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Talk:Palmer

2009-05-28T23:58:48Z

T65D: /* Palmer's Rhyperior */

== Brother or Father ==

Is he your rival's brother or father?--[[User:DSDark|DSDark]] 16:25, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

His father. He refers to your rival as his son.--[[User:Angerman|Angerman]] 03:31, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

== Volkner? ==
Do you think Volkner is related to them somehow?

Oh yea, they do look a lot alike. [[User:Theryguy512|Ryguy]] 10:34, 19 August 2007 (EST)

:There's nothing canon, though. In fact, there is just as valid speculation that he is the father of the player's character. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 14:45, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

::They are obviously related. Look at both of their pictures:
{|
!Palmer
!Volkner
|-
|[[Image:Palmer.jpg]]
|[[Image:Volkner2.PNG]]
|}
Look at how similar they look! --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 14:50, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

:::Fanon speculation, not article-worthy.

BTW, where exactly in the game does he refer to Rival as his son? [[User:Jonah|Jonah]] 17:15, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

In the time right before you fight him as the 21st trainer at the [[Battle Tower]], or your first match with him. He says you played with <rival's name> while you guys were children and then he makes a reference to the rival being his son. Maybe you just mashed B when you first fought him? [[User:Angerman|Angerman]] 04:37, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

:No, he says it DURING the battle, not before the battle. About that whole Volkner-Palmer thing, it's a pure fanwank. It's not worthy to be in article. There are many characters that look alike in Pokémon. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 08:32, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
::I'd say it's a possibility, but nothing more. --[[User:juunannio|juunannio]] 19:47, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

:He does say Pearl (Tyson, in my case) is his son, quite clearly. I can't quote it word for word, but it's before the 21st battle. I'd know, being right in that battle now. >_>--[[User:The Last Sheikah|The Last Sheikah]] 08:11, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Do you want his dialouge? Wait....

Before Battle

Hi!
My name's Palmer.
I remember you from when you were in Twinleaf, <player>.
You were always playing with my son <rival>, right?
You've grown up since then, and most impressively, too!
So, I'd like you to show me.
Show me the bond you've built with your Pokémon.
Show me the skill you've acquired as a Trainer!
[[User:Angerman|Angerman]] 01:39, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

== Palmer's Rhyperior ==

I think there's a strong possibility that its Abilily cannot be Solid Rock. That's all I'm going to say on this so far, as it is of little consequence. --[[User:juunannio|juunannio]] 19:53, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I'm pretty sure it's ability IS solid rock, seeing as I just fought it and my Gardevior has Trace as it's ability and said Gardevior traced Solid Rock.
Unless this is like the changing genders issue that some other people had with Palmer's pokemon, I'm pretty sure it has Solid Rock. T65D --[[User:T65D|T65D]] 23:58, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

:another thing i noticed is rhyperior's gender. when i fought palmer, it was female. -- [[User:scyphozoa7|scyphozoa7]] 21:07, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

== Genders ==
after reading the above comment, and the fact that about 5 mins ago, i battled him, ive come to the conclusion that Palmer's pokemon change genders, sounds weird, i know, but, the kid above says Rhyperior was female, mine was male. the article says Milotic is male, mine was female. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:51, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Palmer cheats during the second fight against him...He's using Legendaries, but you're stuck with regular Pokémon.... [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 17:53, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
:Palmer does not cheat. His second-fight team is {{p|Heatran}}, {{p|Regigigas}}, and {{p|Cresselia}}. None of them are banned from usage in the Battle Tower.

:If Palmer were to be cheating, his team would have to be {{p|Dialga}}, {{p|Palkia}}, and {{p|Giratina}}, or some other combination of three banned legendaries...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:03, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
::Oh, I thought that those ones were on the list of Banned Pokémon for the Battle Tower. My mistake. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:52, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

== Double battles? ==

Does Palmer appear if you do double battles, or does he only appear in single battles? Also, to make him appear after 21 wins, do you have to just get a 7 trainer winning streak 3 times (3 battles) or do you have to get a 7 trainer streak 21 times? [[User:Zapdos|Zapdos]] 01:54, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
:I assume it'd mean 3 passes through. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 02:02, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
::I'd assume that too, but I had 39 straight double battle victories and I am yet to fight Palmer. -- [[User:The dark lord trombonator|SeriousDom]] 03:17, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Only Single. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 06:09, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

==Any evidence he is married with rivals mother?==
? [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 11:52, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Because why not? I think it's more far likely they're married than just "having a son". It's Pokémon World, where everything is perfect, including love. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 17:43, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Just "having a son" doesn't make much sense... yeah, why WOULDN"T they be married?--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 10:35, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Palmer

2009-05-28T23:53:46Z

T65D: /* Palmer's Rhyperior */

== Brother or Father ==

Is he your rival's brother or father?--[[User:DSDark|DSDark]] 16:25, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

His father. He refers to your rival as his son.--[[User:Angerman|Angerman]] 03:31, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

== Volkner? ==
Do you think Volkner is related to them somehow?

Oh yea, they do look a lot alike. [[User:Theryguy512|Ryguy]] 10:34, 19 August 2007 (EST)

:There's nothing canon, though. In fact, there is just as valid speculation that he is the father of the player's character. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 14:45, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

::They are obviously related. Look at both of their pictures:
{|
!Palmer
!Volkner
|-
|[[Image:Palmer.jpg]]
|[[Image:Volkner2.PNG]]
|}
Look at how similar they look! --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 14:50, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

:::Fanon speculation, not article-worthy.

BTW, where exactly in the game does he refer to Rival as his son? [[User:Jonah|Jonah]] 17:15, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

In the time right before you fight him as the 21st trainer at the [[Battle Tower]], or your first match with him. He says you played with <rival's name> while you guys were children and then he makes a reference to the rival being his son. Maybe you just mashed B when you first fought him? [[User:Angerman|Angerman]] 04:37, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

:No, he says it DURING the battle, not before the battle. About that whole Volkner-Palmer thing, it's a pure fanwank. It's not worthy to be in article. There are many characters that look alike in Pokémon. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 08:32, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
::I'd say it's a possibility, but nothing more. --[[User:juunannio|juunannio]] 19:47, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

:He does say Pearl (Tyson, in my case) is his son, quite clearly. I can't quote it word for word, but it's before the 21st battle. I'd know, being right in that battle now. >_>--[[User:The Last Sheikah|The Last Sheikah]] 08:11, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Do you want his dialouge? Wait....

Before Battle

Hi!
My name's Palmer.
I remember you from when you were in Twinleaf, <player>.
You were always playing with my son <rival>, right?
You've grown up since then, and most impressively, too!
So, I'd like you to show me.
Show me the bond you've built with your Pokémon.
Show me the skill you've acquired as a Trainer!
[[User:Angerman|Angerman]] 01:39, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

== Palmer's Rhyperior ==

I think there's a strong possibility that its Abilily cannot be Solid Rock. That's all I'm going to say on this so far, as it is of little consequence. --[[User:juunannio|juunannio]] 19:53, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I'm pretty sure it's ability IS solid rock, seeing as I just fought it and my Gardevior has Trace as it's ability and said Gardevior traced Solid Rock.
Unless this is like the changing genders issue that some other people had with Palmer's pokemon, I'm pretty sure it has Solid Rock.

:another thing i noticed is rhyperior's gender. when i fought palmer, it was female. -- [[User:scyphozoa7|scyphozoa7]] 21:07, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

== Genders ==
after reading the above comment, and the fact that about 5 mins ago, i battled him, ive come to the conclusion that Palmer's pokemon change genders, sounds weird, i know, but, the kid above says Rhyperior was female, mine was male. the article says Milotic is male, mine was female. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:51, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Palmer cheats during the second fight against him...He's using Legendaries, but you're stuck with regular Pokémon.... [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 17:53, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
:Palmer does not cheat. His second-fight team is {{p|Heatran}}, {{p|Regigigas}}, and {{p|Cresselia}}. None of them are banned from usage in the Battle Tower.

:If Palmer were to be cheating, his team would have to be {{p|Dialga}}, {{p|Palkia}}, and {{p|Giratina}}, or some other combination of three banned legendaries...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:03, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
::Oh, I thought that those ones were on the list of Banned Pokémon for the Battle Tower. My mistake. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:52, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

== Double battles? ==

Does Palmer appear if you do double battles, or does he only appear in single battles? Also, to make him appear after 21 wins, do you have to just get a 7 trainer winning streak 3 times (3 battles) or do you have to get a 7 trainer streak 21 times? [[User:Zapdos|Zapdos]] 01:54, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
:I assume it'd mean 3 passes through. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 02:02, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
::I'd assume that too, but I had 39 straight double battle victories and I am yet to fight Palmer. -- [[User:The dark lord trombonator|SeriousDom]] 03:17, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Only Single. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 06:09, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

==Any evidence he is married with rivals mother?==
? [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 11:52, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Because why not? I think it's more far likely they're married than just "having a son". It's Pokémon World, where everything is perfect, including love. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 17:43, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Just "having a son" doesn't make much sense... yeah, why WOULDN"T they be married?--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 10:35, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Palmer

2009-05-28T23:45:53Z

T65D: /* Silver Print challenge */

{{CharacterInfobox|
name=Palmer |
jname=クロツグ |
tmname=Kurotsugu |
image=[[Image:Palmer.png|200px]] |
caption=Art from Diamond/Pearl|
gender=Male |
hometown=[[Twinleaf Town]]|
region=[[Sinnoh]] |
relatives={{ga|Pearl}} (son), unnamed wife |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Tower Tycoon]] ([[Frontier Brain]]) |
numpkmncaught=Varies with canon |
game=yes |
generation={{Gen|IV}} |
games={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}} |
leader=no |
brain=Pt |
facility=Battle Tower |
print=Tower Print|
anime=no |
}}

'''Tower Tycoon Palmer''' (Japanese: '''タワータイクーンクロツグ''' ''Tower Tycoon Kurotsugu'') is the leader of the {{si|Battle Tower}} in {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}, and the Frontier Brain of the same facility in {{game|Platinum}}. He is {{ga|Pearl}}'s father. Palmer is very similar to his son in look and character, as he's always in a rush. Just like the {{player}} and Pearl did, he once went to a lake with the player's father, got his [[starter Pokémon]] there, and was attacked by [[wild Pokémon]].

==In the games==
===Pokémon Diamond and Pearl===
====On 21st consecutive battle====
{{PartyHeader|color={{diamond color}}|sprite=SpritePalmer.png|prize=20[[Battle Point|BP]]|class=[[Tower Tycoon]]|name=Palmer|game={{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}|location=[[Battle Tower (Sinnoh)|Battle Tower]]}}
{{PartyBody43|
color={{pearl color}}|

sprite1=Spr 4d 350_f.png|
p1=Milotic|
ability1=Marvel Scale|
item1=[[Salac Berry]]|
gender1=|
level1=50|
types1=1|
type11=Water|
p1m1=Hypnosis|p1m1t=Psychic|p1m1c=Status|
p1m2=Dragon Pulse|p1m2t=Dragon|p1m2c=Special|
p1m3=Hydro Pump|p1m3t=Water|p1m3c=Special|
p1m4=Recover|p1m4t=Normal|p1m4c=Status|

sprite2=Spr 4d 464_m.png|
p2=Rhyperior|
ability2=Solid Rock|
item2=[[Expert Belt]]|
gender2=|
level2=50|
types2=2|
type12=Ground|type22=Rock|
p2m1=Flamethrower|p2m1t=Fire|p2m1c=Special|
p2m2=Thunderbolt|p2m2t=Electric|p2m2c=Special|
p2m3=Ice Beam|p2m3t=Ice|p2m3c=Special|
p2m4=Rock Wrecker|p2m4t=Rock|p2m4c=Physical|

sprite3=Spr 4d 149.png|
p3=Dragonite|
ability3=Inner Focus|
item3=[[Wide Lens]]|
level3=50|
gender3=|
types3=2|
type13=Dragon|type23=Flying|
p3m1=Stone Edge|p3m1t=Rock|p3m1c=Physical|
p3m2=Dragon Rush|p3m2t=Dragon|p3m2c=Physical|
p3m3=Aqua Tail|p3m3t=Water|p3m3c=Physical|
p3m4=Iron Tail|p3m4t=Steel|p3m4c=Physical
}}
{{PartyFooter|color={{diamond color}}}}

====On 49th consecutive battle====
{{PartyHeader|color={{pearl color}}|sprite=SpritePalmer.png|prize=20[[Battle Point|BP]]|class=[[Tower Tycoon]]|name=Palmer|game={{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}|location=[[Battle Tower (Sinnoh)|Battle Tower]]}}
{{PartyBody43|
color={{diamond color}}|

sprite1=Spr 4d 485.png|
p1=Heatran|
ability1=Flash Fire|
item1=[[BrightPowder]]|
gender1=|
level1=50|
types1=2|
type11=Fire|type21=Steel|
p1m1=Dark Pulse|p1m1t=Dark|p1m1c=Special|
p1m2=Magma Storm|p1m2t=Fire|p1m2c=Special|
p1m3=Flash Cannon|p1m3t=Steel|p1m3c=Special|
p1m4=Explosion|p1m4t=Normal|p1m4c=Physical|

sprite2=Spr 4d 486.png|
p2=Regigigas|
ability2=Slow Start|
item2=[[Chople Berry]]|
gender2=|
level2=50|
types2=1|
type12=Normal|
p2m1=Stone Edge|p2m1t=Rock|p2m1c=Physical|
p2m2=Ice Punch|p2m2t=Ice|p2m2c=Physical|
p2m3=Crush Grip|p2m3t=Normal|p2m3c=Physical|
p2m4=Brick Break|p2m4t=Fighting|p2m4c=Physical|

sprite3=Spr 4d 488.png|
p3=Cresselia|
ability3=Levitate|
item3=[[Leftovers]]|
level3=50|
gender3=♀|
types3=1|
type13=Psychic|
p3m1=Shadow Ball|p3m1t=Ghost|p3m1c=Special|
p3m2=Psychic|p3m2t=Psychic|p3m2c=Special|
p3m3=Calm Mind|p3m3t=Psychic|p3m3c=Status|
p3m4=Moonlight|p3m4t=Normal|p3m4c=Status|
}}
{{PartyFooter|color={{pearl color}}}}

===Pokémon Platinum===
====Silver Print challenge====
{{PartyHeader|color={{tower color}}|sprite=PalmerPlatinum.gif|prize={{color2|{{tower color dark}}|Battle Point|20 BP}}|class={{color2|{{tower color dark}}|Tower Tycoon}}|name={{color|{{tower color dark}}|Palmer}}|game={{color2|{{tower color dark}}|Pokémon Platinum Version|Platinum}}|location={{color2|{{tower color dark}}|Battle Frontier (Sinnoh)|Battle Tower}}}}
{{PartyBody43|
color={{tower color}}|
sprite1=Spr 4p 350_f.png|
p1=Milotic|
ability1=Marvel Scale|
item1=[[Shell Bell]]|
gender1=|
level1=50|
types1=1|
type11=Water|
p1m1=Hypnosis|p1m1t=Psychic|p1m1c=Status|
p1m2=Ice Beam|p1m2t=Ice|p1m2c=Special|
p1m3=Surf|p1m3t=Water|p1m3c=Special|
p1m4=Attract|p1m4t=Normal|p1m4c=Status|

sprite2=Spr 4p 464_m.png|
p2=Rhyperior|
ability2=Solid Rock|
item2=[[Focus Band]]|
gender2=|
level2=50|
types2=2|
type12=Ground|type22=Rock|
p2m1=Crunch|p2m1t=Dark|p2m1c=Physical|
p2m2=Earthquake|p2m2t=Ground|p2m2c=Physical|
p2m3=Roar|p2m3t=Normal|p2m3c=Status|
p2m4=Rock Wrecker|p2m4t=Rock|p2m4c=Physical|

sprite3=Spr 4d 149.png|
p3=Dragonite|
ability3=Inner Focus|
item3=[[Lum Berry]]|
level3=50|
gender3=|
types3=2|
type13=Dragon|type23=Flying|
p3m1=Dragon Dance|p3m1t=Dragon|p3m1c=Status|
p3m2=Dragon Claw|p3m2t=Dragon|p3m2c=Physical|
p3m3=Aerial Ace|p3m3t=Flying|p3m3c=Physical|
p3m4=Thunder Wave|p3m4t=Electric|p3m4c=Status
}}
{{PartyFooter|color={{tower color}}}}

====Gold Print challenge====
{{PartyHeader|color={{tower color}}|sprite=PalmerPlatinum.gif|prize={{color2|{{tower color dark}}|Battle Point|20 BP}}|class={{color2|{{tower color dark}}|Tower Tycoon}}|name={{color|{{tower color dark}}|Palmer}}|game={{color2|{{tower color dark}}|Pokémon Platinum Version|Platinum}}|location={{color2|{{tower color dark}}|Battle Frontier (Sinnoh)|Battle Tower}}}}
{{PartyBody43|

sprite1=Spr 4p 486.png|
p1=Regigigas|
ability1=Slow Start|
item1=[[Chople Berry]]|
gender1=|
level1=50|
types1=1|
type11=Normal|
p1m1=Stone Edge|p1m1t=Rock|p1m1c=Physical|
p1m2=Earthquake|p1m2t=Ground|p1m2c=Physical|
p1m3=Crush Grip|p1m3t=Normal|p1m3c=Physical|
p1m4=Drain Punch|p1m4t=Fighting|p1m4c=Physical|

color={{tower color}}|
sprite2=Spr 4p 485.png|
p2=Heatran|
ability2=Flash Fire|
item2=[[Focus Sash]]|
gender2=|
level2=50|
types2=2|
type12=Fire|type22=Steel|
p2m1=Earth Power|p2m1t=Ground|p2m1c=Special|
p2m2=Magma Storm|p2m2t=Fire|p2m2c=Special|
p2m3=Flash Cannon|p2m3t=Steel|p2m3c=Special|
p2m4=Explosion|p2m4t=Normal|p2m4c=Physical|

sprite3=Spr 4p 488.png|
p3=Cresselia|
ability3=Levitate|
item3=[[Leftovers]]|
level3=50|
gender3=♀|
types3=1|
type13=Psychic|
p3m1=Signal Beam|p3m1t=Bug|p3m1c=Special|
p3m2=Psychic|p3m2t=Psychic|p3m2c=Special|
p3m3=Ice Beam|p3m3t=Ice|p3m3c=Special|
p3m4=Moonlight|p3m4t=Normal|p3m4c=Status|
}}
{{PartyFooter|color={{tower color}}}}

===Quotes===
====First battle====
Before the battle: 
''"Hi! My name's Palmer. I remember you from when you were in [[Twinleaf Town|Twinleaf]], <{{player}}>. You were always playing with my son [[Rival|<name>]], right? You’ve grown up since then, and most impressively, too! So, I'd like you to show me. Show me the bond you’ve built with your Pokémon. Show me the skill you've acquired as a Trainer!"

After the battle: 
''"Losing to an outstanding Trainer like you... I can live with that."

''"Bravo! One day, I imagine my son will come challenge me just as you have. That’s something I look forward to a great deal. You will become even more skilled the very same way your father did. Keep battling Trainers from around the world and keep growing greater in stature!"

====Second battle====
Before the battle: 
''"So, you've come this so far! As the Tower Tycoon, I'll have to give you my best effort. That's how the best Trainers show respect to each other. By Battling all out as dedicated students of Pokémon!"

After the battle: 
''"Losing to an outstanding Trainer like you... I can live with that."

''"Bravo! I feel inspired in my heart! It brings back a memory of that day long ago... I went out to the lake with your father that day... We were attacked by a wild Pokémon. We fended it off, but I don't recall how. It was that desperate. That was my first step as a Trainer. I wonder if the professor is doing well? ...That's enough reminiscing. My young friend, the world and your future hold infinite promise. Go on, you can be all that you desire! There is no limit to where you can go!"

==In the manga==
===[[Pokémon Special]]===
Palmer is described as a very skilled {{pkmn|Trainer}} who passed some of his abilities on to his son, {{special|Pearl}}. However, he left Twinleaf Town a few years before Pearl's journey began and even Pearl does not know Palmer's current location.


==Trivia==
* Palmer is the only trainer to still be animated in Platinum even in his appearance at the end of the battle (his hair and coattails blow in the "wind").
* Palmer's battle music in {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}} is the same as [[Cynthia]]'s battle theme. In {{v2|Platinum}}, it changes to match the other four [[Frontier Brains]].
* Palmer's name can be rearranged to make his son's default name, Pearl, with an extra "m".
** Similarly, Palmer's Japanese name is the name of an Asian palm tree, while "Jun", one of Pearl's names, can mean "bamboo shoot", another Asian plant.

===Names===
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|-
|Japanese
|クロツグ ''Kurotsugu''
|A palm tree of the {{wp|Arenga}} genus.
|-
|English, Italian
|Palmer
|Relates to the palm trees of his Japanese name.
|-
|French
|Koner
|From ''conifère'', "{{wp|Pinophyta|conifer}}."
|-
|German
|Viktor
|German form of Victor.
|-
|Spanish
|Jericor
|From ''rigor'', rigour.
|-
|Korean
|종수 ''Jongsu
|
|}
 
{{Sinnoh Frontier Brains}} 
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[[Category:Game characters|Palmer]]
[[Category:Frontier Brains|Palmer]]
[[Category:Diamond and Pearl characters|Palmer]]
[[Category:Platinum characters|Palmer]]
[[Category:Male characters|Palmer]]

[[de:Viktor]]
[[ja:クロツグ]]

Palmer

2009-05-28T23:43:30Z

T65D: /* Silver Print challenge */

{{CharacterInfobox|
name=Palmer |
jname=クロツグ |
tmname=Kurotsugu |
image=[[Image:Palmer.png|200px]] |
caption=Art from Diamond/Pearl|
gender=Male |
hometown=[[Twinleaf Town]]|
region=[[Sinnoh]] |
relatives={{ga|Pearl}} (son), unnamed wife |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Tower Tycoon]] ([[Frontier Brain]]) |
numpkmncaught=Varies with canon |
game=yes |
generation={{Gen|IV}} |
games={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}} |
leader=no |
brain=Pt |
facility=Battle Tower |
print=Tower Print|
anime=no |
}}

'''Tower Tycoon Palmer''' (Japanese: '''タワータイクーンクロツグ''' ''Tower Tycoon Kurotsugu'') is the leader of the {{si|Battle Tower}} in {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}, and the Frontier Brain of the same facility in {{game|Platinum}}. He is {{ga|Pearl}}'s father. Palmer is very similar to his son in look and character, as he's always in a rush. Just like the {{player}} and Pearl did, he once went to a lake with the player's father, got his [[starter Pokémon]] there, and was attacked by [[wild Pokémon]].

==In the games==
===Pokémon Diamond and Pearl===
====On 21st consecutive battle====
{{PartyHeader|color={{diamond color}}|sprite=SpritePalmer.png|prize=20[[Battle Point|BP]]|class=[[Tower Tycoon]]|name=Palmer|game={{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}|location=[[Battle Tower (Sinnoh)|Battle Tower]]}}
{{PartyBody43|
color={{pearl color}}|

sprite1=Spr 4d 350_f.png|
p1=Milotic|
ability1=Marvel Scale|
item1=[[Salac Berry]]|
gender1=|
level1=50|
types1=1|
type11=Water|
p1m1=Hypnosis|p1m1t=Psychic|p1m1c=Status|
p1m2=Dragon Pulse|p1m2t=Dragon|p1m2c=Special|
p1m3=Hydro Pump|p1m3t=Water|p1m3c=Special|
p1m4=Recover|p1m4t=Normal|p1m4c=Status|

sprite2=Spr 4d 464_m.png|
p2=Rhyperior|
ability2=Solid Rock|
item2=[[Expert Belt]]|
gender2=|
level2=50|
types2=2|
type12=Ground|type22=Rock|
p2m1=Flamethrower|p2m1t=Fire|p2m1c=Special|
p2m2=Thunderbolt|p2m2t=Electric|p2m2c=Special|
p2m3=Ice Beam|p2m3t=Ice|p2m3c=Special|
p2m4=Rock Wrecker|p2m4t=Rock|p2m4c=Physical|

sprite3=Spr 4d 149.png|
p3=Dragonite|
ability3=Inner Focus|
item3=[[Wide Lens]]|
level3=50|
gender3=|
types3=2|
type13=Dragon|type23=Flying|
p3m1=Stone Edge|p3m1t=Rock|p3m1c=Physical|
p3m2=Dragon Rush|p3m2t=Dragon|p3m2c=Physical|
p3m3=Aqua Tail|p3m3t=Water|p3m3c=Physical|
p3m4=Iron Tail|p3m4t=Steel|p3m4c=Physical
}}
{{PartyFooter|color={{diamond color}}}}

====On 49th consecutive battle====
{{PartyHeader|color={{pearl color}}|sprite=SpritePalmer.png|prize=20[[Battle Point|BP]]|class=[[Tower Tycoon]]|name=Palmer|game={{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}|location=[[Battle Tower (Sinnoh)|Battle Tower]]}}
{{PartyBody43|
color={{diamond color}}|

sprite1=Spr 4d 485.png|
p1=Heatran|
ability1=Flash Fire|
item1=[[BrightPowder]]|
gender1=|
level1=50|
types1=2|
type11=Fire|type21=Steel|
p1m1=Dark Pulse|p1m1t=Dark|p1m1c=Special|
p1m2=Magma Storm|p1m2t=Fire|p1m2c=Special|
p1m3=Flash Cannon|p1m3t=Steel|p1m3c=Special|
p1m4=Explosion|p1m4t=Normal|p1m4c=Physical|

sprite2=Spr 4d 486.png|
p2=Regigigas|
ability2=Slow Start|
item2=[[Chople Berry]]|
gender2=|
level2=50|
types2=1|
type12=Normal|
p2m1=Stone Edge|p2m1t=Rock|p2m1c=Physical|
p2m2=Ice Punch|p2m2t=Ice|p2m2c=Physical|
p2m3=Crush Grip|p2m3t=Normal|p2m3c=Physical|
p2m4=Brick Break|p2m4t=Fighting|p2m4c=Physical|

sprite3=Spr 4d 488.png|
p3=Cresselia|
ability3=Levitate|
item3=[[Leftovers]]|
level3=50|
gender3=♀|
types3=1|
type13=Psychic|
p3m1=Shadow Ball|p3m1t=Ghost|p3m1c=Special|
p3m2=Psychic|p3m2t=Psychic|p3m2c=Special|
p3m3=Calm Mind|p3m3t=Psychic|p3m3c=Status|
p3m4=Moonlight|p3m4t=Normal|p3m4c=Status|
}}
{{PartyFooter|color={{pearl color}}}}

===Pokémon Platinum===
====Silver Print challenge====
{{PartyHeader|color={{tower color}}|sprite=PalmerPlatinum.gif|prize={{color2|{{tower color dark}}|Battle Point|20 BP}}|class={{color2|{{tower color dark}}|Tower Tycoon}}|name={{color|{{tower color dark}}|Palmer}}|game={{color2|{{tower color dark}}|Pokémon Platinum Version|Platinum}}|location={{color2|{{tower color dark}}|Battle Frontier (Sinnoh)|Battle Tower}}}}
{{PartyBody43|
color={{tower color}}|
sprite1=Spr 4p 350_f.png|
p1=Milotic|
ability1=Marvel Scale|
item1=[[Shell Bell]]|
gender1=|
level1=50|
types1=1|
type11=Water|
p1m1=Hypnosis|p1m1t=Psychic|p1m1c=Status|
p1m2=Ice Beam|p1m2t=Ice|p1m2c=Special|
p1m3=Surf|p1m3t=Water|p1m3c=Special|
p1m4=Attract|p1m4t=Normal|p1m4c=Status|

sprite2=Spr 4p 464_m.png|
p2=Rhyperior|
ability2=[[Solid Rock]]|
item2=[[Focus Band]]|
gender2=|
level2=50|
types2=2|
type12=Ground|type22=Rock|
p2m1=Crunch|p2m1t=Dark|p2m1c=Physical|
p2m2=Earthquake|p2m2t=Ground|p2m2c=Physical|
p2m3=Roar|p2m3t=Normal|p2m3c=Status|
p2m4=Rock Wrecker|p2m4t=Rock|p2m4c=Physical|

sprite3=Spr 4d 149.png|
p3=Dragonite|
ability3=Inner Focus|
item3=[[Lum Berry]]|
level3=50|
gender3=|
types3=2|
type13=Dragon|type23=Flying|
p3m1=Dragon Dance|p3m1t=Dragon|p3m1c=Status|
p3m2=Dragon Claw|p3m2t=Dragon|p3m2c=Physical|
p3m3=Aerial Ace|p3m3t=Flying|p3m3c=Physical|
p3m4=Thunder Wave|p3m4t=Electric|p3m4c=Status
}}
{{PartyFooter|color={{tower color}}}}

====Gold Print challenge====
{{PartyHeader|color={{tower color}}|sprite=PalmerPlatinum.gif|prize={{color2|{{tower color dark}}|Battle Point|20 BP}}|class={{color2|{{tower color dark}}|Tower Tycoon}}|name={{color|{{tower color dark}}|Palmer}}|game={{color2|{{tower color dark}}|Pokémon Platinum Version|Platinum}}|location={{color2|{{tower color dark}}|Battle Frontier (Sinnoh)|Battle Tower}}}}
{{PartyBody43|

sprite1=Spr 4p 486.png|
p1=Regigigas|
ability1=Slow Start|
item1=[[Chople Berry]]|
gender1=|
level1=50|
types1=1|
type11=Normal|
p1m1=Stone Edge|p1m1t=Rock|p1m1c=Physical|
p1m2=Earthquake|p1m2t=Ground|p1m2c=Physical|
p1m3=Crush Grip|p1m3t=Normal|p1m3c=Physical|
p1m4=Drain Punch|p1m4t=Fighting|p1m4c=Physical|

color={{tower color}}|
sprite2=Spr 4p 485.png|
p2=Heatran|
ability2=Flash Fire|
item2=[[Focus Sash]]|
gender2=|
level2=50|
types2=2|
type12=Fire|type22=Steel|
p2m1=Earth Power|p2m1t=Ground|p2m1c=Special|
p2m2=Magma Storm|p2m2t=Fire|p2m2c=Special|
p2m3=Flash Cannon|p2m3t=Steel|p2m3c=Special|
p2m4=Explosion|p2m4t=Normal|p2m4c=Physical|

sprite3=Spr 4p 488.png|
p3=Cresselia|
ability3=Levitate|
item3=[[Leftovers]]|
level3=50|
gender3=♀|
types3=1|
type13=Psychic|
p3m1=Signal Beam|p3m1t=Bug|p3m1c=Special|
p3m2=Psychic|p3m2t=Psychic|p3m2c=Special|
p3m3=Ice Beam|p3m3t=Ice|p3m3c=Special|
p3m4=Moonlight|p3m4t=Normal|p3m4c=Status|
}}
{{PartyFooter|color={{tower color}}}}

===Quotes===
====First battle====
Before the battle: 
''"Hi! My name's Palmer. I remember you from when you were in [[Twinleaf Town|Twinleaf]], <{{player}}>. You were always playing with my son [[Rival|<name>]], right? You’ve grown up since then, and most impressively, too! So, I'd like you to show me. Show me the bond you’ve built with your Pokémon. Show me the skill you've acquired as a Trainer!"

After the battle: 
''"Losing to an outstanding Trainer like you... I can live with that."

''"Bravo! One day, I imagine my son will come challenge me just as you have. That’s something I look forward to a great deal. You will become even more skilled the very same way your father did. Keep battling Trainers from around the world and keep growing greater in stature!"

====Second battle====
Before the battle: 
''"So, you've come this so far! As the Tower Tycoon, I'll have to give you my best effort. That's how the best Trainers show respect to each other. By Battling all out as dedicated students of Pokémon!"

After the battle: 
''"Losing to an outstanding Trainer like you... I can live with that."

''"Bravo! I feel inspired in my heart! It brings back a memory of that day long ago... I went out to the lake with your father that day... We were attacked by a wild Pokémon. We fended it off, but I don't recall how. It was that desperate. That was my first step as a Trainer. I wonder if the professor is doing well? ...That's enough reminiscing. My young friend, the world and your future hold infinite promise. Go on, you can be all that you desire! There is no limit to where you can go!"

==In the manga==
===[[Pokémon Special]]===
Palmer is described as a very skilled {{pkmn|Trainer}} who passed some of his abilities on to his son, {{special|Pearl}}. However, he left Twinleaf Town a few years before Pearl's journey began and even Pearl does not know Palmer's current location.


==Trivia==
* Palmer is the only trainer to still be animated in Platinum even in his appearance at the end of the battle (his hair and coattails blow in the "wind").
* Palmer's battle music in {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}} is the same as [[Cynthia]]'s battle theme. In {{v2|Platinum}}, it changes to match the other four [[Frontier Brains]].
* Palmer's name can be rearranged to make his son's default name, Pearl, with an extra "m".
** Similarly, Palmer's Japanese name is the name of an Asian palm tree, while "Jun", one of Pearl's names, can mean "bamboo shoot", another Asian plant.

===Names===
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|-
|Japanese
|クロツグ ''Kurotsugu''
|A palm tree of the {{wp|Arenga}} genus.
|-
|English, Italian
|Palmer
|Relates to the palm trees of his Japanese name.
|-
|French
|Koner
|From ''conifère'', "{{wp|Pinophyta|conifer}}."
|-
|German
|Viktor
|German form of Victor.
|-
|Spanish
|Jericor
|From ''rigor'', rigour.
|-
|Korean
|종수 ''Jongsu
|
|}
 
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[[Category:Game characters|Palmer]]
[[Category:Frontier Brains|Palmer]]
[[Category:Diamond and Pearl characters|Palmer]]
[[Category:Platinum characters|Palmer]]
[[Category:Male characters|Palmer]]

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