Bulbapedia - User contributions [en]

Talk:Shiny Leaf

2010-04-12T08:18:49Z

Tsanth: Anecdotal findings regarding rarity.

===Major Change===
I have updated everything to match the guide book for HG/SS. When merging natures together, the original list did not have full route lists for each nature within the respective family, so the nature with the most routes attached to it was the one I went with. The guide does not touch on Kanto routes at all, so the lists are most likely still not full. Shining Leaf A/B/C/D/E are each found on specific routes, but because I do not have the Kanto information and only Leaf A/B/C information for Johto, I left it for later. When the guide comes out we should make it a little more detailed to include which specific leaf can be found on which set of routes.([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 03:35, 12 October 2009 (UTC))
:The footnotes as they are now are not fully correct. Footnote 2 claims that Fire-, Water-, Ground- and Rock-types can't get the Leaf on that specific route. However, I just got the Shining Leaf on route 33, which is marked with footnote 2, with my modest Quilava. [[User:Gwannyn|Gwannyn]] 07:34, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
::Hmm... that's odd... that footnote comes directly from two different official guides though :/ I guess we're going to need to test both of those footnotes with different possibilities and see if the guides were wrong then. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 07:48, 30 March 2010 (UTC))
:::I can vouch for this as well. Specifically serious sudowoodo on route 33. I do see what's in common with those types though. They're all weak to water (well, except the water types, don't know what's up with them). And that's a rainy route. Perhaps the guides messed up in relation to that, as sudowoodo here gave me an unhappy face a few times before dancing for the leaf. - [[User:Trainer Hunter|Trainer Hunter]] 11:18, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
::::I think the Water-type is listed because Water-types get a special reaction in the rain too, just not a negative one. It would seem however, that the writers of the guides either got unlucky on those routes, or were too lazy to test it thoroughly. [[User:Gwannyn|Gwannyn]] 17:22, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

== Leaf Crown is an accessory? ==

How does the Leaf Crown function as an accessory if there are no contests in HGSS? I don't have the games so I may have missed something but this puzzled me.--[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 09:05, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
:Accessories are available in HGSS to dress up Pokemon and take pictures of them in the underground path. I believe that's how it is, at least... it might be in the department store, I'm going by memory here, but there is somewhere in the games to dress up your Pokemon. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 10:03, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
::Goldenrod Underground has the dressup place. Also, I have my doubts about it being an accessory... since I got the leaf crown like five times and even when I dress up a Pokémon that's earned it, it's not showing up. Is my game on crack, or is it a lie that it's an accessory...? ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 15:53, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

== Aquisition Question ==
Are you required to fight wild Pokémon in the grass of a route if you want to find a Shiny Leaf there, or can you just use Repels and run around until you get it? --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 02:26, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
:You can just use repels and avoid wild encounters- so long as you're in the tall grass, it should work. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 03:04, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

== What do the letters mean? ==

What do the letters beside the routes mean. I assume they mean that a Pokémon with one of those natures will get that specific leaf from that specific route and can only get one leaf from that route.] This needs to be stated in the article (if indeed that is what it indicates). If I am wrong could someone please explain the true meaning. Thanking you in advance.--[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 06:41, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:Leaf 'A' is the leaf on the farthest left and leaf 'E' is the one that is displayed farthest right on the Trainer Memo. The letter is set per route... if someone would like to put that into better words and add it... be my guest haha... ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 08:11, 9 April 2010 (UTC))
::So you're saying that my Hasty Chikorita would need to get one Leaf off each of Routes 44, 39, 26, 18, and 11 (in any order)? I can't get five Leaves off of Route 44? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:17, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:::They should all be set, so not all from one route but one from each of the listed routes (I'm 99% sure about it). If someone would like to test multiples from one route, then we can make 100% sure. Also, it has been discovered that the order the leaves are picked in has an affect on how easy/hard they are to find... that may be something interesting to add to the article if we can get some people to research the orders :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 08:33, 9 April 2010 (UTC))

== Possible for a careful fire, rock, or ground type to get the leaf crown? ==

If you have to get 1 shiny leaf from each letter, how would a careful fire, rock, or ground type get the shiny leaf for letter A? The only route in the letter A has the 2 above it, making it seem impossible. Is this how it works, or can a Pokemon get one shiny leaf for each route in the letter E? ~~[[User_talk:AuraGaurdian|Aura]][[Special:Contributions/AuraGaurdian|Gaurdian]] 16:07, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

== Rarity ==

Are these really supposed to be rare to get? I just found out about this and pulled out my Quiet HM slave Bibarel and got all five leaves within around 20 minutes. I got them at these routes, in this order: Route 33, Route 36, Route 45, Route 7, and Route 8. -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 08:18, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

User talk:TTEchidna/Archive Jul-Aug 08

2008-07-15T23:56:30Z

Tsanth: /* Rules Clarification */

{{:User:TTEchidna/Archive}}
{{:User:TTEchidna/Trades}}

Okay, so, yet again, the page is cleaned, and thank goodness, man. Thank goodness. Way too big.

Anyone wanna do the Ash, Dawn, and Brock voices still?

Please?

== Voices ==

(Yay, first post) Sorry dude, only can do Riolu and Pikachu. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:19 1 Jul 2008'''''

== TCG Trainer Card Infobox ==

Hi there - once again I've been thinking about something to do with TCG pages, this time Trainer cards, and I think the Trainer infobox needs a refit. [[Template talk:TrainercardInfobox|Your input would be greatly appreciated on this matter]]. Cheers, [[User:Double Dash|Cipher]] 20:29, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

==New Project==
Hey, can I start a project on the Pokémon manga?--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 23:02, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:...we don't have a project on the manga yet?! No wonder why PS barely gets updates! If you know what to do, go for it... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:08, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
::Ok Thank You.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 23:09, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

== Prototype names ==

Is there a list of these prototype Pokémon names? I'm curious to know what they all are without having to search through every Pokémon article. Also, is this in regards to only Generation I Pokémon? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:35, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:I know there's some prototype names for Gen II, but most definitely for Gen I. Gen III and IV, possibly, but their development was far more under wraps...
:Maybe we could ask Doug Dinsdale himself? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:27, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

==Image Help==
Can you fix this because it's all choppyish--->[[Image:Project Manga logo.PNG]]--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 05:22, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
:What... did you do to it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:26, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
::Maybe.......--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 06:03, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
:::No, seriously, what the hell happened to it? Were you screwing around in MSPaint?! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:04, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
::::I don't know! My dang computer messed it up!--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 06:10, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Hmm. What're the original images? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:11, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::They are somewhere on my PC--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 06:13, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::ImageShack them. I'll see what I can do. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:15, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Can I do Photobucket instead?--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 06:21, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Here ya go --[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 06:36, 3 July 2008 (UTC)http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff194/CoolPikachu/Project_PokC3A9dex_logo.png and http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff194/CoolPikachu/Manga_stub.png
::::::::::I'll get to work on them tomorrow, then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:53, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::Ok Thank You So much Night.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 08:11, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
:Done. Here we go. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:31, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
::Ok Thank You [[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 22:31, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

== Form names ==

I recently purchaced the ''Pokémon Pokédex: Official Pocket Version'' guide and it lists the form names for the Pokémon with the differences in their forms. For {{p|Cherrim}} the forms are "'''Overcast form'''" and "'''Sunshine form'''" and {{p|Castform}} has listed: "'''Normal form'''", "'''Sun form'''", "'''Rain form'''" and "'''Hail form'''". They use no "e" at the end of form, however Deoxys' Formes do have an "e". I went ahead and changed Cherrim, but wanted to know what you thought about Castform since you had said the names that are currently listed came from the TCG. Other Pokémon like {{p|Shellos}}/{{p|Gastrodon}} and {{p|Burmy}}/{{p|Wormadam}} are the same as we have. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:10, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
:Copyright date on the book? If it's later than 2005, it supersedes {{TCG|EX Delta Species}}, the last set released that has Castform's four forms. I'd assume that, having Gen IV Pokémon in it, it's at least an '07 copyright. The problem lies with {{TCG|Legends Awakened}}, which comes in August... I'd imagine that the game ought to supersede the TCG by a long shot, though... Aren't Deoxys's forms named without the e on their cards? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:30, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

::Not sure about the Deoxys cards, but the book says published in Japan in December, 2006. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:12, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

== Please, since ur on... ==

[[User:TTEchidna/AshPoké|Party changes]] [[User:TTEchidna/DawnPoké|await them]]. It is time to update. I enjoy them o so much--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 23:13, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
:Bit rude much?[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 23:16, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
::Nah. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:32, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

That's cuz I changed wording, and thanks--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 23:36, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
:I saw. And really, while I'm at it, why don't I flaunt my adminship and make the Misty page... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:48, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

::You should ^_^ [[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 23:48, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
:::There's been rumblings of pages like this being disallowed in the future. I hope not, though. I have some GSDS predictions to upload once the ban's lifted, and other people's essays are always fun to read, too. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:54, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Well, if they are, I do intend to make a mainspace page without the snide comments detailing the parties at any given point... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:01, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::I actually prefer the snide comments. I also like how you used the word "Oak" as a verb. I haven't read material this funny in a long time. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:28, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::Been a verb in this fandom for longer than I've been online. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:44, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

== {{u|Dmonster}} ==

Vandalised {{p|Munchlax}} and then removed it. Don't know whether or not he should be blocked, but he's probably worth keeping an eye on. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 07:59, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
:Hm. If he does it again, definitely. Sigh. He uses the LTs, but he seems not to care about freaking ''punctuation and grammar''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:09, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

== EP012 ==

In the trivia section of the page it says that Ash bites "Team Rocket's Tail" not Meowth's Tail. I would fix it but I don't want to screw it up. [[User:Rucario64]]

:Also in EP032 the same problem appears saying Team Rocet instead of Meowth [[User:Rucario64]]
::Someone used the {{template|TRM}} template instead of the {{template|MTR}} one. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:19, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Sorry, I'd just like to ask you why can you edit you user page? I know you have edited it because I see Ash's Gliscor, which is only debutted just yesterday.
I am quite a new user and I don't know why I can't edit my user page. It says I don't have any permission. Anyway, Thanks a lot for answering. Please ignore my poor English.[[User:Dong|Dong]] 14:29, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

:He can edit his because he is administration. They are the only ones who are allowed. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 14:34, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

::(edit conflict)Only admins can edit user space right now. The general public doesn't have permission until something can be worked out to keep servers from crashing and people only joining Bulbapedia just to create user pages. Plus, admins only edit them on an "as needed" basis. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:37, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you , I finally get it. Thanks a lot.[[User:Dong|Dong]] 14:42, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
:Yep. But regular users will be able to edit their userpages again ''very soon''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:28, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

== 3 Things ==

1. Great Job w/ Misty's Team page

2. Has CavalierShipping been updated w/ possible DP085 hints?

3. I believe Movie 11's Nurse Joy is the first to wear glasses!

--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:05, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

:Misty's Team page is hilarious XD - [[User:SpontaneousCombusken|spontaneous'''Combusken''']] 17:18, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
::#Thanks
::#No idea.
::#I don't remember any other Joys with glasses.
::And I blame Togepi for its hilarity. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:27, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

:::Misty would have been better off if she had boxed her Togepi like I always do. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:53, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
::::No, if she ''used'' it. She just CARRIED it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:56, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Watch the new Movie 11 trailer for Nurse Joy with glasses, after u watch Swinub join and Gligar evolve.--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:31, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

== DP085/CavalierShipping ==

Are there any hints u can find? I ain't great at interpreting from Japanese version. If u cud find nething, and put it on the CavalierShipping article, that'd be great!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:24, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
:Haven't watched it yet. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:27, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

== Umm... ==

Well... Umm... I just would like to know something. Why can't I edit my own user page? I'm justing asking you because I couldn't think of someone else that could answer this. --'''[[User:Netto-kun|Netto-kun]]''' [[User talk:Netto-kun|Talk]] 23:05, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
:Jeez, man, where've you been the past three months? Userpages cannot be edited by users because of the abuse of them that occurred until we took the ability away in March. Since we've got a new server now, that's more powerful, we should be giving them back... soon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:07, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
::Simple. He's busy working out the kinks in the good ol' Portuguese wiki (Spelled it as Portugeese...). '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''23:17 4 Jul 2008'''''
:::Really? Well unkink it! And if there's a war between Iberian Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese, go on and tell us. We need to know if EP itself needs to just force everyone to learn Latin. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:20, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Actually, I've been busy with things like school and doing my work as translator in Brazilian Pokémon fansubs. It's been sometime that I don't log in here. And by the way, what are those "voices" you're talking about up there? --'''[[User:Netto-kun|Netto-kun]]''' [[User talk:Netto-kun|Talk]] 23:38, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::He needs voice actors for BulbaCast...I think...'''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''23:48 4 Jul 2008'''''
::::::Can you explain me better? I may want to join the cast. I always wanted to be a voice actor! '''[[User:Netto-kun|Netto-kun]]''' [[User talk:Netto-kun|Talk]] 23:59, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Not BulbaCast, but for English episode previews to put on YouTube before the dub episodes air. Currently I'm... well, ten weeks behind. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:44, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::::May I join the cast? --'''[[User:Netto-kun|Netto-kun]]''' [[User talk:Netto-kun|Talk]] 13:59, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

== Uhh.... ==

How do I make a sig? I want to know... [[User:ShinyPachirisu|SP]] 23:43, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
:Same coding that the rest of the wiki uses. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:39, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

== On Bhalf of Kenji-girl ==

can u get rid of the BWS on Dr. Yung's page without screwing the page up?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 00:06, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
:The what? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:36, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
::Big White Space. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''00:40 5 Jul 2008'''''
:::Uhm. Easy? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:43, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

== Generation III moveset pages ==

I don't really know how the coding for those works, so I can't figure out how to get the Generation III moveset pages for {{p|Mudkip}} and its evolutions out of the [[Special:Uncategorizedpages|uncategorized pages]]. Is there a way to get them out before someone starts claiming they licked (or should I say [[Lick (move)|liek]]ed) the Mudkip Generation III moveset page? Thanks.
:You started off the levelup moveset with {{template|movelisttm}}, which ''doesn't'' autocategorize the page. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:07, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

== Deoxys (movie) ==

Should there be an article with the name, "Deoxys (movie)"? I guess it'll be a bit confusing because there are two Deoxys in the movie, so maybe you can do "Deoxys (movie; purple crystal)" and "Deoxys (movie; green crystal)"? Or maybe you could merge them together and just do "Deoxys (movie) and write about both of them... I would make the article myself, but I don't know how I should do it. - [[User:SpontaneousCombusken|spontaneous'''Combusken''']] 23:53, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
:Beats me, too, I never saw DD. I'd say one article's enough for the two, though. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:13, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
::Okay, I made the article, but I didn't feel like writing everything. So for now, we have a ''very very short'' article. - [[User:SpontaneousCombusken|spontaneous'''Combusken''']] 02:53, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

== Testing... ==

{{#ifexpr: {{#expr: {{#time: H|10:00:00 AM GMT July 10, 2008}} - {{#time: H}}}} < 0|{{#expr: {{#time: d|10:00:00 AM GMT July 10, 2008}} - {{#time: d}} - 1}}|{{#expr: {{#time: d|10:00:00 AM GMT July 10, 2008}} - {{#time: d}}}}}} days, {{#ifexpr: {{#expr: {{#time: i|10:00:00 AM GMT July 10, 2008}} - {{#time: i}}}} < 0|{{#ifexpr: {{#expr: {{#time: H|10:00:00 AM GMT July 10, 2008}} - {{#time: H}}}} < 0|{{#expr: {{#time: H|10:00:00 AM GMT July 10, 2008}} - {{#time: H}} + 23}}|{{#expr: {{#time: H|10:00:00 AM GMT July 10, 2008}} - {{#time: H}} - 1}}}}|{{#ifexpr: {{#expr: {{#time: H|10:00:00 AM GMT July 10, 2008}} - {{#time: H}}}} < 0|{{#expr: {{#time: H|10:00:00 AM GMT July 10, 2008}} - {{#time: H}} + 24}}|{{#expr: {{#time: H|10:00:00 AM GMT July 10, 2008}} - {{#time: H}}}}}}}} hours, {{#ifexpr: {{#expr: {{#time: i|10:00:00 AM GMT July 10, 2008}} - {{#time: i}}}} < 0|{{#expr: {{#time: i|10:00:00 AM GMT July 10, 2008}} - {{#time: i}} + 60}}|{{#expr: {{#time: i|10:00:00 AM GMT July 10, 2008}} - {{#time: i}}}}}} minutes, {{#ifexpr: {{#expr: {{#time: s|10:00:00 AM GMT July 10, 2008}} - {{#time: s}}}} < 0|{{#expr: {{#time: s|10:00:00 AM GMT July 10, 2008}} - {{#time: s}} + 60}}|{{#expr: {{#time: s|10:00:00 AM GMT July 10, 2008}} - {{#time: s}}}}}} seconds

{{#time: m}}/{{#time: d}}/{{#time: Y}} at {{#time: H}}:{{#time: i}}:{{#time: s}}

{{#time: m|10:00:00 AM GMT July 10, 2008}}/{{#time: d|10:00:00 AM GMT July 10, 2008}}/{{#time: Y|10:00:00 AM GMT July 10, 2008}} at {{#time: H|10:00:00 AM GMT July 10, 2008}}:{{#time: i|10:00:00 AM GMT July 10, 2008}}:{{#time: s|10:00:00 AM GMT July 10, 2008}}

==Manga==
hey should the manga stubs be replaced with the project manga notice?--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 02:50, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
:When they're not a stub. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:58, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
::So if it says {{template|mangastub}} I can't replace it but if it doesn't say it then I can put {{template|Project Manga notice}}?--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 06:24, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
:::No. If the article itself is a full-fledged article, such as the article on {{special|Red}} or something, then it can get the manga notice. If it's still missing some info, leave the stub template. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:27, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Ohh ok thank you and night.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 06:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

== Voices (2) ==

Can I join the cast you're talking about? I always felt like becaming a voice actor. '''[[User:Netto-kun|Netto-kun]]''' [[User talk:Netto-kun|Talk]] 17:37, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
:How good of an Ash, Brock, or even, maybe, James, voice can you do? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:02, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

== Abilities ==

You know how some Pokémon had abilities in Generation III, but gained a Generation IV ability? For example, Pinsir had Intimidate and Hyper Cutter. In Gen IV it gained Mold reaker and lost one of the others. For Pokémon witgh similar situations, shouldn't it be mentioned on the pages of the Pokémon and ability?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:36, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
:I don't remember Pinsir having Intimidate... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:38, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

My Mistake, but... there had to be many Pokémon that suffered what I desribed, so should we mention abilities Pokémon lost?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:45, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
:But no one lost an ability. They only gained them. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:57, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry then, it just seemed like they did Sorry for any inconvenience--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:58, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nope, none did. If they gained them, they didn't change upon Pal Parking anyway. They'd have to evolve. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:04, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

== Egg moves ==

While it's technically not hurting anything, isn't it a little misleading to have "moves learned through breeding" sections on the articles of Pokémon that do not hatch from eggs? I think these sections should only be found on the pages of the lowest form of a Pokémon family. With the exception of the Pokémon that had gained new prevos but can also hatch from eggs themselves. Just a thought. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:14, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well, then it'd be a pain in the ass to see what Charizard could have. You'd have to cross over two pages to plan out its moveset if you wanted to use it competitively. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:13, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

::You're right. That's why I wasn't ''really'' for abolishing it. I just assumed that most people would look at Charmander first when planning a Charizard. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:17, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
:::May be the case for a Raichu or something, since those don't learn any moves after evolving, but ideally the Pokémon's movesets should list what THEY AS A SPECIES learn at every level, with no "previous" bullcrap. Remember, they've had it so you could get level 22 Electabuzz (which don't evolve from Elekid until 30) and level 8 Pidgeotto (when they don't evolve from Pidgey until 18). Start should be the lowest level. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:22, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I always thought it weird that they would list low-level moves for Pokémon that could never be caught at those levels. Legendaries especially. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 02:09, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well, know how you couldn't get Giratina until level 70 in DP? And in Platinum, what can you find it at? 47. Wouldn't it suck if you had to wait more than 20 levels to learn even one move? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:11, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

::Ah... I forgot about that. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 02:33, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Nevar forget. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:41, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

::::Yes sir... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:17, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

== [[Template:Badge]] ==

Just created and tested, so you can go ahead and protect it. Or whatever you want, really.

Also, thanks for getting the DragonBreath links on Ash's Charizard. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 05:17, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
:Just saw and protected. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:18, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
::If you think the template is unnecessary (gleaned from your comment in the edit summary), you can go ahead and delete it. Like I said, do whatever you want, really. I just don't like linking to redirects when unnecessary (keeping in mind the anti-spoiler measures you mentioned). --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 05:20, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
:::<nowiki>*shrug*</nowiki> Well, the articles on many Gym Leaders and Elite Four members don't even use the {{template|t}} template... So if you wanna start using that template... fix that stuff, too. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:22, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

== Trade ==

I have made an offer.
Reaper Cloth ---> ???
[[User:LugiaFan|LugiaRules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]] 17:57, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well, what do you need? Electirizer? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:10, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
::I will see. [[User:LugiaFan|LugiaRules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]] 17:01, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Okay, well, you'll need to come to a decision quickly... we gotta schedule a time to trade, and since I have to work supremely long hours most days... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:20, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
::::OK I want a DeepSeaScale. [[User:LugiaFan|LugiaRules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]] 21:40, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

== Intense Fight name ==

We have an issue: there's a name conflict going on for {{TCG|Intense Fight in the Destroyed Sky}} which SP252 informed me of earlier today. Apparently, Sunain discussed the name change with Zhen Lin and Tsskiller, who I'm not sure have any affiliation with the TCG section. Regardless, read the argument [[User talk:Sunain|here]]. I think I'm gonna need your and SP252's help with this, 'cos I can't see where this guy's coming from, yet he's adamant he's right. [[User:Double Dash|Cipher]] 18:41, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

== Hey, Remember me? ==
Hey TTEchidna! Remember me, Theryguy512? I was just checking in. So how's the site going? I see you guys hit the 10,000 page mark (congrats!). Have u had any major vandalism attacks lately? I see that people still can't edit their Userpages (any end in sight for that? lol). Also, do you know if Tina and people from 'the good ol times' are still around? If I have nothing else to do over the summer, I may come back to Bulba. Is that okay?. Well, I better be on my way. I'll check in again soon. C ya. {{U|Theryguy512}} 01:15, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:Okay, you did miss a bunch! We are no longer allowed to template our signature or have images in it, so you are going to have to put the coding into the Nickname field of your preferences. Tina is gone from bulbapedia, but not the forums if you would still like to talk to her! Eight of the users (Such as Magnedeth and Porygon-Z and myself) have made a gym league (found here: [http://ipgl.proboards84.com/index.cgi]). Userspace is banned...still. And, in your absence, I have taken leadership of some of your pages, such as [[Team Rocket's Mechas]] and your anime dex project. So, that is most of what happened; hopefully you will stay for a while! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 01:27, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
::That, and non-encyclopedia stuff is no longer allowed on talk pages. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''02:09 12 Jul 2008'''''

And most if not all anime characters have party tables, thanks to thorough searching by myself--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 02:13, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

== Unprotect please ==

My talk page so I can makle a rebutal[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 18:37, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:It already unprotected itself, man. Always go into the history and check ''why'' it was, you might see an expiration time associated, which in this case was a minute ago. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:39, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

== User page ==

Hey, im new to Bulbapedia but not to wikis in general. One question: how do I start my own User page?

Mr.Lucario
:You don't. There's a ban in effect on it now, so you'll have to wait. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:08, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

::What?! no offence but thats silly. Whats the reason for this? And I see the same goes for signatures :P.

::Mr.Lucario

:::Because too many people were editing their userpages instead of actually contributing, which is what Bulbapedia is for. You can edit your signature. Just go to 'My Preferences'. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 08:26, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Perhaps we should put some HUGE writing on the front page about it, so that people DON'T HAVE TO ASK EVERY 5 SECONDS. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 11:00, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Maybe. Maybe not... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:22, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::How come your page is decorative then? All im gonna use it for is an organised contributions page... [[User:Mr.Lucario|Mr.Lucario]] 11:15, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Because he did it before the ban. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 11:19, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Block ==

I'm relitivley new here so I don't know who to talk to about blocking users but you've done alot on this site so I figured I'd come to you. A user by the name of fatferaligatrfan has been screwing around with alot of the articles lately. He has been using racial comments and coursing quite alot. I'm wondering if you could do something about this douchebag.[[User:Zabbethx|Zabbethx]] 21:56, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
:Oh god not him. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:01, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::Shiningpikablu already banned him. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 05:09, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:::As I saw. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:30, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Test ==

{| border=1 align="center" style="background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;"
|- style="background: #C0C0FF;"
! Typecolor
! Icon
! rowspan="10" |
! Typecolor
! Icon
|- align="center"
| style="background: #{{normal color}};" | [[Normal (type)|{{color|FFFFFF|Normal}}]]
| {{ic|Normal}}
| style="background: #{{fire color}};" | [[Fire (type)|{{color|FFFFFF|Fire}}]]
| {{ic|Fire}}
|- align="center"
| style="background: #{{fighting color}};" | [[Fighting (type)|{{color|FFFFFF|Fighting}}]]
| {{ic|Fighting}}
| style="background: #{{water color}};" | [[Water (type)|{{color|FFFFFF|Water}}]]
| {{ic|Water}}
|- align="center"
| style="background: #{{flying color}};" | [[Flying (type)|{{color|FFFFFF|Flying}}]]
| {{ic|Flying}}
| style="background: #{{grass color}};" | [[Grass (type)|{{color|FFFFFF|Grass}}]]
| {{ic|Grass}}
|- align="center"
| style="background: #{{poison color}};" | [[Poison (type)|{{color|FFFFFF|Poison}}]]
| {{ic|Poison}}
| style="background: #{{electric color}};" | [[Electric (type)|{{color|FFFFFF|Electric}}]]
| {{ic|Electric}}
|- align="center"
| style="background: #{{ground color}};" | [[Ground (type)|{{color|FFFFFF|Ground}}]]
| {{ic|Ground}}
| style="background: #{{psychic color}};" | [[Psychic (type)|{{color|FFFFFF|Psychic}}]]
| {{ic|Psychic}}
|- align="center"
| style="background: #{{rock color}};" | [[Rock (type)|{{color|FFFFFF|Rock}}]]
| {{ic|Rock}}
| style="background: #{{ice color}};" | [[Ice (type)|{{color|FFFFFF|Ice}}]]
| {{ic|Ice}}
|- align="center"
| style="background: #{{bug color}};" | [[Bug (type)|{{color|FFFFFF|Bug}}]]
| {{ic|Bug}}
| style="background: #{{dragon color}};" | [[Dragon (type)|{{color|FFFFFF|Dragon}}]]
| {{ic|Dragon}}
|- align="center"
| style="background: #{{ghost color}};" | [[Ghost (type)|{{color|FFFFFF|Ghost}}]]
| {{ic|Ghost}}
| style="background: #{{dark color}};" | [[Dark (type)|{{color|FFFFFF|Dark}}]]
| {{ic|Dark}}
|- align="center"
| style="background: #{{steel color}};" | [[Steel (type)|{{color|FFFFFF|Steel}}]]
| {{ic|Steel}}
| style="background: #{{??? color}};" | [[??? (type)|{{color|FFFFFF|???}}]]
| {{ic|Unknown}}
|}

== Need help ==

I created a new category <nowiki>[[Category:Undubbed characters]]</nowiki>, and for some reason the characters that were put in this category are not showing up on the page. I tried to figure out but nothing seems to work.

Sorry for bothering you. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 08:20, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

:Nevermind. I found a solution to the problem. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 08:27, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::Here's my theory... it usually takes a moment or two for pages to appear in a category when you're adding it to a bunch of them at once by way of a template. I did that several times when creating cats like {{cat|moves that cannot miss}} or {{cat|moves with a high critical-hit ratio}}. But because you created the template, added it to a bunch of pages, and then put the correct cat on the template, it's taking longer than normal to add them all. The pages have the category on them already, they're just not appearing on the category page. If you want to keep manually adding them, go ahead, but I think that, in time, it'll get itself sorted out. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 08:29, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Yeah, it takes a while for templates to update across all pages, especially when their usage goes above 30 or so. So yeah. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Lucario in Super Smash Bros. Brawl... ==

Hey I made [[Lucario (Super Smash Bros. Brawl)|this page]].
*Please post feedback and how it can be improved (Im not very good with coding)
*Is there a stub notice (if so how do i put it on?)
*Do you like my new signature? ([[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Mr.Lucario|Mr.]][[User talk:Mr.Lucario|Lucario]])
* can i have a userpage for my first contribution please?

Thanks [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Mr.Lucario|Mr.]][[User talk:Mr.Lucario|Lucario]] 11:40, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:Sorry to ruin your fun here, but a page on the Lucario in Brawl is unneccessary, as it is already covered in the Lucario article.
:Yes, there is a stub notice. Just use <nowiki>{{stub}}</nowiki>.
:Your signature has a picture in it, pictures are not allowed as per the signature policy.
:No, you can't, as you've already contributed elsewhere, and unless you plan to wait a long time for a userpage, you'll have to edit elsewhere. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 14:15, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::Well-handled, Glinn. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:19, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
::: *sigh* [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Mr.Lucario|Mr.]][[User talk:Mr.Lucario|Lucario]] 17:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

== Hmm... ==

I notice that you only put Special Abilities as a level 3 heading. I don't actually agree with this, as I view Special Abilities as part of a Pokémon's physiology.
Going on that, I would like to ask which actually makes more sense. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 11:28, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
:I honestly don't know. I see special abilities more on level with behavior and habitat than with gender differences... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:49, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
::How though? Wouldn't a special ability be part and parcel of their physiology? Say a Pokémon can shoot lightning from its tail. Wouldn't that be part of the Physiology of that Pokémon? [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 11:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

== Pokémon Type Categories ==

I'm certain a bug in some complex code has emptied these categories. You're the only one I know of that could possibly hack that code and fix that bug. Additionally, a user called {{u|AnubisOracle}} thought the solution to the problem was to replace all content on one of these category pages with a list to serve as a substitute, de-categorizing [[:Category:Bug-type Pokémon]] (one of the affected categories) in the process. Can this problem be fixed, or are we going to have to re-add them manually? Thanks. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:52, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
:Fixed it. I forgot that the subtemplates of the Pokémon infobox categorized as well. They should all be recategorized automatically at the end of the day. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:58, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

==PMD2 Anime==
Hey the Special has aired in the Netherlands should that be trivia(cause there is no sign of the US showing it)--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 05:04, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Dubbed?! Well that's odd... Usually the rest of the world mooches off of our dub. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:42, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::Yea I know. lol--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 05:42, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Should that be added?--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 06:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::::If you're sure it's the PMD2 special and not the PMD1 one... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:32, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Yes.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 06:43, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::PMD1 never aired here, but I think CP is right. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 06:49, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::PMD1 did air in the U.S--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 06:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I live in The Netherlands. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 06:52, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Oh Ok lol sorry--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 07:04, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::I've opened a topic on a dutch forum about this and someone said he had seen it. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 11:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

==Giratina and the Sky's Bouquet: Shaymin is airing saturday==
And there will possible an generation V Pokémon appear in it. What do we have to do then? [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 06:55, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Just wait till movie airs I guess TTE is either in bed or busy with something else--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 07:04, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::Busy with something else. Bed later. Like, two hours later. Making something for the weakness/resistance template. And if there's a new Pokémon in it, well, follow the freaking directions on [[User:TTEchidna/Generation V|my page]]! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Wow are a late sleeper if you're sleeping at 5 A.M lol--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 08:03, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

==Spanish Wiki==
There's a user(User:Anthony) who says there's a Spanish Wiki(Bulbapedia) called Raltsapedia and is wondering with it should belong to the Encyclopaediae Pokémonis‎.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 08:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:A Spanish one, huh? Well, I've checked it out, and it does need to do a bit of growth. Get every Spanish-speaking Pokémon fan you can find and improve it, man. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:24, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::Ok--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 20:05, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

== Catchtime Template ==

Could you please add the code in [[Template talk:Catchtime]] to [[Template:Catchtime]]. It would be extremely helpful to the Routes project and the template is protected.
[[User:Admachina|Admachina]] 19:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Hm... I guess. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:53, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

== Rules Clarification ==

I was hoping you could clarify a few things I had questions about:
# What is the intent of the User_talk pages?
# Is it appropriate to list one's credentials, prior research, and methods of contact in one's User_talk page?
# Is one allowed to remove the standard welcome text from one's own User_talk page?

I made changes to my own User_talk page a few days earlier, but was quickly reverted. Requests for clarification regarding what rule I seem to have (egregiously) broken have gone unanswered, so I'm asking you because my research indicated that I ought to ask an admin. The relevant edit history is [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tsanth&action=history here] and the ensuing requests for clarification are [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:CoolPikachu!#Welcome_Text here]. Thank you for your time. -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 23:35, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:I'm not the one you want to clarify but I can say that the intent of User talk pages is not to be used as a sort of chat page but to be used as a way of discussing subjects about the website and/or it's contents. And if truly one does not wish to have the welcome template on their discussion page, it may be removed.~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 23:41, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
#Communication with the user.
#That's sort of touchy, as there are rules against User page content on user talk pages. Things like contacts and credentials are, of course, not as bad as usertags or team pages, but considering I wasn't allowed to make a project page on a talk page, I'd err on the side of caution and wait for the userpage ban to be lifted before listing your credentials.
#No. Removal of any comments is against the rules, including the welcome message.
::Does this answer everything? --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:44, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Removal of the welcome might cause someone to dump one on there again. So unless you have an archive, there should be a welcome. Check mine, I even got a welcome! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:45, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Although it'd be best and beneficial to keep the welcome, you may remove it~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 23:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

::::: Thank you, everyone, for your responses. From the perspective of one who's only recently begun editing in earnest, it would be nice to see this and other points of etiquette/by-laws/rules set in stone on a rules page somewhere. Even links to conversations which have established precedent would be welcome (and in fact, might be more useful!). It is more than a little alarming to be shouted-at for doing something as mundane as removing (what appears to be) boilerplate. I'll await the lifting of the userspace ban to add my other research pointers and credentials, and consider other places to put the welcome text where it'll be out of the way, yet accessible. Thanks again, everyone! -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 23:56, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

User talk:TTEchidna/Archive Jul-Aug 08

2008-07-15T23:35:27Z

Tsanth: Q: Rules Clarification

User talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 2

2008-07-14T14:04:10Z

Tsanth: /* Welcome Text */

<div class="usermessage" width="100%">{{tt|Welcome to My Talk.|I'm not always on Bulbapedia.}}Thank you, -CoolPikachu!</div>
{| width="100%" style="background: #00FFFF; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 2px solid #a04059;"
|-
| width="33%" text align="center" style="background: #00FFFF; -moz-border-radius: 1em;" | [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:CoolPikachu!&action=edit&section=new '''Please leave new messages at the bottom of this page.''']
|}
{| align="left" width="70%" style="background: #A0C0F8; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 2px solid #a04059;"
|-
! Notices
|-
| style="background: #00FFFF; -moz-border-radius: 1em; padding: .5em 1em;" |
*I stole this table from '''[[User:Sailor Earth|{{color|000|this user}}]]'''. Who stole the color scheme from this '''[[User:Moldy orange|{{color|000|this user}}]]'''. And Who stole it from this
'''[[User:Jioruji Derako|{{color|000|this user}}]]'''. And stole this Archives Table from '''[[User:Porygon-Z|{{color|000|this user}}]]'''.
|}
{| align="right" width="20%" style="background: #A0C0F8; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 2px solid #a04059;"
|-
! Contents
|-
| text align="center" style="background: #00FFFF; -moz-border-radius: 1em;" | __TOC__
|}
{| align="Center" width="10%" style="background: #A0C0F8; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 2px solid #a04059;"
|-
! Archives
|-
| width="100%" text align="center" style="background: #9ACD32; -moz-border-radius: 1.3em;" | [[User_talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1| Jan. 26, 2008-June 23, 2008]]

|}
{{left clear}}
 

==N.T.S(Note to self)==
*--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 09:34, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcoming me to the site, but I don't quite know what I should put on my userpage, can you give me some suggestions? I hope i do this signature thing correctly... [[User:Digletdude|Digletdude]] 21:52, 3 July 2008 (UTC)Digletdude
:Well you can put anything right now on the userpage cause it banned so if you try to get around it you'll get banned--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 21:53, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

== im sorry.. ==

i was just trying to have a little fun

but calling it and me crap honestly wet a little far...

:kk just wait till the ban is gone...[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 23:17, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Think b4 u do stuff like that Ursa34 (tee hee)--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 23:20, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

:lol Kuki[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 23:20, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

== Grey ==

He's the Rocket Executive from [[Golden Boys]] manga. He's the highest known Team Rocket member in that series. So, technically he's the Leader Member in that manga. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 07:24, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
:Oh ok do you mind adding the article for me?--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 07:25, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

== Um... ==

How do I make signatures? I want to know... [[User:ShinyPachirisu|SP]] 23:27, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

== Pokémon Special ==

If you aren't going to add anything productive, don't bother creating the chapters yet! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:59, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
:''I AM! MAN''--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 23:00, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
::You can get them??!?!? Please do! we need [[PS012]] and [[PS014]] onward! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:28, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Ok but give me some time to do so...--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 23:25, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Okay, take as long as you want. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 23:30, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Kk I may do it later or tomorrow cause I'm busy today--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 23:48, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

== Golden Boys ==

Well, the one who uploaded it is Unown_. I just scanscripted those. But yes, I am the person who you meant. I'll try to scanslate more chapters by the end of July, I currently don't have time because my family is visiting me today (and they are staying for a week, I think) and my every step is invigilated. But I'll try to do more chapters when I find time.

But it's very nice that you recognized me. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 08:23, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Heh, heh, thanks. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 08:47, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

== Welcome Text ==

Sorry about removing the welcome text on my User:talk page. I wasn't aware that welcome text was mandatory, especially given how one can always refer back to it by browsing history. Where might I find the place that says welcome text was mandatory, so I know what other rules I shouldn't be breaking? -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 07:43, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

:Um ask an admin I can help but it about to be 1am so i have to go--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 07:53, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

:: I have read through the site docs and help pages and seen no mention of requirements to keep the welcome test on a user's talk page. Please refer me to a location which states such; if I do not receive any such confirmation, I will remove the welcome text and replace it with a more appropriate set of content. -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 10:26, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
:::And we will just keep reverting you until an admin comes and blocks you for removing content from talk pages. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 12:58, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

:::: Please note that my questions are concerning the revert in my own User:Talk page where CoolPikachu! was shouting at me ([http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tsanth&action=history my User:Talk History]). I imagine that he would have shouted at me only if this were supposed to be something incredibly obvious to users, which suggests to me that it's listed somewhere obvious. Is there a page where I can see this rule, specifically as applied to one's own User:Talk page? I've checked quite a few pages and seen no reference: [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Help:Contents here], [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Getting_started here], [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Policy here], [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Protected_page_guidelines here], [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Blocking_policy here], and [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Messages_from_the_Editor here]. There's mention on the last link about what constitutes "inappropriate," but I would expect a determination from one of the names on [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Listusers/sysop this list], or at least a link to discussion which could clarify what's been set down as "inappropriate" thus far. I'm just trying to understand where this rule comes from and where it's been set down, and I'm confused because I just don't see where this rule ("do not delete the welcome text from your own User:Talk page") comes from. -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 14:04, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon data structure (Generation IV)

2008-07-14T11:55:18Z

Tsanth: Removed my outdated discussion re: checksum.

Talk:Pokémon data structure (Generation IV)

2008-07-14T11:35:48Z

Tsanth: Added section for checksums; added TO DO list to complete article.

== TO DO ==

* Chart showing character mapping for nickname and OT name
* Describe layout of ''pkm'' blocks in relation to the main save file
* 0x08-0x09: List species IDs
* 0x0A-0x0B: List held items
* 0x14: Explain dual purpose of offset
* 0x15: List abilities
* 0x16: Describe bitfield
* 0x17: List countries
* 0x18-0x1D: Split up into individual EV bytes (1 byte/EV type)
* 0x1E-0x23: Split into individual contest stats (1 byte/stat)
* 0x28-0x2F: List moves
* 0x30-0x33: Split into PP/moveslot
* 0x34-0x37: Split into PPUp/moveslot, describe effects out of range [0..3]
* 0x38-0x3B: Describe bitfield packing of IVs, significance and use of highest two bits
* 0x40-0x41: Describe spot encoding
* 0x48-0x5D: Describe limitations on nickname
* 0x5E-0x5F: List hometowns
* 0x60-0x63: Describe bitfield packing for contests
* 0x68-0x77: Describe limitations on OT name
* 0x78-0x7A: Describe date format
* 0x7B-0x7D: Describe date format
* 0x7E-0x7F: List locations
* 0x80-0x81: List locations
* 0x82: Describe bitfield packing for Pokérus status (contagious/immune)
* 0x83: List Poké Balls
* 0x84-0x85: Describe coding

== Checksum ==

A checksum calculation algorithm is outlined (in Deutsch) at [http://www.pokemon-inside.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=6592 Pokemon Inside]. I coded up a version of it in Perl; the first byte of the checksum calculates properly, but the algorithm listed there doesn't seem to work for the second byte. Can anyone shed some light on this? -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 23:15, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

* Okay, I found the problem: the algorithm described on the page is incorrect in regards to the second checksum byte. The first checksum byte is indeed calculated as [sum of even-numbered bytes in blocks] % 0x100. However, to get the second byte of the checksum, we need to do ([sum of all bytes in blocks] + ([sum of even-numbered bytes in blocks] / 0x100)) % 0x100. Instead of taking the modulus for the second byte, we need the quotient. I just tested it on two pkm files I have on-hand; I'll do some more testing later. -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 00:00, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

* I found another way to calculate checksum. I analyzed a software, Legit.exe and it use another algorithm. It divides the 80 bytes that describe the pokemon in groups of two bytes (words). The groups are added to each other. You take the last word's bytes. Note: you must adjust the bytes of words (from little endian to big endian), sum it, adjust it again and then divide the result. XX YY ZZ AA BB CC (the 80 bytes) -> YY XX AA ZZ CC BB (adjusted words) -> YY XX + AA ZZ + CC BB (sum) -> MODULE 0x100 (take the last word) -> MM NN (checksum) -[[User:Whivel|Whivel]] 16:14, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

* I have a Python implementation of the pkm encryption code up [http://www.tsanth.com/pokemon/ here]. -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 06:41, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

* My edits to this article are done for tonight. I am planning a Python-based GUI program to allow viewing/editing Pokémon data (like Pokesav, but the first iteration will deal only with ''pkm'' files); in order to make that program, I will have to map the bitfields in the unencrypted data. I am planning to make time to update this article with that information after it's available. -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 09:32, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

== Data Block's order ==

I'm analizyng pokesav. I try to understand encrypt algorithm.
I found the system used by ds game for ordering the blocks.
i'll test it and may write the algorithm -[[User:Whivel|Whivel]] 20:45, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

User talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 2

2008-07-14T10:26:36Z

Tsanth: RE: Welcome Test

Pokémon data structure (Generation IV)

2008-07-13T00:42:25Z

Tsanth: Added ribbon bitfield data.

Boxed Pokémon in the games [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|Diamond and Pearl]] are stored in a 136-byte structure. All unencrypted values are stored in little-endian format. The game encrypts the data when it is stored into save data. In-party Pokémon have additional values appended to them to hold calculated stats. The information below describes the boxed Pokémon data format.

== Checksum ==

The checksum serves two purposes:
# It validates the data after decryption, and
# It serves as the encryption key for the data.

The checksum is calculated in three steps:
# Split the unencrypted data from offsets 0x08 to 0x87 into two-byte words,
# Take the sum of the words, and
# Truncate the sum to sixteen bits.

== Block Shuffling ==

The 128 bytes of Pokémon data are split into four 32-byte blocks for shuffling. The blocks are shuffled according to a shift value derived from the [[personality value]]. Give the personality value ''pv'', the expression yielding the shift value is:
: ''((pv >> 0xD) & 0x1F) % 24''
The right shifting (pv >> 0xD) is equivalent to a division for 8192.

To shuffle the blocks, take the four blocks of unencrypted data to be ''A'', ''B'', ''C'', and ''D''. The blocks shall be rearranged in the encrypted data according to this table:

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse;"
|- style="background: #ccc;" align="center"
! Shift Value (decimal)
! Block Order
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 00
| ABCD
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 01
| ABDC
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 02
| ACBD
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 03
| ACDB
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 04
| ADBC
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 05
| ADCB
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 06
| BACD
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 07
| BADC
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 08
| BCAD
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 09
| BCDA
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 10
| BDAC
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 11
| BDCA
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 12
| CABD
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 13
| CADB
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 14
| CBAD
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 15
| CBDA
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 16
| CDAB
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 17
| CDBA
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 18
| DABC
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 19
| DACB
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 20
| DBAC
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 21
| DBCA
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 22
| DCAB
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 23
| DCBA
|}

== Encryption ==

The encryption uses the pseudorandom number generator (PRNG), a linear congruential generator. Elements of the PRNG can be described with the recursive function:
: ''X[n+1] = (0x41C64E6D * X[n] + 0x6073) % 0xFFFFFFFF''

To decrypt the data, given a function ''rand()'' which returns the upper 16 bits of consecutive results of the above given function:
# Seed the PRNG with the checksum (let ''X[n]'' be the checksum),
# Sequentially, for each 2-byte word ''Y'' from 0x08 to 0x87, apply the transformation: ''unencryptedByte = Y xor rand()''
# Un-shuffle the blocks using the block shuffling algorithm above.

To encrypt the data:
# Shuffle the blocks using the block shuffling algorithm above.
# Seed the PRNG with the checksum (let ''X[n]'' be the checksum),
# Sequentially, for each 2-byte word ''Y'' from 0x08 to 0x87, apply the transformation: ''unencryptedByte = Y xor rand()''

== Unencrypted bytes ==
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse;"
|- style="background: #ccc;" align="center"
! Offset
! Contents
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x00-0x03
| [[Personality value]]
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x04-0x05
| ''Unknown''
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x06-0x07
| Checksum
|}

=== Block A ===

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse;"
|- style="background: #ccc;" align="center"
! Offset
! Contents
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x08-0x09
| Species ID
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x0A-0x0B
| Held Item
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x0C-0x0D
| OT ID
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x0E-0x0F
| OT Secret ID
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x10-0x13
| [[Experience|Experience points]]
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x14
| Friendship/Egg Steps to Hatch
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x15
| [[Ability]]
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x16
| Markings
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x17
| Country of Origin
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x18-0x1D
| [[Effort values]]
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x1E-0x23
| Contest stats
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x24-0x27
| Ribbons
|}

=== Block B ===
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse;"
|- style="background: #ccc;" align="center"
! Offset
! Contents
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x28-0x2F
| Moveset
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x30-0x33
| Move PP
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x34-0x37
| Move PP Ups
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x38-0x3B
| [[Individual values]]
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x3C-0x3F
| Ribbons 2
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x40
| Gender
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x41-0x47
| ''Unknown''
|}

=== Block C ===
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse;"
|- style="background: #ccc;" align="center"
! Offset
! Contents
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x48-0x5D
| Nickname
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x5E
| ''Unknown''
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x5F
| Hometown
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x60-0x62
| Contests
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x63-0x67
| ''Unknown''
|}

=== Block D ===
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse;"
|- style="background: #ccc;" align="center"
! Offset
! Contents
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x68-0x77
| OT Name
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x78-0x7A
| Date Egg Received
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x7B-0x7D
| Date Met
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x7E-0x7F
| Egg Location
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x80-0x81
| Met At Location
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x82
| [[Pokérus]]
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x83
| Poké Ball
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x84
| Met At Level
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x85
| Encounter Type
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x86-0x87
| ''Unknown''
|}

== Ribbons ==

DP stores the ribbon data as bitfields in 16-bit words. Given below are the bytewise representations of the ribbon bitfields:

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse;"
! Bit
! Ribbon
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x25 & 0x01
| Sinnoh Champ Ribbon
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x25 & 0x02
| Ability Ribbon
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x25 & 0x04
| Great Ability Ribbon
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x25 & 0x08
| Double Ability Ribbon
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x25 & 0x10
| Multi Ability Ribbon
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x25 & 0x20
| Pair Ability Ribbon
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x25 & 0x40
| World Ability Ribbon
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x25 & 0x80
| Alert Ribbon
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x24 & 0x01
| Shock Ribbon
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x24 & 0x02
| Downcast Ribbon
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x24 & 0x04
| Careless Ribbon
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x24 & 0x08
| Relax Ribbon
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x24 & 0x10
| Snooze Ribbon
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x24 & 0x20
| Smile Ribbon
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x24 & 0x40
| Gorgeous Ribbon
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x24 & 0x80
| Royal Ribbon
|}

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse;"
! Bit
! Ribbon
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x27 & 0x01
| Gorgeous Royal Ribbon
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x27 & 0x02
| Footprint Ribbon
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x27 & 0x04
| Record Ribbon
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x27 & 0x08
| History Ribbon
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x27 & 0x10
| Legend Ribbon
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x27 & 0x20
| Red Ribbon
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x27 & 0x40
| Green Ribbon
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x27 & 0x80
| Blue Ribbon
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x26 & 0x01
| Festival Ribbon
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x26 & 0x02
| Carnival Ribbon
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x26 & 0x04
| Classic Ribbon
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x26 & 0x08
| Premier Ribbon
|}

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse;"
! Bit
! Ribbon
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x3D & 0x01
| Cool Ribbon
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x3D & 0x02
| Cool Ribbon Super
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x3D & 0x04
| Cool Ribbon Hyper
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x3D & 0x08
| Cool Ribbon Master
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x3D & 0x10
| Beauty Ribbon
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x3D & 0x20
| Beauty Ribbon Super
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x3D & 0x40
| Beauty Ribbon Hyper
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x3D & 0x80
| Beauty Ribbon Master
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x3C & 0x01
| Cute Ribbon
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x3C & 0x02
| Cute Ribbon Super
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x3C & 0x04
| Cute Ribbon Hyper
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x3C & 0x08
| Cute Ribbon Master
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x3C & 0x10
| Smart Ribbon
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x3C & 0x20
| Smart Ribbon Super
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x3C & 0x40
| Smart Ribbon Hyper
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x3C & 0x80
| Smart Ribbon Master
|}

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse;"
! Bit
! Ribbon
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x3F & 0x01
| Tough Ribbon
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x3F & 0x02
| Tough Ribbon Super
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x3F & 0x04
| Tough Ribbon Hyper
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x3F & 0x08
| Tough Ribbon Master
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x3F & 0x10
| Champion Ribbon
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x3F & 0x20
| Winning Ribbon
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x3F & 0x40
| Victory Ribbon
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x3F & 0x80
| Artist Ribbon
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x3E & 0x01
| Effort Ribbon
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x3E & 0x02
| Marine Ribbon
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x3E & 0x04
| Land Ribbon
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x3E & 0x08
| Sky Ribbon
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x3E & 0x10
| Country Ribbon
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x3E & 0x20
| National Ribbon
|- style="background: #eee;" align="center"
| 0x3E & 0x40
| Earth Ribbon
|- style="background: #ddd;" align="center"
| 0x3E & 0x80
| World Ribbon
|}

[[Category:Structures]]
[[Category:Game mechanics]]

Talk:Pokémon data structure (Generation IV)

2008-07-12T09:32:07Z

Tsanth: Edits done for tonight; notes regarding future intentions.

A checksum calculation algorithm is outlined (in Deutsch) at [http://www.pokemon-inside.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=6592 Pokemon Inside]. I coded up a version of it in Perl; the first byte of the checksum calculates properly, but the algorithm listed there doesn't seem to work for the second byte. Can anyone shed some light on this? -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 23:15, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

* Okay, I found the problem: the algorithm described on the page is incorrect in regards to the second checksum byte. The first checksum byte is indeed calculated as [sum of even-numbered bytes in blocks] % 0x100. However, to get the second byte of the checksum, we need to do ([sum of all bytes in blocks] + ([sum of even-numbered bytes in blocks] / 0x100)) % 0x100. Instead of taking the modulus for the second byte, we need the quotient. I just tested it on two pkm files I have on-hand; I'll do some more testing later. -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 00:00, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

* I found another way to calculate checksum. I analyzed a software, Legit.exe and it use another algorithm. It divides the 80 bytes that describe the pokemon in groups of two bytes (words). The groups are added to each other. You take the last word's bytes. Note: you must adjust the bytes of words (from little endian to big endian), sum it, adjust it again and then divide the result. XX YY ZZ AA BB CC (the 80 bytes) -> YY XX AA ZZ CC BB (adjusted words) -> YY XX + AA ZZ + CC BB (sum) -> MODULE 0x100 (take the last word) -> MM NN (checksum) -[[User:Whivel|Whivel]] 16:14, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

* I have a Python implementation of the pkm encryption code up [http://www.tsanth.com/pokemon/ here]. -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 06:41, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

* My edits to this article are done for tonight. I am planning a Python-based GUI program to allow viewing/editing Pokémon data (like Pokesav, but the first iteration will deal only with ''pkm'' files); in order to make that program, I will have to map the bitfields in the unencrypted data. I am planning to make time to update this article with that information after it's available. -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 09:32, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

== Data Block's order ==

I'm analizyng pokesav. I try to understand encrypt algorithm.
I found the system used by ds game for ordering the blocks.
i'll test it and may write the algorithm -[[User:Whivel|Whivel]] 20:45, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Pokémon data structure (Generation IV)

2008-07-12T09:25:05Z

Tsanth: Removed extra newline between blocks C and D.

Pokémon data structure (Generation IV)

2008-07-12T09:23:13Z

Tsanth: Prettified unencrypted block contents.

Pokémon data structure (Generation IV)

2008-07-12T08:52:47Z

Tsanth: Fixed error in encryption algorithm; denoted decimal versus hexadecimal numbers.

Pokémon data structure (Generation IV)

2008-07-12T08:43:32Z

Tsanth: Prettified layout, corrected style, changed wording.

User talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 2

2008-07-12T07:43:13Z

Tsanth: Welcome text

User talk:Tsanth

2008-07-12T07:21:49Z

Tsanth: Cleaned up intro text. Leaving as minimal as possible so as to not impact bandwidth or server load.

Information for those who are curious, since the ''User:''-space still seems to be blocked:
* I am a regular on the Pearl board on GameFAQs.
* I maintain a thread on DP game internals on that same board [http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=925602&topic=40532445 here].

If anyone has questions about the random number generator or Pokémon data encryption algorithms (among things), I will be more than happy to assist to the best of my ability. -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 07:21, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Pokémon data structure (Generation IV)

2008-07-12T07:02:31Z

Tsanth: Added information on the checksum and encryption algorithms; minor edits to layout and top-matter for clarity.

Talk:Pokémon data structure (Generation IV)

2008-07-12T06:41:27Z

Tsanth: Added link to Python implementation of encryption algorithm.

A checksum calculation algorithm is outlined (in Deutsch) at [http://www.pokemon-inside.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=6592 Pokemon Inside]. I coded up a version of it in Perl; the first byte of the checksum calculates properly, but the algorithm listed there doesn't seem to work for the second byte. Can anyone shed some light on this? -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 23:15, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

* Okay, I found the problem: the algorithm described on the page is incorrect in regards to the second checksum byte. The first checksum byte is indeed calculated as [sum of even-numbered bytes in blocks] % 0x100. However, to get the second byte of the checksum, we need to do ([sum of all bytes in blocks] + ([sum of even-numbered bytes in blocks] / 0x100)) % 0x100. Instead of taking the modulus for the second byte, we need the quotient. I just tested it on two pkm files I have on-hand; I'll do some more testing later. -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 00:00, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

*I found another way to calculate checksum. I analyzed a software, Legit.exe and it use another algorithm. It divides the 80 bytes that describe the pokemon in groups of two bytes (words). The groups are added to each other. You take the last word's bytes. Note: you must adjust the bytes of words (from little endian to big endian), sum it, adjust it again and then divide the result. XX YY ZZ AA BB CC (the 80 bytes) -> YY XX AA ZZ CC BB (adjusted words) -> YY XX + AA ZZ + CC BB (sum) -> MODULE 0x100 (take the last word) -> MM NN (checksum) -[[User:Whivel|Whivel]] 16:14, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

* I have a Python implementation of the pkm encryption code up [http://www.tsanth.com/pokemon/ here]. -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 06:41, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

== Data Block's order ==

I'm analizyng pokesav. I try to understand encrypt algorithm.
I found the system used by ds game for ordering the blocks.
i'll test it and may write the algorithm -[[User:Whivel|Whivel]] 20:45, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Mulch

2008-01-08T16:16:09Z

Tsanth: Harvest information RE:Growth

== Or does it...? ==

Does it double/half the growth time? I did an experiment yesterday and my Sitrus and Oran Berries became fruit-bearing at different times, not the same. {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 08:20, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

* veekun.com alleges a 25% time reduction for Growth Mulch: http://veekun.com/dex/items/growth%20mulch -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 19:57, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
** Update to that: I planted a Wiki in Growth at 0822 PST; it went to next stage somewhere between 1200 and 1204 PST. I'll try to keep track of when it changes stages. -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 20:09, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
*** Another update: I watched the next stage. Mine changed at 1550 PST. Perhaps it's 75% time plus an alpha? -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 23:54, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
**** This time I saw the actual change to next stage. You get the sparkly animation (I saw half of it before, but wasn't sure if I saw it correctly), and the new sprite replaces the old one. The next stage procced at 1939. This data isn't proving very predictable, as of yet. -_- -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 03:47, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
***** My final stage came about at 2343 PST, right before the time switched to 2344: maybe the Growth Mulch reduces each stage's length by ~1hr? I re-verified the sparkly animation and harvested 5 berries for every one planted. Perhaps the berry yield is dependent upon total growth time? I watered every stage; the soil went light only once. -[[User:Tsanth|Tsanth]] 16:16, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Mulch

2008-01-08T03:47:51Z

Tsanth: Yet more Mulch stuff

Talk:Mulch

2008-01-07T23:54:37Z

Tsanth: More Growth Mulch stuff

Talk:Mulch

2008-01-07T20:09:13Z

Tsanth: More Growth Mulch stuff

Talk:Mulch

2008-01-07T19:57:38Z

Tsanth: Growth Mulch time

Talk:Pokémon data structure (Generation IV)

2007-12-13T00:00:28Z

Tsanth: Possibly fixed the checksum algorithm.

Talk:Pokémon data structure (Generation IV)

2007-12-12T23:15:20Z

Tsanth: Link to possible calculation algorithm, in Deutsch.