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Talk:Lopunny (Pokémon)

2009-04-06T02:19:12Z

Twistedpokefan: /* Glitch? */ new section

== Lola Bunny? ==

How can Lopunny look like Lola Bunny? It doesn't look like her. [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 20:38, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

== About the feminine trivia ==

I believe that we should only add Pokémon with stereotypical '''human''' female traits such as Kirlia, Gardevior, and Roserade. I guess Gorebyss can be acceptible too because it wears that mermaid bra thing. You know, ones that everyone can agree on. Not everyone thinks Finneon, Lumineon, and Cherrim have destinct feminine features and I believe that one user is just adding Pokémon that they think look female to them. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:31, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:That trivia is pretty much fanwank to begin with. I guess the ones you mentioned are acceptable, but if there's any more edit-warring, we ought to just pull it altogether. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 22:39, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I was never trying to start any fights with anyone, but the reason I was adding Finneon and Roselia's line and Pokémon like Cherrim and Misdreavus's line is because alot of people I know on the web all see these Pokémon as graceful looking and feminine, especially on the site called DeviantArt, which I go on. So I felt they should've been included, and it didn't seem fair that they weren't. But I'll be okay with this new change in the trivia with only the Pokémon with human female traits as I've noticed that the earlier list was getting a little too long anyway. The other Pokemon do look feminine, but not in a human way. Wait, shouldn't Misdreavus's line count because of the necklace and the hair? And Mismagius does resemble a witch.--[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 02:14, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== Glitch? ==

I was playing platinum and I caught a buneary that knows frustration(instead of return) ...is that possible?
Is it a glitch?
twistedpokefan--[[User:Twistedpokefan|Twistedpokefan]] 02:19, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Regigigas (Pokémon)

2009-03-30T06:25:51Z

Twistedpokefan: /* SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT. */ new section

== Signature Move? ==

Would [[Crush Grip (move)]] Be Regigigas's '''Signature''' Move? I've Looked And No Other Pokémon Learn It. Tesh

Yes, it is... [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 17:11, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

In Pokemon Battle Revolution there is an unobtainable Combusken that knows Crush Grip, Regigigas's signature move.

Unobtainable Pokemon don't count. An event Darkrai knows Roar of Time and Spatial Rend. Does that make Roar of Time and Spatial Rend
not Dialga and Palkia's signature move? I don't think so.[[User:Shadow1337|Shadow1337]] 20:56, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

== Hidden power STAB? ==

Under moves learnt through TM's Hidden power is in bold but on the page for the attack it says that no normal-type pokemon can recieve a STAB bonus for the attack --[[User:Itxi|Itxi]] 00:56, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Technically, I think anything BUT Normal types should have Hidden Power.... not really bolded, but somehow distinguished so you know that the Pokémon is CAPABLE of getting STAB from Hidden Power, as it can be any type but normal. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 11:00, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

== SSBB ==

Does the template really have to be there? [[User:Krakash|Krakash]] 17:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:That was left over from the false reports of it being in Brawl. I've removed it. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:58, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== Locked ==

Why is this page locked for 2 months? [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 23:01, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
:Paranoia over the movie. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 23:04, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

== WTF?! ==

On the trivia it says he is at lv.1 in [[Pokémon Platinum]],is this true ,if so WTF?!
From---[[User:Ultamatecharizard]].
:Apparently. I've heard it reported multiple times on the forums. And the page is [[Pokémon Platinum Version]]. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:36, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::Seriously?! Well that's just... screwed up. You could catch that thing in a POKÉ BALL! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:15, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
:::I have no idea why Nintendo would consider dropping a Legendary Pokémon THAT low... there should be some logical reason. Maybe Nintendo just thinks that it's difficult enough to transfer all 3 Regis forward, THEN battle a level 70, but then again they added caves for the Regis all over Sinnoh as well. I'm not sure if putting the Regis into Sinnoh helps the legend over Regigigas or makes it less plausible...
:::(And PS TTE: My Giratina was caught inside a Poké Ball, and my Regigigas is in a Net Ball. Never discount the crappy stuff! :)) ←{'''[[User:Berrymaster|Berrymaster]]|[[User_talk:Berrymaster|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Berrymaster|Contrib]]'''}→ 23:19, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Even being Level 1, Regigigas is still hard to catch(It keeps it's catch rate of 3). Level literally does not affect you catching it(Besides the Nest ball calculation). Also, Nest Balls only have a max Pokeball value of 3 so the Dusk Balls, Quick Balls(First 5 turns), and Timer Balls(After 30 turns) are still better(All having a value of 4)...
::::Also, I think they made it Level 1 as a joke, somewhat of a reference to the fact they put in the other Regis which can only be fought using a '''Level 100''' event Regigigas(Which they probably assumed everyone would have, also thinking you wouldn't want to catch it in the wild because of it). It is also interesting that him being Level 1 not only makes him the lowest leveled Legendary, but ALSO the lowest leveled wild Pokemon ever(All starting route wild Pokemon are level 2 or above, never level 1...)[[User:JoeTE|Joe T.E.]] 21:28, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::They're really getting annoying. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUPG2Zrp7M4] '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 20:45, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::If it's level 1 what moves will it have because it has 7 "start" moves in platinum? or is it random and I'm an idiot? lord mada 19:57, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::The four last ones, as it always is. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 19:59, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I know its the last 4 moves normally. So this isn't a special case due to it having 7 equal level moves? I assume its coded in that order and the list was extracted from the game data? lord mada 20:45, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

==Small Note==

I just noticed this interesting bit recently... wouldn't Regirock resemble the Stone Age, Regice resemble the Ice Age, Registeel resemble the Iron Age, and Regigigas resemble Pangaea? [[User:StewiesGiratina|StewiesGiratina]] 08:30, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
:there are lots of theorys about the regi's and what they (and their markings) represent but nothing has been released on this topic in any cannon. So everyone stop gong on about it! —[[User:Lord mada|Mada-sama]] ([[User talk:Lord mada|Talk to me!]])— 09:18, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

== Game Locations ==

Are we sure Regigigas is in the Snowpoint Temple? Or is the only one the event to get the Golems? [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 16:07, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
:It is. Nintendo'll give away a Regigigas to DP. Trade it to Platinum and get the Regis. Use the Regis to get Regigigas. *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 16:19, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
::Are the Platinum Regis required to get him, or can you use migrated or traded Regis? [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 16:23, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Any Regi trio. The Regigigss basically makes it easier for some who can't migrate. *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 16:25, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Thanks. That's what I wanted to make sure of. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 16:26, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

== Inclusion of Toys 'R Us Promotion? ==

I've been wondering whether or not someone should include the Toys 'R Us promotion into the article somewhere. It would give
users a glimpse at another way of obtaining the Colossal Pokemon. --[[User:Methaeus|Methaeus]] 07:46, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
:[[Regigigas_(Pokémon)#In_events|here]]. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 07:54, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

== Habitat error? ==

Habitat

It resides in the Snowpoint Temple, having done so for hundreds, maybe thousands of years. According to the braille in Generation III games, it was sealed away in order to protect people, and three keys (the Legendary Golems) were created so that only one with the power of Regirock, Regice, and Registeel would be able to catch it.

Since when was Regigigas around in Generation 3? [[User:QTR|QTR]] 01:55, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
:It's all part of the [[history of the Pokémon world]]. Read up on your [[Sinnoh myths]] plz. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:57, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
::Shut the hell up, douchebag, I was asking a simple question, no need to go d-bag on me. [[User:QTR|QTR]] 02:01, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
:::What on earth? You ask a question. You get a response, with references to other articles. Sure, it might be "disputable", but it's a good point. You get angry, and start using vulgarity. I know I'm completely new to this wiki, and I'm not assuming any authority, but let me just say, I'm and admin on several other wikis, and if I was one here, I'd block you. This is a ''wiki'' about ''Pokémon''. It's not some kind of contest; and keep in mind - there are even 7-year-olds here. If these was, for instance, a Nintendo event, and you were discussing this with some other Pokémon fan there, would you start talking like this? Where I come from, you're called a "Vanub", abbreviating "'''V'''ulgar and/or '''A'''ngry '''Nub'''let". [[User:Timeroot|Timeroot]] [[User talk:Timeroot|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Timeroot|Contribs]] • [[Special:Editcount/Timeroot|Edit count]] 04:34, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
::Where I come from, you're called Slapnuts. CANADA, BITCH! [[User:QTR|QTR]] 23:07, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

== SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT. ==

In platinum...
You need an event regigigas to battle the legendary golems...AND.....you need the three legendary golems to battle the in-game regigigas.....?.....?...?
WTF???

Talk:In-game trade

2009-03-30T06:18:45Z

Twistedpokefan: /* A piece of info. */ new section

==Nicknames==
IMO, the nicknames section kind of makes things look cramped. It also kind of makes the article cross the line between providing useful information and being a triviafest. And the (necessary) all caps sticks out like a sore thumb and makes it look bad. But I'm mostly concerned about the cramping. What do you guys think? - [[User:System Error|System Error]]

:Mmm.. it IS a list of in-game trades however. I would like to know what nickname my Mr Mime is getting, and the cramping problem doesn't show up for me (I'm using a widescreen monitor though).. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 01:39, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
::*It's not somuch the fact that it takes up a lot of space as it is...well, actually, that pretty much is what it's about. It has little to do with the size of the screen, though. I am using a 1024x768 resolution, and it still looks bad. Maybe it's just that only one of the sections has the nicknames at the moment, though. - [[User:System Error|System Error]] 01:46, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
::{{U|TTEchidna}} suggested putting the nicks in on [[Talk:Trade]] in May. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 01:41, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
:::*Yes, I know. However, I designed the formatting tables for the page in August. Fun fact: I did want to put the nicknames into the tables originally, but I couldn't find a way to do so without making it look bad (plus there was the problem of actually getting them). I also wanted to explain some of them too, but there's not really much to explain about many of them (most are plays on the Pokemon's name or something very obvious), and there's really no place on the page for them, so I scrapped that idea even before the nickname one. [[User:System Error|System Error]] 02:02, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

== A piece of info. ==

When trading (in diamond/pearl and platinum)
-a shiny pokemon: the counterpart received is not shiny.
-the IVs of the pokemon obtained are different so are its base stats.
twistedpokefan.

Cynthia

2009-03-29T21:58:22Z

Twistedpokefan:

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region=[[Sinnoh]] |
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trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Pokémon champion|Champion]] |
numpkmncaught=Varies with canon |
game=yes |
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epname=Top-Down Training! |
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'''Cynthia''' (Japanese: '''シロナ''' ''Shirona'') is a [[Pokémon master]] and [[Pokémon champion|Elite Four Champion]] in {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}} and {{game|Platinum}}. Other than the player using a [[Gender#Trainers|female]] [[Player character|character]], she is the first known female [[Pokémon League]] [[Pokémon Champion|champion]] in the video game series.

==In the anime==
{{Bad picture|section}}
[[Image:Cynthia.jpg|thumb|left|220px|Cynthia in the anime]]
Cynthia was first mentioned in [[Lucian]]'s flashback in ''[[DP035|An Elite Meet and Greet]]'' along with the others members of the [[Sinnoh]] [[Elite Four]]. She made her first appearance in ''[[DP040|Top-Down Training!]]''.

She was first seen battling against [[Lucian]] with her {{TP|Cynthia|Garchomp}} on television. She then arrived in [[Amity Square]] where she was studying ancient tablets. [[Paul]] then challenged her to a battle. She defeated four of Paul's Pokémon using only her {{p|Garchomp}}.

She reappeared in ''[[DP096|Losing Its Lustrous]]'' and ''[[DP097|Double Team Turnover!]]'' where she tried to stop [[Team Galactic]] from stealing the [[Lustrous Orb]].

She has been seen battling and defeating {{EF|Aaron}} on [[television]] in ''[[DP100|Aiding the Enemy]]''.
{{left clear}}

===Pokémon===
This listing is of Cynthia's known Pokémon in the {{pkmn|anime}}:
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|-
| align=center | [[Image:445 f.png]] {{TP|Cynthia|Garchomp}}
| align=center | [[Image:423.png]] {{p|Gastrodon}}
|}

===Voice actors===
* '''Japanese'''
** 櫻井智 ''Tomo Sakurai''
* '''English'''
** [[Emily Jenness]]
* '''Brazilian'''
** [[Samira Fernandes]]
* '''Spanish'''
** María Antonia Rodríguez (Spain)

==In the games==
Cynthia helps the main character against [[Team Galactic]] in a point in the game. In {{v2|Platinum}}, when encountered in [[Eterna City]], she will give the {{player}} an {{pkmn|egg}} from which {{p|Togepi}} will hatch. She is also found on {{rt|214}} after the player has defeated [[Crasher Wake]] and received the {{Badge|Fen}}. She gives the player the [[SecretPotion]] to get past the {{p|Psyduck}} group on {{rt|210}}. She is very interested in mythology and history, and spends her time exploring various sites associated with [[Legendary Pokémon]] of the [[Sinnoh]] region. Cynthia lives in [[Celestic Town]] with her sister and grandparents.

In {{game|Platinum}}, once Giratina appears in Spear Pillar and takes Cyrus down with it, Cynthia rushes onto the scene and assists the player during their mission in the Distortion World.

Later, she reappears as the League Champion.

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===={{game|Platinum}}====
=====Battle one (pre-[[National Dex]])=====
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sprite1=Spr_4p_448.png|
p1=Lucario|
gender1=♂|
level1=76|
types1=2|
type11=Fighting|
type21=Steel|
ability1=Steadfast|
item1=None|
p1m1=Aura Sphere|p1m1t=Fighting|p1m1c=Special|
p1m2=Dragon Pulse|p1m2t=Dragon|p1m2c=Special|
p1m3=Psychic|p1m3t=Psychic|p1m3c=Special|
p1m4=Earthquake|p1m4t=Ground|p1m4c=Physical|
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p2=Milotic|
gender2=♀|
level2=74|
types2=1|
type12=Water|
ability2=Marvel Scale|
item2=None|
p2m1=Mirror Coat|p2m1t=Psychic|p2m1c=Special|
p2m2=Ice Beam|p2m2t=Ice|p2m2c=Special|
p2m3=Aqua Ring|p2m3t=Water|p2m3c=Status|
p2m4=Surf|p2m4t=Water|p2m4c=Special|
|sprite3=Spr 4p 445_f.png|
p3=Garchomp|
gender3=♀|
level3=78|
types3=2|
type13=Dragon|
type23=Ground|
ability3=Sand Veil|
item3=[[Sitrus Berry]]|
p3m1=Dragon Rush|p3m1t=Dragon|p3m1c=Physical|
p3m2=Brick Break|p3m2t=Fighting|p3m2c=Physical|
p3m3=Giga Impact|p3m3t=Normal|p3m3c=Physical|
p3m4=Earthquake|p3m4t=Ground|p3m4c=Physical}}
{{PartyFooter|color=525252}}

===Quotes===
====Before battle====
''"One look at you tells me many things about you. Together, you and your Pokémon overcame all the challenges you faced, however difficult. It means that you've triumphed over any personal weaknesses, too. The power you learned... I can feel it emanating from you. That's enough talking. Let's get on with why you're here. I, Cynthia, accept your challenge as the Pokémon League Champion! There won't be any letup from me!"''

OR

''"Have you been keeping well? Thank you for Mt. Coronet. And the Distortion World.{{tt|*|Pokémon Platinum only}} I'm truly grateful. Together, you and your Pokémon overcame all the challenges you faced, however difficult. It means that you've triumphed over any personal weaknesses, too. The power you learned... I can feel it emanating from you. But that's enough talk. Let's get on with why you're here. As the Pokémon League Champion, I accept your challenge!"''

The bottom quote is only said the ''very'' first time she is challenged. After winning at least once, it permanently changes to the top quote.

====During battle====
''"I can't remember the last time I was put in a corner like this!"''

''"I won't let this end yet! This match is too fun to let it end this easily!"''

====When defeated====
''"Just a few moments ago, you were the most powerful challenger. And just now, you became the most powerful of all the Trainers. You are now our newest Champion!"''

==In the manga==
===[[Pokémon Special]]===
She first appeared in Eterna City just after the trio's [[starters]] evolved. She lent them some help before the Gym challenge. She later appears after {{Special|Platina}}'s Gym challenge in [[Pastoria City]] to help some injured {{p|Psyduck}}.

====Pokémon====
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=200px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:Spr 4p 445 f.png]] {{p|Garchomp}}
| align=center | [[Image:442.png]] {{p|Spiritomb}}
|}

===[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure!|Pokémon DP]]===
====Pokémon====
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=200px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:Spr 4p 445 f.png]] {{p|Garchomp}}
| align=center | [[Image:448.png]] {{p|Lucario}}
|}

==In the TCG==
This listing is of cards mentioning or featuring Cynthia or her Pokémon in the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]].
{| {{bluetable}}
|- style="background: #DDDDFF;"
!Name
!Type
!Level
!Rarity
!Set
!Set no.
|-
| rowspan=2 | {{TCG ID|Legends Awakened|Cynthia's Feelings|131}} || rowspan=2 | - || rowspan=2 | - || {{rar|Uncommon}} || {{TCG|Legends Awakened}} || 131/146
|-
| (H) || {{TCG|Unnumbered Promotional cards}} (no English release) || -
|}

==Trivia==
* Cynthia is the first female [[non-player character|NPC]] Champion and the first NPC champion since {{ga|Blue}} to not have a type theme.
* Cynthia's hairbands resemble Lucario's "Aura Sensors" in shape, yet has a yellow stripe making it similar to an {{p|Umbreon}}'s ear.
* Cynthia is the only member of the Sinnoh [[Elite Four]] not to use any Pokémon released in [[Generation II]].
* As of {{v2|Platinum}}, Cynthia owns the only two non-[[Legendary]] Pokémon capable of learning the move {{m|Aura Sphere}}.
* In the pokemon games, Cynthia's pokemon have perfect IVs.

===Names===
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|-
|Japanese
|シロナ ''Shirona''
|The Japanese name for {{wp|chard}}. Contains 侈 ''shi,'' meaning extravagance or pride.
|-
|English, French, German
|Cynthia
|Possibly chosen due to similarity to "synthesis", or combining different pieces into one entity, which is a reference to the fact she combines several types in her arsenal. This name also refers to the Greek goddess Artemis, who is associated with the moon, which may be a parallel to Cyrus whose name refers to the sun.
|-
|Italian
|Camilla
|Probably derived from Camilla, an Amazon warrior described in the Aeneid.
|-
|Spanish
|Cintia
|Spanish equivalent of the name Cynthia.
|-
|Korean
|난천 ''Nancheon''
|
|-
|Chinese
|竹蘭 ''Zhú Lán''
|
|}

{{Champions}}
{{Elite Four of Sinnoh}}
{{animecharacters}}
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}

[[Category:Champions]]
[[Category:Anime characters]]
[[Category:Game characters]]
[[Category:Diamond and Pearl characters]]
[[Category:Platinum characters]]
[[Category:Female characters]]

[[de:Cynthia]]
[[fr:Cynthia]]
[[ja:シロナ]]
[[pl:Cynthia]]
[[pt:Cynthia]]

Cynthia

2009-03-29T21:57:18Z

Twistedpokefan:

{{CharacterInfobox|
name=Cynthia |
jname=シロナ |
tmname=Shirona |
image=[[Image:Shirona.jpg|170px]] |
caption=Art from Diamond and Pearl |
colors=yes|
eyes=Gray|
hair=Blond|
gender=Female |
hometown=[[Celestic Town]] |
region=[[Sinnoh]] |
relatives=[[Professor Carolina|Grandmother]], grandfather and a younger sister |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Pokémon champion|Champion]] |
numpkmncaught=Varies with canon |
game=yes |
generation={{gen|IV}} |
games={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}} |
leader=no |
elite=yes |
type=Various |
team=no |
brain=no |
anime=yes |
epnum=DP040 |
epname=Top-Down Training! |
enva= [[Emily Jenness]] |
java=Tomo Sakurai |
}}
'''Cynthia''' (Japanese: '''シロナ''' ''Shirona'') is a [[Pokémon master]] and [[Pokémon champion|Elite Four Champion]] in {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}} and {{game|Platinum}}. Other than the player using a [[Gender#Trainers|female]] [[Player character|character]], she is the first known female [[Pokémon League]] [[Pokémon Champion|champion]] in the video game series.

==In the anime==
{{Bad picture|section}}
[[Image:Cynthia.jpg|thumb|left|220px|Cynthia in the anime]]
Cynthia was first mentioned in [[Lucian]]'s flashback in ''[[DP035|An Elite Meet and Greet]]'' along with the others members of the [[Sinnoh]] [[Elite Four]]. She made her first appearance in ''[[DP040|Top-Down Training!]]''.

She was first seen battling against [[Lucian]] with her {{TP|Cynthia|Garchomp}} on television. She then arrived in [[Amity Square]] where she was studying ancient tablets. [[Paul]] then challenged her to a battle. She defeated four of Paul's Pokémon using only her {{p|Garchomp}}.

She reappeared in ''[[DP096|Losing Its Lustrous]]'' and ''[[DP097|Double Team Turnover!]]'' where she tried to stop [[Team Galactic]] from stealing the [[Lustrous Orb]].

She has been seen battling and defeating {{EF|Aaron}} on [[television]] in ''[[DP100|Aiding the Enemy]]''.
{{left clear}}

===Pokémon===
This listing is of Cynthia's known Pokémon in the {{pkmn|anime}}:
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=200px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:445 f.png]] {{TP|Cynthia|Garchomp}}
| align=center | [[Image:423.png]] {{p|Gastrodon}}
|}

===Voice actors===
* '''Japanese'''
** 櫻井智 ''Tomo Sakurai''
* '''English'''
** [[Emily Jenness]]
* '''Brazilian'''
** [[Samira Fernandes]]
* '''Spanish'''
** María Antonia Rodríguez (Spain)

==In the games==
Cynthia helps the main character against [[Team Galactic]] in a point in the game. In {{v2|Platinum}}, when encountered in [[Eterna City]], she will give the {{player}} an {{pkmn|egg}} from which {{p|Togepi}} will hatch. She is also found on {{rt|214}} after the player has defeated [[Crasher Wake]] and received the {{Badge|Fen}}. She gives the player the [[SecretPotion]] to get past the {{p|Psyduck}} group on {{rt|210}}. She is very interested in mythology and history, and spends her time exploring various sites associated with [[Legendary Pokémon]] of the [[Sinnoh]] region. Cynthia lives in [[Celestic Town]] with her sister and grandparents.

In {{game|Platinum}}, once Giratina appears in Spear Pillar and takes Cyrus down with it, Cynthia rushes onto the scene and assists the player during their mission in the Distortion World.

Later, she reappears as the League Champion.

===Pokémon===
===={{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}====
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type22=Poison|
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p2m3=Sludge Bomb|p2m3t=Poison|p2m3c=Special|
p2m4=Extrasensory|p2m4t=Psychic|p2m4c=Special|
|sprite3=Spr 4d 445_f.png|
p3=Garchomp|
gender3=♀|
level3=66|
types3=2|
type13=Dragon|
type23=Ground|
ability3=Sand Veil|
item3=[[Sitrus Berry]]|
p3m1=Dragon Rush|p3m1t=Dragon|p3m1c=Physical|
p3m2=Brick Break|p3m2t=Fighting|p3m2c=Physical|
p3m3=Giga Impact|p3m3t=Normal|p3m3c=Physical|
p3m4=Earthquake|p3m4t=Ground|p3m4c=Physical}}
{{PartyFooter|color=525252}}

===={{game|Platinum}}====
=====Battle one (pre-[[National Dex]])=====
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item1=None|
ability1=Pressure|
p1m1=Dark Pulse|p1m1t=Dark|p1m1c=Special|
p1m2=Psychic|p1m2t=Psychic|p1m2c=Special|
p1m3=Silver Wind|p1m3t=Bug|p1m3c=Special|
p1m4=Shadow Ball|p1m4t=Ghost|p1m4c=Special|
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p2m2=Sludge Bomb|p2m2t=Poison|p2m2c=Special|
p2m3=Toxic|p2m3t=Poison|p2m3c=Status|
p2m4=Extrasensory|p2m4t=Psychic|p2m4c=Special|
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p3=Togekiss|
gender3=♂|
level3=60|
types3=2|
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type23=Flying|
ability3=Hustle|
item3=None|
p3m1=Air Slash|p3m1t=Flying|p3m1c=Special|
p3m2=Aura Sphere|p3m2t=Fighting|p3m2c=Special|
p3m3=Water Pulse|p3m3t=Water|p3m3c=Special|
p3m4=Shock Wave|p3m4t=Electric|p3m4c=Special}}
{{PartyDiv|color=525252}}
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p1m4=Stone Edge|p1m4t=Rock|p1m4c=Physical|
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gender2=♀|
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|sprite3=Spr 4p 445_f.png|
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p3m2=Flamethrower|p3m2t=Fire|p3m2c=Special|
p3m3=Giga Impact|p3m3t=Normal|p3m3c=Physical|
p3m4=Earthquake|p3m4t=Ground|p3m4c=Physical}}
{{PartyFooter|color=525252}}

=====Battle two (post-National Dex)=====

{{PartyHeader|color=525252|sprite=CynthiaPlatinum.gif|prize={{pdollar}}[[Pokémon Dollar|????]]|class=[[Champion]]|name=Cynthia|game={{v2|Platinum}}|location=[[Pokémon League (Sinnoh)|Pokémon League]]}}
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p1m2=Psychic|p1m2t=Psychic|p1m2c=Special|
p1m3=Silver Wind|p1m3t=Bug|p1m3c=Special|
p1m4=Ominous Wind|p1m4t=Ghost|p1m4c=Special|
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p2=Roserade|
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level2=74|
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type22=Poison|
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p2m3=Shadow Ball|p2m3t=Ghost|p2m3c=Special|
p2m4=Extrasensory|p2m4t=Psychic|p2m4c=Special|
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p1m2=Dragon Pulse|p1m2t=Dragon|p1m2c=Special|
p1m3=Psychic|p1m3t=Psychic|p1m3c=Special|
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item2=None|
p2m1=Mirror Coat|p2m1t=Psychic|p2m1c=Special|
p2m2=Ice Beam|p2m2t=Ice|p2m2c=Special|
p2m3=Aqua Ring|p2m3t=Water|p2m3c=Status|
p2m4=Surf|p2m4t=Water|p2m4c=Special|
|sprite3=Spr 4p 445_f.png|
p3=Garchomp|
gender3=♀|
level3=78|
types3=2|
type13=Dragon|
type23=Ground|
ability3=Sand Veil|
item3=[[Sitrus Berry]]|
p3m1=Dragon Rush|p3m1t=Dragon|p3m1c=Physical|
p3m2=Brick Break|p3m2t=Fighting|p3m2c=Physical|
p3m3=Giga Impact|p3m3t=Normal|p3m3c=Physical|
p3m4=Earthquake|p3m4t=Ground|p3m4c=Physical}}
{{PartyFooter|color=525252}}

===Quotes===
====Before battle====
''"One look at you tells me many things about you. Together, you and your Pokémon overcame all the challenges you faced, however difficult. It means that you've triumphed over any personal weaknesses, too. The power you learned... I can feel it emanating from you. That's enough talking. Let's get on with why you're here. I, Cynthia, accept your challenge as the Pokémon League Champion! There won't be any letup from me!"''

OR

''"Have you been keeping well? Thank you for Mt. Coronet. And the Distortion World.{{tt|*|Pokémon Platinum only}} I'm truly grateful. Together, you and your Pokémon overcame all the challenges you faced, however difficult. It means that you've triumphed over any personal weaknesses, too. The power you learned... I can feel it emanating from you. But that's enough talk. Let's get on with why you're here. As the Pokémon League Champion, I accept your challenge!"''

The bottom quote is only said the ''very'' first time she is challenged. After winning at least once, it permanently changes to the top quote.

====During battle====
''"I can't remember the last time I was put in a corner like this!"''

''"I won't let this end yet! This match is too fun to let it end this easily!"''

====When defeated====
''"Just a few moments ago, you were the most powerful challenger. And just now, you became the most powerful of all the Trainers. You are now our newest Champion!"''

==In the manga==
===[[Pokémon Special]]===
She first appeared in Eterna City just after the trio's [[starters]] evolved. She lent them some help before the Gym challenge. She later appears after {{Special|Platina}}'s Gym challenge in [[Pastoria City]] to help some injured {{p|Psyduck}}.

====Pokémon====
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=200px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:Spr 4p 445 f.png]] {{p|Garchomp}}
| align=center | [[Image:442.png]] {{p|Spiritomb}}
|}

===[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure!|Pokémon DP]]===
====Pokémon====
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=200px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:Spr 4p 445 f.png]] {{p|Garchomp}}
| align=center | [[Image:448.png]] {{p|Lucario}}
|}

==In the TCG==
This listing is of cards mentioning or featuring Cynthia or her Pokémon in the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]].
{| {{bluetable}}
|- style="background: #DDDDFF;"
!Name
!Type
!Level
!Rarity
!Set
!Set no.
|-
| rowspan=2 | {{TCG ID|Legends Awakened|Cynthia's Feelings|131}} || rowspan=2 | - || rowspan=2 | - || {{rar|Uncommon}} || {{TCG|Legends Awakened}} || 131/146
|-
| (H) || {{TCG|Unnumbered Promotional cards}} (no English release) || -
|}

==Trivia==
* Cynthia is the first female [[non-player character|NPC]] Champion and the first NPC champion since {{ga|Blue}} to not have a type theme.
* Cynthia's hairbands resemble Lucario's "Aura Sensors" in shape, yet has a yellow stripe making it similar to an {{p|Umbreon}}'s ear.
* Cynthia is the only member of the Sinnoh [[Elite Four]] not to use any Pokémon released in [[Generation II]].
* As of {{v2|Platinum}}, Cynthia owns the only two non-[[Legendary]] Pokémon capable of learning the move {{m|Aura Sphere}}.
* In the pokemon games, cynthia's pokemon have perfect IVs.

===Names===
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|-
|Japanese
|シロナ ''Shirona''
|The Japanese name for {{wp|chard}}. Contains 侈 ''shi,'' meaning extravagance or pride.
|-
|English, French, German
|Cynthia
|Possibly chosen due to similarity to "synthesis", or combining different pieces into one entity, which is a reference to the fact she combines several types in her arsenal. This name also refers to the Greek goddess Artemis, who is associated with the moon, which may be a parallel to Cyrus whose name refers to the sun.
|-
|Italian
|Camilla
|Probably derived from Camilla, an Amazon warrior described in the Aeneid.
|-
|Spanish
|Cintia
|Spanish equivalent of the name Cynthia.
|-
|Korean
|난천 ''Nancheon''
|
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Talk:Friendship

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What happens if you give one of the bitter healing items to a Pokemon holding a Soothe Bell? --Ketsuban

:Even better question: What happen when you give a Pokémon that likes bitter food the bitter herbs? [[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]][[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|Agent]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|4]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|4]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|8]][[User talk:Optimus35|δ]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&Pearl|DP]]''' [[Image:Fighting-attack.png|Fighting]] 12:55, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:As for the first question: Giving bitter herbs are negative events so the Soothe Bell won't help there...
::Second, it's a different type of bitter, like earwax bitter. No one likes that kind. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:18, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

With evolution based on happiness, does the evolution occur when the happines level is reached, or when the pokemon grows a level at that happiness rating? --[[User:Mooresnakes|Mooresnakes]] 17:13, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

:The latter. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 17:24, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

::Thanks, i just looked down at the bottom of the page and i noticed it said that under pokemon evolutions. Sorry! --[[User:Mooresnakes|Mooresnakes]] 17:27, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

:What happen at the happiness if I trade my pokémon? --[[User:I.megaphone|I.megaphone]] 15:46, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

It resets the happiness. [[Image:Ani197MS.gif]][[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight Celtic]][[Image:Ani148MS.gif]] 15:56, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

thank--[[User:I.megaphone|I.megaphone]] 16:05, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

How the hell do you make a pokémon happy in Gen II? I know the methods, but it's almost impossible =S [[User:Hfc2x|Hfc2x]] 03:46, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:: You smack it over the head until it learns it either has the choice of being happy or being beaten with a stick. [[User:MasterRichmond|MasterRichmond]] 02:53, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

== An observation on egg hatching ==

"When a Pokémon is still in its egg, its happiness value is ignored and the happiness value is used as a decrementing step value that triggers the egg hatch when it reaches zero."
''Unlikely'' - Cheat search couldn't find any values in RAM that decreased by any amount each step. Also, if "decrementing step value" means the happiness value is subtracted from a seperate counter (which I couldn't find), why do higher values give longer wait times? On 50, the egg would "take a long time" to hatch, while on 1 it was almost ready. --[[User:Kyoufu Kawa|Kyoufu Kawa]] 18:18, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
: I'm an idiot. --[[User:Kyoufu Kawa|Kyoufu Kawa]] 19:34, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

== Justification Request - "positive event" ==

I was just wondering, what exactly constitutes to fulfilling the term "positive event". Is it simply all of the things that are above the statement which increase happiness or are there (other) specific things? --[[User:Arpaleggia|Arpaleggia]] 22:12, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

== Generation II Happiness Checking ==

Quickly putting: is there anyway to check a Pokémon's happiness in Generation II games? It'd be useful to know at least wether my Pokémon are at maximum happiness or not. -- [[User:Pro-mole|Professional Mole]] ([[User talk:Pro-mole|Talk here]]) 13:28, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
:There's a lady in Goldenrod somewhere. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 13:32, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
::Near the bike shop. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 19:37, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

== Herb Items ==

I have two Ambipoms, same level, same Attack IV, same nature and same Attack EVs.
I got them to from trade because a friend of mine had borrowed them.
One has Frustration and the other one Return.
I gave 10 Energy Roots to the first and walked less than 200 steps, and the second one, I did nothing but walk around (a little).

I used them in PBR, against the same Pokémon and Return caused much more damage than Frustration, but I thought Frustration should be meaximum power.

Can anyone explain? {{unsigned|Diby esp}}

Sorry, I forgot to sign [[User:Diby esp|Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp)]] 20:35, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
:Try again in a handheld version. Stadium‐style games tend to keep happiness at a specific value for all Pokémon. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 21:03, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

::Thank you! =) Ok, I will. By the way, the one with Frustration was holding a Silk Scarf =D [[User:Diby esp|Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp)]] 21:06, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

== Healing Items and Drink Items ==

In Generation IV, do these two types of items that help Pokémon recover HP have different Happiness bonuses?
I am asking because I have heard/read this from somewhere some time ago, and I would like to hear from Bulbapedia regarding this. Thank you. --[[User:HechEff|HechEff]] 12:20, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:I think its, stat vitamins, like Protein and Iron greatly boost happiness. Other items somewhat boost happiness, and herbal medicine lowers happiness. That's all I can think of. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]]. See my new and improved user page, and [[User talk:Missingno. Master|comment on it!]] 12:23, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

== Evolving a Golbat in pseudo-Gen I ==
Can [[Golbat]] evolve in [[Fire Red]] or [[Leaf Green]] before I have the [[national dex]]? If it does and its not in the [[Kanto dex]] does it end up being one of those Pokémon that doesn't have a dex number, kind of like a few of them that I traded from [[Colosseum]] on the Wi (in cube mode) into [[Sapphire]] on the GBA, before getting the national dex? [[User:Iliekmudkips|Iliekmudkips]] 23:52, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
:It won’t evolve. The Pokémon will glow but then return to normal, with text saying “…?”. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 01:33, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

== More info. ==

Does anyone know the values of happiness corresponding to one or two hearts on the friendship checker -being that 2 big hearts is max/255- ?

Talk:Pokémon Platinum Version

2009-03-21T13:43:35Z

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==Archives==
*[[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (discussions from November 30, 2007–September 18, 2008)

== And... The reviews are pouring in. ==

Somebody should add them to the article. I would but my computer is acting all screwy right now. All I know is Famitsu gave it a 36, the reveiwers all gave it 9's. [[User:Zabbethx|Zabbethx]] 19:16, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

== Well... ==

There's still a link to [[Torn World]] in here somewhere instead of [[Ruined World]], but I can't find it. It's important that we call it what it's been dubbed as by Nintendo, and that's the [[Ruined World]], not the mistranslated [[Torn World]]. So, if anyone happens to see that, would you mind changing it? Thanks. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 21:14, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
:"Torn" isn't a mistranslation. Nintendo just went with something different. (Just...clearing that up...) Anyway, I don't see any links to "Torn World" after using Ctrl+F.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:14, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
::ya, cause I fixed it--[[Blastoise (Pokémon)|K]][[Gary's Blastoise|kl]][[Blastoise (TCG)|l]][[User:Kkllnn|nn]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| blastoise]] 15:15, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

==Spring 2009 Rumor==

People, that magazine scan is from Beckett Magazine. The issue that is posted in is from last November, and it is the first thing listed in this page's archive.

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 03:49, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
:Beckett? Then there's ''no way'' it's going on the page.
:Got that, everyone?--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:17, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
::And the English translations normally take about 6-8 months to come out anyways. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 01:08, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I personally agree with the rumor, but we still need reliable sources on release dates.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:13, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:::As do I, since Pt came out in Japan two weeks before DP's second anniversary, the same thing would likely happen with the English. But yes, the Beckett rumor has been around since before JAPAN had a concrete date. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:28, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

==Resort Area Villas==
Can anyone post a pic of that? {{unsigned|Drybones}}
:A gallery isn't necesary anymore. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 06:21, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

A picture would be nice.
[[User:Drybones|Drybones]] 09:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)Drybones: A member of Team Rootbeer.
:There are a lot more things that deserve an image on this article than the villa. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 10:31, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

== The 'Un-DeFog-able Mist' in Eterna Forest... ==

Seems more like shadows being cast by Forest Canopy than the mist, with shafts of light breaking through and leaving those patches... Using the picture of Gardenia outside the Old Chateau in the [[Eterna Forest]] article as a reference, there's even an edging to it where it thins and lets a little more light through.

[[Image:Old chateau out.PNG]]

Or am I just being crazy? --[[User:JaffaJHDA|JaffaJHDA]] 17:26, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
:I didn't understand... but seems like you think that it is fog? It's obvious that it's nothing but the shadows of the clouds, or the suppossed overgrown trees that cover the sky. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 20:28, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
::That's what Jaffa is trying to tell people. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 05:29, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Sorry, I should have made myself more clear... It's listed in the 'Map Changes' section as a 'Mist' that can't be DeFog-ed and it's been bugging me for a while. I didn't want to jump right in and edit it without opening up a discussion first, just in case someone takes offense or disagrees... --[[User:JaffaJHDA|JaffaJHDA]] 10:52, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
::::It needs to be changed. It's misleading. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 18:27, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:That screen-shot is way too dark. Seriously, that shadow is nowhere as powerful on a real {{tt|DS|DS Lite with lowest back-light setting}}. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 20:17, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't look like fog. Fog is more of a white. If it's not shadow cast by the trees, it would be smog. [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 10:19, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:I thought I said above it was a shadow..? [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 10:25, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Hey...wait just a minute here. I think I see a HUGE mistake. These shadows are supposed to be coming from the froest canopy but, where are the trunks of these giant, overhead trees? All I can see here are the smaller trees lining the path. [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 16:39, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
:Doesn't really matter. We'll find out when the game is realeased in English. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 17:04, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
::Don't you have imagination? These games are RPGs!!! Houses are bigger inside than outside, don't you note it? It's because you need more imagination. Don't you remember the Ilex Forest? Those trees were even smaller than Eterna's ones, but there was a sign right after the shrine that said "Ilex Forest is dark because the trees cover the sky". It seems like they wanted to do something like that. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 21:11, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Of course I notice that houses are bigger on the inside. I just figure that the character (and other characters) is smaller when outside than what the sprite suggests and its inside size is the 'true' size. Well, the game makers have been making mistakes for ages; shadows with no trees to cast them. [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 14:12, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

== Release Date ==

I added the Japanese release date to the first paragraph; if you have any problems with it, do what you wish. [[User:Mwakin21|Mwakin21]] 20:09, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

== My Pokémon Ranch Patch ==

I read this on Serebii that they got info on the patch for my Pokémon ranch for japan. Its unknown if other patches will come out in different languages. It's free to upgrade notice UPGRADE which means you have to already have it. [[User:Luckario|Luckario]] 21:43, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:It's not released as a patch as such. I believe it will just be re-download, like other updated titles. Anyone who hasn't brought it after it gets updated, will just download the updated version. That's how I understand it anyway, and yes - I have a Wii and have updated software on it. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 11:56, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

== Crud.... ==

Can somebody please go through the whole Platinum article to search for spelling and grammar mistakes? I had done that yesterday, even making the same changes to the trivia entry that Hfc2x just edited, but I forgot to save, leading to the changes being lost. I don't have time in the next few days to go through again, so to whoever does, thanks! [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 20:32, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

== Tense Error? ==

I went through a few bits of the article, and I saw many "will be" and other such future tense verbs. Now that the game is out, shouldn't the verbs be in the present tense? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 21:36, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
:They should, but im not going to do such a boring job if you wanna go thrugh them all you can --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
::Yes they should be. Thanks for looking while I was gone. And thank you to UltimateSephiroth for actually changing it. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 18:52, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Im so glad you found something to do on a Sunday. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:::You're welcome, though I reckon editing only a few mistakes :P UltimateSephiroth ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|user]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|contrib]]) 18:12, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
:::At least it's something. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 20:44, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

== Comestic "Error" Trivia ==
About that, I would like to point out that this is the Torn World.... rules need not apply. I would not be surprised if this was on purpose. Keep in mind that the Platinum Orb is the most unique item in Pokémon History... it disappears in link battles with other versions. The Orb may be seperately programmed due to this. {{Unsigned|Paperfairy}}
:Please remember to sign next time. And for the Orb, this is in the Gen IV series. They wouldn't put things like that in. And I wouldn't go as far as saying that the PO is the most unique item. There is a set place to find it, while other items, like the Light Ball or Lucky Egg, are a very low find rate, and even then, it's totally random. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 18:34, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

::Actually, I don't think this is an error, when I got Giratina in the Turnback Cave in Diamond, after I got back to its room, I found a Rare Bone, and when I picked it up the same thing happened, the "[PLAYER] received a Rare Bone" appears before the item disappeared. Maybe this isn't a "Cosmetic Error", it seems like its somehow linked to Giratina. [[User:Heaven Arceus|Heaven Arceus]] 01:16, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

== Mom? ==

Let's discuss this, then. I believe "Mom" is refered to as Johanna in the contest hall by Keira (and during contests). Does this seem like enough reason to call her Johanna? --[[User:Blazevoir|Blaze]][[User talk:Blazevoir|voir]][[Special:Contributions/Blazevoir|!!]]''' 01:05, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

:That did come to mind, but it is more practical to just say "the player's mother". [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 01:20, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, I guess you're right.'''--[[User:Blazevoir|Blaze]][[User talk:Blazevoir|voir]][[Special:Contributions/Blazevoir|!!]]''' 01:21, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Exactly, the only reason {{u|Urutapu}} is being like this is because the original edit was made by me. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:Uh, Admins (usually) aren't that shallow. All the other games didn't name the player's mom, but Diamond and Pearl, and I assume Platinum, did. However, would anyone ever call their own mother by their name? No, they would call her "Mom". Therefore, Bulbapedia should probably do the same. I have mixed views about this, so I think an Admin should settle this.--[[User:Blazevoir|Blazevoir]][[User Talk:Blazevoir|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Blazevoir|Contribs]] 20:43, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

<big>SUCK UP</big> just cos someone is an admin doesnt mean they are right, it just means in the past they have added loads of stuff to Bulba.--[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:Please stop arguing over things like this, Guardian. You've gotten into word fights with people before, and nobody likes to have to see that. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:25, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
::And your being a troll over it. YAY!--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
You know, Guardian, you would be tolerated far more if you didn't go around acting like a tool. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 01:26, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

OMG people, learn some terminology, you cant just go around using words cause they seem to fit, if someone calls your a tool it means you are easily manipulated and people use you, which i am not. And a troll is someone who goes onto forums and tries to disturb it and attack people. And its not disrupting the peace to sell someone they are wrong, and sse it through, just because you lot give up your views so you can suck up and be admins doesn't mean I am a troll. Glinn, I think you are the tool. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]

Just quit it guys. This isn't helping anything. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:29, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
:OMG people, learn some terminology, you cant just go around using words cause they seem to fit, if someone calls your a tool it means you are easily manipulated and people use you, which i am not. And a troll is someone who goes onto forums and tries to disturb it and attack people. And its not disrupting the peace to sell someone they are wrong, and sse it through, just because you lot give up your views so you can suck up and be admins doesn't mean I am a troll. Glinn, I think you are the tool. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
::Thanks for the great Example.--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:::Yes, it is rather amusing to see people attempt to make an attempt on my use of the English language, while at the same time screwing it up themselves.
:::FYI Guardian, O person who thinks they know everything, the word "tool" has more than one meaning.
:::End of the discussion. [[User:GlinnMgraw|'''Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw''']] 02:25, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

== Yay ==

Please don't touch the links for mom or Johanna in this article any more. They have been fixed by Kkllnn, and to avoid fights, don't change them again.
::And I realize that this sounds like I'm trying to be an admin, but I don't want to have things constantly changing in the articles. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:43, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

I thought these pages were to help add on to the article! Please, i'm not from Bukbapedia, but i LOVE Pokemon,so if you will please suck it up! we are all people here! Does it matter if some of us are admins?? (although i have no clue what that is)! [[User: Kasumi12]] 19:02 19 November 2008 (utc)
:The pages ARE for helping, but people were fighting over how to do the links. And I was saying I'm not an admin (administrator), but my request made me sound like I was pretending to be one. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 04:31, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
::???? How did ''I'' fix them? All I did was put a simpler link...--The [[Blastoise (Pokémon)|Kk]][[Gary's Blastoise|ll]][[Blastoise (TCG)|nn]][[User:Kkllnn|ator]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| カメックス]] 21:47, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
:::People stopped changing it didn't they? [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:30, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

==Wikipedia release date==
over there they say that the Europe release date is Summer 2009, can someone check its source? [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 12:12, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
:The source does not say ANYTHING about the release date, not even for Japan. And you have to remember, Wikipedia isn't the best source, as anybody can go in and edit things. The Euro release date is a speculation, as is the U.S. release. We can only assume it will be released in the next year or so. The only thing said about releases in the source article is this: "If this feature makes it to the European release - and we've no reason to believe it won't - then we'll be very happy Bunearys indeed." And the quote is referencing the Wi-fi upgrades only. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 18:31, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

== Game before anime ==

the recent jap episode is clearly based on PT, you know the one with Rotom, so the game has to be released before that episode airs to follow the rule of game before anime. So if some geeks could work out when this Rotom episode should air in USA, then look around 3 months prior to that date, that would likely be the release date

::Evidence:
*In japan PT was released on Sep 13, 3 months later = dec 13, now admitedly the episode aired a little bit different than that date, but its still close. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]

:Math time. The most recent episode came out about 5 months after it came out in Japan. So, based on your logic, Platinum would come out in February, right? I think that's a little too early.—[[User:Blazevoir|Blazevoir]][[User Talk:Blazevoir|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Blazevoir|Contribs]] 21:59, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

No, not my logic at all. How can i explain this better.

*this episode (Rotom one) is directly linked to platinum, as it is about a platinum only event.
*General rule is that the game comes out before the anime
*So if you can work out when this particular episdoe (Rotom one) will air in USA, then you know that Platinum has to come out before that.

So if there is a geek who is willing to work out when each episode will air, find out when the Rotom one airs in USA and then we know that Platinum will come out say 3 months before that. As Platinum needs to be released before an episode in the anime relating to Platinum can be released. If the general rule isnt to be broken. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:Who says they can't stop airing new episodes until Platinum is released? '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 21:35, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

good point, they could put the show on hiatus, although this has only happened once due to PGZ --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]

If I can remember right, the dubs come out anywhere from 1-3 months after the episode shows. This'll give us untill January-March to get Platinum if you're theory is correct, Guardian. Unfortunately for us, I doubt we'll get it by then... but who knows? The Pokémon translators have pulled through at times we wouldn't expect. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:11, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
:If you get Pt within three months, you Americans are very lucky. My brother just bought a DS Lite and Pokémon Diamond, and it bugs me because I decided to wait until Platinum which supposedly lands in Europe as late as next summer... Let's hope the translators have switched the turbo switch on :P '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 22:14, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
:Why don't you just order one when they come out here then? I know it would be a bit more expensive, but you would get it at least a month, if not more, earlier. Unless you don't care THAT much. I would be spazzing out if I lived where you do, from lack of Pokémon when I needed it. :) [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:20, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
::I give it April, still. It comes out the same amount of time after JpPt as USDP did after JpDP... April 7. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:33, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
:::True. All we can do right now is guess and hope it comes out before we die. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:36, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

i dunno about you, but im not planning on dying next year --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:People seldom plan their death except in cases of suicide. And this is totally offtopic, so it should be stopped right here. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 22:49, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
::The anime is moving fast, so I don't know about this. Unless the developers hurry up and get the game to us, season 12 will begin without it. Already, Shaymin is being revealed, but Arceus won't be until the game is released. [[User:Bulbapedian|Bulbapedian]] - [[User talk:Bulbapedian|Talk]] 22:52, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Hehe... you guys took me too literally. I didn't really mean die. I meant we should hope it comes out in English and that the Japanses aren't selfish this time. BUT it already has an English release date, so we don't have to worry any more. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:38, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

== Possible release source ==

I dunno what you guys will think about this, but someone added to the WP article. [http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Pokemon-Platinum-Nintendo-DS-045496740177/sem/rpsm/oid/232753/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do] No idea how legit it is. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 05:14, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
:It was immediately removed from Wikipedia because retailers make up dates. However, I doubt things like the game's features (Wi-Fi Plaza, Distortion World) came from anywhere but Nintendo. Still, I'd wait for a press release directly from Nintendo.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 06:08, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
::Well, Mr Boss-Guy Echidna seems to think its accurate enough. Teh page iz protected :( Now trom can't edit — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 07:24, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Damn right it's protected. Plus, Circuit City did seem to get the info straight from Ninty. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:30, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Why are you guys doubting Circuit City? If the game's good enough for them to sell it, then why would they lie? [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:39, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
:From like, half an inch above: "It was immediately removed from Wikipedia because '''retailers make up dates'''." It doesn't seem to be the case ''here'', but it ''is'' the usual case.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 02:50, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I realized that after I re-read everything on here. I tend to miss things like that when I'm tired. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:08, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

== Um.... problem. ==

Why are we still saying the release date is good, yet the link doesn't work any more? And yeah, I realize that this contradicts what I said above this. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:43, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
:Now that's odd, they pulled the whole game from the site :S I certainly don't know whether to believe that date or not. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 21:46, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
::Stupid Nintendo... I think that Circuit City did that accidentally then. (Why are we on at the same time every day?) [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:52, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Sounds like someone is guilty of putting up something they shouldn't have... [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 03:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

I checked Nintendo.com and it does not mention any release date for Pokemon Platinum in the US. So I don't think the date mentioned is accurate. [[User:drichard08|drichard08]] 14:48, 10 December 2008
:Read the bulbanews article. it was shortly taken down[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

==now I'm confused==

ok everyone is saying platinum isn't {{tt|officially|can't remember how to spell it}} revealed, but I have this weeks and last weeks {{tt|oficial|still can't remember}} nintendo magazine and they have mentioned it in both [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 23:18, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:Everyone knows its revealed, we're just not taking any of the info the say other than the release date seriously as there are 3 different translations of the [[Torn World]] floating around. Offical [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 23:43, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Still wrong: official [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 11:34, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Spell check is your friend. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 19:51, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
:Ah the benefits of firefox. not that i use spell check though[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::The fact that Circuit City moved so fast to remove it lends credence to the release. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:22, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:::I personally agree, going back on what I said before, that it was most likely a mistake that it was revealed. Either by an overenthusiastic employee, or Nintendo decided too late to not reveal the dates yet. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 03:51, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

==The Cruel Irony==

Beckett was right. It was right about not only Ranger 2 coming out in Fall, but they knew that Platinum would come out in Spring 2009. And to think an unofficial fan magazine knew about it before it was even revealed in Japan... [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 23:05, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

:General consensus was that it would be out Spring 2009. It wasn't just reported by them, it was reported by practically everyone. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 23:36, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

::Yes, but this was before anyone even knew about it in Japan. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 00:15, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

== Legendary encounters ==

If you read Pokemon.com's first english-texted picture of Pokémon Platinum,you will realize the text: "The Distortion World's Giratina appeared!"
Instead of the usual "wild so and so appeared!"!
I think that this will apply to all legendaries.
In my opinion it's a cool thing underlining the uniqueness of Giratina(and maybe other legendaries)
[[User:Uxie legend|Uxie http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/f/f8/Ani407MS.gif]] 13:20, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
:Hmmm... interesting. That's a new twist I didn't expect. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 16:28, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
:Do you plan on putting this in the article? If not..this doesn't need to be here. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 17:27, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
::Well, we COULD put it in either the Aesthetic or Gameplay Changes, trivia, or just leave it out for now. It just depends on if we agree it's important or not important enough. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 03:53, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
:::It'd be more {{tt|notable|important}} if it could be confirmed for ''all'' legends. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:36, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
::::I've been trying to find out if it's for only the Giratina and Shaymin formes, or for all legendaries. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 17:45, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

== First English Screenshot ==
[[Image:English_screenshot.PNG|thumb|First screenshot]]
We have confirmation of Pokémon Platinum on Pokemon.com but we also have the first screenshot of the game. It is the battle scene of Giratina in the Distortion World. Unfortunately, I can't load upload the picture on the Bulbagarden Archives because it keeps coming up with an error. This is so exciting its closer than we think. -- [[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 06:54, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

== Trivia Section Error ==

"Platinum is the first game to be named after a metal since Pokémon Gold and Silver. However, both Gold and Silver are also considered colors, making Platinum the first game named solely after a metal."

I beg to differ. Platinum is considered as much of a color as both gold and silver. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colors [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 04:55, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:Technically it isn't its own color. It's a silver, or a gray. It's like saying forest green and grass green are two totally different colors. They're both shades of green. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 17:47, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::Gold is a shade of yellow and silver is a shade of gray then. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 17:48, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Basically. But they were discovered as metals first, and then gold and silver eventually became colors. If you ask somebody on the streets what the color platinum looks like, a lot wouldn't know. If you ask what color IS platinum, they would know. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 17:52, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::::"Platinum" is still considered a color in the same sense that gold and silver are. To say that it isn't considered a color at all is both misleading and false. I've also read and heard descriptions of certain objects as being "platinum-colored", so it isn't completely unused. Regardless, this needs to be changed. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 23:24, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
I agree, and I never said it wan't a color. If I did, I meant to get to the point that a lot of people don't consider it a color. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 00:37, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:To be specific, Platinum looks like a lighter shade of silver. Basically, officially, it's a color.[[User:Hades666|Hades666]] 16:52, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

==Altered Forme==

I request that all "Another Formes" on this page be replaced with "Altered Forme," as that is the official English name. Thank you. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 19:58, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

:There ''are'' no instances of Another Forme on this page. Just checked. '''Edit:''' Ah. My mistake, they were previously changed. ''Merry Christmas from'' [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 20:03, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

==Europe Release 22 May 2009==

On the website Pokemon-France.com there is a possible Europe release date, 22 May 2009. This is not yet confirmed by Nintendo, but is likely to be the Europe release for Pokémon Platinum. [[User:Bisasam|Bisasam]] 10:02, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:Is it an official website?--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 10:09, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:: I think it's not an official Nintendo website, but Filb.de said, the source was reliable and believable. [[User:Bisasam|Bisasam]] 17:29, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Hmmmm... It seems likely that it is. But we shouldn't jump to conclusions yet. Wait until we have a bit more information on it.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 21:17, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
::::HMV says it's in July [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 21:20, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::well turns out it is confirmed released in Europe 22 of May [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 15:47, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

== Development section ==

Sure we add a "Development" section devoted to the the stages of development and pre-release information, not just to this game page but to all the games?--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 11:59, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:The beta pages are there for a reason. '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 12:13, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::Hmmmm... That is true. But, unfortunately it was removed from the page [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_Platinum_beta&diff=prev&oldid=583965 some time ago]. It kinda started a bit of an edit war on the page.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 12:18, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

== Unprotect ==

Can we unprotect the page so people can edit the article, there is still a lot of stuff to be added, stuff that has been confirmed. But I can't add it cause it's blocked. [[User:Super Max|'''Super''']][[Special:Contributions/Super Max|'''-''']][[User talk:Super Max|'''Max''']] 18:05, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, I agree. And someone needs to at the European release date, May 22, 2009.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 20:33, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, by now it should really be unprotected, I mean there's still a bit of info that needs to be added, yes, like the European release date. What admin can we get? I guess I'll put it in the page summary and if any admin sees this in recent changes, they'll hopefully check it out...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 05:52, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, I'll BUMP it. Now its times like these I wish I was an admin.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 11:50, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

There's a sigh... *SIGH*. When can we get it unprotected? Wait... if the admins think it should be protected until it comes out, we'll just have to live with that... I mean its just couple of edits and we're all mature people here, maybe an admin might put those edits on the page.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 11:55, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
:Maybe your right. Its just one date. They will come round with themselves soon.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 12:03, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
::It's not just a date, what about renaming Wi-Fi Square and Battle Recorder to their official English names (Wi-Fi Plaza and Vs. Recorder, respectively)? [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 14:51, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
:::We're the main editing force, yet our right to edit is unfairly limited because of admins' fondness of protecting. And it's not always easy to find an admin online (especially if someone lives in Europe, just like me). There is NO REAL REASON to hold this page protected. I'm all for UNPROTECTING IT? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:48, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
::::I agree. The article refers to [[Wi-Fi Plaza]] as Wi-Fi Square!--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' at 18:19, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Just calm down. They most likely have a good reason for keeping it protected. And if they don't, then it still isn't something to get angry about. Just wait. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 01:52, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::STFU! It IS something to be angry about! THERE IS NO FREAKIN' REASON TO KEEP THE PAGE PROTECTED ANYMORE! The admins just piss at us, so they don't unprotect the pages. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:59, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::So, what time is it over in Europe. Its about 10:00pm here in Australia. We need an admin who lives in one of this countries to be on at this time because I have noticed the lack of admins on at this hour.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 11:06, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::That means it's late and you're still not on bed. D: 7:00pm in our country. Since no admin around at this time, we should wait until someone wakes up to respond for this problem. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 11:11, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::It's currently 12 AM in my part of Europe. Yes, there's lack of admins here at this time and that's what annoys me. It's freakin' hard for me to catch an admin online, which stops me from editing really many pages. Another reason against that protect-mania among admins. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 11:12, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
They should space out the admins. There's like a clump before and there isn't any now. lol. I should go to bed shouldn't I. Its a school night too.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 11:16, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
::First, take it to the forums. Second, I doubt you guys could become an admin any time soon. And if you did, you'd have to change your attitudes. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 02:56, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
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The reason why it's staying protected until 3/22 is because people decide to jump the gun. We don't need that happening, we don't wanna waste edits to fix something that someone assumed. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:20, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

People! I agree with TTE! Take this immature "discussion" to the forums! Plus, you shouldn't talk rudely about the admins. Its their choice and I will act maturely and respect that choice. When the time for unprotection will come, I know for one that it will be the right time, plus its the time it comes out in America. I trust the admins and I look up to them. So, everyone start acting mature.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 10:30, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

:Oh, so Maturity = Lickspittling! GTFO. I hate lickspittles. I still think that keeping the page protecting is just stupid. People jumping the gun? Come on, those are just n00bs. Experienced users know Bulbapedia's policies and rules and they know NOT TO jump the gun. Really, protecting pages for such reason is like... keeping a shop closed just because a thief may rob it while it's open. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:58, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:: Very well said, I'll keep this in mind ^^ hehe. though, one question, what is ''Lickspittling''? I can't find a translation/explanation... [Greets, [[User:MewX|mewX]] ([[User talk:MewX|TALK]])] 15:13, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

YOU, yeah YOU just don't get it...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 21:20, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
::Stop. Like I said, it's no big deal, you got your reason, now leave it alone. They protect it from ''everybody'' so the new users don't feel like everybody's hating them. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 03:04, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

== Email functions ==

On the Pokémon Platinum website, it doesn't have the email function appearently, just Wii message support. --[[User:Anangryzapdos|Anangryzapdos]] 11:20, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

== Animated sprites ==

The article mistakenly informs that Platinum is the first game to have the Pokémon back sprites animated. It's untrue since that happens in every game since Emerald. Since the page is protected, a mod should correct it. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 15:15, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
:They're not the same kind of animation. In The other games, they just move back and forth or get bigger or something like that. In Platinum. They actually move. Such as Pikachu for example will move it's head to look behind it. Or Azumarril will do a little dance. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 15:51, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
'''True and False, I heard that Pokémon back sprites do what they do on the front. i don't know but i will find out.''' ''Anoritian''
::What Sketch has is correct. They have different BACK animation than before, not specifically different animation from when facing the player. There may be some similarities in both front and back animation, but it doesn't really matter to add that. "Their back sprites now animate much like their front sprites" is perfectly fine. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 19:08, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
:::OK, now I understand. I didn't had the idea that I was talking about a different type of animation. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 22:27, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

== Leaked. ==

Apparently the game has leaked six days ago...how is that even possible??

Talk:List of Pokémon by base stats in Generation VI

2009-03-17T02:11:26Z

Twistedpokefan: /* Additional Classification */ new section

Too big, I know, but dividing each atributte would make it bigger. I was thinking about dividing it into Baby, Basic, 2nd Evolution-middle, 2nd Evolution-end, 3rd Evolution and Legendary. What do you people think?01:21, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
:Well, it could use the <nowiki>{{p}}</nowiki> links. Are there ways to section off these kind of lists? And to get the <nowiki>{{pokelist}}</nowiki> template in there? [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 06:40, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
::This kind of list is not meant to be divided into sections. But I think we could add a totals/average column. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 07:05, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
:::Both, maybe? [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 19:23, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Someone knows how the images should be named to change the crosses? [[User:Gambler|Gambler]] 21:06, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

By the way, could we have an image, and maybe their type, put into the with the Pokémon? Just a thought ...[[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 22:50, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Also it is hard to follow the same line when reading horizontally, has anyone got any ideas on how we could fix that? [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 15:00, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

We could have alternating colours on every-other line... Hmmm... [[Image:Ani137MS.gif]][[User:Tesh|TESH]][[Image:Ani233MS.gif]][[User Talk:Tesh|TALK]][[Image:Ani474MS.gif]][[User:Tesh/Sandbox|SAND]] 21:21, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Why is Speed not the last stat in the list like it is in the video games? It would make it much easier to remember which column holds which stat after the headings scroll off the screen if they were presented in the same order as they are in the games. --[[User:Kitsunegami|Kitsunegami]] 03:41, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
: Also: how hard would it be to add a "Total" column? --[[User:Kitsunegami|Kitsunegami]] 06:48, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

== Misleading article name ==

I came to this page expecting a list of Pokemon organized in order of their base stats, but all I found was a list of Pokemon ''with'' their base stats. I don't have the time to do something on such a large scale as this, but perhaps someone should reorganize the list so its from highest to lowest (or vice versa)? If not that, perhaps simply change the title to just "List of base stats" or something to that affect. // [[User:Szayel Aporro|'''''SzayelAporro''''']] 18:00, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Really? I was expecting lowest to highest.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 18:04, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:Either way is fine, personally. I just think it should be organized in some way. // [[User:Szayel Aporro|'''''SzayelAporro''''']] 18:08, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

:: This is a sortable list. Just click the symbol at the top of the column you want to sort by. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 03:10, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

== Shedinja! ==

Shedinja's HP stat is actually infinite (∞), not 1. Therefore it shouldn't be counted in it's stat average. No Pokémon get weaker upon evolution, that's just unheard of. Who else agrees? [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] 18:36, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
:Infinite? That's funny; his [[Shedinja (Pokémon)#Base stats|article]] says one. // [[User talk:Szayel Aporro|'''''SzayelAporroGranz''''']][[Image:Ani282MS.gif]] 21:06, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
::Yes, but if Shedinja's HP is always 1, then the stat is incalculable, therefore regarding it as ∞. Meaning that it shouldn't be incuded in the stat average. [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] 21:10, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
:::It's 1/0. OH SHI-- '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 04:26, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Also. Scyther's Speed base stat hits the toilet when it evolves. And besides, what's the difference between 1 and 0? ...well, one. So all you'd do is take away 1/6 from the average. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 04:35, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
:"No Pokémon gets weaker upon evolution"? There are quite a few Pokémon who get slower when they evolve, and there's one case where the Pokémon's '''ATTACK''' stat goes down (Trapinch evolving into Vibrava). [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 17:50, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, that statement is wrong. But if a stat is a constant then you can't work out it's base. [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 20:33, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure that whatever method people are using to back-calculate stats, that if you are using division in the formula, for a Pokémon who's stat value never changes if there were such a division, you'd be dividing zero by zero - that is to say, you'd end up with no answer at all because the variable you are seeking is no longer actually part of the equation. If y=m+0*x, *any* value of x will work, infinity or zero or anything in between ... so saying that the base stat is infinite is silly.[[User:Iliekmudkips|Iliekmudkips]] 21:45, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

== Unified Special Stat? ==

In Red/Blue/Yellow, there was only one Special stat; in later games, they would split it and change either Sp. Attack or Sp. Defense. Anyway, this article doesn't have ANY information about a Pokémon's Special base stat in R/B/Y (from this chart, it's impossible to tell whether S.A. or S.D. was its Special stat in R/B/Y). Should a separate column be made, or highlight them in another color or something?{{unsigned|Blaziken257}}
:Well it's true though, special splitting into special attack, special defense.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 16:43, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
::That would be a good idea, though it might confuse people, since that wouldn't be considered in the stat average. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 04:30, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Why not have a page per Generation? [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 22:29, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Why nt just bold the stat that was the special stat? [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 13:08, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Make another page just for the first generation. The base stats are technically different there. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 01:06, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

== Little Character Pictures ==

We should have the Pokémon's pictures that you see when you view your party next to the Pokémon in the list, for easier reference. I saw this on another website and it was very well laid out. I forgot the site now though. [[User:TeePee-20.7|TeePee-20.7]] 16:17, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:This page is large enough already. Adding images will make it too big. [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 22:28, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

== Want to weed out Pokemon which can evolve ==

Asking for too much? --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 00:04, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
:Here's an idea: Have an "Evolves from" and an "Evolves into" with the images of the Pokémon that fit each category, as links to those pages. Eevee will have five images in the second column, but it will be easy and quick to see which Pokémon are in final forms. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 01:04, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

== Stat Total ==

You have the average, now how about thier base stats all added up. --[[User:Fxblaster|Fxblaster]] 03:28, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:That's just the average times 6. Actually, I think the total should be in the table, rather than the average. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 11:45, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::But when comparing Pokemon, talking about the average is more accurate than the stat total, so having an average is neccessary. Also, I think the stat total should be added too. [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 16:02, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
:::More accurate? Each one can be derived from the other. Having the average is not necessary in any way. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 05:34, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Well, Mew has a base stat total of 600 (all of theyre stats add up to this), but an average base stat of 100 (each stat is around about this number). So the average tells us what each stat should be around in a way. Either way, whether we have an average stat or not, this table isn't going to change much. I mean, add a Total cloumn to the table if you want to, but leave the average column. [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 09:16, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Just to make sure, you realize that avg=total/6, right? And that to calculate average, you calculate the total first? (Well, you don't HAVE to, but it's the easiest way.) --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 05:46, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, I know how to calculate averages. Like I said, add a total column if you want to. [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 18:57, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

== Additional Classification ==

I think one should be able to view base stats of pokemon by "Type" and "generation".This way , players can compare pokemon by type and generation availability to be able to choose their team.Twistedpokefan.