it was a Charmeleon, it was one of the few (if only) Pokemon that Ash deliberately insulted. He called it "useless" in Attack of the Prehistoric Pokemon. (dub only)" When I heard him say this, I understood it to mean that it was useless to try giving orders to Charmeleon. [[User:Bardock|Bar]][[User_Talk:Bardock|dock]] 02:34, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
:It also forgets the é and a not in-between if and only (I fixed it now, but whoever added it needs to work on their style). I don't watch the anime, but if it's false, go ahead and remove it. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 02:39, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Legendary beasts

2008-12-10T18:05:28Z

WolfMan of Light: /* Dogs or Cats */

Some accounts I have heard simply state that Raikou, Entei and Suicune were, after their immolation, simply resurrected, not reincarnated. If that's the case, then they were Entei, Suicune and Raikou BEFORE the disaster, and so not CREATED by Ho-Oh - just related to him by the ordeal of these three individuals. I have no citation, so I did not add this to the article. [[User:SixthFlyingMan|SixthFlyingMan]] 09:28, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

:Meh, speculation is speculation. Can't do much with it. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 15:09, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

== Dogs or Cats ==

I think that personally the beasts deserve to be called dogs more simple because each of them bears a resemblance to a dog, Suicune I think is the most because of his face and body shape. Raikou defeneatly has a canine body but a more cat looking face with it's teeth making him look like a saber tooth tiger. Entei looks about the most cat like I think it looks like a giant cat or lion kind of thing.

Calling them the legendary dogs is not really a correct term and is more of just an opinion. in my opinion, i like the idea of legendary cats better, but calling them the legendary beasts is more of a correct and collective term. Raikou in no way looks like a canine. Suicune has a lean canine body but has small cat feet, and Entei has a dog body but has a lion's face. So, legendary beasts is a better grouped term to call the trio considering that at least suicune and entei look part canine and part feline; as well as the fact that some people see more canine features in their anatomy while others see more feline features in their anatomy. --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 23:46, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

I know I was just wondering what everyone else thought, I think it is a good term for keeping the peace in pokemon. Something sorely needed since the whole voice change over thing. [[User:WolfMan of Light|De Wolfy is here]] 18:05, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Ash Ketchum/Featured article candidate/Nomination 1

2008-12-07T21:40:25Z

WolfMan of Light:

====Support (13)====
*Definitely one of the best on Bulbapedia. Very complete, interesting, etc. Easily as good as, if not better than the [[Legendary Pokemon]] and [[Poké Ball]] articles. '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 00:55, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

*Amazing character, amazing article. Better than Brock. I completly agree on this one. '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|P]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|L]][[User:Pachirisulover12/Trade Shop|1]][[User:Pachirisulover12/Discharge Gym|2]]''' 12:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

*Yes, I definitely think the Ash Ketchum article deserves to be a featured article. It's very worthy of earning this award! And I'm saying this not only because Ash is my favorite character, but also because this is an '''AMAZING''' article overall! It's very informative, it's interesting, and it actually explains just about everything there is to know about the character. And in my opinion, you could not find a better character to be featured. Ash, the main character truly deserves this honor!! ^_^ [[User:PokemonTrainerLisa|PokemonTrainerLisa]] 09:36, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

*This is a nice article. Very comprehensive, although somewhat a bit erratic, but it's nicely made. I give it two thumbs up. [[User:JirachiWishmaker0802|JirachiWishmaker0802]]

*Great article, very complete. Best article Bulbapedia has to offer. GO ASH!! [[User:Flame alex|Flame alex]]

*Good Article very well put but needs to fixed in some place(trivia and etc..)--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 22:13, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

*'''support''' its definately one of the best and informative articles on BP, also DCM i dont think you can say it shouldnt be nominated because YOU find the character boring, thats nothing to do with the quality of the article. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:47, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

* A '''Brilliant''' article so much information. Its very informative and can easily fill in a person who has never seen he anime before. It's very intresting it explains everything fully and who's better to be a featured article than the main character? I think the Trivia section is great even though everyone else dislikes it. Trivia's fun and intresting, why get rid of it?--[[User:David aipom|Davidaipom]] 10:07, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

*Of course this page should be a featured article, as Ash is the main character of the Show. [[User:ShinyPikachu|§hin¥£iΨ@chµ]] 17:49, 1 November 2008 (UTC):P

*Include all the Pokémon he has, even unheard-of ones like Seaking is included. Detailed information, especially with his character development.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 06:52, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

*An awesome article, very enjoyable to read and understand about the character --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|''Fire'']] 07:11, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

*A great article! Yeah! Just shows you the greatness of Bulbapedia! This article put a smile on my face when I first found it! It put that smile on my face 'cause it was the one to give me the best extra info about Ash! So, here's that smile :) !!![[User:Dragonbeastx|Dragonbeastx]] 02:34, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

*Not any problems with me because ash is a cool guy and half the best humor on the show (at least with the 4Kids dub although you can find some on the PUSA dub) and he has the coolest pokemon like Charizard, Buizal, Totodile, Tauros and Sceptile. Yeah it would make a good candidate.

====Object (6)====
*Maybe I am just mean and Coldhearted, but I find Ash to not be original enough, unlike Brock[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 00:49, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
*The trivia section is WAY too out of control to be nominated. Fix it and I might change my mind. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:11, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
*The trivia and list of Pokémon are kind of ridiculous, and the neutrality of the article is definitely skewed. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 21:25, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
*See {{u|Kenji-girl}}'s comment. Mine is pretty much the same. In addition, I hate Ash... :P --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 21:58, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
*I agree with the other four and {{u|LostDrewid}}, its trivia is somewhat bad not how it was, and the fact that people just like him because he is the main character makes it hard to actually vote for a reasonable reason.--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☆''']]'' 21:23, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
*You know what? The trivia section looks longer than section 1.1 to 1.2! I felt that there are some unnecessary trivia in that section. And to be honest, I don't really like Ash, although he's the main character. I mean, since the first episode, he was proven to be very reckless and until now, he's still reckless and stubborn! I can see the side characters improving themselves a little by little, but for Ash, maybe a little, but not much.
[[User:Dialgalover]]
*Leave Ash alone, he is briliant. The best character EVER! The {{wp|Zac Efron}} of the [[Pokémon World]].--[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]

====Other comments====
My biggest concern about this article being nominated is that some votes will inevitably be skewed by the popularity of the character. Look at two of the votes already: instead of examining the worth of the article, he's compared with Brock. I feel quite strongly that these sorts of comments have absolutely no place in the decision regarding this article's candidacy for Featured Article status. [[User:LostDrewid|LostDrewid]] 01:59, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:Another concern is that for vandals, this is one of the largest targets. I'm somewhat worried about that. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:40, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Legendary beasts

2008-12-05T15:12:39Z

WolfMan of Light:

Talk:Mew (Pokémon)/Featured article candidate

2008-11-24T23:21:28Z

WolfMan of Light:

====Support (8)====
*'''Nominate''' its the first Pokemon ever made, it was trademark registered even before the term Pokémon, also the article contains lots of in depth information, interesting trivia which '''hasnt''' span out of control, in all, a more than worthy candidate to be a Featured Article --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
* '''Support''' One of the best species articles with information on all areas covered. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:54, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
* Awesome, article and it was made before Pokémon itself!--[[User:David aipom|''David Aipom'']] [[User talk:David aipom|(Speaks To Me):] Sonic Electronic]] 20:18, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
* '''Support.''' It is detailed and has every single part, especially with the move tutors. The sprites are good as well. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 19:33, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
*its an awesome pokemon plus my favorite--[[Mew (Pokémon)|M]][[User:MyUU|yU]][[User talk:MyUU|U]] 20:39, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
*It's a very comprehensive article, with full information on almost everything. Plus, it hasn't had any recent edit wars to screw it up. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 23:50, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
*'''Support.''' The best species article behind Bulbasaur, very informative. --[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]] 12:18, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Mew is one of the coolest pokemon around and one of the best legendary Pokemon besides Suicune [[User:WolfMan of Light|De Wolfy is here]] 23:20, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

====Oppose (0)====

====Other comments====

Talk:Mew (Pokémon)/Featured article candidate

2008-11-24T23:20:56Z

WolfMan of Light: /* Support (7) */

====Support (7)====
*'''Nominate''' its the first Pokemon ever made, it was trademark registered even before the term Pokémon, also the article contains lots of in depth information, interesting trivia which '''hasnt''' span out of control, in all, a more than worthy candidate to be a Featured Article --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
* '''Support''' One of the best species articles with information on all areas covered. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:54, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
* Awesome, article and it was made before Pokémon itself!--[[User:David aipom|''David Aipom'']] [[User talk:David aipom|(Speaks To Me):] Sonic Electronic]] 20:18, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
* '''Support.''' It is detailed and has every single part, especially with the move tutors. The sprites are good as well. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 19:33, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
*its an awesome pokemon plus my favorite--[[Mew (Pokémon)|M]][[User:MyUU|yU]][[User talk:MyUU|U]] 20:39, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
*It's a very comprehensive article, with full information on almost everything. Plus, it hasn't had any recent edit wars to screw it up. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 23:50, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
*'''Support.''' The best species article behind Bulbasaur, very informative. --[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]] 12:18, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Mew is one of the coolest pokemon around and one of the best legendary Pokemon besides Suicune [[User:WolfMan of Light|De Wolfy is here]] 23:20, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

====Oppose (0)====

====Other comments====

Talk:Charla

2008-11-24T15:19:33Z

WolfMan of Light:

why is it confirmed that charla is a female? no one said {{u|LegendaryFlame}}
:Her Japanese name is Lisa, and she wears a bow. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 14:35, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, I believe Liza said it herself. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:13, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Why does it say Charla's Female but Ash's is unknown? ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 09:23, 10 November 2008 (UTC))
:Ok that is wrong in so many ways Ash's Charizard has to be a male otherwise Charla would never have fallen for him, She wears a bow and even has a ladies name in both the original and the dub, could there be any more evidence short of them telling you themselves. You would not see a male charizard going around with a bow on it's head and since she has fallen for Ash's Charizard I think it is a male unless Charla is a lesbein and I don't think they allow that kind of thing on pokemon. Sheesh whoever thinks Charla is not a female needs a reality check, same goes for people who think Charizard is a female. [[User:WolfMan of Light|De Wolfy is here]] 15:19, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

== Caught at ==

Is it confermed that Charla was caught in [[Johto]]? I don't remember anyone mentioning it.--'''[[User:Misty-may-dawn rulz|Misty-May-Dawn]] [[User talk:Misty-may-dawn rulz|rulz]]''' 10:37, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

== Who changed the picture ==

That picture sucks. You can barely see Charla. It's centered on Liza. I was going to change it back to the first one but someone deleted it. Get a new picture. That isn't acceptable. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 03:19, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I will change the picture when I take a few from the DVDs and then I will put a few up when I get the time. [[User:WolfMan of Light|De Wolfy is here]] 15:18, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Charla

2008-11-24T15:18:54Z

WolfMan of Light:

why is it confirmed that charla is a female? no one said {{u|LegendaryFlame}}
:Her Japanese name is Lisa, and she wears a bow. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 14:35, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, I believe Liza said it herself. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:13, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Why does it say Charla's Female but Ash's is unknown? ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 09:23, 10 November 2008 (UTC))
:Ok that is wrong in so many ways Ash's Charizard has to be a male otherwise Charla would never have fallen for him, She wears a bow and even has a ladies name in both the original and the dub, could there be any more evidence short of them telling you themselves. You would not see a male charizard going around with a bow on it's head and since she has fallen for Ash's Charizard I think it is a male unless Charla is a lesbein and I don't think they allow that kind of thing on pokemon. Sheesh whoever thinks Charla is not a female needs a reality check, same goes for people who think Charizard is a female. [[User:WolfMan of Light|[[User:Example|De Wolfy Man]] ''([[User talk:WolfMan of Light|tAlk]]]] 15:16, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

== Caught at ==

Is it confermed that Charla was caught in [[Johto]]? I don't remember anyone mentioning it.--'''[[User:Misty-may-dawn rulz|Misty-May-Dawn]] [[User talk:Misty-may-dawn rulz|rulz]]''' 10:37, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

== Who changed the picture ==

That picture sucks. You can barely see Charla. It's centered on Liza. I was going to change it back to the first one but someone deleted it. Get a new picture. That isn't acceptable. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 03:19, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I will change the picture when I take a few from the DVDs and then I will put a few up when I get the time. [[User:WolfMan of Light|De Wolfy is here]] 15:18, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Charla

2008-11-24T15:16:17Z

WolfMan of Light:

why is it confirmed that charla is a female? no one said {{u|LegendaryFlame}}
:Her Japanese name is Lisa, and she wears a bow. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 14:35, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, I believe Liza said it herself. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:13, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Why does it say Charla's Female but Ash's is unknown? ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 09:23, 10 November 2008 (UTC))
:Ok that is wrong in so many ways Ash's Charizard has to be a male otherwise Charla would never have fallen for him, She wears a bow and even has a ladies name in both the original and the dub, could there be any more evidence short of them telling you themselves. You would not see a male charizard going around with a bow on it's head and since she has fallen for Ash's Charizard I think it is a male unless Charla is a lesbein and I don't think they allow that kind of thing on pokemon. Sheesh whoever thinks Charla is not a female needs a reality check, same goes for people who think Charizard is a female. [[User:WolfMan of Light|[[User:Example|De Wolfy Man]] ''([[User talk:WolfMan of Light|tAlk]]]] 15:16, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

== Caught at ==

Is it confermed that Charla was caught in [[Johto]]? I don't remember anyone mentioning it.--'''[[User:Misty-may-dawn rulz|Misty-May-Dawn]] [[User talk:Misty-may-dawn rulz|rulz]]''' 10:37, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

== Who changed the picture ==

That picture sucks. You can barely see Charla. It's centered on Liza. I was going to change it back to the first one but someone deleted it. Get a new picture. That isn't acceptable. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 03:19, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Charla

2008-11-20T13:20:26Z

WolfMan of Light: /* Trivia */

{{AnimePokémonInfobox|
nickname=Charla|
jnickname=リサ|
tmnickname=Lisa|
image=[[Image:Charla1.JPG|250px]] |
caption=Liza and Charla|
gender=Female|
location=Unknown |
epnum=EP134|
epname=Charizard's Burning Ambition|
prevonum=006|
pokemonname=Charizard|
current=[[Charicific Valley]]|
java1=[[Rikako Aikawa]]|
}}

'''Charla''' (Japanese: '''リサ''' ''Lisa'') is a {{p|Charizard}} who lives in the [[Charicific Valley]]. She is voiced by 愛河里花子 ''[[Rikako Aikawa]]'' in both Japanese and English.

Charla belongs to {{jo|Liza}}, who maintains the Valley. When {{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} were going through the Valley, they had the opportunity to meet Charla. Charla is Liza's only Pokémon, and her greatest partner, seeing as it travels with her to places outside the valley. Charla was also the only non-wild Pokémon in the valley when Ash and co. met her.

In ''[[EP253|Great Bowls of Fire]]'', it was revealed that [[Ash's Charizard]] became Charla's bodyguard and it's apparent that Charla has [[ValleyShipping|fallen for it]].

==Moves used==

* {{m|Flamethrower}}

==Trivia==
*Her Japanese name, リサ ''Lisa'', comes from Charizard's Japanese name, リザードン ''Lizardon'', and is also a girl's name that is identical to her trainer's English name, Liza. Likewise, her English name comes from a portmanteau of Carla, a girl's name, with Char, part of the name of all of the members of the {{p|Charmander}} evolution family.
*In her first appearance, she was much larger than Ash's Charizard. The next time the two were seen, she was the same size as it.
*Charla seems to have fallen for Ash's Charizard and because of this it is reasonable to assume that Ash's Charizard is indeed a Male.

==Related articles==
{{Animespecies|Charizard}}

[[Category:Anime characters (Pokémon)]]
[[Category:Female characters]]

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2008-11-18T19:10:45Z

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2008-11-18T13:27:11Z

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2008-11-18T13:26:41Z

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User:WolfMan of Light

2008-11-18T13:09:26Z

WolfMan of Light:

== Well about me ==

Truthfully I don't know what to write here but here goes anyway. I am 20 years old now having turned 20 in August and am just out of college and am now looking for a job doing who knows what.

== Pokémon ==

I have been watching Pokémon since it first started. When I first seen it I wasn't too sure and so I didn't begin watching until about episode 20 and even then I can remember Ash and Meowth's old voices, talk about changes.

I think some of my favorite episodes are ones that feature Ash's Charizard especially when it didn't listen to him but I loved it when he began to listen also. The one Pokémon that I can't seem to stand is Jynx, who on earth thought of that thing Satoshi Tajiri seemed to be having a bad day when he thought of that.

I think that the original series is still by far the best, from the plot to the characters it still rocks (Ash, Misty and Brock). I thought that the Johto ones rocked also, some of the filler episodes were quite boring sometimes but the Silver Conference was the best and far better than the Indigo League and Hoenn League and will probably be better than the Sinnoh one also.

I didn't watch much of the Advanced Generation series at first because they took Misty out of it and to this day I still haven't forgiven them to this day. I started watching it at about half way through Advanced Challenge and then watched all the episodes right up to Advanced Battle. The Music on the Advanced Season was kind of slow and bad for me but it got much better for Advanced Challenge and Advanced Battle. Although compared to Johto it wasn't quite as good. For the line up changes in the season I was sort of glad to see that they brought in a new girl but I was also very biased with anger toward May with her being Misty's replacement. The bigest annoyance to me in the whole three seasons was defo Max. I mean what a brat ever since he first appeared I was hoping he would leave suddenly and never return in one episode and I am glad he left in Diamond and Pearl. Brock's return was very welcome to me and I am always glad to see him alongside Ash but honestly what was wrong with both he and Ash's attire.

When it came to the Battle Frontier I was shocked to discover that the voices had changed (more on this below). The music had also shocked to discover that the music theme had shortened by almost half (although it was still a good song and one of the better ones). As Diamond and Pearl came in I was still sore by the new voices and to be fair this may have came into my judgement about the season. I thought that the music was pretty bad for Diamond and Pearl but for Battle Dimension I think they have hit an all time low with it and that combined with the new voices means that I won't be watching Battle Dimension for a very long time. In regards to the new line up change I am glad that they finally ditched Max and May, although May did not annoy me as much Max annoyed the life out of me and I just wanted to strangle him sometimes. Dawn was an excallent addition especially with some of her early moments of blunder, reminds me of Ash in his early days. Ash's rival Paul reminds me of a more agressive version of Gary and he will defo have some good moments in the season as it goes on. I think that the change in Ash's attire from the Advanced seasons is a welcome change, the darker colors really suit him.

As for the PUSA dub voice changes I honestly think it was a very bad choice to change the actors so vert laet into the game. Pokémon should have stuck with Veronica, Maddie, Rachel, Eric and the rest of the gang. This is of course just my opinion but let me go further. I have never seen the Mirage special and to be honest from what I have heard I am in no hurry to anymore. I have also tried to give the new voice actors a good chance but they just fail to grab my attention as the 4Kids ones did and even though I do still watch the season (although for how long with the Battle Dimension music I don't know).

== My Tags ==

User:WolfMan of Light

2008-11-18T13:07:08Z

WolfMan of Light:

== Well about me ==

Truthfully I don't know what to write here but here goes anyway. I am 20 years old now having turned 20 in August and am just out of college and am now looking for a job doing who knows what.

== Pokémon ==

I have been watching Pokémon since it first started. When I first seen it I wasn't too sure and so I didn't begin watching until about episode 20 and even then I can remember Ash and Meowth's old voices, talk about changes.

I think some of my favorite episodes are ones that feature Ash's Charizard especially when it didn't listen to him but I loved it when he began to listen also. The one Pokémon that I can't seem to stand is Jynx, who on earth thought of that thing Satoshi Tajiri seemed to be having a bad day when he thought of that.

I think that the original series is still by far the best, from the plot to the characters it still rocks (Ash, Misty and Brock). I thought that the Johto ones rocked also, some of the filler episodes were quite boring sometimes but the Silver Conference was the best and far better than the Indigo League and Hoenn League and will probably be better than the Sinnoh one also.

I didn't watch much of the Advanced Generation series at first because they took Misty out of it and to this day I still haven't forgiven them to this day. I started watching it at about half way through Advanced Challenge and then watched all the episodes right up to Advanced Battle. The Music on the Advanced Season was kind of slow and bad for me but it got much better for Advanced Challenge and Advanced Battle. Although compared to Johto it wasn't quite as good. For the line up changes in the season I was sort of glad to see that they brought in a new girl but I was also very biased with anger toward May with her being Misty's replacement. The bigest annoyance to me in the whole three seasons was defo Max. I mean what a brat ever since he first appeared I was hoping he would leave suddenly and never return in one episode and I am glad he left in Diamond and Pearl. Brock's return was very welcome to me and I am always glad to see him alongside Ash but honestly what was wrong with both he and Ash's attire.

When it came to the Battle Frontier I was shocked to discover that the voices had changed (more on this below). The music had also shocked to discover that the music theme had shortened by almost half (although it was still a good song and one of the better ones). As Diamond and Pearl came in I was still sore by the new voices and to be fair this may have came into my judgement about the season. I thought that the music was pretty bad for Diamond and Pearl but for Battle Dimension I think they have hit an all time low with it and that combined with the new voices means that I won't be watching Battle Dimension for a very long time. In regards to the new line up change I am glad that they finally ditched Max and May, although May did not annoy me as much Max annoyed the life out of me and I just wanted to strangle him sometimes. Dawn was an excallent addition especially with some of her early moments of blunder, reminds me of Ash in his early days. Ash's rival Paul reminds me of a more agressive version of Gary and he will defo have some good moments in the season as it goes on. I think that the change in Ash's attire from the Advanced seasons is a welcome change, the darker colors really suit him.

As for the PUSA dub voice changes I honestly think it was a very bad choice to change the actors so vert laet into the game. Pokémon should have stuck with Veronica, Maddie, Rachel, Eric and the rest of the gang. This is of course just my opinion but let me go further. I have never seen the Mirage special and to be honest from what I have heard I am in no hurry to anymore. I have also tried to give the new voice actors a good chance but they just fail to grab my attention as the 4Kids ones did and even though I do still watch the season (although for how long with the Battle Dimension music I don't know).

== My Tags ==

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User:WolfMan of Light

2008-11-18T13:06:49Z

WolfMan of Light:

== Well about me ==

Truthfully I don't know what to write here but here goes anyway. I am 20 years old now having turned 20 in August and am just out of college and am now looking for a job doing who knows what.

== Pokémon ==

I have been watching Pokémon since it first started. When I first seen it I wasn't too sure and so I didn't begin watching until about episode 20 and even then I can remember Ash and Meowth's old voices, talk about changes.

I think some of my favorite episodes are ones that feature Ash's Charizard especially when it didn't listen to him but I loved it when he began to listen also. The one Pokémon that I can't seem to stand is Jynx, who on earth thought of that thing Satoshi Tajiri seemed to be having a bad day when he thought of that.

I think that the original series is still by far the best, from the plot to the characters it still rocks (Ash, Misty and Brock). I thought that the Johto ones rocked also, some of the filler episodes were quite boring sometimes but the Silver Conference was the best and far better than the Indigo League and Hoenn League and will probably be better than the Sinnoh one also.

I didn't watch much of the Advanced Generation series at first because they took Misty out of it and to this day I still haven't forgiven them to this day. I started watching it at about half way through Advanced Challenge and then watched all the episodes right up to Advanced Battle. The Music on the Advanced Season was kind of slow and bad for me but it got much better for Advanced Challenge and Advanced Battle. Although compared to Johto it wasn't quite as good. For the line up changes in the season I was sort of glad to see that they brought in a new girl but I was also very biased with anger toward May with her being Misty's replacement. The bigest annoyance to me in the whole three seasons was defo Max. I mean what a brat ever since he first appeared I was hoping he would leave suddenly and never return in one episode and I am glad he left in Diamond and Pearl. Brock's return was very welcome to me and I am always glad to see him alongside Ash but honestly what was wrong with both he and Ash's attire.

When it came to the Battle Frontier I was shocked to discover that the voices had changed (more on this below). The music had also shocked to discover that the music theme had shortened by almost half (although it was still a good song and one of the better ones). As Diamond and Pearl came in I was still sore by the new voices and to be fair this may have came into my judgement about the season. I thought that the music was pretty bad for Diamond and Pearl but for Battle Dimension I think they have hit an all time low with it and that combined with the new voices means that I won't be watching Battle Dimension for a very long time. In regards to the new line up change I am glad that they finally ditched Max and May, although May did not annoy me as much Max annoyed the life out of me and I just wanted to strangle him sometimes. Dawn was an excallent addition especially with some of her early moments of blunder, reminds me of Ash in his early days. Ash's rival Paul reminds me of a more agressive version of Gary and he will defo have some good moments in the season as it goes on. I think that the change in Ash's attire from the Advanced seasons is a welcome change, the darker colors really suit him.

As for the PUSA dub voice changes I honestly think it was a very bad choice to change the actors so vert laet into the game. Pokémon should have stuck with Veronica, Maddie, Rachel, Eric and the rest of the gang. This is of course just my opinion but let me go further. I have never seen the Mirage special and to be honest from what I have heard I am in no hurry to anymore. I have also tried to give the new voice actors a good chance but they just fail to grab my attention as the 4Kids ones did and even though I do still watch the season (although for how long with the Battle Dimension music I don't know).

== My Tags ==

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User:WolfMan of Light

2008-11-18T13:06:10Z

WolfMan of Light:

== Well about me ==

Truthfully I don't know what to write here but here goes anyway. I am 20 years old now having turned 20 in August and am just out of college and am now looking for a job doing who knows what.

== Pokémon ==

I have been watching Pokémon since it first started. When I first seen it I wasn't too sure and so I didn't begin watching until about episode 20 and even then I can remember Ash and Meowth's old voices, talk about changes.

I think some of my favorite episodes are ones that feature Ash's Charizard especially when it didn't listen to him but I loved it when he began to listen also. The one Pokémon that I can't seem to stand is Jynx, who on earth thought of that thing Satoshi Tajiri seemed to be having a bad day when he thought of that.

I think that the original series is still by far the best, from the plot to the characters it still rocks (Ash, Misty and Brock). I thought that the Johto ones rocked also, some of the filler episodes were quite boring sometimes but the Silver Conference was the best and far better than the Indigo League and Hoenn League and will probably be better than the Sinnoh one also.

I didn't watch much of the Advanced Generation series at first because they took Misty out of it and to this day I still haven't forgiven them to this day. I started watching it at about half way through Advanced Challenge and then watched all the episodes right up to Advanced Battle. The Music on the Advanced Season was kind of slow and bad for me but it got much better for Advanced Challenge and Advanced Battle. Although compared to Johto it wasn't quite as good. For the line up changes in the season I was sort of glad to see that they brought in a new girl but I was also very biased with anger toward May with her being Misty's replacement. The bigest annoyance to me in the whole three seasons was defo Max. I mean what a brat ever since he first appeared I was hoping he would leave suddenly and never return in one episode and I am glad he left in Diamond and Pearl. Brock's return was very welcome to me and I am always glad to see him alongside Ash but honestly what was wrong with both he and Ash's attire.

When it came to the Battle Frontier I was shocked to discover that the voices had changed (more on this below). The music had also shocked to discover that the music theme had shortened by almost half (although it was still a good song and one of the better ones). As Diamond and Pearl came in I was still sore by the new voices and to be fair this may have came into my judgement about the season. I thought that the music was pretty bad for Diamond and Pearl but for Battle Dimension I think they have hit an all time low with it and that combined with the new voices means that I won't be watching Battle Dimension for a very long time. In regards to the new line up change I am glad that they finally ditched Max and May, although May did not annoy me as much Max annoyed the life out of me and I just wanted to strangle him sometimes. Dawn was an excallent addition especially with some of her early moments of blunder, reminds me of Ash in his early days. Ash's rival Paul reminds me of a more agressive version of Gary and he will defo have some good moments in the season as it goes on. I think that the change in Ash's attire from the Advanced seasons is a welcome change, the darker colors really suit him.

As for the PUSA dub voice changes I honestly think it was a very bad choice to change the actors so vert laet into the game. Pokémon should have stuck with Veronica, Maddie, Rachel, Eric and the rest of the gang. This is of course just my opinion but let me go further. I have never seen the Mirage special and to be honest from what I have heard I am in no hurry to anymore. I have also tried to give the new voice actors a good chance but they just fail to grab my attention as the 4Kids ones did and even though I do still watch the season (although for how long with the Battle Dimension music I don't know).

== My Tags ==

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User:WolfMan of Light

2008-11-18T13:01:58Z

WolfMan of Light: New page: == Well about me == Truthfully I don't know what to write here but here goes anyway. I am 20 years old now having turned 20 in August and am just out of college and am now looking for a j...

== Well about me ==

Truthfully I don't know what to write here but here goes anyway. I am 20 years old now having turned 20 in August and am just out of college and am now looking for a job doing who knows what.

== Pokémon ==

I have been watching Pokémon since it first started. When I first seen it I wasn't too sure and so I didn't begin watching until about episode 20 and even then I can remember Ash and Meowth's old voices, talk about changes.

I think some of my favorite episodes are ones that feature Ash's Charizard especially when it didn't listen to him but I loved it when he began to listen also. The one Pokémon that I can't seem to stand is Jynx, who on earth thought of that thing Satoshi Tajiri seemed to be having a bad day when he thought of that.

I think that the original series is still by far the best, from the plot to the characters it still rocks (Ash, Misty and Brock). I thought that the Johto ones rocked also, some of the filler episodes were quite boring sometimes but the Silver Conference was the best and far better than the Indigo League and Hoenn League and will probably be better than the Sinnoh one also.

I didn't watch much of the Advanced Generation series at first because they took Misty out of it and to this day I still haven't forgiven them to this day. I started watching it at about half way through Advanced Challenge and then watched all the episodes right up to Advanced Battle. The Music on the Advanced Season was kind of slow and bad for me but it got much better for Advanced Challenge and Advanced Battle. Although compared to Johto it wasn't quite as good. For the line up changes in the season I was sort of glad to see that they brought in a new girl but I was also very biased with anger toward May with her being Misty's replacement. The bigest annoyance to me in the whole three seasons was defo Max. I mean what a brat ever since he first appeared I was hoping he would leave suddenly and never return in one episode and I am glad he left in Diamond and Pearl. Brock's return was very welcome to me and I am always glad to see him alongside Ash but honestly what was wrong with both he and Ash's attire.

When it came to the Battle Frontier I was shocked to discover that the voices had changed (more on this below). The music had also shocked to discover that the music theme had shortened by almost half (although it was still a good song and one of the better ones). As Diamond and Pearl came in I was still sore by the new voices and to be fair this may have came into my judgement about the season. I thought that the music was pretty bad for Diamond and Pearl but for Battle Dimension I think they have hit an all time low with it and that combined with the new voices means that I won't be watching Battle Dimension for a very long time. In regards to the new line up change I am glad that they finally ditched Max and May, although May did not annoy me as much Max annoyed the life out of me and I just wanted to strangle him sometimes. Dawn was an excallent addition especially with some of her early moments of blunder, reminds me of Ash in his early days. Ash's rival Paul reminds me of a more agressive version of Gary and he will defo have some good moments in the season as it goes on. I think that the change in Ash's attire from the Advanced seasons is a welcome change, the darker colors really suit him.

As for the PUSA dub voice changes I honestly think it was a very bad choice to change the actors so vert laet into the game. Pokémon should have stuck with Veronica, Maddie, Rachel, Eric and the rest of the gang. This is of course just my opinion but let me go further. I have never seen the Mirage special and to be honest from what I have heard I am in no hurry to anymore. I have also tried to give the new voice actors a good chance but they just fail to grab my attention as the 4Kids ones did and even though I do still watch the season (although for how long with the Battle Dimension music I don't know).

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2008-11-17T23:47:35Z

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Those instructions, such as holding shift made me laugh. I also have access to é through a non-alt keystroke. (En-UK layout). :P [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 15:41, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:Some people just don't get that Pokémon is not spelled pokemon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:29, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
::True. I instinctively type it Pokémon even to someone who sees any é as an I. Or into some searches which show no results as it's listed without the accent. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 10:36, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

== grades ==

well done on your results, although my IP is blocked I can still see what you post through Proxys. So i saw everything, WELL DONE, cept the one you failed, but oh well, like u said it was voluntary! SO well done, you should be proud. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 12:28, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
:It proves, you do not need to do any revision or studying to pass an exam. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 14:00, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

== DONT USE TALK PAGES! TALK TO ME ON ==

AIM. However it says that your offline when others say to me that your online, next time you see me on (im on now) IM me, bye see ya! --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 20:38, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

== THE TALE OF 2 FAVOURS ==

1) please talk to me on Aim, unignore me, if I do start to get annoying during a convo then just tell me and Ill stop. please Gywall I really miss talking to you, please.

2) can you tell me the name of the flash cart you use and whether or not it is on Amazon,

Thankyou
--[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 19:40, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:1. I unignore as I please.
:1.1 I also leave it like that longer if you ask
:2. EzFlash. I dunno if it's on Amazon. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 20:16, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

== please ==

please dont ignore me. I dont know how much longer Im even gonna be. I did nothiing to you and youve put me on ignore and runaway from me whenever, I havent had a chance to talk to you about anything. Forget IPGL, I just want to chat and be friends, for however little time is left. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 10:14, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

==Regarding your post on Tier List discussion==

Um actually I have made my own tier list.

If this site wanted to use it, I'd be more than happy.

But if we have to stick with theirs, looks like we have to try get that changed instead.[[User:Mr. Black|Mr. Black]] 06:44, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

== **** ==

Lets be friends again, you said you were forgiving, and Ive done nothing wrong to you, (that I am aware of) it just looked like you stopped coming on AIm and then i found out later you had blocked me. Gywall, please lets just sweep it under the rug (whatever it was) and continue to be friends. Friendship isnt worth destroying over something as silly as Pokemon. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 16:22, 17 October 2008 (UTC) Please?

Lol, 4 stars means in a heading means none, not a swearword, stop trying to lie about me! If its a swearword it would have been d**k or C**t, see <big>you dont know as much as you think</big> --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]

== TRADE ==

Can I trade you my Roserade and then using you Flash Cart can you tell me what the Secret ID of the Pokemon is? Please, even though you are ignoring me on AIM, please can you help me do this. I need to know its Secret ID! --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 13:07, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

== HEY ==

Please Gywall, Im not very well and I just want a chat, nothing to do with IPGL (I promise), I just want us to have a few friendly chats, Im going to have to start going into hospital often and so I dont know when Ill be on, I just want a friendly chat like we used to on Xat.com nothing to do with IPGL. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 18:47, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

== Battle Frontier ==

Have you beat all the frontier brains yet? --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]

== Grudge ==

You said to me that you dont hold grudges, well that was a lie wasnt it. I was reading on IPGL they took down that account needed screen at last and you said "he created a stressful situation for me a while ago" refering to when I insulted you for being gay, you said youd forgiven me for that, but clearly your still bitter.

Now your ignoring me on Aim or have been for a few weeks now and havent given me a reason, instead YOU JUST IGNORE ME your 18 im only 14 what do you have to be scared of me for, if you talk to me on Aim what can I do to you, nothing besides be a good friend and have a nice conversation with you, thats all I want Gywall, and Ive done nothing to you to deserve being ignored. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]

== Rachey ==

Rachey's not a sock puppet, I stopped sockpuppeting after the first few days of my ban, she wasnt even really a friend, she has an account on here, and talked to me on Aim, but she hasnt ever since shes been banned, thats all, I swear to you on my life, that shes not a sock puppet.

I dont sockpuppet anymore for the very reason that it would hurt my chances, do you think id jeopardise the small chance I have left. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:I have enough proof to disprove you. And that's in the form of your IP address. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::Not true, and that is how I prove you are lying. It is IMPOSSIBLE for me and Rachey's IP's to be the same as she is not a sock puppet, and I am finding other proof as we speak to prove that we are two seperate people, and prove you are lying.

Gywall, im sorry i insulted you for being gay, but you told me youd moved on, but hold this grudge against me, Im sorry Gywall, and thats all I can say, Ive learnt my lesson and belive you me i Wouldnt make fun of your sexual choices if i were there now, but the fact is I made that mistake, months ago, and I have to live with the fact I made someone upset, that is hard enough to bare as it is, let alone lies about me sockpuppeting, when I havent done anything? --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:And you got it wrong again. I can be attracted to either gender equally. Now, how often do two people end up with the exact same IP address? And yes, {{tt|I do know your latest IP address.|It's not hard to get an IP.}} [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 21:22, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

The only possible attempt at an explaination is when I used a proxy to try and see if I was unblocked on IPGL, I was momentarily logged in, (maybe long enough to adopt the IP)and then it went to the ban screen. Im guessing it might have been the one she used, other than that I dont know, but I do know that I have nothing to do with rachey --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:And how would that affect anything? [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 21:36, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

She used a proxy, those change your IP adress, she told me the name of the proxy she used and I had it stored in a list of sites, this MIGHT have been the one I used, so those sites show the last known IP, for that short time i was unblocked, that would have turned my IP to the one the proxy gives, if that was the same Proxy as Rachels it would be the same IP, other than that I dont know, all i know is that me and Rachey are not the same person. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:I give up with this.. waste of effort to argue. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 21:54, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::Take this to AIM--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Nag at Me!]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Edits))]]
:::You forgot I block {{tt|people|Including someone above}} who get on my nerves already? [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 21:58, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

you give up arguing because youve got nothing to argue, IF my IP is the same, I have given you the reason to the best of my knowledge why that would be. I promise you, she is not a sockpuppet. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:No, it is because it is pointless to argue. And what's this expanded my talk page by.. 5 KB or so? Now, your IP came from an outside source. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]])
::Furthermore, I call this a close. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 22:06, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Im going to demonstrate the power of Proxies, but 2morow Im too tired right now, and please so I can post the results of the experiment take down the protection thing. This is for you as well, I think you can learn something too. Let me prove this to you. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]

We need to get a Bulba admin involved so they can check the IP change. I have an experiment that will prove I am right. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:So what will you prove, that you can do revision of my last two years of my life?
:And you ignored my stop notice. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 22:35, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

1. What stop notice???
2. I dont get what you said about proof one bit, Im going to prove you are wrong about what a proxy can do.
--[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]

== RE:Template line breaks ==
I'm sorry but I had to remove them since it was merging with the Rival section[[User:Deathgabriel|Deat]][[User talk:Deathgabriel|hgab]][[User:Deathgabriel/PokeShop|riel]] 10:45, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== It's v. Its ==

'''It's''' is a contraction of "it is." '''Its''' is the possessive form of "it." So, when you say "it's name," you're saying "it is name." Maybe that makes sense to you, but I have a hard time envisioning a Pokémon being name. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 21:48, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:I blame mistakes in English textbooks, which seem to imply "it's" as '''it''' as an object, and '''<nowiki></nowiki>'s''' to refer to the object. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 21:54, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

==yay tankz for the user boxs ==
it was good of you[[User:GoldsWigglytuff|GoldsWigglytuff]] 10:44, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

can I take your This user's birthday is June 23 user box cos its my b-day and its got igglybuff on it!!![[User:GoldsWigglytuff|GoldsWigglytuff]] 10:46, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
:No problem there. And you have the same birthday as me? That's crazy.. Trivia time: Igglybuff is only there to match June 23rd as the 174th day of the year. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 10:54, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

cool[[User:GoldsWigglytuff|GoldsWigglytuff]] 11:24, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

hey I know its a pien but can you do my User Favorite Normal Wigglytuff box. if you don't
it dose'n metter.[[User:GoldsWigglytuff|GoldsWigglytuff]] 20:49, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

== so ==

are we gonna be grown up about this and try to settle our differences or are we going to continue these childish games of cat and mouse. I feel it would show maturity on both our parts, if we came together and worked through this, to reach a happy and peaceful conclusion. If you discuss it with me, and allow me to discuss back Im sure we can come to a good result. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]

== Talk List ==

Umm man why did you put all the nonsense back on my talk page about the annoying argument with Amos or whatever his name was, I didn't want to keep that stuff.[[User:WolfMan of Light|WolfMan of Light]] 23:47, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Gywall

2008-11-17T23:46:52Z

WolfMan of Light:

User talk:WolfMan of Light

2008-11-12T11:46:28Z

WolfMan of Light:

Talk:We Will Be Heroes

2008-10-27T13:04:56Z

WolfMan of Light: /* You Know What I Noticed... */

Well, this song was re-done a little bit for the Season 11 opening, so I guess it's time to edit and move it.

-HoennMaster (08:35 CST) April 12, 2008

Shouldn't we put it in the English Opening themes template?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]] 13:40, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Also, the lyrics differ from the movie version.

-HoennMaster (09:17 CST) April 12, 2008
:Well not really, I recorded it so let me put the lyrics'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|{{Color|FF0000|Po}}{{Color|FFFF00|ke}}]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|{{Color|00FF00|Ma}}{{Color|00FFFF|ni}}{{Color|0000FF|ac}}]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|{{Color|FF00FF|102}}]]''' 14:20, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

''On a road, far from home,''
 ''you don't have to feel alone.''
 ''Brave and strong, together we will be.''
 ''It's our destiny!''
 ''We will be heroes.''
 ''We can change the world if we try!''
 ''I go where you go.''
 ''Forever friends, you and I!''
 ''We will be heroes!''
 ''Battle Dimension Pokémon!''

There'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|{{Color|FF0000|Po}}{{Color|FFFF00|ke}}]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|{{Color|00FF00|Ma}}{{Color|00FFFF|ni}}{{Color|0000FF|ac}}]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|{{Color|FF00FF|102}}]]''' 14:28, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

== You Know What I Noticed... ==

The reason that they have a shortened theme is that they put that scene from the middle at the beginning,which wastes time, thus the shortened theme!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki (w/ a Broken Diamond)]] 02:16, 14 April 2008 (UTC) Aaaah Yeah!

No. This is the third season with a 30 second theme, and Battle Frontier did not have cold-opens, and Japan even does.

I kinda think this is the worst season opening overall, that combined with the new vioce actors make this one season that I am not going to watch, Diamond and Pearl opening was kinda cool with the rap theme and Battle frontier was just plain fast and furious, the way that the openings should be. I never had a problem with any of the first 8 (except Advanced because it was kind of boring and Chronicles doesn't count). [[User:WolfMan of Light|WolfMan of Light]] 13:47, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

You do realize that this discussion started on my 12th day as a BP member, and I LOVE THIS OPENING!! They changed it up with a female, wich I thought was nice. Also, u can't judge a season by it's theme song--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 13:51, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Well you might not be able to judge a season by the opening but you can judge it by other things as well, so far I have not been impressed by the voices and I almost cryed when I seen May again in Battle Dimension, what have they done to her. [[User:WolfMan of Light|WolfMan of Light]] 13:04, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Talk:We Will Be Heroes

2008-10-27T13:04:41Z

WolfMan of Light: /* You Know What I Noticed... */