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		<title>Talk:J</title>
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		<updated>2008-11-21T00:46:46Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Shrikeswind: /* Smashing Good Fun */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Smashing Good Fun ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Dudes, I noticed a few things about J.  Judging from the following, I conclude that she might have been (as opposed to &amp;quot;was&amp;quot;) based on the concept of the SSE villains.&lt;br /&gt;
:1)  J&#039;s gun turns her targets to stone, much like how the Dark Cannons turn their targets into trophies in the Subspace Emissary.&lt;br /&gt;
:2)  J&#039;s containers resemble Assist Trophies.&lt;br /&gt;
:3)  J&#039;s henchmen&#039;s vans bear some similarity to the Cargo that Wario uses in SSE.&lt;br /&gt;
:4)  We don&#039;t know who J&#039;s clients are, and nothing says J ever met them.  Kinda like Ganondorf in SSE, who only met Tabuu after the fact (Wario and Bowser had been turned into trophies by this point, and thus didn&#039;t meet Tabuu until the very end.)&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s all speculation, of course, but it seems to have some merit.  I&#039;d add it to the article, but I want to know what YOU think about it. -- [[User:Shrikeswind|Shrikeswind]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I acually thought the same thing. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:26, 21 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I concur with the above, but it could just be them playing off the bounty hunter steryotype. I mean&lt;br /&gt;
:1)Boba Fett turned Han Solo into &amp;quot;&amp;quot;Stone&amp;quot;&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
:2) Henchmen? More like Clone troopers+Stormtroopers........&lt;br /&gt;
:3)Looks like the Slave I to me, and functiosn similary. &lt;br /&gt;
:4) We dont know the majority of boba fett&#039;s clients are. kinda like J in Pokemon--[[User:DCM|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF1111&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DCM&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#DAA520&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Shut the **** up&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#C0C0C0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Spy on My Edits&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;))]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:::I see your point, although I notice a few details are inaccurate.&lt;br /&gt;
::::1)  Vader froze Han in Carbonite, not Fett.&lt;br /&gt;
::::2)  Yet again, inaccurate attribution.  Vader controlled the Storm Troopers, not Fett.&lt;br /&gt;
::::3)  No argument.&lt;br /&gt;
::::4)  No argument.&lt;br /&gt;
:::But still, you got a good point. -- [[User:Shrikeswind|Shrikeswind]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Never mind, actually.  I didn&#039;t realize the day her episode aired was 11 months BEFORE Brawl was released.  Still, though, the similarites are creepy. -- [[User:Shrikeswind|Shrikeswind]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Stop the hell it! ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I see J in the Anime Characters template again. But that&#039;s only one reappearance. I doubt she will be a regular antagonist. Well, she isn&#039;t even a proper villain. She&#039;s just some random lunatic woman who seems to hate her name (J isn&#039;t her proper name, is it?). She&#039;s EXACTLY like that infamous PMC. They were just a duo of intergalactic lunatics. Don&#039;t get too excited. It&#039;s just one reappearance. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:18, 26 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:You said that we wouldn&#039;t see her a second time and now we have even more reason to believe she will return.  Do you really think the writers would set up that mysterious man commanding her and not follow up on it? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:09, 8 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== J&#039;s voice ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J is played by [[Hilary Thomas]] according to her profile on wikipedia.org&lt;br /&gt;
:Wikipedia doesn&#039;t note a source for that claim, though.  It could be either... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:18, 8 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Too many pictures!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Jeez guys!! We&#039;re getting crammed with pictures - tone it down a bit. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E75480;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF69B4;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;i&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F6ADC6;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;n&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFC0CB;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFC0CB;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;☆&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F6ADC6;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;♥&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF69B4;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;♫&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]{{Ani|281}}&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:26, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*cough* The pictures are kinda my fault.......--[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF7F00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Theryguy512&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 01:34, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Lookalike ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
She looks like [[Oakley]]. And they both have an Ariados... [[Image:Ani137MS.gif]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF594F;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TESH&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;[[Image:Ani233MS.gif]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User Talk:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#5FA7C6;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TALK&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;[[Image:Ani474MS.gif]] 13:51, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Maybe she&#039;s Annie and Oakley&#039;s mother. *slaps self for posting speculation* Couldn&#039;t help it.--[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0005CD;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;☆&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#15E200;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#DC0062;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 05:22, 29 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Oakley.jpg]][[Image:PokemonHunterJ.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Incorrect trivia ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t want to mess things up any, so I&#039;m not going to fix it, but the trivia section for this character is incorrect. [[Domino]] used an actual weapon (the energy beam function of her tulips) on both Pikachu and the clone Pikachu in Mewtwo Returns.--[[User:Hyperactivezero|Hyperactivezero]] 14:39, 9 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== J or Jay? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yeah, this&#039;ll probably come off stupid, and I don&#039;t even know know why I wonder, but are we sure that they didn&#039;t pull a Simpsons and her name isn&#039;t actually Jay, not J? Yeah, like I said, probably stupid... [[User:The Dark Fiddler|Rawr I say!]] 20:38, 23 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The credits say J[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:##800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Good Day;DCM&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Closed captioning clearly said J.  Unless something along the lines of DVD subtitles say otherwise (and they [[Ship|rarely do]]), we&#039;re sure we&#039;ve got the right name.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 20:41, 23 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok. Like I saidm just sorta wondered if we actually had proof... Sorry for any inconvenience. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|Rawr I say!]] 20:50, 23 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Shrikeswind</name></author>
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		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:J&amp;diff=556418</id>
		<title>Talk:J</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:J&amp;diff=556418"/>
		<updated>2008-11-21T00:35:52Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Shrikeswind: /* Smashing Good Fun */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Smashing Good Fun ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Dudes, I noticed a few things about J.  Judging from the following, I conclude that she might have been (as opposed to &amp;quot;was&amp;quot;) based on the concept of the SSE villains.&lt;br /&gt;
:1)  J&#039;s gun turns her targets to stone, much like how the Dark Cannons turn their targets into trophies in the Subspace Emissary.&lt;br /&gt;
:2)  J&#039;s containers resemble Assist Trophies.&lt;br /&gt;
:3)  J&#039;s henchmen&#039;s vans bear some similarity to the Cargo that Wario uses in SSE.&lt;br /&gt;
:4)  We don&#039;t know who J&#039;s clients are, and nothing says J ever met them.  Kinda like Ganondorf in SSE, who only met Tabuu after the fact (Wario and Bowser had been turned into trophies by this point, and thus didn&#039;t meet Tabuu until the very end.)&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s all speculation, of course, but it seems to have some merit.  I&#039;d add it to the article, but I want to know what YOU think about it. -- [[User:Shrikeswind|Shrikeswind]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I acually thought the same thing. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:26, 21 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I concur with the above, but it could just be them playing off the bounty hunter steryotype. I mean&lt;br /&gt;
:1)Boba Fett turned Han Solo into &amp;quot;&amp;quot;Stone&amp;quot;&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
:2) Henchmen? More like Clone troopers+Stormtroopers........&lt;br /&gt;
:3)Looks like the Slave I to me, and functiosn similary. &lt;br /&gt;
:4) We dont know the majority of boba fett&#039;s clients are. kinda like J in Pokemon--[[User:DCM|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF1111&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DCM&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#DAA520&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Shut the **** up&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#C0C0C0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Spy on My Edits&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;))]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Never mind, actually.  I didn&#039;t realize the day her episode aired was 11 months BEFORE Brawl was released.  Still, though, the similarites are creepy. -- [[User:Shrikeswind|Shrikeswind]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Stop the hell it! ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I see J in the Anime Characters template again. But that&#039;s only one reappearance. I doubt she will be a regular antagonist. Well, she isn&#039;t even a proper villain. She&#039;s just some random lunatic woman who seems to hate her name (J isn&#039;t her proper name, is it?). She&#039;s EXACTLY like that infamous PMC. They were just a duo of intergalactic lunatics. Don&#039;t get too excited. It&#039;s just one reappearance. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:18, 26 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:You said that we wouldn&#039;t see her a second time and now we have even more reason to believe she will return.  Do you really think the writers would set up that mysterious man commanding her and not follow up on it? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:09, 8 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== J&#039;s voice ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J is played by [[Hilary Thomas]] according to her profile on wikipedia.org&lt;br /&gt;
:Wikipedia doesn&#039;t note a source for that claim, though.  It could be either... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:18, 8 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Too many pictures!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jeez guys!! We&#039;re getting crammed with pictures - tone it down a bit. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E75480;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF69B4;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;i&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F6ADC6;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;n&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFC0CB;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFC0CB;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;☆&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F6ADC6;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;♥&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF69B4;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;♫&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]{{Ani|281}}&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:26, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*cough* The pictures are kinda my fault.......--[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF7F00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Theryguy512&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 01:34, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Lookalike ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
She looks like [[Oakley]]. And they both have an Ariados... [[Image:Ani137MS.gif]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF594F;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TESH&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;[[Image:Ani233MS.gif]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User Talk:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#5FA7C6;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TALK&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;[[Image:Ani474MS.gif]] 13:51, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Maybe she&#039;s Annie and Oakley&#039;s mother. *slaps self for posting speculation* Couldn&#039;t help it.--[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0005CD;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;☆&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#15E200;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#DC0062;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 05:22, 29 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Oakley.jpg]][[Image:PokemonHunterJ.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
== Incorrect trivia ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t want to mess things up any, so I&#039;m not going to fix it, but the trivia section for this character is incorrect. [[Domino]] used an actual weapon (the energy beam function of her tulips) on both Pikachu and the clone Pikachu in Mewtwo Returns.--[[User:Hyperactivezero|Hyperactivezero]] 14:39, 9 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== J or Jay? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yeah, this&#039;ll probably come off stupid, and I don&#039;t even know know why I wonder, but are we sure that they didn&#039;t pull a Simpsons and her name isn&#039;t actually Jay, not J? Yeah, like I said, probably stupid... [[User:The Dark Fiddler|Rawr I say!]] 20:38, 23 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The credits say J[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:##800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Good Day;DCM&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Closed captioning clearly said J.  Unless something along the lines of DVD subtitles say otherwise (and they [[Ship|rarely do]]), we&#039;re sure we&#039;ve got the right name.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 20:41, 23 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok. Like I saidm just sorta wondered if we actually had proof... Sorry for any inconvenience. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|Rawr I say!]] 20:50, 23 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Shrikeswind</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:J&amp;diff=556400</id>
		<title>Talk:J</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:J&amp;diff=556400"/>
		<updated>2008-11-21T00:23:21Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Shrikeswind: J a Smash allusion?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Smashing Good Fun ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Dudes, I noticed a few things about J.  Judging from the following, I conclude that she might have been (as opposed to &amp;quot;was&amp;quot;) based on the concept of the SSE villains.&lt;br /&gt;
1)  J&#039;s gun turns her targets to stone, much like how the Dark Cannons turn their targets into trophies in the Subspace Emissary.&lt;br /&gt;
2)  J&#039;s containers resemble Assist Trophies.&lt;br /&gt;
3)  J&#039;s henchmen&#039;s vans bear some similarity to the Cargo that Wario uses in SSE.&lt;br /&gt;
4)  We don&#039;t know who J&#039;s clients are, and nothing says J ever met them.  Kinda like Ganondorf in SSE, who only met Tabuu after the fact (Wario and Bowser had been turned into trophies by this point, and thus didn&#039;t meet Tabuu until the very end.)&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s all speculation, of course, but it seems to have some merit.  I&#039;d add it to the article, but I want to know what YOU think about it. -- [[User:Shrikeswind|Shrikeswind]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Stop the hell it! ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I see J in the Anime Characters template again. But that&#039;s only one reappearance. I doubt she will be a regular antagonist. Well, she isn&#039;t even a proper villain. She&#039;s just some random lunatic woman who seems to hate her name (J isn&#039;t her proper name, is it?). She&#039;s EXACTLY like that infamous PMC. They were just a duo of intergalactic lunatics. Don&#039;t get too excited. It&#039;s just one reappearance. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:18, 26 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:You said that we wouldn&#039;t see her a second time and now we have even more reason to believe she will return.  Do you really think the writers would set up that mysterious man commanding her and not follow up on it? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:09, 8 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== J&#039;s voice ==&lt;br /&gt;
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J is played by [[Hilary Thomas]] according to her profile on wikipedia.org&lt;br /&gt;
:Wikipedia doesn&#039;t note a source for that claim, though.  It could be either... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:18, 8 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Too many pictures!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Jeez guys!! We&#039;re getting crammed with pictures - tone it down a bit. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E75480;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF69B4;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;i&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F6ADC6;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;n&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFC0CB;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFC0CB;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;☆&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F6ADC6;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;♥&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF69B4;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;♫&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]{{Ani|281}}&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:26, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*cough* The pictures are kinda my fault.......--[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF7F00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Theryguy512&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 01:34, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Lookalike ==&lt;br /&gt;
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She looks like [[Oakley]]. And they both have an Ariados... [[Image:Ani137MS.gif]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF594F;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TESH&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;[[Image:Ani233MS.gif]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User Talk:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#5FA7C6;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TALK&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;[[Image:Ani474MS.gif]] 13:51, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Maybe she&#039;s Annie and Oakley&#039;s mother. *slaps self for posting speculation* Couldn&#039;t help it.--[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0005CD;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;☆&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#15E200;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#DC0062;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 05:22, 29 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Oakley.jpg]][[Image:PokemonHunterJ.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Incorrect trivia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t want to mess things up any, so I&#039;m not going to fix it, but the trivia section for this character is incorrect. [[Domino]] used an actual weapon (the energy beam function of her tulips) on both Pikachu and the clone Pikachu in Mewtwo Returns.--[[User:Hyperactivezero|Hyperactivezero]] 14:39, 9 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== J or Jay? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, this&#039;ll probably come off stupid, and I don&#039;t even know know why I wonder, but are we sure that they didn&#039;t pull a Simpsons and her name isn&#039;t actually Jay, not J? Yeah, like I said, probably stupid... [[User:The Dark Fiddler|Rawr I say!]] 20:38, 23 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The credits say J[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:##800000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Good Day;DCM&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Closed captioning clearly said J.  Unless something along the lines of DVD subtitles say otherwise (and they [[Ship|rarely do]]), we&#039;re sure we&#039;ve got the right name.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 20:41, 23 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok. Like I saidm just sorta wondered if we actually had proof... Sorry for any inconvenience. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|Rawr I say!]] 20:50, 23 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Shrikeswind</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Cinnabar_Island&amp;diff=549509</id>
		<title>Cinnabar Island</title>
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		<updated>2008-11-14T06:08:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Shrikeswind: /* Trivia */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Infobox town&lt;br /&gt;
|town=Cinnabar Island&lt;br /&gt;
|characters=グレンじま&lt;br /&gt;
|japanese=Guren Shima / Guren Island&lt;br /&gt;
|image=Cinnabarisland-frlg.png&lt;br /&gt;
|slogan=The Fiery Town of Burning Desire&lt;br /&gt;
|region=Kanto&lt;br /&gt;
|routes={{rt|21}} (North)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{rt|20}} (East)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|bottom=gym&lt;br /&gt;
|gymname=[[Cinnabar Gym]]&lt;br /&gt;
|leader=[[Blaine]]&lt;br /&gt;
|badge=Volcanobadge&lt;br /&gt;
|type=Fire&lt;br /&gt;
|map=Cinnabar Island.png&lt;br /&gt;
|colordark=B23D33&lt;br /&gt;
|colorlight=D89D98&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Cinnabarrby.PNG|thumb|Cinnabar Island in Generation I.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Cinnabargsc.png|thumb|Cinnabar Island in Generation II.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Cinnabar Island&#039;&#039;&#039; (Japanese: &#039;&#039;&#039;グレンじま&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Guren Shima&#039;&#039;, also &#039;&#039;Guren Island&#039;&#039;) is a large island located off the southern coast of the [[Kanto]] region, south of [[Pallet Town]]. It is home to a large volcano. [[Blaine]] is the resident [[Gym Leader]], specializing in {{type2|Fire}} [[Pokémon]]. {{wp|Cinnabar}} is a kind of red mineral, which gave the color its name.&lt;br /&gt;
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== In the games ==&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Generation I]] games reveal Cinnabar Island to be a technological mecca. The journals scattered about the abandoned [[Pokémon Mansion]] suggest that {{p|Mewtwo}} was cloned here. The scientists at the [[Pokémon Lab]] have the ability to resurrect [[Pokémon]] from their [[fossil]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
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By the [[Generation II]] games, the large volcano has erupted, destroying everything except the [[Pokémon Center]]. After the eruption, the [[Gym]] was relocated to the [[Seafoam Islands]].&lt;br /&gt;
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There are no land paths to the island. Instead {{rt|20}} in the east and {{rt|21}} in the north are both [[water route|waterways]] through the ocean.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Places of interest ==&lt;br /&gt;
===Cinnabar Gym===&lt;br /&gt;
{{main|Cinnabar Gym}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== In the anime ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Cinnabar Island volcano.JPG|thumb|left|The opening to the volcano on Cinnabar Island]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Cinnabar Island is considered a mere beach resort in the {{pkmn|anime}}. Many {{pkmn|trainer}}s skip the island entirely or go there for a break from [[Pokémon battles|battling]]. [[Blaine]] runs a hotel for tourists and wears a hippie disguise to hide his real identity as [[Gym Leader]]. His [[Gym]] is located inside of the volcano.&lt;br /&gt;
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Aside from inside of the Pokémon Mansion, wild Pokémon also appear in the ocean around the island.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pokémon that appear in Cinnabar Island ==&lt;br /&gt;
===Generation I===&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Catchableheader}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Catchentry1|072|Tentacool|no|no|yes|Fishing|15-30|40%}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Catchentry1|090|Shellder|yes|yes|no|Fishing|15|25%}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Catchentry1|116|Horsea|yes|yes|no|Fishing|15|25%}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Catchentry1|118|Goldeen|yes|yes|no|Fishing|15|25%}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Catchentry1|120|Staryu|yes|yes|no|Fishing|15|25%}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Catchentry1|120|Staryu|no|no|yes|Fishing|10-15|60%}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Catchablefooter}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Generation III===&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Psyduck}} (FireRed only)&lt;br /&gt;
* Tentacool&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Slowpoke}} (LeafGreen only)&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Slowbro}} (LeafGreen only)&lt;br /&gt;
* Shellder (FireRed only)&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Krabby}}&lt;br /&gt;
* Horsea&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Seadra}} (FireRed only)&lt;br /&gt;
* Staryu (LeafGreen only)&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Magikarp}}&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Gyarados}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
*Although the games show no actual volcano on or around Cinnabar Island, one still managed to somehow explode a year prior to the {{player}}&#039;s adventure, during [[Generation II]]. This could be explained as Cinnabar&#039;s volcano and/or the island being a {{wp|shield volcano}}, where in the anime it appears as a {{wp|stratovolcano}} like {{wp|Mt. Fuji}}. Although likely to be a shield volcano in the games, the eruption was cited in Gold, Silver and Crystal as being so intense that it sent large boulders as far as the shore just south of [[Fuchsia City]], which isn&#039;t a general characteristic of a shield volcano.  Another possibility is that Cinnabar Island &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; a stratovolcano, and that the surface of the island is actually the very peak.&lt;br /&gt;
*Cinnabar Island has many glitches associated with it in the [[Generation I]] games, such as [[Missingno.]] There is also a trick to see a man on the roof of the [[Cinnabar Gym|Gym]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==In other languages==&lt;br /&gt;
{| border=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;&amp;quot; cellspacing=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot; cellpadding=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background: #ccf;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! Language&lt;br /&gt;
! Name&lt;br /&gt;
! Origin&lt;br /&gt;
|- &lt;br /&gt;
| Japanese&lt;br /&gt;
| グレンじま Guren Shima&lt;br /&gt;
| 紅蓮 (&#039;&#039;guren&#039;&#039;) refers to the red color of the Crimson lotus.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| English&lt;br /&gt;
| Cinnabar Island&lt;br /&gt;
| From &#039;&#039;cinnabar&#039;&#039;, a reddish mineral.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| French&lt;br /&gt;
| Cramois&#039;île&lt;br /&gt;
| From &#039;&#039;cramoisi&#039;&#039;, crimson, and &#039;&#039;île&#039;&#039;, island.&lt;br /&gt;
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| German&lt;br /&gt;
| Zinnoberinsel&lt;br /&gt;
| From &#039;&#039;Zinnoberrot&#039;&#039;, carmine, and &#039;&#039;Insel&#039;&#039;, island.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Italian&lt;br /&gt;
| Isola Cannella&lt;br /&gt;
| From &#039;&#039;isola&#039;&#039;, island, and &#039;&#039;cannella&#039;&#039;, cinnamon.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Spanish&lt;br /&gt;
| Isla Canela&lt;br /&gt;
| From &#039;&#039;isla&#039;&#039;, island, and &#039;&#039;canela&#039;&#039;, cinnamon.&lt;br /&gt;
|- &lt;br /&gt;
| Korean&lt;br /&gt;
| 홍련섬 Hongryeon Seom&lt;br /&gt;
| 홍련 (&#039;&#039;hongryeon&#039;&#039;) means red lotus.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Chinese (Mandarin)&lt;br /&gt;
| 紅蓮鎮/红莲镇 Hónglián Zhèn&lt;br /&gt;
| &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Chinese (Cantonese)&lt;br /&gt;
| 紅蓮鎮 Hunglin Zan&lt;br /&gt;
| &lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Towns of Kanto}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Kanto locations]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Red, Blue and Yellow locations]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Gold, Silver and Crystal locations]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:FireRed and LeafGreen locations]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Islands]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[de:Zinnoberinsel]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[ja:グレンタウン]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Shrikeswind</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rotom_(Pok%C3%A9mon)/Archive_1&amp;diff=337247</id>
		<title>Talk:Rotom (Pokémon)/Archive 1</title>
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		<updated>2008-04-06T22:57:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Shrikeswind: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Shouldn&#039;t we classify Rotom as a legendary?&lt;br /&gt;
:No, because it&#039;s not. It&#039;s just rare. It can breed. It&#039;s about as legendary as Sudowoodo in GenII. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 19:38, 24 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Just because it can breed doesn&#039;t mean that it&#039;s not Legendary. Manaphy is Legendary, but it can breed. Also, there&#039;s obviously some significance to it having to same weight, and being directly before the Lake Trio on the National Dex. --[[User:Vladek|Vladek]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::Not really. Snorlax is directly before Articuno, and it&#039;s of the same type as Rotom (i.e. rare but not legendary). And Manaphy is just the exception that proves the rule. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 18:34, 23 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::An exception that proves the rule? O_o Last I checked, an exception disproved things. Also, does Snorlax have the same weight as Articuno? Didn&#039;t think so. --[[User:Vladek|Vladek]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Rotom is &#039;&#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039;&#039; legendary and never will be. Have you seen any tales about Rotom. Or have you read the Pokédex entries? They don&#039;t have anything to do with the past. Face it...Rotom is &#039;&#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039;&#039; legendary...[[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Optimus35|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0066CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;A&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#3D81EE&amp;quot;&amp;gt;g&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#66B5FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;e&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#99C9FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;n&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C3D9FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000080&amp;quot;&amp;gt;4&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000080&amp;quot;&amp;gt;4&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000080&amp;quot;&amp;gt;8&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Optimus35|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000080&amp;quot;&amp;gt;♪♪♪&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;amp;amp;Pearl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #B0E0E6&amp;quot;&amp;gt;D&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #FFC0CB&amp;quot;&amp;gt;P&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; | [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&amp;amp;title=Special%3AContributions&amp;amp;contribs=user&amp;amp;target=Optimus35&amp;amp;namespace=0&amp;amp;year=&amp;amp;month=-1 ☆]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;[[Image:Ani282MS.gif]]  07:45, 3 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Pokemon.com says it isn&#039;t in there mailbag so it&#039;s that simple it&#039;s not a legendary pokemon-[[Image:Ani487MS.gif]]Darkmaster0[[Image:Ani493MS.gif]][[Image:Ani491MS.gif]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I won&#039;t say that it is a legendary, but I just want to point out to Optimus35 that {{p|Articuno}}, {{p|Zapdos}}, {{p|Moltres}}, {{p|Mew}} and ESPECIALLY {{p|Mewtwo}} weren&#039;t featured in legends either, and they were still referred to as legendary pokémon, so the &amp;quot;Not appearing in legends&amp;quot; thing doesn&#039;t really cut it. By legends, I mean folk tales told by NPCs during the various games (which they [the folk tales, I mean] started in Gen II).&lt;br /&gt;
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~~Weedle_McHairybug~~&lt;br /&gt;
:The legendary birds had most of their legendary crap in their dex entries. Remember, Gen I was where it was just starting; &amp;quot;legendary&amp;quot; meant little more than &amp;quot;special&amp;quot;, one of a kind (or really rare) things. Now of course it means much more, and the birds are in their place with the rest of the trios, with their story kindasorta filled in by the anime. Mew and Mewtwo... well, jeez, who &#039;&#039;didn&#039;t&#039;&#039; see MSB? {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 00:13, 20 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Music shouldn&#039;t be treated as the primary way of determining Legendary status.  Next you&#039;ll be telling me Shaymin&#039;s not a Legendary.  Nintendo accepts the Legendary Pokémon to NOT include Rotom, which should be enough, but if it&#039;s not, consider this:  Rotom can breed artificially and produce another Rotom indirectly or otherwise.  Further, Rotom is not the byproduct itself of a Legendary.  A solid definition for a Legendary at this point would include two basic structures:  The Pokémon is unable to breed another member of the same evolutionary line artificially, though the offspring is still considered a Legendary due to the Legendary parent.  A Legendary Pokémon is accepted as Legendary by Nintendo.  Only those and nothing more.  That&#039;s why Rotom is not a Legendary Pokémon.&lt;br /&gt;
:Technically, Legendaries are all in legends, whch is why Manaphy is one. Phione...ask Nintendo. &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot; color:navy&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;11:15 6 Apr 2008&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
::Not Mewtwo.  Mewtwo is canonically too new of a Pokémon to feature in legends.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Coronet? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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http://images.wikia.com/telefang/images//d/d9/2-061.png&lt;br /&gt;
Does this guy look like Rotom or what?--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 12:18, 6 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Are you going somewhere with this or are you just making a comparison? -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 12:49, 6 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m basically just making a comparison here.  But I would also like to know if Rotom&#039;s slight resemblance to a Telefang monster is worthy of being mentioned.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 13:11, 6 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::This is your opinion that they share a resemblance...someone&#039;s opinion is not fact. I don&#039;t see this resemblance. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 14:48, 6 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Well, both Rotom and Coronet&#039;s basic form are floating orbs with a spike on top.  But if you don&#039;t think that it isn&#039;t worth mentioning, then I won&#039;t mention it.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 14:59, 6 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: Agreeing with Sketchies, we already have enough [[Kirlia|problems]] with [[Snorlax|opinion]] being [[Buizel|treated]] as [[Jirachi|fact]] throughout various Pokémon articles. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 15:17, 6 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::..for a second I thought you meant that I was the problem there. o_o To be honest, I don&#039;t see any particular resemblance bewtween the two. [[User:Tina|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E75480&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Tina&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E75480&amp;quot;&amp;gt;δ&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Tina|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E75480&amp;quot;&amp;gt;♫&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:19, 6 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Shrikeswind</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rotom_(Pok%C3%A9mon)/Archive_1&amp;diff=336718</id>
		<title>Talk:Rotom (Pokémon)/Archive 1</title>
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		<updated>2008-04-06T05:29:46Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Shrikeswind: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Shouldn&#039;t we classify Rotom as a legendary?&lt;br /&gt;
:No, because it&#039;s not. It&#039;s just rare. It can breed. It&#039;s about as legendary as Sudowoodo in GenII. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 19:38, 24 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Just because it can breed doesn&#039;t mean that it&#039;s not Legendary. Manaphy is Legendary, but it can breed. Also, there&#039;s obviously some significance to it having to same weight, and being directly before the Lake Trio on the National Dex. --[[User:Vladek|Vladek]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::Not really. Snorlax is directly before Articuno, and it&#039;s of the same type as Rotom (i.e. rare but not legendary). And Manaphy is just the exception that proves the rule. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 18:34, 23 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::An exception that proves the rule? O_o Last I checked, an exception disproved things. Also, does Snorlax have the same weight as Articuno? Didn&#039;t think so. --[[User:Vladek|Vladek]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Rotom is &#039;&#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039;&#039; legendary and never will be. Have you seen any tales about Rotom. Or have you read the Pokédex entries? They don&#039;t have anything to do with the past. Face it...Rotom is &#039;&#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039;&#039; legendary...[[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Optimus35|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0066CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;A&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#3D81EE&amp;quot;&amp;gt;g&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#66B5FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;e&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#99C9FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;n&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C3D9FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000080&amp;quot;&amp;gt;4&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000080&amp;quot;&amp;gt;4&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000080&amp;quot;&amp;gt;8&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Optimus35|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000080&amp;quot;&amp;gt;♪♪♪&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;amp;amp;Pearl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #B0E0E6&amp;quot;&amp;gt;D&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #FFC0CB&amp;quot;&amp;gt;P&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; | [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&amp;amp;title=Special%3AContributions&amp;amp;contribs=user&amp;amp;target=Optimus35&amp;amp;namespace=0&amp;amp;year=&amp;amp;month=-1 ☆]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;[[Image:Ani282MS.gif]]  07:45, 3 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Pokemon.com says it isn&#039;t in there mailbag so it&#039;s that simple it&#039;s not a legendary pokemon-[[Image:Ani487MS.gif]]Darkmaster0[[Image:Ani493MS.gif]][[Image:Ani491MS.gif]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I won&#039;t say that it is a legendary, but I just want to point out to Optimus35 that {{p|Articuno}}, {{p|Zapdos}}, {{p|Moltres}}, {{p|Mew}} and ESPECIALLY {{p|Mewtwo}} weren&#039;t featured in legends either, and they were still referred to as legendary pokémon, so the &amp;quot;Not appearing in legends&amp;quot; thing doesn&#039;t really cut it. By legends, I mean folk tales told by NPCs during the various games (which they [the folk tales, I mean] started in Gen II).&lt;br /&gt;
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:The legendary birds had most of their legendary crap in their dex entries. Remember, Gen I was where it was just starting; &amp;quot;legendary&amp;quot; meant little more than &amp;quot;special&amp;quot;, one of a kind (or really rare) things. Now of course it means much more, and the birds are in their place with the rest of the trios, with their story kindasorta filled in by the anime. Mew and Mewtwo... well, jeez, who &#039;&#039;didn&#039;t&#039;&#039; see MSB? {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 00:13, 20 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Music shouldn&#039;t be treated as the primary way of determining Legendary status.  Next you&#039;ll be telling me Shaymin&#039;s not a Legendary.  Nintendo accepts the Legendary Pokémon to NOT include Rotom, which should be enough, but if it&#039;s not, consider this:  Rotom can breed artificially and produce another Rotom indirectly or otherwise.  Further, Rotom is not the byproduct itself of a Legendary.  A solid definition for a Legendary at this point would include two basic structures:  The Pokémon is unable to breed another member of the same evolutionary line artificially, though the offspring is still considered a Legendary due to the Legendary parent.  A Legendary Pokémon is accepted as Legendary by Nintendo.  Only those and nothing more.  That&#039;s why Rotom is not a Legendary Pokémon.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Shrikeswind</name></author>
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		<title>Talk:EP055</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Shrikeswind: New page: Just a question about our translation for &amp;quot;Shutter Chance.&amp;quot;  Don&amp;#039;t get me wrong, the translation is nifty in that it&amp;#039;s very descriptive, but it seems rather formal to me.  Now, I&amp;#039;m not exa...&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Just a question about our translation for &amp;quot;Shutter Chance.&amp;quot;  Don&#039;t get me wrong, the translation is nifty in that it&#039;s very descriptive, but it seems rather formal to me.  Now, I&#039;m not exactly a guru in the Japanese language, but it seems to me that the phrase &amp;quot;Shutter Chance&amp;quot; might be more like the English term &amp;quot;Photo Op.&amp;quot;  If anyone here is more functional in Japanese, could you tell me if this feeling is accurate?  Essentially, I&#039;m asking, is &amp;quot;Shutter Chance&amp;quot; a more relaxed way of saying &amp;quot;Good Time to Take a Picture,&amp;quot; or is that the formal way of saying it?&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Shrikeswind</name></author>
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		<title>Talk:Gallade (Pokémon)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Shrikeswind: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Altered some of the information to make Gardevoir less confusing. Gardevoir is a feminine yet gender neutral evolution of Kirlia.&lt;br /&gt;
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Gardevoir is my favorite pokemon, and I like Gallade, but, i&#039;m still disapointed with his look. To big of a waste.&lt;br /&gt;
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Quick question, is Gallade&#039;s mouth the beak-like part of his head or the semi-visible line below his eye?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Pretty sure it&#039;s the latter. -- [[user:Jioruji Derako|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#237d00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;J&#039;&#039;&#039;ioruji &#039;&#039;&#039;D&#039;&#039;&#039;erako.&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 17:14, 12 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Think maybe Gallade&#039;s English name came from Sir Galahad?  Just a random thought.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Shrikeswind</name></author>
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