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Generation II

2009-05-08T04:37:22Z

Spatula: /* Trivia */

'''Generation II''', also known as the '''metal generation''', is the second set of Pokémon games to be released, and is best described as a sequel to [[Generation I]]. Generation II is the most acclaimed generation among older and more experienced Pokémon trainers and fans. It consists of {{3v2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}} [[Version]]s on the [[Game Boy Color]] and [[Pokémon Stadium 2]] on the [[Nintendo 64]]. The games mostly take place in the [[Johto|Johto region]], but also include the [[Kanto|Kanto region]] and [[White City]]. In the handheld games, the main character starts in [[New Bark Town]] and moves onto Kanto once he or she defeated the [[Elite Four]]. The events of Generation II are contemporaneous with the events of [[Generation IV]], as proven by the opening events of {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}.

== Advances in gameplay ==
Pokémon Gold, Silver and Crystal brought with them many changes to the Pokémon world, as well as various advancements from the original games, most of which have now become a tradition. For example:

* Playing as [[Kris (game)|a girl]] (Crystal only).
* [[Gender]]s for Pokémon are introduced.
* [[Pokémon breeding|Breeding]]
* Built-in clock, which allows for [[time|real-time]] events.
* [[IVs]] get more involved as breeding became available.
* [[Alternate coloration|Alternate color]]s for Pokémon, known as shininess among fans.
* Trading capabilities with [[Generation I]] via [[Time Capsule]].
* [[:Category:Generation II Pokémon|100 new Pokémon]] bringing the total to 251.
* 86 new [[move]]s, bringing the total to 251.
* {{m|Gust}}, {{m|Sand Attack}}, {{m|Karate Chop}} and {{m|Bite}} all have changed types.
* Two more boxes in the [[Pokémon storage system]], allowing for 280 Pokémon to be stored.
* Some Pokémon introduced in Generation I get new evolutions or [[baby Pokémon|pre-evolutions]].
* Two new Pokémon [[Elemental types|types]]: {{t|Dark}}-type and {{t|Steel}}-type. {{p|Magnemite}} and {{p|Magneton}} are now {{t|Electric}}/{{t|Steel}}.
* [[Happiness]] becomes a quality of all Pokémon.
* Special [[stat]] split into Special Attack and Special Defense.
* [[Pokérus]] introduced.
* Pokémon can now [[Held item|hold items]].
* Opponent [[Pokémon Trainer]]s given individual names.
* [[Exp. All]] replaced with [[Exp. Share]].
* [[PokéGear]] added, which has a built-in cellphone used to call and rematch some trainers. PokéGear can be upgraded with a World Map and a Radio via installable cards.
* Item pack now split into separate sections.
* An item can be put on the <sc>select</sc> button for easy use.
* Pokémon have animations (Crystal only).

In addition, the Generation II games are said to be easier in comparison to the [[Generation I]] games, due to the different [[Pokémon Gym|Gym]] types.

== Starters ==
This time around, the Pokémon known as {{p|Chikorita}}, {{p|Cyndaquil}}, and {{p|Totodile}} are available to trainers at the beginning of the game. They too follow the Grass-Fire-Water (respectively) route of the previous generation. However, as opposed to the other three generations, where the {{type2|Fire}} would be the most difficult to start with, due to [[Kanto]], [[Hoenn]], and [[Sinnoh]]'s first [[Gym Leader]]s being of the {{type2|Rock}} specialty, the {{type2|Grass}} Chikorita is most difficult, followed by the {{type2|Water}} Totodile and leaving Cyndaquil as the easiest, as Johto's first Gym Leader specializes in {{type2|Flying}}s.

== Gym Leaders ==
The [[Johto]] region's [[Gym Leader]]s had different gyms, all of different types than [[Kanto]]'s, including one featuring one of the two new types introduced in these games. The leaders are:

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| style="background: #{{flying color}}" align="center" | {{t|Flying}}
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| style="background: #{{bug color}}" align="center" | [[Bugsy]]
| style="background: #{{bug color}}" align="center" | {{t|Bug}}
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! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 3
| style="background: #{{normal color}}" align="center" | [[Whitney]]
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| style="background: #{{ghost color}}" align="center" | [[Morty]]
| style="background: #{{ghost color}}" align="center" | {{t|Ghost}}
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! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 5
| style="background: #{{fighting color}}" align="center" | [[Chuck]]
| style="background: #{{fighting color}}" align="center" | {{t|Fighting}}
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! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 6
| style="background: #{{steel color}}" align="center" | [[Jasmine]]
| style="background: #{{steel color}}" align="center" | {{t|Steel}}
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! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 7
| style="background: #{{ice color}}" align="center" | [[Pryce]]
| style="background: #{{ice color}}" align="center" | {{t|Ice}}
|-
! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 8
| style="background: #{{dragon color}}" align="center" | [[Clair]]
| style="background: #{{dragon color}}" align="center" | {{t|Dragon}}
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==Notes==
Pokémon Crystal allows trainers to play as a female lead and has a slightly different storyline, as trainers focus on the Pokémon {{p|Suicune}}. Kanto became a different place than what trainers were accustomed to as changes were made, some of which are explained in the [[Kanto#In Generation II|Kanto]] article. This generation is not compatible with [[Generation III]] and later, due to a number of internal mechanics changes, as well as the general incompatibility between Game Boy Color and [[Game Boy Advance]] software.

The type chart is also changed slightly from Generation I, and these changes are carried into subsequent generations:
{| {{graytable}}
|- style="background:#CCCCFF"
! Attacking
! Defending
! Old
! New
|-
| Bug || Poison || 2× || ½×
|-
| Poison || Bug || 2× || 1×
|-
| Ice || Fire || 1× || ½×
|-
| Ghost || Psychic || 0× || 2×
|}

==Trivia==
*Despite the accepted "standard formula" for a [[generation]] to be two paired versions and later on a third version, Generation II is the only completed generation that has only this, as [[Generation I]] has four games in Japan, while [[Generation III]] and [[Generation IV]] have five games worldwide.
*Including console connectivity games, Generation II is the smallest generation yet.
*Generation II is the only Generation to have all of its starters (and their families) [[Chikorita (Pokémon)|pure-Grass]], [[Cyndaquil (Pokémon)|pure-Fire]], or [[Totodile (Pokémon)|pure-Water]] types.
*Generation II is so far the only generation where the total number of moves is equal to the total number of Pokémon in the National Pokédex at the time.
*Generation II is the only generation with no [[Fossil]] Pokémon introduced or even available.

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User:Spatula

2009-04-10T17:54:16Z

Spatula:

User:Spatula

2008-10-25T05:02:30Z

Spatula:

[[User:Spatula/Anime_Teams_Predictions|Anime Team Predictions]]

I took a lot of time on that! Now this...

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PokéROM

2008-10-16T03:19:29Z

Spatula: New page: A [[Poliwhirl Pokérom.]] The Pokérom was an educational cd-rom created in 2000 by The Learning Company. There are several...

[[Image:pokerom.jpg|right|thumb|A [[Poliwhirl]] Pokérom.]]

The Pokérom was an educational cd-rom created in 2000 by [[wp:The Learning Company|The Learning Company]]. There are several different types, such as [[Poliwhirl]] and [[Mewtwo]].

Talk:Bulbasaur (Pokémon)/Featured article candidate

2008-10-16T02:55:23Z

Spatula: /* Object (1) */

====Support (12)====
* It's like the mascot of Bulbapedia. I think it should be an FA. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 15:56, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
* It IS the mascot of Bulbapedia. Easily one of the best Pokémon pages. I've used it as an example for how other pages should be. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 16:18, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
*I support because it's the mascot well put and all the Pokémon pages use this--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 21:43, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
*I have some reservations about this, as most Pokémon pages are more or less the same, but this is certainly the best of them. If any Pokémon page deserves to be featured, it's this one. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 22:18, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
*If you see the talk, I wanted to nominate this myself, but didn't have the time. Bulbasaur is the example of what the Pokémon pages should look like, and is updated to new standards first. Glad to already see this much support for it! [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 02:15, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
*Easily one of the best Bulbapedia articles, and likely the best article about a Pokémon species. Exactly how an article should be written. [[User:Arceus548|Arceus548]] 17:57, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
*For all the reasons above. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 10:12, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
*it is the first pokemon of the national desk[[User:Dutch-pidgeot|Dutch-pidgeot]] 8:58, 6 september 2008 (UTC)
*The best Pokémon page ever made in Bulbapedia.--'''[[User:Diby|Di]]'''[[User talk:Diby|b]][[Special:Contributions/Diby|y]] 13:26, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
*Yup. How it's not an FA but Brock/Poké Ball are baffles me.--[[Blastoise (Pokémon)|K]][[Gary's Blastoise|kl]][[Blastoise (TCG)|l]][[User:Kkllnn|nn]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| blastoise]] 23:49, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
*Bulbasaur deserves it all for being our mascot.--[[User:Tavisource/Custom Sprite Project|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 23:52, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
*Bulbasaur should be a featured article cantidate it's the mascot of the website!--[[Mew (Pokémon)|M]][[User:MyUU|yU]][[User talk:MyUU|U]] 19:35, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:It's already a featured article ''candidate''. It's trying just to become a featured article.--[[Blastoise (Pokémon)|K]][[Gary's Blastoise|kl]][[Blastoise (TCG)|l]][[User:Kkllnn|nn]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| blastoise]] 19:38, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
====Object (1)====
*I'm sure I'll be alone on this...but I think the first Pokémon ever created should be the FA. [[User:Ash zane|Ash zane]] 12:04, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
:um...meaning????--'''[[User:Diby|Di]]'''[[User talk:Diby|b]][[Special:Contributions/Diby|y]] 13:07, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
::{{p|Mew}}!! [[User:Ash zane|Ash zane]] 13:22, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
:::And I thought it was {{p|Arceus}}!--'''[[User:Diby|Di]]'''[[User talk:Diby|b]][[Special:Contributions/Diby|y]] 13:24, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
::::You think a Generation IV Pokémon was created before a Generation I Pokémon? [[User:Ash zane|Ash zane]] 14:00, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::And if you want it so bad and it's good enough, just nominate it! Both of you! (But only if you actually think it is worth nominating) [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 01:49, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Mew is the first Pokémon that was created by the series' creator. I think that's what he means.[[User:Spatula|Spatula]] 02:55, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Hey, Ash zane, [[History of the Pokémon world]] says that {{p|Arceus}} came before {{p|Mew}}. Just FYI.--[[Blastoise (Pokémon)|K]][[Gary's Blastoise|kl]][[Blastoise (TCG)|l]][[User:Kkllnn|nn]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| blastoise]] 20:18, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

====Other comments====
Hmm, how come? If we add this to the featured articles, shouldn't we be adding other Pokémon pages to the nominations? Wala lang, I think it might get cluttery if that's the case. [[User:JirachiWishmaker0802|JirachiWishmaker0802]] 11:41, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

User:Spatula/Anime Teams Predictions

2008-10-05T05:08:12Z

Spatula:

'''I've been thinking to myself about what I'd want for this for a long time, and I've finally come to a conclusion. Sinnoh Teams galore!'''

{{Ash}}
''Sinnoh Team''
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| align=center | [[Image:025.png]] {{AP|Pikachu}}
| align=center | [[Image:396.png]]→[[Image:397.png]] → [[Image:398.png]] Starly → Staravia → [[Staraptor]]
| align=center | [[Image:387.png]] [[Turtwig]]
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| align=center | [[Image:390.png]] → [[Image:391.png]] → [[Image:392.png]] Chimchar → Monferno → [[Infernape]]
| align=center | [[Image:449.png]] [[Hippopotas]]
| align=center | [[Image:418.png]] [[Buizel]]
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''Transferred to Oak''
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I don't see Ash needing Gliscor for that long, honestly, though I can see it needing to go to Oak's for some reason or another. (Oak wants to run tests on it, maybe it has Pokérus or something.) So then, Ash and gang run into that Hippopotas again so he captures it, since they've already become good friends.

[[Brock]]

''Final Sinnoh Team''

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| align=center | [[Image:453.png]]→[[Image:454.png]] Croagunk → [[Toxicroak]]
| align=center | [[Image:Brock's Happiny Egg.png]]→[[Image:440.png]] Egg → [[Happiny]]
| align=center | [[Image:112.png]]→[[Image:464.png]] Rhydon → [[Rhyperior]]
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| align=center | [[Image:281.png]] → [[Image:475.png]] Kirlia → [[Gallade]]
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''Released''
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| align=center | [[Image:438.png]]→[[Image:185.png]] Bonsly → [[Sudowoodo]]
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No idea why, but Sudowoodo's evolution seemed thoroughly unnecessary. It's got to have something specific that it needs to be evolved for. I'm almost certain Brock will eventually release it. And when it comes to Rhyperior and Gallade, I don't mean both. I mean one or the other. Rhyperior, mainly because someone needs to own one, and because rock is Brock's specialty (Or is it anymore?), and Gallade because he definitely needs a chivilrous kind of pokémon. I mean, Croagunk's already a badass (I can see it evolving only so that it can master strength. Perhaps while battling Galactic's Toxicroak?), so Gallade would just be a great main battling pokémon. Dontcha think?

[[Dawn]]

''Final Sinnoh Team''

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| align=center | [[Image:393.png]] [[Piplup]]
| align=center | [[Image:190.png]]→[[Image:424.png]] Aipom → [[Ambipom]]
| align=center | [[Image:220.png]]→[[Image:221.png]]→[[Image:473.png]] Swinub→Piloswine→[[Mamoswine]]
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| align=center | [[Image:443.png]] → [[Image:444.png]] Gible →[[Gabite]]
| align=center | [[Image:427.png]] [[Buneary]]
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''Accidentally Traded''

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| align=center | [[Image:417.png]] [[Pachirisu]]
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We haven't had an accidental trade for a long time (Jessie's Wobbufett), and since Pachirisu is basically useless in both game and anime form, Dawn could get a Gible which would eventually become a Gabite. I'd love to see her owning such a powerful pokémon, mainly because it would be so fricking hilarious if it disobeys (Charizard kinda deal).

[[James]]

''Final Sinnoh Team''
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| align=center | [[Image:439.png]] [[Mime Jr.]]
| align=center | [[Image:455.png]] [[Carnivine]]
| align=center | [[Image:114.png]]→[[Image:465.png]] Tangela→[[Tangrowth]]
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Grass. Gen 1 to Gen IV evolution. James needs a new damn pokémon. Why not?

[[Jessie]]

''Final Sinnoh Team''

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| align=center | [[Image:336.png]] [[Seviper]]
| align=center | [[Image:193.png]]→[[Image:469.png]] Yanma→[[Yanmega]]
| align=center | [[Image:202.png]] [[Wobbuffet]]
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| align=center | [[Image:461.png]] [[Weavile]]
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Weavile seems almost perfect for Jessie. I don't know why, but I think it would be awesome. Sue me.

User:Spatula

2008-09-30T04:55:23Z

Spatula:

User:Spatula/Anime Teams Predictions

2008-09-30T04:53:07Z

Spatula: New page: '''I've been thinking to myself about what I'd want for this for a long time, and I've finally come to a conclusion. Sinnoh Teams galore!''' {{Ash}} ''Sinnoh Team'' {|border="1" style=...

User:Spatula

2008-09-28T05:48:12Z

Spatula:

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User:Spatula

2008-09-23T00:43:10Z

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User:Spatula

2008-09-20T20:55:36Z

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User:Spatula

2008-09-20T20:54:40Z

Spatula: /* Me */

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User:Spatula

2008-09-20T20:54:09Z

Spatula: /* Games */

==Pokémon==
{{User Favorite|453|Croagunk}}

==Games==
{{User Super Smash Bros. Brawl}}
{{User Blue}}
{{User Starter|004|Charmander}}
{{User Gold}}
{{User Starter|155|Cyndaquil}}
{{User Ruby}}
{{User Starter|258|Mudkip}}
{{User FireRed}}
{{User Starter|001|Bulbasaur}}
{{User Pearl}}
{{User Starter|387|Turtwig}}

==Me==
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User:Spatula

2008-09-20T20:47:05Z

Spatula: New page: ==Games== {{User Super Smash Bros. Brawl}} {{User Blue}} {{User Starter|004|Charmander}} {{User Gold}} {{User Starter|155|Cyndaquil}} {{User Ruby}} {{User Starter|258|Mudkip}} {{User FireR...

==Games==
{{User Super Smash Bros. Brawl}}
{{User Blue}}
{{User Starter|004|Charmander}}
{{User Gold}}
{{User Starter|155|Cyndaquil}}
{{User Ruby}}
{{User Starter|258|Mudkip}}
{{User FireRed}}
{{User Starter|001|Bulbasaur}}
{{User Pearl}}
{{User Starter|387|Turtwig}}

User talk:TTEchidna/New evolutions

2008-09-18T00:04:46Z

Spatula: /* Racclift */

== Girafarig evolution ==
Shouldn't the evolution take place during the night, seeig that it's a drk type? [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]][[Image:Ani202MS.gif|32px]] 10:35, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, but it's Psychic, too... and nothing evolves in the morning. Since Espeon comes from daytime evolution of Eevee, and Umbreon from nighttime evolution of Eevee, I figured something Psychic/Dark should evolve from a Normal/Psychic at the time between the two. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 10:43, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Just change from Psychic/Normal to Dark/Normal then.Like Onix change from Rock/Ground to Steel/Ground.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 02:50, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
:But it should be Dark/Psychic so as to have a Pokémon of that type. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 23:58, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

== Pretty good. ==

Those are pretty good choices so far. If you'd like you can list some of mine. [[User:Kenji-girl/Evolutions and Pre-evolutions]].

I even have a baby Absol so you might be able to complete the Absol line. --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 11:01, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

...I would've expected Jawile as the favorite but meh. :p (Now, if somehow you could put gummi bears in MooMoo Milk.. that'd own.) [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 23:27, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
:Jawile's Jawile. Linoone evolving wings because it ran so fast is awesome. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 06:55, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Would the female version of Machamp be weaker? Because if it isn't people will just try and get it, rather than trading. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]][[Image:Ani202MS.gif|32px]] 06:57, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
:Weaker how? I'd give her slightly lower Defense and higher Special Defense and maybe Speed. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:01, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I'd make Machick's stats a fair bit weaker, unless you make the Pink Weight really, really hard to find, then the stats should be just as strong, but make defence lower and Speed higher. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]][[Image:Ani202MS.gif|32px]] 07:10, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm. Maybe, maybe not. I dunno, honestly. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 08:14, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Where did you get the name 4 the baby absol? It seems kind of random. -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 19:15, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

==My Ideas==
Go [[User:billy4b2004/New Evolutions|here]] for more information!-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 07:51, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

==Eevee==
What about an eevee evolution that is just normal? Or maybe a Dragon one? --{{Ani|133}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Darth''']]{{Ani|196}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Cookie''']]{{Ani|197}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|'''Monster''']]{{Ani|471}} 14:21, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
:Possibly, I'll come up with those all later. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 22:04, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

== Dodododo? ==

That seems a little cumbersome. Maybe something like "Quadodo" or somithing like that. [[Image:Ani197MS.gif]][[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight Celtic]][[Image:Ani148MS.gif]] 12:57, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
:That is totally a better name. Thanks for the suggestion. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 22:36, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Could the trigger be level up with Quadruple Attack?:P -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 08:50, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

:It's a bad joke only.:P-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 03:47, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

== Myitten ==

Mewoth pre-evo? Course we need one! [[Image:491.png|45px 45px]][[User:Kpokefan|'''K''']][[User talk:Kpokefan|'''P''']][[User:Kpokefan/Missions|'''F''']][[Image:Cal.png|30px 30px]] 18:47, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

== New Type combinations ==

Why not you make some new Pokemon type combinations:

* Electric / Dragon
* Electric / Ice
* Fighting / Ghost
* Psychic / Fire
* Dark / Normal
* Psychic / Steel
* Dragon / Fire
:Those are better suited for completely new Pokémon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 05:07, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
::You know, there are already Psychic/Steel Pokémon. {{p|Beldum}}, {{p|Metang}}, {{p|Metagross}}, {{p|Bronzor}}, and {{p|Bronzong}}. --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 06:18, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
:::That too. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:09, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

==NICE==

Nice evos dude! I like it! I also have some ideas too, talk to me if you want to here them. the preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:MAXDude17|MAXDude17]]

== Deliguin ==

I got an Idea

Delibird >>> Trade holding Mystery Parcel >>> Deliguin!(Ice/Flying)

(P.S. Call me lazy if you must,I couldn't go to the Archives!)
[[User:Emp395|Emp395]] 22:43, 15 July 2008 (UTC)Emp395

== Name for Vespidron? ==

All drones are female bees. Basically what happens (in real life) is that the queen makes a lot of eggs, then only a few are fertilized. The fertilized ones grow to be queens and males. The unfertilized ones become nonreproductive females (drones) that sit around with only one X chromosome. And the sole purpose of the males is to... you know... with the queens. I'm not saying Vespidron is a bad name, just it's not parallel with real life. Though I think I have a (very unlikely) remedy that has three alternate evos:

*Vespiquen: female Combee with happiness/evo stone?
*Vespidron: female Combee at Lv. 20
*Vespi(something): male Combee at Lv. 20

Just a thought... --[[User:Clorox|Clorox]] ([[User talk:Clorox|diskussion]]) 06:08, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
:Oh, and I guess those should be at level 21. And it could be leveling up with Royal Jelly. --▄█ [[User:Clorox|<code>'Clorox</code>]] ▓▒ 19:49, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
::Vespiking? -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:56, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Possibly. But seeing as they aren't called Kings, they're just Males, there might be a better name. --▄█ [[User:Clorox|<code>'Clorox</code>]] ▓▒ 19:29, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

==Good==
good... except for the fact that tauros is a male only gender and males don't give milk... if it is to evolve with milk drink... just a suggestion. The other one's are great!
:The move is called "Milk Drink", not "Milk Produce". It's fine. :D --▄█ [[User:Clorox|<code>'Clorox</code>]] ▓▒ 19:55, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

==Racclift==
I like the idea of Racclift a lot, but my main problem is that it can't learn Fly. What's the point of evolving Linoone into a flying type if it can't fly?[[User:Spatula]] 00:04, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

User talk:TTEchidna/New evolutions

2008-09-18T00:04:32Z

Spatula: /* Racclift */

User talk:TTEchidna/New evolutions

2008-09-18T00:03:41Z

Spatula: /* Racclift */

User talk:TTEchidna/New evolutions

2008-09-18T00:03:22Z

Spatula: /* Racclift */

User talk:TTEchidna/New evolutions

2008-09-18T00:03:09Z

Spatula: /* Good */

Chimchar (Pokémon)

2008-09-01T18:07:14Z

Spatula: /* Super Smash Bros. Brawl */

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Torterra | next=Monferno }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Chimchar |
jname=ヒコザル |
tmname=Hikozaru |
image=Hikozaru Sugimori Platinum.png |size=130|
size=100px |
caption=Artwork from Platinum |
ndex=390 |
sdex=004 |
adex=168 |
typen=1 |
type1=Fire |
type2= |
species=Chimp |
height-ftin=1′08″ |
height-m=0.5 |
weight-lbs=13.7 |
weight-kg=6.2 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Blaze |
ability2= |
egggroupn=2 |
egggroup1=Ground |
egggroup2=Humanshape |
hatchsteps=5,120 |
effortyield=1 Spd |
expyield=65 |
lv100exp=1,059,860 |
gender=both |
female=12.5 |
male=87.5 |
color=Brown |
catchrate=45 |
body=06 |
pokefordex= |
generation=4 |
footnotes= }}
'''Chimchar''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ヒコザル''' ''Hikozaru'') is a {{type2|Fire}} Pokémon. Along with {{p|Turtwig}} and {{p|Piplup}}, it is one of the three [[starter Pokémon]] the player receives at the beginning of {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}.

Chimchar comes with the [[ability]] {{a|Blaze}}, which increases the power of Fire-type attacks by 50% once the Pokémon has less than one-third of its maximum HP.

Chimchar evolves into {{p|Monferno}} at Level 14, which then evolves into {{p|Infernape}} at Level 36.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
[[Image:Chimchar fireless.jpg|left|thumb|A sleeping Chimchar - note the lack of a flame.]]
Chimchar are based on chimpanzees. Being very agile, Chimchar are able to climb the rocky ledges of tall mountains, where they live. The flames on their rears are produced by burning gas in their stomachs. Chimchar also has a swirl-like symbol on the chest. The flames do not go out in the rain, and, unlike the tail flames of Charmander, those of Chimchar go out when they go to sleep. Despite being based on chimpanzees, Chimchar's [[cry]] is actually much more similar to that of a spider monkey.
====Gender differences====
====Special abilities====

===Behavior===
Much like their real world counterpart, Chimchar are very inquisitive and are prone to mischief, but can show bravery when push comes to shove.

===Habitat===
Chimchar are very rare and only make their nests in cliffsides and rocky mountains.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:Chimchar-anime.jpg|right|thumb|200px|[[Ash's Chimchar]].]]
Chimchar first appeared in ''[[DP001|Following a Maiden Voyage]]''. The little fire-monkey was teasing a {{TP|Dawn|Piplup}} after stealing food from it. Piplup then started firing a {{m|Bubble}} attack, but Chimchar kept jumping out of the way. {{p|Staraptor}} was hit in Piplup's line of fire and created a {{m|Gust}} that wrecked everything in [[Professor Rowan]]'s lab. Chimchar jumped out of a broken window with Piplup chasing after it.

When [[Paul]] first appeared, he commanded a {{TP|Paul|Chimchar}} in ''[[DP003|When Pokémon Worlds Collide]]''. Paul released it in ''[[DP051|Glory Blaze]]'', allowing {{Ash}} to catch it in ''[[DP052|Smells Like Team Spirit]]''.

[[Alice]] from ''[[The Rise of Darkrai]]'' owns a Chimchar. She uses it to power her hot air balloon.

Chimchar is also one of the two main members of the [[Poképals]] (Japanese: ポケダンズ ''Pokédans'') in the [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2 (anime)|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2 anime special]].
 

==In the manga==
===In [[Pokémon Special]]===
{{Special|Pearl}}, from [[Pokémon Special]] owned a Chimchar. When the trio was in [[Eterna City]] their three starters evolved at the same time.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Chimchar (TCG)}}

==Other appearances==
===Super Smash Bros. Brawl===
Chimchar has a trophy in [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]].

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=fire
|gen=4
|diamonddex=It agilely scales sheer cliffs to live atop craggy mountains. Its fire is put out when it sleeps.
|pearldex=Its fiery rear end is fueled by gas made in its belly. Even rain can't extinguish the fire.
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=fire |
gen=4 |
dprarity=One |
dparea=[[Starter Pokémon]] from [[Professor Rowan]]'s briefcase near [[Lake Verity]] |
}}

====In side games====

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! Game
! Location
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| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (Time and Darkness)]]
| [[Starter Pokémon]] [[Giant Volcano]] (1F-10F) [[Dark Crater]] (B1-B10)
|-
| [[Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia]]
| [[Nurue Field]]
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===Base stats===
{{BaseStats|
HP=44 |
Attack=58 |
Defense=44 |
SpAtk=58 |
SpDef=44 |
Speed=61 }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=fire|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 200 |
Rock= 200 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 200 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}

===Learnset===
{{learnset intro|Chimchar}}

====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
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{{mlentry4|Start|Scratch|Normal|Physical|40|100|35|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Leer|Normal|Status|—|100|30|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|7|Ember|Fire|Special|40|100|25|Beauty|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|9|Taunt|Dark|Status|—|100|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|15|Fury Swipes|Normal|Physical|18|80|15|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|17|Flame Wheel|Fire|Physical|60|100|25|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|23|Nasty Plot|Dark|Status|—|—|20|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|25|Torment|Dark|Status|—|100|15|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|31|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|33|Fire Spin|Fire|Special|15|70|15|Beauty|0||'''}}
{{mlentry4|39|Slack Off|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|41|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|95|100|15|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{movelist/note|4}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
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{{mlentry4|[[TM01]]|Focus Punch|Fighting|Physical|150|100|20|Tough|1||''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM08]]|Bulk Up|Fighting|Status|—|—|20|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM12]]|Taunt|Dark|Status|—|100|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM23]]|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|100|75|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM28]]|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM31]]|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|3||''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM35]]|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|95|100|15|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM38]]|Fire Blast|Fire|Special|120|85|5|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM40]]|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM41]]|Torment|Dark|Status|—|100|15|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM45]]|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM50]]|Overheat|Fire|Special|140|90|5|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM56]]|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10|Tough|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM61]]|Will-O-Wisp|Fire|Status|—|75|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM65]]|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM75]]|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM76]]|Stealth Rock|Rock|Status|—|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM78]]|Captivate|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM86]]|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM89]]|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM01]]|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM04]]|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM06]]|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|Tough|2||''}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM08]]|Rock Climb|Normal|Physical|90|85|20|Cool|0}}
{{movelist/note|4}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
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{{mlentry4|{{p|Abra}}, {{p|Kadabra}}, {{p|Alakazam}} {{p|Machop}}, {{p|Machoke}}, {{p|Machamp}} {{p|Drowzee}}, {{p|Hypno}} {{p|Hitmonchan}} {{p|Electabuzz}}, {{p|Electivire}} {{p|Magmar}}, {{p|Magmortar}} {{p|Ampharos}} {{p|Blaziken}} {{p|Meditite}}, {{p|Medicham}} {{p|Buneary}}, {{p|Lopunny}}|Fire Punch|Fire|Physical|75|100|15|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Rattata}}, {{p|Raticate}} {{p|Nidoran♂}}, {{p|Nidorino}}, {{p|Nidoking}} {{p|Mankey}}, {{p|Primeape}} {{p|Machop}}, {{P|Machoke}}, {{P|Machamp}} {{p|Hitmonlee}} {{p|Sentret}}, {{P|Furret}} {{p|Phanpy}}, {{p|Donphan}} {{p|Hitmontop}} {{p|Torchic}}, {{p|Combusken}}, {{p|Blaziken}} {{p|Vigoroth}}, {{p|Slaking}} {{p|Makuhita}}, {{p|Hariyama}} {{p|Numel}}, {{p|Camerupt}} {{p|Stunky}}, {{p|Skuntank}}|Focus Energy|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Vulpix}}, {{p|Ninetales}} {{p|Growlithe}}, {{p|Arcanine}} {{p|Numel}}, {{p|Camerupt}} {{p|Torkoal}}|Heat Wave|Fire|Special|100|90|10|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Nidoran♂}}, {{p|Nidorino}}, {{p|Nidoking}} {{p|Growlithe}}, {{p|Arcanine}} {{p|Hitmonlee}}, {{p|Hitmonchan}}, {{p|Hitmontop}} {{p|Eevee}} {{p|Sentret}}, {{p|Furret}} {{p|Zigzagoon}}, {{p|Linoone}} {{p|Makuhita}}, {{p|Hariyama}} {{p|Skitty}}, {{p|Delcatty}}|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Abra}}, {{p|Kadabra}}, {{p|Alakazam}} {{p|Machop}}, {{p|Machoke}}, {{p|Machamp}} {{p|Drowzee}}, {{p|Hypno}} {{p|Hitmonchan}} {{p|Electabuzz}}, {{p|Electivire}} {{p|Magmar}}, {{p|Magmortar}} {{p|Ampharos}} {{p|Meditite}}, {{p|Medicham}} {{p|Buneary}}, {{p|Lopunny}}|ThunderPunch|Electric|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{eggmoves/note|4}}

====By [[move tutor|tutoring]]====
None.

===Side game data===

{{Side game|
type=fire |
Ranger2=yes |
typeG2= Fire |
typeA2= Fire |
field2= None |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox/2|390|Chimchar|1|Fire||[[Level|Level 14]]|391|Monferno|2|Fire|Fighting|[[Level|Level 36]]|392|Infernape|2|Fire|Fighting}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=fire|
gen=4|
gender=none|
ndex=390|
name=Chimchar|
}}

==Trivia==
* Chimchar is the only [[starter Pokémon]] in the {{egg3|Humanshape}}.
* Chimchar is the only Pokémon to learn {{M|Facade}} by level up.
* Despite having no physical tail, it can learn {{m|Iron Tail}}.
===Origin===
Chimchar appears to be based on a young {{wp|monkey}}. The fiery tail mirrors {{p|Charmander}}, and the two Pokémon share the root ''char'' in their name. This is mirrored in their Japanese names, '''Hi'''kozaru (Chimchar) and '''Hi'''tokage (Charmander), sharing the element 火 ''hi'', meaning "fire".
====Name origin====
Hikozaru's name is derived from 火 ''hi'', or ''{{wp|fire}}'', 子 ''ko'', or ''{{wp|child}}'', and 猿 ''saru'', or ''{{wp|monkey}}''. ''Zaru'' is used to describe an {{wp|ape}}. Chimchar comes from [[wp:chimp|chimp]] and char. Its German name, Panflam, comes from {{tt|Schimpanse|chimpanzee}} and {{tt|Flamme|flame}}. Its French name, Ouisticram, comes from {{tt|ouistiti|marmoset}} and {{tt|cramé|burnt}}. Its Korean name comes from the words 불꽃(''Bulkkot'', meaning 'flame') and 원숭이 (''Wonsung'i'', meaning 'monkey').

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Panflam
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Ouisticram
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 불꽃숭이 ''Bulkkotsung'i''
*Chinese (Taiwan): 小火焰猴 ''Xiǎo Huǒ Yàn Hoú''

==Related articles==
* [[Ash's Chimchar]]

==External links==
* [[wp:Chimchar|Article on Wikipedia]]

{{Starter Pokémon‎}}

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Torterra | next=Monferno }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Pokémon that are part of a three-stage evolutionary line]]
[[Category:Starter Pokémon|390]]
[[Category:Mystery Dungeon Starters|390]]
[[Category:Anime starter Pokémon|Chimchar (default)]]
[[Category:Ranger Partner Pokémon]]

[[de:Panflam]]
[[fr:Ouisticram]]
[[ja:ヒコザル]]
[[pl:Chimchar]]
[[pt:Chimchar (pokémon)]]

Talk:Super Smash Bros. Brawl

2008-08-27T01:39:07Z

Spatula: /* Electrode's false Explosion */

== Previous discussions ==
* [[Talk:Super Smash Bros. Brawl/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Super Smash Bros. Brawl/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Super Smash Bros. Brawl/Archive 3|Archive 3]]

== Unlocking Lucario ==

Actually, in the Subspace Emissary, you need to use Meta Knight and defeat him to unlock Lucario. Simply meeting him won't do. [[User:ShinyRayquaza|ShinyRayquaza]] 19:04, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, of course. And there'll be other ways, too, but let's wait until Dojo explicitly states them to avoid speculation...--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 21:29, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
::You meet Lucario and immediately battle and then Lucario is unlocked. Nothing incorrect there. If you want the details, go to our articles on {{p|Lucario}} or [[The Subspace Emissary]]. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 15:04, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, another way to get him around is to play a certain number of VS. matches. But I wish the release date was a week closer instead... [[User:ShinyRayquaza|ShinyRayquaza]] 21:00, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
::::And also most likely another way, like Luigi and Ness  [[Image:Ani197MS.gif]][[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight Celtic]][[Image:Ani148MS.gif]] 02:04, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::The third method is to complete the 5 target tests with one character. And be glad you don't live in Europe. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 13:46, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

::::::I don't think you have to use Meta-Knight? I defeated Meta-Knight with Lucario and still unlocked him/her/it. (I always seem to do things backwards, huh...) [[Image:Ani197MS.gif]][[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight Celtic]][[Image:Ani148MS.gif]] 14:48, 10 March 2008 (UTC) 

== Hay look ==

Newest update on the site has Lucario on it. How to unlock is of course, the Subspace Emmisary, play 100 brawls, and beat Target Smash on all difficulty levels. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|δ]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{MS|281}} 02:02, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:And today we have the Spear Pillar image I was waiting for. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:53, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
== Pikachu's Final Smash ==
Um, Fabu-Vinny, you made a mistake. In your last edit, you made it say that Pikachu's Final Smash is Jigglypuff's. Since its protected, you'll have to fix it. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 17:27, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

== <center>Space and Time</center> ==

[[Image:SSBBSpearPillarDialga.png|left|thumb]]
[[Image:SSBBSpearPillarPalkia.png|right|thumb]]
<center>I uploaded these images. Now you do whatever you want with them. Images of Dialga and Palkia at the Spear Pillar from Super Smash Bros. Brawl. You can see the bluish and purplish hue in the background.

{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}}

20:59, 2 March 2008 (UTC)</center>
----

[[Image:SpearPillarUxie.png|left|thumb]]
[[Image:SpearPillarCresselia.png|right|thumb]]
<center>More images. Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf, and more legendaries may appear.

{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}}

21:17, 2 March 2008 (UTC)</center>
----
Last. Lucario

{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}}

21:21, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

:Well actually, I already uploaded the last one that you did. It's on [[Final Smash]]. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:23, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
::Okay well 5 images{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:23, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
:::GAHH!!! The other was also uploaded. Oy. Well at least 4 images{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:42, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

== Pictures ==

Can the in-game pictures you take be moved to a computer or the photo channel in any way?

And ont he topic of SSBB, if you change your brawl settings do they still count towards the number of brawls you need to be in to be able to unlock the next character?

Thanks, [[User:Uses Wikipedia Alot|Uses Wikipedia Alot]] 16:49, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:I don't know if the pictures can be moved to a computer, but changing the Brawl settings doesn't reset your number of brawls. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 20:29, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
::I'm guessing yes. as long as you've got an SD card, I'm assuming they are saved as JPEGs, so, um, yeah. I know you can move the stages on to your computer, but I'm not sure of the pics, or movies. [[Image:Ani197MS.gif]][[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight Celtic]][[Image:Ani148MS.gif]] 13:22, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I'd think it'd be the other way around, considering that you'd have more use for images and movies on a computer than a random stage that'll just sit there. But eh. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]{{MS|281}} 14:52, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

== Electrode's false Explosion ==

Out of like the 100 times I've obtained an Electrode, never once has it not exploded.

There have been times when it looks like it's not going to explode but then does it anyway. Did anyone actually get an Electrode that didn't explode? If not, I think we should change what this says. I know it's what the official website says but that doesn't mean it's true. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:19, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
:I've gotten one or two. It's really cool. If you pick it up and throw it after it fizzles out, sometimes it'll explode then, making it a more effective weapon than ever. But if you don't, it just sits there for a few seconds and vanishes like any other Pokémon. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 23:04, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Can you really pick up an Electrode when it's a dud?[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 20:12, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

You can always pick up an Electrode. Seconds before it explodes, it's determined a lot of matches for me. =D [[User:Spatula]] 01:38, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

== Jirachi Description ==

On the Jirachi description it says it drops "some stickers" while in my game it always drops 7 stickers. I've gotten Jirachi twice so it may have just been luck. It also could have been a reference to Jirachi Wish Maker because there are seven days that it is awake. Also Celebi has dropped 5 trophies every time I got it. I have gotten it 3 times. Mew always drops 1 CD. Can someone else confirm if this is in every game and then update the page.--[[User:23-03-33]]

Talk:Super Smash Bros. Brawl

2008-08-27T01:38:39Z

Spatula: /* Electrode's false Explosion */

== Previous discussions ==
* [[Talk:Super Smash Bros. Brawl/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Super Smash Bros. Brawl/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Super Smash Bros. Brawl/Archive 3|Archive 3]]

== Unlocking Lucario ==

Actually, in the Subspace Emissary, you need to use Meta Knight and defeat him to unlock Lucario. Simply meeting him won't do. [[User:ShinyRayquaza|ShinyRayquaza]] 19:04, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, of course. And there'll be other ways, too, but let's wait until Dojo explicitly states them to avoid speculation...--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 21:29, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
::You meet Lucario and immediately battle and then Lucario is unlocked. Nothing incorrect there. If you want the details, go to our articles on {{p|Lucario}} or [[The Subspace Emissary]]. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 15:04, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, another way to get him around is to play a certain number of VS. matches. But I wish the release date was a week closer instead... [[User:ShinyRayquaza|ShinyRayquaza]] 21:00, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
::::And also most likely another way, like Luigi and Ness  [[Image:Ani197MS.gif]][[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight Celtic]][[Image:Ani148MS.gif]] 02:04, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::The third method is to complete the 5 target tests with one character. And be glad you don't live in Europe. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 13:46, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

::::::I don't think you have to use Meta-Knight? I defeated Meta-Knight with Lucario and still unlocked him/her/it. (I always seem to do things backwards, huh...) [[Image:Ani197MS.gif]][[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight Celtic]][[Image:Ani148MS.gif]] 14:48, 10 March 2008 (UTC) 

== Hay look ==

Newest update on the site has Lucario on it. How to unlock is of course, the Subspace Emmisary, play 100 brawls, and beat Target Smash on all difficulty levels. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|δ]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{MS|281}} 02:02, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:And today we have the Spear Pillar image I was waiting for. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:53, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
== Pikachu's Final Smash ==
Um, Fabu-Vinny, you made a mistake. In your last edit, you made it say that Pikachu's Final Smash is Jigglypuff's. Since its protected, you'll have to fix it. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 17:27, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

== <center>Space and Time</center> ==

[[Image:SSBBSpearPillarDialga.png|left|thumb]]
[[Image:SSBBSpearPillarPalkia.png|right|thumb]]
<center>I uploaded these images. Now you do whatever you want with them. Images of Dialga and Palkia at the Spear Pillar from Super Smash Bros. Brawl. You can see the bluish and purplish hue in the background.

{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}}

20:59, 2 March 2008 (UTC)</center>
----

[[Image:SpearPillarUxie.png|left|thumb]]
[[Image:SpearPillarCresselia.png|right|thumb]]
<center>More images. Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf, and more legendaries may appear.

{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}}

21:17, 2 March 2008 (UTC)</center>
----
Last. Lucario

{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}}

21:21, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

:Well actually, I already uploaded the last one that you did. It's on [[Final Smash]]. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:23, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
::Okay well 5 images{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:23, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
:::GAHH!!! The other was also uploaded. Oy. Well at least 4 images{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:42, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

== Pictures ==

Can the in-game pictures you take be moved to a computer or the photo channel in any way?

And ont he topic of SSBB, if you change your brawl settings do they still count towards the number of brawls you need to be in to be able to unlock the next character?

Thanks, [[User:Uses Wikipedia Alot|Uses Wikipedia Alot]] 16:49, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:I don't know if the pictures can be moved to a computer, but changing the Brawl settings doesn't reset your number of brawls. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 20:29, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
::I'm guessing yes. as long as you've got an SD card, I'm assuming they are saved as JPEGs, so, um, yeah. I know you can move the stages on to your computer, but I'm not sure of the pics, or movies. [[Image:Ani197MS.gif]][[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight Celtic]][[Image:Ani148MS.gif]] 13:22, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I'd think it'd be the other way around, considering that you'd have more use for images and movies on a computer than a random stage that'll just sit there. But eh. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]{{MS|281}} 14:52, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

== Electrode's false Explosion ==

Out of like the 100 times I've obtained an Electrode, never once has it not exploded.

There have been times when it looks like it's not going to explode but then does it anyway. Did anyone actually get an Electrode that didn't explode? If not, I think we should change what this says. I know it's what the official website says but that doesn't mean it's true. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:19, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
:I've gotten one or two. It's really cool. If you pick it up and throw it after it fizzles out, sometimes it'll explode then, making it a more effective weapon than ever. But if you don't, it just sits there for a few seconds and vanishes like any other Pokémon. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 23:04, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Can you really pick up an Electrode when it's a dud?[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 20:12, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

You can always pick up an Electrode. Seconds before it explodes, it's determined a lot of matches for me. =D [[User:Spatula|<img src="http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h222/taproot_rulz/spatulads.jpg">]] 01:38, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

== Jirachi Description ==

On the Jirachi description it says it drops "some stickers" while in my game it always drops 7 stickers. I've gotten Jirachi twice so it may have just been luck. It also could have been a reference to Jirachi Wish Maker because there are seven days that it is awake. Also Celebi has dropped 5 trophies every time I got it. I have gotten it 3 times. Mew always drops 1 CD. Can someone else confirm if this is in every game and then update the page.--[[User:23-03-33]]

Rhyhorn (Pokémon)/Generation III learnset

2008-08-23T01:39:58Z

Spatula: New page: ====By leveling up==== {{movelist|ground|rock|3|1|Rhyhorn}} {{mlentry4|Start|Horn Attack|Normal|Physical|65|100|25|Cool|3}} {{mlentry4|Start|Tail Whip|Normal|Status|—|100|3...

====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|ground|rock|3|1|Rhyhorn}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Horn Attack|Normal|Physical|65|100|25|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Tail Whip|Normal|Status|—|100|30|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|10|Stomp|Normal|Physical|65|100|20|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|15|Fury Attack|Normal|Physical|15|85|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|24|Scary Face|Normal|Status|—|90|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|29|Rock Blast|Rock|Physical|25|80|10|Tough|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|38|Horn Drill|Normal|Physical|—|30|5|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|43|Take Down|Normal|Physical|90|85|20|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|52|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10|Tough|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|57|Megahorn|Bug|Physical|120|85|10|Cool|2}}
{{movelist/note|3}}

Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Archive 3

2008-08-19T03:09:36Z

Spatula: /* I've never talked on the discussion board before, but... */

==Previous discussions==
* [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Archive 2|Archive 2]]

== About external links and fan shrines... ==

I couldn't help but notice that within the Project Pokedex section, it is mentioned that Pokemon can receive not only wikipedia links but fan shrine links, too.

Now, before I jumped ahead of myself, I checked a few of the obviously more popular Pokemon, like Eevee or Pikachu. You can't go wrong with that. What I noticed is that the only fan stuffs listed is fanlistings, though. While that's something, it is what it is... a list. Granted, Poke-centric (that is, non human) shrines seem to be hard to come by in the 'States for some reason.

So, my question is, what would I have to do to get a fan shrine listed? Does there have to meet certain requirements? Is it necessary that it's a fanlisting? The site is in English, in case you're wondering. I know the ratio of Japanese artsy Poke-centric sites to US ones is extremely skewed in their favor, so I can see where that could be a concern, if a concern at all.
--[[User:Nidorino|Nidorino]] 16:56, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
:I would say in this matter, it's more quality that matters than notability. If you have a site that is good enough to be of interest to someone looking for some sort of information on the Pokémon - go ahead and add it. But if it's something that's low-quality and not useful, expect to see the link removed shortly after.
:Also, I would rule that foreign language sites can also be included - but with stricter inclusion standards, at the bottom of the external links list, and with its language included in parentheses so people don't click expecting an English site and get something in a different language. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 18:03, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

::Well, it's actually more interesting and for leisure than it is informational. I sorta made it both because I thought the Nidoran line was severely underappreciated and I got a little tired of the thousands of informational Pokemon sites but no fun multimedia ones. I suppose for what it's worth, it'll probably be really nice for any Pokemon fan since there's lots to see and do (for a Nido centric site, it's actually doing really well), I put a ''lot'' of work into it as well.

::The quality lies in the content, I go all out on what talents I have all for the sake of Nido Pokemon. There's also people who share the same idea, so a lot of contributions have come from people all over, it's probably ''one of'' the biggest Nido fan gatherings, which truthfully isn't a hard goal to aspire for considering the Pokemon in question. My main reasoning behind it, though, is that I just think that Nido fans shouldn't be left out of the picture, considering I know how hard it is to find anything interesting about them at all.

::So I guess what it comes down to is what one wants. It someone's trying to read hard facts, well, they could do that anywhere. But if someone's looking for something fun and different, that's the goal I want to accomplish.

::Would that still be okay?--[[User:Nidorino|Nidorino]] 18:17, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

== Biology ==

There's been a bit of controversy over the content in the biology section of {{p|Typhlosion}}'s article. It may be an idea to keep an eye over the stuff that goes in that section. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:13, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
:... how in the world did we miss that? D: --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 00:34, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Darn, i want to know what it says lol [[User:Broloth|Broloth]] 06:42, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

==Diamond and Pearl Pokéradar==
In relation to the Pokeradar in Daimond and Pearl. Should it be mentioned in the Rarity section like [[Nidoran♀ (Pokémon)]] or in the Location section like [[Venonat (Pokémon)]]. Just asking so that there can be some consistancy in the articles. [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 08:44, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
:Do we need to point out that the Pokéradar Pokémon are rare? If not, we have a free space to fit it in:
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{poison color}};"
! Game
! [[Rarity]]
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl]] || [[Pokéradar]] || [[Route 201]]
|}
:Otherwise, I prefer how Venonat looks. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 17:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
:They aren't always rare. And I've been adding in an availability template to Pokémon pages:

{{Availability|
type=ice |
gen=3 |
rsrarity=Few |
rsarea=[[Shoal Cave]] |
erarity=Few |
earea=[[Shoal Cave]] |
dprarity=Rare |
dparea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|216}} and {{rtn|217}}, [[Acuity Lakefront]] ([[Poké Radar]]) |
}}

That's what {{p|Snorunt}} has. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 01:07, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

::I'm missing how that template affects the current issue. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 21:50, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. So what about those in the Trophy Garden but need the pokéradar to be found. Should this be mentioned in the location section as well as that they are found in the Trophy Garden? The question was raised when looking at the [[Meowth]] page.

:Yes, it should mention on both pages. And the page is on {{p|Meowth}}, [[Meowth]] is a disambiguation page, so you'd better use the {{template|p}} template. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 18:22, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
::Ok but what about the PokéRadar in the Trophy Garden?[[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 10:03, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::What do you mean? '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 00:08, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
::::All of the pokemon that change daily in the Trophy Garden eg Happiny, Porygon and Mime Jr. require Pokeradar to find. Should this be mentioned in the template's location section? [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 06:34, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::Do they? If so, well, do like Snorunt. Put "[[Trophy Garden]] ([[Poké Radar]])" in the dparea thing. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:50, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::The Trophy Garden Pokémon '''don't''' need Poké Radar. You just need to walk around a lot. - - - '''[[User:Dra2k4|dra''2k4'']]''' 09:20, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

DONE THANKS GUYS [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 11:26, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

==Tiers==
Might it be a good idea to create a category for each tier of Pokémon, as of Diamond/Pearl? It would be a bit easier for people to find out what tier their Pokémon is by just scrolling down, as opposed to navigating to the [[list of tiers]] page.
:Well, I dunno, it's really more arbitrary than others. For example, I consider Gorebyss to be pretty good, but I've never used Skarmory. And let's not forget that the list of tiers is in need of cleanup; it seems pretty damn opinionated (and that's not because it says that Typhlosion is "not recommended for use outside of its tier"). After all, any Pokémon can be good if you can figure out how to make it that way. Heck, it's my opinion that the list of tiers is the same sort of "we'll tell you how to play Pokémon and not let you have fun" thing as that recommended movesets thing that was here a while back. Also, don't forget to sign comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 02:23, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
::Whoops, sorry about that. Fair point I guess, but it might be handy for competitive players in particular kinds of battle, Never-Used for example. [[User:Blink|Blink]] 15:20, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
:::True, but eh. We have many of their level-up movesets, and most of their learnable TMs and HMs listed, as well as their base stats. Itdoes take a bit of investigating, still, to see whether the move in question on their list is Physical or Special, though, but as for how to change this? Beats me...
:::I do think, however, that that would be a better thing to do. Let people make up their own strategies, we'd possibly get more variety in teams. After all, I know that I figured out that Typhlosion wasn't as good with variety on my own, since it can barely learn any Special moves that aren't Fire, but it took me a bit of searching. I'm gonna do some experimenting in my sandbox about how to indicate the Physical/Special/Status moves in my sandbox. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 01:01, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Are tiers just a fandom thing, or was there ever an official list published, even for RSE/FRLG etc?[[User:Blink|Blink]] 14:45, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
← 
Far as I know they're just a fandom thing. I've never seen an official Nintendo list that says, outright "CATERPIE SUCKS NEVER EVER EVER USE IT." even if '''''everyone''''' knows this to be true. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 19:25, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

So any pokemon can be useful eh? Weedle vs. T-Tar lol.
:Nintendo hasn't said not, therefore, yes, Weedle vs Tyranitar is fine. Frickin' go for it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 03:33, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

First off I want to say that not only does the Tier List need to be made more easily accessible, but a list of Items banned from competitive play would be nice too. I know Quick Claw and Focus Band is out of the question, but Im sure there are more that I don't know about.
Now onto the business at hand.Nintendo actually has hinted at the fact that their are "tiers" in the game. If we look at the Battle Tower in D/P (for example) most of the ubers aren't allowed. The reason Wobbuffett was put on the list was because if two Wobbuffett started off against each other in metagame, you'd have a 65 - 70 turn snoozefest on your hands. The reason Latios and Latias aren't on the in-game uber list, is because not everybody has Soul Dew. The game was designed with balance in mind. Pokemon like Weedle and Caterpie do have a tier called NFE (Not Fully Evolved) now granted some Pokemon are good if NFE (i.e. Trapinch and Pikachu) some Pokemon were designed to not compete with others. Sure you can fight Weedle versus Tyranitar, and sure no one is going to tell you "no you can't do that", but there will be people telling you that Weedle vs. Tyranitar is not too hot of an idea. Flareon is a perfect example of Nintendo designing a Pokemon to not compete with others, you don't think Nintendo didn't realize "we gave a very physical attack oriented Pokemon very few choices when it came to physical attacks" do you? Regigigas is another example, they made sure it didn't get Protect or Rest. And no, Nintendo will never release a list saying "these Pokemon are good, these Pokemon are ok, these Pokemon suck" no company would ever do that cause it would completely take away from the game; Blizzard for instance will never say "rogues are the best kekekek" because then everyone would be rolling rogue. Just like Nintendo will never say "teams without Garchomp in it are destined to fail"; and we must remember that the Tiers Lists are for competitive play, it is indeed very possible to defeat the Elite Four and the Champion using UU and NU Pokemon, but in WiFi games, no a Lopunny will not be able to legitimately beat a Physical Dragonite 1v1. Imagine how annoying it would be to fight an Elite Four member with all OU Pokemon using Hax Items that didn't follow standard battle rules. First battle Bug, Choice Scarf Parasect to Spore EVERYONE of your Pokemon, Choice Band Heracross rocking people who can't counter it, Agility sweeping Life Orb Scizor bending over everything that wasn't resistant to Steel Bug and Fighting, Shuckle, sitting there with its 614 max defenses with only 3 weaknesses, 2 not being too common, Yanmega scouting us for attacks and passing on its speed to someone really slow, and then Pinsir with a bone to pick with whatever was left. Then we'd have Pokemon like a max Cursed out Snorlax getting Quick Claw procs, or Garchomps with Bright Powder milking the fruits of Tyranitar's labor. That's all I'll say for now, and props to whoever is able to read all this. [[User:Broloth|Broloth]] 06:33, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

== Learnsets ==

Okay, I know we'll all agree that other sites that indicate the type and category of a move on the Pokémon's page are helpful for quick lookers. Sure, we shouldn't add power, accuracy, PP, and all that, but at the very least the type and category of the move.

[[User:TTEchidna/Sandbox/Bulbasaur|So this is what I've come up with for Bulbasaur]]. It still indicates STAB, if a person's too lazy to scroll up to see what types the Pokémon is, and for Gen IV, it indicates Physical/Special in addition to type so that a person can pick out moves depending on the stats of the Pokémon as well as its types.

Thoughts? I certainly think that this could make the Pokémon pages much better than they are. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:I think you could be on to something here. It even looks a bit better, aesthetically speaking, than the current table. [[User:Blink|Blink]] 19:24, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

:: Looks very nice. I feel sorry for you though, having to do that 492 more times. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 06:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah... unless I get some help... '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 06:32, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
::::That's very good. I like the layout better than the current one, since it seems easier to read and clearly shows whether a move is physical, special or status. -[[User:DarkMazer|DarkMazer]] 03:37, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Now the best question. Wanna help me add them to all the rest?

Also: I have a new, possibly more improved proposal. [[User:TTEchidna/Sandbox/Bulbasaur/Future|Check it out]]. This way, when we get Gen V, VI, VII, and so on... we won't have to move stuff around besides the current moveset. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 10:08, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
: I like your design. *nod* I would say leave it as separate tables on the same pages for Gen V but when we get to Gen VI change it to separate pages altogether. Though that would be a lot of work of converting all the pages. Perhaps we should start changing the pages once we hear Gen VI will be released? (If it does :P)'''[[User:Dra2k4|dra''2k4'']]''' 19:58, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
::Wouldn't really be much work, per se, if we already have all of the movesets organized into those tables-within-tables like Bulbasaur and some others have. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:45, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
:::So when can we get started on changing them? - - - '''[[User:Dra2k4|dra''2k4'']]''' 10:16, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

== Body shape ==

In GenIV, rather than by colour, Pokémon are able to be searched by a general body shape... Unfortunately, these categories are all symbols rather than names. This would make it hard to be included here, but I thought I'd put forth the idea anyway: Sort Pokémon by body shape, like we do with colour. The first thing, though, is that we'd have to come up with an agreeable standard on what each category should be named (since it doesn't do that for us). Just putting forth the idea for discussion, and whether or not the community thinks it would be useful. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 04:36, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
:We definately want to have some coverage on it but, as you say, it's going to be diffcult to implement. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:10, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::So, anyone got any ideas for this? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:05, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
:::How about we get the sprites from the game for it? As for the category.. um.. "Body Shape 1 Pokémon", etc? That's a suggestion I have. {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{Ani|380}} 03:06, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
::::But who'll say which is which? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:43, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

== Alternate Coloration ==

I've been having plans for starting a subsection to the biology section that describes a Pokémon's alternate coloring. But the thing is, TinatheKirlia told me that such a subsection would be unnecessary because the sprite templates on each article. But I (was with TTEchidna, apparently) believe that describing what a Pokémon's shiny version looks like would be better.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 20:10, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
:It seems no more redundant than describing the normal form in the first place... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 22:47, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::Eh, I really think that there are more important things than telling what color a Pokémon is when shiny, but most especially since the sprites do so, and easily demonstrate the differences among the generations (Bulbasaur itself is tan in Gen II, but green with a dark green bulb in III and IV). '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:18, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Sometimes the shiny colors (I think this is why) in GenII is because of the limitations of the GBC. Some simple colors, such as [[Red Gyarados]], stay but others such as Bulbasaur and Charizard get a little discolored, because of the limitations.
:::I dunno, but that's my guess. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 23:33, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

::::Sorry about that misunderstanding, TTE. I thought you were agreeing with me.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 23:23, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

== pronunciation ==

Just relizing that I had "THE OFFICIAL Pokémon Handbook" infront of me. I always hated not knowing how to say the names correctly and in this book it says how is it possible to add a section for the first genneration Pokémon. (That's the only handbook I currently have from my school library).--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 01:32, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I have all of the series of those offical handbooks.................(but what does that have to do with Project Pokédex?????) --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 01:35, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

well they have the pronunciation on every Pokémon shouldn't we put how to say the name of the Pokémon on their page?--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 01:39, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Most people know how to say it......but it's an idea........--[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 02:00, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I say this because I'm always fighting with my bro (who is 24) about how to say kyogre
He says it as if it was katakana and I disagree.--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 02:03, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

:It would be a useful addition to the infoboxes. The main question is if there is an official source for beyond the first generation. (Since some people insist that the dub pronounces things wrong for some reason.) I know we got Bonsly confirmed from PUSA but not of any source for the rest. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:21, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

well I have the handbooks of the second generation, and the third generation as well. --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 00:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:I usually pronounce Kyogre as Kai-oh-great (minus the t at the end). But the anime is Kai-oh-ge... '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]Hi''' 13:52, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I usually pronounce it Kai-oh-ger.
How do i participate in Project Pokédex.
Where exactly is the evolution box on the page.

Woot Glih-score Gly-score debates =D and i don't trust the anime 100% of the time, i still think it's swee - kune, not soo-wee-soon let's not for get that english dubs aren't always right (i.e. Krillin vs. Kuririn, or Tien vs. Tenshinhan.)

== R/S sprites ==

I know you guys aren't done uploading them, but are we gonna do the R/S sprites? Even though we have the Emerald ones... the R/S ones are half distracting. I dunno, just wondering.. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 19:06, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:All sprites means ''all'' of 'em. The only problem I see us running into is the shiny Emerald sprites. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 19:19, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

== Shadow ==

So um... where should we put info on the Shadow Pokémon? Probably under Game info, or Game locations.. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:That'd be a good idea, as a subsection of that. Like...

:Probaly under Game Info..... [[Image:Ani234MS.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|MERRY]] [[Image:Ani385MS.gif]] [[User talk:Theryguy512|CHRISTMAS]][[Image:Ani225MS.gif]] 23:55, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

===Shadow (name)===
In (Colo/XD) a [[Shadow Pokémon|Shadow]] (name) can be found in (location), trained by (trainer). Its moves are (moves) and, when purified, it learns (moves).

'''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 22:03, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:We already have this information. The location table notes which Pokémon are shadow and the moves are noted under the moveset heading. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:45, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

== Size and Weight ==

Hello, I'd like to discuss about the weight and size of Pokémon we display in the pokédex pages, I think they should be there, but they are not. (if they are and I don't see it, please notice me :-])
what do you think?
[[User:MewUser|MewUser]] 11:32, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
:That information is in the infobox of every article... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 12:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

== Joining ==

I, Darth Cookie Monster, is humbly asking to join this project[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 18:49, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
:You don't have to ask. Just add your name to the list of participants. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:41, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

== Held items ==

The items Pokémon sometimes hold in the wild. I'm not sure how to implement the information yet but we are currently missing it. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:54, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking about this - maybe add a section in the usebox with Held Item, and a percentage. [[User:Dlt4|Don]] 17:44, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

== Number redirecting ==

should the national dex numbers redirect to the pokemon's data page? I can do that if needed. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|折り紙ガイ]] - [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|離す]][[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|貢献]]''' 15:09, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

== Help! ==

How do I join Project Pokédex?[[User:Medicham225|Medicham225]] 18:49, 24 May 2008 (UTC)medicham225
:Simply add your name to the list of participants. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:07, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you.[[User:Medicham225|Medicham225]] 23:26, 24 May 2008 (UTC)Medicham225

== Generation 4 Smogon links ==

The links for generation 4 'mon are still not working correctly. Zhen Lin implied that it would be possible to make the link as a function of the name of the article. [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Zhen_Lin&diff=prev&oldid=270480#BulbaBot_request] --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 05:11, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

== About the sprites and trivia ==

Can we, you know, STOP FREAKING MENTIONING THEM THERE? They're all charted up, GO FIND THEM AND UPLOAD THEM instead of putting it in the trivia.

Also, next time anyone mentions something as obvious as "the Gen II backsprites and Gen III backsprites for Gen I and II Pokémon are similar" is going to be yelled at. You know why? BECAUSE THEY ALL ARE, just COLORIZED. Game Freak was lazy. Heck, they would've reused the Gen I ones if they weren't total crap. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:09, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

== Why (Pokémon) rather than (species)? ==

I mean, Ash's Butterfree is also a Pokémon. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 04:54, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

: Your point? --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|Fire]] 07:04, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

::Obviously that it's not correct and should be changed. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 03:36, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:::[[Species]] is something very different. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 03:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:::: Pokémon is the creature, Species is the Pokémon's Classification. Bulbasaur is a Pokémon and "Seed Pokémon" uis a type of species. --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|Fire]] 05:56, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

== Admission ==

Am I allowed to join? [[User:Mr.Lucario|Mr.Lucario]] 11:13, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:Everyone is. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 15:42, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Legendary Pokemon ==

I, BlazeFireKitty, spend a lot of time researching legendary Pokemon, and I'll add every single thing that I can get about them to their pages. The pages should really become very informative soon. I've noticed that a few are missing info under behavior and such, because the page is so focused on their game stats.

== Sprites ==

I have been uploading sprites to bulbagarden archives (normal and shiny sprites of first 110 pokemon from crystal), but I hardly seem to be making a dent. is there a list of missing sprites?--[[User:Cadellin|Cadellin]] 18:21, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:Not really, you just have to look at the seperate species pages. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:26, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
::As someone who has also been uploading a lot of sprites, here is the current situation as I have seen it:
*All the Gen I sprites are uploaded.
*All the GS front sprites are uploaded.
*We are missing a lot of Crystal sprites, though you seem to be handling that one.
*Generation III has the most gaps. We are missing most of the front sprites for RS and FRLG.
*We do have all the normal Emerald front sprites but not the shiny sprites.
*We have back sprites for Generation II and III but not shiny back sprites.
*As of last week, we have a complete collection of front and back DP sprites.
*We obviously don't have Platinum sprites yet.
::So the main areas to focus on are: Crystal front sprites, Gen II/III shiny back sprites and Generation III front sprites. There's still a long way to go but a lot has already been done. I'll look into getting Gen III into a better shape when I finish inserting the MD2 locations. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:01, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== I've never talked on the discussion board before, but... ==

I think that I can help a little bit with the movesets. I have a R/S strategy guide that has all the learnsets of the Hoenn Dex in order, and I went through the list of Gen III movesets that we've got already on here. I went through the 200 Pokémon in the guide and found the few that were missing (from the Hoenn Dex, at least.). Since I have almost zero experience doing this kind of thing, I don't want to mess anything up, so here's a short list (Again, just from the Hoenn Dex.):

Marill
Azumarill
Geodude
Graveler
Golem
Zubat
Golbat
Crobat
Tentacool
Tentacruel
Oddish
Gloom
Vileplume
Bellossom
Ninetales
Pichu
Raichu
Golduck
Rhyhorn
Rhydon

All of these Pokémon are, as I said, missing Gen III movesets. I don't know if you've covered this or not, but there you are. Sorry if I'm wasting any time. [[User:Spatula|Spatula]] 03:09, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Archive 3

2008-08-19T03:09:17Z

Spatula: /* I've never talked on the discussion board before, but... */

==Previous discussions==
* [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Archive 2|Archive 2]]

== About external links and fan shrines... ==

I couldn't help but notice that within the Project Pokedex section, it is mentioned that Pokemon can receive not only wikipedia links but fan shrine links, too.

Now, before I jumped ahead of myself, I checked a few of the obviously more popular Pokemon, like Eevee or Pikachu. You can't go wrong with that. What I noticed is that the only fan stuffs listed is fanlistings, though. While that's something, it is what it is... a list. Granted, Poke-centric (that is, non human) shrines seem to be hard to come by in the 'States for some reason.

So, my question is, what would I have to do to get a fan shrine listed? Does there have to meet certain requirements? Is it necessary that it's a fanlisting? The site is in English, in case you're wondering. I know the ratio of Japanese artsy Poke-centric sites to US ones is extremely skewed in their favor, so I can see where that could be a concern, if a concern at all.
--[[User:Nidorino|Nidorino]] 16:56, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
:I would say in this matter, it's more quality that matters than notability. If you have a site that is good enough to be of interest to someone looking for some sort of information on the Pokémon - go ahead and add it. But if it's something that's low-quality and not useful, expect to see the link removed shortly after.
:Also, I would rule that foreign language sites can also be included - but with stricter inclusion standards, at the bottom of the external links list, and with its language included in parentheses so people don't click expecting an English site and get something in a different language. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 18:03, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

::Well, it's actually more interesting and for leisure than it is informational. I sorta made it both because I thought the Nidoran line was severely underappreciated and I got a little tired of the thousands of informational Pokemon sites but no fun multimedia ones. I suppose for what it's worth, it'll probably be really nice for any Pokemon fan since there's lots to see and do (for a Nido centric site, it's actually doing really well), I put a ''lot'' of work into it as well.

::The quality lies in the content, I go all out on what talents I have all for the sake of Nido Pokemon. There's also people who share the same idea, so a lot of contributions have come from people all over, it's probably ''one of'' the biggest Nido fan gatherings, which truthfully isn't a hard goal to aspire for considering the Pokemon in question. My main reasoning behind it, though, is that I just think that Nido fans shouldn't be left out of the picture, considering I know how hard it is to find anything interesting about them at all.

::So I guess what it comes down to is what one wants. It someone's trying to read hard facts, well, they could do that anywhere. But if someone's looking for something fun and different, that's the goal I want to accomplish.

::Would that still be okay?--[[User:Nidorino|Nidorino]] 18:17, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

== Biology ==

There's been a bit of controversy over the content in the biology section of {{p|Typhlosion}}'s article. It may be an idea to keep an eye over the stuff that goes in that section. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:13, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
:... how in the world did we miss that? D: --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 00:34, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Darn, i want to know what it says lol [[User:Broloth|Broloth]] 06:42, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

==Diamond and Pearl Pokéradar==
In relation to the Pokeradar in Daimond and Pearl. Should it be mentioned in the Rarity section like [[Nidoran♀ (Pokémon)]] or in the Location section like [[Venonat (Pokémon)]]. Just asking so that there can be some consistancy in the articles. [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 08:44, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
:Do we need to point out that the Pokéradar Pokémon are rare? If not, we have a free space to fit it in:
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{poison color}};"
! Game
! [[Rarity]]
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl]] || [[Pokéradar]] || [[Route 201]]
|}
:Otherwise, I prefer how Venonat looks. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 17:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
:They aren't always rare. And I've been adding in an availability template to Pokémon pages:

{{Availability|
type=ice |
gen=3 |
rsrarity=Few |
rsarea=[[Shoal Cave]] |
erarity=Few |
earea=[[Shoal Cave]] |
dprarity=Rare |
dparea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|216}} and {{rtn|217}}, [[Acuity Lakefront]] ([[Poké Radar]]) |
}}

That's what {{p|Snorunt}} has. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 01:07, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

::I'm missing how that template affects the current issue. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 21:50, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. So what about those in the Trophy Garden but need the pokéradar to be found. Should this be mentioned in the location section as well as that they are found in the Trophy Garden? The question was raised when looking at the [[Meowth]] page.

:Yes, it should mention on both pages. And the page is on {{p|Meowth}}, [[Meowth]] is a disambiguation page, so you'd better use the {{template|p}} template. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 18:22, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
::Ok but what about the PokéRadar in the Trophy Garden?[[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 10:03, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::What do you mean? '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 00:08, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
::::All of the pokemon that change daily in the Trophy Garden eg Happiny, Porygon and Mime Jr. require Pokeradar to find. Should this be mentioned in the template's location section? [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 06:34, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::Do they? If so, well, do like Snorunt. Put "[[Trophy Garden]] ([[Poké Radar]])" in the dparea thing. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:50, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::The Trophy Garden Pokémon '''don't''' need Poké Radar. You just need to walk around a lot. - - - '''[[User:Dra2k4|dra''2k4'']]''' 09:20, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

DONE THANKS GUYS [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 11:26, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

==Tiers==
Might it be a good idea to create a category for each tier of Pokémon, as of Diamond/Pearl? It would be a bit easier for people to find out what tier their Pokémon is by just scrolling down, as opposed to navigating to the [[list of tiers]] page.
:Well, I dunno, it's really more arbitrary than others. For example, I consider Gorebyss to be pretty good, but I've never used Skarmory. And let's not forget that the list of tiers is in need of cleanup; it seems pretty damn opinionated (and that's not because it says that Typhlosion is "not recommended for use outside of its tier"). After all, any Pokémon can be good if you can figure out how to make it that way. Heck, it's my opinion that the list of tiers is the same sort of "we'll tell you how to play Pokémon and not let you have fun" thing as that recommended movesets thing that was here a while back. Also, don't forget to sign comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 02:23, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
::Whoops, sorry about that. Fair point I guess, but it might be handy for competitive players in particular kinds of battle, Never-Used for example. [[User:Blink|Blink]] 15:20, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
:::True, but eh. We have many of their level-up movesets, and most of their learnable TMs and HMs listed, as well as their base stats. Itdoes take a bit of investigating, still, to see whether the move in question on their list is Physical or Special, though, but as for how to change this? Beats me...
:::I do think, however, that that would be a better thing to do. Let people make up their own strategies, we'd possibly get more variety in teams. After all, I know that I figured out that Typhlosion wasn't as good with variety on my own, since it can barely learn any Special moves that aren't Fire, but it took me a bit of searching. I'm gonna do some experimenting in my sandbox about how to indicate the Physical/Special/Status moves in my sandbox. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 01:01, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Are tiers just a fandom thing, or was there ever an official list published, even for RSE/FRLG etc?[[User:Blink|Blink]] 14:45, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
← 
Far as I know they're just a fandom thing. I've never seen an official Nintendo list that says, outright "CATERPIE SUCKS NEVER EVER EVER USE IT." even if '''''everyone''''' knows this to be true. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 19:25, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

So any pokemon can be useful eh? Weedle vs. T-Tar lol.
:Nintendo hasn't said not, therefore, yes, Weedle vs Tyranitar is fine. Frickin' go for it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 03:33, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

First off I want to say that not only does the Tier List need to be made more easily accessible, but a list of Items banned from competitive play would be nice too. I know Quick Claw and Focus Band is out of the question, but Im sure there are more that I don't know about.
Now onto the business at hand.Nintendo actually has hinted at the fact that their are "tiers" in the game. If we look at the Battle Tower in D/P (for example) most of the ubers aren't allowed. The reason Wobbuffett was put on the list was because if two Wobbuffett started off against each other in metagame, you'd have a 65 - 70 turn snoozefest on your hands. The reason Latios and Latias aren't on the in-game uber list, is because not everybody has Soul Dew. The game was designed with balance in mind. Pokemon like Weedle and Caterpie do have a tier called NFE (Not Fully Evolved) now granted some Pokemon are good if NFE (i.e. Trapinch and Pikachu) some Pokemon were designed to not compete with others. Sure you can fight Weedle versus Tyranitar, and sure no one is going to tell you "no you can't do that", but there will be people telling you that Weedle vs. Tyranitar is not too hot of an idea. Flareon is a perfect example of Nintendo designing a Pokemon to not compete with others, you don't think Nintendo didn't realize "we gave a very physical attack oriented Pokemon very few choices when it came to physical attacks" do you? Regigigas is another example, they made sure it didn't get Protect or Rest. And no, Nintendo will never release a list saying "these Pokemon are good, these Pokemon are ok, these Pokemon suck" no company would ever do that cause it would completely take away from the game; Blizzard for instance will never say "rogues are the best kekekek" because then everyone would be rolling rogue. Just like Nintendo will never say "teams without Garchomp in it are destined to fail"; and we must remember that the Tiers Lists are for competitive play, it is indeed very possible to defeat the Elite Four and the Champion using UU and NU Pokemon, but in WiFi games, no a Lopunny will not be able to legitimately beat a Physical Dragonite 1v1. Imagine how annoying it would be to fight an Elite Four member with all OU Pokemon using Hax Items that didn't follow standard battle rules. First battle Bug, Choice Scarf Parasect to Spore EVERYONE of your Pokemon, Choice Band Heracross rocking people who can't counter it, Agility sweeping Life Orb Scizor bending over everything that wasn't resistant to Steel Bug and Fighting, Shuckle, sitting there with its 614 max defenses with only 3 weaknesses, 2 not being too common, Yanmega scouting us for attacks and passing on its speed to someone really slow, and then Pinsir with a bone to pick with whatever was left. Then we'd have Pokemon like a max Cursed out Snorlax getting Quick Claw procs, or Garchomps with Bright Powder milking the fruits of Tyranitar's labor. That's all I'll say for now, and props to whoever is able to read all this. [[User:Broloth|Broloth]] 06:33, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

== Learnsets ==

Okay, I know we'll all agree that other sites that indicate the type and category of a move on the Pokémon's page are helpful for quick lookers. Sure, we shouldn't add power, accuracy, PP, and all that, but at the very least the type and category of the move.

[[User:TTEchidna/Sandbox/Bulbasaur|So this is what I've come up with for Bulbasaur]]. It still indicates STAB, if a person's too lazy to scroll up to see what types the Pokémon is, and for Gen IV, it indicates Physical/Special in addition to type so that a person can pick out moves depending on the stats of the Pokémon as well as its types.

Thoughts? I certainly think that this could make the Pokémon pages much better than they are. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:I think you could be on to something here. It even looks a bit better, aesthetically speaking, than the current table. [[User:Blink|Blink]] 19:24, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

:: Looks very nice. I feel sorry for you though, having to do that 492 more times. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 06:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah... unless I get some help... '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 06:32, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
::::That's very good. I like the layout better than the current one, since it seems easier to read and clearly shows whether a move is physical, special or status. -[[User:DarkMazer|DarkMazer]] 03:37, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Now the best question. Wanna help me add them to all the rest?

Also: I have a new, possibly more improved proposal. [[User:TTEchidna/Sandbox/Bulbasaur/Future|Check it out]]. This way, when we get Gen V, VI, VII, and so on... we won't have to move stuff around besides the current moveset. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 10:08, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
: I like your design. *nod* I would say leave it as separate tables on the same pages for Gen V but when we get to Gen VI change it to separate pages altogether. Though that would be a lot of work of converting all the pages. Perhaps we should start changing the pages once we hear Gen VI will be released? (If it does :P)'''[[User:Dra2k4|dra''2k4'']]''' 19:58, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
::Wouldn't really be much work, per se, if we already have all of the movesets organized into those tables-within-tables like Bulbasaur and some others have. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:45, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
:::So when can we get started on changing them? - - - '''[[User:Dra2k4|dra''2k4'']]''' 10:16, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

== Body shape ==

In GenIV, rather than by colour, Pokémon are able to be searched by a general body shape... Unfortunately, these categories are all symbols rather than names. This would make it hard to be included here, but I thought I'd put forth the idea anyway: Sort Pokémon by body shape, like we do with colour. The first thing, though, is that we'd have to come up with an agreeable standard on what each category should be named (since it doesn't do that for us). Just putting forth the idea for discussion, and whether or not the community thinks it would be useful. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 04:36, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
:We definately want to have some coverage on it but, as you say, it's going to be diffcult to implement. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:10, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::So, anyone got any ideas for this? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:05, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
:::How about we get the sprites from the game for it? As for the category.. um.. "Body Shape 1 Pokémon", etc? That's a suggestion I have. {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{Ani|380}} 03:06, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
::::But who'll say which is which? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:43, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

== Alternate Coloration ==

I've been having plans for starting a subsection to the biology section that describes a Pokémon's alternate coloring. But the thing is, TinatheKirlia told me that such a subsection would be unnecessary because the sprite templates on each article. But I (was with TTEchidna, apparently) believe that describing what a Pokémon's shiny version looks like would be better.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 20:10, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
:It seems no more redundant than describing the normal form in the first place... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 22:47, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::Eh, I really think that there are more important things than telling what color a Pokémon is when shiny, but most especially since the sprites do so, and easily demonstrate the differences among the generations (Bulbasaur itself is tan in Gen II, but green with a dark green bulb in III and IV). '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:18, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Sometimes the shiny colors (I think this is why) in GenII is because of the limitations of the GBC. Some simple colors, such as [[Red Gyarados]], stay but others such as Bulbasaur and Charizard get a little discolored, because of the limitations.
:::I dunno, but that's my guess. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 23:33, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

::::Sorry about that misunderstanding, TTE. I thought you were agreeing with me.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 23:23, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

== pronunciation ==

Just relizing that I had "THE OFFICIAL Pokémon Handbook" infront of me. I always hated not knowing how to say the names correctly and in this book it says how is it possible to add a section for the first genneration Pokémon. (That's the only handbook I currently have from my school library).--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 01:32, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I have all of the series of those offical handbooks.................(but what does that have to do with Project Pokédex?????) --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 01:35, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

well they have the pronunciation on every Pokémon shouldn't we put how to say the name of the Pokémon on their page?--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 01:39, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Most people know how to say it......but it's an idea........--[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 02:00, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I say this because I'm always fighting with my bro (who is 24) about how to say kyogre
He says it as if it was katakana and I disagree.--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 02:03, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

:It would be a useful addition to the infoboxes. The main question is if there is an official source for beyond the first generation. (Since some people insist that the dub pronounces things wrong for some reason.) I know we got Bonsly confirmed from PUSA but not of any source for the rest. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:21, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

well I have the handbooks of the second generation, and the third generation as well. --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 00:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:I usually pronounce Kyogre as Kai-oh-great (minus the t at the end). But the anime is Kai-oh-ge... '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]Hi''' 13:52, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I usually pronounce it Kai-oh-ger.
How do i participate in Project Pokédex.
Where exactly is the evolution box on the page.

Woot Glih-score Gly-score debates =D and i don't trust the anime 100% of the time, i still think it's swee - kune, not soo-wee-soon let's not for get that english dubs aren't always right (i.e. Krillin vs. Kuririn, or Tien vs. Tenshinhan.)

== R/S sprites ==

I know you guys aren't done uploading them, but are we gonna do the R/S sprites? Even though we have the Emerald ones... the R/S ones are half distracting. I dunno, just wondering.. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 19:06, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:All sprites means ''all'' of 'em. The only problem I see us running into is the shiny Emerald sprites. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 19:19, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

== Shadow ==

So um... where should we put info on the Shadow Pokémon? Probably under Game info, or Game locations.. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:That'd be a good idea, as a subsection of that. Like...

:Probaly under Game Info..... [[Image:Ani234MS.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|MERRY]] [[Image:Ani385MS.gif]] [[User talk:Theryguy512|CHRISTMAS]][[Image:Ani225MS.gif]] 23:55, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

===Shadow (name)===
In (Colo/XD) a [[Shadow Pokémon|Shadow]] (name) can be found in (location), trained by (trainer). Its moves are (moves) and, when purified, it learns (moves).

'''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 22:03, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:We already have this information. The location table notes which Pokémon are shadow and the moves are noted under the moveset heading. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:45, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

== Size and Weight ==

Hello, I'd like to discuss about the weight and size of Pokémon we display in the pokédex pages, I think they should be there, but they are not. (if they are and I don't see it, please notice me :-])
what do you think?
[[User:MewUser|MewUser]] 11:32, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
:That information is in the infobox of every article... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 12:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

== Joining ==

I, Darth Cookie Monster, is humbly asking to join this project[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 18:49, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
:You don't have to ask. Just add your name to the list of participants. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:41, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

== Held items ==

The items Pokémon sometimes hold in the wild. I'm not sure how to implement the information yet but we are currently missing it. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:54, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking about this - maybe add a section in the usebox with Held Item, and a percentage. [[User:Dlt4|Don]] 17:44, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

== Number redirecting ==

should the national dex numbers redirect to the pokemon's data page? I can do that if needed. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|折り紙ガイ]] - [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|離す]][[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|貢献]]''' 15:09, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

== Help! ==

How do I join Project Pokédex?[[User:Medicham225|Medicham225]] 18:49, 24 May 2008 (UTC)medicham225
:Simply add your name to the list of participants. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:07, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you.[[User:Medicham225|Medicham225]] 23:26, 24 May 2008 (UTC)Medicham225

== Generation 4 Smogon links ==

The links for generation 4 'mon are still not working correctly. Zhen Lin implied that it would be possible to make the link as a function of the name of the article. [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Zhen_Lin&diff=prev&oldid=270480#BulbaBot_request] --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 05:11, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

== About the sprites and trivia ==

Can we, you know, STOP FREAKING MENTIONING THEM THERE? They're all charted up, GO FIND THEM AND UPLOAD THEM instead of putting it in the trivia.

Also, next time anyone mentions something as obvious as "the Gen II backsprites and Gen III backsprites for Gen I and II Pokémon are similar" is going to be yelled at. You know why? BECAUSE THEY ALL ARE, just COLORIZED. Game Freak was lazy. Heck, they would've reused the Gen I ones if they weren't total crap. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:09, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

== Why (Pokémon) rather than (species)? ==

I mean, Ash's Butterfree is also a Pokémon. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 04:54, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

: Your point? --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|Fire]] 07:04, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

::Obviously that it's not correct and should be changed. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 03:36, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:::[[Species]] is something very different. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 03:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:::: Pokémon is the creature, Species is the Pokémon's Classification. Bulbasaur is a Pokémon and "Seed Pokémon" uis a type of species. --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|Fire]] 05:56, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

== Admission ==

Am I allowed to join? [[User:Mr.Lucario|Mr.Lucario]] 11:13, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:Everyone is. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 15:42, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Legendary Pokemon ==

I, BlazeFireKitty, spend a lot of time researching legendary Pokemon, and I'll add every single thing that I can get about them to their pages. The pages should really become very informative soon. I've noticed that a few are missing info under behavior and such, because the page is so focused on their game stats.

== Sprites ==

I have been uploading sprites to bulbagarden archives (normal and shiny sprites of first 110 pokemon from crystal), but I hardly seem to be making a dent. is there a list of missing sprites?--[[User:Cadellin|Cadellin]] 18:21, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:Not really, you just have to look at the seperate species pages. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:26, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
::As someone who has also been uploading a lot of sprites, here is the current situation as I have seen it:
*All the Gen I sprites are uploaded.
*All the GS front sprites are uploaded.
*We are missing a lot of Crystal sprites, though you seem to be handling that one.
*Generation III has the most gaps. We are missing most of the front sprites for RS and FRLG.
*We do have all the normal Emerald front sprites but not the shiny sprites.
*We have back sprites for Generation II and III but not shiny back sprites.
*As of last week, we have a complete collection of front and back DP sprites.
*We obviously don't have Platinum sprites yet.
::So the main areas to focus on are: Crystal front sprites, Gen II/III shiny back sprites and Generation III front sprites. There's still a long way to go but a lot has already been done. I'll look into getting Gen III into a better shape when I finish inserting the MD2 locations. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:01, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== I've never talked on the discussion board before, but... ==

I think that I can help a little bit with the movesets. I have a R/S strategy guide that has all the learnsets of the Hoenn Dex in order, and I went through the list of Gen III movesets that we've got already on here. I went through the 200 Pokémon in the guide and found the few that were missing (from the Hoenn Dex, at least.). Since I have almost zero experience doing this kind of thing, I don't want to mess anything up, so here's a short list (Again, just from the Hoenn Dex.):

Marill
Azumarill
Geodude
Graveler
Golem
Zubat
Golbat
Crobat
Tentacool
Tentacruel
Oddish
Gloom
Vileplume
Bellossom
Ninetales
Pichu
Raichu
Golduck
Rhyhorn
Rhydon

All of these Pokémon are, as I said, missing Gen III movesets. I don't know if you've covered this or not, but there you are. Sorry if I'm wasting any time. ([[User:Spatula|Spatula]] 03:09, 19 August 2008 (UTC))

Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Archive 3

2008-08-19T03:05:43Z

Spatula: /* I've never talked on the discussion board before, but... */ new section

Generation IV

2008-05-05T03:51:25Z

Spatula: /* Other Generation IV games */

'''Generation IV''' is the fourth set of Pokémon games released. It currently consists of [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions]] on the [[Nintendo DS]] and [[Pokémon Battle Revolution]] on the [[Wii]]. Much like [[Generation III]] takes place at the same time as [[Generation I]], Generation IV seems to be contemporary with [[Generation II]]. Presumably there will be a third DS game, as all other generations have had three.

==Advances in gameplay==
This generation is to [[Generation III]] as [[Generation II]] was to [[Generation I]], being compatible with the GBA games by allowing players to transfer up to six Pokémon per cartridge ahead to Sinnoh every 24 hours. Additional advances are as follows:
*[[Time|Day/Night]] system returns from [[Generation II]], with better transitions between the three time periods.
*An actual 3D rendering of the overworld, as opposed to only sprites.
*Distinction between [[Physical move|Physical]] and [[Special move]]s, characteristics which are no longer dependent upon the move's [[type]].
*More [[Abilities]] than in the previous generation.
*107 new Pokémon, including many new evolutions and pre-evolutions of older Pokémon, bringing the total to 493.
*113 new [[move]]s, bringing the total to 467.
*Another new [[villainous team]], [[Team Galactic]].
*Wi-Fi battling and trading over the [[wp:Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection|Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection]], similar to the Mobile Adapter used in conjunction with [[Pokémon Crystal]].
*[[Pokémon Super Contest|New versions]] of [[Pokémon contest|Contests]], with more rounds.
*[[The Underground|Underground]] [[Secret base|bases]] and mini-games including capture the flag.

==Sinnoh starters==
Though it was rumored that the {{type2|Grass}}/{{type2|Fire}}/{{type2|Water}} trio would be replaced instead with a {{type2|Dark}}/{{type2|Psychic}}/{{type2|Fighting}} trio, that much proved to be false, and Diamond and Pearl's starters are the Grass-type {{p|Turtwig}}, the Fire-type {{p|Chimchar}}, and the Water-type {{p|Piplup}}.

==Gym Leaders==
{| border=1 align="left" width=200px style="background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;"
|- style="background: #C0C0FF;"
! #
! Leader
! Type
|-
! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 1
| style="background: #{{rock color}}" align="center" | [[Roark]]
| style="background: #{{rock color}}" align="center" | {{t|Rock}}
|-
! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 2
| style="background: #{{grass color}}" align="center" | [[Gardenia]]
| style="background: #{{grass color}}" align="center" | {{t|Grass}}
|-
! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 3
| style="background: #{{fighting color}}" align="center" | [[Maylene]]
| style="background: #{{fighting color}}" align="center" | {{t|Fighting}}
|-
! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 4
| style="background: #{{water color}}" align="center" | [[Crasher Wake]]
| style="background: #{{water color}}" align="center" | {{t|Water}}
|-
! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 5
| style="background: #{{ghost color}}" align="center" | [[Fantina]]
| style="background: #{{ghost color}}" align="center" | {{t|Ghost}}
|-
! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 6
| style="background: #{{steel color}}" align="center" | [[Byron]]
| style="background: #{{steel color}}" align="center" | {{t|Steel}}
|-
! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 7
| style="background: #{{ice color}}" align="center" | [[Candice]]
| style="background: #{{ice color}}" align="center" | {{t|Ice}}
|-
! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 8
| style="background: #{{electric color}}" align="center" | [[Volkner]]
| style="background: #{{electric color}}" align="center" | {{t|Electric}}
|}
 

==New abilities for old Pokémon==
Some old Pokémon gain new [[ability|abilities]]:
* {{p|Pidgey}}, {{p|Pidgeotto}}, {{p|Pidgeot}}, and {{p|Spinda}} can have '''{{a|Tangled Feet}}'''.
* {{p|Nidoran♀}}, {{p|Nidorina}}, {{p|Nidoqueen}}, {{p|Nidoran♂}}, {{p|Nidorino}} and {{p|Nidoking}} can have '''{{a|Rivalry}}'''.
* {{p|Cleffa}}, {{p|Clefairy}} and {{p|Clefable}} can have '''{{a|Magic Guard}}'''.
* {{p|Paras}} and {{p|Parasect}} can have '''{{a|Dry Skin}}'''.
* {{p|Venonat}}, {{p|Venomoth}}, and {{p|Illumise}} can have '''{{a|Tinted Lens}}'''.
* {{p|Meowth}}, {{p|Persian}}, {{p|Scizor}}, {{p|Scyther}}, {{p|Hitmontop}}, and {{p|Smeargle}} can have '''{{a|Technician}}'''.
* {{p|Mankey}}, {{p|Primeape}}, and {{p|Tauros}} can have '''{{a|Anger Point}}'''.
* {{p|Machop}}, {{p|Machoke}} and {{p|Machamp}} can have '''{{a|No Guard}}'''.
* {{p|Seel}} and {{p|Dewgong}} can have '''{{a|Hydration}}'''.
* {{p|Shellder}} and {{p|Cloyster}} can have '''{{a|Skill Link}}'''.
* {{p|Drowzee}}, {{p|Hypno}}, {{p|Smoochum}}, and {{p|Jynx}} can have '''{{a|Forewarn}}'''.
* {{p|Hitmonlee}} can have '''{{a|Reckless}}'''.
* {{p|Hitmonchan}} can have '''{{a|Iron Fist}}'''.
* {{p|Tangela}}, {{p|Hoppip}}, {{p|Skiploom}}, and {{p|Jumpluff}} can have '''{{a|Leaf Guard}}'''.
* {{p|Kangaskhan}} and {{p|Miltank}} can have '''{{a|Scrappy}}'''.
* {{p|Horsea}}, {{p|Seadra}}, {{p|Kingdra}}, {{p|Remoraid}}, and {{p|Octillery}} can have '''{{a|Sniper}}'''.
* {{p|Mr. Mime}} can have '''{{a|Filter}}'''.
* {{p|Pinsir}} can have '''{{a|Mold Breaker}}'''.
* {{p|Eevee}} can have '''{{a|Adaptibility}}'''.
* {{p|Porygon}} and {{p|Porygon2}} can have '''{{a|Download}}'''.
* {{p|Sunkern}}, {{p|Sunflora}}, and {{p|Tropius}} can have '''{{a|Solar Power}}'''.
* {{p|Murkrow}} and {{p|Absol}} can have '''{{a|Super Luck}}'''.
* {{p|Granbull}}, {{p|Poochyena}}, {{p|Mightyena}}, {{p|Teddiursa}}, and {{p|Ursaring}} can have '''{{a|Quick Feet}}'''.
* {{p|Shuckle}}, {{p|Zigzagoon}}, and {{p|Linoone}} can have '''{{a|Gluttony}}'''.
* {{p|Swinub}} and {{p|Piloswine}} can have '''{{a|Snow Cloak}}'''.
* {{p|Stantler}}, {{p|Shuppet}}, and {{p|Banette}} can have '''{{a|Frisk}}'''.
* {{p|Tyrogue}} can have '''{{a|Steadfast}}'''.
* {{p|Shroomish}} and {{p|Breloom}} can have '''{{a|Poison Heal}}'''.
* {{p|Skitty}} and {{p|Delcatty}} can have '''{{a|Normalize}}'''.
* {{p|Sableye}} can have '''{{a|Stall}}'''.
* {{p|Numel}} can have '''{{a|Simple}}'''.
* {{p|Camerupt}} can have '''{{a|Solid Rock}}'''.
* {{p|Barboach}} and {{p|Whiscash}} can have '''{{a|Anticipation}}'''.
* {{p|Snorunt}}, {{p|Glalie}}, {{p|Spheal}}, {{p|Sealeo}}, and {{p|Walrein}} can have '''{{a|Ice Body}}'''.

==Other Generation IV games==
[[Pokémon Battle Revolution]] features a [[Pokémon Stadium series|Pokémon Stadium]]-like arena for battle, allowing Diamond and Pearl to link to it through wireless communications between the Nintendo DS and Wii, much like previous generations' games would link to [[Pokémon Colosseum|Colosseum]], [[Pokémon XD|XD]], [[Pokémon Stadium (English)|Stadium]], and [[Pokémon Stadium 2|Stadium 2]]. Battle Revolution also features online battles with players around the world via the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection.

Many also hope for a [[Pokémon Gold and Silver remakes|remake]] of [[Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|Gold and Silver]] for the [[Nintendo DS|DS]], much as [[Pokémon Red and Green Versions|Red and Green]] were remade for the [[Game Boy Advance|GBA]] as [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FireRed and LeafGreen]].

There is also speculation that there will be a third game to [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond and Pearl]], like Pokémon [[Pokémon Yellow Version|Yellow]], [[Pokémon Crystal Version|Crystal]] and [[Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald]] of previous generations. It is believed by many fans that the [[version mascot]] of this new game will be either {{p|Mesprit}} or {{p|Giratina}}.

Nintendo Power, in their June 2008 issue, ended with a riddle involving a moon that was a hint to next month's big announcement, After discussion and much speculation, fans have settled on believing that it is a pokéball. Which could mean the announcement of the next game.[[Image:pkmanzconfirm.jpg]]

{{Main series}}
[[Category:Games]]

[[de:Vierte Spielgeneration]]
[[fr:Génération#Quatri.C3.A8me_g.C3.A9n.C3.A9ration]]
[[ja:第四世代]]
[[pt:Geração DP]]

May (anime)

2008-04-12T00:07:55Z

Spatula: /* On hand */

{{CharacterInfobox|
name=May |
jname=ハルカ |
tmname=Haruka |
slogan=no |
image=[[Image:May_Anime_Artwork.jpg|120px]] |
caption=Art from Advanced anime |
age=yes |
years=10 (as of [[AG001|debut]]) |
colors=yes |
eyes=Blue |
hair=Brown |
gender=Female |
hometown=[[Petalburg City]] |
region=[[Hoenn]] |
relatives=[[Max]] (brother), [[Norman]] (father), [[Caroline]] (mother) |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Pokémon Coordinator|Coordinator]] |
game=no |
leader=no |
team=no |
brain=no |
anime=yes |
epnum=AG001 |
epname=Get the Show on the Road |
enva=[[Veronica Taylor]] ([[4Kids]]) [[Michelle Knotz]] ([[PUSA]])|
java=[[KAORI]] |
}}
'''May''' (Japanese: '''ハルカ''' ''Haruka'') is a ten-year-old [[Pokémon Coordinator]] from the [[Pokémon anime|anime]] and a [[Ash's friends|traveling companion]] of [[Ash Ketchum|Ash]]. Her goal is to compete in [[Pokémon Contests]] and win [[Ribbon|ribbons]], win the [[Grand Festival]], and become a top [[Pokémon Coordinator|Coordinator]]. She traveled through [[Hoenn]] with Ash, [[Brock]], and her little brother [[Max]]. She is the daughter of [[Norman]] and [[Caroline]], and her [[starter Pokémon]] was a {{p|Torchic}} given to her by [[Professor Birch]]. She is voiced by [[KAORI]] in the original, by [[Veronica Taylor]] ([[4Kids Entertainment|4Kids]] dub) and [[Michelle Knotz]] ([[Pokémon USA|PUSA]]/[[TAJ Productions|TAJ]] dub) in the English-language dub, by ''Leyla Rangel'' in the Latin American Spanish dub, and by [[Tatiane Keplemaier]] in the Brazilian dub.

==In the anime==
===Character===
May is a materialistic young girl who loves shopping and eating treats. She is generally very sweet and optimistic, though she shows a tougher side sometimes, such as when she argues with [[Max|her little brother, Max]]. She loves [[Cute Contest|cute]] [[Pokémon]] and flashy techniques, and sometimes takes an interest in helping other people with romantic problems. She makes [[Pokéblock]]s, including ones called "May's Purple Surprise" and "May's Pink Surprise" (Japanese: ''Haruka's Delicious'' and ''Haruka's Delicious 2'').

When May debuted in the anime, she did not like Pokémon at all and was only interested in becoming a [[Pokémon Trainer]] so she could travel. She did not know much about [[Pokémon battle|battling]] and gave wrong [[move|attack]] names, and did not like the idea of taking on Trainers as skilled as [[Gym Leader]]s. However, she found a niche for herself in the [[Pokémon world]] when she learned about Pokémon Contests, and began focusing on Pokémon coordinating. She has three main rivals in contests: [[Drew]], [[Jessie]] and [[Harley]]. At the end of the [[Advanced Generation series]], she leaves to compete with Drew and Harley in [[Johto]].

May will reappear in [[DP076]] and [[DP077]] to participate in [[Wallace]]'s [[Pokémon Contest]] alongside [[Ash Ketchum|Ash]], {{an|Dawn}} and [[Zoey]].

May has [[Contest Pass|Contest Passes]] to compete in [[Hoenn]], [[Kanto]] and [[Johto]].

May has a personal [[List of Japanese ending themes|ending theme song]], ''[[I won't lose! ~Haruka's theme~|I won't lose! ~May's theme~]]'', performed by [[KAORI]]. It was first used as the background music in the episode ''[[AG166|Curbing the Crimson Tide]]'' and again in next episode, ''[[AG167|What I Did for Love]]''.

===Pokémon===
This listing is of May's Pokémon as of ''[[AG191|Home is Where the Start Is]]'':

====On hand====
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=375px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center colspan=3| [[Image:255.png]] → [[Image:256.png]] → [[Image:257.png]] 
[[May's Blaziken|Torchic → Combusken → Blaziken]]
|-
| align=center | [[Image:446.png]] {{TP|May|Munchlax}}
| align=center | [[Image:007.png]] → [[Image:008.png]] {{TP|May|Squirtle}}
| align=center | [[Image:DPEgg.png]] → [[Image:133.png]] [[May's Eevee|Egg → Eevee]]
|-
|}

====At home====
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=400px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:265.png]] → [[Image:266.png]] → [[Image:267.png]] [[May's Beautifly|Wurmple → Silcoon → Beautifly]]
| align=center | [[Image:300.png]] {{TP|May|Skitty}}
|-
|}

====With Professor Oak====
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=100px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:May's_Bulbasaur.PNG]] {{TP|May|Bulbasaur}}
|-
|}

===Ribbons===
These are May's ribbons:
====Hoenn ribbons====
* [[Fallarbor Town]] Ribbon
* [[Verdanturf Town]] Ribbon
* [[Lilycove City]] Ribbon
* [[Izabe Island]] Ribbon
* [[Pacifidlog Town|Pacifidlog Island]] Ribbon

====Kanto ribbons====
* [[Saffron City]] Ribbon
* {{Ka|Silver Town}} Ribbon
* [[Chrysanthemum Island]] Ribbon
* [[Gardenia Town]] Ribbon
* [[Mulberry Town]] Ribbon

===Grand Festival ranking===
May placed in the following [[Grand Festival]] competitions:
*[[Hoenn]] Grand Festival (Top 8)
*[[Kanto]] Grand Festival (Top 4)

===Other achievements===
*[[PokéRinger]] - Runner-up
*[[Pokémon Orienteering]] - Runner-up
*Unofficial [[Terracota Town|Terracota]] Contest - Winner (Tied with [[Ash]])

==Trivia==
* May was the first female video game [[Player|protagonist]] to travel with Ash.
* May is the only main character who has two of the same Pokémon as Ash.
* She is the only one of Ash's friends to catch more than one [[starter Pokémon]].
* She is the only one of Ash's friends who started off not liking Pokémon.
* She is the only beginner trainer that was not given an introduction by the [[Narrator]] in their first episode. Instead, she gave her own {{wp|Grammatical person|first person}} introduction.
* May was the second of [[Ash's friends]] to have a lead role in a Pokémon movie. Her brother [[Max]] was the first.
* May and Max are the only friends of Ash not to meet Ash's rival, [[Gary Oak]], at one time or another.
* May and Max are two of three of Ash's friends who has had their father make an appearance in the anime. The other is Brock.
* All of Ash's female friends have a native Korean word as their name in Korean version ([[Misty|dew]], spring and {{an|Dawn|shine}} respectively). Such names were trendy in late 70s, now they are rare.

===Names===
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|-
|Japanese
| ハルカ ''Haruka''
| Contains ''haru'', which means "spring." ''Haruka'' also means "far away," which may relate it to Norman's Japanese name, ''Senri'' ("1000 [[wp:li (unit)|li]]").
|-
|English
| May
| Could be a reference to the Japanese name, as May is a month in spring.
|-
|French
| Flora
| Means "flower".
|-
|German
| Maike
| From ''Mai'', May.
|-
|Italian
| Vera
| From ''primavera'', spring.
|-
|Spanish
| Aura
|Means "dawn".
|-
|Korean
| 봄이 ''Bom'i''
| 봄 means "Spring"
|-
|Chinese (all versions)
| 小遥 ''Xiǎo Yáo''
| From 遥 ''haruka'', far away.
|}

==Related articles==
* [[:Category:Episodes focusing on May|Episodes focusing on May]]

==External links==
*[http://www.namine.org/haruka/ Cherry Girl], the fanlisting for May at [[wp:The Anime Fanlistings Network|The Anime Fanlistings Network]]
*[http://pokeani.com/chara/r-haruka.html Haruka's Profile] on [[Pokeani]] (Japanese)
*[http://pokeani.com/poke/r_poke-haruka.html Haruka's Pokémon] on [[Pokeani]] (Japanese)
===On Bulbagarden forums===
* [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=9031 May Club]
{{May's Pokémon}}
{{Coordinators}}
{{Animecharacters}}
[[Category:Anime characters]]
[[Category:Ash's friends]]

[[de:Maike]]
[[fr:Flora]]
[[ja:ハルカ]]
[[pl:May]]
[[pt:May]]

Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness

2008-02-17T21:37:37Z

Spatula: /* Plot */

{{Infobox_game |
name = Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2 |
boxart = [[Image:MD2cover.jpg|Mystery dungeon 2 boxarts.jpg]] |
caption = The Japanese boxarts. |
category = Dungeon Crawler/Roguelike |
players = 1 |
release_date_ja = Sept. 13, 2007 |
release_date_au = TBA |
release_date_eu = TBA |
release_date_na = Q2 2008 |
release_date_kr = |
publisher = [[Nintendo]] |
developer = [[Chunsoft]] |
esrb = TBA |
website_en = |
website_ja = [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/dungeon/ Official Japanese site]
}}

{{cleanup}}
'''Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time''' and '''Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Darkness''' are a matched pair of Pokémon games for the [[Nintendo DS]].

The games are a sequel to [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]. They include the new [[Generation IV]] Pokémon and have some Wi-Fi features, as well as more dual-screen features than their predecessor for the same system (Mystery Dungeon Blue).

An [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2 (anime)|anime adaptation]] of these games has been produced.

These games feature 491 Pokémon; {{p|Shaymin}} and {{p|Arceus}} were excluded for they had yet to be officially revealed when the games were released.

=Plot=
After selecting a Pokémon from the personality test, the game jumps right in as your player falls into the ocean, only to be saved by your partner Pokémon. The partner wants to be a detective but can't yet join the Wigglytuff Club without another member. So after the two defeat two Pokémon criminals, a {{p|Zubat}} and {{p|Koffing}}, you make a team together.

=Characters=
==Playable characters==
* {{p|Bulbasaur}}
* {{p|Charmander}}
* {{p|Squirtle}}
* {{p|Pikachu}}
* {{p|Meowth}}
* {{p|Chikorita}}
* {{p|Cyndaquil}}
* {{p|Totodile}}
* {{p|Treecko}}
* {{p|Torchic}}
* {{p|Mudkip}}
* {{p|Skitty}}
* {{p|Turtwig}}
* {{p|Chimchar}}
* {{p|Piplup}}
* {{p|Munchlax}}

==Non-player characters==
''This section is based on pre-release screenshots and is not complete.''
===Guild===
* {{p|Wigglytuff}}
* {{p|Chatot}}
* {{p|Loudred}}
* {{p|Diglett}}
* {{p|Dugtrio}}
* {{p|Chimecho}}
* {{p|Croagunk}}
* {{p|Sunflora}}
* {{p|Corphish}}
* {{p|Bidoof}}

===Treasure Town===
* {{p|Kangaskhan}}
* {{p|Xatu}}
* {{p|Kecleon}}
* {{p|Duskull}}
* {{p|Electivire}}
* {{p|Chansey}}
* {{p|Marowak}}

===Expedition Teams===
* Team Razor Wind
** {{p|Zangoose}}
** {{p|Scyther}}
** {{p|Sandslash}}
* Team Poppoboh
** {{p|Pidgey}}
** {{p|Seedot}}
* Team Happies
** {{p|Togepi}}
** {{p|Politoed}}
* Team Poison Rose
** {{p|Skuntank}}
** {{p|Koffing}}
** {{p|Zubat}}
* Team Charms
** {{p|Lopunny}}
** {{p|Gardevoir}}
** {{p|Medicham}}
* Team Eatable
** {{p|Swellow}}
** {{p|Wurmple}}
* Team Poochyenas
** {{p|Poochyena}} ×3
* Team McKuro
** {{p|Shuppet}}
** {{p|Murkrow}}

==Bosses==
While most of the Bosses in this game are the standard Legendaries, there are some average Pokémon added to the mix. The list of boss battles are in dungeon order.

===Story Mode Bosses===
* Zubat and Koffing
* {{p|Drowzee}}
* {{p|Groudon}} (Fake)
* {{p|Luxio}} (Multiple) and {{p|Luxray}}
* {{p|Spiritomb}}
* {{p|Kabutops}} and {{p|Omastar}} (2)
* {{p|Dusknoir}} and {{p|Sableye}} (Multiple)
* Dark {{p|Dialga}}
* {{p|Uxie}}
* {{p|Mesprit}}
* {{p|Azelf}}
* Dialga
* Wigglytuff Guild
* {{p|Froslass}}
* {{p|Gyarados}}
* {{p|Regice}}
* {{p|Regirock}}
* {{p|Registeel}}
* {{p|Regigigas}}, {{p|Hitmonlee}} (4), and {{p|Bronzong}} (4)
* {{p|Palkia}}
* {{p|Darkrai}}

===Wonder Mail Bosses===
Like the previous Mystery Dungeon game, some dungeons are unlocked through Wonder Mail codes. However, unlike the previous game, the bosses below are obtained through these codes.

* {{p|Kyogre}} ('''FN01 HWN- 00%F 8678 +XY@ &%#3''')
* Groudon (Real) ('''#&S6 NY2& YJN= 1P57 F0MN MH7Y''')
* {{p|Articuno}} ('''4MP= K98# CT%Y R@-- &P7% %K86''')
* {{p|Heatran}} ('''FH0T HYNH R0QF 86N8 +SY@ &%YN''')
* {{p|Giratina}} ('''WNWY JXTK &5C1 4N3- P4NM 8K&C''')
* {{p|Rayquaza}} ('''HW+8 66%T 5S51 +J5Y 4-K# H@P-''')
* {{p|Mew}} ('''X%8S WYY+ S-JF PFH@ @##K 5W8K''')
* {{p|Gabite}} ('''78SR -H2M PO+4 Y6FY 1&Y+ #R9S''')

===Item Required Bosses===
Some bosses will need the leader to hold either the Enigma Part or the Secret Stoneplate while going through certain dungeons.

* {{p|Zapdos}}
* {{p|Raikou}}
* {{p|Entei}}
* {{p|Suicune}}
* {{p|Lugia}}
* {{p|Ho-Oh}}
* {{p|Celebi}}
* {{p|Latias}}
* {{p|Latios}}
* {{p|Jirachi}}
* {{p|Deoxys}}

==Miscellaneous NPCs==
* {{p|Krabby}}
* {{p|Grovyle}}
* {{p|Vigoroth}}
* {{p|Shinx}}
* Celebi ([[Shiny]])
* {{p|Lapras}}
* {{p|Torkoal}}
* {{p|Scizor}}
* {{p|Cresselia}}
* {{p|Manaphy}}
* {{p|Phione}}

=External links=
* Bulbanews: [[n:CoroCoro reveals Mystery Dungeon sequel details|CoroCoro reveals Mystery Dungeon sequel details]]
* [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/dungeon/ Official website]
* [http://www.chunsoft.co.jp/games/pokedun2/index.html Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2 page on Chunsoft website]
* [http://www.serebii.net/dungeon2/ Serebii.net: Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2]

{{Side series}}
[[Category:Games]]
[[Category:Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|*]]
[[Category:DS games]]

[[ja:ポケモン不思議のダンジョン時の探検隊・闇の探検隊]]
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Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness

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{{Infobox_game |
name = Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2 |
boxart = [[Image:MD2cover.jpg|Mystery dungeon 2 boxarts.jpg]] |
caption = The Japanese boxarts. |
category = Dungeon Crawler/Roguelike |
players = 1 |
release_date_ja = Sept. 13, 2007 |
release_date_au = TBA |
release_date_eu = TBA |
release_date_na = Q2 2008 |
release_date_kr = |
publisher = [[Nintendo]] |
developer = [[Chunsoft]] |
esrb = TBA |
website_en = |
website_ja = [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/dungeon/ Official Japanese site]
}}

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'''Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time''' and '''Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Darkness''' are a matched pair of Pokémon games for the [[Nintendo DS]].

The games are a sequel to [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]. They include the new [[Generation IV]] Pokémon and have some Wi-Fi features, as well as more dual-screen features than their predecessor for the same system (Mystery Dungeon Blue).

An [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2 (anime)|anime adaptation]] of these games has been produced.

These games feature 491 Pokémon; {{p|Shaymin}} and {{p|Arceus}} were excluded for they had yet to be officially revealed when the games were released.

=Plot=
After selecting a pokémon from the personality test, the game jumps right in as your player falls into the ocean, only to be saved by your partner pokémon. The partner wants to be a detective but can't yet join the Wigglytuff Club without another member. So after the two defeat two pokémon criminals, a {{p|Zubat}} and {{p|Koffing}}, you make a team together.

=Characters=
==Playable characters==
* {{p|Bulbasaur}}
* {{p|Charmander}}
* {{p|Squirtle}}
* {{p|Pikachu}}
* {{p|Meowth}}
* {{p|Chikorita}}
* {{p|Cyndaquil}}
* {{p|Totodile}}
* {{p|Treecko}}
* {{p|Torchic}}
* {{p|Mudkip}}
* {{p|Skitty}}
* {{p|Turtwig}}
* {{p|Chimchar}}
* {{p|Piplup}}
* {{p|Munchlax}}

==Non-player characters==
''This section is based on pre-release screenshots and is not complete.''
===Guild===
* {{p|Wigglytuff}}
* {{p|Chatot}}
* {{p|Loudred}}
* {{p|Diglett}}
* {{p|Dugtrio}}
* {{p|Chimecho}}
* {{p|Croagunk}}
* {{p|Sunflora}}
* {{p|Corphish}}
* {{p|Bidoof}}

===Treasure Town===
* {{p|Kangaskhan}}
* {{p|Xatu}}
* {{p|Kecleon}}
* {{p|Duskull}}
* {{p|Electivire}}
* {{p|Chansey}}
* {{p|Marowak}}

===Expedition Teams===
* Team Razor Wind
** {{p|Zangoose}}
** {{p|Scyther}}
** {{p|Sandslash}}
* Team Poppoboh
** {{p|Pidgey}}
** {{p|Seedot}}
* Team Happies
** {{p|Togepi}}
** {{p|Politoed}}
* Team Poison Rose
** {{p|Skuntank}}
** {{p|Koffing}}
** {{p|Zubat}}
* Team Charms
** {{p|Lopunny}}
** {{p|Gardevoir}}
** {{p|Medicham}}
* Team Eatable
** {{p|Swellow}}
** {{p|Wurmple}}
* Team Poochyenas
** {{p|Poochyena}} ×3
* Team McKuro
** {{p|Shuppet}}
** {{p|Murkrow}}

==Bosses==
While most of the Bosses in this game are the standard Legendaries, there are some average Pokémon added to the mix. The list of boss battles are in dungeon order.

===Story Mode Bosses===
* Zubat and Koffing
* {{p|Drowzee}}
* {{p|Groudon}} (Fake)
* {{p|Luxio}} (Multiple) and {{p|Luxray}}
* {{p|Spiritomb}}
* {{p|Kabutops}} and {{p|Omastar}} (2)
* {{p|Dusknoir}} and {{p|Sableye}} (Multiple)
* Dark {{p|Dialga}}
* {{p|Uxie}}
* {{p|Mesprit}}
* {{p|Azelf}}
* Dialga
* Wigglytuff Guild
* {{p|Froslass}}
* {{p|Gyarados}}
* {{p|Regice}}
* {{p|Regirock}}
* {{p|Registeel}}
* {{p|Regigigas}}, {{p|Hitmonlee}} (4), and {{p|Bronzong}} (4)
* {{p|Palkia}}
* {{p|Darkrai}}

===Wonder Mail Bosses===
Like the previous Mystery Dungeon game, some dungeons are unlocked through Wonder Mail codes. However, unlike the previous game, the bosses below are obtained through these codes.

* {{p|Kyogre}} ('''FN01 HWN- 00%F 8678 +XY@ &%#3''')
* Groudon (Real) ('''#&S6 NY2& YJN= 1P57 F0MN MH7Y''')
* {{p|Articuno}} ('''4MP= K98# CT%Y R@-- &P7% %K86''')
* {{p|Heatran}} ('''FH0T HYNH R0QF 86N8 +SY@ &%YN''')
* {{p|Giratina}} ('''WNWY JXTK &5C1 4N3- P4NM 8K&C''')
* {{p|Rayquaza}} ('''HW+8 66%T 5S51 +J5Y 4-K# H@P-''')
* {{p|Mew}} ('''X%8S WYY+ S-JF PFH@ @##K 5W8K''')
* {{p|Gabite}} ('''78SR -H2M PO+4 Y6FY 1&Y+ #R9S''')

===Item Required Bosses===
Some bosses will need the leader to hold either the Enigma Part or the Secret Stoneplate while going through certain dungeons.

* {{p|Zapdos}}
* {{p|Raikou}}
* {{p|Entei}}
* {{p|Suicune}}
* {{p|Lugia}}
* {{p|Ho-Oh}}
* {{p|Celebi}}
* {{p|Latias}}
* {{p|Latios}}
* {{p|Jirachi}}
* {{p|Deoxys}}

==Miscellaneous NPCs==
* {{p|Krabby}}
* {{p|Grovyle}}
* {{p|Vigoroth}}
* {{p|Shinx}}
* Celebi ([[Shiny]])
* {{p|Lapras}}
* {{p|Torkoal}}
* {{p|Scizor}}
* {{p|Cresselia}}
* {{p|Manaphy}}
* {{p|Phione}}

=External links=
* Bulbanews: [[n:CoroCoro reveals Mystery Dungeon sequel details|CoroCoro reveals Mystery Dungeon sequel details]]
* [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/dungeon/ Official website]
* [http://www.chunsoft.co.jp/games/pokedun2/index.html Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2 page on Chunsoft website]
* [http://www.serebii.net/dungeon2/ Serebii.net: Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2]

{{Side series}}
[[Category:Games]]
[[Category:Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|*]]
[[Category:DS games]]

[[ja:ポケモン不思議のダンジョン時の探検隊・闇の探検隊]]
[[de:Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2]]