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So I got a warning after trying to fix a post of mine after learning about unsigned comments which I still don't completly understand how to do is there any way I can fix this screw up.([[User:Strawhatroger|Strawhatroger]] ([[User talk:Strawhatroger|talk]]) 00:10, 7 March 2022 (UTC))
:If you forget to sign a comment and someone adds the unsigned template, you just have to accept it, learn from it, and make sure that you sign all future comments.[[User:Landfish7|''' Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 07:09, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

== New Party Template Terrible ==

The new party template for game characters sucks, the size increase I would have been able to adjust to in time but everything is ruined with the template showing three rows of two Pokemon in the party instead of the two rows of three that was used before it makes everything too confusing and eye straining as well as making it almost impossible to look at a party, especially one with a full team of six without constantly moving the screen up and down. I've been using this site for over fifteen years and was willing to over some issues even the stupid rename for Starter Pokemon, but with this i'm strongly consindering leaving the site for good until you get your priorities straight. [[User:Strawhatroger|Strawhatroger]] ([[User talk:Strawhatroger|talk]]) 21:43, 24 September 2025 (UTC)

Talk:List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number/Archive 2

2022-08-17T05:02:08Z

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== Archives ==
* [[Talk:List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
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== Gen VI ==
<s>Could Aurorus and Tyrantrum be added to the page, or will they be added after this mystery Pokémon is revealed tomorrow?</s> Scratch that. Aurorus, Tyrantrum, and Doublade need to be added. --[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 16:19, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

== 719, 720, 721 ==

I remember reading somewhere that someone discovered Pokemon past Zygarde. Should we add them? [[User:Liberty Bell|Liberty Bell]] ([[User talk:Liberty Bell|talk]]) 14:25, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
:We know about them, but we can't really confirm them since this time we neither can crack into the game to see all the data, nor they've been officialy revealed... at least for now. [[User:Uploader|Uploader]] ([[User talk:Uploader|talk]]) 14:39, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

== Cottonee's type change ==

Can anyone add Fairy type to Cottonee please, that's because it's evolution is also Fairy type. Thank you! [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ([[User talk:Cinday123|talk]]) 06:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

== False typing ==

Cottonee and Whimsicott are not fairy type. Why do people keep stating that when you cannot even find them in x or y? --[[User:Admantus|Admantus]] ([[User talk:Admantus|talk]]) 19:07, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
:You can't catch them yourself, but they are used by other Trainers in battle facilities, etc. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 20:19, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

::And according to Serebii, Cottonee line is now Fairy type, however, you can't catch them in Kalos and the only way to get them is to transfer Pokémon from Black, White, Black 2 or White 2 to X or Y, this is because it is not available to catch in Kalos however you have a chance to see them in battle facilities whereas Trainers used Whimsicott. [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ([[User talk:Cinday123|talk]]) 08:52, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, Serebii might be wrong, because they haven't even updated the sprites for the other unobtainable pokemon that appear post-game. I think that the types should be switched back to pure grass until pokemon bank comes out. --[[User:Admantus|Admantus]] ([[User talk:Admantus|talk]]) 20:56, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

:That has nothing to do with it. I mean, the information on Bulbapedia is always confirmed information. And any information that wasn't confirmed gets removed. So, the fact that Cottonee/Whimsicott being Grass/Fairy hasn't been removed or altered back to it's original information/typing means it's been confirmed. And like [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] and others have said, just because you can't catch it in the Kalos region games doesn't mean you can't still obtain it. And that means, the information for Cottonee & Whimsicott are programmed in the games. So, I say let it be. [[User:DarienLeonhart|DarienLeonhart]] ([[User talk:DarienLeonhart|talk]]) 21:52, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

== Order ==

Is it just me or are the pokemon listed for gen VI out of order? Not like broken, but I see like 114 right after 93 and etc. ★☆[[User:Togetic45|'''Toge''']][[User talk:Togetic45|'''tic''']][[Special:Contributions/Togetic45|'''45''']]☆★ 18:58, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
:It's not out of order. Those are the Pokemon's Kalos Dex numbers. The list is ordered by the National Dex numbers. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 19:05, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

== Secret Gen 6 Pokemon ==

What about those secret Pokemon from Gen 6? The ones after Zygarde? Shouldn't they be on here now? [[User:MegaNerd18|MegaNerd18]] ([[User talk:MegaNerd18|talk]]) 11:36, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

:I'm so sorry, the Pokémon Company haven't revealed these mythical Pokémon so let's just leave it for now until it's revealed so we don't know yet. [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 12:24, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Well I think the hacker who discovered the secret Pokemon is reliable because the Pokemon he found where: Hoopla, Volcanion, Daince, Fancy Vivillon, and the Mega Eon twins. Four out of six have revealed. If we do put in Hoopla and Volcaion when should put a little star (*) like on the list of Pokemon in the a area in the ranger game if you must release them after you catch them. --[[User:AbsolX|AbsolX]] ([[User talk:AbsolX|talk]]) 17:46, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

== Generation VI Sprites ==

Why there are no sprites for the new Pokémon introduced in X and Y? [[User:Dalton358|Dalton358]] ([[User talk:Dalton358|talk]]) 20:25, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
:Because we don't have them and we don't allow taking from other sites without permission. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 20:33, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
::I figured it would take longer to get them, because it's on a different system. I wonder how the other websites got their images. [[User:Dalton358|Dalton358]] ([[User talk:Dalton358|talk]]) 21:41, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
:::They have 3DS capture cards. Few Bulbapedia users do, and the only ones I've seen with them have been focusing on other things, like Trainer images. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:44, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

== Multiple Pokédeces in Generation VI ==
In the Generation VI, there are 3 Pokédeces: Kalos Central, Kalos Coastal and Kalos Mountain. For example:
# Chespin is Kalos Central #001
# Inkay is Kalos Coastal #010
# Goomy is Kalos Mountain #019
The list doesn't reflect it.

-[[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 08:27, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
:That's because this is the National Pokédex list. You want [[List of Pokémon by Kalos Pokédex number]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:32, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
::Of course I understand that. I am not stupid. I can read. What I am suggesting is to add a very small token in front of each Kalos number to indicate if it is Central, Coastal or Mountain, as these are a part of the Generation VI dex. If there is no indication of the sub-region, the column of the table of Generation VI will have limited meaning here. I'd suggest you either delete the whole column, or add the small indication of which sub-region the number belongs to. -[[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 04:39, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
:::This is still an issue. Scatterbug and Sligoo are still labeled with the same number in the Kalos Dex without distinction. Also, that column is labelled VIDex, which will be misleading with the release of ORAS. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 06:55, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
::::I concur with the main issue. Don't write completely undifferentiated numbers as if all you have to do is scroll through one Pokedex to find any given Pokemon; that's not at all the case. Do something like this:
{{rdexh|X|Y|dexname={{color2|000|List of Pokémon by Kalos Pokédex number|VIdex}}}}
{{rdex|001Ce|650|Chespin|1|Grass}}
{{rdex|002Ce|651|Quilladin|1|Grass}}
|}
::::I would also strongly suggest linking the regional 'dex abbreviations in the headers so people can click on them and immediately jump to those 'dexes. (If this were done, this would make "VIdex" less "misleading".) I linked "VIdex" above, and I'll demonstrate the same for the other generations below...
{{rdexh|red|green|dexname={{color2|000|List of Pokémon by Kanto Pokédex number|Kdex}}}}
|}
{{rdexh|gold|silver|dexname={{color2|000|List of Pokémon by Johto Pokédex number|Jdex}}}}
|}
{{rdexh|ruby|sapphire|dexname={{color2|000|List of Pokémon by Hoenn Pokédex number|Hdex}}}}
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{{rdexh|diamond|pearl|dexname={{color2|000|List of Pokémon by Sinnoh Pokédex number|Sdex}}}}
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{{rdexh|black|white|dexname={{color2|000|List of Pokémon by Unova Pokédex number|Udex}}}}
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::::For that matter, I'd also suggest linking "Ndex" similarly in [[Template:Rdexh|the header template]] so it links easily back here on the regional 'dex pages. ...And "Type" could also be linked, just because it's the sort of thing that ''should'' be clickable. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:47, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
:::::This is still an issue. Scatterbug and Sligoo are still labeled with the same number in the Kalos Dex without distinction. Also, Diancie needs its Kalos Dex number added (#151 in Central). --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 09:43, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
::::::As Abcboy said, this remains an issue. I have taken the liberty of creating [[User:Tiddlywinks/List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number|a user page]] that fixes the main issue in this discussion. The page also incorporates my idea for 'dex links in the headers, as well as renames the Kalos section's table header from "VIdex", a name that is not proper considering the existence of ORAS now.
::::::I hope someone on staff will take a cursory look at my user page and then copy the code onto this page (give or take the headers, perhaps), so that this issue may finally be solved. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:58, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
:::::::Bump... [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:29, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

== Color ==

I noticed that the color coordination is not in accord with the Kalos National Pokédex. Shouldn't each region get the appropriate color attributed to them? [[User:Mr. Guye|Mr. Guye]] ([[User talk:Mr. Guye|talk]]) 20:57, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

:Interesting observation. I had never noticed the color coding in the Kalos National Pokédex before, but it's there, and is to my knowledge the first time an official source has used color coding to denote regions.
:Bulbapedia currently uses specific colors for regions, but this particular page uses the colors of the first games taking place in those regions. Perhaps the colors for the tables on this page should be replaced with the region colors. Meanwhile, replacing the region colors themselves with the ones in X and Y is a discussion that should take place but might be too big for this page. I would recommend taking that up with a staff member. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 18:36, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

== The icon for diancie. ==
Now that Diancie has been released, you guys need to update this page to contain the sprite for diancie so it is no longer a grey question mark. [[User:Randomviewer896|Random Viewer]]

== Flabébé line ==

We've done it for Shaymin, Burmy and Rotom (as well as others) and the sprites are in the Archives, so can an admin (since I can't edit the page) add on the different mini sprites of them, or explain to me why they aren't used on it? Thanks.--[[User:Ditto51|Ditto51/Tom]] ([[User_Talk:Ditto51|My Talk Page]]) 20:47, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

== Save space ==

Welcome. I got the idea, in which a list of Pokemon replace the tiles. It would have saved a lot of space and reduced the site to a minimum. Imagine this:
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{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; background: #{{red color}};"
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytop|5px}}; background: #{{green color light}}" | Ndex: #001
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 | [[File:001Bulbasaur.png|100px]]
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 align=center | {{p|{{{3|Bulbasaur}}}}}
|-
| align=center style="{{roundybl|5px}} background:#{{Grass color}}" width=50% | [[Grass (type)|Grass]]
| align=center style="{{roundybr|5px}}; background:#{{Poison color}}" width=50% | [[Poison (type)|Poison]]
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{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; background: #{{red color}};"
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytop|5px}}; background: #{{green color light}}" | Ndex: #002
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 | [[File:002Ivysaur.png|100px]]
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 align=center | {{p|{{{3|Ivysaur}}}}}
|-
| align=center style="{{roundybl|5px}} background:#{{Grass color}}" width=50% | [[Grass (type)|Grass]]
| align=center style="{{roundybr|5px}}; background:#{{Poison color}}" width=50% | [[Poison (type)|Poison]]
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{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; background: #{{red color}};"
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytop|5px}}; background: #{{green color light}}" | Ndex: #003
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 | [[File:003Venusaur.png|100px]]
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 align=center | {{p|{{{3|Venusaur}}}}}
|-
| align=center style="{{roundybl|5px}} background:#{{Grass color}}" width=50% | [[Grass (type)|Grass]]
| align=center style="{{roundybr|5px}}; background:#{{Poison color}}" width=50% | [[Poison (type)|Poison]]
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{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; background: #{{red color}};"
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytop|5px}}; background: #{{green color light}}" | Ndex: #004
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 | [[File:004Charmander.png|100px]]
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 align=center | {{p|{{{3|Charmander}}}}}
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| colspan=2 align=center style="{{roundybottom|5px}} background:#{{Fire color}}" | [[Fire (type)|Fire]]
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{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; background: #{{red color}};"
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytop|5px}}; background: #{{green color light}}" | Ndex: #005
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 | [[File:005Charmeleon.png|100px]]
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 align=center | {{p|{{{3|Charmeleon}}}}}
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| colspan=2 align=center style="{{roundybottom|5px}} background:#{{Fire color}}" | [[Fire (type)|Fire]]
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{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; background: #{{red color}};"
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytop|5px}}; background: #{{green color light}}" | Ndex: #006
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 | [[File:006Charizard.png|100px]]
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 align=center | {{p|{{{3|Charizard}}}}}
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| align=center style="{{roundybl|5px}} background:#{{Fire color}}" width=50% | [[Fire (type)|Fire]]
| align=center style="{{roundybr|5px}}; background:#{{Flying color}}" width=50% | [[Flying (type)|Flying]]
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{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; background: #{{red color}};"
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytop|5px}}; background: #{{green color light}}" | Ndex: #007
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 | [[File:007Squirtle.png|100px]]
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 align=center | {{p|{{{3|Squirtle}}}}}
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| colspan=2 align=center style="{{roundybottom|5px}} background:#{{Water color}}" | [[Water (type)|Water]]
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{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; background: #{{red color}};"
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytop|5px}}; background: #{{green color light}}" | Ndex: #008
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 | [[File:008Wartortle.png|100px]]
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 align=center | {{p|{{{3|Wartortle}}}}}
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| colspan=2 align=center style="{{roundybottom|5px}} background:#{{Water color}}" | [[Water (type)|Water]]
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{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; background: #{{red color}};"
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytop|5px}}; background: #{{green color light}}" | Ndex: #009
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 | [[File:009Blastoise.png|100px]]
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 align=center | {{p|{{{3|Blastoise}}}}}
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| colspan=2 align=center style="{{roundybottom|5px}} background:#{{Water color}}" | [[Water (type)|Water]]
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As you can see images of Pokémon will be bigger and will take less than half the length now. --[[User:Dominikololo|Dominikololo]] ([[User talk:Dominikololo|talk]]) 09:47, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

:I don't necessarily agree with this idea. It looks better and shows off a Pokémon's appearance in full instead of just resorting to the icon, yes, but it's a lot more complex to work with incase there's an error. If you want to make it, you can do it as a personal user page under something like [[User:Dominikololo/Visual National Pokédex]] just to give us a full example. [[User:Superjustinbros.|Superjustinbros.]] ([[User talk:Superjustinbros.|talk]]) 03:30, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

== Generation III ==

Considering the fact the Johto Pokédex part of the Gen II Pokémon section was updated to the newer version from HG/SS, it's probably best we update Hoenn's under the Gen III Pokémon section to the one from ΩR/αS. [[User:Nintendocan|Nintendocan]] ([[User talk:Nintendocan|talk]]) 00:17, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

== Hoopa Unbound and Dex numbers ==

Hoopa's Unbound form needs to be added. Diancie, Hoopa and Volcanion's Dex numbers also. [[User:Asmod96|Asmod96]] ([[User talk:Asmod96|talk]]) 16:09, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

{{rdexh|X|Y|VI}}
{{rdex|150|718|Zygarde|2|Dragon|Ground}}
{{rdex|151|719|Diancie|2|Rock|Fairy}}
{{rdex|152|720|Hoopa|2|Psychic|Ghost}}
{{rdex|152|720U|Hoopa|2|Psychic|Dark}}
{{rdex|153|721|Volcanion|2|Fire|Water}}
|}

== Sun and Moon Legendary Mascots ==

Can someone who has access to editing this page add [http://www.serebii.net/news/2016/20-April-2016.shtml Solgaleo and Lunaala] to the Gen VII list? They have been revealed along with the Alola starters, but remained nameless in the video. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 23:16, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
:As you say, they are nameless. Until there is confirmation, we will not be assuming their names. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:26, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

== Charjabug and Vikavolt ==

Shouldn't Charjabug and Vikavolt be immediately after Grubbin, seeing as they're its evolutions? [[User:Pokemega32|Pokemega32]] ([[User talk:Pokemega32|talk]]) 13:55, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
:I noticed that too; I think whoever renamed/added them meant to move both Rockruff and Komala down, but somehow missed Rockruff... [[User:AmoongussForLife|AmoongussForLife]] ([[User talk:AmoongussForLife|talk]]) 14:14, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
::Just went to look at it and it seems SnorlaxMonster got it covered. Thanks for pointing it out. Too bad we don't know anything about their official numbering yet, but I guess they want to keep some things (how many 'Mons, for instance" a secret, so meh. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 17:32, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

== Hippowdon ==

If Unfezant and Frillish line are included twice for both genders, shouldn't Hippowdon be added as well? Their appearance is quite different as well.
Same goes for several other cases, if Hoopa and Meloetta have their forms added, why not Keldeo or Kami trio? Who decides what should appear and what shouldn't, and by what rule??? {{unsigned|KingisNitro}}
:The Hippos, it may be because official art (see [[Hippopotas (Pokémon)]], the big image at the top) AFAIK has never depicted the female forms, while for {{p|Frillish}} and {{p|Unfezant}} it has.
:The difference between Hoopa and Meoetta vs Keldeo and the Kami trio may be that the former change types when they change form. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:35, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
::Another contributing reason is that the game does not have gender-specific menu sprites for the Hippopotas family. Together with the lack of a type difference between genders, adding a seperate row for the other gender will not accomplish anything content-wise. [[User:Chenzw|Chenzw]] ([[User talk:Chenzw|talk]]) 16:49, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
:::Basculin is also listed twice, by the way. Vivillon, that also changes menu sprite depending on forms, is only included once (understandably because of how many form differences it has).
:::I mean I was mostly asking, so thanks for "justifying" it. Also, regarding whether it adds anything content-wise - except for the type changing forms, nothing really adds any content (Frillish, Hippos, Unfezant, Basculin, Vivillon), which is why I was puzzled. Didn't seem like there was any actual reason to include multiples. But I guess Sugimori arts are a good enough reason (I just couldn't figure it out). {{unsigned|KingisNitro}}

== Alolan ==

Someone needs to add the recently revealed Pokemon, which I assume would include Alolan Forms (as they all change type.) [[User:AmoongussForLife|AmoongussForLife]] ([[User talk:AmoongussForLife|talk]]) 17:32, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

:No, I think this page is better suited for the Pokémon with their natural Pokémon types to help prevent the page from getting too messy or confusing. This is why separate sub-pages are better suited to handling this such as the [[Mega Evolution]] page. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 00:37, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
::FWIW, the Alola Forms' types are no less natural than the forms we've always known. That said, we haven't yet decided whether we want the Alola Forms here or not. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:41, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
:::I would think that the Alolan Forms should be added, as the type changes, it appears the Pokémon don't switch between the two (an Ice/Fairy Ninetales would have Ice Vulpix), and multiple entries are added for Darmanitan, which is a similar case. I suppose the second point is mostly speculation at this point, though, but I don't think it would hurt the page overall. [[User:AmoongussForLife|AmoongussForLife]] ([[User talk:AmoongussForLife|talk]]) 01:06, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

== Wimpod's types ==

[[Wimpod]]'s types are Bug/Water, not Water/Bug. Someone should fix it. --[[User:RafaelGN|RafaelGN]] ([[User talk:RafaelGN|talk]]) 03:09, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
:Fixed. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:23, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

== Wishiwashi, Pyukumuku, and Morelull ==

This page still lists the japanese names even though the English names are revealed and confirmed and the pages for them use the English names. [[User:AztecCroc|AztecCroc]] ([[User talk:AztecCroc|talk]]) 14:16, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

== Rugarugan ==

Someone needs to add Rugarugan after Rockruff; it's been over a day. [[User:AmoongussForLife|AmoongussForLife]] ([[User talk:AmoongussForLife|talk]]) 17:19, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
:I will try see if I can. [[User:Awesomevenustoise101|Awesomevenustoise101]] ([[User talk:Awesomevenustoise101|talk]]) 17:22, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
::never mind I didn't know that the page is protected. [[User:Awesomevenustoise101|Awesomevenustoise101]] ([[User talk:Awesomevenustoise101|talk]]) 17:23, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
:::It hasn't been added because there is no page for it and it hasn't been officially revealed, it was leaked. The admins know what they are doing and it will be added when it gets added. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 17:25, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

== why is this page protected? ==

why is this page protected? I want to add Rugarugan after Rockruff but I can't. [[User:Awesomevenustoise101|Awesomevenustoise101]] ([[User talk:Awesomevenustoise101|talk]]) 17:25, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
:Most of the time it doesn't need to be changed, and when it does, we don't want people jumping the gun on rumors and stuff. Things like this we (as staff) update it when it's appropriate to do so. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:48, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

== Rowlet National dex number and menu sprites ==

On the [http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pokemon-bank/ Pokémon Bank page] on the official site, menu sprites for several Gen VII Pokémon have been shown, and Rowlet have been confirmed as #722. Here's direct links for the relevant images: [http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/media/uploads/sept_20_assets/screenshots/top/sept20_p12_01_en.png Top screen], [http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/media/uploads/sept_20_assets/screenshots/bottom/sept20_p12_01_en.png Bottom screen] - [[User:RHeegaard|RHeegaard]] ([[User talk:RHeegaard|talk]]) 00:21, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

:I'm assuming that the reason only Rowlet, Litten, Popplio, and Pikipek were uploaded is because they are the only ones with numbers (I am curious where you got official evidence of Litten, Popplio, and Pikipek's numbers though?), but would it not be possible to upload the others as "DrampaMS.png" and such so that they can be listed? It would make the table easier to read, I think. It's also what we do with artwork (whereas Pikachu's artwork is [[a:File:025Pikachu.png|File:025Pikachu.png]], Drampa's is [[a:File:Drampa.png|File:Drampa.png]]), so it's not like it goes against Bulbapedia's other efforts. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 03:05, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
::In large part, most places where menu sprites are used simply ''cannot'' accomodate filenames like DrampaMS (this page being an excellent example of such a place). The few places it might be usable aren't really worth it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:20, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

== Additions ==

Can we add: [[Steenee (Pokémon)]], [[Tsareena (Pokémon)]], [[Hakamo-o (Pokémon)]], [[Ribombee (Pokémon)]]? [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] ([[User talk:Kidburla|talk]]) 14:01, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
:They've already been added. --[[User:Carmenstar97|Carmen★]] ''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|(Talk |]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|contribs)]]'' 14:02, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
::Thanks. Seems they were added while I was typing the post. [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] ([[User talk:Kidburla|talk]]) 16:44, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
:::For future reference, if you just wait, someone will almost assuredly get to it soon enough. (I mean, if someone asked this every time there was a new reveal, this page would probably quickly end up bloated.) If it's 24 hours later, ''then'' it's late. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:50, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

== Oricorio ==

How come {{p|Castform}} has all of its forms on the list but {{p|Oricorio}} doesn't? --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 00:06, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
:Personally, it could be due to the criteria, but I cannot tell. So, here is a hopefully complete list of what Pokémon with multiple menu sprites appear and which do not.
:From the group that does appear: Unfezant (Gender difference), Frillish (Gender), Jellicent (Gender), Castform (Ability), Deoxys (Form), Burmy (Form), Wormadam (Form), Shellos (Form), Gastrodon (Form), Rotom (Form), Giratina (Item), Shaymin (Item), Basculin (Form), Darmanitan (Ability), Meloetta (Move), Hoopa (Item), All Alolan Pokémon (Form)
:From the group that does ''not'' appear: Pyroar (Gender difference), Meowstic (Gender), Ash-Greninja (Ability), Zygarde (Forme), Kyurem (Item), Cosplay Pikachu (Form), Pikachu (Unknown), Spiky-eared Pichu (Form), Unown (Form), Cherrim (Ability), Arceus (Item), Flabébé (Form), Floette (Form), Florges (Form), Deerling (Form), Sawsbuck (Form), Tornadus (Item), Thundurus (Item), Landorus (Item), Keldeo (Move), Vivillon (Form), Furfrou (Form), Aegislash (Ability), Oricorio (Item), Silvally (Item), Minior (Ability), All Mega/Primal Evolution Pokémon (Item/Move),
:...So, basically, I would guess that this might have been potentially overlooked. Who is to say? Granted, I do understand that Unown, Vivillon, Arceus, and Silvally likely are excluded for a good reason. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:19, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
::IMO, there definitely should be Oricorio with all its form, I thought that only forms with different type combination are added, but if there are also some gender differences... I even think there should be Mega Evolutions, if we will be adding forms. [[User:Asmod96|Asmod96]] ([[User talk:Asmod96|talk]]) 08:13, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
:::Most of these are probably missing because, as was mentioned in my "Hippowdon" question, they don't have official Sugimori art. Frillish has official art for both genders, while Hippowdon doesn't, hence it doesn't get two pictures. P weird reasonong, but I guess it works; Oricorio DOES have official art (in fact, most mentioned Pokemon do) and the forms change typing (good enough reason if you ask me), so I think someone should add them. Also, why can't we merge the forms into a single line (similarly to [[Pokémon with unique type combinations]] page)? {{unsigned|KingisNitro}}
::::The most important thing to remember, I think, is that this is a list of Pokémon species. It's not a list of minisprites. It's not even a list of Pokémon's types—those are included supplementarily. And it's ''certainly'' not a list of Ken Sugimori art.
::::On that note, I think the inclusion and exclusion of form differences should follow a less horrendously arbitrary standard. Either A) all forms with unique minisprites or types are included, or B) only one form per species is included, determined by a consistent criterion. If we go with A, I absolutely agree with KingisNitro that they should be merged into a single row, since it makes no sense to list the same species multiple times in a list of species. If we go B, I propose that the criterion be "whichever form is leftmost in Pokémon Bank's National Pokédex", since this is consistently a form that can be considered the most basic or "default".
::::So the question is, A or B? Should we put it up to a vote? [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 02:27, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
:::::I am going to mention that this technically is over six month old, but I will say that if anyone wants to put this up for a vote or needs to make a new section to discuss this can go ahead. Though, I do want to note that we now have issues with Pokémon like Togekiss who have two menu sprites just for which side they are facing. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:05, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
:This is still not "fixed". If castform's forms count then I really do think many of the others should be included as well. Maybe not all Unown or Vivillon forms since they're purely cosmetic. I do think forms that change type or stats should be included (like Necrozma or Zygarde forms...) -[[User:Jor1ss|Jor1ss]] ([[User talk:Jor1ss|talk]]) 17:04, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
::So, personally, I'm sorry that this keeps getting forgotten. On the other hand, even now, I can't muster enough of myself to "care" about it to check everything and do it up right... If someone wants to create a user page, we can look at it and see what's different and decide how much should be added. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:44, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
:::I'd love to help with adding them but maybe I can't because my account is only 1 day old? I'm also not sure what having a userpage would do for adding to the list? Isn't a userpage just a page for each user? I'm very new here so I don't really know what to do sorry. -[[User:Jor1ss|Jor1ss]] ([[User talk:Jor1ss|talk]]) 06:48, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

==Alola==

At the very top of the page, it still doesn't list Alola with the rest of the regions. [[User:AmoongussForLife|AmoongussForLife]] ([[User talk:AmoongussForLife|talk]]) 10:53, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

== Alolan Pokedex number of new Pokemon ==

The ADex numbers of Poipole, Naganadel, Stakataka, Blacephalon, and Zeraora should be changed to 261, 262, 392, 393, and 403 respectively. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:13, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
:I'm not sure if this kind of a "noisy post" or "bump" is allowed, but I need to somehow get someone to pay attention to this. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 02:00, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

== Gliscor sprite missing ==

the Gliscor Sprite is missing, can't edit to put it in [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 17:57, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

That's just an error on your end. [[User:AztecCroc|AztecCroc]] ([[User talk:AztecCroc|talk]]) 22:04, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

== Spin-off Pokedexes? ==

Sort of an off-topic but idk where else to ask; do we have Pokedexes for side/spin-off games (Rumble, Mystery Dungeon, Pinball, Ranger, Trozei/Shuffle...)? I think it would be neat to list the Pokemon with places to find them/other important information. If so - where, if not - why? If I made them on my page, could they be added to Bulba? (Where else can I ask this question?) ~[[User:KingisNitro|'''KingisNitro''']] ([[User talk:KingisNitro|talk]]) 01:04, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
:As seen in the List of Pokémon template below the articles, yes, we do have Pokédex listing of other/spin-off games. Unless there's another listing you want to suggest.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:32, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

== Meltan and Melmetal should not be under "generation VII" category ==

Officially, meltan and melmetal are under the region "unknown" and as such they should both be under that new category. furthermore, their pokedex numbers are 808 and 809 officially too.
{{unsigned|Supermassimo}}
:Well, I see what you mean but this list is sorted by generation. And those Pokémon were indeed introduced in the generation it says they were. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 14:08, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

::By that logic though, shouldn't Marill and Togepi be listed as generation 1 pokemon, Munchlax as a generation 3 pokemon and Magearna as a generation 6 pokemon? In fact, every single generation other than the first had a pokemon revealed in some medium before the release of the main games and this is especially true of mythicals. (Victini is in a similar situation to Meltan being listed just after the gen 4 mythicals and before the gen 5 starters even though it is considered gen 5 itself)

::In fact, the only difference is that all these other pokemon were typically revealed in movies or the anime whereas Meltan/Melmetal are playable in Pokemon Go/Let's Go. That said, these are still just spinoff games (which actually don't even have any other gen 7 pokemon in them other than alolan forms) and neither Meltan nor Melmetal are available in any mainline gen 7 games. Finally, Pokemon Go goes as far as to classify Meltan's region as "Unknown" whereas it could have easily been listed as Alola if it was intended to be a gen 7 pokemon. (And Magearna has nothing to do with either Kalos nor Alola but is still classified as "Gen 7" in the Sun/Moon pokedex.

::Sorry, for the long rant but my point is that strictly speaking the situation for Meltan/Melmetal is "Unknown" and ideally this should be reflected on the page to avoid speculating. However, if people insist on assigning a region/generation to it, I think it's far more likely to be "Galar"/"Gen 8" and not "Alola". Just my 2 cents. [[User:MCX|MCX]] ([[User talk:MCX|talk]]) 21:52, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
:::I would agree with your logic if not for your assumption that LGPE are not mainline games. They are core Pokémon games, which has been reiterated multiple times by Masuda and the others at GF. Since they’re catchable and playable in a mainline Gen VII game, they’re Gen VII Pokémon. That’s what separates them from cases like Bonsly, which I think would have been a much better example than Marill or Munchlax. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 12:47, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
::::I'm still not convinced that it's relevant nor that it's the case that LGPE are core titles. I'm not sure which interview you are referring to when saying that Masuda has stated that LGPE are core games but afaik Sword and Shield were first announced as the unnamed 2019 mainline Switch games in e3 2017. Then LGPE were announced at a later time and people were giving GF crap until they clarified that LGPE weren't the same as the previously announced 2019 titles. Correct me if I remember any of this incorrectly but if not, this would indicate that LGPE are something less than core games. If LGPE are core games that's the equivalent of GF announcing Sun/Moon after XY and then saying "oh btw, before SM we are gonna release gen 3 remakes, they aren't the same games as SM, we just thought we should announce gen 7 first." Yeah, LGPE are much closer gameplay-wise to the core games than, say, mystery dungeon or pokemon pinball but they are also not quite there.

::::Moreover, even if Masuda has said in an interview "LGPE are core titles", I'm still not sure if that is relevant in classifying Meltan's gen. LGPE don't have Crobat or Electivire or any gen 2-7 pokemon but they have Megas and Alolan forms and Meltan. This is just a weird situation where they used Meltan as a promo thing - not at all an indication that it's gen 7. They've even dropped mainline mechanics like breeding and abilities... Meltan being there doesn't conclusively prove anything. I doubt we will get any official statement like "Btw Meltan belongs in X gen" but we are still probably going to get a conclusive answer when they colour code Meltan along with either the gen 7 or gen 8 pokemon in some future title's pokedex. I'm just saying that until then we should keep its status as "Unknown" because that's what it currently is. [[User:MCX|MCX]] ([[User talk:MCX|talk]]) 23:49, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
:::::You can check the interview section in the LGPE guidebook if you don't believe that he explicitly has said that they're core titles. "These games aren't spinoffs. These are core Pokémon titles" is the exact quote. Since Meltan and Melmetal appeared in Gen 7 core titles, they're Gen 7 Pokemon. Simple enough. If for whatever reason they change that, then we'll change that too. But we don't really have any reason to believe otherwise. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 23:56, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

== Request to add Trivia section ==

I would like to see a Trivia section added to the bottom of the list, with the following single item:

* With the sole exception of {{p|Type: Null}}, all English Pokémon names in this list are also used for Italian and Spanish languages. The names for '''Type: Null''' in Italian and Spanish are, respectively, ''Tipo Zero'' and ''Código Cero''.

This is to avoid the need for any separate '''List of Italian Pokémon names''' and '''List of Spanish Pokémon names''' pages that would differ from this English page by ONLY ONE ROW. ''(Currently, those two page titles are redirects to the English list.)'' --[[User:SilSinn9801|''SilSinn'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 10:01, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

==Gen 8 Starters==
Grookey, Scorbunny, and Sobble would be National Pokedex 810, 813, and 816. Can these numbers please be added? [[User:Kimichael4317|Kimichael4317]] ([[User talk:Kimichael4317|talk]]) 05:38, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
:We do not actually ''know'' that so no, they won't be added. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 05:43, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
::We have no guarantee as to whether there would be another Victini-like scenario where a Mythical Pokémon would be enumerated right before the starters (as happened in Unova, twice). Hence why we cannot safely assume 810, 813, 816 – it could end up being 811, 814, 817. ‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''SilSinn'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') [[User talk:SilSinn9801|💬]] 07:52, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

== Zekrom has an extra space next to his name. ==

That is all. {{unsigned|MrKarato}}
:Fixed. And don't forget to sign your comments.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:01, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

== Handling forms + smaller suggestions ==

As far as I can tell there's no pattern to how forms are handled on this page. Some Pokémon with alternate forms or major gender differences have their forms present, others do not. Frankly, since it’s a list of Pokémon species according to their number, no Pokémon with form differences should be even included in a different line. Either the alternate forms should be removed entirely, only including the “base” form, or the lines should be combined like on List of Pokémon with unique type combinations. Personally, I'd prefer to have no forms displayed-- it would make the page a whole lot cleaner and easier to use-- but I can see the purpose of displaying forms, so I think that something like this would be best:

{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{firered color}}; background: #{{firered color}}"
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}; background: #{{leafgreen color light}}" | Kdex
! style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}" | Ndex
! style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}" | MS
! style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}" | Pokémon
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}; background: #{{leafgreen color light}}" colspan="2" | Type</noinclude>
|- style="background:#FFF"
| rowspan="2" style="font-family:monospace" | <nowiki>#</nowiki>026
| rowspan="2" style="font-family:monospace" | <nowiki>#</nowiki>026
| {{MSP|026|Raichu}}
| rowspan="2" | {{p|Raichu}}
| colspan="2" style="text-align:center; background:#{{electric color}}" | [[Electric (type)|Electric]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP|026A|Raichu}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{electric color}}" | [[Electric (type)|Electric]]
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{psychic color}}" | [[Psychic (type)|Psychic]]
|}

Again, I think that not displaying forms would be the best way to go, but either way, the current system of handling forms is unsatisfactory, both in the inconsistency between which forms are shown and which are not, and in the actual formatting of the forms.

Additionally, I have two smaller suggestions. First, I believe that it would be better to display the National Pokédex number before the regional Pokédex number, rather than vice versa, as this is a page on the National Pokédex, and that should take priority. Second, at the end of each section, there is no roundy template on the bottom, as you can see above, which makes the bottom of each section square and not as aesthetically pleasing. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 20:05, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

The problem with formes/forms is that there's many different kinds of forms. There's only visual forms (most male female differences/unown forms etc) and there's forms where the stats change (meowstic male/female for instance). There's forms where the typing changes (Wormadom/Necrozma's various forms). There's temporary forms that are only visible in battle (megas/greninja/cherubi). There's temporary forms that are changed by using an item or by depositing the pokemon or by whatever arbitrary reason (giratina/tornadus etc.). There's also regional forms, where a pokemon cannot change to the other form but is basically a different pokemon altogether (alolan and soon galarian forms). Maybe the list should just include all the base forms? And then there could be a seperate table listing all the additional forms for a pokemon?[[User:Jor1ss|Jor1ss]] ([[User talk:Jor1ss|talk]]) 12:40, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

== Information to readers ==

I want to modify the title section, but I have no permission. Could someone add the sentence “All English, Italian and Spanish Pokémon names are identical, but, depending on the language, they're pronounced differently.”? --[[User:TheICTLiker4|'''TheICT''']][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|'''Liker4''']] 18:19, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
:That's not relevant to the article at all.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:13, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
::Well, most european languages use the same names as the English version anyway, in fact only German and French are the the ones that consistently differ. Unless you count the languages that use a different alphabet, only Serbian, Lithuanian and some more perhaps are the only ones that does not use the standard English names instead transcribing it to their own orthography. So I see no really point in mentioned them all here. A simple line like <code>most other languages using the Latin alphabet also uses these names</code> would suffice in my opinion.
::I'm thinking maybe if it's okay with the staff around to make redirect for <code>List of Swedish/Icelandic/Spanish/Romanian/etc. Pokémon names</code> to this page.
::Otherwise, if you're interested, at least one Spanish and Italian name do actually differ from the English name, {{p|Type: Null}}. I've made list articles about which names I have found being used in other languages [[User:Raltseye/Template:Pokelist|here]].
::--[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 13:43, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

== Yamper and Impidimp ==

They're not on here for some reason? Can someone who can edit this page fix that?[[User:AztecCroc|AztecCroc]] ([[User talk:AztecCroc|talk]]) 13:33, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

== Aug 7 Trailer - New Pokémon ==

In the newest trailer, two new Pokémon (Obstagoon and Morpeko), as well as the Galarian forms of Weezing, Zigzagoon, and Linoone were revealed. I don't see them listed on this page yet, those Impidimp, which has still not been officially revealed is. [[User:CMP|CMP]] ([[User talk:CMP|talk]]) 18:46, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

== Missing ==

Currently, Galarian Meowth is missing from this list. [[User:MarioMiner|MarioMiner]] ([[User talk:MarioMiner|talk]]) 03:00, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

== Dex Shortcuts ==

Can we get the dex shortcuts removed or redirected correctly? They're just redirecting to the top of this page. [[User:Joe kik as|Joe kik as]] ([[User talk:Joe kik as|talk]]) 17:33, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
:That's the point of the shortcuts. They're just redirects of this article, and they're there for reference.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
::But why is it at the top of the page if it's just redirecting to the top. If anything it should redirect to different pages corresponding to those links. [[User:Joe kik as|Joe kik as]] ([[User talk:Joe kik as|talk]]) 16:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
:::I already said why, they're there for reference. To let users know which shortcut to type out in the search bar if they wanted to find this article easier (since typing out the entire title would be a hassle). The other dex listings also have shortcuts that lead to their respective articles.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:55, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

== Ndex as the first column ==

I think the Ndex number should probably be the first column. This is the main subject of this list.

The Ndex is currently the 2nd column, which seems like a secondary position. (even though in the case of the first 151 Pokémon, the numbers are the same) --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 10:14, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
:{{template|rdex}} is convenient. I don't think it's that big an issue to make another template just for this. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:23, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
::I'm with Daniel here. This is a list of Pokemon by National Pokedex number. Surely that should be the primary focus. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 18:19, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
:::I could do the job of creating a new template and editing this page if this idea is accepted. It could be simply a new template based on {{template|rdex}} with reverse parameters. A possible name could be {{template|nrdex}} (since {{template|ndex}} is taken) .--[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 00:50, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
::::The header is the only thing here that would need to be changed if this were to be done. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 01:05, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::Aside from that, we may also want to reverse the order of the numbers for each Pokémon in [[List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number]], to make the wikitext match the resulting page. I can do this if needed. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 02:38, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

== Pokémon with different forms not present in the list ==

I don't understand the criteria for Pokémon with different forms, by the type of them:

Gender differences : We do not include the forms of Indeedee, Pyroar and Meowstic, But we allow Unfezant, Frillish and Jellycent?

Different permanent forms but with the same typing: Lycanrock and Toxtricity. But it allows other permanent forms, e.g. Shellos, Gastrodont and Basculin.

Different Forms and different types: Kyurem and Necruzma. But allows Castform, Rotom, Melloeta, Hoopa, Shaymin and Oricorio.

Different Battle forms but same types: Wishiwashi, Cherrim, Landorus, Thundurus, Tornadus, Kyurem, Keldeo, Greninja, Zygarde and Minior are not included. But Deoxis and Gyratina are on the list.

No applicable to the above criteria: Unown, Arceus, Deerling, Sawsbuck, Vivillon, The Flabébé Family and Furfrou. But we do have Burmy and Wormadam and Urshifu. (I understand that the Pokémon in this las criteria have a lot of forms, and that the reason of not their including is for space and order in the page)

Can some one please explain me the criteria for allowing the different forms selection?

--Neos 10:19, April 16 2020 (UTC)
:Yeah, it does seem rather arbitrary to me.

:I think I've mentioned this above but this page is a list of Pokemon by number first and foremost. Including forms at all, imo, muddles the numbering up, at least for me. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 13:48, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

::I think we should take out the unnecessary forms --[[User:Neos|Neos]] ([[User talk:Neos|talk]]) 00:36, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

== You forgot NDex# of Galarian Slowking ==

Force Fire: You added NDex numbers for Galarian forms of Slowbro & the Legendary Birds (even if no menu sprites exist for them yet), but you forgot Galarian Slowking:
<pre>{{rdex||???|Slowking|1|???}}</pre>
Given this page is protected, I cannot change the page myself; could you please provisionally change that line to:
<pre>{{rdex||199G|Slowking|1|???}}</pre>
‐⁠‑''[[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn]]'' ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') [[User talk:SilSinn9801|💬]] 17:01, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
:Fixed --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 01:21, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
::This page needs to be edited as Galarian Slowking's type was confirmed to be Poison/Psychic like Galarian Slowbro was. [[User:Kangaflora|Kangaflora]] ([[User talk:Kangaflora|talk]]) 19:01, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

== 891-893 ==

Pokemon Home's Pokedex , after this morning's patch, seems to confirm that Kubfu, Urshifu, and Zarude are numbers 891, 892, and 893 respectively. That is all. Sorry if this text is really big for some reason.{{unsigned|Zigzagoon97}}

== (Understandable) Style Inconsistencies ==

To be consistent with the style of the page before the Crown Tundra was released, only Calyrex's base form should be present, as neither Kyurem (which, admittedly, does not change type) nor Necrozma (which does change type, and thus should be treated exactly the same way as Calyrex) have their fusion forms present on this list. Alternatively, including Necrozma's forms, and possibly Kyurem's forms, would solve this issue. [[User:MarioMiner|MarioMiner]] ([[User talk:MarioMiner|talk]]) 22:58, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
:Another style inconsistency - in the Generation IV section of the page, Heatran, Regigigas, Cresselia, Phione, Darkrai, Shaymin, and Arceus, the Gen IV Pokémon without Sinnoh Pokédex numbers, have their portions of the "Sdex" column blank. However, Meltan, Melmetal, Kubfu, Urshifu, Zarude, Regieleki, Regidrago, Glastrier, Spectrier, and Calyrex, all Pokémon that do not appear in their respective generations' regional Pokédexes, have "#---" in their regional Pokédex (Adex for Meltan and Melmetal, Gdex for the rest) columns. [[User:MarioMiner|MarioMiner]] ([[User talk:MarioMiner|talk]]) 00:06, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

== Zygarde's Forms ==
Zygard seems to be the only Pokémon currently missing alternate forms.
[[User:RomajiMiltonAmulo|RomajiMiltonAmulo]] ([[User talk:RomajiMiltonAmulo|talk]]) 01:45, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

== Legends: Arceus Pokémon ==

Are the Pokémon and Regional Forms that were shown in the new [[Pokémon Legends: Arceus]] trailer going to be added now or when the game releases? -[[User:Ratboy Jr.|Ratboy Jr.]] ([[User talk:Ratboy Jr.|talk]]) 22:40, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

== Mega Aerodactyl needs to be added. ==

A couple Megas were forgotten to be added. Could you please scout through and add them? {{unsigned|Necrozma800}}
:They are left out for a reason, Mega Evolutions are not completely new species, they are a transformed state of the same base species.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:06, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

== Legends arceus pokemon ==

We need numbers for Basculegion, wyrdeer, Kleavor, we need these pokemon added Overqwil, Enamorus, Ursaluna, and Sneasler. Dex numbers (national) are : 899 is Wyrdeer 900 is Kleavor 901 is Ursaluna 902 is Basculegion 903 is Sneasler 904 is Overqwil, 905 is Enamorus, so yeah [[User:ItsRobloxHere|ItsRobloxHere]] ([[User talk:ItsRobloxHere|talk]]) 00:24, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

== H.Goodra's typing ==

it should be Steel/Dragon, not Dragon/Steel.
[[User:Anzasquiddles|Anzasquiddles]] ([[User talk:Anzasquiddles|talk]]) 05:56, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

== Hisuian Braviary's MSP, and Origin Formes for Dialga and Palkia ==

Well, the second point is more of a question. I see there's plenty of contention on the matter of form-inclusion, but Giratina's Origin Forme is on the list so I thought I'd mention it.
[[User:Pichugetic|Pichugetic]] ([[User talk:Pichugetic|talk]]) 01:06, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

: Oh, just noticed: also Hisuian Avalugg. [[User:Pichugetic|Pichugetic]] ([[User talk:Pichugetic|talk]]) 07:31, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

== Unfezant, Frillish and Jellycent: only one entry per Pokémon? ==

For the majority of Pokémon, only the male appearence is shown. However, it does not apply for Shellos, Gastrodon, Unfezant, Frillish and Jellycent. Shellos and Gastrodon are region-based in several (all?) games, so displaying both appearances is justified, but it does not apply for Unfezant, Frillish and Jellycent. So is there something special about those 3 Pokémon that grants 2 entries for each of them in the list? [[User:Y2110|Y2110]] ([[User talk:Y2110|talk]]) 11:42, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

EDIT: Oh, it has already been discussed on this page. My bad

== 3D Sprites ==
[[File:001MS8.png|thumb|right|68px|SwSh Bulbasaur (68px)]]
[[File:902MS.png|thumb|right|68px|PLA Basculegion (68px)]]
[[File:HOME001.png|thumb|right|60px|HOME Bulbasaur (60px)]]
[[File:HOME902.png|thumb|right|60px|HOME Basculegion (60px)]]

Why have the 2D sprites been changed to the 3D Pokemon Home ones? The 3D sprites mesh horribly with the tables and lists, take up too much space, and have too much color and detail making it hard to focus on anything but the sprites themselves. I can understand wanting to upgrade but sometimes less is more especially for someone who has sensitive eyes or ADHD. There could at least be an option to select whether you what to view 2D or 3D sprites.[[User:Strawhatroger|Strawhatroger]] ([[User talk:Strawhatroger|talk]]) 16:57, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
:It's a necessity. We already had too much inconsistency between sprites from SwSh, LGPE, PLA and older ones, soon we'll get another ones for SV which would make it even worse. Fortunately HOME sprite are very consistent and exist for alternate forms. They don't take more space because previously we already had big 68px squares.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 17:34, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

The HOME sprites pop out way too much and are too bright hurting my eyes making it very difficult to do thing like look at lists without straining my eyes.[[User:Strawhatroger|Strawhatroger]] ([[User talk:Strawhatroger|talk]]) 17:55, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

::I've added some Bulbasaur and Basculegion image examples at the top of this discussion now.
::As TRG was saying, the list with 2D sprites was using inconsistent styles (including 2D sprites from SwSh like that Bulbasaur, and 3D face portraits from PLA like that Basculegion). We may have 2D sprites for most of the currently available Pokémon, but not all of them.
::Since you mentioned the size, let me point out that those 2D sprites typically were 68px images with white space around the Pokémon (a lot of white space in my opinion). I've changed them to those 3D images with 60px size, so they are occupying less space than before.
::For instance, it seems there are at least 1,000 lines on these tables, so the page should be approximately 8,000 pixels shorter than before with the current 3D sprites.
::Although to be fair, the image size can be changed in the template so it could become smaller or larger if needed. If anyone thinks that the 2D sprites with a lot of whitespace around looked good, it's also possible to add whitespace around the 3D images (without needing to edit the images). --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 18:43, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

:::Did someone reverted the 3D sprites? now they are back to the 2D ones.
:::I really support the idea of using the HOME menu sprites for this page and for what I have seen in the latest SV trailers the classic Menu minisprites are now gone. So by using as the source of sprites HOME we will be sure that's there will be a unify menu art style. --[[User:Neos|Neos]] ([[User talk:Neos|talk]]) 21:57, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

::::Yes. The change was reverted back to the 2D sprites, pending further discussion. Sorry for the trouble. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 23:01, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Finally! Someone who actually listens to other people's opinions and uses common sense. I've looked at any trailer and screenshot of SV I could find and if anything it looks like 2D sprites will be returning, and if it really comes down to it perhaps we can just use the official artwork since it's easier on the eyes.[[User:Strawhatroger|Strawhatroger]] ([[User talk:Strawhatroger|talk]]) 05:02, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

==Urshifu and Female Pokémon==

Since the two forms of Urshifu shared a menusprite, the Home art for Rapid Strike style Urshifu will have to be added manually globally. I don't think there is another Pokémon with this issue. Female Pokémon such as Unfezant, Jellicent, etc. will also have to be added manually. And since they are included, the female forms of Meowstic, Indeedee, Basculegion and Pyroar should have their own entries as well. Or none of them should. Just make it consistent. Necrozma is also missing its forms, even though they change type. '''[[User:Oneofthosedf|Oneofthosedf]] [[User talk:Oneofthosedf|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Oneofthosedf|(contribs)]]''' 18:00, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
:I'm wondering if we should change female forms manually or the HOME images could be renamed. I'm fine with both, but I'd like to know what to do.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 19:02, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

::Yeah, I'm adding the Urshifu sprite to move pages, but I'll wait with Indeedee and Meowstic, as a simple redirect would solve those issues as opposed to Urshifu. '''[[User:Oneofthosedf|Oneofthosedf]] [[User talk:Oneofthosedf|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Oneofthosedf|(contribs)]]''' 19:46, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

== Forms of Pokémon that should be added into this list ==

I know that I spoke about this more that two years ago, but there are a lot of inconsistencies in the list regarding which Pokémon forms get to be in this list and which don't, I get that Gigantamax and Mega's aren't allowed in this list, but there are Pokémon that have very different forms ranging from Gender, alternative and even different learnset's, and I think that they should be added into the list as well because there are pokemon that share the exact situation has the ones that I'm going to propose that are already on the list.

Candidates for inclusion on the list based in multiple criteria:

By gender extreme differences:

Indeedee Female

Pyroar Female

Meowstic Female

Basculegion Female

(Pokémon subject to this criteria that are already present on the list with Male and Female forms are: Unfezant, Frillish and Jellycent)

Pokemon with special forms that can't be changed:

Lycanrock Midnight form

Lycanrock Dusk form

Toxtricity Low Key form

Sandy Cloak Wormadam

Trash Cloak Wormadam

(Pokémon subject to this criteria that have different forms already present on the list are: Shellos, Gastrodont, Basculin and Urshifu)

Diferent Fusions with different Types:

White Kyurem

Black Kyurem

Dusk Mane Necrozma

Dawn Wings Necrozma

Ultra Necrozma

Pokemon with the capability of change between forms upon different scenarios:

Wishiwashi School form

Cherrim Sunshine form

Landorus Therian form

Thundurus Therian form

Tornadus Therian form

Enamorus Therian form

Keldeo Resolute form

Zygarde 10% form

Zygarde 100% form

(Pokémon subject to this criteria that have different forms already present on the list are: Castform, Rotom, Melloeta, Hoopa, Shaymin, Oricorio, Deoxis, Dialga, Palkia and Gyratina)

Please consider adding the proposed forms listed above, or consider delisting the Pokémon forms that are already present in parentheses at the end of each category, since if the Pokémons requested to be added are not added personally I don't see a justified reason to keep the extra forms that are present at the moment.

--[[User:Neos|Neos]] ([[User talk:Neos|talk]]) 18:23, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Also this should be more easy now that we have the Pokémon HOME models for this list --[[User:Neos|Neos]] ([[User talk:Neos|talk]]) 18:28, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

:Being as long as it is, I think adding on to the list uneccessarily unless its a non-battle form change that changes the user's type. That being said, there are some forms missing that can be added, and I agree that some of the listings, like the gender differences, are superfluous. - [[User:Chosen|Chosen]] ([[User talk:Chosen|Talk]]) 01:11, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

==Eternal Floette==

Not included on this page (should be) and all it had was the menusprite. It will need a redirect. Probably [[File:AZ's Floette.png|90px]] will do. '''[[User:Oneofthosedf|Oneofthosedf]] [[User talk:Oneofthosedf|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Oneofthosedf|(contribs)]]''' 19:46, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Talk:List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number/Archive 2

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== Archives ==
* [[Talk:List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
__TOC__
== Gen VI ==
<s>Could Aurorus and Tyrantrum be added to the page, or will they be added after this mystery Pokémon is revealed tomorrow?</s> Scratch that. Aurorus, Tyrantrum, and Doublade need to be added. --[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 16:19, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

== 719, 720, 721 ==

I remember reading somewhere that someone discovered Pokemon past Zygarde. Should we add them? [[User:Liberty Bell|Liberty Bell]] ([[User talk:Liberty Bell|talk]]) 14:25, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
:We know about them, but we can't really confirm them since this time we neither can crack into the game to see all the data, nor they've been officialy revealed... at least for now. [[User:Uploader|Uploader]] ([[User talk:Uploader|talk]]) 14:39, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

== Cottonee's type change ==

Can anyone add Fairy type to Cottonee please, that's because it's evolution is also Fairy type. Thank you! [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ([[User talk:Cinday123|talk]]) 06:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

== False typing ==

Cottonee and Whimsicott are not fairy type. Why do people keep stating that when you cannot even find them in x or y? --[[User:Admantus|Admantus]] ([[User talk:Admantus|talk]]) 19:07, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
:You can't catch them yourself, but they are used by other Trainers in battle facilities, etc. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 20:19, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

::And according to Serebii, Cottonee line is now Fairy type, however, you can't catch them in Kalos and the only way to get them is to transfer Pokémon from Black, White, Black 2 or White 2 to X or Y, this is because it is not available to catch in Kalos however you have a chance to see them in battle facilities whereas Trainers used Whimsicott. [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ([[User talk:Cinday123|talk]]) 08:52, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, Serebii might be wrong, because they haven't even updated the sprites for the other unobtainable pokemon that appear post-game. I think that the types should be switched back to pure grass until pokemon bank comes out. --[[User:Admantus|Admantus]] ([[User talk:Admantus|talk]]) 20:56, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

:That has nothing to do with it. I mean, the information on Bulbapedia is always confirmed information. And any information that wasn't confirmed gets removed. So, the fact that Cottonee/Whimsicott being Grass/Fairy hasn't been removed or altered back to it's original information/typing means it's been confirmed. And like [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] and others have said, just because you can't catch it in the Kalos region games doesn't mean you can't still obtain it. And that means, the information for Cottonee & Whimsicott are programmed in the games. So, I say let it be. [[User:DarienLeonhart|DarienLeonhart]] ([[User talk:DarienLeonhart|talk]]) 21:52, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

== Order ==

Is it just me or are the pokemon listed for gen VI out of order? Not like broken, but I see like 114 right after 93 and etc. ★☆[[User:Togetic45|'''Toge''']][[User talk:Togetic45|'''tic''']][[Special:Contributions/Togetic45|'''45''']]☆★ 18:58, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
:It's not out of order. Those are the Pokemon's Kalos Dex numbers. The list is ordered by the National Dex numbers. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 19:05, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

== Secret Gen 6 Pokemon ==

What about those secret Pokemon from Gen 6? The ones after Zygarde? Shouldn't they be on here now? [[User:MegaNerd18|MegaNerd18]] ([[User talk:MegaNerd18|talk]]) 11:36, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

:I'm so sorry, the Pokémon Company haven't revealed these mythical Pokémon so let's just leave it for now until it's revealed so we don't know yet. [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 12:24, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Well I think the hacker who discovered the secret Pokemon is reliable because the Pokemon he found where: Hoopla, Volcanion, Daince, Fancy Vivillon, and the Mega Eon twins. Four out of six have revealed. If we do put in Hoopla and Volcaion when should put a little star (*) like on the list of Pokemon in the a area in the ranger game if you must release them after you catch them. --[[User:AbsolX|AbsolX]] ([[User talk:AbsolX|talk]]) 17:46, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

== Generation VI Sprites ==

Why there are no sprites for the new Pokémon introduced in X and Y? [[User:Dalton358|Dalton358]] ([[User talk:Dalton358|talk]]) 20:25, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
:Because we don't have them and we don't allow taking from other sites without permission. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 20:33, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
::I figured it would take longer to get them, because it's on a different system. I wonder how the other websites got their images. [[User:Dalton358|Dalton358]] ([[User talk:Dalton358|talk]]) 21:41, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
:::They have 3DS capture cards. Few Bulbapedia users do, and the only ones I've seen with them have been focusing on other things, like Trainer images. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:44, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

== Multiple Pokédeces in Generation VI ==
In the Generation VI, there are 3 Pokédeces: Kalos Central, Kalos Coastal and Kalos Mountain. For example:
# Chespin is Kalos Central #001
# Inkay is Kalos Coastal #010
# Goomy is Kalos Mountain #019
The list doesn't reflect it.

-[[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 08:27, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
:That's because this is the National Pokédex list. You want [[List of Pokémon by Kalos Pokédex number]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:32, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
::Of course I understand that. I am not stupid. I can read. What I am suggesting is to add a very small token in front of each Kalos number to indicate if it is Central, Coastal or Mountain, as these are a part of the Generation VI dex. If there is no indication of the sub-region, the column of the table of Generation VI will have limited meaning here. I'd suggest you either delete the whole column, or add the small indication of which sub-region the number belongs to. -[[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 04:39, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
:::This is still an issue. Scatterbug and Sligoo are still labeled with the same number in the Kalos Dex without distinction. Also, that column is labelled VIDex, which will be misleading with the release of ORAS. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 06:55, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
::::I concur with the main issue. Don't write completely undifferentiated numbers as if all you have to do is scroll through one Pokedex to find any given Pokemon; that's not at all the case. Do something like this:
{{rdexh|X|Y|dexname={{color2|000|List of Pokémon by Kalos Pokédex number|VIdex}}}}
{{rdex|001Ce|650|Chespin|1|Grass}}
{{rdex|002Ce|651|Quilladin|1|Grass}}
|}
::::I would also strongly suggest linking the regional 'dex abbreviations in the headers so people can click on them and immediately jump to those 'dexes. (If this were done, this would make "VIdex" less "misleading".) I linked "VIdex" above, and I'll demonstrate the same for the other generations below...
{{rdexh|red|green|dexname={{color2|000|List of Pokémon by Kanto Pokédex number|Kdex}}}}
|}
{{rdexh|gold|silver|dexname={{color2|000|List of Pokémon by Johto Pokédex number|Jdex}}}}
|}
{{rdexh|ruby|sapphire|dexname={{color2|000|List of Pokémon by Hoenn Pokédex number|Hdex}}}}
|}
{{rdexh|diamond|pearl|dexname={{color2|000|List of Pokémon by Sinnoh Pokédex number|Sdex}}}}
|}
{{rdexh|black|white|dexname={{color2|000|List of Pokémon by Unova Pokédex number|Udex}}}}
|}
::::For that matter, I'd also suggest linking "Ndex" similarly in [[Template:Rdexh|the header template]] so it links easily back here on the regional 'dex pages. ...And "Type" could also be linked, just because it's the sort of thing that ''should'' be clickable. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:47, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
:::::This is still an issue. Scatterbug and Sligoo are still labeled with the same number in the Kalos Dex without distinction. Also, Diancie needs its Kalos Dex number added (#151 in Central). --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 09:43, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
::::::As Abcboy said, this remains an issue. I have taken the liberty of creating [[User:Tiddlywinks/List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number|a user page]] that fixes the main issue in this discussion. The page also incorporates my idea for 'dex links in the headers, as well as renames the Kalos section's table header from "VIdex", a name that is not proper considering the existence of ORAS now.
::::::I hope someone on staff will take a cursory look at my user page and then copy the code onto this page (give or take the headers, perhaps), so that this issue may finally be solved. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:58, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
:::::::Bump... [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:29, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

== Color ==

I noticed that the color coordination is not in accord with the Kalos National Pokédex. Shouldn't each region get the appropriate color attributed to them? [[User:Mr. Guye|Mr. Guye]] ([[User talk:Mr. Guye|talk]]) 20:57, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

:Interesting observation. I had never noticed the color coding in the Kalos National Pokédex before, but it's there, and is to my knowledge the first time an official source has used color coding to denote regions.
:Bulbapedia currently uses specific colors for regions, but this particular page uses the colors of the first games taking place in those regions. Perhaps the colors for the tables on this page should be replaced with the region colors. Meanwhile, replacing the region colors themselves with the ones in X and Y is a discussion that should take place but might be too big for this page. I would recommend taking that up with a staff member. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 18:36, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

== The icon for diancie. ==
Now that Diancie has been released, you guys need to update this page to contain the sprite for diancie so it is no longer a grey question mark. [[User:Randomviewer896|Random Viewer]]

== Flabébé line ==

We've done it for Shaymin, Burmy and Rotom (as well as others) and the sprites are in the Archives, so can an admin (since I can't edit the page) add on the different mini sprites of them, or explain to me why they aren't used on it? Thanks.--[[User:Ditto51|Ditto51/Tom]] ([[User_Talk:Ditto51|My Talk Page]]) 20:47, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

== Save space ==

Welcome. I got the idea, in which a list of Pokemon replace the tiles. It would have saved a lot of space and reduced the site to a minimum. Imagine this:
{|
|
{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; background: #{{red color}};"
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytop|5px}}; background: #{{green color light}}" | Ndex: #001
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 | [[File:001Bulbasaur.png|100px]]
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 align=center | {{p|{{{3|Bulbasaur}}}}}
|-
| align=center style="{{roundybl|5px}} background:#{{Grass color}}" width=50% | [[Grass (type)|Grass]]
| align=center style="{{roundybr|5px}}; background:#{{Poison color}}" width=50% | [[Poison (type)|Poison]]
|}
|
{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; background: #{{red color}};"
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytop|5px}}; background: #{{green color light}}" | Ndex: #002
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 | [[File:002Ivysaur.png|100px]]
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 align=center | {{p|{{{3|Ivysaur}}}}}
|-
| align=center style="{{roundybl|5px}} background:#{{Grass color}}" width=50% | [[Grass (type)|Grass]]
| align=center style="{{roundybr|5px}}; background:#{{Poison color}}" width=50% | [[Poison (type)|Poison]]
|}
|
{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; background: #{{red color}};"
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytop|5px}}; background: #{{green color light}}" | Ndex: #003
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 | [[File:003Venusaur.png|100px]]
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 align=center | {{p|{{{3|Venusaur}}}}}
|-
| align=center style="{{roundybl|5px}} background:#{{Grass color}}" width=50% | [[Grass (type)|Grass]]
| align=center style="{{roundybr|5px}}; background:#{{Poison color}}" width=50% | [[Poison (type)|Poison]]
|}
|
{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; background: #{{red color}};"
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytop|5px}}; background: #{{green color light}}" | Ndex: #004
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 | [[File:004Charmander.png|100px]]
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 align=center | {{p|{{{3|Charmander}}}}}
|-
| colspan=2 align=center style="{{roundybottom|5px}} background:#{{Fire color}}" | [[Fire (type)|Fire]]
|}
|
{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; background: #{{red color}};"
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytop|5px}}; background: #{{green color light}}" | Ndex: #005
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 | [[File:005Charmeleon.png|100px]]
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 align=center | {{p|{{{3|Charmeleon}}}}}
|-
| colspan=2 align=center style="{{roundybottom|5px}} background:#{{Fire color}}" | [[Fire (type)|Fire]]
|}
|
{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; background: #{{red color}};"
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytop|5px}}; background: #{{green color light}}" | Ndex: #006
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 | [[File:006Charizard.png|100px]]
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 align=center | {{p|{{{3|Charizard}}}}}
|-
| align=center style="{{roundybl|5px}} background:#{{Fire color}}" width=50% | [[Fire (type)|Fire]]
| align=center style="{{roundybr|5px}}; background:#{{Flying color}}" width=50% | [[Flying (type)|Flying]]
|}
|
{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; background: #{{red color}};"
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytop|5px}}; background: #{{green color light}}" | Ndex: #007
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 | [[File:007Squirtle.png|100px]]
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 align=center | {{p|{{{3|Squirtle}}}}}
|-
| colspan=2 align=center style="{{roundybottom|5px}} background:#{{Water color}}" | [[Water (type)|Water]]
|}
|
{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; background: #{{red color}};"
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytop|5px}}; background: #{{green color light}}" | Ndex: #008
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 | [[File:008Wartortle.png|100px]]
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 align=center | {{p|{{{3|Wartortle}}}}}
|-
| colspan=2 align=center style="{{roundybottom|5px}} background:#{{Water color}}" | [[Water (type)|Water]]
|}
|
{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; background: #{{red color}};"
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytop|5px}}; background: #{{green color light}}" | Ndex: #009
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 | [[File:009Blastoise.png|100px]]
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 align=center | {{p|{{{3|Blastoise}}}}}
|-
| colspan=2 align=center style="{{roundybottom|5px}} background:#{{Water color}}" | [[Water (type)|Water]]
|}
|}

As you can see images of Pokémon will be bigger and will take less than half the length now. --[[User:Dominikololo|Dominikololo]] ([[User talk:Dominikololo|talk]]) 09:47, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

:I don't necessarily agree with this idea. It looks better and shows off a Pokémon's appearance in full instead of just resorting to the icon, yes, but it's a lot more complex to work with incase there's an error. If you want to make it, you can do it as a personal user page under something like [[User:Dominikololo/Visual National Pokédex]] just to give us a full example. [[User:Superjustinbros.|Superjustinbros.]] ([[User talk:Superjustinbros.|talk]]) 03:30, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

== Generation III ==

Considering the fact the Johto Pokédex part of the Gen II Pokémon section was updated to the newer version from HG/SS, it's probably best we update Hoenn's under the Gen III Pokémon section to the one from ΩR/αS. [[User:Nintendocan|Nintendocan]] ([[User talk:Nintendocan|talk]]) 00:17, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

== Hoopa Unbound and Dex numbers ==

Hoopa's Unbound form needs to be added. Diancie, Hoopa and Volcanion's Dex numbers also. [[User:Asmod96|Asmod96]] ([[User talk:Asmod96|talk]]) 16:09, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

{{rdexh|X|Y|VI}}
{{rdex|150|718|Zygarde|2|Dragon|Ground}}
{{rdex|151|719|Diancie|2|Rock|Fairy}}
{{rdex|152|720|Hoopa|2|Psychic|Ghost}}
{{rdex|152|720U|Hoopa|2|Psychic|Dark}}
{{rdex|153|721|Volcanion|2|Fire|Water}}
|}

== Sun and Moon Legendary Mascots ==

Can someone who has access to editing this page add [http://www.serebii.net/news/2016/20-April-2016.shtml Solgaleo and Lunaala] to the Gen VII list? They have been revealed along with the Alola starters, but remained nameless in the video. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 23:16, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
:As you say, they are nameless. Until there is confirmation, we will not be assuming their names. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:26, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

== Charjabug and Vikavolt ==

Shouldn't Charjabug and Vikavolt be immediately after Grubbin, seeing as they're its evolutions? [[User:Pokemega32|Pokemega32]] ([[User talk:Pokemega32|talk]]) 13:55, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
:I noticed that too; I think whoever renamed/added them meant to move both Rockruff and Komala down, but somehow missed Rockruff... [[User:AmoongussForLife|AmoongussForLife]] ([[User talk:AmoongussForLife|talk]]) 14:14, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
::Just went to look at it and it seems SnorlaxMonster got it covered. Thanks for pointing it out. Too bad we don't know anything about their official numbering yet, but I guess they want to keep some things (how many 'Mons, for instance" a secret, so meh. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 17:32, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

== Hippowdon ==

If Unfezant and Frillish line are included twice for both genders, shouldn't Hippowdon be added as well? Their appearance is quite different as well.
Same goes for several other cases, if Hoopa and Meloetta have their forms added, why not Keldeo or Kami trio? Who decides what should appear and what shouldn't, and by what rule??? {{unsigned|KingisNitro}}
:The Hippos, it may be because official art (see [[Hippopotas (Pokémon)]], the big image at the top) AFAIK has never depicted the female forms, while for {{p|Frillish}} and {{p|Unfezant}} it has.
:The difference between Hoopa and Meoetta vs Keldeo and the Kami trio may be that the former change types when they change form. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:35, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
::Another contributing reason is that the game does not have gender-specific menu sprites for the Hippopotas family. Together with the lack of a type difference between genders, adding a seperate row for the other gender will not accomplish anything content-wise. [[User:Chenzw|Chenzw]] ([[User talk:Chenzw|talk]]) 16:49, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
:::Basculin is also listed twice, by the way. Vivillon, that also changes menu sprite depending on forms, is only included once (understandably because of how many form differences it has).
:::I mean I was mostly asking, so thanks for "justifying" it. Also, regarding whether it adds anything content-wise - except for the type changing forms, nothing really adds any content (Frillish, Hippos, Unfezant, Basculin, Vivillon), which is why I was puzzled. Didn't seem like there was any actual reason to include multiples. But I guess Sugimori arts are a good enough reason (I just couldn't figure it out). {{unsigned|KingisNitro}}

== Alolan ==

Someone needs to add the recently revealed Pokemon, which I assume would include Alolan Forms (as they all change type.) [[User:AmoongussForLife|AmoongussForLife]] ([[User talk:AmoongussForLife|talk]]) 17:32, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

:No, I think this page is better suited for the Pokémon with their natural Pokémon types to help prevent the page from getting too messy or confusing. This is why separate sub-pages are better suited to handling this such as the [[Mega Evolution]] page. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 00:37, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
::FWIW, the Alola Forms' types are no less natural than the forms we've always known. That said, we haven't yet decided whether we want the Alola Forms here or not. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:41, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
:::I would think that the Alolan Forms should be added, as the type changes, it appears the Pokémon don't switch between the two (an Ice/Fairy Ninetales would have Ice Vulpix), and multiple entries are added for Darmanitan, which is a similar case. I suppose the second point is mostly speculation at this point, though, but I don't think it would hurt the page overall. [[User:AmoongussForLife|AmoongussForLife]] ([[User talk:AmoongussForLife|talk]]) 01:06, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

== Wimpod's types ==

[[Wimpod]]'s types are Bug/Water, not Water/Bug. Someone should fix it. --[[User:RafaelGN|RafaelGN]] ([[User talk:RafaelGN|talk]]) 03:09, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
:Fixed. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:23, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

== Wishiwashi, Pyukumuku, and Morelull ==

This page still lists the japanese names even though the English names are revealed and confirmed and the pages for them use the English names. [[User:AztecCroc|AztecCroc]] ([[User talk:AztecCroc|talk]]) 14:16, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

== Rugarugan ==

Someone needs to add Rugarugan after Rockruff; it's been over a day. [[User:AmoongussForLife|AmoongussForLife]] ([[User talk:AmoongussForLife|talk]]) 17:19, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
:I will try see if I can. [[User:Awesomevenustoise101|Awesomevenustoise101]] ([[User talk:Awesomevenustoise101|talk]]) 17:22, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
::never mind I didn't know that the page is protected. [[User:Awesomevenustoise101|Awesomevenustoise101]] ([[User talk:Awesomevenustoise101|talk]]) 17:23, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
:::It hasn't been added because there is no page for it and it hasn't been officially revealed, it was leaked. The admins know what they are doing and it will be added when it gets added. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 17:25, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

== why is this page protected? ==

why is this page protected? I want to add Rugarugan after Rockruff but I can't. [[User:Awesomevenustoise101|Awesomevenustoise101]] ([[User talk:Awesomevenustoise101|talk]]) 17:25, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
:Most of the time it doesn't need to be changed, and when it does, we don't want people jumping the gun on rumors and stuff. Things like this we (as staff) update it when it's appropriate to do so. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:48, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

== Rowlet National dex number and menu sprites ==

On the [http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pokemon-bank/ Pokémon Bank page] on the official site, menu sprites for several Gen VII Pokémon have been shown, and Rowlet have been confirmed as #722. Here's direct links for the relevant images: [http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/media/uploads/sept_20_assets/screenshots/top/sept20_p12_01_en.png Top screen], [http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/media/uploads/sept_20_assets/screenshots/bottom/sept20_p12_01_en.png Bottom screen] - [[User:RHeegaard|RHeegaard]] ([[User talk:RHeegaard|talk]]) 00:21, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

:I'm assuming that the reason only Rowlet, Litten, Popplio, and Pikipek were uploaded is because they are the only ones with numbers (I am curious where you got official evidence of Litten, Popplio, and Pikipek's numbers though?), but would it not be possible to upload the others as "DrampaMS.png" and such so that they can be listed? It would make the table easier to read, I think. It's also what we do with artwork (whereas Pikachu's artwork is [[a:File:025Pikachu.png|File:025Pikachu.png]], Drampa's is [[a:File:Drampa.png|File:Drampa.png]]), so it's not like it goes against Bulbapedia's other efforts. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 03:05, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
::In large part, most places where menu sprites are used simply ''cannot'' accomodate filenames like DrampaMS (this page being an excellent example of such a place). The few places it might be usable aren't really worth it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:20, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

== Additions ==

Can we add: [[Steenee (Pokémon)]], [[Tsareena (Pokémon)]], [[Hakamo-o (Pokémon)]], [[Ribombee (Pokémon)]]? [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] ([[User talk:Kidburla|talk]]) 14:01, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
:They've already been added. --[[User:Carmenstar97|Carmen★]] ''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|(Talk |]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|contribs)]]'' 14:02, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
::Thanks. Seems they were added while I was typing the post. [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] ([[User talk:Kidburla|talk]]) 16:44, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
:::For future reference, if you just wait, someone will almost assuredly get to it soon enough. (I mean, if someone asked this every time there was a new reveal, this page would probably quickly end up bloated.) If it's 24 hours later, ''then'' it's late. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:50, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

== Oricorio ==

How come {{p|Castform}} has all of its forms on the list but {{p|Oricorio}} doesn't? --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 00:06, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
:Personally, it could be due to the criteria, but I cannot tell. So, here is a hopefully complete list of what Pokémon with multiple menu sprites appear and which do not.
:From the group that does appear: Unfezant (Gender difference), Frillish (Gender), Jellicent (Gender), Castform (Ability), Deoxys (Form), Burmy (Form), Wormadam (Form), Shellos (Form), Gastrodon (Form), Rotom (Form), Giratina (Item), Shaymin (Item), Basculin (Form), Darmanitan (Ability), Meloetta (Move), Hoopa (Item), All Alolan Pokémon (Form)
:From the group that does ''not'' appear: Pyroar (Gender difference), Meowstic (Gender), Ash-Greninja (Ability), Zygarde (Forme), Kyurem (Item), Cosplay Pikachu (Form), Pikachu (Unknown), Spiky-eared Pichu (Form), Unown (Form), Cherrim (Ability), Arceus (Item), Flabébé (Form), Floette (Form), Florges (Form), Deerling (Form), Sawsbuck (Form), Tornadus (Item), Thundurus (Item), Landorus (Item), Keldeo (Move), Vivillon (Form), Furfrou (Form), Aegislash (Ability), Oricorio (Item), Silvally (Item), Minior (Ability), All Mega/Primal Evolution Pokémon (Item/Move),
:...So, basically, I would guess that this might have been potentially overlooked. Who is to say? Granted, I do understand that Unown, Vivillon, Arceus, and Silvally likely are excluded for a good reason. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:19, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
::IMO, there definitely should be Oricorio with all its form, I thought that only forms with different type combination are added, but if there are also some gender differences... I even think there should be Mega Evolutions, if we will be adding forms. [[User:Asmod96|Asmod96]] ([[User talk:Asmod96|talk]]) 08:13, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
:::Most of these are probably missing because, as was mentioned in my "Hippowdon" question, they don't have official Sugimori art. Frillish has official art for both genders, while Hippowdon doesn't, hence it doesn't get two pictures. P weird reasonong, but I guess it works; Oricorio DOES have official art (in fact, most mentioned Pokemon do) and the forms change typing (good enough reason if you ask me), so I think someone should add them. Also, why can't we merge the forms into a single line (similarly to [[Pokémon with unique type combinations]] page)? {{unsigned|KingisNitro}}
::::The most important thing to remember, I think, is that this is a list of Pokémon species. It's not a list of minisprites. It's not even a list of Pokémon's types—those are included supplementarily. And it's ''certainly'' not a list of Ken Sugimori art.
::::On that note, I think the inclusion and exclusion of form differences should follow a less horrendously arbitrary standard. Either A) all forms with unique minisprites or types are included, or B) only one form per species is included, determined by a consistent criterion. If we go with A, I absolutely agree with KingisNitro that they should be merged into a single row, since it makes no sense to list the same species multiple times in a list of species. If we go B, I propose that the criterion be "whichever form is leftmost in Pokémon Bank's National Pokédex", since this is consistently a form that can be considered the most basic or "default".
::::So the question is, A or B? Should we put it up to a vote? [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 02:27, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
:::::I am going to mention that this technically is over six month old, but I will say that if anyone wants to put this up for a vote or needs to make a new section to discuss this can go ahead. Though, I do want to note that we now have issues with Pokémon like Togekiss who have two menu sprites just for which side they are facing. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:05, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
:This is still not "fixed". If castform's forms count then I really do think many of the others should be included as well. Maybe not all Unown or Vivillon forms since they're purely cosmetic. I do think forms that change type or stats should be included (like Necrozma or Zygarde forms...) -[[User:Jor1ss|Jor1ss]] ([[User talk:Jor1ss|talk]]) 17:04, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
::So, personally, I'm sorry that this keeps getting forgotten. On the other hand, even now, I can't muster enough of myself to "care" about it to check everything and do it up right... If someone wants to create a user page, we can look at it and see what's different and decide how much should be added. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:44, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
:::I'd love to help with adding them but maybe I can't because my account is only 1 day old? I'm also not sure what having a userpage would do for adding to the list? Isn't a userpage just a page for each user? I'm very new here so I don't really know what to do sorry. -[[User:Jor1ss|Jor1ss]] ([[User talk:Jor1ss|talk]]) 06:48, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

==Alola==

At the very top of the page, it still doesn't list Alola with the rest of the regions. [[User:AmoongussForLife|AmoongussForLife]] ([[User talk:AmoongussForLife|talk]]) 10:53, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

== Alolan Pokedex number of new Pokemon ==

The ADex numbers of Poipole, Naganadel, Stakataka, Blacephalon, and Zeraora should be changed to 261, 262, 392, 393, and 403 respectively. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:13, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
:I'm not sure if this kind of a "noisy post" or "bump" is allowed, but I need to somehow get someone to pay attention to this. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 02:00, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

== Gliscor sprite missing ==

the Gliscor Sprite is missing, can't edit to put it in [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 17:57, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

That's just an error on your end. [[User:AztecCroc|AztecCroc]] ([[User talk:AztecCroc|talk]]) 22:04, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

== Spin-off Pokedexes? ==

Sort of an off-topic but idk where else to ask; do we have Pokedexes for side/spin-off games (Rumble, Mystery Dungeon, Pinball, Ranger, Trozei/Shuffle...)? I think it would be neat to list the Pokemon with places to find them/other important information. If so - where, if not - why? If I made them on my page, could they be added to Bulba? (Where else can I ask this question?) ~[[User:KingisNitro|'''KingisNitro''']] ([[User talk:KingisNitro|talk]]) 01:04, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
:As seen in the List of Pokémon template below the articles, yes, we do have Pokédex listing of other/spin-off games. Unless there's another listing you want to suggest.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:32, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

== Meltan and Melmetal should not be under "generation VII" category ==

Officially, meltan and melmetal are under the region "unknown" and as such they should both be under that new category. furthermore, their pokedex numbers are 808 and 809 officially too.
{{unsigned|Supermassimo}}
:Well, I see what you mean but this list is sorted by generation. And those Pokémon were indeed introduced in the generation it says they were. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 14:08, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

::By that logic though, shouldn't Marill and Togepi be listed as generation 1 pokemon, Munchlax as a generation 3 pokemon and Magearna as a generation 6 pokemon? In fact, every single generation other than the first had a pokemon revealed in some medium before the release of the main games and this is especially true of mythicals. (Victini is in a similar situation to Meltan being listed just after the gen 4 mythicals and before the gen 5 starters even though it is considered gen 5 itself)

::In fact, the only difference is that all these other pokemon were typically revealed in movies or the anime whereas Meltan/Melmetal are playable in Pokemon Go/Let's Go. That said, these are still just spinoff games (which actually don't even have any other gen 7 pokemon in them other than alolan forms) and neither Meltan nor Melmetal are available in any mainline gen 7 games. Finally, Pokemon Go goes as far as to classify Meltan's region as "Unknown" whereas it could have easily been listed as Alola if it was intended to be a gen 7 pokemon. (And Magearna has nothing to do with either Kalos nor Alola but is still classified as "Gen 7" in the Sun/Moon pokedex.

::Sorry, for the long rant but my point is that strictly speaking the situation for Meltan/Melmetal is "Unknown" and ideally this should be reflected on the page to avoid speculating. However, if people insist on assigning a region/generation to it, I think it's far more likely to be "Galar"/"Gen 8" and not "Alola". Just my 2 cents. [[User:MCX|MCX]] ([[User talk:MCX|talk]]) 21:52, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
:::I would agree with your logic if not for your assumption that LGPE are not mainline games. They are core Pokémon games, which has been reiterated multiple times by Masuda and the others at GF. Since they’re catchable and playable in a mainline Gen VII game, they’re Gen VII Pokémon. That’s what separates them from cases like Bonsly, which I think would have been a much better example than Marill or Munchlax. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 12:47, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
::::I'm still not convinced that it's relevant nor that it's the case that LGPE are core titles. I'm not sure which interview you are referring to when saying that Masuda has stated that LGPE are core games but afaik Sword and Shield were first announced as the unnamed 2019 mainline Switch games in e3 2017. Then LGPE were announced at a later time and people were giving GF crap until they clarified that LGPE weren't the same as the previously announced 2019 titles. Correct me if I remember any of this incorrectly but if not, this would indicate that LGPE are something less than core games. If LGPE are core games that's the equivalent of GF announcing Sun/Moon after XY and then saying "oh btw, before SM we are gonna release gen 3 remakes, they aren't the same games as SM, we just thought we should announce gen 7 first." Yeah, LGPE are much closer gameplay-wise to the core games than, say, mystery dungeon or pokemon pinball but they are also not quite there.

::::Moreover, even if Masuda has said in an interview "LGPE are core titles", I'm still not sure if that is relevant in classifying Meltan's gen. LGPE don't have Crobat or Electivire or any gen 2-7 pokemon but they have Megas and Alolan forms and Meltan. This is just a weird situation where they used Meltan as a promo thing - not at all an indication that it's gen 7. They've even dropped mainline mechanics like breeding and abilities... Meltan being there doesn't conclusively prove anything. I doubt we will get any official statement like "Btw Meltan belongs in X gen" but we are still probably going to get a conclusive answer when they colour code Meltan along with either the gen 7 or gen 8 pokemon in some future title's pokedex. I'm just saying that until then we should keep its status as "Unknown" because that's what it currently is. [[User:MCX|MCX]] ([[User talk:MCX|talk]]) 23:49, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
:::::You can check the interview section in the LGPE guidebook if you don't believe that he explicitly has said that they're core titles. "These games aren't spinoffs. These are core Pokémon titles" is the exact quote. Since Meltan and Melmetal appeared in Gen 7 core titles, they're Gen 7 Pokemon. Simple enough. If for whatever reason they change that, then we'll change that too. But we don't really have any reason to believe otherwise. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 23:56, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

== Request to add Trivia section ==

I would like to see a Trivia section added to the bottom of the list, with the following single item:

* With the sole exception of {{p|Type: Null}}, all English Pokémon names in this list are also used for Italian and Spanish languages. The names for '''Type: Null''' in Italian and Spanish are, respectively, ''Tipo Zero'' and ''Código Cero''.

This is to avoid the need for any separate '''List of Italian Pokémon names''' and '''List of Spanish Pokémon names''' pages that would differ from this English page by ONLY ONE ROW. ''(Currently, those two page titles are redirects to the English list.)'' --[[User:SilSinn9801|''SilSinn'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 10:01, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

==Gen 8 Starters==
Grookey, Scorbunny, and Sobble would be National Pokedex 810, 813, and 816. Can these numbers please be added? [[User:Kimichael4317|Kimichael4317]] ([[User talk:Kimichael4317|talk]]) 05:38, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
:We do not actually ''know'' that so no, they won't be added. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 05:43, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
::We have no guarantee as to whether there would be another Victini-like scenario where a Mythical Pokémon would be enumerated right before the starters (as happened in Unova, twice). Hence why we cannot safely assume 810, 813, 816 – it could end up being 811, 814, 817. ‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''SilSinn'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') [[User talk:SilSinn9801|💬]] 07:52, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

== Zekrom has an extra space next to his name. ==

That is all. {{unsigned|MrKarato}}
:Fixed. And don't forget to sign your comments.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:01, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

== Handling forms + smaller suggestions ==

As far as I can tell there's no pattern to how forms are handled on this page. Some Pokémon with alternate forms or major gender differences have their forms present, others do not. Frankly, since it’s a list of Pokémon species according to their number, no Pokémon with form differences should be even included in a different line. Either the alternate forms should be removed entirely, only including the “base” form, or the lines should be combined like on List of Pokémon with unique type combinations. Personally, I'd prefer to have no forms displayed-- it would make the page a whole lot cleaner and easier to use-- but I can see the purpose of displaying forms, so I think that something like this would be best:

{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{firered color}}; background: #{{firered color}}"
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}; background: #{{leafgreen color light}}" | Kdex
! style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}" | Ndex
! style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}" | MS
! style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}" | Pokémon
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}; background: #{{leafgreen color light}}" colspan="2" | Type</noinclude>
|- style="background:#FFF"
| rowspan="2" style="font-family:monospace" | <nowiki>#</nowiki>026
| rowspan="2" style="font-family:monospace" | <nowiki>#</nowiki>026
| {{MSP|026|Raichu}}
| rowspan="2" | {{p|Raichu}}
| colspan="2" style="text-align:center; background:#{{electric color}}" | [[Electric (type)|Electric]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP|026A|Raichu}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{electric color}}" | [[Electric (type)|Electric]]
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{psychic color}}" | [[Psychic (type)|Psychic]]
|}

Again, I think that not displaying forms would be the best way to go, but either way, the current system of handling forms is unsatisfactory, both in the inconsistency between which forms are shown and which are not, and in the actual formatting of the forms.

Additionally, I have two smaller suggestions. First, I believe that it would be better to display the National Pokédex number before the regional Pokédex number, rather than vice versa, as this is a page on the National Pokédex, and that should take priority. Second, at the end of each section, there is no roundy template on the bottom, as you can see above, which makes the bottom of each section square and not as aesthetically pleasing. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 20:05, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

The problem with formes/forms is that there's many different kinds of forms. There's only visual forms (most male female differences/unown forms etc) and there's forms where the stats change (meowstic male/female for instance). There's forms where the typing changes (Wormadom/Necrozma's various forms). There's temporary forms that are only visible in battle (megas/greninja/cherubi). There's temporary forms that are changed by using an item or by depositing the pokemon or by whatever arbitrary reason (giratina/tornadus etc.). There's also regional forms, where a pokemon cannot change to the other form but is basically a different pokemon altogether (alolan and soon galarian forms). Maybe the list should just include all the base forms? And then there could be a seperate table listing all the additional forms for a pokemon?[[User:Jor1ss|Jor1ss]] ([[User talk:Jor1ss|talk]]) 12:40, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

== Information to readers ==

I want to modify the title section, but I have no permission. Could someone add the sentence “All English, Italian and Spanish Pokémon names are identical, but, depending on the language, they're pronounced differently.”? --[[User:TheICTLiker4|'''TheICT''']][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|'''Liker4''']] 18:19, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
:That's not relevant to the article at all.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:13, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
::Well, most european languages use the same names as the English version anyway, in fact only German and French are the the ones that consistently differ. Unless you count the languages that use a different alphabet, only Serbian, Lithuanian and some more perhaps are the only ones that does not use the standard English names instead transcribing it to their own orthography. So I see no really point in mentioned them all here. A simple line like <code>most other languages using the Latin alphabet also uses these names</code> would suffice in my opinion.
::I'm thinking maybe if it's okay with the staff around to make redirect for <code>List of Swedish/Icelandic/Spanish/Romanian/etc. Pokémon names</code> to this page.
::Otherwise, if you're interested, at least one Spanish and Italian name do actually differ from the English name, {{p|Type: Null}}. I've made list articles about which names I have found being used in other languages [[User:Raltseye/Template:Pokelist|here]].
::--[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 13:43, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

== Yamper and Impidimp ==

They're not on here for some reason? Can someone who can edit this page fix that?[[User:AztecCroc|AztecCroc]] ([[User talk:AztecCroc|talk]]) 13:33, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

== Aug 7 Trailer - New Pokémon ==

In the newest trailer, two new Pokémon (Obstagoon and Morpeko), as well as the Galarian forms of Weezing, Zigzagoon, and Linoone were revealed. I don't see them listed on this page yet, those Impidimp, which has still not been officially revealed is. [[User:CMP|CMP]] ([[User talk:CMP|talk]]) 18:46, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

== Missing ==

Currently, Galarian Meowth is missing from this list. [[User:MarioMiner|MarioMiner]] ([[User talk:MarioMiner|talk]]) 03:00, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

== Dex Shortcuts ==

Can we get the dex shortcuts removed or redirected correctly? They're just redirecting to the top of this page. [[User:Joe kik as|Joe kik as]] ([[User talk:Joe kik as|talk]]) 17:33, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
:That's the point of the shortcuts. They're just redirects of this article, and they're there for reference.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
::But why is it at the top of the page if it's just redirecting to the top. If anything it should redirect to different pages corresponding to those links. [[User:Joe kik as|Joe kik as]] ([[User talk:Joe kik as|talk]]) 16:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
:::I already said why, they're there for reference. To let users know which shortcut to type out in the search bar if they wanted to find this article easier (since typing out the entire title would be a hassle). The other dex listings also have shortcuts that lead to their respective articles.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:55, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

== Ndex as the first column ==

I think the Ndex number should probably be the first column. This is the main subject of this list.

The Ndex is currently the 2nd column, which seems like a secondary position. (even though in the case of the first 151 Pokémon, the numbers are the same) --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 10:14, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
:{{template|rdex}} is convenient. I don't think it's that big an issue to make another template just for this. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:23, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
::I'm with Daniel here. This is a list of Pokemon by National Pokedex number. Surely that should be the primary focus. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 18:19, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
:::I could do the job of creating a new template and editing this page if this idea is accepted. It could be simply a new template based on {{template|rdex}} with reverse parameters. A possible name could be {{template|nrdex}} (since {{template|ndex}} is taken) .--[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 00:50, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
::::The header is the only thing here that would need to be changed if this were to be done. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 01:05, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::Aside from that, we may also want to reverse the order of the numbers for each Pokémon in [[List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number]], to make the wikitext match the resulting page. I can do this if needed. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 02:38, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

== Pokémon with different forms not present in the list ==

I don't understand the criteria for Pokémon with different forms, by the type of them:

Gender differences : We do not include the forms of Indeedee, Pyroar and Meowstic, But we allow Unfezant, Frillish and Jellycent?

Different permanent forms but with the same typing: Lycanrock and Toxtricity. But it allows other permanent forms, e.g. Shellos, Gastrodont and Basculin.

Different Forms and different types: Kyurem and Necruzma. But allows Castform, Rotom, Melloeta, Hoopa, Shaymin and Oricorio.

Different Battle forms but same types: Wishiwashi, Cherrim, Landorus, Thundurus, Tornadus, Kyurem, Keldeo, Greninja, Zygarde and Minior are not included. But Deoxis and Gyratina are on the list.

No applicable to the above criteria: Unown, Arceus, Deerling, Sawsbuck, Vivillon, The Flabébé Family and Furfrou. But we do have Burmy and Wormadam and Urshifu. (I understand that the Pokémon in this las criteria have a lot of forms, and that the reason of not their including is for space and order in the page)

Can some one please explain me the criteria for allowing the different forms selection?

--Neos 10:19, April 16 2020 (UTC)
:Yeah, it does seem rather arbitrary to me.

:I think I've mentioned this above but this page is a list of Pokemon by number first and foremost. Including forms at all, imo, muddles the numbering up, at least for me. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 13:48, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

::I think we should take out the unnecessary forms --[[User:Neos|Neos]] ([[User talk:Neos|talk]]) 00:36, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

== You forgot NDex# of Galarian Slowking ==

Force Fire: You added NDex numbers for Galarian forms of Slowbro & the Legendary Birds (even if no menu sprites exist for them yet), but you forgot Galarian Slowking:
<pre>{{rdex||???|Slowking|1|???}}</pre>
Given this page is protected, I cannot change the page myself; could you please provisionally change that line to:
<pre>{{rdex||199G|Slowking|1|???}}</pre>
‐⁠‑''[[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn]]'' ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') [[User talk:SilSinn9801|💬]] 17:01, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
:Fixed --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 01:21, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
::This page needs to be edited as Galarian Slowking's type was confirmed to be Poison/Psychic like Galarian Slowbro was. [[User:Kangaflora|Kangaflora]] ([[User talk:Kangaflora|talk]]) 19:01, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

== 891-893 ==

Pokemon Home's Pokedex , after this morning's patch, seems to confirm that Kubfu, Urshifu, and Zarude are numbers 891, 892, and 893 respectively. That is all. Sorry if this text is really big for some reason.{{unsigned|Zigzagoon97}}

== (Understandable) Style Inconsistencies ==

To be consistent with the style of the page before the Crown Tundra was released, only Calyrex's base form should be present, as neither Kyurem (which, admittedly, does not change type) nor Necrozma (which does change type, and thus should be treated exactly the same way as Calyrex) have their fusion forms present on this list. Alternatively, including Necrozma's forms, and possibly Kyurem's forms, would solve this issue. [[User:MarioMiner|MarioMiner]] ([[User talk:MarioMiner|talk]]) 22:58, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
:Another style inconsistency - in the Generation IV section of the page, Heatran, Regigigas, Cresselia, Phione, Darkrai, Shaymin, and Arceus, the Gen IV Pokémon without Sinnoh Pokédex numbers, have their portions of the "Sdex" column blank. However, Meltan, Melmetal, Kubfu, Urshifu, Zarude, Regieleki, Regidrago, Glastrier, Spectrier, and Calyrex, all Pokémon that do not appear in their respective generations' regional Pokédexes, have "#---" in their regional Pokédex (Adex for Meltan and Melmetal, Gdex for the rest) columns. [[User:MarioMiner|MarioMiner]] ([[User talk:MarioMiner|talk]]) 00:06, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

== Zygarde's Forms ==
Zygard seems to be the only Pokémon currently missing alternate forms.
[[User:RomajiMiltonAmulo|RomajiMiltonAmulo]] ([[User talk:RomajiMiltonAmulo|talk]]) 01:45, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

== Legends: Arceus Pokémon ==

Are the Pokémon and Regional Forms that were shown in the new [[Pokémon Legends: Arceus]] trailer going to be added now or when the game releases? -[[User:Ratboy Jr.|Ratboy Jr.]] ([[User talk:Ratboy Jr.|talk]]) 22:40, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

== Mega Aerodactyl needs to be added. ==

A couple Megas were forgotten to be added. Could you please scout through and add them? {{unsigned|Necrozma800}}
:They are left out for a reason, Mega Evolutions are not completely new species, they are a transformed state of the same base species.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:06, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

== Legends arceus pokemon ==

We need numbers for Basculegion, wyrdeer, Kleavor, we need these pokemon added Overqwil, Enamorus, Ursaluna, and Sneasler. Dex numbers (national) are : 899 is Wyrdeer 900 is Kleavor 901 is Ursaluna 902 is Basculegion 903 is Sneasler 904 is Overqwil, 905 is Enamorus, so yeah [[User:ItsRobloxHere|ItsRobloxHere]] ([[User talk:ItsRobloxHere|talk]]) 00:24, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

== H.Goodra's typing ==

it should be Steel/Dragon, not Dragon/Steel.
[[User:Anzasquiddles|Anzasquiddles]] ([[User talk:Anzasquiddles|talk]]) 05:56, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

== Hisuian Braviary's MSP, and Origin Formes for Dialga and Palkia ==

Well, the second point is more of a question. I see there's plenty of contention on the matter of form-inclusion, but Giratina's Origin Forme is on the list so I thought I'd mention it.
[[User:Pichugetic|Pichugetic]] ([[User talk:Pichugetic|talk]]) 01:06, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

: Oh, just noticed: also Hisuian Avalugg. [[User:Pichugetic|Pichugetic]] ([[User talk:Pichugetic|talk]]) 07:31, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

== Unfezant, Frillish and Jellycent: only one entry per Pokémon? ==

For the majority of Pokémon, only the male appearence is shown. However, it does not apply for Shellos, Gastrodon, Unfezant, Frillish and Jellycent. Shellos and Gastrodon are region-based in several (all?) games, so displaying both appearances is justified, but it does not apply for Unfezant, Frillish and Jellycent. So is there something special about those 3 Pokémon that grants 2 entries for each of them in the list? [[User:Y2110|Y2110]] ([[User talk:Y2110|talk]]) 11:42, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

EDIT: Oh, it has already been discussed on this page. My bad

== 3D Sprites ==

Why have the 2D sprites been changed to the 3D Pokemon Home ones? The 3D sprites mesh horribly with the tables and lists, take up too much space, and have too much color and detail making it hard to focus on anything but the sprites themselves. I can understand wanting to upgrade but sometimes less is more especially for someone who has sensitive eyes or ADHD. There could at least be an option to select whether you what to view 2D or 3D sprites.[[User:Strawhatroger|Strawhatroger]] ([[User talk:Strawhatroger|talk]]) 16:57, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
:It's a necessity. We already had too much inconsistency between sprites from SwSh, LGPE, PLA and older ones, soon we'll get another ones for SV which would make it even worse. Fortunately HOME sprite are very consistent and exist for alternate forms. They don't take more space because previously we already had big 68px squares.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 17:34, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

The HOME sprites pop out way too much and are too bright hurting my eyes making it very difficult to do thing like look at lists without straining my eyes.[[User:Strawhatroger|Strawhatroger]] ([[User talk:Strawhatroger|talk]]) 17:55, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Talk:List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number/Archive 2

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== Archives ==
* [[Talk:List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
__TOC__
== Gen VI ==
<s>Could Aurorus and Tyrantrum be added to the page, or will they be added after this mystery Pokémon is revealed tomorrow?</s> Scratch that. Aurorus, Tyrantrum, and Doublade need to be added. --[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 16:19, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

== 719, 720, 721 ==

I remember reading somewhere that someone discovered Pokemon past Zygarde. Should we add them? [[User:Liberty Bell|Liberty Bell]] ([[User talk:Liberty Bell|talk]]) 14:25, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
:We know about them, but we can't really confirm them since this time we neither can crack into the game to see all the data, nor they've been officialy revealed... at least for now. [[User:Uploader|Uploader]] ([[User talk:Uploader|talk]]) 14:39, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

== Cottonee's type change ==

Can anyone add Fairy type to Cottonee please, that's because it's evolution is also Fairy type. Thank you! [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ([[User talk:Cinday123|talk]]) 06:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

== False typing ==

Cottonee and Whimsicott are not fairy type. Why do people keep stating that when you cannot even find them in x or y? --[[User:Admantus|Admantus]] ([[User talk:Admantus|talk]]) 19:07, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
:You can't catch them yourself, but they are used by other Trainers in battle facilities, etc. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 20:19, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

::And according to Serebii, Cottonee line is now Fairy type, however, you can't catch them in Kalos and the only way to get them is to transfer Pokémon from Black, White, Black 2 or White 2 to X or Y, this is because it is not available to catch in Kalos however you have a chance to see them in battle facilities whereas Trainers used Whimsicott. [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ([[User talk:Cinday123|talk]]) 08:52, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, Serebii might be wrong, because they haven't even updated the sprites for the other unobtainable pokemon that appear post-game. I think that the types should be switched back to pure grass until pokemon bank comes out. --[[User:Admantus|Admantus]] ([[User talk:Admantus|talk]]) 20:56, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

:That has nothing to do with it. I mean, the information on Bulbapedia is always confirmed information. And any information that wasn't confirmed gets removed. So, the fact that Cottonee/Whimsicott being Grass/Fairy hasn't been removed or altered back to it's original information/typing means it's been confirmed. And like [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] and others have said, just because you can't catch it in the Kalos region games doesn't mean you can't still obtain it. And that means, the information for Cottonee & Whimsicott are programmed in the games. So, I say let it be. [[User:DarienLeonhart|DarienLeonhart]] ([[User talk:DarienLeonhart|talk]]) 21:52, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

== Order ==

Is it just me or are the pokemon listed for gen VI out of order? Not like broken, but I see like 114 right after 93 and etc. ★☆[[User:Togetic45|'''Toge''']][[User talk:Togetic45|'''tic''']][[Special:Contributions/Togetic45|'''45''']]☆★ 18:58, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
:It's not out of order. Those are the Pokemon's Kalos Dex numbers. The list is ordered by the National Dex numbers. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 19:05, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

== Secret Gen 6 Pokemon ==

What about those secret Pokemon from Gen 6? The ones after Zygarde? Shouldn't they be on here now? [[User:MegaNerd18|MegaNerd18]] ([[User talk:MegaNerd18|talk]]) 11:36, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

:I'm so sorry, the Pokémon Company haven't revealed these mythical Pokémon so let's just leave it for now until it's revealed so we don't know yet. [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 12:24, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Well I think the hacker who discovered the secret Pokemon is reliable because the Pokemon he found where: Hoopla, Volcanion, Daince, Fancy Vivillon, and the Mega Eon twins. Four out of six have revealed. If we do put in Hoopla and Volcaion when should put a little star (*) like on the list of Pokemon in the a area in the ranger game if you must release them after you catch them. --[[User:AbsolX|AbsolX]] ([[User talk:AbsolX|talk]]) 17:46, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

== Generation VI Sprites ==

Why there are no sprites for the new Pokémon introduced in X and Y? [[User:Dalton358|Dalton358]] ([[User talk:Dalton358|talk]]) 20:25, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
:Because we don't have them and we don't allow taking from other sites without permission. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 20:33, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
::I figured it would take longer to get them, because it's on a different system. I wonder how the other websites got their images. [[User:Dalton358|Dalton358]] ([[User talk:Dalton358|talk]]) 21:41, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
:::They have 3DS capture cards. Few Bulbapedia users do, and the only ones I've seen with them have been focusing on other things, like Trainer images. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:44, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

== Multiple Pokédeces in Generation VI ==
In the Generation VI, there are 3 Pokédeces: Kalos Central, Kalos Coastal and Kalos Mountain. For example:
# Chespin is Kalos Central #001
# Inkay is Kalos Coastal #010
# Goomy is Kalos Mountain #019
The list doesn't reflect it.

-[[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 08:27, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
:That's because this is the National Pokédex list. You want [[List of Pokémon by Kalos Pokédex number]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:32, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
::Of course I understand that. I am not stupid. I can read. What I am suggesting is to add a very small token in front of each Kalos number to indicate if it is Central, Coastal or Mountain, as these are a part of the Generation VI dex. If there is no indication of the sub-region, the column of the table of Generation VI will have limited meaning here. I'd suggest you either delete the whole column, or add the small indication of which sub-region the number belongs to. -[[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 04:39, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
:::This is still an issue. Scatterbug and Sligoo are still labeled with the same number in the Kalos Dex without distinction. Also, that column is labelled VIDex, which will be misleading with the release of ORAS. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 06:55, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
::::I concur with the main issue. Don't write completely undifferentiated numbers as if all you have to do is scroll through one Pokedex to find any given Pokemon; that's not at all the case. Do something like this:
{{rdexh|X|Y|dexname={{color2|000|List of Pokémon by Kalos Pokédex number|VIdex}}}}
{{rdex|001Ce|650|Chespin|1|Grass}}
{{rdex|002Ce|651|Quilladin|1|Grass}}
|}
::::I would also strongly suggest linking the regional 'dex abbreviations in the headers so people can click on them and immediately jump to those 'dexes. (If this were done, this would make "VIdex" less "misleading".) I linked "VIdex" above, and I'll demonstrate the same for the other generations below...
{{rdexh|red|green|dexname={{color2|000|List of Pokémon by Kanto Pokédex number|Kdex}}}}
|}
{{rdexh|gold|silver|dexname={{color2|000|List of Pokémon by Johto Pokédex number|Jdex}}}}
|}
{{rdexh|ruby|sapphire|dexname={{color2|000|List of Pokémon by Hoenn Pokédex number|Hdex}}}}
|}
{{rdexh|diamond|pearl|dexname={{color2|000|List of Pokémon by Sinnoh Pokédex number|Sdex}}}}
|}
{{rdexh|black|white|dexname={{color2|000|List of Pokémon by Unova Pokédex number|Udex}}}}
|}
::::For that matter, I'd also suggest linking "Ndex" similarly in [[Template:Rdexh|the header template]] so it links easily back here on the regional 'dex pages. ...And "Type" could also be linked, just because it's the sort of thing that ''should'' be clickable. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:47, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
:::::This is still an issue. Scatterbug and Sligoo are still labeled with the same number in the Kalos Dex without distinction. Also, Diancie needs its Kalos Dex number added (#151 in Central). --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 09:43, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
::::::As Abcboy said, this remains an issue. I have taken the liberty of creating [[User:Tiddlywinks/List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number|a user page]] that fixes the main issue in this discussion. The page also incorporates my idea for 'dex links in the headers, as well as renames the Kalos section's table header from "VIdex", a name that is not proper considering the existence of ORAS now.
::::::I hope someone on staff will take a cursory look at my user page and then copy the code onto this page (give or take the headers, perhaps), so that this issue may finally be solved. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:58, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
:::::::Bump... [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:29, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

== Color ==

I noticed that the color coordination is not in accord with the Kalos National Pokédex. Shouldn't each region get the appropriate color attributed to them? [[User:Mr. Guye|Mr. Guye]] ([[User talk:Mr. Guye|talk]]) 20:57, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

:Interesting observation. I had never noticed the color coding in the Kalos National Pokédex before, but it's there, and is to my knowledge the first time an official source has used color coding to denote regions.
:Bulbapedia currently uses specific colors for regions, but this particular page uses the colors of the first games taking place in those regions. Perhaps the colors for the tables on this page should be replaced with the region colors. Meanwhile, replacing the region colors themselves with the ones in X and Y is a discussion that should take place but might be too big for this page. I would recommend taking that up with a staff member. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 18:36, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

== The icon for diancie. ==
Now that Diancie has been released, you guys need to update this page to contain the sprite for diancie so it is no longer a grey question mark. [[User:Randomviewer896|Random Viewer]]

== Flabébé line ==

We've done it for Shaymin, Burmy and Rotom (as well as others) and the sprites are in the Archives, so can an admin (since I can't edit the page) add on the different mini sprites of them, or explain to me why they aren't used on it? Thanks.--[[User:Ditto51|Ditto51/Tom]] ([[User_Talk:Ditto51|My Talk Page]]) 20:47, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

== Save space ==

Welcome. I got the idea, in which a list of Pokemon replace the tiles. It would have saved a lot of space and reduced the site to a minimum. Imagine this:
{|
|
{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; background: #{{red color}};"
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytop|5px}}; background: #{{green color light}}" | Ndex: #001
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 | [[File:001Bulbasaur.png|100px]]
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 align=center | {{p|{{{3|Bulbasaur}}}}}
|-
| align=center style="{{roundybl|5px}} background:#{{Grass color}}" width=50% | [[Grass (type)|Grass]]
| align=center style="{{roundybr|5px}}; background:#{{Poison color}}" width=50% | [[Poison (type)|Poison]]
|}
|
{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; background: #{{red color}};"
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytop|5px}}; background: #{{green color light}}" | Ndex: #002
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 | [[File:002Ivysaur.png|100px]]
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 align=center | {{p|{{{3|Ivysaur}}}}}
|-
| align=center style="{{roundybl|5px}} background:#{{Grass color}}" width=50% | [[Grass (type)|Grass]]
| align=center style="{{roundybr|5px}}; background:#{{Poison color}}" width=50% | [[Poison (type)|Poison]]
|}
|
{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; background: #{{red color}};"
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytop|5px}}; background: #{{green color light}}" | Ndex: #003
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 | [[File:003Venusaur.png|100px]]
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 align=center | {{p|{{{3|Venusaur}}}}}
|-
| align=center style="{{roundybl|5px}} background:#{{Grass color}}" width=50% | [[Grass (type)|Grass]]
| align=center style="{{roundybr|5px}}; background:#{{Poison color}}" width=50% | [[Poison (type)|Poison]]
|}
|
{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; background: #{{red color}};"
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytop|5px}}; background: #{{green color light}}" | Ndex: #004
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 | [[File:004Charmander.png|100px]]
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 align=center | {{p|{{{3|Charmander}}}}}
|-
| colspan=2 align=center style="{{roundybottom|5px}} background:#{{Fire color}}" | [[Fire (type)|Fire]]
|}
|
{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; background: #{{red color}};"
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytop|5px}}; background: #{{green color light}}" | Ndex: #005
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 | [[File:005Charmeleon.png|100px]]
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 align=center | {{p|{{{3|Charmeleon}}}}}
|-
| colspan=2 align=center style="{{roundybottom|5px}} background:#{{Fire color}}" | [[Fire (type)|Fire]]
|}
|
{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; background: #{{red color}};"
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytop|5px}}; background: #{{green color light}}" | Ndex: #006
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 | [[File:006Charizard.png|100px]]
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 align=center | {{p|{{{3|Charizard}}}}}
|-
| align=center style="{{roundybl|5px}} background:#{{Fire color}}" width=50% | [[Fire (type)|Fire]]
| align=center style="{{roundybr|5px}}; background:#{{Flying color}}" width=50% | [[Flying (type)|Flying]]
|}
|
{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; background: #{{red color}};"
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytop|5px}}; background: #{{green color light}}" | Ndex: #007
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 | [[File:007Squirtle.png|100px]]
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 align=center | {{p|{{{3|Squirtle}}}}}
|-
| colspan=2 align=center style="{{roundybottom|5px}} background:#{{Water color}}" | [[Water (type)|Water]]
|}
|
{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; background: #{{red color}};"
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytop|5px}}; background: #{{green color light}}" | Ndex: #008
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 | [[File:008Wartortle.png|100px]]
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 align=center | {{p|{{{3|Wartortle}}}}}
|-
| colspan=2 align=center style="{{roundybottom|5px}} background:#{{Water color}}" | [[Water (type)|Water]]
|}
|
{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; background: #{{red color}};"
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytop|5px}}; background: #{{green color light}}" | Ndex: #009
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 | [[File:009Blastoise.png|100px]]
|-style="background:#FFFFFF;"
| colspan=2 align=center | {{p|{{{3|Blastoise}}}}}
|-
| colspan=2 align=center style="{{roundybottom|5px}} background:#{{Water color}}" | [[Water (type)|Water]]
|}
|}

As you can see images of Pokémon will be bigger and will take less than half the length now. --[[User:Dominikololo|Dominikololo]] ([[User talk:Dominikololo|talk]]) 09:47, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

:I don't necessarily agree with this idea. It looks better and shows off a Pokémon's appearance in full instead of just resorting to the icon, yes, but it's a lot more complex to work with incase there's an error. If you want to make it, you can do it as a personal user page under something like [[User:Dominikololo/Visual National Pokédex]] just to give us a full example. [[User:Superjustinbros.|Superjustinbros.]] ([[User talk:Superjustinbros.|talk]]) 03:30, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

== Generation III ==

Considering the fact the Johto Pokédex part of the Gen II Pokémon section was updated to the newer version from HG/SS, it's probably best we update Hoenn's under the Gen III Pokémon section to the one from ΩR/αS. [[User:Nintendocan|Nintendocan]] ([[User talk:Nintendocan|talk]]) 00:17, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

== Hoopa Unbound and Dex numbers ==

Hoopa's Unbound form needs to be added. Diancie, Hoopa and Volcanion's Dex numbers also. [[User:Asmod96|Asmod96]] ([[User talk:Asmod96|talk]]) 16:09, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

{{rdexh|X|Y|VI}}
{{rdex|150|718|Zygarde|2|Dragon|Ground}}
{{rdex|151|719|Diancie|2|Rock|Fairy}}
{{rdex|152|720|Hoopa|2|Psychic|Ghost}}
{{rdex|152|720U|Hoopa|2|Psychic|Dark}}
{{rdex|153|721|Volcanion|2|Fire|Water}}
|}

== Sun and Moon Legendary Mascots ==

Can someone who has access to editing this page add [http://www.serebii.net/news/2016/20-April-2016.shtml Solgaleo and Lunaala] to the Gen VII list? They have been revealed along with the Alola starters, but remained nameless in the video. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 23:16, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
:As you say, they are nameless. Until there is confirmation, we will not be assuming their names. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:26, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

== Charjabug and Vikavolt ==

Shouldn't Charjabug and Vikavolt be immediately after Grubbin, seeing as they're its evolutions? [[User:Pokemega32|Pokemega32]] ([[User talk:Pokemega32|talk]]) 13:55, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
:I noticed that too; I think whoever renamed/added them meant to move both Rockruff and Komala down, but somehow missed Rockruff... [[User:AmoongussForLife|AmoongussForLife]] ([[User talk:AmoongussForLife|talk]]) 14:14, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
::Just went to look at it and it seems SnorlaxMonster got it covered. Thanks for pointing it out. Too bad we don't know anything about their official numbering yet, but I guess they want to keep some things (how many 'Mons, for instance" a secret, so meh. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 17:32, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

== Hippowdon ==

If Unfezant and Frillish line are included twice for both genders, shouldn't Hippowdon be added as well? Their appearance is quite different as well.
Same goes for several other cases, if Hoopa and Meloetta have their forms added, why not Keldeo or Kami trio? Who decides what should appear and what shouldn't, and by what rule??? {{unsigned|KingisNitro}}
:The Hippos, it may be because official art (see [[Hippopotas (Pokémon)]], the big image at the top) AFAIK has never depicted the female forms, while for {{p|Frillish}} and {{p|Unfezant}} it has.
:The difference between Hoopa and Meoetta vs Keldeo and the Kami trio may be that the former change types when they change form. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:35, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
::Another contributing reason is that the game does not have gender-specific menu sprites for the Hippopotas family. Together with the lack of a type difference between genders, adding a seperate row for the other gender will not accomplish anything content-wise. [[User:Chenzw|Chenzw]] ([[User talk:Chenzw|talk]]) 16:49, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
:::Basculin is also listed twice, by the way. Vivillon, that also changes menu sprite depending on forms, is only included once (understandably because of how many form differences it has).
:::I mean I was mostly asking, so thanks for "justifying" it. Also, regarding whether it adds anything content-wise - except for the type changing forms, nothing really adds any content (Frillish, Hippos, Unfezant, Basculin, Vivillon), which is why I was puzzled. Didn't seem like there was any actual reason to include multiples. But I guess Sugimori arts are a good enough reason (I just couldn't figure it out). {{unsigned|KingisNitro}}

== Alolan ==

Someone needs to add the recently revealed Pokemon, which I assume would include Alolan Forms (as they all change type.) [[User:AmoongussForLife|AmoongussForLife]] ([[User talk:AmoongussForLife|talk]]) 17:32, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

:No, I think this page is better suited for the Pokémon with their natural Pokémon types to help prevent the page from getting too messy or confusing. This is why separate sub-pages are better suited to handling this such as the [[Mega Evolution]] page. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 00:37, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
::FWIW, the Alola Forms' types are no less natural than the forms we've always known. That said, we haven't yet decided whether we want the Alola Forms here or not. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:41, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
:::I would think that the Alolan Forms should be added, as the type changes, it appears the Pokémon don't switch between the two (an Ice/Fairy Ninetales would have Ice Vulpix), and multiple entries are added for Darmanitan, which is a similar case. I suppose the second point is mostly speculation at this point, though, but I don't think it would hurt the page overall. [[User:AmoongussForLife|AmoongussForLife]] ([[User talk:AmoongussForLife|talk]]) 01:06, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

== Wimpod's types ==

[[Wimpod]]'s types are Bug/Water, not Water/Bug. Someone should fix it. --[[User:RafaelGN|RafaelGN]] ([[User talk:RafaelGN|talk]]) 03:09, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
:Fixed. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:23, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

== Wishiwashi, Pyukumuku, and Morelull ==

This page still lists the japanese names even though the English names are revealed and confirmed and the pages for them use the English names. [[User:AztecCroc|AztecCroc]] ([[User talk:AztecCroc|talk]]) 14:16, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

== Rugarugan ==

Someone needs to add Rugarugan after Rockruff; it's been over a day. [[User:AmoongussForLife|AmoongussForLife]] ([[User talk:AmoongussForLife|talk]]) 17:19, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
:I will try see if I can. [[User:Awesomevenustoise101|Awesomevenustoise101]] ([[User talk:Awesomevenustoise101|talk]]) 17:22, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
::never mind I didn't know that the page is protected. [[User:Awesomevenustoise101|Awesomevenustoise101]] ([[User talk:Awesomevenustoise101|talk]]) 17:23, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
:::It hasn't been added because there is no page for it and it hasn't been officially revealed, it was leaked. The admins know what they are doing and it will be added when it gets added. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 17:25, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

== why is this page protected? ==

why is this page protected? I want to add Rugarugan after Rockruff but I can't. [[User:Awesomevenustoise101|Awesomevenustoise101]] ([[User talk:Awesomevenustoise101|talk]]) 17:25, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
:Most of the time it doesn't need to be changed, and when it does, we don't want people jumping the gun on rumors and stuff. Things like this we (as staff) update it when it's appropriate to do so. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:48, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

== Rowlet National dex number and menu sprites ==

On the [http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pokemon-bank/ Pokémon Bank page] on the official site, menu sprites for several Gen VII Pokémon have been shown, and Rowlet have been confirmed as #722. Here's direct links for the relevant images: [http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/media/uploads/sept_20_assets/screenshots/top/sept20_p12_01_en.png Top screen], [http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/media/uploads/sept_20_assets/screenshots/bottom/sept20_p12_01_en.png Bottom screen] - [[User:RHeegaard|RHeegaard]] ([[User talk:RHeegaard|talk]]) 00:21, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

:I'm assuming that the reason only Rowlet, Litten, Popplio, and Pikipek were uploaded is because they are the only ones with numbers (I am curious where you got official evidence of Litten, Popplio, and Pikipek's numbers though?), but would it not be possible to upload the others as "DrampaMS.png" and such so that they can be listed? It would make the table easier to read, I think. It's also what we do with artwork (whereas Pikachu's artwork is [[a:File:025Pikachu.png|File:025Pikachu.png]], Drampa's is [[a:File:Drampa.png|File:Drampa.png]]), so it's not like it goes against Bulbapedia's other efforts. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 03:05, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
::In large part, most places where menu sprites are used simply ''cannot'' accomodate filenames like DrampaMS (this page being an excellent example of such a place). The few places it might be usable aren't really worth it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:20, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

== Additions ==

Can we add: [[Steenee (Pokémon)]], [[Tsareena (Pokémon)]], [[Hakamo-o (Pokémon)]], [[Ribombee (Pokémon)]]? [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] ([[User talk:Kidburla|talk]]) 14:01, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
:They've already been added. --[[User:Carmenstar97|Carmen★]] ''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|(Talk |]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|contribs)]]'' 14:02, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
::Thanks. Seems they were added while I was typing the post. [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] ([[User talk:Kidburla|talk]]) 16:44, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
:::For future reference, if you just wait, someone will almost assuredly get to it soon enough. (I mean, if someone asked this every time there was a new reveal, this page would probably quickly end up bloated.) If it's 24 hours later, ''then'' it's late. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:50, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

== Oricorio ==

How come {{p|Castform}} has all of its forms on the list but {{p|Oricorio}} doesn't? --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 00:06, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
:Personally, it could be due to the criteria, but I cannot tell. So, here is a hopefully complete list of what Pokémon with multiple menu sprites appear and which do not.
:From the group that does appear: Unfezant (Gender difference), Frillish (Gender), Jellicent (Gender), Castform (Ability), Deoxys (Form), Burmy (Form), Wormadam (Form), Shellos (Form), Gastrodon (Form), Rotom (Form), Giratina (Item), Shaymin (Item), Basculin (Form), Darmanitan (Ability), Meloetta (Move), Hoopa (Item), All Alolan Pokémon (Form)
:From the group that does ''not'' appear: Pyroar (Gender difference), Meowstic (Gender), Ash-Greninja (Ability), Zygarde (Forme), Kyurem (Item), Cosplay Pikachu (Form), Pikachu (Unknown), Spiky-eared Pichu (Form), Unown (Form), Cherrim (Ability), Arceus (Item), Flabébé (Form), Floette (Form), Florges (Form), Deerling (Form), Sawsbuck (Form), Tornadus (Item), Thundurus (Item), Landorus (Item), Keldeo (Move), Vivillon (Form), Furfrou (Form), Aegislash (Ability), Oricorio (Item), Silvally (Item), Minior (Ability), All Mega/Primal Evolution Pokémon (Item/Move),
:...So, basically, I would guess that this might have been potentially overlooked. Who is to say? Granted, I do understand that Unown, Vivillon, Arceus, and Silvally likely are excluded for a good reason. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:19, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
::IMO, there definitely should be Oricorio with all its form, I thought that only forms with different type combination are added, but if there are also some gender differences... I even think there should be Mega Evolutions, if we will be adding forms. [[User:Asmod96|Asmod96]] ([[User talk:Asmod96|talk]]) 08:13, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
:::Most of these are probably missing because, as was mentioned in my "Hippowdon" question, they don't have official Sugimori art. Frillish has official art for both genders, while Hippowdon doesn't, hence it doesn't get two pictures. P weird reasonong, but I guess it works; Oricorio DOES have official art (in fact, most mentioned Pokemon do) and the forms change typing (good enough reason if you ask me), so I think someone should add them. Also, why can't we merge the forms into a single line (similarly to [[Pokémon with unique type combinations]] page)? {{unsigned|KingisNitro}}
::::The most important thing to remember, I think, is that this is a list of Pokémon species. It's not a list of minisprites. It's not even a list of Pokémon's types—those are included supplementarily. And it's ''certainly'' not a list of Ken Sugimori art.
::::On that note, I think the inclusion and exclusion of form differences should follow a less horrendously arbitrary standard. Either A) all forms with unique minisprites or types are included, or B) only one form per species is included, determined by a consistent criterion. If we go with A, I absolutely agree with KingisNitro that they should be merged into a single row, since it makes no sense to list the same species multiple times in a list of species. If we go B, I propose that the criterion be "whichever form is leftmost in Pokémon Bank's National Pokédex", since this is consistently a form that can be considered the most basic or "default".
::::So the question is, A or B? Should we put it up to a vote? [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 02:27, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
:::::I am going to mention that this technically is over six month old, but I will say that if anyone wants to put this up for a vote or needs to make a new section to discuss this can go ahead. Though, I do want to note that we now have issues with Pokémon like Togekiss who have two menu sprites just for which side they are facing. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:05, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
:This is still not "fixed". If castform's forms count then I really do think many of the others should be included as well. Maybe not all Unown or Vivillon forms since they're purely cosmetic. I do think forms that change type or stats should be included (like Necrozma or Zygarde forms...) -[[User:Jor1ss|Jor1ss]] ([[User talk:Jor1ss|talk]]) 17:04, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
::So, personally, I'm sorry that this keeps getting forgotten. On the other hand, even now, I can't muster enough of myself to "care" about it to check everything and do it up right... If someone wants to create a user page, we can look at it and see what's different and decide how much should be added. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:44, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
:::I'd love to help with adding them but maybe I can't because my account is only 1 day old? I'm also not sure what having a userpage would do for adding to the list? Isn't a userpage just a page for each user? I'm very new here so I don't really know what to do sorry. -[[User:Jor1ss|Jor1ss]] ([[User talk:Jor1ss|talk]]) 06:48, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

==Alola==

At the very top of the page, it still doesn't list Alola with the rest of the regions. [[User:AmoongussForLife|AmoongussForLife]] ([[User talk:AmoongussForLife|talk]]) 10:53, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

== Alolan Pokedex number of new Pokemon ==

The ADex numbers of Poipole, Naganadel, Stakataka, Blacephalon, and Zeraora should be changed to 261, 262, 392, 393, and 403 respectively. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:13, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
:I'm not sure if this kind of a "noisy post" or "bump" is allowed, but I need to somehow get someone to pay attention to this. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 02:00, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

== Gliscor sprite missing ==

the Gliscor Sprite is missing, can't edit to put it in [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 17:57, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

That's just an error on your end. [[User:AztecCroc|AztecCroc]] ([[User talk:AztecCroc|talk]]) 22:04, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

== Spin-off Pokedexes? ==

Sort of an off-topic but idk where else to ask; do we have Pokedexes for side/spin-off games (Rumble, Mystery Dungeon, Pinball, Ranger, Trozei/Shuffle...)? I think it would be neat to list the Pokemon with places to find them/other important information. If so - where, if not - why? If I made them on my page, could they be added to Bulba? (Where else can I ask this question?) ~[[User:KingisNitro|'''KingisNitro''']] ([[User talk:KingisNitro|talk]]) 01:04, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
:As seen in the List of Pokémon template below the articles, yes, we do have Pokédex listing of other/spin-off games. Unless there's another listing you want to suggest.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:32, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

== Meltan and Melmetal should not be under "generation VII" category ==

Officially, meltan and melmetal are under the region "unknown" and as such they should both be under that new category. furthermore, their pokedex numbers are 808 and 809 officially too.
{{unsigned|Supermassimo}}
:Well, I see what you mean but this list is sorted by generation. And those Pokémon were indeed introduced in the generation it says they were. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 14:08, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

::By that logic though, shouldn't Marill and Togepi be listed as generation 1 pokemon, Munchlax as a generation 3 pokemon and Magearna as a generation 6 pokemon? In fact, every single generation other than the first had a pokemon revealed in some medium before the release of the main games and this is especially true of mythicals. (Victini is in a similar situation to Meltan being listed just after the gen 4 mythicals and before the gen 5 starters even though it is considered gen 5 itself)

::In fact, the only difference is that all these other pokemon were typically revealed in movies or the anime whereas Meltan/Melmetal are playable in Pokemon Go/Let's Go. That said, these are still just spinoff games (which actually don't even have any other gen 7 pokemon in them other than alolan forms) and neither Meltan nor Melmetal are available in any mainline gen 7 games. Finally, Pokemon Go goes as far as to classify Meltan's region as "Unknown" whereas it could have easily been listed as Alola if it was intended to be a gen 7 pokemon. (And Magearna has nothing to do with either Kalos nor Alola but is still classified as "Gen 7" in the Sun/Moon pokedex.

::Sorry, for the long rant but my point is that strictly speaking the situation for Meltan/Melmetal is "Unknown" and ideally this should be reflected on the page to avoid speculating. However, if people insist on assigning a region/generation to it, I think it's far more likely to be "Galar"/"Gen 8" and not "Alola". Just my 2 cents. [[User:MCX|MCX]] ([[User talk:MCX|talk]]) 21:52, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
:::I would agree with your logic if not for your assumption that LGPE are not mainline games. They are core Pokémon games, which has been reiterated multiple times by Masuda and the others at GF. Since they’re catchable and playable in a mainline Gen VII game, they’re Gen VII Pokémon. That’s what separates them from cases like Bonsly, which I think would have been a much better example than Marill or Munchlax. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 12:47, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
::::I'm still not convinced that it's relevant nor that it's the case that LGPE are core titles. I'm not sure which interview you are referring to when saying that Masuda has stated that LGPE are core games but afaik Sword and Shield were first announced as the unnamed 2019 mainline Switch games in e3 2017. Then LGPE were announced at a later time and people were giving GF crap until they clarified that LGPE weren't the same as the previously announced 2019 titles. Correct me if I remember any of this incorrectly but if not, this would indicate that LGPE are something less than core games. If LGPE are core games that's the equivalent of GF announcing Sun/Moon after XY and then saying "oh btw, before SM we are gonna release gen 3 remakes, they aren't the same games as SM, we just thought we should announce gen 7 first." Yeah, LGPE are much closer gameplay-wise to the core games than, say, mystery dungeon or pokemon pinball but they are also not quite there.

::::Moreover, even if Masuda has said in an interview "LGPE are core titles", I'm still not sure if that is relevant in classifying Meltan's gen. LGPE don't have Crobat or Electivire or any gen 2-7 pokemon but they have Megas and Alolan forms and Meltan. This is just a weird situation where they used Meltan as a promo thing - not at all an indication that it's gen 7. They've even dropped mainline mechanics like breeding and abilities... Meltan being there doesn't conclusively prove anything. I doubt we will get any official statement like "Btw Meltan belongs in X gen" but we are still probably going to get a conclusive answer when they colour code Meltan along with either the gen 7 or gen 8 pokemon in some future title's pokedex. I'm just saying that until then we should keep its status as "Unknown" because that's what it currently is. [[User:MCX|MCX]] ([[User talk:MCX|talk]]) 23:49, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
:::::You can check the interview section in the LGPE guidebook if you don't believe that he explicitly has said that they're core titles. "These games aren't spinoffs. These are core Pokémon titles" is the exact quote. Since Meltan and Melmetal appeared in Gen 7 core titles, they're Gen 7 Pokemon. Simple enough. If for whatever reason they change that, then we'll change that too. But we don't really have any reason to believe otherwise. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 23:56, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

== Request to add Trivia section ==

I would like to see a Trivia section added to the bottom of the list, with the following single item:

* With the sole exception of {{p|Type: Null}}, all English Pokémon names in this list are also used for Italian and Spanish languages. The names for '''Type: Null''' in Italian and Spanish are, respectively, ''Tipo Zero'' and ''Código Cero''.

This is to avoid the need for any separate '''List of Italian Pokémon names''' and '''List of Spanish Pokémon names''' pages that would differ from this English page by ONLY ONE ROW. ''(Currently, those two page titles are redirects to the English list.)'' --[[User:SilSinn9801|''SilSinn'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 10:01, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

==Gen 8 Starters==
Grookey, Scorbunny, and Sobble would be National Pokedex 810, 813, and 816. Can these numbers please be added? [[User:Kimichael4317|Kimichael4317]] ([[User talk:Kimichael4317|talk]]) 05:38, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
:We do not actually ''know'' that so no, they won't be added. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 05:43, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
::We have no guarantee as to whether there would be another Victini-like scenario where a Mythical Pokémon would be enumerated right before the starters (as happened in Unova, twice). Hence why we cannot safely assume 810, 813, 816 – it could end up being 811, 814, 817. ‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''SilSinn'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') [[User talk:SilSinn9801|💬]] 07:52, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

== Zekrom has an extra space next to his name. ==

That is all. {{unsigned|MrKarato}}
:Fixed. And don't forget to sign your comments.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:01, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

== Handling forms + smaller suggestions ==

As far as I can tell there's no pattern to how forms are handled on this page. Some Pokémon with alternate forms or major gender differences have their forms present, others do not. Frankly, since it’s a list of Pokémon species according to their number, no Pokémon with form differences should be even included in a different line. Either the alternate forms should be removed entirely, only including the “base” form, or the lines should be combined like on List of Pokémon with unique type combinations. Personally, I'd prefer to have no forms displayed-- it would make the page a whole lot cleaner and easier to use-- but I can see the purpose of displaying forms, so I think that something like this would be best:

{| class=roundy style="margin:auto; border: 2px solid #{{firered color}}; background: #{{firered color}}"
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}; background: #{{leafgreen color light}}" | Kdex
! style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}" | Ndex
! style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}" | MS
! style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}" | Pokémon
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}; background: #{{leafgreen color light}}" colspan="2" | Type</noinclude>
|- style="background:#FFF"
| rowspan="2" style="font-family:monospace" | <nowiki>#</nowiki>026
| rowspan="2" style="font-family:monospace" | <nowiki>#</nowiki>026
| {{MSP|026|Raichu}}
| rowspan="2" | {{p|Raichu}}
| colspan="2" style="text-align:center; background:#{{electric color}}" | [[Electric (type)|Electric]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP|026A|Raichu}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{electric color}}" | [[Electric (type)|Electric]]
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{psychic color}}" | [[Psychic (type)|Psychic]]
|}

Again, I think that not displaying forms would be the best way to go, but either way, the current system of handling forms is unsatisfactory, both in the inconsistency between which forms are shown and which are not, and in the actual formatting of the forms.

Additionally, I have two smaller suggestions. First, I believe that it would be better to display the National Pokédex number before the regional Pokédex number, rather than vice versa, as this is a page on the National Pokédex, and that should take priority. Second, at the end of each section, there is no roundy template on the bottom, as you can see above, which makes the bottom of each section square and not as aesthetically pleasing. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 20:05, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

The problem with formes/forms is that there's many different kinds of forms. There's only visual forms (most male female differences/unown forms etc) and there's forms where the stats change (meowstic male/female for instance). There's forms where the typing changes (Wormadom/Necrozma's various forms). There's temporary forms that are only visible in battle (megas/greninja/cherubi). There's temporary forms that are changed by using an item or by depositing the pokemon or by whatever arbitrary reason (giratina/tornadus etc.). There's also regional forms, where a pokemon cannot change to the other form but is basically a different pokemon altogether (alolan and soon galarian forms). Maybe the list should just include all the base forms? And then there could be a seperate table listing all the additional forms for a pokemon?[[User:Jor1ss|Jor1ss]] ([[User talk:Jor1ss|talk]]) 12:40, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

== Information to readers ==

I want to modify the title section, but I have no permission. Could someone add the sentence “All English, Italian and Spanish Pokémon names are identical, but, depending on the language, they're pronounced differently.”? --[[User:TheICTLiker4|'''TheICT''']][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|'''Liker4''']] 18:19, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
:That's not relevant to the article at all.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:13, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
::Well, most european languages use the same names as the English version anyway, in fact only German and French are the the ones that consistently differ. Unless you count the languages that use a different alphabet, only Serbian, Lithuanian and some more perhaps are the only ones that does not use the standard English names instead transcribing it to their own orthography. So I see no really point in mentioned them all here. A simple line like <code>most other languages using the Latin alphabet also uses these names</code> would suffice in my opinion.
::I'm thinking maybe if it's okay with the staff around to make redirect for <code>List of Swedish/Icelandic/Spanish/Romanian/etc. Pokémon names</code> to this page.
::Otherwise, if you're interested, at least one Spanish and Italian name do actually differ from the English name, {{p|Type: Null}}. I've made list articles about which names I have found being used in other languages [[User:Raltseye/Template:Pokelist|here]].
::--[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 13:43, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

== Yamper and Impidimp ==

They're not on here for some reason? Can someone who can edit this page fix that?[[User:AztecCroc|AztecCroc]] ([[User talk:AztecCroc|talk]]) 13:33, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

== Aug 7 Trailer - New Pokémon ==

In the newest trailer, two new Pokémon (Obstagoon and Morpeko), as well as the Galarian forms of Weezing, Zigzagoon, and Linoone were revealed. I don't see them listed on this page yet, those Impidimp, which has still not been officially revealed is. [[User:CMP|CMP]] ([[User talk:CMP|talk]]) 18:46, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

== Missing ==

Currently, Galarian Meowth is missing from this list. [[User:MarioMiner|MarioMiner]] ([[User talk:MarioMiner|talk]]) 03:00, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

== Dex Shortcuts ==

Can we get the dex shortcuts removed or redirected correctly? They're just redirecting to the top of this page. [[User:Joe kik as|Joe kik as]] ([[User talk:Joe kik as|talk]]) 17:33, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
:That's the point of the shortcuts. They're just redirects of this article, and they're there for reference.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
::But why is it at the top of the page if it's just redirecting to the top. If anything it should redirect to different pages corresponding to those links. [[User:Joe kik as|Joe kik as]] ([[User talk:Joe kik as|talk]]) 16:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
:::I already said why, they're there for reference. To let users know which shortcut to type out in the search bar if they wanted to find this article easier (since typing out the entire title would be a hassle). The other dex listings also have shortcuts that lead to their respective articles.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:55, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

== Ndex as the first column ==

I think the Ndex number should probably be the first column. This is the main subject of this list.

The Ndex is currently the 2nd column, which seems like a secondary position. (even though in the case of the first 151 Pokémon, the numbers are the same) --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 10:14, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
:{{template|rdex}} is convenient. I don't think it's that big an issue to make another template just for this. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:23, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
::I'm with Daniel here. This is a list of Pokemon by National Pokedex number. Surely that should be the primary focus. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 18:19, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
:::I could do the job of creating a new template and editing this page if this idea is accepted. It could be simply a new template based on {{template|rdex}} with reverse parameters. A possible name could be {{template|nrdex}} (since {{template|ndex}} is taken) .--[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 00:50, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
::::The header is the only thing here that would need to be changed if this were to be done. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 01:05, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::Aside from that, we may also want to reverse the order of the numbers for each Pokémon in [[List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number]], to make the wikitext match the resulting page. I can do this if needed. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 02:38, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

== Pokémon with different forms not present in the list ==

I don't understand the criteria for Pokémon with different forms, by the type of them:

Gender differences : We do not include the forms of Indeedee, Pyroar and Meowstic, But we allow Unfezant, Frillish and Jellycent?

Different permanent forms but with the same typing: Lycanrock and Toxtricity. But it allows other permanent forms, e.g. Shellos, Gastrodont and Basculin.

Different Forms and different types: Kyurem and Necruzma. But allows Castform, Rotom, Melloeta, Hoopa, Shaymin and Oricorio.

Different Battle forms but same types: Wishiwashi, Cherrim, Landorus, Thundurus, Tornadus, Kyurem, Keldeo, Greninja, Zygarde and Minior are not included. But Deoxis and Gyratina are on the list.

No applicable to the above criteria: Unown, Arceus, Deerling, Sawsbuck, Vivillon, The Flabébé Family and Furfrou. But we do have Burmy and Wormadam and Urshifu. (I understand that the Pokémon in this las criteria have a lot of forms, and that the reason of not their including is for space and order in the page)

Can some one please explain me the criteria for allowing the different forms selection?

--Neos 10:19, April 16 2020 (UTC)
:Yeah, it does seem rather arbitrary to me.

:I think I've mentioned this above but this page is a list of Pokemon by number first and foremost. Including forms at all, imo, muddles the numbering up, at least for me. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 13:48, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

::I think we should take out the unnecessary forms --[[User:Neos|Neos]] ([[User talk:Neos|talk]]) 00:36, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

== You forgot NDex# of Galarian Slowking ==

Force Fire: You added NDex numbers for Galarian forms of Slowbro & the Legendary Birds (even if no menu sprites exist for them yet), but you forgot Galarian Slowking:
<pre>{{rdex||???|Slowking|1|???}}</pre>
Given this page is protected, I cannot change the page myself; could you please provisionally change that line to:
<pre>{{rdex||199G|Slowking|1|???}}</pre>
‐⁠‑''[[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn]]'' ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') [[User talk:SilSinn9801|💬]] 17:01, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
:Fixed --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 01:21, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
::This page needs to be edited as Galarian Slowking's type was confirmed to be Poison/Psychic like Galarian Slowbro was. [[User:Kangaflora|Kangaflora]] ([[User talk:Kangaflora|talk]]) 19:01, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

== 891-893 ==

Pokemon Home's Pokedex , after this morning's patch, seems to confirm that Kubfu, Urshifu, and Zarude are numbers 891, 892, and 893 respectively. That is all. Sorry if this text is really big for some reason.{{unsigned|Zigzagoon97}}

== (Understandable) Style Inconsistencies ==

To be consistent with the style of the page before the Crown Tundra was released, only Calyrex's base form should be present, as neither Kyurem (which, admittedly, does not change type) nor Necrozma (which does change type, and thus should be treated exactly the same way as Calyrex) have their fusion forms present on this list. Alternatively, including Necrozma's forms, and possibly Kyurem's forms, would solve this issue. [[User:MarioMiner|MarioMiner]] ([[User talk:MarioMiner|talk]]) 22:58, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
:Another style inconsistency - in the Generation IV section of the page, Heatran, Regigigas, Cresselia, Phione, Darkrai, Shaymin, and Arceus, the Gen IV Pokémon without Sinnoh Pokédex numbers, have their portions of the "Sdex" column blank. However, Meltan, Melmetal, Kubfu, Urshifu, Zarude, Regieleki, Regidrago, Glastrier, Spectrier, and Calyrex, all Pokémon that do not appear in their respective generations' regional Pokédexes, have "#---" in their regional Pokédex (Adex for Meltan and Melmetal, Gdex for the rest) columns. [[User:MarioMiner|MarioMiner]] ([[User talk:MarioMiner|talk]]) 00:06, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

== Zygarde's Forms ==
Zygard seems to be the only Pokémon currently missing alternate forms.
[[User:RomajiMiltonAmulo|RomajiMiltonAmulo]] ([[User talk:RomajiMiltonAmulo|talk]]) 01:45, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

== Legends: Arceus Pokémon ==

Are the Pokémon and Regional Forms that were shown in the new [[Pokémon Legends: Arceus]] trailer going to be added now or when the game releases? -[[User:Ratboy Jr.|Ratboy Jr.]] ([[User talk:Ratboy Jr.|talk]]) 22:40, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

== Mega Aerodactyl needs to be added. ==

A couple Megas were forgotten to be added. Could you please scout through and add them? {{unsigned|Necrozma800}}
:They are left out for a reason, Mega Evolutions are not completely new species, they are a transformed state of the same base species.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:06, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

== Legends arceus pokemon ==

We need numbers for Basculegion, wyrdeer, Kleavor, we need these pokemon added Overqwil, Enamorus, Ursaluna, and Sneasler. Dex numbers (national) are : 899 is Wyrdeer 900 is Kleavor 901 is Ursaluna 902 is Basculegion 903 is Sneasler 904 is Overqwil, 905 is Enamorus, so yeah [[User:ItsRobloxHere|ItsRobloxHere]] ([[User talk:ItsRobloxHere|talk]]) 00:24, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

== H.Goodra's typing ==

it should be Steel/Dragon, not Dragon/Steel.
[[User:Anzasquiddles|Anzasquiddles]] ([[User talk:Anzasquiddles|talk]]) 05:56, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

== Hisuian Braviary's MSP, and Origin Formes for Dialga and Palkia ==

Well, the second point is more of a question. I see there's plenty of contention on the matter of form-inclusion, but Giratina's Origin Forme is on the list so I thought I'd mention it.
[[User:Pichugetic|Pichugetic]] ([[User talk:Pichugetic|talk]]) 01:06, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

: Oh, just noticed: also Hisuian Avalugg. [[User:Pichugetic|Pichugetic]] ([[User talk:Pichugetic|talk]]) 07:31, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

== Unfezant, Frillish and Jellycent: only one entry per Pokémon? ==

For the majority of Pokémon, only the male appearence is shown. However, it does not apply for Shellos, Gastrodon, Unfezant, Frillish and Jellycent. Shellos and Gastrodon are region-based in several (all?) games, so displaying both appearances is justified, but it does not apply for Unfezant, Frillish and Jellycent. So is there something special about those 3 Pokémon that grants 2 entries for each of them in the list? [[User:Y2110|Y2110]] ([[User talk:Y2110|talk]]) 11:42, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

EDIT: Oh, it has already been discussed on this page. My bad

== 3D Sprites ==

Why have the 2D sprites been changed to the 3D Pokemon Home ones? The 3D sprites mesh horribly with the tables and lists, take up too much space, and have too much color and detail making it hard to focus on anything but the sprites themselves. I can understand wanting to upgrade but sometimes less is more especially for someone who has sensitive eyes or ADHD. There could at least be an option to select whether you what to view 2D or 3D sprites.[[User:Strawhatroger|Strawhatroger]] ([[User talk:Strawhatroger|talk]]) 16:57, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Battle Tree

2022-03-08T01:33:37Z

Strawhatroger: /* New Trainer Table Layout */ new section

I assume old generation list of banned Pokémon also applies to Battle Tree?
{| class="roundy" style="background:#505050; border:2px solid #6f6f6f; margin:auto; text-align:center"
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{MSP|150|Mewtwo}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{p|Mewtwo}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{MSP|151|Mew}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{p|Mew}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{MSP|249|Lugia}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{p|Lugia}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{MSP|250|Ho-Oh}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{p|Ho-Oh}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{MSP|251|Celebi}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{p|Celebi}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{MSP|382|Kyogre}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{p|Kyogre}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{MSP|383|Groudon}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{p|Groudon}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{MSP|384|Rayquaza}}
| style="background:#fff; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{p|Rayquaza}}
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{MSP|385|Jirachi}}
| {{p|Jirachi}}
| {{MSP|386|Deoxys}}
| {{p|Deoxys}}
| {{MSP|483|Dialga}}
| {{p|Dialga}}
| {{MSP|484|Palkia}}
| {{p|Palkia}}
| {{MSP|487|Giratina}}
| {{p|Giratina}}
| {{MSP|489|Phione}}
| {{p|Phione}}
| {{MSP|490|Manaphy}}
| {{p|Manaphy}}
| {{MSP|491|Darkrai}}
| {{p|Darkrai}}
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{MSP|492|Shaymin}}
| {{p|Shaymin}}
| {{MSP|493|Arceus}}
| {{p|Arceus}}
| {{MSP|494|Victini}}
| {{p|Victini}}
| {{MSP|643|Reshiram}}
| {{p|Reshiram}}
| {{MSP|644|Zekrom}}
| {{p|Zekrom}}
| {{MSP|646|Kyurem}}
| {{p|Kyurem}}
| {{MSP|647|Keldeo}}
| {{p|Keldeo}}
| {{MSP|648|Meloetta}}
| {{p|Meloetta}}
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{MSP|649|Genesect}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{p|Genesect}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{MSP|716|Xerneas}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{p|Xerneas}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{MSP|717|Yveltal}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{p|Yveltal}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{MSP|718|Zygarde}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{p|Zygarde}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{MSP|719|Diancie}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{p|Diancie}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{MSP|720|Hoopa}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{p|Hoopa}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{MSP|721|Volcanion}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{p|Volcanion}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{MS|Egg|Pokémon Egg}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{pkmn|Egg}}
|}

--[[User:Ddhelmet|Ddhelmet]] ([[User talk:Ddhelmet|talk]]) 10:25, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
---Never mind,I saw the Battle Tree edit.--[[User:Ddhelmet|Ddhelmet]] ([[User talk:Ddhelmet|talk]]) 10:35, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

== Anabel ==

Can Anabel show up here before you meet her during the UB Missions? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:18, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

== Mega Stones from Red for Defeating Him ==

I have a question about obtaining the Mega Stones from Red after defeating him in Battle Tree.

Can I obtain them if I defeat Red in the 20th Multi Battle (alongside Blue) or do I have to defeat him in the 20th Single Battle?
--[[User:Chrisbulb|Christian]] ([[User talk:Chrisbulb|talk]]) 17:11, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

== New Trainer Table Layout ==

I have some problems with the new table for battle facility trainer in both apperence and function. The pokemon images are too small and the streched out horizontal moveset list is hard to read especially sense the text and background color are almost the same making it difficult to read. The worst part is the excluded infromation such as a Pokemon's type, level, gender, and abilty, along with not showing a moves type and weather it's a physical, special, or status one. The old layout worked great the the Pokemon's picture on top the moveset on the bottom and the other stuff on the side, so I don't get why it was changed for something so clunky that leaves out vital information. [[User:Strawhatroger|Strawhatroger]] ([[User talk:Strawhatroger|talk]]) 01:33, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

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2022-03-07T00:10:56Z

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So I got a warning after trying to fix a post of mine after learning about unsigned comments which I still don't completly understand how to do is there any way I can fix this screw up.([[User:Strawhatroger|Strawhatroger]] ([[User talk:Strawhatroger|talk]]) 00:10, 7 March 2022 (UTC))

User talk:TehPerson

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==Samurott==

Wheres your sorce, Serebii dose not count as a sorce? [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 17:00, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

== Move variations ==

I don't know if you intend to pick up editing these again, but please be aware that moves are only considered variations if they are within 5 PP of each other. Make sure any moves you're adding meet that criteria. Even if you disagree that that should be a criteria, it is something you would need to bring up in discussion in order to get changed. Thanks. =) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:16, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
:At this time, please stop working on content regarding move variants. The staff is currently undergoing discussion regarding possible redefinition of the criteria that determines what is and is not a move variant. Thanks, - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 18:32, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

== Move power ==

Please stop creating move power navigation templates until you obtain Editorial Board approval. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 06:39, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
:Okay fine. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 06:41, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

== Sandbox ==

While it's all right to have a sandbox (heck, [[User:CycloneGU/Sandbox|I have one myself]], please refrain from making a lot of edits to it. Your sandbox is still within userspace and is subject to the [[Bulbapedia:Userspace policy|userspace policy]], which generally stipulates three userspace edits per day provided you contribute at least four edits a day to mainspace. Exceptions can be made for pages being prepared for mainspace (as generally proposing new pages should be done via userspace), but the sandbox area usually does not qualify for exceptions. Use the preview button where possible when making sandbox edits instead of immediately saving, then [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User%3ATehPerson%2FSandbox&type=revision&diff=2308758&oldid=2308748 immediately changing them again]]. Also, note that I have several different projects in the same single Sandbox page by using section headers like in a normal article; this is instead of using several different pages as you have. There's nothing wrong with multiple sandboxes as far as I'm aware, it's just an idea I'm passing along so you have a single place for everything you're working on. =)

These are merely suggestions to help you out, so I hope they are helpful! [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 07:19, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
::I know I know. I used Show Preview to minimize edits, and tried to limit them to 3, but sometimes you gotta publish it to see how it affects another page. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 07:41, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Yeah, that's the difficulty with templates in userspace. You have to save it too see what happens. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 17:01, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

== Recent block ==

I saw recently that you were blocked for being "insubordinate" in editing Ability variations, when you had only been told about move variations. Now, if you don't care about that little mess at all (or if perhaps you've already resolved it elsewhere), feel free to skip the rest of this.

Anyway, I kind of took it upon myself (presumptively, perhaps) to alert {{u|Kogoro}} about her mistake so that she might undo it sooner rather than later. I kept after it too, but I am now told that it's not my concern since I wasn't the one blocked. I understand that logic, but I also kind of think it's a bit of a cheat. IMHO it's not too much to ask for a simple acknowledgement of the mistake. (In short—and I know this may sound a little silly—I just want to know that Bulbapedia's not somehow okay with such a mistake.) So, I thought I'd ask you if you'd like to raise that issue on your own behalf? If you just wish to chime in where I've already tried asking, that's [[User talk:Kogoro#TehPerson's block|here]].

If one way or another you just don't care about this, then I'm sorry for wasting your time. =) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:54, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your concern. While I do agree with you, I feel that doing so would only result in more harm than help. Looking at your conversation, it is clear Kogoro does not wish to discuss the issue, and even more so to admitting a careless mistake. Although I have considered bringing it up, I feel that at best I'll get a passive-aggressive apology with a reprimand attached.

Anyways, thank you for standing up for what's right. Much appreciated! [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 00:10, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

== Templates ==

Next time you create a template, please either create it in your userspace and tag with a {{template|mainspace}} tag or ask a staff member, preferably an Editorial Board member, if it is needed. I will be moving [[User:TehPerson/MovePower|your MovePower template]] to your userspace. Thank you for your time, and sorry for any inconveniences. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 03:04, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
:Again, templates must be made in the userspace and then be approved by the Editorial Board before put in the mainspace. [[User:Glik|glik]][[User talk:Glik|glak]] 02:11, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
::Well, you're welcome anyways. The new list at least exist in the history for future reference :) [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 02:20, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

== The Preview Button ==
Instead of editing a page several times in a row, try using the preview button to make sure your edit looks the way you want it to. It's right next to the Save Page button. Please try it out, so as not to clog up the Recent Changes. Also, if you want to edit multiple sections of the page, make sure that you click "edit this page" at the top of the page rather than editing it by section. Thanks! --[[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 16:48, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

== New pages/notability ==

You've made a few new pages recently, and I'd like to inform you, as a rule, new pages ''should'' be made in the userspace first and then brought to staff's attention for mainspacing. (This is mainly done by using the {{template|mainspace}} tag, but if you want to ask an appropriate staff member about a page directly, you can also do that.) The two pages you made for Battle Maison info have turned out alright and we've more or less let them slide, but your latest page is a perfect example of why that rule exists and the "risk" when it's ignored.

Regarding Battle Maison Trainer quotes, you should understand that we don't care about any and all quotes here, we only care about ''major'', notable characters, not a bunch of random Trainers. I've moved your page to your userspace for now. Thanks for understanding [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:58, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

== Major changes ==

When you're adding something entirely new, like the Maison/etc Pokemon pages you created, it's fine if you want to try to present the information in a new/unique format. However, any major change to an ''existing'' format (particularly templates, or any format that touches multiple pages) should ''always'' be discussed first. And something like your edit to [[Template:SubwayPartner]] was absolutely a major change. Please try to keep this in mind in the future. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:32, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
: Apologies for the trouble. Though keeping things in mind... I post a creative change to old articles that most people don't read anymore. Nobody reads them, idea gets buried. But I go ahead and post it, get a slap on the wrist, but the content still stays because everyone knows it doesn't make sense to revert it. Again, sorry for stress, but you have to admit that the old format wasn't intended for entire team rosters. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 07:57, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
::If you need a response to something, talk to a staff member.
::Please don't assume you're always justified (or always will be). A couple of your pages stayed, sure. The Battle Maison Trainer quotes absolutely did not, though. And, personally, I don't think a straight substitution of the SubwayPartner template was a great solution. (In short, pretty much: that's a '''''very''''' nonstandard format to see on character pages, so (IMO) it doesn't belong there the same way the party format did. I'll try to address it soon-ish.) You're not infallible. And you won't be. That's pretty impossible for most people. (I absolutely count myself among that number, too.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:31, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

== Conditions/Contest moves ==

Hi! Tables with lots of coding should be implemented with templates to save space. Please don't add huge, hard-coded tables—especially if you were only doing that because you couldn't easily create a template for it yourself.

Also, FYI there's actually a sort of solution [[User talk:Kogoro/Movelist/newcontest|already in the works]] (it may change to some degree before it's implemented). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:11, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
:This is kind of related, so I'll put it here instead of making a new section...
:Can you do me a favor and not update more pages like you did [[List of Battle Maison Pokémon]] to add the colors and stuff? At that point, a template absolutely becomes preferable. I've [[User:Tiddlywinks/Lop/Battlearea|made one]] already and will see about it getting mainspaced.
:If there are any other particularly needful improvements, it might be best to think of them now. (I don't mean that you should ''implement'' them, hard-coded, on a whole table, though.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:28, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

== Battle Frontier (Generation III) ==

Dude, can you make a list with the Pokémon on the Hoenn's Battle Frontier check this list:

http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/content/pokemon-emerald-battle-frontier-in-depth.html

Funny, in Gen VI is same data of the Gen V, in a Pokémon like Venusaur, 1st class, Pokémon, no Banette or Crawdaunt. --[[User:HoopsterJohn|HoopsterJohn]] ([[User talk:HoopsterJohn|talk]]) 04:05, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

:Website is dead and all information regarding RS Battle Tower Pokémon and Trainers is gone. https://web.archive.org/web/20170804102059/http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/content/pokemon-emerald-battle-frontier-in-depth.html
Someone should have added missing info on RS and E Battle Tower/Frontier teams sooner.[[User:Blob55|Blob55]] ([[User talk:Blob55|talk]]) 17:50, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

== [[List of Battle Maison Trainers]] ==

Out of curiosity, can you tell me how you got the information for the Battle Maison Trainers? I've been poring over the page for a bit, and some of the Trainers seem fairly weird to me. Like Manuel, with those special additions in addition to the type groups (why aren't Flygon/Empoleon/Floatzel part of some group?). And especially Azure and Claus/etc, with Regirock/Lati@s coming from sets 1 and 2 and the rest of the team from set 4, when all the other teams have uniform set possibilities for their whole team. (Perhaps... Are Flygon/Empoleon/Floatzel and Regirock and Lati@s maybe randomly inserted into the last (or some single) slot on the Trainer's team or something? I.e., is it possible for Manuel to have both Flygon and Empoleon on his team, or Flygon and Empoleon and Floatzel?)

Also, what in the world is "Water, Grass and Fire '''''old'''''" for the Tier 2 Super {{tc|Chef}}s? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:16, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Oh yeah, thanks for pointing out the ambiguities. I wasn't sure if there was a better way to represent the Trainer's Pokemon data.

Basically the Pokemon Groups represents all the Pokemon that can possibly be used by a Trainer. All the algorithm does is select ''n'' Pokemon from that roster at random, ''n'' being the required number of Pokemon for a challenge. The Battle Chatelaines have fixed teams because their rosters only contain ''n'' Pokemon - the order therefore can still be different.

Basically, all the roster for an Ace Trainer is that of a generic team plus Lati@s (depending on the Ace Trainer's gender). That's why you sometimes see Lati@s if you battle Ace Trainers. Artist Azure is like that but with Regirock (sets 1 and 2) and a Rock/Steel/Ground roster. Though meeting said Regirock is still pretty rare. I've only encountered the non-Veteran's Regirock once. Also, "old" means "Gen (I-V)". Tier-2 chefs don't use Kalos Pokemon. A correction I keep forgetting to make :\

Not really sure why low-tier Skaters use Flygon/Empoleon/Floatzel. I've personally encountered that as well. All I notice is that they all know Aqua Jet or Quick Attack, so maybe it's a priority thing- since Skaters are into speed.

And to answer why the legendaries only come from set 1 and 2, my best answer is that because the way Sets are treated for Legendaries is not the same as other Pokemon. For most Pokemon, you see their set 1 versions at lower-streak battles and they gradually shift towards set 4. Legendaries all start appearing after battle 40, when Pokemon have already been using Set 4 for a while. Notice that all tier-VI Trainers use Set 4 Pokemon for non-Legendaries, but the sets for Legendaries still vary. I guess it was just an arbitrary decision to have Sets 1 and 2 made available for non-Veterans.

Let me know if you have any ideas on how to better represent the data. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 05:00, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

:So does this all just come purely from observation/massive "trial and error" at the Battle Maison and Battle Institute? (That's quite a feat, if so.) I'll have to think for a while about what you've said and what is (or should be) on the pages. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:32, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

::No, I believe this was datamined from the game by Smogon- like how everyone else gets this information. Pretty much get raw data with a list of Trainers and a list of their Pokemon, and it's up to us to sort what sort of team is what. The guys at Smogon thought it would be a good idea to have the information consolidated here, where it can be viewed neatly. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 05:56, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
:::Can you link me where that data was released or whatever? Looking at it fresh, in a more raw or basic format, might help me get some ideas or understand some things better. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:05, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

::::[http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/BattleMaisonTrainers.txt List of Trainers]
::::[http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/BattleMaisonData.txt List of Pokemon]
::::Most lists aren't actually this nice looking. For the Battle Subway, a list of Trainers' Pokemon would be given by the Pokemon's Subway-specific id, and then cross-referenced from there. The seemingly-arbitrary ID number for the Pokemon actually play a role determining the tier, set, etc, but low-level detail like that I thought could be excluded here. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 06:13, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::I like low-level detail. =3 That low-level detail, are you talking about other pages at that site? If so, I think I mostly found them through Google.
:::::I was kind of fearing that's what the data looked like raw... You may be mostly right with the pages for Maison data (and others) you created, but I'm gonna mull over it all for myself some more anyway. ;) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:25, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

*Dude, you're awesome a give me a favor can you make me a list of the Battle Maison trainer in my native language Spanish, i want know the name in the Spanish version, please, if you can. --[[User:HoopsterJohn|HoopsterJohn]] ([[User talk:HoopsterJohn|talk]]) 20:50, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

*Thank you very much dude, you're the best, these name are the same in XY and ORAS unlike in English language have different one between these games. --[[User:HoopsterJohn|HoopsterJohn]] ([[User talk:HoopsterJohn|talk]]) 21:26, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

FYI, going from the links you gave above, I caught some errors on the Maison Trainer/Pokemon pages you made. (If I identify a Trainer below, any other Trainers that used the same roster also had the same mistake.)
* Set2 Porygon2 is not in the Hail group.
* Delphox/Greninja/Golurk are never in the Psychic/Dark/Ghost groups (respectively).
* Lucetta is not Set 4 Water+Ice, she's Set 4 Dark+Fairy+Normal.
* Bight also uses Ground Pokemon.
* Anastasia only uses Group C/D Psychic types.
I noticed you creating [[User:TehPerson/List of battle area Trainers (Generation VI)/1]], so I thought it would be best to let you know so you could correct any errors you have. I did see that on that page you apparently didn't include Greninja in the Poison/Dark table, though you did include it in the Dark table on [[List of Battle Maison Trainers]], so I don't know if they're more or less randomly introduced errors or what, though. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:05, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
: Oh, thanks for catching those errors! Sometimes my speadsheet bugs up a bit on me :\ [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 04:19, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
: I've come to realize that categorizing the Pokemon isn't the best way to represent Trainer teams. Might as well just do a table for each. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 07:58, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
::I'm just a bit torn about that. Between the two options, I kind of barely favor your new approach.
::The original approach requires a lot of user action to figure out what they want to know. Compared to the new approach, the only thing it's especially useful for is if people want to know the whole list to remix the Trainers' rosters for a game hack. The problem with the new approach, though, is that it can be incredibly repetitive. I mean, you've got tables for Groups A/B and C/D, but then also B/C which overlaps half of each of those, and then type groups which overlap again... The complete straightforwardness of it is the narrowest deciding factor for me. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:58, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

== Talk page responses ==

Please try to keep talk page discussions in one place. If someone replies to your talk page, respond there first, not on their talk page. If you feel they're not noticing after a while, ''then'' you can post something on their talk page (a link back to your talk page might be best, just so, again, the whole conversation remains in one place), but we can't have two sides of a conversation playing out on two separate talk pages like is developing above... That's just ridiculous. Please try to keep it where it started.

Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:36, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
: Oh okay, mods in different wikis, sonetimes even in the same wiki, use different conventions. Did not know if any standards exist here. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 21:47, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

== Battle Masion Trainer classes ==

There are probably a handful of reasons that adding battle area Trainers to the Trainer class pages probably isn't a good idea, but the simplest way to put it is that what you're adding is huge, complicated, and sort of pointless. If you really want to add them, it can be discussed, but in the meantime, please do not keep adding this sort of thing to the TC pages. Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:53, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

== Spanish Pokémon Sun and Moon game text, ==

Hi, man, please can you bring me in txt archive the game text from Pokémon Sun and Moon in spanish language, it's because i want to find a specific name in Alola, can you do it? please. --[[User:HoopsterJohn|HoopsterJohn]] ([[User talk:HoopsterJohn|talk]]) 02:32, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

https://projectpokemon.org/research/sunmoon/gametext.txt this but in spanish language. --[[User:HoopsterJohn|HoopsterJohn]] ([[User talk:HoopsterJohn|talk]]) 04:18, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

== Battle Royal ==

Hey TehPerson! I've noticed the new Battle Royal pages you've been working on recently. Is there any reason why it's not in a table format like [[List of Battle Maison Pokémon]] you also helped to make? Just wondering because I think the table format is much nicer (and keep up the good work) :) --[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(토크)''']] 07:13, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

I figured I'll just stick with the templates we already have to keep it practical. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 05:20, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

== Formatting ==

I must say, I'm very impressed by your extensive lists of Pokémon in various battle facilities. However, I've also noticed something you've been doing wrong: formatting. You use the [[Generation VI]] formatting on moves and items that had had their names written a different way to save character space before that. For example, Dynamic Punch as DynamicPunch, Never-Melt Ice as NeverMeltIce, and so forth. However, these facilities you're making Pokémon lists out of were in games BEFORE this happened, and as such, are written incorrectly for the games they were in. Just wanted to point that put for you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:06, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Oh, that actually is done on purpose since the spreadsheet I'm using only has one type of spelling. I don't manually enter in all these values- it's mostly automated. If you want to help with changing the spelling back, that would be appreciated- but I don't have a complete list of all moves/items that had spelling changes. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 05:19, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

:For moves, the list of changed names can be found {{DL|List of modified moves|Name changes|here}}. As for items... Well, I don't think there are too many of them. TwistedSpoon, NeverMeltIce... The item pages do note if the name of the item has ever been altered. I'll probably get around to helping with fixing this at some point, but I'm not sure when I'll have the time to do it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:35, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

== Pokemon with Hidden Abilities ==

When we have two other pages already for [[List of Pokémon with released Hidden Abilities (Generation V)]] and [[List of Pokémon with released Hidden Abilities (Generation VI)]], please follow that convention as exactly as possible. Either you should have created the Gen VII page at "List of Pokémon with released Hidden Abilities (Generation VII)" in the first place, or when you [[Special:Diff/2654726|went to edit]] the Ability page and saw the existing/uncreated Gen VII link and noticed yours was different, you should have moved your page to the right name.

Additionally, the order you used on your page has, for instance, {{p|Cleffa}} in the Johto section, whereas in the previous generations' pages, Cleffa is with {{p|Clefairy}} in the Kanto section.

Please try to keep these sorts of things in mind in the future. Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:54, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

== USUM Quotes ==

Hi. I just wanted to ask if you're doing the quotes and saving them in each articles one by one? I have actually completed all the quotes for every named NPCs in USUM. Because I'm left with Molayne before I saved everything. Also, the quotes are to be done in storyline order and not in location order. Finally, all answer quotes are to be done with the Options of answers bolded and not by asterisk. Thanks. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 21:40, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

: Storyline order would make way more sense for quotes. As for the other questions, I just referred to other articles to see what the current conventions are. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 21:44, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

== Battle Frontier ==

You have a history of making major changes without approval. I'm going to start here by generally reiterating that if you want to make any major change, please ask someone on {{bp|staff}} about it.

As far as the Battle Frontier pages go, splitting pages are decisions to be made by the {{bp|Editorial Board}}. You must get approval from {{bp|staff}} before splitting pages, you cannot just do it when you think you're ready. For the Gen III one, you may have thought you had permission after SnorlaxMonster's response to you on the talk page (and I'm not sure at the moment what he necessarily intended), but as far as I can tell you did not have even a hint at permission to split the Gen IV page.

Additionally, when you have userpages mocking up a page for the mainspace, do not just copy that code and edit it into the mainspace article. If there's a userpage, it should be ''moved'' into the mainspace with the wiki's move function. If you're not able to do this, then ask a {{bp|staff}} member for help. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:34, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

== Removing class links ==

While I greatly appreciate you uploading us VS models from the Let's Go games, while adding them to pages, please stop removing class links from Pokémon Trainers and Gym Leaders. Without those, their Trainer class links will wind up as redirect links. Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:51, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

== Quotes ==

When adding quotes, instead of leaving them incomplete, please use a text dump and/or YouTube videos to add all of them at once instead of in bits. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:49, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
:If you'd like to help, that would be much appreciated. But I do not have the text dump and cannot find them. Nor do I have my Switch with me at the time. In short, "I would if I could, but I can't so I shan't." [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 22:20, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

== Eggs ==

What was the point of [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_Egg&curid=9520&diff=2914481&oldid=2914421 this] edit? It seems to just make a ton more white space at first glance, but I think you were trying to separate them somehow but I can't tell how. However, in all honestly that list needs a serious overhaul its a mess. There should be a way to organize the information for what Pokémon are in what egg, and when they were available in that type of egg. A list of currently and previously doesn't help anybody since someone could have eggs from 2017 still. Not sure if you were trying to separate them somehow by availability, but there has to be a better way to organize it. '''[[User:Lady Ariel|Lady]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|Ariel]]''' 00:00, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
:I noticed the previous iteration had it separated by generation, and I forgot to do half of that when I updated the list in a slight rush, looking back. So half the cells had a break every 15, and the other had a break between generations, and it was inconsistent. If you want, I can just have it broken up so that there's a line break every X entries. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 00:10, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
::I think in general the entire table should be reformatted to list the dates, the Pokémon, and egg distance they are in. And like the Field Research page, probably use a gray background for ones that are current. Currently the entire section makes little sense as to what was in the eggs at any given time. '''[[User:Lady Ariel|Lady]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|Ariel]]''' 00:28, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
:::I agree on that too, since egg lists are constantly being updated like Raids. However, I currently don't have the entire history of eggs on hand, so it'll be quite a task for me do myself. I also want to include mention on possible Stardust/Candy yields from hatching each egg, but keep getting inconsistent information from source to source. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 00:39, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
::::If you can actually get the entire history of Eggs, I'd be very interested to know it. I'm really not a fan of having "current" and "old" in the same table for Eggs anyway. I think all current hatchables should have their own table (and pure minisprites isn't my favorite either), and old hatches should be dealt with in some separate fashion. Knowing the entire history would help know what kind of format could best show all necessary information. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:46, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
:::::I think the candy and Stardust from each hatched egg is pretty dependent on how strong the Pokémon is when it hatches. Quite a bit of the history of the egg hatches is mentioned on the page, in a very messy format. The others are pretty well documented by users and other sites. As for the minisprites, I think using the images of them from Pokémon GO would be a much better alternative. Even if we left some information as blank for now, that would signal for other users to help contribute what they can. '''[[User:Lady Ariel|Lady]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|Ariel]]''' 01:04, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
::::::[https://www.serebii.net/pokemongo/eggs.shtml Serebii has a page] that documents the history of eggs throughout updates, but it's kinda sloppy and appears to include eggs that may no longer be available in its tables for newer updates. I've been reading sources that Candy given depends on the amount of Stardust, and Power Up level of hatched Pokémon now depend strictly on the Trainer's level at the time of receiving eggs. Niantic updates the game pretty fast, so it's hard to keep track of which sources are still relevant. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 01:09, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
:::::::From what I have been told, [https://thesilphroad.com/egg-distances] this is one of the better sites to check for information. I don't think they have the old hatches documented anywhere on their site, but the [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/ Reddit] posts for them likely have them somewhere. '''[[User:Lady Ariel|Lady]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|Ariel]]''' 01:18, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
::::::::Serebii is at least still 90% accurate and more organized with legacy information. I can get started on a spreadsheet using Serebii's information, then corroborate it with that from /r/TheSilphRoad. As far as I see so far, Serebii's tables include all the eggs, but also includes eggs that shouldn't be there. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 01:22, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::I think that will work. Normally we don't like using Serebii's information, but as long as we can verify it with other source(s) then its usually fine. '''[[User:Lady Ariel|Lady]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|Ariel]]''' 01:26, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
::::::::::If there are other sources, use those. Do not steal from Serebii. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:04, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::::Trust but verify. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 03:19, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
::::::::::::That sounds too glib for me to be sure you understand. Are you going to use any information that we would only find on Serebii? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:31, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::::::I already see too many inconsistencies in the most recent page to trust that. My intention is to compare the results to update notices on SilphRoad and other GO-related sources. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 03:49, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

By the way, I don't know if you took my initial comment as purely rhetorical...but I meant just what I said. If you have gathered info on all Egg "sets", I would appreciate if you would lay that out. I do not really think that just noting species as previously available with no distinctions is the best way. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:04, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
:The info I have isn't complete. If I were to let's say, add a column to the table noting dates of availability, it would only be 40% complete. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 15:00, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
::Let me be even more explicit. When I say I'm interested in the data...honestly, I'm not looking for the final product that you synthesize from that data. To try to make up an example, if Bulbasaur was in 2k Eggs in January and February, but Charmander was in 2k Eggs in January but in 5k in February, if your final product would say "Jan-Feb" for Bulbasaur, it would be hard to tease out that that spans two different sets of Eggs (or to put it another way, that Bulbasaur's change in March was a third set, not just a second).
::So, what I would like to know is, in short, every full Egg set and their dates. That way I can examine it and try to think about what I think might make a good solution—whether whatever you may try is okay or whether there may be a better option. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:50, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Can I get an explicit acknowledgement of whether you intend to display the full data you're gathering, like I mentioned above? (I just don't want to wait for weeks only to ask then and find out you moved on long ago.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:06, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
:Final product may look like what it already does on the List of Eggs page, just more complete. (eg 2 Km available jun to nov 2016, etc) Probably going to chip away at it as time goes by, since Egg data being as dynamic as it is, isn't as easy to gather all at once. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 01:25, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

I guess it's been a while, so I'd just like to poke you again and ask if you're still working on the data. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:09, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
:Since this^ was easy to miss... [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:55, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

== Templates, again ==

You've been told a couple times [[#Templates|above]] to make templates in your userspace first and ask for approval. Please respect this request. If you make us keep cleaning up templates we don't want, you may face a block for insubordination. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:56, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
:k [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 21:50, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

== GO availability ==
I'd like to suggest a bit of a project regarding GO to you. I previously wanted to add a GO availability on species pages—things like "nestable", "hatchable only", "raids only", "research only" (and that's not exhaustive). However, this idea was not supported. A part of me has thought of making a dedicated page listing this sort of availability for all species, but I haven't had the time. Would you be interested in making a userpage? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:09, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
:Oh, I'm actually working on one right now. Currently still on a spreadsheet, but for starters, would include the initial release date and a "notes" column denoting stuff like regional exclusivity, egg only, etc. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 20:40, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
::I made a preliminary version [[User:TehPerson/List of Pokémon by availability (GO)|here]]. Feel free to play around with it, fill in any holes, etc. As for the Egg data, I was only able to get a limited amount using web archives, so at the moment, I'm going to focus on tasks I know can be finished short term. I can still share the spreadsheet I have, but it's messy and incomplete at best. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 22:04, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

== Pokémon Go ==

I responded to your split proposal at [[Talk:Pokémon GO#Page Splitting]]. Since you started that discussion in February and no one else has commented, I would say be [[wp:WP:BOLD|BOLD]] and <del>just make the split yourself</del> <ins>mainspace your draft pages as soon as you feel comfortable doing so</ins>. [[User:Qzekrom|Qzekrom]] ([[User talk:Qzekrom|talk]]) 04:26, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

== Pages ==

Can you let me do the rest? [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 23:32, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

== G-Max base moves ==

For signature G-Max Moves, should it be noted which base moves the Pokémon knowing the G-Max Move cannot learn and thus never legitimately use as base moves? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:31, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
: I guess if you want to it would be helpful to have that info on there, but for now I'm just copy-pasting the info from the Max Moves' pages just so the page has some degree of completion. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 16:35, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
::Once you've done that, can you help with adding the notifications? Also, I'm looking forward to you uploading more VS models from Sword and Shield. Especially the Breeder ones. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:38, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

== Dens ==

Can you explain where the information about the Pokemon in the dens comes from, as well as how the mechanics like rates and common/rare were found or where they were explained? Some of it is far from clear to me just based on the tables you've added to [[Dappled Grove]]. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:45, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
: [https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/pokemon-sword-and-shield-datamine-thread.3656143/ Here]. The rate is basically the % of encountering each species given a specific difficulty level (difficulty rates vary depending on Gym badges). It might not sound so intuitive at first to you, but for people who've spent hours hunting Max Raids, the rates are very self explanatory. The rare dens have a ~10% chance of spawning each time-you can test this with the soft-reset trick with Wishing Pieces. Let me know if you want to help out with doing the rest. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 22:00, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
::The problem is, most of our users really aren't "people who've spent hours hunting Max Raids". =P
::I'll try to look over it and figure out how we can be more user-friendly here. One quick question: are the "rare" raids perhaps the special ones with the purple beam of light? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:42, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
:::Yes. To be analogous, you can treat the "★★★" dividers the same as you would for the weather conditions shown in the other encounter tables on the same page. The den, depending on your number of badges, will:
:::1. Pick a common (red light, red background) or rare (purple light, yellow background) pool
:::2. Pick a difficulty (1 to 5 stars) - distribution greatly varies depending on # of badges; and there's currently no complete knowledge of what the rates are
:::3. Then use those encounter % values to pick a species
:::Imo you probably won't be able to find a more user-friendly way of displaying this unless it's just adding an explanation to the top. [https://www.serebii.net/swordshield/maxraidbattles/den6.shtml Serebii's way of displaying rates] makes no intuitive sense (it looks like a Drifloon has a 20% chance of being 2-star and a 30% chance of being 3-star; in reality it's the other way around- 2-star has 20% chance of Drifloon and 3-star has 30% chance...)
:::And to further condense the information, you may notice a lot of redundant listings (e.g. a "Sword-exclusive" Onix at 20% and a "Shield-exclusive" Onix at 20% on the same table); that can ofc be done away with later, but I want to get the basic info on there first. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 02:57, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
::::The data you've added doesn't seem to line up with the dumped data ([https://pastebin.com/C1bcXHcS Sword], [https://pastebin.com/AfWZ6wz4 Shield]), at least in the couple of cases I checked.
::::For example, on [[Dappled Grove]], you listed Budew as appearing in 35% of 1★ Raids, where it is between levels 15-20. In the dumped data, while all 4 of the Budew raids occur for 35% of 1★ Raids at their respective Dens, it instead appears between level 25-30. In fact, the dumped data doesn't include any raids for level 15-20.
::::Of course, this doesn't align with my own in-game experience. For example, I have a Sizzlipede that I caught in a rare raid (purple pillar) in the [[Rolling Fields]] at Level 17 in Pokémon Shield, but the dumped data indicates that all Sizzlipede are level 25-30. (It's also worth noting that your list of Dens on the Rolling Fields page doesn't include Sizzlipede in any Max Raid Battle.)
::::So the levels in the dumped data appear to be incorrect. Do you know if they're just a case of being off by a constant, or are they just not used at all? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:44, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::That data was imo hard to decipher and it took me a while to understand it before I was able to parse it properly. Basically:
:::::* Ignore the "1-star, 2-star" in front of each Pokemon's name. That's also where they derived the level. The actual star is the "1-star desired, etc" fields. Good chance these errors are there because of the way the dataminers parsed and deciphered the raw data. It also implies the TR rewards for each Raid, regardless of difficulty is the same, even though that's empirically false.
:::::* Personal experience also tells me (outside of Wild Area News) level is dictated by difficulty. There's also the fact that newer players may see their levels scaled down from higher difficulty raids, but I know nothing of the mechanics regarding that.
:::::* Can't say much about the Sizzlipede from Rolling Fields, other than the fact that Sizzlipede can only come from Fire-type pools. Are you able to re-verify which Den in Rolling Fields has Fire-types?
:::::[[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 17:02, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
::::::I really haven't done this much, but there appear to be [https://pastebin.com/u/SciresM updates] that happen to have level 17 Sizzlipede, so that could be where it came from. I noticed Pokewiki has something others don't, but [[:de:Naturzone|I don't really know what that is]]. Levels per stars seems to make sense. Also, SnorlaxMonster's userpages appear to be buggy (see Ditto rates). Not really into it (yet), but is it possible that the levels just upgrade once you defeat Eternatus, much like regular encounter Pokémon do? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:09, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Oh right! I totally forgot that Wild Area News allows Sizzlipede to spawn in all Dens for Shield. I've been meaning to make similar rate tables for the various Wild Area News events later on. However, Wild Area News spawns always have the red light, not purple... so I'm not sure if that quite addresses SnorlaxMonster's issue. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 17:37, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
::::::::Hmm, maybe I'm misremembering the purple pillar for Sizzlipede. It's easy for me to confirm where it was caught and what level it was caught at, but the type of pillar that it came from was purely from memory.
::::::::Regarding the Star ratings, that it's solely based on the "Desired" values is basically what I figured. And yes, my experience is also that levels depend on the star rating of the raid.
::::::::Looking at the Ditto rates in [[User:SnorlaxMonster/Raids#Den 26|my tables]], it looks like it's just a case where the code I used to generate those tables assumed that there weren't any cases of two different entries for a raid at the same Den with the same name (i.e. including the "X-Star" part of the raid name). In the actual source data, the rates do sum to 100%.
::::::::For level scaling, my guess would simply be that players who don't have all of the Badges would have a high-level Raid Boss scaled down to their maximum catchable level. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:20, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::It does seem your table looks more compact than the ones I put on the mainspaces. I think if level is the only issue, then it can just be excluded, and mention on the [[Max Raid Battle]] page that Stars determine level- after all, understanding how Stars translate to level would just make listing levels redundant. The only exception would be ofc the [[Wild Area News]] raids, which have their own fixed levels. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 17:01, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps my initial request was unclear, but I've read the Smogon link now and it didn't answer my questions at all.

I was hoping to know:
# How/Where you got the information about which Pokemon are in which dens
# How/Where you got the information about how the raids are generated (star level, rates for possible occupants, etc)
Generally, I'd appreciate if you could be as specific as possible. That particularly includes links (like not just giving me the start of another thread where the relevant post may be I-have-no-idea-where in dozens upon dozens of pages, please =P ). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:37, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
:I see you were active somewhat. Can you please answer? If there's no answer, we have to doubt the data. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:44, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
::I have it on one of my spreadsheets, and I ''think'' it's from [https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonSwordAndShield/comments/dz88r6/wild_area_den_number_map_version_20/ here], which cites a couple sources that seem to corroborate each other. (One's in Japanese so I don't know if it's circular reporting.) There was another source on the same subreddit linked [https://game8.co/games/pokemon-sword-shield/archives/273708#hl_2 here] (I can't find the original thread with the fancy, corresponding spreadsheet). IIRC the last source labels the Dens in a different order, but when cross-referenced they all match - for these conventions I deferred to Serebii's because that's the one sourced the most right now. The fact that at least 2 sources using 2 different naming conventions but resulting in the same data indicates that the sources at least aren't circularly confirmed. (And from personal experience, the Dens all seem to match (From memory, I can personally confirm all the ones in Bridge Field and the ones with GMax Spawns). But if you need to trial-and-error all of them with Wishing Pieces before mainspacing, that's fine too, but I'm 90+% sure you won't get anything different. Though if you do want to work on that first, I may need to rewrite the script to remove the redundant listings anyways. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 01:14, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
:::I'm going to look through those links (a little quicker this time), but first things first: just don't, ever, take anything at all from Serebii. Just nothing. Make up something sensible instead. (I kinda sorta don't even look at Serebii myself.) The short version is, we do not at all want to have any room to be accused of taking anything at all from Serebii.
:::Just for now, from the briefest check of the links...I would generally advise that the game8.co link is probably also not something we should just take from. In short: if it's not a crowd-sourced kind of site (roughly speaking, by users for users), you should probably ask permission before using their info (without adding a citation, anyway; there are certainly places where we cite other sites for detailed mechanics). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:21, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
{{indent}}OK... The Reddit page says the user took everything from Serebii and that "wiki" (which doesn't look like an actual wiki as far as I can tell). Taking info from Serebii means that's right out. Putting that aside for a moment or two...

I tried looking again at [https://pastebin.com/AfWZ6wz4 the raid data from Kaphotics]. I looked for a Gigantamax Pokemon and found {{p|Charizard}}'s nest, and found that on [[Lake of Outrage]]. I think I can get where the "Rare" den list comes from. But I'm quite mystified about the "Common" list. Can you please explain to me how you got the data for the "common" list for [[Lake of Outrage#Den C]]? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:06, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
:Not sure if this fully answers the question, but basically a "Common" raid is anything with the red light. If it's anything from the [[Wild Area News]] pool, which is always red, 90%+ chance it's from News and not the native Den. As for getting the "common" list, it's the exact same way I got the rare one. I copied the entire pastebin file onto a spreadsheet, used some scripts/formulas, and parsed them into BP templates. For both the Shield and Sword files, Nest 1 - 42 are all common and 43+ are all rare (in the order which they appear on the pastebin). And if you want to sample multiple raids to make sure it's the right pool (since many pools share a few Pokemon in common), you can use that [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdPRbS-HwSc clock reset] trick to reroll a different Pokemon (which only works if you use a Wishing Piece, otherwise the raid may just despawn). [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 21:03, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
::Are you saying that each Nest ID in Kaphotics' data does not correspond to exactly 1 den?
::I noticed that there are 100 dens and 93 Nest IDs, but I wasn't sure what to think besides go crazy. But if some of those Nest IDs are common lists and some rare—and some of the dens use the same list for one thing or another—then it could make sense. (Theoretically, I suppose one Nest ID could be the common set for one den and rare for another...)
::The "desired" part under the selection probabilities has always made me think there's something particularly special about it, and that there must be a more plain "non-desired" mechanic or something, but if I just ignore the word "desired" and treat the selection probabilities like simple pieces of the puzzle for an encounter table (that may apply to "common" or "rare" selections...unrelated to anything directly in Kaphotics' file, at least), it probably can be applied to all the Wild Area dens.
::...The problem remains that we can't use all the data built off of Serebii's data. I'm going to attempt to correlate Kaphotic's data from the ground up. For the meantime, the raid data will have to be removed. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:10, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

== PoGo information ==

I deleted the pages you tagged, but in case we decide to expand our Go information (which we should), I may want to bring some of those back, or at least tag you in to assist the project. The information looked good. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:57, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

== Wyndon Stadium split ==

I'm grateful that you split the Wyndon Stadium article. It was in need of that. But I would also like to mention that I had already brought this split idea up with Force Fire, who was waiting for a staff decision before doing it, and I was waiting for his reply on the matter. Did you get a permission to do the split? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:34, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
:No, but considering I was the one who originally created that article, lack of foresight on my part was the reason why it was so huge in the first place. I pretty much figured common sense would warrant splitting it rather than go through the administrative bottleneck. But if it's really that big of a deal, then in hindsight, it would have made more sense had I just made it a split from the start. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 14:06, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

== Contest data list ==

Hey, I was hoping maybe you would like to have a look at [[Talk:List of moves]]? I noticed that some years ago, you did some work related to contests. It seems like there used to be a dedicated userpage of yours (User:TehPerson/List of Contest moves) that was [[Special:Permalink/2427162|this list]]? Is that data correct ORAS data? Why was that userpage deleted? (Is there something that's better?) If you could help, I guess that would.. help. Thanks. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 20:05, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
: Was simply not needed anymore. Before, there was absolutely no list of moves by their contest effects in ORAS. Now the individual condition pages (e.g. [[Cool_(condition)#Hoenn_Contest_Spectaculars|see here]]) have pretty organized sections on relevant moves grouped by their contest effects. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 21:04, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
::Interesting, I didn't know.
::Well, I guess I'm gonna use those, then. Those and maybe what [[Jamming]] has.
::Anyway, by that logic, wouldn't [[List of moves]] be unneeded because moves are listed [[Normal (type)#Moves|at type pages]], or even at [[Physical move#List of moves|move category pages]]?
::I'm actually considering basically recreating your userpage, and whether I want to propose its mainspacing. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 21:39, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Yeah okay. Feel free to move [[User:TehPerson/Sandbox|the template I made]] to your userpage first, since it's so improperly named, as it's one of the first userspace templates I made, and I won't be working on it anyways. (I'd recommend the name [[User:Nescientist/movelist/contest/6]]). [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 23:21, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
::::Creating this page I'm now pretty confident I will do, but still very unsure about mainspacing. However, I guess I won't be using your proposed name, since I imagine the page would include all generations; probably [[User:Nescientist/Movedata]] or a subpage thereof.
::::Thanks for telling me about the template, and letting me usurp it. I'm not sure how heavily I'd need to edit it, but I might (or might not) move it in the following days. I'm gonna suggest mainspacing the final template if and only if I'll also do so for the main page, if that's alright. (If you have a preference, still feel free to share it.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:10, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

== Sinistea ==

Can I ask where you got the info that {{p|Sinistea}} can't hatch in Antique form? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:05, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
:Common knowledge I guess? Though I can't datamine the game, so I won't be able to ''prove'' it per se. But people have reported in various places that Antique breeds into Phony, but zero accounts of Antique breeding into Antique, or Phony breeding into Antique (unless you can direct me to one). [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 14:47, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
::If you're just taking it from other people, and if it's something like that that's far from a trivial check to figure out if it's correct, you should probably add a citation to somewhere so that claims can be checked (like, did someone just check a couple dozen Eggs and say, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!1). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:07, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
:::So...will you do me a favor and add a citation to someplace? We really can't claim something so absolute without being able to point to ''something'' that can be checked. (And you're the one who'll have some idea where you've seen good evidence.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:44, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
::::Honestly, this is so trivial I'd rather you just edit that information out than me do the impossible of proving a negative. (I can't decode the source code, and I'm not going to hatch 10 boxes of Eggs, sorry). Contrary to perception, finding an Antique form isn't that hard, so if anyone was able to breed one, then it would already be common knowledge. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 07:50, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
::::::I'm sorry, I thought I was clear enough that I wasn't expecting "proof". (Guess not.)
::::::Just go wherever you saw someone give an account of hatching lots and link to that. Something at least more testable than unadorned "fact". [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:25, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::::[https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/f7p3t2/sword_shield_daily_casual_trade_thread/fig6696/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x Here] is my ridiculously generous offer I just posted on /r/pokemontrades to trade a Melmetal (currently the most sought after for Casual Trades) for a hatched Antique Form. It is the biggest online community to negotiate trades - and if this can't prove the point, then that means you're solely looking for datamining. If a hatched Antique Form were legal, this trade would be fulfilled within an hour. But I'm near certain this will go unfulfilled, but with people telling me that what I'm searching for is not legal, or people making an unhatched or Phony Form counteroffers instead. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 18:48, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
::::::::That's still not what I was hoping for... That's most liable to just get more "obv that's not possible" 'common knowledge'.
::::::::Alright, guess I really do have to deal with this on my own. Thanks anyway. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:29, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

== Mainspacing Articles ==

Just a reminder, you have been told of this several times over the years but any articles you want to Mainspace NEED to be created within your userpace first. Then it needs to be tagged with the <nowiki>{{Mainspace}}</nowiki> template so that an Admin or Editorial Board member can review the article to see if it can be mainspaced. In the future, please make new pages within your userspace first and wait for admin approval. Refusal to comply with this rule may lead to a block in the future. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 20:03, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

== Regarding Meteor Assault ==
I changed the Move Variations page to note the accuracy difference since other than that, it's basically the same move. (Not withstanding Prismatic Lazer and Eternabeam, which have an additional difference in their base power) If you feel like Meteor Assault still does not count as a Hyper Beam variation despite the noted accuracy difference, let me know and I will not edit it back in. [[User:CoolMan6001|CoolMan6001]] ([[User talk:CoolMan6001|talk]]) 17:26, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

== Transfer-only moves ==

I noticed you did quite a lot there, which is good, but I am also wondering basically why is it that you appear to have started from scratch rather than continue from where Suic and I had started (mainly [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Structure|here]] and [[User talk:Nescientist#Transfer-only moves|here]])?

I was also wondering where you pulled the data from, both the learnsets, and the move data itself (since that had a few errors Spriteit and I have recently fixed). And also, whether you already tried to get approval, or even already have approval, or something..?

Apart from missing events, when I compared [[User:Suic12-/Template:Learnlist/transferh/7|Suic's GenVII Bulbasaur]] to [[User:TehPerson/Transfer-only moves (Generation VII)|yours]] I also noticed that you did include HM moves that were unable to be transferred. (Yeees, I re-read the pages I linked to, which is where I got the idea from.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 10:49, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
:I've never seen it before honestly. I think it's sheer coincidence that our templates actually ended up looking so similar. As for the "starting from scratch" part, I basically took a public database of move sets across all generations, then ran a code to compare cross-generational availability. 99% of what you see there is generated via script. HM moves were included because I never actually took that into consideration. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 13:47, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
::Alright. Let me (us) know if you have approval, and if you have plans to incorporate (or deliberately neglect) some of our ideas. I guess there better be one final product than two conflicting unfinished ones. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 10:25, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
:::I've made some changes to my templates to resemble the parts I liked about Suic's, but just to my [[User:TehPerson/Transfer-only moves (Generation VIII)|Generation VIII]] dataset for now. Now the only main difference between ours, it appears, is simply that my templates allow for linking to the specific subsections of each page based on learn method. Also, my dataset doesn't have full info on event-only moves, so I might be missing a chunk of those. Feel free to edit what's on my userspace if you like. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 01:05, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
::::Hey there, just saw this all happening a while ago. I've been away for a while, so it took me some time to catch up with the progress that has happened in the meantime. For what I saw, the work you've been doing regarding transfer-only moves seems to be very good, and I appreciate that more people are (independently) interested in this matter. I haven't really done much about it lately, but since you seem to be with a good momentum, and given that our templates are very similar overall, I would encourage you to change what you see fitting in my templates to match the ones you already made, if there is any need (if you already made them all, that's also fine, then you can feel free to incorporate to your templates whatever ideas or features you like from mine). You probably saw that by now, but just in case, the topic about transfer-only move in Nescientist's talk page covers what we had discussed about it, along with some conclusions we reached. What I had the most trouble with at the time was writing a script to compare all needed movesets, but yours seems to be doing very well, so that's great. I just think that we should make it so that it can properly categorize moves that cannot be transfered, such as HM moves in some Generations and moves from Pokémon like Cosplay Pikachu, and event/special moves, as was already mentioned. The other important part is getting approval, so if you think we heve enough to start this part, we can try talking to some staff members and show them what we have so far. And of course, I'm available to help in anyway I can, so just give me a shout if you need. [[User:Suic12-|Suic]] ([[User talk:Suic12-|talk]]) 03:04, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::Hey there, I'd like to make absolutely sure you saw [[User:Nescientist/Project Trace]]. I'd kindly ask you to watch it and its talkpage, and react as if it were yours. :) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 19:51, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

== List of Battle Maison Trainers/Garçon/1 ==

Hello, just wanted to let you know that the roster for Basim/Joel seems to be messed up after Durant. It does not match other trainers that should be using the same roster. [[User:Ltleelim|Ltleelim]] ([[User talk:Ltleelim|talk]]) 15:25, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

== Cramomatic ==

Can you tell me where you got the info you've added to [[Cram-o-matic]]? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:20, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
:Discord research thread, which I'm also helping out with a little. Left a commented link to the master spreadsheet under the incomplete tag. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 16:35, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

== Starter G-Max Moves ==

The starter Pokémon's G-Max Moves' power tables were hidden because they were not confirmed to be the same as other Max Moves. Please don't unhide table like that unless you can actually confirm that they are accurate. As it turns out, those G-Max Moves do not use the same tables as other Max Moves, so your edit added incorrect information. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:16, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

== Template:MSP/GO ==

My apologies, I was attempting to fix the error that was mentioned on [[Template talk:MSP/GO|the talk page]], if you could have a look at fixing it I'd appreciate it. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 22:51, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
:When it comes to tables, there needs to be a new line break after each <code>|</code>, so the Special Research page is an easy fix. But when it comes to the bullet lists, it acts funny again, and I'm still looking into the issue. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 23:14, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

== Battle Frontier Trainers Gen III ==

Last year you did some consolidating on the Gen III Battle Frontier trainer pages, moving Black Belt & Battle Girl to the same page & a bunch of trainer classes to the [[List_of_Battle_Frontier_Trainers_(Generation_III)/Youngster|Youngster]] page for example. Do you mind if I move them back to separate pages? The Youngster page in particular is very crowded. [[User:Lagnic|Lagnic]] ([[User talk:Lagnic|talk]]) 14:23, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

== GO Battle League rank sprites ==

Hello, I'm giving [[GO Battle League]] a desperately-needed update and saw you were the one to upload the existing rank icons. I have no clue how to retrieve high-quality images from the app — any chance you would be able to? We're missing the new low-rank icon as well as the top ranks.
--[[User:Swampert rox|'''Swampert''']][[User talk:Swampert rox|'''rox''']] 04:00, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

== BDSP Battle Tower Pokémon's natures ==

Hello, a question, are you going to put the respective natures of every Pokémon used in the BDSP Battle Tower? --[[User:ScientistRafa|ScientistRafa]] ([[User talk:ScientistRafa|talk]]) 20:59, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
:No, I left that out. The final base stat calculations already have the Natures factored in. If you want to see the IVs, EVs and Nature, you could look here instead: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/bdsp-battle-tower-discussion-records.3693739/
:[[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 22:56, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

== Gen IV Battle Tower/Frontier Trainers ==

Think you got mixed up when changing the Battle Frontier trainer pages to the new template. Currently the PtHGSS pages are duplicates of the DP pages. [[User:Glik|glik]][[User talk:Glik|glak]] 21:45, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
: It's likely that's bound to happen on a couple. Oops. Can you let me know which ones, and I can go put in the correct ones. Thanks. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 16:04, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
: EDIT: Nvm, I saw what you were talking about- the Pokemon were duplicates, not Trainers. My PtHGSS Trainers data was incorrectly pointing to the DP Pokemon set. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 16:17, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

== I've a question about your Giovanni trivia ==

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Giovanni_(GO)&curid=262745&diff=3462804&oldid=3462346

When does he use Hippowdon or Garchomp? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 04:29, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
:Black 2 White 2 at PWT. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 07:35, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
::Ah, thanks. Glad I asked before blindly undoing it. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:28, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

== Missing female eevee models ==

Hi there TehPerson. I originally posted this in the Bulbagarden Archives, but seeing how you're not as active there, I'm posting it again here:

A few days ago, I was looking through the [[Eevee (Pokémon)#Sprites|Eevee (Pokémon)]] page and I noticed that the female models were missing from its sprites section. I tried modifying the template so that it would display them, but I immediately noticed that the female models from sw/sh were completely absent (the template has since been edited and you can now see this glaring omission).

Since you seem to have originally uploaded the [[a:File:Spr 8s 133.png|male eevee models]] from sw/sh, as well as the [[a:File:HOME133.png|male]] and [[a:File:HOME133 f.png|female]] eevee models from home, I was wondering if you wouldn't mind uploading the missing female eevee models (I myself don't know how to make them the way you did). I would really appreciate it :) [[User:AlternateRT|Alt]] ([[User talk:AlternateRT|talk]]) 22:08, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
:Sprites were all made by another user over a year ago- I just helped upload them. I don't think she's been active lately. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 20:23, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

== Sprites ==

Where did you get images for generation 8 Pokemon sprites?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 16:59, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
:[[User:Lady Ariel]] helped make them a while back. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 20:23, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

== Contact Info ==

Good day! I was attempting to send you an email but I noticed that your "email user" function is turned off. I was wondering if you had another way I could contact you? Perhaps on the Bulbagarden Forums or Discord if you had an account? Let me know. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 02:00, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

== Battle facility data ==

Since you're the one who created the pages for battle facility Pokémon, I have a question - what is the source for these Pokémon? The Emerald Frontier Brains' Pokémon are not on [[List of Battle Frontier Pokémon (Generation III)|the list]], unlike other relevant bosses (with the only other missing data being ORAS helpers - understandable, considering they use ORAS Megas and thus have to be ORAS-exclusive data). [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 12:29, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
:Honestly, I downloaded this data into my personal spreadsheets 6+ years ago, and I can't exactly remember. It was in the raw datamined format, and I parsed through them- but those sites or links no longer seem to be online. Anyways, I dug through my Drive, and here's the Emerald info you're looking for: https://pastebin.com/iWuW44bu. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 21:57, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

So you're the one who ruined everything with these stupid new layouts. the picture for each Pokémon is way too small, the strecthed out moveset list is confusing to read, and words blend too much into the colors making it so you have to squint to have any chance of making out the words. I know this was done for super competive players by there are a lot of people who play a lot more casually and couldn't care less about this whole EV and nature nonsene. I in particular just want to see what Pokémon a character owns and what thier movesets are and the old layout was simple easy and had a nice look. So if you have to have the disgusting new look could you at least give the option to be able to toggle between it and oringal better one that way you won't be forced people away from site by keeping this useless new look. {{unsigned|Strawhatroger}}
:It is entirely possible for you to voice your opinions without being overtly rude. The template was originally made for Trainers with long lists of Pokemon (more than 6)- so that's not a decision I made myself. That being said, you're welcome to suggest changes on the articles' respective Talk pages. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 04:55, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
Sorry it's just that like I said the new layout is difficult to read with how streched out it is and the backgroung colors blending into the text making it very hard to read. The old layout got the point across very easily with things like Pokémon images, type, level, ability, and moveset had a simple condensed setup that wasn't super stretched to the point where it was difficult to keep track of thing and the text and background colors didn't mix in a way where it was almost impossible to read. I understand wanting to include more info for competive players but more casual players like myself will just get confusing with this and wonder why you're changing this now when there didn't seem to be a reason to in the past. I know I keep going on about this but I've been visiting this place for years and it's my favorite site for Pokémon information so seeing this made my hyper OCDness freak out and get paranoid when all I wanted was to see which character owned which Pokémon and what their movesets are for a personal project and now I'm going nuts over this worried I'll be ignored or worse banned for daring to speak up. [[User:Strawhatroger|Strawhatroger]] ([[User talk:Strawhatroger|talk]]) 06:50, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

== Question about GO sprites ==

Hello there. First, I want to say thanks for uploading most of the sprites from the game, I really appreciate it.

I would have a request. The next time you'll upload more GO sprites, could you update sprites for Galarian Ponyta (and its GO Fest costume) and Heliolisk? They're fixed for some time already (with that I mean Ponyta's white mane on forehead and Heliolisk's glowing head).

Thanks in advance! [[User:Piotrek1113|Piotrek1113]] ([[User talk:Piotrek1113|talk]]) 11:58, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
:Okay. There's actually quite a few others I need to update as well. Thx for the reminder. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 20:23, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

== Congratulations! ==

Congrats to you on the promotion to Junior Administrator! --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006!]]''''' [[User talk:Bfdifan2006|Or is he actually]] [[Special:Contributions/Bfdifan2006|Keyacom?]] 15:47, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
:Thanks. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 20:23, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

== [[User:TehPerson/MoveInfobox]] ==

I could edit it to add a <nowiki>{{{cat}}}</nowiki> parameter, so e.g. on documentation pages, all categorizing can be disabled if desired. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006!]]''''' [[User talk:Bfdifan2006|Or is he actually]] [[Special:Contributions/Bfdifan2006|Keyacom?]] 12:54, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
:And I did. I did so to make sure [[User talk:TehPerson/MoveInfobox]] is not categorized as a move. Also, someone forgot to add BDSP and PLA TM/tutor info, so I added that. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006!]]''''' [[User talk:Bfdifan2006|Or is he actually]] [[Special:Contributions/Bfdifan2006|Keyacom?]] 15:02, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
::Feel free to make whatever changes are on it. It's just a draft until the staff okays it anyways. I wasn't even aware the Infobox was that outdated. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 15:15, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

== [[User:TehPerson/TM learnlist (Generation VIII)]] pages ==

I think I can remove Pokémon that were eventually released in SwSh from these lists? They just sat there after their release for IoA and CT. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006!]]''''' [[User talk:Bfdifan2006|Or is he actually]] [[Special:Contributions/Bfdifan2006|Keyacom?]] 17:30, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
:That page is no longer needed- I have quite a few scrapped User pages I need to flag for deletion. And going forward, you can just comment on those page's respective Talk pages instead. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 17:58, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
::I think that these pages might come useful for some. I will just remove Pokémon that were eventually released in SwSh (but not BDSP or PLA), and fix some mistakes (notably, moves with 0 or fixed damage being marked as STAB moves for some Pokémon). --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006!]]''''' [[User talk:Bfdifan2006|Or is he actually]] [[Special:Contributions/Bfdifan2006|Keyacom?]] 18:19, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
:::Or I could move them to my userspace (and marked that initially, it was you who made it) and keep them there for posterity. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006!]]''''' [[User talk:Bfdifan2006|Or is he actually]] [[Special:Contributions/Bfdifan2006|Keyacom?]] 18:31, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
::::Sorry for literally spamming your talk page, but I deduced that only [[User:TehPerson/TM learnlist (Generation VIII)/3]] is to be deleted, because after weeding out the Pokémon eventually introduced to SwSh, none remain there. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006!]]''''' [[User talk:Bfdifan2006|Or is he actually]] [[Special:Contributions/Bfdifan2006|Keyacom?]] 19:04, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

== Hello ==

Would you help me? I saw that you, with your new position, can have access to the content of deleted pages. Can you see the content that was on this page [[User:Hikaru Wazana/Ash's Rivals|here]]?I was thinking of using some things I put on it at the time, can you help me?--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 03:00, 03 March 2022 (UTC)
:Sorry, my access level isn't that high yet. I can only see the deletion logs, not the deleted content itself. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 03:28, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
::This means that the page about {{bp|Junior Administrators}} just misinformed you, Hikaru. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006!]]''''' [[User talk:Bfdifan2006|Or is he actually]] [[Special:Contributions/Bfdifan2006|Keyacom?]] 07:57, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
:::The JA page did not misinform Hikaru, they just misinterpreted what it was saying, which TehPerson clarified.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:03, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
:::::Okay, thanks a lot anyway.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 12:25, 03 March 2022 (UTC)

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==Samurott==

Wheres your sorce, Serebii dose not count as a sorce? [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 17:00, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

== Move variations ==

I don't know if you intend to pick up editing these again, but please be aware that moves are only considered variations if they are within 5 PP of each other. Make sure any moves you're adding meet that criteria. Even if you disagree that that should be a criteria, it is something you would need to bring up in discussion in order to get changed. Thanks. =) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:16, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
:At this time, please stop working on content regarding move variants. The staff is currently undergoing discussion regarding possible redefinition of the criteria that determines what is and is not a move variant. Thanks, - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 18:32, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

== Move power ==

Please stop creating move power navigation templates until you obtain Editorial Board approval. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 06:39, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
:Okay fine. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 06:41, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

== Sandbox ==

While it's all right to have a sandbox (heck, [[User:CycloneGU/Sandbox|I have one myself]], please refrain from making a lot of edits to it. Your sandbox is still within userspace and is subject to the [[Bulbapedia:Userspace policy|userspace policy]], which generally stipulates three userspace edits per day provided you contribute at least four edits a day to mainspace. Exceptions can be made for pages being prepared for mainspace (as generally proposing new pages should be done via userspace), but the sandbox area usually does not qualify for exceptions. Use the preview button where possible when making sandbox edits instead of immediately saving, then [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User%3ATehPerson%2FSandbox&type=revision&diff=2308758&oldid=2308748 immediately changing them again]]. Also, note that I have several different projects in the same single Sandbox page by using section headers like in a normal article; this is instead of using several different pages as you have. There's nothing wrong with multiple sandboxes as far as I'm aware, it's just an idea I'm passing along so you have a single place for everything you're working on. =)

These are merely suggestions to help you out, so I hope they are helpful! [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 07:19, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
::I know I know. I used Show Preview to minimize edits, and tried to limit them to 3, but sometimes you gotta publish it to see how it affects another page. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 07:41, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Yeah, that's the difficulty with templates in userspace. You have to save it too see what happens. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 17:01, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

== Recent block ==

I saw recently that you were blocked for being "insubordinate" in editing Ability variations, when you had only been told about move variations. Now, if you don't care about that little mess at all (or if perhaps you've already resolved it elsewhere), feel free to skip the rest of this.

Anyway, I kind of took it upon myself (presumptively, perhaps) to alert {{u|Kogoro}} about her mistake so that she might undo it sooner rather than later. I kept after it too, but I am now told that it's not my concern since I wasn't the one blocked. I understand that logic, but I also kind of think it's a bit of a cheat. IMHO it's not too much to ask for a simple acknowledgement of the mistake. (In short—and I know this may sound a little silly—I just want to know that Bulbapedia's not somehow okay with such a mistake.) So, I thought I'd ask you if you'd like to raise that issue on your own behalf? If you just wish to chime in where I've already tried asking, that's [[User talk:Kogoro#TehPerson's block|here]].

If one way or another you just don't care about this, then I'm sorry for wasting your time. =) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:54, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your concern. While I do agree with you, I feel that doing so would only result in more harm than help. Looking at your conversation, it is clear Kogoro does not wish to discuss the issue, and even more so to admitting a careless mistake. Although I have considered bringing it up, I feel that at best I'll get a passive-aggressive apology with a reprimand attached.

Anyways, thank you for standing up for what's right. Much appreciated! [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 00:10, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

== Templates ==

Next time you create a template, please either create it in your userspace and tag with a {{template|mainspace}} tag or ask a staff member, preferably an Editorial Board member, if it is needed. I will be moving [[User:TehPerson/MovePower|your MovePower template]] to your userspace. Thank you for your time, and sorry for any inconveniences. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 03:04, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
:Again, templates must be made in the userspace and then be approved by the Editorial Board before put in the mainspace. [[User:Glik|glik]][[User talk:Glik|glak]] 02:11, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
::Well, you're welcome anyways. The new list at least exist in the history for future reference :) [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 02:20, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

== The Preview Button ==
Instead of editing a page several times in a row, try using the preview button to make sure your edit looks the way you want it to. It's right next to the Save Page button. Please try it out, so as not to clog up the Recent Changes. Also, if you want to edit multiple sections of the page, make sure that you click "edit this page" at the top of the page rather than editing it by section. Thanks! --[[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 16:48, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

== New pages/notability ==

You've made a few new pages recently, and I'd like to inform you, as a rule, new pages ''should'' be made in the userspace first and then brought to staff's attention for mainspacing. (This is mainly done by using the {{template|mainspace}} tag, but if you want to ask an appropriate staff member about a page directly, you can also do that.) The two pages you made for Battle Maison info have turned out alright and we've more or less let them slide, but your latest page is a perfect example of why that rule exists and the "risk" when it's ignored.

Regarding Battle Maison Trainer quotes, you should understand that we don't care about any and all quotes here, we only care about ''major'', notable characters, not a bunch of random Trainers. I've moved your page to your userspace for now. Thanks for understanding [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:58, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

== Major changes ==

When you're adding something entirely new, like the Maison/etc Pokemon pages you created, it's fine if you want to try to present the information in a new/unique format. However, any major change to an ''existing'' format (particularly templates, or any format that touches multiple pages) should ''always'' be discussed first. And something like your edit to [[Template:SubwayPartner]] was absolutely a major change. Please try to keep this in mind in the future. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:32, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
: Apologies for the trouble. Though keeping things in mind... I post a creative change to old articles that most people don't read anymore. Nobody reads them, idea gets buried. But I go ahead and post it, get a slap on the wrist, but the content still stays because everyone knows it doesn't make sense to revert it. Again, sorry for stress, but you have to admit that the old format wasn't intended for entire team rosters. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 07:57, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
::If you need a response to something, talk to a staff member.
::Please don't assume you're always justified (or always will be). A couple of your pages stayed, sure. The Battle Maison Trainer quotes absolutely did not, though. And, personally, I don't think a straight substitution of the SubwayPartner template was a great solution. (In short, pretty much: that's a '''''very''''' nonstandard format to see on character pages, so (IMO) it doesn't belong there the same way the party format did. I'll try to address it soon-ish.) You're not infallible. And you won't be. That's pretty impossible for most people. (I absolutely count myself among that number, too.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:31, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

== Conditions/Contest moves ==

Hi! Tables with lots of coding should be implemented with templates to save space. Please don't add huge, hard-coded tables—especially if you were only doing that because you couldn't easily create a template for it yourself.

Also, FYI there's actually a sort of solution [[User talk:Kogoro/Movelist/newcontest|already in the works]] (it may change to some degree before it's implemented). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:11, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
:This is kind of related, so I'll put it here instead of making a new section...
:Can you do me a favor and not update more pages like you did [[List of Battle Maison Pokémon]] to add the colors and stuff? At that point, a template absolutely becomes preferable. I've [[User:Tiddlywinks/Lop/Battlearea|made one]] already and will see about it getting mainspaced.
:If there are any other particularly needful improvements, it might be best to think of them now. (I don't mean that you should ''implement'' them, hard-coded, on a whole table, though.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:28, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

== Battle Frontier (Generation III) ==

Dude, can you make a list with the Pokémon on the Hoenn's Battle Frontier check this list:

http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/content/pokemon-emerald-battle-frontier-in-depth.html

Funny, in Gen VI is same data of the Gen V, in a Pokémon like Venusaur, 1st class, Pokémon, no Banette or Crawdaunt. --[[User:HoopsterJohn|HoopsterJohn]] ([[User talk:HoopsterJohn|talk]]) 04:05, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

:Website is dead and all information regarding RS Battle Tower Pokémon and Trainers is gone. https://web.archive.org/web/20170804102059/http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/content/pokemon-emerald-battle-frontier-in-depth.html
Someone should have added missing info on RS and E Battle Tower/Frontier teams sooner.[[User:Blob55|Blob55]] ([[User talk:Blob55|talk]]) 17:50, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

== [[List of Battle Maison Trainers]] ==

Out of curiosity, can you tell me how you got the information for the Battle Maison Trainers? I've been poring over the page for a bit, and some of the Trainers seem fairly weird to me. Like Manuel, with those special additions in addition to the type groups (why aren't Flygon/Empoleon/Floatzel part of some group?). And especially Azure and Claus/etc, with Regirock/Lati@s coming from sets 1 and 2 and the rest of the team from set 4, when all the other teams have uniform set possibilities for their whole team. (Perhaps... Are Flygon/Empoleon/Floatzel and Regirock and Lati@s maybe randomly inserted into the last (or some single) slot on the Trainer's team or something? I.e., is it possible for Manuel to have both Flygon and Empoleon on his team, or Flygon and Empoleon and Floatzel?)

Also, what in the world is "Water, Grass and Fire '''''old'''''" for the Tier 2 Super {{tc|Chef}}s? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:16, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Oh yeah, thanks for pointing out the ambiguities. I wasn't sure if there was a better way to represent the Trainer's Pokemon data.

Basically the Pokemon Groups represents all the Pokemon that can possibly be used by a Trainer. All the algorithm does is select ''n'' Pokemon from that roster at random, ''n'' being the required number of Pokemon for a challenge. The Battle Chatelaines have fixed teams because their rosters only contain ''n'' Pokemon - the order therefore can still be different.

Basically, all the roster for an Ace Trainer is that of a generic team plus Lati@s (depending on the Ace Trainer's gender). That's why you sometimes see Lati@s if you battle Ace Trainers. Artist Azure is like that but with Regirock (sets 1 and 2) and a Rock/Steel/Ground roster. Though meeting said Regirock is still pretty rare. I've only encountered the non-Veteran's Regirock once. Also, "old" means "Gen (I-V)". Tier-2 chefs don't use Kalos Pokemon. A correction I keep forgetting to make :\

Not really sure why low-tier Skaters use Flygon/Empoleon/Floatzel. I've personally encountered that as well. All I notice is that they all know Aqua Jet or Quick Attack, so maybe it's a priority thing- since Skaters are into speed.

And to answer why the legendaries only come from set 1 and 2, my best answer is that because the way Sets are treated for Legendaries is not the same as other Pokemon. For most Pokemon, you see their set 1 versions at lower-streak battles and they gradually shift towards set 4. Legendaries all start appearing after battle 40, when Pokemon have already been using Set 4 for a while. Notice that all tier-VI Trainers use Set 4 Pokemon for non-Legendaries, but the sets for Legendaries still vary. I guess it was just an arbitrary decision to have Sets 1 and 2 made available for non-Veterans.

Let me know if you have any ideas on how to better represent the data. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 05:00, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

:So does this all just come purely from observation/massive "trial and error" at the Battle Maison and Battle Institute? (That's quite a feat, if so.) I'll have to think for a while about what you've said and what is (or should be) on the pages. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:32, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

::No, I believe this was datamined from the game by Smogon- like how everyone else gets this information. Pretty much get raw data with a list of Trainers and a list of their Pokemon, and it's up to us to sort what sort of team is what. The guys at Smogon thought it would be a good idea to have the information consolidated here, where it can be viewed neatly. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 05:56, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
:::Can you link me where that data was released or whatever? Looking at it fresh, in a more raw or basic format, might help me get some ideas or understand some things better. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:05, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

::::[http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/BattleMaisonTrainers.txt List of Trainers]
::::[http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/BattleMaisonData.txt List of Pokemon]
::::Most lists aren't actually this nice looking. For the Battle Subway, a list of Trainers' Pokemon would be given by the Pokemon's Subway-specific id, and then cross-referenced from there. The seemingly-arbitrary ID number for the Pokemon actually play a role determining the tier, set, etc, but low-level detail like that I thought could be excluded here. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 06:13, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::I like low-level detail. =3 That low-level detail, are you talking about other pages at that site? If so, I think I mostly found them through Google.
:::::I was kind of fearing that's what the data looked like raw... You may be mostly right with the pages for Maison data (and others) you created, but I'm gonna mull over it all for myself some more anyway. ;) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:25, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

*Dude, you're awesome a give me a favor can you make me a list of the Battle Maison trainer in my native language Spanish, i want know the name in the Spanish version, please, if you can. --[[User:HoopsterJohn|HoopsterJohn]] ([[User talk:HoopsterJohn|talk]]) 20:50, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

*Thank you very much dude, you're the best, these name are the same in XY and ORAS unlike in English language have different one between these games. --[[User:HoopsterJohn|HoopsterJohn]] ([[User talk:HoopsterJohn|talk]]) 21:26, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

FYI, going from the links you gave above, I caught some errors on the Maison Trainer/Pokemon pages you made. (If I identify a Trainer below, any other Trainers that used the same roster also had the same mistake.)
* Set2 Porygon2 is not in the Hail group.
* Delphox/Greninja/Golurk are never in the Psychic/Dark/Ghost groups (respectively).
* Lucetta is not Set 4 Water+Ice, she's Set 4 Dark+Fairy+Normal.
* Bight also uses Ground Pokemon.
* Anastasia only uses Group C/D Psychic types.
I noticed you creating [[User:TehPerson/List of battle area Trainers (Generation VI)/1]], so I thought it would be best to let you know so you could correct any errors you have. I did see that on that page you apparently didn't include Greninja in the Poison/Dark table, though you did include it in the Dark table on [[List of Battle Maison Trainers]], so I don't know if they're more or less randomly introduced errors or what, though. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:05, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
: Oh, thanks for catching those errors! Sometimes my speadsheet bugs up a bit on me :\ [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 04:19, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
: I've come to realize that categorizing the Pokemon isn't the best way to represent Trainer teams. Might as well just do a table for each. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 07:58, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
::I'm just a bit torn about that. Between the two options, I kind of barely favor your new approach.
::The original approach requires a lot of user action to figure out what they want to know. Compared to the new approach, the only thing it's especially useful for is if people want to know the whole list to remix the Trainers' rosters for a game hack. The problem with the new approach, though, is that it can be incredibly repetitive. I mean, you've got tables for Groups A/B and C/D, but then also B/C which overlaps half of each of those, and then type groups which overlap again... The complete straightforwardness of it is the narrowest deciding factor for me. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:58, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

== Talk page responses ==

Please try to keep talk page discussions in one place. If someone replies to your talk page, respond there first, not on their talk page. If you feel they're not noticing after a while, ''then'' you can post something on their talk page (a link back to your talk page might be best, just so, again, the whole conversation remains in one place), but we can't have two sides of a conversation playing out on two separate talk pages like is developing above... That's just ridiculous. Please try to keep it where it started.

Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:36, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
: Oh okay, mods in different wikis, sonetimes even in the same wiki, use different conventions. Did not know if any standards exist here. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 21:47, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

== Battle Masion Trainer classes ==

There are probably a handful of reasons that adding battle area Trainers to the Trainer class pages probably isn't a good idea, but the simplest way to put it is that what you're adding is huge, complicated, and sort of pointless. If you really want to add them, it can be discussed, but in the meantime, please do not keep adding this sort of thing to the TC pages. Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:53, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

== Spanish Pokémon Sun and Moon game text, ==

Hi, man, please can you bring me in txt archive the game text from Pokémon Sun and Moon in spanish language, it's because i want to find a specific name in Alola, can you do it? please. --[[User:HoopsterJohn|HoopsterJohn]] ([[User talk:HoopsterJohn|talk]]) 02:32, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

https://projectpokemon.org/research/sunmoon/gametext.txt this but in spanish language. --[[User:HoopsterJohn|HoopsterJohn]] ([[User talk:HoopsterJohn|talk]]) 04:18, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

== Battle Royal ==

Hey TehPerson! I've noticed the new Battle Royal pages you've been working on recently. Is there any reason why it's not in a table format like [[List of Battle Maison Pokémon]] you also helped to make? Just wondering because I think the table format is much nicer (and keep up the good work) :) --[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(토크)''']] 07:13, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

I figured I'll just stick with the templates we already have to keep it practical. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 05:20, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

== Formatting ==

I must say, I'm very impressed by your extensive lists of Pokémon in various battle facilities. However, I've also noticed something you've been doing wrong: formatting. You use the [[Generation VI]] formatting on moves and items that had had their names written a different way to save character space before that. For example, Dynamic Punch as DynamicPunch, Never-Melt Ice as NeverMeltIce, and so forth. However, these facilities you're making Pokémon lists out of were in games BEFORE this happened, and as such, are written incorrectly for the games they were in. Just wanted to point that put for you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:06, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Oh, that actually is done on purpose since the spreadsheet I'm using only has one type of spelling. I don't manually enter in all these values- it's mostly automated. If you want to help with changing the spelling back, that would be appreciated- but I don't have a complete list of all moves/items that had spelling changes. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 05:19, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

:For moves, the list of changed names can be found {{DL|List of modified moves|Name changes|here}}. As for items... Well, I don't think there are too many of them. TwistedSpoon, NeverMeltIce... The item pages do note if the name of the item has ever been altered. I'll probably get around to helping with fixing this at some point, but I'm not sure when I'll have the time to do it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:35, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

== Pokemon with Hidden Abilities ==

When we have two other pages already for [[List of Pokémon with released Hidden Abilities (Generation V)]] and [[List of Pokémon with released Hidden Abilities (Generation VI)]], please follow that convention as exactly as possible. Either you should have created the Gen VII page at "List of Pokémon with released Hidden Abilities (Generation VII)" in the first place, or when you [[Special:Diff/2654726|went to edit]] the Ability page and saw the existing/uncreated Gen VII link and noticed yours was different, you should have moved your page to the right name.

Additionally, the order you used on your page has, for instance, {{p|Cleffa}} in the Johto section, whereas in the previous generations' pages, Cleffa is with {{p|Clefairy}} in the Kanto section.

Please try to keep these sorts of things in mind in the future. Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:54, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

== USUM Quotes ==

Hi. I just wanted to ask if you're doing the quotes and saving them in each articles one by one? I have actually completed all the quotes for every named NPCs in USUM. Because I'm left with Molayne before I saved everything. Also, the quotes are to be done in storyline order and not in location order. Finally, all answer quotes are to be done with the Options of answers bolded and not by asterisk. Thanks. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 21:40, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

: Storyline order would make way more sense for quotes. As for the other questions, I just referred to other articles to see what the current conventions are. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 21:44, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

== Battle Frontier ==

You have a history of making major changes without approval. I'm going to start here by generally reiterating that if you want to make any major change, please ask someone on {{bp|staff}} about it.

As far as the Battle Frontier pages go, splitting pages are decisions to be made by the {{bp|Editorial Board}}. You must get approval from {{bp|staff}} before splitting pages, you cannot just do it when you think you're ready. For the Gen III one, you may have thought you had permission after SnorlaxMonster's response to you on the talk page (and I'm not sure at the moment what he necessarily intended), but as far as I can tell you did not have even a hint at permission to split the Gen IV page.

Additionally, when you have userpages mocking up a page for the mainspace, do not just copy that code and edit it into the mainspace article. If there's a userpage, it should be ''moved'' into the mainspace with the wiki's move function. If you're not able to do this, then ask a {{bp|staff}} member for help. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:34, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

== Removing class links ==

While I greatly appreciate you uploading us VS models from the Let's Go games, while adding them to pages, please stop removing class links from Pokémon Trainers and Gym Leaders. Without those, their Trainer class links will wind up as redirect links. Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:51, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

== Quotes ==

When adding quotes, instead of leaving them incomplete, please use a text dump and/or YouTube videos to add all of them at once instead of in bits. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:49, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
:If you'd like to help, that would be much appreciated. But I do not have the text dump and cannot find them. Nor do I have my Switch with me at the time. In short, "I would if I could, but I can't so I shan't." [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 22:20, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

== Eggs ==

What was the point of [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_Egg&curid=9520&diff=2914481&oldid=2914421 this] edit? It seems to just make a ton more white space at first glance, but I think you were trying to separate them somehow but I can't tell how. However, in all honestly that list needs a serious overhaul its a mess. There should be a way to organize the information for what Pokémon are in what egg, and when they were available in that type of egg. A list of currently and previously doesn't help anybody since someone could have eggs from 2017 still. Not sure if you were trying to separate them somehow by availability, but there has to be a better way to organize it. '''[[User:Lady Ariel|Lady]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|Ariel]]''' 00:00, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
:I noticed the previous iteration had it separated by generation, and I forgot to do half of that when I updated the list in a slight rush, looking back. So half the cells had a break every 15, and the other had a break between generations, and it was inconsistent. If you want, I can just have it broken up so that there's a line break every X entries. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 00:10, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
::I think in general the entire table should be reformatted to list the dates, the Pokémon, and egg distance they are in. And like the Field Research page, probably use a gray background for ones that are current. Currently the entire section makes little sense as to what was in the eggs at any given time. '''[[User:Lady Ariel|Lady]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|Ariel]]''' 00:28, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
:::I agree on that too, since egg lists are constantly being updated like Raids. However, I currently don't have the entire history of eggs on hand, so it'll be quite a task for me do myself. I also want to include mention on possible Stardust/Candy yields from hatching each egg, but keep getting inconsistent information from source to source. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 00:39, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
::::If you can actually get the entire history of Eggs, I'd be very interested to know it. I'm really not a fan of having "current" and "old" in the same table for Eggs anyway. I think all current hatchables should have their own table (and pure minisprites isn't my favorite either), and old hatches should be dealt with in some separate fashion. Knowing the entire history would help know what kind of format could best show all necessary information. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:46, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
:::::I think the candy and Stardust from each hatched egg is pretty dependent on how strong the Pokémon is when it hatches. Quite a bit of the history of the egg hatches is mentioned on the page, in a very messy format. The others are pretty well documented by users and other sites. As for the minisprites, I think using the images of them from Pokémon GO would be a much better alternative. Even if we left some information as blank for now, that would signal for other users to help contribute what they can. '''[[User:Lady Ariel|Lady]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|Ariel]]''' 01:04, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
::::::[https://www.serebii.net/pokemongo/eggs.shtml Serebii has a page] that documents the history of eggs throughout updates, but it's kinda sloppy and appears to include eggs that may no longer be available in its tables for newer updates. I've been reading sources that Candy given depends on the amount of Stardust, and Power Up level of hatched Pokémon now depend strictly on the Trainer's level at the time of receiving eggs. Niantic updates the game pretty fast, so it's hard to keep track of which sources are still relevant. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 01:09, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
:::::::From what I have been told, [https://thesilphroad.com/egg-distances] this is one of the better sites to check for information. I don't think they have the old hatches documented anywhere on their site, but the [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/ Reddit] posts for them likely have them somewhere. '''[[User:Lady Ariel|Lady]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|Ariel]]''' 01:18, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
::::::::Serebii is at least still 90% accurate and more organized with legacy information. I can get started on a spreadsheet using Serebii's information, then corroborate it with that from /r/TheSilphRoad. As far as I see so far, Serebii's tables include all the eggs, but also includes eggs that shouldn't be there. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 01:22, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::I think that will work. Normally we don't like using Serebii's information, but as long as we can verify it with other source(s) then its usually fine. '''[[User:Lady Ariel|Lady]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|Ariel]]''' 01:26, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
::::::::::If there are other sources, use those. Do not steal from Serebii. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:04, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::::Trust but verify. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 03:19, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
::::::::::::That sounds too glib for me to be sure you understand. Are you going to use any information that we would only find on Serebii? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:31, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::::::I already see too many inconsistencies in the most recent page to trust that. My intention is to compare the results to update notices on SilphRoad and other GO-related sources. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 03:49, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

By the way, I don't know if you took my initial comment as purely rhetorical...but I meant just what I said. If you have gathered info on all Egg "sets", I would appreciate if you would lay that out. I do not really think that just noting species as previously available with no distinctions is the best way. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:04, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
:The info I have isn't complete. If I were to let's say, add a column to the table noting dates of availability, it would only be 40% complete. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 15:00, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
::Let me be even more explicit. When I say I'm interested in the data...honestly, I'm not looking for the final product that you synthesize from that data. To try to make up an example, if Bulbasaur was in 2k Eggs in January and February, but Charmander was in 2k Eggs in January but in 5k in February, if your final product would say "Jan-Feb" for Bulbasaur, it would be hard to tease out that that spans two different sets of Eggs (or to put it another way, that Bulbasaur's change in March was a third set, not just a second).
::So, what I would like to know is, in short, every full Egg set and their dates. That way I can examine it and try to think about what I think might make a good solution—whether whatever you may try is okay or whether there may be a better option. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:50, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Can I get an explicit acknowledgement of whether you intend to display the full data you're gathering, like I mentioned above? (I just don't want to wait for weeks only to ask then and find out you moved on long ago.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:06, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
:Final product may look like what it already does on the List of Eggs page, just more complete. (eg 2 Km available jun to nov 2016, etc) Probably going to chip away at it as time goes by, since Egg data being as dynamic as it is, isn't as easy to gather all at once. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 01:25, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

I guess it's been a while, so I'd just like to poke you again and ask if you're still working on the data. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:09, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
:Since this^ was easy to miss... [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:55, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

== Templates, again ==

You've been told a couple times [[#Templates|above]] to make templates in your userspace first and ask for approval. Please respect this request. If you make us keep cleaning up templates we don't want, you may face a block for insubordination. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:56, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
:k [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 21:50, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

== GO availability ==
I'd like to suggest a bit of a project regarding GO to you. I previously wanted to add a GO availability on species pages—things like "nestable", "hatchable only", "raids only", "research only" (and that's not exhaustive). However, this idea was not supported. A part of me has thought of making a dedicated page listing this sort of availability for all species, but I haven't had the time. Would you be interested in making a userpage? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:09, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
:Oh, I'm actually working on one right now. Currently still on a spreadsheet, but for starters, would include the initial release date and a "notes" column denoting stuff like regional exclusivity, egg only, etc. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 20:40, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
::I made a preliminary version [[User:TehPerson/List of Pokémon by availability (GO)|here]]. Feel free to play around with it, fill in any holes, etc. As for the Egg data, I was only able to get a limited amount using web archives, so at the moment, I'm going to focus on tasks I know can be finished short term. I can still share the spreadsheet I have, but it's messy and incomplete at best. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 22:04, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

== Pokémon Go ==

I responded to your split proposal at [[Talk:Pokémon GO#Page Splitting]]. Since you started that discussion in February and no one else has commented, I would say be [[wp:WP:BOLD|BOLD]] and <del>just make the split yourself</del> <ins>mainspace your draft pages as soon as you feel comfortable doing so</ins>. [[User:Qzekrom|Qzekrom]] ([[User talk:Qzekrom|talk]]) 04:26, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

== Pages ==

Can you let me do the rest? [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 23:32, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

== G-Max base moves ==

For signature G-Max Moves, should it be noted which base moves the Pokémon knowing the G-Max Move cannot learn and thus never legitimately use as base moves? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:31, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
: I guess if you want to it would be helpful to have that info on there, but for now I'm just copy-pasting the info from the Max Moves' pages just so the page has some degree of completion. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 16:35, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
::Once you've done that, can you help with adding the notifications? Also, I'm looking forward to you uploading more VS models from Sword and Shield. Especially the Breeder ones. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:38, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

== Dens ==

Can you explain where the information about the Pokemon in the dens comes from, as well as how the mechanics like rates and common/rare were found or where they were explained? Some of it is far from clear to me just based on the tables you've added to [[Dappled Grove]]. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:45, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
: [https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/pokemon-sword-and-shield-datamine-thread.3656143/ Here]. The rate is basically the % of encountering each species given a specific difficulty level (difficulty rates vary depending on Gym badges). It might not sound so intuitive at first to you, but for people who've spent hours hunting Max Raids, the rates are very self explanatory. The rare dens have a ~10% chance of spawning each time-you can test this with the soft-reset trick with Wishing Pieces. Let me know if you want to help out with doing the rest. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 22:00, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
::The problem is, most of our users really aren't "people who've spent hours hunting Max Raids". =P
::I'll try to look over it and figure out how we can be more user-friendly here. One quick question: are the "rare" raids perhaps the special ones with the purple beam of light? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:42, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
:::Yes. To be analogous, you can treat the "★★★" dividers the same as you would for the weather conditions shown in the other encounter tables on the same page. The den, depending on your number of badges, will:
:::1. Pick a common (red light, red background) or rare (purple light, yellow background) pool
:::2. Pick a difficulty (1 to 5 stars) - distribution greatly varies depending on # of badges; and there's currently no complete knowledge of what the rates are
:::3. Then use those encounter % values to pick a species
:::Imo you probably won't be able to find a more user-friendly way of displaying this unless it's just adding an explanation to the top. [https://www.serebii.net/swordshield/maxraidbattles/den6.shtml Serebii's way of displaying rates] makes no intuitive sense (it looks like a Drifloon has a 20% chance of being 2-star and a 30% chance of being 3-star; in reality it's the other way around- 2-star has 20% chance of Drifloon and 3-star has 30% chance...)
:::And to further condense the information, you may notice a lot of redundant listings (e.g. a "Sword-exclusive" Onix at 20% and a "Shield-exclusive" Onix at 20% on the same table); that can ofc be done away with later, but I want to get the basic info on there first. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 02:57, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
::::The data you've added doesn't seem to line up with the dumped data ([https://pastebin.com/C1bcXHcS Sword], [https://pastebin.com/AfWZ6wz4 Shield]), at least in the couple of cases I checked.
::::For example, on [[Dappled Grove]], you listed Budew as appearing in 35% of 1★ Raids, where it is between levels 15-20. In the dumped data, while all 4 of the Budew raids occur for 35% of 1★ Raids at their respective Dens, it instead appears between level 25-30. In fact, the dumped data doesn't include any raids for level 15-20.
::::Of course, this doesn't align with my own in-game experience. For example, I have a Sizzlipede that I caught in a rare raid (purple pillar) in the [[Rolling Fields]] at Level 17 in Pokémon Shield, but the dumped data indicates that all Sizzlipede are level 25-30. (It's also worth noting that your list of Dens on the Rolling Fields page doesn't include Sizzlipede in any Max Raid Battle.)
::::So the levels in the dumped data appear to be incorrect. Do you know if they're just a case of being off by a constant, or are they just not used at all? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:44, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::That data was imo hard to decipher and it took me a while to understand it before I was able to parse it properly. Basically:
:::::* Ignore the "1-star, 2-star" in front of each Pokemon's name. That's also where they derived the level. The actual star is the "1-star desired, etc" fields. Good chance these errors are there because of the way the dataminers parsed and deciphered the raw data. It also implies the TR rewards for each Raid, regardless of difficulty is the same, even though that's empirically false.
:::::* Personal experience also tells me (outside of Wild Area News) level is dictated by difficulty. There's also the fact that newer players may see their levels scaled down from higher difficulty raids, but I know nothing of the mechanics regarding that.
:::::* Can't say much about the Sizzlipede from Rolling Fields, other than the fact that Sizzlipede can only come from Fire-type pools. Are you able to re-verify which Den in Rolling Fields has Fire-types?
:::::[[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 17:02, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
::::::I really haven't done this much, but there appear to be [https://pastebin.com/u/SciresM updates] that happen to have level 17 Sizzlipede, so that could be where it came from. I noticed Pokewiki has something others don't, but [[:de:Naturzone|I don't really know what that is]]. Levels per stars seems to make sense. Also, SnorlaxMonster's userpages appear to be buggy (see Ditto rates). Not really into it (yet), but is it possible that the levels just upgrade once you defeat Eternatus, much like regular encounter Pokémon do? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:09, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Oh right! I totally forgot that Wild Area News allows Sizzlipede to spawn in all Dens for Shield. I've been meaning to make similar rate tables for the various Wild Area News events later on. However, Wild Area News spawns always have the red light, not purple... so I'm not sure if that quite addresses SnorlaxMonster's issue. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 17:37, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
::::::::Hmm, maybe I'm misremembering the purple pillar for Sizzlipede. It's easy for me to confirm where it was caught and what level it was caught at, but the type of pillar that it came from was purely from memory.
::::::::Regarding the Star ratings, that it's solely based on the "Desired" values is basically what I figured. And yes, my experience is also that levels depend on the star rating of the raid.
::::::::Looking at the Ditto rates in [[User:SnorlaxMonster/Raids#Den 26|my tables]], it looks like it's just a case where the code I used to generate those tables assumed that there weren't any cases of two different entries for a raid at the same Den with the same name (i.e. including the "X-Star" part of the raid name). In the actual source data, the rates do sum to 100%.
::::::::For level scaling, my guess would simply be that players who don't have all of the Badges would have a high-level Raid Boss scaled down to their maximum catchable level. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:20, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::It does seem your table looks more compact than the ones I put on the mainspaces. I think if level is the only issue, then it can just be excluded, and mention on the [[Max Raid Battle]] page that Stars determine level- after all, understanding how Stars translate to level would just make listing levels redundant. The only exception would be ofc the [[Wild Area News]] raids, which have their own fixed levels. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 17:01, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps my initial request was unclear, but I've read the Smogon link now and it didn't answer my questions at all.

I was hoping to know:
# How/Where you got the information about which Pokemon are in which dens
# How/Where you got the information about how the raids are generated (star level, rates for possible occupants, etc)
Generally, I'd appreciate if you could be as specific as possible. That particularly includes links (like not just giving me the start of another thread where the relevant post may be I-have-no-idea-where in dozens upon dozens of pages, please =P ). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:37, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
:I see you were active somewhat. Can you please answer? If there's no answer, we have to doubt the data. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:44, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
::I have it on one of my spreadsheets, and I ''think'' it's from [https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonSwordAndShield/comments/dz88r6/wild_area_den_number_map_version_20/ here], which cites a couple sources that seem to corroborate each other. (One's in Japanese so I don't know if it's circular reporting.) There was another source on the same subreddit linked [https://game8.co/games/pokemon-sword-shield/archives/273708#hl_2 here] (I can't find the original thread with the fancy, corresponding spreadsheet). IIRC the last source labels the Dens in a different order, but when cross-referenced they all match - for these conventions I deferred to Serebii's because that's the one sourced the most right now. The fact that at least 2 sources using 2 different naming conventions but resulting in the same data indicates that the sources at least aren't circularly confirmed. (And from personal experience, the Dens all seem to match (From memory, I can personally confirm all the ones in Bridge Field and the ones with GMax Spawns). But if you need to trial-and-error all of them with Wishing Pieces before mainspacing, that's fine too, but I'm 90+% sure you won't get anything different. Though if you do want to work on that first, I may need to rewrite the script to remove the redundant listings anyways. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 01:14, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
:::I'm going to look through those links (a little quicker this time), but first things first: just don't, ever, take anything at all from Serebii. Just nothing. Make up something sensible instead. (I kinda sorta don't even look at Serebii myself.) The short version is, we do not at all want to have any room to be accused of taking anything at all from Serebii.
:::Just for now, from the briefest check of the links...I would generally advise that the game8.co link is probably also not something we should just take from. In short: if it's not a crowd-sourced kind of site (roughly speaking, by users for users), you should probably ask permission before using their info (without adding a citation, anyway; there are certainly places where we cite other sites for detailed mechanics). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:21, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
{{indent}}OK... The Reddit page says the user took everything from Serebii and that "wiki" (which doesn't look like an actual wiki as far as I can tell). Taking info from Serebii means that's right out. Putting that aside for a moment or two...

I tried looking again at [https://pastebin.com/AfWZ6wz4 the raid data from Kaphotics]. I looked for a Gigantamax Pokemon and found {{p|Charizard}}'s nest, and found that on [[Lake of Outrage]]. I think I can get where the "Rare" den list comes from. But I'm quite mystified about the "Common" list. Can you please explain to me how you got the data for the "common" list for [[Lake of Outrage#Den C]]? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:06, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
:Not sure if this fully answers the question, but basically a "Common" raid is anything with the red light. If it's anything from the [[Wild Area News]] pool, which is always red, 90%+ chance it's from News and not the native Den. As for getting the "common" list, it's the exact same way I got the rare one. I copied the entire pastebin file onto a spreadsheet, used some scripts/formulas, and parsed them into BP templates. For both the Shield and Sword files, Nest 1 - 42 are all common and 43+ are all rare (in the order which they appear on the pastebin). And if you want to sample multiple raids to make sure it's the right pool (since many pools share a few Pokemon in common), you can use that [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdPRbS-HwSc clock reset] trick to reroll a different Pokemon (which only works if you use a Wishing Piece, otherwise the raid may just despawn). [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 21:03, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
::Are you saying that each Nest ID in Kaphotics' data does not correspond to exactly 1 den?
::I noticed that there are 100 dens and 93 Nest IDs, but I wasn't sure what to think besides go crazy. But if some of those Nest IDs are common lists and some rare—and some of the dens use the same list for one thing or another—then it could make sense. (Theoretically, I suppose one Nest ID could be the common set for one den and rare for another...)
::The "desired" part under the selection probabilities has always made me think there's something particularly special about it, and that there must be a more plain "non-desired" mechanic or something, but if I just ignore the word "desired" and treat the selection probabilities like simple pieces of the puzzle for an encounter table (that may apply to "common" or "rare" selections...unrelated to anything directly in Kaphotics' file, at least), it probably can be applied to all the Wild Area dens.
::...The problem remains that we can't use all the data built off of Serebii's data. I'm going to attempt to correlate Kaphotic's data from the ground up. For the meantime, the raid data will have to be removed. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:10, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

== PoGo information ==

I deleted the pages you tagged, but in case we decide to expand our Go information (which we should), I may want to bring some of those back, or at least tag you in to assist the project. The information looked good. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:57, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

== Wyndon Stadium split ==

I'm grateful that you split the Wyndon Stadium article. It was in need of that. But I would also like to mention that I had already brought this split idea up with Force Fire, who was waiting for a staff decision before doing it, and I was waiting for his reply on the matter. Did you get a permission to do the split? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:34, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
:No, but considering I was the one who originally created that article, lack of foresight on my part was the reason why it was so huge in the first place. I pretty much figured common sense would warrant splitting it rather than go through the administrative bottleneck. But if it's really that big of a deal, then in hindsight, it would have made more sense had I just made it a split from the start. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 14:06, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

== Contest data list ==

Hey, I was hoping maybe you would like to have a look at [[Talk:List of moves]]? I noticed that some years ago, you did some work related to contests. It seems like there used to be a dedicated userpage of yours (User:TehPerson/List of Contest moves) that was [[Special:Permalink/2427162|this list]]? Is that data correct ORAS data? Why was that userpage deleted? (Is there something that's better?) If you could help, I guess that would.. help. Thanks. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 20:05, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
: Was simply not needed anymore. Before, there was absolutely no list of moves by their contest effects in ORAS. Now the individual condition pages (e.g. [[Cool_(condition)#Hoenn_Contest_Spectaculars|see here]]) have pretty organized sections on relevant moves grouped by their contest effects. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 21:04, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
::Interesting, I didn't know.
::Well, I guess I'm gonna use those, then. Those and maybe what [[Jamming]] has.
::Anyway, by that logic, wouldn't [[List of moves]] be unneeded because moves are listed [[Normal (type)#Moves|at type pages]], or even at [[Physical move#List of moves|move category pages]]?
::I'm actually considering basically recreating your userpage, and whether I want to propose its mainspacing. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 21:39, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Yeah okay. Feel free to move [[User:TehPerson/Sandbox|the template I made]] to your userpage first, since it's so improperly named, as it's one of the first userspace templates I made, and I won't be working on it anyways. (I'd recommend the name [[User:Nescientist/movelist/contest/6]]). [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 23:21, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
::::Creating this page I'm now pretty confident I will do, but still very unsure about mainspacing. However, I guess I won't be using your proposed name, since I imagine the page would include all generations; probably [[User:Nescientist/Movedata]] or a subpage thereof.
::::Thanks for telling me about the template, and letting me usurp it. I'm not sure how heavily I'd need to edit it, but I might (or might not) move it in the following days. I'm gonna suggest mainspacing the final template if and only if I'll also do so for the main page, if that's alright. (If you have a preference, still feel free to share it.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:10, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

== Sinistea ==

Can I ask where you got the info that {{p|Sinistea}} can't hatch in Antique form? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:05, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
:Common knowledge I guess? Though I can't datamine the game, so I won't be able to ''prove'' it per se. But people have reported in various places that Antique breeds into Phony, but zero accounts of Antique breeding into Antique, or Phony breeding into Antique (unless you can direct me to one). [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 14:47, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
::If you're just taking it from other people, and if it's something like that that's far from a trivial check to figure out if it's correct, you should probably add a citation to somewhere so that claims can be checked (like, did someone just check a couple dozen Eggs and say, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!1). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:07, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
:::So...will you do me a favor and add a citation to someplace? We really can't claim something so absolute without being able to point to ''something'' that can be checked. (And you're the one who'll have some idea where you've seen good evidence.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:44, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
::::Honestly, this is so trivial I'd rather you just edit that information out than me do the impossible of proving a negative. (I can't decode the source code, and I'm not going to hatch 10 boxes of Eggs, sorry). Contrary to perception, finding an Antique form isn't that hard, so if anyone was able to breed one, then it would already be common knowledge. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 07:50, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
::::::I'm sorry, I thought I was clear enough that I wasn't expecting "proof". (Guess not.)
::::::Just go wherever you saw someone give an account of hatching lots and link to that. Something at least more testable than unadorned "fact". [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:25, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::::[https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/f7p3t2/sword_shield_daily_casual_trade_thread/fig6696/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x Here] is my ridiculously generous offer I just posted on /r/pokemontrades to trade a Melmetal (currently the most sought after for Casual Trades) for a hatched Antique Form. It is the biggest online community to negotiate trades - and if this can't prove the point, then that means you're solely looking for datamining. If a hatched Antique Form were legal, this trade would be fulfilled within an hour. But I'm near certain this will go unfulfilled, but with people telling me that what I'm searching for is not legal, or people making an unhatched or Phony Form counteroffers instead. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 18:48, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
::::::::That's still not what I was hoping for... That's most liable to just get more "obv that's not possible" 'common knowledge'.
::::::::Alright, guess I really do have to deal with this on my own. Thanks anyway. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:29, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

== Mainspacing Articles ==

Just a reminder, you have been told of this several times over the years but any articles you want to Mainspace NEED to be created within your userpace first. Then it needs to be tagged with the <nowiki>{{Mainspace}}</nowiki> template so that an Admin or Editorial Board member can review the article to see if it can be mainspaced. In the future, please make new pages within your userspace first and wait for admin approval. Refusal to comply with this rule may lead to a block in the future. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 20:03, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

== Regarding Meteor Assault ==
I changed the Move Variations page to note the accuracy difference since other than that, it's basically the same move. (Not withstanding Prismatic Lazer and Eternabeam, which have an additional difference in their base power) If you feel like Meteor Assault still does not count as a Hyper Beam variation despite the noted accuracy difference, let me know and I will not edit it back in. [[User:CoolMan6001|CoolMan6001]] ([[User talk:CoolMan6001|talk]]) 17:26, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

== Transfer-only moves ==

I noticed you did quite a lot there, which is good, but I am also wondering basically why is it that you appear to have started from scratch rather than continue from where Suic and I had started (mainly [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Structure|here]] and [[User talk:Nescientist#Transfer-only moves|here]])?

I was also wondering where you pulled the data from, both the learnsets, and the move data itself (since that had a few errors Spriteit and I have recently fixed). And also, whether you already tried to get approval, or even already have approval, or something..?

Apart from missing events, when I compared [[User:Suic12-/Template:Learnlist/transferh/7|Suic's GenVII Bulbasaur]] to [[User:TehPerson/Transfer-only moves (Generation VII)|yours]] I also noticed that you did include HM moves that were unable to be transferred. (Yeees, I re-read the pages I linked to, which is where I got the idea from.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 10:49, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
:I've never seen it before honestly. I think it's sheer coincidence that our templates actually ended up looking so similar. As for the "starting from scratch" part, I basically took a public database of move sets across all generations, then ran a code to compare cross-generational availability. 99% of what you see there is generated via script. HM moves were included because I never actually took that into consideration. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 13:47, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
::Alright. Let me (us) know if you have approval, and if you have plans to incorporate (or deliberately neglect) some of our ideas. I guess there better be one final product than two conflicting unfinished ones. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 10:25, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
:::I've made some changes to my templates to resemble the parts I liked about Suic's, but just to my [[User:TehPerson/Transfer-only moves (Generation VIII)|Generation VIII]] dataset for now. Now the only main difference between ours, it appears, is simply that my templates allow for linking to the specific subsections of each page based on learn method. Also, my dataset doesn't have full info on event-only moves, so I might be missing a chunk of those. Feel free to edit what's on my userspace if you like. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 01:05, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
::::Hey there, just saw this all happening a while ago. I've been away for a while, so it took me some time to catch up with the progress that has happened in the meantime. For what I saw, the work you've been doing regarding transfer-only moves seems to be very good, and I appreciate that more people are (independently) interested in this matter. I haven't really done much about it lately, but since you seem to be with a good momentum, and given that our templates are very similar overall, I would encourage you to change what you see fitting in my templates to match the ones you already made, if there is any need (if you already made them all, that's also fine, then you can feel free to incorporate to your templates whatever ideas or features you like from mine). You probably saw that by now, but just in case, the topic about transfer-only move in Nescientist's talk page covers what we had discussed about it, along with some conclusions we reached. What I had the most trouble with at the time was writing a script to compare all needed movesets, but yours seems to be doing very well, so that's great. I just think that we should make it so that it can properly categorize moves that cannot be transfered, such as HM moves in some Generations and moves from Pokémon like Cosplay Pikachu, and event/special moves, as was already mentioned. The other important part is getting approval, so if you think we heve enough to start this part, we can try talking to some staff members and show them what we have so far. And of course, I'm available to help in anyway I can, so just give me a shout if you need. [[User:Suic12-|Suic]] ([[User talk:Suic12-|talk]]) 03:04, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::Hey there, I'd like to make absolutely sure you saw [[User:Nescientist/Project Trace]]. I'd kindly ask you to watch it and its talkpage, and react as if it were yours. :) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 19:51, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

== List of Battle Maison Trainers/Garçon/1 ==

Hello, just wanted to let you know that the roster for Basim/Joel seems to be messed up after Durant. It does not match other trainers that should be using the same roster. [[User:Ltleelim|Ltleelim]] ([[User talk:Ltleelim|talk]]) 15:25, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

== Cramomatic ==

Can you tell me where you got the info you've added to [[Cram-o-matic]]? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:20, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
:Discord research thread, which I'm also helping out with a little. Left a commented link to the master spreadsheet under the incomplete tag. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 16:35, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

== Starter G-Max Moves ==

The starter Pokémon's G-Max Moves' power tables were hidden because they were not confirmed to be the same as other Max Moves. Please don't unhide table like that unless you can actually confirm that they are accurate. As it turns out, those G-Max Moves do not use the same tables as other Max Moves, so your edit added incorrect information. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:16, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

== Template:MSP/GO ==

My apologies, I was attempting to fix the error that was mentioned on [[Template talk:MSP/GO|the talk page]], if you could have a look at fixing it I'd appreciate it. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 22:51, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
:When it comes to tables, there needs to be a new line break after each <code>|</code>, so the Special Research page is an easy fix. But when it comes to the bullet lists, it acts funny again, and I'm still looking into the issue. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 23:14, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

== Battle Frontier Trainers Gen III ==

Last year you did some consolidating on the Gen III Battle Frontier trainer pages, moving Black Belt & Battle Girl to the same page & a bunch of trainer classes to the [[List_of_Battle_Frontier_Trainers_(Generation_III)/Youngster|Youngster]] page for example. Do you mind if I move them back to separate pages? The Youngster page in particular is very crowded. [[User:Lagnic|Lagnic]] ([[User talk:Lagnic|talk]]) 14:23, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

== GO Battle League rank sprites ==

Hello, I'm giving [[GO Battle League]] a desperately-needed update and saw you were the one to upload the existing rank icons. I have no clue how to retrieve high-quality images from the app — any chance you would be able to? We're missing the new low-rank icon as well as the top ranks.
--[[User:Swampert rox|'''Swampert''']][[User talk:Swampert rox|'''rox''']] 04:00, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

== BDSP Battle Tower Pokémon's natures ==

Hello, a question, are you going to put the respective natures of every Pokémon used in the BDSP Battle Tower? --[[User:ScientistRafa|ScientistRafa]] ([[User talk:ScientistRafa|talk]]) 20:59, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
:No, I left that out. The final base stat calculations already have the Natures factored in. If you want to see the IVs, EVs and Nature, you could look here instead: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/bdsp-battle-tower-discussion-records.3693739/
:[[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 22:56, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

== Gen IV Battle Tower/Frontier Trainers ==

Think you got mixed up when changing the Battle Frontier trainer pages to the new template. Currently the PtHGSS pages are duplicates of the DP pages. [[User:Glik|glik]][[User talk:Glik|glak]] 21:45, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
: It's likely that's bound to happen on a couple. Oops. Can you let me know which ones, and I can go put in the correct ones. Thanks. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 16:04, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
: EDIT: Nvm, I saw what you were talking about- the Pokemon were duplicates, not Trainers. My PtHGSS Trainers data was incorrectly pointing to the DP Pokemon set. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 16:17, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

== I've a question about your Giovanni trivia ==

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Giovanni_(GO)&curid=262745&diff=3462804&oldid=3462346

When does he use Hippowdon or Garchomp? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 04:29, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
:Black 2 White 2 at PWT. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 07:35, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
::Ah, thanks. Glad I asked before blindly undoing it. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:28, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

== Missing female eevee models ==

Hi there TehPerson. I originally posted this in the Bulbagarden Archives, but seeing how you're not as active there, I'm posting it again here:

A few days ago, I was looking through the [[Eevee (Pokémon)#Sprites|Eevee (Pokémon)]] page and I noticed that the female models were missing from its sprites section. I tried modifying the template so that it would display them, but I immediately noticed that the female models from sw/sh were completely absent (the template has since been edited and you can now see this glaring omission).

Since you seem to have originally uploaded the [[a:File:Spr 8s 133.png|male eevee models]] from sw/sh, as well as the [[a:File:HOME133.png|male]] and [[a:File:HOME133 f.png|female]] eevee models from home, I was wondering if you wouldn't mind uploading the missing female eevee models (I myself don't know how to make them the way you did). I would really appreciate it :) [[User:AlternateRT|Alt]] ([[User talk:AlternateRT|talk]]) 22:08, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
:Sprites were all made by another user over a year ago- I just helped upload them. I don't think she's been active lately. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 20:23, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

== Sprites ==

Where did you get images for generation 8 Pokemon sprites?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 16:59, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
:[[User:Lady Ariel]] helped make them a while back. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 20:23, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

== Contact Info ==

Good day! I was attempting to send you an email but I noticed that your "email user" function is turned off. I was wondering if you had another way I could contact you? Perhaps on the Bulbagarden Forums or Discord if you had an account? Let me know. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 02:00, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

== Battle facility data ==

Since you're the one who created the pages for battle facility Pokémon, I have a question - what is the source for these Pokémon? The Emerald Frontier Brains' Pokémon are not on [[List of Battle Frontier Pokémon (Generation III)|the list]], unlike other relevant bosses (with the only other missing data being ORAS helpers - understandable, considering they use ORAS Megas and thus have to be ORAS-exclusive data). [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 12:29, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
:Honestly, I downloaded this data into my personal spreadsheets 6+ years ago, and I can't exactly remember. It was in the raw datamined format, and I parsed through them- but those sites or links no longer seem to be online. Anyways, I dug through my Drive, and here's the Emerald info you're looking for: https://pastebin.com/iWuW44bu. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 21:57, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

So you're the one who ruined everything with these stupid new layouts. the picture for each Pokémon is way too small, the strecthed out moveset list is confusing to read, and words blend too much into the colors making it so you have to squint to have any chance of making out the words. I know this was done for super competive players by there are a lot of people who play a lot more casually and couldn't care less about this whole EV and nature nonsene. I in particular just want to see what Pokémon a character owns and what thier movesets are and the old layout was simple easy and had a nice look. So if you have to have the disgusting new look could you at least give the option to be able to toggle between it and oringal better one that way you won't be forced people away from site by keeping this useless new look. {{unsigned|Strawhatroger}}
:It is entirely possible for you to voice your opinions without being overtly rude. The template was originally made for Trainers with long lists of Pokemon (more than 6)- so that's not a decision I made myself. That being said, you're welcome to suggest changes on the articles' respective Talk pages. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 04:55, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
Sorry it's just that like I said the new layout is difficult to read with how streched out it is and the backgroung colors blending into the text making it very hard to read. The old layout got the point across very easily with things like Pokémon images, type, level, ability, and moveset had a simple condensed setup that wasn't super stretched to the point where it was difficult to keep track of thing and the text and background colors didn't mix in a way where it was almost impossible to read. I understand wanting to include more info for competive players but more casual players like myself will just get confusing with this and wonder why you're changing this now when there didn't seem to be a reason to in the past. I know I keep going on about this but I've been visiting this place for years and it's my favorite site for Pokémon information so seeing this made my hyper OCDness freak out and get paranoid when all I wanted was to see which character owned which Pokémon and what their movesets are for a personal project and now I'm going nuts over this worried I'll be ignored or worse banned for daring to speak up.

== Question about GO sprites ==

Hello there. First, I want to say thanks for uploading most of the sprites from the game, I really appreciate it.

I would have a request. The next time you'll upload more GO sprites, could you update sprites for Galarian Ponyta (and its GO Fest costume) and Heliolisk? They're fixed for some time already (with that I mean Ponyta's white mane on forehead and Heliolisk's glowing head).

Thanks in advance! [[User:Piotrek1113|Piotrek1113]] ([[User talk:Piotrek1113|talk]]) 11:58, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
:Okay. There's actually quite a few others I need to update as well. Thx for the reminder. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 20:23, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

== Congratulations! ==

Congrats to you on the promotion to Junior Administrator! --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006!]]''''' [[User talk:Bfdifan2006|Or is he actually]] [[Special:Contributions/Bfdifan2006|Keyacom?]] 15:47, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
:Thanks. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 20:23, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

== [[User:TehPerson/MoveInfobox]] ==

I could edit it to add a <nowiki>{{{cat}}}</nowiki> parameter, so e.g. on documentation pages, all categorizing can be disabled if desired. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006!]]''''' [[User talk:Bfdifan2006|Or is he actually]] [[Special:Contributions/Bfdifan2006|Keyacom?]] 12:54, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
:And I did. I did so to make sure [[User talk:TehPerson/MoveInfobox]] is not categorized as a move. Also, someone forgot to add BDSP and PLA TM/tutor info, so I added that. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006!]]''''' [[User talk:Bfdifan2006|Or is he actually]] [[Special:Contributions/Bfdifan2006|Keyacom?]] 15:02, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
::Feel free to make whatever changes are on it. It's just a draft until the staff okays it anyways. I wasn't even aware the Infobox was that outdated. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 15:15, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

== [[User:TehPerson/TM learnlist (Generation VIII)]] pages ==

I think I can remove Pokémon that were eventually released in SwSh from these lists? They just sat there after their release for IoA and CT. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006!]]''''' [[User talk:Bfdifan2006|Or is he actually]] [[Special:Contributions/Bfdifan2006|Keyacom?]] 17:30, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
:That page is no longer needed- I have quite a few scrapped User pages I need to flag for deletion. And going forward, you can just comment on those page's respective Talk pages instead. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 17:58, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
::I think that these pages might come useful for some. I will just remove Pokémon that were eventually released in SwSh (but not BDSP or PLA), and fix some mistakes (notably, moves with 0 or fixed damage being marked as STAB moves for some Pokémon). --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006!]]''''' [[User talk:Bfdifan2006|Or is he actually]] [[Special:Contributions/Bfdifan2006|Keyacom?]] 18:19, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
:::Or I could move them to my userspace (and marked that initially, it was you who made it) and keep them there for posterity. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006!]]''''' [[User talk:Bfdifan2006|Or is he actually]] [[Special:Contributions/Bfdifan2006|Keyacom?]] 18:31, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
::::Sorry for literally spamming your talk page, but I deduced that only [[User:TehPerson/TM learnlist (Generation VIII)/3]] is to be deleted, because after weeding out the Pokémon eventually introduced to SwSh, none remain there. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006!]]''''' [[User talk:Bfdifan2006|Or is he actually]] [[Special:Contributions/Bfdifan2006|Keyacom?]] 19:04, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

== Hello ==

Would you help me? I saw that you, with your new position, can have access to the content of deleted pages. Can you see the content that was on this page [[User:Hikaru Wazana/Ash's Rivals|here]]?I was thinking of using some things I put on it at the time, can you help me?--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 03:00, 03 March 2022 (UTC)
:Sorry, my access level isn't that high yet. I can only see the deletion logs, not the deleted content itself. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 03:28, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
::This means that the page about {{bp|Junior Administrators}} just misinformed you, Hikaru. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006!]]''''' [[User talk:Bfdifan2006|Or is he actually]] [[Special:Contributions/Bfdifan2006|Keyacom?]] 07:57, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
:::The JA page did not misinform Hikaru, they just misinterpreted what it was saying, which TehPerson clarified.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:03, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
:::::Okay, thanks a lot anyway.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 12:25, 03 March 2022 (UTC)

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==Samurott==

Wheres your sorce, Serebii dose not count as a sorce? [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 17:00, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

== Move variations ==

I don't know if you intend to pick up editing these again, but please be aware that moves are only considered variations if they are within 5 PP of each other. Make sure any moves you're adding meet that criteria. Even if you disagree that that should be a criteria, it is something you would need to bring up in discussion in order to get changed. Thanks. =) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:16, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
:At this time, please stop working on content regarding move variants. The staff is currently undergoing discussion regarding possible redefinition of the criteria that determines what is and is not a move variant. Thanks, - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 18:32, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

== Move power ==

Please stop creating move power navigation templates until you obtain Editorial Board approval. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 06:39, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
:Okay fine. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 06:41, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

== Sandbox ==

While it's all right to have a sandbox (heck, [[User:CycloneGU/Sandbox|I have one myself]], please refrain from making a lot of edits to it. Your sandbox is still within userspace and is subject to the [[Bulbapedia:Userspace policy|userspace policy]], which generally stipulates three userspace edits per day provided you contribute at least four edits a day to mainspace. Exceptions can be made for pages being prepared for mainspace (as generally proposing new pages should be done via userspace), but the sandbox area usually does not qualify for exceptions. Use the preview button where possible when making sandbox edits instead of immediately saving, then [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User%3ATehPerson%2FSandbox&type=revision&diff=2308758&oldid=2308748 immediately changing them again]]. Also, note that I have several different projects in the same single Sandbox page by using section headers like in a normal article; this is instead of using several different pages as you have. There's nothing wrong with multiple sandboxes as far as I'm aware, it's just an idea I'm passing along so you have a single place for everything you're working on. =)

These are merely suggestions to help you out, so I hope they are helpful! [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 07:19, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
::I know I know. I used Show Preview to minimize edits, and tried to limit them to 3, but sometimes you gotta publish it to see how it affects another page. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 07:41, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Yeah, that's the difficulty with templates in userspace. You have to save it too see what happens. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 17:01, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

== Recent block ==

I saw recently that you were blocked for being "insubordinate" in editing Ability variations, when you had only been told about move variations. Now, if you don't care about that little mess at all (or if perhaps you've already resolved it elsewhere), feel free to skip the rest of this.

Anyway, I kind of took it upon myself (presumptively, perhaps) to alert {{u|Kogoro}} about her mistake so that she might undo it sooner rather than later. I kept after it too, but I am now told that it's not my concern since I wasn't the one blocked. I understand that logic, but I also kind of think it's a bit of a cheat. IMHO it's not too much to ask for a simple acknowledgement of the mistake. (In short—and I know this may sound a little silly—I just want to know that Bulbapedia's not somehow okay with such a mistake.) So, I thought I'd ask you if you'd like to raise that issue on your own behalf? If you just wish to chime in where I've already tried asking, that's [[User talk:Kogoro#TehPerson's block|here]].

If one way or another you just don't care about this, then I'm sorry for wasting your time. =) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:54, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your concern. While I do agree with you, I feel that doing so would only result in more harm than help. Looking at your conversation, it is clear Kogoro does not wish to discuss the issue, and even more so to admitting a careless mistake. Although I have considered bringing it up, I feel that at best I'll get a passive-aggressive apology with a reprimand attached.

Anyways, thank you for standing up for what's right. Much appreciated! [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 00:10, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

== Templates ==

Next time you create a template, please either create it in your userspace and tag with a {{template|mainspace}} tag or ask a staff member, preferably an Editorial Board member, if it is needed. I will be moving [[User:TehPerson/MovePower|your MovePower template]] to your userspace. Thank you for your time, and sorry for any inconveniences. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 03:04, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
:Again, templates must be made in the userspace and then be approved by the Editorial Board before put in the mainspace. [[User:Glik|glik]][[User talk:Glik|glak]] 02:11, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
::Well, you're welcome anyways. The new list at least exist in the history for future reference :) [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 02:20, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

== The Preview Button ==
Instead of editing a page several times in a row, try using the preview button to make sure your edit looks the way you want it to. It's right next to the Save Page button. Please try it out, so as not to clog up the Recent Changes. Also, if you want to edit multiple sections of the page, make sure that you click "edit this page" at the top of the page rather than editing it by section. Thanks! --[[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 16:48, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

== New pages/notability ==

You've made a few new pages recently, and I'd like to inform you, as a rule, new pages ''should'' be made in the userspace first and then brought to staff's attention for mainspacing. (This is mainly done by using the {{template|mainspace}} tag, but if you want to ask an appropriate staff member about a page directly, you can also do that.) The two pages you made for Battle Maison info have turned out alright and we've more or less let them slide, but your latest page is a perfect example of why that rule exists and the "risk" when it's ignored.

Regarding Battle Maison Trainer quotes, you should understand that we don't care about any and all quotes here, we only care about ''major'', notable characters, not a bunch of random Trainers. I've moved your page to your userspace for now. Thanks for understanding [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:58, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

== Major changes ==

When you're adding something entirely new, like the Maison/etc Pokemon pages you created, it's fine if you want to try to present the information in a new/unique format. However, any major change to an ''existing'' format (particularly templates, or any format that touches multiple pages) should ''always'' be discussed first. And something like your edit to [[Template:SubwayPartner]] was absolutely a major change. Please try to keep this in mind in the future. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:32, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
: Apologies for the trouble. Though keeping things in mind... I post a creative change to old articles that most people don't read anymore. Nobody reads them, idea gets buried. But I go ahead and post it, get a slap on the wrist, but the content still stays because everyone knows it doesn't make sense to revert it. Again, sorry for stress, but you have to admit that the old format wasn't intended for entire team rosters. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 07:57, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
::If you need a response to something, talk to a staff member.
::Please don't assume you're always justified (or always will be). A couple of your pages stayed, sure. The Battle Maison Trainer quotes absolutely did not, though. And, personally, I don't think a straight substitution of the SubwayPartner template was a great solution. (In short, pretty much: that's a '''''very''''' nonstandard format to see on character pages, so (IMO) it doesn't belong there the same way the party format did. I'll try to address it soon-ish.) You're not infallible. And you won't be. That's pretty impossible for most people. (I absolutely count myself among that number, too.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:31, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

== Conditions/Contest moves ==

Hi! Tables with lots of coding should be implemented with templates to save space. Please don't add huge, hard-coded tables—especially if you were only doing that because you couldn't easily create a template for it yourself.

Also, FYI there's actually a sort of solution [[User talk:Kogoro/Movelist/newcontest|already in the works]] (it may change to some degree before it's implemented). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:11, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
:This is kind of related, so I'll put it here instead of making a new section...
:Can you do me a favor and not update more pages like you did [[List of Battle Maison Pokémon]] to add the colors and stuff? At that point, a template absolutely becomes preferable. I've [[User:Tiddlywinks/Lop/Battlearea|made one]] already and will see about it getting mainspaced.
:If there are any other particularly needful improvements, it might be best to think of them now. (I don't mean that you should ''implement'' them, hard-coded, on a whole table, though.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:28, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

== Battle Frontier (Generation III) ==

Dude, can you make a list with the Pokémon on the Hoenn's Battle Frontier check this list:

http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/content/pokemon-emerald-battle-frontier-in-depth.html

Funny, in Gen VI is same data of the Gen V, in a Pokémon like Venusaur, 1st class, Pokémon, no Banette or Crawdaunt. --[[User:HoopsterJohn|HoopsterJohn]] ([[User talk:HoopsterJohn|talk]]) 04:05, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

:Website is dead and all information regarding RS Battle Tower Pokémon and Trainers is gone. https://web.archive.org/web/20170804102059/http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/content/pokemon-emerald-battle-frontier-in-depth.html
Someone should have added missing info on RS and E Battle Tower/Frontier teams sooner.[[User:Blob55|Blob55]] ([[User talk:Blob55|talk]]) 17:50, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

== [[List of Battle Maison Trainers]] ==

Out of curiosity, can you tell me how you got the information for the Battle Maison Trainers? I've been poring over the page for a bit, and some of the Trainers seem fairly weird to me. Like Manuel, with those special additions in addition to the type groups (why aren't Flygon/Empoleon/Floatzel part of some group?). And especially Azure and Claus/etc, with Regirock/Lati@s coming from sets 1 and 2 and the rest of the team from set 4, when all the other teams have uniform set possibilities for their whole team. (Perhaps... Are Flygon/Empoleon/Floatzel and Regirock and Lati@s maybe randomly inserted into the last (or some single) slot on the Trainer's team or something? I.e., is it possible for Manuel to have both Flygon and Empoleon on his team, or Flygon and Empoleon and Floatzel?)

Also, what in the world is "Water, Grass and Fire '''''old'''''" for the Tier 2 Super {{tc|Chef}}s? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:16, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Oh yeah, thanks for pointing out the ambiguities. I wasn't sure if there was a better way to represent the Trainer's Pokemon data.

Basically the Pokemon Groups represents all the Pokemon that can possibly be used by a Trainer. All the algorithm does is select ''n'' Pokemon from that roster at random, ''n'' being the required number of Pokemon for a challenge. The Battle Chatelaines have fixed teams because their rosters only contain ''n'' Pokemon - the order therefore can still be different.

Basically, all the roster for an Ace Trainer is that of a generic team plus Lati@s (depending on the Ace Trainer's gender). That's why you sometimes see Lati@s if you battle Ace Trainers. Artist Azure is like that but with Regirock (sets 1 and 2) and a Rock/Steel/Ground roster. Though meeting said Regirock is still pretty rare. I've only encountered the non-Veteran's Regirock once. Also, "old" means "Gen (I-V)". Tier-2 chefs don't use Kalos Pokemon. A correction I keep forgetting to make :\

Not really sure why low-tier Skaters use Flygon/Empoleon/Floatzel. I've personally encountered that as well. All I notice is that they all know Aqua Jet or Quick Attack, so maybe it's a priority thing- since Skaters are into speed.

And to answer why the legendaries only come from set 1 and 2, my best answer is that because the way Sets are treated for Legendaries is not the same as other Pokemon. For most Pokemon, you see their set 1 versions at lower-streak battles and they gradually shift towards set 4. Legendaries all start appearing after battle 40, when Pokemon have already been using Set 4 for a while. Notice that all tier-VI Trainers use Set 4 Pokemon for non-Legendaries, but the sets for Legendaries still vary. I guess it was just an arbitrary decision to have Sets 1 and 2 made available for non-Veterans.

Let me know if you have any ideas on how to better represent the data. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 05:00, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

:So does this all just come purely from observation/massive "trial and error" at the Battle Maison and Battle Institute? (That's quite a feat, if so.) I'll have to think for a while about what you've said and what is (or should be) on the pages. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:32, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

::No, I believe this was datamined from the game by Smogon- like how everyone else gets this information. Pretty much get raw data with a list of Trainers and a list of their Pokemon, and it's up to us to sort what sort of team is what. The guys at Smogon thought it would be a good idea to have the information consolidated here, where it can be viewed neatly. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 05:56, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
:::Can you link me where that data was released or whatever? Looking at it fresh, in a more raw or basic format, might help me get some ideas or understand some things better. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:05, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

::::[http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/BattleMaisonTrainers.txt List of Trainers]
::::[http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/BattleMaisonData.txt List of Pokemon]
::::Most lists aren't actually this nice looking. For the Battle Subway, a list of Trainers' Pokemon would be given by the Pokemon's Subway-specific id, and then cross-referenced from there. The seemingly-arbitrary ID number for the Pokemon actually play a role determining the tier, set, etc, but low-level detail like that I thought could be excluded here. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 06:13, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::I like low-level detail. =3 That low-level detail, are you talking about other pages at that site? If so, I think I mostly found them through Google.
:::::I was kind of fearing that's what the data looked like raw... You may be mostly right with the pages for Maison data (and others) you created, but I'm gonna mull over it all for myself some more anyway. ;) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:25, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

*Dude, you're awesome a give me a favor can you make me a list of the Battle Maison trainer in my native language Spanish, i want know the name in the Spanish version, please, if you can. --[[User:HoopsterJohn|HoopsterJohn]] ([[User talk:HoopsterJohn|talk]]) 20:50, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

*Thank you very much dude, you're the best, these name are the same in XY and ORAS unlike in English language have different one between these games. --[[User:HoopsterJohn|HoopsterJohn]] ([[User talk:HoopsterJohn|talk]]) 21:26, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

FYI, going from the links you gave above, I caught some errors on the Maison Trainer/Pokemon pages you made. (If I identify a Trainer below, any other Trainers that used the same roster also had the same mistake.)
* Set2 Porygon2 is not in the Hail group.
* Delphox/Greninja/Golurk are never in the Psychic/Dark/Ghost groups (respectively).
* Lucetta is not Set 4 Water+Ice, she's Set 4 Dark+Fairy+Normal.
* Bight also uses Ground Pokemon.
* Anastasia only uses Group C/D Psychic types.
I noticed you creating [[User:TehPerson/List of battle area Trainers (Generation VI)/1]], so I thought it would be best to let you know so you could correct any errors you have. I did see that on that page you apparently didn't include Greninja in the Poison/Dark table, though you did include it in the Dark table on [[List of Battle Maison Trainers]], so I don't know if they're more or less randomly introduced errors or what, though. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:05, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
: Oh, thanks for catching those errors! Sometimes my speadsheet bugs up a bit on me :\ [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 04:19, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
: I've come to realize that categorizing the Pokemon isn't the best way to represent Trainer teams. Might as well just do a table for each. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 07:58, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
::I'm just a bit torn about that. Between the two options, I kind of barely favor your new approach.
::The original approach requires a lot of user action to figure out what they want to know. Compared to the new approach, the only thing it's especially useful for is if people want to know the whole list to remix the Trainers' rosters for a game hack. The problem with the new approach, though, is that it can be incredibly repetitive. I mean, you've got tables for Groups A/B and C/D, but then also B/C which overlaps half of each of those, and then type groups which overlap again... The complete straightforwardness of it is the narrowest deciding factor for me. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:58, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

== Talk page responses ==

Please try to keep talk page discussions in one place. If someone replies to your talk page, respond there first, not on their talk page. If you feel they're not noticing after a while, ''then'' you can post something on their talk page (a link back to your talk page might be best, just so, again, the whole conversation remains in one place), but we can't have two sides of a conversation playing out on two separate talk pages like is developing above... That's just ridiculous. Please try to keep it where it started.

Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:36, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
: Oh okay, mods in different wikis, sonetimes even in the same wiki, use different conventions. Did not know if any standards exist here. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 21:47, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

== Battle Masion Trainer classes ==

There are probably a handful of reasons that adding battle area Trainers to the Trainer class pages probably isn't a good idea, but the simplest way to put it is that what you're adding is huge, complicated, and sort of pointless. If you really want to add them, it can be discussed, but in the meantime, please do not keep adding this sort of thing to the TC pages. Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:53, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

== Spanish Pokémon Sun and Moon game text, ==

Hi, man, please can you bring me in txt archive the game text from Pokémon Sun and Moon in spanish language, it's because i want to find a specific name in Alola, can you do it? please. --[[User:HoopsterJohn|HoopsterJohn]] ([[User talk:HoopsterJohn|talk]]) 02:32, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

https://projectpokemon.org/research/sunmoon/gametext.txt this but in spanish language. --[[User:HoopsterJohn|HoopsterJohn]] ([[User talk:HoopsterJohn|talk]]) 04:18, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

== Battle Royal ==

Hey TehPerson! I've noticed the new Battle Royal pages you've been working on recently. Is there any reason why it's not in a table format like [[List of Battle Maison Pokémon]] you also helped to make? Just wondering because I think the table format is much nicer (and keep up the good work) :) --[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(토크)''']] 07:13, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

I figured I'll just stick with the templates we already have to keep it practical. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 05:20, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

== Formatting ==

I must say, I'm very impressed by your extensive lists of Pokémon in various battle facilities. However, I've also noticed something you've been doing wrong: formatting. You use the [[Generation VI]] formatting on moves and items that had had their names written a different way to save character space before that. For example, Dynamic Punch as DynamicPunch, Never-Melt Ice as NeverMeltIce, and so forth. However, these facilities you're making Pokémon lists out of were in games BEFORE this happened, and as such, are written incorrectly for the games they were in. Just wanted to point that put for you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:06, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Oh, that actually is done on purpose since the spreadsheet I'm using only has one type of spelling. I don't manually enter in all these values- it's mostly automated. If you want to help with changing the spelling back, that would be appreciated- but I don't have a complete list of all moves/items that had spelling changes. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 05:19, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

:For moves, the list of changed names can be found {{DL|List of modified moves|Name changes|here}}. As for items... Well, I don't think there are too many of them. TwistedSpoon, NeverMeltIce... The item pages do note if the name of the item has ever been altered. I'll probably get around to helping with fixing this at some point, but I'm not sure when I'll have the time to do it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:35, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

== Pokemon with Hidden Abilities ==

When we have two other pages already for [[List of Pokémon with released Hidden Abilities (Generation V)]] and [[List of Pokémon with released Hidden Abilities (Generation VI)]], please follow that convention as exactly as possible. Either you should have created the Gen VII page at "List of Pokémon with released Hidden Abilities (Generation VII)" in the first place, or when you [[Special:Diff/2654726|went to edit]] the Ability page and saw the existing/uncreated Gen VII link and noticed yours was different, you should have moved your page to the right name.

Additionally, the order you used on your page has, for instance, {{p|Cleffa}} in the Johto section, whereas in the previous generations' pages, Cleffa is with {{p|Clefairy}} in the Kanto section.

Please try to keep these sorts of things in mind in the future. Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:54, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

== USUM Quotes ==

Hi. I just wanted to ask if you're doing the quotes and saving them in each articles one by one? I have actually completed all the quotes for every named NPCs in USUM. Because I'm left with Molayne before I saved everything. Also, the quotes are to be done in storyline order and not in location order. Finally, all answer quotes are to be done with the Options of answers bolded and not by asterisk. Thanks. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 21:40, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

: Storyline order would make way more sense for quotes. As for the other questions, I just referred to other articles to see what the current conventions are. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 21:44, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

== Battle Frontier ==

You have a history of making major changes without approval. I'm going to start here by generally reiterating that if you want to make any major change, please ask someone on {{bp|staff}} about it.

As far as the Battle Frontier pages go, splitting pages are decisions to be made by the {{bp|Editorial Board}}. You must get approval from {{bp|staff}} before splitting pages, you cannot just do it when you think you're ready. For the Gen III one, you may have thought you had permission after SnorlaxMonster's response to you on the talk page (and I'm not sure at the moment what he necessarily intended), but as far as I can tell you did not have even a hint at permission to split the Gen IV page.

Additionally, when you have userpages mocking up a page for the mainspace, do not just copy that code and edit it into the mainspace article. If there's a userpage, it should be ''moved'' into the mainspace with the wiki's move function. If you're not able to do this, then ask a {{bp|staff}} member for help. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:34, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

== Removing class links ==

While I greatly appreciate you uploading us VS models from the Let's Go games, while adding them to pages, please stop removing class links from Pokémon Trainers and Gym Leaders. Without those, their Trainer class links will wind up as redirect links. Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:51, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

== Quotes ==

When adding quotes, instead of leaving them incomplete, please use a text dump and/or YouTube videos to add all of them at once instead of in bits. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:49, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
:If you'd like to help, that would be much appreciated. But I do not have the text dump and cannot find them. Nor do I have my Switch with me at the time. In short, "I would if I could, but I can't so I shan't." [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 22:20, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

== Eggs ==

What was the point of [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_Egg&curid=9520&diff=2914481&oldid=2914421 this] edit? It seems to just make a ton more white space at first glance, but I think you were trying to separate them somehow but I can't tell how. However, in all honestly that list needs a serious overhaul its a mess. There should be a way to organize the information for what Pokémon are in what egg, and when they were available in that type of egg. A list of currently and previously doesn't help anybody since someone could have eggs from 2017 still. Not sure if you were trying to separate them somehow by availability, but there has to be a better way to organize it. '''[[User:Lady Ariel|Lady]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|Ariel]]''' 00:00, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
:I noticed the previous iteration had it separated by generation, and I forgot to do half of that when I updated the list in a slight rush, looking back. So half the cells had a break every 15, and the other had a break between generations, and it was inconsistent. If you want, I can just have it broken up so that there's a line break every X entries. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 00:10, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
::I think in general the entire table should be reformatted to list the dates, the Pokémon, and egg distance they are in. And like the Field Research page, probably use a gray background for ones that are current. Currently the entire section makes little sense as to what was in the eggs at any given time. '''[[User:Lady Ariel|Lady]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|Ariel]]''' 00:28, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
:::I agree on that too, since egg lists are constantly being updated like Raids. However, I currently don't have the entire history of eggs on hand, so it'll be quite a task for me do myself. I also want to include mention on possible Stardust/Candy yields from hatching each egg, but keep getting inconsistent information from source to source. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 00:39, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
::::If you can actually get the entire history of Eggs, I'd be very interested to know it. I'm really not a fan of having "current" and "old" in the same table for Eggs anyway. I think all current hatchables should have their own table (and pure minisprites isn't my favorite either), and old hatches should be dealt with in some separate fashion. Knowing the entire history would help know what kind of format could best show all necessary information. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:46, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
:::::I think the candy and Stardust from each hatched egg is pretty dependent on how strong the Pokémon is when it hatches. Quite a bit of the history of the egg hatches is mentioned on the page, in a very messy format. The others are pretty well documented by users and other sites. As for the minisprites, I think using the images of them from Pokémon GO would be a much better alternative. Even if we left some information as blank for now, that would signal for other users to help contribute what they can. '''[[User:Lady Ariel|Lady]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|Ariel]]''' 01:04, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
::::::[https://www.serebii.net/pokemongo/eggs.shtml Serebii has a page] that documents the history of eggs throughout updates, but it's kinda sloppy and appears to include eggs that may no longer be available in its tables for newer updates. I've been reading sources that Candy given depends on the amount of Stardust, and Power Up level of hatched Pokémon now depend strictly on the Trainer's level at the time of receiving eggs. Niantic updates the game pretty fast, so it's hard to keep track of which sources are still relevant. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 01:09, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
:::::::From what I have been told, [https://thesilphroad.com/egg-distances] this is one of the better sites to check for information. I don't think they have the old hatches documented anywhere on their site, but the [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/ Reddit] posts for them likely have them somewhere. '''[[User:Lady Ariel|Lady]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|Ariel]]''' 01:18, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
::::::::Serebii is at least still 90% accurate and more organized with legacy information. I can get started on a spreadsheet using Serebii's information, then corroborate it with that from /r/TheSilphRoad. As far as I see so far, Serebii's tables include all the eggs, but also includes eggs that shouldn't be there. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 01:22, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::I think that will work. Normally we don't like using Serebii's information, but as long as we can verify it with other source(s) then its usually fine. '''[[User:Lady Ariel|Lady]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|Ariel]]''' 01:26, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
::::::::::If there are other sources, use those. Do not steal from Serebii. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:04, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::::Trust but verify. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 03:19, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
::::::::::::That sounds too glib for me to be sure you understand. Are you going to use any information that we would only find on Serebii? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:31, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::::::I already see too many inconsistencies in the most recent page to trust that. My intention is to compare the results to update notices on SilphRoad and other GO-related sources. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 03:49, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

By the way, I don't know if you took my initial comment as purely rhetorical...but I meant just what I said. If you have gathered info on all Egg "sets", I would appreciate if you would lay that out. I do not really think that just noting species as previously available with no distinctions is the best way. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:04, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
:The info I have isn't complete. If I were to let's say, add a column to the table noting dates of availability, it would only be 40% complete. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 15:00, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
::Let me be even more explicit. When I say I'm interested in the data...honestly, I'm not looking for the final product that you synthesize from that data. To try to make up an example, if Bulbasaur was in 2k Eggs in January and February, but Charmander was in 2k Eggs in January but in 5k in February, if your final product would say "Jan-Feb" for Bulbasaur, it would be hard to tease out that that spans two different sets of Eggs (or to put it another way, that Bulbasaur's change in March was a third set, not just a second).
::So, what I would like to know is, in short, every full Egg set and their dates. That way I can examine it and try to think about what I think might make a good solution—whether whatever you may try is okay or whether there may be a better option. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:50, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Can I get an explicit acknowledgement of whether you intend to display the full data you're gathering, like I mentioned above? (I just don't want to wait for weeks only to ask then and find out you moved on long ago.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:06, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
:Final product may look like what it already does on the List of Eggs page, just more complete. (eg 2 Km available jun to nov 2016, etc) Probably going to chip away at it as time goes by, since Egg data being as dynamic as it is, isn't as easy to gather all at once. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 01:25, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

I guess it's been a while, so I'd just like to poke you again and ask if you're still working on the data. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:09, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
:Since this^ was easy to miss... [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:55, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

== Templates, again ==

You've been told a couple times [[#Templates|above]] to make templates in your userspace first and ask for approval. Please respect this request. If you make us keep cleaning up templates we don't want, you may face a block for insubordination. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:56, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
:k [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 21:50, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

== GO availability ==
I'd like to suggest a bit of a project regarding GO to you. I previously wanted to add a GO availability on species pages—things like "nestable", "hatchable only", "raids only", "research only" (and that's not exhaustive). However, this idea was not supported. A part of me has thought of making a dedicated page listing this sort of availability for all species, but I haven't had the time. Would you be interested in making a userpage? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:09, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
:Oh, I'm actually working on one right now. Currently still on a spreadsheet, but for starters, would include the initial release date and a "notes" column denoting stuff like regional exclusivity, egg only, etc. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 20:40, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
::I made a preliminary version [[User:TehPerson/List of Pokémon by availability (GO)|here]]. Feel free to play around with it, fill in any holes, etc. As for the Egg data, I was only able to get a limited amount using web archives, so at the moment, I'm going to focus on tasks I know can be finished short term. I can still share the spreadsheet I have, but it's messy and incomplete at best. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 22:04, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

== Pokémon Go ==

I responded to your split proposal at [[Talk:Pokémon GO#Page Splitting]]. Since you started that discussion in February and no one else has commented, I would say be [[wp:WP:BOLD|BOLD]] and <del>just make the split yourself</del> <ins>mainspace your draft pages as soon as you feel comfortable doing so</ins>. [[User:Qzekrom|Qzekrom]] ([[User talk:Qzekrom|talk]]) 04:26, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

== Pages ==

Can you let me do the rest? [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 23:32, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

== G-Max base moves ==

For signature G-Max Moves, should it be noted which base moves the Pokémon knowing the G-Max Move cannot learn and thus never legitimately use as base moves? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:31, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
: I guess if you want to it would be helpful to have that info on there, but for now I'm just copy-pasting the info from the Max Moves' pages just so the page has some degree of completion. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 16:35, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
::Once you've done that, can you help with adding the notifications? Also, I'm looking forward to you uploading more VS models from Sword and Shield. Especially the Breeder ones. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:38, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

== Dens ==

Can you explain where the information about the Pokemon in the dens comes from, as well as how the mechanics like rates and common/rare were found or where they were explained? Some of it is far from clear to me just based on the tables you've added to [[Dappled Grove]]. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:45, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
: [https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/pokemon-sword-and-shield-datamine-thread.3656143/ Here]. The rate is basically the % of encountering each species given a specific difficulty level (difficulty rates vary depending on Gym badges). It might not sound so intuitive at first to you, but for people who've spent hours hunting Max Raids, the rates are very self explanatory. The rare dens have a ~10% chance of spawning each time-you can test this with the soft-reset trick with Wishing Pieces. Let me know if you want to help out with doing the rest. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 22:00, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
::The problem is, most of our users really aren't "people who've spent hours hunting Max Raids". =P
::I'll try to look over it and figure out how we can be more user-friendly here. One quick question: are the "rare" raids perhaps the special ones with the purple beam of light? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:42, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
:::Yes. To be analogous, you can treat the "★★★" dividers the same as you would for the weather conditions shown in the other encounter tables on the same page. The den, depending on your number of badges, will:
:::1. Pick a common (red light, red background) or rare (purple light, yellow background) pool
:::2. Pick a difficulty (1 to 5 stars) - distribution greatly varies depending on # of badges; and there's currently no complete knowledge of what the rates are
:::3. Then use those encounter % values to pick a species
:::Imo you probably won't be able to find a more user-friendly way of displaying this unless it's just adding an explanation to the top. [https://www.serebii.net/swordshield/maxraidbattles/den6.shtml Serebii's way of displaying rates] makes no intuitive sense (it looks like a Drifloon has a 20% chance of being 2-star and a 30% chance of being 3-star; in reality it's the other way around- 2-star has 20% chance of Drifloon and 3-star has 30% chance...)
:::And to further condense the information, you may notice a lot of redundant listings (e.g. a "Sword-exclusive" Onix at 20% and a "Shield-exclusive" Onix at 20% on the same table); that can ofc be done away with later, but I want to get the basic info on there first. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 02:57, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
::::The data you've added doesn't seem to line up with the dumped data ([https://pastebin.com/C1bcXHcS Sword], [https://pastebin.com/AfWZ6wz4 Shield]), at least in the couple of cases I checked.
::::For example, on [[Dappled Grove]], you listed Budew as appearing in 35% of 1★ Raids, where it is between levels 15-20. In the dumped data, while all 4 of the Budew raids occur for 35% of 1★ Raids at their respective Dens, it instead appears between level 25-30. In fact, the dumped data doesn't include any raids for level 15-20.
::::Of course, this doesn't align with my own in-game experience. For example, I have a Sizzlipede that I caught in a rare raid (purple pillar) in the [[Rolling Fields]] at Level 17 in Pokémon Shield, but the dumped data indicates that all Sizzlipede are level 25-30. (It's also worth noting that your list of Dens on the Rolling Fields page doesn't include Sizzlipede in any Max Raid Battle.)
::::So the levels in the dumped data appear to be incorrect. Do you know if they're just a case of being off by a constant, or are they just not used at all? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:44, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::That data was imo hard to decipher and it took me a while to understand it before I was able to parse it properly. Basically:
:::::* Ignore the "1-star, 2-star" in front of each Pokemon's name. That's also where they derived the level. The actual star is the "1-star desired, etc" fields. Good chance these errors are there because of the way the dataminers parsed and deciphered the raw data. It also implies the TR rewards for each Raid, regardless of difficulty is the same, even though that's empirically false.
:::::* Personal experience also tells me (outside of Wild Area News) level is dictated by difficulty. There's also the fact that newer players may see their levels scaled down from higher difficulty raids, but I know nothing of the mechanics regarding that.
:::::* Can't say much about the Sizzlipede from Rolling Fields, other than the fact that Sizzlipede can only come from Fire-type pools. Are you able to re-verify which Den in Rolling Fields has Fire-types?
:::::[[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 17:02, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
::::::I really haven't done this much, but there appear to be [https://pastebin.com/u/SciresM updates] that happen to have level 17 Sizzlipede, so that could be where it came from. I noticed Pokewiki has something others don't, but [[:de:Naturzone|I don't really know what that is]]. Levels per stars seems to make sense. Also, SnorlaxMonster's userpages appear to be buggy (see Ditto rates). Not really into it (yet), but is it possible that the levels just upgrade once you defeat Eternatus, much like regular encounter Pokémon do? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:09, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Oh right! I totally forgot that Wild Area News allows Sizzlipede to spawn in all Dens for Shield. I've been meaning to make similar rate tables for the various Wild Area News events later on. However, Wild Area News spawns always have the red light, not purple... so I'm not sure if that quite addresses SnorlaxMonster's issue. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 17:37, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
::::::::Hmm, maybe I'm misremembering the purple pillar for Sizzlipede. It's easy for me to confirm where it was caught and what level it was caught at, but the type of pillar that it came from was purely from memory.
::::::::Regarding the Star ratings, that it's solely based on the "Desired" values is basically what I figured. And yes, my experience is also that levels depend on the star rating of the raid.
::::::::Looking at the Ditto rates in [[User:SnorlaxMonster/Raids#Den 26|my tables]], it looks like it's just a case where the code I used to generate those tables assumed that there weren't any cases of two different entries for a raid at the same Den with the same name (i.e. including the "X-Star" part of the raid name). In the actual source data, the rates do sum to 100%.
::::::::For level scaling, my guess would simply be that players who don't have all of the Badges would have a high-level Raid Boss scaled down to their maximum catchable level. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:20, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::It does seem your table looks more compact than the ones I put on the mainspaces. I think if level is the only issue, then it can just be excluded, and mention on the [[Max Raid Battle]] page that Stars determine level- after all, understanding how Stars translate to level would just make listing levels redundant. The only exception would be ofc the [[Wild Area News]] raids, which have their own fixed levels. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 17:01, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps my initial request was unclear, but I've read the Smogon link now and it didn't answer my questions at all.

I was hoping to know:
# How/Where you got the information about which Pokemon are in which dens
# How/Where you got the information about how the raids are generated (star level, rates for possible occupants, etc)
Generally, I'd appreciate if you could be as specific as possible. That particularly includes links (like not just giving me the start of another thread where the relevant post may be I-have-no-idea-where in dozens upon dozens of pages, please =P ). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:37, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
:I see you were active somewhat. Can you please answer? If there's no answer, we have to doubt the data. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:44, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
::I have it on one of my spreadsheets, and I ''think'' it's from [https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonSwordAndShield/comments/dz88r6/wild_area_den_number_map_version_20/ here], which cites a couple sources that seem to corroborate each other. (One's in Japanese so I don't know if it's circular reporting.) There was another source on the same subreddit linked [https://game8.co/games/pokemon-sword-shield/archives/273708#hl_2 here] (I can't find the original thread with the fancy, corresponding spreadsheet). IIRC the last source labels the Dens in a different order, but when cross-referenced they all match - for these conventions I deferred to Serebii's because that's the one sourced the most right now. The fact that at least 2 sources using 2 different naming conventions but resulting in the same data indicates that the sources at least aren't circularly confirmed. (And from personal experience, the Dens all seem to match (From memory, I can personally confirm all the ones in Bridge Field and the ones with GMax Spawns). But if you need to trial-and-error all of them with Wishing Pieces before mainspacing, that's fine too, but I'm 90+% sure you won't get anything different. Though if you do want to work on that first, I may need to rewrite the script to remove the redundant listings anyways. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 01:14, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
:::I'm going to look through those links (a little quicker this time), but first things first: just don't, ever, take anything at all from Serebii. Just nothing. Make up something sensible instead. (I kinda sorta don't even look at Serebii myself.) The short version is, we do not at all want to have any room to be accused of taking anything at all from Serebii.
:::Just for now, from the briefest check of the links...I would generally advise that the game8.co link is probably also not something we should just take from. In short: if it's not a crowd-sourced kind of site (roughly speaking, by users for users), you should probably ask permission before using their info (without adding a citation, anyway; there are certainly places where we cite other sites for detailed mechanics). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:21, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
{{indent}}OK... The Reddit page says the user took everything from Serebii and that "wiki" (which doesn't look like an actual wiki as far as I can tell). Taking info from Serebii means that's right out. Putting that aside for a moment or two...

I tried looking again at [https://pastebin.com/AfWZ6wz4 the raid data from Kaphotics]. I looked for a Gigantamax Pokemon and found {{p|Charizard}}'s nest, and found that on [[Lake of Outrage]]. I think I can get where the "Rare" den list comes from. But I'm quite mystified about the "Common" list. Can you please explain to me how you got the data for the "common" list for [[Lake of Outrage#Den C]]? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:06, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
:Not sure if this fully answers the question, but basically a "Common" raid is anything with the red light. If it's anything from the [[Wild Area News]] pool, which is always red, 90%+ chance it's from News and not the native Den. As for getting the "common" list, it's the exact same way I got the rare one. I copied the entire pastebin file onto a spreadsheet, used some scripts/formulas, and parsed them into BP templates. For both the Shield and Sword files, Nest 1 - 42 are all common and 43+ are all rare (in the order which they appear on the pastebin). And if you want to sample multiple raids to make sure it's the right pool (since many pools share a few Pokemon in common), you can use that [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdPRbS-HwSc clock reset] trick to reroll a different Pokemon (which only works if you use a Wishing Piece, otherwise the raid may just despawn). [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 21:03, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
::Are you saying that each Nest ID in Kaphotics' data does not correspond to exactly 1 den?
::I noticed that there are 100 dens and 93 Nest IDs, but I wasn't sure what to think besides go crazy. But if some of those Nest IDs are common lists and some rare—and some of the dens use the same list for one thing or another—then it could make sense. (Theoretically, I suppose one Nest ID could be the common set for one den and rare for another...)
::The "desired" part under the selection probabilities has always made me think there's something particularly special about it, and that there must be a more plain "non-desired" mechanic or something, but if I just ignore the word "desired" and treat the selection probabilities like simple pieces of the puzzle for an encounter table (that may apply to "common" or "rare" selections...unrelated to anything directly in Kaphotics' file, at least), it probably can be applied to all the Wild Area dens.
::...The problem remains that we can't use all the data built off of Serebii's data. I'm going to attempt to correlate Kaphotic's data from the ground up. For the meantime, the raid data will have to be removed. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:10, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

== PoGo information ==

I deleted the pages you tagged, but in case we decide to expand our Go information (which we should), I may want to bring some of those back, or at least tag you in to assist the project. The information looked good. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:57, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

== Wyndon Stadium split ==

I'm grateful that you split the Wyndon Stadium article. It was in need of that. But I would also like to mention that I had already brought this split idea up with Force Fire, who was waiting for a staff decision before doing it, and I was waiting for his reply on the matter. Did you get a permission to do the split? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:34, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
:No, but considering I was the one who originally created that article, lack of foresight on my part was the reason why it was so huge in the first place. I pretty much figured common sense would warrant splitting it rather than go through the administrative bottleneck. But if it's really that big of a deal, then in hindsight, it would have made more sense had I just made it a split from the start. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 14:06, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

== Contest data list ==

Hey, I was hoping maybe you would like to have a look at [[Talk:List of moves]]? I noticed that some years ago, you did some work related to contests. It seems like there used to be a dedicated userpage of yours (User:TehPerson/List of Contest moves) that was [[Special:Permalink/2427162|this list]]? Is that data correct ORAS data? Why was that userpage deleted? (Is there something that's better?) If you could help, I guess that would.. help. Thanks. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 20:05, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
: Was simply not needed anymore. Before, there was absolutely no list of moves by their contest effects in ORAS. Now the individual condition pages (e.g. [[Cool_(condition)#Hoenn_Contest_Spectaculars|see here]]) have pretty organized sections on relevant moves grouped by their contest effects. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 21:04, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
::Interesting, I didn't know.
::Well, I guess I'm gonna use those, then. Those and maybe what [[Jamming]] has.
::Anyway, by that logic, wouldn't [[List of moves]] be unneeded because moves are listed [[Normal (type)#Moves|at type pages]], or even at [[Physical move#List of moves|move category pages]]?
::I'm actually considering basically recreating your userpage, and whether I want to propose its mainspacing. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 21:39, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Yeah okay. Feel free to move [[User:TehPerson/Sandbox|the template I made]] to your userpage first, since it's so improperly named, as it's one of the first userspace templates I made, and I won't be working on it anyways. (I'd recommend the name [[User:Nescientist/movelist/contest/6]]). [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 23:21, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
::::Creating this page I'm now pretty confident I will do, but still very unsure about mainspacing. However, I guess I won't be using your proposed name, since I imagine the page would include all generations; probably [[User:Nescientist/Movedata]] or a subpage thereof.
::::Thanks for telling me about the template, and letting me usurp it. I'm not sure how heavily I'd need to edit it, but I might (or might not) move it in the following days. I'm gonna suggest mainspacing the final template if and only if I'll also do so for the main page, if that's alright. (If you have a preference, still feel free to share it.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:10, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

== Sinistea ==

Can I ask where you got the info that {{p|Sinistea}} can't hatch in Antique form? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:05, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
:Common knowledge I guess? Though I can't datamine the game, so I won't be able to ''prove'' it per se. But people have reported in various places that Antique breeds into Phony, but zero accounts of Antique breeding into Antique, or Phony breeding into Antique (unless you can direct me to one). [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 14:47, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
::If you're just taking it from other people, and if it's something like that that's far from a trivial check to figure out if it's correct, you should probably add a citation to somewhere so that claims can be checked (like, did someone just check a couple dozen Eggs and say, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!1). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:07, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
:::So...will you do me a favor and add a citation to someplace? We really can't claim something so absolute without being able to point to ''something'' that can be checked. (And you're the one who'll have some idea where you've seen good evidence.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:44, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
::::Honestly, this is so trivial I'd rather you just edit that information out than me do the impossible of proving a negative. (I can't decode the source code, and I'm not going to hatch 10 boxes of Eggs, sorry). Contrary to perception, finding an Antique form isn't that hard, so if anyone was able to breed one, then it would already be common knowledge. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 07:50, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
::::::I'm sorry, I thought I was clear enough that I wasn't expecting "proof". (Guess not.)
::::::Just go wherever you saw someone give an account of hatching lots and link to that. Something at least more testable than unadorned "fact". [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:25, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::::[https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/f7p3t2/sword_shield_daily_casual_trade_thread/fig6696/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x Here] is my ridiculously generous offer I just posted on /r/pokemontrades to trade a Melmetal (currently the most sought after for Casual Trades) for a hatched Antique Form. It is the biggest online community to negotiate trades - and if this can't prove the point, then that means you're solely looking for datamining. If a hatched Antique Form were legal, this trade would be fulfilled within an hour. But I'm near certain this will go unfulfilled, but with people telling me that what I'm searching for is not legal, or people making an unhatched or Phony Form counteroffers instead. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 18:48, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
::::::::That's still not what I was hoping for... That's most liable to just get more "obv that's not possible" 'common knowledge'.
::::::::Alright, guess I really do have to deal with this on my own. Thanks anyway. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:29, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

== Mainspacing Articles ==

Just a reminder, you have been told of this several times over the years but any articles you want to Mainspace NEED to be created within your userpace first. Then it needs to be tagged with the <nowiki>{{Mainspace}}</nowiki> template so that an Admin or Editorial Board member can review the article to see if it can be mainspaced. In the future, please make new pages within your userspace first and wait for admin approval. Refusal to comply with this rule may lead to a block in the future. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 20:03, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

== Regarding Meteor Assault ==
I changed the Move Variations page to note the accuracy difference since other than that, it's basically the same move. (Not withstanding Prismatic Lazer and Eternabeam, which have an additional difference in their base power) If you feel like Meteor Assault still does not count as a Hyper Beam variation despite the noted accuracy difference, let me know and I will not edit it back in. [[User:CoolMan6001|CoolMan6001]] ([[User talk:CoolMan6001|talk]]) 17:26, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

== Transfer-only moves ==

I noticed you did quite a lot there, which is good, but I am also wondering basically why is it that you appear to have started from scratch rather than continue from where Suic and I had started (mainly [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Structure|here]] and [[User talk:Nescientist#Transfer-only moves|here]])?

I was also wondering where you pulled the data from, both the learnsets, and the move data itself (since that had a few errors Spriteit and I have recently fixed). And also, whether you already tried to get approval, or even already have approval, or something..?

Apart from missing events, when I compared [[User:Suic12-/Template:Learnlist/transferh/7|Suic's GenVII Bulbasaur]] to [[User:TehPerson/Transfer-only moves (Generation VII)|yours]] I also noticed that you did include HM moves that were unable to be transferred. (Yeees, I re-read the pages I linked to, which is where I got the idea from.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 10:49, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
:I've never seen it before honestly. I think it's sheer coincidence that our templates actually ended up looking so similar. As for the "starting from scratch" part, I basically took a public database of move sets across all generations, then ran a code to compare cross-generational availability. 99% of what you see there is generated via script. HM moves were included because I never actually took that into consideration. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 13:47, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
::Alright. Let me (us) know if you have approval, and if you have plans to incorporate (or deliberately neglect) some of our ideas. I guess there better be one final product than two conflicting unfinished ones. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 10:25, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
:::I've made some changes to my templates to resemble the parts I liked about Suic's, but just to my [[User:TehPerson/Transfer-only moves (Generation VIII)|Generation VIII]] dataset for now. Now the only main difference between ours, it appears, is simply that my templates allow for linking to the specific subsections of each page based on learn method. Also, my dataset doesn't have full info on event-only moves, so I might be missing a chunk of those. Feel free to edit what's on my userspace if you like. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 01:05, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
::::Hey there, just saw this all happening a while ago. I've been away for a while, so it took me some time to catch up with the progress that has happened in the meantime. For what I saw, the work you've been doing regarding transfer-only moves seems to be very good, and I appreciate that more people are (independently) interested in this matter. I haven't really done much about it lately, but since you seem to be with a good momentum, and given that our templates are very similar overall, I would encourage you to change what you see fitting in my templates to match the ones you already made, if there is any need (if you already made them all, that's also fine, then you can feel free to incorporate to your templates whatever ideas or features you like from mine). You probably saw that by now, but just in case, the topic about transfer-only move in Nescientist's talk page covers what we had discussed about it, along with some conclusions we reached. What I had the most trouble with at the time was writing a script to compare all needed movesets, but yours seems to be doing very well, so that's great. I just think that we should make it so that it can properly categorize moves that cannot be transfered, such as HM moves in some Generations and moves from Pokémon like Cosplay Pikachu, and event/special moves, as was already mentioned. The other important part is getting approval, so if you think we heve enough to start this part, we can try talking to some staff members and show them what we have so far. And of course, I'm available to help in anyway I can, so just give me a shout if you need. [[User:Suic12-|Suic]] ([[User talk:Suic12-|talk]]) 03:04, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::Hey there, I'd like to make absolutely sure you saw [[User:Nescientist/Project Trace]]. I'd kindly ask you to watch it and its talkpage, and react as if it were yours. :) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 19:51, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

== List of Battle Maison Trainers/Garçon/1 ==

Hello, just wanted to let you know that the roster for Basim/Joel seems to be messed up after Durant. It does not match other trainers that should be using the same roster. [[User:Ltleelim|Ltleelim]] ([[User talk:Ltleelim|talk]]) 15:25, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

== Cramomatic ==

Can you tell me where you got the info you've added to [[Cram-o-matic]]? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:20, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
:Discord research thread, which I'm also helping out with a little. Left a commented link to the master spreadsheet under the incomplete tag. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 16:35, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

== Starter G-Max Moves ==

The starter Pokémon's G-Max Moves' power tables were hidden because they were not confirmed to be the same as other Max Moves. Please don't unhide table like that unless you can actually confirm that they are accurate. As it turns out, those G-Max Moves do not use the same tables as other Max Moves, so your edit added incorrect information. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:16, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

== Template:MSP/GO ==

My apologies, I was attempting to fix the error that was mentioned on [[Template talk:MSP/GO|the talk page]], if you could have a look at fixing it I'd appreciate it. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 22:51, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
:When it comes to tables, there needs to be a new line break after each <code>|</code>, so the Special Research page is an easy fix. But when it comes to the bullet lists, it acts funny again, and I'm still looking into the issue. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 23:14, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

== Battle Frontier Trainers Gen III ==

Last year you did some consolidating on the Gen III Battle Frontier trainer pages, moving Black Belt & Battle Girl to the same page & a bunch of trainer classes to the [[List_of_Battle_Frontier_Trainers_(Generation_III)/Youngster|Youngster]] page for example. Do you mind if I move them back to separate pages? The Youngster page in particular is very crowded. [[User:Lagnic|Lagnic]] ([[User talk:Lagnic|talk]]) 14:23, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

== GO Battle League rank sprites ==

Hello, I'm giving [[GO Battle League]] a desperately-needed update and saw you were the one to upload the existing rank icons. I have no clue how to retrieve high-quality images from the app — any chance you would be able to? We're missing the new low-rank icon as well as the top ranks.
--[[User:Swampert rox|'''Swampert''']][[User talk:Swampert rox|'''rox''']] 04:00, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

== BDSP Battle Tower Pokémon's natures ==

Hello, a question, are you going to put the respective natures of every Pokémon used in the BDSP Battle Tower? --[[User:ScientistRafa|ScientistRafa]] ([[User talk:ScientistRafa|talk]]) 20:59, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
:No, I left that out. The final base stat calculations already have the Natures factored in. If you want to see the IVs, EVs and Nature, you could look here instead: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/bdsp-battle-tower-discussion-records.3693739/
:[[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 22:56, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

== Gen IV Battle Tower/Frontier Trainers ==

Think you got mixed up when changing the Battle Frontier trainer pages to the new template. Currently the PtHGSS pages are duplicates of the DP pages. [[User:Glik|glik]][[User talk:Glik|glak]] 21:45, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
: It's likely that's bound to happen on a couple. Oops. Can you let me know which ones, and I can go put in the correct ones. Thanks. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 16:04, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
: EDIT: Nvm, I saw what you were talking about- the Pokemon were duplicates, not Trainers. My PtHGSS Trainers data was incorrectly pointing to the DP Pokemon set. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 16:17, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

== I've a question about your Giovanni trivia ==

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Giovanni_(GO)&curid=262745&diff=3462804&oldid=3462346

When does he use Hippowdon or Garchomp? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 04:29, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
:Black 2 White 2 at PWT. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 07:35, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
::Ah, thanks. Glad I asked before blindly undoing it. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:28, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

== Missing female eevee models ==

Hi there TehPerson. I originally posted this in the Bulbagarden Archives, but seeing how you're not as active there, I'm posting it again here:

A few days ago, I was looking through the [[Eevee (Pokémon)#Sprites|Eevee (Pokémon)]] page and I noticed that the female models were missing from its sprites section. I tried modifying the template so that it would display them, but I immediately noticed that the female models from sw/sh were completely absent (the template has since been edited and you can now see this glaring omission).

Since you seem to have originally uploaded the [[a:File:Spr 8s 133.png|male eevee models]] from sw/sh, as well as the [[a:File:HOME133.png|male]] and [[a:File:HOME133 f.png|female]] eevee models from home, I was wondering if you wouldn't mind uploading the missing female eevee models (I myself don't know how to make them the way you did). I would really appreciate it :) [[User:AlternateRT|Alt]] ([[User talk:AlternateRT|talk]]) 22:08, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
:Sprites were all made by another user over a year ago- I just helped upload them. I don't think she's been active lately. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 20:23, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

== Sprites ==

Where did you get images for generation 8 Pokemon sprites?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 16:59, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
:[[User:Lady Ariel]] helped make them a while back. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 20:23, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

== Contact Info ==

Good day! I was attempting to send you an email but I noticed that your "email user" function is turned off. I was wondering if you had another way I could contact you? Perhaps on the Bulbagarden Forums or Discord if you had an account? Let me know. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 02:00, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

== Battle facility data ==

Since you're the one who created the pages for battle facility Pokémon, I have a question - what is the source for these Pokémon? The Emerald Frontier Brains' Pokémon are not on [[List of Battle Frontier Pokémon (Generation III)|the list]], unlike other relevant bosses (with the only other missing data being ORAS helpers - understandable, considering they use ORAS Megas and thus have to be ORAS-exclusive data). [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 12:29, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
:Honestly, I downloaded this data into my personal spreadsheets 6+ years ago, and I can't exactly remember. It was in the raw datamined format, and I parsed through them- but those sites or links no longer seem to be online. Anyways, I dug through my Drive, and here's the Emerald info you're looking for: https://pastebin.com/iWuW44bu. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 21:57, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

So you're the one who ruined everything with these stupid new layouts. the picture for each Pokémon is way too small, the strecthed out moveset list is confusing to read, and words blend too much into the colors making it so you have to squint to have any chance of making out the words. I know this was done for super competive players by there are a lot of people who play a lot more casually and couldn't care less about this whole EV and nature nonsene. I in particular just want to see what Pokémon a character owns and what thier movesets are and the old layout was simple easy and had a nice look. So if you have to have the disgusting new look could you at least give the option to be able to toggle between it and oringal better one that way you won't be forced people away from site by keeping this useless new look.

== Question about GO sprites ==

Hello there. First, I want to say thanks for uploading most of the sprites from the game, I really appreciate it.

I would have a request. The next time you'll upload more GO sprites, could you update sprites for Galarian Ponyta (and its GO Fest costume) and Heliolisk? They're fixed for some time already (with that I mean Ponyta's white mane on forehead and Heliolisk's glowing head).

Thanks in advance! [[User:Piotrek1113|Piotrek1113]] ([[User talk:Piotrek1113|talk]]) 11:58, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
:Okay. There's actually quite a few others I need to update as well. Thx for the reminder. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 20:23, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

== Congratulations! ==

Congrats to you on the promotion to Junior Administrator! --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006!]]''''' [[User talk:Bfdifan2006|Or is he actually]] [[Special:Contributions/Bfdifan2006|Keyacom?]] 15:47, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
:Thanks. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 20:23, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

== [[User:TehPerson/MoveInfobox]] ==

I could edit it to add a <nowiki>{{{cat}}}</nowiki> parameter, so e.g. on documentation pages, all categorizing can be disabled if desired. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006!]]''''' [[User talk:Bfdifan2006|Or is he actually]] [[Special:Contributions/Bfdifan2006|Keyacom?]] 12:54, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
:And I did. I did so to make sure [[User talk:TehPerson/MoveInfobox]] is not categorized as a move. Also, someone forgot to add BDSP and PLA TM/tutor info, so I added that. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006!]]''''' [[User talk:Bfdifan2006|Or is he actually]] [[Special:Contributions/Bfdifan2006|Keyacom?]] 15:02, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
::Feel free to make whatever changes are on it. It's just a draft until the staff okays it anyways. I wasn't even aware the Infobox was that outdated. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 15:15, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

== [[User:TehPerson/TM learnlist (Generation VIII)]] pages ==

I think I can remove Pokémon that were eventually released in SwSh from these lists? They just sat there after their release for IoA and CT. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006!]]''''' [[User talk:Bfdifan2006|Or is he actually]] [[Special:Contributions/Bfdifan2006|Keyacom?]] 17:30, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
:That page is no longer needed- I have quite a few scrapped User pages I need to flag for deletion. And going forward, you can just comment on those page's respective Talk pages instead. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 17:58, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
::I think that these pages might come useful for some. I will just remove Pokémon that were eventually released in SwSh (but not BDSP or PLA), and fix some mistakes (notably, moves with 0 or fixed damage being marked as STAB moves for some Pokémon). --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006!]]''''' [[User talk:Bfdifan2006|Or is he actually]] [[Special:Contributions/Bfdifan2006|Keyacom?]] 18:19, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
:::Or I could move them to my userspace (and marked that initially, it was you who made it) and keep them there for posterity. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006!]]''''' [[User talk:Bfdifan2006|Or is he actually]] [[Special:Contributions/Bfdifan2006|Keyacom?]] 18:31, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
::::Sorry for literally spamming your talk page, but I deduced that only [[User:TehPerson/TM learnlist (Generation VIII)/3]] is to be deleted, because after weeding out the Pokémon eventually introduced to SwSh, none remain there. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006!]]''''' [[User talk:Bfdifan2006|Or is he actually]] [[Special:Contributions/Bfdifan2006|Keyacom?]] 19:04, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

== Hello ==

Would you help me? I saw that you, with your new position, can have access to the content of deleted pages. Can you see the content that was on this page [[User:Hikaru Wazana/Ash's Rivals|here]]?I was thinking of using some things I put on it at the time, can you help me?--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 03:00, 03 March 2022 (UTC)
:Sorry, my access level isn't that high yet. I can only see the deletion logs, not the deleted content itself. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 03:28, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
::This means that the page about {{bp|Junior Administrators}} just misinformed you, Hikaru. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006!]]''''' [[User talk:Bfdifan2006|Or is he actually]] [[Special:Contributions/Bfdifan2006|Keyacom?]] 07:57, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
:::The JA page did not misinform Hikaru, they just misinterpreted what it was saying, which TehPerson clarified.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:03, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
:::::Okay, thanks a lot anyway.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 12:25, 03 March 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Anabel

2022-02-27T22:08:09Z

Strawhatroger: /* Why are the Battle Facilty Leader all given a new table? */

==Sprite resemblance?==
[[File:Spr RS Psychic F.png|70px]]
Look at this, this is so much like Anabel. We should include this on the page. --[[User:Stinkoman|1-Up]] 20:47, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
:...not really. Sure, there's a possibility her design came from the female Psychic... but eh, I dunno. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 20:49, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

== Leader of the Frontier Brains ==

I don't recall the game ever pointing out a leader amongst the Frontier Brains. Where exactly does it say it? For all I know, Brandon could be the leader just like in the anime. Each facility in the game is a domain to its own; it doesn't require having beaten the others. So how exactly is she the leader? [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 03:06, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
:I honestly don't know. It might be due to the fact that the Battle Tower was there first, but I'm sure that there's an in-canon reference. We usually don't leave fanwank here unless we don't notice it, and given that several of the admins have edited this page, it'd be hard to miss. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:23, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
::Oh, I'm pretty sure there must be an in-game reference too. I just wonder, since I don't recall ever reading that in the game, nor does the article mention where it got that reference. It makes me want to pull out my old Emerald and spend a couple hours searching for it, but not tonight. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 04:29, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
:::So where's the reference? Or we're supposed to just accept anything the admins say as official? - [[User:Spideym|Spideym]] 14:58, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
::::She's their leader in the manga, but in-game I don't think it's been stated. And she ''definately'' isn't in the anime, that's Brandon. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 08:56, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

== Clothes ==

Her clothes look different every where she's portrayed, her artwork, sprites and anime clothes are all different. I'm putting that on the page.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 10:20, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

== Espeon ==

Can`t Espeon read the air currents? so why did the blackout disturbed him?{{unsigned|Ferreronis}}
:Espeon isn't stated to be male. The blackout was more of a distraction for Anabel so Ash could break their focus, per se. [[User:WATERWARRIOR67|WATER]][[User talk:WATERWARRIOR67|Warrior]]67 23:11, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

== Anabel's sex in one of the manga ==

In the Battle Frontier manga there's a rumor that she was changed into a boy. Is that true? I've seen screenshots, and she still seems female. [[User:Dia Sprite|Dia Sprite]] 06:06, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

== Alakazam's VA ==

In her debut episode, Anabel is first seen with an {{p|Alakazam}}. However, I think that there is a mistake regarding Alakazam's voice actor. Maddie Blaustein's voice is last heard in the AG series episode ''[[AG145|Pasta La Vista!]]'', ''twenty-four'' episodes earlier. Unless this was recorded while she was still alive, I think that Alakazam's English voice actor should be changed. [[User:WATERWARRIOR67|WATER]][[User talk:WATERWARRIOR67|Warrior]]67 23:16, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

== Emerald Universe ==
As her SM battle theme (which uses the same GBA trumpets despite there already being a revamped version), as well as her passing through a UB wormhole, heavily implies that she is from the universe of the original games, should it that be stated in the Trivia section?
--[[User:Geektreecko|Geektreecko]] ([[User talk:Geektreecko|talk]]) 04:02, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

: That's currently just speculation at this point. It's not even certain that the original games were in a separate universe. [[User:TechSkylander1518|TechSkylander1518]] ([[User talk:TechSkylander1518|talk]]) 04:05, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

: All of the old games' Battle Tree contenders use their original themes. Even Cynthia, who (like Anabel) has already had revamped versions of her theme in the past. So I wouldn't consider that to be evidence that SM's Anabel came from the original games' universe. A more compelling point might be that Looker says Anabel used to protect a tower (obviously implied to be the Battle Tower), which doesn't exist yet in ORAS... but we're not sure of the timeline between SM and ORAS, so it's fully possible that construction of ORAS's Battle Tower was completed before the events of Sun and Moon. [[User:Castformrain|Castformrain]] ([[User talk:Castformrain|talk]]) 00:52, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Actually, Blue, Red, Cynthia... all use updated versions of their original team, and I do believe that Looker mentoined Anabel sympathised with the UBs because they too were hurdled into another world, all of which does very strongly imply that Anabel came from "the original universe" mentoined by Zinnia in ORAS. Even so I will admit that this is all based on speculation and never outright stated, so it shouldn't make it into the trivia section. Lastly, the official timeline does in fact place ORAS at the same time as th original RSE, and SM take place two years after XY/B2W2.([[User talk:Charmeleon2495|talk]]) 18:18, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
:She did also mention that battling in the Battle Tree made her feel nostalgic as well, which would only make sense if she was a Frontier Brain at the time she was caught in the Ultra Wormhole. All that aside, there is one concrete thing we can use. Looker mentioned Anabel was found ten years before the events of SM- if we can figure out exactly how much time elapsed between ORAS and SM, we should be able to deduce whether or not she came from the "original universe".--[[User:UB00|UB00]] ([[User talk:UB00|talk]]) 02:43, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

== Page title ==

Since Anabel now appears in a context very much separate from the Battle Frontier, is it still appropriate to keep her Trainer class in the page title? (For that matter, is it appropriate to have the Trainer classes in ''any'' of the Frontier Brains' page titles? We don't use Trainer classes for virtually any other characters' page titles.) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:43, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
: I would personally say no, but who knows. [[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 06:17, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
::The overarching issue appears to be mentioned [[Talk:Frontier Brain#Individual Frontier Brain page names|here]]. I agree that Anabel's page title (and by extension, any Frontier Brain's) should not unnecessarily include the Trainer class at all. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 11:38, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
:::None of the other Frontier Brains have been part of the games outside of the Frontier. Also I am sure that there have been ordinary trainers who share a name with a Frontier Brain. Wouldn't keeping the Trainer Class in the name help distinguish the character? [[User:RedTheGuy|RedTheGuy]] ([[User talk:RedTheGuy|talk]]) 02:18, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
::::The thing is that we can distinguish them just as easily with a parenthetical, such as Anabel (Battle Frontier). That's what we do with virtually all other pages on this wiki... as far as I know, it's ''just'' the Frontier Brains and a tiny handful of other isolated cases that use Trainer classes to disambiguate instead of parentheticals. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:21, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
:::::I'm ok with {{U|Nescientist}} and {{U|Pumpkinking0192}}'s proposals.--[[User:Mr. Guye|Mr. Guye]] ([[User talk:Mr. Guye|talk]]) 01:53, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
::::::There isn't another ''notable'' Anabel. Everyone who types "Anabel" is expected to be looking for this one, and that's part of why its title should be that. For example, we also have [[Joey]] (i.e., neither "Youngster Joey" nor "Joey (Youngster)"), although it is even mentioned at his article that there are many more (unnotable) Joeys. If another (equally) notable Joey/Anabel/whoever pops up, the article can still be moved. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:52, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
:::::::I wouldn't really have an opinion, but the fact that Joey, if anything a less notable character who has always appeared under the same title, has a page just called Joey, tells me that Anabel should be moved. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 17:09, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
:<s>I support a hypothetical move. Anabel has now established herself in a role that is completely outside the Battle Frontier. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:04, 25 September 2017 (UTC)</s>

Can we call this one concluded? [[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 20:35, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
:Not until a staff ruling is made, no --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 14:48, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
:: Well, yeah, that's pretty much what I'm asking for here. [[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 06:43, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
:::I think it honestly depends on Anabel's potential role in future games. If she's back on the Battle Frontier when new games come out, then no, the page should not be moved. If new games still have her as an independent character, then yes, by all means, move it. My final opinion is that we should probably wait until we get more concrete information. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 10:32, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
::::But then what's the standard for trainer classes in page titles? That part I don't understand. [[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 03:44, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
:::::Perhaps, maybe she comes back in {{series|Sun & Moon}} then we will see how Admin going to decided want to separate and create another page to represent the title or not? [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 10:39, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
::::::I concur with this. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:11, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
:I think it could be moved in the future, her look in Emerald and the Sun and Moon series is 10 years apart as evidenced by her faded and far longer hair and her new attire. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 02:33, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

== Why are the Battle Facilty Leader all given a new table? ==

It looks horrible and confusing, the old one was simple and gave you all the information you needed easily so if it ain't broke don't fix it {{unsigned|Strawhatroger}}
:This template allows the Pokémon's EVs to be displayed, which is important for battle facility Pokémon. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 21:04, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Some people don't care about EV's so how about a compromise to be able to switch between the new and old versions and save your preferences.

Talk:Anabel

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Tucker

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'''Tucker''' (Japanese: '''ヒース''' ''Heath'') is the [[Frontier Brain]] and commissioner of the {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}'s [[Battle Dome]]. He is the only character in the games to have the {{DL|Pokémon Trainer|Trainer class}} '''Dome Ace''' (Japanese: '''ドームスーパースター''' ''Dome Superstar'').

==In the games==
Tucker is a superstar and enjoys the sound of a crowd chanting his name. He appears to dance and perform a moonwalk to entertain the crowd. Tucker prefaces battles with narcissistic comments, and if he loses, turns over the Tactics Symbol to the Trainer's Frontier Pass.

===Pokémon===
Tucker uses two of these Pokémon when battling the {{player}}.
====Silver Symbol challenge====
{{Party/Single|color={{frontier color}}|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}|headcolor={{frontier color light}}
|sprite=Spr E Tucker.png
|prize=13{{color2|000|Battle Point|BP}}
|class=Dome Ace
|classlink=Tucker
|name=Tucker
|game=E
|location=Battle Dome
|pokemon=2

}}|{{Pokémon/3|game=Emerald|ndex=260|pokemon=Swampert|gender=both
|ability=Torrent|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}|type1=Water|type2=Ground|held=Focus Band
|move1=Surf|move1type=Water
|move2=Ice Beam|move2type=Ice
|move3=Earthquake|move3type=Ground
|move4=Counter|move4type=Fighting}}

|{{Pokémon/3|game=Emerald|ndex=373|pokemon=Salamence|gender=both
|ability=Intimidate|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}|type1=Dragon|type2=Flying|held=Lum Berry
|move1=Dragon Claw|move1type=Dragon
|move2=Aerial Ace|move2type=Flying
|move3=Earthquake|move3type=Ground
|move4=Brick Break|move4type=Fighting}}

|{{Pokémon/3|game=Emerald|ndex=006|pokemon=Charizard|gender=both
|ability=Blaze|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}|type1=Fire|type2=Flying|held=White Herb
|move1=Overheat|move1type=Fire
|move2=Aerial Ace|move2type=Flying
|move3=Earthquake|move3type=Ground
|move4=Rock Slide|move4type=Rock}}
{{Party/Footer}}

====Gold Symbol challenge====
{{Party/Single|color={{frontier color}}|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}|headcolor={{frontier color light}}
|sprite=Spr E Tucker.png
|prize=15{{color2|000|Battle Point|BP}}
|class=Dome Ace
|classlink=Tucker
|name=Tucker
|game=E
|location=Battle Dome
|pokemon=2

}}|{{Pokémon/3|game=Emerald|ndex=260|pokemon=Swampert|gender=both
|ability=Torrent|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}|type1=Water|type2=Ground|held=Leftovers
|move1=Surf|move1type=Water
|move2=Ice Beam|move2type=Ice
|move3=Earthquake|move3type=Ground
|move4=Mirror Coat|move4type=Psychic}}

|{{Pokémon/3|game=Emerald|ndex=376|pokemon=Metagross
|ability=Clear Body|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}|type1=Steel|type2=Psychic|held=Quick Claw
|move1=Meteor Mash|move1type=Steel
|move2=Psychic|move2type=Psychic
|move3=Earthquake|move3type=Ground
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}

|{{Pokémon/3|game=Emerald|gender=female|ndex=380|pokemon=Latias
|ability=Levitate|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}|type1=Dragon|type2=Psychic|held=Chesto Berry
|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic
|move2=Calm Mind|move2type=Psychic
|move3=Thunderbolt|move3type=Electric
|move4=Rest|move4type=Psychic}}
{{Party/Footer}}

===Quotes===
;Initial battle
*Before battle
:''"Ahahah! Do you hear it? This crowd! They're all itching to see our match! Ahahah! I bet you're twitching all over from the tension of getting to battle me! But don't worry about a thing! I'm the no. 1 star of the <sc>Battle Dome!</sc> I, <sc>Tucker</sc> the <sc>Dome Ace</sc>, will bathe you in a brilliant glow! Your strategy! Let's see it! The final match! <{{player}}> versus the <sc>Dome Ace, Tucker</sc>! Let the battle begin!"''

*Being defeated
:''"Grr... What the..."''

*If the player is defeated
:''"Ahahaha! Aren't you embarrassed? Everyone's watching!"''

*After being defeated
:''"Rules are rules! Let me see your <sc>Frontier Pass</sc>."''
:''"... ... ... ... ... ... I sorely underestimate you. I won't make the same mistake next time..."''

;Rematch
*Before battle
:''"Ah... The pummeling roar of the crowd... Their furnace-like heat of excitement... This is a wonderful place... To the crowd, I am the <sc>Dome Ace</sc>... I represent their hopes and dreams... I must never fade from their sight... I must burn! Brighter and more brilliant! I must light all that gather here! I will unleash all the power that I possess! Right here and now! The final match! <player> versus the <sc>Dome Ace, Tucker</sc>! Let the battle begin!"''

*Being defeated
:''"Ahahaha! You're inspiring!"''

*If the player is defeated
:''"My <sc>Dome Ace</sc> title isn't just for show!"''

*After being defeated
:''"You're genuinely fantastic! Never before! I haven't ever lost in the times I've had to unleash my power. Yes, quite fantastic! Your <sc>Frontier Pass</sc>, please?"''
:''"You're strong, but above all, you have a unique charm! In you, I see a definite potential for a superstar like me. I will very much look forward to our next encounter!"''

===Sprites===
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|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background: #{{frontier color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Spr E Tucker.png]]
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background: #{{frontier color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Tucker OD.png]]
|-
| Sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
| Overworld sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
|}

==In the anime==
[[File:Tucker anime.png|thumb|250px|Tucker in the {{pkmn|anime}}]]
Tucker appeared in ''[[AG153|Tactics Theatrics!!]]'', where he was revealed to be a superstar with a large fanbase. His challenge consists of a [[Double Battle]], which takes place in the [[Battle Dome]] in front of a large audience. Automatically before the battle, he allows challengers to send in their Pokémon from other locations. Even though {{Ash}} was allowed to do this, he still used two Pokémon from his current [[party]], {{AP|Corphish}} and {{AP|Swellow}}.

Tucker faced off against Ash with his {{p|Arcanine}} and {{p|Swampert}}. Although he was defeated by Ash, he held a strong start for a while with his Pokémon's teamwork and strategy, including the use of the "Fusion of {{t|Fire}} and {{t|Water}}", an advanced combination which involved trapping the opponents in a water and fire whirlwind. Throughout the battle, {{an|May}} was very impressed by Tucker's showmanship skills and noted that his battle with Ash had some similarities to a [[Contest Battle]]. She later adapted his combination technique into her own battling style during the [[Kanto Grand Festival]].

He reappeared in flashbacks in ''[[AG182|Channeling the Battle Zone!]]'' and ''[[DP128|A Pyramiding Rage!]]''.

===Character===
Being an actor, Tucker likes to make his {{pkmn|battle}}s entertaining for spectators. He often brandishes his Pokémon and their attacks with descriptive phrases like "Burn with your fiery might, {{p|Arcanine}} use {{m|Flamethrower}}". Tucker's strategy is based on drawing out his opponent's best strategies in order to take them down, and he uses the [[Double Battle]] format to create spectacular and damaging [[move]] combinations. He also prefers to attack in quick succession, and is able to have his Pokémon turn one move into another, as seen when he turned Arcanine's Flamethrower into a {{m|Fire Blast}}.

He is undoubtedly the most famous [[Kanto]] [[Frontier Brain]], and his battles are known to attract the attention of the media. A press conference is held whenever he has a new challenger.

===Pokémon===
This listing is of Tucker's known {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} in the {{pkmn|anime}}:
{{MissingInfo|1|enva}}
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Tucker
|pkmn=Swampert
|type1=Water
|type2=Ground
|img=Tucker Swampert.png
|epnum=AG153
|epname=Tactics Theatrics!!
|vajp=Kōichi Sakaguchi
|vaen=
|desc={{p|Swampert}} was one of the two Pokémon that battled [[Ash's Corphish]] and {{AP|Swellow}}. While Swampert was slow, its {{stat|defense}} worked in perfect combination with {{p|Arcanine}}'s {{stat|speed}}. In the [[Double Battle]], Swampert's main target was Corphish. However, after Tucker used the "Fusion of {{t|Fire}} and {{t|Water}}", Corphish and Swellow regained their fighting spirit and won the match for {{Ash}}. Swampert was defeated by a devastating {{m|Aerial Ace}} from Swellow.

It also appeared in flashbacks in ''[[AG182|Channeling the Battle Zone!]]'' and ''[[DP128|A Pyramiding Rage!]]''.

Swampert's known moves are {{m|Protect}}, {{m|Mud Shot}}, {{m|Dynamic Punch}}, {{m|Water Gun}}, and {{m|Water Pulse}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Tucker
|pkmn=Arcanine
|type1=Fire
|img=Tucker Arcanine.png
|epnum=AG153
|epname=Tactics Theatrics!!
|vajp=Chie Satō
|vaen=Chie Satō
|desc=The other Pokémon Tucker used was {{p|Arcanine}}. {{p|Swampert}} and Arcanine were a perfect combination, taking advantage of Arcanine's {{stat|speed}} and Swampert's {{stat|defense}}. Arcanine's incredible agility and speed gave the impression that it could fly, making it an even match against aerial opponents like {{AP|Swellow}}. Despite nearly being overwhelmed by Tucker's "Fusion of {{t|Fire}} and {{t|Water}}", [[Ash's Corphish]] and Swellow regained their fighting spirit. Corphish used {{m|Bubble Beam}} on Arcanine's Flamethrower to enshroud the whole stadium in a dense fog. As a result, Swellow and Corphish were able to deal the final blows to Tucker's Pokémon, with Arcanine defeated by a devastating {{m|Crabhammer}} from Corphish.

It also appeared in flashbacks in ''[[AG182|Channeling the Battle Zone!]]'' and ''[[DP128|A Pyramiding Rage!]]''.

Arcanine's known moves are {{m|Extreme Speed}}, {{m|Flamethrower}}, {{m|Fire Blast}}, and {{m|Aerial Ace}}.}}

===Voice actors===
{{vatable|color={{frontier color}}|bordercolor={{frontier color light}}
|ja=三宅健太 ''[[Kenta Miyake]]''
|en=[[Bill Rogers]]
|fi=Aku Laitinen
|it=Claudio Moneta
|pt_br=Sérgio Corcetti
|es_la=Irwin Daayán
|es_eu=Juan Antonio García Sainz de la Maza}}

==In the manga==
===Pokémon Adventures===
[[File:Tucker Adventures.png|thumb|250px|Tucker in Pokémon Adventures]]
====History====
====={{chap|Emerald}}=====
Tucker is one of the seven {{pkmn|Trainer}}s hired by Scott to be a Frontier Brain at the Battle Frontier. Tucker is first seen running late to the Battle Frontier's opening ceremony. He is interrupted by {{adv|Emerald}}, who asks to direct him where the Battle Frontier's owner is. The incident leads into a fight, which ends with Emerald tying Tucker up and leaving backstage while he goes to interrupt the ceremony, where he announces to everyone that he wishes to conquer the Battle Frontier. The press mistakenly report the incident as allowing an ordinary Trainer to take part in the Battle Frontier before it officially opens a week later. The Frontier Brains decide to use this assumption as free publicity and allow Emerald to challenge the Battle Frontier under the condition that he completes it before it officially opens.

Later, while Emerald is challenging the Battle Pyramid, Noland is attacked by an unknown assailant and several rental Pokémon are stolen. After Noland is taken to a hospital, the other Frontier Brains begin to suspect Emerald as the culprit. They head to the Battle Pyramid to confront Emerald and find him after having defeated Brandon. When they ask him about what happened, Emerald reveals that he did not attack Noland and is actually after the Mythical Pokémon {{adv|Jirachi}}. The Frontier Brains find Emerald's explanation suspicious, but decide to follow him into [[Artisan Cave]], where Jirachi is currently located at. Upon arriving, everyone is attacked by a horde of wild {{p|Smeargle}} while Emerald continues inside to find Jirachi. After the Frontier Brains get past the Smeargle, they meet up with Emerald, who has managed to find Jirachi. Emerald attempts to capture Jirachi, but is attacked by [[Guile Hideout]], the actual culprit who attacked Noland. When Jirachi runs off, Emerald attempts to pursue it, only to be attacked by the rental Pokémon Guile had stolen. Tucker, Brandon, Lucy, and Spenser all try to attack Guile to avenge Noland, but are easily defeated. Eventually, Jirachi escapes, forcing Guile to leave to continue his pursuit of it. Injured from the battle, everyone decides to return to the Battle Frontier. When they meet up with Scott again, he reveals that he was aware of Guile and Emerald's true mission the entire time. Scott states that he withheld the information from the Frontier Brains to help them get stronger as they still would have lost even if they had known of Guile beforehand.

The next day, visitors from around Hoenn arrive to watch and participate in the Battle Dome, which Emerald challenges to win his fifth Symbol. During the tournament, Tucker battles {{adv|Sapphire}} in the semi-finals while Emerald battles {{adv|Ruby}}. Eventually, both Tucker and Emerald defeats their opponents and face each other in the finals, which ends in Tucker's victory. Dejected, Emerald leaves to go challenge the Battle Palace while Tucker gloats over his victory. Just as he leaves to meet with the others, Tucker notices Guile running past the Battle Dome's window. He leaps to confront the villain, but arrives with the other Frontier Brain's just as Guile manages to successfully capture Jirachi.

Guile uses the rental Pokémon to the attack innocent bystanders and heads to the Battle Tower to make his wish. Once he arrives at the Battle Tower, Guile uses Jirachi to wish for a gigantic Kyogre made of seawater to flood the entire Battle Frontier. Tucker and the other Frontier Brains work together to get civilians to safety and fight off Guile's rental Pokémon while Emerald and the other Pokédex holders fight Guile. Eventually Emerald and the Pokédex holders manage to defeat Guile and destroy the gigantic Kyogre monster. The day after, an injured Tucker and the other Frontier Brains congratulate Emerald for the hard work he put into saving everyone.

====={{chap|Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire}}=====
Tucker and the other Hoenn Frontier Brains battle and defeat the Admins of Neo [[Team Magma]] and Neo [[Team Aqua]], who had interfered in the launch of a rocket that was made to stop the [[Grand Meteor Delta|meteoroid]] threatening to destroy the world. Later, Tucker and the other Hoenn Frontier Brains are called to [[Sootopolis City]] to assist in stopping the meteoroid.

====Pokémon====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Tucker
|gender=male
|pkmn=Salamence
|type1=Dragon
|type2=Flying
|img=Tucker Salamence Adventures.png
|epnum=PS304
|epname=Swanky Showdown with Swalot
|desc={{p|Salamence}} is Tucker's first known Pokémon. He was first seen with his Trainer flying to the Battle Frontier's opening ceremony before being attacked by Emerald. During the Battle Dome tournament, Salamence was used to battle Sapphire's {{p|Aggron}}, [[Rono]], in the semifinals. The battle was unseen, but Sapphire was eventually defeated, which she attributed to her fear of Salamence. In the {{chap|Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire}}, he was seen helping Tucker fight the Admins of Neo Team Magma and Neo Team Aqua. Outside of battle, Tucker uses him as a mode of flight transportation.

Salamence's only known move is {{m|Fire Blast}}, and his Ability is {{a|Intimidate}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Tucker
|pkmn=Charizard
|type1=Fire
|type2=Flying
|img=Tucker Charizard Adventures.png
|epnum=PS323
|epname=A Cheeky Charizard Change-Up I
|desc={{p|Charizard}} is Tucker's second known Pokémon. It was first used to battle Emerald in the Battle Dome's finals. It proved to be a tough opponent and single-handedly defeated Emerald's {{p|Alakazam}} and {{p|Metagross}} despite their super-effective moves.

Charizard's known moves are {{m|Earthquake}} and {{m|Overheat}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Tucker
|pkmn=Metagross
|type1=Steel
|type2=Psychic
|img=376Metagross.png
|epnum=PS323
|epname=A Cheeky Charizard Change-Up I
|desc={{p|Metagross}} is Tucker's third known Pokémon. When {{adv|Ruby}} was wondering the sequence of Tucker's Pokémon, Sapphire mentions that {{p|Metagross}} will go last. However, since Charizard defeated Emerald's Pokémon single-handedly, Metagross was not seen.

None of Metagross's moves are known.}}

===Pokémon Battle Frontier===
[[File:Tucker CBF.png|thumb|200px|Tucker in the Pokémon Battle Frontier manga]]
Tucker appeared in ''[[CBF4|Introducing the Frontier Brains!]]'', where he introduced himself and his two Pokémon (while admiring them) to {{OBP|Enta|CBF}}. He battled Enta in a Double Battle. He was able to defeat [[Enta's Vulpix]] but lost to his {{p|Feebas}} after it activated {{a|Swift Swim}} when Enta's Vulpix blew a hole in the roof with {{m|Flamethrower}} earlier. Tucker then informed Enta that his Feebas wouldn't have stood a chance against his Pokémon due to it being ugly. After the battle, Feebas evolved into {{p|Milotic}}, proving Tucker wrong.

====Pokémon====
{{TrainerPoké
|width=70
|trainer=Tucker
|pkmn=Swampert
|type1=Water
|type2=Ground
|img=Tucker Swampert CBF.png
|epnum=CBF4
|epname=Introducing the Frontier Brains!
|desc={{p|Swampert}} was sent out in a Double Battle alongside Salamence against Enta's {{p|Vulpix}} and {{p|Feebas}}. It was able to defeat Vulpix but lost to Feebas.

Swampert's only known move is {{m|Water Gun}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Tucker
|pkmn=Salamence
|type1=Dragon
|type2=Flying
|img=Tucker Salamence CBF.png
|epnum=CBF4
|epname=Introducing the Frontier Brains!
|desc={{p|Salamence}} was sent out in a double battle alongside Swampert against Enta's {{p|Vulpix}} and {{p|Feebas}}. It was able to defeat Vulpix but lost to Feebas.

Salamence's only known move is {{m|Rock Slide}}.}}

==Trivia==
* Tucker is the only Frontier Brain who Emerald didn't defeat to win a Symbol, aside from [[Anabel]], who simply awarded him her Ability Symbol for having battled with her fairly while she was under [[Guile Hideout|Guile]]'s control. In turn, Tucker is also the only Brain who never lost a fight with Emerald to yield him a Symbol, since the 10 [[Pokédex holder]]s had their own tournament instead.
* All of the Pokémon used by Tucker in the games received [[Mega Evolution]]s in [[Generation VI]].

==Names==
{| class="roundy" style="float:left; background: #{{frontier color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{frontier color}}"
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Japanese
| ヒース ''Heath''
| From ''{{wp|Ericaceae|heath}}''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| English
| Tucker
| From ''tactics''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| German
| Tasso
| From ''Taktik'' (tactics)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Spanish
| Tactio
| From ''tacticas'' (tactics)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| French
| Takim
| From ''tactique'' (tactics)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Italian
| Tolomeo
| From πτόλεμος ''ptólemos'' (Ancient Greek for war)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Korean
| 하인즈 ''Heinz''
| Similar to his Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and Mainland China}})
| 希爾斯 / 希尔斯 '' Xī'ěrsī''
|rowspan="2" | Transcription of his Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Cantonese|Hong Kong}})
| 希爾斯 '' Hēiyíhsī''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Vietnamese
| Heath
| Transcription of his Japanese name
|}
{{-}}
===Dome Ace===
{{langtable|color={{frontier color light}}|bordercolor={{frontier color}}
|ja=ドームスーパースター ''Dome Superstar''
|zh_yue=巨蛋超級巨星 ''{{tt|Geuihdáan Chīukāp-Geuihsīng|Dome Superstar}}''
|zh_cmn=巨蛋超級巨星 / 巨蛋超级巨星 ''{{tt|Jùdàn Chāojí-Jùxīng|Dome Superstar}}'' {{tt|*|Anime, Adventures (Jilin Publishing)}} 巨蛋超級明星 ''{{tt|Jùdàn Chāojí-Míngxīng|Dome Superstar}}'' {{tt|*|Adventures (Ching Win)}}
|fi=Kupuässä
|fr_eu=Star du Dôme
|de=Stadionstar
|it=Astro Cupola
|ko=돔슈퍼스타 ''Dome Superstar''
|pt_br=Estrela da Cúpula
|es_eu=Astro Cúpula
|es_la=As del Domo
|vi=Siêu sao của Nhà vòm
}}

==Related articles==
* [[a:Category:Tucker|Images on the Bulbagarden Archives]]
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Brandon

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{{samename|[[Club Member]] of the [[Lightning Club]] in the {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}|Brandon (TCG GB)}}
{{samename|male [[player character]] of the [[Hoenn]] games|Brendan (game)}}
{{CharInfobox|
color={{frontier color}} |
corecolor={{frontier color light}} |
bordercolor={{frontier color dark}} |
name=Brandon |
jname=ジンダイ |
tmname=Jindai |
image=Emerald Pyramid King Brandon.png |
size=200px |
caption=Art from {{v2|Emerald}} |
gender=Male |
colors=yes |
eyes=Black|
hair=Brown |
hometown=Unknown |
region=[[Hoenn]][[Pokémon Emerald Version|*]]/[[Kanto]][[Pokémon anime|*]] |
relatives=Unknown |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Frontier Brain|Pyramid King (Frontier Brain)]] |
game=yes |
generation={{Gen|III}} |
games={{game|Emerald}} |
leader=no |
brain=yes |
facility=[[Battle Pyramid]] |
symbol=Brave Symbol |
anime=yes |
epnum=AG178 |
epname=Battling the Enemy Within |
java=[[Masayuki Omoro]]|
enva=[[Craig Blair]]|
}}
'''Brandon''' (Japanese: '''ジンダイ''' ''Jindai'') is the [[Frontier Brain]] and chief of the {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}'s [[Battle Pyramid]]. He is the only character in the games to have the {{DL|Pokémon Trainer|Trainer class}} '''Pyramid King''' (Japanese: '''ピラミッドキング''' ''Pyramid King'').

==In the games==
Any Trainer arriving at the top of the [[Battle Pyramid]] just after Brandon must battle against him for the status of the Pyramid's conqueror.

Brandon appreciates the grand life of the explorer. He recalls the passion, danger, and desperation of his death-defying and life-affirming adventures. When defeated in battle, he'll praise the grandeur of the match and hand over the Brave Symbol.

In [[Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire]], Brandon is revealed to have worked with [[TV Mauville]] to produce various television programs detailing the search for the [[Mythical Pokémon]] {{p|Volcanion}} in the [[Kalos]], [[Sinnoh]], and [[Johto]] regions.

===Pokémon===
====Silver Symbol challenge====
{{Party/Single
|color={{frontier color}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|headcolor={{frontier color light}}
|sprite=Spr E Brandon.png
|prize=16{{color2|000|Battle Point|BP}}
|class=Pyramid King
|classlink=Brandon
|name=Brandon
|game=E
|location=Battle Pyramid
|pokemon=3}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=377
|pokemon=Regirock
|ability=Clear Body
|held=Quick Claw
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|type1=Rock
|move1=AncientPower|move1type=Rock
|move2=Superpower|move2type=Fighting
|move3=Earthquake|move3type=Ground
|move4=Explosion|move4type=Normal}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=379
|pokemon=Registeel
|ability=Clear Body
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|type1=Steel
|held=Leftovers
|move1=Metal Claw|move1type=Steel
|move2=Iron Defense|move2type=Steel
|move3=Earthquake|move3type=Ground
|move4=Toxic|move4type=Poison}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=378
|pokemon=Regice
|ability=Clear Body
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|type1=Ice
|held=Chesto Berry
|move1=Ice Beam|move1type=Ice
|move2=Amnesia|move2type=Psychic
|move3=Thunder|move3type=Electric
|move4=Rest|move4type=Psychic}}
{{Party/Footer}}

====Gold Symbol challenge====
{{Party/Single
|color={{frontier color}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|headcolor={{frontier color light}}
|sprite=Spr E Brandon.png
|prize=19{{color2|000|Battle Point|BP}}
|class=Pyramid King
|classlink=Brandon
|name=Brandon
|game=E
|location=Battle Pyramid
|pokemon=3}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=144
|pokemon=Articuno
|ability=Pressure
|held=Scope Lens
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|type1=Ice|type2=Flying
|move1=Blizzard|move1type=Ice
|move2=Aerial Ace|move2type=Flying
|move3=Water Pulse|move3type=Water
|move4=Reflect|move4type=Psychic}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=145
|pokemon=Zapdos
|ability=Pressure
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|type1=Electric|type2=Flying
|held=Lum Berry
|move1=Thunder|move1type=Electric
|move2=Detect|move2type=Fighting
|move3=Drill Peck|move3type=Flying
|move4=Light Screen|move4type=Psychic}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=146
|pokemon=Moltres
|ability=Pressure
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|type1=Fire|type2=Flying
|held=BrightPowder
|move1=Fire Blast|move1type=Fire
|move2=Aerial Ace|move2type=Flying
|move3=Hyper Beam|move3type=Normal
|move4=Safeguard|move4type=Normal}}
{{Party/Footer}}

===Quotes===
===={{game|Emerald}}====
;Initial battle
*Before battle
:''"Young adventurer... Wouldn't you agree that explorations are the grandest of adventures? Your own wits! Your own strength! Your own <sc>Pokémon</sc>! And, above all, only your courage to lead you through unknown worlds..."''
:''"Aah, yes, indeed this life is grand! Grand, it is! Eh? I'm <sc>Brandon</sc>. I'm the <sc>Pyramid King</sc>, which means I'm in charge here. Most people call me the chief! You coming here means you have that much confidence in yourself, am I right? Hahahah! This should be exciting! Now, then! Bring your courage to our battle!"''

*Being defeated
:''"That's it! You’ve done great! You've worked hard for this!"''

*If the player is defeated
:''"Hey! What's wrong with you! Let's see some effort! Get up!"''

*After being defeated
:''"Hahahah! Grand it was! Grand, yes, indeed! Well done! You've earned recognition! Your <sc>Frontier Pass</sc>, please!"''
:''"Young explorer! I look forward to our next meeting! "''

;Rematch
*Before battle
:''"...You've finally returned, young explorer... Your love for adventure seems to come deep from within your heart... Yes... You are exactly as I was in my own youth... ... ... ...Ah... The passionate! The dangerous! The desperate! Those days of death-defying, life-affirming adventures are back..."''
:''"Now, then! I sense my courage is off the meter! Everything you have! I'm braced for it all!"''

*Being defeated
:''"That's it! You've done it! You kept working for this!"''

*If the player is defeated
:''"Hey! Don't give up now! Get up! Don't lose faith in yourself!"''

*After being defeated
:''"Hahahah! Remarkable! Yes, it's grand, indeed! Young explorer! You've bested me through and through! Here! I want you to have this!"''
:''"Ah, yes! It just goes to show that I have much to learn still! May our paths cross again! Farewell for now, young explorer!"''

====[[Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire]]====
;[[TV Mauville]]
* Volcanion special: Part One
:''"Oh! Get back! If it blows, it could send even huge mountains flying! It can change moisture into super-heated steam in an instant with its internal organs causing {{m|Steam Eruption|a massive explosion}}!"''
:''"Stay alert at all times! Don't forget your courage sensor!"''

* Volcanion special: Part Two
:''"Get back! Look at those arm-like things growing out of its back! It uses those to suck in moisture and turn it into a thick fog! If we stay here, we'll be trapped in the fog!"''
:''"Stay alert at all times! Don't forget your courage sensor!"''

* Volcanion special: Part Three
:''"Oh! Get back! An explosion from Volcanion can even change mountain ranges into plains! It's thought that ancient land masses were formed in that way."''
:''"Stay alert at all times! Don't forget your courage sensor!"''

===Sprites===
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|-
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|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background: #{{frontier color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Brandon OD.png]]
|-
| Sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
| Overworld sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
|}

==In the anime==
[[File:Brandon anime AG.png|250px|thumb|Brandon in ''[[Pokémon the Series: Ruby and Sapphire]]'']]
{{main|Brandon (anime)}}
Brandon is the strongest of all the [[Frontier Brain]]s, and a major recurring character during the final phase of ''[[Pokémon the Series: Ruby and Sapphire]]''. In ''[[Pokémon the Series: Diamond and Pearl]]'', he returned to thwart [[J]]'s plan to capture a {{p|Regigigas}}.
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==In the manga==
===Pokémon Adventures===
[[File:Brandon Adventures.png|thumb|right|225px|Brandon in Pokémon Adventures]]
====History====
====={{chap|Emerald}}=====
Brandon is one of the seven {{pkmn|Trainer}}s hired by Scott to be a Frontier Brain at the {{gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}. Brandon is first seen capturing the Legendary Pokémon {{p|Regirock}}, {{p|Registeel}}, and {{p|Regice}} to be used at the [[Battle Pyramid]]. Later, he is seen watching the Battle Frontier's opening ceremony. The ceremony is interrupted by {{adv|Emerald}}, who announces that he wishes to conquer the Battle Frontier. The press mistakenly report the incident as allowing an ordinary Trainer to take part in the Battle Frontier before it officially opens a week later. The Frontier Brains decide to use this assumption as free publicity and allow Emerald to challenge the Battle Frontier under the condition that he completes it before it officially opens.

Brandon is the third Frontier Brain Emerald challenges in his quest. After traversing multiple sets of floors, Emerald eventually manages to reach Brandon. Despite having three Legendary Pokémon, Brandon is defeated by Emerald's {{TP|Emerald|Sceptile}}. Upon his defeat, Brandon awards Emerald the Brave Symbol. After Emerald thanks Brandon for the Symbol and heads down the stairs of the Battle Pyramid, he is interrupted by the other Frontier Brains. They reveal that someone attacked Noland earlier and stolen multiple rental Pokémon and they believe the culprit is Emerald.

Emerald reveals that he did not attack Noland and is actually after the Mythical Pokémon {{adv|Jirachi}}. The Frontier Brains find Emerald's explanation suspicious, but decide to follow him into [[Artisan Cave]], where Jirachi is currently located at. Upon arriving, everyone is attacked by a horde of wild {{p|Smeargle}} while Emerald continues inside to find Jirachi. After the Frontier Brains get past the Smeargle, they meet up with Emerald, who has managed to find Jirachi. Emerald attempts to capture Jirachi, but is attacked by [[Guile Hideout]], the actual culprit who attacked Noland. When Jirachi runs off, Emerald attempts to pursue it, only to be attacked by the rental Pokémon Guile had stolen. Brandon, Lucy, Spenser, and Tucker all try to attack Guile to avenge Noland, but are easily defeated. Eventually, Jirachi escapes, forcing Guile to leave to continue his pursuit of it. Injured from the battle, everyone decides to return to the Battle Frontier. When they meet up with Scott again, he reveals that he was aware of Guile and Emerald's true mission the entire time. Scott states that he withheld the information from the Frontier Brains to help them get stronger as they still would have lost even if they had known of Guile beforehand.

After Emerald defeats Greta, Noland appears to everyone, revealing that he snuck out of the hospital because he couldn't stand lying in bed doing nothing. He asks Scott for the Jirachi Report so that he could translate it to find out where Jirachi will appear next. That night, Brandon comes in to assist Noland in deciphering the rest of the Jirachi Report. Together, they realize that Jirachi has a third eye, which must be looked at in order for Jirachi to grant someone's wish.

The next day, Brandon assists the other Frontier Brains in ushering people to the [[Battle Dome]]. During the tournament, Guile appears and manages to capture Jirachi. Guile uses the rental Pokémon to the attack innocent bystanders and heads to the {{gdis|Battle Tower|III}} to make his wish. Once he arrives at the Battle Tower, Guile uses Jirachi to wish for a gigantic {{p|Kyogre}} made of seawater to flood the entire Battle Frontier. Brandon and the other Frontier Brains work together to get civilians to safety and fight off Guile's rental Pokémon while Emerald and the other Pokédex holders fight Guile. Eventually Emerald and the Pokédex holders manage to defeat Guile and destroy the gigantic Kyogre monster. The day after, an injured Brandon and the other Frontier Brains congratulate Emerald for the hard work he put into saving everyone.

====={{chap|HeartGold & SoulSilver}}=====
It is revealed that Brandon lent his Pokémon to [[Palmer]], allowing the latter to awaken {{p|Regigigas}} in hopes to use it to protect Sinnoh in times of a crisis. Palmer later released Regigigas back into the wild due to it being hard to control and its power not being needed yet.

====={{chap|Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire}}=====
Brandon and the other Hoenn Frontier Brains battle and defeat the Admins of Neo [[Team Magma]] and Neo [[Team Aqua]], who had interfered in the launch of a rocket that was made to stop the [[Grand Meteor Delta|meteoroid]] threatening to destroy the world. Later, Brandon and the other Hoenn Frontier Brains are called to [[Sootopolis City]] to assist in stopping the meteoroid.

====Pokémon====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Brandon
|pkmn=Regirock
|type1=Rock
|img=Brandon Regirock Adventures.png
|epnum=PS254
|epname=A Royal Rumble with Regirock, Regice and Registeel II
|desc={{main|Brandon's Legendary titans#In the Pokémon Adventures manga|Brandon's Regirock}}
{{p|Regirock}} was originally sealed inside the [[Desert Ruins]] before being awakened by [[Steven Stone]] and the Hoenn Elite Four to be used to help stop the battle between {{p|Groudon}} and {{p|Kyogre}}. The three Pokémon eventually lashed out at their controllers and fled to another location where they were found by Brandon and caught for use in the [[Battle Pyramid]]. During Emerald's run of the Battle Pyramid, Regirock was sent out to battle the boy first. Regirock fought Emerald's Sceptile and heavily damaged it with {{m|Explosion}}, causing itself to faint in the process. In the Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire chapter, it was seen helping Brandon fight the Admins of Neo Team Magma and Neo Team Aqua.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Brandon
|pkmn=Registeel
|type1=Steel
|img=Brandon Registeel Adventures.png
|epnum=PS254
|epname=A Royal Rumble with Regirock, Regice and Registeel II
|desc={{main|Brandon's Legendary titans#In the Pokémon Adventures manga|Brandon's Registeel}}

{{p|Registeel}} was originally sealed inside the [[Ancient Tomb]] before being awakened by Steven and the Hoenn Elite Four to be used to help stop the battle between Groudon and Kyogre. The three Pokémon eventually lashed out at their controllers and fled to another location where they were found by Brandon and caught for use in the [[Battle Pyramid]]. During Emerald's run of the Battle Pyramid, Registeel was sent out to battle the boy second. Registeel battled against Emerald's {{p|Hitmonchan}}, but was quickly defeated by a series of high-speed punches. Hitmonchan fainted soon after due to Registeel secretly poisoning it with {{m|Toxic}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Brandon
|pkmn=Regice
|type1=Ice
|img=Brandon Regice Adventures.png
|epnum=PS254
|epname=A Royal Rumble with Regirock, Regice and Registeel II
|desc={{main|Brandon's Legendary titans#In the Pokémon Adventures manga|Brandon's Regice}}

{{p|Regice}} was originally sealed inside the [[Island Cave]] before being awakened by Steven Stone and the Hoenn Elite Four to be used to help stop the battle between Groudon and Kyogre. The three Pokémon eventually lashed out at their controllers and fled to another location where they were found by Brandon and caught for use in the [[Battle Pyramid]]. During Emerald's run of the Battle Pyramid, Regice was sent out to battle the boy last. Regice fought Emerald's {{p|Cubone}} and easily managed to win, but was defeated by an {{m|Iron Tail}} from Sceptile, which Emerald had used a Revive on during the battle. Later, it was used to battle Guile Hideout at the Artisan Cave, but was easily defeated. In the Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire chapter, it was seen helping Brandon fight the Admins of Neo Team Magma and Neo Team Aqua.}}

==Trivia==
* Both of the teams that he uses in {{game|Emerald}} are made up of the members of a [[Legendary trio]] found in the [[Generation III]] [[core series|paired versions]]. Coincidentally, both trios can also be found in {{v2|Platinum}}, but not in {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}.
* All the Pokémon Brandon uses in Emerald are used by [[Dana]] during the Super [[Triple Battle]] in {{pkmn|X and Y|Pokémon X, Y}}, {{pkmn|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire|Omega Ruby, and Alpha Sapphire}}.
* Brandon is the only in-game character whose all known [[party|teams]] consist entirely of Legendary Pokémon.

==Names==
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{frontier color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{frontier color}}"
|- style="text-align:center"
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Japanese
| ジンダイ ''Jindai''
| From 神代 ''jindai'' (''{{wp|Cereus (plant)|Cereus}} fernambucensis'') and 神代 ''jindai'' ({{wp|Age of the Gods|age of the gods}}; ancient time)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| English
| Brandon
| From ''brave''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| German
| Brian
| From ''Bravour'' (bravery)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Spanish
| Valente
| From ''valentía'' (courage)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| French
| Bayar
| From ''bravoure'' (bravery)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| rowspan="2" | Italian
| Baldo
| From ''baldo'' (bold)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Mariano{{tt|*|Anime (Diamond and Pearl)}}
|
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Korean
| 기선 ''Giseon''
| From 기둥선인장 ''gidong-seon-injang'' (cereus; {{wp|ceroid cactus|columnar cactus}})
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and Mainland China}})
| 神代 ''Shéndài''
| rowspan="2" | From 神代 ''shéndài / sàhndoih'' (''Cereus fernambucensis'')
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Cantonese|Hong Kong}})
| 神代 ''Sàhndoih''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Vietnamese
| Jindai
| Transcription of his Japanese name
|}

===Pyramid King===
{{langtable|color={{frontier color light}}|bordercolor={{frontier color}}
|ja=ピラミッドキング ''Pyramid King''
|zh_yue=金字塔法老 ''{{tt|Gāmjihtaap Faatlóuh|Pyramid Pharaoh}}''
|zh_cmn=金字塔法老 ''{{tt|Jīnzìtǎ Fǎlǎo|Pyramid Pharaoh}}''
|fi=Pyramidikuningas
|fr_eu=Roi Pyramide
|de=Pyrakönig
|it=Re Piramide
|ko=피라미드킹 ''Pyramid King''
|pl=Król Piramidy
|es_eu=Rey Pirámide
|es_la=Rey de la Pirámide
|vi=Nhà vua của Kim tự tháp
}}

==Related articles==
* [[a:Category:Brandon|Images on the Bulbagarden Archives]]
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Spenser

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{{samename|other uses|Spenser (disambiguation)}}
{{CharInfobox|
color={{frontier color}} |
corecolor={{frontier color light}} |
bordercolor={{frontier color dark}} |
name=Spenser |
jname=ウコン |
tmname=Ukon |
image=Emerald Palace Maven Spenser.png |
size=185px |
caption=Art from Emerald |
gender=Male |
colors=yes |
eyes=Unknown |
hair=White |
hometown=Unknown |
region=[[Hoenn]][[Pokémon Emerald Version|*]]/[[Kanto]][[Pokémon anime|*]] |
relatives=Unknown |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Frontier Brain|Palace Maven (Frontier Brain)]] |
game=yes |
generation={{Gen|III}} |
games={{game|Emerald}} |
leader=no |
brain=yes |
facility=[[Battle Palace]] |
symbol=Spirits Symbol |
anime=yes |
epnum=AG163 |
epname=Cutting the Ties that Bind |
java=Nachi Nozawa|
enva=[[Eric Schussler]]
}}

'''Spenser''' (Japanese: '''ウコン''' ''Ukon'') is the [[Frontier Brain]] and master of the {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}'s [[Battle Palace]]. He is the only character in the games to have the {{DL|Pokémon Trainer|Trainer class}} '''Palace Maven''' (Japanese: '''パレスガーディアン''' ''Palace Guardian'').

==In the games==
Spenser's physical being and heartbeat are as one with his Pokémon, his brethren. He has full trust in his Pokémon. He makes loud threats to set his opponent off guard. When defeated, he awards the Spirits Symbol.

===Pokémon===
====Silver Symbol challenge====
{{Party/Single
|color={{frontier color}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|headcolor={{frontier color light}}
|sprite=Spr E Spenser.png
|prize=15{{color2|000|Battle Point|BP}}
|class=Palace Maven
|classlink=Spenser
|name=Spenser
|game=E
|location=Battle Palace
|pokemon=3}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=169
|pokemon=Crobat
|ability=Inner Focus
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|gender=both
|type1=Poison|type2=Flying
|held=BrightPowder
|move1=Fly|move1type=Flying
|move2=Confuse Ray|move2type=Ghost
|move3=Toxic|move3type=Poison
|move4=Double Team|move4type=Normal}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=289
|pokemon=Slaking
|ability=Truant
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|gender=both
|type1=Normal
|held=Scope Lens
|move1=Brick Break|move1type=Fighting
|move2=Shadow Ball|move2type=Ghost
|move3=Earthquake|move3type=Ground
|move4=Swagger|move4type=Normal}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=131
|pokemon=Lapras
|ability=Water Absorb|ability2=Shell Armor
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|gender=both
|type1=Water|type2=Ice
|held=Quick Claw
|move1=Horn Drill|move1type=Normal
|move2=Ice Beam|move2type=Ice
|move3=Confuse Ray|move3type=Ghost
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}
{{Party/Footer}}

====Gold Symbol challenge====
{{Party/Single
|color={{frontier color}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|headcolor={{frontier color light}}
|sprite=Spr E Spenser.png
|prize=16{{color2|000|Battle Point|BP}}
|class=Palace Maven
|classlink=Spenser
|name=Spenser
|game=E
|location=Battle Palace
|pokemon=3}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=059
|pokemon=Arcanine
|ability=Intimidate|ability2=Flash Fire
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|gender=both
|type1=Fire
|held=White Herb
|move1=Overheat|move1type=Fire
|move2=ExtremeSpeed|move2type=Normal
|move3=Roar|move3type=Normal
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=289
|pokemon=Slaking
|ability=Truant
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|gender=both
|type1=Normal
|held=Scope Lens
|move1=Hyper Beam|move1type=Normal
|move2=Shadow Ball|move2type=Ghost
|move3=Earthquake|move3type=Ground
|move4=Yawn|move4type=Normal}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=245
|pokemon=Suicune
|ability=Pressure
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|type1=Water
|held=King's Rock
|move1=Surf|move1type=Water
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark
|move3=Blizzard|move3type=Ice
|move4=Calm Mind|move4type=Psychic}}
{{Party/Footer}}

====Other====
Spenser also has these Pokémon, but they don't participate in battle. They can be seen entering the battlefield along with Spenser as he gets ready for his battle with the {{player}}.

{| style="width: 96px"
|-
| {{InactivePoké|Spenser|Dusclops|Spr 3e 356.png|Ghost|link=no|size=64px}}
| {{InactivePoké|Spenser|Azurill|Spr 3e 298.png|Normal|link=no|size=64px}}
|}

===Quotes===
;Initial battle
*Before battle
:''"My physical being is with <sc>Pokémon</sc> always! My heart beats as one with <sc>Pokémon</sc> always! Young one of a <sc>Trainer</sc>! Do you believe in your <sc>Pokémon</sc>? Can you believe them through and through? If your bonds of trust are frail, you will never beat my brethren! The bond you share with your <sc>Pokémon</sc>! Prove it to me here!"''

*Being defeated
:''"Ah... Now this is something else..."''

*If the player is defeated
:''"Your <sc>Pokémon</sc> are wimpy because you're wimpy as a <sc>Trainer</sc>!"''

*After being defeated
:''"Gwahahah! Hah, you never fell for my bluster! Sorry for trying that stunt! Here! Bring me the thing!"''
:'''His assistant''': ''"My, my, if only you could maintain that facade of distinguished authority... Here! Let's see your <sc>Frontier Pass</sc>!"''
:''"Your <sc>Pokémon</sc>'s eyes are truly clear and unclouded. I will eagerly await the next opportunity to see you."''

;Rematch
*Before battle
:''"Gwahahah! You've battled your way up again? You must have developed a truly formidable bond with your <sc>Pokémon</sc>. So be it! This time, I won't bluster or hold back. This time, there's no fooling around. Ready now? Prepare to lose! ... ... ...Kaaah!"''

*Being defeated
:''"Gwah! Hahahaha!"''

*If the player is defeated
:''"Gwahahaha! My brethren, we have nothing to fear!"''

*After being defeated
:''"Well, that was some display! Even fully unleashed, my brethren could not overpower you. You team spirit is truly admirable! Here! Bring me that thing, will you?"''
:'''His assistant''': ''"My, my, if only you could maintain a certain level of decorum... Gaaah, here! Hurry with that <sc>Frontier Pass</sc>, you!"''
:''"Gwahahah! Come see me time and again! My brethren and I will be waiting!"''

===Sprites===
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| Sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
| Overworld sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
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==In the anime==
[[File:Spenser anime.png|thumb|250px|Spenser in the {{pkmn|anime}}]]
Spenser debuted in ''[[AG163|Cutting the Ties that Bind]]''. He found [[Ash's Pikachu]] lying along the riverbank and healed it with a natural remedy. {{Ash}}, {{ashfr}}, and [[Scott]] later met up with Spenser, had a meal with him, and stayed overnight in the jungle while Ash continued to comfort {{AP|Sceptile}}, who had been left heartbroken by [[AG161|an earlier rejection]]. The next day, Spenser and the others caught up to Ash just as {{TRT}} arrived and stole both Pikachu and Sceptile. Ash managed to free his Pokémon, and after a {{m|Heal Bell}} from Spenser's {{p|Chansey}}, Sceptile sent the trio blasting off. Spenser and Ash then agreed rest up and battle the following day.

In ''[[AG164|Ka Boom with a View!]]'', Ash and Spenser's match took place on a battlefield that covered a large portion of [[Metallica Island]]'s jungle. After Sceptile defeated Spenser's {{p|Shiftry}}, {{p|Venusaur}} took several of {{AP|Heracross}}'s {{m|Megahorn}} attacks before knocking its opponent out with an overwhelming {{m|Solar Beam}}.

After a small snack break, the {{pkmn|battle}} resumed. Ash selected {{AP|Swellow}}, and despite having the aerial advantage, the {{type|Flying}} had to contend with Venusaur's {{m|Vine Whip}} and {{m|Razor Leaf}} attacks. Suddenly, the clouds moved and obscured the Sun, causing Venusaur's Solar Beam to take longer than expected. Swellow took advantage of the delay to knock Venusaur out. Spenser then sent out his {{p|Claydol}}, which quickly defeated Swellow. After another heated battle, Spenser and his Claydol eventually lost due to Sceptile learning and using {{m|Solar Beam}}.

Spenser reappeared in a flashback in ''[[DP128|A Pyramiding Rage]]'', along with the other [[Kanto]] [[Frontier Brain]]s.

===Character===
Spenser has a simple life on [[Metallica Island]], which allows him to appreciate its natural beauty. He believes in a natural order as well as the balance between humans and Pokémon. He has an extensive knowledge of herbal medicines and prefers to use local ingredients to create his meals.

In {{pkmn|battle}}, Spenser prefers to use special attacks to overwhelm his opponent. He also uses the open-air battlefield's various [[weather]] conditions and landscapes to his advantage, making battles with him difficult. For example, his {{p|Venusaur}}'s {{m|Solar Beam}} charges quicker when it is sunny, or his {{p|Claydol}}'s {{m|Rapid Spin}} can trigger a devastating sandstorm.

===Pokémon===
This listing is of Spenser's known Pokémon in the anime:
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Spenser
|pkmn=Venusaur
|type1=Grass
|type2=Poison
|img=Spenser Venusaur.png
|epnum=AG163
|epname=Cutting the Ties that Bind
|vajp=Kenta Miyake
|vaen=Craig Blair
|desc={{p|Venusaur}} debuted in ''[[AG163|Cutting the Ties that Bind]]'', where it was first seen near a campfire next to Spenser, who was making medicine for {{AP|Pikachu}} who was lost at the time. The next day, Spenser and Venusaur accompany {{an|May}}, [[Max]], {{an|Brock}}, and [[Scott]] on their search for {{Ash}}. They find him and {{AP|Sceptile}} being attacked by many {{p|Beedrill}}, and Venusaur helped them by using {{m|Sweet Scent}} to calm them down.

In ''[[AG164|Ka Boom with a View!]]'', Venusaur was used as the second Pokémon in the battle at the [[Battle Palace]], after {{p|Shiftry}}. Ash used {{AP|Heracross}} for the {{pkmn|battle}}. It was able to put up a good fight, but was eventually defeated by Venusaur's powerful {{m|Solar Beam}}. Ash then sent out {{AP|Swellow}}, who utilized its speed and agility to its full advantage. It was able to defeat Venusaur after a hard fought battle.

Venusaur's known moves are {{m|Sweet Scent}}, {{m|Vine Whip}}, {{m|Razor Leaf}}, {{m|Tackle}}, and {{m|Solar Beam}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Spenser
|pkmn=Chansey
|gender=female
|type1=Normal
|img=Spenser Chansey.png
|epnum=AG163
|epname=Cutting the Ties that Bind
|desc=Spenser's {{p|Chansey}} was used to heal the wounds of [[Ash's Sceptile]].

Chansey's only known move is {{m|Heal Bell}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Spenser
|pkmn=Shiftry
|type1=Grass
|type2=Dark
|img=Spenser Shiftry.png
|epnum=AG164
|epname=Ka Boom with a View!
|desc={{p|Shiftry}} appeared in ''[[AG164|Ka Boom with a View!]]'', where it was the first Pokémon to be sent against {{Ash}}, while he chose {{AP|Sceptile}}. Before using any [[move]], Shiftry dodged the {{m|Bullet Seed}} from Sceptile and was told to move to the jungle. It had immense speed, but Sceptile was just as fast, as it followed close behind. After the two {{type|Grass}}s reached a small waterfall, both continued their duel. Shiftry managed to push Sceptile into the pool of water, then used Rock Smash to send rocks down into the pool. However, Sceptile escaped up through the waterfall and landed a hit on Shiftry, knocking it out, and winning Ash the first victory.

Shiftry's known moves are {{m|Shadow Ball}}, {{m|Quick Attack}}, {{m|Double Team}}, and {{m|Rock Smash}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Spenser
|pkmn=Claydol
|type1=Ground
|type2=Psychic
|img=Spenser Claydol.png
|epnum=AG164
|epname=Ka Boom with a View!
|vajp=Kōichi Sakaguchi
|vaen=Kōichi Sakaguchi
|desc={{p|Claydol}} appeared in ''[[AG164|Ka Boom with a View!]]'', where it was the third Pokémon to be sent out against {{Ash}}. Claydol had to face [[Ash's Swellow]] and {{AP|Sceptile}} before being defeated by Sceptile's newly learned {{m|SolarBeam}}. Claydol is the powerhouse of Spenser's team, being able to use Rapid Spin in combination with Psybeam.

Claydol reappeared in flashback in ''[[DP128|A Pyramiding Rage!]]''.

Claydol's known moves are {{m|Teleport}}, {{m|Rapid Spin}}, {{m|Sandstorm}}, {{m|Hyper Beam}}, and {{m|Psybeam}}.}}

===Voice actors===
{{vatable|color={{frontier color}}|bordercolor={{frontier color light}}
|ja=野沢那智 ''Nachi Nozawa''
|en=[[Eric Schussler]]
|fi=Pasi Ruohonen
|it=Mario Scarabelli
|pt_br=Renato Márcio
|es_la=Jorge Ornelas
|es_eu=Roberto Cuenca Martínez}}

==In the manga==
===Pokémon Adventures===
[[File:Spenser Adventures.png|thumb|200px|Spenser in the Pokémon Adventures manga]]
====History====
====={{chap|Emerald}}=====
Spenser is one of the seven {{pkmn|Trainer}}s hired by Scott to be a Frontier Brain at the {{gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}. Spenser is first seen at the Frontier's opening ceremony, where he participates in a demonstration {{pkmn|battle}} alongside Lucy. Though the battle ends in an easy victory, the ceremony is interrupted by {{adv|Emerald}}, who announces that he wishes to conquer the Battle Frontier. The press mistakenly report the incident as allowing an ordinary Trainer to take part in the Battle Frontier before it officially opens a week later. The Frontier Brains decide to use this assumption as free publicity and allow Emerald to challenge the Battle Frontier under the condition that he completes it before it officially opens.

Later, while Emerald is challenging the [[Battle Pyramid]], Noland is attacked by an unknown assailant and several rental Pokémon are stolen. After Noland is taken to a hospital, the other Frontier Brains begin to suspect Emerald as the culprit. They head to the Battle Pyramid to confront Emerald and find him after having defeated Brandon. When they ask him about what happened, Emerald reveals that he did not attack Noland and is actually after the Mythical Pokémon {{adv|Jirachi}}. The Frontier Brains find Emerald's explanation suspicious, but decide to follow him into [[Artisan Cave]], where Jirachi is currently located at. Upon arriving, everyone is attacked by a horde of wild {{p|Smeargle}} while Emerald continues inside to find Jirachi. After the Frontier Brains get past the Smeargle, they meet up with Emerald, who has managed to find Jirachi. Emerald attempts to capture Jirachi, but is attacked by [[Guile Hideout]], the actual culprit who attacked Noland. When Jirachi runs off, Emerald attempts to pursue it, only to be attacked by the rental Pokémon Guile had stolen. Spenser, Brandon, Lucy, and Tucker all try to attack Guile to avenge Noland, but are easily defeated. Eventually, Jirachi escapes, forcing Guile to leave to continue his pursuit of it. Injured from the battle, everyone decides to return to the Battle Frontier. When they meet up with Scott again, he reveals that he was aware of Guile and Emerald's true mission the entire time. Scott states that he withheld the information from the Frontier Brains to help them get stronger as they still would have lost even if they had known of Guile beforehand.

The next day, Spenser encounters {{adv|Ruby}} and {{adv|Sapphire}} near the [[Battle Palace]] while Emerald challenges the [[Battle Dome]]. Spenser confronts Sapphire and reveals that he is able to tell that she came in contact with the [[Blue Orb]] in the past. The two Pokédex holders find Spenser's actions strange and leave to try and investigate. Shortly afterward, Emerald arrives to challenge the Battle Palace after losing to Tucker. Spenser agrees and decides to battle Emerald immediately without going through the usual sets of virtual Trainers. They are interrupted by a phone call, which is the others informing Spenser that Guile managed to captured Jirachi and is heading to the {{gdis|Battle Tower|III}} to make his wish. Emerald decides to head off to the Battle Tower and leaves his Pokémon behind to win the Spirits Symbol for him.

At the Battle Tower, Emerald battles Guile, but his spare Pokémon are defeated. {{p|Latios}} arrives and presents Emerald with his team and the Spirits Symbol they managed to win. Using his ability to share his sight with {{p|Latias}}, Latios relays a message from Spenser, who is still at the Battle Palace. Spenser reveals that in the past, he visited his friends, the guardians of the [[Red Orb|Red]] and [[Blue Orb]]s on [[Mt. Pyre]]. When they were away, he briefly touched the Blue Orb, which filled his head with images of the Legendary Pokémon {{p|Kyogre}}. Due to this moment of weakness, Spenser decided to train his spirit to prevent another incident from happening again. In addition to the visions, he gained the ability to tell when other people have touched the Blue Orb, such as Sapphire. Due to this, Spenser managed to find out that Guile not only touched the Blue Orb, but was [[Archie|someone]] who let its power seep through his entire person.

Guile is impressed by Spenser's skills, but uses Jirachi to wish for a gigantic Kyogre made of seawater to flood the entire Battle Frontier. Spenser and the other Frontier Brains work together to get the press to safety and fight off Guile's rental Pokémon while Emerald and the other Pokédex holders fight Guile. Eventually Emerald and the Pokédex holders manage to defeat Guile and destroy the gigantic Kyogre monster. The day after, an injured Spenser and the other Frontier Brains congratulate Emerald for the hard work he put into saving everyone.

====={{chap|Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire}}=====
Spenser and the other Hoenn Frontier Brains battle and defeat the Admins of Neo [[Team Magma]] and Neo [[Team Aqua]], who had interfered in the launch of a rocket that was made to stop the [[Grand Meteor Delta|meteoroid]] threatening to destroy the world. Later, Spenser and the other Hoenn Frontier Brains are called to [[Sootopolis City]] to assist in stopping the meteoroid.

====Pokémon====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Spenser
|pkmn=Crobat
|type1=Poison
|type2=Flying
|img=Spenser Crobat Adventures.png
|epnum=PS304
|epname=Swanky Showdown with Swalot
|desc={{p|Crobat}} is Spenser's first known Pokémon. It was used to battle a {{p|Swalot}} and {{p|Electrode}} in the opening ceremony of the {{gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}. Despite the type-disadvantage, Crobat, with the assistance of [[Lucy's Seviper]], was able to defeat them. At the Artisan Cave, it was used to battle Guile, only for its attacks to be easily countered. Crobat was used to battle Emerald's team at the [[Battle Palace]], but was eventually defeated. In the Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire chapter, it was seen helping Spenser fight the Admins of Neo Team Magma and Neo Team Aqua.

Crobat's known moves are {{m|Poison Fang}} and {{m|Air Cutter}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Spenser
|pkmn=Lapras
|type1=Water
|type2=Ice
|img=Spenser Lapras Adventures.png
|epnum=PS314
|epname=A Sketchy Smattering of Smeargle
|desc={{p|Lapras}} is Spenser's second known Pokémon. It was first seen taking Spenser and some other Frontier Brains to the Artisan Cave. It was later chosen to be one of the three Pokémon Spenser would use to battle Emerald at the [[Battle Palace]], but it was eventually defeated. When Guile attacked the Frontier with his sea monster Kyogre, Lapras was used to move on the water and helped battle the rental Pokémon.

None of Lapras's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Spenser
|pkmn=Slaking
|type1=Normal
|img=Spenser Slaking Adventures.png
|epnum=PS325
|epname=Standing in the Way with Starmie
|desc={{p|Slaking}} is Spenser's third known Pokémon. It was first seen being chosen to be one of the three Pokémon Spenser would use to battle Emerald at the [[Battle Palace]], but it was eventually defeated.

None of Slaking's moves are known.}}

===Pokémon Battle Frontier===
[[File:Spenser CBF.png|thumb|200px|Spenser in the Battle Frontier manga]]
Spenser appeared in ''[[CBF5|The Predestined Battle!]]'', where he was defeated by {{OBP|Enta|CBF}}. Spenser then got his picture taken with Enta afterwards.

====Pokémon====
{{TrainerPoké
|width=70
|trainer=Spenser
|pkmn=Lapras
|type1=Water
|type2=Ice
|img=Spenser Lapras CBF.png
|epnum=CBF5
|epname=The Predestined Battle!
|desc={{p|Lapras}} is Spenser's only known Pokémon. It went up against [[Enta's Vulpix]] and lost despite the type advantage.

None of Lapras's moves are known.}}

==Trivia==
* Spenser is the only [[Generation III]] Frontier Brain who never uses the {{m|Rest}}–[[Chesto Berry]] healing combo on any of his Pokémon.
* Spenser's staff appears to be designed after {{p|Kyogre}}. His relation with this Pokémon was adressed only in the [[Pokémon Adventures]] where he touched [[Blue Orb]] in the past giving him visions of Kyogre.

==Names==
{| class="roundy" style="float:left; background: #{{frontier color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{frontier color}}"
|-
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Japanese
| ウコン ''Ukon''
| From 鬱金 ''ukon'' ({{wp|turmeric}})
|- style="background:#FFF"
| English
| Spenser
| From ''spirit''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| German
| Serenus
| From ''Seele'' (soul) and ''serenus'' (Latin for serene)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Spanish
| Aniceto
| From ''ánimo'' (spirit)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| French
| Esteban
| From ''esprit'' (spirit)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Italian
| Spartaco
| From ''spirito'' (spirit)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Korean
| 우근 ''Ugeun''
| From a corruption of 울금 (鬱金) ''ulgeum'' (turmeric) or 우근 ''Ugeun'' (hanja reading of the Japanese name 右近 ''Ukon'')
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and Mainland China}})
| 宇康 ''Yǔkāng''
| Transcription of his Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Cantonese|Hong Kong}})
| 宇康 ''Yúhhōng''
| Mandarin-based transcription of his Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Vietnamese
| Ukon
| Transcription of his Japanese name
|}
{{-}}
===Palace Maven===
{{langtable|color={{frontier color light}}|bordercolor={{frontier color}}
|ja=パレスガーディアン ''Palace Guardian''
|zh_yue=宮殿守護者 ''{{tt|Gūngdihn Sáuwuhjé|Palace Guardian}}''
|zh_cmn=宮殿守護者 / 宫殿守护者 ''{{tt|Gōngdiàn Shǒuhùzhě|Palace Guardian}}''
|fi=Palatsintietäjä
|fr_eu=Capt. Palace
|de=Palastregent
|it=Sire Palazzo
|ko=팰리스가디언 ''Palace Guardian''
|es_eu=Amo Palacio
|es_la=Guardian del Palacio
|vi=Quản gia Cung điện
}}

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* [[a:Category:Spenser|Images on the Bulbagarden Archives]]
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Anabel

2022-02-27T20:30:06Z

Strawhatroger: Undo revision 3456473 by Eridanus (talk)

{{CharInfobox
|color={{frontier color}}
|corecolor={{frontier color light}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|name=Anabel
|jname=リラ
|tmname=Lila
|image=Anabel SM concept art.png
|size=200px
|caption=Concept art from Generation VII
|gender=Female
|colors=yes
|eyes=Lilac
|hair=Lilac
|hometown=Unknown
|region=[[Hoenn]]{{pkmn|games|*}}/[[Kanto]][[Pokémon anime|*]]
|relatives=Unknown
|trainer=yes
|trainerclass={{tc|Tower Tycoon|Salon Maiden}}{{sup/3|E}} [[Frontier Brain|(Frontier Brain)]] [[Pokémon Trainer]]{{sup/7|SMUSUM}}
|game=yes
|generation={{gen|III}}, {{gen|VII}}
|games={{v2|Emerald}}, {{pkmn|Sun and Moon}}, {{pkmn|Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon}}
|leader=no
|brain=yes
|facility={{gdis|Battle Tower|III}}
|symbol=Ability Symbol
|specialist=yes
|type={{t|Psychic}} types{{tt|*|Anime only}}
|anime=yes
|epnum=AG169
|epname=Talking a Good Game
|enva=[[Hilary Thomas]]
|java=[[Akiko Kimura]]
}}

'''Anabel''' (Japanese: '''リラ''' ''Lila'') is an [[International Police]] officer and [[Pokémon Trainer]] who was introduced as a [[Frontier Brain]] in charge of running the {{gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}'s {{gdis|Battle Tower|III}} under the title of '''{{tc|Tower Tycoon|Salon Maiden}}''' (Japanese: '''タワータイクーン''' ''Tower Tycoon''). In [[Generation VII]], she works with [[Looker]].

==In the games==
===Generation III===
Anabel is described as a "mysterious [[Trainer]]" by a resident of the Battle Frontier. She first appears in the {{gdis|Battle Tower|III}} as the 35th opponent the {{player}} faces, unimpressed by the rumors she has heard about their accomplishments. She battles the player with a team meant to size them up, and awards the [[Symbol|Ability Symbol]] onto the {{DL|Trainer Card (game)|Frontier Pass}} upon defeat. Now understanding the player's ability, she urges them to continue their winning streak and reach her again.

Later, Anabel appears again at the 70th consecutive match. This time, she is happy that the player won consecutive matches to see her, and that she can battle flat-out without holding back at all. After being defeated, she thanks the player for giving her a battle more enjoyable than any she ever had before, and confers the Gold Symbol upon them.

She is one of the two known {{tc|Tower Tycoon}}s, the other one being [[Palmer]] of the Battle Tower in the [[Sinnoh]] region.

===Generation VII===
{{Spoilers}}
Ten years prior to the events of {{pkmn|Sun and Moon}}, Anabel was found unconscious on a [[Poni Island]] beach by [[Looker]] and [[Nanu]], who had just completed a mission for the [[International Police]]. She had lost most of her memories, only able to tell them her name, that she came from Hoenn, that she protected a tower there, and that she was a powerful Trainer. After being placed in the care of the International Police, they detected incredible amounts of [[Ultra Wormhole]] energy coming from her, implying that she was a Faller who was lost in a wormhole for a significant time. Anabel has never been informed of this, however.

Anabel eventually joined the International Police herself and quickly ascended the ranks, until she ended up as Looker's superior in the UB Task Force, a secret division of the International Police that deals with [[Ultra Beast]]s. After the player becomes {{pkmn|Champion}} in Pokémon Sun and Moon, they will meet Anabel and Looker when they visit the {{rt|8|Alola}} motel on [[Akala Island]].

When the player meets Anabel and Looker, the pair recruit the player to the UB Task Force. Although one of the task force's duties is to either safeguard or destroy the Ultra Beasts, neither Anabel nor Looker wishes to harm them, so they need the help of the new Champion of Alola. Anabel will also battle the player to ensure that they are up to the job.

The group proceeds to track down and catch Ultra Beasts across all four of Alola's islands. After the player catches the first, Nihilego, Anabel arranges for the player to keep the Ultra Beasts, rather than delivering them to the International Police where they would end up as research subjects. During each mission, Anabel's job is to protect nearby populated areas with the assistance of her Pokémon. As the missions continue, however, Anabel starts to show signs of fatigue. Apparently, the Ultra Beasts are being drawn to her strongly as a Faller and becoming extremely aggressive toward her, which is only exacerbated when there are multiple of them that can assail her simultaneously. In the last mission, Looker finally misdirects her away from the action so that she can recover her strength.

After all of the Ultra Beasts have been caught, the International Police HQ grants Anabel and Looker paid leave until they receive their next orders. Anabel plans to go meet with Nanu again and then spend her time sightseeing around Alola.

Anabel can later be encountered again as a Trainer in the [[Battle Tree]], primarily using Pokémon from her Emerald roster.

In {{pkmn|Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon}}, Anabel makes a cameo appearance with Looker in [[Poni Plains]]. The two block the way to [[Poni Coast]] until the UB incident at [[Poni Grove]] is resolved, at which point Anabel leaves to go to the Battle Tree for training. It is mentioned that in these games, Anabel and Looker are on vacation in Alola instead of being there for a mission.

===Pokémon===
===={{game|Emerald}}====
=====Silver Symbol challenge=====
{{Party/Single
|color={{frontier color}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|headcolor={{frontier color light}}
|sprite=Spr E Anabel.png
|prize=15{{color2|000|Battle Point|BP}}
|class=Salon Maiden
|classlink=Tower Tycoon (Trainer class)
|name=Anabel
|game=E
|location=Battle Tower (Generation III)
|locationname=Battle Tower
|pokemon=3}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=065
|pokemon=Alakazam
|ability=Synchronize|ability2=Inner Focus
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|gender=both
|type1=Psychic
|held=BrightPowder
|move1=Ice Punch|move1type=Ice
|move2=ThunderPunch|move2type=Electric
|move3=Fire Punch|move3type=Fire
|move4=Disable|move4type=Normal}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=244
|pokemon=Entei
|ability=Pressure
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|type1=Fire
|held=Lum Berry
|move1=Fire Blast|move1type=Fire
|move2=Calm Mind|move2type=Psychic
|move3=Return|move3type=Normal
|move4=Roar|move4type=Normal}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=143
|pokemon=Snorlax
|ability=Immunity|ability2=Thick Fat
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|gender=both
|type1=Normal
|held=Quick Claw
|move1=Body Slam|move1type=Normal
|move2=Belly Drum|move2type=Normal
|move3=Yawn|move3type=Normal
|move4=Shadow Ball|move4type=Ghost}}
{{Party/Footer}}

=====Gold Symbol challenge=====
{{Party/Single
|color={{frontier color}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|headcolor={{frontier color light}}
|sprite=Spr E Anabel.png
|prize=20{{color2|000|Battle Point|BP}}
|class=Salon Maiden
|classlink=Tower Tycoon (Trainer class)
|name=Anabel
|game=E
|location=Battle Tower (Generation III)
|locationname=Battle Tower
|pokemon=3}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=243
|pokemon=Raikou
|ability=Pressure
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|type1=Electric
|held=Lum Berry
|move1=Thunderbolt|move1type=Electric
|move2=Calm Mind|move2type=Psychic
|move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic
|move4=Rest|move4type=Psychic}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=381
|pokemon=Latios
|gender=male
|ability=Levitate
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|type1=Dragon|type2=Psychic
|held=BrightPowder
|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic
|move2=Dragon Claw|move2type=Dragon
|move3=Calm Mind|move3type=Psychic
|move4=Recover|move4type=Normal}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=143
|pokemon=Snorlax
|ability=Immunity|ability2=Thick Fat
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|gender=both
|type1=Normal
|held=Chesto Berry
|move1=Curse|move1type=???
|move2=Return|move2type=Normal
|move3=Rest|move3type=Psychic
|move4=Shadow Ball|move4type=Ghost}}
{{Party/Footer}}

===={{pkmn|Sun and Moon|Pokémon Sun, Moon}}, {{pkmn|Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon}}====
Anabel's Pokémon are kept in [[Ultra Ball]]s.

=====First battle{{sup/7|SM}}=====
{{Party/Single
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|sprite=VSAnabel.png
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|class=Pokémon Trainer
|classlink=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Anabel
|game=SM
|location=Alola Route 8
|locationname=Route 8
|pokemon=5}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=065
|pokemon=Alakazam
|gender=male
|level=61
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Inner Focus
|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Special
|move2=Focus Blast|move2type=Fighting|move2cat=Special
|move3=Psyshock|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Special
|move4=Disable|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Status}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=461
|pokemon=Weavile
|gender=female
|level=61
|type1=Dark|type2=Ice
|ability=Pressure
|move1=Night Slash|move1type=Dark|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical
|move3=X-Scissor|move3type=Bug|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Brick Break|move4type=Fighting|move4cat=Physical}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=429
|pokemon=Mismagius
|gender=female
|level=61
|type1=Ghost
|ability=Levitate
|move1=Shadow Ball|move1type=Ghost|move1cat=Special
|move2=Dazzling Gleam|move2type=Fairy|move2cat=Special
|move3=Energy Ball|move3type=Grass|move3cat=Special
|move4=Thunderbolt|move4type=Electric|move4cat=Special}}
{{Party/Div|color={{frontier color}}}}
|style="margin:auto"|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=373
|pokemon=Salamence
|gender=male
|level=61
|type1=Dragon|type2=Flying
|ability=Intimidate
|move1=Dragon Claw|move1type=Dragon|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Zen Headbutt|move2type=Psychic|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Fire Fang|move3type=Fire|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Thunder Fang|move4type=Electric|move4cat=Physical}}
|style="margin:auto"|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=143
|pokemon=Snorlax
|gender=male
|level=61
|type1=Normal
|ability=Immunity
|move1=Body Slam|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Crunch|move2type=Dark|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Heavy Slam|move3type=Steel|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Yawn|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Status}}
{{Party/Footer}}

=====Battle Tree=====
Anabel uses three of these Pokémon in [[Pokémon battle|Single Battles]], four in [[Double Battle]]s, and two in [[Multi Battle]]s.

{{Party/Single
|color={{frontier color}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
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|sprite=VSAnabel.png
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|prize=2-7{{color2|000|Battle Point|BP}}
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|classlink=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Anabel
|game=SMUSUM
|location=Battle Tree
|pokemon=4}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=065
|pokemon=Alakazam
|gender=both
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|ability2=Inner Focus
|ability3=Magic Guard
|level=50
|held=Alakazite
|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Special
|move2=Focus Blast|move2type=Fighting|move2cat=Special
|move3=Shadow Ball|move3type=Ghost|move3cat=Special
|move4=Grass Knot|move4type=Grass|move4cat=Special}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=065
|pokemon=Alakazam
|gender=both
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|ability2=Inner Focus
|ability3=Magic Guard
|level=50
|held=Choice Specs
|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Special
|move2=Focus Blast|move2type=Fighting|move2cat=Special
|move3=Dazzling Gleam|move3type=Fairy|move3cat=Special
|move4=Trick|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Status}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=143
|pokemon=Snorlax
|gender=both
|type1=Normal
|ability=Immunity
|ability2=Thick Fat
|ability3=Gluttony
|level=50
|held=Life Orb
|move1=Double-Edge|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Earthquake|move2type=Ground|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Crunch|move3type=Dark|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Status}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=143
|pokemon=Snorlax
|gender=both
|type1=Normal
|ability=Immunity
|ability2=Thick Fat
|ability3=Gluttony
|level=50
|held=Assault Vest
|move1=Body Slam|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Fissure|move2type=Ground|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Earthquake|move3type=Ground|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Crunch|move4type=Dark|move4cat=Physical}}
|-
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=243
|pokemon=Raikou
|type1=Electric
|ability=Pressure
|ability2=Inner Focus
|level=50
|held=Shuca Berry
|move1=Thunderbolt|move1type=Electric|move1cat=Special
|move2=Volt Switch|move2type=Electric|move2cat=Special
|move3=Shadow Ball|move3type=Ghost|move3cat=Special
|move4=Extrasensory|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Special}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=243
|pokemon=Raikou
|type1=Electric
|ability=Pressure
|ability2=Inner Focus
|level=50
|held=Electrium Z
|move1=Charge Beam|move1type=Electric|move1cat=Special
|move2=Thunder Wave|move2type=Electric|move2cat=Status
|move3=Calm Mind|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status
|move4=Shadow Ball|move4type=Ghost|move4cat=Special}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=243
|pokemon=Raikou
|type1=Electric
|ability=Pressure
|ability2=Inner Focus
|level=50
|held=Electrium Z
|move1=Thunderbolt|move1type=Electric|move1cat=Special
|move2=Volt Switch|move2type=Electric|move2cat=Special
|move3=Shadow Ball|move3type=Ghost|move3cat=Special
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Status}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=243
|pokemon=Raikou
|type1=Electric
|ability=Pressure
|ability2=Inner Focus
|level=50
|held=Air Balloon
|move1=Thunder|move1type=Electric|move1cat=Special
|move2=Discharge|move2type=Electric|move2cat=Special
|move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status
|move4=Extrasensory|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Special}}
|-
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=244
|pokemon=Entei
|gender=
|type1=Fire
|ability=Pressure
|ability2=Inner Focus
|level=50
|held=Focus Sash
|move1=Overheat|move1type=Fire|move1cat=Special
|move2=Flame Charge|move2type=Fire|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Fire Fang|move3type=Fire|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Stone Edge|move4type=Rock|move4cat=Physical}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=244
|pokemon=Entei
|type1=Fire
|ability=Pressure
|ability2=Inner Focus
|level=50
|held=Chesto Berry
|move1=Calm Mind|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Status
|move2=Will-O-Wisp|move2type=Fire|move2cat=Status
|move3=Flamethrower|move3type=Fire|move3cat=Special
|move4=Rest|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Status}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=244
|pokemon=Entei
|type1=Fire
|ability=Pressure
|ability2=Inner Focus
|level=50
|held=Choice Scarf
|move1=Eruption|move1type=Fire|move1cat=Special
|move2=Fire Blast|move2type=Fire|move2cat=Special
|move3=Extrasensory|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Special
|move4=Solar Beam|move4type=Grass|move4cat=Special}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=244
|pokemon=Entei
|type1=Fire
|ability=Pressure
|ability2=Inner Focus
|level=50
|held=Life Orb
|move1=Sacred Fire|move1type=Fire|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Bulldoze|move2type=Ground|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Stone Edge|move3type=Rock|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Status}}
|-
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=381
|pokemon=Latios
|gender=male
|type1=Dragon|type2=Psychic
|ability=Levitate
|level=50
|held=Lax Incense
|move1=Calm Mind|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Status
|move2=Luster Purge|move2type=Psychic|move2cat=Special
|move3=Dragon Pulse|move3type=Dragon|move3cat=Special
|move4=Recover|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Status}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=381
|pokemon=Latios
|gender=male
|type1=Dragon|type2=Psychic
|ability=Levitate
|level=50
|held=White Herb
|move1=Draco Meteor|move1type=Dragon|move1cat=Special
|move2=Thunderbolt|move2type=Electric|move2cat=Special
|move3=Psychic|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Special
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Status}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=381
|pokemon=Latios
|gender=male
|type1=Dragon|type2=Psychic
|ability=Levitate
|level=50
|held=Choice Specs
|move1=Draco Meteor|move1type=Dragon|move1cat=Special
|move2=Thunder|move2type=Electric|move2cat=Special
|move3=Psychic|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Special
|move4=Energy Ball|move4type=Grass|move4cat=Special}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=381
|pokemon=Latios
|gender=male
|type1=Dragon|type2=Psychic
|ability=Levitate
|level=50
|held=Latiosite
|move1=Zen Headbutt|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Earthquake|move2type=Ground|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Dragon Dance|move3type=Dragon|move3cat=Status
|move4=Dragon Claw|move4type=Dragon|move4cat=Physical}}
|-
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=448
|pokemon=Lucario
|gender=both
|type1=Fighting|type2=Steel
|ability=Steadfast
|ability2=Inner Focus
|ability3=Justified
|level=50
|held=Lucarionite
|move1=Close Combat|move1type=Fighting|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Rock Slide|move2type=Rock|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Blaze Kick|move3type=Fire|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Bullet Punch|move4type=Steel|move4cat=Physical}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=448
|pokemon=Lucario
|gender=both
|type1=Fighting|type2=Steel
|ability=Steadfast
|ability2=Inner Focus
|ability3=Justified
|level=50
|held=Weakness Policy
|move1=Aura Sphere|move1type=Fighting|move1cat=Special
|move2=Dragon Pulse|move2type=Dragon|move2cat=Special
|move3=Stone Edge|move3type=Rock|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Extreme Speed|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}
{{Party/Footer}}

===Quotes===
{{main|Anabel/Quotes}}

==Artwork==
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|-
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background: #{{frontier color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Emerald Salon Maiden Anabel.png|150px]]
|-
| Official artwork from {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Pokémon Emerald}}
|}

===Sprites===
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|-
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background: #{{frontier color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Spr E Anabel.png]]
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background: #{{frontier color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Spr SM Anabel.png|100px]]
|style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background: #{{frontier color light}}; width:150px"| [[File:VSAnabel.png|150px]]
|-
| Sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
| In-battle model from {{color2|000|Pokémon Sun and Moon|Sun, Moon}}, {{color2|000|Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon}}
| VS model from {{color2|000|Pokémon Sun and Moon|Sun, Moon}}, {{color2|000|Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon}}
|-
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background: #{{frontier color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Anabel OD.png]]
|colspan=2 style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background: #{{frontier color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Anabel SM OD.png|100px]]
|-
| Overworld sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
| colspan=2|Overworld model from {{color2|000|Pokémon Sun and Moon|Sun, Moon}}, {{color2|000|Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon}}
|}

==In the anime==
[[File:Anabel anime.png|thumb|250px|Anabel in the {{pkmn|anime}}]]
Anabel debuted in ''[[AG169|Talking a Good Game!]]''. {{Ash}} and {{AP|Pikachu}} met her when they were chased by an angry {{p|Beedrill}}. Anabel quickly calmed Beedrill down after speaking to it, much to Ash's surprise. The pair soon came across a rampaging {{p|Gyarados}}, and Anabel once again showed off her empathy abilities to settled it down. {{TRT}} soon ambushed the duo in an attempt to steal Pikachu, but it soon turned into a {{pkmn|battle}}, which Anabel won after having her {{p|Alakazam}} {{status|Confusion|confuse}} Team Rocket's Pokémon. {{an|May}}, [[Max]], and {{an|Brock}} later caught up with Anabel and Ash, and Anabel escorted everyone to her home to get changed out of their wet clothes. There, they learned that Anabel was actually a girl.

The group then quickly rushed off to the {{OBP|Battle Tower|Generation III}}, but were shocked to learn that Anabel was also the Salon Maiden, who Ash was supposed to challenge for his next [[Symbol]]. Ash lost his first match to Anabel after her powerful Alakazam managed to defeat his {{AP|Corphish}} and {{AP|Tauros}}, consecutively. Pikachu, however, was able to defeat Alakazam in the next round. Anabel then sent out her Metagross, and it knocked Pikachu out with a {{m|Hyper Beam}}.

Anabel reappeared in ''[[AG170|Second Time's the Charm!]]''. Ash once again disturbed a group of Beedrill as he trained with his Pokemon. Tauros was stung and knocked its Trainer and Anabel into a nearby lake, but she quickly shrugged off the incident. While lunch was ruined because of Team Rocket, Anabel tried to teach Ash and May about her psychic powers, but to no avail.

Ash later had his [[rematch]] against Anabel. Corphish was able to defeat Alakazam after Ash listened to it and quickly returned it to its {{i|Poké Ball}} before sending Corphish back out again to overcome its confusion. Corphish lost in the next round, and after an exchange of strengths between Tauros and Metagross, the battle ended in a draw. In the final round, Anabel's {{p|Espeon}} was able to shadow Pikachu's [[move]]s and overwhelm his {{m|Thunderbolt}} with a more powerful {{m|Zap Cannon}}. However, Pikachu caused the facility to have a power outage and used the darkness to strike Espeon. Pikachu concluded the match with a {{m|Volt Tackle}}, earning Ash the Ability Symbol. As they said goodbye to one another, Anabel was revealed to have a crush on Ash.

She reappeared during a flashback in ''[[DP128|A Pyramiding Rage!]]''.

===Character===
Anabel has the empathetic ability to sense the emotions of living beings and communicate with them, ever since she was little. She also shares a particularly strong bond with her Pokémon, and is seemingly able to command them telepathically. Without the vocal commands as a cue, {{Ash}} initially struggled to compete against Anabel.

Anabel uses her Psychic Pokémon's attacks to either {{status|Confusion|confuse}} her opponent's Pokémon or control oncoming attacks. Her Pokémon also know some [[physical move]]s like {{m|Meteor Mash}}, making them equally effective in direct confrontations.

===Pokémon===
This listing is of Anabel's known Pokémon in the {{pkmn|anime}}:

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Alakazam
|type1=Psychic
|img=Anabel Alakazam.png
|epnum=AG169
|epname=Talking a Good Game!
|vajp=Kenta Miyake
|vaen=Maddie Blaustein
|desc=Anabel first called on {{p|Alakazam}} in ''[[AG169|Talking a Good Game!]]'' to help her and {{Ash}} when they were attacked by {{TRT}}. Alakazam was able to defeat them with its powerful Psychic attack. Ash then realized that Anabel was a [[Frontier Brain]] and that he would have to battle Alakazam. Ash chose {{AP|Corphish}} for that match. In the end, Alakazam easily defeated {{p|Corphish}} and {{AP|Tauros}} before finally being defeated by his {{AP|Pikachu}}, but it was able to weaken it beforehand.

In ''[[AG170|Second Time's the Charm!]]'', Ash had a [[rematch]] with Anabel. Again, she chose Alakazam as her first Pokémon. It went head to head against Corphish once again, but this time, Alakazam was defeated by Corphish's {{m|Bubble Beam}} after Ash found a way to overcome Corphish's confusion.

Alakazam's known moves are {{m|Psychic}}, {{m|Psybeam}}, {{m|Focus Punch}}, and {{m|Recover}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Metagross
|type1=Steel
|type2=Psychic
|img=Anabel Metagross.png
|epnum=AG169
|epname=Talking a Good Game!
|vajp=Unshō Ishizuka
|vaen=Unshō Ishizuka
|desc={{p|Metagross}} was first seen during {{Ash}}'s first match against her, where it easily defeated {{AP|Pikachu}}, losing the match for Ash. During Ash's [[rematch]] against Anabel, Metagross easily defeated {{AP|Corphish}}, but the Iron Leg Pokémon later tied with {{AP|Tauros}} after its Meteor Mash collided with Tauros's {{m|Take Down}}.

Metagross's known moves are {{m|Psychic}}, {{m|Iron Defense}}, {{m|Meteor Mash}}, and {{m|Hyper Beam}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Espeon
|type1=Psychic
|img=Anabel Espeon.png
|epnum=AG170
|epname=Second Time's the Charm!
|vajp=Megumi Hayashibara
|vaen=Megumi Hayashibara
|desc={{p|Espeon}}, Anabel's favorite Pokémon, was seen during {{Ash}}'s [[rematch]] against her, where it battled {{AP|Pikachu}}. Even though Espeon initially managed to overwhelm Pikachu with its speed and power, one of Pikachu's {{m|Thunderbolt}}s turned the lights off, making it impossible for both Anabel and Espeon to see where the next attack was coming from. This cost some critical hits for Espeon, and Pikachu was finally able to defeat the Sun Pokémon with a {{m|Volt Tackle}}, winning the match for Ash and earning him the [[Symbol|Ability Symbol]].

It also reappeared in a flashback in ''[[DP128|A Pyramiding Rage!]].

Espeon's known moves are {{m|Quick Attack}}, {{m|Iron Tail}}, {{m|Zap Cannon}}, and {{m|Psychic}}.}}

===Voice actors===
{{vatable|color={{frontier color}}|bordercolor={{frontier color light}}
|ja=木村亜希子 ''[[Akiko Kimura]]''
|en=[[Hilary Thomas]]
|es_la=Rebeca Gómez
|es_eu=Sara Vivas
|fi=Elise Langenoja
|it=Daniela Fava
|pt_br=Gilmara Sanchez}}

==In the manga==
===Pokémon Adventures===
[[File:Anabel Adventures.png|thumb|270px|Anabel in Pokémon Adventures]]
====History====
====={{chap|Emerald}}=====
Anabel is one of the seven {{pkmn|Trainer}}s hired by [[Scott]] to be a [[Frontier Brain]] at the {{gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}. Anabel is first seen watching the Battle Frontier's opening ceremony. The ceremony is interrupted by {{adv|Emerald}}, who announces that he wishes to conquer the Battle Frontier. The press mistakenly report the incident as allowing an ordinary Trainer to take part in the Battle Frontier before it officially opens a week later. The Frontier Brains decide to use this assumption as free publicity and allow Emerald to challenge the Battle Frontier under the condition that he completes it before it officially opens.

Later, while Emerald is challenging the [[Battle Pyramid]], Noland is attacked by an unknown assailant and several rental Pokémon are stolen. After Noland is taken to a hospital, the other Frontier Brains begin to suspect Emerald as the culprit. They head to the Battle Pyramid to confront Emerald and find him after having defeated Brandon. When they ask him about what happened, Emerald reveals that he did not attack Noland and is actually after the Mythical Pokémon {{adv|Jirachi}}. The Frontier Brains find Emerald's explanation suspicious, but decide to follow him into [[Artisan Cave]], where Jirachi is currently located at. Upon arriving, everyone is attacked by a horde of wild {{p|Smeargle}} while Emerald continues inside to find Jirachi. After the Frontier Brains get past the Smeargle, they meet up with Emerald, who has managed to find Jirachi. Emerald attempts to capture Jirachi, but is attacked by [[Guile Hideout]], the actual culprit who attacked Noland. When Jirachi runs off, Emerald attempts to pursue it, only to be attacked by the rental Pokémon Guile had stolen. The other Frontier Brains attempt to avenge Noland by attacking Guile, but are swiftly defeated.
[[File:Anabel SM chapter.png|150px|thumb|Anabel in the fourteenth chapter]]
Anabel applauds Emerald for focusing on his mission instead of staying behind to fight and offers to fight Guile while he focuses on capturing Jirachi. Using Raikou's control over lightning, Anabel manages to trap Guile in a cage of electricity. Emerald attempts to use this chance to capture Jirachi, but Guile uses his sword to destroy the Poké Ball and breaks free from the cage. Jirachi takes this chance to flee, forcing Guile to escape as well to continue his pursuit of it. Injured from the battle, everyone decides to return to the Battle Frontier. When they meet up with Scott again, he reveals that he was aware of Guile and Emerald's true mission the entire time. Scott states that he withheld the information from the Frontier Brains to help them get stronger as they still would have lost even if they had known of Guile beforehand.

The next day, Anabel watches the tournament being hosted at the [[Battle Dome]], where Emerald is challenging to obtain his fifth Symbol. As Emerald battles Tucker in the finals, Scott asks Anabel to talk with him somewhere else. This Scott is revealed to be a disguised Guile, who puts Anabel under mind control. After this, Guile returns to the Battle Dome, where he manages to find and capture Jirachi. Guile uses the rental Pokémon to attack innocent bystanders and heads to the {{gdis|Battle Tower|III}} to make his wish. Emerald, Noland, {{adv|Ruby}}, and {{adv|Sapphire}} all head to the Battle Tower to stop Guile, but are forced to traverse the Battle Tower's seventy floors and challenge Anabel on the final floor. Emerald manages to get to Anabel first, but is defeated by the time everyone else arrives.

The stress of the mind control eventually causes Anabel to pass out, forcing Guile to use her as a hostage in order to force Noland to give him the Jirachi Report, which contains the secrets of how to make Jirachi grant his wish. When Noland is unsure about what to do, Guile attacks him and takes the report by force. Now knowing Jirachi's secret, Guile has Jirachi create a gigantic {{p|Kyogre}} made of seawater and uses it to flood the entire Battle Frontier. Anabel is taken to safety by {{p|Latios}} and later awakens to help the Frontier Brains fight off Guile's rental Pokémon while Emerald and the other Pokédex holders fight Guile. Eventually, Emerald and the Pokédex holders manage to defeat Guile and destroy the gigantic Kyogre monster. The day after, an injured Anabel and the other Frontier Brains congratulate Emerald for the hard work he put into saving everyone. Anabel then awards Emerald the Ability Symbol for his skills in traversing the Battle Tower.

====={{chap|Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire}}=====
Anabel and the other Hoenn Frontier Brains battle and defeat the Admins of Neo [[Team Magma]] and Neo [[Team Aqua]], who had interfered in the launch of a rocket that was made to stop the [[Grand Meteor Delta|meteoroid]] threatening to destroy the world. Once finished, Anabel is contacted by Emerald, who asks if any of the Frontier Brains had seen Sapphire in the area. When the Brains deny seeing Sapphire, Emerald thanks them and leaves. Later, Anabel and the other Hoenn Frontier Brains are called to [[Sootopolis City]] to assist in stopping the meteoroid.

====={{chap|Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon}}=====
It was revealed that Anabel had become a member of the [[International Police]]. She, along with {{adv|Looker}} first appear investigating [[Po Town]], where several [[Ultra Beasts]] had appeared before breaking out and wreaking havoc on [[Ula'ula Island]]. Shortly after arriving, Anabel and Looker meet with {{adv|Sun}} and {{adv|Moon}}, a pair of children who had previously faced the Ultra Beasts. While she questioned Sun and Moon about the beasts, Anabel had Looker go off to investigate the rampaging beasts to find information on them as well. After receiving the information, Anabel sent out her {{p|Mismagius}} to battle {{p|Blacephalon}}, another Ultra Beast that emerged from an [[Ultra Wormhole]].

Together with Sun, Anabel managed to stun Blacephalon long enough to throw a {{i|Poké Ball}} at it, but Blacephalon immediately breaks out, confirming that regular Poké Balls do not work on Ultra Beasts. Blacephalon retaliates by using {{m|Mind Blown}} on the group, forcing Anabel to get everyone out of the way. Anabel and the others are saved by {{p|Tapu Bulu}}, the [[Guardian deities|guardian deity]] of Ula'ula Island, who used a large gust of wind to blow both Blacephalon and its attack far away. As Sun and Moon feed a [[Mirage Berry]] to Tapu Bulu to befriend it, Anabel speculates that there must be a man hiding in Alola capable of making Poké Balls that are able to capture Ultra Beasts.

Later, Anabel, Sun, and Moon head towards [[Poni Island]]. Anabel revealed to Sun and Moon that {{p|Xurkitree}} and Blacephalon are also making their way to Poni. Due to Poni not having an [[Island Kahuna]], there would be no one capable enough of protecting the island from the two beasts. Sun, more fixated on delivering the next Mirage Berry to {{p|Tapu Fini}}, decided to head off and find someone who can help him search for it. After docking on Poni, Anabel and Moon arrived at [[Seafolk Village]], which had been evacuated due to the Ultra Beasts' attacks. Worried that some injured people may still be there, Anabel requested to Moon that she help heal any hurt civilians. As they walked through [[Poni Wilds]], Moon asked Anabel how she knew the names of the Ultra Beasts. Anabel then revealed that she knew because she is a Faller, a human who had passed through an Ultra Wormhole.

Later, Anabel and Moon traveled to [[Vast Poni Canyon]], where they witnessed [[Faba]] battling [[Plumeria]]. Anabel confronted Faba about the [[Aether Foundation]]'s involvement with the Ultra Beasts' appearance in Alola. Worried that his plans could be jeopardized, Faba has his {{tc|Aether Foundation Employee}}s battle against Anabel and Moon, hoping the distraction would give him the chance to escape. Anabel used her Pokémon to keep the Employees busy while she, Moon, and Plumeria followed Faba. As he approached the [[Poni Altar]], Faba revealed he was aware of his pursuers and proceeded to attack them while assisted by more Employees. During the battle, Moon was grabbed by {{p|Tapu Koko}} and taken to the Poni Altar.

Later, Anabel managed to defeat and capture Faba. After meeting with [[Gladion]], [[Lillie]], and [[Hapu]], the four traveled to the Altar, where they found that Sun and Moon managed to summon {{p|Solgaleo}} and {{p|Lunala}}, the [[Legendary Pokémon]] of the Alola region. After explaining what Solgaleo and Lunala are and their connection with {{p|Cosmog}}, Anabel received a call from Looker, who reported that a large number of Ultra Beasts emerged from Po Town and have made their way to Poni Island. Anabel teamed up with Moon, Gladion, and Hapu to fend off the attacking beasts. Later, a larger than usual wormhole opened at the Altar, which Anabel noted was caused by the {{p|Necrozma|Blinding One}}. A hand emerged from the wormhole and grabbed Solgaleo, taking control of its body. The possessed Solgaleo captured Sun with its tail and jumped into the wormhole while Moon and [[Nebby]] followed after it.

====Pokémon====
=====On hand=====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Mismagius
|type1=Ghost
|img=Anabel Mismagius Adventures.png
|epnum=PASM20
|epname=An Urgent Task and the Capture of an Ultra Beast
|desc={{p|Mismagius}} is Anabel's second known Pokémon. It was first used to battle a {{p|Blacephalon}} at [[Po Town]] alongside {{adv|Sun}}'s [[Cent]]. Together, they managed to stun it long enough for Anabel to attempt a capture, but the [[Ultra Beast]] broke out of the {{i|Poké Ball}} easily.

Mismagius's known moves are {{m|Magical Leaf}} and {{m|Phantom Force}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Salamence
|type1=Dragon
|type2=Flying
|img=Anabel Salamence Adventures.png
|epnum=PASM23
|epname=Battle in Vast Poni Canyon
|desc={{p|Salamence}} is Anabel's third known Pokémon. It was first seen keeping Anabel and {{adv|Moon}} in the air while they confronted [[Faba]] at [[Vast Poni Canyon]].

None of Salamence's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Alakazam
|type1=Psychic
|img=Anabel Alakazam Adventures.png
|epnum=PASM24
|epname=Play the Melody That Echoes in the Altar
|desc={{p|Alakazam}} is Anabel's fourth known Pokémon. It was first used to battle a group of {{tc|Aether Foundation Employee}}s at [[Vast Poni Canyon]].

None of Alakazam's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Snorlax
|type1=Normal
|img=Anabel Snorlax Adventures.png
|epnum=PASM24
|epname=Play the Melody That Echoes in the Altar
|desc={{p|Snorlax}} is Anabel's fifth known Pokémon. It was first used to battle a group of {{tc|Aether Foundation Employee}}s at [[Vast Poni Canyon]].

None of Snorlax's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Weavile
|type1=Dark
|type2=Ice
|img=Anabel Weavile Adventures.png
|epnum=PASM24
|epname=Play the Melody That Echoes in the Altar
|desc={{p|Weavile}} is Anabel's sixth known Pokémon. It was first used to battle a group of {{tc|Aether Foundation Employee}}s at [[Vast Poni Canyon]].

None of Weavile's moves are known.}}

=====Status unknown=====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Raikou
|type1=Electric
|img=Anabel Raikou Adventures.png
|epnum=PS117
|epname=Slugging It Out With Slugma
|desc={{main|Legendary beasts (Adventures)#Raikou|Raikou (Adventures)}}

Anabel caught this {{p|Raikou}} after it was released following the battle against the [[Masked Man]]. She is said to have captured this Legendary Pokémon during her trip somewhere in Johto. Raikou has been with her since then and she continues to rely on it for all of her battles. Because it carries a large thundercloud on its back, it both allows a handier usage of its trademark Thunder as well as strengthen it.}}

===Pokémon Battle Frontier===
[[File:Anabel CBF.png|100px|thumb|Anabel in Pokémon Battle Frontier]]
[[File:Anabel photographer CBF.png|thumb|left|100px|Anabel as a photographer]]
Anabel first appeared in ''[[CBF4|Introducing the Frontier Brains!]]'', disguised as a photographer. She took a picture of [[Enta's Vulpix]] and {{p|Feebas}}. She told Enta about the Frontier Brains after [[Rald]] was defeated by her, prompting him to challenge them in order to discover which one defeated Rald.

After Enta defeated his sixth Frontier Brain, [[Lucy]], he was told that the seventh one is none other than Anabel herself, much to his surprise. Enta's battle with Anabel ended up in a draw after a showdown between Ninetales and Entei.
{{-}}

====Pokémon====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Entei
|type1=Fire
|img=Anabel Entei CBF.png
|epnum=CBF6
|epname=Final Battle: Versus The Salon Maiden
|desc={{p|Entei}} was the first revealed Pokémon. It was the final Pokémon that went up against {{OBP|Enta|CBF}} after both sides were down to one Pokémon. It battled Ninetales and managed to dodge many of its attacks. In the end, despite putting up a great fight, it ended up defeating Ninetales and got knocked out in the process.

Entei's known moves are {{m|Double Team}} and {{m|Fire Blast}}{{tt|*|mentioned only}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Alakazam
|type1=Psychic
|img=Anabel Alakazam CBF.png
|epnum=CBF6
|epname=Final Battle: Versus The Salon Maiden
|desc={{p|Alakazam}} was the first opponent who battled Enta. It went up against {{p|Zangoose}} and won using its speed. Alakazam then went up against Milotic where it was taken out by Milotic's {{m|Hydro Pump}}.

None of Alakazam's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Snorlax
|type1=Normal
|img=Anabel Snorlax CBF.png
|epnum=CBF6
|epname=Final Battle: Versus The Salon Maiden
|desc={{p|Snorlax}} was the second opponent that battled Enta. Snorlax battled Milotic after Milotic defeated Alakazam. Due to Milotic's previous opponent, Snorlax was able to take it out with Body Slam. Snorlax then battled {{TP|Enta|Ninetales}} and was easily defeated by Ninetales's {{m|Hyper Beam}}.

Snorlax's only known move is {{m|Body Slam}}.}}

==Trivia==
* Despite being female, in Japanese, Anabel uses the typically masculine personal pronoun ボク ''boku''.
* Anabel is the only [[Frontier Brain]] whose title (in some languages) does not incorporate the second word of their facility's name. However, the Battle Salon is an actual room in a {{gdis|Battle Tower|III}} where Trainers can meet each other and team up to participate in [[Multi Battle]]s.
** In the anime episode wherein she made her debut, Anabel was mentioned to be the head of the Battle Tower's Battle Salon.
* In the anime, her {{p|Espeon}} knows {{m|Zap Cannon}}, a move [[Anime move errors|it could not learn in the games]] at the time of her anime appearance during [[Generation III]].
* Anabel's ability to sense the feelings of Pokémon is similar to that of {{an|N}} in the anime and [[Sheena]] from the [[M12|twelfth movie]].
* Anabel's [[Battle Tree]] battle music in {{pkmn|Sun and Moon}} and {{pkmn|Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon}} is a completely unaltered version of the Frontier Brain battle theme from Emerald.
* Anabel is 165 cm (5'5") tall in [[Generation VII]].

==Names==
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{frontier color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{frontier color}}"
|-
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Japanese
| リラ ''Lila''
| From ''lilas'' (French for {{wp|Syringa vulgaris|lilac}}) or ''lila'' (Spanish for lilac)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| English
| Anabel
| From ''ability''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| German
| Anabel
| From ''Anlage'' (asset)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Spanish
| Destra
| From ''destreza'' (skill)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| French
| Cathy
| From ''capacité'' (skill)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Italian
| Alberta
| From ''abilità'' (ability)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Korean
| 리라 ''Lila''
| Transcription of her Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and Mainland China}})
| 莉拉 ''Lìlā''
| rowspan="2" | Transcription of her Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Cantonese|Hong Kong}})
| 莉拉 ''Leihlāai''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Vietnamese
| Lila
| Transcription of her Japanese name.
|}

==Related articles==
* [[a:Category:Anabel|Images on the Bulbagarden Archives]]
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Anabel

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{{CharInfobox
|color={{frontier color}}
|corecolor={{frontier color light}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|name=Anabel
|jname=リラ
|tmname=Lila
|image=Anabel SM concept art.png
|size=200px
|caption=Concept art from Generation VII
|gender=Female
|colors=yes
|eyes=Lilac
|hair=Lilac
|hometown=Unknown
|region=[[Hoenn]]{{pkmn|games|*}}/[[Kanto]][[Pokémon anime|*]]
|relatives=Unknown
|trainer=yes
|trainerclass={{tc|Tower Tycoon|Salon Maiden}}{{sup/3|E}} [[Frontier Brain|(Frontier Brain)]] [[Pokémon Trainer]]{{sup/7|SMUSUM}}
|game=yes
|generation={{gen|III}}, {{gen|VII}}
|games={{v2|Emerald}}, {{pkmn|Sun and Moon}}, {{pkmn|Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon}}
|leader=no
|brain=yes
|facility={{gdis|Battle Tower|III}}
|symbol=Ability Symbol
|specialist=yes
|type={{t|Psychic}} types{{tt|*|Anime only}}
|anime=yes
|epnum=AG169
|epname=Talking a Good Game
|enva=[[Hilary Thomas]]
|java=[[Akiko Kimura]]
}}

'''Anabel''' (Japanese: '''リラ''' ''Lila'') is an [[International Police]] officer and [[Pokémon Trainer]] who was introduced as a [[Frontier Brain]] in charge of running the {{gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}'s {{gdis|Battle Tower|III}} under the title of '''{{tc|Tower Tycoon|Salon Maiden}}''' (Japanese: '''タワータイクーン''' ''Tower Tycoon''). In [[Generation VII]], she works with [[Looker]].

==In the games==
===Generation III===
Anabel is described as a "mysterious [[Trainer]]" by a resident of the Battle Frontier. She first appears in the {{gdis|Battle Tower|III}} as the 35th opponent the {{player}} faces, unimpressed by the rumors she has heard about their accomplishments. She battles the player with a team meant to size them up, and awards the [[Symbol|Ability Symbol]] onto the {{DL|Trainer Card (game)|Frontier Pass}} upon defeat. Now understanding the player's ability, she urges them to continue their winning streak and reach her again.

Later, Anabel appears again at the 70th consecutive match. This time, she is happy that the player won consecutive matches to see her, and that she can battle flat-out without holding back at all. After being defeated, she thanks the player for giving her a battle more enjoyable than any she ever had before, and confers the Gold Symbol upon them.

She is one of the two known {{tc|Tower Tycoon}}s, the other one being [[Palmer]] of the Battle Tower in the [[Sinnoh]] region.

===Generation VII===
{{Spoilers}}
Ten years prior to the events of {{pkmn|Sun and Moon}}, Anabel was found unconscious on a [[Poni Island]] beach by [[Looker]] and [[Nanu]], who had just completed a mission for the [[International Police]]. She had lost most of her memories, only able to tell them her name, that she came from Hoenn, that she protected a tower there, and that she was a powerful Trainer. After being placed in the care of the International Police, they detected incredible amounts of [[Ultra Wormhole]] energy coming from her, implying that she was a Faller who was lost in a wormhole for a significant time. Anabel has never been informed of this, however.

Anabel eventually joined the International Police herself and quickly ascended the ranks, until she ended up as Looker's superior in the UB Task Force, a secret division of the International Police that deals with [[Ultra Beast]]s. After the player becomes {{pkmn|Champion}} in Pokémon Sun and Moon, they will meet Anabel and Looker when they visit the {{rt|8|Alola}} motel on [[Akala Island]].

When the player meets Anabel and Looker, the pair recruit the player to the UB Task Force. Although one of the task force's duties is to either safeguard or destroy the Ultra Beasts, neither Anabel nor Looker wishes to harm them, so they need the help of the new Champion of Alola. Anabel will also battle the player to ensure that they are up to the job.

The group proceeds to track down and catch Ultra Beasts across all four of Alola's islands. After the player catches the first, Nihilego, Anabel arranges for the player to keep the Ultra Beasts, rather than delivering them to the International Police where they would end up as research subjects. During each mission, Anabel's job is to protect nearby populated areas with the assistance of her Pokémon. As the missions continue, however, Anabel starts to show signs of fatigue. Apparently, the Ultra Beasts are being drawn to her strongly as a Faller and becoming extremely aggressive toward her, which is only exacerbated when there are multiple of them that can assail her simultaneously. In the last mission, Looker finally misdirects her away from the action so that she can recover her strength.

After all of the Ultra Beasts have been caught, the International Police HQ grants Anabel and Looker paid leave until they receive their next orders. Anabel plans to go meet with Nanu again and then spend her time sightseeing around Alola.

Anabel can later be encountered again as a Trainer in the [[Battle Tree]], primarily using Pokémon from her Emerald roster.

In {{pkmn|Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon}}, Anabel makes a cameo appearance with Looker in [[Poni Plains]]. The two block the way to [[Poni Coast]] until the UB incident at [[Poni Grove]] is resolved, at which point Anabel leaves to go to the Battle Tree for training. It is mentioned that in these games, Anabel and Looker are on vacation in Alola instead of being there for a mission.

===Pokémon===
===={{game|Emerald}}====
=====Silver Symbol challenge=====
{{Party/Single
|color={{frontier color}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|headcolor={{frontier color light}}
|sprite=Spr E Anabel.png
|prize=15{{color2|000|Battle Point|BP}}
|class=Salon Maiden
|classlink=Tower Tycoon (Trainer class)
|name=Anabel
|game=E
|location=Battle Tower (Generation III)
|locationname=Battle Tower
|pokemon=3}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=065
|pokemon=Alakazam
|ability=Synchronize|ability2=Inner Focus
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|gender=both
|type1=Psychic
|held=BrightPowder
|move1=Ice Punch|move1type=Ice
|move2=ThunderPunch|move2type=Electric
|move3=Fire Punch|move3type=Fire
|move4=Disable|move4type=Normal}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=244
|pokemon=Entei
|ability=Pressure
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|type1=Fire
|held=Lum Berry
|move1=Fire Blast|move1type=Fire
|move2=Calm Mind|move2type=Psychic
|move3=Return|move3type=Normal
|move4=Roar|move4type=Normal}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=143
|pokemon=Snorlax
|ability=Immunity|ability2=Thick Fat
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|gender=both
|type1=Normal
|held=Quick Claw
|move1=Body Slam|move1type=Normal
|move2=Belly Drum|move2type=Normal
|move3=Yawn|move3type=Normal
|move4=Shadow Ball|move4type=Ghost}}
{{Party/Footer}}

=====Gold Symbol challenge=====
{{Party/Single
|color={{frontier color}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|headcolor={{frontier color light}}
|sprite=Spr E Anabel.png
|prize=20{{color2|000|Battle Point|BP}}
|class=Salon Maiden
|classlink=Tower Tycoon (Trainer class)
|name=Anabel
|game=E
|location=Battle Tower (Generation III)
|locationname=Battle Tower
|pokemon=3}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=243
|pokemon=Raikou
|ability=Pressure
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|type1=Electric
|held=Lum Berry
|move1=Thunderbolt|move1type=Electric
|move2=Calm Mind|move2type=Psychic
|move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic
|move4=Rest|move4type=Psychic}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=381
|pokemon=Latios
|gender=male
|ability=Levitate
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|type1=Dragon|type2=Psychic
|held=BrightPowder
|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic
|move2=Dragon Claw|move2type=Dragon
|move3=Calm Mind|move3type=Psychic
|move4=Recover|move4type=Normal}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=143
|pokemon=Snorlax
|ability=Immunity|ability2=Thick Fat
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|gender=both
|type1=Normal
|held=Chesto Berry
|move1=Curse|move1type=???
|move2=Return|move2type=Normal
|move3=Rest|move3type=Psychic
|move4=Shadow Ball|move4type=Ghost}}
{{Party/Footer}}

===={{pkmn|Sun and Moon|Pokémon Sun, Moon}}, {{pkmn|Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon}}====
Anabel's Pokémon are kept in [[Ultra Ball]]s.

=====First battle{{sup/7|SM}}=====
{{Party/Single
|color={{frontier color}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|headcolor={{frontier color light}}
|sprite=VSAnabel.png
|size=150px
|prize={{pdollar}}13,420
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|classlink=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Anabel
|game=SM
|location=Alola Route 8
|locationname=Route 8
|pokemon=5}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=065
|pokemon=Alakazam
|gender=male
|level=61
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Inner Focus
|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Special
|move2=Focus Blast|move2type=Fighting|move2cat=Special
|move3=Psyshock|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Special
|move4=Disable|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Status}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=461
|pokemon=Weavile
|gender=female
|level=61
|type1=Dark|type2=Ice
|ability=Pressure
|move1=Night Slash|move1type=Dark|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical
|move3=X-Scissor|move3type=Bug|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Brick Break|move4type=Fighting|move4cat=Physical}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=429
|pokemon=Mismagius
|gender=female
|level=61
|type1=Ghost
|ability=Levitate
|move1=Shadow Ball|move1type=Ghost|move1cat=Special
|move2=Dazzling Gleam|move2type=Fairy|move2cat=Special
|move3=Energy Ball|move3type=Grass|move3cat=Special
|move4=Thunderbolt|move4type=Electric|move4cat=Special}}
{{Party/Div|color={{frontier color}}}}
|style="margin:auto"|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=373
|pokemon=Salamence
|gender=male
|level=61
|type1=Dragon|type2=Flying
|ability=Intimidate
|move1=Dragon Claw|move1type=Dragon|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Zen Headbutt|move2type=Psychic|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Fire Fang|move3type=Fire|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Thunder Fang|move4type=Electric|move4cat=Physical}}
|style="margin:auto"|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=143
|pokemon=Snorlax
|gender=male
|level=61
|type1=Normal
|ability=Immunity
|move1=Body Slam|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Crunch|move2type=Dark|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Heavy Slam|move3type=Steel|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Yawn|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Status}}
{{Party/Footer}}

=====Battle Tree=====
Anabel uses three of these Pokémon in [[Pokémon battle|Single Battles]], four in [[Double Battle]]s, and two in [[Multi Battle]]s.

{{Party/Single
|color={{frontier color}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|headcolor={{frontier color light}}
|sprite=VSAnabel.png
|size=150px
|prize=2-7{{color2|000|Battle Point|BP}}
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|classlink=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Anabel
|game=SMUSUM
|location=Battle Tree
|pokemon=4}}
|
{{lop/facility/head|{{frontier color light}}|{{frontier color}}|{{frontier color}}}}
{{lop/facility|065|Alakazam|Alakazite|Psychic|Psychic|Focus Blast|Fighting|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Grass Knot|Grass|Timid||||252||252}}
{{lop/facility|448|Lucario|Lucarionite|Close Combat|Fighting|Rock Slide|Rock|Blaze Kick|Fire|Bullet Punch|Steel|Jolly||252||||252}}
{{lop/facility|143|Snorlax|Life Orb|Double-Edge|Normal|Earthquake|Ground|Crunch|Dark|Protect|Normal|Adamant||252|252|||}}
{{lop/facility|065|Alakazam|Choice Specs|Psychic|Psychic|Focus Blast|Fighting|Dazzling Gleam|Fairy|Trick|Psychic|Timid||||252||252}}
{{lop/facility|448|Lucario|Weakness Policy|Aura Sphere|Fighting|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Stone Edge|Rock|Extreme Speed|Normal|Serious||170||170||170}}
{{lop/facility|143|Snorlax|Assault Vest|Body Slam|Normal|Fissure|Ground|Earthquake|Ground|Crunch|Dark|Careful|252||||252|}}
{{lop/facility|243|Raikou|Shuca Berry|Thunderbolt|Electric|Volt Switch|Electric|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Extrasensory|Psychic|Timid||||252||252}}
{{lop/facility|244|Entei|Focus Sash|Overheat|Fire|Flame Charge|Fire|Fire Fang|Fire|Stone Edge|Rock|Lonely||252||||252}}
{{lop/facility|381|Latios|Lax Incense|Calm Mind|Psychic|Luster Purge|Psychic|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Recover|Normal|Bold|252||252|||}}
{{lop/facility|243|Raikou|Electrium Z|Charge Beam|Electric|Thunder Wave|Electric|Calm Mind|Psychic|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Timid|||252|||252}}
{{lop/facility|244|Entei|Chesto Berry|Calm Mind|Psychic|Will-O-Wisp|Fire|Flamethrower|Fire|Rest|Psychic|Bold|170||170||170|}}
{{lop/facility|381|Latios|White Herb|Draco Meteor|Dragon|Thunderbolt|Electric|Psychic|Psychic|Protect|Normal|Timid||||252||252}}
{{lop/facility|243|Raikou|Electrium Z|Thunderbolt|Electric|Volt Switch|Electric|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Protect|Normal|Timid||||252||252}}
{{lop/facility|244|Entei|Choice Scarf|Eruption|Fire|Fire Blast|Fire|Extrasensory|Psychic|Solar Beam|Grass|Timid||||252||252}}
{{lop/facility|381|Latios|Choice Specs|Draco Meteor|Dragon|Thunder|Electric|Psychic|Psychic|Energy Ball|Grass|Timid||||252||252}}
{{lop/facility|243|Raikou|Air Balloon|Thunder|Electric|Discharge|Electric|Reflect|Psychic|Extrasensory|Psychic|Timid||||252||252}}
{{lop/facility|244|Entei|Life Orb|Sacred Fire|Fire|Bulldoze|Ground|Stone Edge|Rock|Protect|Normal|Adamant|252|252||||}}
{{lop/facility|381|Latios|Latiosite|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Earthquake|Ground|Dragon Dance|Dragon|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Adamant||252||||252}}
|}
{{Party/Footer}}

===Quotes===
{{main|Anabel/Quotes}}

==Artwork==
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| Official artwork from {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Pokémon Emerald}}
|}

===Sprites===
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| Sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
| In-battle model from {{color2|000|Pokémon Sun and Moon|Sun, Moon}}, {{color2|000|Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon}}
| VS model from {{color2|000|Pokémon Sun and Moon|Sun, Moon}}, {{color2|000|Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon}}
|-
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|colspan=2 style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background: #{{frontier color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Anabel SM OD.png|100px]]
|-
| Overworld sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
| colspan=2|Overworld model from {{color2|000|Pokémon Sun and Moon|Sun, Moon}}, {{color2|000|Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon}}
|}

==In the anime==
[[File:Anabel anime.png|thumb|250px|Anabel in the {{pkmn|anime}}]]
Anabel debuted in ''[[AG169|Talking a Good Game!]]''. {{Ash}} and {{AP|Pikachu}} met her when they were chased by an angry {{p|Beedrill}}. Anabel quickly calmed Beedrill down after speaking to it, much to Ash's surprise. The pair soon came across a rampaging {{p|Gyarados}}, and Anabel once again showed off her empathy abilities to settled it down. {{TRT}} soon ambushed the duo in an attempt to steal Pikachu, but it soon turned into a {{pkmn|battle}}, which Anabel won after having her {{p|Alakazam}} {{status|Confusion|confuse}} Team Rocket's Pokémon. {{an|May}}, [[Max]], and {{an|Brock}} later caught up with Anabel and Ash, and Anabel escorted everyone to her home to get changed out of their wet clothes. There, they learned that Anabel was actually a girl.

The group then quickly rushed off to the {{OBP|Battle Tower|Generation III}}, but were shocked to learn that Anabel was also the Salon Maiden, who Ash was supposed to challenge for his next [[Symbol]]. Ash lost his first match to Anabel after her powerful Alakazam managed to defeat his {{AP|Corphish}} and {{AP|Tauros}}, consecutively. Pikachu, however, was able to defeat Alakazam in the next round. Anabel then sent out her Metagross, and it knocked Pikachu out with a {{m|Hyper Beam}}.

Anabel reappeared in ''[[AG170|Second Time's the Charm!]]''. Ash once again disturbed a group of Beedrill as he trained with his Pokemon. Tauros was stung and knocked its Trainer and Anabel into a nearby lake, but she quickly shrugged off the incident. While lunch was ruined because of Team Rocket, Anabel tried to teach Ash and May about her psychic powers, but to no avail.

Ash later had his [[rematch]] against Anabel. Corphish was able to defeat Alakazam after Ash listened to it and quickly returned it to its {{i|Poké Ball}} before sending Corphish back out again to overcome its confusion. Corphish lost in the next round, and after an exchange of strengths between Tauros and Metagross, the battle ended in a draw. In the final round, Anabel's {{p|Espeon}} was able to shadow Pikachu's [[move]]s and overwhelm his {{m|Thunderbolt}} with a more powerful {{m|Zap Cannon}}. However, Pikachu caused the facility to have a power outage and used the darkness to strike Espeon. Pikachu concluded the match with a {{m|Volt Tackle}}, earning Ash the Ability Symbol. As they said goodbye to one another, Anabel was revealed to have a crush on Ash.

She reappeared during a flashback in ''[[DP128|A Pyramiding Rage!]]''.

===Character===
Anabel has the empathetic ability to sense the emotions of living beings and communicate with them, ever since she was little. She also shares a particularly strong bond with her Pokémon, and is seemingly able to command them telepathically. Without the vocal commands as a cue, {{Ash}} initially struggled to compete against Anabel.

Anabel uses her Psychic Pokémon's attacks to either {{status|Confusion|confuse}} her opponent's Pokémon or control oncoming attacks. Her Pokémon also know some [[physical move]]s like {{m|Meteor Mash}}, making them equally effective in direct confrontations.

===Pokémon===
This listing is of Anabel's known Pokémon in the {{pkmn|anime}}:

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Alakazam
|type1=Psychic
|img=Anabel Alakazam.png
|epnum=AG169
|epname=Talking a Good Game!
|vajp=Kenta Miyake
|vaen=Maddie Blaustein
|desc=Anabel first called on {{p|Alakazam}} in ''[[AG169|Talking a Good Game!]]'' to help her and {{Ash}} when they were attacked by {{TRT}}. Alakazam was able to defeat them with its powerful Psychic attack. Ash then realized that Anabel was a [[Frontier Brain]] and that he would have to battle Alakazam. Ash chose {{AP|Corphish}} for that match. In the end, Alakazam easily defeated {{p|Corphish}} and {{AP|Tauros}} before finally being defeated by his {{AP|Pikachu}}, but it was able to weaken it beforehand.

In ''[[AG170|Second Time's the Charm!]]'', Ash had a [[rematch]] with Anabel. Again, she chose Alakazam as her first Pokémon. It went head to head against Corphish once again, but this time, Alakazam was defeated by Corphish's {{m|Bubble Beam}} after Ash found a way to overcome Corphish's confusion.

Alakazam's known moves are {{m|Psychic}}, {{m|Psybeam}}, {{m|Focus Punch}}, and {{m|Recover}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Metagross
|type1=Steel
|type2=Psychic
|img=Anabel Metagross.png
|epnum=AG169
|epname=Talking a Good Game!
|vajp=Unshō Ishizuka
|vaen=Unshō Ishizuka
|desc={{p|Metagross}} was first seen during {{Ash}}'s first match against her, where it easily defeated {{AP|Pikachu}}, losing the match for Ash. During Ash's [[rematch]] against Anabel, Metagross easily defeated {{AP|Corphish}}, but the Iron Leg Pokémon later tied with {{AP|Tauros}} after its Meteor Mash collided with Tauros's {{m|Take Down}}.

Metagross's known moves are {{m|Psychic}}, {{m|Iron Defense}}, {{m|Meteor Mash}}, and {{m|Hyper Beam}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Espeon
|type1=Psychic
|img=Anabel Espeon.png
|epnum=AG170
|epname=Second Time's the Charm!
|vajp=Megumi Hayashibara
|vaen=Megumi Hayashibara
|desc={{p|Espeon}}, Anabel's favorite Pokémon, was seen during {{Ash}}'s [[rematch]] against her, where it battled {{AP|Pikachu}}. Even though Espeon initially managed to overwhelm Pikachu with its speed and power, one of Pikachu's {{m|Thunderbolt}}s turned the lights off, making it impossible for both Anabel and Espeon to see where the next attack was coming from. This cost some critical hits for Espeon, and Pikachu was finally able to defeat the Sun Pokémon with a {{m|Volt Tackle}}, winning the match for Ash and earning him the [[Symbol|Ability Symbol]].

It also reappeared in a flashback in ''[[DP128|A Pyramiding Rage!]].

Espeon's known moves are {{m|Quick Attack}}, {{m|Iron Tail}}, {{m|Zap Cannon}}, and {{m|Psychic}}.}}

===Voice actors===
{{vatable|color={{frontier color}}|bordercolor={{frontier color light}}
|ja=木村亜希子 ''[[Akiko Kimura]]''
|en=[[Hilary Thomas]]
|es_la=Rebeca Gómez
|es_eu=Sara Vivas
|fi=Elise Langenoja
|it=Daniela Fava
|pt_br=Gilmara Sanchez}}

==In the manga==
===Pokémon Adventures===
[[File:Anabel Adventures.png|thumb|270px|Anabel in Pokémon Adventures]]
====History====
====={{chap|Emerald}}=====
Anabel is one of the seven {{pkmn|Trainer}}s hired by [[Scott]] to be a [[Frontier Brain]] at the {{gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}. Anabel is first seen watching the Battle Frontier's opening ceremony. The ceremony is interrupted by {{adv|Emerald}}, who announces that he wishes to conquer the Battle Frontier. The press mistakenly report the incident as allowing an ordinary Trainer to take part in the Battle Frontier before it officially opens a week later. The Frontier Brains decide to use this assumption as free publicity and allow Emerald to challenge the Battle Frontier under the condition that he completes it before it officially opens.

Later, while Emerald is challenging the [[Battle Pyramid]], Noland is attacked by an unknown assailant and several rental Pokémon are stolen. After Noland is taken to a hospital, the other Frontier Brains begin to suspect Emerald as the culprit. They head to the Battle Pyramid to confront Emerald and find him after having defeated Brandon. When they ask him about what happened, Emerald reveals that he did not attack Noland and is actually after the Mythical Pokémon {{adv|Jirachi}}. The Frontier Brains find Emerald's explanation suspicious, but decide to follow him into [[Artisan Cave]], where Jirachi is currently located at. Upon arriving, everyone is attacked by a horde of wild {{p|Smeargle}} while Emerald continues inside to find Jirachi. After the Frontier Brains get past the Smeargle, they meet up with Emerald, who has managed to find Jirachi. Emerald attempts to capture Jirachi, but is attacked by [[Guile Hideout]], the actual culprit who attacked Noland. When Jirachi runs off, Emerald attempts to pursue it, only to be attacked by the rental Pokémon Guile had stolen. The other Frontier Brains attempt to avenge Noland by attacking Guile, but are swiftly defeated.
[[File:Anabel SM chapter.png|150px|thumb|Anabel in the fourteenth chapter]]
Anabel applauds Emerald for focusing on his mission instead of staying behind to fight and offers to fight Guile while he focuses on capturing Jirachi. Using Raikou's control over lightning, Anabel manages to trap Guile in a cage of electricity. Emerald attempts to use this chance to capture Jirachi, but Guile uses his sword to destroy the Poké Ball and breaks free from the cage. Jirachi takes this chance to flee, forcing Guile to escape as well to continue his pursuit of it. Injured from the battle, everyone decides to return to the Battle Frontier. When they meet up with Scott again, he reveals that he was aware of Guile and Emerald's true mission the entire time. Scott states that he withheld the information from the Frontier Brains to help them get stronger as they still would have lost even if they had known of Guile beforehand.

The next day, Anabel watches the tournament being hosted at the [[Battle Dome]], where Emerald is challenging to obtain his fifth Symbol. As Emerald battles Tucker in the finals, Scott asks Anabel to talk with him somewhere else. This Scott is revealed to be a disguised Guile, who puts Anabel under mind control. After this, Guile returns to the Battle Dome, where he manages to find and capture Jirachi. Guile uses the rental Pokémon to attack innocent bystanders and heads to the {{gdis|Battle Tower|III}} to make his wish. Emerald, Noland, {{adv|Ruby}}, and {{adv|Sapphire}} all head to the Battle Tower to stop Guile, but are forced to traverse the Battle Tower's seventy floors and challenge Anabel on the final floor. Emerald manages to get to Anabel first, but is defeated by the time everyone else arrives.

The stress of the mind control eventually causes Anabel to pass out, forcing Guile to use her as a hostage in order to force Noland to give him the Jirachi Report, which contains the secrets of how to make Jirachi grant his wish. When Noland is unsure about what to do, Guile attacks him and takes the report by force. Now knowing Jirachi's secret, Guile has Jirachi create a gigantic {{p|Kyogre}} made of seawater and uses it to flood the entire Battle Frontier. Anabel is taken to safety by {{p|Latios}} and later awakens to help the Frontier Brains fight off Guile's rental Pokémon while Emerald and the other Pokédex holders fight Guile. Eventually, Emerald and the Pokédex holders manage to defeat Guile and destroy the gigantic Kyogre monster. The day after, an injured Anabel and the other Frontier Brains congratulate Emerald for the hard work he put into saving everyone. Anabel then awards Emerald the Ability Symbol for his skills in traversing the Battle Tower.

====={{chap|Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire}}=====
Anabel and the other Hoenn Frontier Brains battle and defeat the Admins of Neo [[Team Magma]] and Neo [[Team Aqua]], who had interfered in the launch of a rocket that was made to stop the [[Grand Meteor Delta|meteoroid]] threatening to destroy the world. Once finished, Anabel is contacted by Emerald, who asks if any of the Frontier Brains had seen Sapphire in the area. When the Brains deny seeing Sapphire, Emerald thanks them and leaves. Later, Anabel and the other Hoenn Frontier Brains are called to [[Sootopolis City]] to assist in stopping the meteoroid.

====={{chap|Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon}}=====
It was revealed that Anabel had become a member of the [[International Police]]. She, along with {{adv|Looker}} first appear investigating [[Po Town]], where several [[Ultra Beasts]] had appeared before breaking out and wreaking havoc on [[Ula'ula Island]]. Shortly after arriving, Anabel and Looker meet with {{adv|Sun}} and {{adv|Moon}}, a pair of children who had previously faced the Ultra Beasts. While she questioned Sun and Moon about the beasts, Anabel had Looker go off to investigate the rampaging beasts to find information on them as well. After receiving the information, Anabel sent out her {{p|Mismagius}} to battle {{p|Blacephalon}}, another Ultra Beast that emerged from an [[Ultra Wormhole]].

Together with Sun, Anabel managed to stun Blacephalon long enough to throw a {{i|Poké Ball}} at it, but Blacephalon immediately breaks out, confirming that regular Poké Balls do not work on Ultra Beasts. Blacephalon retaliates by using {{m|Mind Blown}} on the group, forcing Anabel to get everyone out of the way. Anabel and the others are saved by {{p|Tapu Bulu}}, the [[Guardian deities|guardian deity]] of Ula'ula Island, who used a large gust of wind to blow both Blacephalon and its attack far away. As Sun and Moon feed a [[Mirage Berry]] to Tapu Bulu to befriend it, Anabel speculates that there must be a man hiding in Alola capable of making Poké Balls that are able to capture Ultra Beasts.

Later, Anabel, Sun, and Moon head towards [[Poni Island]]. Anabel revealed to Sun and Moon that {{p|Xurkitree}} and Blacephalon are also making their way to Poni. Due to Poni not having an [[Island Kahuna]], there would be no one capable enough of protecting the island from the two beasts. Sun, more fixated on delivering the next Mirage Berry to {{p|Tapu Fini}}, decided to head off and find someone who can help him search for it. After docking on Poni, Anabel and Moon arrived at [[Seafolk Village]], which had been evacuated due to the Ultra Beasts' attacks. Worried that some injured people may still be there, Anabel requested to Moon that she help heal any hurt civilians. As they walked through [[Poni Wilds]], Moon asked Anabel how she knew the names of the Ultra Beasts. Anabel then revealed that she knew because she is a Faller, a human who had passed through an Ultra Wormhole.

Later, Anabel and Moon traveled to [[Vast Poni Canyon]], where they witnessed [[Faba]] battling [[Plumeria]]. Anabel confronted Faba about the [[Aether Foundation]]'s involvement with the Ultra Beasts' appearance in Alola. Worried that his plans could be jeopardized, Faba has his {{tc|Aether Foundation Employee}}s battle against Anabel and Moon, hoping the distraction would give him the chance to escape. Anabel used her Pokémon to keep the Employees busy while she, Moon, and Plumeria followed Faba. As he approached the [[Poni Altar]], Faba revealed he was aware of his pursuers and proceeded to attack them while assisted by more Employees. During the battle, Moon was grabbed by {{p|Tapu Koko}} and taken to the Poni Altar.

Later, Anabel managed to defeat and capture Faba. After meeting with [[Gladion]], [[Lillie]], and [[Hapu]], the four traveled to the Altar, where they found that Sun and Moon managed to summon {{p|Solgaleo}} and {{p|Lunala}}, the [[Legendary Pokémon]] of the Alola region. After explaining what Solgaleo and Lunala are and their connection with {{p|Cosmog}}, Anabel received a call from Looker, who reported that a large number of Ultra Beasts emerged from Po Town and have made their way to Poni Island. Anabel teamed up with Moon, Gladion, and Hapu to fend off the attacking beasts. Later, a larger than usual wormhole opened at the Altar, which Anabel noted was caused by the {{p|Necrozma|Blinding One}}. A hand emerged from the wormhole and grabbed Solgaleo, taking control of its body. The possessed Solgaleo captured Sun with its tail and jumped into the wormhole while Moon and [[Nebby]] followed after it.

====Pokémon====
=====On hand=====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Mismagius
|type1=Ghost
|img=Anabel Mismagius Adventures.png
|epnum=PASM20
|epname=An Urgent Task and the Capture of an Ultra Beast
|desc={{p|Mismagius}} is Anabel's second known Pokémon. It was first used to battle a {{p|Blacephalon}} at [[Po Town]] alongside {{adv|Sun}}'s [[Cent]]. Together, they managed to stun it long enough for Anabel to attempt a capture, but the [[Ultra Beast]] broke out of the {{i|Poké Ball}} easily.

Mismagius's known moves are {{m|Magical Leaf}} and {{m|Phantom Force}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Salamence
|type1=Dragon
|type2=Flying
|img=Anabel Salamence Adventures.png
|epnum=PASM23
|epname=Battle in Vast Poni Canyon
|desc={{p|Salamence}} is Anabel's third known Pokémon. It was first seen keeping Anabel and {{adv|Moon}} in the air while they confronted [[Faba]] at [[Vast Poni Canyon]].

None of Salamence's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Alakazam
|type1=Psychic
|img=Anabel Alakazam Adventures.png
|epnum=PASM24
|epname=Play the Melody That Echoes in the Altar
|desc={{p|Alakazam}} is Anabel's fourth known Pokémon. It was first used to battle a group of {{tc|Aether Foundation Employee}}s at [[Vast Poni Canyon]].

None of Alakazam's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Snorlax
|type1=Normal
|img=Anabel Snorlax Adventures.png
|epnum=PASM24
|epname=Play the Melody That Echoes in the Altar
|desc={{p|Snorlax}} is Anabel's fifth known Pokémon. It was first used to battle a group of {{tc|Aether Foundation Employee}}s at [[Vast Poni Canyon]].

None of Snorlax's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Weavile
|type1=Dark
|type2=Ice
|img=Anabel Weavile Adventures.png
|epnum=PASM24
|epname=Play the Melody That Echoes in the Altar
|desc={{p|Weavile}} is Anabel's sixth known Pokémon. It was first used to battle a group of {{tc|Aether Foundation Employee}}s at [[Vast Poni Canyon]].

None of Weavile's moves are known.}}

=====Status unknown=====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Raikou
|type1=Electric
|img=Anabel Raikou Adventures.png
|epnum=PS117
|epname=Slugging It Out With Slugma
|desc={{main|Legendary beasts (Adventures)#Raikou|Raikou (Adventures)}}

Anabel caught this {{p|Raikou}} after it was released following the battle against the [[Masked Man]]. She is said to have captured this Legendary Pokémon during her trip somewhere in Johto. Raikou has been with her since then and she continues to rely on it for all of her battles. Because it carries a large thundercloud on its back, it both allows a handier usage of its trademark Thunder as well as strengthen it.}}

===Pokémon Battle Frontier===
[[File:Anabel CBF.png|100px|thumb|Anabel in Pokémon Battle Frontier]]
[[File:Anabel photographer CBF.png|thumb|left|100px|Anabel as a photographer]]
Anabel first appeared in ''[[CBF4|Introducing the Frontier Brains!]]'', disguised as a photographer. She took a picture of [[Enta's Vulpix]] and {{p|Feebas}}. She told Enta about the Frontier Brains after [[Rald]] was defeated by her, prompting him to challenge them in order to discover which one defeated Rald.

After Enta defeated his sixth Frontier Brain, [[Lucy]], he was told that the seventh one is none other than Anabel herself, much to his surprise. Enta's battle with Anabel ended up in a draw after a showdown between Ninetales and Entei.
{{-}}

====Pokémon====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Entei
|type1=Fire
|img=Anabel Entei CBF.png
|epnum=CBF6
|epname=Final Battle: Versus The Salon Maiden
|desc={{p|Entei}} was the first revealed Pokémon. It was the final Pokémon that went up against {{OBP|Enta|CBF}} after both sides were down to one Pokémon. It battled Ninetales and managed to dodge many of its attacks. In the end, despite putting up a great fight, it ended up defeating Ninetales and got knocked out in the process.

Entei's known moves are {{m|Double Team}} and {{m|Fire Blast}}{{tt|*|mentioned only}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Alakazam
|type1=Psychic
|img=Anabel Alakazam CBF.png
|epnum=CBF6
|epname=Final Battle: Versus The Salon Maiden
|desc={{p|Alakazam}} was the first opponent who battled Enta. It went up against {{p|Zangoose}} and won using its speed. Alakazam then went up against Milotic where it was taken out by Milotic's {{m|Hydro Pump}}.

None of Alakazam's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Snorlax
|type1=Normal
|img=Anabel Snorlax CBF.png
|epnum=CBF6
|epname=Final Battle: Versus The Salon Maiden
|desc={{p|Snorlax}} was the second opponent that battled Enta. Snorlax battled Milotic after Milotic defeated Alakazam. Due to Milotic's previous opponent, Snorlax was able to take it out with Body Slam. Snorlax then battled {{TP|Enta|Ninetales}} and was easily defeated by Ninetales's {{m|Hyper Beam}}.

Snorlax's only known move is {{m|Body Slam}}.}}

==Trivia==
* Despite being female, in Japanese, Anabel uses the typically masculine personal pronoun ボク ''boku''.
* Anabel is the only [[Frontier Brain]] whose title (in some languages) does not incorporate the second word of their facility's name. However, the Battle Salon is an actual room in a {{gdis|Battle Tower|III}} where Trainers can meet each other and team up to participate in [[Multi Battle]]s.
** In the anime episode wherein she made her debut, Anabel was mentioned to be the head of the Battle Tower's Battle Salon.
* In the anime, her {{p|Espeon}} knows {{m|Zap Cannon}}, a move [[Anime move errors|it could not learn in the games]] at the time of her anime appearance during [[Generation III]].
* Anabel's ability to sense the feelings of Pokémon is similar to that of {{an|N}} in the anime and [[Sheena]] from the [[M12|twelfth movie]].
* Anabel's [[Battle Tree]] battle music in {{pkmn|Sun and Moon}} and {{pkmn|Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon}} is a completely unaltered version of the Frontier Brain battle theme from Emerald.
* Anabel is 165 cm (5'5") tall in [[Generation VII]].

==Names==
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{frontier color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{frontier color}}"
|-
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Japanese
| リラ ''Lila''
| From ''lilas'' (French for {{wp|Syringa vulgaris|lilac}}) or ''lila'' (Spanish for lilac)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| English
| Anabel
| From ''ability''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| German
| Anabel
| From ''Anlage'' (asset)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Spanish
| Destra
| From ''destreza'' (skill)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| French
| Cathy
| From ''capacité'' (skill)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Italian
| Alberta
| From ''abilità'' (ability)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Korean
| 리라 ''Lila''
| Transcription of her Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and Mainland China}})
| 莉拉 ''Lìlā''
| rowspan="2" | Transcription of her Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Cantonese|Hong Kong}})
| 莉拉 ''Leihlāai''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Vietnamese
| Lila
| Transcription of her Japanese name.
|}

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|color={{frontier color}}
|corecolor={{frontier color light}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|name=Anabel
|jname=リラ
|tmname=Lila
|image=Anabel SM concept art.png
|size=200px
|caption=Concept art from Generation VII
|gender=Female
|colors=yes
|eyes=Lilac
|hair=Lilac
|hometown=Unknown
|region=[[Hoenn]]{{pkmn|games|*}}/[[Kanto]][[Pokémon anime|*]]
|relatives=Unknown
|trainer=yes
|trainerclass={{tc|Tower Tycoon|Salon Maiden}}{{sup/3|E}} [[Frontier Brain|(Frontier Brain)]] [[Pokémon Trainer]]{{sup/7|SMUSUM}}
|game=yes
|generation={{gen|III}}, {{gen|VII}}
|games={{v2|Emerald}}, {{pkmn|Sun and Moon}}, {{pkmn|Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon}}
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|facility={{gdis|Battle Tower|III}}
|symbol=Ability Symbol
|specialist=yes
|type={{t|Psychic}} types{{tt|*|Anime only}}
|anime=yes
|epnum=AG169
|epname=Talking a Good Game
|enva=[[Hilary Thomas]]
|java=[[Akiko Kimura]]
}}

'''Anabel''' (Japanese: '''リラ''' ''Lila'') is an [[International Police]] officer and [[Pokémon Trainer]] who was introduced as a [[Frontier Brain]] in charge of running the {{gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}'s {{gdis|Battle Tower|III}} under the title of '''{{tc|Tower Tycoon|Salon Maiden}}''' (Japanese: '''タワータイクーン''' ''Tower Tycoon''). In [[Generation VII]], she works with [[Looker]].

==In the games==
===Generation III===
Anabel is described as a "mysterious [[Trainer]]" by a resident of the Battle Frontier. She first appears in the {{gdis|Battle Tower|III}} as the 35th opponent the {{player}} faces, unimpressed by the rumors she has heard about their accomplishments. She battles the player with a team meant to size them up, and awards the [[Symbol|Ability Symbol]] onto the {{DL|Trainer Card (game)|Frontier Pass}} upon defeat. Now understanding the player's ability, she urges them to continue their winning streak and reach her again.

Later, Anabel appears again at the 70th consecutive match. This time, she is happy that the player won consecutive matches to see her, and that she can battle flat-out without holding back at all. After being defeated, she thanks the player for giving her a battle more enjoyable than any she ever had before, and confers the Gold Symbol upon them.

She is one of the two known {{tc|Tower Tycoon}}s, the other one being [[Palmer]] of the Battle Tower in the [[Sinnoh]] region.

===Generation VII===
{{Spoilers}}
Ten years prior to the events of {{pkmn|Sun and Moon}}, Anabel was found unconscious on a [[Poni Island]] beach by [[Looker]] and [[Nanu]], who had just completed a mission for the [[International Police]]. She had lost most of her memories, only able to tell them her name, that she came from Hoenn, that she protected a tower there, and that she was a powerful Trainer. After being placed in the care of the International Police, they detected incredible amounts of [[Ultra Wormhole]] energy coming from her, implying that she was a Faller who was lost in a wormhole for a significant time. Anabel has never been informed of this, however.

Anabel eventually joined the International Police herself and quickly ascended the ranks, until she ended up as Looker's superior in the UB Task Force, a secret division of the International Police that deals with [[Ultra Beast]]s. After the player becomes {{pkmn|Champion}} in Pokémon Sun and Moon, they will meet Anabel and Looker when they visit the {{rt|8|Alola}} motel on [[Akala Island]].

When the player meets Anabel and Looker, the pair recruit the player to the UB Task Force. Although one of the task force's duties is to either safeguard or destroy the Ultra Beasts, neither Anabel nor Looker wishes to harm them, so they need the help of the new Champion of Alola. Anabel will also battle the player to ensure that they are up to the job.

The group proceeds to track down and catch Ultra Beasts across all four of Alola's islands. After the player catches the first, Nihilego, Anabel arranges for the player to keep the Ultra Beasts, rather than delivering them to the International Police where they would end up as research subjects. During each mission, Anabel's job is to protect nearby populated areas with the assistance of her Pokémon. As the missions continue, however, Anabel starts to show signs of fatigue. Apparently, the Ultra Beasts are being drawn to her strongly as a Faller and becoming extremely aggressive toward her, which is only exacerbated when there are multiple of them that can assail her simultaneously. In the last mission, Looker finally misdirects her away from the action so that she can recover her strength.

After all of the Ultra Beasts have been caught, the International Police HQ grants Anabel and Looker paid leave until they receive their next orders. Anabel plans to go meet with Nanu again and then spend her time sightseeing around Alola.

Anabel can later be encountered again as a Trainer in the [[Battle Tree]], primarily using Pokémon from her Emerald roster.

In {{pkmn|Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon}}, Anabel makes a cameo appearance with Looker in [[Poni Plains]]. The two block the way to [[Poni Coast]] until the UB incident at [[Poni Grove]] is resolved, at which point Anabel leaves to go to the Battle Tree for training. It is mentioned that in these games, Anabel and Looker are on vacation in Alola instead of being there for a mission.

===Pokémon===
===={{game|Emerald}}====
=====Silver Symbol challenge=====
{{Party/Single
|color={{frontier color}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|headcolor={{frontier color light}}
|sprite=Spr E Anabel.png
|prize=15{{color2|000|Battle Point|BP}}
|class=Salon Maiden
|classlink=Tower Tycoon (Trainer class)
|name=Anabel
|game=E
|location=Battle Tower (Generation III)
|locationname=Battle Tower
|pokemon=3}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=065
|pokemon=Alakazam
|ability=Synchronize|ability2=Inner Focus
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|gender=both
|type1=Psychic
|held=BrightPowder
|move1=Ice Punch|move1type=Ice
|move2=ThunderPunch|move2type=Electric
|move3=Fire Punch|move3type=Fire
|move4=Disable|move4type=Normal}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=244
|pokemon=Entei
|ability=Pressure
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|type1=Fire
|held=Lum Berry
|move1=Fire Blast|move1type=Fire
|move2=Calm Mind|move2type=Psychic
|move3=Return|move3type=Normal
|move4=Roar|move4type=Normal}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=143
|pokemon=Snorlax
|ability=Immunity|ability2=Thick Fat
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|gender=both
|type1=Normal
|held=Quick Claw
|move1=Body Slam|move1type=Normal
|move2=Belly Drum|move2type=Normal
|move3=Yawn|move3type=Normal
|move4=Shadow Ball|move4type=Ghost}}
{{Party/Footer}}

=====Gold Symbol challenge=====
{{Party/Single
|color={{frontier color}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|headcolor={{frontier color light}}
|sprite=Spr E Anabel.png
|prize=20{{color2|000|Battle Point|BP}}
|class=Salon Maiden
|classlink=Tower Tycoon (Trainer class)
|name=Anabel
|game=E
|location=Battle Tower (Generation III)
|locationname=Battle Tower
|pokemon=3}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=243
|pokemon=Raikou
|ability=Pressure
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|type1=Electric
|held=Lum Berry
|move1=Thunderbolt|move1type=Electric
|move2=Calm Mind|move2type=Psychic
|move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic
|move4=Rest|move4type=Psychic}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=381
|pokemon=Latios
|gender=male
|ability=Levitate
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|type1=Dragon|type2=Psychic
|held=BrightPowder
|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic
|move2=Dragon Claw|move2type=Dragon
|move3=Calm Mind|move3type=Psychic
|move4=Recover|move4type=Normal}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=143
|pokemon=Snorlax
|ability=Immunity|ability2=Thick Fat
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|gender=both
|type1=Normal
|held=Chesto Berry
|move1=Curse|move1type=???
|move2=Return|move2type=Normal
|move3=Rest|move3type=Psychic
|move4=Shadow Ball|move4type=Ghost}}
{{Party/Footer}}

===={{pkmn|Sun and Moon|Pokémon Sun, Moon}}, {{pkmn|Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon}}====
Anabel's Pokémon are kept in [[Ultra Ball]]s.

=====First battle{{sup/7|SM}}=====
{{Party/Single
|color={{frontier color}}
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|headcolor={{frontier color light}}
|sprite=VSAnabel.png
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|prize={{pdollar}}13,420
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|classlink=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Anabel
|game=SM
|location=Alola Route 8
|locationname=Route 8
|pokemon=5}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=065
|pokemon=Alakazam
|gender=male
|level=61
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Inner Focus
|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Special
|move2=Focus Blast|move2type=Fighting|move2cat=Special
|move3=Psyshock|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Special
|move4=Disable|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Status}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=461
|pokemon=Weavile
|gender=female
|level=61
|type1=Dark|type2=Ice
|ability=Pressure
|move1=Night Slash|move1type=Dark|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical
|move3=X-Scissor|move3type=Bug|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Brick Break|move4type=Fighting|move4cat=Physical}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=429
|pokemon=Mismagius
|gender=female
|level=61
|type1=Ghost
|ability=Levitate
|move1=Shadow Ball|move1type=Ghost|move1cat=Special
|move2=Dazzling Gleam|move2type=Fairy|move2cat=Special
|move3=Energy Ball|move3type=Grass|move3cat=Special
|move4=Thunderbolt|move4type=Electric|move4cat=Special}}
{{Party/Div|color={{frontier color}}}}
|style="margin:auto"|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=373
|pokemon=Salamence
|gender=male
|level=61
|type1=Dragon|type2=Flying
|ability=Intimidate
|move1=Dragon Claw|move1type=Dragon|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Zen Headbutt|move2type=Psychic|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Fire Fang|move3type=Fire|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Thunder Fang|move4type=Electric|move4cat=Physical}}
|style="margin:auto"|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=143
|pokemon=Snorlax
|gender=male
|level=61
|type1=Normal
|ability=Immunity
|move1=Body Slam|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Crunch|move2type=Dark|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Heavy Slam|move3type=Steel|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Yawn|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Status}}
{{Party/Footer}}

=====Battle Tree=====
Anabel uses three of these Pokémon in [[Pokémon battle|Single Battles]], four in [[Double Battle]]s, and two in [[Multi Battle]]s.

{{Party/Single
|color={{frontier color}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|headcolor={{frontier color light}}
|sprite=VSAnabel.png
|size=150px
|prize=2-7{{color2|000|Battle Point|BP}}
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|classlink=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Anabel
|game=SMUSUM
|location=Battle Tree
|pokemon=4}}
|
{{lop/facility/head|{{frontier color light}}|{{frontier color}}|{{frontier color}}}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|065|Alakazam|Alakazite|Psychic|Psychic|Focus Blast|Fighting|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Grass Knot|Grass|Timid||||252||252}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|448|Lucario|Lucarionite|Close Combat|Fighting|Rock Slide|Rock|Blaze Kick|Fire|Bullet Punch|Steel|Jolly||252||||252}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|143|Snorlax|Life Orb|Double-Edge|Normal|Earthquake|Ground|Crunch|Dark|Protect|Normal|Adamant||252|252|||}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|065|Alakazam|Choice Specs|Psychic|Psychic|Focus Blast|Fighting|Dazzling Gleam|Fairy|Trick|Psychic|Timid||||252||252}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|448|Lucario|Weakness Policy|Aura Sphere|Fighting|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Stone Edge|Rock|Extreme Speed|Normal|Serious||170||170||170}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|143|Snorlax|Assault Vest|Body Slam|Normal|Fissure|Ground|Earthquake|Ground|Crunch|Dark|Careful|252||||252|}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|243|Raikou|Shuca Berry|Thunderbolt|Electric|Volt Switch|Electric|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Extrasensory|Psychic|Timid||||252||252}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|244|Entei|Focus Sash|Overheat|Fire|Flame Charge|Fire|Fire Fang|Fire|Stone Edge|Rock|Lonely||252||||252}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|381|Latios|Lax Incense|Calm Mind|Psychic|Luster Purge|Psychic|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Recover|Normal|Bold|252||252|||}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|243|Raikou|Electrium Z|Charge Beam|Electric|Thunder Wave|Electric|Calm Mind|Psychic|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Timid|||252|||252}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|244|Entei|Chesto Berry|Calm Mind|Psychic|Will-O-Wisp|Fire|Flamethrower|Fire|Rest|Psychic|Bold|170||170||170|}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|381|Latios|White Herb|Draco Meteor|Dragon|Thunderbolt|Electric|Psychic|Psychic|Protect|Normal|Timid||||252||252}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|243|Raikou|Electrium Z|Thunderbolt|Electric|Volt Switch|Electric|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Protect|Normal|Timid||||252||252}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|244|Entei|Choice Scarf|Eruption|Fire|Fire Blast|Fire|Extrasensory|Psychic|Solar Beam|Grass|Timid||||252||252}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|381|Latios|Choice Specs|Draco Meteor|Dragon|Thunder|Electric|Psychic|Psychic|Energy Ball|Grass|Timid||||252||252}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|243|Raikou|Air Balloon|Thunder|Electric|Discharge|Electric|Reflect|Psychic|Extrasensory|Psychic|Timid||||252||252}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|244|Entei|Life Orb|Sacred Fire|Fire|Bulldoze|Ground|Stone Edge|Rock|Protect|Normal|Adamant|252|252||||}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|381|Latios|Latiosite|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Earthquake|Ground|Dragon Dance|Dragon|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Adamant||252||||252}}
|}
{{Party/Footer}}

===Quotes===
{{main|Anabel/Quotes}}

==Artwork==
{| style="margin:auto; text-align:center; font-size: 80%; {{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background: #{{frontier color}};"
|-
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background: #{{frontier color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Emerald Salon Maiden Anabel.png|150px]]
|-
| Official artwork from {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Pokémon Emerald}}
|}

===Sprites===
{| style="margin:auto; text-align:center; {{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background: #{{frontier color}}; font-size:80%"
|-
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background: #{{frontier color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Spr E Anabel.png]]
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background: #{{frontier color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Spr SM Anabel.png|100px]]
|style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background: #{{frontier color light}}; width:150px"| [[File:VSAnabel.png|150px]]
|-
| Sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
| In-battle model from {{color2|000|Pokémon Sun and Moon|Sun, Moon}}, {{color2|000|Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon}}
| VS model from {{color2|000|Pokémon Sun and Moon|Sun, Moon}}, {{color2|000|Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon}}
|-
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background: #{{frontier color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Anabel OD.png]]
|colspan=2 style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background: #{{frontier color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Anabel SM OD.png|100px]]
|-
| Overworld sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
| colspan=2|Overworld model from {{color2|000|Pokémon Sun and Moon|Sun, Moon}}, {{color2|000|Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon}}
|}

==In the anime==
[[File:Anabel anime.png|thumb|250px|Anabel in the {{pkmn|anime}}]]
Anabel debuted in ''[[AG169|Talking a Good Game!]]''. {{Ash}} and {{AP|Pikachu}} met her when they were chased by an angry {{p|Beedrill}}. Anabel quickly calmed Beedrill down after speaking to it, much to Ash's surprise. The pair soon came across a rampaging {{p|Gyarados}}, and Anabel once again showed off her empathy abilities to settled it down. {{TRT}} soon ambushed the duo in an attempt to steal Pikachu, but it soon turned into a {{pkmn|battle}}, which Anabel won after having her {{p|Alakazam}} {{status|Confusion|confuse}} Team Rocket's Pokémon. {{an|May}}, [[Max]], and {{an|Brock}} later caught up with Anabel and Ash, and Anabel escorted everyone to her home to get changed out of their wet clothes. There, they learned that Anabel was actually a girl.

The group then quickly rushed off to the {{OBP|Battle Tower|Generation III}}, but were shocked to learn that Anabel was also the Salon Maiden, who Ash was supposed to challenge for his next [[Symbol]]. Ash lost his first match to Anabel after her powerful Alakazam managed to defeat his {{AP|Corphish}} and {{AP|Tauros}}, consecutively. Pikachu, however, was able to defeat Alakazam in the next round. Anabel then sent out her Metagross, and it knocked Pikachu out with a {{m|Hyper Beam}}.

Anabel reappeared in ''[[AG170|Second Time's the Charm!]]''. Ash once again disturbed a group of Beedrill as he trained with his Pokemon. Tauros was stung and knocked its Trainer and Anabel into a nearby lake, but she quickly shrugged off the incident. While lunch was ruined because of Team Rocket, Anabel tried to teach Ash and May about her psychic powers, but to no avail.

Ash later had his [[rematch]] against Anabel. Corphish was able to defeat Alakazam after Ash listened to it and quickly returned it to its {{i|Poké Ball}} before sending Corphish back out again to overcome its confusion. Corphish lost in the next round, and after an exchange of strengths between Tauros and Metagross, the battle ended in a draw. In the final round, Anabel's {{p|Espeon}} was able to shadow Pikachu's [[move]]s and overwhelm his {{m|Thunderbolt}} with a more powerful {{m|Zap Cannon}}. However, Pikachu caused the facility to have a power outage and used the darkness to strike Espeon. Pikachu concluded the match with a {{m|Volt Tackle}}, earning Ash the Ability Symbol. As they said goodbye to one another, Anabel was revealed to have a crush on Ash.

She reappeared during a flashback in ''[[DP128|A Pyramiding Rage!]]''.

===Character===
Anabel has the empathetic ability to sense the emotions of living beings and communicate with them, ever since she was little. She also shares a particularly strong bond with her Pokémon, and is seemingly able to command them telepathically. Without the vocal commands as a cue, {{Ash}} initially struggled to compete against Anabel.

Anabel uses her Psychic Pokémon's attacks to either {{status|Confusion|confuse}} her opponent's Pokémon or control oncoming attacks. Her Pokémon also know some [[physical move]]s like {{m|Meteor Mash}}, making them equally effective in direct confrontations.

===Pokémon===
This listing is of Anabel's known Pokémon in the {{pkmn|anime}}:

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Alakazam
|type1=Psychic
|img=Anabel Alakazam.png
|epnum=AG169
|epname=Talking a Good Game!
|vajp=Kenta Miyake
|vaen=Maddie Blaustein
|desc=Anabel first called on {{p|Alakazam}} in ''[[AG169|Talking a Good Game!]]'' to help her and {{Ash}} when they were attacked by {{TRT}}. Alakazam was able to defeat them with its powerful Psychic attack. Ash then realized that Anabel was a [[Frontier Brain]] and that he would have to battle Alakazam. Ash chose {{AP|Corphish}} for that match. In the end, Alakazam easily defeated {{p|Corphish}} and {{AP|Tauros}} before finally being defeated by his {{AP|Pikachu}}, but it was able to weaken it beforehand.

In ''[[AG170|Second Time's the Charm!]]'', Ash had a [[rematch]] with Anabel. Again, she chose Alakazam as her first Pokémon. It went head to head against Corphish once again, but this time, Alakazam was defeated by Corphish's {{m|Bubble Beam}} after Ash found a way to overcome Corphish's confusion.

Alakazam's known moves are {{m|Psychic}}, {{m|Psybeam}}, {{m|Focus Punch}}, and {{m|Recover}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Metagross
|type1=Steel
|type2=Psychic
|img=Anabel Metagross.png
|epnum=AG169
|epname=Talking a Good Game!
|vajp=Unshō Ishizuka
|vaen=Unshō Ishizuka
|desc={{p|Metagross}} was first seen during {{Ash}}'s first match against her, where it easily defeated {{AP|Pikachu}}, losing the match for Ash. During Ash's [[rematch]] against Anabel, Metagross easily defeated {{AP|Corphish}}, but the Iron Leg Pokémon later tied with {{AP|Tauros}} after its Meteor Mash collided with Tauros's {{m|Take Down}}.

Metagross's known moves are {{m|Psychic}}, {{m|Iron Defense}}, {{m|Meteor Mash}}, and {{m|Hyper Beam}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Espeon
|type1=Psychic
|img=Anabel Espeon.png
|epnum=AG170
|epname=Second Time's the Charm!
|vajp=Megumi Hayashibara
|vaen=Megumi Hayashibara
|desc={{p|Espeon}}, Anabel's favorite Pokémon, was seen during {{Ash}}'s [[rematch]] against her, where it battled {{AP|Pikachu}}. Even though Espeon initially managed to overwhelm Pikachu with its speed and power, one of Pikachu's {{m|Thunderbolt}}s turned the lights off, making it impossible for both Anabel and Espeon to see where the next attack was coming from. This cost some critical hits for Espeon, and Pikachu was finally able to defeat the Sun Pokémon with a {{m|Volt Tackle}}, winning the match for Ash and earning him the [[Symbol|Ability Symbol]].

It also reappeared in a flashback in ''[[DP128|A Pyramiding Rage!]].

Espeon's known moves are {{m|Quick Attack}}, {{m|Iron Tail}}, {{m|Zap Cannon}}, and {{m|Psychic}}.}}

===Voice actors===
{{vatable|color={{frontier color}}|bordercolor={{frontier color light}}
|ja=木村亜希子 ''[[Akiko Kimura]]''
|en=[[Hilary Thomas]]
|es_la=Rebeca Gómez
|es_eu=Sara Vivas
|fi=Elise Langenoja
|it=Daniela Fava
|pt_br=Gilmara Sanchez}}

==In the manga==
===Pokémon Adventures===
[[File:Anabel Adventures.png|thumb|270px|Anabel in Pokémon Adventures]]
====History====
====={{chap|Emerald}}=====
Anabel is one of the seven {{pkmn|Trainer}}s hired by [[Scott]] to be a [[Frontier Brain]] at the {{gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}. Anabel is first seen watching the Battle Frontier's opening ceremony. The ceremony is interrupted by {{adv|Emerald}}, who announces that he wishes to conquer the Battle Frontier. The press mistakenly report the incident as allowing an ordinary Trainer to take part in the Battle Frontier before it officially opens a week later. The Frontier Brains decide to use this assumption as free publicity and allow Emerald to challenge the Battle Frontier under the condition that he completes it before it officially opens.

Later, while Emerald is challenging the [[Battle Pyramid]], Noland is attacked by an unknown assailant and several rental Pokémon are stolen. After Noland is taken to a hospital, the other Frontier Brains begin to suspect Emerald as the culprit. They head to the Battle Pyramid to confront Emerald and find him after having defeated Brandon. When they ask him about what happened, Emerald reveals that he did not attack Noland and is actually after the Mythical Pokémon {{adv|Jirachi}}. The Frontier Brains find Emerald's explanation suspicious, but decide to follow him into [[Artisan Cave]], where Jirachi is currently located at. Upon arriving, everyone is attacked by a horde of wild {{p|Smeargle}} while Emerald continues inside to find Jirachi. After the Frontier Brains get past the Smeargle, they meet up with Emerald, who has managed to find Jirachi. Emerald attempts to capture Jirachi, but is attacked by [[Guile Hideout]], the actual culprit who attacked Noland. When Jirachi runs off, Emerald attempts to pursue it, only to be attacked by the rental Pokémon Guile had stolen. The other Frontier Brains attempt to avenge Noland by attacking Guile, but are swiftly defeated.
[[File:Anabel SM chapter.png|150px|thumb|Anabel in the fourteenth chapter]]
Anabel applauds Emerald for focusing on his mission instead of staying behind to fight and offers to fight Guile while he focuses on capturing Jirachi. Using Raikou's control over lightning, Anabel manages to trap Guile in a cage of electricity. Emerald attempts to use this chance to capture Jirachi, but Guile uses his sword to destroy the Poké Ball and breaks free from the cage. Jirachi takes this chance to flee, forcing Guile to escape as well to continue his pursuit of it. Injured from the battle, everyone decides to return to the Battle Frontier. When they meet up with Scott again, he reveals that he was aware of Guile and Emerald's true mission the entire time. Scott states that he withheld the information from the Frontier Brains to help them get stronger as they still would have lost even if they had known of Guile beforehand.

The next day, Anabel watches the tournament being hosted at the [[Battle Dome]], where Emerald is challenging to obtain his fifth Symbol. As Emerald battles Tucker in the finals, Scott asks Anabel to talk with him somewhere else. This Scott is revealed to be a disguised Guile, who puts Anabel under mind control. After this, Guile returns to the Battle Dome, where he manages to find and capture Jirachi. Guile uses the rental Pokémon to attack innocent bystanders and heads to the {{gdis|Battle Tower|III}} to make his wish. Emerald, Noland, {{adv|Ruby}}, and {{adv|Sapphire}} all head to the Battle Tower to stop Guile, but are forced to traverse the Battle Tower's seventy floors and challenge Anabel on the final floor. Emerald manages to get to Anabel first, but is defeated by the time everyone else arrives.

The stress of the mind control eventually causes Anabel to pass out, forcing Guile to use her as a hostage in order to force Noland to give him the Jirachi Report, which contains the secrets of how to make Jirachi grant his wish. When Noland is unsure about what to do, Guile attacks him and takes the report by force. Now knowing Jirachi's secret, Guile has Jirachi create a gigantic {{p|Kyogre}} made of seawater and uses it to flood the entire Battle Frontier. Anabel is taken to safety by {{p|Latios}} and later awakens to help the Frontier Brains fight off Guile's rental Pokémon while Emerald and the other Pokédex holders fight Guile. Eventually, Emerald and the Pokédex holders manage to defeat Guile and destroy the gigantic Kyogre monster. The day after, an injured Anabel and the other Frontier Brains congratulate Emerald for the hard work he put into saving everyone. Anabel then awards Emerald the Ability Symbol for his skills in traversing the Battle Tower.

====={{chap|Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire}}=====
Anabel and the other Hoenn Frontier Brains battle and defeat the Admins of Neo [[Team Magma]] and Neo [[Team Aqua]], who had interfered in the launch of a rocket that was made to stop the [[Grand Meteor Delta|meteoroid]] threatening to destroy the world. Once finished, Anabel is contacted by Emerald, who asks if any of the Frontier Brains had seen Sapphire in the area. When the Brains deny seeing Sapphire, Emerald thanks them and leaves. Later, Anabel and the other Hoenn Frontier Brains are called to [[Sootopolis City]] to assist in stopping the meteoroid.

====={{chap|Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon}}=====
It was revealed that Anabel had become a member of the [[International Police]]. She, along with {{adv|Looker}} first appear investigating [[Po Town]], where several [[Ultra Beasts]] had appeared before breaking out and wreaking havoc on [[Ula'ula Island]]. Shortly after arriving, Anabel and Looker meet with {{adv|Sun}} and {{adv|Moon}}, a pair of children who had previously faced the Ultra Beasts. While she questioned Sun and Moon about the beasts, Anabel had Looker go off to investigate the rampaging beasts to find information on them as well. After receiving the information, Anabel sent out her {{p|Mismagius}} to battle {{p|Blacephalon}}, another Ultra Beast that emerged from an [[Ultra Wormhole]].

Together with Sun, Anabel managed to stun Blacephalon long enough to throw a {{i|Poké Ball}} at it, but Blacephalon immediately breaks out, confirming that regular Poké Balls do not work on Ultra Beasts. Blacephalon retaliates by using {{m|Mind Blown}} on the group, forcing Anabel to get everyone out of the way. Anabel and the others are saved by {{p|Tapu Bulu}}, the [[Guardian deities|guardian deity]] of Ula'ula Island, who used a large gust of wind to blow both Blacephalon and its attack far away. As Sun and Moon feed a [[Mirage Berry]] to Tapu Bulu to befriend it, Anabel speculates that there must be a man hiding in Alola capable of making Poké Balls that are able to capture Ultra Beasts.

Later, Anabel, Sun, and Moon head towards [[Poni Island]]. Anabel revealed to Sun and Moon that {{p|Xurkitree}} and Blacephalon are also making their way to Poni. Due to Poni not having an [[Island Kahuna]], there would be no one capable enough of protecting the island from the two beasts. Sun, more fixated on delivering the next Mirage Berry to {{p|Tapu Fini}}, decided to head off and find someone who can help him search for it. After docking on Poni, Anabel and Moon arrived at [[Seafolk Village]], which had been evacuated due to the Ultra Beasts' attacks. Worried that some injured people may still be there, Anabel requested to Moon that she help heal any hurt civilians. As they walked through [[Poni Wilds]], Moon asked Anabel how she knew the names of the Ultra Beasts. Anabel then revealed that she knew because she is a Faller, a human who had passed through an Ultra Wormhole.

Later, Anabel and Moon traveled to [[Vast Poni Canyon]], where they witnessed [[Faba]] battling [[Plumeria]]. Anabel confronted Faba about the [[Aether Foundation]]'s involvement with the Ultra Beasts' appearance in Alola. Worried that his plans could be jeopardized, Faba has his {{tc|Aether Foundation Employee}}s battle against Anabel and Moon, hoping the distraction would give him the chance to escape. Anabel used her Pokémon to keep the Employees busy while she, Moon, and Plumeria followed Faba. As he approached the [[Poni Altar]], Faba revealed he was aware of his pursuers and proceeded to attack them while assisted by more Employees. During the battle, Moon was grabbed by {{p|Tapu Koko}} and taken to the Poni Altar.

Later, Anabel managed to defeat and capture Faba. After meeting with [[Gladion]], [[Lillie]], and [[Hapu]], the four traveled to the Altar, where they found that Sun and Moon managed to summon {{p|Solgaleo}} and {{p|Lunala}}, the [[Legendary Pokémon]] of the Alola region. After explaining what Solgaleo and Lunala are and their connection with {{p|Cosmog}}, Anabel received a call from Looker, who reported that a large number of Ultra Beasts emerged from Po Town and have made their way to Poni Island. Anabel teamed up with Moon, Gladion, and Hapu to fend off the attacking beasts. Later, a larger than usual wormhole opened at the Altar, which Anabel noted was caused by the {{p|Necrozma|Blinding One}}. A hand emerged from the wormhole and grabbed Solgaleo, taking control of its body. The possessed Solgaleo captured Sun with its tail and jumped into the wormhole while Moon and [[Nebby]] followed after it.

====Pokémon====
=====On hand=====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Mismagius
|type1=Ghost
|img=Anabel Mismagius Adventures.png
|epnum=PASM20
|epname=An Urgent Task and the Capture of an Ultra Beast
|desc={{p|Mismagius}} is Anabel's second known Pokémon. It was first used to battle a {{p|Blacephalon}} at [[Po Town]] alongside {{adv|Sun}}'s [[Cent]]. Together, they managed to stun it long enough for Anabel to attempt a capture, but the [[Ultra Beast]] broke out of the {{i|Poké Ball}} easily.

Mismagius's known moves are {{m|Magical Leaf}} and {{m|Phantom Force}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Salamence
|type1=Dragon
|type2=Flying
|img=Anabel Salamence Adventures.png
|epnum=PASM23
|epname=Battle in Vast Poni Canyon
|desc={{p|Salamence}} is Anabel's third known Pokémon. It was first seen keeping Anabel and {{adv|Moon}} in the air while they confronted [[Faba]] at [[Vast Poni Canyon]].

None of Salamence's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Alakazam
|type1=Psychic
|img=Anabel Alakazam Adventures.png
|epnum=PASM24
|epname=Play the Melody That Echoes in the Altar
|desc={{p|Alakazam}} is Anabel's fourth known Pokémon. It was first used to battle a group of {{tc|Aether Foundation Employee}}s at [[Vast Poni Canyon]].

None of Alakazam's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Snorlax
|type1=Normal
|img=Anabel Snorlax Adventures.png
|epnum=PASM24
|epname=Play the Melody That Echoes in the Altar
|desc={{p|Snorlax}} is Anabel's fifth known Pokémon. It was first used to battle a group of {{tc|Aether Foundation Employee}}s at [[Vast Poni Canyon]].

None of Snorlax's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Weavile
|type1=Dark
|type2=Ice
|img=Anabel Weavile Adventures.png
|epnum=PASM24
|epname=Play the Melody That Echoes in the Altar
|desc={{p|Weavile}} is Anabel's sixth known Pokémon. It was first used to battle a group of {{tc|Aether Foundation Employee}}s at [[Vast Poni Canyon]].

None of Weavile's moves are known.}}

=====Status unknown=====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Raikou
|type1=Electric
|img=Anabel Raikou Adventures.png
|epnum=PS117
|epname=Slugging It Out With Slugma
|desc={{main|Legendary beasts (Adventures)#Raikou|Raikou (Adventures)}}

Anabel caught this {{p|Raikou}} after it was released following the battle against the [[Masked Man]]. She is said to have captured this Legendary Pokémon during her trip somewhere in Johto. Raikou has been with her since then and she continues to rely on it for all of her battles. Because it carries a large thundercloud on its back, it both allows a handier usage of its trademark Thunder as well as strengthen it.}}

===Pokémon Battle Frontier===
[[File:Anabel CBF.png|100px|thumb|Anabel in Pokémon Battle Frontier]]
[[File:Anabel photographer CBF.png|thumb|left|100px|Anabel as a photographer]]
Anabel first appeared in ''[[CBF4|Introducing the Frontier Brains!]]'', disguised as a photographer. She took a picture of [[Enta's Vulpix]] and {{p|Feebas}}. She told Enta about the Frontier Brains after [[Rald]] was defeated by her, prompting him to challenge them in order to discover which one defeated Rald.

After Enta defeated his sixth Frontier Brain, [[Lucy]], he was told that the seventh one is none other than Anabel herself, much to his surprise. Enta's battle with Anabel ended up in a draw after a showdown between Ninetales and Entei.
{{-}}

====Pokémon====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Entei
|type1=Fire
|img=Anabel Entei CBF.png
|epnum=CBF6
|epname=Final Battle: Versus The Salon Maiden
|desc={{p|Entei}} was the first revealed Pokémon. It was the final Pokémon that went up against {{OBP|Enta|CBF}} after both sides were down to one Pokémon. It battled Ninetales and managed to dodge many of its attacks. In the end, despite putting up a great fight, it ended up defeating Ninetales and got knocked out in the process.

Entei's known moves are {{m|Double Team}} and {{m|Fire Blast}}{{tt|*|mentioned only}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Alakazam
|type1=Psychic
|img=Anabel Alakazam CBF.png
|epnum=CBF6
|epname=Final Battle: Versus The Salon Maiden
|desc={{p|Alakazam}} was the first opponent who battled Enta. It went up against {{p|Zangoose}} and won using its speed. Alakazam then went up against Milotic where it was taken out by Milotic's {{m|Hydro Pump}}.

None of Alakazam's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Snorlax
|type1=Normal
|img=Anabel Snorlax CBF.png
|epnum=CBF6
|epname=Final Battle: Versus The Salon Maiden
|desc={{p|Snorlax}} was the second opponent that battled Enta. Snorlax battled Milotic after Milotic defeated Alakazam. Due to Milotic's previous opponent, Snorlax was able to take it out with Body Slam. Snorlax then battled {{TP|Enta|Ninetales}} and was easily defeated by Ninetales's {{m|Hyper Beam}}.

Snorlax's only known move is {{m|Body Slam}}.}}

==Trivia==
* Despite being female, in Japanese, Anabel uses the typically masculine personal pronoun ボク ''boku''.
* Anabel is the only [[Frontier Brain]] whose title (in some languages) does not incorporate the second word of their facility's name. However, the Battle Salon is an actual room in a {{gdis|Battle Tower|III}} where Trainers can meet each other and team up to participate in [[Multi Battle]]s.
** In the anime episode wherein she made her debut, Anabel was mentioned to be the head of the Battle Tower's Battle Salon.
* In the anime, her {{p|Espeon}} knows {{m|Zap Cannon}}, a move [[Anime move errors|it could not learn in the games]] at the time of her anime appearance during [[Generation III]].
* Anabel's ability to sense the feelings of Pokémon is similar to that of {{an|N}} in the anime and [[Sheena]] from the [[M12|twelfth movie]].
* Anabel's [[Battle Tree]] battle music in {{pkmn|Sun and Moon}} and {{pkmn|Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon}} is a completely unaltered version of the Frontier Brain battle theme from Emerald.
* Anabel is 165 cm (5'5") tall in [[Generation VII]].

==Names==
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{frontier color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{frontier color}}"
|-
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Japanese
| リラ ''Lila''
| From ''lilas'' (French for {{wp|Syringa vulgaris|lilac}}) or ''lila'' (Spanish for lilac)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| English
| Anabel
| From ''ability''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| German
| Anabel
| From ''Anlage'' (asset)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Spanish
| Destra
| From ''destreza'' (skill)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| French
| Cathy
| From ''capacité'' (skill)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Italian
| Alberta
| From ''abilità'' (ability)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Korean
| 리라 ''Lila''
| Transcription of her Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and Mainland China}})
| 莉拉 ''Lìlā''
| rowspan="2" | Transcription of her Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Cantonese|Hong Kong}})
| 莉拉 ''Leihlāai''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Vietnamese
| Lila
| Transcription of her Japanese name.
|}

==Related articles==
* [[a:Category:Anabel|Images on the Bulbagarden Archives]]
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{{CharInfobox
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|corecolor={{frontier color light}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|name=Anabel
|jname=リラ
|tmname=Lila
|image=Anabel SM concept art.png
|size=200px
|caption=Concept art from Generation VII
|gender=Female
|colors=yes
|eyes=Lilac
|hair=Lilac
|hometown=Unknown
|region=[[Hoenn]]{{pkmn|games|*}}/[[Kanto]][[Pokémon anime|*]]
|relatives=Unknown
|trainer=yes
|trainerclass={{tc|Tower Tycoon|Salon Maiden}}{{sup/3|E}} [[Frontier Brain|(Frontier Brain)]] [[Pokémon Trainer]]{{sup/7|SMUSUM}}
|game=yes
|generation={{gen|III}}, {{gen|VII}}
|games={{v2|Emerald}}, {{pkmn|Sun and Moon}}, {{pkmn|Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon}}
|leader=no
|brain=yes
|facility={{gdis|Battle Tower|III}}
|symbol=Ability Symbol
|specialist=yes
|type={{t|Psychic}} types{{tt|*|Anime only}}
|anime=yes
|epnum=AG169
|epname=Talking a Good Game
|enva=[[Hilary Thomas]]
|java=[[Akiko Kimura]]
}}

'''Anabel''' (Japanese: '''リラ''' ''Lila'') is an [[International Police]] officer and [[Pokémon Trainer]] who was introduced as a [[Frontier Brain]] in charge of running the {{gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}'s {{gdis|Battle Tower|III}} under the title of '''{{tc|Tower Tycoon|Salon Maiden}}''' (Japanese: '''タワータイクーン''' ''Tower Tycoon''). In [[Generation VII]], she works with [[Looker]].

==In the games==
===Generation III===
Anabel is described as a "mysterious [[Trainer]]" by a resident of the Battle Frontier. She first appears in the {{gdis|Battle Tower|III}} as the 35th opponent the {{player}} faces, unimpressed by the rumors she has heard about their accomplishments. She battles the player with a team meant to size them up, and awards the [[Symbol|Ability Symbol]] onto the {{DL|Trainer Card (game)|Frontier Pass}} upon defeat. Now understanding the player's ability, she urges them to continue their winning streak and reach her again.

Later, Anabel appears again at the 70th consecutive match. This time, she is happy that the player won consecutive matches to see her, and that she can battle flat-out without holding back at all. After being defeated, she thanks the player for giving her a battle more enjoyable than any she ever had before, and confers the Gold Symbol upon them.

She is one of the two known {{tc|Tower Tycoon}}s, the other one being [[Palmer]] of the Battle Tower in the [[Sinnoh]] region.

===Generation VII===
{{Spoilers}}
Ten years prior to the events of {{pkmn|Sun and Moon}}, Anabel was found unconscious on a [[Poni Island]] beach by [[Looker]] and [[Nanu]], who had just completed a mission for the [[International Police]]. She had lost most of her memories, only able to tell them her name, that she came from Hoenn, that she protected a tower there, and that she was a powerful Trainer. After being placed in the care of the International Police, they detected incredible amounts of [[Ultra Wormhole]] energy coming from her, implying that she was a Faller who was lost in a wormhole for a significant time. Anabel has never been informed of this, however.

Anabel eventually joined the International Police herself and quickly ascended the ranks, until she ended up as Looker's superior in the UB Task Force, a secret division of the International Police that deals with [[Ultra Beast]]s. After the player becomes {{pkmn|Champion}} in Pokémon Sun and Moon, they will meet Anabel and Looker when they visit the {{rt|8|Alola}} motel on [[Akala Island]].

When the player meets Anabel and Looker, the pair recruit the player to the UB Task Force. Although one of the task force's duties is to either safeguard or destroy the Ultra Beasts, neither Anabel nor Looker wishes to harm them, so they need the help of the new Champion of Alola. Anabel will also battle the player to ensure that they are up to the job.

The group proceeds to track down and catch Ultra Beasts across all four of Alola's islands. After the player catches the first, Nihilego, Anabel arranges for the player to keep the Ultra Beasts, rather than delivering them to the International Police where they would end up as research subjects. During each mission, Anabel's job is to protect nearby populated areas with the assistance of her Pokémon. As the missions continue, however, Anabel starts to show signs of fatigue. Apparently, the Ultra Beasts are being drawn to her strongly as a Faller and becoming extremely aggressive toward her, which is only exacerbated when there are multiple of them that can assail her simultaneously. In the last mission, Looker finally misdirects her away from the action so that she can recover her strength.

After all of the Ultra Beasts have been caught, the International Police HQ grants Anabel and Looker paid leave until they receive their next orders. Anabel plans to go meet with Nanu again and then spend her time sightseeing around Alola.

Anabel can later be encountered again as a Trainer in the [[Battle Tree]], primarily using Pokémon from her Emerald roster.

In {{pkmn|Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon}}, Anabel makes a cameo appearance with Looker in [[Poni Plains]]. The two block the way to [[Poni Coast]] until the UB incident at [[Poni Grove]] is resolved, at which point Anabel leaves to go to the Battle Tree for training. It is mentioned that in these games, Anabel and Looker are on vacation in Alola instead of being there for a mission.

===Pokémon===
===={{game|Emerald}}====
=====Silver Symbol challenge=====
{{Party/Single
|color={{frontier color}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|headcolor={{frontier color light}}
|sprite=Spr E Anabel.png
|prize=15{{color2|000|Battle Point|BP}}
|class=Salon Maiden
|classlink=Tower Tycoon (Trainer class)
|name=Anabel
|game=E
|location=Battle Tower (Generation III)
|locationname=Battle Tower
|pokemon=3}}
{{lop/facility/head|{{frontier color light}}|{{frontier color dark}}|{{frontier color}}}}
{{lop/facility|game=3|065|Alakazam|BrightPowder|ThunderPunch|Electric|Fire Punch|Fire|Ice Punch|Ice|Disable|Normal|Modest|106||152|100||152}}
{{lop/facility|game=3|244|Entei|Lum Berry|Fire Blast|Fire|Calm Mind|Psychic|Return|Normal|Roar|Normal|Lonely|100|152|152|100|6|}}
{{lop/facility|game=3|143|Snorlax|Quick Claw|Body Slam|Normal|Belly Drum|Normal|Yawn|Normal|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Adamant|152|152||106|100}}
{{Party/Footer}}

=====Gold Symbol challenge=====
{{Party/Single
|color={{frontier color}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|headcolor={{frontier color light}}
|sprite=Spr E Anabel.png
|prize=20{{color2|000|Battle Point|BP}}
|class=Salon Maiden
|classlink=Tower Tycoon (Trainer class)
|name=Anabel
|game=E
|location=Battle Tower (Generation III)
|locationname=Battle Tower
|pokemon=3}}
{{lop/facility/head|{{frontier color light}}|{{frontier color dark}}|{{frontier color}}}}
{{lop/facility|game=3|243|Raikou|Lum Berry|Thunderbolt|Electric|Calm Mind|Psychic|Reflect|Psychic|Rest|Psychic|Modest|158||252|||100}}
{{lop/facility|game=3|381|Latios|BrightPowder|Psychic|Psychic|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Calm Mind|Psychic|Recover|Normal|Modest|252||252|100||6}}
{{lop/facility|game=3|143|Snorlax|Chesto Berry|Curse|???|Return|Normal|Rest|Psychic|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Adamant|252|252||6|}}
{{Party/Footer}}

===={{pkmn|Sun and Moon|Pokémon Sun, Moon}}, {{pkmn|Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon}}====
Anabel's Pokémon are kept in [[Ultra Ball]]s.

=====First battle{{sup/7|SM}}=====
{{Party/Single
|color={{frontier color}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|headcolor={{frontier color light}}
|sprite=VSAnabel.png
|size=150px
|prize={{pdollar}}13,420
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|classlink=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Anabel
|game=SM
|location=Alola Route 8
|locationname=Route 8
|pokemon=5}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=065
|pokemon=Alakazam
|gender=male
|level=61
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Inner Focus
|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Special
|move2=Focus Blast|move2type=Fighting|move2cat=Special
|move3=Psyshock|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Special
|move4=Disable|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Status}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=461
|pokemon=Weavile
|gender=female
|level=61
|type1=Dark|type2=Ice
|ability=Pressure
|move1=Night Slash|move1type=Dark|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical
|move3=X-Scissor|move3type=Bug|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Brick Break|move4type=Fighting|move4cat=Physical}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=429
|pokemon=Mismagius
|gender=female
|level=61
|type1=Ghost
|ability=Levitate
|move1=Shadow Ball|move1type=Ghost|move1cat=Special
|move2=Dazzling Gleam|move2type=Fairy|move2cat=Special
|move3=Energy Ball|move3type=Grass|move3cat=Special
|move4=Thunderbolt|move4type=Electric|move4cat=Special}}
{{Party/Div|color={{frontier color}}}}
|style="margin:auto"|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=373
|pokemon=Salamence
|gender=male
|level=61
|type1=Dragon|type2=Flying
|ability=Intimidate
|move1=Dragon Claw|move1type=Dragon|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Zen Headbutt|move2type=Psychic|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Fire Fang|move3type=Fire|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Thunder Fang|move4type=Electric|move4cat=Physical}}
|style="margin:auto"|{{Pokémon/7
|ndex=143
|pokemon=Snorlax
|gender=male
|level=61
|type1=Normal
|ability=Immunity
|move1=Body Slam|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Crunch|move2type=Dark|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Heavy Slam|move3type=Steel|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Yawn|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Status}}
{{Party/Footer}}

=====Battle Tree=====
Anabel uses three of these Pokémon in [[Pokémon battle|Single Battles]], four in [[Double Battle]]s, and two in [[Multi Battle]]s.

{{Party/Single
|color={{frontier color}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|headcolor={{frontier color light}}
|sprite=VSAnabel.png
|size=150px
|prize=2-7{{color2|000|Battle Point|BP}}
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|classlink=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Anabel
|game=SMUSUM
|location=Battle Tree
|pokemon=4}}
|
{{lop/facility/head|{{frontier color light}}|{{frontier color}}|{{frontier color}}}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|065|Alakazam|Alakazite|Psychic|Psychic|Focus Blast|Fighting|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Grass Knot|Grass|Timid||||252||252}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|448|Lucario|Lucarionite|Close Combat|Fighting|Rock Slide|Rock|Blaze Kick|Fire|Bullet Punch|Steel|Jolly||252||||252}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|143|Snorlax|Life Orb|Double-Edge|Normal|Earthquake|Ground|Crunch|Dark|Protect|Normal|Adamant||252|252|||}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|065|Alakazam|Choice Specs|Psychic|Psychic|Focus Blast|Fighting|Dazzling Gleam|Fairy|Trick|Psychic|Timid||||252||252}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|448|Lucario|Weakness Policy|Aura Sphere|Fighting|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Stone Edge|Rock|Extreme Speed|Normal|Serious||170||170||170}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|143|Snorlax|Assault Vest|Body Slam|Normal|Fissure|Ground|Earthquake|Ground|Crunch|Dark|Careful|252||||252|}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|243|Raikou|Shuca Berry|Thunderbolt|Electric|Volt Switch|Electric|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Extrasensory|Psychic|Timid||||252||252}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|244|Entei|Focus Sash|Overheat|Fire|Flame Charge|Fire|Fire Fang|Fire|Stone Edge|Rock|Lonely||252||||252}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|381|Latios|Lax Incense|Calm Mind|Psychic|Luster Purge|Psychic|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Recover|Normal|Bold|252||252|||}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|243|Raikou|Electrium Z|Charge Beam|Electric|Thunder Wave|Electric|Calm Mind|Psychic|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Timid|||252|||252}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|244|Entei|Chesto Berry|Calm Mind|Psychic|Will-O-Wisp|Fire|Flamethrower|Fire|Rest|Psychic|Bold|170||170||170|}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|381|Latios|White Herb|Draco Meteor|Dragon|Thunderbolt|Electric|Psychic|Psychic|Protect|Normal|Timid||||252||252}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|243|Raikou|Electrium Z|Thunderbolt|Electric|Volt Switch|Electric|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Protect|Normal|Timid||||252||252}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|244|Entei|Choice Scarf|Eruption|Fire|Fire Blast|Fire|Extrasensory|Psychic|Solar Beam|Grass|Timid||||252||252}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|381|Latios|Choice Specs|Draco Meteor|Dragon|Thunder|Electric|Psychic|Psychic|Energy Ball|Grass|Timid||||252||252}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|243|Raikou|Air Balloon|Thunder|Electric|Discharge|Electric|Reflect|Psychic|Extrasensory|Psychic|Timid||||252||252}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|244|Entei|Life Orb|Sacred Fire|Fire|Bulldoze|Ground|Stone Edge|Rock|Protect|Normal|Adamant|252|252||||}}
{{lop/facility|game=6|381|Latios|Latiosite|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Earthquake|Ground|Dragon Dance|Dragon|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Adamant||252||||252}}
|}
{{Party/Footer}}

===Quotes===
{{main|Anabel/Quotes}}

==Artwork==
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| Official artwork from {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Pokémon Emerald}}
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===Sprites===
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| Sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
| In-battle model from {{color2|000|Pokémon Sun and Moon|Sun, Moon}}, {{color2|000|Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon}}
| VS model from {{color2|000|Pokémon Sun and Moon|Sun, Moon}}, {{color2|000|Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon}}
|-
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|colspan=2 style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background: #{{frontier color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Anabel SM OD.png|100px]]
|-
| Overworld sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
| colspan=2|Overworld model from {{color2|000|Pokémon Sun and Moon|Sun, Moon}}, {{color2|000|Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon}}
|}

==In the anime==
[[File:Anabel anime.png|thumb|250px|Anabel in the {{pkmn|anime}}]]
Anabel debuted in ''[[AG169|Talking a Good Game!]]''. {{Ash}} and {{AP|Pikachu}} met her when they were chased by an angry {{p|Beedrill}}. Anabel quickly calmed Beedrill down after speaking to it, much to Ash's surprise. The pair soon came across a rampaging {{p|Gyarados}}, and Anabel once again showed off her empathy abilities to settled it down. {{TRT}} soon ambushed the duo in an attempt to steal Pikachu, but it soon turned into a {{pkmn|battle}}, which Anabel won after having her {{p|Alakazam}} {{status|Confusion|confuse}} Team Rocket's Pokémon. {{an|May}}, [[Max]], and {{an|Brock}} later caught up with Anabel and Ash, and Anabel escorted everyone to her home to get changed out of their wet clothes. There, they learned that Anabel was actually a girl.

The group then quickly rushed off to the {{OBP|Battle Tower|Generation III}}, but were shocked to learn that Anabel was also the Salon Maiden, who Ash was supposed to challenge for his next [[Symbol]]. Ash lost his first match to Anabel after her powerful Alakazam managed to defeat his {{AP|Corphish}} and {{AP|Tauros}}, consecutively. Pikachu, however, was able to defeat Alakazam in the next round. Anabel then sent out her Metagross, and it knocked Pikachu out with a {{m|Hyper Beam}}.

Anabel reappeared in ''[[AG170|Second Time's the Charm!]]''. Ash once again disturbed a group of Beedrill as he trained with his Pokemon. Tauros was stung and knocked its Trainer and Anabel into a nearby lake, but she quickly shrugged off the incident. While lunch was ruined because of Team Rocket, Anabel tried to teach Ash and May about her psychic powers, but to no avail.

Ash later had his [[rematch]] against Anabel. Corphish was able to defeat Alakazam after Ash listened to it and quickly returned it to its {{i|Poké Ball}} before sending Corphish back out again to overcome its confusion. Corphish lost in the next round, and after an exchange of strengths between Tauros and Metagross, the battle ended in a draw. In the final round, Anabel's {{p|Espeon}} was able to shadow Pikachu's [[move]]s and overwhelm his {{m|Thunderbolt}} with a more powerful {{m|Zap Cannon}}. However, Pikachu caused the facility to have a power outage and used the darkness to strike Espeon. Pikachu concluded the match with a {{m|Volt Tackle}}, earning Ash the Ability Symbol. As they said goodbye to one another, Anabel was revealed to have a crush on Ash.

She reappeared during a flashback in ''[[DP128|A Pyramiding Rage!]]''.

===Character===
Anabel has the empathetic ability to sense the emotions of living beings and communicate with them, ever since she was little. She also shares a particularly strong bond with her Pokémon, and is seemingly able to command them telepathically. Without the vocal commands as a cue, {{Ash}} initially struggled to compete against Anabel.

Anabel uses her Psychic Pokémon's attacks to either {{status|Confusion|confuse}} her opponent's Pokémon or control oncoming attacks. Her Pokémon also know some [[physical move]]s like {{m|Meteor Mash}}, making them equally effective in direct confrontations.

===Pokémon===
This listing is of Anabel's known Pokémon in the {{pkmn|anime}}:

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Alakazam
|type1=Psychic
|img=Anabel Alakazam.png
|epnum=AG169
|epname=Talking a Good Game!
|vajp=Kenta Miyake
|vaen=Maddie Blaustein
|desc=Anabel first called on {{p|Alakazam}} in ''[[AG169|Talking a Good Game!]]'' to help her and {{Ash}} when they were attacked by {{TRT}}. Alakazam was able to defeat them with its powerful Psychic attack. Ash then realized that Anabel was a [[Frontier Brain]] and that he would have to battle Alakazam. Ash chose {{AP|Corphish}} for that match. In the end, Alakazam easily defeated {{p|Corphish}} and {{AP|Tauros}} before finally being defeated by his {{AP|Pikachu}}, but it was able to weaken it beforehand.

In ''[[AG170|Second Time's the Charm!]]'', Ash had a [[rematch]] with Anabel. Again, she chose Alakazam as her first Pokémon. It went head to head against Corphish once again, but this time, Alakazam was defeated by Corphish's {{m|Bubble Beam}} after Ash found a way to overcome Corphish's confusion.

Alakazam's known moves are {{m|Psychic}}, {{m|Psybeam}}, {{m|Focus Punch}}, and {{m|Recover}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Metagross
|type1=Steel
|type2=Psychic
|img=Anabel Metagross.png
|epnum=AG169
|epname=Talking a Good Game!
|vajp=Unshō Ishizuka
|vaen=Unshō Ishizuka
|desc={{p|Metagross}} was first seen during {{Ash}}'s first match against her, where it easily defeated {{AP|Pikachu}}, losing the match for Ash. During Ash's [[rematch]] against Anabel, Metagross easily defeated {{AP|Corphish}}, but the Iron Leg Pokémon later tied with {{AP|Tauros}} after its Meteor Mash collided with Tauros's {{m|Take Down}}.

Metagross's known moves are {{m|Psychic}}, {{m|Iron Defense}}, {{m|Meteor Mash}}, and {{m|Hyper Beam}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Espeon
|type1=Psychic
|img=Anabel Espeon.png
|epnum=AG170
|epname=Second Time's the Charm!
|vajp=Megumi Hayashibara
|vaen=Megumi Hayashibara
|desc={{p|Espeon}}, Anabel's favorite Pokémon, was seen during {{Ash}}'s [[rematch]] against her, where it battled {{AP|Pikachu}}. Even though Espeon initially managed to overwhelm Pikachu with its speed and power, one of Pikachu's {{m|Thunderbolt}}s turned the lights off, making it impossible for both Anabel and Espeon to see where the next attack was coming from. This cost some critical hits for Espeon, and Pikachu was finally able to defeat the Sun Pokémon with a {{m|Volt Tackle}}, winning the match for Ash and earning him the [[Symbol|Ability Symbol]].

It also reappeared in a flashback in ''[[DP128|A Pyramiding Rage!]].

Espeon's known moves are {{m|Quick Attack}}, {{m|Iron Tail}}, {{m|Zap Cannon}}, and {{m|Psychic}}.}}

===Voice actors===
{{vatable|color={{frontier color}}|bordercolor={{frontier color light}}
|ja=木村亜希子 ''[[Akiko Kimura]]''
|en=[[Hilary Thomas]]
|es_la=Rebeca Gómez
|es_eu=Sara Vivas
|fi=Elise Langenoja
|it=Daniela Fava
|pt_br=Gilmara Sanchez}}

==In the manga==
===Pokémon Adventures===
[[File:Anabel Adventures.png|thumb|270px|Anabel in Pokémon Adventures]]
====History====
====={{chap|Emerald}}=====
Anabel is one of the seven {{pkmn|Trainer}}s hired by [[Scott]] to be a [[Frontier Brain]] at the {{gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}. Anabel is first seen watching the Battle Frontier's opening ceremony. The ceremony is interrupted by {{adv|Emerald}}, who announces that he wishes to conquer the Battle Frontier. The press mistakenly report the incident as allowing an ordinary Trainer to take part in the Battle Frontier before it officially opens a week later. The Frontier Brains decide to use this assumption as free publicity and allow Emerald to challenge the Battle Frontier under the condition that he completes it before it officially opens.

Later, while Emerald is challenging the [[Battle Pyramid]], Noland is attacked by an unknown assailant and several rental Pokémon are stolen. After Noland is taken to a hospital, the other Frontier Brains begin to suspect Emerald as the culprit. They head to the Battle Pyramid to confront Emerald and find him after having defeated Brandon. When they ask him about what happened, Emerald reveals that he did not attack Noland and is actually after the Mythical Pokémon {{adv|Jirachi}}. The Frontier Brains find Emerald's explanation suspicious, but decide to follow him into [[Artisan Cave]], where Jirachi is currently located at. Upon arriving, everyone is attacked by a horde of wild {{p|Smeargle}} while Emerald continues inside to find Jirachi. After the Frontier Brains get past the Smeargle, they meet up with Emerald, who has managed to find Jirachi. Emerald attempts to capture Jirachi, but is attacked by [[Guile Hideout]], the actual culprit who attacked Noland. When Jirachi runs off, Emerald attempts to pursue it, only to be attacked by the rental Pokémon Guile had stolen. The other Frontier Brains attempt to avenge Noland by attacking Guile, but are swiftly defeated.
[[File:Anabel SM chapter.png|150px|thumb|Anabel in the fourteenth chapter]]
Anabel applauds Emerald for focusing on his mission instead of staying behind to fight and offers to fight Guile while he focuses on capturing Jirachi. Using Raikou's control over lightning, Anabel manages to trap Guile in a cage of electricity. Emerald attempts to use this chance to capture Jirachi, but Guile uses his sword to destroy the Poké Ball and breaks free from the cage. Jirachi takes this chance to flee, forcing Guile to escape as well to continue his pursuit of it. Injured from the battle, everyone decides to return to the Battle Frontier. When they meet up with Scott again, he reveals that he was aware of Guile and Emerald's true mission the entire time. Scott states that he withheld the information from the Frontier Brains to help them get stronger as they still would have lost even if they had known of Guile beforehand.

The next day, Anabel watches the tournament being hosted at the [[Battle Dome]], where Emerald is challenging to obtain his fifth Symbol. As Emerald battles Tucker in the finals, Scott asks Anabel to talk with him somewhere else. This Scott is revealed to be a disguised Guile, who puts Anabel under mind control. After this, Guile returns to the Battle Dome, where he manages to find and capture Jirachi. Guile uses the rental Pokémon to attack innocent bystanders and heads to the {{gdis|Battle Tower|III}} to make his wish. Emerald, Noland, {{adv|Ruby}}, and {{adv|Sapphire}} all head to the Battle Tower to stop Guile, but are forced to traverse the Battle Tower's seventy floors and challenge Anabel on the final floor. Emerald manages to get to Anabel first, but is defeated by the time everyone else arrives.

The stress of the mind control eventually causes Anabel to pass out, forcing Guile to use her as a hostage in order to force Noland to give him the Jirachi Report, which contains the secrets of how to make Jirachi grant his wish. When Noland is unsure about what to do, Guile attacks him and takes the report by force. Now knowing Jirachi's secret, Guile has Jirachi create a gigantic {{p|Kyogre}} made of seawater and uses it to flood the entire Battle Frontier. Anabel is taken to safety by {{p|Latios}} and later awakens to help the Frontier Brains fight off Guile's rental Pokémon while Emerald and the other Pokédex holders fight Guile. Eventually, Emerald and the Pokédex holders manage to defeat Guile and destroy the gigantic Kyogre monster. The day after, an injured Anabel and the other Frontier Brains congratulate Emerald for the hard work he put into saving everyone. Anabel then awards Emerald the Ability Symbol for his skills in traversing the Battle Tower.

====={{chap|Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire}}=====
Anabel and the other Hoenn Frontier Brains battle and defeat the Admins of Neo [[Team Magma]] and Neo [[Team Aqua]], who had interfered in the launch of a rocket that was made to stop the [[Grand Meteor Delta|meteoroid]] threatening to destroy the world. Once finished, Anabel is contacted by Emerald, who asks if any of the Frontier Brains had seen Sapphire in the area. When the Brains deny seeing Sapphire, Emerald thanks them and leaves. Later, Anabel and the other Hoenn Frontier Brains are called to [[Sootopolis City]] to assist in stopping the meteoroid.

====={{chap|Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon}}=====
It was revealed that Anabel had become a member of the [[International Police]]. She, along with {{adv|Looker}} first appear investigating [[Po Town]], where several [[Ultra Beasts]] had appeared before breaking out and wreaking havoc on [[Ula'ula Island]]. Shortly after arriving, Anabel and Looker meet with {{adv|Sun}} and {{adv|Moon}}, a pair of children who had previously faced the Ultra Beasts. While she questioned Sun and Moon about the beasts, Anabel had Looker go off to investigate the rampaging beasts to find information on them as well. After receiving the information, Anabel sent out her {{p|Mismagius}} to battle {{p|Blacephalon}}, another Ultra Beast that emerged from an [[Ultra Wormhole]].

Together with Sun, Anabel managed to stun Blacephalon long enough to throw a {{i|Poké Ball}} at it, but Blacephalon immediately breaks out, confirming that regular Poké Balls do not work on Ultra Beasts. Blacephalon retaliates by using {{m|Mind Blown}} on the group, forcing Anabel to get everyone out of the way. Anabel and the others are saved by {{p|Tapu Bulu}}, the [[Guardian deities|guardian deity]] of Ula'ula Island, who used a large gust of wind to blow both Blacephalon and its attack far away. As Sun and Moon feed a [[Mirage Berry]] to Tapu Bulu to befriend it, Anabel speculates that there must be a man hiding in Alola capable of making Poké Balls that are able to capture Ultra Beasts.

Later, Anabel, Sun, and Moon head towards [[Poni Island]]. Anabel revealed to Sun and Moon that {{p|Xurkitree}} and Blacephalon are also making their way to Poni. Due to Poni not having an [[Island Kahuna]], there would be no one capable enough of protecting the island from the two beasts. Sun, more fixated on delivering the next Mirage Berry to {{p|Tapu Fini}}, decided to head off and find someone who can help him search for it. After docking on Poni, Anabel and Moon arrived at [[Seafolk Village]], which had been evacuated due to the Ultra Beasts' attacks. Worried that some injured people may still be there, Anabel requested to Moon that she help heal any hurt civilians. As they walked through [[Poni Wilds]], Moon asked Anabel how she knew the names of the Ultra Beasts. Anabel then revealed that she knew because she is a Faller, a human who had passed through an Ultra Wormhole.

Later, Anabel and Moon traveled to [[Vast Poni Canyon]], where they witnessed [[Faba]] battling [[Plumeria]]. Anabel confronted Faba about the [[Aether Foundation]]'s involvement with the Ultra Beasts' appearance in Alola. Worried that his plans could be jeopardized, Faba has his {{tc|Aether Foundation Employee}}s battle against Anabel and Moon, hoping the distraction would give him the chance to escape. Anabel used her Pokémon to keep the Employees busy while she, Moon, and Plumeria followed Faba. As he approached the [[Poni Altar]], Faba revealed he was aware of his pursuers and proceeded to attack them while assisted by more Employees. During the battle, Moon was grabbed by {{p|Tapu Koko}} and taken to the Poni Altar.

Later, Anabel managed to defeat and capture Faba. After meeting with [[Gladion]], [[Lillie]], and [[Hapu]], the four traveled to the Altar, where they found that Sun and Moon managed to summon {{p|Solgaleo}} and {{p|Lunala}}, the [[Legendary Pokémon]] of the Alola region. After explaining what Solgaleo and Lunala are and their connection with {{p|Cosmog}}, Anabel received a call from Looker, who reported that a large number of Ultra Beasts emerged from Po Town and have made their way to Poni Island. Anabel teamed up with Moon, Gladion, and Hapu to fend off the attacking beasts. Later, a larger than usual wormhole opened at the Altar, which Anabel noted was caused by the {{p|Necrozma|Blinding One}}. A hand emerged from the wormhole and grabbed Solgaleo, taking control of its body. The possessed Solgaleo captured Sun with its tail and jumped into the wormhole while Moon and [[Nebby]] followed after it.

====Pokémon====
=====On hand=====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Mismagius
|type1=Ghost
|img=Anabel Mismagius Adventures.png
|epnum=PASM20
|epname=An Urgent Task and the Capture of an Ultra Beast
|desc={{p|Mismagius}} is Anabel's second known Pokémon. It was first used to battle a {{p|Blacephalon}} at [[Po Town]] alongside {{adv|Sun}}'s [[Cent]]. Together, they managed to stun it long enough for Anabel to attempt a capture, but the [[Ultra Beast]] broke out of the {{i|Poké Ball}} easily.

Mismagius's known moves are {{m|Magical Leaf}} and {{m|Phantom Force}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Salamence
|type1=Dragon
|type2=Flying
|img=Anabel Salamence Adventures.png
|epnum=PASM23
|epname=Battle in Vast Poni Canyon
|desc={{p|Salamence}} is Anabel's third known Pokémon. It was first seen keeping Anabel and {{adv|Moon}} in the air while they confronted [[Faba]] at [[Vast Poni Canyon]].

None of Salamence's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Alakazam
|type1=Psychic
|img=Anabel Alakazam Adventures.png
|epnum=PASM24
|epname=Play the Melody That Echoes in the Altar
|desc={{p|Alakazam}} is Anabel's fourth known Pokémon. It was first used to battle a group of {{tc|Aether Foundation Employee}}s at [[Vast Poni Canyon]].

None of Alakazam's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Snorlax
|type1=Normal
|img=Anabel Snorlax Adventures.png
|epnum=PASM24
|epname=Play the Melody That Echoes in the Altar
|desc={{p|Snorlax}} is Anabel's fifth known Pokémon. It was first used to battle a group of {{tc|Aether Foundation Employee}}s at [[Vast Poni Canyon]].

None of Snorlax's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Weavile
|type1=Dark
|type2=Ice
|img=Anabel Weavile Adventures.png
|epnum=PASM24
|epname=Play the Melody That Echoes in the Altar
|desc={{p|Weavile}} is Anabel's sixth known Pokémon. It was first used to battle a group of {{tc|Aether Foundation Employee}}s at [[Vast Poni Canyon]].

None of Weavile's moves are known.}}

=====Status unknown=====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Raikou
|type1=Electric
|img=Anabel Raikou Adventures.png
|epnum=PS117
|epname=Slugging It Out With Slugma
|desc={{main|Legendary beasts (Adventures)#Raikou|Raikou (Adventures)}}

Anabel caught this {{p|Raikou}} after it was released following the battle against the [[Masked Man]]. She is said to have captured this Legendary Pokémon during her trip somewhere in Johto. Raikou has been with her since then and she continues to rely on it for all of her battles. Because it carries a large thundercloud on its back, it both allows a handier usage of its trademark Thunder as well as strengthen it.}}

===Pokémon Battle Frontier===
[[File:Anabel CBF.png|100px|thumb|Anabel in Pokémon Battle Frontier]]
[[File:Anabel photographer CBF.png|thumb|left|100px|Anabel as a photographer]]
Anabel first appeared in ''[[CBF4|Introducing the Frontier Brains!]]'', disguised as a photographer. She took a picture of [[Enta's Vulpix]] and {{p|Feebas}}. She told Enta about the Frontier Brains after [[Rald]] was defeated by her, prompting him to challenge them in order to discover which one defeated Rald.

After Enta defeated his sixth Frontier Brain, [[Lucy]], he was told that the seventh one is none other than Anabel herself, much to his surprise. Enta's battle with Anabel ended up in a draw after a showdown between Ninetales and Entei.
{{-}}

====Pokémon====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Entei
|type1=Fire
|img=Anabel Entei CBF.png
|epnum=CBF6
|epname=Final Battle: Versus The Salon Maiden
|desc={{p|Entei}} was the first revealed Pokémon. It was the final Pokémon that went up against {{OBP|Enta|CBF}} after both sides were down to one Pokémon. It battled Ninetales and managed to dodge many of its attacks. In the end, despite putting up a great fight, it ended up defeating Ninetales and got knocked out in the process.

Entei's known moves are {{m|Double Team}} and {{m|Fire Blast}}{{tt|*|mentioned only}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Alakazam
|type1=Psychic
|img=Anabel Alakazam CBF.png
|epnum=CBF6
|epname=Final Battle: Versus The Salon Maiden
|desc={{p|Alakazam}} was the first opponent who battled Enta. It went up against {{p|Zangoose}} and won using its speed. Alakazam then went up against Milotic where it was taken out by Milotic's {{m|Hydro Pump}}.

None of Alakazam's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Anabel
|pkmn=Snorlax
|type1=Normal
|img=Anabel Snorlax CBF.png
|epnum=CBF6
|epname=Final Battle: Versus The Salon Maiden
|desc={{p|Snorlax}} was the second opponent that battled Enta. Snorlax battled Milotic after Milotic defeated Alakazam. Due to Milotic's previous opponent, Snorlax was able to take it out with Body Slam. Snorlax then battled {{TP|Enta|Ninetales}} and was easily defeated by Ninetales's {{m|Hyper Beam}}.

Snorlax's only known move is {{m|Body Slam}}.}}

==Trivia==
* Despite being female, in Japanese, Anabel uses the typically masculine personal pronoun ボク ''boku''.
* Anabel is the only [[Frontier Brain]] whose title (in some languages) does not incorporate the second word of their facility's name. However, the Battle Salon is an actual room in a {{gdis|Battle Tower|III}} where Trainers can meet each other and team up to participate in [[Multi Battle]]s.
** In the anime episode wherein she made her debut, Anabel was mentioned to be the head of the Battle Tower's Battle Salon.
* In the anime, her {{p|Espeon}} knows {{m|Zap Cannon}}, a move [[Anime move errors|it could not learn in the games]] at the time of her anime appearance during [[Generation III]].
* Anabel's ability to sense the feelings of Pokémon is similar to that of {{an|N}} in the anime and [[Sheena]] from the [[M12|twelfth movie]].
* Anabel's [[Battle Tree]] battle music in {{pkmn|Sun and Moon}} and {{pkmn|Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon}} is a completely unaltered version of the Frontier Brain battle theme from Emerald.
* Anabel is 165 cm (5'5") tall in [[Generation VII]].

==Names==
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{frontier color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{frontier color}}"
|-
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Japanese
| リラ ''Lila''
| From ''lilas'' (French for {{wp|Syringa vulgaris|lilac}}) or ''lila'' (Spanish for lilac)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| English
| Anabel
| From ''ability''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| German
| Anabel
| From ''Anlage'' (asset)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Spanish
| Destra
| From ''destreza'' (skill)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| French
| Cathy
| From ''capacité'' (skill)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Italian
| Alberta
| From ''abilità'' (ability)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Korean
| 리라 ''Lila''
| Transcription of her Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and Mainland China}})
| 莉拉 ''Lìlā''
| rowspan="2" | Transcription of her Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Cantonese|Hong Kong}})
| 莉拉 ''Leihlāai''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Vietnamese
| Lila
| Transcription of her Japanese name.
|}

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Greta

2022-02-27T20:23:42Z

Strawhatroger: Undo revision 3483795 by Eridanus (talk)

{{CharInfobox
|color={{frontier color}}
|corecolor={{frontier color light}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|name=Greta
|jname=コゴミ
|tmname=Kogomi
|image=Emerald Greta.png
|size=200px
|caption=Art from Emerald
|gender=Female
|colors=yes
|eyes=Blue
|hair=Blonde
|hometown=Unknown
|region=[[Hoenn]][[Pokémon Emerald Version|*]]/[[Kanto]][[Pokémon anime|*]]
|relatives=Unknown
|trainer=yes
|trainerclass=[[Frontier Brain|Arena Tycoon (Frontier Brain)]]
|game=yes
|generation={{Gen|III}}
|games={{game|Emerald}}
|leader=no
|brain=yes
|facility=[[Battle Arena]]
|symbol=Guts Symbol
|specialist=yes
|type={{t|Fighting}} types{{tt|*|Anime only}}
|anime=yes
|epnum=AG149
|epname=Wheel of Frontier!
|enva=[[Sonny Dey]]
|java=[[Sanae Kobayashi]]
}}
'''Greta''' (Japanese: '''コゴミ''' ''Kogomi'') is the [[Frontier Brain]] and leader of the {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}'s [[Battle Arena]]. She is the only character in the games to have the {{DL|Pokémon Trainer|Trainer class}} '''Arena Tycoon''' (Japanese: '''アリーナキャプテン''' ''Arena Captain'').

==In the games==
Greta can be blunt, and if an opponent looks weak, she will let them know. She likes tough Trainers and will gladly hand over the Guts Symbol if defeated.

===Pokémon===
====Silver Symbol challenge====
{{Party/Single
|color={{frontier color}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|headcolor={{frontier color light}}
|sprite=Spr E Greta.png
|prize=12{{color2|000|Battle Point|BP}}
|class=Arena Tycoon
|classlink=Greta
|name=Greta
|game=E
|location=Battle Arena
|pokemon=3}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=214
|pokemon=Heracross
|gender=both
|type1=Bug|type2=Fighting
|ability=Swarm|ability2=Guts
|held=Salac Berry
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|move1=Megahorn|move1type=Bug
|move2=Rock Tomb|move2type=Rock
|move3=Endure|move3type=Normal
|move4=Reversal|move4type=Fighting}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=197
|pokemon=Umbreon
|gender=both
|type1=Dark
|ability=Synchronize
|held=Leftovers
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|move1=Faint Attack|move1type=Dark
|move2=Psychic|move2type=Psychic
|move3=Confuse Ray|move3type=Ghost
|move4=Body Slam|move4type=Normal}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=292
|pokemon=Shedinja
|type1=Bug|type2=Ghost
|ability=Wonder Guard
|held=BrightPowder
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|move1=Shadow Ball|move1type=Ghost
|move2=Return|move2type=Normal
|move3=Aerial Ace|move3type=Flying
|move4=Confuse Ray|move4type=Ghost}}
{{Party/Footer}}

====Gold Symbol challenge====
{{Party/Single
|color={{frontier color}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|headcolor={{frontier color light}}
|sprite=Spr E Greta.png
|prize=13{{color2|000|Battle Point|BP}}
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|classlink=Greta
|name=Greta
|game=E
|location=Battle Arena
|pokemon=3}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=197
|pokemon=Umbreon
|gender=both
|type1=Dark
|ability=Synchronize
|held=Chesto Berry
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|move1=Double-Edge|move1type=Normal
|move2=Psychic|move2type=Psychic
|move3=Confuse Ray|move3type=Ghost
|move4=Rest|move4type=Psychic}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=094
|pokemon=Gengar
|gender=both
|type1=Ghost|type2=Poison
|ability=Levitate
|held=Leftovers
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic
|move2=Hypnosis|move2type=Psychic
|move3=Dream Eater|move3type=Psychic
|move4=Destiny Bond|move4type=Ghost}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=286
|pokemon=Breloom
|gender=both
|type1=Grass
|type2=Fighting
|ability=Effect Spore
|held=Lum Berry
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|move1=Focus Punch|move1type=Fighting
|move2=Spore|move2type=Grass
|move3=Giga Drain|move3type=Grass
|move4=Headbutt|move4type=Normal}}
{{Party/Footer}}

===Quotes===
;Initial battle
* Before battle
:''"Hey! Howdy! ...Wait, are you the challenger?"''
:''"Is this right? Hmm... Hmhm...''"
:''"I don't know how to say it, but... To put it bluntly, you look pretty weak. Are you sure you're up for me? Hmm... Well, all right! We'll take things easy to start with! Okay! Let's see you ignite my passion for battle!"''

* Being defeated
:''"No way! Good job!"''

* If the player is defeated
:''"Oh, come on! You have to try harder than that!''

* After being defeated
:''"Ow, wait a second! You are tough after all! I like you! Let's see your <sc>Frontier Pass</sc>."''
:''"It's going to be fun the next time! I'm looking forward to it!"''

;Rematch
* Before battle
:''"Hey! Howdy! You finally won your way up to me! I was getting worried waiting for you! I was really looking forward to seeing you again!"''
:''"... ... ... So, are you ready?"''
:''"I won't allow a halfhearted effort! Be ready for a thrashing! Come on, referee! Let's get this started!"''

* Being defeated
:''"Huh? Are you serious?!"''

* If the player is defeated
:''"Heheh! What did you expect?"''

* After being defeated
:''"Gaaah! Blown away! Let's see your <sc>Frontier Pass</sc>!"''
:''"Arrrgh! This is so infuriating! If we ever battle again, I won't lose! Don't you forget it! Bye-bye!"

===Sprites===
{| style="margin:auto; text-align:center; {{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background:#{{frontier color}}; font-size:80%"
|-
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border:2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background:#{{frontier color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Spr E Greta.png]]
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border:2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background:#{{frontier color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Greta OD.png]]
|-
| Sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
| Overworld sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
|}

==In the anime==
[[File:Greta anime.png|thumb|250px|Greta in the {{pkmn|anime}}]]
Greta appeared in ''[[AG149|Wheel of Frontier]]''. As in {{game|Emerald}}, she is the [[Frontier Brain]] of the [[Battle Arena]], and runs a karate dojo where she trains alongside her dozens of apprentices. Unlike the {{pkmn|games}}, however, she is a {{type|Fighting}} [[Type expert|expert]]. Before a {{pkmn|battle}}, a wheel is spun to decide how many Pokémon will be used in the match. While the matches are Single Battles, the other Pokémon that are intended to be used remain outside of their [[Poké Ball]]s until they faint.

{{Ash}} spun a two-on-two match. His {{AP|Grovyle}} was defeated by Greta's {{p|Hariyama}} in the first round. [[Ash's Snorlax]], using its impressive endurance and equally powerful attacks, went on to defeat both of Greta's Pokémon despite the type disadvantage and earn Ash the [[Symbol|Guts Symbol]].

She reappeared in a flashback in ''[[DP128|A Pyramiding Rage!]]''.

===Character===
Greta, like {{Ash}}, is a high-spirited individual and very passionate about [[Pokémon battle]]s. Like her role models [[Chuck]] and [[Brawly]], she continues to train her focus in order to improve her strength.

Speed-based strategies work poorly against Greta's team, and they actually help magnify her Pokémon's attacks. Her Pokémon's own speed and relentless [[physical move]]s make Greta a tough opponent. However, her Pokémon are weak to attacks from above or behind. They also tend to suffer severe injuries whenever they miss their target.

===Pokémon===
This listing is of Greta's known Pokémon in the anime:
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Greta
|pkmn=Hariyama
|type1=Fighting
|epnum=AG149
|epname=Wheel of Frontier
|vajp=Unshō Ishizuka
|vaen=Bill Rogers
|img=Greta Hariyama.png
|desc={{p|Hariyama}} was the first Pokémon used by Greta in her {{pkmn|battle}} with {{Ash}}, where it first battled with {{AP|Grovyle}}. Despite Grovyle managing to outmatch Hariyama in speed and dealing some damage on it, Greta was finally able to use Grovyle's momentum as her own advantage, and land a critical hit on the Wood Gecko Pokémon, knocking it out.

Ash next used his {{AP|Snorlax}} against the Arm Thrust Pokémon. Despite having disadvantage in [[type]], {{p|Snorlax}} was able to keep itself safe from Hariyama's attacks by using {{m|Protect}}. Eventually, one of Hariyama's Arm Thrusts missed its opponent and it instead punched the battlefield, leaving it with a sore hand. It was {{status|Freeze|frozen}} solid and knocked out with an {{m|Ice Punch}}.

Hariyama's known moves are {{m|Arm Thrust}} and {{m|Focus Punch}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Greta
|pkmn=Medicham
|type1=Fighting
|type2=Psychic
|epnum=AG149
|epname=Wheel of Frontier
|vajp=Megumi Hayashibara
|vaen=Sarah Natochenny
|img=Greta Medicham.png
|desc=Greta chose {{p|Medicham}}, along with her {{p|Hariyama}} to battle {{Ash}} in ''[[AG149|Wheel of Frontier]]''. It was the second to go up after Hariyama was defeated by [[Ash's Snorlax]]. Medicham overwhelmed Snorlax with its astounding speed and agility. With Ice Punch, Medicham was able to {{status|freeze}} Snorlax, giving Greta a huge advantage.

Ash then commanded Snorlax to use {{m|Rest}}, and Greta told Medicham to attack Snorlax with repeated Focus Punches in order to break the ice. Greta told Medicham to use {{m|High Jump Kick}} but Snorlax managed to dodge it, causing Medicham to take [[crash damage]]. Snorlax then tried to attack it with a {{m|Hyper Beam}}, but Medicham evaded it and retaliated with {{m|Focus Punch}}.

Just then, Ash commanded Snorlax to use Hyper Beam on the ground, which catapulted it into the air. Using its altitude to his advantage, Ash told it to attack with a full-on {{m|Body Slam}}, defeating Medicham and earning Ash the [[Symbol|Guts Symbol]].

It reappeared in a flashback in ''[[DP128|A Pyramiding Rage!]]''.

Medicham's known moves are {{m|Focus Punch}}, {{m|Ice Punch}}, and {{m|High Jump Kick}}.}}

Greta has at least one other Pokémon, as one of the options for her battle wheel was to participate in a three-on-three battle.

===Voice actors===
{{vatable|color={{frontier color}}|bordercolor={{frontier color light}}
|ja=小林沙苗 ''[[Sanae Kobayashi]]''
|en=[[Sonny Dey]]
|hi=सबीना मलिक मौसम ''Sabina Malik Mausum'' (Marvel HQ/Hungama TV)
|pt_br=Samira Fernandes
|es_la=Mildred Barrera
|es_eu=Silvia Sarmentera}}

==In the manga==
===Ash & Pikachu===
[[File:Greta AP.png|thumb|200px|Greta in Ash & Pikachu]]
Greta appeared in ''[[SP34|An Awesome Showdown!!]]'', where she, like in the anime, battled {{Ash}} at the [[Battle Arena]] and lost.

====Pokémon====
{{TrainerPoké
|width=74
|trainer=Greta
|pkmn=Medicham
|type1=Fighting
|type2=Psychic
|img=Greta Medicham AP.png
|epnum=SP34
|epname=An Awesome Showdown!!
|desc={{p|Medicham}} is Greta's only known Pokémon. It was sent out to battle [[Ash's Snorlax]] and lost.

Medicham's known moves are {{m|Focus Punch}}, {{m|Ice Punch}}, and {{m|High Jump Kick}}.}}

===Pokémon Adventures===
[[File:Greta Adventures.png|thumb|230px|Greta in [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]
====History====
====={{chap|Emerald}}=====
Greta is one of the seven {{pkmn|Trainer}}s hired by Scott to be a Frontier Brain at the {{gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}. Greta is first seen hosting the Battle Frontier's opening ceremony. The ceremony is interrupted by {{adv|Emerald}}, who announces that he wishes to conquer the Battle Frontier. The press mistakenly report the incident as allowing an ordinary Trainer to take part in the Battle Frontier before it officially opens a week later. The Frontier Brains decide to use this assumption as free publicity and allow Emerald to challenge the Battle Frontier under the condition that he completes it before it officially opens.

Later, while Emerald is challenging the [[Battle Pyramid]], Noland is attacked by an unknown assailant and several rental Pokémon are stolen. After Noland is taken to a hospital, the other Frontier Brains begin to suspect Emerald as the culprit. They head to the Battle Pyramid to confront Emerald and find him after having defeated Brandon. When they ask him about what happened, Emerald reveals that he did not attack Noland and is actually after the Mythical Pokémon {{adv|Jirachi}}. The Frontier Brains find Emerald's explanation suspicious, but decide to follow him into [[Artisan Cave]], where Jirachi is currently located at. Upon arriving, everyone is attacked by a horde of wild {{p|Smeargle}} while Emerald continues inside to find Jirachi. After the Frontier Brains get past the Smeargle, they meet up with Emerald, who has managed to find Jirachi. Emerald attempts to capture Jirachi, but is attacked by [[Guile Hideout]], the actual culprit who attacked Noland.

Emerald is attacked by Guile's stolen rental Pokémon, but he refuses to fight them and continues to head after Jirachi. When Greta sees this, she angrily tells Emerald that stopping Guile is more important than Jirachi and goes off to help the others. When Spenser, Lucy, Tucker, and Brandon are defeated by Guile, Greta steps in to help and defeats the rental Pokémon. Eventually, Jirachi escapes, forcing Guile to leave to continue his pursuit of it. Injured from the battle, everyone decides to return to the Battle Frontier. Upon arriving, the press demand to know where the Frontier Brain's had gone and why they were injured. Tucker lies to everyone that they were all in training and sends Greta to have her battle with Emerald.

At the [[Battle Arena]], Greta is Emerald's fourth opponent, and Emerald is allowed to battle her directly. Both sides fight hard, but Emerald eventually emerges as the victor, earning himself the Guts Symbol in the process. The battle leaves Emerald so exhausted that he and his Pokémon fall asleep. Greta brings Emerald and his Pokémon to the Battle Frontier's accommodations to sleep properly. When Greta and [[Todd Snap|reporter Todd]] undress Emerald to make his sleep more comfortable, they are shocked to find that Emerald is much shorter than he initially appears. Todd kicks Greta out of the room and asks her to pretend she saw nothing.

The next day, Greta assists the other Frontier Brains in ushering people to the [[Battle Dome]]. During the tournament, Guile appears and manages to capture Jirachi. Guile uses the rental Pokémon to the attack innocent bystanders and heads to the {{gdis|Battle Tower|III}} to make his wish. Once he arrives at the Battle Tower, Guile uses Jirachi to wish for a gigantic Kyogre made of seawater to flood the entire Battle Frontier. Greta and the other Frontier Brains work together to get civilians to safety and fight off Guile's rental Pokémon while Emerald and the other Pokédex holders fight Guile. Eventually Emerald and the Pokédex holders manage to defeat Guile and destroy the gigantic Kyogre monster. The day after, an injured Greta and the other Frontier Brains congratulate Emerald for the hard work he put into saving everyone.

====={{chap|Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire}}=====
Greta and the other Hoenn Frontier Brains battle and defeat the Admins of Neo [[Team Magma]] and Neo [[Team Aqua]], who had interfered in the launch of a rocket that was made to stop the [[Grand Meteor Delta|meteoroid]] threatening to destroy the world. Greta attempts to interrogate the Admins on the location of their accomplice, [[Zinnia]], only for the Admins to deny knowing where she had gone.

====Pokémon====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Greta
|pkmn=Umbreon
|type1=Dark
|img=Greta Umbreon Adventures.png
|epnum=PS304
|epname=Swanky Showdown with Swalot
|desc={{p|Umbreon}} is Greta's first known Pokémon. It was first seen at the {{gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}'s opening ceremony alongside its Trainer. At Artisan Cave, it was used to battle Guile's army of stolen rental Pokémon. At the [[Battle Arena]], Greta used Umbreon as her second Pokémon. It managed to defeat [[Emerald's Dusclops]], but was defeated by his {{TP|Emerald|Sudowoodo}}.

Umbreon's known moves are {{m|Quick Attack}}, {{m|Double Team}}, {{m|Feint Attack}}, and {{m|Confuse Ray}}, and its Ability is {{a|Synchronize}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Greta
|pkmn=Shedinja
|type1=Bug
|type2=Ghost
|img=Greta Shedinja Adventures.png
|epnum=PS317
|epname=Sneaky Like Shedinja
|desc={{p|Shedinja}} is Greta's second known Pokémon. It was first used at the [[Battle Arena]] to battle Emerald. There, it was the third Pokémon Greta used and battled Emerald's Sudowoodo. Despite its single hit point, Shedinja managed to defend against Sudowoodo's super-effective hits and fight back. Despite this, Sudowoodo survived Shedinja's attacks, allowing it to win via assessment.

Shedinja's known moves are {{m|Endure}} and {{m|Solar Beam}}, and its Ability is {{a|Wonder Guard}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Greta
|pkmn=Heracross
|type1=Bug
|type2=Fighting
|img=Greta Heracross Adventures.png
|epnum=PS317
|epname=Sneaky Like Shedinja
|desc={{p|Heracross}} is Greta's third known Pokémon. It was first used at the [[Battle Arena]] to battle Emerald. There, it was the first Pokémon Greta used and battle [[Emerald's Sceptile]]. Although Sceptile survived Heracross's Megahorn, it was defeated via assessment afterward.

Heracross's only known move is {{m|Megahorn}}.}}

==Trivia==
* Greta is the only female [[Frontier Brain]] of the [[Battle Frontier (Generation III)|Hoenn Battle Frontier]] who did not gain a crush on one of the {{ashfr|main characters}} in the {{pkmn|anime}}.

==Names==
{| class="roundy" style="float:left; background: #{{frontier color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{frontier color}}"
|- style="text-align:center"
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Language
! Name
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Origin
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Japanese
| コゴミ ''Kogomi''
| From 屈 ''kogomi'' ({{wp|ostrich fern}})
|- style="background:#FFF"
| English
| Greta
| From ''guts'' or ''great''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| German
| Greta
| From ''grob'' (coarse)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Spanish
| Coro
| From ''coraje'' (courage)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| French
| Carole
| From ''cran'' (guts)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Italian
| Valentina
| From ''valore'' (valor)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Korean
| 나리 ''Nari''
| From 청나래고사리 ''cheongnarae-gosari'' (ostrich fern)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and Mainland China}})
| 黃瓜香 / 黄瓜香 ''Huángguāxiāng''
| rowspan="2" | From 黃瓜香 / 黄瓜香 ''huángguāxiāng / wòhnggwāhēung'' (ostrich fern)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Cantonese|Hong Kong}})
| 黃瓜香 ''Wòhnggwāhēung''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Vietnamese
| Kogomi
| Transcription of her Japanese name
|}
{{-}}
===Arena Tycoon===
{{langtable|color={{frontier color light}}|bordercolor={{frontier color}}
|ja=アリーナキャプテン ''Arena Captain''
|zh_yue=競技場主將 ''{{tt|Gihnggeihchèuhng Jyújeung|Arena Captain}}''
|zh_cmn=競技場主將 / 竞技场主将 ''{{tt|Jìngjìchǎng Zhǔjiàng|Arena Captain}}''
|fi=Areenapäällikkö
|fr_eu=Pro du Dojo
|de=Ringmeister
|it=Maestra Dojo
|ko=아레나캡틴 ''Arena Captain''
|pt_br=Comandante da Arena
|es_eu=Maestra Dojo
|es_la=Maestra del Dojo
|vi=Đội trưởng của Sân vận động
}}

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* [[a:Category:Greta|Images on the Bulbagarden Archives]]
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Greta

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{{CharInfobox
|color={{frontier color}}
|corecolor={{frontier color light}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|name=Greta
|jname=コゴミ
|tmname=Kogomi
|image=Emerald Greta.png
|size=200px
|caption=Art from Emerald
|gender=Female
|colors=yes
|eyes=Blue
|hair=Blonde
|hometown=Unknown
|region=[[Hoenn]][[Pokémon Emerald Version|*]]/[[Kanto]][[Pokémon anime|*]]
|relatives=Unknown
|trainer=yes
|trainerclass=[[Frontier Brain|Arena Tycoon (Frontier Brain)]]
|game=yes
|generation={{Gen|III}}
|games={{game|Emerald}}
|leader=no
|brain=yes
|facility=[[Battle Arena]]
|symbol=Guts Symbol
|specialist=yes
|type={{t|Fighting}} types{{tt|*|Anime only}}
|anime=yes
|epnum=AG149
|epname=Wheel of Frontier!
|enva=[[Sonny Dey]]
|java=[[Sanae Kobayashi]]
}}
'''Greta''' (Japanese: '''コゴミ''' ''Kogomi'') is the [[Frontier Brain]] and leader of the {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}'s [[Battle Arena]]. She is the only character in the games to have the {{DL|Pokémon Trainer|Trainer class}} '''Arena Tycoon''' (Japanese: '''アリーナキャプテン''' ''Arena Captain'').

==In the games==
Greta can be blunt, and if an opponent looks weak, she will let them know. She likes tough Trainers and will gladly hand over the Guts Symbol if defeated.

===Pokémon===
====Silver Symbol challenge====
{{Party/Single
|color={{frontier color}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|headcolor={{frontier color light}}
|sprite=Spr E Greta.png
|prize=12{{color2|000|Battle Point|BP}}
|class=Arena Tycoon
|classlink=Greta
|name=Greta
|game=E
|location=Battle Arena
|pokemon=3}}{{lop/facility/head|{{frontier color light}}|{{frontier color dark}}|{{frontier color}}}}
{{lop/facility|game=3|214|Heracross|Salac Berry|Megahorn|Bug|Rock Tomb|Rock|Endure|Normal|Reversal|Fighting|Jolly|106|152||||100|152}}
{{lop/facility|game=3|197|Umbreon|Leftovers|Body Slam|Normal|Confuse Ray|Ghost|Psychic|Psychic|Faint Attack|Dark|Calm|152||100|152|106}}
{{lop/facility|game=3|292|Shedinja|BrightPowder|Shdaow Ball|Ghost|Return|Normal|Confuse Ray|Ghost|Aerial Ace|Flying|Adamant||252|6|||252}}
{{Party/Footer}}

====Gold Symbol challenge====
{{Party/Single
|color={{frontier color}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|headcolor={{frontier color light}}
|sprite=Spr E Greta.png
|prize=13{{color2|000|Battle Point|BP}}
|class=Arena Tycoon
|classlink=Greta
|name=Greta
|game=E
|location=Battle Arena
|pokemon=3}}
{{lop/facility/head|{{frontier color light}}|{{frontier color dark}}|{{frontier color}}}}
{{lop/facility|game=3|197|Umbreon|Chesto Berry|Double-Edge|Normal|Confuse Ray|Ghost|Rest|Psychic|Psychic|Psychic|Calm|252|||252|6}}
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===Quotes===
;Initial battle
* Before battle
:''"Hey! Howdy! ...Wait, are you the challenger?"''
:''"Is this right? Hmm... Hmhm...''"
:''"I don't know how to say it, but... To put it bluntly, you look pretty weak. Are you sure you're up for me? Hmm... Well, all right! We'll take things easy to start with! Okay! Let's see you ignite my passion for battle!"''

* Being defeated
:''"No way! Good job!"''

* If the player is defeated
:''"Oh, come on! You have to try harder than that!''

* After being defeated
:''"Ow, wait a second! You are tough after all! I like you! Let's see your <sc>Frontier Pass</sc>."''
:''"It's going to be fun the next time! I'm looking forward to it!"''

;Rematch
* Before battle
:''"Hey! Howdy! You finally won your way up to me! I was getting worried waiting for you! I was really looking forward to seeing you again!"''
:''"... ... ... So, are you ready?"''
:''"I won't allow a halfhearted effort! Be ready for a thrashing! Come on, referee! Let's get this started!"''

* Being defeated
:''"Huh? Are you serious?!"''

* If the player is defeated
:''"Heheh! What did you expect?"''

* After being defeated
:''"Gaaah! Blown away! Let's see your <sc>Frontier Pass</sc>!"''
:''"Arrrgh! This is so infuriating! If we ever battle again, I won't lose! Don't you forget it! Bye-bye!"

===Sprites===
{| style="margin:auto; text-align:center; {{roundy|20px}} border:2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background:#{{frontier color}}; font-size:80%"
|-
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border:2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background:#{{frontier color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Spr E Greta.png]]
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border:2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background:#{{frontier color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Greta OD.png]]
|-
| Sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
| Overworld sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
|}

==In the anime==
[[File:Greta anime.png|thumb|250px|Greta in the {{pkmn|anime}}]]
Greta appeared in ''[[AG149|Wheel of Frontier]]''. As in {{game|Emerald}}, she is the [[Frontier Brain]] of the [[Battle Arena]], and runs a karate dojo where she trains alongside her dozens of apprentices. Unlike the {{pkmn|games}}, however, she is a {{type|Fighting}} [[Type expert|expert]]. Before a {{pkmn|battle}}, a wheel is spun to decide how many Pokémon will be used in the match. While the matches are Single Battles, the other Pokémon that are intended to be used remain outside of their [[Poké Ball]]s until they faint.

{{Ash}} spun a two-on-two match. His {{AP|Grovyle}} was defeated by Greta's {{p|Hariyama}} in the first round. [[Ash's Snorlax]], using its impressive endurance and equally powerful attacks, went on to defeat both of Greta's Pokémon despite the type disadvantage and earn Ash the [[Symbol|Guts Symbol]].

She reappeared in a flashback in ''[[DP128|A Pyramiding Rage!]]''.

===Character===
Greta, like {{Ash}}, is a high-spirited individual and very passionate about [[Pokémon battle]]s. Like her role models [[Chuck]] and [[Brawly]], she continues to train her focus in order to improve her strength.

Speed-based strategies work poorly against Greta's team, and they actually help magnify her Pokémon's attacks. Her Pokémon's own speed and relentless [[physical move]]s make Greta a tough opponent. However, her Pokémon are weak to attacks from above or behind. They also tend to suffer severe injuries whenever they miss their target.

===Pokémon===
This listing is of Greta's known Pokémon in the anime:
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Greta
|pkmn=Hariyama
|type1=Fighting
|epnum=AG149
|epname=Wheel of Frontier
|vajp=Unshō Ishizuka
|vaen=Bill Rogers
|img=Greta Hariyama.png
|desc={{p|Hariyama}} was the first Pokémon used by Greta in her {{pkmn|battle}} with {{Ash}}, where it first battled with {{AP|Grovyle}}. Despite Grovyle managing to outmatch Hariyama in speed and dealing some damage on it, Greta was finally able to use Grovyle's momentum as her own advantage, and land a critical hit on the Wood Gecko Pokémon, knocking it out.

Ash next used his {{AP|Snorlax}} against the Arm Thrust Pokémon. Despite having disadvantage in [[type]], {{p|Snorlax}} was able to keep itself safe from Hariyama's attacks by using {{m|Protect}}. Eventually, one of Hariyama's Arm Thrusts missed its opponent and it instead punched the battlefield, leaving it with a sore hand. It was {{status|Freeze|frozen}} solid and knocked out with an {{m|Ice Punch}}.

Hariyama's known moves are {{m|Arm Thrust}} and {{m|Focus Punch}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Greta
|pkmn=Medicham
|type1=Fighting
|type2=Psychic
|epnum=AG149
|epname=Wheel of Frontier
|vajp=Megumi Hayashibara
|vaen=Sarah Natochenny
|img=Greta Medicham.png
|desc=Greta chose {{p|Medicham}}, along with her {{p|Hariyama}} to battle {{Ash}} in ''[[AG149|Wheel of Frontier]]''. It was the second to go up after Hariyama was defeated by [[Ash's Snorlax]]. Medicham overwhelmed Snorlax with its astounding speed and agility. With Ice Punch, Medicham was able to {{status|freeze}} Snorlax, giving Greta a huge advantage.

Ash then commanded Snorlax to use {{m|Rest}}, and Greta told Medicham to attack Snorlax with repeated Focus Punches in order to break the ice. Greta told Medicham to use {{m|High Jump Kick}} but Snorlax managed to dodge it, causing Medicham to take [[crash damage]]. Snorlax then tried to attack it with a {{m|Hyper Beam}}, but Medicham evaded it and retaliated with {{m|Focus Punch}}.

Just then, Ash commanded Snorlax to use Hyper Beam on the ground, which catapulted it into the air. Using its altitude to his advantage, Ash told it to attack with a full-on {{m|Body Slam}}, defeating Medicham and earning Ash the [[Symbol|Guts Symbol]].

It reappeared in a flashback in ''[[DP128|A Pyramiding Rage!]]''.

Medicham's known moves are {{m|Focus Punch}}, {{m|Ice Punch}}, and {{m|High Jump Kick}}.}}

Greta has at least one other Pokémon, as one of the options for her battle wheel was to participate in a three-on-three battle.

===Voice actors===
{{vatable|color={{frontier color}}|bordercolor={{frontier color light}}
|ja=小林沙苗 ''[[Sanae Kobayashi]]''
|en=[[Sonny Dey]]
|hi=सबीना मलिक मौसम ''Sabina Malik Mausum'' (Marvel HQ/Hungama TV)
|pt_br=Samira Fernandes
|es_la=Mildred Barrera
|es_eu=Silvia Sarmentera}}

==In the manga==
===Ash & Pikachu===
[[File:Greta AP.png|thumb|200px|Greta in Ash & Pikachu]]
Greta appeared in ''[[SP34|An Awesome Showdown!!]]'', where she, like in the anime, battled {{Ash}} at the [[Battle Arena]] and lost.

====Pokémon====
{{TrainerPoké
|width=74
|trainer=Greta
|pkmn=Medicham
|type1=Fighting
|type2=Psychic
|img=Greta Medicham AP.png
|epnum=SP34
|epname=An Awesome Showdown!!
|desc={{p|Medicham}} is Greta's only known Pokémon. It was sent out to battle [[Ash's Snorlax]] and lost.

Medicham's known moves are {{m|Focus Punch}}, {{m|Ice Punch}}, and {{m|High Jump Kick}}.}}

===Pokémon Adventures===
[[File:Greta Adventures.png|thumb|230px|Greta in [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]
====History====
====={{chap|Emerald}}=====
Greta is one of the seven {{pkmn|Trainer}}s hired by Scott to be a Frontier Brain at the {{gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}. Greta is first seen hosting the Battle Frontier's opening ceremony. The ceremony is interrupted by {{adv|Emerald}}, who announces that he wishes to conquer the Battle Frontier. The press mistakenly report the incident as allowing an ordinary Trainer to take part in the Battle Frontier before it officially opens a week later. The Frontier Brains decide to use this assumption as free publicity and allow Emerald to challenge the Battle Frontier under the condition that he completes it before it officially opens.

Later, while Emerald is challenging the [[Battle Pyramid]], Noland is attacked by an unknown assailant and several rental Pokémon are stolen. After Noland is taken to a hospital, the other Frontier Brains begin to suspect Emerald as the culprit. They head to the Battle Pyramid to confront Emerald and find him after having defeated Brandon. When they ask him about what happened, Emerald reveals that he did not attack Noland and is actually after the Mythical Pokémon {{adv|Jirachi}}. The Frontier Brains find Emerald's explanation suspicious, but decide to follow him into [[Artisan Cave]], where Jirachi is currently located at. Upon arriving, everyone is attacked by a horde of wild {{p|Smeargle}} while Emerald continues inside to find Jirachi. After the Frontier Brains get past the Smeargle, they meet up with Emerald, who has managed to find Jirachi. Emerald attempts to capture Jirachi, but is attacked by [[Guile Hideout]], the actual culprit who attacked Noland.

Emerald is attacked by Guile's stolen rental Pokémon, but he refuses to fight them and continues to head after Jirachi. When Greta sees this, she angrily tells Emerald that stopping Guile is more important than Jirachi and goes off to help the others. When Spenser, Lucy, Tucker, and Brandon are defeated by Guile, Greta steps in to help and defeats the rental Pokémon. Eventually, Jirachi escapes, forcing Guile to leave to continue his pursuit of it. Injured from the battle, everyone decides to return to the Battle Frontier. Upon arriving, the press demand to know where the Frontier Brain's had gone and why they were injured. Tucker lies to everyone that they were all in training and sends Greta to have her battle with Emerald.

At the [[Battle Arena]], Greta is Emerald's fourth opponent, and Emerald is allowed to battle her directly. Both sides fight hard, but Emerald eventually emerges as the victor, earning himself the Guts Symbol in the process. The battle leaves Emerald so exhausted that he and his Pokémon fall asleep. Greta brings Emerald and his Pokémon to the Battle Frontier's accommodations to sleep properly. When Greta and [[Todd Snap|reporter Todd]] undress Emerald to make his sleep more comfortable, they are shocked to find that Emerald is much shorter than he initially appears. Todd kicks Greta out of the room and asks her to pretend she saw nothing.

The next day, Greta assists the other Frontier Brains in ushering people to the [[Battle Dome]]. During the tournament, Guile appears and manages to capture Jirachi. Guile uses the rental Pokémon to the attack innocent bystanders and heads to the {{gdis|Battle Tower|III}} to make his wish. Once he arrives at the Battle Tower, Guile uses Jirachi to wish for a gigantic Kyogre made of seawater to flood the entire Battle Frontier. Greta and the other Frontier Brains work together to get civilians to safety and fight off Guile's rental Pokémon while Emerald and the other Pokédex holders fight Guile. Eventually Emerald and the Pokédex holders manage to defeat Guile and destroy the gigantic Kyogre monster. The day after, an injured Greta and the other Frontier Brains congratulate Emerald for the hard work he put into saving everyone.

====={{chap|Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire}}=====
Greta and the other Hoenn Frontier Brains battle and defeat the Admins of Neo [[Team Magma]] and Neo [[Team Aqua]], who had interfered in the launch of a rocket that was made to stop the [[Grand Meteor Delta|meteoroid]] threatening to destroy the world. Greta attempts to interrogate the Admins on the location of their accomplice, [[Zinnia]], only for the Admins to deny knowing where she had gone.

====Pokémon====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Greta
|pkmn=Umbreon
|type1=Dark
|img=Greta Umbreon Adventures.png
|epnum=PS304
|epname=Swanky Showdown with Swalot
|desc={{p|Umbreon}} is Greta's first known Pokémon. It was first seen at the {{gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}'s opening ceremony alongside its Trainer. At Artisan Cave, it was used to battle Guile's army of stolen rental Pokémon. At the [[Battle Arena]], Greta used Umbreon as her second Pokémon. It managed to defeat [[Emerald's Dusclops]], but was defeated by his {{TP|Emerald|Sudowoodo}}.

Umbreon's known moves are {{m|Quick Attack}}, {{m|Double Team}}, {{m|Feint Attack}}, and {{m|Confuse Ray}}, and its Ability is {{a|Synchronize}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Greta
|pkmn=Shedinja
|type1=Bug
|type2=Ghost
|img=Greta Shedinja Adventures.png
|epnum=PS317
|epname=Sneaky Like Shedinja
|desc={{p|Shedinja}} is Greta's second known Pokémon. It was first used at the [[Battle Arena]] to battle Emerald. There, it was the third Pokémon Greta used and battled Emerald's Sudowoodo. Despite its single hit point, Shedinja managed to defend against Sudowoodo's super-effective hits and fight back. Despite this, Sudowoodo survived Shedinja's attacks, allowing it to win via assessment.

Shedinja's known moves are {{m|Endure}} and {{m|Solar Beam}}, and its Ability is {{a|Wonder Guard}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Greta
|pkmn=Heracross
|type1=Bug
|type2=Fighting
|img=Greta Heracross Adventures.png
|epnum=PS317
|epname=Sneaky Like Shedinja
|desc={{p|Heracross}} is Greta's third known Pokémon. It was first used at the [[Battle Arena]] to battle Emerald. There, it was the first Pokémon Greta used and battle [[Emerald's Sceptile]]. Although Sceptile survived Heracross's Megahorn, it was defeated via assessment afterward.

Heracross's only known move is {{m|Megahorn}}.}}

==Trivia==
* Greta is the only female [[Frontier Brain]] of the [[Battle Frontier (Generation III)|Hoenn Battle Frontier]] who did not gain a crush on one of the {{ashfr|main characters}} in the {{pkmn|anime}}.

==Names==
{| class="roundy" style="float:left; background: #{{frontier color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{frontier color}}"
|- style="text-align:center"
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Language
! Name
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Origin
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Japanese
| コゴミ ''Kogomi''
| From 屈 ''kogomi'' ({{wp|ostrich fern}})
|- style="background:#FFF"
| English
| Greta
| From ''guts'' or ''great''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| German
| Greta
| From ''grob'' (coarse)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Spanish
| Coro
| From ''coraje'' (courage)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| French
| Carole
| From ''cran'' (guts)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Italian
| Valentina
| From ''valore'' (valor)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Korean
| 나리 ''Nari''
| From 청나래고사리 ''cheongnarae-gosari'' (ostrich fern)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and Mainland China}})
| 黃瓜香 / 黄瓜香 ''Huángguāxiāng''
| rowspan="2" | From 黃瓜香 / 黄瓜香 ''huángguāxiāng / wòhnggwāhēung'' (ostrich fern)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Cantonese|Hong Kong}})
| 黃瓜香 ''Wòhnggwāhēung''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Vietnamese
| Kogomi
| Transcription of her Japanese name
|}
{{-}}
===Arena Tycoon===
{{langtable|color={{frontier color light}}|bordercolor={{frontier color}}
|ja=アリーナキャプテン ''Arena Captain''
|zh_yue=競技場主將 ''{{tt|Gihnggeihchèuhng Jyújeung|Arena Captain}}''
|zh_cmn=競技場主將 / 竞技场主将 ''{{tt|Jìngjìchǎng Zhǔjiàng|Arena Captain}}''
|fi=Areenapäällikkö
|fr_eu=Pro du Dojo
|de=Ringmeister
|it=Maestra Dojo
|ko=아레나캡틴 ''Arena Captain''
|pt_br=Comandante da Arena
|es_eu=Maestra Dojo
|es_la=Maestra del Dojo
|vi=Đội trưởng của Sân vận động
}}

==Related articles==
* [[a:Category:Greta|Images on the Bulbagarden Archives]]
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{{TrainerNav|Frontier|hoenn=yes}} 
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[[it:Valentina]]
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Lucy

2022-02-27T20:18:12Z

Strawhatroger: Undo revision 3483812 by Eridanus (talk)

{{samename|main character of [[Pokémon Trozei!]]|Lucy Fleetfoot}}
{{samename|character from the movie ''{{mov|Detective Pikachu}}''|Lucy Stevens}}
{{CharInfobox
|color={{frontier color}}
|corecolor={{frontier color light}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|name=Lucy
|jname=アザミ
|tmname=Azami
|image=Emerald Pike Queen Lucy.png
|size=175px
|caption=Art from Emerald
|gender=Female
|colors=yes
|eyes=Red
|hair=Black and red
|hometown=Unknown
|region=[[Hoenn]]{{game3|Emerald|*}}/[[Kanto]][[Pokémon anime|*]]
|relatives=[[Barbara]] (sister){{tt|*|dub only}}
|trainer=yes
|trainerclass=[[Frontier Brain|Pike Queen (Frontier Brain)]]
|game=yes
|generation={{Gen|III}}, {{Gen|VII}}
|games={{game|Emerald}}, {{pkmn|Masters EX}}
|leader=no
|brain=yes
|facility=[[Battle Pike]]
|symbol=Luck Symbol
|anime=yes
|epnum=AG158
|epname=Queen of the Serpentine
|enva=[[Emily Williams|Emlyn Morinelli]]
|java=[[Atsuko Tanaka]]
|gameanim=yes
|envagame=Unknown ({{pkmn|Masters EX}})
|javagame=Unknown ({{pkmn|Masters EX}})
}}

'''Lucy''' (Japanese: '''アザミ''' ''Azami'') is the [[Frontier Brain]] and law-keeper of the {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}'s [[Battle Pike]]. Her costume is made to look like a {{p|Seviper}}, her signature Pokémon. She is the only character in the games to have the {{DL|Pokémon Trainer|Trainer class}} '''Pike Queen''' (Japanese: '''チューブクイーン''' ''Tube Queen'').

==In the core series==
Lucy "trampled flowers and braved storms" to reach her position. She is encountered at two and ten consecutive wins at the Battle Pike for the silver and gold Luck Symbol respectively. She isn't one for idle chatter, preferring to go right into battle. When she's defeated, she prefers her opponent to hurry and move along.

===Pokémon===
====Silver Symbol challenge====
{{Party/Single
|color={{frontier color}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|headcolor={{frontier color light}}
|sprite=Spr E Lucy.png
|prize=11{{color2|000|Battle Point|BP}}
|class=Pike Queen
|classlink=Lucy
|name=Lucy
|game=E
|location=Battle Pike
|pokemon=3
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=336
|pokemon=Seviper
|gender=both
|ability=Shed Skin
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|type1=Poison
|held=Quick Claw
|move1=Poison Fang|move1type=Poison
|move2=Crunch|move2type=Dark
|move3=Giga Drain|move3type=Grass
|move4=Swagger|move4type=Normal}}

|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=213
|pokemon=Shuckle
|gender=both
|ability=Sturdy
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|type1=Bug|type2=Rock
|held=Chesto Berry
|move1=Toxic|move1type=Poison
|move2=Sandstorm|move2type=Rock
|move3=Protect|move3type=Normal
|move4=Rest|move4type=Psychic}}

|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=350
|pokemon=Milotic
|gender=both
|ability=Marvel Scale
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|type1=Water
|held=Leftovers
|move1=Surf|move1type=Water
|move2=Mirror Coat|move2type=Psychic
|move3=Ice Beam|move3type=Ice
|move4=Recover|move4type=Normal}}
{{Party/Footer}}

====Gold Symbol challenge====
{{Party/Single
|color={{frontier color}}
|bordercolor={{frontier color dark}}
|headcolor={{frontier color light}}
|sprite=Spr E Lucy.png
|prize=18{{color2|000|Battle Point|BP}}
|class=Pike Queen
|classlink=Lucy
|name=Lucy
|game=E
|location=Battle Pike
|pokemon=3
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=336
|pokemon=Seviper
|gender=both
|ability=Shed Skin
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|type1=Poison
|held=Focus Band
|move1=Sludge Bomb|move1type=Poison
|move2=Crunch|move2type=Dark
|move3=Giga Drain|move3type=Grass
|move4=Swagger|move4type=Normal}}

|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=208
|pokemon=Steelix
|gender=both
|ability=Rock Head|ability2=Sturdy
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|type1=Steel|type2=Ground
|held=BrightPowder
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground
|move2=Screech|move2type=Normal
|move3=Rock Slide|move3type=Rock
|move4=Explosion|move4type=Normal}}

|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=130
|pokemon=Gyarados
|gender=both
|ability=Intimidate
|level={{tt|50|Level 50}}, {{tt|60-100|Open Level}}
|type1=Water|type2=Flying
|held=Chesto Berry
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal
|move2=Dragon Dance|move2type=Dragon
|move3=Roar|move3type=Normal
|move4=Rest|move4type=Psychic}}
{{Party/Footer}}

==In spin-off games==
===[[Pokémon Masters EX]]===
{{main|Lucy (Masters)}}

==Artwork==
===Sprites===
{| style="margin:auto; text-align:center; {{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background: #{{frontier color}}; font-size:80%"
|-
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background: #{{frontier color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Spr E Lucy.png]]
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{frontier color dark}}; background: #{{frontier color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Lucy OD.png]]
|-
| Sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
| Overworld sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
|}

==Quotes==
{{Main|Lucy/Quotes}}

==In the anime==
[[File:Pike Queen Lucy.png|thumb|250px|Lucy in the {{pkmn|anime}}]]
Lucy appeared in ''[[AG158|Queen of the Serpentine!]]''. Before battling {{Ash}}, she rescued his {{AP|Pikachu}} from {{TRT}} with her {{TP|Lucy|Seviper}}, defeating [[Jessie's Seviper|Jessie's own Seviper]] in the process.

During the battle, Ash started off by using his {{AP|Donphan}} against Seviper. For a while, Lucy seemed to have the upper hand despite the [[type]] disadvantage. However, Ash managed to turn the tables on the Fang Snake Pokémon by using Donphan's {{m|Rollout}} to counter Seviper's {{m|Flamethrower}}, knocking it out.

Lucy then sent out her {{p|Milotic}}, which easily defeated Donphan with a single {{m|Hydro Pump}} attack. Left with no other choice, Ash decided to use {{AP|Pikachu}}. However, again, despite the type disadvantage, Lucy almost managed to defeat the {{type|Electric}} with a barrage of Hydro Pumps and {{m|Twister}}s. She even used Milotic's {{status|paralysis|paralyzed state}} and had it strike Pikachu with a powered up {{m|Facade}}. Ash finally managed to defeat Milotic and win the match after he had Pikachu jump inside one of Milotic's Twisters to land a spinning {{m|Volt Tackle}}.

She reappeared in a flashback in ''[[DP128|A Pyramiding Rage!]]''.

===Character===
In the {{pkmn|anime}}, Lucy is very different from her game incarnation, personality-wise, and appears to be friendlier. She allowed {{Ash}} to challenge her, even though the [[Battle Pike]] was closed that particular day, and also congratulated him on his victory. Her gentle attitude seems to be due to her crush on {{an|Brock}}. Lucy also doesn't tend to speak much, with her assistant [[Barbara]] having to speak for her most of the time.

Lucy has a remarkable preference for serpentine Pokémon and uses their tails as the perfect offensive strategy. [[Scott]] revealed that Lucy never taught her Pokémon defensive moves. Instead, she allows her Pokémon to take direct attacks from the opponent before retaliating with her own. In addition to serpentine Pokémon, Lucy likes Pokémon with squinted eyes, a preference that was responsible for her crush on Brock.

===Pokémon===
This listing is of Lucy's known Pokémon in the {{pkmn|anime}}:

{{TrainerPoké
|main=yes
|trainer=Lucy
|pkmn=Seviper
|type1=Poison
|img=Lucy Seviper.png
|epnum=AG158
|epname=Queen of the Serpentine!
|vajp=Megumi Hayashibara
|vaen=Bill Rogers
|desc=Lucy's signature Pokémon is {{p|Seviper}}. It appeared for the first time fighting [[Jessie's Seviper]], and it later battled [[Ash's Donphan]].}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Lucy
|pkmn=Milotic
|type1=Water
|img=Lucy Milotic.png
|epnum=AG158
|epname=Queen of the Serpentine!
|vajp=Chie Satō
|vaen=Michele Knotz
|desc={{p|Milotic}} was Lucy's second choice after defeating Seviper, where it was able to defeat [[Ash's Donphan]] with a single Hydro Pump. In its fight against [[Ash's Pikachu]], Milotic managed to deal severe damage to Pikachu, but Pikachu won after using {{m|Volt Tackle}} in one of Milotic's Twisters.

It reappeared in a flashback in ''[[DP128|A Pyramiding Rage!]]''.

Milotic's known moves are {{m|Hydro Pump}}, {{m|Twister}}, {{m|Iron Tail}}, and {{m|Facade}}.}}

====At home====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Lucy
|pkmn=Pokémon at home
|type1=Normal
|type2=Poison
|img=Lucy Pkmn in House.png
|epnum=AG158
|img2=Lucy Skitty Swinub.png
|epname=Queen of the Serpentine!
|desc=In addition to the Pokémon Lucy used in {{pkmn|battle}}, she also has many other Pokémon at home. Her Pokémon at home include {{p|Abra}}, {{p|Snorlax}}, {{p|Cyndaquil}}, {{p|Swinub}}, {{p|Makuhita}}, and {{p|Skitty}}. All the Pokémon have squinted eyes, which influenced Lucy to later develop an interest in {{an|Brock}}. Their battle experience is unknown, as it seems they are only kept as pets.

None of their moves are known.}}

===Voice actors===
{{vatable|color={{frontier color}}|bordercolor={{frontier color light}}
|ja=田中敦子 ''[[Atsuko Tanaka]]''
|en=[[Emily Williams|Emlyn Morinelli]]
|es_la=Laura Ayala
|es_eu=María Antonia Rodríguez
|fi=Jenni Sivonen
|pt_br=Samira Fernandes}}

==In the manga==
===Ash & Pikachu===
[[File:Lucy AP.png|thumb|200px|Lucy in Ash & Pikachu]]
Lucy appeared in ''[[SP36|An Infinite Bond!!]]''. Like in the {{pkmn|anime}}, {{Ash}} challenged her at the [[Battle Pike]], but unlike the anime, the battle was a Single Battle between [[Ash's Pikachu]] and Lucy's {{p|Milotic}}, which did not involve {{AP|Donphan}} or {{TP|Lucy|Seviper}}. In the end, Ash was able to defeat Milotic and win the battle.

====Pokémon====
{{TrainerPoké
|width=74
|trainer=Lucy
|pkmn=Milotic
|type1=Water
|img=Lucy Milotic AP.png
|epnum=SP36
|epname=An Infinite Bond!!
|desc={{p|Milotic}} is Lucy's only known Pokémon. It took on [[Ash's Pikachu]] and lost.

Milotic's known moves are {{m|Hydro Pump}}, {{m|Twister}}, {{m|Iron Tail}}, and {{m|Facade}}.}}

===Pokémon Adventures===
[[File:Lucy Adventures.png|thumb|225px|Lucy in the Pokémon Adventures manga]]
====History====
====={{chap|Emerald}}=====
Lucy is one of the seven {{pkmn|Trainer}}s hired by Scott to be a Frontier Brain at the {{gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}. Lucy is first seen at the Frontier's opening ceremony, where she participates in a demonstration battle alongside Spenser. Though the battle ends in an easy victory, the ceremony is interrupted by {{adv|Emerald}}, who announces that he wishes to conquer the Battle Frontier. The press mistakenly report the incident as allowing an ordinary Trainer to take part in the Battle Frontier before it officially opens a week later. The Frontier Brains decide to use this assumption as free publicity and allow Emerald to challenge the Battle Frontier under the condition that he completes it before it officially opens.

Lucy is the second Frontier Brain Emerald challenges in his quest. With a combination of luck and battling skill, Emerald manages to reach Lucy and defeat her, earning himself the Luck Symbol.

Later, while Emerald is challenging the [[Battle Pyramid]], Noland is attacked by an unknown assailant and several rental Pokémon are stolen. After Noland is taken to a hospital, the other Frontier Brains begin to suspect Emerald as the culprit. They head to the Battle Pyramid to confront Emerald and find him after having defeated Brandon. When they ask him about what happened, Emerald reveals that he did not attack Noland and is actually after the [[Mythical Pokémon]] {{adv|Jirachi}}. The Frontier Brains find Emerald's explanation suspicious, but decide to follow him into [[Artisan Cave]], where Jirachi is currently located at. Upon arriving, everyone is attacked by a horde of wild {{p|Smeargle}} while Emerald continues inside to find Jirachi. After the Frontier Brains get past the Smeargle, they meet up with Emerald, who has managed to find Jirachi. Emerald attempts to capture Jirachi, but is attacked by [[Guile Hideout]], the actual culprit who attacked Noland. When Jirachi runs off, Emerald attempts to pursue it, only to be attacked by the rental Pokémon Guile had stolen. Lucy, Brandon, Spenser, and Tucker all try to attack Guile to avenge Noland, but are easily defeated. Eventually, Jirachi escapes, forcing Guile to leave to continue his pursuit of it. Injured from the battle, everyone decides to return to the Battle Frontier. When they meet up with Scott again, he reveals that he was aware of Guile and Emerald's true mission the entire time. Scott states that he withheld the information from the Frontier Brains to help them get stronger as they still would have lost even if they had known of Guile beforehand.

The next day, Lucy assists the other Frontier Brains in ushering people to the [[Battle Dome]]. During the tournament, Guile appears and manages to capture Jirachi. Guile uses the rental Pokémon to the attack innocent bystanders and heads to the {{gdis|Battle Tower|III}} to make his wish. Once he arrives at the Battle Tower, Guile uses Jirachi to wish for a gigantic {{p|Kyogre}} made of seawater to flood the entire Battle Frontier. Lucy and the other Frontier Brains work together to get civilians to safety and fight off Guile's rental Pokémon while Emerald and the other [[Pokédex holder]]s fight Guile. Eventually Emerald and the Pokédex holders manage to defeat Guile and destroy the gigantic Kyogre monster. The day after, an injured Lucy and the other Frontier Brains congratulate Emerald for the hard work he put into saving everyone.

====={{chap|Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire}}=====
Lucy and the other Hoenn Frontier Brains battle and defeat the Admins of Neo [[Team Magma]] and Neo [[Team Aqua]], who had interfered in the launch of a rocket that was made to stop the [[Grand Meteor Delta|meteoroid]] threatening to destroy the world. Later, Lucy and the other Hoenn Frontier Brains are called to [[Sootopolis City]] to assist in stopping the meteoroid.

====Pokémon====
The following is the listing for Lucy's Pokémon in the Pokémon Adventures manga:
{{TrainerPoké
|main=yes
|trainer=Lucy
|pkmn=Seviper
|gender=female
|type1=Poison
|img=Lucy Seviper Adventures.png
|epnum=PS304
|epname=Swanky Showdown with Swalot
|desc={{p|Seviper}} is Lucy's first known Pokémon. She was used to battle a {{p|Swalot}} and {{p|Electrode}} in the opening ceremony of the {{gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}. By exploiting her {{a|Shed Skin}}, Seviper ended the battle in a victory. In Emerald's [[Battle Pike]] challenge, Seviper was the first Pokémon sent out to battle before being switched. Eventually, she was the last of Lucy's team to be defeated, giving Emerald the victory. At the Artisan Cave, she was used to battle Guile, only for her attacks to be easily countered. In the Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire chapter, she was seen helping Lucy fight the Admins of Neo Team Magma and Neo Team Aqua.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Lucy
|pkmn=Milotic
|gender=female
|type1=Water
|img=Lucy Milotic Adventures.png
|epnum=PS309
|epname=Moving Past Milotic
|desc={{p|Milotic}} is Lucy's second known Pokémon. She was the third Pokémon Lucy used in her battle against Emerald. She fought Emerald's {{p|Starmie}}, but was quickly defeated by a {{m|Thunderbolt}} before Starmie fainted from its status ailment. Later, she was used to take Lucy to the Artisan Cave. During the [[Battle Dome]] tournament, she helped usher in visitors to their seats.

Milotic's known moves are {{m|Mirror Coat}}, {{m|Recover}}{{tt|*|Not used, just mentioned in the Pokédex}}, {{m|Ice Beam}}{{tt|*|Not used, just mentioned in the Pokédex}}, and {{m|Surf}}{{tt|*|Not used, just mentioned in the Pokédex}}, and her Ability is {{a|Marvel Scale}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Lucy
|pkmn=Shuckle
|gender=female
|type1=Bug
|type2=Rock
|img=Lucy Shuckle Adventures.png
|epnum=PS309
|epname=Moving Past Milotic
|desc={{p|Shuckle}} is Lucy's third known Pokémon. She was the second Pokémon Lucy used in her battle against Emerald. She was used against Emerald's Starmie and managed to poison it with Toxic but was quickly defeated by its powerful {{m|Surf}}.

Shuckle's known moves are {{m|Protect}}, {{m|Toxic}}, {{m|Sandstorm}}{{tt|*|Not used, just mentioned in the Pokédex}}, and {{m|Rock Slide}}{{tt|*|Not used, just mentioned in the Pokédex}}, and her Ability is {{a|Sturdy}}.}}

===Pokémon Battle Frontier===
[[File:Lucy CBF.png|thumb|150px|Lucy in Pokémon Battle Frontier]]
Lucy's only appearance was in ''[[CBF5|The Predestined Battle!]]'', where she was {{OBP|Enta|CBF}}'s next challenger after he defeated [[Spenser]].

Lucy watched from the shadows when Enta battled Spenser. After the battle, Enta's Zangoose popped out of its Poké Ball, agitated. This gave Lucy a chance to show herself. She had a talk with Enta regarding his strength while her Seviper's presence made Zangoose even angrier. Lucy gets upset at Enta when he calls her middle aged and heads over to the [[Battle Pike]]. This makes Enta decide to challenge the Battle Pike next.

After arriving, Enta is welcomed by Lucy and their challenge begins. Once again, Enta called her middle aged and she got upset from this comment. During the battle, when Seviper and Zangoose were up, she explained to Enta about the bitter rivalry between the two, making Enta realize Zangoose's feelings. With Zangoose feeling much calmer, Enta was able to defeat Lucy and win his sixth Frontier Symbol. After the battle, Lucy commented on his talent and congratulated him. She then told him that the final Frontier Brain was none other than [[Anabel]]. This made Enta excited for his battle with Anabel.

====Pokémon====
{{TrainerPoké
|main=yes
|trainer=Lucy
|pkmn=Seviper
|type1=Poison
|img=Lucy Seviper CBF.png
|epnum=CBF5
|epname=The Predestined Battle!
|desc={{p|Seviper}} was first seen when Lucy went up to {{OBP|Enta|CBF}}. Later, it was used during her battle with Enta and its rival and enemy, {{p|Zangoose}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Lucy
|pkmn=Shuckle
|type1=Bug
|type2=Rock
|img=Lucy Shuckle CBF.png
|epnum=CBF5
|epname=The Predestined Battle!
|desc={{p|Shuckle}} was the first Pokémon Lucy used against Enta. It battled with [[Enta's Vulpix]] as the first opponent but the outcome between the two wasn't shown. It was defeated later on when both sides were down to one Pokémon.

None of Shuckle's moves are known.}}

*Lucy has access to a third Pokémon as the battle she had with Enta required three Pokémon.

==Trivia==
* In the {{pkmn|anime}}, Lucy is one of the few characters who have fallen in love with Brock. She claims it is because his eyes remind her of an {{p|Abra}} and some of her other Pokémon that share the same squinted eye feature.
* Lucy's character design resembles that of {{p|Seviper}} color scheme.
* While Lucy doesn't appear in {{pkmn|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}, an [[NPC]] in the [[Battle Maison]] will mention that scouting has been completed for the Pike Queen of the upcoming {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}.

==Names==
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{frontier color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{frontier color}}"
|- style="text-align:center"
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Japanese
| アザミ ''Azami''
| From 薊 ''azami'' ({{wp|thistle}})
|- style="background:#FFF"
| English
| Lucy
| From ''luck'' and possibly ''lucy'' (heraldic name of {{wp|Esox|pike}})
|- style="background:#FFF"
| German
| Lotte
| From ''Los'' (lot, fate)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Spanish
| Fortunia
| From ''fortuna'' (fortune, luck)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| French
| Charline
| From ''chance'' (luck)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Italian
| Fortunata
| From ''fortunata'' (fortunate, lucky)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| rowspan="2" | Korean
| 다슬 ''Daseul''{{tt|*|Games, anime}}
| Possibly a corruption of ''thistle''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 예미 ''Yemi''{{tt|*|Adventures}}
|
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and Mainland China}})
| 小薊 / 小蓟 ''Xiǎo Jì''
| rowspan="2" | From 薊 / 蓟 ''jì / gai'' (thistle)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Cantonese|Hong Kong}})
| 小薊 ''Síu Gai''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Vietnamese
| Azami
| Transcription of her Japanese name
|}

===Pike Queen===
{{langtable|color={{frontier color light}}|bordercolor={{frontier color}}
|ja=チューブクイーン ''Tube Queen''
|zh_yue=水管皇后 ''{{tt|Séuigún Wòhnghauh|Tube Empress}}'' {{tt|*|Games, anime}} 水管王后 ''{{tt|Séuigún Wòhnghauh|Tube Queen}}'' {{tt|*|Adventures}}
|zh_cmn=水管皇后 ''{{tt|Shuǐguǎn Huánghòu|Tube Empress}}'' {{tt|*|Games, anime}} 水管女王 ''{{tt|Shuǐguǎn Nǚwáng|Tube Queen}}'' {{tt|*|Adventures}}
|fi=Keihäskuningatar
|fr_eu=Reine Venin
|de=Pfipitistin
|it=Regina Serpe
|ko=튜브퀸 ''Tube Queen''
|pt_br=Rainha do Pico
|es_eu=Reina Sierpe
|es_la=Reina del Pico
|vi=Nữ hoàng Đường ống
}}

==Related articles==
* [[a:Category:Lucy|Images on the Bulbagarden Archives]]
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