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Kyogre (Pokémon)

2010-09-01T15:14:12Z

Spenvdm: /* Origin */ source: Wikipedia article "Leviathan" and Wikitonary entry "לויתן"

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Latios | next=Groudon | prevnum=381 | nextnum=383 | type=water}}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Kyogre |
jname=カイオーガ |
tmname=Kaiorga|
size=180px |
art=RS |
pron=<sc>kaiyou-guhr</sc> |
ndex=382 |
hdex=198 |
fbrow=208 |
typen=1 |
type1=Water |
type2= |
species=Sea Basin |
height-ftin=14'09" |
height-m=4.5 |
weight-lbs=776.0 |
weight-kg=352.0 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Drizzle |
ability2= |
egggroupn=0 |
egggroup1=No eggs |
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=120|
evsa=3|
expyield=218 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gendercode=255|
color=Blue |
catchrate=5 |
body=03 |
pokefordex=kyogre |
generation=3 |
footnotes=}}
'''Kyogre''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''カイオーガ''' ''Kaiorga'') is a {{type2|Water}} {{pkmn2|legendary}} [[Pokémon]].

It is not known to [[evolution|evolve]] into or from any other Pokémon.

Kyogre possesses the ability to expand the oceans. In ancient times it came in conflict with {{p|Groudon}}, a Pokémon with the ability to expand continents.

In {{game3|Ruby and Sapphire|Pokémon Sapphire|s}} and {{v2|Emerald}}, Kyogre is sought after by [[Team Aqua]] as part of their plot to create more habitats for aquatic Pokémon by raising the sea level.

Kyogre is the version mascot of Pokémon Sapphire, appearing on the boxart.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
It has two big fins or "wings", each ending with four square-shaped "claws." It has a deep blue body and a white chin area with two spikes protruding under it. Above each eye are two spots. It has markings on its wings which sort of resemble the letter A. It also has two small dorsal fins on its back with two stripes running horizontally below the fins. The tail seems tattered with four trails, the inner smaller than the outer. It also has a mouth full of rarely seen sharp triangular teeth.
====Gender differences====
Kyogre is a genderless species.
====Special abilities====
Kyogre has the [[ability|power]] to {{a|Drizzle|summon}} {{DL|Weather conditions|heavy rain}} that remains even after the Pokémon has left the area. It also can control the seas, widening the oceans with massive tidal waves. It is thought to be the creator of the seas in the [[Pokémon world]]. Kyogre is one of the few Pokémon capable of learning {{m|Water Spout}}.

===Behavior===
Not much is known about the behavior of Kyogre, due to the fact that it is rarely seen. It appears to be calm and peaceful, but when angered it may attack relentlessly as seen in its battle with {{p|Groudon}} in [[Sootopolis City]].

===Habitat===
[[File:Sea.gif|right|frame|{{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Sea Pokémon}}]]
Kyogre normally sleep deep beneath the sea in the [[Seafloor Cavern]], but have also been known to appear in the [[Embedded Tower]].

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}
Being a dolphin-like Pokémon, it is likely that Kyogre actively hunts for its food. It is also possible that it may feed on plankton, like some real-world aquatic animals.

==In the anime==
[[Image:Kyogre.png|250px|thumb|right|Kyogre in ''[[M09|Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]]'']]
Kyogre's first appearance was in ''[[AG097|Gaining Groudon]]''. [[Team Magma]] had captured Kyogre but didn't have the correct orb to control it. Team Magma planned to make a trade with [[Team Aqua]], who have captured Groudon. The trade was about to be made when [[Archie]] decided to use Kyogre to destroy everyone, including his fellow henchmen.

The {{pkmn|battle}} between Kyogre and Groudon occurred during the following episode, ''[[AG098|The Scuffle of Legends]]''.

Kyogre appeared in the {{pkmn|movie}} ''[[M09|Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]]''. It had appeared along with countless other Water Pokémon when {{Ash}} replaced all of the [[Sea Crown]]'s crystals. However, when [[The Phantom]] attempted to make all the Water-types panic using supersonic waves from his ship, Kyogre too was part of the ensuing commotion. {{mov|Manaphy|Manaphy|9}} calmed them down using {{m|Heart Swap}} to rid the Pokémon of their confusion, and some {{p|Wailord}} broke open [[The Phantom]]'s ship, followed by some {{p|Chinchou}} swimming into the opening and short-circuiting the ship. Kyogre then used {{m|Hyper Beam}} on the ship, destroying it.

Kyogre makes a cameo in the introduction of ''[[M10|The Rise of Darkrai]]'' and ''[[M11|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''.

==In the manga==
Kyogre's first appearance was in ''[[PS233|VS. Kyogre & Groudon I]]''. It was awakened by Team Aqua so the waters will be expanded. [[Wattson]], [[Flannery]], and [[Winona]] tried to stop it but failed due to Team Aqua's interference. Later on, [[Guile Hideout]] made {{p|Jirachi}} create a Kyogre monster.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Kyogre (TCG)}}

==In the TFG==
One Kyogre figure has been released.
* {{TFG|Next Quest}}: {{TFG ID|Next Quest|Kyogre|5}}

==Other appearances==
[[Image:SSBB Kyogre.png|right|thumb|Kyogre in [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]]]
===[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]===
After being released from a [[Poké Ball]], Kyogre opens its mouth and squirts out {{m|Hydro Pump|a stream of water}}. The water is non-damaging, but causes characters to be knocked back with extreme force. Touching Kyogre's body will do damage. Kyogre also appears as a trophy.

==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
* [[Pokémon Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire]]: Kyogre is the focus of the second Bonus Field on the [[Sapphire Field]]. Kyogre will first use {{m|Sheer Cold}} to freeze the ball in place. It will then create {{m|whirlpool}}s to trap the ball further. Finally, it will {{m|dive}} into the water to evade being hit completely. However, air bubbles will appear where it is about to rise out of the water. Kyogre must be hit 15 times in three minutes to win. After beating the round twice, Kyogre will be captured.
* [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness]]: Kyogre is the guardian of the [[Seven Treasures|Aqua-Monica]].

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=water
|gen=3
|rubydex=Kyogre has the power to create massive rain clouds that cover the entire sky and bring about torrential {{a|Drizzle|downpours}}. This Pokémon saved people who were suffering from droughts.
|sapphiredex=Kyogre is named in mythology as the Pokémon that expanded the sea by covering the land with torrential rains and towering tidal waves. It took to sleep after a cataclysmic battle with {{p|Groudon}}.
|emeralddex=Kyogre has appeared in mythology as the creator of the sea. After long years of feuding with Groudon, it took to sleep at the bottom of the sea.
|frlgdex=This Pokémon is said to have expanded the sea by bringing heavy rains. It has the power to control water.
|dpptdex=It is said to have widened the seas by causing downpours. It had been asleep in a marine trench.
|hgssdex=A mythical Pokémon said to have swelled the seas with rain and tidal waves. It battled with Groudon.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=water |
gen=3 |
rsrarity=One |
rsarea=[[Cave of Origin]] |
gen3ex=sapphire|
erarity=One |
earea=[[Marine Cave]] |
frlgex=rse|
dparea=[[Pal Park]] |
ptarea=[[Pal Park]] |
gen4ex=pal|
hgssrarity=One |
hgssarea=[[Embedded Tower]] (requires {{OBP|Blue Orb|Generation IV}})|
hgssex=heartgold|
palarea=Sea |
}}
====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=Water
|pinballrs=Bonus Field ([[Sapphire Field]])
|trozei=Random Agent Cards [[Mr. Who's Den]]
|md=[[Stormy Sea]] (40F)
|md2=[[Bottomless Sea]] (Bottom)
|ranger=[[Safra Sea]] (during mission)
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=water|
HP= 100 |
Attack=100 |
Defense=90 |
SpAtk= 150 |
SpDef= 140 |
Speed= 90 }}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|type=Water
|Speed=3
|SpeedMax=4
|Power=3
|PowerMax=4
|Technique=4
|TechniqueMax=5
|Stamina=5
|StaminaMax=5
|Jump=3
|JumpMax=4
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{Type effectiveness|
type1=water|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|water|water|4|3|Kyogre}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|5|Scary Face|Normal|Status|—|90|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|15|Body Slam|Normal|Physical|85|100|15|Tough|3|||HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|15|AncientPower|Rock|Special|60|100|5|Tough|2|||DPPt}}
{{mlentry4|20|Body Slam|Normal|Physical|85|100|15|Tough|3|||DPPt}}
{{mlentry4|20|Muddy Water|Water|Special|95|85|10|Tough|2||'''|HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|30|Aqua Ring|Water|Status|—|—|20|Beauty|0|||HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|30|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|0|||DPPt}}
{{mlentry4|35|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|45|AncientPower|Rock|Special|60|100|5|Tough|2|||HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|45|Hydro Pump|Water|Special|120|80|5|Beauty|2||'''|DPPt}}
{{mlentry4|50|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0|||DPPt}}
{{mlentry4|50|Water Spout|Water|Special|150|100|5|Beauty|2||'''|HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|60|Sheer Cold|Ice|Special|—|30|5|Beauty|0|||DPPt}}
{{mlentry4|60|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|0|||HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|65|Aqua Tail|Water|Physical|90|90|10|Cute|3||'''|HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|65|Double-Edge|Normal|Physical|120|100|15|Tough|0|||DPPt}}
{{mlentry4|75|Aqua Tail|Water|Physical|90|90|10|Cute|3||'''|DPPt}}
{{mlentry4|75|Sheer Cold|Ice|Special|—|30|5|Beauty|0|||HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|80|Water Spout|Water|Special|150|100|5|Beauty|2||'''|DPPt}}
{{mlentry4|80|Double-Edge|Normal|Physical|120|100|15|Tough|0|||HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|90|Hydro Pump|Water|Special|120|80|5|Beauty|2||'''|HGSS}}
{{movelist/note|4|water}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|water|water|4|3|Kyogre}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM03]]|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM04]]|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM05]]|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM07]]|Hail|Ice|Status|—|—|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM13]]|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM14]]|Blizzard|Ice|Special|120|70|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM20]]|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM24]]|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|95|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM25]]|Thunder|Electric|Special|120|70|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM26]]|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM31]]|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM34]]|Shock Wave|Electric|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM39]]|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM55]]|Brine|Water|Special|65|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM72]]|Avalanche|Ice|Physical|60|100|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM73]]|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM77]]|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM80]]|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM03]]|Surf|Water|Special|95|100|15|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM04]]|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM05]]|Whirlpool|Water|Special|15|70|15|Beauty|0||'''|HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM06]]|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM07]]|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3||'''}}
{{movelist/note|4|water}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|water|water|4b|3|Kyogre}}
{{mtentry4|AncientPower|Rock|Special|60|100|5|Tough|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Aqua Tail|Water|Physical|90|90|10|Cute|3||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Block|Normal|Status|—|—|5|Cute|2|||no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10|Beauty|2||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Headbutt|Normal|Physical|70|100|15|Tough|3|||no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Iron Head|Steel|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Signal Beam|Bug|Special|75|100|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cool|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Uproar|Normal|Special|50|100|10|Cute|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4|water}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=water |
ndex=382 |
pinballrs=Catch |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=4 |
rate=50 |
area=Seafloor Cave |
P1=I created the seas. What do you wish of me? |
P2=This defies belief...My health should fall to half? |
P3=I've had enough...I long for the seas... |
PL=I've leveled up! The savage power of the seas fill me! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=yes |
group=Water |
assist=Water |
fieldpower=0 |
field=None |
loop=16 |
MinEXP=600 |
MaxEXP=995 |
browser=Kyogre is a legendary Pokémon that attacks with a succession of giant waves. |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=4 |
rate2=-10 |
iq=E |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|sprite1=382
|name1=Kyogre
|type1-1=Water}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=water|
gen=3|
gender=none|
ndex=382|
name=Kyogre|
}}

==Trivia==
[[File:Marina.png|thumb|Marina's Kyogre Costume]]
* [[Palace Maven Spenser]] has a staff with Kyogre's markings on it, and [[Sir Aaron]]'s gloves also have similar markings.
* Kyogre is tied with {{p|Palkia}} for highest {{stat|Special Attack}} of all {{type2|Water}} Pokémon.
** Kyogre is tied with {{p|Mantine}} for highest {{stat|Special Defense}} of all {{type2|Water}} Pokémon.
* Kyogre and its counterpart, {{p|Groudon}}, are the only Pokémon to date with a [[catch rate]] of 5.
* Kyogre is shown flying in the [[Legends Awakened (TCG)|Diamond & Pearl: Legends Awakened]] commercial and in [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]. However, it cannot learn {{m|Fly}}.
** Additionally, if it is defeated in the wild, the game will say that it flew away.
* Kyogre is the only non {{type2|Ice}} to naturally learn {{m|Sheer Cold}} by level-up.
* In Pokémon Battle Revolution, Marina has a costume based on Kyogre.
===Origin===
Kyogre is most likely based on the Hebrew legends of {{wp|Leviathan}}, the unconquerable primal master of the sea. Its counterparts were {{wp|Behemoth}} and {{wp|Ziz}}. Just as Kyogre is in conflict with Groudon, it was said that at the end of time Leviathan and Behemoth would start a battle that would kill them both. The Hebrew word for Leviathan is now used for wales in modern Hebrew, which may be why Kyogre's appearance also draws inspiration from whales, especially the ''{{wp|Orca}}''. Kyogre could also be based on Hayo and Lakandanum, the gods of the sea of the {{wp|Philippine mythology}}.
====Name origin====
Kyogre's name can be broken up into 海 ''kai'', ocean, and ''{{wp|killer whale|orca}}'', a species described as a whale, but which is actually more closely related to dolphins. Its name is not likely to have been derived directly from ''ogre'', which are mythological land beasts. It is worth noting that without the last syllable, ''Kyogre'' spells out 海王 ''kaiō'', which means ''King of the Sea''. It is also worth noting that 海王 are the first two characters in 海王星 ''Kaiōsei'', {{wp|Neptune (mythology)|Neptune}}.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Kyogre
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Kyogre
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 가이오가 ''Gaioga'' (''Kyorca'')
*[[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese (Taiwan)]]: 蓋歐卡 ''Gài Ōu Kǎ'' - Transliteration of its Japanese name.

==Related articles==
* [[Weather trio]]

==External links==
* [http://pokemonfan.org/kyogre/ Mighty Orca], the fanlisting for Kyogre

==Notes==
{{Smash Bros.}}
{{Legendary Pokémon}}
[[Category:Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Legendary Pokémon obtainable before the Elite Four]]
[[Category:Hoenn Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Version mascots]]
[[Category:Legendary Trio Pokémon]]

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Rayquaza (Pokémon)

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{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Groudon | next=Jirachi | prevnum=383 | nextnum=385 | type=dragon| type2=flying}}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Rayquaza |
jname=レックウザ |
tmname=Rayquaza |
art=RS |
size=180px |
pron=<sc>rei-kwei-zah</sc> |
ndex=384 |
hdex=200 |
fdex=210 |
typen=2 |
type1=Dragon |
type2=Flying |
species=Sky High |
height-ftin=23'00" |
height-m=7.0 |
weight-lbs=455.2 |
weight-kg=206.5 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Air Lock |
ability2= |
egggroupn=0 |
egggroup1=No eggs |
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=120 |
evat=2|
evsa=1|
expyield=220 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gendercode=255|
color=Green |
catchrate=3 |
body=02 |
pokefordex=rayquaza |
generation=3 |
footnotes=}}
'''Rayquaza''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''レックウザ''' ''Rayquaza'') is a dual-type {{2t|Dragon|Flying}} [[legendary Pokémon]].

It is not known to evolve into or from any other Pokémon.

In {{game|Emerald}}, it served to end the conflict between {{p|Kyogre}} and {{p|Groudon}} when [[Team Magma]]'s leader [[Maxie]] and [[Team Aqua]]'s leader [[Archie]] awakened them.

Rayquaza is the version mascot of {{game|Emerald}}, appearing on the boxart.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Rayquaza is a large, green, flying serpentine-like creature with red-tipped, rudder-like wings on its shoulders and down its body, and similarly-patterned fins on the tip of its tail. Yellow rings run across the length of Rayquaza's body and it has an additional yellow ring on top of its head. Rayquaza has two limbs with three-clawed carpals, and two long, flat, horn-like structures on its head, with two smaller horns below them. Rayquaza appears to have a prominent gumline, with only two discernible fangs on the tip of its upper snout, the other protrusions in its mouth apparently from pointed gums. It has small, yellow eyes with black pupils. Its eyes and markings resemble those of both {{p|Kyogre}} and {{p|Groudon}}.

====Gender differences====
Rayquaza is a genderless species.

====Special abilities====
It is notable for its ability to [[trio master|soothe]] the other members of the [[Weather trio]], when angered. Rayquaza is capable of using various powerful elemental attacks that it shoots from its mouth. Rayquaza can negate the effects of the weather. Since Rayquaza is a {{type2|Dragon}} Pokémon, it can learn {{m|Draco Meteor}}.

===Behavior===
Rayquaza constantly flies around the globe in the ozone layer, stopping and descending only to land on the peak of the Sky Pillar to rest. It is extremely territorial and will attack any intruders of its home. Due to the fact that it can calm the other members of [[Weather trio|its trio]], it can be seen to be considered a leader and calm.

===Habitat===
[[File:Rare.gif|right|frame|{{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Rare Pokémon}}]]
Rayquaza lives high in the {{wp|ozone layer}}, but may rest on [[Sky Pillar]], [[Sky Tower Summit]], [[Sky Stairway]], or in the [[Embedded Tower]]. It also, on occasion, flies the world's skies when disturbed.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}
Rayquaza consumes water particles in the atmosphere.

==In the anime==
[[File:Rayquaza_flying.png|thumb|275px|right|Rayquaza in its [[M07|debut appearance]]]]

{{mov|Rayquaza|Rayquaza|7}} appears in ''[[M07|Destiny Deoxys]]''. This Pokémon, like most other featured legendary Pokémon, proved to be extremely powerful. It fights against {{mov|Deoxys}} because it is seen as invading its territory. After a destructive battle over a glacier witnessed by [[Professor Lund]], [[Yuko]], and Lund's son [[Tory Lund|Tory]], and although it takes a few {{m|Psycho Boost}}s and is critically hit and falls into the freezing ocean, Rayquaza comes back and defeats Deoxys with a {{m|Hyper Beam}} attack. Four years later, Deoxys manages to regenerate, and it goes to find its friend, another Deoxys. Rayquaza senses its presence and goes to LaRousse City to battle Deoxys again. After [[LaRousse City]] has been evacuated, Rayquaza manages to break through Deoxys's city-wide barrier after many failed attempts. Then, Rayquaza and Deoxys have a second spectacular battle that destroys some of the city. After {{p|Deoxys}} finds its friend and helps fight off the malfunctioning security bots, Rayquaza realizes that Deoxys is not hostile and stops attacking. It (or possibly another of its species) also has a cameo in the opening to the [[M09|ninth Pokémon movie]] and is captured by Team Rocket. Its current status is unknown, possibly flying around in the atmosphere (assuming it managed to escape from Team Rocket).

In ''[[DP043|Malice In Wonderland!]]'', a Rayquaza appeared in ownership of [[Cynthia]], but as an illusion created by {{p|Mismagius}}. When Mismagius fuses with Rayquaza, it becomes the same color as the Mismagius.

A real Rayquaza appeared in its anime episode debut in outer space in ''[[DP142|Where No Togepi Has Gone Before!]]'', where it rammed into the rocket ship Ash and co. and Team Rocket were on, presumably protecting its territory.

==In the manga==
===In [[Pokémon Adventures]]===
To stop the battle between Kyogre and Groudon, [[Wally]] and [[Norman]] trained at the [[Sky Tower]] and woke up Rayquaza. Five years earlier, {{adv|Ruby}}'s victory over a {{p|Salamence}} was the reason Norman was banned from the Gym Leader test as the wounded Salamence accidentally let Rayquaza, who was in captivity at that time, free.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Rayquaza (TCG)}}

==Other appearances==
===[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]===
Rayquaza appears in [[the Subspace Emissary]] mode of Super Smash Bros. Brawl as a boss. After {{smw|Diddy Kong}} lands on a mysterious island, Rayquaza lunges out of the water and snatches him, furious from being distrupted. A ship suddenly crash-lands and smashes onto the beach, and out jumps {{smw|Fox McCloud|Fox}}, who deflects Rayquaza's {{m|Dragon Pulse}} back at it. Rayquaza collapses into the water, but not for long until it launches back out, engaging in battle between Fox and Diddy. Later, it is fought in the Great Maze level again and can be fought in the Boss Battles after the storyline is beaten.

====Trophy Information====
''A Sky High Pokémon. It normally resides high up in the ozone layer where it flies endlessly, so it is rarely seen. However, when {{p|Groudon}} and {{p|Kyogre}} began to fight, it appeared to calm them down. It has the ability {{a|Air Lock}}, which blocks all weather-condition effects. It has exceedingly strong abilities, and its attack power is especially remarkable.''

==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
[[File:RayquazaSSBB.jpg|right|thumb|Rayquaza, as it appears in Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]
* [[Pokémon Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire]]: Rayquaza is the focus of the third and final Bonus Field. It can only be challenged after capturing {{p|Groudon}} or {{p|Kyogre}} and will then join the circuit of bonus fields. Rayquaza will bounce along from left to right, allowing the ball to roll under it if it is up. It will sometimes use {{m|Thunder}} to paralyze the ball if it is not moving fast enough, though it does stay still while it is unleashing the attack. Rayquaza will also sometimes use {{m|ExtremeSpeed}} to create two tornadoes that cause the ball to fly up into the air for several seconds if contact is made. Rayquaza must be hit 15 times in three minutes to win. After beating the round twice, Rayquaza will be captured.
* [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]: Rayquaza acts as the final boss, living on the [[Sky Tower]]. After it is defeated, Rayquaza helps save the {{pkmn|world}} from a meteor. After the credits roll, the player can re-battle Rayquaza to recruit it.
* {{ga|Pokémon Ranger}}: Rayquaza can be captured in a bonus mission after the credits.
* [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness]]: Rayquaza is the guardian of the [[Seven Treasures|Sky Melodica]].

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=dragon
|type2=flying
|gen=3
|rubydex=Rayquaza lived for hundreds of millions of years in the earth's ozone layer, never descending to the ground. This Pokémon appears to feed on water and particles in the atmosphere.
|sapphiredex=Rayquaza is said to have lived for hundreds of millions of years in the earth's ozone layer, above the clouds. Its existence had been completely unknown because it lived so high in the sky.
|emeralddex=A Pokémon that flies endlessly in the ozone layer. It is said it would descend to the ground if {{p|Kyogre}} and {{p|Groudon}} were to fight.
|frlgdex=It has lived for hundreds of millions of years in the ozone layer. Its flying form looks like a meteor.
|dpptdex=It cannot be seen from ground level since it lives far up above the clouds in the ozone layer.
|hgssdex=It flies in the ozone layer, way up high in the sky. Until recently, no one had ever seen it.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=dragon |
type2=flying |
gen=3 |
rsrarity=One |
rsarea=[[Sky Pillar]] |
erarity=One |
earea=[[Sky Pillar]] |
frlgex=rse|
dparea=[[Pal Park]] |
ptarea=[[Pal Park]] |
gen4ex=pal|
hgssrarity=One |
hgssarea=[[Embedded Tower]] (requires [[Jade Orb]]) |
palarea=Field |
}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=Dragon
|type2=Flying
|pinballrs=Bonus Field
|trozei=Random Agent Cards [[Mr. Who's Den]]
|md=[[Sky Tower Summit]] (9F)
|md2=[[Sky Stairway]] (Summit)
|ranger=[[Fiore Temple]] (during mission)
}}

===Held items===
{{HeldItems|type=dragon|type2=flying
|event1=Dragon Scale|event1type=Evolution-inducing held item|event1rar=100
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=dragon |
type2=flying |
HP= 105 |
Attack=150 |
Defense=90 |
SpAtk= 150 |
SpDef= 90 |
Speed= 95 }}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|type=Dragon
|type2=Flying
|Speed=4
|SpeedMax=5
|Power=4
|PowerMax=5
|Technique=3
|TechniqueMax=3
|Stamina=4
|StaminaMax=5
|Jump=5
|JumpMax=5
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP Type effectiveness|
type1=Dragon|
type2=Flying|
Normal= 100 |
Flying= 100 |
Fighting= 50 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 200 |
Bug= 50 |
Poison= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 50 |
Grass= 25 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Water= 50 |
Ice= 400 |
Dragon= 200 |
Dark= 100 |
notes=yes|
flying=yes|
newground=1}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|dragon|flying|4|3|Rayquaza}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Twister|Dragon|Special|40|100|20|Cool|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|5|Scary Face|Normal|Status|—|90|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|15|Crunch|Dark|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|2|||HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|15|AncientPower|Rock|Special|60|100|5|Tough|2|||DPPt}}
{{mlentry4|20|Hyper Voice|Normal|Special|90|100|10|Tough|3|||HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|20|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|80|100|15|Cool|2||'''|DPPt}}
{{mlentry4|30|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0|||HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|30|Dragon Dance|Dragon|Status|—|—|20|Cool|0|||DPPt}}
{{mlentry4|35|Air Slash|Flying|Special|75|95|29|Cool|2||'''|HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|35|Crunch|Dark|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|2|||DPPt}}
{{mlentry4|45|AncientPower|Rock|Special|60|100|5|Tough|2|||HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|45|Fly|Flying|Physical|90|95|15|Smart|1||'''|DPPt}}
{{mlentry4|50|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|120|100|15|Cool|2||'''|HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|50|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0|||DPPt}}
{{mlentry4|60|Dragon Dance|Dragon|Status|—|—|20|Cool|0|||HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|60|ExtremeSpeed|Normal|Physical|80|100|5|Cool|2|||DPPt}}
{{mlentry4|65|Fly|Flying|Physical|90|95|15|Smart|1||'''|HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|65|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2|||DPPt}}
{{mlentry4|70|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|120|100|15|Cool|2||'''|DPPt}}
{{mlentry4|75|ExtremeSpeed|Normal|Physical|80|100|5|Cool|2|||HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|75|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''|DPPt}}
{{mlentry4|80|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2|||HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|90|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''|HGSS}}
{{movelist/note|4|dragon|flying}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|Dragon|Flying|4|3|Rayquaza}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM02]]|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|80|100|15|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM03]]|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM05]]|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM08]]|Bulk Up|Fighting|Status|—|—|20|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM13]]|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM14]]|Blizzard|Ice|Special|120|70|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM22]]|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10|Cool|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM23]]|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|100|75|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM24]]|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|95|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM25]]|Thunder|Electric|Special|120|70|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM26]]|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM31]]|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM34]]|Shock Wave|Electric|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM35]]|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|95|100|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM37]]|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM38]]|Fire Blast|Fire|Special|120|85|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM39]]|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM40]]|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM50]]|Overheat|Fire|Special|140|90|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM52]]|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM53]]|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM56]]|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10|Tough|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM59]]|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM65]]|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM71]]|Stone Edge|Rock|Physical|100|80|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM72]]|Avalanche|Ice|Physical|60|100|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM73]]|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM74]]|Gyro Ball|Steel|Physical|—|100|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM75]]|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM77]]|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM80]]|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM02]]|Fly|Flying|Physical|90|95|15|Smart|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM03]]|Surf|Water|Special|95|100|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM04]]|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM05]]|Whirlpool|Water|Special|15|70|15|Beauty|0|||HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM06]]|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM07]]|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{movelist/note|4|dragon|flying}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|dragon|flying|4b|3|Rayquaza}}
{{mtentry4|AncientPower|Rock|Special|60|100|5|Tough|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Aqua Tail|Water|Physical|90|90|10|Cute|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10|Beauty|1|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Draco Meteor|Dragon|Special|140|90|5|Smart|2||'''|yes|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Earth Power|Ground|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Fury Cutter|Bug|Physical|10|95|20|Cool|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Headbutt|Normal|Physical|70|100|15|Tough|3|||no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Iron Head|Steel|Physical|80|100|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|120|100|15|Cool|2||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cute|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Tailwind|Flying|Status|—|—|30|Smart|2|||no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Twister|Dragon|Special|40|100|20|Cool|3||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Uproar|Normal|Special|50|100|10|Cute|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4|dragon|flying}}

====By {{pkmn2|event}}s====
{{movelistspecial|dragon|flying|4|3|Rayquaza}}
{{mlentry4special|[[List of Nintendo event Pokémon in 2008#Nintendo of Korea Rayquaza|Nintendo of Korea Event]]|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|120|100|15|Cool|2||'''|70}}
{{movelist/note|4|dragon|flying}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=dragon |
type2=flying |
ndex=384 |
pinballrs=Catch |
HC=C |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=4 |
rate=-10 |
area=Stratos Lookout |
P1=Like a star blazing in the sky, I shall help you! |
P2=How is this possible? My health is reduced to a mere half? |
P3=I've had enough... The ozone layer calls for my return... |
PL=I've leveled up! The vast power of the skies fills me! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=yes |
group=Dragon |
assist=Flying |
fieldpower=0 |
field=None |
loop=13 |
MinEXP=600 |
MaxEXP=- |
browser=Rayquaza {{m|Outrage|rampages}} while spitting energy. It is said to be impossible to capture. |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=4 |
rate2=-10 |
iq=D |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|sprite1=384
|name1=Rayquaza
|type1-1=Dragon
|type2-1=Flying}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=dragon|
type2=flying|
gen=3|
gender=none|
ndex=384|
name=Rayquaza|
}}

==Trivia==
* In Pokémon Emerald, Rayquaza appears to use {{m|Hyper Voice}} to calm down Groudon and Kyogre at Sootopolis. Rayquaza couldn't learn it in any Generation III game, but this was rectified the in HeartGold and SoulSilver versions.
*Rayquaza has the highest {{Stat|Attack}} stat of all {{type2|Dragon}} and {{type2|Flying}} Pokémon.
** Rayquaza is tied with {{p|Palkia}} and {{p|Dialga}} for highest {{stat|Special Attack}} of all {{type2|Dragon}} Pokémon.
** Rayquaza, {{p|Kyogre}}, Normal Forme {{p|Deoxys}}, Dialga and Palkia all have the third highest Special Attack of all Pokémon, beaten only by Attack Forme Deoxys and {{p|Mewtwo}}.
** Rayquaza has the highest Special Attack of all Flying-type Pokémon
*Rayquaza is the tallest legendary Pokémon.
*Rayquaza is the only legendary Pokémon to learn an [[HM]] move by level-up in the same generation that it's an HM.
*Rayquaza is the only legendary Pokémon that can be captured at a higher level than the Elite Four's Pokémon before becoming the champion. This only happens in {{game|Emerald}}.
*Not counting {{m|Hidden Power}} and {{m|Natural Gift}}, Rayquaza can learn damaging attacks of fifteen of the seventeen types, tying with {{p|Togekiss}}, {{p|Octillery}}, and {{p|Lucario}} for the most, not counting {{p|Mew}}, {{p|Smeargle}} or {{p|Arceus}}. It cannot learn any damaging {{t|Psychic}}- or {{type2|Poison}} moves.
*It is said that Rayquaza will come if {{p|Groudon}} and {{p|Kyogre}} are battling, but it didn't appear in the episodes ''[[AG097|Gaining Groudon]]'' and ''[[AG098|The Scuffle of Legends]]''.
*Rayquaza is the only [[trio master]] that is actually a member of its own trio.
*Out of the [[weather trio]], it is the only one with a secondary [[Elemental type|type]].
*Though Rayquaza can be fought by a Pokémon character in Super Smash Bros. Brawl's Subspace Emissary, it is not fought by any Pokémon characters when it first appears.
*Rayquaza is currently the only Pokémon with its [[base stats|base stat total]] that does not share the specific stat numbers with another Pokémon: {{p|Mewtwo}}, {{p|Lugia}}, and {{p|Ho-Oh}} all have a 90-90-106-110-130-154 distribution in different orders, while the [[dragon trio]] all have 90-100-100-120-120-150.
*Rayquaza and Mewtwo are the only Pokémon with their base stat total that do not have a [[signature move]].
*Rayquaza in every possible instance is mispelled as "Rayquayza" in the PC spin-off game [[Pokémon Team Turbo]].

===Origin===
Rayquaza is most likely based on the Hebrew legends of {{wp|Ziz}}, the unconquerable primal master of the sky. Its counterparts were {{wp|Behemoth}} and {{wp|Leviathan}}. Rayquaza's appearance also draws inspiration from other creatures of myth such as the {{wp|Japanese dragon}} and ''{{wp|lindworm}}''.
====Name origin====
Rayquaza's name is likely a combination of ''{{wp|ray (geometry)|ray}}'' and ''{{wp|quasar}}''. Although Rayquaza's Romanized name suggests its Japanese name is meant to be the same as its English name, it could be a combination of 烈 ''retsu'', violent or furious, 空 ''kū'', sky, and 座 ''za'', meaning seat or location. 烈空座 as a whole could be read to mean "one that sits in the ferocious heavens".

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Rayquaza
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Rayquaza
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 레쿠쟈 ''Rekuza''
*[[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese (Taiwan)]]: 烈空坐 ''Liè Kōng Zuò'' - From its Japanese name. 坐 (sit) can also be taken from 座 ''Zuò'' (seat/base/constellation)

==Related articles==
* [[Weather trio]]
* [[Rayquaza (movie 7)]]

==External links==
*[[wp:Rayquaza|Article on Wikipedia]]
*[http://fanlistings.czweb.org/rayquaza/ A Little Patch of Green], the fanlisting for Rayquaza.
*[http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea09.html Rayquaza's encounter in The Subspace Emmisary]

==Notes==
{{Legendary Pokémon}}

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[[Category:Pokémon that learn HM moves by level-up]]
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[[Category:Legendary Pokémon obtainable before the Elite Four]]
[[Category:Hoenn Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Trio masters]]
[[Category:Version mascots]]
[[Category:Legendary Trio Pokémon]]

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[[pt:Rayquaza (pokémon)]]

Talk:Rayquaza (Pokémon)

2010-09-01T14:55:51Z

Spenvdm: /* The Japanese Name */

Where did all the moves from before lv. 70 come from? And for Groudon and Kyogre, where did the ones before level 45 come from? Are they just speculation?--[[User:ObsessedMinunFan|Obsessed]][[User talk:ObsessedMinunFan|Minun]][[Special:Contributions/ObsessedMinunFan|Fan]] 02:06, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
:It's what the move tutor says it learns at those levels, I believe. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 02:53, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
::I just got Rayguaza, Groudon, and Kyogre on Emerald yesterday, and I'm looking at the Move Tutor thing right now. It doesn't list the levels anywhere. Is the person who posted them still active here?--[[User:ObsessedMinunFan|Obsessed]][[User talk:ObsessedMinunFan|Minun]][[Special:Contributions/ObsessedMinunFan|Fan]] 06:44, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
:::I believe people got that info by using a GameShark to get a very low level wild Rayquaza. That is the best way to get to know from what level the Pokémon learns the moves. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 12:28, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

== how are the status calculated ==

hi,
i would like to ask, how are the status graphic calculated, i mean i was trying to capt a pattern, but I just could not, i mean max speed for groudon and Kyogre at lv.100 is 306 and it is represented as a 90 in the graphic. same for rayquaza, max attack an sp.attack is 438 at lv.100 and the graphic shows 150 for both stats. so, how can i calculate the equivalent for the other pokemon? Please help me with this... :S

::See [[Stats#Formula]]. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 02:26, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

==Rock Smash==
It doesn't learn Rock Smash in Generation 4? --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 02:26, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
:It does. Someone must've left it out. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 01:06, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

==Speculation==
Well i was looking at the other 2 super-ancients and i thought, the markings on those 2 are, and this is proven in the anime, made by the orbs. and Rayquaza has similar markings, so does he have an, yet to be revealed, orb? [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 15:03, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
:I don't think his orb will be revealed any time soon. Because in the anime Ash travels to another region every 5 or so seasons. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 15:20, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
::We've gone past the third generation now so I would be surprised to see any further development on the weather trio. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:22, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Kyogre was in the Manaphy movie, so that makes me think that they won't be completely ignored.[[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 15:26, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
::::That was still Generation III. Of course they won't be ignored (see the Mismagius filler) but new information is being relegated to the Gen IV legends right now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:30, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::Sure there is often new information revealed on older Pokémon (for example, the episodes where Misty returned new information about Togepi/Togetic became revealed) but new information regarding Legends is pretty rare, especially something big like orb. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 16:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::Well, it would make a great part of a movie. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 14:48, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

It makes me wonder if there will be a movie to feature ''all'' the Legendaries battling it out to see who is the supreme Legendary. I would definately see that. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:I don't think that would be possible, when the amount of Pokémon are growing so are legendaries. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 10:02, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

::True, the battle may just end up destroying everything anyway. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:::It would be awesome though. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 21:54, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

To get back to the topic about the markings: Maybe Rayquaza's markings are also created by the orbs? Rayquaza is part of the Weather Trio, so couldn't the orbs affect Rayquaza as well? [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:56, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

:I don't think so; Groudon raised lands and Kyogre raised seas, what did rayquaza do? [[User:DragonTamer|DragonTamer]] 07:50, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

::Although it wasn't stated in the show or games, Rayquaza could have done something with the ozone/atmosphere like raising oxygen levels to support more life.--'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 21:50, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

== Sprite Changes? ==

Okay this might be nothing, but in the 3rd gen sprites inside it's mouth Rayquaza got Blue Color, while in the DP sprites inside it's like black or dark pink?
:I think its worth noting.ShinyPiKa 22:15, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::So do I, add it to the trivia section if you'd like. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 22:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Forgot to check back and see this discussion. In the first edit of this topic I didn't know I had to write my name, date and time. Sorry :/. [[User:Fidani16|Fidani16]] 16:12, 23 October 2008.
::::No need to apologize for something that happened over a month ago. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 14:20, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

== Origin, Name Origin ==

I don't see the resemblance of the Ziz in Rayquaza. I also don't see the resemblances of the Behemoth and the Leviathan in Groudon and Kyogre, respectively. Do we know where this information came from?? Can it be cited from anywhere?? I'm just wondering where that information came from, because it does not seem very believable to me. And also, I don't understand how Rayquaza's name can be derived from "ray"... [[User:Bnjelinski|Soon to be Mrs. Shirley]] 14:13, 18 October 2008
:It's not physical ''resemblance'' to Behemoth/Leviathan/Ziz, it's their thematic similarities. Both groups are huge, primordial monsters of land, sea, and sky.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 14:21, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
::Wait, how do you know what Ziz looks like? --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 06:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:::It's a giant bird big enough to block out the sun. Good enough, really.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 13:54, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

== Guardian of the Skies ==
I think its appropriate to put "Guardian of the Skies" in there [[User:DragonTamer|DragonTamer]] 12:13, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
:Who told you that? '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 16:53, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
::I agree with Hfc2x...but now that i think about it, didn't Rayquaza try to keep deoxys from entering the atmosphere in the 7th movie? And in mystery dungeon red and blue, Rayquaza also stopped the meteor that was heading straight for the planet. --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 19:01, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Then it's better to explain why it is the "Guardian of Skies". If it's supported by official sources, then I will not opose. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 02:55, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Can't you do that? I don't know how to say it. [[User:DragonTamer|DragonTamer]] 05:14, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== second ==

is it me or is rayquaza cathable a second time i see it again when i beat it .- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Slappy|Slappy]] ([[User talk:Slappy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Slappy|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:It's you.--The [[Blastoise (Pokémon)|Kk]][[Gary's Blastoise|ll]][[Blastoise (TCG)|nn]][[User:Kkllnn|ator]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| カメックス]] 22:07, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
::That happened in my pearl game. i battled and caught Palkia the first time i saw it. and later after i beat the rest of the game plot, i went back up to spear pillar and saw another palkia and i caught it. i don't know how that happened. --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 22:15, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
::: Either a) You are lying,
:::b) it was a glitch, or,
:::c) the game was hacked and/or fake.--The [[Blastoise (Pokémon)|Kk]][[Gary's Blastoise|ll]][[Blastoise (TCG)|nn]][[User:Kkllnn|ator]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| カメックス]] 22:18, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

==Flying Type==
I've noticed other pokemon's trivia sections, such as Heatran, include the fact that they have the highest of an individual stat for a specific type. Rayquaza has the highest attack and special attack of all flying types, but I was wondering whether this was worth noting, due to the fact that flying is and has always been a secondary type.

== The Japanese Name ==

Rekkūza? That doesn't sound similar enough to "Rayquaza." At least, that's what I believe. If it was "Rekkueza," then it would be similar, but... '''[[User:SharKing|SharKing]] [[User talk:SharKing|Productions]]''' 04:15, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:Ask GameFreak. It's their choice, really.—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 06:23, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

:If it would be "Rekkueza," then its Japanese name would be レックェザ, right? Hmm... [[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 12:02, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

:I'm glad someone else but me caught this. Yeah, I was about to ask about this myself. What do the official Japanese names say?

The trivia now say "座 ''za'', from universe". As far as I know 座 has nothing to do with the universe, except that you can find it at the end of constellation names. I even checked some dictionaries to be sure. 座, especially when pronounced "za", means "the place where one sits" i.e. "seat" or "location". So 烈空座 (Rekkūza) could mean something like "one that sits in the ferocious heavens". I'll go ahead and change the article. Feel free to revert, but then please discuss why. --[[User:Spenvdm|Spenvdm]] 14:55, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

== Why is this and every other pokemon article protected? ==

^question.

[[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 21:38, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
:Read message from the editor on the main page and the latest story on Bulbanews. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:39, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

== Main picture ==

Why aren't we using its Emerald artwork anymore? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 20:08, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

:Hmm? The current picture is Ken Sugimori's artwork for R/S/E. Unless you're talking about a different "main" picture? --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 01:14, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

::Ken Sugimori released new artwork for Rayquaza when Emerald was released (like he did for the Hoenn starters), I'm sure it used to be used in the article. The current picture is fine though. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 18:57, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia. Three fingers. ==

Japanese Dragons is three fingers. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 20:58, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Johto

2010-09-01T00:49:23Z

Spenvdm: /* History */ "modern Latin alphabet" would be more accurate than "English alphabet", and is also the standard in the Unown article.

{{Samename|musical group|Johto (musical group)}}
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{{RegionInfobox |
|regioncolor=Johto
|name=Johto
|jname=ジョウト|
|tmname=Jōto |
|image=HGSS Johto.jpg |
|caption=Artwork of the Johto region from [[Generation IV]] |
|introduction={{game|Gold and Silver|s}} |
|professor=[[Professor Elm]] |
|starter={{p|Chikorita}}, {{p|Cyndaquil}}, and {{p|Totodile}} |
|villain=[[Team Rocket]] |
|league=[[Johto League]] |
|location=[[Indigo Plateau]] (games) [[Mt. Silver]] (anime) |
|pokelist=[[List of Pokémon by New Pokédex number|New Pokédex]]{{sup|GSC}} [[List of Pokémon by Johto Pokédex number|Johto Pokédex]]{{sup|HGSS}} |
|season=[[Pokémon: The Johto Journeys|The Johto Journeys]] (3) [[Pokémon: Johto League Champions|Johto League Champions]] (4) [[Pokémon: Master Quest|Master Quest]] (5) |
|series={{series2|Original}}
|generation={{gen|II}}, {{gen|IV}}
|games={{v2|Gold and Silver|s}} {{v2|Crystal}} {{v2|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}
|manga=[[PS091]]
}}
[[File:Johto.png|thumb|right|250px|In-game map of the Johto region from [[Generation IV]]]]
[[File:JohtoII.png|thumb|right|250px|Artwork of the Johto region from [[Generation II]]]]
[[File:Johto Anime.png|thumb|right|250px|Anime-based map of the Johto region]]
The '''Johto''' region (Japanese: '''ジョウト地方''' ''Jōto-chihō'') is a large area located west of [[Kanto]]. Johto and Kanto are part of a large landmass, with everything west of [[Indigo Plateau]] falling in the Johto region. Though it is unlike Kanto in that its name is not directly based on that of a region of Japan, [[Junichi Masuda]] has come forward in his director's column naming the kanji that inspired the name mean "castle palace" (城都) or "lattice-shaped palace" (条都); this meaning is connected to the city of {{wp|Nara, Nara|Nara}}, which was the basis for [[Violet City]].

First explored in {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}, it is home to an additional 100 [[Pokémon]] that were not present in [[Generation I|previous games]]. In the [[Generation II]] games and {{game3|HeartGold and SoulSilver|their remakes|s}}, players begin their journey in [[New Bark Town]], where [[Professor Elm]] offers either {{p|Chikorita}}, {{p|Cyndaquil}} or {{p|Totodile}} to beginning [[Pokémon Trainer]]s. The English-version names of most of the cities in Johto are also the names of plants or things related to plants.

==Geography==
The geography of Johto is much like that of Kanto. It is marked by a mountain range in the north and a vast sea to the south.
===Locations===
====Cities/Towns====
* [[New Bark Town]]
* [[Cherrygrove City]]
* [[Violet City]]
* [[Azalea Town]]
* [[Goldenrod City]]
* [[Ecruteak City]]
* [[Olivine City]]
* [[Cianwood City]]
* [[Mahogany Town]]
* [[Blackthorn City]]
* [[Safari Zone Gate]] (HeartGold and SoulSilver only)
* [[Frontier Access]] (HeartGold and SoulSilver only)

====Areas of interest====
* [[Dark Cave]]
* [[Sprout Tower]]
* [[Ruins of Alph]]
* [[Union Cave]]
* [[Slowpoke Well]]
* [[Ilex Forest]]
* [[Goldenrod Radio Tower|Radio Tower]]
* [[National Park]]
* [[Burned Tower]]
* [[Mt. Mortar]]
* [[Lake of Rage]]
* [[Bell Tower]]
* [[Whirl Islands]]
* [[Ice Path]]
* [[Dragon's Den]]
* [[Tohjo Falls]] (actually in Kanto)
* [[Mt. Silver]]
* [[Indigo Plateau]] (actually in Kanto)
* {{jo|Battle Tower}} (Crystal only)
* [[Cliff Edge Gate]] (HeartGold and SoulSilver only)
* [[Cliff Cave]] (HeartGold and SoulSilver only)
* [[Embedded Tower]] (HeartGold and SoulSilver only)
* [[Pokéathlon Dome]] (HeartGold and SoulSilver only)
* {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}} (HeartGold and SoulSilver only)
* [[Johto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]] (HeartGold and SoulSilver only)

====Anime City/Town/Locations====
* [[Charicific Valley]]

====Routes====
Johto's routes are numbered {{rtn|29|Johto}}-{{rtn|46|Johto}}, starting at the route number that Kanto (in [[Generation II]]) left off from, {{rtn|28|Kanto}}. Route 28 itself actually partially stretches into Johto, though is known as Silver Cave when in Johto. Routes {{rtn|47|Johto}} and {{rtn|48|Johto}} are added in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}} to connect [[Cianwood City]] to Johto's [[Johto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]].
{{-}}

==League==
{{main|Johto League}}

The Johto League is the regional [[Pokémon League]] of the Johto region. Johto and Kanto share a single [[Elite Four]], located at the Indigo Plateau. Eight Johto League [[Badge]]s are required to participate in [[Pokémon League#Types of competitions|League competitions]].
===Gym Leaders===
{| align="center" style="background: #00647f; {{roundy|10px}} border: 4px solid #00647f;" colspan=4 cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align="center"
! style="background: #00647f;" colspan="4" | {{color2|1cb0d9|Johto League}}
|-
! style="background: #1cb0d9; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color|00647f|Gym Leader Japanese}}
! style="background: #1cb0d9;" | {{color|00647f|Location Japanese}}
! style="background: #1cb0d9;" | {{color2|00647f|Elemental type|Type}}
! style="background: #1cb0d9; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|00647f|Badge}}
{{gldr|type=Flying|pic=VSFalkner.png|ldr=Falkner|djap=ハヤト|drm=Hayato|loc=Violet City|cjap=キキョウシティ|crm=Kikyō City|bdg=Zephyr}}
{{gldr|type=Bug|pic=VSBugsy.png|ldr=Bugsy|djap=ツクシ|drm=Tsukushi|loc=Azalea Town|cjap=ヒワダタウン|crm=Hiwada Town|bdg=Hive}}
{{gldr|type=Normal|pic=VSWhitney.png|ldr=Whitney|djap=アカネ|drm=Akane|loc=Goldenrod City|cjap=コガネシティ|crm=Kogane City|bdg=Plain}}
{{gldr|type=Ghost|pic=VSMorty.png|ldr=Morty|djap=マツバ|drm=Matsuba|loc=Ecruteak City|cjap=エンジュシティ|crm=Enju City|bdg=Fog}}
{{gldr|type=Fighting|pic=VSChuck.png|ldr=Chuck|djap=シジマ|drm=Shijima|loc=Cianwood City|cjap=タンバシティ|crm=Tanba City|bdg=Storm}}
{{gldr|type=Steel|pic=VSJasmine.png|ldr=Jasmine|djap=ミカン|drm=Mikan|loc=Olivine City|cjap=アサギシティ|crm=Asagi City|bdg=Mineral}}
{{gldr|type=Ice|pic=VSPryce.png|ldr=Pryce|djap=ヤナギ|drm=Yanagi|loc=Mahogany Town|cjap=チョウジタウン|crm=Chōji Town|bdg=Glacier}}
{{gldrb|type=Dragon|pic=VSClair.png|ldr=Clair|djap=イブキ|drm=Ibuki|loc=Blackthorn City|cjap=フスベシティ|crm=Fusube City|bdg=Rising}}
|}
{{-}}

===Elite Four===
{{elt/h|gen=IV|l=1cb0d9|d=00647f|league=Johto}}
{{elt|type=Psychic|pic=VSWill.png|m=Will|mjap=イツキ|mrm=Itsuki}}
{{elt|type=Poison|pic=VSKoga.png|m=Koga|mjap=キョウ|mrm=Kyō}}
{{elt|type=Fighting|pic=VSBruno.png|m=Bruno|mjap=シバ|mrm=Siba}}
{{elt|type=Dark|pic=VSKaren.png|m=Karen|mjap=カリン|mrm=Karin}}
{{eltb|type=Dragon|pic=VSLance.png|m=Lance|mjap=ワタル|mrm=Wataru}}
|}
{{-}}

==Battle Frontier==
{{main|Battle Frontier (Generation IV)}}
===Frontier Brains===
{| align="center" style="background: #00647f; {{roundy|10px}} border: 4px solid #00647f;" colspan="4" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align="center"
! style="background: #00647f;" colspan="4" | {{color2|1cb0d9|Battle Frontier (Generation IV)|Johto Battle Frontier}}
|-
! style="background: #1cb0d9;{{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color|00647f|Frontier Brain Japanese}}
! style="background: #1cb0d9;" | {{color|00647f|Facility Japanese}}
! colspan="2" style="background: #1cb0d9; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|00647f|Commemorative print|Prints}}
|- align="center" style="background:#{{tower color}}"
| [[File:VSPalmer.png]] {{color2|{{tower color dark}}|Tower Tycoon}} {{color2|{{tower color dark}}|Tower Tycoon Palmer|Palmer}} {{color|{{tower color dark}}|タワータイクーンクロツグ Tower Tycoon Kurotsugu}}
| {{color2|{{tower color dark}}|Battle Frontier (Generation IV)#Battle Tower|Battle Tower}} {{color|{{tower color dark}}|バトルタワー Battle Tower}}
| {{print|tower|Silver|E}} {{print|tower|Silver|Ly}} {{color|{{tower color dark}}|Silver Tower Prints}}
| {{print|tower|Gold|E}} {{print|tower|Gold|Ly}} {{color|{{tower color dark}}|Gold Tower Prints}}
|- align="center" style="background:#{{factory color}}"
| [[File:VSThorton.png]] {{color2|{{factory color dark}}|Factory Head}} {{color2|{{factory color dark}}|Factory Head Thorton|Thorton}} {{color|{{factory color dark}}|ファクトリーヘッドネジキ Factory Head Nejiki}}
| {{color2|{{factory color dark}}|Battle Frontier (Generation IV)#Battle Factory|Battle Factory}} {{color|{{factory color dark}}|バトルファクトリー Battle Factory}}
| {{print|factory|Silver|E}} {{print|factory|Silver|Ly}} {{color|{{factory color dark}}|Silver Factory Prints}}
| {{print|factory|Gold|E}} {{print|factory|Gold|Ly}} {{color|{{factory color dark}}|Gold Factory Prints}}
|- align="center" style="background:#{{arcade color}}"
| [[File:VSDahlia.png]] {{color2|{{arcade color dark}}|Arcade Star Dahlia}} {{color|{{arcade color dark}}|ルーレットゴーデスダリア Roulette Goddess Dahlia}}
| {{color2|{{arcade color dark}}|Battle Frontier (Generation IV)#Battle Arcade|Battle Arcade}} {{color|{{arcade color dark}}|バトルルーレット Battle Roulette}}
| {{print|arcade|Silver|E}} {{print|arcade|Silver|Ly}} {{color|{{arcade color dark}}|Silver Arcade Prints}}
| {{print|arcade|Gold|E}} {{print|arcade|Gold|Ly}} {{color|{{arcade color dark}}|Gold Arcade Prints}}
|- align="center" style="background:#{{castle color}}"
| [[File:VSDarach and Caitlin.png]] {{color2|{{castle color dark}}|Castle Valet Darach and Caitlin}} {{color|{{castle color dark}}|キャッスルバトラーコクラン&カトレア Castle Butler Kokuran & Cattleya}}
| {{color2|{{castle color dark}}|Battle Frontier (Generation IV)#Battle Castle|Battle Castle}} {{color|{{castle color dark}}|バトルキャッスル Battle Castle}}
| {{print|castle|Silver|E}} {{print|castle|Silver|Ly}} {{color|{{castle color dark}}|Silver Castle Prints}}
| {{print|castle|Gold|E}} {{print|castle|Gold|Ly}} {{color|{{castle color dark}}|Gold Castle Prints}}
|- align="center"
| style="background:#{{hall color}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | [[File:VSArgenta.png]] {{color2|{{hall color dark}}|Hall Matron Argenta}} {{color|{{hall color dark}}|ステージマドンナケイト Stage Madonna Kate}}
| style="background:#{{hall color}}" | {{color2|{{hall color dark}}|Battle Frontier (Generation IV)#Battle Hall|Battle Hall}} {{color|{{hall color dark}}|バトルステージ Battle Stage}}
| style="background:#{{hall color}};" | {{print|hall|Silver|E}} {{print|hall|Silver|Ly}} {{color|{{hall color dark}}|Silver Hall Prints}}
| style="background:#{{hall color}}; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{print|hall|Gold|E}} {{print|hall|Gold|Ly}} {{color|{{hall color dark}}|Gold Hall Prints}}
|} 

==Culture==
===History===
After Johto was created, alongside [[Kanto]], by {{p|Groudon}} and {{p|Kyogre}} at the beginning of the {{pkmn|universe}}, Pokémon no one had seen before began inhabiting the region. 1500 years before [[Generation I]], the earliest known system for writing is developed and used at the [[Ruins of Alph]] of Johto. Archaeologists are currently unsure whether the nearly identical {{p|Unown}} preceded or succeeded the modern {{wp|Latin alphabet}}, but it is assumed they share some sort of connection. Approximately 700 years before Generation II, the twin [[Bell Tower|Bell]] and [[Burned Tower|Brass Tower]]s were constructed in [[Ecruteak City]], and {{p|Lugia}} and {{p|Ho-Oh}} perched at their tops. The two lived at the tops of the towers until, 550 years later, Brass Tower burned to the ground, killing three Pokémon trapped inside. Lugia fled to the [[Whirl Islands]], while Ho-Oh, after resurrecting the Pokémon as the [[legendary beasts]] {{p|Raikou}}, {{p|Entei}}, and {{p|Suicune}}, flew off in search of a pure-hearted Trainer.

===Connection to Japan===
{{main|Pokémon world in relation to the real world}}

Regardless of their proximity, the people of Johto and those of Kanto are set apart by many cultural differences. Johto is based on the real {{wp|Kansai region}} in Japan. This trait is most noticeable in its geography; however, the Kansai influence also defines the culture in Johto. Kansai residents are known for their attitudes against typical Japanese standards, mostly due to the historical rivalry between the region, once the major seat of political power, and the real {{wp|Kantō region}} where Tokyo, the current capital, is located. The soil of the Kansai region is rich, unlike the volcanic Kantō region, and this is perhaps referenced by the in-game Kanto region's inability to maintain a [[berry]] crop in [[Generation II]] and [[Generation III]]. People from Kansai are considered to be more relaxed. Kansai and Kantō, however different, are the two most important areas of Honshū, the largest island in Japan, and, much like Johto and Kanto, represent a harmony of contrasting cultures living together. The cultural divide is most noticeable in the games, as the player talks to and learns about the denizens of both regions.

Certain cultural aspects of the Johto region are deep-seated in Japanese history, as well. Kyoto, which is probably the basis for Ecruteak City, is considered the cultural center of Japan. Kyoto and its many historical temples, shrines, palaces, gardens and architecture have been preserved. This connection to history is reflected in many areas of Johto. However, Goldenrod City (like Osaka) is typically modern.

==In Generation IV==
Johto returns in [[Generation IV]]'s {{2v|HeartGold|SoulSilver}} much as [[Kanto]] returned in [[Generation III]]'s {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}, with its graphics boosted to the current level on the [[Nintendo DS]]. All areas from its Generation II iteration return, and several new areas are included, such as the [[Johto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]], with new [[Route|Routes]] {{rtn|47|Johto}} and {{rtn|48|Johto}} leading to it. Like in Generation III Kanto, a special image of a landmark is shown briefly when it is entered. Other than this, Johto remains for the most part much the same as it was.

==Trivia==
* Johto is the only main region in which {{p|Pikachu}} is not found in the wild, though Pikachu are available in [[Generation II]] when the player travels to [[Kanto]] later in the game.
* It is the only region in which [[Ash Ketchum]] did not meet a new {{ashfr|traveling companion}}.
* Johto is the only region without:
** a [[Cycling Road]]
** a Pokémon burial ground
** its own set of [[Fossil|fossil Pokémon]]
** its own [[Victory Road]]
** a museum
** an autonomous [[Pokémon League]] (shared with Kanto)
** its own storage system developer (Bill also developed that of Kanto)
** its own villainous team (Team Rocket is shared with Kanto)
** prior to Generation IV, Johto was also the only region without a [[Johto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]] and [[List of Pokémon by Johto Pokédex number|true regional Pokédex]].
* This lack is mostly due to the fact that Generation II is very dependent on [[Generation I]], and as the latter half of the game's storyline takes place in Kanto, there was no need to repeat many things.
* Johto is the only region where the first Gym doesn't specialize in {{t|Rock}} types (likely due to Kanto's [[Brock]] doing so as there is no overlap in the two regions' Gyms). Despite this, Jasmine is said to have once used Rock-types.
* In Generation II and IV, between Johto and [[Kanto]], the Dark-type and the Ground-type are the only types not represented by an official Gym. [[Viridian City]], whose previous gym leader [[Giovanni]], had the Ground-type. However, when Giovanni left the gym after being defeated by {{ga|Red}}, he was replaced by {{ga|Blue}}, who does not have a type specialty. [[Karen]] of the [[Elite Four]] uses Dark-type Pokémon, making the Ground-type the only type to not have a [[gym leader]] or Elite Four member specialize in it in Johto and Kanto for Generation II and IV.
* Unused location data for Johto (similar to the data for [[Hoenn]] and [[Kanto]] used for Pal Park) exists within the programming of Generation IV's games. Pokémon actually caught in Johto, however, display as being from "[[Faraway place]]" when traded to a game taking place in [[Sinnoh]], much like Pokémon caught in a Platinum-exclusive location do when traded to Diamond or Pearl.
* Kanto and Johto are the only regions that are connected to each other by land, and are likewise the only regions to add additional routes in their second appearances.
* Johto is the only main region in which the [[starter Pokémon]], throughout their evolutions, stay one [[type]] ({{t|Grass}}, {{t|Water}}, and {{t|Fire}}).
*Johto has the fewest [[route]]s of any region, with 18 in [[Generation II]] and 20 in [[Generation IV]].

===Names===
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{johto color}};"
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|-
| Japanese
| ジョウト ''Jōto''
| Can be from 城都 "castle palace" or 条都 "lattice-shaped palace".
|-
| English
| Johto
| From the Japanese name.
|-
| Korean
| 성도 ''Seongdo''
| From the Japanese name.
|-
| Chinese (Taiwan)
| 城都 ''Chéngdū''
| Also derived from the Japanese name. Can mean "walled capital" or "metropolis".
|}

==See also==
* {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}
* {{game|Crystal}}
* {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}

{{Regions|Johto}}
{{Johto}}

[[Category:Johto locations|*]]
[[Category:Gold, Silver and Crystal locations|*Johto]]

[[de:Johto]]
[[es:Johto]]
[[fr:Johto]]
[[ja:ジョウト地方]]
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Talk:HM slave

2010-08-30T18:43:03Z

Spenvdm: /* Best mules? */

== Best mules? ==
I didn't know if this was worth mentioning or not (sorry if it isn't) but after a little research I've always used Golduck and Tropius. Between the two of them they can learn all 8 HMs, which only takes up two slots with no switching. {{unsigned|Ndoki}}

:I had the same with the Tropius-Tentacruel duo, which I found pretty much by chance. For this reason I transferred a random Tropius to my Leaf Green later on.
:For a pokémon to team up well with Tropius you only need a water pokémon that can learn all water HMs plus one other HM, so with a little research on Bulbapedia I found another good amount of candidates in Hoenn. I excluded starters and legendaries.
:*'''Water HMs + cut''': Tentacool &up, Crawdaunt
:*'''Water HMs + strength''': Psyduck &up, Gyarados, Maril &up, Quagsire (Emerald), Sharpedo, Wailmer &up, Wishcash, Crawdaunt, Spheal &up.
:*'''Water HMs + flash''': Psyduck &up, Staryu &up, Chinchou &up, Wooper &up (Emerald), Lotad &up (Saphire and Emerald)
:*'''Water HMs + rock smash''': Psyduck &up, Gyarados, Maril &up, Wooper &up (Emerald), Lombre &up (Saphire and Emerald), Sharpedo, Wailmer &up, Wishcash, Crawdaunt, Spheal &up, Relicanth.
:So as you see, it might be more useful to make a list of water pokémon that ''don't'' make a perfect team with Tropius in Hoenn. By the way, you don't have the HM Dive in Fire Red and Leaf Green, so if you have a Tropius there, you can choose to use your {{TM|28|Dig}} on a water pokémon like Psyduck, Slowpoke, Poliwhirl or Krabby as your second slave.
:And from what I can tell from the current list, Bibarel and Skarmory make a good combo for HMs in Diamond, Pearl and Platinum. --[[User:Spenvdm|Spenvdm]] 18:43, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

== Topic ==
can anyone give me a list of HM mules? {{unsigned|Link-BOX}}
:Depends on what the exact definition is. I know that {{p|Gyarados}} and {{p|Bibarel}} can both learn HMs to fill up their moves. {{p|Mew}}, of course, can. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 18:50, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
::Every Pokémon can be a HM Slave. For example my Yan Long (my female Onix) has 3 HM moves in her moveset: Strength, Rock Climb, Rock Smash. She's nothing more than a HM "mule". I use her only to get through dungeon. Every Pokémon who learns HMs can be a HM Slave, there is no specific list. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 20:43, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I suppose that if you want a combination of two Pokémon to have four HMs each to fill out their moveset so that between them you have all eight HMs, Tropius/Chinchou in RSE is one such combination (and Kyogre/Rayquaza), as is Bibarel/Skarmory in DP. And of course, two Mews. -[[User:Rukario448|ルカリオ]] 14:18, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Also Wailord. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:36, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

== Page name ==

In the many years I have been online and browsing Pokémon websites, this is the first time I have seen the term "HM Mule" used. In fact, the Google search results display a dramatic difference between the two terms (with omitted results included), HM Slave giving 540 results, and HM Mule giving only 117. And a large number of the latter have little or no relation to Pokémon whatsoever. Wouldn't it make more sense to name the article after the more common term?

<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. [[User:System Error|System Error]] 19:54, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree with System Error. I vote we move this page. - [[User:Jonah|Jonah]] 20:04, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok, as a count from today, "HM Mule" 111 Google hits; "HM Slave" 592, and "HM Bitch" 306. Move page to "HM Slave", and add a redirect page for "HM Bitch" to it?" (This page is also the first time I've seen "HM Mule"; I've previously used the other two terms, with a preference for the latter.) -[[User:Rukario448|ルカリオ]] 14:15, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

What about HM Whore? I've heard that a lot. So that should be a redirect, shouldn't it?--[[User:Goukazaru|Goukazaru]] 16:15, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I've only heard of HM slaves, although I (being me) call them HMers, but that's just what I say, but that in google and you get zilch-o. [[Image:Ani197MS.gif]][[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight Celtic]][[Image:Ani148MS.gif]] 16:54, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Maybe the page should be called HM Slaves/Mules, or something???

Although, I personally use HM Monkeys.
Not my decision, though. It's fine if you don't use my suggestion, I don't expect you to.
[[User:Mewtwo777|I am Darth Mewtwo... Fear me, and my team made entirely of Mewtwo!!!]] 16:09, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

== Defog? ==

Back at my old forums, someone posted something about Defog, calling it another Rapid spin sans damage. He/She/It said that defog could remove Stealth Rocks, Spikes, and other things I can't remember. Everyone seemed to believe said He/She/It, has anyone tested that? [[Image:Ani197MS.gif]][[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight Celtic]][[Image:Ani148MS.gif]] 16:59, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, Defog DOES remove Stealth Rock and Spikes. And Toxic Spikes, Light Screen, Reflect, Safeguard, and Mist. On your opponent's side of the battlefield. So yeah. It's bad if you set up Spikes/Stealth Rock/Toxic Spikes, but good if your opponent set up anything else. Oh, and obviously it clears fog from the battle. --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 01:02, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

So then why is it considered the 'worst' tm ever.. I remember flash being pretty damn useless.. [[User:Sylari|Sylari]] 21:26, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

not TM,Hm [[User:GoldsWigglytuff|GoldsWigglytuff]]

I assume because most trainers feel the lowering of one's accuracy is far more frustrating then the removal of spikes. --[[User:The Great Snorlax|The Great Snorlax]] 15:44, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

== Question. ==

Is there ''anything'' besides Mew that can learn all five/seven/eight in a specific generation? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:41, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:Well, there's {{p|Smeargle}}... in a way. But then he wasn't introduced until [[Generation II]].. - [[User talk:SpontaneousCombusken|s.]][[User:SpontaneousCombusken|'''Combusken''']] 05:45, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:There's also {{p|Arceus}} in [[Generation IV]]...[[User:ShadowLugiaEx|ShadowLugiaEx]] 17:19, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

== Dragonite ==
Dragonite and Bibarel can learn all of the HM moves between them (although it's a trek to train a Dragonite, but better than using a Lugia). [[User:King Neoterikos|King Neoterikos]] 08:15, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Tropius and Bibarel can also learn them all. Of course, Tropius is tough to find unless you have Platinum or access to Pal Park. {{unsigned|Osiris32}}

== So ==

Opinions on my listing revamp? Should I kill the on-field moves and leave it as HM-only? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:56, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

== Disagreement ==

As MAGNEDETH argues in the edit made on December 4 of 2009 about the tables made by me and edited later by TTEchidna (sorry for the awful mess XD TTEchidna's version rules):

"Most HM slaves are incredibly common Pokémon, typically those which can be captured on the first routes of a given game." - these examples are ANYTHING but...

I agree with him in some points, first of all... "Any common pokémon capable of learning HMs can become an HM Slave" yes,
second... "typically those pokémon are captured at the beginning of the game because you need to use this abilities" yes, this is also true, BUT... the purpose of the table mentioned before was to solve the question that almost every pokémon gamer has asked himself at some point of the games, "Wich are the best pokémons in each generation to carry my HMs and Field moves?", the best and logical answer is "the pokémon who can learn the most quantity of HMs per game", obviously you can't left this task to a single pokémon since they can only learn four moves, so the idea is to distribute the HMs and Field Moves of a certain generation onto the minimum amount of HM slaves possible, maybe you'll need several HM slaves at the beginning but at some point of the game you can say "Why not concentrate all those abilities onto the minimum pokémon combination possible? this way I can throw away all those several incredibly common HM slaves that I have".

So, my point is... the tables mentioned before wasn't random examples of what an HM slave can be, or examples of common pokémons (in the meaning of not rare) that can be HM slaves, they are, according to most people, the best pokémons of each generation for being HM Slave (If you don't believe me read other forums); and this tables follows the following rules:

* The tables shows only pokémons capable of perform HMs and field moves.
* The tables shows the pokémons most compatible with HMs and field moves.
* The tables shows only pokémons capable of fill their four moves with HMs and/or field moves.
* This pokémons are combinable in the way that every HM or field move is covered between a minimum combination of pokémons.
* The tables covers and allows to view wich are all the HMs and field moves for every generation.

Obviously there's not exist one unique combination for this, but, for example, if you want to have all the eight field moves of Generation I in the best pokémon combination possible, you know that you need at least 2 HM slaves wich is the minimum of pokémons necesary to cover all the eight field moves (HMs & TMs wich do so), so, instead of investigate wich pokémon can learn wich move and so on, you can check the table, pick two pokémons, compare their possible moves and decide what is the best for you; for that reason I've decided to restore the tables until someone else suggests something better. I'll try to improve the meaning of the tables changing the title "common HM slaves" to something else to not confuse people between "most commonly used pokémons for HM Slaves because of their compability with HMs" than "Examples of Common Pókemons able to be HM Slaves".

Ok, sorry for this huge explanation and sorry for my poor grammar in english (it's not my native language but I'm practicing), I'm just trying to be part and contribute (even a little) with this wonderful community, greetings. -[[User:Daipop|Daipop]] 20:52, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
:I agree that this is a page worth expanding upon. Maybe we limit what we add by having a minimum limit to how many HM or Field moves that Pokemon can have and be included? 6 or more sounds good to me. Any suggestions? --[[User:Fallen Reality|Fallen Reality]] 17:07, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
::I'm removing Milk Drink and Softboiled since they are specific to very few (1 or 2) Pokemon as soon as Gen 1+2 templates are unlocked. It's pointless to have them on the charts as I see it. --[[User:Fallen Reality|Fallen Reality]] 05:56, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

== Update for HGSS? ==
Having looked at the list purely out of interest, i thought it was very DPP centric, *most* of the pokemon are quite difficult to obtain in HGSS.
One suggestion i have that is significantly easier to obtain in HGSS than other games is kangaskhan, available from the first course on the pokewalker, and in this game learns 6/8 HMs and can learn dig as a bonus. Is it worth adding this to the list? Along with others that are possible better fits to HGSS? {{unsigned|Dudemango}}
:The article is known to be incomplete. If you can help expand it, that would be great. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:32, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

== Farfetch'd?! ==

How's Farfetch'd on the list? It only knows two HMs/field moves, Cut and Fly. So... Should we take it out?--[[User:Valorum27|Valorum27]] 05:18, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

== Tentacool ==

Tentacool/cruel can learn Cut plus various Water-type HMs depending on the generation. [[User:Kylegetsspam|Kylegetsspam]] 02:42, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

== Too Limited ==

I just started a new game in Crystal and found this page. I was very excited when I found it, but very disappointed when I looked at it. My specific situation is that I neet to teach cut to someone, but don't want to just waste a Pokemon with it. I also have flash, so ideally I would teach cut and flash to one Pokemon and that Pokemon could learn another move later. But this list only includes 6 Pokemon, none of which are available to me at this point. And only two can even learn cut (Mew and Bayleef), neither of which will ever be available to me in this game. I think that ideally, this page would be an extensive list of options, rather than a few almost perfect options that are only available late in the game. This would be much more useful for people in my situation if it included every Pokemon that can learn a minimum of three HMs. [[User:Pathock|Pathock]] 22:06, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:Two things.
:# This article is rather incomplete at the moment.
:# The idea of this article is to list Pokémon which can learn many HM moves. A lot of these aren't available until later in the games, so you may find you need to catch a common low level Pokémon to teach Cut, and then box it later on when you can get something which can learn more HM moves.
:In the mean time, you may find {{DL|Cut (move)|Generation IV|this list}} helpful. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:23, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Late in the game, you don't need very many HMs. You just need things like surf and fly for getting around. It's before you beat the game that you have to worry about covering many HMs with as few Pokemon as possible because you need the space for your real Pokemon. I think that the purpose of this page should be helping people to find good HM slaves, not listing Pokemon that know five or more HMs. That's not even helpful when they can only learn four. By the way, I ended up using Bellsprout because it can learn flash and cut, later teaching surf to Totodile, strength, rock smash, whirlpool, and waterfall to a Psyduck, and then fly to Pidgey. [[User:Pathock|Pathock]] 22:34, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
::I agree with the idea that we should cover Pokémon that people playing the game may need to have early on as well as those that learn a large number. Bellsprout learning flash and cut gets you through the beginning of HGSS but means you need extra Pokémon with you to go anywhere. I have 4 early Pokemon that do nothing more then carry HMs in HG and as many in Pearl. But I do belive that if it were a comprehensive list people could easily see what they wanted or even what to traid over. In HGSS you can get Kangaskhan from a Pokéwalker course at the beginning like I did (2) and potentially teach her HM01,03,04,06,08, & TM28. I would be happy to go through my walkthroughs and add in a choprehensive list to Gen 3&4 if no one objects. [[User:011284mm|011284mm]] 10:32, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

HM slave

2010-08-30T18:09:53Z

Spenvdm: /* Generation III */ Lombre and Spheal can learn these exact same moves as their successors, but don't require training or water stones, so they are more fit as a cheap slave.

{{incomplete}}
An '''HM slave''', or sometimes '''HM mule''', is a Pokémon which is in the party not to be used in {{pkmn|battle}}, but to provide the use of [[HM]] moves or other {{cat|moves usable outside of battle}} that typically are not suitable for a powerful team. An HM slave itself is usually considered to be a Pokémon that can have all four of its moves taken up by HMs, and occasionally by any move usable outside of battle.

Most HM slaves are incredibly common Pokémon, typically those which can be captured on the first [[routes]] of a given game. A majority of them are {{type2|Normal}}, which is fitting, considering that this type is shared with three of the eight current HMs, and {{m|Rock Smash}}, though it is {{t|Fighting}}, is also usually available to them as well. {{type2|Water}} Pokémon are also common, as they also have three HM moves which share their type, and many are also able to use at least one or two of the other five. Because of these two tendencies, as well as its typing, {{p|Bibarel}} is often regarded as the ideal HM slave.

Due to both {{m|Fly}} and {{m|Defog}} sharing the {{type2|Flying}}, Pokémon of this type are also considered to be good HM slaves in Generation IV, especially considering Defog's effect does nothing to harm the opponent directly at all (while Flash lowered the opponent's accuracy, causing moves to sometimes miss, Defog merely lowers their evasiveness). HM slaves like {{p|Tropius}} and {{p|Pelipper}} are ideal for these roles since they are capable of using other HM moves along with Fly and Defog.

Typically, [[legendary Pokémon]] like {{p|Lugia}} and most especially {{p|Mew}} can learn many, if not all, HM moves. Because their high stats mean they are ''incredibly'' useful for battle, most consider it a waste to put ''any'' HM moves, aside from {{m|Surf}}, {{m|Waterfall}}, or perhaps [[Generation IV]]'s more powerful {{m|Fly}}, on a legendary, especially an event legendary like Mew, available only occasionally directly from [[Nintendo]] itself.

For Generation III, an example of two Pokémon learning all eight of the HMs and are available in the Hoenn region are Tropius (Cut, Fly, Strength and Rock Smash) and Psyduck (Surf, Flash, Waterfall and Dive).

==Most compatible HM slaves for each generation==
===Generation I===
{{Lop/hm/header|5|3|{{red color light}}|{{red color}}|{{green color}}}}
{{lop/hm-1|080|Slowbro|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|no}}
{{lop/hm-1|083|Farfetch'd|yes|yes|no|no|no|no|no|no}}
{{lop/hm-1|113|Chansey|no|no|no|yes|yes|no|yes|yes}}
{{lop/hm-1|151|Mew|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
|} 

===Generation II===
{{Lop/hm/header|7|5|{{gold color light}}|{{gold color}}|{{silver color}}}}
{{lop/hm-2|054|Psyduck|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|no|no|no|yes}}
{{lop/hm-2|080|Slowbro|no|no|yes|yes|yes|no|no|yes|no|no|no|yes}}
{{lop/hm-2|113|Chansey|no|no|no|yes|yes|no|no|no|no|yes|no|yes}}
{{lop/hm-2|130|Gyarados|no|no|yes|yes|no|yes|yes|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{lop/hm-2|151|Mew|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{lop/hm-2|153|Bayleef|yes|no|no|yes|yes|no|no|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{lop/hm-2|160|Feraligatr|yes|no|yes|yes|no|yes|no|yes|no|no|no}}
|} 

===Generation III===
{{Lop/hm/header|8|3|{{ruby color light}}|{{ruby color}}|{{sapphire color}}}}
{{lop/hm-3|054|Psyduck|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{lop/hm-3|130|Gyarados|no|no|yes|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|no|no|yes}}
{{lop/hm-3|151|Mew|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{lop/hm-3|227|Skarmory|yes|yes|no|no|no|yes|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{lop/hm-3|235|Smeargle|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{lop/hm-3|264|Linoone|yes|no|yes|yes|no|yes|no|no|yes|no|yes}}
{{lop/hm-3|271|Lombre|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|no|no|yes}}
{{lop/hm-3|341|Corphish|yes|no|yes|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{lop/hm-3|357|Tropius|yes|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{lop/hm-3|363|Spheal|no|no|yes|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|no|no|yes}}

|} 

===Generation IV===
{{lop/hm/header|9|4|{{diamond color light}}|{{diamond color}}|{{pearl color}}}}
{{lop/hm-4|054|Psyduck|no|no|yes|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|no|yes|yes|no|no}}
{{lop/hm-4|098|Krabby|yes|no|yes|yes|no|yes|yes|no|no|no|yes|no|no}}
{{lop/hm-4|108|Lickitung|yes|no|yes|yes|no|yes|yes|no|yes|no|yes|no|yes}}
{{lop/hm-4|130|Gyarados|no|no|yes|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|no|no|no|no|no}}
{{lop/hm-4|143|Snorlax|no|no|yes|yes|no|yes|yes|no|yes|no|no|no|yes}}
{{lop/hm-4|151|Mew|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{lop/hm-4|162|Furret|yes|no|yes|yes|no|yes|yes|no|no|no|yes|no|yes}}
{{lop/hm-4|227|Skarmory|yes|yes|no|no|yes|no|yes|no|no|yes|no|no|no}}
{{lop/hm-4|264|Linoone|yes|no|yes|yes|no|yes|yes|no|no|no|yes|no|yes}}
{{lop/hm-4|357|Tropius|yes|yes|no|yes|yes|no|yes|no|no|yes|no|no|yes}}
{{lop/hm-4|395|Empoleon|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|no|yes|no|yes}}
{{lop/hm-4|400|Bibarel|yes|no|yes|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes|no|yes|no|yes}}
{{lop/hm-4|493|Arceus|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes|no|no|yes}}
|} 

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Talk:Nickname

2010-08-30T11:19:25Z

Spenvdm: /* Available characters */ new section

Shouldn't this article be simplified? It says "If the Pokémon is traded or transferred to another game, its nickname cannot be changed unless it is traded back to its Original Trainer.", which could be shortened to something like "A Pokémon's nickname can only be changed by its OT." Additionally, shouldn't the name rater's location and purpose be discussed here? --[[User:ZellMurasame|ZellMurasame]] 22:49, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

:no, i think it should stay how it is. you know somone is going to wonder about trading. i know i always did, untill i did it one day and realized how it works that way. [[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TALK]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]] 23:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

::Yes but when you get a Pokemon in a trade, you're not the OT so it should be obvious that you can't change the name. Once you get your Pokemon back, you're still the OT regardless of who owned it inbetween the catching and present. I'm not sure how this is unclear. --[[User:ZellMurasame|ZellMurasame]] 00:04, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

::: well, idk about anyone else, but i felt the games didnt really explain that very well. sure, somone who has done it knows it, but somone who hasnt, would think 'once i trade it, its name will be stuck'. [[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TALK]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]] 00:26, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

::::I wonder if when a ten-digit nickname in an american Generation IV game is traded to a Japanese one, it stays ten-digit? [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] 17:20, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

==ALMOST!???==

It says that nicknamed Pokemon are almost never encountered in battles. They're never encountered in battles, period. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 16:15, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
:They are in Stadium. --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 17:06, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

== R/S/E Nickname Show ==

Is the TV show in R/S/E really aired after every Pokémon is nicknamed? In my experience, the show only airs if you change a Pokémon's name with the Name Rater. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 17:55, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, that is correct. I've fixed the page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:47, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

==Nicknames in Battle Videos==
Based on the small blurb about Tits the Staraptor, I did a test. It seems like the nicknames in Battle Videos are only reverted if you upload them to the GTS.

To test this, I gave three Pokes vulgar nicknames (e.g. tits, bitch) and recorded a Battle Tower battle. When I viewed the Battle Video, the nicknames stayed the same. However, when I uploaded the video to the GTS and watched it on the server, the nicknames were reverted. I'm not surprised, since it's similar to PBR's nickname reverting in Random Battles.

Anyone got any more info, or can I clarify this in the article? [[User:MagicBarrier|MagicBarrier]] 03:25, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

== Available characters ==

On the Japanese wiki they list which characters may be used in nicknames in the different generations. I thought maybe it would be interesting to do a comparison too, and possibly compare the character sets to that of other language versions. (like ü, ö, ß, etc in German and é, ç, à, etc in French version)

In 2nd generation (checked on Pokémon Gold):
:upper: ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ -?!/.,(A-Z, space, hyphen, question mark, exclamation mark, backslash, full stop, comma)
:lower: abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz ×():;[]PKMN (a-z, space, multiplication sign, round bracket open, round bracket close, colon, semicolon, square bracket open, square bracket close, poké sign, mon sign)

In 3rd generation (checked on Pokémon Ruby)
:upper: ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ ., (A-Z, space, full stop, comma)
:lower: abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz ., (a-z, space, full stop, comma)
:others: 0123456789 !?♂♀/-..“”‘’ (0-9, space, exclamation mark, question mark, male sign, female sign, backslash, hyphen, double full stop, double quotation mark open, double quotation mark close, single quotation mark open, single quotation mark close.)

I can't find my 1st generation game right now. These where checked on European English versions as sold in the Netherlands, to be exact. --[[User:Spenvdm|Spenvdm]] 11:19, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Trade

2010-08-26T00:47:23Z

Spenvdm: /* Quote by Satoshi Tajiri in Trivia */ new section

Hey, since the Pokémon egg page lists eggs that are given to you in game, would it be cool if I listed in-game trades? I'll try and get started [[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]] 09:54, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
:Go for it. List the nicknames, too, and gender if it doesn't change depending on that of the player's. Like Charap the Chatot, both my friend and I got it as a female, so I think it may be set. And the OT/ID number it has, as well, since that's most definitely set. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 17:09, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
:I support this fully. In fact, I wanted to do it at some point, but couldn't remember enough of the in-game trades to even start the list... ^^o --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 19:26, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
::Oh man, I like this idea. I can play through the Japanese Blue version to get the trades exclusive to that game as well if you'd like. ... I'll do it anyway :D [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 15:52, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Make sure that you take down their ID number and OT name. I think it'd be an internally stored piece of data, even in Gen I. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 17:24, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Nicknames and Original Trainers ==

Can they please be added for all the Pokémon received in trades? [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 19:59, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

== The Evolution Error ==

Which Gen I in-game trade made the famous "Your Pokémon went and evolved!" error? I'll add it to the article as trivia --[[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]] 12:08, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
:It's Raichu for Electrode. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|Contribs]][[Image:Ani164MS.gif]] 12:16, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Um, your edit seems to have buggered up and I don't know how to fix it...[[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]] 12:54, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

== Isn't it incomplete? ==

IMHO, the article is incomplete. There are many things to be added: info about the in-game requirements to trade (especially between generations), about the Mobile System in the Japanese Crystal version, info about the in-game trades, short info about OTs and IDs (and the links to corresponding articles) and so on. Since [[User:Porygon-Z|Porygon-Z]] does not agree, it should be discussed. --[[User:Pokeresp|Pokeresp]] 23:31, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

I 100% aggree with you. All that information is needed, especially the requirements to trade. I can't see any reason why this valuable information shouldn't be on the page.--[[User:Cjhard|Cjhard]] 08:40, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

you could also include that pokemon at certain levels wont obey you until you have a badge.--[[User:Darkcloud1111|Darkcloud1111]]

==Gen III trading==
I have a question that is not adressed in this article: If say FireRed or LeafGreen goes far enough to trade with Ruby\Sapphire\Emerald gets a new Generation III Pokémon (i.e. Mudkip) and recieves one, Can the Mudkip then be traded to a FireRed or LeafGreen that has not yet gotten the national dex? If not what kinda mechanism stops this from happening? -- [[User:D558|D558]] 18:02, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:It's a while since I tried this but IIRC the pokemon can be traded and will show up with question marks in place of the pokemon number. [[User:Plugwash|Plugwash]]

== International trading in GenIII ==

There isn't anything on it in this article... only the fact that GenI/II corrupts your game with international Pokémon and that global trading was added in IV. But there isn't anything for III. I know for a fact that Japanese games can trade with English ones (Only the first five letters in English names are read on the JP version- ie: "HORSEA" becomes "HORSE" while Japanese names are fully recognizable on the English game), but I'm not sure about other languages... I'd add it to the article myself but not knowing about other languages kinda held me back there. [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♪]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 02:27, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
:I'm wondering if after seeing this, I should've started the discussion in the Gen III article...
:The article says that Pokémon traded from different regions will not retain their names in the versions they were traded to. This is partially correct, being it so in the case of trading a Pokémon from a non-Japanese version to a Japanese version. However, the opposite isn't true and trading the Pokémon back again to its original version will retain its original name. For example, trading a Squirtle to a JP version from an US/UK version will make the JP version show its name as SQUIR. If you check the Squirtle, now owned by the Trainer of the JP version, on your US/UK version or even if you trade it back to your game, you'll see that its name is still SQUIRTLE. But I have to look this subject more thoroughly, to check what happens with the names when the Pokémon evolves and you trade it back to its OT or when it's checked by another game other than the two involved in the trade. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 21:14, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
::BTW, what happens when linking handheld and console games of different regions? Can someone try it out, please? I don't have any console games so can't say anything on the matter. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 21:37, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

== XD and Colosseum requirements ==
The Colosseum one I need to go back and check again but in XD Gale of Darkness you simply need to save Phenac Town to trade to the GBA, you don't have to beat Greevil. [[User:ShinyGlaceon|ShinyGlaceon]] 00:10, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
:Also at least for fire red and leaf green you have to meet certain requirements on the gameboy side to trade with colloseum and XD, i'm not sure if these are the same requirements as for trading with ruby/sapphire. I think ruby and sapphire can trade with colloseum and XD regardless of what stage they are at. I have no idea about emerald. [[User:Plugwash|Plugwash]] 20:35, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

== Just an idea... ==
I've got something i'd like to have tested out. Just say, for example, someone was trading an Infernape and a Weavile in the top floor of the Pokémon Center. Just a normal trade. And just say, once they left the room, the Weavile's trainer saved the game and turned it off, but the other person, the Infernape's trainer, turned it off WITHOUT saving. Would the Infernape appear on BOTH games, or would it just screw something up? Thanks!--[[User:Evilpichulady|Evilpichulady]] 20:07, 5 May 2010 (UTC)Evilpichulady

Good theory. The Infernape would appear in both games, however, it makes you save right after you leave the trade, so this would be impossible, otherwise you could do that with Caterpie and Mewtwo or something like that. ----[[User:Zewis29|Zewis29]] ([[User talk:Zewis29|Talk]], [[Special:Contributions/Zewis29|Contribs]]) 03:46, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

I thought it made you save right BEFORE the trade... meh. [[User:Evilpichulady|Evilpichulady]] 22:11, 2 August 2010 (UTC)Evilpichulady
:I believe it does both. It saves before you enter the union room, and then it saves to complete the trade. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:11, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

::Something similar happened to me one time when I was trading with my brother between Generation I or II games and one of the Game Boys' battery ran dead during the trading process. So it ''is'' possible, but this situation was ''very'' hard to recreate, and it was practically not doable from later generations on IIRC. This was on European English editions sold in the Netherlands, to be exact. --[[User:Spenvdm|Spenvdm]] 23:38, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

== Quote by Satoshi Tajiri in Trivia ==

The wiki says the following in the trivia (added in the revision as of 03:25, 5 September 2009):

"''Satoshi Tajiri stated that if the games could not communicate with each other, his vision for the Pokémon games would be incomplete.'' (「別のソフトとの間で通信を行わないとポケモン図鑑が完成しない」)"

Now it could be that he said that, but the Japanese quote says something quite different. I would literally translate it as something like: "''If you don't perform communication with another piece of software, the Pokédex will not be completed.''". So unless some reliable source can be found to support this trivia, I'm afraid it is void. --[[User:Spenvdm|Spenvdm]] 00:47, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Trade

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Scorched Slab

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|image=Scorched_Slab.png
|image_size=290
|type=cave
|location_name=Scorched Slab
|japanese_name=ひでりのいわと
|translated_name=Drought Slab
|location=East of [[Fortree City]]
|region=Hoenn
|generation={{gen|III}}
|map=Scorched_Slab_Map.gif
}}

'''Scorched Slab''' (Japanese: '''ひでりのいわと''' ''Drought Slab'') is a small cave found in [[Hoenn]]. It can be accessed by surfing in the north of {{rt|120|Hoenn}}, next to Fortree City, in a indented lake. There is nothing there other than a single item, {{TM|11|Sunny Day}}.

==Geography==
Scorched Slab is a tiny cave in the middle of an indented lake in {{rt|120|Hoenn}}. There is a small opening in the rock which lets the lake's water in the cave. About two thirds of the cave is filled with water, the other third is a dry slab of rock, giving it the name. The entrance is accessed by {{m|Surf|surfing}} across the lake and through the small opening. Surfing northward to a small piece of land, the main attraction, {{TM|11|Sunny Day}}, can be obtained here.

==Items==
{{Itlisth|cave}}
{{Itlistbod|TM Fire|Far end of the slab.|RSE|display={{TM|11|Sunny Day}}}}
{{Itlistfoot|cave}}

==Layout==
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! style="background:#{{rock color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topright: 5px;" | Inside
|- style="background:#000"
! style="background:#{{ruby color}}" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby}}
| rowspan="3" | [[File:Scorched_Slab.png|250px]]
| rowspan="3" | [[File:RSE Scorched Slab.png|130px]]
|-
! style="background:#{{sapphire color}}" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Sapphire}}
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==Trivia==
*Scorched Slab is modeled after one of the real-life locations that is claimed to be {{wp|Amano-Iwato}}, the cave where {{wp|Amaterasu}}, the sun goddess, shut herself up for a long time in {{wp|Japanese mythology}}. This explains why there is nothing to find in Scorched Slab but {{TM|11|Sunny Day}}.
*Scorched Slab is the smallest cave in [[Hoenn]].

==In other languages==
* '''Spanish:''' ''Gruta Solar''
* '''Italian:''' ''Grottino Solare''
* '''German:''' ''Sonnengrotte''

{{Hoenn}}
{{Project Locations notice}}
[[Category:Hoenn locations]]
[[Category:Ruby and Sapphire locations]]
[[Category:Emerald locations]]
[[Category:Caves]]

[[de:Sonnengrotte]]
[[fr:Grotte Zénith]]
[[ja:ひでりのいわと]]

Talk:Pokémon world in relation to the real world/Archive 1

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== 2005-2008 Talks ==
It's quite possible that Cinnibar is a part of the Sevii Islands, as Midway Island, for instance, is technically a part of the Hawaiian chain. [[User:Evkl|evkl]] 19:26, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Where did that information come from that Shino is based on Hokkaido? --[[User:Greengiant|Greengiant]] 02:35, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

:Because, you gotta look at the released Corocoro scans from this month ==[[User:Jason|Jade]] 2.56pm, 14 June 2006 (AEST)

::And what do you know about Japanese geography, eh? Could be Hokkaido - but the mountain chain makes me suspect Hokuriku - which is on the west side of the Japanese Alps. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 07:22, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

:::To anyone who wishes to edit this page so as to state that Hokkaido has been confirmed - learn Japanese beforehand and refrain from counting on unofficial web sites. CoroCoro only referred to Shin'ō as an island similar to Hoenn - that leaves Shikoku and Hokkaido. It is plain to see that the map, which has been largely revealed to us, takes the shape of Hokkaido. It is for this that some web sites such as Filb.de claim it to be based on Hokkaido as if it were confirmed.

:::Unlike Zhen Lin, I am absolutely confident in the veracity of Hokkaido. Even so, the correct wording is to be used at the very least until a full map has been obtained. Hoenn was confirmed to have been modeled after Kyūshū not long after Ruby and Sapphire had seen release. That said, Sevii Islands and Orre have thus far remained in the realm of speculation - but at least we have the resources provided by the games. --[[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]]

::::What about the orange islands and fiore? [[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 14:36, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I mean look at Sinnoh's shape...

Funny thing about orre...(get it?Orrezona((Arizona and Orre)).).

--[[User:Joshuamanimtim2|Snorlax]] 06:18, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Hm. I was flipping through my FireRed game the other day, and there's lots of Indian elephants mentioned in the Pokedex entries... is this worth mentioning? [[User:TinaTheKirlia|TinaTheKirlia]] 02:04, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
:Pikachu's power? Definately. --[[User:Kyoufu Kawa|Kyoufu Kawa]] 18:25, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

I was watching ''[[EP016|Pokémon Shipwreck]]'' and i noticed that brock tells about noah and the ark. Can we put that somewhere? --[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy512]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 22:50, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

:: What the heck does that have to do with geography? --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 21:58, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

:::It doesn't, it has to do with history of our world [[User:Count Caterpie|Count]] [[User talk:Count Caterpie|Caterpie]] [[Image:Ani010MS.gif]] 23:22, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Wrong again. It has to do with the mythology of our world, not history. You shouldn't too much into it, anyway, it was just a cop out. They didn't feel like making a whole new religion for the series, so they stole the most readily available one.--[[User:Goukazaru|Nostalgia]] 14:03, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

== About the real world locations mentioned section... ==

some of these things just have to go. The Fantina dialogue thing doesn't really have anything to do with it since that only happened immediately before the battle, not when you first encounter her at the contest hall or after you beat her. Besides, she could have just been using a fake accent. I mean, [[Blue (Game)|Blue]] was using a french accent when he fought you on the St. Anne, and the last time I checked, he never visited France or anything, never spoke in that accent prior to it, and immediately dropped the accent right after you beat him. Also, i doubt that an Indian elephant should count towards a real world location (maybe real world animal, but definitely not a real world location.)

anyways, thats all for now.

~~Weedle Mchairybug~~

Actually Fantina says something about moving to Hearthrome(spelling might be wrong) City before the battle.I am not sure but I think that backs up that she is from France

~~Starfire~~

Just because she said that she moved to hearthrome city doesn't necessarily mean that she was from France. I mean, if she explicitly stated that she was from France (or canada, even), then yes, that would have merit. But she never really said where she moved from. she only gave a vague mention of another country. I mean, for all we know, she could have just as easily come from the Orange or sevii Islands (I think of the Sevii Islands as an entirely seperate place than an actual region considering how it and Kanto seem to have somewhat of a feud before you arrived that wouldn't be of this scale if it was a region.], or Heck, even Orre (they seemed to imply through a news report in colosseum that it has entirely different regions due to the fact that they mentioned that several regions were attacked by [[Shadow_Pokemon|Abnormal Pokemon]], and since Kanto/Johto/Hoenn never even referenced being attacked by them, that seems to imply that it is an entirely different country in and of itself.).

I mean if you wish, go ahead, but I just want to say that I'm not too sure about that. I mean, if she was explicitly said to have come from france (like the Trainer dex in Pokemon FRLG said about Lt. Surge [I don't count the "Lightning American" thing as evidence that he is American since Some of the Gym Leaders were given similar nicknames even though they really don't have any corollation with each other (Tomboyish Mermaid, Elegant Princess, among others comes to mind [Misty's not a mermaid because she doesn't have a fish tail, she doesn't sit on rocks to comb her hair {her hair is very short, anyways}, and she never really stated that she was a Mermaid or related to them. As for Erika, she never really said that she was related to any royal family.].).].) then, yes, Go on ahead.

But since she never really stated that she was from France (her speaking french doesn't count since 1. she seemed to be faking it since the only time she ACTUALLY spoke french was when you meet up with her, which she drops when she is close to losing, and 2. Even IF she was actually able to speak french, that doesn't mean she is from France. remember, Canada, Jamacia as well as some african countrys speak French as part of their language.), we shouldn't say that she was from France.

~~Weedle_McHairybug~~

== Regarding the map... ==

The map is veerrryyy wrong! It should be like this: http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/1206/japanforonceandforeverdz3.png
Or maybe this is clearer: http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4092/japanys0.png
Please people, it's a common made mistake, but it isn't that hard to see, is it?

Zig

== Deoxys reference ==

The "North Pole" doesn't necessarily have to be a reference to a real-world location. Every planet has a north and south pole. [[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]] 20:02, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== Antarctica or North Pole? ==

I'm confused. I could have sworn that Deoxys landed in Antarctica, yet this article says it's the North Pole. Could someone clarify? [[User:JirachiWishmaker0802|Jirachi]][[User talk:JirachiWishmaker0802|Wishmaker0802]] 10:59, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

:It's possible different tellings of the franchise have different landing spots for Deoxys. For all we know, had [[Electric Tale of Pikachu]] reached Hoenn, Deoxys could have crashed in downtown {{wp|Honolulu, Hawaii}} in that telling. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:35, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

::You know, I think we should eliminate it from the references section, as the term "North pole" doesn't necessarily hint at Antartica. Besides, Antartica isn't even the North Pole, if anything, it's more the exact opposite term. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:21, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

==Could someone update the map?==

Almia should be included, as it's attached to Sinnoh. {{unsigned|LynnCreed}}

no almia's place should not be part of the main map because it is just a side game. almia should be in a "side game's map". Maybe that small part will be part of another generation game! do you have absolute proof from the developers of the game? i think not! plus if there is no mention of the national pokedex, then almia is in a different nation. since the main games are one nation, most likely the geography is influenced by japan, there are no separate nations inside what is similar to japanese land. you cannot be too sure until it is 100% proven. plus almia is just a small area of land similar to most things to the world right now. it can be part of the area of northern africa and mediterranean sea. also the games state that they are far away from the main pokemon games. {{unsigned|Pipcrew}}

== Game Systems ==

Would that be a reference to the real world because they are made in the real world? {{unsigned|Midnight Blue}}

== {{wp|Harlan County, Kentucky}} ==

In my sperpetic,Oreburgh reminds me around my home County, Harlan County , also the mines.[[User:LucarioWolf|The Aura Wolf !!!!]] 23:03, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
:Your what?--[[Flash Fire (ability)|freezing]][[Heat Wave (move)|COLD]] ([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 23:04, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
::Lots of places have mines. He means ''perspective''. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 23:06, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
:::There's pretty much no chance that a Japanese game is referring to your home county. There are many more notable mining areas, many in Pennsylvania, for example. I'm sure there's even more in Japan that are more likely. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|10% Satisfaction Guaranteed!]] 23:07, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
::::True, but then again, the Metal Gear series was a Japanese game (it was made in Japan, and was originally intended to be Japanese exclusive), and yet most of it's locations were anywhere BUT Japan (In fact, the only REAL Japanese references that was in the MG games was Master Miller, Akiba, "Kuwabara, Kuwabara", and the Tsuchinoko from "Snake Eater", which is pretty lacking anyways.). Heck, Sootopolis's geography was inspired by Santorini, Greece. For all we know, Harlan County could have served as a minor inspiration. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:26, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
:::As someone from Bullitt County, Kentucky, I'm going to have to say that such a claim is silly. We have had some form of confirmation on every other consistency. Until TPC comes out and says, "Yeah, it's totally our intention that Oreburgh be based on a county in the eastern part of a state in the US that we have almost assuredly never heard of," it's just very erroneous speculation. PS - Go MSU. --[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 04:38, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

== Map with Almia ==
I've made a map with Almia included. I think it's better to use this one
[[File:Pokemonworld.png]]
--Furanty 17:13, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

I think we should keep the almia part blank.It's not even part of the main series obviously. or we could make maps of the main series and the other series separate. spinoff regions does not always relate to the main regions. Almia might be a parallel to india for all we know! plus almia does not look like it is on that part of japan but more on the southern part of sinnoh. {{unsigned|Pipcrew}}

== Pepe Toño Macías ==

On latinamerican dub, James' voice actor always names a real world city (mostly latin-american, but some famous world cities are mentioned to) on Team Rocket's Motto, replacing the earlier "y extender nuestro reino hasta las estrellas" with "y extender nuestro reino a [real world city]". Most latin-american capital cities has been named as well as many other important cities like Córdoba (Argentinian seconds), Acapulco or Cancún (Mexican strongest tourist region), Punta del Este (famous uruguayan city), Viña del Mar (Chilean city who host one of the most sponsored music shows on the region), etc.

He is also the main reason to include many differents countries slangs to the whole Team Rocket, mostly mexican ones because of where the dub is translated. {{unsigned|Mephisto}}

== Other Articles? ==

Is there a reason all this information is listed only here, and not on the locations individual pages? Personally I think it is relevant Trivia that, for instance, Mt. Silver is based on Mt. Fuji. [[User:Darien Shields|Darien Shields]] 05:43, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:It's listed on some of them, mainly the regions. Sure it's interesting trivia, but we don't want the articles to be made of 100% trivia. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:21, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::True, but in some cases wouldn't you say it's relevant? For instance, Ecruteak City is based on Kyoto (not mentioned in Ecruteak's article at the moment), both cities are very old and have a lot of history. Kyoto is famous outside Japan- I'd hazard a guess at it being the second most well known Japanese city. Kyoto's history contributes to Ecruteak's role in the games. Wouldn't you say that's relevant? Violet City being based on Nara is, perhaps, less relevant, and wouldn't be very meaningful to most people using the wiki, so things like that perhaps could be skipped. But I definitely think that at least Mt. Silver/Fuji and Ecruteak/Kyoto are worth mentioning. I want to say something regarding Tokyo too, but the matter seems pretty complicated since there's no single Tokyo analogue.

::Also, just a passing thought, is it worth maybe mentioning the opposite- for places like Pacifidog town- that they are lacking in real world analogue? [[User:Darien Shields|Darien Shields]] 04:59, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

==Regarding Hoenn==

Actually, I've done some of my own research into the correlation between Hoenn and its real-life counterpart and would like to argue that Rustboro is a much better candidate to counterpart with Fukuoka than Rustboro. The region (according to wikipedia which is the source I used) is known for its industrial and steel works, which seems pretty analogous to Rustboro's Devon Corp.

Also, Lavaridge matches up to Ōita much better than Fallabour. Ōita is closer to Beppu, the hotspring region. It's possible that whoever said Lavaridge was Aso got the two Hoenn Cities mixed up, because looking at the map of Kyushu, they're the other way around.

Kagoshima could possibly be Lilycove, as it's a bay city with a small round island in the port, which could be analogous to Mt. Pyre.

I'm not sure who wrote up the Hoenn cities part of the article, but I'd definitely argue that they didn't look closely enough at a map of Kyushu or of Hoenn, as some of them match up to other cities much better than the ones listed. Sorry to seem like a jerk, but I've done a LOT of reading online about this and it's too bad the Bulba article isn't better. I'll edit the article eventually, I'd just like a reply here first.
[[User:AutumnRain|AutumnRain]] 18:12, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
:Sure, show us what you got. And I completely agree... Rustboro is a much better candidate than Rustboro ;) You may want to doublecheck that :D —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:18, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

==Table Overload==
This page is mostly composed of tables, tables, and ''more'' tables. We need some actual writing in here, as well as images, or else I feel this article doesn't deserve its status as a Featured Article. It's informative, but the way it's presented simply doesn't share that information in a productive way. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 15:15, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
:What else would you have us add? If that's all we have, it's kinda hard to add more. And it doesn't look good as a bunch of bullet points making up a whole page. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:39, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
::This is just an idea, but how about some free use pictures of the real-life landmarks, like {{wp|Kinkaku-ji}} (Brass Tower), {{wp|Ginkaku-ji}} (Tin tower), {{wp|Mount Fuji}} (Mt. Silver), etc.? It would be neat to see, especially if we had them side-by-side with game screenshots (or Midori Harada art? ...or anime screenshots, that would probably be better) of the Pokemon world locations. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 18:54, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
:::That would work, but we'd have to find all of the real world pictures that would look like the Harada art though. We wouldn't have to have a picture for every location though, so whatever Harada art we have we should try to find something for it. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 19:07, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
::::Well, as I edited in, we could also use anime screenshots instead of restricting ourselves to what few Harada location art there is. For example, we could do...
:::::[[File:Celadon-skyline.jpg|300px]] with {{wp|File:Tokyo_Shinjuku_City_20070317.jpg|this}}
::::...Though of course all city skylines look pretty much the same, so that wouldn't be an ideal example. Just pointing out that we could go with anime art too. :P [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 22:19, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::I would have real information explaining ''why'' these different regions and cities are counterparts to real-world areas. All of the sections simply say "x is based off x". ''Why'' are they based off those areas? Was it stated in an interview, or is there a mountain of evidence that cannot be swept aside as coincidence? Some reasoning would really help this article, and without it the whole page just seems to lack any real information, which is why I don't feel it should be Featured. I also agree with Umeko's suggestion for side-by-side comparison images, but we should definitely limit them to things that, without a doubt, can be visually-comparable. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 03:02, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::I do hope you saw the {{fan speculation}}
::::::at the top of the page. That is why there isn't that much evidence stated. A lot of the things were put up there, and people agreed on it. That's about how fan speculation pages work. But I do agree, we need something more. Unfortunately, that'll be hard to do, since most of it ''is'' speculation. A lot of it though, is where things are located in Japan and the anime, as seen on that map at the top of the page. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 05:09, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Of course I noticed. Despite that (or perhaps even ''because'' of it) more information is needed to support these claims. People like knowing ''why'' things are the way they are, not just that they are. Considering the mantle of "fan speculation" is already applied to this article, then we should feel free to add more of it without worry. Now, there should be standards. There should be no doubt that there are correlations between one thing and another, and no "logical" jumps or rationalizations. The towers have the same appearance, purpose, and general history as real-world counterparts... So that could easily be considered a fact and should be elaborated on a bit. Where Orre is, for example, should have options and reasons for and against each one. This article can definitely be improved, but how is something we need to figure out. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 05:32, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

==Comments==
Should the sections in the various tables marked for comments be for notes on the real-world counterparts, as is currently done, or should we only write comments if there's some similarity other than geography to note between the Pokémon world and real world? [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 13:40, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
:These comments do talk about similarities. Pallet is the player's hometown, Vermilion has a large harbor, Celadon and Saffron are big cities, Cinnabar has a volcano... The comments are for links between the Pokémon world and the real world. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 14:05, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
::Some of them aren't, like the comment for Dewford Town which only states that the real-world basis used to belong to Korea. (That one, at least, just sounds like Japan-Korea politics) [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 14:08, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

== Oblivia ==

Anyone got a clue where around real world Japan, Oblivia lies?
[[File:Oblivia artwork.png]]
Can't see any islands that look like it or anything O: All the islands are so small...{{unsigned|Saiph charon}}
:Might not be an area of Japan. Spin off game regions don't always relate to the other regions. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 19:00, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Milonda Island appears to be based off of Dogo Island.
Rainbow Island seems to be based off of a combination of Nishino and Nakano Islands.
Drop island appears to be based off of Chiburi Island.
They all are part of the Oki Islands. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Oki_Islands.png

Sopiana Island is without a doubt based off of Ulleungdo Island. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulleungdo

Thundercloud and Shikulele Island appear to be loosely based off of the Liancourt rocks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liancourt_Rocks

All the islands mentioned are found in the sea of Japan north of Chugoku.--[[User:flamin entei|flamin entei]] 19:37, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

== I dont think this is one of the best bulbapedia articles ==

Ive seen dozens more "Other applications of real-world locations" in the anime and that needs to be added.--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 05:06, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
:So, um, go for it? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:28, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
Yeah Im getting there lol.Going to take a while to remember and view all of them that I know of.
Im just very surprised Im the first one to put one in that has appeared in the tv anime series.
--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 05:30, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

== Regice ==

In pokemon Emerald, Regice's pokedex entry mentions Antartic ice. --[[User:Pkmn master|pkmn master]] 11:12, 14 Febuary 2010 (UTC)

== Map of Side Games ==

I know that the side games are more difficult to place, as far as true geographic regions go (if they even exist), but in the article itself, it mentions Orre as "[bearing] striking resemblance to the Gunma Prefecture of Japan in shape, which would place Orre north of Kanto and Johto." I think this is relevant to include on ''a'' map, although it doesn't have to be the one at the top of the page.--[[User:Lamb|Lamb]]''([[User talk:Lamb|talk]])'' 21:29, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

we should keep a map of the side games separate from the map with the main games. side games are not really canon with the main games. {{unsigned|Pipcrew}}
:The Pokemon Ranger series of games are canon, Colosseum games, as well, however, seeing how that game contained Manaphy, which needed to be downloaded into DP, and the fact that they have direct connectivity to the main games. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 02:05, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::Just because they're canon (which is, I believe, debatable) doesn't mean they all correspond to locations in Japan like the others. And if they don't relate to each other, making a map for them's gonna be pretty hard. On a side note, I think the Orre connections are quite a stretch, and there should at least be comparisons between Orre locations and Arizona alongside the comparisons to Japan. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 02:25, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

:::lets just separate the maps then. the region on where the side game's area is on might be filled in by a later generation's region, the side game's region might not be in japan because they look like most other areas in the real world and the side region is not part of the main games. even though you can get manaphy in pokemon ranger does not mean that that game is canon. it just means that you can get manaphy from that game. Question- how does almia fit next to sinnoh? almia looks nothing like the tail of hokkaido which is sinnoh's real world counterpart. Almia does not look like it is in the south part of sinnoh either. If sinnoh is the pokemon counterpart of hokkaido shouldn't the center of almia be filled with land? {{unsigned|Pipcrew}}

::::If they weren't canon, then there wouldn't be any connectivity, period. Absolutely no ties to the main games whatsoever is the very definition of not canon. That, as well as not even being made by the same people, period. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 12:34, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

:::::sorry to give you an example of another franchise but what about the naruto anime? all of it's filler arcs are noncanon and it has something to do with the characters. plus it is made by the same company who does the rest of the anime. {{unsigned|Pipcrew}}

==Orre Section Revamp==
I'm sorry, but the section on Orre DEFINITELY needs work. so far it has only three locations listed, and those are listed with the presupposition that Orre is in fact based on a region of Japan. I did some research into Arizona and the surrounding area and found some more noticeable parallels.

Phenac City is obviously based on Phoenix, Arizona, for the reasons listed in the article already.

Mt. Battle could be based on Humphreys Peak, the highest point in Arizona. While it's not a volcano like Mt. Battle, neither is the Gunma Prefecture of Japan a desert. That said, Humphreys Peak also lands in the right place relative to other locations.

Pyrite Town could be based on Yuma, Arizona, which formerly housed a large prison facility (which fits in with both the Pyrite Town jail and the high crime rate in that section of Orre).

Agate Village was hard to find, but I eventually settled on the little town of Oatman, Arizona. Oatman lies right along Route 66, and, as with many towns along that route, has seen better days. While it doesn't appear as fertile as Agate Village, I thought the history of this mountain town fit in with the fact that the population of Agate Village is mostly elderly, with the young moving to the cities instead.

In terms of locations from XD, I widened my search to include locations not specifically in Arizona. I placed Gateon Port at the well-known city of San Diego, California.

Citadark Isle seems to correspond with Isla Guadelupe, a volcanic island off the coast of Baja California.

I don't know how this should be incorporated into the article, but I do believe at least some of this information needs to go there. Any help would be greatly appreciated. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 15:12, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

:Yes, Gunma Prefecture isn't a desert, but then again, Floaroma Town isn't a flowerfield in real life, it is a desert. Anyways, I also don't recall Arizona being so barren that animals are even scarcer than water (which in Orre, apparently Pokémon actually are that scarce, at least in Colosseum.). I do doubt that it's near the Gunma Prefecture, but I also doubt that its supposed to be Arizona. Also, even going beyond Arizona, most of the locations don't match up. Citadark Island is on the opposite side of the real life location. Not to mention that San Diego isn't anywhere near that location. Maybe the old Colosseum map might have been based off of Arizona, but going by XD, it's not based off of Arizona or even the Southwestern United States/Mexican area, for that matter. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 22:51, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

::My bad about XD locations; I don't have the game, so it's hard to verify where they go (especially based on the few low quality Orre maps you can find). But nonetheless, the Orre section needs to change or be removed. The similarities listed are a real stretch (Outskirt Stand based on an archaeological site? I doubt it.), and besides, I thought Fiore's section was removed because it was a side game location. Should the same be done for Orre, perhaps with Phenac City moved to the section on non-Japanese influences? --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 15:03, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

:: there are no major deserts in japan (if you count the tottori sand dunes then yes but they are in the south of japan). if the fiore section is removed because it was a side game then we should remove orre. plus the state of arizona is not bordered by an ocean or something large like that water area near gateon port {{unsigned|Pipcrew}}

==New Image==
I like how it's been aligned so the regions look more like they do in the games, but technically Hoenn's box should be a lot bigger. That southwestern island chain includes such places as Naha (the inspiration for Ever Grande City), Yonaguni (the inspiration for the Sealed Chamber), and Yaebishi (the inspiration for Mirage Island). In other words, Game Freak curled that island chain around to compress the region into a smaller space, likely for gameplay reasons. Also, it would tickle me pink for the map to include the Sevii Islands, although that might be trickier. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 14:10, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

:sorry i couldn't find a good map like the one i had with yonaguni, yaebishi the kuril islands and sakhalin. the colors are for the third games in the generation they were first seen in (in Japan). for johto i made it into suicune's thing on it's head. the sevii islands are red for fire red. if you want me to change the colors or fix anything, please ask. {{unsigned|Pipcrew}}
::First of all, you should sign your comments with four tildes (~). But in regards to the map, it's wonderful! I'm not too enthralled with the color selection (a bit dull; I would have gone with green for Kanto, yellow for Johto, red for Hoenn, and purple for Sinnoh, as is used in the new HGSS Pokédex guide) but with the level of inclusion contained within this map I'm willing to let that pass. Great job! --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 15:13, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Bulbapedia uses distinct color templates, such as {{template|kanto color}}, for regional coloring. If an official guide uses other colors though... maybe we should look at changing them. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:28, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
::::ok i'll change them[[User:Pipcrew|Pipcrew]] 03:47, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::No, you won't. For one thing, the templates /should/ be protected. For another, changes of this nature need to go through the Editorial Board. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:42, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
but i created the original image. it says in the file history [[User:Pipcrew|Pipcrew]] 23:48, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
:And? Doesn't mean anything about the templates. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:11, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::then what should i do? should i delete the map? [[User:Pipcrew|Pipcrew]] 04:10, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

==Ecruteak Dance Theater==
A rocket grunt mentions hula dancing...reference to Hawaii possibly? He tells this to the Kimono Girl --User:xaigon_paladin 1:12, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah. Because it was made by the Hawaiians (technically settlers from Polynesia or something). Adding. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:41, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

== Isshu's Location ==

Isshu has been said to be far away from the other regions, and screenshots of Black and White show various landmarks similar to what are found in San Francisco (Such as the Golden Gate Bridge). I feel this should be mentioned. {{unsigned|Tveye}}
:I've heard New York and I've heard Hong Kong. Let's leave it at "some place really far away that might not be Japan" until the games are released and we can make more informed choices. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:43, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

== propaganda. ==
Tsushima was an island of Korea before 1945; the old name is ''Daemado''.

Tsushima doesn't belong to Korea before 1945. Bulbapedia becomes the place of dispatch of propaganda. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 08:49, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
:I think it can be chalked up to being an honest mistake. All you had to do was remove it, there was no need to come here and accuse us of spreading propaganda. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 09:02, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

I am terribly disappointed. It is to not only the guess but also malignant propaganda. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 09:05, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
:Calm down, dude. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:18, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
:We don't need any nationalist crap here. Correct the mistake yourself or politely point it out.—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:28, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

== Numbers Stations ==

Do you guys think that we should include in the Ruins of Alph location info that the "Mysterious Transmission" is based on the real world's "Numbers Stations"? These short wave radios are used by spies. http://www.archive.org/details/ird059 --[[User:Kambash|Kambash]] 20:17, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

== Pokémon world(Original Japanese version) in relation to the real world. ==

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ponyta_(Pok%C3%A9mon)
The change in Pokedex entry is interesting. The explanation of Tokyo Tower exists in a Japanese version. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 16:04, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

== some edits ==

As we are following Revised Hepburn as a standard for romanizations in listing the locations, "Oshima" (under Sevii Islands, Knot Island, prefecture) should be spelled "Ōshima", "Nakoudojima" (under Sevii Islands, Memorial Pillar, specific location) should be "Nakōdojima", and "Meiji no Mori Minoo" (under Johto, National Park, specific location) should be "Meiji no Mori Minō".

There is also "Chubu" (right under Johto) in stead of "Chūbu", "Honshu" (right under Hoenn) in stead of "Honshū", and "Hokkaido" (right under Sinnoh) in stead of "Hokkaidō", as well as a lot of other non-Hepburn romanizations in the comment section (Tokyo, Osaka, Kyoto, Oshima, Hokkaido, etc.) alongside the Hepburn ones (Kantō, Tōkaidō, Kyūshū, Hōryū-ji, etc.). I guess non-Hepburn is acceptable, as it is standard in everyday English use (mainly important cities like Tokyo, Osaka and Kyoto), but I think it would probably be better to choose either one.

'''Japanese Wikipedia pages to add:'''

Chichijima (Sevii Islands, Fortune Island): http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%88%B6%E5%B3%B6%E5%88%97%E5%B3%B6

Hahajima (Sevii Islands, Quest Island): http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%AF%8D%E5%B3%B6%E5%88%97%E5%B3%B6

Yaebishi (Hoenn, Mirage Island): http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%85%AB%E9%87%8D%E5%B9%B2%E7%80%AC

'''English Wikipedia pages to add:'''

Meiji no Mori Minō Quasi-National Park (Johto, National Park): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meiji_no_Mori_Min%C5%8D_Quasi-National_Park

Cape Nosappu (Sinnoh, Vista Lighthouse): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Nosappu

If you are still reading this, thank you for hearing me out. --[[User:Spenvdm|Spenvdm]] 12:10, 25 August 2010 (UTC)