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<p>Tsovoa Levone: Wording error fixed</p> <hr /> <div>{{PokémonPrevNext/Head|type=Steel}}<br /> {{PokémonPrevNext/GO|species=Orthworm}}<br /> {{PokémonPrevNext/Pokémon|type=Steel|prevnum=0967|prev=Cyclizar|nextnum=0969|next=Glimmet|roundleft=bl|roundright=br}}<br /> |}<br /> {{Pokémon Infobox<br /> |name=Orthworm<br /> |jname=ミミズズ<br /> |tmname=Mimizuzu<br /> |ndex=0968<br /> |type1=Steel<br /> |category=Earthworm<br /> |height-ftin=8'02&quot;<br /> |height-m=2.5<br /> |weight-lbs=683.4<br /> |weight-kg=310.0<br /> |abilityn=1<br /> |ability1=Earth Eater<br /> |ability2=<br /> |abilityd=Sand Veil<br /> |egggroupn=1<br /> |egggroup1=Field<br /> |egggroup2=<br /> |eggcycles=35<br /> |evtotal=2<br /> |evhp=0<br /> |evat=0<br /> |evde=2<br /> |evsa=0<br /> |evsd=0<br /> |evsp=0<br /> |expyield=240<br /> |lv100exp=1250000<br /> |gendercode=127<br /> |color=Pink<br /> |catchrate=25<br /> |body=02<br /> |pokefordex=orthworm<br /> |generation=9<br /> |friendship=50<br /> }}<br /> '''Orthworm''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ミミズズ''' ''Mimizuzu'') is a {{type|Steel}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} introduced in [[Generation IX]].<br /> <br /> It is not known to [[Evolution|evolve]] into or from any other Pokémon.<br /> <br /> ==Biology==<br /> [[File:968Orthworm Dream 2.png|thumb|left|200px|Orthworm's parapodia]]<br /> Orthworm is a long, worm-like Pokémon with a six-segmented metal body. Its body is red on top and light orange on the bottom, except for its second segment, which is steel-colored. The first segment is its head, which contains its small, pale blue eyes and a large, toothless mouth. There are pairs of cyan ovals lining either side of its body from its third to fifth segments, while its second segment has three of such pairs. {{wp|Parapodium|Parapodia}}-like tendrils can extend from the ovals on its second segment, which resemble simple fists. <br /> <br /> When threatened, Orthworm uses its blue fist-like parapodia to pelt its opponent with a storm of punches. It lives in dry deserts, and eats iron from the soil to maintain its body. It is sometimes seen buried in the ground, with only its head visible.<br /> <br /> A {{pkmn2|giant}} Orthworm that lives in [[Paldea]]'s [[East Province (Area Three)]], feeding on [[Salty Herba Mystica]], is known as the [[Titan Pokémon|Lurking Steel Titan]]. <br /> <br /> Orthworm is the [[Signature Ability|only known Pokémon]] that can have {{a|Earth Eater}} as an [[Ability]].<br /> {{left clear}}<br /> <br /> ==Game data==<br /> [[File:Titan Orthworm SV.png|thumb|250px|The Lurking Steel Titan in {{g|Scarlet and Violet}}]]<br /> ===NPC appearances===<br /> * {{g|Scarlet and Violet}}: Orthworm, known as the Lurking Steel Titan, is a minor character and a boss encounter in the games. It became a [[Titan Pokémon]] after consuming some [[Herba Mystica]].<br /> ** The {{player}} and [[Arven]] eventually found it in [[East Province (Area Three)]] to find the [[Salty Herba Mystica|Herba Mystica it guards]] and defeated it, forcing it to flee. After both took the Herba Mystica, Orthworm became a normal-sized Pokémon once again. After this, it can be rematched in its original location, and will have the [[Mark|Titan Mark]] when captured.<br /> <br /> ===Pokédex entries===<br /> {{Dex/Header|type=Steel}}<br /> {{Dex/NA|gen=IX}}<br /> {{Dex/Gen/5|gen=IX|reg1=Paldea|num1=296|reg2=Kitakami|num2=96|reg3=Blueberry|reg4=Lumiose|reg5=Hyperspace}}<br /> {{Dex/NE|[[Pokémon Legends: Z-A|Legends: Z-A]]}}<br /> {{Dex/Entry1|v=Scarlet|t=FFF|entry=When attacked, this Pokémon will wield the tendrils on its body like fists and pelt the opponent with a storm of punches.}}<br /> {{Dex/Entry1|v=Violet|t=FFF|entry=This Pokémon lives in arid deserts. It maintains its metal body by consuming iron from the soil.}}<br /> |}<br /> |}<br /> {{Dex/Footer}}<br /> {|style=&quot;margin:auto; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{steel color dark}}; background:#{{steel color}}; font-size:80%; border-radius: 10px&quot;<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;border:2px solid #{{steel color light}}; background:#{{steel color light}} | [[File:Pokédex Image Orthworm SV.png|x200px]]<br /> |style=&quot;border:2px solid #{{steel color light}}; background:#{{steel color light}} | [[File:Pokédex Image Orthworm SV Kitakami.png|x200px]]<br /> |-<br /> | Orthworm in the {{color2|000|List of Pokémon by Paldea Pokédex number|Paldea Pokédex}}<br /> | Orthworm in the {{color2|000|List of Pokémon by Kitakami Pokédex number|Kitakami Pokédex}}<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ===Game locations===<br /> {{Availability/Header|type=Steel}}<br /> {{Availability/NA|gen=IX}}<br /> {{Availability/Gen|gen=IX}}<br /> {{Availability/Entry2|v=Scarlet|v2=Violet|t=FFF|t2=FFF|area=East Province: [[East Province (Area Three)|Area Three]]&lt;br&gt;West Province: [[Asado Desert]]&lt;br&gt;East Province: [[East Province (Area Three)|Area Three]]&lt;sup&gt;[[Titan Pokémon|Former Titan]]&lt;/sup&gt; ([[List of in-game event Pokémon in Pokémon Scarlet and Violet#Orthworm|Only one]])&lt;br&gt;[[Tera Raid Battle]]s ({{DL|List of 5★ Tera Raid Battles (Paldea)|Orthworm|5★}}, {{DL|List of 6★ Tera Raid Battles (Paldea)|Orthworm|6★}})}}<br /> {{Availability/Entry1|v=The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero|color={{Teal Mask color light}}|t={{Indigo Disk color}}|link=The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero|area=[[Apple Hills]], [[Reveler's Road]], [[Oni Mountain]], [[Oni's Maw]], [[Wistful Fields]], [[Paradise Barrens]], [[Kitakami Wilds]]}}<br /> {{Availability/Entry1/None|v=Legends: Z-A|area=Unobtainable}}<br /> |}<br /> |}<br /> {{Availability/Footer}}<br /> <br /> ====In side games====<br /> <br /> ===Held items===<br /> ===Stats===<br /> ====Base stats====<br /> {{Stats<br /> |type=Steel<br /> |HP=70<br /> |Attack=85<br /> |Defense=145<br /> |SpAtk=60<br /> |SpDef=55<br /> |Speed=65<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Type effectiveness===<br /> {{TypeEffectiveness<br /> |type1=Steel<br /> |Normal=50<br /> |Fighting=200<br /> |Flying=50<br /> |Poison=0<br /> |Ground=200<br /> |Rock=50<br /> |Bug=50<br /> |Ghost=100<br /> |Steel=50<br /> |Fire=200<br /> |Water=100<br /> |Grass=50<br /> |Electric=100<br /> |Psychic=50<br /> |Ice=50<br /> |Dragon=50<br /> |Dark=100<br /> |Fairy=50<br /> |notes=yes<br /> |steel=yes<br /> |newpoison=1<br /> |eartheater=maybe<br /> |newground=0<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Learnset===<br /> Orthworm is available in {{pkmn|Scarlet and Violet}}.<br /> ====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br /> {{learnlist/levelh/9|Orthworm|Steel|Steel|9}}<br /> {{learnlist/level9|1|Tackle|Normal|Physical|40|100|35}}<br /> {{learnlist/level9|1|Wrap|Normal|Physical|15|90|20}}<br /> {{learnlist/level9|1|Harden|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}<br /> {{learnlist/level9|7|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/level9|12|Smack Down|Rock|Physical|50|100|15}}<br /> {{learnlist/level9|16|Bulldoze|Ground|Physical|60|100|20}}<br /> {{learnlist/level9|21|Iron Head|Steel|Physical|80|100|15||'''}}<br /> {{learnlist/level9|26|Take Down|Normal|Physical|90|85|20}}<br /> {{learnlist/level9|30|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/level9|34|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/level9|38|Iron Defense|Steel|Status|—|—|15}}<br /> {{learnlist/level9|43|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|100|75|15||'''}}<br /> {{learnlist/level9|47|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/level9|52|Shed Tail|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/levelf/9|Orthworm|Steel|Steel|9}}<br /> <br /> ====By [[TM]]====<br /> {{learnlist/tmh/9|Orthworm|Steel|Steel|9}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM001|Take Down|Normal|Physical|90|85|20}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM005|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM007|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM025|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM028|Bulldoze|Ground|Physical|60|100|20}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM035|Mud Shot|Ground|Special|55|95|15}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM036|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|60|95|15}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM047|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM051|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM055|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM066|Body Slam|Normal|Physical|85|100|15}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM070|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM076|Rock Blast|Rock|Physical|25|90|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM084|Stomping Tantrum|Ground|Physical|75|100|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM085|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|5}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM086|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM089|Body Press|Fighting|Physical|80|100|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM090|Spikes|Ground|Status|—|—|20}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM093|Flash Cannon|Steel|Special|80|100|10||'''}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM099|Iron Head|Steel|Physical|80|100|15||'''}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM103|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM104|Iron Defense|Steel|Status|—|—|15}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM116|Stealth Rock|Rock|Status|—|—|20}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM121|Heavy Slam|Steel|Physical|—|100|10||'''}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM130|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM133|Earth Power|Ground|Special|90|100|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM149|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM152|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM163|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM170|Steel Beam|Steel|Special|140|95|5||'''}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM171|Tera Blast|Normal|Special|80|100|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM176|Sand Tomb|Ground|Physical|35|85|15}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM179|Smack Down|Rock|Physical|50|100|15}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM186|High Horsepower|Ground|Physical|95|95|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM204|Double-Edge|Normal|Physical|120|100|15}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM223|Metal Sound|Steel|Status|—|85|40}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm9|TM224|Curse|Ghost|Status|—|—|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tmf/9|Orthworm|Steel|Steel|9}}<br /> <br /> ====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br /> {{learnlist/breedh/9|Orthworm|Steel|Steel|9}}<br /> {{learnlist/breed9|{{MSP/H|0023|Ekans}}{{MSP/H|0024|Arbok}}{{MSP/H|0162|Furret}}{{MSP/H|0206|Dunsparce}}{{MSP/H|0982|Dudunsparce}}{{MSP/H|0336|Seviper}}{{MSP/H|0495|Snivy}}{{MSP/H|0496|Servine}}{{MSP/H|0497|Serperior}}{{MSP/H|0843|Silicobra}}{{MSP/H|0844|Sandaconda}}|Coil|Poison|Status|—|—|20|grid=6}}<br /> {{learnlist/breed9|{{MSP/H|0322|Numel}}{{MSP/H|0323|Camerupt}}{{MSP/H|0324|Torkoal}}{{MSP/H|0335|Zangoose}}{{MSP/H|0570|Zorua|form=-Hisui}}{{MSP/H|0571|Zoroark|form=-Hisui}}|Curse|Ghost|Status|—|—|10|grid=6}}<br /> {{learnlist/breed9|{{MSP/H|0028-Alola|Sandslash}}{{MSP/H|0863|Perrserker}}|Metal Burst|Steel|Physical|—|100|10|grid=6}}<br /> {{learnlist/breedf/9|Orthworm|Steel|Steel|9}}<br /> <br /> ====Special moves====<br /> {{learnlist/eventh/9|Orthworm|Steel|Steel|9}}<br /> {{learnlist/event9|[[List of in-game event Pokémon in Pokémon Scarlet and Violet#Orthworm|Former Titan Orthworm]]|Headbutt|Normal|Physical|70|100|15}}<br /> {{learnlist/eventf/9|Orthworm|Steel|Steel|9}}<br /> <br /> ===Side game data===<br /> {{Spindata/Head|type=Steel}}<br /> {{Spindata/GO|col=6|type=Steel|ndex=0968<br /> |hatch=N/A<br /> |buddy=5<br /> |evolution=N/A<br /> |stamina=172<br /> |attack=161<br /> |defense=219<br /> |fast={{m|Iron Tail}}, {{m|Mud-Slap}}<br /> |special={{m|Rock Tomb}}, {{m|Earthquake}}, {{m|Iron Head}}<br /> }}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ===Evolution data===<br /> &lt;div style=&quot;float:center; display:flex; flex-flow:row wrap;&quot;&gt;<br /> {{Evobox-1<br /> |type1=Steel<br /> |pictype=art<br /> |no1=0968<br /> |name1=Orthworm<br /> |type1-1=Steel}}<br /> &lt;/div&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Sprites===<br /> {{Spritebox/Header|type=steel}}<br /> {{Spritebox/NA|gen=IX}}<br /> &lt;!--{{Spritebox/9|ndex=0968}}--&gt;<br /> {{Spritebox/HOME|ndex=0968}}<br /> {{Spritebox/Footer|968|Orthworm}}<br /> <br /> ==In animation==<br /> [[File:Orthworm anime.png|thumb|250px|Orthworm in {{aniseries|HZ}}]]<br /> ===Main series===<br /> ====Major appearances====<br /> An Orthworm debuted in ''[[HZ039|Tinkatink's Ideal Hammer]]'', causing trouble on the [[Brave Olivine]] before being defeated by [[Dot]] with the help of {{TP|Dot|Quaxly}} and {{TP|Dot|Tinkatink}}.<br /> <br /> ====Minor appearances====<br /> <br /> ====Pokédex entries====<br /> {{Animedexheader|Paldea}}<br /> {{Animedexbody|HZ039|Orthworm|Liko's Rotom Phone|Orthworm, the Earthworm Pokémon. A {{t|Steel}} type. It inhabits dry, sandy areas. It eats iron in the soil to maintain its metalic body.}}<br /> {{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|Paldea}}<br /> <br /> ===Biri-Biri===<br /> An Orthworm, namely the [[Titan Pokémon|Lurking Steel Titan]], briefly appeared as a silhouette in the music video for [[Biri-Biri]].<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==In the manga==<br /> [[File:Titan Orthworm Adventures.png|thumb|190px|Orthworm in [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]<br /> ===Pokémon Adventures===<br /> A [[Titan Pokémon|Titan]] Orthworm debuted in [[PASV17]]. {{Scarlet}} and {{adv|Arven}} challenged the Lurking Steel Titan in order to obtain its supply of [[Herba Mystica]].<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==In the TCG==<br /> {{main|Orthworm (TCG)}}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> * Despite its [[Pokédex entry]] in {{pkmn|Scarlet and Violet|Pokémon Scarlet}} stating that Orthworm can &quot;wield the tendrils on its body like fists and pelt the opponent with a storm of punches,&quot; it cannot learn any {{Cat|punching moves}}.<br /> <br /> ===Origin===<br /> Orthworm appears to be based on an {{wp|earthworm}}, and also shares similarities to a {{wp|Rapid transit#Trains|subway train}}. Its tendrils may be derived from the pronounced {{wp|parapodia}} of {{wp|polychaete}}s, relatives of earthworms. It may also be inspired by the {{wp|Iberian worm lizard}}, a reptile that superficially resembles an earthworm that lives deep underground and is native to Spain and Portugal (where Paldea is based on). As a Steel-type Pokémon, its body coloring may be based on the element {{wp|copper}}, while its shiny coloration may be inspired by {{wp|Verdigris|copper rust}}.<br /> <br /> The [[Titan Pokémon|Titan]] Orthworm may take some inspiration from {{wp|giant earthworm}}s, the {{wp|Mongolian death worm}}, or giant sandworms, a common archetype of monster popularized through works like ''{{wp|Dune (franchise)|Dune}}'' and ''{{wp|Beetlejuice}}''.<br /> <br /> ====Name origin====<br /> Orthworm may be a combination of ''ore'', ''ortho-'' (prefix meaning &quot;straight&quot; or &quot;upright&quot;), ''{{wp|orthoclase}}'' (a mineral), and ''earthworm''.<br /> <br /> Mimizuzu may be a combination of 蚯蚓 ''mimizu'' (earthworm) and 埋める ''uzumeru'' (to bury).<br /> <br /> ==In other languages==<br /> {{Other languages|type=Steel|type2=Steel<br /> |ja=ミミズズ ''Mimizuzu''|jameaning=From {{tt|蚯蚓 ''mimizu''|earthworm}} and {{tt|埋める ''uzumeru''|to bury}}<br /> |fr=Ferdeter|frmeaning=From ''{{tt|fer|iron}}'' and ''{{tt|ver de terre|earthworm}}''<br /> |es=Orthworm|esmeaning=Same as English name<br /> |de=Schlurm|demeaning=From ''{{tt|schleppen|to tow or haul}}'' and ''{{tt|Wurm|worm}}''<br /> |it=Orthworm|itmeaning=Same as English name<br /> |ko=꿈트렁 ''Kkumteureong''|komeaning=From {{tt|꿈틀꿈틀 ''kkumteul-kkumteul''|wriggling}} and {{tt|지렁이 ''jireong-i|earthworm}}<br /> |zh_cmn=拖拖蚓 ''Tuōtuōyǐn''|zh_cmnmeaning=From {{tt|拖 ''tuō''|to drag}} and {{tt|蚯蚓 ''qiūyǐn''|earthworm}}<br /> |zh_yue=拖拖蚓 ''Tōtōyáhn''|zh_yuemeaning=From {{tt|拖 ''tō''|to drag}} and {{tt|蚯蚓 ''yāuyáhn''|earthworm}}<br /> |hi=केचुक्रॉल ''Kechucrawl''|himeaning=From {{tt|केंचुआ ''kẽchuā''|earthworm}} and ''crawl''<br /> |th=มิมิซึซึ ''Mimisuesue''|thmeaning=Transcription of Japanese name<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Related articles==<br /> * [[Titan Pokémon]]<br /> &lt;!--<br /> ==References==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;--&gt;<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> {{Titan Pokémon}}{{PokémonPrevNext/Head|type=Steel}}<br /> {{PokémonPrevNext/Pokémon|type=Steel|prevnum=0967|prev=Cyclizar|nextnum=0969|next=Glimmet}}<br /> |}<br /> {{Project Pokédex notice}}<br /> <br /> [[de:Schlurm]]<br /> [[es:Orthworm]]<br /> [[fr:Ferdeter]]<br /> [[it:Orthworm]]<br /> [[ja:ミミズズ]]<br /> [[zh:拖拖蚓]]</div>

Tsovoa Levone https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ethan_(game)&diff=4484608 2026-02-09T01:46:16Z

<p>Tsovoa Levone: Undo revision check your talk page, image evidence</p> <hr /> <div>{{Redirect|Hibiki|the [[character of the day]] in [[EP169|Beauty and the Breeder]]|Zane}}<br /> {{Redirect|Gold (game)|the game titled &quot;Pokémon Gold Version&quot;|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions}}<br /> {{Search|male protagonist whose default name is {{j|クリス}} in the Japanese version of {{game|Crystal}}|the female player character in {{game|Crystal}} with the same Japanese name|Kris (game)}}<br /> {{Character Infobox<br /> |color={{gold color}}<br /> |corecolor={{gold color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{gold color dark}}<br /> |name=Ethan<br /> |jname=ヒビキ<br /> |tmname=Hibiki<br /> |image=HeartGold SoulSilver Ethan.png<br /> |size=200px<br /> |caption=Artwork from ''{{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}''<br /> |gender=Male<br /> |height=4'11&quot; (1.50 m) {{sup/4|HGSS}}<br /> |eyes=Black{{tt|*|Generation II}}, Gray{{tt|*|Generation IV}}, Brown{{tt|*|HeartGold and SoulSilver opening animation}} <br /> |hair=Black{{tt|*|Generation II}}, Dark Blue{{tt|*|Generation IV}}<br /> |hometown=[[New Bark Town]]<br /> |region=[[Johto]]<br /> |relatives={{jo|Mom}} (as player)&lt;br&gt;[[Day-Care Couple|Grandparents]], unnamed father (as NPC)<br /> }}<br /> {{Character Infobox/Game<br /> |color={{gold color light}}<br /> |trainer=[[Pokémon Trainer]], [[player character]]<br /> |gen={{gen|II}}, {{gen|IV}}, {{gen|VII}}, {{gen|VIII}}, {{gen|IX}}<br /> |games=[[Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|Gold, Silver]], {{v2|Crystal}}, [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold, SoulSilver]]&lt;br&gt;{{pkmn|Puzzle Challenge}}, {{pkmn|Masters EX}}<br /> |counterpart=[[Ethan (Masters)]]<br /> |enva=Ted Sroka&lt;ref&gt;[https://twitter.com/TedSroka/status/1531473379286392832 Ted Sroka on Twitter]&lt;/ref&gt; &lt;small&gt;({{pkmn|Masters EX}})&lt;/small&gt;<br /> |jpva=Daisuke Hirose&lt;ref name=&quot;Daisuke Hirose&quot;&gt;[https://twitter.com/pokemas_game/status/1395259492292567041 Pokémon Masters EX Twitter]&lt;/ref&gt; &lt;small&gt;({{pkmn|Masters EX}})&lt;/small&gt;<br /> }}<br /> {{Character Infobox/Anime<br /> |color={{gold color light}}<br /> |series=''[[Pokémon the Series]]''&lt;br&gt;''[[Pokémon Generations]]''&lt;br&gt;''[[Pokémon Evolutions]]''<br /> |counterpart=[[Jimmy (Johto)]]<br /> |debut=''[[The Legend of Thunder!]]'' &lt;small&gt;([[Pokémon animated series|Animated series]]; Gen II)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;br&gt;''[[M13|Zoroark: Master of Illusions]]'' &lt;small&gt;([[Pokémon animated series|Animated series]]; Gen IV)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;br&gt;''[[PG04|The Lake of Rage]]'' &lt;small&gt;({{pkmn|Generations}})&lt;/small&gt;&lt;br&gt;''[[PE07|The Show]]'' &lt;small&gt;({{pkmn|Evolutions}})&lt;/small&gt;<br /> |enva=[[Sean Schemmel]] &lt;small&gt;({{jo|Jimmy}})&lt;/small&gt;<br /> |jpva=[[Kenji Nojima]] &lt;small&gt;({{jo|Jimmy}})&lt;/small&gt;<br /> }}<br /> {{Character Infobox/Manga<br /> |color={{gold color light}}<br /> |series=''[[Pokémon Adventures]]''&lt;br&gt;''[[Pokémon Pocket Monsters]]''&lt;br&gt;''[[Pokémon Gold &amp; Silver: The Golden Boys]]''&lt;br&gt;''[[Pocket Monsters HGSS Jō's Big Adventure]]''<br /> |counterpart=[[Gold (Adventures)]], [[Gold (Pocket Monsters)]], [[Gold (Golden Boys)]], [[Jō]]<br /> |debut=''[[PS091|Murkrow Row]]'' &lt;small&gt;({{pkmn|Adventures}})&lt;/small&gt;&lt;br&gt;''[[PM062|Welcome Back, Clefairy!!]]'' &lt;small&gt;({{pkmn|Pocket Monsters}})&lt;/small&gt;&lt;br&gt;''[[GB01|Let's Go! The Journey Towards The Championship]]'' &lt;small&gt;(''[[Pokémon Gold &amp; Silver: The Golden Boys|GB]]'')&lt;/small&gt;&lt;br&gt;''[[JBA1|Aim to be the Strongest! The Hot-Blooded Brotherly Combination!!]]'' &lt;small&gt;([[Pocket Monsters HGSS Jō's Big Adventure|JBA]])&lt;/small&gt;<br /> }}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> '''Ethan''' (Japanese: '''{{j|ヒビキ}}''' ''Hibiki'') is the main {{player|playable character}} in {{game|Gold and Silver|s}} and is the male choice in {{game|Crystal}}, {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}. In Crystal, his female counterpart is {{ga|Kris}}, while in HeartGold and SoulSilver, his female counterpart is {{ga|Lyra}}.<br /> <br /> ==In the core series games==<br /> ===As the protagonist===<br /> Ethan's journey as a {{pkmn|Trainer}} begins when [[Professor Elm]] asks him to run an errand for [[Mr. Pokémon]], who lives north of [[Cherrygrove City]] on {{rt|30|Johto}}. Because he may encounter dangerous [[wild Pokémon]] along the way, Elm gives him a choice between three Pokémon to protect him: {{p|Cyndaquil}}, {{p|Totodile}} or {{p|Chikorita}}.<br /> <br /> Ethan spots another boy his age watching Elm's Lab from outside. When Ethan tries to talk to him, the boy abruptly shoves him away. This boy, {{ga|Silver}}, will become Ethan's rival.<br /> <br /> Ethan continues onward and finally meets Mr. Pokémon and completes his errand. While there he meets [[Professor Oak]] who, upon realizing Ethan's bond with his new Pokémon, gives him a [[Pokédex]]. On his way back home, Ethan again meets Silver, who has stolen one of Elm's remaining Pokémon. After defeating the boy in battle, the boy tells Ethan his name{{sup/2|GSC}}/Ethan learns the boy's name from his dropped {{ga|Trainer Card}}{{sup/4|HGSS}}, and Ethan relays it to the police in New Bark Town. Professor Elm allows Ethan to keep the Pokémon he chose earlier, and also encourages him to compete in the [[Johto League]].<br /> <br /> Ethan begins on a Pokémon journey in the [[Johto]] [[region]], facing off against its eight [[Gym Leader]]s, defeating and disbanding the revived [[Team Rocket]], and becoming [[Pokémon Champion|Pokémon League Champion]] by defeating the [[Elite Four]] and its previous Champion, [[Lance]] at [[Indigo Plateau]]. Along the way he also teaches Silver to respect Pokémon as living creatures and not just as tools for battle.<br /> <br /> After being declared the Pokémon League Champion, Ethan then journeys by [[S.S. Aqua|ship]] from [[Olivine City]] to [[Vermilion City]] in [[Kanto]]. Traveling around that region, he battles against another set of eight Gym Leaders. Upon getting permission from [[Professor Oak]] in [[Pallet Town]], Ethan heads for [[Mt. Silver]] via {{rt|28|Kanto}}. His journey comes to a close when, deep in Mt. Silver's cave, he faces the Champion from Pallet Town, Pokémon Trainer {{ga|Red}}, who had been training there since shortly after he became Pokémon League Champion [[Generation I|three]] [[Generation III|years prior]].<br /> <br /> ===As a non-playable character===<br /> ====Pokémon Gold, Silver, and Crystal====<br /> In {{game|Crystal}}, if {{ga|Kris}} is selected, then the male player character does not appear in the game, except as an opponent in the [[Trainer House]]. Even when playing as Kris, the player's sprite is changed to Ethan's during link battles and in the [[Trainer House]].<br /> <br /> ====Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver====<br /> In {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, if playing as {{ga|Lyra}}, Ethan appears as an NPC in the game. When playing as Ethan, Lyra takes on this role instead.<br /> <br /> Ethan meets the player in [[New Bark Town]] at the start of the game. In this particular scene, he is seen with a {{p|Marill}}. He teaches the player how to catch Pokémon on {{rt|29|Johto}} (replacing the [[Dude]] from {{3v2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}). His grandparents run the [[Pokémon Day Care]] on {{rt|34|Johto}}. He also gives the player the [[Fashion Case]] in [[Goldenrod Tunnel]] and the [[Vs. Recorder]] on {{rt|31|Johto}}.<br /> <br /> When called from certain locations, Ethan will mention that something will happen if the player takes a certain Pokémon there.<br /> <br /> ====Pokémon====<br /> Ethan uses this party to show the {{player}} how to catch Pokémon when {{ga|Lyra}} is selected as the player character in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}.<br /> <br /> {{Party<br /> | background = {{gold color}}<br /> | border = {{gold color dark}}<br /> | headcolor = {{gold color light}}<br /> | sprite = HGSS Ethan Back.png<br /> | prize = none<br /> | class = {{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> | classlink = Pokémon Trainer<br /> | name = Ethan<br /> | location = Johto Route 29<br /> | locationname = Route 29<br /> | game = HGSS<br /> | pokemon = 1<br /> }}<br /> {{Pokémon<br /> | gen = 4<br /> | ndex = 0183<br /> | pokemon = Marill<br /> | gender = both<br /> | level = 5<br /> | type1 = Water<br /> | ability = Unknown<br /> | move1 = Tackle | move1type = Normal | move1cat = Physical<br /> | move2 = Defense Curl | move2type = Normal | move2cat = Status<br /> }}<br /> {{Party/end}}<br /> =====Caught in tutorial=====<br /> {{Pokémon<br /> |gen=4<br /> |ndex=019<br /> |pokemon=Rattata<br /> |type1=Normal<br /> |ability=Run Away|ability2=Guts<br /> |level=2<br /> |gender=both<br /> |move1=Tail Whip|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status}}<br /> <br /> =====Mentioned=====<br /> When called with the [[Pokégear]] at different locations, Ethan will mention he owns certain Pokémon.<br /> <br /> {| width=&quot;100px&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | {{ActivePoké|Ethan|Tauros|Spr 4h 128.png|Normal|size=80px|link=no}}♂{{tt|*|Mentioned at Route 38}}<br /> | {{ActivePoké|Ethan|Bulbasaur|Spr 4h 001.png|Grass|Poison|size=80px|link=no}}{{tt|*|Mentioned at Route 1}}<br /> | {{ActivePoké|Ethan|Porygon|Spr 4h 137.png|Normal|size=80px|link=no}}{{tt|*|Mentioned at Route 7}}<br /> | {{ActivePoké|Ethan|Tangela|Spr 4h 114.png|Grass|size=80px|link=no}}{{tt|*|Mentioned at Celadon City}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==In the spin-off games==<br /> [[File:SSBU Pokemon Trainer palette Ethan.png|200px|thumb|The male Pokémon Trainer's Ethan-based alternate palette in [[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]]]<br /> ===Pokémon Puzzle Challenge===<br /> Ethan is the [[player character]] in the Challenge mode of [[Pokémon Puzzle Challenge]]. In this mode, he challenges the [[Gym Leader]]s and [[Elite Four]] of [[Johto]] in puzzle games.<br /> <br /> ===[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]===<br /> While Ethan himself does not appear directly, a palette swap color scheme based on Ethan's design appears for the male {{OBP|Pokémon Trainer|Super Smash Bros.}}, who is an incarnation of {{ga|Red}}.<br /> <br /> ===[[Pokémon Masters EX]]===<br /> {{main|Ethan (Masters)}}<br /> Ethan, who is based on the [[player character]], forms a [[sync pair]] with {{p|Cyndaquil}} and its evolved forms {{p|Quilava}} and {{p|Typhlosion}}, along with {{p|Lugia}} and {{p|Ho-Oh}} in [[Pokémon Masters EX]]. Ethan became a playable sync pair on January 15, 2020.<br /> <br /> Ethan has also made notable appearances in the game's Main Stories, [[Legendary Adventures]] and the [[Villain Arc]]. Unlike in {{game|Crystal}}, both Ethan and {{mas|Kris}} coexist in the same game.<br /> <br /> {{PairDex/h|Gold}}<br /> {{PairDex|075|Ethan|trainerlink=Ethan (Masters)#Cyndaquil → Quilava → Typhlosion|trainerimg=Ethan|0157|Cyndaquil → Quilava → Typhlosion|gender=male|pokemonlink=Cyndaquil (Pokémon)|Fire|Rock|Special Strike|6|Sync Pair Scout}}<br /> {{PairDex|075|Ethan|master=yes|trainerlink=Ethan (Masters)#Lugia|trainerimg=Ethan Sygna|sygna=[[Sygna suit|Sygna Suit]]|0249|Lugia|Flying|Ghost|Special Strike|exrole=Field|6|Master Fair Sync Pair Scout}}<br /> {{PairDex|075|Ethan|trainerlink=Ethan (Masters)#Ho-Oh|trainerimg=Ethan|0250|Ho-Oh|buddy=yes|Fire|Rock|Sprint|exrole=Field|6|Variety Sync Pair Scout}}<br /> {{PairDex|075|Ethan|trainerlink=Ethan (Masters)#Lugia (Arc Suit)|trainerimg=Ethan Arc|sygna=[[Arc suit|Arc Suit]]|0249|Lugia|buddy=yes|arc=yes|Flying|Rock|Multi|exrole=Field|6|Arc Suit Fair Sync Pair Scout}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ===[[Pokémon GO]]===<br /> {{main|Style (GO)}}<br /> To commemorate the Johto Festival, Ethan's outfit from {{g|HeartGold and SoulSilver}} were released as free style options in [[Pokémon GO]].<br /> <br /> ==Quotes==<br /> {{main|Ethan (game)/Quotes}}<br /> <br /> ==Counterparts==<br /> [[File:Jimmy.png|thumb|250px|{{jo|Jimmy}}, Ethan's first animated counterpart]]<br /> ===In animation===<br /> ====''Pokémon the Series''====<br /> =====Jimmy=====<br /> {{main|Jimmy (Johto)}}<br /> {{jo|Jimmy}}, the main protagonist of ''[[The Legend of Thunder!]]'', is the first {{pkmn|animation}} counterpart of Ethan, and seems to be based on him in the most basic sense, much more than {{Ash}} was based on his game counterpart, {{ga|Red}}. {{jo|Jimmy}} follows Ethan's design from {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}. Much like Ethan, Jimmy is from [[New Bark Town]] and receives [[Jimmy's Typhlosion|a first partner Pokémon]] from Professor Elm. He also encounters the counterparts of [[Silver (game)#Counterparts|Silver]] and [[Marina (Johto)|Kris]] on his journey.<br /> <br /> =====Ethan=====<br /> Ethan's second counterpart has a cameo appearance at the beginning of ''[[M13|Zoroark: Master of Illusions]]'', where he had a {{pkmn|battle}} against Ash. This counterpart follows Ethan's updated design from {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}. This counterpart is identified as &quot;Hibiki&quot; (Ethan's Japanese name) in the Japanese DVD of the movie, supporting that this is Ethan and not an updated design for Jimmy.<br /> <br /> ======Pokémon======<br /> This listing is of Ethan's known {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} in {{aniseries|PTS}}:<br /> {{TrainerPoké<br /> |width=84<br /> |trainer=Ethan<br /> |pkmn=Donphan<br /> |type1=Ground<br /> |img=Ethan Donphan.png<br /> |epnum=M13<br /> |epname=Zoroark: Master of Illusions<br /> |desc=Ethan used {{p|Donphan}} in a battle against Ash at the beginning of the thirteenth movie. During the battle, it fought {{AP|Pikachu}}. It was not shown who won the battle.<br /> <br /> Donphan's only known move is {{m|Rollout}}.}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Ethan PG.png|thumb|250px|Ethan in [[Pokémon Generations]]]]<br /> <br /> ====Pokémon Generations====<br /> Ethan made two brief appearances in ''[[PG04|The Lake of Rage]]''. First, he and [[Lance]] infiltrated the [[Team Rocket HQ]] separately. He then communicated with Lance through his [[Pokégear]] about updates on their mission, and acted as a decoy for Lance's attacks.<br /> <br /> Much like the other [[player character]]s depicted in Pokémon Generations, Ethan doesn't have any lines of dialogue.<br /> <br /> [[File:Ethan Evolutions.png|thumb|left|250px|Ethan in [[Pokémon Evolutions]]]]<br /> ====GOTCHA!====<br /> Ethan briefly appeared in [[GOTCHA!]], using his {{p|Tyranitar}} and {{p|Ampharos}}.<br /> <br /> ====Pokémon Evolutions====<br /> Ethan briefly appeared in ''[[PE07|The Show]]'', where he was seen in [[Ecruteak City]].<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===In the manga===<br /> Ethan, like most player characters, also has several counterparts in the various Pokémon manga series.<br /> <br /> ====Pokémon Adventures====<br /> [[File:Gold HGSS Adventures 2.png|thumb|100px|Ethan's Pokémon Adventures counterpart, Gold]]<br /> {{main|Gold (Adventures)}}<br /> Gold from [[Pokémon Adventures]] is based on Ethan. He's a stubborn boy with a tendency towards gambling and bragging about himself. Having lived with Pokémon for all his life, he has the ability to make [[Pokémon Egg]]s hatch and draw out the potential of the [[baby Pokémon]] hatched from them.<br /> <br /> ====Pokémon Pocket Monsters====<br /> {{main|Gold (Pocket Monsters)}}<br /> Gold from [[Pokémon Pocket Monsters]] is based on Ethan.<br /> <br /> ====Pokémon Gold &amp; Silver: The Golden Boys====<br /> {{main|Gold (Golden Boys)}}<br /> Gold, the main character of [[Pokémon Gold &amp; Silver: The Golden Boys]], is based on Ethan.<br /> <br /> ====Pocket Monsters HGSS Jō's Big Adventure====<br /> {{main|Jō}}<br /> Jō from [[Pocket Monsters HGSS Jō's Big Adventure]] is based on Ethan.<br /> <br /> ====Pocket Monsters HeartGold &amp; SoulSilver Go! Go! Pokéathlon====<br /> {{main|Takashi}}<br /> Takashi from [[Pocket Monsters HeartGold &amp; SoulSilver Go! Go! Pokéathlon]] is based on Ethan.<br /> <br /> ====Pokémon HeartGold SoulSilver: Pokédex Completion Comic====<br /> {{main|Soul (PCC)}}<br /> Soul from [[Pokémon HeartGold SoulSilver: Pokédex Completion Comic]] is based on Ethan.<br /> <br /> ==In the TCG==<br /> The following is a list of cards mentioning or featuring Ethan or his Pokémon in the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]].<br /> {{card list/header|Ethan's Pokémon|Fire|nocat=yes}}<br /> {{card list/card|cardname={{TCG ID|Destined Rivals|Ethan's Pinsir|1}}|type=Grass|newmark=I|rows=2}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Grass|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Uncommon|ennum=001/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=U|jpnum=001/063}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Grass|jpset=MEGA Dream ex|jpnum=001/193}}<br /> <br /> {{card list/card|cardname={{TCG ID|Destined Rivals|Ethan's Cyndaquil|32}}|type=Fire|newmark=I|rows=1}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Common|ennum=032/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=C|jpnum=015/063}}<br /> <br /> {{card list/card|cardname={{TCG ID|Destined Rivals|Ethan's Quilava|33}}|type=Fire|newmark=I|rows=1}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Common|ennum=033/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=C|jpnum=016/063}}<br /> <br /> {{card list/card|cardname={{TCG ID|Destined Rivals|Ethan's Typhlosion|34}}|type=Fire|newmark=I|rows=2}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Rare|ennum=034/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=R|jpnum=017/063}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Illustration Rare|ennum=190/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=AR|jpnum=070/063}}<br /> <br /> {{card list/card|cardname={{TCG ID|Destined Rivals|Ethan's Slugma|35}}|type=Fire|newmark=I|rows=2}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Common|ennum=035/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=C|jpnum=018/063}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Ascended Heroes|enrarity=Common|ennum=023/217|jpset=MEGA Dream ex|jpnum=018/193}}<br /> <br /> {{card list/card|cardname={{TCG ID|Destined Rivals|Ethan's Magcargo|36}}|type=Fire|newmark=I|rows=3}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Rare|ennum=036/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=R|jpnum=019/063}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Ascended Heroes|enrarity=Rare|ennum=024/217|jpset=MEGA Dream ex|jpnum=019/193}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Ascended Heroes|enrarity=Illustration Rare|ennum=222/217|jpset=MEGA Dream ex|jprarity=AR|jpnum=197/193}}<br /> <br /> {{card list/card|cardname={{TCG ID|Destined Rivals|Ethan's Ho-Oh ex|39|Ethan's Ho-Oh}}{{ex}}|type=Fire|newmark=I|rows=6}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Double Rare|ennum=039/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=RR|jpnum=020/063}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Ultra Rare|ennum=209/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=SR|jpnum=077/063}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Special Illustration Rare|ennum=230/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=SAR|jpnum=086/063}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Hyper Rare|ennum=239/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=UR|jpnum=090/063}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|jpset=SV-P Promotional cards|jpsymbol=SetSymbol SMPromo|jpnum=254/SV-P}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Ascended Heroes|enrarity=Double Rare|ennum=026/217|jpset=MEGA Dream ex|jprarity=RR|jpnum=021/193}}<br /> <br /> {{card list/card|cardname={{TCG ID|Destined Rivals|Ethan's Pichu|71}}|type=Lightning|newmark=I|rows=2}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Lightning|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Common|ennum=071/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=C|jpnum=036/063}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Lightning|jpset=Start Deck 100 Battle Collection|jpnum=241/742}}<br /> <br /> {{card list/card|cardname={{TCG ID|Destined Rivals|Ethan's Sudowoodo|93}}|type=Fighting|newmark=I|rows=1}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fighting|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Common|ennum=093/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=C|jpnum=041/063}}<br /> <br /> {{card list/divider|Ethan's Trainer cards|Fire}}<br /> {{card list/card|cardname={{TCG ID|Destined Rivals|Ethan's Adventure|165}}|type=Supporter|newmark=I|rows=4}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Supporter|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Uncommon|ennum=165/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=U|jpnum=063/063}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Supporter|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Ultra Rare|ennum=221/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=SR|jpnum=084/063}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Supporter|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Special Illustration Rare|ennum=236/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=SAR|jpnum=089/063}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Supporter|jpset=MEGA Dream ex|jpnum=174/193}}<br /> {{cardlist/footer|Fire}}<br /> <br /> ==Gallery==<br /> :For images on {{mas|Ethan}} in {{g|Masters EX}}, see: [[Ethan (Masters)#Gallery|Ethan (Masters)]]<br /> ===Artwork===<br /> {| style=&quot;margin:auto; text-align:center; {{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color}}; font-size:80%;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; width:25%; height:100px&quot;| [[File:Gold Silver Ethan.png|100px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; width:25%; height:100px&quot;| [[File:Crystal Ethan.png|100px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; width:25%; height:100px&quot;| [[File:Gold Silver Ethan running.png|100px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; width:25%; height:100px&quot;| [[File:Gold Silver Ethan Pokégear.png|150px]]<br /> |-<br /> | Artwork from&lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|Gold and Silver}}<br /> | Artwork from&lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Pokémon Crystal Version|Crystal}}<br /> | Artwork from&lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Pokémon Crystal Version|Crystal}}<br /> | Checking his {{color2|000|Pokégear}}<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; height:100px&quot;| [[File:Gold Silver Ethan Time Capsule.png|150px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; height:100px&quot;| [[File:Game Freak Whitney Ethan.jpg|200px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; height:100px&quot;| [[File:Ruins of Alph.jpg|250px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; height:100px&quot;| [[File:Pokémon Gallery Encounter with Shining.png|250px]]<br /> |-<br /> | Approaching a {{color2|000|Time Capsule}}<br /> | Artwork from the {{color2|000|Game Freak}} website<br /> | In front of the {{color2|000|Ruins of Alph}}<br /> | Encountering a {{color2|000|Shiny Pokémon}}<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; overflow: hidden; height:100px&quot;| [[File:Arceus ruins art.png|250px]]<br /> | colspan style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; height:100px&quot;| [[File:HGSS Walking Pokémon.png|280px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; height:100px&quot;| [[File:Kotobukiya ArtFX J Figure Ethan Cyndaquil Lyra Chikorita.png|200px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; height:100px&quot;| [[File:Pokémon Day 2022 Johto Artwork.png|220px]]<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | In the {{color2|000|Sinjoh Ruins}}<br /> | {{color2|000|Walking Pokémon|Walking with Pokémon}}<br /> | Ethan and {{color2|000|Cyndaquil (Pokémon)|Cyndaquil}} concept artwork for {{color2|000|Kotobukiya figurines|Kotobukiya}} ArtFx J figurines<br /> | Artwork of Ethan fighting the {{color2|000|Red Gyarados}}&lt;br&gt;at the {{color2|000|Lake of Rage}} for {{color2|000|Pokémon Day}} by {{color2|000|Megumi Mizutani}}<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; height:100px&quot;| [[File:HM Whirlpool artwork.png|220px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; height:100px&quot;| [[File:Snorlax Stands Tall HGSS Project Snorlax.jpg|220px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; height:100px&quot;| [[File:Ethan Typhlosion Sleeves.jpg|220px]]<br /> |-<br /> | Artwork showcasing {{color2|000|Whirlpool (move)|Whirlpool}} from {{color2|000|Pokémon Daisuki Club}}<br /> | Artwork of Ethan battling {{color2|000|Red (game)|Red}}&lt;br&gt;on the summit of {{color2|000|Mt. Silver Cave|Mt. Silver}} for {{color2|000|Project Snorlax}} by {{color2|000|Kazuma Koda}}<br /> | TCG sleeve featuring Ethan and {{color2|000|Typhlosion}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ===Game assets===<br /> ====In the [[core series]]====<br /> {| style=&quot;font-size:80%; margin:auto; text-align:center; {{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color}}; color:#000&quot;<br /> | colspan=&quot;7&quot; style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color dark}}; font-size:125%; color:white&quot; |'''{{color2|fff|Generation II}}'''<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; height:80px; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:Spr GS SW97 Ethan.png|56px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; width:80px; height:80px; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:Spr GS Ethan.png|56px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; width:80px; height:80px; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:Spr C Ethan.png|56px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:SW97 Ethan Back.png|48px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; width:80px; height:80px; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:GSC Ethan Back.png|48px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:SW97 Ethan OD.png|16px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; width:80px; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:EthanGSCwalkdown.png|14px]]<br /> |-<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|G}}{{GameIcon|S}}''' &lt;br&gt; '''{{color2|000|Pokémon Gold and Silver Spaceworld '97 demo|Space World 1997 demo}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|G}}{{GameIcon|S}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|C}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|G}}{{GameIcon|S}}''' &lt;br&gt; '''{{color2|000|Pokémon Gold and Silver Spaceworld '97 demo|Space World 1997 demo}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; (Back)<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|G}}{{GameIcon|S}}{{GameIcon|C}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; (Back)<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|G}}{{GameIcon|S}}''' &lt;br&gt; '''{{color2|000|Pokémon Gold and Silver Spaceworld '97 demo|Space World 1997 demo}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; (Overworld)<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|G}}{{GameIcon|S}}{{GameIcon|C}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; (Overworld)<br /> |-<br /> | colspan=&quot;7&quot; style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color dark}}; font-size:125%; color:white&quot; |'''{{color2|fff|Generation IV}}'''<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:Spr HGSS Ethan.png|80px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:Spr HGSS Ethan 2.png|80px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:GoldHGSS beta back.png|80px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:HGSS Ethan Back.png|80px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:Ethan walking.png|85px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:Ethan opening.png|139px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:Spr EthanHGSSstart.png|57px]]<br /> |-<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|HG}}{{GameIcon|SS}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|HG}}{{GameIcon|SS}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; ({{color2|000|Pokéathlon}})<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|HG}}{{GameIcon|SS}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; ({{color2|000|Pokémon_HeartGold_and_SoulSilver_beta#Sprites|Pre-release}}, Back)<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|HG}}{{GameIcon|SS}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; (Back)<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|HG}}{{GameIcon|SS}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; ({{color2|000|Game_intro#Pokémon_HeartGold_and_SoulSilver|Intro}})<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|HG}}{{GameIcon|SS}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; ({{color2|000|Game_intro#Pokémon_HeartGold_and_SoulSilver|Intro}})<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|HG}}{{GameIcon|SS}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; ({{color2|000|Gender#In_the_core_series_games_2|Gender select}})<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; height:80px; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:EthanChallenge.png|96px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:EthanHGSSwalkdown.png|32px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:EthanAthHGSS.png|32px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:EthanTRHGSSwalkdown.png|32px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:HGSS Pokégear Icon Ethan.png|20px]]<br /> |-<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|HG}}{{GameIcon|SS}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; (VS)<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|HG}}{{GameIcon|SS}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; (Overworld)<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|HG}}{{GameIcon|SS}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; ({{color2|000|Pokéathlon}}, Overworld)<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|HG}}{{GameIcon|SS}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; ({{tccolor|Team Rocket Grunt}}, Overworld)<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|HG}}{{GameIcon|SS}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; ({{color2|000|Pokégear}})<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ====In [[Spin-off Pokémon games|other games]]====<br /> {| style=&quot;font-size:80%; margin:auto; text-align:center; {{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color}}; color:#000&quot;<br /> | colspan=&quot;7&quot; style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color dark}}; font-size:125%; color:white&quot; |'''{{color2|fff|Generation II}}'''<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; width:100px; height:100px; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:Puzzle Challenge player.png|17px]]<br /> |-<br /> |'''{{color2|000|Pokémon Puzzle Challenge|Puzzle Challenge}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> [[File:Sugimori Jimmy anime.png|Concept art for ''[[Pokémon the Series]]'' by Ken Sugimori|thumb|220px]]<br /> * The {{2v2|Gold|Silver}} artwork was originally presented in the '''''Official Guidebook of [[Nintendo Space World]] '97''''' (Japanese: '''{{j|NINTENDOスペースワールド'97オフィシャルガイドブック}}'''), along with {{ga|Silver}}, {{prof|Oak}}, {{tc|School Kid|Schoolboy}}, {{tc|Lass}}, {{tc|Firebreather}}, [[Kimono Girl]], {{tc|Fisher}}, {{p|Ho-Oh}}, {{p|Slowking}}, {{p|Ampharos}}, {{p|Donphan}}, and the [[List of Pokémon by New Pokédex number|new Pokédex]].<br /> * A 1997 pamphlet describing {{2v2|Gold|Silver}} mentions that the protagonist has a brother three years his senior. However, this aspect of his character was discarded by the time of the final release.<br /> * Ethan is 4'11&quot; (1.50 m) tall and weighs 88.2&amp;nbsp;lbs (40&amp;nbsp;kg) in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}. This is stated when checking the heights and weights of certain {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} in the [[Pokédex]]. As such, {{p|Clefable}} and {{p|Latias}} are both the same weight as Ethan.<br /> * Ethan is the only male player character to have two female counterparts; {{ga|Kris}} and {{ga|Lyra}}, or two {{pkmn|animation}} counterparts; {{jo|Jimmy}} and a cameo appearance at the beginning of ''[[M13|Zoroark: Master of Illusions]]''.<br /> ** Ethan's first animation counterpart having a different name, Jimmy, likely stems from the fact that Ethan did not become his canon name until {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}.<br /> * The majority of his Japanese default names from {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}} are shared with {{ga|Red}} and {{ga|Lucas}}. The same holds true for their {{ga|Lyra|respective}} {{ga|Leaf|female}} {{ga|Dawn|counterparts}}.<br /> * On the &quot;Area&quot; map on the [[Pokédex]] in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, Ethan's headshot sprite shows his hat from {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}. An earlier, unused version of this sprite is also found within other scrapped [[Pokégear]] graphics data, in which {{ga|Kris}} appears instead of {{ga|Lyra}}.<br /> * In [[Generation IV]], Ethan is depicted with two different eye colors. His eyes are gray in his Generation IV artwork while they are brown in the HeartGold and SoulSilver games, as seen in the opening animation.<br /> * One of {{SSB|Pokémon Trainer}}'s palette swaps in [[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]] has a color scheme based on Ethan's appearance in {{game2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}.<br /> * The Japanese optional name カケル ''Kakeru'', along with the English optional name ''Chase'', were eventually given to the {{ga|Chase|male protagonist}} of [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]].<br /> <br /> ==Names==<br /> He was first named '''Ethan''' (Japanese: '''{{j|ヒビキ}}''' ''Hibiki'') when he appeared as a [[non-player character]] in [[Generation IV]] games. He is also known by {{mas|Ethan|the same name}} in [[Pokémon Masters EX]].<br /> <br /> In the game manuals from [[Generation II]], his name depends on the game version: '''Gold'''{{sup/2|G}}, '''Silver'''{{sup/2|S}}, or '''Chris'''{{sup/2|C}} (Japanese: '''{{j|ゴールド}}''', '''{{j|シルバー}}''', or '''{{j|クリス}}''').<br /> <br /> The different names are seen in the player's story from the game manuals. For instance:<br /> * ''&quot;The Professor showed '''Gold''' three Pokémon [...]&quot;'' (referring to the player in Pokémon Gold's manual)<br /> * ''&quot;The Professor showed '''Silver''' three Pokémon [...]&quot;'' (referring to the player in Pokémon Silver's manual)<br /> <br /> In the player's story from Pokémon Crystal's manual, the Japanese name '''{{j|クリス}}''' simultaneously refers to either player character. However, this was adapted as &quot;'''you'''&quot; instead in the English version. For instance:<br /> <br /> * Japanese version of Crystal's manual:<br /> *: 「'''クリス'''はパートナーとなる1{{ruby|匹|ぴき}}のポケモンを{{ruby|選|えら}}ぶと」 ('''''Kris/Chris''' chooses 1 partner Pokémon and [...]'')<br /> * English version of Crystal's manual:<br /> *: ''&quot;After '''you''' choose your Pokémon [...]&quot;''<br /> <br /> In several game screenshots from the English manual of Pokémon Crystal, the male player character is named '''Chris'''.<br /> <br /> In the [[Pokémon Gold and Silver Spaceworld '97 demo]], his name is '''{{j|サトシ}}'''{{sup/2|G}} ''Satoshi'' or '''{{j|シゲル}}'''{{sup/2|S}} ''Shigeru''. These are {{Ash}}'s and {{Gary}}'s respective Japanese names, and correspond to the second entry in the list of optional names for {{ga|Red}} and {{ga|Blue}} in {{game|Red and Green|s}}.<br /> <br /> In [[Pokémon Puzzle Challenge]], he appears as an unnamed player character.<br /> <br /> Before he received an official name in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, most fans called him '''Gold''' (Japanese: '''{{j|ゴールド}}''' ''Gold'').<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Pokémon Gold manual intro.png|The player's story (named &quot;'''Gold'''&quot;) in the manual of [[Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|Pokémon Gold]]<br /> Pokémon Silver manual intro.png|The player's story (named &quot;'''Silver'''&quot;) in the manual of [[Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|Pokémon Silver]]<br /> Pokémon Crystal manual intro.png|The player's story (known as &quot;'''you'''&quot; in English) in the manual of {{game|Crystal}}<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> {{Flexheader|justify-content=start}}<br /> {| class=&quot;roundtable&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{HeartGold color}}; border:3px solid #{{HeartGold color dark}}&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{HeartGold color light}}&quot; | Language<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{HeartGold color light}}&quot; | Name<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{HeartGold color light}}&quot; | Origin<br /> |-<br /> | Japanese<br /> | ヒビキ ''Hibiki''<br /> | From 響き ''hibiki'' (echo; sound)<br /> |-<br /> | English, Latin American Spanish,&lt;br&gt;Indonesian, Brazilian Portuguese<br /> | Ethan<br /> | From ''echo''<br /> |-<br /> | German<br /> | Klarin<br /> | From ''Klarinette'' ({{wp|clarinet}})<br /> |-<br /> | European Spanish<br /> | Eco<br /> | From ''eco'' (echo)<br /> |-<br /> | French<br /> | Luth<br /> | From ''luth'' ({{wp|lute}})<br /> |-<br /> | Italian<br /> | Armonio<br /> | From ''armonio'' ({{wp|harmonium}}) and ''armonia'' (harmony)<br /> |-<br /> | Korean<br /> | 심향 ''Simhyang''<br /> | From 심 (心) ''sim'' (heart) and 향 (響) ''hyang'' (echo)<br /> |-<br /> | Chinese (Traditional)<br /> | 阿響 ''Ā Xiǎng'' / ''A Héung''<br /> | From 響 ''xiǎng / héung'' (echo; sound) <br /> |-<br /> | Chinese (Simplified)<br /> | 啊响 ''Ā Xiǎng'' / ''A Héung''<br /> |From 响 ''xiǎng / héung'' (echo; sound)<br /> |-<br /> | Thai<br /> | ฮิบิกิ ''Hibiki''<br /> | Transcription of his Japanese name<br /> |}<br /> {{Flexfooter}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Optional names===<br /> {| class=&quot;roundtable&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{gold color}}; border:3px solid #{{gold color dark}}&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{gold color light}}&quot; | Games<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{gold color light}}&quot; | Japanese<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{gold color light}}&quot; | English<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{gold color light}}&quot; | German<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{gold color light}}&quot; | European Spanish<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{gold color light}}&quot; | French<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{gold color light}}&quot; | Italian<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{gold color light}}&quot; | Korean<br /> |-<br /> |Gold<br /> |ゴールド ''Gold''&lt;br&gt;ヒロキ ''Hiroki''&lt;br&gt;テツオ ''Tetsuo''&lt;br&gt;タカシ ''Takashi''<br /> |GOLD&lt;br&gt;HIRO&lt;br&gt;TAYLOR&lt;br&gt;KARL<br /> |Gold&lt;br&gt;DANIEL&lt;br&gt;FRITZ&lt;br&gt;KARL<br /> |ORO&lt;br&gt;HIRO&lt;br&gt;TOMÁS&lt;br&gt;CARLOS<br /> |GOLD&lt;br&gt;JULIEN&lt;br&gt;JEAN&lt;br&gt;JACQUES<br /> |ORO&lt;br&gt;PAOLO&lt;br&gt;DIEGO&lt;br&gt;CARLO<br /> |골드 ''Gold''&lt;br&gt;수호 ''Suho''&lt;br&gt;인철 ''Incheol''&lt;br&gt;강산 ''Gangsan''<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFF;&quot;<br /> |Silver<br /> |シルバー ''Silver''&lt;br&gt;カモン ''Kamon''&lt;br&gt;トオル ''Tōru''&lt;br&gt;マサオ ''Masao''<br /> |SILVER&lt;br&gt;KAMON&lt;br&gt;OSCAR&lt;br&gt;MAX<br /> |Silber&lt;br&gt;THOMAS&lt;br&gt;OSKAR&lt;br&gt;HANS<br /> |PLATA&lt;br&gt;KAMON&lt;br&gt;OSCAR&lt;br&gt;MÁXIMO<br /> |SILVER&lt;br&gt;DANIEL&lt;br&gt;PIERRE&lt;br&gt;PAUL<br /> |ARGENTO&lt;br&gt;LUCA&lt;br&gt;PAOLO&lt;br&gt;MAX<br /> |실버 ''Silver''&lt;br&gt;청운 ''Cheong'un''&lt;br&gt;지겸 ''Jigyeom''&lt;br&gt;찬호 ''Chanho''<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFF;&quot;<br /> |Crystal<br /> |クリス ''Chris''&lt;br&gt;ヨウスケ ''Yōsuke''&lt;br&gt;タケヒロ ''Takehiro''&lt;br&gt;タカオ ''Takao''<br /> |CHRIS&lt;br&gt;MAT&lt;br&gt;ALLAN&lt;br&gt;JON<br /> |CHRIS&lt;br&gt;ARNOLD&lt;br&gt;GERT&lt;br&gt;JON<br /> |CRIS&lt;br&gt;ANTONIO&lt;br&gt;ÁLEX&lt;br&gt;EMILIO<br /> |CHRIS&lt;br&gt;BENJI&lt;br&gt;NICOLAS&lt;br&gt;JEAN<br /> |CHRIS&lt;br&gt;SERGIO&lt;br&gt;GIACOMO&lt;br&gt;MANUELE<br /> |<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFF;&quot;<br /> |HeartGold&lt;br&gt;SoulSilver<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;ハート ''Heart''{{sup/4|HG}}<br /> ソウル ''Soul''{{sup/4|SS}}<br /> サトシ ''Satoshi''<br /> ケン ''Ken''<br /> カケル ''Kakeru''<br /> ジャック ''Jack''<br /> ジャン ''Jean''<br /> ジョン ''John''<br /> カモン ''Kamon''<br /> タカシ ''Takashi''<br /> テツオ ''Tetsuo''<br /> トオル ''Tōru''<br /> ヒロキ ''Hiroki''<br /> マサオ ''Masao''<br /> タカオ ''Takao''<br /> タケヒロ ''Takehiro''<br /> トウゴ ''Tōgo''<br /> ヒトシ ''Hitoshi''<br /> ヨシナオ ''Yoshinao''&lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;Heart{{sup/4|HG}}<br /> Soul{{sup/4|SS}}<br /> Ash<br /> Nic<br /> Dion<br /> Duncan<br /> Jude<br /> Ross<br /> Shae{{sup/4|HG}} / Shea{{sup/4|SS}}<br /> Darrell<br /> Terell<br /> Chris<br /> Brad<br /> Dwight<br /> Talon<br /> Lonny<br /> Jess<br /> Eric<br /> Chase&lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;Heart{{sup/4|HG}}<br /> Soul{{sup/4|SS}}<br /> Karsten<br /> Gerd<br /> Hans<br /> Jack<br /> Jan<br /> John<br /> Daniel<br /> Helge<br /> Uhland<br /> Tobit<br /> Ugo<br /> Berno<br /> Jon<br /> Rafik<br /> Boris<br /> Thomas<br /> Silvio&lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;Heart{{sup/4|HG}}<br /> Soul{{sup/4|SS}}<br /> Ash<br /> Llamin<br /> Casio<br /> Job<br /> Chechu<br /> Juande<br /> Javi<br /> Ral<br /> Marino<br /> Toilo<br /> Nahum<br /> Max<br /> Morel<br /> Ralph<br /> Russ<br /> Erminio<br /> Quinn&lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;Heart<br /> Soul<br /> Dilan<br /> Gurvan<br /> Gabriel<br /> Allane<br /> Zack<br /> Marc<br /> Loris<br /> Max<br /> Damien<br /> Tom<br /> Greg<br /> Kamel<br /> Franck<br /> Ralph<br /> Seb<br /> Daniel<br /> Thomas&lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;Heart{{sup/4|HG}}<br /> Soul{{sup/4|SS}}<br /> Ash<br /> Nico<br /> Elmo<br /> Mattia<br /> Silvano<br /> Rossano<br /> Kamon<br /> Karl<br /> Gabry<br /> Oscar<br /> Dino<br /> Daniel<br /> Manuele<br /> Ralph<br /> Lucio<br /> Paolo<br /> Marco<br /> &lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;하트 ''Heart''{{sup/4|HG}}<br /> 소울 ''Soul''{{sup/4|SS}}<br /> 지우 ''Jiwoo''<br /> 캔 ''Ken''<br /> 호진 ''Hojin''<br /> 상우 ''Sang'u''<br /> 쟝 ''Jyang''<br /> 재범 ''Jaebeom''<br /> 청운 ''Cheong'un''<br /> 강산 ''Gangsan''<br /> 인철 ''Incheol''<br /> 지겸 ''Jigyeom''<br /> 숙호 ''Sukho''<br /> 찬호 ''Chanho''<br /> 지훈 ''Jihun''<br /> 윤호 ''Yunho''<br /> 케이 ''Kay''<br /> 다인 ''Dain''<br /> 상현 ''Sanghyeon''&lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |}{{-}}<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> &lt;references /&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Related articles==<br /> {{Player characters|gold}}<br /> {{Rival characters|gold}}<br /> {{Capture tutor}}<br /> {{NPC|gold|johto=yes}}<br /> {{Project CharacterDex notice}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Gold, Silver and Crystal characters]]<br /> [[Category:HeartGold and SoulSilver characters]]<br /> [[Category:Champions]]<br /> [[Category:Friend characters]]<br /> [[Category:Pokémon Generations characters]]<br /> [[Category:Pokémon Evolutions characters]]<br /> <br /> [[de:Klarin]]<br /> [[es:Eco]]<br /> [[fr:Luth]]<br /> [[it:Armonio (gioco)]]<br /> [[ja:ヒビキ]]<br /> [[zh:阿響]]</div>

Tsovoa Levone https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Chao&diff=4484607 2026-02-09T01:45:05Z

<p>Tsovoa Levone: /* The Ethan Eif Baby card sure has been released */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>{| class=&quot;roundy&quot; align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #729abf; border: 3px solid #194166&quot;<br /> |- align=center<br /> ! style=&quot;background: #26649c; {{roundy}}&quot; | Archives<br /> |- <br /> |<br /> {| style=&quot;background: #fff; {{roundy}}; font-size: 90%;&quot; align=&quot;center&quot; |<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[User talk:Chao/Archive 1|一]] • [[User talk:Chao/Archive 2|二]]<br /> |}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> == Land of Kitakami ==<br /> Since you are Chinese, you should be very well aware of the differences between 国 and 里. I refuse to believe you actually believe Sato means Land.<br /> I speak Japanese and I live in Japan. Do NOT edit war or I will report you. --[[User:Thegrandpoketour|Thegrandpoketour]] ([[User talk:Thegrandpoketour|talk]]) 09:48, 18 September 2023 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Official Korean Romanization List ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for the heads up! It coincided with my recent trips to Korea and the use of official Romanized names, such as the use of &quot;Hankarias&quot; instead of &quot;Hankariaseu&quot; (한카리아스, Garchomp) on official Korean merchandise. I believe the official Romanized names were pulled from [http://assets20.pokemon.com/assets/cms/pdf/op/tcg_champ_series/2011-2012/WC12_Battle_Dictionary.pdf this document], right?<br /> <br /> Having said that, the official Romanizations seems to be used inconsistantly by Pokémon Korea, because I spotted a 파이리/Charmander toy which was Romanized as &quot;Pairi&quot;, not &quot;Fairit&quot; (there's not even a &quot;T&quot; sound in the original Korean name). On the other hand, &quot;Hankarias&quot; was used instead of &quot;Hankariaseu&quot; for 한카리아스 which confirms the list. Therefore, I'm gonna look into this a bit more, since that document was released by TPC International, not Pokémon Korea; I just want to make doubly sure that TPC International got the names from Pokémon Korea themselves and didn't take it upon themselves to Romanize it, or maybe Pokémon Korea is just being lazy about applying it consistantly to official merch, etc etc. That is unless there IS a document released by Pokémon Korea which confirms TPC International's document? That would definitely save me some trouble.<br /> <br /> Fundamentally though, I see no reason NOT to use it, because it's still an official list in any case. Hopefully I can find the official Romanizations for Gen 6 Pokémon as well! -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 04:01, 12 January 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == WhatsApp chat? ==<br /> <br /> Something want to talk privately okay? [[User:KyleRGiggs|Raymond]] 16:58, 2 June 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Chinese names ==<br /> <br /> Just thought I would notify you that there is a lot of pages in the category {{cat|Articles needing translation}} that need Chinese translations (mostly manga pages that I have added). '''[[User:Lady Ariel|&lt;span style=&quot;color:magenta&quot;&gt;Lady&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|&lt;span style=&quot;color:orange&quot;&gt;Ariel&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 01:35, 9 August 2016 (UTC)<br /> :I'm on it. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 03:39, 9 August 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Moves and Abilities in other languages ==<br /> <br /> May I know if the Moves/Abilities in other languages if anyone is doing on adding the Chinese names. So I was wondering if we're going to use the table as seen [[Characteristic#In other languages|here]] or with [[Template:Langlist/h|this template]] which would have to be edited to &quot;English/Japanese/French.../Korean/Chinese&quot;. But then, on the Skill page, which Pokémon Shuffle may not be having the Chinese version, is also using the template. Or I should leave it alone for now :) — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|&lt;span style=&quot;color:orange&quot;&gt;Ruixiang&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|&lt;span style=&quot;color:purple&quot;&gt;95&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 15:24, 14 February 2017 (UTC)<br /> :Just leave them alone for now. There are still some issues to work out with those pages and a decision still has yet to be made. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 00:56, 15 February 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hello dude I'm here to help with French translation across the wiki I've understood your last undo on my edit but actually Cyrus (team Galaxy's boss) is &quot;Boss de la team Galaxie&quot; in French, I'm french native and in Pokemon games its refered as this we need to add damn pronouns before the thing, can't believe no one noticed that, sorry for annoyance I just wanted to contribute to this wiki's perfection.<br /> :I'm curious to the source of &quot;Boss de la team Galaxie&quot; as the French version of Diamond Version had used &quot;Chef Galaxie&quot; as the translation for the Trainer class. <br /> :Also, please start a new section through the &quot;+&quot; tab on top of the page instead of replying to an old section. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 07:12, 20 November 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Kahuna and trial captains Names==<br /> <br /> Not to be rude or anything but if saying things like it is seems forced then we can retconned names of gym leaders also saying their names seems forced too.<br /> <br /> Also what you said that hapu's name is coincidental here is a wiki link describing her possible naming and the relation of it to ground type understand it well. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hapū<br /> <br /> Btw mina's name really means tiny in greek<br /> [[User:Badwolf1234|Badwolf1234]] ([[User talk:Badwolf1234|talk]]) 02:37, 22 March 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Name origins are given leeway to a reasonable extent, but the ones you've added are dubious at best.<br /> <br /> :According to the article you linked, it just means &quot;clan&quot; or &quot;pregnant.&quot; Her name is not ''Whenua'', so there's no point in listing that out. The article only discusses the trend in words for social units to be named after body parts (or its state).<br /> <br /> :As for Mina, &quot;tiny&quot; is too vague to be connected to fairies. That's like associating &quot;large&quot; to dragons. Besides, I'm not even sure if that's correct considering that you said the same thing for &quot;love.&quot;<br /> <br /> :Also, I've removed your etymology for Hala. Haul and Hala sounds nothing alike in Japanese. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 03:11, 22 March 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Spammer's back. ==<br /> <br /> [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Piyushkibalti] [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 05:48, 24 August 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Chinese names on Zen Mode ==<br /> <br /> Hey Chao, so all four names on the {{a|Zen Mode|article}} have {{tt|*|Anime}} on them, and I was wondering if that was a mistake or not? x.x Sorry to ask! [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 20:42, 13 September 2017 (UTC)<br /> :My bad, top one is supposed to be games, but Abcboy already fixed that, so... --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 00:33, 14 September 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Unshō Ishizuka ==<br /> <br /> Unshō Ishizuka should have a famous role of Bunta Fujiwara of Initial D. It was sad that the news didn't mentioned it. [[User:KyleRGiggs|KyleRGiggs]] 15:13, 17 August 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Request to review Chinese pinyin in a draft article in my userspace ==<br /> <br /> I compiled a [[User:SilSinn9801/List of common phrases from fortune-teller tents (Festival Plaza) in other languages|list of common phrases from fortune-teller tents (Festival Plaza) in other languages]] as a draft article in my userspace, and I need someone fluent in Chinese who can review the pinyin I have in that list and make any corrections there. According to the {{bp|Staff}} page, you have an intermediate-level knowledge of Chinese (zh-2), so maybe you could help me here. The Staff page also mentions [[User:Carmenstar97|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#95EB5C&quot;&gt;Carmen&lt;small&gt;★&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;small&gt;''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FEBEE8&quot;&gt;(Talk |&lt;/span&gt;]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A6DAFC&quot;&gt;contribs)&lt;/span&gt;]]''&lt;/small&gt; as a native Chinese speaker (zh-N), so I am also asking her this just in case you cannot. Thankee! --[[User:SilSinn9801|''&lt;b style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;SilSinn&lt;/b&gt;'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|&lt;sup style=&quot;color:#F1912B&quot;&gt;S&lt;/sup&gt;]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|&lt;sup style=&quot;color:#226DB5&quot;&gt;UM&lt;/sup&gt;]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 10:14, 3 January 2019 (UTC)<br /> :I'll look into it when I find the time. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 02:04, 8 January 2019 (UTC)<br /> ::Don’t worry, there is no hurry. You can take your time (given that you have to balance your admin duties not just here but also on 52poké) while I work on other draft stuff, including an English version of 52poké’s article on Festival Plaza’s fortune-teller tents which includes a list of all common phrases along with unlock rates and game origins. --[[User:SilSinn9801|''&lt;b style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;SilSinn&lt;/b&gt;'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|&lt;sup style=&quot;color:#F1912B&quot;&gt;S&lt;/sup&gt;]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|&lt;sup style=&quot;color:#226DB5&quot;&gt;UM&lt;/sup&gt;]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 03:50, 9 January 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Duraludon ==<br /> <br /> Duraludon = {{wp|duralumin}} + -don --[[User:Cleffa|Cleffa]] ([[User talk:Cleffa|talk]]) 15:20, 8 July 2019 (UTC)<br /> :Thank you for pointing that out. They have now been added. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 01:59, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Alcreme REDIRECT ==<br /> <br /> I saw the recent news where it mentions &quot;Alcreme&quot;. I wanted to create a redirect to &quot;Alcremie&quot; but you deleted because it was unneeded. I'd you think if this redirect is a mistake, can you the editors about this mistake? [[User:TwistedMeow|TwistedMeow]] ([[User talk:TwistedMeow|talk]]) 03:59, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<br /> :Uh, what? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 04:16, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<br /> ::The news article spelt Alcremie's name wrong. [[User:TwistedMeow|TwistedMeow]] ([[User talk:TwistedMeow|talk]]) 04:27, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<br /> :::It's a mistake made by the user, you do not have to create a redirect for the wrong name. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#9932CC;&quot;&gt;Ruixiang&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF8C00;&quot;&gt;95&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 04:41, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<br /> :There's no need to create a redirect for a typo on Bulbanews. As for the news article, that has now been corrected. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 05:15, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Unable to Edit Userspace==<br /> Hey, I've been a user for a good while now and have edited multiple pages. Despite this, I am unable to edit my userpage. I understand the code of conduct in relation to editing these pages and had believed I had followed them enough to warrant an unlock, but it still remains unavailable to me. Is there a way to possibly unlock this for me? Thanks. [[User:Brawlersinthezone|Brawlersinthezone]] ([[User talk:Brawlersinthezone|talk]]) 19:46, 9 January 2020 (UTC)<br /> :New users must make a certain amount of edits before they can edit their userpage. Just keep on making edits on the mainspace and it will automatically unlock. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 08:20, 10 January 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == What the fuck?! ==<br /> <br /> You just blocked somebody simply because of too many new users?! Do you know how retarded that is?! {{unsigned|GalarPony}}<br /> <br /> :Ayy! No swearing! {{unsigned|Mr.GodzillaMan}}<br /> ::He banned a spambot, GalarPony. The reasoning Chao used is a joke we use on those. No ''real user'' was harmed. So how about you apologize for flying off the handle? [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 21:03, 16 March 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Spammer ==<br /> <br /> There's a spammer going around that I've had to undo several edits of, can you block them? [[User:Mr. Daikon|Mr. Daikon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Daikon|talk]]) 01:36, 16 June 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Medium ==<br /> <br /> Hi Chao,<br /> Morty mentions {{tc|Medium|Media}} in Pokémon Masters. In Chinese, his dialogue is:<br /> 道館裡也聚集了一群<br /> 想磨練那種神秘力量的人呢。<br /> 例如神婆之類的。<br /> I'm not sure what is the full term for &quot;Medium&quot; - 神婆之類 or just 神婆 (&quot;Goddess&quot;?). I don't want to rely on Google Translate and my less-than-rudimentary Chinese knowledge, so I'm sure that you're the rightest person to ask. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 07:35, 26 June 2020 (UTC)<br /> :Oh, I missed that one, but it's now been added. The 之類 part means &quot;as such; and the likes,&quot; so it's just 神婆. I'm leaning towards spiritual mediums in this case. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 01:34, 27 June 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Translation of 四天王 ==<br /> <br /> I understand that you know Japanese much better than I do. May I ask, however, how does &quot;四天王&quot; translate into &quot;The Big Four&quot;? As even you yourself put it, its literal translation is &quot;Four Heavenly Kings&quot;, which Bulbapedia has used for years now. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:19, 20 January 2021 (UTC)<br /> :Nevermind. Just read your edit summary. I see. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:18, 20 January 2021 (UTC)<br /> ::Aside from it being the translation that appeared in Japanese ORAS, the cultural differences creates slightly different connotations when translated literally. For now, I'm just leaving in the literal translation, but I'll be working on a note to explain the term. As for the translations for older episode titles, they will also be updated accordingly. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 01:15, 21 January 2021 (UTC)<br /> :::I think it's just that 1) I am not good at handling sudden big changes, and 2) &quot;Four Heavenly Kings&quot; sound a lot more dramatic and fitting to me than &quot;The Big Four&quot;, which sounds unimaginative and lame in comparison to me. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:38, 21 January 2021 (UTC)<br /> ::::Official translation still takes precedence. Besides, it's not incorrect while also being gender-neutral. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 07:11, 21 January 2021 (UTC)<br /> :::::True. I wasn't opposing this translation, just explaining why it was hard for me to take in at first. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:53, 21 January 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Japanese names for the GOTCHA! staff ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I was wondering where you got their Japanese names because I could not find them anywhere and I would like to finish the Japanese staff list {{unsigned|BlazingTurtonator}}<br /> :Basically, I tried to match up some of the readings to the various staff lists from other series, but it's rather difficult to find each one of them. Also, please do sign your post with four tildes. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 01:27, 4 March 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == User:Connixstar08/6★ EX ==<br /> <br /> Since you are an admin, can you move my userspace page (User:Connixstar08/6★ EX) to the mainspace--ConNix 22:35, 30 March 2021 (UTC)<br /> :There's no need to rush. The page will be moved when it's ready, but your article still needs to be restructured to better present the information. It would be better to merge the sync pairs into one section instead of splitting them into sections on sets of 10. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 05:20, 31 March 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == JN064 ==<br /> <br /> Does [https://twitter.com/ZPokelover/status/1377099620015165443 this] count as evidence towards JN064's authenticity? And once the episode is verified, can it please be restored as it was? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:07, 31 March 2021 (UTC)<br /> :The magazine scan you linked there did not provide the episode title nor did it show Dragonite. I checked the supposed source for the title and found the image quality to be suspiciously inconsistent, not to mention the language used there appears to be machine translated. I can restore it assuming no one went ahead in creating the article again. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 09:13, 31 March 2021 (UTC)<br /> ::It's not been recreated, at least not yet. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:48, 31 March 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Dex in other Languages (Masters) ==<br /> <br /> Hey, would adding the Dex entries for the trainers in Pokémon Masters be helpful, or is that a step too far? (the actual dex entries for the Pokémon themselves appear to be taken from the games, so adding translations wouldn't be necessary for Masters) [[User:Yug Guy|Yug Guy]] ([[User talk:Yug Guy|talk]]) 20:02, 15 August 2021 (UTC)<br /> :That wouldn't be necessary. It's already suffice to have the English ones. Besides, we don't even list dex entries for the Pokémon from the other languages. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 01:10, 16 August 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Masters move translations ==<br /> <br /> Your work in adding translations to the Japanese, Korean, and Chinese names of Masters EX moves has been phenomenal. I just spotted at least two characters where said translations still need to be added: Jessie and James. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:36, 28 August 2021 (UTC)<br /> :Also discovered that Erika is missing a translation or two. Not sure if more are missing from other Trainer articles. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 21:02, 28 August 2021 (UTC)<br /> ::Turns out a few Kanto and Johto sync pairs are still in need of move name translations. And from Hoenn, at least Brendan needs a translation too. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 22:42, 31 August 2021 (UTC)<br /> :::I think that should be all, but I'll be leaving the shouts like the ones for Blaine and Bruno untranslated. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 01:43, 1 September 2021 (UTC)<br /> ::::I don't think they need translations, either. Thank you. I also think that should be all, but I'll let you know if I spot anything. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:00, 1 September 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == JN081: Poké Maniacs or Poké Mania? ==<br /> <br /> Does JN081's title reference Poké Maniacs? It doesn't quite match the Japanese name of the Trainer class, but I have a suspicion the episode still refers to them. Am I correct? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:26, 18 September 2021 (UTC)<br /> :It doesn't have the same name as the [[Poké Maniac (Trainer class)|Trainer class]], but the episode summary indicates that it refers to an enthusiastic person (maniac). The title has been updated accordingly. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 01:24, 20 September 2021 (UTC)<br /> ::As far as I know, the term ''Pokémania'' has been used on certain occasions in Japanese as well (in the meaning of &quot;Pokémaniac&quot;), most notably to refer to Bill. Bill isn't a &quot;Kaiju Mania&quot; - it's just the English version that makes the two terms sound the same. Bill's article doesn't state that, but I'm 99% positive that it is the case. I will look through the game text files to make sure. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 07:16, 20 September 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Staff list ==<br /> <br /> Can you help add the staff list of JN083 to the episode article, as well as the appropriate categories? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 22:13, 8 October 2021 (UTC)<br /> :Done, I suppose. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 01:27, 9 October 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == JN084 ==<br /> <br /> Is the correct translation of the title just &quot;adventure&quot;, or is it &quot;big adventure&quot;? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 21:40, 21 October 2021 (UTC)<br /> :It's fine either way. I don't think there's much of a difference. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 01:19, 22 October 2021 (UTC)<br /> ::Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:47, 22 October 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == JN096 ==<br /> <br /> Is the translation of JN096's title &quot;Go to Space&quot; or &quot;Reach Space&quot;? I've seen both translations being used. I have a hunch the latter will ne more accurate bin context of what we know of the episode, but I'd like to be sure. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:33, 15 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :I've already fixed it. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 01:24, 17 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Journeys specials ==<br /> <br /> I personally think the current translation for the Legends: Arceus anime special's name is a bit clunky. Should it be moved to the suggestion given on it? And are the individual episode titles accurate too? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:40, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :As in, the translation used for it on Bulbapedia. I personally prefer there translation used on Bulbagarden Forums. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:41, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pinsir's gender ==<br /> <br /> According to subtitles, in JN094, Goh calls his Pinsir a girl when looking over it at Cerise Park. Is this an accurate translation? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:46, 23 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :It looks like in the scene where Pinsir is on a bridge in [[JN094]], Goh practically goes out of his way to avoid gendering Pinsir. That's the extent I've looked. I assume the fansubs just assume Pinsir is female because it likes a male Heracross. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:39, 24 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::Goh did not mention a gender. The only time he referred to Pinsir directly is calling it &quot;yatsu&quot; which is neither he or she.--[[User:Force Fire|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#44BAE5&quot;&gt;'''F'''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#85D2EE&quot;&gt;orce&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Force Fire|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DA7D99&quot;&gt;'''F'''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E7ABBD&quot;&gt;ire&lt;/span&gt;]] 06:59, 24 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :::Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying that. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:03, 24 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Title translation ==<br /> <br /> Is the &quot;Adhesion&quot; part in JN100's title an accurate translation? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:09, 10 February 2022 (UTC)<br /> :I'm not quite certain without context, but &quot;Adhesion&quot; sounds too technical in this case. I opted for a more vague-sounding &quot;Close Contact&quot;. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 01:33, 11 February 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hogēta name origin ==<br /> <br /> You're clearly more of a Japanese expert than me so feel free to tell me I'm wrong, but wouldn't ahoge make more sense than hogē given its appearance? --[[User:Pokelova|Pokelova]] ([[User talk:Pokelova|talk]]) 04:19, 28 February 2022 (UTC)<br /> :I added &quot;hogē&quot; based on its Slowpoke-like expression and its Chinese name. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 06:30, 28 February 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ukrainian translations ==<br /> <br /> [https://dailyplanetdc.com/2022/03/03/pokemon-company-to-donate-200000-to-help-ukrainian-families/ This article] might prove to be a turning point since Ukraine has been under siege by an impending war. If you'd like to know about the Ukrainian translations, [https://pokemon-go.name/uk/pokemony go here]. [[User:VideoGamePhenom|VideoGamePhenom]] ([[User talk:VideoGamePhenom|talk]]) 20:09, 25 March 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Edit flooding ==<br /> <br /> [[User talk:Knight Brazil93|Knight Brazil93]] appears to be engaging in edit flooding. I tried to let them know about the Preview button but I appear to have been ignored. [[User:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orangered&quot;&gt;'''Land'''&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;darkviolet&quot;&gt;'''fish7'''&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 02:04, 28 March 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Clemontic Gear ==<br /> <br /> Two [[Clemontic Gear]]s are missing the kanji versions of their Japanese names. Could you add them? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:26, 2 April 2022 (UTC)<br /> :Done. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 01:55, 4 April 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Desktop Site ==<br /> <br /> Is there a reason that only the mobile version of the website is accessible at the moment? I cannot access the desktop version of the site on any device right now. [[User:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orangered&quot;&gt;'''Land'''&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;darkviolet&quot;&gt;'''fish7'''&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 04:39, 11 April 2022 (UTC)<br /> :I can't say for sure what is the cause of the issue, but the staff is well aware of it and it's currently being looked at. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 04:45, 11 April 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::Okay good to know. Thank you! I figured out I can access the desktop version through other pages, it just gets stuck on the mobile version if I open it from the main page. [[User:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orangered&quot;&gt;'''Land'''&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;darkviolet&quot;&gt;'''fish7'''&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 04:50, 11 April 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Chinese skipped ==<br /> <br /> You missed Heracross and Skarmory. Possibly more. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] ([[User talk:Zurqoxn|talk]]) 12:57, 26 April 2022 (UTC)<br /> :Updated, feel free to inform me on what else I had missed. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 01:34, 27 April 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Edit warring ==<br /> <br /> Dingus99Boom is edit warring on Beni's page over perceived similarities to Cilan. I addressed this with them on their user talk page before I realized they've had prior revert conflicts over the same changes. [[User:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orangered&quot;&gt;'''Land'''&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;darkviolet&quot;&gt;'''fish7'''&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:40, 8 May 2022 (UTC)<br /> :I've noticed they've reverted edits by you, Force Fire, and myself over the same changes. [[User:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orangered&quot;&gt;'''Land'''&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;darkviolet&quot;&gt;'''fish7'''&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 21:15, 8 May 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Millie89C163 ==<br /> <br /> Millie89C163 appears to be a spambot. I removed their spam link to an external site. [[User:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orangered&quot;&gt;'''Land'''&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;darkviolet&quot;&gt;'''fish7'''&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 05:18, 12 May 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pokemon Masters Jukebox songs &amp; translations ==<br /> <br /> Now that the text dumps for Pokemon Masters are up to date, I have compiled a list of the currently-available songs from the in-game jukebox, as well as all of their translations. The tagging used in the text files seems to correspond with the song key number used in the game (just truncated). Really the only info I'm missing at this point is what date each song was made available and which songs were unlockable. <br /> <br /> The reason I'm coming to you is that I don't know where this info should go. I could see it being its own page, but it could easily be contained in a spoiler tab on the main Pokemon Masters page. Any ideas? [[User:Yug Guy|Yug Guy]] ([[User talk:Yug Guy|talk]]) 02:04, 31 May 2022 (UTC)<br /> :A separate page titled &quot;[[Jukebox (Masters)]]&quot; should work here. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 05:41, 31 May 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::I created [[Jukebox (Masters)]] &amp; put all the songs on there. It'll definitely need some more experienced editors to do some polishing before it can be linked on the main [[Pokémon Masters EX]] page. [[User:Yug Guy|Yug Guy]] ([[User talk:Yug Guy|talk]]) 02:52, 4 June 2022 (UTC)<br /> :::In the future, if you didn't already know, you can make pages in your userspace and ask if they can be moved to the mainspace when they're ready. For example, this page could have been made at {{redlink|User talk:Yug Guy/Jukebox (Masters)}} with the [[Template:Mainspace|Mainspace template]] placed at the top to denote that it is intended to be mainspaced. This could be useful if you decide to work on new pages in the future that you aren't able to get mainspace-ready by yourself or that require a lot of time to work on before they're ready. I'm not an admin so this is not my decision to make, but I think the page you made seems good enough that it's probably okay that it is already mainspaced. But I just thought it might be helpful to let you know your other options. [[User:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;F34134&quot;&gt;'''Land'''&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;8334B7&quot;&gt;'''fish7'''&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 03:01, 4 June 2022 (UTC)<br /> :Articles generally have to be substantial for it to be on the mainspace, so they are ready to be linked by default. With that, this page already looks good enough on its own. As for the missing information, someone would eventually get around to adding them. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 03:56, 4 June 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == AG021 ==<br /> <br /> I noticed that AG021's Japanese title has a word that's not included in the translation. Moreover, this word only appears on the episode list, not in the episode article. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:55, 14 June 2022 (UTC)<br /> :It appears to be just a typo copied from the previous episode title. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> ::Ah, makes sense. Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:33, 15 June 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Move name translation ==<br /> <br /> Spirit Break's page translates the move's Japanese name as Soul Crash. However, after hearing the move's name being said out loud in Journeys episode 99, I think it should be Soul Crush. That would also fit well with its English translation. Am I correct? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:23, 18 June 2022 (UTC)<br /> :Those words are near homophones in English, not to mention both of them (along with &quot;Clash&quot;) would be spelled the same in Japanese. That being said, the Korean name uses the specific spelling of &quot;Crash&quot;, so I'm leaning towards keeping it as is. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 01:23, 20 June 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::Okay. Thanks. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:58, 11 July 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Diantha's Japanese name romanization ==<br /> <br /> Could [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/342726527596756993/996065458765692968/235D81ED-713E-470D-94DD-80CDF91016AF.jpg this] scan from the Japanese magazine Spoon.2Di suffice as enough to change the romanization of her name to ''Carne'' instead of ''Carnet'' on Bulbapeda? Additionally, it was also spelled out like that on [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/342726527596756993/996068337069080687/unknown.png this] poster which was part of a poster campaign relating to the anime's Masters Tournament. --[[User:DomiDsLP|DomiDsLP]] ([[User talk:DomiDsLP|talk]]) 15:01, 11 July 2022 (UTC)<br /> :I'm not Chao and I don't have any authority here, but keep in mind that &quot;Carnet&quot; was nothing but a guess romanization (we use lots of those for human characters because they rarely get the occasion for official romaji), so any official material &quot;beats&quot; it. This goes without asking. If you were reverted because of using &quot;Carne&quot;, then the person reverting you was wrong (unless I'm missing something). --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 18:34, 11 July 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::My apologies, the closest thing to official sources with &quot;Carnet&quot; is from the text files in Masters, but names spelled in merchandise would definitely take priority here. I hadn't come across that scan and poster, so I wasn't aware of the spelling. It should mostly be reverted now with the rest of the pages be updated accordingly. That said, please do list the sources of official spellings in the edit summary next time, so it'll be easier to check for reference. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 01:31, 12 July 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Official English title and track names for Pocket Monsters Original Soundtrack Volume 2 ==<br /> So the [[Pocket Monsters Original Soundtrack Volume 2]] CD has official English translations for its title (Pokémon ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK Vol.2) and all the tracks on it included in the data. However, as you can see, Pokémon is used instead of the literal Pocket Monsters. Other English terminology is used as well instead of the literal romanizations ([[Chloe]], {{p|Eevee}}, [[Gigantamax]]). How should this be handled on the page? Should we leave the fan translations and just note the official ones? [[User:PaperSplash|PaperSplash]] ([[User talk:PaperSplash|talk]]) 19:54, 11 September 2022 (UTC)<br /> :We would follow the format of [[:Category:Game soundtracks|game soundtracks]]. The title would be move to the official English translation, while the fan translations of the tracks would be replaced with official translations. The header would also have to be replaced: &quot;Track Title&quot; → &quot;Track Title (Japanese)&quot; and &quot;Translation&quot; → &quot;Track Title (English)&quot;.<br /> :By the way, where are those English translations? --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 01:46, 12 September 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Masters moves ==<br /> <br /> Many sync pairs with new moves have been introduced since you last helped to add new the names of those moves to each sync pair's respective articles. Could you help with adding those that haven't been adding yet when you get the chance? Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:21, 15 November 2022 (UTC)<br /> :I think that should be all for now. Let me know if I missed anything else. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 03:42, 17 November 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::I will. Thank you very much for the tremendous help. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:12, 17 November 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Other names ==<br /> <br /> Do you think you could add the narrator's pseudonym from JN126 to his article, as well as the different language names of the unique Trainer classes used by Geeta and Clavell to their respective articles? Thank you in advance. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:28, 21 November 2022 (UTC)<br /> :Now I'm not sure, though, if Top Champion should be counted as a subcategory of Champion or as a unique Trainer class of Geeta's. Which do you think is more appropriate? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 21:50, 21 November 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::I'll look into Trainer classes when I find the time. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 12:49, 22 November 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Iron Jugulis ==<br /> <br /> I noticed on Iron Jugulis's page, you changed the meaning of 鉄の首 ''tetsu no kōbe'' from &quot;iron neck&quot; to &quot;iron head&quot;, but aren't both possible translations? If anything, neck seems like the more likely intention here since most of the other language versions of the name also reference neck. [[User:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;F34134&quot;&gt;'''Land'''&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;8334B7&quot;&gt;'''fish7'''&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 05:55, 29 December 2022 (UTC)<br /> :The reading ''kōbe'' refers to head. If it was neck, it would have been ''kubi''. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 02:54, 3 January 2023 (UTC)<br /> ::Got it. Thank you! [[User:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;F34134&quot;&gt;'''Land'''&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;8334B7&quot;&gt;'''fish7'''&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 03:30, 3 January 2023 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Proper transcription of the name of newly announced SC TCG subsets. ==<br /> <br /> Hi. May I ask you about the proper romanisation (not translation) for the names of the newly announced TCG expansions 交相辉映 and GX起始卡组 交相辉映 ?<br /> —[[User:DaneeBound|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#57380a;font-size:150%;font-family:Agency FB&quot;&gt;Danee&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#e8b691;font-size:150%;font-family:Agency FB&quot;&gt;Bound&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:DaneeBound|&lt;sup&gt;Discu&lt;/sup&gt;]] 11:09, 5 January 2023 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Why did you delete &quot;Sandwic&quot; as a redirect to &quot;Sandwich&quot;? ==<br /> <br /> The page &quot;sandwic&quot; should be a redirect to &quot;sandwich&quot;. Why did you delete it? {{unsigned|Jort}}<br /> :I don't see why a misspelling should be redirected to the page. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 01:32, 22 May 2023 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Georgia and Tyson's names ==<br /> <br /> I'm sure you had a good reason for reverting my edits about Georgia and Tyson's name origins, but it is a courteous gesture to leave an edit summary explaining your reasoning for doing so to anyone's edits on any wiki unless the edit is obviously incorrect, irrelevant, or in some other way unnecessary, which my edits were not. [[Special:Contributions/Mikoro|&lt;font face=&quot;Kristen ITC&quot; size=&quot;2&quot; color=&quot;#FFA500&quot;&gt;the great&lt;/font&gt;]] [[User:Mikoro|&lt;font face=&quot;Wide Latin&quot; size=&quot;2&quot; color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;MIKORO&lt;/font&gt;]] ([[User talk:Mikoro|talk to me]]) 10:48, 19 June 2023 (UTC)<br /> :In the case of Langley, the spelling in Japanese does not resemble the Chinese word for dragon and they could have better incorporated the word &quot;slay&quot; had it been intended. As for Tyson, it's too much of a leap. The explanation just comes off as forcefully fitting a similar word and making a random interpretation out of it. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 01:14, 20 June 2023 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Chi-Yu name origin question ==<br /> <br /> Hi, just wondering; you removed the potential name origins i added to Chi-Yu's page, 炽 chì [blaze] and 熠 yì [obscure word for flame], and i was just wondering why. I admit it was a google translation, so i would not be surprised at all if it happened to be a mistranslation or flat out wrong, but i was just curious, as the translation seemed fairly accurate. Would love some insight, and im sure you know more than me. thank you!<br /> <br /> [[User:MajoraVoidJester|MajoraVoidJester]] ([[User talk:MajoraVoidJester|talk]]) 07:51, 10 August 2023 (UTC)<br /> :Treasures of Ruin all follow a pattern in their names: animal and object they're based on (though not in order). None of those words you suggested match the pattern. In addition, it's also unlikely 熠 would be chosen as that is an uncommon word. Besides, if it had been intended, it would been used in the Chinese name which it didn't. Furthermore, 炽 does not match the romanization scheme used among the English names. The correct way of romanizing it in Wade–Giles would have been &quot;Ch'ih&quot;. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 01:47, 11 August 2023 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Masters names in other languages ==<br /> <br /> Hi! I appreciate you putting the names for new Masters characters' moves and sync moves in other languages on their pages, but please remember to comment them out if it's an alternate costume that hasn't been officially announced/released yet. Thank you! [[User:Storm Aurora|'''&lt;span style=&quot;background:-webkit-linear-gradient(left,#9CB8C6,#625A88);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;&quot;&gt;Storm Aurora&lt;/span&gt;''']] ([[User talk:Storm Aurora|talk]]) 04:47, 29 September 2023 (UTC)<br /> :Speaking of missing names, Clair and Wallace are missing the names for the moves of their newly released New Year's sync pairs. Could you add them, please? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 02:25, 4 January 2024 (UTC)<br /> ::Done. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 04:08, 4 January 2024 (UTC)<br /> :::Noticed this morning. Thank you very much. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:24, 4 January 2024 (UTC)<br /> ::::Now that the maintenance is over, could you add the move names for the new sync pairs released during the maintenance period? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 23:53, 15 February 2024 (UTC)<br /> :::::I'm on it. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 04:11, 16 February 2024 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Thank you very much. I noticed you had accidentally left some translations incomplete on Petey's page, so I fixed them. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:18, 16 February 2024 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Alright, thanks. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 02:56, 17 February 2024 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::You're welcome. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 03:02, 17 February 2024 (UTC)<br /> {{indent}}You've been of tremendous help in the past, and once again, I request your services. While adding the different language names of recently added sync pairs, I noticed that you did not add Blue &amp; Charizard's move names. Was this a mistake or done on purpose? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 21:40, 4 May 2024 (UTC)<br /> :No, I just missed that. Thanks for pointing that out. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 01:57, 6 May 2024 (UTC)<br /> ::Figured that was the case. You're welcome. Always glad to help. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:00, 6 May 2024 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Unite Moves in other languages ==<br /> <br /> Hi, thank you for cleaning up Miraidon (UNITE)'s [[Special:Diff/3957833/3958640|other langauges section]]. Which transliteration/romaniation method do you use? I mostly rely on Google Translate, but it is very unreliable. Do you know of any better tool that I can use so I won't have to bother you everytime? I've added [[special:diff/3965325|in-game names for Greninja]], so I'd appreciate you taking at look at them when you get a chance. Thank you. → &lt;span class=&quot;blacklinks&quot;&gt;[[User:SuperPikaPool13|Pika]][[User talk:SuperPikaPool13|&lt;sup&gt;Tepig&lt;/sup&gt;]][[Special:Contribs/SuperPikaPool13|&lt;sub&gt;999&lt;/sub&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt; 07:01, 26 March 2024 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Mail names ==<br /> <br /> All the individual Mail items now have their own articles, but most of them are missing their names in other languages. Could you help with this when you can? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:14, 24 April 2024 (UTC)<br /> :I'll look into it. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 06:02, 27 April 2024 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Translation help ==<br /> <br /> The article for Professor Oak's Pokémon Live Caster bonus segment is missing the transliterations and translations for the senryūs of two episodes. Could you help? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 00:24, 18 August 2024 (UTC)<br /> :Done. --[[User:神奇超龍|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 01:38, 19 August 2024 (UTC)<br /> ::Thank you very much for your assistance. Much appreciated. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 02:21, 19 August 2024 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == DreamDream Translation Credits ==<br /> Hello, I'm here to inquire about the English translation for DreamDream. According to the change logs, you were the one who added the translation to the page. Were you the person who translated the current version, or is there another person who did the translation? I want to ask proper permission to use this translation for the captions on a cover of the song I plan to release, and I want to make sure I'm crediting the right person other than just putting Bulbapedia in the credits section! [[User:Eggutamaplz|Eggutamaplz]] ([[User talk:Eggutamaplz|talk]]) 19:26, 2 September 2024 (UTC)<br /> :Yeah, I think I did translate that. --[[User:神奇超龍|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 01:11, 3 September 2024 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == More requests ==<br /> <br /> Do you think you could add the other language names on the Infatuation article? Thank you in advance. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 01:24, 8 October 2024 (UTC)<br /> :Done. --[[User:神奇超龍|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 02:13, 8 October 2024 (UTC)<br /> ::Very much appreciated. :) --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:21, 8 October 2024 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Froakie's Frubbles ==<br /> <br /> Hello! So I've been trying to add an &quot;Other Languages names&quot; section for {{p|Froakie}}'s Frubbles on its page, but I'm having trouble finding the remaining names for the page. Since I saw you add the rest of [[Tuli]] names, could I ask for your help with this? [[User:AnnieCat07|AnnieCat07]] ([[User talk:AnnieCat07|talk]]) 12:59, 26 January 2025 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Feraligatr's Trivia ==<br /> <br /> Hello :D I understand why you reverted my change to Feraligatr's trivia, I didn’t want to include the English transcription at first either. However, there are many people who play the games in English but avoid English-voiced products because they’re neither their primary language nor their preferred choice. As a result, they might think that the ''-gatr'' part is pronounced as &quot;gard&quot; or &quot;gart&quot; (as in &quot;regard&quot; and &quot;bogart&quot;). They might then argue that the name is unrelated to &quot;alligator&quot;, which is why I added the clause for clarification. For that reason, I wouldn't say the clause is entirely unnecessary. --[[User:Fawfaw|Fawfaw]] ([[User talk:Fawfaw|talk]]) 07:44, 3 April 2025 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :We don't note name pronunciations on the name origin section, even if they are subjected to multiple readings (e.g. Raikou, Rayquaza, Arceus). It's already suffice to say that it's from &quot;alligator&quot;. --[[User:神奇超龍|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 01:03, 4 April 2025 (UTC) [[User:神奇超龍|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 01:03, 4 April 2025 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Yarn names ==<br /> <br /> Hi! So I wanted to ask if you could help with adding the rest of the other language names for the different types of [[Yarn]] on its page? [[User:AnnieCat07|AnnieCat07]] ([[User talk:AnnieCat07|talk]]) 12:20, 31 July 2025 (UTC)<br /> :That might take a while. I don't have names for the yarns in other languages at the moment. --[[User:神奇超龍|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 14:12, 31 July 2025 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == PT18 ==<br /> <br /> Where did you get the spelling for the names of Competitors Eramis and Teriora from [[PT18]]. Is there some written source that lists them (they're non-speaking, so there's no credit for them), or were you relying solely on hearing (the Japanese YouTube subtitles are automatically generated and unreliable). And who is &quot;Competitor Teura&quot;? I haven't noticed a third competitor in that episode. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 06:13, 16 October 2025 (UTC)<br /> :I don't have official romanized names for those three. All I did was just respell Eramis as it sounded like foreign name to me. As for Teriora, that was not me who added that. &quot;Teura&quot; was the skier competitor in the ending scene. I don't have the actual names in Japanese, though the subtitles in the Chinese dub used 艾拉米/特瑞亚/泰拉. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 06:57, 16 October 2025 (UTC)<br /> ::So, they're just guess-spellings. This should be noted somehow. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 07:04, 16 October 2025 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Lee/Lily (Pokémon Art Academy) ==<br /> <br /> i noticed you added Lee and Lily from Pokémon Art Academy to the &quot;Player characters&quot; template. However, they only appear as NPCs to the unseen opposite-gendered player character, much like how Urbain and Taunie do in Z-A for Harmony and Paxton, respectively. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 20:18, 28 November 2025 (UTC)<br /> :Looks like I misread something on the [[Player character]] article then. Thanks for the heads up. --[[User:Chao|&lt;font color=&quot;#2B547E&quot;&gt;'''超龍'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt; 00:41, 29 November 2025 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The Ethan Eif Baby card sure has been released ==<br /> <br /> ebayDOTcoDOTuk/itm/226635232495 –[[User:Tsovoa Levone|Tsovoa Levone]] ([[User talk:Tsovoa Levone|talk]]) 01:45, 9 February 2026 (UTC)</div>

Tsovoa Levone https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ethan_(game)&diff=4483664 2026-02-06T20:03:22Z

<p>Tsovoa Levone: /* Names */ as seen on the Eif Baby card.</p> <hr /> <div>{{Redirect|Hibiki|the [[character of the day]] in [[EP169|Beauty and the Breeder]]|Zane}}<br /> {{Redirect|Gold (game)|the game titled &quot;Pokémon Gold Version&quot;|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions}}<br /> {{Search|male protagonist whose default name is {{j|クリス}} in the Japanese version of {{game|Crystal}}|the female player character in {{game|Crystal}} with the same Japanese name|Kris (game)}}<br /> {{Character Infobox<br /> |color={{gold color}}<br /> |corecolor={{gold color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{gold color dark}}<br /> |name=Ethan<br /> |jname=ヒビキ<br /> |tmname=Hibiki<br /> |image=HeartGold SoulSilver Ethan.png<br /> |size=200px<br /> |caption=Artwork from ''{{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}''<br /> |gender=Male<br /> |height=4'11&quot; (1.50 m) {{sup/4|HGSS}}<br /> |eyes=Black{{tt|*|Generation II}}, Gray{{tt|*|Generation IV}}, Brown{{tt|*|HeartGold and SoulSilver opening animation}} <br /> |hair=Black{{tt|*|Generation II}}, Dark Blue{{tt|*|Generation IV}}<br /> |hometown=[[New Bark Town]]<br /> |region=[[Johto]]<br /> |relatives={{jo|Mom}} (as player)&lt;br&gt;[[Day-Care Couple|Grandparents]], unnamed father (as NPC)<br /> }}<br /> {{Character Infobox/Game<br /> |color={{gold color light}}<br /> |trainer=[[Pokémon Trainer]], [[player character]]<br /> |gen={{gen|II}}, {{gen|IV}}, {{gen|VII}}, {{gen|VIII}}, {{gen|IX}}<br /> |games=[[Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|Gold, Silver]], {{v2|Crystal}}, [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold, SoulSilver]]&lt;br&gt;{{pkmn|Puzzle Challenge}}, {{pkmn|Masters EX}}<br /> |counterpart=[[Ethan (Masters)]]<br /> |enva=Ted Sroka&lt;ref&gt;[https://twitter.com/TedSroka/status/1531473379286392832 Ted Sroka on Twitter]&lt;/ref&gt; &lt;small&gt;({{pkmn|Masters EX}})&lt;/small&gt;<br /> |jpva=Daisuke Hirose&lt;ref name=&quot;Daisuke Hirose&quot;&gt;[https://twitter.com/pokemas_game/status/1395259492292567041 Pokémon Masters EX Twitter]&lt;/ref&gt; &lt;small&gt;({{pkmn|Masters EX}})&lt;/small&gt;<br /> }}<br /> {{Character Infobox/Anime<br /> |color={{gold color light}}<br /> |series=''[[Pokémon the Series]]''&lt;br&gt;''[[Pokémon Generations]]''&lt;br&gt;''[[Pokémon Evolutions]]''<br /> |counterpart=[[Jimmy (Johto)]]<br /> |debut=''[[The Legend of Thunder!]]'' &lt;small&gt;([[Pokémon animated series|Animated series]]; Gen II)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;br&gt;''[[M13|Zoroark: Master of Illusions]]'' &lt;small&gt;([[Pokémon animated series|Animated series]]; Gen IV)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;br&gt;''[[PG04|The Lake of Rage]]'' &lt;small&gt;({{pkmn|Generations}})&lt;/small&gt;&lt;br&gt;''[[PE07|The Show]]'' &lt;small&gt;({{pkmn|Evolutions}})&lt;/small&gt;<br /> |enva=[[Sean Schemmel]] &lt;small&gt;({{jo|Jimmy}})&lt;/small&gt;<br /> |jpva=[[Kenji Nojima]] &lt;small&gt;({{jo|Jimmy}})&lt;/small&gt;<br /> }}<br /> {{Character Infobox/Manga<br /> |color={{gold color light}}<br /> |series=''[[Pokémon Adventures]]''&lt;br&gt;''[[Pokémon Pocket Monsters]]''&lt;br&gt;''[[Pokémon Gold &amp; Silver: The Golden Boys]]''&lt;br&gt;''[[Pocket Monsters HGSS Jō's Big Adventure]]''<br /> |counterpart=[[Gold (Adventures)]], [[Gold (Pocket Monsters)]], [[Gold (Golden Boys)]], [[Jō]]<br /> |debut=''[[PS091|Murkrow Row]]'' &lt;small&gt;({{pkmn|Adventures}})&lt;/small&gt;&lt;br&gt;''[[PM062|Welcome Back, Clefairy!!]]'' &lt;small&gt;({{pkmn|Pocket Monsters}})&lt;/small&gt;&lt;br&gt;''[[GB01|Let's Go! The Journey Towards The Championship]]'' &lt;small&gt;(''[[Pokémon Gold &amp; Silver: The Golden Boys|GB]]'')&lt;/small&gt;&lt;br&gt;''[[JBA1|Aim to be the Strongest! The Hot-Blooded Brotherly Combination!!]]'' &lt;small&gt;([[Pocket Monsters HGSS Jō's Big Adventure|JBA]])&lt;/small&gt;<br /> }}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> '''Ethan''' (Japanese: '''{{j|ヒビキ}}''' ''Hibiki'') is the main {{player|playable character}} in {{game|Gold and Silver|s}} and is the male choice in {{game|Crystal}}, {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}. In Crystal, his female counterpart is {{ga|Kris}}, while in HeartGold and SoulSilver, his female counterpart is {{ga|Lyra}}.<br /> <br /> ==In the core series games==<br /> ===As the protagonist===<br /> Ethan's journey as a {{pkmn|Trainer}} begins when [[Professor Elm]] asks him to run an errand for [[Mr. Pokémon]], who lives north of [[Cherrygrove City]] on {{rt|30|Johto}}. Because he may encounter dangerous [[wild Pokémon]] along the way, Elm gives him a choice between three Pokémon to protect him: {{p|Cyndaquil}}, {{p|Totodile}} or {{p|Chikorita}}.<br /> <br /> Ethan spots another boy his age watching Elm's Lab from outside. When Ethan tries to talk to him, the boy abruptly shoves him away. This boy, {{ga|Silver}}, will become Ethan's rival.<br /> <br /> Ethan continues onward and finally meets Mr. Pokémon and completes his errand. While there he meets [[Professor Oak]] who, upon realizing Ethan's bond with his new Pokémon, gives him a [[Pokédex]]. On his way back home, Ethan again meets Silver, who has stolen one of Elm's remaining Pokémon. After defeating the boy in battle, the boy tells Ethan his name{{sup/2|GSC}}/Ethan learns the boy's name from his dropped {{ga|Trainer Card}}{{sup/4|HGSS}}, and Ethan relays it to the police in New Bark Town. Professor Elm allows Ethan to keep the Pokémon he chose earlier, and also encourages him to compete in the [[Johto League]].<br /> <br /> Ethan begins on a Pokémon journey in the [[Johto]] [[region]], facing off against its eight [[Gym Leader]]s, defeating and disbanding the revived [[Team Rocket]], and becoming [[Pokémon Champion|Pokémon League Champion]] by defeating the [[Elite Four]] and its previous Champion, [[Lance]] at [[Indigo Plateau]]. Along the way he also teaches Silver to respect Pokémon as living creatures and not just as tools for battle.<br /> <br /> After being declared the Pokémon League Champion, Ethan then journeys by [[S.S. Aqua|ship]] from [[Olivine City]] to [[Vermilion City]] in [[Kanto]]. Traveling around that region, he battles against another set of eight Gym Leaders. Upon getting permission from [[Professor Oak]] in [[Pallet Town]], Ethan heads for [[Mt. Silver]] via {{rt|28|Kanto}}. His journey comes to a close when, deep in Mt. Silver's cave, he faces the Champion from Pallet Town, Pokémon Trainer {{ga|Red}}, who had been training there since shortly after he became Pokémon League Champion [[Generation I|three]] [[Generation III|years prior]].<br /> <br /> ===As a non-playable character===<br /> ====Pokémon Gold, Silver, and Crystal====<br /> In {{game|Crystal}}, if {{ga|Kris}} is selected, then the male player character does not appear in the game, except as an opponent in the [[Trainer House]]. Even when playing as Kris, the player's sprite is changed to Ethan's during link battles and in the [[Trainer House]].<br /> <br /> ====Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver====<br /> In {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, if playing as {{ga|Lyra}}, Ethan appears as an NPC in the game. When playing as Ethan, Lyra takes on this role instead.<br /> <br /> Ethan meets the player in [[New Bark Town]] at the start of the game. In this particular scene, he is seen with a {{p|Marill}}. He teaches the player how to catch Pokémon on {{rt|29|Johto}} (replacing the [[Dude]] from {{3v2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}). His grandparents run the [[Pokémon Day Care]] on {{rt|34|Johto}}. He also gives the player the [[Fashion Case]] in [[Goldenrod Tunnel]] and the [[Vs. Recorder]] on {{rt|31|Johto}}.<br /> <br /> When called from certain locations, Ethan will mention that something will happen if the player takes a certain Pokémon there.<br /> <br /> ====Pokémon====<br /> Ethan uses this party to show the {{player}} how to catch Pokémon when {{ga|Lyra}} is selected as the player character in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}.<br /> <br /> {{Party<br /> | background = {{gold color}}<br /> | border = {{gold color dark}}<br /> | headcolor = {{gold color light}}<br /> | sprite = HGSS Ethan Back.png<br /> | prize = none<br /> | class = {{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer<br /> | classlink = Pokémon Trainer<br /> | name = Ethan<br /> | location = Johto Route 29<br /> | locationname = Route 29<br /> | game = HGSS<br /> | pokemon = 1<br /> }}<br /> {{Pokémon<br /> | gen = 4<br /> | ndex = 0183<br /> | pokemon = Marill<br /> | gender = both<br /> | level = 5<br /> | type1 = Water<br /> | ability = Unknown<br /> | move1 = Tackle | move1type = Normal | move1cat = Physical<br /> | move2 = Defense Curl | move2type = Normal | move2cat = Status<br /> }}<br /> {{Party/end}}<br /> =====Caught in tutorial=====<br /> {{Pokémon<br /> |gen=4<br /> |ndex=019<br /> |pokemon=Rattata<br /> |type1=Normal<br /> |ability=Run Away|ability2=Guts<br /> |level=2<br /> |gender=both<br /> |move1=Tail Whip|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status}}<br /> <br /> =====Mentioned=====<br /> When called with the [[Pokégear]] at different locations, Ethan will mention he owns certain Pokémon.<br /> <br /> {| width=&quot;100px&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | {{ActivePoké|Ethan|Tauros|Spr 4h 128.png|Normal|size=80px|link=no}}♂{{tt|*|Mentioned at Route 38}}<br /> | {{ActivePoké|Ethan|Bulbasaur|Spr 4h 001.png|Grass|Poison|size=80px|link=no}}{{tt|*|Mentioned at Route 1}}<br /> | {{ActivePoké|Ethan|Porygon|Spr 4h 137.png|Normal|size=80px|link=no}}{{tt|*|Mentioned at Route 7}}<br /> | {{ActivePoké|Ethan|Tangela|Spr 4h 114.png|Grass|size=80px|link=no}}{{tt|*|Mentioned at Celadon City}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==In the spin-off games==<br /> [[File:SSBU Pokemon Trainer palette Ethan.png|200px|thumb|The male Pokémon Trainer's Ethan-based alternate palette in [[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]]]<br /> ===Pokémon Puzzle Challenge===<br /> Ethan is the [[player character]] in the Challenge mode of [[Pokémon Puzzle Challenge]]. In this mode, he challenges the [[Gym Leader]]s and [[Elite Four]] of [[Johto]] in puzzle games.<br /> <br /> ===[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]===<br /> While Ethan himself does not appear directly, a palette swap color scheme based on Ethan's design appears for the male {{OBP|Pokémon Trainer|Super Smash Bros.}}, who is an incarnation of {{ga|Red}}.<br /> <br /> ===[[Pokémon Masters EX]]===<br /> {{main|Ethan (Masters)}}<br /> Ethan, who is based on the [[player character]], forms a [[sync pair]] with {{p|Cyndaquil}} and its evolved forms {{p|Quilava}} and {{p|Typhlosion}}, along with {{p|Lugia}} and {{p|Ho-Oh}} in [[Pokémon Masters EX]]. Ethan became a playable sync pair on January 15, 2020.<br /> <br /> Ethan has also made notable appearances in the game's Main Stories, [[Legendary Adventures]] and the [[Villain Arc]]. Unlike in {{game|Crystal}}, both Ethan and {{mas|Kris}} coexist in the same game.<br /> <br /> {{PairDex/h|Gold}}<br /> {{PairDex|075|Ethan|trainerlink=Ethan (Masters)#Cyndaquil → Quilava → Typhlosion|trainerimg=Ethan|0157|Cyndaquil → Quilava → Typhlosion|gender=male|pokemonlink=Cyndaquil (Pokémon)|Fire|Rock|Special Strike|6|Sync Pair Scout}}<br /> {{PairDex|075|Ethan|master=yes|trainerlink=Ethan (Masters)#Lugia|trainerimg=Ethan Sygna|sygna=[[Sygna suit|Sygna Suit]]|0249|Lugia|Flying|Ghost|Special Strike|exrole=Field|6|Master Fair Sync Pair Scout}}<br /> {{PairDex|075|Ethan|trainerlink=Ethan (Masters)#Ho-Oh|trainerimg=Ethan|0250|Ho-Oh|buddy=yes|Fire|Rock|Sprint|exrole=Field|6|Variety Sync Pair Scout}}<br /> {{PairDex|075|Ethan|trainerlink=Ethan (Masters)#Lugia (Arc Suit)|trainerimg=Ethan Arc|sygna=[[Arc suit|Arc Suit]]|0249|Lugia|buddy=yes|arc=yes|Flying|Rock|Multi|exrole=Field|6|Arc Suit Fair Sync Pair Scout}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ===[[Pokémon GO]]===<br /> {{main|Style (GO)}}<br /> To commemorate the Johto Festival, Ethan's outfit from {{g|HeartGold and SoulSilver}} were released as free style options in [[Pokémon GO]].<br /> <br /> ==Quotes==<br /> {{main|Ethan (game)/Quotes}}<br /> <br /> ==Counterparts==<br /> [[File:Jimmy.png|thumb|250px|{{jo|Jimmy}}, Ethan's first animated counterpart]]<br /> ===In animation===<br /> ====''Pokémon the Series''====<br /> =====Jimmy=====<br /> {{main|Jimmy (Johto)}}<br /> {{jo|Jimmy}}, the main protagonist of ''[[The Legend of Thunder!]]'', is the first {{pkmn|animation}} counterpart of Ethan, and seems to be based on him in the most basic sense, much more than {{Ash}} was based on his game counterpart, {{ga|Red}}. {{jo|Jimmy}} follows Ethan's design from {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}. Much like Ethan, Jimmy is from [[New Bark Town]] and receives [[Jimmy's Typhlosion|a first partner Pokémon]] from Professor Elm. He also encounters the counterparts of [[Silver (game)#Counterparts|Silver]] and [[Marina (Johto)|Kris]] on his journey.<br /> <br /> =====Ethan=====<br /> Ethan's second counterpart has a cameo appearance at the beginning of ''[[M13|Zoroark: Master of Illusions]]'', where he had a {{pkmn|battle}} against Ash. This counterpart follows Ethan's updated design from {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}. This counterpart is identified as &quot;Hibiki&quot; (Ethan's Japanese name) in the Japanese DVD of the movie, supporting that this is Ethan and not an updated design for Jimmy.<br /> <br /> ======Pokémon======<br /> This listing is of Ethan's known {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} in {{aniseries|PTS}}:<br /> {{TrainerPoké<br /> |width=84<br /> |trainer=Ethan<br /> |pkmn=Donphan<br /> |type1=Ground<br /> |img=Ethan Donphan.png<br /> |epnum=M13<br /> |epname=Zoroark: Master of Illusions<br /> |desc=Ethan used {{p|Donphan}} in a battle against Ash at the beginning of the thirteenth movie. During the battle, it fought {{AP|Pikachu}}. It was not shown who won the battle.<br /> <br /> Donphan's only known move is {{m|Rollout}}.}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Ethan PG.png|thumb|250px|Ethan in [[Pokémon Generations]]]]<br /> <br /> ====Pokémon Generations====<br /> Ethan made two brief appearances in ''[[PG04|The Lake of Rage]]''. First, he and [[Lance]] infiltrated the [[Team Rocket HQ]] separately. He then communicated with Lance through his [[Pokégear]] about updates on their mission, and acted as a decoy for Lance's attacks.<br /> <br /> Much like the other [[player character]]s depicted in Pokémon Generations, Ethan doesn't have any lines of dialogue.<br /> <br /> [[File:Ethan Evolutions.png|thumb|left|250px|Ethan in [[Pokémon Evolutions]]]]<br /> ====GOTCHA!====<br /> Ethan briefly appeared in [[GOTCHA!]], using his {{p|Tyranitar}} and {{p|Ampharos}}.<br /> <br /> ====Pokémon Evolutions====<br /> Ethan briefly appeared in ''[[PE07|The Show]]'', where he was seen in [[Ecruteak City]].<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===In the manga===<br /> Ethan, like most player characters, also has several counterparts in the various Pokémon manga series.<br /> <br /> ====Pokémon Adventures====<br /> [[File:Gold HGSS Adventures 2.png|thumb|100px|Ethan's Pokémon Adventures counterpart, Gold]]<br /> {{main|Gold (Adventures)}}<br /> Gold from [[Pokémon Adventures]] is based on Ethan. He's a stubborn boy with a tendency towards gambling and bragging about himself. Having lived with Pokémon for all his life, he has the ability to make [[Pokémon Egg]]s hatch and draw out the potential of the [[baby Pokémon]] hatched from them.<br /> <br /> ====Pokémon Pocket Monsters====<br /> {{main|Gold (Pocket Monsters)}}<br /> Gold from [[Pokémon Pocket Monsters]] is based on Ethan.<br /> <br /> ====Pokémon Gold &amp; Silver: The Golden Boys====<br /> {{main|Gold (Golden Boys)}}<br /> Gold, the main character of [[Pokémon Gold &amp; Silver: The Golden Boys]], is based on Ethan.<br /> <br /> ====Pocket Monsters HGSS Jō's Big Adventure====<br /> {{main|Jō}}<br /> Jō from [[Pocket Monsters HGSS Jō's Big Adventure]] is based on Ethan.<br /> <br /> ====Pocket Monsters HeartGold &amp; SoulSilver Go! Go! Pokéathlon====<br /> {{main|Takashi}}<br /> Takashi from [[Pocket Monsters HeartGold &amp; SoulSilver Go! Go! Pokéathlon]] is based on Ethan.<br /> <br /> ====Pokémon HeartGold SoulSilver: Pokédex Completion Comic====<br /> {{main|Soul (PCC)}}<br /> Soul from [[Pokémon HeartGold SoulSilver: Pokédex Completion Comic]] is based on Ethan.<br /> <br /> ==In the TCG==<br /> The following is a list of cards mentioning or featuring Ethan or his Pokémon in the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]].<br /> {{card list/header|Ethan's Pokémon|Fire|nocat=yes}}<br /> {{card list/card|cardname={{TCG ID|Destined Rivals|Ethan's Pinsir|1}}|type=Grass|newmark=I|rows=2}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Grass|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Uncommon|ennum=001/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=U|jpnum=001/063}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Grass|jpset=MEGA Dream ex|jpnum=001/193}}<br /> <br /> {{card list/card|cardname={{TCG ID|Destined Rivals|Ethan's Cyndaquil|32}}|type=Fire|newmark=I|rows=1}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Common|ennum=032/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=C|jpnum=015/063}}<br /> <br /> {{card list/card|cardname={{TCG ID|Destined Rivals|Ethan's Quilava|33}}|type=Fire|newmark=I|rows=1}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Common|ennum=033/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=C|jpnum=016/063}}<br /> <br /> {{card list/card|cardname={{TCG ID|Destined Rivals|Ethan's Typhlosion|34}}|type=Fire|newmark=I|rows=2}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Rare|ennum=034/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=R|jpnum=017/063}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Illustration Rare|ennum=190/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=AR|jpnum=070/063}}<br /> <br /> {{card list/card|cardname={{TCG ID|Destined Rivals|Ethan's Slugma|35}}|type=Fire|newmark=I|rows=2}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Common|ennum=035/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=C|jpnum=018/063}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Ascended Heroes|enrarity=Common|ennum=023/217|jpset=MEGA Dream ex|jpnum=018/193}}<br /> <br /> {{card list/card|cardname={{TCG ID|Destined Rivals|Ethan's Magcargo|36}}|type=Fire|newmark=I|rows=3}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Rare|ennum=036/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=R|jpnum=019/063}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Ascended Heroes|enrarity=Rare|ennum=024/217|jpset=MEGA Dream ex|jpnum=019/193}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Ascended Heroes|enrarity=Illustration Rare|ennum=222/217|jpset=MEGA Dream ex|jprarity=AR|jpnum=197/193}}<br /> <br /> {{card list/card|cardname={{TCG ID|Destined Rivals|Ethan's Ho-Oh ex|39|Ethan's Ho-Oh}}{{ex}}|type=Fire|newmark=I|rows=6}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Double Rare|ennum=039/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=RR|jpnum=020/063}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Ultra Rare|ennum=209/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=SR|jpnum=077/063}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Special Illustration Rare|ennum=230/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=SAR|jpnum=086/063}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Hyper Rare|ennum=239/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=UR|jpnum=090/063}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|jpset=SV-P Promotional cards|jpsymbol=SetSymbol SMPromo|jpnum=254/SV-P}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fire|enset=Ascended Heroes|enrarity=Double Rare|ennum=026/217|jpset=MEGA Dream ex|jprarity=RR|jpnum=021/193}}<br /> <br /> {{card list/card|cardname={{TCG ID|Destined Rivals|Ethan's Pichu|71}}|type=Lightning|newmark=I|rows=2}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Lightning|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Common|ennum=071/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=C|jpnum=036/063}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Lightning|jpset=Start Deck 100 Battle Collection|jpnum=241/742}}<br /> <br /> {{card list/card|cardname={{TCG ID|Destined Rivals|Ethan's Sudowoodo|93}}|type=Fighting|newmark=I|rows=1}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Fighting|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Common|ennum=093/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=C|jpnum=041/063}}<br /> <br /> {{card list/divider|Ethan's Trainer cards|Fire}}<br /> {{card list/card|cardname={{TCG ID|Destined Rivals|Ethan's Adventure|165}}|type=Supporter|newmark=I|rows=4}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Supporter|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Uncommon|ennum=165/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=U|jpnum=063/063}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Supporter|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Ultra Rare|ennum=221/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=SR|jpnum=084/063}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Supporter|enset=Destined Rivals|enrarity=Special Illustration Rare|ennum=236/182|jpset=Hot Wind Arena|jprarity=SAR|jpnum=089/063}}<br /> {{card list/release|type=Supporter|jpset=MEGA Dream ex|jpnum=174/193}}<br /> {{cardlist/footer|Fire}}<br /> <br /> ==Gallery==<br /> :For images on {{mas|Ethan}} in {{g|Masters EX}}, see: [[Ethan (Masters)#Gallery|Ethan (Masters)]]<br /> ===Artwork===<br /> {| style=&quot;margin:auto; text-align:center; {{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color}}; font-size:80%;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; width:25%; height:100px&quot;| [[File:Gold Silver Ethan.png|100px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; width:25%; height:100px&quot;| [[File:Crystal Ethan.png|100px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; width:25%; height:100px&quot;| [[File:Gold Silver Ethan running.png|100px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; width:25%; height:100px&quot;| [[File:Gold Silver Ethan Pokégear.png|150px]]<br /> |-<br /> | Artwork from&lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|Gold and Silver}}<br /> | Artwork from&lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Pokémon Crystal Version|Crystal}}<br /> | Artwork from&lt;br&gt;{{color2|000|Pokémon Crystal Version|Crystal}}<br /> | Checking his {{color2|000|Pokégear}}<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; height:100px&quot;| [[File:Gold Silver Ethan Time Capsule.png|150px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; height:100px&quot;| [[File:Game Freak Whitney Ethan.jpg|200px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; height:100px&quot;| [[File:Ruins of Alph.jpg|250px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; height:100px&quot;| [[File:Pokémon Gallery Encounter with Shining.png|250px]]<br /> |-<br /> | Approaching a {{color2|000|Time Capsule}}<br /> | Artwork from the {{color2|000|Game Freak}} website<br /> | In front of the {{color2|000|Ruins of Alph}}<br /> | Encountering a {{color2|000|Shiny Pokémon}}<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; overflow: hidden; height:100px&quot;| [[File:Arceus ruins art.png|250px]]<br /> | colspan style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; height:100px&quot;| [[File:HGSS Walking Pokémon.png|280px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; height:100px&quot;| [[File:Kotobukiya ArtFX J Figure Ethan Cyndaquil Lyra Chikorita.png|200px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; height:100px&quot;| [[File:Pokémon Day 2022 Johto Artwork.png|220px]]<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | In the {{color2|000|Sinjoh Ruins}}<br /> | {{color2|000|Walking Pokémon|Walking with Pokémon}}<br /> | Ethan and {{color2|000|Cyndaquil (Pokémon)|Cyndaquil}} concept artwork for {{color2|000|Kotobukiya figurines|Kotobukiya}} ArtFx J figurines<br /> | Artwork of Ethan fighting the {{color2|000|Red Gyarados}}&lt;br&gt;at the {{color2|000|Lake of Rage}} for {{color2|000|Pokémon Day}} by {{color2|000|Megumi Mizutani}}<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; height:100px&quot;| [[File:HM Whirlpool artwork.png|220px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; height:100px&quot;| [[File:Snorlax Stands Tall HGSS Project Snorlax.jpg|220px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background: #{{gold color light}}; height:100px&quot;| [[File:Ethan Typhlosion Sleeves.jpg|220px]]<br /> |-<br /> | Artwork showcasing {{color2|000|Whirlpool (move)|Whirlpool}} from {{color2|000|Pokémon Daisuki Club}}<br /> | Artwork of Ethan battling {{color2|000|Red (game)|Red}}&lt;br&gt;on the summit of {{color2|000|Mt. Silver Cave|Mt. Silver}} for {{color2|000|Project Snorlax}} by {{color2|000|Kazuma Koda}}<br /> | TCG sleeve featuring Ethan and {{color2|000|Typhlosion}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ===Game assets===<br /> ====In the [[core series]]====<br /> {| style=&quot;font-size:80%; margin:auto; text-align:center; {{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color}}; color:#000&quot;<br /> | colspan=&quot;7&quot; style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color dark}}; font-size:125%; color:white&quot; |'''{{color2|fff|Generation II}}'''<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; height:80px; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:Spr GS SW97 Ethan.png|56px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; width:80px; height:80px; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:Spr GS Ethan.png|56px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; width:80px; height:80px; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:Spr C Ethan.png|56px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:SW97 Ethan Back.png|48px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; width:80px; height:80px; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:GSC Ethan Back.png|48px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:SW97 Ethan OD.png|16px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; width:80px; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:EthanGSCwalkdown.png|14px]]<br /> |-<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|G}}{{GameIcon|S}}''' &lt;br&gt; '''{{color2|000|Pokémon Gold and Silver Spaceworld '97 demo|Space World 1997 demo}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|G}}{{GameIcon|S}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|C}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|G}}{{GameIcon|S}}''' &lt;br&gt; '''{{color2|000|Pokémon Gold and Silver Spaceworld '97 demo|Space World 1997 demo}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; (Back)<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|G}}{{GameIcon|S}}{{GameIcon|C}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; (Back)<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|G}}{{GameIcon|S}}''' &lt;br&gt; '''{{color2|000|Pokémon Gold and Silver Spaceworld '97 demo|Space World 1997 demo}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; (Overworld)<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|G}}{{GameIcon|S}}{{GameIcon|C}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; (Overworld)<br /> |-<br /> | colspan=&quot;7&quot; style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color dark}}; font-size:125%; color:white&quot; |'''{{color2|fff|Generation IV}}'''<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:Spr HGSS Ethan.png|80px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:Spr HGSS Ethan 2.png|80px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:GoldHGSS beta back.png|80px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:HGSS Ethan Back.png|80px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:Ethan walking.png|85px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:Ethan opening.png|139px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:Spr EthanHGSSstart.png|57px]]<br /> |-<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|HG}}{{GameIcon|SS}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|HG}}{{GameIcon|SS}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; ({{color2|000|Pokéathlon}})<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|HG}}{{GameIcon|SS}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; ({{color2|000|Pokémon_HeartGold_and_SoulSilver_beta#Sprites|Pre-release}}, Back)<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|HG}}{{GameIcon|SS}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; (Back)<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|HG}}{{GameIcon|SS}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; ({{color2|000|Game_intro#Pokémon_HeartGold_and_SoulSilver|Intro}})<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|HG}}{{GameIcon|SS}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; ({{color2|000|Game_intro#Pokémon_HeartGold_and_SoulSilver|Intro}})<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|HG}}{{GameIcon|SS}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; ({{color2|000|Gender#In_the_core_series_games_2|Gender select}})<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; height:80px; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:EthanChallenge.png|96px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:EthanHGSSwalkdown.png|32px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:EthanAthHGSS.png|32px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:EthanTRHGSSwalkdown.png|32px]]<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:HGSS Pokégear Icon Ethan.png|20px]]<br /> |-<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|HG}}{{GameIcon|SS}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; (VS)<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|HG}}{{GameIcon|SS}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; (Overworld)<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|HG}}{{GameIcon|SS}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; ({{color2|000|Pokéathlon}}, Overworld)<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|HG}}{{GameIcon|SS}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; ({{tccolor|Team Rocket Grunt}}, Overworld)<br /> |'''{{GameIcon|HG}}{{GameIcon|SS}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite &lt;br&gt; ({{color2|000|Pokégear}})<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ====In [[Spin-off Pokémon games|other games]]====<br /> {| style=&quot;font-size:80%; margin:auto; text-align:center; {{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color}}; color:#000&quot;<br /> | colspan=&quot;7&quot; style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color dark}}; font-size:125%; color:white&quot; |'''{{color2|fff|Generation II}}'''<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{gold color dark}}; background:#{{gold color light}}; width:100px; height:100px; overflow:hidden&quot; |[[File:Puzzle Challenge player.png|17px]]<br /> |-<br /> |'''{{color2|000|Pokémon Puzzle Challenge|Puzzle Challenge}}''' &lt;br&gt; Sprite<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> [[File:Sugimori Jimmy anime.png|Concept art for ''[[Pokémon the Series]]'' by Ken Sugimori|thumb|220px]]<br /> * The {{2v2|Gold|Silver}} artwork was originally presented in the '''''Official Guidebook of [[Nintendo Space World]] '97''''' (Japanese: '''{{j|NINTENDOスペースワールド'97オフィシャルガイドブック}}'''), along with {{ga|Silver}}, {{prof|Oak}}, {{tc|School Kid|Schoolboy}}, {{tc|Lass}}, {{tc|Firebreather}}, [[Kimono Girl]], {{tc|Fisher}}, {{p|Ho-Oh}}, {{p|Slowking}}, {{p|Ampharos}}, {{p|Donphan}}, and the [[List of Pokémon by New Pokédex number|new Pokédex]].<br /> * A 1997 pamphlet describing {{2v2|Gold|Silver}} mentions that the protagonist has a brother three years his senior. However, this aspect of his character was discarded by the time of the final release.<br /> * Ethan is 4'11&quot; (1.50 m) tall and weighs 88.2&amp;nbsp;lbs (40&amp;nbsp;kg) in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}. This is stated when checking the heights and weights of certain {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} in the [[Pokédex]]. As such, {{p|Clefable}} and {{p|Latias}} are both the same weight as Ethan.<br /> * Ethan is the only male player character to have two female counterparts; {{ga|Kris}} and {{ga|Lyra}}, or two {{pkmn|animation}} counterparts; {{jo|Jimmy}} and a cameo appearance at the beginning of ''[[M13|Zoroark: Master of Illusions]]''.<br /> ** Ethan's first animation counterpart having a different name, Jimmy, likely stems from the fact that Ethan did not become his canon name until {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}.<br /> * The majority of his Japanese default names from {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}} are shared with {{ga|Red}} and {{ga|Lucas}}. The same holds true for their {{ga|Lyra|respective}} {{ga|Leaf|female}} {{ga|Dawn|counterparts}}.<br /> * On the &quot;Area&quot; map on the [[Pokédex]] in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, Ethan's headshot sprite shows his hat from {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}. An earlier, unused version of this sprite is also found within other scrapped [[Pokégear]] graphics data, in which {{ga|Kris}} appears instead of {{ga|Lyra}}.<br /> * In [[Generation IV]], Ethan is depicted with two different eye colors. His eyes are gray in his Generation IV artwork while they are brown in the HeartGold and SoulSilver games, as seen in the opening animation.<br /> * One of {{SSB|Pokémon Trainer}}'s palette swaps in [[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]] has a color scheme based on Ethan's appearance in {{game2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}.<br /> * The Japanese optional name カケル ''Kakeru'', along with the English optional name ''Chase'', were eventually given to the {{ga|Chase|male protagonist}} of [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]].<br /> <br /> ==Names==<br /> He was first named '''Ethan''' (Japanese: '''{{j|ヒビキ}}''' ''Hibiki'') when he appeared as a [[non-player character]] in [[Generation IV]] games. He is also known by {{mas|Ethan|the same name}} in [[Pokémon Masters EX]].<br /> <br /> In the game manuals from [[Generation II]], his name depends on the game version: '''Gold'''{{sup/2|G}}, '''Silver'''{{sup/2|S}}, or '''Chris'''{{sup/2|C}} (Japanese: '''{{j|ゴールド}}''', '''{{j|シルバー}}''', or '''{{j|クリス}}''').<br /> <br /> The different names are seen in the player's story from the game manuals. For instance:<br /> * ''&quot;The Professor showed '''Gold''' three Pokémon [...]&quot;'' (referring to the player in Pokémon Gold's manual)<br /> * ''&quot;The Professor showed '''Silver''' three Pokémon [...]&quot;'' (referring to the player in Pokémon Silver's manual)<br /> <br /> In the player's story from Pokémon Crystal's manual, the Japanese name '''{{j|クリス}}''' simultaneously refers to either player character. However, this was adapted as &quot;'''you'''&quot; instead in the English version. For instance:<br /> <br /> * Japanese version of Crystal's manual:<br /> *: 「'''クリス'''はパートナーとなる1{{ruby|匹|ぴき}}のポケモンを{{ruby|選|えら}}ぶと」 ('''''Kris/Chris''' chooses 1 partner Pokémon and [...]'')<br /> * English version of Crystal's manual:<br /> *: ''&quot;After '''you''' choose your Pokémon [...]&quot;''<br /> <br /> In several game screenshots from the English manual of Pokémon Crystal, the male player character is named '''Chris'''.<br /> <br /> In the [[Pokémon Gold and Silver Spaceworld '97 demo]], his name is '''{{j|サトシ}}'''{{sup/2|G}} ''Satoshi'' or '''{{j|シゲル}}'''{{sup/2|S}} ''Shigeru''. These are {{Ash}}'s and {{Gary}}'s respective Japanese names, and correspond to the second entry in the list of optional names for {{ga|Red}} and {{ga|Blue}} in {{game|Red and Green|s}}.<br /> <br /> In [[Pokémon Puzzle Challenge]], he appears as an unnamed player character.<br /> <br /> Before he received an official name in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, most fans called him '''Gold''' (Japanese: '''{{j|ゴールド}}''' ''Gold'').<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Pokémon Gold manual intro.png|The player's story (named &quot;'''Gold'''&quot;) in the manual of [[Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|Pokémon Gold]]<br /> Pokémon Silver manual intro.png|The player's story (named &quot;'''Silver'''&quot;) in the manual of [[Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|Pokémon Silver]]<br /> Pokémon Crystal manual intro.png|The player's story (known as &quot;'''you'''&quot; in English) in the manual of {{game|Crystal}}<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> {{Flexheader|justify-content=start}}<br /> {| class=&quot;roundtable&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{HeartGold color}}; border:3px solid #{{HeartGold color dark}}&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{HeartGold color light}}&quot; | Language<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{HeartGold color light}}&quot; | Name<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{HeartGold color light}}&quot; | Origin<br /> |-<br /> | Japanese<br /> | ヒビキ ''Hibiki''<br /> | From 響き ''hibiki'' (echo; sound)<br /> |-<br /> | English, Latin American Spanish,&lt;br&gt;Indonesian, Brazilian Portuguese<br /> | Ethan<br /> | From ''echo''<br /> |-<br /> | German<br /> | Klarin<br /> | From ''Klarinette'' ({{wp|clarinet}})<br /> |-<br /> | European Spanish<br /> | Eco<br /> | From ''eco'' (echo)<br /> |-<br /> | French<br /> | Luth<br /> | From ''luth'' ({{wp|lute}})<br /> |-<br /> | Italian<br /> | Armonio<br /> | From ''armonio'' ({{wp|harmonium}}) and ''armonia'' (harmony)<br /> |-<br /> | Korean<br /> | 심향 ''Simhyang''<br /> | From 심 (心) ''sim'' (heart) and 향 (響) ''hyang'' (echo)<br /> |-<br /> | Chinese (Traditional)<br /> | 阿響 ''Ā Xiǎng'' / ''A Héung''<br /> | From 響 ''xiǎng / héung'' (echo; sound) <br /> |-<br /> | Chinese (Simplified)<br /> | 啊响 ''Ā Xiǎng'' / ''A Héung''<br /> |From 响 ''xiǎng / héung'' (echo; sound)<br /> |-<br /> | Thai<br /> | ฮิบิกิ ''Hibiki''<br /> | Transcription of his Japanese name<br /> |}<br /> {{Flexfooter}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Optional names===<br /> {| class=&quot;roundtable&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{gold color}}; border:3px solid #{{gold color dark}}&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{gold color light}}&quot; | Games<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{gold color light}}&quot; | Japanese<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{gold color light}}&quot; | English<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{gold color light}}&quot; | German<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{gold color light}}&quot; | European Spanish<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{gold color light}}&quot; | French<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{gold color light}}&quot; | Italian<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{gold color light}}&quot; | Korean<br /> |-<br /> |Gold<br /> |ゴールド ''Gold''&lt;br&gt;ヒロキ ''Hiroki''&lt;br&gt;テツオ ''Tetsuo''&lt;br&gt;タカシ ''Takashi''<br /> |GOLD&lt;br&gt;HIRO&lt;br&gt;TAYLOR&lt;br&gt;KARL<br /> |Gold&lt;br&gt;DANIEL&lt;br&gt;FRITZ&lt;br&gt;KARL<br /> |ORO&lt;br&gt;HIRO&lt;br&gt;TOMÁS&lt;br&gt;CARLOS<br /> |GOLD&lt;br&gt;JULIEN&lt;br&gt;JEAN&lt;br&gt;JACQUES<br /> |ORO&lt;br&gt;PAOLO&lt;br&gt;DIEGO&lt;br&gt;CARLO<br /> |골드 ''Gold''&lt;br&gt;수호 ''Suho''&lt;br&gt;인철 ''Incheol''&lt;br&gt;강산 ''Gangsan''<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFF;&quot;<br /> |Silver<br /> |シルバー ''Silver''&lt;br&gt;カモン ''Kamon''&lt;br&gt;トオル ''Tōru''&lt;br&gt;マサオ ''Masao''<br /> |SILVER&lt;br&gt;KAMON&lt;br&gt;OSCAR&lt;br&gt;MAX<br /> |Silber&lt;br&gt;THOMAS&lt;br&gt;OSKAR&lt;br&gt;HANS<br /> |PLATA&lt;br&gt;KAMON&lt;br&gt;OSCAR&lt;br&gt;MÁXIMO<br /> |SILVER&lt;br&gt;DANIEL&lt;br&gt;PIERRE&lt;br&gt;PAUL<br /> |ARGENTO&lt;br&gt;LUCA&lt;br&gt;PAOLO&lt;br&gt;MAX<br /> |실버 ''Silver''&lt;br&gt;청운 ''Cheong'un''&lt;br&gt;지겸 ''Jigyeom''&lt;br&gt;찬호 ''Chanho''<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFF;&quot;<br /> |Crystal<br /> |クリス ''Chris''&lt;br&gt;ヨウスケ ''Yōsuke''&lt;br&gt;タケヒロ ''Takehiro''&lt;br&gt;タカオ ''Takao''<br /> |CHRIS&lt;br&gt;MAT&lt;br&gt;ALLAN&lt;br&gt;JON<br /> |CHRIS&lt;br&gt;ARNOLD&lt;br&gt;GERT&lt;br&gt;JON<br /> |CRIS&lt;br&gt;ANTONIO&lt;br&gt;ÁLEX&lt;br&gt;EMILIO<br /> |CHRIS&lt;br&gt;BENJI&lt;br&gt;NICOLAS&lt;br&gt;JEAN<br /> |CHRIS&lt;br&gt;SERGIO&lt;br&gt;GIACOMO&lt;br&gt;MANUELE<br /> |<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFF;&quot;<br /> |HeartGold&lt;br&gt;SoulSilver<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;ハート ''Heart''{{sup/4|HG}}<br /> ソウル ''Soul''{{sup/4|SS}}<br /> サトシ ''Satoshi''<br /> ケン ''Ken''<br /> カケル ''Kakeru''<br /> ジャック ''Jack''<br /> ジャン ''Jean''<br /> ジョン ''John''<br /> カモン ''Kamon''<br /> タカシ ''Takashi''<br /> テツオ ''Tetsuo''<br /> トオル ''Tōru''<br /> ヒロキ ''Hiroki''<br /> マサオ ''Masao''<br /> タカオ ''Takao''<br /> タケヒロ ''Takehiro''<br /> トウゴ ''Tōgo''<br /> ヒトシ ''Hitoshi''<br /> ヨシナオ ''Yoshinao''&lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;Heart{{sup/4|HG}}<br /> Soul{{sup/4|SS}}<br /> Ash<br /> Nic<br /> Dion<br /> Duncan<br /> Jude<br /> Ross<br /> Shae{{sup/4|HG}} / Shea{{sup/4|SS}}<br /> Darrell<br /> Terell<br /> Chris<br /> Brad<br /> Dwight<br /> Talon<br /> Lonny<br /> Jess<br /> Eric<br /> Chase&lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;Heart{{sup/4|HG}}<br /> Soul{{sup/4|SS}}<br /> Karsten<br /> Gerd<br /> Hans<br /> Jack<br /> Jan<br /> John<br /> Daniel<br /> Helge<br /> Uhland<br /> Tobit<br /> Ugo<br /> Berno<br /> Jon<br /> Rafik<br /> Boris<br /> Thomas<br /> Silvio&lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;Heart{{sup/4|HG}}<br /> Soul{{sup/4|SS}}<br /> Ash<br /> Llamin<br /> Casio<br /> Job<br /> Chechu<br /> Juande<br /> Javi<br /> Ral<br /> Marino<br /> Toilo<br /> Nahum<br /> Max<br /> Morel<br /> Ralph<br /> Russ<br /> Erminio<br /> Quinn&lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;Heart<br /> Soul<br /> Dilan<br /> Gurvan<br /> Gabriel<br /> Allane<br /> Zack<br /> Marc<br /> Loris<br /> Max<br /> Damien<br /> Tom<br /> Greg<br /> Kamel<br /> Franck<br /> Ralph<br /> Seb<br /> Daniel<br /> Thomas&lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;Heart{{sup/4|HG}}<br /> Soul{{sup/4|SS}}<br /> Ash<br /> Nico<br /> Elmo<br /> Mattia<br /> Silvano<br /> Rossano<br /> Kamon<br /> Karl<br /> Gabry<br /> Oscar<br /> Dino<br /> Daniel<br /> Manuele<br /> Ralph<br /> Lucio<br /> Paolo<br /> Marco<br /> &lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |&lt;ab&gt;하트 ''Heart''{{sup/4|HG}}<br /> 소울 ''Soul''{{sup/4|SS}}<br /> 지우 ''Jiwoo''<br /> 캔 ''Ken''<br /> 호진 ''Hojin''<br /> 상우 ''Sang'u''<br /> 쟝 ''Jyang''<br /> 재범 ''Jaebeom''<br /> 청운 ''Cheong'un''<br /> 강산 ''Gangsan''<br /> 인철 ''Incheol''<br /> 지겸 ''Jigyeom''<br /> 숙호 ''Sukho''<br /> 찬호 ''Chanho''<br /> 지훈 ''Jihun''<br /> 윤호 ''Yunho''<br /> 케이 ''Kay''<br /> 다인 ''Dain''<br /> 상현 ''Sanghyeon''&lt;/ab&gt;<br /> |}{{-}}<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> &lt;references /&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Related articles==<br /> {{Player characters|gold}}<br /> {{Rival characters|gold}}<br /> {{Capture tutor}}<br /> {{NPC|gold|johto=yes}}<br /> {{Project CharacterDex notice}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Gold, Silver and Crystal characters]]<br /> [[Category:HeartGold and SoulSilver characters]]<br /> [[Category:Champions]]<br /> [[Category:Friend characters]]<br /> [[Category:Pokémon Generations characters]]<br /> [[Category:Pokémon Evolutions characters]]<br /> <br /> [[de:Klarin]]<br /> [[es:Eco]]<br /> [[fr:Luth]]<br /> [[it:Armonio (gioco)]]<br /> [[ja:ヒビキ]]<br /> [[zh:阿響]]</div>

Tsovoa Levone https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ethan_(game)&diff=4461997 2026-01-04T10:27:55Z

<p>Tsovoa Levone: /* Why is he so hot */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>Hey, one of his opcional names is &quot;Chris&quot;. [[User:Haruka uzumaki|Haruka uzumaki]] 16:01, 24 September 2007<br /> :Only in Crystal, though. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 16:12, 5 March 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Yeah, as you know, &quot;Chris&quot; can be a guy and a girl's name.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|&lt;font color=&quot;blue&quot;&gt;DRAGON&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|&lt;font color=&quot;yellow&quot;&gt;BEAST&lt;/font&gt;]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|&lt;font color=&quot;red&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;X&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]] 12:12, 18 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == HGSS ==<br /> The Sunday preview confirmed him --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]], &lt;sc&gt;&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Nick.|something to say?]]&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sc&gt; 23:30, 9 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == ARTWORK ==<br /> I have a better Artwork for him (i think)<br /> http://i44.tinypic.com/30cogw3.jpg<br /> should we use this?--[[User:DawnXPiplup|DawnXPiplup]] 09:46, 16 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> :No.--[[User:Force Fire|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;'''F'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;orce&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Force Fire|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;'''F'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Lugia (Pokémon)|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;ire&lt;/span&gt;]] 12:15, 15 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::I wouldn't say that one is better. It's not as good as quality as the other one. Plus, its jps.--[[User:Clarky13|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;'''Clarky'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Clarky13|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000;&quot;&gt;'''13'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 12:18, 15 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Just so you know, the one most people can see now is not the most updated one. I just posted one. Archives has problems again. &lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Cracked; font-size:125%&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#525252;&quot;&gt;tc&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt;[[User:Tc26|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520;&quot;&gt;²₆&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Tc26|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520;&quot;&gt;tc&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User:Tc26/Sandbox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#525252;&quot;&gt;26&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt; 12:20, 15 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Indeed. Compare the history of {{img|HGSS Gold.png|this one}} from the [[a:File:HGSS Gold.png|other one]]. It's different. Admins (or system admins) are dealing with this problem, which we hopefully be fixed soon. '''[[User:Kevzo8|&lt;font color=&quot;#66CCCC&quot;&gt;K&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#70DBDB&quot;&gt;e&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#ADEAEA&quot;&gt;v&lt;/font&gt;]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|&lt;font color=&quot;#ADEAEA&quot;&gt;z&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#70DBDB&quot;&gt;o&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#66CCCC&quot;&gt;8&lt;/font&gt;]]''' 12:24, 15 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Aside from it being jpg format, which one is the actual picture? Everything's darker in the one already on the article, but the one here looks like what it's {{tt|supposed to be|Sugimori coloring}}. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 12:26, 15 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::: The darker one appears to be a render that somebody uploaded. The most updated version of the file is the official Sugimori artwork as posted on the [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/game/ds/hgss/ HG/SS] game website. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 12:32, 15 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The part about Gold's pants ==<br /> <br /> It says Gold is the only male player character who wears shorts. This is not true; Brendan wears shorts in Emerald. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 04:03, 15 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> :It says he's the only male character who doesn't wear long pants. That is different. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 04:50, 15 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Yes that's true. But under those shorts are pants. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#33CC66;&quot;&gt;'''ケンジ'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6600CC;&quot;&gt;'''の'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF00CC;&quot;&gt;'''ガール'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 05:18, 15 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::While it is a confusing style choice (and hell for cosplay), Brendan does wear trousers and then shorts on top. They're not long socks, at least from what I can tell. Unless you have some official source which specifically says something about Brendan's choice of lower-half clothing. '''[[User:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; face=&quot;Verdana&quot;&gt;TheChrisD&lt;/font&gt;]]''' &lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Rants&lt;/font&gt;]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Edits&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 16:20, 15 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::How exactly can you tell that they aren't long socks? They look like tube socks that are about the same color as his shorts (notice how what you're calling &quot;long pants&quot; aren't as baggy as his pants in Ruby and Sapphire; rather, they're tight like socks). It's not like there aren't socks that are that long. Do ''you'' have an official source regarding his clothes? Wearing shorts over long pants isn't exactly common. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 22:58, 15 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::Do you have a source that they are are tube socks? --[[User:PsychicRider|PsychicRider]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:PsychicRider|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|C]]&lt;/sup&gt; 23:08, 15 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::(EC) I've debated it a lot myself, but short of getting some official word on it, it's best to go based on what most people assume it to be at first glance, which seems to be shorts over trousers. I'm really unsure myself, seeing as I don't try and pay all too much attention to it, and my interpretation is also slightly askew because [[Ruby (Special)|of the manga]]. This topic is starting to drift away from being related to Gold and more being related to Brendan, so can we either get back onto it, or move this section to [[Talk:Brendan (game)|Brendan's page]]. '''[[User:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; face=&quot;Verdana&quot;&gt;TheChrisD&lt;/font&gt;]]''' &lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Rants&lt;/font&gt;]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Edits&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 23:11, 15 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::::No, but it doesn't look like you have a source saying he's wearing two pairs of pants at the same time, which is more unusual than wearing shorts and long socks. I think they look like socks because whatever he's wearing under his shorts doesn't look like his pants in Ruby and Sapphire, which were baggier and not a solid color. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 23:15, 15 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :{{tt|Let's move this [[Talk:Brendan (game)|elsewhere]], ladies.|No offense.}} --[[Gallade|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#00A000;&quot;&gt;'''エ'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Galladeon|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A0;&quot;&gt;'''ルレ'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Galladeon|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B69E00;&quot;&gt;'''イ'''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#93abc3;&quot;&gt;'''ド'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 23:22, 15 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Could i add this? ==<br /> <br /> One of his pictures features him with a green poké ball. And the same with eusine. Is that good trivia to add.--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 15:19, 11 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Gold's Gen II sprites ==<br /> <br /> I started up Crystal and got into a battle with [[Carrie]] at the Trainer House and Gold's Gold and Silver sprite is used for her (her page mentions using Gold's sprite), despite Gold's own Trainer Card displaying that game's new sprite (shown in the sprites section). Can this usage be mentioned? The only problem is that I haven't been able to confirm how it's used for other Trainer House opponents (such as [[Cal]]) as well as during link battles. Does anyone know what the case is with those? --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 23:57, 19 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Cal uses character's sprite because he's a placeholder for a proper player (who the player connects, when he uses IR-DA capabilities of GBC). This is a simply technical limitation. If Cal's gonna be featured in HGSS, then he'll probably have his own sprite (he had his own design in Stadium 2, anyways). --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 06:17, 20 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::I wasn't referring to how they use Gold's sprite, I'm talking about how in Crystal they don't use [[a:File:Gold_crystal.png|his sprite from that game]], instead using [[a:File:Gold.gif|his sprite from Gold and Silver]]. I should have made that more clear. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 14:45, 20 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::That's something to mention in Cal's article, I think. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:48, 20 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::[[Cal (game)|Done.]] --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 02:13, 27 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Defaults in HGSS ==<br /> <br /> Well, Festa's video shows him having a default name of Hiroki and another as Soul, while Soul gets Miki and Heart. Now, given that's not a guarantee of their names. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 19:53, 23 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Keep in mind that those Festa videos are using SS and not HG, hence the male character being Soul and the female being Heart, etc.—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] &lt;small&gt;•&lt;/small&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 07:11, 24 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Personally, I think we should wait to see what their names are when they're NPCs (such as how the names for Brendan, May, Dawn, and Lucas come from the names used as NPCs). Unless of course Game Freak doesn't give them set names like previous opposite-gender characters (I guess there isn't anything stopping Game Freak from doing that). --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 17:48, 19 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pointless trivia I noticed ==<br /> <br /> Gold appears to be the only player character (at least the only male player character) to wear his headgear (in this case, a baseball cap) backward. (I'm only counting game characters, since [[Red (Special)|Red's Pokémon Adventures counterpart]] wears his hat like this in the chapters based on Generation I.) Can this be added? --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 17:55, 19 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == In the Trivia section... ==<br /> <br /> &quot;All female player characters either wear a skirt (Leaf and Dawn) or cycling shorts (Kris, May, and Soul).&quot;<br /> :What the crap is that supposed to mean?--'''Dark''' [[Mask of Ice|&lt;font color=&quot;black&quot;&gt;'''ICE'''&lt;/font&gt;]] &lt;small&gt;(User:Cold)&lt;sup&gt;([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/small&gt; 21:02, 30 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::It does not sound that important to me.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#333333&quot;&gt;Midnight&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#191970&quot;&gt;''Blue''&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 21:07, 30 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::: {{tt|It's not.|Or are you referring to my comment?}} First it's talking about guys, then it's talking about girls. (Kinda like most of the boys at my school.) Could an admin please take it off?--'''Dark''' [[Mask of Ice|&lt;font color=&quot;black&quot;&gt;'''ICE'''&lt;/font&gt;]] &lt;small&gt;(User:Cold)&lt;sup&gt;([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/small&gt; 21:16, 30 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::I was talking about why is that in there. That trivia would make more sense if there were like 10-20 girls in the games. And yes why is/was it on a boy's page?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#333333&quot;&gt;Midnight&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#191970&quot;&gt;''Blue''&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 00:40, 31 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == B/c this is protected ==<br /> <br /> Can someone put this trivia in.<br /> &quot;Gold is the only male player not to have a &quot;common&quot; name.&quot; Red is a name but not as common as Brenden and Lucas.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#333333&quot;&gt;Midnight&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#191970&quot;&gt;''Blue''&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 23:25, 2 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::I don't know about you, but I have never once heard of anyone else named &quot;Red&quot; --[[User:Gen1king|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F08030;&quot;&gt;'''GE'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Gen1king|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#CC0000&quot;&gt;'''N1'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#660000&quot;&gt;'''KI'''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#330000&quot;&gt;'''NG'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:15, 28 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::You've never seen That 70's Show? Or Back to the Future? Or played Spyro? There are Reds in each. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:30, 7 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hibiki? ==<br /> <br /> Since the girl was confirmed to be Kotone, why isn't Gold's article moved to Hibiki. It was shown on the PokeGear screen referring to him as such and doesn't seem likely the opposite gender character is nameable.<br /> <br /> And the girl is Kotone, not Hibiki. {{unsigned|Raine}}<br /> :It could of been one of the default names or the person who was playing the game named it. Therefore, Hibiki is not his real name just wait for the games to come out. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#40ad72;&quot;&gt;'''☆Cool'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD733;&quot;&gt;'''ピカチ'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0098d8;&quot;&gt;'''ュウ!'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 00:55, 6 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> Ah, but the girl was the player during the time. (When Shoko was playing HG.)<br /> <br /> It wasn't referring to the player character since it was on the Phone List.--[[User:Raine|Raine]] 00:59, 6 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :The player's mom refers to a friend named Hibiki while playing as the girl, so it must indeed be his NPC name. See here: [http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g29/vs_seeker/mom.jpg]. This also matches Kotone's name (which means &quot;koto sound&quot; [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koto_(musical_instrument)]), since it means echo, sound, reverberation, noise. [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 08:36, 9 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> So... since Hibiki has been confirmed to be his official name, shouldn't the page be renamed Hibiki (game), and &quot;Gold (game)&quot; can redirect here? [[User:FireMeowth|FireMeowth]] 14:53, 9 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::If anything, the page should be split with all Gen II info remaining here, and all Gen IV info on a new page. '''[[User:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; face=&quot;Verdana&quot;&gt;TheChrisD&lt;/font&gt;]]''' &lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Rants&lt;/font&gt;]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Edits&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 15:03, 9 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Well, new information generally replaces old information, and he was never formally called ''Gold'' in the [[Generation II]] games, so... I think we whould move this to ''Hibiki (game)''. It may be stated in the page that he used to be known as Gold before [[Generation IV]]. - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 17:59, 9 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::We didn't rename Blue's article to Green when FRLG were released. So should we change this article's name? - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 21:10, 9 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::Cause people hate Kotone's name. That's the only reason it is an issue. They figure since she can't be Soul, Gold should be Hibiki. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#33CC66;&quot;&gt;'''ケンジ'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6600CC;&quot;&gt;'''の'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF00CC;&quot;&gt;'''ガール'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 21:13, 9 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I thought that it was because Blue's NPC Appearance trumps his Rival Appearance, since the player can still name him in FRLG. If he's &quot;Green&quot; in HGSS (outside Japan, anyway), then I think he should be moved to Green. Thus, I think Gold should be moved to Hibiki... once we get his English Name, anyway.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 21:46, 9 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::::It's not just because of that, Kenji-girl. I liked Kotone's actual name better than Soul. We didn't rename Blue because that's the only way he was formally referred to in the games. Even with FRLG released, he was never called Green. Hibiki was never formally called Gold in the games, and now '''he's being clearly called Hibiki'''. So, I think that's it. - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 22:08, 9 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::So you're saying that the GS protagonist had no name until Game Freak created the remakes? I find that pretty bizarre, considering that the Crystal girl HAD a name. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 22:41, 9 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::: He had no '''in-game''' name. Now it was confirmed to be Hibiki, so... - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 22:52, 9 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::But he must have had a official name, seeing how Kris had one - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 23:05, 9 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::&quot;Kris&quot; does not have an official in-game name. The only official names she's got are are the ones from the anime and manga. Remember - official names =/= default names. [[User:FireMeowth|FireMeowth]] 10:06, 10 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::::Wrong. The back of the Pokémon Crystal box calls her &quot;Kris&quot;. Specifically, it says &quot;New female trainer Kris faces the Unown&quot; [http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/7/375087_50686_back.jpg]. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 19:27, 10 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::: &quot;while in HeartGold and SoulSilver his female counterpart is Kotone. If one is to choose play as Kotone, Gold will still appear as an NPC, with the name Hibiki.&quot; Yes? No? [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']]&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:49, 9 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::: While I do believe his name is Hibiki, I'm not sure it should be moved quite yet, not until the English Version is released, because as unlikely as it could be, what if the PCI decides to name Hibiki, Gold? We would've changed his name basically just because his Japanese name is Hibiki. I think a note or something would be best at this time. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 17:20, 10 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::Hey, guys. Here's a solution. We have a perfectly fine English name for the guy. Why move it to a Japanese name that's gonna get changed anyway in six months? Like with {{ga|Blue}}, we should ''wait for the English release'', and then wait until the teams get ripped and see what the &quot;true name&quot; is of this guy. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 22:28, 11 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::Shouldn't we at least give his Japanese name as Hibiki? It still gives his Japanese name as Gold and never mentions the name Hibiki. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 19:10, 12 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::::We should. And we should move the page. That &quot;we'll have to move his page someday anyway&quot; argument is stupid. Such things happen. And what's wrong? Is this so much of a deal to change the links. Having him under &quot;Gold&quot; is stupid and unreasonable now. As of now, this name is just a mere fanname. Same goes for {{ga|Pearl}}. &quot;It's too late&quot; argument isn't really right. It's not the policy that we should go by. Pearl's name is Barry and Gold's (Japanese) name is Hibiki. Bear with it. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 11:50, 13 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::::apparently, hibiki also means echo, sound, or noise [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 19:17, 13 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::::Maxim: If Gold is just a &quot;fanname&quot; like you say, then what was this guy's real name during the 2nd gen? Again, I don't buy that he was a nameless character, seeing how his original female counterpart, the Crystal girl, had a official name [http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/7/375087_50686_back.jpg]. And for that matter, is the name we use for the GSC rival, Silver, a &quot;fanname&quot;, too? - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 01:15, 14 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::::::Silver wasn't a fanname. If you leave the name blank in Crystal his name is Silver. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 01:18, 14 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::::::So basically, we're assuming that:<br /> ::::::::::::::::The RGBY protagonist is named after the &quot;first&quot; version of the generation he debuted on, Red.<br /> ::::::::::::::::The RGBY rival is named after the &quot;second&quot; version of the generation he debuted on, Green/Blue.<br /> ::::::::::::::::The GSC rival is named after the &quot;second&quot; version of the generation he debuted on, Silver.<br /> ::::::::::::::::Going from that, isn't it safe to assume that Gold was the GSC boy's original official name (not just a fan name), and the remakes simply changed it to Hibiki because, as a set name ala Brendan/May/Lucas/Dawn, it would look out of place in comparison with the new girl's name (saying &quot;Gold and Kotone&quot; sounds much more weird than saying &quot;Hibiki and Kotone&quot;)? Also, more evidence of the GSC boy's original name being Gold is that Red, Blue/Green, Silver and Kris' names appear in the games at top of the list of selectable player names. Red's name was was the top one in Pokémon Red, Blue/Green's was in Pokémon Blue/Green, Silver's was in Pokémon Silver, and Kris' was in Pokémon Crystal (as the first available name for the female trainer). So following the pattern used by every other Gen I/II player character and rival, the GSC boy's name should be the one that is at the top of the list of selectable names in Pokémon Gold, Gold (duh). - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 01:38, 14 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::::::::Nope, the protaganist and rival from GSC The protaganists and rivals names were both confirmed in GS, where they could be battled. Official names for them was never used pre-HGSS. And we can't rely on DATA, now when we DO have an official name - in-game data is often different than the official name, for instance, Blues in-game data in FRLG calls him &quot;KERRY&quot;, or something similar. To name the characters after versions was dropped sometime between Yellow and Crystal. [[User:Pokémon Lover King Mario|Pokémon Lover King Mario]] 07:39, 23 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> : I don't see why this is such a big deal. The only reason I can think of to keep the name &quot;Gold&quot; is nostalgia. Officially, his name is now Hibiki, like it is written in HGSS. [[User:Fairy Red|Fairy Red]] 04:23, 15 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> :: True, but Good O' Bulba Likes to have articles with English names. Since &quot;Gold&quot; is the closest we have to an English name, it will stay as is.&lt;small&gt; for a while anyway&lt;/small&gt; &lt;big&gt;'''End of discussion'''&lt;/big&gt; [[Special:Contributions/ShinyPikachu|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background:#E57E4C&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFFF00;&quot;&gt;'''Shiny'''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]][[User:ShinyPikachu|&lt;span style=&quot;background:#FFFF00&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E57E4C;&quot;&gt;'''Pika'''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:13, 15 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Sorry to respond to something so old, but I don't remember you being promoted to admin, {{tt|ShinyPika|If you actually were, blame your userpage, it lies! Please don't block me!!!}}. I don't recall normal users to be able to just do that. Just please try to avoid that stuff in the future, it can lead to problems, kay :) --[[User:Gen1king|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F08030;&quot;&gt;'''GE'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Gen1king|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#CC0000&quot;&gt;'''N1'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#660000&quot;&gt;'''KI'''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#330000&quot;&gt;'''NG'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:13, 28 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Gold is a secondary character if Kotone is chosen as the player character. ==<br /> <br /> Gold is a secondary character if Kotone is chosen as the player character. His role seems to be identical to Kotone if Gold is chosen as the player character. His Pokemon is a Marill. Could someone please add this important tidbit to the article? Thanks. [[User:CubeShapedWatermelon|CubeShapedWatermelon]] 21:49, 14 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Also, somebody should probably add that while playing as Kotone, his grandparents run the Day Care.<br /> :(...And is it just me, or is the &quot;Storyline in the games&quot;-section pretty... unneeded?) [[User:FireMeowth|FireMeowth]] 08:46, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Yep. It is just you. If the other player characters have it, then why shouldn't Gold? - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 20:07, 21 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::May doesn't have it. Brendan doesn't have it. Dawn doesn't have it. Lucas doesn't have it. KOTONE doesn't even have it. Besides, isn't the storyline already written in the respective game's article? [[User:FireMeowth|FireMeowth]] 19:14, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == His appearence? ==<br /> <br /> Did he slim down from Gold/Silver to Crystal? Or, at least his clothing is less baggy in his Crystal sprite, and artwork. His pants seem longer too. Is that notable trivia? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 20:14, 15 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :The fact he's the only male PC to wear shorts (or at the very least not full trousers) is already mentioned. Also, the slimmer look you're talking about is mainly because his new outfit consists of hooded jacket, rather than a full-on hoodie. &lt;small&gt;(Also this is very forum-y)&lt;/small&gt; '''[[User:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; face=&quot;Verdana&quot;&gt;TheChrisD&lt;/font&gt;]]''' &lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Rants&lt;/font&gt;]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Edits&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:06, 16 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Sugimori got better at drawing, too. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 16:41, 16 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> Maybe he is meant to be a year or so older in the remakes. That would explain why he looks taller and slimmer. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 20:56, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pokémon Party ==<br /> <br /> Can someone change the color of the box?<br /> {{Party/Single|color={{silver color}}|bordercolor={{silver color dark}}<br /> |headcolor={{silver color light}}<br /> |sprite=Spr HGSS Ethan.png‎<br /> |class={{color2|000|Pokémon Trainer}}<br /> |name=Hibiki<br /> |prize=None<br /> |game=[[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver|{{color|000000|HeartGold and SoulSilver}}]]<br /> |location=[[Route 29|{{color|000000|Route 29}}]]<br /> |pokemon=1<br /> |pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=183|pokemon=Marill<br /> |gender=male|level=5|type1=Water|ability=<br /> |move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Defense Curl|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> to<br /> {{Party/Single|color={{gold color}}|bordercolor={{gold color dark}}<br /> |headcolor={{gold color light}}<br /> |sprite=Spr HGSS Ethan.png‎<br /> |class={{color2|000|Pokémon Trainer}}<br /> |name=Hibiki<br /> |prize=None<br /> |game=[[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver|{{color|000000|HeartGold and SoulSilver}}]]<br /> |location=[[Route 29|{{color|000000|Route 29}}]]<br /> |pokemon=1<br /> |pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=183|pokemon=Marill<br /> |gender=male|level=5|type1=Water|ability=<br /> |move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Defense Curl|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}}}<br /> {{Party/Footer}}<br /> I think it better. --[[User:Nechigawara|Nechigawara]]-[[User talk:Nechigawara|Talking]] 02:14, 25 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yep, sure is. But I used HeartGold color because it is in HeartGold only. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 06:37, 25 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == &quot;Game&quot; ==<br /> <br /> Why do these articles have [Name of the player](game) as their names? Examples [[Red (game)]], [[Gold (game)]], [[Kris (game)]]. But the articles are about the trainers, not a game called Red, Gold or Kris. Shouldn't we change them to &quot;Red (trainer)&quot;, &quot;Gold (trainer)&quot; or &quot;Kris (trainer)&quot;?--[[User:Dr. James|Dr. James]] 03:47, 30 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :No. It means (name) ([From the] game). &lt;sup&gt;Birthday!&lt;/sup&gt; ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Red&quot;&gt;Cu&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Bronze&quot;&gt;bo&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Green&quot;&gt;ne&lt;/font&gt;]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|&lt;font color=&quot;Black&quot;&gt;King&lt;/font&gt;]] 03:48, 30 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::But then, shouldn't it be &quot;Gold (Pokémon Gold, Silver, Crystal, HeartGold and SoulSilver)&quot;? --[[User:Dr. James|Dr. James]] 03:51, 30 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::That'd be way too long. &lt;sup&gt;Birthday!&lt;/sup&gt; ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Red&quot;&gt;Cu&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Bronze&quot;&gt;bo&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Green&quot;&gt;ne&lt;/font&gt;]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|&lt;font color=&quot;Black&quot;&gt;King&lt;/font&gt;]] 03:51, 30 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::The game designers will not likely name two main characters the same thing.--&lt;span style=&quot;border: 2px solid #00CCCC&quot;&gt;[[User:GreenGyarados|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#00FF00&quot;&gt;♫Green&lt;/span&gt;]][[Gyarados (Pokémon)|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0BDA51&quot;&gt;♫ギャラドス♫&lt;/span&gt;]][[User Talk:GreenGyarados|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#00CCCC&quot;&gt;Talk♫&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt; 03:53, 30 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::The parenthesis should indicate ''what are we talking about''. Like this, if the article's name is &quot;Gold (game)&quot;, then the article should be about a ''game'' called ''Gold''. However, we are talking about a trainer, or player. So it should be &quot;Gold (player)&quot; or &quot;Gold (trainer)&quot;. I hope you understand my point. --[[User:Dr. James|Dr. James]] 03:55, 30 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::While I see your point, (trainer) would not work, as the (game) is also used to distinguish game characters from anime characters and manga characters, and they are trainers in all three media. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|&lt;small&gt;(talk)&lt;/small&gt;]] 04:12, 30 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::How about &quot;player&quot;? Because Gold, Kris and Red are &quot;players&quot; (playable trainers) after all. It's just..., we aren't talking about a game here, but a player. --[[User:Dr. James|Dr. James]] 04:15, 30 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::::I see where you're coming from, but like others have said, it basically means Gold (from the game). The concept comes from stuff like [[May (game)]] and [[May (anime)]] both existing, and the rest just conform to that established standard. Besides, [[Gold (game)]] differentiates from [[Gold (Special)]] as well. While I do see you're point, I don't think it's gonna be changed anytime soon. It's just an established system that's worked fine so far. [[User:Zesty Cactus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#006400&quot;&gt;'''Zesty'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#3CB371&quot;&gt;'''Cactus'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 04:48, 30 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Mmmm... Gotcha. Okay, it was only a suggestion, because a normal user wouldn't understand the title so easily. Even I didn't understand it, that's why I asked it. I hope it changes, to make Bulbapedia a better place. --[[User:Dr. James|Dr. James]] 04:44, 1 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hibiki's namelist in HGSS? ==<br /> <br /> Kotone's namelist is already up, so does anyone have Hibiki's yet? Also, I just noticed that he shares several names with Red and Lucas/Kouki (ala Leaf, Kotone, and Dawn/Hikari sharing names).<br /> --[[User:Raine|Raine]] 01:53, 6 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Challenge sprite ==<br /> <br /> [[a:File:EthanChallenge.png]] Could someone put this sprite in Gold's Sprite box? thank-you. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|&lt;sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background:#FF8040&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFFFFD&quot;&gt;Shiny&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;]][[User:ShinyPikachu|&lt;span style=&quot;background:#FFFF00&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E57E4C;&quot;&gt;'''Pika'''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 14:34, 9 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :[[a:File:HGSS Ethan Back.png]] And his backsprite? Just like Kotone's spritebox has all that stuff. {{color|00DD00|--[[User:Bulbafan|Bulbafan]] 16:32, 9 October 2009 (UTC)}}<br /> ::Done. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 06:26, 12 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::[[File:GSC Ethan Back.png]] You guys forget this -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 01:24, 14 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::That's the lot of them then. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 21:48, 14 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Family==<br /> Wait, if Kotone's grandparents run the day-care if she's an NPC, isn't the same true for Gold? If so, should it be added to the article? [[User:Zesty Cactus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#006400&quot;&gt;'''Zesty'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#3CB371&quot;&gt;'''Cactus'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 04:07, 12 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Done. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 06:26, 12 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::I guess, since theyre pretty much the same person but different gender, so im guessing yes [[User:Fudgenuggets]] 23:34, 15 October 2009<br /> :::Dude, it was added like 3 days ago. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#33CC66;&quot;&gt;'''ケンジ'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6600CC;&quot;&gt;'''の'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF00CC;&quot;&gt;'''ガール'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 06:56, 16 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Alteration to the Trivia Section ==<br /> <br /> &quot;Gold is the '''only male player character''' to have '''two different female''' counterparts.&quot;<br /> <br /> Does it really matter what the specific genders are? No. So I suggest the following change.<br /> <br /> &quot;Gold is the '''only player character''' to have '''two different opposite-gender''' counterparts.&quot;<br /> <br /> Think about it. ''[[User:Glitchipedia|This message brought to you by Glitchipedia, the falsified encyclopedia]] 03:14, 26 October 2009 (UTC)''<br /> :&lt;s&gt;May, Brendan... Emerald sprites... Dawn... Lucas... Platinum sprites...&lt;/s&gt; [[User:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B69E00&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;'''''ht'''''&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E1E1E1&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;''14''&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 03:39, 26 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == English Name Possibly Revealed ==<br /> <br /> The first English screenshots have been released by Nintendo (although I am unable to provide a direct link, you can find them at www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk), and according to the screenshots Gold's name in HGSS is '''Soul'''. [[User:Watchermark|Watchermark]] 10:55, 10 December 2009 (UTC)<br /> :EVERY screen shot in the Japanese pre-release pictures said his name was &quot;Soul&quot; as well. HOWEVER, later they officially released the name as &quot;Hibiki,&quot; not &quot;Soul&quot;... I think you can expect this to be the exact same... ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]])<br /> ::Default name in SoulSilver! DERRRR! Names as the player can't be taken as canon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#80964B&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C4E673&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 05:25, 1 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Backsprite ==<br /> <br /> Gold's backsprite is wrong!!<br /> Why does it use the beta backsprite instead of the actual one? (The beta has a red logo on the cap, the official doesn't) -[[User:Adwajr|adwajr]]<br /> :The backsprites on this article do not have a red logo on the cap. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 09:44, 19 December 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::It displays this though: [[a:File:HGSS_Ethan_Back.png]] This is his beta backsprite. -[[User:Adwajr|adwajr]]<br /> :::But that has no red logo... [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 13:22, 20 December 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::Oh, I guess it was fixed when i wasn't looking. --[[User:Adwajr|Adwajr]] 10:43, 22 December 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::No.... he just doesn't have a red logo on the back at all. He didn't in his Gen. II sprites either. Only in his artwork. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 17:00, 22 December 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Lucas pose? ==<br /> <br /> In the trivia section, it states that Gold's HGSS sprite is positioned the same as Lucas' Platinum sprite, but it isn't! There are clear differences, and if I were to say that one of Gold's sprites were in the same pose as Lucas's, it'd be the Crystal sprite, but mirrored. Could this be changed, please? --[[User:MewSoul|MewSoul]] 20:27, 1 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> :The legs and left arm are in the exact same position. That's what is meant. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 21:26, 1 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::....or are they talking about the back sprite? [[User:ShinyPikachu|&lt;small&gt;Shiny&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:ShinyPikachu|&lt;span style=&quot;background:#FFFF00&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E57E4C;&quot;&gt;'''Pika'''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 21:32, 1 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::: [[File:Spr HGSS Ethan.png]] [[File:Spr Pt Lucas.png]] I see similarities, don't you guys? Mewsoul, we're talking about Lucas' Platinum sprite. :) [[User:Tyro|Tyro]] 21:39, 1 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::I never said they weren't similar. I said they weren't the same. --[[User:MewSoul|MewSoul]] 20:54, 2 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::: Seriously??? Gold's right leg is crooked while Lucas' right leg is normally positioned, so not the same. [[User:BAC510]] 08:50 February 2, 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::: They're similar, but not enough to note. Trivia on this wiki have skewed way too stupidly specific anyway, we don't need any more of it.—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] &lt;small&gt;•&lt;/small&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 09:58, 2 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Wow BAC... &quot;There are clear differences&quot; was the beginning of the second sentence. And you're being way too picky about it. But I agree with Urutapu. We're starting to get trivia just for the sake of trivia. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 13:30, 2 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::::By &quot;clear differences&quot;, I might've just exaggerated it a bit though. Even so, the way it's written in the Trivia section made me think that they just edited Lucas's Platinum sprite to make Gold's. Could we at least say that his sprite is ''similar'' rather than ''same''? Same implies that there are no differences (besides the clothes in this case). Also, is the article locked or something? I can't edit it for some reason. --[[User:MewSoul|MewSoul]] 20:50, 2 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Yes, the article has been protected. See the section below for why. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|&lt;small&gt;(talk)&lt;/small&gt;]] 20:56, 2 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == US Name ==<br /> Serebii revealed Hibiki's US name. It's Ethan. Kotone's Lyra. --[[User:CitruX|CitruX]] 13:52, 2 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Do we have an official source? If not, it surely shouldn't matter what Serebii says. [[User:FireMeowth|FireMeowth]] 14:32, 2 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::We believed them back in the never forgotten April Fools, when Merrick revealed all DP names. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:51, 2 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::That was all the way back in April '07. We didn't have that many policies back then. And now we do, which is &quot;wait until the game release/episode airs&quot;. I feel a little suspicious that he's not giving a source, either... ▫▪''[[User:Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#d93f91;&quot;&gt;Ťïňắ&lt;/span&gt;]]'' &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#ae41d9;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#d941cf;&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 16:13, 2 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::Joe's reason has been that he's got an &quot;inside source he can't reveal&quot; because it would be, like, a breach of contract for that source. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 00:20, 3 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> His new official name is Ethan [http:http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml]<br /> :...yes. We are still going to wait until the game's release. There has been no ''official'' source given on those names, Serebii's not a good enough source. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#d93f91;&quot;&gt;Ťïňắ&lt;/span&gt;]]'' &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#ae41d9;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#d941cf;&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 18:02, 2 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Not disagreeing with official policy, but making a declaration that names aren't changed until the game is released [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Pok%C3%A9mon_Ranger:_Tracks_of_Light#Proposing_a_change_from_.22tracks.22_to_.22locus.22 while simultaneously holding a vote to change the listed name of an unreleased game] seems kinda silly.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 18:24, 2 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::That's due to a supposed translation error. This is due to speculation. They are completely different situations. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|&lt;sup style=&quot;color:#00008B;&quot;&gt;'''Maverick'''&lt;/sup&gt;]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|&lt;sub style=&quot;color:#00008B;&quot;&gt;'''Nate'''&lt;/sub&gt;]]'' 18:29, 2 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::Either way, I'd prefer to keep him as Gold. Forever. Gen II character, Gen II naming convention. We aren't moving Red to Ash or Jack, now are we? '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#80964B&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C4E673&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 23:17, 2 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::Cry me a river, Mister Editor-In-Chief. You'd have been all for moving the page if they'd named him after you. Besides, moving Gold to Ethan (or whatever) isn't comparable to moving Red to Ash or Jack. Jack wasn't the name set forth in-game, and Ash is an anime character. It's more comparable to the point Zesty Cactus makes a few bullets down. --'''[[User:Darkeiya|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF6600&quot;&gt;Darkeiya&lt;/span&gt;]]''' &lt;small&gt;''[[User talk:Darkeiya|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#00CCFF&quot;&gt;talk to me!&lt;/span&gt;]]''&lt;/small&gt; 00:02, 3 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::Yes, but those aren't his official names, right? Anyways, it don't matter to me, I all for waiting until the game is released. Serebii is usually right, but we can't take chances, and rules are rules. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 23:20, 2 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::He was never called &quot;Gold&quot; in-game, and now he is canocally named Hibiki (or Ethan, whatever) if not chosen as the player... but I'm already tired of this old discussion... - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] 23:37, 2 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::I'd personally like to move the page to &quot;Ethan&quot; or &quot;Hibiki&quot;, ''but'' no matter what, we're waiting for the games to come out to make a decision.<br /> :::::Oh, btw, TTE: If {{ga|Blue}} is &quot;Green&quot; in English HGSS, would you move the page? I know with Blue it's slightly different because he was renamed to Blue for RBY, but to move Blue to Green would be the same logic as moving Gold to Ethan/Hibiki (imho). --[[User:Zesty Cactus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#006400&quot;&gt;'''Zesty'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#3CB371&quot;&gt;'''Cactus'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 23:54, 2 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Green's his name. LeafGreen was FireRed's counterpart, not WaterBlue. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#80964B&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C4E673&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 03:56, 3 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::::I believe that, at this point in time, we are still honouring his first English canon name, which is Blue. Just as we seem to be honouring Gold's first English canon name as Gold and not Hibiki/Ethan/whoever. (on a related note, [[Vincent]] is Vincent and not Jackson, although &quot;Jackson&quot; appeared first). I'm not favouring one name over the other necessarily, I just favour consistent choices of names (first English appearance vs. most recent English appearance). --[[User:Zesty Cactus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#006400&quot;&gt;'''Zesty'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#3CB371&quot;&gt;'''Cactus'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 05:11, 3 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Uh, oh... This kind of thing happened with Pearl- No, wait, Barry. I really truly hope this doesn't turn into a move-war. Just in case though,''' I OPPOSE''' --[[User:Gen1king|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F08030;&quot;&gt;'''GE'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Gen1king|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#CC0000&quot;&gt;'''N1'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#660000&quot;&gt;'''KI'''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#330000&quot;&gt;'''NG'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:03, 28 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Green is his name in Japan. Elsewhere, it’s Blue. On this one, though, I wish we could have left it Gold. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 23:02, 4 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::May I make a suggestion? Protect both Gold (game) and Kotone (game) until the official release of the game. That way, no-one is arguing, and that can also determine whether or not Serebii.net is telling the truth about the English names for Gold and Kotone respectively.--[[User:Kangaflora|Kangaflora]] 21:49, 8 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::Whatever his name does turn out to be, if it's not Gold then all HG/SS details on this page should be moved to a new page under the new name. There is nothing there to say that the old Gold/Crystal are the same as the new pair - and if Kotone has a separate page, then Hibiki should as well. '''[[User:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; face=&quot;Verdana&quot;&gt;TheChrisD&lt;/font&gt;]]''' &lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Rants&lt;/font&gt;]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Edits&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:38, 8 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::That's a slippery slope then, D. What if I don't like Red's Generation III Design and want them to split Generation III Red from Generation I/II? Or what if I say that we don't know if Red is the same person in RGBY as he is in FRLG. We could end up with a separate page on each character from each generation at the end. In the end, I think a more simple method is required. The reason why Lyra has a different page than Kris is because Lyra was presented as a different character (both by Pokémon Sunday in Japan, and the Anime) while Ethan/Gold hasn't had that distinction made.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 22:43, 8 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Kangaflora - welcome to five weeks ago.<br /> ::::::TheChrisD - uhhh, in that case, details about Fire need to be moved off of [[Red (game)]] and onto their own page, too. 8( The name &quot;Gold&quot; for the GSC male protagonist is, afaik, as fan-based as the name &quot;Fire&quot; is for the FRLG one. &lt;span style=&quot;border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;&quot;&gt;[[User:Umeko|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF99CC;&quot;&gt;梅子&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Umeko|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#CCDDFF;&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;❄&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#CCDDFF;&quot;&gt;&lt;sub&gt;❅&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt; 22:46, 8 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::::But unlike Gold/Crystal, Red and Blue are explicitly named as such in Gens II and IV (we hope), which gives solid proof that those characters are one and the same. But, has there been any solid proof given (with the exception of PokéSpecial) that Gen II Gold and Gen IV Hibiki/Ethan/whatever are the same character? '''[[User:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; face=&quot;Verdana&quot;&gt;TheChrisD&lt;/font&gt;]]''' &lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Rants&lt;/font&gt;]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Edits&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:15, 9 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::But that still means that there'd be a different page for &quot;Red&quot; in Generation III and VI than the one in Generation I and II. After all, just because the name's the same doesn't mean they're the same character, not to mention different actions being taken in both sets of games (RGBY vs FRLG). It leads down the same slippery slope. As for Gen II Gold being the same person as Gen IV Ethan, doesn't the burden of proof lay with you to prove they are different people? I don't believe there is evidence either way (unless one takes the lack of Ethan in the Anime as evidence).--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 00:40, 9 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::Ugh, I thought this was a dead issue. If Gold's name changes, the page's name should change to the more up-to-date version. It would be his first canon name, seeing as Gold was really only his name in one version (that is, Gold version). Not just in this case, either. If Red's name were to change, I'd certainly advocate that it be moved. As for arguments pertaining to Kotone, that IS a dead issue. We decided long ago that she and Kris were to be considered different characters. That does not mean that Gold and Hibiki should be considered different characters; to assume so would be denying the obvious fact that Hibiki is a redesign. And that's the end of this rant for now... --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 02:58, 9 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::I think seeing what the manga has in store will help decide if he is a new character. I think someone said something about Lyra being Crystal's younger sister. Maybe Ethan is Gold's younger brother. We will have to wait. The games don't tell us these things. &lt;sub style=&quot;color:#00008B;&quot;&gt;'''[[User:Blake|Blake]]'''&lt;/sub&gt; &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]]&lt;/sup&gt; 05:03, 9 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Korean Name ==<br /> <br /> Because of page block I can't put it in. It's 심향 ''Simhyang''. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:16, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Image name inconsistency ==<br /> <br /> Speaking of names, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:HibikiChallenge.png several] [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:HGSS_Hibiki.png sprites] of HGSS's Gold use the name Hibiki, with Gold as a redirect. IMO, they should all use Gold, with Hibiki redirecting to them, seeing as we're keeping Gold as the article's name.<br /> <br /> Or maybe it's my OCD talking? <br /> ''[[User:Coffee|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F85888&quot;&gt;Chosen&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;span style=&quot;color:#6890F0&quot;&gt;of&lt;/span&gt; [[User talk:Coffee|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F8D030&quot;&gt;Mana&lt;/span&gt;]]'' [[User:Coffee|-]] 16:18, 9 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I think they are waiting until we get the official OK about his English name to change them to anything. &lt;sub style=&quot;color:#00008B;&quot;&gt;'''[[User:Blake|Blake]]'''&lt;/sub&gt; &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]]&lt;/sup&gt; 17:16, 10 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Info Box Color ==<br /> Can someone fix the info box color to HeartGold color like the other character's info boxes? I can't do anything about it since the page is locked so... [[User:Fudgenuggets|Fudgenuggets]] 18:17, 14 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Well, {{u|ElectAbuzzzz}} made the infobox Gold colored. He must have a reason behind it. &lt;sub style=&quot;color:#00008B;&quot;&gt;'''[[User:Blake|Blake]]'''&lt;/sub&gt; &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]]&lt;/sup&gt; 01:49, 15 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Because he's Gold. Same reason Red's is Red and not FireRed. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#80964B&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C4E673&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 04:29, 20 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> Well, what about the user who wanted to change his colors to SoulSilver because he was “Soul” in prerelease screens? --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 23:02, 4 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> :If you read his edit note, you'd have seen his reasons for doing so is that not only was he originally called Soul in prerelease screens, but also in the intro section to both HeartGold and SoulSilver, Ethan appears with a silver background, whereas Lyra appears with a gold background. Reverting your revision for the moment, until a decision from someone &quot;higher-up&quot; happens. Also don't revert one and not the other, because that made both Ethan and Lyra use gold coloured infoboxes. '''[[User:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; face=&quot;Verdana&quot;&gt;TheChrisD&lt;/font&gt;]]''' &lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Rants&lt;/font&gt;]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Edits&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 17:24, 5 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::I did read his edit sumary, otherwise, how would I even know about the “Soul” thing? And you’re right, there was more to his reasoning. A whole, what, 2 seconds of animation? But I think it is going overboard to say that his counterparts and his past don’t matter at all to this. I also don’t see the problem with Ethan and Lyra both having a golden color scheme, in fact, it makes good sense: they both serve the same role(s) in the story, and they both oppose {{ga|Silver}}( who has a silver color scheme); besides which, they are not exactly the same, Ethan uses a normal gold infobox, while Lyra uses a heartgold-color infobox. As for someone “higher-up”... TTE( who comented just before me in this discussion) fits that description, no? Obviously, his authority can be superceded by facts or board decisions, but he is still EIC. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 01:16, 6 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::The article is about the game character from the fourth generation, with only minor throwbacks to the character from the second generation, and thus the colour scheme hinted to us from the fourth generation is what matters. Anime and manga counterparts have their own pages, and the colour schemes from those characters should be evident on those pages, but not here. Plus there are only very minor shading differences between gold and heartgold, and silver and soulsilver, at least from what I can tell. As for TTE's comment, that was from before the games were released in America and his English name was revealed, so the current situation is different now. '''[[User:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; face=&quot;Verdana&quot;&gt;TheChrisD&lt;/font&gt;]]''' &lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Rants&lt;/font&gt;]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Edits&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 12:24, 6 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::So you decide &quot;lol so make him silver&quot;. Yeah. Okay sure. And then we make the RBY rival purple because of his pants. Come ''on''. Lyra goes SoulSilver, Silver goes Silver, Ethan goes Gold. Just keep the damn consistency between counterparts unless there's any real reason to have it not be consistent, like Ash, who is more associated with Pikachu's electric yellow than Red. Heck, if we get the reveal that Kris in Adventures is in Lyra's outfit, we should make a new decision whether or not to keep Lyra and Kris as separate game characters...<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; class=&quot;collapsible&quot;<br /> |- class=&quot;expandable&quot;<br /> | Image hidden<br /> |-<br /> | http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/972/startupload.png<br /> |}<br /> ::::By the way. The above is taken from the opening of HeartGold and SoulSilver. I see no &quot;default color&quot; around either of them. If anything, this implies SoulSilver color should be '''blue'''. But it's not gonna be! We draw the colors from elsewhere. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:33, 7 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::That's not the location I believe that's being referred to here. The main introduction montage to the game whenever it is booted up shows Ethan on a silver background and Lyra on a gold background towards the end before showing off the three starters. That's where I believe the original editor got the idea from to switch around their colour schemes, along with other cues from the media, such as pre-release screens with the names Soul and Heart. '''[[User:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; face=&quot;Verdana&quot;&gt;TheChrisD&lt;/font&gt;]]''' &lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Rants&lt;/font&gt;]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Edits&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 09:47, 7 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::Oh, nice to see you chimed in here even before I asked( although that is mainly because I spent 12 hours trying unsuccessfully to edit your user page. I mean, seriously, the article is about (a )character(s) from Generations II ''AND'' IV; if it was only about Ethan, Gold would have a separate page, like Lyra and Kris. The name “Ethan” had in fact already been revealed in February, though not officially, and there is [[User talk:TTEchidna/Archive Jan-Mar 10#Barry's Page|evidence in TTE’s Talk Archives]] suggesting that he had already grudgingly accepted that it would be confirmed. Besides which, the opening montage had already been seen in the Japanese versions well before, including the 2 seconds where she is on a gold background with him on a silver. Of course, anyone may change his mind, including TTE, and I didn’t know whether or not he put significant thought into that comment when he made it, or what his opinion might now be since the games’ English release, which is why I asked him( albeit late due to posting issues) to look in on this discussion. But you couldn’t claim he lacked access to information when he said that, and his new comment just affirms it all. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 02:41, 7 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Maybe I'm a little late on this, but COMPROMISE: Have Ethan's infobox be mainly gold with a silver border or something, and Lyra inverted? D: Might as well have both colors... ▫▪''[[User:Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#d93f91;&quot;&gt;Ťïňắ&lt;/span&gt;]]'' &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#ae41d9;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#d941cf;&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 16:49, 7 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> [[File:EthanLyraHGSSOp.png]]<br /> <br /> Here you go, guys. The scene from the official game opening, depicting Ethan's color as silver and Lyra's color as gold. If you think you have more authority than Game Freak themselves, then keep gold for Ethan... - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 21:26, 8 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Requesting infobox addition... ==<br /> <br /> &lt;nowiki&gt;manga=counterpart |<br /> mangacounterpart={{adv|Gold}} |<br /> roundnum=PS091|<br /> roundname=Murkrow Flies |<br /> }}&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> <br /> - ''[[User:Coffee|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F85888&quot;&gt;Chosen&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;span style=&quot;color:#6890F0&quot;&gt;of&lt;/span&gt; [[User talk:Coffee|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F8D030&quot;&gt;Mana&lt;/span&gt;]]'' [[User:Coffee|-]] 16:12, 22 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == name meaning ==<br /> japanese name means echo while english name Means &quot;solid, enduring&quot; in Hebrew... could we add that... [[User:Badwolf1234|Badwolf1234]] 03:08, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> :The Japanese name meaning is there already. I'm not sure about the English name in relation to Hebrew, since the game doesn't have an official Hebrew version. &lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;—&lt;small&gt;♥&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;b&gt;[[User:Jello|&lt;span style=&quot;color:orange&quot;&gt;Jel&lt;/span&gt;]][[User Talk:Jello|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#90a8e0;&quot;&gt;lo&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/b&gt; 03:12, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> :acttually the name ethan means solid enduring in hebrew.. not the hebrew name because there is no herew version of the game....[[User:Badwolf1234|Badwolf1234]] 03:25, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::His English name isn't going there yet, thus we have no reason to add in the English name's ''meaning'' yet. &lt;span style=&quot;border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;&quot;&gt;[[User:Umeko|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF99CC;&quot;&gt;梅子&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Umeko|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#CCDDFF;&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;❄&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#CCDDFF;&quot;&gt;&lt;sub&gt;❅&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt; 03:28, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::We don't add the literal meanings of unless they're significant, and that generally only applies to the Asian names. For the Western names we generally only put the pun (i.e. Ethan sounds like &quot;echo,&quot; we'd put that and not &quot;solid&quot;).—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] &lt;small&gt;•&lt;/small&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 19:13, 9 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::This is possibly a coincidence but Ethan is also one of the most accepted names of the harp player in King David's court in the Bible. Should this be noted?--[[User:Skystar|Skystar]] 14:34, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::I just thought &quot;Ethan&quot; related to &quot;ethos&quot;, a Greek word that can mean &quot;state of being&quot; or &quot;soul.&quot;--[[User:RiverAura|&lt;font color=&quot;#00CCFF&quot;&gt;River&lt;/font&gt;]][[User_Talk:RiverAura|&lt;font color=&quot;#00FFCC&quot;&gt;Aura&lt;/font&gt;]] 23:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::Except Ethan ''doesn’t'' sound like echo, at all really. They are completely dissimilar phonetically. Ethan has a long E, while echo has a short e, which are very different sounds in English. The h performs completely different functions in the two different digraphs. None of the phonemes are significantly similar. Clearly, the Biblical reference to a musician is more significant than the orthographic similarity, since all his other names are related to sounds or musical instruments, as is Lyra. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 23:02, 4 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The page name should be Gold (game). ==<br /> <br /> At least, he should be referred to as Gold in mentions of Generation II. He's only Ethan as the NPC in 4th Gen. Everywhere else, he's Gold. [[User:Emyunoxious|Emyunoxious]] 21:48, 30 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> *That'd be like calling Blue &quot;Gary&quot; or, hell, &quot;Douche&quot; or something. After all, he's only called Blue as the NPC in 2nd Gen. You see how that logic just doesn't work? [[User:Reign|Reign]] 21:50, 30 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Can you guys not see the extensive debate we had over this? ''On the same talk page''? He's staying as Ethan because it's the only official name we have for him now- makes sense to call him that. NPC names take priority over common fan ones for pick-your-poison-type names. That's all. We're not going back to Gold. &gt;___&gt; ▫▪''[[User:Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#d93f91;&quot;&gt;Ťïňắ&lt;/span&gt;]]'' &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#ae41d9;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Tin<br /> a|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#d941cf;&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:02, 30 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::&quot;You guys&quot;? I was saying that we ''shouldn't'' move it.[[User:Reign|Reign]] 22:18, 30 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Optional names? ==<br /> <br /> Can anyone find the optional names for Ethan &amp; Lyra? [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 05:01, 31 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Uhm... what optional names? You don't get to choose anything about their names, unlike in, for example, DPPt. If you are male, it's Lyra, if you are female, it's Ethan. Simple as that.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] 23:49, 4 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::I think they mean the optional names that you get when you select your player's name and put in nothing... there's always a list of optional names in the game data. Lucas and Dawn have it, I think Lyra has her Japanese names up.. I'll look around to see if I can find the English ones though. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#d93f91;&quot;&gt;Ťïňắ&lt;/span&gt;]]'' &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#ae41d9;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#d941cf;&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 23:56, 4 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Older brother? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone have a scan of that part of that pamplhet? [http://idisk.me.com/celebi23/Public/PKMN/1998%2002%20-%20Computer%20and%20Videogames.png This one] says he has a younger one but it seems pretty wrong. I don't recall any part of the beta placing Ethan in a city holding a laptop (unless they mean the Pokegear). Oh, and off topic, but Ethan says the Marill thing listed on Lyra's page, right? I'm adding it. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 16:31, 26 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Yes, well that also states that you can use a skateboard, and that Ampharos could be related to Pikachu. Doesn't seem like a very reliable source for saying he has a brother. &lt;sub style=&quot;color:#00008B;&quot;&gt;'''[[User:Blake|Blake]]'''&lt;/sub&gt; &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]]&lt;/sup&gt; 17:08, 26 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::The scan of that pamphlet can be found [http://web.me.com/celebi23/Spaceworld_97_Pokemon/Spaceworld_1997_Guide_Book.html here]. That article that Lovely Rose linked has a bunch of mistranslations in it; the trivia about the older brother was added by me, translated directly from the Spaceworld 1997 pamphlet. &lt;span style=&quot;border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;&quot;&gt;[[User:Umeko|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF99CC;&quot;&gt;梅子&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Umeko|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF99CC;&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;❀&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF99CC;&quot;&gt;&lt;sub&gt;✿&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt; 17:22, 26 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Locations!! ==<br /> I'm not sure I looked well enough, but where is the section saying where you run into your childhood friend throughout the game and where they are after you beat the game. I need to find Ethan about the Shiny Leaf thing. --[[User:Lustre|Lustre]] 01:41, 1 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I think he's in the top floor of Elm's lab. Go up the outside stairs. If someone could confirm that, then add it to the page. &lt;sc&gt;[[User:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2D4B98;&quot;&gt;Werdnae&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sc&gt; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009000;&quot;&gt;(talk)&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 10:05, 1 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Actually, I spent a while looking for him, and maybe it's at a certain time or not, but he was in his house playing with Marill in his room. --[[User:Lustre|Lustre]] 12:12, 1 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::To go into more detail, he calls about random things, such as wanting you to bring a Poliwag to Route 40. I have no clue what this is about. I did post this same idea on the Route 40 discussion page to see if anybody knows about it, but responses there are slower than a slug on weed. [[User:KurosakisTwin|KurosakisTwin]] 01:19, 22 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::Replied. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 06:04, 22 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Gold==<br /> &quot;He had no official name in Generation II, but was unofficially known by fans as Gold (ゴールド Gold).&quot;<br /> He was called Gold in the istruction booklet that came with the Gold Version.&lt;font color=&quot;Purple&quot;&gt;'''Bug Catcher Wade'''&lt;/font&gt;http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/0/00/190MS.png 02:23, 22 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> :He was called Silver in the counterpart version. I think it's best that we leave his name as Ethan. [[User:KurosakisTwin|KurosakisTwin]] 02:38, 22 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == What the... ==<br /> <br /> &quot;Despite, Lyra being called Soul, Ethan was the only one who appeared in-game in demos with the name Soul.&quot;<br /> <br /> This makes no sense.--'''[[User:Immewnity|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#88AADD&quot;&gt;''immewnity''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Immewnity|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#627DB7&quot;&gt;the&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#335577&quot;&gt;mew&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 19:42, 26 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> :This reminds me of the prerelease hype from like, August, when we used to call Lyra &quot;Soul&quot;, but Ethan was &quot;Soul&quot; in preview footage and Lyra was &quot;Heart&quot; in the same footage. It's stupid irrelevant trivia though, so I removed it. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#006400&quot;&gt;'''Zesty'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#3CB371&quot;&gt;'''Cactus'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:05, 26 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Trust me, it's like this with any set of player characters before their actual names are revealed. I mean, given what's known, it doesn't matter just how much of the fandom call the Generation V female player character &quot;Black&quot; and how much call her &quot;White&quot;. In the end, odds are everyone'll be calling her {{red link|Iris (game)|Iris}}, given how that's the most likely name for the character at this point (that character's anime counterpart bears that name). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:08, 26 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> :That comma after despite is also DEFINITELY wrong. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 13:03, 27 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::That comma is what I was mostly going after. And, SP252, Iris isn't the anime counterpart. It's another character completely.--'''[[User:Immewnity|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#88AADD&quot;&gt;''immewnity''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Immewnity|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#627DB7&quot;&gt;the&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#335577&quot;&gt;mew&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 14:30, 27 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == About his name... ==<br /> <br /> The name origin kinda just bothers me..It seems a bit TOO obscure. I know it's minor and not that relevant but are we sure it has nothing to do with the actual word &quot;echo&quot; itself? I doubt it's a coincidence they're spelled similarly. [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 04:17, 4 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> :Echo isn't similar enough. To quote the hidden text in the name origin section:<br /> ::''&quot;Echo&quot; is unlikely, even downright nonsensical. They have 2 letters in common, but those letters make completely different sounds between the 2 words. In fact, the words don’t sound the least bit alike. Phonetically, the most you can say is they each have 2 syllables, stress on the first. And those of you who find the name somehow distasteful *cough*TTE*cough*, try to remember that it actually the real name of many people. Regardless of whether those people ever even wanted to share a name with a generation of brats or a Nintendo character. :-(''<br /> --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:37, 16 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == About his name 2 - Electric Boogooloo ==<br /> <br /> The name origin is so, well, not appropriate for his context considering the meaning of Ethan. I share my name with this guy so I know what it means. Ethan, most commonly, means Gift to the Island (whatever that's supposed to mean), Strong/Enduring, and some other source I saw a while ago stated it meant ''Full of Minerals'' and was used in farming and mining families. I think all of these can apply to him considering the fact that most people thought and still think that every region is an island. He's a Pokémon trainer which are usually strong considering a normal day is them running around catching the creators of the planet/universe/human sapience/death, and Giratina who is Satan. And the ''Full of Minerals'' meaning makes complete sense when he's the male protagonist of ''Gold'' and ''Silver'', AND those were the first games to include &quot;Farming&quot; (if you even want to call it that) in any way or form. So take your pick, I think any of these are more likely to be the name than something straight from the broble. --[[User:Nuclearxpotato|Nuclearxpotato]] ([[User talk:Nuclearxpotato|talk]]) 22:17, 13 March 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Trivia consistency ==<br /> <br /> Does anyone know if Ethan will call the player on {{p|Marill}} evolving into {{p|Azumarill}}, like with Lyra? --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 20:54, 12 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == About his name 3: Greek Antiquity ==<br /> Would &quot;Aether&quot; be another possible name origin? Lyra is derived from &quot;lyre&quot;. Both &quot;Aether&quot; and &quot;lyre&quot; were elements of classical Greek antiquity, mythical and real respectively. {{unsigned|Lmoamemesxd}}<br /> <br /> == Age ==<br /> As shown in the page history, I pointed out an interview in Nintendo Dream vol 201 that when discussing about the designs of the Hilbert and Hilda, Ken Sugimore hinted the protagonists of the games before Gen V being at an age range of 10-11 (not counting Brendan and May) when talking about Masuda telling them to make Hilbert and Hilda older than them during the development of Black and White. That, I believe should be enough confirmation, and like another user said in another discussion, it would be insincere to omit hints of the character's age if that's all we have. [[User:Inkster|Inkster]] ([[User talk:Inkster|talk]]) 20:02, 16 April 2022 (UTC)<br /> :Here, I agree. It's pretentious to ignore a source if it is the best piece of information there is for now.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#CC0000&quot;&gt;Rocket&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#666666&quot;&gt;Grunt&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 20:12, 16 April 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ethan and Greninja ==<br /> <br /> Can we talk about how Ethan and Greninja have the exact same height and weight? That would be an interesting point of trivia.[[User:HenryWong122|HenryWong122]] ([[User talk:HenryWong122|talk]]) 01:54, 30 August 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Move ==<br /> <br /> I suggest moving this page from &quot;Ethan (game)&quot; to simply &quot;[[Ethan]]&quot; (which is currently a short disambiguation page).<br /> <br /> Related discussion: [[Bulbapedia talk:Editor's Hub#About the page titles like Red (game), Blue (game), etc.]] --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 02:42, 18 February 2024 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Why is he so hot ==<br /> <br /> Ken Sugimori explain yourself—[[User:Tsovoa Levone|Tsovoa Levone]] ([[User talk:Tsovoa Levone|talk]]) 10:27, 4 January 2026 (UTC)</div>

Tsovoa Levone https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Type:_Null_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=4088872 2024-08-26T15:04:03Z

<p>Tsovoa Levone: /* What if it was supposed to be released a generation earlier for Kalos? */</p> <hr /> <div>==Russian name==<br /> Could someone in the staff please add this line?<br /> <br /> |ru=Тип: Ноль ''Tip: Nol'''|rumeaning=Literally Type: Zero<br /> <br /> --[[User:Raltseye|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF6464&quot;&gt;R&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#11BB11&quot;&gt;alts&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6464FF&quot;&gt;eye&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 15:00, 6 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> :Also could soneone add that it's the first Pokémon to have a different Spanish and Italian name unless UB-01 is revealed to be a Pokémon. --[[User:Raltseye|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF6464&quot;&gt;R&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#11BB11&quot;&gt;alts&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6464FF&quot;&gt;eye&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 15:01, 6 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> ::It's &quot;Tipo Zero&quot; in Italian, literally &quot;type zero&quot; (yes, with no &quot;:&quot;). --[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 16:31, 6 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> :::Yes, and as far as I manage in all those language (except Spanish) it means Type: Zero. So could someone please add this? --[[User:Raltseye|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF6464&quot;&gt;R&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#11BB11&quot;&gt;alts&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6464FF&quot;&gt;eye&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 20:28, 6 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> ::::Like you said, not until we find out if there are other Pokemon that follow this trend in Gen VII. [[User:Starscream|Starscream]] ([[User talk:Starscream|talk]]) 13:39, 7 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Appearance==<br /> The mask has a collar that is exactly like the ring on Arceus's waist. Since this is a genetically manufactured Pokémon and the mask is a limiter, it's like they're saying that religion limits Science. --[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 16:31, 6 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> :I think that's a bit of a stretch. Bulbapedia is for verifiable facts, not inferences and interpretations. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:47, 6 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> ::I agree, the second part is more like a fun talk. The fact is actually the collar part. May be a coincidence of course. --[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 16:59, 6 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> :::In addition the horn-thing, looks like a mix between the tao trio's wings.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]11:42, 7 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> ::::You mean the head-hatchet thing? I thought it did look like a Zekrom wing. Also, the collar spikes have {{p|Zygarde|green hexagons}} on them.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] ([[User talk:Pokencyclopedia|talk]]) 19:41, 8 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> ::While I agree Tano's comment is too speculatory, I do think there is ample evidence and reference to note that Type:Null has a relationship with Arceus. Between the collar, the line on the pokemon site that says it was an attempt to create an artificial pokemon to replicate the power of a mythical pokemon, the fact that it's evolution has an ability that's essentially a duplicate of Arceus's, and said ability is called RKS systems (RKS - Arrkayus - Arceus), I think it's more then clear that there is an intentional link. There are pokemon with origins listed on their pages that have much less evidence. <br /> <br /> ::In light of the recent news regarding it's evolution and how that ties into this that I outlined above, does anybody have any issues with it being added?[[User:Jabberwockxeno|Jabberwockxeno]] ([[User talk:Jabberwockxeno|talk]]) 02:08, 17 October 2016 (UTC)<br /> :::We can still wait until the game comes out and we have all the lore available to us, so we know exactly how to frame it in a non-speculative way. There's no harm in waiting. Bulbapedia doesn't have a deadline. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:44, 17 October 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Genderless==<br /> As shown in the Japanese trailer, it it a genderless Pokemon. [[User:Mettie7|Mettie7]] ([[User talk:Mettie7|talk]]) 16:32, 6 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Yet another Pokémon with a name that consists of two words... ==<br /> <br /> ...after {{p|Mr. Mime}}, {{p|Mime Jr.}} and the recently-announced {{p|Tapu Koko}}. However, I think it's the first Pokémon to have a colon in its name. - '''''&lt;font face=&quot;Verdana&quot;&gt;[[User:LDEJRuff|LDE]][[User talk:LDEJRuff|JRuff]]'''''&lt;/font&gt; 18:11, 6 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Catch Rates ==<br /> <br /> How do game-players traditionally determine the numerical catch-rate for a Pokemon? Is this done by just throwing regular Pokeballs at a Pokemon while it is at full health and measuring how many attempts it takes to capture it, or is it by hacking the game? [[User:Avert|Avert]] ([[User talk:Avert|talk]]) 20:14, 6 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> :It's done by consulting the game's source code, yes. On a separate note, your signature goes at the end of your post, not the beginning. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:51, 7 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Name Trivia ==<br /> Isn't this the first Pokémon to not keep its English name in the Spanish and Italian localizations? [[User:Technickal|Technickal]] ([[User talk:Technickal|talk]]) 15:42, 7 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> :Yes it is but it will be added once all the Gen VII Pokémon have been revealed incase any more follows this trend. --[[User:Raltseye|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF6464&quot;&gt;R&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#11BB11&quot;&gt;alts&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6464FF&quot;&gt;eye&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 17:55, 7 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == I think this should be added ==<br /> It is currently not known to evolve into or from any other Pokémon. [[User:Lokki|Lokki]] ([[User talk:Lokki|talk]]) 18:17, 7 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> :Nope, none of our prerelease Pokémon articles have that clause, because we have no way of knowing whether they have no evolutions or if their evolved forms just haven't been revealed yet. If Type: Null doesn't evolve, that clause will be added ''after'' the games come out. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:26, 7 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> ::And what's {{p|Oricorio}} then? [[User:Lokki|Lokki]] ([[User talk:Lokki|talk]]) 18:40, 7 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> :::And also {{p|Solgaleo}}, {{p|Lunala}} and {{p|Magearna}} [[User:Lokki|Lokki]] ([[User talk:Lokki|talk]]) 18:42, 7 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> ::::The latter three are Legendaries/Mythicals, which as a rule don't evolve, but yes, it doesn't belong on Oricorio. As a side note, please use link templates. Don't casually link to redirects. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:01, 7 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> Bulbapedia strives to have most accurate, least speculative information available; not to be the first to state something or to follow the fandom's theories. Right now, there's very little we can say that won't delve into speculative territory. That goes not just for this page, but for many other pages as well. Regardless of how 'probable' or 'obvious' something is, we'd rather wait for confirmation or more information in general. Please keep this in mind as the games' release approaches. [[User:Crystal Talian|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#9F00C5&quot;&gt;Crystal&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF00FF&quot;&gt;Talian&lt;/span&gt;]] 06:01, 17 October 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Type: null; and Sillicon Valley==<br /> Null is a programmer term meaning.... well, &quot;null&quot;, nothing, indicating a glitch of some kind (like with MissingNo.).<br /> And then, this glitch evolves into Sil-vally, like in Sillicon Valley, place that's well known for Hi-tech stuff, computers etc.<br /> <br /> So, both are hi-tech synthetic Pokemon, one is named after software, second one after hardware...<br /> <br /> Makes sense.... kind of xD {{unsigned|Khamira}}<br /> <br /> == Griffin ==<br /> <br /> Both Type: Null and Silvally appear to have some inspiration from chimeras, but there is also a striking resemblance to griffins: both have eagle-like talons as front feet and have a vaguely feline back legs and body. The blade on the heads of both Pokemon resembles an eagle's head in profile. Silvally's feline ears resemble that of a griffin's, and when contrasted against its dark body, its head resembles that of a Bald Eagle. Its mouth also appears to end in a beak.<br /> <br /> --[[User:Geektreecko|Geektreecko]] ([[User talk:Geektreecko|talk]]) 20:10, 7 November 2016 (UTC)<br /> :A pretty defining characteristic of griffins is wings. Neither Pokemon has wings. I would also say the fish tail is a pretty drastic divergence from griffins. I think chimera is really the primary inspiration, and griffins just happen to have some common points. (And a parallel is not the same thing as a design influence.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:02, 7 November 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == STAB ==<br /> <br /> Should Type: Null get italicized STABs on its learnset/move pages since it evolves into a Pokémon that can change types? Right now there's none on its learnset, and the move pages aren't consistent at all with whether or not it gets italicized. The only precedent I can think of for this kind of thing is Darumaka, who has Zen Headbutt italicized in its [[Darumaka (Pokémon)/Generation VI learnset#By tutoring|learnset]] (but isn't italicized on [[Zen Headbutt#By Move Tutor|the page itself]])--[[User:Cold|&lt;font color=&quot;teal&quot;&gt;Cold&lt;/font&gt;]] &lt;small&gt;([[User talk:Cold|&lt;font color=&quot;turquoise&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/font&gt;]])&lt;/small&gt; 01:52, 6 December 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Branch Chief F ==<br /> <br /> In the basement, there are notes from a &quot;Branch Chief F&quot; talking about how to be the best manager you can be, and noting at one point how this king among men created a restraint device that was stolen by his supervisor's family.<br /> <br /> Seems to be talking about Faba inventing the restraint devices here.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 19:14, 15 December 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Material of Type: Null's Mask? ==<br /> <br /> In the biology section of the article, Type: Null's mask is described as being made of wood. Is this confirmed anywhere or is it just speculation? I don't recall seeing anything in the game or pre-release material describing the mask as wood. [[User:Skyarrow|Skyarrow]] ([[User talk:Skyarrow|talk]]) 21:05, 27 December 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Spoiler Warning ==<br /> <br /> I think there seriously needs to be some sort of spoiler warning for the bio section of Type: Null. I'm playing through the game at the moment, and I'm trying to be as spoiler free as possible. I remember seeing this Pokémon in one of the major trailers, and I wanted to learn about its biology and what it exactly is. An entire third paragraph included inside that section containing easily visible '''massive''' spoilers was really disappointing. --[[User:MatrVincent|MatrVincent]] ([[User talk:MatrVincent|talk]]) 20:29, 28 December 2016 (UTC)<br /> :IMO, you're absolutely right. I mean, there's one for (I won't say), so Type: Null should too. &lt;nowiki&gt;{{spoilers}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 21:01, 28 December 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Type: Null's Legendary Status ==<br /> <br /> Edit: I was just about to post this new section as-is when I noticed the edits in the history page. I figure we should probably take the discussion here instead. If I could add my own 2 cents, I disagree with Pumpkinking0192 in that this is not a confirmation of TN's Legendary status. TN already fits most qualifications for being a legendary, so this just serves as extra proof. Besides, it makes zero sense to have one step in an evolutionary chain be Legendary while the other isn't. Legendary families have never really been a thing before Gen VII, but the Cosmog line should set enough of a precedent for this decision. Heck, even Phione gets a spot on the Mythicals page, and that guy is ''heavily'' disputed, even more than TN. I personally feel that TN should get at least ''some'' kind of mention about its Legendary status. It doesn't have to be a full admission, but it should at the very minimum be something like what we did with UBs, where we at least acknowledged that their status was disputed. Original post below.<br /> <br /> <br /> With [https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/add-a-shiny-silvally-to-your-ranks/| today's GameStop event announcement, Silvally has now been officially confirmed as a Legendary Pokemon.] Silvally's entry page has been updated to reflect this change, but now I'm wondering if we should do the same for Type: Null. I'm personally leaning more towards yes, but I'd like to see what others have to say first. --[[User:Troof|Troof]] ([[User talk:Troof|talk]]) 20:13, 16 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> :I don't think you can really say it doesn't make any sense for an evolutionary line to be only partially Legendary. These kinds of &quot;rules&quot; can easily change, the only real criteria for Legendary/Mythical status should be explicit confirmation of some kind (which Phione has received in the past despite being contradicted, and Type: Null currently doesn't have afaik).--[[User:Cold|&lt;font color=&quot;teal&quot;&gt;Cold&lt;/font&gt;]] &lt;small&gt;([[User talk:Cold|&lt;font color=&quot;turquoise&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/font&gt;]])&lt;/small&gt; 20:40, 16 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> ::Makes sense to me. I guess we'll just have to wait until the Pokemon Company clarifies this for us. On a slightly off-topic note, when exactly were Cosmog/Cosmoem explicitly confirmed as Legendaries? Not calling you out or anything, but I'm trying real hard to recall a moment where they were referred to as Legendaries and I'm coming up blank. Was it actually in-game or was it in some kind of announcement like with Silvally? I'm not sure if I missed something, and now I'm really curious. --[[User:Troof|Troof]] ([[User talk:Troof|talk]]) 20:58, 16 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> :::It was in-game; the Rotom Dex says, ''&quot;Zzzrt! You registered a Legendary Pokémon! That's, well, legendary! Let'zzz check it out!&quot;'' when Cosmog and Cosmoem are registered in the Pokédex. For the [[guardian deities]], Type: Null, Silvally, and the [[Ultra Beast]]s, it gives a unique phrase that doesn't indicate their status, which is why we've had months (and months and months) of talk page discussions on what to do with them. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:05, 16 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> ::::Prior to this Silvally event, all acknowledged Legendary Pokemon were [[a:File:Ga-Olé Symbol Legendary.png|marked as such]] in Ga-Ole. Silvally is the only current one who wasn't, but it did still at least have some special marking: &quot;[[a:File:Ga-Olé Symbol Super Strong.png|Super Strong]]&quot;. Type:Null, however, has no special marking whatsoever. This treatment for Null means it still warrants an abundance of caution. The attribution for Silvally is somewhat of a surprise (personally, anyway), but at the moment, there's not reason to jump the gun on Null. Conflicting/ambiguous information should be clarified officially, not by our assumptions. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:40, 16 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> :::::...I don't even know where to begin with how inane this whole argument is. People here denied that the tapu were legendary, and then they were confirmed to be legendary. People here denied that Silvally was a legendary, and then it was confirmed to be a legendary. People here deny that the Ultra Beasts are legendaries, and one day somebody in Game Freak or TPCI will call them legendary. All of these Pokémon and Type: Null are legendaries. They're treated as such in the coding, not just in the battle facilities, but in their Pokédex entry backgrounds and in the GTS's legendary/mythical filter as well. This argument has been going on for ELEVEN months. If USUM has a National Dex, which we'll probably be able to find out whether that's the case in three weeks given the inevitable leaks from some lucky sap who got their hands on a copy thanks to a broken street date, the other battle facility-legal legendaries are going to have the same backgrounds as these guys, and if the background colour grouping indicators are going to be in any future Pokédexes then they're sure as hell going to share those backgrounds, and of course people here will find a way to argue that some future legendaries aren't legendaries in the event that &quot;they were never explicitly stated to be legendaries&quot; in-game.. They'll have 3 perfect IVs if that trend continues, their catch rates will be abysmal, and they'll be available in limited amounts for a single save file. [[User:Azureprism|Azureprism]] ([[User talk:Azureprism|talk]]) 00:08, 17 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> ::::::All that is/was assumption. It means nothing if your guess was proved correct, it's still a guess. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:15, 17 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> ::::::: Azureprism: Bulbapedia strives to be as accurate as possible. What seems common sense to you, and to the majority, needs to be confirmed first. We can't say that Type: Null is legendary quite yet, there's not enough evidence for the staff to accept it yet. And the color indicators don't mean anything. We need text evidence without any degree of doubt to confirm anything. We can't use past precedents, either, because we know how that worked in Sun and Moon. <br /> <br /> ::::::: This isn't a site for speculation; we do absolutely need &quot;explicit&quot; statements. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 00:20, 17 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Azureprism, nobody denied the Tapu or Ultra Beasts were Legendary. Instead, there was no convincing evidence that they were, so it was simply unconfirmed as to whether or not they were. The fact that the Tapu were later revealed to be Legendary does not mean it was incorrect to wait for that confirmation. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 01:02, 17 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::I know we should just wait for official confirmation. But people always bring up the GTS filter as confirmation. It specifically state &quot;Legendary and Mythical Pokémon&quot;. It is really strange for them to use that specific phase and include pokemon that are not legendary or mythical. In previous discussions in legendary pokemon talk page, we somehow come to a conclusion that since type: null, tapus and UBs are filtered under that list, they are EITHER legendary OR mythical. and since they should not be mythical, they are legendary? But we know in japan the filter is just referred to as &quot;Special Pokémon&quot;. So, a final decision is still not made.<br /> <br /> :::::::::but still, the filter had to mean something for type:null and the ultra beasts. what exactly make them so special from normal pokemon? -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] ([[User talk:Pokeant|talk]]) 10:17, 17 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::In Japanese, the filter apparently is for 「幻や　伝説ポケモンをほしがっている　人を」 (people looking for Mythical or Legendary Pokémon). The filter specifying &quot;Special Pokémon&quot; is in Generation VI only. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 10:41, 17 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::Unfortunately this whole Wiki as of late has been relying too much on external sources for the information and not enough on what the players can determine all on their own. So let me give you the clearest answer in the form of a trick question; what can Type: Null do that Phione can't? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] ([[User talk:Shiramu Kuromu|talk]]) 18:43, 17 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::As a rule, I dislike when people want you to read their minds. IMO, if you want to make a point, you can make it without trying to make people guess at your own personal logic. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:39, 17 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::::It's not up to players to decide if Pokemon are legendary or not. If Gamefreak says a Pokemon is legendary then it is. If they say a Pokemon is not legendary then it's not. If they don't say anything then we don't say anything either. It's pretty simple. <br /> <br /> ::::::::::::: If any given player says that Pikachu is a legendary, would that make it a legendary? In their mind, perhaps, but this is a professional wiki that deals with only official information, especially with such discrete categories such as &quot;legendary&quot; --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 02:23, 18 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> (Reset indent) The argument most people made is always about the gts filter. &lt;br /&gt;Fact 1: it is filtered away by the gts, so we know it is NOT a normal pokemon, or at least we know it is special.&lt;br /&gt; Fact 2: the filter is named legendary and mythical pokemon.&lt;br /&gt;So the question is, are WE the ones creating new labels now for type null, since we do not want to classify it as normal pokemon, yet we do not want to classify it as legendary. same for UBs. Ultra Beast/ is just a group name (not a classification), just like every other legendary group name. -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] ([[User talk:Pokeant|talk]]) 09:51, 18 October 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;(add on) For know, it is best to have a dispute section like phione's page, where we provide both sides of the argument for type: null being legendary or not, or have the section in the legendary pokemon page first before a final decision is made, or official statement is made. -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] ([[User talk:Pokeant|talk]]) 09:58, 18 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> :Well, I don't think it's as much &quot;disputed&quot; as it is &quot;not confirmed&quot;. Not too many arguments can be made against it that I know of that's not just assumptions about what it means to be a Legendary Pokemon.<br /> <br /> :Phione is a special case because discussion about Phione's mythical status has been going for probably 10 years now. Even almost a year after Sun and Moon, Type:Null's legendary status isn't exactly a hot topic. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 12:28, 18 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Phione is a special case because it has had official confirmation both for and against its Mythical status. Type: Null (and the UBs, and Silvally prior to its confirmation, and the guardian deities prior to theirs) is different because they have had no official confirmation one way or the other, just insinuations. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:59, 18 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> :::Well, that depends on what's considered an &quot;official confirmation&quot;. But it's really not worth arguing about, because either way, Phione is a special case and we don't need a disputed section for really anything else unless something has the same or similar scenario.<br /> <br /> :::Anyways, pokeant, we don't need to create new labels for type:null only. It's not a part of any group. It's not, by Bulbapedia standards, legendary, so we wouldn't need to mark it as disputed or anything. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 00:20, 19 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Type ==<br /> <br /> Instead of calling it Normal-type, how about we call it &quot;Elemental-type&quot; since Null can be any type it wants? [[User:Nintenchris5963|Nintenchris5963]] ([[User talk:Nintenchris5963|talk]]) 13:32, 18 December 2019 (UTC)<br /> :No. That's not how we work. It's Normal type because that's the type its base form is.--[[User:Force Fire|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#00A1E9&quot;&gt;'''F'''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#59C2F1&quot;&gt;orce&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Force Fire|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#BF004F&quot;&gt;'''F'''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#D5598C&quot;&gt;ire&lt;/span&gt;]] 13:46, 18 December 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == What if it was supposed to be released a generation earlier for Kalos? ==<br /> <br /> The beast of gevaudan!!!!!!!!!!!-[[User:Tsovoa Levone|Tsovoa Levone]] ([[User talk:Tsovoa Levone|talk]]) 15:04, 26 August 2024 (UTC)</div>

Tsovoa Levone https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Type:_Null_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=4088871 2024-08-26T15:03:47Z

<p>Tsovoa Levone: /* What if it was supposed to be released a generation earlier for Kalos? */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>==Russian name==<br /> Could someone in the staff please add this line?<br /> <br /> |ru=Тип: Ноль ''Tip: Nol'''|rumeaning=Literally Type: Zero<br /> <br /> --[[User:Raltseye|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF6464&quot;&gt;R&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#11BB11&quot;&gt;alts&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6464FF&quot;&gt;eye&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 15:00, 6 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> :Also could soneone add that it's the first Pokémon to have a different Spanish and Italian name unless UB-01 is revealed to be a Pokémon. --[[User:Raltseye|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF6464&quot;&gt;R&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#11BB11&quot;&gt;alts&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6464FF&quot;&gt;eye&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 15:01, 6 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> ::It's &quot;Tipo Zero&quot; in Italian, literally &quot;type zero&quot; (yes, with no &quot;:&quot;). --[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 16:31, 6 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> :::Yes, and as far as I manage in all those language (except Spanish) it means Type: Zero. So could someone please add this? --[[User:Raltseye|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF6464&quot;&gt;R&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#11BB11&quot;&gt;alts&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6464FF&quot;&gt;eye&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 20:28, 6 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> ::::Like you said, not until we find out if there are other Pokemon that follow this trend in Gen VII. [[User:Starscream|Starscream]] ([[User talk:Starscream|talk]]) 13:39, 7 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Appearance==<br /> The mask has a collar that is exactly like the ring on Arceus's waist. Since this is a genetically manufactured Pokémon and the mask is a limiter, it's like they're saying that religion limits Science. --[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 16:31, 6 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> :I think that's a bit of a stretch. Bulbapedia is for verifiable facts, not inferences and interpretations. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:47, 6 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> ::I agree, the second part is more like a fun talk. The fact is actually the collar part. May be a coincidence of course. --[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 16:59, 6 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> :::In addition the horn-thing, looks like a mix between the tao trio's wings.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]11:42, 7 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> ::::You mean the head-hatchet thing? I thought it did look like a Zekrom wing. Also, the collar spikes have {{p|Zygarde|green hexagons}} on them.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] ([[User talk:Pokencyclopedia|talk]]) 19:41, 8 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> ::While I agree Tano's comment is too speculatory, I do think there is ample evidence and reference to note that Type:Null has a relationship with Arceus. Between the collar, the line on the pokemon site that says it was an attempt to create an artificial pokemon to replicate the power of a mythical pokemon, the fact that it's evolution has an ability that's essentially a duplicate of Arceus's, and said ability is called RKS systems (RKS - Arrkayus - Arceus), I think it's more then clear that there is an intentional link. There are pokemon with origins listed on their pages that have much less evidence. <br /> <br /> ::In light of the recent news regarding it's evolution and how that ties into this that I outlined above, does anybody have any issues with it being added?[[User:Jabberwockxeno|Jabberwockxeno]] ([[User talk:Jabberwockxeno|talk]]) 02:08, 17 October 2016 (UTC)<br /> :::We can still wait until the game comes out and we have all the lore available to us, so we know exactly how to frame it in a non-speculative way. There's no harm in waiting. Bulbapedia doesn't have a deadline. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:44, 17 October 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Genderless==<br /> As shown in the Japanese trailer, it it a genderless Pokemon. [[User:Mettie7|Mettie7]] ([[User talk:Mettie7|talk]]) 16:32, 6 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Yet another Pokémon with a name that consists of two words... ==<br /> <br /> ...after {{p|Mr. Mime}}, {{p|Mime Jr.}} and the recently-announced {{p|Tapu Koko}}. However, I think it's the first Pokémon to have a colon in its name. - '''''&lt;font face=&quot;Verdana&quot;&gt;[[User:LDEJRuff|LDE]][[User talk:LDEJRuff|JRuff]]'''''&lt;/font&gt; 18:11, 6 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Catch Rates ==<br /> <br /> How do game-players traditionally determine the numerical catch-rate for a Pokemon? Is this done by just throwing regular Pokeballs at a Pokemon while it is at full health and measuring how many attempts it takes to capture it, or is it by hacking the game? [[User:Avert|Avert]] ([[User talk:Avert|talk]]) 20:14, 6 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> :It's done by consulting the game's source code, yes. On a separate note, your signature goes at the end of your post, not the beginning. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:51, 7 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Name Trivia ==<br /> Isn't this the first Pokémon to not keep its English name in the Spanish and Italian localizations? [[User:Technickal|Technickal]] ([[User talk:Technickal|talk]]) 15:42, 7 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> :Yes it is but it will be added once all the Gen VII Pokémon have been revealed incase any more follows this trend. --[[User:Raltseye|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF6464&quot;&gt;R&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#11BB11&quot;&gt;alts&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6464FF&quot;&gt;eye&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 17:55, 7 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == I think this should be added ==<br /> It is currently not known to evolve into or from any other Pokémon. [[User:Lokki|Lokki]] ([[User talk:Lokki|talk]]) 18:17, 7 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> :Nope, none of our prerelease Pokémon articles have that clause, because we have no way of knowing whether they have no evolutions or if their evolved forms just haven't been revealed yet. If Type: Null doesn't evolve, that clause will be added ''after'' the games come out. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:26, 7 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> ::And what's {{p|Oricorio}} then? [[User:Lokki|Lokki]] ([[User talk:Lokki|talk]]) 18:40, 7 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> :::And also {{p|Solgaleo}}, {{p|Lunala}} and {{p|Magearna}} [[User:Lokki|Lokki]] ([[User talk:Lokki|talk]]) 18:42, 7 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> ::::The latter three are Legendaries/Mythicals, which as a rule don't evolve, but yes, it doesn't belong on Oricorio. As a side note, please use link templates. Don't casually link to redirects. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:01, 7 September 2016 (UTC)<br /> Bulbapedia strives to have most accurate, least speculative information available; not to be the first to state something or to follow the fandom's theories. Right now, there's very little we can say that won't delve into speculative territory. That goes not just for this page, but for many other pages as well. Regardless of how 'probable' or 'obvious' something is, we'd rather wait for confirmation or more information in general. Please keep this in mind as the games' release approaches. [[User:Crystal Talian|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#9F00C5&quot;&gt;Crystal&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF00FF&quot;&gt;Talian&lt;/span&gt;]] 06:01, 17 October 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Type: null; and Sillicon Valley==<br /> Null is a programmer term meaning.... well, &quot;null&quot;, nothing, indicating a glitch of some kind (like with MissingNo.).<br /> And then, this glitch evolves into Sil-vally, like in Sillicon Valley, place that's well known for Hi-tech stuff, computers etc.<br /> <br /> So, both are hi-tech synthetic Pokemon, one is named after software, second one after hardware...<br /> <br /> Makes sense.... kind of xD {{unsigned|Khamira}}<br /> <br /> == Griffin ==<br /> <br /> Both Type: Null and Silvally appear to have some inspiration from chimeras, but there is also a striking resemblance to griffins: both have eagle-like talons as front feet and have a vaguely feline back legs and body. The blade on the heads of both Pokemon resembles an eagle's head in profile. Silvally's feline ears resemble that of a griffin's, and when contrasted against its dark body, its head resembles that of a Bald Eagle. Its mouth also appears to end in a beak.<br /> <br /> --[[User:Geektreecko|Geektreecko]] ([[User talk:Geektreecko|talk]]) 20:10, 7 November 2016 (UTC)<br /> :A pretty defining characteristic of griffins is wings. Neither Pokemon has wings. I would also say the fish tail is a pretty drastic divergence from griffins. I think chimera is really the primary inspiration, and griffins just happen to have some common points. (And a parallel is not the same thing as a design influence.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:02, 7 November 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == STAB ==<br /> <br /> Should Type: Null get italicized STABs on its learnset/move pages since it evolves into a Pokémon that can change types? Right now there's none on its learnset, and the move pages aren't consistent at all with whether or not it gets italicized. The only precedent I can think of for this kind of thing is Darumaka, who has Zen Headbutt italicized in its [[Darumaka (Pokémon)/Generation VI learnset#By tutoring|learnset]] (but isn't italicized on [[Zen Headbutt#By Move Tutor|the page itself]])--[[User:Cold|&lt;font color=&quot;teal&quot;&gt;Cold&lt;/font&gt;]] &lt;small&gt;([[User talk:Cold|&lt;font color=&quot;turquoise&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/font&gt;]])&lt;/small&gt; 01:52, 6 December 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Branch Chief F ==<br /> <br /> In the basement, there are notes from a &quot;Branch Chief F&quot; talking about how to be the best manager you can be, and noting at one point how this king among men created a restraint device that was stolen by his supervisor's family.<br /> <br /> Seems to be talking about Faba inventing the restraint devices here.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 19:14, 15 December 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Material of Type: Null's Mask? ==<br /> <br /> In the biology section of the article, Type: Null's mask is described as being made of wood. Is this confirmed anywhere or is it just speculation? I don't recall seeing anything in the game or pre-release material describing the mask as wood. [[User:Skyarrow|Skyarrow]] ([[User talk:Skyarrow|talk]]) 21:05, 27 December 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Spoiler Warning ==<br /> <br /> I think there seriously needs to be some sort of spoiler warning for the bio section of Type: Null. I'm playing through the game at the moment, and I'm trying to be as spoiler free as possible. I remember seeing this Pokémon in one of the major trailers, and I wanted to learn about its biology and what it exactly is. An entire third paragraph included inside that section containing easily visible '''massive''' spoilers was really disappointing. --[[User:MatrVincent|MatrVincent]] ([[User talk:MatrVincent|talk]]) 20:29, 28 December 2016 (UTC)<br /> :IMO, you're absolutely right. I mean, there's one for (I won't say), so Type: Null should too. &lt;nowiki&gt;{{spoilers}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 21:01, 28 December 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Type: Null's Legendary Status ==<br /> <br /> Edit: I was just about to post this new section as-is when I noticed the edits in the history page. I figure we should probably take the discussion here instead. If I could add my own 2 cents, I disagree with Pumpkinking0192 in that this is not a confirmation of TN's Legendary status. TN already fits most qualifications for being a legendary, so this just serves as extra proof. Besides, it makes zero sense to have one step in an evolutionary chain be Legendary while the other isn't. Legendary families have never really been a thing before Gen VII, but the Cosmog line should set enough of a precedent for this decision. Heck, even Phione gets a spot on the Mythicals page, and that guy is ''heavily'' disputed, even more than TN. I personally feel that TN should get at least ''some'' kind of mention about its Legendary status. It doesn't have to be a full admission, but it should at the very minimum be something like what we did with UBs, where we at least acknowledged that their status was disputed. Original post below.<br /> <br /> <br /> With [https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/add-a-shiny-silvally-to-your-ranks/| today's GameStop event announcement, Silvally has now been officially confirmed as a Legendary Pokemon.] Silvally's entry page has been updated to reflect this change, but now I'm wondering if we should do the same for Type: Null. I'm personally leaning more towards yes, but I'd like to see what others have to say first. --[[User:Troof|Troof]] ([[User talk:Troof|talk]]) 20:13, 16 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> :I don't think you can really say it doesn't make any sense for an evolutionary line to be only partially Legendary. These kinds of &quot;rules&quot; can easily change, the only real criteria for Legendary/Mythical status should be explicit confirmation of some kind (which Phione has received in the past despite being contradicted, and Type: Null currently doesn't have afaik).--[[User:Cold|&lt;font color=&quot;teal&quot;&gt;Cold&lt;/font&gt;]] &lt;small&gt;([[User talk:Cold|&lt;font color=&quot;turquoise&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/font&gt;]])&lt;/small&gt; 20:40, 16 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> ::Makes sense to me. I guess we'll just have to wait until the Pokemon Company clarifies this for us. On a slightly off-topic note, when exactly were Cosmog/Cosmoem explicitly confirmed as Legendaries? Not calling you out or anything, but I'm trying real hard to recall a moment where they were referred to as Legendaries and I'm coming up blank. Was it actually in-game or was it in some kind of announcement like with Silvally? I'm not sure if I missed something, and now I'm really curious. --[[User:Troof|Troof]] ([[User talk:Troof|talk]]) 20:58, 16 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> :::It was in-game; the Rotom Dex says, ''&quot;Zzzrt! You registered a Legendary Pokémon! That's, well, legendary! Let'zzz check it out!&quot;'' when Cosmog and Cosmoem are registered in the Pokédex. For the [[guardian deities]], Type: Null, Silvally, and the [[Ultra Beast]]s, it gives a unique phrase that doesn't indicate their status, which is why we've had months (and months and months) of talk page discussions on what to do with them. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:05, 16 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> ::::Prior to this Silvally event, all acknowledged Legendary Pokemon were [[a:File:Ga-Olé Symbol Legendary.png|marked as such]] in Ga-Ole. Silvally is the only current one who wasn't, but it did still at least have some special marking: &quot;[[a:File:Ga-Olé Symbol Super Strong.png|Super Strong]]&quot;. Type:Null, however, has no special marking whatsoever. This treatment for Null means it still warrants an abundance of caution. The attribution for Silvally is somewhat of a surprise (personally, anyway), but at the moment, there's not reason to jump the gun on Null. Conflicting/ambiguous information should be clarified officially, not by our assumptions. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:40, 16 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> :::::...I don't even know where to begin with how inane this whole argument is. People here denied that the tapu were legendary, and then they were confirmed to be legendary. People here denied that Silvally was a legendary, and then it was confirmed to be a legendary. People here deny that the Ultra Beasts are legendaries, and one day somebody in Game Freak or TPCI will call them legendary. All of these Pokémon and Type: Null are legendaries. They're treated as such in the coding, not just in the battle facilities, but in their Pokédex entry backgrounds and in the GTS's legendary/mythical filter as well. This argument has been going on for ELEVEN months. If USUM has a National Dex, which we'll probably be able to find out whether that's the case in three weeks given the inevitable leaks from some lucky sap who got their hands on a copy thanks to a broken street date, the other battle facility-legal legendaries are going to have the same backgrounds as these guys, and if the background colour grouping indicators are going to be in any future Pokédexes then they're sure as hell going to share those backgrounds, and of course people here will find a way to argue that some future legendaries aren't legendaries in the event that &quot;they were never explicitly stated to be legendaries&quot; in-game.. They'll have 3 perfect IVs if that trend continues, their catch rates will be abysmal, and they'll be available in limited amounts for a single save file. [[User:Azureprism|Azureprism]] ([[User talk:Azureprism|talk]]) 00:08, 17 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> ::::::All that is/was assumption. It means nothing if your guess was proved correct, it's still a guess. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:15, 17 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> ::::::: Azureprism: Bulbapedia strives to be as accurate as possible. What seems common sense to you, and to the majority, needs to be confirmed first. We can't say that Type: Null is legendary quite yet, there's not enough evidence for the staff to accept it yet. And the color indicators don't mean anything. We need text evidence without any degree of doubt to confirm anything. We can't use past precedents, either, because we know how that worked in Sun and Moon. <br /> <br /> ::::::: This isn't a site for speculation; we do absolutely need &quot;explicit&quot; statements. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 00:20, 17 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Azureprism, nobody denied the Tapu or Ultra Beasts were Legendary. Instead, there was no convincing evidence that they were, so it was simply unconfirmed as to whether or not they were. The fact that the Tapu were later revealed to be Legendary does not mean it was incorrect to wait for that confirmation. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 01:02, 17 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::I know we should just wait for official confirmation. But people always bring up the GTS filter as confirmation. It specifically state &quot;Legendary and Mythical Pokémon&quot;. It is really strange for them to use that specific phase and include pokemon that are not legendary or mythical. In previous discussions in legendary pokemon talk page, we somehow come to a conclusion that since type: null, tapus and UBs are filtered under that list, they are EITHER legendary OR mythical. and since they should not be mythical, they are legendary? But we know in japan the filter is just referred to as &quot;Special Pokémon&quot;. So, a final decision is still not made.<br /> <br /> :::::::::but still, the filter had to mean something for type:null and the ultra beasts. what exactly make them so special from normal pokemon? -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] ([[User talk:Pokeant|talk]]) 10:17, 17 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::In Japanese, the filter apparently is for 「幻や　伝説ポケモンをほしがっている　人を」 (people looking for Mythical or Legendary Pokémon). The filter specifying &quot;Special Pokémon&quot; is in Generation VI only. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 10:41, 17 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::Unfortunately this whole Wiki as of late has been relying too much on external sources for the information and not enough on what the players can determine all on their own. So let me give you the clearest answer in the form of a trick question; what can Type: Null do that Phione can't? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] ([[User talk:Shiramu Kuromu|talk]]) 18:43, 17 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::As a rule, I dislike when people want you to read their minds. IMO, if you want to make a point, you can make it without trying to make people guess at your own personal logic. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:39, 17 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::::It's not up to players to decide if Pokemon are legendary or not. If Gamefreak says a Pokemon is legendary then it is. If they say a Pokemon is not legendary then it's not. If they don't say anything then we don't say anything either. It's pretty simple. <br /> <br /> ::::::::::::: If any given player says that Pikachu is a legendary, would that make it a legendary? In their mind, perhaps, but this is a professional wiki that deals with only official information, especially with such discrete categories such as &quot;legendary&quot; --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 02:23, 18 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> (Reset indent) The argument most people made is always about the gts filter. &lt;br /&gt;Fact 1: it is filtered away by the gts, so we know it is NOT a normal pokemon, or at least we know it is special.&lt;br /&gt; Fact 2: the filter is named legendary and mythical pokemon.&lt;br /&gt;So the question is, are WE the ones creating new labels now for type null, since we do not want to classify it as normal pokemon, yet we do not want to classify it as legendary. same for UBs. Ultra Beast/ is just a group name (not a classification), just like every other legendary group name. -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] ([[User talk:Pokeant|talk]]) 09:51, 18 October 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;(add on) For know, it is best to have a dispute section like phione's page, where we provide both sides of the argument for type: null being legendary or not, or have the section in the legendary pokemon page first before a final decision is made, or official statement is made. -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] ([[User talk:Pokeant|talk]]) 09:58, 18 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> :Well, I don't think it's as much &quot;disputed&quot; as it is &quot;not confirmed&quot;. Not too many arguments can be made against it that I know of that's not just assumptions about what it means to be a Legendary Pokemon.<br /> <br /> :Phione is a special case because discussion about Phione's mythical status has been going for probably 10 years now. Even almost a year after Sun and Moon, Type:Null's legendary status isn't exactly a hot topic. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 12:28, 18 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Phione is a special case because it has had official confirmation both for and against its Mythical status. Type: Null (and the UBs, and Silvally prior to its confirmation, and the guardian deities prior to theirs) is different because they have had no official confirmation one way or the other, just insinuations. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:59, 18 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> :::Well, that depends on what's considered an &quot;official confirmation&quot;. But it's really not worth arguing about, because either way, Phione is a special case and we don't need a disputed section for really anything else unless something has the same or similar scenario.<br /> <br /> :::Anyways, pokeant, we don't need to create new labels for type:null only. It's not a part of any group. It's not, by Bulbapedia standards, legendary, so we wouldn't need to mark it as disputed or anything. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 00:20, 19 October 2017 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Type ==<br /> <br /> Instead of calling it Normal-type, how about we call it &quot;Elemental-type&quot; since Null can be any type it wants? [[User:Nintenchris5963|Nintenchris5963]] ([[User talk:Nintenchris5963|talk]]) 13:32, 18 December 2019 (UTC)<br /> :No. That's not how we work. It's Normal type because that's the type its base form is.--[[User:Force Fire|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#00A1E9&quot;&gt;'''F'''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#59C2F1&quot;&gt;orce&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Force Fire|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#BF004F&quot;&gt;'''F'''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#D5598C&quot;&gt;ire&lt;/span&gt;]] 13:46, 18 December 2019 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == What if it was supposed to be released a generation earlier for Kalos? ==<br /> <br /> The beast of gevaudan!!!!!!!!!!!</div>

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