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History of Pokémon

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[[Image:Satoshitajiri.jpg|right|frame|Satoshi Tajiri]]The '''history of the Pokémon media franchise''' spans over a decade from when work began officially on the first game to now, and has roots even older. It started simply enough as a hobby of [[Satoshi Tajiri]], who as a child had a fondness for catching {{wp|insect}}s and {{wp|tadpole}}s near his home in suburban {{wp|Tokyo}}. Over time, Tajiri decided to put his idea of catching creatures into practice because it would give children the same thrill as he had.

==Early days==
[[Image:ShiMiy.jpg|thumb|left|Shigeru Miyamoto]]With the help of [[Ken Sugimori]] and other friends, Tajiri formed [[Game Freak]] and much later the design studio known as [[Creatures]]. When Tajiri discovered the [[Game Boy]] and the [[Link cable|Game Boy Link Cable]], it gave him the image of insects traveling along the wire, which led to concept for a new game called ''[[Capsule Monsters]]''. After several failed attempts at pitching this idea to [[Nintendo]], Tajiri's new friend [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] pitched it to the company, and Nintendo began to fund the project, spending six years developing the games that would become a worldwide sensation. The original artwork for the games was drawn by Tajiri's friend, the artist [[Ken Sugimori]]. Before the first Pokémon games were released in Japan in 1996, sprites of {{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Mew}}, {{p|Meowth}}, {{p|Bulbasaur}}, {{p|Charmander}} and {{p|Squirtle}} appeared in Game Freak's [[Game Boy Camera]] in 1995. Around this time, Nintendo decided to change the name "Capsule Monsters" to "Pocket Monsters."

==Generation I==
===Taking over Japan===
[[Image:Pokemon_green_box_ja.jpg|thumb|right|Pokémon Green Box]]The first [[Pokémon games]], [[Pokémon Red and Green Versions]], came to the [[Nintendo]] [[Game Boy]] system in Japan on February 27th, 1996, which was the fulfillment of Satoshi Tajiri's dream and allowed people of all ages to [[Captured Pokémon|catch]], [[Pokémon training|train]] and [[trade]] {{cat|Generation I Pokémon|151 creatures}} and become a [[Pokémon Master]]. Due to high sales, Pokémon Red and Green were swiftly followed up with [[Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|Pokémon Blue]], which had improved graphics and sounds.

After the games, a [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]] was developed by Media Factory with its own set of rules. The {{TCG|Base Set|first set}} of cards was released on October 20th, 1996, containing 102 cards, and became very popular.

The popularity of the franchise also led to an {{pkmn|anime}} series based on the games, [[EP001|premiering]] in Japan on April 1st, 1997. The main character was a young [[Pokémon Trainer]] named ''Satoshi'' (after [[Satoshi Tajiri]], later dubbed in English to [[Ash Ketchum]]), based on {{ga|Red}}. Another character introduced in the first episode was Satoshi's [[rival]], ''Shigeru'' (after [[Shigeru Miyamoto]], later dubbed in English to [[Gary Oak]]), based on {{ga|Blue}}.

The franchise also won many manga interpretations, the first being {{ma|Pocket Monsters}}. The more famous manga in the western world, however, is [[Pokémon Special]], [[Pokémon Special volume 1|the first volume of which]] was first published in Japan on August 8th, 1997.

[[Shogakukan]] published the first volume of ''[[Pokémon Wonderland]]'', a magazine with the latest information on the franchise, on August 23rd, 1997.

On April 25th, 1998, the first [[Pokémon Center (store)|''Pokémon Center'' store]] was opened in Tokyo, specializing in Pokémon merchandise. Along the way, [[The Pokémon Company]] began its operations. Many such stores were opened in later years, and today there are six different stores across Japan, as well as one in New York.

===Conquering the world===
North America received {{2v|Red|Blue}}, as well as the anime, in September 1998 (the anime on the 7th and the games on the 30th), and soon everywhere else began to play the games on the Game Boy under the slogan ''[[Gotta Catch 'em All!]]''. The {{pkmn|Trading Card Game}} was also introduced to North America on January 9th, 1999 by [[Wizards of the Coast]].

[[Image:Anime_Ash.png|thumb|left|Ash Ketchum from the anime]]Meanwhile in Japan in 1998, a new spin-off game, {{Jap|Pokémon Stadium}}, was released for [[Nintendo 64]]. This game featured only 42 Pokémon of the full 151. The game wasn't very successful, though.

The {{pkmn|anime}}, on the other hand, pushed the franchise to new heights. On July 18th, 1998, ''[[Mewtwo Strikes Back|Pokémon the First Movie]]'' debuted in Japanese theaters, featuring the rare {{p|Mew}} and {{p|Mewtwo}}. In the United States, where it was released on November 10th, 1999, the movie even briefly held the record for highest-grossing opening for an animated film.

Plans soon started for a game based on the popular anime and {{v|Yellow}} was released September 12th, 1998 in Japan, October 25th, 1999 in North America and Europe. Pokémon Yellow allowed Trainers to take on the role of {{Ash}} and travel through [[Kanto]] with anime-style graphics for each Pokémon and a [[Red's Pikachu (game)|Pikachu]] by their side, following the anime's course of events.

===Expanding to spin-offs===
On December 18th, 1998 a [[Pokémon Trading Card Game (game)|Game Boy game based on the TCG]] was released, later arriving in North America on April 10th, 2000. It was followed, only in Japan, a year later by a sequel titled {{Card GB 2}}.

The anime, as well as {{game|Yellow}}, marked {{p|Pikachu}} as one of (if not ''the'') most popular and recognized creatures in Pokémon history. This led to a small spin-off game called [[Hey You, Pikachu!]], which was released in Japan on December 12th, 1998, and in North America on November 6th, 2000. This was a virtual-pet game, utilizing the [[Nintendo 64]]'s Voice Recognition Unit to let one interact verbally with Pikachu.

When the anime finished following the games story with {{Ash}}'s defeat in the [[Pokémon League]] in January 1999, it [[EP081|started]] a [[Pokémon: The Adventures in the Orange Islands|filler season]] in a new region called the [[Orange Archipelago]], introducing the new main character of [[Tracey Sketchit]]. During this season's time, a second movie, ''[[The Power of One|Pokémon the Movie 2000]]'', was produced. It was first in Japanese theaters on July 17th, 1999, and in North American theaters on July 21st, 2000.

A non-traditional spin-off game for [[Nintendo 64]], {{g|Snap}}, was released in Japan on March 21st, 1999, inviting the player (in the role of [[Todd Snap]], a character previously introduced in the anime) to a Pokémon photographing mission in a place called [[Pokémon Island]]. This game made its way to North America on July 27th, 1999.

On April 14th, 1999, a spin-off pinball game for the [[Game Boy Color]] was released, called {{g|Pinball}}. This game took all the mechanics of regular pinball, with some Pokémon aspects added in. Its North American release was on June 28th, 1999.

A sequel to the {{Jap|Pokémon Stadium}} was also eventually released in Japan on April 30th, 1999, and became a success. This game reached North America on February 29th, 2000, and became known there as the original {{Eng|Pokémon Stadium}}. The twist in the Stadium series from the [[version|main series]] was that it featured the Pokémon in 3D.

[[Image:Pokemon Live cover.jpg|thumb|right|''Pokémon Live!'' CD cover]]In September 2000, the anime-based puzzle game {{g|Puzzle League}} was released for [[Nintendo 64]]. This game was the only Pokémon game to be made specifically for western audiences and not be released in Japan.

However, this was not the only American-made original Pokémon material. From 2000 to 2002, an anime-based musical called ''[[Pokémon Live!]]'' was shown on stages around the world. The most memorable plot point in the musical was the revelation that {{Ash}}'s mother, {{Delia}}, used to be a friend of [[Giovanni]] when they were younger. The musical isn't considered [[canon]], but it sparked endless theories among fans regarding the identity of Ash's father.

==Generation II==
===Winds of new beginnings===
[[Image:JohtoII.png|thumb|left|A map of Johto]]Almost since the very beginning, it was known that 151 was not the end of things. {{p|Ho-Oh}} was seen as early as [[EP001|the first episode of the anime]], {{TP|Misty|Togepi}} was owned by a [[Misty|main character]], and others like {{p|Marill}}, {{p|Snubbull}} and {{p|Donphan}} were seen in [[Mewtwo Strikes Back|the first movie]]. Later, when [[Generation II|the second generation]] of Pokémon was drawing nearer, others like {{p|Lugia}}, {{p|Slowking}} and {{p|Elekid}} made their way to [[The Power of One|the second movie]].

On November 21st, 1999, Nintendo of Japan released {{2v|Gold|Silver}} for the then-new [[Game Boy Color]]. This time, {{pkmn|Trainer}}s were invited to the land of [[Johto]], where {{cat|Generation II Pokémon|100 more Pokémon}} were waiting to be captured.

The new games enhanced the Pokémon gaming experience by adding many new features, the most famous of which probably being [[gender]]s for most Pokémon, which allowed for {{pkmn|breeding}}. Also, [[time]] came into play, which allowed for differing events in the day, night, and morning, and [[days of the week]]. Another important addition was the [[happiness]] system. [[Alternate coloration]] also first appeared, most importantly the [[Red Gyarados]] at the [[Lake of Rage]]. Trainers could also return to [[Kanto]] and face the [[Gym Leader]]s that existed in the original games. Pokémon Gold and Silver made its way to North America on October 11th, 2000.

The anime followed, of course, and {{Ash}} and {{Ashfr|his friends}} also arrived at Johto in [[EP117|an episode]] that aired in Japan on October 14th, 1999 and in the US on October 14th, 2000. ''[[Spell of the Unown|Pokémon 3: The Movie]]'' was then released to theaters on July 8th, 2000 in Japan and on April 6th, 2001 in North America, featuring the legendary {{p|Entei}}.

A new trading card set called [[Neo Genesis]] featured the first Generation II Pokémon to the {{pkmn|Trading Card Game}}. It was released in Japan on December 10, 1999 and in USA on December 16, 2000.

A sequel to {{g|Puzzle League}} was released on September 21st, 2000 for [[Game Boy Color]], this time in Japan, titled {{g|Puzzle Challenge}}. It made its way to North America on December 4th, 2000.

[[Image:Stadium2.jpg|thumb|right|Pokémon Stadium 2 Box]]On December 14th, 2000, a sequel to the Stadium series was released in Japan called {{g|Stadium 2}}, bringing the [[Generation II]] Pokémon into full 3D for the first time. This game reached North America on March 25th, 2001.

Like Pokémon Yellow, a [[third version]] was made in Japan called {{v|Crystal}} and was released December 14th, 2000 in Japan and July 21st, 2001 in North America. Pokémon Crystal had several changes made. {{p|Suicune}} was the title character and the focus of the plot. This was also the first portable Pokémon game that featured animations for every Pokémon. Trainers in Japan received an added bonus of receiving the Pokémon known as {{p|Celebi}} through a wireless link, and also being able to trade wirelessly using a cellphone and the Mobile Adapter. Trainers were, for the first time, allowed to choose their character's [[gender]].

===Anime and manga in GS===
On December 30th, 2000, the first feature-length special of the Pokémon anime was released in Japan as a sequel to ''[[Mewtwo Strikes Back]]'', titled ''[[Mewtwo Returns]]''. It was later released on DVD in the United States on December 5th, 2001.

Another movie, ''[[Pokémon 4Ever]]'', debuted in theaters in Japan on July 7th, 2001, and in North America on October 25th, 2002. It featured two [[legendary Pokémon]] prominent in {{game|Crystal}}: {{p|Celebi}} and {{p|Suicune}}.

The [[Pokémon Special]] manga finally caught up to the second generation on August 8th, 2001, when [[Pokémon Special volume 8|Volume 8]] was published in Japan, starting [[Gold, Silver & Crystal chapter (Special)|a new chapter]].

{{p|Raikou}}, the only member of the [[Legendary Beasts]] yet to be featured in an anime movie, received its own made-for-TV special, ''[[The Legend of Thunder!]]'', on December 30th, 2001. This special didn't feature {{Ash}} and {{Ashfr|his friends}}, but rather new characters based on the [[player character]]s of the second generation.

On July 13th, 2002, the fifth and last movie of the [[original series]], ''[[Pokémon Heroes]]'', was released in Japanese theaters. Distributed on limited release by [[Miramax]], it opened in select American theaters on May 16th, 2003.

==Generation III==
===Advancing to a new age===
[[Image:207episode.jpg|left|thumb|The first Kecleon]]In July 2001 [[EP205|an episode]] of the anime aired in Japan featuring a Pokémon never previously seen - {{p|Kecleon}}. Soon, Kecleon and others like {{p|Wynaut}}, {{p|Azurill}}, {{p|Duskull}} and {{p|Volbeat}} showed up in theaters in 2 [[PK10|Pikachu]] [[PK11|shorts]] while {{p|Wailmer}}, {{p|Latias}} and {{p|Latios}} were featured in [[Pokémon Heroes|the fifth]] Pokémon movie. During the [[Silver Conference]] Ash battled {{jo|Harrison}}, a Trainer from [[Littleroot Town]] in [[Hoenn]]. [[Professor Birch]], along {{p|Poochyena|with}} {{p|Lotad|other}} {{p|Sharpedo|Pokémon}}, made a cameo in ''[[EP272|Johto Photo Finish]]''. Through them, it became known that the next generation of Pokémon was just around the corner.

Indeed, a major overhaul of the game series occurred when Pokémon arrived on the [[Game Boy Advance]] on November 21st, 2002 when {{2v|Ruby|Sapphire}} were released in Japan. Trainers found themselves in the southern land called [[Hoenn]] where {{cat|Generation III Pokémon|135 new Pokémon}} were waiting to be discovered. The games reached North America on March 18th 2003 and had many new features, the most prominent ones being [[Pokémon Contests]], [[double battle]]s, Pokémon [[abilities]] and [[natures]] for each Pokémon, along with the reform of [[effort values]] and [[individual values]]. Also new in these versions were the more detailed [[weather conditions]] and the new villains: [[Team Magma]] and [[Team Aqua]]. Due to the overhaul in the system, however, this generation was not compatible with earlier generations.

The anime started a new series, [[Advanced Generation series|Advanced Generation]], which [[AG001|started]] in Japan on the same day as the release of the games, and reached North America almost a year later. A lot was changed in this series, including the introduction of a new main character, {{an|May}}, based on her game counterpart. Two new movies were produced during the time in [[Hoenn]]: ''[[Jirachi: Wish Maker]]'' (which was released on July 19th, 2003 in Japan and on June 1st, 2004 on video and DVD in North America) and ''[[Destiny Deoxys]]'' (which was released on July 17th, 2004 in Japan and on January 22nd, 2005 on North American television).

Around the same time of the {{series|Advanced Generation}}, a show called ''[[Weekly Pokémon Broadcasting Station]]'' began to air weekly in Japan, focusing not on {{Ash}}, but on other characters of the anime, such as [[Misty]], [[Brock]], {{Tracey}}, {{Gary}}, [[Ritchie]], {{an|Casey}} and [[Sakura]]. The English dubbed version, ''[[Pokémon Chronicles]]'', first aired in the United Kingdom in May 2005, finally dubbing ''[[The Legend of Thunder!]]'' special to English along the way, three and a half years after its original Japanese airing.

[[Nintendo]] transferred the {{pkmn|Trading Card Game}} license from [[Wizards of the Coast]] to itself in 2003, and released {{TCG|EX Ruby & Sapphire|its first set}} on January 31st, introducing new game mechanics and a new card design. This set was released in North America on June 18th, 2003.

===More spin-offs===
To solve the problem of limited Pokémon storage in the continuously growing Pokémon world, {{g|Box Ruby & Sapphire}} was released May 30th 2003 in Japan, July 11th 2004 in North America, allowing Trainers to store up to 1,500 Pokémon from their Generation III games.

A small spin-off game named {{g|Channel}} for [[Nintendo GameCube|GameCube]] was released in Japan on July 13th, 2003, about a TV-broadcasting network that airs a variety of Pokémon programs, with the player as test audience. This game also included a unique anime episode, ''[[Pichu Bros. in Party Panic]]'', and it reached North America on December 1st, 2003.

On July 28th, 2003, [[Pokémon Special volume 15|Volume 15]] of the [[Pokémon Special]] manga was first published, starting [[Ruby & Sapphire chapter (Special)|another chapter]] for the manga, following the third generation story.

A sequel to {{g|Pinball}} met the third generation in {{g|Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire}} for [[Game Boy Advance]] on August 1st, 2003 in Japan and on August 23rd, 2003 in North America.

The 3D version of [[Generation III]] came in the form of {{g|Colosseum}} on November 21st, 2003 in Japan and March 22nd, 2004 in North America on the [[Nintendo GameCube|GameCube]]. Unlike the [[Pokémon Stadium series]], this game also featured an RPG taking place in the desolate [[region]] of [[Orre]]. The main new addition to the Pokémon universe in this game was [[Shadow Pokémon]].

===Back to Kanto and onward to the Battle Frontier===
[[Image:Pokemon_FireRed_boxart_EN-US.jpg|thumb|right|Pokémon FireRed Version Box]]On January 29th, 2004, two new [[version|games]] were released in Japan: {{2v|FireRed|LeafGreen}}. They arrived in North America on September 9th, 2004, and were remakes of {{game|Red and Blue|s}}, only in Generation III standards, wireless connection and with an added region - the [[Sevii Islands]]. They also gave [[Event Pokémon]] {{p|Deoxys}} [[Form differences|two additional forms]] which could only be obtained by moving Deoxys over to those games.

Not finished with the [[Hoenn]] story, Game Freak developed a third version to go with Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire, called {{v|Emerald}}. This game was released in Japan on September 16th, 2004, and in North America on May 1st, 2005. Emerald featured the same wireless connection as in FireRed and LeafGreen, as well as a return to Hoenn with many new features, including the Hoenn {{ho|Battle Frontier}}, re-battling Gym Leaders, changes in plot and animations for all Pokémon, like in Pokémon Crystal.

The {{pkmn|anime}} [[AG132|caught up]] with both the Generation I remakes and Emerald by having the group travel back to [[Kanto]] and face the Kanto {{ho|Battle Frontier}} there. During this season's time two more movies were produced: ''[[Lucario and the Mystery of Mew]]'' (premiering in Japan on July 16th, 2005) and ''[[Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]]'' (debuting in Japanese cinemas on July 15th, 2006).

On August 28, 2006, [[Pokémon Special volume 22| volume 22]] of the [[Pokémon Special]] was published, starting the {{chap|FireRed & LeafGreen}}, and on June 23, 2007, [[Pokémon Special volume 26| volume 26]] of the [[Pokémon Special]] was published, starting the {{chap|Emerald}}.

===Original new concepts===
A spin-off racing game called {{g|Dash}} was released in Japan on December 2nd, 2004 and in North America on March 14th, 2005. It was the first of many Pokémon games to come made for [[Nintendo DS]].

On August 4th, 2005, Trainers were invited back to [[Orre]] in {{g|XD: Gale of Darkness}}, a sequel to {{g|Colosseum}} taking place about five years later. This game found its way to North America on October 3rd, 2005.

A spin-off puzzle game, {{g|Trozei!}}, was released on October 20th, 2005 in Japan and on March 6th, 2006 in North America. The game had a story mode, which followed [[Lucy Fleetfoot]] as she attempted to take down the [[Phobos Battalion]].

Starting with the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game|TCG]] expansion {{TCG|EX Delta Species}}, which was released on October 28th, 2005 in Japan and 3 days later in the United States, a new special kind of Pokémon called {{TCG|δ Delta Species}} was introduced. δ Delta Species Pokémon were found only in a few TCG expansions, and were given a backstory involving a new region called [[Holon]].

[[Image:Ranger_box.jpg|thumb|left|210px|Pokémon Ranger Box]]A new concept saw light on November 17th, 2005, with [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 1|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]] - a pair of games, one for [[Game Boy Advance]] and one for [[Nintendo DS]] - in which the {{player}} is turned into a Pokémon at the beginning of the game. The games, that were released in North America on September 18th, 2006, have received adaptations in the anime episode ''[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Team Go-Getters out of the Gate!]]'' and the manga series ''[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Ginji's Rescue Team]]''.

Another new twist on Pokémon came in the spin-off [[Nintendo DS]] game {{ga|Pokémon Ranger}} on March 23rd, 2006. This time, players didn't play regular [[Pokémon Trainer]]s, but {{OBP|Pokémon Ranger|Ranger series}}s traveling the land of [[Fiore]] with a device called the [[Capture Styler]] instead of [[Poké Ball]]s. It was released in the North America on October 30th, 2006. The game was also promoted in the anime through the appearance of Pokémon Rangers in [[AG155|the main series]], [[AG171|a special episode]] and [[Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea|the ninth movie]].

===Ten years of Pokémon===
2006 was marked officially as Pokémon's tenth anniversary, and was celebrated as such in many ways, such as [[Pokémon 10th Anniversary Journey Across America|Journey Across America]]. Among other things, an English CD was released titled ''[[Pokémon X]] - 10 Years of Pokémon''.

On April 29th, 2006, a special episode of the {{pkmn|anime}} called ''[[The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon]]'' was broadcast in the United States. This was the first episode to use [[The Pokémon Company International]]'s new voice actors (Pokémon USA at the time), causing big [[Pokémon USA recasting controversy|controversy]] among the Pokémon fan community. The special was eventually broadcast in Japan as streaming video from the TV Tokyo ''Anitele'' web site from October 13th to October 31st, 2006.

In fall 2006, another section of the Pokémon franchise was created in the form of the [[Pokémon Trading Figure Game]] in Europe, Australia, and Southeast Asia, made by {{wp|Kaiyodo}}. The figures reached North America and Japan in 2007.

==Generation IV==
===Diamond and Pearl===
[[Image:Lucariodvdfc0.jpg|thumb|right|Lucario and the Mystery of Mew]]Just like with {{p|Kecleon}} in [[Generation III]], the public learned of [[Generation IV]] through a new Pokémon - {{p|Munchlax}} - in May 2004. Munchlax was soon featured in {{g|Dash}}, as well as [[Destiny Deoxys|the seventh movie]] and later [[May's Munchlax|the main anime]]. Others such as {{p|Lucario}}, {{p|Bonsly}}, {{p|Mime Jr.}} and {{p|Weavile}} then made their way to [[Lucario and the Mystery of Mew|the eighth movie]], and {{p|Mantyke}}, {{p|Buizel}} and {{p|Chatot}} appeared in [[Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea|the ninth]], which featured {{p|Manaphy}} - a new [[legendary Pokémon]] that even became obtainable in {{ga|Pokémon Ranger}}.

{{2v|Diamond|Pearl}} were eventually released for [[Nintendo DS]] in Japan on September 28th, 2006, and in North America on April 22nd, 2007. Along with {{cat|Generation IV Pokémon|107 new Pokémon}} in the new huge land of [[Sinnoh]], these games offered an actual 3D rendering of the overworld, the return of the [[time]] system, [[List of Pokémon with gender differences|gender differences between Pokémon]], a split between [[physical move|physical]] and [[special move]]s, and [[Pokémon Super Contest]]s.

The anime [[Diamond & Pearl series]] [[DP001|started]] in Japan and in the US in synchronization with the release of the games. Like the previous series, it introduced a new female character, {{an|Dawn}}, based on her game counterpart.

The three {{pkmn|movie}}s of this series, while so far being only partway through, form a continuous trilogy. The first part of the trilogy, ''[[The Rise of Darkrai]]'', premiered on July 14th, 2007 in Japanese theaters, and aired on February 24th, 2008 on North American televisions. The [[Giratina and the Sky Warrior|second part]] premiered in Japan on July 19th, 2008, and aired on February 13th, 2009 on North American televisions.

A new [[Diamond & Pearl (TCG)|TCG set]] was released in Japan on November 30, 2006 and in the USA on May 23, 2007, featuring the new Pokémon from [[Sinnoh]].

===New sequels===
[[Image:PBRAmerican.jpg|thumb|left|175px|Pokémon Battle Revolution Box]]On December 14th, 2006, two weeks after the launch of Nintendo's [[Wii]] console, [[Generation IV]] Pokémon turned 3D in the form of {{g|Battle Revolution}}. It was released in the United States on June 25th, 2007.

The [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2|paired sequels for]] [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 1|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]] for [[Nintendo DS]] were released in Japan on September 13th, 2007 and in North America on April 20th, 2008. Just like before, {{an|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2|an anime adaptation}} was also produced. It was followed by a third version, [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|Explorers of Sky]], which was released in Japan on April 18th, 2009. Just like the third versions of the main series, Explorers of Sky had additional content. {{an|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky|Another anime adaptation}} was produced as well.

{{OBP|Pokémon Ranger|Ranger series}}s were also brought into the fourth generation in a sequel called {{g|Ranger: Shadows of Almia}}, set in the new land of [[Almia]]. It was released in Japan on March 20th, 2008 and in North America on November 10th, 2008. [[DP071|An anime special]] was also produced, and aired on the same day as the Japanese release.

Like with Pokémon Box in Generation III, a storage game titled [[My Pokémon Ranch]] was released on March 25th, 2008 in Japan and on June 9th, 2008 in North America, featuring the character of [[Hayley]].

The third [[version]] of [[Generation IV]], {{v|Platinum}}, was released on September 13th, 2008 in Japan and on March 22nd, 2009 in North America, bringing new [[Form differences|Pokémon forms]] into the ring for {{p|Giratina}}, {{p|Shaymin}}, and {{p|Rotom}}, as well as updates similar to those found in Pokémon Emerald.

==The future of Pokémon==
[[Image:GSDS_logo.png|right|thumb|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver's logos]]The history of the Pokémon media franchise already spans long over a decade, and is rich with four [[generation]]s, many [[version|main series games]], [[Spin-off Pokémon games|spin-off games]], a {{pkmn|Trading Card Game}}, three series of {{pkmn|anime}} complete with 11 {{pkmn|movie}}s, endless {{pkmn|manga}}, [[Pokémon Live!|a musical]], and plenty of {{cat|music}}, but it is far from over.

{{game|Platinum}} was first released in Japan on September 13, 2008, with subsequent releases in North America on March 22, 2009, and PAL regions staggered through May 2009. This game ended the [[Generation IV]] story set in the Sinnoh region, but like [[Generation III]] brought about remakes for the incompatible [[Generation I]] games, a remake of the [[Generation II]] Pokémon games, {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}, has been confirmed to be released for the [[Nintendo DS]] titled {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}. The paired games are expected to be available in Japan in fall, 2009.

The [[Arceus: To a Conquering Spacetime|last part]] of the {{series|Diamond & Pearl}} movie trilogy has already been confirmed, but little is known about it. It is set to premiere in Japanese theaters on July 18, 2009.

It is widely believed that a [[Future generations of Pokémon|fifth generation of Pokémon]] is inevitable, and that the [[Pokémon world]] will continue to grow with it. While no official announcement has been made by the game developers, anime director [[Masamitsu Hidaka]] said in an interview that there will definitely be a fifth generation of Pokémon. The new generation will probably extend the Pokémon universe in similar fashion as the older generations did, with new Pokémon, a new region, new characters and features. However, no details have been confirmed and there is only a vague picture of the future of Pokémon: only time shall tell.

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Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions

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''This article is about the [[Generation IV]] {{pkmn|games}}. For other uses, see [[Diamond and Pearl]].''
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{{Infobox_game |
name = Pokémon Diamond and Pearl |
boxart = [[Image:DiamondUS.jpg|200px]][[Image:PearlUS.jpg|200px]]|
caption = Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions' boxart, featuring {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}}. |
category = RPG |
players = 1-4 players simultaneous |
platform = [[Nintendo DS]] |
Wi-Fi compatible = Yes |
release_date_ja = September 28, 2006 |
release_date_au = June 21, 2007 |
release_date_eu = July 27, 2007<ref>http://www.nintendo-europe.com/NOE/en/GB/news/article.do?elementId=DK-gQHfSlatZXa1pJsBmTKyS35vdrsBS</ref>|
release_date_na = April 22, 2007 |
release_date_kr = February 14, 2008 |
publisher = [[Nintendo]]/[[The Pokémon Company]] |
developer = [[Game Freak]] |
esrb = E for Everyone |
staff = yes |
stafflink = Staff of Pokémon Diamond and Pearl |
website_en = [http://pokemon-games.com/pokemondandp/ US Pokémon DP Site] |
website_ja = [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/game/ds/dp/index.html ポケットモンスターダイヤモンド・パール] |
}}
{{StrategyWiki|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl}}
'''Pokémon Diamond Version''' (Japanese: '''ポケットモンスターダイヤモンド''' ''Pocket Monsters Diamond'') and '''Pokémon Pearl Version''' (Japanese: '''ポケットモンスターパール''' ''Pocket Monsters Pearl'') are the first [[main series]] Pokémon RPGs released on the [[Nintendo DS]], beginning [[Generation IV]]. The games were released in Japan on September 28, 2006 and in North America on April 22, 2007. They take place in the region of [[Sinnoh]] and the {{player}}'s starting area is [[Twinleaf Town]].

==Plot==
At the start, the player sees a [[television|newscast]] about a sighting of a [[Alternate coloration|red]] {{p|Gyarados}}. They then head to their {{ga|Pearl|best friend}}'s house and go to [[Lake Verity]] with him to see if there are any similar Pokémon living in it. Once there, two wild {{p|Starly}} attack. Nearby is a briefcase containing [[Starter Pokémon|three Pokémon]] that the two choose from to fight off the {{type2|Flying}}. As is always the case, the player's best friend, who becomes the rival, takes the Pokémon that weakens the player's choice. The professor's assistant, who is the alternate-[[gender]] player character from the player, takes the remaining starter. After the Starly is defeated, the two return to Twinleaf Town with [[Professor Rowan]]'s briefcase. Back in Twinleaf Town the player's mother gives him or her running shoes and then the player leaves for Sandgem Town to return the briefcase. After meeting Professor Rowan, he gives the player the Pokémon they chose to keep and a [[Pokédex]]. This sets one of the primary aims in the game, completing the Pokedex. The player then sets off to explore Sinnoh and defeat [[Gym Leaders]] in order to advance further in the plot, challenge the [[Elite Four]] and become the [[Champion]] of Sinnoh(another primary aim).

During the course of the game, there are many conflicts with the evil [[Team Galactic]] and their leader, [[Cyrus]]. When the power of {{p|Dialga}} or {{p|Palkia}} (depending on the version), summoned by [[Cyrus]](the arch antagonist), begins to overwhelm Sinnoh, {{p|Uxie}}, {{p|Mesprit}} and {{p|Azelf}} appear and negate the power flow, and the player must catch or defeat the legendary.

After the Elite Four, there is some extra storyline left, mainly concerning capturing previously not available (legendary)Pokémon, extra-features such as the PokéRadar, exploring previously unaccessable places such as the Fight, Survival and Resort Area and perfectioning battle skills(Battle Tower).

==Connectivity==
[[{{ns:6}}:Pokémon Pearl.jpg|right|thumb|NSTC Pokémon Pearl DS card]]

*Diamond and Pearl are compatible with the [[Generation III|Game Boy Advance Pokémon RPGs]] after seeing the first 150 Pokémon in the Sinnoh Dex. The GBA cartridge is inserted into the GBA slot of the Nintendo DS, while Diamond or Pearl is in its DS card slot to upload Pokémon.
*Pokémon uploads are restricted to six per 24-hour period per GBA cartridge, and the player will have to re-capture such transferred Pokémon in [[Pal Park]] located at the end of [[Route 221]] before transferring from another GBA game. Pokémon knowing any of the [[Generation III]] [[HM]] [[move]]s ({{m|Cut}}, {{m|Fly}}, {{m|Surf}}, {{m|Strength}}, {{m|Flash}}, {{m|Rock Smash}}, {{m|Waterfall}}, and {{m|Dive}}) cannot be transferred; therefore, it is necessary to go to the [[Move Deleter]] in [[Fuchsia City]] or [[Lilycove City]] to remove them before transfer.
*The player cannot transfer any of the Pokémon back to the GBA cartridge once they are transferred to their Diamond/Pearl copy; the transfer is permanent.
*While a GBA game is in the DS, [[dual-slot mode]] activates and it becomes possible to capture Pokémon in the wild in Sinnoh that do not natively appear, though this may only happen after the [[National Dex]] is obtained.
*The DS's native support for Wi-Fi is employed, allowing players to trade, battle and communicate using "voice chat" online.
*Diamond and Pearl feature wireless connectivity to [[Pokémon Battle Revolution]], much as their predecessors connected to the [[Nintendo 64]] and [[GameCube]] and their respective battle arena games.
*Diamond and Pearl feature a global trading system, which allows trainers to search for any Pokémon they want, or put up one of their own Pokémon for trade for any Pokémon. Players of other games can search for the Pokémon that others have put onto the [[Global Trade Station]].
*Diamond and Pearl feature connectivity to {{ga|Pokémon Ranger}}. By completing a special mission in Ranger, an [[Pokémon egg|Egg]] can be sent from Ranger to Diamond or Pearl, where it can be hatched into the legendary Pokémon, {{p|Manaphy}}.
*Diamond and Pearl also feature connectivity to [[Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia]]. By completing three special missions in the game, a {{p|Manaphy}} {{pkmn|egg}}, a {{p|Riolu}} with {{m|Aura Sphere}} and a {{p|Darkrai}} with {{m|Dark Void}} can be sent from the game to Diamond or Pearl.
*Diamond and Pearl also feature connection to the [[Wii|WiiWare]] title [[My Pokémon Ranch]], in which Pokémon can be raised and stored in a farm-like environment, much like [[Generation III]]'s [[Pokémon Box: Ruby & Sapphire]].

==Features==
The day-night system first appearing in [[Generation II]] returns, with the same three [[time]] periods, but better transitioning between them. A new multifunction device called the [[Pokétch]], short for Pokémon Watch, is also introduced. The [[Pokémon professor|regional Professor]]'s name is [[Professor Rowan]], after [[wp:Rowan|a tree]] like the others, and he allows the player and his or her rival to keep the [[starter Pokémon]] they used against attacking wild Pokémon at the beginning of the game.

A new battle system is used for Pokémon Diamond and Pearl. In this new battle system, attacks are declared either physical or special by how the attack itself operates, i.e. whether the attack touches the enemy or not, instead of the attack type, as was previously the case. For example, {{m|ThunderPunch}} is now [[physical move|physical]] and {{m|Hyper Beam}} turns into [[special move|special]]. This was initially highly controversial with fans of the series, as it was considered to "waste" some of the Pokémon that were more powerful in [[Generation III]], like {{p|Blaziken}} and {{p|Sceptile}}, though it now allows for a more versatile set of moves to be viable for these Pokémon.

Though it was reported initially that the games would feature {{t|Dark}}/{{t|Psychic}}/{{t|Fighting}} starters, this is not the case. The games retain the starters in the type trio of previous generations, {{t|Grass}}/{{t|Fire}}/{{t|Water}}, this time being {{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Chimchar}}, and {{p|Piplup}}, respectively.

===Contests===
{{main|Pokémon Super Contest}}
In Pokémon Diamond and Pearl, a significant amount of changes have been made to the Pokémon Contests introduced in [[Generation III]], now known as Super Contests.

Instead of making [[Pokéblock]]s with berries, berry-flavored muffins called [[Poffin]] are made. This is done in [[Hearthome City]], though not within the contest hall, instead it is done at the Poffin House, which is near the Pokémon Center in Hearthome. Using the DS's touchscreen, players must stir the Poffin as directed by arrows that appear.

The first round of the contests themselves is similar to the first round in Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald, but instead of relying solely on contest stats, Pokémon must be dressed up using [[Accessory|accessories]] with the stylus within a time limit. Each particular contest will require different accessories, and higher ranks may require more to be put on the Pokémon.

The second round is a dancing round, using buttons on the touch screen to either perform a dance that the others will find hard to mimic (if the player's Pokémon is the main dancer) or to copy the lead Pokémon's dance moves. Each Pokémon gets a turn at being the leader, and the leader must try to dance in time with the music, and so, obviously, so do the background dancers. The A, B, X, and Y buttons also work.

The third round is very similar to the appeals round in Generation III, and the main difference is that there are three judges and only four appeals, rather than one judge and five appeals. A Pokémon will get more points if it is the only Pokémon to perform for a particular judge, less if another one appeals for that judge and so on. The crowd system is still in place, but this time, each judge has a different meter, making it both potentially risky and potentially rewarding to appeal to a judge that all of the other Pokémon are appealing to. In addition, Pokémon will receive bonus points for appeals regardless of the impression on the judge, and points are not added simply for raising a judge's "voltage."

===New gyms===
As is always the case, there are eight new [[Gym]]s in Sinnoh, each with their own type affiliation. The new [[Gym Leader]]s are [[Roark]] ({{t|Rock}}), [[Gardenia]] ({{t|Grass}}), [[Maylene]] ({{t|Fighting}}), [[Crasher Wake]] ({{t|Water}}), [[Fantina]] ({{t|Ghost}}), [[Byron]] ({{t|Steel}}), [[Candice]] ({{t|Ice}}) and [[Volkner]] ({{t|Electric}}).

===Elite Four===
The new [[Elite Four]] is located at the [[Pokémon League (Sinnoh)|Pokémon League]]. The Elite trainers are [[Aaron (Elite Four)|Aaron]] ({{t|Bug}}), [[Bertha]] ({{t|Ground}}), [[Flint (Elite Four)|Flint]] ({{t|Fire}}) and [[Lucian]] ({{t|Psychic}}); the [[Champion]] is [[Cynthia]], who has Pokémon of mixed types.

===New Pokémon===
:: ''See [[List of Pokémon by Sinnoh Dex number]] and [[List of Pokémon by National Dex number]]''
As the first [[Generation IV]] games, Diamond and Pearl were the first sightings of 107 new Pokémon, bringing the total amount to 493.

The new Pokémon began being unveiled in 2004, with the release of ''[[Destiny Deoxys]]'' in Japan, where {{p|Munchlax}} was revealed.

{{cat|Generation IV Pokémon|Fourth-generation Pokémon}} continued being unveiled in 2005, with the Japanese release of ''[[Lucario and the Mystery of Mew]]''. The movie featured {{p|Lucario}}, {{p|Bonsly}}, {{p|Mime Jr.}} and {{p|Weavile}}.

2006 was crunch time for the fourth generation. The ninth movie, ''[[Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]]'', featured {{p|Manaphy}}, {{p|Mantyke}}, {{p|Buizel}} and {{p|Chatot}}, and {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}} were soon confirmed to be on the two games' [[Version mascots|boxart]]. On September 27, all 107 of the new Pokémon's menu icons were revealed on [[Filb.de]].

During the week that followed the games' Japanese release, [[Serebii.net]] featured a "Discovery Trench" that revealed the names and stats of many of the previously-unknown Pokémon to the general public.

====[[Version-exclusive Pokémon|Version exclusives]]====
The following Pokémon are only obtainable in one game of this pair. In order to obtain Pokémon exclusive to the other game of this pair, they must be traded either from that game or from another compatible game of [[Generation IV]] which has that Pokémon available. Alternatively, all Pokémon released prior to these games may be migrated from a [[Generation III]] game.

{| align="center"
|- align="center" valign="top"
|
{| align="center" style="background: #{{diamond color}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{diamond color light}};"
|-
! Diamond
|- align="center"
|
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{diamond color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align="center"
{{Moveentrytm|086|Seel|1|Water|}}
{{Moveentrytm|087|Dewgong|2|Water|Ice}}
{{Moveentrytm|123|Scyther|2|Bug|Flying}}
{{Moveentrytm|198|Murkrow|2|Dark|Flying}}
{{Moveentrytm|212|Scizor|2|Bug|Steel}}
{{Moveentrytm|246|Larvitar|2|Rock|Ground}}
{{Moveentrytm|247|Pupitar|2|Rock|Ground}}
{{Moveentrytm|248|Tyranitar|2|Rock|Dark}}
{{Moveentrytm|261|Poochyena|1|Dark|}}
{{Moveentrytm|262|Mightyena|1|Dark|}}
{{Moveentrytm|304|Aron|2|Steel|Rock}}
{{Moveentrytm|305|Lairon|2|Steel|Rock}}
{{Moveentrytm|306|Aggron|2|Steel|Rock}}
{{Moveentrytm|352|Kecleon|1|Normal|}}
{{Moveentrytm|408|Cranidos|1|Rock|}}
{{Moveentrytm|409|Rampardos|1|Rock|}}
{{Moveentrytm|430|Honchkrow|2|Dark|Flying}}
{{Moveentrytm|434|Stunky|2|Poison|Dark}}
{{Moveentrytm|435|Skuntank|2|Poison|Dark}}
{{Moveentrytm|483|Dialga|2|Steel|Dragon}}
|}
|}
|
{| align="center" style="background: #{{pearl color}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{pearl color light}};"
|-
! Pearl
|- align="center"
|
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{pearl color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align="center"
{{Moveentrytm|079|Slowpoke|1|Water|Psychic}}
{{Moveentrytm|080|Slowbro|2|Water|Psychic}}
{{Moveentrytm|127|Pinsir|1|Bug|}}
{{Moveentrytm|199|Slowking|2|Water|Psychic}}
{{Moveentrytm|200|Misdreavus|1|Ghost|}}
{{Moveentrytm|228|Houndour|2|Dark|Fire}}
{{Moveentrytm|229|Houndoom|2|Dark|Fire}}
{{Moveentrytm|234|Stantler|1|Normal|}}
{{Moveentrytm|363|Spheal|2|Ice|Water}}
{{Moveentrytm|364|Sealeo|2|Ice|Water}}
{{Moveentrytm|365|Walrein|2|Ice|Water}}
{{Moveentrytm|371|Bagon|1|Dragon|}}
{{Moveentrytm|372|Shelgon|1|Dragon|}}
{{Moveentrytm|373|Salamence|2|Dragon|Flying}}
{{Moveentrytm|410|Shieldon|2|Rock|Steel}}
{{Moveentrytm|411|Bastiodon|2|Rock|Steel}}
{{Moveentrytm|429|Mismagius|1|Ghost|}}
{{Moveentrytm|431|Glameow|1|Normal|}}
{{Moveentrytm|432|Purugly|1|Normal|}}
{{Moveentrytm|484|Palkia|2|Water|Dragon}}
|}
|}
|}

==Compatibility==
Trading exists between Diamond and Pearl versions through the [[Nintendo DS]]'s internal wireless connection. It connects to {{game|Platinum}} in the same manner. [[Pokémon egg|Eggs]] received from {{ga|Pokémon Ranger}} and its sequels are also sent through wireless. Diamond and Pearl also have the ability to connect to the {{wp|internet}} with the [[Global Trade Station|Nintendo Wifi]] system, and also the [[Nintendo Wii]]. For the first time, players may also battle and trade with games in foreign languages. Some [[Pokémon]] can have [[Meister|foreign Pokédex entries]].

Diamond and Pearl also maintain backwards compatibility with the [[Generation III]] games, however standard trading is not allowed. A player's Pokémon may be permanently transferred via [[Pal Park]], and some Pokémon that could previously not be caught can be found using the [[dual-slot mode]].

==Reception==
Pokémon Diamond and Pearl were critically well received, with Nintendo Power calling them "the ultimate Pokémon experience." [http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ds/pokemondiamond?q=pokemon 1]. The inclusion of Wi-fi features, and the voice chat feature were also praised [http://uk.ds.ign.com/articles/782/782443p2.html 2]. However, they where criticized for their somewhat basic graphics, with IGN commenting, "if you're looking for impressive visuals you're not going to get them." [http://uk.ds.ign.com/articles/782/782443p2.html 3]. Despite this, Diamond and Pearl received an average score of 85% on [http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ds/pokemondiamond?q=pokemon Metacritic] the highest of any Pokémon game scored on the site to date.

According to {{wp|Famitsu}}, Pokémon Diamond and Pearl sold 1,586,360 units in the four days after its release. On December 27, 2006, it was announced that the two games combined became the first Nintendo DS games to hit five million units shipped.<ref>http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2006/12/27/103,1167202517,65081,0,0.html</ref> Additionally, in the fortnight ending December 31, 2006, the number of units sold passed four million, according to Famitsu, the first Nintendo DS game to do so.<ref>http://www.famitsu.com/game/rank/top30/2007/01/11/120,1168503732,65421,0,0.html</ref>

Sales of Pokémon Diamond and Pearl in Japan exceeded the five million mark in the 29th week of sales (April 9 - 15, 2007).<ref>Bulbanews: [[n:Diamond, Pearl sales cross 5 million mark in Japan|Diamond, Pearl sales cross 5 million mark in Japan]]</ref> In the United States, over 533,000 pre-orders were taken before release<ref>http://press.nintendo.com/articles.jsp?id=11981</ref>, and one million copies were sold within five days. By the end of April 2007, the US release of Pokémon Diamond had sold approximately 1.045 million copies, and Pokémon Pearl had sold approximately 712 thousand copies.<ref>Bulbanews: [[n:NPD Group sales data for April 2007 revealed|NPD Group sales data for April 2007 revealed]]</ref>

===Japanese sales===
: ''Source: [http://www.enterbrain.co.jp/ Enterbrain] via [http://www.famitsu.com/game/rank/top30/ ファミ通　ゲームソフト販売本数ランキング TOP30]
{| {{bluetable2|r}}
|-
!
! Week ending
! Units sold
! Total units sold
|-
! 1
| October 1, 2006
| 1,575,266
| 1,575,266
|-
! 2
| October 8, 2006
| 466,273
| 2,041,539
|-
! 3
| October 15, 2006
| 275,494
| 2,317,033
|-
! 4
| October 22, 2006
| 231,979
| 2,549,012
|-
! 5
| October 29, 2006
| 203,214
| 2,752,226
|-
! 6
| November 5, 2006
| 183,048
| 2,935,294
|-
! 7
| November 12, 2006
| 124,738
| 3,060,032
|-
! 8
| November 19, 2006
| 101,133
| 3,161,145
|-
! 9
| November 26, 2006
| 110,946
| 3,272,091
|-
! 10
| December 3, 2006
| 100,215
| 3,372,306
|-
! 11
| December 10, 2006
| 151,036
| 3,523,342
|-
! 12
| December 17, 2006
| 225,228
| 3,748,570
|-
! 13
| colspan="3" class="c bg2" | N/A
|-
! 14
| December 31, 2006
| 554,245
| 4,302,815
|-
! 15
| January 7, 2007
| 214,274
| 4,517,089
|-
! 16
| January 14, 2007
| 58,725
| 4,575,814
|-
! 17
| January 21, 2007
| 49,050
| 4,624,864
|-
! 18
| January 28, 2007
| 48,783
| 4,673,647
|-
! 19
| February 4, 2007
| 45,467
| 4,719,114
|-
! 20
| February 11, 2007
| 43,947
| 4,763,061
|-
! 21
| February 18, 2007
| 39,553
| 4,802,614
|-
! 22
| February 25, 2007
| 33,444
| 4,836,058
|-
! 23
| March 4, 2007
| 33,470
| 4,869,528
|-
! 24
| March 11, 2007
| 28,774
| 4,898,302
|-
! 25
| March 18, 2007
| 24,119
| 4,922,421
|-
! 26
| March 25, 2007
| 27,440
| 4,949,861
|-
! 27
| April 1, 2007
| 24,641
| 4,974,502
|-
! 28
| April 8, 2007
| 22,012
| 4,996,514
|-
! 29
| April 15, 2007
| 18,874
| 5,015,388
|-
! 30
| April 22, 2007
| 20,342
| 5,035,730
|-
! 31
| colspan="3" class="c bg2" | N/A
|-
! 32
| May 6, 2007
| 61,040
| 5,096,770
|}

==Trivia==
* Pokémon Diamond and Pearl contain many references to {{wp|Internet meme}}s and {{wp|chatspeak}}. The lead translator, [[Nob Ogasawara]], is a recent member of the {{wp|Something Awful|Something Awful Forums}}, hence all the net lingo. There are also multiple references to the Something Awful website and community scattered throughout the game, such as one Pokémon trainer announcing "[[wp:My Tank is Fight|My Pokémon is Fight!]]". "Noob" is also used several times, "Owned" is said by a [[Team Galactic|Galactic]] grunt and [[Buck]], and ROFL is available as a speech option. Also, in the {{player}}'s first encounter with Team Galactic, they tell [[Professor Rowan]] to "hand over his research so that they would refrain from causing [[wp:Giant Enemy Crab|massive damage]] to his assistant". The receptionist in the [[Team Galactic HQ]] and a [[Fisherman]] on [[Route 212]] use the phrase "For the Win". Perhaps coincidentally, [[Twinleaf Town]] shares its Japanese name with that of the original *chan imageboard, [[wp:Futaba Channel|2chan]].
* Diamond and Pearl (and also {{v2|Platinum}}) are also the first main series Pokémon games not to have their storage media colored, and the first games in which the lab of the region's [[Pokémon Professor]] is not in the player's hometown.
* The Sinnoh region's starters are the first [[starter Pokémon]] which all gain a second type through evolution. Previously, two of Hoenn's starters had two types in their final forms, as did two of Kanto's, though one of Kanto's three had two types to begin with.
* Diamond and Pearl are the first games where it is safe to trade between English and Japanese versions. An example is this is shown by the fact that Japanese Pokémon from the GTS do not harm foreign language versions, and in fact, several actually add their own foreign Pokédex entry when traded.
* The leaders and [[Elite_Four#Sinnoh_Elite_Four|Elite Four]] of Sinnoh don't always use Pokémon of their specialized type, mainly focusing on the use of moves that are of that type. However, this may have been due to a lack of varied types in the Sinnoh Pokédex. This problem was fixed in {{v2|Platinum}} with an extension added to the Pokédex.
* Diamond and Pearl are the second Pokémon games that require their saved data to be deleted before saving a new game, with the first being [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 1|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]].
* [[List of locations by index number (DS)|In-game data]] indicate that the games will be able to interact with games based in the [[Johto]] region, fueling speculation of [[Pokémon Gold and Silver remake speculation|remakes of the Generation II games]]. Johto was referenced several times in the game, such as:
**Jasmine, Olivine City's Gym Leader, appears in Sunyshore to train.
**Someone references both Burnt Tower and the caves between Olivine and Cianwood Cities, the location of Ho-oh and Lugia in Johto.
* Korean characters do not appear in non-Korean games and vice-versa; they appear as empty spaces.
* Diamond and Pearl are also the first two games in which [[baby Pokémon]] previously available only through {{pkmn|breeding}} can be found in the wild, if one would not count catching {{p|Wynaut}} on [[Mirage Island]].
**Also, certain Pokémon that normally [[Evolution|evolve]] via [[Trade|trading]] may be caught in the wild as well.
* Diamond and Pearl are the first set of games where all 3 of the starter Pokemon are utilized in the storyline of the game.
*The trash cans in this game resemble {{wp|Warp Pipes}} from {{wp|Super Mario Bros.}}

==See also==
* Bulbanews: [[n:First Diamond, Pearl information revealed|First Diamond, Pearl information revealed]]

==External links==
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Talk:Mount Coronet

2009-03-14T17:00:08Z

Uxie legend: /* Trivia addition? */

Since [[Spear Pillar]] and the [[Hall of Origin]] are part of Mt. Coronet, shouldn't they just be described on this page? - [[User:Pacaman|Pacaman]] 07:40, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
:That's like saying that [[Mt. Pyre]] is part of {{rt|122}}, though, in my eyes. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 07:50, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
::No, it's more like saying the interior floors, the exterior area, and the summit of Mt. Pyre are part of Mt. Pyre. They are all part of the same mountain, so they are listed in the same article. Since Spear Pillar is the top Mt. Coronet and the only way to get to it is through Mt. Coronet, I think Spear Pillar should definately be included in this article. I guess I'm not as strong on including Hall of Origin, but I still think including the hall makes sense. -- [[User:Pacaman|Pacaman]] 18:33, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
:::By the same logic, shouldn't we just put everything in Sinnoh in its article? If there is enough to Spear Pillar to warrant a seperate page then it only needs a linked mention here. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 19:15, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
::::Yeah. I honestly should have used [[Viridian Forest]] and {{rt|2}} as my examples instead. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 00:35, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::No, it doesn't have enough unique information to warrant it's own page. It's basically just another floor of Mt. Coronet. The summit of Mt. Pyre doesn't have a seperate article. Shoal Cave's "ice room" doesn't have its own article. Mt. Moon's basement doesn't have its own article. The room where Red is in Mt. Silver doesn't have a seperate article. Spear Pillar shouldn't either. - [[User:Pacaman|Pacaman]] 17:24, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
But the summit of Mt. Pyre is still known as Mt. Pyre. Shoal Cave's ice room is still known as Shoal Cave. Mt. Moon's basement is still known as Mt. Moon. Red's area is still known as Mt. Silver. Pokémon caught/hatched there have that as their caught area. However, if you hatch or catch a Pokémon at Mt. Coronet, it says it was caught there, while at Spear Pillar it says it was caught at Spear Pillar, and at the Hall of Origin it says it was caught at the Hall of Origin. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 23:44, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
:Well, when I see it that way, I guess you're right. - [[User:Pacaman|Pacaman]] 17:44, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

==Updating==

Are there some Pokemon available for capture in Mt. Coronet that aren't mentioned on the page? I was looking at Dratini's page, and it said it could be captured in Mt. Coronet, but where is not specified (and unfortunately, I don't know or I would add the information myself). [[User:Matkin22|Matkin22]] 17:34, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

==The Elusive Feebas==

Are the four random tiles in which Feebas appears on the shoreline only? Or are they scattered throughout the water? [[User:The Jigglypuff Ninja|The Jigglypuff Ninja]] 23:29, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:Like after giving you the ability to fish while surfing they'd be nice and do that. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:33, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

== Layout ==

Should the Items section be redesigned? Currently, every item located in Mt. Coronet seems to come under the Dialga / Palkia quest heading, despite the fact that some items don't require all the above HMs, and do require Rock Climb.
I've also found an Escape Rope in plain view, and a hidden Max Potion, Super Repel and Max Revive that I'm reluctant to place into the list before I know it's helpful and reliable to the reader.

[[User:H4r8z0r|H4r8z0r]] 18:35, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:Well, most of the items are available conveniently during the DP quest, while otherwise it takes a lot of backtracking. I dunno how exactly they're organized on this page, and since I'm not about to restart my game... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:44, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

== Trivia addition? ==

Using the walk any where cheat it is possible to get to a plot of grass and on the east side wall there is a hole in the wall that looks like an entrance into the mountain but you can't go in. This is probably just a prototype entrance but I find it interesting. Is is good enough for the trivia section? [[User:Rucario64|Rucario]][[User Talk:Rucario64|64]] 13:35, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Do you mean that place where there is only one tuft of grass and then an entrance to the east?You can access that place by using rock climb,and the entrance leads right out of Mt Coronet,to the Celestic Town entrance.I think it's only one way.[[User:Uxie legend|Uxie Legend]] 17:00, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Judgment (move)

2009-03-05T18:26:25Z

Uxie legend: /* In other languages */

{{MoveInfobox|
n=449 |
name=Judgment |
jname=さばきのつぶて |
jtrans=Judgment Strike| 
desc=The user releases countless shots of light. Its type varies with the kind of Plate the user is holding. |
gameimage=DPJudgment.PNG |
type={{arceustype}} |
damagecategory=Special |
basepp=10 |
maxpp=16 |
power=100 |
accuracy=100 |
gen=IV |
bdesc= |
category=Smart |
appeal=2 |
jam= 0|
cdesc=Order of appealing is random in the next turn |
appealsc=2 |
scdesc=Makes the order of contestants random in the next turn. |
touches=no |
protect=yes |
magiccoat=no |
snatch=no |
brightpowder=yes |
kingsrock=yes |
flag7=no |
flag8=no |
sound=no |
footnotes=
}}
'''Judgment''' (Japanese: '''さばきのつぶて''' ''Judgment Strike'') is a damage-dealing {{type2|Normal}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation IV]]. It is the [[signature move]] of {{p|Arceus}}, and like Arceus, varies in type depending on the plate held by the user.

==Effect==
Judgment inflicts damage and has no secondary effect. The [[Elemental types|type]] of Judgment depends on the type of [[plate]] held by the user, being Normal-type if there is no held plate.

==Learnset==
===[[Generation IV]]===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{Learnlist|arceus}}
{{Moveentry|493|Arceus|1|{{arceustype}}||100|'''}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

==Trivia==
* Judgment has the same base power, {{stat|Accuracy}}, and [[PP]] as {{m|Earthquake}}.

==In other languages==
* Dutch: '''Oordeel'''
* Italian: '''Giudizio'''
* Spanish: '''Sentencia'''
* Portuguese: '''Julgamento'''
* German:'''Urteilskraft'''
{{Project MoveDex notice}}

[[de:Urteilskraft]]
[[ja:さばきのつぶて]]
[[pt:Judgment]]

Talk:Main Page/Archive 7

2009-03-03T16:21:05Z

Uxie legend: /* Error in Main Page "Did you know..." */

This is the [[Bulbapedia:Talk page|talk page]] for the Bulbapedia's front page. If you have a general comment about the wiki, please consider placing it in [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 our forum].'''

== Previous discussions ==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]

== So featured articles... ==

Well, our current one's been up for more than a week, so I'm wondering...

#Ought we get a new one (aka, oh... Ash?) out there?
#Should we have some sort of regular schedule to the featuring?
#Will you guys ''ever'' nominate and vote on them quickly enough to feature them weekly? Monthly? Bi-monthly? How often?
#And if not... well, when should we go back to the normal MftE? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:51, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

:I think if it's simple enough to nominate articles, then we could see more use from this. I had to dig a bit through the links to find the other nominations... would a simple "Nominate an article" link next to the "read more" and "more featured articles" links be a good idea, perhaps? We could have an article with not only a list of nominations, but some simple instructions for how to nominate. Make it more accessible. We've got plenty of articles to nominate, not enough people looking for them.
:At this rate, a once-a-month nomination might work out nicely. With more activity, I'd say nominating faster then that would be nice. I personally think having featured articles is a fun thing, MftE makes for a good news feed, but that's about it. Featured articles give the front page more... appeal. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 08:35, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

::I completely agree. Monthly featuring would work great, and it makes the main page look much better. And if on one of the months we don't have a new one, we can use [[Poké Ball]] or [[Legendary Pokémon]], since they never made it to the main page, right? And there are already many good nominees. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 08:57, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
:::So we choose the next on the 21st? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:44, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
::::We can choose the next one whenever, I'd say. Then start up a cycle starting there. It's not a big deal if Brock gets featured for a little longer or shorter then the other featured articles we'll inevitably have. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 06:08, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::Or, either just wait until one comes again, and base a cycle on that time, or leave it up for a month, then take it down, and post a new one whenever a new one comes. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 18:50, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::So, ummm... It's been a month. New article, anyone?...? --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''zz''']] 19:38, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Hopefully the admins will get around to it when the buzz about Platinum dies down. Granted, in a perfect world there would be at least a couple assigned to all of the normal admin tasks, but ah well. --[[User:TwinsMetsFan|'''TMF''']] [[User talk:TwinsMetsFan|Let's Go Mets]] - [[Special:Contributions/TwinsMetsFan|Stats]] 22:44, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

==Move updating==
We shouldn't count Struggle, Super Glitch, Secret Power (it doesn't need the template) and Vacuum-Cut as moves, so should we subtract 4 from that? However, we SHOULD count Wide Slash as a move, because in MD it's a TM. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] 16:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
:There are 467 moves minus Super Glitch, Vacuum-Cut, and Wide Slash. I went by the in-game DP number. Secret Power and Struggle... well, yeah. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:00, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

==The ads...==

I don't like the way they work. The ads-well, just look at them! They make this site seem less trustable, and especially since it's like "REGISTER OR BE FORCED TO LOOK AT WEIRD ADS!!!!" I like that I don't have to look at them, now I'm a member, but I don't think that this site should be sponsored by cleavage revelations. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]) 23:14, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, I was looking at my own talk without being logged on, and I had to keep above the ad at the bottom so my mom wouldn't see it. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 01:37, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
::You can report those sorts of ads on the forums... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:52, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Even if you can report ads, the presence of them makes the site seem less trustworthy. Especially to a non-user or someone who know little about the site. -[[User:MiekL94|MiekL94]] 22:19, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

== Featuring ==

Why has the featured article been about Brock all the time? - [[User:FireHazard|Hazardous FIRE!]] 05:51, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:Because it never changed; this is the first one. We're not going to be changing them every day like Wikipedia is...I think the consensus is change it every month?--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:53, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
::The discussion's a few sections up on this page, and yep, seems to be about once-a-month. We don't really have a need to feature an article every day, besides, we'd run out of articles too quick if we did that. And featuring for a longer time gives the articles more "airtime". --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 16:02, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

== RRRRGH!!! ==

Those new sprite tables are all wrong! Every time you click "show", the evolution chart sticks itself smack in the middle of it! NOT GOOD! I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 01:38, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
:Works perfectly fine for me. Mind giving a link to a page it doesn't work on, and listing what browser you use? Different browsers handle some codes differently, and it would be in our best interest to make sure Bulbapedia works on most of them. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 06:15, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
::Me as well. I know you've got an affinity for glitches, but IE... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:56, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Me too, I've noticed some pages work while some don't--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 07:18, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
::::It works fine for me, but somebody else is having a problem. {{u|23-03-33}} made a post [[Talk:Bulbasaur (Pokémon)#Problem|here]], along with a screencap what exactly it's doing. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:26, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

== Grammar... ==

Umm...it's in the "Did You Know" is supposed to be its...I'm not sure how to edit that section, but in the future, can people check the grammar just in case? [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 12:44, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

== Serebii ==

Serebii.net has like bucket-fulls of new info about the rotom formes and other stuff, shouldnt this be added to the main page? --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 20:09, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

== Platinum is out? ==

I thought that it was coming out on the 13th. But a bunch of videos are appearing on Youtube right now. Just look at them all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4kPiOdfY7Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGVCgkQt6W0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL0Oz7HBE70

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
--'''''Posted by''''' [[User:Deadlymethane|'''''Deadly''''']][[User talk:Deadlymethane|'''''methane''''']] '''at''' 00:41, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, Apparently people are saying that internet celebs get it first to review it, but I really dont know what to believe any more, but in any case, some people out there have it now as I type this. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 00:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
:It's just a leaked ROM. This happened back when DP came out in English too, remember?--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:53, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
::How is that possible? You can clearly see that the videos are from DSs. [[user:Baby G|Baby G]] ([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]]) 02:35, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:::I just got ricl rolled by the last video XD--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Talk]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Contributions))]]
:It is either a leaked ROM, or one of the copys that some shops sold early. -Rabla 22:26, 13 September 2008

== Pokemon Platinum Sprites ==

I found where all (almost) of the Pokemon Platinum sprites are.
They are here: http://sfc.pokemon-inside.net/platinum.php [[User:Evil Sonic|[b]Evil Sonic....[/b]]] 02:29, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:Some of them look fake to me. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::Yea like Chancey and Blissey--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 02:48, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:::No, those are them all right. Zhen sent me them and they are exactly those (minus the glitchy ones, which someone screwed up). '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:06, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Roselia's face looks weird. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:09, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::If I have nightmares tonight, I know who to blame. What did they do to Raichu! they ruined my favorite Pokemon! NOOOOOOOO! --'''[[User:Mooites|Mooites]]''' [[User talk:Mooites|Talk to me, baby!]] 23:19, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::Bring back {{v2|Crystal}}.
::::::As long as we're talking about sprites, I'm still not sure about the files we should be uploading. Are we going to animate everything, nothing, Platinum only, or what? --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:48, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

== My Pokemon Ranch and Platinum ==

It's been revealed on the Pokemon Ranch Japanese site that a Pokemon Platinum compatibility update will be available by the end of the year. Those that have the game already will be able to download the update for free when it's available.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 03:20, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:Thank goodness. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::Yup know i don't have to buy Wii Points.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 03:41, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

== IMPORTANT s' v s's posessive update ==

Go here [http://www.celebrity-babies.com/2008/09/marcia-cross--3.html]--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 14:55, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

:That's a celebrity blog. Blogs are prone to grammar errors, just as much as a wiki is. This blog can't be used as evidence in this debate. If you thought a celebrity blog could get us off our stance of keeping them at "James's", you're dead wrong.

:The articles stay at the names they currently have. If we've rejected certain schoolbooks, there's no way we'd fall prey to a blog. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:13, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

::I thought this issue was already discussed. Besides, if we did change, do you realize how much of a massive undertaking that would be? We not only would have to alter all articles belonging to James, we'd have to fix up some templates (like {{template|op}}) and go through every article trying to determine if it's correct. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 15:22, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

:::Excellent point. And in my opinion it's such a minute detail to have such a debate over it. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 21:43, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

::::Look, we know that s' is considered the proper. The problem is that it would mess up all the templates we have. Such as <nowiki>{{TP|James|Mime Jr.}}</nowiki>. The template won't work correctly if it's James' Mime Jr. instead. So will you stop bringing this up already? It's impossible to have it this way. We are not doing it to piss users off. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:49, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Actually, no, the s' would be wrong. You put the apostrophe after the s only if it's a plural noun. If James was the plural form of Jame, then it would be appropriate, but since he's one guy, it's James's. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 22:05, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::Everyone has disagreements on pluralizing singulars ending with "S". The only agreement seems to be Jesus and Moses use "s' " for whatever reason.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:08, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Cross was s'--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:19, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:The s' is not the proper way, no more than not beginning a sentence with and. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:21, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::Kuki, some random blog using "s' " doesn't make it correct. Go bring us a document on the proper use of English to support your argument.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:28, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Technically sayin James' and James's means the same thing [[User:Dion24|Dion24]] 23:38, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:...that's not the point.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 23:45, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

== Problem with Platinum-move-standardizing ==

Big problem: Say someone standardizes half of the learnsets in a move and forgets about it. It is put under Platinum standard and no one will know the other half is done. What do we do, manually check every move article? [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 21:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:It's up to the person editing to remember to complete it later. If they don't, we'll find it eventually, just like we do all mistakes in the articles, and can take care of it then. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 21:49, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::A surefire way to find articles with half-converted learnsets is to [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Learnset section box style|use this special page]]. The long-since deleted template that the page is checking for is embedded in old code from the old format, so any article that shows up on that special page has unconverted learnset sections. (I've already gone through and removed the aforementioned old code from all of the pages that have been fully converted.) --[[User:TwinsMetsFan|'''TMF''']] [[User talk:TwinsMetsFan|Let's Go Mets]] - [[Special:Contributions/TwinsMetsFan|Stats]] 22:28, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

== Featured Article ==

I'm surprised this Wiki doesn't have a featured article. Shouldn't there be one? --[[User:Xknight 511|☆X-Knight☆]][[User talk:Xknight 511|511♂]] 05:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
:There was a few days ago. Now there isn't. There will be again, as soon as the admins get around to it. Once the rush of edits with the Platinum release wears down, I'd guess. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 06:26, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I see. Thank you for teh info. --[[User:Xknight 511|☆X-Knight☆]][[User talk:Xknight 511|511♂]] 06:31, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

==Can't create new page...==

I want to create a page for Rui Quintas and Peter Michael, our (Portugal) two James, but the way I use to create pages don't work... I have two ways: one is searching for the page, and then click on the button that says to begin that certain page. Another way I use is when the name of the page I want to create is red in another page, so I click on it and then I create the page...
However, this time, I can't create the page. Even if I put [[]] around their names, it redirects to the list of international voice actors. See for yourselves - [[Rui Quintas]]. And the same thing if I search.
Is there any other way to create pages? Or can you please resolve this little unwanted redirect, please?[[User:Portuguese Old Man|Portuguese Old Man]] 18:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
:Just go to the top of the voice actors' page and you will see the blue link. Click on it and edit it. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 19:00, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
::It was already decided that these people are not notable enough for their own pages. That is why they are redirects. Not even all f the English voice actors are notable enough, so why shouldn't the international voice actors be the same? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:06, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Ok, thanks^^[[User:Portuguese Old Man|Portuguese Old Man]] 19:14, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

== Userspace? ==

I did some searching, but I can't find anything on it. That said:

Is there a policy outlining what can and can't be done with the userspace? Seems that I can't redirect it to my talk page, how about using it as a reminder list for myself or just blanking the damn thing? -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|BCJ]] 04:44, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:Blanking it ought to be OK (it's your page, after all). You can also slap a {{template|delete}} tag on there and let an admin get rid of it altogether. I'd recommend {{bp|signature policy|customizing your signature}} in such a case so it links to your user talk page. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 04:46, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::Works for me, thanks. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|BCJ]] 05:03, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:::just want to throw in that i DON'T suggest deleting user pages, as it gives users the dreaded "red label" (user pages not written) and i have a tendency to scan those person's edits. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 05:08, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::::What? Really? Why? I mean, plenty of people around here just don't have userpages. [[User:Urutapu|One of our sysops]], for example. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 07:34, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Personally, I don't think it's a problem to redirect to your own user talk page from your user page; it was just one time (that I know of) that the situation popped up, and the only reason anyone could think ''not'' to do it was because "nobody else does that". It's fairly normal on most other wikis, if someone doesn't actually have - or want - a userpage, but doesn't like a red link. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 15:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::That's what I was thinking, but someone reverted my redirect saying that 'it should be like that'. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|BCJ]]''([[User talk:Bug Catcher Jam|talk]])'' 21:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::::It's something that has never been cleared up; there's no current rule about it yet, so it may or may not be reverted depending on who sees it. I think perhaps it's time we made a simple userpage policy; we could fit just common-sense things on it (don't edit it too much, don't insult people, etc), and at least have something to point to when we do need to edit people's userpages. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 19:36, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::::And if you don't want the "dreaded red link," as you put it, just change your sig to be a different color (if you don't know and can't find color codes, see [[User talk:Theininen|my talk]] for a couple of links and sigs for the setup), or simply put a generic greeting or contact info (i.e. e-mail, AIM, etc.) and it will be normal blue. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 02:06, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

==Categories==

On the bottom of episode pages there are categories for episodes, how do we create one? I looked and couldn't find out how.

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 21:56, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:<nowiki>[[Category:(whatever)]]</nowiki> at the bottom with the others. Then just make the category. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

== # of moves remaining ==

It's actually 36 + one userpage, to be exact. This is inaccurate because moves outside the DPPt 467 have been updated as well, such as Shadow moves or glitch moves. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 00:44, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:They've been counted. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:30, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, it says 467, which only includes the DPPt ones on [[List of moves]]. Even then, [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Learnset section box style|this page]] would like to have a word with you. Various unstarted and unfinished ones on here. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 20:11, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Woo, we're almost there. 2 almost-finished moves and 2 unstarted moves. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] ''I am not removing this lengthy addition to my signature until all moves have been updated to Platinum standard.'' 15:14, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

:how come it says minus 3 now?
:[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamatecharizard]] 16:23, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

::Because if you put one of the templates used to update it automatically categorizes it, which affects the countdown. In truth, there's really only [[Mud-Slap (move)|one move left]]. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] ''I am not removing this lengthy addition to my signature until all moves have been updated to Platinum standard.'' 16:59, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

:::Platinum ''complete''! [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 18:16, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

::::Sweet. The "Message from the Editor" section of the Main Page should be updated to reflect this. --[[User:TwinsMetsFan|'''TMF''']] [[User talk:TwinsMetsFan|Let's Go Mets]] - [[Special:Contributions/TwinsMetsFan|Stats]] 07:11, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

== Other pictures/Adds? ==

Subject A.) Okay, I was thinking, should we get pictures of 3D appearances and Ranch (normal and Shiny)?

Subject B.) Alright, when I'm on my Wii, I find adds, and some of them are '''absolutely offensive.''' I get some saying "how dumb are you? take our test to find out!" We absolutely need to remove these. All adds.[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 19:40, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
:Nuh uh. It's the other way around: Unless you have some other way to pay for the server costs, the ads have to stay. You can report offensive ads on the forums but I don't think dumbness tests qualify for that. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:43, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
But still... some are a bit offensive.[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 23:37, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

:And like Fabu-Vinny mentioned, you can report those on the forums; there's a thread for just that purpose. Particularly offensive ads can be blacklisted, so they won't show up again. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 00:50, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
::you could also just sign in, and they all go away. can you sign in on a Wii? -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:18, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I've signed into things like Youtube on my Wii, so I think you can sign onto bulbapedia on it. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 13:32, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
I probably could, but on Mariowiki, which has the same set-up, makes it extremespeedly slow.[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 00:12, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Subject A: Probably not. We do not have 3D pictures for Colosseum and XD (even though they're already on the German PokéWiki, nor do we have 3D pictures for Battle Revolution. It would be a good thing to add 3D sprites for all 4 games if PokéWiki were competition to add sprites like such, but we're only competing against it with the select few German-speaking ''and'' English-speaking Pokémon fans. [[User:Gligar|'''Gli''']][[User talk:Gligar|'''gar''']] 18:21, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

On the subject of sprites, we're still missing (in Generation IV) few shiny Diamonds, a few Platinums, and most of the shiny Platinums. Generation III ''really'' needs sprites, as ones such as Lunatone have only Emerald. Generation II is pretty much done, save for some Crystal, and Gen I is finished. Oh, and a non-animated Manaphy Egg Minisprite is all I can think of. [[User:Gligar|'''Gli''']][[User talk:Gligar|'''gar''']] 18:21, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

If images weren't disabled, the project of adding these images in an easy-to-follow 80x80 format would be much easier. [[User:Gligar|'''Gli''']][[User talk:Gligar|'''gar''']] 18:21, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Due to the failure of a computer I'm right now I can't link to it, but the PokémonElite2000 Sprite Resourse has every sprite (I don't actually know about Platinums) including Shinies and Male/Female forms. Since it's a 'resource,' we are perfectly alowed to use them... [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 02:13, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

==User Profile Things==

On user profile pages a lot of people have those icons that say like "this user plays this game" "this user's favorite pokemon is" and all sorts of things. Where do we get these!?

--[[User:KantoLegend|KantoLegend]] 04:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
:{{cat|User tags|here}}. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''zz''']] 07:12, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

==TR==

I've seen many episode guides with "TR" instead of "Team Rocket".
Don't you think it would be better if we had "Team Rocket" instead of "TR" in the episode guides? [[User:Portuguese Old Man|Portuguese Old Man]] 13:09, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:Of course. Change it if it's there. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:16, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

==Name changes==

Is there a way to change your user name?

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 21:49, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:Ask TTE later--[[User:RexRacer|'''RexRacer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 21:50, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== Message from the Editor ==

Under this, "Read more" and "Past messages" both link to the exact same thing. Just sayin'. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 02:55, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

== Easy-To-Use and Correct 'é' ==

I'll venture a guess that plenty of people already know this, but the character code - this works on any text document - for 'é' is 130. So, hold Alt (if you have an Alt) and type a 1, a 3, and 0 then release Alt. Ta-dah! [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 02:17, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
:And if you're currently editing Bulbapedia, it's even easier. Just click on the é in the character palette. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:31, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::In my case, it's also Alt + 0233, which is still just as easy. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 21:40, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:::In my case, I just hit Alt Gr + e. UK Keyboard layout. I can also scream POKÉMON! as a result, by holding shift. Alt Gr is just Alt+Ctrl on one key.. so Alt+Ctrl+e = é as well. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 21:44, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

:::And 2178 works as well...[[User:Kpokefan|'''K''']][[User talk:Kpokefan|'''P''']][[User:Kpokefan/Missions|'''F''']] 21:44, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

== Is there? ==

Is there a tag for Democrats? as in <nowiki>{{User Democrat}}</nowiki>--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Nag at Me!]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Edits))]]

I don't believe so, I think it is just a Liberal tag. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 00:57, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

:Remember, guys. This page is for discussing Bulbapedia's MAIN PAGE only. Not general discussion about the wiki. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:00, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I know, I'm just responding, it's not like anyone else wouldn't afterall. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 01:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

== Featured Articles ==

Umm...I just looked at the page, and we had 2 accepted a couple of days ago, why aren't they on the main page? [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 16:03, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

== Did you know... ==

...that the "Did you know" section of the Main Page hasn't been changed in over a month? [[User:SharKing|'''Shar''''''K''']][[User Talk:SharKing|'''ing''']] 23:31, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== 255 ==

I'm far too lazy to do so myslef, but does anyone want to make an article about the various ways '255' was the highest number (value, really) that the old games could deal with? [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 00:21, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

== This one goes out to all you Senior & Veteran members out there ==

Perhaps we should focus more on User Relations. In the last 30 contributions, we swooped in on a BRAND NEW USER, warned him five times on a policy he is not familar on, deleted his pages before allowing him time to save them elsewhere, and while im currently typing this, im sure someone is attacking him right now. Perhaps we should be more welcoming to the new users and contributors, whom Im sure have good things to add to the site just as much as the rest of us--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Nag at Me!]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Edits))]]
:maybe that new user should read the welcome message and MoS before they make such a number of poor edits and abuse the userspace. this way, we wont need to yell at them. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:44, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
::And understand it all? Right--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Nag at Me!]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Edits))]]
:::I don't know if you want my 2 cents, but I agree with DCM. Often, new contributors need time to get used to the laws of the 'Pedia. I should know-- a few months ago, I made a number of errors. [[User:SharKing|'''Shar'''K'''ing''']] [[User Talk:SharKing|Talk]] 01:55, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
::::and thats fine. users make mistakes, and we certainly dont expect new users to be top contributors right away, but it is stressed that new users should read the [[Manual of Style]] before making any edits. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:04, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::I completely agree with DCM. Perhaps some of you guys ought to get off your high horses, jump wikis and read {{wp|WP:BITE|a fundamental Wikipedia policy}}. I guarantee it'll make this 'pedia a much nicer place to work. -- [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] 09:03, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::Rule 33: Lurk moar. Always the rule. Internet users just need to start getting it like the rest of us. However, jumping on a noob isn't the best thing...
::::::Either way, the reason why we made the welcome was so that we didn't have to jump on people whose first stop wasn't the MOS. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:17, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::How many n00bs are going to stop and read a wall of text? For that is essentially what it is. Wouldn't it be better to make more concise welcome message, with links to pages that extend on the policies? [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 09:20, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

::::::::Perhaps something like [http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Beginner%27s_Guide this?] --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 09:26, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Yes. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 09:37, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Bulbapedia is not for n00bs. That's MY opinion on this. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 09:31, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Perhaps you've forgotten exactly what this is a wiki on? You're going to get many n00bs. And most of them, if not driven away, do become good members. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 09:37, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Uncyclopedia isn't funny. However yes we need to rework the welcoming wall of text. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:35, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::I think so far, my record is that every wiki I've started off on the wrong foot with = I'm an admin there. Unfortunately, I knew what I was doing by the time I got to Wikipedia, so no adminship there. Boo.
::::::::::But yes, just because someone makes a few (or a lot of) mistakes early on, doesn't mean they couldn't become good editors.
::::::::::@TTE: no u. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 10:43, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
(←outdent) I still find it kind of scary that despite all of your "use the link templates" and "do it our way" 'policies' you guys have, there is nothing about being nice to other users. I have even seen a (new?) user's talk page containing a warning about warning a "veteran" about (I think) too many mainspace edits. The response from the third-party user (ie not the "n00b" or "veteran") was "he's been around for a while and stacked up a ****-load of edits, let him do what he wants". Seriously, are there two sets of rule books here? Coz I'd like a copy of the second one! But I highly doubt I'll get that. Anyway, you "seniors and veterans" need to start to consider the fact that Bulbapedia is not just a place with infinite amounts of Pokemon (I mean, Pokémon) info; it's a community where people hang out. We would like to be respected, and offering this respect to new users and old users alike will definitely result in situations like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:TTEchidna/Archive_Nov_08_1#OBAMA this] being avoided, as well as the example I gave above, and much more that I'm sure we've all seen. Reading {{wp|WP:CIVIL}}, {{wp|WP:BITE}} and {{wp|WP:COOL}} would be obvious places to start. For templating, perhaps consider examining {{wp|Template:welcomeg}} for ideas on layout. -- [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] 05:43, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
:Just a note on the first example, Guardian is beyond the "newbie" status for a while now, that discussion got heated for it's points, not because any one user was older then another.
:But yes, some policy on "being nice", be it written or unwritten, could be a good idea at this point. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 06:06, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
::I'm pretty sure the community is more over on BMGf than here. ;-)
::Plus, this isn't Wikipedia. We're not going to go out and become exactly like Wikipedia, except with information on Pokémon instead.
::And thirdly, people should really use their common sense, if they indeed have it.
::@JD, I doubt that an unwritten rule would do all that much, as people can't exactly read something not written. A policy on "being nice" being written down would get there. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 09:18, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
:::[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4#Bulbaquette?|Where does this sound familiar from?]]
:::I like to think that I've done some good work on this wiki--work that I wouldn't have done if everyone jumped on my throat the first few mistakes I made. By the way, when I went to the TFwiki and brought up an idea, they all hated it--but they didn't hate me for it. Partly, it was because I was accepting of their verdict, but partly because they seem to know better than to bite the newbies. We were all "n00bs" once, and we kind of have to accept new ideas if we expect ourselves to continue to grow and evolve. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 09:20, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Being nice and assuming good faith should generally come with experience, but yes, having it in writing would probably be a necessity. I'm a big supporter of [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_a_dick a certain MetaWiki policy], which is used on multiple wikis simply for it's short, to-the-point message. And it's got a cool name. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 09:25, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::GlinnMcGraw - I'm not trying to turn this into Wikipedia, just pointing out some ideas to look at for developing our own policies. And BMGf and BP have different communities - I don't do the forums, and I'm sure there are forum people that don't do BP. Also, most of the users of this website are children (based on the nature of our content). A lot of the time, this age group lacks common sense, therefore we need something concrete. Finally, Jioruji_Derako - I love DBAD! -- [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] 10:05, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::Nor did I say you were, I was simply saying that they are not one.
::::::On common sense, ''I did say if they had it.'' ;-)
::::::New question though, what should the "be nice" policy be based on? DBAD? Start from scratch? [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 10:36, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I don't think the DBAD policy would be the best idea ''here'', simply for the wording. But there are a lot of other options to either borrow from, or start from scratch. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AGF Assume Good Faith] is one policy that spans many wikis, and would work here as well. That's just an example, we could just write up something of our own too (it probably would be about the same, though). --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 13:45, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Well, yes, not DBAD to a word, that much is obvious, just something to base the policy on, such as AGF, would be good. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 13:55, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::I made a draft policy. [[User:The dark lord trombonator/Bulbapedia:Assume Good Faith|BP:AGF]]. Read and review (here or on the sub's talk page). -- [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] 05:23, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

==e-mail problem==

my sister wants an account but she can't do it 'cus we have the same e-mail and as mentioned above in ''The ads'' I hate it when I'm on BulbaNews and the archives 'cus there are '''SO MANY DAM ADS WHY CAN'T WE GET RID OF THEM!''' but I'm getting off topic, the point is, ''is there any way for us to have the same e-mail address?''----[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamatecharizard]] 18:33, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
:OK, OK, calm down... They won't let you use the same e-mail because they think it's "sockpuppeting." That means that someone with malicious intentions uses the same computer and e-mail to have multiple accounts to vandalize the site. Either go make a new e-mail for your sister or go ask an admin to make an exception. [[User:Dialgarules|Dialgarules]] 18:38, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
::She could just make a G-mail, hotmail, etc. otherwise, no.--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:Regarding the ads, just go to your [[Special:Preferences|preferences]], then click the blue "Manage your global account" link. Now, when you login on Bulbapedia, and go to check BulbaNews or the Archives, you will also be logged in there. When you're logged in, no ads will appear - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] '''|''' 18:42, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
::But without an account in the first place, that does no good. I'm pretty sure your sister will have to create her own e-mail in order to get an account. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 18:47, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, for the sister it doesn't but for {{u|Ultamatecharizard}} it will create the BulbaNews & Archives accounts (if not already done), & merge them. For the sister, yes, a new e-mail is required but one can easily be made at gmail, hotmail, etc. like DCM said. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] '''|''' 18:53, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
::::thanks about that espeically about the ads I'll get on it soon----[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamatecharizard]] 22:11, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

== Wow. ==

I see the main page got a makeover. Nice. And the Did you know" section was finally changed! --[[User:SharKing|'''Shar'''K'''ing''']] (([[User Talk:SharKing|Talk to the King!]])) 14:09, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:Happy Ninth, Gold and Silver! --[[User:Jonouchi|Jonouchi]] 14:37, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
::WOOT I can't believe its been NINE years!! [[User:Rucario64|Rucario]][[User Talk:Rucario64|64]] 20:04, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:::And the whole Typhlosion (Echidna) for message from the editor is awesome.--[[User:MisterE13|MisterE13]] 21:29, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Haha, I didn't see the connection there. Should Meganium have a little dancing sprite too (as third starter)? Or is there a secret reason that this non-player of Gold and Silver doesn't realise? — [[User:The dark lord trombonator|THE]] [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|TROM]] — 21:47, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::Its Gorgous.--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::::::I think that a remake will happen before this time next year. Their probably waiting 4 the 10 anneversory of GS --[[User:ShinyPikachu|Pretty Pretty Shiny Shiny]] '''[[User Talk:ShinyPikachu|Dont bug me]]'''

:::::::It's spelled "gorgeous." ShinyPikachu, put a <nowiki></nowiki> after your sig is done. And it's been nine years since GS? Wow... Nine years and nothing has been heard from the ol' Johto region... --[[User:Dialgarules|'''Dialga''']][[User talk:Dialgarules|'''RULES''']] 23:12, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::No, I was referring to the greek philospher, Gorgias. moving on. The sprites are nifty, and i like the color scheme--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:::::::::Meganium wasn't there really because there was no place for it. But I suppose I can put it there... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:33, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::great job TTE----[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 23:52, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::I like it a lot. Wasn't it just recently the 6th Anniversary of Ruby & Sapphire? [[User:Yinyang1195|Yin]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|Yang]] 05:42, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::It looked SO good, couldn't we have kept it, at least until GSDS or generation V?--[[User:MisterE13|MisterE13]] 14:10, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
:It looked tropical to me XD [[User:Tesh|TESH]][[User_talk:Tesh|IGIGAS]] 16:49, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

== Usertags ==

Every time I add a usertag to my page, it gets eaten by the one above. What must I do to stop this (I'm signing here so my signiture won't be eaten as well)? [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 03:43, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Example:
{| class="userboxitem" style="border: 1px solid #082567;" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"
! style="background: #{{normal color}};" | [[Image:OakSprite.png|50px]]
| style="background: #{{water color}}; color: #006;" | This user knows what he is talking about.
|}
Try it now--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 03:48, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
:Closing it would be nice--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:I tried several different combonations of } and |, but in the end I needed help. Thank you for providing it, RexRacer! [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 03:54, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Wait... How do you make usertags? [[User:GuyNamedSean|GuyNamedSean]] 18:54, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
::Just look at the coding for this one, and copy+paste it. if you know a little bit about wiki-coding, you shouldn't have much trouble changing it to say what you like. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 20:09, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

== Edit request ==

I'm requesting an edit. Please make all the headers smaller, such as making level 1 headers into level 2 headers, level 2 headers into level 3 headers, etc. [[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]][[User talk:Chocolate|((Talk to Me]][[Special:Contributions/Chocolate||Look at My Contributions))]] 01:24, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
:Any particular reason? They seem fine as they are to me, are they showing up too big in your browser or something of the sort? --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 01:31, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
::It should be like that because almost every other page on the 'Pedia has it like that. [[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]][[User talk:Chocolate|((Talk to Me]][[Special:Contributions/Chocolate||Look at My Contributions))]] 01:35, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
:::The text gets much smaller with each added level, however. To make up for the edit, all the headers would need to be giving <nowiki><big></nowiki> tags as well as the additional levels, while the current setup doesn't actually hurt the page. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 01:40, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
::::But I saw something in the MoS before that said to always start out with level 2 headers. Plus, TTE greatly opposes level 1 headers. [[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]][[User talk:Chocolate|((Talk to Me]][[Special:Contributions/Chocolate||Look at My Contributions))]] 01:42, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::Main Page is a different thing. Level 1 headers are fine here. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:59, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::Why are level 1 headers okay on the main page? They're too big IMO. [[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]][[User talk:Chocolate|((Talk to Me]][[Special:Contributions/Chocolate||Look at My Contributions))]] 02:01, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I would say it's the size that makes them okay here. The main page isn't an article in the sense that it's about a certain topic, it's about multiple topics. Thus, the main sections get larger headers then your average article, which only has a single H1 header (the title of the page is an H1 header), and sub-sections in H2 headers. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 04:52, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Consider Bulbapedia as "The BIG book of Pokémon". The Main Page is the cover of the book and will need big titles, and, as you delve deeper into the book, the headers become smaller because they are the different chapters. [[User:Tesh|TESH]][[User_talk:Tesh|IGIGAS]] 20:18, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
:If we sized the biggest heading down, then all the small headings would become way too small. [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arceus''']] 20:20, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

== Dead links ==

What is the official policy on non-existant links? Assuming he isn't planning to create an article for them, should one leave them red or change them to text? [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 20:13, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
:who is creating red links? and dont do it yourself, it shows up in the wanted pages. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:20, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
::I don't think you really intended to, but you answered my question. [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 20:36, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Delete if in mainspace AND if its a mispelling[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::::avoid red links unless its an article that really should be created, like, [[Modified format (TCG)]]. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:41, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::Mostly, let an admin deal with redlinks. They know what to do the most, and they know what is notable and what isn't. All redlinks appear in the Wanted pages, and I check that for mistakes daily...so, an admin will get them sooner or later. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:50, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

== READ THIS ==

[[Talk:List of moves#XD Shadow Moves Are Not ???-type|This]] is a truly annoying error; I want permission to change it...[[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 15:56, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
:Then fix it. its not tough[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

== Shiny and new! ==

Anyone got anything to say for the Main Page? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:58, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah. {{tt|It's great!|However, I would have liked Water-types instead of Grass-types........}} And why not keep them permanently?--'''[[User:Diby|Di]][[User talk:Diby|b]][[Special:Contributions/Diby|y]]''' 10:52, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
:: Was hoping noone would reply.... I actually like it, Nice and clean. But too bad were not gonna keep it permanently....--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|Force]] [[User:Force Fire|''Fire'']] [[User talk:Force Fire|''talk'']] 11:00, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
:::It took me a moment to get used to it. It looks awesome, and incorporates the mascot and colors of the site very well. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 12:23, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
::::I like it. Shame it's not permanent. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 18:38, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::The default colors can be found at {{template|Main Page/Default}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:23, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::Why isn't this permanent? [[User:Bulbapedian|Bulbapedian]] - [[User talk:Bulbapedian|Talk]] 21:07, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

==If we be's making a move template==
I suggest instead ov the typing of the pokémon, like everywhere else, we colour the moves. An example would be, if a pokémon's level-up moves were posion jap and then water gun, it would look like this Poison jab water gun. Who agrees? [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]]

:The downside of that is that is there's a few colors that are quite close. For example:
*'''Ghost'''
*'''Poison'''
*'''Dragon'''
:Unless you've got them memorized, or we stick a rather large color-key at the top of every movelist, it would be easy to confuse those three, just for one example (since they're all shades of purple).
:I'm all for coloring, but if anything, it would only be done in addition to other info. Which might be a good idea, assuming the colors don't make it tougher to read or anything. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 18:38, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
::So, what do you mean, for the party template or for the level up/TM/HM/MT lists? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:23, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Yeah. Any problems? [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]]
::::Oops. Level up ect moves. [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]]
:::::Except we already have a column in those tables that shows the type (with a coloured background).--[[User:MisterE13|MisterE13]] 22:10, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

== Mobile version ==

I was wondering and thought: should Bulbapedia have a mobile version, specially for the iPhone/iPod touch? I'm suggesting this because Wikipedia recently launched a mobile version. It would be very useful since sometimes people need to access Bulbapedia and can't go to a computer and because the full version is not very practical to use in a mobile device. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 22:47, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:Good idea. [[User:Yinyang1195|Yin]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|Yang]] 22:26, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::We will be doing this in the near future. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:10, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

== RIP Maddie ==

You will be missed. --[[User:Jonouchi|Jonouchi]] 01:29, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

I am crushed! --[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 02:43, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

I want to thank whoever changed the template for the main page to be white and feature Meowth with the rest of Team Rocket's Pokemon. Thank You. --[[User: Kyle95|Kyle95]] 9:49, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== Edit Count ==

[[User_talk:TTEchidna/Archive_Dec_08_1#Edit_Count|For those interested]], I've figured out how to trick a Wikipedia tool into working for Bulbapedia. [http://toolserver.org/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate Check it out] if you're interested about the eternal war between the mainspace and the allied forces of everything else; just change the site from the default (''en.wikipedia.org'') to ''bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net''. Have fun! — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:50, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:[[User:Gligar]] and I already had a link for that on our Userpages....[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::And now there's a link to it on the Main Page's talk. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 13:18, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Touché, Mr. Bond.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::::Oughtn't be used so often, plz. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:09, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::{{tt|Why not?|What, the Wikimedia foundation takes a commission every time I click there?}} I understand that it isn't a competition, but it's useful for badgering people to do mainspace instead of trolling the talks. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 04:34, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::Takes a load on the server as the tool searches through contributions and sorts them. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 04:42, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

== Wait a second...... ==

What happened to all the other skins?[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:In preferences.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

== Form/Forme ==

(see next comment by user)[[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 14:58, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
:Wait until you can prove it wrong.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::Is there a way to block the words form and forme from the talk pages? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 14:49, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm only asking, at what point can we say for sure? Here, I'll rephrase it in a far less biased way (I admit, my POV was a bit too obvious): When can the "form/forme" discussion be resolved? One side has to accept definitive proof sometime....Will the English release of Platinum be enough to do it? [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 14:57, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
::::I would have thought pokemon.com's using "forme" in the Platinum REveal would have been enough. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 14:55, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Actually, this would be better if you took it to the forums. Forums........AWAY!!!![[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
(Resetting indent)I don't want a debate, though. I'm asking a question: Will the English release of Platinum be definitive? [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 14:59, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::I was just about to say the Platinum reveal thing but have been blocked by a quadruple edit conflict. {{tt|Looks like you're all stuck with it.|I, however, kind of like it.}} This page should be archived. Also, if Pokémon.com is saying it, it probably is.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 15:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC) 
I apologize for the edit conflict, I got the same thing about six times in a row. That means you got it seven times in a row. >_< [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 15:03, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Yes, Yes, Yes, we all get it. Forme officially. But if you feel a need to argue then take it to the forums. and this gets archived at 100[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
==Santa's Coming Soon==
**what are you supposed to write in the article santa is coming soon???--[[Mew (Pokémon)|M]][[User:MyUU|yU]][[User talk:MyUU|U]] 03:13, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

:Hmmm. I wonder... --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 03:15, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
::It's an ending for a Pikachu Short. Get the lyrics, get the song stuff, use the other song endings in order to get a style. It isn't rocket science, you know! ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 05:39, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
:::I can't seem to find it anywhere D:--[[Santa Claus|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチュウ!''']] 05:46, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

== Clock ==

When did the clock next to the username area above appear there? I find it very convenient, and I would like to give its creator credit, so who did it, also? --[[User:Bulbapedian|Bulbapedian]] - [[User talk:Bulbapedian|Talk]] 03:08, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
:[[User:Poke]] gave it to us.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 03:09, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

== HAPPY NEW YEAR! ==

:Happy New Year Bulbapedia! I {{tt|love|this is what champagne does to you}} you all![[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 05:36, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

== Just wondering ==

For the message from the editor mini-sprite, wouldn't that be better as a [[User:TTEchidna|Cyndaquil or Typhlosion]]? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 00:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
:I think it depends on who updated it last. I forgot what user has the Blastoise as their icon tho... --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:12, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
::Ah, okay then. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 00:13, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
:::{{u|evkl}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:37, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

== Yeah, uh.... ==

I noticed this under the "Did you know..." section:
# ...that at level 1 or 100, Magikarp is both the lowest and highest level non-glitch Pokémon available for capture?
But earlier, it said:
"# ...that at level 80, Arceus is the highest level non-glitch Pokémon available for capture?"
So, what happened? I know the first one is wrong...
[[User:Patriotfan09|'''Patriot''']][[User talk:Patriotfan09|'''fan''']][[User_talk:Patriotfan09/Phantom_Gym|'''09''']] 06:06, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

:Nope, someone found out that in Platinum there's a pool at the Resort Area which can yield Magikarp from levels 1 through 100. So it's not wrong now. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:09, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
::Oh, that's pretty hot. I'm aiming for a level 99 Magikarp most definitely (if you get it at level 100, you'll never be able to evolve it, which is mildly useless).
::Where is this news, anyway? --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 07:41, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
::: I actually fail to believe this..... Theres no way you can catch a level 100 Pokémon, then there's no way to evolve it. where did you get this information from anyway?--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|Force]] [[User:Force Fire|''Fire'']] [[User talk:Force Fire|''talk'']] 07:43, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
::::It's perfectly viable. If you level up a Pokémon to level 100, then you can't evolve it; why should catching it be any different? Also, it would suck. A lot. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 07:46, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::{{u|Daru}} kept adding that info before Magnedeth confirmed it. It's on serebii, here: http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/location/129.shtml Under Resort Area.--'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 08:01, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Oh, my bad. I didn't hear about that. Sorry [[User:Patriotfan09|'''Patriot''']][[User talk:Patriotfan09|'''fan''']][[User_talk:Patriotfan09/Phantom_Gym|'''09''']] 20:30, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Poison Rose tested it also. She got up to a level 99, but it should take just a little more time to catch a level 100[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 20:32, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I saw that on IPGL, and I might test it myself. Either way, I realize I was wrong. Sorry again [[User:Patriotfan09|'''Patriot''']][[User talk:Patriotfan09|'''fan''']][[User_talk:Patriotfan09/Phantom_Gym|'''09''']] 03:42, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

== i think there's a pointless link ==

Has anyone else noticed that the Main Page links to itself? {{wp|Dolphin|Dolphins}}[[User:Dolphin2|_are]][[Special:Contributions|_awesome]] (and {{p|Vulpix}} are too)! 23:51, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:Where? [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 23:55, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::At the top where it links to Bulbagarden and the forums it also links to Bulbapedia. [[wp:Dolphin|Dolphins]][[User:Dolphin2|_are]][[Special:Contributions|_awesome]] (and [[Vulpix (Pokémon)|Vulpix]] are too)! 00:23, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh, you mean the navigation bar. That's set for every page, it can't be told to skip a link when it's on the front page. If you're going to count that, then you should count the BP logo too, since that links to the main page. >.< --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 00:27, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

== Phase 2... ==

...is a day late. [[User:SharKing|'''シャーキング''']] [[User talk:SharKing|私に相談してください。]] [[Special:Contributions/SharKing|自分の編集を参照してください。]] 02:12, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:...was delayed 'til the 14th [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 02:15, 13 January 2009
::was it delayed again? Im just wondering --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 21:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
:::i wasnt aware it was Thursday already. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:41, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
::::It isn't, but today is the 14th.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 21:42, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::theres still 2hrs 45mins before the 14th ends UTC time, and even then, if you go by Eastern, thats 7:45 away, or 10:45 Pacific time. relax kids. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:48, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::It'll take place overnight, between tonight and tomorrow. The day number isn't hugely important. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 21:48, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon's items ==

i think the only thing is missing in the pokedex, or pokemon information is the items that htey sometimes are holding in the wild, it could be great is you add that up, with that it'll be totally complete - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Porygon2z}} ([[User talk:Porygon2z|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Porygon2z|contribs]]){{ #if: at 18:48, 18 January 2009 (UTC) | at 18:48, 18 January 2009 (UTC) |}}''
:That kind of information is on the item page. Lets use [[Thick Club]] for an example...it's right there. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 19:17, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
::Regardless of that, I think this should be mentioned on the Poke's page too. I know that some, usually the ones who hold berries, already have this mentioned, but the rest of them aren't there. It would be a step toward completeness. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 20:53, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:::It's been brought up before. It's just a matter of working out how to implement it. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:05, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

== Promo Art for Movie 11 ==

Any way we have of using the pictures featured under the characters section? Good shot of everyone's teams, minus Mamoswine and Grotle. See [http://www.pokemon.com/PokemonGiratinaMovie/ Here]. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 19:30, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:I see no use for such an image...that's just me. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:42, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

::That's because Mamoswine and Grotle hadn't evolved yet.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight the ampharos]] 13:12, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

== Event Pokemon ==

What would anyone say to incorporating a list of Event locations on the Pokemon articles. I.e.

Regigigas (Pokemon)

...

==Game locations==
===In side games===
<data>
===By event===
<data>

Reasons for:
* Completeness of the encyclopedia
* Easy to link to variants of the same event Pokemon, ie Regigigas (hence the example)

Reasons against:
* People are too lazy to change stuff (well, I hope not)

Comments? — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:06, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:?. Is that really neccesary?[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Mock Me]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Edits))]],

== Malware? ==

Google seems to think this site is Malware. Someone should probably look into that... [[User:Vaati000|Vaati000]] 15:08, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:I was just about to say that.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 15:09, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:I think the problem's with Google. I searched sites I've been to previously, like the Pokémon official sites and even Google itself and all had that message. *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 15:17, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::It doesn't say anything about malware to me. All it does is bring me to the Main Page once I click it. [[User:PH1RESTRIKE| Fi-ray ]][[User talk:PH1RESTRIKE| ►strike! ]] 15:19, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:::it's fine now [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 15:27, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

== Movies on TV ==

[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]] airs in the US one day (15th) after [[The Rise of Darkrai]] airs in the UK (14th). The Rise of Darkrai will be shown on Jetix, if you were interested. [[User:Tesh|Teshigigas]] [[User_talk:Tesh|[Talk]]] 12:02, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:I noticed that too [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 18:24, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

== Marill Card ==

{{tt|I have a copy of the Topps card that calls Marill "Pikablu"|Note: I'm asking here because Marill's talk page was deleted}}. If I scanned it and uploaded it, would this be useful? [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 01:18, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
:It was deleted because it was spam. Please go post this there. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 01:24, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

== Happy Anniversary! ==

Happy 4th Anniversary, Bulbapedia! (and Happy Valentines too. :P) --×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 02:57, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

:<nowiki>*</nowiki>salutes* [[User:PH1RESTRIKE| 1337Fire ]][[User talk:PH1RESTRIKE| ►strike! ]] 03:01, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::Yea, I love the color scheme too.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 03:06, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

== Cry? ==

Why does it say CRY in capital letters next to the picture on every Pokémon article? Are you supposed to click it to hear the Pokémon's cry? It wouldn't work for me. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 11:11, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:Right now, they don't do anything. But don't worry, soon you will see the purpose of them on all 493 Pokémon pages ;) - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 11:18, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::OMG!!! Are you going to be putting in sound files?--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 12:38, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:::That'll be kinda hard considering the Wiki's limitations to one sound type...'''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 12:50, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Archaic's installing MP3 software for this. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 04:32, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Sweetness. I knew it.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 09:24, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::Thank you for applying my suggestion of adding a cry feature. ^_^ [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 12:21, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

== Deoxys/Giratina/Shaymin Formes ==

I notice that in the main picture box on the main page only one forme is showing for each of these pokemon (speed, altered and sky) instead of all of them like before. But other pokemon with form differences (wormadon(sp) and rotom) all of them are still shown. Is this a new policy on form differences or what? [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 22:11, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
:Check Giratina's page now, and then in a half hour or so click on the clock at the top of the page. You'll see. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:32, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
::Basically, Giratina changes every hour, Deoxys every day and Shaymin is in Sky form at the UTC time that it is allowed to be in the games (4AM-8PM) I don't know if we should include it for non-legendaries' or just the ones with form'''''e'''''s.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:11, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
I think all the Pokémon should change form except for Gastrodon and Wormadam, as they can't actually change form. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 11:48, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I could do it but I'd rather not be the one who makes the decision as to the time increments between changes.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:00, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

=="THE Mew?"==

What the? [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 14:15, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:Grammatically, it's correct. Technically, well...'''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 14:37, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

== Countdown!!! ==

Love the countdown clock TTE :D--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 10:00, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

What's so special about March 22nd? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 11:08, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
:See {{v|Platinum}}'s page. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 11:11, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
::I think it's about 5 days off. 3 more days in February plus the 22 days in March. 3+22=25.—[[User:Blazevoir|Blazevoir]][[User Talk:Blazevoir|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Blazevoir|Contribs]] 11:15, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
:::It says 25 days to go for me, so that's right. If it's wrong for you, maybe you need to adjust your time and date settings in your preferences? --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 11:20, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Never mind. My Wii's clock was messed up from me not playing MPR for awhile.—[[User:Blazevoir|Blazevoir]][[User Talk:Blazevoir|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Blazevoir|Contribs]] 20:22, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well, I live in Australia so its about 100 years for me. Haha, thank goodness for ebay.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 21:18, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::It's kind of biased. I think there should be a countdown for other places with release dates. [[User:Tesh|Teshigigas]] [[User_talk:Tesh|[Talk]]] 21:25, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::After the US version has been released, a countdown should be put up for the European version, otherwise this is very unfair....[[User:Prof. Pine]] 21:45 24 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::This is mainly an America-based site. There's other Pokémon Wikis for some other countries mentioned at the bottom of the page. [[User:Yinyang1195|Yin]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|Yang]] 23:03, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Plus, while the European and Australian releases are in the summer... dude, we can't be changing the page's color every ten days. And yes, you can order the English version (which is the same version you'll get anyway) from US retailers. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:25, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::Which will, of course, destroy your life if you wished to import Pokémon from your 3rd Gen PAL Games ^^ --[[User:InvocK|InvocK]] 23:29, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::It doesn't matter, PAL or NTSC, it matters the language for Pal Park. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:24, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::Yeah, my Pearl is from the US. Btw, does any know a Platinum pre-order site from US to Australia?--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 04:26, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Play-Asia. [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 08:14, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Is that American Pokemon Platinum?--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 08:33, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Yes. You just need to select the US version, and take care not to order two or more by accident. It'll ship as soon as the game comes out, perhaps earlier if you get your order in quickly enough (I ordered back in January). [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 05:54, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

== Shiny Pages ==

Do you know how on the Arceus page the type and type of Arceus in the evo box is randomly chosen (1in18 for each one), and there's a similar situation for the letter of Unown that appear in the evo box (1in28). So how about having a 1in8192 chance on each page of the shiny sprites appearing on the evo box? Or would that be too impractical to code? [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 18:47, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
:sounds cool but I don't know anyone who could do that [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 18:49, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
::[[Template:Arceustype]] uses "switch". If sprite filenames are named in a similar pattern (like number.png and number_s.png) I think it is possible to do so. — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]]
:::Impractical. '''''Extremely''''' impractical to have the evobox flip to a shiny on extreme rarity. I believe in due time, the Sprite box for {{p|Unown}} will be changed to allow the letters to change. That will allow you to see the shiny sprites of the "current letter" each time you view the page. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 19:20, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
::::I agree. Though I think the same about {{p|Arceus}} page too. — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 07:38, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
It's a good idea, but I have a feeling that some people would repetitively refresh the pages trying to get a shiny. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 14:37, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Unown and Arceus only do that because having a table of 139 (or even 37 would stretch the page WAY too much. Showing a few extra boxes for the shiny's (even Rotom's) don't take up that much and besides, almost no one would ever see the shinies if we did that which defeats the purpose of having an encyclopedic collection of them all (and if they did, they'd probably brag about it on the talk page).--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 14:46, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

== Background color ==

What's this with a gray background (and border) on the main page? Maybe it should be left transparent and no borders? — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 07:40, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
:It looks fine to me. Besides, it's to signify the arrival of Pokémon Platinum. Though I don't see why there's a '''red''' border (it should be light grey or something), it still looks fine. ''[[User:ShinjiLover|シンジ]]'''''[[Paul|Shinji]]'''[[User talk:ShinjiLover|Lover]],'''[[Special:Contributions/ShinjiLover|Edits]]''' 07:43, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
::Giratiiiiina! I'd have golden text but I figured it'd piss ''someone'' off. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:44, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Maybe a golden border? Apparently the red border pisses someone off, so there's nothing to lose. XD ''[[User:ShinjiLover|シンジ]]'''''[[Paul|Shinji]]'''[[User talk:ShinjiLover|Lover]],'''[[Special:Contributions/ShinjiLover|Edits]]''' 08:01, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Golden border would seem to imply "OMGZ GSDS" to me. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:19, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
::It's a bit hard to read black on grey. — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 09:51, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Ehh, not that much. Try increasing monitor's brightness? '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 11:00, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
::::It looks great to me. :D Oh, boy I cant wait.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 11:24, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
::::It is brigth already :) The problem isn't brightness. It's contrast. Low-contrast color/background color isn't best accessibility wise. I'll make UserCSS for myself I think. — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 11:34, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::See what I mean? I do one little color change and everyone's mom gets scared and tells them to move in with their auntie and uncle in Bel Air. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:25, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::I made local UserCSS for myself. In case anybody needs it:

<nowiki>#content {font-size: medium !important;} /* for better readability */</nowiki> 
<nowiki>.page-Main_Page .KonaBody > table:first-child {border: none !important;} /* removes border */</nowiki> 
<nowiki>.page-Main_Page .KonaBody * {background: none !important;} /* removes background from all descendants of .KonaBody on the main page */</nowiki>

::::::Delete this if it's not appropriate here. — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 06:51, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Well, if you really don't wanna see the Main Page's colors change... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:34, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

== New Article? ==

Sorry I've made the talk page even more ridiculously long, but I've had an idea for a new article! I was surprised to find that there isn't an article entitled "Pokémon Licence", does anyone mind if I start one? After all, its a very important subject, as you need a Pokémon License to train Pokémon. I could start by explaining the various ways of recieving the Lisense, and that you need to be at least ten years old, and so on. Does anyone have any views on this matter? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 12:30, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
:...to be honest, there's a [[Trainer card|page on a similar object...]] '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 12:32, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
::Of course. I think its a great idea.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 12:33, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Wait a minute!!!! Don't start writing the article yet. We already have an article about it, [[Pokémon trainer's license]].--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 12:38, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Oh, oops, it didn't know the article had the word "Trainer's" in it! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 14:35, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

== Error in Main Page "Did you know..." ==

It says that Smeargle can't Sketch Metronome, but it can.

When Smeargle uses Sketch on a pokemon that just used Metronome, it will Sketch Metronome, not the randomly picked move. - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Blueapple128}} ([[User talk:Blueapple128|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Blueapple128|contribs]]) ''
:Actually, it can't learn {{m|Metronome}} with {{m|Sketch}}. It also can't learn {{m|Selfdestruct}} with Sketch, but that's not in there. . ''[[User:ShinjiLover|シンジ]]'''''[[Paul|Shinji]]'''[[User talk:ShinjiLover|Lover]],'''[[Special:Contributions/ShinjiLover|Edits]]''' 23:25, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
::It can learn {{m|Selfdestruct}} and {{m|Explosion}} through Sketch if a Pokémon with the {{a|Damp}} ability is also in the battle (like a double battle or something). There's all the information on the {{m|Sketch|article itself}}. '''~ overgrown[[User:Sol|s]][[User_talk:Sol|o]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|l]]''' 23:27, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
It can learn Metronome.I've tried it myself.[[User:Uxie legend|Uxie Legend]] 16:21, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Blissey (Pokémon)

2009-02-20T09:57:17Z

Uxie legend: /* Trivia Section:R/S&FRLG Sprite vs. Emerald Sprite */ new section

Would You Use This Pokemon in a team???
: Yes I would. [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 22:39, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
:: Of course yes, what's the problem?--'''[[User:Haruka uzumaki|うずまき]][[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|ハルカ]]''' 23:29, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
what moves my blissey should have?
*Lulz
*This doesn't go here
*Softboiled
*For The Forums
:Those are the moves you should give it. {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]][http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe δ]{{ani|282}} 22:52, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I'd suggest this:
* Seismic Toss (Move Tutor in Gen. 3)
* Softboiled
* Thunder Wave
* Stealth Rock
[[User:SharKing|SharKing]] 04:30, 25 August 2008 (UTC)SharKing

== Notability ==

I am not sure but should the article for Jessie's Blissey be made? It was as notable as [[Orville]] or [[Nero]]. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 18:25, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

It's really Nurse Joy's Blissey, because it is employed at the Pokémon Center, but I still don't think so--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:26, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
:It was Jessie's friend and there is also a lot of back story, enough for a good article. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 18:31, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
::Keep in mind, there are disputes with Orville and Nero at this point in time. For now, I don't think we should have an article on it. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 18:34, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

== Experience Yield ==

Could someone please fix the part that says about how much experience a Blissey would yield?
I hava problems with English grammar since I'm not a native speaker and never left Brazil.
According to the formula [[Experience|here]], ''Experience Yield = (a x b x L)/7''
A level 100 Blissey who belongs to a trainer would yield 5464 experience points. In order to reach the written value in the article (13933) we would need to multiply x1,5 ([[Lucky Egg]]) and x1,7 (traded Pokémon from a foreing country)
This is to note the maximum experience one could get from defeating a single Pokémon in the games, even if such encounters (lv 100 Blissey, Arceus or Chansey) aren't possible.
It would be interesting if someone could say if it is the maximum base experience yield or not (for instance, we know Blissey's base HP is 255 and there can't be a value higher than that. I don't know, however, if there can be a base experience yield higher than 255)
The same goes for the articles about [[Arceus_(Pokémon)|Arceus]] and [[Chansey_(Pokémon)|Chansey]]
.
[[User:Diby esp|Gabriel Rocha]] 15:58, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

== Trivia Section:R/S&FRLG Sprite vs. Emerald Sprite ==

In case anyone noticed,the Ruby/Sapphire/FireRed/LeafGreen Sprite of Blissey has little grey spots on the egg,while the Emerald one is purely white.Trivia?

Talk:Claydol (Pokémon)

2009-02-20T09:49:10Z

Uxie legend: /* C.C(Claydol colour) */

== TM/HM ==

Where the heck are they? You know, I'm having doubts on this site now... <_<- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Nidolord500|Nidolord500]] ([[User talk:Nidolord500|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nidolord500|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:Limited amount of contributors + people who don't follow the {{bp|manual of style}} + other things to do = no real chance to implemet the movesets everywhere. Wanna help, maybe? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 04:57, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::Hence why I never used BP as a Pokédex, but for more behavior-ish related things.. imo, that's what Bulbapedia is more of. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 18:29, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Hey I'll be glad to help. I'm working on {{p|Baltoy}} as we speak.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 20:29, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

== C.C(Claydol colour) ==

I added the fact of colour difference between the artwork and the sprite to the trivia section.[[User:Uxie legend|Uxie Legend]] 09:49, 20 February 2009 (UTC) 17:30, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

== Claydol:The symbols on it's body ==

Another thing that has come into my mind:
For me,these symbols on Claydol always looked like breasts.After all,Claydol is described as a figu'''rine''',right?- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Uxie legend}} ([[User talk:Uxie legend|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Uxie legend|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:The word {{wp|figurine}} doesn't denote femininity. — [[User:Laoris|Laoris]] ([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]]) 18:00, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Sendoff Spring

2009-02-16T18:33:11Z

Uxie legend: /* 'Bridge' */ new section

Question:

Why do we have "after getting National Dex" in here if the area ''can't even be '''visited''' until after you have the thing?!'' '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:46, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

== ... ==

See any similarities to [[Cerulean Cave|this place]]? Both=after nat'l dex, both=hordes of lv 50s, both=lv 70 legendary Pokémon, both=mazelike, etc. Mention please. [[User:PH1RESTRIKE|PH1RESTRIKE]] 21:14, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

== 'Bridge' ==

What about that wooden plank?It reminds me of pirates!That would explain the name:Sendoff Spring
A fatal punishment...jumping into the icy waters,near the cave where death itself resides.

Mismagius (Pokémon)

2009-02-14T13:11:34Z

Uxie legend: /* Trivia */

{{PokémonPrevNext | type=ghost | prevnum=428 | nextnum=430 | prev=Lopunny | next=Honchkrow }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Mismagius |
jname=ムウマージ |
tmname=Mumage |
image=ArtMumage.png |
caption=Artwork from D/P |
pron=<sc>mis-may-jus</sc>|
ndex=429 |
sdex=073 |
adex=221 |
typen=1 |
type1=Ghost |
type2= |
species=Magical |
height-ftin=2'11" |
height-m=0.9 |
weight-lbs=9.7 |
weight-kg=4.4 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Levitate |
ability2= |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Indeterminate |
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=25 |
evsa=1|
evsd=1|
expyield=187 |
lv100exp=800,000 |
gendercode=127|
color=Purple |
catchrate=45 |
body= 01|
generation=4 |
footnotes=}}
'''Mismagius''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ムウマージ''' ''Mumage'') is a {{type2|Ghost}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolve]]s from {{p|Misdreavus}} via {{evostone|Dusk Stone}}.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Mismagius is a purple ghost-like Pokémon that has the appearance of wearing a cloak. The pearls of Mismagius's necklace have a slightly elliptical shape to them. It has a round head and a witch's hat. Mismagius has a skinny, red mouth that looks like a "W".

====Gender differences====
None.

====Special abilities====
Mismagius has the same abilities as {{p|Misdreavus}}, except Mismagius is more powerful and can now use {{m|Magical Leaf}}, {{m|Energy Ball}}, and {{m|Lucky Chant}}.

Since Mismagius is a fully evolved Pokémon, it is capable of using {{m|Hyper Beam}} and {{m|Giga Impact}}.

===Behavior===
Mismagius tend to hum incantations that can cause headaches and hallucinations. However, sometimes it hums {{m|Lucky Chant}}s instead.

===Habitat===
===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:Mismagius anime.PNG|thumb|210px|Mismagius in the anime]]
Mismagius made its first appearance in ''[[DP043|Malice in Wonderland!]]''.

Mismagius made a second appearance in ''[[DP086|Arriving in Style!]]'' in the [[Hearthome Collection]] Contest as one of [[Cocoa]]'s Pokémon.

[[Fantina]] has a Mismagius that she used to battle [[Zoey's Glameow]] in ''[[DP093|Playing The Leveling Field!]]''. It reappeared in [[DP101]] and again in [[DP102]] where it was used in the gym battle against {{Ash}}.

==In the manga==
===In Pokémon Special===

Platina battled a Mismagius in her gym battle against Fantina in DP 42 and 43

==In the TCG==
{{main|Mismagius (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=ghost
|gen=4
|diamonddex=Its cries sound like incantations. Those hearing it are tormented by headaches and hallucinations.
|pearldex=It chants incantations. While they usually torment targets, some chants bring happiness.
|platinumdex=Its cry sounds like incantation. It is said that the cry may rarely be imbued with happiness-giving power.
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=ghost |
gen=4 |
dparea=[[Evolve]] {{p|Misdreavus}} |
}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=Ghost
|md2=[[Dark Crater|Dark Crater Pit]] (B7-B14) [[Mt. Mistral]] (1F-19F)
|ranger2=[[Almia Castle]]
}}

===Base stats===
{{BaseStats|
type=ghost |
HP=60 |
Attack=60 |
Defense=60 |
SpAtk=105 |
SpDef=105 |
Speed=105 }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Ghost|

Normal= 0 |
Fighting= 0 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 50 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 200 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric= 100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 200 |

notes=yes|
ghost=yes|
newnormal=1|
newfighting=1|
levitate=yes|
newground=1}}

===Learnset===
{{learnset intro|Mismagius}}
====By [[level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|ghost|ghost|4|4|Mismagius}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Lucky Chant|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Magical Leaf|Grass|Special|60|—|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Growl|Normal|Status|—|100|40|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Psywave|Psychic|Special|—|80|15|Smart|3}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Spite|Ghost|Status|—|100|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Astonish|Ghost|Physical|30|100|15|Smart|3||'''}}
{{movelist/note|4|ghost}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|ghost|ghost|4|4|Mismagius}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM04]]|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM12]]|Taunt|Dark|Status|—|100|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM24]]|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|95|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM25]]|Thunder|Electric|Special|120|70|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM29]]|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM30]]|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM34]]|Shock Wave|Electric|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM40]]|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM41]]|Torment|Dark|Status|—|100|15|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM45]]|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM46]]|Thief|Dark|Physical|40|100|10|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM48]]|Skill Swap|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM49]]|Snatch|Dark|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM53]]|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM57]]|Charge Beam|Electric|Special|50|90|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM61]]|Will-O-Wisp|Fire|Status|—|75|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM63]]|Embargo|Dark|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM66]]|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10|Cool|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM70]]|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM73]]|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM77]]|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM78]]|Captivate|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM79]]|Dark Pulse|Dark|Special|80|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM85]]|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM92]]|Trick Room|Psychic|Status|—|—|5|Cute|2}}
{{movelist/note|4|ghost}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{eggmoves|ghost|ghost|4|4|Mismagius}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Grimer}}, {{p|Muk}} {{p|Gastly}}, {{p|Haunter}}, {{p|Gengar}} {{p|Koffing}}, {{p|Weezing}} {{p|Slugma}}, {{p|Magcargo}} {{p|Gulpin}}, {{p|Swalot}} {{p|Shuppet}}, {{p|Banette}} {{p|Duskull}}, {{p|Dusclops}}, {{p|Dusknoir}} {{p|Chimecho}} {{p|Spiritomb}}|Curse|???|Status|—|—|10|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Gastly}}, {{p|Haunter}}, {{p|Gengar}} {{p|Koffing}}, {{p|Weezing}} {{p|Wobbuffet}} {{p|Ralts}}, {{p|Kirlia}}, {{p|Gardevoir}}, {{p|Gallade}} {{p|Gulpin}}, {{p|Swalot}} {{p|Shuppet}}, {{p|Banette}} {{p|Duskull}}, {{p|Dusclops}}, {{p|Dusknoir}} {{p|Drifloon}}, {{p|Drifblim}} {{p|Spiritomb}} {{p|Rotom}}|Destiny Bond|Ghost|Status|—|—|5|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Grimer}}, {{p|Muk}} {{p|Ralts}}, {{p|Kirlia}}, {{p|Gardevoir}}, {{p|Gallade}} {{p|Shuppet}}, {{p|Banette}} {{p|Duskull}}, {{p|Dusclops}}, {{p|Dusknoir}} {{p|Spiritomb}}|Imprison|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Grimer}}, {{p|Muk}} {{p|Koffing}}, {{p|Weezing}} {{p|Slugma}}, {{p|Magcargo}} {{p|Ralts}}, {{p|Kirlia}}, {{p|Gardevoir}}, {{p|Gallade}} {{p|Duskull}}, {{p|Dusclops}}, {{p|Dusknoir}} {{p|Shellos}}, {{p|Gastrodon}} {{p|Drifloon}}, {{p|Drifblim}} {{p|Spiritomb}}|Memento|Dark|Status|—|100|10|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Duskull}}, {{p|Dusclops}}, {{p|Dusknoir}} {{p|Drifloon}}, {{p|Drifblim}} {{p|Spiritomb}}|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|60|100|5|Smart|0||'''}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Grimer}}, {{p|Muk}} {{p|Koffing}}, {{p|Weezing}} {{p|Shuppet}}, {{p|Banette}}|Screech|Normal|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Grimer}}, {{p|Muk}} {{p|Ralts}}, {{p|Kirlia}}, {{p|Gardevoir}}, {{p|Gallade}} {{p|Shuppet}}, {{p|Banette}} {{p|Duskull}}, {{p|Dusclops}}, {{p|Dusknoir}} {{p|Drifloon}}, {{p|Drifblim}} {{p|Spiritomb}}|Shadow Sneak|Ghost|Physical|40|100|30|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Gastly}}, {{p|Haunter}}, {{p|Gengar}} {{p|Shuppet}}, {{p|Banette}} {{p|Spiritomb}}|Sucker Punch|Dark|Physical|80|100|5|Smart|2}}
{{eggmoves/note|4|ghost}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|ghost|ghost|4a|4|Mismagius}}
{{mtentry4a|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|60|100|5|Smart|0||'''|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cool|3|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Spite|Ghost|Status|—|100|10|Tough|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Sucker Punch|Dark|Physical|80|100|5|Smart|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Trick|Psychic|Status|—|100|10|Smart|0|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Uproar|Normal|Special|50|100|10|Cute|2|||no|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4|ghost}}

===Side game data===
{{Side game|
type=ghost |
ndex=429 |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=8.2% |
iq=G |
Ranger2=yes |
typeG2= Ghost |
typeA2= Ghost |
field2= Psy Power |
field2power= 3 |

browser2= It attacks by launching eerie orbs and orbs imbued with loathsome emotions. |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox/1|200|Misdreavus|1|Ghost||[[Dusk Stone]]|429|Mismagius|1|Ghost}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=ghost|
gen=4|
gender=none|
ndex=429|
name=Mismagius|
}}

==Trivia==
* In the anime, Mismagius was seen to give everybody nightmares. However, it can't learn the move {{m|Nightmare}} naturally in the Generation IV games, although {{p|Misdreavus}} can learn it by move tutor in [[Generation III]].

*The Diamond and Pearl Sprite and the Platinum Sprite are almost exactly mirrored images of each other.

===Origin===
Like Murkrow, Mismagius is based off of a {{wp|witch}} or a {{wp|wizard}}.

====Name origin====
Mismagius's name is derived from ''mischief'' and ''{{wp|Magi in fantasy fiction and games|magus}}''. Mumage is a portmanteau of the words 夢魔 ''muma'', nightmare, and ''{{wp|Magi in fantasy fiction and games|mage}}''.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Traunmagil - From ''Traum'' (dream) and ''Magie'' (magic).
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Magireve - From ''magie'' (magic) and ''rêve'' (dream).
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: ???
*[[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese]]: 夢魔 ''Meng Mo''

==External links==

{{PokémonPrevNext | type=ghost | prevnum=428 | nextnum=430 | prev=Lopunny | next=Honchkrow }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Pokémon that are part of a two-stage evolutionary line]]
[[ja:ムウマージ]]
[[de:Traunmagil]]
[[pt:Mismagius (pokémon)]]

Jirachi (Pokémon)

2009-01-28T13:46:07Z

Uxie legend: /* Physiology */

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Rayquaza | next=Deoxys }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Jirachi |
jname=ジラーチ |
tmname=Jirachi |
image=385Jirachi.png |
caption=Artwork from R/S/E |
pron=<sc>jee-rah-chee</sc>|
ndex=385 |
hdex=201 |
typen=2 |
type1=Steel |
type2=Psychic |
species=Wish |
height-ftin=1′00″ |
height-m=0.3 |
weight-lbs=2.4 |
weight-kg=1.1 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Serene Grace |
ability2= |
egggroupn=0 |
egggroup1=No eggs |
egggroup2= |
hatchsteps=30,720 |
effortyield=3 HP |
expyield=215 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gender=none |
female=0 |
male=0 |
color=Yellow |
catchrate=3 |
body=12 |
pokefordex=jirachi |
generation=3 |
footnotes=}}
'''Jirachi''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ジラーチ''' ''Jirachi'') is a dual-type {{2t|Steel|Psychic}} [[legendary Pokémon]].

It is not known to evolve into or from any other Pokémon.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Jirachi is a small, white humanoid Pokémon. Jirachi has short, stubby legs like {{P|Cleffa}} and arms that makes Jirachi look like it's wearing a long-sleeved shirt. Its short legs are most likely the reason for it floating most of the time, rather than having to walk. There is a curved line on Jirachi's stomach which conceals a third eye that it rarely opens. Its two normal eyes have pale teal triangles underneath that resemble tears. Jirachi has two yellow streamers on its back. Jirachi appears to be wearing a yellow headdress that resembles a star. Three of the points have a teal-colored tag on them,that were probably stuck there by humans who wanted their wishes to come true.For Jirachi wakes up very rarely,the people note down their desires and attach them to it's head,if they would be lucky enough to encounter it.Jirachi has smooth skin that apparently has the hardness of {{t|steel}}.
====Gender differences====
Jirachi is a genderless species.
====Special abilities====
Jirachi has the ability to grant wishes.

Jirachi is the [[Signature move|only known Pokémon]] that learns {{m|Doom Desire}}.

===Behavior===
Jirachi spends most of its time asleep and is only awake for seven days once every 1,000 years when a voice of purity sings to it. During this time, Jirachi has the power to grant wishes. It has a child-like personality.

===Habitat===
[[Image:Mountain.gif|right|frame|[[List of Pokémon by habitat#Mountain Pokémon|Mountain Pokémon]]]]
In the anime, Jirachi hibernates in [[Forina]].

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:Jirachi.png|thumb|right|210px|Jirachi in the anime]]
[[Jirachi (anime)|Jirachi's only major anime appearance]] was in ''[[Jirachi: Wish Maker]]''. Jirachi will only awaken during the week of the thousand-year comet and if there is a partner that can be its friend. [[Max]] filled that role in the movie. However, [[Butler|The Great Butler]] wanted to use Jirachi's powers to awaken {{p|Groudon}}.

A Jirachi also had a very brief cameo in ''[[The Rise of Darkrai]]''.

==In the manga==
The seven days Jirachi was awake coincided with the seven days of the opening ceremonies for the {{ho|Battle Frontier}}. At the request of [[Professor Oak]], {{Special|Emerald}} tried to capture Jirachi while he was there. However, [[Guile Hideout]] managed to capture Jirachi first. At the end of the chapter, Jirachi opened its third eye to Emerald and revived the five Pokédex holders.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Jirachi (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
* [[Pokémon Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire]]: While in the Ruins, one of the slot machine prizes is the chance to capture Jirachi. Jirachi will move around and must be hit three times in 30 seconds for the capture to be successful. There is only one chance per game.

==Other appearances==
===[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]===
Jirachi appears as a rare Poké Ball Pokémon in its first appearance in the Super Smash Bros. series. The chance of it appearing is 1 in 493. Like the other "secret" Pokémon, it drops rare items instead of just flying away. In Jirachi's case, the items are stickers.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=steel
|type2=psychic
|gen=3
|rubydex=A legend states that Jirachi will make true any {{M|wish}} that is written on the notes attached to head when it awakens. If this Pokémon senses danger, it will fight without awakening.
|sapphiredex=Jirachi will awaken from its sleep of a thousand years if you sing to it in a voice of purity. It is said to make true any {{M|wish}} that people desire.
|emeralddex=Jirachi is said to make {{M|wish}}es come true. While it sleeps, a tough crystalline shell envelops the body to protect it from enemies.
|firereddex=It is said to make any {{M|wish}} come true. It is only awake for only seven days out of a thousand years.
|leafgreendex=It is said to make any {{M|wish}} come true. It is only awake for only seven days out of a thousand years.
|diamonddex=It is said to have the ability to grant any wish for just one week every thousand years.
|pearldex=It is said to use its power to fulfill any wish within the 7 days it awakens every 1000 years.
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=steel |
type2=psychic |
gen=3 |
rsrarity=One |
rsarea=[[Pokémon Colosseum Bonus Disc]] (US) [[Pokémon Channel]] (EU) |
frlgex=rse|
gen4ex=pal|
dparea=[[Pal Park]] |
ptarea=[[Pal Park]] |
palarea=Mountain |
}}

====In side games====

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{steel color}};"
! Game
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Channel]]
| [[Viridian Forest (Channel)|Camp Starlight]] (Sunday)
|-
| [[Pokémon Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire]]
| Ruins Slot Machine
|-
| [[Pokémon Trozei!]]
| Random Agent Cards Mr. Who's Den
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (Red and Blue)]]
| [[Wish Cave]] (99F)
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (Time and Darkness)]]
| [[Final Maze]] (B23F)
|}

===Base stats===
{{BaseStats|
type=steel|
type2=psychic|
HP=100 |
Attack=100 |
Defense=100 |
SpAtk=100 |
SpDef=100 |
Speed=100 }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=steel|
type2=psychic|
Normal= 50 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 50 |
Poison= 0 |
Ground= 200 |
Rock= 50 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 25 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 50 |
Dark= 100 }}

===Learnset===
{{learnset intro|Jirachi}}
====By [[level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|steel|psychic|4|3|Jirachi}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Wish|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Confusion|Psychic|Special|50|100|25|Smart|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|5|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|10|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|15|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|20|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|25|Refresh|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|30|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|35|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|40|Double-Edge|Normal|Physical|120|100|15|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|45|Gravity|Psychic|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|50|Healing Wish|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|55|Future Sight|Psychic|Special|80|90|15|Smart|2||}}
{{mlentry4|60|Cosmic Power|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|65|Last Resort|Normal|Physical|130|100|5|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|70|Doom Desire|Steel|Special|120|85|5|Cool|2}}
{{movelist/note|4|steel|psychic}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|Steel|Psychic|4|3|Jirachi}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM03]]|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM04]]|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM16]]|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM20]]|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM24]]|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|95|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM25]]|Thunder|Electric|Special|120|70|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM29]]|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM30]]|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM33]]|Reflect|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM34]]|Shock Wave|Electric|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM37]]|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM40]]|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM48]]|Skill Swap|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM53]]|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM56]]|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10|Tough|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM57]]|Charge Beam|Electric|Special|50|90|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM60]]|Drain Punch|Fighting|Physical|60|100|5|Beauty|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM67]]|Recycle|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM70]]|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM73]]|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM76]]|Stealth Rock|Rock|Status|—|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM77]]|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM85]]|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15|Smart|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM86]]|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM89]]|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM91]]|Flash Cannon|Steel|Special|80|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM92]]|Trick Room|Psychic|Status|—|—|5|Cute|2}}
{{movelist/note|4|steel|psychic}}

====By [[breeding]]====
Jirachi cannot breed or inherit any moves.

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|steel|psychic|4b|3|Jirachi}}
{{mtentry4|AncientPower|Rock|Special|60|100|5|Tough|2|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Body Slam|Normal|Physical|85|100|15|Tough|3|||yes|yes|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Defense Curl|Normal|Status|—|—|40|Cute|2|||no|yes|no|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Double-Edge|Normal|Physical|120|100|15|Tough|0|||yes|yes|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|DynamicPunch|Fighting|Physical|100|50|5|Cool|2|||no|yes|no|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2|||no|yes|no|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Fire Punch|Fire|Physical|75|100|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Smart|1|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Ice Punch|Ice|Physical|75|100|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Iron Defense|Steel|Status|—|—|15|Tough|2|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Iron Head|Steel|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|2||'''|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Last Resort|Normal|Physical|130|100|5|Cute|0|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Mimic|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0|||yes|yes|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3|||no|yes|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Nightmare|Ghost|Status|—|100|15|Smart|2|||no|no|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0|||no|yes|no|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Signal Beam|Bug|Special|75|100|15|Beauty|0|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3|||no|yes|no|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cool|3|||no|yes|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1|||yes|yes|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2|||no|yes|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2|||no|yes|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|ThunderPunch|Electric|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|2|||no|yes|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|20|Cool|2|||yes|yes|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Trick|Psychic|Status|—|100|10|Smart|0|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Uproar|Normal|Special|50|100|10|Cute|2|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15|Beauty|2||'''|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4|steel|psychic}}

===Side game data===

{{Side game|
type=steel |
ndex=385 |
PinRScatch=yes |
HC=C |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=99.9% |
area=Mt. Moonview |
P1= Wishes can always come true! You mustn't ever give up! |
P2= Oh, no! My health is all the way down to half! |
P3= I'm sorry... I might return to sleep... |
PL= Yes! I leveled up! Your wishes should come true! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=no |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=-12% |
iq=B |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox/0|385|Jirachi|2|Steel|Psychic}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=steel|
type2=psychic|
gen=3|
gender=none|
ndex=385|
name=Jirachi|
animated=1|
}}

==Trivia==
* Jirachi shares similarities with the {{wp|Beanstar}} from ''Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga'', they both can only be awoken when sung to with a voice of purity, and both grant wishes.
* In the anime, it is one of the few Pokémon who can [[Talking Pokémon|speak telepathically]].
* Jirachi and {{p|Manaphy}} have never been given an in-game location. As well, they were both stars in a [[Pokémon movie]] where they bonded with [[Max]] and {{an|May}}, respectively.
**Jirachi stars in the movie in which {{p|Groudon}} made its first movie appearance, while Manaphy is the star Pokémon in a later movie in which {{p|Kyogre}} made its first movie appearance.
* Jirachi's [[Generation III]] sprites show its ''true eye'' opened and blue streamers. However, in its Diamond and Pearl sprites, its ''true eye'' is closed and its streamers are teal instead of blue.
* Jirachi is the fastest {{type2|Steel}} Pokémon, with a base speed of 100.
* Jirachi is the only Pokémon with {{a|Serene Grace}} as its single [[ability]].

===Origin===
Jirachi's design and ability of granting wishes probably refer to the habit of "wishing upon a star", so that the wish will come true. Considering its humanoid appearance and ability to grant wishes, it is also possible that it was inspired by Arabic myths about {{wp|genie}}s, or djinn. In some myths, imprisoned genies would grant wishes to the person who released them. The tags of paper on its head are a reference toward {{wp|Tanabata}}.

====Name origin====
Jirachi gets its name from желать ''zhelatʹ'', which is Russian for "to desire". It could also be from the Japanese word 幸 ''sachi,'' which means wish, happiness, or fortune.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Jirachi
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Jirachi
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 지라치 ''Jirachi''

==Related Articles==
* [[Jirachi (anime)]]

==External links==
*[http://jirachi.yami-yugi.net/ Wish], the fanlisting for Jirachi

==Notes==
{{event Pokémon}}
{{Legendary Pokémon}}
{{Smash Bros.}}
{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Rayquaza | next=Deoxys }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Pokémon that are not part of an evolutionary line]]
[[Category:Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Hoenn Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Genderless Pokémon]]
[[Category:Promotion-only Pokémon]]

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Talk:Distortion World

2009-01-26T10:59:20Z

Uxie legend: /* Distortion World */

For the animated picture of the torn world above Mt. Coronet, where is that from? It says skip in the corner, so I'm guessing a website?--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 04:19, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
:What are you talking about? The picture's neither animated nor says "skip" anywhere.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:26, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

This one here, which is on the article page.

[[Image:Montecorona13jun08.gif]]

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 06:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah... there's nothing there. That image isn't animated, and there's no text in any corner, at least not large enough to be seen. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 07:15, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Animated...drawn...art...I don't care what it is called. On the [[Sinnoh]] page this picture has the word skipped in it.

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 09:05, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
:...well, then, maybe you should've brought it up on ''that'' page or at least said this in the first place. And yes, it's from the website.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 15:36, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
::Probably some kind of opening sequence one can skip. And... animated and drawn are two very, ''very'' different things. Animated indicates that there's at least some motion. That image is quite static. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 17:08, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

== Reverse World?==
Is the Torn World in Pokemon Platinum the same place as the [[Reverse World]] in the Movie or is that a completely different place?
They were both depicted as Giratina's Domain, so are they?
:No. We have no official proof that they are one and the same as the only way to access the Reverse World is to go to Spear PIllar and the Torn World can be accessed everywhere. That, and we still don't have proof so don't jump to conclusions. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''12:50 21 Aug 2008'''''

:According to [[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]] (00:23:17), [[Mugen]] said that Reverse World simply speaking is Distortion World.--[[User:Swampert|Swampert]] 12:40, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

==Locations?==
If a Giratina from Platinum (or any Pokemon obtained in any new location) is traded to an English Diamond and Pearl, where will it say it came from in the memo? Unlike earlier generations, where it was only in English, in which they took the name of the location that it said on the memo in the game it came from (thus if it was hacked, then it could say anything) this generation allows trading across the world, and just says the English equivalent. As Nintendo of America was not working on Platinum during the production of Diamond and Pearl (or maybe Japan didn't even THINK of Platinum back then, so even in Japan, unless they worked it the way they did in Gen. 3, or rewire it like they did for the Berry glitch fix, this problem would crop up), there will BE NO equivalent, (besides, if there were, then hackers would have discovered it like they did with the Johto thing: see [[Pokémon Gold and Silver remakes]]) so unless Nintendo rewires the games like they did for the Berry glitch fix, there's no telling what could happen! [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] 16:01, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
:If they rewire the games, people will be suspicious, unless they do it in Japan for the reason explained in one of the earlier parentheses. OR MAYBE Nintendo of America planned this and made an extra in Shadows of Almia (which notably isn't coming out in America until AFTER Platinum comes out) to fix it like they did in FR/LG for the Berry glitch, but what if someone gets one of those Giratina in a trade on the GTS before that? [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] 16:07, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
::Well, only one way to find out. Porygon-Z, I choose you! Trade me your Origin Forme Giratina as soon as you get it, for my Another Forme Giratina! Then... Origin Forme-ize mine to see if it works and then we'll trade back. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:55, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
:::I used an Action Replay code that I found on a cheat website to get a shiny Spiritomb, and it says that it was caught in Space World. I used to figure that that could be an indication that Nintendo planned another Spaceworld event sometime in the near future, but now I'm starting to think that it may be the English name for the Torn World. Probably not, since that would mean people knew about Platinum long before it was announced, but who knows? I'll try to get a picture of it sometime soon. -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 22:18, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Here: [http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e208/sophia__star/Pokemon%20Screenshots/Summary%20Screens/?action=view&current=DSCN2440.jpg] -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 22:12, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Just recieved a Platinum Giratina from the GTS. In D/P, the location is shown as 'Faraway place'. -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 16:08, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Odd. Which brings me to wonder: what does the Sudowoodo from the Battle Frontier or a Smeargle from Artisan Cave say in RS? Obviously something caught on Route 101 says Route 101 like they do between RS games. But would it say Battle ''Tower''? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:42, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::No. It would say Artisan Cave. In Gen. III, the location names are copied with trades, like I said. So if a Pokemon was hacked to come from, say, "Lala Land," then when it is traded it will say, "Lala Land."
:::::::What are you talking about? If a Pokemon from, say, FR/LG is traded to R/S, the location shows up as 'Met in a trade' because R/S doesn't recognize Kanto location data. For example, the Lugia in this picture, which was traded from XD to LeafGreen: [http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e208/sophia__star/Pokemon%20Screenshots/Summary%20Screens/?action=view&current=DSCN2141.jpg] LeafGreen doesn't recognize Citadark Isle as a valid location, so it uses a location that it knows. The same appears to be true for Gen IV. -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 14:53, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

==Name?==
The issue of Nintendo Official Magazine dated October, calls this the "Ruined World". Should we change this? [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 09:54, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
:"Ruined" is just as accurate, so yes, probably...--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 23:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
::What region is that magazine released in? Either way, this sounds as official as "Mikli Cup". --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:32, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
:::The United Kingdom. (Uh...Mikli Cup...?)--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:00, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Australian magazine pretty much gave away every DP episode up to 100. However they called the Wallace (''Mikuri'') Cup the "Mikli" cup. Likely a poor transliteration of Mikuri by those who have no fricking idea who any of Pokémon's characters are, but still. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:35, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

== Magnetic Zones ==
Someone with Platinum should confirm if Mt. Coronet extends to the Ruined World - by battling and beating Giratina in the Ruined World (albeit not saving of course) with a Nosepass or Magneton which needs at least the Giratina-amount of Exp. to level up. I'm mentioning this on the Spear Pillar talk page as well. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 03:03, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
:Rare Candy works just as well... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:23, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
::Doesn't the entrance to Ruined World lay in [[Turnback Cave]]?--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 04:25, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
:::TTEchidna, didn't think of that. But to Tavisourse, Turnback Cave lets you return to the Ruined World - albeit a new part of it with the Platinum Orb. Giratina's area of the Ruined World is reached from the Spear Pillar. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 04:38, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
::::On second thought, because it's also reachable from Turnback Cave, it's probably not an extension of the Magnetic Zone. However, the game could have two different Ruined World areas programed, since it's a different part of the Ruined World when you go to it by Turnback Cave entrance. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 05:02, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Anyone wanna test it? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:09, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

== Different name? ==

I found this image recently...
It claims the name of the area is really called "the Torn Dungeon"
[http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s181/cds39/skann0002-8.jpg]
... [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 04:23, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm... This may prove difficult. Any release dates mentioned yet? March? Please? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:08, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
::Has anywhere in a Pokémon game been called a "dungeon" properly. I know Cerulean Cave was often called the Uknown Dungeon prior to FireRed and Leaf Green.. So far, we've seen two different possible English names. Ruined World, as I stated above.. now this. In honest, I'd wait until the game sees an English release before moving it again.
::As another note to above. Isn't a dungeon a cold stone place? There is blatantly a sky visible when going through that piece of crazy. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 10:53, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

== Distortion World ==

Someone with the power to, please move this from Ruined World to Distortion World. That's the official English title. Where did this Ruined World business come from anyhow? Seems Nintendo can change its mind at anytime. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 15:55, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

:Circuit City is not a suitable source for the name. Until another source, one which is more reliable, uses the name Distortion World, the article stays where it is. That's why it was protected. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 15:57, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

::I agree. Where did this Ruined World business come from? [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 20:42, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

:::Exactly.Who says that the place is ruined?It's just a change gravity and the laws of Physics.[[User:Uxie legend|Uxie Legend]] 10:59, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

== Why you can walk on walls... ==

Well, Dialga controls the one temporal dimension of this universe, and Palkia controls the three spacial ones... what if Giratina controlled the fourth spacial dimension, and the fact that Lucas/Dawn goes around walking on walls is only an illusion because we can't see/render four-dimensional objects, only a three-dimensional projection of them. A {{wp|tesseract}}'s an object whose sides are all cubes, like a cube's sides are all squares and a square's are all lines. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:35, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
:Bit of an abstract concept don't you think? Little bit more likely that physics there just operate on a different level, such as gravity being directional. In that case, Giratina would ''distort'' reality, which fits in more with it's background info, as well as the potential name from Circuit City. Besides that, there really not a whole lot of evidence for Giratina controling a fifth dimension. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 02:23, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
::It makes sense to me. And Giratina controlling a fourth spatial dimension makes more sense than most other theories I've heard, given how Palkia gets the other three and Dialga the temporal dimension. --[[User:Martonimos|Marton]][[wp:Chanukah|I'm Jewish]][[User talk:Martonimos|imos]] 13:20, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Ruined World? ==
Yeah, I read that this name was in a Nintendo Magazine. But now we have at least three English names for this place (Ruined World, Torn Dungeon and Distortion World). I think we should move the page to the official name we have yet ''Torn World''. I am doubting of this ''Ruined World'', until a very official page or magazine confirms the name. I don't think that we should trust on a magazine ''before'' an official listing. --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]], <sc>[[User talk:Nick.|something to say?]]</sc> 00:09, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
:Distortion World comes from the circuit city page, which was states as unreliable above. Torn World/Dungeon comes from a translation of the Japanese name. Ruined World was used in the official Nintendo magazine in the UK. As a result, Ruined World is the most reliable translation from a Nintendo source so far. The name will likely change with the US Platinum release, which won't take long to gather if Japanese save files {{tt|are compatible|Very likely they are}} with the US version. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 22:10, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

== Dear Sysop... ==
(the section for edits you --[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 17:09, 18 December 2008 (UTC)want the sysops that can edit to make)

Dear Sysop, I would like you to note on the page that while the entrances to this dimension are in Sinnoh, it is actually not part of Sinnoh at all, rather that the areas that the player visits are parallel with Sinnoh. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 16:23, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

==Cynthia?==
The artwork shows cynthia? Does she come to the runined world with you?- ''unsigned comment from [[User:David aipom|David aipom]] ([[User talk:David aipom|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/David aipom|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:Cynthia enters with the player. In fact, the player meets her at Spear Pillar before entering. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 22:18, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

== [[Distortion World]] ==

According to [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Nintendo_announces_English-language_Pok%C3%A9mon_Platinum this page], it's going to be called the Distortion World. Could an admin move it please since it's protected? ←{'''[[User:Berrymaster|Berrymaster]]|[[User_talk:Berrymaster|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Berrymaster|Contrib]]'''}→ 20:38, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== Mt. Coronet ==

I guess it's a silly question, but is the Distortion World considered part of Mt. Coronet by the game? That is, do Magneton and Nosepass evolve if leveled up within? On that note, both sides of the Distortion world would have to be checked: the one you enter while chasing Cyrus, and the one you enter after becoming Champion. --[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 17:09, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

== Edit request ==

I'm requesting an edit. Please put the images other than the infobox one into a gallery. Having them spread around the page shoves the text too much in some places. [[Santa Claus|♥]][[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[wp:Christmas|Merry Christmas!]]) 01:50 12/20/2008

I also request that all the "Another Formes" on this page be changed to Altered Forme, because that is the official name. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 19:54, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Giratina (Pokémon)/Archive 1

2009-01-26T10:52:39Z

Uxie legend: /* Reason behind form change */ new section

== Error? ==

''"Giratina is the second dual-type Pokémon that has weaknesses to both of its own types. The other one is [[Nincada]]."''
"'''''The other one is Nincada'''''" - This is incorrect because Nincada is not weak to [[Bug]] or [[Ground]].
Which Pokemon is actually waek to '''both of its types'''? [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 18:08, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
:None that I know of. The only types that are weak to themselves are ghost and dragon. I can't think of another combination with the same effect. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|ElectAbuzzzz]] 18:19, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Maybe somebody did just make an error... I might as well remove it then. [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 18:37, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
:If anything, I'd've thought it'd be {{p|Shedinja}}. Remember, to be weak to both of your own types means that one of the types could be weak to itself and the other type. The question is... what Pokémon could be weak to both of its own types? It doesn't seem like any of them could be. I mean, technically, {{p|Sableye}} and {{p|Spiritomb}} are weak to both {{t|Dark}} and {{t|Ghost}} on their Ghost-type, but their Dark-type covers both. So yeah, you're right. Until we get another Ghost/Dragon (which I hope is soon), we're not gonna have any Pokémon weak to their type twice. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 05:56, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
:: I'm hoping to see a Psychic/Dark or Psychic/Ghost type Pokémon... think about it... [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 21:45, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
I know this dosen't fit with previous topics, but i'm worried there might be an error in my game. Is giratina supposed to dissapear if you make it faint?
:... uh, yeah. That's what the legendaries do. If you take them out, you just blew your chance and you'd better not have saved. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 15:53, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

== Devil? ==

How is giratina the devil of poke'mon? It just lives on an opposite side of the world. Plus I don't think the developers are aware of the body part thing. It is also irrelevant to the subject.--[[user:arceus fan|arceus fan]] [[image:ArceusDP.png|35px]] 21:42, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
: I agree. If no one objects, I will take it out now.--[[User:Dual|Dual]] 06:50, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
:: Whoever changed it back, don't do it again. Giratina is NOT the Devil Pokemon. Get over it. --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 17:38, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Actually, Giratina lives in am alternate dimension within the same universe (wierd, right?).--[[User:SorakuFett|SorakuFett]] 22:47, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

== Fourth lake of Sinnoh ==

Can we be so sure that Giratina is really part of the [[Dragon trio]]? It makes sense if you think everything through, but I find it interesting that Giratina is found in a cave near the "fourth lake of Sinnoh". Can it be assumed that Giratina has ''some'' association with the [[Lake trio]], or is that simply too much of a stretch? // [[User talk:Szayel Aporro|'''''SzayelAporroGranz''''']][[Image:Ani282MS.gif]] 23:28, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
:Arceus created Dialga/Palkia ''and'' the lake trio. It's not hard to see the link there. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:29, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
also they all have equal base stats just in a different order and the footprints all resemble crowns and it stars in a game along with them and they all rule over different universal planes time, space, and the reverse world but the reverse world could be a reality made by palkia so until they give the official word nobody knows

== H/W eight ==

The Height and Weight of Giratina's two forms are different. Should we place both of the weights and heights in the article (or in List of Articles by Weight or List of Articles by Height)?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 18:39, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
:I think we should put somthing in like this,
Origin Form Height: Blah
Another Form Height: Blah
Origin Form Weight: Blah
Another Form Weight: Blah
(of course replacing blahs with data)(i don't know how to do it)[[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 00:21, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

== Opal trademark ==

I know we've had this conversation already on the Gold/Silver remakes talk page, but does anyone KNOW for certain that Nintendo trademarked the name Pokémon Opal? As far as I know, nobody's had any luck confirming the DuskGold/DawnSilver trademarks, so how do we know this one is for real, too? --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]] 07:17, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
:http://www.pokemonopal.com proves this pretty well. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 07:24, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
::Definitely hard to argue with that. Thanks. [[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]] 23:54, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Couldn't someone have just bought the domain name and have it redirect to Nintendo?--[[User:Ocean2292|Ocean2292]] 22:14, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

According to serbii, it is Pokémon PLatium, and Grantia is the Verson Mascot, I don't like where this is going, can someone block the pages: GRantinia, SHaymin, Regigiggas, Verson Mascot and anything to do with this Pokémon Platium thing, I don't want false rumors Spreading. I guess I'll put a link: http://serebii.net/index2.shtml --[[User:Quick Man|Quick Man]] 14:24, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

: Platinum? That's a surprise, since that has nohing to do with a Diamond or a Pearl. Then again, Crystal didn't match Gold and silver, so... [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 14:32, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

:: Platinum actually does make some sense, though. Platinum in Japanese can be プラティナム ''puratinamu'', or more commonly, プラチナ ''purachina'' (keep in mind ''chi'' and ''ti'' are essentially interchangeable, at least prounounciation/romanization wise). Now, both words contain ''ratina'', just like ギラティナ ''Giratina''. Pu'''ratina'''mu/Pu'''ratina''', Gi'''ratina'''... Makes sense to me, anyway. Maybe even more than ''girasol''. Either way, though, Platinum is just a rumor for now. The only problem is that http://www.pokemonplatinum.com doesn't ridirect to Nintendo like http://www.pokemonopal.com does, although I'm sure that will change if the rumors are true. We'll see what happens in the next CoroCoro... [[User:Homerowed|Homerowed]] 05:23, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

== !protectnao ==

Okay, with this ''unconfirmed'' Pokémon Platinum b/s being added to the page (Along with random "e"s added to everything), I request protection. <s>Else, I'll have to be adding my own fake stuff such as ''Lisae Franke Forme'' and the like. *runs*</s> [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|☆]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 17:03, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
: The "random "e"s" are being added because that's how the Official stuff for the 11th movie names the forms of Giratina; if they use "Origine" and "Forme", ''that's because it's supposed to be like that'' and we're not to question it. Otherwise we would use "Tears for Fears" instead of "Tears For Fears!", for example. - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 17:51, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
http://www.filb.de/content/scans/corocoro/2008-04/2.jpg
See it? '''ORIGINE FORME''', '''ANOTHER FORME'''. - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 17:51, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
:Okay, yeah. This is getting out of hand. Protect. [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|☆]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 17:55, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Protected, but the main reason actually WASN'T the excess E's. It was some bull**** unconfirmed report about a tie-in of its name to platnium based on unconfirmed rumors of the third to Diamond and Pearl being a Platnium (the chances of that being true are slim to none). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:03, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
:Darling, they're all possibilities! I bet you weren't there when the name was conceived. - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 18:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
::Eh, I just hope they don't keep those stupid E's in English. Otherwise we'll have Deoxys Normale Forme, Attacke Forme, Defence Forme, and Speede Forme. Yes, Defence with a C. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:25, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

:: Don't make me start the "sitting on Defence" jokes. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:49, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Oh? You have a problem with English spelling TTE? [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]]
Yeah, we really have to get rid of the extra e's. This is english after all. [[User:Noname|Noname]]
:Respectful disagreement. The [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/platinum/02.html Platinum website] uses "forme" as well, although it's reverted to "origin". Surely you've seen places that jokingly spell their names "ye olde shoppe," or something similar. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 21:17, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
::But we don't know if NOA will go for the fake-Medieval feel. Until we get English confirmation, we should follow the precedent of Deoxys and use modern English. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 21:20, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:::All right, that makes sense. But I think we should definitely at least mention the 'Forme' stuff in the trivia sections of this page and others it's relevant to. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 21:31, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Didn't anyone notice that this magazine used Shaymin's U.S. name in it? Wonder why... --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 07:46, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::I'm trying to understand why people are having such a hard time accepting an official spelling. If the English game gets rid of the "ye olde" then we'll get rid of it then, but by "proper English" rationale we should be calling them "crabby" and "dugong". It's a stylized spelling like any ''Pokémon'' name.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:09, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

::::::I'm afraid there doesn't seem to be any solving this civilly or simply through discussion. Therefore, I grudgingly <s>announce</s> propose a poll. That's right, a poll. I'm not going to really get into this aside from offering my opinion, and of course voting, but this seems to be a popular topic for discussion, so this page should see a lot of action in the next few hours/days. I'll add the poll momentarily to the bottom of the page. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:32, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Oh boy. Check Deoxys on the official American Pokedex: http://www.pokemon.com/Pokedex/flash.asp I'm afraid that That solves the question. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 01:36, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

::::::::Good. There we go, folks. Discussion closed. Now, could somebody please protect this? I see no reason to encourage certain users by allowing them to continue ignoring the facts. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:42, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Shoot. That means we have to go around and edit all the {{p|Deoxys}} stuff so it says "forme," too. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:51, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Does Uraptu work for Pokemon.com or something? Unless Deoxys is somehow involved in movie 11, I see no reason why they've done that. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 10:04, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:My guess is because two common words like "Another" and "Form" are difficult to trademark together. It's why Hasbro released a toy called "Battle Ravage," because it was too hard to get a trademark on just {{wp|Ravage (Transformers)|Ravage}}, since it's such a common word. So "Another Forme," "Sky Forme," and "Defense Forme" are easier to trademark than they would be if they were spelled correctly. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 19:07, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:: So "Deoxys Normal Form" would be harder to trademark than "Deoxys Normal Forme"? "Deoxys" itself aint exactly a dictionary word.

:: Besides, wouldn't those four ''already'' be trademarked by now? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 21:16, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Maybe, maybe not. Like I said, it was only a guess. But "Deoxys" almost certainly wouldn't be part of the trademark. The bulbanews article mentioned that "Land form" and "Sky form" (or, as it now almost surely is, "Land Forme" and "Sky Forme") were trademarked without any Pokémon name, which is why we have to guess as to who it is. Origin and Another Formes were similarly free-floating trademarks, without "Giratina" anywhere in the title.
:::ANYWAY, it doesn't matter now. The E is in officially. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 22:06, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Quick thought: Has anybody checked the Japanese site's Pokedex lately? I wonder if the Japnese names for Deoxys's forms have changed as well... [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 00:12, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::Er, there's no English on the Japanese Pokédex.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:49, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::I think he was asking about the Japanese names themselves. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 01:42, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::...oh. He actually says that outright. Ahahaha. They use the obvious katakana spellings of "Normal," "Attack," "Defense," and "Speed," and the same katakana for "form(e)" as Giratina's (フォルム ''forumu'').--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:43, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::: So if that's their version, what's everyone else using as "form" (Burmy etc)? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 10:51, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

::Is there a specific reason why "Forme" was just recently changed to "Form"? I was under the impression that the former was the official spelling. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 23:53, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

== Name Origin ==

To Cassius335: How the hell did you get Guillotine,Giraffe from Giratina?? Girasol and platina are the only words to make Giratina. [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 11:39, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

THANK YOU FORCE FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:You know, if it was based on that word, then it should learn the [[Guillotine (move)|move]]...Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:45 16 May 2008'''''

I think we have a clear verdict here.[[User:Big Johnno|Pokémon Master]] 19:47 16 May 2008
:Hmm, Guillotine, Giratina. G<s>u</s>i'''ra'''<s>llo</s>tin<s>e</s>'''a'''. Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:50 16 May 2008'''''

:: Hmmmmm. I do see how guillotine is part of the name, But why giraffe? [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 11:59, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
But why would Game Freak go through so much trouble of breaking down Guillotine and adding an 'a' to the end when the mascots of Diamond and Pearl are derived from there respective jewel, so obviously they would do similar with the third mascot hence Girasol and Platinum being in Giratina's name.[[User:Big Johnno|Pokémon Master]] 20:04 16 May 2008
: Yes, we get the idea, I agree, You agree, everyone agrees, Damnit! [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 12:07, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
OK!I'm just making a point so that Cassius335 sees that he or she doesn't have to be perfect and that people get it wrong sometimes.[[User:Big Johnno|Pokémon Master]] 20:09 16 May 2008

Girasol (hence the 'gira' part) + Platina (hence the 'tina' part) = Giratina!
:And do sign off, <s>b@$+@rd</s>...{{u|Tina}} could be also an origin, according to you. Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:54 16 May 2008'''''

Sorry I forget sometimes.[[User:Big Johnno|Pokémon Master]] 19:56 16 May 2008
:You attacked me personally. Now tell me, who's better at wikicode? TTE! Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''12:11 16 May 2008'''''
:: You two knock it off! That is not the reason Bulbapedia is here for. [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 12:14, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

No Comment.[[User:Big Johnno|Big Johnno]] 20:16 16 May 2008

So it's named after a Jewel and a Metal? I'm leaning more towards '''Gira'''ffe, myself (look at the shape of Another Form).

And frankly "Don't argue with me because I just figured it out" did not inspire confidence. Bulbapedia needs facts, not opinions.

Best to leave the four as was until someone an actually provide a proper source. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:39, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

I think this should be Protected due to the edits....... [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 09:46, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Next person to revert will be shot. Stop it, and we'll have a discussion here about it.
Personally I agree with Big Johnno, Giraffe has no place there. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 10:11, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh? Where are the Girasols,then? All I'm asking for is something to back-up what otherwise is just Big Johnno's opinion, not a fact. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 21:18, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:'''Gira'''sol and Pla'''tina''' [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 23:08, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
::OBVIOUSLY GIRATINA'S NAME ORIGIN IS FROM ME AND GIRASOL, BECAUSE I'M AWESOME.
::...I'm sorry. I needed to say something. [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|☆]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 23:10, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
::: Did anyone force you to? --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 23:11, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
::::She meant it as a way of need to acknowledge herself in the discussion•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[:Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]]''' 23:14, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::Well yeah and my inner troll told me to do so anyway. lol. Besides. It was asking for it. [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|☆]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 23:15, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::Dang you must be ugly•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[:Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]]''' 23:16, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Girasol doesn't seem to fit. It did when we thought DPv3 would be called Opal, but now that it's being called Platinum, I doubt it. Giraffe is just way out of left field. The last time I checked, giraffes didn't have monstrous claws running up and down their necks. Guillotine... maybe, since Giratina seems to be associated with death. But like Optimus35 said, why doesn't it learn the move, then?
:::::::Also: Why hasn't this been protected yet? --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 23:26, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::: '''Gira'''sol...... --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 07:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Guillotine also would not fit, unless you are grasping at straws. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 08:29, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::If you're speaking in strict phonetic terms, then no. Although there is the whole R vs. L thing in Japanese... anyway, I'm thinking more along the lines of fitting thematically. Girasol doesn't work, unless they were planning to call it Opal and changed it to Platinum at the last minute to throw off everyone who had figured it out (doubtful if the -tina part really comes from Platina). And Guillotine does fit ''sort of'', but not quite as well as I'd like. Anyway, I do think Big Johnno's ideas for this have more grounding than Cassius's. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 08:57, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::: Big Johnno doesn't ''have'' any grounding. He just gave us his opinion with nothing to back it up. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]]

Ooo girare actually suits Giratina pretty good I mean like theres that saying the dead wander the earth forever or something simliar and Giratina is an undead Pokémon
: Glinn Mgraw said leave it alone--[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 10:53, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
: That means YOU too Big Johnno... [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 10:59, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:: Yes, but he's saying "leave it alone" ''after'' siding with Big Johnno and eliminating two. I say leave all possibilities in play until we can eliminate them with facts. "Girare" is an interesting one though. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:02, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

::Pulling this out of the text wall...

"Giraffe is just way out of left field. The last time I checked, giraffes didn't have monstrous claws running up and down their necks. Guillotine... maybe, since Giratina seems to be associated with death. But like Optimus35 said, why doesn't it learn the move, then?"

:: Giraffe's aren't supposed to have a second face on their tails either, and yet we have Girafarig. As for why Giratina doesn't learn Guillotine... no idea. Maybe the Japanese didn't make the connection. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:09, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Maybe it's because Giratina doesn't come from Guillotine? SHOCK HORROR. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 11:29, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:::: Giratina phonetically is (roughly) Gir-ah-teen-ah. Knock off the second 'ah' and what do you get?

:::: Not saying anything for definite though. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::Mind if I jump in here? No? Tough. Cassius dude, tell me something, because I'm totally confused here - how the ''hell'' does Giratina resemble, or even RELATE to, a freaking guillotine?! Or a giraffe?! It's blatantly obvious to even the dumbest of people that Giratina comes from ''gira''sol and pla''tina''. Go and pick on some other Pokémon. [[User:Double Dash|Cipher]] 13:27, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

::::: Try reading the page once in a while. As has already been pointed out, Girasol doesn't work any more (some people can't accept that the third game is '''not''' Pokémon Opal). Giraffe (I'm guessing) is because Giratina's a four-legged long necked creature (ok, six-legged, but still...). Guillotine as I mentioned ''in the post above yours'' is a phonetic soundalike.

::::: Neither of these are my theories, I'm just trying to stop people from jumping to conclusions without a shred of proof. Which, last I checked, we're not supposed to do. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 16:45, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yet you're doing the same thing. These ideas may not be yours, but your constantly re-adding them is the same as what Big Johnno's doing. I suggest we just put down ''all'' the ideas we've had so far and figure this out without an edit war going on. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 21:31, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

::::::: Um... he's taking way, I'm restoring them. That's not quite the same thing.

::::::: And what's currently on the page ''is'' all of the idea's so far. That was kind of the point. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 21:46, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Aren't '''all''' name origins of Pokémon speculation and opinion? As far as I know, Nintendo has '''never''' came out and said, "This is where we got the name." And, while most are obvious, some are not. Just look at that section on {{P|Corphish}}. It's highly doubtful that its name comes from an obscure fishing term from the 1600s, but it's still mentioned on the page. I see no harm in keeping all possibilities, no matter how unlikely. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 22:24, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:You must draw a line in the sand at some point. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 07:37, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
::Did anyone mention girasol or something like that? Because it says girasol along with what you guys said earlier. Oh, and by the way? DEFINITELY NOT GIRAFFE. I'm sorry, it just doesn't make any sense at all. Really, it doesn't. Really. [[User:ZanderX|Zander]] 06:51, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

== Origin Forme Picture ==

Wouldn't it make more sense to have Giratina's origin forme art from Platinum, then the art from the anime?

Deoxys uses all of his Sugimori art on his page, and none of the other Pokémon have their anime art on their pages (besides screenshots).

So why was the other art gotten rid of from the page? [[User:Pokemega32|Pokemega32]] 19:01, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
: There's no point having two pictures of the same thing. --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 23:16, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
::He was asking why we got rid of the Sugimori art and kept the anime art instead of the other way around, not why we didn't keep both. At any rate, I changed it after seeing his comment, so now we have the Sugimori art alone. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 23:28, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:::where did we get the shiny origine sprite? '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 17:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Someone recoloured the normal sprite. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:40, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::and so it'll be changed again when the official sprite is released i presume. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 17:46, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::If there's any real difference. Origin Forme Giratina has the same colors as Another Forme Giratina, so why would the shiny ones differ? It's the same as Deoxys. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:44, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Because the real-deal is always superior in quality to the recolor.--[[User:Xparasite9|Xparasite9]] 03:54, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

== Protection request ==

A lot of people have making changes and undoing changes. I say we protect it for a while. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:43, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:You freakin want everything protected. But for this article, yea, me too•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 21:19, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

== Shiny is near-perfect negative? ==

The article says that the shiny sprite is a near-perfect negative of the normal sprite.
I ask you, does the following look like the statement is true? the only thing that matches up are the red (blue) bands and wing-horns.
 
[[{{ns:6}}:Not-reverse-colors.PNG|Shiny Giratina is not a negative]]--[[User:Xparasite9|Xparasite9]] 03:47, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
:I think what was really meant was "nearly opposite in color", regular has gold, shiny has silver, regular has silver, shiny has gold, regular has red, shiny has blue. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:00, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

== Lack of Land/Lowered Level ==

the lowered level seems to make sense because of the fact that he had just entered the dimension, which would theoretically weaken him. the lack of land seems to be either giratina floating in the air, a reflection of the fact that there is no land in the reverse world, or that he is still in the teleportation rift.

[[User:Arutoa|Arutoa]] 21:12, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

== Tutor Moves ==

is there a platinum standard template that could be used for Giratina's tutored move, Draco Meteor?
[[User:Meman140|meman140]] 01:29, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:Yes. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:32, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:Done and done. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:01, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. [[User:Meman140|meman140]] 00:44, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

== Art in the infobox ==

I know with Deoxys we do the "standard forme" thing... but we have Wormadam with all three of her coats, same with Burmy, and Shellos and Gastrodon in both West and East Sea variations. I know that's how the Sugimori art came, but why the heck not combine the images into one, then put it in the infobox? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:42, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

== Sprites ==

Doesn't Giratina have 3 Platinum sprites? 2 Origin and 1 Another. How will you place that? tc26 23:37, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
:The game isn't even out yet!~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 23:43, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::Screenshots!! tc26 23:44, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
:::I know but we're still thinking!~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 23:45, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
:::And they may be more~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 23:46, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Well most likely there's only 1 Another and 1 Origin for Platinum, The Platinum Origin is likely a moving image~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 23:47, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

The new shiny sprite is all wrong. One of its eyes is still red, and the body color wasn't even changed. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 05:08, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
::Sorry about the recloration. I be someone would come along and fix it eventually if I don't have the time to. There is 1 another and 1 origin in platinum but 1 orign and 2 another in DP AND Platinum.--[[User:Taviource|Tavis]][[User talk:Taviource|ource]] 05:47, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
::Oh! and, tc26, could you help buy making a transparent background for Giratina Origine forme? I have no idea how to do it. Thanks and sorry if I troubled you.--[[User:Taviource|Tavis]][[User talk:Taviource|ource]] 05:55, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Yeah, later. i'm doing some things right now. I'll just make a new one since that one has several errors in coloring.tc26 06:18, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
I think that it have to take the three sprites of Platinum, as the sprites of Deoxys in D/P --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]] 19:38, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
::Nevermind about the transparent background. I managed to do that this morning. But we still need to fix the shiny sprite.--[[User:Taviource|Tavis]][[User talk:Taviource|ource]] 21:11, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
::I already fixed it only the eye is a problem--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 21:16, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Are you serious? The forehead was silver. Some parts were red! The other eye was red! The shading wasn't exactly right. I uploaded my own now.tc26 11:23, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
http://www.serebii.net/platinum/pokemon/487-a.png
Where would this go in the sprite box? This is his older form in Platinum. [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 18:39, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
::Hey! That's what I asked yesterday! But apparently, they don't have table for both formes yet.--[[User:Taviource|Tavis]][[User talk:Taviource|ource]] 21:03, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

:Let me try to add tables for ''both'' forms--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 22:31, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

::Are we sure that's just not a new second frame of animation for the sprite? All D/P sprites have two, but only the static image is used. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:55, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
:::I tried adding the tables, but it wouldn't work. You'll have to make a new template for it. Try asking Shinigpikablu for help. He'll know what to do.--[[User:Taviource|Tavis]][[User talk:Taviource|ource]] 23:15, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== Origin Shiny ==

Isn't that Shiny Origin Forme sprite a fan-colored estimation? Can someone rip and upload the ACTUAL Origin Forme Shiny Sprite, as there will certainly be some colour differences? I see Shiny Rotom Forms are already uploaded, so Shiny Origin Giratina wouldn't be a problem, would it? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 18:28, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
:The official sprite is there now. [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']] 23:38, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

== Pokédex ==

Well, I got the Platinum Pokédex entry, but I don't know how to read Hiragana:

あぱれものゆえおいだされたがわぶれたせかいといねれるばしょでしずかにもとのせかいをみていた.

So anyone can translate it? '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 04:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
::No one is on Bulbapdia at this moment...and the above sentece probably has an error, for it doesn't make any sense.--[[User:Tavisource|☆Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 04:19, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
:::It says something like, "Oh, Paremono Oidasa is just why I am not Bureta seka nereru." And then something about chanigng into origine form when...something...something.--[[User:Tavisource|☆Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 04:26, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
::::No. I'm sure it doesn't have any errors. But anyways... I think it's better to wait till we have an official translation... '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 04:56, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Okay no thanks Babelfish. And no thanks typos on that Japanese right there. ("あ'''ば'''れものゆえおいだされたがやぶれたせかいとい'''わ'''れるばしょでしずかにもとのせかいをみていた。")
:::::Anyway, here's what I was able to come up with. I'd like someone to check it first because I feel a bit iffy about it, but, uh...who reads Japanese here besides me? Zhen? And waiting for the official translation is wise...anyway, the translation. "'''Because of its violent behavior, it was driven out into the Torn World, from where it silently gazes upon our world.'''"--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:01, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::If we're to use the Japanese translations we should make sure we can tell they're just translations and not the official US text when Pt comes out here. Put a <code><nowiki>Ja</nowiki></code> in there. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:35, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I heard the translation was "'''Although it is banished for being a tyrannian creature, it quietly watches our world from a place called the Torn World.'''" [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']] 23:32, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Just wait until the game comes out. Online Japanese translators are so full of mistakes. Ask the M3 translation. [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 23:41, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::::It's translating from Japanese text. Obviously wording is going to differ between translations, m190049.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:10, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

I used the Google translator and got "OIDASA PAREMONO is why I was NERERU BURETA place in the world and is based in the world peacefully and was expected." --[[user:Baby G|Baby G]] ([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]]) 21:59, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:Never trust a Google Translator... At least, when translating more than a single word. [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 20:13, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

== Capture video ==

It comes in from the top in that video... do they ''all'' do that, or just Giratina? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:43, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
:Not only that... the player gets teleported to Turnback Cave after battling Giratina. I wonder what's inside there this time? '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 05:57, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
::A portal back to the Torn World. However only a small area is available. In there is the Platinum Orb, and literally nothing else.[[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']] 23:36, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
:::So can you ever go back to the Torn World afterward? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:14, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::::You can never go back to the giant maze area you went through when you first entered the torn world from the events at the Spear Pillar. However, from Turnback Cave, you can go back to that smaller area, where the Platinum Orb is. After you get that... There is nothing else there. [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 21:53, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Huh? But the place where the Platinum orb is looks like the area just before battling Giratina, plus an item ball. Is it really just that small area and nothing else? Poo. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:09, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::In that case, imma gonna explore that place fully before exiting!
:::::And think how much a Walk Through Walls code would screw up in the torn world with all those sideways platforms and stuff...'''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 12:03, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

==Behavior==
Shouldn't we add Giratina is apparently very violent in behavior and protective of its home?[[User:Shadow1337|Shadow1337]] 23:24, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
:The Pokédex in Platinum describes Giratina with a word to the effect of "violent" or "tyrannical", so I'd say yes.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:26, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah it attacked Dialgia cause of the pollution. [[User:ArceusEX]]

== Animated sprite? ==

Well, I don't remember where, but... Is it ok if we update the sprites? I mean because someone said that Crystal and Emerald have their own set of animated sprites, and PNG animations doesn't look bad: [[Image:MGiratina.png]] '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 04:37, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

== Origin Forme trigger ==

I says Ruined world but wouldn't Platinum orb be better since you almost never get to go to the Ruined world after you catch it.--[[User:MisterE13|MisterE13]] 15:58, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
:What? That doesn't make sense to me... [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 18:33, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
::I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure that, yes, when you first go to the ruined world, Giratina is in the Origin Forme but, after that, you can only go back to a small portion of said world and find the Pltinum Orb which allows Giratina to go Origin in the normal world to. Currently, the evobox says that the "evolution" trigger is Pokémon world (Another) and Ruined world (Origin) since that's really just during the event, I think it should say Platinum orb or both but am asking for opinions.--[[User:MisterE13|MisterE13]] 04:25, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

== Giratina=Palkia+Dialga ==

You should notice that Giratina is the pokemon of dimensions. Dialga and Plakia are the pokemon of time and space. Dimesions are made up of time and space, so wouldn't that make Giratina have as much power over the universe as Plkia and Dialga combined?--[[User:SorakuFett|SorakuFett]] 22:53, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
:Who said Giratina is the "Pokémon of dimensions"?--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 23:25, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
::[[Legendary_Pokémon#Legendary_dragons]]. I disagree, but it's there. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 23:55, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Your logic is not flawed, but I think its just worded wierd on that page. Not neccesarily dimensions[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::::Okay, what I meant was, "who ''officially'' said Giratina is the Pokémon of dimensions?" I'm not going to trust a page ''we'' made on good faith.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 19:58, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::No one will ever say that, because it's ridiculous. Only a 10 year old noob cannot understand that Time and Space are Dimensions. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 14:46, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Each demension has it's own time and it's own specific characteristics. Even if it was a mirror dimension, they are different: attitudes of beings, the way things work (government, physics, mechanics), and even Nature itself could be different. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:27, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

== Hades ==
I noticed something, wouldn't Giratina be similar to the greek god Hades? After all, he is basically the pokemon lord of the dead, guards a world in which no one wants to go, and possibly has something against the other rulers of reality.[[User:Hades666|--[[User:Hades666|Hades666]] ''([[User talk:Hades666|tAlk]])'']] 14:17, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
:Wait, what? Hades doesn't have anything against anybody. Unless you're talking about the Disney movie that enraged the nation of Greece with its monstrous inaccuracy?--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 14:56, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
::Actually Hades was against Zeus, but so were half of the other Gods...[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 14:59, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Giratina is the lord of the dead? Really? Source, por favor. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 15:01, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Two things 1.Giratina is ''most likely'' lord of the dead due to being the only ghost type legendary and residing in a cave filled with ghosts or a spiritual dimension 2. Hades hated the other greek gods because while they got Mt. Olympous with its huge palace and lavish furnishings, while Hades had to spend almost all of his time in the dark, dank, underworld.[[User:Hades666|Hades666]] 16:02, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
:::You just aren't convincing me that Giratina's the lord of the dead. So he live in a different world. So what? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 16:06, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Alright, so I'm not convincing you. Well that's okay, he doesn't have to be, he just has to be similar enough to at least seem based off of Hades.[[User:Hades666|Hades666]] 17:31, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Well, still not convincing. (1) Hades indiscriminately hating all the other gods was something made up for the Disney movie. DCM is closer to correct, but that's because in the myths Zeus is...well, an overbearing asshole. (2) A warped and ''completely empty'' world ≠ world of the dead.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:47, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Comparing Giratina to Hades is an opinion. Opinions are not fact. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 23:05, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::Oh and comparing him to a basilisk ''isn't''?! Oh and, by the way, although the disney movie ''did'' exagerate Hades's dislike of the other gods, he does dislike them in the actual greek myths, purely because they forced him to stay in the underworld.[[User:Hades666|Hades666]] 02:42, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Yeah, but they all hate each other. Poseiden hates Athena, The Goddess of Earth Hates hades.......i could go on[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
Where is there anything about Giratina hating Palkia, Dialga, and the others? It only attacked Dialga because of the pollution that had entered the other dimension because of the fight between the two Dragons. And in the next movie, Giratina is going to be fighting both of them out of anger, not hate. What would you do if somebody was destroying your world? Sit there? [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 18:12, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Well, I tried.[[User:Hades666|Hades666]] 13:46, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm not saying you didn't but we can only put things in that everyone agrees with. Otherwise, some people would put things like "Mew is similar to Kirby because they're both pink", "Snorlax is like *insert celebrity's name here* dog, because they're both fat", stuff like that. Sorry if I came across harder than I meant to. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 20:17, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
::By the way, in response to that "what would I do?" rhetorical question, no, I wouldn't sit there, I would get in between them and tell them "STOP FIGHTING OR I WILL BEAT THE $#!% OUT OF YOU!".[[User:Hades666|Hades666]] 17:19, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Fun. They wouldn't listen to you, and this is for the forums. If you really care enough, take it there, because I'm finished with this. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 19:02, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

== Origin ==

As i knew Giratina has been originate in our {{wp|Bakunawa}}
why did you edit it why --[[User:Bakunawa|Bakunawa]] 07:07, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

== Backbone ==

Giratina,How he appeared in {{g|Platinum}}.His Orgin form is his true form.Because he changed when he enter the Pokémon World.He begane to changed to Altered form.Thats what I think.[[User:DAWN FAN|Dawn's No.1 Fan,]] 17:45, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:Eh? Origin forme could be his real one, could not be. I dont think thats a confirmation.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::My impression of the name "origin forme" meant that it was the 'natural' style, as opposed to the "altered forme." But that's just the English translation, I don't know the spirit of the Japanese... -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 17:50, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:::And of course I am assuming that Origin Forme can be used outside of the Distorted world, meaning it can take both formes.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 18:06, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:::"Spirit" of the Japanese? What do you mean? Just in case you mean the original Japanese names, they're the English words "origin" and "another."--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:00, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

== One-of-a-kind ==
According to this page, Giratina is one-of-a-kind, and {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}} aren't? Any inconsistencies?[[User:Hades666|Hades666]] 15:40, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
:This just needs fixing, as Dialga and Palkia are too. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 18:59, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

==It's colors==

In the article,should it be stated that the main colors on the shiny version are Blue(Crystal),Gold and Silver? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 02:46, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
:I think I know what you're asking about, but we already decided for the GSDS page not to put anything about that. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 05:03, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

== Reason behind form change ==

I just added that the change in form happens because of a change in gravitational intensity.(look at the Distortion World!)
I got this information from Pokémon.com's official Website for Giratina and the Sky Warrior.

Giratina (Pokémon)

2009-01-26T10:48:14Z

Uxie legend: /* Physiology */

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name=Giratina |
jname=ギラティナ |
tmname=Giratina |
image=Giratinaformes.png |
caption=Artwork of Altered Forme (left) from Diamond and Pearl Artwork of Origin Forme (right) from Platinum |
size=300px|
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ndex=487 |
sdex=210 |
typen=2 |
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type2=Dragon |
species=Renegade |
forme=2|
forme1=Altered Forme |
forme2=Origin Forme |
height-ftin=14′09″ |
height-m=4.5 |
height-ftin2=22′08" |
height-m2=6.9 |
weight-lbs=1653.5 |
weight-kg=750.0 |
weight-lbs2=1433.0 |
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abilityn=alt |
ability1=Pressure |
ability2=Levitate |
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hatchsteps=30,720 |
effortyield=3 HP |
expyield=220 |
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color=Black |
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'''Giratina''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ギラティナ''' ''Giratina'') is a dual-type {{2t|Ghost|Dragon}} [[legendary Pokémon]].

It is not known to evolve into or from any other Pokémon. However, it can change form.

Giratina is the [[version mascot]] of {{game|Platinum}}.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
As first revealed by Japan's CoroCoro Magazine, Giratina has two forms. The first (Altered Forme) is the form that appeared in [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions]]. In this form, Giratina is has a large, gray, centipede-like body with six short legs. Its legs have gold claws and gold bands on them. It has a tail and a thick black stripe running vertically along the front of its body. There is a series of red horizontal stripes running across the large black one. Three gold half-rings circle the back half of Giratina's neck at the same points that three of the red stripes are at on its front, resembling a ribcage. On its back are two large, black wings that are decorated with red, conical objects that also could be claws.The wings seem oddly out of place, due to the fact that Giratina seems far too heavy to fly effectively. The wings also seem to be ghostly, as it can change shape as if it was made of a liquid. Giratina's head and eyes resemble those of {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}}, causing many to theorize that it is related to the two. This assumption is confirmed in Pokémon Platinum. Giratina's {{shiny2}} form is nearly opposite in color compared to the original. The colors of the shiny Origin Forme is the same as the Altered Forme's except for the wings which appear to be a dark shade of brown.

The second is a new Origin Forme which made its debut in ''[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''; it uses this form when traveling through dimensions
other than ours,such as the Distortion World.The form-altering is triggered by a change of gravity.This form is more serpentine than Giratina's Altered Forme. The Origin Forme of Giratina has six black streamers on its back that each have a red spike at the end. Its mouth is hidden by the head plates, which swing open sideways when the mouth is opening. Giratina's legs have been reduced to spike-like protrusions. There are four more golden spikes near the edge of the tail. This version of Giratina also appears in {{game|Platinum}}.
 

====Gender differences====
Giratina is genderless.

====Special abilities====
As to be expected with other {{type2|Ghost}} Pokémon, Giratina is capable of using Ghost, {{t|Dark}}, {{t|Psychic}} and {{t|Electric}}al attacks. Unlike other {{t|Dragon}} Pokémon, Giratina lacks the ability to wield {{t|Ice}}- and {{type2|Fire}} attacks (save for {{m|Will-O-Wisp}}, which most Ghost-types learn anyway). Giratina is one out of seven Pokémon that is capable of using {{m|Aura Sphere}}. Since Giratina is a "true" Dragon Pokémon, it is also capable of using {{m|Draco Meteor}}.

In Platinum, Giratina can transform to its Origin Forme by equipping the Platinum Orb. If the orb is unequipped in battle, it goes back to Altered Forme. The Origin Forme has higher offensive stats while the Altered Forme has higher defenses. Since Giratina's Origin Forme (and the Platinum Orb, for that matter) is exclusive to Platinum, when it is traded it will revert back to its Altered Forme, and the Platinum Orb it was holding goes back into the Bag.

Giratina is able to control dimensions besides those of time and space.

Giratina is the [[Signature move|only known Pokémon]] that learns {{m|Shadow Force}}.

===Behavior===
Judging by the events in Pokémon Platinum and [[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]], its portrayal in [[Sinnoh myths|ancient folklore]], and its Platinum Pokédex entry, it's assumed that Giratina is a highly aggressive Pokémon that is very protective of [[Distortion World|its home]].

===Habitat===
Like {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}}, Giratina is a one-of-a-kind Pokémon due to its "legendary" status. Legends claim that Giratina appears in cemeteries and that this Pokémon supposedly lives in the spirit world, on the reverse side of this one.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:Giratina Movie11.JPG|thumb|right|210px|Giratina's Altered Forme in a preview for ''[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''.]]
{{an|Giratina}} made its anime debut in ''[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''. In the movie, Giratina lures {{an|Dialga}} into the Reverse World in order to exact revenge against the Temporal Pokémon for causing damage to the Reverse World. [[Zero]] also attempts to copy Giratina's powers in order to take control over the Reverse World. Throughout the movie, Giratina takes on its Origin Forme whenever it is in the Reverse World, and its Altered Forme whenever it is in the Real World.

It will make another appearance in the [[To the Conquering of Space-Time|twelfth movie]] alongside {{an|Dialga}} and {{an|Palkia}}.
 

==In the manga==

==In the TCG==
{{main|Giratina (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
* [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2]]: Giratina is the guardian of the [[Seven Treasures|Rock Horn]].

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=ghost
|type2=dragon
|gen=4
|diamonddex= A Pokémon that is said to live in [[Distortion World|a world on the reverse side of ours]]. It appears in an ancient cemetery.
|pearldex= A Pokémon that is said to live in a world on the reverse side of ours. It appears in an ancient cemetery.
|platinumdex= {{tt|JP|Unofficial translation of the Japanese entry}} Because of its violent behavior, it was driven out into the [[Distortion World]], from where it silently gazes upon our world.
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=ghost |
type2=dragon |
gen=4 |
dprarity=One |
dparea=[[Turnback Cave]] |
ptrarity=One |
ptarea=[[Distortion World]]|
}}
====In side games====
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{ghost color}};"
! Game
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (Time and Darkness)]]
| [[World Abyss]] (30F)
|}

===Base stats===
====Altered Forme====
[[Image:ArtGiratina.png|left|130px]]{{BaseStats|
type=ghost |
type2=dragon |
HP=150 |
Attack=100 |
Defense=120 |
SpAtk=100 |
SpDef=120 |
Speed=90 }}

====Origin Forme====
[[Image:GiratinaOriginForme.png|left|125px|Origin Forme]]{{BaseStats|
type=ghost |
type2=dragon |
HP=150 |
Attack=120 |
Defense=100 |
SpAtk=120 |
SpDef=100 |
Speed=90 }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=ghost|
type2=dragon|
Normal= 0 |
Fighting=0 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 50 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 200 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=50 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 200 |
Dark= 200 |

notes = yes |
ghost = yes|
newnormal = 1|
newfighting=1|
levitate=maybe}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|Ghost|Dragon|4|4|Giratina}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Scary Face|Normal|Status|—|90|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|DragonBreath|Dragon|Special|60|100|20|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|10|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|60|100|5|Smart|0||'''}}
{{mlentry4|20|AncientPower|Rock|Special|60|100|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|30|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|80|100|15|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|40|Shadow Force|Ghost|Physical|120|100|5|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|50|Heal Block|Psychic|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|60|Earth Power|Ground|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|70|Slash|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|80|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15|Cute|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|90|Aura Sphere|Fighting|Special|90|—|20|Beauty|2}}
{{movelist/note|4|Ghost|Dragon}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|ghost|dragon|4|4|Giratina}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM02]]|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|80|100|15|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM04]]|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM05]]|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM20]]|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM23]]|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|100|75|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM24]]|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|95|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM25]]|Thunder|Electric|Special|120|70|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM26]]|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM29]]|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM30]]|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM34]]|Shock Wave|Electric|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM40]]|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM47]]|Steel Wing|Steel|Physical|70|90|25|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM53]]|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM57]]|Charge Beam|Electric|Special|50|90|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM59]]|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|90|100|10|Smart|0||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM61]]|Will-O-Wisp|Fire|Status|—|75|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM62]]|Silver Wind|Bug|Special|60|100|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM65]]|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15|Cute|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM66]]|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10|Cool|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM71]]|Stone Edge|Rock|Physical|100|80|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM73]]|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM77]]|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM79]]|Dark Pulse|Dark|Special|80|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM85]]|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM01]]|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM02]]|Fly|Flying|Physical|95|90|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM04]]|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM05]]|Defog|Flying|Status|—|—|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM06]]|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM08]]|Rock Climb|Normal|Physical|90|85|20|Cool|2}}
{{movelist/note|4|Ghost|Dragon}}

====By [[move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|Ghost|Dragon|4a|4|Giratina}}
{{mtentry4a|Air Cutter|Flying|Special|55|95|25|Cool|3|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|AncientPower|Rock|Special|60|100|5|Tough|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Aqua Tail|Water|Physical|90|90|10|Cute|3|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Draco Meteor|Dragon|Special|140|90|5|Smart|2||'''|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Earth Power|Ground|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Fury Cutter|Bug|Physical|10|90|20|Cool|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Iron Head|Steel|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|60|100|5|Smart|0||'''|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|120|100|15|Cool|2||'''|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cute|3|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Spite|Ghost|Status|—|100|10|Tough|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Twister|Dragon|Special|40|100|20|Cool|3||'''|no|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4a|Ghost|Dragon}}

===Side game data===

{{Side game|
type=ghost |
ndex=487 |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=4 |
rate2=8.2% |
iq=C |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox/0formes2|487|Giratina|Altered Forme|[[Pokémon world|{{color|000|Pokémon world}}]]|2|Ghost|Dragon|487O|Origin Forme|[[Distortion World|{{color|000|Distortion World}}]]|2|Ghost|Dragon}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=ghost|
type2=dragon|
gen=4|
gender=2formesnew|
ndex=487|
name=Giratina|
forme1=O|
normalname=Altered Forme|
forme1name=Origin Forme|
}}

==Trivia==
[[Image:Giratina_Origine_Platinum.png|thumb|Giratina is shown with a different sprite|right]]
[[Image:Giratina_Origin_EnglishPt.PNG|thumb|Giratina in the English {{game|Platinum}}|right]]
[[Image:SpearPillar Giratina.png|thumb|Giratina, Dialga, Palkia and Cyrus at the Spear Pillar|right]]
* Giratina is the only dual-type Pokémon that has weaknesses to both of its own types, as well as the only {{type2|Ghost}} legendary Pokémon.
* No other Pokémon has the same [[type]] [[List of Pokémon with unique type combinations|combination]] as Giratina.
* Giratina is one of very few non-{{type2|Flying}} Pokémon that is able to learn {{m|Fly}}. The others are: {{p|Vibrava}}, {{p|Flygon}}, {{p|Latios}}, and {{p|Latias}} (all four of which have the [[ability]] {{a|Levitate}}), {{p|Mew}}, {{p|Smeargle}}, and {{p|Arceus}} (all three of which can learn all [[HM]] moves)
* It is one of eight Pokémon which can change into forms specific to itself, the other seven being {{p|Castform}}, {{p|Deoxys}}, {{p|Cherrim}}, {{p|Burmy}}, {{p|Rotom}}, {{p|Shaymin}}, and {{p|Arceus}}. Like Deoxys's other forms were not available in the original two versions of its generation, {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}, but later became available in the rest of [[Generation III|its generation]], Giratina's Origin Forme is only available in {{game|Platinum}}.
* The Altered Forme is shorter and heavier than the Origin Forme.
* In {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}, Giratina is met at level 70, while in {{v2|Platinum}}, Giratina is met at level 47, the same as {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}}.
* Giratina, as of Platinum, is the only Pokémon to come out from above instead of from the left of the screen during the start of the battle.
* When Giratina is first battled in Platinum, it does not have a shadow. After capture though, it gains one when leaving a [[Poké Ball]].
* The first released sprite of its Origin Forme was not used in Platinum.
* Giratina is the only one of the [[dragon trio]] with a catch rate of 3.
* Giratina is the last {{type2|Ghost}} Pokémon in the National Pokédex as of Generation IV.
* In its Origin Forme, Giratina has the highest {{stat|Attack}} stat of all {{type2|Ghost}} Pokémon.
* Giratina's Altered Forme is the second heaviest of all Pokémon, surpassed only by {{p|Groudon}}, however, its Origin Forme is the fourth heaviest.
* Giratina is the only Pokémon in a legendary trio that is separated from the other members of its group in the Pokédex.
* Giratina is the only Pokémon of its trio whose signature move is not of the {{type|Dragon}}.
===Origin===
Giratina is possibly based on a {{wp|basilisk}}. In the Altered Forme, the wings may be based on a bat's, and its body has the insect-like, six-legged feature, but its posture is similar to a [[wp:sauropod|sauropod]]. Its Origin Forme has a body similar to a serpent, while the six protrusions on its body may be based off of a [[wp:scorpion|scorpion]]'s stinger.

====Name origin====
Giratina's name may be derived from {{wp|platinum}} (written as ''platina'' in {{wp|katakana}}) and either {{wp|guillotine}}, [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Girasol girasol], {{wp|giraffe}} or girare (meaning to wander).


==In other languages==
* [[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Giratina
* [[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Giratina
* [[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 기라티나 ''Giratina''

==External links==
==Notes==
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[[Category:Pokémon with different forms]]

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Giratina (Pokémon)

2009-01-26T10:42:24Z

Uxie legend: /* Physiology */

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Regigigas | next=Cresselia }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Giratina |
jname=ギラティナ |
tmname=Giratina |
image=Giratinaformes.png |
caption=Artwork of Altered Forme (left) from Diamond and Pearl Artwork of Origin Forme (right) from Platinum |
size=300px|
pron=<sc>gi-rah-tee-nah</sc>|
ndex=487 |
sdex=210 |
typen=2 |
type1=Ghost |
type2=Dragon |
species=Renegade |
forme=2|
forme1=Altered Forme |
forme2=Origin Forme |
height-ftin=14′09″ |
height-m=4.5 |
height-ftin2=22′08" |
height-m2=6.9 |
weight-lbs=1653.5 |
weight-kg=750.0 |
weight-lbs2=1433.0 |
weight-kg2=650.0 |
abilityn=alt |
ability1=Pressure |
ability2=Levitate |
egggroupn=0 |
egggroup1=No eggs |
egggroup2= |
hatchsteps=30,720 |
effortyield=3 HP |
expyield=220 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gender=none |
female=0 |
male=0 |
color=Black |
catchrate=3 |
body= 10|
pokefordex= |
generation=4 |
footnotes= }}
'''Giratina''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ギラティナ''' ''Giratina'') is a dual-type {{2t|Ghost|Dragon}} [[legendary Pokémon]].

It is not known to evolve into or from any other Pokémon. However, it can change form.

Giratina is the [[version mascot]] of {{game|Platinum}}.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
As first revealed by Japan's CoroCoro Magazine, Giratina has two forms. The first (Altered Forme) is the form that appeared in [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions]]. In this form, Giratina is has a large, gray, centipede-like body with six short legs. Its legs have gold claws and gold bands on them. It has a tail and a thick black stripe running vertically along the front of its body. There is a series of red horizontal stripes running across the large black one. Three gold half-rings circle the back half of Giratina's neck at the same points that three of the red stripes are at on its front, resembling a ribcage. On its back are two large, black wings that are decorated with red, conical objects that also could be claws.The wings seem oddly out of place, due to the fact that Giratina seems far too heavy to fly effectively. The wings also seem to be ghostly, as it can change shape as if it was made of a liquid. Giratina's head and eyes resemble those of {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}}, causing many to theorize that it is related to the two. This assumption is confirmed in Pokémon Platinum. Giratina's {{shiny2}} form is nearly opposite in color compared to the original. The colors of the shiny Origin Forme is the same as the Altered Forme's except for the wings which appear to be a dark shade of brown.

The second is a new Origin Forme which made its debut in ''[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''; it uses this form when traveling through different dimensions. This form is more serpentine than Giratina's Altered Forme. The Origin Forme of Giratina has six black streamers on its back that each have a red spike at the end. Its mouth is hidden by the head plates, which swing open sideways when the mouth is opening. Giratina's legs have been reduced to spike-like protrusions. There are four more golden spikes near the edge of the tail. This version of Giratina also appears in {{game|Platinum}}.
 

====Gender differences====
Giratina is genderless.

====Special abilities====
As to be expected with other {{type2|Ghost}} Pokémon, Giratina is capable of using Ghost, {{t|Dark}}, {{t|Psychic}} and {{t|Electric}}al attacks. Unlike other {{t|Dragon}} Pokémon, Giratina lacks the ability to wield {{t|Ice}}- and {{type2|Fire}} attacks (save for {{m|Will-O-Wisp}}, which most Ghost-types learn anyway). Giratina is one out of seven Pokémon that is capable of using {{m|Aura Sphere}}. Since Giratina is a "true" Dragon Pokémon, it is also capable of using {{m|Draco Meteor}}.

In Platinum, Giratina can transform to its Origin Forme by equipping the Platinum Orb. If the orb is unequipped in battle, it goes back to Altered Forme. The Origin Forme has higher offensive stats while the Altered Forme has higher defenses. Since Giratina's Origin Forme (and the Platinum Orb, for that matter) is exclusive to Platinum, when it is traded it will revert back to its Altered Forme, and the Platinum Orb it was holding goes back into the Bag.

Giratina is able to control dimensions besides those of time and space.

Giratina is the [[Signature move|only known Pokémon]] that learns {{m|Shadow Force}}.

===Behavior===
Judging by the events in Pokémon Platinum and [[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]], its portrayal in [[Sinnoh myths|ancient folklore]], and its Platinum Pokédex entry, it's assumed that Giratina is a highly aggressive Pokémon that is very protective of [[Distortion World|its home]].

===Habitat===
Like {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}}, Giratina is a one-of-a-kind Pokémon due to its "legendary" status. Legends claim that Giratina appears in cemeteries and that this Pokémon supposedly lives in the spirit world, on the reverse side of this one.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:Giratina Movie11.JPG|thumb|right|210px|Giratina's Altered Forme in a preview for ''[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''.]]
{{an|Giratina}} made its anime debut in ''[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''. In the movie, Giratina lures {{an|Dialga}} into the Reverse World in order to exact revenge against the Temporal Pokémon for causing damage to the Reverse World. [[Zero]] also attempts to copy Giratina's powers in order to take control over the Reverse World. Throughout the movie, Giratina takes on its Origin Forme whenever it is in the Reverse World, and its Altered Forme whenever it is in the Real World.

It will make another appearance in the [[To the Conquering of Space-Time|twelfth movie]] alongside {{an|Dialga}} and {{an|Palkia}}.
 

==In the manga==

==In the TCG==
{{main|Giratina (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
* [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2]]: Giratina is the guardian of the [[Seven Treasures|Rock Horn]].

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=ghost
|type2=dragon
|gen=4
|diamonddex= A Pokémon that is said to live in [[Distortion World|a world on the reverse side of ours]]. It appears in an ancient cemetery.
|pearldex= A Pokémon that is said to live in a world on the reverse side of ours. It appears in an ancient cemetery.
|platinumdex= {{tt|JP|Unofficial translation of the Japanese entry}} Because of its violent behavior, it was driven out into the [[Distortion World]], from where it silently gazes upon our world.
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=ghost |
type2=dragon |
gen=4 |
dprarity=One |
dparea=[[Turnback Cave]] |
ptrarity=One |
ptarea=[[Distortion World]]|
}}
====In side games====
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{ghost color}};"
! Game
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (Time and Darkness)]]
| [[World Abyss]] (30F)
|}

===Base stats===
====Altered Forme====
[[Image:ArtGiratina.png|left|130px]]{{BaseStats|
type=ghost |
type2=dragon |
HP=150 |
Attack=100 |
Defense=120 |
SpAtk=100 |
SpDef=120 |
Speed=90 }}

====Origin Forme====
[[Image:GiratinaOriginForme.png|left|125px|Origin Forme]]{{BaseStats|
type=ghost |
type2=dragon |
HP=150 |
Attack=120 |
Defense=100 |
SpAtk=120 |
SpDef=100 |
Speed=90 }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=ghost|
type2=dragon|
Normal= 0 |
Fighting=0 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 50 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 200 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=50 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 200 |
Dark= 200 |

notes = yes |
ghost = yes|
newnormal = 1|
newfighting=1|
levitate=maybe}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|Ghost|Dragon|4|4|Giratina}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Scary Face|Normal|Status|—|90|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|DragonBreath|Dragon|Special|60|100|20|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|10|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|60|100|5|Smart|0||'''}}
{{mlentry4|20|AncientPower|Rock|Special|60|100|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|30|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|80|100|15|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|40|Shadow Force|Ghost|Physical|120|100|5|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|50|Heal Block|Psychic|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|60|Earth Power|Ground|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|70|Slash|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|80|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15|Cute|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|90|Aura Sphere|Fighting|Special|90|—|20|Beauty|2}}
{{movelist/note|4|Ghost|Dragon}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|ghost|dragon|4|4|Giratina}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM02]]|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|80|100|15|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM04]]|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM05]]|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM20]]|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM23]]|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|100|75|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM24]]|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|95|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM25]]|Thunder|Electric|Special|120|70|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM26]]|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM29]]|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM30]]|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM34]]|Shock Wave|Electric|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM40]]|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM47]]|Steel Wing|Steel|Physical|70|90|25|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM53]]|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM57]]|Charge Beam|Electric|Special|50|90|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM59]]|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|90|100|10|Smart|0||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM61]]|Will-O-Wisp|Fire|Status|—|75|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM62]]|Silver Wind|Bug|Special|60|100|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM65]]|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15|Cute|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM66]]|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10|Cool|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM71]]|Stone Edge|Rock|Physical|100|80|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM73]]|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM77]]|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM79]]|Dark Pulse|Dark|Special|80|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM85]]|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM01]]|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM02]]|Fly|Flying|Physical|95|90|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM04]]|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM05]]|Defog|Flying|Status|—|—|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM06]]|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM08]]|Rock Climb|Normal|Physical|90|85|20|Cool|2}}
{{movelist/note|4|Ghost|Dragon}}

====By [[move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|Ghost|Dragon|4a|4|Giratina}}
{{mtentry4a|Air Cutter|Flying|Special|55|95|25|Cool|3|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|AncientPower|Rock|Special|60|100|5|Tough|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Aqua Tail|Water|Physical|90|90|10|Cute|3|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Draco Meteor|Dragon|Special|140|90|5|Smart|2||'''|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Earth Power|Ground|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Fury Cutter|Bug|Physical|10|90|20|Cool|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Iron Head|Steel|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|60|100|5|Smart|0||'''|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|120|100|15|Cool|2||'''|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cute|3|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Spite|Ghost|Status|—|100|10|Tough|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Twister|Dragon|Special|40|100|20|Cool|3||'''|no|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4a|Ghost|Dragon}}

===Side game data===

{{Side game|
type=ghost |
ndex=487 |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=4 |
rate2=8.2% |
iq=C |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox/0formes2|487|Giratina|Altered Forme|[[Pokémon world|{{color|000|Pokémon world}}]]|2|Ghost|Dragon|487O|Origin Forme|[[Distortion World|{{color|000|Distortion World}}]]|2|Ghost|Dragon}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=ghost|
type2=dragon|
gen=4|
gender=2formesnew|
ndex=487|
name=Giratina|
forme1=O|
normalname=Altered Forme|
forme1name=Origin Forme|
}}

==Trivia==
[[Image:Giratina_Origine_Platinum.png|thumb|Giratina is shown with a different sprite|right]]
[[Image:Giratina_Origin_EnglishPt.PNG|thumb|Giratina in the English {{game|Platinum}}|right]]
[[Image:SpearPillar Giratina.png|thumb|Giratina, Dialga, Palkia and Cyrus at the Spear Pillar|right]]
* Giratina is the only dual-type Pokémon that has weaknesses to both of its own types, as well as the only {{type2|Ghost}} legendary Pokémon.
* No other Pokémon has the same [[type]] [[List of Pokémon with unique type combinations|combination]] as Giratina.
* Giratina is one of very few non-{{type2|Flying}} Pokémon that is able to learn {{m|Fly}}. The others are: {{p|Vibrava}}, {{p|Flygon}}, {{p|Latios}}, and {{p|Latias}} (all four of which have the [[ability]] {{a|Levitate}}), {{p|Mew}}, {{p|Smeargle}}, and {{p|Arceus}} (all three of which can learn all [[HM]] moves)
* It is one of eight Pokémon which can change into forms specific to itself, the other seven being {{p|Castform}}, {{p|Deoxys}}, {{p|Cherrim}}, {{p|Burmy}}, {{p|Rotom}}, {{p|Shaymin}}, and {{p|Arceus}}. Like Deoxys's other forms were not available in the original two versions of its generation, {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}, but later became available in the rest of [[Generation III|its generation]], Giratina's Origin Forme is only available in {{game|Platinum}}.
* The Altered Forme is shorter and heavier than the Origin Forme.
* In {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}, Giratina is met at level 70, while in {{v2|Platinum}}, Giratina is met at level 47, the same as {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}}.
* Giratina, as of Platinum, is the only Pokémon to come out from above instead of from the left of the screen during the start of the battle.
* When Giratina is first battled in Platinum, it does not have a shadow. After capture though, it gains one when leaving a [[Poké Ball]].
* The first released sprite of its Origin Forme was not used in Platinum.
* Giratina is the only one of the [[dragon trio]] with a catch rate of 3.
* Giratina is the last {{type2|Ghost}} Pokémon in the National Pokédex as of Generation IV.
* In its Origin Forme, Giratina has the highest {{stat|Attack}} stat of all {{type2|Ghost}} Pokémon.
* Giratina's Altered Forme is the second heaviest of all Pokémon, surpassed only by {{p|Groudon}}, however, its Origin Forme is the fourth heaviest.
* Giratina is the only Pokémon in a legendary trio that is separated from the other members of its group in the Pokédex.
* Giratina is the only Pokémon of its trio whose signature move is not of the {{type|Dragon}}.
===Origin===
Giratina is possibly based on a {{wp|basilisk}}. In the Altered Forme, the wings may be based on a bat's, and its body has the insect-like, six-legged feature, but its posture is similar to a [[wp:sauropod|sauropod]]. Its Origin Forme has a body similar to a serpent, while the six protrusions on its body may be based off of a [[wp:scorpion|scorpion]]'s stinger.

====Name origin====
Giratina's name may be derived from {{wp|platinum}} (written as ''platina'' in {{wp|katakana}}) and either {{wp|guillotine}}, [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Girasol girasol], {{wp|giraffe}} or girare (meaning to wander).


==In other languages==
* [[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Giratina
* [[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Giratina
* [[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 기라티나 ''Giratina''

==External links==
==Notes==
{{Legendary Pokémon}}
{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Regigigas | next=Cresselia }}

{{Project Pokédex notice}}
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[[Category:Sinnoh Legendary Pokémon]]
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[[de:Giratina]]
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Talk:Altaria (Pokémon)

2009-01-26T10:39:21Z

Uxie legend: /* Altaria-based of a Phoenix? */ new section

Does anyone know the meaning of Altaria's Japanese name?

>I'm pretty sure it's named after a star in the Draco constilation. I know it's an astrological reference, anyways.

- Zeta

== Location ==

Where is Altaria located in ruby/sapphire and beyond? I don't have any of them but D/P and this won't tell me where. [[User:Tyrogue|Tyrogue]]
:You just have to be patient. Bulbapedia relies on voluntary work and we already know where there are gaps. As it happens, I was working through the Game locations before my unexpected absense in the last week but now that I'm back I'll get back into them. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 10:36, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
::To tide you over, I think they can be found in the [[Sky Pillar]], though very rarely. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 19:15, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
:::You could also evolve Swablu, they're found on {{rt|114}} and evolve at level 35. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 23:24, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I thought they were in Sky Pillar... [[User:Tyrogue|Tyrogue]]

== Another name theory ==

Could the "Alt" in Altaria's name possibly refer to the word "altitude", as in a high altitude. It does make sense, being a Flying-type. -- [[User:Nebula|Nebula]] 00:24, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm.....maybe. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 00:29, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

== Altaria-based of a Phoenix? ==

It is,after all,a Dragon-type Pokémon and can learn moves such as Flamethrower and Fire Blast(even though many other non-Fire-types do too)
If I recall correctly this was even once written in the Origin section!

Talk:Wonder Orb

2009-01-26T09:40:49Z

Uxie legend: /* Itemizer Orb */ new section

We should state which orbs are in which game, if I recall, Spurn wasn't in the original. '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 13:04, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

== Itemizer Orb ==

My favourite itemizer orb is missing![[User:Uxie legend|Uxie Legend]] 09:40, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Claydol (Pokémon)

2009-01-23T17:33:08Z

Uxie legend: /* Claydol:The symbols on it's body */

== TM/HM ==

Where the heck are they? You know, I'm having doubts on this site now... <_<- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Nidolord500|Nidolord500]] ([[User talk:Nidolord500|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nidolord500|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:Limited amount of contributors + people who don't follow the {{bp|manual of style}} + other things to do = no real chance to implemet the movesets everywhere. Wanna help, maybe? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 04:57, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::Hence why I never used BP as a Pokédex, but for more behavior-ish related things.. imo, that's what Bulbapedia is more of. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 18:29, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Hey I'll be glad to help. I'm working on {{p|Baltoy}} as we speak.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 20:29, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

== C.C(Claydol colour) ==

I added the fact of colour difference between the artwork and the sprite to the trivia section.[[User:Uxie legend|Uxie Legend]] 17:30, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

== Claydol:The symbols on it's body ==

Another thing that has come into my mind:
For me,these symbols on Claydol always looked like breasts.After all,Claydol is described as a figu'''rine''',right?

Talk:Claydol (Pokémon)

2009-01-23T17:32:43Z

Uxie legend: /* Claydol:The symbols on it's body */ new section

== TM/HM ==

Where the heck are they? You know, I'm having doubts on this site now... <_<- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Nidolord500|Nidolord500]] ([[User talk:Nidolord500|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nidolord500|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:Limited amount of contributors + people who don't follow the {{bp|manual of style}} + other things to do = no real chance to implemet the movesets everywhere. Wanna help, maybe? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 04:57, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::Hence why I never used BP as a Pokédex, but for more behavior-ish related things.. imo, that's what Bulbapedia is more of. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 18:29, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Hey I'll be glad to help. I'm working on {{p|Baltoy}} as we speak.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 20:29, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

== C.C(Claydol colour) ==

I added the fact of colour difference between the artwork and the sprite to the trivia section.[[User:Uxie legend|Uxie Legend]] 17:30, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

== Claydol:The symbols on it's body ==

Another thing that has come into my mind:
For me,these symbols on Claydol always looked like breasts.After all,Claydol is described as a figu'''rine''',right?

== Claydol:The symbols on it's body ==

Another thing that has come into my mind:
For me,these symbols on Claydol always looked like breasts.After all,Claydol is described as a figu'''rine''',right?

Talk:Claydol (Pokémon)

2009-01-23T17:32:41Z

Uxie legend: /* Claydol:The symbols on it's body */ new section

== TM/HM ==

Where the heck are they? You know, I'm having doubts on this site now... <_<- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Nidolord500|Nidolord500]] ([[User talk:Nidolord500|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nidolord500|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:Limited amount of contributors + people who don't follow the {{bp|manual of style}} + other things to do = no real chance to implemet the movesets everywhere. Wanna help, maybe? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 04:57, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::Hence why I never used BP as a Pokédex, but for more behavior-ish related things.. imo, that's what Bulbapedia is more of. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 18:29, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Hey I'll be glad to help. I'm working on {{p|Baltoy}} as we speak.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 20:29, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

== C.C(Claydol colour) ==

I added the fact of colour difference between the artwork and the sprite to the trivia section.[[User:Uxie legend|Uxie Legend]] 17:30, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

== Claydol:The symbols on it's body ==

Another thing that has come into my mind:
For me,these symbols on Claydol always looked like breasts.After all,Claydol is described as a figu'''rine''',right?

Talk:Claydol (Pokémon)

2009-01-23T17:30:45Z

Uxie legend: /* C.C(Claydol colur) */

Talk:Claydol (Pokémon)

2009-01-23T17:30:35Z

Uxie legend: /* C.C(Claydol colur) */ new section

== TM/HM ==

Where the heck are they? You know, I'm having doubts on this site now... <_<- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Nidolord500|Nidolord500]] ([[User talk:Nidolord500|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nidolord500|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:Limited amount of contributors + people who don't follow the {{bp|manual of style}} + other things to do = no real chance to implemet the movesets everywhere. Wanna help, maybe? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 04:57, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::Hence why I never used BP as a Pokédex, but for more behavior-ish related things.. imo, that's what Bulbapedia is more of. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 18:29, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Hey I'll be glad to help. I'm working on {{p|Baltoy}} as we speak.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 20:29, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

== C.C(Claydol colur) ==

I added the fact of colour difference between the artwork and the sprite to the trivia section.[[User:Uxie legend|Uxie Legend]] 17:30, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Claydol (Pokémon)

2009-01-23T17:28:34Z

Uxie legend: /* Trivia */

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Baltoy | next=Lileep }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Claydol |
jname=ネンドール |
tmname=Nendoll |
image=344Claydol.png|size=130|
caption=Artwork from R/S/E |
ndex=344 |
hdex=132 |
adex=250 |
typen=2 |
type1=Ground |
type2=Psychic |
height-ftin=4′11″ |
height-m=1.5 |
weight-lbs=238.1 |
weight-kg=108.0 |
species=Clay Doll |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Levitate |
ability2= |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Mineral |
egggroup2= |
hatchsteps=5,120 |
effortyield=2 SpD |
expyield=189 |
lv100exp=1,000,000 |
gender=none |
female=0 |
male=0 |
color=Black |
catchrate=90 |
body=04 |
pokefordex=claydol |
generation=3 |
footnotes=}}
'''Claydol''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ネンドール''' ''Nendoll'') is a dual-type {{2t|Ground|Psychic}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolve]]s from {{p|Baltoy}} starting at [[level]] 36.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Claydol has a large black body with two small legs, eyes encircling its head, and cannon-lilke arms that float separately from its body. It still has the markings it had as {{P|Baltoy}}.
====Gender differences====
Claydol is a genderless species.

====Special abilities====
In addition to being able to float indefinitely using telekinesis, it also can shoot beams from its cannon-like arms. It is able to keep its floating arms close to its body by use of psychic powers.

===Behavior===
Claydol is not used to exposure to modern humans, since it was created by ancient people. For this reason, it chooses to reside in places where humans do not usually tread, such as the [[Sky Pillar]]. It uses its psychic powers constantly to its advantage.

===Habitat===
[[Image:Roughterrain.gif|left|frame|[[List of Pokémon by habitat#Rough-terrain Pokémon|Rough-terrain Pokémon]]]]
Claydol can be found in caves and deserts.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:ClaydolBigandTall.jpg|thumb|right|220px|A [[Giant Pokémon|giant]] Claydol in the anime, being lured by {{Ash}} and [[James]]]]
Claydol's first appearance was in ''[[AG104|Claydol Big and Tall]]''. A giant one was released from a giant, stone [[Poké Ball]] and had to be stopped from getting to a village.

In ''[[AG123|Rhapsody in Drew]]'', {{ho|Robert}} used a Claydol against [[Drew]] in the final match of the [[Hoenn Grand Festival]].

In ''[[AG164|Ka Boom with a View]]'', {{Spenser}} uses a Claydol against {{Ash}}.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Claydol (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=ground
|type2=psychic
|gen=3
|rubydex=Claydol are said to be dolls of mud made by primitive humans and brought to life by exposure to a mysterious ray. This Pokémon moves about while {{a2|Levitate|levitating}}.
|sapphiredex=Claydol is an enigma that appeared from a clay statue made by an ancient civilization dating back 20,000 years. This Pokémon shoots {{m2|Hyper Beam|beams}} from both its hands.
|emeralddex=A Claydol sleeps while hovering in midair. Its arms are separate from its body. They are kept floating by the Pokémon's manipulation of {{M|psychic}} power.
|firereddex=It appears to have been born from clay dolls made by ancient people. It uses telekinesis to float and move.
|leafgreendex=It appears to have been born from clay dolls made by ancient people. It uses telekinesis to float and move.
|diamonddex=An ancient clay figurine that came to life as a Pokémon from exposure to a mysterious ray of light.
|pearldex=An ancient clay figurine that came to life as a Pokémon from exposure to a mysterious ray of light.
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=ground |
gen=3 |
rsrarity=Uncommon |
rsarea=[[Sky Pillar]] |
erarity=Uncommon |
earea=[[Sky Pillar]] |
xdarea=[[Evolve]] {{p|Baltoy}} |
dparea=[[Evolve]] {{p|Baltoy}} |
ptarea=[[Evolve]] {{p|Baltoy}} |
palarea=Mountain |
}}

====In side games====
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{ground color}};"
! Game
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire]]
| Evolve from {{p|Baltoy}}
|-
| [[Pokémon Trozei!]]
| Endless Level 17 Forever Level 66 Pair Trozei Mr. Who's Den
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (Red and Blue)]]
| Evolve from {{p|Baltoy}}
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (Time and Darkness)]]
| [[Sky Stairway]] (1F-49F)
|-
| [[Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia]]
| [[Hippowdon Temple]]
|}

===Base stats===
{{BaseStats|
type=ground |
type2=psychic |
HP=60 |
Attack=70 |
Defense=105 |
SpAtk=70 |
SpDef=120 |
Speed=75 }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP Type effectiveness|
type1=ground|
type2=psychic|
Normal= 100 |
Flying= 100 |
Fighting=50 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 50 |
Bug= 200 |
Poison= 50 |
Ghost= 200 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 200 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric=0 |
Psychic= 50 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 200 |

notes=yes|
levitate=yes|
newground=1}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|ground|psychic|4|3|Claydol}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Teleport|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Confusion|Psychic|Special|50|100|25|Smart|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Harden|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Rapid Spin|Normal|Physical|20|100|40|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|3|Harden|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|5|Rapid Spin|Normal|Physical|20|100|40|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|7|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|11|Psybeam|Psychic|Special|65|100|20|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|15|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|19|Selfdestruct|Normal|Physical|200|100|5|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|25|AncientPower|Rock|Special|60|100|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|31|Power Trick|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|36|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|40|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|51|Cosmic Power|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|62|Earth Power|Ground|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|73|Heal Block|Psychic|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|86|Explosion|Normal|Physical|250|100|5|Beauty|0}}
{{movelist/note|4|ground|psychic}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|ground|Psychic|4|3|Claydol}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM04]]|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM13]]|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM16]]|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM20]]|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM22]]|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10|Cool|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM26]]|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10|Tough|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM28]]|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10|Smart|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM29]]|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM30]]|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM33]]|Reflect|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM37]]|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM39]]|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM45]]|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM46]]|Thief|Dark|Physical|40|100|10|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM48]]|Skill Swap|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM57]]|Charge Beam|Electric|Special|50|90|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM64]]|Explosion|Normal|Physical|250|100|5|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM67]]|Recycle|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM69]]|Rock Polish|Rock|Status|—|—|20|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM70]]|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM71]]|Stone Edge|Rock|Physical|100|80|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM74]]|Gyro Ball|Steel|Physical|—|100|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM76]]|Stealth Rock|Rock|Status|—|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM77]]|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM80]]|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM85]]|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15|Smart|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM86]]|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM92]]|Trick Room|Psychic|Status|—|—|5|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM04]]|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM06]]|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|Tough|2}}
{{movelist/note|4|ground|psychic}}

====By breeding====
None.

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|Ground|psychic|4b|3a|Claydol}}
{{mtentry4|AncientPower|Rock|Special|60|100|5|Tough|2|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Double-Edge|Normal|Physical|120|100|15|Tough|0|||yes|yes|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15|Smart|1||'''|yes|yes|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Earth Power|Ground|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2|||no|yes|no|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Explosion|Normal|Physical|250|100|5|Beauty|0|||yes|yes|no|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Mimic|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0|||yes|yes|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3||'''|no|yes|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0|||no|yes|no|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10|Tough|3|||yes|yes|no|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Selfdestruct|Normal|Physical|200|100|5|Beauty|0|||no|no|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Signal Beam|Bug|Special|75|100|15|Beauty|2|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3|||no|yes|no|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cool|3|||no|yes|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1|||yes|yes|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2|||no|yes|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Trick|Psychic|Status|—|100|10|Smart|0|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15|Beauty|2||'''|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4|ground|psychic}}

===Side game data===

{{Side game|
type=ground |
ndex=344 |
PinRSevo=yes |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=Evolve |
area=Ancient Relic |
P1= Hovering in the air is quite pleasant, actually. |
P2= This is ominous. My HP is half depleted already. |
P3= I've taken too much damage. It pains me to remain airborne... |
PL= Level-up secured! My psychic power grows and grows! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=no |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=0.5% |
iq=F |
Ranger2=yes |
typeG2= Psychic |
typeA2= Psychic |
field2= Crush x3 |
browser2= It scatters mysterious energy orbs. It also lets loose psychic energy waves to attack. |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox/1|343|Baltoy|2|Ground|Psychic|[[Level|Level 36]]|344|Claydol|2|Ground|Psychic|}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=ground|
type2=psychic|
gen=3|
gender=none|
ndex=344|
name=Claydol|
}}

==Trivia==
*The symbols on Claydol's chest and back resemble the Q form of {{p|Unown}}.
*Despite all its Sugimori artwork showing Claydol with perpetual eye pattern of "open eye"-"shut eye", all its back sprites depict it with all of its "eyes" open.
*Another difference between the sprites and the official artwork is the dominant colour of Claydol's body.In the games,Claydol is brown instead of black,resembling clay.In the anime and in the artwork it is of a darker colour.
===Origin===
Its design is similar to the 遮光器土偶 ''{{wp|shakōkidogū}}'' - a "spaceman" clay figurine from the {{wp|Jomon|Jōmon period}} of Japanese history. It also looks exactly like the connecting piece on Chinese {{wp|bracelet}}s.
====Name origin====
Claydol's name appears to be a combination of ''clay'', ''idol'', and possibly ''doll'' as well. Judging by the pronunciation, it may also be a combination of ''clay'' and ''{{wp|dreidel}}'', because Claydol and its pre-evolution look like tops. ''Nendoll'' is probably a combination of 念 ''nen'', thought, and ''doll''. ''Nen'' is found in various compounds having to do with {{wp|Extrasensory perception|ESP}}-related phenomena, for instance, 念写 ''nensha'', spirit-photography, and 念動 ''nendō'', telekinesis. It may also be (as the English name suggests) a combination of 粘土 ''nendo'', "clay," and ''doll''.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Lepumentas
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Kaorine - Comes from ''{{wp|kaolin}}'', a type of clay used as a medicine for upset stomachs.
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 점토도리 ''Jeomtodori''

==External links==

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Baltoy | next=Lileep }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Genderless Pokémon]]
[[Category:Pokémon that are part of a two-stage evolutionary line]]

[[de:Lepumentas]]
[[fr:Kaorine]]
[[ja:ネンドール]]
[[pt:Claydol (pokémon)]]

User talk:Uxie legend

2009-01-23T17:25:17Z

Uxie legend: /* Signature Error */

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:And please make sure you sign ''all'' of the talk page comments you make--[[User:HAH08|HAH08]] 19:58, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

When did I erase a comment?[[User:Uxie legend]]

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AUxie_legend&diff=435167&oldid=359684 [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 17:19, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

== Signature Error ==

1: You click the signature button next to the nowiki and dash button, or type <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>.

2:If you do use that for your signature, which you couldn't as there is no time stamp, it leads to a red link.--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' 17:17, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:Also, no images.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 02:59, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh,sorry then...[[User:Uxie legend|Uxie Legend]] 17:25, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Dialga (Pokémon)

2009-01-12T13:16:20Z

Uxie legend: /* Capture Dialga */

== Most resistances ==
Hmm, Dialga does not have the most resistances, the Magnemite and its evolutions do, with one immunity and twelve resistances, two of them being doubly strong, albeit having more weaknesses. I'll make a change.

== Japanese pronunciation ==
Why do you people believe it's japanese name is "Dialga" when it's really Diaruga? Unsigned comment by {{u|IDeoxys}}
:Same thing. Dialga is the romanized version.--[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|ElectAbuzzzz]] 19:38, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

:Diaruga is how it's pronounced, but the official Nintendo romanization is Dialga. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 23:45, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

:Remember that ル is how Japanese people write "l" and "ru"; despite the fact that they are limited in writing, they pronounce "l" - just with an accent. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 13:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

== Capture Dialga ==

Dialga is realy hard to catch
:Dialga and Palkia are the easiest legendaries to catch. I caught my Dialga in the first turn with a Quick Ball. --

:Are you kidding me?? All I had to do is change the clock to make it "night" and I caught Palkia with a Dusk Ball. Never waste your Master Ball on something like Dialga or Palkia. [[User:Dialgarules|Dialgarules]] 22:17, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 12:43, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
It's funny, cuz everyone wastes their master ball on him, when you should use it on Regigigas, or Cresselia. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 20:22, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:I still have my masterball, I caught palkia with a pokeball (no lie, he was asleep with no health left)[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|C is for Cookie]] 20:29, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
::From my experiance, Dialga and {{p|Palkia}} is the most easiest legendary to capture. Never, ever, ever use a Master Ball. A huge waste. [[User:DragonTamer|DragonTamer]] 06:49, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Anybody know that Dialga and Palkia have the same catch rate as a Chatot?[[User:Uxie legend|Uxie http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/f/f8/Ani407MS.gif]] 13:16, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

==Dialga vs Palkia==
Due to their stats, I think Dialga is stronger.

:But they have the same base stats, so they're really the same. (One horrible topic to bring up in a talk page...) [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 15:08, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
::Actually, Palkia's Speed and Sp.Def. are higher, while Dialga's HP and Defense are higher. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:18, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
:::But their base stat totals are the same, making them logically equal, just stronger in different areas.
::::According to my username, Dialga ''is'' indeed better than Palkia. Dialga can KO Palkia with Roar of Time, but Palkia can't KO Dialga with Spacial Rend. I know. I've tried. [[User:Dialgarules|Dialgarules]] 22:19, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:We can also judge by weaknesses...{{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]{{{1|05:59 12 Mar 2008}}}'''

When you look at Base Stat '''totals''', they're even. Looking at each Base Stat '''individually''', Dialga is superior in Defense and HP, while Palkia is superior in Speed and Special Defense. Type-wise:
:Dialga has 2 weaknesses, Palkia has 1; Palkia is better (but not much)
:Dialga has 12 resistances (one of which is immunity), Palkia has 3 resistances; Dialga is better (much better)
I still prefer Dialga over Palkia; not only can he hold his own against more types, I think he just looks cooler. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 23:13, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

==Unique levels to be found at.==
This was recently removed from the trivia section on this page: "* Dialga and {{p|Palkia}} are the only two legends who's levels are not a multiple of 10. Meaning, you meet all other legends at levels 30,40,50 and so on, but those two you meet at Lv. 47."
It was removed because Kyogre and Groudon are both found at level 45. My question then is, couldn't we just change the 10 to a 5 in that quote and keep it on the page? --[[User:Ozzie|Ozzie]] 21:39, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:Well, if the trivia item was spelled that wrong, what with "who's" instead of the correct "whose" and a "you" or two in there, I can see why it was removed. It's an interesting bit of trivia, though, that D and P are the only legends met at a level that isn't an even multiple of 5. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:17, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

:In platinum, Giratina will be found at level 47 aswell [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 13:32, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

:I decided to put up the aforementioned fact about Dialga and Palkia's levels. I put it like this:
"Dialga and {{p|Palkia}} are the first legendary Pokémon to be seen at a level that is not divisible by 5, appearing at Level 47." [[User:SharKing|SharKing]] 03:28, 24 August 2008 (UTC)SharKing
::I changed First to only[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]
:I disagree with that. Like Kanjo said, Giratina will be at 47 in Platinum. [[User:SharKing|SharKing]] 22:37, 24 August 2008 (UTC)SharKing
::Site your sources.Rayquaza was found at level 70 compared to whatever level Groudon adn Kyogre were found in ther respective games[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]
:::Umm....{{p|Regigigas}} in Platinum... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:23, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

==Trivia==
Here it says that Celebi can control the time, but Celebi just can TRAVEL in the time. Dialga is the only pokemon that can control the time (unless Arceus also can) --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]] 21:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:The only way to be able to travel through time is to control it...•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 21:30, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

should we mention the fact that dialga becomes primal dialga when it loses control over time in Pokémon time explorers in the trivia?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 14:34, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

== Catch Rate? ==

It says it the Trivia Section that [[Palkia (Pokémon)|Palkia]], Dialga, and [[Phione]], are the legendary that has the highest catch rate. But what about [[Shaymin (Pokémon)|Shaymin]]? It has a catch rate of 45!
[[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 03:43, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

:Well, its weird that {{p|Giratina}} is harder to catch than Dialga or {{p|Palkia}}. Weirder still, there are still other weak pokémon that is harder to catch. [[User:DragonTamer|DragonTamer]]

== Origin ==

Should we put {{wp|Kan-Laon}} because it is similar to dialga --[[User:Bakunawa|Bakunawa]] 07:11, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

== Browser entry? ==

How is its browser entry currently unknown? Surely someone can extract it, plus Palkia and Shaymin's entries, from the game's data? Y'know, like what's done to find out base stats? I would be glad to do this, if I knew how. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 12:55, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Bulbapedia:Spading

2008-12-18T15:46:48Z

Uxie legend: /* {{p|Shaymin}} */

{{shortcut|2|SPADING|BP:SPADING}}
'''Spading''' (from the [[wikipedia:Bartle Test|Bartle Test]]) is the act of actively trying to learn about all aspects of a game. To that end, this page will contain a list of questions about the games that need to be researched, and will probably contain a list of answers for historical purposes.

==All generations==
==={{status|Confusion}}===
:''Status: Answered''
How is damage from confusion determined? Attack and defense stats both influence it, but is there a base power like normal attacks?
*'''Answer''': Smogon says that it's a 40-power move.

==[[Generation IV]]==
===[[Breeding]]===
There's some oddity in the number of steps it takes to hatch an egg. The steps between egg hatches when holding multiple eggs is always divisible by 255 (minimum difference of 510), even if the steps between receiving them are not. It happens consistently when
*{{a|Magma Armor}} or {{a|Flame Body}} are on
*while holding multiple eggs from the same parents
*when some eggs are received while others are being held
There's probably a common counter for all eggs in the party, which, when it rolls over, decrements all egg counters by 1. However, this doesn't explain the "divisible by 255" part.

===[[Turnback Cave]]===
How does the game determine which kind of room comes next for each entrance? Is there any way to determine if the room the player is entering into will be a pillar room before entering it, or is getting through the cave in three rooms just dumb luck? Each room has four exits, the one the player came from warps them back to the entrance room, while the other three may take the player to several types of rooms filled with rocks or a pillar room.

==={{a|Flash Fire}}===
The current page says that Flash Fire will activate when the user is burned. However, Flash Fire nullifies Fire attacks, and thus the only moves that can possibly burn a Flash Fire user are {{m|Will-O-Wisp}} and {{m|Tri Attack}}. [[Flame Orb]] and {{a|Flame Body}} can also cause a burn.

'''The question''': Does a burn really activate Flash Fire, or did the contributor see an interaction between Will-O-Wisp and Flash Fire and interpreted it incorrectly?

Will-O-Wisp is possibly nullified, since it's a Fire move, and [http://www.gamespot.com/ds/rpg/pokemondiamond/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-41882499&pid=925601 Google says] that Flame Orb does not get nullified, so the only case is Tri Attack. Does causing a burn with Tri Attack activate Flash Fire?

==={{a|Iron Fist}}===
:''Status: Answered''
Is the list of moves that count as punches complete? Are there any punches which can't usually be learned by Hitmonchan, yet are boosted by Iron Fist?
* The Mystery Dungeon compatible moves are all tested, as shown on talk page. Were any other moves described as a punch missed?
*'''Answer''': Testing shows Iron Fist only boosts punches compatible with Hitmonchan at some point.
[[Category:Game mechanics]]

==={{p|Shaymin}}===
Some of my friends have told me that Shaymin's Sky Form isn't usable on wi-fi... we need to find out for sure. And to that end, test Rotom's forms. (Would I not be able to use an adorable specimen like him to fight with my friends online? ;_;)
*''Partial answer:'' When going to Wi-fi, Giratina's Platinum Orb is taken off and Shaymin reverts to Land Forme. It's part of the games coding based from what I read some time ago. *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 01:34, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

If this applies to the forms of Shaymin and Giratina,it is probably because the forms aren't programmed into the Diamond and Pearl versions.In order to be able to interact with D/P,this has to be done.Therefore I find it safe to assume that Rotom will also reverse into it's normal form.
[[User:Uxie legend|Uxie http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/f/f8/Ani407MS.gif]] 15:46, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
==={{a|Solid Rock}}===
Different sites give different percentages by which damage is reduced with this ability, and from the talk page, this still isn't resolved. What exactly is the correct factor?

==={{m|Crush Grip}} and {{p|Combusken}}===
Throughout places related to Pokémon Battle Revolution, there is talk of a Combusken which knows Crush Grip. Which Colosseum is this Combusken found in, and is it really Crush Grip or Crush Claw?

'''Answer''': It's in the [[Sunset Colosseum]], and it's Crush Claw. [[user:chocolate|Cho]][[user talk:chocolate|col]][[special:contributions/chocolate|ate]] 20:59, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

==={{m|Fire Fang}} and Platinum===

Can Fire Fang bypass {{a|Wonder Guard}} in Platinum like it can in Diamond and Pearl?

Bulbapedia:Spading

2008-12-18T15:46:13Z

Uxie legend: /* {{p|Shaymin}} */

{{shortcut|2|SPADING|BP:SPADING}}
'''Spading''' (from the [[wikipedia:Bartle Test|Bartle Test]]) is the act of actively trying to learn about all aspects of a game. To that end, this page will contain a list of questions about the games that need to be researched, and will probably contain a list of answers for historical purposes.

==All generations==
==={{status|Confusion}}===
:''Status: Answered''
How is damage from confusion determined? Attack and defense stats both influence it, but is there a base power like normal attacks?
*'''Answer''': Smogon says that it's a 40-power move.

==[[Generation IV]]==
===[[Breeding]]===
There's some oddity in the number of steps it takes to hatch an egg. The steps between egg hatches when holding multiple eggs is always divisible by 255 (minimum difference of 510), even if the steps between receiving them are not. It happens consistently when
*{{a|Magma Armor}} or {{a|Flame Body}} are on
*while holding multiple eggs from the same parents
*when some eggs are received while others are being held
There's probably a common counter for all eggs in the party, which, when it rolls over, decrements all egg counters by 1. However, this doesn't explain the "divisible by 255" part.

===[[Turnback Cave]]===
How does the game determine which kind of room comes next for each entrance? Is there any way to determine if the room the player is entering into will be a pillar room before entering it, or is getting through the cave in three rooms just dumb luck? Each room has four exits, the one the player came from warps them back to the entrance room, while the other three may take the player to several types of rooms filled with rocks or a pillar room.

==={{a|Flash Fire}}===
The current page says that Flash Fire will activate when the user is burned. However, Flash Fire nullifies Fire attacks, and thus the only moves that can possibly burn a Flash Fire user are {{m|Will-O-Wisp}} and {{m|Tri Attack}}. [[Flame Orb]] and {{a|Flame Body}} can also cause a burn.

'''The question''': Does a burn really activate Flash Fire, or did the contributor see an interaction between Will-O-Wisp and Flash Fire and interpreted it incorrectly?

Will-O-Wisp is possibly nullified, since it's a Fire move, and [http://www.gamespot.com/ds/rpg/pokemondiamond/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-41882499&pid=925601 Google says] that Flame Orb does not get nullified, so the only case is Tri Attack. Does causing a burn with Tri Attack activate Flash Fire?

==={{a|Iron Fist}}===
:''Status: Answered''
Is the list of moves that count as punches complete? Are there any punches which can't usually be learned by Hitmonchan, yet are boosted by Iron Fist?
* The Mystery Dungeon compatible moves are all tested, as shown on talk page. Were any other moves described as a punch missed?
*'''Answer''': Testing shows Iron Fist only boosts punches compatible with Hitmonchan at some point.
[[Category:Game mechanics]]

==={{p|Shaymin}}===
Some of my friends have told me that Shaymin's Sky Form isn't usable on wi-fi... we need to find out for sure. And to that end, test Rotom's forms. (Would I not be able to use an adorable specimen like him to fight with my friends online? ;_;)
*''Partial answer:'' When going to Wi-fi, Giratina's Platinum Orb is taken off and Shaymin reverts to Land Forme. It's part of the games coding based from what I read some time ago. *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 01:34, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

If this applies to the forms of Shaymin and Giratina,it is probably because the forms aren't programmed into the Diamond and Pearl versions.In order to be able to interact with D/P,this has to be done.Therefore I find it safe to assume that Rotom will also reverse into it's normal form.

==={{a|Solid Rock}}===
Different sites give different percentages by which damage is reduced with this ability, and from the talk page, this still isn't resolved. What exactly is the correct factor?

==={{m|Crush Grip}} and {{p|Combusken}}===
Throughout places related to Pokémon Battle Revolution, there is talk of a Combusken which knows Crush Grip. Which Colosseum is this Combusken found in, and is it really Crush Grip or Crush Claw?

'''Answer''': It's in the [[Sunset Colosseum]], and it's Crush Claw. [[user:chocolate|Cho]][[user talk:chocolate|col]][[special:contributions/chocolate|ate]] 20:59, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

==={{m|Fire Fang}} and Platinum===

Can Fire Fang bypass {{a|Wonder Guard}} in Platinum like it can in Diamond and Pearl?

Charizard (Pokémon)

2008-12-18T15:35:02Z

Uxie legend: /* Physiology */

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Charmeleon | next=Squirtle }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Charizard |
pron=<sc>''char''-i-zard</sc> <ref>Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''. Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5</ref> |
jname=リザードン |
tmname=Lizardon|
image=006Charizard.png |
caption=Artwork from FR/LG |
ndex=006 |
jdex=231 |
hdex=208 |
fdex=142 |
adex=139 |
typen=2 |
type1=Fire |
type2=Flying |
species=Flame |
height-ftin=5′07″ |
height-m=1.7 |
weight-lbs=199.5 |
weight-kg=90.5 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Blaze |
ability2= |
egggroupn=2 |
egggroup1=Monster |
egggroup2=Dragon |
hatchsteps=5,120 |
effortyield=3 SpA |
expyield=209 |
lv100exp=1,059,860 |
gender=both |
female=12.5 |
male=87.5 |
color=Red |
catchrate=45 |
body=06 |
pokefordex=charizard |
generation=1 |
footnotes=}}
'''Charizard''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''リザードン''' ''Lizardon'') is a dual-type {{2t|Fire|Flying}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Charmeleon}} starting at [[level]] 36. It is the final form of {{p|Charmander}}.

Charizard is the [[version mascot]] of [[Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|Pokémon Red]] and [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FireRed]] Versions. It also makes an appearance on the [[Pokémon Ranger]] and [[Pokémon Stadium (English)|Pokémon Stadium]] boxarts.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Unlike its pre-evolution cousins, it has powerful wings that can allow it to {{m|fly}} at blinding speeds, although the faster it flies, the more strain is put on the Pokémon, and it must rest for a good while after doing so. It is also more vulnerable to attacks the more outspread its wings are, so its newfound flying ability should be treated with as much care as a flying Pokémon. It has a considerably higher defense than its cousins, though as noted before caution should be used about its wings, which have little defense. Its physical strength now matches the strength of its fire attacks, and it can withstand mid-high altitude pressure, allowing it to fly above mountains, and can even withstand the high pressure and extreme heat of volcanoes.
Charizard is a very dragon-like Pokémon.It has,like its previous forms;a long tail with a fire burning at the tip.The front of it's two wings is blue,while the back is orange like the most of it's body.Although hardly visible,Charizard's iris is light blue in colour.It's belly is cream- coloured.

====Gender differences====
None.

===Special abilities===
Because of the wings it has grown upon evolution, Charizard is now able to {{M|fly}} and can use many other {{Type2|Flying}} abilities. As its pre-evolutions could, it can use {{type2|Fire}} moves. It also has access to {{type2|Dragon}} moves, such as {{m|Dragon Claw}} and {{m|Dragon Rage}}.

===Behavior===
Generally, a Charizard will be competitive. It loves to battle and spend a great amount of time training or looking for opponents. Its competitive spirit is also noteworthy, since it will never spit flames at a weaker foe unless provoked or commanded. When it gets very angered, the flames on its tail become a blueish-white color. It spits fire that is hot enough to melt boulders. It is known to have unintentionally caused massive forest fires with its tail-flame. The more experienced a Charizard, the more intense its tail flame and breath are.

===Habitat===
[[Image:Mountain.gif|right|frame|[[List of Pokémon by habitat#Mountain Pokémon|Mountain Pokémon]]]]
Charizard is mercifully rare in the wild; however, there is [[Charicific Valley|a valley]] somewhere in [[Johto]] wherein many Charizard reside. Charizard also inhabit craggy mountains and active volcanoes.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:AG136 022.jpeg|frame|left|Ash's Charizard using {{m|DragonBreath}}.]]
[[Ash Ketchum]] has a {{AP|Charizard}} that he obtained as a Charmander in ''[[EP011|Charmander the Stray Pokémon]]''. It evolved into Charmeleon in ''[[EP043|March of the Exeggutor Squad]]'' and quickly evolved again into Charizard in ''[[EP046|Attack of the Prehistoric Pokémon]]''. From the time of its becoming Charmeleon to the [[Orange Islands]] episode ''[[EP105|Charizard Chills]]'', Charizard refused to obey Ash. After ''Charizard Chills'', however, it became one of Ash's strongest Pokémon, perhaps even stronger than {{AP|Pikachu}}. Ash left Charizard in the [[Charicific Valley]] with {{jo|Liza}} in ''[[EP134|Charizard's Burning Ambition]]''. It has returned to visit and battle for him on several occasions since then, however.

When [[James]] was in the Pokémon League Entrance Exam in ''[[EP056|The Ultimate Test]]'', he used a Charizard that he eventually tried to steal.
[[Image:JnJCharizardAggron.jpg|thumb|right|Jessie and James with their {{TP|Jessie|Charizard}} and {{TP|James|Aggron}}.]]

A Charizard was used by Team Rocket in a battle against [[Ash's Totodile]] as part of an elaborate plan to capture Pikachu in ''[[EP248|One Trick Phony!]]''.

A trainer used a Charizard in the {{to|Verdanturf}} [[Pokémon Contest]] in ''[[AG051|Come What May]]''.

In ''[[H017|Those Darn Electabuzz]]'', {{an|Casey}} had to help Corey Demario and his Charizard named Don get their fighting spirit back so that Corey could start pitching for The Electabuzz Baseball Team.

[[Clark]] used a Charizard and {{p|Quilava}} against [[Ash's Grovyle]] and {{AP|Glalie}} in ''[[AG128|Shocks and Bonds]]''. Clark's Charizard defeated Ash's Grovyle and lost to Ash's Glalie.

In ''[[AG177|Grating Spaces]]'', {{OBP|Delibird|Team Rocket}} gave [[Jessie]] and [[James]] a Charizard and {{p|Aggron}}, with Jessie getting {{TP|Jessie|Charizard}} and James getting {{TP|James|Aggron}}, respectively. However, Delibird took the two Pokémon away at the end of the episode as the Charizard and Aggron were meant for [[Cassidy]] and [[Butch]].

==In the manga==
In [[Pokémon Special]], one of {{Special|Green}}'s main Pokémon is a {{TP|Green|Charizard}}, evolved from his {{p|Charmander}}. [[Dome Ace Tucker|Tucker]] also has a Charizard in the {{ho|Battle Frontier}} storyline.

In [[Electric Tale of Pikachu]], [[Ritchie]] has [[Zippo|a Charizard]], which he pitted against Ash's Charizard in their battle in the [[Indigo League]].

In [[Pocket Monsters Emerald: Challenge!! Battle Frontier]], [[Rald]], the main character's mentor has a Charizard.

In [[Pokémon Zensho]], {{OBP|Satoshi|Zensho}} has a Charizard that was originally a Charmander he received from Professor Oak.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Charizard (TCG)}}
Charizard's [[Charizard (Base Set 4)|first-released TCG card]], which as part of the {{TCG|Base Set}}, was widely regarded at the height of popularity of Pokémon as the best card ever. This was because of its powerful attack, Fire Spin, and useful Pokémon Power, Energy Burn, which allowed it to convert any Energy attached to it to {{TCG|Fire}} Energy. {{m|Fire Spin}} needed four Fire Energy and could deal 100 damage, knocking out the majority of Pokémon cards. Individual Charizard cards were sold up to as much as $150. This Charizard card was reprinted in [[Wizards of the Coast]]'s {{TCG|Base Set 2}} and {{TCG|Legendary Collection}} sets, and rereleased in the {{TCG|Stormfront}} expansion.

==In the TFG==
One Charizard figure has been released.
* {{TFG|Next Quest}}: {{TFG ID|Next Quest|Charizard|1}}

==Other appearances==
[[Image:Charizard Rock Smash.jpg|right|thumb|[[Red (game)|Pokémon Trainer]] commanding Charizard to use {{m|Rock Smash}} in [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]].]]
===[[Super Smash Bros.]]/[[Super Smash Bros. Melee|Melee]]/[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl|Brawl]]===
Charizard makes an appearance as a Pokémon released randomly from a [[Poké Ball]]. When summoned, Charizard will utilize {{m|Flamethrower}} alternating between the left and right. In Melee, the flames have more of a downward angle.

Charizard is a playable Pokémon used by {{ga|Red|Pokémon Trainer}} in the third game in the series, Brawl. It can use {{m|Flamethrower}} and {{m|Rock Smash}}. It also uses {{m|Fly}} and has the ability to glide. Charizard is a Heavyweight and attacks with various physical attacks. It uses {{m|Fire Blast}} in Pokémon Trainer's Final Smash, [[Final Smash#Triple Finish|Triple Finish]].

====Melee trophy information====
It's hard to believe, but this massive Flame Pokémon evolves from the tiny Charmander. Not only can it fly at heights of over 4,500 feet, but its flaming breath is hot enough to reduce almost anything to ashes in seconds. The flames at the end of a Charizard's tail are said to be a fairly accurate barometer of its power.

====Brawl trophy information====
A Flame Pokémon. Its fiery breath is hot enough to burn up rocks, and its wings let it fly up to 4,600 feet into the air. It's a proud Pokémon that will never use its flame breath on an opponent weaker than itself. The flame on its tail is a barometer of how much vitality it has remaining. Its signature move, Flamethrower, is a reliable technique.

==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
* [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]: Charizard is a member of [[Team A.C.T.]]

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=fire
|type2=flying
|gen=1
|redbluedex=It spits fire that is hot enough to melt boulders. Known to cause forest fires unintentionally.
|yellowdex=When expelling a blast of super hot fire, the red flame at the tip of its tail burns more intensely.
|golddex=If Charizard becomes furious, the flame at the tip of its tail flares up in a whitish-blue color.
|silverdex=Breathing intense, hot {{m2|Flamethrower|flames}}, it can melt almost anything. Its breath inflicts terrible pain on enemies.
|crystaldex=It uses its wings to {{m2|Fly|fly}} high. The temperature of its fire increases as it gains experience in battle.
|rubydex=Charizard {{m2|Fly|flies}} around the sky in search of powerful opponents. It breathes fire of such great heat that it melts anything. However, it never turns its fiery breath on any opponent weaker than itself.
|sapphiredex=Charizard {{m2|Fly|flies}} around the sky in search of powerful opponents. It breathes fire of such great heat that it melts anything. However, it never turns its fiery breath on any opponent weaker than itself.
|emeralddex=A Charizard flies about in search of strong opponents. It breathes intense flames that can melt any material. However, it will never torch a weaker foe.
|firereddex=Its wings can carry this Pokémon close to an altitude of 4,600 feet. It blows out fire at very high temperatures.
|leafgreendex=It spits fire that is hot enough to melt boulders. It may cause forest fires by blowing flames.
|stadiumdex=Its fiery breath reaches incredible temperatures. It can quickly melt glaciers weighing 10,000 tons.
|stadium2dex=If Charizard becomes furious, the flame at the tip of its tail flares up in a whitish-blue color.
|diamonddex=It is said that Charizard's fire burns hotter if it has experienced harsh battles.
|pearldex=It is said that Charizard's fire burns hotter if it has experienced harsh battles.
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=fire |
gen=1 |
rbarea=[[Evolve]] {{p|Charmeleon}} |
yarea=[[Evolve]] {{p|Charmeleon}} |
frlgarea=[[Evolve]] {{p|Charmeleon}} |
dparea=[[Pal Park]] |
ptarea=[[Pal Park]] |
palarea=Field |
}}

====In side games====
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{fire color}};"
! Game
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Snap]]
| [[Pokémon Island Volcano|Volcano]]
|-
| [[Pokémon Trozei!]]
| Endless Level 23 Forever Level 72 Pair Trozei Mr. Who's Den
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (Red and Blue)]]
| Evolve from {{p|Charmeleon}}
|-
| [[Pokémon Ranger]]
| [[Jungle Relic]] (during mission)
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (Time and Darkness)]]
| [[Spacial Rift]] (B1-B15) [[Deep Spacial Rift]] (B1-B9) [[Dark Crater Pit]] (B6-B14)
|-
| [[Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia]]
| [[Volcano Cave]]
|}

===Base stats===
{{BaseStats with RBY|
HP=78 |
Attack=84 |
Defense=78 |
SpAtk=109 |
SpDef=85 |
Special=85 |
Speed=100 |
type=Fire |
type2=Flying }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=fire|
type2=flying|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=50 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 400 |
Bug= 25 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 200 |
Grass= 25 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |
notes=yes|
gen1fire=yes|
flying=yes|
newground=2|
oldice=2}}

===Learnset===
{{Learnset intro|Charizard}}
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|fire|flying|4|1|Charizard}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Air Slash|Flying|Special|75|95|20|Cool|0||'''}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|80|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Scratch|Normal|Physical|40|100|35|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Growl|Normal|Status|—|100|40|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Ember|Fire|Special|40|100|25|Beauty|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|Start|SmokeScreen|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|7|Ember|Fire|Special|40|100|25|Beauty|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|10|SmokeScreen|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|17|Dragon Rage|Dragon|Special|—|100|10|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|21|Scary Face|Normal|Status|—|90|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|28|Fire Fang|Fire|Physical|65|95|15|Beauty|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|32|Slash|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|36|Wing Attack|Flying|Physical|60|100|35|Cool|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|42|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|95|100|15|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|49|Fire Spin|Fire|Special|15|70|15|Beauty|0||'''}}
{{mlentry4|59|Heat Wave|Fire|Special|100|90|10|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|66|Flare Blitz|Fire|Physical|120|100|15|Smart|2||'''}}
{{movelist/note|4|fire|flying}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|fire|flying|4|1|Charizard}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM01]]|Focus Punch|Fighting|Physical|150|100|20|Tough|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM02]]|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|80|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM05]]|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM22]]|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10|Cool|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM23]]|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|100|75|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM26]]|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM28]]|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM31]]|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM35]]|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|95|100|15|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM38]]|Fire Blast|Fire|Special|120|85|5|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM39]]|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM40]]|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM45]]|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM47]]|Steel Wing|Steel|Physical|70|90|25|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM50]]|Overheat|Fire|Special|140|90|5|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM51]]|Roost|Flying|Status|—|—|10|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM52]]|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM56]]|Fling|Dark|Status|—|100|10|Tough|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM59]]|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|90|100|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM61]]|Will-O-Wisp|Fire|Status|—|75|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM65]]|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM75]]|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM78]]|Captivate|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM80]]|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM01]]|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM02]]|Fly|Flying|Physical|90|95|15|Smart|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM04]]|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM05]]|Defog|Flying|Status|—|—|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM06]]|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|Tough|2}}
{{movelist/note|4|fire|flying}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{eggmoves|fire|flying|4|1|Charizard}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Cranidos}}, {{p|Rampardos}} {{p|Shieldon}}, {{p|Bastiodon}}|AncientPower|Rock|Special|60|100|5|Tough|1}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Ekans}}, {{p|Arbok}} {{p|Nidoran♂}}, {{p|Nidorino}}, {{p|Nidoking}}|Beat Up|Dark|Physical|10|100|10|Smart|2|*}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Snorlax}}|Belly Drum|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Squirtle}}, {{p|Wartortle}}, {{p|Blastoise}} {{p|Ekans}}, {{p|Arbok}} {{p|Gyarados}} {{p|Totodile}}, {{p|Croconaw}}, {{p|Feraligatr}} {{p|Larvitar}}, {{p|Pupitar}}, {{p|Tyranitar}} {{p|Loudred}}, {{p|Exploud}} {{p|Seviper}} {{p|Bagon}}, {{p|Shelgon}}, {{p|Salamence}} {{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Grotle}}, {{p|Torterra}}|Bite|Dark|Physical|60|100|25|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Arbok}} {{p|Snorlax}} {{p|Totodile}}, {{p|Croconaw}}, {{p|Feraligatr}} {{p|Larvitar}}, {{p|Pupitar}}, {{p|Tyranitar}} {{p|Exploud}} {{p|Seviper}} {{p|Bagon}}, {{p|Shelgon}}, {{p|Salamence}} {{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Grotle}}, {{p|Torterra}} {{p|Garchomp}}|Crunch|Dark|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Horsea}}, {{p|Seadra}}, {{p|Kingdra}} {{p|Gyarados}} {{p|Dratini}}, {{p|Dragonair}}, {{p|Dragonite}} {{p|Altaria}}|Dragon Dance|Dragon|Status|—|—|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Dratini}}, {{p|Dragonair}}, {{p|Dragonite}} {{p|Gible}}, {{p|Gabite}}, {{p|Garchomp}}|Dragon Rush|Dragon|Physical|100|75|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Charizard}}|Flare Blitz|Fire|Physical|120|100|15|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Aron}}, {{p|Lairon}}, {{p|Aggron}}|Metal Claw|Steel|Physical|50|95|35|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Dratini}}, {{p|Dragonair}}, {{p|Dragonite}}|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|120|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Larvitar}}, {{p|Pupitar}}, {{p|Tyranitar}}|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Cubone}}, {{p|Marowak}} {{p|Rhyhorn}}, {{p|Rhydon}}, {{p|Rhyperior}}|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|0|*}}
{{eggmoves/note|4|fire|flying}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|fire|flying|4|1|Charizard}}
{{mtentry4|Air Cutter|Flying|Special|55|95|25|Cool|3||'''|no|no|no|no|yes|}}
{{mtentry4|Blast Burn|Fire|Special|150|90|5|Beauty|2||'''|yes|no|no|yes|yes|}}
{{mtentry4|Body Slam|Normal|Physical|85|100|15|Tough|3|||yes|yes|yes|no|no|}}
{{mtentry4|Counter|Fighting|Status|—|100|20|Tough|2|||yes|yes|no|no|no|}}
{{mtentry4|Defense Curl|Normal|Status|—|—|40|Cute|2|||no|yes|no|no|no|}}
{{mtentry4|Double-Edge|Normal|Physical|120|100|15|Tough|0|||yes|yes|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|DynamicPunch|Fighting|Physical|100|50|5|Cool|2|||no|yes|no|no|no|}}
{{mtentry4|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2|||no|yes|no|no|no|}}
{{mtentry4|Fire Punch|Fire|Physical|75|100|15|Beauty|2||'''|no|yes|no|no|yes|}}
{{mtentry4|Fury Cutter|Bug|Physical|10|95|20|Cool|2|||no|yes|no|no|yes|}}
{{mtentry4|Heat Wave|Fire|Special|100|90|10|Beauty|2||'''|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Mega Kick|Normal|Physical|120|75|5|Cool|2|||yes|yes|no|no|no|}}
{{mtentry4|Mega Punch|Normal|Physical|80|85|20|Tough|2|||yes|yes|no|no|no|}}
{{mtentry4|Mimic|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0|||yes|yes|yes|no|no|}}
{{mtentry4|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3|||no|yes|no|no|yes|}}
{{mtentry4|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|60|100|5|Smart|0|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|120|100|15|Cool|2|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10|Tough|3|||yes|yes|no|no|no|}}
{{mtentry4|Seismic Toss|Fighting|Physical|—|100|20|Tough|3|||yes|yes|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3|||no|yes|no|no|no|}}
{{mtentry4|Snore|Normal|Physical|40|100|15|Cool|3|||no|yes|no|no|yes|}}
{{mtentry4|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1|||yes|yes|yes|no|no|}}
{{mtentry4|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2|||no|yes|yes|no|no|}}
{{mtentry4|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2|||no|yes|no|no|yes|}}
{{mtentry4|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|0|||yes|yes|no|no|no|}}
{{mtentry4|ThunderPunch|Electric|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|2|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Twister|Dragon|Special|40|100|20|Cool|3|||no|no|no|no|yes|}}
{{tutor/note|4|fire|flying}}

====Special moves====
In Pokémon Mystery Dungeon, Charizard will learn Blast Burn at level 99 if it has at least 333 [[IQ]] points. If this requirement is not met until after reaching level 99, Blast Burn will still be available at the Move Relearner.

===Side game data===
{{Side game|
type=fire |
ndex=006 |
Pinevo=yes |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
type=fire |
body=1 |
rate=Evolve |
area=Mt. Cleft |
P1= Leave it to me! I'll raze everything! |
P2= My body's cooling down. My health is down to half. |
P3= I can't... There's no power left in my flame... |
PL= I leveled up! My flame is burning even hotter now! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=yes |
typeG=Fire |
typeA=Fire |
field=Burn x3 |
loop=11 |
browser= Charizard breathes super-hot flames that melt Ice and incinerate even steel. |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=-12% |
iq=C |
Ranger2=yes |
typeG2= Fire |
typeA2= Fire |
field2= Burn x4 |
browser2= It spits blobs of fire. It also lets loose expanding rings of fire to attack. |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox/2|004|Charmander|1|Fire||[[Level|Level 16]]|005|Charmeleon|1|Fire||[[Level|Level 36]]|006|Charizard|2|Fire|Flying|}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=fire|
type2=flying|
gen=1|
gender=none|
ndex=006|
name=Charizard|
}}

==Trivia==
* Even though Charizard is supposed to evolve from {{p|Charmeleon}} through leveling up, in {{g|Snap}}, a Charmeleon evolves by falling into a pit of lava. This may be due to the fact that Snap based more on the anime than the handheld games.
* Charizard is the only evolution of a [[starter Pokémon]] that can learn {{m|Fly}} through [[HM02]], but it can't in {{v2|Red and Blue|s}}. This was changed starting with {{v2|Yellow}}, making it possible to still get a Charizard with Fly in the original games, by trading one from a later version.
* Charizard has the same exact cry as {{p|Rhyhorn}}.
* Charizard has the same base stats as {{p|Typhlosion}}.
* Charizard is the first {{t|Flying}} Pokémon in [[National Pokédex]] order.
* Charizard is the only non-legendary Pokémon that is a dual-type {{2t|Fire|Flying}} Pokémon. The other known Pokémon with this combination are {{p|Moltres}} and {{p|Ho-Oh}}, both of which are legendary Pokémon and that resemble a phoenix.
* Charizard shares the same [[species]] name as {{p|Charmeleon}}, {{p|Flareon}}, {{p|Moltres}}, and {{p|Infernape}}. They are all known as Flame Pokémon.
* Charizard and its pre-evolutions are similar to the Pokémon {{p|Bagon}}, {{p|Shelgon}}, and {{p|Salamence}}, as both evolutionary lines end with the final being able to {{m|fly}} and being more draconic.
* Charizard, along with {{p|Gyarados}} and {{p|Aerodactyl}}, resemble a dragon, even though they are not {{type2|Dragon}}. All are also used by the Dragon trainer, Lance.
* Charizard is the only non {{type2|Dragon}} to learn {{m|Dragon Claw}} by level-up.
* Charizard holds the distinction of being the first Pokémon to appear in the [[anime]], as it is the first one to appear in the original opening credits (although outside Japan it is {{p|Mewtwo}}).

===Origin===
Charizard resembles the {{wp|European dragon}}, which had many forms in the legends that described it. Although it is a {{type2|Fire}} Pokémon, it can learn {{type2|Dragon}} attacks, such as {{m|Dragon Rage}}.
====Name origin====
Charizard's name is a combination of the words ''char'', to burn, and ''lizard''. ''Lizardon'', on the other hand, is a combination of ''lizard'' and ''don'', which is a suffix commonly used in {{wp|dinosaur}} names.

==In other languages==
* [[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Glurak - Comes from ''Glut'' (ember, also the German translation for the {{M2|Ember|move of the same name}}) and ''Drache'' (dragon).
* [[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Dracaufeu - Effectively translates as ''Fire Dragon''.
* [[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 리자몽 ''Rijamong'' (Lizamon)
* [[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese (Taiwan and Hong Kong)]]: 噴火龍 Pēn Hǔo Lóng - "Fire spurting dragon".

==Related articles==
* [[Ash's Charizard]]
* [[Jessie's Charizard]]

==External links==
* [http://demyx.net/chari/ Flamethrower], the fanlisting for Charizard
*[http://www.brawlsnapshots.com/snapshots/tag?order=score&tag=charizard Snapshots of Charizard from Super Smash Bros. Brawl]

==Notes==
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{{Starter Pokémon‎}}
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{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Version mascots]]
[[Category:Pokémon that are part of a three-stage evolutionary line]]
[[Category:Pokémon that are included in the Japan-only Pokémon Stadium]]
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[[fr:Dracaufeu]]
[[ja:リザードン]]
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Talk:Pokémon Platinum Version

2008-12-18T13:20:25Z

Uxie legend: /* Legendary encounters */ new section

==Archives==
*[[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (discussions from November 30, 2007–September 18, 2008)

== And... The reviews are pouring in. ==

Somebody should add them to the article. I would but my computer is acting all screwy right now. All I know is Famitsu gave it a 36, the reveiwers all gave it 9's. [[User:Zabbethx|Zabbethx]] 19:16, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

== Well... ==

There's still a link to [[Torn World]] in here somewhere instead of [[Ruined World]], but I can't find it. It's important that we call it what it's been dubbed as by Nintendo, and that's the [[Ruined World]], not the mistranslated [[Torn World]]. So, if anyone happens to see that, would you mind changing it? Thanks. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 21:14, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
:"Torn" isn't a mistranslation. Nintendo just went with something different. (Just...clearing that up...) Anyway, I don't see any links to "Torn World" after using Ctrl+F.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:14, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
::ya, cause I fixed it--[[Blastoise (Pokémon)|K]][[Gary's Blastoise|kl]][[Blastoise (TCG)|l]][[User:Kkllnn|nn]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| blastoise]] 15:15, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

==Spring 2009 Rumor==

People, that magazine scan is from Beckett Magazine. The issue that is posted in is from last November, and it is the first thing listed in this page's archive.

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 03:49, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
:Beckett? Then there's ''no way'' it's going on the page.
:Got that, everyone?--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:17, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
::And the English translations normally take about 6-8 months to come out anyways. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 01:08, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I personally agree with the rumor, but we still need reliable sources on release dates.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:13, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:::As do I, since Pt came out in Japan two weeks before DP's second anniversary, the same thing would likely happen with the English. But yes, the Beckett rumor has been around since before JAPAN had a concrete date. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:28, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

==Resort Area Villas==
Can anyone post a pic of that? {{unsigned|Drybones}}
:A gallery isn't necesary anymore. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 06:21, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

A picture would be nice.
[[User:Drybones|Drybones]] 09:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)Drybones: A member of Team Rootbeer.
:There are a lot more things that deserve an image on this article than the villa. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 10:31, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

== The 'Un-DeFog-able Mist' in Eterna Forest... ==

Seems more like shadows being cast by Forest Canopy than the mist, with shafts of light breaking through and leaving those patches... Using the picture of Gardenia outside the Old Chateau in the [[Eterna Forest]] article as a reference, there's even an edging to it where it thins and lets a little more light through.

[[Image:Old chateau out.PNG]]

Or am I just being crazy? --[[User:JaffaJHDA|JaffaJHDA]] 17:26, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
:I didn't understand... but seems like you think that it is fog? It's obvious that it's nothing but the shadows of the clouds, or the suppossed overgrown trees that cover the sky. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 20:28, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
::That's what Jaffa is trying to tell people. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 05:29, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Sorry, I should have made myself more clear... It's listed in the 'Map Changes' section as a 'Mist' that can't be DeFog-ed and it's been bugging me for a while. I didn't want to jump right in and edit it without opening up a discussion first, just in case someone takes offense or disagrees... --[[User:JaffaJHDA|JaffaJHDA]] 10:52, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
::::It needs to be changed. It's misleading. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 18:27, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:That screen-shot is way too dark. Seriously, that shadow is nowhere as powerful on a real {{tt|DS|DS Lite with lowest back-light setting}}. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 20:17, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't look like fog. Fog is more of a white. If it's not shadow cast by the trees, it would be smog. [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 10:19, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:I thought I said above it was a shadow..? [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 10:25, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

== Release Date ==

I added the Japanese release date to the first paragraph; if you have any problems with it, do what you wish. [[User:Mwakin21|Mwakin21]] 20:09, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

== My Pokémon Ranch Patch ==

I read this on Serebii that they got info on the patch for my Pokémon ranch for japan. Its unknown if other patches will come out in different languages. It's free to upgrade notice UPGRADE which means you have to already have it. [[User:Luckario|Luckario]] 21:43, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:It's not released as a patch as such. I believe it will just be re-download, like other updated titles. Anyone who hasn't brought it after it gets updated, will just download the updated version. That's how I understand it anyway, and yes - I have a Wii and have updated software on it. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 11:56, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

== Crud.... ==

Can somebody please go through the whole Platinum article to search for spelling and grammar mistakes? I had done that yesterday, even making the same changes to the trivia entry that Hfc2x just edited, but I forgot to save, leading to the changes being lost. I don't have time in the next few days to go through again, so to whoever does, thanks! [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 20:32, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

== Tense Error? ==

I went through a few bits of the article, and I saw many "will be" and other such future tense verbs. Now that the game is out, shouldn't the verbs be in the present tense? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 21:36, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
:They should, but im not going to do such a boring job if you wanna go thrugh them all you can --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
::Yes they should be. Thanks for looking while I was gone. And thank you to UltimateSephiroth for actually changing it. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 18:52, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Im so glad you found something to do on a Sunday. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:::You're welcome, though I reckon editing only a few mistakes :P UltimateSephiroth ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|user]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|contrib]]) 18:12, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
:::At least it's something. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 20:44, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

== Comestic "Error" Trivia ==
About that, I would like to point out that this is the Torn World.... rules need not apply. I would not be surprised if this was on purpose. Keep in mind that the Platinum Orb is the most unique item in Pokémon History... it disappears in link battles with other versions. The Orb may be seperately programmed due to this. {{Unsigned|Paperfairy}}
:Please remember to sign next time. And for the Orb, this is in the Gen IV series. They wouldn't put things like that in. And I wouldn't go as far as saying that the PO is the most unique item. There is a set place to find it, while other items, like the Light Ball or Lucky Egg, are a very low find rate, and even then, it's totally random. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 18:34, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

== Mom? ==

Let's discuss this, then. I believe "Mom" is refered to as Johanna in the contest hall by Keira (and during contests). Does this seem like enough reason to call her Johanna? --[[User:Blazevoir|Blaze]][[User talk:Blazevoir|voir]][[Special:Contributions/Blazevoir|!!]]''' 01:05, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

:That did come to mind, but it is more practical to just say "the player's mother". [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 01:20, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, I guess you're right.'''--[[User:Blazevoir|Blaze]][[User talk:Blazevoir|voir]][[Special:Contributions/Blazevoir|!!]]''' 01:21, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Exactly, the only reason {{u|Urutapu}} is being like this is because the original edit was made by me. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:Uh, Admins (usually) aren't that shallow. All the other games didn't name the player's mom, but Diamond and Pearl, and I assume Platinum, did. However, would anyone ever call their own mother by their name? No, they would call her "Mom". Therefore, Bulbapedia should probably do the same. I have mixed views about this, so I think an Admin should settle this.--[[User:Blazevoir|Blazevoir]][[User Talk:Blazevoir|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Blazevoir|Contribs]] 20:43, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

<big>SUCK UP</big> just cos someone is an admin doesnt mean they are right, it just means in the past they have added loads of stuff to Bulba.--[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:Please stop arguing over things like this, Guardian. You've gotten into word fights with people before, and nobody likes to have to see that. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:25, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
::And your being a troll over it. YAY!--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
You know, Guardian, you would be tolerated far more if you didn't go around acting like a tool. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 01:26, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

OMG people, learn some terminology, you cant just go around using words cause they seem to fit, if someone calls your a tool it means you are easily manipulated and people use you, which i am not. And a troll is someone who goes onto forums and tries to disturb it and attack people. And its not disrupting the peace to sell someone they are wrong, and sse it through, just because you lot give up your views so you can suck up and be admins doesn't mean I am a troll. Glinn, I think you are the tool. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]

Just quit it guys. This isn't helping anything. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:29, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
:OMG people, learn some terminology, you cant just go around using words cause they seem to fit, if someone calls your a tool it means you are easily manipulated and people use you, which i am not. And a troll is someone who goes onto forums and tries to disturb it and attack people. And its not disrupting the peace to sell someone they are wrong, and sse it through, just because you lot give up your views so you can suck up and be admins doesn't mean I am a troll. Glinn, I think you are the tool. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
::Thanks for the great Example.--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:::Yes, it is rather amusing to see people attempt to make an attempt on my use of the English language, while at the same time screwing it up themselves.
:::FYI Guardian, O person who thinks they know everything, the word "tool" has more than one meaning.
:::End of the discussion. [[User:GlinnMgraw|'''Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw''']] 02:25, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

== Yay ==

Please don't touch the links for mom or Johanna in this article any more. They have been fixed by Kkllnn, and to avoid fights, don't change them again.
::And I realize that this sounds like I'm trying to be an admin, but I don't want to have things constantly changing in the articles. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:43, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

I thought these pages were to help add on to the article! Please, i'm not from Bukbapedia, but i LOVE Pokemon,so if you will please suck it up! we are all people here! Does it matter if some of us are admins?? (although i have no clue what that is)! [[User: Kasumi12]] 19:02 19 November 2008 (utc)
:The pages ARE for helping, but people were fighting over how to do the links. And I was saying I'm not an admin (administrator), but my request made me sound like I was pretending to be one. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 04:31, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
::???? How did ''I'' fix them? All I did was put a simpler link...--The [[Blastoise (Pokémon)|Kk]][[Gary's Blastoise|ll]][[Blastoise (TCG)|nn]][[User:Kkllnn|ator]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| カメックス]] 21:47, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
:::People stopped changing it didn't they? [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:30, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

==Wikipedia release date==
over there they say that the Europe release date is Summer 2009, can someone check its source? [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 12:12, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
:The source does not say ANYTHING about the release date, not even for Japan. And you have to remember, Wikipedia isn't the best source, as anybody can go in and edit things. The Euro release date is a speculation, as is the U.S. release. We can only assume it will be released in the next year or so. The only thing said about releases in the source article is this: "If this feature makes it to the European release - and we've no reason to believe it won't - then we'll be very happy Bunearys indeed." And the quote is referencing the Wi-fi upgrades only. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 18:31, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

== Game before anime ==

the recent jap episode is clearly based on PT, you know the one with Rotom, so the game has to be released before that episode airs to follow the rule of game before anime. So if some geeks could work out when this Rotom episode should air in USA, then look around 3 months prior to that date, that would likely be the release date

::Evidence:
*In japan PT was released on Sep 13, 3 months later = dec 13, now admitedly the episode aired a little bit different than that date, but its still close. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]

:Math time. The most recent episode came out about 5 months after it came out in Japan. So, based on your logic, Platinum would come out in February, right? I think that's a little too early.—[[User:Blazevoir|Blazevoir]][[User Talk:Blazevoir|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Blazevoir|Contribs]] 21:59, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

No, not my logic at all. How can i explain this better.

*this episode (Rotom one) is directly linked to platinum, as it is about a platinum only event.
*General rule is that the game comes out before the anime
*So if you can work out when this particular episdoe (Rotom one) will air in USA, then you know that Platinum has to come out before that.

So if there is a geek who is willing to work out when each episode will air, find out when the Rotom one airs in USA and then we know that Platinum will come out say 3 months before that. As Platinum needs to be released before an episode in the anime relating to Platinum can be released. If the general rule isnt to be broken. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:Who says they can't stop airing new episodes until Platinum is released? '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 21:35, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

good point, they could put the show on hiatus, although this has only happened once due to PGZ --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]

If I can remember right, the dubs come out anywhere from 1-3 months after the episode shows. This'll give us untill January-March to get Platinum if you're theory is correct, Guardian. Unfortunately for us, I doubt we'll get it by then... but who knows? The Pokémon translators have pulled through at times we wouldn't expect. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:11, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
:If you get Pt within three months, you Americans are very lucky. My brother just bought a DS Lite and Pokémon Diamond, and it bugs me because I decided to wait until Platinum which supposedly lands in Europe as late as next summer... Let's hope the translators have switched the turbo switch on :P '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 22:14, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
:Why don't you just order one when they come out here then? I know it would be a bit more expensive, but you would get it at least a month, if not more, earlier. Unless you don't care THAT much. I would be spazzing out if I lived where you do, from lack of Pokémon when I needed it. :) [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:20, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
::I give it April, still. It comes out the same amount of time after JpPt as USDP did after JpDP... April 7. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:33, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
:::True. All we can do right now is guess and hope it comes out before we die. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:36, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

i dunno about you, but im not planning on dying next year --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:People seldom plan their death except in cases of suicide. And this is totally offtopic, so it should be stopped right here. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 22:49, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
::The anime is moving fast, so I don't know about this. Unless the developers hurry up and get the game to us, season 12 will begin without it. Already, Shaymin is being revealed, but Arceus won't be until the game is released. [[User:Bulbapedian|Bulbapedian]] - [[User talk:Bulbapedian|Talk]] 22:52, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Hehe... you guys took me too literally. I didn't really mean die. I meant we should hope it comes out in English and that the Japanses aren't selfish this time. BUT it already has an English release date, so we don't have to worry any more. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:38, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

== Possible release source ==

I dunno what you guys will think about this, but someone added to the WP article. [http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Pokemon-Platinum-Nintendo-DS-045496740177/sem/rpsm/oid/232753/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do] No idea how legit it is. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 05:14, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
:It was immediately removed from Wikipedia because retailers make up dates. However, I doubt things like the game's features (Wi-Fi Plaza, Distortion World) came from anywhere but Nintendo. Still, I'd wait for a press release directly from Nintendo.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 06:08, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
::Well, Mr Boss-Guy Echidna seems to think its accurate enough. Teh page iz protected :( Now trom can't edit — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 07:24, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Damn right it's protected. Plus, Circuit City did seem to get the info straight from Ninty. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:30, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Why are you guys doubting Circuit City? If the game's good enough for them to sell it, then why would they lie? [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:39, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
:From like, half an inch above: "It was immediately removed from Wikipedia because '''retailers make up dates'''." It doesn't seem to be the case ''here'', but it ''is'' the usual case.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 02:50, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I realized that after I re-read everything on here. I tend to miss things like that when I'm tired. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:08, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

== Um.... problem. ==

Why are we still saying the release date is good, yet the link doesn't work any more? And yeah, I realize that this contradicts what I said above this. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:43, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
:Now that's odd, they pulled the whole game from the site :S I certainly don't know whether to believe that date or not. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 21:46, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
::Stupid Nintendo... I think that Circuit City did that accidentally then. (Why are we on at the same time every day?) [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:52, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Sounds like someone is guilty of putting up something they shouldn't have... [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 03:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

I checked Nintendo.com and it does not mention any release date for Pokemon Platinum in the US. So I don't think the date mentioned is accurate. [[User:drichard08|drichard08]] 14:48, 10 December 2008
:Read the bulbanews article. it was shortly taken down[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

==now I'm confused==

ok everyone is saying platinum isn't {{tt|officially|can't remember how to spell it}} revealed, but I have this weeks and last weeks {{tt|oficial|still can't remember}} nintendo magazine and they have mentioned it in both [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 23:18, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:Everyone knows its revealed, we're just not taking any of the info the say other than the release date seriously as there are 3 different translations of the [[Torn World]] floating around. Offical [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 23:43, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Still wrong: official [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 11:34, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Spell check is your friend. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 19:51, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
:Ah the benefits of firefox. not that i use spell check though[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::The fact that Circuit City moved so fast to remove it lends credence to the release. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:22, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:::I personally agree, going back on what I said before, that it was most likely a mistake that it was revealed. Either by an overenthusiastic employee, or Nintendo decided too late to not reveal the dates yet. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 03:51, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

==The Cruel Irony==

Beckett was right. It was right about not only Ranger 2 coming out in Fall, but they knew that Platinum would come out in Spring 2009. And to think an unofficial fan magazine knew about it before it was even revealed in Japan... [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 23:05, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

:General consensus was that it would be out Spring 2009. It wasn't just reported by them, it was reported by practically everyone. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 23:36, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== Legendary encounters ==

If you read Pokemon.com's first english-texted picture of Pokémon Platinum,you will realize the text: "The Distortion World's Giratina appeared!"
Instead of the usual "wild so and so appeared!"!
I think that this will apply to all legendaries.
In my opinion it's a cool thing underlining the uniqueness of Giratina(and maybe other legendaries)

== Legendary encounters ==

If you read Pokemon.com's first english-texted picture of Pokémon Platinum,you will realize the text: "The Distortion World's Giratina appeared!"
Instead of the usual "wild so and so appeared!"!
I think that this will apply to all legendaries.
In my opinion it's a cool thing underlining the uniqueness of Giratina(and maybe other legendaries)
[[User:Uxie legend|Uxie http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/f/f8/Ani407MS.gif]] 13:20, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon Platinum Version

2008-12-18T13:20:15Z

Uxie legend: /* Legendary encounters */ new section

Xatu (Pokémon)

2008-12-16T18:34:02Z

Uxie legend: /* Physiology */

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Natu | next=Mareep }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Xatu |
jname=ネイティオ |
tmname=Natio |
image=178Xatu.png|size=130|
caption=Artwork from GSC |
pron=<sc>zah-too</sc>|
ndex=178 |
jdex=160 |
hdex=163 |
typen=2 |
type1=Psychic |
type2=Flying |
species=Mystic |
height-ftin=4′11″ |
height-m=1.5 |
weight-lbs=33.1 |
weight-kg=15.0 |
abilityn=2 |
ability1=Synchronize |
ability2=Early Bird |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Flying |
egggroup2= |
hatchsteps=5,120 |
effortyield=1 SpA, 1 Spd |
expyield=171 |
lv100exp=1,000,000 |
gender=both |
female=50 |
male=50 |
color=Green |
catchrate=75 |
body=09 |
pokefordex=xatu |
generation=2 |
footnotes=}}
'''Xatu''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ネイティオ''' ''Natio'') is a dual-type {{2t|Psychic|Flying}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolve]]s from {{p|Natu}} starting at [[level]] 25.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Xatu are green [[wp:Condor|condor-like]] Pokémon with long white wings that covers most of the Pokémon's front. Underneath its wings are designs that resemble eyes. It also possesses a long yellow beak and long red crest feathers. Its design is similar to a totem pole.
====Gender differences====
A male has one extra pair of yellow stripes.

====Special abilities====
Like most Psychic Pokémon, it possess psychic abilities. However, its specialty is that it has the ability to see into the future.

===Behavior===
Xatu tend to stand still all day, many theories have been thought up to explain this behavior. One such theory explains that it keeps seeing visions of the past and future, and that it doesn't move due to fears of these future visions coming true.

===Habitat===
[[Image:Forest.gif|left|frame|[[List of Pokémon by habitat#Forest Pokémon|Forest Pokémon]]]]

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:XatuNatuAnime.jpg|thumb|right|A Xatu and three Natu in ''[[Pokémon Heroes]]'']]Xatu first appeared under the ownership of {{Jo|Calista}}, a girl who could predict the weather in ''[[EP234|Xatu the Future]]''.

Xatu was seen in ''[[AG076|Me, Myself and Time]]'' under the ownership of another girl named {{ho|Calista}} who traveled back in time to give her younger self a message.

Xatu was seen starring in an outer-space version of the movie "{{wp|Titanic (1997 film)|Titanic}}" in ''[[AG086|Lights, Camerupt, Action]]''.

Xatu, along with three Natu, was used to signal the start of a Water Pokémon race in the movie ''[[Pokémon Heroes]]''.

==In the manga==
===In the Pokémon Special manga===
In {{PSV|14}}, [[Will]] uses a Xatu to fight {{Special|Green}} and {{Special|Silver}}.

By the events of the {{ho|Battle Frontier}} saga, {{Special|Crystal}}'s {{p|Natu}} has evolved into a Xatu.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Xatu (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
* [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]: Xatu lives on the Hill of the Ancients, located beyond the [[Great Canyon]]. Xatu is well regarded as a wise Pokémon with the ability to see into the future. The player first consults Xatu in an attempt to learn why they were turned into a Pokémon. Later on, it creates the Telport Gem to teleport the player to the [[Sky Tower]]. Xatu occasionally visits [[Pokémon Square]] for shopping and gave [[Meteor Cave]] its name on one of these trips.
* [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2]]: Xatu runs a shop in [[Treasure Town]] called Xatu's Appraisal. He opens boxes for 150 Poké per box.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=psychic
|type2=flying
|gen=2
|golddex=They say that it stays still and quiet because it is seeing both the past and future at the same time.
|silverdex=In South America, it is said that its right eye sees the future and its left eye views the past.
|crystaldex=Once it begins to meditate at sunrise, the entire day will pass before it will move again.
|rubydex=Xatu stands rooted and still in one spot all day long. People believe that this Pokémon does so out of fear of the terrible things it has {{m2|Future Sight|foreseen}} in the future.
|sapphiredex=Xatu is known to stand motionless while staring at the sun all day long. Some people revere it as a mystical Pokémon out of their belief that Xatu is in possession of the power to {{m2|Future Sight|see into the future}}.
|emeralddex=It has the enigmatic power of {{m2|Future Sight|foreseeing the future}}. Some people in different lands have long believed that Xatu are emissaries from another world.
|firereddex=In South America, it is said that its right eye sees the future and its left eye views the past.
|leafgreendex=They say that it stays still and quiet because it is seeing both the past and future at the same time.
|stadium2dex=They say that it stays still and quiet because it is seeing both the past and future at the same time.
|diamonddex=This odd Pokémon can see both the past and the future. It eyes the sun's movements all day.
|pearldex=This odd Pokémon can see both the past and the future. It eyes the sun's movements all day.
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=psychic |
gen=2 |
gsarea=[[Evolve]] {{p|Natu}} |
carea=[[Evolve]] {{p|Natu}} |
frlgarea=[[Evolve]] {{p|Natu}} |
rsrarity=Rare |
rsarea=[[Hoenn Safari Zone|Safari Zone]] |
erarity=Rare |
earea=[[Hoenn Safari Zone|Safari Zone]] |
xdarea=[[Evolve]] {{p|Natu}} |
dparea=[[Evolve]] {{p|Natu}} |
ptarea=[[Evolve]] {{p|Natu}} |
palarea=Forest |
}}

====In side games====
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{psychic color}};"
! Game
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire]]
| Evolve from {{p|Natu}}
|-
| [[Pokémon Trozei!]]
| Secret Storage 5 Mr. Who's Den
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (Red and Blue)]]
| Evolve from {{p|Natu}}
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (Time and Darkness)]]
| [[Spacial Rift]] (B1-B6)
|}

===Base stats===
{{BaseStats|
type=psychic |
type2=flying |
HP=65 |
Attack=75 |
Defense=70 |
SpAtk=95 |
SpDef=70 |
Speed=95 }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP Type effectiveness|
type1=psychic|
type2=flying|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting= 25 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 200 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 200 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 50 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 200 |

notes=yes|
flying=yes|
newground=1}}

===Learnset===
{{evolved learnset intro|Xatu}}
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|psychic|flying|4|2|Xatu}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Peck|Flying|Physical|35|100|35|Cool|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Leer|Normal|Status|—|100|30|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|6|Night Shade|Ghost|Special|—|100|15|Smart|3}}
{{mlentry4|9|Teleport|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|12|Lucky Chant|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|17|Miracle Eye|Psychic|Status|—|—|40|Cute|1}}
{{mlentry4|20|Me First|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|23|Confuse Ray|Ghost|Status|—|100|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|27|Tailwind|Flying|Status|—|—|30|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|30|Wish|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|37|Psycho Shift|Psychic|Status|—|90|10|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|42|Future Sight|Psychic|Special|80|90|15|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|47|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|60|100|5|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|54|Power Swap|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|54|Guard Swap|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|59|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{movelist/note|3|psychic|flying}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|Psychic|Flying|4|2|Xatu}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM04]]|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM16]]|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM19]]|Giga Drain|Grass|Special|60|100|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM22]]|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10|Cool|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM29]]|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM30]]|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM33]]|Reflect|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM40]]|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM45]]|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM46]]|Thief|Dark|Physical|40|100|10|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM47]]|Steel Wing|Steel|Physical|70|90|25|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM48]]|Skill Swap|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM51]]|Roost|Flying|Status|—|—|10|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM62]]|Silver Wind|Bug|Special|60|100|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM70]]|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM73]]|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM77]]|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM78]]|Captivate|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM85]]|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15|Smart|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM86]]|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM88]]|Pluck|Flying|Physical|60|100|20|Cute|0||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM89]]|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM92]]|Trick Room|Psychic|Status|—|—|5|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM02]]|Fly|Flying|Physical|95|90|15|Smart|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM05]]|Defog|Flying|Status|—|—|15|Beauty|2}}
{{movelist/note|4|psychic|flying}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{eggmoves|psychic|flying|4|2|Xatu}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Spearow}}, {{p|Fearow}} {{p|Doduo}}, {{p|Dodrio}}|Drill Peck|Flying|Physical|80|100|20|Cool|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Murkrow}}, {{p|Honchkrow}}|Faint Attack|Dark|Physical|60|—|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Pidgey}}, {{p|Pidgeotto}}, {{p|Pidgeot}} {{p|Chatot}}|FeatherDance|Flying|Status|—|100|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Zubat}}, {{p|Golbat}}, {{p|Crobat}} {{p|Murkrow}}, {{p|Honchkrow}}|Haze|Ice|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}}|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0|*}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Pidgey}}, {{p|Pidgeotto}}, {{p|Pidgeot}} {{p|Doduo}}, {{p|Dodrio}} {{p|Taillow}}, {{p|Swellow}} {{p|Wingull}}, {{p|Pelipper}} {{p|Starly}}, {{p|Staravia}}, {{p|Staraptor}}|Quick Attack|Normal|Physical|40|100|30|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Swablu}}, {{p|Altaria}}|Refresh|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Skarmory}}|Steel Wing|Steel|Physical|70|90|25|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Murkrow}}, {{p|Honchkrow}}|Sucker Punch|Dark|Physical|80|100|5|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Hoothoot}}, {{p|Noctowl}}|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{eggmoves/note|4|psychic|flying}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|psychic|flying|4|2|Xatu}}
{{mtentry4|Air Cutter|Flying|Special|55|95|25|Cool|3||'''|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Double-Edge|Normal|Physical|120|100|15|Tough|0|||yes|yes|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15|Smart|1||'''|yes|yes|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2|||no|yes|no|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Heat Wave|Fire|Special|100|90|10|Beauty|2|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Mimic|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0|||yes|yes|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Nightmare|Ghost|Status|—|100|15|Smart|2|||no|no|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|60|100|5|Smart|0|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0|||no|yes|no|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Signal Beam|Bug|Special|75|100|15|Beauty|2|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3|||no|yes|no|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cute|3|||no|yes|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1|||yes|yes|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Sucker Punch|Dark|Physical|80|100|5|Smart|2|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2|||no|yes|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2|||no|yes|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|20|Cool|2|||yes|yes|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Trick|Psychic|Status|—|100|10|Smart|0|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Twister|Dragon|Special|40|100|20|Cool|3|||no|no|no|no|yes|}}
{{mtentry4|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15|Beauty|2||'''|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4|psychic|flying}}

====Special moves====

===Side game data===
{{Side game|
type=psychic |
ndex=178 |
PinRSevo=yes |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=Evolve |
area=Flyaway Forest |
P1= All the yesterdays, today, and all tomorrows--they are as one! |
P2= Matters are grave... My health has fallen to half. |
P3= I am numb... I can see neither past nor future... |
PL= Leveled up! However... All levels are connected as one! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=no |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=-4.5% |
iq=F |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox/1|177|Natu|2|Psychic|Flying|[[Level|Level 25]]|178|Xatu|2|Psychic|Flying}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=psychic|
type2=flying|
gen=2|
gender=both|
ndex=178|
name=Xatu|
}}

==Trivia==
*Xatu currently is the only [[Pokémon]] whose name begins with the letter X.
*Xatu shares the same [[species]] name with {{P|Flygon}}. They are both known as Mystic Pokémon.
*The Xatu in [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]] sometimes speaks backwards similar to {{Wp|Yoda}}.
*Strangely, Xatu's {{Game3|Gold and Silver|Gold|s}} sprite appears to have an eye shaped marking on one of its wings. This is not seen on Xatu's official artwork and was later fixed in {{V2|Crystal}}.
===Origin===
It seems to draw inspiration from a {{wp|Native American}} {{wp|totem}}.
====Name origin====
Xatu's Japanese name appears to be a corruption of ''native''.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Xatu
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Xatu
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 네이티오 ''Neitio''

==External links==
* [[wp:Xatu|Article on Wikipedia]]

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Natu | next=Mareep }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[de:Xatu]]
[[Category:Pokémon that are part of a two-stage evolutionary line]]
[[ja:ネイティオ]]
[[pt:Xatu (pokémon)]]

Abomasnow (Pokémon)

2008-12-16T17:50:04Z

Uxie legend:

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Snover | next=Weavile }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Abomasnow |
jname=ユキノオー |
tmname=Yukinooh|
image=ArtYukinooh.png |
caption=Artwork from D/P |
pron=<sc>ah-boh-mah-''snow''</sc>|
ndex=460 |
sdex=143 |
adex=212 |
typen=2 |
type1=Grass |
type2=Ice |
species=Frost Tree |
height-ftin=7′03″ |
height-m=2.2 |
weight-lbs=298.7 |
weight-kg=135.5 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Snow Warning |
ability2= |
egggroupn=2 |
egggroup1=Monster |
egggroup2=Plant |
hatchsteps=5,120 |
effortyield=1 Atk, 1 SpA |
expyield=214 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gender=both |
female=50 |
male=50 |
color=White |
catchrate=60 |
body= 06|
pokefordex= |
generation=4 |
footnotes=}}
'''Abomasnow''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese:]] '''ユキノオー''' ''Yukinooh'') is a dual-type {{2t|Grass|Ice}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolve]]s from {{p|Snover}} starting at [[level]] 40.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
'''Abomasnow''' are large, white creatures covered in thick, white fur. Their feet and hands are dark green and they have short, dark green tails. As Abomasnow evolve from {{p|Snover}}, they grow two more green spikes on their backs for a total of four. These spikes resemble {{wp|mountain}}s or pinecones.Abomasnow have a bushy mustaches covering their mouths, light-purple eyes and large, bushy eyebrows that stick out like antennae.

====Gender differences====
The fur on a female's chest is thicker than it is on a male's.

====Special abilities====
Abomasnow have the ability to sense snow from miles away. Not only can they sense it, but when Abomasnow get too angry or form in packs, they have the ability to create high and low pressure in the air resulting in small snow storms. Also, Abomasnow's feet allow them to clutch into the ground. Therefore, even the harshest winds cannot blow this Pokémon down.

===Behavior===
Abomasnow are a tad short-tempered. They can become very territorial, and because of this, they live solitarily high atop cold, icy mountain caps so that they can have their space. They are also very stiff Pokémon both mentally and physically. Because of this, they are sometimes hard to manage.

===Habitat===
Abomasnow dwell on snowy mountaintops.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
Abomasnow appeared in ''[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''.

==In the manga==

==In the TCG==
{{main|Abomasnow (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=grass
|type2=ice
|gen=4
|diamonddex=It whips up {{M|blizzard}}s in mountains that are always buried in snow. It is the abominable snowman.
|pearldex=It blankets wide areas in snow by whipping up {{M|blizzard}}s. It is also known as "The Ice Monster."
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=grass |
gen=4 |
dprarity=Rare |
dparea=[[Mt. Coronet]] top |
}}

====In side games====
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{grass color}};"
! Game
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (Time and Darkness)]]
| Evolve from {{p|Snover}}
|-
| [[Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia]]
| [[The Ice Lake]]
|}

===Base stats===
{{BaseStats|
type=grass|
type2=ice|
HP=90 |
Attack=92 |
Defense=75 |
SpAtk=92 |
SpDef=85 |
Speed=60 }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=grass|
type2=ice|

Normal= 100 |
Fighting=200 |
Flying= 200 |
Poison= 200 |
Ground= 50 |
Rock= 200 |
Bug= 200 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 200 |

Fire= 400 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=50 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}

===Learnset===
{{learnset intro|Abomasnow}}
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|grass|ice|4|4|Abomasnow}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Ice Punch|Ice|Physical|75|100|15|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Powder Snow|Ice|Special|40|100|25|Beauty|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Leer|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Razor Leaf|Grass|Physical|55|95|25|Cool|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|5|Razor Leaf|Grass|Physical|55|95|25|Cool|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|9|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|13|GrassWhistle|Grass|Status|—|55|15|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|17|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|21|Mist|Ice|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|26|Ice Shard|Ice|Physical|40|100|30|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|31|Ingrain|Grass|Status|—|—|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|36|Wood Hammer|Grass|Physical|120|100|15|Tough|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|47|Blizzard|Ice|Special|120|75|5|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|58|Sheer Cold|Ice|Special|—|30|5|Beauty|0}}
{{movelist/note|4}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|grass|ice|4|4|Abomasnow}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM01]]|Focus Punch|Fighting|Physical|150|100|20|Tough|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM03]]|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM07]]|Hail|Ice|Status|—|—|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM09]]|Bullet Seed|Grass|Physical|10|100|30|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM13]]|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM14]]|Blizzard|Ice|Special|120|70|5|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM16]]|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM19]]|Giga Drain|Grass|Special|60|100|10|Smart|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM20]]|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM22]]|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10|Cool|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM23]]|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|100|75|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM26]]|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM30]]|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM31]]|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM39]]|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM45]]|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM52]]|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM53]]|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM56]]|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10|Tough|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM70]]|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM72]]|Avalanche|Ice|Physical|60|100|10|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM75]]|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM78]]|Captivate|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM80]]|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM86]]|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM04]]|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM06]]|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM08]]|Rock Climb|Normal|Physical|90|85|20|Cool|2}}
{{movelist/note|4}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{eggmoves|grass|Ice|4|4|Abomasnow}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Bulbasaur}}, {{p|Ivysaur}}, {{p|Venusaur}} {{p|Cubone}}, {{p|Marowak}} {{p|Kangaskhan}} {{p|Snorlax}} {{p|Hoppip}}, {{p|Skiploom}}, {{p|Jumpluff}} {{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}} {{p|Mudkip}}, {{p|Marshtomp}}, {{p|Swampert}} {{p|Aron}}, {{p|Lairon}}, {{p|Aggron}} {{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Grotle}}, {{p|Torterra}} {{p|Cranidos}}, {{p|Rampardos}} {{p|Shieldon}}, {{p|Bastiodon}} {{p|Gible}}, {{p|Gabite}}, {{p|Garchomp}}|Double-Edge|Normal|Physical|120|100|15|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Bulbasaur}}, {{p|Ivysaur}}, {{p|Venusaur}} {{p|Paras}}, {{p|Parasect}} {{p|Bellsprout}}, {{p|Weepinbell}}, {{p|Victreebel}} {{p|Tangela}}, {{p|Tangrowth}} {{p|Sunkern}}, {{p|Sunflora}} {{p|Seedot}}, {{p|Nuzleaf}}, {{p|Shiftry}} {{p|Shroomish}}, {{p|Breloom}} {{p|Roselia}}, {{p|Roserade}} {{p|Cacnea}}, {{p|Cacturne}} {{p|Tropius}} {{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Grotle}}, {{p|Torterra}} {{p|Cherubi}}, {{p|Cherrim}} {{p|Carnivine}}|Growth|Normal|Status|—|—|40|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Bulbasaur}}, {{p|Ivysaur}}, {{p|Venusaur}} {{p|Exeggcute}}, {{p|Exeggutor}} {{p|Tangela}}, {{p|Tangrowth}} {{p|Chikorita}},{{p|Bayleef}} , {{p|Meganium}} {{p|Hoppip}}, {{p|Skiploom}}, {{p|Jumpluff}} {{p|Sunkern}}, {{p|Sunflora}} {{p|Treecko}}, {{p|Grovyle}}, {{p|Sceptile}} {{p|Lotad}}, {{p|Lombre}}, {{p|Ludicolo}} {{p|Seedot}}, {{p|Nuzleaf}}, {{p|Shiftry}} {{p|Shroomish}}, {{p|Breloom}} {{p|Roselia}}, {{p|Roserade}} {{p|Cacnea}}, {{p|Cacturne}} {{p|Tropius}} {{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Grotle}}, {{p|Torterra}} {{p|Cherubi}}, {{p|Cherrim}} {{p|Carnivine}}|Leech Seed|Grass|Status|—|90|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Bulbasaur}}, {{p|Ivysaur}}, {{p|Venusaur}} {{p|Bellsprout}}, {{p|Weepinbell}}, {{p|Victreebel}} {{p|Chikorita}},{{p|Bayleef}} , {{p|Meganium}} {{p|Bellossom}} {{p|Treecko}}, {{p|Grovyle}}, {{p|Sceptile}} {{p|Roselia}}, {{p|Roserade}} {{p|Cacnea}}, {{p|Cacturne}} {{p|Tropius}} {{p|Cherubi}}, {{p|Cherrim}} {{p|Carnivine}}|Magical Leaf|Grass|Special|60|—|20|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Bulbasaur}}, {{p|Ivysaur}}, {{p|Venusaur}} {{p|Exeggutor}} {{p|Sunkern}}, {{p|Sunflora}} {{p|Shroomish}}, {{p|Breloom}} {{p|Cacnea}}, {{p|Cacturne}} {{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Grotle}}, {{p|Torterra}}|Seed Bomb|Grass|Physical|80|100|15|Smart|0||'''}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Slowking}} {{p|Exeggutor}} {{p|Lickitung}}, {{p|Lickilicky}} {{p|Rhyhorn}}, {{p|Rhydon}}, {{p|Rhyperior}} {{p|Kangaskhan}} {{p|Larvitar}}, {{p|Pupitar}}, {{p|Tyranitar}} {{p|Mudkip}}, {{p|Marshtomp}}, {{p|Swampert}} {{p|Whismur}}, {{p|Loudred}}, {{p|Exploud}} {{p|Aron}}, {{p|Lairon}}, {{p|Aggron}} {{p|Tropius}} {{p|Cranidos}}, {{p|Rampardos}}|Stomp|Normal|Physical|65|100|20|Tough|3}}
{{eggmoves/note|4}}
====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|Grass|Ice|4a|4|Abomasnow}}
{{mtentry4a|Ice Punch|Ice|Physical|75|100|15|Beauty|2||'''|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|Beauty|2||'''|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|120|100|15|Cool|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Seed Bomb|Grass|Physical|80|100|15|Smart|3||'''|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cute|3|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Synthesis|Grass|Status|—|—|5|Smart|0|||no|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4a}}

===Side game data===
{{Side game|
type=grass |
ndex=460 |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=-10% |
iq=E |
Ranger2=yes |
typeG2= Ice |
typeA2= Ice |
field2= Crush x3 |
browser2= It throws leaves to attack. It also summons blizzards. |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox/1|459|Snover|2|Grass|Ice|[[Level|Level 40]]|460|Abomasnow|2|Grass|Ice|}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=grass|
type2=ice|
gen=4|
gender=both|
ndex=460|
name=Abomasnow|
}}

==Trivia==
* Alongside its pre-evolution, {{p|Snover}}, as well as {{p|Exeggcute}}, {{p|Exeggutor}}, and {{p|Celebi}}, Abomasnow has the most weaknesses in the game, with 7 types super-effective against it.
* Abomasnow is the first Pokémon in alphabetical order, a title previously held by {{p|Abra}}.
* Abomasnow and Ludicolo, along with their pre-evolutions, are the only {{type2|Grass}} Pokémon not weak to {{type2|Ice}} moves, due to their secondary types.
* Out of all the {{type2|Grass}} Pokémon, Snover and Abomasnow are the only two that cannot learn {{m|Sunny Day}}.
*Its {{v2|Diamond and Pearl|s}} sprite is "fatter" than its {{v2|Platinum}} sprite.
**On that note, its Platinum sprite is similar to its [[Sugimori]] artwork.
*As of {{g|Platinum}}, Abomasnow is the only Ice-type Pokémon capable of learning {{m|Outrage}}, excluding {{p|Arceus}} when holding an [[Plates|Icicle Plate]].
===Origin===
Abomasnow appears to be based on a cross between an {{wp|evergreen tree}} covered in {{wp|snow}} and a {{wp|yeti}}.

====Name origin====
Abomasnow is a shortening of the name "Abominable Snowman", another name for the yeti. Yukinooh could mean 雪の王 ''yuki no ō'', snow king.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Rexblisar - From ''rex'' (Latin for "king") and ''blizzard''.
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Blizzaroi - From ''blizzard'' and ''roi'' (king).
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 눈설왕 ''Nunseolwang''

==External links==
*[[wp:Abomasnow|Article on Wikipedia]]

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Snover | next=Weavile }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Pokémon that are part of a two-stage evolutionary line]]
[[ja:ユキノオー]]
[[de:Rexblisar]]
[[pt:Abomasnow (pokémon)]]

Abomasnow (Pokémon)

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{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Snover | next=Weavile }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Abomasnow |
jname=ユキノオー |
tmname=Yukinooh|
image=ArtYukinooh.png |
caption=Artwork from D/P |
pron=<sc>ah-boh-mah-''snow''</sc>|
ndex=460 |
sdex=143 |
adex=212 |
typen=2 |
type1=Grass |
type2=Ice |
species=Frost Tree |
height-ftin=7′03″ |
height-m=2.2 |
weight-lbs=298.7 |
weight-kg=135.5 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Snow Warning |
ability2= |
egggroupn=2 |
egggroup1=Monster |
egggroup2=Plant |
hatchsteps=5,120 |
effortyield=1 Atk, 1 SpA |
expyield=214 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gender=both |
female=50 |
male=50 |
color=White |
catchrate=60 |
body= 06|
pokefordex= |
generation=4 |
footnotes=}}
'''Abomasnow''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese:]] '''ユキノオー''' ''Yukinooh'') is a dual-type {{2t|Grass|Ice}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolve]]s from {{p|Snover}} starting at [[level]] 40.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
'''Abomasnow''' are large, white creatures covered in thick, white fur. Their feet and hands are dark green and they have short, dark green tails. As Abomasnow evolve from {{p|Snover}}, they grow two more green spikes on their backs for a total of four. These spikes resemble {{wp|mountain}}s or pinecones Abomasnow have a bushy mustaches covering their mouths, light-purple eyes and large, bushy eyebrows that stick out like antennae.

====Gender differences====
The fur on a female's chest is thicker than it is on a male's.

====Special abilities====
Abomasnow have the ability to sense snow from miles away. Not only can they sense it, but when Abomasnow get too angry or form in packs, they have the ability to create high and low pressure in the air resulting in small snow storms. Also, Abomasnow's feet allow them to clutch into the ground. Therefore, even the harshest winds cannot blow this Pokémon down.

===Behavior===
Abomasnow are a tad short-tempered. They can become very territorial, and because of this, they live solitarily high atop cold, icy mountain caps so that they can have their space. They are also very stiff Pokémon both mentally and physically. Because of this, they are sometimes hard to manage.

===Habitat===
Abomasnow dwell on snowy mountaintops.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
Abomasnow appeared in ''[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''.

==In the manga==

==In the TCG==
{{main|Abomasnow (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=grass
|type2=ice
|gen=4
|diamonddex=It whips up {{M|blizzard}}s in mountains that are always buried in snow. It is the abominable snowman.
|pearldex=It blankets wide areas in snow by whipping up {{M|blizzard}}s. It is also known as "The Ice Monster."
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=grass |
gen=4 |
dprarity=Rare |
dparea=[[Mt. Coronet]] top |
}}

====In side games====
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{grass color}};"
! Game
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (Time and Darkness)]]
| Evolve from {{p|Snover}}
|-
| [[Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia]]
| [[The Ice Lake]]
|}

===Base stats===
{{BaseStats|
type=grass|
type2=ice|
HP=90 |
Attack=92 |
Defense=75 |
SpAtk=92 |
SpDef=85 |
Speed=60 }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=grass|
type2=ice|

Normal= 100 |
Fighting=200 |
Flying= 200 |
Poison= 200 |
Ground= 50 |
Rock= 200 |
Bug= 200 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 200 |

Fire= 400 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=50 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}

===Learnset===
{{learnset intro|Abomasnow}}
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|grass|ice|4|4|Abomasnow}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Ice Punch|Ice|Physical|75|100|15|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Powder Snow|Ice|Special|40|100|25|Beauty|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Leer|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Razor Leaf|Grass|Physical|55|95|25|Cool|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|5|Razor Leaf|Grass|Physical|55|95|25|Cool|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|9|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|13|GrassWhistle|Grass|Status|—|55|15|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|17|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|21|Mist|Ice|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|26|Ice Shard|Ice|Physical|40|100|30|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|31|Ingrain|Grass|Status|—|—|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|36|Wood Hammer|Grass|Physical|120|100|15|Tough|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|47|Blizzard|Ice|Special|120|75|5|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|58|Sheer Cold|Ice|Special|—|30|5|Beauty|0}}
{{movelist/note|4}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|grass|ice|4|4|Abomasnow}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM01]]|Focus Punch|Fighting|Physical|150|100|20|Tough|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM03]]|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM07]]|Hail|Ice|Status|—|—|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM09]]|Bullet Seed|Grass|Physical|10|100|30|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM13]]|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM14]]|Blizzard|Ice|Special|120|70|5|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM16]]|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM19]]|Giga Drain|Grass|Special|60|100|10|Smart|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM20]]|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM22]]|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10|Cool|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM23]]|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|100|75|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM26]]|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM30]]|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM31]]|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM39]]|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM45]]|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM52]]|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM53]]|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM56]]|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10|Tough|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM70]]|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM72]]|Avalanche|Ice|Physical|60|100|10|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM75]]|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM78]]|Captivate|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM80]]|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM86]]|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM04]]|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM06]]|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM08]]|Rock Climb|Normal|Physical|90|85|20|Cool|2}}
{{movelist/note|4}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{eggmoves|grass|Ice|4|4|Abomasnow}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Bulbasaur}}, {{p|Ivysaur}}, {{p|Venusaur}} {{p|Cubone}}, {{p|Marowak}} {{p|Kangaskhan}} {{p|Snorlax}} {{p|Hoppip}}, {{p|Skiploom}}, {{p|Jumpluff}} {{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}} {{p|Mudkip}}, {{p|Marshtomp}}, {{p|Swampert}} {{p|Aron}}, {{p|Lairon}}, {{p|Aggron}} {{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Grotle}}, {{p|Torterra}} {{p|Cranidos}}, {{p|Rampardos}} {{p|Shieldon}}, {{p|Bastiodon}} {{p|Gible}}, {{p|Gabite}}, {{p|Garchomp}}|Double-Edge|Normal|Physical|120|100|15|Tough|0}}
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===Side game data===
{{Side game|
type=grass |
ndex=460 |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=-10% |
iq=E |
Ranger2=yes |
typeG2= Ice |
typeA2= Ice |
field2= Crush x3 |
browser2= It throws leaves to attack. It also summons blizzards. |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox/1|459|Snover|2|Grass|Ice|[[Level|Level 40]]|460|Abomasnow|2|Grass|Ice|}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=grass|
type2=ice|
gen=4|
gender=both|
ndex=460|
name=Abomasnow|
}}

==Trivia==
* Alongside its pre-evolution, {{p|Snover}}, as well as {{p|Exeggcute}}, {{p|Exeggutor}}, and {{p|Celebi}}, Abomasnow has the most weaknesses in the game, with 7 types super-effective against it.
* Abomasnow is the first Pokémon in alphabetical order, a title previously held by {{p|Abra}}.
* Abomasnow and Ludicolo, along with their pre-evolutions, are the only {{type2|Grass}} Pokémon not weak to {{type2|Ice}} moves, due to their secondary types.
* Out of all the {{type2|Grass}} Pokémon, Snover and Abomasnow are the only two that cannot learn {{m|Sunny Day}}.
*Its {{v2|Diamond and Pearl|s}} sprite is "fatter" than its {{v2|Platinum}} sprite.
**On that note, its Platinum sprite is similar to its [[Sugimori]] artwork.
*As of {{g|Platinum}}, Abomasnow is the only Ice-type Pokémon capable of learning {{m|Outrage}}, excluding {{p|Arceus}} when holding an [[Plates|Icicle Plate]].
===Origin===
Abomasnow appears to be based on a cross between an {{wp|evergreen tree}} covered in {{wp|snow}} and a {{wp|yeti}}.

====Name origin====
Abomasnow is a shortening of the name "Abominable Snowman", another name for the yeti. Yukinooh could mean 雪の王 ''yuki no ō'', snow king.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Rexblisar - From ''rex'' (Latin for "king") and ''blizzard''.
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Blizzaroi - From ''blizzard'' and ''roi'' (king).
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 눈설왕 ''Nunseolwang''

==External links==
*[[wp:Abomasnow|Article on Wikipedia]]

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Snover | next=Weavile }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Pokémon that are part of a two-stage evolutionary line]]
[[ja:ユキノオー]]
[[de:Rexblisar]]
[[pt:Abomasnow (pokémon)]]

Talk:Power Gem (move)

2008-12-16T17:00:35Z

Uxie legend: /* Power Gem:Trivia Section */ new section

=Only one=
Should it be worth mentioning that Corsola is the only rock type to know this rock move??
[[User:Count Caterpie|Count]] [[User talk:Count Caterpie|Caterpie]] [[Image:Ani010MS.gif]] 01:02, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

== Possible Gen IV Game 3/Gen V change ==

Wouldn't it make sense that Dialga or Palkia learn Power Gem (you know, with what's on their chest)?--[[User:Kuki|The Man With the Broken Diamond]] 16:59, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

== Power Gem:Trivia Section ==

I think it should be noted that many Pokémon which seem to be bound to learn Power Gem,don't.For example:Uxie,Azelf and Mesprit:the gems on their foreheads are one of the most important physical traits!Same with Dialga and Palkia!
...Maybe they didn't want all Sinnoh main legends to know this move?
[[User:Uxie legend|Uxie http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/f/f8/Ani407MS.gif]] 17:00, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk:M12/Archive 1

2008-12-14T10:59:15Z

Uxie legend: /* Why Pichu? A couple intrepretations */

== Arceus ==

I'll clear one thing up before I kick off the main point of the message: I fully believe that a movie featuring Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, and Spear Pillar will feature Arceus. HOWEVER, in the blurb for PikaProj09 on the movie list article (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_movie) it is stated that the movie is "expected to feature Arceus." By whom? By whomever happened to write that sentence. I don't think that should be there until there is some actual proof beyond opinion. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]]
:Opinion... of 90% of the fandom. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:56, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Yes, but does that even matter? No doubt we will have it confirmed soon, we can readd it then. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 03:20, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
:Here is a photo that could help with proving Arceus is in the movie. The pic is from pokebeach but they only outlined part of what seems to be part of the "pointed ring" that is showed in the light.I circled the other parts. Looking at it from different angles, sometimes I think i can see its ears and a small part of its head. But that's what i think i saw so i didn't circle it. You can see it very well in the first pic. Since many people say that arceus is in the movie, I'd say this is very good proof.
[[Image:Arceus-comparison.jpg]]

Sorry it is so small as soon as I enlarge it, I will upload it.

Edit:
OK, so here is the enlarged pic, I know the arceus parts are faded, but you can still see the major parts.
[[Image:Arceus-comparison 2.jpg]]

Once I get the trailer, I will be able to upload a MUCH better and clearer picture.
[[User:Pikachugal|Pikachugal]] 02:22, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

:Calm down, friend. Arceus in this movie is too obvius. But IT IS UNCONFIRMED. We just have to wait for an official source --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]], <sc>[[User talk:Nick.|something to say?]]</sc> 02:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

I just saw the new trailer on the japanese website and i am absolutely entranced by the mysterious golden blur that appears for only like half a second in the middle of the video. [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Morgil/MysteriousGoldenBlur1.jpg] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Morgil/MysteriousGoldenBlur2.jpg] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Morgil/MysteriousGoldenBlur3.jpg] [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 20:56, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

==Naming==
You know, since we don't go moving around every episode to its English title... why don't we move all of the movies to Pikachu Project (year)? Anyone think it'd be a good idea? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:56, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

:I dunno, in my opinion it's a bad idea
:does that mean we change all the Pokémon to their national dex number too?----[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamatecharizard]] 22:46, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

== Think about it...Makes sense! ==

"''The producers went to Greece in August, 2008; this confirms the basis for the movie's setting.''"
And looking at the above posts about Arceus. Now, I know a little about Myths and things, and remember how many '''gods''' they had in Greece, back in days far gone? Anyone else think that setting a movie in a place were they were once many ''Mythological Gods'' would be a good place for the so called "''God Pokémon''"? C: Just a theory. [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]]| サソデイ 09:56, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

:Still doesn't make it official. Even if the odds point to Arceus being in the movie, we're waiting until Arceus is actually confirmed to appear in the movie to add that information. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:23, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
::Ah, I said it was 'just a theory' D: I never said it was official! [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]]| サソデイ 16:48, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:Then why does this page (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_movie) still talk about Arceus? May I please remove that? [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 03:22, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Bulbapedia is not for theories. And yes, that thing about Arceus should be removed. --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]], <sc>[[User talk:Nick.|something to say?]] </sc> 03:30, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

== New Pokemon Speculation. ==

Ok, Guys, I just want to say that, those of you still maintaining the site, I'll keep in the part on the Gen V Pokémon reveal speculation until December the 15th, only then, can we determine whether it should be kept in (As most of the info for the movie will be unveiled on that date.), if there is no mention of any Pokémon belonging to the new generation (not even showing a sihlouette, for that matter) then we must remove that tidbit. Got it? good. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 19:49, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

:didn't seribii say it was going to be tommorow? [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 20:39, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
::Strange... the article says that it's December 15th, Oh well... [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 20:58, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
:The default for any speculation is to take it out no matter how much of the fandom believes it, not to leave it an article just because we can't disprove it. You also can't disprove that Nintendo may reveal a Gen VI Pokémon on the same day, but since we have no proof we don't state it. I'm going to delete whatever it is you're talking about unless you can change my mind. [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 20:46, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
:: Can someone upload a picture of the unkown Pokémon siloette from DP104? <sc>I think thats the right Episode </sc> [[User:ShinyPikachu|ShinyPika <3 ALS]] 22:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
: Here are two pics of the electric type. One of them i added an arrow and circle to the part of the pokemon that was showing. I think these are good pics for the page. The original photo is from pokebeach.
[[Image:5th_generation_pokemon.jpg]] [[Image:5th_generation_pokemon_2.jpg]]

[[User:Pikachugal|Pikachugal]] 01:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

==is it just me?==

can anyone see the other pictures here? [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 20:39, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

:What images? If you're referring to the two links above, they were deleted for being copyright violations since they were stolen from [[Pokébeach]], one of them altered. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:28, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

== Eclipse ==

Check it out, the three legendary titans are battling during a total solar eclipse. I'll leave it to others to point out signifigance but it is noteworthy. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 23:18, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
:seeing how time and space are probably going to get ripped a new one in this movie that eclipse would be fitting [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 20:48, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

== Why Pichu? A couple intrepretations ==

*A. This Pichu is captured by Brock sometime soon.
*B. This Pichu is owned by the major human character of the film.
*C. This Pichu is {{AP|Pikachu}} before he was given to Ash. Edit: Since it has been confirmed that Pichu is female, it could be Ash's Pikachu's Mother.
*D. Just a wild Pichu that just so happens to be in the right place at the right time.
*E. Pichu is a manifestation of a portion of Arceus's powers/emotions that it sealed off
Edit: A friend pointed out E. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 22:32, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Those seem to be the only major possibilities, and I get the third from Space-''Time'' Void [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 22:27, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

:{{tt|Or it isn't actually Pichu, but a Poké that looks just like it.|Your ideas are better}} [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 22:29, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
::I actually like idea C. When do we get a release date for this thing? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::No idea. Hmm... I gotta wonder why it has that spiky ear though... maybe they're lieing and it WILL be a gen V Pokémon! *Laughs at self* [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 01:49, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Maybe it is one of the [[Pichu Bros.]] and the other one was lost due to the fighting between the Dragon Trio, and this one is looking for his lost brother. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:51, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Except for the fact that it looks nothing like one of the Pichu Bros. And before you say it, the distortion could have changed his ears? I don't think so. Anyways, I figured C. would be the favorite, its the one I'm rooting for. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 01:58, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::Maybe Dawn captures the Pichu. She's already somewhat like Ash already, what with the disobedient Mamoswine, the unevolved, overshown, initially unfriendly starter, the seeing a legendary at the start of her journey, need I go on? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 02:06, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::It is important to point out that ''nobody'' ever captures a Pokémon in the movies, so Brock or Dawn capturing it is probably very unlikely to happen. Personally, I back up the thought of it being [[Ash's Pikachu]] from the past (as [[Dialga]] controls time. - [[User:ElectricArbok|ElectricArbok]] 18:35, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
(Resetting indent)@ {{u|ElectricArbok}}: Yes, but Ash's Pikachu does not have spiked ears. Why would an abnormality like that change? [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 17:39, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:It changed when (s)he evolved. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 17:52, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::What I meant was "Why would an abnormality like that change when it evolved?" It's possible but unlikely. (Shiny Pokémon stay shiny, for instance.) [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 17:58, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Serebii.net pointed out since the Pichu was confirmed to be a female, it may hint more gender differences in Generation V. - [[User:ElectricArbok|ElectricArbok]] 12:13, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Or maybe even G/S remakes. They might roll out some new gender differences there, if they ever comes to be...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 19:16, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Yes, I know. I mean, if they could give Rotom, Shaymin, and Giratina new forms within the same generation that they were introduced in with different games, whose to say they can't add in a few gender differences in two different games of the same generation, anyways? [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 21:05, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
:::But then that would mean that this Pichu isn't all that special. Is that gonna happen? Most likely not (Also, subpoint: why would there be different gender difference for different regions? That doesn't happen in the real world.) [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 22:20, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm sure that this Pichu has something special,or is that itself.And I don't mean the notched ears![[User:Uxie legend|Uxie http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/f/f8/Ani407MS.gif]] 10:59, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

== Posters ==

I have the posters needed for this article. And can someone look at the website? They have the specific reading for the kanji now.

<gallery>
Image:Movie12 Poster.jpg|''Toward Overcoming the Space-Time Void'' movie poster
Image:Promo PokemonMovie12.JPG|''Pikachu the Movie'' poster
</gallery>

:Uhm, that Pichu clearly has two ears. One is just partially obscured by Pikachu's head. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 18:06, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::who said anything to the contrary? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 18:15, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::I dunno, I think I saw something on the forums where people were saying it only had one ear or something...but I could have been half-asleep and misreading everything, it's happened before, haha. Anyway, another point that nobody seems to have pointed out yet, the Pichu is on the poster for the Pikachu short, not the movie itself, so it's useless to speculate about what role it might have in the movie. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 18:23, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::You make a good point there... there is no actual confirmation that the Pichu is the Pokémon that was hidden. {{tt|Gen V. is back on!|Perhaps}} [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 18:36, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, I didn't quite say that... There's an overwhelming amount of evidence that the Pichu was indeed the hidden Pokémon, although why they'd want to make a Pichu a "surprise" is beyond me... [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 18:48, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Look at its eyes. They're the same brown as {{tt|another Pokémon on that poster|speculation, speculation...}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:58, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

== Nintendo Owned Everyone (Including Me) ==
[[User:LordArceus/"5th Gen"|Nintendo is amazing.]] {{unsigned|LordArceus}}
:Whoops. [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 17:40, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::I must say, they're total jerks for that. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:06, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

== Percent chance of Galactic, importantly Cyrus, appearing? ==

100%? Less? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:31, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:I don't know if they are going to appear in the movie since something like this hasn't happened since the first movie. I could be wrong anyway. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 21:35, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::Considering the fact that Galactic has already appeared in the series and the writers seem to be giving them more screen time/development than most previous teams (relative to their importance in the game, I mean), I feel it's at least worth a second thought that Cyrus will probably appear later in the series instead of in this movie; either that, or the writers are finally going to abandon their unspoken policy of keeping movie canon (mostly) separate from series canon. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 21:44, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::They've got the Spear Key, Adamant and Lustrous Orbs. Movie 12 obviously takes place in an area inspired by Greece (Spear Pillar) and features Arceus. They know we were disappointed in the hour special they laid out for Groudon and Kyogre, so they want to remedy it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:08, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::::But usually stories like these culminate in the series not in a movie. Bar the first one, Movies and series are most of the time entirely disjoined. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 22:13, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::But like I said, the writers have been pretty ambitious this series--maybe they've decided to go ahead and tie a theatrical release directly to the show. I just think we need to weigh both possibilities equally and not assume that Cyrus will be in it just because the dragon trio will be (and possibly Arceus) until we get more information. Although, they could settle for a happy medium of sorts, something like having Cyrus appear in the movie but never in the series, and just have the Galactic admins make allusions to him in the series. I think it's pretty up-in-the-air right now; considering the fact that the previous two movies have involved members of the dragon trio without involving Cyrus, it's not like it would be impossible for them to pull off a movie featuring them and Arceus and not include Cyrus. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 22:27, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Did they appear in the first two? Survey says: Nope! The battle has nothing to do with Cyrus and his flunkies anyway [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 22:32, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::You know that Cyrus's debut wasn't till AFTER the movie premiered, right?- ''unsigned comment from [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:::::That's true...didn't consider that. But I still think it's possible for them to pull off a plot about the dragon trio and Arceus without him. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 22:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Meh, never stopped them before [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 22:47, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Cynthia

2008-12-10T20:34:14Z

Uxie legend: /* Quotes */

==If Ash and co. met Lucian...==
If Ash and co. met [[Lucian]], it was likely they'll meet Cynthia later in the anime. And I was right, because Cynthia is scheduled to make her first anime appearance in [[DP040]]!

User FREAKAZOID

== Garchomps gender? ==

based on gender differences, what gender is her garchomp? --[[User:Deuxhero|Deuxhero]] 02:18, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:Female. All of Cynthia's Pokémon are female EXCEPT for her Lucario. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]][[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]] 05:39, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
::I think they mean in the anime...? --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 05:58, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Its still a female. No groove in the fin. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]][[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]] 06:01, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

== Quotes ==

In the quotes section, it says:

Before battle: 
''"One look at you tells me many things about you. Together, you and your Pokémon overcame all the challenges you faced, however difficult. It means that you've triumphed over any personal weaknesses, too. The power you learned... I can feel it emanating from you. That's enough talking. Let's get on with why you're here. I, Cynthia, accept your challenge as the Pokémon League Champion! There won't be any letup from me!"''

OR

''"Have you been keeping well? Thank you for Mt. Coronet. I'm truly grateful. Together, you and your Pokémon overcame all the challenges you faced, however difficult. It means that you've triumphed over any personal weaknesses, too. The power you learned... I can feel it emanating from you. But that's enough talk. Let's get on with why you're here. As the Pokémon League Champion, I accept your challenge!"''

What do they mean, "OR"? Doesn't she always say the same thing? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|Contribs]][[Image:Ani164MS.gif]] 21:57, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I think that she says the Mt.Coronet thing only when the player didn't beat the Elite Four yet.She doesn't say that to me!
[[User:Uxie legend|Uxie]] 20:34, 10 December 2008 (UTC)Uxie Legend

== what the...? ==

whats with the line going across the page?
uhh....[[User:Kpokefan|Kpokefan]] (cuz i dont know how to make the special little signatures
:What line? [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{Ani|281}} 17:08, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

== Cynthia + Rayquaza?? ==
apparently, in an episode, Cynthia is shown commanding a [[Rayquaza]]. it can be viewed [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e88ROwzgUOE here]. →[[User:Thomas1652]]
:But it was in a dream. She doesn't really own that Pokémon. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 17:51, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
::aaaahh, thank you for clearing that up for me. =) →[[User:Thomas1652]]
i thought that the Rayquaza she was commanding was just an illusion, someone added it. Is it ok to take it out? [[User:Boywonder01|'''Boy''']][[User talk:Boywonder01|'''wonder''']][[Special:Contributions/Boywonder01|'''01''']] 08:25, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
:::*Sigh*.....I'll take it out.....--{{Ani|155}}{{Ani|476}}'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Sandbox|2]]'''{{Ani|473}}[[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 19:50, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Oh! Someone took it out already.....--{{Ani|155}}{{Ani|476}}'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Sandbox|2]]'''{{Ani|473}}[[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 19:51, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

== elite four ==

what do the elite four and the league champ actually do in the anime?[[User:Samrulz123|Samrulz]][[User talk:Samrulz123|123]][[Image:Ani151MS.gif]] 04:23, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
:Wait around to appear in an episode. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 06:42, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
I always figured that in order to challenge the elite four you had to win the league tournament. We may never know [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 11:29, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Cynthia also looks like the character(dont know her name) who trasform's in this video:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=I50GGdQCQDs&NR=1

--[[User:Zakuro x Cynthia|[[Image:Ani492MS.gif]] Zakuro]] 08:58, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

== lucario ==

Does anybody else think those things in her hair look like the thing on lucario's head.I think this could mean that lucario is her main pokémon in the games (and possibly anime but not sure) [[User:Darkmaster0]]
:I always thought the things in her hair resembled a {{p|Garchomp}}....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 11:13, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
::It does look more like {{p|Lucario}}'s hair-type-thing, but her Garchomp is her strongest pokémon and they ,usually, are the trainer's signature pokémon. Phocks.

== Chi ==

Chi and Fei are identical twins and Chi is the main chatterer, so way dos she look like Fei and not Chi? [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 12:53, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:What in the name of Hans Christian Anderson do you mean? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''13:05 18 Jun 2008'''''
::Probably another "character similarity" thing. God, I'm sick of them. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:44, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:::...''who'' is Fei? The twins' names are Erda (Chi) and Freya (black Chi).--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 16:10, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
::::And the "Freya and not Chi" thing probably has to do with the black gothic clothing? Just maybe.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 16:11, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about the mix up in the name. Thay still look the same and I don't get it? [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 00:21, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

:Is the statement even necessary? The accompanying link doesn't even have a picture and I've never even heard of the character. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:49, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
::I'm really sick of those "similarities". We've got too many of them and most of them don't even look similar. I say, DELETE ALL "SIMILARITY" NOTES! --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 07:14, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

:::I agree. It's like "Oooh! One anime character looks like another! We should put that in!!" It's not all that notable. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 13:56, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I think this one is notable if any of them are. The have the same eyes, the same face. Clair even has hair things that look like Chi's ear's. If you ask me this one is intentional [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 14:41, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
:I assume we're referring to Chobits here. Anyway, I did think Cynthia looked a bit like a Persicom on first impression, and her very long hair and black clothes are reminiscent of Freya, but I wouldn't say this is particularly relevant to Bulbapedia. [[User:Punkrockrevel|Punkrockrevel]] 16:58, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

== Dream Rayquaza (Please don't ignore this) ==

If we include her Rayquaza, shouldn't we include the Piplup, Chimchar, and Turtwig from {{an|Dawn}}'s [[DP001]] dream? If you agree with me, please make the table, cuz remember, I don't know how!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 20:20, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

:That was more of Dawn daydreaming that she had those Pokémon. Plus, it wasn't appearant to the characters at first that they were dreaming when Cynthia had a Rayquaza. I don't know, maybe Rayquaza shouldn't count... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 20:26, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

But it was still a dream Pokémon, just saying--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:22, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
:Ash. Kanto starters. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:02, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

No, he woke up to the Gengar/Nidorino battle, remember?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 23:19, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

:No he didn't... He was watching that on T.V. the night before he left on his journey. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:22, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

But the Kanto starters in the dream [[Ash's Bulbasaur|manifested]] [[Ash's Charizard|them]][[Ash's Squirtle|selves]] into reality. And what about May commanding Mudkip in [[AG001]]?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 23:28, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah but that's not what I was talking about. You said he woke up to the battle of Nidorino and Gengar, which he didn't.
:Back to the subject about dream Pokémon, just because Ash got all the starters he dreamed about doesn't mean that everyone gonna get the Pokémon they've dreamed about. These stupid dream Pokémon shouldn't even be mentioned. Especially not the ones in Dawn's dream. What about all those Pokémon that Meowth always dreams Giovanni has in his dreams. Are we gonna mentioned those now? --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:34, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

[[Boss fantasy|Already have a page for that]]--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 23:36, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well that's merely a section of the boss fanasy article. Doesn't mean that other people should have dream Pokémon mentioned. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:39, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

== Color ==

Why is her table color white? It blends with the background. Wouldn't black/a shade of gray be better? [[User: Tc26|'''tc''']][[User talk: Tc26|'''2''']][[Special: Contributions/Tc26|'''6''']] 02:00, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
:Likely. Pick one. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:53, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Weavile (Pokémon)

2008-11-18T20:18:42Z

Uxie legend:

Why are we still using the artwork from CoroCoro. We have the Sugimori's DP artwork we should use it, I think.

== Dark Wave - Unconfirmed and likely to be fake. ==

This new attack "Dark Wave" was reported on Blue SkY Blog, right. It first reported the names of new starters (it was real information). But it recently became infamous of posting FAKE informations. One of them first leader's name, Zack. He was revealed to be named Hyouta few days. And second is three fake Pokémon Names (Marsula, Garinan, Samusamu). There is no sign about these Pokémon and one of the infamous Fake Pokémon was named "Samu" (only two final characters of the name can be seen). So, the most recent informations on this blog are likely to be fake. And they're still unconfirmed. So, they should be removed from Bulbapedia until official announce of the attacks (It will prove if it's real or fake). The Blue SkY Blog is no longer a reliable source! - Maxim (Sorry for bad grammar, I am not native english speaker)

It's called {{m|Dark Pulse}} --{{u|Stinkoman}}

Why did you bother answering? It was written in 2006!
[[Image:Ani154MS.gif|32px]]'''[[User:Netto-kun|Netto]]-[[User talk:Netto-kun|kun]]'''[[Image:Ani394MS.gif|32px]] 15:12, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

== Weavile's German name ==

What's with the word "bunny" in its name in German? (And also Weavile looks more cat than weasel to me.)
:* [[User:Evil Sonic|Evey]] [[Image:Ani134MS.gif]][[User talk:Evil Sonic|☆]] 22:34, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

It's either Hase(Rabbit) or Kaninchen(Bunny),if you want to be specific
[[User:Uxie legend|Uxie]] 20:18, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

== Sucker Punch...? ==

I think it's absolutely strange that Sneasel and Weavile can't learn {{m|Sucker Punch}} when such a move is right up their alley. They're speedy, they're Dark, and they're capable of learning {{m|Ice Punch}}, {{m|Focus Punch}}, and so on. [[User:SharKing|SharKing]] 20:50, 4 September 2008 (UTC)SharKing

User talk:Uxie legend

2008-11-18T20:07:38Z

Uxie legend:

User talk:Uxie legend

2008-11-18T20:06:00Z

Uxie legend:

Talk:Sceptile (Pokémon)

2008-11-18T19:06:48Z

Uxie legend: /* Sceptile's Tail */ new section

Is this pronounced as in 'sceptic' or more like 'septic'? Perhaps specifying pronunciation for Pokémon species where it's not obvious would be useful. [[User:Punkrockrevel|Punkrockrevel]] 13:22, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
:I say "sep-tile." '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 06:49, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

== Fastest Starter? ==

Out of all the starting pokemon, wouldn't Sceptile be the fastest with a base stat of 120? Just wondering. --Nidokingdood
:Well, Scepty's an evolution of a starter... but I do think you're right that base-stat-wise, it is the fastest of all final forms. Why not check it out. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 23:23, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::I think Sceptile and Infernape are like, the only fast starters. Kinda sucks. Infernape has a base Speed stat of 108 (Or something.) so that'd make Sceptile the fastest. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 23:26, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

== english name suggestion ==

Logically the name of the final evolution would follow the same rules as the previous forms. In this case plant-reptile compound word. there is a type of plant known as a scepa, or a scepinae. this seems more likely to be the true inspiration than the current etymology for sceptile.

Not quite what the guy above is talking about, but it fit under this header. Anyways, to expand upon the "based on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sceptridium|''Sceptridium'']" theme, does anyone else think that the yellow balls on Sceptile's back are somewhat reminiscent of Sori? Just my take on that. - [[User:Zeofar|Zeofar]] 03:13, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

== Sceptile's Tail ==

Well,I think that it's tail is rather based of a pine tree than a palm tree.Palm tree leaves have rather different formations.Well,that's how I look at it.

PS:Everyone I know(including me)says SKEP-TILE

Talk:Battle Frontier (Generation IV)/Sinnoh

2008-11-13T17:55:33Z

Uxie legend: /* Names of the new Frontier Brains */ new section

==Battle Zone==

Why does this site refer to it as replacing the Battle Zone? According to new maps, the Battle Zone is still there, and this will just take place of the Battle Park.

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 03:43, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

== hint to GSDS? ==

Its gonna be set in Johto as in Gen 3 they visited Kanto again in the anime like the games did so Gen 4 will have to put frontier in a region and the only one left is Johto, if they are plannig to go to Johto again in the game they will in the anime as the 2 are linked. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 13:06, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
:That was hard to understand but you're saying this may be evidence for a GSDS? Probably already on that page. And at any rate, it is NOT for sure that there WILL BE a GSDS. It may come in the next generation. If you do the math, this would that Gen V would have to make remakes of Hoenn and Kanto. Gen 7 would have to make 3 remakes. Gen 9 would make 4. It's exponentially increasing. (PS, I hope Pokémon makes it to 9 generations) [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 14:13, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::Not really. If they don't dump compatibility with Gen I-IV in Gen V, there'd be no need for remakes. The reason why FRLG came about was because of the lack of compatibility between Gen I/II and III. Same would be for GSDS. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:43, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
:::...and if thinking just a LITTLE, that arguments makes no sense. Why do you think they added the legendary birds and golems for capturing in Hoenn, for example? Wondered if that it's because MANY players owns DPPt, but NOT R/S/E/FR/LG, making it HARD for them to capture the Hoenn, Kanto OR Johto Pokémon, unless SOME of them where added to Platinum? And that they STILL NEVER CAN complete the PokéDex, UNLESS GSDS IS RELEASED, WITH AN EXTENCTION OF THE SEVII ISLANDS AND OTHER LOCATIONS. Why do you even THINK they made DP compatible with JOHTO-GAMES FOR THE FIRST, IF THE ''NEVER'' PLANNED TO RELEASE ANY? And yes, the Battle Frontier DOES INDEED confirm that Johto WILL RETURN. Because, if I'm not all wrong, thinking that they choose to have the PREVIOUS in the series, WILL lead to having the NEW one, with ASH attending it. And my very certain that they won't place it in either Kanto, Hoenn or Sinnoh as they've been explored more recently, and we can dream of the Orange Aerchipelago, Sevii Islands or Orre, with leaves Johto as the ONLY answer. And remember; Orange Aerchipelago where created as a FILLER between Kanto and Johto, IN THE ANIME AND MANGA ONLY, so excepting it, EVERY region explored in the anime, EVEN TWICE, have also been explored so many times in the games and manga. {{u|Pokémon Lover King Mario}}
::::#This conversation is nearly two months old at this point. I don't think there's much of a point yelling about things we didn't even KNOW back then, like the legendary birds.
::::#This belongs more in the forums (where, by the way, I've already made a post to this effect, only without the caps and anime stuff).
::::#CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL. LET US ALWAYS COMMUNICATE USING CAPS LOCK AND NEVER LET ANYONE TELL US OTHERWISE. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 20:27, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

== Why? ==

Why is this called Battle Frontier? tc26 06:43, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
:Same reason that the Hoenn one is? Look on the Platinum site for "バトルフロンティア", that's the Japanese for it. It's why we knew the Sinnoh Battle Tower was the Battle Tower. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:16, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
:Heck, in that gif of screenshots, it says right in there, "WELCOME TO THE BATTLE FRONTIER!" '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:17, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
ANOTHER?! Where's the location in the anime now?! I mean, what's so wrong with just having one Battle Frontier? Anyway, I got a good feeling what the plot device is in Season 12...[[User:Paul'sDialga|Paul'sDialga]] (John 01:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC))

== image shape ==

the shape of the image we have indicates that it will fit in the battle park area, therefore it is possible that it will just be translated as an "improved battle park". lord mada 09:14, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

== Prinplup head? ==

It looks kinda like Swampert's head as well. At least, that's what I thought the first time I saw the artwork for it. Which do you think fits more?

== Theories on the other facilities. ==

1) The Castle-like structure might be the equivalent of the Battle Palace (in Hoenn).

== Head Brain ==

Pun aside, is it Palmer or Kate? There seems to be some confusion on that issue. I personally think, because Palmer remains animated at the end of the battle and following from Anabel, that he is the leader. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 05:19, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

== Names of the new Frontier Brains ==

Probably people realized,all japanese names of these people are the names of Plants!With the exception of Palmer ,who was introduced in D/P.But Palmer's name,besides the similarity to his son's name,Pearl;is similar to Palm tree.It's as if Nintendo knew about the new Battle Frontier long time ago...

Talk:Lucas (game)

2008-10-30T11:15:48Z

Uxie legend: /* Lucas is holding a Repeat Ball */ new section

He is supposed to be named Daiya. The default name for male DP Character is Daiya (Dia)! Fans didn't call him Daiya for no reason. "Kouki" is one of optional names like "Ash" for Red or "Hiro" for Gold. Brendan and May are named Brendan and May not Ruby and Sapphire because they weren't named Ruby and Sapphire in the game. In the game default names for them were Brendan and May. But in D/P, characters are named after game (Daiya and Pearl). The names that come from Game Editions are considered as default. No one calls Red Ash. So, why do we call Daiya Kouki? D/P continues to name characters after game!

== Needed point of reversing! ==

What's the point of moving Daiya back to Kōki?

Because the situation is exactly the same as Ruby and Sapphire. But you wouldn't know that, since you don't play the game. Check your facts first. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 22:39, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

So, when you choose a certain gender character the opposite gender character will be defautly named Kouki/Hikari. I understand now. Sorry, I don't have the game. I saw many screens from official sources that show character's name as Daiya/Pearl and since the names are from game editions I considered them as default. But I see I wasn't right. Ah well. - Maxim

== Partner Pokemon ==

Does Kouki use Clefairy too, if you're playing as the girl? --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 03:11, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, he does. --[[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 14:54, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

In the second battle as a Partner, both Kouki and Hikari use a Level 25 Kadabra and the mid stage evolution of the starter at level 28 (Hayashigame, Moukazaru or Pottaishi.) as well as the Level 25 Clefairy. --[[User:JaffaJHDA|JaffaJHDA]] 17:53, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

== Lucas ==

in this video http://www.gamespot.com/pages/video_player/popup.php?pid=925601&sid=6169196&tab=related&tag=videos;related;1 the character's name is spelled with a c not a k, so i'm moving it.--[[User:DSDark|DSDark]] 16:19, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Of course his name is "Lucas" with "c", who in the planet spell "Lukas" with "k"?? Come on!
[[User:Haruka uzumaki|Haruka uzumaki]] 15:58, 24 September 2007
:This is from April 17, before the official English game was out. >> Pay attention.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:18, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

== Birthday ==

Today is my birthday. When I spoke to Lucas, instead of talking about the Poke Radar like he usually does, he asked if it was my birthday and congratulated me when I said yes.
This is probably because of the DS feature where you enter your birthday; I tried putting my sister's game in my DS and the same thing happened.

I'd be willing to bet that [[Dawn (game)]] does the same thing, but I don't have any male files to confirm it.
I just thought it was pretty neat; nothing important but maybe it could be added under "Trivia".

Happy Birthday!--[[User:Dawnfan47|Dawn]][[User Talk:Dawnfan47|fan47]]

:Dawn does the same thing, I already tried. And by the way, happy birthday! [[Image:Ani282MS.gif|32px]]'''[[User:Netto-kun|Netto-kun]]''' [[User talk:Netto-kun|Talk]][[Image:Ani445MS.gif|32px]] 21:30, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

== Movie 11 Appearance? ==

Is this true? GIMME PROOF!!!! I WANT PROOF!!!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 23:10, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:How if the movie Isn't Online Yet!?!?--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 01:22, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, it's true. Lucas appears at the begining, battling against BRENDAN!!! ((I read it in the reviews :D) --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]] 01:32, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Was he wearing his Emerald outfit? That should be mentioned if he was. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 03:46, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Yeah, he was. I saw a little video and I saw him with Emerald outfit :) --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]] 02:47, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
And like TTE said how come Leaf has never appeared!?!--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 05:02, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
:No, Leaf has never appeared TwT. I want to see her :( --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]] 16:29, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

== Lucas is holding a Repeat Ball ==

The Sugimori art Lucas in Platinum shows him holding a Repeat Ball,as this game is a comeback of Sinnoh.This should be added to the trivia.What do you think?

User talk:Uxie legend

2008-08-05T12:24:06Z

Uxie legend: Replacing page with '*I'm tiny *I have a yellow helmet *My eyes can't open since an accident involving superglue 132 years ago *I'm the most intelligent creature in the whole Universe *Im so light ...'

*I'm tiny
*I have a yellow helmet
*My eyes can't open since an accident involving superglue 132 years ago
*I'm the most intelligent creature in the whole Universe
*Im so light even gust attack from a Beautifly could blow me right up to the hall of Origin
*If I open my eyes you'll forget everything except that you are a piece of meat

Talk:Arceus (Pokémon)/Archive 1

2008-08-05T12:03:28Z

Uxie legend:

Um, {{u|TTEchidna}}, you put down that Arseus can become an ???-type Pokémon by holding a ??? Plate. Where'd you get that from?--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 21:35, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Man u have got to be kidding me Arceus catch rate should not be 3. I used my Action replay to get the item 4 arceus then i went and caought it on my 5th dusk ball. My friend caought it on him 1st ultra ball. Another friend i gave the item 2 caught it on his 2nd qiuck ball.
:Man, you have to be kidding me, you can't even spell the word "you" right. Arceus's catch rate is 3. If you'll notice, those balls multiply the catch rate formula by quite a bit, which greatly increases the chance to be caught. Plus, it's all on luck, I've had Magikarp break out of balls before. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 22:36, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

I added an alternative origin to Arceus's name that I found on: http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=286767.[[User:Draconium|Draconium]] 23:42, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

==Is there a point...==
Is there a point of having a table for each of the plates when it is attached to Arceus?
We could just have Arceus without a plate, and then have each title with an image and a sentence saying what type Arceus changes to.
For Example:

==Type effectiveness==
[[Image:493Arseus.png|thumb|right|Sprite for {{type2|Normal}} Arceus]]
===No plate equipped===
{{DP type effectiveness|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=200 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 0 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}
[[Image:Spr 4d 493-Fire.png|thumb|right|Sprite for {{type2|Fire}} Arceus]]
===With Flame Plate===
When the Flame Plate is attached to Arceus, it becomes a Fire type.

etc... [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 23:06, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

==Picture==
I have this picture:

[[Image:Arceus.PNG]]

I did not draw it. I want to use it on the page. It is much better than trying to stare at a tiny sprite. --[[User:Stinkoman|Stinkoman]] 15:08, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

:Better than a sprite for sure, but it'd be nice if we could find one without such bad compression artifacts. [[User:Invisible Shiny Bulbasaur|Invisible Shiny Bulbasaur]] 22:30, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
::I don't think we should really be using an unofficial image for the page. What would be nice is if somebody could get a nice, high-quality (as in NOT a photo of the monitor) screenshot of ARceus from PBR.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:22, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
:::You mean hack an Arceus and copy it into PBR?
[[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]][[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|Agent]] [[Gallade (Pokémon)|448]][[User talk:Optimus35|Talk]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&Pearl|DP]]''' [[Image:Fighting-attack.png|Fighting]] 11:46, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

== Sprites? ==

Should we include separate sprite templates for all of the forms, or just do it for one? I know that Unown and Castform, among others, would serve the same problem. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 22:10, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

== Art?! ==

I'd like to know the source of Arceus' picture. Mainly because it hasn't been revealed yet. TinaTheKirlia 02:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:It's a piece of fanart. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 02:47, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::That's what I thought, although there was an edit that said "Official Art" or something and it was rather confusing. TinaTheKirlia 16:29, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
I think we should replace that art with a sprite. It seems inaccurate... Mariocaper 19:19, 20 September 2007

Yeah, and we could enlarge the size of the sprite so it won't be that tiny anymore, right? [[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]]http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani475.gif '''[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35]][[User talk:Optimus35|Talk]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&Pearl|DP]]''' [[Image:Fighting-attack.png|Fighting]] 06:45, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
:Enlarged sprites look terrible. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 06:49, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
::Couldn't we get a PBR screenshot? And I mean a screenshot, not someone pointing their camera at a television? (We need that for Rosy and Sashay, too...)--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 07:13, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
::I can't, my FRAPS only works on full screen games like Maple Story...I think we could take the Arceus photo, enlarge it and sharpen it a little, then put it back on bulba. The only problem with this is that the sprite would be oversize...
:::I hope that you have permission to use that piece of fan art. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]][[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]] 21:27, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
::::I've got five PBR shots. They're all in my [[User:Optimus35/Sandbox|sandbox]]. Click on the links under 'Arceus'. Tell me which one looks best on my talk page and I'll upload it onto Bulbagarden Archives...[[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|Agent]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|4]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|4]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|8]][[User talk:Optimus35|δ]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&Pearl|DP]]''' | [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Optimus35&namespace=0&year=&month=-1 ☆][[Image:Ani282MS.gif]] 09:01, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Change the pic!
[[User:Crystallucario|Crystallucario]] 14:54, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
:The reason why we're not changing it is because it's nicely done fanart, and it's more easier to look at this instead of a sprite.
:Otherwise it'd be absolute hell for me to draw Arceus. Still is, but certainly more easier than looking at a sprite. :p [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 16:40, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
hmmm maybe ok whatever...
[[User:Crystallucario|CrystalLucario 12:23, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
::...except, do we have permission to use the image? The image page doesn't seem to claim it at all, so I'm going to go ahead and guess that we're doing something illegal or at least unethical here. Seriously, why can't we just use a PBR shot?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 00:58, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Since when was pokemon ever ethical? Think about it, the aim of the game is to run away from home at 10 years old (good parenting skills mom) and after having abuse a poor little starly to the brink of death by slashing it over and over again with false swipe you throw something at it, only adding to the poor creature's pain and torture only to trap it inside a small, cramped chamber for the rest of its unnatural life whilst using it to abuse other pokemon. But anyways I digress, the point is the piece of fanart looks nice, is accurate and fits in perfectly with all the official pokemon artwork. Hell when I first visited the page I thought it WAS a piece of official artwork. A PBR snapshot would not be at all as effective as the fanart. So no, we ain't havin a PBR shot. [[User:Wikid|Wikid]] 16:20, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

::::No one is questioning the ethics of the series, just in using someone else's work without their consent. Besides, the face is drawn wrong. There should be more lines running across it. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:28, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

== Metronome ==

My Mew used Judgement through Metronome. Should I include something like this under "Trivia":

Although Nintendo is attempting to keep Arceus secret, it is possible for Arceus's signature move, {{m|Judgment}}, to be used through {{m|Metronome}}, thus potentially revealing the existence of Arceus to otherwise unaware fans.

--[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|Contribs]][[Image:Ani480MS.gif]] 20:33, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

i could draw arceus if that would help. i like drawing pokémon. [[talonclawz]] new comer!!!!!!!!!! [[Image:Ani444MS.gif‎]]

== Shishigami? ==

Should any mention of the Forest Spirit Shishigami from Miyazaki Hayao's Mononoke-Hime be mentioned in the article? Arceus seems to have a resemblance to Shishigami. In addition, on the illegal hacked Pokémon Diamond (Telefang Power), Shishigami appears on the front, despite not having anything to do with the game (that's the way those criminals work), and then in the real Pokémon Diamond, Arceus was added. Does anyone else think that some trivia should be added about this? ~Kumori Satosuke
:Outside of the whole quadrupedal thing, I don't think there's anything else that's official to suggest a connection. For example, Arceus seems to be nothing outside of a creator, while shishigami is given dominion over life and death.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:27, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, I agree. There really isn't anything linking the two other than a vague (And I do mean VAGUE.) resemblance. --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 14:15, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

== ??? type sprite may prevent crash ==
Just a theory, but the programmers at Game Freak may have drawn and programmmed a ??? type Arceus to prevent game crashes. Anyone with a code patcher can figure out how to change a Pokémon's type. They might have figured that someone would tamper with Arceus's type, and if they changed it to a ??? type, and there was no sprite for it, the game would crash because it would try loading data that does not exist. That's my theory anyway. [[User:Fsilone|Fsilone]] 02:10, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:That's really logical. figure that by yourself? But I still don't know if we should put that in the article.[[Image:Ani471MS.gif]][[User:Pokemaniac102|'''Poke''''''maniac''''''102''']][[Image:AniEggMS.gif]] 02:17, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

::im a little iffy on the grammer, but other than that i think its a fantastic theory and should be in the trivia section. excellent. now all i need to do is figure out how to do it myself in my game with the Action Replay... [[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TALK]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]] 02:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

:::You can't - you need to edit the rom data - action replay only edits temporary and save data. Think so anyway. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|折り紙ガイ]] - [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|離す]][[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|貢献]]''' 15:37, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

I think I don't see anything grammatically wrong. I copied the words above and reworded it into sentences.[[Image:Ani471MS.gif]][[User:Pokemaniac102|'''Poke''''''maniac''''''102''']][[Image:AniEggMS.gif]] 02:34, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

:yea, im probibly wrong, im not joking when i say i failed english class......twice...with a 54..... [[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TALK]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]] 03:42, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

what the heck is shishigami? is it a pokémon?(someone out there?) [[-talonclawz]] new comer!!!!! [[Image:212MS.gif]] 1:06, 5 April 2008

No. Wait a minute if you don't know that Errr...how new are you to Pokémon?[[User:Crystallucario|'''''Crystal''''']] [[User talk:Crystallucario|'''''Lucario''''']] 17:43, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

A shishigami is a Japanese god of death. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 14:51, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

== {{type2|???}} Sprite ==

[[Image:Question-Type Arceus Before.jpg|thumb|left|Before]][[Image:Question-Type Arceus After.jpg|thumb|right|After]]How long has the sprite of ???-type Arceus been pulling that vanishing act? Basically, the only time you can see the sprite is when the white background on PNG-format images is still visible, as seen in the Before shot. Once the white backgrounds vanish, the rest of the sprite should still be there. However, on ???-type Arceus, the sprite vanishes along with the background, as seen in the After shot. Is there a way to fix this?

(The shots in question come from an area of my own user page, specifically a [[Template:User Favorite Move|favorite move tag]] programmed for a ???-type move and {{m|Curse}} with the Arceus sprite in question for a laugh. The [[Template:User 2000|2000-edits in a month tag]] above it is also shown for comparison.) --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 05:41, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

:Wow. That's weird that it just disappears! --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Sandbox|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 11:59, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I think I figured out the vanishing act. It's due to the filename. Many operating systems don't allow question marks in filenames, and it's probably due to those that caused the image to vanish. I went and uploaded an image to [[a:Image:Spr 4d 493-Unknown.png|Image:Spr 4d 493-Unknown.png]] on the archives, and that image works as it should! Every instance of the vanishing image has been changed to the one that doesn't vanish, so you won't be seeing vanishing ???-type Arceus again anytime soon. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:37, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== Pic ==

Okay, I remember {{u|Urutapu}} saying something about a screenshot of Arceus from PBR. Well, I got a Wii ''and'' PBR for Christmas. And I have *cough*cheated*cough* four Arceuses. All I need now is a good-quality emulator that can screenshot my Wii with. Any suggestions?
--{{u|Stinkoman}}

Somehow theres a way of putting a SCART socket into your PC and running it through that. My mate's computer can do that but i think it had the socket when he bought it. [[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]]

== Officially been revealed ==
Until this Pokemon has been officially revealed (by Nintendo or Coro Coro magazine) this page should be removed, because the only reason why there is proof of its existence is through a hacking or cheating device.
:WHAT! This page should be included on here. If it is in the Game, weather or not if it has been reaveled, it IS STILL IN THE GAME WITHOUT HAVING TO BE MADE{{Ani|493}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']]{{Ani|491}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|''' Is''']]{{Ani|426}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]{{Ani|473}}
::Yea, this page is about a Pokémon. In case you don't know (hopefully you do), this is a Pokémon encyclopedia. This page is like mandatory. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 02:12, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Exactly. We have pages for all Pokémon ''officially programmed into the games''. Would you come here before Deoxys was revealed and say "NUH UH THERE'S ONLY 201 IN HOENN DEOXYS IS A HAKKER ONLY POKEMAN." Arceus is official, they're just holding off on the official revelation. Besides... plenty of Pokémon from each generation were never revealed through CoroCoro or by Nintendo individually. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 07:07, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I may only be 10, but take it from me. Arceus is real. It is on pokemon.com's pokedex.[[User:DaPikanator56|DaPikanator56]] 18:47, 22 March 2008 (UTC){{u|DaPikanator56}}
:Well, actually, it's not on the PokéDex on [[Pokemon.com]], but yes, it is real. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 13:17, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
::An example of what TTE said would be the Porygons. '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]02:32 30 Mar 2008'''

Oh yeah! It and ummm... {{p|Shaymin}} I think aren't Theryguy.[[User:DaPikanator56|DaPikanator56]] 18:52, 30 March 2008 (UTC){{u|DaPikanator56}}
:Shaymin has been acknowledged by official Japanese sources. And to address the original point, we are not Wikipedia. Everyone knows that Arceus is real, so this page is a necessity. Hell, we have articles for a lot of glitch Pokémon so a real one definately passes. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

True...Oh, and by the way, in the summer I will shorten my visits here, but this place rules! It ain't demented like Chuckie Cheese's.
:) ^-^[[User:DaPikanator56|DaPikanator56]] 22:31, 3 April 2008 (UTC)DaPikanator56

==Picture==

I found this picture interesting, but low quality. [http://www.pokebeach.com/news/0507/arceus.jpg its on www.pokebeach.com] --[[User:Britannia's Blade|Britannia's Blade]] 21:25, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:Good find, but it's already linked from the article [[Arceus (Pokémon)#External links|right here]]. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 23:38, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

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I also just found this one [http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/arceus.png ****] Fan art of course but very serious looking, Lots more like it [http://www.arkeis.com/legendaries.htm here] what do you think? --[[User:Britannia's Blade|Britannia's Blade]] 18:47, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:I don't see how fanart is very notable to put up here.. >_> [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 19:06, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
::The one we have right now will do us until Arcy is revealed next year. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:37, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:::What about this one? - [http://www.pokebeach.com/news/0507/arceus2.jpg (1)] '''[[:User:Origamiguy|折り紙ガイ]] - [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|離す]][[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|貢献]]''' 15:45, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
::::-Gasp- Why not that one! Ooo, take it! TAKE IT!!! '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Optimatum</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''13:53 2 May 2008'''''
TTE, Arceus isn't going 2 be revealed 4 two years yet. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 14:53, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

==Arceus and Giratina==
Aren't Arceus and Giratina sort of opposites of each other because Arceus is God and Giratina is the devil sort of, I mean Arceus didn't create Giratina so that means they were the two entities before time started. [[User:Big Johnno|Pokémon Master]] 17:46 15 May 2008
:Maybe you're right, but i think that Giratina is part of the Dragon Trio. [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 23:37, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
::Giratina is the BOSS! It saved the two other Pokamon! Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''01:04 17 May 2008'''''
:Hold on, there's no reason to get angry. Why can't we just WAIT until Arceus is officially revealed? Isn't that BETTER than argueing? [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 23:37, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

In my eyes it would be

Dialga + Palkia = Rivals (Time VS Space)

Giratina + Arceus = Rivals (God VS Darkness?)

So yeah, regardless of the fact Giratina is part of the Dragon Trio.
(''Thinking about it, those four are exactly the same as my characters |: Lily = Controls Time. Darkness = Controls Space. Akito = Controls Death. Rose = Controls Life/Is a sort-of God. But anyway, my characters are irrelevant too this xD'') [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 14:37, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:So, Arceus is God/JesusHoly Spirit, and Giratina is Satan? O.O It's Da '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''06:03 26 May 2008'''''
::Arceus is Arceus. Giratina is Giratina. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:02, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Meh, that's the Atheist way of seeing it. Hey, wait, am I about to be stone for being anti-atheist? Damn. It's Da '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''07:13 26 May 2008'''''
::::I didn't say Giratina was Satan, i simply said he was...darkness. [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 02:05, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
My question is, how do you KNOW Giratina is bad, or if Arceus is even good? How do you KNOW Giratina wasn't created by Arceus? You don't. Besides, Neither ot them are from Christianity, and U know what? I'm a devout Christian and I don't care if Arceus wasn't based off of my God. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 14:56, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
:Does anybody want to see it this way, "WE SHOULD ALL JUST WAIT"? [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 22:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
::I don't think Giratina is evil. You don't have too be evil/whatever to control darkness/whatever Giratina controls. I do not think Giratina is evil! [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 22:22, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
:Is this text INVISIBLE? WE SHOULD ALL JUST WAIT! [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 00:28, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

== More sprites ==

Ok, so we have all the type sprites for Arceus and it's shiny sprite, but we don't have shiny forms for Arceus' other types. Could someone please tell me if it's possible to get those sprites and if so get them for us? [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 12:08, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:If i could, i would, but i can't, so i can't help you. I'm not even 100% sure Arceus's other-type sprites HAVE shiny versions of them :| [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 14:27, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
::They do. And a simple method is to color the sprites the right color. The white portion of the body is the only part which remains constant throughout the non-shiny forms. and when it becomes shiny, the rings are the same color as those of the non-shiny ones. The only thing that differs between non-shiny and shiny is the white portion, which turns yellow. It's Da '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''06:01 26 May 2008'''''
:So... could you do that for us as a favor? [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 22:02, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
::I might have those sprites on my computer somewhere. Want me to upload them? [[User:Yinyang1195|Yin]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|Yang]] 20:05, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I don't see why not other than you apperently not knowing where they are. And someone PLEASE get rid of that fan artwork, it's unofficial up here! [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 22:58, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Helloooooooooooooooo, its been 2 weeks. Are you going to respond? [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 19:00, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
::::HURRY UP ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 15:49, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

==When?==
How long before he's in a movie? Does anyone know?[[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 14:58, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
:Following the pattern, Arceus will be in next year's movie. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
::or it'll be a lake trio, or cresselia movie. They did tha with Jirachi.[[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 15:24, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Don't forget we've sill got Heatran and Raikou to go yet, along with regigigas, so I'd say we've got quite a while.[[User:Wikid|Wikid]] 16:30, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

:Regigigas is in the Giratina and Shaymin movie. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:33, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
::I really hope next years is about ether Arceus or Cresselia [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 16:38, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

== Metronome and Judgement ==

If a player knows nothing about Arceus, how would they know that Judgement is its signature attack? Even if it is used by a Pokémon using Metronome. So could Metronome really spoil the surprise? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 02:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Not really. ^^; Metronome can do ANYTHING. Even Explosion so...'''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''02:54 4 Jun 2008'''''
::Well, if they were like "Ooh, what learns that?!" and can't find anyone, they'll suspect it to be some crazy legendary not yet shown. And have lived under a rock since EVERYONE KNOWS OF ARCEUS. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Hmm, then Singapore must be under a rock. Only two people I know know what's Arceus, that includes me. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''03:12 4 Jun 2008'''''
::::Or this is nintendo's way of teasing us. kinda like,
Player:"What pokémon learns this?"
Nintendo:"Wait and see"
Player:"You suck."[[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 12:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I only ask because of this quote in the trivia:

"''Although Nintendo is attempting to keep Arceus secret, it is possible for Arceus's signature move, Judgment, to be used through Metronome, thus potentially revealing the existence of Arceus to otherwise unaware fans.''"

Plus, Nintendo ''has'' to know that the majority of their fanbase uses the internet. Every Pokémon website except the "official" ones have info on Arceus. A lot of them even before the games were released globally. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:57, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:The majority of the fanbase are kids who don't necessarily visit fansites. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 16:02, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::No ([[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 16:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC))
:::Yes. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 16:04, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::::No ([[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 16:05, 4 June 2008 (UTC))

:::::I would have to disagree with that statement. I believe that most fans may have been kids at the beginning when Pokémon first came out, but now have grown as the series has. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:18, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

A similar thing happened to me when I was playing PBR. I ordered my Togepi to use Metronome and out came Judgment. I wondered what Pokémon used this move until I checked this site and I found Arceus. I didn't even know about its existence AT ALL when Metronome was used that one year ago... {{ani|385}}[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 18:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

== Arceus's pattern in the anime? ==

I didn't get a second look (mainly because I deleted the episode from my DVR), but I heard in the episode "Journey to the Unknown!" that Saturn was holding a cube with Arceus's pattern on it... [[User:ShinyRayquaza|ShinyRayquaza]] 19:35, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

== Arceus + Sky Plate? ==

If you attach a Sky Plate to Arceus, wouldn't that make it become the first pure Flying-type Pokémon? [[User:Wynautluvr|Wynautluvr]] 16:53, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

:It is the first "permanent" pure Flying-type. The Porygon line can become Flying-types with their Conversion moves, and Kecleon can with its Color Change Ability. These Pokémon, however, revert back to Normal when the battle is over. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:56, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

::It's not permanent, in that you can change the plate and it loses the pure-flying status... '''[[:User:Origamiguy|Lord]] of [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Ori]][[Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|gami]]''' 15:16, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:::It's permanent in that it doesn't go away just because the battle ends. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:46, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
::::No its not. Its only a permanent flying type if its natural type (i.e. no plate) is flying. You might as well say its also the first permamnent ??? type since it can become that (potentially) too.[[User:Wikid|Wikid]] 16:43, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::If you never remove the plate, then it's permanent. Plus, you can't obtain a ???-type Arceus in-game in any normal fashion. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:45, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::: Says you. firstly, the word permanent implies that the typing can never be changed. If you unequip the plate Arceus goes back to normal therefore it's not permanent. At best I would say its semi-permament. Secondly, there might a ??? plate given out at an event or found somewhere in platinum like Glacidia's flower. ??? forme arceus might be the result when you enter the torn world with arceus. It might even be what Arceus looks like when it is a shadow pokemon as there might be a new game coming out to do with shadow pokemon and DPP might be the first generation where you can trade shadow pokemon over. Therefore if you can trade it as shadow poke between DP and platinum then there is a way to get an ??? forme Arceus in a normal fashion.[[User:Wikid|Wikid]] 17:21, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Fine. "Semi-permanent". ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:24, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

== The plates ==

The [[plates]] mite actually be man-made since there is understandable writing on them that the player can read in the games. The [[???-type]] mite not hve a plate but a location to activate that effect or a differently designed plate most probably.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:27, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
*One word: Unown. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 13:30, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

in the games , the plates r described to have fell from the sky for an unknown reason , most probably fell from [[Hall of Origin]] but how,who ,what, why and when?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:51, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:Unknown, maybe we'll see in platinum or movie 12. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 15:17, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

there is something fishy about arceus's shiny form . if that shiny situation also goes with arceus that means that there is more than one .--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 07:37, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
:This is just speculation, there is no prove. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 07:39, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
::There are 36 Arceus. Each of them are different from the others. 18 are regular, 18 wear jewelry to make them look shiny. END.'''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:10 22 Jun 2008'''''

what jewelery to make them shiny?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 11:31, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
:Forget it. I requet removal of this section and the two sections that follow it. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''13:38 28 Jun 2008'''''
::I support the idea that they fell from the Hall of origin. Like loose roof tiles lol [[User:Wikid|Wikid]] 16:45, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
the hall of origin had loose roof tiles i like that idea that should be in the hall of origin article *joke* but still cool [[User:Wikid|Wikid]]

== The ??? Plate ==

The ??? Plate exists, It is named mysterious plate by CodeJunkies, It may also be encountered in the underground as a Malfunction, people got this (like my brother) and attached it to ARCEUS, making the ??? type, no weaknesses are found on this type--[[User:M.vit|M.vit]] 00:10, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:Believe me, people code-spelunk like there's no tomorrow...there isn't such thing.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:10, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

can M.vit at least tell how did his brother encounter such a plate, and how does it function with other Pokémon?and what happens to a Pokémon who knows the move [[curse]]

can somebody edit this article . It says that Arceus creted the Pokémon Universe,''Dragon trio'' and lake trio. Till now the dragon trio isn't officially confirmed. so whether I or somebody else should change the Dragon trio to the time-space duo: Dialga and Palkia.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:56, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

well, seems that nobody is out of topic, BTW, i have seem to find this code in Code Junkies here it is
Mysterious Plate x999
94000130 fcff0000
b21c4d28 00000000
b0000004 00000000
00000890 03e70133
d2000000 00000000--[[User:M.vit|M.vit]] 16:55, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

:The plates all have different names on CodeJunkies which are the translated Japenese names. I believe the Mysterious Plate is actually the Mind Plate. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:13, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::Your right, it is the mind plate. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 16:45, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

== My Theory ==

I believe that the ??? mark plate will exsist tin the anime because I can almost 100% sure that there will be a movie on Arceus, I then think they will give away an Arceus that has the ??? Plate or It will be avaliable in Platnuim. ''I do not think that it is just so hackers can make the plate.'' - PokePal
:They'll give away Arceus in Japan next year, yes. But the presence of an item with it that is not programmed into DP is very, very unlikely. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:07, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
I thought the ??? plate was programmed in DP! Look here: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Unknown_type

:No plate exists. Hackers can manipulate Arceus to make it the ???-type, but I'm not sure how that would affect the game or the move Judgment. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:12, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Could it soon exist? Where is the proof that it doesnt also? I found this about it http://www.serebii.net/diamondpearl/arceus.shtml
They don't know if it does-PokePal

:The sprite and coloration exists. But no plate is associated with it. It is unlikely that an item will be created because that would prevent Arceus from being traded to Diamond or Pearl as no item exists in those games' coding. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:19, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Sheesh thanxs for ruining my life and theory lol Thanx maybe it will just be in the anime!PokePal

:There is still a possibility that ???-type Arceus will exist, there just won't be a plate or any other type of held item that will change Arceus to that type. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:29, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Wait it is a real Item, that is only for hackers? PokePal

I have realized that Arceus doesn't need the ???-Plate to become ???-type. If anybody wants to know how,this is how: it might change type according to locatiion not ot item held just like Burmey and Wormadam that location is most probably the Torn World.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 09:25, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

anybody wants to debate about my theory or at least comment with a lively one?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 11:12, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

:It is a possibility, but why would the ???-type Arceus be available in D/P but not the alternate formes of Giratina and Shaymin? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 13:25, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
::Because Sky Forme and Origin Forme aren't in D/P's programming.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 18:46, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

:::I know that, what I'm getting to is if ???-Arceus could only be obtained during Platinum, then why would its coding be in D/P and not the formes of the other two Pokémon? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 20:06, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

:It's also worth noting that this would make sense: On the ???-type's page, it notes that offensive moves of the ???-type have been hacked in, and do almost no damage even with a power of 255. That would mean that, if Arceus were made a ???-type while in the Torn World, his signature attack, Judgment, would be rendered completely useless. [[User:SixthFlyingMan|SixthFlyingMan]] 05:53, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

The move Judjement shifts type according to the plate held, effectiveness and effcts are also shifted, so Judjements effects are also changed when ???-type plate is held, if existent.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:53, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

==type change==

Keckleons ability color change changes its type according to the move done by the opponent so if ???-type arceus used judjement, will it change its type? can anyone experiment?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:21, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

:The fact that you can't get a ??? plate makes it difficult to say. I have no idea what would happen...♪♪[[User:ShinyPachirisu|Shiny]] [[User Talk:ShinyPachirisu|Pachirisu]] :) ♪♪ 13:23, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

::???-type moves have been hacked and have no effect. So Kecleon would probably be unaffected. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 13:39, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

== [[Pal Park]] ==

Will it really freeze the game when you put Arceus infront of the party and bla bla bla to the Pal Park?
[[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 03:48, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

== Now... ==

Isn't what I did so freaking cool? I mean, look at it. And the best thing is that it is totally dependent on the ''exact second'' that you save/access the page. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:32, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:A fine template, indeed. Would it be useful to use something like this to generate random examples in paragraphs?
:P.S.: What you did (a calculation based on a clock) is even a good idea for a new ability or move in the game that picks a random type. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 07:53, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

==Arceus in My Pokémon Ranch==
For a fact,someone in the German forum BisaBoard got Arceus as one of the daily Pokémon!This person was -like me- totally dumbfounded and opened that thread to know more about this phenomena.
I've asked some expert in the same message board if this would be really possible.To my surprise,he said that he checked the programme code and Arceus is really included!I think this MUST be put into the Trivia section.[[User:Uxie legend|Uxie legend]]

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Uxie legend: /* With Flame Plate */

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Uxie legend:

Um, {{u|TTEchidna}}, you put down that Arseus can become an ???-type Pokémon by holding a ??? Plate. Where'd you get that from?--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 21:35, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Man u have got to be kidding me Arceus catch rate should not be 3. I used my Action replay to get the item 4 arceus then i went and caought it on my 5th dusk ball. My friend caought it on him 1st ultra ball. Another friend i gave the item 2 caught it on his 2nd qiuck ball.
:Man, you have to be kidding me, you can't even spell the word "you" right. Arceus's catch rate is 3. If you'll notice, those balls multiply the catch rate formula by quite a bit, which greatly increases the chance to be caught. Plus, it's all on luck, I've had Magikarp break out of balls before. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 22:36, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

I added an alternative origin to Arceus's name that I found on: http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=286767.[[User:Draconium|Draconium]] 23:42, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

==Is there a point...==
Is there a point of having a table for each of the plates when it is attached to Arceus?
We could just have Arceus without a plate, and then have each title with an image and a sentence saying what type Arceus changes to.
For Example:

==Type effectiveness==
[[Image:493Arseus.png|thumb|right|Sprite for {{type2|Normal}} Arceus]]
===No plate equipped===
{{DP type effectiveness|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=200 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 0 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}
[[Image:Spr 4d 493-Fire.png|thumb|right|Sprite for {{type2|Fire}} Arceus]]
===With Flame Plate===
When the Flame Plate is attached to Arceus, it becomes a Fire type.

etc... [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 23:06, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I have heard Arceus is available legally through My Pokémon Ranch.For a fact,my Friend checked and Arceus is really included in the Programm code.Somebody in a Forum was puzzled as he was fortunate enough to actually get one!We should include this in the Trivia.
==Picture==
I have this picture:

[[Image:Arceus.PNG]]

I did not draw it. I want to use it on the page. It is much better than trying to stare at a tiny sprite. --[[User:Stinkoman|Stinkoman]] 15:08, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

:Better than a sprite for sure, but it'd be nice if we could find one without such bad compression artifacts. [[User:Invisible Shiny Bulbasaur|Invisible Shiny Bulbasaur]] 22:30, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
::I don't think we should really be using an unofficial image for the page. What would be nice is if somebody could get a nice, high-quality (as in NOT a photo of the monitor) screenshot of ARceus from PBR.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:22, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
:::You mean hack an Arceus and copy it into PBR?
[[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]][[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|Agent]] [[Gallade (Pokémon)|448]][[User talk:Optimus35|Talk]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&Pearl|DP]]''' [[Image:Fighting-attack.png|Fighting]] 11:46, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

== Sprites? ==

Should we include separate sprite templates for all of the forms, or just do it for one? I know that Unown and Castform, among others, would serve the same problem. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 22:10, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

== Art?! ==

I'd like to know the source of Arceus' picture. Mainly because it hasn't been revealed yet. TinaTheKirlia 02:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:It's a piece of fanart. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 02:47, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::That's what I thought, although there was an edit that said "Official Art" or something and it was rather confusing. TinaTheKirlia 16:29, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
I think we should replace that art with a sprite. It seems inaccurate... Mariocaper 19:19, 20 September 2007

Yeah, and we could enlarge the size of the sprite so it won't be that tiny anymore, right? [[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]]http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani475.gif '''[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35]][[User talk:Optimus35|Talk]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&Pearl|DP]]''' [[Image:Fighting-attack.png|Fighting]] 06:45, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
:Enlarged sprites look terrible. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 06:49, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
::Couldn't we get a PBR screenshot? And I mean a screenshot, not someone pointing their camera at a television? (We need that for Rosy and Sashay, too...)--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 07:13, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
::I can't, my FRAPS only works on full screen games like Maple Story...I think we could take the Arceus photo, enlarge it and sharpen it a little, then put it back on bulba. The only problem with this is that the sprite would be oversize...
:::I hope that you have permission to use that piece of fan art. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]][[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]] 21:27, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
::::I've got five PBR shots. They're all in my [[User:Optimus35/Sandbox|sandbox]]. Click on the links under 'Arceus'. Tell me which one looks best on my talk page and I'll upload it onto Bulbagarden Archives...[[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|Agent]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|4]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|4]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|8]][[User talk:Optimus35|δ]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&Pearl|DP]]''' | [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Optimus35&namespace=0&year=&month=-1 ☆][[Image:Ani282MS.gif]] 09:01, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Change the pic!
[[User:Crystallucario|Crystallucario]] 14:54, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
:The reason why we're not changing it is because it's nicely done fanart, and it's more easier to look at this instead of a sprite.
:Otherwise it'd be absolute hell for me to draw Arceus. Still is, but certainly more easier than looking at a sprite. :p [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 16:40, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
hmmm maybe ok whatever...
[[User:Crystallucario|CrystalLucario 12:23, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
::...except, do we have permission to use the image? The image page doesn't seem to claim it at all, so I'm going to go ahead and guess that we're doing something illegal or at least unethical here. Seriously, why can't we just use a PBR shot?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 00:58, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Since when was pokemon ever ethical? Think about it, the aim of the game is to run away from home at 10 years old (good parenting skills mom) and after having abuse a poor little starly to the brink of death by slashing it over and over again with false swipe you throw something at it, only adding to the poor creature's pain and torture only to trap it inside a small, cramped chamber for the rest of its unnatural life whilst using it to abuse other pokemon. But anyways I digress, the point is the piece of fanart looks nice, is accurate and fits in perfectly with all the official pokemon artwork. Hell when I first visited the page I thought it WAS a piece of official artwork. A PBR snapshot would not be at all as effective as the fanart. So no, we ain't havin a PBR shot. [[User:Wikid|Wikid]] 16:20, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

::::No one is questioning the ethics of the series, just in using someone else's work without their consent. Besides, the face is drawn wrong. There should be more lines running across it. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:28, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

== Metronome ==

My Mew used Judgement through Metronome. Should I include something like this under "Trivia":

Although Nintendo is attempting to keep Arceus secret, it is possible for Arceus's signature move, {{m|Judgment}}, to be used through {{m|Metronome}}, thus potentially revealing the existence of Arceus to otherwise unaware fans.

--[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|Contribs]][[Image:Ani480MS.gif]] 20:33, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

i could draw arceus if that would help. i like drawing pokémon. [[talonclawz]] new comer!!!!!!!!!! [[Image:Ani444MS.gif‎]]

== Shishigami? ==

Should any mention of the Forest Spirit Shishigami from Miyazaki Hayao's Mononoke-Hime be mentioned in the article? Arceus seems to have a resemblance to Shishigami. In addition, on the illegal hacked Pokémon Diamond (Telefang Power), Shishigami appears on the front, despite not having anything to do with the game (that's the way those criminals work), and then in the real Pokémon Diamond, Arceus was added. Does anyone else think that some trivia should be added about this? ~Kumori Satosuke
:Outside of the whole quadrupedal thing, I don't think there's anything else that's official to suggest a connection. For example, Arceus seems to be nothing outside of a creator, while shishigami is given dominion over life and death.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:27, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, I agree. There really isn't anything linking the two other than a vague (And I do mean VAGUE.) resemblance. --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 14:15, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

== ??? type sprite may prevent crash ==
Just a theory, but the programmers at Game Freak may have drawn and programmmed a ??? type Arceus to prevent game crashes. Anyone with a code patcher can figure out how to change a Pokémon's type. They might have figured that someone would tamper with Arceus's type, and if they changed it to a ??? type, and there was no sprite for it, the game would crash because it would try loading data that does not exist. That's my theory anyway. [[User:Fsilone|Fsilone]] 02:10, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:That's really logical. figure that by yourself? But I still don't know if we should put that in the article.[[Image:Ani471MS.gif]][[User:Pokemaniac102|'''Poke''''''maniac''''''102''']][[Image:AniEggMS.gif]] 02:17, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

::im a little iffy on the grammer, but other than that i think its a fantastic theory and should be in the trivia section. excellent. now all i need to do is figure out how to do it myself in my game with the Action Replay... [[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TALK]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]] 02:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

:::You can't - you need to edit the rom data - action replay only edits temporary and save data. Think so anyway. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|折り紙ガイ]] - [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|離す]][[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|貢献]]''' 15:37, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

I think I don't see anything grammatically wrong. I copied the words above and reworded it into sentences.[[Image:Ani471MS.gif]][[User:Pokemaniac102|'''Poke''''''maniac''''''102''']][[Image:AniEggMS.gif]] 02:34, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

:yea, im probibly wrong, im not joking when i say i failed english class......twice...with a 54..... [[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TALK]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]] 03:42, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

what the heck is shishigami? is it a pokémon?(someone out there?) [[-talonclawz]] new comer!!!!! [[Image:212MS.gif]] 1:06, 5 April 2008

No. Wait a minute if you don't know that Errr...how new are you to Pokémon?[[User:Crystallucario|'''''Crystal''''']] [[User talk:Crystallucario|'''''Lucario''''']] 17:43, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

A shishigami is a Japanese god of death. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 14:51, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

== {{type2|???}} Sprite ==

[[Image:Question-Type Arceus Before.jpg|thumb|left|Before]][[Image:Question-Type Arceus After.jpg|thumb|right|After]]How long has the sprite of ???-type Arceus been pulling that vanishing act? Basically, the only time you can see the sprite is when the white background on PNG-format images is still visible, as seen in the Before shot. Once the white backgrounds vanish, the rest of the sprite should still be there. However, on ???-type Arceus, the sprite vanishes along with the background, as seen in the After shot. Is there a way to fix this?

(The shots in question come from an area of my own user page, specifically a [[Template:User Favorite Move|favorite move tag]] programmed for a ???-type move and {{m|Curse}} with the Arceus sprite in question for a laugh. The [[Template:User 2000|2000-edits in a month tag]] above it is also shown for comparison.) --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 05:41, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

:Wow. That's weird that it just disappears! --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Sandbox|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 11:59, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I think I figured out the vanishing act. It's due to the filename. Many operating systems don't allow question marks in filenames, and it's probably due to those that caused the image to vanish. I went and uploaded an image to [[a:Image:Spr 4d 493-Unknown.png|Image:Spr 4d 493-Unknown.png]] on the archives, and that image works as it should! Every instance of the vanishing image has been changed to the one that doesn't vanish, so you won't be seeing vanishing ???-type Arceus again anytime soon. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:37, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== Pic ==

Okay, I remember {{u|Urutapu}} saying something about a screenshot of Arceus from PBR. Well, I got a Wii ''and'' PBR for Christmas. And I have *cough*cheated*cough* four Arceuses. All I need now is a good-quality emulator that can screenshot my Wii with. Any suggestions?
--{{u|Stinkoman}}

Somehow theres a way of putting a SCART socket into your PC and running it through that. My mate's computer can do that but i think it had the socket when he bought it. [[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]]

== Officially been revealed ==
Until this Pokemon has been officially revealed (by Nintendo or Coro Coro magazine) this page should be removed, because the only reason why there is proof of its existence is through a hacking or cheating device.
:WHAT! This page should be included on here. If it is in the Game, weather or not if it has been reaveled, it IS STILL IN THE GAME WITHOUT HAVING TO BE MADE{{Ani|493}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']]{{Ani|491}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|''' Is''']]{{Ani|426}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]{{Ani|473}}
::Yea, this page is about a Pokémon. In case you don't know (hopefully you do), this is a Pokémon encyclopedia. This page is like mandatory. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 02:12, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Exactly. We have pages for all Pokémon ''officially programmed into the games''. Would you come here before Deoxys was revealed and say "NUH UH THERE'S ONLY 201 IN HOENN DEOXYS IS A HAKKER ONLY POKEMAN." Arceus is official, they're just holding off on the official revelation. Besides... plenty of Pokémon from each generation were never revealed through CoroCoro or by Nintendo individually. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 07:07, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I may only be 10, but take it from me. Arceus is real. It is on pokemon.com's pokedex.[[User:DaPikanator56|DaPikanator56]] 18:47, 22 March 2008 (UTC){{u|DaPikanator56}}
:Well, actually, it's not on the PokéDex on [[Pokemon.com]], but yes, it is real. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 13:17, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
::An example of what TTE said would be the Porygons. '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]02:32 30 Mar 2008'''

Oh yeah! It and ummm... {{p|Shaymin}} I think aren't Theryguy.[[User:DaPikanator56|DaPikanator56]] 18:52, 30 March 2008 (UTC){{u|DaPikanator56}}
:Shaymin has been acknowledged by official Japanese sources. And to address the original point, we are not Wikipedia. Everyone knows that Arceus is real, so this page is a necessity. Hell, we have articles for a lot of glitch Pokémon so a real one definately passes. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

True...Oh, and by the way, in the summer I will shorten my visits here, but this place rules! It ain't demented like Chuckie Cheese's.
:) ^-^[[User:DaPikanator56|DaPikanator56]] 22:31, 3 April 2008 (UTC)DaPikanator56

==Picture==

I found this picture interesting, but low quality. [http://www.pokebeach.com/news/0507/arceus.jpg its on www.pokebeach.com] --[[User:Britannia's Blade|Britannia's Blade]] 21:25, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:Good find, but it's already linked from the article [[Arceus (Pokémon)#External links|right here]]. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 23:38, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

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I also just found this one [http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/arceus.png ****] Fan art of course but very serious looking, Lots more like it [http://www.arkeis.com/legendaries.htm here] what do you think? --[[User:Britannia's Blade|Britannia's Blade]] 18:47, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:I don't see how fanart is very notable to put up here.. >_> [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 19:06, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
::The one we have right now will do us until Arcy is revealed next year. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:37, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:::What about this one? - [http://www.pokebeach.com/news/0507/arceus2.jpg (1)] '''[[:User:Origamiguy|折り紙ガイ]] - [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|離す]][[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|貢献]]''' 15:45, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
::::-Gasp- Why not that one! Ooo, take it! TAKE IT!!! '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Optimatum</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''13:53 2 May 2008'''''
TTE, Arceus isn't going 2 be revealed 4 two years yet. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 14:53, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

==Arceus and Giratina==
Aren't Arceus and Giratina sort of opposites of each other because Arceus is God and Giratina is the devil sort of, I mean Arceus didn't create Giratina so that means they were the two entities before time started. [[User:Big Johnno|Pokémon Master]] 17:46 15 May 2008
:Maybe you're right, but i think that Giratina is part of the Dragon Trio. [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 23:37, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
::Giratina is the BOSS! It saved the two other Pokamon! Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''01:04 17 May 2008'''''
:Hold on, there's no reason to get angry. Why can't we just WAIT until Arceus is officially revealed? Isn't that BETTER than argueing? [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 23:37, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

In my eyes it would be

Dialga + Palkia = Rivals (Time VS Space)

Giratina + Arceus = Rivals (God VS Darkness?)

So yeah, regardless of the fact Giratina is part of the Dragon Trio.
(''Thinking about it, those four are exactly the same as my characters |: Lily = Controls Time. Darkness = Controls Space. Akito = Controls Death. Rose = Controls Life/Is a sort-of God. But anyway, my characters are irrelevant too this xD'') [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 14:37, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:So, Arceus is God/JesusHoly Spirit, and Giratina is Satan? O.O It's Da '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''06:03 26 May 2008'''''
::Arceus is Arceus. Giratina is Giratina. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:02, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Meh, that's the Atheist way of seeing it. Hey, wait, am I about to be stone for being anti-atheist? Damn. It's Da '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''07:13 26 May 2008'''''
::::I didn't say Giratina was Satan, i simply said he was...darkness. [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 02:05, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
My question is, how do you KNOW Giratina is bad, or if Arceus is even good? How do you KNOW Giratina wasn't created by Arceus? You don't. Besides, Neither ot them are from Christianity, and U know what? I'm a devout Christian and I don't care if Arceus wasn't based off of my God. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 14:56, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
:Does anybody want to see it this way, "WE SHOULD ALL JUST WAIT"? [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 22:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
::I don't think Giratina is evil. You don't have too be evil/whatever to control darkness/whatever Giratina controls. I do not think Giratina is evil! [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 22:22, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
:Is this text INVISIBLE? WE SHOULD ALL JUST WAIT! [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 00:28, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

== More sprites ==

Ok, so we have all the type sprites for Arceus and it's shiny sprite, but we don't have shiny forms for Arceus' other types. Could someone please tell me if it's possible to get those sprites and if so get them for us? [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 12:08, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:If i could, i would, but i can't, so i can't help you. I'm not even 100% sure Arceus's other-type sprites HAVE shiny versions of them :| [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 14:27, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
::They do. And a simple method is to color the sprites the right color. The white portion of the body is the only part which remains constant throughout the non-shiny forms. and when it becomes shiny, the rings are the same color as those of the non-shiny ones. The only thing that differs between non-shiny and shiny is the white portion, which turns yellow. It's Da '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''06:01 26 May 2008'''''
:So... could you do that for us as a favor? [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 22:02, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
::I might have those sprites on my computer somewhere. Want me to upload them? [[User:Yinyang1195|Yin]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|Yang]] 20:05, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I don't see why not other than you apperently not knowing where they are. And someone PLEASE get rid of that fan artwork, it's unofficial up here! [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 22:58, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Helloooooooooooooooo, its been 2 weeks. Are you going to respond? [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 19:00, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
::::HURRY UP ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 15:49, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

==When?==
How long before he's in a movie? Does anyone know?[[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 14:58, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
:Following the pattern, Arceus will be in next year's movie. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
::or it'll be a lake trio, or cresselia movie. They did tha with Jirachi.[[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 15:24, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Don't forget we've sill got Heatran and Raikou to go yet, along with regigigas, so I'd say we've got quite a while.[[User:Wikid|Wikid]] 16:30, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

:Regigigas is in the Giratina and Shaymin movie. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:33, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
::I really hope next years is about ether Arceus or Cresselia [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 16:38, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

== Metronome and Judgement ==

If a player knows nothing about Arceus, how would they know that Judgement is its signature attack? Even if it is used by a Pokémon using Metronome. So could Metronome really spoil the surprise? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 02:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Not really. ^^; Metronome can do ANYTHING. Even Explosion so...'''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''02:54 4 Jun 2008'''''
::Well, if they were like "Ooh, what learns that?!" and can't find anyone, they'll suspect it to be some crazy legendary not yet shown. And have lived under a rock since EVERYONE KNOWS OF ARCEUS. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Hmm, then Singapore must be under a rock. Only two people I know know what's Arceus, that includes me. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''03:12 4 Jun 2008'''''
::::Or this is nintendo's way of teasing us. kinda like,
Player:"What pokémon learns this?"
Nintendo:"Wait and see"
Player:"You suck."[[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 12:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I only ask because of this quote in the trivia:

"''Although Nintendo is attempting to keep Arceus secret, it is possible for Arceus's signature move, Judgment, to be used through Metronome, thus potentially revealing the existence of Arceus to otherwise unaware fans.''"

Plus, Nintendo ''has'' to know that the majority of their fanbase uses the internet. Every Pokémon website except the "official" ones have info on Arceus. A lot of them even before the games were released globally. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:57, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:The majority of the fanbase are kids who don't necessarily visit fansites. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 16:02, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::No ([[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 16:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC))
:::Yes. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 16:04, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::::No ([[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 16:05, 4 June 2008 (UTC))

:::::I would have to disagree with that statement. I believe that most fans may have been kids at the beginning when Pokémon first came out, but now have grown as the series has. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:18, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

A similar thing happened to me when I was playing PBR. I ordered my Togepi to use Metronome and out came Judgment. I wondered what Pokémon used this move until I checked this site and I found Arceus. I didn't even know about its existence AT ALL when Metronome was used that one year ago... {{ani|385}}[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 18:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

== Arceus's pattern in the anime? ==

I didn't get a second look (mainly because I deleted the episode from my DVR), but I heard in the episode "Journey to the Unknown!" that Saturn was holding a cube with Arceus's pattern on it... [[User:ShinyRayquaza|ShinyRayquaza]] 19:35, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

== Arceus + Sky Plate? ==

If you attach a Sky Plate to Arceus, wouldn't that make it become the first pure Flying-type Pokémon? [[User:Wynautluvr|Wynautluvr]] 16:53, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

:It is the first "permanent" pure Flying-type. The Porygon line can become Flying-types with their Conversion moves, and Kecleon can with its Color Change Ability. These Pokémon, however, revert back to Normal when the battle is over. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:56, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

::It's not permanent, in that you can change the plate and it loses the pure-flying status... '''[[:User:Origamiguy|Lord]] of [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Ori]][[Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|gami]]''' 15:16, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:::It's permanent in that it doesn't go away just because the battle ends. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:46, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
::::No its not. Its only a permanent flying type if its natural type (i.e. no plate) is flying. You might as well say its also the first permamnent ??? type since it can become that (potentially) too.[[User:Wikid|Wikid]] 16:43, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::If you never remove the plate, then it's permanent. Plus, you can't obtain a ???-type Arceus in-game in any normal fashion. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:45, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::: Says you. firstly, the word permanent implies that the typing can never be changed. If you unequip the plate Arceus goes back to normal therefore it's not permanent. At best I would say its semi-permament. Secondly, there might a ??? plate given out at an event or found somewhere in platinum like Glacidia's flower. ??? forme arceus might be the result when you enter the torn world with arceus. It might even be what Arceus looks like when it is a shadow pokemon as there might be a new game coming out to do with shadow pokemon and DPP might be the first generation where you can trade shadow pokemon over. Therefore if you can trade it as shadow poke between DP and platinum then there is a way to get an ??? forme Arceus in a normal fashion.[[User:Wikid|Wikid]] 17:21, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Fine. "Semi-permanent". ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:24, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

== The plates ==

The [[plates]] mite actually be man-made since there is understandable writing on them that the player can read in the games. The [[???-type]] mite not hve a plate but a location to activate that effect or a differently designed plate most probably.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:27, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
*One word: Unown. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 13:30, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

in the games , the plates r described to have fell from the sky for an unknown reason , most probably fell from [[Hall of Origin]] but how,who ,what, why and when?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:51, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:Unknown, maybe we'll see in platinum or movie 12. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 15:17, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

there is something fishy about arceus's shiny form . if that shiny situation also goes with arceus that means that there is more than one .--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 07:37, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
:This is just speculation, there is no prove. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 07:39, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
::There are 36 Arceus. Each of them are different from the others. 18 are regular, 18 wear jewelry to make them look shiny. END.'''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:10 22 Jun 2008'''''

what jewelery to make them shiny?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 11:31, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
:Forget it. I requet removal of this section and the two sections that follow it. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''13:38 28 Jun 2008'''''
::I support the idea that they fell from the Hall of origin. Like loose roof tiles lol [[User:Wikid|Wikid]] 16:45, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
the hall of origin had loose roof tiles i like that idea that should be in the hall of origin article *joke* but still cool [[User:Wikid|Wikid]]

== The ??? Plate ==

The ??? Plate exists, It is named mysterious plate by CodeJunkies, It may also be encountered in the underground as a Malfunction, people got this (like my brother) and attached it to ARCEUS, making the ??? type, no weaknesses are found on this type--[[User:M.vit|M.vit]] 00:10, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:Believe me, people code-spelunk like there's no tomorrow...there isn't such thing.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:10, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

can M.vit at least tell how did his brother encounter such a plate, and how does it function with other Pokémon?and what happens to a Pokémon who knows the move [[curse]]

can somebody edit this article . It says that Arceus creted the Pokémon Universe,''Dragon trio'' and lake trio. Till now the dragon trio isn't officially confirmed. so whether I or somebody else should change the Dragon trio to the time-space duo: Dialga and Palkia.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:56, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

well, seems that nobody is out of topic, BTW, i have seem to find this code in Code Junkies here it is
Mysterious Plate x999
94000130 fcff0000
b21c4d28 00000000
b0000004 00000000
00000890 03e70133
d2000000 00000000--[[User:M.vit|M.vit]] 16:55, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

:The plates all have different names on CodeJunkies which are the translated Japenese names. I believe the Mysterious Plate is actually the Mind Plate. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:13, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::Your right, it is the mind plate. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 16:45, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

== My Theory ==

I believe that the ??? mark plate will exsist tin the anime because I can almost 100% sure that there will be a movie on Arceus, I then think they will give away an Arceus that has the ??? Plate or It will be avaliable in Platnuim. ''I do not think that it is just so hackers can make the plate.'' - PokePal
:They'll give away Arceus in Japan next year, yes. But the presence of an item with it that is not programmed into DP is very, very unlikely. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:07, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
I thought the ??? plate was programmed in DP! Look here: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Unknown_type

:No plate exists. Hackers can manipulate Arceus to make it the ???-type, but I'm not sure how that would affect the game or the move Judgment. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:12, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Could it soon exist? Where is the proof that it doesnt also? I found this about it http://www.serebii.net/diamondpearl/arceus.shtml
They don't know if it does-PokePal

:The sprite and coloration exists. But no plate is associated with it. It is unlikely that an item will be created because that would prevent Arceus from being traded to Diamond or Pearl as no item exists in those games' coding. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:19, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Sheesh thanxs for ruining my life and theory lol Thanx maybe it will just be in the anime!PokePal

:There is still a possibility that ???-type Arceus will exist, there just won't be a plate or any other type of held item that will change Arceus to that type. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:29, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Wait it is a real Item, that is only for hackers? PokePal

I have realized that Arceus doesn't need the ???-Plate to become ???-type. If anybody wants to know how,this is how: it might change type according to locatiion not ot item held just like Burmey and Wormadam that location is most probably the Torn World.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 09:25, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

anybody wants to debate about my theory or at least comment with a lively one?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 11:12, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

:It is a possibility, but why would the ???-type Arceus be available in D/P but not the alternate formes of Giratina and Shaymin? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 13:25, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
::Because Sky Forme and Origin Forme aren't in D/P's programming.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 18:46, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

:::I know that, what I'm getting to is if ???-Arceus could only be obtained during Platinum, then why would its coding be in D/P and not the formes of the other two Pokémon? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 20:06, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

:It's also worth noting that this would make sense: On the ???-type's page, it notes that offensive moves of the ???-type have been hacked in, and do almost no damage even with a power of 255. That would mean that, if Arceus were made a ???-type while in the Torn World, his signature attack, Judgment, would be rendered completely useless. [[User:SixthFlyingMan|SixthFlyingMan]] 05:53, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

The move Judjement shifts type according to the plate held, effectiveness and effcts are also shifted, so Judjements effects are also changed when ???-type plate is held, if existent.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:53, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

==type change==

Keckleons ability color change changes its type according to the move done by the opponent so if ???-type arceus used judjement, will it change its type? can anyone experiment?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:21, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

:The fact that you can't get a ??? plate makes it difficult to say. I have no idea what would happen...♪♪[[User:ShinyPachirisu|Shiny]] [[User Talk:ShinyPachirisu|Pachirisu]] :) ♪♪ 13:23, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

::???-type moves have been hacked and have no effect. So Kecleon would probably be unaffected. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 13:39, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

== [[Pal Park]] ==

Will it really freeze the game when you put Arceus infront of the party and bla bla bla to the Pal Park?
[[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 03:48, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

== Now... ==

Isn't what I did so freaking cool? I mean, look at it. And the best thing is that it is totally dependent on the ''exact second'' that you save/access the page. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:32, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:A fine template, indeed. Would it be useful to use something like this to generate random examples in paragraphs?
:P.S.: What you did (a calculation based on a clock) is even a good idea for a new ability or move in the game that picks a random type. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 07:53, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Deoxys (Pokémon)

2008-05-11T08:02:21Z

Uxie legend: /* Trivia */

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Jirachi | next=Turtwig }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Deoxys |
jname=デオキシス |
tmname=Deoxys |
image=386Deoxys.png |
caption=Artwork from R/S/E/FR/LG |
ndex=386 |
hdex=202 |
fdex=211 |
typen=1 |
type1=Psychic |
type2= |
species=DNA |
height-ftin=5′07″ |
height-m=1.7 |
weight-lbs=134.0 |
weight-kg=60.8 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Pressure |
ability2= |
egggroupn=0 |
egggroup1=No eggs |
egggroup2= |
hatchsteps=30,720 |
effortyield=1 Atk, 1 SpA, 1 Spd |
expyield=215 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gender=none |
female=0 |
male=0 |
color=Red |
catchrate=3 |
pokefordex=deoxys |
generation=3 |
footnotes=}}
'''Deoxys''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: デオキシス ''Deoxys'') is a {{t|Psychic}}-type Pokémon.

Deoxys has four different forms. In [[Generation III]], its form depends on what game is being played. In [[Generation IV]], its form can be changed at will in [[Veilstone City]].

Deoxys evolves neither to anything, nor from anything, and is the last Pokémon in the [[List of Pokémon by Hoenn Dex number|Hoenn Dex]] and [[List of Pokémon by National Dex number|National Dex]] within [[Generation III]].

=Biology=
The shape of Deoxys is based on a strand of {{wp|DNA}}.

==Physiology==
Deoxys has four forms, each with different appearance. The main things that are constant for all four forms is that Deoxys's dominant color is orange with a bluish-green face that has a purple stripe where a nose would be and white circular eyes and the crystalline organ in its chest:

The "Normal" form has skinny legs that come to a point. The upper-legs have a single blue stripe that goes down to the knees. Deoxys can sometimes have bluish-green arms with five-fingered hands and a red "Y" shape that runs down the arms' entire length. It has an orange skin that covers it except for its abdomen. It also been seen with two cord-like tentacles (one red and one blue) in place of the arms. Deoxys also has two trapezoid-shaped "ears".

The "Attack" form has basically the same leg-shape as the Normal Form, but the stripes run down for mostly all of the legs' length and Deoxys has a spike on each of its knees. Deoxys has a pair of tentacles that come to a point were its arms would be and cannot be twisted. Deoxys has triangle-shaped "ears" and a single spike on top of its head. Most of the orange "skin" has disappeared.

The "Defense" form has wide legs that are somewhat flat at the end and have a bluish-green spot on each of the knees. Deoxys has flat, broad tentacles that also can't be twisted and Deoxys's head has been fused with its body. Its "skin" has thickened and covered all of its body parts for greater defense.

The "Speed" form has gray, skinny legs and a gray body. Deoxys only has one tentacle on each side of its body. The back of Deoxys's head is elongated and comes to a point. It has also lost most of its orange "skin" for better aerodynamics serving allowing faster movement.
===Gender differences===
Deoxys is a genderless species.
===Special abilities===
Deoxys mostly has the same abilities as {{p|Mewtwo}} and the aforementioned ability to change its appearance to suit whatever situation it may be in during battle. [[Destiny Deoxys]] shows a Deoxys creating duplicates of itself to help achieve its objective.

Deoxys is the [[Signature move|only known Pokémon]] that learns {{m|Psycho Boost}}.

==Behavior==
Deoxys tend to keep to themselves, but befriend humans they trust.

==Habitat==
[[Image:Rare.gif|right|frame|[[List of Pokémon by habitat#Rare Pokémon|Rare Pokémon]]]]
Deoxys was a virus resting in a stray meteor, and while it flew through the atmosphere, the virus mutated into Deoxys.

==Diet==
{{main|Pokémon food}}

=In the anime=
[[Image:Deoxys anime.jpg|thumb|(Speed Form) Deoxys (left) and Swellow battle it out]]
Deoxys first appeared in ''[[Destiny Deoxys]]''. One with a green crystalline organ fell to earth in a meteorite. A second Deoxys (with a purple crystalline organ) came to La Rousse City to search for it but ended up in an epic battle with {{p|Rayquaza}}. As [[Pokémon Emerald]] had not been released when the movie was produced, only its {{stat|Defense}}, Normal and {{stat|Attack}} forms appeared.

In the anime, Deoxys's cry was a loud but short foghorn like blast.

Deoxys also appeared in the special episode ''[[AG171|Pokémon Ranger - Deoxys Crisis!]]''. This is where Deoxys's {{stat|Speed}} form debuted.

=In the manga=

=In the TCG=
{{main|Deoxys (TCG)}}

=Other appearances=
===[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]===
When unleashed from a [[Poké Ball]], an Attack Form Deoxys will sometimes appear. It floats gently towards the top of the screen. It will spin gracefully and begin to glow. When fully facing the front, it will cast a powerful {{m|Hyper Beam}}, sending anyone in its path flying.

=Game data=
==Pokédex entries==
{{Dex
|type=psychic
|gen=3
|rubydex=The DNA of a space virus underwent a sudden mutation upon exposure to a laser beam and resulted in Deoxys. The crystalline organ on this Pokémon's chest appears to be its brain.
|sapphiredex=Deoxys emerged from a virus that came from space. It is highly intelligent and wields psychokinetic powers. This Pokémon shoots lasers from the crystalline organ on its chest.
|emeralddex=A Pokémon that mutated from an extraterrestrial virus exposed to a laser beam. Its body is configured for superior agility and speed.
|firereddex=This Deoxys has transformed into its aggressive guise. It can fool enemies by altering its appearance.
|leafgreendex=When it changes form, an aurora appears. It absorbs attacks by altering its cellular structure.
|diamonddex=A Pokémon that is born through the mutation of the DNA of a space virus which is attached to a meteor.
|pearldex=A Pokémon that is born through the mutation of the DNA of a space virus which is attached to a meteor.
|}}

==Game locations==
{{Availability|
type=psychic |
gen=3 |
erarity=One |
earea=[[Birth Island]] (requires [[Auroraticket]]) |
frlgrarity=One |
frlgarea=[[Birth Island]] (requires [[Auroraticket]]) |
dprarity=None |
dparea=[[Pal Park]] |
palarea=Mountain |
}}
===In side games===

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{psychic color}};"
! Game
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Trozei!]]
| Random Agent Cards Mr. Who's Den
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]
| [[Meteor Cave]] (20F)
|-
| [[Pokémon Ranger]]
| [[Krokka Tunnel]] (Event mission 1)
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2]]
| [[Shining Hill]] (17F)
|}

==Base stats==
===Normal===
[[Image:386Deoxys.png|left|Neutral]]
{{BaseStats|
HP=50 |
Attack=150 |
Defense=50 |
SpAtk=150 |
SpDef=50 |
Speed=150 }}
<div style="clear: both;"></div>

===Attack form===
[[Image:386Deoxys-Attack.png|left|Attack form]]
{{BaseStats|
HP=50 |
Attack=180 |
Defense=20 |
SpAtk=180 |
SpDef=20 |
Speed=150 }}
<div style="clear: both;"></div>
===Defense form===
[[Image:386Deoxys-Defense.png|left|Defense form]]
{{BaseStats|
HP=50 |
Attack=70 |
Defense=160 |
SpAtk= 70 |
SpDef=160 |
Speed=90 }}
<div style="clear: both;"></div>
===Speed form===
[[Image:386Deoxys-Speed.png|left|Speed form]]
{{BaseStats|
HP=50 |
Attack=95 |
Defense=90 |
SpAtk= 95 |
SpDef=90 |
Speed=180 }}
<div style="clear: both;"></div>

==Type effectiveness==
This is the same for all modes, since all are solely of the {{t|Psychic}} type.

{{DP Type effectiveness|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting= 50 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 200 |
Ghost= 200 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 50 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 200 }}

==Learnset==
{{learnset intro|Deoxys}}

===By [[Level|leveling up]]===
{| border="1" style="background: #77777; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{psychic color}};"
! ROWSPAN=2 | Game || COLSPAN=4 | [[Generation III]] || COLSPAN=4 | [[Generation IV]]
|- border="1" style="background: #77777; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{psychic color}};"
! [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire|Normal]] || [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|Attack]] || [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|Defense]] || [[Pokémon Emerald|Speed]]
! Normal || Attack || Defense || Speed
|- style="text-align: center"
| Start || COLSPAN=4 | {{M|Leer}} {{M|Wrap}} || COLSPAN=4 | {{M|Leer}} {{M|Wrap}}
|- style="text-align: center"
| 5 || COLSPAN=4 | {{M|Night Shade}} || COLSPAN=4 |
|- style="text-align: center"
| 9 || COLSPAN=4 | || COLSPAN=4 | {{M|Night Shade}}
|- style="text-align: center"
| 10 || COLSPAN=3 | {{M|Teleport}} || {{M|Double Team}} || COLSPAN=4 |
|- style="text-align: center"
| 17 || COLSPAN=4 | || COLSPAN=3 | {{M|Teleport}} || {{M|Double Team}}
|- style="text-align: center"
| 15 || COLSPAN=2 | {{M|Knock Off}} || {{M|Taunt}} || {{M|Knock Off}} || COLSPAN=4 |
|- style="text-align: center"
| 20 || style="text-align: center" COLSPAN=2 | {{M|Pursuit}} || {{M|Spikes}} || {{M|Pursuit}} || COLSPAN=4 |
|- style="text-align: center"
| 25 || style="text-align: center" COLSPAN=4 | '''{{M|Psychic}}''' || COLSPAN=2 | {{M|Knock Off}} || {{M|Taunt}} || {{M|Knock Off}}
|- style="text-align: center"
| 30 || {{M|Snatch}} || {{M|Superpower}} || {{M|Snatch}} || {{M|Swift}} || COLSPAN=4 |
|- style="text-align: center"
| 33 || COLSPAN=4 | || COLSPAN=2 | {{M|Pursuit}} || {{M|{{M|Spikes}} || {{M|Pursuit}}
|- style="text-align: center"
| 35 || COLSPAN=2 | {{M|Cosmic Power}} || {{M|Iron Defense}} {{M|Amnesia}} || {{M|Agility}} || COLSPAN=4 |
|- style="text-align: center"
| 40 || {{M|Recover}} || {{M|Zap Cannon}} || COLSPAN=2 | {{M|Recover}} || COLSPAN=4 |
|- style="text-align: center"
| 41 || COLSPAN=4 | || COLSPAN=4 | '''{{M|Psychic}}'''
|- style="text-align: center"
| 45 || COLSPAN=4 | '''{{M|Psycho Boost}}''' || COLSPAN=4 |
|- style="text-align: center"
| 49 || COLSPAN=4 | || {{M|Snatch}} || {{M|Superpower}} || {{M|Snatch}} || {{M|Swift}}
|- style="text-align: center"
| 50 || COLSPAN=2 | {{M|Hyper Beam}} || {{M|Mirror Coat}} {{M|Counter}} || {{M|ExtremeSpeed}} || COLSPAN=4 |
|-style="text-align: center"
| 57 || COLSPAN=4 | || COLSPAN=4 | {{M|Psycho Shift}}
|- style="text-align: center"
| 65 || COLSPAN=4 | ||COLSPAN=4 | '''{{M|Zen Headbutt}}'''
|- style="text-align: center"
| 73 || COLSPAN=4 | || COLSPAN=2 | {{M|Cosmic Power}} || {{M|Iron Defense}} {{M|Amnesia}} || {{M|Agility}}
|- style="text-align: center"
| 81 || COLSPAN=4 | || {{M|Recover}} || {{M|Zap Cannon}} || COLSPAN=2 | {{M|Recover}}
|- style="text-align: center"
| 89 || COLSPAN=4 | || COLSPAN=4 | '''{{M|Psycho Boost}}'''
|- style="text-align: center"
| 97 || COLSPAN=4 | || COLSPAN=2 | {{M|Hyper Beam}} || {{M|Mirror Coat}} {{M|Counter}} || {{M|ExtremeSpeed}}
|}

===By [[TM]]/[[HM]]===
{| border="1" style="background: #77777; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{psychic color}};"
! Game
![[Generation III]]
![[Generation IV]]
|-
| TM01 || {{M|Focus Punch}} || {{M|Focus Punch}}
|-
| TM03 || {{M|Water Pulse}} || {{M|Water Pulse}}
|-
| TM04 || {{M|Calm Mind}} || {{M|Calm Mind}}
|-
| TM06 || {{m|Toxic}} || {{m|Toxic}}
|-
| TM10 || {{m|Hidden Power}} || {{m|Hidden Power}}
|-
| TM11 || {{M|Sunny Day}} || {{M|Sunny Day}}
|-
| TM12 || {{M|Taunt}} || {{M|Taunt}}
|-
| TM13 || {{M|Ice Beam}} || {{M|Ice Beam}}
|-
| TM15 || {{M|Hyper Beam}} || {{M|Hyper Beam}}
|-
| TM16 || {{M|Light Screen}} || {{M|Light Screen}}
|-
| TM17 || {{m|Protect}} || {{m|Protect}}
|-
| TM18 || {{M|Rain Dance}} || {{M|Rain Dance}}
|-
| TM20 || {{M|Safeguard}} || {{M|Safeguard}}
|-
| TM21 || {{m|Frustration}} || {{m|Frustration}}
|-
| TM22 || {{M|Solarbeam}} || {{M|Solarbeam}}
|-
| TM24 || {{M|Thunderbolt}} || {{M|Thunderbolt}}
|-
| TM25 || {{M|Thunder}} || {{M|Thunder}}
|-
| TM27 || {{m|Return}} || {{m|Return}}
|-
| TM29 || '''{{M|Psychic}}''' || '''{{M|Psychic}}'''
|-
| TM30 || {{M|Shadow Ball}} || {{M|Shadow Ball}}
|-
| TM31 || {{M|Brick Break}} || {{M|Brick Break}}
|-
| TM32 || {{M|Double Team}} || {{M|Double Team}}
|-
| TM33 || {{M|Reflect}} || {{M|Reflect}}
|-
| TM34 || {{M|Shock Wave}} || {{M|Shock Wave}}
|-
| TM39 || {{M|Rock Tomb}} || {{M|Rock Tomb}}
|-
| TM40 || {{M|Aerial Ace}} || {{M|Aerial Ace}}
|-
| TM41 || {{M|Torment}} || {{M|Torment}}
|-
| TM42 || {{m|Facade}} || {{m|Facade}}
|-
| TM43 || {{M|Secret Power}} || {{M|Secret Power}}
|-
| TM44 || {{M|Rest}} || {{M|Rest}}
|-
| TM48 || {{M|Skill Swap}} || {{M|Skill Swap}}
|-
| TM49 || {{M|Snatch}} || {{M|Snatch}}
|-
| TM52 || || {{M|Focus Blast}}
|-
| TM53 || || {{M|Energy Ball}}
|-
| TM56 || || {{M|Fling}}
|-
| TM57 || || {{M|Charge Beam}}
|-
| TM58 || || {{M|Endure}}
|-
| TM60 || || {{M|Drain Punch}}
|-
| TM67 || || {{M|Recycle}}
|-
| TM68 || || {{M|Giga Impact}}
|-
| TM70 || || {{M|Flash}}
|-
| TM72 || || {{M|Avalanche}}
|-
| TM73 || || {{M|Thunder Wave}}
|-
| TM76 || || {{M|Stealth Rock}}
|-
| TM77 || || {{M|Psych Up}}
|-
| TM80 || || {{M|Rock Slide}}
|-
| TM82 || || {{M|Sleep Talk}}
|-
| TM83 || || {{M|Natural Gift}}
|-
| TM84 || || {{M|Poison Jab}}
|-
| TM85 || || '''{{M|Dream Eater}}'''
|-
| TM86 || || {{M|Grass Knot}}
|-
| TM87 || || {{M|Swagger}}
|-
| TM90 || || {{M|Substitute}}
|-
| TM91 || || {{M|Flash Cannon}}
|-
| TM92 || || {{M|Trick Room}}
|-
| HM01 || {{M|Cut}} || {{M|Cut}}
|-
| HM04 || {{M|Strength}} || {{M|Strength}}
|-
| HM05 || {{M|Flash}} ||
|-
| HM06 || {{M|Rock Smash}} || {{M|Rock Smash}}
|}

===By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]===
{| border="1" style="background: #77777; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{psychic color}};"
! [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|FRLG]]
! [[Pokémon Emerald|Emerald]]
|-
| {{M|Body Slam}} || {{M|DynamicPunch}}
|-
| {{M|Counter}} || {{M|Endure}}
|-
| {{M|Double-Edge}} || {{M|Fire Punch}}
|-
| '''{{M|Dream Eater}}''' || {{M|Ice Punch}}
|-
| {{M|Mega Kick}} || {{M|Icy Wind}}
|-
| {{M|Mega Punch}} || {{M|Mud-Slap}}
|-
| {{M|Mimic}} || {{M|Psych Up}}
|-
| {{M|Rock Slide}} || {{M|Sleep Talk}}
|-
| {{M|Seismic Toss}} || {{M|Snore}}
|-
| {{M|Substitute}} || {{M|Swagger}}
|-
| {{M|Thunder Wave}} || {{M|Swift}}
|-
| || {{M|ThunderPunch}}
|}

==Side game data==

{{Side game|
type=psychic |
ndex=386 |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=no |
Deoxys= yes |
NP1= This world is but tiny in the vastness of space... |
NP2= This isn't good... Only half my health remains... |
NP3= I can't keep going this way... Must I flee back to space? |
NPL= I leveled up! Auroras and crystals fill me with power! |
AP1= Let me demonstrate my cosmic-level attack power! |
AP2= This isn't good... Only half my health remains... |
AP3= I can't keep going this way... Was my attack power insufficient? |
APL= I leveled up! Witness the true power of the Attack Form! |
DP1= Let me demonstrate my cosmic-level defense power! |
DP2= This isn't good... Only half my health remains... |
DP3= I can't keep going this way... Was my defensive power insufficient? |
DPL= I leveled up! Witness the true power of the Defense Form! |
SP1= Let me demonstrate my cosmic-level speed! |
SP2= This isn't good... Only half my health remains... |
SP3= I can't keep going this way... Was my speed insufficient? |
SPL= I leveled up! Witness the true power of the Speed Form! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=yes |
typeG= Psychic |
typeA= Psychic |
field= None |
loop= 13 (Attack form) 17 (Defense form) 3 (Speed form) 9 (Normal form) |
browser= Deoxys has the ability to transform four ways. Little is known about it, however. |
}}

==Evolution==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Basic (R/S) Normal Variation |
image=386.png |
name=Deoxys }}
|
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Basic (FR) Attack Variation |
image=386FR.png |
name=Deoxys}}
|
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Basic (LG) Defense Variation |
image=386LG.png |
name=Deoxys }}
|
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Basic (E) Speed Variation |
image=386E.png |
name=Deoxys }}
|}
==Sprites==
{{Sprite|
type=psychic|
gen=3|
gender=none|
ndex=386|
name=Deoxys|
animated=1|
}}

==Trivia==
* The attack form of Deoxys has the highest attack of any Pokémon.
* The speed form of Deoxys has the highest speed of any Pokémon.
* Deoxys's first three forms, Defense, Normal, and Attack have the initials D.N.A., the initials of {{wp|deoxyribonucleic acid}}, which Deoxys is named and based after.
* All of Deoxys's forms are available in [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl]]; however, unlike [[Generation III]], they can freely be changed in-game by inspecting the meteorites in [[Veilstone City]].
* In Pokémon Ranger, Deoxys's form changes every time its [[List of Pokémon by Fiore Browser number|Browser]] entry is accessed. It cycles in order from Normal Form to Attack Form to Defense Form to Speed Form and finally back to Normal Form.
* Deoxys was the first Pokémon to have its own unique battle music. The second Pokémon to have its own unique music was {{p|Arceus}}.
*Apparently Deoxys was able to lay eggs,not in the game but in the movie Destiny Deoxys.
===Events===
Because of the results of a poll among fans, Deoxys was given away along with pre-ordered tickets to [[The Rise of Darkrai|Dialga vs. Palkia vs. Darkrai]] in Japan. It is holding [[Nevermeltice]], a reference to the fact that Deoxys's first appearance in [[Destiny Deoxys]] is in Antarctica.
===Origin===
Deoxys appears to draw inspiration from certain representations of aliens and visual representations of the DNA double helix. Considering its viral nature and its ability to mutate, not to mention its location on a southern island, it may have been loosely based on the [[Glitch Pokémon]] [[Missingno.]].
====Name origin====
Deoxys's name is an abbreviation of ''{{wp|DNA|deoxyribonucleic acid}}'', or DNA, the medium of genetic code in many cellular organisms.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Deoxys
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Deoxys
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 테오키스 ''Teokis''

=External links=
* [[wp:Deoxys|Article on Wikipedia]]
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[[ja:デオキシス]]
[[pl:Deoxys]]
[[pt:Deoxys (pokémon)]]

Deoxys (Pokémon)

2008-05-11T07:57:51Z

Uxie legend: /* Physiology */

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Jirachi | next=Turtwig }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Deoxys |
jname=デオキシス |
tmname=Deoxys |
image=386Deoxys.png |
caption=Artwork from R/S/E/FR/LG |
ndex=386 |
hdex=202 |
fdex=211 |
typen=1 |
type1=Psychic |
type2= |
species=DNA |
height-ftin=5′07″ |
height-m=1.7 |
weight-lbs=134.0 |
weight-kg=60.8 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Pressure |
ability2= |
egggroupn=0 |
egggroup1=No eggs |
egggroup2= |
hatchsteps=30,720 |
effortyield=1 Atk, 1 SpA, 1 Spd |
expyield=215 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gender=none |
female=0 |
male=0 |
color=Red |
catchrate=3 |
pokefordex=deoxys |
generation=3 |
footnotes=}}
'''Deoxys''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: デオキシス ''Deoxys'') is a {{t|Psychic}}-type Pokémon.

Deoxys has four different forms. In [[Generation III]], its form depends on what game is being played. In [[Generation IV]], its form can be changed at will in [[Veilstone City]].

Deoxys evolves neither to anything, nor from anything, and is the last Pokémon in the [[List of Pokémon by Hoenn Dex number|Hoenn Dex]] and [[List of Pokémon by National Dex number|National Dex]] within [[Generation III]].

=Biology=
The shape of Deoxys is based on a strand of {{wp|DNA}}.

==Physiology==
Deoxys has four forms, each with different appearance. The main things that are constant for all four forms is that Deoxys's dominant color is orange with a bluish-green face that has a purple stripe where a nose would be and white circular eyes and the crystalline organ in its chest:

The "Normal" form has skinny legs that come to a point. The upper-legs have a single blue stripe that goes down to the knees. Deoxys can sometimes have bluish-green arms with five-fingered hands and a red "Y" shape that runs down the arms' entire length. It has an orange skin that covers it except for its abdomen. It also been seen with two cord-like tentacles (one red and one blue) in place of the arms. Deoxys also has two trapezoid-shaped "ears".

The "Attack" form has basically the same leg-shape as the Normal Form, but the stripes run down for mostly all of the legs' length and Deoxys has a spike on each of its knees. Deoxys has a pair of tentacles that come to a point were its arms would be and cannot be twisted. Deoxys has triangle-shaped "ears" and a single spike on top of its head. Most of the orange "skin" has disappeared.

The "Defense" form has wide legs that are somewhat flat at the end and have a bluish-green spot on each of the knees. Deoxys has flat, broad tentacles that also can't be twisted and Deoxys's head has been fused with its body. Its "skin" has thickened and covered all of its body parts for greater defense.

The "Speed" form has gray, skinny legs and a gray body. Deoxys only has one tentacle on each side of its body. The back of Deoxys's head is elongated and comes to a point. It has also lost most of its orange "skin" for better aerodynamics serving allowing faster movement.
===Gender differences===
Deoxys is a genderless species.
===Special abilities===
Deoxys mostly has the same abilities as {{p|Mewtwo}} and the aforementioned ability to change its appearance to suit whatever situation it may be in during battle. [[Destiny Deoxys]] shows a Deoxys creating duplicates of itself to help achieve its objective.

Deoxys is the [[Signature move|only known Pokémon]] that learns {{m|Psycho Boost}}.

==Behavior==
Deoxys tend to keep to themselves, but befriend humans they trust.

==Habitat==
[[Image:Rare.gif|right|frame|[[List of Pokémon by habitat#Rare Pokémon|Rare Pokémon]]]]
Deoxys was a virus resting in a stray meteor, and while it flew through the atmosphere, the virus mutated into Deoxys.

==Diet==
{{main|Pokémon food}}

=In the anime=
[[Image:Deoxys anime.jpg|thumb|(Speed Form) Deoxys (left) and Swellow battle it out]]
Deoxys first appeared in ''[[Destiny Deoxys]]''. One with a green crystalline organ fell to earth in a meteorite. A second Deoxys (with a purple crystalline organ) came to La Rousse City to search for it but ended up in an epic battle with {{p|Rayquaza}}. As [[Pokémon Emerald]] had not been released when the movie was produced, only its {{stat|Defense}}, Normal and {{stat|Attack}} forms appeared.

In the anime, Deoxys's cry was a loud but short foghorn like blast.

Deoxys also appeared in the special episode ''[[AG171|Pokémon Ranger - Deoxys Crisis!]]''. This is where Deoxys's {{stat|Speed}} form debuted.

=In the manga=

=In the TCG=
{{main|Deoxys (TCG)}}

=Other appearances=
===[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]===
When unleashed from a [[Poké Ball]], an Attack Form Deoxys will sometimes appear. It floats gently towards the top of the screen. It will spin gracefully and begin to glow. When fully facing the front, it will cast a powerful {{m|Hyper Beam}}, sending anyone in its path flying.

=Game data=
==Pokédex entries==
{{Dex
|type=psychic
|gen=3
|rubydex=The DNA of a space virus underwent a sudden mutation upon exposure to a laser beam and resulted in Deoxys. The crystalline organ on this Pokémon's chest appears to be its brain.
|sapphiredex=Deoxys emerged from a virus that came from space. It is highly intelligent and wields psychokinetic powers. This Pokémon shoots lasers from the crystalline organ on its chest.
|emeralddex=A Pokémon that mutated from an extraterrestrial virus exposed to a laser beam. Its body is configured for superior agility and speed.
|firereddex=This Deoxys has transformed into its aggressive guise. It can fool enemies by altering its appearance.
|leafgreendex=When it changes form, an aurora appears. It absorbs attacks by altering its cellular structure.
|diamonddex=A Pokémon that is born through the mutation of the DNA of a space virus which is attached to a meteor.
|pearldex=A Pokémon that is born through the mutation of the DNA of a space virus which is attached to a meteor.
|}}

==Game locations==
{{Availability|
type=psychic |
gen=3 |
erarity=One |
earea=[[Birth Island]] (requires [[Auroraticket]]) |
frlgrarity=One |
frlgarea=[[Birth Island]] (requires [[Auroraticket]]) |
dprarity=None |
dparea=[[Pal Park]] |
palarea=Mountain |
}}
===In side games===

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{psychic color}};"
! Game
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Trozei!]]
| Random Agent Cards Mr. Who's Den
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]
| [[Meteor Cave]] (20F)
|-
| [[Pokémon Ranger]]
| [[Krokka Tunnel]] (Event mission 1)
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2]]
| [[Shining Hill]] (17F)
|}

==Base stats==
===Normal===
[[Image:386Deoxys.png|left|Neutral]]
{{BaseStats|
HP=50 |
Attack=150 |
Defense=50 |
SpAtk=150 |
SpDef=50 |
Speed=150 }}
<div style="clear: both;"></div>

===Attack form===
[[Image:386Deoxys-Attack.png|left|Attack form]]
{{BaseStats|
HP=50 |
Attack=180 |
Defense=20 |
SpAtk=180 |
SpDef=20 |
Speed=150 }}
<div style="clear: both;"></div>
===Defense form===
[[Image:386Deoxys-Defense.png|left|Defense form]]
{{BaseStats|
HP=50 |
Attack=70 |
Defense=160 |
SpAtk= 70 |
SpDef=160 |
Speed=90 }}
<div style="clear: both;"></div>
===Speed form===
[[Image:386Deoxys-Speed.png|left|Speed form]]
{{BaseStats|
HP=50 |
Attack=95 |
Defense=90 |
SpAtk= 95 |
SpDef=90 |
Speed=180 }}
<div style="clear: both;"></div>

==Type effectiveness==
This is the same for all modes, since all are solely of the {{t|Psychic}} type.

{{DP Type effectiveness|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting= 50 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 200 |
Ghost= 200 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 50 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 200 }}

==Learnset==
{{learnset intro|Deoxys}}

===By [[Level|leveling up]]===
{| border="1" style="background: #77777; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{psychic color}};"
! ROWSPAN=2 | Game || COLSPAN=4 | [[Generation III]] || COLSPAN=4 | [[Generation IV]]
|- border="1" style="background: #77777; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{psychic color}};"
! [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire|Normal]] || [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|Attack]] || [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|Defense]] || [[Pokémon Emerald|Speed]]
! Normal || Attack || Defense || Speed
|- style="text-align: center"
| Start || COLSPAN=4 | {{M|Leer}} {{M|Wrap}} || COLSPAN=4 | {{M|Leer}} {{M|Wrap}}
|- style="text-align: center"
| 5 || COLSPAN=4 | {{M|Night Shade}} || COLSPAN=4 |
|- style="text-align: center"
| 9 || COLSPAN=4 | || COLSPAN=4 | {{M|Night Shade}}
|- style="text-align: center"
| 10 || COLSPAN=3 | {{M|Teleport}} || {{M|Double Team}} || COLSPAN=4 |
|- style="text-align: center"
| 17 || COLSPAN=4 | || COLSPAN=3 | {{M|Teleport}} || {{M|Double Team}}
|- style="text-align: center"
| 15 || COLSPAN=2 | {{M|Knock Off}} || {{M|Taunt}} || {{M|Knock Off}} || COLSPAN=4 |
|- style="text-align: center"
| 20 || style="text-align: center" COLSPAN=2 | {{M|Pursuit}} || {{M|Spikes}} || {{M|Pursuit}} || COLSPAN=4 |
|- style="text-align: center"
| 25 || style="text-align: center" COLSPAN=4 | '''{{M|Psychic}}''' || COLSPAN=2 | {{M|Knock Off}} || {{M|Taunt}} || {{M|Knock Off}}
|- style="text-align: center"
| 30 || {{M|Snatch}} || {{M|Superpower}} || {{M|Snatch}} || {{M|Swift}} || COLSPAN=4 |
|- style="text-align: center"
| 33 || COLSPAN=4 | || COLSPAN=2 | {{M|Pursuit}} || {{M|{{M|Spikes}} || {{M|Pursuit}}
|- style="text-align: center"
| 35 || COLSPAN=2 | {{M|Cosmic Power}} || {{M|Iron Defense}} {{M|Amnesia}} || {{M|Agility}} || COLSPAN=4 |
|- style="text-align: center"
| 40 || {{M|Recover}} || {{M|Zap Cannon}} || COLSPAN=2 | {{M|Recover}} || COLSPAN=4 |
|- style="text-align: center"
| 41 || COLSPAN=4 | || COLSPAN=4 | '''{{M|Psychic}}'''
|- style="text-align: center"
| 45 || COLSPAN=4 | '''{{M|Psycho Boost}}''' || COLSPAN=4 |
|- style="text-align: center"
| 49 || COLSPAN=4 | || {{M|Snatch}} || {{M|Superpower}} || {{M|Snatch}} || {{M|Swift}}
|- style="text-align: center"
| 50 || COLSPAN=2 | {{M|Hyper Beam}} || {{M|Mirror Coat}} {{M|Counter}} || {{M|ExtremeSpeed}} || COLSPAN=4 |
|-style="text-align: center"
| 57 || COLSPAN=4 | || COLSPAN=4 | {{M|Psycho Shift}}
|- style="text-align: center"
| 65 || COLSPAN=4 | ||COLSPAN=4 | '''{{M|Zen Headbutt}}'''
|- style="text-align: center"
| 73 || COLSPAN=4 | || COLSPAN=2 | {{M|Cosmic Power}} || {{M|Iron Defense}} {{M|Amnesia}} || {{M|Agility}}
|- style="text-align: center"
| 81 || COLSPAN=4 | || {{M|Recover}} || {{M|Zap Cannon}} || COLSPAN=2 | {{M|Recover}}
|- style="text-align: center"
| 89 || COLSPAN=4 | || COLSPAN=4 | '''{{M|Psycho Boost}}'''
|- style="text-align: center"
| 97 || COLSPAN=4 | || COLSPAN=2 | {{M|Hyper Beam}} || {{M|Mirror Coat}} {{M|Counter}} || {{M|ExtremeSpeed}}
|}

===By [[TM]]/[[HM]]===
{| border="1" style="background: #77777; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{psychic color}};"
! Game
![[Generation III]]
![[Generation IV]]
|-
| TM01 || {{M|Focus Punch}} || {{M|Focus Punch}}
|-
| TM03 || {{M|Water Pulse}} || {{M|Water Pulse}}
|-
| TM04 || {{M|Calm Mind}} || {{M|Calm Mind}}
|-
| TM06 || {{m|Toxic}} || {{m|Toxic}}
|-
| TM10 || {{m|Hidden Power}} || {{m|Hidden Power}}
|-
| TM11 || {{M|Sunny Day}} || {{M|Sunny Day}}
|-
| TM12 || {{M|Taunt}} || {{M|Taunt}}
|-
| TM13 || {{M|Ice Beam}} || {{M|Ice Beam}}
|-
| TM15 || {{M|Hyper Beam}} || {{M|Hyper Beam}}
|-
| TM16 || {{M|Light Screen}} || {{M|Light Screen}}
|-
| TM17 || {{m|Protect}} || {{m|Protect}}
|-
| TM18 || {{M|Rain Dance}} || {{M|Rain Dance}}
|-
| TM20 || {{M|Safeguard}} || {{M|Safeguard}}
|-
| TM21 || {{m|Frustration}} || {{m|Frustration}}
|-
| TM22 || {{M|Solarbeam}} || {{M|Solarbeam}}
|-
| TM24 || {{M|Thunderbolt}} || {{M|Thunderbolt}}
|-
| TM25 || {{M|Thunder}} || {{M|Thunder}}
|-
| TM27 || {{m|Return}} || {{m|Return}}
|-
| TM29 || '''{{M|Psychic}}''' || '''{{M|Psychic}}'''
|-
| TM30 || {{M|Shadow Ball}} || {{M|Shadow Ball}}
|-
| TM31 || {{M|Brick Break}} || {{M|Brick Break}}
|-
| TM32 || {{M|Double Team}} || {{M|Double Team}}
|-
| TM33 || {{M|Reflect}} || {{M|Reflect}}
|-
| TM34 || {{M|Shock Wave}} || {{M|Shock Wave}}
|-
| TM39 || {{M|Rock Tomb}} || {{M|Rock Tomb}}
|-
| TM40 || {{M|Aerial Ace}} || {{M|Aerial Ace}}
|-
| TM41 || {{M|Torment}} || {{M|Torment}}
|-
| TM42 || {{m|Facade}} || {{m|Facade}}
|-
| TM43 || {{M|Secret Power}} || {{M|Secret Power}}
|-
| TM44 || {{M|Rest}} || {{M|Rest}}
|-
| TM48 || {{M|Skill Swap}} || {{M|Skill Swap}}
|-
| TM49 || {{M|Snatch}} || {{M|Snatch}}
|-
| TM52 || || {{M|Focus Blast}}
|-
| TM53 || || {{M|Energy Ball}}
|-
| TM56 || || {{M|Fling}}
|-
| TM57 || || {{M|Charge Beam}}
|-
| TM58 || || {{M|Endure}}
|-
| TM60 || || {{M|Drain Punch}}
|-
| TM67 || || {{M|Recycle}}
|-
| TM68 || || {{M|Giga Impact}}
|-
| TM70 || || {{M|Flash}}
|-
| TM72 || || {{M|Avalanche}}
|-
| TM73 || || {{M|Thunder Wave}}
|-
| TM76 || || {{M|Stealth Rock}}
|-
| TM77 || || {{M|Psych Up}}
|-
| TM80 || || {{M|Rock Slide}}
|-
| TM82 || || {{M|Sleep Talk}}
|-
| TM83 || || {{M|Natural Gift}}
|-
| TM84 || || {{M|Poison Jab}}
|-
| TM85 || || '''{{M|Dream Eater}}'''
|-
| TM86 || || {{M|Grass Knot}}
|-
| TM87 || || {{M|Swagger}}
|-
| TM90 || || {{M|Substitute}}
|-
| TM91 || || {{M|Flash Cannon}}
|-
| TM92 || || {{M|Trick Room}}
|-
| HM01 || {{M|Cut}} || {{M|Cut}}
|-
| HM04 || {{M|Strength}} || {{M|Strength}}
|-
| HM05 || {{M|Flash}} ||
|-
| HM06 || {{M|Rock Smash}} || {{M|Rock Smash}}
|}

===By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]===
{| border="1" style="background: #77777; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{psychic color}};"
! [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|FRLG]]
! [[Pokémon Emerald|Emerald]]
|-
| {{M|Body Slam}} || {{M|DynamicPunch}}
|-
| {{M|Counter}} || {{M|Endure}}
|-
| {{M|Double-Edge}} || {{M|Fire Punch}}
|-
| '''{{M|Dream Eater}}''' || {{M|Ice Punch}}
|-
| {{M|Mega Kick}} || {{M|Icy Wind}}
|-
| {{M|Mega Punch}} || {{M|Mud-Slap}}
|-
| {{M|Mimic}} || {{M|Psych Up}}
|-
| {{M|Rock Slide}} || {{M|Sleep Talk}}
|-
| {{M|Seismic Toss}} || {{M|Snore}}
|-
| {{M|Substitute}} || {{M|Swagger}}
|-
| {{M|Thunder Wave}} || {{M|Swift}}
|-
| || {{M|ThunderPunch}}
|}

==Side game data==

{{Side game|
type=psychic |
ndex=386 |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=no |
Deoxys= yes |
NP1= This world is but tiny in the vastness of space... |
NP2= This isn't good... Only half my health remains... |
NP3= I can't keep going this way... Must I flee back to space? |
NPL= I leveled up! Auroras and crystals fill me with power! |
AP1= Let me demonstrate my cosmic-level attack power! |
AP2= This isn't good... Only half my health remains... |
AP3= I can't keep going this way... Was my attack power insufficient? |
APL= I leveled up! Witness the true power of the Attack Form! |
DP1= Let me demonstrate my cosmic-level defense power! |
DP2= This isn't good... Only half my health remains... |
DP3= I can't keep going this way... Was my defensive power insufficient? |
DPL= I leveled up! Witness the true power of the Defense Form! |
SP1= Let me demonstrate my cosmic-level speed! |
SP2= This isn't good... Only half my health remains... |
SP3= I can't keep going this way... Was my speed insufficient? |
SPL= I leveled up! Witness the true power of the Speed Form! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=yes |
typeG= Psychic |
typeA= Psychic |
field= None |
loop= 13 (Attack form) 17 (Defense form) 3 (Speed form) 9 (Normal form) |
browser= Deoxys has the ability to transform four ways. Little is known about it, however. |
}}

==Evolution==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Basic (R/S) Normal Variation |
image=386.png |
name=Deoxys }}
|
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Basic (FR) Attack Variation |
image=386FR.png |
name=Deoxys}}
|
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Basic (LG) Defense Variation |
image=386LG.png |
name=Deoxys }}
|
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Basic (E) Speed Variation |
image=386E.png |
name=Deoxys }}
|}
==Sprites==
{{Sprite|
type=psychic|
gen=3|
gender=none|
ndex=386|
name=Deoxys|
animated=1|
}}

==Trivia==
* The attack form of Deoxys has the highest attack of any Pokémon.
* The speed form of Deoxys has the highest speed of any Pokémon.
* Deoxys's first three forms, Defense, Normal, and Attack have the initials D.N.A., the initials of {{wp|deoxyribonucleic acid}}, which Deoxys is named and based after.
* All of Deoxys's forms are available in [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl]]; however, unlike [[Generation III]], they can freely be changed in-game by inspecting the meteorites in [[Veilstone City]].
* In Pokémon Ranger, Deoxys's form changes every time its [[List of Pokémon by Fiore Browser number|Browser]] entry is accessed. It cycles in order from Normal Form to Attack Form to Defense Form to Speed Form and finally back to Normal Form.
* Deoxys was the first Pokémon to have its own unique battle music. The second Pokémon to have its own unique music was {{p|Arceus}}.
===Events===
Because of the results of a poll among fans, Deoxys was given away along with pre-ordered tickets to [[The Rise of Darkrai|Dialga vs. Palkia vs. Darkrai]] in Japan. It is holding [[Nevermeltice]], a reference to the fact that Deoxys's first appearance in [[Destiny Deoxys]] is in Antarctica.
===Origin===
Deoxys appears to draw inspiration from certain representations of aliens and visual representations of the DNA double helix. Considering its viral nature and its ability to mutate, not to mention its location on a southern island, it may have been loosely based on the [[Glitch Pokémon]] [[Missingno.]].
====Name origin====
Deoxys's name is an abbreviation of ''{{wp|DNA|deoxyribonucleic acid}}'', or DNA, the medium of genetic code in many cellular organisms.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Deoxys
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Deoxys
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 테오키스 ''Teokis''

=External links=
* [[wp:Deoxys|Article on Wikipedia]]
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Cacturne (Pokémon)

2008-05-11T07:48:16Z

Uxie legend: /* Physiology */

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Cacnea | next=Swablu }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Cacturne |
jname=ノクタス |
tmname=Noctus |
image=332Cacturne.png|size=130|
caption=Artwork from R/S/E |
ndex=332 |
hdex=120 |
adex=240 |
typen=2 |
type1=Grass |
type2=Dark |
species=Scarecrow |
height-ftin=4′03″ |
height-m=1.3 |
weight-lbs=170.6 |
weight-kg=77.4 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Sand Veil |
ability2= |
egggroupn=2 |
egggroup1=Plant |
egggroup2=Humanshape |
hatchsteps=5,120 |
effortyield=1 Atk, 1 SpA |
expyield=177 |
lv100exp=1,059,860 |
gender=both |
female=50 |
male=50 |
color=Green |
catchrate=60 |
pokefordex=cacturne |
generation=3 |
footnotes=}}
'''Cacturne''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: ノクタス ''Noctus'') is a {{2t|Grass|Dark}}-type Pokémon.

=Biology=
==Physiology==
These peculiar Pokémon have a humanoid appearance, they are covered with spikes, and are nocturnal pokemon.Apparently, Cacturne are able to live for thousands of years,after their blood turns into sand.

===Gender differences===
A female Cacturne has a big, dark-green rhombus where a male Cacturne has two small, dark-green rhombuses.

===Special abilities===
Aside from its numerous poison abilities, Cacturne also carries Sand Veil. In a [[Weather conditions#Sandstorm|Sandstorm]], Cacturne's ability to avoid attacks is raised, giving it a sort of "home field advantage".

Cacturne, and its pre-evolution, {{p|Cacnea}}, are the [[Signature move|only known Pokémon]] that learn {{m|Needle Arm}}.

==Behavior==
Cacturne are usually quiet during the daytime, but at night it develops an aggressive attitude, packing up in groups and lurking about stalking for prey, exhausted from the barren desert.

==Habitat==
[[Image:Roughterrain.gif|right|frame|[[List of Pokémon by habitat#Rough-terrain Pokémon|Rough-terrain Pokémon]]]]
Cacturne prefer to live in deserts.

==Diet==
{{main|Pokémon food}}

=In the anime=
[[Harley]] owns a {{TP|Harley|Cacturne}}. It first appeared in ''[[AG103|A Cacturne for the Worse]]'', and has been Harley's main and best [[Pokémon]] since.

=In the manga=
=In the TCG=
{{main|Cacturne (TCG)}}

=Game data=
==Pokédex entries==
{{Dex
|type=grass
|gen=3
|rubydex=During the daytime, Cacturne remains unmoving so that it does not lose any moisture to the harsh desert sun. This Pokémon becomes active at night when the temperature drops.
|sapphiredex=If a traveler is going through a desert in the thick of night, Cacturne will follow in a ragtag group. The Pokémon are biding their time, waiting for the traveler to tire and become incapable of moving.
|emeralddex=After spending thousands of years in harsh deserts, its blood transformed into the same substances as sand. It is nocturnal, so it hunts at night.
|firereddex=It lives in deserts. It becomes active at night when it hunts for prey exhausted from the desert's heat.
|leafgreendex=It lives in deserts. It becomes active at night when it hunts for prey exhausted from the desert's heat.
|diamonddex=It becomes active at night, seeking prey that is exhausted from the day's desert heat.
|pearldex=It becomes active at night, seeking prey that is exhausted from the day's desert heat.
|}}

==Game locations==
{{Availability|
type=grass |
gen=3 |
rsarea=[[Evolve]] {{p|Cacnea}} |
earea=[[Evolve]] {{p|Cacnea}} |
dprarity=Common |
dparea={{rt|228}} |
palarea=Mountain |
}}
===In side games===

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{grass color}};"
! Game
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire]]
| Evolve from {{p|Cacnea}}
|-
| [[Pokémon Trozei!]]
| Secret Storage 2 Trozei Battle Mr. Who's Den
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]
| Evolve from {{p|Cacnea}}
|-
| [[Pokémon Ranger Batonnage]]
| [[Habura Desert]]
|}

==Base stats==
{{BaseStats|
HP=70 |
Attack=115 |
Defense=60 |
SpAtk=115 |
SpDef=60 |
Speed=55 }}

==Type effectiveness==
{{DP type effectiveness|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=200 |
Flying= 200 |
Poison= 200 |
Ground= 50 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 400 |
Ghost= 50 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric= 50 |
Psychic= 0 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 50 }}

Note: if {{m|Miracle Eye}} is used on Cacturne, the effectiveness of {{t|Psychic}} attacks will be 1×.

==Learnset==
{{evolved learnset intro|Cacturne}}

===By [[Level|leveling up]]===
<CENTER>
{| border="1" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{grass color}};"
! ROWSPAN=2 | Level
! COLSPAN=2 | [[Generation III]]
! ROWSPAN=2 | [[Generation IV]]
|- style="background: #{{grass color}};"
! RSE || FR/LG
|-
| 33 || COLSPAN=2 | || {{M|Spikes}}
|-
| 35 ||COLSPAN=2 | {{M|Spikes}} ||
|-
| 41 || COLSPAN=2 |'''{{M|Needle Arm}}''' || '''{{M|Sucker Punch}}'''
|-
| 47 || COLSPAN=2 |{{M|Cotton Spore}} || '''{{m|Payback}}'''
|-
| 53 || COLSPAN=2 | {{M|Sandstorm}} || '''{{M|Needle Arm}}'''
|-
| 59 || || {{M|Destiny Bond}} || {{M|Cotton Spore}}
|-
| 65 || COLSPAN=2 | || {{M|Sandstorm}}
|-
| 71 || COLSPAN=2 | || {{M|Destiny Bond}}
|}
</CENTER>

===By [[TM]]/[[HM]]===
<CENTER>
{| border="1" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{grass color}};"
! # || [[Generation III]]
! [[Generation IV]]
|-
| TM01 || {{M|Focus Punch}}|| {{M|Focus Punch}}
|-
| TM06 || {{m|Toxic}}|| {{m|Toxic}}
|-
| TM09 || '''{{M|Bullet Seed}}'''|| '''{{M|Bullet Seed}}'''
|-
| TM10 || {{m|Hidden Power}}|| {{m|Hidden Power}}
|-
| TM11 || {{M|Sunny Day}}|| {{M|Sunny Day}}
|-
| TM15 || {{M|Hyper Beam}}|| {{M|Hyper Beam}}
|-
| TM17 || {{m|Protect}}|| {{m|Protect}}
|-
| TM19 || '''{{M|Giga Drain}}''' || '''{{M|Giga Drain}}'''
|-
| TM21 || {{m|Frustration}}|| {{m|Frustration}}
|-
| TM22 || '''{{M|SolarBeam}}'''|| '''{{M|SolarBeam}}'''
|-
| TM27 || {{m|Return}}|| {{m|Return}}
|-
| TM31 || || {{m|Brick Break}}
|-
| TM32 || {{M|Double Team}}|| {{M|Double Team}}
|-
| TM37 || {{M|Sandstorm}} || {{M|Sandstorm}}
|-
| TM42 || {{m|Facade}} || {{m|Facade}}
|-
| TM43 || {{M|Secret Power}} || {{M|Secret Power}}
|-
| TM44 || {{M|Rest}} || {{M|Rest}}
|-
| TM45 || {{M|Attract}} || {{M|Attract}}
|-
| TM53 || || '''{{m|Energy Ball}}'''
|-
| TM56 || || '''{{m|Fling}}'''
|-
| TM58 || || {{m|Endure}}
|-
| TM60 || || {{m|Drain Punch}}
|-
| TM66 || || '''{{m|Payback}}'''
|-
| TM68 || || '''{{m|Giga Impact}}'''
|-
| TM70 || || {{m|Flash}}
|-
| TM75 || || {{m|Swords Dance}}
|-
| TM78 || || {{m|Captivate}}
|-
| TM79 || || '''{{m|Dark Pulse}}'''
|-
| TM82 || || {{m|Sleep Talk}}
|-
| TM83 || || {{m|Natural Gift}}
|-
| TM84 || || {{m|Poison Jab}}
|-
| TM86 || || '''{{m|Grass Knot}}'''
|-
| TM87 || || {{m|Swagger}}
|-
| TM90 || || {{m|Substitute}}
|-
| HM01 || {{M|Cut}} || {{M|Cut}}
|-
| HM04 || {{M|Strength}} || {{M|Strength}}
|-
| HM05 || {{M|Flash}} ||
|}
</CENTER>

===By [[breeding]]===
* {{m|Acid}}
* {{m|Counter}}
* {{m|DynamicPunch}}
* {{m|GrassWhistle}}
* {{m|Teeter Dance}}

Only in [[Generation IV]] games:
* {{m|Low Kick}}
* '''{{M|Magical Leaf}}'''
* '''{{m|Seed Bomb}}'''
* {{m|SmellingSalt}}

===By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]===

In [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|Pokémon FireRed, LeafGreen]] and [[Pokémon Emerald]]

*{{M|Body Slam}}
*{{m|Counter}}
*{{M|Double Edge}}
*{{m|Mega Kick}}
*{{m|Mega Punch}}
*{{M|Mimic}}
*{{m|Seismic Toss}}
*{{M|Substitute}}
*{{m|Swords Dance}}

In [[Pokémon Emerald]]
*{{m|DynamicPunch}}
*{{M|Endure}}
*{{m|Fury Cutter}}
*{{m|Mud Slap}}
*{{M|Sleep Talk}}
*{{M|Snore}}
*{{M|Swagger}}
*{{m|ThunderPunch}}

==Side game data==

{{Side game|
type=grass |
ndex=332 |
PinRSevo=yes |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=Evolve |
area=Furnace Desert |
P1= It's too hot in the desert, so I like it at night. |
P2= I'm not looking good. I lost around half my HP so far... |
P3= I'm about done. My body's stiffening up tight... |
PL= Fufufu... I leveled up! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=no |
Ranger2=yes |
typeG2= Dark |
typeA2= Dark |
field2= Crush x2 |
}}

==Evolution==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="5" |
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Basic |
image=331.png |
name=Cacnea }}
|
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Level 32 |
image=332.png |
name=Cacturne }}
|}

==Sprites==
{{Sprite|
type=grass|
gen=3|
gender=both|
ndex=332|
name=Cacturne|
}}

==Trivia==
===Origin===
Cacturne is based on a {{wp|scarecrow}} with cactus-like features.
====Name origin====
Cacturne's name is a combination of ''{{wp|cactus}}'' and ''{{wp|nocturnal}}''. Its Japanese name is also a combination of these words, only in a different order.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Noktuska
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Cacturne
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 밤선인 ''Bamseon'in''

=Related articles=
*[[Harley's Cacturne]]

=External links=
*[[wp:Cacturne|Article on Wikipedia]]

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Cacnea | next=Swablu }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[de:Noktuska]]
[[ja:ノクタス]]
[[Category:Pokémon that are part of a two-stage evolutionary line]]
[[pt:Cacturne (pokémon)]]

Cacturne (Pokémon)

2008-05-11T07:46:37Z

Uxie legend: /* Physiology */

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Cacnea | next=Swablu }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Cacturne |
jname=ノクタス |
tmname=Noctus |
image=332Cacturne.png|size=130|
caption=Artwork from R/S/E |
ndex=332 |
hdex=120 |
adex=240 |
typen=2 |
type1=Grass |
type2=Dark |
species=Scarecrow |
height-ftin=4′03″ |
height-m=1.3 |
weight-lbs=170.6 |
weight-kg=77.4 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Sand Veil |
ability2= |
egggroupn=2 |
egggroup1=Plant |
egggroup2=Humanshape |
hatchsteps=5,120 |
effortyield=1 Atk, 1 SpA |
expyield=177 |
lv100exp=1,059,860 |
gender=both |
female=50 |
male=50 |
color=Green |
catchrate=60 |
pokefordex=cacturne |
generation=3 |
footnotes=}}
'''Cacturne''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: ノクタス ''Noctus'') is a {{2t|Grass|Dark}}-type Pokémon.

=Biology=
==Physiology==
These peculiar Pokémon have a humanoid appearance, they are covered with spikes, and are nocturnal pokemon.

===Gender differences===
A female Cacturne has a big, dark-green rhombus where a male Cacturne has two small, dark-green rhombuses.

===Special abilities===
Aside from its numerous poison abilities, Cacturne also carries Sand Veil. In a [[Weather conditions#Sandstorm|Sandstorm]], Cacturne's ability to avoid attacks is raised, giving it a sort of "home field advantage".

Cacturne, and its pre-evolution, {{p|Cacnea}}, are the [[Signature move|only known Pokémon]] that learn {{m|Needle Arm}}.

==Behavior==
Cacturne are usually quiet during the daytime, but at night it develops an aggressive attitude, packing up in groups and lurking about stalking for prey, exhausted from the barren desert.

==Habitat==
[[Image:Roughterrain.gif|right|frame|[[List of Pokémon by habitat#Rough-terrain Pokémon|Rough-terrain Pokémon]]]]
Cacturne prefer to live in deserts.

==Diet==
{{main|Pokémon food}}

=In the anime=
[[Harley]] owns a {{TP|Harley|Cacturne}}. It first appeared in ''[[AG103|A Cacturne for the Worse]]'', and has been Harley's main and best [[Pokémon]] since.

=In the manga=
=In the TCG=
{{main|Cacturne (TCG)}}

=Game data=
==Pokédex entries==
{{Dex
|type=grass
|gen=3
|rubydex=During the daytime, Cacturne remains unmoving so that it does not lose any moisture to the harsh desert sun. This Pokémon becomes active at night when the temperature drops.
|sapphiredex=If a traveler is going through a desert in the thick of night, Cacturne will follow in a ragtag group. The Pokémon are biding their time, waiting for the traveler to tire and become incapable of moving.
|emeralddex=After spending thousands of years in harsh deserts, its blood transformed into the same substances as sand. It is nocturnal, so it hunts at night.
|firereddex=It lives in deserts. It becomes active at night when it hunts for prey exhausted from the desert's heat.
|leafgreendex=It lives in deserts. It becomes active at night when it hunts for prey exhausted from the desert's heat.
|diamonddex=It becomes active at night, seeking prey that is exhausted from the day's desert heat.
|pearldex=It becomes active at night, seeking prey that is exhausted from the day's desert heat.
|}}

==Game locations==
{{Availability|
type=grass |
gen=3 |
rsarea=[[Evolve]] {{p|Cacnea}} |
earea=[[Evolve]] {{p|Cacnea}} |
dprarity=Common |
dparea={{rt|228}} |
palarea=Mountain |
}}
===In side games===

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{grass color}};"
! Game
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire]]
| Evolve from {{p|Cacnea}}
|-
| [[Pokémon Trozei!]]
| Secret Storage 2 Trozei Battle Mr. Who's Den
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]
| Evolve from {{p|Cacnea}}
|-
| [[Pokémon Ranger Batonnage]]
| [[Habura Desert]]
|}

==Base stats==
{{BaseStats|
HP=70 |
Attack=115 |
Defense=60 |
SpAtk=115 |
SpDef=60 |
Speed=55 }}

==Type effectiveness==
{{DP type effectiveness|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=200 |
Flying= 200 |
Poison= 200 |
Ground= 50 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 400 |
Ghost= 50 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric= 50 |
Psychic= 0 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 50 }}

Note: if {{m|Miracle Eye}} is used on Cacturne, the effectiveness of {{t|Psychic}} attacks will be 1×.

==Learnset==
{{evolved learnset intro|Cacturne}}

===By [[Level|leveling up]]===
<CENTER>
{| border="1" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{grass color}};"
! ROWSPAN=2 | Level
! COLSPAN=2 | [[Generation III]]
! ROWSPAN=2 | [[Generation IV]]
|- style="background: #{{grass color}};"
! RSE || FR/LG
|-
| 33 || COLSPAN=2 | || {{M|Spikes}}
|-
| 35 ||COLSPAN=2 | {{M|Spikes}} ||
|-
| 41 || COLSPAN=2 |'''{{M|Needle Arm}}''' || '''{{M|Sucker Punch}}'''
|-
| 47 || COLSPAN=2 |{{M|Cotton Spore}} || '''{{m|Payback}}'''
|-
| 53 || COLSPAN=2 | {{M|Sandstorm}} || '''{{M|Needle Arm}}'''
|-
| 59 || || {{M|Destiny Bond}} || {{M|Cotton Spore}}
|-
| 65 || COLSPAN=2 | || {{M|Sandstorm}}
|-
| 71 || COLSPAN=2 | || {{M|Destiny Bond}}
|}
</CENTER>

===By [[TM]]/[[HM]]===
<CENTER>
{| border="1" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{grass color}};"
! # || [[Generation III]]
! [[Generation IV]]
|-
| TM01 || {{M|Focus Punch}}|| {{M|Focus Punch}}
|-
| TM06 || {{m|Toxic}}|| {{m|Toxic}}
|-
| TM09 || '''{{M|Bullet Seed}}'''|| '''{{M|Bullet Seed}}'''
|-
| TM10 || {{m|Hidden Power}}|| {{m|Hidden Power}}
|-
| TM11 || {{M|Sunny Day}}|| {{M|Sunny Day}}
|-
| TM15 || {{M|Hyper Beam}}|| {{M|Hyper Beam}}
|-
| TM17 || {{m|Protect}}|| {{m|Protect}}
|-
| TM19 || '''{{M|Giga Drain}}''' || '''{{M|Giga Drain}}'''
|-
| TM21 || {{m|Frustration}}|| {{m|Frustration}}
|-
| TM22 || '''{{M|SolarBeam}}'''|| '''{{M|SolarBeam}}'''
|-
| TM27 || {{m|Return}}|| {{m|Return}}
|-
| TM31 || || {{m|Brick Break}}
|-
| TM32 || {{M|Double Team}}|| {{M|Double Team}}
|-
| TM37 || {{M|Sandstorm}} || {{M|Sandstorm}}
|-
| TM42 || {{m|Facade}} || {{m|Facade}}
|-
| TM43 || {{M|Secret Power}} || {{M|Secret Power}}
|-
| TM44 || {{M|Rest}} || {{M|Rest}}
|-
| TM45 || {{M|Attract}} || {{M|Attract}}
|-
| TM53 || || '''{{m|Energy Ball}}'''
|-
| TM56 || || '''{{m|Fling}}'''
|-
| TM58 || || {{m|Endure}}
|-
| TM60 || || {{m|Drain Punch}}
|-
| TM66 || || '''{{m|Payback}}'''
|-
| TM68 || || '''{{m|Giga Impact}}'''
|-
| TM70 || || {{m|Flash}}
|-
| TM75 || || {{m|Swords Dance}}
|-
| TM78 || || {{m|Captivate}}
|-
| TM79 || || '''{{m|Dark Pulse}}'''
|-
| TM82 || || {{m|Sleep Talk}}
|-
| TM83 || || {{m|Natural Gift}}
|-
| TM84 || || {{m|Poison Jab}}
|-
| TM86 || || '''{{m|Grass Knot}}'''
|-
| TM87 || || {{m|Swagger}}
|-
| TM90 || || {{m|Substitute}}
|-
| HM01 || {{M|Cut}} || {{M|Cut}}
|-
| HM04 || {{M|Strength}} || {{M|Strength}}
|-
| HM05 || {{M|Flash}} ||
|}
</CENTER>

===By [[breeding]]===
* {{m|Acid}}
* {{m|Counter}}
* {{m|DynamicPunch}}
* {{m|GrassWhistle}}
* {{m|Teeter Dance}}

Only in [[Generation IV]] games:
* {{m|Low Kick}}
* '''{{M|Magical Leaf}}'''
* '''{{m|Seed Bomb}}'''
* {{m|SmellingSalt}}

===By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]===

In [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|Pokémon FireRed, LeafGreen]] and [[Pokémon Emerald]]

*{{M|Body Slam}}
*{{m|Counter}}
*{{M|Double Edge}}
*{{m|Mega Kick}}
*{{m|Mega Punch}}
*{{M|Mimic}}
*{{m|Seismic Toss}}
*{{M|Substitute}}
*{{m|Swords Dance}}

In [[Pokémon Emerald]]
*{{m|DynamicPunch}}
*{{M|Endure}}
*{{m|Fury Cutter}}
*{{m|Mud Slap}}
*{{M|Sleep Talk}}
*{{M|Snore}}
*{{M|Swagger}}
*{{m|ThunderPunch}}

==Side game data==

{{Side game|
type=grass |
ndex=332 |
PinRSevo=yes |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=Evolve |
area=Furnace Desert |
P1= It's too hot in the desert, so I like it at night. |
P2= I'm not looking good. I lost around half my HP so far... |
P3= I'm about done. My body's stiffening up tight... |
PL= Fufufu... I leveled up! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=no |
Ranger2=yes |
typeG2= Dark |
typeA2= Dark |
field2= Crush x2 |
}}

==Evolution==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="5" |
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Basic |
image=331.png |
name=Cacnea }}
|
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Level 32 |
image=332.png |
name=Cacturne }}
|}

==Sprites==
{{Sprite|
type=grass|
gen=3|
gender=both|
ndex=332|
name=Cacturne|
}}

==Trivia==
===Origin===
Cacturne is based on a {{wp|scarecrow}} with cactus-like features.
====Name origin====
Cacturne's name is a combination of ''{{wp|cactus}}'' and ''{{wp|nocturnal}}''. Its Japanese name is also a combination of these words, only in a different order.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Noktuska
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Cacturne
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 밤선인 ''Bamseon'in''

=Related articles=
*[[Harley's Cacturne]]

=External links=
*[[wp:Cacturne|Article on Wikipedia]]

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Cacnea | next=Swablu }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[de:Noktuska]]
[[ja:ノクタス]]
[[Category:Pokémon that are part of a two-stage evolutionary line]]
[[pt:Cacturne (pokémon)]]

Mismagius (Pokémon)

2008-05-11T07:43:29Z

Uxie legend: /* Name origin */

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Lopunny | next=Honchkrow }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Mismagius |
jname=ムウマージ |
tmname=Mumage |
image=ArtMumage.png |
caption=Artwork from D/P |
ndex=429 |
sdex=073 |
adex=221 |
typen=1 |
type1=Ghost |
type2= |
species=Magical |
height-ftin=2′11″ |
height-m=0.9 |
weight-lbs=9.7 |
weight-kg=4.4 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Levitate |
ability2= |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Indeterminate |
egggroup2= |
hatchsteps=6,400 |
effortyield=1 SpA, 1 SpD |
expyield=187 |
lv100exp=800,000 |
gender=both |
female=50 |
male=50 |
color=Purple |
catchrate=45 |
generation=4 |
footnotes=}}
'''Mismagius''' (Japanese: '''ムウマージ''' ''Mumage'') is a {{t|Ghost}}-type Pokémon.

=Biology=
==Physiology==
Mismagius is a purple ghost-like Pokémon that has the appearance of wearing a cloak. The pearls of Mismagius's necklace have a slightly elliptical shape to them. It has a round head and a witch's hat. Mismagius has a skinny, red mouth that looks like a "W".
===Gender differences===
None.

===Special abilities===
Mismagius has the same abilities as {{p|Misdreavus}}, except Mismagius is more powerful and can now use {{m|Magical Leaf}}, {{m|Energy Ball}}, and {{m|Lucky Chant}}.

Since Mismagius is a fully evolved Pokémon, it is capable of using {{m|Hyper Beam}} and {{m|Giga Impact}}.

==Behavior==
Mismagius tend to hum incantations that can cause headaches and hallucinations.Sometimes however,they are lucky chants,which is why it learns the move 'Lucky Chant'

==Habitat==
==Diet==
''Main article: [[Pokémon food]]''

=In the anime=
[[Image:Mismagius anime.PNG|thumb|Mismagius in the anime]]
Mismagius made its first appearance in ''[[DP043|Malice in Wonderland!]]''.

=In the manga=
==In Pokémon Special==

=In the TCG=
{{main|Mismagius (TCG)}}

=Game data=
==Pokédex entries==
{{Dex
|type=ghost
|gen=4
|diamonddex=Its cries sound like incantations. Those hearing it are tormented by headaches and hallucinations.
|pearldex=It chants incantations. While they usually torment targets, some chants bring happiness.
|}}

==Game locations==
{{Availability|
type=ghost |
gen=4 |
dparea=[[Evolve]] {{p|Misdreavus}} |
}}

===In side games===

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{ghost color}};"
! Game
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Ranger Batonnage]]
| [[Almia Castle]]
|}

==Base stats==
{{BaseStats|
HP=60 |
Attack=60 |
Defense=60 |
SpAtk=105 |
SpDef=105 |
Speed=105 }}

==Type effectiveness==
{{DP type effectiveness|
Normal= 0 |
Fighting= 0 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 50 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 200 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric= 100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 200 }}

Notes:
#If a move such as {{M|Foresight}} is used, the effectiveness of {{T|Normal}} and {{T|Fighting}} becomes 1×.
#{{Levitate|1×}}

==Learnset==
{{learnset intro|Mismagius}}
===By [[Level|leveling up]]===
{| border=1 align="center" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{Ghost color}};"
! colspan="4" | [[Generation IV]]
|- style="background: #{{ghost color}};"
! [[Level]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
! [[Damage category|Cat.]]
|-
| rowspan="6" | Start || {{M|Lucky Chant}} || {{ic|Normal}} ||{{ic|Status}}
|-
| {{M|Magical Leaf}} || {{ic|Grass}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| {{M|Growl}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| {{M|Psywave}} || {{ic|Psychic}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| {{M|Spite}} || {{ic|Ghost}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| '''{{M|Astonish}}''' || {{ic|Ghost}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|}

===By [[TM]]/[[HM]]===
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{ghost color}};"
! # || [[Generation IV]]
|-
| TM04 || {{M|Calm Mind}}
|-
| TM06 || {{M|Toxic}}
|-
| TM10 || {{M|Hidden Power}}
|-
| TM11 || {{M|Sunny Day}}
|-
| TM12 || {{M|Taunt}}
|-
| TM15 || {{M|Hyper Beam}}
|-
| TM17 || {{M|Protect}}
|-
| TM18 || {{M|Rain Dance}}
|-
| TM21 || {{M|Frustration}}
|-
| TM24 || {{M|Thunderbolt}}
|-
| TM25 || {{M|Thunder}}
|-
| TM27 || {{M|Return}}
|-
| TM29 || {{M|Psychic}}
|-
| TM30 || '''{{M|Shadow Ball}}'''
|-
| TM32 || {{M|Double Team}}
|-
| TM34 || {{M|Shock Wave}}
|-
| TM40 || {{M|Aerial Ace}}
|-
| TM41 || {{M|Torment}}
|-
| TM42 || {{M|Facade}}
|-
| TM43 || {{M|Secret Power}}
|-
| TM44 || {{M|Rest}}
|-
| TM45 || {{M|Attract}}
|-
| TM46 || {{M|Thief}}
|-
| TM48 || {{M|Skill Swap}}
|-
| TM49 || {{M|Snatch}}
|-
| TM53 || {{M|Energy Ball}}
|-
| TM57 || {{M|Charge Beam}}
|-
| TM58 || {{M|Endure}}
|-
| TM61 || {{M|Will-O-Wisp}}
|-
| TM63 || {{M|Embargo}}
|-
| TM66 || {{M|Payback}}
|-
| TM68 || {{M|Giga Impact}}
|-
| TM70 || {{M|Flash}}
|-
| TM73 || {{M|Thunder Wave}}
|-
| TM77 || {{M|Psych Up}}
|-
| TM78 || {{M|Captivate}}
|-
| TM79 || {{M|Dark Pulse}}
|-
| TM82 || {{M|Sleep Talk}}
|-
| TM83 || {{M|Natural Gift}}
|-
| TM85 || {{M|Dream Eater}}
|-
| TM87 || {{M|Swagger}}
|-
| TM90 || {{M|Substitute}}
|-
| TM92 || {{M|Trick Room}}
|}

===By [[breeding]]===
*{{M|Curse}}
*{{M|Destiny Bond}}
*{{M|Imprison}}
*{{M|Memento}}
*'''{{M|Ominous Wind}}'''
*{{M|Psych Up}}
*{{M|Screech}}
*'''{{M|Shadow Sneak}}'''
*{{M|Spite}}
*{{M|Sucker Punch}}

==Side game data==

{{Side game|
type=ghost |
Ranger2=yes |
typeG2= Ghost |
typeA2= Ghost |
field2= Psychic Power x3 |
}}

==Evolution==
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{{EvoChart Box|
text=Basic |
image=200.png |
name=Misdreavus }}
|{{EvoChart Box|
text=Dusk Stone |
image=429.png |
name=Mismagius }}
|}

==Sprite==
{{Sprite|
type=ghost|
gen=4|
gender=none|
ndex=429|
name=Mismagius|
}}

==Trivia==
===Origin===
Mismagius is based off of a {{wp|witch}} or a {{wp|wizard}}.
====Name origin====
Mismagius is from mischief and mage/magic. Mumage is a portmanteau of the words ''muma'', "nightmare", and mage.
Its German name, Traunmagil, comes from {{tt|Traum|dream}} and ''Magie''. Its French name, Magireve, comes from ''magie'' and {{tt|rêve|dream}}.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Traunmagil
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Magireve
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: ???

=External links=
*[[wp:Mismagius|Article on Wikipedia]]

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