Bulbapedia talk:Project ItemDex

2008-05-09T00:11:34Z

VampAngelDevil: /* Request for membership */

==Projects Page==
Why isn't this listed on the page that lists Bulbapedia Projects? It would be very helpful for you all if more people were aware that you have this project going on. --[[User:LynnCreed|LynnCreed]] 11:05, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

==Standards and/or infoboxes?==
I know this is a fresh project, but what kind of standards should we have for the articles? Most of the item articles will likely be like [[Potion]] and [[Held items]], with a list of items by group, so maybe these two articles (maybe Potion more than Held items) should be the basis for a standard. As for an infobox, I personally think that it would be unnecessary. What I do think is necessary, though, as I said at [[Talk:Items]], is a footer template that links the articles. --[[User:TwinsMetsFan|'''TMF''']] [[User talk:TwinsMetsFan|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/TwinsMetsFan|C]] 21:03, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
:Concur'd. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 22:11, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
::Pie, what do you think of having the TOC aligned right like I have it set up on [[Held items]]? For shorter articles, this wouldn't be necessary, but for ones with many headings (as Held items will when it is completed), the aligned-right TOC allows users to view the contents of the article while allowing those users to get right to the article. --[[User:TwinsMetsFan|'''TMF''']] [[User talk:TwinsMetsFan|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/TwinsMetsFan|C]] 17:35, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
:::I think it's a good idea, and certainly helps with the held items article. For ones with less items, such as potion and ether, I agree, it's not really necessary. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 18:03, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
:[[User:TTEchidna|TTEchidna]]'s suggestion for the organization of [[List of items by type]] (at that page's talk page) makes for a good base to draft such a template. 

{| align="center" class="toccolours" cellspacing="2"
|-valign="top" bgcolor="#ccccff"
! style="font-size:100%;" align="center" colspan="2" | '''List of Items'''
|-valign="top"
! style="font-size:95%;" bgcolor="#ccccff" align="center" colspan="2" | [[List of items by index number|by index number]]
|-valign="top"
| style="font-size:90%;" bgcolor="#f0f0f0" align="center" colspan="2" | [[List of items by index number (GB)|Generation I]] | [[List of items by index number (GBC)|Generation II]] | [[List of items by index number (GBA)|Generation III]] | [[Editing List of items by index number (DS)|Generation IV]]
|-valign="top"
! style="font-size:95%;" bgcolor="#ccccff" align="center" colspan="2" | [[List of items by type|by type]]
|-valign="top"
| style="font-size:90%;" bgcolor="#f0f0f0" align="center" | Evolution Items
| style="font-size:90%;" bgcolor="#f0f0f0" align="center" | [[Evolution-inducing held item]]s | [[Evolution stone]]s
|-valign="top"
| style="font-size:90%;" bgcolor="#f0f0f0" align="center" | [[Held item|Held Items]]
| style="font-size:90%;" bgcolor="#f0f0f0" align="center" | [[Berry|Berries]] | [[EV-enhancing item]] | [[In-battle effect item]]s | [[Incense]] | [[Mail]] | [[Plate]]s & other [[Type-enhancing item|Type-enchancers]] | [[Scarf|Scarves]]
|-valign="top"
| style="font-size:90%;" bgcolor="#f0f0f0" align="center" | [[Key item|Key Items]]
| style="font-size:90%;" bgcolor="#f0f0f0" align="center" | [[List of key items in Generation I|Generation I]] | [[List of key items in Generation II|Generation II]] | [[List of key items in Generation III|Generation III]] | [[List of key items in Generation IV|Generation IV]]
|-valign="top"
| style="font-size:90%;" bgcolor="#f0f0f0" align="center" | Medicine
| style="font-size:90%;" bgcolor="#f0f0f0" align="center" | [[Drink]]s & [[Potion]]s | [[Ether]] | Herbal Medicine | [[Revive]] | [[Status ailment healing item|Status recovery]] | [[Vitamin]]s
|-valign="top"
| style="font-size:90%;" bgcolor="#f0f0f0" align="center" | Other
| style="font-size:90%;" bgcolor="#f0f0f0" align="center" | [[Decoration]]s | [[Exchangeable item| Exchangable]] & [[Valuable item]]s | [[Fossil]]s | [[Poké Ball]] | [[Repel]] | [[TM]]s & [[HM]]s
|}

: -[[User:Pdrydia|Pdrydia]] 16:46, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

==Merging articles==
Given the sheer number of Items and how simple and similar to other items many of them are, I think we can all agree that the group articles system is best, right? So, on that note, some things which need merging...
*[[Metal Coat]], obviously, needs to be merged onto the [[held items]] page.
*[[Mach Bike]] and [[Acro Bike]] - given the size of these articles, perhaps they should be added to the main [[Bicycle]] article. I mean, personally, I don't see why they were split off.
*[[Old Rod]], [[Good Rod]] and [[Super Rod]] - again, given the size of these articles, perhaps they should be merged into a Rod article.
*[[Blue Flute]] should be in a group article with other glass flutes - or, perhaps, the glass flutes, the [[Time Flute]], and the [[Poké Flute]] should be altogether. However, despite all being flutes, the glass flutes do seem quite different from the Time Flute and Poké Flute - and it isn't unusual for us to have separate article for unusual parts of an item group which more can be said about - note all the links near the bottom of the [[Poké Ball]] article. Perhaps something like that could be done for the Flute article.
Thoughts? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 22:11, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

:Points 1 through 3: completely agree. Point 4: we should definitely create a Flute article that covers every flute. This article would be the main page for the glass flutes and would have a blurb about the Poké and Time flutes, along with a link to the main articles (using [[Template:Main]] preferably, see [[Goldenrod City]] for how I've implemented it). --[[User:TwinsMetsFan|'''TMF''']] [[User talk:TwinsMetsFan|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/TwinsMetsFan|C]] 22:32, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

::...Eh, hope you don't mind. I already merged the Rod articles into the [[Fishing]] one, and made those redirects. I maybe should've joined the project first, but I'm new here so I don't know much (though I did my research to make the redirects and headings and everything...) Now on that article we just need info on where the rods are in Sinnoh, and maybe some images too... --Memo326 15:59, 18 April 2007 (Don't know which time zone :P)

:::Doesn't seem like a very active project... Anyway, already merged the Mach and Acro Bike articles into the main [[Bicycle]] article, and made those redirects to their specific section. Also added some info on the Bike in Sinnoh and basically rewrote all of the Bicycle article... --Memo326 23:11, 11 May 2007 (Still don't know which time zone...)

::::This is Bulbapedia, all our projects are kinda slow-moving. ^^o Anyway, TTE has been disputing the idea of not giving articles to the individual items... essentially giving us one or two big overall articles (item and the list), a good number of articles for the item families, and a buttload of short individual articles. So, I eventually gave him an ultimatum... that the only way we can have the individual item articles is if people can show me that they can expand articles enough that we won't have ten billion stubs on our hands. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 05:03, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

:::::Eh... I think I should've read this before I merged the Nugget article into the [[Valuable item]]s one and the Heart Scale article into the [[Exchangeable item]]s one (which I made from scratch =) )... Hope it wasn't his/her (:S) work I had reverted... Anyway, I particularly think we should have these articles on groups of items rather than each individual item having its own article. I mean... that's the only thing I've been doing since I joined XD. --Memo326 23:37, 16 May 2007

::::::Update: Well, at least the Nugget article wasn't TTEchidna's. ^_^; --Memo326, like 2 seconds later.

== Items in Generation IV/Diamond Pearl ==

Some of the Item locations for the first three Generations swap between the games and grouping the entire Generations, which seems OK enough as some items are found the same way in every game in that Generation, but where there already is Diamond/Pearl information, a lot of it is tagged as Generation IV data. Considering there are likely to be quite a number of additions to Generation IV and that it can't be confirmed that the same methods will be distributed across all the games, I'd say it makes sense just to use ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]]) for now and, should the method ring true for every game in the Generation by the time Generation V comes along, just edit that to Generation IV instead.

I've done this with all the items in the Held Items page, but would like to put forward that it become a standard.--[[User:Doctor Oak|Doctor Oak]] 17:35, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

:This seems relevant to your project, so I thought I'd give you a heads up. There's now a [[List of key items in Generation IV]]. It could use a proofread or two and is missing out on both sprites and some descriptions of items that leave inventory after use. -[[User:Pdrydia|Pdrydia]] 23:09, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

== Request for membership ==

I was wondering, can I join Project ItemDex? I feel that I can contribute to the many item pages around the site, as I have the time now to do so.
[[User:CastformRED|CastformRED]] 07:08, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I would really like to join Project ItemDex for the sake of helping out. I think it is a wonderful project.
~VAD

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