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==Interwiki==
Don't forget the interwikis! <nowiki>[[de:Pokémon Omega Rubin und Alpha Saphir]] [[fr:Pokémon Rubis Oméga et Saphir Alpha]] [[it:Pokémon Rubino Omega e Zaffiro Alpha]]</nowiki> Btw... why you are protect all pages, that are related in any form with the new remakes? Sorry for my bad english, I'm from Germany... [[User:Tobutz98|Tobutz98]] ([[User talk:Tobutz98|talk]]) 19:17, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
: Pages related to any breaking news are generally protected to prevent wild speculation or misinformation from being added. I'm not sure if there's a specific place or way to request edits to locked pages, sadly. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 19:36, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
::The place to request edits for locked pages is on their talk page, or the talk page of a staff member. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 19:55, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

==Add Template==
I think it would be wise that one of the Admins put "Template:Upcoming notice" or a different template I could not find on this page because it is new unless I am wrong and this is not necessary because of the page protection. [[User:Dbeckelheimer6|Dbeckelheimer6]] ([[User talk:Dbeckelheimer6|talk]]) 21:30, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

==Edit suggestions==
* "<nowiki>are the secondary [[paired version]]s of [[Generation VI]]</nowiki>" implies that every subsequent generation has had "secondary paired versions" (a phrase that is being used to represent both remakes and sequels), which is incorrect. Why not just copy and customize the text from the intros of {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}} and {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}?
* "Both games were revealed {{tt|during|in}} a worldwide announcement by the official Pokémon {{tt|websites,|remove comma}} on May 7, 2014. The paired versions will be released worldwide {{tt|during|in}} November 2014."
* Change "<nowiki>[[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Pokémon Ruby and Pokémon Sapphire]]</nowiki>" to "<nowiki>{{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}</nowiki>" —[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|The]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|Best]] 05:29, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
:Hello, I have made some changes as you have requested. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:59, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks, trom. However, it says that November 2014 is the release ''date'', but I think this should say ''release period''. Also, "PAccording to the press release which announced the games" should be "According to the press release that announced the games". Some users seem to think that ''which'' can replace ''that'' in this instance because I see it often, but this is folly. For instance, the phrasing "The book, which I read last night, was exciting" must use ''which'' and not ''that'', while "The book that I read last night was exciting" is the opposite (but may also omit ''that'' entirely). —[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|The]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|Best]] (UTC) 09:26, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
:::Folly indeed. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:41, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

==Trailer Video==
Can an admin add this to the page??
{{youtubevid|ywGSON9tNq0|pokemon|Hoenn}}
 --<sc>✓[[User:PikaTepig999|Pika]][[User talk:PikaTepig999|Tepig]][[Special:Contributions/Pikatepig999|999]]✓</sc> 08:18, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
:Done, although I dislike that template so I chose not to use it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:41, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
::Don't mind me, but may I ask why you don't like that template ?? --<sc>✓[[User:PikaTepig999|Pika]][[User talk:PikaTepig999|Tepig]][[Special:Contributions/Pikatepig999|999]]✓</sc> 09:09, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

==Poké Transporter==
If these games use the Poké Transporter, like [[Pokémon X and Y|X and Y]], will it be worth noting that these are the first remakes to be compatible with the originals, if indirectly?
[[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions]] → [[Pal Park]] → [[Generation IV]] → [[Poké Transfer]] → [[Generation V]] → [[Poké Transporter]] → [[Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire]] | [[User:Glitchipedia|This message brought to you by Glitchipedia, the falsified encyclopedia]] ([[User talk:Glitchipedia|talk]]) 14:46, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
:It is currently unknown if they will use the Poke Transporter.  --<sc>✓[[User:PikaTepig999|Pika]][[User talk:PikaTepig999|Tepig]][[Special:Contributions/Pikatepig999|999]]✓</sc> 09:35, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
::That wasn't my question. I said ''if'' they do, will this be worth noting? [[User:Glitchipedia|This message brought to you by Glitchipedia, the falsified encyclopedia]] ([[User talk:Glitchipedia|talk]]) 15:27, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
:::Even if they don't, they'll still be compatible with the originals via Poke Transporter to XY, then trade to ORAS. It's still speculative to say it yet, but as soon as either Poke Transporter or trade capability is revealed, I would think it'd be notable that they're the ''only'' ones (not just the first, since first is of debatable notability for some things). [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:20, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
::::It's certainly worth noting in my opinion, but i also think that the admins should approve it. And @Pumpkinking, they are ''currently'' the only ones,but ''if'' in the future a remake of DP is announced, we'll have to change the wording. --<sc>✓[[User:PikaTepig999|Pika]][[User talk:PikaTepig999|Tepig]][[Special:Contributions/Pikatepig999|999]]✓</sc> 09:34, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

==Press Release Description==
The second paragraph "According to the press release that announced the games, the new titles will to take players through a dramatic story within a spectacular new world." should be changed to reflect that this is not a new game as "spectacular new world" implies.
The official website also gives a far more accurate description of the game http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-omega-ruby-and-pokemon-alpha-sapphire/
[[User:Luneth|Luneth]] ([[User talk:Luneth|talk]]) 15:31, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
:So why don't we just delete the "new" in "a spectacular new world"? [[User:Snekradguy|Snekradguy]] ([[User talk:Snekradguy|talk]]) 16:03, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
::Modifying any quote typically makes the quote unusable. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 16:59, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
:::It isn't really a quote because the video never mentions "a spectacular new world". Only "an epic new adventure" and "a dramatic new world". [[User:Snekradguy|Snekradguy]] ([[User talk:Snekradguy|talk]]) 19:01, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
::::[http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Omega_Ruby,_Pok%C3%A9mon_Alpha_Sapphire_announced It's a quote from the official press release.] [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 19:26, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
:::::Can we at least put "an epic new adventure in a spectacular new world" in quotes? --[[User:KommanderAwesome|KommanderAwesome]] ([[User talk:KommanderAwesome|talk]]) 20:23, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
::::::Not the way in your comment since that would be combining two quotes together. The largest stretch I can see is, the games will take players on "an epic new adventure" to "a dramatic new world." Still, I believe the wording on the article is the best so far. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 21:57, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

==New information from Serebii==

we should include this info from todays news: http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml

"Following its reveal yesterday, there has been some question as to the actual content of Pokémon Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire, as to whether they're remakes or new versions due to the wording of the announcement. During the Investor Briefing today, Satoru Iwata confirmed that Pokémon Omega Ruby & Pokémon Alpha Sapphire are full-remakes of the 2002 releases, Pokémon Ruby & Sapphire. We'll bring more on these games as it comes
Edit @ 15:38: The Japanese arm of The Pokémon Company sent out an e-mail to all Daisuki Club members which ends up pointing out the differences to Groudon & Kyogre on the box-art, stating that they're showcasing "never before seen Pokémon", the same terminology they used for Black & White Kyurem, as well as Mega Mewtwo Y upon their reveal, indicating that they are more than stylised artwork of the Pokémon. We'll bring more on this as it comes"

[[User:Pearlgamez|Pearlgamez]] ([[User talk:Pearlgamez|talk]]) 20:07, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
:Serebii should not be used as a source. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 00:43, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
::I personally received that email and did not see any indication this was true. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:26, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
:::I agree serebii should not be used as a source. Speculation about the differences to Groudon & Kyogre seems to indicate they may be mega-evolutions of the originals, but as no official information about mega-evolutions in the remakes has been announced it can't be used in this article. [[User:ADCK|ADCK]] ([[User talk:ADCK|talk]]) 02:12, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
::::I also agree. Serebii should not be used as a source, or else Pidgeot would be blue and Magikarp would be a Psychic-type. [[User:Espurr101|Espurr101]] ([[User talk:Espurr101|talk]]) 12:03, 28 May 2014 (UTC)Espurr101

== Use of the word Remake ==

Should we really use the word "remake" quite yet?

I know from previous patterns, the naming of the games and all that points to remakes, but at this point in time they might just be sequels or new games entirely. They even mention a new world, and the guy who gives the idol mentions a new region, so this might not take place in Hoenn at all.

I'm really just playing devil's advocate here, but we should watch the wording on the article for now. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 06:59, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
:You haven't followed the news, have you? They were [http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/140508/index.html confirmed] to be remakes yesterday. You should do your "homework" more often before you're posting questions.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 07:17, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

::I've been following the news since it broke, but every tweet and article just repackaged/re-tweeted the same info. 99% of every article I found on the subject of the remakes just quoted the blurb from the trailer. That article you linked to was the first OFFICIAL piece of news I've seen that gave details on the remakes. You can't expect to do biology homework if all the school has are math books.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 11:26, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
:::On the second thought, I was too harsh for you. Unlike what I thought, the link to the official statement has ''not'' been posted to almost any fan or official site; everyone just believes what Serebii says. Sorry about that.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 13:37, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
::::Its ok, like Dawn always says, No Need To Worry. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 20:04, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

=='Oras' is the Lithuanian word for 'Weather'==
The name of the games is likely a play on the letters theme started with XY (ie. the Greek letters 'Α' and 'Ω'), and the Lithuanian word for weather, [https://translate.google.com/#en/lt/weather Oras] -- weather being one of the prominent elements of RSE. Sounds like a interesting fact to add to the Trivia section. --[[User:Ash Pokemaster|Ash Pokemaster]] ([[User talk:Ash Pokemaster|talk]]) 13:07, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

:It could also be a reference to the phrase "I am the Alpha and the Omega" in the Book of Revelation. Usually the phrase refers to Christ or God and typically is taken as meaning "I am the Beginning and the End". Possibly a hint that the story could involve Pokemon gods in some way. Interesting to note that Arceus is the 'Alpha' Pokemon according to the Pokedex and is the closest thing to a Pokemon 'God' we've seen as it was supposedly the creator of the Pokemon world. Perhaps we might see the 'Omega' Pokemon, or in other words, the 'End' or destroyer. (Basically the Pokemon Satan) - [[User:PsychoP|PsychoP]] ([[User talk:PsychoP|talk]]) 18:01, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
::We don't know what's going to happen in the games and this isn't the place for speculation. And no. That would require them making an actual new Pokemon, which won't happen in a remake. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 18:19, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
:::We already have an alpha Pokemon, Arceus, and Giratina is based of the devil. Although, X and Y did kind of have the alpha and omega thing going, as Xerneas is the life Pokemon and Yveltal is the destruction Pokemon. Maybe Groudon and Kyogre will get alpha an omega forms. Idk, better wait for CoroCoro. {{unsigned|Espurr101}}

I think Bob Ross said it best, and what we have on our hands here is "a little happy mistake." It's just pure coincidence I am sure. Also Delta Emerald has been registered, and if they broke the mold and released that, it would be ORASDE which means nothing at all. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 19:46, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

==No evident that Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire are in the Generation VI==
We should at least wait for the announcement of cross-game communication of Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire to be sure if they are indeed Generation VI. And according to this:
:"A generation, in terms of the Pokémon franchise, is a subset of the series that debuted or is set around the same time, focusing on the same region, and featuring the same Pokémon."
I don't think they are Generation VI at all if we go by this definition. We should probably change that. Besides, Generations may be separated by their methods of inter-game communications. I don't think, currently, there is anything we can say about battling or sending Pokemon from or to these games from or to X and Y.

Originally posted in [[Talk:Generation]] by [[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 06:55, 8 May 2014 (UTC).
Moved here by [[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 09:48, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
:It's totally safe to assume that Hoenn remakes aren't introducing a new generation, especially when there are lots of unreleased Gen VI stuff and the XY anime series isn't even in the halfway.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 10:19, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
::It is safe, but an encyclopaedia is obligated to only display information that is evidental. I won't have a problem if we put up "probably" or "highly speculated" instead of "part of". -[[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 12:26, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
:::It's obviously generation VI. That is a guaranteed fact. Sure, it hasn't been stated, but it doesn't need to be stated. Generation VI is the current generation. Each generation starts with a brand new game in a brand new region with brand new Pokémon. It won't start with a remake. It's only logical that this is a Generation VI game. Also, it's being released on the same generation console as other Gen VI games which further backs up this point. It's Gen VI and although it hasn't been stated, there is enough evidence to make that claim. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 12:36, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
::::That way, we will have to refine our definitions of a generation. -[[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 12:52, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
::::: In my honest opinion (although everyones views are different as I can see on here lol) but until Nintendo/GameFreak/Pokemon says it's NOT part of Generation VI, it should be considered Generation VI games until further notice, and also, a lot of clues and hints in Pokemon X and Y further hinted that Pokemon Ruby & Sapphire would be remade, so it makes sense (to me anyways), but also Generation VI is not completed yet (that we know of) as we have seen in all other generations that either a 3rd game (Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, Platinum) or in the case of Generation V (Black 2 and White 2) were released to complete a Generation. And just like Generation III we had Ruby & Sapphire release first followed by FireRed & LeafGreen then Emerald, then in Generation IV we had Diamond, Pearl, Platinum then followed by HeartGold & SoulSilver. So far it seems that Generation VI is following the pattern of Generation III (so far, that is). But mind you, thats just my opinion, but like I said at the start of my "rant" (lol) until Nintendo/GameFreak/Pokemon says it's NOT part of Generation VI, it should still be considered Generation VI until further notice. Demers-Vachon 10:44, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

:::I agree. They never start a generation with remakes. They only start a generation with a new region full of new Pokémon. Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire would more likely focus on the Generation III Pokémon than to introduce new ones. In FireRed and LeafGreen, you only met the original 150 Pokémon before getting the National Pokédex to catch Johto Pokémon and trade with Hoenn for the then-current Pokémon. FireRed LeafGreen didn't introduce any new Pokémon. They only brought back the classic Pokémon. HeartGold and SoulSilver did tweak the Johto Pokédex a bit to include five Gen IV evolutions that resulted from moves (although, I don't get why they didn't just put a move tutor in Kanto.) So HeartGold and SoulSilver didn't introduce any Pokémon. And X and Y had just came out last October. That was only 7 months ago, so if Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire started Generation VII, Gen 6 would be the shortest generation ever. The possibility of Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire starting a new generation is slim. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 11:16, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

:::::I agree that these should be considered Generation VI, at least until we discover otherwise. While it is possible that we may get a new generation, the odds are incredibly small. Additionally, Pokémon tends to keep all of its media together. Even if X and Y are the only video games in Generation VI, I find it unlikely that Nintendo would push for a Generation VII when Ash Ketchum still has to finish his journey through Kalos in the anime, the Pokémon Adventures X and Y chapter is just getting started, and not even all Generation VI Pokémon have been made available as TCG cards. Heck, we still have yet to see the release of Diancie, Volcanion, and Hoopa in the video games, so even the video games cannot be finished here. Finally, I must correct you on something, SeanWheeler. FireRed and LeafGreen did actually introduce a new Pokémon: Deoxys. There were no events for it prior to the release of FRLG and when the events occurred, it could only be obtained in FRLG, not in Ruby and Sapphire. --[[User:GoldenSandslash15|GoldenSandslash15]] ([[User talk:GoldenSandslash15|talk]]) 22:37, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Also, please remind me if "Generations" are the official creations or simply how it is defined in the fandom? I think we should judge if certain titles are in a certain generation according to an objective definition. I understand that it is highly probable to see it released as in the Generation VI. But this is not a confirmed fact or official announcement, but a derived theory. -[[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 22:52, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
:The term generation has been used by official sources, such as Pokemon.com and the boxes of DP. Several traits that typically signify a new generation are not present, like no new region and no new Pokémon. Frankly, I think this whole argument is pointless. It's obvious that it's going to be released within this generation and at this rate we'll only keep going around in circles. It's really not worth continuing. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 23:10, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

:Sorry about that then. I thought Generations were something we created to group the titles. -[[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 07:59, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

::: I agree with what "Pokemaster" had said earlier, this topic is just going around in circles until the games are released in November. I do firmly believe that Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire is part of Generation VI. If those games were to begin Generation VII, then I highly doubt they would have had Ash in Kalos, or if they did, he would have gotten 6 to 7 gym badges by now (more in reference to the Japan episodes that has aired already not the English ones) and from what I have seen, he so far only has one gym badge obtained and caught 2 pokemon (Froakie & Fletchling). But thats just my thoughts about it. Demers-Vachon 08:56, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

::::::It's possible they will add more pokemon, but only gen VI ones, I doubt they'll touch the original gens ones... However, that being said and all, they've just started using Mega evolutions, I doubt they will drop them, so we may see many new mega evolutions instead of new pokemon. [[User:ADCK|ADCK]] ([[User talk:ADCK|talk]]) 01:55, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

It is going in circles and no conclusion can be drawn. This is precisely what I wanted to say: We don't have official confirmation on which Generation this is in. On the page, there is this row: part of Generation VI. It looks like some official words. No matter how logical the derivations are, they are just speculations. There is not any canonical material or announcement making this claim. I have not been questioning its correctness. I have been questioning its validity. -[[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 03:14, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

::While there is no concrete 100% proof that it is Generation VI, there is no concrete 100% proof that it is Generation VII either. It could be either one. So the article should use whichever is more likely, which is Generation VI. You may think that we shouldn't make assumptions like that, but you have to remember that Nintendo never said that X and Y were a part of Generation VI. Or any of the other games were part of their respective Generations. So we will never have any official proof, because the very idea of generations is unofficial. (The boxes of Diamond/Pearl did say "A new generation", but that's just marketing crap. It could have just as easily said "a new adventure". And either way, "a new generation" doesn't necessarily mean Generation IV. For all we know, Nintendo classified every game before DP as a single generation, and every game since then is Generation II). This being the case, even when the games come out, it's likely that we won't know what generation to put. It's entirely fan-made. So, we do the logical thing of putting what most fans would classify this as. And in that regard, there's no reason why we can't put Generation VI now. Of course, when the games come out, if we see that there is enough separating it from X and Y, such as incompatibility, new Pokémon, a new region (technically the "Hoenn Confirmed!" meme is wrong - Hoenn has not been confirmed), etc., then fans may choose to reclassify it as Generation VII. If that's the case, we can edit the article at the time to reflect the shift in the fans's views. --[[User:GoldenSandslash15|GoldenSandslash15]] ([[User talk:GoldenSandslash15|talk]]) 03:39, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

I was not questioning if there is any probability of it coming out as Generation VII. I was questioning, even if it is very probable to be Generation VI, the validity is that it is deduced or speculated, even based on many objective observations. But none of the quoted are as valid as an official release. If "Generation" is The Pokemon Company's official terms, we cannot say something is or is not without the company first says so. If, instead, "Generation" is what the fandom creates, "official" means the stance de facto in the fandom, hence, verifiable and objective criteria and definitions. -[[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 05:30, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
:We don't need them to flat out state they are part of Generation VI. They only use the word Generation when a new one starts, and it's always when a new region is introduced and new Pokémon (not new forms) are introduced. Suggesting that they are part of a completely different Generation is ridiculous. There is only one Generation at a time. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 06:11, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Please, read again. I have not suggested they are part of a completely different Generation. I have not suggested any possibility. I only questioned the validity. -[[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 09:41, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
:Nothing is being changed, and this discussion is closed. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 09:54, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

== Mega Evolutions ==

I know we can't state this to be a confirmed fact, but comparing Groudon and Kyogre here to their usual appearance seems to indicate they're in a different form. Perhaps it's a mega evolution? [[User:Draceon|Draceon]] ([[User talk:Draceon|talk]]) 00:25, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
:Talk pages are for the improvement of the article, not for idle discussion of the article's topic. Use [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forum.php the forums] if you're interested in speculating about potential Mega Evolutions for the new games. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 01:06, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
::I was unsure as to whether that should be taken note of on this page, given its visibility on the box art, but seeign as it's unconfirmed I will take my leave to the forums. [[User:Draceon|Draceon]] ([[User talk:Draceon|talk]]) 04:47, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

== English official site ==

This should be added as an official site in the infobox as it is on the other games: [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-omega-ruby-and-pokemon-alpha-sapphire/ Pokémon.com] --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 00:48, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

== PEGI rating ==

Shouldn't the PEGI rating be 7, as it shows in [http://youtu.be/7xPhlAas1ik this video]? [[User:Snekradguy|Snekradguy]] ([[User talk:Snekradguy|talk]]) 15:25, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
:Right underneath that it says Provisional, which means it could change. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 17:10, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
::I'm sorry, I'm from the Netherlands, so I didn't know what it meant, I thought it was just some kind of company name or something like that. [[User:Snekradguy|Snekradguy]] ([[User talk:Snekradguy|talk]]) 20:21, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

== Delta Emerald ==

So apparently Delta Emerald has been registered. Is this worth noting on the article? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 19:42, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
:There's been countless trademarks like this before and they've not been mentioned (Such as Water Blue) so it doesn't seem necessary. --[[User:S2daam|--samm :D]] 19:46, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
::Even though Game Freak/Nintendo may or may not use the "Delta Emerald" trademark, I think it warrants some sort of mention (a single sentence would suffice, and there are [http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/05/29/pokemon-delta-emerald-trademark-surfaces other sources]/[http://mynintendonews.com/2014/05/29/nintendo-trademarks-pokemon-delta-emerald/ websites] covering it as well), primarily due to the term apparently being registered around the same time as "OmegaRuby/AlphaSapphire" (and it is the only trademark that is a feasible parallel to the OmegaRuby/AlphaSapphire names with the "Greek letter + precious gemstone" construct). I personally think ''WaterBlue'' merits a similar mention -- due to its same-time registration with ''FireRed/LeafGreen'' (and being the closest parallel to those terms with the "element + color" construct) and the matter that Game Freak actually addressed the "LeafGreen title retaining" issue at one point. [[User:Fenyx4|Fenyx4]] ([[User talk:Fenyx4|talk]]) 22:51, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
:::My only concern with this is was any Crystal remake title trade marked with HGSS? We know Gray was trade marked before B2W2[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 02:24, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

== Coro Coro leak ==

The Coro Coro leak is out with new information. Swampert and Sceptile has Mega Evolutions. Brendan and May are confirmed. Teams Aqua and Magma were shown. Steven apparently has a Mega Charizard X. When are we going to update this article? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 21:14, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
:No content regarding the CoroCoro leaks are going to be added until it can be known they aren't fake. --[[User:NOBODY|NOBODY]] ([[User talk:NOBODY|talk]]) 21:48, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
::So how are leaks proven real? It may be easy to detect ridiculous leaks but what about leaks as convincing as this that everyone's talking about? Other fansites like Serebii believe it. But how do we know when a leak is real? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 22:47, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
:::When the issue is published, we will know it's real. That's fairly obvious. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 22:51, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
::::Don't forget, Diancie is getting a mega too. --[[User:SuperPikaBros|Super]][[User talk:SuperPikaBros|Pika]][[Special:Contributions/SuperPikaBros|Bros]] 23:14, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, the first Mega Evolution of a Kalos Pokémon. When is the issue actually coming out? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 23:23, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
::::::The 13th. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 23:27, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
If True, this also would make Diancie the only Pokémon so far to have a Mega form that isn't in Gens I-IV. Gen V still has no Megas as of yet.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 23:36, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
:So what is a faster way to determine it's authenticity? I don't want to wait 6 days. I want the information here now! [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 00:05, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
::Being impatient isn't going to make it come faster. You have to wait, that is life.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:07, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
:::Well, looks like the images have been posted on the Archives and my article was published on Bulbanews. It now looks as if Bulbagarden has accepted the leak as official. Question is, is Bulbapedia? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 14:41, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
::::Well, it is CoroCoro so the information might be correct, but the impact of speculations has risen since the first trailer. Probably because of that. [[User:KidGuardian|KidGuardian]] ([[User talk:KidGuardian|talk]]) 14:46, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
:::::Is Bulbapedia simply stricter about speculation than the other parts of Bulbagarden? The archives provide our images and the notice at the top of this page points to the Bulbagarden Forums. Bulbanews headlines are on the main page. Bulbapedia is closer to Bulbagarden than to the NIWA and Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis. Yet, Bulbanews, the forums and the Archives have already decided that it's real. Although the forums are about speculation and accepted it first, maybe they don't count. But since the News published my article and the Archives restored Coro Coro images, I'm believing they are believing the scan. In fact the Archives temporarily deleted those scans until they can be proven real. However, they may have just restored them for my [[n:CoroCoro leaks for July 2014 issue revealed|news article]]? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 02:35, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
::::::As I just said in the Mega Evolution talk page, we aren't treating this as official just yet as the leaks were leaked earlier than usual. They usually leak on the 10th of every month--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:40, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
:::::::But according to "Ataro" in a few post above, the release date for CoroCoro this month is on the 13th (not sure if its accurate or not). Usually CoroCoro comes out on the 15th or 16th isn't it, and the leaks gets out starting from around 10th of the month. But, if the release date is early then possibly even the leaks would be out earlier. Also, this wouldn't be the first time that CoroCoro leaks are out before 10th of a month.--[[User:LatS|LatS]] ([[User talk:LatS|talk]]) 11:40, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
::::::::Happens a lot actually of magazines. Scanned manga's that come out every week are actually one week ahead while their official release is after one week in Japan. Probably they caught a early copy from the issue. '''''[[User:KidGuardian|Kid]][[User talk:KidGuardian|Guardian]]''''' 00:59, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

[http://www.siliconera.com/2014/06/10/pokemon-omega-ruby-pokemon-alpha-sapphire-release-date-announced/ Official trailer for the games], the scans are definitely legit. The new Megas and character designs are featured. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 17:58, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

== E3 2014 Announcement ==

So a new trailer for ORAS was released yesterday as part of E3 2014. It showed a lot more content, confirmed the CoroCoro leak, and displayed several bits of gameplay, including apparent Mega Evolutions for Groudon & Kyogre, in which their markings glow prominently to match their boxart artwork. I feel that this information should be added to the article, since the trailer seen was official, and therefore verifiable information from a reliable source. Since I am not permitted to edit the ''OmegaRuby & AlphaSapphire'' article, I ask that someone with access to editing add this information in.
[[User:Bowserbros|Bowserbros]] ([[User talk:Bowserbros|talk]]) 18:36, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

== Pokemon.com Screenshots ==

So the official ORAS site up on Pokemon.com has a plethora of screenshots you lot can add to this article.--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] ([[User talk:Darknesslover5000|talk]]) 01:19, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
:Many of these screenshots have been uploaded to the Archives already, haven't been added to the article yet. I'll try to add some soon. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 01:29, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

== Release date for Australia ==

I really don't see any official source in which states it's release date for Australia. The Nintendo Australia website does not have the game listed anywhere, so we don't even know what the actual release date for Australia really is. EB Games isn't a reliable source when it comes to release dates, 'cause they often will get the release dates from sites like Wikipedia or even from here.

Until Nintendo Australia confirms it's release date, I really do think we should change the release date for Australia to '''November 2014'''.[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 18:41, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
:The Australian version of [http://www.pokemonrubysapphire.com/en-au/ the official site] clearly says "Coming November 21, 2014!"--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 18:53, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

== Change in infobox ==

Should the info in the infobox be changed from:
"Pokémon Omega Ruby's boxart, featuring Groudon"
to:
"Pokémon Omega Ruby's boxart, featuring Primal Groudon"
and also in the case of Primal Kyogre? Thanks.
[[User:Dinodestroyer|Dinodestroyer]] ([[User talk:Dinodestroyer|talk]]) 19:07, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

== Add trivia section? ==

I have a few things to add now

-These are the second pairs of games to not have "version" at the end.

-These are the second remakes after the Game Corner controversy

-These are the first remakes after the Pokémon Center and Pokémart being merged

I could think of a few more, but these will do.

[[User:SuperShroom63|SuperShroom63]] ([[User talk:SuperShroom63|talk]]) 01:52, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
:The first two aren't notable. In the case of the last one, images seem to have shown that the Poké Mart and Pokémon Center are no longer merged, so imo, it doesn't seem too notable. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 01:57, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
::Oh, this is the first pair of remakes with [insert change made in [[Generation V]] or [[Generation VI]]]! Yeah, not too notable. Although, if there were anything that were notable, this will be the first pair of remakes with {{type|Fairy}} Pokémon and [[Mega Evolution]]s. [[User:Black Metal Warrior|Black Metal Warrior]] ([[User talk:Black Metal Warrior|talk]]) 22:53, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
:::FireRed and LeafGreen were the first pair of remakes to have Steel type Pokémon, but we don't note that. It should be obvious.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 23:40, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

== "To" to "for". ==

I noticed the article says "... Steven Stone, the Mach Bike, and the Acro Bike will return '''to''' the first time since...", when I presume that "for" is meant to be in there instead of "to." Would someone fix this for me, please? [[User:Uncle Edit|He's here! The one and only...Uncle Edit!]] ([[User talk:Uncle Edit|talk]]) 03:19, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
:Corrected. Thanks for pointing that out. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 03:26, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

== Not all Mega Evolutions are on this page that have been revealed ==
Mega Salamence, Mega Metagross, Mega Altaria, and Mega Lopunny all need to be mention after Mega Sableye.--[[User:Hydreigonfan1|Hydreigonfan1]] ([[User talk:Hydreigonfan1|talk]]) 11:13, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
:Taken care of. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 12:43, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
::But they weren't revealed in July issue, only in August, it should be noted in the new paragraph, with the return of Horde Encounters, new Pikachu forms... [[User:Asmod96|Asmod96]] ([[User talk:Asmod96|talk]]) 15:00, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
:::To chime in on this discussion without making another section, it has been a few days since Mega Sharpedo, Mega Gallade, and Mega Camerupt were revealed. Are the admins waiting for confirmation from, for example, Pokemon.com before this makes it into the article? If the CoroCoro leak from this month is enough confirmation, could somebody with access add this to the article? [[User:Superbreeder|Super]][[User talk:Superbreeder|breeder]] 19:27, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

== More Mega Evolutions? ==

Yesterday, the official Pokémon website of Korea accidentally revealed two new mega evolution Pokémon; Mega Slowbro and Mega Audino. Many people like myself questioned if this was real or a scam. It's the official Pokémon site of Korea. More information will come as we get it.
{{unsigned|DJMander}}

== Another Mega Evo Tidbit ==

Sorry to add onto the trend of mentioning the new megas, but currently the paragraph states at least eight Mega Evolutions and then lists ten. I'd fix it myself but of course I can't so could someone just do that for me XD [[User:Azure42|Azure/ChromeVoid42]] ([[User talk:Azure42|talk]]) 18:24, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

== No Steven Stone since Emerald? ==

Um, didn't he appear in B2W2 as a Champion? [[User:Starscream|Starscream]] ([[User talk:Starscream|talk]]) 23:13, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

== Multilingual ==

Could someone add that Nintendo HK and Taiwan have both confirmed the games will (like X/Y) contain all languages on the one card? http://www.nintendo.tw/pressrelease/3ds_20140915oras.htm http://www.nintendo.com.hk/pressrelease/3ds_20140915oras.htm Nowhere seems to have picked up on this, probably because only Nintendo HK/TW bothered to clarify this (since only HK and TW are in a region of their own, without having a local translation). - [[User:BZD|BZD]] ([[User talk:BZD|talk]]) 03:43, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

==Ratings==
The ACB has put up their ratings: [http://www.classification.gov.au/Pages/View.aspx?sid=iuCjUqkFCF6wGgGVuaGmQQ%253d%253d&ncdctx=5HghR30dUhtOc%252fysBQXehvRbWeAhT8S4Y6t4otMG1OPPQsqEgBN79aTC4EFKrSpt Omega Ruby] and [http://www.classification.gov.au/Pages/View.aspx?sid=KgrINBSv5pEmVtrSEn54Rw%253d%253d&ncdctx=5HghR30dUhtOc%252fysBQXeho7s65RvpUipwXyeqAqiiWKxbU3ep%252fT2e2svoiXEbxY6 Alpha Sapphire]. [[User:Glik|glik]][[User talk:Glik|glak]] 01:30, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

== Noteworthy Trivia? ==

I know remake trivia is usually ignored, but I think it would be good to add that Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire are the first remakes (Of course, not counting things like Emerald or Platinum) to not feature the original mascot? [[User:ArtistKyurem|ArtistKyurem]] ([[User talk:ArtistKyurem|talk]]) 02:59, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
:It's still Groudon and Kyogre, just in primal reversion. So no, it's not true nor notable (since there's only three pairs, which is too small of a group).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:09, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

== Demo version link ==

I think a link to the [[Pokémon Omega Ruby and Pokémon Alpha Sapphire Special Demo Version]] should be ''somewhere'' on this page... Maybe just in a See also section at the bottom. Or possibly even as part of [[Template:Core series]]. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:20, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
:I'm sure when proper information is begun to be added to the page, there will be a section for the demo. --[[User:S2daam|--samm :D]] 20:39, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
::Why not just unlock the page? [[User:Glik|glik]][[User talk:Glik|glak]] 20:54, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
:::I'd guess they will tomorrow so those of us who can edit can get to work? --[[User:S2daam|--samm :D]] 21:17, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

== "Display" to "Cosplay" ==

It looks like in the Blurb section it says "Pikachu likes to display?!" but on the box it says "Pikachu likes to cosplay?!" I assume this is a typo? --[[User:ArceusVsMew|avm :^)]] ([[User talk:ArceusVsMew|talk]]) 19:16, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
:That was my autocorrect. [[User:Glik|glik]][[User talk:Glik|glak]] 19:26, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
::Ah, okay. --avm :^) 19:35, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

== Prof. Birch chase ==

The page should be edited to note that Prof. Birch is chased by a Shroomish when you get a Johto starter and not a Poochyena. [[User:Hellopio|Hellopio]] ([[User talk:Hellopio|talk]]) 23:16, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

== Split ==

Please split the "Changes from Ruby & Sapphire" with '''Aesthetic changes''', '''Location changes''' and '''Gameplay changes --[[User:HoopsterJohn|HoopsterJohn]] ([[User talk:HoopsterJohn|talk]]) 00:17, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
:Agreed. It's looking a tad overloaded at the moment. Probably a subsection for move changes (TM/HM,) unless that can also be considered a gameplay change. --[[User:Templar|templar]][[User_talk:Templar|(stalk)]] 13:35, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

== Access to the Team Magma/Aqua Hideout after beating Tate and Lisa. ==

Iirc, it's blocked off after getting the Gym Badge from Tate and Lisa in Ruby/Sapphire, but it's possible to get items from the hideout even after defeating them in ORAS, regardless of whether it's before beating the Elite Four + Champion, or during the Delta Episode. This is likely to be due to elements in the Delta Episode which require access to it, but perhaps it can be mentioned under "Changes", as well?

It wasn't very obvious to me, until I accidentally returned to the hideout just before getting the gym badge from Wallace. -- [[User:Templar|templar]][[User_talk:Templar|(stalk)]] 13:42, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire

2014-12-07T13:35:31Z

Templar: /* Split */

Talk:Totodile (Pokémon)

2014-12-07T13:17:49Z

Templar: I'm an idiot.

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==Picture==
Look, the picture of Totodile from Emerald doesnt look very good to me. I think we should change it back to the GSC one. Chikorita and Cyndaquil have their GSC pics there, so wouldnt it make sense to have them all the same? [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 22:37, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah It does make sense to have them all the same but it also makes sense to use the most recent artwork and I'm pretty sure Chikorita and Cyndaquil never got new artwork since GSC. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 22:41, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
:They did, but I dont think they've been uploaded. so can i change it?[[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 22:48, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Well I dont know, I have no more authority than you do, but the other starters didnt recieve new artwork since GSC only a select few such as Ledyba, Hoothoot, pichu, cleffa, igglybuff and a few others got new artwork. in my opinion I think it should stay with the more updated artwork but i guess you can do what you want.

Most Johto's pokemon artwork is out dated, yet another reason for them to do a remake... --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 22:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Speaking of pics, the "in the anime" section pic isn't all that great, so I'll try to find another on the archives.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 04:26, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I put it on there.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 04:32, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

== The new HeartGold and SoulSilver art for Totodile ==

Something is wrong with Totodile's artwork on the page. When you load, it shows up blank with the red question mark and then the whole thing disappears. Can someone fix this? - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Dialgafan1}} ([[User talk:Dialgafan1|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dialgafan1|contribs]]) ''
:Server issues are causing images to work bad. Don't worry about it. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 23:02, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
::Now the pic is blurry...and bigger than the Cyndaquil and Chikorita ones... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:58, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

==Mothers and Such==
"Immediately upon hatching, the mother will take her newborn brood down to the water to swim and hunt. Despite their strength, young Totodile stay close to their mother for quite some time."

I'm sorry but what? I'd love to see a source for this, since I don't think I've read it in any official medium. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 22:31, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

People seem to think that if the creature that a Pokémon is based on does something, the Pokémon does it too. This was a problem with Typhlosion and Charizard. Just get rid of it if you haven't already. [[User:Poisson14|Poisson14]] 22:51, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

== GS Sprite ==

The Gold/Silver sprite from Totodile has a red stripe on it's head, the sprites from later games don't have this stripe anymore. Has nobody seen this? {{unsigned|Alexjuuhh}}
:It's just a normal line showing the curvature of Totodile's face. The color limitations of the Gen II games make it red instead of a more fitting color. The same sort of issues happen with almost every Gen II sprite. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 11:13, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

== Different scipt in Red and Blue Rescue Team? ==

I noticed this last time that I played Pokemon Mystery dungeon Blue Rescue Team, The Totodile partner has a tougher sound to his text. It's different than the other partners I've had so far... Has anyone else noticed? Or is it worth adding? [[User:Equidna rojo|Equidna rojo]] 03:46, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

== Emerald Sprite ==

Any one notice the Emerald sprite has red back scales instead of the normal. Then in FireRed/LeafGreen it goes back to using the Ruby/Sapphire sprite with the correct scale color? Dunno if that's tiva worthy just wondering since other errors have been noted ([Roconza] 23:09, 7 February 2011 (UTC))
:It was there before, but it was removed due to being sprite trivia. And it isn't really correct to say if went "back" to the old colors in FRLG since Emerald was released ''after'' them. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:08, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

== Totobreeding ==
Since we have Flatter down, Totodile still has Aqua Jet, Crunch and Water Pulse as Egg Moves in X/Y. I don't know how to add that, though. I found out whilst trying to see if it could get Aura Sphere like Squirtle bizarrely can, because I'm weird like that (it doesn't). [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 14:42, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Oh yeah, those come from Clawitzer (Aqua Jet and Water Pulse) and Feraligatr (Crunch). [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 14:44, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
:Added Aqua Jet and Water Pulse; Crunch it likely still learns by level up. And Squirtle can learn Aura Sphere and all the Pulse moves because of its Hidden Ability. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 15:52, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
:Oh, do we not include moves that can also be learned by level-up? Okay, noted. Thank you~! [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 17:07, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
::We do include moves learned by level-up as egg moves if that move is passed down when only one parent knows it. If your XY!Totodile hatched with Crunch when just one parent knew Crunch, then it should be added to the egg move list. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 17:53, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
I just bred my Totodile with a Tirtouga and learned that Totodile can inherit ancientpower as well. 14 March 2014 {{unsigned|Goldenpearl}}

== ORAS Learnset? ==

<s>Good day! Please pardon me if I'm not supposed to ask here -- I intend to eventually make constructive edits to articles here, but I worry that I might break formatting / do something I'm not supposed to.

I've seen some ORAS learnsets on some other pages, specifically on Pokemon introduced in Gen III. I noticed that the Learnset for a Totodile received from Professor Birch in AS seems to differ from the currently displayed Gen VI learnset. Is it too early to edit this in, or can I go for it? Thank you very much in advance!</s>

'''EDIT:''' Please disregard; I just noticed after further leveling that the current listed learnset also applies in AS. I mistakenly thought it had Water Gun and Rage as starting moves because I didn't pay attention until it hit Level 10. Sorry! -- [[User:Templar|templar]][[User_talk:Templar|(stalk)]] 13:17, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Totodile (Pokémon)

2014-12-07T06:55:33Z

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==Picture==
Look, the picture of Totodile from Emerald doesnt look very good to me. I think we should change it back to the GSC one. Chikorita and Cyndaquil have their GSC pics there, so wouldnt it make sense to have them all the same? [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 22:37, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah It does make sense to have them all the same but it also makes sense to use the most recent artwork and I'm pretty sure Chikorita and Cyndaquil never got new artwork since GSC. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 22:41, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
:They did, but I dont think they've been uploaded. so can i change it?[[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 22:48, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Well I dont know, I have no more authority than you do, but the other starters didnt recieve new artwork since GSC only a select few such as Ledyba, Hoothoot, pichu, cleffa, igglybuff and a few others got new artwork. in my opinion I think it should stay with the more updated artwork but i guess you can do what you want.

Most Johto's pokemon artwork is out dated, yet another reason for them to do a remake... --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 22:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Speaking of pics, the "in the anime" section pic isn't all that great, so I'll try to find another on the archives.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 04:26, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I put it on there.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 04:32, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

== The new HeartGold and SoulSilver art for Totodile ==

Something is wrong with Totodile's artwork on the page. When you load, it shows up blank with the red question mark and then the whole thing disappears. Can someone fix this? - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Dialgafan1}} ([[User talk:Dialgafan1|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dialgafan1|contribs]]) ''
:Server issues are causing images to work bad. Don't worry about it. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 23:02, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
::Now the pic is blurry...and bigger than the Cyndaquil and Chikorita ones... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:58, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

==Mothers and Such==
"Immediately upon hatching, the mother will take her newborn brood down to the water to swim and hunt. Despite their strength, young Totodile stay close to their mother for quite some time."

I'm sorry but what? I'd love to see a source for this, since I don't think I've read it in any official medium. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 22:31, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

People seem to think that if the creature that a Pokémon is based on does something, the Pokémon does it too. This was a problem with Typhlosion and Charizard. Just get rid of it if you haven't already. [[User:Poisson14|Poisson14]] 22:51, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

== GS Sprite ==

The Gold/Silver sprite from Totodile has a red stripe on it's head, the sprites from later games don't have this stripe anymore. Has nobody seen this? {{unsigned|Alexjuuhh}}
:It's just a normal line showing the curvature of Totodile's face. The color limitations of the Gen II games make it red instead of a more fitting color. The same sort of issues happen with almost every Gen II sprite. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 11:13, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

== Different scipt in Red and Blue Rescue Team? ==

I noticed this last time that I played Pokemon Mystery dungeon Blue Rescue Team, The Totodile partner has a tougher sound to his text. It's different than the other partners I've had so far... Has anyone else noticed? Or is it worth adding? [[User:Equidna rojo|Equidna rojo]] 03:46, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

== Emerald Sprite ==

Any one notice the Emerald sprite has red back scales instead of the normal. Then in FireRed/LeafGreen it goes back to using the Ruby/Sapphire sprite with the correct scale color? Dunno if that's tiva worthy just wondering since other errors have been noted ([Roconza] 23:09, 7 February 2011 (UTC))
:It was there before, but it was removed due to being sprite trivia. And it isn't really correct to say if went "back" to the old colors in FRLG since Emerald was released ''after'' them. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:08, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

== Totobreeding ==
Since we have Flatter down, Totodile still has Aqua Jet, Crunch and Water Pulse as Egg Moves in X/Y. I don't know how to add that, though. I found out whilst trying to see if it could get Aura Sphere like Squirtle bizarrely can, because I'm weird like that (it doesn't). [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 14:42, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Oh yeah, those come from Clawitzer (Aqua Jet and Water Pulse) and Feraligatr (Crunch). [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 14:44, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
:Added Aqua Jet and Water Pulse; Crunch it likely still learns by level up. And Squirtle can learn Aura Sphere and all the Pulse moves because of its Hidden Ability. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 15:52, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
:Oh, do we not include moves that can also be learned by level-up? Okay, noted. Thank you~! [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 17:07, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
::We do include moves learned by level-up as egg moves if that move is passed down when only one parent knows it. If your XY!Totodile hatched with Crunch when just one parent knew Crunch, then it should be added to the egg move list. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 17:53, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
I just bred my Totodile with a Tirtouga and learned that Totodile can inherit ancientpower as well. 14 March 2014 {{unsigned|Goldenpearl}}

== ORAS Learnset? ==

Good day! Please pardon me if I'm not supposed to ask here -- I intend to eventually make constructive edits to articles here, but I worry that I might break formatting / do something I'm not supposed to.

I've seen some ORAS learnsets on some other pages, specifically on Pokemon introduced in Gen III. I noticed that the Learnset for a Totodile received from Professor Birch in AS seems to differ from the currently displayed Gen VI learnset. Is it too early to edit this in, or can I go for it? Thank you very much in advance!

So far: 
Level 13: [[Bite]] 
Level 15: [[Scary Face]] --[[User:Templar|Templar]] ([[User talk:Templar|talk]]) 06:55, 7 December 2014 (UTC)