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2008-12-10T21:06:13Z

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== Previous discussions ==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]

== So featured articles... ==

Well, our current one's been up for more than a week, so I'm wondering...

#Ought we get a new one (aka, oh... Ash?) out there?
#Should we have some sort of regular schedule to the featuring?
#Will you guys ''ever'' nominate and vote on them quickly enough to feature them weekly? Monthly? Bi-monthly? How often?
#And if not... well, when should we go back to the normal MftE? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:51, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

:I think if it's simple enough to nominate articles, then we could see more use from this. I had to dig a bit through the links to find the other nominations... would a simple "Nominate an article" link next to the "read more" and "more featured articles" links be a good idea, perhaps? We could have an article with not only a list of nominations, but some simple instructions for how to nominate. Make it more accessible. We've got plenty of articles to nominate, not enough people looking for them.
:At this rate, a once-a-month nomination might work out nicely. With more activity, I'd say nominating faster then that would be nice. I personally think having featured articles is a fun thing, MftE makes for a good news feed, but that's about it. Featured articles give the front page more... appeal. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 08:35, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

::I completely agree. Monthly featuring would work great, and it makes the main page look much better. And if on one of the months we don't have a new one, we can use [[Poké Ball]] or [[Legendary Pokémon]], since they never made it to the main page, right? And there are already many good nominees. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 08:57, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
:::So we choose the next on the 21st? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:44, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
::::We can choose the next one whenever, I'd say. Then start up a cycle starting there. It's not a big deal if Brock gets featured for a little longer or shorter then the other featured articles we'll inevitably have. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 06:08, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::Or, either just wait until one comes again, and base a cycle on that time, or leave it up for a month, then take it down, and post a new one whenever a new one comes. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 18:50, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::So, ummm... It's been a month. New article, anyone?...? --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''zz''']] 19:38, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Hopefully the admins will get around to it when the buzz about Platinum dies down. Granted, in a perfect world there would be at least a couple assigned to all of the normal admin tasks, but ah well. --[[User:TwinsMetsFan|'''TMF''']] [[User talk:TwinsMetsFan|Let's Go Mets]] - [[Special:Contributions/TwinsMetsFan|Stats]] 22:44, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

==Move updating==
We shouldn't count Struggle, Super Glitch, Secret Power (it doesn't need the template) and Vacuum-Cut as moves, so should we subtract 4 from that? However, we SHOULD count Wide Slash as a move, because in MD it's a TM. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] 16:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
:There are 467 moves minus Super Glitch, Vacuum-Cut, and Wide Slash. I went by the in-game DP number. Secret Power and Struggle... well, yeah. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:00, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

==The ads...==

I don't like the way they work. The ads-well, just look at them! They make this site seem less trustable, and especially since it's like "REGISTER OR BE FORCED TO LOOK AT WEIRD ADS!!!!" I like that I don't have to look at them, now I'm a member, but I don't think that this site should be sponsored by cleavage revelations. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]) 23:14, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, I was looking at my own talk without being logged on, and I had to keep above the ad at the bottom so my mom wouldn't see it. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 01:37, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
::You can report those sorts of ads on the forums... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:52, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

== Featuring ==

Why has the featured article been about Brock all the time? - [[User:FireHazard|Hazardous FIRE!]] 05:51, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:Because it never changed; this is the first one. We're not going to be changing them every day like Wikipedia is...I think the consensus is change it every month?--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:53, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
::The discussion's a few sections up on this page, and yep, seems to be about once-a-month. We don't really have a need to feature an article every day, besides, we'd run out of articles too quick if we did that. And featuring for a longer time gives the articles more "airtime". --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 16:02, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

== RRRRGH!!! ==

Those new sprite tables are all wrong! Every time you click "show", the evolution chart sticks itself smack in the middle of it! NOT GOOD! I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 01:38, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
:Works perfectly fine for me. Mind giving a link to a page it doesn't work on, and listing what browser you use? Different browsers handle some codes differently, and it would be in our best interest to make sure Bulbapedia works on most of them. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 06:15, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
::Me as well. I know you've got an affinity for glitches, but IE... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:56, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Me too, I've noticed some pages work while some don't--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 07:18, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
::::It works fine for me, but somebody else is having a problem. {{u|23-03-33}} made a post [[Talk:Bulbasaur (Pokémon)#Problem|here]], along with a screencap what exactly it's doing. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:26, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

== Grammar... ==

Umm...it's in the "Did You Know" is supposed to be its...I'm not sure how to edit that section, but in the future, can people check the grammar just in case? [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 12:44, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

== Serebii ==

Serebii.net has like bucket-fulls of new info about the rotom formes and other stuff, shouldnt this be added to the main page? --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 20:09, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

== Platinum is out? ==

I thought that it was coming out on the 13th. But a bunch of videos are appearing on Youtube right now. Just look at them all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4kPiOdfY7Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGVCgkQt6W0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL0Oz7HBE70

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
--'''''Posted by''''' [[User:Deadlymethane|'''''Deadly''''']][[User talk:Deadlymethane|'''''methane''''']] '''at''' 00:41, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, Apparently people are saying that internet celebs get it first to review it, but I really dont know what to believe any more, but in any case, some people out there have it now as I type this. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 00:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
:It's just a leaked ROM. This happened back when DP came out in English too, remember?--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:53, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
::How is that possible? You can clearly see that the videos are from DSs. [[user:Baby G|Baby G]] ([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]]) 02:35, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:::I just got ricl rolled by the last video XD--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Talk]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Contributions))]]
:It is either a leaked ROM, or one of the copys that some shops sold early. -Rabla 22:26, 13 September 2008

== Pokemon Platinum Sprites ==

I found where all (almost) of the Pokemon Platinum sprites are.
They are here: http://sfc.pokemon-inside.net/platinum.php [[User:Evil Sonic|[b]Evil Sonic....[/b]]] 02:29, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:Some of them look fake to me. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::Yea like Chancey and Blissey--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 02:48, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:::No, those are them all right. Zhen sent me them and they are exactly those (minus the glitchy ones, which someone screwed up). '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:06, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Roselia's face looks weird. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:09, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::If I have nightmares tonight, I know who to blame. What did they do to Raichu! they ruined my favorite Pokemon! NOOOOOOOO! --'''[[User:Mooites|Mooites]]''' [[User talk:Mooites|Talk to me, baby!]] 23:19, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::Bring back {{v2|Crystal}}.
::::::As long as we're talking about sprites, I'm still not sure about the files we should be uploading. Are we going to animate everything, nothing, Platinum only, or what? --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:48, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

== My Pokemon Ranch and Platinum ==

It's been revealed on the Pokemon Ranch Japanese site that a Pokemon Platinum compatibility update will be available by the end of the year. Those that have the game already will be able to download the update for free when it's available.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 03:20, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:Thank goodness. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::Yup know i don't have to buy Wii Points.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 03:41, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

== IMPORTANT s' v s's posessive update ==

Go here [http://www.celebrity-babies.com/2008/09/marcia-cross--3.html]--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 14:55, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

:That's a celebrity blog. Blogs are prone to grammar errors, just as much as a wiki is. This blog can't be used as evidence in this debate. If you thought a celebrity blog could get us off our stance of keeping them at "James's", you're dead wrong.

:The articles stay at the names they currently have. If we've rejected certain schoolbooks, there's no way we'd fall prey to a blog. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:13, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

::I thought this issue was already discussed. Besides, if we did change, do you realize how much of a massive undertaking that would be? We not only would have to alter all articles belonging to James, we'd have to fix up some templates (like {{template|op}}) and go through every article trying to determine if it's correct. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 15:22, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

:::Excellent point. And in my opinion it's such a minute detail to have such a debate over it. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 21:43, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

::::Look, we know that s' is considered the proper. The problem is that it would mess up all the templates we have. Such as <nowiki>{{TP|James|Mime Jr.}}</nowiki>. The template won't work correctly if it's James' Mime Jr. instead. So will you stop bringing this up already? It's impossible to have it this way. We are not doing it to piss users off. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:49, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Actually, no, the s' would be wrong. You put the apostrophe after the s only if it's a plural noun. If James was the plural form of Jame, then it would be appropriate, but since he's one guy, it's James's. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 22:05, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::Everyone has disagreements on pluralizing singulars ending with "S". The only agreement seems to be Jesus and Moses use "s' " for whatever reason.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:08, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Cross was s'--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:19, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:The s' is not the proper way, no more than not beginning a sentence with and. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:21, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::Kuki, some random blog using "s' " doesn't make it correct. Go bring us a document on the proper use of English to support your argument.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:28, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Technically sayin James' and James's means the same thing [[User:Dion24|Dion24]] 23:38, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:...that's not the point.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 23:45, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

== Problem with Platinum-move-standardizing ==

Big problem: Say someone standardizes half of the learnsets in a move and forgets about it. It is put under Platinum standard and no one will know the other half is done. What do we do, manually check every move article? [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 21:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:It's up to the person editing to remember to complete it later. If they don't, we'll find it eventually, just like we do all mistakes in the articles, and can take care of it then. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 21:49, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::A surefire way to find articles with half-converted learnsets is to [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Learnset section box style|use this special page]]. The long-since deleted template that the page is checking for is embedded in old code from the old format, so any article that shows up on that special page has unconverted learnset sections. (I've already gone through and removed the aforementioned old code from all of the pages that have been fully converted.) --[[User:TwinsMetsFan|'''TMF''']] [[User talk:TwinsMetsFan|Let's Go Mets]] - [[Special:Contributions/TwinsMetsFan|Stats]] 22:28, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

== Featured Article ==

I'm surprised this Wiki doesn't have a featured article. Shouldn't there be one? --[[User:Xknight 511|☆X-Knight☆]][[User talk:Xknight 511|511♂]] 05:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
:There was a few days ago. Now there isn't. There will be again, as soon as the admins get around to it. Once the rush of edits with the Platinum release wears down, I'd guess. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 06:26, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I see. Thank you for teh info. --[[User:Xknight 511|☆X-Knight☆]][[User talk:Xknight 511|511♂]] 06:31, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

==Can't create new page...==

I want to create a page for Rui Quintas and Peter Michael, our (Portugal) two James, but the way I use to create pages don't work... I have two ways: one is searching for the page, and then click on the button that says to begin that certain page. Another way I use is when the name of the page I want to create is red in another page, so I click on it and then I create the page...
However, this time, I can't create the page. Even if I put [[]] around their names, it redirects to the list of international voice actors. See for yourselves - [[Rui Quintas]]. And the same thing if I search.
Is there any other way to create pages? Or can you please resolve this little unwanted redirect, please?[[User:Portuguese Old Man|Portuguese Old Man]] 18:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
:Just go to the top of the voice actors' page and you will see the blue link. Click on it and edit it. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 19:00, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
::It was already decided that these people are not notable enough for their own pages. That is why they are redirects. Not even all f the English voice actors are notable enough, so why shouldn't the international voice actors be the same? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:06, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Ok, thanks^^[[User:Portuguese Old Man|Portuguese Old Man]] 19:14, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

== Userspace? ==

I did some searching, but I can't find anything on it. That said:

Is there a policy outlining what can and can't be done with the userspace? Seems that I can't redirect it to my talk page, how about using it as a reminder list for myself or just blanking the damn thing? -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|BCJ]] 04:44, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:Blanking it ought to be OK (it's your page, after all). You can also slap a {{template|delete}} tag on there and let an admin get rid of it altogether. I'd recommend {{bp|signature policy|customizing your signature}} in such a case so it links to your user talk page. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 04:46, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::Works for me, thanks. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|BCJ]] 05:03, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:::just want to throw in that i DON'T suggest deleting user pages, as it gives users the dreaded "red label" (user pages not written) and i have a tendency to scan those person's edits. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 05:08, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::::What? Really? Why? I mean, plenty of people around here just don't have userpages. [[User:Urutapu|One of our sysops]], for example. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 07:34, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Personally, I don't think it's a problem to redirect to your own user talk page from your user page; it was just one time (that I know of) that the situation popped up, and the only reason anyone could think ''not'' to do it was because "nobody else does that". It's fairly normal on most other wikis, if someone doesn't actually have - or want - a userpage, but doesn't like a red link. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 15:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::That's what I was thinking, but someone reverted my redirect saying that 'it should be like that'. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|BCJ]]''([[User talk:Bug Catcher Jam|talk]])'' 21:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::::It's something that has never been cleared up; there's no current rule about it yet, so it may or may not be reverted depending on who sees it. I think perhaps it's time we made a simple userpage policy; we could fit just common-sense things on it (don't edit it too much, don't insult people, etc), and at least have something to point to when we do need to edit people's userpages. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 19:36, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::::And if you don't want the "dreaded red link," as you put it, just change your sig to be a different color (if you don't know and can't find color codes, see [[User talk:Theininen|my talk]] for a couple of links and sigs for the setup), or simply put a generic greeting or contact info (i.e. e-mail, AIM, etc.) and it will be normal blue. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 02:06, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

==Categories==

On the bottom of episode pages there are categories for episodes, how do we create one? I looked and couldn't find out how.

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 21:56, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:<nowiki>[[Category:(whatever)]]</nowiki> at the bottom with the others. Then just make the category. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

== # of moves remaining ==

It's actually 36 + one userpage, to be exact. This is inaccurate because moves outside the DPPt 467 have been updated as well, such as Shadow moves or glitch moves. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 00:44, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:They've been counted. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:30, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, it says 467, which only includes the DPPt ones on [[List of moves]]. Even then, [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Learnset section box style|this page]] would like to have a word with you. Various unstarted and unfinished ones on here. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 20:11, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Woo, we're almost there. 2 almost-finished moves and 2 unstarted moves. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] ''I am not removing this lengthy addition to my signature until all moves have been updated to Platinum standard.'' 15:14, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

:how come it says minus 3 now?
:[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamatecharizard]] 16:23, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

::Because if you put one of the templates used to update it automatically categorizes it, which affects the countdown. In truth, there's really only [[Mud-Slap (move)|one move left]]. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] ''I am not removing this lengthy addition to my signature until all moves have been updated to Platinum standard.'' 16:59, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

:::Platinum ''complete''! [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 18:16, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

::::Sweet. The "Message from the Editor" section of the Main Page should be updated to reflect this. --[[User:TwinsMetsFan|'''TMF''']] [[User talk:TwinsMetsFan|Let's Go Mets]] - [[Special:Contributions/TwinsMetsFan|Stats]] 07:11, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

== Other pictures/Adds? ==

Subject A.) Okay, I was thinking, should we get pictures of 3D appearances and Ranch (normal and Shiny)?

Subject B.) Alright, when I'm on my Wii, I find adds, and some of them are '''absolutely offensive.''' I get some saying "how dumb are you? take our test to find out!" We absolutely need to remove these. All adds.[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 19:40, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
:Nuh uh. It's the other way around: Unless you have some other way to pay for the server costs, the ads have to stay. You can report offensive ads on the forums but I don't think dumbness tests qualify for that. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:43, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
But still... some are a bit offensive.[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 23:37, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

:And like Fabu-Vinny mentioned, you can report those on the forums; there's a thread for just that purpose. Particularly offensive ads can be blacklisted, so they won't show up again. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 00:50, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
::you could also just sign in, and they all go away. can you sign in on a Wii? -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:18, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I've signed into things like Youtube on my Wii, so I think you can sign onto bulbapedia on it. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 13:32, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
I probably could, but on Mariowiki, which has the same set-up, makes it extremespeedly slow.[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 00:12, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Subject A: Probably not. We do not have 3D pictures for Colosseum and XD (even though they're already on the German PokéWiki, nor do we have 3D pictures for Battle Revolution. It would be a good thing to add 3D sprites for all 4 games if PokéWiki were competition to add sprites like such, but we're only competing against it with the select few German-speaking ''and'' English-speaking Pokémon fans. [[User:Gligar|'''Gli''']][[User talk:Gligar|'''gar''']] 18:21, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

On the subject of sprites, we're still missing (in Generation IV) few shiny Diamonds, a few Platinums, and most of the shiny Platinums. Generation III ''really'' needs sprites, as ones such as Lunatone have only Emerald. Generation II is pretty much done, save for some Crystal, and Gen I is finished. Oh, and a non-animated Manaphy Egg Minisprite is all I can think of. [[User:Gligar|'''Gli''']][[User talk:Gligar|'''gar''']] 18:21, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

If images weren't disabled, the project of adding these images in an easy-to-follow 80x80 format would be much easier. [[User:Gligar|'''Gli''']][[User talk:Gligar|'''gar''']] 18:21, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Due to the failure of a computer I'm right now I can't link to it, but the PokémonElite2000 Sprite Resourse has every sprite (I don't actually know about Platinums) including Shinies and Male/Female forms. Since it's a 'resource,' we are perfectly alowed to use them... [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 02:13, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

==User Profile Things==

On user profile pages a lot of people have those icons that say like "this user plays this game" "this user's favorite pokemon is" and all sorts of things. Where do we get these!?

--[[User:KantoLegend|KantoLegend]] 04:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
:{{cat|User tags|here}}. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''zz''']] 07:12, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

==TR==

I've seen many episode guides with "TR" instead of "Team Rocket".
Don't you think it would be better if we had "Team Rocket" instead of "TR" in the episode guides? [[User:Portuguese Old Man|Portuguese Old Man]] 13:09, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:Of course. Change it if it's there. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:16, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

==Name changes==

Is there a way to change your user name?

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 21:49, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:Ask TTE later--[[User:RexRacer|'''RexRacer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 21:50, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== Message from the Editor ==

Under this, "Read more" and "Past messages" both link to the exact same thing. Just sayin'. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 02:55, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

== Easy-To-Use and Correct 'é' ==

I'll venture a guess that plenty of people already know this, but the character code - this works on any text document - for 'é' is 130. So, hold Alt (if you have an Alt) and type a 1, a 3, and 0 then release Alt. Ta-dah! [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 02:17, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
:And if you're currently editing Bulbapedia, it's even easier. Just click on the é in the character palette. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:31, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::In my case, it's also Alt + 0233, which is still just as easy. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 21:40, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:::In my case, I just hit Alt Gr + e. UK Keyboard layout. I can also scream POKÉMON! as a result, by holding shift. Alt Gr is just Alt+Ctrl on one key.. so Alt+Ctrl+e = é as well. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 21:44, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

:::And 2178 works as well...[[User:Kpokefan|'''K''']][[User talk:Kpokefan|'''P''']][[User:Kpokefan/Missions|'''F''']] 21:44, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

== Is there? ==

Is there a tag for Democrats? as in <nowiki>{{User Democrat}}</nowiki>--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Nag at Me!]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Edits))]]

I don't believe so, I think it is just a Liberal tag. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 00:57, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

:Remember, guys. This page is for discussing Bulbapedia's MAIN PAGE only. Not general discussion about the wiki. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:00, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I know, I'm just responding, it's not like anyone else wouldn't afterall. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 01:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

== Featured Articles ==

Umm...I just looked at the page, and we had 2 accepted a couple of days ago, why aren't they on the main page? [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 16:03, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

== Did you know... ==

...that the "Did you know" section of the Main Page hasn't been changed in over a month? [[User:SharKing|'''Shar''''''K''']][[User Talk:SharKing|'''ing''']] 23:31, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== 255 ==

I'm far too lazy to do so myslef, but does anyone want to make an article about the various ways '255' was the highest number (value, really) that the old games could deal with? [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 00:21, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

== This one goes out to all you Senior & Veteran members out there ==

Perhaps we should focus more on User Relations. In the last 30 contributions, we swooped in on a BRAND NEW USER, warned him five times on a policy he is not familar on, deleted his pages before allowing him time to save them elsewhere, and while im currently typing this, im sure someone is attacking him right now. Perhaps we should be more welcoming to the new users and contributors, whom Im sure have good things to add to the site just as much as the rest of us--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Nag at Me!]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Edits))]]
:maybe that new user should read the welcome message and MoS before they make such a number of poor edits and abuse the userspace. this way, we wont need to yell at them. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:44, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
::And understand it all? Right--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Nag at Me!]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Edits))]]
:::I don't know if you want my 2 cents, but I agree with DCM. Often, new contributors need time to get used to the laws of the 'Pedia. I should know-- a few months ago, I made a number of errors. [[User:SharKing|'''Shar'''K'''ing''']] [[User Talk:SharKing|Talk]] 01:55, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
::::and thats fine. users make mistakes, and we certainly dont expect new users to be top contributors right away, but it is stressed that new users should read the [[Manual of Style]] before making any edits. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:04, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::I completely agree with DCM. Perhaps some of you guys ought to get off your high horses, jump wikis and read {{wp|WP:BITE|a fundamental Wikipedia policy}}. I guarantee it'll make this 'pedia a much nicer place to work. -- [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] 09:03, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::Rule 33: Lurk moar. Always the rule. Internet users just need to start getting it like the rest of us. However, jumping on a noob isn't the best thing...
::::::Either way, the reason why we made the welcome was so that we didn't have to jump on people whose first stop wasn't the MOS. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:17, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::How many n00bs are going to stop and read a wall of text? For that is essentially what it is. Wouldn't it be better to make more concise welcome message, with links to pages that extend on the policies? [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 09:20, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

::::::::Perhaps something like [http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Beginner%27s_Guide this?] --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 09:26, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Yes. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 09:37, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Bulbapedia is not for n00bs. That's MY opinion on this. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 09:31, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Perhaps you've forgotten exactly what this is a wiki on? You're going to get many n00bs. And most of them, if not driven away, do become good members. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 09:37, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Uncyclopedia isn't funny. However yes we need to rework the welcoming wall of text. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:35, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::I think so far, my record is that every wiki I've started off on the wrong foot with = I'm an admin there. Unfortunately, I knew what I was doing by the time I got to Wikipedia, so no adminship there. Boo.
::::::::::But yes, just because someone makes a few (or a lot of) mistakes early on, doesn't mean they couldn't become good editors.
::::::::::@TTE: no u. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 10:43, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
(←outdent) I still find it kind of scary that despite all of your "use the link templates" and "do it our way" 'policies' you guys have, there is nothing about being nice to other users. I have even seen a (new?) user's talk page containing a warning about warning a "veteran" about (I think) too many mainspace edits. The response from the third-party user (ie not the "n00b" or "veteran") was "he's been around for a while and stacked up a ****-load of edits, let him do what he wants". Seriously, are there two sets of rule books here? Coz I'd like a copy of the second one! But I highly doubt I'll get that. Anyway, you "seniors and veterans" need to start to consider the fact that Bulbapedia is not just a place with infinite amounts of Pokemon (I mean, Pokémon) info; it's a community where people hang out. We would like to be respected, and offering this respect to new users and old users alike will definitely result in situations like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:TTEchidna/Archive_Nov_08_1#OBAMA this] being avoided, as well as the example I gave above, and much more that I'm sure we've all seen. Reading {{wp|WP:CIVIL}}, {{wp|WP:BITE}} and {{wp|WP:COOL}} would be obvious places to start. For templating, perhaps consider examining {{wp|Template:welcomeg}} for ideas on layout. -- [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] 05:43, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
:Just a note on the first example, Guardian is beyond the "newbie" status for a while now, that discussion got heated for it's points, not because any one user was older then another.
:But yes, some policy on "being nice", be it written or unwritten, could be a good idea at this point. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 06:06, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
::I'm pretty sure the community is more over on BMGf than here. ;-)
::Plus, this isn't Wikipedia. We're not going to go out and become exactly like Wikipedia, except with information on Pokémon instead.
::And thirdly, people should really use their common sense, if they indeed have it.
::@JD, I doubt that an unwritten rule would do all that much, as people can't exactly read something not written. A policy on "being nice" being written down would get there. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 09:18, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
:::[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4#Bulbaquette?|Where does this sound familiar from?]]
:::I like to think that I've done some good work on this wiki--work that I wouldn't have done if everyone jumped on my throat the first few mistakes I made. By the way, when I went to the TFwiki and brought up an idea, they all hated it--but they didn't hate me for it. Partly, it was because I was accepting of their verdict, but partly because they seem to know better than to bite the newbies. We were all "n00bs" once, and we kind of have to accept new ideas if we expect ourselves to continue to grow and evolve. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 09:20, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Being nice and assuming good faith should generally come with experience, but yes, having it in writing would probably be a necessity. I'm a big supporter of [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_a_dick a certain MetaWiki policy], which is used on multiple wikis simply for it's short, to-the-point message. And it's got a cool name. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 09:25, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::GlinnMcGraw - I'm not trying to turn this into Wikipedia, just pointing out some ideas to look at for developing our own policies. And BMGf and BP have different communities - I don't do the forums, and I'm sure there are forum people that don't do BP. Also, most of the users of this website are children (based on the nature of our content). A lot of the time, this age group lacks common sense, therefore we need something concrete. Finally, Jioruji_Derako - I love DBAD! -- [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] 10:05, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::Nor did I say you were, I was simply saying that they are not one.
::::::On common sense, ''I did say if they had it.'' ;-)
::::::New question though, what should the "be nice" policy be based on? DBAD? Start from scratch? [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 10:36, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I don't think the DBAD policy would be the best idea ''here'', simply for the wording. But there are a lot of other options to either borrow from, or start from scratch. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AGF Assume Good Faith] is one policy that spans many wikis, and would work here as well. That's just an example, we could just write up something of our own too (it probably would be about the same, though). --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 13:45, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Well, yes, not DBAD to a word, that much is obvious, just something to base the policy on, such as AGF, would be good. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 13:55, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::I made a draft policy. [[User:The dark lord trombonator/Bulbapedia:Assume Good Faith|BP:AGF]]. Read and review (here or on the sub's talk page). -- [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] 05:23, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

==e-mail problem==

my sister wants an account but she can't do it 'cus we have the same e-mail and as mentioned above in ''The ads'' I hate it when I'm on BulbaNews and the archives 'cus there are '''SO MANY DAM ADS WHY CAN'T WE GET RID OF THEM!''' but I'm getting off topic, the point is, ''is there any way for us to have the same e-mail address?''----[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamatecharizard]] 18:33, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
:OK, OK, calm down... They won't let you use the same e-mail because they think it's "sockpuppeting." That means that someone with malicious intentions uses the same computer and e-mail to have multiple accounts to vandalize the site. Either go make a new e-mail for your sister or go ask an admin to make an exception. [[User:Dialgarules|Dialgarules]] 18:38, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
::She could just make a G-mail, hotmail, etc. otherwise, no.--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:Regarding the ads, just go to your [[Special:Preferences|preferences]], then click the blue "Manage your global account" link. Now, when you login on Bulbapedia, and go to check BulbaNews or the Archives, you will also be logged in there. When you're logged in, no ads will appear - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] '''|''' 18:42, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
::But without an account in the first place, that does no good. I'm pretty sure your sister will have to create her own e-mail in order to get an account. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 18:47, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, for the sister it doesn't but for {{u|Ultamatecharizard}} it will create the BulbaNews & Archives accounts (if not already done), & merge them. For the sister, yes, a new e-mail is required but one can easily be made at gmail, hotmail, etc. like DCM said. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] '''|''' 18:53, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
::::thanks about that espeically about the ads I'll get on it soon----[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamatecharizard]] 22:11, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

== Wow. ==

I see the main page got a makeover. Nice. And the Did you know" section was finally changed! --[[User:SharKing|'''Shar'''K'''ing''']] (([[User Talk:SharKing|Talk to the King!]])) 14:09, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:Happy Ninth, Gold and Silver! --[[User:Jonouchi|Jonouchi]] 14:37, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
::WOOT I can't believe its been NINE years!! [[User:Rucario64|Rucario]][[User Talk:Rucario64|64]] 20:04, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:::And the whole Typhlosion (Echidna) for message from the editor is awesome.--[[User:MisterE13|MisterE13]] 21:29, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Haha, I didn't see the connection there. Should Meganium have a little dancing sprite too (as third starter)? Or is there a secret reason that this non-player of Gold and Silver doesn't realise? — [[User:The dark lord trombonator|THE]] [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|TROM]] — 21:47, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::Its Gorgous.--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::::::I think that a remake will happen before this time next year. Their probably waiting 4 the 10 anneversory of GS --[[User:ShinyPikachu|Pretty Pretty Shiny Shiny]] '''[[User Talk:ShinyPikachu|Dont bug me]]'''

:::::::It's spelled "gorgeous." ShinyPikachu, put a <nowiki></nowiki> after your sig is done. And it's been nine years since GS? Wow... Nine years and nothing has been heard from the ol' Johto region... --[[User:Dialgarules|'''Dialga''']][[User talk:Dialgarules|'''RULES''']] 23:12, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::No, I was referring to the greek philospher, Gorgias. moving on. The sprites are nifty, and i like the color scheme--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:::::::::Meganium wasn't there really because there was no place for it. But I suppose I can put it there... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:33, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::great job TTE----[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 23:52, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::I like it a lot. Wasn't it just recently the 6th Anniversary of Ruby & Sapphire? [[User:Yinyang1195|Yin]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|Yang]] 05:42, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::It looked SO good, couldn't we have kept it, at least until GSDS or generation V?--[[User:MisterE13|MisterE13]] 14:10, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
:It looked tropical to me XD [[User:Tesh|TESH]][[User_talk:Tesh|IGIGAS]] 16:49, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

== Usertags ==

Every time I add a usertag to my page, it gets eaten by the one above. What must I do to stop this (I'm signing here so my signiture won't be eaten as well)? [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 03:43, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Example:
{| class="userboxitem" style="border: 1px solid #082567;" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"
! style="background: #{{normal color}};" | [[Image:OakSprite.png|50px]]
| style="background: #{{water color}}; color: #006;" | This user knows what he is talking about.
|}
Try it now--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 03:48, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
:Closing it would be nice--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:I tried several different combonations of } and |, but in the end I needed help. Thank you for providing it, RexRacer! [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 03:54, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

== Edit request ==

I'm requesting an edit. Please make all the headers smaller, such as making level 1 headers into level 2 headers, level 2 headers into level 3 headers, etc. [[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]][[User talk:Chocolate|((Talk to Me]][[Special:Contributions/Chocolate||Look at My Contributions))]] 01:24, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
:Any particular reason? They seem fine as they are to me, are they showing up too big in your browser or something of the sort? --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 01:31, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
::It should be like that because almost every other page on the 'Pedia has it like that. [[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]][[User talk:Chocolate|((Talk to Me]][[Special:Contributions/Chocolate||Look at My Contributions))]] 01:35, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
:::The text gets much smaller with each added level, however. To make up for the edit, all the headers would need to be giving <nowiki><big></nowiki> tags as well as the additional levels, while the current setup doesn't actually hurt the page. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 01:40, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
::::But I saw something in the MoS before that said to always start out with level 2 headers. Plus, TTE greatly opposes level 1 headers. [[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]][[User talk:Chocolate|((Talk to Me]][[Special:Contributions/Chocolate||Look at My Contributions))]] 01:42, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::Main Page is a different thing. Level 1 headers are fine here. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:59, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::Why are level 1 headers okay on the main page? They're too big IMO. [[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]][[User talk:Chocolate|((Talk to Me]][[Special:Contributions/Chocolate||Look at My Contributions))]] 02:01, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I would say it's the size that makes them okay here. The main page isn't an article in the sense that it's about a certain topic, it's about multiple topics. Thus, the main sections get larger headers then your average article, which only has a single H1 header (the title of the page is an H1 header), and sub-sections in H2 headers. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 04:52, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Consider Bulbapedia as "The BIG book of Pokémon". The Main Page is the cover of the book and will need big titles, and, as you delve deeper into the book, the headers become smaller because they are the different chapters. [[User:Tesh|TESH]][[User_talk:Tesh|IGIGAS]] 20:18, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
:If we sized the biggest heading down, then all the small headings would become way too small. [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arceus''']] 20:20, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

== Dead links ==

What is the official policy on non-existant links? Assuming he isn't planning to create an article for them, should one leave them red or change them to text? [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 20:13, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
:who is creating red links? and dont do it yourself, it shows up in the wanted pages. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:20, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
::I don't think you really intended to, but you answered my question. [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 20:36, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Delete if in mainspace AND if its a mispelling[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::::avoid red links unless its an article that really should be created, like, [[Modified format (TCG)]]. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:41, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::Mostly, let an admin deal with redlinks. They know what to do the most, and they know what is notable and what isn't. All redlinks appear in the Wanted pages, and I check that for mistakes daily...so, an admin will get them sooner or later. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:50, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

== READ THIS ==

[[Talk:List of moves#XD Shadow Moves Are Not ???-type|This]] is a truly annoying error; I want permission to change it...[[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 15:56, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
:Then fix it. its not tough[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

== Shiny and new! ==

Anyone got anything to say for the Main Page? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:58, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah. {{tt|It's great!|However, I would have liked Water-types instead of Grass-types........}} And why not keep them permanently?--'''[[User:Diby|Di]][[User talk:Diby|b]][[Special:Contributions/Diby|y]]''' 10:52, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
:: Was hoping noone would reply.... I actually like it, Nice and clean. But too bad were not gonna keep it permanently....--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|Force]] [[User:Force Fire|''Fire'']] [[User talk:Force Fire|''talk'']] 11:00, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
:::It took me a moment to get used to it. It looks awesome, and incorporates the mascot and colors of the site very well. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 12:23, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
::::I like it. Shame it's not permanent. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 18:38, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::The default colors can be found at {{template|Main Page/Default}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:23, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

==If we be's making a move template==
I suggest instead ov the typing of the pokémon, like everywhere else, we colour the moves. An example would be, if a pokémon's level-up moves were posion jap and then water gun, it would look like this Poison jab water gun. Who agrees? [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]]

:The downside of that is that is there's a few colors that are quite close. For example:
*'''Ghost'''
*'''Poison'''
*'''Dragon'''
:Unless you've got them memorized, or we stick a rather large color-key at the top of every movelist, it would be easy to confuse those three, just for one example (since they're all shades of purple).
:I'm all for coloring, but if anything, it would only be done in addition to other info. Which might be a good idea, assuming the colors don't make it tougher to read or anything. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 18:38, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
::So, what do you mean, for the party template or for the level up/TM/HM/MT lists? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:23, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Yeah. Any problems? [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]]
::::Oops. Level up ect moves. [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]]

Talk:Main Page/Archive 7

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Strong Intelligent: /* If we be's making a move template */

Talk:Main Page/Archive 7

2008-12-10T18:27:11Z

Strong Intelligent: Me again.

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== Previous discussions ==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]

== So featured articles... ==

Well, our current one's been up for more than a week, so I'm wondering...

#Ought we get a new one (aka, oh... Ash?) out there?
#Should we have some sort of regular schedule to the featuring?
#Will you guys ''ever'' nominate and vote on them quickly enough to feature them weekly? Monthly? Bi-monthly? How often?
#And if not... well, when should we go back to the normal MftE? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:51, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

:I think if it's simple enough to nominate articles, then we could see more use from this. I had to dig a bit through the links to find the other nominations... would a simple "Nominate an article" link next to the "read more" and "more featured articles" links be a good idea, perhaps? We could have an article with not only a list of nominations, but some simple instructions for how to nominate. Make it more accessible. We've got plenty of articles to nominate, not enough people looking for them.
:At this rate, a once-a-month nomination might work out nicely. With more activity, I'd say nominating faster then that would be nice. I personally think having featured articles is a fun thing, MftE makes for a good news feed, but that's about it. Featured articles give the front page more... appeal. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 08:35, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

::I completely agree. Monthly featuring would work great, and it makes the main page look much better. And if on one of the months we don't have a new one, we can use [[Poké Ball]] or [[Legendary Pokémon]], since they never made it to the main page, right? And there are already many good nominees. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 08:57, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
:::So we choose the next on the 21st? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:44, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
::::We can choose the next one whenever, I'd say. Then start up a cycle starting there. It's not a big deal if Brock gets featured for a little longer or shorter then the other featured articles we'll inevitably have. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 06:08, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::Or, either just wait until one comes again, and base a cycle on that time, or leave it up for a month, then take it down, and post a new one whenever a new one comes. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 18:50, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::So, ummm... It's been a month. New article, anyone?...? --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''zz''']] 19:38, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Hopefully the admins will get around to it when the buzz about Platinum dies down. Granted, in a perfect world there would be at least a couple assigned to all of the normal admin tasks, but ah well. --[[User:TwinsMetsFan|'''TMF''']] [[User talk:TwinsMetsFan|Let's Go Mets]] - [[Special:Contributions/TwinsMetsFan|Stats]] 22:44, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

==Move updating==
We shouldn't count Struggle, Super Glitch, Secret Power (it doesn't need the template) and Vacuum-Cut as moves, so should we subtract 4 from that? However, we SHOULD count Wide Slash as a move, because in MD it's a TM. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] 16:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
:There are 467 moves minus Super Glitch, Vacuum-Cut, and Wide Slash. I went by the in-game DP number. Secret Power and Struggle... well, yeah. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:00, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

==The ads...==

I don't like the way they work. The ads-well, just look at them! They make this site seem less trustable, and especially since it's like "REGISTER OR BE FORCED TO LOOK AT WEIRD ADS!!!!" I like that I don't have to look at them, now I'm a member, but I don't think that this site should be sponsored by cleavage revelations. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]) 23:14, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, I was looking at my own talk without being logged on, and I had to keep above the ad at the bottom so my mom wouldn't see it. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 01:37, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
::You can report those sorts of ads on the forums... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:52, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

== Featuring ==

Why has the featured article been about Brock all the time? - [[User:FireHazard|Hazardous FIRE!]] 05:51, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:Because it never changed; this is the first one. We're not going to be changing them every day like Wikipedia is...I think the consensus is change it every month?--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:53, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
::The discussion's a few sections up on this page, and yep, seems to be about once-a-month. We don't really have a need to feature an article every day, besides, we'd run out of articles too quick if we did that. And featuring for a longer time gives the articles more "airtime". --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 16:02, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

== RRRRGH!!! ==

Those new sprite tables are all wrong! Every time you click "show", the evolution chart sticks itself smack in the middle of it! NOT GOOD! I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 01:38, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
:Works perfectly fine for me. Mind giving a link to a page it doesn't work on, and listing what browser you use? Different browsers handle some codes differently, and it would be in our best interest to make sure Bulbapedia works on most of them. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 06:15, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
::Me as well. I know you've got an affinity for glitches, but IE... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:56, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Me too, I've noticed some pages work while some don't--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 07:18, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
::::It works fine for me, but somebody else is having a problem. {{u|23-03-33}} made a post [[Talk:Bulbasaur (Pokémon)#Problem|here]], along with a screencap what exactly it's doing. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:26, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

== Grammar... ==

Umm...it's in the "Did You Know" is supposed to be its...I'm not sure how to edit that section, but in the future, can people check the grammar just in case? [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 12:44, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

== Serebii ==

Serebii.net has like bucket-fulls of new info about the rotom formes and other stuff, shouldnt this be added to the main page? --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 20:09, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

== Platinum is out? ==

I thought that it was coming out on the 13th. But a bunch of videos are appearing on Youtube right now. Just look at them all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4kPiOdfY7Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGVCgkQt6W0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL0Oz7HBE70

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
--'''''Posted by''''' [[User:Deadlymethane|'''''Deadly''''']][[User talk:Deadlymethane|'''''methane''''']] '''at''' 00:41, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, Apparently people are saying that internet celebs get it first to review it, but I really dont know what to believe any more, but in any case, some people out there have it now as I type this. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 00:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
:It's just a leaked ROM. This happened back when DP came out in English too, remember?--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:53, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
::How is that possible? You can clearly see that the videos are from DSs. [[user:Baby G|Baby G]] ([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]]) 02:35, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:::I just got ricl rolled by the last video XD--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Talk]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Contributions))]]
:It is either a leaked ROM, or one of the copys that some shops sold early. -Rabla 22:26, 13 September 2008

== Pokemon Platinum Sprites ==

I found where all (almost) of the Pokemon Platinum sprites are.
They are here: http://sfc.pokemon-inside.net/platinum.php [[User:Evil Sonic|[b]Evil Sonic....[/b]]] 02:29, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:Some of them look fake to me. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::Yea like Chancey and Blissey--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 02:48, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:::No, those are them all right. Zhen sent me them and they are exactly those (minus the glitchy ones, which someone screwed up). '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:06, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Roselia's face looks weird. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:09, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::If I have nightmares tonight, I know who to blame. What did they do to Raichu! they ruined my favorite Pokemon! NOOOOOOOO! --'''[[User:Mooites|Mooites]]''' [[User talk:Mooites|Talk to me, baby!]] 23:19, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::Bring back {{v2|Crystal}}.
::::::As long as we're talking about sprites, I'm still not sure about the files we should be uploading. Are we going to animate everything, nothing, Platinum only, or what? --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:48, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

== My Pokemon Ranch and Platinum ==

It's been revealed on the Pokemon Ranch Japanese site that a Pokemon Platinum compatibility update will be available by the end of the year. Those that have the game already will be able to download the update for free when it's available.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 03:20, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:Thank goodness. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::Yup know i don't have to buy Wii Points.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 03:41, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

== IMPORTANT s' v s's posessive update ==

Go here [http://www.celebrity-babies.com/2008/09/marcia-cross--3.html]--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 14:55, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

:That's a celebrity blog. Blogs are prone to grammar errors, just as much as a wiki is. This blog can't be used as evidence in this debate. If you thought a celebrity blog could get us off our stance of keeping them at "James's", you're dead wrong.

:The articles stay at the names they currently have. If we've rejected certain schoolbooks, there's no way we'd fall prey to a blog. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:13, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

::I thought this issue was already discussed. Besides, if we did change, do you realize how much of a massive undertaking that would be? We not only would have to alter all articles belonging to James, we'd have to fix up some templates (like {{template|op}}) and go through every article trying to determine if it's correct. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 15:22, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

:::Excellent point. And in my opinion it's such a minute detail to have such a debate over it. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 21:43, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

::::Look, we know that s' is considered the proper. The problem is that it would mess up all the templates we have. Such as <nowiki>{{TP|James|Mime Jr.}}</nowiki>. The template won't work correctly if it's James' Mime Jr. instead. So will you stop bringing this up already? It's impossible to have it this way. We are not doing it to piss users off. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:49, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Actually, no, the s' would be wrong. You put the apostrophe after the s only if it's a plural noun. If James was the plural form of Jame, then it would be appropriate, but since he's one guy, it's James's. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 22:05, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::Everyone has disagreements on pluralizing singulars ending with "S". The only agreement seems to be Jesus and Moses use "s' " for whatever reason.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:08, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Cross was s'--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:19, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:The s' is not the proper way, no more than not beginning a sentence with and. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:21, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::Kuki, some random blog using "s' " doesn't make it correct. Go bring us a document on the proper use of English to support your argument.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:28, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Technically sayin James' and James's means the same thing [[User:Dion24|Dion24]] 23:38, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:...that's not the point.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 23:45, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

== Problem with Platinum-move-standardizing ==

Big problem: Say someone standardizes half of the learnsets in a move and forgets about it. It is put under Platinum standard and no one will know the other half is done. What do we do, manually check every move article? [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 21:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:It's up to the person editing to remember to complete it later. If they don't, we'll find it eventually, just like we do all mistakes in the articles, and can take care of it then. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 21:49, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::A surefire way to find articles with half-converted learnsets is to [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Learnset section box style|use this special page]]. The long-since deleted template that the page is checking for is embedded in old code from the old format, so any article that shows up on that special page has unconverted learnset sections. (I've already gone through and removed the aforementioned old code from all of the pages that have been fully converted.) --[[User:TwinsMetsFan|'''TMF''']] [[User talk:TwinsMetsFan|Let's Go Mets]] - [[Special:Contributions/TwinsMetsFan|Stats]] 22:28, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

== Featured Article ==

I'm surprised this Wiki doesn't have a featured article. Shouldn't there be one? --[[User:Xknight 511|☆X-Knight☆]][[User talk:Xknight 511|511♂]] 05:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
:There was a few days ago. Now there isn't. There will be again, as soon as the admins get around to it. Once the rush of edits with the Platinum release wears down, I'd guess. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 06:26, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I see. Thank you for teh info. --[[User:Xknight 511|☆X-Knight☆]][[User talk:Xknight 511|511♂]] 06:31, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

==Can't create new page...==

I want to create a page for Rui Quintas and Peter Michael, our (Portugal) two James, but the way I use to create pages don't work... I have two ways: one is searching for the page, and then click on the button that says to begin that certain page. Another way I use is when the name of the page I want to create is red in another page, so I click on it and then I create the page...
However, this time, I can't create the page. Even if I put [[]] around their names, it redirects to the list of international voice actors. See for yourselves - [[Rui Quintas]]. And the same thing if I search.
Is there any other way to create pages? Or can you please resolve this little unwanted redirect, please?[[User:Portuguese Old Man|Portuguese Old Man]] 18:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
:Just go to the top of the voice actors' page and you will see the blue link. Click on it and edit it. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 19:00, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
::It was already decided that these people are not notable enough for their own pages. That is why they are redirects. Not even all f the English voice actors are notable enough, so why shouldn't the international voice actors be the same? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:06, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Ok, thanks^^[[User:Portuguese Old Man|Portuguese Old Man]] 19:14, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

== Userspace? ==

I did some searching, but I can't find anything on it. That said:

Is there a policy outlining what can and can't be done with the userspace? Seems that I can't redirect it to my talk page, how about using it as a reminder list for myself or just blanking the damn thing? -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|BCJ]] 04:44, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:Blanking it ought to be OK (it's your page, after all). You can also slap a {{template|delete}} tag on there and let an admin get rid of it altogether. I'd recommend {{bp|signature policy|customizing your signature}} in such a case so it links to your user talk page. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 04:46, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::Works for me, thanks. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|BCJ]] 05:03, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:::just want to throw in that i DON'T suggest deleting user pages, as it gives users the dreaded "red label" (user pages not written) and i have a tendency to scan those person's edits. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 05:08, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::::What? Really? Why? I mean, plenty of people around here just don't have userpages. [[User:Urutapu|One of our sysops]], for example. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 07:34, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Personally, I don't think it's a problem to redirect to your own user talk page from your user page; it was just one time (that I know of) that the situation popped up, and the only reason anyone could think ''not'' to do it was because "nobody else does that". It's fairly normal on most other wikis, if someone doesn't actually have - or want - a userpage, but doesn't like a red link. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 15:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::That's what I was thinking, but someone reverted my redirect saying that 'it should be like that'. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|BCJ]]''([[User talk:Bug Catcher Jam|talk]])'' 21:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::::It's something that has never been cleared up; there's no current rule about it yet, so it may or may not be reverted depending on who sees it. I think perhaps it's time we made a simple userpage policy; we could fit just common-sense things on it (don't edit it too much, don't insult people, etc), and at least have something to point to when we do need to edit people's userpages. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 19:36, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::::And if you don't want the "dreaded red link," as you put it, just change your sig to be a different color (if you don't know and can't find color codes, see [[User talk:Theininen|my talk]] for a couple of links and sigs for the setup), or simply put a generic greeting or contact info (i.e. e-mail, AIM, etc.) and it will be normal blue. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 02:06, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

==Categories==

On the bottom of episode pages there are categories for episodes, how do we create one? I looked and couldn't find out how.

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 21:56, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:<nowiki>[[Category:(whatever)]]</nowiki> at the bottom with the others. Then just make the category. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

== # of moves remaining ==

It's actually 36 + one userpage, to be exact. This is inaccurate because moves outside the DPPt 467 have been updated as well, such as Shadow moves or glitch moves. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 00:44, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:They've been counted. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:30, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, it says 467, which only includes the DPPt ones on [[List of moves]]. Even then, [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Learnset section box style|this page]] would like to have a word with you. Various unstarted and unfinished ones on here. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 20:11, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Woo, we're almost there. 2 almost-finished moves and 2 unstarted moves. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] ''I am not removing this lengthy addition to my signature until all moves have been updated to Platinum standard.'' 15:14, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

:how come it says minus 3 now?
:[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamatecharizard]] 16:23, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

::Because if you put one of the templates used to update it automatically categorizes it, which affects the countdown. In truth, there's really only [[Mud-Slap (move)|one move left]]. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] ''I am not removing this lengthy addition to my signature until all moves have been updated to Platinum standard.'' 16:59, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

:::Platinum ''complete''! [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 18:16, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

::::Sweet. The "Message from the Editor" section of the Main Page should be updated to reflect this. --[[User:TwinsMetsFan|'''TMF''']] [[User talk:TwinsMetsFan|Let's Go Mets]] - [[Special:Contributions/TwinsMetsFan|Stats]] 07:11, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

== Other pictures/Adds? ==

Subject A.) Okay, I was thinking, should we get pictures of 3D appearances and Ranch (normal and Shiny)?

Subject B.) Alright, when I'm on my Wii, I find adds, and some of them are '''absolutely offensive.''' I get some saying "how dumb are you? take our test to find out!" We absolutely need to remove these. All adds.[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 19:40, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
:Nuh uh. It's the other way around: Unless you have some other way to pay for the server costs, the ads have to stay. You can report offensive ads on the forums but I don't think dumbness tests qualify for that. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:43, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
But still... some are a bit offensive.[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 23:37, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

:And like Fabu-Vinny mentioned, you can report those on the forums; there's a thread for just that purpose. Particularly offensive ads can be blacklisted, so they won't show up again. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 00:50, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
::you could also just sign in, and they all go away. can you sign in on a Wii? -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:18, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I've signed into things like Youtube on my Wii, so I think you can sign onto bulbapedia on it. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 13:32, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
I probably could, but on Mariowiki, which has the same set-up, makes it extremespeedly slow.[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 00:12, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Subject A: Probably not. We do not have 3D pictures for Colosseum and XD (even though they're already on the German PokéWiki, nor do we have 3D pictures for Battle Revolution. It would be a good thing to add 3D sprites for all 4 games if PokéWiki were competition to add sprites like such, but we're only competing against it with the select few German-speaking ''and'' English-speaking Pokémon fans. [[User:Gligar|'''Gli''']][[User talk:Gligar|'''gar''']] 18:21, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

On the subject of sprites, we're still missing (in Generation IV) few shiny Diamonds, a few Platinums, and most of the shiny Platinums. Generation III ''really'' needs sprites, as ones such as Lunatone have only Emerald. Generation II is pretty much done, save for some Crystal, and Gen I is finished. Oh, and a non-animated Manaphy Egg Minisprite is all I can think of. [[User:Gligar|'''Gli''']][[User talk:Gligar|'''gar''']] 18:21, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

If images weren't disabled, the project of adding these images in an easy-to-follow 80x80 format would be much easier. [[User:Gligar|'''Gli''']][[User talk:Gligar|'''gar''']] 18:21, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Due to the failure of a computer I'm right now I can't link to it, but the PokémonElite2000 Sprite Resourse has every sprite (I don't actually know about Platinums) including Shinies and Male/Female forms. Since it's a 'resource,' we are perfectly alowed to use them... [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 02:13, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

==User Profile Things==

On user profile pages a lot of people have those icons that say like "this user plays this game" "this user's favorite pokemon is" and all sorts of things. Where do we get these!?

--[[User:KantoLegend|KantoLegend]] 04:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
:{{cat|User tags|here}}. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''zz''']] 07:12, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

==TR==

I've seen many episode guides with "TR" instead of "Team Rocket".
Don't you think it would be better if we had "Team Rocket" instead of "TR" in the episode guides? [[User:Portuguese Old Man|Portuguese Old Man]] 13:09, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:Of course. Change it if it's there. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:16, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

==Name changes==

Is there a way to change your user name?

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 21:49, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:Ask TTE later--[[User:RexRacer|'''RexRacer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 21:50, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== Message from the Editor ==

Under this, "Read more" and "Past messages" both link to the exact same thing. Just sayin'. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 02:55, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

== Easy-To-Use and Correct 'é' ==

I'll venture a guess that plenty of people already know this, but the character code - this works on any text document - for 'é' is 130. So, hold Alt (if you have an Alt) and type a 1, a 3, and 0 then release Alt. Ta-dah! [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 02:17, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
:And if you're currently editing Bulbapedia, it's even easier. Just click on the é in the character palette. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:31, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::In my case, it's also Alt + 0233, which is still just as easy. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 21:40, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:::In my case, I just hit Alt Gr + e. UK Keyboard layout. I can also scream POKÉMON! as a result, by holding shift. Alt Gr is just Alt+Ctrl on one key.. so Alt+Ctrl+e = é as well. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 21:44, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

:::And 2178 works as well...[[User:Kpokefan|'''K''']][[User talk:Kpokefan|'''P''']][[User:Kpokefan/Missions|'''F''']] 21:44, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

== Is there? ==

Is there a tag for Democrats? as in <nowiki>{{User Democrat}}</nowiki>--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Nag at Me!]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Edits))]]

I don't believe so, I think it is just a Liberal tag. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 00:57, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

:Remember, guys. This page is for discussing Bulbapedia's MAIN PAGE only. Not general discussion about the wiki. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:00, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I know, I'm just responding, it's not like anyone else wouldn't afterall. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 01:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

== Featured Articles ==

Umm...I just looked at the page, and we had 2 accepted a couple of days ago, why aren't they on the main page? [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 16:03, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

== Did you know... ==

...that the "Did you know" section of the Main Page hasn't been changed in over a month? [[User:SharKing|'''Shar''''''K''']][[User Talk:SharKing|'''ing''']] 23:31, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== 255 ==

I'm far too lazy to do so myslef, but does anyone want to make an article about the various ways '255' was the highest number (value, really) that the old games could deal with? [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 00:21, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

== This one goes out to all you Senior & Veteran members out there ==

Perhaps we should focus more on User Relations. In the last 30 contributions, we swooped in on a BRAND NEW USER, warned him five times on a policy he is not familar on, deleted his pages before allowing him time to save them elsewhere, and while im currently typing this, im sure someone is attacking him right now. Perhaps we should be more welcoming to the new users and contributors, whom Im sure have good things to add to the site just as much as the rest of us--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Nag at Me!]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Edits))]]
:maybe that new user should read the welcome message and MoS before they make such a number of poor edits and abuse the userspace. this way, we wont need to yell at them. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:44, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
::And understand it all? Right--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Nag at Me!]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Edits))]]
:::I don't know if you want my 2 cents, but I agree with DCM. Often, new contributors need time to get used to the laws of the 'Pedia. I should know-- a few months ago, I made a number of errors. [[User:SharKing|'''Shar'''K'''ing''']] [[User Talk:SharKing|Talk]] 01:55, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
::::and thats fine. users make mistakes, and we certainly dont expect new users to be top contributors right away, but it is stressed that new users should read the [[Manual of Style]] before making any edits. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:04, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::I completely agree with DCM. Perhaps some of you guys ought to get off your high horses, jump wikis and read {{wp|WP:BITE|a fundamental Wikipedia policy}}. I guarantee it'll make this 'pedia a much nicer place to work. -- [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] 09:03, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::Rule 33: Lurk moar. Always the rule. Internet users just need to start getting it like the rest of us. However, jumping on a noob isn't the best thing...
::::::Either way, the reason why we made the welcome was so that we didn't have to jump on people whose first stop wasn't the MOS. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:17, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::How many n00bs are going to stop and read a wall of text? For that is essentially what it is. Wouldn't it be better to make more concise welcome message, with links to pages that extend on the policies? [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 09:20, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

::::::::Perhaps something like [http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Beginner%27s_Guide this?] --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 09:26, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Yes. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 09:37, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Bulbapedia is not for n00bs. That's MY opinion on this. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 09:31, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Perhaps you've forgotten exactly what this is a wiki on? You're going to get many n00bs. And most of them, if not driven away, do become good members. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 09:37, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Uncyclopedia isn't funny. However yes we need to rework the welcoming wall of text. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:35, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::I think so far, my record is that every wiki I've started off on the wrong foot with = I'm an admin there. Unfortunately, I knew what I was doing by the time I got to Wikipedia, so no adminship there. Boo.
::::::::::But yes, just because someone makes a few (or a lot of) mistakes early on, doesn't mean they couldn't become good editors.
::::::::::@TTE: no u. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 10:43, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
(←outdent) I still find it kind of scary that despite all of your "use the link templates" and "do it our way" 'policies' you guys have, there is nothing about being nice to other users. I have even seen a (new?) user's talk page containing a warning about warning a "veteran" about (I think) too many mainspace edits. The response from the third-party user (ie not the "n00b" or "veteran") was "he's been around for a while and stacked up a ****-load of edits, let him do what he wants". Seriously, are there two sets of rule books here? Coz I'd like a copy of the second one! But I highly doubt I'll get that. Anyway, you "seniors and veterans" need to start to consider the fact that Bulbapedia is not just a place with infinite amounts of Pokemon (I mean, Pokémon) info; it's a community where people hang out. We would like to be respected, and offering this respect to new users and old users alike will definitely result in situations like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:TTEchidna/Archive_Nov_08_1#OBAMA this] being avoided, as well as the example I gave above, and much more that I'm sure we've all seen. Reading {{wp|WP:CIVIL}}, {{wp|WP:BITE}} and {{wp|WP:COOL}} would be obvious places to start. For templating, perhaps consider examining {{wp|Template:welcomeg}} for ideas on layout. -- [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] 05:43, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
:Just a note on the first example, Guardian is beyond the "newbie" status for a while now, that discussion got heated for it's points, not because any one user was older then another.
:But yes, some policy on "being nice", be it written or unwritten, could be a good idea at this point. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 06:06, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
::I'm pretty sure the community is more over on BMGf than here. ;-)
::Plus, this isn't Wikipedia. We're not going to go out and become exactly like Wikipedia, except with information on Pokémon instead.
::And thirdly, people should really use their common sense, if they indeed have it.
::@JD, I doubt that an unwritten rule would do all that much, as people can't exactly read something not written. A policy on "being nice" being written down would get there. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 09:18, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
:::[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4#Bulbaquette?|Where does this sound familiar from?]]
:::I like to think that I've done some good work on this wiki--work that I wouldn't have done if everyone jumped on my throat the first few mistakes I made. By the way, when I went to the TFwiki and brought up an idea, they all hated it--but they didn't hate me for it. Partly, it was because I was accepting of their verdict, but partly because they seem to know better than to bite the newbies. We were all "n00bs" once, and we kind of have to accept new ideas if we expect ourselves to continue to grow and evolve. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 09:20, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Being nice and assuming good faith should generally come with experience, but yes, having it in writing would probably be a necessity. I'm a big supporter of [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_a_dick a certain MetaWiki policy], which is used on multiple wikis simply for it's short, to-the-point message. And it's got a cool name. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 09:25, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::GlinnMcGraw - I'm not trying to turn this into Wikipedia, just pointing out some ideas to look at for developing our own policies. And BMGf and BP have different communities - I don't do the forums, and I'm sure there are forum people that don't do BP. Also, most of the users of this website are children (based on the nature of our content). A lot of the time, this age group lacks common sense, therefore we need something concrete. Finally, Jioruji_Derako - I love DBAD! -- [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] 10:05, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::Nor did I say you were, I was simply saying that they are not one.
::::::On common sense, ''I did say if they had it.'' ;-)
::::::New question though, what should the "be nice" policy be based on? DBAD? Start from scratch? [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 10:36, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I don't think the DBAD policy would be the best idea ''here'', simply for the wording. But there are a lot of other options to either borrow from, or start from scratch. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AGF Assume Good Faith] is one policy that spans many wikis, and would work here as well. That's just an example, we could just write up something of our own too (it probably would be about the same, though). --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 13:45, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Well, yes, not DBAD to a word, that much is obvious, just something to base the policy on, such as AGF, would be good. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 13:55, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::I made a draft policy. [[User:The dark lord trombonator/Bulbapedia:Assume Good Faith|BP:AGF]]. Read and review (here or on the sub's talk page). -- [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] 05:23, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

==e-mail problem==

my sister wants an account but she can't do it 'cus we have the same e-mail and as mentioned above in ''The ads'' I hate it when I'm on BulbaNews and the archives 'cus there are '''SO MANY DAM ADS WHY CAN'T WE GET RID OF THEM!''' but I'm getting off topic, the point is, ''is there any way for us to have the same e-mail address?''----[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamatecharizard]] 18:33, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
:OK, OK, calm down... They won't let you use the same e-mail because they think it's "sockpuppeting." That means that someone with malicious intentions uses the same computer and e-mail to have multiple accounts to vandalize the site. Either go make a new e-mail for your sister or go ask an admin to make an exception. [[User:Dialgarules|Dialgarules]] 18:38, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
::She could just make a G-mail, hotmail, etc. otherwise, no.--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:Regarding the ads, just go to your [[Special:Preferences|preferences]], then click the blue "Manage your global account" link. Now, when you login on Bulbapedia, and go to check BulbaNews or the Archives, you will also be logged in there. When you're logged in, no ads will appear - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] '''|''' 18:42, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
::But without an account in the first place, that does no good. I'm pretty sure your sister will have to create her own e-mail in order to get an account. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 18:47, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, for the sister it doesn't but for {{u|Ultamatecharizard}} it will create the BulbaNews & Archives accounts (if not already done), & merge them. For the sister, yes, a new e-mail is required but one can easily be made at gmail, hotmail, etc. like DCM said. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] '''|''' 18:53, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
::::thanks about that espeically about the ads I'll get on it soon----[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamatecharizard]] 22:11, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

== Wow. ==

I see the main page got a makeover. Nice. And the Did you know" section was finally changed! --[[User:SharKing|'''Shar'''K'''ing''']] (([[User Talk:SharKing|Talk to the King!]])) 14:09, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:Happy Ninth, Gold and Silver! --[[User:Jonouchi|Jonouchi]] 14:37, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
::WOOT I can't believe its been NINE years!! [[User:Rucario64|Rucario]][[User Talk:Rucario64|64]] 20:04, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:::And the whole Typhlosion (Echidna) for message from the editor is awesome.--[[User:MisterE13|MisterE13]] 21:29, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Haha, I didn't see the connection there. Should Meganium have a little dancing sprite too (as third starter)? Or is there a secret reason that this non-player of Gold and Silver doesn't realise? — [[User:The dark lord trombonator|THE]] [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|TROM]] — 21:47, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::Its Gorgous.--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::::::I think that a remake will happen before this time next year. Their probably waiting 4 the 10 anneversory of GS --[[User:ShinyPikachu|Pretty Pretty Shiny Shiny]] '''[[User Talk:ShinyPikachu|Dont bug me]]'''

:::::::It's spelled "gorgeous." ShinyPikachu, put a <nowiki></nowiki> after your sig is done. And it's been nine years since GS? Wow... Nine years and nothing has been heard from the ol' Johto region... --[[User:Dialgarules|'''Dialga''']][[User talk:Dialgarules|'''RULES''']] 23:12, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::No, I was referring to the greek philospher, Gorgias. moving on. The sprites are nifty, and i like the color scheme--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:::::::::Meganium wasn't there really because there was no place for it. But I suppose I can put it there... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:33, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::great job TTE----[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 23:52, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::I like it a lot. Wasn't it just recently the 6th Anniversary of Ruby & Sapphire? [[User:Yinyang1195|Yin]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|Yang]] 05:42, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::It looked SO good, couldn't we have kept it, at least until GSDS or generation V?--[[User:MisterE13|MisterE13]] 14:10, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
:It looked tropical to me XD [[User:Tesh|TESH]][[User_talk:Tesh|IGIGAS]] 16:49, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

== Usertags ==

Every time I add a usertag to my page, it gets eaten by the one above. What must I do to stop this (I'm signing here so my signiture won't be eaten as well)? [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 03:43, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Example:
{| class="userboxitem" style="border: 1px solid #082567;" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"
! style="background: #{{normal color}};" | [[Image:OakSprite.png|50px]]
| style="background: #{{water color}}; color: #006;" | This user knows what he is talking about.
|}
Try it now--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 03:48, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
:Closing it would be nice--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:I tried several different combonations of } and |, but in the end I needed help. Thank you for providing it, RexRacer! [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 03:54, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

== Edit request ==

I'm requesting an edit. Please make all the headers smaller, such as making level 1 headers into level 2 headers, level 2 headers into level 3 headers, etc. [[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]][[User talk:Chocolate|((Talk to Me]][[Special:Contributions/Chocolate||Look at My Contributions))]] 01:24, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
:Any particular reason? They seem fine as they are to me, are they showing up too big in your browser or something of the sort? --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 01:31, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
::It should be like that because almost every other page on the 'Pedia has it like that. [[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]][[User talk:Chocolate|((Talk to Me]][[Special:Contributions/Chocolate||Look at My Contributions))]] 01:35, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
:::The text gets much smaller with each added level, however. To make up for the edit, all the headers would need to be giving <nowiki><big></nowiki> tags as well as the additional levels, while the current setup doesn't actually hurt the page. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 01:40, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
::::But I saw something in the MoS before that said to always start out with level 2 headers. Plus, TTE greatly opposes level 1 headers. [[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]][[User talk:Chocolate|((Talk to Me]][[Special:Contributions/Chocolate||Look at My Contributions))]] 01:42, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::Main Page is a different thing. Level 1 headers are fine here. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:59, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::Why are level 1 headers okay on the main page? They're too big IMO. [[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]][[User talk:Chocolate|((Talk to Me]][[Special:Contributions/Chocolate||Look at My Contributions))]] 02:01, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I would say it's the size that makes them okay here. The main page isn't an article in the sense that it's about a certain topic, it's about multiple topics. Thus, the main sections get larger headers then your average article, which only has a single H1 header (the title of the page is an H1 header), and sub-sections in H2 headers. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 04:52, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Consider Bulbapedia as "The BIG book of Pokémon". The Main Page is the cover of the book and will need big titles, and, as you delve deeper into the book, the headers become smaller because they are the different chapters. [[User:Tesh|TESH]][[User_talk:Tesh|IGIGAS]] 20:18, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
:If we sized the biggest heading down, then all the small headings would become way too small. [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arceus''']] 20:20, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

== Dead links ==

What is the official policy on non-existant links? Assuming he isn't planning to create an article for them, should one leave them red or change them to text? [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 20:13, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
:who is creating red links? and dont do it yourself, it shows up in the wanted pages. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:20, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
::I don't think you really intended to, but you answered my question. [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 20:36, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Delete if in mainspace AND if its a mispelling[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::::avoid red links unless its an article that really should be created, like, [[Modified format (TCG)]]. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:41, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::Mostly, let an admin deal with redlinks. They know what to do the most, and they know what is notable and what isn't. All redlinks appear in the Wanted pages, and I check that for mistakes daily...so, an admin will get them sooner or later. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:50, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

== READ THIS ==

[[Talk:List of moves#XD Shadow Moves Are Not ???-type|This]] is a truly annoying error; I want permission to change it...[[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 15:56, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
:Then fix it. its not tough[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

== Shiny and new! ==

Anyone got anything to say for the Main Page? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:58, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah. {{tt|It's great!|However, I would have liked Water-types instead of Grass-types........}} And why not keep them permanently?--'''[[User:Diby|Di]][[User talk:Diby|b]][[Special:Contributions/Diby|y]]''' 10:52, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
:: Was hoping noone would reply.... I actually like it, Nice and clean. But too bad were not gonna keep it permanently....--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|Force]] [[User:Force Fire|''Fire'']] [[User talk:Force Fire|''talk'']] 11:00, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
:::It took me a moment to get used to it. It looks awesome, and incorporates the mascot and colors of the site very well. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 12:23, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

==If we be's making a move template==
I suggest instead ov the typing of the pokémon, like everywhere else, we colour the moves. An example would be, if a pokémon's level-up moves were posion jap and then water gun, it would look like this Poison jab water gun. Who agrees? [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]]

User talk:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions

2008-08-09T11:07:07Z

Strong Intelligent: /* Onix and Misdreavuse prevos */

==Farfetch'd==
If anything, a Farfetch'd evo should be a Normal/Dark or Dark/Flying ninja. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 05:39, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:i like the idea, but im not sure where you are comming from...you mean how he is very elusive and attacks with a stick like a sword? '''[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|PT]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]''' 05:45, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, the leek would become a sword. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 06:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:::i dont think parents would like that, a Pokemon with a sword? '''[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|PT]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]''' 06:14, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:It'd be a leek that looks more like a sword. And that's no more violent than a Pokémon with boxing gloves or one that can pretty much shoot missiles. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 06:35, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
::alright, i like it, a Dark/Flying, keep the name i got, or what do you think? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 06:39, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:::Screw the parents, we have Scyther and is anyone going on about that? No. -[[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 06:41, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Ninjetch'd? It just fits. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 06:47, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

::::oooh, i like that. also, i think Mudkipchan put that comment in the wrong section.. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 06:53, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

ネギニンジ ''Negininja'' would be its Japanese name, from カモネギ ''Kamonegi''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:46, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:um.....sure? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 07:50, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Ninjetch'd signature move could be Super Swords Dance, a move that increase its attack by 3 levels!-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 09:18, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

:hmm, idk, thats rather absurd...there arent any moves out there that that increase any stat more than twice except for belly drum i think, and that halvs HP. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:43, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

::It doesn't make sense that it is the only Pokémon to have a sword but its Swords Dance is the same of the normal one.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 06:03, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

::Or its trigger can be: '''Level-up while holding a Learner's Sword and having Super Swords Dance'''!-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 05:36, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

:::the only way "Super Swords Dance" would work is if it lowered somthing else. 3 levels is too much. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 05:42, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

::::OK, let's lower its Defense for 1 level!-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 10:33, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[[Image: Ninjetchd.JPG]] I made a sprite if you want to use it but I get credit for making the sprite.It is saved under Ninjetchd.JPG [[User:Crystallucario|CrystalLucario]] 14:09, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
:thanks, but im just going to keep with the regular sprites. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

==Babies==
There should be a baby Pokémon that can evolve into either Miltank and Tauros. Maybe one for the Volbeat... guys too. -[[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 05:41, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:And a baby Kangaskhan would definitely be both genders, and males would become Kangaskirk. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 05:42, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:i like the miltank/tauros idea, im not so sure about the Volbeat one (maybe thats because i dont like them) '''[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|PT]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]''' 05:45, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

::Yes to male Kangaskhan and baby, they would both solve the missing link of Kangaskhan. Why Game Freak, why must you torment us! And I don't like Volbeat too. :P -05:48, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:::alright, a male Kahn it is, but what to name it? i like the idea of "Kirk" but that doesnt really fit the evo line name. unless i changed the baby to "Kangasroo" or somthing. '''[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|PT]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]''' 06:03, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:You ''do'' know the reference is to Star Trek, right? Kirk was the one who said KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 06:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

::Kirk is also a name for a boy, of course. :P [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 06:13, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:::well, i know Kirk, and i know the Kahn line, but not everyone knows that, and it still wouldnt look right. itd be a damn good nickname though '''[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|PT]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]''' 06:14, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:::Well, doesn't "[[Kangaskhan]]" sounds sort of like it is based off Genghis Khan (that Mongolian emipre guy??), so maybe name it after his brother/nephew/however that guy was related to him, Kublai Khan? Just putting out the idea. -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 16:52, 27 March 2008 (UTC) (Couldn't make a sig before big testing thing)

::::My opinion, Kangaskhan should of never been able to breed. That would of solved this whole mess. But I guess it's too late for that. --[[Image:048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:123MS.gif]] 06:52, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:::::maybe ill add that to my [[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|other page]] '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 07:04, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

::::: I object. If Kangaskhan couldn't breed, then it still wouldn't explain where the child came from in fact it would probably raise even more questions. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 07:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

::::::thats an even better point. i think the real prob was that they made it a female only with no male, it makes me wonder how they ever exsisted at all!! '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 07:07, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::No the real problem is not the gender. When a Kangaskhan is born.. as soon as it comes out of the egg, it is an adult that is already bearing another kid. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 07:14, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

::::::What I meant was that the players can't breed them. Maybe Kangaskhan could have mated in secrecy. You know, the same as legendary Pokémon. We can't breed them but there's no doubt that they can mate. Just not in front of humans. There is that baby Lugia in the anime. --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 07:18, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:::::::Let the debate begin. :P Joking. Well that is possible... But the Lugias just made me go "Meh." when I first watched the episodes surrounding the two, just being honest here. But I'll give you credit that you do have a point here. But now that Game Freak has made the kanga breedable... that missing link just appeared. And before anyone asks, yes I am too lazy to use my sig. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 07:23, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:::::::yea, im def putting that on my do over page... '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 07:21, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

== New Evolutions ==

You know, the name of the new doesn't always have to match the old. Examples of Pokémon who's names don't have much in common.

#Tyrogue = Hitmon...
#Caterpie = Metapod = Butterfree
#Ekans = Arbok
#Oddish = Gloom = Vileplume or Bellosom
#Meowth = Persian
#Geodude = Graveler = Golem
#Ponyta = Rapidash
#Magikarp = Gyrados
#Nuzleaf = Shiftry
#Wingull = Pelipper
#Ralts = Kirlia = Ga...
#Shroomish = Breloom
#Burmy = Wormadam or Mothim
#Skorupi = Drapion

So vary a little okay?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 07:00, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:good point, I'm just a stickler for that stuff. it always bothered me when Pokémon evolutions didn't have similar cries in the games '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 07:06, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

== Clawsir ==
One more thing i can't stand. Pinsir is a pun on Pincer. There is no such thing as a Clawcer. Only a Claw.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 07:07, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:i did make a note "the name needs work" that being said, what do you think? and do you like the idea of a Bug/Dark type? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 07:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

::Well I love darkness. What do you think you're gonna name it? Clark? Claw and Dark. {This is not funny and is not meant to be funny){{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 07:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:::wow, if it were real, "Clark" would be the best nickname ever. could go the generic route and say "Darklaw" or something '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 07:13, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Hey, Crushir might be a good name.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 22:21, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

:::::not a bad name, but i cant help but feel its a bit generic...i have since renamed it "Guiloreap", i think its still a bit to busy, thoughts? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:49, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

::::::Sorry I was away, watching Saw. I like the reap part but not a big fan of the Guilo.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 00:31, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

== For Gen II, III, IV ==

I think a {{p|Houndoom}} evo would be cool. Also a baby form of {{p|Absol}}. And of course a {{p|Pachirisu}} evo. Maybe it could be a flying squirrel and become Electric/Flying.

Anyway, great choices so far. Can't wait to see more --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 07:08, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:Pachirisu flying squirrel, thats a really good one, ill get one that one. as for Houndoom? idk, hes pretty awesome, ill think about it. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 07:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

::Throw it off a cliff LOL!! That's a good one. Have you ever thought of different Eeveelutions? --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 22:23, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
::I'm all for the idea of a Pachirisu evo, but I'd prefer it to be a pure Electric-type with the Levitate ability.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 22:34, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Also, I think that Rotom could use an evolved form. It would basically be more like Pulseman.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 22:34, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

:why would there be a reason for Levitating Pachirisu? a flying squirrel is a real thing. as for Rotom, yea, i was thinking about it, give folks a reason to have to wait until after the E4 to get him. also, i probably wont do Eeveelutions, theres no real work involved in them, just copy and paste types and stats, and give it a generic name. Drageon, Steeleon, Toxeon, etc..'''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:56, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
::I don't know. I just like the idea of a pure-Electric type.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 01:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

:::well, theres 20 other pure Eelctric-types, im sure almost all of them are better than Pachirisu.. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:06, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
::::With Levitate, it wouldn't have any weaknesses. [[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|S<big>h</big>i<big>n</big>y]] [[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<big>N</big>o<big>c</big>t<big>o</big>w<big>l</big>]]  02:23, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

:::::my stance on '''flying''' squirrel stands. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::Flying squirrels don't actually fly, they just glide. [[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|S<big>h</big>i<big>n</big>y]] [[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<big>N</big>o<big>c</big>t<big>o</big>w<big>l</big>]]  02:52, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
:I'm for the Flying-type Pachirisu. Why? Cause. No weaknesses are just hax, man. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 02:54, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
::i agree, i dispise Sableye and Spiritomb, and thats comming from a hacker! '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:56, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I perfer the pure Electric type with levitate, scince Electric/Flying is basiclly reserved for Zapdos--[[User:Quick Man|Quick Man]][[Image:Ani107MS.gif|{{{2|107}}}]] 21:09, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

:'''FLYING''' squirrel is the way it is. i know everyone wants no weakness, but too bad. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:14, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

== Separating the charts? ==

Why not do that, for evos and prevos? Prevos get one section, evos get another. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:19, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:the idea had come to me, i suppose ill do it tomorrow, its almost 3:00AM '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 07:25, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
::Oh boy, three AM! *grabs a burger and chomps on it* '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:37, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:::well, i have no idea what that was about, but i do have a full time job and i get up at 7, so, i think ill be going now....btw, thanks for cleaning up my page. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 07:43, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

== Drillix ==

How about this. Speedix could be Steel and Dark type, with Dark being the secondary type. I mean think about it, a giant metal drill that moves around on its own seems more like a dual Dark type to me. And it must learn Horn Drill of course. :P [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 17:56, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:i like the idea, but, if hes digging around underground, i think itd make more sence to be ground-type. btw, please tell me you have an idea for a better name, this one is killing me. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 17:59, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
::True that. But Pokemon can't have three typing anyhow.... and battle-wise, he would probably get a 4x weakness to Fighting if he were Steel and Dark type. :P [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 18:04, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I dunno. I always thought that {{p|Onix}} needed a pre-evolution. Onix is '''''WAY''''' to big to be an unevolved Pokémon. Satoshi Tajiri managed to avoid making a pre-evolution for {{p|Rhyhorn}} by giving {{p|Rhydon}} an evolution, and I'd hate for that to happen with Onix.[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 21:21, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
::::thats a really good point...hows about Speedix be an alternative to Onix? (like bellossom) '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:26, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
i changed the name, thoughts? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:25, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== Mawile ==

Evolve The Kucheat! And don't name it Bawile. DO NOT. Or else I will harm you. REALLY. REALLY. BADLY. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:38, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:that would be terrible, and it does need an evolution '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 18:02, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
::toss me some ideas here '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:38, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Japanese name could be Krakcheat. English, Jaworn. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:52, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Oh, and don't forget: Steel/Dark plz. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
::::you dont mind a 4x weakness? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:25, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::Not to Fighting. That's easily solved with Aerial Ace, if it can learn it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 23:47, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::t seems like everything can learn that, and because were making it up, why not?? so hows about "Jawile" '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:18, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Jawile, I guess. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:02, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::クラチート Krakcheat. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:19, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Why did you name the Mawile evo "Kucheat"? That's Mawile's Japanese name. You can't use that. --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 07:19, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

TTE suggested it. However, I believe it will now be changed to Jawile. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]][[Image:Ani202MS.gif|32px]] 07:41, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:I suggested merely to evolve The Kucheat. {{ani|303}} {{tt|Maw!|Meh!}} {{ani|107}} {{tt|Hitmon-chaaaaan!|Holy craaaaap!}} '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:48, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, you did indeed say evolve The Kucheat. My mistake. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]][[Image:Ani202MS.gif|32px]] 07:51, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

:other than the hardcore fans, no one knows Mawiles name is Kucheat. i like the name, so i figured swap the american and jap names around, though, Jawile has come up as well. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 17:17, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::Same with Sonans/Wobbuffet and Sohnano/Wynaut. "That's how it is!" and "Really?" in Japan, a wobbly thing you hit and why shouldn't you in English. Doesn't prevent me from thinking they dropped the ball. Besides, Krakcheat would come from Kraken and cheat, not kuchi and cheat. If anything, Mawile would've been better having its name the same in the US. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 00:17, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:::So, are you suggesting that Krakcheat would be part-squid?--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 00:41, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
::::I dunno. Maybe it could have some elements... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:01, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::yea, im really lost here, so, lets break it down. the name for the new Mawile evo should be: Jawile, Kucheat, Krakcheat, Other. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 08:27, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::Japanese: クラチート Krakcheat. English: Jawile. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 03:29, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::ill probibly ignore the Jap names as i dont really care about them, but i cant help but think that "Jawile" is rather generic '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:00, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
:So do I, but it's better than Bawile. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 02:25, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
::yes it is. besides, i guess if i had one in game i could name it whatever i want. like Doody Head. but i wouldnt, because i know as soon as i did, somehow, someway, you would hunt me down and kill me. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:28, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

==Sableye==
There should be an evolution of Sableye if there's an evolution of Mawile! And it should have Wonder Guard. [[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|S<big>h</big>i<big>n</big>y]] [[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<big>N</big>o<big>c</big>t<big>o</big>w<big>l</big>]]  21:30, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
:yes to evolution, no to Wonder Guard..hehe '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:46, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
::Why shouldn't it have Wonder Guard? [[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|S<big>h</big>i<big>n</big>y]] [[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<big>N</big>o<big>c</big>t<big>o</big>w<big>l</big>]]  21:51, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
::You can see some of my other ideas [[User:Shiny Noctowl/New evolutions|here]]. [[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|S<big>h</big>i<big>n</big>y]] [[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<big>N</big>o<big>c</big>t<big>o</big>w<big>l</big>]]  21:53, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Didn't I already explain to you why NO Wonder Guard? Because a Dark/Ghost type Pokemon has no weakness, and one having Wonder Guard would be entirely unfair and IILEGAL in the metagame. Goodness. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 22:28, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, it wouldn't be invincible. All you would need is a pokemon with Foresight and a Fighting type move. Still, it would be hard. [[User:Random279|Random279]]

:i dont want to sound like a jerk, but no, its not going to happen, if it did, i would stop playing Pokemon '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:20, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

==Breloom==

I think there should be an evolution of breloom, with less weaknesses. Just spitballing. --{{Ani|133}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Darth''']]{{Ani|196}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Cookie''']]{{Ani|197}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|'''Monster''']]{{Ani|471}} 01:11, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:idk, theres not much that can be done there. Breloom is a Grass/Fighting type. theres been no pokemon that gains a type, then gets rid of it. if anything, i was considering a middle evolution because Shroomish is some tiny blob with no limbs and suddenly its a full size FIGHTING type! it didnt even have arms before!! '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 06:17, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
::Never any middle-intermediate evos, and besides... why mess with it when the final product is the same...? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:45, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:::so on that basis, Breloom is untouchable. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
::::It could have another evolution, or Shroomish could have an alternate evo. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 22:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::yea, i suppose, but grass types are so unuseable... '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:24, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

== How? ==

Thr... Thr... Throw it off a cliff!? Are you just being funny are have you gone mad?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 23:30, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:maybe both? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:41, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

== Plusle/Minum ==

Why don't they have a baby form of Plusle/Minum. It could evolve like Tyrogue. And also, they should have an evolved form, and you have to level up Plusle with a MinusCharge, and Minum with a Plus Charge [[User:Random279|Random279]]

:i like that idea, ill think about it '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:22, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

::Maybe they could both evolve into the same thing? That would be a first. (like the idea of charges, they could neutralize them, further this idea of dual prevos for one evo) -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 17:08, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

== Kecleon ==

I think Kecleon might get an evolved form sooner or later. Aside from the fact that it's a mere novelty Pokémon, it lacks {{m|Hyper Beam}} and {{m|Giga Impact}}. The majority of Pokémon that can use those moves are fully evolved.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 20:56, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

:He can't learn those? Certainly something I'll look into. I was also looking into a Ditto or Smeargle evo. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:24, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
:: Yeah, I never realized that until I was fixing up {{p|Kecleon}}'s article yesterday.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 13:09, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

==Lunatone and Solrock==
What about a pre-evolveded forms of Lunatone and Solrock, kind of like Tyrouge, who evolves into at night or day. --{{Ani|133}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Darth''']]{{Ani|196}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Cookie''']]{{Ani|197}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|'''Monster''']]{{Ani|471}} 23:33, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
:makes sence to me, though it seems a tad unnecesary. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:18, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== Arcanine and Ninetails ==

How about Fire/Ghost type evo for [[Ninetails]] and a Fire/Dragon type evo for [[Arcanine]]? Since the two are based on the [[wp:Kitsune]] and [[wp:Imperial guardian lion]] respectivly [[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]] 06:47, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:The only problem: Stone evolutions never evolve. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 06:53, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::i dont see the problem with stone evo pokemon evolving, but Arcanine being a fire/dragon type, hmm, idk. but on my do over page i said Ninetails should be a fire/ghost type. in the mean time, i dont see that as a bad thing. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 17:14, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== Skarmory ==

I really think Skarmory needs an evolution. It has good typing, fairly good moves, but it stats just aren't good enough. It's defense stat is high, but low compared to pokemon such as Aggron, Regirock, and Cloyster. Also, it says on it's Pokedex entrythat it can go over 180mph, but it is slower than pokemon like Magikarp and Rattatta. So, it really needs a faster evolution. [[User:Random279|Random279]]

:done. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 18:41, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I've also been thinking that Skarmory should have a prevolution.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 21:34, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:given Skarmory's 25 catch rate, that wouldnt be a bad idea '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 08:24, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
::Oh so close. Its base stat total is 570. If it was at least 600, and you made a prevolution, it could be a Pseudo-legendary.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 18:46, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Then give it an evelution with more BA stats!--[[User:Quick Man|Quick Man]][[Image:Ani107MS.gif|{{{2|107}}}]] 21:00, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

:idk, it wouldnt really qualify because you can catch Skarmory in the wild '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:17, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

::Doh... Well since ''you'' made Jetmach, you can make it to ''not'' be able to appear in the wild.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 22:20, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

:::technically yes, but most psuedos have rediculous attack stats and Jetmach does not. if i bumped its stats anywhere, it would be Sp. Def. even then, it would fall into the Slaking catigory. powerful, but not psuedo. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:24, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

::::True. Oh well. too bad...{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 22:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

== Dunsparce ==

You haven't thought of a name yet? I don't know if it is good or not but how bout Matrare?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 19:00, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:whats that? mattress and rare? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:01, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::Matte and rare.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 19:02, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::Hello? Are you there? Are you dead?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 19:12, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::yea, i was rearging and modding the page. as for the name, hows about "Mattare"? i think it flows better. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:24, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Sure. It took only an hour for me to decide between one or two "t"s anyway. It looks better without the "r" too.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 19:25, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::I'd suggest the name "Mialoof", but a guy name lydario from Deviantart already made up a Dunsparce evo with that name.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 21:31, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::Can you cite a reference? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 08:23, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Here[http://lydario.deviantart.com/art/MIALOOF-56195203]!--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 18:10, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Not bad. You can change if you want.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 18:02, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Oh MAGNEDETH would have been dead already if he was just sitting there waiting for you to answer.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 18:12, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::It's better. Change it if you want.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 18:58, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::well, untill i can think of another name, ill leave that there. im not stealing his name if i didnt know he created it already.. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:18, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

== My Ideas ==
Lapras, Ditto, Xatu, Quilfish, Heracross, Shuckle, Corsola

Do you think Lapras should have an evolution or a prevolution?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 19:37, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:Lapras'd be good for a prevo. Not evolution, as it's great as it is. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 19:42, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::I have the same thoughts.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 19:44, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::as soon as i saw "Lapras" i thought prevo. also, dont just barf text like that poke102, start a new section. make it somthing like "my ideas" '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:51, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

How bout Luvdisc or Chatot?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 19:53, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

:Ditto doesn't need anything, imo.
:Qwilfish is pretty weak, so I'd think that it'd get an evo.
:Everyone in competitive battling loves Heracross. I think a prevo'd be good.
:Shuckle and prevo'd be nice. GUYS WE DON'T NEED AN EVO FOR THIS THING AND GIVE IT HAX STATS END OF STORY.
:Corsola should get both. :p
:Sableye should get an evo. Something that'd look at Spiritomb and say 'Hey, he's equal to me.' instead of 'Man I wish I was that strong.'
:Zangoose and prevo, yes, Seviper and evo, yes.
:Luvdisc and Chatot should get an evo. Luvdisc does like.. nothing good, seriously. At least I could kick ass with my Chatot.
:Just my little 2 cents. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 19:53, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
I was thinking either evos for Zangoose and Sevi, or Prevos for Zangoose and Viper. {{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 19:55, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:Dammit I had like, 5 edit conflicts on this thing. e_e [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 19:55, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:before i go any further, id like to tell Pokemaniac102 to STOP POSTING ONE THING AT A TIME! i cant reply if i keep getting edit conflicts. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:56, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::Oh I finished.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 19:57, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::ok, i think Luvdisc shouldnt exsist in the first place '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:00, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Are you that heartless?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 20:02, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Luvdisc is a good idea, but Chatot isn't yet. A Shedinja prevo would be good as well. [[User|Random279|Random279]] 20:02 , 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::Shedninja already has one.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 20:05, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::Chatot could probibly use an evo, as for Shedinja, it already has one, its called {{p|Nincada}} '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:07, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::MY FIRST EDIT CONFLICT! Chatot is a great idea.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 20:08, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I mean as in if you breed Shedinja it will hatch into this and not Nincada. This page really needs less edit conflicts. [[User:Random279|Random279]] 20:12, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::::IT IS GENDERLESS!{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 20:13, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Ditto is genderless, and you can breed that! [[User:Random279|Random279]] 20:15, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::i can breed Magnemite, the real point is that theres no reason to have a Shedinja thing '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:16, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== Random ==
There should be a Bug/Ice type evo, or maybe a Bug/Electric. [[User:Random279|Random279]] 20:31, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:well, i was thinking Voltbeat and Illunice, or something to that effect. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:35, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::I would've thought that Volbeat and Illumise would have evos that were Bug/Electric and Bug/Fire respectively.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 21:34, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Actually I was thinking Volbeat has an evo with Bug/Fire and Illumise an evo with Bug/Ice. But, I'll stop placing comments here if it keeps bothering MAGNEDETH.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 03:40, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
::::no, its fine, i was just getting annoyed when 4 people are editing and i get conflicts. as for the Pokemon, well, they are LIGHTNING bugs, arent they? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 08:25, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

== Misdreavus/Murkrow ==

Misdreavus and Murkrow need a pre evelution, They got weaker with their new evelutions Mismagius and Honchkrow, Repectfully. Murkow aire my favorite Flying type Pokémon and I just didn't like the fact they got weaker. Misdreavus has the best attack in Pokémon (Pain split) and is exclusive to that family without sketch/Breeding and Mismagius is just creepy, so I think that is why Misdreavus needs a pre Evelution, so it isn't as weak to that creepy excuse for a pokémon!--[[User:Quick Man|Quick Man]][[Image:Ani107MS.gif|{{{2|107}}}]] 21:39, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

NO They both are already too weak.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:41, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:Weaker? Wha? Honchkrow is more powerful that Murkrow. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 03:31, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::...uh. Anything that got an evo, imo, doesn't need a prevo.
::Also, creepy isn't a good excuse for a prevo. At all. >_> [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 03:33, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Anything that JUST got an evo needs no prevo. Wait a couple gens. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 04:02, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Mismagius makes Misdreavus usable, and Honchkrow is incredibly powerful. yea, his defence sucks, but his attack is 125!! '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:21, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
::::I personally consider 120+ in any stat excellent, especially in Attack or Special Attack. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 10:26, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

== Luvdisc ==

Why shouldn't Luvdisc get an evo. It is nearly as pathetic as it gets.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 22:33, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

:Luvdisk is getting an evo, and im quite happy with it, just give me time to post it, ive been incredibly busy recently. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:18, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

== Eules and Hikorisu ==

You don't mind if I use them on [[User:TTEchidna/New evolutions|my own new evo page]], do you? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 10:24, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

:go for it '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:19, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

== Choking and Notyp ==

I think weezing should have a new evolution that is both poison and dark, It could evolve by dusk stone and maybe be called Hakking. It would have a much greater movepool if it was half dark. (Sorry, I did not mean to put it on here twice!!)[[User:Moldy orange|Moldy orange]] 18:11 10 January 2008

Hakking? That's a name I came up with for a Koffing pre-evo! --
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 02:04, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

: I made a Hakking too! It evolved from [[James's Weezing]] along with [[Jessie's Arbok]] becoming Nohtyp. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 03:27, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

:hmmm, Weezing evo, makes sence to me, while were at it, lets give Arbok one too. maybe they could return to the anime for jessie and james!! '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:20, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

alright, im sure people wont be happy with Choking getting arms and legs. as for not using "Hakking" i decided it was too close to "hacking" as in cheating. as for "Nohtyp", i dont want to sound like a jerk, but i cant give you credit for it because while creating it myself, i gave it the same name. i didnt know you had also called it that untill i came here to post this that im typing right now. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 06:04, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

:I always envisaged a Poison/Ice Weezing evo... Sneezing... -- [[User:The dark lord trombonator|SeriousDom]] 08:32, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
::HA! i like the idea, very creative, but it doesnt really fit in with the Wheezing evo-line, especially now that i already gave him a new evo. besides, it would probibly look too much like Glalie. though, it does give me a hankrin for more odd duel-types. Poison/Ice, thats a new one, isnt it? -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

== Ringust ==

yes i know [[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] already has a Chimecho evolution on his page, but i thought of this a few days ago, i just didnt get around to it untill now. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 05:35, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

== About the Onix evo ==

Pokémon can't hold two items at the same time. --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 00:57, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

:oops, fixed. sucks because that sounded good too...do you like the "Super Quick Claw"? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:03, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

:Hell yeah! XD. It'd be cool if that item's battle effect was to guarantee a first strike every single time. --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 01:07, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
:well, now yur just talking hax. but i figure, more effective version of the Quick Claw, as in, works twice as often. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:09, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

== Suudsu ==

It's gummi bears and milk in the same glass. That's The Che-- I mean, the Kucheat's favorite drink. ;) [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 01:23, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
:thats disgusting, but thanks for telling me '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:28, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
::Skim milk. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 05:59, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
:::i dont like skim milk, but, thats prefrence i guess '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:57, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

== Chemical Plant ==

Level up near chemical plant?!

Spiderman, Spiderman, does whatever a spider can....

Maybe Ariados bit spiderman? --{{Ani|133}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Darth''']]{{Ani|196}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Cookie''']]{{Ani|197}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|'''Monster''']]{{Ani|471}} 01:56, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

:well, he could i suppose, but Spiderman was via radioactive spider bite. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:07, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I know (GAH) just found the similarity humorous :) why not call him arachna dude? Thank you Nuklear power!--{{Ani|133}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Darth''']]{{Ani|196}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Cookie''']]{{Ani|197}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|'''Monster''']]{{Ani|471}} 02:11, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

:well, his name is "Arantula" as in "arachnid" and "tarantula" '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:14, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

you should include a chemical name in their. Just spitballin --{{Ani|133}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Darth''']]{{Ani|196}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Cookie''']]{{Ani|197}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|'''Monster''']]{{Ani|471}} 02:15, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

:hmmm, Mercantula, Mercury and Tarantula. it just doesnt work as well.. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:17, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

how about Vanatula= Vanadium+Tarantula

It may not be poisinous (I think) but it was discovered, then incorrectly declared not an elemant (you know, maybe it was declared a shiny ariados, or something) --{{Ani|133}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Darth''']]{{Ani|196}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Cookie''']]{{Ani|197}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|'''Monster''']]{{Ani|471}} 22:12, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
:giving it an elemental name doesnt really fit. chemicals and elements arent really similar...i could say that maybe the Steel Factory produces lots of waste which attracts poison pokemon. or maybe, a ladfill? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:59, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

== Problem with Ariados and also evolutions. ==

Arantula is ALREADY a Paper Mario 2-enemy. There can't be a pokémon with the same name as a Mario enemy? 
BTW, I got some good evolutions:

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[[User:Arend|Arend]]

youve got some good ideas, why not create your own page and post them? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:08, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

== Long time since an addition ==

Haven't been here in a long time. Stopping to smell the roses. *breathing in and coughing* Good Night {{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 03:17, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:yea, ive been rather busy. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:39, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::Finally...{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 18:07, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
:::yea, just some quick ones that came to me. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:02, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
::::I see{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 19:14, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

== Shuckle/Ditto!! ==
{{p|Shuckle}}? I don't know why, but he has been around a while, and no one really knows about him. Despite your "dislike for tanks" (yes, i read your hate page, but still, i think that he deserves a little consideration!!), I think that he should get a ''little'' recognition!

Ditto deserves an evo!!! It's been around since Gen one, and IT CAN STIL ONLY LEARN ONE MOVE!!! c'mon, he deserves ''SOMETHING'' better, right? someone agree with me ''please'' -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 03:01, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
:Essentially all a Ditto evo would and should be is a bigger blob with higher defenses and Speed. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:43, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
:shuckle cant evolve because hes already a super tank. what more could he have? as for Ditto, its really not worth it. TTE is right. just more blob and slightly better stats. no one would use it for anything but breeding anyway. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:06, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, if Ditto learned some moves, he could at least be ''used''. Seriously, who have you seen that uses a Ditto for battles? As for Shuckle, if his def was lowered, atk raised, mayb he would be..(for lack of a better word) better? see my customs page (after we can use userpages again) for a kind of cool idea i had for him. -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 02:13, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
::::well, you have to realize, Ditto is solely a copy pokemon. it copies the opponent. thus the name, Ditto. as for Shuckle, its specifically designed as a tank. and thats it. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:09, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::And you can make an evolved form that is a more complex tank'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|{{Color|FF0000|Po}}{{Color|FFFF00|ke}}]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|{{Color|00FF00|Ma}}{{Color|00FFFF|ni}}{{Color|0000FF|ac}}]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|{{Color|FF00FF|102}}]]''' 23:53, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::you go right ahead. i do not endorse the usage of Tanks. i can say that the only thing Shuckle needs is more HP, but that would just make me hate him more. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:17, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::wow, how pkmnist of you'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|{{Color|FF0000|Po}}{{Color|FFFF00|ke}}]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|{{Color|00FF00|Ma}}{{Color|00FFFF|ni}}{{Color|0000FF|ac}}]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|{{Color|FF00FF|102}}]]''' 00:33, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::::is that a pun of "racist" ? -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:35, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

== Skarmory Evo ==

Can not happen. If nintendo was to create a Skarmory Evo, then he would be the bewst pokemon ever created, because the common set for him is Spikes, and Whirlwind, killing everything slower than him. If you increase his speed so he is RIDICIOUSLY FAST!!!! then his evo can outrun everything, leaving them fully open to unstoppable Whirlwinds+Spikes[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 21:33, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
:Better it than Garchomp... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:04, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::im not 100% sure, but you cant Whirlwind a Magnezone with Magnet Pull, and in turn, you could destroy Skarmory with one Thunderbolt. if it does NOT effect it, then even so, the turn Skarmory uses spikes would be offset by some delicious Thunderbolt. that or we could just take away spikes from Skarmory. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:08, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Ahh, but having one evolution that is able to kill him would be absoluletly useless, espically if the evo can learn ANY GROUND MOVE[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 00:52, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::::well, Skarmory/Jetmach should not be allowed to learn ground attacks, nor spikes. in reality, im not sure where the problem lies as far as Skarmory is concerned, its much slower than most other competitive pokemon. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:56, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::Yes, but your evo makes it faster. That is my problem[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 01:06, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::then ill give it a new ability. "Mach 1" - Increases high speed attacks 20% (like quick attack), but disables the use of ground-type attacks. actually, that sounds like pretty cool ability. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:17, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::::See, that makes sense[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 01:18, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

== Chimecho evo ==

U said that it should be part Flying, but don't u mean Steel?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 04:10, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

== Heracross and Pinsir Evo/Pre-evo ==
I reckon an evolution or pre-evolution that links Heracross and Pinsir together. You know like a larva form of the two or something. Also instead of always having Eevee evolutions why can't Nintendo chuck in a Eevee preevolution? [[User:Big Johnno|Big Johnno]] 18:20, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

== Persian's Evolution ==

It doesn't look like you have a name for this yet, so how about doing something related to "yowl?" Like Meowth has "meow" and Persian has "purr" (even though it's more related to Persians), so this new evolution can have "yowl!" Also, cats yowl when they seem to want something now, so we could have this Pokémon act impatient and snobby, I guess. :o Another option for a name would be Siamese, or something related to that, to go with the Persian theme. But it doesn't seem very Pokémon-like, so.. Anyways, those are my suggestions! - [[User:SpontaneousCombusken|spontaneous'''Combusken''']] 04:06, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
:well, i cant edit it, but ive been thinking about "Hissker" like "Hiss" and whisker". -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:28, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

==Onix and Misdreavuse Prevos==
In my opinion, something that big can't hatch from an egg. So Onix needs a prevo. Misdreavus could have Weeyitch: a baby witch. [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]]

User talk:Strong Intelligent

2008-08-09T09:15:35Z

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:Thanks. Do colons work here? Anywho, I'ma try follow your info. I also believe that the rules here are similar to other places (No swearing, good grammar...) [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]]

==Please==
Slow down on editing the <code>User:</code> namespace. Editing your userpage too much will lead to it being locked again. Instead of making multiple small edits, why not instead use the preview button (Alt + Shift + P) to check your edits before saving the page. Thank you. --'''[[User:Misty-may-dawn rulz|Misty-May-Dawn]] [[User talk:Misty-may-dawn rulz|rulz]]''' 12:48, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
:Buuuuut, I made a Userpage, 5 mins later, a small edit and then a subpage. I may have only been here 3 hours, but I know when to edit. [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]]
::3 userspace edits and no mainspace edits in 3 hours '''is''' quite a lot. I would not have intervenned if you had made any true contributions. If you know how to and when to edit, use your knowledge to edit in the mainspace.--'''[[User:Misty-may-dawn rulz|Misty-May-Dawn]] [[User talk:Misty-may-dawn rulz|rulz]]''' 04:20, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, he's technically right, but 4 or more edits without anything else is where we go for warning bells, man. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:06, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
::::AND, I made an edit on the Arceus talk page, made my edit on THIS page, went out for three hours came back, looked around and checked the HRFwiki. You guys are STRICT! BTW, is there anyone with asperges syndrome here? [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]]
:::::The strictness is a side-effect of the seemingly endless stream of userspace edits that was constant before the space was locked down in March. Also an example of why the fan-wiki idea that keeps cropping up is such a good one.
:::::On the subject of which: I've started [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=30511 a thread] on the forums to discuss it. Ideas tend to get more attention there than on talk pages here, so hopefully we'll be able to attract people interested in creating and maintaining such a wiki. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 09:14, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Am I going to get credit for the idea? [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]]

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Congrats on all of the hits. I'm only confused on the gender demographic.[[User:GJPal|GJ]] 01:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

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::I don't know whether Quantcast screwed up, or whether they're actually referring to a separate site. See, http://www.bulbapedia.com isn't affiliated with Bulbagarden or this wiki, to my knowledge. We're a different web address. So, either Quantcast's research does reflect our site and they just assumed our suffix was .com, or those stats actually have nothing to do with this wiki. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
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::::wow, i didnt know that many of you guys were asain... -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:09, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::I wonder, can Quantcast tell the difference between Asians and wannabe-Asians? A good number of users here use Japanese or Japanese-inspired names... my name's Japanese-inspired, and I'm born in NYC. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 03:16, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::I'm vietnamese, that's asian, but I was born in LA, the state~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]][[Special:Random|102]] 03:20, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Thanks for the correct info. There is still more girls though. I thought girls didn't exist on the Internet. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:GJPal|GJPal]] ([[User talk:GJPal|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GJPal|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
::::::::they dont. its just lots of boys using their mothers computer. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Or as World of Warcraft has shown us, its just guys pretending they are girls....[[User:Oak-leaf Knight|[[User:Oak-leaf Knight]]]] 04:42, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Does that mean Tina? PachirisuLover12? Pie? Zhen Lin? no, he is a boy~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]][[Special:Random|102]] 04:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::they could be. we dont know. thats the magic of the internet. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
You said it, not me...[[User:Oak-leaf Knight|[[User:Oak-leaf Knight]]]] 04:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:Begs the question on why guys would want to act as girls.
:...On second thougts, don't answer that. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 05:27, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::Errrr, I don't know. They want to be gay? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:30 4 Jun 2008'''''
:::I'm a G.i.r.l. too! (Guy In Real Life) --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 10:21, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
----
Well done, Bulbapedia. You have crawled your way up into the ranks where when people search for Pikachu, they get our page on Pikachu. Well done indeed...'''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:24 17 Jun 2008'''''
:Right behind Wikipedia's article on Pikachu, of course. :D --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 11:35, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::We're ahead for every other Pokaman. Proves how hard our contributors have been working. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''12:54 17 Jun 2008'''''

== Who Misspelled Categorized and Categorizing? ==
Fix the spelling. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:AaronV28|AaronV28]] ([[User talk:AaronV28|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/AaronV28|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:Typical human response. It's American English, not British. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''07:24 2 Jun 2008'''''
::American English would have the "z" in catergorizing. Since we use American English, it should be changed. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 12:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::It has been stated not to change from one to the other for the sheer sake of it. Either can be used, but American English is preferred. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 12:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Wait, ''where'' is it misspelled anyway? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::I changed it. It should be the last one in the history. That's why Glinn yelled abut changing it. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:59, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yelling GENERALLY USES CAPS LOCK LIKE THIS to emphasise its point. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 08:02, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I used yelled as a generic term. Would you rather I have said {{tt|talked|or wrote?}} matter-of-factly? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 14:51, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

== Collapsible Navboxes ==

can bulbapedia do collapsible boxes, and if so, how? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|Talk}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|Contribs}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|Mudkipz}}''' 21:14, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:We can, yes, we just haven't yet because we're against pretty much just jacking everyone's code. We likely will soon enough. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:51, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::But wikipedia and bulbapedia both run on mediawiki, so everything that works on one will work on the other, so why the big 'stealing other wikis code is not nice' thing? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|Talk}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|Contribs}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|Mudkipz}}''' 23:02, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Depending on the .js or .css coding we use, there's a few that are out there specifically to be used by anyone, so they're safe to take. I know of two types of collapsible boxes, I think... if I can just find the right one, I can check the source on it, it's easy enough to get up and running. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 09:32, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
::::is it done yet? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 11:37, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::I don't think I like them... They make things inconvienent and they subtract from the pages overall view. They make articles look lesss...complete. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 11:39, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::They've been added now. Inconvenient is only a matter of perspective; yes, you need to click to read everything, but at the same time, on pages that need collapsible boxes, it's easier to find what you're looking for when the big stuff's hidden initially. Anyway, see [[User talk:Poke/CollapsibleTables.js]] for the coding and instructions. You can format and color the tables just like any other table, so no worries about messing up themes or a page's "overall view". --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 00:15, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

== Anime pics ==

How do you get pictures of the anime episodes? If I try to play one on my computer and press "Print Scrn", the window where the video was is black. Is there any way around this? --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 23:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:We just get them fro Filb.de. But if you have Windows Movie Maker or some other type of movie maker, you can take screenshots from there. I'm sure websites like Filb.de use some special kind of program to get screenshots. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:07, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::DVD Shrink saved the DVD as a .ifo file, and Windows Movie Maker won't let me open it. What file type do I need to convert it to and how do I convert it to the correct type? --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 23:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

::: [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=RNWE%2CRNWE%3A2005-03%2CRNWE%3Aen&q=.ifo+converter] [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 03:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I have the "download codecs automatically" box checked, and I'm on an administrator account, but I get the error message:

<pre width="100%">The file F:\My Documents\My Videos\Pokémon The Rise of Darkrai.avi cannot be imported because the codec required to play the file is not installed on your computer. If you have already tried to download and install the codec, close and restart Windows Movie Maker, and then try to import the file again.</pre>

I've tried closing and restarting Windows Movie Maker several times but it still gives me the error. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 20:47, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

:If you could pause it without messing up the image, maybe you could just photo it. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
::A lot of video players have a feature that allows you to take screenshots. Media Player Classic is a good one. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:05, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

== James' not James's!!!!!! ==

EVERY SINGLE POSSESIVE FORM FOR JAMES ON THIS SITE IS WRONG! The possesive form of James is James', NOT James's[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 13:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:Then fix it when you see it's wrong. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 13:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:: Actually, both ''James's'' and ''James''' are [http://www.bartleby.com/141/strunk.html#1 accepted] [http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/possessives.htm possessive] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostrophe#Possessive_apostrophe forms]. (Note that that the 's is insisted upon in the ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MLA_style_manual The MLA Style Manual]'', as well as the ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elements_of_Style Elements of Style]'' which I believe is the writing standard we follow at Bulbapedia) The key is uniformity in the writing, thus, why ''James's'' is used on the Bulbapedia. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 13:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Now that they are moved, doesn't that mean we have double redirects everywhere?!? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]''
::::But proper english has '''s''' not '''s's'''. See here http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handouts/grammar/g_apost.html [[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 14:01, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::Okay, I'll get right on that. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 14:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::: The links I provided clearly state that ''both'' are in fact "proper English" and anyone that has written professionally adheres to the ''Elements of Style'', and ''The MLA Style Manual''. I would ask about this on the forums before going wild with editing and redirecting everything.
:::::::I really don't think that this will work because both the OP and the TP Templates/shortlinks only work and will result in James's Pokémon. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 14:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::The very page you cite does not support your claim. I quote, "add 's to the singular form of the word (even if it ends in -s)". James is, of course, singular. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 15:18, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::I asked my English teacher today, and it confirmed my thoughts that it's always just an apostrophe at the end of a name if the name ends with s. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 17:01, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Let's not forget it's the same English teachers who tell us that prepositions are not appropriate words to end sentences with. They are not always correct. '''James's''' is correct and the standard on Bulbapedia, end of discussion. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 02:05, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
And apparently there are people who will never learn. Due to actions by a user called, fittingly enough, {{u|Arbok and Weezing}}, every article starting with "James's" can no longer be moved by someone who doesn't have sysop powers. This blatant disregard for style left me with no choice. This whole issue has been discussed over and over again, and still people insist that the "James's" way is 100% incorrect. Please contact a sysop if a legitimate title change is necessary (such as [[James's Mime Jr.]] evolving, NOT changing [[James's Chimecho]] to "James' Chimecho"). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 06:05, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Isn't it funny that people are fighting over whether an "s" goes on the end of James or not? People should learn that it's a certain way on Bulbapedia and that they should abide by it.--[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:16, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:It's not so much that they argue...it's just...are ''tantrums'' necessary? And English is probably the worst of them all in terms of consistency. There's ten million ways to do everything. (So yeah...no screaming about it please.)--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 08:00, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
::This is probably where it is confusing people. There is a rule for names ending in "s" "vowel" "s". They probably think James falls under it when it doesn't. The only two names that do are Jesus and Moses. So those are the only two names and they actually should be Jesus' and Moses'. Those are the ''only two!'' ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 13:20, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Correction, I asked the Advanced Placement English teacher from my school which it should be (who has a doctorate in english!) and she said that it should always be James's and the only ones that do apply (Jesus and Moses) can actually go either way. So from now on, it should be James's, the ''correct'' way! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 13:36, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

== Wait a sec...... ==

How does this user [[User:SharkJamez]] have stuff on the user account if he joined after the 24th of march.
*20:08, June 6, 2008 SharkJamez (Talk | contribs) New user ‎
(When he joined)
[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 13:59, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

:That's due to the content having originally been posted on the talk page. Even prior to the userspace ban, there were instances where people had posted content more appropriate for the User namespace in the User talk namespace, and since this content didn't appear to be a blatant attempt to get around the userspace ban, the content was moved. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:14, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

== Look what I found ==

Look at this video I found on Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsopjAc2xok

--'''''Posted by''''' [[User:Deadlymethane|'''''Deadly''''']][[User talk:Deadlymethane|'''''methane''''']] '''at''' 20:16, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:Interesting. Too bad it doesn't really have a use yet. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Unown Q]] 03:40, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::It worked for me. I'm pressed for time, though, and not keen to experiment a lot. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:43, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:::What do you mean it has no use? If no AR was used used in that video, then you could get the events with tweaking. --'''''Posted by''''' [[User:Deadlymethane|'''''Deadly''''']][[User talk:Deadlymethane|'''''methane''''']] '''at''' 23:08, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I still cant figure out how to tweak.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 00:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::Go crazy on the D-pad. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:05, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

== My talk page ==

Is gone. Completely gone. As In I can not find any history, or anything...[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 18:32, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:Boo-hoo. Don't use it for useless blog crap this time. That's not what it's for. [[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]] 18:36, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::I did not use it for useless Blog $%^#. And even if the admins think I did, a warning would have been nice.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 18:38, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Your talk page had nonsense on it. We have been told to delete anything not having to do with Bulbapedia. Don't use your talk page for nonsense next time. You're not the only one this is going to happen to. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 18:39, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::::If I had been told that it would be wiped, I would have taken the axe to all the junk..... once again, would have been nice to have been forewarned[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 18:41, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::::You had ''fanfiction'' on it. What exactly do you think the forums are for if you're cluttering the wiki up with tripe like that? [[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]] 20:40, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::::This has gone way beyond the point of "warning" people. Honestly though, you have been warned. The discussion on the Bulbapedia forum has been going on for long enough that everyone should have seen what was going to happen, and what kinds of things are unacceptable. This junk in the user space that has nothing to do with Bulbapedia has been killing the server, and we've put up with it long enough. If you want to store fanfiction on Bulbagarden, that's what library.bulbagarden.net is for. If you want to have long discussions about any topic, that's what BMGf is for. --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 00:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Users with talk-page content that isn't about Bulbapedia should be warned ahead of time to give them time to back up the pages (this obviously applies only to things like fanfiction that the user might actually want to keep). --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 01:03, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:They can retrieve the information from the history, so it really makes no difference if they're warned or not. --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 01:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, when it is delted, you cant pull back from the history. And I already kiled the fan fic.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 01:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:::When removing stuff from talk pages, it's a much better idea to blank the page, not delete it. Deletion does absolutely nothing that blanking wouldn't do in this situation; the pages are still retained in the server database. At the very least, give users the ability to see ''what'' got deleted. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 01:53, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== Bots ==

How do you create bots? I want to make one myself rather than having someone else make one for me. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 16:12, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:If it isn't something that would be possible for me to do, I'd like a "shortcut" bot, named ShinyBot, that would change the following shortcuts into the correct code (to make editing easier by causing users to have to type less):

/d\→δ

/e\→é

/m\→♂

/f\→♀

//''Pokédex number''\\→<nowiki>[[Image:</nowiki>''Pokédex number''<nowiki>.png]]</nowiki>

/>''page name''<\→<nowiki>#redirect[[</nowiki>''page name''<nowiki>]]</nowiki>

/[''image name''][''image height''][''image width''][''title''][''page name'']\→<nowiki>{{Imagelink|</nowiki>''image name''<nowiki>|</nowiki>''image height''<nowiki>|</nowiki>''image width''<nowiki>|</nowiki>''title''<nowiki>|</nowiki>''page name''<nowiki>}}</nowiki>

More shortcuts possibly coming...

--[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 16:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

:Why not simply use the character palette? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 19:21, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

::As opposed to creating a bot who's job would be to make every edit into two edits. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 19:24, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

== Images ==

The images [[Image:Escape Formula Example 2.png]] and [[Image:Escape Formula Example 3.png]] don't show up, despite the fact that I've uploaded them ([[a:Image:Escape Formula Example 2.png]] and [[a:Image:Escape Formula Example 3.png]]). --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 21:22, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

:It's a bug. Images uploaded on the Archives may not show up on the Bulbapedia side at first. The situation usually sorts itself out over time, so I'd recommend leaving them as is--it'll probably fix itself eventually. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:25, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

== Userspace ==

No, this isn't another whine or complaint, it's an idea. Instead of having the admins try to find some complex programming to make a edit limit, why not try to ask Bulbagarden to make a new area to put the userspace in? Have the userspace from the forums, the archives, the wiki, everything, on a new server? Just thought I'd throw the idea out there and have someone at least tell me why it won't work. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 17:42, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:Servers aren't free. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 17:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, but put some of the donations from all the divisions toward it, and tell people that it would bring back the userspace... [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 17:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

There's honestly no reason to actually have a userspace, i liked it better when i couldn't see mine. It's pointless unless you really want people to know every detail about you, IMO.[[User:Boywonder01|'''Boy''']][[User talk:Boywonder01|'''wonder''']][[Special:Contributions/Boywonder01|'''01''']] 17:52, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Why not just redirect all userspace pages to talk pages and be done with it? -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Unown Q]] 22:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:at this point, it looks like the userspace will be dissallowed and user pages will have little information on them. seriously, you join to edit and contribute, not to show off [[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|your ideas]]. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Something to think about: Over on MarioWiki, one of our admins started a separate wiki (through wikia) called Userpedia, which is for all the community and fan crap. That might be a good solution to Bulbapedia's problems. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Unown Q]] 22:51, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:I had heard about that, that's sort of what gave me the idea. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 00:43, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
::It works out rather well, with the occasional overlap. I recently proposed to my fellow admins about doing what Bulbapedia did and just block all userspace edits. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Unown Q]] 01:00, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:I kinda like this ban, it weeds out the trolls and Bulbapedia moves forward.Of course, if it's permanent, you know the trolls will call shenanigans on the admins and the entire wiki.[[User:Boywonder01|'''Boy''']][[User talk:Boywonder01|'''wonder''']][[Special:Contributions/Boywonder01|'''01''']] 01:12, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:the idea may be an easy way out, but Zhen doesnt have the money to support ''another'' server. especially one for users to play around on. especially considering he already has [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/index.php something like that]. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:31, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:: [http://www.wikia.com/ Free solutions do exist.] -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Unown Q]] 03:30, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Wikia's only free money-wise. You pay for it in plenty of other ways. Trust me. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 04:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

::::Can someone tell me what servers are? I know thats what host the site, but what are they? [[User:Patriotfan09|'''Patriot''']][[User talk:Patriotfan09|'''fan''']][[User_talk:Patriotfan09/Phantom_Gym|'''09''']] 04:23, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::A Server is just a computer that has the entire website saved on it, basically. A much bigger computer then normal, of course... --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 06:28, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Why not delete the user pages and user talk pages of users who dont use bulba anymore?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 18:13, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::But then you have the problem of, what designates a user who doesn't use bulbapedia anymore? You can't ask them if they still use it, you can't be sure they'll give you an answer. Lots of users "lurk" (use the site, but don't necessarily edit all the time). Maybe a year's worth of inactivity, but that's not exactly easy to enforce.
:::::::I think userspace is still an important thing to have; it's always good to know who's who. A name only tells you so much. But there's a lot of stuff that doesn't need to be on a userpage. I want to know the editor, not know every little detail about the person and their family. K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple, Stupid) is a good rule for userspace.
:::::::Re-enabling userspace with restrictions, either on size, or scope, or number of edits, or all of the above... seems like a good idea. The problem is, how to do this simply. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 18:28, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the info. [[User:Patriotfan09|'''Patriot''']][[User talk:Patriotfan09|'''fan''']][[User_talk:Patriotfan09/Phantom_Gym|'''09''']] 22:56, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

== Wouldnt this be cool? ==

wouldnt it be cool that the day we get our 10,000th article we could have like an online party or something. or just like a celebration if we could find a website that could do that or something. but it would be fun wouldnt it!

its just an idea...

--[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 22:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

==Contents==
Hey, what happened to the contents column on the pages???????? --[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 03:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:Which pages are you talking about in particular? Any examples?
:I believe if they're not showing up at all, there's an option in your preferences to turn them off, so check that you didn't turn that on by mistake... --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 13:06, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

::Ok And I mean on every page i go on --[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]]
:::Still works for me, on all the pages that should have Contents (ToC is, by default, only visible if there's about three or more sections on the page). Check your preferences, is my bet. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 16:20, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

== My Pokémon Ranch ==

This is a new game avaliable for download on Wii (and since it is WiiWare, you have to have WiFi). As I was playing earlier, I realized that when Haley brings in Pokémon to the ranch, a description of the species appears. I'm not sure if it's identical to any descriptions so far, but I think it might be useful if it's put under "Pokédex Description" on the appropriate pages, though it's not really a Pokédex. [[User:Crüsäder|Crüsäder]] 14:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

:Could be worth a shot since Gen I & II Pokémon have their "Stadium" descriptions. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:19, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

::The only problem is, it doesn't show descriptions for all Pokémon, only the ones she brings in (as far as I've found, anyway). [[User:Crüsäder|Crüsäder]] 18:24, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Oh... Then maybe it's not that notable. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:37, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
::::If we can get a full set, it will probably be worth adding. How many Pokémon species can she bring in? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::She usually brings in one a day. [[User:Crüsäder|Crüsäder]] 16:09, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Is there potential for her to bring in one of every kind of Pokémon? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:42, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

You can have 1000 Pokémon in there so if anyone is willing to wait 1000 days to find out, then maybe it is. I doubt she will bring in the event pokémon though... Rabla (i don't have a sig yet)

:Hayley brought in a {{p|Hariyama}} to my ranch yesterday and its description was the same as its Pokédex entry on Diamond and Pearl (both are the same). So I'm guessing this is the same for all Pokémon. As for Pokémon with two different Pokédex entries, I'm not sure which she'll use. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:13, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

== ads ==

what is with the much-hated ads on the wiki?!?!?! i hate them, and what was wrong with the google adbar at the top?? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 11:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

:I was seeing them earlier, but now I don't anymore. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 13:20, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
::It depends on the skin u use.I have always used cologne blue, and as long as I am logged in, I see no ads.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 16:09, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

:::I always use monobook, because I've used it for so long, i know where everything is, and I like it. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 16:20, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I use cologne blue too, but I don't see the ads anymore when I'm logged out. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:25, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Some of the ads I've seen are a little racy. I'm an adult, so it doesn't really bother me, but I'd hate to hear of a kid whose mom flipped out because of some half-naked chicks on an otherwise kid-friendly Pokémon site. [[User:Amp|Amp]] 02:57, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
:Forums to report. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:42, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

I dont know if this is the right place, but im complaining about the ads. cant you do something? my computer keeps slowwing down to try and handle the pop ups. i want to look at Entei's move list, not see 'Mileys new video' or buy 'Phisiology'. please do something. {{unsigned|Chrishaylor}}
:If you sign in, you shouldn't see any ads at all, it was made that way. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 23:12, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::that just forces people to join if they dont want to see the ads. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 11:43, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

== Season 11? ==

Is it true that the 11th season will be Pokémon Diamond and Pearl:Battle Dimension ? I have heard a lot about this and i was wondering if anyone could confirm it... - Rabla

[[Pokémon Diamond & Pearl: Battle Dimension| Pokémon Battle Dimension]]. Need more Proof? --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|Fire]] 08:54, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I've been watching battle dimension for over 2 months now so I dont get what your talking about. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 13:00, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
::Maybe this person is from a different country that hasn't aired any yet, did you think of that??!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 14:22, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Where i am they haven't even finished Diamond and Pearl yet -Rabla

Yes some countries don't stay with the US or Japan dub some may be more behind on the series--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 06:26, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

==12 articles left==
Number 10.000 is coming. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 08:10, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

== YAY! 10,000 ARTICLES ==

wow congrats guys on getting 10000 articles!

I remember when there was only 6,000!

--[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 20:01, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

:I also say, congrats Bulbapedia! 10,000... wow. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 21:47, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

:: Wow. If I may ask, which was the 10,000th page? I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 10:53, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
:::[[Koffing (EX Ruby & Sapphire 54)]] [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 10:56, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

And only 14 pages until it's 11,000! '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 09:46, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== Bulbapedia Pokémon League ==

Ok here’s the thing, I was wondering if anyone would be interested in making a Pokémon League with other Uses here on Bulba, after all most of us like making strong Pokémon teams – why not test them out. It would work over the WiFi using the D/P and PBR friend codes.

If you’re interested put your Sig below the Possible Rules on my talk page & I'll see how many are interested and we can go from there, I was thinking of starting it in about two weeks to give people time to get the Pokémon ready.

[[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]]
:Check the forums, maybe. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:02, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I found it - never thought to look there [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]]
:the league you found is from the forums. {{u|Porygon-Z}} created a league with Bulba members. you can check it out [http://ipgl.proboards84.com/index.cgi here.] -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:16, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
::No I just use Safari browser--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 09:33, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Ads ==

I've noticed that Bulbapedia now has ads on it, and some of the words are green, and when you scroll over them, this little popup box comes up. I'm wondering, why are they there some ads now? Lack of funding? [[User:TheStick|TheStick]]
:Bulbapedia has sold out to the man. Plain and simple.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 14:08, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

::From what I've read on the forums, it's part of a new server. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:00, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
:::I noticed that it only happens when I tried to view the site when I wasn't logged in. [[User:TheStick|TheStick]]

::::I believe that is the intention. Maybe it's a sneaky way to get people to join... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:28, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::Ho hum. The sidebar advertisement is actually well-placed, it's not in the way of anything. And it's banner ads for stuff like Nintendo (and Zwinky), so that's not awful either. I'm not liking the fat advertisement at the bottoms of pages (it should really be a horizontal banner ad, and not within the page content box). But all in all, it's a pretty sweet deal; site seems fast enough already, no ads when logged in, and all that. I'm jealous; GuildWiki is actually losing members over it's advertising system. (Wikia bought GuildWiki out, and they have really crappy ad locations, such as right in the middle of the page.)
:::::I'm looking forward to seeing this server in action. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 10:38, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

::::::What ads? When I'm on here I never see any ads?--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 03:20, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Maybe you missed the fourth comment in this section... - [[User:SpontaneousCombusken|spontaneous'''Combusken''']] 03:22, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::::I'll check....--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 03:31, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::::::I signed out but there was no ads only some words were highlighted green--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']]03:34, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

:-*de-indent* I logged out and turned off my Adblock Plus, and there are definitely advertisements, along with pop-ups (!!). - [[User:SpontaneousCombusken|spontaneous'''Combusken''']] 03:40, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:....................................all these popups...........I hate this website.....~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 03:44, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::I'm just lucky then --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 04:57, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:::[http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/?from=getfirefox Firefox 3]
:::[https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865 AdBlock Plus]
:::...and you're golden. I had to jump through all sorts of hoops, disabling features, just so I could see what the ads looked like. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 09:25, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::No I just use mostly Safari and a little FireFox browser--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 09:33, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:::YOU USE A MAC!!!!![[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 02:46, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

==Fourms==

Are the fourms currently down? I can't get on at all. Every time i go on, it has this wierd error message. ~09MurphyM

== Location Data ==

Where's a complete list of all location data in DP? I'm wondering because I saw a hacked Ho-Oh that I thought said it was from "Space World" but I didn't think PokéSav could create new location data. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 19:11, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
:[http://www.spaceworld.co.jp/english/ As yet unused promotional place.] '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:28, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
:As for that list, we only have one for Gen II and Gen III GBA. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:30, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

== whats wrong with pokemon.com? ==

everytime you try to go to pokemon.com, it says error, but when you type in www.pokemon.com it comes up with this weird page with news from may and june and something about a tournament.

I dont know if that happens a lot or what it means so does anyone else know if a server is just down or what? Thanks --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 13:09, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== The ads ==

Just a question.Do the ads pertain to wat you search[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]] 13:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:What are you talking about? I haven't seen ads on this site in ages. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 13:52, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
::Log out.It seem swat ever you have searched most will apear in the advertisements[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]] 13:54, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:::The ads are only visible to those not logged in. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 13:56, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== Roselia! ==

What does the scouter say about the amount of articles!? --'''''Posted by''''' [[User:Deadlymethane|'''''Deadly''''']][[User talk:Deadlymethane|'''''methane''''']] '''at''' 20:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
:IT'S OVER 9000!?!?!?!?!? [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 02:19, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
::actually its now over 11,000. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 11:42, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

== New Template ==

Can I make a new template thing about editing the user space?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]
:Sure, just do it in one edit! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 02:21, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
::How bout this:
<nowiki>=Please=</nowiki>
Slow down on editing the User Space.Editing the User Space too much will lead to it being locked again.Instead of doing 10 Small edits, why not use preview to check your edits before you preview.
:Thank you

:Made it quickly.Gonna make it under User:Darth Cookie Monster/Warning
::[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]] 02:26, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Put two equal signs on each side instead of one and make it so it automatically signs and it should be cool. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 02:31, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Cant figure that out.Can you add that and it should be good.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]] 02:33, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Thanks for the help.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]] 02:40, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

== requests ==

can we get a suggestion box that comes out of the search menu like wikipedia that way we get rid of the disambugation pages?
and can we upload to the site the Pokémon movies and be downloadable for members only? so if we do it do not spread the news. Please reply back, an admin please!!!!!!!!!!--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 14:37, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

:Well, I'm not an admin, but I ''seriously doubt'' that the movies will ever be available like that on this site. That is called piracy, after all. As far as the suggestion box thing, that'll probably happen when the wiki media deal gets an upgrade. Wikipedia is used as a testing ground for that stuff before other wikis get it. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:06, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
::NO!! Disambiguation pages are nice and convienent. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:36, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:::One, we had a vote on the Pokémon disambigs before. We're not gonna get rid of them. However, there is that sort of "suggestions" thing for the searchbar that I have in Firefox.
:::Also, downloadable movies? Dude, we're lucky that Nintendo isn't as sue-happy as Scientology for us just using official TCG cards. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:00, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Besides, Wikipedia still has its disambiguation pages even though it uses the suggestion table as you're typing into the search window. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:24, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

so lets say you type Pikachu, but you want Ash's Pikachu so the suggestion box will appear:
Pikachu (species)
Pikachu (Ash) redirects to Ash's Pikachu
Pikachu (Ritchie) redirects to Ritchies Pikachu
so this how it works, sorry about the movie thing I forgot about piracy. Also when you login and go to the main page, at the bottom can we also show how many active memebers in bulbapedia are present? --[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 05:56, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
:If you wanna see how many people are on, then go to the forum. This isn't one, it's a wiki. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 06:00, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

::Pokémon with unique names will have their pages titled as such, so [[Sparky]]'s page is located there. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 13:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

we can also get a prenounciation info box at the bottom of the Pokémon information box just like pokencyclopedia.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 14:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
:Er, what? If you mean a name pronunciation, we've been meaning to implement one and will attempt to do so soon... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:33, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

== Evobox? ==

Sorry if it is a stupid question, but where are [[Template:Evobox/1]] and [[Template:Evobox/2]] gone? --[[User:Pokeresp|Pokeresp]] 11:16, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
:Something is wrong with the database. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 12:04, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

== Something's not right here.... ==

The page for [[Scuz]] seems to be not working. What's going on here? I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 12:31, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
:See above. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 15:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

== Categories for players of all game versions ==

Why do we have categories for OSes (like "Windows Users" or "Linux users"), browsers (like "Firefox users"), even for types (like "Water users"), but no special categories for different game versions? IMHO, we should create them and add to <nowiki>{{User Diamond}}, {{User Pearl}}, {{User Emerald}} and other game tags. At least everyone would know, who might want to trade some version-exclusives.</nowiki> --[[User:Pokeresp|Pokeresp]] 11:38, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm, a good question. My guess is that nobody thought to categorize the templates... I think it shouldn't be tough to add them in. Games aren't region-exclusive, correct? Meaning some with a Japanese Blue can trade with someone with an English Blue... so in the case of the (JP) game templates, I say we categorize those just as Blue and Red versions. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 13:35, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
::I think, it would be better to add each template to both categories, e.g. "Players of Diamond" and "Players of Diamond (Japanese version)", since Pokémon from other regions get an experience bonus. But such categorising would not help only trading, but would also be good for statistical purposes :-) etc. --[[User:Pokeresp|Pokeresp]] 17:54, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
:::For things like Japanese Diamond, there'd be no point, since they're the same game. Besides, you're forgetting, Pokémon that have been traded always gain an EXP boost, not just from other regions. I was merely meaning Japanese Blue, but I might need to look at that one in particular again; I think there was something about the Japanese Blue only being in Japanese, and the English Blue being a different game entirely. Otherwise, for trading purposes, both categories could be put in a single box, so people looking for players with Blue don't need to check multiple categories. I'll check it now, and probably start adding tags while I'm at it. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 23:36, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
::::All done. I just need to give the categories their own pages. Blue and Blue (JP) are different games, so no need for multiple tags there. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 00:10, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

How do you make a thing like some of the templates on Wikipedia where you click the word "hide"/"show" and it toggles the links in the template? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 04:21, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
:class="expandable" or class="collapsible" on the table. See...

{| class="expandable"
|-
! This is a table
|-
| And this is the stuff inside! It can be hidden!
|}
:'''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:07, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
::I always loved how enthusiastic you are about coding, TTE.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 07:30, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Is it possible to do it without the label moving when the text appears? Or with the label disappearing, so that the text could be shown and not hidden again? --[[User:Pokeresp|Pokeresp]] 11:33, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
::::If you set the box width in the code (put <code><nowiki><width="350px"></nowiki></code> in the table), then it should lock it in at the same size, open or closed.
{| class="expandable" width="350px" border="1px black"
|-
| This table has a set width (and a border)
|-
| This arbitrarily long section of content will be forced to wrap-around when it reaches the end, because the table's width is locked at a smaller number.
|}
::::There's no way to lock a table open though, not unless you simply take the expandable class out. :P --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 13:55, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::But it's impossible to take "expandable" class out, because embedding html code is disabled on Bulbapedia. However, I at least succeeded in making the table caption "stand still".
:::::{| class="expandable"
|-
!align=left|Something is hidden here
|-
| This table has no border and no fixed width, but its title won't move when "[show]" is clicked. At least in my browser.
* If someone could make the link "[show]/[hide]" not move...
* And if someone could make it disappear with html code embedding disabled...
|}
:::::'''UPDATE.''' I've noticed an interesting effect in Opera 9.51. Before the whole page is loaded, all expandable tables are not collapsed. This means, if a spoiler will be hidden in such table, someone using Opera will have to avoid looking at the screen while the page is loading...
:::::--[[User:Pokeresp|Pokeresp]] 16:29, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::That's normal for all browsers; it loads the page content first, then loads the show/hide script. People will just have to make due as normal, back when we didn't have the show/hide script; don't scroll down when you see a spoiler alert.
::::::And as for the table you just made, if you give it a set width, it'll lock the little show/hide button in one spot. No need to add the border like I did, I only did that to make it easier to see what the table was doing.
::::::What I meant about taking the expandable class out:
::::::{|
|-
!align=left|This table is locked in the open position.
|-
| Because this table has had the expandable class removed, it can't be closed. Ta-da.
|}
::::::--[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 17:29, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

{{#time: h}}:{{#time: m}}

{{CURRENTTIME}}

Why are the minutes different on the two templates? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 01:29, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

:Good question. I suppose it depends on how the CURRENTTIME tool works, or something. Maybe one of them gets the time from one place, while the other gets it from somewhere else? They're exactly five minutes apart, that sounds almost like a refresh rate on something perhaps. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 02:04, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
::Because <code><nowiki>{{#time: m}}</nowiki></code> is the month number with a leading zero. It's {{#time: F}}, so it's {{#time: m}}. The correct minutes would be <code><nowiki>{{#time: i}}</nowiki></code>, as you can see...

::<code><nowiki>{{#time: H}}:{{#time: i}}</nowiki></code> makes {{#time: H}}:{{#time: i}}
::<code><nowiki>{{CURRENTTIME}}</nowiki></code> makes {{CURRENTTIME}}

::It's the same. Now watch this random calculated number change like nobody's business! {{#expr: ({{#time: U}} mod {{#time: s}}) + ({{#time: z}} mod {{#time: h}})}} (hint: it's ({{#time: U}}%{{#time: s}}) + ({{#time: z}}%{{#time: G}})). '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:48, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Aha! So ''that's'' how Arceus is set to randomly switch modes whenever you visit the page. I like that. I'll have to find some use for that now... --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 13:00, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

:::{{#time: h}}:{{#time: i}}
:::{{CURRENTTIME}}
:::What are <nowiki>{{#time: U}}</nowiki>, <nowiki>{{#time: z}}</nowiki>, and <nowiki>{{#time: G}}</nowiki> and how do you round a decimal to an integer? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 22:40, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
::::<code><nowiki>{{#time: U}}</nowiki></code> is seconds since January 1, 1970 at 12:00 AM. <code><nowiki>{{#time: z}}</nowiki></code> is how many days have passed since January 1 of this year. <code><nowiki>{{#time: G}}</nowiki></code> is the hour in 24-hour format without a padding 0 (<code><nowiki>{{#time: H}}</nowiki></code> has the padding zero, while the lowercase of each is the 12-hour version). [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:ParserFunctions See this page] for all of them... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:05, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::::By the way. {{#ifexpr: (({{#time: m}} + {{#time: d}} + {{#time: y}}) div 3) = {{#time: m}}|Happy {{#time: m"/"d"/"y}}!|{{#expr: ({{#time: m}} + {{#time: d}} + {{#time: y}}) div 3}}}}

==Idea==
Okay, seeing as I'm not a part of any other part of bulbapedia, I can't post it anywhere else. The idea is a Pokémon fan wiki. Basically, it's a wiki for fanfic, ideas, interactive games, text adventures and anything else. I'ma guess you'd be able to make pages on your own fake pokémon. If you juys already have this, I apologize because I would not know. I got the idea from http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page . [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]]

:It sounds like a fun idea. I don't think it's a realistic option for Bulbapedia, or our servers; there's already a lot on the wiki, and we've already got limits on userspace stuff, because fanfics and games have clogged the servers before.
:But a wiki dedicated to the topic might be fun. It's actually not all that hard to start your own wiki, if you can find a webhost... I've got one of my own running on a mildly reliable free webhost. So don't forget that starting one yourself is a fine option. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 19:19, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
::I'm all for it. I don't have the money, time, know-how or "care" factor to do it myself, but a fan wiki would attract all the fancrufters away from here to a place where they can post their stuff without fear of reprimand or deletion. Transformers and Super Mario do it, I know, so I think it's a good idea. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 02:46, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
:::"Welcome to Pokémon Fancruft Wiki! Have fun editing here!"
:::...while I doubt that name would go over well, the basic idea would be popular. The question would be, is a Wiki really the best place for such things, or perhaps a simpler, "normal" submission-type website? Lots of people like fanfics, but how many like posting fanfics in a wiki?
:::Not counting the people here who do just that; most of them post fanfics here because they're already members, and at least a little familiar with wiki-code. Your average Pokémon fanboy/fangirl might not be so wiki-literate. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 05:02, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Everyone at the HRFWiki, WIki user Wiki and Kirby fanstuff wiki. BTW: it's fan'''STUFF''' not fancruft. [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]]
:::::I was quoting Martonimos on the "Fancruft", and he was quoting Zhen Lin on it. Sort of an inside joke I suppose, we both know what it's supposed to be called. :P --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 13:21, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Actually, I've only ever heard the term "fancruft." I've never heard it referred to as "fanstuff," so I guess I hang around some really bitter people.
::::::I think a wiki would work really well. It's not just fanfics that people write; they make pages for their characters, essays, teams, predictions, all sorts of stuff that are in article format but not notable (or, more often, canonical) enough to be articles. If, for example, I had been forced to put my [[User:Martonimos/GSDS|GSDS predictions]] page on another site, one that didn't use wiki-coding, it would have required an extensive rewrite, not just for the code, but the format of the article as a whole. And when you look at the amount of time people spend editing their userpages, even now after the ban, I'd think that a wiki of this sort would be extremely popular. We'd just have to be sure to deflect a few people from Bulbapedia to the Fancruftpedia at first; it'd catch on after a while. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 08:17, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
''{Kills colons}'' Presicley my Martini! Anyway, I'd probably be more active at the Bulbafan(?) [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]]

== Japanese ==

All of the Japanese characters on all of the pages just show up as question marks. How can I fix this? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 15:14, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

:I don't see them as question marks. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:17, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::I know that it's just a problem with my computer, but how do I fix it? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 16:41, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::Download Japanese onto your computer or GET A NEW ONE! '''[[User:LugiaFan|''Lugia'']][[User talk:LugiaFan|''Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"]]''' 16:43, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Where's a page to download Japanese? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 19:07, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::::For instructions, see [[wp:Help:Multilingual support (East Asian)|this page]].
::::You know, this is the second or third time I've directed a user to that page, not counting the time I used it myself to get half the sigs on this site to not appear as question marks. I think we should create a page of our own to include that information (the <code>Help:</code> namespace could use some content, anyway). Of course, I'm not sure about the legality of just copying their page, as wikis tend to involve all sorts of legal issues that go straight over my head. Admins, what are your thoughts? --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 00:26, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::Virtually every language shows up in the "Add..." diaglog ''except'' Chinese, Japanese, and Korean (the three languages I want to enable). --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 00:22, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::What system are you using? I've done this a few times on XP computers, and it works fine. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 00:26, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

I found the checkbox but it says I have to insert the XP disk to copy the files or install the files from another location. Since my computer came with XP pre-installed, where can I download the files? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 01:55, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

:I don't think you can install without the disk, unfortunately. My laptop is exactly the same. However, I downloaded Firefox 3, and I think that has Asian-character support built-in, because soon after getting it, Kanji and Katakana and Hiragana all started working (online at least, I dunno if it applies to offline too). Perhaps trying that would be a good idea. (and of course, I've mentioned it many times before, Firefox > just about every other browser.) --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 02:46, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Its free for download on the Microsoft official sites. Just search for "Download Japanese alphabet", or something similar.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 08:36, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive 6

2008-08-08T08:05:08Z

Strong Intelligent: /* Idea */

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== Congrats Bulbapedia ==

http://www.quantcast.com/bulbapedia.com

Congrats on all of the hits. I'm only confused on the gender demographic.[[User:GJPal|GJ]] 01:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

:You do realize that's an Advertisement right? --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 01:19, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

::I don't know whether Quantcast screwed up, or whether they're actually referring to a separate site. See, http://www.bulbapedia.com isn't affiliated with Bulbagarden or this wiki, to my knowledge. We're a different web address. So, either Quantcast's research does reflect our site and they just assumed our suffix was .com, or those stats actually have nothing to do with this wiki. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Actually, bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net is listed in the "similar audience" column to the right. I guess people go to bulbapedia.com when they hear about the site but not the URL. Anyway, [http://www.quantcast.com/bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net we're doing even better] than bulbapedia.com. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 01:54, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::::wow, i didnt know that many of you guys were asain... -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:09, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::I wonder, can Quantcast tell the difference between Asians and wannabe-Asians? A good number of users here use Japanese or Japanese-inspired names... my name's Japanese-inspired, and I'm born in NYC. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 03:16, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::I'm vietnamese, that's asian, but I was born in LA, the state~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]][[Special:Random|102]] 03:20, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Thanks for the correct info. There is still more girls though. I thought girls didn't exist on the Internet. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:GJPal|GJPal]] ([[User talk:GJPal|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GJPal|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
::::::::they dont. its just lots of boys using their mothers computer. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Or as World of Warcraft has shown us, its just guys pretending they are girls....[[User:Oak-leaf Knight|[[User:Oak-leaf Knight]]]] 04:42, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Does that mean Tina? PachirisuLover12? Pie? Zhen Lin? no, he is a boy~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]][[Special:Random|102]] 04:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::they could be. we dont know. thats the magic of the internet. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
You said it, not me...[[User:Oak-leaf Knight|[[User:Oak-leaf Knight]]]] 04:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:Begs the question on why guys would want to act as girls.
:...On second thougts, don't answer that. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 05:27, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::Errrr, I don't know. They want to be gay? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:30 4 Jun 2008'''''
:::I'm a G.i.r.l. too! (Guy In Real Life) --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 10:21, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
----
Well done, Bulbapedia. You have crawled your way up into the ranks where when people search for Pikachu, they get our page on Pikachu. Well done indeed...'''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:24 17 Jun 2008'''''
:Right behind Wikipedia's article on Pikachu, of course. :D --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 11:35, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::We're ahead for every other Pokaman. Proves how hard our contributors have been working. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''12:54 17 Jun 2008'''''

== Who Misspelled Categorized and Categorizing? ==
Fix the spelling. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:AaronV28|AaronV28]] ([[User talk:AaronV28|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/AaronV28|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:Typical human response. It's American English, not British. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''07:24 2 Jun 2008'''''
::American English would have the "z" in catergorizing. Since we use American English, it should be changed. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 12:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::It has been stated not to change from one to the other for the sheer sake of it. Either can be used, but American English is preferred. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 12:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Wait, ''where'' is it misspelled anyway? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::I changed it. It should be the last one in the history. That's why Glinn yelled abut changing it. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:59, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yelling GENERALLY USES CAPS LOCK LIKE THIS to emphasise its point. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 08:02, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I used yelled as a generic term. Would you rather I have said {{tt|talked|or wrote?}} matter-of-factly? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 14:51, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

== Collapsible Navboxes ==

can bulbapedia do collapsible boxes, and if so, how? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|Talk}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|Contribs}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|Mudkipz}}''' 21:14, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:We can, yes, we just haven't yet because we're against pretty much just jacking everyone's code. We likely will soon enough. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:51, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::But wikipedia and bulbapedia both run on mediawiki, so everything that works on one will work on the other, so why the big 'stealing other wikis code is not nice' thing? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|Talk}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|Contribs}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|Mudkipz}}''' 23:02, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Depending on the .js or .css coding we use, there's a few that are out there specifically to be used by anyone, so they're safe to take. I know of two types of collapsible boxes, I think... if I can just find the right one, I can check the source on it, it's easy enough to get up and running. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 09:32, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
::::is it done yet? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 11:37, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::I don't think I like them... They make things inconvienent and they subtract from the pages overall view. They make articles look lesss...complete. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 11:39, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::They've been added now. Inconvenient is only a matter of perspective; yes, you need to click to read everything, but at the same time, on pages that need collapsible boxes, it's easier to find what you're looking for when the big stuff's hidden initially. Anyway, see [[User talk:Poke/CollapsibleTables.js]] for the coding and instructions. You can format and color the tables just like any other table, so no worries about messing up themes or a page's "overall view". --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 00:15, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

== Anime pics ==

How do you get pictures of the anime episodes? If I try to play one on my computer and press "Print Scrn", the window where the video was is black. Is there any way around this? --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 23:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:We just get them fro Filb.de. But if you have Windows Movie Maker or some other type of movie maker, you can take screenshots from there. I'm sure websites like Filb.de use some special kind of program to get screenshots. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:07, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::DVD Shrink saved the DVD as a .ifo file, and Windows Movie Maker won't let me open it. What file type do I need to convert it to and how do I convert it to the correct type? --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 23:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

::: [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=RNWE%2CRNWE%3A2005-03%2CRNWE%3Aen&q=.ifo+converter] [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 03:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I have the "download codecs automatically" box checked, and I'm on an administrator account, but I get the error message:

<pre width="100%">The file F:\My Documents\My Videos\Pokémon The Rise of Darkrai.avi cannot be imported because the codec required to play the file is not installed on your computer. If you have already tried to download and install the codec, close and restart Windows Movie Maker, and then try to import the file again.</pre>

I've tried closing and restarting Windows Movie Maker several times but it still gives me the error. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 20:47, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

:If you could pause it without messing up the image, maybe you could just photo it. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
::A lot of video players have a feature that allows you to take screenshots. Media Player Classic is a good one. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:05, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

== James' not James's!!!!!! ==

EVERY SINGLE POSSESIVE FORM FOR JAMES ON THIS SITE IS WRONG! The possesive form of James is James', NOT James's[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 13:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:Then fix it when you see it's wrong. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 13:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:: Actually, both ''James's'' and ''James''' are [http://www.bartleby.com/141/strunk.html#1 accepted] [http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/possessives.htm possessive] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostrophe#Possessive_apostrophe forms]. (Note that that the 's is insisted upon in the ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MLA_style_manual The MLA Style Manual]'', as well as the ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elements_of_Style Elements of Style]'' which I believe is the writing standard we follow at Bulbapedia) The key is uniformity in the writing, thus, why ''James's'' is used on the Bulbapedia. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 13:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Now that they are moved, doesn't that mean we have double redirects everywhere?!? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]''
::::But proper english has '''s''' not '''s's'''. See here http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handouts/grammar/g_apost.html [[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 14:01, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::Okay, I'll get right on that. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 14:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::: The links I provided clearly state that ''both'' are in fact "proper English" and anyone that has written professionally adheres to the ''Elements of Style'', and ''The MLA Style Manual''. I would ask about this on the forums before going wild with editing and redirecting everything.
:::::::I really don't think that this will work because both the OP and the TP Templates/shortlinks only work and will result in James's Pokémon. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 14:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::The very page you cite does not support your claim. I quote, "add 's to the singular form of the word (even if it ends in -s)". James is, of course, singular. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 15:18, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::I asked my English teacher today, and it confirmed my thoughts that it's always just an apostrophe at the end of a name if the name ends with s. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 17:01, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Let's not forget it's the same English teachers who tell us that prepositions are not appropriate words to end sentences with. They are not always correct. '''James's''' is correct and the standard on Bulbapedia, end of discussion. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 02:05, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
And apparently there are people who will never learn. Due to actions by a user called, fittingly enough, {{u|Arbok and Weezing}}, every article starting with "James's" can no longer be moved by someone who doesn't have sysop powers. This blatant disregard for style left me with no choice. This whole issue has been discussed over and over again, and still people insist that the "James's" way is 100% incorrect. Please contact a sysop if a legitimate title change is necessary (such as [[James's Mime Jr.]] evolving, NOT changing [[James's Chimecho]] to "James' Chimecho"). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 06:05, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Isn't it funny that people are fighting over whether an "s" goes on the end of James or not? People should learn that it's a certain way on Bulbapedia and that they should abide by it.--[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:16, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:It's not so much that they argue...it's just...are ''tantrums'' necessary? And English is probably the worst of them all in terms of consistency. There's ten million ways to do everything. (So yeah...no screaming about it please.)--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 08:00, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
::This is probably where it is confusing people. There is a rule for names ending in "s" "vowel" "s". They probably think James falls under it when it doesn't. The only two names that do are Jesus and Moses. So those are the only two names and they actually should be Jesus' and Moses'. Those are the ''only two!'' ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 13:20, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Correction, I asked the Advanced Placement English teacher from my school which it should be (who has a doctorate in english!) and she said that it should always be James's and the only ones that do apply (Jesus and Moses) can actually go either way. So from now on, it should be James's, the ''correct'' way! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 13:36, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

== Wait a sec...... ==

How does this user [[User:SharkJamez]] have stuff on the user account if he joined after the 24th of march.
*20:08, June 6, 2008 SharkJamez (Talk | contribs) New user ‎
(When he joined)
[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 13:59, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

:That's due to the content having originally been posted on the talk page. Even prior to the userspace ban, there were instances where people had posted content more appropriate for the User namespace in the User talk namespace, and since this content didn't appear to be a blatant attempt to get around the userspace ban, the content was moved. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:14, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

== Look what I found ==

Look at this video I found on Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsopjAc2xok

--'''''Posted by''''' [[User:Deadlymethane|'''''Deadly''''']][[User talk:Deadlymethane|'''''methane''''']] '''at''' 20:16, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:Interesting. Too bad it doesn't really have a use yet. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Unown Q]] 03:40, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::It worked for me. I'm pressed for time, though, and not keen to experiment a lot. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:43, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:::What do you mean it has no use? If no AR was used used in that video, then you could get the events with tweaking. --'''''Posted by''''' [[User:Deadlymethane|'''''Deadly''''']][[User talk:Deadlymethane|'''''methane''''']] '''at''' 23:08, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I still cant figure out how to tweak.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 00:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::Go crazy on the D-pad. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:05, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

== My talk page ==

Is gone. Completely gone. As In I can not find any history, or anything...[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 18:32, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:Boo-hoo. Don't use it for useless blog crap this time. That's not what it's for. [[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]] 18:36, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::I did not use it for useless Blog $%^#. And even if the admins think I did, a warning would have been nice.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 18:38, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Your talk page had nonsense on it. We have been told to delete anything not having to do with Bulbapedia. Don't use your talk page for nonsense next time. You're not the only one this is going to happen to. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 18:39, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::::If I had been told that it would be wiped, I would have taken the axe to all the junk..... once again, would have been nice to have been forewarned[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 18:41, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::::You had ''fanfiction'' on it. What exactly do you think the forums are for if you're cluttering the wiki up with tripe like that? [[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]] 20:40, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::::This has gone way beyond the point of "warning" people. Honestly though, you have been warned. The discussion on the Bulbapedia forum has been going on for long enough that everyone should have seen what was going to happen, and what kinds of things are unacceptable. This junk in the user space that has nothing to do with Bulbapedia has been killing the server, and we've put up with it long enough. If you want to store fanfiction on Bulbagarden, that's what library.bulbagarden.net is for. If you want to have long discussions about any topic, that's what BMGf is for. --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 00:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Users with talk-page content that isn't about Bulbapedia should be warned ahead of time to give them time to back up the pages (this obviously applies only to things like fanfiction that the user might actually want to keep). --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 01:03, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:They can retrieve the information from the history, so it really makes no difference if they're warned or not. --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 01:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, when it is delted, you cant pull back from the history. And I already kiled the fan fic.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 01:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:::When removing stuff from talk pages, it's a much better idea to blank the page, not delete it. Deletion does absolutely nothing that blanking wouldn't do in this situation; the pages are still retained in the server database. At the very least, give users the ability to see ''what'' got deleted. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 01:53, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== Bots ==

How do you create bots? I want to make one myself rather than having someone else make one for me. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 16:12, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:If it isn't something that would be possible for me to do, I'd like a "shortcut" bot, named ShinyBot, that would change the following shortcuts into the correct code (to make editing easier by causing users to have to type less):

/d\→δ

/e\→é

/m\→♂

/f\→♀

//''Pokédex number''\\→<nowiki>[[Image:</nowiki>''Pokédex number''<nowiki>.png]]</nowiki>

/>''page name''<\→<nowiki>#redirect[[</nowiki>''page name''<nowiki>]]</nowiki>

/[''image name''][''image height''][''image width''][''title''][''page name'']\→<nowiki>{{Imagelink|</nowiki>''image name''<nowiki>|</nowiki>''image height''<nowiki>|</nowiki>''image width''<nowiki>|</nowiki>''title''<nowiki>|</nowiki>''page name''<nowiki>}}</nowiki>

More shortcuts possibly coming...

--[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 16:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

:Why not simply use the character palette? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 19:21, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

::As opposed to creating a bot who's job would be to make every edit into two edits. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 19:24, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

== Images ==

The images [[Image:Escape Formula Example 2.png]] and [[Image:Escape Formula Example 3.png]] don't show up, despite the fact that I've uploaded them ([[a:Image:Escape Formula Example 2.png]] and [[a:Image:Escape Formula Example 3.png]]). --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 21:22, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

:It's a bug. Images uploaded on the Archives may not show up on the Bulbapedia side at first. The situation usually sorts itself out over time, so I'd recommend leaving them as is--it'll probably fix itself eventually. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:25, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

== Userspace ==

No, this isn't another whine or complaint, it's an idea. Instead of having the admins try to find some complex programming to make a edit limit, why not try to ask Bulbagarden to make a new area to put the userspace in? Have the userspace from the forums, the archives, the wiki, everything, on a new server? Just thought I'd throw the idea out there and have someone at least tell me why it won't work. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 17:42, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:Servers aren't free. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 17:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, but put some of the donations from all the divisions toward it, and tell people that it would bring back the userspace... [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 17:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

There's honestly no reason to actually have a userspace, i liked it better when i couldn't see mine. It's pointless unless you really want people to know every detail about you, IMO.[[User:Boywonder01|'''Boy''']][[User talk:Boywonder01|'''wonder''']][[Special:Contributions/Boywonder01|'''01''']] 17:52, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Why not just redirect all userspace pages to talk pages and be done with it? -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Unown Q]] 22:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:at this point, it looks like the userspace will be dissallowed and user pages will have little information on them. seriously, you join to edit and contribute, not to show off [[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|your ideas]]. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Something to think about: Over on MarioWiki, one of our admins started a separate wiki (through wikia) called Userpedia, which is for all the community and fan crap. That might be a good solution to Bulbapedia's problems. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Unown Q]] 22:51, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:I had heard about that, that's sort of what gave me the idea. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 00:43, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
::It works out rather well, with the occasional overlap. I recently proposed to my fellow admins about doing what Bulbapedia did and just block all userspace edits. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Unown Q]] 01:00, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:I kinda like this ban, it weeds out the trolls and Bulbapedia moves forward.Of course, if it's permanent, you know the trolls will call shenanigans on the admins and the entire wiki.[[User:Boywonder01|'''Boy''']][[User talk:Boywonder01|'''wonder''']][[Special:Contributions/Boywonder01|'''01''']] 01:12, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:the idea may be an easy way out, but Zhen doesnt have the money to support ''another'' server. especially one for users to play around on. especially considering he already has [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/index.php something like that]. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:31, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:: [http://www.wikia.com/ Free solutions do exist.] -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Unown Q]] 03:30, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Wikia's only free money-wise. You pay for it in plenty of other ways. Trust me. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 04:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

::::Can someone tell me what servers are? I know thats what host the site, but what are they? [[User:Patriotfan09|'''Patriot''']][[User talk:Patriotfan09|'''fan''']][[User_talk:Patriotfan09/Phantom_Gym|'''09''']] 04:23, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::A Server is just a computer that has the entire website saved on it, basically. A much bigger computer then normal, of course... --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 06:28, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Why not delete the user pages and user talk pages of users who dont use bulba anymore?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 18:13, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::But then you have the problem of, what designates a user who doesn't use bulbapedia anymore? You can't ask them if they still use it, you can't be sure they'll give you an answer. Lots of users "lurk" (use the site, but don't necessarily edit all the time). Maybe a year's worth of inactivity, but that's not exactly easy to enforce.
:::::::I think userspace is still an important thing to have; it's always good to know who's who. A name only tells you so much. But there's a lot of stuff that doesn't need to be on a userpage. I want to know the editor, not know every little detail about the person and their family. K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple, Stupid) is a good rule for userspace.
:::::::Re-enabling userspace with restrictions, either on size, or scope, or number of edits, or all of the above... seems like a good idea. The problem is, how to do this simply. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 18:28, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the info. [[User:Patriotfan09|'''Patriot''']][[User talk:Patriotfan09|'''fan''']][[User_talk:Patriotfan09/Phantom_Gym|'''09''']] 22:56, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

== Wouldnt this be cool? ==

wouldnt it be cool that the day we get our 10,000th article we could have like an online party or something. or just like a celebration if we could find a website that could do that or something. but it would be fun wouldnt it!

its just an idea...

--[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 22:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

==Contents==
Hey, what happened to the contents column on the pages???????? --[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 03:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:Which pages are you talking about in particular? Any examples?
:I believe if they're not showing up at all, there's an option in your preferences to turn them off, so check that you didn't turn that on by mistake... --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 13:06, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

::Ok And I mean on every page i go on --[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]]
:::Still works for me, on all the pages that should have Contents (ToC is, by default, only visible if there's about three or more sections on the page). Check your preferences, is my bet. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 16:20, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

== My Pokémon Ranch ==

This is a new game avaliable for download on Wii (and since it is WiiWare, you have to have WiFi). As I was playing earlier, I realized that when Haley brings in Pokémon to the ranch, a description of the species appears. I'm not sure if it's identical to any descriptions so far, but I think it might be useful if it's put under "Pokédex Description" on the appropriate pages, though it's not really a Pokédex. [[User:Crüsäder|Crüsäder]] 14:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

:Could be worth a shot since Gen I & II Pokémon have their "Stadium" descriptions. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:19, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

::The only problem is, it doesn't show descriptions for all Pokémon, only the ones she brings in (as far as I've found, anyway). [[User:Crüsäder|Crüsäder]] 18:24, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Oh... Then maybe it's not that notable. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:37, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
::::If we can get a full set, it will probably be worth adding. How many Pokémon species can she bring in? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::She usually brings in one a day. [[User:Crüsäder|Crüsäder]] 16:09, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Is there potential for her to bring in one of every kind of Pokémon? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:42, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

You can have 1000 Pokémon in there so if anyone is willing to wait 1000 days to find out, then maybe it is. I doubt she will bring in the event pokémon though... Rabla (i don't have a sig yet)

:Hayley brought in a {{p|Hariyama}} to my ranch yesterday and its description was the same as its Pokédex entry on Diamond and Pearl (both are the same). So I'm guessing this is the same for all Pokémon. As for Pokémon with two different Pokédex entries, I'm not sure which she'll use. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:13, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

== ads ==

what is with the much-hated ads on the wiki?!?!?! i hate them, and what was wrong with the google adbar at the top?? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 11:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

:I was seeing them earlier, but now I don't anymore. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 13:20, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
::It depends on the skin u use.I have always used cologne blue, and as long as I am logged in, I see no ads.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 16:09, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

:::I always use monobook, because I've used it for so long, i know where everything is, and I like it. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 16:20, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I use cologne blue too, but I don't see the ads anymore when I'm logged out. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:25, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Some of the ads I've seen are a little racy. I'm an adult, so it doesn't really bother me, but I'd hate to hear of a kid whose mom flipped out because of some half-naked chicks on an otherwise kid-friendly Pokémon site. [[User:Amp|Amp]] 02:57, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
:Forums to report. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:42, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

I dont know if this is the right place, but im complaining about the ads. cant you do something? my computer keeps slowwing down to try and handle the pop ups. i want to look at Entei's move list, not see 'Mileys new video' or buy 'Phisiology'. please do something. {{unsigned|Chrishaylor}}
:If you sign in, you shouldn't see any ads at all, it was made that way. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 23:12, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::that just forces people to join if they dont want to see the ads. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 11:43, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

== Season 11? ==

Is it true that the 11th season will be Pokémon Diamond and Pearl:Battle Dimension ? I have heard a lot about this and i was wondering if anyone could confirm it... - Rabla

[[Pokémon Diamond & Pearl: Battle Dimension| Pokémon Battle Dimension]]. Need more Proof? --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|Fire]] 08:54, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I've been watching battle dimension for over 2 months now so I dont get what your talking about. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 13:00, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
::Maybe this person is from a different country that hasn't aired any yet, did you think of that??!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 14:22, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Where i am they haven't even finished Diamond and Pearl yet -Rabla

Yes some countries don't stay with the US or Japan dub some may be more behind on the series--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 06:26, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

==12 articles left==
Number 10.000 is coming. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 08:10, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

== YAY! 10,000 ARTICLES ==

wow congrats guys on getting 10000 articles!

I remember when there was only 6,000!

--[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 20:01, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

:I also say, congrats Bulbapedia! 10,000... wow. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 21:47, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

:: Wow. If I may ask, which was the 10,000th page? I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 10:53, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
:::[[Koffing (EX Ruby & Sapphire 54)]] [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 10:56, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

And only 14 pages until it's 11,000! '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 09:46, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== Bulbapedia Pokémon League ==

Ok here’s the thing, I was wondering if anyone would be interested in making a Pokémon League with other Uses here on Bulba, after all most of us like making strong Pokémon teams – why not test them out. It would work over the WiFi using the D/P and PBR friend codes.

If you’re interested put your Sig below the Possible Rules on my talk page & I'll see how many are interested and we can go from there, I was thinking of starting it in about two weeks to give people time to get the Pokémon ready.

[[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]]
:Check the forums, maybe. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:02, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I found it - never thought to look there [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]]
:the league you found is from the forums. {{u|Porygon-Z}} created a league with Bulba members. you can check it out [http://ipgl.proboards84.com/index.cgi here.] -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:16, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
::No I just use Safari browser--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 09:33, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Ads ==

I've noticed that Bulbapedia now has ads on it, and some of the words are green, and when you scroll over them, this little popup box comes up. I'm wondering, why are they there some ads now? Lack of funding? [[User:TheStick|TheStick]]
:Bulbapedia has sold out to the man. Plain and simple.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 14:08, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

::From what I've read on the forums, it's part of a new server. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:00, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
:::I noticed that it only happens when I tried to view the site when I wasn't logged in. [[User:TheStick|TheStick]]

::::I believe that is the intention. Maybe it's a sneaky way to get people to join... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:28, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::Ho hum. The sidebar advertisement is actually well-placed, it's not in the way of anything. And it's banner ads for stuff like Nintendo (and Zwinky), so that's not awful either. I'm not liking the fat advertisement at the bottoms of pages (it should really be a horizontal banner ad, and not within the page content box). But all in all, it's a pretty sweet deal; site seems fast enough already, no ads when logged in, and all that. I'm jealous; GuildWiki is actually losing members over it's advertising system. (Wikia bought GuildWiki out, and they have really crappy ad locations, such as right in the middle of the page.)
:::::I'm looking forward to seeing this server in action. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 10:38, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

::::::What ads? When I'm on here I never see any ads?--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 03:20, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Maybe you missed the fourth comment in this section... - [[User:SpontaneousCombusken|spontaneous'''Combusken''']] 03:22, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::::I'll check....--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 03:31, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::::::I signed out but there was no ads only some words were highlighted green--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']]03:34, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

:-*de-indent* I logged out and turned off my Adblock Plus, and there are definitely advertisements, along with pop-ups (!!). - [[User:SpontaneousCombusken|spontaneous'''Combusken''']] 03:40, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:....................................all these popups...........I hate this website.....~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 03:44, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::I'm just lucky then --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 04:57, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:::[http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/?from=getfirefox Firefox 3]
:::[https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865 AdBlock Plus]
:::...and you're golden. I had to jump through all sorts of hoops, disabling features, just so I could see what the ads looked like. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 09:25, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::No I just use mostly Safari and a little FireFox browser--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 09:33, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:::YOU USE A MAC!!!!![[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 02:46, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

==Fourms==

Are the fourms currently down? I can't get on at all. Every time i go on, it has this wierd error message. ~09MurphyM

== Location Data ==

Where's a complete list of all location data in DP? I'm wondering because I saw a hacked Ho-Oh that I thought said it was from "Space World" but I didn't think PokéSav could create new location data. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 19:11, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
:[http://www.spaceworld.co.jp/english/ As yet unused promotional place.] '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:28, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
:As for that list, we only have one for Gen II and Gen III GBA. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:30, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

== whats wrong with pokemon.com? ==

everytime you try to go to pokemon.com, it says error, but when you type in www.pokemon.com it comes up with this weird page with news from may and june and something about a tournament.

I dont know if that happens a lot or what it means so does anyone else know if a server is just down or what? Thanks --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 13:09, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== The ads ==

Just a question.Do the ads pertain to wat you search[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]] 13:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:What are you talking about? I haven't seen ads on this site in ages. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 13:52, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
::Log out.It seem swat ever you have searched most will apear in the advertisements[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]] 13:54, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:::The ads are only visible to those not logged in. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 13:56, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== Roselia! ==

What does the scouter say about the amount of articles!? --'''''Posted by''''' [[User:Deadlymethane|'''''Deadly''''']][[User talk:Deadlymethane|'''''methane''''']] '''at''' 20:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
:IT'S OVER 9000!?!?!?!?!? [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 02:19, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
::actually its now over 11,000. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 11:42, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

== New Template ==

Can I make a new template thing about editing the user space?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]
:Sure, just do it in one edit! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 02:21, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
::How bout this:
<nowiki>=Please=</nowiki>
Slow down on editing the User Space.Editing the User Space too much will lead to it being locked again.Instead of doing 10 Small edits, why not use preview to check your edits before you preview.
:Thank you

:Made it quickly.Gonna make it under User:Darth Cookie Monster/Warning
::[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]] 02:26, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Put two equal signs on each side instead of one and make it so it automatically signs and it should be cool. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 02:31, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Cant figure that out.Can you add that and it should be good.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]] 02:33, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Thanks for the help.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]] 02:40, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

== requests ==

can we get a suggestion box that comes out of the search menu like wikipedia that way we get rid of the disambugation pages?
and can we upload to the site the Pokémon movies and be downloadable for members only? so if we do it do not spread the news. Please reply back, an admin please!!!!!!!!!!--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 14:37, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

:Well, I'm not an admin, but I ''seriously doubt'' that the movies will ever be available like that on this site. That is called piracy, after all. As far as the suggestion box thing, that'll probably happen when the wiki media deal gets an upgrade. Wikipedia is used as a testing ground for that stuff before other wikis get it. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:06, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
::NO!! Disambiguation pages are nice and convienent. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:36, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:::One, we had a vote on the Pokémon disambigs before. We're not gonna get rid of them. However, there is that sort of "suggestions" thing for the searchbar that I have in Firefox.
:::Also, downloadable movies? Dude, we're lucky that Nintendo isn't as sue-happy as Scientology for us just using official TCG cards. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:00, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Besides, Wikipedia still has its disambiguation pages even though it uses the suggestion table as you're typing into the search window. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:24, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

so lets say you type Pikachu, but you want Ash's Pikachu so the suggestion box will appear:
Pikachu (species)
Pikachu (Ash) redirects to Ash's Pikachu
Pikachu (Ritchie) redirects to Ritchies Pikachu
so this how it works, sorry about the movie thing I forgot about piracy. Also when you login and go to the main page, at the bottom can we also show how many active memebers in bulbapedia are present? --[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 05:56, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
:If you wanna see how many people are on, then go to the forum. This isn't one, it's a wiki. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 06:00, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

::Pokémon with unique names will have their pages titled as such, so [[Sparky]]'s page is located there. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 13:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

we can also get a prenounciation info box at the bottom of the Pokémon information box just like pokencyclopedia.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 14:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
:Er, what? If you mean a name pronunciation, we've been meaning to implement one and will attempt to do so soon... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:33, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

== Evobox? ==

Sorry if it is a stupid question, but where are [[Template:Evobox/1]] and [[Template:Evobox/2]] gone? --[[User:Pokeresp|Pokeresp]] 11:16, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
:Something is wrong with the database. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 12:04, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

== Something's not right here.... ==

The page for [[Scuz]] seems to be not working. What's going on here? I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 12:31, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
:See above. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 15:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

== Categories for players of all game versions ==

Why do we have categories for OSes (like "Windows Users" or "Linux users"), browsers (like "Firefox users"), even for types (like "Water users"), but no special categories for different game versions? IMHO, we should create them and add to <nowiki>{{User Diamond}}, {{User Pearl}}, {{User Emerald}} and other game tags. At least everyone would know, who might want to trade some version-exclusives.</nowiki> --[[User:Pokeresp|Pokeresp]] 11:38, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm, a good question. My guess is that nobody thought to categorize the templates... I think it shouldn't be tough to add them in. Games aren't region-exclusive, correct? Meaning some with a Japanese Blue can trade with someone with an English Blue... so in the case of the (JP) game templates, I say we categorize those just as Blue and Red versions. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 13:35, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
::I think, it would be better to add each template to both categories, e.g. "Players of Diamond" and "Players of Diamond (Japanese version)", since Pokémon from other regions get an experience bonus. But such categorising would not help only trading, but would also be good for statistical purposes :-) etc. --[[User:Pokeresp|Pokeresp]] 17:54, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
:::For things like Japanese Diamond, there'd be no point, since they're the same game. Besides, you're forgetting, Pokémon that have been traded always gain an EXP boost, not just from other regions. I was merely meaning Japanese Blue, but I might need to look at that one in particular again; I think there was something about the Japanese Blue only being in Japanese, and the English Blue being a different game entirely. Otherwise, for trading purposes, both categories could be put in a single box, so people looking for players with Blue don't need to check multiple categories. I'll check it now, and probably start adding tags while I'm at it. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 23:36, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
::::All done. I just need to give the categories their own pages. Blue and Blue (JP) are different games, so no need for multiple tags there. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 00:10, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

How do you make a thing like some of the templates on Wikipedia where you click the word "hide"/"show" and it toggles the links in the template? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 04:21, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
:class="expandable" or class="collapsible" on the table. See...

{| class="expandable"
|-
! This is a table
|-
| And this is the stuff inside! It can be hidden!
|}
:'''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:07, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
::I always loved how enthusiastic you are about coding, TTE.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 07:30, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Is it possible to do it without the label moving when the text appears? Or with the label disappearing, so that the text could be shown and not hidden again? --[[User:Pokeresp|Pokeresp]] 11:33, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
::::If you set the box width in the code (put <code><nowiki><width="350px"></nowiki></code> in the table), then it should lock it in at the same size, open or closed.
{| class="expandable" width="350px" border="1px black"
|-
| This table has a set width (and a border)
|-
| This arbitrarily long section of content will be forced to wrap-around when it reaches the end, because the table's width is locked at a smaller number.
|}
::::There's no way to lock a table open though, not unless you simply take the expandable class out. :P --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 13:55, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::But it's impossible to take "expandable" class out, because embedding html code is disabled on Bulbapedia. However, I at least succeeded in making the table caption "stand still".
:::::{| class="expandable"
|-
!align=left|Something is hidden here
|-
| This table has no border and no fixed width, but its title won't move when "[show]" is clicked. At least in my browser.
* If someone could make the link "[show]/[hide]" not move...
* And if someone could make it disappear with html code embedding disabled...
|}
:::::'''UPDATE.''' I've noticed an interesting effect in Opera 9.51. Before the whole page is loaded, all expandable tables are not collapsed. This means, if a spoiler will be hidden in such table, someone using Opera will have to avoid looking at the screen while the page is loading...
:::::--[[User:Pokeresp|Pokeresp]] 16:29, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::That's normal for all browsers; it loads the page content first, then loads the show/hide script. People will just have to make due as normal, back when we didn't have the show/hide script; don't scroll down when you see a spoiler alert.
::::::And as for the table you just made, if you give it a set width, it'll lock the little show/hide button in one spot. No need to add the border like I did, I only did that to make it easier to see what the table was doing.
::::::What I meant about taking the expandable class out:
::::::{|
|-
!align=left|This table is locked in the open position.
|-
| Because this table has had the expandable class removed, it can't be closed. Ta-da.
|}
::::::--[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 17:29, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

{{#time: h}}:{{#time: m}}

{{CURRENTTIME}}

Why are the minutes different on the two templates? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 01:29, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

:Good question. I suppose it depends on how the CURRENTTIME tool works, or something. Maybe one of them gets the time from one place, while the other gets it from somewhere else? They're exactly five minutes apart, that sounds almost like a refresh rate on something perhaps. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 02:04, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
::Because <code><nowiki>{{#time: m}}</nowiki></code> is the month number with a leading zero. It's {{#time: F}}, so it's {{#time: m}}. The correct minutes would be <code><nowiki>{{#time: i}}</nowiki></code>, as you can see...

::<code><nowiki>{{#time: H}}:{{#time: i}}</nowiki></code> makes {{#time: H}}:{{#time: i}}
::<code><nowiki>{{CURRENTTIME}}</nowiki></code> makes {{CURRENTTIME}}

::It's the same. Now watch this random calculated number change like nobody's business! {{#expr: ({{#time: U}} mod {{#time: s}}) + ({{#time: z}} mod {{#time: h}})}} (hint: it's ({{#time: U}}%{{#time: s}}) + ({{#time: z}}%{{#time: G}})). '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:48, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Aha! So ''that's'' how Arceus is set to randomly switch modes whenever you visit the page. I like that. I'll have to find some use for that now... --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 13:00, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

:::{{#time: h}}:{{#time: i}}
:::{{CURRENTTIME}}
:::What are <nowiki>{{#time: U}}</nowiki>, <nowiki>{{#time: z}}</nowiki>, and <nowiki>{{#time: G}}</nowiki> and how do you round a decimal to an integer? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 22:40, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
::::<code><nowiki>{{#time: U}}</nowiki></code> is seconds since January 1, 1970 at 12:00 AM. <code><nowiki>{{#time: z}}</nowiki></code> is how many days have passed since January 1 of this year. <code><nowiki>{{#time: G}}</nowiki></code> is the hour in 24-hour format without a padding 0 (<code><nowiki>{{#time: H}}</nowiki></code> has the padding zero, while the lowercase of each is the 12-hour version). [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:ParserFunctions See this page] for all of them... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:05, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

==Idea==
Okay, seeing as I'm not a part of any other part of bulbapedia, I can't post it anywhere else. The idea is a Pokémon fan wiki. Basically, it's a wiki for fanfic, ideas, interactive games, text adventures and anything else. I'ma guess you'd be able to make pages on your own fake pokémon. If you juys already have this, I apologize because I would not know. I got the idea from http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page . [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]]

:It sounds like a fun idea. I don't think it's a realistic option for Bulbapedia, or our servers; there's already a lot on the wiki, and we've already got limits on userspace stuff, because fanfics and games have clogged the servers before.
:But a wiki dedicated to the topic might be fun. It's actually not all that hard to start your own wiki, if you can find a webhost... I've got one of my own running on a mildly reliable free webhost. So don't forget that starting one yourself is a fine option. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 19:19, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
::I'm all for it. I don't have the money, time, know-how or "care" factor to do it myself, but a fan wiki would attract all the fancrufters away from here to a place where they can post their stuff without fear of reprimand or deletion. Transformers and Super Mario do it, I know, so I think it's a good idea. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 02:46, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
:::"Welcome to Pokémon Fancruft Wiki! Have fun editing here!"
:::...while I doubt that name would go over well, the basic idea would be popular. The question would be, is a Wiki really the best place for such things, or perhaps a simpler, "normal" submission-type website? Lots of people like fanfics, but how many like posting fanfics in a wiki?
:::Not counting the people here who do just that; most of them post fanfics here because they're already members, and at least a little familiar with wiki-code. Your average Pokémon fanboy/fangirl might not be so wiki-literate. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 05:02, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Everyone at the HRFWiki, WIki user Wiki and Kirby fanstuff wiki. BTW: it's fan'''STUFF''' not fancruft. [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]]

Talk:Main Page/Archive 6

2008-08-07T17:57:57Z

Strong Intelligent: Here we go!

'''This is the [[Bulbapedia:Talk page|talk page]] for the Bulbapedia's front page. If you have a general comment about the wiki, please consider placing it in [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 our forum].'''

== Previous discussions ==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]

== Congrats Bulbapedia ==

http://www.quantcast.com/bulbapedia.com

Congrats on all of the hits. I'm only confused on the gender demographic.[[User:GJPal|GJ]] 01:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

:You do realize that's an Advertisement right? --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 01:19, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

::I don't know whether Quantcast screwed up, or whether they're actually referring to a separate site. See, http://www.bulbapedia.com isn't affiliated with Bulbagarden or this wiki, to my knowledge. We're a different web address. So, either Quantcast's research does reflect our site and they just assumed our suffix was .com, or those stats actually have nothing to do with this wiki. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Actually, bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net is listed in the "similar audience" column to the right. I guess people go to bulbapedia.com when they hear about the site but not the URL. Anyway, [http://www.quantcast.com/bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net we're doing even better] than bulbapedia.com. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 01:54, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::::wow, i didnt know that many of you guys were asain... -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:09, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::I wonder, can Quantcast tell the difference between Asians and wannabe-Asians? A good number of users here use Japanese or Japanese-inspired names... my name's Japanese-inspired, and I'm born in NYC. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 03:16, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::I'm vietnamese, that's asian, but I was born in LA, the state~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]][[Special:Random|102]] 03:20, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Thanks for the correct info. There is still more girls though. I thought girls didn't exist on the Internet. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:GJPal|GJPal]] ([[User talk:GJPal|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GJPal|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
::::::::they dont. its just lots of boys using their mothers computer. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Or as World of Warcraft has shown us, its just guys pretending they are girls....[[User:Oak-leaf Knight|[[User:Oak-leaf Knight]]]] 04:42, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Does that mean Tina? PachirisuLover12? Pie? Zhen Lin? no, he is a boy~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]][[Special:Random|102]] 04:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::they could be. we dont know. thats the magic of the internet. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
You said it, not me...[[User:Oak-leaf Knight|[[User:Oak-leaf Knight]]]] 04:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:Begs the question on why guys would want to act as girls.
:...On second thougts, don't answer that. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 05:27, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::Errrr, I don't know. They want to be gay? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:30 4 Jun 2008'''''
:::I'm a G.i.r.l. too! (Guy In Real Life) --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 10:21, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
----
Well done, Bulbapedia. You have crawled your way up into the ranks where when people search for Pikachu, they get our page on Pikachu. Well done indeed...'''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:24 17 Jun 2008'''''
:Right behind Wikipedia's article on Pikachu, of course. :D --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 11:35, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::We're ahead for every other Pokaman. Proves how hard our contributors have been working. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''12:54 17 Jun 2008'''''

== Who Misspelled Categorized and Categorizing? ==
Fix the spelling. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:AaronV28|AaronV28]] ([[User talk:AaronV28|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/AaronV28|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:Typical human response. It's American English, not British. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''07:24 2 Jun 2008'''''
::American English would have the "z" in catergorizing. Since we use American English, it should be changed. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 12:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::It has been stated not to change from one to the other for the sheer sake of it. Either can be used, but American English is preferred. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 12:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Wait, ''where'' is it misspelled anyway? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::I changed it. It should be the last one in the history. That's why Glinn yelled abut changing it. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:59, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yelling GENERALLY USES CAPS LOCK LIKE THIS to emphasise its point. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 08:02, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I used yelled as a generic term. Would you rather I have said {{tt|talked|or wrote?}} matter-of-factly? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 14:51, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

== Collapsible Navboxes ==

can bulbapedia do collapsible boxes, and if so, how? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|Talk}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|Contribs}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|Mudkipz}}''' 21:14, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:We can, yes, we just haven't yet because we're against pretty much just jacking everyone's code. We likely will soon enough. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:51, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::But wikipedia and bulbapedia both run on mediawiki, so everything that works on one will work on the other, so why the big 'stealing other wikis code is not nice' thing? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|Talk}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|Contribs}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|Mudkipz}}''' 23:02, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Depending on the .js or .css coding we use, there's a few that are out there specifically to be used by anyone, so they're safe to take. I know of two types of collapsible boxes, I think... if I can just find the right one, I can check the source on it, it's easy enough to get up and running. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 09:32, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
::::is it done yet? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 11:37, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::I don't think I like them... They make things inconvienent and they subtract from the pages overall view. They make articles look lesss...complete. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 11:39, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::They've been added now. Inconvenient is only a matter of perspective; yes, you need to click to read everything, but at the same time, on pages that need collapsible boxes, it's easier to find what you're looking for when the big stuff's hidden initially. Anyway, see [[User talk:Poke/CollapsibleTables.js]] for the coding and instructions. You can format and color the tables just like any other table, so no worries about messing up themes or a page's "overall view". --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 00:15, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

== Anime pics ==

How do you get pictures of the anime episodes? If I try to play one on my computer and press "Print Scrn", the window where the video was is black. Is there any way around this? --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 23:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:We just get them fro Filb.de. But if you have Windows Movie Maker or some other type of movie maker, you can take screenshots from there. I'm sure websites like Filb.de use some special kind of program to get screenshots. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:07, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::DVD Shrink saved the DVD as a .ifo file, and Windows Movie Maker won't let me open it. What file type do I need to convert it to and how do I convert it to the correct type? --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 23:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

::: [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=RNWE%2CRNWE%3A2005-03%2CRNWE%3Aen&q=.ifo+converter] [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 03:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I have the "download codecs automatically" box checked, and I'm on an administrator account, but I get the error message:

<pre width="100%">The file F:\My Documents\My Videos\Pokémon The Rise of Darkrai.avi cannot be imported because the codec required to play the file is not installed on your computer. If you have already tried to download and install the codec, close and restart Windows Movie Maker, and then try to import the file again.</pre>

I've tried closing and restarting Windows Movie Maker several times but it still gives me the error. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 20:47, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

:If you could pause it without messing up the image, maybe you could just photo it. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
::A lot of video players have a feature that allows you to take screenshots. Media Player Classic is a good one. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:05, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

== James' not James's!!!!!! ==

EVERY SINGLE POSSESIVE FORM FOR JAMES ON THIS SITE IS WRONG! The possesive form of James is James', NOT James's[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 13:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:Then fix it when you see it's wrong. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 13:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:: Actually, both ''James's'' and ''James''' are [http://www.bartleby.com/141/strunk.html#1 accepted] [http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/possessives.htm possessive] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostrophe#Possessive_apostrophe forms]. (Note that that the 's is insisted upon in the ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MLA_style_manual The MLA Style Manual]'', as well as the ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elements_of_Style Elements of Style]'' which I believe is the writing standard we follow at Bulbapedia) The key is uniformity in the writing, thus, why ''James's'' is used on the Bulbapedia. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 13:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Now that they are moved, doesn't that mean we have double redirects everywhere?!? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]''
::::But proper english has '''s''' not '''s's'''. See here http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handouts/grammar/g_apost.html [[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 14:01, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::Okay, I'll get right on that. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 14:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::: The links I provided clearly state that ''both'' are in fact "proper English" and anyone that has written professionally adheres to the ''Elements of Style'', and ''The MLA Style Manual''. I would ask about this on the forums before going wild with editing and redirecting everything.
:::::::I really don't think that this will work because both the OP and the TP Templates/shortlinks only work and will result in James's Pokémon. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 14:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::The very page you cite does not support your claim. I quote, "add 's to the singular form of the word (even if it ends in -s)". James is, of course, singular. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 15:18, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::I asked my English teacher today, and it confirmed my thoughts that it's always just an apostrophe at the end of a name if the name ends with s. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 17:01, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Let's not forget it's the same English teachers who tell us that prepositions are not appropriate words to end sentences with. They are not always correct. '''James's''' is correct and the standard on Bulbapedia, end of discussion. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 02:05, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
And apparently there are people who will never learn. Due to actions by a user called, fittingly enough, {{u|Arbok and Weezing}}, every article starting with "James's" can no longer be moved by someone who doesn't have sysop powers. This blatant disregard for style left me with no choice. This whole issue has been discussed over and over again, and still people insist that the "James's" way is 100% incorrect. Please contact a sysop if a legitimate title change is necessary (such as [[James's Mime Jr.]] evolving, NOT changing [[James's Chimecho]] to "James' Chimecho"). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 06:05, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Isn't it funny that people are fighting over whether an "s" goes on the end of James or not? People should learn that it's a certain way on Bulbapedia and that they should abide by it.--[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:16, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:It's not so much that they argue...it's just...are ''tantrums'' necessary? And English is probably the worst of them all in terms of consistency. There's ten million ways to do everything. (So yeah...no screaming about it please.)--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 08:00, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
::This is probably where it is confusing people. There is a rule for names ending in "s" "vowel" "s". They probably think James falls under it when it doesn't. The only two names that do are Jesus and Moses. So those are the only two names and they actually should be Jesus' and Moses'. Those are the ''only two!'' ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 13:20, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Correction, I asked the Advanced Placement English teacher from my school which it should be (who has a doctorate in english!) and she said that it should always be James's and the only ones that do apply (Jesus and Moses) can actually go either way. So from now on, it should be James's, the ''correct'' way! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 13:36, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

== Wait a sec...... ==

How does this user [[User:SharkJamez]] have stuff on the user account if he joined after the 24th of march.
*20:08, June 6, 2008 SharkJamez (Talk | contribs) New user ‎
(When he joined)
[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 13:59, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

:That's due to the content having originally been posted on the talk page. Even prior to the userspace ban, there were instances where people had posted content more appropriate for the User namespace in the User talk namespace, and since this content didn't appear to be a blatant attempt to get around the userspace ban, the content was moved. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:14, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

== Look what I found ==

Look at this video I found on Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsopjAc2xok

--'''''Posted by''''' [[User:Deadlymethane|'''''Deadly''''']][[User talk:Deadlymethane|'''''methane''''']] '''at''' 20:16, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:Interesting. Too bad it doesn't really have a use yet. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Unown Q]] 03:40, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::It worked for me. I'm pressed for time, though, and not keen to experiment a lot. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:43, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:::What do you mean it has no use? If no AR was used used in that video, then you could get the events with tweaking. --'''''Posted by''''' [[User:Deadlymethane|'''''Deadly''''']][[User talk:Deadlymethane|'''''methane''''']] '''at''' 23:08, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I still cant figure out how to tweak.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 00:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::Go crazy on the D-pad. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:05, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

== My talk page ==

Is gone. Completely gone. As In I can not find any history, or anything...[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 18:32, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:Boo-hoo. Don't use it for useless blog crap this time. That's not what it's for. [[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]] 18:36, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::I did not use it for useless Blog $%^#. And even if the admins think I did, a warning would have been nice.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 18:38, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Your talk page had nonsense on it. We have been told to delete anything not having to do with Bulbapedia. Don't use your talk page for nonsense next time. You're not the only one this is going to happen to. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 18:39, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::::If I had been told that it would be wiped, I would have taken the axe to all the junk..... once again, would have been nice to have been forewarned[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 18:41, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::::You had ''fanfiction'' on it. What exactly do you think the forums are for if you're cluttering the wiki up with tripe like that? [[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]] 20:40, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::::This has gone way beyond the point of "warning" people. Honestly though, you have been warned. The discussion on the Bulbapedia forum has been going on for long enough that everyone should have seen what was going to happen, and what kinds of things are unacceptable. This junk in the user space that has nothing to do with Bulbapedia has been killing the server, and we've put up with it long enough. If you want to store fanfiction on Bulbagarden, that's what library.bulbagarden.net is for. If you want to have long discussions about any topic, that's what BMGf is for. --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 00:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Users with talk-page content that isn't about Bulbapedia should be warned ahead of time to give them time to back up the pages (this obviously applies only to things like fanfiction that the user might actually want to keep). --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 01:03, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:They can retrieve the information from the history, so it really makes no difference if they're warned or not. --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 01:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, when it is delted, you cant pull back from the history. And I already kiled the fan fic.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 01:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:::When removing stuff from talk pages, it's a much better idea to blank the page, not delete it. Deletion does absolutely nothing that blanking wouldn't do in this situation; the pages are still retained in the server database. At the very least, give users the ability to see ''what'' got deleted. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 01:53, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== Bots ==

How do you create bots? I want to make one myself rather than having someone else make one for me. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 16:12, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:If it isn't something that would be possible for me to do, I'd like a "shortcut" bot, named ShinyBot, that would change the following shortcuts into the correct code (to make editing easier by causing users to have to type less):

/d\→δ

/e\→é

/m\→♂

/f\→♀

//''Pokédex number''\\→<nowiki>[[Image:</nowiki>''Pokédex number''<nowiki>.png]]</nowiki>

/>''page name''<\→<nowiki>#redirect[[</nowiki>''page name''<nowiki>]]</nowiki>

/[''image name''][''image height''][''image width''][''title''][''page name'']\→<nowiki>{{Imagelink|</nowiki>''image name''<nowiki>|</nowiki>''image height''<nowiki>|</nowiki>''image width''<nowiki>|</nowiki>''title''<nowiki>|</nowiki>''page name''<nowiki>}}</nowiki>

More shortcuts possibly coming...

--[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 16:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

:Why not simply use the character palette? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 19:21, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

::As opposed to creating a bot who's job would be to make every edit into two edits. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 19:24, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

== Images ==

The images [[Image:Escape Formula Example 2.png]] and [[Image:Escape Formula Example 3.png]] don't show up, despite the fact that I've uploaded them ([[a:Image:Escape Formula Example 2.png]] and [[a:Image:Escape Formula Example 3.png]]). --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 21:22, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

:It's a bug. Images uploaded on the Archives may not show up on the Bulbapedia side at first. The situation usually sorts itself out over time, so I'd recommend leaving them as is--it'll probably fix itself eventually. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:25, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

== Userspace ==

No, this isn't another whine or complaint, it's an idea. Instead of having the admins try to find some complex programming to make a edit limit, why not try to ask Bulbagarden to make a new area to put the userspace in? Have the userspace from the forums, the archives, the wiki, everything, on a new server? Just thought I'd throw the idea out there and have someone at least tell me why it won't work. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 17:42, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:Servers aren't free. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 17:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, but put some of the donations from all the divisions toward it, and tell people that it would bring back the userspace... [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 17:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

There's honestly no reason to actually have a userspace, i liked it better when i couldn't see mine. It's pointless unless you really want people to know every detail about you, IMO.[[User:Boywonder01|'''Boy''']][[User talk:Boywonder01|'''wonder''']][[Special:Contributions/Boywonder01|'''01''']] 17:52, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Why not just redirect all userspace pages to talk pages and be done with it? -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Unown Q]] 22:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:at this point, it looks like the userspace will be dissallowed and user pages will have little information on them. seriously, you join to edit and contribute, not to show off [[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|your ideas]]. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Something to think about: Over on MarioWiki, one of our admins started a separate wiki (through wikia) called Userpedia, which is for all the community and fan crap. That might be a good solution to Bulbapedia's problems. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Unown Q]] 22:51, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:I had heard about that, that's sort of what gave me the idea. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 00:43, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
::It works out rather well, with the occasional overlap. I recently proposed to my fellow admins about doing what Bulbapedia did and just block all userspace edits. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Unown Q]] 01:00, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:I kinda like this ban, it weeds out the trolls and Bulbapedia moves forward.Of course, if it's permanent, you know the trolls will call shenanigans on the admins and the entire wiki.[[User:Boywonder01|'''Boy''']][[User talk:Boywonder01|'''wonder''']][[Special:Contributions/Boywonder01|'''01''']] 01:12, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:the idea may be an easy way out, but Zhen doesnt have the money to support ''another'' server. especially one for users to play around on. especially considering he already has [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/index.php something like that]. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:31, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:: [http://www.wikia.com/ Free solutions do exist.] -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Unown Q]] 03:30, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Wikia's only free money-wise. You pay for it in plenty of other ways. Trust me. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 04:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

::::Can someone tell me what servers are? I know thats what host the site, but what are they? [[User:Patriotfan09|'''Patriot''']][[User talk:Patriotfan09|'''fan''']][[User_talk:Patriotfan09/Phantom_Gym|'''09''']] 04:23, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::A Server is just a computer that has the entire website saved on it, basically. A much bigger computer then normal, of course... --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 06:28, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Why not delete the user pages and user talk pages of users who dont use bulba anymore?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 18:13, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::But then you have the problem of, what designates a user who doesn't use bulbapedia anymore? You can't ask them if they still use it, you can't be sure they'll give you an answer. Lots of users "lurk" (use the site, but don't necessarily edit all the time). Maybe a year's worth of inactivity, but that's not exactly easy to enforce.
:::::::I think userspace is still an important thing to have; it's always good to know who's who. A name only tells you so much. But there's a lot of stuff that doesn't need to be on a userpage. I want to know the editor, not know every little detail about the person and their family. K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple, Stupid) is a good rule for userspace.
:::::::Re-enabling userspace with restrictions, either on size, or scope, or number of edits, or all of the above... seems like a good idea. The problem is, how to do this simply. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 18:28, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the info. [[User:Patriotfan09|'''Patriot''']][[User talk:Patriotfan09|'''fan''']][[User_talk:Patriotfan09/Phantom_Gym|'''09''']] 22:56, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

== Wouldnt this be cool? ==

wouldnt it be cool that the day we get our 10,000th article we could have like an online party or something. or just like a celebration if we could find a website that could do that or something. but it would be fun wouldnt it!

its just an idea...

--[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 22:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

==Contents==
Hey, what happened to the contents column on the pages???????? --[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 03:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:Which pages are you talking about in particular? Any examples?
:I believe if they're not showing up at all, there's an option in your preferences to turn them off, so check that you didn't turn that on by mistake... --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 13:06, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

::Ok And I mean on every page i go on --[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]]
:::Still works for me, on all the pages that should have Contents (ToC is, by default, only visible if there's about three or more sections on the page). Check your preferences, is my bet. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 16:20, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

== My Pokémon Ranch ==

This is a new game avaliable for download on Wii (and since it is WiiWare, you have to have WiFi). As I was playing earlier, I realized that when Haley brings in Pokémon to the ranch, a description of the species appears. I'm not sure if it's identical to any descriptions so far, but I think it might be useful if it's put under "Pokédex Description" on the appropriate pages, though it's not really a Pokédex. [[User:Crüsäder|Crüsäder]] 14:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

:Could be worth a shot since Gen I & II Pokémon have their "Stadium" descriptions. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:19, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

::The only problem is, it doesn't show descriptions for all Pokémon, only the ones she brings in (as far as I've found, anyway). [[User:Crüsäder|Crüsäder]] 18:24, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Oh... Then maybe it's not that notable. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:37, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
::::If we can get a full set, it will probably be worth adding. How many Pokémon species can she bring in? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::She usually brings in one a day. [[User:Crüsäder|Crüsäder]] 16:09, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Is there potential for her to bring in one of every kind of Pokémon? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:42, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

You can have 1000 Pokémon in there so if anyone is willing to wait 1000 days to find out, then maybe it is. I doubt she will bring in the event pokémon though... Rabla (i don't have a sig yet)

:Hayley brought in a {{p|Hariyama}} to my ranch yesterday and its description was the same as its Pokédex entry on Diamond and Pearl (both are the same). So I'm guessing this is the same for all Pokémon. As for Pokémon with two different Pokédex entries, I'm not sure which she'll use. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:13, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

== ads ==

what is with the much-hated ads on the wiki?!?!?! i hate them, and what was wrong with the google adbar at the top?? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 11:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

:I was seeing them earlier, but now I don't anymore. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 13:20, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
::It depends on the skin u use.I have always used cologne blue, and as long as I am logged in, I see no ads.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 16:09, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

:::I always use monobook, because I've used it for so long, i know where everything is, and I like it. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 16:20, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I use cologne blue too, but I don't see the ads anymore when I'm logged out. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:25, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Some of the ads I've seen are a little racy. I'm an adult, so it doesn't really bother me, but I'd hate to hear of a kid whose mom flipped out because of some half-naked chicks on an otherwise kid-friendly Pokémon site. [[User:Amp|Amp]] 02:57, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
:Forums to report. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:42, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

I dont know if this is the right place, but im complaining about the ads. cant you do something? my computer keeps slowwing down to try and handle the pop ups. i want to look at Entei's move list, not see 'Mileys new video' or buy 'Phisiology'. please do something. {{unsigned|Chrishaylor}}
:If you sign in, you shouldn't see any ads at all, it was made that way. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 23:12, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
::that just forces people to join if they dont want to see the ads. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 11:43, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

== Season 11? ==

Is it true that the 11th season will be Pokémon Diamond and Pearl:Battle Dimension ? I have heard a lot about this and i was wondering if anyone could confirm it... - Rabla

[[Pokémon Diamond & Pearl: Battle Dimension| Pokémon Battle Dimension]]. Need more Proof? --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|Fire]] 08:54, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I've been watching battle dimension for over 2 months now so I dont get what your talking about. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 13:00, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
::Maybe this person is from a different country that hasn't aired any yet, did you think of that??!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 14:22, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Where i am they haven't even finished Diamond and Pearl yet -Rabla

Yes some countries don't stay with the US or Japan dub some may be more behind on the series--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 06:26, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

==12 articles left==
Number 10.000 is coming. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 08:10, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

== YAY! 10,000 ARTICLES ==

wow congrats guys on getting 10000 articles!

I remember when there was only 6,000!

--[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 20:01, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

:I also say, congrats Bulbapedia! 10,000... wow. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 21:47, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

:: Wow. If I may ask, which was the 10,000th page? I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 10:53, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
:::[[Koffing (EX Ruby & Sapphire 54)]] [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 10:56, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

And only 14 pages until it's 11,000! '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 09:46, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== Bulbapedia Pokémon League ==

Ok here’s the thing, I was wondering if anyone would be interested in making a Pokémon League with other Uses here on Bulba, after all most of us like making strong Pokémon teams – why not test them out. It would work over the WiFi using the D/P and PBR friend codes.

If you’re interested put your Sig below the Possible Rules on my talk page & I'll see how many are interested and we can go from there, I was thinking of starting it in about two weeks to give people time to get the Pokémon ready.

[[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]]
:Check the forums, maybe. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:02, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I found it - never thought to look there [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]]
:the league you found is from the forums. {{u|Porygon-Z}} created a league with Bulba members. you can check it out [http://ipgl.proboards84.com/index.cgi here.] -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:16, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
::No I just use Safari browser--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 09:33, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Ads ==

I've noticed that Bulbapedia now has ads on it, and some of the words are green, and when you scroll over them, this little popup box comes up. I'm wondering, why are they there some ads now? Lack of funding? [[User:TheStick|TheStick]]
:Bulbapedia has sold out to the man. Plain and simple.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 14:08, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

::From what I've read on the forums, it's part of a new server. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:00, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
:::I noticed that it only happens when I tried to view the site when I wasn't logged in. [[User:TheStick|TheStick]]

::::I believe that is the intention. Maybe it's a sneaky way to get people to join... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:28, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::Ho hum. The sidebar advertisement is actually well-placed, it's not in the way of anything. And it's banner ads for stuff like Nintendo (and Zwinky), so that's not awful either. I'm not liking the fat advertisement at the bottoms of pages (it should really be a horizontal banner ad, and not within the page content box). But all in all, it's a pretty sweet deal; site seems fast enough already, no ads when logged in, and all that. I'm jealous; GuildWiki is actually losing members over it's advertising system. (Wikia bought GuildWiki out, and they have really crappy ad locations, such as right in the middle of the page.)
:::::I'm looking forward to seeing this server in action. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 10:38, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

::::::What ads? When I'm on here I never see any ads?--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 03:20, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Maybe you missed the fourth comment in this section... - [[User:SpontaneousCombusken|spontaneous'''Combusken''']] 03:22, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::::I'll check....--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 03:31, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::::::I signed out but there was no ads only some words were highlighted green--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']]03:34, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

:-*de-indent* I logged out and turned off my Adblock Plus, and there are definitely advertisements, along with pop-ups (!!). - [[User:SpontaneousCombusken|spontaneous'''Combusken''']] 03:40, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:....................................all these popups...........I hate this website.....~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 03:44, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::I'm just lucky then --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 04:57, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:::[http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/?from=getfirefox Firefox 3]
:::[https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865 AdBlock Plus]
:::...and you're golden. I had to jump through all sorts of hoops, disabling features, just so I could see what the ads looked like. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 09:25, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::No I just use mostly Safari and a little FireFox browser--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 09:33, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:::YOU USE A MAC!!!!![[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 02:46, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

==Fourms==

Are the fourms currently down? I can't get on at all. Every time i go on, it has this wierd error message. ~09MurphyM

== Location Data ==

Where's a complete list of all location data in DP? I'm wondering because I saw a hacked Ho-Oh that I thought said it was from "Space World" but I didn't think PokéSav could create new location data. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 19:11, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
:[http://www.spaceworld.co.jp/english/ As yet unused promotional place.] '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:28, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
:As for that list, we only have one for Gen II and Gen III GBA. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:30, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

== whats wrong with pokemon.com? ==

everytime you try to go to pokemon.com, it says error, but when you type in www.pokemon.com it comes up with this weird page with news from may and june and something about a tournament.

I dont know if that happens a lot or what it means so does anyone else know if a server is just down or what? Thanks --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 13:09, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== The ads ==

Just a question.Do the ads pertain to wat you search[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]] 13:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:What are you talking about? I haven't seen ads on this site in ages. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 13:52, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
::Log out.It seem swat ever you have searched most will apear in the advertisements[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]] 13:54, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:::The ads are only visible to those not logged in. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 13:56, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== Roselia! ==

What does the scouter say about the amount of articles!? --'''''Posted by''''' [[User:Deadlymethane|'''''Deadly''''']][[User talk:Deadlymethane|'''''methane''''']] '''at''' 20:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
:IT'S OVER 9000!?!?!?!?!? [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 02:19, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
::actually its now over 11,000. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 11:42, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

== New Template ==

Can I make a new template thing about editing the user space?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]
:Sure, just do it in one edit! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 02:21, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
::How bout this:
<nowiki>=Please=</nowiki>
Slow down on editing the User Space.Editing the User Space too much will lead to it being locked again.Instead of doing 10 Small edits, why not use preview to check your edits before you preview.
:Thank you

:Made it quickly.Gonna make it under User:Darth Cookie Monster/Warning
::[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]] 02:26, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Put two equal signs on each side instead of one and make it so it automatically signs and it should be cool. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 02:31, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Cant figure that out.Can you add that and it should be good.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]] 02:33, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Thanks for the help.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]] 02:40, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

== requests ==

can we get a suggestion box that comes out of the search menu like wikipedia that way we get rid of the disambugation pages?
and can we upload to the site the Pokémon movies and be downloadable for members only? so if we do it do not spread the news. Please reply back, an admin please!!!!!!!!!!--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 14:37, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

:Well, I'm not an admin, but I ''seriously doubt'' that the movies will ever be available like that on this site. That is called piracy, after all. As far as the suggestion box thing, that'll probably happen when the wiki media deal gets an upgrade. Wikipedia is used as a testing ground for that stuff before other wikis get it. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:06, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
::NO!! Disambiguation pages are nice and convienent. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:36, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:::One, we had a vote on the Pokémon disambigs before. We're not gonna get rid of them. However, there is that sort of "suggestions" thing for the searchbar that I have in Firefox.
:::Also, downloadable movies? Dude, we're lucky that Nintendo isn't as sue-happy as Scientology for us just using official TCG cards. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:00, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Besides, Wikipedia still has its disambiguation pages even though it uses the suggestion table as you're typing into the search window. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:24, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

so lets say you type Pikachu, but you want Ash's Pikachu so the suggestion box will appear:
Pikachu (species)
Pikachu (Ash) redirects to Ash's Pikachu
Pikachu (Ritchie) redirects to Ritchies Pikachu
so this how it works, sorry about the movie thing I forgot about piracy. Also when you login and go to the main page, at the bottom can we also show how many active memebers in bulbapedia are present? --[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 05:56, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
:If you wanna see how many people are on, then go to the forum. This isn't one, it's a wiki. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 06:00, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

::Pokémon with unique names will have their pages titled as such, so [[Sparky]]'s page is located there. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 13:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

we can also get a prenounciation info box at the bottom of the Pokémon information box just like pokencyclopedia.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 14:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
:Er, what? If you mean a name pronunciation, we've been meaning to implement one and will attempt to do so soon... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:33, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

== Evobox? ==

Sorry if it is a stupid question, but where are [[Template:Evobox/1]] and [[Template:Evobox/2]] gone? --[[User:Pokeresp|Pokeresp]] 11:16, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
:Something is wrong with the database. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 12:04, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

== Something's not right here.... ==

The page for [[Scuz]] seems to be not working. What's going on here? I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 12:31, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
:See above. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 15:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

== Categories for players of all game versions ==

Why do we have categories for OSes (like "Windows Users" or "Linux users"), browsers (like "Firefox users"), even for types (like "Water users"), but no special categories for different game versions? IMHO, we should create them and add to <nowiki>{{User Diamond}}, {{User Pearl}}, {{User Emerald}} and other game tags. At least everyone would know, who might want to trade some version-exclusives.</nowiki> --[[User:Pokeresp|Pokeresp]] 11:38, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm, a good question. My guess is that nobody thought to categorize the templates... I think it shouldn't be tough to add them in. Games aren't region-exclusive, correct? Meaning some with a Japanese Blue can trade with someone with an English Blue... so in the case of the (JP) game templates, I say we categorize those just as Blue and Red versions. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 13:35, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
::I think, it would be better to add each template to both categories, e.g. "Players of Diamond" and "Players of Diamond (Japanese version)", since Pokémon from other regions get an experience bonus. But such categorising would not help only trading, but would also be good for statistical purposes :-) etc. --[[User:Pokeresp|Pokeresp]] 17:54, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
:::For things like Japanese Diamond, there'd be no point, since they're the same game. Besides, you're forgetting, Pokémon that have been traded always gain an EXP boost, not just from other regions. I was merely meaning Japanese Blue, but I might need to look at that one in particular again; I think there was something about the Japanese Blue only being in Japanese, and the English Blue being a different game entirely. Otherwise, for trading purposes, both categories could be put in a single box, so people looking for players with Blue don't need to check multiple categories. I'll check it now, and probably start adding tags while I'm at it. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 23:36, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
::::All done. I just need to give the categories their own pages. Blue and Blue (JP) are different games, so no need for multiple tags there. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 00:10, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

How do you make a thing like some of the templates on Wikipedia where you click the word "hide"/"show" and it toggles the links in the template? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 04:21, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
:class="expandable" or class="collapsible" on the table. See...

{| class="expandable"
|-
! This is a table
|-
| And this is the stuff inside! It can be hidden!
|}
:'''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:07, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
::I always loved how enthusiastic you are about coding, TTE.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 07:30, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Is it possible to do it without the label moving when the text appears? Or with the label disappearing, so that the text could be shown and not hidden again? --[[User:Pokeresp|Pokeresp]] 11:33, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
::::If you set the box width in the code (put <code><nowiki><width="350px"></nowiki></code> in the table), then it should lock it in at the same size, open or closed.
{| class="expandable" width="350px" border="1px black"
|-
| This table has a set width (and a border)
|-
| This arbitrarily long section of content will be forced to wrap-around when it reaches the end, because the table's width is locked at a smaller number.
|}
::::There's no way to lock a table open though, not unless you simply take the expandable class out. :P --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 13:55, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::But it's impossible to take "expandable" class out, because embedding html code is disabled on Bulbapedia. However, I at least succeeded in making the table caption "stand still".
:::::{| class="expandable"
|-
!align=left|Something is hidden here
|-
| This table has no border and no fixed width, but its title won't move when "[show]" is clicked. At least in my browser.
* If someone could make the link "[show]/[hide]" not move...
* And if someone could make it disappear with html code embedding disabled...
|}
:::::'''UPDATE.''' I've noticed an interesting effect in Opera 9.51. Before the whole page is loaded, all expandable tables are not collapsed. This means, if a spoiler will be hidden in such table, someone using Opera will have to avoid looking at the screen while the page is loading...
:::::--[[User:Pokeresp|Pokeresp]] 16:29, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::That's normal for all browsers; it loads the page content first, then loads the show/hide script. People will just have to make due as normal, back when we didn't have the show/hide script; don't scroll down when you see a spoiler alert.
::::::And as for the table you just made, if you give it a set width, it'll lock the little show/hide button in one spot. No need to add the border like I did, I only did that to make it easier to see what the table was doing.
::::::What I meant about taking the expandable class out:
::::::{|
|-
!align=left|This table is locked in the open position.
|-
| Because this table has had the expandable class removed, it can't be closed. Ta-da.
|}
::::::--[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 17:29, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

{{#time: h}}:{{#time: m}}

{{CURRENTTIME}}

Why are the minutes different on the two templates? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 01:29, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

:Good question. I suppose it depends on how the CURRENTTIME tool works, or something. Maybe one of them gets the time from one place, while the other gets it from somewhere else? They're exactly five minutes apart, that sounds almost like a refresh rate on something perhaps. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 02:04, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
::Because <code><nowiki>{{#time: m}}</nowiki></code> is the month number with a leading zero. It's {{#time: F}}, so it's {{#time: m}}. The correct minutes would be <code><nowiki>{{#time: i}}</nowiki></code>, as you can see...

::<code><nowiki>{{#time: H}}:{{#time: i}}</nowiki></code> makes {{#time: H}}:{{#time: i}}
::<code><nowiki>{{CURRENTTIME}}</nowiki></code> makes {{CURRENTTIME}}

::It's the same. Now watch this random calculated number change like nobody's business! {{#expr: ({{#time: U}} mod {{#time: s}}) + ({{#time: z}} mod {{#time: h}})}} (hint: it's ({{#time: U}}%{{#time: s}}) + ({{#time: z}}%{{#time: G}})). '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:48, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Aha! So ''that's'' how Arceus is set to randomly switch modes whenever you visit the page. I like that. I'll have to find some use for that now... --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 13:00, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

==Idea==
Okay, seeing as I'm not a part of any other part of bulbapedia, I can't post it anywhere else. The idea is a Pokémon fan wiki. Basically, it's a wiki for fanfic, ideas, interactive games, text adventures and anything else. I'ma guess you'd be able to make pages on your own fake pokémon. If you juys already have this, I apologize because I would not know. I got the idea from http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page . [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]]

Talk:Ho-Oh (Pokémon)

2008-08-06T09:00:54Z

Strong Intelligent:

So the name IS Ho-oh?

Anybody got a screenshot to lay it down one way or another? [[User:Evkl|Evkl]] 19:48, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Evkl, the name is Ho-Oh. Check it out here:

http://www.pokemon.com

It also says that name in the Nintendo Power Pokémon Colosseum strategy guide, the Pokémon Official Pokédex book, Prima's strategy guide, Nintendo.com... The name *IS* Ho-Oh.

Ledian_X

All online refrences I've seen put a lowercase O. The games are utterly inconclusive, being in all caps... [[User:Evkl|Evkl]] 20:27, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Ditto to that. [[User:Surskitty|surskitty]]

Don't forget the NP FireRed/LeafGreen guide and a poster from a fairly recent issue of Nintendo Power, which both use an uppercase "O". However, older official material, such as the NP Pokémon Crystal guide, say "Ho-oh", so I guess NOA changed its mind as some point. Right now I'm *considering* moving the article and updating all related pages to reflect this.
[[User:Woopert|Woopert]] 20:41, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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Uhh run that past Evkl first. I also got a screenshot confirmation that it is Ho-Oh. It was from the anime. The episode title screen and it says "For Ho-Oh, the Bell Tolls". It's also Ho-Oh in the Prima guide with the (TM) at the top. IIt's officially confirmed as Ho-Oh.

Ledian_X

Chris has shown me a screencap which includes a capital O, which is the closest to a canon source I've been able to find up until now. So I'm leaning towards Ho-Oh. [[User:Evkl|Evkl]] 20:53, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

'''Note by evkl: The Prima guide is NOT Canon.'''

Despite what I've said on AIM about its spelling, Pokemon.com [[http://www.pokemon.com/media/television/index.asp?ep=298 shows it as "Ho-oh"]] whereas I thought it listed otherwise. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]] 00:09, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

And to add the anime episode title, there's the GBA Video's page for [[https://www.nintendo.com/gamemini?gameid=2da810b1-52cf-48e7-bc01-a3f5ba83f95e the episode]] which uses "Ho-Oh" as said above. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]] 04:22, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

==Ho-Oh in the anime==

We know that Ho-Oh was the first Pokémon seen in the animé, in the first episode. This always led me to believe that Ho-Oh was infact invented by the animé creators, when making the sequals, they attempted to cash in on it by making it a proper Pokémon. (Highly similar to the release of Yellow infact) I also always thought that Marill was also created the same way, by the animé guys and then used in the games. (Although the showing of Marill and release of G/S are not half as far apart as the Ho-Oh appearance.) Anyway, I was wondering if there is any evidence at all to suggest Ho-Oh was made by the animé guys? And if maybe this is worth mentioning in the article, I always thought it was fishy at least. - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 10:29, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The stylistic similarities between the RBY generation of Pokemon and the GSC are high and so its likely that the first 251 pokemon were conceived at the same time hence why Ho-oh appears in the first episode. Afterall, there is apparently about 1000 original concept drawings by the original creator of pokemon so that suggests that a lot about the pokemon world was already finalised before the anime was in production.
--[[User:Ainohuyuah|Ainohuyuah]] 12:24, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==Pronounciation==
How is Ho-Oh pronounced? I think it's ''hutt-o'' or ''Ho-ho'' Well? [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]]

Talk:Shaymin (Pokémon)/Archive 2

2008-08-06T08:39:12Z

Strong Intelligent: /* Sprites */

== Previous discussions ==
* [[Talk:Shaymin (Pokémon)/Archive 1|Archive]]

== Sky Form Image? ==
Posted by 2/4chan apparantly. --[[User:Jennyrogue|JennyRogue]]
:...ew. It's pretty much just skinnier with longer limbs. Like when you hack Pikachu in Brawl to have Ganondorf's moves.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:08, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::I can't see the image because i'm at school but i saw a picture of it before i left home this morning (I think there the same picture so yeah), too be honest, i actually like it (: Sky form = Cool. Normal form = Cute. Well, the sky form looks sorta bad-ass too me actually (: [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 07:44, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Congratulations! Your Shaymin evolved into some Eevee thingy. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:31, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::xD [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 09:11, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::: It looks.......... Ok..... *Shoots Ken Sugimori*, But it's not that bad. --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 09:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:WHAT? Just as I was going against this 'Sky Form'...Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:44 23 May 2008'''''
::::::Its not to bad. Leafeon with more leaves and a flower and more white. yea not bad although I want to see what the sprite will be.--lord mada 15:26, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Looks Lisa-Frank like. Or like some Mary-Sue's pet. Ugh. I don't think I like this form one bit. :| [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|☆]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 16:23, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I think it's beautiful. you all probably didn't like it cause it changed from cute to mature and older-looking'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 17:40, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Of course, since I'm the stereotypical girl who only likes "ZOMG ADORABLE! ^____________^;" things and always makes her fanfiction characters start out with Eevee and Shaymin. Yeah, kill me for having my opinion. :| [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|☆]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 18:24, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::I'm not a big judger IN A NEGATIVE WAY like SOME PEOPLE  :)'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 18:58, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::I think it's still cute.^__^ '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 19:13, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::oo a girl that's different, that's cool :D'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 19:14, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::It looks like a goat with wings.......[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|C is for Cookie]] 19:16, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::How can you saw that???!!! It's adorable!!!!! '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 19:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

i wish i had a flying goat...{{u|Garrison12795}}

Wow It looks Like Shaymin Bred With Leafeon. I dont get it hows it Sky Form/e. I doesnt look like it can fly, but who knows because {{p|Ekans}} Can swim!!!''[[User:David aipom|David]]
''Aipom

:Well duh snakes can swim. It has wings, but not exactly the aerodymanics to fly'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 20:22, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

They look like leafs and i didnt expect all snakes to swim.''[[User:David aipom|David]]
''Aipom

:What do you think the wings are supposed to look like for a pure grass-type? and yes all snakes can swim'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 20:31, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::It's pretty obvious that this Shaymin is not pure Grass-type. It's Grass/Flying much like {{p|Tropius}} but Tropius' wings DO look like wings. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 21:05, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Hey, flyon and giratina have wings and are not of the flying type. If Shaymin does change forme, this will be the first time a Pokémon's type would be changed (excluding Arceus, but the whole point of Arceus's different formes is to have different types)'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 21:15, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::*You forgot that {{p|Castform}} also changes its form and it's type.
::::*{{p|Flygon}} has Levitate because it can't have 3 types (Dragon/Ground/Flying).
::::*We don't know if the Origin Forme will have a different ability.

::::With that in mind it's still possible that Shaymin will be part Flying type, as it's name is "Sky Form(e)". If it ain't Flying type, then it will have Levitate as ability. If not, the name won't be justifying why is it different than the Shaymin we all know. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 21:49, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::You know, it's Sky Forme, not Flying Forme. Just because the sky is up in the air doesn't mean it has anything to do with flying-types. Flygon has wings, and can fly, and it's a part ground type. The type can be completely unpredictable'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 21:53, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::I'm just saying that Giratina has wings, not flying type. Flygon too, and it's a ground type, yet it has wings. Castform change is forme is basically because of for the type-change, similar to Arceus'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 21:55, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::No Pokémon that live in the sky is not part Flying or has levitate as Ability. I know you think of Giratina, but he lives in the reverse world where there's no sky nor ground. I think it's better to wait what does Platinum tell us (or at least the Giratina's movie). '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 22:00, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I wasn't thinking of Giratina, I'm thinking of Flygon. LOOK, I just think that Shaymin won't change type. Therefore I think it will have Levitate. HEY I HAVE NEVER PLAYED A MAIN SERIES POKéMON GAME IN MY LIFE'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 22:08, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't see why you try to make me feel stupid, I've never told ya it won't have levitate. I already said that ALL Pokémon, excluding Giratina, '''that can fly''' are part Flying-type '''''OR''''' have Levitate as ability.
I get your point that Flygon is Ground/Dragon and has wings, but it still flies and has Levitate. I know that maybe Shaymin will have Levitate and I already said that. And finally, if I'm a new user here that doesn't mean that I'm stupid or I know nothing. I did not offend you so you don't offend me, right? '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 22:20, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Look @ the tail! It could be used as a propeller!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:14, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:You do all realize that this is fake, right? [http://lexyeevee.livejournal.com/289857.html] --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:24, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

We hadn't seen the news so NO! But who is covering this over @ Bulbanews?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 01:47, 24 May 2008
(UTC)

::You guys do realize giratina can learn fly? [[User:Atomix26|Atomix26]] 14:51, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

::: also go to [http://www.ani.tv/pokemon/] I saw the website in an ad for the 11 movie! [[User:Atomix26|Atomix26]] 16:18, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

:::: also [http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/] and [http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/skyforme/index.html] [[User:Atomix26|Atomix26]] 16:31, 19 June 2008 (UTC) I consider to have proved the sky form and I want kudos!

==== ???? ====
UHM...Am i the only person who sees something a bit WRONG with that image? 0___0 Cos its coming up as porn on my computer... Not that i don't mind porn but still...wtf? [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 10:42, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm, wait, let me see. Could be a virus. Does anything else turn up as porn? {{ani|493}} click on the image that appears when you click the Arceus. Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:58 25 May 2008'''''
::Nothing else is coming up as porn :\ Or coming up as anything it isn't/shouldn't be |: [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 11:01, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Damn. I'm scarred for life. Someone tell me why I keep running into porn on Bulbapedia? Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:03 25 May 2008'''''

:I checked the history and even tried to cut'n'paste on the link...the pic is ''not'' coming up as porn for me. Maybe someone switched it back? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:00, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

=== PK Does It Again ===

Its Fake. Read This:http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml ''[[User:David aipom|David]]
{{p|aipom|''Aipom
}}[[User talk:David aipom|♫]]
:that just says that particular image is fake, and a sky form(e) could still be in existance (or beta) '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 10:38, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I no, I hope its real and that it looks like this picture because i love its tail. ''[[User:David aipom|David]]
{{p|aipom|''Aipom
}}[[User talk:David aipom|♫]]

OMG David aipom are you that dumb. PK made it it is fake. It is not real. [[User:Crystallucario|~'''Crystal''']][[User talk:Crystallucario|~'''Lucario~''']]

I NO ITS FAKE. I meant the Sky Forme. I just hope it looks like that! ''[[User:David aipom|David]]
{{p|aipom|''Aipom
}}[[User talk:David aipom|♫]]
:You spelled '''know''' wrong. And I hope that it looks like a ''slightly'' altered version of that above'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 13:12, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
::I don't like having a fool made out of me we have all been had--lord mada 16:07, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Heh. PK's fakes are annoyingly good. Hope the real Sky Form(e) looks that good. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 16:19, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
:Agreed. And the dude responsible congratulated Bulbanews on not jumping on this story... doesn't that make you guys feel warm and fuzzy? --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 19:32, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
::I think this is funny LOL xD '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 22:13, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
:::I knew it. (A 'flying' Regigigas form was also reported. I BET it's fake!) I mean, hedgehogs can't change shape, right? Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''08:03 25 May 2008'''''
::::Nope. Of course, neither can ghost-dragons. [[Giratina (Pokémon)|OH, WAIT]]. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 09:53, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:Dragons were based on Serpents. Origine Forme lookse like ae serpente. Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:02 25 May 2008'''''

== shaymin's alternate form?? ==

well hello i'm new but i found this link that someone made an alternate form of shaymin to fool people [http://purplekecleon.deviantart.com/art/Shaymin-Sky-Forme-86526449 so take a look at this]

plus [http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml some news from serebii]
& [http://serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=322086&page=12 from the forums in serebii]

however this shaymin sky forme thing could be a massive hoax as serebii said so if you know it, you might as well [http://lexyeevee.livejournal.com/289857.html a look at this also] [[User:Harith.DS|Harith.DS]] 10:14, 25 May 2008 (UTC)Harith.DS
:Debated above. It already has been considered fake. Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:19 25 May 2008'''''

:The picture was a fake, but the fact that a sky form exists is true. [[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 12:05, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
::Is ''likely'' to be true'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 13:12, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:::I don't see why you love to assume, Shiny Noctowl. For now, as no OFFICIAL evidence is provided, we have to consider it fake. Although the Flying Regigigas idea was terrible too. It's Da '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''05:49 26 May 2008''''' 05:49, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

It's nice that Shaymin has a Sky Form, though I fear what Regigigas may look like in its alternate form... [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 23:06, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

== Another possible form for Shaymin ==

http://www.serebii.net/shayminsky2.jpg

this is an image of what look like some kind of Shaymin form. it was originally a small image so it is pixelated it looks like it has marijuana on its head? found on http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml --lord mada 15:04, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Is that really Shaymin's alternate form? O_o [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 15:31, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:: We don't know yet but it looks abit like an Eevee evolution crossed with a Snover.[[User:David aipom|Davidaipom]] 15:33, 6 June 2008 (UTC)♂

Chances are that I'm jumping to conclusions, but could that be a Fifth Gen? (Because it looks nothing like Shaymin unless there's a better picture of that Pokémon, and if it has green eyes, THEN it's Shaymin.) [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 15:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

::It doesn't look like a Shymin to me...--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 15:42, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:::looks angry, whatever he, she, or it is. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 15:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I repeat the question: Could that be a new Pokémon? [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 15:47, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:It possibly is. It looks NOTHING like any Shaymin.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 15:48, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

::Not "nothing". --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 17:34, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

And now, question two: if that ''really'' is a new Pokémon, does it mean Game Freak still has a few ideas up its sleeve? [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 16:14, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:Oh! Not just a few. They have a lot! They still have many, many game version titles in their trademark!--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 16:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Is it possible they'll reach 1000? [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 16:22, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
:This is NOT a New Pokémon! They have not even revealed the entire Generation IV, what would make them to start the fifth Generation? There's not even a scheduled successor for the DS. Like it or not, IT'S SHAYMIN. - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 16:25, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
::The Pokemon company is more than likely to keep on going. They are getting so much money, why would they stop? Am I right?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 16:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

-__- I'm not going to go there... Let's hope an administrator comes by and see what he (or she) says about this. [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 16:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
::Just because they are admins, that doesn't mean they'll know what it is...THey'll just give their own opinion which is no different than our's.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 16:36, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

In that case, we're sitting Psyduck... -__- [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 16:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:At the unpredicatability rate we're going, that "thing" (if real) will probably be on [[Brock]]'s team by the [[Giratina and the Sky's Bouquet: Shaymin|11th movie]]. Granted, odds are better for the current teams of all of the main characters save {{TP|Ash|Pikachu}} and {{MTR}} having reached their final evolutionary forms by that point in time than that mystery creature ending up on Brock's team...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:That still doesn't explain what it is.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 16:53, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I doubt it's Shaymin somewhat, since Shaymin's head is connected to it's body without a neck to seperate. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 16:55, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:I agree, but if it is a Shaymin, it is a different form of it, which would explain why it has a neck. And is that a rose on its back?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 16:58, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I think you might be on to something. If only they had a better picture! [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:07, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:DOes anyone have a program where they can blow up the picture without losing any resolution?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
:I was Zooming into the picture and pixelating the picture as I went to take a closer look. Now I KNOW 90% that it is NOT a Shaymin! It has Yellow years and two huge antlers. Could it be the pre-evolutional form of Stantler?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

WHAAAAAAAAAAT?! A new Pokémon?! [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:And the thing that looks like a rose appears to be its TAIL. IT HAS CHRISTMAS COLORS!!!It all makes sense!--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:35, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

By the way, Platinum is coming out this fall in Japan. (The successor to Diamond and Pearl.)[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, not surprising. I knew about it even before CoroCoro released it. THis Pokemon MUST be a Gen V!--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

::''Platinum'' is not Gen V. Besides, it looks like Leafeon with a way wrong color scheme. It's clear another artist drew those Pokémon. Pikacku even looks off... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:06, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Mother of Palkia! I can't believe this! [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:We know Platinum is not Gen V. BlueJirachi was just mentioning it...And BlueJirachi, You gotta believe it, cause this is reality!--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 18:12, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

''(Jaw hangs open)'' This is just like Munchlax in [[Destiny Deoxys]]! [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 18:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
:Since this isn't Shaymin, we're moving this Pokemon's talk page to mine.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 18:19, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

And here's this sticker that was found.
http://blog-imgs-19.fc2.com/r/a/i/raim2005/img080607.jpg
This is looking a lot more legit than the other disaster. Toastypk 07:50, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:And no, it is not the Munchlax. Please, people. Deoxys was known far and wide in that exact movie. Arceus? He's too busy killing whatever you idiots made up. For the last time, IT IS NOT REAL SO STOP BITCHING ABOUT THIS 'CUP'. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''08:03 7 Jun 2008'''''

http://www.serebii.net/shayminsky3.jpg

more yet evidence.however unconfirmed source for this image of Shaymin found on http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml --lord mada 11:32, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

The CUP is not fake, but I think this sticker is. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 15:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

http://www.serebii.net/shayminsky4.jpg
http://pokemon-safari.com/sitio/noticias/data/upimages/reconstruccion.png

OK we can't deny it now. The first image was posted On a Japanese Blog blue skY obtained images of some badges set for release at the end of the month to promote the 11th movie. The second image is a reconstruction done by PoKeSaFaRi who I'm sure we all thank very much. --lord mada 09:30, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

*frowns* Why does it have wings on only one side? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:I'm sure will see when the film is released and we see it in flight --lord mada 11:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
::So can we finally add this to Shaymin's page? I'd do it myself, but of course the article is locked preventing info from being added to it, except by a few people. Also someone on deviantart made a really neat sky form sprite, I'm going to see what he thinks of bulbapedia using it. Toastypk 17:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

well it was confirmed on serebii that this is a confirmed sky forme of shaymin and it is grass/flying

== Sky Forme is a fake ==

Not sure if any of you guys have seen this page, but it was all a hoax. Sky Forme and all.

[http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Shaymin Hoax History] NSFW. Well, one image is, but the rest of the site you might not enjoy.

Good news is that that might be a new Poke'mon on the cup.
:That version of the Sky Forme is fake, yes, but as far as the cup goes, no, I don't think it's some Gen V Pokémon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::New Generation=New console. We don't even have a new console (DS LITE IS NOT COUNTED. IT FUNCTIONS EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE ORIGNAL DS) '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''07:58 7 Jun 2008'''''

:::The unknown Pokémon shown on the cup is Sky Forme Shaymin. The cup image was posted on an official web site and subsequently removed. There is a trademark registered for both "Sky Forme" and "Land Forme", and as of now, the original Shaymin is officially known as Land Forme. Sky Forme's announcement is imminent, but due to an error, we've already seen a glimpse of it on said cup.

:::The latest image is most likely real, as well. If nothing more, it gives us a better idea of what Sky Forme looks like in the previous image. Anyone who thinks this is a new Pokémon is fooling themselves. [[User talk:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 08:54, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::So there is a Sky Forme...Hmm, I never thought it was an official site. Is it? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:02 7 Jun 2008'''''
:::::It is. [http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1484/skyformehe6.png Here] is a screenshot of the page that was available to be viewed yesterday, only to be brought down since then. [[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 09:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Thank you for sharing your wisdom with me. Now...put it on Shaymin's page? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:19 7 Jun 2008'''''
:::::::I have added a trivia paragraph explaining the meaning of "Land Forme" and "Sky Forme". The images should be dealt by Bulbanews for the time being. [[User talk:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 10:54, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::: You may wish to reword that paragraph. It reads like speculation. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::::: I don't see how it does. The facts are stated without confusing the present with the future. --[[User talk:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 07:13, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::: Have another look at the 'it seems evident' bit. It just screams 'this is an opinion'. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

It has green eyes. Shaymin has green eyes. [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 13:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::I see you gave in --lord mada 14:15, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I didn't mean that. I just pointed it out. But is that really a rose on its back, because now I'm all screwed up. [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 14:18, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:I meant [[User talk:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] gave in not you. I'm not really sure if it is a rose or wings or whatever it is but we will see one the film comes out won't we. --lord mada 14:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh. If it is wings, then those are the oddest-looking wings I've ever seen.[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 14:45, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:{{p|tropius}} --lord mada 15:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Then wouldn't that make Shaymin a Grass-Flying Pokémon? [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 15:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:No what I'm saying is tropius' wings are odd-looking too --lord mada 15:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:It might, but that'd be very unusual. It might be Grass-type with Levitate ability, which would be more reasonable. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 15:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
I think it will just be a grass type with a different forme, same ability and a slightly different move set and the forme will return to land forme when traded with d/p but if they change the ability it could cause problems for D/P but changing the move set wont be a problem for the previous games to handle --lord mada 15:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
::Have you had Deoxys battles in Gen III? They're totally safe despite Deoxys has totally different base stats in every game (only the sprites are a bit annoying). I think this won't be the exception. How do you know? Maybe the game engine has been developed to ensure compatibility even if the same Pokémon has a different ability in another version of the game (or even different type combination). '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 22:13, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

If there was a sprite for sky forme in D/P we would know. Like we know about {{p|Arceus}}' ??? forme it would be in D/P game data in the game data. OK I think I'm possibly wrong about the ability --lord mada 22:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:Have you ever considered it is just like Deoxys? There are different forms depending on which version the Pokémon is in. Giritina will probably go through this. As will the "supposed" Sky Forme of Shaymin.[[User:GJPal|GJ]] 23:08, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I've considered it now and I agree --lord mada 23:09, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

== So can we finally unlock this? ==

There is so much confirmed information I (and I'm sure others) want to add, but the article is locked. This isn't a rumor anymore.

-Pictures of Sky form (scan, sprite) 
-Height and Weight

Among other bits of info. Toastypk 17:15, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
:Also Sugimori art and anime art. tc26 23:28, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Shaymin Sky Form: [[Image:ShayminSky.png]]

:Do you have a cleaned-up version of Sky Form Shaymin's sprite? --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 17:53, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

:We probably won't have that until someone gets their hands on the game. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 21:46, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::We have Giratina's Platinum sprite, and it was also just extracted from a CoroCoro page. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 23:51, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:I have a cleaned up sprite. [[User:GanLnkZld|- GanLnkZld]] 7:42, 17 June 2008(UTC)
::upload it then call it "Spr 4p 492.png" --lord mada 14:56, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I did that, but it didn't show up on the Shaymin page. And you can't edit anything on that page which totally sucks. Also, I'm pretty new here; is there an administrator that can help put it up? [[User:GanLnkZld|- GanLnkZld]] 16:23, 17 June 2008(UTC)
::::Nothing you can edit on this page can solve that problem. Check the page again tomorrow. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 16:39, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Now wait, is it the real sprite or is it a custom sprite? I just saw what you uploaded to the archives. That is a terrible quality and it is unacceptable. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 16:58, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:Sheimi battle Platinum.png|right|source of sprite]]
:It may not be a brilliant extract from the image we have but it is real and we aren't getting the sprite properly until the game comes out. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:35, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::Then we shouldn't have it at all. Period. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 17:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:::We need it, it's just temporary for now and once the game comes out we'll get its crisp, beautifully-rendered form, but until then this crappy screenshot which isn't full size is all we're gonna get. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I agree. it's nicer looking than a broken link anyway --lord mada 17:54, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Is this the picture you saw, because I uploaded two. One of them was very crappy. This is the better one. [[User:GanLnkZld|- GanLnkZld]] 19:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[[Image:Shaymin_Sky_Sprite_2.png]]
:I don't get it. Why is Archives being an ass as far as interwiki image updates go? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:04, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
So I ask again. Can we finally unlock this? Toastypk 19:56, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

== OH NO! ==

hey! remove that sprite of Shaiymin please!! it looks soooo crapy... a sprite should be in good quality to be uploaded, like Giratina's. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 02:45, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:I have to agree...I'm sure we can wait for a screenshot of correct resolution instead of improvising that...thing.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:41, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::Sorry. I'm the one that uploaded that piece of crap. For some reason, every time I upload a new version of that image it always changes back to the first version for a day or two, then it changes to the new one. Maybe it's because the article is protected. Anyways, it should fix itself pretty soon. This is what it should look like: [[Image:Shaymin_Sky_Form_Image.png‎]][[User:GanLnkZld|GanLnkZld]] 18:26, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

1 question, do we need the event for shaymin in Pokémon Platinum?
--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 10:04, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
:I question: Could one get Jirachi or Deoxys in Emerald without the event? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:59 5 Jul 2008'''''

== Glacidia's Flower ==

Look at [http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml this]! Looks like Land Forme isn't exclusive to Diamond and Pearl anymore! Blazevoir 21:40, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
:I know but it's not that confirmed.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 21:55, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
I trust that site and would like it to be true, but yeah CoolPikachu is right. I think it is though.-Rabla

== Height and Weight ==

Although I can't read Japanese at all, I am guessing by [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/platinum/hotnews/01.html this trusted site] that Sky Forme weighs 5.2 kg and is 0.4 m tall. Someone should probably update the page. Also under the gold arrow I think it has some information about trading Shaymin to Platinum from Diamond and Pearl. I am just guessing this by the box art. -- [[User:23-03-33]] 04:20, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
:Updated. No idea what's up with the trading. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:58, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

== Art in the infobox ==

I know with Deoxys we do the "standard forme" thing... but we have Wormadam with all three of her coats, same with Burmy, and Shellos and Gastrodon in both West and East Sea variations. I know that's how the Sugimori art came, but why the heck not combine the images into one, then put it in the infobox? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:42, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
:Hm? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:09, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

We'll see--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:14, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
:Anyone got a better answer? Like, an opinion? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:17, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
::I think it's better to have all forms on the infobox. Well, at least for every Pokémon with multiple forms excepting Arceus (because 17 forms is excesive LOL). '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 23:47, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
:::If you're able to combine the artworks... - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] 23:48, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Yes, I'll do it... but I'm not at home now xD '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 23:57, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

==Base stats?==
Do we know ANY of Shaymin sky forme's base stats yet? And can we list it's base HP the same as shaymins? Because in those pictures depicting the glacedia's flower, youcan see that the level 50 shaymin's HP stayed the same upon changing formes. [[User:SLE_aman|SLE_aman]]
:Best thing to do is wait. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

== Cry ==

Okay, the game's not out yet, and while the "tweet tweet tweet" would sound odd coming from Mr. Badass over here... do we have ''proof'' that it'll change? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:40, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
:Believe me. I think it will sound weird too, but I first thought Deoxys' cry was more aggressive before I heard it, but it was not changed anyways. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 05:37, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

== Sprites ==
In the platinum sprites, it shows shaymin's sky forme, shouldn't it also show shaymin's platinum land forme? We have bidoof's platinum sprite, so why not shaymin? (BTW, I mentioned bidoof because they appear in the same screenshot) [[User:SLE_aman|SLE_aman]]
:Well... actually I was thinking we should ''really'' be waiting for the Pt-animated sprites. They're supposed to be better than DP's, and the third version always gets .gifs anyway. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:19, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
::But, for this we may need the sky back sprite too. [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]]

User talk:Strong Intelligent

2008-08-06T07:36:06Z

Strong Intelligent: /* Please */

User talk:Strong Intelligent

2008-08-05T17:37:39Z

Strong Intelligent: /* Please */

User:Strong Intelligent/GenV

2008-08-05T12:44:24Z

Strong Intelligent: Yay?

==Gen V Starters==
*Grass: Firstly is Seetten, (Kitten and Seed) which at 16 becomes Fyowler, slightly bigger and leaf claws and finally Dandlyon, a flower Lion.

*Fire: First is Bwerm (Burn and worm) followed by Sninjk (Singe and Snake) Finally, Explasnaik. It's final form is also Fire/Poison.

*Water: First, Amphikick is a frog Pokemon, it evolves into Frashk, a Fighting/Water type. And lastly, so gastly: Botoad a steel/water pokemon which can switch steel into fighting with the one of three items you get from beating 6 gyms. (More below)

==If you beat 6 Gyms==
You get an item depending on which Starter you chose. If Seetten, you get the Pollen bomb, which allows it to grow types of berry on it. If Bwerm, you get the coal lump, which randomly boost one stat on it each battle. And finally, if Amphikick, you get the water blaster, you can change between its 3 types: Water, fighting and steel. You can also give one of the items to boost Grass, fire and water type moves respectively. (If you want, you can choose not to get the item and get TM 78, Speed missile.)

User:Strong Intelligent

2008-08-05T12:23:13Z

Strong Intelligent: Hee, hee, hee.

No, SI, No. said Homestar. I'm SI. Y'know, that dude with Asperges who is more of a contributor to the HRFwiki? I have a few made up Pokes, (The starters for gen V) and evos, which willcome soon. I've owned/own Red, Blue, Gold, Crystal, Ruby, LeafGreen and Pearl. Bow down to Empoleon juys!

*[[User:Strong Intelligent/GenV|Gen V Pokemon Ideas]]

User:Strong Intelligent

2008-08-05T12:11:38Z

Strong Intelligent: My stuffs.

Talk:Arceus (Pokémon)/Archive 1

2008-08-05T12:08:51Z

Strong Intelligent: /* Hmmm.... */

Um, {{u|TTEchidna}}, you put down that Arseus can become an ???-type Pokémon by holding a ??? Plate. Where'd you get that from?--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 21:35, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Man u have got to be kidding me Arceus catch rate should not be 3. I used my Action replay to get the item 4 arceus then i went and caought it on my 5th dusk ball. My friend caought it on him 1st ultra ball. Another friend i gave the item 2 caught it on his 2nd qiuck ball.
:Man, you have to be kidding me, you can't even spell the word "you" right. Arceus's catch rate is 3. If you'll notice, those balls multiply the catch rate formula by quite a bit, which greatly increases the chance to be caught. Plus, it's all on luck, I've had Magikarp break out of balls before. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 22:36, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

I added an alternative origin to Arceus's name that I found on: http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=286767.[[User:Draconium|Draconium]] 23:42, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

==Is there a point...==
Is there a point of having a table for each of the plates when it is attached to Arceus?
We could just have Arceus without a plate, and then have each title with an image and a sentence saying what type Arceus changes to.
For Example:

==Type effectiveness==
[[Image:493Arseus.png|thumb|right|Sprite for {{type2|Normal}} Arceus]]
===No plate equipped===
{{DP type effectiveness|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=200 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 0 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}
[[Image:Spr 4d 493-Fire.png|thumb|right|Sprite for {{type2|Fire}} Arceus]]
===With Flame Plate===
When the Flame Plate is attached to Arceus, it becomes a Fire type.

etc... [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 23:06, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

==Picture==
I have this picture:

[[Image:Arceus.PNG]]

I did not draw it. I want to use it on the page. It is much better than trying to stare at a tiny sprite. --[[User:Stinkoman|Stinkoman]] 15:08, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

:Better than a sprite for sure, but it'd be nice if we could find one without such bad compression artifacts. [[User:Invisible Shiny Bulbasaur|Invisible Shiny Bulbasaur]] 22:30, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
::I don't think we should really be using an unofficial image for the page. What would be nice is if somebody could get a nice, high-quality (as in NOT a photo of the monitor) screenshot of ARceus from PBR.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:22, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
:::You mean hack an Arceus and copy it into PBR?
[[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]][[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|Agent]] [[Gallade (Pokémon)|448]][[User talk:Optimus35|Talk]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&Pearl|DP]]''' [[Image:Fighting-attack.png|Fighting]] 11:46, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

== Sprites? ==

Should we include separate sprite templates for all of the forms, or just do it for one? I know that Unown and Castform, among others, would serve the same problem. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 22:10, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

== Art?! ==

I'd like to know the source of Arceus' picture. Mainly because it hasn't been revealed yet. TinaTheKirlia 02:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:It's a piece of fanart. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 02:47, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::That's what I thought, although there was an edit that said "Official Art" or something and it was rather confusing. TinaTheKirlia 16:29, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
I think we should replace that art with a sprite. It seems inaccurate... Mariocaper 19:19, 20 September 2007

Yeah, and we could enlarge the size of the sprite so it won't be that tiny anymore, right? [[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]]http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani475.gif '''[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35]][[User talk:Optimus35|Talk]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&Pearl|DP]]''' [[Image:Fighting-attack.png|Fighting]] 06:45, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
:Enlarged sprites look terrible. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 06:49, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
::Couldn't we get a PBR screenshot? And I mean a screenshot, not someone pointing their camera at a television? (We need that for Rosy and Sashay, too...)--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 07:13, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
::I can't, my FRAPS only works on full screen games like Maple Story...I think we could take the Arceus photo, enlarge it and sharpen it a little, then put it back on bulba. The only problem with this is that the sprite would be oversize...
:::I hope that you have permission to use that piece of fan art. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]][[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]] 21:27, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
::::I've got five PBR shots. They're all in my [[User:Optimus35/Sandbox|sandbox]]. Click on the links under 'Arceus'. Tell me which one looks best on my talk page and I'll upload it onto Bulbagarden Archives...[[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|Agent]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|4]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|4]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|8]][[User talk:Optimus35|δ]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&Pearl|DP]]''' | [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Optimus35&namespace=0&year=&month=-1 ☆][[Image:Ani282MS.gif]] 09:01, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Change the pic!
[[User:Crystallucario|Crystallucario]] 14:54, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
:The reason why we're not changing it is because it's nicely done fanart, and it's more easier to look at this instead of a sprite.
:Otherwise it'd be absolute hell for me to draw Arceus. Still is, but certainly more easier than looking at a sprite. :p [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 16:40, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
hmmm maybe ok whatever...
[[User:Crystallucario|CrystalLucario 12:23, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
::...except, do we have permission to use the image? The image page doesn't seem to claim it at all, so I'm going to go ahead and guess that we're doing something illegal or at least unethical here. Seriously, why can't we just use a PBR shot?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 00:58, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Since when was pokemon ever ethical? Think about it, the aim of the game is to run away from home at 10 years old (good parenting skills mom) and after having abuse a poor little starly to the brink of death by slashing it over and over again with false swipe you throw something at it, only adding to the poor creature's pain and torture only to trap it inside a small, cramped chamber for the rest of its unnatural life whilst using it to abuse other pokemon. But anyways I digress, the point is the piece of fanart looks nice, is accurate and fits in perfectly with all the official pokemon artwork. Hell when I first visited the page I thought it WAS a piece of official artwork. A PBR snapshot would not be at all as effective as the fanart. So no, we ain't havin a PBR shot. [[User:Wikid|Wikid]] 16:20, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

::::No one is questioning the ethics of the series, just in using someone else's work without their consent. Besides, the face is drawn wrong. There should be more lines running across it. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:28, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

== Metronome ==

My Mew used Judgement through Metronome. Should I include something like this under "Trivia":

Although Nintendo is attempting to keep Arceus secret, it is possible for Arceus's signature move, {{m|Judgment}}, to be used through {{m|Metronome}}, thus potentially revealing the existence of Arceus to otherwise unaware fans.

--[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|Contribs]][[Image:Ani480MS.gif]] 20:33, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

i could draw arceus if that would help. i like drawing pokémon. [[talonclawz]] new comer!!!!!!!!!! [[Image:Ani444MS.gif‎]]

== Shishigami? ==

Should any mention of the Forest Spirit Shishigami from Miyazaki Hayao's Mononoke-Hime be mentioned in the article? Arceus seems to have a resemblance to Shishigami. In addition, on the illegal hacked Pokémon Diamond (Telefang Power), Shishigami appears on the front, despite not having anything to do with the game (that's the way those criminals work), and then in the real Pokémon Diamond, Arceus was added. Does anyone else think that some trivia should be added about this? ~Kumori Satosuke
:Outside of the whole quadrupedal thing, I don't think there's anything else that's official to suggest a connection. For example, Arceus seems to be nothing outside of a creator, while shishigami is given dominion over life and death.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:27, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, I agree. There really isn't anything linking the two other than a vague (And I do mean VAGUE.) resemblance. --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 14:15, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

== ??? type sprite may prevent crash ==
Just a theory, but the programmers at Game Freak may have drawn and programmmed a ??? type Arceus to prevent game crashes. Anyone with a code patcher can figure out how to change a Pokémon's type. They might have figured that someone would tamper with Arceus's type, and if they changed it to a ??? type, and there was no sprite for it, the game would crash because it would try loading data that does not exist. That's my theory anyway. [[User:Fsilone|Fsilone]] 02:10, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:That's really logical. figure that by yourself? But I still don't know if we should put that in the article.[[Image:Ani471MS.gif]][[User:Pokemaniac102|'''Poke''''''maniac''''''102''']][[Image:AniEggMS.gif]] 02:17, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

::im a little iffy on the grammer, but other than that i think its a fantastic theory and should be in the trivia section. excellent. now all i need to do is figure out how to do it myself in my game with the Action Replay... [[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TALK]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]] 02:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

:::You can't - you need to edit the rom data - action replay only edits temporary and save data. Think so anyway. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|折り紙ガイ]] - [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|離す]][[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|貢献]]''' 15:37, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

I think I don't see anything grammatically wrong. I copied the words above and reworded it into sentences.[[Image:Ani471MS.gif]][[User:Pokemaniac102|'''Poke''''''maniac''''''102''']][[Image:AniEggMS.gif]] 02:34, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

:yea, im probibly wrong, im not joking when i say i failed english class......twice...with a 54..... [[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TALK]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]] 03:42, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

what the heck is shishigami? is it a pokémon?(someone out there?) [[-talonclawz]] new comer!!!!! [[Image:212MS.gif]] 1:06, 5 April 2008

No. Wait a minute if you don't know that Errr...how new are you to Pokémon?[[User:Crystallucario|'''''Crystal''''']] [[User talk:Crystallucario|'''''Lucario''''']] 17:43, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

A shishigami is a Japanese god of death. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 14:51, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

== {{type2|???}} Sprite ==

[[Image:Question-Type Arceus Before.jpg|thumb|left|Before]][[Image:Question-Type Arceus After.jpg|thumb|right|After]]How long has the sprite of ???-type Arceus been pulling that vanishing act? Basically, the only time you can see the sprite is when the white background on PNG-format images is still visible, as seen in the Before shot. Once the white backgrounds vanish, the rest of the sprite should still be there. However, on ???-type Arceus, the sprite vanishes along with the background, as seen in the After shot. Is there a way to fix this?

(The shots in question come from an area of my own user page, specifically a [[Template:User Favorite Move|favorite move tag]] programmed for a ???-type move and {{m|Curse}} with the Arceus sprite in question for a laugh. The [[Template:User 2000|2000-edits in a month tag]] above it is also shown for comparison.) --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 05:41, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

:Wow. That's weird that it just disappears! --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Sandbox|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 11:59, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I think I figured out the vanishing act. It's due to the filename. Many operating systems don't allow question marks in filenames, and it's probably due to those that caused the image to vanish. I went and uploaded an image to [[a:Image:Spr 4d 493-Unknown.png|Image:Spr 4d 493-Unknown.png]] on the archives, and that image works as it should! Every instance of the vanishing image has been changed to the one that doesn't vanish, so you won't be seeing vanishing ???-type Arceus again anytime soon. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:37, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== Pic ==

Okay, I remember {{u|Urutapu}} saying something about a screenshot of Arceus from PBR. Well, I got a Wii ''and'' PBR for Christmas. And I have *cough*cheated*cough* four Arceuses. All I need now is a good-quality emulator that can screenshot my Wii with. Any suggestions?
--{{u|Stinkoman}}

Somehow theres a way of putting a SCART socket into your PC and running it through that. My mate's computer can do that but i think it had the socket when he bought it. [[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]]

== Officially been revealed ==
Until this Pokemon has been officially revealed (by Nintendo or Coro Coro magazine) this page should be removed, because the only reason why there is proof of its existence is through a hacking or cheating device.
:WHAT! This page should be included on here. If it is in the Game, weather or not if it has been reaveled, it IS STILL IN THE GAME WITHOUT HAVING TO BE MADE{{Ani|493}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']]{{Ani|491}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|''' Is''']]{{Ani|426}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]{{Ani|473}}
::Yea, this page is about a Pokémon. In case you don't know (hopefully you do), this is a Pokémon encyclopedia. This page is like mandatory. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 02:12, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Exactly. We have pages for all Pokémon ''officially programmed into the games''. Would you come here before Deoxys was revealed and say "NUH UH THERE'S ONLY 201 IN HOENN DEOXYS IS A HAKKER ONLY POKEMAN." Arceus is official, they're just holding off on the official revelation. Besides... plenty of Pokémon from each generation were never revealed through CoroCoro or by Nintendo individually. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 07:07, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I may only be 10, but take it from me. Arceus is real. It is on pokemon.com's pokedex.[[User:DaPikanator56|DaPikanator56]] 18:47, 22 March 2008 (UTC){{u|DaPikanator56}}
:Well, actually, it's not on the PokéDex on [[Pokemon.com]], but yes, it is real. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 13:17, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
::An example of what TTE said would be the Porygons. '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]02:32 30 Mar 2008'''

Oh yeah! It and ummm... {{p|Shaymin}} I think aren't Theryguy.[[User:DaPikanator56|DaPikanator56]] 18:52, 30 March 2008 (UTC){{u|DaPikanator56}}
:Shaymin has been acknowledged by official Japanese sources. And to address the original point, we are not Wikipedia. Everyone knows that Arceus is real, so this page is a necessity. Hell, we have articles for a lot of glitch Pokémon so a real one definately passes. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

True...Oh, and by the way, in the summer I will shorten my visits here, but this place rules! It ain't demented like Chuckie Cheese's.
:) ^-^[[User:DaPikanator56|DaPikanator56]] 22:31, 3 April 2008 (UTC)DaPikanator56

==Picture==

I found this picture interesting, but low quality. [http://www.pokebeach.com/news/0507/arceus.jpg its on www.pokebeach.com] --[[User:Britannia's Blade|Britannia's Blade]] 21:25, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:Good find, but it's already linked from the article [[Arceus (Pokémon)#External links|right here]]. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 23:38, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

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I also just found this one [http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/arceus.png ****] Fan art of course but very serious looking, Lots more like it [http://www.arkeis.com/legendaries.htm here] what do you think? --[[User:Britannia's Blade|Britannia's Blade]] 18:47, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:I don't see how fanart is very notable to put up here.. >_> [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 19:06, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
::The one we have right now will do us until Arcy is revealed next year. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:37, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:::What about this one? - [http://www.pokebeach.com/news/0507/arceus2.jpg (1)] '''[[:User:Origamiguy|折り紙ガイ]] - [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|離す]][[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|貢献]]''' 15:45, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
::::-Gasp- Why not that one! Ooo, take it! TAKE IT!!! '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Optimatum</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''13:53 2 May 2008'''''
TTE, Arceus isn't going 2 be revealed 4 two years yet. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 14:53, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

==Arceus and Giratina==
Aren't Arceus and Giratina sort of opposites of each other because Arceus is God and Giratina is the devil sort of, I mean Arceus didn't create Giratina so that means they were the two entities before time started. [[User:Big Johnno|Pokémon Master]] 17:46 15 May 2008
:Maybe you're right, but i think that Giratina is part of the Dragon Trio. [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 23:37, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
::Giratina is the BOSS! It saved the two other Pokamon! Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''01:04 17 May 2008'''''
:Hold on, there's no reason to get angry. Why can't we just WAIT until Arceus is officially revealed? Isn't that BETTER than argueing? [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 23:37, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

In my eyes it would be

Dialga + Palkia = Rivals (Time VS Space)

Giratina + Arceus = Rivals (God VS Darkness?)

So yeah, regardless of the fact Giratina is part of the Dragon Trio.
(''Thinking about it, those four are exactly the same as my characters |: Lily = Controls Time. Darkness = Controls Space. Akito = Controls Death. Rose = Controls Life/Is a sort-of God. But anyway, my characters are irrelevant too this xD'') [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 14:37, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:So, Arceus is God/JesusHoly Spirit, and Giratina is Satan? O.O It's Da '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''06:03 26 May 2008'''''
::Arceus is Arceus. Giratina is Giratina. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:02, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Meh, that's the Atheist way of seeing it. Hey, wait, am I about to be stone for being anti-atheist? Damn. It's Da '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''07:13 26 May 2008'''''
::::I didn't say Giratina was Satan, i simply said he was...darkness. [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 02:05, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
My question is, how do you KNOW Giratina is bad, or if Arceus is even good? How do you KNOW Giratina wasn't created by Arceus? You don't. Besides, Neither ot them are from Christianity, and U know what? I'm a devout Christian and I don't care if Arceus wasn't based off of my God. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 14:56, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
:Does anybody want to see it this way, "WE SHOULD ALL JUST WAIT"? [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 22:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
::I don't think Giratina is evil. You don't have too be evil/whatever to control darkness/whatever Giratina controls. I do not think Giratina is evil! [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 22:22, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
:Is this text INVISIBLE? WE SHOULD ALL JUST WAIT! [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 00:28, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

== More sprites ==

Ok, so we have all the type sprites for Arceus and it's shiny sprite, but we don't have shiny forms for Arceus' other types. Could someone please tell me if it's possible to get those sprites and if so get them for us? [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 12:08, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:If i could, i would, but i can't, so i can't help you. I'm not even 100% sure Arceus's other-type sprites HAVE shiny versions of them :| [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 14:27, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
::They do. And a simple method is to color the sprites the right color. The white portion of the body is the only part which remains constant throughout the non-shiny forms. and when it becomes shiny, the rings are the same color as those of the non-shiny ones. The only thing that differs between non-shiny and shiny is the white portion, which turns yellow. It's Da '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''06:01 26 May 2008'''''
:So... could you do that for us as a favor? [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 22:02, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
::I might have those sprites on my computer somewhere. Want me to upload them? [[User:Yinyang1195|Yin]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|Yang]] 20:05, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I don't see why not other than you apperently not knowing where they are. And someone PLEASE get rid of that fan artwork, it's unofficial up here! [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 22:58, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Helloooooooooooooooo, its been 2 weeks. Are you going to respond? [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 19:00, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
::::HURRY UP ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 15:49, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

==When?==
How long before he's in a movie? Does anyone know?[[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 14:58, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
:Following the pattern, Arceus will be in next year's movie. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
::or it'll be a lake trio, or cresselia movie. They did tha with Jirachi.[[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 15:24, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Don't forget we've sill got Heatran and Raikou to go yet, along with regigigas, so I'd say we've got quite a while.[[User:Wikid|Wikid]] 16:30, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

:Regigigas is in the Giratina and Shaymin movie. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:33, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
::I really hope next years is about ether Arceus or Cresselia [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 16:38, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

== Metronome and Judgement ==

If a player knows nothing about Arceus, how would they know that Judgement is its signature attack? Even if it is used by a Pokémon using Metronome. So could Metronome really spoil the surprise? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 02:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Not really. ^^; Metronome can do ANYTHING. Even Explosion so...'''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''02:54 4 Jun 2008'''''
::Well, if they were like "Ooh, what learns that?!" and can't find anyone, they'll suspect it to be some crazy legendary not yet shown. And have lived under a rock since EVERYONE KNOWS OF ARCEUS. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Hmm, then Singapore must be under a rock. Only two people I know know what's Arceus, that includes me. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''03:12 4 Jun 2008'''''
::::Or this is nintendo's way of teasing us. kinda like,
Player:"What pokémon learns this?"
Nintendo:"Wait and see"
Player:"You suck."[[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 12:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I only ask because of this quote in the trivia:

"''Although Nintendo is attempting to keep Arceus secret, it is possible for Arceus's signature move, Judgment, to be used through Metronome, thus potentially revealing the existence of Arceus to otherwise unaware fans.''"

Plus, Nintendo ''has'' to know that the majority of their fanbase uses the internet. Every Pokémon website except the "official" ones have info on Arceus. A lot of them even before the games were released globally. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:57, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:The majority of the fanbase are kids who don't necessarily visit fansites. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 16:02, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::No ([[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 16:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC))
:::Yes. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 16:04, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::::No ([[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 16:05, 4 June 2008 (UTC))

:::::I would have to disagree with that statement. I believe that most fans may have been kids at the beginning when Pokémon first came out, but now have grown as the series has. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:18, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

A similar thing happened to me when I was playing PBR. I ordered my Togepi to use Metronome and out came Judgment. I wondered what Pokémon used this move until I checked this site and I found Arceus. I didn't even know about its existence AT ALL when Metronome was used that one year ago... {{ani|385}}[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 18:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

== Arceus's pattern in the anime? ==

I didn't get a second look (mainly because I deleted the episode from my DVR), but I heard in the episode "Journey to the Unknown!" that Saturn was holding a cube with Arceus's pattern on it... [[User:ShinyRayquaza|ShinyRayquaza]] 19:35, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

== Arceus + Sky Plate? ==

If you attach a Sky Plate to Arceus, wouldn't that make it become the first pure Flying-type Pokémon? [[User:Wynautluvr|Wynautluvr]] 16:53, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

:It is the first "permanent" pure Flying-type. The Porygon line can become Flying-types with their Conversion moves, and Kecleon can with its Color Change Ability. These Pokémon, however, revert back to Normal when the battle is over. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:56, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

::It's not permanent, in that you can change the plate and it loses the pure-flying status... '''[[:User:Origamiguy|Lord]] of [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Ori]][[Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|gami]]''' 15:16, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:::It's permanent in that it doesn't go away just because the battle ends. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:46, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
::::No its not. Its only a permanent flying type if its natural type (i.e. no plate) is flying. You might as well say its also the first permamnent ??? type since it can become that (potentially) too.[[User:Wikid|Wikid]] 16:43, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::If you never remove the plate, then it's permanent. Plus, you can't obtain a ???-type Arceus in-game in any normal fashion. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:45, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::: Says you. firstly, the word permanent implies that the typing can never be changed. If you unequip the plate Arceus goes back to normal therefore it's not permanent. At best I would say its semi-permament. Secondly, there might a ??? plate given out at an event or found somewhere in platinum like Glacidia's flower. ??? forme arceus might be the result when you enter the torn world with arceus. It might even be what Arceus looks like when it is a shadow pokemon as there might be a new game coming out to do with shadow pokemon and DPP might be the first generation where you can trade shadow pokemon over. Therefore if you can trade it as shadow poke between DP and platinum then there is a way to get an ??? forme Arceus in a normal fashion.[[User:Wikid|Wikid]] 17:21, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Fine. "Semi-permanent". ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:24, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

== The plates ==

The [[plates]] mite actually be man-made since there is understandable writing on them that the player can read in the games. The [[???-type]] mite not hve a plate but a location to activate that effect or a differently designed plate most probably.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:27, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
*One word: Unown. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 13:30, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

in the games , the plates r described to have fell from the sky for an unknown reason , most probably fell from [[Hall of Origin]] but how,who ,what, why and when?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:51, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:Unknown, maybe we'll see in platinum or movie 12. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 15:17, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

there is something fishy about arceus's shiny form . if that shiny situation also goes with arceus that means that there is more than one .--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 07:37, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
:This is just speculation, there is no prove. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 07:39, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
::There are 36 Arceus. Each of them are different from the others. 18 are regular, 18 wear jewelry to make them look shiny. END.'''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:10 22 Jun 2008'''''

what jewelery to make them shiny?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 11:31, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
:Forget it. I requet removal of this section and the two sections that follow it. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''13:38 28 Jun 2008'''''
::I support the idea that they fell from the Hall of origin. Like loose roof tiles lol [[User:Wikid|Wikid]] 16:45, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
the hall of origin had loose roof tiles i like that idea that should be in the hall of origin article *joke* but still cool [[User:Wikid|Wikid]]

== The ??? Plate ==

The ??? Plate exists, It is named mysterious plate by CodeJunkies, It may also be encountered in the underground as a Malfunction, people got this (like my brother) and attached it to ARCEUS, making the ??? type, no weaknesses are found on this type--[[User:M.vit|M.vit]] 00:10, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:Believe me, people code-spelunk like there's no tomorrow...there isn't such thing.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:10, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

can M.vit at least tell how did his brother encounter such a plate, and how does it function with other Pokémon?and what happens to a Pokémon who knows the move [[curse]]

can somebody edit this article . It says that Arceus creted the Pokémon Universe,''Dragon trio'' and lake trio. Till now the dragon trio isn't officially confirmed. so whether I or somebody else should change the Dragon trio to the time-space duo: Dialga and Palkia.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:56, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

well, seems that nobody is out of topic, BTW, i have seem to find this code in Code Junkies here it is
Mysterious Plate x999
94000130 fcff0000
b21c4d28 00000000
b0000004 00000000
00000890 03e70133
d2000000 00000000--[[User:M.vit|M.vit]] 16:55, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

:The plates all have different names on CodeJunkies which are the translated Japenese names. I believe the Mysterious Plate is actually the Mind Plate. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:13, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::Your right, it is the mind plate. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 16:45, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

== My Theory ==

I believe that the ??? mark plate will exsist tin the anime because I can almost 100% sure that there will be a movie on Arceus, I then think they will give away an Arceus that has the ??? Plate or It will be avaliable in Platnuim. ''I do not think that it is just so hackers can make the plate.'' - PokePal
:They'll give away Arceus in Japan next year, yes. But the presence of an item with it that is not programmed into DP is very, very unlikely. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:07, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
I thought the ??? plate was programmed in DP! Look here: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Unknown_type

:No plate exists. Hackers can manipulate Arceus to make it the ???-type, but I'm not sure how that would affect the game or the move Judgment. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:12, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Could it soon exist? Where is the proof that it doesnt also? I found this about it http://www.serebii.net/diamondpearl/arceus.shtml
They don't know if it does-PokePal

:The sprite and coloration exists. But no plate is associated with it. It is unlikely that an item will be created because that would prevent Arceus from being traded to Diamond or Pearl as no item exists in those games' coding. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:19, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Sheesh thanxs for ruining my life and theory lol Thanx maybe it will just be in the anime!PokePal

:There is still a possibility that ???-type Arceus will exist, there just won't be a plate or any other type of held item that will change Arceus to that type. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:29, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Wait it is a real Item, that is only for hackers? PokePal

I have realized that Arceus doesn't need the ???-Plate to become ???-type. If anybody wants to know how,this is how: it might change type according to locatiion not ot item held just like Burmey and Wormadam that location is most probably the Torn World.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 09:25, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

anybody wants to debate about my theory or at least comment with a lively one?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 11:12, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

:It is a possibility, but why would the ???-type Arceus be available in D/P but not the alternate formes of Giratina and Shaymin? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 13:25, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
::Because Sky Forme and Origin Forme aren't in D/P's programming.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 18:46, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

:::I know that, what I'm getting to is if ???-Arceus could only be obtained during Platinum, then why would its coding be in D/P and not the formes of the other two Pokémon? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 20:06, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

:It's also worth noting that this would make sense: On the ???-type's page, it notes that offensive moves of the ???-type have been hacked in, and do almost no damage even with a power of 255. That would mean that, if Arceus were made a ???-type while in the Torn World, his signature attack, Judgment, would be rendered completely useless. [[User:SixthFlyingMan|SixthFlyingMan]] 05:53, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

The move Judjement shifts type according to the plate held, effectiveness and effcts are also shifted, so Judjements effects are also changed when ???-type plate is held, if existent.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:53, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

==type change==

Keckleons ability color change changes its type according to the move done by the opponent so if ???-type arceus used judjement, will it change its type? can anyone experiment?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:21, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

:The fact that you can't get a ??? plate makes it difficult to say. I have no idea what would happen...♪♪[[User:ShinyPachirisu|Shiny]] [[User Talk:ShinyPachirisu|Pachirisu]] :) ♪♪ 13:23, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

::???-type moves have been hacked and have no effect. So Kecleon would probably be unaffected. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 13:39, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

== [[Pal Park]] ==

Will it really freeze the game when you put Arceus infront of the party and bla bla bla to the Pal Park?
[[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 03:48, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

== Now... ==

Isn't what I did so freaking cool? I mean, look at it. And the best thing is that it is totally dependent on the ''exact second'' that you save/access the page. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:32, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:A fine template, indeed. Would it be useful to use something like this to generate random examples in paragraphs?
:P.S.: What you did (a calculation based on a clock) is even a good idea for a new ability or move in the game that picks a random type. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 07:53, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

==Arceus in My Pokémon Ranch==
For a fact,someone in the German forum BisaBoard got Arceus as one of the daily Pokémon!This person was -like me- totally dumbfounded and opened that thread to know more about this phenomena.
I've asked some expert in the same message board if this would be really possible.To my surprise,he said that he checked the programme code and Arceus is really included!I think this MUST be put into the Trivia section.[[User:Uxie legend|Uxie legend]]

==Hmmm....==
Should we add that Arceus is the most hacked Pokemon? Every hacker I know owns a Arceus ''and'' all its plates. [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]]

User talk:Strong Intelligent

2008-08-05T12:04:45Z

Strong Intelligent: Hey juys!