https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/api.php?action=feedcontributions&feedformat=atom&user=Ulithium+Dragon 2026-06-23T14:55:44Z User contributions MediaWiki 1.43.8 https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Old_Sea_Map&diff=3019913 2019-09-03T12:07:21Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: /* Effect */</p> <hr /> <div>{{ItemInfobox/head<br /> |name=Old Sea Map<br /> |jname=ふるびたかいず<br /> |jtrans=Old Sea Chart<br /> |art=Old Sea Map artwork<br /> |caption=Artwork from Pokémon Emerald<br /> |gen=III<br /> |colorscheme=key items<br /> }}<br /> {{ItemInfobox/BagRowBottom|III|Key items}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> The '''Old Sea Map''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|ふるびたかいず|Furubita Kaizu}}''' ''Old Sea Chart'') is an [[Event item|event-exclusive]] [[Key Item]] needed to access [[Faraway Island]], a location at which {{p|Mew}} can be encountered and caught. The only game it has appeared in is {{game|Emerald}}.<br /> <br /> ==In the games==<br /> ===Price===<br /> {{ItemPrice/head‎|Key items}}<br /> {{ItemPrice|{{gameabbrev3|E}}|N/A|N/A}}<br /> |}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ===Effect===<br /> When the player has the Old Sea Map and goes to the [[S.S. Tidal]] port in [[Lilycove City]] and the {{player}} interacts with the woman standing in front of the boat, the [[Faraway Island]] event will activate. She proceeds to fetch the captain, who initially claims it's impossible to take the player to the area denoted on the chart, but [[Mr. Briney]] scolds him for turning the player away and volunteers to take the player to Faraway Island, even though it is a long way from [[Hoenn]].<br /> <br /> After the boat ride, the player enters Faraway Island, a small island with a thick patch of forest. Deep within this forest, the player notices Mew, who flees playfully. After a short game of hide and seek, the player is able to pin Mew in a corner and engage it in battle.<br /> <br /> ===Description===<br /> {{movedesc|Key items}}<br /> {{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|E}}|A faded sea chart that shows the way to a certain island.}}<br /> |}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ===Distribution===<br /> {{main|List of other event distributions in Generation III#Old Sea Map|List of other event distributions in Generation III → Old Sea Map}}<br /> The Old Sea Map was only released officially in Japan and Taiwan and was distributed during [[Pokémon Festa]] 2005 and at the [[PokéPark]] theme park. Like the [[GS Ball]], this event item never reached international players without the use of [[cheating]].<br /> <br /> ==In the manga==<br /> [[File:Old Sea Map Adventures.png|thumb|200px|Old Sea Map in Pokémon Adventures]]<br /> ===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===<br /> The Old Sea Map was one of the items [[Ultima]] took from the [[Trainer Tower]] in ''[[PS292|Bested by Banette]]''. She had been looking for it in order to help her old friend, [[Mr. Briney]], find a way to the [[Faraway Island]]. When Ultima called Briney about her find, however, she was shocked to learn that the old sailor had managed to find the island without the map.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> * The Old Sea Map and related event were both created by [[Shigeki Morimoto]], Mew's original designer.<br /> <br /> ==In other languages==<br /> {{langtable|color={{key items color}}|bordercolor={{key items color dark}}<br /> |zh_cmn=古航海圖 / 古航海图 ''{{tt|Gǔ Hánghǎitú|Old Sea Chart}}''&lt;br&gt;陈旧航海图 ''{{tt|Chénjiù Hánghǎitú|Old Sea Chart}}'' {{tt|*|Manga (Mainland China (old Jilin edition))}} <br /> |de=Alte Karte<br /> |fr=Vieille Carte<br /> |it=Mappa Stinta<br /> |es=Mapa Viejo<br /> |vi=Tấm hải đồ cũ<br /> }}<br /> {{EventExclusive}}&lt;br&gt;<br /> {{Project ItemDex notice}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Event items]]<br /> [[Category:Key Items]]<br /> <br /> [[de:Alte Karte]]<br /> [[es:Mapa viejo]]<br /> [[fr:Vieille Carte]]<br /> [[it:Mappa Stinta]]<br /> [[ja:ふるびたかいず]]<br /> [[zh:古航海图（道具）]]</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Hoenn_Route_134&diff=3019910 2019-09-03T11:59:53Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: Fixed incorrect map link to Sinnoh.</p> <hr /> <div>{{bad picture|2=Guidebook labels}}<br /> {{incomplete|needs=Underwater ORAS image}}<br /> {{Route infobox<br /> |number=134<br /> |size=250<br /> |generation=3<br /> |image=Hoenn Route 134 ORAS.png<br /> |imageIII=Hoenn Route 134 RS.png<br /> |type=ocean<br /> |mapdesc=This route is rather a famous diving spot among those who love exploring ancient ruins.<br /> |surf=yes<br /> |dive=yes<br /> |east=Route 133<br /> |regioneast=Hoenn<br /> |west=Slateport City<br /> |region=Hoenn<br /> |next=Slateport City<br /> |regionnext=Hoenn<br /> }}<br /> <br /> '''Route 134''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|１３４番水道|１３４ばんすいどう}}''' ''Water Route 134'') is a [[water route]] in south-central [[Hoenn]], connecting {{rt|133|Hoenn}} and [[Slateport City]]. The route is dominated for most of its length by a [[Water tile#Currents|rapid current]] that prohibits any controlled movement while {{m|Surf}}ing, thus making it a westbound route only. The [[Sealed Chamber]] is located [[underwater]] near the eastern end of the route.<br /> <br /> ==Route description==<br /> Along with Routes {{rtn|132|Hoenn}} and {{rtn|133|Hoenn}}, Route 134 brings the {{player}} back from [[Pacifidlog Town]] to complete one of the many loops of the Hoenn region.<br /> <br /> Many of the same Pokémon that appeared on the previous sea routes are found here, as are many powerful Trainers on the islets along the way. Two{{sup/3|RS}} or three{{sup/3|E}} such Trainers are found on a large &quot;U&quot;-shaped island in the center of the route just west of the eastern terminus.<br /> <br /> Additionally, this route is home to the [[Sealed Chamber]], the underwater cavern that unlocks the caves of the [[Legendary titans]]—{{p|Regice}}, {{p|Regirock}}, and {{p|Registeel}}. To access the chamber, Trainers must depart from an island in the southeast corner of the route to travel west along the current and reach a deep spot in the route, where Trainers can {{m|Dive}} to the ocean floor to reach the chamber's entrance.<br /> <br /> South of the U-shaped island is a tiny island holding a single Trainer{{sup/3|RS}} or a pair of Trainers{{sup/3|E}}. To the west of this spot is a large island, barren in Ruby and Sapphire but home to two Trainers and an item in Emerald. Northwest of the island, the current that dominated the previous three routes comes to an end at the northeastern edge of [[Slateport City]].<br /> <br /> ==Items==<br /> All items on Route 134 can only be accessed with the use of {{m|Surf}}.<br /> {{itlisth|ocean}}<br /> {{itemlist|Carbos|On the west end of the sandy part of the longest island|E=yes|OR=yes|AS=yes}}<br /> {{itemlist|Star Piece|On the island in the southwest corner of the route|E=yes|OR=yes|AS=yes}}<br /> {{itemlist|Heart Scale|<br /> *On the west end of the sandy part of the longest island, just east of the Carbos ''(hidden)''<br /> *In the middle of the sandy part of the longest island, directly east of the Carbos ''(hidden)''<br /> *On a small island northeast of the one with the Star Piece ''(hidden)''|OR=yes|AS=yes|display=[[Heart Scale]] ×3}}<br /> {{itemlist|TM Rock VI|On a small island in the middle of calm waters in the south of the route|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{TM|80|Rock Slide}}}}<br /> {{itlistfoot|ocean}}<br /> <br /> ==Pokémon==<br /> ===Generation III===<br /> {{Catch/header|ocean|no}}<br /> {{Catch/div|ocean|Surfing}}<br /> {{Catch/entry3|072|Tentacool|yes|yes|yes|Surf|5-35|60%|type1=Water|type2=Poison}}<br /> {{Catch/entry3|278|Wingull|yes|yes|yes|Surf|10-30|35%|type1=Water|type2=Flying}}<br /> {{Catch/entry3|279|Pelipper|yes|yes|yes|Surf|25-30|5%|type1=Water|type2=Flying}}<br /> {{Catch/div|ocean|Fishing}}<br /> {{Catch/entry3|072|Tentacool|yes|yes|yes|Fish Old|5-10|30%|type1=Water|type2=Poison}}<br /> {{Catch/entry3|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|yes|Fish Old|5-10|70%|type1=Water}}<br /> {{Catch/entry3|072|Tentacool|yes|yes|yes|Fish Good|10-30|20%|type1=Water|type2=Poison}}<br /> {{Catch/entry3|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|yes|Fish Good|10-30|60%|type1=Water}}<br /> {{Catch/entry3|320|Wailmer|yes|yes|yes|Fish Good|10-30|20%|type1=Water}}<br /> {{Catch/entry3|116|Horsea|yes|yes|yes|Fish Super|25-30|15%|type1=Water}}<br /> {{Catch/entry3|319|Sharpedo|yes|yes|yes|Fish Super|30-35|40%|type1=Water|type2=Dark}}<br /> {{Catch/entry3|320|Wailmer|yes|yes|yes|Fish Super|30-45|45%|type1=Water}}<br /> {{Catch/footer|ocean}}<br /> <br /> ===Generation VI===<br /> {{Catch/header|ocean|no}}<br /> {{Catch/div|ocean|Surfing}}<br /> {{Catch/entryoras|072|Tentacool|yes|yes|Surf|20, 25|65%|type1=Water|type2=Poison}}<br /> {{Catch/entryoras|278|Wingull|yes|yes|Surf|20|30%|type1=Water|type2=Flying}}<br /> {{Catch/entryoras|279|Pelipper|yes|yes|Surf|25, 30|5%|type1=Water|type2=Flying}}<br /> {{Catch/div|ocean|Surfing (exclusively as {{color2|000|DexNav#Hidden Pokémon|hidden Pokémon}})&lt;br&gt;&lt;small&gt;After defeating or capturing {{pcolor|Groudon|000}}/{{pcolor|Kyogre|000}}&lt;/small&gt;}}<br /> {{Catch/entryoras|456|Finneon|yes|yes|Surf|30|??%|type1=Water}}<br /> {{Catch/entryoras|592{{#ifexpr: ({{#time: H}} mod 2)=0||F}}|Frillish|yes|yes|Surf|30|??%|type1=Water|type2=Ghost}}<br /> {{Catch/entryoras|594|Alomomola|yes|yes|Surf|30|??%|type1=Water}}<br /> {{Catch/div|ocean|Fishing}}<br /> {{Catch/entryoras|072|Tentacool|yes|yes|Fish Old|5|35%|type1=Water|type2=Poison}}<br /> {{Catch/entryoras|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Old|10, 15|65%|type1=Water}}<br /> {{Catch/entryoras|072|Tentacool|yes|yes|Fish Good|25|35%|type1=Water|type2=Poison}}<br /> {{Catch/entryoras|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Good|25|60%|type1=Water}}<br /> {{Catch/entryoras|320|Wailmer|yes|yes|Fish Good|25|5%|type1=Water}}<br /> {{Catch/entryoras|116|Horsea|yes|yes|Fish Super|30|35%|type1=Water}}<br /> {{Catch/entryoras|117|Seadra|yes|yes|Fish Super|40|5%|type1=Water}}<br /> {{Catch/entryoras|320|Wailmer|yes|yes|Fish Super|35|60%|type1=Water}}<br /> {{Catch/footer|ocean}}<br /> <br /> ==Trainers==<br /> ==={{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}===<br /> {{trainerheader|ocean}}<br /> {{trainerentry|Spr RS Swimmer M.png|Swimmer|Jack|272|2|120|Staryu||34||130|Gyarados|♂|34|36=ヒデノリ|37=Hidenori}}<br /> {{trainerdiv|ocean}}<br /> {{trainerentry|Spr RS Swimmer F.png|Swimmer|Laurel|264|3|370|Luvdisc|♀|33||370|Luvdisc|♀|33||370|Luvdisc|♀|33|36=ソノコ|37=Sonoko}}<br /> {{trainerdiv|ocean}}<br /> {{trainerentry|Spr RS Black Belt.png|Black Belt|Hitoshi|1088|2|067|Machoke|♂|34||067|Machoke|♂|34|36=イワオ|37=Iwao}}<br /> {{trainerdiv|ocean}}<br /> {{trainerentry|Spr RS Dragon Tamer.png|Dragon Tamer|Aaron|1680|1|371|Bagon|♂|35|36=タツマ|37=Tatsuma}}<br /> {{trainerdiv|ocean}}<br /> {{trainerentry|Spr RS Bird Keeper.png|Bird Keeper|Alex|1024|4|177|Natu|♂|32||278|Wingull|♂|32||277|Swellow|♂|32||279|Pelipper|♂|32|36=サツグ|37=Masatsugu}}<br /> {{trainerfooter|ocean|3}}<br /> <br /> ==={{game|Emerald}}===<br /> {{trainerheader|ocean}}<br /> {{trainerentry|Spr RS Swimmer F.png|Swimmer|Laurel|264|2|370|Luvdisc|♀|33||370|Luvdisc|♀|33|36=ソノコ|37=Sonoko}}<br /> {{trainerdiv|ocean}}<br /> {{trainerentry|Spr RS Swimmer M.png|Swimmer|Jack|272|1|130|Gyarados|♂|34|36=ヒデノリ|37=Hidenori}}<br /> {{trainerdiv|ocean}}<br /> {{trainerentry|Spr RS Black Belt.png|Black Belt|Hitoshi|1024&lt;br&gt;&lt;small&gt;Potential [[Double Battle]] with Reyna&lt;/small&gt;|2|066|Machop|♂|32||067|Machoke|♂|32|36=イワオ|37=Iwao}}<br /> {{trainerentry|Spr RS Battle Girl.png|Battle Girl|Reyna|792&lt;br&gt;&lt;small&gt;Potential [[Double Battle]] with Hitoshi&lt;/small&gt;|2|307|Meditite|♀|33||297|Hariyama|♂|33|36=タマキ|37=Tamaki}}<br /> {{trainerdiv|ocean}}<br /> {{trainerentry|Spr RS Sailor.png|Sailor|Hudson|1088|1|320|Wailmer|♂|34|36=ジュンヤ|37=Junya}}<br /> {{trainerdiv|ocean}}<br /> {{trainerentry|Spr RS Dragon Tamer.png|Dragon Tamer|Aaron|1632&lt;br&gt;&lt;small&gt;{{tt|Potential|Single Battle only if the player has only one Pokémon in their party}} [[Double Battle]] with Marley&lt;/small&gt;|1|371|Bagon|♂|34|36=タツマ|37=Tatsuma}}<br /> {{trainerentry|Spr RS Cooltrainer F.png|Cooltrainer|Marley|1632&lt;br&gt;&lt;small&gt;{{tt|Potential|Single Battle only if the player has only one Pokémon in their party}} [[Double Battle]] with Aaron&lt;/small&gt;|1|310|Manectric|♀|34|36=リツコ|37=Ritsuko}}<br /> {{trainerdiv|ocean}}<br /> {{trainerentry|Spr RS Bird Keeper.png|Bird Keeper|Alex|1056&lt;br&gt;&lt;small&gt;Potential [[Double Battle]] with Kelvin&lt;/small&gt;|2|177|Natu|♂|33||277|Swellow|♂|33|36=マサツグ|37=Masatsugu}}<br /> {{trainerentry|Spr RS Sailor.png|Sailor|Kelvin|1056&lt;br&gt;&lt;small&gt;Potential [[Double Battle]] with Alex&lt;/small&gt;|2|067|Machoke|♂|33||363|Spheal|♂|33|36=ナオヤ|37=Naoya}}<br /> {{trainerfooter|ocean|3}}<br /> <br /> ==={{g|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}===<br /> {{trainerheader|ocean}}<br /> {{trainerentry|VSSwimmer M.png{{!}}150px|Swimmer ♂|Jack|608|2|120|Staryu||36||319|Sharpedo|♂|38|36=ヒデノリ|37=Hidenori}}<br /> {{trainerdiv|ocean}}<br /> {{trainerentry|VSSwimmer F ORAS.png{{!}}150px|Swimmer ♀|Laurel|576|3|370|Luvdisc|♀|36||370|Luvdisc|♀|36||370|Luvdisc|♀|36|36=ソノコ|37=Sonoko}}<br /> {{trainerdiv|ocean}}<br /> {{trainerentry|VSBird Keeper.png{{!}}150px|Bird Keeper|Alex|1,480|2|277|Swellow|♂|37||334|Altaria|♂|37|36=サツグ|37=Masatsugu}}<br /> {{trainerdiv|ocean}}<br /> {{trainerentry|VSBlack Belt.png{{!}}150px|Black Belt|Hitoshi|1,248|2|067|Machoke|♂|37||214|Heracross|♂|39|36=イワオ|37=Iwao}}<br /> {{trainerdiv|ocean}}<br /> {{trainerentry|VSDragon Tamer.png{{!}}150px|Dragon Tamer|Aaron|2,340|2|372|Shelgon|♂|39||230|Kingdra|♂|39|36=タツマ|37=Tatsuma}}<br /> {{trainerdiv|ocean}}<br /> {{trainerentry|VSAce Trainer F ORAS.png{{!}}150px|Ace Trainer|Elaine|2,400|2|305|Lairon|♀|38||357|Tropius|♀|40|36=アンナ|37=Anna}}<br /> {{trainerfooter|ocean|3}}<br /> <br /> ==Appearance==<br /> {| class=&quot;roundy&quot; style=&quot;margin:auto; background: #000; border: 3px solid #{{locationcolor/dark|ocean}}&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{locationcolor/light|ocean}}; {{roundytl|5px}}&quot; | Game<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{locationcolor/light|ocean}}&quot; | Surface<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{locationcolor/light|ocean}}; {{roundytr|5px}}&quot; | Underwater<br /> |-<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{ruby color}}&quot; | {{color2|fff|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby}}<br /> | rowspan=&quot;2&quot; | [[File:Hoenn Route 134 RS.png|300px]]<br /> | rowspan=&quot;3&quot; | [[File:Hoenn Route 134 underwater RSE.png|300px]]<br /> | rowspan=&quot;3&quot; | [[File:Sealed Chamber underwater RSE.png|x300px]]<br /> |-<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{sapphire color}}&quot; | {{color2|fff|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Sapphire}}<br /> |-<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{emerald color}}&quot; | {{color2|fff|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}<br /> | [[File:Hoenn Route 134 E.png|300px]]<br /> |-<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{omega ruby color}}&quot; | {{color2|fff|Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire|Omega Ruby}}<br /> | rowspan=&quot;2&quot; | [[File:Hoenn Route 134 ORAS.png|300px]]<br /> | rowspan=&quot;2&quot; | &lt;!--[[File:Hoenn Route 134 underwater ORAS.png|300px]]--&gt;<br /> | rowspan=&quot;2&quot; | &lt;!--[[File:Sealed Chamber underwater ORAS.png|x300px]]--&gt;<br /> |-<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{alpha sapphire color}}&quot; | {{color2|fff|Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire|Alpha Sapphire}}<br /> |-<br /> | colspan=&quot;4&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{locationcolor/light|ocean}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}&quot; | &amp;nbsp; <br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> * The {{tc|Swimmer}} that appears in the {{chap|Ruby &amp; Sapphire}} of [[Pokémon Adventures]] is based on Swimmer Jack, who appears in this route. Like {{tc|Fisherman}} [[Wilton]] before him, Jack shares his Japanese name with the manga's author, [[Hidenori Kusaka]].<br /> <br /> ==See also==<br /> * [[Sealed Chamber]]<br /> <br /> {{Hoenn}}&lt;br&gt;<br /> {{Project Routes notice}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Hoenn locations|Route 134]]<br /> [[Category:Routes|Route 134]]<br /> [[Category:Ruby and Sapphire locations|Route 134]]<br /> [[Category:Emerald locations|Route 134]]<br /> [[Category:Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire locations|Route 134]]<br /> [[Category:Underwater locations|Route 134]]<br /> <br /> [[de:Route 134 (Hoenn)]]<br /> [[es:Ruta 134]]<br /> [[fr:Chenal 134]]<br /> [[it:Percorso 134 (Hoenn)]]<br /> [[ja:134ばんすいどう (ホウエン地方)]]<br /> [[zh:１３４号水路（丰缘）]]</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Super_Training&diff=2346503 2015-10-20T02:01:24Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: </p> <hr /> <div><br /> == How is the prize list known to be incomplete? ==<br /> <br /> We can't datamine it, so for all we know, the list is 100% complete {{unsigned|Shadowater}}<br /> <br /> It is far from complete. X was not listed to have thunderstone or fire stone on the final mission and can get both. Additionally I just got a PP up from it and the list only has PP Max, since I have yet to get a PP Max I am currently unsure as to whether the list is wrong in saying it's PP Max at all or not. [[User:Ctom42|Ctom42]] ([[User talk:Ctom42|talk]]) 02:44, 9 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> List is definitely incomplete, though probably not by much now. I've been going through each balloon and have found a fair number of items that haven't been added yet. I'm uncertain if there are more rewards beyond drinks for attempts that clock below the target time, and I haven't been doing checks for that. [[User:TroutMask|TroutMask]] ([[User talk:TroutMask|talk]]) 07:50, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == PP Up on Vivillon balloon? ==<br /> <br /> I haven't been able to confirm it yet, but I theorize the Vivillon balloon can sometimes drop a PP Up, as it would then be the offensive counterpart to Probopass' rewards. Has anyone gotten a PP Up from this balloon? [[User:TroutMask|TroutMask]] ([[User talk:TroutMask|talk]]) 07:47, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Secret Super Training Rewards ==<br /> <br /> All,<br /> While I have been a huge fan of Bulbapedia and the information it has provided for many years, I am new to the discussion and creation of Bulbapedia articles. I am not familiar with the protocols of Wiki edits or discussions, but I would like to see more information on this subject. I have been searching the web since the release of Pokemon X and Y and it seems that, despite all other information available, the Super Training and Secret Super Training is among some of the subjects with the least supporting evidence and information.<br /> <br /> My main concern, apart from EVs and other obvious results of Super Training, is the rewards of Super Training and Secret Super Training; more specifically, what items are rewarded during Secret Super Training has been of great interest to me.<br /> <br /> One of the primary reasons I bring this up is because, like many of you, I have finished the bulk of Pokemon X and Y. However, as I alluded to earlier, I can not seem to find any conclusive data about the rewards of Secret Super Training. I have completed each task more or less dozens times. The focus of my inquiry is this: is the reward for each training session &quot;random?&quot;<br /> <br /> I consistently finish training regimens within Target Time. More than that, I am finishing with a full minute to spare ''above'' Target Time. With work, I am occasionally still beating some of my earlier records. All of this to no avail: I am not rewarded the more &quot;rare&quot; reward, and half the time I get Soda Pops, even when I beat my High Scores. The Soda Pops are what pushed me over the edge and prompted me to write the discussion (that, and I saw very little in the &quot;Discussion&quot; tab&quot;). If I am kicking butt at the Secret Super Training, but getting Soda Pops (I really just want a couple Evolutionary Stones, like the Dawn Stone) instead, is it better to do poorly early on and increase your High Score by nominal amounts later on?<br /> <br /> I realize I pose a number of concerns and questions in this post, and that many of them are unable to be answered now. Let it be known that if there is anything I can do to provide Bulbapedia with more information on this, or any other subject, I would be '''happy''' to oblige. I have a blank version of Pokemon Y (my main game is on Pokemon X) and would be happy to do some baseline testing if anyone knows any more information regarding Super Training and Secret Training.<br /> <br /> Just to reiterate before I finish, my main concern is &quot;what should I be doing to maximize the chances of getting the more 'rare' item rewards of Secret Super Training?&quot;<br /> <br /> Thank you,<br /> Thomas {{unsigned|TDKenyon}}<br /> <br /> <br /> -<br /> The rewards seem to be random. I haven't tested it too much, but better performance seems to only increase the odds of getting a more valuable reward rather than guarantee them. Unfortunately, this means that the player is sometimes rewarded with Soda Pops and Lemonades despite a good performance. That said, the odds seem to be that finishing above target time has a low chance of getting drinks, with Hard Stones/Stardusts/Wings being common and evo stones/PP Up being uncommon or rare. At least, that's my personal experience. I haven't tested this with a large sample pool. I also have barely tested finishing below target time, so I'm not sure if the odds of finding more valuable items diminishes (though every time I've gotten below target has had a drink as a reward).<br /> <br /> At any rate, I haven't seen item drop rates posted anywhere, nor have I done testing with a large enough sample size to tell you how to maximize rare item drops. Based on personal experience, the best way to find rare items is to beat the target time. [[User:TroutMask|TroutMask]] ([[User talk:TroutMask|talk]]) 06:14, 13 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I'd also like to add that I'm not convinced that drop rates change by beating the target time by a larger margin. I may be wrong, and the fact that there's different text based on how much you beat the target time by suggests I might be wrong. I just haven't done enough testing to see a measurable difference. [[User:TroutMask|TroutMask]] ([[User talk:TroutMask|talk]]) 06:18, 13 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I was beating it with between 2:15 and 2:45 left on the clock and it took me about 10 tries to get a Dusk Stone. Now to show those fairy trainers the power of my Aegislash! [[User:jimethn|jimethn]] 17:19, 3 May 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Attack Types ==<br /> <br /> I think there should be a list of Pokémon by attack type and/or a spot on their page, perhaps in the main template, that gives the attack type. --[[User:WyndFox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#992232&quot;&gt;Wynd&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:WyndFox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:2B65EC&quot;&gt;Fox&lt;/span&gt;]] 10:08, 11 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I concur entirely. If Bulbapedia went through all the trouble to compile so much information about the Pokéathlon when it was only a feature of HeartGold and SoulSilver, I believe Super Training deserves at least as much attention. It would be quite an undertaking, however. To do it properly, I would suggest a list page for each species by shot type, a mention of the species' specific shot types in the main species pages (in the template or perhaps elsewhere on the page), and categories to separate Pokémon by shot type. We'd need an admin's help to change the template if it seems necessary, I think. Help and support for this is appreciated. [[User:Superbreeder|Super]][[User talk:Superbreeder|breeder]] 16:29, 1 July 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Of course, I typed all that up before I noticed the &quot;Pokémon articles should mention their species ball type&quot; section below... [[User:Superbreeder|Super]][[User talk:Superbreeder|breeder]] 16:38, 1 July 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I have made the template you guys wanted. I just need someone to create two empty pages for me so that I can edit it (I'm a new user so I am not allowed to create new pages myself). If anyone of you is still here, please help out by creating the &quot;Template:Balltype&quot; and &quot;Template:Balltypeh&quot; pages. {{unsigned|Samhiuy}}<br /> <br /> ==Building up stats without Super Training==<br /> I've been noticing lately that when the Pokémon that I am leveling up are having their stats raised from the stat build ups causing the green bar to go up and this also seems to include from evolution as well. Right now there is not enough evidence for me to put this in but can anyone work to confirm this. By starting at level 1 and raising them as far as level 50 you'll notice this. <br /> <br /> Also yesterday when my {{p|Houndoom}} level uped when the green bar was almost full, it filled the rest of it up allowing me to do Secret Super Training even though I never used it in the regular Super Training courses. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 15:59, 3 December 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Super Training boosts [[effort values]] (officially called &quot;base stats&quot;), which have always been used as a way to make trained Pokémon stronger than wild ones. When you defeat a wild Pokémon, you get stats dependent on the species of that Pokémon. Super Training has not introduced a new mechanic, it has just made a long-time mechanic more accessible for newer players. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 16:08, 3 December 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Super Training Vs Vitamins ==<br /> <br /> Has there been any documentation or research as to which, if any, is the better route to raise the Stats/EVs?<br /> <br /> Because so far Super Training seems to be the superior route, for it lets you go beyond the limits of Vitamins.<br /> <br /> I know for a fact my new Mewtwo with a Docile Nature who has not been super trained has 187 speed right out of the starting gate.<br /> <br /> 1 Carbos (10+ EV each use) will raise it to 188, 2 raises it to 190, 3 to 191, 4 to 194, 5 to 195, 6 to 197, 7 to 198, 8 to 201, 9 to 202 and finally 10 to 204 an I am unable to raise it any further using Carbos.<br /> <br /> on the other hand we have the Lv. 1 Speed Up with the Noibat Regimen (4+ EV each) 2 raises it from 187 to 188, 3 to 189, 5 to 190, 6 to 191, 8 to 192, 9 to 193, 10 to 194..then I got a little impatient and started using all the Speed Bag L's I kept winning, but keeping track of how many Evs were being earned. By the time I stopped out of boredom, I got Mewtwo's speed to 205.<br /> <br /> I then exited the game for the third time without saving, then I maxed out how many Carbos it could have and was allowed to use a Speed Bag M to further raise its Speed Ev.<br /> <br /> So should it be mentioned in the article that Super Training is either better, or at the very least allows the player to raise their Pokémon's EVs further then they could with Vitamins (alone?) ? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 22:18, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The advantage of Super Training is that it costs no money. However, it takes a considerable investment of time to get the desired EVs for just one Pokémon. Contrast this with Vitamins which, although exorbitantly expensive and subject to the 100-EV limit, allows a trainer to max out the stats of one Pokémon within seconds. --[[User:Arima|Arima]] ([[User talk:Arima|talk]]) 01:25, 28 December 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::I was referring more towards caps in super training. Even when you max out vitamins, you can still train that EV stat until the Super Training application tells you that Pokémon's base stat can't go any higher. <br /> <br /> :::What I want to know is if its better to...<br /> ::1) To do only Super Training<br /> ::2) To do some/max out Vitamins then Super Training<br /> ::I mean does taking vitamins inhibit or speed up the EV training process; are you somehow capping that Pokémon's ability to grow that stat in any way? Could you get that stat to grow more without the Vitamins, or will it grow to the same no matter what? What is the cap, is it the same 255-ev cap the wings have, or is it different?<br /> <br /> ::from what I've seen, it looks like you can max out a single stat and then still train another but once that meter fills up you are done, game over you can't train any other stats.<br /> <br /> ::Another thing I would like to know vs Super Training are the wings. I know the wings have a 255-EV cap. I know it would take an insane amount of dedication, even more so then Super Training or chaining to catch a shinny or just taking your chances to find a shiny without chaining, but could you improve the desired stats more with Wings alone vs super training?<br /> <br /> ::But at the end of the day I am more interested in the pros and cons of Super training, that way we can include that info on the page. {{unsigned|Yamitora1}} 05:39, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::The caps on Super Training are 252 in a stat. --[[User:Funktastic~!|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009900&quot;&gt;'''It's'''&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color:#CC66FF&quot;&gt;'''Funktastic~!'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#99CCFF&quot;&gt;''話してください''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;]] 05:44, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::Horde EV training is typically used over both vitamins and Super Training anyway, as it is far more efficient. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 06:09, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br /> So Wings would be the better route, but only by 3 evs. As for Horde EV Training, the Horde Encounter article has no details on this. Does it too have a Cap too, whats the difference between gaining EV increase in horse ev training compared to normal one-on-one training?<br /> <br /> heh, well I've bred me a test subject and documented multiple things. Tomorrow I guess I will see for myself with trial and error. Hopefully my method will be as sterile as possible to provide the best results. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 07:08, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Wings wouldn't be better at all because they take longer to get, and I'm guessing they'll have the same 252 ev limit in Gen VI that everything else has. Never mind that the three evs it would have are actually useless. --[[User:Funktastic~!|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009900&quot;&gt;'''It's'''&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color:#CC66FF&quot;&gt;'''Funktastic~!'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#99CCFF&quot;&gt;''話してください''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;]] 07:10, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::252 EVs is the cap in general. The method by which you increase the EVs is irrelevant.<br /> ::Horde EV training is when you encounter a Horde of Pokémon that only give out EVs in one stat, then use a move to take them all out at once. Since the [[EV-enhancing item]]s give out 4 EVs per Pokémon, and Pokérus doubles the EVs given, you get a total of 50 EVs per battle (for Pokémon which give out 1 EV). It's a fan method though, not an official one, which is why it isn't noted on the Horde Encounter page. I think it may deserve a mention though, as it is such a popular way to do it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:23, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Well certainly anything that involves equations and other real-world math to solve and relate to on paper deserves some mention. I might not be able to understand it, but the fact so many things in the games can be written down as an equation makes the articles seem much more then some fansite/wiki mumble jumble (no offense to bulba, its one of the best wikis I know...not that I really hang at others.) There is a fine line between what counts as article worthy notation and what is just plain IGN walk-through and strategy guides. I think the articles should try to cover all facets of a subject as long as they're not artificial. Going a bit in depth into the math behind the chaos is what I love about this site.<br /> <br /> :::With that out of the way and to get back on subject, perhaps some mention of the 252 EVs cap should be noted on the Super Training article. Also maybe a comparison between the various EV altering methods, if only to a small degree? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 07:37, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pokémon articles should mention their species ball type ==<br /> <br /> I think it should be mentioned on here and/or the Pokémon articles what type of ball each Pokémon Species has.<br /> <br /> I know Mewtwo has an orange ball, Hydreigon has yellow and I believe Charizard has Black. Even if Super Traing changes or is dropped, it still should be mentioned plus the articles mention. After all the Pokémon's Pokéathlon data is still mentioned in articles. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 19:42, 3 January 2014 (UTC)<br /> :Charizard's is orange. --[[User:WyndFox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#992232&quot;&gt;Wynd&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:WyndFox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:2B65EC&quot;&gt;Fox&lt;/span&gt;]] 23:18, 3 January 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Quotes when using Training Bags ==<br /> <br /> Do you think there should be a page or a section that lists the quotes when a Pokémon uses Training Bags? --[[User:Blinx9999guizar|Blinx9999guizar]] ([[User talk:Blinx9999guizar|talk]]) 02:38, 12 February 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Moving closer to the balloon bot ==<br /> <br /> You can press the up and down arrow keys on the 3ds to move closer or farther from the balloon bot. I think this should be mentioned somewhere as it's a slightly obscure mechanic...I'm not sure how to utilize it in the game, either. [[User:Ymedron|Ymedron]] ([[User talk:Ymedron|talk]]) 00:40, 12 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> :It's useful when you're trying to battle a fast balloon bot with a slow ball. Not sure where it would go, though. --[[User:WyndFox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#992232&quot;&gt;Wynd&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:WyndFox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:2B65EC&quot;&gt;Fox&lt;/span&gt;]] 01:11, 12 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Effort-o-meter out of proportion ==<br /> <br /> I understand that some people do not agree with my edits, so I'll bring it up here. What I discovered:<br /> * If the effort-o-meter displays a hexagon, the Pokémon has a similar EV in all 6 stats.<br /> * If the Pokémon is trained to grow balancedly in all 6 stats, the graph displays extreme vertices.<br /> ** Take Charizard as an example, the species is stronger in Sp. Atk, Attack and Speed. If it is trained to have a hexagon in the graph, it still grows stronger in the 3 stats over the other 3. If a trainer desires to make the Charizard become more balanced in 6 stats, HP and Sp. Def should be more intensely trained. Doing so will make the Charizard grow more evenly in all 6 stats, but resulting a graph with very sharp HP and Sp. Def.<br /> -[[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 05:16, 22 April 2014 (UTC)<br /> ::I still don't actually really understand what you're trying to say. By &quot;grow evenly&quot;, do you just mean the increases to its stats at each level-up? If so, I don't think that balance is likely to hold up reliably. Unless your [[Stats#In Generation III onward|IV+2*Base_stat+EV/4]] adds up to an even multiple of 100 for every stat, after some number of levels, one of your stats is going to increase an extra point than it was. Basically, there's a very good chance your &quot;balance&quot; will unbalance sooner or later.<br /> ::At any rate, it seems like trivia (a novelty) at best. I don't see a case for this ever being really important for most users. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:45, 22 April 2014 (UTC)<br /> :::By &quot;even&quot;, I mean to minimize the growing rate of all the stats. It is not possible to equalize all of them, but the differences can be minimized if the weakest stat is trained with priority. Of course, this resorts to using mathematics. What I fear is that a perfect hexagon in the graph may give an illusion to a player that &quot;Oh, I have trained this Pokémon to have even performances in all 6 stats&quot;. -[[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 06:53, 23 April 2014 (UTC)<br /> ::::I still don't think most people would ever have that concern. I don't really know why ''anyone'' would, honestly.<br /> ::::To be honest, this &quot;green and yellow out of proportion&quot; thing ''might'' be something I'd be inclined to note if I observed and understood it well myself. But I don't, so I'm not sure exactly what should/could be said. The problem for now is, the explanation you're trying to make is very confusing, and it's not answering a really pressing question. If that's the case, then on balance it's better to just avoid the confusion of that explanation. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:09, 23 April 2014 (UTC)<br /> We have unlimited time, so we could simply work out a good line to include. -[[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 06:19, 24 April 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Revision 2112800 ==<br /> <br /> [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] wrote:<br /> :This isn't given for the standard training bots, so you've introduced inconsistency rather than resolved it; also, a lot of the non-numerical parts border on opinion. Define &quot;heavily,&quot; &quot;long,&quot; &quot;strong,&quot; &quot;quickly,&quot; etc.<br /> I agree with his criticism because this table:<br /> :{| class=&quot;roundy&quot; style=&quot;margin:auto; background: #{{tough color}}; border: 3px solid #{{fighting color dark}}&quot; <br /> ! Color<br /> ! Effect<br /> |- style=&quot;background:#fff&quot; <br /> | Black<br /> | Average shot, can fire shots in quick succession<br /> |- style=&quot;background:#fff&quot; <br /> | Blue<br /> | Higher shot speed, small shot size, high max power, Guts Shots decrease Guts Meter a lot<br /> |- style=&quot;background:#fff&quot; <br /> | Green<br /> | Slower shot speed, large shot size, high power, Guts Shots decrease Guts Meter a lot<br /> |- style=&quot;background:#fff&quot; <br /> | Orange<br /> | Very large shot size, low power<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}&quot; | Yellow<br /> | style=&quot;background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}&quot; | Fires multiple shots in succession after charging, small shot size, very low power, Guts Shots don't use much of the Guts Meter<br /> |}<br /> does not border on opinion, where words like &quot;very large size&quot; or &quot;low power&quot; are somehow mathematically deduced.<br /> <br /> If my sarcasm offends then I should apologize. Igniting flames is not my goal. I simply wish to know the criteria for being allowed to make contributions here. Thanks.<br /> -[[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 13:28, 1 May 2014 (UTC)<br /> :If you're concerned about your sarcasm, you can always just turn it into an honest/straightforward counterpoint.<br /> :Anywho, if it wasn't on the others, that can be remedied. I do essentially like the idea of a description, and I'd be happy to see one for all the regimens.<br /> :I do think some of your descriptions could stand some editing to...make them more wiki-worthy (and some of the points like &quot;a single shot may score both goals&quot; are pure walkthrough material), but many of your description points were basically on point and worthwhile, IMO. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:30, 1 May 2014 (UTC)<br /> ::For what it's worth, I didn't notice how opinionated that table was; I had my blinders on and was looking only at the standard Super Training table, which has no descriptions at all. I agree that toned-down it could be useful, but without mathematical data from the code itself, I'm not sure how to make it suitably neutral. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:42, 1 May 2014 (UTC)<br /> Thanks for replying, lads. I was not exactly concern with wiki-worthiness when I added them. I meant to set up some sort of a column as a framework or something so others may begin to add. Now that when I am reviewing them, I think the only worthy point to put up is the -9999 points of deduction when hit in the second last regiment. But then, we have no place to put it up there. And walkthrough materials, I am not sure how to achieve a balance. There are certainly some phenomenal observations possible in these regiments, like the scatterbug and spewpa's hits are not damaging but the vivillon's are. I don't think mathematical figures are crucial. Sometimes, unbiased qualitative data are better if quantitativeness cannot be achieved. -[[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 04:33, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br /> :What about this? We add columns like &quot;Rapid shots&quot;, &quot;Rapid movements&quot; or &quot;Barrier&quot;. Like this:<br /> {| class=&quot;roundy&quot; style=&quot;margin:auto; background: #{{tough color}}; border: 3px solid #{{fighting color dark}}&quot; <br /> ! Lv.<br /> ! Regimen name<br /> ! Balloon Bots<br /> ! Points to beat<br /> ! Prizes<br /> ! Barrier<br /> ! Rapid movements<br /> ! Rapid shots<br /> ! Tracing shots<br /> |- style=&quot;background:#fff&quot; <br /> | 4<br /> | The Troubles Keep on Coming?!<br /> | {{p|Aurorus}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Tyrantrum}} <br /> | 1800<br /> | {{DL|Wing|Pretty Wing}}&lt;br&gt;{{DL|Drinks|Fresh Water}}&lt;br&gt;{{DL|Wing|Health Wing}}&lt;br&gt;{{DL|Wing|Muscle Wing}}&lt;br&gt;{{DL|Wing|Genius Wing}}&lt;br&gt;{{DL|Wing|Swift Wing}}&lt;br&gt;{{DL|Wing|Resist Wing}}&lt;br&gt;{{DL|Wing|Clever Wing}}<br /> | FALSE<br /> | FALSE<br /> | TRUE<br /> | TRUE<br /> |- style=&quot;background:#fff&quot; <br /> | 5<br /> | The Leaf Stone Cup Begins!<br /> | {{p|Venusaur}}<br /> | 4000<br /> | {{DL|Wing|Pretty Wing}}&lt;br&gt;{{DL|Drinks|Soda Pop}}&lt;br&gt;{{DL|Valuable item|Stardust}}&lt;br&gt;{{DL|Type-enhancing item|Hard Stone}}&lt;br&gt;{{evostone|Leaf Stone}}<br /> | FALSE<br /> | TRUE<br /> | TRUE<br /> | FALSE<br /> |- style=&quot;background:#fff&quot; <br /> | 5<br /> | The Fire Stone Cup Begins!<br /> | {{p|Charizard}}<br /> | 4000<br /> | {{DL|Wing|Pretty Wing}}&lt;br&gt;{{DL|Drinks|Soda Pop}}&lt;br&gt;{{DL|Valuable item|Stardust}}&lt;br&gt;{{DL|Type-enhancing item|Hard Stone}}&lt;br&gt;{{evostone|Fire Stone}}<br /> | TRUE<br /> | FALSE<br /> | TRUE<br /> | TRUE<br /> |}<br /> -[[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 13:34, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br /> :I made a couple edits directly to the table. You shouldn't have those kinds of formats in a table generally. I also kind of think the last few columns should be combined into one. They force the table fairly wide, and it'd be nicer if you could just write (for example) &quot;Rapid shots, tracing shots&quot; in one cell and let that wrap however it wants/needs to. In a similar vein, you might also revert the prize list to a comma-separated series, so the ''rows'' aren't taller than they have to be either. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:56, 2 May 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pokemon Ball Type needs to be included here ==<br /> <br /> Sorry for posting this once again, but I need the help of the people here. We already have several people asking for this in the bottom posts. I am making new heading for this because I am working on the list. http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f195/super-training-pokemon-ball-type-page-project-167935/<br /> <br /> I have already completed the list of Gen I, Gen II and Gen V. Would appreciate help if possible. All anyone needs to do is create a template and help edit the main page with the information. Needs sprite as well. &gt;-&lt; Been looking everywhere for help, but you guys are the only ones who gave a care...so please help out!! T^T [[User:Samhiuy|Samhiuy]] ([[User talk:Samhiuy|talk]]) 12:12, 2 August 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Team Flare Bag/ORAS ==<br /> <br /> Is the Team Flare Bag actually in ORAS? And/or are there any new ORAS Training Bags? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:40, 4 January 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Super Secret Training Tiers ==<br /> <br /> This page mentions several tiers of Super Secret Training with odd numbers of regiments. I can confirm that in X, there are only 2 tiers with 6 regiments in each. [[User:Jumiric|Jumiric]] ([[User talk:Jumiric|talk]]) 20:50, 29 July 2015 (UTC)<br /> :It was talking about the numbers that are reflected in the leftmost column of the table in that section. It was a pretty pointless statement anyway, though, especially since it is in the table at this point. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:27, 29 July 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Ah, sorry. It looked like something that had been changed in a patch with the wording. [[User:Jumiric|Jumiric]] ([[User talk:Jumiric|talk]]) 21:40, 29 July 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Super Training Music is From &quot;Lost Magic&quot; ==<br /> <br /> I'm really shocked that nobody else on the internet seems to have noticed this, but the &quot;victory&quot; music used for super training and the subsequent &quot;stat increase&quot; sounds (as well as maybe main theme that plays during the minigame, not sure about that one) are so plainly the music and sound effects from the Nintendo DS game &quot;Lost Magic&quot;. Since Ubisoft made the game, I guess Nintendo just bought the rights to it and hoped nobody would notice?<br /> <br /> I of course don't have definitive proof because I cannot extract the sound files from either game, but I'm 100% positive, and I think this should be added in a &quot;trivia&quot; section on this page.<br /> <br /> Don't get me wrong - I loved the music in Lost Magic, it just feels a bit out of place that it popped up randomly in Pokemon years later...<br /> [[User:Ulithium Dragon|Ulithium Dragon]] ([[User talk:Ulithium Dragon|talk]]) 02:00, 20 October 2015 (UTC)</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Dawn_(game)&diff=2311601 2015-07-23T07:16:43Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: I don&#039;t know why you reverted my edit to add her age, since this is known information. Hilda&#039;s game page lists her age as well - we list it if it&#039;s known. Next time you revert one of my additions, please be courteous enough to leave a note explaining why.</p> <hr /> <div>{{CharInfobox|<br /> color={{pearl color}} |<br /> corecolor={{pearl color light}} |<br /> bordercolor={{pearl color dark}} |<br /> name=Dawn |<br /> jname=ヒカリ |<br /> tmname=Hikari |<br /> image=Platinum Dawn.png |<br /> size=250px |<br /> caption=Art from {{v2|Platinum}} |<br /> gender=Female |<br /> hometown=[[Twinleaf Town]] (as player)&lt;br&gt;[[Sandgem Town]] (as partner) |<br /> region=[[Sinnoh]] |<br /> relatives=[[Johanna]], unnamed father (as player)&lt;br&gt;Unnamed father, younger sister, grandfather (as partner) |<br /> age=yes |<br /> years=10 |<br /> colors=yes |<br /> eyes=Blue-gray{{tt|*|Diamond and Pearl}}, Slate gray{{tt|*|Platinum}} |<br /> hair=Blue-gray{{tt|*|Diamond and Pearl}}, Slate gray{{tt|*|Platinum}} |<br /> trainer=yes |<br /> trainerclass=[[Pokémon Trainer]], [[player character]] |<br /> game=yes |<br /> generation={{Gen|IV}} |<br /> games=[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond]], [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Pearl]], and {{v2|Platinum}} |<br /> leader=no |<br /> elite=no |<br /> team=no |<br /> brain=no |<br /> anime=counterpart |<br /> animecounterpart={{an|Dawn}} |<br /> epnum=DP001 |<br /> epname=Following a Maiden's Voyage!|<br /> manga=counterpart |<br /> mangacounterpart={{adv|Platinum}}, [[Mitsumi]] |<br /> roundnum=PS338|<br /> roundname=VS. Starly |<br /> }}<br /> <br /> '''Dawn''' (Japanese: '''ヒカリ''' ''Hikari'') is the female player character of {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}. Her male counterpart is {{ga|Lucas}}.<br /> <br /> {{an|Dawn}} is also a character from the {{pkmn|anime}} who travels with {{Ash}} and {{an|Brock}} in [[Sinnoh]]. She is modeled after the game character.<br /> <br /> [[Platinum (Adventures)|Platinum Berlitz]] from [[Pokémon Adventures]] and [[Mitsumi]] from [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure!]] are based off Dawn's design.<br /> <br /> ==Appearance==<br /> Dawn has grayish-blue hair and dark blue eyes. In [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond and Pearl]], Dawn wore a V-neck black mini-dress with a white blouse underneath, red scarf, gold hair-clips, pink skirt, a pink and white beanie with a Poké Ball design in it, black knee-high socks, a yellow bag, and pink short boots. In [[Pokémon Platinum Version|Platinum]], she wears an outfit more suitable for the weather in the game, which is a long-sleeved red trench coat-dress, with multiple pink buttons in it, and a white bag, white knee-high socks, with pink hair-clips instead of gold ones, and pink boots.<br /> <br /> ==In the games==<br /> ==={{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}===<br /> Dawn lives in [[Twinleaf Town]] with her mother and dreams big, so she and her {{ga|Barry|best friend}} (and soon-to-be [[rival]]) have high hopes of catching the {{p|Mesprit|legendary Pokémon}} of their nearby [[Lake Verity|Lake]]. After meeting Professor Rowan and his assistant {{ga|Lucas}}, they are attacked by wild {{p|Starly}} and as a last resort, use the Pokémon in the briefcase the Professor has forgotten. After bringing the Pokémon back Dawn receives the Pokémon she used as well as a Pokédex and goes on to gather the eight Badges of Sinnoh, defeat Team Galactic and conquer the Pokémon League all before taking on the Battle Tower.<br /> <br /> She has to stop [[Team Galactic]] from trying to use either {{p|Dialga}}{{sup/4|D}} or {{p|Palkia}}{{sup/4|P}} to destroy the entire universe in order to create a new one. <br /> <br /> If the player chooses Lucas, she will become {{Prof|Rowan}}'s assistant for the game. Dawn lives in [[Sandgem Town]] with her little sister, grandfather, and father—who works as an assistant of Professor Rowan. She is already the Professor's assistant at the beginning of the game. She also demonstrates to the player how to capture Pokémon by capturing a wild {{p|Bidoof}}. <br /> <br /> ====Pokémon====<br /> =====First battle (capture tutorial)=====<br /> {{MSP|387|Turtwig}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=DP Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=DP<br /> |location=Sinnoh Route 202<br /> |locationname=Route 202<br /> |pokemon=1}}<br /> | style=&quot;margin:auto&quot; |<br /> {{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=393<br /> |pokemon=Piplup<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=5<br /> |type1=Water<br /> |ability=Torrent<br /> |move1=Pound|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Growl|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> {{MSP|390|Chimchar}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=DP Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=DP<br /> |location=Sinnoh Route 202<br /> |locationname=Route 202<br /> |pokemon=1}}<br /> | style=&quot;margin:auto&quot; |<br /> {{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=387<br /> |pokemon=Turtwig<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=5<br /> |type1=Grass<br /> |ability=Overgrow<br /> |move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Withdraw|move2type=Water|move2cat=Status}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> {{MSP|393|Piplup}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |sprite=DP Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=DP<br /> |location=Sinnoh Route 202<br /> |locationname=Route 202<br /> |pokemon=1}}<br /> | style=&quot;margin:auto&quot; |<br /> {{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=390<br /> |pokemon=Chimchar<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=5<br /> |type1=Fire<br /> |ability=Blaze<br /> |move1=Scratch|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Leer|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> =====Caught in tutorial=====<br /> {{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |ndex=399 f<br /> |pokemon=Bidoof<br /> |level=2<br /> |gender=both<br /> |type1=Normal<br /> |ability=Simple|ability2=Unaware<br /> |move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical}}<br /> <br /> =====Second battle (as partner)=====<br /> {{MSP|387|Turtwig}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=DP Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=DP<br /> |location=Jubilife City<br /> |pokemon=1}}<br /> | style=&quot;margin:auto&quot; |<br /> {{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=393<br /> |pokemon=Piplup<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=13<br /> |type1=Water<br /> |ability=Torrent<br /> |move1=Bubble|move1type=Water|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Pound|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> {{MSP|390|Chimchar}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=DP Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=DP<br /> |location=Jubilife City<br /> |pokemon=1}}<br /> | style=&quot;margin:auto&quot; |<br /> {{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=387<br /> |pokemon=Turtwig<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=13<br /> |type1=Grass<br /> |ability=Overgrow<br /> |move1=Absorb|move1type=Grass|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Tackle|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> {{MSP|393|Piplup}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=DP Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=DP<br /> |back=yes<br /> |location=Jubilife City<br /> |pokemon=1}}<br /> | style=&quot;margin:auto&quot; |<br /> {{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=390<br /> |pokemon=Chimchar<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=13<br /> |type1=Fire<br /> |ability=Blaze<br /> |move1=Ember|move1type=Fire|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Scratch|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> =====Third battle (as partner)=====<br /> {{MSP|387|Turtwig}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=DP Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=DP<br /> |location=Veilstone City<br /> |pokemon=3}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=035<br /> |pokemon=Clefairy<br /> |gender=female<br /> |level=25<br /> |type1=Normal<br /> |ability=Cute Charm<br /> |move1=Metronome|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status<br /> |move2=Sing|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status<br /> |move3=Gravity|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Wake-Up Slap|move4type=Fighting|move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=064<br /> |pokemon=Kadabra<br /> |gender=male<br /> |spritegender=male<br /> |level=25<br /> |type1=Psychic<br /> |ability=Synchronize<br /> |move1=Psybeam|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Psycho Cut|move2type=Psychic|move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Light Screen|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Status}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=394<br /> |pokemon=Prinplup<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=28<br /> |type1=Water<br /> |ability=Torrent<br /> |move1=BubbleBeam|move1type=Water|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Peck|move2type=Flying|move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Fury Attack|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Metal Claw|move4type=Steel|move4cat=Physical}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> {{MSP|390|Chimchar}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=DP Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=DP<br /> |location=Veilstone City<br /> |pokemon=3}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=035<br /> |pokemon=Clefairy<br /> |gender=female<br /> |level=25<br /> |type1=Normal<br /> |ability=Cute Charm<br /> |move1=Metronome|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status<br /> |move2=Sing|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status<br /> |move3=Gravity|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Wake-Up Slap|move4type=Fighting|move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=064<br /> |pokemon=Kadabra<br /> |gender=male<br /> |spritegender=male<br /> |level=25<br /> |type1=Psychic<br /> |ability=Synchronize<br /> |move1=Psybeam|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Psycho Cut|move2type=Psychic|move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Light Screen|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Status}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=388<br /> |pokemon=Grotle<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=28<br /> |type1=Grass<br /> |ability=Overgrow<br /> |move1=Razor Leaf|move1type=Grass|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Mega Drain|move2type=Grass|move2cat=Special<br /> |move3=Bite|move3type=Dark|move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Curse|move4type=???|move4cat=Status}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> {{MSP|393|Piplup}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=DP Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=DP<br /> |location=Veilstone City<br /> |pokemon=3}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=035<br /> |pokemon=Clefairy<br /> |gender=female<br /> |level=25<br /> |type1=Normal<br /> |ability=Cute Charm<br /> |move1=Metronome|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status<br /> |move2=Sing|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status<br /> |move3=Gravity|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Wake-Up Slap|move4type=Fighting|move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |back=yes<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |ndex=064<br /> |pokemon=Kadabra<br /> |gender=male<br /> |spritegender=male<br /> |level=25<br /> |type1=Psychic<br /> |ability=Synchronize<br /> |move1=Psybeam|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Psycho Cut|move2type=Psychic|move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Light Screen|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Status}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=391<br /> |pokemon=Monferno<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=28<br /> |type1=Fire|type2=Fighting<br /> |ability=Blaze<br /> |move1=Flame Wheel|move1type=Fire|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Ember|move2type=Fire|move2cat=Special<br /> |move3=Mach Punch|move3type=Fighting|move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Fury Swipes|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> ====Quotes====<br /> =====[[Lake Verity]]=====<br /> :''&quot;[[Professor Rowan|Professor]], there isn't anything out of the ordinary on the other side, either!&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;Professor, how are you enjoying being back in Sinnoh? After being away for four years, it must be exciting again?&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;I beg your pardon... We'll be on our way.&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After battle with the [[Wild Pokémon|Wild]] {{p|Starly}}<br /> :''&quot;Oh! There's the briefcase! The professor would have been furious if I'd lost it... Huh? Oh, no! Did you... Did you use the Pokémon in here? You did?! Oh, my gosh! What's the professor going to say...? ... This is so not good... I'll take this briefcase for now.&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Before battle with Commander [[Mars]] (if talked to)<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;! It's T-Team Galactic! Oh no! The Pokémon of the lake...&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After battle with Commander Mars (if talked to)<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;, what is Team Galactic up to? Are the abducted Pokémon of the lakes going to be OK?&quot;''<br /> <br /> ====={{rt|201|Sinnoh}}=====<br /> :''&quot;Um... Yes! Professor, please wait for me! I think you should visit our lab later. OK, see you!&quot;''<br /> <br /> =====[[Sandgem Town]]=====<br /> :''&quot;Oh! There you are! Please, come with me! The professor is waiting! This is it! Our Pokémon Research Lab! Let's go...&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;Wow, what was that? Your friend sure seems to be really impatient. Well, anyway... Let's go inside.&quot;''<br /> <br /> * In Professor Rowan's lab<br /> :''&quot;I'm sure glad that you're kind toward Pokémon! If you weren't, I'd have to... Oh, I just can't say it...&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After receiving the Pokédex<br /> :''&quot;I've got one, too!&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;The Pokémon that I used for the first time was a {{p|Turtwig}}/{{p|Chimchar}}/{{p|Piplup}}! If you'd have chosen a Turtwig/Chimchar/Piplup at the lake, we'd have the same Pokémon now! Not that it matters, but... Anyway, I'm Dawn. I also help the professor add pages to the Pokédex. So, in a sense, I'm just like you. I just got a little head start on you, that's all. I'll be happy to teach you things. Glad to meet you, {{player|&lt;player&gt;}}!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Town tutorial<br /> :''&quot;OK, &lt;player&gt;, I'll act as your mentor. I've got a bit more experience than you as a Trainer and as the professor's assistant. OK, follow me! This building with the red roof is the Pokémon Center. It's the place that heals Pokémon that have been hurt in battle. You can find a Pokémon Center in most towns. The building with the blue roof over here is the Poké Mart. It's a shop where you can buy and sell items and medicine. &lt;player&gt;, since you're a novice Trainer, you won't be able to buy many kinds of merchandise. Don't let it bother you! Oh, that's right! &lt;player&gt;... Don't you need to let your family know that you're going to be helping Prof. Rowan with the Pokédex? You may need to go far away, so I think you should let someone know. Oh, but before you go, heal up your Pokémon at the [[Poké Center]]. It will be a lot less scary that way. OK, bye now!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Post game<br /> :''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! You're friends with the elder of [[Celestic Town]], aren't you? She told me that she had something she wanted to show you.&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* After talking to [[Cynthia]]’s grandmother<br /> ::''&quot;&lt;player&gt;! I heard from the professor! Congratulations, Champ!&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* When all Pokémon in [[List of Pokémon by Sinnoh Pokédex number|Sinnoh Pokédex listing]] are seen<br /> ::''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! May I see your Pokédex? ... Oh, my gosh! You've seen every kind of Pokémon in Sinnoh! Have you shown your Pokédex to Prof. Rowan yet?&quot;'' (before upgrade to National listing)<br /> ::''&quot;Hey, &lt;player&gt;, have you ever chatted with my kid sister?&quot;'' (after)<br /> <br /> :* After talking to Dawn’s sister<br /> ::''&quot;Oh, &lt;player&gt;, are you acquainted with [[Bebe]]? She lives in Hearthome City. Every Trainer should make it a point to pay Bebe a visit.&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* After talking to Bebe<br /> ::''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! How's your Poké Radar? When you use it, do you sometimes see more than one patch of tall grass rustling? The patch farther away gives you a better chance of seeing the same kind of Pokémon in a row. That's the feeling I get, anyway.&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* After used the Poké Radar<br /> ::''&quot;So, &lt;player&gt;. I'm also helping the professor put together the National Pokédex. Catching Pokémon can be really challenging, can't it? But, it's also so much fun!&quot;''<br /> ::''&quot;Sometimes a patch of grass sparkles when a Poké Radar is used. People say a [[Shiny Pokémon|differently-colored]] Pokémon is hiding there! Could that be true?&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* After completing the National Pokédex<br /> ::''&quot;&lt;player&gt;! &lt;player&gt;, &lt;player&gt;, &lt;player&gt;! Congratulations for completing the National Pokédex!&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* If talked to on the Player’s birthday<br /> ::''&quot;Is today maybe...Your birthday, &lt;player&gt;?&quot;''<br /> :::'''Yes''': ''&quot;Giggle...Congratulations, &lt;player&gt;! And many more happy returns!&quot;''<br /> :::'''No''': ''&quot;Oh, it isn't? I wonder what made me think that today was your birthday?&quot;''<br /> <br /> ====={{rt|202|Sinnoh}}=====<br /> * Haven’t talked to Mom<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;?! Did you tell your family that you’re helping the professor? ...You didn't, did you? I know that you're eager to see all kinds of Pokémon. But you shouldn't make your mom worry that you've disappeared.&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;You should go tell you family that you're helping the professor. The faster the better, too.&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Talked with Mom<br /> :''&quot;Oh, that's right! &lt;player&gt;, I haven't shown you how to catch a Pokémon. I'll demonstrate how to catch one, so just watch me, OK?&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Catching tutorial<br /> :''&quot;OK! Its HP is down! It's ready for a Poké Ball!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After tutorial<br /> :''&quot;Giggle... See? Isn't it neat? Actually, it's better to lower your target's HP more than I did. It's important to get the Pokémon's HP as low as possible. This is because a healthy Pokémon is very difficult to catch. Oh, Pokémon also get easier to catch if you make them sleep or something by using a Pokémon's move. OK, &lt;player&gt;, to get you started, I'll give you five Poké Balls.&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;If you have lots of Pokémon with you, it will be safer on long trips. Plus, it will be a lot more fun having your Pokémon friends along. OK, I need to get going. Bye, now!&quot;''<br /> <br /> =====[[Jubilife City]]=====<br /> :''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! Are you catching Pokémon? {{tt|...Um... I think you'd feel a lot safer if you were to catch some more.|caught less than 2 Pokémon}}/{{tt|You've already got &lt;#&gt; Pokémon with you! At that pace, your Pokédex should be full in no time at all!|caught 3 or more Pokémon}} In Jubilife City, there's the [[Trainers' School]], which... Well, you know. &lt;player&gt;, you should visit it. You'll get some tips on Pokémon. Oh yes, {{ga|Barry}} went to the Trainers' School earlier. OK, bye now!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Before battle with Team Galactic Grunts<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;! Let's battle together and teach these horrible men a lesson!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After battle<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;, did you know? The professor studies the evolution of Pokémon, too. According to his research, 90% of all Pokémon are somehow tied to evolution! I guess that means some Pokémon must undergo startling evolutions. So, &lt;player&gt;... Let's keep working on our Pokédex project for the professor!&quot;''<br /> <br /> ====={{rt|207|Sinnoh}}=====<br /> :''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! How's your Pokédex coming along? Me? I'm somewhere between fantastic and, uh, hopeless... But this isn't about me! I've got something nice for you. &lt;player&gt;, choose which hand you want.&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Regardless of which hand is chosen<br /> :''&quot;I see... You want the Vs. Seeker. I'm impressed, &lt;player&gt;. You know what's important. Using that Vs. Seeker, you can find Trainers who want a rematch with you. Oh, &lt;player&gt;, do you also have a Pokétch? Yup, you do. You can have this too, then. You deserve it for all your hard work, &lt;player&gt;. The &lt;sc&gt;Dowsing Machine&lt;/sc&gt; is something you should touch often. It will tell you if there is an item on the ground that you can't see. It will be especially useful inside dark caves. OK, let's keep working on our Pokédexes. Professor Rowan is counting on us!&quot;''<br /> <br /> =====[[Veilstone City]]=====<br /> * Before earning the Cobble Badge<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;, are you going to take the Gym challenge? Gee, you keep getting tougher and tougher, don't you? Me? Well, I went shopping at the department store, and... I mean, well, of course I've been working on my Pokédex, but... I'll catch you later!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After earning the Cobble Badge<br /> :''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! Please, can you help me? I dropped my Pokédex by accident and Team Galactic found it. Now they won't give it back. Please, I need your help. I'll be waiting in front of the warehouses. Please come!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * In front of the warehouses<br /> :''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! Please, can you help me? I dropped my Pokédex by accident and Team Galactic found it. Now they won't give it back. Please, I need your help. Team up and battle with me!&quot;''<br /> ::'''No''': ''&quot;I'll be waiting. Please get ready and come quickly.&quot;''<br /> ::'''Yes''': ''&quot;You and your Pokémon together with me and my Pokémon... United like this, our dream team has no chance of losing! I'm not letting those bad people get away with their dirty deeds!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After battle with Team Galactic Grunts<br /> :''&quot;What's going on? Why is Team Galactic out in the streets like they own the place? &lt;player&gt;, thank you, sincerely. If Professor Rowan ever finds out that I lost my Pokédex... Eewww... I don't want to think about it. So, &lt;player&gt;, what are you going to do now? I'm thinking of going to Pastoria City now. The Great Marsh there is home to many kinds of Pokémon.&quot;''<br /> <br /> =====[[Canalave Library]]===== <br /> :''&quot;You can count on me! It will help with my Pokédex, too. &lt;player&gt;, you'll go too, won't you?&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;Will do!&quot;''<br /> <br /> =====[[Canalave City]]=====<br /> * After the explosion in Lake Valor<br /> :''&quot;...&lt;player&gt;, you'll be OK, won’t you?&quot;''<br /> <br /> * If talked to<br /> :''&quot;We're going off to Lake Verity first... Don't do anything rash if something does happen.&quot;''<br /> <br /> =====[[Spear Pillar]]=====<br /> * After beating [[Cyrus]]<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;... I ran into Barry a little while ago. He said he believed in you, &lt;player&gt;. He said that you could get the job done. I feel the same way. Please help that Pokémon! It's suffering from being dragged out by Team Galactic!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After battling {{p|Dialga}}/{{p|Palkia}}<br /> :''&quot;Since the last time, the professor did a lot research... He became very concerned about you &lt;player&gt;, so he came out to a place as treacherous as this... &lt;player&gt;, I'm so glad you’re safe. Let's go home!&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* If talked to<br /> ::''&quot;...You know, that Pokémon was extraordinary, wasn’t it? Was it really the Pokémon that created the Sinnoh region...?&quot;''<br /> <br /> ==={{game|Platinum}}===<br /> In the events of Platinum, Dawn and Barry instead go to visit Professor Rowan at his lab rather than go to the lake in search of a Pokémon of the same rarity as a [[red Gyarados]]. They receive their Pokémon on {{rt|201|Sinnoh}} when Professor Rowan realizes that they are so dedicated to Pokémon as to attempt to travel from Twinleaf Town to [[Sandgem Town]] through the [[tall grass]] without any Pokémon of their own. <br /> <br /> In addition, Team Galactic attempts to use both {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}}, but they are stopped by {{p|Giratina}}. Finally, Dawn has to go to the [[Distortion World]] and face Giratina, in order to stop both worlds from destroying each other.<br /> <br /> She will again be {{Prof|Rowan}}'s assistant if the player chooses Lucas.<br /> <br /> [[Pokémon Black and White Versions|Years later]], her exploits are referenced by [[Cynthia]], who remembers a young Trainer who defeated her.<br /> <br /> ====Pokémon====<br /> =====First battle (capture tutorial)=====<br /> {{MSP|387|Turtwig}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=Pt Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Sinnoh Route 202<br /> |locationname=Route 202<br /> |pokemon=1<br /> }}<br /> | style=&quot;margin:auto&quot; |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=393<br /> |pokemon=Piplup<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=5<br /> |type1=Water<br /> |ability=Torrent<br /> |move1=Pound|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Growl|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> {{MSP|390|Chimchar}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=Pt Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Sinnoh Route 202<br /> |locationname=Route 202<br /> |pokemon=1<br /> }}<br /> | style=&quot;margin:auto&quot; |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=387<br /> |pokemon=Turtwig<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=5<br /> |type1=Grass<br /> |ability=Overgrow<br /> |move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Withdraw|move2type=Water|move2cat=Status}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> {{MSP|393|Piplup}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=Pt Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Sinnoh Route 202<br /> |locationname=Route 202<br /> |pokemon=1<br /> }}<br /> | style=&quot;margin:auto&quot; |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=390<br /> |pokemon=Chimchar<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=5<br /> |type1=Fire<br /> |ability=Blaze<br /> |move1=Scratch|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Leer|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> =====Caught in tutorial=====<br /> {{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=399 f<br /> |pokemon=Bidoof<br /> |type1=Normal<br /> |ability=Simple|ability2=Unaware<br /> |level=2<br /> |gender=both<br /> |move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical}}<br /> <br /> =====Second battle (as partner) vs x2 male Galactic Grunts=====<br /> {{MSP|387|Turtwig}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=Pt Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Jubilife City<br /> |pokemon=1<br /> }}<br /> | style=&quot;margin:auto&quot; |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=393<br /> |pokemon=Piplup<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=13<br /> |type1=Water<br /> |ability=Torrent<br /> |move1=Bubble|move1type=Water|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Pound|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> {{MSP|390|Chimchar}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=Pt Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Jubilife City<br /> |pokemon=1<br /> }}<br /> | style=&quot;margin:auto&quot; |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=387<br /> |pokemon=Turtwig<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=13<br /> |type1=Grass<br /> |ability=Overgrow<br /> |move1=Absorb|move1type=Grass|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Tackle|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> {{MSP|393|Piplup}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=Pt Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Jubilife City<br /> |pokemon=1<br /> }}<br /> | style=&quot;margin:auto&quot; |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=390<br /> |pokemon=Chimchar<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=13<br /> |type1=Fire<br /> |ability=Blaze<br /> |move1=Ember|move1type=Fire|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Scratch|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> =====Third battle (as partner) vs x2 male Team Galactic Grunts=====<br /> {{MSP|387|Turtwig}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=Pt Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Veilstone City<br /> |pokemon=3<br /> }}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=035<br /> |back=yes<br /> |pokemon=Clefairy<br /> |gender=female<br /> |level=25<br /> |type1=Normal<br /> |ability=Cute Charm<br /> |move1=Metronome|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status<br /> |move2=Sing|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status<br /> |move3=Gravity|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Wake-Up Slap|move4type=Fighting|move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=064<br /> |pokemon=Kadabra<br /> |gender=male<br /> |spritegender=male<br /> |level=25<br /> |type1=Psychic<br /> |ability=Synchronize<br /> |move1=Psybeam|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Psycho Cut|move2type=Psychic|move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Light Screen|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Status}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=394<br /> |pokemon=Prinplup<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=28<br /> |type1=Water<br /> |ability=Torrent<br /> |move1=BubbleBeam|move1type=Water|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Peck|move2type=Flying|move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Fury Attack|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Metal Claw|move4type=Steel|move4cat=Physical}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> {{MSP|390|Chimchar}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=Pt Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |back=yes<br /> |location=Veilstone City<br /> |pokemon=3<br /> }}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=035<br /> |pokemon=Clefairy<br /> |gender=female<br /> |level=25<br /> |type1=Normal<br /> |ability=Cute Charm<br /> |move1=Metronome|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status<br /> |move2=Sing|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status<br /> |move3=Gravity|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Wake-Up Slap|move4type=Fighting|move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=064<br /> |pokemon=Kadabra<br /> |gender=male<br /> |spritegender=male<br /> |level=25<br /> |type1=Psychic<br /> |ability=Synchronize<br /> |move1=Psybeam|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Psycho Cut|move2type=Psychic|move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Light Screen|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Status}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=388<br /> |pokemon=Grotle<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=28<br /> |type1=Grass<br /> |ability=Overgrow<br /> |move1=Razor Leaf|move1type=Grass|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Mega Drain|move2type=Grass|move2cat=Special<br /> |move3=Bite|move3type=Dark|move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Curse|move4type=???|move4cat=Status}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> {{MSP|393|Piplup}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=Pt Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Veilstone City<br /> |pokemon=3<br /> }}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=035<br /> |pokemon=Clefairy<br /> |gender=female<br /> |level=25<br /> |type1=Normal<br /> |ability=Cute Charm<br /> |move1=Metronome|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status<br /> |move2=Sing|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status<br /> |move3=Gravity|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Wake-Up Slap|move4type=Fighting|move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=064<br /> |pokemon=Kadabra<br /> |gender=male<br /> |spritegender=male<br /> |level=25<br /> |type1=Psychic<br /> |ability=Synchronize<br /> |move1=Psybeam|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Psycho Cut|move2type=Psychic|move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Light Screen|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Status}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=391<br /> |pokemon=Monferno<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=28<br /> |type1=Fire|type2=Fighting<br /> |ability=Blaze<br /> |move1=Flame Wheel|move1type=Fire|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Ember|move2type=Fire|move2cat=Special<br /> |move3=Mach Punch|move3type=Fighting|move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Fury Swipes|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> ====Quotes====<br /> ====={{rt|201|Sinnoh}}=====<br /> :''&quot;Professor Rowan. You left your briefcase at the lake! Oh? Is something wrong here?&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;Pardon?! Those Pokémon are hard to replace. Are you sure about giving them away?&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;Professor! Wait for me, please! I'm sorry... Please let me pass.&quot;''<br /> <br /> =====[[Sandgem Town]]=====<br /> :''&quot;Oh! There you are! Please, come with me! The professor is waiting! This is it! Our Pokémon Research Lab! Let's go...&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;Wow, what was that? Your friend sure seems to be really impatient. Well, anyway... Let's go inside.&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Inside the Lab<br /> :''&quot;I'm so glad that you’re kind toward Pokémon! If you weren't, I'd have to... Oh, I just can't say it...&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;I've got one, too!&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;The Pokémon that I met for the first time was a Turtwig/Chimchar/Piplup! If you would have chosen a Turtwig/Chimchar/Piplup on Route 201, we'd have the same Pokémon now! Not that it matters, but... Anyway, I'm Dawn. I also help the professor add pages to the Pokédex. So, in a sense, I'm just like you. I just got a little head start on you, that's all. I'll be happy to teach you things. Glad to meet you, &lt;player&gt;!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Town tutorial<br /> :''&quot;Oh, wow. I didn't know the professor had TMs. Was he a Trainer when he was young...? OK, &lt;player&gt;, I'll act as you mentor. I've got a bit more experience than you as a Trainer and as the professor’s assistant. OK, follow me! This building with the red roof is the Pokémon Center. It's the place that heals Pokémon that have been hurt in battle. You can find a Pokémon Center in most towns. The building with the blue roof over here is the Poke Mart. It's a shop where you can buy and sell items and medicine. &lt;player&gt;, since you're a novice Trainer, you won't be able to buy many kinds of merchandise. Don't let it bother you! Oh, that's right! &lt;player&gt;... Don't you need to let your family know that you're going to be helping Prof. Rowan with the Pokédex? You may need to go far away, so I think you should let someone know. Oh, but before you go, heal up your Pokémon at the Pokémon Center. It will be a lot less scary that way. OK, bye now!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * In the lab (after battling Giratina)<br /> :''&quot;The professor did a lot of checking up after you left. He was really worried about you, &lt;player&gt;... He contacted acquaintances looking for help, and... &lt;player&gt;, I'm glad to see you safe! Welcome back!&quot;''<br /> :* If talked to<br /> ::''&quot;So, I was thinking... Those Pokémon you met, &lt;player&gt;... Were they the ones said to be the creators of the Sinnoh region?&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After entering the [[Hall of Fame]]<br /> :''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! You're friends with the elder of Celestic Town, aren't you? She told me that she had something important to tell you.&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* After talking to Cynthia’s grandmother<br /> ::''&quot;Hey, &lt;player&gt;! The professor told me something. It's possible that either &lt;sc&gt;Dialga&lt;/sc&gt; or &lt;sc&gt;Palkia&lt;/sc&gt; will appear at the Spear Pillar!&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* After catching {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}}<br /> ::''&quot;&lt;player&gt;! I heard from the professor! Congratulations, Champ!&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* When all Pokémon in Sinnoh Pokédex listing are seen<br /> ::''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! May I see your Pokédex? ... Oh, my gosh! You've seen every kind of Pokémon in Sinnoh! Hey, let's go show your Pokédex to Prof. Rowan!&quot;'' (before upgrade to National listing)<br /> ::''&quot;Hey, &lt;player&gt;, have you ever chatted with my kid sister?&quot;'' (after)<br /> <br /> :* After talking to Dawn’s sister<br /> ::''&quot;Oh, &lt;player&gt;, are you acquainted with Bebe? She lives in Hearthome City. Every Trainer should make it a point to pay Bebe a visit. She's the administrator of the Pokemon Storage System. She's awesome!&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* After talking to Bebe<br /> ::''&quot;Hey! &lt;player&gt;, you've got a Poké Radar? I've got one, too! I'll show you how to use it. Come with me to Rt. 202!&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* After the Poké Radar Tutorial<br /> ::''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! How's your Poké Radar? When you use it, do you sometimes see more than one patch of tall grass rustling? I've heard that patches farther away gives you a better chance of seeing the same kind of Pokémon in a row.&quot;''<br /> ::''&quot;So, &lt;player&gt;. I'm also helping the professor put together the National Pokédex. Catching Pokémon can be really challenging, can't it? But, it's also so much fun!&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* After using the Poké Radar<br /> ::''&quot;Sometimes a patch of grass sparkles when a Poké Radar is used. People say a [[Shiny Pokémon|different-colored]] Pokémon is hiding there! Could that be true?&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* After completing the National Pokédex<br /> ::''&quot;&lt;player&gt;! &lt;player&gt;, &lt;player&gt;, &lt;player&gt;! Congratulations for completing the National Pokédex!&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* On the player's [[birthday]]<br /> ::''&quot;Is today maybe... Your birthday, &lt;player&gt;?&quot;''<br /> :::'''Yes''': ''&quot;Giggle... Congratulations, &lt;player&gt;! And many more happy returns!&quot;''<br /> :::'''No''': ''&quot;Oh, it isn't? I wonder what made me think that today was your birthday?&quot;''<br /> <br /> ====={{rt|202|Sinnoh}}=====<br /> * If you haven’t talked to your mom<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;?! Did you tell your family that you’re helping the professor? ...You didn't, did you? I know that you're really eager to see all kinds of Pokémon. But you shouldn't make you mom worry that you've disappeared.&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;You should go tell your family that you're helping the professor. The faster the better, too.&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Talked with Mom<br /> :''&quot;Oh, that's right! &lt;player&gt;, I haven't shown you how to catch a Pokémon. I'll demonstrate how to catch one, so just watch me, OK?&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Catching tutorial<br /> :''&quot;OK! Its HP is down! It's ready for a Poké Ball!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After tutorial<br /> :''&quot;Giggle... See? Isn't it neat? Actually, it's better to lower your target's HP more than I did. It's important to get the Pokémon's HP as low as possible. This is because a healthy Pokémon is very difficult to catch. Oh, Pokémon also get easier to catch if you make them sleep or something by using a Pokémon's move. OK, &lt;player&gt;, to get you started, I'll give you five Poké Balls!&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;If you have lots of Pokémon with you, it will be safer on long trips. Plus, it will be a lot more fun having your Pokémon friends along. OK, I need to get going. Bye, now!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Poké Radar tutorial<br /> :''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! I was waiting for you. Let me show you how the Poké Radar works. Let's not waste any time. So, when you use the Poké Radar... See? Did you notice the tall grass rustling? There's a Pokémon in that patch of tall grass. If you go there, the Pokémon will come bursting out. Now, this is where it gets interesting. If you see another patch of rustling grass some distance away, go to it. You'll see the same kind of Pokémon as before. If you want to keep meeting the same kind of Pokémon, you should maybe use some Repels.&quot;''<br /> <br /> =====Jubilife City=====<br /> :''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! Are you catching Pokémon? {{tt|...Um... I think you'd feel a lot safer if you were to catch some more. You know, like when you need to travel to faraway places.|caught less than 2 Pokémon}}/{{tt|You've already got &lt;#&gt; Pokémon with you! At that pace, your Pokédex should be full in no time at all!|caught 3 or more Pokémon}} Oh, I know! Don't you think it's better to know more about Pokémon? Sure it is! I know just the place. Come on! Don't be shy. Follow me! That [[Looker|man]]... What is he doing? Um...&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;Huh? What I beg your pardon? I was just making conversation...&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;...Working for the International Police must be hard. &lt;player&gt;, here it is. It's the Trainers' School. The name says it all! I saw your friend Barry go in earlier. He could still be in there studying. OK, bye now!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Before battle with Team Galactic Grunts<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;! Let's battle together!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After battle<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;, did you know? The professor studies the evolution of Pokémon, too. According to his research, 90% of all Pokémon are somehow tied to evolution! Well, maybe that's the reason those people tried to take the professor's research data by force. That's really unforgivable!&quot;''<br /> <br /> ====={{rt|207|Sinnoh}}=====<br /> :''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! How's your Pokédex coming along? Me? I'm somewhere between fantastic and, uh, hopeless... But this isn't about me! I've got something nice for you. &lt;player&gt;, choose which hand you want.<br /> <br /> * Regardless of which hand is chosen<br /> :''&quot;I see... You want the Vs. Seeker. I'm impressed, &lt;player&gt;. You know what's important. Using that Vs. Seeker, you can find Trainers who want a rematch with you. Oh, &lt;player&gt;, do you also have a Pokétch? Yup, you do. You can have this too, then. You deserve it for all your hard work, &lt;player&gt;. The &lt;sc&gt;Dowsing Machine&lt;/sc&gt; is something you should touch often. It will tell you if there is an item on the ground that you can't see. I think there's something here, even. You should try it out. OK, let's keep working on our Pokédexes. Professor Rowan is counting on us!&quot;''<br /> <br /> =====Veilstone City=====<br /> * Before earning the Cobble Badge<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;, are you going to take the Gym challenge? Gee, you keep getting tougher and tougher, don't you? Me? Well, I went shopping at the department store, and... I mean, well, of course I've been working on my Pokédex, but...&quot;'' <br /> :''&quot;... So, uh, &lt;player&gt;. Good luck on your Gym challenge.&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After earning the Cobble Badge<br /> :''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! Please, can you help me? Some Team Galactic goons took my Pokédex away from me. I need your help to get it back. I'll be waiting in front of the warehouses. Please come!&quot;<br /> <br /> * In front of the warehouses<br /> :''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! Please, can you help me? Do you remember Team Galactic? Those horrible people? They tried to steal Prof. Rowan's research results in Jubilife, remember? I ran into them, and they took away my Pokédex. Please, I need your help. Team up and battle with me!&quot;''<br /> :'''No''': ''&quot;I'll be waiting. Please get ready and come quickly.&quot;''<br /> :'''Yes''': ''&quot;You and your Pokémon together with me and my Pokémon... United like this, our dream team has no chance of losing! I'm not letting those bad people get away with their dirty deeds!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After battle with Team Galactic Grunts<br /> :''&quot;What's going on? Why is Team Galactic out in the streets like they own the place? &lt;player&gt;, thank you, sincerely. I would've been lost without my Pokédex. It's indispensable for helping Prof. Rowan with his studies. So, &lt;player&gt;, what are you going to do now? I'm thinking of going to the Pokémon Mansion on Route 212. I hear they show rare Pokémon to visitors there.&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;Oh...It's that funny man from Jubilife...&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;I'm terribly sorry. Team Galactic took my Pokédex, so I was very irritated... I just blurted it out... ...I should be going now. Be wary of Team Galactic.&quot;''<br /> <br /> =====Canalave Library===== <br /> :''&quot;You can count on me! It will help with my Pokédex, too. &lt;player&gt;, you'll go too, won't you?&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;Will do!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Outside Canalave Library, after explosion in Lake Valor<br /> :''&quot;...&lt;player&gt;, you'll be OK, no matter what, right?&quot;''<br /> <br /> :*If talked to<br /> ::''&quot;We're going off to Lake Verity first... Don't do anything rash if something does happen.&quot;''<br /> <br /> =====Lake Verity=====<br /> * Before battle with Commander Mars (If talked to)<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;! It's T-Team Galactic! They're taking the Pokémon of the lake... I... I couldn't beat this person...&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After battle with Commander Mars (If talked to)<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;, what is Team Galactic up to? Are the abducted Pokémon of the lakes going to be OK?&quot;''<br /> <br /> =====The [[Villa]]=====<br /> * After buying [[Villa decoration|Small Sofa]]<br /> :''&quot;Wow, &lt;player&gt;, this sofa is so sumptuous! You know, I think we have similar tastes, &lt;player&gt;.&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Visiting quotes (random)<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;, are you going to collect furniture now? Are you maybe the type who can't bear to use Technical Machines? The sort of person who ends up making a collection of them?&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;I had no idea that you can get a Villa as a gift. Who knows what can happen in life?&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;I'm envious of you having your own place. I have to share a bedroom with my little sister!&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;Sigh... To be with that special someone in a wonderful Villa like this... I think it's a nice dream to have.&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;You run into so many Pokémon in the Battle Zone. It's a bit much. So, &lt;player&gt;, please let me catch a little rest.&quot;''<br /> <br /> ==Artwork==<br /> {| style=&quot;margin:auto; text-align:center; {{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color}}; font-size:80%;&quot;<br /> |- <br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:100px; height:150px&quot;| [[File:Diamond Pearl Dawn.png|150px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:100px; height:150px&quot;| [[File:Dawn and Turtwig Sugimori.png|150px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:100px; height:150px&quot;| [[File:Sinnoh Underground.png|150px]]<br /> |- <br /> | Official artwork from&lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond and Pearl}}<br /> | Signed artwork by&lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Ken Sugimori}}<br /> | {{color2|000|Underground}} with {{color2|000|Lucas (game)|Lucas}}<br /> |- <br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:100px; height:150px&quot;| [[File:Pt Wifi Plaza.png|150px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:100px; height:150px&quot;| [[File:Seabreak path.png|150px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:100px; height:150px&quot;| [[File:Sinnoh Battle Frontier Brain artwork.png|150px]]<br /> |- <br /> | {{color2|000|Wi-Fi Plaza}} artwork<br /> | Discovering {{pcolor|Shaymin|000}} with {{color2|000|Lucas (game)|Lucas}} and {{color2|000|Professor Oak}}<br /> | {{color2|000|Battle Frontier (Generation IV)|Battle Frontier}} artwork<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ===Sprites===<br /> {| style=&quot;margin:auto; text-align:center; {{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color}}; font-size:80%;&quot;<br /> |- <br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:80px&quot;| [[File:Spr DP Dawn.png]]<br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:80px&quot;| [[File:Spr Pt Dawn.png]]<br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:80px&quot;| [[File:Dawnwalkdown.png]]<br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:80px&quot;| [[File:DawnPtwalkdown.png]]<br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:80px&quot;| [[File:DawnContestwalkdown.png]]<br /> |- <br /> | Sprite from &lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond and Pearl}}<br /> | Sprite from &lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Pokémon Platinum Version|Platinum}}<br /> | Overworld sprite from &lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond and Pearl}}<br /> | Overworld sprite from &lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Pokémon Platinum Version|Platinum}}<br /> | Overworld {{color2|000|Pokémon Super Contest|Super Contest}} sprite from&lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Generation IV}}<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:80px&quot;| [[File:DawnChallenge.png]]<br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:80px&quot;| [[File:DP Dawn Back.png]]<br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:80px&quot;| [[File:Pt Dawn Back.png]]<br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:80px&quot;| [[File:DP Dawn intro.png]]<br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:80px&quot;| [[File:Pt Dawn Intro.png]]<br /> |- <br /> | VS sprite from &lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Pokémon Platinum Version|Platinum}}<br /> | Back sprite from &lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond and Pearl}}<br /> | Back sprite from &lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Pokémon Platinum Version|Platinum}}<br /> | Intro sprite from &lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond and Pearl}}<br /> | Intro sprite from &lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Pokémon Platinum Version|Platinum}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Optional names==<br /> {| style=&quot;float:left; background: #{{pearl color light}}; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 3px solid #{{pearl color}}&quot;<br /> |- style=&quot;text-align:center&quot;<br /> ! Game<br /> ! Japanese<br /> ! English<br /> ! French<br /> ! German<br /> ! Italian<br /> ! Spanish<br /> ! Korean<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFF;&quot;<br /> |Diamond&lt;br&gt;Pearl&lt;br&gt;Platinum<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;ダイヤ ''Dia''<br /> パール ''Pearl''<br /> キョウコ ''Kyōko''<br /> キヨミ ''Kiyomi''<br /> サトコ ''Satoko''<br /> ジュンコ ''Junko''<br /> セツコ ''Setsuko''<br /> チナミ ''Chinami''<br /> チホ ''Chiho''<br /> ノリコ ''Noriko''<br /> ヒサエ ''Hisae''<br /> マキコ ''Makiko''<br /> マミナ ''Mamina''<br /> ミキコ ''Mikiko''<br /> ミスズ ''Misuzu''<br /> ミチコ ''Michiko''<br /> モモコ ''Momoko''<br /> ユキコ ''Yukiko''<br /> リエ ''Rie''&lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;Diamond<br /> Pearl<br /> Karla<br /> Britney<br /> Kelli<br /> Nina<br /> Heidi<br /> Miriam<br /> Teresa<br /> Aubrey<br /> Kelly<br /> Naomi<br /> Abby<br /> Denise<br /> Tamara<br /> Linda<br /> Faith<br /> Mari<br /> Maggie&lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;Diamant<br /> Perle<br /> Audrey<br /> Carmen<br /> Caro<br /> Claire<br /> Coralie<br /> Edith<br /> Flo<br /> Hélène<br /> Joanna<br /> Linda<br /> Lucie<br /> Marion<br /> Nadia<br /> Noémie<br /> Sayaka<br /> Sophie<br /> Yuki&lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;Diamant<br /> Perl<br /> Andrea<br /> Antje<br /> Birgit<br /> Daniela<br /> Diana<br /> Elena<br /> Eva<br /> Jamie<br /> Linda<br /> Mandy<br /> Pia<br /> Sara<br /> Sigrun<br /> Silke<br /> Sina<br /> Susi<br /> Ute&lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;Diaman<br /> Perl<br /> Amanda<br /> Cinzia<br /> Claudia<br /> Elisa<br /> Gaia<br /> Ilaria<br /> Isotta<br /> Ivana<br /> Letizia<br /> Linda<br /> Lorenza<br /> Luisa<br /> Monia<br /> Paola<br /> Sara<br /> Viviana<br /> Wilma&lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;Diamant<br /> Perla<br /> Aiora<br /> Aria<br /> Cira<br /> Claudia<br /> Izarbe<br /> María<br /> Mariau<br /> Matilde<br /> Mena<br /> Miriam<br /> Mirta<br /> Nayra<br /> Nuria<br /> Rita<br /> Salia<br /> Susa<br /> Teresa&lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;다이아몬드 ''Diamond''<br /> 펄 ''Pearl''<br /> 꽃님 ''Kkotnim''<br /> 나영 ''Nayeong''<br /> 나정 ''Najeong''<br /> 링링 ''Ringring''<br /> 미영 ''Miyeong''<br /> 사희 ''Sahyi''<br /> 서연 ''Seoyeon''<br /> 설아 ''Seola''<br /> 아라 ''Ara''<br /> 유경 ''Yugyeong''<br /> 윤혜 ''Yunhye''<br /> 은영 ''Eun'yeong''<br /> 인희 ''Inhyi''<br /> 주애 ''Juae''<br /> 지나 ''Jina''<br /> 태희 ''Taehyi''<br /> 해나 ''Haena''&lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |}{{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Counterparts==<br /> ===In the anime===<br /> [[File:Dawn anime.png|thumb|200px|right|Dawn's anime counterpart]]<br /> <br /> {{main|Dawn (anime)}}<br /> Like most of the other [[player character]]s, Dawn has an anime counterpart who shares her name. She is a former traveling partner of [[Ash Ketchum]] and a [[Pokémon Coordinator]].<br /> <br /> ===In the manga===<br /> Dawn also has two {{pkmn|manga}} counterparts: {{adv|Platinum|Platinum Berlitz}} from the [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga, and [[Mitsumi]] from the [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure!]] manga.<br /> <br /> ==In the TCG==<br /> This listing is of cards mentioning or featuring Dawn or her Pokémon in the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]].<br /> <br /> {{cardlist/header|Related cards|Supporter|char=yes}}<br /> {{cardlist/entry|cardname={{TCG ID|Majestic Dawn|Mom's Kindness|83}}|type=Supporter|enset=Majestic Dawn|enrarity=Uncommon|ennum=83/100|jpsetlink=Entry Pack '08|jpset=Torterra/Infernape/Empoleon Half Deck|jpsetlink2=Giratina vs Dialga Deck Kit|jpset2=Giratina/Dialga Half Deck|jpnum2=013/014|jpsetlink3=Gift Box DPt|jpset3=Piplup/Pikachu Half Deck|jpnum3=015/015|jpset4=Arceus LV.X Deck: Grass &amp; Fire|jpnum4=017/017|jpset5=Arceus LV.X Deck: Lightning &amp; Psychic|jpnum5=017/017}}<br /> {{cardlist/footer|Supporter}}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> * In both English and Japanese, Dawn shares her name with an [[evolutionary stone]]. However, it is not the same stone: her Japanese name is the same as the name of the Shiny Stone, not the Dawn Stone.<br /> * Dawn is 4'6&quot; (1.40 m) tall and weighs 75 lbs (34 kg).<br /> * The majority of her Japanese default names are shared with {{ga|Leaf}} and {{ga|Lyra}}. She also shares all of {{ga|Kris}}'s alternate Japanese names.<br /> * She shares her Chinese name with {{ga|Wally}}.<br /> <br /> ==Names==<br /> {| style=&quot;float:left; background: #{{pearl color light}}; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 3px solid #{{pearl color}}&quot;<br /> |- style=&quot;text-align:center&quot;<br /> ! Language<br /> ! Name<br /> ! Reference to<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFF;&quot;<br /> | Japanese<br /> | ヒカリ ''Hikari''<br /> | From 光/ひかり ''hikari'', light or shine.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFF;&quot;<br /> | English<br /> | Dawn<br /> | Probably a reference to ''Hikari''; dawn is the day's first light.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFF;&quot;<br /> | French<br /> | Aurore<br /> | From ''aurore'', dawn.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFF;&quot;<br /> | German<br /> | Lucia<br /> | From Latin ''lux'', light.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFF;&quot;<br /> | Italian<br /> | Lucinda<br /> | From ''luce'', light.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFF;&quot;<br /> | Spanish<br /> | Maya<br /> | Maya can be a reference to the {{wp|Maya civilization}}, who worshiped the sun.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFF;&quot;<br /> | Korean<br /> | 빛나 ''Bit'na''<br /> | From the Japanese name; means &quot;light&quot;, &quot;gleam&quot;, &quot;glow&quot;. Also, {{tt|빛|bit}} is a native Korean word which is a synonym for {{tt|光/광 |gwang}}<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFF;&quot;<br /> | Chinese (Taiwan)<br /> | 小光 ''Xiǎo Guāng''<br /> | From the Japanese name, {{tt|光/ひかり|hikari}}. Means &quot;{{tt|young|小, xiǎo}} {{tt|light|光, guāng}}&quot;.<br /> |}{{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Related articles==<br /> * [[Dawn (anime)]]<br /> <br /> {{Capture tutor}}<br /> {{Player characters}}<br /> {{NPC|pearl|sinnoh=yes}}&lt;br&gt;<br /> {{Project CharacterDex notice}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Diamond and Pearl characters]]<br /> [[Category:Platinum characters]]<br /> <br /> [[de:Lucia (Spielcharakter)]]<br /> [[es:Maya (personaje)]]<br /> [[fr:Aurore (jeux)]]<br /> [[it:Lucinda]]<br /> [[pl:Dawn]]<br /> [[pt:Dawn]]</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Dawn_(game)&diff=2311588 2015-07-23T05:15:13Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: added her age</p> <hr /> <div>{{CharInfobox|<br /> color={{pearl color}} |<br /> corecolor={{pearl color light}} |<br /> bordercolor={{pearl color dark}} |<br /> name=Dawn |<br /> jname=ヒカリ |<br /> tmname=Hikari |<br /> image=Platinum Dawn.png |<br /> size=250px |<br /> caption=Art from {{v2|Platinum}} |<br /> gender=Female |<br /> hometown=[[Twinleaf Town]] (as player)&lt;br&gt;[[Sandgem Town]] (as partner) |<br /> region=[[Sinnoh]] |<br /> relatives=[[Johanna]], unnamed father (as player)&lt;br&gt;Unnamed father, younger sister, grandfather (as partner) |<br /> age=yes |<br /> years=10 |<br /> colors=yes |<br /> eyes=Blue-gray{{tt|*|Diamond and Pearl}}, Slate gray{{tt|*|Platinum}} |<br /> hair=Blue-gray{{tt|*|Diamond and Pearl}}, Slate gray{{tt|*|Platinum}} |<br /> trainer=yes |<br /> trainerclass=[[Pokémon Trainer]], [[player character]] |<br /> game=yes |<br /> generation={{Gen|IV}} |<br /> games=[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond]], [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Pearl]], and {{v2|Platinum}} |<br /> leader=no |<br /> elite=no |<br /> team=no |<br /> brain=no |<br /> anime=counterpart |<br /> animecounterpart={{an|Dawn}} |<br /> epnum=DP001 |<br /> epname=Following a Maiden's Voyage!|<br /> manga=counterpart |<br /> mangacounterpart={{adv|Platinum}}, [[Mitsumi]] |<br /> roundnum=PS338|<br /> roundname=VS. Starly |<br /> }}<br /> <br /> '''Dawn''' (Japanese: '''ヒカリ''' ''Hikari'') is the female player character of {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}. Her male counterpart is {{ga|Lucas}}.<br /> <br /> {{an|Dawn}} is also a character from the {{pkmn|anime}} who travels with {{Ash}} and {{an|Brock}} in [[Sinnoh]]. She is modeled after the game character.<br /> <br /> [[Platinum (Adventures)|Platinum Berlitz]] from [[Pokémon Adventures]] and [[Mitsumi]] from [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure!]] are based off Dawn's design.<br /> <br /> ==Appearance==<br /> Dawn has grayish-blue hair and dark blue eyes. In [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond and Pearl]], Dawn wore a V-neck black mini-dress with a white blouse underneath, red scarf, gold hair-clips, pink skirt, a pink and white beanie with a Poké Ball design in it, black knee-high socks, a yellow bag, and pink short boots. In [[Pokémon Platinum Version|Platinum]], she wears an outfit more suitable for the weather in the game, which is a long-sleeved red trench coat-dress, with multiple pink buttons in it, and a white bag, white knee-high socks, with pink hair-clips instead of gold ones, and pink boots.<br /> <br /> ==In the games==<br /> ==={{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}===<br /> Dawn lives in [[Twinleaf Town]] with her mother and dreams big, so she and her {{ga|Barry|best friend}} (and soon-to-be [[rival]]) have high hopes of catching the {{p|Mesprit|legendary Pokémon}} of their nearby [[Lake Verity|Lake]]. After meeting Professor Rowan and his assistant {{ga|Lucas}}, they are attacked by wild {{p|Starly}} and as a last resort, use the Pokémon in the briefcase the Professor has forgotten. After bringing the Pokémon back Dawn receives the Pokémon she used as well as a Pokédex and goes on to gather the eight Badges of Sinnoh, defeat Team Galactic and conquer the Pokémon League all before taking on the Battle Tower.<br /> <br /> She has to stop [[Team Galactic]] from trying to use either {{p|Dialga}}{{sup/4|D}} or {{p|Palkia}}{{sup/4|P}} to destroy the entire universe in order to create a new one. <br /> <br /> If the player chooses Lucas, she will become {{Prof|Rowan}}'s assistant for the game. Dawn lives in [[Sandgem Town]] with her little sister, grandfather, and father—who works as an assistant of Professor Rowan. She is already the Professor's assistant at the beginning of the game. She also demonstrates to the player how to capture Pokémon by capturing a wild {{p|Bidoof}}. <br /> <br /> ====Pokémon====<br /> =====First battle (capture tutorial)=====<br /> {{MSP|387|Turtwig}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=DP Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=DP<br /> |location=Sinnoh Route 202<br /> |locationname=Route 202<br /> |pokemon=1}}<br /> | style=&quot;margin:auto&quot; |<br /> {{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=393<br /> |pokemon=Piplup<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=5<br /> |type1=Water<br /> |ability=Torrent<br /> |move1=Pound|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Growl|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> {{MSP|390|Chimchar}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=DP Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=DP<br /> |location=Sinnoh Route 202<br /> |locationname=Route 202<br /> |pokemon=1}}<br /> | style=&quot;margin:auto&quot; |<br /> {{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=387<br /> |pokemon=Turtwig<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=5<br /> |type1=Grass<br /> |ability=Overgrow<br /> |move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Withdraw|move2type=Water|move2cat=Status}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> {{MSP|393|Piplup}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |sprite=DP Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=DP<br /> |location=Sinnoh Route 202<br /> |locationname=Route 202<br /> |pokemon=1}}<br /> | style=&quot;margin:auto&quot; |<br /> {{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=390<br /> |pokemon=Chimchar<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=5<br /> |type1=Fire<br /> |ability=Blaze<br /> |move1=Scratch|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Leer|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> =====Caught in tutorial=====<br /> {{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |ndex=399 f<br /> |pokemon=Bidoof<br /> |level=2<br /> |gender=both<br /> |type1=Normal<br /> |ability=Simple|ability2=Unaware<br /> |move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical}}<br /> <br /> =====Second battle (as partner)=====<br /> {{MSP|387|Turtwig}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=DP Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=DP<br /> |location=Jubilife City<br /> |pokemon=1}}<br /> | style=&quot;margin:auto&quot; |<br /> {{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=393<br /> |pokemon=Piplup<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=13<br /> |type1=Water<br /> |ability=Torrent<br /> |move1=Bubble|move1type=Water|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Pound|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> {{MSP|390|Chimchar}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=DP Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=DP<br /> |location=Jubilife City<br /> |pokemon=1}}<br /> | style=&quot;margin:auto&quot; |<br /> {{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=387<br /> |pokemon=Turtwig<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=13<br /> |type1=Grass<br /> |ability=Overgrow<br /> |move1=Absorb|move1type=Grass|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Tackle|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> {{MSP|393|Piplup}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=DP Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=DP<br /> |back=yes<br /> |location=Jubilife City<br /> |pokemon=1}}<br /> | style=&quot;margin:auto&quot; |<br /> {{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=390<br /> |pokemon=Chimchar<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=13<br /> |type1=Fire<br /> |ability=Blaze<br /> |move1=Ember|move1type=Fire|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Scratch|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> =====Third battle (as partner)=====<br /> {{MSP|387|Turtwig}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=DP Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=DP<br /> |location=Veilstone City<br /> |pokemon=3}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=035<br /> |pokemon=Clefairy<br /> |gender=female<br /> |level=25<br /> |type1=Normal<br /> |ability=Cute Charm<br /> |move1=Metronome|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status<br /> |move2=Sing|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status<br /> |move3=Gravity|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Wake-Up Slap|move4type=Fighting|move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=064<br /> |pokemon=Kadabra<br /> |gender=male<br /> |spritegender=male<br /> |level=25<br /> |type1=Psychic<br /> |ability=Synchronize<br /> |move1=Psybeam|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Psycho Cut|move2type=Psychic|move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Light Screen|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Status}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=394<br /> |pokemon=Prinplup<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=28<br /> |type1=Water<br /> |ability=Torrent<br /> |move1=BubbleBeam|move1type=Water|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Peck|move2type=Flying|move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Fury Attack|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Metal Claw|move4type=Steel|move4cat=Physical}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> {{MSP|390|Chimchar}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=DP Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=DP<br /> |location=Veilstone City<br /> |pokemon=3}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=035<br /> |pokemon=Clefairy<br /> |gender=female<br /> |level=25<br /> |type1=Normal<br /> |ability=Cute Charm<br /> |move1=Metronome|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status<br /> |move2=Sing|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status<br /> |move3=Gravity|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Wake-Up Slap|move4type=Fighting|move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=064<br /> |pokemon=Kadabra<br /> |gender=male<br /> |spritegender=male<br /> |level=25<br /> |type1=Psychic<br /> |ability=Synchronize<br /> |move1=Psybeam|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Psycho Cut|move2type=Psychic|move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Light Screen|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Status}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=388<br /> |pokemon=Grotle<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=28<br /> |type1=Grass<br /> |ability=Overgrow<br /> |move1=Razor Leaf|move1type=Grass|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Mega Drain|move2type=Grass|move2cat=Special<br /> |move3=Bite|move3type=Dark|move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Curse|move4type=???|move4cat=Status}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> {{MSP|393|Piplup}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=DP Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=DP<br /> |location=Veilstone City<br /> |pokemon=3}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=035<br /> |pokemon=Clefairy<br /> |gender=female<br /> |level=25<br /> |type1=Normal<br /> |ability=Cute Charm<br /> |move1=Metronome|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status<br /> |move2=Sing|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status<br /> |move3=Gravity|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Wake-Up Slap|move4type=Fighting|move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |back=yes<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |ndex=064<br /> |pokemon=Kadabra<br /> |gender=male<br /> |spritegender=male<br /> |level=25<br /> |type1=Psychic<br /> |ability=Synchronize<br /> |move1=Psybeam|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Psycho Cut|move2type=Psychic|move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Light Screen|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Status}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Diamond<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=391<br /> |pokemon=Monferno<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=28<br /> |type1=Fire|type2=Fighting<br /> |ability=Blaze<br /> |move1=Flame Wheel|move1type=Fire|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Ember|move2type=Fire|move2cat=Special<br /> |move3=Mach Punch|move3type=Fighting|move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Fury Swipes|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> ====Quotes====<br /> =====[[Lake Verity]]=====<br /> :''&quot;[[Professor Rowan|Professor]], there isn't anything out of the ordinary on the other side, either!&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;Professor, how are you enjoying being back in Sinnoh? After being away for four years, it must be exciting again?&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;I beg your pardon... We'll be on our way.&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After battle with the [[Wild Pokémon|Wild]] {{p|Starly}}<br /> :''&quot;Oh! There's the briefcase! The professor would have been furious if I'd lost it... Huh? Oh, no! Did you... Did you use the Pokémon in here? You did?! Oh, my gosh! What's the professor going to say...? ... This is so not good... I'll take this briefcase for now.&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Before battle with Commander [[Mars]] (if talked to)<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;! It's T-Team Galactic! Oh no! The Pokémon of the lake...&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After battle with Commander Mars (if talked to)<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;, what is Team Galactic up to? Are the abducted Pokémon of the lakes going to be OK?&quot;''<br /> <br /> ====={{rt|201|Sinnoh}}=====<br /> :''&quot;Um... Yes! Professor, please wait for me! I think you should visit our lab later. OK, see you!&quot;''<br /> <br /> =====[[Sandgem Town]]=====<br /> :''&quot;Oh! There you are! Please, come with me! The professor is waiting! This is it! Our Pokémon Research Lab! Let's go...&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;Wow, what was that? Your friend sure seems to be really impatient. Well, anyway... Let's go inside.&quot;''<br /> <br /> * In Professor Rowan's lab<br /> :''&quot;I'm sure glad that you're kind toward Pokémon! If you weren't, I'd have to... Oh, I just can't say it...&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After receiving the Pokédex<br /> :''&quot;I've got one, too!&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;The Pokémon that I used for the first time was a {{p|Turtwig}}/{{p|Chimchar}}/{{p|Piplup}}! If you'd have chosen a Turtwig/Chimchar/Piplup at the lake, we'd have the same Pokémon now! Not that it matters, but... Anyway, I'm Dawn. I also help the professor add pages to the Pokédex. So, in a sense, I'm just like you. I just got a little head start on you, that's all. I'll be happy to teach you things. Glad to meet you, {{player|&lt;player&gt;}}!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Town tutorial<br /> :''&quot;OK, &lt;player&gt;, I'll act as your mentor. I've got a bit more experience than you as a Trainer and as the professor's assistant. OK, follow me! This building with the red roof is the Pokémon Center. It's the place that heals Pokémon that have been hurt in battle. You can find a Pokémon Center in most towns. The building with the blue roof over here is the Poké Mart. It's a shop where you can buy and sell items and medicine. &lt;player&gt;, since you're a novice Trainer, you won't be able to buy many kinds of merchandise. Don't let it bother you! Oh, that's right! &lt;player&gt;... Don't you need to let your family know that you're going to be helping Prof. Rowan with the Pokédex? You may need to go far away, so I think you should let someone know. Oh, but before you go, heal up your Pokémon at the [[Poké Center]]. It will be a lot less scary that way. OK, bye now!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Post game<br /> :''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! You're friends with the elder of [[Celestic Town]], aren't you? She told me that she had something she wanted to show you.&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* After talking to [[Cynthia]]’s grandmother<br /> ::''&quot;&lt;player&gt;! I heard from the professor! Congratulations, Champ!&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* When all Pokémon in [[List of Pokémon by Sinnoh Pokédex number|Sinnoh Pokédex listing]] are seen<br /> ::''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! May I see your Pokédex? ... Oh, my gosh! You've seen every kind of Pokémon in Sinnoh! Have you shown your Pokédex to Prof. Rowan yet?&quot;'' (before upgrade to National listing)<br /> ::''&quot;Hey, &lt;player&gt;, have you ever chatted with my kid sister?&quot;'' (after)<br /> <br /> :* After talking to Dawn’s sister<br /> ::''&quot;Oh, &lt;player&gt;, are you acquainted with [[Bebe]]? She lives in Hearthome City. Every Trainer should make it a point to pay Bebe a visit.&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* After talking to Bebe<br /> ::''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! How's your Poké Radar? When you use it, do you sometimes see more than one patch of tall grass rustling? The patch farther away gives you a better chance of seeing the same kind of Pokémon in a row. That's the feeling I get, anyway.&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* After used the Poké Radar<br /> ::''&quot;So, &lt;player&gt;. I'm also helping the professor put together the National Pokédex. Catching Pokémon can be really challenging, can't it? But, it's also so much fun!&quot;''<br /> ::''&quot;Sometimes a patch of grass sparkles when a Poké Radar is used. People say a [[Shiny Pokémon|differently-colored]] Pokémon is hiding there! Could that be true?&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* After completing the National Pokédex<br /> ::''&quot;&lt;player&gt;! &lt;player&gt;, &lt;player&gt;, &lt;player&gt;! Congratulations for completing the National Pokédex!&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* If talked to on the Player’s birthday<br /> ::''&quot;Is today maybe...Your birthday, &lt;player&gt;?&quot;''<br /> :::'''Yes''': ''&quot;Giggle...Congratulations, &lt;player&gt;! And many more happy returns!&quot;''<br /> :::'''No''': ''&quot;Oh, it isn't? I wonder what made me think that today was your birthday?&quot;''<br /> <br /> ====={{rt|202|Sinnoh}}=====<br /> * Haven’t talked to Mom<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;?! Did you tell your family that you’re helping the professor? ...You didn't, did you? I know that you're eager to see all kinds of Pokémon. But you shouldn't make your mom worry that you've disappeared.&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;You should go tell you family that you're helping the professor. The faster the better, too.&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Talked with Mom<br /> :''&quot;Oh, that's right! &lt;player&gt;, I haven't shown you how to catch a Pokémon. I'll demonstrate how to catch one, so just watch me, OK?&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Catching tutorial<br /> :''&quot;OK! Its HP is down! It's ready for a Poké Ball!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After tutorial<br /> :''&quot;Giggle... See? Isn't it neat? Actually, it's better to lower your target's HP more than I did. It's important to get the Pokémon's HP as low as possible. This is because a healthy Pokémon is very difficult to catch. Oh, Pokémon also get easier to catch if you make them sleep or something by using a Pokémon's move. OK, &lt;player&gt;, to get you started, I'll give you five Poké Balls.&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;If you have lots of Pokémon with you, it will be safer on long trips. Plus, it will be a lot more fun having your Pokémon friends along. OK, I need to get going. Bye, now!&quot;''<br /> <br /> =====[[Jubilife City]]=====<br /> :''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! Are you catching Pokémon? {{tt|...Um... I think you'd feel a lot safer if you were to catch some more.|caught less than 2 Pokémon}}/{{tt|You've already got &lt;#&gt; Pokémon with you! At that pace, your Pokédex should be full in no time at all!|caught 3 or more Pokémon}} In Jubilife City, there's the [[Trainers' School]], which... Well, you know. &lt;player&gt;, you should visit it. You'll get some tips on Pokémon. Oh yes, {{ga|Barry}} went to the Trainers' School earlier. OK, bye now!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Before battle with Team Galactic Grunts<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;! Let's battle together and teach these horrible men a lesson!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After battle<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;, did you know? The professor studies the evolution of Pokémon, too. According to his research, 90% of all Pokémon are somehow tied to evolution! I guess that means some Pokémon must undergo startling evolutions. So, &lt;player&gt;... Let's keep working on our Pokédex project for the professor!&quot;''<br /> <br /> ====={{rt|207|Sinnoh}}=====<br /> :''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! How's your Pokédex coming along? Me? I'm somewhere between fantastic and, uh, hopeless... But this isn't about me! I've got something nice for you. &lt;player&gt;, choose which hand you want.&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Regardless of which hand is chosen<br /> :''&quot;I see... You want the Vs. Seeker. I'm impressed, &lt;player&gt;. You know what's important. Using that Vs. Seeker, you can find Trainers who want a rematch with you. Oh, &lt;player&gt;, do you also have a Pokétch? Yup, you do. You can have this too, then. You deserve it for all your hard work, &lt;player&gt;. The &lt;sc&gt;Dowsing Machine&lt;/sc&gt; is something you should touch often. It will tell you if there is an item on the ground that you can't see. It will be especially useful inside dark caves. OK, let's keep working on our Pokédexes. Professor Rowan is counting on us!&quot;''<br /> <br /> =====[[Veilstone City]]=====<br /> * Before earning the Cobble Badge<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;, are you going to take the Gym challenge? Gee, you keep getting tougher and tougher, don't you? Me? Well, I went shopping at the department store, and... I mean, well, of course I've been working on my Pokédex, but... I'll catch you later!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After earning the Cobble Badge<br /> :''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! Please, can you help me? I dropped my Pokédex by accident and Team Galactic found it. Now they won't give it back. Please, I need your help. I'll be waiting in front of the warehouses. Please come!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * In front of the warehouses<br /> :''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! Please, can you help me? I dropped my Pokédex by accident and Team Galactic found it. Now they won't give it back. Please, I need your help. Team up and battle with me!&quot;''<br /> ::'''No''': ''&quot;I'll be waiting. Please get ready and come quickly.&quot;''<br /> ::'''Yes''': ''&quot;You and your Pokémon together with me and my Pokémon... United like this, our dream team has no chance of losing! I'm not letting those bad people get away with their dirty deeds!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After battle with Team Galactic Grunts<br /> :''&quot;What's going on? Why is Team Galactic out in the streets like they own the place? &lt;player&gt;, thank you, sincerely. If Professor Rowan ever finds out that I lost my Pokédex... Eewww... I don't want to think about it. So, &lt;player&gt;, what are you going to do now? I'm thinking of going to Pastoria City now. The Great Marsh there is home to many kinds of Pokémon.&quot;''<br /> <br /> =====[[Canalave Library]]===== <br /> :''&quot;You can count on me! It will help with my Pokédex, too. &lt;player&gt;, you'll go too, won't you?&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;Will do!&quot;''<br /> <br /> =====[[Canalave City]]=====<br /> * After the explosion in Lake Valor<br /> :''&quot;...&lt;player&gt;, you'll be OK, won’t you?&quot;''<br /> <br /> * If talked to<br /> :''&quot;We're going off to Lake Verity first... Don't do anything rash if something does happen.&quot;''<br /> <br /> =====[[Spear Pillar]]=====<br /> * After beating [[Cyrus]]<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;... I ran into Barry a little while ago. He said he believed in you, &lt;player&gt;. He said that you could get the job done. I feel the same way. Please help that Pokémon! It's suffering from being dragged out by Team Galactic!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After battling {{p|Dialga}}/{{p|Palkia}}<br /> :''&quot;Since the last time, the professor did a lot research... He became very concerned about you &lt;player&gt;, so he came out to a place as treacherous as this... &lt;player&gt;, I'm so glad you’re safe. Let's go home!&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* If talked to<br /> ::''&quot;...You know, that Pokémon was extraordinary, wasn’t it? Was it really the Pokémon that created the Sinnoh region...?&quot;''<br /> <br /> ==={{game|Platinum}}===<br /> In the events of Platinum, Dawn and Barry instead go to visit Professor Rowan at his lab rather than go to the lake in search of a Pokémon of the same rarity as a [[red Gyarados]]. They receive their Pokémon on {{rt|201|Sinnoh}} when Professor Rowan realizes that they are so dedicated to Pokémon as to attempt to travel from Twinleaf Town to [[Sandgem Town]] through the [[tall grass]] without any Pokémon of their own. <br /> <br /> In addition, Team Galactic attempts to use both {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}}, but they are stopped by {{p|Giratina}}. Finally, Dawn has to go to the [[Distortion World]] and face Giratina, in order to stop both worlds from destroying each other.<br /> <br /> She will again be {{Prof|Rowan}}'s assistant if the player chooses Lucas.<br /> <br /> [[Pokémon Black and White Versions|Years later]], her exploits are referenced by [[Cynthia]], who remembers a young Trainer who defeated her.<br /> <br /> ====Pokémon====<br /> =====First battle (capture tutorial)=====<br /> {{MSP|387|Turtwig}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=Pt Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Sinnoh Route 202<br /> |locationname=Route 202<br /> |pokemon=1<br /> }}<br /> | style=&quot;margin:auto&quot; |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=393<br /> |pokemon=Piplup<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=5<br /> |type1=Water<br /> |ability=Torrent<br /> |move1=Pound|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Growl|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> {{MSP|390|Chimchar}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=Pt Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Sinnoh Route 202<br /> |locationname=Route 202<br /> |pokemon=1<br /> }}<br /> | style=&quot;margin:auto&quot; |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=387<br /> |pokemon=Turtwig<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=5<br /> |type1=Grass<br /> |ability=Overgrow<br /> |move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Withdraw|move2type=Water|move2cat=Status}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> {{MSP|393|Piplup}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=Pt Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Sinnoh Route 202<br /> |locationname=Route 202<br /> |pokemon=1<br /> }}<br /> | style=&quot;margin:auto&quot; |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=390<br /> |pokemon=Chimchar<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=5<br /> |type1=Fire<br /> |ability=Blaze<br /> |move1=Scratch|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Leer|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> =====Caught in tutorial=====<br /> {{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=399 f<br /> |pokemon=Bidoof<br /> |type1=Normal<br /> |ability=Simple|ability2=Unaware<br /> |level=2<br /> |gender=both<br /> |move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical}}<br /> <br /> =====Second battle (as partner) vs x2 male Galactic Grunts=====<br /> {{MSP|387|Turtwig}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=Pt Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Jubilife City<br /> |pokemon=1<br /> }}<br /> | style=&quot;margin:auto&quot; |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=393<br /> |pokemon=Piplup<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=13<br /> |type1=Water<br /> |ability=Torrent<br /> |move1=Bubble|move1type=Water|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Pound|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> {{MSP|390|Chimchar}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=Pt Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Jubilife City<br /> |pokemon=1<br /> }}<br /> | style=&quot;margin:auto&quot; |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=387<br /> |pokemon=Turtwig<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=13<br /> |type1=Grass<br /> |ability=Overgrow<br /> |move1=Absorb|move1type=Grass|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Tackle|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> {{MSP|393|Piplup}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=Pt Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Jubilife City<br /> |pokemon=1<br /> }}<br /> | style=&quot;margin:auto&quot; |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=390<br /> |pokemon=Chimchar<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=13<br /> |type1=Fire<br /> |ability=Blaze<br /> |move1=Ember|move1type=Fire|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Scratch|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> =====Third battle (as partner) vs x2 male Team Galactic Grunts=====<br /> {{MSP|387|Turtwig}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=Pt Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Veilstone City<br /> |pokemon=3<br /> }}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=035<br /> |back=yes<br /> |pokemon=Clefairy<br /> |gender=female<br /> |level=25<br /> |type1=Normal<br /> |ability=Cute Charm<br /> |move1=Metronome|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status<br /> |move2=Sing|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status<br /> |move3=Gravity|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Wake-Up Slap|move4type=Fighting|move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=064<br /> |pokemon=Kadabra<br /> |gender=male<br /> |spritegender=male<br /> |level=25<br /> |type1=Psychic<br /> |ability=Synchronize<br /> |move1=Psybeam|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Psycho Cut|move2type=Psychic|move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Light Screen|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Status}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=394<br /> |pokemon=Prinplup<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=28<br /> |type1=Water<br /> |ability=Torrent<br /> |move1=BubbleBeam|move1type=Water|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Peck|move2type=Flying|move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Fury Attack|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Metal Claw|move4type=Steel|move4cat=Physical}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> {{MSP|390|Chimchar}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=Pt Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |back=yes<br /> |location=Veilstone City<br /> |pokemon=3<br /> }}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=035<br /> |pokemon=Clefairy<br /> |gender=female<br /> |level=25<br /> |type1=Normal<br /> |ability=Cute Charm<br /> |move1=Metronome|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status<br /> |move2=Sing|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status<br /> |move3=Gravity|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Wake-Up Slap|move4type=Fighting|move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=064<br /> |pokemon=Kadabra<br /> |gender=male<br /> |spritegender=male<br /> |level=25<br /> |type1=Psychic<br /> |ability=Synchronize<br /> |move1=Psybeam|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Psycho Cut|move2type=Psychic|move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Light Screen|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Status}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=388<br /> |pokemon=Grotle<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=28<br /> |type1=Grass<br /> |ability=Overgrow<br /> |move1=Razor Leaf|move1type=Grass|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Mega Drain|move2type=Grass|move2cat=Special<br /> |move3=Bite|move3type=Dark|move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Curse|move4type=???|move4cat=Status}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> {{MSP|393|Piplup}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:<br /> {{Party/Single<br /> |color={{pearl color}}<br /> |headcolor={{pearl color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}<br /> |sprite=Pt Dawn Back.png<br /> |prize=N/A<br /> |class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> |classlink=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Dawn<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Veilstone City<br /> |pokemon=3<br /> }}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=035<br /> |pokemon=Clefairy<br /> |gender=female<br /> |level=25<br /> |type1=Normal<br /> |ability=Cute Charm<br /> |move1=Metronome|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status<br /> |move2=Sing|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status<br /> |move3=Gravity|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Wake-Up Slap|move4type=Fighting|move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=064<br /> |pokemon=Kadabra<br /> |gender=male<br /> |spritegender=male<br /> |level=25<br /> |type1=Psychic<br /> |ability=Synchronize<br /> |move1=Psybeam|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Psycho Cut|move2type=Psychic|move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Light Screen|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Status}}<br /> |{{Pokémon/4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |back=yes<br /> |ndex=391<br /> |pokemon=Monferno<br /> |gender=both<br /> |level=28<br /> |type1=Fire|type2=Fighting<br /> |ability=Blaze<br /> |move1=Flame Wheel|move1type=Fire|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Ember|move2type=Fire|move2cat=Special<br /> |move3=Mach Punch|move3type=Fighting|move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Fury Swipes|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> <br /> ====Quotes====<br /> ====={{rt|201|Sinnoh}}=====<br /> :''&quot;Professor Rowan. You left your briefcase at the lake! Oh? Is something wrong here?&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;Pardon?! Those Pokémon are hard to replace. Are you sure about giving them away?&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;Professor! Wait for me, please! I'm sorry... Please let me pass.&quot;''<br /> <br /> =====[[Sandgem Town]]=====<br /> :''&quot;Oh! There you are! Please, come with me! The professor is waiting! This is it! Our Pokémon Research Lab! Let's go...&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;Wow, what was that? Your friend sure seems to be really impatient. Well, anyway... Let's go inside.&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Inside the Lab<br /> :''&quot;I'm so glad that you’re kind toward Pokémon! If you weren't, I'd have to... Oh, I just can't say it...&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;I've got one, too!&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;The Pokémon that I met for the first time was a Turtwig/Chimchar/Piplup! If you would have chosen a Turtwig/Chimchar/Piplup on Route 201, we'd have the same Pokémon now! Not that it matters, but... Anyway, I'm Dawn. I also help the professor add pages to the Pokédex. So, in a sense, I'm just like you. I just got a little head start on you, that's all. I'll be happy to teach you things. Glad to meet you, &lt;player&gt;!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Town tutorial<br /> :''&quot;Oh, wow. I didn't know the professor had TMs. Was he a Trainer when he was young...? OK, &lt;player&gt;, I'll act as you mentor. I've got a bit more experience than you as a Trainer and as the professor’s assistant. OK, follow me! This building with the red roof is the Pokémon Center. It's the place that heals Pokémon that have been hurt in battle. You can find a Pokémon Center in most towns. The building with the blue roof over here is the Poke Mart. It's a shop where you can buy and sell items and medicine. &lt;player&gt;, since you're a novice Trainer, you won't be able to buy many kinds of merchandise. Don't let it bother you! Oh, that's right! &lt;player&gt;... Don't you need to let your family know that you're going to be helping Prof. Rowan with the Pokédex? You may need to go far away, so I think you should let someone know. Oh, but before you go, heal up your Pokémon at the Pokémon Center. It will be a lot less scary that way. OK, bye now!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * In the lab (after battling Giratina)<br /> :''&quot;The professor did a lot of checking up after you left. He was really worried about you, &lt;player&gt;... He contacted acquaintances looking for help, and... &lt;player&gt;, I'm glad to see you safe! Welcome back!&quot;''<br /> :* If talked to<br /> ::''&quot;So, I was thinking... Those Pokémon you met, &lt;player&gt;... Were they the ones said to be the creators of the Sinnoh region?&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After entering the [[Hall of Fame]]<br /> :''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! You're friends with the elder of Celestic Town, aren't you? She told me that she had something important to tell you.&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* After talking to Cynthia’s grandmother<br /> ::''&quot;Hey, &lt;player&gt;! The professor told me something. It's possible that either &lt;sc&gt;Dialga&lt;/sc&gt; or &lt;sc&gt;Palkia&lt;/sc&gt; will appear at the Spear Pillar!&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* After catching {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}}<br /> ::''&quot;&lt;player&gt;! I heard from the professor! Congratulations, Champ!&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* When all Pokémon in Sinnoh Pokédex listing are seen<br /> ::''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! May I see your Pokédex? ... Oh, my gosh! You've seen every kind of Pokémon in Sinnoh! Hey, let's go show your Pokédex to Prof. Rowan!&quot;'' (before upgrade to National listing)<br /> ::''&quot;Hey, &lt;player&gt;, have you ever chatted with my kid sister?&quot;'' (after)<br /> <br /> :* After talking to Dawn’s sister<br /> ::''&quot;Oh, &lt;player&gt;, are you acquainted with Bebe? She lives in Hearthome City. Every Trainer should make it a point to pay Bebe a visit. She's the administrator of the Pokemon Storage System. She's awesome!&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* After talking to Bebe<br /> ::''&quot;Hey! &lt;player&gt;, you've got a Poké Radar? I've got one, too! I'll show you how to use it. Come with me to Rt. 202!&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* After the Poké Radar Tutorial<br /> ::''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! How's your Poké Radar? When you use it, do you sometimes see more than one patch of tall grass rustling? I've heard that patches farther away gives you a better chance of seeing the same kind of Pokémon in a row.&quot;''<br /> ::''&quot;So, &lt;player&gt;. I'm also helping the professor put together the National Pokédex. Catching Pokémon can be really challenging, can't it? But, it's also so much fun!&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* After using the Poké Radar<br /> ::''&quot;Sometimes a patch of grass sparkles when a Poké Radar is used. People say a [[Shiny Pokémon|different-colored]] Pokémon is hiding there! Could that be true?&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* After completing the National Pokédex<br /> ::''&quot;&lt;player&gt;! &lt;player&gt;, &lt;player&gt;, &lt;player&gt;! Congratulations for completing the National Pokédex!&quot;''<br /> <br /> :* On the player's [[birthday]]<br /> ::''&quot;Is today maybe... Your birthday, &lt;player&gt;?&quot;''<br /> :::'''Yes''': ''&quot;Giggle... Congratulations, &lt;player&gt;! And many more happy returns!&quot;''<br /> :::'''No''': ''&quot;Oh, it isn't? I wonder what made me think that today was your birthday?&quot;''<br /> <br /> ====={{rt|202|Sinnoh}}=====<br /> * If you haven’t talked to your mom<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;?! Did you tell your family that you’re helping the professor? ...You didn't, did you? I know that you're really eager to see all kinds of Pokémon. But you shouldn't make you mom worry that you've disappeared.&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;You should go tell your family that you're helping the professor. The faster the better, too.&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Talked with Mom<br /> :''&quot;Oh, that's right! &lt;player&gt;, I haven't shown you how to catch a Pokémon. I'll demonstrate how to catch one, so just watch me, OK?&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Catching tutorial<br /> :''&quot;OK! Its HP is down! It's ready for a Poké Ball!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After tutorial<br /> :''&quot;Giggle... See? Isn't it neat? Actually, it's better to lower your target's HP more than I did. It's important to get the Pokémon's HP as low as possible. This is because a healthy Pokémon is very difficult to catch. Oh, Pokémon also get easier to catch if you make them sleep or something by using a Pokémon's move. OK, &lt;player&gt;, to get you started, I'll give you five Poké Balls!&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;If you have lots of Pokémon with you, it will be safer on long trips. Plus, it will be a lot more fun having your Pokémon friends along. OK, I need to get going. Bye, now!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Poké Radar tutorial<br /> :''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! I was waiting for you. Let me show you how the Poké Radar works. Let's not waste any time. So, when you use the Poké Radar... See? Did you notice the tall grass rustling? There's a Pokémon in that patch of tall grass. If you go there, the Pokémon will come bursting out. Now, this is where it gets interesting. If you see another patch of rustling grass some distance away, go to it. You'll see the same kind of Pokémon as before. If you want to keep meeting the same kind of Pokémon, you should maybe use some Repels.&quot;''<br /> <br /> =====Jubilife City=====<br /> :''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! Are you catching Pokémon? {{tt|...Um... I think you'd feel a lot safer if you were to catch some more. You know, like when you need to travel to faraway places.|caught less than 2 Pokémon}}/{{tt|You've already got &lt;#&gt; Pokémon with you! At that pace, your Pokédex should be full in no time at all!|caught 3 or more Pokémon}} Oh, I know! Don't you think it's better to know more about Pokémon? Sure it is! I know just the place. Come on! Don't be shy. Follow me! That [[Looker|man]]... What is he doing? Um...&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;Huh? What I beg your pardon? I was just making conversation...&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;...Working for the International Police must be hard. &lt;player&gt;, here it is. It's the Trainers' School. The name says it all! I saw your friend Barry go in earlier. He could still be in there studying. OK, bye now!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Before battle with Team Galactic Grunts<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;! Let's battle together!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After battle<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;, did you know? The professor studies the evolution of Pokémon, too. According to his research, 90% of all Pokémon are somehow tied to evolution! Well, maybe that's the reason those people tried to take the professor's research data by force. That's really unforgivable!&quot;''<br /> <br /> ====={{rt|207|Sinnoh}}=====<br /> :''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! How's your Pokédex coming along? Me? I'm somewhere between fantastic and, uh, hopeless... But this isn't about me! I've got something nice for you. &lt;player&gt;, choose which hand you want.<br /> <br /> * Regardless of which hand is chosen<br /> :''&quot;I see... You want the Vs. Seeker. I'm impressed, &lt;player&gt;. You know what's important. Using that Vs. Seeker, you can find Trainers who want a rematch with you. Oh, &lt;player&gt;, do you also have a Pokétch? Yup, you do. You can have this too, then. You deserve it for all your hard work, &lt;player&gt;. The &lt;sc&gt;Dowsing Machine&lt;/sc&gt; is something you should touch often. It will tell you if there is an item on the ground that you can't see. I think there's something here, even. You should try it out. OK, let's keep working on our Pokédexes. Professor Rowan is counting on us!&quot;''<br /> <br /> =====Veilstone City=====<br /> * Before earning the Cobble Badge<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;, are you going to take the Gym challenge? Gee, you keep getting tougher and tougher, don't you? Me? Well, I went shopping at the department store, and... I mean, well, of course I've been working on my Pokédex, but...&quot;'' <br /> :''&quot;... So, uh, &lt;player&gt;. Good luck on your Gym challenge.&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After earning the Cobble Badge<br /> :''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! Please, can you help me? Some Team Galactic goons took my Pokédex away from me. I need your help to get it back. I'll be waiting in front of the warehouses. Please come!&quot;<br /> <br /> * In front of the warehouses<br /> :''&quot;Hi, &lt;player&gt;! Please, can you help me? Do you remember Team Galactic? Those horrible people? They tried to steal Prof. Rowan's research results in Jubilife, remember? I ran into them, and they took away my Pokédex. Please, I need your help. Team up and battle with me!&quot;''<br /> :'''No''': ''&quot;I'll be waiting. Please get ready and come quickly.&quot;''<br /> :'''Yes''': ''&quot;You and your Pokémon together with me and my Pokémon... United like this, our dream team has no chance of losing! I'm not letting those bad people get away with their dirty deeds!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After battle with Team Galactic Grunts<br /> :''&quot;What's going on? Why is Team Galactic out in the streets like they own the place? &lt;player&gt;, thank you, sincerely. I would've been lost without my Pokédex. It's indispensable for helping Prof. Rowan with his studies. So, &lt;player&gt;, what are you going to do now? I'm thinking of going to the Pokémon Mansion on Route 212. I hear they show rare Pokémon to visitors there.&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;Oh...It's that funny man from Jubilife...&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;I'm terribly sorry. Team Galactic took my Pokédex, so I was very irritated... I just blurted it out... ...I should be going now. Be wary of Team Galactic.&quot;''<br /> <br /> =====Canalave Library===== <br /> :''&quot;You can count on me! It will help with my Pokédex, too. &lt;player&gt;, you'll go too, won't you?&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;Will do!&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Outside Canalave Library, after explosion in Lake Valor<br /> :''&quot;...&lt;player&gt;, you'll be OK, no matter what, right?&quot;''<br /> <br /> :*If talked to<br /> ::''&quot;We're going off to Lake Verity first... Don't do anything rash if something does happen.&quot;''<br /> <br /> =====Lake Verity=====<br /> * Before battle with Commander Mars (If talked to)<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;! It's T-Team Galactic! They're taking the Pokémon of the lake... I... I couldn't beat this person...&quot;''<br /> <br /> * After battle with Commander Mars (If talked to)<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;, what is Team Galactic up to? Are the abducted Pokémon of the lakes going to be OK?&quot;''<br /> <br /> =====The [[Villa]]=====<br /> * After buying [[Villa decoration|Small Sofa]]<br /> :''&quot;Wow, &lt;player&gt;, this sofa is so sumptuous! You know, I think we have similar tastes, &lt;player&gt;.&quot;''<br /> <br /> * Visiting quotes (random)<br /> :''&quot;&lt;player&gt;, are you going to collect furniture now? Are you maybe the type who can't bear to use Technical Machines? The sort of person who ends up making a collection of them?&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;I had no idea that you can get a Villa as a gift. Who knows what can happen in life?&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;I'm envious of you having your own place. I have to share a bedroom with my little sister!&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;Sigh... To be with that special someone in a wonderful Villa like this... I think it's a nice dream to have.&quot;''<br /> :''&quot;You run into so many Pokémon in the Battle Zone. It's a bit much. So, &lt;player&gt;, please let me catch a little rest.&quot;''<br /> <br /> ==Artwork==<br /> {| style=&quot;margin:auto; text-align:center; {{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color}}; font-size:80%;&quot;<br /> |- <br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:100px; height:150px&quot;| [[File:Diamond Pearl Dawn.png|150px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:100px; height:150px&quot;| [[File:Dawn and Turtwig Sugimori.png|150px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:100px; height:150px&quot;| [[File:Sinnoh Underground.png|150px]]<br /> |- <br /> | Official artwork from&lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond and Pearl}}<br /> | Signed artwork by&lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Ken Sugimori}}<br /> | {{color2|000|Underground}} with {{color2|000|Lucas (game)|Lucas}}<br /> |- <br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:100px; height:150px&quot;| [[File:Pt Wifi Plaza.png|150px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:100px; height:150px&quot;| [[File:Seabreak path.png|150px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:100px; height:150px&quot;| [[File:Sinnoh Battle Frontier Brain artwork.png|150px]]<br /> |- <br /> | {{color2|000|Wi-Fi Plaza}} artwork<br /> | Discovering {{pcolor|Shaymin|000}} with {{color2|000|Lucas (game)|Lucas}} and {{color2|000|Professor Oak}}<br /> | {{color2|000|Battle Frontier (Generation IV)|Battle Frontier}} artwork<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ===Sprites===<br /> {| style=&quot;margin:auto; text-align:center; {{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color}}; font-size:80%;&quot;<br /> |- <br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:80px&quot;| [[File:Spr DP Dawn.png]]<br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:80px&quot;| [[File:Spr Pt Dawn.png]]<br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:80px&quot;| [[File:Dawnwalkdown.png]]<br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:80px&quot;| [[File:DawnPtwalkdown.png]]<br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:80px&quot;| [[File:DawnContestwalkdown.png]]<br /> |- <br /> | Sprite from &lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond and Pearl}}<br /> | Sprite from &lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Pokémon Platinum Version|Platinum}}<br /> | Overworld sprite from &lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond and Pearl}}<br /> | Overworld sprite from &lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Pokémon Platinum Version|Platinum}}<br /> | Overworld {{color2|000|Pokémon Super Contest|Super Contest}} sprite from&lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Generation IV}}<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:80px&quot;| [[File:DawnChallenge.png]]<br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:80px&quot;| [[File:DP Dawn Back.png]]<br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:80px&quot;| [[File:Pt Dawn Back.png]]<br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:80px&quot;| [[File:DP Dawn intro.png]]<br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{pearl color dark}}; background: #{{pearl color light}}; width:80px&quot;| [[File:Pt Dawn Intro.png]]<br /> |- <br /> | VS sprite from &lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Pokémon Platinum Version|Platinum}}<br /> | Back sprite from &lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond and Pearl}}<br /> | Back sprite from &lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Pokémon Platinum Version|Platinum}}<br /> | Intro sprite from &lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond and Pearl}}<br /> | Intro sprite from &lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Pokémon Platinum Version|Platinum}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Optional names==<br /> {| style=&quot;float:left; background: #{{pearl color light}}; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 3px solid #{{pearl color}}&quot;<br /> |- style=&quot;text-align:center&quot;<br /> ! Game<br /> ! Japanese<br /> ! English<br /> ! French<br /> ! German<br /> ! Italian<br /> ! Spanish<br /> ! Korean<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFF;&quot;<br /> |Diamond&lt;br&gt;Pearl&lt;br&gt;Platinum<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;ダイヤ ''Dia''<br /> パール ''Pearl''<br /> キョウコ ''Kyōko''<br /> キヨミ ''Kiyomi''<br /> サトコ ''Satoko''<br /> ジュンコ ''Junko''<br /> セツコ ''Setsuko''<br /> チナミ ''Chinami''<br /> チホ ''Chiho''<br /> ノリコ ''Noriko''<br /> ヒサエ ''Hisae''<br /> マキコ ''Makiko''<br /> マミナ ''Mamina''<br /> ミキコ ''Mikiko''<br /> ミスズ ''Misuzu''<br /> ミチコ ''Michiko''<br /> モモコ ''Momoko''<br /> ユキコ ''Yukiko''<br /> リエ ''Rie''&lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;Diamond<br /> Pearl<br /> Karla<br /> Britney<br /> Kelli<br /> Nina<br /> Heidi<br /> Miriam<br /> Teresa<br /> Aubrey<br /> Kelly<br /> Naomi<br /> Abby<br /> Denise<br /> Tamara<br /> Linda<br /> Faith<br /> Mari<br /> Maggie&lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;Diamant<br /> Perle<br /> Audrey<br /> Carmen<br /> Caro<br /> Claire<br /> Coralie<br /> Edith<br /> Flo<br /> Hélène<br /> Joanna<br /> Linda<br /> Lucie<br /> Marion<br /> Nadia<br /> Noémie<br /> Sayaka<br /> Sophie<br /> Yuki&lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;Diamant<br /> Perl<br /> Andrea<br /> Antje<br /> Birgit<br /> Daniela<br /> Diana<br /> Elena<br /> Eva<br /> Jamie<br /> Linda<br /> Mandy<br /> Pia<br /> Sara<br /> Sigrun<br /> Silke<br /> Sina<br /> Susi<br /> Ute&lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;Diaman<br /> Perl<br /> Amanda<br /> Cinzia<br /> Claudia<br /> Elisa<br /> Gaia<br /> Ilaria<br /> Isotta<br /> Ivana<br /> Letizia<br /> Linda<br /> Lorenza<br /> Luisa<br /> Monia<br /> Paola<br /> Sara<br /> Viviana<br /> Wilma&lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;Diamant<br /> Perla<br /> Aiora<br /> Aria<br /> Cira<br /> Claudia<br /> Izarbe<br /> María<br /> Mariau<br /> Matilde<br /> Mena<br /> Miriam<br /> Mirta<br /> Nayra<br /> Nuria<br /> Rita<br /> Salia<br /> Susa<br /> Teresa&lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;다이아몬드 ''Diamond''<br /> 펄 ''Pearl''<br /> 꽃님 ''Kkotnim''<br /> 나영 ''Nayeong''<br /> 나정 ''Najeong''<br /> 링링 ''Ringring''<br /> 미영 ''Miyeong''<br /> 사희 ''Sahyi''<br /> 서연 ''Seoyeon''<br /> 설아 ''Seola''<br /> 아라 ''Ara''<br /> 유경 ''Yugyeong''<br /> 윤혜 ''Yunhye''<br /> 은영 ''Eun'yeong''<br /> 인희 ''Inhyi''<br /> 주애 ''Juae''<br /> 지나 ''Jina''<br /> 태희 ''Taehyi''<br /> 해나 ''Haena''&lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |}{{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Counterparts==<br /> ===In the anime===<br /> [[File:Dawn anime.png|thumb|200px|right|Dawn's anime counterpart]]<br /> <br /> {{main|Dawn (anime)}}<br /> Like most of the other [[player character]]s, Dawn has an anime counterpart who shares her name. She is a former traveling partner of [[Ash Ketchum]] and a [[Pokémon Coordinator]].<br /> <br /> ===In the manga===<br /> Dawn also has two {{pkmn|manga}} counterparts: {{adv|Platinum|Platinum Berlitz}} from the [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga, and [[Mitsumi]] from the [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure!]] manga.<br /> <br /> ==In the TCG==<br /> This listing is of cards mentioning or featuring Dawn or her Pokémon in the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]].<br /> <br /> {{cardlist/header|Related cards|Supporter|char=yes}}<br /> {{cardlist/entry|cardname={{TCG ID|Majestic Dawn|Mom's Kindness|83}}|type=Supporter|enset=Majestic Dawn|enrarity=Uncommon|ennum=83/100|jpsetlink=Entry Pack '08|jpset=Torterra/Infernape/Empoleon Half Deck|jpsetlink2=Giratina vs Dialga Deck Kit|jpset2=Giratina/Dialga Half Deck|jpnum2=013/014|jpsetlink3=Gift Box DPt|jpset3=Piplup/Pikachu Half Deck|jpnum3=015/015|jpset4=Arceus LV.X Deck: Grass &amp; Fire|jpnum4=017/017|jpset5=Arceus LV.X Deck: Lightning &amp; Psychic|jpnum5=017/017}}<br /> {{cardlist/footer|Supporter}}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> * In both English and Japanese, Dawn shares her name with an [[evolutionary stone]]. However, it is not the same stone: her Japanese name is the same as the name of the Shiny Stone, not the Dawn Stone.<br /> * Dawn is 4'6&quot; (1.40 m) tall and weighs 75 lbs (34 kg).<br /> * The majority of her Japanese default names are shared with {{ga|Leaf}} and {{ga|Lyra}}. She also shares all of {{ga|Kris}}'s alternate Japanese names.<br /> * She shares her Chinese name with {{ga|Wally}}.<br /> <br /> ==Names==<br /> {| style=&quot;float:left; background: #{{pearl color light}}; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 3px solid #{{pearl color}}&quot;<br /> |- style=&quot;text-align:center&quot;<br /> ! Language<br /> ! Name<br /> ! Reference to<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFF;&quot;<br /> | Japanese<br /> | ヒカリ ''Hikari''<br /> | From 光/ひかり ''hikari'', light or shine.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFF;&quot;<br /> | English<br /> | Dawn<br /> | Probably a reference to ''Hikari''; dawn is the day's first light.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFF;&quot;<br /> | French<br /> | Aurore<br /> | From ''aurore'', dawn.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFF;&quot;<br /> | German<br /> | Lucia<br /> | From Latin ''lux'', light.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFF;&quot;<br /> | Italian<br /> | Lucinda<br /> | From ''luce'', light.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFF;&quot;<br /> | Spanish<br /> | Maya<br /> | Maya can be a reference to the {{wp|Maya civilization}}, who worshiped the sun.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFF;&quot;<br /> | Korean<br /> | 빛나 ''Bit'na''<br /> | From the Japanese name; means &quot;light&quot;, &quot;gleam&quot;, &quot;glow&quot;. Also, {{tt|빛|bit}} is a native Korean word which is a synonym for {{tt|光/광 |gwang}}<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFF;&quot;<br /> | Chinese (Taiwan)<br /> | 小光 ''Xiǎo Guāng''<br /> | From the Japanese name, {{tt|光/ひかり|hikari}}. Means &quot;{{tt|young|小, xiǎo}} {{tt|light|光, guāng}}&quot;.<br /> |}{{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Related articles==<br /> * [[Dawn (anime)]]<br /> <br /> {{Capture tutor}}<br /> {{Player characters}}<br /> {{NPC|pearl|sinnoh=yes}}&lt;br&gt;<br /> {{Project CharacterDex notice}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Diamond and Pearl characters]]<br /> [[Category:Platinum characters]]<br /> <br /> [[de:Lucia (Spielcharakter)]]<br /> [[es:Maya (personaje)]]<br /> [[fr:Aurore (jeux)]]<br /> [[it:Lucinda]]<br /> [[pl:Dawn]]<br /> [[pt:Dawn]]</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Prison_Bottle&diff=2301753 2015-06-28T19:25:19Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: /* Obtaining the Prison Bottle */</p> <hr /> <div>== Obtaining the Prison Bottle ==<br /> <br /> I personally have Hoopa and have tried many different ways to get the Prison Bottle, but to no avail. I have all the recent software, so there must have been a patch that prevents the Hoopa event from happening. Either that, or the web-injected Hoopa doesn't trigger the event. [[User:Wafflezwithsyrup|Wafflezwithsyrup]] ([[User talk:Wafflezwithsyrup|talk]]) 12:24, 25 March 2015 (UTC)<br /> :It probably has to have the [[fateful encounter]] flag set, like the [[Gracidea]]. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 19:47, 25 March 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I got it just fine. My Hoopa was from Power Saves, and it's OT is set to &quot;AR&quot; (I assume this stands for &quot;Action Replay&quot;). I'm a bit peeved that this isn't a *true* alternate form - Hoopa reverts itself to its default form when you deposit it in the PC. I have yet to sets if the whole &quot;three days thing&quot; literally means that after 72 hours it reverts as well. Kinda disappointed to be honest... [[User:Ulithium Dragon|Ulithium Dragon]] ([[User talk:Ulithium Dragon|talk]]) 19:25, 28 June 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Prison Bottle Has Been Officially Revealed ==<br /> <br /> The &quot;Prison Bottle&quot; page and Hoopa's page on this site both say that the Prison Bottle has not yet been officially revealed. Actually, the &quot;Traveler&quot; character in Movie 18 (Hoopa and the Clash of Ages) uses the Prison Bottle. Also, Barza explains what it is to Ash and his friends.<br /> [[User:Hoopa64|Hoopa64]] ([[User talk:Hoopa64|talk]]) 16:43, 19 April 2015 (UTC)<br /> :Unless it is officially obtainable in-game or through an event, it is not released. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 17:26, 19 April 2015 (UTC)</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Ulithium_Dragon&diff=2219567 2014-12-18T23:08:50Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: Created page with &quot;Long timer reader, newer-ish poster/editor. My site: http://ulithiumdragon.webs.com/&quot;</p> <hr /> <div>Long timer reader, newer-ish poster/editor.<br /> <br /> My site: http://ulithiumdragon.webs.com/</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gastro_Acid_(move)&diff=2219565 2014-12-18T23:07:47Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: /* Works on Primal Kyogre/Groudon/Mega Rayquaza&#039;s Abilities */</p> <hr /> <div>==Effect on Steel-type==<br /> <br /> Should we mentioned Gastro Acid also work on Steel-type despite as a Poison-type move? in my test, a wild {{p|Weepinbell}} can cancel my {{p|Magnezone}} 's ability.[[User:chungkingpun|chungkingpun]] 07:20, 9 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Though it's long since this question was posed, since it wasn't answered... no. Sand-Attack works on Flying-types and Pokémon with Levitate. Seems the only immunity preserved for status moves is Ground to Electric. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 04:30, 19 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> :: I've noted this on [[Damage modification]], as most status moves are exempt from type matchups altogether; Thunder Wave has always been one of the exceptions. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]] 19:16, 27 April 2011 (UTC)''<br /> <br /> == Battle ==<br /> <br /> Is it known for sure whether or not this move can hit your partner in a double or triple battle? '''[[User:LimeGreenCharizard|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#008000;&quot;&gt;LimeGreen&lt;/span&gt;]]''[[User talk:LimeGreenCharizard|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF8C00;&quot;&gt;Charizard&lt;/span&gt;]]'''''[[Special:Contributions/LimeGreenCharizard|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#00BFFF;&quot;&gt;♂&lt;/span&gt;]] 12:33, 5 November 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Slow Start? ==<br /> <br /> :''&quot;Furthermore, Gastro Acid does not negate Abilities that have an immediate effect at the start of the battle, such as {{a|Drizzle}}, because the Ability will activate before Gastro Acid can even be used.&quot;''<br /> <br /> Well, {{a|Slow Start}} _is_ activated at the very beginning, yet it's still undone by Gastro Acid. --[[User:Det|Det]] ([[User talk:Det|talk]]) 11:52, 2 June 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Works on Primal Kyogre/Groudon/Mega Rayquaza's Abilities ==<br /> <br /> Oddly enough this move even seems to work on the Mega/Primal Evolutions of the Hoenn Legendary Trio in Pokemon Omega Ruby and Pokemon Alpha Sapphire (on the abilities Primordial Sea, Desolate Land, and Delta Stream, respectively). After these abilities are suppressed, the special weather conditions are immediately removed. I gotta say, while I was very surprised that it worked, it made catching Primal Kyogre SO much easier... --[[User:Ulithium Dragon|Ulithium Dragon]] ([[User talk:Ulithium Dragon|talk]]) 22:55, 18 December 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I feel like the &quot;Trivia&quot; section should be amended to point out that this move works on legendary Pokemon's weather effect moves (I just tested and it works on the abilities from the X and Y pokemon (I don't feel like trying to spell THOSE names)), but I wanted to ask other people's thoughts first, since I've noticed the staff on here can be pretty fierce in making sure no non-relevant information gets put on the pages... --[[User:Ulithium Dragon|Ulithium Dragon]] ([[User talk:Ulithium Dragon|talk]]) 23:07, 18 December 2014 (UTC)</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Gastro_Acid_(move)&diff=2219564 2014-12-18T23:03:57Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: Added tag for Pokemon Omega Ruby and Pokemon Alpha Sapphire under the correct description heading.</p> <hr /> <div>{{bad picture|2=Should be replaced with Generation VI images}}<br /> {{MoveInfobox|<br /> n=380 |<br /> name=Gastro Acid |<br /> jname=いえき |<br /> jtrans=Gastric Juice |<br /> jtranslit=Ieki|<br /> gameimage=Gastro Acid V.png |<br /> type=Poison |<br /> damagecategory=Status |<br /> basepp=10 |<br /> maxpp=16 |<br /> power=— |<br /> accuracy=100 |<br /> bdesc=Cancels the foe's ability. |<br /> gen=IV |<br /> category=Beauty |<br /> appealsc=2 |<br /> scdesc=Prevents the Voltage from going up in the same turn. |<br /> pokefordex=Gastro%20Acid |<br /> touches=no |<br /> protect=yes |<br /> magiccoat=yes |<br /> snatch=no |<br /> brightpowder=yes |<br /> kingsrock=no |<br /> flag7=no |<br /> flag8=no |<br /> sound=no |<br /> mtpt=yes|<br /> mths=yes|<br /> mtb2w2=yes|<br /> na=no|<br /> target=anyadjacent |<br /> footnotes= }}<br /> '''Gastro Acid''' (Japanese: '''いえき''' ''Gastric Juice'') is a non-damaging {{type|Poison}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation IV]].<br /> <br /> ==Effect==<br /> Gastro Acid suppresses the target's [[Ability]] while it remains in battle. Gastro Acid does not affect {{a|Multitype}} or {{a|Stance Change}}. {{a|Pickup}} and {{a|Honey Gather}} can still find an item after the battle even if suppressed. Despite being a {{type|Poison}} move, Gastro Acid affects {{type|Steel}} Pokémon.<br /> <br /> ==Description==<br /> {{movedesc|Poison}}<br /> {{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|DPPt}}{{gameabbrev3|HGSS}}|The user hurls up its stomach acids on the foe. The fluid eliminates the effect of the foe’s ability.}}<br /> {{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|BWB2W2}}&lt;br&gt;{{gameabbrev3|XY}}{{gameabbrev3|ORAS}}|The user hurls up its stomach acids on the target. The fluid eliminates the effect of the target's Ability.}}<br /> {{movedescentry|PMD{{color2|{{md time color}}|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|T}}{{color2|{{md darkness color}}|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|D}}{{color2|{{md sky color}}|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|S}}|Afflicts the targeted enemy with a Gastro Acid status condition. A Pokémon with the Gastro Acid status loses the benefit of its ability.}}<br /> |}<br /> |}{{left clear}}<br /> <br /> ==Learnset==<br /> ===By [[Level|leveling up]]===<br /> {{Moveheader/Level|Poison|4}}<br /> {{Moveentry/Level4|023|Ekans|1|Poison|Poison|33|36|36}}<br /> {{Moveentry/Level4|024|Arbok|1|Poison|Poison|42|44|44}}<br /> {{Moveentry/Level4|069|Bellsprout|2|Grass|Poison|35|35|35}}<br /> {{Moveentry/Level4|070|Weepinbell|2|Grass|Poison|35|35|35}}<br /> {{Moveentry/Level4|213|Shuckle|2|Bug|Rock|40|31|B2W2=27|PtHGSS=35|27}}<br /> {{Moveentry/Level4|316|Gulpin|1|Poison|Poison|44|49|49}}<br /> {{Moveentry/Level4|317|Swalot|1|Poison|Poison|52|59|59}}<br /> {{Moveentry/Level4|336|Seviper|1|Poison|Poison|no|no|B2W2=34|34}}<br /> {{Moveentry/Level4|345|Lileep|2|Rock|Grass|36|36|36}}<br /> {{Moveentry/Level4|346|Cradily|2|Rock|Grass|46|46|46}}<br /> {{Moveentry/Level4|495|Snivy|1|Grass|Grass|no|40|40}}<br /> {{Moveentry/Level4|496|Servine|1|Grass|Grass|no|48|48}}<br /> {{Moveentry/Level4|497|Serperior|1|Grass|Grass|no|56|56}}<br /> {{Moveentry/Level4|595|Joltik|2|Bug|Electric|no|23|23}}<br /> {{Moveentry/Level4|596|Galvantula|2|Bug|Electric|no|23|23}}<br /> {{Moveentry/Level4|603|Eelektrik|1|Electric|Electric|no|64|64}}<br /> {{Moveentry/Level4|604|Eelektross|1|Electric|Electric|no|no|--}}<br /> {{Movefooter|Poison|4}}<br /> <br /> ===By {{pkmn|breeding}}===<br /> {{Moveheader/Breed|Poison|5}}<br /> {{Moveentry/Breed5|590|Foongus|2|Grass|Poison|{{MSP|069|Bellsprout}}{{MSP|070|Weepinbell}}{{MSP|495|Snivy}}{{MSP|496|Servine}}{{MSP|497|Serperior}}|{{MSP|069|Bellsprout}}{{MSP|070|Weepinbell}}{{MSP|495|Snivy}}{{MSP|496|Servine}}{{MSP|497|Serperior}}}}<br /> {{Movefooter|Poison|5}}<br /> <br /> ===By [[Move Tutor]]===<br /> {{Moveheader/tutor|Poison|3}}<br /> {{Moveheader/tutor/4|no|yes|yes}}<br /> {{Moveheader/tutor/5|no|yes}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|023|Ekans|1|Poison|Poison|X|X|X|X|X|yes|yes|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|024|Arbok|1|Poison|Poison|X|X|X|X|X|yes|yes|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|043|Oddish|2|Grass|Poison|X|X|X|X|X|yes|yes|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|044|Gloom|2|Grass|Poison|X|X|X|X|X|yes|yes|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|045|Vileplume|2|Grass|Poison|X|X|X|X|X|yes|yes|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|069|Bellsprout|2|Grass|Poison|X|X|X|X|X|yes|yes|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|070|Weepinbell|2|Grass|Poison|X|X|X|X|X|yes|yes|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|071|Victreebel|2|Grass|Poison|X|X|X|X|X|yes|yes|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|151|Mew|1|Psychic|Psychic|X|X|X|X|X|yes|yes|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|182|Bellossom|1|Grass|Grass|X|X|X|X|X|yes|yes|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|213|Shuckle|2|Bug|Rock|X|X|X|X|X|yes|yes|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|316|Gulpin|1|Poison|Poison|X|X|X|X|X|yes|yes|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|317|Swalot|1|Poison|Poison|X|X|X|X|X|yes|yes|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|336|Seviper|1|Poison|Poison|X|X|X|X|X|no|no|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|345|Lileep|2|Rock|Grass|X|X|X|X|X|yes|yes|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|346|Cradily|2|Rock|Grass|X|X|X|X|X|yes|yes|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|455|Carnivine|1|Grass|Grass|X|X|X|X|X|yes|yes|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|495|Snivy|1|Grass|Grass|X|X|X|X|X|no|no|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|496|Servine|1|Grass|Grass|X|X|X|X|X|no|no|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|497|Serperior|1|Grass|Grass|X|X|X|X|X|no|no|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|536|Palpitoad|2|Water|Ground|X|X|X|X|X|no|no|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|537|Seismitoad|2|Water|Ground|X|X|X|X|X|no|no|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|590|Foongus|2|Grass|Poison|X|X|X|X|X|no|no|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|591|Amoonguss|2|Grass|Poison|X|X|X|X|X|no|no|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|595|Joltik|2|Bug|Electric|X|X|X|X|X|no|no|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|596|Galvantula|2|Bug|Electric|X|X|X|X|X|no|no|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|603|Eelektrik|1|Electric|Electric|X|X|X|X|X|no|no|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|604|Eelektross|1|Electric|Electric|X|X|X|X|X|no|no|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|616|Shelmet|1|Bug|Bug|X|X|X|X|X|no|no|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|617|Accelgor|1|Bug|Bug|X|X|X|X|X|no|no|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Moveentry/tutor|631|Heatmor|1|Fire|Fire|X|X|X|X|X|no|no|X|B2W2=yes|X}}<br /> {{Movefooter/tutor|Poison|3}}<br /> <br /> ===Special move===<br /> ====[[Generation V]]====<br /> {{Learnlistspecial|Poison}}<br /> {{Moveentryspecial|455|Carnivine|1|Grass|Grass|{{pkmn|Dream World}} - {{dwa|Dream Park}}}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ==In the manga==<br /> ===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===<br /> {{movemanga|type=Poison|exp=yes|gen=The user hurls gastric acid at the foe and prevents them from using its Ability.|image1=Sebastian Weepinbell Gastro Acid Adventures.png|image1p=Weepinbell}}<br /> {{movep|type=Poison|ms=070|pkmn=Weepinbell|method=Weepinbell jumps into the air and fires a stream of sticky liquid from its mouth at the opponent. The substance cancels the opponent's Ability even if it is washed off.}}<br /> {{movebtmManga|type=Poison|user=Sebastian (Adventures)|user1=Sebastian's Weepinbell|startcode=PS392|startname=Well Met, Weepinbell|notes=Debut}}<br /> <br /> ===In the Be the Best! Pokémon B+W manga===<br /> {{movemanga|type=poison|exp=yes|gen=The foe's Ability is negated when it is hit from this move.|image1=Monta Serperior Gastro Acid.png|image1p=Serperior}}<br /> {{movep|type=poison|ms=497|pkmn=Serperior|method=Serperior spits out pieces of acid which prevents the opponent from activating its Ability.}}<br /> {{movebtmManga|type=poison|user=Monta's Serperior|startcode=PBW8|notes=Debut}}<br /> <br /> ==In other generations==<br /> {{movegen|<br /> type=poison|<br /> genIV=Gastro Acid IV|<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> * Gastro Acid is the only Poison-type Beauty move.<br /> <br /> ==In other languages==<br /> {{Langtable|color={{poison color}}|bordercolor={{poison color light}}<br /> |zh_cmn=胃液 ''{{tt|Wèiyè|Gastric Juice}}''<br /> |fr=Suc Digestif<br /> |de=Magensäfte<br /> |el=Γαστρικό Οξύ<br /> |it=Gastroacido<br /> |ko=위액 ''Wiaek''<br /> |pt_br= Ácido Gástrico<br /> |es=Bilis}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> {{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}<br /> <br /> [[de:Magensäfte]]<br /> [[fr:Suc Digestif]]<br /> [[it:Gastroacido (mossa)]]<br /> [[ja:いえき]]<br /> [[pl:Gastro Acid]]<br /> [[pt:Gastro Acid]]<br /> [[zh:胃液（技能）]]</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gastro_Acid_(move)&diff=2219563 2014-12-18T22:55:56Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: /* Works on Primal Kyogre/Groudon/Mega Rayquaza&#039;s Abilities */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>==Effect on Steel-type==<br /> <br /> Should we mentioned Gastro Acid also work on Steel-type despite as a Poison-type move? in my test, a wild {{p|Weepinbell}} can cancel my {{p|Magnezone}} 's ability.[[User:chungkingpun|chungkingpun]] 07:20, 9 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Though it's long since this question was posed, since it wasn't answered... no. Sand-Attack works on Flying-types and Pokémon with Levitate. Seems the only immunity preserved for status moves is Ground to Electric. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 04:30, 19 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> :: I've noted this on [[Damage modification]], as most status moves are exempt from type matchups altogether; Thunder Wave has always been one of the exceptions. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]] 19:16, 27 April 2011 (UTC)''<br /> <br /> == Battle ==<br /> <br /> Is it known for sure whether or not this move can hit your partner in a double or triple battle? '''[[User:LimeGreenCharizard|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#008000;&quot;&gt;LimeGreen&lt;/span&gt;]]''[[User talk:LimeGreenCharizard|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF8C00;&quot;&gt;Charizard&lt;/span&gt;]]'''''[[Special:Contributions/LimeGreenCharizard|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#00BFFF;&quot;&gt;♂&lt;/span&gt;]] 12:33, 5 November 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Slow Start? ==<br /> <br /> :''&quot;Furthermore, Gastro Acid does not negate Abilities that have an immediate effect at the start of the battle, such as {{a|Drizzle}}, because the Ability will activate before Gastro Acid can even be used.&quot;''<br /> <br /> Well, {{a|Slow Start}} _is_ activated at the very beginning, yet it's still undone by Gastro Acid. --[[User:Det|Det]] ([[User talk:Det|talk]]) 11:52, 2 June 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Works on Primal Kyogre/Groudon/Mega Rayquaza's Abilities ==<br /> <br /> Oddly enough this move even seems to work on the Mega/Primal Evolutions of the Hoenn Legendary Trio in Pokemon Omega Ruby and Pokemon Alpha Sapphire (on the abilities Primordial Sea, Desolate Land, and Delta Stream, respectively). After these abilities are suppressed, the special weather conditions are immediately removed. I gotta say, while I was very surprised that it worked, it made catching Primal Kyogre SO much easier... --[[User:Ulithium Dragon|Ulithium Dragon]] ([[User talk:Ulithium Dragon|talk]]) 22:55, 18 December 2014 (UTC)</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tynamo_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=2214746 2014-12-11T20:23:58Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: </p> <hr /> <div>== Horrible Design For Gen VI Minigames ==<br /> I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but Tynamo's design for both Pokemon Amie and Super Training is just DREADFUL! Petting him/her in Pokemon Amie is limited to two super tiny regions on his/her face which are too small to avoid stroking both at once, making to take twice as long, and the rest of his/her body will shock your &quot;hand&quot; if you so much as brush it, making your petting start over. In adition, his/her feeding point is not as the mouth, but to the right of it and fixed to a pinpoint location so small that it's extremely hard to find. Also, in the Head It minigame he/she does a dart around and fly up happy animation every ten balls in a row, making it hard to not missjudge the timing. Furthermore, in Super Training he/she has to special ball throw type, and charge shots take at least five second... --[[User:Ulithium Dragon|Ulithium Dragon]] ([[User talk:Ulithium Dragon|talk]]) 20:23, 11 December 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> isn't tynamo the lightest pokemon intoduced in the fifth generation? --[[User:Funicode|Funicode]] 16:24, 21 June 2011 (UTC)<br /> :Yes it is, but trivia isn't allowed right now. I suppose maybe it can be included in some way in the biology section. ♣♣ ''[[User:Focus58|&lt;font color=&quot;Red&quot;&gt;Ƒǿҫὑṩ&lt;/font&gt;]] [[User talk:Focus58|&lt;font color=&quot;olive&quot;&gt;❺❽&lt;/font&gt;]]'' ♣♣ 16:31, 21 June 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Real World Influence ==<br /> <br /> Aside from those already listed, this thing seems to have a striking resemblance to Haikouichthys -- the possible early ancestor of all vertebrates. Its the waving line. Haikouichthys had a probably visible spine-like column. Tynamo seems to have a waving line in the exact same area. [[User:PowerPlantRaichu|PowerPlantRaichu]] 23:56, 12 November 2011 (UTC)<br /> :Seems likely, for the reasons provided. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 03:40, 13 November 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Trivia ==<br /> <br /> Looking at the trivia, how was the bit about Tynamo only being able to damagie the Golett family by use of Struggle trivia worthy? ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|&lt;span style=&quot;color:teal&quot;&gt;Frozen&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|&lt;span style=&quot;color:green&quot;&gt;Fennec&lt;/span&gt;]]'' 05:00, 2 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Cause it is the only way Tynamo can damage the Golett family. If it could learn a move that is not normal or electric, then it wouldn't be there.--[[User:Force Fire|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#424B50&quot;&gt;'''F'''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#848A8D&quot;&gt;orce&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Force Fire|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E3CED0&quot;&gt;'''F'''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#EDDFE0&quot;&gt;ire&lt;/span&gt;]] 05:08, 2 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Tynamo cannot learn Charge Beam by TM? ==<br /> <br /> THat's what the article says. What if you used the Move Deleter for it to forget CHarge Beam? If you did that, could you use the TM on it? [[User:Pikachu Bros.|&lt;span style=&quot;color:lightblue&quot;&gt;Pikachu Bros.&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;small&gt;([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/span&gt;]])&lt;/small&gt; 19:48, 23 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Likely not. The TM lists all TMs it can use, even for moves it learns via level-up (such as {{p|Leavanny}} and {{m|Struggle Bug}}). [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 20:23, 23 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::No, in that case it reads &quot;UNABLE!&quot; instead of &quot;LEARNED&quot;. [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 13:30, 24 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::This was fixed in Gen VI, Tynamo can now learn TM57 (Charge Beam) and TM73 (Thunder Wave). [[User:Richi3f|Richi3f]] ([[User talk:Richi3f|talk]]) 06:52, 29 December 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == colour ==<br /> <br /> tynamo isn't white. It's a very light blue. [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 14:33, 7 August 2013 (UTC)<br /> :The color in the infobox is what the Pokedex classifies it as. --[[User:Funktastic~!|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009900&quot;&gt;'''It's'''&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color:#CC66FF&quot;&gt;'''Funktastic~!'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#99CCFF&quot;&gt;''話してください''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;]] 15:23, 7 August 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::&quot;Beartic is a very light blue&quot; beartic is listed as white in the pokedex. And if we are going by the pokedex colours then I guess bronzong is green [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 19:30, 7 August 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::EDIT I mean it is called white in the physiology section. [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 19:48, 7 August 2013 (UTC)</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_clothing_in_Pok%C3%A9mon_X_and_Y&diff=2108396 2014-04-21T16:27:59Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: /* Clothing Tag color and effect on fashion style (not style) */</p> <hr /> <div>==Sorting==<br /> What kind of sorting should we use to list the clothes? Alphabetical or the one used ingame when the alphabetical one is turned off? Or any other special order? --[[User:Sekuiya|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana;color:#619DD9;&quot;&gt;Sekuiya&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Sekuiya|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7B1B;&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;]] 16:37, 25 October 2013 (UTC)<br /> :And while we're at it, should we separate male clothes from females one? I think mixing them all can be rather confusing. --[[User:Sekuiya|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana;color:#619DD9;&quot;&gt;Sekuiya&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Sekuiya|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7B1B;&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;]] 16:40, 25 October 2013 (UTC)<br /> Maybe there should be a row to tell which gender can buy the clothes? And I would think sorting items by style first found; default items would be first, then items of the same style bought, then different style items found earliest. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 16:58, 25 October 2013 (UTC)<br /> :But there's items from the same type with different styles. Wouldn't that get a little confusing? Isn't it better to do it Alphabetical, less confusing, no? --[[User:Sekuiya|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana;color:#619DD9;&quot;&gt;Sekuiya&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Sekuiya|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7B1B;&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;]] 17:08, 25 October 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::That's what I meant by items of the same style. Male's start out with black Short Boots, so that would be the first item. Then all the other Short Boots found wherever they're found, then the next available style of shoe and so on and so forth. Alphabetical would work just as well, replacing the N/A's with Default. I'm assuming after sorting items alphabetically, we'd then sort same style items by location, yes? Or would price be a better-looking format? [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 17:16, 25 October 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::: Alphabetical sounds like a better way, you can even sort alphabetical ingame, which would make it a lot easier to compare lists and find clothes you're missing. In my opinion, alphabetical is the way to go. And regarding male VS female. Maybe two different sections would be better, afterall, most of their clothes are different from ours, if not all! --[[User:Sekuiya|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana;color:#619DD9;&quot;&gt;Sekuiya&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Sekuiya|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7B1B;&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;]] 17:19, 25 October 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::Surely Socks and Accessories aren't all that different, are they? Would it look too cluttered if there were two charts side-by-side? Is that even possible? [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 17:22, 25 October 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::::Dunno about socks, but regarding Accessories, they're the same only in Buttons, they don't the same Glasses we have nor Feathers. Regarding tables side by side, it would be possible but you would have to ask someone with more experience in wiki styling. --[[User:Sekuiya|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana;color:#619DD9;&quot;&gt;Sekuiya&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Sekuiya|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7B1B;&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;]] 18:02, 25 October 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Daily wares? ==<br /> <br /> Can someone confirm me that the clothes available are the same depending on the day of the week and not just completely random? --[[User:Sekuiya|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana;color:#619DD9;&quot;&gt;Sekuiya&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Sekuiya|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7B1B;&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;]] 19:59, 25 October 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Well, I decided to do a week long experiment. I'll be adding the day of the week when it shows up and then in the next week see if it repeats. I hope I can catch all days. Wish me luck! Of course, if it turns to be true then can anyone can help construct the list so feel free to do so! --[[User:Sekuiya|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana;color:#619DD9;&quot;&gt;Sekuiya&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Sekuiya|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7B1B;&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;]] 02:21, 26 October 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::&lt;del&gt;Upon comparing my current selection to the data that I'm seeing in the tables currently (some of which I put in myself a week or two ago), it would seem that it's simply random. I have certain items showing up today that I hadn't marked down for today previously, and there are other things &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; showing up today that I had indicated &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; be on Sunday. If anyone has any ideas on how we want to implement the &quot;Calendar Day&quot; column given that there doesn't seem to be full consistency, let us know. Of course, there's also the fact that an NPC early in the game mentions that the selection increases or changes as you beat more gyms. I had put in some of this info with only about half of the gyms done. At this point, I've beaten the Elite Four. Perhaps this also has something to do with the differences, but, again, that leaves us with an apparent lack of consistency. I'll leave things be for now, but we should probably reconsider the &quot;Calendar Day&quot; column. --[[User:Amimizunofan22|Amimizunofan22]] ([[User talk:Amimizunofan22|talk]]) 05:25, 11 November 2013 (UTC)&lt;/del&gt;<br /> ::It turns out that I forgot to put my 3DS back an hour for Daylight Savings, so what I thought was 11:30 on a Sunday was really 12:30 on a Monday. So, it seems that everything checks out for now. I'm going to do my own week now that I've beaten all the gyms and the Elite Four, just in case that random NPC in Santalune's boutique was right about selection changing based on gyms beaten. --[[User:Amimizunofan22|Amimizunofan22]] ([[User talk:Amimizunofan22|talk]]) 06:41, 11 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Style ==<br /> <br /> Should we state the style a cloth provides? I mean, the &quot;tags&quot; of the clothes have different patterns which, I'm guessing, is the style a certain cloth provides ranging from that bluish one, to the orange one, to the black and white one, and maxing with rainbow like one. If we add that to the list let me suggest some names. Bluish: Casual, Orange: Cool, Black: Fancy, Rainbow: Special. What do you think? Open to suggestions! --[[User:Sekuiya|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana;color:#619DD9;&quot;&gt;Sekuiya&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Sekuiya|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7B1B;&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;]] 16:33, 26 October 2013 (UTC)<br /> :I might be pressing the 6 month rule, but I think that's what the tags are made of and they do have some effect, as wearing clothing with a certain tag effects the fanfare and animation played after you are done selecting your clothes.<br /> <br /> :I added tags to the tables, the tags are named after both the style of clothing, and the tags/materials the tags are made of. The blue is casual, the black/white ones appear to be leather, thus I used the term leather (you pay 180,000 for something, the tag better be leather lol). The orange/red appear to be a tropical print, and all the socks and accessories seem to have a cardboard tag. I feel bad, but I could only cover the tags from the boy's aspect and need a player who plays as a girl to fill in the tags for the girls tables. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 06:35, 11 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hair? ==<br /> <br /> I cannot for the life of me find a place that lets you cut or dye your hair. I've been to nearly every city! How come there are no locations for haircuts listed? [[User:Nokota|Nokota]] ([[User talk:Nokota|talk]]) 05:37, 30 October 2013 (UTC)<br /> :The haircut salon you're after is on the south boulevard in Lumiose City (it's called &quot;Coiffure Clips&quot;). It's mentioned under the &quot;places of interest&quot; section on Lumiose City's page, perhaps a listing of available hair colours and styles can be listed there. '''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F85888;&quot;&gt;—&lt;small&gt;★&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;[[User:Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#EE99AC;&quot;&gt;たかはりい&lt;/span&gt;]]'''&lt;sup&gt;'''[[User talk:Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F16A81;&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/span&gt;]]'''&lt;/sup&gt; 05:47, 30 October 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Just thought I'd mention... ==<br /> <br /> There is a red shirt and tie. I don't want to break the templates by accident, so could someone please edit them in?--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 23:04, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New Table Format ==<br /> <br /> So, I'd been wanting to do something like this for quite a while, but I was waiting until all the information was populated. My main idea was to modify the tables so that, instead of the textual listings of days that were in place, there could be a slightly more graphical representation of which days each item is available. Now, I'm very much a novice at wikicode, so it took me some research and site perusing to cobble all the elements of these things together. My main inspiration was the set of templates for which Pokémon are available on which routes (colored or white boxes with appropriate text to indicate presence). I did notice a couple of incorrect items (like two purses listed for the same boutique for the same day in one example), but I'm super freaking tired and just wanted to get this monster project done with. If anyone has ways of improving my table, I'm open to discussion, since, as I said before, I'm rather new to wikicode and table-building (or, in this case, modifying) with it. In any case, I hope you all like what I've done. [[User:Amimizunofan22|Amimizunofan22]] ([[User talk:Amimizunofan22|talk]]) 10:13, 22 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Clothing Tag color and effect on fashion style (not style) ==<br /> <br /> Ok, so it would seem that you need 4≥ items with a specific tag to effect the fashion of your character..I.E. the fanfare played when you are done selecting your clothing options.<br /> <br /> This is only what I know about the boy's clothing tags...so bare with me. <br /> <br /> The having 3 or more blue tag items give you the violet mirror ball sparkle pop fanfare. Having 4 or more orange tag items give you the rainbow tropical fanfare. Having 2 or more Black tag items gives you the music note and jazz fanfare. And if you wear a Rainbow tagged item like the Pangoro hat thing, you always get the Laser Light show and Swing music fanfare (I suck at telling the difference between blues, Jazz and swing sometimes so Swing might not be the right genre for the last one)<br /> <br /> From what I can tell, the Rainbow tag items have abstolute infleunce over the final results for the fanfare. This is then followed by Black tag items, Red Tag and then blue tag items.<br /> <br /> Its going be a pain, but I am going test every combo with what items to see the fanfare results. Maybe we can make it into a table or two, similar to the Nature tables. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 23:16, 10 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> : It seem that out of everything, the hat has the most influence on the final product of if you will get a certain fanfare/animation or not. Still testing [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 06:50, 11 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == How to Know When You've Bought All a Store Has ==<br /> <br /> Is it a sign that you've bought everything that a particular store has to offer when they stop changing their wares...? I don't really want to sit there with a checklist until I finish buying everything in the stylish shop, but certain clothing stores have started to show the exact same outfits every day of the week. Is this a sigh that I've bought everything? --[[User:Ulithium Dragon|Ulithium Dragon]] ([[User talk:Ulithium Dragon|talk]]) 16:27, 21 April 2014 (UTC)</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Enigma_Berry&diff=2102996 2014-04-11T01:17:52Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: /* When? */</p> <hr /> <div>It's &quot;not obtainable&quot;, yet I don't imagine FRLG or E have all of the e-Reader Berries programmed into them... so couldn't you trade a Pokémon into those games with a Pumkin Berry or something and then you'd have an Enigma? And if you traded that Enigma to a RS game that hadn't done any e-Reader Berrying... it'd also be an Enigma Berry...? &lt;span style=&quot;background:#FF9030&quot;&gt;'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;{{ani|155|Fire echy}}&lt;span style=&quot;background:#664444&quot;&gt;[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD700&quot;&gt;G&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E0E0E0&quot;&gt;S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;DS!&lt;/span&gt;]]'''&lt;/span&gt; 03:34, 26 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::In R/S (and japanese FR/LG/E), you are not allowed to enter the Trade center if any Pokémon in your party is holding an e-reader berry. [[User:Blueapple128|Blueapple128]] 20:34, 15 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == When? ==<br /> <br /> A Pokémon hold this is hit by a super-effective move, and recovers 25% HP, consuming it. OK, but is that before, after, or in place of any damage received? [[User:Samjohn95|&lt;font color=&quot;Blue&quot;&gt;Sam&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Samjohn95|&lt;font color=&quot;Purple&quot;&gt;john&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|&lt;font color=&quot;Teal&quot;&gt;95&lt;/font&gt;]] 19:42, 31 July 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I want to know this too. I gave this to my Froslass, expecting it to heal, but much to my dismay, a Salamence KO'd it with one super-effective rock slide. Why didn't the berry activate? Does it not work with full health? [[User:Zorakirby|Zorakirby]] 17:13, 26 May 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pokemon X and Y ==<br /> <br /> The berries page has the inigma berry listed as obtainable in Gen VI games, but I can't find any information on it, so does anyone know how to get it...? --[[User:Ulithium Dragon|Ulithium Dragon]] ([[User talk:Ulithium Dragon|talk]]) 01:17, 11 April 2014 (UTC)</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Clemont&diff=2100724 2014-04-06T14:51:50Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: /* Eye color */</p> <hr /> <div>==Sex==<br /> Is Citron definitely male? I can't find any gendered words on the scan for Zakuro or Citron.—[[User:Urutapu|urutapu]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]]) 03:08, 12 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Sister==<br /> Clemont has a sister named Bonnie. If I can recall correctly, he was in one of the screenshots for his character. {{unsigned|Poko907}}<br /> :Already mentioned in the infobox. No need to mention it in the article, as it isn't of that much importance and we know nothing about her. &lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Arial Black&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:Red&quot;&gt;☼ Blazing&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:Blazingfist|&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;Fist ☼&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt; 21:08, 12 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::Shouldn't she have her own article created now that it's been confirmed she'll be one of Ash's traveling companions along with her brother? [[User:Myzou|Myzou]] ([[User talk:Myzou|talk]]) 00:47, 15 September 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::[[Bonnie|She does have a page]]. Unless you mean an anime page, then no. It's too early for one. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 00:52, 15 September 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::How... weird. It doesn't show up when I search for it. O_o At any rate, shouldn't it be linked to on this page, by making the link that says Bonnie actually link to her page? [[User:Myzou|Myzou]] ([[User talk:Myzou|talk]]) 02:47, 15 September 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == clementine = clemont? ==<br /> <br /> could his name also be a male play on the name clementine, which is also the name of a variety of orange? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 00:53, 13 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Korean name for Clemont ==<br /> <br /> His Korean name is 시트론 ''Shiteuron''.<br /> * Transliteration of Japanese name. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 19:43, 20 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == General Japanese name observation ==<br /> <br /> It is also of note that Citroën is a brand of automobiles in France. Given Clemont's mechanized motif, I suspect there may be a connection. Read into this what you want.... -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 19:47, 20 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == fruit ==<br /> <br /> Why do we think all the gym leaders are named after fruit all of a sudden? [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 08:34, 24 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> :They aren't. They're named after plants. And look at [[Alexa]] and [[Viola]]'s names. They happen to keep the theme naming Pokemon characters have in the Japanese version. [[Grant]] also happens to be in the word pomegranate. It's fairly obvious that they're trying to keep the plant theme naming the Japanese versions use while also keeping the type pun. So, yes, it does come from lemon. But that's all we can put until we know his type; same with Grant. It's obvious he'll be an Electric-type Gym Leader and thus his name will either come from lemon battery or inclement weather. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 08:48, 24 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::lemons and pomegranates aren't plants though, they're fruit [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 12:25, 25 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::Irrelevant. My point still stands. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 12:42, 25 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::: &quot;They aren't [named after fruit]. They're named after plants&quot;. Fruit are not plants and therefore the gym leaders don't have a plant naming theme. [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 13:34, 25 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::::Vegetation? I don't know the proper term for this. There's a plant, fruit, vegetable, '''whatever''' theme. End of story. Now can we please end this discussion. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 13:52, 25 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Electric Type ==<br /> <br /> Isn't obvious that Clemont is an electric type gym leader?, why don't you put that down then? [[User:Ziggyangelo88|Ziggyangelo88]] ([[User talk:Ziggyangelo88|talk]]) 06:02, 11 August 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Speculation. It'll be added when it's confirmed. (And no, it isn't obvious. He might just as easily be a Steel-type leader. All we know about him is his gadgetry.) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:03, 11 August 2013 (UTC)<br /> Why are you being so rude in response to my comments. Theyre perfectly valid. why else would the blotch of color behind him be yellow in the official site. We know that the color of the blotch corresponds to the type, because viola uses bug type and she has a green blotch behind her. [[User:Ziggyangelo88|Ziggyangelo88]] ([[User talk:Ziggyangelo88|talk]]) 08:29, 11 August 2013 (UTC)<br /> :We can't assume things like that. It is likely that the color means he is Electric, but until we have confirmation that's the case, it should not be added to the article. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 08:29, 11 August 2013 (UTC)<br /> thanks for not being rude like Pumpkinking0192 was. --[[User:Ziggyangelo88|Ziggyangelo88]] ([[User talk:Ziggyangelo88|talk]]) 14:55, 11 August 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::Pumkinking0192 seems to be more blunt than rude, so there is no need to get emotional...anywho, as SnorlaxMonster said, we can't assume that just yet, you may think Electric but it could be Steel like Pumkinking0192 said, for all we know they could throw a lot of curve balls at us. It isn't that obvious yet. ----[[User:NateVirus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue&quot;&gt;NateVirus&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;''([[User talk:NateVirus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:green&quot;&gt;Talk&lt;/span&gt;]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;Contributions&lt;/span&gt;]]''&lt;/small&gt;) 20:14, 23 September 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Electric Type Leader ==<br /> <br /> I know we're waiting for official confirmation, but here are the things that point to Clemont being an Electric type leader: His official profile background is yellow, his badge looks like a device of some sort, his gym looks like it has a tech motif, he's an inventor, and his hair has a lightning bolt shaped cowlick. The name also has lemon in it, which could refer to a device that does not work correctly, which is something inventors would often face in their prototype phases. For reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon_(automobile) [[User:CoolDudeAl|CoolDudeAl]] ([[User talk:CoolDudeAl|talk]]) 01:04, 13 September 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: He could also easily be a Steel-type Gym Leader with the evidence you've provided, although the fact he is seen using Dedenne in the anime is making me think otherwise. --&lt;b&gt;[[User talk:Relicant|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#EBEBEB;&quot;&gt;The&lt;/span&gt;]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F08030;&quot;&gt;Truth&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/b&gt; aka Relicant 10:15, 13 September 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::: Now we know that he will also use Bunnelby, so I don't know what to expect now (Well, Eureka said ''keepu keepu'' in the trailer to Dedenne, so maybe it will be caught?)--[[User:Omojuzeforever|Omojuzeforever]] ([[User talk:Omojuzeforever|talk]]) 13:58, 20 September 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Pokemon Team==<br /> It [[Dedenne]], he is seen using in a battle against [[Ash's Pikachu]] {{unsigned|Conrado}}<br /> :New talk sections go at the bottom of the page, not the top. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:02, 16 September 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Lumiose==<br /> In the anime it is revealed that he's the Lumiose Gym leader (The All Mighty Serebii xD), can someone add it?--[[User:Omojuzeforever|Omojuzeforever]] ([[User talk:Omojuzeforever|talk]]) 10:59, 19 September 2013 (UTC)<br /> :they also revealed him to be a elecric type gym leader should I add it?<br /> hmm I have no permission to chage the page he is clearly a boy and a electric type gym leader of Lumiose City this was an official source so I assumed it was alright to change the page {{unsigned|Antonioleyba}}<br /> ::* Might need a link to see that. Either way, the admins will probably get to adding it to the page, if not someone will add it later when there is even more stuff that can be added I guess. IDK. ----[[User:NateVirus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue&quot;&gt;NateVirus&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;''([[User talk:NateVirus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:green&quot;&gt;Talk&lt;/span&gt;]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;Contributions&lt;/span&gt;]]''&lt;/small&gt;) 20:58, 22 September 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Clarify==<br /> Has he already appeared in the series, Pokemon Black &amp; White anime, or was it another blonde character? Or was it another blonde brother and sister? {{unsigned|Mantyke17}}<br /> :He has not yet appeared. He will debut at some point in the XY series. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:20, 23 September 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Eye color==<br /> The character infobox says &quot;Gray/Blue{{tt|*|In the anime.}}&quot; on the eye color section, but how is it known that his eyes are gray in the games if they can't be seen? --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] ([[User talk:Gabo 2oo|talk]]) 20:12, 26 January 2014 (UTC)<br /> :Concept art shows him without his glasses. &lt;sup&gt;[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C00;&quot;&gt;★&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt;[[User:Jo The Marten|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C00;&quot;&gt;Jo the Marten&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[Flygon (Pokémon)|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C00;&quot;&gt;★&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C00;&quot;&gt;ಠ_ಠ&lt;/span&gt;]][[Cilan (anime)|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#90C870;&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]] 21:41, 26 January 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == His Gadgets ==<br /> <br /> Does anyone else notice that the hovering gadgets attached via a cable to his backpack look extremely similar to those that Lysandre used during you last fight with him after you caught Xerneas/Yveltal...? I'm pretty sure that Clemont invents all his tools, so did Lysandre rip off his design, or did Clemont sell out to Kysandre's company? --[[User:Ulithium Dragon|Ulithium Dragon]] ([[User talk:Ulithium Dragon|talk]]) 14:51, 6 April 2014 (UTC)</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Hotel_Richissime&diff=2100445 2014-04-06T06:47:10Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: Created page with &quot;== How Many Successes Before Pay Goes Up == This seems like important information, but I can&#039;t find any information on how many times you need to succeed to get a pay raise. ...&quot;</p> <hr /> <div>== How Many Successes Before Pay Goes Up ==<br /> <br /> This seems like important information, but I can't find any information on how many times you need to succeed to get a pay raise. --[[User:Ulithium Dragon|Ulithium Dragon]] ([[User talk:Ulithium Dragon|talk]]) 06:47, 6 April 2014 (UTC)</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Snorunt_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=2100206 2014-04-05T22:35:57Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: /* Something wrong */</p> <hr /> <div>We need to find the proper name of the cloak on which Snorunt is based. -[[User:Argy|Argy]]<br /> <br /> For some reason it says that you can get snorunt on Pokémon Pinball, which is wrong. Maybe it meant the Ruby and Sapphire version? This needs to be changed.--[[User:100xstupid|100xstupid]] 10:55, 10 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :For those interested, both talk page queries have now been fulfilled. &amp;mdash; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000C8&quot;&gt;THE TROM&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] &amp;mdash; 21:37, 10 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Hehe... Argy's question was asked in April of '05. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 01:29, 11 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == About Bite or Crunch... ==<br /> <br /> I don't think it does open its mouth, because in ''[[AG108|Let it Snow, Let it Snow, Let in Snorunt]]'', [[Ash's Snorunt]] was eating an apple and its mouth was closed.<br /> I'm not sure if that's enough evidence though. --[[User:Chuck67322|Chuck67322]] 00:10, 31 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Super Smash Bros. Brawl ==<br /> <br /> Snorunt makes a cameo in SSBB in Pokemon Stadium 2's ice stage inside the hut. Someone should add this in. Here's an image of it:<br /> http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/ssb/images/0/08/Cat2.jpg<br /> [[User:Ksemanr|Ksemanr]]<br /> <br /> <br /> == Is this needed? ==<br /> <br /> The Despite the two having similar names Snorunt has no connection to Snorlax, which evolves from Munchlax. Part? Because the 2 don't even look alike, and I find this to be rather un-needed. &lt;small&gt;- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Borg184}} ([[User talk:Borg184|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Borg184|contribs]]) ''&lt;/small&gt;<br /> :I removed it from the Snorlax page a day or two ago, didn't think to check here. There is no need, because the pronounciation is different, as can be told from the origin of the names. Snorlax comes from Snore, so is pronounced Snore-lax, while Snorunt comes from Snow + Runt, therefore Snow-runt. ''Completely different''. I don't see why it was even added. /rant. I've removed it. &lt;sc&gt;[[User:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2D4B98;&quot;&gt;Werdnae&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sc&gt; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009000;&quot;&gt;(talk)&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 18:55, 19 May 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Alright thanks. &lt;small&gt;- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Borg184}} ([[User talk:Borg184|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Borg184|contribs]]) ''&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == Back Sprite ==<br /> <br /> Snorunt's 4th-gen, normal back sprite has dots on it that shouldn't be there. Does anyone have a better picture, or know how to correctly format the picture if that's the problem?--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 13:17, 30 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Something wrong ==<br /> <br /> Snorunt's B2W2 sprite is a Glalie.<br /> <br /> --[[User:Harv13|&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue&quot;&gt;Harv13&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;small&gt;''([[User talk:Harv13|&lt;span style=&quot;color:green&quot;&gt;talk page&lt;/span&gt;]])''&lt;/small&gt; 11:06, 20 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :How do you know that Snorunt didn't just evolve? :P Hahaha that was a pretty funny error. It's fixed now though. Thanks for pointing it out. &lt;sup&gt;[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C00;&quot;&gt;★&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt;[[User:Jo The Marten|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C00;&quot;&gt;Jo the Marten&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[Flygon (Pokémon)|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C00;&quot;&gt;★&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C00;&quot;&gt;ಠ_ಠ&lt;/span&gt;]][[Cilan (anime)|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#90C870;&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:09, 20 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ::You're welcome :) --[[User:Harv13|&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue&quot;&gt;Harv13&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;small&gt;''([[User talk:Harv13|&lt;span style=&quot;color:green&quot;&gt;talk page&lt;/span&gt;]])''&lt;/small&gt; 11:14, 20 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Gender Evolution Question ==<br /> <br /> Will a female Snorunt still evolve into Glalie at level 42? If so, this seems like something that should at the very least be in the trivia section...</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Honey&diff=2099231 2014-04-04T22:12:04Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: /* Generation V */</p> <hr /> <div>== Rarities incorrect ==<br /> I am just about absolutely certain that the article has the rarities of the rows reversed. I have just personally done some extensive testing on honey trees from about 250 slatherings on Pokémon Platinum, and Combee and Burmy are by far the most common Pokémon encountered, while Heracross is under 5%. The probabilities listed in the table imply the results ought to be just the opposite; are you honestly sure the rows don't go by descending order of probability? I have also found Combee to be significantly more common than Burmy, which really ought not to be the case if column 0 is truly 20% and column 1 70% as the article says (though this could be attributed to chance if we assume that an abnormal number of my trees started out in column 0 and remained there thanks to the 90% chance of picking from the same column). [[User:Dragonfree|Dragonfree]] 16:33, 15 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The rarities as displayed now are clearly wrong. I haven't been playing Platinum long enough to get a feeling for the Honey Tree rarity there, but I slathered hundreds of trees in Pearl, and saw only about five heracrosses (and no munchlaxes). It was nowhere near 14%, and the claim that heracrosses are almost three times as common as combees is ridiculous.<br /> :If the percentages for the rows ''and'' the columns are both reversed, these are the D/P rarities, which match my experience much more closely:<br /> :{|<br /> |Wurmple<br /> |29<br /> |-<br /> |Combee<br /> |22<br /> |-<br /> |Silcoon/Cascoon<br /> |14<br /> |-<br /> |Burmy<br /> |11<br /> |-<br /> |Cherubi<br /> |7.5<br /> |-<br /> |Aipom<br /> |5.5<br /> |-<br /> |Heracross<br /> |1<br /> |}<br /> :Extrapolating to the Platinum chart, these would be the rarities:<br /> :{|<br /> |Combee<br /> |32<br /> |-<br /> |Burmy<br /> |22<br /> |-<br /> |Wurmple<br /> |14<br /> |-<br /> |Cherubi<br /> |11<br /> |-<br /> |Aipom<br /> |10<br /> |-<br /> |Heracross<br /> |1<br /> |}<br /> :Do these figures match everyone else's subjective experience? --[[User:NoBuddy|NoBuddy]] 06:19, 6 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::The Platinum chart is an almost perfect match for my results, at least. This also rhymes with the fact that at least when it comes to route and water encounter data, the game arranges the slots in descending order by probability; it would make sense for it to do the same for both the columns and rows here. [[User:Dragonfree|Dragonfree]] 15:07, 6 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::So, should someone at least put a disclaimer on the page, until a hacker can confirm that the rarities are backwards? There are a lot of people who use Bulbapedia without looking at the Talk pages. [[User:NoBuddy|NoBuddy]] 18:10, 28 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I've fixed the encounter table and edited all the calculated rarities accordingly. --[[User:A magical me|a_magical_me]] 09:03, 6 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> I took the information DIRECTLY from the GAME CODE itself. Why are you altering it? The percentages were calculated EXACTLY the way the game determines a Pokemon. Yes I did not take into consideration the lack of &quot;sufficient randomness&quot;, but that only accounts for less than +-0.01% of the actual amount and has nothing to do with your &quot;subjective experience&quot;. Your &quot;subjective&quot; experience has nothing to do with what the game actually does. In fact, I take great insult knowing that I spent quite a bit of time putting together the technical explination and final tables for you guys to change it to what the game DOESN'T do. I will not fix it, have fun with your subjectivity. [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 07:59, 17 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> As a note, the rarities were NOT backwards, but thanks for making them backwards. I can confirm this, as I have read the code numerous times. The game's if statements are exclusive by doing a check for one column, the last column, then leaving the third with an else statement, hence why it may &quot;seem&quot; backwards. [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 08:04, 17 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Sabre, just leave them. Sure, its like they WANT to have articles with incorrect info. But there is nothing we can do about it. Except make the correct info available elsewhere. Of course we can't tell anyone where it is from here because our links just get erased. The one article that was perfect is now ruined. Good job A magical me. [[User:SCV|SCV]] 14:18, 17 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :SCV, Sabre, you two seem to be the only people here who understand the coding. I trust you've got it right. Go and fix it. I assure you Bulbapedia does not want to have incorrect information. If the information up now is incorrect that is because the editors who saw the change didn't understand if it was right or wrong. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 21:57, 17 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::I appreciate that, and the fact is, I put the table exactly how its listed in the game's data files, and SCV and I worked hard translating the assembly code (link below in another section) into readable instructions, and then creating a program to calculate the percentages accurately. When people dispute it, its very insulting, and this is not the first time. I personally have no need to update/fix/undo the garbage that was done, sorry. [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 05:45, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::I have reverted all intervening edits. Thank you, Sabre and SCV, for the hard work you did to determine this. Remember people that data and code ripped from the game &gt; any results from your own in-game testing. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 08:59, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::Oh, come on. Subjective, my foot. This is not just &quot;Hey, I kinda feel like Burmy is a little more common than Heracross.&quot; This is careful, extensive, experimental testing. You cannot honestly tell me that you believe my results from 250 slatherings simply happen, by pure chance, to be negatively correlated with the ''real'' probabilities if anything, while matching up almost perfectly with what would be the case if a particular simple mistake had been made at some point in the data extraction process. I fully sympathize with generally trusting hackers over casual players, but if I had ripped something from the game data and someone came along and told me they had 250 tests on a real game that strongly suggested something was very off with my data, I would not simply blow it off, no matter how certain I was. I dare you to find ''anybody in the world'' who has actually slathered some honey trees and would not be skeptical of your numbers. Heck, I dare you to try it yourselves. When the numbers in the article don't seem to match ''anybody'''s &quot;subjective experience&quot;, something is clearly wrong somewhere. This is not to be taken as an accusation against you who got the info, who have done an amazing job of fishing out the general mechanics of it. I'm just interested in finding the truth, and as much as I would ordinarily be inclined to trust the hackers, this is clearly not it. I am going to do more testing, this time eliminating the &quot;same tree&quot; bias. I'll do it thousands of times if that's what it takes. In the meantime I strongly suggest at least some sort of warning about the validity of the data be put in the article, but think what you like.[[User:Dragonfree|Dragonfree]] 15:31, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::The actual code itself has been linked to in this talk discussion. Why don't you read the code, and I will get you the actual data file from the game itself so you can read that as well. Then when you are done, you can create a program to determine the ACTUAL percentages. If you are interested in finding out the exact percentages by looking at the game itself, contact me, otherwise I will not waste my time anymore with this. While you may think the numbers I presented are wrong, using subjective experience to backup your claim is like allowing religious beliefs to govern scientific theory. I dare you to actually look at the game's code and data files before making ridiculous changes to information on a wiki page. [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 15:47, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::For the record, I'm not the one who edited the page - I just started the discussion here - but that's not really the point. The point is that if what the game &quot;ACTUALLY DOES&quot; is directly contrary to what happens when you actually play the game, something must be wrong somewhere along the line. You can't just sit here dismissing it by calling it &quot;subjective experience&quot; or decrying it as being something like religious faith - this is scientific testing I'm doing here, and by definition, my results ought to match up with the percentages deduced from the code, provided a sufficient sample. I don't know how in the world it manages not to match up, but the fact is nonetheless that it doesn't, and to think this doesn't demand any sort of explanation is ridiculous. [[User:Dragonfree|Dragonfree]] 17:03, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Whoa, chill. And remember that generally experimentation is considered science, and believing what you read is considered religion. 8) I'll have a look at the assembly dump below. [[User:Eevee|Eevee]] 17:17, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Umm... someone obviously doesn't understand how probability works. If you roll a six sided die, you have the same odds of getting any number on that die each time you roll it. That means you can get 1 one thousand times in a row, or you can get every single number an equal amount of times. It's not likely, but it's still possible. If you record the results of 1,000 die rolls and determine that you get 4 more then any other number, does that mean you are more likely to roll a 4 when you roll dice? NO! Case closed. [[User:Derian|&amp;#91;&amp;#91;Derian&amp;#93;&amp;#93;]] 17:10, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> Er alright that's not the best example because every roll on a dice has the same odds, where the different pokemon have different odds. Well my point is, results don't always reflect the chance. Just because there's a 10% chance of finding a certain Pokémon and a 20% chance of another, doesn't mean in 100 tries you'll find more of the Pokémon with the 20% chance. It's just more likely. Whoops left out my sig, sorry for the triple edit. [[User:Derian|&amp;#91;&amp;#91;Derian&amp;#93;&amp;#93;]] 17:14, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::If I roll a die 1000 times and it comes up 4 half the time, my first conclusion is going to be &quot;this is a loaded die&quot;, not &quot;well that COULD have happened I guess&quot;. What's the point of testing something if I'm prepared to assume my test results are a fluke, no matter what they are? [[User:Eevee|Eevee]] 17:17, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::In practice I would assume that to, when the results found from the in-game tests heavily contradicted the results found from the coding, then it wouldn't be unreasonable to review the code and make sure there weren't any errors. but submitting those findings as the percentages isn't right, an isolated incident showing otherwise doesn't prove that the percentages are wrong. How you 'feel' about something doesn't have a bearing on science, science is about facts. Just because you feel like the die is loaded because you get more 4's then anything else doesn't mean it is, I for one can remember rolling five 6's in a row. Strange things happen. But odds aren't &quot;This will happen this percentage of the time&quot; odds are &quot;this is more likely to happen then this&quot;. There's no way to be certain about something, and odds don't reflect results. Results reflect odds. Maybe those numbers found in the code were wrong, could have been a calculation error. But the results found through testing definitely weren't right, and there's no way to prove specifics scientifically what the odds are from that kind of testing. [[User:Derian|&amp;#91;&amp;#91;Derian&amp;#93;&amp;#93;]] 17:26, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::Law of large numbers. Five sixes in a row is not even in the same CLASS as getting one random result thrice as frequently as you should for a thousand rolls. Perhaps changing the article so soon was a bit rash, but experimental data from hundreds of attempts that completely contradicts what we &quot;know&quot; should at LEAST raise a few eyebrows. How can you claim a scientific approach otherwise? Discarding whatever doesn't match your existing knowledge is not the correct approach. Something is incorrect; drop the bias towards the status quo and help figure out what it is. (And please note that in fact most physical constants we have were determined ''experimentally'', exactly because we can't just decompile the universe. Not much different from this sort of testing, really.) [[User:Eevee|Eevee]] 17:33, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Yeah I know... just making a point, strange things happen. Yeah I definitely agree it should be looked into. Human error counts into a lot, I'm not saying the calculations made from the data are wrong but it should be checked and double checked and rechecked whenever it's largely contradicted. We just shouldn't change this numbers without proof. Of course! When we've got hard data to work with though that changes things a bit. if we could do that with other aspects of reality, we would. Alright I'm not going to say anything else haha. This isn't a forum after all... I apologize for how many I've made so far! [[User:Derian|&amp;#91;&amp;#91;Derian&amp;#93;&amp;#93;]] 17:41, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> SCV and I took the code from the assembly and applied it to the table provided in the game. The table looks exactly like this: [http://projectpokemon.org/wiki/Honey_Tree_(Technical)] - Please get the assembly code, read it, and apply it yourself to the game files. [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 17:41, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> : I have no problem going over the code again with SCV, and the data files, and recalculating the percentages, however going about it any other way when we have the code itself at our finger tips is childish and useless. It is also an insult to those like SCV and myself who worked VERY hard to find that data. [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 17:46, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> : I appreciate the revert that you did. If you guys look at the table, and review it in the game, you should see that it is exactly the same. The program by D-Trogh allows you to modify the table, so you should notice that its the same. Once you take the table and multiply them according to how its described, you will come to the same conclusions. [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 17:55, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> Wow, i didn't expect such a huge reaction. Sabresite, i ''did'' look at the code before i edited the article, but i just checked it again, just for you. [http://pastebin.com/f7a591ffb Here] is my analysis of the asm snippet that SCV provided. The function which sets the row is on lines 45-80. Let me point out that the rates given in the rows of the [[Honey#Encounter_table|encounter table]] contradict what is said in this very article. Observe:<br /> &lt;blockquote style=&quot;border-left: medium lightblue dotted; padding-left: 1em&quot;&gt;For the row, if the number is between 0 and 5, Pokémon 6 is used. If the number is between 6 and 10, Pokémon 5 is used. If the number is between 11 and 20, Pokémon 4 is used. If the number is between 21 and 40, Pokémon 3 is used. If the number is between 41 and 60, Pokémon 2 is used. If the number is between 61 and 100, Pokémon 1 is used.&lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> ...which agrees with my analysis.<br /> <br /> An example: the table says that the rate for Pokemon 6 is 40%, but according to this, Pokemon 6 has a 5% rate. The other rows in the table are similarly backwards.<br /> <br /> As for the columns, the offsets that SCV mentioned correspond to lines 30-41, which i can see now is not the whole picture. It seems that for munchlax trees, the rates are 20% for column 1 and 70% for column 2; but for munchlax-less trees, the rates are 70% for column 1 and 20% for column 2. Surprise! We were both right!<br /> <br /> I admire the work you and SCV have done in reversing the Pokemon games, which is why i can't bear to see this article ruined by such silly mistakes.<br /> <br /> --[[User:A magical me|a_magical_me]] 21:31, 19 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Are you absolutely sure that you checked ''all'' of the code involved, 100% and understood it all? Because just because they 'occur' in that order, doesn't mean that the game doesn't access them in the reverse order or change them in one spot. Add that on top of the fact that Assembly is extremely hard to follow and problems would be expected, to say the least. Also, Assembly (at least every dialect I've seen) doesn't have if..else statements. '''[[User:Myles|&lt;font color=&quot;#5588DD&quot;&gt;My&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#4477CC&quot;&gt;l&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#3366B0&quot;&gt;e&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#2255AA&quot;&gt;s&lt;/font&gt;]]''' &lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Myles|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Myles|contrib]])&lt;/sup&gt; 04:41, 23 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::I also read through the code, and he is correct. Again, note that the ''technical description in the article'' contradicts the table in the article! &quot;'''If the number is between 0 and 5, Pokémon 6 is used.'''&quot; Pokémon 6 should be 5%, not 40%. And yes, assembly doesn't have if/else per se; that link is to a rough C translation. The original dump is linked below. [[User:Eevee|Eevee]] 06:48, 25 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Eevee you are correct, I wrote the rows upside down. Keep in mind that I redid the information three times to account for formatting, so it might have been accidently reversed. If the percentages are reversed, then it can be easily fixed. With that said, my attack was not on your analysis, it was on other peoples' guessing. Also a_magical_me, assembly is straightforward, and if you know how to read it, then there are no problems to be expected. Also assembly does not have dialects. [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 06:41, 7 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Since we appear to be in agreement, I'll fix the article. It's still a bad idea to consider empirical results to be guessing; it's hard to measure accurate chances experimentally, yes, but you should always be suspicious if the game behaves very differently from how you think. The Pokémon community has had several misfacts float around for quite some time because everyone trusted &quot;common knowledge&quot; over what the games actually do. We're not infallible. Also, I think you mistargeted; [[User:Myles|Myles]] is confused about assembly, and [[User:A magical me|a_magical_me]] is the one who reread it. See, fallible. 8) [[User:Eevee|Eevee]] 20:18, 9 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Thanks for responding, Sabre! I'm glad we can put this behind us. You and SCV should keep up the good work. --[[User:A magical me|a_magical_me]] 01:41, 10 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == One little problem... ==<br /> The English language version calls it honey, can this be edited?[[User:Gatogirl|Gatogirl]]<br /> This has been taken care of. [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 01:51, 26 Feburary 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Duration and Other Pokemon ==<br /> Some information is incorrect. It does not take exactly ten hours before a Pokemon appears. I have periods of time shorter than this (approx 8 hours) and much longer (although I am not sure how much longer). It may also be of some use to record which other Pokemon can appear on the trees. i.e. Wurmple and one of those cocoon Pokemon. [[User:Dark2th|Dark2th]] 08:27, 15 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> :I have just found a Pokemon in a tree that I slathered with honey 4 hours ago. So the time is definitely not 10. I have also discovered what may or may not be a glitch. After slathering a tree with honey it is possible to slather it with honey again, but it seems to remove the first slathering of honey. For example, the text box will say - &quot;The bark is slathered with honey, slather the bark with honey?&quot; Check the tree again - &quot;There is a sweet smell in the air, slather the bark with honey?&quot; Has anyone else experienced this? [[User:Dark2th|Dark2th]] 08:27, 15 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Silcoon is the 'cocoon pokemon' I referred to earlier [[User:Dark2th|Dark2th]] 07:38, 16 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The duration is exactly 6 hours to 23 hours 59 minutes. [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 01:49, 26 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Rarity ==<br /> <br /> According to the game files, the pokemon are arranged in a table. The table for Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum have been posted. The rarity is based on a PRNG algorithm and applied to this table. I also put up the frequency of each combination. To calculate rarity for a pokemon, such as Wurmple, in Diamond/Pearl, you would do the following<br /> <br /> ( 0.05 × 0.10 ) + ( 0.40 * 0.70 ) = 0.285 or '''28.5%'''<br /> [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 01:54, 26 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> :I'm sorry, but I'm having a hard time trusting these calculations. There is absolutely ''no way'' that Munchlax's encounter rate is 20%. I've spent the past few days on Pokémon Platinum slathering Honey on the same five trees and not once have I encountered a Munchlax, and I've only encountered Heracross and Aipom once each. [[User:Danieru Lynx|Danieru Lynx]] 07:43, 27 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Well, here is a link to the thumb code responsible for these probabilities. [http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/551000/HoneyTree.txt] If you can find an error in the calculation, please point it out. <br /> 021F4F2A- 021F4F42 determine which list the pokemon comes out of and 021F4F60-021F4F96 which pokemon out of that list. [[User:SCV|SCV]] 26 February 2009<br /> <br /> It seems that under certain circumstances a new list number is not obtained, this definitely affects the probability. I will try to determine what causes that to happen. This effect happens per tree. [[User:SCV|SCV]] 27 Febreuary 2009 16:10:50 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I figured out the discrepancy between observations and the previous calculation. There was another probability we were missing and it is that the list only changes 10% of the time. So for most people they only have a 2% chance of encountering muchlax. [[User:SCV|SCV]] 14:29, 1 March 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> So if you get a tree that does not have a Munchlax, there is a 10% chance that the list will change, and of that 10% chance, a 20% chance that it will be Munchlax. How would we construct the statistical analysis so that we can get an overall percentage of occurance for each pokemon? [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 18:02, 1 March 2009 (UTC)<br /> : Because of the nature of how the calculation works, 4 separate lists must be used. I have posted the encounter rates for each scenario. [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 19:24, 1 March 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> SCV has discovered more information regarding the probabilities. We will need to adjust the information greatly. [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 20:50, 2 March 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The Bulbaglitch. ==<br /> <br /> Okay, YouTube. Proof. Give it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:58, 26 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> When I have time, I will produce the glitch and make a video. The easiest way to produce it is to save the game using an emulator. Go to locations 0x730C in the save file, (Route 209 Honey Tree), and 0x4730C and change the value to 0x20. Make sure you slathered something on the tree first. Changing the value tells the game to retrieve row 32 in the table, which is beyond the length of the table. The data in that location is 01, making the pokemon Bulbasaur. [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 02:09, 26 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Well that's kinda. Hacking. Is there any way to force it for the ''actual'' game? '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:54, 26 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> It is difficult to explain. I will remove it from the article until I have time to explain it in future detail. [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 03:29, 26 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Multiple People Editing At Once ==<br /> <br /> I apologize for reverting some formatting errors, Bulbapedia's site is very slow and choppy. Quite frequently I get a page down error and must repaste what I typed, which then overwrites what other people are changing. Sorry. [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 02:09, 26 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> :It does that sometimes. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:52, 26 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Making sense of the tables. ==<br /> <br /> Could someone please explain to me how this formula works? On the main page, it's worded in an awkward way, and it's rather unclear what it means. <br /> <br /> Firstly, from the 4 tables that are given, the first says &quot;Slathering a tree&quot;. Does this mean that it is Slathered for the first time, or are these the base values for which the following three tables are derived? I'm asking this, because I'm really doubting that 20% chance of Munchlax the first time that the tree is Slathered, but the article isn't telling me that it's not.<br /> <br /> Also, under the &quot;Slathering the same tree&quot; heading, the article mentions that the following three tables are only applicable &quot;if the same tree is slathered more than once in a row&quot;. This would mean that if another tree is Slathered after the first is Slathered, then the game reverts back to the first table, meaning that the chances of encountering a Munchlax then becomes 20% again. However, I simply can't believe that Munchlax has a 20% encounter rate - there must be something wrong here.<br /> <br /> I'd go through each of the calculations myself, but I really don't have the time at the moment, I have lots of School work to be doing, so could someone clarify the above please? Thanks a lot.--[[User:Ggled|Ggled]] 18:31, 2 March 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : As a matter of fact there is more to the calculation and the green value plays a different role than we had first anticipated. There also seems to be a restriction on Munchlax which we were not aware of before. I will adjust ALL of the numbers and tables once SCV has finished rewriting the THUMB/ARM game code in C++.<br /> : From what we can gather right now, Munchlax is only available on 4/21 trees, with an encounter rating of 1%. There is also a 10% chance of no Pokemon being on the tree, and for trees where Munchlax may be encountered, there is a 9% chance. This means there will be a total of 2 base tables (Slathering a Tree with Munchlax, and Slathering a Tree without (Munchlax), and 2 sets of Slathering the Same Tree in a row, one with Munchlax, and one without. [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 06:19, 3 March 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: I have updated the technical information, however not the encounter ratios. I will update those tonight sometime. [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 22:20, 3 March 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Charting Nothing ==<br /> <br /> I would argue that charting nothing is necessary. People will NOT count the percentages to see if it adds up to 100%, or not. And since it doesn't add to 100% without the &quot;nothing&quot;, people will think the numbers are wrong.<br /> I suggest that the entries for &quot;No Pokemon Encountered&quot; be represented in some fashion in that chart. [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 07:38, 4 March 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I think you mean people WILL count the percentages. Maybe a note at the bottom of each table is enough? [[User:SCV|SCV]] 16:41, 4 March 2009 (UTC)<br /> : Yeah, something....[[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 17:12, 4 March 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Munchlax Trees? ==<br /> <br /> The article talks about &quot;trees with Munchlax&quot; and &quot;trees without Munchlax&quot;. Is there a list anywhere that says which trees are where?--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 00:35, 23 March 2009 (UTC)<br /> :They are unique to each game, and dependent on the player's ID number. I think that is in the article.... &amp;mdash; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000C8&quot;&gt;THE TROM&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] &amp;mdash; 00:52, 23 March 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Why was the revision with a link to the munchlax tree calculator undone==<br /> <br /> As the above section clearly shows people want to know how to find them. [[User:SCV|SCV]] 20:03, 11 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I'd like to know where a Munchlax Tree Calculator is as well. [[User:EliasT|EliasT]] 13:51, 18 April 2009 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Time of the day? ==<br /> <br /> Is the chance of encountering a certain Pokémon affected by what time it is? Only, this morning (on Diamond) about 12-15 of the Pokémon I saw were Combee, and that's supposed to be only 5.5%. Later on in the day, at around 2:00, 11 of them were Silcoon, and that's only supposed to be 1% chance. Is there something we're missing here?--[[User:Ggled|Ggled]] 13:02, 14 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Were you soft-resetting your game every time you checked the same tree? [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 13:12, 14 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Soft Resetting doesn't change the Pokémon that you encounter (correct me if I'm wrong here), so I don't see how it's relevant. I didn't, by the way.--[[User:Ggled|Ggled]] 15:28, 14 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Ask Sabresite. He's the one who got all the data for this. Given the preciseness of his figures, I would doubt he missed something as big as that. It hasn't been picked up on any other site either. Given how far we are after the release, I would say not. &amp;mdash; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000C8&quot;&gt;THE TROM&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] &amp;mdash; 07:42, 15 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::Fair enough. I can see your logic there. I have really weird luck anyways - it took about 70 soft resets before Mr. Backlot mentioned seeing a Porygon in Trophy Garden o_O [[User:Ggled|Ggled]] 14:34, 15 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::What's soft-resetting?--[[User:Totodilesentret|&lt;font color=&quot;blue&quot;&gt;Totodile&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;brown&quot;&gt;sentret!&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[User Talk:Totodilesentret|&lt;font color=&quot;gold&quot;&gt;Talk to me.&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 14:43, 15 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::Start+Select+L+R to reset the game as opposed to using the power switch. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 17:31, 15 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::It's basically resetting the game without manually turning off the power, and then back on again. In DPPt, it's done by pressing L, R, Select and Start all at the same time. [[User:Ggled|Ggled]] 17:34, 15 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sources ==<br /> <br /> Could the sources of information about these probabilities be added to the bottom of the page? I would like to read more in-depth information about these probabilities from their original calculations. [[User:Yenreb|Yenreb]] 03:04, 22 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Well, that is explained in the Technical Mechanics section. Is there anything that you think is missing? [[User:SCV|SCV]] 16:38, 23 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Page split ==<br /> <br /> Nothing major here, but considering that we have separate articles for the [[Hidden Power calculation|mechanics]] behind {{m|Hidden Power}} (and probably other things), I'm suggesting the calculation part of the article is moved to Honey tree calculation, and this article is left to focus on the item. &amp;mdash; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000C8&quot;&gt;THE TROM&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] &amp;mdash; 22:37, 30 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Muchlax ==<br /> <br /> I think we should say which trees have Munchlax if only 4 of them do. [[User:Random Chaos|Random Chaos]] 14:02, 4 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> :They're randomly determined at the start of the game, and are different for each one. Therefore, there's no way to tell which 4 will have Munchlax in, so we can't include it in the article.<br /> <br /> Oh come on that sucks. Muchlax is harder to get than Heatran. [[User:Random Chaos|Random Chaos]] 16:15, 4 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> :You could just go on the GTS for it. [[User:Ggled|Ggled]] 18:20, 4 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> If I had Wifi [[User:Random Chaos|Random Chaos]] 19:04, 4 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Wait, so there's only 4 paces to get them just like feebas right? so if I check all trees listed rthen one of those has to be the 90% munchlax tree? I'm really confused about the honey stuff, I still need heracross, too. (sidenote: I hate GTS)--[[User:Barakku|Barakku]] 02:37, 7 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> :They don't change, unlike the Feebas locations. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 02:42, 7 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Ohh, good to know, thanks. From recent experience with GTS I may be able to get one there...--[[User:Barakku|Barakku]] 16:38, 7 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Useless amounts of detail ==<br /> <br /> Mechanics are all well and good, but they generally take the form of explaining the logic. This reads more like pseudocode (which, effectively, it is). Ex: &quot;Let R be the pseudo-random number from 0 to 65535. E = ( R / 656 ) % 656&quot;. Is it really necessary to explain exactly what algorithm the game uses to get a random number in [0, 99]? It's also confusing to start out explaining the save format, which is meaningless before any trees at all have been slathered. Unless there are objections, I'm going to rewrite this to be a bit more high-level. [[User:Eevee|Eevee]] 20:57, 9 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Generation V ==<br /> <br /> Does Honey exist in B/W at all? Combee still has Honey Gather if anyone wants to check for themselves by transfering one over.... [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 01:16, 15 January 2011 (UTC)<br /> :Bump. And yes, it does exist but only as a leftover item from Generation IV within their coding. [[User:Pokemon lover|&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:green&quot;&gt;ポケモン&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue&quot;&gt;あいこうか&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] 14:44, 5 August 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Pokemon X and Y ==<br /> <br /> As far as I can tell, honey can only be found in several hidden locations in Pokemon X and Y, but does anyone know how often they respawn? I can't find this information anywhere... [[User:Ulithium Dragon|Ulithium Dragon]] ([[User talk:Ulithium Dragon|talk]]) 22:12, 4 April 2014 (UTC)</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pseudo-legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon/Archive_1&diff=2099225 2014-04-04T21:59:48Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: /* Pokédex placement */</p> <hr /> <div>==What???==<br /> What??? Do we seriously need this??? --{{Ani|155}}{{Ani|476}}'''[[User:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7F00&quot;&gt;Theryguy&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Sandbox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;]]'''{{Ani|473}} 20:06, 30 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> :im not going to say its unnessecary, but &quot;Psuedo-legendary&quot; sounds really stupid. so, i think it should either be reworked or deleted. maybe just add to each pokemon's trivia section that they are near legendary or somthing. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;MAGNEDETH&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;PT]]''' 20:12, 30 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> :I say reworked[[User:Pokemaniac102|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F05030;&quot;&gt;'''''&lt;sup&gt;&lt;big&gt;P&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;o&lt;sub&gt;&lt;big&gt;k&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;e'''''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#007FFF;&quot;&gt;'''''&lt;sup&gt;&lt;big&gt;m&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;a&lt;sub&gt;&lt;big&gt;n&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;i&lt;sup&gt;&lt;big&gt;a&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;c'''''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Pokemaniac102/Riddle|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009900;&quot;&gt;'''''&lt;sub&gt;&lt;big&gt;1&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;'''''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102/Riddle|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5218FA;&quot;&gt;'''''0'''''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Pokemaniac102/Fanfic|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#3B444B;&quot;&gt;'''''&lt;sup&gt;&lt;big&gt;2&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;'''''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Pokemaniac102/Picto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFFF00;&quot;&gt;'''''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF2400;&quot;&gt;♪&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102/Picto|&lt;sub&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#00FF7F;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;'''''&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:16, 30 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Needs moar reworking. I'll add the cleanup sign.. [[User:Tina|Tina]]&lt;sup&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 20:21, 30 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::what should they be called then? or do yall think the anme is OK? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;MAGNEDETH&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;PT]]''' 20:36, 30 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::::What'ch ya tryin' to say huh!?[[User:Pokemaniac102|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F05030;&quot;&gt;'''''&lt;sup&gt;&lt;big&gt;P&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;o&lt;sub&gt;&lt;big&gt;k&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;e'''''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#007FFF;&quot;&gt;'''''&lt;sup&gt;&lt;big&gt;m&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;a&lt;sub&gt;&lt;big&gt;n&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;i&lt;sup&gt;&lt;big&gt;a&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;c'''''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Pokemaniac102/Riddle|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009900;&quot;&gt;'''''&lt;sub&gt;&lt;big&gt;1&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;'''''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102/Riddle|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5218FA;&quot;&gt;'''''0'''''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Pokemaniac102/Fanfic|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#3B444B;&quot;&gt;'''''&lt;sup&gt;&lt;big&gt;2&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;'''''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Pokemaniac102/Picto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFFF00;&quot;&gt;'''''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF2400;&quot;&gt;♪&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102/Picto|&lt;sub&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#00FF7F;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;'''''&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:38, 30 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::Seems to me that this would an article if where was a &quot;Competitive Battling Project&quot; thing. I do believe I heard the term &quot;Pseudo-legendary&quot; at least once in some places such as Smogon... [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]]<br /> <br /> ::::::::I heard it before. But that was when it was refering to the Groudon in jirachi movie<br /> <br /> :::::::::They are all generally recognised as a set of unique pokemon with a few exceptions to each. (e.g. Garchomp's national pokedex number). However, the fan-term 'pseudo-legendary' in itself only actually refers to their final stages. (Dragonite, Tyranitar, Salamence, Metagross, Garchomp). Isn't this a bit inaccurate? --[[User:Hyurnat4|Hyurnat4]] 08:44, 11 November 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::::Well in the anime, Dratini was specifically called a legendary pokemon in [[EP035|Legend of Dratini]] [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 20:35, 20 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Flygon? ==<br /> <br /> I thought only base 600s were psudeo legendary. Why is flygon here? [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 02:52, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I'm not too sure either. o__O; [[User:Tina|Tina]]&lt;sup&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 02:53, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::It's a three-stage part-dragon type that can only be found in its first form. &lt;span style=&quot;background: #000000&quot;&gt;[[User:Shiny Noctowl|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #808080&quot;&gt;S&lt;sup&gt;&lt;big&gt;h&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;i&lt;sub&gt;&lt;big&gt;n&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;y&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #808080&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;big&gt;N&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;o&lt;sub&gt;&lt;big&gt;c&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;t&lt;sup&gt;&lt;big&gt;o&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;w&lt;sub&gt;&lt;big&gt;l&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt; 02:54, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::i dont think Flygon should be there, its just not rediculous enough '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;MAG&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #696969;&quot;&gt;NE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;DETH&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 02:55, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Dragonair? ==<br /> <br /> CAn't you find wild dragonair in more than 1 game? [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 03:19, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Yeah, FRLGRBYDP, But in DP you can find Pokéradar-ed Vibrava. So? [[User:Midnight Celtic|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#9966CC;&quot;&gt;Midnight Celtic&lt;/span&gt;]] 03:21, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :the fact of the matter is that Dragonite is def a psuedo-leg. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;MAG&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #696969;&quot;&gt;NE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;DETH&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 03:24, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Agreed. [[User:Midnight Celtic|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#9966CC;&quot;&gt;Midnight Celtic&lt;/span&gt;]] 03:25, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Aggron ==<br /> <br /> What about Aggron? [[User:Kpokefan|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#003366;&quot;&gt;K&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Kpokefan|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#003366;&quot;&gt;P&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Kpokefan/Missions|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#003366;&quot;&gt;F&lt;/span&gt;]] 04:37, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Aggron's UU, I believe. UU Pokémon wouldn't be psuedolegendary if they were in UU. :p [[User:Tina|Tina]]&lt;sup&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 04:39, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::may i ask what UU is? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;MAG&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #696969;&quot;&gt;NE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;DETH&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 04:41, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::I think it means Under-used, as in List of Pokémon by Tier, which is fan-made[[User:Pokemaniac102|&lt;font color=#FF0000&gt;Po&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=#FFFF00&gt;ke&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&lt;font color=#00FF00&gt;Ma&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=#00FFFF&gt;ni&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=#0000FF&gt;ac&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|&lt;font color=#FF00FF&gt;102&lt;/font&gt;]] 04:45, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::::Yep, under-used. It's fanmade. As is the term pseudolegendary. [[User:Tina|Tina]]&lt;sup&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 04:46, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::::right, well, Aggron doesnt fit the bill because Lairon can be caught in Victory road, and apparently, thats against the rules...or somthing... '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;MAG&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #696969;&quot;&gt;NE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;DETH&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 04:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::::::True.[[User:Pokemaniac102|&lt;font color=#FF0000&gt;Po&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=#FFFF00&gt;ke&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&lt;font color=#00FF00&gt;Ma&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=#00FFFF&gt;ni&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=#0000FF&gt;ac&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|&lt;font color=#FF00FF&gt;102&lt;/font&gt;]] 04:49, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Wait a minute, you can catch Dragonair in the wild, so how is Lairon against the rules? [[Image:491.png|45px 45px]][[User:Kpokefan|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0;&quot;&gt;'''K'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Kpokefan|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#50C878;&quot;&gt;'''P'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Kpokefan/Missions|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFA6C9;&quot;&gt;'''F'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 02:45, 6 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Because Aggron's base stats don't total 600. - [[User:Nebula|Nebula]] 15:45, 13 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::The true defintion of pseudo-legendary is a bst of 600 and a three-stage evolutionary line. Things like Dragonair and gabite being caught in the wild are merely trivial. As is the fact they all have one immunity etc. Aggron, Flygon and Kingdra are NOT pseudo-legendaries and never will be. P-Ls do not have to be dragon-type or dragonoid. --[[User:Hyurnat4|Hyurnat4]] 08:50, 11 November 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Real definition for psuedo-legendary ==<br /> <br /> Isn't it a BST of 600? [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 13:12, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pseudo-legendary --&gt; Powerhouse ==<br /> <br /> It seems to me that everyone who commented on this page, other than Shiny Noctowl, was dumbfounded as to the article's title and definition therein. For pages dealing with fanon terminology, this is a good sign that something has been done '''wrong'''; fanon terms are ''necessarily'' known to a large number of fans, as opposed to a select few, or in this case - no more than one.<br /> <br /> Furthemore, the page (prior to my editing it) included mentions of Pokémon with legendary characteristics, despite their having nothing to do with the suggested definiton of pseudo-legendary. It was also a mere copy-and-paste of the corresponding section on the [[Legendary]] page. Now, as for the definition itself, it should be crystal-clear that the powerhouses, as defined by myself, are ''distinct'' in their categorization from any other Pokémon ({{p|Flygon}}, for the sake of discussion). Simply put, they are non-legendary Pokémon whose total base stats is 600, which is a great deal higher than Flygon's 520 (see the trivia paragraph for clarification on {{p|Slaking}}). Besides, what makes Flygon any more special than {{p|Aggron}}, {{p|Walrein}} and the 7 fully-evolved, two-typed starters? All of these match the definition used by Shiny Noctowl. I do hope that competitive usage is not the reason, because {{p|Swampert}} and {{p|Infernape}} clearly outweigh Flygon in that regard.<br /> <br /> It amazes me that everyone assumed that the definition was acceptable simply because someone had put it forth. Bulbapedia encourages critical thinking and sets virtually no limits on the users' capacity to edit existing pages. Why was I the only one who had the fortitude to replace the previous definition with one that is actually used by the fandom? --[[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 16:47, 4 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Mudkipchan apparently heard pseudo-legendary on Smogon, and I've heard pseudo-legendary on several websites, so I think it should be moved back. I agree, though, that the definition needed some work. But why remove Flygon? Its stats are slightly lower, but base stats shouldn't be included in the definition. Other than base stats, Flygon is in every way a pseudo-legendary. &lt;span style=&quot;background: #000000&quot;&gt;[[User:Shiny Noctowl|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #808080&quot;&gt;S&lt;sup&gt;&lt;big&gt;h&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;i&lt;sub&gt;&lt;big&gt;n&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;y&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #808080&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;big&gt;N&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;o&lt;sub&gt;&lt;big&gt;c&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;t&lt;sup&gt;&lt;big&gt;o&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;w&lt;sub&gt;&lt;big&gt;l&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt; 13:57, 5 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::You can see my comments on the article's name further below. Now, the explanation for my excluding Flygon should be quite obvious from the pieces of trivia; Dragonite, Tyranitar, Salamence, Metagross and Garchomp have more in common than what you listed in your definition, and in fact, they have more in common than just my addition to that definition (a total base stats of 600). Flygon does not share that common denominator; what it does share with the aforementioned five is also shared by ''at the very least'' Walrein and Aggron, who are part of a three-stage line, have two types, require nearly as much experience to reach their form, and have an even higher total of base stats (530). If the only reason for which you included Flygon but excluded those two is that you thought only Flygon was available strictly in its first form, then you thought wrong: In Generation III Sealeo and Walrein are also not available in the wild; in Generation IV both Vibrava and Sealeo are available (incidentally, Lairon is not).<br /> <br /> ::But all of that is irrelevant, since neither Flygon nor Walrein (nor Aggron, for that matter) has enough in common with the powerhouses/pseudo-legendaries so as to be added to the group. It is enough to require a total base stats of 600 to limit the group to the five relevant ones (a respectable addition in and of itself), but again, their common denominator is even greater than that. Look at the trivia and see it for yourself. --[[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 13:55, 6 January 2008 (UTC) <br /> <br /> I agree with Shiny, Pseudo-Legendary makes more sense. I.E. My Snorlax is a powerhouse, but it isn't a pseudo-legendary. My Flygon is not my powerhouse, yet it is a pseudo-legendary. Catch my drift? [[User:Midnight Celtic|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#9966CC;&quot;&gt;Midnight Celtic&lt;/span&gt;]] 15:28, 5 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Psudo legendary should be used. But the only pokemon that should meet this criteria are those 3 stage evos with a base stat of 600. Slaking is questionable, but I would say no to it, as well as flygon. [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 01:08, 6 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I'm with {{u|Unown Lord}}. Take it or leave it. -[[User:Politoed666|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#30D5C8&quot;&gt;ニョロトノ&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Politoed666|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4&quot;&gt;''666''&lt;/span&gt;]] 03:29, 6 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::i agree with Placebo, though i think Slaking might be in. but not Flygon. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;MAG&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #696969;&quot;&gt;NE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;DETH&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 03:31, 6 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I think Midnight Celtic makes a good point, powerhouse can mean ANY strong Pokémon, where as Psuedo-legendary makes a clear point. [[User:GlinnMgraw|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;Glinn&lt;/span&gt;]] 03:37, 6 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Incorrect. It depends on the definition, not the connotation that goes along with the given word(s). -[[User:Politoed666|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#30D5C8&quot;&gt;ニョロトノ&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Politoed666|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4&quot;&gt;''666''&lt;/span&gt;]] 03:39, 6 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> What's the point in a defenition if it doesn't explain clearly the subject? [[User:GlinnMgraw|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;Glinn&lt;/span&gt;]] 03:44, 6 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> absolutly, my old car was nicknamed &quot;the powerhouse&quot; but it was definatly not a pokemon! that being said, &quot;powerhouse&quot; is a general term, it sounds more like a metagame term than a true definition. i could load a powerful pokemon with powerful attacks, and ive got a powerhouse, but a psuedo-legendary means its special in some way, and what you are trying to appeal here is to somone whos never jheard the term before, and they will almost understand what psuedo-legendary just by the sound, where as a powerhouse requires an explanation. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;MAG&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #696969;&quot;&gt;NE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;DETH&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 04:00, 6 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I agree, powerhouse is too broad a term for these Pokémon. Pseudo-legendary fits the bill better. &lt;span style=&quot;background:#FF9030&quot;&gt;'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;{{ani|155|Fire echy}}&lt;span style=&quot;background:#664444&quot;&gt;[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD700&quot;&gt;G&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E0E0E0&quot;&gt;S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;DS!&lt;/span&gt;]]'''&lt;/span&gt; 05:57, 6 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::First of all, my ''true'' gripe was with the contents of the article; redirecting the article to a new title was primarily symbolic of the reshifting of its underlying ideas. However, I would like to point out the irony in the statement that powerhouse is too broad a term spanning just about every overused Pokémon - the same can be said of pseudo-legendary, as evidenced by the fact that this article originally contained a separate list of Pokémon with legendary characteristics! <br /> <br /> ::Furthermore, I personally feel that ''pseudo-legendary'' should be used to describe only two Pokémon that are not even mentioned in the article: {{p|Unown}} and {{p|Phione}}. ''Legendary'' alludes to mystery and nature or universe-controlling abilities; this article deals with battle prowess, for which legendaries are certainly well known, but it takes second place to their aura. Besides, some legendaries are not as battle-competent as the pseudo-legendaries/powerhouses in the article - practically all tweleve members of the legendary trios, and arguably some others. This comparison holds in base stats (the legendary trio all have a total of 580, which is lower than 600), but even an in-depth comparison on a competitive level leads to the same conclusion, at least generally. Therefore, is it justified to attach the name ''pseudo-legendary'' to a definition that highlights the battle prowess of Pokémon that are actually stronger than some legendaries? On the other hand, Unown and Phione are indeed pseudo-legendary if the term is taken to mean a Pokémon whose aura is associated with a true legendary ({{p|Suicune}} in Unown's case and {{p|Manaphy}} in Phione's).<br /> <br /> ::But I digress, as I do agree that if ''pseudo-legendary'' is more frequently used by the fandom to describe the group in question, then it should be used for the purposes of discussing a fanon term.<br /> <br /> ::One last thing - I appreciate Politoed666's token of solidarity. I don't mind reversions to my own edits, especially when done by another sysop, but it isn't my idea of showing respect; it would have been better to wait a bit longer in case I had arguments to present. I only wonder why the same level of urgency was not taken to revise the contents of the article in its original format, when it obviously needed re-working. --[[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 13:55, 5 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I agree with certain points made by Unown Lord. Perhaps the overall issue with the term &quot;pseudo-legendary&quot; is the usage of &quot;legendary.&quot; There are Pokémon that are &quot;legendary&quot; which do have certain exclusive characteristics, and applying the term to another group has its drawbacks. While the term may certain have specific applications to the pseudo-legendary Pokémon it is difficult to draw a completely defined line, contrary to the case with legendary Pokémon. The debate over which Pokémon &quot;qualify&quot; has no feasible ending point, as fans will always stick to their opinion concerning which ones &quot;deserve&quot; to be included. Sure, we have limits on Bulbapedia but in spite of this fact, there is still such an issue, as we can see from this very page. Honestly, I have no problem with the term, despite how vague it is and the supposed difficulty adhering to its guidelines. My wife on the other hand, disagrees with its usage for many of the reasons I mention. [[User:Deviant Audio|Deviant Audio]] 16:01, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Title Trouble ==<br /> <br /> Uhh, guys, the title says Pseudo-legendary but the article is about powerhouses... --[[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]] 06:01, 6 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :It's what I was in the middle of fixing, then a million edit conflicts come up. Argh. &lt;span style=&quot;background:#FF9030&quot;&gt;'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;{{ani|155|Fire echy}}&lt;span style=&quot;background:#664444&quot;&gt;[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD700&quot;&gt;G&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E0E0E0&quot;&gt;S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;DS!&lt;/span&gt;]]'''&lt;/span&gt; 06:09, 6 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::Oh... My bad.[[User:Pokemaniac102|&lt;font color=#FF0000&gt;Po&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=#FFFF00&gt;ke&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&lt;font color=#00FF00&gt;Ma&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=#00FFFF&gt;ni&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=#0000FF&gt;ac&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|&lt;font color=#FF00FF&gt;102&lt;/font&gt;]] 06:12, 6 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I tried editing it, but then edit-conflicts. Why were you doing one at a time? I could have done it in 30 seconds. :| [[User:GlinnMgraw|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;Glinn&lt;/span&gt;]] 06:12, 6 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :There were a lot. And I wanted to get some in before there was in edit conflict[[User:Pokemaniac102|&lt;font color=#FF0000&gt;Po&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=#FFFF00&gt;ke&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&lt;font color=#00FF00&gt;Ma&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=#00FFFF&gt;ni&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=#0000FF&gt;ac&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|&lt;font color=#FF00FF&gt;102&lt;/font&gt;]] 06:14, 6 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::hows about we make a note the page about how some people call it &quot;powerhouse&quot; '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;MAG&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #696969;&quot;&gt;NE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;DETH&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 18:52, 6 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::Uh Uh Uh I guess.[[User:Pokemaniac102|&lt;font color=#FF0000&gt;Po&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=#FFFF00&gt;ke&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&lt;font color=#00FF00&gt;Ma&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=#00FFFF&gt;ni&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=#0000FF&gt;ac&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|&lt;font color=#FF00FF&gt;102&lt;/font&gt;]] 18:55, 6 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Arcanine ==<br /> Shouldn't Arcanine be classified as a powerhouse pokemon as well? [[User:Boywonder01|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;'''Boy'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Boywonder01|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;'''wonder'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Boywonder01|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;'''01'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 10:05, 10 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Powerhouse. Not pseudo-legendary. There's a difference: Porygon-Z's a powerhouse, Alakazam's a powerhouse. Their base stats in Special Attack are higher than the base stats of any other non-legendary's Attack or Special Attack, but they aren't pseudo-legendary. They aren't the final forms of end-of-dex Pokémon, they're just final forms of Pokémon that do really well in Special Attack. &lt;span style=&quot;background:#FF9030&quot;&gt;'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;{{ani|155|Fire echy}}&lt;span style=&quot;background:#664444&quot;&gt;[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD700&quot;&gt;G&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E0E0E0&quot;&gt;S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;DS!&lt;/span&gt;]]'''&lt;/span&gt; 10:35, 10 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :: But the species is called '''legendary''', despite it isn't a legendary, so it is kind of a pseudo..., isn't it? And it has the highest sum of base-stats of all non-legendary under 600... So there would be good reasons to call it a pseudo-legendary. And by the way, if you search for the [[Powerhouse]]-Article you are redirected to this article, so either there is a need for a own article for the fanterm Powerhouse or Arcanine is truly a pseudo. --[[User:Blablubbb|Blablubbb]] 06:58, 17 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 600 stat point total a requirement? ==<br /> <br /> Doesn't that seem a little subjective? I mean sure they all have that but that doesn't mean a future Pokemon of similar psuedo-legend status will have that total. Plus with these Pokemon it could just be coincidence they all have 600. Having 600 total might have been how it happened for all of them, but I just don't seem it as a ''requirement'' per se. Just that that's how it happened. Toastypk 03:34, 15 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Not really. The psuedo-legends were most likely designed so that their stats WOULD total 600. The only likely exception would be Dragonite due to Special Attack/Defence being a single stat in Generation 1, but it was probably reworked to total 600 in Generation 2. It's hardly likely to be coincedence that their base stats all total 600. - [[User:Nebula|Nebula]] 16:54, 27 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> Hmm... well I've never paid attention to stat totals anyway, just relative strengths. Toastypk<br /> ::As I said above a base stat total of 600 is a requirement, not a coindidence. It is why they are called pseudo-legendaries, as many legendary pokemon have a bst of 600.--[[User:Hyurnat4|Hyurnat4]] 08:54, 11 November 2009 (UTC)--[[User:Hyurnat4|Hyurnat4]] 08:55, 11 November 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Is it worth mentioning that Tyranitar, as of gen IV, technically has a total stats of 650?? (Due to its sand stream ability and the fact that Rock types get a x1.5 boost in S.Def in a sandstorm???) I know its not its true &quot;Base&quot; stats as such but even so I feel it should be mentioned [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 12:59, 5 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::Nebula, the psuedo-legends were not designed so that their stats would total 600, in fact psuedo-legends at all were not designed, it is just a made up term? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 03:16, 10 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> =={{p|Lucario}}==<br /> Couldn't Lucario fit the pseudo-legendary description? [[User:Shadow1337|Shadow1337]] 23:37, 25 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> :how? its nothing like a Pseudo in any way. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;MAG&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#696969;&quot;&gt;NE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;DETH&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 23:42, 25 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::Well, for one thing pseudo-legendary ''by definition'' means false legendary. Lucario was once thought to be a legendary and has very similar stats. It even has higher stats than some of the legendaries.[[User:Shadow1337|Shadow1337]] 00:23, 26 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> Pseudo-legendary is a term used to refer to any Pokémon that has a three-stage evolution line, <br /> two types, as well as a base stat total of 600. <br /> :::so, does Lucario fit any of those criteria? One. he has two-types. 1/3 doesnt cut it here. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;MAG&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#696969;&quot;&gt;NE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;DETH&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 00:40, 26 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::::But if Lucario ever gets an evolution, its evolution could possibly be a pseudo-legendary. &lt;sup&gt;&lt;big&gt;[[user:chocolate|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6D351A;&quot;&gt;Cho&lt;/span&gt;]][[user talk:chocolate|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6D351A;&quot;&gt;col&lt;/span&gt;]][[special:contributions/chocolate|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6D351A;&quot;&gt;ate&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sup&gt; 00:45, 26 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::::No, it won't. Riolu is a baby pokemon evolves from happiness, which will likely separate it. Lucario won't get an evolution because it has too varied a moveset and too high stats.--[[User:Hyurnat4|Hyurnat4]] 08:58, 11 November 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::That's true.[[User:Shadow1337|Shadow1337]] 00:46, 26 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::::::not that it wont ever happen, but be rational. do you think Lucario will seriously get an evo? rationally, no. therefor, it is not (currently) a Pseudo-legendary. btw Chocolate, id appreciate it if you didnt edit my comments. if i wanted it like that, id have made it like that in the first place. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;MAG&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#696969;&quot;&gt;NE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;DETH&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 00:55, 26 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::::::What's more, speculating on whether an evolution of a Pokémon would be pseudo-legendary is hardly a good argument for calling Lucario one. [[User:GlinnMgraw|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;Glinn&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;Mgraw&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:21, 26 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::I consider Lucario a semi-legendary Pokémon. A few others i put in the group are Pokémon like Arcanine, Unown, Rotom, etc. --'''[[User:InuMimi|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#CC99CC&quot;&gt;いぬ&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:InuMimi|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#CCCCCC&quot;&gt;みみ&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 23:14, 26 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::they have legendary traits, but they are not legendaries. and far from pseudo-legendaries. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;MAG&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#696969;&quot;&gt;NE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;DETH&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 23:20, 26 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::::::That's why I call them semi-legendaries; meaning they are kind of legendary. --'''[[User:InuMimi|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#CC99CC&quot;&gt;いぬ&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:InuMimi|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#CCCCCC&quot;&gt;みみ&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 23:23, 26 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == [[Slaking (Pokémon)]] ==<br /> Why is Slaking not a Psuedo? [[User:DragonTamer|DragonTamer]] 04:53, 2 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Oohh, It's not dual type, [[User:DragonTamer|DragonTamer]] 04:55, 2 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Inbalance ==<br /> <br /> Too much trivia? Too little article? Can someone with experience in competitive gameplay edit it so that the trivia is not longer than the actual article? '''[[User:Optimatum|&lt;span class=&quot;explain&quot; title=&quot;Optimus35&quot;&gt;&lt;sc&gt;Θρtιmαtum♏&lt;/sc&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]&lt;/sub&gt; 12:30, 3 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New table ==<br /> '''Here:'''<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #272727; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 5px solid #525252&quot;<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{cynthia color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px;&quot; | {{color2|272727|Generation I}}<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{cynthia color light}}&quot; | {{color2|272727|Generation II}}<br /> ! colspan=&quot;4&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{cynthia color light}}&quot; | {{color2|272727|Generation III}}<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{cynthia color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topright: 5px;&quot;| {{color2|272727|Generation IV}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{kanto color light}}&quot; | [[Image:149.png]]&lt;br&gt;'''{{pcolor|Dragonite|{{kanto color dark}}}}'''<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{johto color light}}&quot; | [[Image:248.png]]&lt;br&gt;'''{{pcolor|Tyranitar|{{johto color dark}}}}'''<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{hoenn color light}}&quot; | [[Image:373.png]]&lt;br&gt;'''{{pcolor|Salamence|{{hoenn color dark}}}}'''<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{colo color light}}&quot; | [[Image:376.png]]&lt;br&gt;'''{{pcolor|Metagross|{{colo color dark}}}}'''<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{sinnoh color light}}&quot; | [[Image:445.png]]&lt;br&gt;'''{{pcolor|Garchomp|{{sinnoh color dark}}}}'''<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;font-size: 90%;&quot;<br /> | style=&quot;background:#{{dragon color}}&quot; | {{typecolor|Dragon}}<br /> | style=&quot;background:#{{flying color}}&quot; | {{typecolor|Flying}}<br /> | style=&quot;background:#{{rock color}}&quot; | {{typecolor|Rock}}<br /> | style=&quot;background:#{{dark color}}&quot; | {{typecolor|Dark}}<br /> | style=&quot;background:#{{dragon color}}&quot; | {{typecolor|Dragon}}<br /> | style=&quot;background:#{{flying color}}&quot; | {{typecolor|Flying}}<br /> | style=&quot;background:#{{steel color}}&quot; | {{typecolor|Steel}}<br /> | style=&quot;background:#{{psychic color}}&quot; | {{typecolor|Psychic}}<br /> | style=&quot;background:#{{dragon color}}&quot; | {{typecolor|Dragon}}<br /> | style=&quot;background:#{{ground color}}&quot; | {{typecolor|Ground}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> ! 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colspan=&quot;10&quot; align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{cynthia color light}}&quot; | {{color|272727|Evolves from}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{kanto color light}}&quot; | [[Image:147.png]]&lt;br&gt;{{pcolor|Dratini|{{kanto color dark}}}}<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{johto color light}}&quot; | [[Image:246.png]]&lt;br&gt;{{pcolor|Larvitar|{{johto color dark}}}}<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{hoenn color light}}&quot; | [[Image:371.png]]&lt;br&gt;{{pcolor|Bagon|{{hoenn color dark}}}}<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{colo color light}}&quot; | [[Image:374.png]]&lt;br&gt;{{pcolor|Beldum|{{colo color dark}}}}<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{sinnoh color light}}&quot; | [[Image:443.png]]&lt;br&gt;{{pcolor|Gible|{{sinnoh color dark}}}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;font-size: 90%;&quot;<br /> | style=&quot;background:#{{dragon color}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 5px;&quot; colspan=&quot;2&quot; | {{typecolor|Dragon}}<br /> | style=&quot;background:#{{rock color}}&quot; | {{typecolor|Rock}}<br /> | style=&quot;background:#{{ground color}}&quot; | {{typecolor|Ground}}<br /> | style=&quot;background:#{{dragon color}}&quot; colspan=&quot;2&quot; | {{typecolor|Dragon}}<br /> | style=&quot;background:#{{steel color}}&quot; | {{typecolor|Steel}}<br /> | style=&quot;background:#{{psychic color}}&quot; | {{typecolor|Psychic}}<br /> | style=&quot;background:#{{dragon color}}&quot; | {{typecolor|Dragon}}<br /> | style=&quot;background:#{{ground color}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 5px;&quot; | {{typecolor|Ground}}<br /> |}<br /> &lt;span style=&quot;color:#AAAAFF;&quot;&gt;&lt;sub&gt;*&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Viner Hand ITC&quot;&gt;[[User:Tc26|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520;&quot;&gt;tc&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Tc26|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520;&quot;&gt;26&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#AAAAFF;&quot;&gt;&lt;sub&gt;*&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt; 03:47, 3 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Available only as their first form. ==<br /> <br /> The article states that &quot;Most pseudo-legendaries are obtainable in the wild strictly in their first form. However, Dragonair is also obtainable in the wild in most games where Dratini is (all but Pokémon Red, Green and Blue). Likewise, Pupitar is available in the wild in Crystal. Gabite is found in Victory Road in Platinum.&quot;<br /> <br /> However, with the addition of Platinum, Gabite can be found in the wild. This means that no, only 2 out of the 5 of them are only found in their first form in the wild. I honestly don't think that something like that should be included in the article, since when was 2 out of 5 &quot;most&quot;, or even noteworthy? You could say that all 5 of them have the colour blue on them somewhere, but is that noteworthy? <br /> <br /> I'd have already removed it, but the page is protected. [[User:Ggled|Ggled]] 22:09, 8 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> :There's no blue on either Dragonite or Larvitar, thus your entire logic is flawed! Good DAY, sir! :P In all seriousness though, you raise a good point. That part of the article definitely needs to be removed. --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 04:41, 2 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Maybe he means a pokemon in the line has had the colour blue on them at some point? --[[User:Hyurnat4|Hyurnat4]] 09:01, 11 November 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Kingdra ==<br /> <br /> It doesn't fit the 600 total, (540 in case you were wondering) but it's dual type, it has 3 stages in the family, and it's at the end of the Pokedex. Sorry about bringing up another Pokemon [[User:BaconBoy|Corvy]] 12:25, 13 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Kingdra isn't a pseudo-legendary. All qualities must be met. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 20:57, 13 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Base Stat total trivia ==<br /> <br /> On all the pseudo legendaries, there is a trivia entry stating that they have the second highest base stat total behind slaking. It then goes on to say how it's tied with the other pseudo legendaries etc etc.<br /> Wouldn't it make more sense to just not have this? I mean there's already a link to the pseudo legendary page (here) at the top of the page, and it explains here that they all have the same base stat total etc. Just seems redundant to me and pointless trivia. [[User:Derian|&amp;#91;&amp;#91;Derian&amp;#93;&amp;#93;]] 14:23, 17 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Stats ==<br /> <br /> I don't know how you'd do it, but might it be useful to put stats on the final evolutions at some point.--[[User:Hyurnat4|Hyurnat4]] 09:04, 11 November 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I agree. There is a lot of talk about stats and it would be nice to scroll up and refer to the stats of each Pokemon, rather then have to do to their individual page and scroll down. :/[[User:Tro|Tro]] 07:38, 18 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Question ==<br /> <br /> Should the part about 600 stat total be changed to something like &quot;at least 600&quot;? Yes there is nothing like that now, but if in future generations something with 630 total ''does'' show up it would be better to be prepared now then argue about it when something comes up.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We are the Void 14:13, 15 November 2009 (UTC)<br /> :We'll sort that out when it happens. Bulbapedia deals with the present. Thanks anyway. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 04:42, 16 November 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::I highly doubt anyone would complain about whether or not something with above 600 counts or not... [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 14:43, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Garchomp's location in the pokedex ==<br /> <br /> Stated in the characteristics section, it says that Garchomp's evolution line is not next to any notable pokemon. However, I disagree: Before Gible is Spiritomb, a pokemon that is considered semi-legendary by fans, since it can only be caught once under special conditions in the wild. Should we reword that sentence to include this information? {{Unsigned|AuraGaurdian}}<br /> <br /> :Please remember to sign your posts with four tildes (~). [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 04:56, 21 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ash's Larvitar ==<br /> <br /> It mentions in the trivia that Ash had only one member of the pseudo-legendary line, referencing his Gible, but at one point he had a Larvitar. Shouldn't this be mentioned in the article? --~~[[User_talk:AuraGaurdian|Aura]][[Special:Contributions/AuraGaurdian|Gaurdian]] 17:44, 11 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Give the source and edit it to two. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 20:23, 11 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::It's called [[Ash's Larvitar]] by the way. The trivia is actually referencing to his Larvitar but if you wanted to figure out a way of wording it you could say,&quot;Ash is the only main character in the anime to own two different members of a pseudo-legendary family.&quot; or something along those lines. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;Master&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:MasterKenobi|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000CC&quot;&gt;Kenobi&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 20:36, 11 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::Gonna step in here quick and bring up that I think the reason why Gible is said to be Ash's only pseudo-legendary was because Larvitar was never technically ''his'', he was just temporarily taking care of it or whatnot. Its article is named as such for the sake of simplicity. &lt;span style=&quot;border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;&quot;&gt;[[User:Umeko|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF99CC;&quot;&gt;梅子&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Umeko|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF99CC;&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;❀&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF99CC;&quot;&gt;&lt;sub&gt;✿&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt; 20:41, 11 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::If that is the case then why does its article call it Ash's? Are we going to need to move the article if it wasn't Ash's? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 03:02, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::From my previous comment on the matter:<br /> ::::::''Its article is named as such'' &lt;small&gt;[ie. &quot;Ash's Larvitar&quot;]&lt;/small&gt; ''for the sake of simplicity''<br /> :::::We can't very well call the article &quot;the Larvitar that Ash took care of for about eight episodes but was never technically owned by him&quot; or something. :P &lt;span style=&quot;border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;&quot;&gt;[[User:Umeko|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF99CC;&quot;&gt;梅子&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Umeko|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF99CC;&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;❀&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF99CC;&quot;&gt;&lt;sub&gt;✿&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt; 15:30, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::::That may be true but it apparently isn't his, the page at least should not have that, Ash's current pokemon thing at the bottom or something [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 20:11, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> This discussion would better serve a purpose [[Talk:Ash's_Larvitar#Ash.27s_Larvitar|here]], so I am moving it there<br /> <br /> == Addition of Charizard ==<br /> I feel that Charizard is a pseudo-legendary. I think it should be added due to it's immense power. Feel free to respond. [[User:BrianPokemonTrainer|BrianPokemonTrainer]] 00:42, 3 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Did.... you even read the article? Charizard does '''not''' fufill any of the requirements. It's not even that strong. ._. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#e072a9;&quot;&gt;ティナ&lt;/span&gt;]]'''&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#728084;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#728084;&quot;&gt;★&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:45, 3 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Well... who decided the rules of this '''fluff''' term anyways? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 02:57, 3 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Kibago ==<br /> <br /> Isn't kibago a Pseudo-legendary--&lt;small&gt;[[User:lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:pink&quot;&gt;KayKay&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;|&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:purple&quot;&gt;Chat to me!&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 03:01, 10 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Stats don't reach +600. Ononokusu may be faster and stronger than Gyarados, but a pseudo-legendary he is not.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 03:08, 10 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Dratini==<br /> Awww, who removed part of my note in the trivia about how in the anime Dratini was specifically stated to be a legendary pokemon? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 03:18, 10 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :That's like saying Arcanine should by a Pseudo-Legendary because &quot;Legendary Pokemon&quot; is in its title.{{unsigned|Bluekirbystar}}<br /> <br /> ::No I only said it should be psuedo-legendary because the anime stated it as a legendary? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 14:01, 14 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::This page is about the Pseudo-legendary classification used by fans, especially in regards to the metagame. It does NOT refer to Pokémon which are considered legendary in in-game text or other media, despite not having the rarity or strength of typical legendaries. Why can't anyone seem to understand that? --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&lt;sup&gt;P&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;K&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;M&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;N&lt;/sub&gt;]] 15:26, 14 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::It was just a note for the trivia, trivia rarely is extremely on-topic with the rest of the article, that is why it gets posted in the trivia and not the article itself. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 16:31, 14 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::Wrong. Trivia must be &quot;on topic&quot;. You wouldn't add trivia about how Lance's Dragonite in Gen. I knew Barrier here. Similarly, your trivia would belong in the Legendary Pokémon article, or Dratini's article, but not this article. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&lt;sup&gt;P&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;K&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;M&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;N&lt;/sub&gt;]] 16:50, 14 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Wrong. I said ''extremely'' on-topic, the anime's classification of Dratini's status is ''moderately'' on-topic with a fluff term based on what the fans feel is Dratini's status. I never said trivia could be off-topic, I only said it didn't have to be ''extremely'' on-topic. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 04:21, 15 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Metagross is used in Gen V ==<br /> <br /> Metagross is used by Lady Caitlin in the Isshu Elite Four rematch. {{unsigned|Bluekirbystar}}<br /> <br /> == Ononokus ==<br /> <br /> Isn't Ononokus a psuedo-legendary? It isn't near the end of the Pokedex, but then Garchomp isn't either. [[User:Taromon777|&lt;span style=&quot;color:turquoise; font-family:Arial&quot;&gt;'''T a r o m o n'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:33, 16 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :No base stats of 600 total. End of discussion.--[[User:Dennou Zenshi|&lt;font color=&quot;#C11B17&quot;&gt;でんのう&lt;/font&gt;]] &lt;font color=&quot;#347C2C&quot;&gt;☢&lt;/font&gt; [[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|&lt;font color=&quot;#151B8D&quot;&gt;'''Z'''えんし&lt;/font&gt;]] 11:39, 16 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Ah, right. I don't normally bother looking at stats... [[User:Taromon777|&lt;span style=&quot;color:turquoise; font-family:Arial&quot;&gt;'''T a r o m o n'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 08:40, 20 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::: You should look at stats; as it is one of the best indicators of which species make a group, or are version counterparts.{{unsigned|Eriorguez}}<br /> <br /> == Two types really necessary? ==<br /> <br /> I'd say the defining feature is the 600 BST. The page, in more than one place, describes the fact that pseudolegendaries have two types as though you couldn't, even in theory, have a pseudolegendary without it, but is that so? Obviously, all the pseudos that currently exist have two types (and we should mention that fact, don't get me wrong), but wouldn't we just adjust our definition if they (hypothetically) introduced a monotype pseudo in the sixth generation? I don't think we should &quot;define&quot; a pseudo as having two types; nor should we list that as one of the reasons Slaking isn't. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 17:25, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> :Good point, don't two typers have more weaknesses usually? Not a very legendary trait... [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 03:43, 8 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ulgamoth ==<br /> <br /> This may be shot down, but SURELY Ulgamoth is a pseudo-legendary. It may lack the Base Stats and Second Evolution, but it's clearly intended to be in the same tier. Its final evolution receives the EV yield of a Third-Stage pokemon, it comes right after Sazandorah, just like how Salamence and Metagross are placed next to each other (Garchomp was separated from legendaries by Evolutions from previous gens). It has significant mythology connected to it, and is obtained in peculiar ways, one of which is fashioned like a Legendary Encounter. It evolves at a ridiculously high level. Hell, the concept itself is that of something that would have a cocoon stage, but missed out on it somehow. The 550 Base Stat is peculiar, but surely can be put down to it having Butterfly Dance, an obscenely powerful move. Pretty much everything points it to being a counterpart with Sazandorah as the two pseudo-legendaries of Generation 5. [[User:N-Denizen|N-Denizen]] 23:30, 9 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> :Nope, needs to have the stats and isn't a {{type|Dragon}}. {{p|Haxorus}} isn't considered Pseudo-legendary because of stats and it IS a {{t|Dragon}}. --[[User:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma;background:black&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;red&quot;&gt;'''Land'''&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma;background:black&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;yellow&quot;&gt;'''fish7'''&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 23:34, 9 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> ::{{p|Tyranitar|They don't have to be a Dragon}} {{p|Metagross|to be considered pseudo-legendary}}. But yeah, Ulgamoth has the wrong stats and it only has two stages. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#33CC66;&quot;&gt;'''ケンジ'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6600CC;&quot;&gt;'''の'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF00CC;&quot;&gt;'''ガール'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 00:40, 10 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> :::Thanks for the clarification User Kenji-girl. --[[User:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma;background:black&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;red&quot;&gt;'''Land'''&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma;background:black&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;yellow&quot;&gt;'''fish7'''&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 23:33, 10 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> :I would agree on Volcarona being intended to be something special, but not the same thing as pseudo-legends. It is something new and different, even if similar. [[User:Eriorguez|Eriorguez]] 13:55, 24 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> ::The only problem I see then is that it's left in a weird limbo. It's not a &quot;legendary&quot; because it can breed, and despite being a Champion's ace, apparently not a pseudo-legendary. I think it's significant enough to classified as something surely. [[User:N-Denizen|N-Denizen]] 20:12, 12 March 2011 (UTC)<br /> :::I would like to disagree with everyone that opposes Volcarona as a Pseudo-Legendary. Just have a look at nearly every other Bug type that came before it for instance, and you'll notice that ALL tend to have stats below 400 or very rarely reaching 500 or higher. In nearly all games before B/W it was almost like a rule or some sort, or a tradition. Perhaps Volcarona lives up to this tradition even with B/W's upgrade to Bug types. As a Bug type, it would not be able to have as high of stats as other types if it followed this old tradition, so that would explain Volcarona's BST of 550 instead of 600. Another possible explaination is probably just an excuse to make it have a lower BST than Genesect. The big seal to all this is that Alder uses Volcarona as his main Pokemon. Why would it be used as his main if it wasn't a Pseudo-Legendary? Why just have something random instead of a Psuedo-legendary or even a Legendary? It all starts to make sense when you think about it. Volcarona, though having a lower BST than the other Pseudo-Legends, still has the exact same kind of power you'd expect from one due to it's gargantuan stats compared to other Bug types. Even Genesect feels very weak in comparison to Volcarona, as well as giving Tyranitar and Metagross something to fear and respect at the same time. So the point of all of this is, it would seem reasonable to accept Volcarona as a Pseudo-Legend due to past treatment of Bug types in general. Besides, doesn't it seem more like a fan idea to have them required to have a BST of 600 and be a 3 stage line? What if GF has their own requirements to the idea and simply design them as they please? For a Bug type to fill this role, all of this would make alot of sense. Why simply believe a Pseudo-Legend requires those things only because of past tradition from Gen I-IV? Wouldn't it be fair for a Bug type Pseudo-Legend to exist yet still follow the tradition of Bug types having lower Base stats than others? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 20:36, 6 August 2011 (UTC)<br /> ::::Pseudo-legendary is a fan term, so fans determine the requirements. It is based on a pattern we as fans have detected in each generation? Being &quot;strong&quot; has nothing to do with being pseudo-legendary (other than that pseudo-legendary requires a 600 BST). Champion usage does not make something pseudo-legendary, even if it is their primary Pokémon. Alder doesn't use a legendary Pokémon because they are restricted to battle facility Trainers and storyline events. They did not fit it into their previous pattern. Anything that breaks the mold is not bending the pattern, but rejecting it. What does Volcarona have in common with actual pseudo-legendary Pokémon? If we let Volcarona in, then the definition of pseudo-legendary becomes &quot;has two types, needs 1,250,000 exp to get to level 100&quot;. Now, if you look at {{cat|Pokémon in the Slow experience group|this list of Pokémon in that experience group}} and pick out all the dual typed Pokémon, excluding legendary Pokémon, you can see just how many there are. To name a few, {{p|Abomasnow}}, {{p|Aggron}}, {{p|Sharpedo}}, {{p|Lanturn}}. And that is only a few of them. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:49, 7 August 2011 (UTC)<br /> :::::Now you're being just biased about all this. Why do they all need BSTs of 600? Can't Volcarona be the exception due to it's Bug typing? Even if Dual typed and Slow exp group were the only requirements now, it would all still be the same, since Volcarona would be the only Pseudo-Legend that doesn't fill the previous 600 BST requirement. All you seem to be trying to do is sticking too much to tradition, because honestly, I thought you'd stick with the 1st to 4th gen's Pseudo-Legend tradition of Attack being the highest stat when it was revealed Hydreigon's highest was Special Attack instead. Due to that, I thought everybody would be biased with even it due to favoring Special Attack instead. Volcarona, when compared to Aggron of Flygon, makes far more sense as a Pseudo-Legendary. Honestly, I think of Pseudo-Legendaries having the highest BST of all non-legendaries out of one of their types. Dragonite, Salamence, Garchomp, and Hydreigon have the highest Base Stat total of all non-legendary Dragon types, Tyranitar has the highest of all Non-legendary Rock types, and the highest for Dark types along with Hydreigon. Metagross has the highest out of all Non-legendary Steel and Psychic types. Volcarona has the highest of all Non-legendary Bug types. It all makes sense when you consider how a Pseudo-Legendary could be designed with that in mind. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 21:56, 7 August 2011 (UTC)<br /> ::::::In other words, think of it this way:<br /> <br /> ::::::-Non-legendary.<br /> ::::::-Evolves atleast once.<br /> ::::::-Highest Base Stat total of atleast one of their types.<br /> ::::::-Dual typed.<br /> ::::::-Slow Experience group.<br /> <br /> ::::::With this in mind, ONLY Dragonite, Tyranitar, Salamence, Metagross, Garchomp, Hydreigon, and Volcarona fit all four of these requirements. Arcanine and Slaking don't have two types, and Archeops isn't in the right Exp group and isn't the highest of either of it's types. So there you have it, problem solved. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 22:18, 7 August 2011 (UTC)<br /> :::::::So what you're saying is that we should change the currently accepted definition of Pseudo-legendary just because you want Volcarona to be one. Not gonna happen.<br /> <br /> :::::::Besides, Ghetsis is the last opponent in the story, and he uses a Hydreigon, but not a Volcarona. Not that final opponent usage matters, as Tyranitar was first used by Blue in FR/LG and was still considered a Pseudo-legendary in Gen II. - [[User:Blazios|&lt;span style=&quot;color:navy&quot;&gt;Blazios&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User Talk:Blazios|&lt;span style=&quot;color:limegreen&quot;&gt;&lt;sub&gt;talk&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 09:29, 8 August 2011 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::ALDER is the last, not Ghetsis man. ALDER uses VOLCARONA, not Hydreigon. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 17:15, 8 August 2011 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::The ''main story'' ends with Ghetsis, not Alder. Alder is postgame. - [[User:Blazios|&lt;span style=&quot;color:navy&quot;&gt;Blazios&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User Talk:Blazios|&lt;span style=&quot;color:limegreen&quot;&gt;&lt;sub&gt;talk&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 17:56, 8 August 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == METAGROSS ==<br /> <br /> In BW you can find wild Metang and metagross in Giant Casm. So it is'nt really a Pseudo-Legandary. --[[User:Nazirbashir|Nazirbashir]] 11:04, 7 May 2011 (UTC)<br /> :And you can find wild Dragonair and Dragonite near the Dragonsprial Tower. What does not being found in the wild have to do with being a pseudo legendary? --[[Tracey Sketchit|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#33CC66;&quot;&gt;'''ケンジ'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6600CC;&quot;&gt;'''の'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF00CC;&quot;&gt;'''ガール'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:13, 7 May 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Did anyone mention... ==<br /> that ALL Pseudo-Legendaries have immunities? It's true you know.<br /> :It was in the trivia section, I swear...must've been removed for some reason (wtf deletionists) [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 09:08, 19 July 2011 (UTC)<br /> : : Kind of pointless to mention because they are not the only one with immunities. Lots of Pokemon have immunities to one type or another. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]]<br /> <br /> == Coincidences. ==<br /> <br /> Didn't want to start an edit war, so I'm just going to post here to see what others think. So far as i know, and as far as I believe the fandom is concerned, the only defining traits of a pseudo legend are that they have a base stat total of 600 and that they evolve. I myself was unaware that they all need 1.25 million experience points to hit level 100. Does anyone else think that that fact in the definition in the opening paragraph is extraneous? [[User:RB Golbat|RB Golbat]] 15:20, 1 December 2011 (UTC)<br /> :Simply put, no. Espially if all six of them have that trait. [[User:Truthseeker4449|Truth]][[User talk:Truthseeker4449|seeker]][[Special:Contributions/Truthseeker4449|4449]] 02:05, 5 December 2011 (UTC)<br /> ::Let's face it, you ask anyone who plays Pokemon, and they'll give you the 600 BST Evolution definition. Did Nintendo give them all the same amount of experience at level 100 on purpose? Probably. Is that how people define Pseudo Legendary? No. And since this page is a fan definition, then it should use what most people refer to it as. [[User:RB Golbat|RB Golbat]] 02:15, 5 December 2011 (UTC)<br /> :::Many Pokémon need 1.25 Million exp to get to level 100, but they're not classed as Pseudo legendary (for obvius reasons such as Base stat=/=600). So I agree with RB, remove it.--[[User:Force Fire|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#444444&quot;&gt;'''F'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Reshiram (Pokémon)|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#858585&quot;&gt;orce&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Force Fire|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C3C3C3&quot;&gt;'''F'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Zekrom (Pokémon)|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#D8D8D8&quot;&gt;ire&lt;/span&gt;]] 02:22, 5 December 2011 (UTC)<br /> ::::It's been a week since I last asked, and it's a 1-1 split by people who aren't me. So here is a one week bump to try to solicit opinions, before seeing that no one else cares and changing it back to the way i changed it. [[User:RB Golbat|RB Golbat]] 14:50, 11 December 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Slaking ==<br /> <br /> I am aware that an argument has already been brought up to add Slaking to the list. I think it should be added, for the following reasons. From what I understand, the definition here of a Pseudo-Legendary is (a) it can't be legendary. (b) It must evolve twice. It is not part of the definition that all of them must be dual typed, nor that they must have an immunity. This is simply a trait that all of the current members of the list happen to share. The third part of the current definition is that all of them must have exactly 600 BST. This is the part I don't understand. I can understand why it would be nice to have a requirement for at least 600, but why does it have to be exact? This brings us to Slaking. It has the highest base stats of any non-legendary. It evolves twice. Why should it be denied the position of being pseudo-legendary for being too powerful? Pseudo-legendary means &quot;resembling a legendary&quot;, and legendaries are supposed to be powerful. There are 16 legendaries with a BST over 600, and 11 even higher than Slaking's. In terms of its lack of a second type, 22 out of 47 legendaries are single-typed. Slaking's lack of a second type definitely should not exclude it from being a pseudo-legendary. [[User:Tk3141|Tk3141]] 22:19, 7 March 2012 (UTC)<br /> :''Slaking, though not pseudo-legendary, has the highest base stats of all non-legendary Pokémon and one immunity, to the Ghost-type. However, it lacks some factors: a base-stat total of 600 and a secondary type. Slaking is also hindered by its ability, Truant, which is likely the reason for its high stats. '' From this page. However I would say the biggest reason it is not on here is because Truant truly cripples any astounding power it has. The only time to experience its true full potential is in a double battle with a Pokemon that uses Skill Swap on it so it can attack every turn rather than half the turns. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|&lt;span style=&quot;color:teal&quot;&gt;Frozen&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|&lt;span style=&quot;color:green&quot;&gt;Fennec&lt;/span&gt;]]'' 22:24, 7 March 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::As I mentioned above, however, I don't think that a secondary type or an exact BST should be part of the definition. Yes, Truant does cripple Slaking, but it is technically speculation which says that this is the reason for its high stats. It is a non-legendary that has an even higher BST than any others on the list. [[User:Tk3141|Tk3141]] 02:22, 8 March 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::It is a fandom-defined term. This is the definition. We only report was it, not make it the way it is. The fandom says BST must equal 600, so Slaking is not pseudo-legendary. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 12:28, 8 March 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::Might we want to review this definition, though? If we want the list to consist of those who are &quot;like legendaries&quot;, we shouldn't restrict the list to dual types, as almost half of legendaries are single-typed. Similarly, less than half of legendaries have a BST of exactly 600. &quot;The fandom&quot; is, in my opinion, a vague term; it can't be that everybody agrees on the same point. [[User:Tk3141|Tk3141]] 16:22, 8 March 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::::This page is a description of a fan term which describes all Pokémon which have, thus far, followed a specific pattern. Until the fans choose to recognize a Pokémon which Game Freak has made defy the pattern, no changes to the definition should be needed.--[[User:MisterE13|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF&quot;&gt;Mister&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:MisterE13|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#008000&quot;&gt;'''E'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#800080&quot;&gt;13&lt;/span&gt;]] 00:21, 9 March 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Pseudo-legendary, while it does mean &quot;like legendary&quot;, it is not a group that includes all Pokémon that are similar to legendary Pokémon, it is a group of Pokémon that follow a certain pattern (which causes them to be powerful). &quot;The fandom&quot; refers to the general fan consensus; not everybody agrees, but most people concede to this definition. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 06:01, 9 March 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == So seriously, what's the definition? ==<br /> <br /> As I pointed out above (and nearly no one responded), if the sixth gen introduces a non-legendary Pokemon with a 600 BST with only one type will we say that it's not pseudolegendary, or will we just change the definition of what a psuedolegendary is? Why is having two types or a specific level-up curve considered a ''necessary condition'' to being a pseudolegendary rather than just a trait all of the current ones happen to have? Indeed, given that you can completely remove either restriction or both of them and not change the list of pseudolegendary Pokemon ''at all'' (you can't do so with the 600 BST or the fact that they come from evolutionary families), I'd say Occam's Razor would slice away those unnecessary conditions. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 07:09, 29 May 2012 (UTC)<br /> : PS. I'd like to point out that the opening paragraph used to mention that all pseudos had Attack as their highest stat, though it wisely did not include that as a part of the definition of what makes a pseudo a pseudo. [[Hydreigon|Now it doesn't say that any more.]] Just sayin'. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 07:26, 29 May 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::The pseudolegendaries are variations on a theme. The dual types and stats are part of that theme. Single type would suggest that there's an underlying difference. Experience group makes them hard to raise, suggesting that they're all very similar. Like PP of moves, experience group is an indicator of the similarity of Pokemon. If Nintendo feel the need to make it a lower experience group, that makes it easier to raise, suggesting that there are underlying differences - the Pokemon are not considered equal. Stats like that aren't just a random choice. &lt;span class=&quot;sc&quot;&gt;[[User:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2D4B98;&quot;&gt;Werdnae&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009000;&quot;&gt;(talk)&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 20:01, 29 May 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::I can't say I agree. We can say that the two types and the level-up curve are traits they all have, at present, but how is it part of the definition? If you remove those restrictions, the number of pseudolegendary Pokemon remains six, so those restrictions aren't helping with the definition and just unnecessarily restrict possible future psuedolegendaries. I was asked to provide a source that they're not necessary. Where's the source that they are? I mean, let's say, totally hypothetically, that one made a page called &quot;Pikachu Clones&quot; back in the fourth gen, discussing Pokemon such as Pichu, Plusle, Minun, and Pachirisu. (The usefulness of such a page isn't the point; let's just say that one existed.) At the time, they decided to define the Pokemon as &quot;Cute mono-Electric-type Pokemon that have a resemblence to Pikachu. Aside from Pichu and Pikachu, none of the Pikachu clones evolve.&quot; Are you to say that, when the fifth gen came out, this hypothetical page would have been wrong to alter its definition and include Emolga? If so, why? And if not, then why did the definition need to include the &quot;mono-&quot; part of it at all if it's unnecessarily limiting and so easily discarded? --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 20:57, 29 May 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::I personally don't think having two types should be part of the definition; I don't see a pure Dragon-type pseudo legendary Pokemon being that unlikely. I did a quick search, and I couldn't find any other non-forum giving a definition of pseudo-legendary Pokemon, so there is nothing stating either way. However, I would say experience group is just as important as BST. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 12:42, 1 June 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::::No, I still stand against it. I'm being treated like I'm trying to redefine which Pokemon are pseudolegendary, and, yes, I do see that others have tried. But I'm not. Removing these two restrictions does nothing. It's Dragonite, Tyranitar, Salamence, Metagross, Garchomp, and Hydreigon now. It'll be Dragonite, Tyranitar, Salamence, Metagross, Garchomp, and Hydreigon if you remove those restrictions.<br /> :::::Who made the call that they're necessary to the definition? I've been asked to source that they're not. Why must I prove the negative? It's the positive case that requires proof! Should I add a [citation needed] to the definition?<br /> :::::If you were to remove the 600 BST part of the defintion, and still keep everything else, you'd add things like Aggron and Rhyperior to the list, so we can't do that.<br /> :::::The &quot;three-stage evolutionary family&quot; thing comes off to me as a roundabout way of saying &quot;not legendary&quot;, but I'm fine with it since legendary status can be arguable (the Legendary page on this very wiki is unsure on Phione, and even though I strongly disagree, I've even seen modern fans try to argue Rotom's legendary status.) And without it, Jirachi and Landorus are brought into the list of &quot;pseudolegendaries&quot;, so obviously that restriction is necessary, regardless of the wording.<br /> :::::But why type combos? Why experience groups? Removing them changes what? Is there a 600-BST three-stage mono-type family in the medium-slow group that is clearly not pseudolegendary I'm somehow unfamiliar with? (Well, Slaking has a 6'''7'''0 BST and three stages and is a monotype, though he is in the Slow group, but... Truant is all it takes to convince me he's not a proper pseudolegendary. And he's the closest there is, besides the obvious six!)<br /> :::::As I said, if you were to put on the side (in Trivia or something) that all of them, at present, are dualtypes in the Slow experience group, you wouldn't see me argue - it's true, after all. But to put it in the definition, as if to say &quot;Pokémon without these traits can't be pseudolegendary&quot;... I jusst don't see it. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 18:31, 1 June 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Thing is, pseudo-legendary is the observation of a pattern and nothing more. When they all fit it and it is likely that they will continue fitting a condition, it should be treated as part of the definition. No, removing the experience group condition does not remove anything, but that condition is really for restricting what we may get next generation. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 15:02, 2 June 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Next generation, if we get a Pokemon with a BST of 600 who is at the top of a three-stage evolution family in the medium-slow experience group instead of slow, and it doesn't have any major negative traits like Truant, do you really think the fandom isn't going to call it a pseudo-legendary? Do you honestly believe most of the fandom - who defined the term - even cares about experience curves that much? And can you provide a source on it? --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 22:41, 2 June 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::There is no source (BP was the only fansite I could find that actually defined pseudo-legendary outside of &quot;means Dragonite, Tyranitar, Metagross, Garchomp, Hydreigon&quot;), because GF has never officially mentioned the pattern anywhere, but the pattern is obvious enough that the fandom has noticed it. Knowing the fandom—who tried and push Volcarona and Haxorus into being pseudo-legendary—there will certainly be many people who think it should be. However, it won't truly be one. I don't see that ever happening though, as experience group is part of the pattern. Even if something had a BST of 600, three-stage evolutionary family and medium-slow experience group but had Truant, it would still be pseudo-legendary. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 15:18, 5 June 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::Isn't that a contradiction? (Did you get your experience groups confused?) And if something can be pseudolegendary with Truant, then Slaking should definitely count, since his stats are way higher than the existing pseudolegendaries (NOTE: I do not consider Slaking a pseudolegendary, I'm just saying that the logic doesn't flow.) --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 18:21, 6 June 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::Truant is irrelevant; its BST is not 600, so it does not fit the pattern. And yes, I meant slow experience group (I meant to check that before I saved). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 12:31, 7 June 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::I would argue that, though it's not a very specific or encyclopedic definition, a pseudo-legendary Pokemon would be a non-legendary Pokemon as strong, stat-wise, as legendaries. By that simple definition, Slaking easily fits the bill... or, rather, he would, except Truant limits his strength. (Well, Regigigas is similarly hindered, but all the same...) Now that said, all pseudos that exist have 600; there's no argument here and it works to say it. But the rest of it is redundant, adds nothing to the definition, and is something we'll just have to retcon away the moment GameFreak decides to contradict it.<br /> :::::::::::BTW, Does ''anyone else at all'' have any input? Anyone? I've notived that a lot of Bulbapedia discussions go nowhere fast; at best, they wind up arguments between two or three users, like, say, this one. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 22:59, 8 June 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::If you ask any fan what they define psuedo legendary as, they would say a three stage evolution line with a 600 BST in the final stage. Two types and experience are not what you would get with most fans definition. Since this is a fandom term, we should use the definition most fans use. [[User:RB Golbat|RB Golbat]] ([[User talk:RB Golbat|talk]]) 21:47, 25 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::::Pesudo-legendary is a fan term to describe an intentional pattern. Experience group is part of this part of the pattern. Therefore, it should be considered part of the definition. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 03:06, 26 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::::It's part of the &quot;pattern&quot; that people only learn about when they read this page. Regardless of if it's a pattern or not, it's not what the fandom defined definition is. [[User:RB Golbat|RB Golbat]] ([[User talk:RB Golbat|talk]]) 03:15, 26 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> (unindenting) [http://www.smogon.com/smog/issue21/best_of_best Here is one example] of the term being define without the dual typing or the experience mentioned. I'm sure I can find more online later when not at work. [[User:RB Golbat|RB Golbat]] ([[User talk:RB Golbat|talk]]) 10:47, 26 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Champion Iris with Hydreigon ==<br /> <br /> You should add that. [[User:Chomper4|Chomper4]] ([[User talk:Chomper4|talk]]) 00:36, 13 July 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pseudo-Pseudo-Legendary ==<br /> <br /> Maybe we should have a pseudo-pseudo legendary page or section for all the almost pseudo-legendary pokemon (That don't quite fit the requirements but are still considered near-legendary pokemon. This is just after reading the whole talk page about the controversy... {{unsigned|Yor2cool}}<br /> :That would result in debates over what counts as almost fitting the category. The definition debates all assume the same Pokémon as already part of the group. There are no Pokémon that are debatably pseudo-legendary Pokémon. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 12:49, 24 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Something unique about Metagross ==<br /> <br /> Should it be noted that Metagross is the only Pseudo who doesn't resist, but in fact has a weakness to, fire? [[User:DragonMasterNeal|DragonMasterNeal]] ([[User talk:DragonMasterNeal|talk]]) 19:10, 24 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ability capitalization ==<br /> <br /> A user with permission could change &quot;ability&quot; to &quot;Ability&quot; in the Tyranitar section. [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 19:01, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Seriously? ==<br /> <br /> Why is this page protected? I wanted to add something to Others. [[User:Stickipedia|Stickipedia]] ([[User talk:Stickipedia|talk]]) 21:51, 16 May 2013 (UTC)<br /> :As the protection log notes: &quot;''As this is a subject of constant debate, editing is restricted. Requests can be made on the talk page.''&quot; - [[User:Kogoro|'''&lt;span class=&quot;sc&quot; style=&quot;color:#DA70D6;&quot;&gt;Kogoro&lt;/span&gt;''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''&lt;span class=&quot;sc&quot; style=&quot;color:#FFB6C1;&quot;&gt;Talk to me&lt;/span&gt;''']] - 21:57, 16 May 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Tyranitar as main Pokemon of an NPC trainer ==<br /> <br /> * &quot;Only pseudo-legendary Pokémon that is not the main Pokémon of a major boss at the end of the game it was introduced in. However, Tyranitar was used by Blue in Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions, but only in his rematch.&quot;<br /> <br /> Tyranitar (as a [[Shadow Pokémon]]) was also [[Evice]]'s main Pokémon, in the final battle of [[Pokémon Colosseum]]. I think this is an interesting addition we can make to that note. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 05:18, 18 June 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Minor RFEs ==<br /> <br /> Playing the Grammar Nazi card....<br /> <br /> Under the Metagross section, there is this line:<br /> <br /> :&quot;This is likely why Metagross is the only pseudo-legendary Pokémon not to be used by Lance in any game, as he prefers Dragon-type and '''draconian''' Pokémon.&quot;<br /> <br /> The correct word is ''draconic''; the word 'draconian' means '[http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/draconian severely harsh or strict]'.<br /> <br /> And under Garchomp's section:<br /> <br /> :&quot;It '''compliments''' these attributes with '''it's''' Ground typing,&quot;<br /> <br /> Wrong 'its', no apostrophe required. And it should probably use compl'''e'''ment instead of compl'''i'''ment.<br /> <br /> --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 05:29, 18 June 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Use by gym leaders ==<br /> <br /> Should we add some of the gym leaders (in their various types of rematches and the PWT) as users of the pseudo-legendaries, and possibly the Elite Four? For example, Brock with Tyranitar and Giovanni and Clair with Garchomp. --[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 01:28, 1 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pokémon Pages ==<br /> I'm bringing this up here because it seems silly to go to each individual page to say it...<br /> Should the Pokémon's actual pages really say that they're &quot;pseudo-legendary Pokémon&quot; up at the top? I mean, by definition it is a '''fan term''', so I don't think it belongs there with their typing and evolutionary patterns. Maybe in their trivia sections, but not there. It looks very unprofessional to stick a fan-term at the top of the pages of these Pokémon, otherwise you might as well change Snivy's opening text to &quot;Snivy (fannon: Smugleaf)&quot;. It's just as ridiculous. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 14:11, 26 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> Actually, a better comparison would be changing all of Eevee's evolutionary family pages to say &quot;X is a Y-type Eeveelution&quot;. What I'm saying is, I don't think fan terminology belongs there. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 14:14, 26 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Eeveelution has actually became canon term (first used in [http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/8/8c/Pok%C3%A9mon_Stadium_2_-_Nintendo_Player%27s_Guide_p120.jpg Stadium 2 guide], then later in TCG Theme Deck... plus in-game in Shadows of Almia). [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 14:22, 26 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::Fine, make that edit then, but that's not my point. &quot;Pseudo-legendary&quot; is not an official term, its a fan term. This is not Smogon, this is an encyclopaedia. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 14:08, 27 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Edit request ==<br /> <br /> Since this page seems to be under indefinite protection, I'm forced to request here instead of waiting out the protection. There are three instances of the word '''typing''' being incorrectly used as a noun, which you can find by CTRL+F. Can these please be changed to simply '''type'''? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:43, 28 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Metagross in Gen III ==<br /> <br /> I think it is worth mentioning that Metagross is the only pseudo-legendary that cannot be obtain in the generation it was released in, before defeating the elite four. [[User:Benjabby|Benjabby]] ([[User talk:Benjabby|talk]]) 10:19, 15 August 2013 (UTC)<br /> :The same goes for Tyranitar.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|&lt;font color=&quot;#AB0909&quot;&gt;電&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#063A73&quot;&gt;禅&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|&lt;font color=&quot;#fff&quot; face=&quot;Tahoma&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml&quot;&gt;Den Zen&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;''' 10:24, 15 August 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Trivia ==<br /> <br /> Should it be added that only [[Tyranitar]] and [[Metagross]] aren't partially dragon-type? [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 20:23, 24 August 2013 (UTC)<br /> :[[Pseudo-legendary Pokémon#Other|It is there.]]--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|&lt;font color=&quot;#AB0909&quot;&gt;電&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#063A73&quot;&gt;禅&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|&lt;font color=&quot;#fff&quot; face=&quot;Tahoma&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml&quot;&gt;Den Zen&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;''' 20:48, 24 August 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Goodra ==<br /> <br /> So, if Goodra is to be included, it would mean A) Goodra is the first pure type, B) Goodra has the highest Sp.Def./the only 1 with Sp.Def. its highest stat/has the lowest Att. C) Dragonite is no longer the only pseudo portrayed as friendly, D) Hydreigon is no longer the only pseudo with a type immunity via ability (Goodra's Sap Sipper), E) Goodra is the only pseudo who is not necessarily immune to a type (since it has 2 other abilities), F) Goodra is the only pseudo with additional evolutionary conditions, G) Goodra is the only pseudo whose mid-stage is available in its debut games. Anything else? --[[User:Mr. Bonding|Mr. Bonding]] ([[User talk:Mr. Bonding|talk]]) 01:34, 25 October 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> &lt;blockquote&gt; &quot;Dragonite is no longer the only pseudo portrayed as friendly&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt; <br /> :Wait what? I'm going to need explanation for this one. [[User:Benjabby|Benjabby]] ([[User talk:Benjabby|talk]]) 20:00, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::Dragonite-Guides crews of shipwrecks to shore, kindhearted. Goodra-Hugs trainer. [[User:RespectThePixel|RespectThePixel]] ([[User talk:RespectThePixel|talk]]) 00:51, 11 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == There are seven pseudo-legendaries now ==<br /> <br /> enough said. ~--[[User:Dapianoman|Dapianoman]] ([[User talk:Dapianoman|talk]]) 01:45, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Users ==<br /> <br /> Goodra is also used by Shauna in X&amp;Y. Just a small thing that I would add if I could :L [[User:Benjabby|Benjabby]] ([[User talk:Benjabby|talk]]) 19:44, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> :It's already in the article. --&lt;b&gt;[[User:S2daam|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F85888&quot;&gt;--s&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F8D030&quot;&gt;a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6890F0&quot;&gt;m&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#98D8D8&quot;&gt;m :D&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/b&gt; 19:55, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Goodra Description ==<br /> <br /> Shall I make the description for Goodra or is someone else assigned to it? [[User:RespectThePixel|RespectThePixel]] ([[User talk:RespectThePixel|talk]]) 00:55, 11 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Images for Goomy and Sligoo on the chart ==<br /> <br /> You messed it up. Goomy's image is where Sliggoo's should be and vice versa. [[User:StongRadd|StongRadd]] ([[User talk:StongRadd|talk]]) 03:01, 11 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Mega Evolutions ==<br /> <br /> Should it be noted that Tyranitar and Garchomp both receive Mega Evolutions in Gen VI?--[[User:Darkmaster|Darkmaster]] ([[User talk:Darkmaster|talk]]) 04:58, 12 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Counting error ==<br /> <br /> With the addition of Goodra, there are now seven pseudo-legendary Pokemon, not 6. pikalax 22:44, 12 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Mistaken ==<br /> <br /> Pseudo-legendary is a fanmade term, and the definition of pseudo-legendary varies from fan to fan. So why does it say Pokémon like Flygon, Aggron, Kingdra, et cetera are mistaken for pseudo-legendaries? While they may not be pseudo-legendaries in one fan's terms, Garchomp may not be pseudo-legendary in another fan's terms. [[User:Bill Gates|Bill Gates]] ([[User talk:Bill Gates|talk]]) 21:53, 22 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> :They are not pseudo-legendary by the definition agreed upon by Bulbapedia and metagame websites. Individual people who don't bother to look into things like stats may mistakenly think that &quot;pseudo-legendary&quot; is just a term that means nearly or almost legendary, when it is actually a very specific term for a very specific kind of Pokemon. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:57, 22 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::Most metagame websites don't list Goodra as pseudo-legendary. [[User:Bill Gates|Bill Gates]] ([[User talk:Bill Gates|talk]]) 17:49, 24 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::But according to Bulbapedia's description of a pseudo-legendary, and unless I am very mistaken, this wiki is indeed Bulbapedia, it is a pseudo-legendary, which is why it's on the page. ☆&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Algerian&quot;&gt;[[User:Solar Dragon|&lt;span style=&quot;color:green&quot;&gt;The&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;Solar&lt;/span&gt;]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue&quot;&gt;Dragon&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;☆ 17:51, 24 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::Bulbapedia's description is not the only description out there, and my point is no Pokémon can be &quot;mistaken&quot; for a pseudo-legendary. [[User:Bill Gates|Bill Gates]] ([[User talk:Bill Gates|talk]]) 01:14, 25 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::::Yes, but this is Bulbapedia, that is the description that Bulbapedia has settled on for what a pseudo legendary is and so that is why Goodra is on the list. There are other definitions out there with some of those other Pokémon coming into them, which is why, by Bulbapedia's definition, they are mistaken. ☆&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Algerian&quot;&gt;[[User:Solar Dragon|&lt;span style=&quot;color:green&quot;&gt;The&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;Solar&lt;/span&gt;]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue&quot;&gt;Dragon&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;☆ 22:45, 25 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Pseudo-legendary is a fan term to describe an existing pattern. Goodra fits this pattern, so it is pseudo-legendary. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 03:18, 26 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == mainly shared weakness? ==<br /> <br /> I've noticed every single pseudo-legendary has the fairy weakness besides metagross. That could be something to consider. {{unsigned|Nerdandrew}}<br /> :Sure, notable trivia if all of them had the weakness. However, &quot;All but one&quot; is not notable trivia. ☆&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Algerian&quot;&gt;[[User:Solar Dragon|&lt;span style=&quot;color:green&quot;&gt;The&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;Solar&lt;/span&gt;]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue&quot;&gt;Dragon&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;☆ 16:43, 23 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::I think it can be added to the &quot;Individual characteristics&quot; section, though.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|&lt;font color=&quot;#AB0909&quot;&gt;電&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#063A73&quot;&gt;禅&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|&lt;font color=&quot;#fff&quot; face=&quot;Tahoma&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml&quot;&gt;Den Zen&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;''' 16:51, 23 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Information about Goodra ==<br /> <br /> Can admins add information about Goodra since the page is locked, thank you and remember it is the only pseudo-legendary to have one type: Dragon (which it usually had). [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ([[User talk:Cinday123|talk]]) 04:35, 26 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == &quot;All pseudo-legendary Pokémon have appeared in the anime&quot; ==<br /> <br /> Which isn't true, now that we have Goodra with Gen VI. Alteration, maybe? -- [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 05:05, 26 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> :By the end of any given generation, all Pokemon (regardless of pseudo-legendary status) have appeared in the anime except Porygon2 and Porygon-Z, so I feel like saying that on this page is unnecessary altogether. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:12, 26 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sprites into artwork ==<br /> <br /> Can any admin turn these sprites into artwork since the page is protected. [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ([[User talk:Cinday123|talk]]) 05:21, 18 December 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Admins, since we're in Generation VI, could you turn sprites into artwork so that is my commet above. And turn Goodra's Dream World artwork into a Sugimori artwork. [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ([[User talk:Cinday123|talk]]) 05:03, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Thanks, one down, six to go, can you turn Dragonite, Tyraniter, Salamence, Metagross, Garchomp and Hydreigon's sprites into artwork? [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ([[User talk:Cinday123|talk]]) 05:33, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Only pseudo-legendary Pokémon to not have any 4× weaknesses. ==<br /> <br /> This is false. With the introduction of Goodra, Metagross is no longer the only pseudo-legendary with 4x weaknesses. Goodra has only one type, and therefore can't have any 4x weakness. I would edit this myself, but I can't. [[User:Svolur|Svolur]] ([[User talk:Svolur|talk]]) 04:23, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Error regarding Sliggoo ==<br /> <br /> &quot;Pseudo-legendary Pokémon are obtainable in the wild strictly in their first form for the first paired games of their generation.&quot; This is not true since in X/Y there are wild Sliggoo. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 12:59, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br /> :&quot;Due to having the same typing as Dragonite, Salamence differs itself by being entirely focused on attacking prowess. It's stats are high in Attack, Special Attack, and Speed, while comparatively low in both Defense stats.&quot; Please correct that &quot;it's&quot; and ban whoever wrote it. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 23:07, 22 December 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Another typo on the page: &quot;psuedo-legendary&quot;. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] ([[User talk:Raijinili|talk]]) 09:10, 26 December 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == A few changes... ==<br /> <br /> :1. (3.2.8 Other) Dragonite and Tyranitar's Special Defenses of 100 pale in comparison to Goodra's 150.<br /> :2. (3.3 Users) Last I checked, Shauna is neither an Elite 4 member nor a Champion, and so should probably be included in the second list (which, by the way, already has more than three examples, with two of them being outside of Diamond, Pearl and Platinum).<br /> :3. (4 In the anime) &quot;newly introduced&quot; should be changed to &quot;newly-introduced&quot;. <br /> Thanks. -- [[User:EnosShayrem|EnosShayrem]][[User_talk:EnosShayrem|&lt;sub&gt;talk&lt;/sub&gt;]] 02:35, 8 January 2014 (UTC)<br /> :On that last one — it's incorrect to use a hyphen after a -ly word, per AP style guidelines. I quote from the AP Stylebook 2012, page 301 of the punctuation guide, under the entry on hyphens: ''&quot;COMPOUND MODIFIERS: When a compound modifier — two or more words that express as single concept — precedes a noun, use hyphens to link all the words in the compound except the adverb very and all adverbs that end in -ly.&quot;'' [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 02:53, 8 January 2014 (UTC)<br /> ::Ah! You learn something new every day. Also, a few more things:<br /> :::4. (2 Characteristics) That second paragraph needs rewriting; I propose: &quot;The base stages of pseudo-legendary Pokémon have base stat totals of 300, while their first evolutions have base stat totals of 420, excluding Pupitar and Gabite, which have 410. In general, pseudo-legendary Pokémon have Attack as their highest stat. This is not the case with Hydreigon and Goodra, which have Special Attack and Special Defense as their highest stats, respectively.&quot;<br /> :::5. (3.2.1 Dragonite) The last sentence should be removed, what with the very affectionate, and might I add adorable, Goodra.<br /> :::6. (3.3 Users) It should be somehow mentioned that in Black and White 2's Challenge Mode, Caitlin's use of Metagross extends to her first battle.<br /> ::-- [[User:EnosShayrem|EnosShayrem]][[User_talk:EnosShayrem|&lt;sub&gt;talk&lt;/sub&gt;]] 02:55, 8 January 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Goomy line's catch rate ==<br /> <br /> It was confirmed that the Goomy line's catch rate is 20, not 45, will admins add information about the catch rates because this line and the Beldum line do not have a catch rate of 45. --[[User:Cinday123|&lt;span style=&quot;color:pink&quot;&gt;Cinday123&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;small&gt;''([[User talk:Cinday123|&lt;span style=&quot;color:lightblue&quot;&gt;Talk&lt;/span&gt;]])''&lt;/small&gt; 02:56, 22 January 2014 (UTC)<br /> :Oh sorry, we don't know the Goomy line's catch rate until the catch rates of Kalos Pokémon are from the official sources, my bad. --[[User:Cinday123|&lt;span style=&quot;color:pink&quot;&gt;Cinday123&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;small&gt;''([[User talk:Cinday123|&lt;span style=&quot;color:lightblue&quot;&gt;Talk&lt;/span&gt;]])''&lt;/small&gt; 07:08, 7 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Spelling and the Goomy line==<br /> Because Legendary Pokémon are spelled as 'legendary', could someone change it to 'Legendary' according to a user's Pokémon Syntax? Also, the Goomy line are not next to the Legendary Pokémon and Sliggoo doesn't have a BST of 420, which instead had a BST of 452. --[[User:Cinday123|&lt;span style=&quot;color:pink&quot;&gt;Cinday123&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;small&gt;''([[User talk:Cinday123|&lt;span style=&quot;color:lightblue&quot;&gt;Talk&lt;/span&gt;]])''&lt;/small&gt; 07:08, 7 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Additional fact ==<br /> <br /> Under the list of exceptions to the Elite Four and Champions being the only people to use pseudo-legendaries, can someone add that Roark uses a Tyranitar during the rematches at the Battleground in Platinum? [[User:Aggron989|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#858585;&quot;&gt;''AGG''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Aggron989|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#858585;&quot;&gt;''RON''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Aggron989|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#444444;&quot;&gt;''989''&lt;/span&gt;]] 22:21, 20 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pokédex placement ==<br /> <br /> &quot;With the exception of the Garchomp and Hydreigon evolutionary lines, pseudo-legendary Pokémon are usually situated adjacent to the legendary trios in the Pokédexes of their respective generations&quot;<br /> <br /> This line actually isn't correct anymore, the Goodra line is next to Karrablast and Quagsire in regional, with Klefki in national. And since it's only one 4/7 of the Pokémon, I don't think it's really notable anymore. -[[User:IVsaur|&lt;span style=&quot;color:lightbrown&quot;&gt;EVs&lt;/span&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;and&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:green&quot;&gt;IVsaurs&lt;/span&gt;]] 15:31, 3 April 2014 (UTC)<br /> :Correct. [[User:Pikachu Bros.|Pikachu Bros.]] &lt;small&gt;([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|talk]])&lt;/small&gt; 16:56, 3 April 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == This Page Should Be Deleted ==<br /> <br /> *Rolls Eyes* This is a wiki, and wikis deal in factual information, not user-created lists and categories... By this logic, every wiki for game that have mod support should have an individual page for every user-created mod. I don't see a legitimate reason as to why this page should exist, as it in no way fits in with the content template every page on Bulbapedia is based off of... [[User:Ulithium Dragon|Ulithium Dragon]] ([[User talk:Ulithium Dragon|talk]]) 21:59, 4 April 2014 (UTC)</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Sliggoo_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=2099216 2014-04-04T21:44:22Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: Created page with &quot;When it says it evolves &quot;starting at level 50&quot;, does that mean it will evolve when it hits level 50, or does it mean any level post-50? (i.e. 51-100) ~~~~&quot;</p> <hr /> <div>When it says it evolves &quot;starting at level 50&quot;, does that mean it will evolve when it hits level 50, or does it mean any level post-50? (i.e. 51-100) [[User:Ulithium Dragon|Ulithium Dragon]] ([[User talk:Ulithium Dragon|talk]]) 21:44, 4 April 2014 (UTC)</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Kabuto_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=2097663 2014-04-01T20:49:56Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: /* Origins */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Rotating art}}<br /> ==Giga Impact==<br /> <br /> It says it can learn Giga Impact by TM; is this actually possible? [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 11:26, 20 May 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I believe the answer is no; I'll guess Giga Impact ended up on the list due to copy+pasting from Kabutop's move list. The other websites don't list it as teachable, and Giga Impact is only for fully-evolved Pokémon, if I remember correctly... if anyone has a TM68 and a Kabuto laying around, perhaps they could give it a test to confirm, but for now I've removed it from the article. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt; '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;''.cнаt'''''^'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 11:36, 20 May 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::And, dude, it's '''G'''iga '''I'''mpact. Not giga impact. PROPER NOUN. Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|&lt;span class=&quot;explain&quot; title=&quot;Optimus35&quot;&gt;&lt;sc&gt;Θρtιmαtum♏&lt;/sc&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]&lt;/sup&gt;''12:13 20 May 2008'''''<br /> I just tried. It can't learn it.--[[User:Shard1697|Shard1697]] 15:21, 27 August 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Origins==<br /> <br /> The other day i noticed that in the origins section of the article, It said something along the lines of ''May be based upon the titular species of Nintendo's Metroid series.'' It also said that it can learn moves like Giga Drain and whoever wrote that related it to the energy sucking abilities of a metroid. But then i come back and its deleted. Why? They gave good evidence so why was it deleted? They even look similar. [[User:Hellkaiserryo12|Hellkaiserryo12]] 18:55, 17 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> [[User:Water Sprites|Water Sprites]] 14:47, 23 February 2011 (UTC) I think this name quite simply comes from kabutodouitsha, the japanese for beetle<br /> <br /> I agree, one of the references used as a basis for Kabuto was clearly a Metroid. I found that user's talk page, and the person who deleted it made it sound like you need to have every single little detail in common with something for it to be &quot;based&quot; off it...http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Eriorguez<br /> --[[User:Ulithium Dragon|Ulithium Dragon]] ([[User talk:Ulithium Dragon|talk]]) 20:49, 1 April 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Swords Dance ==<br /> <br /> I've removed Swords Dance from Kabuto's list of learnable TMs. I was trying to breed S'Dance onto my Kabuto using Crawdaunt on SoulSilver- it was through this I realised it could not learn the move. Could someone still double check it though, just in case.<br /> [[User:Spoinkspoink|Spoinkspoink]] 14:03, 21 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> ...<br /> <br /> == kabutos evolution level ==<br /> <br /> I've been playing Pokémon leaf green and I was wondering, what level does Kabuto evolve? does this website tell you somewhere?<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikemaster98|Mikemaster98]] 03:46, 8 April 2012 (UTC)michael j<br /> :It's on the second line of this article &gt;.&gt;--[[User:Force Fire|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#424B50&quot;&gt;'''F'''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#848A8D&quot;&gt;orce&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Force Fire|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E3CED0&quot;&gt;'''F'''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#EDDFE0&quot;&gt;ire&lt;/span&gt;]] 03:57, 8 April 2012 (UTC)</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Eriorguez&diff=2097658 2014-04-01T20:45:39Z

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Please don't insert stuff like this into articles unless you can somehow back it up. --[[User:Martonimos|&lt;font color=&quot;#008000&quot;&gt;Martonimos&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:Martonimos|((&lt;font color=&quot;#00FF00&quot;&gt;Argh&lt;/font&gt;]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|&lt;font color=&quot;#50C878&quot;&gt;Blargh&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt; 08:41, 9 August 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I can't think of any other reason as to why a rock/water type was given the moves absorb, mega drain, and giga drain. It's really not that far fetched that they would base a Pokemon off of something they themselves created. And like every other Pokemon, I use the word &quot;based&quot;, which in no way means that Kabuto must share every single attribute with it in order for it to be true... --[[User:Ulithium Dragon|Ulithium Dragon]] ([[User talk:Ulithium Dragon|talk]]) 20:45, 1 April 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Template creation ==<br /> <br /> New templates should ''not'' be directly created in the Template namespace, as you did with {{template|fivepokemonstats}}, they need to be created and properly bug tested in the userspace before they can receive authorization from the {{bp|staff}} in order to move it to the Template namespace. Please make sure you follow these required steps before making further templates. 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Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Litleo_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=2094234 2014-03-25T06:14:23Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: /* Gender Ratio */</p> <hr /> <div>== Name origin ==<br /> <br /> The Lit may also refer to a lit match.<br /> [[User:CoolDudeAl|CoolDudeAl]] ([[User talk:CoolDudeAl|talk]]) 14:58, 14 June 2013 (UTC)<br /> :I concur. That was my initial thought when I saw the name. --[[User:Gioku|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#00FF00;&quot;&gt;G&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Gioku|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#00CC00;&quot;&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009900;&quot;&gt;o&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009900;&quot;&gt;k&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#006600;&quot;&gt;u&lt;/span&gt;]] 23:47, 31 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Manticore relation? ==<br /> <br /> Someone made a valid point ([http://i.imgur.com/Nqyqx5k.jpg]) that the end of his tail looks suspiciously like a Manticore's. We probably won't have any confirmation on that until evolutions come out, but I think it's a high possibility.{{unsigned|Dakar}}<br /> :You pretty much answered to your own question.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|&lt;font color=&quot;#AB0909&quot;&gt;電&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#063A73&quot;&gt;禅&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|&lt;font color=&quot;#fff&quot; face=&quot;Tahoma&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml&quot;&gt;Den Zen&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;''' 14:53, 21 June 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Gender Issue ==<br /> <br /> I think the article should refraim from mentioning any Gender based items until we know more about this Pokémon. For all we know, its a male only species. or the females might be totally different. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 19:06, 23 June 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Korean name for Litleo ==<br /> <br /> Its Korean name is 레오꼬 ''Re'okko''.<br /> * It's a mix of its Japanese name and its English name; 레오 ''re'o'' is &quot;Leo&quot; (lion), 꼬 ''kko'' is from 꼬마 ''kkoma'' meaning &quot;tiny thing&quot;, &quot;small child&quot;, etc.<br /> * Incidentally, 꼬리 ''kkori'' means &quot;tail&quot;, but I think that's just a coincidence. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 18:30, 11 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Type combination ==<br /> <br /> I think it's worth mentioning - like with other pages - that litleo's type combination is unique. [[User:Benjabby|Benjabby]] ([[User talk:Benjabby|talk]]) 16:37, 12 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> We have to wait till the entire dex is out. Because there could be a new mon that isn't related to Litleo but has the same typing. --[[User:Antlionerd|Antlionerd]] ([[User talk:Antlionerd|talk]]) 23:03, 12 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == ability is confirmed ==<br /> <br /> unnerve is confirmed at the pgs [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 11:57, 17 August 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Special Abilities verb tense ==<br /> &quot;In battle, its red bang radiates heat, and when up against a strong opponent, the temperature increased.&quot;<br /> 'Increased' should be 'increases'. Nit-picking, but I can't edit pages yet. [[User:Josephdean21|Josephdean21]] ([[User talk:Josephdean21|talk]]) 13:05, 27 August 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Evolution ==<br /> <br /> It evolves into {{p|Pyroar}}, please update the page. [[User:Digifiend|Digifiend]] ([[User talk:Digifiend|talk]]) 16:10, 12 September 2013 (UTC)<br /> :We know that Pyroar is &quot;an&quot; evolution of Litleo, but we don't know whether Litleo evolves into it or if there is a middle evolution between them. The page as it currently stands is making the assumption that there is no middle evolution (it has Pyroar in the PrevNext header and &quot;It evolves into Pyroar&quot;). [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:15, 12 September 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::The IGN article that revealed it states that it evolves from Litleo. --[[User:Funktastic~!|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009900&quot;&gt;'''It's'''&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color:#CC66FF&quot;&gt;'''Funktastic~!'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#99CCFF&quot;&gt;''話してください''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;]] 18:19, 12 September 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::Not to mention the trailer included in the article says &quot;Litleo evolves into Pyroar&quot; &lt;sup&gt;[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C00;&quot;&gt;★&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt;[[User:Jo The Marten|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C00;&quot;&gt;Jo the Marten&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[Flygon (Pokémon)|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C00;&quot;&gt;★&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C00;&quot;&gt;ಠ_ಠ&lt;/span&gt;]][[Cilan (anime)|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#90C870;&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]] 18:21, 12 September 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::Someone needs to correct the Bulbanews article, then. It just says &quot;Pyroar is '''an''' evolved form of Litleo&quot; as though there's ambiguity. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:12, 12 September 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Filing in template blanks... ==<br /> <br /> Anyone have some leads on the following tidbits?<br /> * Gender ratio<br /> * Hatching time<br /> <br /> I personally have a hunch that the gender ratio might be 75% female (but that's just an opinion because I found a lot of females before spotting a single male lion). Both can be verified experimentally if needed (anyone care to volunteer?) --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 03:48, 27 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Gender Ratio ==<br /> <br /> I believe that there might be a higher chance to find female Litleos than Male Litleos. I was looking for a Litleo for my team, and I probably encountered around twenty to twenty-five Litleos. None of them were male. Has anyone else noticed this? [[User:ShinyMew9001|ShinyMew9001]] ([[User talk:ShinyMew9001|talk]]) 14:40, 28 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> :I too have noticed this. Sadly I wonder traded my male Litleo, now all i find is females. and in the friend Safari all I find is female Pyroars. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 18:12, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::I'm currently breeding Litleos and out of about ten eggs, I've yet to hatch even one male. Males do appear in the wild with some frequency though ... I'll have to fill a box or two and start tallying them. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 07:09, 5 February 2014 (UTC)<br /> :::PS: After about 20 eggs I finally hatched a single male Litleo. Either my luck was really bad tonight, or the species might have a 7:1 ratio (and even then, 20 female eggs is still a feat) --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 05:13, 6 February 2014 (UTC)<br /> I saw you Destiny Knot thing...maybe give the male it and see if that changes things? Also try a batch without th knot [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 13:21, 6 February 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I spent 3 hours on Route 22 in the yellow flowers (need waterfall to reach) trying to find a male Litleo. Not only is the rarity level for Litleos in the area laughably incorrect (average my @$$ - out of the 200+ pokemon I encountered, I saw less than 10 Litleos), but males in general seem to be f***ING nonexistent. I then spent another 2 hours hatching 50+ Litleo eggs and got a grand total of Zero F***ING MALES!!!!!!!!! If anyone has the magical powers apparently needed to get one of these please let me know. I'm going to stop trying before I can no longer resist the urge to see what happens when I put my 3DS into the blender and press &quot;puree&quot;... --[[User:Ulithium Dragon|Ulithium Dragon]] ([[User talk:Ulithium Dragon|talk]]) 06:13, 25 March 2014 (UTC)</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Litleo_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=2094233 2014-03-25T06:13:43Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: /* Gender Ratio */</p> <hr /> <div>== Name origin ==<br /> <br /> The Lit may also refer to a lit match.<br /> [[User:CoolDudeAl|CoolDudeAl]] ([[User talk:CoolDudeAl|talk]]) 14:58, 14 June 2013 (UTC)<br /> :I concur. That was my initial thought when I saw the name. --[[User:Gioku|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#00FF00;&quot;&gt;G&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Gioku|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#00CC00;&quot;&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009900;&quot;&gt;o&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009900;&quot;&gt;k&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#006600;&quot;&gt;u&lt;/span&gt;]] 23:47, 31 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Manticore relation? ==<br /> <br /> Someone made a valid point ([http://i.imgur.com/Nqyqx5k.jpg]) that the end of his tail looks suspiciously like a Manticore's. We probably won't have any confirmation on that until evolutions come out, but I think it's a high possibility.{{unsigned|Dakar}}<br /> :You pretty much answered to your own question.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|&lt;font color=&quot;#AB0909&quot;&gt;電&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#063A73&quot;&gt;禅&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|&lt;font color=&quot;#fff&quot; face=&quot;Tahoma&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml&quot;&gt;Den Zen&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;''' 14:53, 21 June 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Gender Issue ==<br /> <br /> I think the article should refraim from mentioning any Gender based items until we know more about this Pokémon. For all we know, its a male only species. or the females might be totally different. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 19:06, 23 June 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Korean name for Litleo ==<br /> <br /> Its Korean name is 레오꼬 ''Re'okko''.<br /> * It's a mix of its Japanese name and its English name; 레오 ''re'o'' is &quot;Leo&quot; (lion), 꼬 ''kko'' is from 꼬마 ''kkoma'' meaning &quot;tiny thing&quot;, &quot;small child&quot;, etc.<br /> * Incidentally, 꼬리 ''kkori'' means &quot;tail&quot;, but I think that's just a coincidence. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 18:30, 11 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Type combination ==<br /> <br /> I think it's worth mentioning - like with other pages - that litleo's type combination is unique. [[User:Benjabby|Benjabby]] ([[User talk:Benjabby|talk]]) 16:37, 12 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> We have to wait till the entire dex is out. Because there could be a new mon that isn't related to Litleo but has the same typing. --[[User:Antlionerd|Antlionerd]] ([[User talk:Antlionerd|talk]]) 23:03, 12 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == ability is confirmed ==<br /> <br /> unnerve is confirmed at the pgs [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 11:57, 17 August 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Special Abilities verb tense ==<br /> &quot;In battle, its red bang radiates heat, and when up against a strong opponent, the temperature increased.&quot;<br /> 'Increased' should be 'increases'. Nit-picking, but I can't edit pages yet. [[User:Josephdean21|Josephdean21]] ([[User talk:Josephdean21|talk]]) 13:05, 27 August 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Evolution ==<br /> <br /> It evolves into {{p|Pyroar}}, please update the page. [[User:Digifiend|Digifiend]] ([[User talk:Digifiend|talk]]) 16:10, 12 September 2013 (UTC)<br /> :We know that Pyroar is &quot;an&quot; evolution of Litleo, but we don't know whether Litleo evolves into it or if there is a middle evolution between them. The page as it currently stands is making the assumption that there is no middle evolution (it has Pyroar in the PrevNext header and &quot;It evolves into Pyroar&quot;). [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:15, 12 September 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::The IGN article that revealed it states that it evolves from Litleo. --[[User:Funktastic~!|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009900&quot;&gt;'''It's'''&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color:#CC66FF&quot;&gt;'''Funktastic~!'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#99CCFF&quot;&gt;''話してください''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;]] 18:19, 12 September 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::Not to mention the trailer included in the article says &quot;Litleo evolves into Pyroar&quot; &lt;sup&gt;[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C00;&quot;&gt;★&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt;[[User:Jo The Marten|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C00;&quot;&gt;Jo the Marten&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[Flygon (Pokémon)|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C00;&quot;&gt;★&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C00;&quot;&gt;ಠ_ಠ&lt;/span&gt;]][[Cilan (anime)|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#90C870;&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]] 18:21, 12 September 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::Someone needs to correct the Bulbanews article, then. It just says &quot;Pyroar is '''an''' evolved form of Litleo&quot; as though there's ambiguity. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:12, 12 September 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Filing in template blanks... ==<br /> <br /> Anyone have some leads on the following tidbits?<br /> * Gender ratio<br /> * Hatching time<br /> <br /> I personally have a hunch that the gender ratio might be 75% female (but that's just an opinion because I found a lot of females before spotting a single male lion). Both can be verified experimentally if needed (anyone care to volunteer?) --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 03:48, 27 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Gender Ratio ==<br /> <br /> I believe that there might be a higher chance to find female Litleos than Male Litleos. I was looking for a Litleo for my team, and I probably encountered around twenty to twenty-five Litleos. None of them were male. Has anyone else noticed this? [[User:ShinyMew9001|ShinyMew9001]] ([[User talk:ShinyMew9001|talk]]) 14:40, 28 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> :I too have noticed this. Sadly I wonder traded my male Litleo, now all i find is females. and in the friend Safari all I find is female Pyroars. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 18:12, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::I'm currently breeding Litleos and out of about ten eggs, I've yet to hatch even one male. Males do appear in the wild with some frequency though ... I'll have to fill a box or two and start tallying them. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 07:09, 5 February 2014 (UTC)<br /> :::PS: After about 20 eggs I finally hatched a single male Litleo. Either my luck was really bad tonight, or the species might have a 7:1 ratio (and even then, 20 female eggs is still a feat) --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 05:13, 6 February 2014 (UTC)<br /> I saw you Destiny Knot thing...maybe give the male it and see if that changes things? Also try a batch without th knot [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 13:21, 6 February 2014 (UTC)<br /> I spent 3 hours on Route 22 in the yellow flowers (need waterfall to reach) trying to find a male Litleo. Not only is the rarity level for Litleos in the area laughably incorrect (average my @$$ - out of the 200+ pokemon I encountered, I saw less than 10 Litleos), but males in general seem to be f***ING nonexistent. I then spent another 2 hours hatching 50+ Litleo eggs and got a grand total of Zero F***ING MALES!!!!!!!!! If anyone has the magical powers apparently needed to get one of these please let me know. I'm going to stop trying before I can no longer resist the urge to see what happens when I put my 3DS into the blender and press &quot;puree&quot;... --[[User:Ulithium Dragon|Ulithium Dragon]] ([[User talk:Ulithium Dragon|talk]]) 06:13, 25 March 2014 (UTC)</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_glitches_in_Generation_VI&diff=2090439 2014-03-16T15:23:07Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: /* Pokemon Center Point of View Glitch */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>== Sky Trainers ==<br /> <br /> This isn't really a glitch, the player can't speak with them because they're too far away, and when the player steps into the area, they're not programmed to do anything if the player's already fought them. Like the previous rebattling trainers, {{tc|Pokémon Breeder}} in [[Pokémon Black and White Versions 2#Gameplay changes|Black 2 and White 2]]. -[[User:IVsaur|&lt;span style=&quot;color:lightbrown&quot;&gt;EVs&lt;/span&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;and&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:green&quot;&gt;IVsaurs&lt;/span&gt;]] 12:18, 31 October 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> You can't rematch Sky Trainers, though, and Pokémon Breeders could be spoken to after battles. It seems odd that you addressed it as &quot;it always happens&quot;, because it clearly doesn't. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 12:26, 31 October 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> You can't? I thought I had done that before.... -[[User:IVsaur|&lt;span style=&quot;color:lightbrown&quot;&gt;EVs&lt;/span&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;and&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:green&quot;&gt;IVsaurs&lt;/span&gt;]] 12:56, 31 October 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You can talk to them after you have fought them. However, you need to leave the area and come back later to do so, which is different when compared to other trainers. (Making sure the game is patched to 1.1 may help as well.) --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 23:47, 7 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Mystery Egg ==<br /> We should probably mention its effects, shouldn't we?--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 01:50, 5 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> :I don't think anyone actually knows of any as of yet. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] ([[User talk:OwnageMuch|talk]]) 21:49, 6 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::It is known that Mystery Eggs can duplicate after an unspecified amount of time and take up space in the PC Boxes, eventually rendering them unusable. Sort of like the Bad Eggs of previous gens. --&lt;b&gt;[[User talk:Relicant|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#EBEBEB;&quot;&gt;The&lt;/span&gt;]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F08030;&quot;&gt;Truth&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/b&gt; aka Relicant 22:12, 6 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::: Okay, wasn't it confirmed that the Mystery Egg glitch was happening to ''one guy'' because of a hardware issue, not anything to do with the game's coding? In that case, I don't think it qualifies for Bulbapedia coverage any more than Pokemon X Special Headless Edition does. Unless there's actual reports of other players with this problem who probably don't have the same hardware issues, in which case, please link me to them. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 22:47, 6 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::People have been receiving them off Wonder Trade, and some have had them pop up in their boxes randomly. It's not &quot;just one guy&quot;. --&lt;b&gt;[[User talk:Relicant|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#EBEBEB;&quot;&gt;The&lt;/span&gt;]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F08030;&quot;&gt;Truth&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/b&gt; aka Relicant 23:00, 6 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::: I say again, give me a link to actual proof. I don't want to go by hearsay, because hearsay is what started the whole &quot;bad eggs on WT because people started hacking&quot; fiasco despite hacking being quite impossible at this point. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 01:00, 7 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::::I don't think anyone actually has gotten Bad Eggs from Wonder Trade. To my knowledge, people (who didn't get them) just speculated that was where they came from. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 03:24, 7 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> Well, I found [http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/60943/t1911857-mystery-eggs/ two] other people who got them, though the thread quickly devolves into &quot;they're from wonder trade because hacks!&quot; nonsense. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 15:15, 7 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> :I've heard that it may have something to do with the SD card. Bishopped (the guy with the video) said that the eggs remained in his game even when he made a new save too.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 06:05, 13 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::They will duplicate in every box, and if all boxes are filled, they will replace your team. [[User:BlueJolteon|BlueJolteon]] ([[User talk:BlueJolteon|talk]]) 10:15, 2 January 2014 (UTC)<br /> :::Well I have tried and succeeded in viewing game data from the cartridge, and seeing that even being able to get into the game's code is semi-easy, you could easily recreate your boxes and whatnot. I've watched people copy pokemon by using the sd card. I don't understand most of the code within the data, but all of your pc information is stored in your sd. I saw a guy deposited a pokemon on the gts and he re-wrote his sd card to have its previous data, he was able to &quot;go back in time&quot; and withdraw a pokemon from te gts but it wasalso in it's pc. And if the gts is still on the same lines as the previous one, who says that no one got a hacked egg from the gts and somehow spread it? Not very much proof, but theories and other occurrences is what I'm relying on. [[User:Kiko2558|Kiko2558]] ([[User talk:Kiko2558|talk]]) 06:42, 13 January 2014 (UTC)<br /> ::::That's a pretty wild claim, Kiko. I don't suppose you could supply some proof that you've gotten into the game's code? From what I've heard, it's quite far from easy this generation. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 16:31, 13 January 2014 (UTC)<br /> :::::You can still mod your 3DS to get into significant parts of the code. But to the point, the game does store the data on the SD card for the Pokémon. It doesn't make sense to anyone at the moment, so most just copy the whole thing so that they can do the GTS clone trick since the data for the GTS Pokémon isn't stored on the SD card. As for the Mystery Egg issue, we would need video proof that someone can trade it to another cart without using SD cards. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 00:22, 15 January 2014 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I'd been under the impression that the game kept track of its most recent save file, so the player couldn't just swap in an earlier one like that. Am I mistaken? Can you provide some proof for this? [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 03:14, 15 January 2014 (UTC)<br /> :::::::[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sau6iqSsEE This was what I was referring to.] It looks like if this worked, then the 1.2 patch fixed it. A different cloning glitch would is discussed [http://forums.glitchcity.info/index.php?topic=6791.0 on Glitch Laboratories] and [http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?34160-Cloning-Pokemon-in-X-Y on Pokemon Project]. A good video of it is [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMTR6bq3A9E located on Youtube.] --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 03:52, 15 January 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wonder Trade evolution movelearning glitch ==<br /> <br /> I don't think the description up now is quite right- I received a Phantump over Wonder Trade which, of course, evolved, and in doing so learned a few new moves (it was at level 1, so all its starting moves). Rather than both moves vanishing, the old moves just weren't replaced. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 01:27, 30 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> :I'm pretty sure that the description meant that when a Wonder Traded Pokémon learns a new move that replaces the old move, they both disappear, rather than slots being filled. -- [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 23:23, 30 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::The Phantump I received had all four moveslots filled up already (egg moves, I guess), if that's what you mean. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 23:37, 30 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pumpkaboo Hp problem ==<br /> Whilst training pumpkaboo with the exp.share, I viewed my party and noticed that pumpkaboo - which was never used once in battle - mysteriously had 1 less Hp than maximum. No clue why or how. [[User:CraftyWeavile|CraftyWeavile]] ([[User talk:CraftyWeavile|talk]]) 22:49, 14 December 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Maybe it got EVs? --[[User:Flametix|Flametix]] ([[User talk:Flametix|talk]]) 22:48, 23 January 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Friend Safari Menu Glitch ==<br /> When on Friend Safari, while being online with the other player, I met a Butterfree, Beautifly and Vivillion (3rd slot). But after coming out the menu displaying for that certain Safari did not display Vivillion but the Pokéball sign remained. I went back in and confirmed that Vivillion was in fact there. But when I came back out again no Vivillion was still displayed.--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] ([[User talk:Wowy|talk]]) 23:36, 2 January 2014 (UTC)<br /> :The Vivillon icon glitch used to be here but some believe it to be intentional. Though in my opinion it's quite clearly not, at the very least don't add that back on the page until there's a consensus supporting its readdition. &lt;font color=&quot;#7faf00&quot;&gt;'''Soulweaver'''&lt;/font&gt; (U.S.) &lt;sup&gt;([[User:UltimateSephiroth|&lt;font color=&quot;#3f7f00&quot;&gt;about me&lt;/font&gt;]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|&lt;font color=&quot;#3f7f00&quot;&gt;chat&lt;/font&gt;]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]])&lt;/sup&gt; 00:02, 3 January 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Daycare Sign glitch==<br /> I've run by just about every sign that's the same type as the Daycare's with no glitches; the two in front of Connecting Cave's entrances don't turn your head until you're directly in front of them, though. The only sign I know I haven't checked is the one in front of the monument in Geosenge. Also, the sign at the beginning of Santalune Forest doesn't cause the head turn, but it's a different kind of sign. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 02:35, 10 January 2014 (UTC)<br /> :Well, I just went to the Friend Safari, the Battle Chateau, and the Connecting Cave signs and got a reaction from the four, but still nothing for the Day Care. I will note that if your a step away from being infront of the sign, your head will turn towards the sign just a bit. (As for the Trainer Tip signs, they act a bit weird in that the player will only face the closest part of the sign, but I still get a reaction.) --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 06:00, 10 January 2014 (UTC)<br /> :Guessing this sign is similar to route signs which have the same behavior. Your head won't turn towards a route sign, but they still display text. I could spend the rest of the day going through all the signs in the game, but I'm sure there's quite a few signs that share the same behavior as the Day Care sign. [[User:Rcmaehl|Rcmaehl]] ([[User talk:Rcmaehl|talk]]) 14:59, 23 January 2014 (UTC)<br /> ::Well, the problem is that it isn't designed as a route sign. It is designed as a notable location sign. Yet, this is the only sign of its design that I have seen in the game that does not act as it should. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 03:16, 24 January 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Possible Damage Glitch==<br /> As I was doing a triple battle at restaurant le yeah, I had a lv 100 charizard, 52 typhlosion, and 46 swampert. My charizard mega evolves and uses solar beam on a level 31 sigiylf, no problem there. My fully special attack ev trained lv 52 typhlosion uses an eruption and gets a crit on swampert, does half health, still sort of normal. Then my swampert, who has almost no ev training at all, uses earthquake on my typhlosion, super effective, critical hit, does only half health. (Also, I just left out the mantine and Emolga since they used protect or something). No video proof, it only happened once. {{unsigned|Kiko2558}}<br /> <br /> FLAMETIX:<br /> Maybe the Swampert had an Attack lowering nature.<br /> <br /> Also, here's damage calculations from Showdown's damage calculator:<br /> 0- Atk Swampert Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Typhlosion on a critical hit: 74-90 (46.5 - 56.6%) -- 69.9% chance to 2HKO<br /> <br /> Lowest attack possible with the Typhlosion being EVd in Defense results in a 2HKO.<br /> <br /> 0- Atk Swampert Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0+ Def Typhlosion on a critical hit: 98-116 (51 - 60.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO<br /> <br /> EV'd in HP.<br /> <br /> Triple battles and doubles lower the power of multi target moves, and both things point to doing a 2HKO.<br /> <br /> It depends on the Swampert's stats: if it's not a -Attack or it has high IVs, it can change. --[[User:Flametix|Flametix]] ([[User talk:Flametix|talk]]) 22:56, 23 January 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Move overwriting glitch ==<br /> <br /> This seems like intentional behavior to me. Either they simply let the Pokémon use the move that it no longer knows, or it lets the Pokémon use the new move, which could cause problems. For example, if you select a move that hits multiple targets, and then replace it with a move that has only a single target before the move is made, then what? The only other alternative is to force the Pokémon to make no move at all.<br /> <br /> So, this doesn't really seem like a glitch to me. Interested to hear what you think. --[[User:Dada|Dada]] ([[User talk:Dada|talk]]) 14:38, 13 January 2014 (UTC)<br /> :Dunno. In Generation III at least, the new move is used. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 16:18, 13 January 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Memory girl glitch ==<br /> <br /> Having defeated a few of the battle chatelaines - with Xerneas sitting out in my party during the battles - I checked its &quot;memories&quot; in Anistar city, and found that &quot;Xerneas battled at &lt;name&gt;'s side and defeated a battle chatelaine.&quot; [[User:CraftyWeavile|CraftyWeavile]] ([[User talk:CraftyWeavile|talk]]) 03:24, 4 February 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Super Training forme glitch ==<br /> <br /> I'm thinking of adding this to the page, but does anyone want to confirm it first?<br /> <br /> If the [[Super Training]] screen is visible while certain Pokémon change [[forme]], it will show the Pokemon in their previous forme instead of their current one. The Pokémon will be shown in its proper forme after switching to a different screen (even the Super Training Regimen screen) and back. This happens with {{p|Burmy}} (whose form changes automatically after a battle) and {{p|Rotom}} (whose form can be changed using the boxed appliances in Sycamore's lab), and possibly others ({{p|Shaymin}}?). <br /> <br /> --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 19:30, 15 February 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == PSS standby glitch ==<br /> <br /> This has to be the #1 most obvious glitch I've personally encountered in XY, and I've heard anectodal tales of other people having the same issue:<br /> <br /> If the player is connected to the Internet via PSS, suspending the game software by any means (e.g: closing the 3DS lid, or pressing the HOME button) will trigger a &quot;communication error&quot; message (e.g. code 003-4099) immediately upon returning to the game. This does not happen when using the GTS (where the HOME button is disabled).<br /> <br /> --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 20:53, 15 February 2014 (UTC)<br /> :This hardly seems like a glitch to me. It makes sense that putting the game on standby would disconnect it from the most energy consuming part of the game, connecting to the Internet. ☆&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Algerian&quot;&gt;[[User:Solar Dragon|&lt;span style=&quot;color:green&quot;&gt;The&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;Solar&lt;/span&gt;]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue&quot;&gt;Dragon&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;☆ 20:56, 15 February 2014 (UTC)<br /> :: The 3DS generally disconnects from the internet when closed. This happens if you have the browser open, too, though that just reconnects without any message. I believe this happened on the DS as well. So no, not a glitch, just a normal (3)DS function. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 02:00, 16 February 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I can confirm what Yamiidenryuu said, this is not a glitch the 3DS is functioning as intended.[[User:Rcmaehl|Rcmaehl]] ([[User talk:Rcmaehl|talk]]) 06:59, 3 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Sylveon==<br /> Not sure if it's a glitch or not, but thought I might mention it here. I've had this happen to me before and others have also seen it too, but a Sylveon which evolved from a non-Kalos native Eevee doesn't register on the Pokédex. It seems the game doesn't recognise non-native Kalos Pokémon, which could possibly be on purpose.--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] ([[User talk:Wowy|talk]]) 02:31, 20 February 2014 (UTC)<br /> :I'm not sure about it &quot;not recognizing&quot; non native Kalos Pokémon, since everything I've ever obtained in my Gen VI game that came from an older game still registers, but the symbol for it being &quot;caught&quot; on the Pokédex is a Pokéball instead of the Kalos symbol (it's been known that this happens if the only Pokémon you've ever gotten of that species have been from non Gen VI games), but regardless, they still do register. So a Sylveon not showing up as caught seems to be a bug, probably (and this is only a guess, mind you) that the {{tt|69|70-72?}} Gen VI Pokémon are set to never have that symbol in the Pokédex next to their name, which also shows up from evolutions. For example:<br /> :*Getting a non-Kalos native Eevee (without ever having obtained an Eevee otherwise) would give you the Pokéball symbol, evolving it into any of the older Eeveelutions would give that Pokémon the same symbol in the Dex.<br /> :*Getting that same Eevee, but evolving it into a Sylveon should ''logically'' give the Sylveon the Pokéball symbol, but the game's Pokédex is probably programmed to not do this for any Pokémon introduced in Gen VI, which Sylveon was.<br /> :Regardless, I'd say this is in fact an oversight/glitch, not something intentional on Nintendo's part. [[User:Schiffy|&lt;span style=&quot;color:DarkGreen&quot;&gt;Schiffy (瀬藤健二)&lt;/span&gt;]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) &lt;span style=&quot;cursor:help;&quot; title=&quot;This is when my words were heard&quot;&gt;03:18,2/20/2014 (UTC)&lt;/span&gt;<br /> ::&quot;Getting that same Eevee, but evolving it into a Sylveon should ''logically'' give the Sylveon the Pokéball symbol, but the game's Pokédex is probably programmed to not do this for any Pokémon introduced in Gen VI, which Sylveon was&quot; is what I meant when I said that the game doesn't seem to recognise non-native Kalos Pokémon. Sorry if that wasn't very obvious what I meant earlier.<br /> ::In any case, should it be added to this page?--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] ([[User talk:Wowy|talk]]) 03:22, 20 February 2014 (UTC)<br /> :::Ah, my mistake. I see what you were saying. Anyway, since it seems pretty clear that this was some form of oversight, I don't really see why not. [[User:Schiffy|&lt;span style=&quot;color:DarkGreen&quot;&gt;Schiffy (瀬藤健二)&lt;/span&gt;]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) &lt;span style=&quot;cursor:help;&quot; title=&quot;This is when my words were heard&quot;&gt;03:28,2/20/2014 (UTC)&lt;/span&gt;<br /> <br /> == Pokémon-Amie Glitch not a glitch ==<br /> <br /> I do not think that is a glitch, I think that is just how new Pokemon are until they are fed. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 23:33, 26 February 2014 (UTC)<br /> : I doubt it. If the intent was to imply the trainer gets better at reading a Pokemon's emotions as they got to know each other, or that the Pokemon grew to be more open with the trainer, I'd expect it to last at least until an actual affection levelup, not just until the tiniest bit of affection is earned. And it doesn't change the fact that a Pokemon in this condition will ''like'' being petted in its disliked spot, which doesn't make sense at all. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 01:53, 27 February 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Back-to-Back WonderTrade System Date/Time Save Glitch ==<br /> <br /> If you select WonderTrade, the game saves and then takes you to the WonderTrade interface. Once your trade is completed, or you exit out without trading, you are taken back to the PSS interfect. From there, if you select WonderTrade again, the time and saved will be the same time and date saved from the first interaction. This will continue until the PSS Menu Interface is exited out.<br /> <br /> So for instance, If I was trying to get a WonderTradeWednesday Pokémon from @BulbaTrade, If I saved at 2/26/2014 at 18:39, If I select WonderTrade again, it will continue saving 2/26/2014 at 18:39 no mater how much time has passed. Only the Time and date retrieved from the system seems effected by this glitch. The Player's Time they've played the game will continue to move forward. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 23:47, 26 February 2014 (UTC)<br /> : This happens if you use the GTS as well, so it seems like it's a problem with the PSS menu rather than Wonder Trade. Incidentally, I could swear this glitch didn't occur before the 1.2 patch, but I don't think there's any way to test that anymore... [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 01:53, 27 February 2014 (UTC)<br /> ::I believe it is as well. You can remove your SD card to check, since the patch is on there and not the game itself. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 02:26, 27 February 2014 (UTC)<br /> ::: I know that, but without the upgrades, you can't get online. I'll try it later, but I'm not sure I'll even be able to get to the right parts of the menu. ._. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 14:56, 27 February 2014 (UTC)<br /> ::: Ha ha nope, couldn't even load the game. Got a message about the SD card not being recognised. I think there's a way around that, but for now I'm stuck. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 21:48, 28 February 2014 (UTC)<br /> :::: I guess until its able to be researched, we can add the glitch under All versions? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 22:12, 3 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> :::::This appears to also happen with the battle maison.[[User:CraftyWeavile|CraftyWeavile]] ([[User talk:CraftyWeavile|talk]]) 05:22, 8 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> How does this happen with the Battle Maison, and you describe it? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 07:02, 8 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> :*Can you describe it?* typo. Anyways I seems to be unable to repeat it properly so can you describe the process in which this occurs? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 23:37, 8 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Holocaster Stereo Camera Glitch? ==<br /> <br /> I am not sure about the 3DS, since I have a 2DS...but when I go to the Holocaster's menu and select the '''Check Announcements''' option, the front stereo cameras activate. Is this a glitch, or a feature meant for something further down the line like QR code recognition or whatever? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 02:11, 28 February 2014 (UTC)<br /> : I don't know about the 2DS, but on the 3DS it shows whatever the cameras capture behind the announcer lady, in 3D. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 21:47, 28 February 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Glittering Cave Glitch ==<br /> <br /> I don't think anyone has noticed this, but in the room where you meet Team Flare for the first time, there is a graphical glitch. First, break open the rock in the top right corner of the room. Then, take a step forward. You should notice that your hat/head goes through the wall. [[User:PixelMuffin|PixelMuffin]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 16:18, 2 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> :Added. Should check Terminus Caves and the like to see if there's any more. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 16:42, 2 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Shall do, while I have the time. Meanwhile, though, I can tell you that nothing like this occurs in Reflection cave, or the rest of Glittering cave. [[User:PixelMuffin|PixelMuffin]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 21:29, 3 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Ok, so I've checked all of the caves now, and I can assure you that this happens in none of the other caves, not even the little ones like Unknown Dungeon. Have a nice day, guys. [[User:PixelMuffin|PixelMuffin]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 21:29, 3 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I've noticed that a few of the trees on the south end of route 14 tend to look as if they have pierced the player's hat thoroughly.[[User:CraftyWeavile|CraftyWeavile]] ([[User talk:CraftyWeavile|talk]]) 05:17, 8 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: There seems to be a good handful of problems with model collision in general. Mawile's extra mouth will clip through the floor when it turns to you in battle, Talonflame's wing clips through its own body right at the base... [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 18:03, 8 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::: Oh yeah, I've noticed this too. I remember one time I used False Swipe on an Onix in Glittering cave, and half it went through the wall! [[User:PixelMuffin|PixelMuffin]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 21:29, 3 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> :::::If clipping issues are that prevalent, perhaps a sub page could be made? I haven't noticed any, but I'm terrible at small details if I'm not consciously searching for them. &lt;small&gt;[[User:Glik|glik]]&lt;/small&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Glik|glak]]&lt;/sup&gt; 01:15, 9 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> :::::: I don't think it needs its own subpage, since it's a relatively minor glitch that just has lots of examples. A general subsection would probably be best. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 16:24, 9 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Flabebe with Floette's cry ==<br /> <br /> Suprised this hasn't been added yet, but in the Battle Chateau, Baroness Francine's Flabebe has a Floette's cry.----[[User:BigBadBatter|&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;Big&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:BigBadBatter|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#870735&quot;&gt;Bad&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:BigBadBatter|&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;Batter&lt;/span&gt;]] 21:44, 2 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Level disappearing==<br /> <br /> When more than one of my team was KO'd in the same turn in doubles/triples, after having chosen one replacement and going for my second selection, I noticed that the replacement's level # was missing. Have found that it returns if I go as far as the summary/check moves screens of any pokemon in the team. [[User:CraftyWeavile|CraftyWeavile]] ([[User talk:CraftyWeavile|talk]]) 03:39, 4 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Pokedex glitch ==<br /> <br /> Ok, so this glitch isn't something that happened to me, but something I saw on the net a week back. Apparently, if you complete any of the pokedexes with a Pokémon that isn't Kalos-native (Basically, a Pokémon from Gen V), then the game doesn't recognize it, and marks the Pokedex as incomplete. I can find a link to the page, if that'll help (Since I don't make much sense) [[User:PixelMuffin|PixelMuffin]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 21:29, 3 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Head-Turning Glitch==<br /> Outside Lumiose Station, I've noticed that the player's head turns to examine the entrance of the station rather than the sign. When walking past the sign, the player will still be able to read the sign without facing it.[[User:CraftyWeavile|CraftyWeavile]] ([[User talk:CraftyWeavile|talk]]) 03:09, 11 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> :That's because your head turns to look inside any building. The station is one of the few that actually has signs, and likely this is to not to require players to face the sign manually [[User:Pikachu Bros.|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#87CEEB&quot;&gt;Pikachu Bros.&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;small&gt;([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/span&gt;]])&lt;/small&gt; 20:04, 13 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pokemon Center Point of View Glitch ==<br /> <br /> This need further testing and documentation, but I have noticed that if you enter a Pokemon Center while riding a bike or roller skating and immediately walk up to the front desk and talk to Nurse Joy to heal your Pokemon, the point of view during the conversation and subsequent healing of your Pokemon is zoomed in a couple different ways. It immediately returns to normal afterwards, but this doesn't seem normal. Has anyone else ever run across this...? <br /> <br /> I have Pokemon Y by the way. --[[User:Ulithium Dragon|Ulithium Dragon]] ([[User talk:Ulithium Dragon|talk]]) 15:23, 16 March 2014 (UTC)</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Soul_Dew&diff=2090431 2014-03-16T14:46:36Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: /* Pokemon X and Y */</p> <hr /> <div>I would call this a stub, wouldn't you? [[wp:Dolphin|Dolphins]][[User:Dolphin2|_are]][[Special:Contributions|_awesome]] &lt;small&gt;(and [[Vulpix (Pokémon)|Vulpix]] are too)&lt;/small&gt;! 00:18, 27 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :No, looks legitimately long to me. --[[User:Politoed666|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#30D5C8&quot;&gt;ニョロトノ&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Politoed666|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4&quot;&gt;''666''&lt;/span&gt;]] 00:59, 27 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Boost? ==<br /> <br /> The article says this item boosts Lati@s' Sp.Def and Sp.Atk by 50%... is that real? cause my brother got the Eon Ticket, caught Latios, and there seems not to be an offensive boost. Serebii says that Latios receives a boost in Sp.Def and Latias gets Sp.Atk, but even Latias doesn't seem to receive THAT boost (of 50%).<br /> <br /> The questions are: Do they REALLY get a 50% boost in both Special stats? Where did that info come from? or maybe, does Latios only receive a 50% boost in Sp.Def and Latias in Sp.Atk? '''[[User:Hfc2x|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#008800&quot;&gt;h&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;fc&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#008800&quot;&gt;X&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 00:28, 1 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Dream World ==<br /> <br /> According to Smogon, the SD will be available from the DW. I'm not familiar with how the dream world works, so could someone who has an account on the global link add this to the article? (I have signed up for it myself, but I haven't gotten an activation email) [[User:MatchMaster|MatchMaster]] 14:50, 6 May 2012 (UTC)<br /> :Where do you see that on Smogon? I'm on there all the time, and I haven't seen one mention of it anywhere. --[[User:Funktastic~!|It&amp;#39;s Funktastic~!]] 16:07, 6 May 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::Smogon's DW tier is pretty much just a theoretical tier with everything that ''could'' eventually be there in Gen V. It also includes all the Hidden Abilities, but that does not mean that every Pokémon will be available from the Dream World. Likewise, the Soul Dew is exclusive to that tier because it is currently unavailable, but is predicted to be eventually made available. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 16:12, 6 May 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Translation ==<br /> <br /> The [[Stat-enhancing item]] page claims the Japanese translation is &quot;Soul Drop&quot;. This page claims it's &quot;Soul Droplet&quot;. I understand they're probably interchangeable, but even so, we should pick one and stick to it across all pages, shouldn't we? (And if they're not interchangeable, which is correct?) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:29, 26 July 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Soul Dew in battling facilities ==<br /> <br /> While there seems to be a consensus across various sources that Soul Dew is disabled in battling facilities for the player's Latios or Latias, I read elsewhere that ''computer''-controlled Trainers with Latios and/or Latias in their team '''do not have Soul Dew's effect nullified''' (meaning that [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheComputerIsACheatingBastard the computer can freely use Soul Dew to its full effect, yet the player cannot])... It would help if someone could test/confirm this issue across all games that have the Soul Dew present (personally, I wouldn't be surprised at the veracity of such a statement; unfortunately, it wouldn't be the first time that the computer has had an unfair advantage against players). Thanks in advance. [[User:Fenyx4|Fenyx4]] ([[User talk:Fenyx4|talk]]) 16:19, 18 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :From reading list of Battle Subway/Battle Tower Pokemon, whether they can or can't use Soul Dew is irrelevant, since they don't ever use it as a hold item. --[[User:Funktastic~!|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009900&quot;&gt;'''It's'''&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color:#CC66FF&quot;&gt;'''Funktastic~!'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#99CCFF&quot;&gt;''話してください''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;]] 16:45, 18 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pokemon X and Y ==<br /> <br /> Are the Soul Dew and the Enigma Stone just simply not available in Pokemon X and Y, or is this article just incomplete at this time...? --[[User:Ulithium Dragon|Ulithium Dragon]] ([[User talk:Ulithium Dragon|talk]]) 14:46, 16 March 2014 (UTC)</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Enigma_Stone&diff=2090430 2014-03-16T14:46:32Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: /* Pokemon X and Y */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>===First Article!===<br /> Yay I made my first article! Sorry, I was really excited. Btw the picture in the article isn't 100% accurate but it should do until we have a better one. [[User:LugiaRocks|LugiaPwns]] 22:26, 28 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> :I thought that this was called the Mysterious Crystal. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 23:03, 28 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::I've never heard it called Mysterious Crystal once - but all websites like Serebii and PokeBeach call it the Enigma Crystal. Why was the name changed? [[User:LugiaRocks|LugiaPwns]] 15:40, 29 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Because the previous translation didn't make too much sense. &quot;Enigma&quot; isn't an adjective. &quot;Enigma Crystal&quot; sound like two unrelated words. Enigmatic Crystal would work. But why so complicated? It's simply &quot;Mysterious Crystal&quot;. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:45, 29 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::Well, there's the [[Enigma Berry]]... [[User:Blueapple128|Blueapple128]] 00:59, 22 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Soul Dew ==<br /> <br /> Where did the description that says the Soul Dew is &quot;an item said to contain the soul of a deceased Latios&quot; come from? The reason I ask is because the wording in-game for this particular event is a little bit different than that, so I was wondering if this came from somewhere else. If it didn't come from somewhere else, then I'll fix it. I just want to make sure before I do :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 02:26, 27 November 2009 (UTC))<br /> :That came from pokemon heroes --[[User:Kongu Chaos|Kongu Chaos]] 23:06, 2 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Philosopher's Stone? ==<br /> <br /> Because the Enigma Stone/Soul Dew contains the soul of a Latias/Latios, the Philosopher's Stone from Full Metal Alchemist can be considered a similar item. --[[User:Arima|Arima]] 09:22, 9 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> : Another similar item that is comparable in purpose and function to the Enigma Stone/Soul Dew are Eldar Soulstones from the Warhammer 40,000 universe. --[[User:Arima|Arima]] 22:32, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == International Release ==<br /> <br /> On [http://serebii.net Serebii] it said that the Enigma stone is going to be released in North America, Europe, and Austrailia. Is this true? [[User:Lucario and Pichu|Lucario and Pichu]] 15:44, 28 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> : Yep! Saw the article on the offiicial site before it was taken down--[[User:Skymin23|FlyingSkymin23]] 15:47, 28 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::By any chance does anyone have a screen of the official site when the info was up?--'''[[User:Immewnity|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#88AADD&quot;&gt;''immewnity''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Immewnity|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#627DB7&quot;&gt;the&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#335577&quot;&gt;mew&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 18:12, 28 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I have a link from the site about the news.Heres the link[http://www.pokemon.com/us/news/vg_hgss_enigmastone-2010-07-27/].I added the info Yesterday when it was on SPP.[[User Talk:LucarioWolf|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2C2C2C ;&quot;&gt;'''Lucario'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:LucarioWolf|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#7F7F7F ;&quot;&gt;'''Wolf'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:28, 28 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Without National Pokédex ==<br /> <br /> Is it possible to obtain the Wonder Card without the National Pokédex, and unlock it properly once the pokédex has been acquired? [[User:Object In Space|Object In Space]] 22:06, 28 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> :As with all event items, it is absolutely possible to get the Wonder Card and receive the item itself, though impossible to get to the event Pokémon until after. My sister has Oak's Letter and the Member Card, and she hasn't beaten the Elite Four yet. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:32, 28 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Roaming Latios/Latias Event ==<br /> <br /> So I probably should have posted this here before editing the page (hey, i got excited to actually contribute something) but after exiting the Pokefan house in Vermilion with the Doll for the Copycat girl, Steven came up to me and told me about Latios (SS). Has this happened to anyone else? I assume he can come up to you when exiting any normal building in a city, and I think it might just be based on having the enigma stone for a while but not going to pewter t oget it examined (perhaps the games way of helping the player who didn't read the wonder card and doesn't know what to do like I did). I'm still not sure if the Pewter museum event still happens as I haven't gotten to pewter city yet.<br /> <br /> So I just realized that the event I'm talking about is an actual in game event that lets you catch the other legendary from your version. Looks like I jumped the gun. I took out what I put. Does anyone think it would be worth mentioning the roaming Latios/Latias on this page?<br /> [[User:GrayFox814|GrayFox814]] 18:07, 10 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pokemon X and Y ==<br /> <br /> Are the Soul Dew and the Enigma Stone just simply not available in Pokemon X and Y, or is this article just incomplete at this time...? --[[User:Ulithium Dragon|Ulithium Dragon]] ([[User talk:Ulithium Dragon|talk]]) 14:46, 16 March 2014 (UTC)</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Soul_Dew&diff=2090429 2014-03-16T14:45:30Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: /* Pokemon X and Y */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>I would call this a stub, wouldn't you? [[wp:Dolphin|Dolphins]][[User:Dolphin2|_are]][[Special:Contributions|_awesome]] &lt;small&gt;(and [[Vulpix (Pokémon)|Vulpix]] are too)&lt;/small&gt;! 00:18, 27 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :No, looks legitimately long to me. --[[User:Politoed666|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#30D5C8&quot;&gt;ニョロトノ&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Politoed666|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4&quot;&gt;''666''&lt;/span&gt;]] 00:59, 27 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Boost? ==<br /> <br /> The article says this item boosts Lati@s' Sp.Def and Sp.Atk by 50%... is that real? cause my brother got the Eon Ticket, caught Latios, and there seems not to be an offensive boost. Serebii says that Latios receives a boost in Sp.Def and Latias gets Sp.Atk, but even Latias doesn't seem to receive THAT boost (of 50%).<br /> <br /> The questions are: Do they REALLY get a 50% boost in both Special stats? Where did that info come from? or maybe, does Latios only receive a 50% boost in Sp.Def and Latias in Sp.Atk? '''[[User:Hfc2x|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#008800&quot;&gt;h&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;fc&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#008800&quot;&gt;X&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 00:28, 1 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Dream World ==<br /> <br /> According to Smogon, the SD will be available from the DW. I'm not familiar with how the dream world works, so could someone who has an account on the global link add this to the article? (I have signed up for it myself, but I haven't gotten an activation email) [[User:MatchMaster|MatchMaster]] 14:50, 6 May 2012 (UTC)<br /> :Where do you see that on Smogon? I'm on there all the time, and I haven't seen one mention of it anywhere. --[[User:Funktastic~!|It&amp;#39;s Funktastic~!]] 16:07, 6 May 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::Smogon's DW tier is pretty much just a theoretical tier with everything that ''could'' eventually be there in Gen V. It also includes all the Hidden Abilities, but that does not mean that every Pokémon will be available from the Dream World. Likewise, the Soul Dew is exclusive to that tier because it is currently unavailable, but is predicted to be eventually made available. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 16:12, 6 May 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Translation ==<br /> <br /> The [[Stat-enhancing item]] page claims the Japanese translation is &quot;Soul Drop&quot;. This page claims it's &quot;Soul Droplet&quot;. I understand they're probably interchangeable, but even so, we should pick one and stick to it across all pages, shouldn't we? (And if they're not interchangeable, which is correct?) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:29, 26 July 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Soul Dew in battling facilities ==<br /> <br /> While there seems to be a consensus across various sources that Soul Dew is disabled in battling facilities for the player's Latios or Latias, I read elsewhere that ''computer''-controlled Trainers with Latios and/or Latias in their team '''do not have Soul Dew's effect nullified''' (meaning that [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheComputerIsACheatingBastard the computer can freely use Soul Dew to its full effect, yet the player cannot])... It would help if someone could test/confirm this issue across all games that have the Soul Dew present (personally, I wouldn't be surprised at the veracity of such a statement; unfortunately, it wouldn't be the first time that the computer has had an unfair advantage against players). Thanks in advance. [[User:Fenyx4|Fenyx4]] ([[User talk:Fenyx4|talk]]) 16:19, 18 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :From reading list of Battle Subway/Battle Tower Pokemon, whether they can or can't use Soul Dew is irrelevant, since they don't ever use it as a hold item. --[[User:Funktastic~!|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009900&quot;&gt;'''It's'''&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color:#CC66FF&quot;&gt;'''Funktastic~!'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#99CCFF&quot;&gt;''話してください''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;]] 16:45, 18 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pokemon X and Y ==<br /> <br /> Are the Soul Dew and the Enigma Stone just simply not available in Pokemon X and Y, or is this article just incomplete at this time...?</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Enigma_Stone&diff=2090428 2014-03-16T14:45:20Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: /* Pokemon X and Y */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>[[File:Bag Enigma Stone Sprite.png|frame|left]]<br /> The '''Enigma Stone''' (Japanese: '''なぞのすいしょう''' ''Enigmatic Crystal'') is a [[key item|key]] [[event item]] obtainable via Wi-Fi in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}. It is the first [[event item]] for {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, and the only one that was offically distributed.<br /> <br /> The Enigma Stone is very similar to the [[Eon Ticket]]. Like the [[Generation III]] event item, the Stone will trigger the appearance of the Eon Pokémon not found roaming in the version being played. In HeartGold, this is {{p|Latios}}; in SoulSilver, this is {{p|Latias}}. Also much like the Eon Ticket, the player must have defeated the [[Elite Four]] and received the [[National Pokédex]] before the event can be triggered. The Enigma Stone may be downloaded by anyone who has received the [[Pokédex]], but they must first complete the requirements mentioned above before they can trigger the event.<br /> <br /> If it is taken to the [[Pewter Museum of Science]], traveling Pokémon Champion [[Steven Stone]] will have a researcher examine it, who discovers that it is really [[Soul Dew]], an item said to be the crystallized souls of Latias and Latios. After this brief encounter, depending on the game version, one of the twin Eon Pokémon will attack the {{player}}, presenting the opportunity for it to be captured. It will keep returning to the same spot until captured.<br /> <br /> This item was available via Wi-Fi to the Japanese versions of the games from November 27, 2009 to January 11, 2010 and the North American and PAL versions from July 31, 2010 to August 27, 2010. In Japan it was revealed along with the event for HeartGold and SoulSilver, the 10th Anniversary {{p|Mew}}.<br /> <br /> ==Distribution==<br /> {| style=&quot;margin:auto; background: #0047a8; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 5px solid #2260b6&quot;<br /> |- style=&quot;color:#003642; background:#5a91dc;&quot;<br /> ! rowspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;{{roundytl|5px}};&quot; | Game Version<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;{{roundytr|5px}};&quot; | Duration<br /> |- style=&quot;color:#003642; background:#5a91dc;&quot;<br /> ! Wi-Fi<br /> ! Specific Locations<br /> |- style=&quot;background:#a1edfe&quot;<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#a5bcdc&quot; | Japanese<br /> | Nov. 27, 2009 to Jan. 11, 2010<br /> | rowspan=&quot;3&quot; style=&quot;text-align:center;&quot; | -<br /> |-<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#a5bcdc;&quot; | North American<br /> | style=&quot;background:#a1edfe;&quot; | Jul. 31, 2010 to Aug. 27, 2010<br /> |-<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#a5bcdc&quot; | PAL<br /> | style=&quot;background:#a1edfe&quot; | Jul. 31, 2010 to Aug. 27, 2010<br /> |- style=&quot;background:#a1edf3&quot;<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#a5bcdc; {{roundybl|5px}}&quot; | Korean<br /> | style=&quot;text-align:center;&quot; | -<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundybr|5px}}&quot; | Jun. 12, 2010 to Jun. 13, 2010<br /> |}{{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Wonder Card==<br /> {| align=&quot;left&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | valign=&quot;top&quot; |<br /> ===Japanese===<br /> {{wondercard|lang=jap|ms=3|ms1=381|ms2=|ms3=380|<br /> title=&lt;sc&gt;なぞのすいしょう　プレゼント&lt;/sc&gt;|<br /> msg=&lt;sc&gt;ラティオス・ラティアスのつかまえかたは&lt;br&gt;ポケットモンスターオフィシャルサイトで&lt;br&gt;かくにん　してね！&lt;br&gt;フレンドリィショップで　うけとったら&lt;br&gt;かならず　レポートを　かこう！&lt;/sc&gt;|<br /> date=２００９／１１／２７}}<br /> | valign=&quot;top&quot; |<br /> ===English===<br /> {{wondercard|ms=3|ms1=381|ms2=|ms3=380|<br /> title=&lt;sc&gt;The Enigma Stone!&lt;/sc&gt;|<br /> msg=&lt;sc&gt;Visit www.pokemongoldsilver.com to&lt;br&gt;learn how to meet LATIAS or LATIOS in&lt;br&gt;Pewter City! Be sure to save the game&lt;br&gt;once you pick up the Enigma Stone at a&lt;br&gt;Poké Mart.&lt;/sc&gt;|<br /> date=&lt;sc&gt;Jul. 31, 2010&lt;/sc&gt;}}<br /> |}{{-}}<br /> <br /> {| align=&quot;left&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | valign=&quot;top&quot; |<br /> ===French===<br /> {{wondercard|ms=3|ms1=381|ms2=|ms3=380|lang=fra|<br /> title=&lt;sc&gt;Le Mystécristal!&lt;/sc&gt;|<br /> msg=&lt;sc&gt;Allez sur www.pokemongoldsilver.com&lt;br&gt;pour savoir comment rencontrer LATIOS&lt;br&gt;ou LATIAS à Argenta.&lt;br&gt;Sauvegardez une fois le Mystécristal&lt;br&gt;récupéré dans une Boutique Pokémon.&lt;/sc&gt;|<br /> date=&lt;sc&gt;31 jui. 2010&lt;/sc&gt;}}<br /> | valign=&quot;top&quot; |<br /> <br /> ===German===<br /> {{wondercard|ms=3|ms1=381|ms2=|ms3=380|lang=ger|<br /> title=&lt;sc&gt;Ein Mytokristall nur für dich!&lt;/sc&gt;|<br /> msg=&lt;sc&gt;Besuche www.pokemongoldsilver.com&lt;br&gt;und erfahre, wie du in Marmoria City&lt;br&gt;an ein LATIOS oder LATIAS gelangst.&lt;br&gt;Hole den Kristall im PKMN-Supermarkt&lt;br&gt;ab und speichere dein Spiel.&lt;/sc&gt;|<br /> date=&lt;sc&gt;31. Jul. 2010&lt;/sc&gt;}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> {| align=&quot;left&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | valign=&quot;top&quot; |<br /> ===Italian===<br /> {{wondercard|ms=3|ms1=381|ms2=|ms3=380|lang=ita|<br /> title=&lt;sc&gt;Misticristal in regalo!&lt;/sc&gt;|<br /> msg=&lt;sc&gt;Visita www.pokemongoldsilver.com e&lt;br&gt;scopri come catturare LATIOS o LATIAS&lt;br&gt;a Plumbeopoli! Ricorda di salvare&lt;br&gt;dopo avere ottenuto Misticristal&lt;br&gt;in un Pokémon-Market.&lt;/sc&gt;|<br /> date=&lt;sc&gt;31 Lug. 2010&lt;/sc&gt;}}<br /> | valign=&quot;top&quot; |<br /> ===Spanish===<br /> {{wondercard|ms=3|ms1=381|ms2=|ms3=380|lang=spa|<br /> title=&lt;sc&gt;¡El Misticristal!&lt;/sc&gt;|<br /> msg=&lt;sc&gt;¡Visita www.pokemongoldsilver.com y&lt;br&gt;descubre cómo encontrar a LATIOS&lt;br&gt;o a LATIAS en Ciudad Plateada!&lt;br&gt;Recuerda guardar la partida al recoger&lt;br&gt;el Misticristal en la Tienda Pokémon.&lt;/sc&gt;|<br /> date=&lt;sc&gt;31/jul./2010&lt;/sc&gt;}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> {| align=&quot;left&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | valign=&quot;top&quot; |<br /> <br /> ===Korean===<br /> {{wondercard|lang=kor|ms=3|ms1=381|ms2=|ms3=380|<br /> title=&lt;sc&gt;수수께끼의수정 선물&lt;/sc&gt;|<br /> msg=&lt;sc&gt;제8차 포켓몬 모으기 이벤트에 참각해&lt;br&gt;주셔서 갑사합니다! 라티오스와&lt;br&gt;라티아스를 만나러 각는 자세한 방법은&lt;br&gt;포켓몬 공식 사이트를 확인해 주세요!&lt;br&gt;http://pokemonkorea.co.kr&lt;/sc&gt;|<br /> date=&lt;sc&gt;Jun. 12, 2010&lt;/sc&gt;}}<br /> |}{{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Flavor text==<br /> {{movedesc|dragon}}<br /> {{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|HGSS}}&lt;br&gt;{{gameabbrev3|BWB2W2}}{{tt|*|Unobtainable}}|A crystal ball that was excavated from the ground. A very beautiful stone that is covered with bits of rock and earth.}}<br /> |}<br /> |}{{left clear}}<br /> <br /> ==In other languages==<br /> {{Langtable|color={{dragon color light}}|bordercolor={{dragon color dark}}<br /> |fr=Mystécristal<br /> |de=Mytokristall<br /> |it=Misticristal<br /> |es=Misticristal<br /> |ko=수수께끼의수정 ''Susukkekki-ui Sujeong''<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==See also==<br /> * [[Event items]]<br /> * [[Eon Ticket]]<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> {{EventExclusive}}&lt;br&gt;<br /> {{Project ItemDex notice}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Items]]<br /> [[Category:Key items]]<br /> [[Category:Legendary artifacts]]<br /> <br /> [[es:Misticristal]]<br /> [[fr:Mystécristal]]<br /> [[ja:なぞのすいしょう]]<br /> <br /> == Pokemon X and Y ==<br /> <br /> Are the Soul Dew and the Enigma Stone just simply not available in Pokemon X and Y, or is this article just incomplete at this time...?</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Azure_Bay&diff=2090289 2014-03-16T04:04:02Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: /* Incomplete Found Pokemon List */</p> <hr /> <div>== Arrows ==<br /> <br /> I've heard people saying that one of the patches of grass on an island is shaped like an &quot;R&quot;, but does anyone else think that it looks more like an arrow pointing toward the Sea Spirit's Den? There are also three rock formations that surround the den at the other corners that look like arrows. Two of the arrow rock formations point toward the den, but nearest to the top right corner is pointing in the exact opposite direction.<br /> <br /> Anyone else see this? Or am I just seeing things? [[User:Heibai|Heibai]] ([[User talk:Heibai|talk]]) 07:51, 21 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Incomplete Found Pokemon List ==<br /> <br /> I think the list of what Pokemon that can be found in this area is incomplete. I found a Gorebyss using a Super Rod. From how long I spent fishing, I would guess that its rarity is &quot;Almost Never&quot;.<br /> <br /> I have Pokemon Y by the way, so you may find a Huntail in Pokemon X (I think that's a reasonable guess based on how Pokemon with more than one evolution have been handled in the past).<br /> <br /> EDIT: Never mind, I guess that I wasn't technically in Azure Bay... --[[User:Ulithium Dragon|Ulithium Dragon]] ([[User talk:Ulithium Dragon|talk]]) 04:04, 16 March 2014 (UTC)</div>

Ulithium Dragon https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Azure_Bay&diff=2090284 2014-03-16T03:48:06Z

<p>Ulithium Dragon: /* Incomplete Found Pokemon List */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>== Arrows ==<br /> <br /> I've heard people saying that one of the patches of grass on an island is shaped like an &quot;R&quot;, but does anyone else think that it looks more like an arrow pointing toward the Sea Spirit's Den? There are also three rock formations that surround the den at the other corners that look like arrows. Two of the arrow rock formations point toward the den, but nearest to the top right corner is pointing in the exact opposite direction.<br /> <br /> Anyone else see this? Or am I just seeing things? [[User:Heibai|Heibai]] ([[User talk:Heibai|talk]]) 07:51, 21 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Incomplete Found Pokemon List ==<br /> <br /> I think the list of what Pokemon that can be found in this area is incomplete. I found a Gorebyss using a Super Rod. From how long I spent fishing, I would guess that its rarity is &quot;Almost Never&quot;.<br /> <br /> I have Pokemon Y by the way, so you may find a Huntail in Pokemon X (I think that's a reasonable guess based on how Pokemon with more than one evolution have been handled in the past).</div>

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