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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;VoidPointer: /* Hidden Abilities? */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Evolving Dual traits==&lt;br /&gt;
Some pokemon that cant be caught in the wild and must be evolved have a dual nature that is not shared with the previous generation, how do you get their abilities then?&lt;br /&gt;
:Breeding LOL &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 20:20, 24 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::If the ability is a new one (introduced in gen IV) the pokemon has a 50% chance to change the ability upon evolving, I think [[User:Shiny Lanturn|Shiny Lanturn]] 10:06, 17 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Nopes. It will remain with its ability. For example if you have a Rhydon with Lighningrod and it evolves, the Rhyperior will continue having Lightningrod as ability. But if the Rhydon had Rock Head, then as Rhyperior it will have Solid Rock. That&#039;s the way it works. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 01:11, 18 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: What I meant is that if you transfer Nidorino with point point and evolve it, it has a 50% chance of getting rivalry. The Rhyperior situation doesn&#039;t fly because the line already had two abilities : Lightning Rod and Rock head, Rock head becomes solid rock upon evolving. Solid rock isn&#039;t &#039;added&#039; it replaces an existing one. [[User:Shiny Lanturn|Shiny Lanturn]] 14:26, 18 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Nopes, Nidorino already has Rivalry and even Nidoran♂ has it. If you want a Nidoking with Rivalry you&#039;ll have to breed it and get a Nidoran♂ with it already. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 16:28, 18 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Alphabet==&lt;br /&gt;
Shouldn&#039;t these be in alphabetical order? -[[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Logic doesn&#039;t prevail, ket.  They&#039;re stored this way in every other database, and we&#039;re following along.  Heh.  We&#039;ll work up a feature to make finding each trait easier, though, probably. ~[[User:Evkl|evkl]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Apparently logic &#039;&#039;&#039;does&#039;&#039;&#039; prevail! Aha, I win! -[[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]]&lt;br /&gt;
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All of the ability articles listed on this article are classified as stubs.  But is there really anything more to say on all of them?  Am I forgetting some major way in which these articles could be expanded?  Or can we go through and pull out all those stub tags?  --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 12:03, 17 May 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Some real description of the ability would be good. The current text is just pulled from the game - doesn&#039;t have much detail, for example, {{a|Pickup}} could do with an explanation of just what &#039;&#039;very rare, rare, uncommon, common&#039;&#039; etc. mean in terms of percentages. {{a|Blaze}} ought to explain what &#039;&#039;up&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;pinch&#039;&#039; specifically mean. And so on. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 13:55, 17 May 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Help needed==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, do someone knows someone that can get the game code so we can add the numbers to G IV abilities? [[User:Gambler|Gambler]] 04:47, 11 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
P.S. Also, I&#039;m thinking of doing a template, should I add them in numerical order or by funtionality? (Raises something, decreases something, affected by weather, affects weather, etc...)?&lt;br /&gt;
:I think we should keep the functionality things to categories, which I&#039;ve only done for the weather ones. Numerically listed or alphabetically listed in a template is good, though. And you might be able to extract them by crossreferencing one of Zhen Lin&#039;s subpages on which Pokémon has which ability with a source that shows the names for the specific abilities a Pokémon has, since I dunno any other source that gives number and name at the same time. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 09:06, 11 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: The information on [http://no3.pic.bz/document/ability.html this page] is sorted in numerical order. Also, there is no need for a template due to the sheer size of it. The region and legendary Pokémon templates are bad enough. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 11:55, 11 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mistery Dungeon Information ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Should there be a Mystery Dungeon section on abilities articles? A lot of abilities work different than they do on main games (Illuminate makes a wild pokemon appears every time the pokemon with Illuminate is hit, for example) and I think articles should note that.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Anime information ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Should we mention on the ability articles when they were used in the anime just like we have for moves? Maybe even provide pictures? That would expand them a little. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0005CD;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;☆&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#15E200;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#DC0062;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 03:13, 31 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Layout ==&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t like the layout of some abilities eg. Blaze. Because the pokemon list goes DOWN not ACROSS.--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 07:16, 19 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Why shouldn&#039;t it? [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D5AA00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C0C0C0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 22:19, 21 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Abilites Outside of battle ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it&#039;d be good if this article mentioned which abilities have effects outside of battle. Its a pain going through each one trying to find out which abilities do what. --[[User:Bulbafreak9000|Bulbafreak9000]] 21:45, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:[[:Category:Abilities by effect|Knock yourself out.]] &amp;amp;mdash; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#0000C8&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE TROM&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] &amp;amp;mdash; 09:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, I don&#039;t think this is what is meant. Think of abilities like Magma Armor, Flame Body, Intimidate, Synchronise out in the field. &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px dashed #0088FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Gywall|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF8800;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Gyw&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFAE00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;all&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px dashed #00CFFF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 09:49, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Then let us create [[:Category:Abilities with field effects]]. &amp;amp;mdash; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#0000C8&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE TROM&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] &amp;amp;mdash; 09:52, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::The list: {{a|Arena Trap}}, {{a|Illuminate}}, {{a|No Guard}}, {{a|Swarm}}, {{a|Quick Feet}}, {{a|White Smoke}}, {{a|Stench}}, {{a|Hustle}}, {{a|Pressure}}, {{a|Vital Spirit}}, {{a|Intimidate}}, {{a|Keen Eye}}, {{a|Sand Veil}}, {{a|Snow Cloak}}, {{a|Magnet Pull}}, {{a|Static}}, {{a|Cute Charm}}, {{a|Compoundeyes}}, {{a|Flame Body}}, {{a|Magma Armor}}, {{a|Pickup}}, {{a|Honey Gather}}, {{a|Sticky Hold}}, {{a|Suction Cups}}, {{a|Synchronize}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px dashed #0088FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Gywall|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF8800;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Gyw&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFAE00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;all&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px dashed #00CFFF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 10:09, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I&#039;ll get on that now then. Unless you&#039;ve started already. Hmm, must check the RC. &amp;amp;mdash; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#0000C8&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE TROM&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] &amp;amp;mdash; 10:11, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I did the end. &amp;amp;mdash; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#0000C8&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE TROM&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] &amp;amp;mdash; 10:16, 22 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Single and Dual ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Just what do those two columns mean? [[User:Thanos6|Thanos6]] 11:55, 11 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Single = how many Pokémon can have &#039;&#039;only this ability&#039;&#039;, Dual = how many Pokémon can have &#039;&#039;either this ability or an other ability&#039;&#039;. &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3fff00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;UltimateSephiroth&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User:UltimateSephiroth|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3f7f00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;about me&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3f7f00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chat&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:57, 11 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks.  Do you think we should put that in the article somewhere? [[User:Thanos6|Thanos6]] 12:02, 11 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==List of pokémons with their abilities==&lt;br /&gt;
Shouldn&#039;t there be a list of pokémons with their abilities just like it&#039;s the case with base stats, types, catch rate, etc? ... I sort of need it for the game I&#039;m making... *rolleyes* By the way, you will be the first to recieve the source code for that game since I use all of your data :) --[[User:Stoo|Stoo]] 04:06, 19 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:We haven&#039;t got one right now, but you can create it if you want to. &amp;amp;mdash;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-family:Verdana&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;darklord&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0047AB&amp;quot;&amp;gt;trom&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:42, 19 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== {{a|Illusion}} ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{a|Illusion}} is an ability in [[Generation V]], shown by {{p|Zorua}} and {{p|Zoroark}}, should we put this in the list now, or wait until we have more info? From [[User:Samjohn95|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Sam&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Samjohn95|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Purple&amp;quot;&amp;gt;john&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Teal&amp;quot;&amp;gt;95&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 22:36, 30 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, we know it exists so let&#039;s put it on the page. &amp;amp;mdash;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-family:Verdana&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;darklord&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0047AB&amp;quot;&amp;gt;trom&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 11:22, 31 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== New confirmed abilites ==&lt;br /&gt;
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EarthquakeSpiral, Encourage, Pigeon Breast/Heart,.. all new to Generation V, shouldn&#039;t these be added. Their is also TeraVoltage and TurboBlaze, but their effects haven&#039;t been revealed, so I didn&#039;t know if they would be ok to add?--[[User:S2daam|S2daam]] 15:14, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: it&#039;s more than that, the page needs a total rewrite to incorporate each Pokémon now having up to 3 abilities.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hidden Abilities? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s a good deal of information on Hidden Abilities here, such as which Pokemon have which Hidden Abilities, but I haven&#039;t been able to find any information on what a Hidden Ability is or does anywhere, either on the wiki or via Google. I have a couple of hypotheses, but I don&#039;t have either of the Generation V games, and I&#039;m not certain they exist in Gen IV. I also don&#039;t care to throw around wild conjecture because that&#039;s how rumors get started. If this information can be found, I think we should add it. [[User:VoidPointer|VoidPointer]] 01:36, 12 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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