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2015-07-14T22:28:31Z

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[[Talk:Legendary Pokémon/Archive1|Archive #1]] 
[[Talk:Legendary Pokémon/Archive2|Archive #2]]

== Separating Mythical and Legendary Pokémon ==

The matter of separating the articles of Legendary and Mythical Pokémon is in discussion because of Generation VI's newly introduced disambiguation of the term ''Mythical Pokémon''. I have started a [[User:Ash Pokemaster/Mythical Pokémon|short draft]] that anyone should feel free to expand. Meanwhile, in response to [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) [[Talk:Legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon/Archive2#Separation|15:18, 5 May 2015 (UTC)]]:
:A better phrasing might be "a related group of Pokémon related to Legendary Pokémon", but I'm being conservative for the time being. I haven't found evidence supporting that ''Mythical Pokémon'' are indeed ''Legendary'' (as far as Japanese media are concerned), and the fact that [http://www.pokemonconquest.com/en-us/outline/densetsu recent] text refers to all of them collectively as "Legendary and Mythical Pokémon" makes me think they aren't. Mythical Pokémon as an English term may be relatively recent, but 幻のポケモン has always been a thing -- it has been in use on and off since 1998 (potentially even earlier, in Mew ads from 1996). It started catching on (that is to say, being used more commonly) around [http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/history/ 2007] or 2008. Prior to that, reference to Mythical Pokémon has been generally informal, with several other terms like [https://web.archive.org/web/20040404003246/http://www.pokemon.co.jp/game/deoxys/index.html 特別なポケモン] (''Tokubetsuna Pokémon'', probably a parallel to ''Event Pokémon'') seen in official media. Ever since Gen 5, it has been in use unambiguously. You can even find a formal definition of 幻のポケモン in Pokescrap's [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/pokescrap2014/pokemon/ page].

:As of today (arguably since [[Talk:Legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon/Archive2#Mythical_and_Legendary_classification_with_sources|Gen 5]]) the same holds for ''Mythical'', as there is no reference of Mythical Pokémon being Legendary anywhere, as far as I know. Even cases like Deoxys, where 幻のポケモン was originally mistranslated as ''Legendary Pokémon'', are now properly classified. The assumption that Mythical Pokémon are Legendary is natural, and the western community especially is accustomed to the convention for most of the franchise's life, with the proper term coined years after its Japanese counterpart (granted, the term ''Rare Pokémon'' was once being used in places like Pokémon Ranger and [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pokemon.com_officially_reveals_Shaymin announcements]), but I have to ask: what's the point of including Mythical Pokémon in the Legendary Pokémon page when they aren't officially referred to as ''Legendary Pokémon''? Saving clicks? Is an encyclopedia's mission to pander to the community's fondness of obsolete terminology, or is it to be accurate and in-line with the series' current conventions and lore? [[User:Ash Pokemaster|Ash Pokemaster]] ([[User talk:Ash Pokemaster|talk]]) 17:41, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
::Bulbapedia's mission is not necessarily to be official, it's to be an informative English-language Pokémon encyclopedia, which happens to be a mission that involves official sources. Since we're just going in circles ''again'', let me just point out that when the community searches for "Legendary Pokémon", they expect to find info on Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, et cetera in addition to those normally obtainable within their debut generation. Splitting the page would also have the effect of splitting Mew and Keldeo from their respective legendary "families", to the detriment of the wiki. In addition, my position since the start of English-language Gen V has been that mythicals are a subset of legendaries, and as I pointed out last time we talked about this, North American ''Super Smash Bros. for Wii U'' backs me up, while you have not cited an English-language source in your argument. [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 06:50, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
:::I suppose that we principally disagree on whether Bulbapedia's coverage should be based strictly on canonical sources (which exclude contradicting English-language sources which commonly include mistranslations, although this may also be a matter of argument) or be more in-line with fans' expectations. I will admit I have no source that downright states "Mythical Pokémon are not a subset of Legendary Pokémon", but what's the point of the "Legendary and Mythical Pokémon" statement if the latter aren't a separate group? It would be a redundancy. Your NA Smash Bros. argument only augments my point, if only because the difference between the European and the NA version simply proves that there's an existing ambiguity that the more careful sources (ie. the ones that don't spell Onix as "Onyx") take under consideration. Besides, why should it be taken under consideration over the European translation? What makes it inherently more valid?
:::I will agree that this is most likely going to go in circles. It would be better to let other people weigh in. --[[User:Ash Pokemaster|Ash Pokemaster]] ([[User talk:Ash Pokemaster|talk]]) 07:37, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
::::People expecting to find Mythical Pokémon when coming to this page can be solved with a hatnote and in-article prose. However, we should be using official definitions whereever possible. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:38, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
::SnorlaxMonster and Ash Pokemaster, I get what you're implying, and I see your reasoning, but do you actually have a source that ''directly'' states mythicals are not legendaries? [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 11:37, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
:::Yes, there is an official source that explicitly shows they're separate groups that don't overlap: Corocoro. In either October or November 2014 - can't remember which - Corocoro promised that '''every''' Legendary Pokémon would be available for capture in ORAS. Come the games' release, we saw that this didn't include Mythical Pokémon. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 23:41, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
::::Corocoro is a Japanese source, and the debate is over the English terminology. However, both the US and UK official ORAS sites made the same claim, albeit with different wording, stating that "between XYORAS, all Legendary Pokémon will be ''obtainable''". [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 07:57, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
:::::No, the debate is ''not'' on the English terminology, but on the ''group to which it refers.'' They're still called Legendary and Mythical whether Bulbapedia says Mythical is a subset or a separate group. In fact, ''the page has actually called Mythical by the same name under both circumstances in the past.'' that ''isn't'' being debated right now. What is being debated is whether Mythical Pokémon, [http://www.pokepedia.fr/Pokémon_fabuleux a group which exists in other languages as well and is NOT exclusive to the English language], is separate from Legendary. This has absolutely nothing to do with the name of the group when the group itself is the same in the other languages - the idea of things having different names in different languages applies to basically everything else in Pokémon as well, and doesn't prevent foreign language sources from being used as evidence when the subject itself remains identical. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 03:41, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
::::::The debate is on the group to which it refers ''in English'', so this is indeed over English terminology. [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 11:28, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
:::::::Sorry, but... I don't understand what you mean? As I JUST explained, the group exists in every language. The group, which is consistent throughout every language, is ''referred to in English'' as Mythical, but ''still exists, albeit by various other names,'' in other languages - like ''everything else in the series,'' actually. I even provided a link to the French encyclopædia Pokémonis as proof of the group's existence in other languages. The name has absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about. By your logic, no Japanese source could be used for anything that has a different name in English. To reiterate from my previous post: '''we aren't debating the name of the group.''' We're debating whether or not said group, ''which exists in every language,'' albeit with a different name ''because it is translated like everything else in the series,'' is separate from Legendary, another group ''which exists in every language,'' again with different names ''because it is translated like everything else in the series.'' Please, explain ''why'' having a different name would prevent a group that is otherwise ''completely consistent between languages'' from being considered the same thing when everything else in the series is in the same situation. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 18:37, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

==Mythical Pokémon = Events?==

I know for a fact that the only difference I have found from Legendary and Mythical Pokémon is that most Mythical Pokémon are usually event exclusive with even stats all over (most of the time) and that Legendary Pokémon are usually found towards the ends of games and commonly have higher stats than Mythical Pokémon (not counting Mega Diancie). [[User:BowserBrowser|BowserBrowser]] ([[User talk:BowserBrowser|talk]]) 10:29, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
:It's actually even simpler than that. Legendaries are available in-game. Mythical are unavailable in-game. Nothing else you mentioned is related. It has nothing to do with high stats versus low, or being near the end of the game, or "usually" being event-exclusive (even Deoxys, formerly Mythical, has been listed as "other" in the Japanese promotional material and simply hasn't been referenced as either Legendary ''or'' Mythical in English promotions since ORAS made it available as far as I know - being event-only is not "usually" a trait shared, but ''always'' the case), or whether stats are balanced or specialized. There is a clear-cut distinction between them. (Also, just as a side note, the definition was already on the article before you said this, so I'm not really sure what your point was? XD) [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 23:41, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

==Deoxys==
To avoid edit warring, I'm not changing the page right now (I already had changed Deoxys to say it isn't Mythical and that was reverted, so I'm pretty sure doing so again wouldn't be allowed), but I just wanted to explain the argument against Deoxys being Mythical.
In the Pokémon Scrap event, where you had to collect those clippings to earn Shaymin, Keldeo and Victini, the page on the official site explicitly stated something along the lines of "Shaymin, Keldeo and Victini, '''like other Mythical Pokémon,''' cannot be normally obtained in Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire." This is an official statement that Mythical does '''always''' mean event-only, so Deoxys isn't an exception - it's just not Mythical '''any more.''' It was before, but it has officially lost the status. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 23:41, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
:I hadn't noticed this ambiguity until now. You're quite right, it wasn't referred to as a Mythical Pokémon during the ORAS promotion. Granted, it isn't referred to as a Legendary either -- just "Pokémon Deoxys". I think it ought to be classified as a Mythical for the time being, if only because otherwise we might end up revisioning multiple Pokémon way too often (for all we know special "Episodes" that feature Mythical Pokémon might become a regular thing). However, a footnote for its special status is definitely needed, and we have to revisit its situation by the time the ORAS era is over and a new Deoxys event (or game inclusion) makes appearance.

:Which Pokescrap page are you referring to, by the way? The definition used in the (now [http://web.archive.org/web/20141231060449/http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/pokescrap2014/pokemon/ archived]) page simply says that Mythical Pokémon aren't available during normal play of the games. It would be interesting if it was indeed explicitly mentioned somewhere that "no Mythical Pokémon are available in ORAS" as far as Deoxys's status is concerned. --[[User:Ash Pokemaster|Ash Pokemaster]] ([[User talk:Ash Pokemaster|talk]]) 06:25, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
::Ah, sorry; I was actually wrong (I couldn't find the page, so I was going from memory) - it doesn't explicitly state "in ORAS." Still, the promotion was ''for'' ORAS, and Deoxys has not been called Mythical since, so it should still be valid evidence, right?
::Also, I'm not sure it'd be as hard as you say to fix it. I mean, if the official classification changes, we should fix it here, right? We add hundreds of pages whenever a new game comes out, so changing one Pokémon's classification wouldn't be unfeasible under the same circumstances (and even if it's mentioned in a lot of places, if we miss a page when altering it, anyone who comes across it can fix it - this isn't a one-person project or anything!). That said, we don't know what Deoxys IS considered right now, so I would be okay with holding off on changing it until we do. We should just definitely fix it as soon as we do know. XD [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 19:35, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
:::It seems you've assumed that Deoxys is no longer even a "Legendary", in addition to not being Mythical either. It seems to me pretty intuitive that Deoxys must be Legendary or Mythical (and definitely not neither), but in the meantime, Deoxys's [http://www.pokemonrubysapphire.com/en-us/pokemon/legendary-pokemon/deoxys inclusion] under the Legendary Pokemon section of the official ORAS site should be proof enough that it is at least Legendary. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:16, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
::::"Intuitive" is not the same as "fact," and, in fact, we even have a word. "counterintuitive," to illustrate the possibility of that difference. Assuming based on logic that Deoxys is Legendary is speculation, which, as far as I'm aware, isn't allowed here. [[Talk:Legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon/Archive2|This discussion]] shows that the Japanese site explicitly lists Deoxys as "other" and refers to it as neither Legendary nor Mythical. The "Legendary" Pokémon list is already wrong, with [http://www.pokemonrubysapphire.com/en-us/pokemon/legendary-pokemon/more-legendary-pokemon-appearing-in-mirage-spots this page] pointing out that all Legendary Pokémon can be obtained in-game, on the same site that has a page ''in the Legendary Pokémon section'' on the Mythical Pokémon Keldeo and Shaymin. I would personally say that what they actually say about it should take precedence over where they put it on the site. That said, I'm happy to discuss further, since there is conflicting information, as you have pointed out, and a lot of it is up in the air. (I wonder if Deoxys is going to become the new Phione in regards to debate. XD) [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 04:24, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::I would say, though, that if it flies so in the face of logic, you need pretty strong evidence to say something like Deoxys is neither Legendary nor Mythical (preferably more than just one little thing). As it happens, though, you have perhaps made a bad assumption about [[Talk:Legendary Pokémon/Archive2#Proposed split|SnorlaxMonster's comment]]. While it is true that [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/oras/pokemon/ the Japanese ORAS site] has a section for "Legendardy Pokemon" (伝説のポケモン), the fact that Deoxys is located under "Other" (その他) very much does not mean that Deoxys is neither Legendary nor Mythical, not when Mythical (幻の) is mentioned nowhere. I believe SnorlaxMonster in fact meant to say that since it's not listed under Legendary, they must consider Deoxys Mythical. In fact, if you look at that page now, you will see that Hoopa is also listed with Deoxys under "Other", so either they consider both of them Mythical or, as you assume, neither Mythical nor Legendary...despite the fact that Hoopa fits the supposed definition of Mythical to a tee. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:12, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::I might be able to help with what I meant by my own comment. I wasn't trying to say that because Deoxys is intentionally not listed as a Legendary Pokémon that it is necessarily a Mythical Pokémon; I was simply saying that it heavily indicated that Deoxys is not a Legendary Pokémon. To my knowledge, no official material has referred to Deoxys as Mythical since the release of ORAS, but we also do not have any evidence that it has had its Mythical status revoked, so we should continue to list it as such. I didn't notice Hoopa was listed in the "Other" section too, but that certainly is interesting; however, the section is merely "Other", so it simply means that they do not fit into the other sections on the page, not that they are both Mythical or both not Mythical. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:24, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::::This [https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/GYRH6RJ survey] strongly implies Deoxys is not a Mythical Pokémon. The question says "Which of these are your favorite Mythical Pokémon? (Choose your top 3.)", and includes every Mythical Pokémon, but not Phione or Deoxys.--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:20, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::::Just to state it plainly, it is still possible Deoxys is Legendary even though it does not appear anywhere else in the survey either, since there are other reliably "Legendary" Pokemon also missing (Mewtwo, Heatran, Kyurem, and Zygarde). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:49, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh, I completely did misunderstand that comment. I'm sorry. >.< I genuinely thought it said Deoxys was neither Mythical nor Legendary; it wasn't so much an assumption as completely misreading. XD That said, shouldn't that site saying it's not Legendary (even if it doesn't mention being Mythical) and the aforementioned PokéScrap site saying it's not Mythical count as proof, even if they were separate? The PokéScrap site IS proof that the Mythical status was revoked, because it specifically says ALL Mythical Pokémon are unavailable, and Deoxys was available. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 20:42, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::It's not proof Deoxys is neither. For my money, the Pokemon Company(/whatever) just doesn't really have its mind made up or doesn't want to make up/make known its mind on Deoxys's status, and/or there may also be some disconnect between English and Japanese branches or something. They need to paint a consistent and/or unambiguous picture, and until they do, IMO we need to avoid drawing conclusions from little, inconclusive hints. (And in the meantime, we should either consider Deoxys to provisionally have its previous status or to at least have the status that it logically deserves.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:07, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::::Just checked the survey you cited. It asked to pick your favorite Mythical Pokémon, and ALL Mythical Pokémon were listed. However, the Legendary Pokémon section was specifically for grouped Legendary Pokémon - it specifically says "pick your favorite pair" and "pick your favorite grouping." It never says that's every Legendary, and, in fact, it clearly says it's only counting ones that are pairs or groups. As such, the survey is reliable (although it doesn't prove Deoxys isn't Legendary - just that it's not Mythical). In contrast, it did say it was listing every Mythical Pokémon, so Deoxys (and, unrelatedly, Phione) are not counted. Can you provide any proof that it IS Mythical? Because right now, that's what we're calling it, yet even your own argument points only towards it either being Legendary if it is either, and its placement in "other" indicates that it's not Legendary. Please stop saying it ''deserves'' the status and therefore speculatively claiming it is "logically" Mythical. Speculation isn't permitted in the mainspace as far as I am aware.
:::::::::::I'm also aware it being "other" and not Legendary and it being available and not Mythical aren't conclusive individually. That's why I gave them both. Together, they DO prove that it is neither, because each proves that it can't be one of the two.
:::::::::::Also, they do seem to have made up their minds. I'm pretty sure you're just looking for an excuse to call it Mythical when it clearly isn't any more. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 22:25, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::::I never said that logically it is Mythical. I tried to say that it is not really logical that Deoxys would be classified as neither Legendary nor Mythical. (And beyond that, I don't really care which way Deoxys is classified, but there should be good proof behind whatever decision gets made.)
::::::::::::And that's the difference between you and I. You don't want to assume anything like that, and I think it is the height of folly to presume Deoxys wouldn't be counted either Legendary or Mythical. So when you see one place that implies Deoxys isn't Mythical and one that implies Deoxys isn't Legendary, you say, then it must be neither. Meanwhile, I see the same thing and just see contradicting implications and think everyone's not on the same page who should be (if they even know which page they want to be on, that is). And since all we have are implications, neither of us ''actually'' has anything approaching proof that Deoxys is X or Y or none of the above. For both of us, it makes sense, and there's ''nothing'' starkly clear enough to decide for us who is right.
::::::::::::That's why I said we need a clear statement from an official source. Until then, all our arguing about our interpretations of measly hints will get us precisely nowhere. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:21, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::::Addendum: we've also forgotten the official ORAS English site I mentioned above. On the one hand, we have the [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/oras/pokemon/ official Japanese site] that has a section for "Legendaries" but elects to include Deoxys under "Other" (implying Deoxys is not "Legendary"), while on the other, we have the [http://www.pokemonrubysapphire.com/en-us/pokemon/legendary-pokemon/deoxys official English site] where Deoxys is included in the Legendary Pokemon section. If that's not a strong indication that someones ''somewhere'' are not on the same page, about ''one thing'' or another, I don't know what is. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:31, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::::::The Japanese information is not contradictory. If we're explicitly told that it's not Legendary and then explicitly told that it's not Mythical, that doesn't mean "one of them must be wrong," which is ''speculation,'' but that, ''given what we have,'' it is not Legendary or Mythical.
:::::::::::::The English site's categorization can't be taken into account because it is already wrong (as I explained, Keldeo and Shaymin prove that it's already not accurate considering other statements ''also on the English site''), but that's the only one we can prove is wrong. There is, therefore, not ''hinting'' but ''confirmation'' from the only sources we can't prove are wrong, that Deoxys is neither, and only information from a source I ''have'' proven is wrong to indicate that it might be one of them.
:::::::::::::Even so, since, clearly, it IS still debatable, I would honestly suggest doing it like Phione, because the situation is exactly the same, with official sources seemingly contradicting one another; we could list points like "it used to be Mythical and no Pokémon has been demoted before," "even if it is no longer event-only, it should transition to Legendary instead of being normal" and "the English site lists it as Legendary" and whatever else you can think of for pro-Legendary or Mythical status and "the Japanese site has stated in an Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire promotion that only event-only Pokémon are Mythical, a requirement which Deoxys no longer meets," "the Japanese site has listed it as non-Legendary, indicating that it is neither Mythical nor Legendary," and "the reliability of its placement on the English site is questionable due to the already-contradictory information in it, with Shaymin and Keldeo being classified as Legendary despite another statement on the site claiming that all Legendary Pokémon are obtainable in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire" for against. This would be completely true - it IS under debate - and it's the only way to accurately represent both sides in the article. Sound like an adequate compromise? [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 02:54, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
{{indent}}I think you're being needlessly uptight about [http://www.pokemonrubysapphire.com/en-gb/pokemon/legendary-pokemon/change-two-mythical-pokemon Keldeo/Shaymin] and the statement that "all Legendary Pokémon can be obtained in-game". (I say this realizing that the same could perhaps be said about my conviction that Deoxys must be either Legendary or Mythical. =P ) There are reasonable explanations why they're included in the Legendary Pokemon section. They could easily consider Mythical and Legendary Pokemon similar enough, and/or consider it too much of a hassle to make a whole separate Mythical section, that including them under Legendary is good enough for ''most'' users (perhaps not for at least one, plainly =P ). In any case, the Legendary section is still plainly the section for Legendary or Mythical Pokemon. You're taking it too far when you try to dismiss it entirely as ''any'' sort of evidence about Deoxys' status.

"One source must be wrong" is no more speculation than "Deoxys is neither Legendary nor Mythical". Both fly in the face of plain facts (plain "statements" by different sources vs all of Deoxys's Legendary- or Mythical-like characteristics). They are in fact both reasonable conclusions, that simply differ as a result of placing different value on different pieces of evidence.

I am loath to say Deoxys should be treated anything like Phione. (But I wouldn't stop it if people think it should be.) Someone else can comment on that. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:01, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
:If I would say, I'd say that make a conclusion based on 2 sources with different languages (wait, is the survey available in other language, too?) is not what we should always do, because of the localization or something (I don't know why, but the survey even says Dialga, Palkia and Giratina ''are'' a pair).

:About the Shaymin/Keldeo page, it clearly says "Change Two Mythical Pokémon!" and "The Mythical Pokémon Shaymin and Keldeo can change their appearance...", so I agree that it weird when you said about all Legendary can be obtain in ORAS (also, "between XY and ORAS", not "in ORAS"). And after all, maybe it's not so unreliable like you said, maybe it just whoever at TPC categorize the site thinks that "Mythical" is a subset category of "Legendary" (like what I always thought before last week).

:And about treating Deoxys like Phione, I think we should just write the debates in the trivia sections (at both this page and {{p|Deoxys|Deoxys's page}}) as normal. I think it's not worth making things as serious as Phione. We should ask more people about this. --[[User:Yen01|Yen01]] ([[User talk:Yen01|talk]]) 04:56, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
::If other Pokémon that we know aren't Legendary are in the section, it ''can't'' be used as evidence that something else in it is Legendary, regardless of what you speculate they may have been thinking - they made an error in a nearly identical situation, and without verification, we can't be sure that Deoxys' placement isn't another, and we certainly can't use it as proof of anything. I'm not being "uptight" about it; it's an error and the source can't be used for proof if it contains other false information. We can put a trivia point saying "Deoxys was called Legendary on the ORAS website" like how we mention the '''errors''' in spelling Jessie's name by different sources. That said, again, it ''is'' debated, with conflicting official sources. Which really is the same as Phione, minus the fact that Deoxys has ''fan-designated'' traits associated with Legendary Pokémon and Phione has ''fan-designated'' traits associated with non-Mythical Pokémon. Deoxys' status is debated and there is conflict between official sources. You've said so yourself. Phione's status is also debated and there is conflict between official sources. ''Why'' is Deoxys' situation different from Phione's and ''why'' should they be treated differently?
::Yen01, I did mean between XY and ORAS. Didn't realize I only mentioned ORAS in that retelling of the information. Sorry! Also, I'm not using sources from different languages. Both of the sources ''I'' presented were Japanese; other people were bringing up the survey and the English site, but I've been using a consistent language when bringing up new points, and going only by the sources from one language, I have explained why Deoxys is not Legendary and not Mythical. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 05:20, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Don't try to downplay the commonalities among Legendary and/or Mythical Pokemon by calling them "fan-designated". They are not, as that implies, ''made up'' by fans. It doesn't matter if no official source has explicitly defined those characteristics in writing; they don't need to. They have manifestly created those "Legendary" and "Mythical" Pokemon and/or the games such that those Pokemon have common characteristics that are readily identifiable by anyone moderately familiar with the games. That is not "fan-designated", that's just being observant. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:32, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
::::All pseudo-Legendaries were dual-typed and that was considered not only an observation, but a rule. Then Goodra came. Pseudo-Legendary is referred to not only as a fan term but a flexible one despite being a pattern of Pokémon specifically designed to have common characteristics readily identifiable by most fans. "Being observant" and using basic logic to solve something like this ''is'' speculation and assumption, which, no matter how obvious it is, can't be put on Bulbapedia. This is a site that still doesn't consider Zygarde a member of the Mortality Trio because it's not confirmed. Deoxys' status as Legendary or Mythical is, as of ORAS, just as inconclusive as Phione's, and no amount of ''your opinion'' on what makes a Pokémon "deserve" the status can change that. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 06:56, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::I think the English site including Deoxys and Mythical Pokémon under "Legendary Pokémon" can just be marked down to an error; we have ample evidence that Legendary and Mythical Pokémon are mutually-exclusive groups from both English and Japanese sources.
:::::"pseudo-Legendary" is a fan term to describe a pattern in Pokémon. I had always argued that "dual-typed" was merely a coincidence and not a critical part of the pattern. Regardless, they were never officially defined as a group, so their parameters were always fan-designated, whereas "Mythical Pokémon" has been officially defined. The two are not comparable.
:::::I think it's entirely reasonable to handle Deoxys like Phione at present. Both are permitted in the upcoming "Circle of Legends" tournament, which only permits Legendary and Mythical Pokémon, despite us having conflicting evidence about their status as Mythical Pokémon. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:03, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::You are as wrong as it is possible to be that I am speculating, EpicDeino. I am indeed assuming, but so are you and so is anyone who won't just shrug and say "I don't know". Lacking an explicit and unambiguous statement one way or another, that's all it is ''possible'' to do, in the end; look at all your evidence, weigh it, and draw your own, personal conclusion/opinion. You're no more special than I in that regard. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 09:06, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::::Snorlax, I meant in regards to Legendary Pokémon. I know Mythical has fixed criteria. Sorry; it wasn't clear in that post, but when I said "fan-designated traits associated with non-Mythical Pokémon," I meant things like breedability that ''weren't'' official criteria and people were just assuming. I have mentioned the official distinction between Mythical and normal previously, and was trying (albeit very vaguely) to illustrate the point that any requirements that ''are'' fan-designated (that is, anything else) aren't actually relevant.
:::::::I am also aware that pseudo-Legendary is a fan group, and I was comparing the fact that fans claim ''that'' pattern is deliberate on Game Freak's part and entirely consistent to the fact that they also claim that the traits shared by Legendary Pokémon (which are, unlike Mythical Pokémon, really ''only'' bound by official statement of their status - there is no official statement of the traits that "make" a Legendary) are deliberate on Game Freak's part and entirely consistent, the latter of which was being used to say that Deoxys "deserved" the status more than Phione and being used as an argument against treating them similarly.
:::::::Tiddlywinks, may I ask why you claim I'm acting as if ''I'm'' "special?" You have cited fan-designated "rules" for Legendaries - and I've explained why fan-designated "rules" have changed in the past for other patterns that fans picked up on by being "observant" - and said "it deserves the status" and that it seems "intuitive" that it would be one of them, both of which are blatantly opinionated, along with citing exactly one source. You've also repeatedly disregarded the statements that I've made, saying that they are "contradictory" when they go hand in hand with one another and are from a consistent and accurate source, and that they prove ''nothing'' simply because they prove the two halves of the point separately rather than simultaneously... which means absolutely nothing about their validity. You've also said I'm being "needlessly uptight" about a factual error that conclusively proves a source's unreliability, then provided yet more speculation in the form of ''your idea of why the error might have happened,'' as if that makes it any less of an error. Common mistake ≠ not a mistake. Understandable mistake ≠ not a mistake. In contrast to all of your speculation, assumptions and allegedly "logical" statements that ''contradict'' facts, I've exclusively cited actual evidence and used ''no'' opinionated statements as reasoning, and I have proven - repeatedly - that the only source of ''real evidence'' you have brought up is unreliable. Despite this, I'm ''still'' trying to settle for the lesser option of acknowledging the debate on the page and treating it like Phione ''instead of'' trying to press my own stance, which seems to be what the majority of official evidence points towards, and having the page flat-out state that it's not Legendary or Mythical as I originally desired. There is still ''no proof'' that it is Legendary or Mythical, except for ''one'' categorization in a list that is ''already'' erroneous and therefore unreliable, while there is conclusive proof from a separate source that does ''not'' actively contradict itself. I still fail to see why you think your argument holds as much weight as mine, let alone that I must see myself as "special" - a case of ''ad hominem'' that has nothing to do with the argument, which is often frowned upon in the average debate almost as much as saying that the fact that it's not Legendary and the fact that it's not Mythical don't prove that it isn't Legendary or Mythical (how can something not be Legendary or Mythical, but... still be one of those things?) - for not being totally sold on the opinions, factually invalid "logic," patterns and invalid sources you've used to present your case. Just saying. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 10:46, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::::You're misunderstanding me greatly if you think I want to treat Deoxys unfairly. I never said that Doexys and Phione should not be treated similarly. I only said that I am (very much personally/selfishly) loath to ''endorse'' treating Deoxys like Phione. I very explicitly meant to leave open the possibility that it was/is the right thing to do; however, *I* simply did not want to be the one to validate that. The sole reason for that sentiment is that I would ''much'' rather have a solid answer than endorse another "Well, gee, we're not really sure, so let us show you a bunch of bits and pieces of info, and just have a think on it yourself..." in the mainspace. But, as I said, if it ''is'' the right thing to do, then I have ''no intention'' of gainsaying that; of ''insisting'' that Deoxys be treated "unfairly".
::::::::My quandry comes down to this... I don't think it should be radical to say that it would be a ''drastic'' action to officially strip a Legendary or Mythical Pokemon of those titles. (I really don't care if you think this is "just" opinion.) Given that, I think it is unconscionable to claim that this is what happened without a very explicit and unambiguous statement that that is exactly the case. We do not have that.
::::::::There did used to be a [[Pokémon.com#Mailbag|Mailbag]]. Is there no way to ask someone officially now whether Deoxys is officially a Legendary, or a Mythical, or perhaps neither?
::::::::Also, FWIW, "You're no more special than I", i.e., "You and I are basically ''equals''" is not ad hominem. I just wrote it that way for a bit of (I feel) poetic flair or something. I think if you read it consistently with my statement there, it ''should'' come off as just saying "Hey, we both have opinions, and it's natural for you to think you're right, but please don't try to say I'm being wildly unreasonable (i.e., speculating)." I don't care if you think I am unreasonable (i.e., reasoning wrong), because I certainly think you are in places, but I think that to label my reasoning speculation is, itself, unreasonable. =P
::::::::(I could also try to state more clearly now why I'm reasonable—to answer your questions above of why I'm seeming to be "illogical"—but I really don't like long talk page posts and it really isn't sounding like I'm going to convince you of the merits of my arguments, or even that my logic ''is'' "logical" and not ''just'' opinion or speculation, so I kind of think it's pointless.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:11, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::::Oh yeah, as SnorlaxMonster mentioned above: "Both [Deoxys and Phione] are permitted in the upcoming "Circle of Legends" tournament, which only permits Legendary and Mythical Pokémon". Is that good enough for you? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:27, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::"Phione is a usable Pokémon in the recently announced Rotation Battle tournament Circle of Legends where only Legendary and Mythical Pokémon are allowed." That's already mentioned on Phione's page - in the "evidence for" section, which, along with the "evidence against" section, ''still exists'' in Trivia in spite of this evidence. Bulbapedia has clearly deemed it insufficient proof for Phione, so it's insufficient proof for Deoxys. The "other" section of Phione's page also points out "Originally, Phione was not needed in order to complete the National Pokédex, as with other Mythical Pokémon. However, beginning with Pokémon X and Y, it is needed to qualify for the diploma." This is the same as Deoxys. It also mentions the mailbag, which not only changed its answer and therefore wasn't even included to favor a specific side, but nothing like which currently exists as far as I know. Not an option right now. From the survey and the Pokédex, we know it's not Mythical, so that just leaves the dispute between Legendary and neither. You've cited the Circle of Legends tournament - which is still being listed on the page ''as part of the dispute'' and not conclusive evidence in Phione's case - against the Japanese official site - which has not been proven unreliable, either, and should be considered equal. Two conflicting sources. Notice, also, that most of Phione's evidence is from different games. Deoxys has only had one game since the conflict started, so it makes sense that there would be less evidence, but an official source outside of games (the guide in Phione's case and the Japanese site in Deoxys') and the Circle of Legends tournament (for both) contradict each other in the same way. So, Deoxys is not Mythical - we even have ''in-game'' proof - and we have conflicting evidence from official sources that contradict each other on whether or not they were Legendary. Still in the same scenario as Phione. If you don't want to "be the one to endorse" that they should be treated the same, why? There's equal evidence for both sides. The scenario is the same - you're just saying that ''you personally don't want them to be treated the same'' regardless, simply because you'd rather have a clear official statement - which we don't have right now and can't get. When and if we get official confirmation of exactly what Deoxys is, we can change the page to say so. But Phione hasn't gotten that after eight years of being around, so that's utterly absurd - we cannot wait until ''something that may never happen'' before we address the fact that a Pokémon now listed as Mythical is NOT Mythical (that much, at least, hasn't been argued against once in this entire debate, and ''that'' is what the page currently '''falsely''' states), is either Legendary or normal and that there ''is'' conflicting evidence between official sources as to which of the two possibilities it is. ''This is no different from Phione.'' And while Deoxys may have less evidence, it has less ''for both sides,'' because the dispute hasn't existed for as long.
:::::::::Side note: Yes, "you're no more special than I" does mean "you and I are equals." It also, unlike the presented alternative, contains many implications that are not only rude but, in this scenario, false (unless you care to explain why they're true, which the bottom of your post suggests you don't plan on doing) - "you're no more special than I" clearly states that the other person ''thinks'' he or she ''is'' more special carries the implication that they're acting in a biased (which more accurately describes some of ''your'' arguments, such as "it deserves the status"), entitled, or otherwise narcissistic or selfish manner. They have the same meaning, but "you're no more special than I" has much harsher (and, yes, insulting) connotations. It's not "poetic;" it's rude.
:::::::::Last thing: how is it unreasonable for me to call your speculation what it is? I'll gladly admit I'm wrong ''if you explain why I am.''
:::::::::There's no valid reason not to simply treat it like Phione when the only proof you have is ''shared by Phione'' and the alternative you've requested ''isn't possible right now.'' [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 22:57, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::You are having considerable trouble understanding me, when I thought I was being very clear. Read this and take it to heart, please: I am NOT trying to push that Deoxys should not be treated like Phione. I do not claim that there is conclusive evidence of anything for Deoxys. Please stop writing as if I am. I will ignore anything else from you for now until I believe you understand me on this. Thank you. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:06, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::::You explicitly stated that despite not being against the idea, you refused to endorse it ''in favor of waiting for an official statement.'' I explained in my post why that's probably not an option.
:::::::::::Second, "Oh yeah, as SnorlaxMonster mentioned above: "Both [Deoxys and Phione] are permitted in the upcoming "Circle of Legends" tournament, which only permits Legendary and Mythical Pokémon". '''Is that good enough for you?'''" Considering that this was in the same post that you said you wanted to deal with the issue when we got an official statement, this sounded an awful lot like an attempt at proving it was conclusively Legendary, particularly the last sentence. I only reacted to exactly what you said here.
:::::::::::Third, you're now using "I'm going to ignore you" as a way to avoid the other part of my post: you still haven't explained how the majority of your argument was anything but speculation, with your statements of "it deserves it," "it has common traits of Legendaries" and the like being absolutely opinionated and your previous insistence that people weren't on the same page and the evidence I presented was void when two pieces of evidence that ''didn't'' contradict one another supported the opposite side simply because ''you thought it must be an error for Deoxys not to be Legendary or Mythical'' after defending a source I criticized for already being wrong about something. You can't say I'm the one being biased and acting entitled or "special" when you have previously - in this same debate - tried to ignore perfectly valid evidence because it contradicted ''what you wanted at that point in the argument''. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 03:10, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::::1)You seem to believe here that it is critical that you convince me of this, as if I am somehow stopping you or anyone else. Let me repeat myself: I take no part in that decision, in any way. (If you think I have, you mistake me.) Decide it with others (or yourself).
::::::::::::2) I'm sorry if it sounded like I thought it was a conclusive, official statement. That's not really the case. What I meant was, you had denounced the other things I had attempted to give you as valid evidence that Deoxys was Legendary or Mythical (either you think I'm speculating or you think it's unreliable); so, would you consider the tournament a valid piece of evidence that Deoxys is Legendary or Mythical? (I don't ask you to be convinced that Deoxys is Legendary or Mythical. I'm only asking that you recognize it as validly contradicting the conclusion you've held so far (when you've so far claimed that nothing I've brought up can), that Deoxys is neither Legendary nor Mythical; a smidgen of reasonable doubt, in short.)
::::::::::::3) Understand that "It has common traits of Legendaries" (Deoxys and indisputably Legendary Pokemon share certain traits that other Pokemon (not counting Mythicals) do not have) is not opinion, it is fact. What you mean is, you do not accept that there are any traits (short of officially being given the title) that define a Legendary Pokemon. Which is fine. But it does not mean Deoxys does not have those traits. Those commonalities cannot be wished away; the only point where you have choice (opinion) is in the conclusion you make from them. (FWIW, you also throw out a quote of me of "It deserves it" like it's something separate, but that's actually squarely based on Deoxys' Legendary traits. ...The rest, I can't really bring anything new to. I have explained and you've rejected; I'm comfortable with it being a simple difference of opinion.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:19, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
(Resetting indent.)
1) Okay. I just figured I might as well explain it anyway, since the purpose of this discussion is to get a consensus and you said you would prefer an official statement even though that's not an option.
2) Ah, sorry for misunderstanding. Then yes, that is a valid point that should definitely be brought up somewhere (after all, it is with Phione).
3) My dispute with that quote was more or less that I interpreted what you were saying as making it off as some kind of "rule" when other patterns that fans claimed were deliberate and consistent later changed.
But considering your last post, I do understand your stance and... basically don't think there's anything to argue with you about any more? I apologize for misunderstanding some of your statements and probably coming off as rude in how I reacted to them (especially given that I was wrong in the first place). Thank you for the clarification! [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 05:36, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
:You're welcome. =) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:05, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
::I'm adding a little thing to this discussion: ORAS take place in another dimension/universe/whatever, right? Well, in that dimension Deoxys is Legendary, while in the previous one it's Mythical. This is only a possible explanation of the vague classification we have now from Game Freak/TPC, it should by no means be included in any page, but I thought it could be interesting to add to your conversation. In this way, there is no "change of classification" from Mythical to Legendary (or "other"): it simply is another world with its own classification. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 22:25, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

== More? ==
Is there some logic that with some legendary pokemon there are more than one in anime(for example: Latios, Lugia), and with some only one (Mew, Tornados)? [[User:Lokki|Lokki]] ([[User talk:Lokki|talk]]), 19:38, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

:No legendary is unique. Think about it. If it were unique, if one dies, the species goes extinct. That should have happened a long time ago if they were unique. We haven't seen ALL of Dialga's or Palkia's dimensions, either. Same goes for Giratina and Arceus. We have only seen small sections of them. For all we know, these dimensions could have thousands or even MILLIONS of their respective species. And of course, there are multiple Mews: One flies throughout the world, while another is at the Tree of Beginning. For Mewtwo, both fly around the world. One has a more woman-like voice, and that one can Mega Evolve. I could go on all day, naming all the legendaries and saying why we know there is multiple, but I'm getting bored of typing this. [[User:TheRealArceus|TheRealArceus]] ([[User talk:TheRealArceus|talk]]) 16:47, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
::This discussion is more suited for the forums, so please take it over there.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 23:26, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Legendary Pokémon/Archive3

2015-07-14T22:26:53Z

Shepeedy: /* Deoxys */

[[Talk:Legendary Pokémon/Archive1|Archive #1]] 
[[Talk:Legendary Pokémon/Archive2|Archive #2]]

== Separating Mythical and Legendary Pokémon ==

The matter of separating the articles of Legendary and Mythical Pokémon is in discussion because of Generation VI's newly introduced disambiguation of the term ''Mythical Pokémon''. I have started a [[User:Ash Pokemaster/Mythical Pokémon|short draft]] that anyone should feel free to expand. Meanwhile, in response to [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) [[Talk:Legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon/Archive2#Separation|15:18, 5 May 2015 (UTC)]]:
:A better phrasing might be "a related group of Pokémon related to Legendary Pokémon", but I'm being conservative for the time being. I haven't found evidence supporting that ''Mythical Pokémon'' are indeed ''Legendary'' (as far as Japanese media are concerned), and the fact that [http://www.pokemonconquest.com/en-us/outline/densetsu recent] text refers to all of them collectively as "Legendary and Mythical Pokémon" makes me think they aren't. Mythical Pokémon as an English term may be relatively recent, but 幻のポケモン has always been a thing -- it has been in use on and off since 1998 (potentially even earlier, in Mew ads from 1996). It started catching on (that is to say, being used more commonly) around [http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/history/ 2007] or 2008. Prior to that, reference to Mythical Pokémon has been generally informal, with several other terms like [https://web.archive.org/web/20040404003246/http://www.pokemon.co.jp/game/deoxys/index.html 特別なポケモン] (''Tokubetsuna Pokémon'', probably a parallel to ''Event Pokémon'') seen in official media. Ever since Gen 5, it has been in use unambiguously. You can even find a formal definition of 幻のポケモン in Pokescrap's [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/pokescrap2014/pokemon/ page].

:As of today (arguably since [[Talk:Legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon/Archive2#Mythical_and_Legendary_classification_with_sources|Gen 5]]) the same holds for ''Mythical'', as there is no reference of Mythical Pokémon being Legendary anywhere, as far as I know. Even cases like Deoxys, where 幻のポケモン was originally mistranslated as ''Legendary Pokémon'', are now properly classified. The assumption that Mythical Pokémon are Legendary is natural, and the western community especially is accustomed to the convention for most of the franchise's life, with the proper term coined years after its Japanese counterpart (granted, the term ''Rare Pokémon'' was once being used in places like Pokémon Ranger and [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pokemon.com_officially_reveals_Shaymin announcements]), but I have to ask: what's the point of including Mythical Pokémon in the Legendary Pokémon page when they aren't officially referred to as ''Legendary Pokémon''? Saving clicks? Is an encyclopedia's mission to pander to the community's fondness of obsolete terminology, or is it to be accurate and in-line with the series' current conventions and lore? [[User:Ash Pokemaster|Ash Pokemaster]] ([[User talk:Ash Pokemaster|talk]]) 17:41, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
::Bulbapedia's mission is not necessarily to be official, it's to be an informative English-language Pokémon encyclopedia, which happens to be a mission that involves official sources. Since we're just going in circles ''again'', let me just point out that when the community searches for "Legendary Pokémon", they expect to find info on Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, et cetera in addition to those normally obtainable within their debut generation. Splitting the page would also have the effect of splitting Mew and Keldeo from their respective legendary "families", to the detriment of the wiki. In addition, my position since the start of English-language Gen V has been that mythicals are a subset of legendaries, and as I pointed out last time we talked about this, North American ''Super Smash Bros. for Wii U'' backs me up, while you have not cited an English-language source in your argument. [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 06:50, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
:::I suppose that we principally disagree on whether Bulbapedia's coverage should be based strictly on canonical sources (which exclude contradicting English-language sources which commonly include mistranslations, although this may also be a matter of argument) or be more in-line with fans' expectations. I will admit I have no source that downright states "Mythical Pokémon are not a subset of Legendary Pokémon", but what's the point of the "Legendary and Mythical Pokémon" statement if the latter aren't a separate group? It would be a redundancy. Your NA Smash Bros. argument only augments my point, if only because the difference between the European and the NA version simply proves that there's an existing ambiguity that the more careful sources (ie. the ones that don't spell Onix as "Onyx") take under consideration. Besides, why should it be taken under consideration over the European translation? What makes it inherently more valid?
:::I will agree that this is most likely going to go in circles. It would be better to let other people weigh in. --[[User:Ash Pokemaster|Ash Pokemaster]] ([[User talk:Ash Pokemaster|talk]]) 07:37, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
::::People expecting to find Mythical Pokémon when coming to this page can be solved with a hatnote and in-article prose. However, we should be using official definitions whereever possible. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:38, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
::SnorlaxMonster and Ash Pokemaster, I get what you're implying, and I see your reasoning, but do you actually have a source that ''directly'' states mythicals are not legendaries? [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 11:37, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
:::Yes, there is an official source that explicitly shows they're separate groups that don't overlap: Corocoro. In either October or November 2014 - can't remember which - Corocoro promised that '''every''' Legendary Pokémon would be available for capture in ORAS. Come the games' release, we saw that this didn't include Mythical Pokémon. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 23:41, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
::::Corocoro is a Japanese source, and the debate is over the English terminology. However, both the US and UK official ORAS sites made the same claim, albeit with different wording, stating that "between XYORAS, all Legendary Pokémon will be ''obtainable''". [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 07:57, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
:::::No, the debate is ''not'' on the English terminology, but on the ''group to which it refers.'' They're still called Legendary and Mythical whether Bulbapedia says Mythical is a subset or a separate group. In fact, ''the page has actually called Mythical by the same name under both circumstances in the past.'' that ''isn't'' being debated right now. What is being debated is whether Mythical Pokémon, [http://www.pokepedia.fr/Pokémon_fabuleux a group which exists in other languages as well and is NOT exclusive to the English language], is separate from Legendary. This has absolutely nothing to do with the name of the group when the group itself is the same in the other languages - the idea of things having different names in different languages applies to basically everything else in Pokémon as well, and doesn't prevent foreign language sources from being used as evidence when the subject itself remains identical. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 03:41, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
::::::The debate is on the group to which it refers ''in English'', so this is indeed over English terminology. [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 11:28, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
:::::::Sorry, but... I don't understand what you mean? As I JUST explained, the group exists in every language. The group, which is consistent throughout every language, is ''referred to in English'' as Mythical, but ''still exists, albeit by various other names,'' in other languages - like ''everything else in the series,'' actually. I even provided a link to the French encyclopædia Pokémonis as proof of the group's existence in other languages. The name has absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about. By your logic, no Japanese source could be used for anything that has a different name in English. To reiterate from my previous post: '''we aren't debating the name of the group.''' We're debating whether or not said group, ''which exists in every language,'' albeit with a different name ''because it is translated like everything else in the series,'' is separate from Legendary, another group ''which exists in every language,'' again with different names ''because it is translated like everything else in the series.'' Please, explain ''why'' having a different name would prevent a group that is otherwise ''completely consistent between languages'' from being considered the same thing when everything else in the series is in the same situation. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 18:37, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

==Mythical Pokémon = Events?==

I know for a fact that the only difference I have found from Legendary and Mythical Pokémon is that most Mythical Pokémon are usually event exclusive with even stats all over (most of the time) and that Legendary Pokémon are usually found towards the ends of games and commonly have higher stats than Mythical Pokémon (not counting Mega Diancie). [[User:BowserBrowser|BowserBrowser]] ([[User talk:BowserBrowser|talk]]) 10:29, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
:It's actually even simpler than that. Legendaries are available in-game. Mythical are unavailable in-game. Nothing else you mentioned is related. It has nothing to do with high stats versus low, or being near the end of the game, or "usually" being event-exclusive (even Deoxys, formerly Mythical, has been listed as "other" in the Japanese promotional material and simply hasn't been referenced as either Legendary ''or'' Mythical in English promotions since ORAS made it available as far as I know - being event-only is not "usually" a trait shared, but ''always'' the case), or whether stats are balanced or specialized. There is a clear-cut distinction between them. (Also, just as a side note, the definition was already on the article before you said this, so I'm not really sure what your point was? XD) [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 23:41, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

==Deoxys==
To avoid edit warring, I'm not changing the page right now (I already had changed Deoxys to say it isn't Mythical and that was reverted, so I'm pretty sure doing so again wouldn't be allowed), but I just wanted to explain the argument against Deoxys being Mythical.
In the Pokémon Scrap event, where you had to collect those clippings to earn Shaymin, Keldeo and Victini, the page on the official site explicitly stated something along the lines of "Shaymin, Keldeo and Victini, '''like other Mythical Pokémon,''' cannot be normally obtained in Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire." This is an official statement that Mythical does '''always''' mean event-only, so Deoxys isn't an exception - it's just not Mythical '''any more.''' It was before, but it has officially lost the status. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 23:41, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
:I hadn't noticed this ambiguity until now. You're quite right, it wasn't referred to as a Mythical Pokémon during the ORAS promotion. Granted, it isn't referred to as a Legendary either -- just "Pokémon Deoxys". I think it ought to be classified as a Mythical for the time being, if only because otherwise we might end up revisioning multiple Pokémon way too often (for all we know special "Episodes" that feature Mythical Pokémon might become a regular thing). However, a footnote for its special status is definitely needed, and we have to revisit its situation by the time the ORAS era is over and a new Deoxys event (or game inclusion) makes appearance.

:Which Pokescrap page are you referring to, by the way? The definition used in the (now [http://web.archive.org/web/20141231060449/http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/pokescrap2014/pokemon/ archived]) page simply says that Mythical Pokémon aren't available during normal play of the games. It would be interesting if it was indeed explicitly mentioned somewhere that "no Mythical Pokémon are available in ORAS" as far as Deoxys's status is concerned. --[[User:Ash Pokemaster|Ash Pokemaster]] ([[User talk:Ash Pokemaster|talk]]) 06:25, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
::Ah, sorry; I was actually wrong (I couldn't find the page, so I was going from memory) - it doesn't explicitly state "in ORAS." Still, the promotion was ''for'' ORAS, and Deoxys has not been called Mythical since, so it should still be valid evidence, right?
::Also, I'm not sure it'd be as hard as you say to fix it. I mean, if the official classification changes, we should fix it here, right? We add hundreds of pages whenever a new game comes out, so changing one Pokémon's classification wouldn't be unfeasible under the same circumstances (and even if it's mentioned in a lot of places, if we miss a page when altering it, anyone who comes across it can fix it - this isn't a one-person project or anything!). That said, we don't know what Deoxys IS considered right now, so I would be okay with holding off on changing it until we do. We should just definitely fix it as soon as we do know. XD [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 19:35, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
:::It seems you've assumed that Deoxys is no longer even a "Legendary", in addition to not being Mythical either. It seems to me pretty intuitive that Deoxys must be Legendary or Mythical (and definitely not neither), but in the meantime, Deoxys's [http://www.pokemonrubysapphire.com/en-us/pokemon/legendary-pokemon/deoxys inclusion] under the Legendary Pokemon section of the official ORAS site should be proof enough that it is at least Legendary. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:16, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
::::"Intuitive" is not the same as "fact," and, in fact, we even have a word. "counterintuitive," to illustrate the possibility of that difference. Assuming based on logic that Deoxys is Legendary is speculation, which, as far as I'm aware, isn't allowed here. [[Talk:Legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon/Archive2|This discussion]] shows that the Japanese site explicitly lists Deoxys as "other" and refers to it as neither Legendary nor Mythical. The "Legendary" Pokémon list is already wrong, with [http://www.pokemonrubysapphire.com/en-us/pokemon/legendary-pokemon/more-legendary-pokemon-appearing-in-mirage-spots this page] pointing out that all Legendary Pokémon can be obtained in-game, on the same site that has a page ''in the Legendary Pokémon section'' on the Mythical Pokémon Keldeo and Shaymin. I would personally say that what they actually say about it should take precedence over where they put it on the site. That said, I'm happy to discuss further, since there is conflicting information, as you have pointed out, and a lot of it is up in the air. (I wonder if Deoxys is going to become the new Phione in regards to debate. XD) [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 04:24, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::I would say, though, that if it flies so in the face of logic, you need pretty strong evidence to say something like Deoxys is neither Legendary nor Mythical (preferably more than just one little thing). As it happens, though, you have perhaps made a bad assumption about [[Talk:Legendary Pokémon/Archive2#Proposed split|SnorlaxMonster's comment]]. While it is true that [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/oras/pokemon/ the Japanese ORAS site] has a section for "Legendardy Pokemon" (伝説のポケモン), the fact that Deoxys is located under "Other" (その他) very much does not mean that Deoxys is neither Legendary nor Mythical, not when Mythical (幻の) is mentioned nowhere. I believe SnorlaxMonster in fact meant to say that since it's not listed under Legendary, they must consider Deoxys Mythical. In fact, if you look at that page now, you will see that Hoopa is also listed with Deoxys under "Other", so either they consider both of them Mythical or, as you assume, neither Mythical nor Legendary...despite the fact that Hoopa fits the supposed definition of Mythical to a tee. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:12, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::I might be able to help with what I meant by my own comment. I wasn't trying to say that because Deoxys is intentionally not listed as a Legendary Pokémon that it is necessarily a Mythical Pokémon; I was simply saying that it heavily indicated that Deoxys is not a Legendary Pokémon. To my knowledge, no official material has referred to Deoxys as Mythical since the release of ORAS, but we also do not have any evidence that it has had its Mythical status revoked, so we should continue to list it as such. I didn't notice Hoopa was listed in the "Other" section too, but that certainly is interesting; however, the section is merely "Other", so it simply means that they do not fit into the other sections on the page, not that they are both Mythical or both not Mythical. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:24, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::::This [https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/GYRH6RJ survey] strongly implies Deoxys is not a Mythical Pokémon. The question says "Which of these are your favorite Mythical Pokémon? (Choose your top 3.)", and includes every Mythical Pokémon, but not Phione or Deoxys.--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:20, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::::Just to state it plainly, it is still possible Deoxys is Legendary even though it does not appear anywhere else in the survey either, since there are other reliably "Legendary" Pokemon also missing (Mewtwo, Heatran, Kyurem, and Zygarde). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:49, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh, I completely did misunderstand that comment. I'm sorry. >.< I genuinely thought it said Deoxys was neither Mythical nor Legendary; it wasn't so much an assumption as completely misreading. XD That said, shouldn't that site saying it's not Legendary (even if it doesn't mention being Mythical) and the aforementioned PokéScrap site saying it's not Mythical count as proof, even if they were separate? The PokéScrap site IS proof that the Mythical status was revoked, because it specifically says ALL Mythical Pokémon are unavailable, and Deoxys was available. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 20:42, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::It's not proof Deoxys is neither. For my money, the Pokemon Company(/whatever) just doesn't really have its mind made up or doesn't want to make up/make known its mind on Deoxys's status, and/or there may also be some disconnect between English and Japanese branches or something. They need to paint a consistent and/or unambiguous picture, and until they do, IMO we need to avoid drawing conclusions from little, inconclusive hints. (And in the meantime, we should either consider Deoxys to provisionally have its previous status or to at least have the status that it logically deserves.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:07, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::::Just checked the survey you cited. It asked to pick your favorite Mythical Pokémon, and ALL Mythical Pokémon were listed. However, the Legendary Pokémon section was specifically for grouped Legendary Pokémon - it specifically says "pick your favorite pair" and "pick your favorite grouping." It never says that's every Legendary, and, in fact, it clearly says it's only counting ones that are pairs or groups. As such, the survey is reliable (although it doesn't prove Deoxys isn't Legendary - just that it's not Mythical). In contrast, it did say it was listing every Mythical Pokémon, so Deoxys (and, unrelatedly, Phione) are not counted. Can you provide any proof that it IS Mythical? Because right now, that's what we're calling it, yet even your own argument points only towards it either being Legendary if it is either, and its placement in "other" indicates that it's not Legendary. Please stop saying it ''deserves'' the status and therefore speculatively claiming it is "logically" Mythical. Speculation isn't permitted in the mainspace as far as I am aware.
:::::::::::I'm also aware it being "other" and not Legendary and it being available and not Mythical aren't conclusive individually. That's why I gave them both. Together, they DO prove that it is neither, because each proves that it can't be one of the two.
:::::::::::Also, they do seem to have made up their minds. I'm pretty sure you're just looking for an excuse to call it Mythical when it clearly isn't any more. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 22:25, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::::I never said that logically it is Mythical. I tried to say that it is not really logical that Deoxys would be classified as neither Legendary nor Mythical. (And beyond that, I don't really care which way Deoxys is classified, but there should be good proof behind whatever decision gets made.)
::::::::::::And that's the difference between you and I. You don't want to assume anything like that, and I think it is the height of folly to presume Deoxys wouldn't be counted either Legendary or Mythical. So when you see one place that implies Deoxys isn't Mythical and one that implies Deoxys isn't Legendary, you say, then it must be neither. Meanwhile, I see the same thing and just see contradicting implications and think everyone's not on the same page who should be (if they even know which page they want to be on, that is). And since all we have are implications, neither of us ''actually'' has anything approaching proof that Deoxys is X or Y or none of the above. For both of us, it makes sense, and there's ''nothing'' starkly clear enough to decide for us who is right.
::::::::::::That's why I said we need a clear statement from an official source. Until then, all our arguing about our interpretations of measly hints will get us precisely nowhere. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:21, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::::Addendum: we've also forgotten the official ORAS English site I mentioned above. On the one hand, we have the [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/oras/pokemon/ official Japanese site] that has a section for "Legendaries" but elects to include Deoxys under "Other" (implying Deoxys is not "Legendary"), while on the other, we have the [http://www.pokemonrubysapphire.com/en-us/pokemon/legendary-pokemon/deoxys official English site] where Deoxys is included in the Legendary Pokemon section. If that's not a strong indication that someones ''somewhere'' are not on the same page, about ''one thing'' or another, I don't know what is. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:31, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::::::The Japanese information is not contradictory. If we're explicitly told that it's not Legendary and then explicitly told that it's not Mythical, that doesn't mean "one of them must be wrong," which is ''speculation,'' but that, ''given what we have,'' it is not Legendary or Mythical.
:::::::::::::The English site's categorization can't be taken into account because it is already wrong (as I explained, Keldeo and Shaymin prove that it's already not accurate considering other statements ''also on the English site''), but that's the only one we can prove is wrong. There is, therefore, not ''hinting'' but ''confirmation'' from the only sources we can't prove are wrong, that Deoxys is neither, and only information from a source I ''have'' proven is wrong to indicate that it might be one of them.
:::::::::::::Even so, since, clearly, it IS still debatable, I would honestly suggest doing it like Phione, because the situation is exactly the same, with official sources seemingly contradicting one another; we could list points like "it used to be Mythical and no Pokémon has been demoted before," "even if it is no longer event-only, it should transition to Legendary instead of being normal" and "the English site lists it as Legendary" and whatever else you can think of for pro-Legendary or Mythical status and "the Japanese site has stated in an Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire promotion that only event-only Pokémon are Mythical, a requirement which Deoxys no longer meets," "the Japanese site has listed it as non-Legendary, indicating that it is neither Mythical nor Legendary," and "the reliability of its placement on the English site is questionable due to the already-contradictory information in it, with Shaymin and Keldeo being classified as Legendary despite another statement on the site claiming that all Legendary Pokémon are obtainable in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire" for against. This would be completely true - it IS under debate - and it's the only way to accurately represent both sides in the article. Sound like an adequate compromise? [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 02:54, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
{{indent}}I think you're being needlessly uptight about [http://www.pokemonrubysapphire.com/en-gb/pokemon/legendary-pokemon/change-two-mythical-pokemon Keldeo/Shaymin] and the statement that "all Legendary Pokémon can be obtained in-game". (I say this realizing that the same could perhaps be said about my conviction that Deoxys must be either Legendary or Mythical. =P ) There are reasonable explanations why they're included in the Legendary Pokemon section. They could easily consider Mythical and Legendary Pokemon similar enough, and/or consider it too much of a hassle to make a whole separate Mythical section, that including them under Legendary is good enough for ''most'' users (perhaps not for at least one, plainly =P ). In any case, the Legendary section is still plainly the section for Legendary or Mythical Pokemon. You're taking it too far when you try to dismiss it entirely as ''any'' sort of evidence about Deoxys' status.

"One source must be wrong" is no more speculation than "Deoxys is neither Legendary nor Mythical". Both fly in the face of plain facts (plain "statements" by different sources vs all of Deoxys's Legendary- or Mythical-like characteristics). They are in fact both reasonable conclusions, that simply differ as a result of placing different value on different pieces of evidence.

I am loath to say Deoxys should be treated anything like Phione. (But I wouldn't stop it if people think it should be.) Someone else can comment on that. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:01, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
:If I would say, I'd say that make a conclusion based on 2 sources with different languages (wait, is the survey available in other language, too?) is not what we should always do, because of the localization or something (I don't know why, but the survey even says Dialga, Palkia and Giratina ''are'' a pair).

:About the Shaymin/Keldeo page, it clearly says "Change Two Mythical Pokémon!" and "The Mythical Pokémon Shaymin and Keldeo can change their appearance...", so I agree that it weird when you said about all Legendary can be obtain in ORAS (also, "between XY and ORAS", not "in ORAS"). And after all, maybe it's not so unreliable like you said, maybe it just whoever at TPC categorize the site thinks that "Mythical" is a subset category of "Legendary" (like what I always thought before last week).

:And about treating Deoxys like Phione, I think we should just write the debates in the trivia sections (at both this page and {{p|Deoxys|Deoxys's page}}) as normal. I think it's not worth making things as serious as Phione. We should ask more people about this. --[[User:Yen01|Yen01]] ([[User talk:Yen01|talk]]) 04:56, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
::If other Pokémon that we know aren't Legendary are in the section, it ''can't'' be used as evidence that something else in it is Legendary, regardless of what you speculate they may have been thinking - they made an error in a nearly identical situation, and without verification, we can't be sure that Deoxys' placement isn't another, and we certainly can't use it as proof of anything. I'm not being "uptight" about it; it's an error and the source can't be used for proof if it contains other false information. We can put a trivia point saying "Deoxys was called Legendary on the ORAS website" like how we mention the '''errors''' in spelling Jessie's name by different sources. That said, again, it ''is'' debated, with conflicting official sources. Which really is the same as Phione, minus the fact that Deoxys has ''fan-designated'' traits associated with Legendary Pokémon and Phione has ''fan-designated'' traits associated with non-Mythical Pokémon. Deoxys' status is debated and there is conflict between official sources. You've said so yourself. Phione's status is also debated and there is conflict between official sources. ''Why'' is Deoxys' situation different from Phione's and ''why'' should they be treated differently?
::Yen01, I did mean between XY and ORAS. Didn't realize I only mentioned ORAS in that retelling of the information. Sorry! Also, I'm not using sources from different languages. Both of the sources ''I'' presented were Japanese; other people were bringing up the survey and the English site, but I've been using a consistent language when bringing up new points, and going only by the sources from one language, I have explained why Deoxys is not Legendary and not Mythical. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 05:20, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Don't try to downplay the commonalities among Legendary and/or Mythical Pokemon by calling them "fan-designated". They are not, as that implies, ''made up'' by fans. It doesn't matter if no official source has explicitly defined those characteristics in writing; they don't need to. They have manifestly created those "Legendary" and "Mythical" Pokemon and/or the games such that those Pokemon have common characteristics that are readily identifiable by anyone moderately familiar with the games. That is not "fan-designated", that's just being observant. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:32, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
::::All pseudo-Legendaries were dual-typed and that was considered not only an observation, but a rule. Then Goodra came. Pseudo-Legendary is referred to not only as a fan term but a flexible one despite being a pattern of Pokémon specifically designed to have common characteristics readily identifiable by most fans. "Being observant" and using basic logic to solve something like this ''is'' speculation and assumption, which, no matter how obvious it is, can't be put on Bulbapedia. This is a site that still doesn't consider Zygarde a member of the Mortality Trio because it's not confirmed. Deoxys' status as Legendary or Mythical is, as of ORAS, just as inconclusive as Phione's, and no amount of ''your opinion'' on what makes a Pokémon "deserve" the status can change that. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 06:56, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::I think the English site including Deoxys and Mythical Pokémon under "Legendary Pokémon" can just be marked down to an error; we have ample evidence that Legendary and Mythical Pokémon are mutually-exclusive groups from both English and Japanese sources.
:::::"pseudo-Legendary" is a fan term to describe a pattern in Pokémon. I had always argued that "dual-typed" was merely a coincidence and not a critical part of the pattern. Regardless, they were never officially defined as a group, so their parameters were always fan-designated, whereas "Mythical Pokémon" has been officially defined. The two are not comparable.
:::::I think it's entirely reasonable to handle Deoxys like Phione at present. Both are permitted in the upcoming "Circle of Legends" tournament, which only permits Legendary and Mythical Pokémon, despite us having conflicting evidence about their status as Mythical Pokémon. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:03, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::You are as wrong as it is possible to be that I am speculating, EpicDeino. I am indeed assuming, but so are you and so is anyone who won't just shrug and say "I don't know". Lacking an explicit and unambiguous statement one way or another, that's all it is ''possible'' to do, in the end; look at all your evidence, weigh it, and draw your own, personal conclusion/opinion. You're no more special than I in that regard. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 09:06, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::::Snorlax, I meant in regards to Legendary Pokémon. I know Mythical has fixed criteria. Sorry; it wasn't clear in that post, but when I said "fan-designated traits associated with non-Mythical Pokémon," I meant things like breedability that ''weren't'' official criteria and people were just assuming. I have mentioned the official distinction between Mythical and normal previously, and was trying (albeit very vaguely) to illustrate the point that any requirements that ''are'' fan-designated (that is, anything else) aren't actually relevant.
:::::::I am also aware that pseudo-Legendary is a fan group, and I was comparing the fact that fans claim ''that'' pattern is deliberate on Game Freak's part and entirely consistent to the fact that they also claim that the traits shared by Legendary Pokémon (which are, unlike Mythical Pokémon, really ''only'' bound by official statement of their status - there is no official statement of the traits that "make" a Legendary) are deliberate on Game Freak's part and entirely consistent, the latter of which was being used to say that Deoxys "deserved" the status more than Phione and being used as an argument against treating them similarly.
:::::::Tiddlywinks, may I ask why you claim I'm acting as if ''I'm'' "special?" You have cited fan-designated "rules" for Legendaries - and I've explained why fan-designated "rules" have changed in the past for other patterns that fans picked up on by being "observant" - and said "it deserves the status" and that it seems "intuitive" that it would be one of them, both of which are blatantly opinionated, along with citing exactly one source. You've also repeatedly disregarded the statements that I've made, saying that they are "contradictory" when they go hand in hand with one another and are from a consistent and accurate source, and that they prove ''nothing'' simply because they prove the two halves of the point separately rather than simultaneously... which means absolutely nothing about their validity. You've also said I'm being "needlessly uptight" about a factual error that conclusively proves a source's unreliability, then provided yet more speculation in the form of ''your idea of why the error might have happened,'' as if that makes it any less of an error. Common mistake ≠ not a mistake. Understandable mistake ≠ not a mistake. In contrast to all of your speculation, assumptions and allegedly "logical" statements that ''contradict'' facts, I've exclusively cited actual evidence and used ''no'' opinionated statements as reasoning, and I have proven - repeatedly - that the only source of ''real evidence'' you have brought up is unreliable. Despite this, I'm ''still'' trying to settle for the lesser option of acknowledging the debate on the page and treating it like Phione ''instead of'' trying to press my own stance, which seems to be what the majority of official evidence points towards, and having the page flat-out state that it's not Legendary or Mythical as I originally desired. There is still ''no proof'' that it is Legendary or Mythical, except for ''one'' categorization in a list that is ''already'' erroneous and therefore unreliable, while there is conclusive proof from a separate source that does ''not'' actively contradict itself. I still fail to see why you think your argument holds as much weight as mine, let alone that I must see myself as "special" - a case of ''ad hominem'' that has nothing to do with the argument, which is often frowned upon in the average debate almost as much as saying that the fact that it's not Legendary and the fact that it's not Mythical don't prove that it isn't Legendary or Mythical (how can something not be Legendary or Mythical, but... still be one of those things?) - for not being totally sold on the opinions, factually invalid "logic," patterns and invalid sources you've used to present your case. Just saying. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 10:46, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::::You're misunderstanding me greatly if you think I want to treat Deoxys unfairly. I never said that Doexys and Phione should not be treated similarly. I only said that I am (very much personally/selfishly) loath to ''endorse'' treating Deoxys like Phione. I very explicitly meant to leave open the possibility that it was/is the right thing to do; however, *I* simply did not want to be the one to validate that. The sole reason for that sentiment is that I would ''much'' rather have a solid answer than endorse another "Well, gee, we're not really sure, so let us show you a bunch of bits and pieces of info, and just have a think on it yourself..." in the mainspace. But, as I said, if it ''is'' the right thing to do, then I have ''no intention'' of gainsaying that; of ''insisting'' that Deoxys be treated "unfairly".
::::::::My quandry comes down to this... I don't think it should be radical to say that it would be a ''drastic'' action to officially strip a Legendary or Mythical Pokemon of those titles. (I really don't care if you think this is "just" opinion.) Given that, I think it is unconscionable to claim that this is what happened without a very explicit and unambiguous statement that that is exactly the case. We do not have that.
::::::::There did used to be a [[Pokémon.com#Mailbag|Mailbag]]. Is there no way to ask someone officially now whether Deoxys is officially a Legendary, or a Mythical, or perhaps neither?
::::::::Also, FWIW, "You're no more special than I", i.e., "You and I are basically ''equals''" is not ad hominem. I just wrote it that way for a bit of (I feel) poetic flair or something. I think if you read it consistently with my statement there, it ''should'' come off as just saying "Hey, we both have opinions, and it's natural for you to think you're right, but please don't try to say I'm being wildly unreasonable (i.e., speculating)." I don't care if you think I am unreasonable (i.e., reasoning wrong), because I certainly think you are in places, but I think that to label my reasoning speculation is, itself, unreasonable. =P
::::::::(I could also try to state more clearly now why I'm reasonable—to answer your questions above of why I'm seeming to be "illogical"—but I really don't like long talk page posts and it really isn't sounding like I'm going to convince you of the merits of my arguments, or even that my logic ''is'' "logical" and not ''just'' opinion or speculation, so I kind of think it's pointless.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:11, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::::Oh yeah, as SnorlaxMonster mentioned above: "Both [Deoxys and Phione] are permitted in the upcoming "Circle of Legends" tournament, which only permits Legendary and Mythical Pokémon". Is that good enough for you? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:27, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::"Phione is a usable Pokémon in the recently announced Rotation Battle tournament Circle of Legends where only Legendary and Mythical Pokémon are allowed." That's already mentioned on Phione's page - in the "evidence for" section, which, along with the "evidence against" section, ''still exists'' in Trivia in spite of this evidence. Bulbapedia has clearly deemed it insufficient proof for Phione, so it's insufficient proof for Deoxys. The "other" section of Phione's page also points out "Originally, Phione was not needed in order to complete the National Pokédex, as with other Mythical Pokémon. However, beginning with Pokémon X and Y, it is needed to qualify for the diploma." This is the same as Deoxys. It also mentions the mailbag, which not only changed its answer and therefore wasn't even included to favor a specific side, but nothing like which currently exists as far as I know. Not an option right now. From the survey and the Pokédex, we know it's not Mythical, so that just leaves the dispute between Legendary and neither. You've cited the Circle of Legends tournament - which is still being listed on the page ''as part of the dispute'' and not conclusive evidence in Phione's case - against the Japanese official site - which has not been proven unreliable, either, and should be considered equal. Two conflicting sources. Notice, also, that most of Phione's evidence is from different games. Deoxys has only had one game since the conflict started, so it makes sense that there would be less evidence, but an official source outside of games (the guide in Phione's case and the Japanese site in Deoxys') and the Circle of Legends tournament (for both) contradict each other in the same way. So, Deoxys is not Mythical - we even have ''in-game'' proof - and we have conflicting evidence from official sources that contradict each other on whether or not they were Legendary. Still in the same scenario as Phione. If you don't want to "be the one to endorse" that they should be treated the same, why? There's equal evidence for both sides. The scenario is the same - you're just saying that ''you personally don't want them to be treated the same'' regardless, simply because you'd rather have a clear official statement - which we don't have right now and can't get. When and if we get official confirmation of exactly what Deoxys is, we can change the page to say so. But Phione hasn't gotten that after eight years of being around, so that's utterly absurd - we cannot wait until ''something that may never happen'' before we address the fact that a Pokémon now listed as Mythical is NOT Mythical (that much, at least, hasn't been argued against once in this entire debate, and ''that'' is what the page currently '''falsely''' states), is either Legendary or normal and that there ''is'' conflicting evidence between official sources as to which of the two possibilities it is. ''This is no different from Phione.'' And while Deoxys may have less evidence, it has less ''for both sides,'' because the dispute hasn't existed for as long.
:::::::::Side note: Yes, "you're no more special than I" does mean "you and I are equals." It also, unlike the presented alternative, contains many implications that are not only rude but, in this scenario, false (unless you care to explain why they're true, which the bottom of your post suggests you don't plan on doing) - "you're no more special than I" clearly states that the other person ''thinks'' he or she ''is'' more special carries the implication that they're acting in a biased (which more accurately describes some of ''your'' arguments, such as "it deserves the status"), entitled, or otherwise narcissistic or selfish manner. They have the same meaning, but "you're no more special than I" has much harsher (and, yes, insulting) connotations. It's not "poetic;" it's rude.
:::::::::Last thing: how is it unreasonable for me to call your speculation what it is? I'll gladly admit I'm wrong ''if you explain why I am.''
:::::::::There's no valid reason not to simply treat it like Phione when the only proof you have is ''shared by Phione'' and the alternative you've requested ''isn't possible right now.'' [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 22:57, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::You are having considerable trouble understanding me, when I thought I was being very clear. Read this and take it to heart, please: I am NOT trying to push that Deoxys should not be treated like Phione. I do not claim that there is conclusive evidence of anything for Deoxys. Please stop writing as if I am. I will ignore anything else from you for now until I believe you understand me on this. Thank you. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:06, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::::You explicitly stated that despite not being against the idea, you refused to endorse it ''in favor of waiting for an official statement.'' I explained in my post why that's probably not an option.
:::::::::::Second, "Oh yeah, as SnorlaxMonster mentioned above: "Both [Deoxys and Phione] are permitted in the upcoming "Circle of Legends" tournament, which only permits Legendary and Mythical Pokémon". '''Is that good enough for you?'''" Considering that this was in the same post that you said you wanted to deal with the issue when we got an official statement, this sounded an awful lot like an attempt at proving it was conclusively Legendary, particularly the last sentence. I only reacted to exactly what you said here.
:::::::::::Third, you're now using "I'm going to ignore you" as a way to avoid the other part of my post: you still haven't explained how the majority of your argument was anything but speculation, with your statements of "it deserves it," "it has common traits of Legendaries" and the like being absolutely opinionated and your previous insistence that people weren't on the same page and the evidence I presented was void when two pieces of evidence that ''didn't'' contradict one another supported the opposite side simply because ''you thought it must be an error for Deoxys not to be Legendary or Mythical'' after defending a source I criticized for already being wrong about something. You can't say I'm the one being biased and acting entitled or "special" when you have previously - in this same debate - tried to ignore perfectly valid evidence because it contradicted ''what you wanted at that point in the argument''. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 03:10, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::::1)You seem to believe here that it is critical that you convince me of this, as if I am somehow stopping you or anyone else. Let me repeat myself: I take no part in that decision, in any way. (If you think I have, you mistake me.) Decide it with others (or yourself).
::::::::::::2) I'm sorry if it sounded like I thought it was a conclusive, official statement. That's not really the case. What I meant was, you had denounced the other things I had attempted to give you as valid evidence that Deoxys was Legendary or Mythical (either you think I'm speculating or you think it's unreliable); so, would you consider the tournament a valid piece of evidence that Deoxys is Legendary or Mythical? (I don't ask you to be convinced that Deoxys is Legendary or Mythical. I'm only asking that you recognize it as validly contradicting the conclusion you've held so far (when you've so far claimed that nothing I've brought up can), that Deoxys is neither Legendary nor Mythical; a smidgen of reasonable doubt, in short.)
::::::::::::3) Understand that "It has common traits of Legendaries" (Deoxys and indisputably Legendary Pokemon share certain traits that other Pokemon (not counting Mythicals) do not have) is not opinion, it is fact. What you mean is, you do not accept that there are any traits (short of officially being given the title) that define a Legendary Pokemon. Which is fine. But it does not mean Deoxys does not have those traits. Those commonalities cannot be wished away; the only point where you have choice (opinion) is in the conclusion you make from them. (FWIW, you also throw out a quote of me of "It deserves it" like it's something separate, but that's actually squarely based on Deoxys' Legendary traits. ...The rest, I can't really bring anything new to. I have explained and you've rejected; I'm comfortable with it being a simple difference of opinion.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:19, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
(Resetting indent.)
1) Okay. I just figured I might as well explain it anyway, since the purpose of this discussion is to get a consensus and you said you would prefer an official statement even though that's not an option.
2) Ah, sorry for misunderstanding. Then yes, that is a valid point that should definitely be brought up somewhere (after all, it is with Phione).
3) My dispute with that quote was more or less that I interpreted what you were saying as making it off as some kind of "rule" when other patterns that fans claimed were deliberate and consistent later changed.
But considering your last post, I do understand your stance and... basically don't think there's anything to argue with you about any more? I apologize for misunderstanding some of your statements and probably coming off as rude in how I reacted to them (especially given that I was wrong in the first place). Thank you for the clarification! [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 05:36, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
:You're welcome. =) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:05, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
::I'm adding a little thing to this discussion: ORAS take place in another dimension/universe/whatever, right? Well, in that dimension Deoxys is Legendary, while in the previous one it's Mythical. This is only a possible explanation of the vague classification we have now from Game Freak/TPC, it should by no means be included in any page, but I thought it could be interesting to add to your conversation. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 22:25, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

== More? ==
Is there some logic that with some legendary pokemon there are more than one in anime(for example: Latios, Lugia), and with some only one (Mew, Tornados)? [[User:Lokki|Lokki]] ([[User talk:Lokki|talk]]), 19:38, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

:No legendary is unique. Think about it. If it were unique, if one dies, the species goes extinct. That should have happened a long time ago if they were unique. We haven't seen ALL of Dialga's or Palkia's dimensions, either. Same goes for Giratina and Arceus. We have only seen small sections of them. For all we know, these dimensions could have thousands or even MILLIONS of their respective species. And of course, there are multiple Mews: One flies throughout the world, while another is at the Tree of Beginning. For Mewtwo, both fly around the world. One has a more woman-like voice, and that one can Mega Evolve. I could go on all day, naming all the legendaries and saying why we know there is multiple, but I'm getting bored of typing this. [[User:TheRealArceus|TheRealArceus]] ([[User talk:TheRealArceus|talk]]) 16:47, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
::This discussion is more suited for the forums, so please take it over there.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 23:26, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Legendary Pokémon/Archive3

2015-07-14T22:25:45Z

Shepeedy: /* Deoxys */

[[Talk:Legendary Pokémon/Archive1|Archive #1]] 
[[Talk:Legendary Pokémon/Archive2|Archive #2]]

== Separating Mythical and Legendary Pokémon ==

The matter of separating the articles of Legendary and Mythical Pokémon is in discussion because of Generation VI's newly introduced disambiguation of the term ''Mythical Pokémon''. I have started a [[User:Ash Pokemaster/Mythical Pokémon|short draft]] that anyone should feel free to expand. Meanwhile, in response to [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) [[Talk:Legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon/Archive2#Separation|15:18, 5 May 2015 (UTC)]]:
:A better phrasing might be "a related group of Pokémon related to Legendary Pokémon", but I'm being conservative for the time being. I haven't found evidence supporting that ''Mythical Pokémon'' are indeed ''Legendary'' (as far as Japanese media are concerned), and the fact that [http://www.pokemonconquest.com/en-us/outline/densetsu recent] text refers to all of them collectively as "Legendary and Mythical Pokémon" makes me think they aren't. Mythical Pokémon as an English term may be relatively recent, but 幻のポケモン has always been a thing -- it has been in use on and off since 1998 (potentially even earlier, in Mew ads from 1996). It started catching on (that is to say, being used more commonly) around [http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/history/ 2007] or 2008. Prior to that, reference to Mythical Pokémon has been generally informal, with several other terms like [https://web.archive.org/web/20040404003246/http://www.pokemon.co.jp/game/deoxys/index.html 特別なポケモン] (''Tokubetsuna Pokémon'', probably a parallel to ''Event Pokémon'') seen in official media. Ever since Gen 5, it has been in use unambiguously. You can even find a formal definition of 幻のポケモン in Pokescrap's [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/pokescrap2014/pokemon/ page].

:As of today (arguably since [[Talk:Legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon/Archive2#Mythical_and_Legendary_classification_with_sources|Gen 5]]) the same holds for ''Mythical'', as there is no reference of Mythical Pokémon being Legendary anywhere, as far as I know. Even cases like Deoxys, where 幻のポケモン was originally mistranslated as ''Legendary Pokémon'', are now properly classified. The assumption that Mythical Pokémon are Legendary is natural, and the western community especially is accustomed to the convention for most of the franchise's life, with the proper term coined years after its Japanese counterpart (granted, the term ''Rare Pokémon'' was once being used in places like Pokémon Ranger and [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pokemon.com_officially_reveals_Shaymin announcements]), but I have to ask: what's the point of including Mythical Pokémon in the Legendary Pokémon page when they aren't officially referred to as ''Legendary Pokémon''? Saving clicks? Is an encyclopedia's mission to pander to the community's fondness of obsolete terminology, or is it to be accurate and in-line with the series' current conventions and lore? [[User:Ash Pokemaster|Ash Pokemaster]] ([[User talk:Ash Pokemaster|talk]]) 17:41, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
::Bulbapedia's mission is not necessarily to be official, it's to be an informative English-language Pokémon encyclopedia, which happens to be a mission that involves official sources. Since we're just going in circles ''again'', let me just point out that when the community searches for "Legendary Pokémon", they expect to find info on Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, et cetera in addition to those normally obtainable within their debut generation. Splitting the page would also have the effect of splitting Mew and Keldeo from their respective legendary "families", to the detriment of the wiki. In addition, my position since the start of English-language Gen V has been that mythicals are a subset of legendaries, and as I pointed out last time we talked about this, North American ''Super Smash Bros. for Wii U'' backs me up, while you have not cited an English-language source in your argument. [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 06:50, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
:::I suppose that we principally disagree on whether Bulbapedia's coverage should be based strictly on canonical sources (which exclude contradicting English-language sources which commonly include mistranslations, although this may also be a matter of argument) or be more in-line with fans' expectations. I will admit I have no source that downright states "Mythical Pokémon are not a subset of Legendary Pokémon", but what's the point of the "Legendary and Mythical Pokémon" statement if the latter aren't a separate group? It would be a redundancy. Your NA Smash Bros. argument only augments my point, if only because the difference between the European and the NA version simply proves that there's an existing ambiguity that the more careful sources (ie. the ones that don't spell Onix as "Onyx") take under consideration. Besides, why should it be taken under consideration over the European translation? What makes it inherently more valid?
:::I will agree that this is most likely going to go in circles. It would be better to let other people weigh in. --[[User:Ash Pokemaster|Ash Pokemaster]] ([[User talk:Ash Pokemaster|talk]]) 07:37, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
::::People expecting to find Mythical Pokémon when coming to this page can be solved with a hatnote and in-article prose. However, we should be using official definitions whereever possible. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:38, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
::SnorlaxMonster and Ash Pokemaster, I get what you're implying, and I see your reasoning, but do you actually have a source that ''directly'' states mythicals are not legendaries? [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 11:37, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
:::Yes, there is an official source that explicitly shows they're separate groups that don't overlap: Corocoro. In either October or November 2014 - can't remember which - Corocoro promised that '''every''' Legendary Pokémon would be available for capture in ORAS. Come the games' release, we saw that this didn't include Mythical Pokémon. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 23:41, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
::::Corocoro is a Japanese source, and the debate is over the English terminology. However, both the US and UK official ORAS sites made the same claim, albeit with different wording, stating that "between XYORAS, all Legendary Pokémon will be ''obtainable''". [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 07:57, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
:::::No, the debate is ''not'' on the English terminology, but on the ''group to which it refers.'' They're still called Legendary and Mythical whether Bulbapedia says Mythical is a subset or a separate group. In fact, ''the page has actually called Mythical by the same name under both circumstances in the past.'' that ''isn't'' being debated right now. What is being debated is whether Mythical Pokémon, [http://www.pokepedia.fr/Pokémon_fabuleux a group which exists in other languages as well and is NOT exclusive to the English language], is separate from Legendary. This has absolutely nothing to do with the name of the group when the group itself is the same in the other languages - the idea of things having different names in different languages applies to basically everything else in Pokémon as well, and doesn't prevent foreign language sources from being used as evidence when the subject itself remains identical. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 03:41, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
::::::The debate is on the group to which it refers ''in English'', so this is indeed over English terminology. [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 11:28, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
:::::::Sorry, but... I don't understand what you mean? As I JUST explained, the group exists in every language. The group, which is consistent throughout every language, is ''referred to in English'' as Mythical, but ''still exists, albeit by various other names,'' in other languages - like ''everything else in the series,'' actually. I even provided a link to the French encyclopædia Pokémonis as proof of the group's existence in other languages. The name has absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about. By your logic, no Japanese source could be used for anything that has a different name in English. To reiterate from my previous post: '''we aren't debating the name of the group.''' We're debating whether or not said group, ''which exists in every language,'' albeit with a different name ''because it is translated like everything else in the series,'' is separate from Legendary, another group ''which exists in every language,'' again with different names ''because it is translated like everything else in the series.'' Please, explain ''why'' having a different name would prevent a group that is otherwise ''completely consistent between languages'' from being considered the same thing when everything else in the series is in the same situation. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 18:37, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

==Mythical Pokémon = Events?==

I know for a fact that the only difference I have found from Legendary and Mythical Pokémon is that most Mythical Pokémon are usually event exclusive with even stats all over (most of the time) and that Legendary Pokémon are usually found towards the ends of games and commonly have higher stats than Mythical Pokémon (not counting Mega Diancie). [[User:BowserBrowser|BowserBrowser]] ([[User talk:BowserBrowser|talk]]) 10:29, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
:It's actually even simpler than that. Legendaries are available in-game. Mythical are unavailable in-game. Nothing else you mentioned is related. It has nothing to do with high stats versus low, or being near the end of the game, or "usually" being event-exclusive (even Deoxys, formerly Mythical, has been listed as "other" in the Japanese promotional material and simply hasn't been referenced as either Legendary ''or'' Mythical in English promotions since ORAS made it available as far as I know - being event-only is not "usually" a trait shared, but ''always'' the case), or whether stats are balanced or specialized. There is a clear-cut distinction between them. (Also, just as a side note, the definition was already on the article before you said this, so I'm not really sure what your point was? XD) [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 23:41, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

==Deoxys==
To avoid edit warring, I'm not changing the page right now (I already had changed Deoxys to say it isn't Mythical and that was reverted, so I'm pretty sure doing so again wouldn't be allowed), but I just wanted to explain the argument against Deoxys being Mythical.
In the Pokémon Scrap event, where you had to collect those clippings to earn Shaymin, Keldeo and Victini, the page on the official site explicitly stated something along the lines of "Shaymin, Keldeo and Victini, '''like other Mythical Pokémon,''' cannot be normally obtained in Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire." This is an official statement that Mythical does '''always''' mean event-only, so Deoxys isn't an exception - it's just not Mythical '''any more.''' It was before, but it has officially lost the status. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 23:41, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
:I hadn't noticed this ambiguity until now. You're quite right, it wasn't referred to as a Mythical Pokémon during the ORAS promotion. Granted, it isn't referred to as a Legendary either -- just "Pokémon Deoxys". I think it ought to be classified as a Mythical for the time being, if only because otherwise we might end up revisioning multiple Pokémon way too often (for all we know special "Episodes" that feature Mythical Pokémon might become a regular thing). However, a footnote for its special status is definitely needed, and we have to revisit its situation by the time the ORAS era is over and a new Deoxys event (or game inclusion) makes appearance.

:Which Pokescrap page are you referring to, by the way? The definition used in the (now [http://web.archive.org/web/20141231060449/http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/pokescrap2014/pokemon/ archived]) page simply says that Mythical Pokémon aren't available during normal play of the games. It would be interesting if it was indeed explicitly mentioned somewhere that "no Mythical Pokémon are available in ORAS" as far as Deoxys's status is concerned. --[[User:Ash Pokemaster|Ash Pokemaster]] ([[User talk:Ash Pokemaster|talk]]) 06:25, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
::Ah, sorry; I was actually wrong (I couldn't find the page, so I was going from memory) - it doesn't explicitly state "in ORAS." Still, the promotion was ''for'' ORAS, and Deoxys has not been called Mythical since, so it should still be valid evidence, right?
::Also, I'm not sure it'd be as hard as you say to fix it. I mean, if the official classification changes, we should fix it here, right? We add hundreds of pages whenever a new game comes out, so changing one Pokémon's classification wouldn't be unfeasible under the same circumstances (and even if it's mentioned in a lot of places, if we miss a page when altering it, anyone who comes across it can fix it - this isn't a one-person project or anything!). That said, we don't know what Deoxys IS considered right now, so I would be okay with holding off on changing it until we do. We should just definitely fix it as soon as we do know. XD [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 19:35, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
:::It seems you've assumed that Deoxys is no longer even a "Legendary", in addition to not being Mythical either. It seems to me pretty intuitive that Deoxys must be Legendary or Mythical (and definitely not neither), but in the meantime, Deoxys's [http://www.pokemonrubysapphire.com/en-us/pokemon/legendary-pokemon/deoxys inclusion] under the Legendary Pokemon section of the official ORAS site should be proof enough that it is at least Legendary. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:16, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
::::"Intuitive" is not the same as "fact," and, in fact, we even have a word. "counterintuitive," to illustrate the possibility of that difference. Assuming based on logic that Deoxys is Legendary is speculation, which, as far as I'm aware, isn't allowed here. [[Talk:Legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon/Archive2|This discussion]] shows that the Japanese site explicitly lists Deoxys as "other" and refers to it as neither Legendary nor Mythical. The "Legendary" Pokémon list is already wrong, with [http://www.pokemonrubysapphire.com/en-us/pokemon/legendary-pokemon/more-legendary-pokemon-appearing-in-mirage-spots this page] pointing out that all Legendary Pokémon can be obtained in-game, on the same site that has a page ''in the Legendary Pokémon section'' on the Mythical Pokémon Keldeo and Shaymin. I would personally say that what they actually say about it should take precedence over where they put it on the site. That said, I'm happy to discuss further, since there is conflicting information, as you have pointed out, and a lot of it is up in the air. (I wonder if Deoxys is going to become the new Phione in regards to debate. XD) [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 04:24, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::I would say, though, that if it flies so in the face of logic, you need pretty strong evidence to say something like Deoxys is neither Legendary nor Mythical (preferably more than just one little thing). As it happens, though, you have perhaps made a bad assumption about [[Talk:Legendary Pokémon/Archive2#Proposed split|SnorlaxMonster's comment]]. While it is true that [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/oras/pokemon/ the Japanese ORAS site] has a section for "Legendardy Pokemon" (伝説のポケモン), the fact that Deoxys is located under "Other" (その他) very much does not mean that Deoxys is neither Legendary nor Mythical, not when Mythical (幻の) is mentioned nowhere. I believe SnorlaxMonster in fact meant to say that since it's not listed under Legendary, they must consider Deoxys Mythical. In fact, if you look at that page now, you will see that Hoopa is also listed with Deoxys under "Other", so either they consider both of them Mythical or, as you assume, neither Mythical nor Legendary...despite the fact that Hoopa fits the supposed definition of Mythical to a tee. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:12, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::I might be able to help with what I meant by my own comment. I wasn't trying to say that because Deoxys is intentionally not listed as a Legendary Pokémon that it is necessarily a Mythical Pokémon; I was simply saying that it heavily indicated that Deoxys is not a Legendary Pokémon. To my knowledge, no official material has referred to Deoxys as Mythical since the release of ORAS, but we also do not have any evidence that it has had its Mythical status revoked, so we should continue to list it as such. I didn't notice Hoopa was listed in the "Other" section too, but that certainly is interesting; however, the section is merely "Other", so it simply means that they do not fit into the other sections on the page, not that they are both Mythical or both not Mythical. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:24, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::::This [https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/GYRH6RJ survey] strongly implies Deoxys is not a Mythical Pokémon. The question says "Which of these are your favorite Mythical Pokémon? (Choose your top 3.)", and includes every Mythical Pokémon, but not Phione or Deoxys.--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:20, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::::Just to state it plainly, it is still possible Deoxys is Legendary even though it does not appear anywhere else in the survey either, since there are other reliably "Legendary" Pokemon also missing (Mewtwo, Heatran, Kyurem, and Zygarde). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:49, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh, I completely did misunderstand that comment. I'm sorry. >.< I genuinely thought it said Deoxys was neither Mythical nor Legendary; it wasn't so much an assumption as completely misreading. XD That said, shouldn't that site saying it's not Legendary (even if it doesn't mention being Mythical) and the aforementioned PokéScrap site saying it's not Mythical count as proof, even if they were separate? The PokéScrap site IS proof that the Mythical status was revoked, because it specifically says ALL Mythical Pokémon are unavailable, and Deoxys was available. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 20:42, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::It's not proof Deoxys is neither. For my money, the Pokemon Company(/whatever) just doesn't really have its mind made up or doesn't want to make up/make known its mind on Deoxys's status, and/or there may also be some disconnect between English and Japanese branches or something. They need to paint a consistent and/or unambiguous picture, and until they do, IMO we need to avoid drawing conclusions from little, inconclusive hints. (And in the meantime, we should either consider Deoxys to provisionally have its previous status or to at least have the status that it logically deserves.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:07, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::::Just checked the survey you cited. It asked to pick your favorite Mythical Pokémon, and ALL Mythical Pokémon were listed. However, the Legendary Pokémon section was specifically for grouped Legendary Pokémon - it specifically says "pick your favorite pair" and "pick your favorite grouping." It never says that's every Legendary, and, in fact, it clearly says it's only counting ones that are pairs or groups. As such, the survey is reliable (although it doesn't prove Deoxys isn't Legendary - just that it's not Mythical). In contrast, it did say it was listing every Mythical Pokémon, so Deoxys (and, unrelatedly, Phione) are not counted. Can you provide any proof that it IS Mythical? Because right now, that's what we're calling it, yet even your own argument points only towards it either being Legendary if it is either, and its placement in "other" indicates that it's not Legendary. Please stop saying it ''deserves'' the status and therefore speculatively claiming it is "logically" Mythical. Speculation isn't permitted in the mainspace as far as I am aware.
:::::::::::I'm also aware it being "other" and not Legendary and it being available and not Mythical aren't conclusive individually. That's why I gave them both. Together, they DO prove that it is neither, because each proves that it can't be one of the two.
:::::::::::Also, they do seem to have made up their minds. I'm pretty sure you're just looking for an excuse to call it Mythical when it clearly isn't any more. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 22:25, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::::I never said that logically it is Mythical. I tried to say that it is not really logical that Deoxys would be classified as neither Legendary nor Mythical. (And beyond that, I don't really care which way Deoxys is classified, but there should be good proof behind whatever decision gets made.)
::::::::::::And that's the difference between you and I. You don't want to assume anything like that, and I think it is the height of folly to presume Deoxys wouldn't be counted either Legendary or Mythical. So when you see one place that implies Deoxys isn't Mythical and one that implies Deoxys isn't Legendary, you say, then it must be neither. Meanwhile, I see the same thing and just see contradicting implications and think everyone's not on the same page who should be (if they even know which page they want to be on, that is). And since all we have are implications, neither of us ''actually'' has anything approaching proof that Deoxys is X or Y or none of the above. For both of us, it makes sense, and there's ''nothing'' starkly clear enough to decide for us who is right.
::::::::::::That's why I said we need a clear statement from an official source. Until then, all our arguing about our interpretations of measly hints will get us precisely nowhere. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:21, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::::Addendum: we've also forgotten the official ORAS English site I mentioned above. On the one hand, we have the [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/oras/pokemon/ official Japanese site] that has a section for "Legendaries" but elects to include Deoxys under "Other" (implying Deoxys is not "Legendary"), while on the other, we have the [http://www.pokemonrubysapphire.com/en-us/pokemon/legendary-pokemon/deoxys official English site] where Deoxys is included in the Legendary Pokemon section. If that's not a strong indication that someones ''somewhere'' are not on the same page, about ''one thing'' or another, I don't know what is. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:31, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::::::The Japanese information is not contradictory. If we're explicitly told that it's not Legendary and then explicitly told that it's not Mythical, that doesn't mean "one of them must be wrong," which is ''speculation,'' but that, ''given what we have,'' it is not Legendary or Mythical.
:::::::::::::The English site's categorization can't be taken into account because it is already wrong (as I explained, Keldeo and Shaymin prove that it's already not accurate considering other statements ''also on the English site''), but that's the only one we can prove is wrong. There is, therefore, not ''hinting'' but ''confirmation'' from the only sources we can't prove are wrong, that Deoxys is neither, and only information from a source I ''have'' proven is wrong to indicate that it might be one of them.
:::::::::::::Even so, since, clearly, it IS still debatable, I would honestly suggest doing it like Phione, because the situation is exactly the same, with official sources seemingly contradicting one another; we could list points like "it used to be Mythical and no Pokémon has been demoted before," "even if it is no longer event-only, it should transition to Legendary instead of being normal" and "the English site lists it as Legendary" and whatever else you can think of for pro-Legendary or Mythical status and "the Japanese site has stated in an Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire promotion that only event-only Pokémon are Mythical, a requirement which Deoxys no longer meets," "the Japanese site has listed it as non-Legendary, indicating that it is neither Mythical nor Legendary," and "the reliability of its placement on the English site is questionable due to the already-contradictory information in it, with Shaymin and Keldeo being classified as Legendary despite another statement on the site claiming that all Legendary Pokémon are obtainable in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire" for against. This would be completely true - it IS under debate - and it's the only way to accurately represent both sides in the article. Sound like an adequate compromise? [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 02:54, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
{{indent}}I think you're being needlessly uptight about [http://www.pokemonrubysapphire.com/en-gb/pokemon/legendary-pokemon/change-two-mythical-pokemon Keldeo/Shaymin] and the statement that "all Legendary Pokémon can be obtained in-game". (I say this realizing that the same could perhaps be said about my conviction that Deoxys must be either Legendary or Mythical. =P ) There are reasonable explanations why they're included in the Legendary Pokemon section. They could easily consider Mythical and Legendary Pokemon similar enough, and/or consider it too much of a hassle to make a whole separate Mythical section, that including them under Legendary is good enough for ''most'' users (perhaps not for at least one, plainly =P ). In any case, the Legendary section is still plainly the section for Legendary or Mythical Pokemon. You're taking it too far when you try to dismiss it entirely as ''any'' sort of evidence about Deoxys' status.

"One source must be wrong" is no more speculation than "Deoxys is neither Legendary nor Mythical". Both fly in the face of plain facts (plain "statements" by different sources vs all of Deoxys's Legendary- or Mythical-like characteristics). They are in fact both reasonable conclusions, that simply differ as a result of placing different value on different pieces of evidence.

I am loath to say Deoxys should be treated anything like Phione. (But I wouldn't stop it if people think it should be.) Someone else can comment on that. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:01, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
:If I would say, I'd say that make a conclusion based on 2 sources with different languages (wait, is the survey available in other language, too?) is not what we should always do, because of the localization or something (I don't know why, but the survey even says Dialga, Palkia and Giratina ''are'' a pair).

:About the Shaymin/Keldeo page, it clearly says "Change Two Mythical Pokémon!" and "The Mythical Pokémon Shaymin and Keldeo can change their appearance...", so I agree that it weird when you said about all Legendary can be obtain in ORAS (also, "between XY and ORAS", not "in ORAS"). And after all, maybe it's not so unreliable like you said, maybe it just whoever at TPC categorize the site thinks that "Mythical" is a subset category of "Legendary" (like what I always thought before last week).

:And about treating Deoxys like Phione, I think we should just write the debates in the trivia sections (at both this page and {{p|Deoxys|Deoxys's page}}) as normal. I think it's not worth making things as serious as Phione. We should ask more people about this. --[[User:Yen01|Yen01]] ([[User talk:Yen01|talk]]) 04:56, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
::If other Pokémon that we know aren't Legendary are in the section, it ''can't'' be used as evidence that something else in it is Legendary, regardless of what you speculate they may have been thinking - they made an error in a nearly identical situation, and without verification, we can't be sure that Deoxys' placement isn't another, and we certainly can't use it as proof of anything. I'm not being "uptight" about it; it's an error and the source can't be used for proof if it contains other false information. We can put a trivia point saying "Deoxys was called Legendary on the ORAS website" like how we mention the '''errors''' in spelling Jessie's name by different sources. That said, again, it ''is'' debated, with conflicting official sources. Which really is the same as Phione, minus the fact that Deoxys has ''fan-designated'' traits associated with Legendary Pokémon and Phione has ''fan-designated'' traits associated with non-Mythical Pokémon. Deoxys' status is debated and there is conflict between official sources. You've said so yourself. Phione's status is also debated and there is conflict between official sources. ''Why'' is Deoxys' situation different from Phione's and ''why'' should they be treated differently?
::Yen01, I did mean between XY and ORAS. Didn't realize I only mentioned ORAS in that retelling of the information. Sorry! Also, I'm not using sources from different languages. Both of the sources ''I'' presented were Japanese; other people were bringing up the survey and the English site, but I've been using a consistent language when bringing up new points, and going only by the sources from one language, I have explained why Deoxys is not Legendary and not Mythical. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 05:20, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Don't try to downplay the commonalities among Legendary and/or Mythical Pokemon by calling them "fan-designated". They are not, as that implies, ''made up'' by fans. It doesn't matter if no official source has explicitly defined those characteristics in writing; they don't need to. They have manifestly created those "Legendary" and "Mythical" Pokemon and/or the games such that those Pokemon have common characteristics that are readily identifiable by anyone moderately familiar with the games. That is not "fan-designated", that's just being observant. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:32, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
::::All pseudo-Legendaries were dual-typed and that was considered not only an observation, but a rule. Then Goodra came. Pseudo-Legendary is referred to not only as a fan term but a flexible one despite being a pattern of Pokémon specifically designed to have common characteristics readily identifiable by most fans. "Being observant" and using basic logic to solve something like this ''is'' speculation and assumption, which, no matter how obvious it is, can't be put on Bulbapedia. This is a site that still doesn't consider Zygarde a member of the Mortality Trio because it's not confirmed. Deoxys' status as Legendary or Mythical is, as of ORAS, just as inconclusive as Phione's, and no amount of ''your opinion'' on what makes a Pokémon "deserve" the status can change that. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 06:56, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::I think the English site including Deoxys and Mythical Pokémon under "Legendary Pokémon" can just be marked down to an error; we have ample evidence that Legendary and Mythical Pokémon are mutually-exclusive groups from both English and Japanese sources.
:::::"pseudo-Legendary" is a fan term to describe a pattern in Pokémon. I had always argued that "dual-typed" was merely a coincidence and not a critical part of the pattern. Regardless, they were never officially defined as a group, so their parameters were always fan-designated, whereas "Mythical Pokémon" has been officially defined. The two are not comparable.
:::::I think it's entirely reasonable to handle Deoxys like Phione at present. Both are permitted in the upcoming "Circle of Legends" tournament, which only permits Legendary and Mythical Pokémon, despite us having conflicting evidence about their status as Mythical Pokémon. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:03, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::You are as wrong as it is possible to be that I am speculating, EpicDeino. I am indeed assuming, but so are you and so is anyone who won't just shrug and say "I don't know". Lacking an explicit and unambiguous statement one way or another, that's all it is ''possible'' to do, in the end; look at all your evidence, weigh it, and draw your own, personal conclusion/opinion. You're no more special than I in that regard. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 09:06, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::::Snorlax, I meant in regards to Legendary Pokémon. I know Mythical has fixed criteria. Sorry; it wasn't clear in that post, but when I said "fan-designated traits associated with non-Mythical Pokémon," I meant things like breedability that ''weren't'' official criteria and people were just assuming. I have mentioned the official distinction between Mythical and normal previously, and was trying (albeit very vaguely) to illustrate the point that any requirements that ''are'' fan-designated (that is, anything else) aren't actually relevant.
:::::::I am also aware that pseudo-Legendary is a fan group, and I was comparing the fact that fans claim ''that'' pattern is deliberate on Game Freak's part and entirely consistent to the fact that they also claim that the traits shared by Legendary Pokémon (which are, unlike Mythical Pokémon, really ''only'' bound by official statement of their status - there is no official statement of the traits that "make" a Legendary) are deliberate on Game Freak's part and entirely consistent, the latter of which was being used to say that Deoxys "deserved" the status more than Phione and being used as an argument against treating them similarly.
:::::::Tiddlywinks, may I ask why you claim I'm acting as if ''I'm'' "special?" You have cited fan-designated "rules" for Legendaries - and I've explained why fan-designated "rules" have changed in the past for other patterns that fans picked up on by being "observant" - and said "it deserves the status" and that it seems "intuitive" that it would be one of them, both of which are blatantly opinionated, along with citing exactly one source. You've also repeatedly disregarded the statements that I've made, saying that they are "contradictory" when they go hand in hand with one another and are from a consistent and accurate source, and that they prove ''nothing'' simply because they prove the two halves of the point separately rather than simultaneously... which means absolutely nothing about their validity. You've also said I'm being "needlessly uptight" about a factual error that conclusively proves a source's unreliability, then provided yet more speculation in the form of ''your idea of why the error might have happened,'' as if that makes it any less of an error. Common mistake ≠ not a mistake. Understandable mistake ≠ not a mistake. In contrast to all of your speculation, assumptions and allegedly "logical" statements that ''contradict'' facts, I've exclusively cited actual evidence and used ''no'' opinionated statements as reasoning, and I have proven - repeatedly - that the only source of ''real evidence'' you have brought up is unreliable. Despite this, I'm ''still'' trying to settle for the lesser option of acknowledging the debate on the page and treating it like Phione ''instead of'' trying to press my own stance, which seems to be what the majority of official evidence points towards, and having the page flat-out state that it's not Legendary or Mythical as I originally desired. There is still ''no proof'' that it is Legendary or Mythical, except for ''one'' categorization in a list that is ''already'' erroneous and therefore unreliable, while there is conclusive proof from a separate source that does ''not'' actively contradict itself. I still fail to see why you think your argument holds as much weight as mine, let alone that I must see myself as "special" - a case of ''ad hominem'' that has nothing to do with the argument, which is often frowned upon in the average debate almost as much as saying that the fact that it's not Legendary and the fact that it's not Mythical don't prove that it isn't Legendary or Mythical (how can something not be Legendary or Mythical, but... still be one of those things?) - for not being totally sold on the opinions, factually invalid "logic," patterns and invalid sources you've used to present your case. Just saying. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 10:46, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::::You're misunderstanding me greatly if you think I want to treat Deoxys unfairly. I never said that Doexys and Phione should not be treated similarly. I only said that I am (very much personally/selfishly) loath to ''endorse'' treating Deoxys like Phione. I very explicitly meant to leave open the possibility that it was/is the right thing to do; however, *I* simply did not want to be the one to validate that. The sole reason for that sentiment is that I would ''much'' rather have a solid answer than endorse another "Well, gee, we're not really sure, so let us show you a bunch of bits and pieces of info, and just have a think on it yourself..." in the mainspace. But, as I said, if it ''is'' the right thing to do, then I have ''no intention'' of gainsaying that; of ''insisting'' that Deoxys be treated "unfairly".
::::::::My quandry comes down to this... I don't think it should be radical to say that it would be a ''drastic'' action to officially strip a Legendary or Mythical Pokemon of those titles. (I really don't care if you think this is "just" opinion.) Given that, I think it is unconscionable to claim that this is what happened without a very explicit and unambiguous statement that that is exactly the case. We do not have that.
::::::::There did used to be a [[Pokémon.com#Mailbag|Mailbag]]. Is there no way to ask someone officially now whether Deoxys is officially a Legendary, or a Mythical, or perhaps neither?
::::::::Also, FWIW, "You're no more special than I", i.e., "You and I are basically ''equals''" is not ad hominem. I just wrote it that way for a bit of (I feel) poetic flair or something. I think if you read it consistently with my statement there, it ''should'' come off as just saying "Hey, we both have opinions, and it's natural for you to think you're right, but please don't try to say I'm being wildly unreasonable (i.e., speculating)." I don't care if you think I am unreasonable (i.e., reasoning wrong), because I certainly think you are in places, but I think that to label my reasoning speculation is, itself, unreasonable. =P
::::::::(I could also try to state more clearly now why I'm reasonable—to answer your questions above of why I'm seeming to be "illogical"—but I really don't like long talk page posts and it really isn't sounding like I'm going to convince you of the merits of my arguments, or even that my logic ''is'' "logical" and not ''just'' opinion or speculation, so I kind of think it's pointless.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:11, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::::Oh yeah, as SnorlaxMonster mentioned above: "Both [Deoxys and Phione] are permitted in the upcoming "Circle of Legends" tournament, which only permits Legendary and Mythical Pokémon". Is that good enough for you? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:27, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::"Phione is a usable Pokémon in the recently announced Rotation Battle tournament Circle of Legends where only Legendary and Mythical Pokémon are allowed." That's already mentioned on Phione's page - in the "evidence for" section, which, along with the "evidence against" section, ''still exists'' in Trivia in spite of this evidence. Bulbapedia has clearly deemed it insufficient proof for Phione, so it's insufficient proof for Deoxys. The "other" section of Phione's page also points out "Originally, Phione was not needed in order to complete the National Pokédex, as with other Mythical Pokémon. However, beginning with Pokémon X and Y, it is needed to qualify for the diploma." This is the same as Deoxys. It also mentions the mailbag, which not only changed its answer and therefore wasn't even included to favor a specific side, but nothing like which currently exists as far as I know. Not an option right now. From the survey and the Pokédex, we know it's not Mythical, so that just leaves the dispute between Legendary and neither. You've cited the Circle of Legends tournament - which is still being listed on the page ''as part of the dispute'' and not conclusive evidence in Phione's case - against the Japanese official site - which has not been proven unreliable, either, and should be considered equal. Two conflicting sources. Notice, also, that most of Phione's evidence is from different games. Deoxys has only had one game since the conflict started, so it makes sense that there would be less evidence, but an official source outside of games (the guide in Phione's case and the Japanese site in Deoxys') and the Circle of Legends tournament (for both) contradict each other in the same way. So, Deoxys is not Mythical - we even have ''in-game'' proof - and we have conflicting evidence from official sources that contradict each other on whether or not they were Legendary. Still in the same scenario as Phione. If you don't want to "be the one to endorse" that they should be treated the same, why? There's equal evidence for both sides. The scenario is the same - you're just saying that ''you personally don't want them to be treated the same'' regardless, simply because you'd rather have a clear official statement - which we don't have right now and can't get. When and if we get official confirmation of exactly what Deoxys is, we can change the page to say so. But Phione hasn't gotten that after eight years of being around, so that's utterly absurd - we cannot wait until ''something that may never happen'' before we address the fact that a Pokémon now listed as Mythical is NOT Mythical (that much, at least, hasn't been argued against once in this entire debate, and ''that'' is what the page currently '''falsely''' states), is either Legendary or normal and that there ''is'' conflicting evidence between official sources as to which of the two possibilities it is. ''This is no different from Phione.'' And while Deoxys may have less evidence, it has less ''for both sides,'' because the dispute hasn't existed for as long.
:::::::::Side note: Yes, "you're no more special than I" does mean "you and I are equals." It also, unlike the presented alternative, contains many implications that are not only rude but, in this scenario, false (unless you care to explain why they're true, which the bottom of your post suggests you don't plan on doing) - "you're no more special than I" clearly states that the other person ''thinks'' he or she ''is'' more special carries the implication that they're acting in a biased (which more accurately describes some of ''your'' arguments, such as "it deserves the status"), entitled, or otherwise narcissistic or selfish manner. They have the same meaning, but "you're no more special than I" has much harsher (and, yes, insulting) connotations. It's not "poetic;" it's rude.
:::::::::Last thing: how is it unreasonable for me to call your speculation what it is? I'll gladly admit I'm wrong ''if you explain why I am.''
:::::::::There's no valid reason not to simply treat it like Phione when the only proof you have is ''shared by Phione'' and the alternative you've requested ''isn't possible right now.'' [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 22:57, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::You are having considerable trouble understanding me, when I thought I was being very clear. Read this and take it to heart, please: I am NOT trying to push that Deoxys should not be treated like Phione. I do not claim that there is conclusive evidence of anything for Deoxys. Please stop writing as if I am. I will ignore anything else from you for now until I believe you understand me on this. Thank you. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:06, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::::You explicitly stated that despite not being against the idea, you refused to endorse it ''in favor of waiting for an official statement.'' I explained in my post why that's probably not an option.
:::::::::::Second, "Oh yeah, as SnorlaxMonster mentioned above: "Both [Deoxys and Phione] are permitted in the upcoming "Circle of Legends" tournament, which only permits Legendary and Mythical Pokémon". '''Is that good enough for you?'''" Considering that this was in the same post that you said you wanted to deal with the issue when we got an official statement, this sounded an awful lot like an attempt at proving it was conclusively Legendary, particularly the last sentence. I only reacted to exactly what you said here.
:::::::::::Third, you're now using "I'm going to ignore you" as a way to avoid the other part of my post: you still haven't explained how the majority of your argument was anything but speculation, with your statements of "it deserves it," "it has common traits of Legendaries" and the like being absolutely opinionated and your previous insistence that people weren't on the same page and the evidence I presented was void when two pieces of evidence that ''didn't'' contradict one another supported the opposite side simply because ''you thought it must be an error for Deoxys not to be Legendary or Mythical'' after defending a source I criticized for already being wrong about something. You can't say I'm the one being biased and acting entitled or "special" when you have previously - in this same debate - tried to ignore perfectly valid evidence because it contradicted ''what you wanted at that point in the argument''. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 03:10, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::::1)You seem to believe here that it is critical that you convince me of this, as if I am somehow stopping you or anyone else. Let me repeat myself: I take no part in that decision, in any way. (If you think I have, you mistake me.) Decide it with others (or yourself).
::::::::::::2) I'm sorry if it sounded like I thought it was a conclusive, official statement. That's not really the case. What I meant was, you had denounced the other things I had attempted to give you as valid evidence that Deoxys was Legendary or Mythical (either you think I'm speculating or you think it's unreliable); so, would you consider the tournament a valid piece of evidence that Deoxys is Legendary or Mythical? (I don't ask you to be convinced that Deoxys is Legendary or Mythical. I'm only asking that you recognize it as validly contradicting the conclusion you've held so far (when you've so far claimed that nothing I've brought up can), that Deoxys is neither Legendary nor Mythical; a smidgen of reasonable doubt, in short.)
::::::::::::3) Understand that "It has common traits of Legendaries" (Deoxys and indisputably Legendary Pokemon share certain traits that other Pokemon (not counting Mythicals) do not have) is not opinion, it is fact. What you mean is, you do not accept that there are any traits (short of officially being given the title) that define a Legendary Pokemon. Which is fine. But it does not mean Deoxys does not have those traits. Those commonalities cannot be wished away; the only point where you have choice (opinion) is in the conclusion you make from them. (FWIW, you also throw out a quote of me of "It deserves it" like it's something separate, but that's actually squarely based on Deoxys' Legendary traits. ...The rest, I can't really bring anything new to. I have explained and you've rejected; I'm comfortable with it being a simple difference of opinion.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:19, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
(Resetting indent.)
1) Okay. I just figured I might as well explain it anyway, since the purpose of this discussion is to get a consensus and you said you would prefer an official statement even though that's not an option.
2) Ah, sorry for misunderstanding. Then yes, that is a valid point that should definitely be brought up somewhere (after all, it is with Phione).
3) My dispute with that quote was more or less that I interpreted what you were saying as making it off as some kind of "rule" when other patterns that fans claimed were deliberate and consistent later changed.
But considering your last post, I do understand your stance and... basically don't think there's anything to argue with you about any more? I apologize for misunderstanding some of your statements and probably coming off as rude in how I reacted to them (especially given that I was wrong in the first place). Thank you for the clarification! [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 05:36, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
:You're welcome. =) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:05, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
::I'm adding a little thing to this discussion: ORAS take place in another dimension/universe/whatever, right? Well, in that dimension Deoxys is Legendary, while in the previous one it's Mythical.
This is only a possible explanation of the vague classification we have now from Game Freak/TPC, it should by no means be included in any page, but I thought it could be interesting to add to your conversation. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 22:25, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

== More? ==
Is there some logic that with some legendary pokemon there are more than one in anime(for example: Latios, Lugia), and with some only one (Mew, Tornados)? [[User:Lokki|Lokki]] ([[User talk:Lokki|talk]]), 19:38, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

:No legendary is unique. Think about it. If it were unique, if one dies, the species goes extinct. That should have happened a long time ago if they were unique. We haven't seen ALL of Dialga's or Palkia's dimensions, either. Same goes for Giratina and Arceus. We have only seen small sections of them. For all we know, these dimensions could have thousands or even MILLIONS of their respective species. And of course, there are multiple Mews: One flies throughout the world, while another is at the Tree of Beginning. For Mewtwo, both fly around the world. One has a more woman-like voice, and that one can Mega Evolve. I could go on all day, naming all the legendaries and saying why we know there is multiple, but I'm getting bored of typing this. [[User:TheRealArceus|TheRealArceus]] ([[User talk:TheRealArceus|talk]]) 16:47, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
::This discussion is more suited for the forums, so please take it over there.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 23:26, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Phione (Pokémon)

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==Phione- Legendary or not?==
Can phione really be considered a legendary? It is by no means limited to one a game cartridge as legendary Pokemon are, given that it can breed with Ditto as well as any Magnemite, Rotom, or Baltoy. It's base stats are the same as Glalie's. Which is NOT legendary. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in order to be a legendary, doesn't a Pokemon have to be only one per game without trading, and have at least SOMEWHAT good stats? {{unsigned|Missingno. Master}}
:In my opinion, it's okay the way this article puts it. It doesn't mention Phione being a legendary, yet it's in the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Sinnoh_Legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon legendary category] because it's related to Manaphy (and its Pokédex number is among legendaries). Kind of like an honorable mention in lists, but still not worth of mentioning a legendary status when talking about Phione itself. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:43, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
::Hmm... It's because of the criterion of mine I mentioned in the last paragraph that I didn't like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Phione_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&diff=142880&oldid=142060 this update]. I wonder if somebody agrees with me. Was it really necessary to mention that "it's still considered a legendary"? --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 00:30, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
:My opinion is that Phione is classed as a legendary Pokémon because of it's relation to Manaphy as Johans has said. Also, legendary Pokémon do not evolve. Phione does not evolve into Manaphy either therefore, it must have some legendary traits. [[User:Tesh|Tesh]]
:You know, I'd have to say Phione is best classified as legendary. It's a derivative of a legendary - more closely tied to a true legendary Pokémon than Mewtwo is to Mew. It's a black sheep of the lot, but still pretty legendary, I think. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 02:18, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
::What's the role of the Phione species in Mystery Dungeon 2? I still vote for never mentioning explicitly "Phione is a legendary" until the whole franchise hints it well enough. This means official text saying it's a legendary, side games with extraordinary plots related to Phione, whether or not it will protagonize a hosou or a story arc, whether or not it will be a bonus Poké Ball in Super Smash Bros. Brawl... IDK... Stuff like that. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 22:44, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Before continuing with the edit war on the Trivia section, I must say I agree with Missingno. Master on removing that line from the Trivia section which says "Without using cheats or trading, Phione is the only legendary Pokémon that a player can have more that one of". The reason to put it back (as seen [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Phione_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&diff=next&oldid=255470 here]) is based just on the template. Such unability to say whether Phione is legendary or not only makes that line worthy of being removed IMO. Something can be an exception, but you can't tell if this one is. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 17:35, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:It's because I suck at reasons. XD; [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 17:37, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

If Pokemon.com says Phione is legendary, Phione is legendary! Phione is most likely considered legendary because it is '''of legend''' in the same way Mew and Arceus have legends surrounding them. I don't actually recall Nintendo or the Pokemon franchise explicitly state what the benchmark is for a legendary. The classifications for a legendary, (such as only one per game, high stats and inability to breed), were most likely assumed after the second Generation or so and were constatly reinforced with more legendaries fitting the criteria.
Maybe the classification has just been broken.

Phione is definately legendary but it's caused so much debate because it doesn't fit into the assumed criteria. [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 13:00, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Phione is a conundrum. I really don't think of it as legendary, as it is "legendary" the same way Rotom is. Rotom is rare and has the legendary music play, but reproduces more of its own kind with Ditto; Phione's breeding is exactly like Rotom's. It traces its lineage from legends but doesn't have the stats to match up. Mewtwo is considered legendary due to its "one-of-a-kind" status and immense power. I say Phione is more of an "Almost, but not quite Legendary" pokemon, as it basically lacks that one special (probably yellow) element or essence that Manaphy has that makes it legendary. So, I think it's not like Phione is a demotion to borderline-legendary status, I think it's more like Manaphies being "Chosen Phiones" who are more powerful and pure (and legendary) as a result. This occasional legendary status isn't passed down from this special "Phione", and thus its children are normal Phiones. I don't think this debate would be so hectic if breeding wasn't the only way to obtain Phione. I say Phione belongs in the same category as Rotom as far as legendary status is concerned (Which is no) That's actually not a bad theory, that Manaphy are stronger Phione rather than Phione being weaker Manaphy. [[User:Kohdok|Kohdok]] 08:53, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

:Phione isn't a legendary. Multiple Phione can be bred from Manaphy. Multiple Phione can be bred from Phione. Also, its base stats aren't very high. I don't know why its banned from the Battle Tower, but likely because they are too delicate for competitive battling. [[User:Dusknoir477|Dusknoir477]] 09:13, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

"Phione is a legendary because it can be obtained by breeding a [[Manaphy]], and Manaphy is a legendary. Yes, it is a baby pokemon, but it's cool that a [[baby pokemon]] is a legendary. The only reason it's band from the [[Battle Frontier]] is because it IS A LEGENDARY!!!!! (duh) --[[User:Platinum giratina13|Platinum giratina13]] 21:44, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

As per my above post, has anyone actually read or heard Nintendo state what actually MAKES a Legendary a Legendary? With the arrival of the Phione/Manaphy legendary debate, the assumed criteria of not being able to breed, one-of-a-kind-ness, and high stats would technically be outdated as Phione and Manaphy are confirmed legenderies.
Accoriding to the "new" rules, the only criteria for a legendary to be legendary is for Nintendo to say it's legendary! END OF STORY! [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 20:05, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Phione is not legendary. However, evolution cannot be the only criteria because when togepi was introduced it was considered to be legendary but it now is part of a three-tier evolutionary line. {{unsigned|Mtn otter}}

== Baby Pokemon? ==
Is it really ok to designate it as a Baby? It really doesn't fit any of the criteria of a Baby Pokemon. I mean it can breed, and to my understanding, Phione isn't a pre-evolution of Manaphy (As exemplified by the fact that it can't ever evolve into it. >_>) so much as a Manaphy that was bred in colder waters. --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 04:18, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

It's not a baby Pokémon. Baby Pokémon evolve and can't breed. Phione breeds and can't evolve. --
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 14:06, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

== This... Egg move... ==

Okay, weeks ago I taught my Manaphy the move {{m|Waterfall}}, and I recently got a Ditto. Today, when my first Phione hatched from its Egg, guess what? It knew Waterfall!! But why in the world no Pokémon site mentions it? Not even [http://www.legendarypokemon.net Legendary Pokémon], the first people to publicly hack the game, talk of this. Maybe now that Manaphy was given away in an easier way, more people can help me confirming this (maybe it's an in-game bug or something? Or some game mechanics that have been overlooked?).

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Please do discuss. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 02:18, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

It's an HM. That's why. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ 02:20, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:Oh... Does it always happen with babies and HM moves then? ^_^' And why isn't it valid to place it in the learnset lists? Is it because it's "obvious"? --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 03:26, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, and yes. It's listed under... breeding... i think. [[User:Inker|Inker]] 21:58, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
:Always happens with compatible HMs and TMs. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:06, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
:They grow up so fast. {{unsigned|Mtn otter}}

== Pssssst ==

Well well well, I just checked Pokemon.com and they just said Phione is indeed, not legendary. Aww shoot, I totally thought it was. Go to the mailbag. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 04:09, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:does that mean i can use it in the PBR little cup? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:21, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
::No because all the Pokémon you use have to be a pre-evolution of another Pokémon. And since Phione doesn't evolve well... --'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]''' '''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]''' 04:26, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:::oh well. its not like i have PBR anyway. (oh the irony!!) '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:27, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, I absolutely HATE to say I told you so.... But what the heck! I told you so! =D --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 11:40, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:Ah, contradiction. [http://www.pokemon.com/#mailbag_02042008 This] is also from Pokemon.com's mailbag, saying that Phione ''is'' legendary. // [[User talk:Szayel Aporro|'''''SzayelAporroGranz''''']] 19:22, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
WHAT?! This is impossible! Why would they change their answer??? HOW can something with Glalie's base stats be legendary?! --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 20:02, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:Yessss! I totally thought Phione was legendary, I mean, it IS related to one anyway. Anyway, no more fricking revert/edit wars now. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 20:14, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Why are you so happy? Phione breaks all the laws of legendaries- it can breed, it has bad stats, you can have more than one of them in PMD2... This upsets me, because all my carefully reasoned arguements, which by all rights should've been right, have been proven wrong! Plus, this means that if I use Phione in competitive battle, I'll be breaking my own rule of no legendaries. D< --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 20:18, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe because I actually THOUGHT Phione was a legendary? There's a word that you might want to hear about-- Exceptions. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 20:20, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
But how can Phione be an exception to EVERY SINGLE RULE THAT DEFINES A LEGENDARY, AND STILL BE A LEGENDARY?! '''IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.''' --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 20:22, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
::Yea, it says here http://www.pokemon.com/#mailbag_02042008 that it is legendary....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:47, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Lol yeah, we reverted the 'non-legendary' things a while ago. *points up to Szayel's post* [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:49, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Let's not forget that there was never a specific "rule" that said legendaries couldn't do what Phione does. After all, Latios and Latias didn't break the legendary genderless rule, they were merely the first legendaries with genders. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 08:58, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Plus, Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres were sort of confirmed to lay eggs in [[Pokemon Snap]], though I'm not sure if that counts or not.

~~Weedle_McHairybug~~

I recall an episode, no, three episodes of ''Pokémon: Master Quest'' where Ash encountered a Lugia and a baby Lugia. Does that mean Legendary Pokémon can have babies, in this case Manaphy getting Phione? [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 18:51, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:Some Legendaries have been shown to breed outside of the main series, like the three Birds in ''Snap''. But Phione is not a baby Manaphy because it can never become a Manaphy. Perhaps if one were to breed a Manaphy in Fiore then one would get another Manaphy egg. Of course, Manaphy eggs can't appearantly hatch in Fiore. This is all speculation, of course. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

But Phione can get another Phione as a baby.[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 02:36, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, but you can also breed a Magnemite to get another Magnemite. That doesn't classify it as a baby Pokémon. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 13:44, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, the classification of "Baby Pokémon" is that they're too young to breed. I forgot that until now.[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 14:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Just a thought: I still don't feel naming Phione a legendary Pokémon for a reason like that (the mailbox from Pokémon.com) is enough. What about Japanese denominations (densetsu, maboroshi, shinwa)? Which one is Phione? Bulbapedia is an output from us, but it's an input to many people. Saying Phione is a legendary because of that may be unhelpful if players organize battles or even trades where "legendaries aren't allowed" and they want to believe in this article instead of believing in sites that base themselves on stats and stuff. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 20:33, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

An excellent point. How do we know Pokemon.com is correct? They changed their answer once before, which could indicate that they themselves don't have any idea, and are just guessing. Really, the only ones who'd know for sure are the creators themselves, the ones who actually came up with Phione. We can't count on Pokemon.com to know what the creators were thinking. So I'd say Phione's legendary status would still be uncertain. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 14:26, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

:I think that given its place in the Pokédex and how it was required to have a Legendary Pokémon to obtain should be enough proof. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:37, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, so Dratini, Dragonair, and Dragonite are legendaries, because they're squeezed in between the bird trio and Mewtwo, are they? They are according to your logic. And secondly, just because a legendary Pokemon breeds to make a different species altogether, doesn't mean that the different species is also a legendary. Now, if Phione was unable to breed and had better stats, I would think it's a legendary. But anything with base stats equal to Glalie's and the ability to breed with Ditto like crazy? I mean, isn't the whole thing behind legendaries the fact that they're supposed to be HARD TO GET? And Phione can frickin' breed! Nintendo's never let us get more than one of each legendary per game w/o trading. Alright, here is, as I percieve it, the main points in the Phione Legendary Argument;
Phione must be legendary because;
*It is bred from another legendary
*Its position in the Pokédex
*Genderless
Phione CAN'T be a legendary because;
*Its stats are mediocre at best
*It can breed, and therefore more than one per game cart can be easily obtained

And two of the points that say it's legendary I have already shot down. The Dragonite, Tyranitar, and Metagross families are squeezed between legendaries, and does that make them legendaries? No, it does not! Does Phione's position in the Pokédex classify it as a legendary? Absolutely not! And maybe it is bred from another legendary- does that actually MEAN anything about Phione's legendary status? No! Mew was said to be the ancestor of all Pokémon, does that mean that every single Pokémon in existance is legendary? I didn't think so! And the stats! The one major consistancy about legendaries (aside from the whole can't breed thing) is their good stats. And Glalie's base stats are not good. Now then, based on that argument, I'd say Phione cannot in any way in any form, shape, or existance, be a legendary, and you'd be insane to think it is. Thank you and have a nice day. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 11:45, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

:The families you mentioned are not Legendary because they are ''families''. Phione does not evolve from or into another Pokémon. Don't be so stubborn... Phione is a Legendary, and [[MissingNo.]] isn't a real Pokémon. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:41, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

::Until recently, Roselia couldn't evolve into or from anything else. And don't drag MissingNo. into this. The fact that they are families means nothing. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 18:46, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

:::The fact that they are families means everything because Legendaries do not evolve. Which is why they can be surrounded by Legendary Pokémon in the Pokédex and not be considered. And you brought them up. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:04, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

::::Well, Rotom doesn't evolve and is oddly squeezed in between a bunch of evolutions and legendaries, and is it a legendary? Definitely not. Some people even thought it WAS a legendary for that reason (and the fact that legendary battle music played when it was battled), and yet, they were WRONG! Evolutions notwithstanding, the mere fact that there CAN be non-legendaries sandwiched between legendaries in the Pokédex means that Phione's position in said Pokédex doesn't mean a thing. And just because something doesn't evolve to or from anything doesn't mean it won't. Again, I point out Roselia as a prime example here. Dang thing got a pre-evo AND an evolution in the same generation! Now, I know Pokémon.com said that Phione is legendary, but they originally said it wasn't. The mere fact that they changed their answer indicates that they are doubtful. They could be guessing. Phione breaks the two cardinal rules that define legendaries; rarity (Phione can breed with Ditto to create more Phione), and strength (base stats of Glalie-not good). Legendaries are supposed to have at least DECENT base stats, and Phione's stats? Far from it. Most importantly, and this is the point most of you are overlooking, legendaries are supposed to be ONE PER GAME, sans trading/events. And Phione can BREED. Legendaries aren't SUPPOSED to reproduce in the games like this! That's why Phione was created in the first place-so Manaphy could lay eggs that hatched into something other than itself, so people wouldn't be running around with a *bleep*load of Manaphy on one game. Now THINK about that for a while, won't you? I propose that Phione's legendary status be labeled as "unconfirmed" until we get irrefutable proof of its legendary status (or lack thereof) by those who would know. Let's wait and see how the Anime portrays it, for example. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 10:52, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Cardinal rule that defines legendaries? There are none, and there hasn't been one that didn't get thrown out the window in the last two generations besides the fact that they can't evolve.
:::::Also, don't use Roselia for an example. Just because it can't evolve doesn't mean it's a legendary, but because Phione's legendary it cannot evolve. Squares and rectangles, you see. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:05, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Exactly. And I ''highly'' doubt that Manaphy will ever gain an evo or even a prevo. Rotom, on the other hand, is more likely. Besides, who ever said that base stats defined legendary status? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:48, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nobody... It's more of an intuitive meaning. Like, most Pokémon movies and major story arcs are protagonized by legendary Pokémon. In the anime, legendary Pokémon are "powerful". And non-coincidentally, their stats are high in the Pokémon games, which is an accurate meaning for "powerful". --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
::Doesn't mean they couldn't make a crappy legendary. As of Gen I, the rules were ONE PER GAME, HIGH STATS, and NO EVOLVING. Once Gen II rolled around we got NO GENDER and NO BREEDING. Gen III took down the ONE PER GAME thing since Brandon had the damned Regi and the NO GENDER thing with Lati@s. All Gen IV did was remove NO BREEDING and HIGH STATS, since Phione sucks. Well, actually, not really sucks, just isn't incredibly cheaply high. People want less legendaries, how the hell else are they going to do anything unless they gradually reduce legendaries into little more than normal Pokémon? Sheesh, Heatran has a variable gender! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:45, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Oh, sure, they COULD create a crappy legendary, but why would they? Legendary Pokémon have always been portrayed as powerful Pokémon that cannot breed. Legendary Pokémon are put up high on pedestals by those who create them. Legendaries sell movies. It's clear that the creators of Pokémon want the public to have a high opinion of legendaries, so why wreck it with a legendary that you can get a *bleep*load of in any given game, and that has less than decent stats? I don't think they would. Now, I want any one of you to list for me all the overwhelming reasons that prove beyond conclusive doubt that Phione is a legendary. Anyone? Nobody? OK, let me think here.... Oh, I know! Phione's bred from Manaphy! My goodness! Oh, how I must have been mistaken! Oh, Phione's bred from Manaphy! Son of cheese, that MUST mean it's legendary! Anyone who agreed with my last two sentences is a complete imbecile. For the love of Arceus, people, just because a Pokémon can be hatched from an egg that has been laid by a Legendary Pokémon doesn't mean that the offspring is legendary! Pichu hatch from eggs laid by Pikachu and Raichu, so does that make Pikachu and Raichu baby Pokémon? Of course not! Now, I want you people to think- just THINK- about it for a moment. Given the evidence I have presented, not just now, but over my entire career of arguing that Phione cannot be legendary, versus the single, measly fact that it can be bred from Manaphy, not to mention an entirely unconvincing letter from Pokémon.com (in which, may I remind you all, they changed their answer, indicating that they don't really know and are more than likely guessing), can you REALLY, in sound mind and complete sanity, STILL say, with the utmost conviction, that Phione is a legendary? DIDN'T THINK SO! OH, DUH! I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 01:29, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Phione is legendary... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 02:14, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:Phione's legendary status is debatable as we have not received word from the Jap creators. But still, Phione is legendary because it can ShoopWhoop. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:37 2 Jul 2008'''''
:If Phione's not legendary, neither is Manaphy. Neither is Mewtwo. Manaphy is hatched from an egg, it matters not that you can't dump it in the daycare and get more Manaphy. The reason FOR Phione is just that: they KNEW that after getting an egg with Manaphy people would try for more, breed with Ditto, and end up whining if it were like Mew or Celebi. So they made Phione to trick people. As for Mewtwo, it was created by humans. No legend there. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:13, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
And why do you think they did that with Manaphy in the first place? So people couldn't get more easily! Phione, on the other hand, can breed. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 14:15, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

:Which makes Phione the first legendary that can successfully breed. No one ever said that all legendaries have to fit into some definable category forever more. And the fact that it's stats are lacking is because it can breed. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:50, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

::YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT! The mere fact that Manaphy can breed, but not to create more Manaphy, indicates that legendaries aren't SUPPOSED to breed! As I've previously stated, if the fact that Manaphy can breed to make Phione is the only argument for Phione's legendary status, then it's a real feeble-ass argument, as, if Phione were indeed a legendary, then it would be the only legendary with breeding capabilities and mediocre stats, and I don't think that that's all that likely! Think about it! If they were going to make it so legendaries were breedable, there would be no Phione, and Manaphy could just lay more Manaphy eggs! OH DUH! I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 16:52, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

It was never set in stone that legendaries cannot breed and have to be one of a kind. If Nintendo and Game Freak want to make a sub-par legendary, then SO BE IT!!! Obviously the person who stated that Phione was not legendary was mistaken, and they corrected that mistake. Things change. Nothing has to be the exact same every generation. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:26, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

:OK, what you're saying WOULD make a lot of sense, if it didn't indicate that you never actually comprehended my arguments. THINK! If Nintendo and Game Freak wanted to create a breedable legendary at all, Phione wouldn't even exist, as the only reason they made it was that Manaphy could lay eggs without them hatching into more Manaphy! They would've just made Manaphy able to produce more Manaphy eggs! But they didn't! They made Manaphy able to breed a completely different species, and THAT species can breed, and it can't evolve into Manaphy. You know what this means? LEGENDARIES ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BREED, AND PHIONE IS LIVING PROOF! Now I agree, they COULD make a sub-par legendary. My point, however, is, WHY WOULD THEY? Look at the movies- legendary Pokémon are constantly spoken of with reverence, portrayed as grand, majestic, powerful, and rare, depictions that hold true in the games. Now, do you REALLY think that they'd besmirch the good name of legendaries, which they have worked so hard to glorify, by creating a legendary as common as Bidoof and as weak as Glalie? DIDN'T THINK SO! And before anyone replies to this, why don't you actually READ what I type, and let it sink in, let the gears of reason start turning in your head, and don't just come up with another lame excuse of an excuse as to why Phione is STILL legendary, despite all my well-reasoned arguments proving otherwise. Thank you. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 11:27, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

::<<sigh>>... The games and the movies are made by different people and follow completely different canon. According to the anime, Unown are legendary and powerful. Plus, who's to say that you can't produce more Manaphy eggs in a future generation? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:15, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

:::Missingno. Master, I don't really think that the Games even held Legendaries as being high, majestic, and one of a kind. If they had, Brandon would NOT have had the three Golems OR the three Birds (the former of which can ALSO be caught in the wild), Palmer would NOT have owned Heatran, Cresselia, and Regigigas. Also, I won't get too spoilerific, but in Movie 11, let's just say that Shaymin isn't the only one of it's kind (Then again, considering the same event that Shaymin debuted in had a similar white rock located in Kanto (not to mention it being obtained in Almia), it was also hinted that it wasn't really one of a kind there either.). And anyways, even IF you can't breed Manaphies from Manaphies in Sinnoh, the mere fact that it HAD an egg proves that it can breed from another Manaphy, which would hint that, by your logic, it's not even a legendary. Also, the three dogs, Rayquaza, Groudon, Kyogre, Celebi, Mew, and Deoxys wouldn't have multiple members in Fiore (If Manaphy is counted as an official Main Legendary despite originating from a Spinoff game, then I'm going to count Fiore as a main game region as well.). the three dogs, Lugia, and Ho-Oh would ALSO have not appeared in Kanto/Sevii Islands if that was the case. heck, the three dogs, Ho-Oh, Lugia, the three birds, and Celebi would NOT have existed in Orre at all if they were one of a kind. The three Regis would ALSO have not existed in Sinnoh at ALL if legendaries were truly one of a kind. So please stop acting as though they shouldn't have multitudes. In fact, the only legendary pokemon that HASN'T had multitudes period is Mewtwo itself. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 11:06, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
::::But, the fact still remains that in the games, legendaries are supposed to be one per cartridge. Manaphy itself is proof of this- if legendaries weren't intended to be one per cartridge, Phione wouldn't exist, as Manaphy would be able to produce more Manaphy. That's why Phione exist- to prevent Manaphy from breeding more Manaphy. And Phione are certainly NOT one per cartridge, as anyone with a Phione, a Ditto, and access to a daycare center can easily get as many Phione as they wish. And then there is the matter of its stats. Legendary Pokemon are powerful. They have good stats. They can learn Hyper Beam and other powerful moves. Phione has base 80 stats all around and can't learn Hyper Beam or any variant. It has no exclusive move (true, not all legendaries do). It doesn't even learn all the moves Manaphy can. And it doesn't learn ANY move Manaphy can't. True, this does not conclusively prove Phione to not be legendary, but it certainly lends a hefty amount of support towards that side of the issue. Certainly more than "It's bred from Manaphy, it must be legendary". - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 02:34, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::I can come up with better. It says so right there on Pokemon.com. Yes, I get that they corrected the answer. You're just reading into WHY it was. It's a wild guess, but I'm betting that the IT person who updates the website isn't intricately connected with anyone who makes or translates the games. He tried to answer it on his own, did it incorrectly, and was corrected. Either way, if you have a better source than POKEMON.COM that that says it isn't a legendary, I'd like to see it.
::::::As for all this talk about "Legends are this, legends are that", none of it is true. The only requirement to be a "Legendary Pokemon" is to be deemed one by Game Freak. What moves they learn are largely irrelevant, because many Pokemon have vast move pools. Gen 3 and 4 often have Legends as Plot Devices, but it doesn't hold true to Gen I, II, and those that are exclusive to events.[[User:Randomspot555|Randomspot555]] 22:06, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't know why the so-called MissigNo. Master is so upset that Phione is a legendary! I could say more reasons why it is I just don't want to, and some of them are already said, becasue it's so obvious! It is!!! DEAL WITH IT! Now, another reason nobody has said or at least so far I've read, it makes no sense to make a legendary Pokémon to breed ''into''(I don't know which preposition goes here) a not-legendary one. That's just not logic!, I mean, we all know Manaphy IS legendary right, then why would it be able to bread (into another species, anyway) into a not legendary?? MAKES NO SENSE, it is legendary despite its "bad stats", ability to breed and it doesn't evolve, even into the species it can come from, etc..

Would other legendary breed (if more could) into a not-legendary one? for example a Moltres if it could breed together with Ditto... you think the baby would be a, say, Growlithe? Of course not, It would be, I don't know, a new species, or another Moltres and it would still be a legendary.

Pokémon is in constant change, they created a new kind of legendary, maybe the only one of its kind -that can breed-, or at least so far, who says that maybe in next generations more and new legendaies will not be able to breed?? Maybe they would! People really need to start THINKING about the logic in here, and the BIG, really big POSIBILITY that it could be a legendary!--[[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 18:38, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

:Reviving this argument, I will just have what I hope to be my final say in this. Thus far, here are the facts:

Phione must be legendary because;
*It is bred from another legendary
*Its position in the Pokédex
*Genderless
*Pokémon.com said so

Phione CAN'T be a legendary because;
*Its stats are mediocre at best
**Legendaries have stats that are decent at the least.
*Inordinate amounts of them appeared in the anime, more than any legendary.
**It's rare to see more than one of any given species of legendary in the anime, let alone in the same episode. No less than six appeared in [[DP113]].
*It can breed, and therefore more than one per game cart can be easily obtained
**It's a well-known fact that legendaries are supposed to be one per game cart, outside of trading.

The points in the "Phione must be legendary" column are <strike>full of crap</strike> inconclusive because;
*Manaphy can breed to create Phione for the sole purpose of preventing the breeding of more Manaphy, which right there proves that legendaries are not supposed to breed. See, if legendaries were supposed to breed, Phione wouldn't even exist, as Manaphy would be able to create more of itself.
*Dratini, Larvitar, and their evolutions are sandwiched in between groups of legendaries in most Pokédex entries, and they're not legendaries.
*Voltorb, Magneton, Baltoy, Metang, and Rotom are all genderless. None of them are legendary.
*Pokémon.com also said that Shaymin's Sky Forme had Natural Cure, that Swallow was a new attack for Generation IV, and that there was a Staraptor in Jumping Rocket Ship. Also, the fact that they changed their answer denotes unsureness.

Now, let me get this through to you. I will say this once, and only once. I will only back down from my argument if, and only if, Satoshi Tajiri ''himself'' personally declares that Phione is a legendary. That, in my opinion, is the only source that will provide a definitive answer. I will accept nothing less. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] says: The [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] is real![[User talk: Missingno. Master|(talk page)]] 22:24, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:Pssssst. '''Legendary''' (''ˈlɛdʒənˌdɛri'') adj. '''1.''' of, pertaining to, or of the nature of a legend. // Phione is allegedly a bringer of good luck to those who see it; tourists flock to Chocovine just to get a glimpse of Phione. That hints at Phione being a rare Pokémon with uncommon abilities, both of which can be associated with a Pokémon of legend. [http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq41/PDLpics/23a814bea263b08a6dee29561e6906dae1d.gif] '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 22:40, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
::I am not getting mad at video games. I am getting mad at people mistaking Phione for a legendary. As for the anime, that actually proves nothing. In the anime, Phione are rare. In the anime, Metagross are damaged by Poison Tail. In the anime, wild Squirtle form troublemaking gangs. In the anime, Dustox can learn Stun Spore. In the anime, Geodude and Golem can be floored by Thunderbolt. In the anime, ahem, PIKACHU! AIM FOR THE HORN! In the games, Phione are easy to get. In the games, Metagross are unaffected by Poison Tail. In the games, there are no wild Squirtle. In the games, Dustox can't learn Stun Spore. In the games, no ground type can be harmed by Thunderbolt. My point being, the anime was made after the games, and do not necessarily need to conform to them. And they don't, in many cases. I admit, it was therefore wrong of me to drag the anime into this argument. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] says: The [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] is real![[User talk: Missingno. Master|(talk page)]] 22:50, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Just because you're too stubborn to admit that you're incorrect doesn't mean you're correct. <3 '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 23:06, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to drag up an old debate again, but I have another point that hasn't been mentioned yet and which crushes MM's arguments: If they didn't want Manaphies to breed Manaphies, then they wouldn't be breedable! --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 07:09, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

== Phione's advantages ==

* Does Phiones have any advantages that Manaphy doesn't have? If not, then what's the point? --[[User:Kid Sonic|Kid Sonic]] 00:13, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
:Irrelevant. Someone remove this. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 00:32, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
::That was rude. Now, in response to the question, Phione does not have any sort of advantage over Manaphy. All its stats are lower, and it doesn't learn any moves Manaphy can't. So no, there is no point other than keeping people from breeding multiple Manaphy. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:07, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
::Except they're not Manaphy. --[[User:Kid Sonic|Kid Sonic]] 05:03, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Exactly. It's there to piss you off because people would be all "O LOL I HAS MANAFY FROM EGG I PUT DAYCARE IT MAKE MOAR MANAFY I PUT ON GTS AND GET MEWTOO". And then you get Phione. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:14, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Random Something Thinks I ==

Why is Phione not in the No eggs group if it's genderless.{{u|Laxafett}}19:41, 18 December 2008(UTC)
:Because it has those egg groups in the game's internal data. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 19:48, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

== Battle Tower ==
I didn't see anyone mention this, surprisingly. But doesn't the fact that it can't be used in the battle tower (or any Frontier facility I'm assuming) prove it's legendary? Every other Pokemon restricted from being used there is a Legendary Pokemon... '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 21:46, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:Probably more because it's semi-event-exclusive, methinks. Not all legendaries are banned from there. All event-exclusive species are banned from there, however. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 21:47, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
::It's true that not all legendaries are banned, but I didn't say that anyway :p I said that all Pokemon that are banned are legendary. The converse isn't true though, as you so pointed out. However, the Aura Sphere-using Riolu from Ranger is also an Event Pokemon and it isn't banned, so there's a hole in your theory. '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 22:53, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I said event-exclusive SPECIES, and for exactly that reason. Riolu can easily be obtained outside an event. Phione, not so much. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:55, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

== Once and for all ==

As has been pointed out before and confirmed on Pokemon.com, Phione is a legendary Pokemon. If anyone has a more reliable source that says otherwise, such as a direct interview with someone in the franchise, please present it. Otherwise, I can't see how the debate can continue. Pokemon.com says so, and no one else has any other sources that say otherwise. Note that I only changed the intro paragraph. The trivia section already reflected it's legend status, and the page on Legendary Pokemon say it's a legend also. [[User:Randomspot555|Randomspot555]] 04:38, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

YES! Finally! Everybody knew it was in fact legendary. [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 19:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Legendary Status has been officially revoked. ==

From the Vol. 1, Pg.27 of the official Pokemon HeartGold & SoulSilver Version guide book: "Since Phione can be obtained by hatching Eggs, it is not classified as a Legendary Pokemon."

The guide book is published by [[The Pokémon Company International]], which is the same company that runs Pokemon.com, the website that originally confirmed it's Legendary status. Obviously they've changed their minds. --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 19:10, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
:''Well, well, well''. I was right the whole time! Now, I don't like to gloat.... Who am I kidding? I ''love'' to gloat! I was right, and you all were wrong! I'm off to change the page! - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 02:51, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::I think it is legendary. Why would the ''exact same'' company ban usage of it in VGC? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:53, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::For the exact same reason they banned Rotom until HG/SS came out. Event exclusive species (formes in Rotom's case). I knew it all along, the evidence was incontrovertible. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 02:58, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::::I still don't feel comfortable about this... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:59, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Oh, well. If the Pokémon Company International, the exact same company in charge of the official Pokémon website, says Phione is not legendary, then it's not legendary. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 03:01, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::They've been wrong before. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:03, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Two things: If TPCi says it's not legendary, how ''else'' are we going to get official confirmation? It's not legendary. There. lol
:::::::The other thing is... you don't need to rub it in everyone's face that you were right. Seriously. Cut it out. >_> ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 03:05, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::...I think I remember My Pokémon Ranch calling it legendary... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:09, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::The Trivia section mentions the conflicting sources, isn't that good enough? Seriously. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 03:11, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::No. See, this is more definitive proof. See, the website, well, they could change it on a whim. But if they were to change their minds and declare Phione a legendary, they'd have to do something about these guidebooks. So if they put in the guidebooks that Phione is not a legendary, they must have been sure about it. Besides which, the conflicting online source no longer exists. If there are no further objections (that contain actual reasoning, not just moaning and whining from people who are just upset that they've been wrong the whole time), I will go ahead and unhide that bit in the intro to the article. It's been a pleasure winning this argument. In all seriousness, however, I am sorry if I came across as rude about this whole ordeal. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 14:27, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

(unindent) I don't see why we can't mention the controversy. If we're not going to cite our sources on a conflicted bit on information, we should at least bring out where it conflicts. That's what good reporting is about. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar{{#ifeq: |Night|_Night}}.png|Pokémon Dollar|link=Pokémon Dollar]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 23:55, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
:MM, the source still exists. Origin.pokemon.com. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 23:57, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
::Oh, so it does. Well, it still doesn't change the fact that a more recent source from the same company has something different. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 01:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:::People should really not forget that guidebooks aren't always correct. Some say things like Cascoon can only be obtained at night, so it could be an error [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 01:35, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::::OK... too much arguing here. First, I couldn't get origin.pokemon.com to work, much less access the mailbag... anyone care to put up a direct link to the specific mailbag that stated Phione's status? Also, I think that Phione should be considered not legendary as TPCI, the most official source in this matter other than TPC or the games themselves, has stated most recently (the HGSS guidebook) that it is not legendary. Arguments about "they could be wrong", "they couldn't be wrong", "they could sometime change their mind as they have before" are invalid, as they only serve to invalidate the other point of view whenever convenient. Its not an issue of the website or the guidebooks being more official, they are both equally official, but as the guidebook is the ''most recent'', Phione should be considered not legendary until TPCI or a more official source states otherwise. However, I believe that stating "it's not a legendary" in the lead of the article is unnecessary; we only put up when it ''is'' legendary, we do not go around and put up in every non-legendary's Pokémon article that it's not legendary.
::::That said, precisely because TPCI has contradicted itself before, and there have been numerous debates on this, I think an entire section explaining everything is in order, maybe under Trivia. I'd put it up in the article myself, but I don't wanna get into an edit war so I'll put it up here for everyone to approve/disapprove of first. Also, I think putting up dates the announcements were made might be necessary too. '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 04:24, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Keep this in mind: the guidebooks are written by idiots. They ''constantly'' screw stuff up and throw in their opinions, not Nintendo's, and their assumptions, not the game programming. It's said that Wurmple evolves depending on time, or on gender, and that was a persistent rumor during Gen III. But we ripped the games apart and verified that no, it's based on the PV. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:34, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::I want to point out here that the Media Factory guidebook (the one from which the English guidebook was translated) indeed states that Phione is not considered legendary. I can't be assed to take an actual picture, but [http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3330177/mfphione.jpg here have a blurry-as-hell webcam picture]. I assure you that it says exactly the same thing as in the English guidebook. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 04:59, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Then Manaphy isn't legendary either, I assume? And what of Unown? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Well, yes, the reasoning of "it's not legendary because it can breed" would exclude Manaphy as a legendary. Though Unown is a moot point, since the reasoning is not "every Pokémon that can't breed is a legendary"... But I digress. On the topic of the trustworthiness of the guides: yes, they have been inaccurate, but the site has contradicted itself also. My point is, they're both equally reliable (or unreliable). I mean, both are TPCI, or rather, people employed at TPCI who could make stuff up or make assumptions. So, we either take both as accurate (and the guide, as the most recent update, states how it is as of now) or neither, and therefore we CAN'T conclusively say Phione is or isn't a legendary. Now that I think of it, maybe that last one is for the best. '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 06:00, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

===Status as a legendary Pokémon===
When Phione was first discovered in the Pokémon games, there was much debate whether or not it should be considered as a [[legendary Pokémon]]. Some said it should be, citing its inability to evolve and its rarity (as it could only be bred initially from an already rare Manaphy), as well as its exclusive relationship to the indisputably legendary {{p|Manaphy}}. Others said it shouldn’t be considered legendary, mentioning its capacity to breed and be hatched from regular eggs, as well as its generally weak stats.
Even [[The Pokémon Company International]] has had conflicting announcements about Phione’s legendary status. Firstly, [[Pokemon.com]] mentioned in its mailbag that Phione was not a legendary Pokémon, but it was changed shortly thereafter, making Phione officially a legendary for a while. Recently, however, the official guidebook of {{2v|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, published also by TPCI, stated that Phione is not a legendary due to its ability to reproduce. Given that this is the latest official update on this Pokémon’s status, it is currently considered to not be a legendary Pokémon.

== Breeding ==
To keep consistency, doesn't Phione need a breeding section "By Breeding/None." I put it up bt someone deleted it >:( so do we need this section or not? It's on Rotom's and other other Pokes that can be obtained through breeding but have no egg moves. [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 01:42, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:Consistency is enjoyed. Plz to be putting it there. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:11, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry about that. I removed it because I thought I had seen other articles without a "by breeding" section. But I must have been wrong. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar{{#ifeq: |Night|_Night}}.png|Pokémon Dollar|link=Pokémon Dollar]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 22:30, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

== Legendary status ==

Thought I'd add this to the start of the article, to settle the legendary argument:

"Phione is considered by some to be a [[legendary Pokémon]]. However, due to the fact that it can breed and multiple individuals can be obtained, its legendary status remains disputed, with contradiction occuring even between official sources." [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 21:40, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

The new Pokémon Ranger game '''definitely''' confirms it as non-legendary. '''CASE CLOSED''' -'''[[User:Gengarzilla|I Liek Gengarz!]] [[User talk:Gengarzilla|Do Joo Liek Dem?]]''' 16:23, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
:It may not be referred to as legendary, but does it explicitly say Phione is ''not'' legendary? If not, then it is certainly not settled "once and for all". '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 08:17, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
::Black and White disagree it seems, as Phione is banned from the Battle Subway. The difference this time around? Zorua and Zoroark, also event Pokemon, are NOT banned, while Phione, despite being recently stated as non-legendary, is still banned. If someone can simply contact Game Freak themselves and not rely on a spin-off, THEN we can confirm it's status once and for all. Better to get the answer from it's original creator yes? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 00:40, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Zorua and Zoroark are slightly easier to get without an event, as you can merely trade for them over the GTS. If you talk to the silent boy in Hiun City, Zorua is recorded as "seen" in your Pokedex, and N uses a Zoroark, so you can search for them. Phione, on the other hand, cannot be seen in any games, and the only way to see Manaphy is to look at Backlot's book in Platinum. And even then there's no guarantee that anyone will trade you a Manaphy over the GTS. And seriously, Phione not being referred to as legendary or rare in Ranger:Guardian Signs when every legendary is? I'm pretty damn sure that can't be a coincidence. Please, let's not drag up this old argument again, as I still have my other valid points as to why Phione can't be legendary. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 00:45, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Honestly, until we get a confirmation directly from Game Freak themselves and not someone else saying it for them, Phione's status is still under debate it seems. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 00:47, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Besides it's not like Phione is breaking Metagames anytime soon unlike Zoroark with it's Illusion ability causing massive mind games..... Regardless of how it is found, Zoroark deserves a banning more than Phione in a way. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 00:49, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::Game Freak are unlikley to reply to any fan e-mails, even if sent in Japanese. But if Phione is confirmed as non-legendary, then a good bit of info for the Trivia section would be "Phione is the only non-legendary Pokemon not in any regional Pokedex." '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 00:53, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::I can be debated either way, but don't base if it's legendary or not based on Pokemon Ranger Games. Because according to Pokémon Ranger Celebi is not legendary it's "rare" :| [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 01:43, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Rare is still legendary. It's just that there are two kinds in Japanese "legendary" and "rare", which this game distinguishes between. Phione gets nothing as if it were a regular Pokémon (because it is). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:04, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Still.... I don't really like trusting spin-offs for this kind of information because sometimes they can make mistakes rather easily (Loads of places mislabel Wurmple's evolution as time based or gender based after all, with even the official site listing it incorrectly last time I checked the site years ago [Doesn't say evolution methods in the modern day site]). I think it's more of a safer opinion if we get an answer from Game Freak, even if they rarely answer, it still seems like a much better option as we can get the truth once and for all... [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 14:06, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Why is everyone making such a big deal out of this? In my opinion, Phione is a legendary Pokemon. However, I am not going to argue for or against it. All I have to say on this matter is this: 1. Since WHEN are side games the deciding factor on the status of the Pokemon.
2. The game does NOT say whether it is legendary or not.
Thus, I would never go so far as to base the status of this Pokemon on what the new ranger game says. I suggest we do not jump to conclusions and say flat out that it is not legendary. I say we just state that its status is disputed. Both sides of the argument have given ample evidence, but neither has any evidence that proves WITHOUT A DOUBT that they are right. I say we wait for an OFFICIAL statement on the matter. Till then, I'm not convinced either way (not that it matters). ([[User:Toolen|Toolen]] 03:00, 18 December 2010 (UTC))

On a side note, is their any way to contact Game Freak on this matter? ([[User:Toolen|Toolen]] 03:04, 18 December 2010 (UTC))
:Ample evidence? For: Pokémon.com mailbag entry (the whole mailbag has since been taken down). Against: Recent official HGSS game guide, Ranger GS. Game Freak would be highly unlikely to respond, even if we could contact them. The side game is not the sole proof, it's the tipping piece of evidence. Due to there no longer being any evidence to support it being legendary, and two pieces against, it is now considered not legendary. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:40, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:: Not to throw more wood onto the fire, but I noticed a user making this edit:

::"However, Director of GameFreak inc, Marc Parker, has stated that Phione is indeed a legendary after months of debating with Kacey Traver, the founder of http://www.smogon.com/"

:: What to make of this? --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 20:00, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
:::If we get a reliable source for that, I think we can change it back to being legendary. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:41, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

I've changed some of the wording in the article so it has a more neutral point of view; at this stage we can't really prove if Phione is legendary or not. If all official sources gave the same answer then of course the article could contain that information, but as the official sources contradict each other, it's best just not to say either way. Although Ranger does seem like the best source to go by, it's still not set in stone, and to say that Phione is not currently classed as legendary is still only Bulbapedia's opinion. Marc Parker's statement would be a good addition to the Trivia section if we can find a reference. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 19:55, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

== Just saying... ==
Phione is in the list of banned Pokémon from the official video game championship. The list only include legendary Pokémon, so... --[[User:SamuStar|SamuStar]] 17:19, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
:Or it is the only non-legendary Pokémon listed. Banlists are indications but not proof. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:21, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
::It's likely because Phione is technically event-only.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 15:53, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
and what about Zorua and Zoroark? They aren't banned --[[User:SamuStar|SamuStar]] 16:29, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Hey guys. I'm new. I have an idea. Phione could be semi-legendary! You know, like in Greek if a god has babies with a mortal, there's a demigod? It makes sense! [[User:Cela08|Cela08]] 16:10, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
:Pokémon aint based on greek in any major way -.- [[User:Jyles|Jyles]] ([[User talk:Jyles|talk]]) 21:37, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
::Did he say Pokemon was based on Greek? No. He said you could GIVE it a title based of a greek title. Not that it had one.[[User:Chris Broach|Chris Broach]] ([[User talk:Chris Broach|talk]]) 23:39, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

== Useless part removed ==

I removed this thing: "though it is placed directly before the [[legendary birds]] in the [[Oblivia Browser]], and cannot be obtained until the game is completed.". It doesn't mean anything: first, the Browser position is irrelevant, given the fact that we don't consider Rotom's position in the National Pokédex; secondly, it's true that it's only found after clearing the main quest, but this applies also to normal Pokémon such as Blastoise and Heracross. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 12:25, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

== Inconsistency ==

I know it was settled above that Phione's Status as a legerendary are disputed and it will be put on the hold until a real source appears, however in several pages, like the Generation V page, Battle Frontier Generation IV, and some others that say Phione is classified as a non-legendary, not mentioning its '''disputed''' status. This is becoming contradictory, since the trivia in Pokémon breeding and Manaphy pages mention Phione being legendary disputed with the *. The Trivia in those other pages should be changed also, because the trivia would be 50 percent wrong (Generation IV having the same number of legendaries with V{{tt|*|With Genenation IV having more if Phione is considered legendary}}; it, Spiky eared Pichu being non-legendaries not able in the facilities{{tt|*|with the latter full confirmed non-legendaries}}) if it is put that away and 100 percente clear with the * disputed.

I think what is important it's not note that Phione being or not legendary, but yes the fact that it can be as is a relative to one. --[[User:Igor Castro Chucre|Igor ]] ([[User talk:Igor Castro Chucre|talk]]) 14:09, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
:They should be changed to mention that its legendary status is disputed, yes. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:27, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
::And its non-legendary status is also disputed. --[[User:Igor Castro Chucre|Igor ]] ([[User talk:Igor Castro Chucre|talk]]) 14:39, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

== Black (2) and White (2) ==
Is it possible to get a Phione egg by breeding Manaphy (hatched from egg which was transferred from Platinum version) and a Ditto in Black/White and Black 2/White 2? Because I've been trying but it seems like they're not producing the egg. (as of yet) Or do I need leave them in the day care centre longer? Can someone please confirm this? --[[User:Chickensdoorknob|ℂℏɨ₡ƙ℮ᵰᵴ∂ⱺ☮яϰŊøɓ]] ([[User talk:Chickensdoorknob|talk]]) 01:45, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
:What does the Day Care man say about their relationship? As long as he doesn't say they prefer to play with other Pokémon, they will breed. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:02, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
::Ok thanks. I currently don't have my DS with me. But from memory, the day-care man said something like they don't get along very well. I'll try to confirm if they do produce a egg or not later on .--[[User:Chickensdoorknob|ℂℏɨ₡ƙ℮ᵰᵴ∂ⱺ☮яϰŊøɓ]] ([[User talk:Chickensdoorknob|talk]]) 03:25, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
:::They will still produce an Egg even if he says they don't get along, it just takes longer. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:52, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

== Pokedex says Warm Water but Cliones like it cold trivia notable? ==

Is it notable that Cliones (which seem to be what Phione is based on) live in cooler waters/climates (from what I have read so far) but all of Phione's Pokédex entries mention warm water? Also, just throwing this out there, but Manaphy's Diamond Pokédex mentions its born on a cold seafloor.

Just testing the waters here, before I add any trivia; no pun intended. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 17:04, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
:Phione is only based on cliones, it is not actually one. So there are going to be inconsistencies between the Pokémon and the actual creature. It's not notable to put in the trivia section. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 21:59, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

== The status dispute? ==

If Pokémon can be divided into 2 groups:
:1/ Legendary/Mythical Pokémon, with:
::1a/ Legendary Pokémon.
::1b/ Mythical Pokémon.
:2/ Other (non-Legendary, non-Mythical) Pokémon.
What exactly the dispute is about? Is it about people don't know which group Phione should fit:
:A/ Between group 1a and 1b?
:B/ Between group 1 and 2?
::If B is the correct answer, then which is true:
:::B0/ Amongst 1a, 1b, and 2?
:::B1/ Between 1a and 2?
:::B2/ Between 1b and 2?
Sorry, my English is bad, so I don't understand exactly the wording of the article. Can you please explain it to me? Thank you in advance! --[[User:Yen01|Yen01]] ([[User talk:Yen01|talk]]) 14:39, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
:It's between 1 and 2; if it's 1, it would clearly be 1b, so we can say the dispute is between 1b and 2. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 11:50, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
::Oh! Because it says "Phione's [[Phione_(Pokémon)#Legendary status|status]] as a [[Legendary Pokémon|Legendary]] or [[Legendary Pokémon|Mythical Pokémon]] is often disputed, with contradiction occurring even between official sources" at the first part of the article, so I thought it is between 1a and 1b. Anyway, thank you very much! --[[User:Yen01|Yen01]] ([[User talk:Yen01|talk]]) 16:14, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
:::You're welcome :) I agree it was not so clear, now it only says "Mythical Pokémon" since it's clear it would be Mythical if it's "legendary". [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 17:02, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
::::The problem is that at the time Phione's status was referred to officially, English language materials did not distinguish between "Legendary" and "Mythical" and simply called both "Legendary". Since Phione is related to Manaphy, if anything it would be Mythical. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 17:09, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::This [https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/GYRH6RJ survey] strongly implies Phione is not a Mythical Pokémon. The question says "Which of these are your favorite Mythical Pokémon? (Choose your top 3.)", and includes every Mythical Pokémon, but not Phione or Deoxys.--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:21, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::So what exactly is the dispute ''after all''? I'm getting confused ''again''. If Phione may ''not'' be Mythical, what it ''should'' be: Legendary, or neither? Or we don't know for sure? Or the dispute was ''not'' about its Mythical status ''right in the first place?'' --[[User:Yen01|Yen01]] ([[User talk:Yen01|talk]]) 04:08, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::::The dispute is whether or not Phione is Mythical. It is known that it is not Legendary. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:52, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
(resetting indent) I think this dispute will never end. Phione is allowed in the Circle of Legends tournament, so it is Legendary or Mythical; "Mythical" seems to refer to event-only Pokémon, hence the fact that Deoxys isn't one of them (as stated in the survey), since it is available during normal gameplay in ORAS.
But Phione is also not Mythical, as it is not mentioned in that survey; so is it Legendary? Or is this another of those contradicting proofs from official sources? [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 20:22, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

== Legendary Status ==

So, the Circle of Legends tournament - isn't this sufficient proof on its own? The description states that "only Legendary and Mythical Pokémon may be used", and the Japanese announcement explicitly states that Phione is allowed. This creates the syllogism: 1. Only Legendary and Mythical Pokémon are allowed in the tournament. 2. Phione is allowed in the tournament. Therefore, from 1. and 2. Phione is a Legendary or Mythical Pokémon.
It's not circumstantial; it's from an official first-party source; and the "evidence against" column consists of circumstantial evidence from a spin-off, a third-party source, and a statement based on a fan-assumed definition of legendary Pokémon. Oh, and there's quite a lot of circumstantial evidence to back up that it is legendary/mythical. [[User:Seafarer|Seafarer]] ([[User talk:Seafarer|talk]]) 22:59, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
:In the TPC survey, Phione is not mentioned in the list of Mythical Pokémon. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 20:17, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Phione (Pokémon)

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Shepeedy: /* The status dispute? */

==Phione- Legendary or not?==
Can phione really be considered a legendary? It is by no means limited to one a game cartridge as legendary Pokemon are, given that it can breed with Ditto as well as any Magnemite, Rotom, or Baltoy. It's base stats are the same as Glalie's. Which is NOT legendary. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in order to be a legendary, doesn't a Pokemon have to be only one per game without trading, and have at least SOMEWHAT good stats? {{unsigned|Missingno. Master}}
:In my opinion, it's okay the way this article puts it. It doesn't mention Phione being a legendary, yet it's in the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Sinnoh_Legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon legendary category] because it's related to Manaphy (and its Pokédex number is among legendaries). Kind of like an honorable mention in lists, but still not worth of mentioning a legendary status when talking about Phione itself. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:43, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
::Hmm... It's because of the criterion of mine I mentioned in the last paragraph that I didn't like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Phione_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&diff=142880&oldid=142060 this update]. I wonder if somebody agrees with me. Was it really necessary to mention that "it's still considered a legendary"? --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 00:30, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
:My opinion is that Phione is classed as a legendary Pokémon because of it's relation to Manaphy as Johans has said. Also, legendary Pokémon do not evolve. Phione does not evolve into Manaphy either therefore, it must have some legendary traits. [[User:Tesh|Tesh]]
:You know, I'd have to say Phione is best classified as legendary. It's a derivative of a legendary - more closely tied to a true legendary Pokémon than Mewtwo is to Mew. It's a black sheep of the lot, but still pretty legendary, I think. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 02:18, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
::What's the role of the Phione species in Mystery Dungeon 2? I still vote for never mentioning explicitly "Phione is a legendary" until the whole franchise hints it well enough. This means official text saying it's a legendary, side games with extraordinary plots related to Phione, whether or not it will protagonize a hosou or a story arc, whether or not it will be a bonus Poké Ball in Super Smash Bros. Brawl... IDK... Stuff like that. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 22:44, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Before continuing with the edit war on the Trivia section, I must say I agree with Missingno. Master on removing that line from the Trivia section which says "Without using cheats or trading, Phione is the only legendary Pokémon that a player can have more that one of". The reason to put it back (as seen [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Phione_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&diff=next&oldid=255470 here]) is based just on the template. Such unability to say whether Phione is legendary or not only makes that line worthy of being removed IMO. Something can be an exception, but you can't tell if this one is. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 17:35, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:It's because I suck at reasons. XD; [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 17:37, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

If Pokemon.com says Phione is legendary, Phione is legendary! Phione is most likely considered legendary because it is '''of legend''' in the same way Mew and Arceus have legends surrounding them. I don't actually recall Nintendo or the Pokemon franchise explicitly state what the benchmark is for a legendary. The classifications for a legendary, (such as only one per game, high stats and inability to breed), were most likely assumed after the second Generation or so and were constatly reinforced with more legendaries fitting the criteria.
Maybe the classification has just been broken.

Phione is definately legendary but it's caused so much debate because it doesn't fit into the assumed criteria. [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 13:00, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Phione is a conundrum. I really don't think of it as legendary, as it is "legendary" the same way Rotom is. Rotom is rare and has the legendary music play, but reproduces more of its own kind with Ditto; Phione's breeding is exactly like Rotom's. It traces its lineage from legends but doesn't have the stats to match up. Mewtwo is considered legendary due to its "one-of-a-kind" status and immense power. I say Phione is more of an "Almost, but not quite Legendary" pokemon, as it basically lacks that one special (probably yellow) element or essence that Manaphy has that makes it legendary. So, I think it's not like Phione is a demotion to borderline-legendary status, I think it's more like Manaphies being "Chosen Phiones" who are more powerful and pure (and legendary) as a result. This occasional legendary status isn't passed down from this special "Phione", and thus its children are normal Phiones. I don't think this debate would be so hectic if breeding wasn't the only way to obtain Phione. I say Phione belongs in the same category as Rotom as far as legendary status is concerned (Which is no) That's actually not a bad theory, that Manaphy are stronger Phione rather than Phione being weaker Manaphy. [[User:Kohdok|Kohdok]] 08:53, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

:Phione isn't a legendary. Multiple Phione can be bred from Manaphy. Multiple Phione can be bred from Phione. Also, its base stats aren't very high. I don't know why its banned from the Battle Tower, but likely because they are too delicate for competitive battling. [[User:Dusknoir477|Dusknoir477]] 09:13, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

"Phione is a legendary because it can be obtained by breeding a [[Manaphy]], and Manaphy is a legendary. Yes, it is a baby pokemon, but it's cool that a [[baby pokemon]] is a legendary. The only reason it's band from the [[Battle Frontier]] is because it IS A LEGENDARY!!!!! (duh) --[[User:Platinum giratina13|Platinum giratina13]] 21:44, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

As per my above post, has anyone actually read or heard Nintendo state what actually MAKES a Legendary a Legendary? With the arrival of the Phione/Manaphy legendary debate, the assumed criteria of not being able to breed, one-of-a-kind-ness, and high stats would technically be outdated as Phione and Manaphy are confirmed legenderies.
Accoriding to the "new" rules, the only criteria for a legendary to be legendary is for Nintendo to say it's legendary! END OF STORY! [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 20:05, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Phione is not legendary. However, evolution cannot be the only criteria because when togepi was introduced it was considered to be legendary but it now is part of a three-tier evolutionary line. {{unsigned|Mtn otter}}

== Baby Pokemon? ==
Is it really ok to designate it as a Baby? It really doesn't fit any of the criteria of a Baby Pokemon. I mean it can breed, and to my understanding, Phione isn't a pre-evolution of Manaphy (As exemplified by the fact that it can't ever evolve into it. >_>) so much as a Manaphy that was bred in colder waters. --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 04:18, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

It's not a baby Pokémon. Baby Pokémon evolve and can't breed. Phione breeds and can't evolve. --
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 14:06, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

== This... Egg move... ==

Okay, weeks ago I taught my Manaphy the move {{m|Waterfall}}, and I recently got a Ditto. Today, when my first Phione hatched from its Egg, guess what? It knew Waterfall!! But why in the world no Pokémon site mentions it? Not even [http://www.legendarypokemon.net Legendary Pokémon], the first people to publicly hack the game, talk of this. Maybe now that Manaphy was given away in an easier way, more people can help me confirming this (maybe it's an in-game bug or something? Or some game mechanics that have been overlooked?).

<blockquote>
===By [[breeding]]===

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{water color}};"
![[Generation IV]]
|-
| '''{{M|Waterfall}}'''
|}
</blockquote>

Please do discuss. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 02:18, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

It's an HM. That's why. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ 02:20, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:Oh... Does it always happen with babies and HM moves then? ^_^' And why isn't it valid to place it in the learnset lists? Is it because it's "obvious"? --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 03:26, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, and yes. It's listed under... breeding... i think. [[User:Inker|Inker]] 21:58, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
:Always happens with compatible HMs and TMs. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:06, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
:They grow up so fast. {{unsigned|Mtn otter}}

== Pssssst ==

Well well well, I just checked Pokemon.com and they just said Phione is indeed, not legendary. Aww shoot, I totally thought it was. Go to the mailbag. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 04:09, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:does that mean i can use it in the PBR little cup? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:21, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
::No because all the Pokémon you use have to be a pre-evolution of another Pokémon. And since Phione doesn't evolve well... --'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]''' '''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]''' 04:26, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:::oh well. its not like i have PBR anyway. (oh the irony!!) '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:27, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, I absolutely HATE to say I told you so.... But what the heck! I told you so! =D --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 11:40, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:Ah, contradiction. [http://www.pokemon.com/#mailbag_02042008 This] is also from Pokemon.com's mailbag, saying that Phione ''is'' legendary. // [[User talk:Szayel Aporro|'''''SzayelAporroGranz''''']] 19:22, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
WHAT?! This is impossible! Why would they change their answer??? HOW can something with Glalie's base stats be legendary?! --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 20:02, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:Yessss! I totally thought Phione was legendary, I mean, it IS related to one anyway. Anyway, no more fricking revert/edit wars now. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 20:14, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Why are you so happy? Phione breaks all the laws of legendaries- it can breed, it has bad stats, you can have more than one of them in PMD2... This upsets me, because all my carefully reasoned arguements, which by all rights should've been right, have been proven wrong! Plus, this means that if I use Phione in competitive battle, I'll be breaking my own rule of no legendaries. D< --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 20:18, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe because I actually THOUGHT Phione was a legendary? There's a word that you might want to hear about-- Exceptions. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 20:20, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
But how can Phione be an exception to EVERY SINGLE RULE THAT DEFINES A LEGENDARY, AND STILL BE A LEGENDARY?! '''IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.''' --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 20:22, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
::Yea, it says here http://www.pokemon.com/#mailbag_02042008 that it is legendary....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:47, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Lol yeah, we reverted the 'non-legendary' things a while ago. *points up to Szayel's post* [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:49, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Let's not forget that there was never a specific "rule" that said legendaries couldn't do what Phione does. After all, Latios and Latias didn't break the legendary genderless rule, they were merely the first legendaries with genders. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 08:58, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Plus, Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres were sort of confirmed to lay eggs in [[Pokemon Snap]], though I'm not sure if that counts or not.

~~Weedle_McHairybug~~

I recall an episode, no, three episodes of ''Pokémon: Master Quest'' where Ash encountered a Lugia and a baby Lugia. Does that mean Legendary Pokémon can have babies, in this case Manaphy getting Phione? [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 18:51, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:Some Legendaries have been shown to breed outside of the main series, like the three Birds in ''Snap''. But Phione is not a baby Manaphy because it can never become a Manaphy. Perhaps if one were to breed a Manaphy in Fiore then one would get another Manaphy egg. Of course, Manaphy eggs can't appearantly hatch in Fiore. This is all speculation, of course. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

But Phione can get another Phione as a baby.[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 02:36, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, but you can also breed a Magnemite to get another Magnemite. That doesn't classify it as a baby Pokémon. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 13:44, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, the classification of "Baby Pokémon" is that they're too young to breed. I forgot that until now.[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 14:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Just a thought: I still don't feel naming Phione a legendary Pokémon for a reason like that (the mailbox from Pokémon.com) is enough. What about Japanese denominations (densetsu, maboroshi, shinwa)? Which one is Phione? Bulbapedia is an output from us, but it's an input to many people. Saying Phione is a legendary because of that may be unhelpful if players organize battles or even trades where "legendaries aren't allowed" and they want to believe in this article instead of believing in sites that base themselves on stats and stuff. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 20:33, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

An excellent point. How do we know Pokemon.com is correct? They changed their answer once before, which could indicate that they themselves don't have any idea, and are just guessing. Really, the only ones who'd know for sure are the creators themselves, the ones who actually came up with Phione. We can't count on Pokemon.com to know what the creators were thinking. So I'd say Phione's legendary status would still be uncertain. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 14:26, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

:I think that given its place in the Pokédex and how it was required to have a Legendary Pokémon to obtain should be enough proof. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:37, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, so Dratini, Dragonair, and Dragonite are legendaries, because they're squeezed in between the bird trio and Mewtwo, are they? They are according to your logic. And secondly, just because a legendary Pokemon breeds to make a different species altogether, doesn't mean that the different species is also a legendary. Now, if Phione was unable to breed and had better stats, I would think it's a legendary. But anything with base stats equal to Glalie's and the ability to breed with Ditto like crazy? I mean, isn't the whole thing behind legendaries the fact that they're supposed to be HARD TO GET? And Phione can frickin' breed! Nintendo's never let us get more than one of each legendary per game w/o trading. Alright, here is, as I percieve it, the main points in the Phione Legendary Argument;
Phione must be legendary because;
*It is bred from another legendary
*Its position in the Pokédex
*Genderless
Phione CAN'T be a legendary because;
*Its stats are mediocre at best
*It can breed, and therefore more than one per game cart can be easily obtained

And two of the points that say it's legendary I have already shot down. The Dragonite, Tyranitar, and Metagross families are squeezed between legendaries, and does that make them legendaries? No, it does not! Does Phione's position in the Pokédex classify it as a legendary? Absolutely not! And maybe it is bred from another legendary- does that actually MEAN anything about Phione's legendary status? No! Mew was said to be the ancestor of all Pokémon, does that mean that every single Pokémon in existance is legendary? I didn't think so! And the stats! The one major consistancy about legendaries (aside from the whole can't breed thing) is their good stats. And Glalie's base stats are not good. Now then, based on that argument, I'd say Phione cannot in any way in any form, shape, or existance, be a legendary, and you'd be insane to think it is. Thank you and have a nice day. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 11:45, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

:The families you mentioned are not Legendary because they are ''families''. Phione does not evolve from or into another Pokémon. Don't be so stubborn... Phione is a Legendary, and [[MissingNo.]] isn't a real Pokémon. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:41, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

::Until recently, Roselia couldn't evolve into or from anything else. And don't drag MissingNo. into this. The fact that they are families means nothing. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 18:46, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

:::The fact that they are families means everything because Legendaries do not evolve. Which is why they can be surrounded by Legendary Pokémon in the Pokédex and not be considered. And you brought them up. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:04, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

::::Well, Rotom doesn't evolve and is oddly squeezed in between a bunch of evolutions and legendaries, and is it a legendary? Definitely not. Some people even thought it WAS a legendary for that reason (and the fact that legendary battle music played when it was battled), and yet, they were WRONG! Evolutions notwithstanding, the mere fact that there CAN be non-legendaries sandwiched between legendaries in the Pokédex means that Phione's position in said Pokédex doesn't mean a thing. And just because something doesn't evolve to or from anything doesn't mean it won't. Again, I point out Roselia as a prime example here. Dang thing got a pre-evo AND an evolution in the same generation! Now, I know Pokémon.com said that Phione is legendary, but they originally said it wasn't. The mere fact that they changed their answer indicates that they are doubtful. They could be guessing. Phione breaks the two cardinal rules that define legendaries; rarity (Phione can breed with Ditto to create more Phione), and strength (base stats of Glalie-not good). Legendaries are supposed to have at least DECENT base stats, and Phione's stats? Far from it. Most importantly, and this is the point most of you are overlooking, legendaries are supposed to be ONE PER GAME, sans trading/events. And Phione can BREED. Legendaries aren't SUPPOSED to reproduce in the games like this! That's why Phione was created in the first place-so Manaphy could lay eggs that hatched into something other than itself, so people wouldn't be running around with a *bleep*load of Manaphy on one game. Now THINK about that for a while, won't you? I propose that Phione's legendary status be labeled as "unconfirmed" until we get irrefutable proof of its legendary status (or lack thereof) by those who would know. Let's wait and see how the Anime portrays it, for example. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 10:52, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Cardinal rule that defines legendaries? There are none, and there hasn't been one that didn't get thrown out the window in the last two generations besides the fact that they can't evolve.
:::::Also, don't use Roselia for an example. Just because it can't evolve doesn't mean it's a legendary, but because Phione's legendary it cannot evolve. Squares and rectangles, you see. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:05, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Exactly. And I ''highly'' doubt that Manaphy will ever gain an evo or even a prevo. Rotom, on the other hand, is more likely. Besides, who ever said that base stats defined legendary status? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:48, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nobody... It's more of an intuitive meaning. Like, most Pokémon movies and major story arcs are protagonized by legendary Pokémon. In the anime, legendary Pokémon are "powerful". And non-coincidentally, their stats are high in the Pokémon games, which is an accurate meaning for "powerful". --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
::Doesn't mean they couldn't make a crappy legendary. As of Gen I, the rules were ONE PER GAME, HIGH STATS, and NO EVOLVING. Once Gen II rolled around we got NO GENDER and NO BREEDING. Gen III took down the ONE PER GAME thing since Brandon had the damned Regi and the NO GENDER thing with Lati@s. All Gen IV did was remove NO BREEDING and HIGH STATS, since Phione sucks. Well, actually, not really sucks, just isn't incredibly cheaply high. People want less legendaries, how the hell else are they going to do anything unless they gradually reduce legendaries into little more than normal Pokémon? Sheesh, Heatran has a variable gender! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:45, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Oh, sure, they COULD create a crappy legendary, but why would they? Legendary Pokémon have always been portrayed as powerful Pokémon that cannot breed. Legendary Pokémon are put up high on pedestals by those who create them. Legendaries sell movies. It's clear that the creators of Pokémon want the public to have a high opinion of legendaries, so why wreck it with a legendary that you can get a *bleep*load of in any given game, and that has less than decent stats? I don't think they would. Now, I want any one of you to list for me all the overwhelming reasons that prove beyond conclusive doubt that Phione is a legendary. Anyone? Nobody? OK, let me think here.... Oh, I know! Phione's bred from Manaphy! My goodness! Oh, how I must have been mistaken! Oh, Phione's bred from Manaphy! Son of cheese, that MUST mean it's legendary! Anyone who agreed with my last two sentences is a complete imbecile. For the love of Arceus, people, just because a Pokémon can be hatched from an egg that has been laid by a Legendary Pokémon doesn't mean that the offspring is legendary! Pichu hatch from eggs laid by Pikachu and Raichu, so does that make Pikachu and Raichu baby Pokémon? Of course not! Now, I want you people to think- just THINK- about it for a moment. Given the evidence I have presented, not just now, but over my entire career of arguing that Phione cannot be legendary, versus the single, measly fact that it can be bred from Manaphy, not to mention an entirely unconvincing letter from Pokémon.com (in which, may I remind you all, they changed their answer, indicating that they don't really know and are more than likely guessing), can you REALLY, in sound mind and complete sanity, STILL say, with the utmost conviction, that Phione is a legendary? DIDN'T THINK SO! OH, DUH! I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 01:29, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Phione is legendary... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 02:14, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:Phione's legendary status is debatable as we have not received word from the Jap creators. But still, Phione is legendary because it can ShoopWhoop. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:37 2 Jul 2008'''''
:If Phione's not legendary, neither is Manaphy. Neither is Mewtwo. Manaphy is hatched from an egg, it matters not that you can't dump it in the daycare and get more Manaphy. The reason FOR Phione is just that: they KNEW that after getting an egg with Manaphy people would try for more, breed with Ditto, and end up whining if it were like Mew or Celebi. So they made Phione to trick people. As for Mewtwo, it was created by humans. No legend there. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:13, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
And why do you think they did that with Manaphy in the first place? So people couldn't get more easily! Phione, on the other hand, can breed. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 14:15, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

:Which makes Phione the first legendary that can successfully breed. No one ever said that all legendaries have to fit into some definable category forever more. And the fact that it's stats are lacking is because it can breed. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:50, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

::YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT! The mere fact that Manaphy can breed, but not to create more Manaphy, indicates that legendaries aren't SUPPOSED to breed! As I've previously stated, if the fact that Manaphy can breed to make Phione is the only argument for Phione's legendary status, then it's a real feeble-ass argument, as, if Phione were indeed a legendary, then it would be the only legendary with breeding capabilities and mediocre stats, and I don't think that that's all that likely! Think about it! If they were going to make it so legendaries were breedable, there would be no Phione, and Manaphy could just lay more Manaphy eggs! OH DUH! I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 16:52, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

It was never set in stone that legendaries cannot breed and have to be one of a kind. If Nintendo and Game Freak want to make a sub-par legendary, then SO BE IT!!! Obviously the person who stated that Phione was not legendary was mistaken, and they corrected that mistake. Things change. Nothing has to be the exact same every generation. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:26, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

:OK, what you're saying WOULD make a lot of sense, if it didn't indicate that you never actually comprehended my arguments. THINK! If Nintendo and Game Freak wanted to create a breedable legendary at all, Phione wouldn't even exist, as the only reason they made it was that Manaphy could lay eggs without them hatching into more Manaphy! They would've just made Manaphy able to produce more Manaphy eggs! But they didn't! They made Manaphy able to breed a completely different species, and THAT species can breed, and it can't evolve into Manaphy. You know what this means? LEGENDARIES ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BREED, AND PHIONE IS LIVING PROOF! Now I agree, they COULD make a sub-par legendary. My point, however, is, WHY WOULD THEY? Look at the movies- legendary Pokémon are constantly spoken of with reverence, portrayed as grand, majestic, powerful, and rare, depictions that hold true in the games. Now, do you REALLY think that they'd besmirch the good name of legendaries, which they have worked so hard to glorify, by creating a legendary as common as Bidoof and as weak as Glalie? DIDN'T THINK SO! And before anyone replies to this, why don't you actually READ what I type, and let it sink in, let the gears of reason start turning in your head, and don't just come up with another lame excuse of an excuse as to why Phione is STILL legendary, despite all my well-reasoned arguments proving otherwise. Thank you. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 11:27, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

::<<sigh>>... The games and the movies are made by different people and follow completely different canon. According to the anime, Unown are legendary and powerful. Plus, who's to say that you can't produce more Manaphy eggs in a future generation? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:15, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

:::Missingno. Master, I don't really think that the Games even held Legendaries as being high, majestic, and one of a kind. If they had, Brandon would NOT have had the three Golems OR the three Birds (the former of which can ALSO be caught in the wild), Palmer would NOT have owned Heatran, Cresselia, and Regigigas. Also, I won't get too spoilerific, but in Movie 11, let's just say that Shaymin isn't the only one of it's kind (Then again, considering the same event that Shaymin debuted in had a similar white rock located in Kanto (not to mention it being obtained in Almia), it was also hinted that it wasn't really one of a kind there either.). And anyways, even IF you can't breed Manaphies from Manaphies in Sinnoh, the mere fact that it HAD an egg proves that it can breed from another Manaphy, which would hint that, by your logic, it's not even a legendary. Also, the three dogs, Rayquaza, Groudon, Kyogre, Celebi, Mew, and Deoxys wouldn't have multiple members in Fiore (If Manaphy is counted as an official Main Legendary despite originating from a Spinoff game, then I'm going to count Fiore as a main game region as well.). the three dogs, Lugia, and Ho-Oh would ALSO have not appeared in Kanto/Sevii Islands if that was the case. heck, the three dogs, Ho-Oh, Lugia, the three birds, and Celebi would NOT have existed in Orre at all if they were one of a kind. The three Regis would ALSO have not existed in Sinnoh at ALL if legendaries were truly one of a kind. So please stop acting as though they shouldn't have multitudes. In fact, the only legendary pokemon that HASN'T had multitudes period is Mewtwo itself. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 11:06, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
::::But, the fact still remains that in the games, legendaries are supposed to be one per cartridge. Manaphy itself is proof of this- if legendaries weren't intended to be one per cartridge, Phione wouldn't exist, as Manaphy would be able to produce more Manaphy. That's why Phione exist- to prevent Manaphy from breeding more Manaphy. And Phione are certainly NOT one per cartridge, as anyone with a Phione, a Ditto, and access to a daycare center can easily get as many Phione as they wish. And then there is the matter of its stats. Legendary Pokemon are powerful. They have good stats. They can learn Hyper Beam and other powerful moves. Phione has base 80 stats all around and can't learn Hyper Beam or any variant. It has no exclusive move (true, not all legendaries do). It doesn't even learn all the moves Manaphy can. And it doesn't learn ANY move Manaphy can't. True, this does not conclusively prove Phione to not be legendary, but it certainly lends a hefty amount of support towards that side of the issue. Certainly more than "It's bred from Manaphy, it must be legendary". - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 02:34, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::I can come up with better. It says so right there on Pokemon.com. Yes, I get that they corrected the answer. You're just reading into WHY it was. It's a wild guess, but I'm betting that the IT person who updates the website isn't intricately connected with anyone who makes or translates the games. He tried to answer it on his own, did it incorrectly, and was corrected. Either way, if you have a better source than POKEMON.COM that that says it isn't a legendary, I'd like to see it.
::::::As for all this talk about "Legends are this, legends are that", none of it is true. The only requirement to be a "Legendary Pokemon" is to be deemed one by Game Freak. What moves they learn are largely irrelevant, because many Pokemon have vast move pools. Gen 3 and 4 often have Legends as Plot Devices, but it doesn't hold true to Gen I, II, and those that are exclusive to events.[[User:Randomspot555|Randomspot555]] 22:06, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't know why the so-called MissigNo. Master is so upset that Phione is a legendary! I could say more reasons why it is I just don't want to, and some of them are already said, becasue it's so obvious! It is!!! DEAL WITH IT! Now, another reason nobody has said or at least so far I've read, it makes no sense to make a legendary Pokémon to breed ''into''(I don't know which preposition goes here) a not-legendary one. That's just not logic!, I mean, we all know Manaphy IS legendary right, then why would it be able to bread (into another species, anyway) into a not legendary?? MAKES NO SENSE, it is legendary despite its "bad stats", ability to breed and it doesn't evolve, even into the species it can come from, etc..

Would other legendary breed (if more could) into a not-legendary one? for example a Moltres if it could breed together with Ditto... you think the baby would be a, say, Growlithe? Of course not, It would be, I don't know, a new species, or another Moltres and it would still be a legendary.

Pokémon is in constant change, they created a new kind of legendary, maybe the only one of its kind -that can breed-, or at least so far, who says that maybe in next generations more and new legendaies will not be able to breed?? Maybe they would! People really need to start THINKING about the logic in here, and the BIG, really big POSIBILITY that it could be a legendary!--[[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 18:38, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

:Reviving this argument, I will just have what I hope to be my final say in this. Thus far, here are the facts:

Phione must be legendary because;
*It is bred from another legendary
*Its position in the Pokédex
*Genderless
*Pokémon.com said so

Phione CAN'T be a legendary because;
*Its stats are mediocre at best
**Legendaries have stats that are decent at the least.
*Inordinate amounts of them appeared in the anime, more than any legendary.
**It's rare to see more than one of any given species of legendary in the anime, let alone in the same episode. No less than six appeared in [[DP113]].
*It can breed, and therefore more than one per game cart can be easily obtained
**It's a well-known fact that legendaries are supposed to be one per game cart, outside of trading.

The points in the "Phione must be legendary" column are <strike>full of crap</strike> inconclusive because;
*Manaphy can breed to create Phione for the sole purpose of preventing the breeding of more Manaphy, which right there proves that legendaries are not supposed to breed. See, if legendaries were supposed to breed, Phione wouldn't even exist, as Manaphy would be able to create more of itself.
*Dratini, Larvitar, and their evolutions are sandwiched in between groups of legendaries in most Pokédex entries, and they're not legendaries.
*Voltorb, Magneton, Baltoy, Metang, and Rotom are all genderless. None of them are legendary.
*Pokémon.com also said that Shaymin's Sky Forme had Natural Cure, that Swallow was a new attack for Generation IV, and that there was a Staraptor in Jumping Rocket Ship. Also, the fact that they changed their answer denotes unsureness.

Now, let me get this through to you. I will say this once, and only once. I will only back down from my argument if, and only if, Satoshi Tajiri ''himself'' personally declares that Phione is a legendary. That, in my opinion, is the only source that will provide a definitive answer. I will accept nothing less. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] says: The [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] is real![[User talk: Missingno. Master|(talk page)]] 22:24, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:Pssssst. '''Legendary''' (''ˈlɛdʒənˌdɛri'') adj. '''1.''' of, pertaining to, or of the nature of a legend. // Phione is allegedly a bringer of good luck to those who see it; tourists flock to Chocovine just to get a glimpse of Phione. That hints at Phione being a rare Pokémon with uncommon abilities, both of which can be associated with a Pokémon of legend. [http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq41/PDLpics/23a814bea263b08a6dee29561e6906dae1d.gif] '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 22:40, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
::I am not getting mad at video games. I am getting mad at people mistaking Phione for a legendary. As for the anime, that actually proves nothing. In the anime, Phione are rare. In the anime, Metagross are damaged by Poison Tail. In the anime, wild Squirtle form troublemaking gangs. In the anime, Dustox can learn Stun Spore. In the anime, Geodude and Golem can be floored by Thunderbolt. In the anime, ahem, PIKACHU! AIM FOR THE HORN! In the games, Phione are easy to get. In the games, Metagross are unaffected by Poison Tail. In the games, there are no wild Squirtle. In the games, Dustox can't learn Stun Spore. In the games, no ground type can be harmed by Thunderbolt. My point being, the anime was made after the games, and do not necessarily need to conform to them. And they don't, in many cases. I admit, it was therefore wrong of me to drag the anime into this argument. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] says: The [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] is real![[User talk: Missingno. Master|(talk page)]] 22:50, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Just because you're too stubborn to admit that you're incorrect doesn't mean you're correct. <3 '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 23:06, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to drag up an old debate again, but I have another point that hasn't been mentioned yet and which crushes MM's arguments: If they didn't want Manaphies to breed Manaphies, then they wouldn't be breedable! --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 07:09, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

== Phione's advantages ==

* Does Phiones have any advantages that Manaphy doesn't have? If not, then what's the point? --[[User:Kid Sonic|Kid Sonic]] 00:13, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
:Irrelevant. Someone remove this. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 00:32, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
::That was rude. Now, in response to the question, Phione does not have any sort of advantage over Manaphy. All its stats are lower, and it doesn't learn any moves Manaphy can't. So no, there is no point other than keeping people from breeding multiple Manaphy. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:07, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
::Except they're not Manaphy. --[[User:Kid Sonic|Kid Sonic]] 05:03, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Exactly. It's there to piss you off because people would be all "O LOL I HAS MANAFY FROM EGG I PUT DAYCARE IT MAKE MOAR MANAFY I PUT ON GTS AND GET MEWTOO". And then you get Phione. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:14, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Random Something Thinks I ==

Why is Phione not in the No eggs group if it's genderless.{{u|Laxafett}}19:41, 18 December 2008(UTC)
:Because it has those egg groups in the game's internal data. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 19:48, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

== Battle Tower ==
I didn't see anyone mention this, surprisingly. But doesn't the fact that it can't be used in the battle tower (or any Frontier facility I'm assuming) prove it's legendary? Every other Pokemon restricted from being used there is a Legendary Pokemon... '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 21:46, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:Probably more because it's semi-event-exclusive, methinks. Not all legendaries are banned from there. All event-exclusive species are banned from there, however. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 21:47, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
::It's true that not all legendaries are banned, but I didn't say that anyway :p I said that all Pokemon that are banned are legendary. The converse isn't true though, as you so pointed out. However, the Aura Sphere-using Riolu from Ranger is also an Event Pokemon and it isn't banned, so there's a hole in your theory. '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 22:53, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I said event-exclusive SPECIES, and for exactly that reason. Riolu can easily be obtained outside an event. Phione, not so much. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:55, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

== Once and for all ==

As has been pointed out before and confirmed on Pokemon.com, Phione is a legendary Pokemon. If anyone has a more reliable source that says otherwise, such as a direct interview with someone in the franchise, please present it. Otherwise, I can't see how the debate can continue. Pokemon.com says so, and no one else has any other sources that say otherwise. Note that I only changed the intro paragraph. The trivia section already reflected it's legend status, and the page on Legendary Pokemon say it's a legend also. [[User:Randomspot555|Randomspot555]] 04:38, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

YES! Finally! Everybody knew it was in fact legendary. [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 19:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Legendary Status has been officially revoked. ==

From the Vol. 1, Pg.27 of the official Pokemon HeartGold & SoulSilver Version guide book: "Since Phione can be obtained by hatching Eggs, it is not classified as a Legendary Pokemon."

The guide book is published by [[The Pokémon Company International]], which is the same company that runs Pokemon.com, the website that originally confirmed it's Legendary status. Obviously they've changed their minds. --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 19:10, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
:''Well, well, well''. I was right the whole time! Now, I don't like to gloat.... Who am I kidding? I ''love'' to gloat! I was right, and you all were wrong! I'm off to change the page! - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 02:51, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::I think it is legendary. Why would the ''exact same'' company ban usage of it in VGC? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:53, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::For the exact same reason they banned Rotom until HG/SS came out. Event exclusive species (formes in Rotom's case). I knew it all along, the evidence was incontrovertible. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 02:58, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::::I still don't feel comfortable about this... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:59, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Oh, well. If the Pokémon Company International, the exact same company in charge of the official Pokémon website, says Phione is not legendary, then it's not legendary. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 03:01, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::They've been wrong before. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:03, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Two things: If TPCi says it's not legendary, how ''else'' are we going to get official confirmation? It's not legendary. There. lol
:::::::The other thing is... you don't need to rub it in everyone's face that you were right. Seriously. Cut it out. >_> ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 03:05, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::...I think I remember My Pokémon Ranch calling it legendary... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:09, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::The Trivia section mentions the conflicting sources, isn't that good enough? Seriously. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 03:11, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::No. See, this is more definitive proof. See, the website, well, they could change it on a whim. But if they were to change their minds and declare Phione a legendary, they'd have to do something about these guidebooks. So if they put in the guidebooks that Phione is not a legendary, they must have been sure about it. Besides which, the conflicting online source no longer exists. If there are no further objections (that contain actual reasoning, not just moaning and whining from people who are just upset that they've been wrong the whole time), I will go ahead and unhide that bit in the intro to the article. It's been a pleasure winning this argument. In all seriousness, however, I am sorry if I came across as rude about this whole ordeal. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 14:27, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

(unindent) I don't see why we can't mention the controversy. If we're not going to cite our sources on a conflicted bit on information, we should at least bring out where it conflicts. That's what good reporting is about. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar{{#ifeq: |Night|_Night}}.png|Pokémon Dollar|link=Pokémon Dollar]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 23:55, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
:MM, the source still exists. Origin.pokemon.com. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 23:57, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
::Oh, so it does. Well, it still doesn't change the fact that a more recent source from the same company has something different. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 01:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:::People should really not forget that guidebooks aren't always correct. Some say things like Cascoon can only be obtained at night, so it could be an error [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 01:35, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::::OK... too much arguing here. First, I couldn't get origin.pokemon.com to work, much less access the mailbag... anyone care to put up a direct link to the specific mailbag that stated Phione's status? Also, I think that Phione should be considered not legendary as TPCI, the most official source in this matter other than TPC or the games themselves, has stated most recently (the HGSS guidebook) that it is not legendary. Arguments about "they could be wrong", "they couldn't be wrong", "they could sometime change their mind as they have before" are invalid, as they only serve to invalidate the other point of view whenever convenient. Its not an issue of the website or the guidebooks being more official, they are both equally official, but as the guidebook is the ''most recent'', Phione should be considered not legendary until TPCI or a more official source states otherwise. However, I believe that stating "it's not a legendary" in the lead of the article is unnecessary; we only put up when it ''is'' legendary, we do not go around and put up in every non-legendary's Pokémon article that it's not legendary.
::::That said, precisely because TPCI has contradicted itself before, and there have been numerous debates on this, I think an entire section explaining everything is in order, maybe under Trivia. I'd put it up in the article myself, but I don't wanna get into an edit war so I'll put it up here for everyone to approve/disapprove of first. Also, I think putting up dates the announcements were made might be necessary too. '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 04:24, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Keep this in mind: the guidebooks are written by idiots. They ''constantly'' screw stuff up and throw in their opinions, not Nintendo's, and their assumptions, not the game programming. It's said that Wurmple evolves depending on time, or on gender, and that was a persistent rumor during Gen III. But we ripped the games apart and verified that no, it's based on the PV. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:34, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::I want to point out here that the Media Factory guidebook (the one from which the English guidebook was translated) indeed states that Phione is not considered legendary. I can't be assed to take an actual picture, but [http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3330177/mfphione.jpg here have a blurry-as-hell webcam picture]. I assure you that it says exactly the same thing as in the English guidebook. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 04:59, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Then Manaphy isn't legendary either, I assume? And what of Unown? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Well, yes, the reasoning of "it's not legendary because it can breed" would exclude Manaphy as a legendary. Though Unown is a moot point, since the reasoning is not "every Pokémon that can't breed is a legendary"... But I digress. On the topic of the trustworthiness of the guides: yes, they have been inaccurate, but the site has contradicted itself also. My point is, they're both equally reliable (or unreliable). I mean, both are TPCI, or rather, people employed at TPCI who could make stuff up or make assumptions. So, we either take both as accurate (and the guide, as the most recent update, states how it is as of now) or neither, and therefore we CAN'T conclusively say Phione is or isn't a legendary. Now that I think of it, maybe that last one is for the best. '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 06:00, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

===Status as a legendary Pokémon===
When Phione was first discovered in the Pokémon games, there was much debate whether or not it should be considered as a [[legendary Pokémon]]. Some said it should be, citing its inability to evolve and its rarity (as it could only be bred initially from an already rare Manaphy), as well as its exclusive relationship to the indisputably legendary {{p|Manaphy}}. Others said it shouldn’t be considered legendary, mentioning its capacity to breed and be hatched from regular eggs, as well as its generally weak stats.
Even [[The Pokémon Company International]] has had conflicting announcements about Phione’s legendary status. Firstly, [[Pokemon.com]] mentioned in its mailbag that Phione was not a legendary Pokémon, but it was changed shortly thereafter, making Phione officially a legendary for a while. Recently, however, the official guidebook of {{2v|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, published also by TPCI, stated that Phione is not a legendary due to its ability to reproduce. Given that this is the latest official update on this Pokémon’s status, it is currently considered to not be a legendary Pokémon.

== Breeding ==
To keep consistency, doesn't Phione need a breeding section "By Breeding/None." I put it up bt someone deleted it >:( so do we need this section or not? It's on Rotom's and other other Pokes that can be obtained through breeding but have no egg moves. [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 01:42, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:Consistency is enjoyed. Plz to be putting it there. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:11, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry about that. I removed it because I thought I had seen other articles without a "by breeding" section. But I must have been wrong. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar{{#ifeq: |Night|_Night}}.png|Pokémon Dollar|link=Pokémon Dollar]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 22:30, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

== Legendary status ==

Thought I'd add this to the start of the article, to settle the legendary argument:

"Phione is considered by some to be a [[legendary Pokémon]]. However, due to the fact that it can breed and multiple individuals can be obtained, its legendary status remains disputed, with contradiction occuring even between official sources." [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 21:40, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

The new Pokémon Ranger game '''definitely''' confirms it as non-legendary. '''CASE CLOSED''' -'''[[User:Gengarzilla|I Liek Gengarz!]] [[User talk:Gengarzilla|Do Joo Liek Dem?]]''' 16:23, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
:It may not be referred to as legendary, but does it explicitly say Phione is ''not'' legendary? If not, then it is certainly not settled "once and for all". '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 08:17, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
::Black and White disagree it seems, as Phione is banned from the Battle Subway. The difference this time around? Zorua and Zoroark, also event Pokemon, are NOT banned, while Phione, despite being recently stated as non-legendary, is still banned. If someone can simply contact Game Freak themselves and not rely on a spin-off, THEN we can confirm it's status once and for all. Better to get the answer from it's original creator yes? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 00:40, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Zorua and Zoroark are slightly easier to get without an event, as you can merely trade for them over the GTS. If you talk to the silent boy in Hiun City, Zorua is recorded as "seen" in your Pokedex, and N uses a Zoroark, so you can search for them. Phione, on the other hand, cannot be seen in any games, and the only way to see Manaphy is to look at Backlot's book in Platinum. And even then there's no guarantee that anyone will trade you a Manaphy over the GTS. And seriously, Phione not being referred to as legendary or rare in Ranger:Guardian Signs when every legendary is? I'm pretty damn sure that can't be a coincidence. Please, let's not drag up this old argument again, as I still have my other valid points as to why Phione can't be legendary. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 00:45, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Honestly, until we get a confirmation directly from Game Freak themselves and not someone else saying it for them, Phione's status is still under debate it seems. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 00:47, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Besides it's not like Phione is breaking Metagames anytime soon unlike Zoroark with it's Illusion ability causing massive mind games..... Regardless of how it is found, Zoroark deserves a banning more than Phione in a way. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 00:49, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::Game Freak are unlikley to reply to any fan e-mails, even if sent in Japanese. But if Phione is confirmed as non-legendary, then a good bit of info for the Trivia section would be "Phione is the only non-legendary Pokemon not in any regional Pokedex." '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 00:53, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::I can be debated either way, but don't base if it's legendary or not based on Pokemon Ranger Games. Because according to Pokémon Ranger Celebi is not legendary it's "rare" :| [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 01:43, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Rare is still legendary. It's just that there are two kinds in Japanese "legendary" and "rare", which this game distinguishes between. Phione gets nothing as if it were a regular Pokémon (because it is). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:04, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Still.... I don't really like trusting spin-offs for this kind of information because sometimes they can make mistakes rather easily (Loads of places mislabel Wurmple's evolution as time based or gender based after all, with even the official site listing it incorrectly last time I checked the site years ago [Doesn't say evolution methods in the modern day site]). I think it's more of a safer opinion if we get an answer from Game Freak, even if they rarely answer, it still seems like a much better option as we can get the truth once and for all... [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 14:06, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Why is everyone making such a big deal out of this? In my opinion, Phione is a legendary Pokemon. However, I am not going to argue for or against it. All I have to say on this matter is this: 1. Since WHEN are side games the deciding factor on the status of the Pokemon.
2. The game does NOT say whether it is legendary or not.
Thus, I would never go so far as to base the status of this Pokemon on what the new ranger game says. I suggest we do not jump to conclusions and say flat out that it is not legendary. I say we just state that its status is disputed. Both sides of the argument have given ample evidence, but neither has any evidence that proves WITHOUT A DOUBT that they are right. I say we wait for an OFFICIAL statement on the matter. Till then, I'm not convinced either way (not that it matters). ([[User:Toolen|Toolen]] 03:00, 18 December 2010 (UTC))

On a side note, is their any way to contact Game Freak on this matter? ([[User:Toolen|Toolen]] 03:04, 18 December 2010 (UTC))
:Ample evidence? For: Pokémon.com mailbag entry (the whole mailbag has since been taken down). Against: Recent official HGSS game guide, Ranger GS. Game Freak would be highly unlikely to respond, even if we could contact them. The side game is not the sole proof, it's the tipping piece of evidence. Due to there no longer being any evidence to support it being legendary, and two pieces against, it is now considered not legendary. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:40, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:: Not to throw more wood onto the fire, but I noticed a user making this edit:

::"However, Director of GameFreak inc, Marc Parker, has stated that Phione is indeed a legendary after months of debating with Kacey Traver, the founder of http://www.smogon.com/"

:: What to make of this? --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 20:00, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
:::If we get a reliable source for that, I think we can change it back to being legendary. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:41, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

I've changed some of the wording in the article so it has a more neutral point of view; at this stage we can't really prove if Phione is legendary or not. If all official sources gave the same answer then of course the article could contain that information, but as the official sources contradict each other, it's best just not to say either way. Although Ranger does seem like the best source to go by, it's still not set in stone, and to say that Phione is not currently classed as legendary is still only Bulbapedia's opinion. Marc Parker's statement would be a good addition to the Trivia section if we can find a reference. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 19:55, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

== Just saying... ==
Phione is in the list of banned Pokémon from the official video game championship. The list only include legendary Pokémon, so... --[[User:SamuStar|SamuStar]] 17:19, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
:Or it is the only non-legendary Pokémon listed. Banlists are indications but not proof. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:21, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
::It's likely because Phione is technically event-only.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 15:53, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
and what about Zorua and Zoroark? They aren't banned --[[User:SamuStar|SamuStar]] 16:29, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Hey guys. I'm new. I have an idea. Phione could be semi-legendary! You know, like in Greek if a god has babies with a mortal, there's a demigod? It makes sense! [[User:Cela08|Cela08]] 16:10, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
:Pokémon aint based on greek in any major way -.- [[User:Jyles|Jyles]] ([[User talk:Jyles|talk]]) 21:37, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
::Did he say Pokemon was based on Greek? No. He said you could GIVE it a title based of a greek title. Not that it had one.[[User:Chris Broach|Chris Broach]] ([[User talk:Chris Broach|talk]]) 23:39, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

== Useless part removed ==

I removed this thing: "though it is placed directly before the [[legendary birds]] in the [[Oblivia Browser]], and cannot be obtained until the game is completed.". It doesn't mean anything: first, the Browser position is irrelevant, given the fact that we don't consider Rotom's position in the National Pokédex; secondly, it's true that it's only found after clearing the main quest, but this applies also to normal Pokémon such as Blastoise and Heracross. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 12:25, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

== Inconsistency ==

I know it was settled above that Phione's Status as a legerendary are disputed and it will be put on the hold until a real source appears, however in several pages, like the Generation V page, Battle Frontier Generation IV, and some others that say Phione is classified as a non-legendary, not mentioning its '''disputed''' status. This is becoming contradictory, since the trivia in Pokémon breeding and Manaphy pages mention Phione being legendary disputed with the *. The Trivia in those other pages should be changed also, because the trivia would be 50 percent wrong (Generation IV having the same number of legendaries with V{{tt|*|With Genenation IV having more if Phione is considered legendary}}; it, Spiky eared Pichu being non-legendaries not able in the facilities{{tt|*|with the latter full confirmed non-legendaries}}) if it is put that away and 100 percente clear with the * disputed.

I think what is important it's not note that Phione being or not legendary, but yes the fact that it can be as is a relative to one. --[[User:Igor Castro Chucre|Igor ]] ([[User talk:Igor Castro Chucre|talk]]) 14:09, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
:They should be changed to mention that its legendary status is disputed, yes. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:27, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
::And its non-legendary status is also disputed. --[[User:Igor Castro Chucre|Igor ]] ([[User talk:Igor Castro Chucre|talk]]) 14:39, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

== Black (2) and White (2) ==
Is it possible to get a Phione egg by breeding Manaphy (hatched from egg which was transferred from Platinum version) and a Ditto in Black/White and Black 2/White 2? Because I've been trying but it seems like they're not producing the egg. (as of yet) Or do I need leave them in the day care centre longer? Can someone please confirm this? --[[User:Chickensdoorknob|ℂℏɨ₡ƙ℮ᵰᵴ∂ⱺ☮яϰŊøɓ]] ([[User talk:Chickensdoorknob|talk]]) 01:45, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
:What does the Day Care man say about their relationship? As long as he doesn't say they prefer to play with other Pokémon, they will breed. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:02, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
::Ok thanks. I currently don't have my DS with me. But from memory, the day-care man said something like they don't get along very well. I'll try to confirm if they do produce a egg or not later on .--[[User:Chickensdoorknob|ℂℏɨ₡ƙ℮ᵰᵴ∂ⱺ☮яϰŊøɓ]] ([[User talk:Chickensdoorknob|talk]]) 03:25, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
:::They will still produce an Egg even if he says they don't get along, it just takes longer. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:52, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

== Pokedex says Warm Water but Cliones like it cold trivia notable? ==

Is it notable that Cliones (which seem to be what Phione is based on) live in cooler waters/climates (from what I have read so far) but all of Phione's Pokédex entries mention warm water? Also, just throwing this out there, but Manaphy's Diamond Pokédex mentions its born on a cold seafloor.

Just testing the waters here, before I add any trivia; no pun intended. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 17:04, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
:Phione is only based on cliones, it is not actually one. So there are going to be inconsistencies between the Pokémon and the actual creature. It's not notable to put in the trivia section. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 21:59, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

== The status dispute? ==

If Pokémon can be divided into 2 groups:
:1/ Legendary/Mythical Pokémon, with:
::1a/ Legendary Pokémon.
::1b/ Mythical Pokémon.
:2/ Other (non-Legendary, non-Mythical) Pokémon.
What exactly the dispute is about? Is it about people don't know which group Phione should fit:
:A/ Between group 1a and 1b?
:B/ Between group 1 and 2?
::If B is the correct answer, then which is true:
:::B0/ Amongst 1a, 1b, and 2?
:::B1/ Between 1a and 2?
:::B2/ Between 1b and 2?
Sorry, my English is bad, so I don't understand exactly the wording of the article. Can you please explain it to me? Thank you in advance! --[[User:Yen01|Yen01]] ([[User talk:Yen01|talk]]) 14:39, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
:It's between 1 and 2; if it's 1, it would clearly be 1b, so we can say the dispute is between 1b and 2. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 11:50, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
::Oh! Because it says "Phione's [[Phione_(Pokémon)#Legendary status|status]] as a [[Legendary Pokémon|Legendary]] or [[Legendary Pokémon|Mythical Pokémon]] is often disputed, with contradiction occurring even between official sources" at the first part of the article, so I thought it is between 1a and 1b. Anyway, thank you very much! --[[User:Yen01|Yen01]] ([[User talk:Yen01|talk]]) 16:14, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
:::You're welcome :) I agree it was not so clear, now it only says "Mythical Pokémon" since it's clear it would be Mythical if it's "legendary". [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 17:02, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
::::The problem is that at the time Phione's status was referred to officially, English language materials did not distinguish between "Legendary" and "Mythical" and simply called both "Legendary". Since Phione is related to Manaphy, if anything it would be Mythical. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 17:09, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::This [https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/GYRH6RJ survey] strongly implies Phione is not a Mythical Pokémon. The question says "Which of these are your favorite Mythical Pokémon? (Choose your top 3.)", and includes every Mythical Pokémon, but not Phione or Deoxys.--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:21, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::So what exactly is the dispute ''after all''? I'm getting confused ''again''. If Phione may ''not'' be Mythical, what it ''should'' be: Legendary, or neither? Or we don't know for sure? Or the dispute was ''not'' about its Mythical status ''right in the first place?'' --[[User:Yen01|Yen01]] ([[User talk:Yen01|talk]]) 04:08, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::::The dispute is whether or not Phione is Mythical. It is known that it is not Legendary. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:52, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
(resetting indent) I think this dispute will never end. Phione is allowed in the Circle of Legend tournament, so it is Legendary or Mythical; "Mythical" seems to refer to event-only Pokémon, hence the fact that Deoxys isn't one of them (as stated in the survey), since it is available during normal gameplay in ORAS.
But Phione is also not Mythical, as it is not mentioned in that survey; so is it Legendary? Or is this another of those contradicting proofs from official sources? [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 20:22, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

== Legendary Status ==

So, the Circle of Legends tournament - isn't this sufficient proof on its own? The description states that "only Legendary and Mythical Pokémon may be used", and the Japanese announcement explicitly states that Phione is allowed. This creates the syllogism: 1. Only Legendary and Mythical Pokémon are allowed in the tournament. 2. Phione is allowed in the tournament. Therefore, from 1. and 2. Phione is a Legendary or Mythical Pokémon.
It's not circumstantial; it's from an official first-party source; and the "evidence against" column consists of circumstantial evidence from a spin-off, a third-party source, and a statement based on a fan-assumed definition of legendary Pokémon. Oh, and there's quite a lot of circumstantial evidence to back up that it is legendary/mythical. [[User:Seafarer|Seafarer]] ([[User talk:Seafarer|talk]]) 22:59, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
:In the TPC survey, Phione is not mentioned in the list of Mythical Pokémon. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 20:17, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Phione (Pokémon)

2015-07-14T20:17:54Z

Shepeedy: /* Legendary Status */

==Phione- Legendary or not?==
Can phione really be considered a legendary? It is by no means limited to one a game cartridge as legendary Pokemon are, given that it can breed with Ditto as well as any Magnemite, Rotom, or Baltoy. It's base stats are the same as Glalie's. Which is NOT legendary. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in order to be a legendary, doesn't a Pokemon have to be only one per game without trading, and have at least SOMEWHAT good stats? {{unsigned|Missingno. Master}}
:In my opinion, it's okay the way this article puts it. It doesn't mention Phione being a legendary, yet it's in the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Sinnoh_Legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon legendary category] because it's related to Manaphy (and its Pokédex number is among legendaries). Kind of like an honorable mention in lists, but still not worth of mentioning a legendary status when talking about Phione itself. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:43, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
::Hmm... It's because of the criterion of mine I mentioned in the last paragraph that I didn't like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Phione_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&diff=142880&oldid=142060 this update]. I wonder if somebody agrees with me. Was it really necessary to mention that "it's still considered a legendary"? --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 00:30, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
:My opinion is that Phione is classed as a legendary Pokémon because of it's relation to Manaphy as Johans has said. Also, legendary Pokémon do not evolve. Phione does not evolve into Manaphy either therefore, it must have some legendary traits. [[User:Tesh|Tesh]]
:You know, I'd have to say Phione is best classified as legendary. It's a derivative of a legendary - more closely tied to a true legendary Pokémon than Mewtwo is to Mew. It's a black sheep of the lot, but still pretty legendary, I think. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 02:18, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
::What's the role of the Phione species in Mystery Dungeon 2? I still vote for never mentioning explicitly "Phione is a legendary" until the whole franchise hints it well enough. This means official text saying it's a legendary, side games with extraordinary plots related to Phione, whether or not it will protagonize a hosou or a story arc, whether or not it will be a bonus Poké Ball in Super Smash Bros. Brawl... IDK... Stuff like that. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 22:44, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Before continuing with the edit war on the Trivia section, I must say I agree with Missingno. Master on removing that line from the Trivia section which says "Without using cheats or trading, Phione is the only legendary Pokémon that a player can have more that one of". The reason to put it back (as seen [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Phione_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&diff=next&oldid=255470 here]) is based just on the template. Such unability to say whether Phione is legendary or not only makes that line worthy of being removed IMO. Something can be an exception, but you can't tell if this one is. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 17:35, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:It's because I suck at reasons. XD; [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 17:37, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

If Pokemon.com says Phione is legendary, Phione is legendary! Phione is most likely considered legendary because it is '''of legend''' in the same way Mew and Arceus have legends surrounding them. I don't actually recall Nintendo or the Pokemon franchise explicitly state what the benchmark is for a legendary. The classifications for a legendary, (such as only one per game, high stats and inability to breed), were most likely assumed after the second Generation or so and were constatly reinforced with more legendaries fitting the criteria.
Maybe the classification has just been broken.

Phione is definately legendary but it's caused so much debate because it doesn't fit into the assumed criteria. [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 13:00, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Phione is a conundrum. I really don't think of it as legendary, as it is "legendary" the same way Rotom is. Rotom is rare and has the legendary music play, but reproduces more of its own kind with Ditto; Phione's breeding is exactly like Rotom's. It traces its lineage from legends but doesn't have the stats to match up. Mewtwo is considered legendary due to its "one-of-a-kind" status and immense power. I say Phione is more of an "Almost, but not quite Legendary" pokemon, as it basically lacks that one special (probably yellow) element or essence that Manaphy has that makes it legendary. So, I think it's not like Phione is a demotion to borderline-legendary status, I think it's more like Manaphies being "Chosen Phiones" who are more powerful and pure (and legendary) as a result. This occasional legendary status isn't passed down from this special "Phione", and thus its children are normal Phiones. I don't think this debate would be so hectic if breeding wasn't the only way to obtain Phione. I say Phione belongs in the same category as Rotom as far as legendary status is concerned (Which is no) That's actually not a bad theory, that Manaphy are stronger Phione rather than Phione being weaker Manaphy. [[User:Kohdok|Kohdok]] 08:53, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

:Phione isn't a legendary. Multiple Phione can be bred from Manaphy. Multiple Phione can be bred from Phione. Also, its base stats aren't very high. I don't know why its banned from the Battle Tower, but likely because they are too delicate for competitive battling. [[User:Dusknoir477|Dusknoir477]] 09:13, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

"Phione is a legendary because it can be obtained by breeding a [[Manaphy]], and Manaphy is a legendary. Yes, it is a baby pokemon, but it's cool that a [[baby pokemon]] is a legendary. The only reason it's band from the [[Battle Frontier]] is because it IS A LEGENDARY!!!!! (duh) --[[User:Platinum giratina13|Platinum giratina13]] 21:44, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

As per my above post, has anyone actually read or heard Nintendo state what actually MAKES a Legendary a Legendary? With the arrival of the Phione/Manaphy legendary debate, the assumed criteria of not being able to breed, one-of-a-kind-ness, and high stats would technically be outdated as Phione and Manaphy are confirmed legenderies.
Accoriding to the "new" rules, the only criteria for a legendary to be legendary is for Nintendo to say it's legendary! END OF STORY! [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 20:05, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Phione is not legendary. However, evolution cannot be the only criteria because when togepi was introduced it was considered to be legendary but it now is part of a three-tier evolutionary line. {{unsigned|Mtn otter}}

== Baby Pokemon? ==
Is it really ok to designate it as a Baby? It really doesn't fit any of the criteria of a Baby Pokemon. I mean it can breed, and to my understanding, Phione isn't a pre-evolution of Manaphy (As exemplified by the fact that it can't ever evolve into it. >_>) so much as a Manaphy that was bred in colder waters. --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 04:18, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

It's not a baby Pokémon. Baby Pokémon evolve and can't breed. Phione breeds and can't evolve. --
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 14:06, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

== This... Egg move... ==

Okay, weeks ago I taught my Manaphy the move {{m|Waterfall}}, and I recently got a Ditto. Today, when my first Phione hatched from its Egg, guess what? It knew Waterfall!! But why in the world no Pokémon site mentions it? Not even [http://www.legendarypokemon.net Legendary Pokémon], the first people to publicly hack the game, talk of this. Maybe now that Manaphy was given away in an easier way, more people can help me confirming this (maybe it's an in-game bug or something? Or some game mechanics that have been overlooked?).

<blockquote>
===By [[breeding]]===

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Please do discuss. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 02:18, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

It's an HM. That's why. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ 02:20, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:Oh... Does it always happen with babies and HM moves then? ^_^' And why isn't it valid to place it in the learnset lists? Is it because it's "obvious"? --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 03:26, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, and yes. It's listed under... breeding... i think. [[User:Inker|Inker]] 21:58, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
:Always happens with compatible HMs and TMs. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:06, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
:They grow up so fast. {{unsigned|Mtn otter}}

== Pssssst ==

Well well well, I just checked Pokemon.com and they just said Phione is indeed, not legendary. Aww shoot, I totally thought it was. Go to the mailbag. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 04:09, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:does that mean i can use it in the PBR little cup? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:21, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
::No because all the Pokémon you use have to be a pre-evolution of another Pokémon. And since Phione doesn't evolve well... --'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]''' '''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]''' 04:26, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:::oh well. its not like i have PBR anyway. (oh the irony!!) '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:27, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, I absolutely HATE to say I told you so.... But what the heck! I told you so! =D --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 11:40, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:Ah, contradiction. [http://www.pokemon.com/#mailbag_02042008 This] is also from Pokemon.com's mailbag, saying that Phione ''is'' legendary. // [[User talk:Szayel Aporro|'''''SzayelAporroGranz''''']] 19:22, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
WHAT?! This is impossible! Why would they change their answer??? HOW can something with Glalie's base stats be legendary?! --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 20:02, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:Yessss! I totally thought Phione was legendary, I mean, it IS related to one anyway. Anyway, no more fricking revert/edit wars now. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 20:14, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Why are you so happy? Phione breaks all the laws of legendaries- it can breed, it has bad stats, you can have more than one of them in PMD2... This upsets me, because all my carefully reasoned arguements, which by all rights should've been right, have been proven wrong! Plus, this means that if I use Phione in competitive battle, I'll be breaking my own rule of no legendaries. D< --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 20:18, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe because I actually THOUGHT Phione was a legendary? There's a word that you might want to hear about-- Exceptions. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 20:20, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
But how can Phione be an exception to EVERY SINGLE RULE THAT DEFINES A LEGENDARY, AND STILL BE A LEGENDARY?! '''IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.''' --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 20:22, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
::Yea, it says here http://www.pokemon.com/#mailbag_02042008 that it is legendary....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:47, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Lol yeah, we reverted the 'non-legendary' things a while ago. *points up to Szayel's post* [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:49, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Let's not forget that there was never a specific "rule" that said legendaries couldn't do what Phione does. After all, Latios and Latias didn't break the legendary genderless rule, they were merely the first legendaries with genders. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 08:58, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Plus, Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres were sort of confirmed to lay eggs in [[Pokemon Snap]], though I'm not sure if that counts or not.

~~Weedle_McHairybug~~

I recall an episode, no, three episodes of ''Pokémon: Master Quest'' where Ash encountered a Lugia and a baby Lugia. Does that mean Legendary Pokémon can have babies, in this case Manaphy getting Phione? [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 18:51, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:Some Legendaries have been shown to breed outside of the main series, like the three Birds in ''Snap''. But Phione is not a baby Manaphy because it can never become a Manaphy. Perhaps if one were to breed a Manaphy in Fiore then one would get another Manaphy egg. Of course, Manaphy eggs can't appearantly hatch in Fiore. This is all speculation, of course. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

But Phione can get another Phione as a baby.[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 02:36, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, but you can also breed a Magnemite to get another Magnemite. That doesn't classify it as a baby Pokémon. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 13:44, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, the classification of "Baby Pokémon" is that they're too young to breed. I forgot that until now.[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 14:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Just a thought: I still don't feel naming Phione a legendary Pokémon for a reason like that (the mailbox from Pokémon.com) is enough. What about Japanese denominations (densetsu, maboroshi, shinwa)? Which one is Phione? Bulbapedia is an output from us, but it's an input to many people. Saying Phione is a legendary because of that may be unhelpful if players organize battles or even trades where "legendaries aren't allowed" and they want to believe in this article instead of believing in sites that base themselves on stats and stuff. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 20:33, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

An excellent point. How do we know Pokemon.com is correct? They changed their answer once before, which could indicate that they themselves don't have any idea, and are just guessing. Really, the only ones who'd know for sure are the creators themselves, the ones who actually came up with Phione. We can't count on Pokemon.com to know what the creators were thinking. So I'd say Phione's legendary status would still be uncertain. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 14:26, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

:I think that given its place in the Pokédex and how it was required to have a Legendary Pokémon to obtain should be enough proof. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:37, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, so Dratini, Dragonair, and Dragonite are legendaries, because they're squeezed in between the bird trio and Mewtwo, are they? They are according to your logic. And secondly, just because a legendary Pokemon breeds to make a different species altogether, doesn't mean that the different species is also a legendary. Now, if Phione was unable to breed and had better stats, I would think it's a legendary. But anything with base stats equal to Glalie's and the ability to breed with Ditto like crazy? I mean, isn't the whole thing behind legendaries the fact that they're supposed to be HARD TO GET? And Phione can frickin' breed! Nintendo's never let us get more than one of each legendary per game w/o trading. Alright, here is, as I percieve it, the main points in the Phione Legendary Argument;
Phione must be legendary because;
*It is bred from another legendary
*Its position in the Pokédex
*Genderless
Phione CAN'T be a legendary because;
*Its stats are mediocre at best
*It can breed, and therefore more than one per game cart can be easily obtained

And two of the points that say it's legendary I have already shot down. The Dragonite, Tyranitar, and Metagross families are squeezed between legendaries, and does that make them legendaries? No, it does not! Does Phione's position in the Pokédex classify it as a legendary? Absolutely not! And maybe it is bred from another legendary- does that actually MEAN anything about Phione's legendary status? No! Mew was said to be the ancestor of all Pokémon, does that mean that every single Pokémon in existance is legendary? I didn't think so! And the stats! The one major consistancy about legendaries (aside from the whole can't breed thing) is their good stats. And Glalie's base stats are not good. Now then, based on that argument, I'd say Phione cannot in any way in any form, shape, or existance, be a legendary, and you'd be insane to think it is. Thank you and have a nice day. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 11:45, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

:The families you mentioned are not Legendary because they are ''families''. Phione does not evolve from or into another Pokémon. Don't be so stubborn... Phione is a Legendary, and [[MissingNo.]] isn't a real Pokémon. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:41, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

::Until recently, Roselia couldn't evolve into or from anything else. And don't drag MissingNo. into this. The fact that they are families means nothing. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 18:46, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

:::The fact that they are families means everything because Legendaries do not evolve. Which is why they can be surrounded by Legendary Pokémon in the Pokédex and not be considered. And you brought them up. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:04, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

::::Well, Rotom doesn't evolve and is oddly squeezed in between a bunch of evolutions and legendaries, and is it a legendary? Definitely not. Some people even thought it WAS a legendary for that reason (and the fact that legendary battle music played when it was battled), and yet, they were WRONG! Evolutions notwithstanding, the mere fact that there CAN be non-legendaries sandwiched between legendaries in the Pokédex means that Phione's position in said Pokédex doesn't mean a thing. And just because something doesn't evolve to or from anything doesn't mean it won't. Again, I point out Roselia as a prime example here. Dang thing got a pre-evo AND an evolution in the same generation! Now, I know Pokémon.com said that Phione is legendary, but they originally said it wasn't. The mere fact that they changed their answer indicates that they are doubtful. They could be guessing. Phione breaks the two cardinal rules that define legendaries; rarity (Phione can breed with Ditto to create more Phione), and strength (base stats of Glalie-not good). Legendaries are supposed to have at least DECENT base stats, and Phione's stats? Far from it. Most importantly, and this is the point most of you are overlooking, legendaries are supposed to be ONE PER GAME, sans trading/events. And Phione can BREED. Legendaries aren't SUPPOSED to reproduce in the games like this! That's why Phione was created in the first place-so Manaphy could lay eggs that hatched into something other than itself, so people wouldn't be running around with a *bleep*load of Manaphy on one game. Now THINK about that for a while, won't you? I propose that Phione's legendary status be labeled as "unconfirmed" until we get irrefutable proof of its legendary status (or lack thereof) by those who would know. Let's wait and see how the Anime portrays it, for example. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 10:52, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Cardinal rule that defines legendaries? There are none, and there hasn't been one that didn't get thrown out the window in the last two generations besides the fact that they can't evolve.
:::::Also, don't use Roselia for an example. Just because it can't evolve doesn't mean it's a legendary, but because Phione's legendary it cannot evolve. Squares and rectangles, you see. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:05, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Exactly. And I ''highly'' doubt that Manaphy will ever gain an evo or even a prevo. Rotom, on the other hand, is more likely. Besides, who ever said that base stats defined legendary status? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:48, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nobody... It's more of an intuitive meaning. Like, most Pokémon movies and major story arcs are protagonized by legendary Pokémon. In the anime, legendary Pokémon are "powerful". And non-coincidentally, their stats are high in the Pokémon games, which is an accurate meaning for "powerful". --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
::Doesn't mean they couldn't make a crappy legendary. As of Gen I, the rules were ONE PER GAME, HIGH STATS, and NO EVOLVING. Once Gen II rolled around we got NO GENDER and NO BREEDING. Gen III took down the ONE PER GAME thing since Brandon had the damned Regi and the NO GENDER thing with Lati@s. All Gen IV did was remove NO BREEDING and HIGH STATS, since Phione sucks. Well, actually, not really sucks, just isn't incredibly cheaply high. People want less legendaries, how the hell else are they going to do anything unless they gradually reduce legendaries into little more than normal Pokémon? Sheesh, Heatran has a variable gender! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:45, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Oh, sure, they COULD create a crappy legendary, but why would they? Legendary Pokémon have always been portrayed as powerful Pokémon that cannot breed. Legendary Pokémon are put up high on pedestals by those who create them. Legendaries sell movies. It's clear that the creators of Pokémon want the public to have a high opinion of legendaries, so why wreck it with a legendary that you can get a *bleep*load of in any given game, and that has less than decent stats? I don't think they would. Now, I want any one of you to list for me all the overwhelming reasons that prove beyond conclusive doubt that Phione is a legendary. Anyone? Nobody? OK, let me think here.... Oh, I know! Phione's bred from Manaphy! My goodness! Oh, how I must have been mistaken! Oh, Phione's bred from Manaphy! Son of cheese, that MUST mean it's legendary! Anyone who agreed with my last two sentences is a complete imbecile. For the love of Arceus, people, just because a Pokémon can be hatched from an egg that has been laid by a Legendary Pokémon doesn't mean that the offspring is legendary! Pichu hatch from eggs laid by Pikachu and Raichu, so does that make Pikachu and Raichu baby Pokémon? Of course not! Now, I want you people to think- just THINK- about it for a moment. Given the evidence I have presented, not just now, but over my entire career of arguing that Phione cannot be legendary, versus the single, measly fact that it can be bred from Manaphy, not to mention an entirely unconvincing letter from Pokémon.com (in which, may I remind you all, they changed their answer, indicating that they don't really know and are more than likely guessing), can you REALLY, in sound mind and complete sanity, STILL say, with the utmost conviction, that Phione is a legendary? DIDN'T THINK SO! OH, DUH! I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 01:29, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Phione is legendary... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 02:14, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:Phione's legendary status is debatable as we have not received word from the Jap creators. But still, Phione is legendary because it can ShoopWhoop. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:37 2 Jul 2008'''''
:If Phione's not legendary, neither is Manaphy. Neither is Mewtwo. Manaphy is hatched from an egg, it matters not that you can't dump it in the daycare and get more Manaphy. The reason FOR Phione is just that: they KNEW that after getting an egg with Manaphy people would try for more, breed with Ditto, and end up whining if it were like Mew or Celebi. So they made Phione to trick people. As for Mewtwo, it was created by humans. No legend there. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:13, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
And why do you think they did that with Manaphy in the first place? So people couldn't get more easily! Phione, on the other hand, can breed. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 14:15, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

:Which makes Phione the first legendary that can successfully breed. No one ever said that all legendaries have to fit into some definable category forever more. And the fact that it's stats are lacking is because it can breed. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:50, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

::YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT! The mere fact that Manaphy can breed, but not to create more Manaphy, indicates that legendaries aren't SUPPOSED to breed! As I've previously stated, if the fact that Manaphy can breed to make Phione is the only argument for Phione's legendary status, then it's a real feeble-ass argument, as, if Phione were indeed a legendary, then it would be the only legendary with breeding capabilities and mediocre stats, and I don't think that that's all that likely! Think about it! If they were going to make it so legendaries were breedable, there would be no Phione, and Manaphy could just lay more Manaphy eggs! OH DUH! I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 16:52, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

It was never set in stone that legendaries cannot breed and have to be one of a kind. If Nintendo and Game Freak want to make a sub-par legendary, then SO BE IT!!! Obviously the person who stated that Phione was not legendary was mistaken, and they corrected that mistake. Things change. Nothing has to be the exact same every generation. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:26, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

:OK, what you're saying WOULD make a lot of sense, if it didn't indicate that you never actually comprehended my arguments. THINK! If Nintendo and Game Freak wanted to create a breedable legendary at all, Phione wouldn't even exist, as the only reason they made it was that Manaphy could lay eggs without them hatching into more Manaphy! They would've just made Manaphy able to produce more Manaphy eggs! But they didn't! They made Manaphy able to breed a completely different species, and THAT species can breed, and it can't evolve into Manaphy. You know what this means? LEGENDARIES ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BREED, AND PHIONE IS LIVING PROOF! Now I agree, they COULD make a sub-par legendary. My point, however, is, WHY WOULD THEY? Look at the movies- legendary Pokémon are constantly spoken of with reverence, portrayed as grand, majestic, powerful, and rare, depictions that hold true in the games. Now, do you REALLY think that they'd besmirch the good name of legendaries, which they have worked so hard to glorify, by creating a legendary as common as Bidoof and as weak as Glalie? DIDN'T THINK SO! And before anyone replies to this, why don't you actually READ what I type, and let it sink in, let the gears of reason start turning in your head, and don't just come up with another lame excuse of an excuse as to why Phione is STILL legendary, despite all my well-reasoned arguments proving otherwise. Thank you. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 11:27, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

::<<sigh>>... The games and the movies are made by different people and follow completely different canon. According to the anime, Unown are legendary and powerful. Plus, who's to say that you can't produce more Manaphy eggs in a future generation? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:15, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

:::Missingno. Master, I don't really think that the Games even held Legendaries as being high, majestic, and one of a kind. If they had, Brandon would NOT have had the three Golems OR the three Birds (the former of which can ALSO be caught in the wild), Palmer would NOT have owned Heatran, Cresselia, and Regigigas. Also, I won't get too spoilerific, but in Movie 11, let's just say that Shaymin isn't the only one of it's kind (Then again, considering the same event that Shaymin debuted in had a similar white rock located in Kanto (not to mention it being obtained in Almia), it was also hinted that it wasn't really one of a kind there either.). And anyways, even IF you can't breed Manaphies from Manaphies in Sinnoh, the mere fact that it HAD an egg proves that it can breed from another Manaphy, which would hint that, by your logic, it's not even a legendary. Also, the three dogs, Rayquaza, Groudon, Kyogre, Celebi, Mew, and Deoxys wouldn't have multiple members in Fiore (If Manaphy is counted as an official Main Legendary despite originating from a Spinoff game, then I'm going to count Fiore as a main game region as well.). the three dogs, Lugia, and Ho-Oh would ALSO have not appeared in Kanto/Sevii Islands if that was the case. heck, the three dogs, Ho-Oh, Lugia, the three birds, and Celebi would NOT have existed in Orre at all if they were one of a kind. The three Regis would ALSO have not existed in Sinnoh at ALL if legendaries were truly one of a kind. So please stop acting as though they shouldn't have multitudes. In fact, the only legendary pokemon that HASN'T had multitudes period is Mewtwo itself. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 11:06, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
::::But, the fact still remains that in the games, legendaries are supposed to be one per cartridge. Manaphy itself is proof of this- if legendaries weren't intended to be one per cartridge, Phione wouldn't exist, as Manaphy would be able to produce more Manaphy. That's why Phione exist- to prevent Manaphy from breeding more Manaphy. And Phione are certainly NOT one per cartridge, as anyone with a Phione, a Ditto, and access to a daycare center can easily get as many Phione as they wish. And then there is the matter of its stats. Legendary Pokemon are powerful. They have good stats. They can learn Hyper Beam and other powerful moves. Phione has base 80 stats all around and can't learn Hyper Beam or any variant. It has no exclusive move (true, not all legendaries do). It doesn't even learn all the moves Manaphy can. And it doesn't learn ANY move Manaphy can't. True, this does not conclusively prove Phione to not be legendary, but it certainly lends a hefty amount of support towards that side of the issue. Certainly more than "It's bred from Manaphy, it must be legendary". - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 02:34, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::I can come up with better. It says so right there on Pokemon.com. Yes, I get that they corrected the answer. You're just reading into WHY it was. It's a wild guess, but I'm betting that the IT person who updates the website isn't intricately connected with anyone who makes or translates the games. He tried to answer it on his own, did it incorrectly, and was corrected. Either way, if you have a better source than POKEMON.COM that that says it isn't a legendary, I'd like to see it.
::::::As for all this talk about "Legends are this, legends are that", none of it is true. The only requirement to be a "Legendary Pokemon" is to be deemed one by Game Freak. What moves they learn are largely irrelevant, because many Pokemon have vast move pools. Gen 3 and 4 often have Legends as Plot Devices, but it doesn't hold true to Gen I, II, and those that are exclusive to events.[[User:Randomspot555|Randomspot555]] 22:06, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't know why the so-called MissigNo. Master is so upset that Phione is a legendary! I could say more reasons why it is I just don't want to, and some of them are already said, becasue it's so obvious! It is!!! DEAL WITH IT! Now, another reason nobody has said or at least so far I've read, it makes no sense to make a legendary Pokémon to breed ''into''(I don't know which preposition goes here) a not-legendary one. That's just not logic!, I mean, we all know Manaphy IS legendary right, then why would it be able to bread (into another species, anyway) into a not legendary?? MAKES NO SENSE, it is legendary despite its "bad stats", ability to breed and it doesn't evolve, even into the species it can come from, etc..

Would other legendary breed (if more could) into a not-legendary one? for example a Moltres if it could breed together with Ditto... you think the baby would be a, say, Growlithe? Of course not, It would be, I don't know, a new species, or another Moltres and it would still be a legendary.

Pokémon is in constant change, they created a new kind of legendary, maybe the only one of its kind -that can breed-, or at least so far, who says that maybe in next generations more and new legendaies will not be able to breed?? Maybe they would! People really need to start THINKING about the logic in here, and the BIG, really big POSIBILITY that it could be a legendary!--[[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 18:38, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

:Reviving this argument, I will just have what I hope to be my final say in this. Thus far, here are the facts:

Phione must be legendary because;
*It is bred from another legendary
*Its position in the Pokédex
*Genderless
*Pokémon.com said so

Phione CAN'T be a legendary because;
*Its stats are mediocre at best
**Legendaries have stats that are decent at the least.
*Inordinate amounts of them appeared in the anime, more than any legendary.
**It's rare to see more than one of any given species of legendary in the anime, let alone in the same episode. No less than six appeared in [[DP113]].
*It can breed, and therefore more than one per game cart can be easily obtained
**It's a well-known fact that legendaries are supposed to be one per game cart, outside of trading.

The points in the "Phione must be legendary" column are <strike>full of crap</strike> inconclusive because;
*Manaphy can breed to create Phione for the sole purpose of preventing the breeding of more Manaphy, which right there proves that legendaries are not supposed to breed. See, if legendaries were supposed to breed, Phione wouldn't even exist, as Manaphy would be able to create more of itself.
*Dratini, Larvitar, and their evolutions are sandwiched in between groups of legendaries in most Pokédex entries, and they're not legendaries.
*Voltorb, Magneton, Baltoy, Metang, and Rotom are all genderless. None of them are legendary.
*Pokémon.com also said that Shaymin's Sky Forme had Natural Cure, that Swallow was a new attack for Generation IV, and that there was a Staraptor in Jumping Rocket Ship. Also, the fact that they changed their answer denotes unsureness.

Now, let me get this through to you. I will say this once, and only once. I will only back down from my argument if, and only if, Satoshi Tajiri ''himself'' personally declares that Phione is a legendary. That, in my opinion, is the only source that will provide a definitive answer. I will accept nothing less. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] says: The [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] is real![[User talk: Missingno. Master|(talk page)]] 22:24, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:Pssssst. '''Legendary''' (''ˈlɛdʒənˌdɛri'') adj. '''1.''' of, pertaining to, or of the nature of a legend. // Phione is allegedly a bringer of good luck to those who see it; tourists flock to Chocovine just to get a glimpse of Phione. That hints at Phione being a rare Pokémon with uncommon abilities, both of which can be associated with a Pokémon of legend. [http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq41/PDLpics/23a814bea263b08a6dee29561e6906dae1d.gif] '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 22:40, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
::I am not getting mad at video games. I am getting mad at people mistaking Phione for a legendary. As for the anime, that actually proves nothing. In the anime, Phione are rare. In the anime, Metagross are damaged by Poison Tail. In the anime, wild Squirtle form troublemaking gangs. In the anime, Dustox can learn Stun Spore. In the anime, Geodude and Golem can be floored by Thunderbolt. In the anime, ahem, PIKACHU! AIM FOR THE HORN! In the games, Phione are easy to get. In the games, Metagross are unaffected by Poison Tail. In the games, there are no wild Squirtle. In the games, Dustox can't learn Stun Spore. In the games, no ground type can be harmed by Thunderbolt. My point being, the anime was made after the games, and do not necessarily need to conform to them. And they don't, in many cases. I admit, it was therefore wrong of me to drag the anime into this argument. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] says: The [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] is real![[User talk: Missingno. Master|(talk page)]] 22:50, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Just because you're too stubborn to admit that you're incorrect doesn't mean you're correct. <3 '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 23:06, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to drag up an old debate again, but I have another point that hasn't been mentioned yet and which crushes MM's arguments: If they didn't want Manaphies to breed Manaphies, then they wouldn't be breedable! --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 07:09, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

== Phione's advantages ==

* Does Phiones have any advantages that Manaphy doesn't have? If not, then what's the point? --[[User:Kid Sonic|Kid Sonic]] 00:13, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
:Irrelevant. Someone remove this. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 00:32, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
::That was rude. Now, in response to the question, Phione does not have any sort of advantage over Manaphy. All its stats are lower, and it doesn't learn any moves Manaphy can't. So no, there is no point other than keeping people from breeding multiple Manaphy. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:07, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
::Except they're not Manaphy. --[[User:Kid Sonic|Kid Sonic]] 05:03, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Exactly. It's there to piss you off because people would be all "O LOL I HAS MANAFY FROM EGG I PUT DAYCARE IT MAKE MOAR MANAFY I PUT ON GTS AND GET MEWTOO". And then you get Phione. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:14, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Random Something Thinks I ==

Why is Phione not in the No eggs group if it's genderless.{{u|Laxafett}}19:41, 18 December 2008(UTC)
:Because it has those egg groups in the game's internal data. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 19:48, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

== Battle Tower ==
I didn't see anyone mention this, surprisingly. But doesn't the fact that it can't be used in the battle tower (or any Frontier facility I'm assuming) prove it's legendary? Every other Pokemon restricted from being used there is a Legendary Pokemon... '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 21:46, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:Probably more because it's semi-event-exclusive, methinks. Not all legendaries are banned from there. All event-exclusive species are banned from there, however. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 21:47, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
::It's true that not all legendaries are banned, but I didn't say that anyway :p I said that all Pokemon that are banned are legendary. The converse isn't true though, as you so pointed out. However, the Aura Sphere-using Riolu from Ranger is also an Event Pokemon and it isn't banned, so there's a hole in your theory. '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 22:53, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I said event-exclusive SPECIES, and for exactly that reason. Riolu can easily be obtained outside an event. Phione, not so much. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:55, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

== Once and for all ==

As has been pointed out before and confirmed on Pokemon.com, Phione is a legendary Pokemon. If anyone has a more reliable source that says otherwise, such as a direct interview with someone in the franchise, please present it. Otherwise, I can't see how the debate can continue. Pokemon.com says so, and no one else has any other sources that say otherwise. Note that I only changed the intro paragraph. The trivia section already reflected it's legend status, and the page on Legendary Pokemon say it's a legend also. [[User:Randomspot555|Randomspot555]] 04:38, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

YES! Finally! Everybody knew it was in fact legendary. [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 19:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Legendary Status has been officially revoked. ==

From the Vol. 1, Pg.27 of the official Pokemon HeartGold & SoulSilver Version guide book: "Since Phione can be obtained by hatching Eggs, it is not classified as a Legendary Pokemon."

The guide book is published by [[The Pokémon Company International]], which is the same company that runs Pokemon.com, the website that originally confirmed it's Legendary status. Obviously they've changed their minds. --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 19:10, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
:''Well, well, well''. I was right the whole time! Now, I don't like to gloat.... Who am I kidding? I ''love'' to gloat! I was right, and you all were wrong! I'm off to change the page! - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 02:51, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::I think it is legendary. Why would the ''exact same'' company ban usage of it in VGC? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:53, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::For the exact same reason they banned Rotom until HG/SS came out. Event exclusive species (formes in Rotom's case). I knew it all along, the evidence was incontrovertible. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 02:58, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::::I still don't feel comfortable about this... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:59, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Oh, well. If the Pokémon Company International, the exact same company in charge of the official Pokémon website, says Phione is not legendary, then it's not legendary. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 03:01, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::They've been wrong before. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:03, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Two things: If TPCi says it's not legendary, how ''else'' are we going to get official confirmation? It's not legendary. There. lol
:::::::The other thing is... you don't need to rub it in everyone's face that you were right. Seriously. Cut it out. >_> ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 03:05, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::...I think I remember My Pokémon Ranch calling it legendary... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:09, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::The Trivia section mentions the conflicting sources, isn't that good enough? Seriously. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 03:11, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::No. See, this is more definitive proof. See, the website, well, they could change it on a whim. But if they were to change their minds and declare Phione a legendary, they'd have to do something about these guidebooks. So if they put in the guidebooks that Phione is not a legendary, they must have been sure about it. Besides which, the conflicting online source no longer exists. If there are no further objections (that contain actual reasoning, not just moaning and whining from people who are just upset that they've been wrong the whole time), I will go ahead and unhide that bit in the intro to the article. It's been a pleasure winning this argument. In all seriousness, however, I am sorry if I came across as rude about this whole ordeal. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 14:27, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

(unindent) I don't see why we can't mention the controversy. If we're not going to cite our sources on a conflicted bit on information, we should at least bring out where it conflicts. That's what good reporting is about. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar{{#ifeq: |Night|_Night}}.png|Pokémon Dollar|link=Pokémon Dollar]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 23:55, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
:MM, the source still exists. Origin.pokemon.com. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 23:57, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
::Oh, so it does. Well, it still doesn't change the fact that a more recent source from the same company has something different. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 01:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:::People should really not forget that guidebooks aren't always correct. Some say things like Cascoon can only be obtained at night, so it could be an error [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 01:35, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::::OK... too much arguing here. First, I couldn't get origin.pokemon.com to work, much less access the mailbag... anyone care to put up a direct link to the specific mailbag that stated Phione's status? Also, I think that Phione should be considered not legendary as TPCI, the most official source in this matter other than TPC or the games themselves, has stated most recently (the HGSS guidebook) that it is not legendary. Arguments about "they could be wrong", "they couldn't be wrong", "they could sometime change their mind as they have before" are invalid, as they only serve to invalidate the other point of view whenever convenient. Its not an issue of the website or the guidebooks being more official, they are both equally official, but as the guidebook is the ''most recent'', Phione should be considered not legendary until TPCI or a more official source states otherwise. However, I believe that stating "it's not a legendary" in the lead of the article is unnecessary; we only put up when it ''is'' legendary, we do not go around and put up in every non-legendary's Pokémon article that it's not legendary.
::::That said, precisely because TPCI has contradicted itself before, and there have been numerous debates on this, I think an entire section explaining everything is in order, maybe under Trivia. I'd put it up in the article myself, but I don't wanna get into an edit war so I'll put it up here for everyone to approve/disapprove of first. Also, I think putting up dates the announcements were made might be necessary too. '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 04:24, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Keep this in mind: the guidebooks are written by idiots. They ''constantly'' screw stuff up and throw in their opinions, not Nintendo's, and their assumptions, not the game programming. It's said that Wurmple evolves depending on time, or on gender, and that was a persistent rumor during Gen III. But we ripped the games apart and verified that no, it's based on the PV. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:34, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::I want to point out here that the Media Factory guidebook (the one from which the English guidebook was translated) indeed states that Phione is not considered legendary. I can't be assed to take an actual picture, but [http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3330177/mfphione.jpg here have a blurry-as-hell webcam picture]. I assure you that it says exactly the same thing as in the English guidebook. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 04:59, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Then Manaphy isn't legendary either, I assume? And what of Unown? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Well, yes, the reasoning of "it's not legendary because it can breed" would exclude Manaphy as a legendary. Though Unown is a moot point, since the reasoning is not "every Pokémon that can't breed is a legendary"... But I digress. On the topic of the trustworthiness of the guides: yes, they have been inaccurate, but the site has contradicted itself also. My point is, they're both equally reliable (or unreliable). I mean, both are TPCI, or rather, people employed at TPCI who could make stuff up or make assumptions. So, we either take both as accurate (and the guide, as the most recent update, states how it is as of now) or neither, and therefore we CAN'T conclusively say Phione is or isn't a legendary. Now that I think of it, maybe that last one is for the best. '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 06:00, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

===Status as a legendary Pokémon===
When Phione was first discovered in the Pokémon games, there was much debate whether or not it should be considered as a [[legendary Pokémon]]. Some said it should be, citing its inability to evolve and its rarity (as it could only be bred initially from an already rare Manaphy), as well as its exclusive relationship to the indisputably legendary {{p|Manaphy}}. Others said it shouldn’t be considered legendary, mentioning its capacity to breed and be hatched from regular eggs, as well as its generally weak stats.
Even [[The Pokémon Company International]] has had conflicting announcements about Phione’s legendary status. Firstly, [[Pokemon.com]] mentioned in its mailbag that Phione was not a legendary Pokémon, but it was changed shortly thereafter, making Phione officially a legendary for a while. Recently, however, the official guidebook of {{2v|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, published also by TPCI, stated that Phione is not a legendary due to its ability to reproduce. Given that this is the latest official update on this Pokémon’s status, it is currently considered to not be a legendary Pokémon.

== Breeding ==
To keep consistency, doesn't Phione need a breeding section "By Breeding/None." I put it up bt someone deleted it >:( so do we need this section or not? It's on Rotom's and other other Pokes that can be obtained through breeding but have no egg moves. [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 01:42, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:Consistency is enjoyed. Plz to be putting it there. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:11, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry about that. I removed it because I thought I had seen other articles without a "by breeding" section. But I must have been wrong. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar{{#ifeq: |Night|_Night}}.png|Pokémon Dollar|link=Pokémon Dollar]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 22:30, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

== Legendary status ==

Thought I'd add this to the start of the article, to settle the legendary argument:

"Phione is considered by some to be a [[legendary Pokémon]]. However, due to the fact that it can breed and multiple individuals can be obtained, its legendary status remains disputed, with contradiction occuring even between official sources." [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 21:40, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

The new Pokémon Ranger game '''definitely''' confirms it as non-legendary. '''CASE CLOSED''' -'''[[User:Gengarzilla|I Liek Gengarz!]] [[User talk:Gengarzilla|Do Joo Liek Dem?]]''' 16:23, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
:It may not be referred to as legendary, but does it explicitly say Phione is ''not'' legendary? If not, then it is certainly not settled "once and for all". '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 08:17, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
::Black and White disagree it seems, as Phione is banned from the Battle Subway. The difference this time around? Zorua and Zoroark, also event Pokemon, are NOT banned, while Phione, despite being recently stated as non-legendary, is still banned. If someone can simply contact Game Freak themselves and not rely on a spin-off, THEN we can confirm it's status once and for all. Better to get the answer from it's original creator yes? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 00:40, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Zorua and Zoroark are slightly easier to get without an event, as you can merely trade for them over the GTS. If you talk to the silent boy in Hiun City, Zorua is recorded as "seen" in your Pokedex, and N uses a Zoroark, so you can search for them. Phione, on the other hand, cannot be seen in any games, and the only way to see Manaphy is to look at Backlot's book in Platinum. And even then there's no guarantee that anyone will trade you a Manaphy over the GTS. And seriously, Phione not being referred to as legendary or rare in Ranger:Guardian Signs when every legendary is? I'm pretty damn sure that can't be a coincidence. Please, let's not drag up this old argument again, as I still have my other valid points as to why Phione can't be legendary. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 00:45, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Honestly, until we get a confirmation directly from Game Freak themselves and not someone else saying it for them, Phione's status is still under debate it seems. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 00:47, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Besides it's not like Phione is breaking Metagames anytime soon unlike Zoroark with it's Illusion ability causing massive mind games..... Regardless of how it is found, Zoroark deserves a banning more than Phione in a way. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 00:49, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::Game Freak are unlikley to reply to any fan e-mails, even if sent in Japanese. But if Phione is confirmed as non-legendary, then a good bit of info for the Trivia section would be "Phione is the only non-legendary Pokemon not in any regional Pokedex." '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 00:53, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::I can be debated either way, but don't base if it's legendary or not based on Pokemon Ranger Games. Because according to Pokémon Ranger Celebi is not legendary it's "rare" :| [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 01:43, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Rare is still legendary. It's just that there are two kinds in Japanese "legendary" and "rare", which this game distinguishes between. Phione gets nothing as if it were a regular Pokémon (because it is). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:04, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Still.... I don't really like trusting spin-offs for this kind of information because sometimes they can make mistakes rather easily (Loads of places mislabel Wurmple's evolution as time based or gender based after all, with even the official site listing it incorrectly last time I checked the site years ago [Doesn't say evolution methods in the modern day site]). I think it's more of a safer opinion if we get an answer from Game Freak, even if they rarely answer, it still seems like a much better option as we can get the truth once and for all... [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 14:06, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Why is everyone making such a big deal out of this? In my opinion, Phione is a legendary Pokemon. However, I am not going to argue for or against it. All I have to say on this matter is this: 1. Since WHEN are side games the deciding factor on the status of the Pokemon.
2. The game does NOT say whether it is legendary or not.
Thus, I would never go so far as to base the status of this Pokemon on what the new ranger game says. I suggest we do not jump to conclusions and say flat out that it is not legendary. I say we just state that its status is disputed. Both sides of the argument have given ample evidence, but neither has any evidence that proves WITHOUT A DOUBT that they are right. I say we wait for an OFFICIAL statement on the matter. Till then, I'm not convinced either way (not that it matters). ([[User:Toolen|Toolen]] 03:00, 18 December 2010 (UTC))

On a side note, is their any way to contact Game Freak on this matter? ([[User:Toolen|Toolen]] 03:04, 18 December 2010 (UTC))
:Ample evidence? For: Pokémon.com mailbag entry (the whole mailbag has since been taken down). Against: Recent official HGSS game guide, Ranger GS. Game Freak would be highly unlikely to respond, even if we could contact them. The side game is not the sole proof, it's the tipping piece of evidence. Due to there no longer being any evidence to support it being legendary, and two pieces against, it is now considered not legendary. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:40, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:: Not to throw more wood onto the fire, but I noticed a user making this edit:

::"However, Director of GameFreak inc, Marc Parker, has stated that Phione is indeed a legendary after months of debating with Kacey Traver, the founder of http://www.smogon.com/"

:: What to make of this? --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 20:00, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
:::If we get a reliable source for that, I think we can change it back to being legendary. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:41, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

I've changed some of the wording in the article so it has a more neutral point of view; at this stage we can't really prove if Phione is legendary or not. If all official sources gave the same answer then of course the article could contain that information, but as the official sources contradict each other, it's best just not to say either way. Although Ranger does seem like the best source to go by, it's still not set in stone, and to say that Phione is not currently classed as legendary is still only Bulbapedia's opinion. Marc Parker's statement would be a good addition to the Trivia section if we can find a reference. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 19:55, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

== Just saying... ==
Phione is in the list of banned Pokémon from the official video game championship. The list only include legendary Pokémon, so... --[[User:SamuStar|SamuStar]] 17:19, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
:Or it is the only non-legendary Pokémon listed. Banlists are indications but not proof. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:21, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
::It's likely because Phione is technically event-only.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 15:53, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
and what about Zorua and Zoroark? They aren't banned --[[User:SamuStar|SamuStar]] 16:29, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Hey guys. I'm new. I have an idea. Phione could be semi-legendary! You know, like in Greek if a god has babies with a mortal, there's a demigod? It makes sense! [[User:Cela08|Cela08]] 16:10, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
:Pokémon aint based on greek in any major way -.- [[User:Jyles|Jyles]] ([[User talk:Jyles|talk]]) 21:37, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
::Did he say Pokemon was based on Greek? No. He said you could GIVE it a title based of a greek title. Not that it had one.[[User:Chris Broach|Chris Broach]] ([[User talk:Chris Broach|talk]]) 23:39, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

== Useless part removed ==

I removed this thing: "though it is placed directly before the [[legendary birds]] in the [[Oblivia Browser]], and cannot be obtained until the game is completed.". It doesn't mean anything: first, the Browser position is irrelevant, given the fact that we don't consider Rotom's position in the National Pokédex; secondly, it's true that it's only found after clearing the main quest, but this applies also to normal Pokémon such as Blastoise and Heracross. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 12:25, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

== Inconsistency ==

I know it was settled above that Phione's Status as a legerendary are disputed and it will be put on the hold until a real source appears, however in several pages, like the Generation V page, Battle Frontier Generation IV, and some others that say Phione is classified as a non-legendary, not mentioning its '''disputed''' status. This is becoming contradictory, since the trivia in Pokémon breeding and Manaphy pages mention Phione being legendary disputed with the *. The Trivia in those other pages should be changed also, because the trivia would be 50 percent wrong (Generation IV having the same number of legendaries with V{{tt|*|With Genenation IV having more if Phione is considered legendary}}; it, Spiky eared Pichu being non-legendaries not able in the facilities{{tt|*|with the latter full confirmed non-legendaries}}) if it is put that away and 100 percente clear with the * disputed.

I think what is important it's not note that Phione being or not legendary, but yes the fact that it can be as is a relative to one. --[[User:Igor Castro Chucre|Igor ]] ([[User talk:Igor Castro Chucre|talk]]) 14:09, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
:They should be changed to mention that its legendary status is disputed, yes. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:27, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
::And its non-legendary status is also disputed. --[[User:Igor Castro Chucre|Igor ]] ([[User talk:Igor Castro Chucre|talk]]) 14:39, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

== Black (2) and White (2) ==
Is it possible to get a Phione egg by breeding Manaphy (hatched from egg which was transferred from Platinum version) and a Ditto in Black/White and Black 2/White 2? Because I've been trying but it seems like they're not producing the egg. (as of yet) Or do I need leave them in the day care centre longer? Can someone please confirm this? --[[User:Chickensdoorknob|ℂℏɨ₡ƙ℮ᵰᵴ∂ⱺ☮яϰŊøɓ]] ([[User talk:Chickensdoorknob|talk]]) 01:45, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
:What does the Day Care man say about their relationship? As long as he doesn't say they prefer to play with other Pokémon, they will breed. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:02, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
::Ok thanks. I currently don't have my DS with me. But from memory, the day-care man said something like they don't get along very well. I'll try to confirm if they do produce a egg or not later on .--[[User:Chickensdoorknob|ℂℏɨ₡ƙ℮ᵰᵴ∂ⱺ☮яϰŊøɓ]] ([[User talk:Chickensdoorknob|talk]]) 03:25, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
:::They will still produce an Egg even if he says they don't get along, it just takes longer. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:52, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

== Pokedex says Warm Water but Cliones like it cold trivia notable? ==

Is it notable that Cliones (which seem to be what Phione is based on) live in cooler waters/climates (from what I have read so far) but all of Phione's Pokédex entries mention warm water? Also, just throwing this out there, but Manaphy's Diamond Pokédex mentions its born on a cold seafloor.

Just testing the waters here, before I add any trivia; no pun intended. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 17:04, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
:Phione is only based on cliones, it is not actually one. So there are going to be inconsistencies between the Pokémon and the actual creature. It's not notable to put in the trivia section. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 21:59, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

== The status dispute? ==

If Pokémon can be divided into 2 groups:
:1/ Legendary/Mythical Pokémon, with:
::1a/ Legendary Pokémon.
::1b/ Mythical Pokémon.
:2/ Other (non-Legendary, non-Mythical) Pokémon.
What exactly the dispute is about? Is it about people don't know which group Phione should fit:
:A/ Between group 1a and 1b?
:B/ Between group 1 and 2?
::If B is the correct answer, then which is true:
:::B0/ Amongst 1a, 1b, and 2?
:::B1/ Between 1a and 2?
:::B2/ Between 1b and 2?
Sorry, my English is bad, so I don't understand exactly the wording of the article. Can you please explain it to me? Thank you in advance! --[[User:Yen01|Yen01]] ([[User talk:Yen01|talk]]) 14:39, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
:It's between 1 and 2; if it's 1, it would clearly be 1b, so we can say the dispute is between 1b and 2. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 11:50, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
::Oh! Because it says "Phione's [[Phione_(Pokémon)#Legendary status|status]] as a [[Legendary Pokémon|Legendary]] or [[Legendary Pokémon|Mythical Pokémon]] is often disputed, with contradiction occurring even between official sources" at the first part of the article, so I thought it is between 1a and 1b. Anyway, thank you very much! --[[User:Yen01|Yen01]] ([[User talk:Yen01|talk]]) 16:14, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
:::You're welcome :) I agree it was not so clear, now it only says "Mythical Pokémon" since it's clear it would be Mythical if it's "legendary". [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 17:02, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
::::The problem is that at the time Phione's status was referred to officially, English language materials did not distinguish between "Legendary" and "Mythical" and simply called both "Legendary". Since Phione is related to Manaphy, if anything it would be Mythical. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 17:09, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::This [https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/GYRH6RJ survey] strongly implies Phione is not a Mythical Pokémon. The question says "Which of these are your favorite Mythical Pokémon? (Choose your top 3.)", and includes every Mythical Pokémon, but not Phione or Deoxys.--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:21, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::So what exactly is the dispute ''after all''? I'm getting confused ''again''. If Phione may ''not'' be Mythical, what it ''should'' be: Legendary, or neither? Or we don't know for sure? Or the dispute was ''not'' about its Mythical status ''right in the first place?'' --[[User:Yen01|Yen01]] ([[User talk:Yen01|talk]]) 04:08, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::::The dispute is whether or not Phione is Mythical. It is known that it is not Legendary. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:52, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

== Legendary Status ==

So, the Circle of Legends tournament - isn't this sufficient proof on its own? The description states that "only Legendary and Mythical Pokémon may be used", and the Japanese announcement explicitly states that Phione is allowed. This creates the syllogism: 1. Only Legendary and Mythical Pokémon are allowed in the tournament. 2. Phione is allowed in the tournament. Therefore, from 1. and 2. Phione is a Legendary or Mythical Pokémon.
It's not circumstantial; it's from an official first-party source; and the "evidence against" column consists of circumstantial evidence from a spin-off, a third-party source, and a statement based on a fan-assumed definition of legendary Pokémon. Oh, and there's quite a lot of circumstantial evidence to back up that it is legendary/mythical. [[User:Seafarer|Seafarer]] ([[User talk:Seafarer|talk]]) 22:59, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
:In the TPC survey, Phione is not mentioned in the list of Mythical Pokémon. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 20:17, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Phione (Pokémon)

2015-07-14T20:13:50Z

Shepeedy: /* Evidence against */

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name=Phione |
jname=フィオネ |
jtranslit=Fione |
tmname=Phione |
ndex=489 |
obrow=297 |
typebox=1 |
type1=Water |
species=Sea Drifter |
height-ftin=1'04" |
height-m=0.4 |
weight-lbs=6.8 |
weight-kg=3.1 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Hydration |
egggroupn=2 |
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'''Phione''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese:]] '''フィオネ''' ''Phione'') is a {{type|Water}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}.

While it is not known to [[Evolution|evolve]] into or from any other Pokémon, it can only be obtained by breeding {{p|Manaphy}} or another Phione with {{p|Ditto}}.

It is a member of the {{DL|Legendary Pokémon|sea guardians}} with Manaphy.

Phione's [[#Legendary status|status]] as a [[Legendary Pokémon|Legendary or Mythical Pokémon]] is often disputed, with contradiction occurring even between official sources.

==Biology==
Phione is a blue Pokémon with a round head and a tiny body. Phione's head is crowned by a flotation sac with a long, ribbon-like antenna. Its mouth is small, and its eyes are large with blue sclera and gray irises. Above its eyes are two blue, circular markings connected to the eyes by a thin black line. Its long, flipper-like arms have rounded tips. Phione has a red, oval gem on its chest and a single rudimentary foot spike.

Phione inflates the sac on its head to drift in the water and search for food. When the water grows warm, it will drift in packs with other members of its species. No matter how far it has drifted, it will always return to the place where it was born.

==In the anime==
[[File:Phione Supersonic.png|thumb|250px|left|Phione in the anime]]
===Major appearances===
Multiple Phione made their debut appearance in the anime in ''[[DP113|Hold the Phione!]]'' where one was attracted to [[Dawn's Buneary]].
{{-}}

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}
{{Animedexbody|DP113|Phione|Dawn's Pokédex|Phione, the Sea Drifter Pokémon. Phione lives in warm oceans. It inflates the flotation sac on its head allowing it to float on the waves and look for {{pkmn|food}}.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond & Pearl''|Sinnoh}}

==In the manga==
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
[[File:Phione Adventures.png|thumb|right|200px|Phione in Pokémon Adventures]]
Phione made its debut in ''[[PS441|Alternate Dimension Showdown XI]]'', where it was revealed to have hatched from an Egg created by {{p|Manaphy}}.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Phione (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
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{{Dex/Entry1|v=Platinum|entry=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=HeartGold|v2=SoulSilver|entry=When the water warms, they inflate the flotation sac on their heads and drift languidly on the sea in packs.}}
|}
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{{Dex/Gen|gen=V}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black|v2=White|t=FFF|entry=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black 2|v2=White 2|t=FFF|entry=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.}}
|}
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{{Dex/Gen|gen=VI}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=X|t=FFF|entry=When the water warms, they inflate the flotation sac on their heads and drift languidly on the sea in packs.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Y|entry=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Omega Ruby|t=fff|entry=When the water warms, they inflate the flotation sac on their heads and drift languidly on the sea in packs.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Alpha Sapphire|t=FFF|entry=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Footer}}

===Game locations===
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{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Omega Ruby|v2=Alpha Sapphire|area=[[Poké Transporter]]}}
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====In side games====
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{{Availability/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=IV}}
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===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=water |
HP= 80 |
Attack= 80 |
Defense=80 |
SpAtk= 80 |
SpDef= 80 |
Speed= 80 }}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon|
|type=Water
|Speed=4
|SpeedMax=5
|Power=1
|PowerMax=2
|Technique=3
|TechniqueMax=5
|Stamina=1
|StaminaMax=3
|Jump=2
|JumpMax=3
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{TypeEffectiveness|
type1=water|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |
Fairy= 100}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
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{{learnlist/level6|Start|Bubble|Water|Special|40|100|30||'''|Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|Start|Water Sport|Water|Status|—|—|15}|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|9|Charm|Fairy|Status|—|100|20|||Cute|2|1}}
{{learnlist/level6|16|Supersonic|Normal|Status|—|55|20|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|24|Bubble Beam|Water|Special|65|100|20||'''|Beautiful|2|3}}
{{learnlist/level6|31|Acid Armor|Poison|Status|—|—|20|||Tough|1|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|39|Whirlpool|Water|Special|35|85|15||'''|Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|46|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20||'''|Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|54|Aqua Ring|Water|Status|—|—|20|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|61|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10||'''|Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|69|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/levelf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM07|Hail|Ice|Status|—|—|10|||Beautiful|2|1}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|60|100|15|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM13|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|90|100|10|||Beautiful|1|4}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM14|Blizzard|Ice|Special|110|70|5|||Beautiful|1|3}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25|||Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|||Cute|2|3}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|||Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|||Cool|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15|||Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM55|Scald|Water|Special|80|100|15||'''|Tough|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM56|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Clever|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM86|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20|||Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM88|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM89|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20|||Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM94|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|{{sup/6|ORAS}}||Clever|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM99|Dazzling Gleam|Fairy|Special|80|100|10|||Beautiful|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM100|Confide|Normal|Status|—|—|20|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|HM03|Surf|Water|Special|90|100|15||'''|Beautiful|2|2}}
{{learnlist/tm6|HM05|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15||'''|Tough|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|HM07|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10|{{sup/6|ORAS}}|'''|Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tmf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/breed6null}}
{{learnlist/breedf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Bounce|Flying|Physical|85|85|5|||no|yes|Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Covet|Normal|Physical|60|100|25|||no|yes|Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Heal Bell|Normal|Status|—|—|5|||no|yes|Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20|||no|yes|Clever|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|||no|yes|Beautiful|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Knock Off|Dark|Physical|65|100|25|||no|yes|Clever|2|3}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Last Resort|Normal|Physical|140|100|5|||no|yes|Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Signal Beam|Bug|Special|75|100|15|||no|yes|Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Snore|Normal|Special|50|100|15|||no|yes|Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Uproar|Normal|Special|90|100|10|||no|yes|Cute|2|1}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20||'''|no|yes|Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tutorf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=water |
ndex=489 |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=100 |
iq=B |
Ranger3=yes |
group3=Water |
assist3=Water |
field3=Cut |
field3power=2 |
browser3=It attacks by spitting bubbles that make Pokémon Slowed. |
rumble=yes|
rumbleattack=3|
rumbledefense=3|
rumblespeed=3|
rumble2=yes|
rumble2attack=3|
rumble2defense=3|
rumble2speed=3|
}}

===Evolution===
{{Evobox
|family=Breedonly
|sprite1=489Phione
|name1=Phione
|type1-1=Water
|evotype1=None
|sprite2=490Manaphy
|name2=Manaphy
|type1-2=Water
}}

===Sprites===
{{Spritebox/Header|type=Water}}
{{Spritebox/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Spritebox/4|ndex=489}}
{{Spritebox/5|ndex=489}}
{{Spritebox/6|ndex=489}}
{{Spritebox/Footer|489|Phione}}

==Trivia==
* Phione is the only Pokémon that is obtainable by breeding a [[Mythical Pokémon]].
* Breeding either {{p|Manaphy}} or Phione can produce a Phione Egg, but Phione is unable to evolve into Manaphy nor produce Eggs that can hatch into Manaphy.
** Consequently, Phione and Manaphy are the only {{tt|Mythical Pokémon|although Phione's Mythical status is disputed}} that can be bred.
* Phione, {{p|Nidoran♂}}, {{p|Nidoran♀}}, {{p|Illumise}} and {{p|Volbeat}} are the only Pokémon that can be obtained by breeding a Pokémon they cannot evolve into.
* Phione shares the exact same base stats with {{p|Glalie}}.
* Phione is not found in any regional Pokédex.
* If it were counted as a [[Mythical Pokémon]], Phione would have the lowest [[base stats|base stat total]] out of all Legendary or Mythical Pokémon.

===Legendary status===
Phione's status as a [[Mythical Pokémon]] is disputed, with several pieces of evidence and even official statements often contradicting each other.

====Evidence for====
* In [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]: [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|Explorers of Time, Darkness]] and [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|Sky]], Phione has a 100% recruit rate, is never battled, and the player is not allowed to recruit more than one to their team, all of which are traits otherwise only exhibited by Legendary and Mythical Pokémon.
* Phione is banned from the {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}}, the [[Battle Subway]], the [[Pokémon World Tournament]], and the [[Battle Maison]], a rule which typically applies only to Mythical Pokémon and major Legendary Pokémon. The only confirmed non-Legendary Pokémon to have been event-only at one point, {{p|Zorua}} and {{p|Zoroark}}, were allowed in the Battle Subway, indicating Phione's battle facility ban may be due to its status.
* Phione [[List of Pokémon that do not appear in any regional Pokédex|is not found in any regional Pokédex]], a trait that is otherwise exclusive to [[Generation IV]] Legendary and Mythical Pokémon.
* In [[Pokémon Rumble Blast]], Phione can only be unlocked once a certain number of customers have shopped at the Toy Shop, a trait otherwise exclusive to Legendary and Mythical Pokémon.
* Phione was featured in Pokémon.com's 2012 [http://www.pokemon.com/powerbracket/us/ Pokémon Power Bracket], a single-elimination tournament where all other Pokémon in the bracket were Legendary and Mythical Pokémon.
* Phione is a usable Pokémon in the recently announced [[Rotation Battle]] tournament ''Circle of Legends'' where only Legendary and Mythical Pokémon are allowed.

====Evidence against====
* Phione can breed to produce another Phione; this is impossible with any other Legendary and Mythical Pokémon. However, Manaphy can also breed to produce Phione, and Manaphy is a confirmed Mythical Pokémon.
* [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver: Prima's Official Strategy Guide]] states that Phione is not Legendary.
* In [[Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs]], all Legendary Pokémon are referred to as Legendary, and all Mythical Pokémon are referred to as "rare," but Phione is neither. It is also found normally in the wild.
* In the survey launched by The Pokémon Company International in 2015, Phione is not mentioned as a Mythical Pokémon.

====Other====
* [[Pokémon.com]]'s mailbag was once asked if Phione was Legendary. The official answer was initially no, but was quickly changed to yes; the whole mailbag section has since been taken down with the restructure of Pokémon.com.
* Originally, Phione was not needed in order to complete the [[National Pokédex]], as with other Mythical Pokémon. However, beginning with [[Pokémon X and Y]], it is needed to qualify for the [[diploma]].

===Origin===
{{bulbanews|On the Origin of Species: Manaphy and Phione}}
Phione is probably based on {{wp|sea angel}}s, specifically {{wp|clione}}. Clione are remarkably popular in Japanese documentaries, especially in {{wp|Hokkaido}}, on which Sinnoh is based (this may also explain their appearance in [[Chocovine Town]]).

====Name origin====
Phione may be a combination of the final syllable of ''{{p|Manaphy}}'' and ''{{wp|clione}}'' (sea angels). Like clione, Phione is pronounced in three syllables.

==References==
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==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=water|type2=water
|ja=フィオネ ''Phione''|jameaning=From a combination of final syllable of ''{{p|Manaphy}}'' and ''clione'' (sea angels)
|de=Phione|demeaning=Same as Japanese name
|fr=Phione|frmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|es=Phione|esmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|it=Phione|itmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|ko=피오네 ''Pione''|komeaning=Transliteration of Japanese name
|zh_cmn=霏歐納 ''Fēi Ōu Nà''|zh_cmnmeaning=Transliteration of Japanese name
}}
 

==External links==

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{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Promotion-only Pokémon]]
[[Category:Pokémon in no regional Pokédex]]

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Talk:Phione (Pokémon)

2015-07-03T17:02:37Z

Shepeedy: /* The status dispute? */

==Phione- Legendary or not?==
Can phione really be considered a legendary? It is by no means limited to one a game cartridge as legendary Pokemon are, given that it can breed with Ditto as well as any Magnemite, Rotom, or Baltoy. It's base stats are the same as Glalie's. Which is NOT legendary. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in order to be a legendary, doesn't a Pokemon have to be only one per game without trading, and have at least SOMEWHAT good stats? {{unsigned|Missingno. Master}}
:In my opinion, it's okay the way this article puts it. It doesn't mention Phione being a legendary, yet it's in the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Sinnoh_Legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon legendary category] because it's related to Manaphy (and its Pokédex number is among legendaries). Kind of like an honorable mention in lists, but still not worth of mentioning a legendary status when talking about Phione itself. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:43, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
::Hmm... It's because of the criterion of mine I mentioned in the last paragraph that I didn't like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Phione_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&diff=142880&oldid=142060 this update]. I wonder if somebody agrees with me. Was it really necessary to mention that "it's still considered a legendary"? --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 00:30, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
:My opinion is that Phione is classed as a legendary Pokémon because of it's relation to Manaphy as Johans has said. Also, legendary Pokémon do not evolve. Phione does not evolve into Manaphy either therefore, it must have some legendary traits. [[User:Tesh|Tesh]]
:You know, I'd have to say Phione is best classified as legendary. It's a derivative of a legendary - more closely tied to a true legendary Pokémon than Mewtwo is to Mew. It's a black sheep of the lot, but still pretty legendary, I think. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 02:18, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
::What's the role of the Phione species in Mystery Dungeon 2? I still vote for never mentioning explicitly "Phione is a legendary" until the whole franchise hints it well enough. This means official text saying it's a legendary, side games with extraordinary plots related to Phione, whether or not it will protagonize a hosou or a story arc, whether or not it will be a bonus Poké Ball in Super Smash Bros. Brawl... IDK... Stuff like that. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 22:44, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Before continuing with the edit war on the Trivia section, I must say I agree with Missingno. Master on removing that line from the Trivia section which says "Without using cheats or trading, Phione is the only legendary Pokémon that a player can have more that one of". The reason to put it back (as seen [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Phione_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&diff=next&oldid=255470 here]) is based just on the template. Such unability to say whether Phione is legendary or not only makes that line worthy of being removed IMO. Something can be an exception, but you can't tell if this one is. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 17:35, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:It's because I suck at reasons. XD; [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 17:37, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

If Pokemon.com says Phione is legendary, Phione is legendary! Phione is most likely considered legendary because it is '''of legend''' in the same way Mew and Arceus have legends surrounding them. I don't actually recall Nintendo or the Pokemon franchise explicitly state what the benchmark is for a legendary. The classifications for a legendary, (such as only one per game, high stats and inability to breed), were most likely assumed after the second Generation or so and were constatly reinforced with more legendaries fitting the criteria.
Maybe the classification has just been broken.

Phione is definately legendary but it's caused so much debate because it doesn't fit into the assumed criteria. [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 13:00, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Phione is a conundrum. I really don't think of it as legendary, as it is "legendary" the same way Rotom is. Rotom is rare and has the legendary music play, but reproduces more of its own kind with Ditto; Phione's breeding is exactly like Rotom's. It traces its lineage from legends but doesn't have the stats to match up. Mewtwo is considered legendary due to its "one-of-a-kind" status and immense power. I say Phione is more of an "Almost, but not quite Legendary" pokemon, as it basically lacks that one special (probably yellow) element or essence that Manaphy has that makes it legendary. So, I think it's not like Phione is a demotion to borderline-legendary status, I think it's more like Manaphies being "Chosen Phiones" who are more powerful and pure (and legendary) as a result. This occasional legendary status isn't passed down from this special "Phione", and thus its children are normal Phiones. I don't think this debate would be so hectic if breeding wasn't the only way to obtain Phione. I say Phione belongs in the same category as Rotom as far as legendary status is concerned (Which is no) That's actually not a bad theory, that Manaphy are stronger Phione rather than Phione being weaker Manaphy. [[User:Kohdok|Kohdok]] 08:53, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

:Phione isn't a legendary. Multiple Phione can be bred from Manaphy. Multiple Phione can be bred from Phione. Also, its base stats aren't very high. I don't know why its banned from the Battle Tower, but likely because they are too delicate for competitive battling. [[User:Dusknoir477|Dusknoir477]] 09:13, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

"Phione is a legendary because it can be obtained by breeding a [[Manaphy]], and Manaphy is a legendary. Yes, it is a baby pokemon, but it's cool that a [[baby pokemon]] is a legendary. The only reason it's band from the [[Battle Frontier]] is because it IS A LEGENDARY!!!!! (duh) --[[User:Platinum giratina13|Platinum giratina13]] 21:44, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

As per my above post, has anyone actually read or heard Nintendo state what actually MAKES a Legendary a Legendary? With the arrival of the Phione/Manaphy legendary debate, the assumed criteria of not being able to breed, one-of-a-kind-ness, and high stats would technically be outdated as Phione and Manaphy are confirmed legenderies.
Accoriding to the "new" rules, the only criteria for a legendary to be legendary is for Nintendo to say it's legendary! END OF STORY! [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 20:05, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Phione is not legendary. However, evolution cannot be the only criteria because when togepi was introduced it was considered to be legendary but it now is part of a three-tier evolutionary line. {{unsigned|Mtn otter}}

== Baby Pokemon? ==
Is it really ok to designate it as a Baby? It really doesn't fit any of the criteria of a Baby Pokemon. I mean it can breed, and to my understanding, Phione isn't a pre-evolution of Manaphy (As exemplified by the fact that it can't ever evolve into it. >_>) so much as a Manaphy that was bred in colder waters. --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 04:18, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

It's not a baby Pokémon. Baby Pokémon evolve and can't breed. Phione breeds and can't evolve. --
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 14:06, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

== This... Egg move... ==

Okay, weeks ago I taught my Manaphy the move {{m|Waterfall}}, and I recently got a Ditto. Today, when my first Phione hatched from its Egg, guess what? It knew Waterfall!! But why in the world no Pokémon site mentions it? Not even [http://www.legendarypokemon.net Legendary Pokémon], the first people to publicly hack the game, talk of this. Maybe now that Manaphy was given away in an easier way, more people can help me confirming this (maybe it's an in-game bug or something? Or some game mechanics that have been overlooked?).

<blockquote>
===By [[breeding]]===

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|- style="background: #{{water color}};"
![[Generation IV]]
|-
| '''{{M|Waterfall}}'''
|}
</blockquote>

Please do discuss. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 02:18, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

It's an HM. That's why. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ 02:20, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:Oh... Does it always happen with babies and HM moves then? ^_^' And why isn't it valid to place it in the learnset lists? Is it because it's "obvious"? --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 03:26, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, and yes. It's listed under... breeding... i think. [[User:Inker|Inker]] 21:58, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
:Always happens with compatible HMs and TMs. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:06, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
:They grow up so fast. {{unsigned|Mtn otter}}

== Pssssst ==

Well well well, I just checked Pokemon.com and they just said Phione is indeed, not legendary. Aww shoot, I totally thought it was. Go to the mailbag. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 04:09, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:does that mean i can use it in the PBR little cup? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:21, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
::No because all the Pokémon you use have to be a pre-evolution of another Pokémon. And since Phione doesn't evolve well... --'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]''' '''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]''' 04:26, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:::oh well. its not like i have PBR anyway. (oh the irony!!) '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:27, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, I absolutely HATE to say I told you so.... But what the heck! I told you so! =D --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 11:40, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:Ah, contradiction. [http://www.pokemon.com/#mailbag_02042008 This] is also from Pokemon.com's mailbag, saying that Phione ''is'' legendary. // [[User talk:Szayel Aporro|'''''SzayelAporroGranz''''']] 19:22, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
WHAT?! This is impossible! Why would they change their answer??? HOW can something with Glalie's base stats be legendary?! --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 20:02, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:Yessss! I totally thought Phione was legendary, I mean, it IS related to one anyway. Anyway, no more fricking revert/edit wars now. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 20:14, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Why are you so happy? Phione breaks all the laws of legendaries- it can breed, it has bad stats, you can have more than one of them in PMD2... This upsets me, because all my carefully reasoned arguements, which by all rights should've been right, have been proven wrong! Plus, this means that if I use Phione in competitive battle, I'll be breaking my own rule of no legendaries. D< --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 20:18, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe because I actually THOUGHT Phione was a legendary? There's a word that you might want to hear about-- Exceptions. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 20:20, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
But how can Phione be an exception to EVERY SINGLE RULE THAT DEFINES A LEGENDARY, AND STILL BE A LEGENDARY?! '''IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.''' --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 20:22, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
::Yea, it says here http://www.pokemon.com/#mailbag_02042008 that it is legendary....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:47, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Lol yeah, we reverted the 'non-legendary' things a while ago. *points up to Szayel's post* [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:49, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Let's not forget that there was never a specific "rule" that said legendaries couldn't do what Phione does. After all, Latios and Latias didn't break the legendary genderless rule, they were merely the first legendaries with genders. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 08:58, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Plus, Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres were sort of confirmed to lay eggs in [[Pokemon Snap]], though I'm not sure if that counts or not.

~~Weedle_McHairybug~~

I recall an episode, no, three episodes of ''Pokémon: Master Quest'' where Ash encountered a Lugia and a baby Lugia. Does that mean Legendary Pokémon can have babies, in this case Manaphy getting Phione? [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 18:51, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:Some Legendaries have been shown to breed outside of the main series, like the three Birds in ''Snap''. But Phione is not a baby Manaphy because it can never become a Manaphy. Perhaps if one were to breed a Manaphy in Fiore then one would get another Manaphy egg. Of course, Manaphy eggs can't appearantly hatch in Fiore. This is all speculation, of course. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

But Phione can get another Phione as a baby.[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 02:36, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, but you can also breed a Magnemite to get another Magnemite. That doesn't classify it as a baby Pokémon. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 13:44, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, the classification of "Baby Pokémon" is that they're too young to breed. I forgot that until now.[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 14:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Just a thought: I still don't feel naming Phione a legendary Pokémon for a reason like that (the mailbox from Pokémon.com) is enough. What about Japanese denominations (densetsu, maboroshi, shinwa)? Which one is Phione? Bulbapedia is an output from us, but it's an input to many people. Saying Phione is a legendary because of that may be unhelpful if players organize battles or even trades where "legendaries aren't allowed" and they want to believe in this article instead of believing in sites that base themselves on stats and stuff. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 20:33, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

An excellent point. How do we know Pokemon.com is correct? They changed their answer once before, which could indicate that they themselves don't have any idea, and are just guessing. Really, the only ones who'd know for sure are the creators themselves, the ones who actually came up with Phione. We can't count on Pokemon.com to know what the creators were thinking. So I'd say Phione's legendary status would still be uncertain. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 14:26, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

:I think that given its place in the Pokédex and how it was required to have a Legendary Pokémon to obtain should be enough proof. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:37, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, so Dratini, Dragonair, and Dragonite are legendaries, because they're squeezed in between the bird trio and Mewtwo, are they? They are according to your logic. And secondly, just because a legendary Pokemon breeds to make a different species altogether, doesn't mean that the different species is also a legendary. Now, if Phione was unable to breed and had better stats, I would think it's a legendary. But anything with base stats equal to Glalie's and the ability to breed with Ditto like crazy? I mean, isn't the whole thing behind legendaries the fact that they're supposed to be HARD TO GET? And Phione can frickin' breed! Nintendo's never let us get more than one of each legendary per game w/o trading. Alright, here is, as I percieve it, the main points in the Phione Legendary Argument;
Phione must be legendary because;
*It is bred from another legendary
*Its position in the Pokédex
*Genderless
Phione CAN'T be a legendary because;
*Its stats are mediocre at best
*It can breed, and therefore more than one per game cart can be easily obtained

And two of the points that say it's legendary I have already shot down. The Dragonite, Tyranitar, and Metagross families are squeezed between legendaries, and does that make them legendaries? No, it does not! Does Phione's position in the Pokédex classify it as a legendary? Absolutely not! And maybe it is bred from another legendary- does that actually MEAN anything about Phione's legendary status? No! Mew was said to be the ancestor of all Pokémon, does that mean that every single Pokémon in existance is legendary? I didn't think so! And the stats! The one major consistancy about legendaries (aside from the whole can't breed thing) is their good stats. And Glalie's base stats are not good. Now then, based on that argument, I'd say Phione cannot in any way in any form, shape, or existance, be a legendary, and you'd be insane to think it is. Thank you and have a nice day. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 11:45, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

:The families you mentioned are not Legendary because they are ''families''. Phione does not evolve from or into another Pokémon. Don't be so stubborn... Phione is a Legendary, and [[MissingNo.]] isn't a real Pokémon. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:41, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

::Until recently, Roselia couldn't evolve into or from anything else. And don't drag MissingNo. into this. The fact that they are families means nothing. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 18:46, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

:::The fact that they are families means everything because Legendaries do not evolve. Which is why they can be surrounded by Legendary Pokémon in the Pokédex and not be considered. And you brought them up. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:04, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

::::Well, Rotom doesn't evolve and is oddly squeezed in between a bunch of evolutions and legendaries, and is it a legendary? Definitely not. Some people even thought it WAS a legendary for that reason (and the fact that legendary battle music played when it was battled), and yet, they were WRONG! Evolutions notwithstanding, the mere fact that there CAN be non-legendaries sandwiched between legendaries in the Pokédex means that Phione's position in said Pokédex doesn't mean a thing. And just because something doesn't evolve to or from anything doesn't mean it won't. Again, I point out Roselia as a prime example here. Dang thing got a pre-evo AND an evolution in the same generation! Now, I know Pokémon.com said that Phione is legendary, but they originally said it wasn't. The mere fact that they changed their answer indicates that they are doubtful. They could be guessing. Phione breaks the two cardinal rules that define legendaries; rarity (Phione can breed with Ditto to create more Phione), and strength (base stats of Glalie-not good). Legendaries are supposed to have at least DECENT base stats, and Phione's stats? Far from it. Most importantly, and this is the point most of you are overlooking, legendaries are supposed to be ONE PER GAME, sans trading/events. And Phione can BREED. Legendaries aren't SUPPOSED to reproduce in the games like this! That's why Phione was created in the first place-so Manaphy could lay eggs that hatched into something other than itself, so people wouldn't be running around with a *bleep*load of Manaphy on one game. Now THINK about that for a while, won't you? I propose that Phione's legendary status be labeled as "unconfirmed" until we get irrefutable proof of its legendary status (or lack thereof) by those who would know. Let's wait and see how the Anime portrays it, for example. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 10:52, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Cardinal rule that defines legendaries? There are none, and there hasn't been one that didn't get thrown out the window in the last two generations besides the fact that they can't evolve.
:::::Also, don't use Roselia for an example. Just because it can't evolve doesn't mean it's a legendary, but because Phione's legendary it cannot evolve. Squares and rectangles, you see. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:05, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Exactly. And I ''highly'' doubt that Manaphy will ever gain an evo or even a prevo. Rotom, on the other hand, is more likely. Besides, who ever said that base stats defined legendary status? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:48, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nobody... It's more of an intuitive meaning. Like, most Pokémon movies and major story arcs are protagonized by legendary Pokémon. In the anime, legendary Pokémon are "powerful". And non-coincidentally, their stats are high in the Pokémon games, which is an accurate meaning for "powerful". --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
::Doesn't mean they couldn't make a crappy legendary. As of Gen I, the rules were ONE PER GAME, HIGH STATS, and NO EVOLVING. Once Gen II rolled around we got NO GENDER and NO BREEDING. Gen III took down the ONE PER GAME thing since Brandon had the damned Regi and the NO GENDER thing with Lati@s. All Gen IV did was remove NO BREEDING and HIGH STATS, since Phione sucks. Well, actually, not really sucks, just isn't incredibly cheaply high. People want less legendaries, how the hell else are they going to do anything unless they gradually reduce legendaries into little more than normal Pokémon? Sheesh, Heatran has a variable gender! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:45, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Oh, sure, they COULD create a crappy legendary, but why would they? Legendary Pokémon have always been portrayed as powerful Pokémon that cannot breed. Legendary Pokémon are put up high on pedestals by those who create them. Legendaries sell movies. It's clear that the creators of Pokémon want the public to have a high opinion of legendaries, so why wreck it with a legendary that you can get a *bleep*load of in any given game, and that has less than decent stats? I don't think they would. Now, I want any one of you to list for me all the overwhelming reasons that prove beyond conclusive doubt that Phione is a legendary. Anyone? Nobody? OK, let me think here.... Oh, I know! Phione's bred from Manaphy! My goodness! Oh, how I must have been mistaken! Oh, Phione's bred from Manaphy! Son of cheese, that MUST mean it's legendary! Anyone who agreed with my last two sentences is a complete imbecile. For the love of Arceus, people, just because a Pokémon can be hatched from an egg that has been laid by a Legendary Pokémon doesn't mean that the offspring is legendary! Pichu hatch from eggs laid by Pikachu and Raichu, so does that make Pikachu and Raichu baby Pokémon? Of course not! Now, I want you people to think- just THINK- about it for a moment. Given the evidence I have presented, not just now, but over my entire career of arguing that Phione cannot be legendary, versus the single, measly fact that it can be bred from Manaphy, not to mention an entirely unconvincing letter from Pokémon.com (in which, may I remind you all, they changed their answer, indicating that they don't really know and are more than likely guessing), can you REALLY, in sound mind and complete sanity, STILL say, with the utmost conviction, that Phione is a legendary? DIDN'T THINK SO! OH, DUH! I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 01:29, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Phione is legendary... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 02:14, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:Phione's legendary status is debatable as we have not received word from the Jap creators. But still, Phione is legendary because it can ShoopWhoop. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:37 2 Jul 2008'''''
:If Phione's not legendary, neither is Manaphy. Neither is Mewtwo. Manaphy is hatched from an egg, it matters not that you can't dump it in the daycare and get more Manaphy. The reason FOR Phione is just that: they KNEW that after getting an egg with Manaphy people would try for more, breed with Ditto, and end up whining if it were like Mew or Celebi. So they made Phione to trick people. As for Mewtwo, it was created by humans. No legend there. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:13, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
And why do you think they did that with Manaphy in the first place? So people couldn't get more easily! Phione, on the other hand, can breed. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 14:15, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

:Which makes Phione the first legendary that can successfully breed. No one ever said that all legendaries have to fit into some definable category forever more. And the fact that it's stats are lacking is because it can breed. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:50, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

::YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT! The mere fact that Manaphy can breed, but not to create more Manaphy, indicates that legendaries aren't SUPPOSED to breed! As I've previously stated, if the fact that Manaphy can breed to make Phione is the only argument for Phione's legendary status, then it's a real feeble-ass argument, as, if Phione were indeed a legendary, then it would be the only legendary with breeding capabilities and mediocre stats, and I don't think that that's all that likely! Think about it! If they were going to make it so legendaries were breedable, there would be no Phione, and Manaphy could just lay more Manaphy eggs! OH DUH! I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 16:52, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

It was never set in stone that legendaries cannot breed and have to be one of a kind. If Nintendo and Game Freak want to make a sub-par legendary, then SO BE IT!!! Obviously the person who stated that Phione was not legendary was mistaken, and they corrected that mistake. Things change. Nothing has to be the exact same every generation. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:26, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

:OK, what you're saying WOULD make a lot of sense, if it didn't indicate that you never actually comprehended my arguments. THINK! If Nintendo and Game Freak wanted to create a breedable legendary at all, Phione wouldn't even exist, as the only reason they made it was that Manaphy could lay eggs without them hatching into more Manaphy! They would've just made Manaphy able to produce more Manaphy eggs! But they didn't! They made Manaphy able to breed a completely different species, and THAT species can breed, and it can't evolve into Manaphy. You know what this means? LEGENDARIES ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BREED, AND PHIONE IS LIVING PROOF! Now I agree, they COULD make a sub-par legendary. My point, however, is, WHY WOULD THEY? Look at the movies- legendary Pokémon are constantly spoken of with reverence, portrayed as grand, majestic, powerful, and rare, depictions that hold true in the games. Now, do you REALLY think that they'd besmirch the good name of legendaries, which they have worked so hard to glorify, by creating a legendary as common as Bidoof and as weak as Glalie? DIDN'T THINK SO! And before anyone replies to this, why don't you actually READ what I type, and let it sink in, let the gears of reason start turning in your head, and don't just come up with another lame excuse of an excuse as to why Phione is STILL legendary, despite all my well-reasoned arguments proving otherwise. Thank you. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 11:27, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

::<<sigh>>... The games and the movies are made by different people and follow completely different canon. According to the anime, Unown are legendary and powerful. Plus, who's to say that you can't produce more Manaphy eggs in a future generation? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:15, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

:::Missingno. Master, I don't really think that the Games even held Legendaries as being high, majestic, and one of a kind. If they had, Brandon would NOT have had the three Golems OR the three Birds (the former of which can ALSO be caught in the wild), Palmer would NOT have owned Heatran, Cresselia, and Regigigas. Also, I won't get too spoilerific, but in Movie 11, let's just say that Shaymin isn't the only one of it's kind (Then again, considering the same event that Shaymin debuted in had a similar white rock located in Kanto (not to mention it being obtained in Almia), it was also hinted that it wasn't really one of a kind there either.). And anyways, even IF you can't breed Manaphies from Manaphies in Sinnoh, the mere fact that it HAD an egg proves that it can breed from another Manaphy, which would hint that, by your logic, it's not even a legendary. Also, the three dogs, Rayquaza, Groudon, Kyogre, Celebi, Mew, and Deoxys wouldn't have multiple members in Fiore (If Manaphy is counted as an official Main Legendary despite originating from a Spinoff game, then I'm going to count Fiore as a main game region as well.). the three dogs, Lugia, and Ho-Oh would ALSO have not appeared in Kanto/Sevii Islands if that was the case. heck, the three dogs, Ho-Oh, Lugia, the three birds, and Celebi would NOT have existed in Orre at all if they were one of a kind. The three Regis would ALSO have not existed in Sinnoh at ALL if legendaries were truly one of a kind. So please stop acting as though they shouldn't have multitudes. In fact, the only legendary pokemon that HASN'T had multitudes period is Mewtwo itself. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 11:06, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
::::But, the fact still remains that in the games, legendaries are supposed to be one per cartridge. Manaphy itself is proof of this- if legendaries weren't intended to be one per cartridge, Phione wouldn't exist, as Manaphy would be able to produce more Manaphy. That's why Phione exist- to prevent Manaphy from breeding more Manaphy. And Phione are certainly NOT one per cartridge, as anyone with a Phione, a Ditto, and access to a daycare center can easily get as many Phione as they wish. And then there is the matter of its stats. Legendary Pokemon are powerful. They have good stats. They can learn Hyper Beam and other powerful moves. Phione has base 80 stats all around and can't learn Hyper Beam or any variant. It has no exclusive move (true, not all legendaries do). It doesn't even learn all the moves Manaphy can. And it doesn't learn ANY move Manaphy can't. True, this does not conclusively prove Phione to not be legendary, but it certainly lends a hefty amount of support towards that side of the issue. Certainly more than "It's bred from Manaphy, it must be legendary". - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 02:34, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::I can come up with better. It says so right there on Pokemon.com. Yes, I get that they corrected the answer. You're just reading into WHY it was. It's a wild guess, but I'm betting that the IT person who updates the website isn't intricately connected with anyone who makes or translates the games. He tried to answer it on his own, did it incorrectly, and was corrected. Either way, if you have a better source than POKEMON.COM that that says it isn't a legendary, I'd like to see it.
::::::As for all this talk about "Legends are this, legends are that", none of it is true. The only requirement to be a "Legendary Pokemon" is to be deemed one by Game Freak. What moves they learn are largely irrelevant, because many Pokemon have vast move pools. Gen 3 and 4 often have Legends as Plot Devices, but it doesn't hold true to Gen I, II, and those that are exclusive to events.[[User:Randomspot555|Randomspot555]] 22:06, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't know why the so-called MissigNo. Master is so upset that Phione is a legendary! I could say more reasons why it is I just don't want to, and some of them are already said, becasue it's so obvious! It is!!! DEAL WITH IT! Now, another reason nobody has said or at least so far I've read, it makes no sense to make a legendary Pokémon to breed ''into''(I don't know which preposition goes here) a not-legendary one. That's just not logic!, I mean, we all know Manaphy IS legendary right, then why would it be able to bread (into another species, anyway) into a not legendary?? MAKES NO SENSE, it is legendary despite its "bad stats", ability to breed and it doesn't evolve, even into the species it can come from, etc..

Would other legendary breed (if more could) into a not-legendary one? for example a Moltres if it could breed together with Ditto... you think the baby would be a, say, Growlithe? Of course not, It would be, I don't know, a new species, or another Moltres and it would still be a legendary.

Pokémon is in constant change, they created a new kind of legendary, maybe the only one of its kind -that can breed-, or at least so far, who says that maybe in next generations more and new legendaies will not be able to breed?? Maybe they would! People really need to start THINKING about the logic in here, and the BIG, really big POSIBILITY that it could be a legendary!--[[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 18:38, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

:Reviving this argument, I will just have what I hope to be my final say in this. Thus far, here are the facts:

Phione must be legendary because;
*It is bred from another legendary
*Its position in the Pokédex
*Genderless
*Pokémon.com said so

Phione CAN'T be a legendary because;
*Its stats are mediocre at best
**Legendaries have stats that are decent at the least.
*Inordinate amounts of them appeared in the anime, more than any legendary.
**It's rare to see more than one of any given species of legendary in the anime, let alone in the same episode. No less than six appeared in [[DP113]].
*It can breed, and therefore more than one per game cart can be easily obtained
**It's a well-known fact that legendaries are supposed to be one per game cart, outside of trading.

The points in the "Phione must be legendary" column are <strike>full of crap</strike> inconclusive because;
*Manaphy can breed to create Phione for the sole purpose of preventing the breeding of more Manaphy, which right there proves that legendaries are not supposed to breed. See, if legendaries were supposed to breed, Phione wouldn't even exist, as Manaphy would be able to create more of itself.
*Dratini, Larvitar, and their evolutions are sandwiched in between groups of legendaries in most Pokédex entries, and they're not legendaries.
*Voltorb, Magneton, Baltoy, Metang, and Rotom are all genderless. None of them are legendary.
*Pokémon.com also said that Shaymin's Sky Forme had Natural Cure, that Swallow was a new attack for Generation IV, and that there was a Staraptor in Jumping Rocket Ship. Also, the fact that they changed their answer denotes unsureness.

Now, let me get this through to you. I will say this once, and only once. I will only back down from my argument if, and only if, Satoshi Tajiri ''himself'' personally declares that Phione is a legendary. That, in my opinion, is the only source that will provide a definitive answer. I will accept nothing less. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] says: The [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] is real![[User talk: Missingno. Master|(talk page)]] 22:24, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:Pssssst. '''Legendary''' (''ˈlɛdʒənˌdɛri'') adj. '''1.''' of, pertaining to, or of the nature of a legend. // Phione is allegedly a bringer of good luck to those who see it; tourists flock to Chocovine just to get a glimpse of Phione. That hints at Phione being a rare Pokémon with uncommon abilities, both of which can be associated with a Pokémon of legend. [http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq41/PDLpics/23a814bea263b08a6dee29561e6906dae1d.gif] '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 22:40, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
::I am not getting mad at video games. I am getting mad at people mistaking Phione for a legendary. As for the anime, that actually proves nothing. In the anime, Phione are rare. In the anime, Metagross are damaged by Poison Tail. In the anime, wild Squirtle form troublemaking gangs. In the anime, Dustox can learn Stun Spore. In the anime, Geodude and Golem can be floored by Thunderbolt. In the anime, ahem, PIKACHU! AIM FOR THE HORN! In the games, Phione are easy to get. In the games, Metagross are unaffected by Poison Tail. In the games, there are no wild Squirtle. In the games, Dustox can't learn Stun Spore. In the games, no ground type can be harmed by Thunderbolt. My point being, the anime was made after the games, and do not necessarily need to conform to them. And they don't, in many cases. I admit, it was therefore wrong of me to drag the anime into this argument. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] says: The [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] is real![[User talk: Missingno. Master|(talk page)]] 22:50, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Just because you're too stubborn to admit that you're incorrect doesn't mean you're correct. <3 '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 23:06, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to drag up an old debate again, but I have another point that hasn't been mentioned yet and which crushes MM's arguments: If they didn't want Manaphies to breed Manaphies, then they wouldn't be breedable! --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 07:09, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

== Phione's advantages ==

* Does Phiones have any advantages that Manaphy doesn't have? If not, then what's the point? --[[User:Kid Sonic|Kid Sonic]] 00:13, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
:Irrelevant. Someone remove this. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 00:32, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
::That was rude. Now, in response to the question, Phione does not have any sort of advantage over Manaphy. All its stats are lower, and it doesn't learn any moves Manaphy can't. So no, there is no point other than keeping people from breeding multiple Manaphy. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:07, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
::Except they're not Manaphy. --[[User:Kid Sonic|Kid Sonic]] 05:03, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Exactly. It's there to piss you off because people would be all "O LOL I HAS MANAFY FROM EGG I PUT DAYCARE IT MAKE MOAR MANAFY I PUT ON GTS AND GET MEWTOO". And then you get Phione. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:14, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Random Something Thinks I ==

Why is Phione not in the No eggs group if it's genderless.{{u|Laxafett}}19:41, 18 December 2008(UTC)
:Because it has those egg groups in the game's internal data. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 19:48, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

== Battle Tower ==
I didn't see anyone mention this, surprisingly. But doesn't the fact that it can't be used in the battle tower (or any Frontier facility I'm assuming) prove it's legendary? Every other Pokemon restricted from being used there is a Legendary Pokemon... '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 21:46, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:Probably more because it's semi-event-exclusive, methinks. Not all legendaries are banned from there. All event-exclusive species are banned from there, however. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 21:47, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
::It's true that not all legendaries are banned, but I didn't say that anyway :p I said that all Pokemon that are banned are legendary. The converse isn't true though, as you so pointed out. However, the Aura Sphere-using Riolu from Ranger is also an Event Pokemon and it isn't banned, so there's a hole in your theory. '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 22:53, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I said event-exclusive SPECIES, and for exactly that reason. Riolu can easily be obtained outside an event. Phione, not so much. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:55, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

== Once and for all ==

As has been pointed out before and confirmed on Pokemon.com, Phione is a legendary Pokemon. If anyone has a more reliable source that says otherwise, such as a direct interview with someone in the franchise, please present it. Otherwise, I can't see how the debate can continue. Pokemon.com says so, and no one else has any other sources that say otherwise. Note that I only changed the intro paragraph. The trivia section already reflected it's legend status, and the page on Legendary Pokemon say it's a legend also. [[User:Randomspot555|Randomspot555]] 04:38, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

YES! Finally! Everybody knew it was in fact legendary. [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 19:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Legendary Status has been officially revoked. ==

From the Vol. 1, Pg.27 of the official Pokemon HeartGold & SoulSilver Version guide book: "Since Phione can be obtained by hatching Eggs, it is not classified as a Legendary Pokemon."

The guide book is published by [[The Pokémon Company International]], which is the same company that runs Pokemon.com, the website that originally confirmed it's Legendary status. Obviously they've changed their minds. --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 19:10, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
:''Well, well, well''. I was right the whole time! Now, I don't like to gloat.... Who am I kidding? I ''love'' to gloat! I was right, and you all were wrong! I'm off to change the page! - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 02:51, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::I think it is legendary. Why would the ''exact same'' company ban usage of it in VGC? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:53, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::For the exact same reason they banned Rotom until HG/SS came out. Event exclusive species (formes in Rotom's case). I knew it all along, the evidence was incontrovertible. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 02:58, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::::I still don't feel comfortable about this... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:59, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Oh, well. If the Pokémon Company International, the exact same company in charge of the official Pokémon website, says Phione is not legendary, then it's not legendary. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 03:01, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::They've been wrong before. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:03, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Two things: If TPCi says it's not legendary, how ''else'' are we going to get official confirmation? It's not legendary. There. lol
:::::::The other thing is... you don't need to rub it in everyone's face that you were right. Seriously. Cut it out. >_> ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 03:05, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::...I think I remember My Pokémon Ranch calling it legendary... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:09, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::The Trivia section mentions the conflicting sources, isn't that good enough? Seriously. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 03:11, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::No. See, this is more definitive proof. See, the website, well, they could change it on a whim. But if they were to change their minds and declare Phione a legendary, they'd have to do something about these guidebooks. So if they put in the guidebooks that Phione is not a legendary, they must have been sure about it. Besides which, the conflicting online source no longer exists. If there are no further objections (that contain actual reasoning, not just moaning and whining from people who are just upset that they've been wrong the whole time), I will go ahead and unhide that bit in the intro to the article. It's been a pleasure winning this argument. In all seriousness, however, I am sorry if I came across as rude about this whole ordeal. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 14:27, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

(unindent) I don't see why we can't mention the controversy. If we're not going to cite our sources on a conflicted bit on information, we should at least bring out where it conflicts. That's what good reporting is about. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar{{#ifeq: |Night|_Night}}.png|Pokémon Dollar|link=Pokémon Dollar]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 23:55, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
:MM, the source still exists. Origin.pokemon.com. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 23:57, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
::Oh, so it does. Well, it still doesn't change the fact that a more recent source from the same company has something different. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 01:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:::People should really not forget that guidebooks aren't always correct. Some say things like Cascoon can only be obtained at night, so it could be an error [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 01:35, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::::OK... too much arguing here. First, I couldn't get origin.pokemon.com to work, much less access the mailbag... anyone care to put up a direct link to the specific mailbag that stated Phione's status? Also, I think that Phione should be considered not legendary as TPCI, the most official source in this matter other than TPC or the games themselves, has stated most recently (the HGSS guidebook) that it is not legendary. Arguments about "they could be wrong", "they couldn't be wrong", "they could sometime change their mind as they have before" are invalid, as they only serve to invalidate the other point of view whenever convenient. Its not an issue of the website or the guidebooks being more official, they are both equally official, but as the guidebook is the ''most recent'', Phione should be considered not legendary until TPCI or a more official source states otherwise. However, I believe that stating "it's not a legendary" in the lead of the article is unnecessary; we only put up when it ''is'' legendary, we do not go around and put up in every non-legendary's Pokémon article that it's not legendary.
::::That said, precisely because TPCI has contradicted itself before, and there have been numerous debates on this, I think an entire section explaining everything is in order, maybe under Trivia. I'd put it up in the article myself, but I don't wanna get into an edit war so I'll put it up here for everyone to approve/disapprove of first. Also, I think putting up dates the announcements were made might be necessary too. '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 04:24, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Keep this in mind: the guidebooks are written by idiots. They ''constantly'' screw stuff up and throw in their opinions, not Nintendo's, and their assumptions, not the game programming. It's said that Wurmple evolves depending on time, or on gender, and that was a persistent rumor during Gen III. But we ripped the games apart and verified that no, it's based on the PV. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:34, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::I want to point out here that the Media Factory guidebook (the one from which the English guidebook was translated) indeed states that Phione is not considered legendary. I can't be assed to take an actual picture, but [http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3330177/mfphione.jpg here have a blurry-as-hell webcam picture]. I assure you that it says exactly the same thing as in the English guidebook. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 04:59, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Then Manaphy isn't legendary either, I assume? And what of Unown? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Well, yes, the reasoning of "it's not legendary because it can breed" would exclude Manaphy as a legendary. Though Unown is a moot point, since the reasoning is not "every Pokémon that can't breed is a legendary"... But I digress. On the topic of the trustworthiness of the guides: yes, they have been inaccurate, but the site has contradicted itself also. My point is, they're both equally reliable (or unreliable). I mean, both are TPCI, or rather, people employed at TPCI who could make stuff up or make assumptions. So, we either take both as accurate (and the guide, as the most recent update, states how it is as of now) or neither, and therefore we CAN'T conclusively say Phione is or isn't a legendary. Now that I think of it, maybe that last one is for the best. '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 06:00, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

===Status as a legendary Pokémon===
When Phione was first discovered in the Pokémon games, there was much debate whether or not it should be considered as a [[legendary Pokémon]]. Some said it should be, citing its inability to evolve and its rarity (as it could only be bred initially from an already rare Manaphy), as well as its exclusive relationship to the indisputably legendary {{p|Manaphy}}. Others said it shouldn’t be considered legendary, mentioning its capacity to breed and be hatched from regular eggs, as well as its generally weak stats.
Even [[The Pokémon Company International]] has had conflicting announcements about Phione’s legendary status. Firstly, [[Pokemon.com]] mentioned in its mailbag that Phione was not a legendary Pokémon, but it was changed shortly thereafter, making Phione officially a legendary for a while. Recently, however, the official guidebook of {{2v|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, published also by TPCI, stated that Phione is not a legendary due to its ability to reproduce. Given that this is the latest official update on this Pokémon’s status, it is currently considered to not be a legendary Pokémon.

== Breeding ==
To keep consistency, doesn't Phione need a breeding section "By Breeding/None." I put it up bt someone deleted it >:( so do we need this section or not? It's on Rotom's and other other Pokes that can be obtained through breeding but have no egg moves. [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 01:42, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:Consistency is enjoyed. Plz to be putting it there. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:11, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry about that. I removed it because I thought I had seen other articles without a "by breeding" section. But I must have been wrong. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar{{#ifeq: |Night|_Night}}.png|Pokémon Dollar|link=Pokémon Dollar]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 22:30, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

== Legendary status ==

Thought I'd add this to the start of the article, to settle the legendary argument:

"Phione is considered by some to be a [[legendary Pokémon]]. However, due to the fact that it can breed and multiple individuals can be obtained, its legendary status remains disputed, with contradiction occuring even between official sources." [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 21:40, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

The new Pokémon Ranger game '''definitely''' confirms it as non-legendary. '''CASE CLOSED''' -'''[[User:Gengarzilla|I Liek Gengarz!]] [[User talk:Gengarzilla|Do Joo Liek Dem?]]''' 16:23, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
:It may not be referred to as legendary, but does it explicitly say Phione is ''not'' legendary? If not, then it is certainly not settled "once and for all". '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 08:17, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
::Black and White disagree it seems, as Phione is banned from the Battle Subway. The difference this time around? Zorua and Zoroark, also event Pokemon, are NOT banned, while Phione, despite being recently stated as non-legendary, is still banned. If someone can simply contact Game Freak themselves and not rely on a spin-off, THEN we can confirm it's status once and for all. Better to get the answer from it's original creator yes? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 00:40, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Zorua and Zoroark are slightly easier to get without an event, as you can merely trade for them over the GTS. If you talk to the silent boy in Hiun City, Zorua is recorded as "seen" in your Pokedex, and N uses a Zoroark, so you can search for them. Phione, on the other hand, cannot be seen in any games, and the only way to see Manaphy is to look at Backlot's book in Platinum. And even then there's no guarantee that anyone will trade you a Manaphy over the GTS. And seriously, Phione not being referred to as legendary or rare in Ranger:Guardian Signs when every legendary is? I'm pretty damn sure that can't be a coincidence. Please, let's not drag up this old argument again, as I still have my other valid points as to why Phione can't be legendary. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 00:45, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Honestly, until we get a confirmation directly from Game Freak themselves and not someone else saying it for them, Phione's status is still under debate it seems. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 00:47, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Besides it's not like Phione is breaking Metagames anytime soon unlike Zoroark with it's Illusion ability causing massive mind games..... Regardless of how it is found, Zoroark deserves a banning more than Phione in a way. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 00:49, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::Game Freak are unlikley to reply to any fan e-mails, even if sent in Japanese. But if Phione is confirmed as non-legendary, then a good bit of info for the Trivia section would be "Phione is the only non-legendary Pokemon not in any regional Pokedex." '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 00:53, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::I can be debated either way, but don't base if it's legendary or not based on Pokemon Ranger Games. Because according to Pokémon Ranger Celebi is not legendary it's "rare" :| [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 01:43, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Rare is still legendary. It's just that there are two kinds in Japanese "legendary" and "rare", which this game distinguishes between. Phione gets nothing as if it were a regular Pokémon (because it is). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:04, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Still.... I don't really like trusting spin-offs for this kind of information because sometimes they can make mistakes rather easily (Loads of places mislabel Wurmple's evolution as time based or gender based after all, with even the official site listing it incorrectly last time I checked the site years ago [Doesn't say evolution methods in the modern day site]). I think it's more of a safer opinion if we get an answer from Game Freak, even if they rarely answer, it still seems like a much better option as we can get the truth once and for all... [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 14:06, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Why is everyone making such a big deal out of this? In my opinion, Phione is a legendary Pokemon. However, I am not going to argue for or against it. All I have to say on this matter is this: 1. Since WHEN are side games the deciding factor on the status of the Pokemon.
2. The game does NOT say whether it is legendary or not.
Thus, I would never go so far as to base the status of this Pokemon on what the new ranger game says. I suggest we do not jump to conclusions and say flat out that it is not legendary. I say we just state that its status is disputed. Both sides of the argument have given ample evidence, but neither has any evidence that proves WITHOUT A DOUBT that they are right. I say we wait for an OFFICIAL statement on the matter. Till then, I'm not convinced either way (not that it matters). ([[User:Toolen|Toolen]] 03:00, 18 December 2010 (UTC))

On a side note, is their any way to contact Game Freak on this matter? ([[User:Toolen|Toolen]] 03:04, 18 December 2010 (UTC))
:Ample evidence? For: Pokémon.com mailbag entry (the whole mailbag has since been taken down). Against: Recent official HGSS game guide, Ranger GS. Game Freak would be highly unlikely to respond, even if we could contact them. The side game is not the sole proof, it's the tipping piece of evidence. Due to there no longer being any evidence to support it being legendary, and two pieces against, it is now considered not legendary. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:40, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:: Not to throw more wood onto the fire, but I noticed a user making this edit:

::"However, Director of GameFreak inc, Marc Parker, has stated that Phione is indeed a legendary after months of debating with Kacey Traver, the founder of http://www.smogon.com/"

:: What to make of this? --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 20:00, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
:::If we get a reliable source for that, I think we can change it back to being legendary. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:41, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

I've changed some of the wording in the article so it has a more neutral point of view; at this stage we can't really prove if Phione is legendary or not. If all official sources gave the same answer then of course the article could contain that information, but as the official sources contradict each other, it's best just not to say either way. Although Ranger does seem like the best source to go by, it's still not set in stone, and to say that Phione is not currently classed as legendary is still only Bulbapedia's opinion. Marc Parker's statement would be a good addition to the Trivia section if we can find a reference. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 19:55, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

== Just saying... ==
Phione is in the list of banned Pokémon from the official video game championship. The list only include legendary Pokémon, so... --[[User:SamuStar|SamuStar]] 17:19, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
:Or it is the only non-legendary Pokémon listed. Banlists are indications but not proof. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:21, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
::It's likely because Phione is technically event-only.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 15:53, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
and what about Zorua and Zoroark? They aren't banned --[[User:SamuStar|SamuStar]] 16:29, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Hey guys. I'm new. I have an idea. Phione could be semi-legendary! You know, like in Greek if a god has babies with a mortal, there's a demigod? It makes sense! [[User:Cela08|Cela08]] 16:10, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
:Pokémon aint based on greek in any major way -.- [[User:Jyles|Jyles]] ([[User talk:Jyles|talk]]) 21:37, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
::Did he say Pokemon was based on Greek? No. He said you could GIVE it a title based of a greek title. Not that it had one.[[User:Chris Broach|Chris Broach]] ([[User talk:Chris Broach|talk]]) 23:39, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

== Useless part removed ==

I removed this thing: "though it is placed directly before the [[legendary birds]] in the [[Oblivia Browser]], and cannot be obtained until the game is completed.". It doesn't mean anything: first, the Browser position is irrelevant, given the fact that we don't consider Rotom's position in the National Pokédex; secondly, it's true that it's only found after clearing the main quest, but this applies also to normal Pokémon such as Blastoise and Heracross. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 12:25, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

== Inconsistency ==

I know it was settled above that Phione's Status as a legerendary are disputed and it will be put on the hold until a real source appears, however in several pages, like the Generation V page, Battle Frontier Generation IV, and some others that say Phione is classified as a non-legendary, not mentioning its '''disputed''' status. This is becoming contradictory, since the trivia in Pokémon breeding and Manaphy pages mention Phione being legendary disputed with the *. The Trivia in those other pages should be changed also, because the trivia would be 50 percent wrong (Generation IV having the same number of legendaries with V{{tt|*|With Genenation IV having more if Phione is considered legendary}}; it, Spiky eared Pichu being non-legendaries not able in the facilities{{tt|*|with the latter full confirmed non-legendaries}}) if it is put that away and 100 percente clear with the * disputed.

I think what is important it's not note that Phione being or not legendary, but yes the fact that it can be as is a relative to one. --[[User:Igor Castro Chucre|Igor ]] ([[User talk:Igor Castro Chucre|talk]]) 14:09, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
:They should be changed to mention that its legendary status is disputed, yes. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:27, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
::And its non-legendary status is also disputed. --[[User:Igor Castro Chucre|Igor ]] ([[User talk:Igor Castro Chucre|talk]]) 14:39, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

== Black (2) and White (2) ==
Is it possible to get a Phione egg by breeding Manaphy (hatched from egg which was transferred from Platinum version) and a Ditto in Black/White and Black 2/White 2? Because I've been trying but it seems like they're not producing the egg. (as of yet) Or do I need leave them in the day care centre longer? Can someone please confirm this? --[[User:Chickensdoorknob|ℂℏɨ₡ƙ℮ᵰᵴ∂ⱺ☮яϰŊøɓ]] ([[User talk:Chickensdoorknob|talk]]) 01:45, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
:What does the Day Care man say about their relationship? As long as he doesn't say they prefer to play with other Pokémon, they will breed. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:02, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
::Ok thanks. I currently don't have my DS with me. But from memory, the day-care man said something like they don't get along very well. I'll try to confirm if they do produce a egg or not later on .--[[User:Chickensdoorknob|ℂℏɨ₡ƙ℮ᵰᵴ∂ⱺ☮яϰŊøɓ]] ([[User talk:Chickensdoorknob|talk]]) 03:25, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
:::They will still produce an Egg even if he says they don't get along, it just takes longer. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:52, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

== Pokedex says Warm Water but Cliones like it cold trivia notable? ==

Is it notable that Cliones (which seem to be what Phione is based on) live in cooler waters/climates (from what I have read so far) but all of Phione's Pokédex entries mention warm water? Also, just throwing this out there, but Manaphy's Diamond Pokédex mentions its born on a cold seafloor.

Just testing the waters here, before I add any trivia; no pun intended. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 17:04, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
:Phione is only based on cliones, it is not actually one. So there are going to be inconsistencies between the Pokémon and the actual creature. It's not notable to put in the trivia section. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 21:59, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

== The status dispute? ==

If Pokémon can be divided into 2 groups:
:1/ Legendary/Mythical Pokémon, with:
::1a/ Legendary Pokémon.
::1b/ Mythical Pokémon.
:2/ Other (non-Legendary, non-Mythical) Pokémon.
What exactly the dispute is about? Is it about people don't know which group Phione should fit:
:A/ Between group 1a and 1b?
:B/ Between group 1 and 2?
::If B is the correct answer, then which is true:
:::B0/ Amongst 1a, 1a, and 2?
:::B1/ Between 1a and 2?
:::B2/ Between 1b and 2?
Sorry, my English is bad, so I don't understand exactly the wording of the article. Can you please explain it to me? Thank you in advance! --[[User:Yen01|Yen01]] ([[User talk:Yen01|talk]]) 14:39, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
:It's between 1 and 2; if it's 1, it would clearly be 1b, so we can say the dispute is between 1b and 2. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 11:50, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
::Oh! Because it says "Phione's [[Phione_(Pokémon)#Legendary status|status]] as a [[Legendary Pokémon|Legendary]] or [[Legendary Pokémon|Mythical Pokémon]] is often disputed, with contradiction occurring even between official sources" at the first part of the article, so I thought it is between 1a and 1b. Anyway, thank you very much! --[[User:Yen01|Yen01]] ([[User talk:Yen01|talk]]) 16:14, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
:::You're welcome :) I agree it was not so clear, now it only says "Mythical Pokémon" since it's clear it would be Mythical if it's "legendary". [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 17:02, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Phione (Pokémon)

2015-07-03T17:01:32Z

Shepeedy: /* Legendary status */

{{PokémonPrevNext |type=water | prevnum=488 | nextnum=490 | prev=Cresselia |next=Manaphy}}
{{Pokémon Infobox |
name=Phione |
jname=フィオネ |
jtranslit=Fione |
tmname=Phione |
ndex=489 |
obrow=297 |
typebox=1 |
type1=Water |
species=Sea Drifter |
height-ftin=1'04" |
height-m=0.4 |
weight-lbs=6.8 |
weight-kg=3.1 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Hydration |
egggroupn=2 |
egggroup1=Water 1 |
egggroup2=Fairy |
eggcycles=41 |
evtotal=1 |
evhp=1 |
expyield=216 |
oldexp=165 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
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color=Blue |
catchrate=30 |
body= 04|
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generation=4 |
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}}
'''Phione''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese:]] '''フィオネ''' ''Phione'') is a {{type|Water}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}.

While it is not known to [[Evolution|evolve]] into or from any other Pokémon, it can only be obtained by breeding {{p|Manaphy}} or another Phione with {{p|Ditto}}.

It is a member of the {{DL|Legendary Pokémon|sea guardians}} with Manaphy.

Phione's [[#Legendary status|status]] as a [[Legendary Pokémon|Legendary or Mythical Pokémon]] is often disputed, with contradiction occurring even between official sources.

==Biology==
Phione is a blue Pokémon with a round head and a tiny body. Phione's head is crowned by a flotation sac with a long, ribbon-like antenna. Its mouth is small, and its eyes are large with blue sclera and gray irises. Above its eyes are two blue, circular markings connected to the eyes by a thin black line. Its long, flipper-like arms have rounded tips. Phione has a red, oval gem on its chest and a single rudimentary foot spike.

Phione inflates the sac on its head to drift in the water and search for food. When the water grows warm, it will drift in packs with other members of its species. No matter how far it has drifted, it will always return to the place where it was born.

==In the anime==
[[File:Phione Supersonic.png|thumb|250px|left|Phione in the anime]]
===Major appearances===
Multiple Phione made their debut appearance in the anime in ''[[DP113|Hold the Phione!]]'' where one was attracted to [[Dawn's Buneary]].
{{-}}

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}
{{Animedexbody|DP113|Phione|Dawn's Pokédex|Phione, the Sea Drifter Pokémon. Phione lives in warm oceans. It inflates the flotation sac on its head allowing it to float on the waves and look for {{pkmn|food}}.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond & Pearl''|Sinnoh}}

==In the manga==
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
[[File:Phione Adventures.png|thumb|right|200px|Phione in Pokémon Adventures]]
Phione made its debut in ''[[PS441|Alternate Dimension Showdown XI]]'', where it was revealed to have hatched from an Egg created by {{p|Manaphy}}.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Phione (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
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{{Dex/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Dex/Gen|gen=IV}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Diamond|v2=Pearl|entry=A Pokémon that lives in warm seas. It inflates the flotation sac on its head to drift and search for food.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Platinum|entry=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=HeartGold|v2=SoulSilver|entry=When the water warms, they inflate the flotation sac on their heads and drift languidly on the sea in packs.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen|gen=V}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black|v2=White|t=FFF|entry=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black 2|v2=White 2|t=FFF|entry=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen|gen=VI}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=X|t=FFF|entry=When the water warms, they inflate the flotation sac on their heads and drift languidly on the sea in packs.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Y|entry=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Omega Ruby|t=fff|entry=When the water warms, they inflate the flotation sac on their heads and drift languidly on the sea in packs.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Alpha Sapphire|t=FFF|entry=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Footer}}

===Game locations===
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{{Availability/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=IV}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Diamond|v2=Pearl|area=[[My Pokémon Ranch]] {{pkmn|breeding|Breed}} {{p|Manaphy}}}}
{{Availability/Entry1/None|v=Platinum|area=[[My Pokémon Ranch]] (requires Platinum update, Japan only) {{pkmn|breeding|Breed}} {{p|Manaphy}}}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=HeartGold|v2=SoulSilver|area={{pkmn|breeding|Breed}} {{p|Manaphy}}}}
|}
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{{Availability/Gen|gen=V}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Black|v2=White|area=[[Poké Transfer]]}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Black 2|v2=White 2|area=[[Poké Transfer]]}}
|}
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{{Availability/Gen|gen=VI}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=X|v2=Y|area=[[Poké Transporter]]}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Omega Ruby|v2=Alpha Sapphire|area=[[Poké Transporter]]}}
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{{Availability/Footer}}

====In side games====
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===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=water |
HP= 80 |
Attack= 80 |
Defense=80 |
SpAtk= 80 |
SpDef= 80 |
Speed= 80 }}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon|
|type=Water
|Speed=4
|SpeedMax=5
|Power=1
|PowerMax=2
|Technique=3
|TechniqueMax=5
|Stamina=1
|StaminaMax=3
|Jump=2
|JumpMax=3
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{TypeEffectiveness|
type1=water|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |
Fairy= 100}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/level6|Start|Bubble|Water|Special|40|100|30||'''|Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|Start|Water Sport|Water|Status|—|—|15}|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|9|Charm|Fairy|Status|—|100|20|||Cute|2|1}}
{{learnlist/level6|16|Supersonic|Normal|Status|—|55|20|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|24|Bubble Beam|Water|Special|65|100|20||'''|Beautiful|2|3}}
{{learnlist/level6|31|Acid Armor|Poison|Status|—|—|20|||Tough|1|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|39|Whirlpool|Water|Special|35|85|15||'''|Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|46|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20||'''|Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|54|Aqua Ring|Water|Status|—|—|20|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|61|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10||'''|Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|69|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/levelf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM07|Hail|Ice|Status|—|—|10|||Beautiful|2|1}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|60|100|15|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM13|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|90|100|10|||Beautiful|1|4}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM14|Blizzard|Ice|Special|110|70|5|||Beautiful|1|3}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25|||Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|||Cute|2|3}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|||Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|||Cool|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15|||Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM55|Scald|Water|Special|80|100|15||'''|Tough|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM56|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Clever|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM86|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20|||Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM88|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM89|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20|||Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM94|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|{{sup/6|ORAS}}||Clever|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM99|Dazzling Gleam|Fairy|Special|80|100|10|||Beautiful|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM100|Confide|Normal|Status|—|—|20|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|HM03|Surf|Water|Special|90|100|15||'''|Beautiful|2|2}}
{{learnlist/tm6|HM05|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15||'''|Tough|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|HM07|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10|{{sup/6|ORAS}}|'''|Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tmf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/breed6null}}
{{learnlist/breedf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Bounce|Flying|Physical|85|85|5|||no|yes|Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Covet|Normal|Physical|60|100|25|||no|yes|Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Heal Bell|Normal|Status|—|—|5|||no|yes|Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20|||no|yes|Clever|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|||no|yes|Beautiful|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Knock Off|Dark|Physical|65|100|25|||no|yes|Clever|2|3}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Last Resort|Normal|Physical|140|100|5|||no|yes|Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Signal Beam|Bug|Special|75|100|15|||no|yes|Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Snore|Normal|Special|50|100|15|||no|yes|Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Uproar|Normal|Special|90|100|10|||no|yes|Cute|2|1}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20||'''|no|yes|Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tutorf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=water |
ndex=489 |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=100 |
iq=B |
Ranger3=yes |
group3=Water |
assist3=Water |
field3=Cut |
field3power=2 |
browser3=It attacks by spitting bubbles that make Pokémon Slowed. |
rumble=yes|
rumbleattack=3|
rumbledefense=3|
rumblespeed=3|
rumble2=yes|
rumble2attack=3|
rumble2defense=3|
rumble2speed=3|
}}

===Evolution===
{{Evobox
|family=Breedonly
|sprite1=489Phione
|name1=Phione
|type1-1=Water
|evotype1=None
|sprite2=490Manaphy
|name2=Manaphy
|type1-2=Water
}}

===Sprites===
{{Spritebox/Header|type=Water}}
{{Spritebox/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Spritebox/4|ndex=489}}
{{Spritebox/5|ndex=489}}
{{Spritebox/6|ndex=489}}
{{Spritebox/Footer|489|Phione}}

==Trivia==
* Phione is the only Pokémon that is obtainable by breeding a [[Mythical Pokémon]].
* Breeding either {{p|Manaphy}} or Phione can produce a Phione Egg, but Phione is unable to evolve into Manaphy nor produce Eggs that can hatch into Manaphy.
** Consequently, Phione and Manaphy are the only {{tt|Mythical Pokémon|although Phione's Mythical status is disputed}} that can be bred.
* Phione, {{p|Nidoran♂}}, {{p|Nidoran♀}}, {{p|Illumise}} and {{p|Volbeat}} are the only Pokémon that can be obtained by breeding a Pokémon they cannot evolve into.
* Phione shares the exact same base stats with {{p|Glalie}}.
* Phione is not found in any regional Pokédex.
* If it were counted as a [[Mythical Pokémon]], Phione would have the lowest [[base stats|base stat total]] out of all Legendary or Mythical Pokémon.

===Legendary status===
Phione's status as a [[Mythical Pokémon]] is disputed, with several pieces of evidence and even official statements often contradicting each other.

====Evidence for====
* In [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]: [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|Explorers of Time, Darkness]] and [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|Sky]], Phione has a 100% recruit rate, is never battled, and the player is not allowed to recruit more than one to their team, all of which are traits otherwise only exhibited by Legendary and Mythical Pokémon.
* Phione is banned from the {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}}, the [[Battle Subway]], the [[Pokémon World Tournament]], and the [[Battle Maison]], a rule which typically applies only to Mythical Pokémon and major Legendary Pokémon. The only confirmed non-Legendary Pokémon to have been event-only at one point, {{p|Zorua}} and {{p|Zoroark}}, were allowed in the Battle Subway, indicating Phione's battle facility ban may be due to its status.
* Phione [[List of Pokémon that do not appear in any regional Pokédex|is not found in any regional Pokédex]], a trait that is otherwise exclusive to [[Generation IV]] Legendary and Mythical Pokémon.
* In [[Pokémon Rumble Blast]], Phione can only be unlocked once a certain number of customers have shopped at the Toy Shop, a trait otherwise exclusive to Legendary and Mythical Pokémon.
* Phione was featured in Pokémon.com's 2012 [http://www.pokemon.com/powerbracket/us/ Pokémon Power Bracket], a single-elimination tournament where all other Pokémon in the bracket were Legendary and Mythical Pokémon.
* Phione is a usable Pokémon in the recently announced [[Rotation Battle]] tournament ''Circle of Legends'' where only Legendary and Mythical Pokémon are allowed.

====Evidence against====
* Phione can breed to produce another Phione; this is impossible with any other Legendary and Mythical Pokémon. However, Manaphy can also breed to produce Phione, and Manaphy is a confirmed Mythical Pokémon.
* [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver: Prima's Official Strategy Guide]] states that Phione is not Legendary.
* In [[Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs]], all Legendary Pokémon are referred to as Legendary, and all Mythical Pokémon are referred to as "rare," but Phione is neither. It is also found normally in the wild.

====Other====
* [[Pokémon.com]]'s mailbag was once asked if Phione was Legendary. The official answer was initially no, but was quickly changed to yes; the whole mailbag section has since been taken down with the restructure of Pokémon.com.
* Originally, Phione was not needed in order to complete the [[National Pokédex]], as with other Mythical Pokémon. However, beginning with [[Pokémon X and Y]], it is needed to qualify for the [[diploma]].

===Origin===
{{bulbanews|On the Origin of Species: Manaphy and Phione}}
Phione is probably based on {{wp|sea angel}}s, specifically {{wp|clione}}. Clione are remarkably popular in Japanese documentaries, especially in {{wp|Hokkaido}}, on which Sinnoh is based (this may also explain their appearance in [[Chocovine Town]]).

====Name origin====
Phione may be a combination of the final syllable of ''{{p|Manaphy}}'' and ''{{wp|clione}}'' (sea angels). Like clione, Phione is pronounced in three syllables.

==References==
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==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=water|type2=water
|ja=フィオネ ''Phione''|jameaning=From a combination of final syllable of ''{{p|Manaphy}}'' and ''clione'' (sea angels)
|de=Phione|demeaning=Same as Japanese name
|fr=Phione|frmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|es=Phione|esmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|it=Phione|itmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|ko=피오네 ''Pione''|komeaning=Transliteration of Japanese name
|zh_cmn=霏歐納 ''Fēi Ōu Nà''|zh_cmnmeaning=Transliteration of Japanese name
}}
 

==External links==

{{Legendary Pokémon}} 
{{PokémonPrevNext |type=water | prevnum=488 | nextnum=490 | prev=Cresselia |next=Manaphy}}
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{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Promotion-only Pokémon]]
[[Category:Pokémon in no regional Pokédex]]

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Talk:Phione (Pokémon)

2015-06-28T11:50:21Z

Shepeedy: /* The status dispute? */

==Phione- Legendary or not?==
Can phione really be considered a legendary? It is by no means limited to one a game cartridge as legendary Pokemon are, given that it can breed with Ditto as well as any Magnemite, Rotom, or Baltoy. It's base stats are the same as Glalie's. Which is NOT legendary. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in order to be a legendary, doesn't a Pokemon have to be only one per game without trading, and have at least SOMEWHAT good stats? {{unsigned|Missingno. Master}}
:In my opinion, it's okay the way this article puts it. It doesn't mention Phione being a legendary, yet it's in the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Sinnoh_Legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon legendary category] because it's related to Manaphy (and its Pokédex number is among legendaries). Kind of like an honorable mention in lists, but still not worth of mentioning a legendary status when talking about Phione itself. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:43, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
::Hmm... It's because of the criterion of mine I mentioned in the last paragraph that I didn't like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Phione_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&diff=142880&oldid=142060 this update]. I wonder if somebody agrees with me. Was it really necessary to mention that "it's still considered a legendary"? --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 00:30, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
:My opinion is that Phione is classed as a legendary Pokémon because of it's relation to Manaphy as Johans has said. Also, legendary Pokémon do not evolve. Phione does not evolve into Manaphy either therefore, it must have some legendary traits. [[User:Tesh|Tesh]]
:You know, I'd have to say Phione is best classified as legendary. It's a derivative of a legendary - more closely tied to a true legendary Pokémon than Mewtwo is to Mew. It's a black sheep of the lot, but still pretty legendary, I think. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 02:18, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
::What's the role of the Phione species in Mystery Dungeon 2? I still vote for never mentioning explicitly "Phione is a legendary" until the whole franchise hints it well enough. This means official text saying it's a legendary, side games with extraordinary plots related to Phione, whether or not it will protagonize a hosou or a story arc, whether or not it will be a bonus Poké Ball in Super Smash Bros. Brawl... IDK... Stuff like that. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 22:44, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Before continuing with the edit war on the Trivia section, I must say I agree with Missingno. Master on removing that line from the Trivia section which says "Without using cheats or trading, Phione is the only legendary Pokémon that a player can have more that one of". The reason to put it back (as seen [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Phione_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&diff=next&oldid=255470 here]) is based just on the template. Such unability to say whether Phione is legendary or not only makes that line worthy of being removed IMO. Something can be an exception, but you can't tell if this one is. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 17:35, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:It's because I suck at reasons. XD; [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 17:37, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

If Pokemon.com says Phione is legendary, Phione is legendary! Phione is most likely considered legendary because it is '''of legend''' in the same way Mew and Arceus have legends surrounding them. I don't actually recall Nintendo or the Pokemon franchise explicitly state what the benchmark is for a legendary. The classifications for a legendary, (such as only one per game, high stats and inability to breed), were most likely assumed after the second Generation or so and were constatly reinforced with more legendaries fitting the criteria.
Maybe the classification has just been broken.

Phione is definately legendary but it's caused so much debate because it doesn't fit into the assumed criteria. [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 13:00, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Phione is a conundrum. I really don't think of it as legendary, as it is "legendary" the same way Rotom is. Rotom is rare and has the legendary music play, but reproduces more of its own kind with Ditto; Phione's breeding is exactly like Rotom's. It traces its lineage from legends but doesn't have the stats to match up. Mewtwo is considered legendary due to its "one-of-a-kind" status and immense power. I say Phione is more of an "Almost, but not quite Legendary" pokemon, as it basically lacks that one special (probably yellow) element or essence that Manaphy has that makes it legendary. So, I think it's not like Phione is a demotion to borderline-legendary status, I think it's more like Manaphies being "Chosen Phiones" who are more powerful and pure (and legendary) as a result. This occasional legendary status isn't passed down from this special "Phione", and thus its children are normal Phiones. I don't think this debate would be so hectic if breeding wasn't the only way to obtain Phione. I say Phione belongs in the same category as Rotom as far as legendary status is concerned (Which is no) That's actually not a bad theory, that Manaphy are stronger Phione rather than Phione being weaker Manaphy. [[User:Kohdok|Kohdok]] 08:53, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

:Phione isn't a legendary. Multiple Phione can be bred from Manaphy. Multiple Phione can be bred from Phione. Also, its base stats aren't very high. I don't know why its banned from the Battle Tower, but likely because they are too delicate for competitive battling. [[User:Dusknoir477|Dusknoir477]] 09:13, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

"Phione is a legendary because it can be obtained by breeding a [[Manaphy]], and Manaphy is a legendary. Yes, it is a baby pokemon, but it's cool that a [[baby pokemon]] is a legendary. The only reason it's band from the [[Battle Frontier]] is because it IS A LEGENDARY!!!!! (duh) --[[User:Platinum giratina13|Platinum giratina13]] 21:44, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

As per my above post, has anyone actually read or heard Nintendo state what actually MAKES a Legendary a Legendary? With the arrival of the Phione/Manaphy legendary debate, the assumed criteria of not being able to breed, one-of-a-kind-ness, and high stats would technically be outdated as Phione and Manaphy are confirmed legenderies.
Accoriding to the "new" rules, the only criteria for a legendary to be legendary is for Nintendo to say it's legendary! END OF STORY! [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 20:05, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Phione is not legendary. However, evolution cannot be the only criteria because when togepi was introduced it was considered to be legendary but it now is part of a three-tier evolutionary line. {{unsigned|Mtn otter}}

== Baby Pokemon? ==
Is it really ok to designate it as a Baby? It really doesn't fit any of the criteria of a Baby Pokemon. I mean it can breed, and to my understanding, Phione isn't a pre-evolution of Manaphy (As exemplified by the fact that it can't ever evolve into it. >_>) so much as a Manaphy that was bred in colder waters. --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 04:18, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

It's not a baby Pokémon. Baby Pokémon evolve and can't breed. Phione breeds and can't evolve. --
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 14:06, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

== This... Egg move... ==

Okay, weeks ago I taught my Manaphy the move {{m|Waterfall}}, and I recently got a Ditto. Today, when my first Phione hatched from its Egg, guess what? It knew Waterfall!! But why in the world no Pokémon site mentions it? Not even [http://www.legendarypokemon.net Legendary Pokémon], the first people to publicly hack the game, talk of this. Maybe now that Manaphy was given away in an easier way, more people can help me confirming this (maybe it's an in-game bug or something? Or some game mechanics that have been overlooked?).

<blockquote>
===By [[breeding]]===

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|- style="background: #{{water color}};"
![[Generation IV]]
|-
| '''{{M|Waterfall}}'''
|}
</blockquote>

Please do discuss. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 02:18, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

It's an HM. That's why. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ 02:20, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:Oh... Does it always happen with babies and HM moves then? ^_^' And why isn't it valid to place it in the learnset lists? Is it because it's "obvious"? --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 03:26, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, and yes. It's listed under... breeding... i think. [[User:Inker|Inker]] 21:58, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
:Always happens with compatible HMs and TMs. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:06, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
:They grow up so fast. {{unsigned|Mtn otter}}

== Pssssst ==

Well well well, I just checked Pokemon.com and they just said Phione is indeed, not legendary. Aww shoot, I totally thought it was. Go to the mailbag. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 04:09, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:does that mean i can use it in the PBR little cup? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:21, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
::No because all the Pokémon you use have to be a pre-evolution of another Pokémon. And since Phione doesn't evolve well... --'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]''' '''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]''' 04:26, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:::oh well. its not like i have PBR anyway. (oh the irony!!) '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:27, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, I absolutely HATE to say I told you so.... But what the heck! I told you so! =D --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 11:40, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:Ah, contradiction. [http://www.pokemon.com/#mailbag_02042008 This] is also from Pokemon.com's mailbag, saying that Phione ''is'' legendary. // [[User talk:Szayel Aporro|'''''SzayelAporroGranz''''']] 19:22, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
WHAT?! This is impossible! Why would they change their answer??? HOW can something with Glalie's base stats be legendary?! --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 20:02, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:Yessss! I totally thought Phione was legendary, I mean, it IS related to one anyway. Anyway, no more fricking revert/edit wars now. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 20:14, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Why are you so happy? Phione breaks all the laws of legendaries- it can breed, it has bad stats, you can have more than one of them in PMD2... This upsets me, because all my carefully reasoned arguements, which by all rights should've been right, have been proven wrong! Plus, this means that if I use Phione in competitive battle, I'll be breaking my own rule of no legendaries. D< --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 20:18, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe because I actually THOUGHT Phione was a legendary? There's a word that you might want to hear about-- Exceptions. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 20:20, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
But how can Phione be an exception to EVERY SINGLE RULE THAT DEFINES A LEGENDARY, AND STILL BE A LEGENDARY?! '''IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.''' --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 20:22, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
::Yea, it says here http://www.pokemon.com/#mailbag_02042008 that it is legendary....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:47, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Lol yeah, we reverted the 'non-legendary' things a while ago. *points up to Szayel's post* [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:49, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Let's not forget that there was never a specific "rule" that said legendaries couldn't do what Phione does. After all, Latios and Latias didn't break the legendary genderless rule, they were merely the first legendaries with genders. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 08:58, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Plus, Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres were sort of confirmed to lay eggs in [[Pokemon Snap]], though I'm not sure if that counts or not.

~~Weedle_McHairybug~~

I recall an episode, no, three episodes of ''Pokémon: Master Quest'' where Ash encountered a Lugia and a baby Lugia. Does that mean Legendary Pokémon can have babies, in this case Manaphy getting Phione? [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 18:51, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:Some Legendaries have been shown to breed outside of the main series, like the three Birds in ''Snap''. But Phione is not a baby Manaphy because it can never become a Manaphy. Perhaps if one were to breed a Manaphy in Fiore then one would get another Manaphy egg. Of course, Manaphy eggs can't appearantly hatch in Fiore. This is all speculation, of course. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

But Phione can get another Phione as a baby.[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 02:36, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, but you can also breed a Magnemite to get another Magnemite. That doesn't classify it as a baby Pokémon. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 13:44, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, the classification of "Baby Pokémon" is that they're too young to breed. I forgot that until now.[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 14:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Just a thought: I still don't feel naming Phione a legendary Pokémon for a reason like that (the mailbox from Pokémon.com) is enough. What about Japanese denominations (densetsu, maboroshi, shinwa)? Which one is Phione? Bulbapedia is an output from us, but it's an input to many people. Saying Phione is a legendary because of that may be unhelpful if players organize battles or even trades where "legendaries aren't allowed" and they want to believe in this article instead of believing in sites that base themselves on stats and stuff. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 20:33, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

An excellent point. How do we know Pokemon.com is correct? They changed their answer once before, which could indicate that they themselves don't have any idea, and are just guessing. Really, the only ones who'd know for sure are the creators themselves, the ones who actually came up with Phione. We can't count on Pokemon.com to know what the creators were thinking. So I'd say Phione's legendary status would still be uncertain. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 14:26, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

:I think that given its place in the Pokédex and how it was required to have a Legendary Pokémon to obtain should be enough proof. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:37, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, so Dratini, Dragonair, and Dragonite are legendaries, because they're squeezed in between the bird trio and Mewtwo, are they? They are according to your logic. And secondly, just because a legendary Pokemon breeds to make a different species altogether, doesn't mean that the different species is also a legendary. Now, if Phione was unable to breed and had better stats, I would think it's a legendary. But anything with base stats equal to Glalie's and the ability to breed with Ditto like crazy? I mean, isn't the whole thing behind legendaries the fact that they're supposed to be HARD TO GET? And Phione can frickin' breed! Nintendo's never let us get more than one of each legendary per game w/o trading. Alright, here is, as I percieve it, the main points in the Phione Legendary Argument;
Phione must be legendary because;
*It is bred from another legendary
*Its position in the Pokédex
*Genderless
Phione CAN'T be a legendary because;
*Its stats are mediocre at best
*It can breed, and therefore more than one per game cart can be easily obtained

And two of the points that say it's legendary I have already shot down. The Dragonite, Tyranitar, and Metagross families are squeezed between legendaries, and does that make them legendaries? No, it does not! Does Phione's position in the Pokédex classify it as a legendary? Absolutely not! And maybe it is bred from another legendary- does that actually MEAN anything about Phione's legendary status? No! Mew was said to be the ancestor of all Pokémon, does that mean that every single Pokémon in existance is legendary? I didn't think so! And the stats! The one major consistancy about legendaries (aside from the whole can't breed thing) is their good stats. And Glalie's base stats are not good. Now then, based on that argument, I'd say Phione cannot in any way in any form, shape, or existance, be a legendary, and you'd be insane to think it is. Thank you and have a nice day. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 11:45, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

:The families you mentioned are not Legendary because they are ''families''. Phione does not evolve from or into another Pokémon. Don't be so stubborn... Phione is a Legendary, and [[MissingNo.]] isn't a real Pokémon. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:41, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

::Until recently, Roselia couldn't evolve into or from anything else. And don't drag MissingNo. into this. The fact that they are families means nothing. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 18:46, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

:::The fact that they are families means everything because Legendaries do not evolve. Which is why they can be surrounded by Legendary Pokémon in the Pokédex and not be considered. And you brought them up. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:04, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

::::Well, Rotom doesn't evolve and is oddly squeezed in between a bunch of evolutions and legendaries, and is it a legendary? Definitely not. Some people even thought it WAS a legendary for that reason (and the fact that legendary battle music played when it was battled), and yet, they were WRONG! Evolutions notwithstanding, the mere fact that there CAN be non-legendaries sandwiched between legendaries in the Pokédex means that Phione's position in said Pokédex doesn't mean a thing. And just because something doesn't evolve to or from anything doesn't mean it won't. Again, I point out Roselia as a prime example here. Dang thing got a pre-evo AND an evolution in the same generation! Now, I know Pokémon.com said that Phione is legendary, but they originally said it wasn't. The mere fact that they changed their answer indicates that they are doubtful. They could be guessing. Phione breaks the two cardinal rules that define legendaries; rarity (Phione can breed with Ditto to create more Phione), and strength (base stats of Glalie-not good). Legendaries are supposed to have at least DECENT base stats, and Phione's stats? Far from it. Most importantly, and this is the point most of you are overlooking, legendaries are supposed to be ONE PER GAME, sans trading/events. And Phione can BREED. Legendaries aren't SUPPOSED to reproduce in the games like this! That's why Phione was created in the first place-so Manaphy could lay eggs that hatched into something other than itself, so people wouldn't be running around with a *bleep*load of Manaphy on one game. Now THINK about that for a while, won't you? I propose that Phione's legendary status be labeled as "unconfirmed" until we get irrefutable proof of its legendary status (or lack thereof) by those who would know. Let's wait and see how the Anime portrays it, for example. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 10:52, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Cardinal rule that defines legendaries? There are none, and there hasn't been one that didn't get thrown out the window in the last two generations besides the fact that they can't evolve.
:::::Also, don't use Roselia for an example. Just because it can't evolve doesn't mean it's a legendary, but because Phione's legendary it cannot evolve. Squares and rectangles, you see. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:05, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Exactly. And I ''highly'' doubt that Manaphy will ever gain an evo or even a prevo. Rotom, on the other hand, is more likely. Besides, who ever said that base stats defined legendary status? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:48, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nobody... It's more of an intuitive meaning. Like, most Pokémon movies and major story arcs are protagonized by legendary Pokémon. In the anime, legendary Pokémon are "powerful". And non-coincidentally, their stats are high in the Pokémon games, which is an accurate meaning for "powerful". --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
::Doesn't mean they couldn't make a crappy legendary. As of Gen I, the rules were ONE PER GAME, HIGH STATS, and NO EVOLVING. Once Gen II rolled around we got NO GENDER and NO BREEDING. Gen III took down the ONE PER GAME thing since Brandon had the damned Regi and the NO GENDER thing with Lati@s. All Gen IV did was remove NO BREEDING and HIGH STATS, since Phione sucks. Well, actually, not really sucks, just isn't incredibly cheaply high. People want less legendaries, how the hell else are they going to do anything unless they gradually reduce legendaries into little more than normal Pokémon? Sheesh, Heatran has a variable gender! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:45, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Oh, sure, they COULD create a crappy legendary, but why would they? Legendary Pokémon have always been portrayed as powerful Pokémon that cannot breed. Legendary Pokémon are put up high on pedestals by those who create them. Legendaries sell movies. It's clear that the creators of Pokémon want the public to have a high opinion of legendaries, so why wreck it with a legendary that you can get a *bleep*load of in any given game, and that has less than decent stats? I don't think they would. Now, I want any one of you to list for me all the overwhelming reasons that prove beyond conclusive doubt that Phione is a legendary. Anyone? Nobody? OK, let me think here.... Oh, I know! Phione's bred from Manaphy! My goodness! Oh, how I must have been mistaken! Oh, Phione's bred from Manaphy! Son of cheese, that MUST mean it's legendary! Anyone who agreed with my last two sentences is a complete imbecile. For the love of Arceus, people, just because a Pokémon can be hatched from an egg that has been laid by a Legendary Pokémon doesn't mean that the offspring is legendary! Pichu hatch from eggs laid by Pikachu and Raichu, so does that make Pikachu and Raichu baby Pokémon? Of course not! Now, I want you people to think- just THINK- about it for a moment. Given the evidence I have presented, not just now, but over my entire career of arguing that Phione cannot be legendary, versus the single, measly fact that it can be bred from Manaphy, not to mention an entirely unconvincing letter from Pokémon.com (in which, may I remind you all, they changed their answer, indicating that they don't really know and are more than likely guessing), can you REALLY, in sound mind and complete sanity, STILL say, with the utmost conviction, that Phione is a legendary? DIDN'T THINK SO! OH, DUH! I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 01:29, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Phione is legendary... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 02:14, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:Phione's legendary status is debatable as we have not received word from the Jap creators. But still, Phione is legendary because it can ShoopWhoop. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:37 2 Jul 2008'''''
:If Phione's not legendary, neither is Manaphy. Neither is Mewtwo. Manaphy is hatched from an egg, it matters not that you can't dump it in the daycare and get more Manaphy. The reason FOR Phione is just that: they KNEW that after getting an egg with Manaphy people would try for more, breed with Ditto, and end up whining if it were like Mew or Celebi. So they made Phione to trick people. As for Mewtwo, it was created by humans. No legend there. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:13, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
And why do you think they did that with Manaphy in the first place? So people couldn't get more easily! Phione, on the other hand, can breed. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 14:15, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

:Which makes Phione the first legendary that can successfully breed. No one ever said that all legendaries have to fit into some definable category forever more. And the fact that it's stats are lacking is because it can breed. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:50, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

::YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT! The mere fact that Manaphy can breed, but not to create more Manaphy, indicates that legendaries aren't SUPPOSED to breed! As I've previously stated, if the fact that Manaphy can breed to make Phione is the only argument for Phione's legendary status, then it's a real feeble-ass argument, as, if Phione were indeed a legendary, then it would be the only legendary with breeding capabilities and mediocre stats, and I don't think that that's all that likely! Think about it! If they were going to make it so legendaries were breedable, there would be no Phione, and Manaphy could just lay more Manaphy eggs! OH DUH! I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 16:52, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

It was never set in stone that legendaries cannot breed and have to be one of a kind. If Nintendo and Game Freak want to make a sub-par legendary, then SO BE IT!!! Obviously the person who stated that Phione was not legendary was mistaken, and they corrected that mistake. Things change. Nothing has to be the exact same every generation. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:26, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

:OK, what you're saying WOULD make a lot of sense, if it didn't indicate that you never actually comprehended my arguments. THINK! If Nintendo and Game Freak wanted to create a breedable legendary at all, Phione wouldn't even exist, as the only reason they made it was that Manaphy could lay eggs without them hatching into more Manaphy! They would've just made Manaphy able to produce more Manaphy eggs! But they didn't! They made Manaphy able to breed a completely different species, and THAT species can breed, and it can't evolve into Manaphy. You know what this means? LEGENDARIES ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BREED, AND PHIONE IS LIVING PROOF! Now I agree, they COULD make a sub-par legendary. My point, however, is, WHY WOULD THEY? Look at the movies- legendary Pokémon are constantly spoken of with reverence, portrayed as grand, majestic, powerful, and rare, depictions that hold true in the games. Now, do you REALLY think that they'd besmirch the good name of legendaries, which they have worked so hard to glorify, by creating a legendary as common as Bidoof and as weak as Glalie? DIDN'T THINK SO! And before anyone replies to this, why don't you actually READ what I type, and let it sink in, let the gears of reason start turning in your head, and don't just come up with another lame excuse of an excuse as to why Phione is STILL legendary, despite all my well-reasoned arguments proving otherwise. Thank you. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 11:27, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

::<<sigh>>... The games and the movies are made by different people and follow completely different canon. According to the anime, Unown are legendary and powerful. Plus, who's to say that you can't produce more Manaphy eggs in a future generation? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:15, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

:::Missingno. Master, I don't really think that the Games even held Legendaries as being high, majestic, and one of a kind. If they had, Brandon would NOT have had the three Golems OR the three Birds (the former of which can ALSO be caught in the wild), Palmer would NOT have owned Heatran, Cresselia, and Regigigas. Also, I won't get too spoilerific, but in Movie 11, let's just say that Shaymin isn't the only one of it's kind (Then again, considering the same event that Shaymin debuted in had a similar white rock located in Kanto (not to mention it being obtained in Almia), it was also hinted that it wasn't really one of a kind there either.). And anyways, even IF you can't breed Manaphies from Manaphies in Sinnoh, the mere fact that it HAD an egg proves that it can breed from another Manaphy, which would hint that, by your logic, it's not even a legendary. Also, the three dogs, Rayquaza, Groudon, Kyogre, Celebi, Mew, and Deoxys wouldn't have multiple members in Fiore (If Manaphy is counted as an official Main Legendary despite originating from a Spinoff game, then I'm going to count Fiore as a main game region as well.). the three dogs, Lugia, and Ho-Oh would ALSO have not appeared in Kanto/Sevii Islands if that was the case. heck, the three dogs, Ho-Oh, Lugia, the three birds, and Celebi would NOT have existed in Orre at all if they were one of a kind. The three Regis would ALSO have not existed in Sinnoh at ALL if legendaries were truly one of a kind. So please stop acting as though they shouldn't have multitudes. In fact, the only legendary pokemon that HASN'T had multitudes period is Mewtwo itself. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 11:06, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
::::But, the fact still remains that in the games, legendaries are supposed to be one per cartridge. Manaphy itself is proof of this- if legendaries weren't intended to be one per cartridge, Phione wouldn't exist, as Manaphy would be able to produce more Manaphy. That's why Phione exist- to prevent Manaphy from breeding more Manaphy. And Phione are certainly NOT one per cartridge, as anyone with a Phione, a Ditto, and access to a daycare center can easily get as many Phione as they wish. And then there is the matter of its stats. Legendary Pokemon are powerful. They have good stats. They can learn Hyper Beam and other powerful moves. Phione has base 80 stats all around and can't learn Hyper Beam or any variant. It has no exclusive move (true, not all legendaries do). It doesn't even learn all the moves Manaphy can. And it doesn't learn ANY move Manaphy can't. True, this does not conclusively prove Phione to not be legendary, but it certainly lends a hefty amount of support towards that side of the issue. Certainly more than "It's bred from Manaphy, it must be legendary". - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 02:34, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::I can come up with better. It says so right there on Pokemon.com. Yes, I get that they corrected the answer. You're just reading into WHY it was. It's a wild guess, but I'm betting that the IT person who updates the website isn't intricately connected with anyone who makes or translates the games. He tried to answer it on his own, did it incorrectly, and was corrected. Either way, if you have a better source than POKEMON.COM that that says it isn't a legendary, I'd like to see it.
::::::As for all this talk about "Legends are this, legends are that", none of it is true. The only requirement to be a "Legendary Pokemon" is to be deemed one by Game Freak. What moves they learn are largely irrelevant, because many Pokemon have vast move pools. Gen 3 and 4 often have Legends as Plot Devices, but it doesn't hold true to Gen I, II, and those that are exclusive to events.[[User:Randomspot555|Randomspot555]] 22:06, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't know why the so-called MissigNo. Master is so upset that Phione is a legendary! I could say more reasons why it is I just don't want to, and some of them are already said, becasue it's so obvious! It is!!! DEAL WITH IT! Now, another reason nobody has said or at least so far I've read, it makes no sense to make a legendary Pokémon to breed ''into''(I don't know which preposition goes here) a not-legendary one. That's just not logic!, I mean, we all know Manaphy IS legendary right, then why would it be able to bread (into another species, anyway) into a not legendary?? MAKES NO SENSE, it is legendary despite its "bad stats", ability to breed and it doesn't evolve, even into the species it can come from, etc..

Would other legendary breed (if more could) into a not-legendary one? for example a Moltres if it could breed together with Ditto... you think the baby would be a, say, Growlithe? Of course not, It would be, I don't know, a new species, or another Moltres and it would still be a legendary.

Pokémon is in constant change, they created a new kind of legendary, maybe the only one of its kind -that can breed-, or at least so far, who says that maybe in next generations more and new legendaies will not be able to breed?? Maybe they would! People really need to start THINKING about the logic in here, and the BIG, really big POSIBILITY that it could be a legendary!--[[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 18:38, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

:Reviving this argument, I will just have what I hope to be my final say in this. Thus far, here are the facts:

Phione must be legendary because;
*It is bred from another legendary
*Its position in the Pokédex
*Genderless
*Pokémon.com said so

Phione CAN'T be a legendary because;
*Its stats are mediocre at best
**Legendaries have stats that are decent at the least.
*Inordinate amounts of them appeared in the anime, more than any legendary.
**It's rare to see more than one of any given species of legendary in the anime, let alone in the same episode. No less than six appeared in [[DP113]].
*It can breed, and therefore more than one per game cart can be easily obtained
**It's a well-known fact that legendaries are supposed to be one per game cart, outside of trading.

The points in the "Phione must be legendary" column are <strike>full of crap</strike> inconclusive because;
*Manaphy can breed to create Phione for the sole purpose of preventing the breeding of more Manaphy, which right there proves that legendaries are not supposed to breed. See, if legendaries were supposed to breed, Phione wouldn't even exist, as Manaphy would be able to create more of itself.
*Dratini, Larvitar, and their evolutions are sandwiched in between groups of legendaries in most Pokédex entries, and they're not legendaries.
*Voltorb, Magneton, Baltoy, Metang, and Rotom are all genderless. None of them are legendary.
*Pokémon.com also said that Shaymin's Sky Forme had Natural Cure, that Swallow was a new attack for Generation IV, and that there was a Staraptor in Jumping Rocket Ship. Also, the fact that they changed their answer denotes unsureness.

Now, let me get this through to you. I will say this once, and only once. I will only back down from my argument if, and only if, Satoshi Tajiri ''himself'' personally declares that Phione is a legendary. That, in my opinion, is the only source that will provide a definitive answer. I will accept nothing less. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] says: The [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] is real![[User talk: Missingno. Master|(talk page)]] 22:24, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:Pssssst. '''Legendary''' (''ˈlɛdʒənˌdɛri'') adj. '''1.''' of, pertaining to, or of the nature of a legend. // Phione is allegedly a bringer of good luck to those who see it; tourists flock to Chocovine just to get a glimpse of Phione. That hints at Phione being a rare Pokémon with uncommon abilities, both of which can be associated with a Pokémon of legend. [http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq41/PDLpics/23a814bea263b08a6dee29561e6906dae1d.gif] '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 22:40, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
::I am not getting mad at video games. I am getting mad at people mistaking Phione for a legendary. As for the anime, that actually proves nothing. In the anime, Phione are rare. In the anime, Metagross are damaged by Poison Tail. In the anime, wild Squirtle form troublemaking gangs. In the anime, Dustox can learn Stun Spore. In the anime, Geodude and Golem can be floored by Thunderbolt. In the anime, ahem, PIKACHU! AIM FOR THE HORN! In the games, Phione are easy to get. In the games, Metagross are unaffected by Poison Tail. In the games, there are no wild Squirtle. In the games, Dustox can't learn Stun Spore. In the games, no ground type can be harmed by Thunderbolt. My point being, the anime was made after the games, and do not necessarily need to conform to them. And they don't, in many cases. I admit, it was therefore wrong of me to drag the anime into this argument. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] says: The [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] is real![[User talk: Missingno. Master|(talk page)]] 22:50, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Just because you're too stubborn to admit that you're incorrect doesn't mean you're correct. <3 '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 23:06, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to drag up an old debate again, but I have another point that hasn't been mentioned yet and which crushes MM's arguments: If they didn't want Manaphies to breed Manaphies, then they wouldn't be breedable! --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 07:09, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

== Phione's advantages ==

* Does Phiones have any advantages that Manaphy doesn't have? If not, then what's the point? --[[User:Kid Sonic|Kid Sonic]] 00:13, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
:Irrelevant. Someone remove this. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 00:32, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
::That was rude. Now, in response to the question, Phione does not have any sort of advantage over Manaphy. All its stats are lower, and it doesn't learn any moves Manaphy can't. So no, there is no point other than keeping people from breeding multiple Manaphy. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:07, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
::Except they're not Manaphy. --[[User:Kid Sonic|Kid Sonic]] 05:03, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Exactly. It's there to piss you off because people would be all "O LOL I HAS MANAFY FROM EGG I PUT DAYCARE IT MAKE MOAR MANAFY I PUT ON GTS AND GET MEWTOO". And then you get Phione. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:14, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Random Something Thinks I ==

Why is Phione not in the No eggs group if it's genderless.{{u|Laxafett}}19:41, 18 December 2008(UTC)
:Because it has those egg groups in the game's internal data. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 19:48, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

== Battle Tower ==
I didn't see anyone mention this, surprisingly. But doesn't the fact that it can't be used in the battle tower (or any Frontier facility I'm assuming) prove it's legendary? Every other Pokemon restricted from being used there is a Legendary Pokemon... '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 21:46, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:Probably more because it's semi-event-exclusive, methinks. Not all legendaries are banned from there. All event-exclusive species are banned from there, however. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 21:47, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
::It's true that not all legendaries are banned, but I didn't say that anyway :p I said that all Pokemon that are banned are legendary. The converse isn't true though, as you so pointed out. However, the Aura Sphere-using Riolu from Ranger is also an Event Pokemon and it isn't banned, so there's a hole in your theory. '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 22:53, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I said event-exclusive SPECIES, and for exactly that reason. Riolu can easily be obtained outside an event. Phione, not so much. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:55, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

== Once and for all ==

As has been pointed out before and confirmed on Pokemon.com, Phione is a legendary Pokemon. If anyone has a more reliable source that says otherwise, such as a direct interview with someone in the franchise, please present it. Otherwise, I can't see how the debate can continue. Pokemon.com says so, and no one else has any other sources that say otherwise. Note that I only changed the intro paragraph. The trivia section already reflected it's legend status, and the page on Legendary Pokemon say it's a legend also. [[User:Randomspot555|Randomspot555]] 04:38, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

YES! Finally! Everybody knew it was in fact legendary. [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 19:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Legendary Status has been officially revoked. ==

From the Vol. 1, Pg.27 of the official Pokemon HeartGold & SoulSilver Version guide book: "Since Phione can be obtained by hatching Eggs, it is not classified as a Legendary Pokemon."

The guide book is published by [[The Pokémon Company International]], which is the same company that runs Pokemon.com, the website that originally confirmed it's Legendary status. Obviously they've changed their minds. --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 19:10, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
:''Well, well, well''. I was right the whole time! Now, I don't like to gloat.... Who am I kidding? I ''love'' to gloat! I was right, and you all were wrong! I'm off to change the page! - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 02:51, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::I think it is legendary. Why would the ''exact same'' company ban usage of it in VGC? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:53, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::For the exact same reason they banned Rotom until HG/SS came out. Event exclusive species (formes in Rotom's case). I knew it all along, the evidence was incontrovertible. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 02:58, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::::I still don't feel comfortable about this... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:59, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Oh, well. If the Pokémon Company International, the exact same company in charge of the official Pokémon website, says Phione is not legendary, then it's not legendary. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 03:01, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::They've been wrong before. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:03, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Two things: If TPCi says it's not legendary, how ''else'' are we going to get official confirmation? It's not legendary. There. lol
:::::::The other thing is... you don't need to rub it in everyone's face that you were right. Seriously. Cut it out. >_> ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 03:05, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::...I think I remember My Pokémon Ranch calling it legendary... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:09, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::The Trivia section mentions the conflicting sources, isn't that good enough? Seriously. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 03:11, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::No. See, this is more definitive proof. See, the website, well, they could change it on a whim. But if they were to change their minds and declare Phione a legendary, they'd have to do something about these guidebooks. So if they put in the guidebooks that Phione is not a legendary, they must have been sure about it. Besides which, the conflicting online source no longer exists. If there are no further objections (that contain actual reasoning, not just moaning and whining from people who are just upset that they've been wrong the whole time), I will go ahead and unhide that bit in the intro to the article. It's been a pleasure winning this argument. In all seriousness, however, I am sorry if I came across as rude about this whole ordeal. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 14:27, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

(unindent) I don't see why we can't mention the controversy. If we're not going to cite our sources on a conflicted bit on information, we should at least bring out where it conflicts. That's what good reporting is about. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar{{#ifeq: |Night|_Night}}.png|Pokémon Dollar|link=Pokémon Dollar]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 23:55, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
:MM, the source still exists. Origin.pokemon.com. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 23:57, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
::Oh, so it does. Well, it still doesn't change the fact that a more recent source from the same company has something different. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 01:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:::People should really not forget that guidebooks aren't always correct. Some say things like Cascoon can only be obtained at night, so it could be an error [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 01:35, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::::OK... too much arguing here. First, I couldn't get origin.pokemon.com to work, much less access the mailbag... anyone care to put up a direct link to the specific mailbag that stated Phione's status? Also, I think that Phione should be considered not legendary as TPCI, the most official source in this matter other than TPC or the games themselves, has stated most recently (the HGSS guidebook) that it is not legendary. Arguments about "they could be wrong", "they couldn't be wrong", "they could sometime change their mind as they have before" are invalid, as they only serve to invalidate the other point of view whenever convenient. Its not an issue of the website or the guidebooks being more official, they are both equally official, but as the guidebook is the ''most recent'', Phione should be considered not legendary until TPCI or a more official source states otherwise. However, I believe that stating "it's not a legendary" in the lead of the article is unnecessary; we only put up when it ''is'' legendary, we do not go around and put up in every non-legendary's Pokémon article that it's not legendary.
::::That said, precisely because TPCI has contradicted itself before, and there have been numerous debates on this, I think an entire section explaining everything is in order, maybe under Trivia. I'd put it up in the article myself, but I don't wanna get into an edit war so I'll put it up here for everyone to approve/disapprove of first. Also, I think putting up dates the announcements were made might be necessary too. '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 04:24, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Keep this in mind: the guidebooks are written by idiots. They ''constantly'' screw stuff up and throw in their opinions, not Nintendo's, and their assumptions, not the game programming. It's said that Wurmple evolves depending on time, or on gender, and that was a persistent rumor during Gen III. But we ripped the games apart and verified that no, it's based on the PV. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:34, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::I want to point out here that the Media Factory guidebook (the one from which the English guidebook was translated) indeed states that Phione is not considered legendary. I can't be assed to take an actual picture, but [http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3330177/mfphione.jpg here have a blurry-as-hell webcam picture]. I assure you that it says exactly the same thing as in the English guidebook. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 04:59, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Then Manaphy isn't legendary either, I assume? And what of Unown? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Well, yes, the reasoning of "it's not legendary because it can breed" would exclude Manaphy as a legendary. Though Unown is a moot point, since the reasoning is not "every Pokémon that can't breed is a legendary"... But I digress. On the topic of the trustworthiness of the guides: yes, they have been inaccurate, but the site has contradicted itself also. My point is, they're both equally reliable (or unreliable). I mean, both are TPCI, or rather, people employed at TPCI who could make stuff up or make assumptions. So, we either take both as accurate (and the guide, as the most recent update, states how it is as of now) or neither, and therefore we CAN'T conclusively say Phione is or isn't a legendary. Now that I think of it, maybe that last one is for the best. '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 06:00, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

===Status as a legendary Pokémon===
When Phione was first discovered in the Pokémon games, there was much debate whether or not it should be considered as a [[legendary Pokémon]]. Some said it should be, citing its inability to evolve and its rarity (as it could only be bred initially from an already rare Manaphy), as well as its exclusive relationship to the indisputably legendary {{p|Manaphy}}. Others said it shouldn’t be considered legendary, mentioning its capacity to breed and be hatched from regular eggs, as well as its generally weak stats.
Even [[The Pokémon Company International]] has had conflicting announcements about Phione’s legendary status. Firstly, [[Pokemon.com]] mentioned in its mailbag that Phione was not a legendary Pokémon, but it was changed shortly thereafter, making Phione officially a legendary for a while. Recently, however, the official guidebook of {{2v|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, published also by TPCI, stated that Phione is not a legendary due to its ability to reproduce. Given that this is the latest official update on this Pokémon’s status, it is currently considered to not be a legendary Pokémon.

== Breeding ==
To keep consistency, doesn't Phione need a breeding section "By Breeding/None." I put it up bt someone deleted it >:( so do we need this section or not? It's on Rotom's and other other Pokes that can be obtained through breeding but have no egg moves. [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 01:42, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:Consistency is enjoyed. Plz to be putting it there. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:11, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry about that. I removed it because I thought I had seen other articles without a "by breeding" section. But I must have been wrong. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar{{#ifeq: |Night|_Night}}.png|Pokémon Dollar|link=Pokémon Dollar]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 22:30, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

== Legendary status ==

Thought I'd add this to the start of the article, to settle the legendary argument:

"Phione is considered by some to be a [[legendary Pokémon]]. However, due to the fact that it can breed and multiple individuals can be obtained, its legendary status remains disputed, with contradiction occuring even between official sources." [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 21:40, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

The new Pokémon Ranger game '''definitely''' confirms it as non-legendary. '''CASE CLOSED''' -'''[[User:Gengarzilla|I Liek Gengarz!]] [[User talk:Gengarzilla|Do Joo Liek Dem?]]''' 16:23, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
:It may not be referred to as legendary, but does it explicitly say Phione is ''not'' legendary? If not, then it is certainly not settled "once and for all". '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 08:17, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
::Black and White disagree it seems, as Phione is banned from the Battle Subway. The difference this time around? Zorua and Zoroark, also event Pokemon, are NOT banned, while Phione, despite being recently stated as non-legendary, is still banned. If someone can simply contact Game Freak themselves and not rely on a spin-off, THEN we can confirm it's status once and for all. Better to get the answer from it's original creator yes? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 00:40, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Zorua and Zoroark are slightly easier to get without an event, as you can merely trade for them over the GTS. If you talk to the silent boy in Hiun City, Zorua is recorded as "seen" in your Pokedex, and N uses a Zoroark, so you can search for them. Phione, on the other hand, cannot be seen in any games, and the only way to see Manaphy is to look at Backlot's book in Platinum. And even then there's no guarantee that anyone will trade you a Manaphy over the GTS. And seriously, Phione not being referred to as legendary or rare in Ranger:Guardian Signs when every legendary is? I'm pretty damn sure that can't be a coincidence. Please, let's not drag up this old argument again, as I still have my other valid points as to why Phione can't be legendary. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 00:45, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Honestly, until we get a confirmation directly from Game Freak themselves and not someone else saying it for them, Phione's status is still under debate it seems. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 00:47, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Besides it's not like Phione is breaking Metagames anytime soon unlike Zoroark with it's Illusion ability causing massive mind games..... Regardless of how it is found, Zoroark deserves a banning more than Phione in a way. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 00:49, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::Game Freak are unlikley to reply to any fan e-mails, even if sent in Japanese. But if Phione is confirmed as non-legendary, then a good bit of info for the Trivia section would be "Phione is the only non-legendary Pokemon not in any regional Pokedex." '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 00:53, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::I can be debated either way, but don't base if it's legendary or not based on Pokemon Ranger Games. Because according to Pokémon Ranger Celebi is not legendary it's "rare" :| [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 01:43, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Rare is still legendary. It's just that there are two kinds in Japanese "legendary" and "rare", which this game distinguishes between. Phione gets nothing as if it were a regular Pokémon (because it is). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:04, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Still.... I don't really like trusting spin-offs for this kind of information because sometimes they can make mistakes rather easily (Loads of places mislabel Wurmple's evolution as time based or gender based after all, with even the official site listing it incorrectly last time I checked the site years ago [Doesn't say evolution methods in the modern day site]). I think it's more of a safer opinion if we get an answer from Game Freak, even if they rarely answer, it still seems like a much better option as we can get the truth once and for all... [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 14:06, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Why is everyone making such a big deal out of this? In my opinion, Phione is a legendary Pokemon. However, I am not going to argue for or against it. All I have to say on this matter is this: 1. Since WHEN are side games the deciding factor on the status of the Pokemon.
2. The game does NOT say whether it is legendary or not.
Thus, I would never go so far as to base the status of this Pokemon on what the new ranger game says. I suggest we do not jump to conclusions and say flat out that it is not legendary. I say we just state that its status is disputed. Both sides of the argument have given ample evidence, but neither has any evidence that proves WITHOUT A DOUBT that they are right. I say we wait for an OFFICIAL statement on the matter. Till then, I'm not convinced either way (not that it matters). ([[User:Toolen|Toolen]] 03:00, 18 December 2010 (UTC))

On a side note, is their any way to contact Game Freak on this matter? ([[User:Toolen|Toolen]] 03:04, 18 December 2010 (UTC))
:Ample evidence? For: Pokémon.com mailbag entry (the whole mailbag has since been taken down). Against: Recent official HGSS game guide, Ranger GS. Game Freak would be highly unlikely to respond, even if we could contact them. The side game is not the sole proof, it's the tipping piece of evidence. Due to there no longer being any evidence to support it being legendary, and two pieces against, it is now considered not legendary. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:40, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:: Not to throw more wood onto the fire, but I noticed a user making this edit:

::"However, Director of GameFreak inc, Marc Parker, has stated that Phione is indeed a legendary after months of debating with Kacey Traver, the founder of http://www.smogon.com/"

:: What to make of this? --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 20:00, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
:::If we get a reliable source for that, I think we can change it back to being legendary. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:41, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

I've changed some of the wording in the article so it has a more neutral point of view; at this stage we can't really prove if Phione is legendary or not. If all official sources gave the same answer then of course the article could contain that information, but as the official sources contradict each other, it's best just not to say either way. Although Ranger does seem like the best source to go by, it's still not set in stone, and to say that Phione is not currently classed as legendary is still only Bulbapedia's opinion. Marc Parker's statement would be a good addition to the Trivia section if we can find a reference. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 19:55, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

== Just saying... ==
Phione is in the list of banned Pokémon from the official video game championship. The list only include legendary Pokémon, so... --[[User:SamuStar|SamuStar]] 17:19, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
:Or it is the only non-legendary Pokémon listed. Banlists are indications but not proof. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:21, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
::It's likely because Phione is technically event-only.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 15:53, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
and what about Zorua and Zoroark? They aren't banned --[[User:SamuStar|SamuStar]] 16:29, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Hey guys. I'm new. I have an idea. Phione could be semi-legendary! You know, like in Greek if a god has babies with a mortal, there's a demigod? It makes sense! [[User:Cela08|Cela08]] 16:10, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
:Pokémon aint based on greek in any major way -.- [[User:Jyles|Jyles]] ([[User talk:Jyles|talk]]) 21:37, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
::Did he say Pokemon was based on Greek? No. He said you could GIVE it a title based of a greek title. Not that it had one.[[User:Chris Broach|Chris Broach]] ([[User talk:Chris Broach|talk]]) 23:39, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

== Useless part removed ==

I removed this thing: "though it is placed directly before the [[legendary birds]] in the [[Oblivia Browser]], and cannot be obtained until the game is completed.". It doesn't mean anything: first, the Browser position is irrelevant, given the fact that we don't consider Rotom's position in the National Pokédex; secondly, it's true that it's only found after clearing the main quest, but this applies also to normal Pokémon such as Blastoise and Heracross. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 12:25, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

== Inconsistency ==

I know it was settled above that Phione's Status as a legerendary are disputed and it will be put on the hold until a real source appears, however in several pages, like the Generation V page, Battle Frontier Generation IV, and some others that say Phione is classified as a non-legendary, not mentioning its '''disputed''' status. This is becoming contradictory, since the trivia in Pokémon breeding and Manaphy pages mention Phione being legendary disputed with the *. The Trivia in those other pages should be changed also, because the trivia would be 50 percent wrong (Generation IV having the same number of legendaries with V{{tt|*|With Genenation IV having more if Phione is considered legendary}}; it, Spiky eared Pichu being non-legendaries not able in the facilities{{tt|*|with the latter full confirmed non-legendaries}}) if it is put that away and 100 percente clear with the * disputed.

I think what is important it's not note that Phione being or not legendary, but yes the fact that it can be as is a relative to one. --[[User:Igor Castro Chucre|Igor ]] ([[User talk:Igor Castro Chucre|talk]]) 14:09, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
:They should be changed to mention that its legendary status is disputed, yes. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:27, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
::And its non-legendary status is also disputed. --[[User:Igor Castro Chucre|Igor ]] ([[User talk:Igor Castro Chucre|talk]]) 14:39, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

== Black (2) and White (2) ==
Is it possible to get a Phione egg by breeding Manaphy (hatched from egg which was transferred from Platinum version) and a Ditto in Black/White and Black 2/White 2? Because I've been trying but it seems like they're not producing the egg. (as of yet) Or do I need leave them in the day care centre longer? Can someone please confirm this? --[[User:Chickensdoorknob|ℂℏɨ₡ƙ℮ᵰᵴ∂ⱺ☮яϰŊøɓ]] ([[User talk:Chickensdoorknob|talk]]) 01:45, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
:What does the Day Care man say about their relationship? As long as he doesn't say they prefer to play with other Pokémon, they will breed. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:02, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
::Ok thanks. I currently don't have my DS with me. But from memory, the day-care man said something like they don't get along very well. I'll try to confirm if they do produce a egg or not later on .--[[User:Chickensdoorknob|ℂℏɨ₡ƙ℮ᵰᵴ∂ⱺ☮яϰŊøɓ]] ([[User talk:Chickensdoorknob|talk]]) 03:25, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
:::They will still produce an Egg even if he says they don't get along, it just takes longer. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:52, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

== Pokedex says Warm Water but Cliones like it cold trivia notable? ==

Is it notable that Cliones (which seem to be what Phione is based on) live in cooler waters/climates (from what I have read so far) but all of Phione's Pokédex entries mention warm water? Also, just throwing this out there, but Manaphy's Diamond Pokédex mentions its born on a cold seafloor.

Just testing the waters here, before I add any trivia; no pun intended. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 17:04, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
:Phione is only based on cliones, it is not actually one. So there are going to be inconsistencies between the Pokémon and the actual creature. It's not notable to put in the trivia section. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 21:59, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

== The status dispute? ==

If Pokémon can be divided into 2 groups:
:1/ Legendary/Mythical Pokémon, with:
::1a/ Legendary Pokémon.
::1b/ Mythical Pokémon.
:2/ Other (non-Legendary, non-Mythical) Pokémon.
What exactly the dispute is about? Is it about people don't know which group Phione should fit:
:A/ Between group 1a and 1b?
:B/ Between group 1 and 2?
::If B is the correct answer, then which is true:
:::B0/ Amongst 1a, 1a, and 2?
:::B1/ Between 1a and 2?
:::B2/ Between 1b and 2?
Sorry, my English is bad, so I don't understand exactly the wording of the article. Can you please explain it to me? Thank you in advance! --[[User:Yen01|Yen01]] ([[User talk:Yen01|talk]]) 14:39, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
:It's between 1 and 2; if it's 1, it would clearly be 1b, so we can say the dispute is between 1b and 2. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 11:50, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Phione (Pokémon)

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{{Pokémon Infobox |
name=Phione |
jname=フィオネ |
jtranslit=Fione |
tmname=Phione |
ndex=489 |
obrow=297 |
typebox=1 |
type1=Water |
species=Sea Drifter |
height-ftin=1'04" |
height-m=0.4 |
weight-lbs=6.8 |
weight-kg=3.1 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Hydration |
egggroupn=2 |
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color=Blue |
catchrate=30 |
body= 04|
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generation=4 |
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}}
'''Phione''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese:]] '''フィオネ''' ''Phione'') is a {{type|Water}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}.

While it is not known to [[Evolution|evolve]] into or from any other Pokémon, it can only be obtained by breeding {{p|Manaphy}} or another Phione with {{p|Ditto}}.

It is a member of the {{DL|Legendary Pokémon|sea guardians}} with Manaphy.

Phione's [[#Mythical status|status]] as a [[Legendary Pokémon|Legendary]] or [[Mythical Pokémon]] is often disputed, with contradiction occurring even between official sources.

==Biology==
Phione is a blue Pokémon with a round head and a tiny body. Phione's head is crowned by a flotation sac with a long, ribbon-like antenna. Its mouth is small, and its eyes are large with blue sclera and gray irises. Above its eyes are two blue, circular markings connected to the eyes by a thin black line. Its long, flipper-like arms have rounded tips. Phione has a red, oval gem on its chest and a single rudimentary foot spike.

Phione inflates the sac on its head to drift in the water and search for food. When the water grows warm, it will drift in packs with other members of its species. No matter how far it has drifted, it will always return to the place where it was born.

==In the anime==
[[File:Phione Supersonic.png|thumb|250px|left|Phione in the anime]]
===Major appearances===
Multiple Phione made their debut appearance in the anime in ''[[DP113|Hold the Phione!]]'' where one was attracted to [[Dawn's Buneary]].
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===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}
{{Animedexbody|DP113|Phione|Dawn's Pokédex|Phione, the Sea Drifter Pokémon. Phione lives in warm oceans. It inflates the flotation sac on its head allowing it to float on the waves and look for {{pkmn|food}}.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond & Pearl''|Sinnoh}}

==In the manga==
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
[[File:Phione Adventures.png|thumb|right|200px|Phione in Pokémon Adventures]]
Phione made its debut in ''[[PS441|Alternate Dimension Showdown XI]]'', where it was revealed to have hatched from an Egg created by {{p|Manaphy}}.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Phione (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex/Header|type=water}}
{{Dex/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Dex/Gen|gen=IV}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Diamond|v2=Pearl|entry=A Pokémon that lives in warm seas. It inflates the flotation sac on its head to drift and search for food.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Platinum|entry=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=HeartGold|v2=SoulSilver|entry=When the water warms, they inflate the flotation sac on their heads and drift languidly on the sea in packs.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen|gen=V}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black|v2=White|t=FFF|entry=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black 2|v2=White 2|t=FFF|entry=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen|gen=VI}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=X|t=FFF|entry=When the water warms, they inflate the flotation sac on their heads and drift languidly on the sea in packs.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Y|entry=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Omega Ruby|t=fff|entry=When the water warms, they inflate the flotation sac on their heads and drift languidly on the sea in packs.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Alpha Sapphire|t=FFF|entry=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Footer}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability/Header|type=water}}
{{Availability/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=IV}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Diamond|v2=Pearl|area=[[My Pokémon Ranch]] {{pkmn|breeding|Breed}} {{p|Manaphy}}}}
{{Availability/Entry1/None|v=Platinum|area=[[My Pokémon Ranch]] (requires Platinum update, Japan only) {{pkmn|breeding|Breed}} {{p|Manaphy}}}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=HeartGold|v2=SoulSilver|area={{pkmn|breeding|Breed}} {{p|Manaphy}}}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=V}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Black|v2=White|area=[[Poké Transfer]]}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Black 2|v2=White 2|area=[[Poké Transfer]]}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=VI}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=X|v2=Y|area=[[Poké Transporter]]}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Omega Ruby|v2=Alpha Sapphire|area=[[Poké Transporter]]}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Footer}}

====In side games====
{{Availability/Header|type=Water}}
{{Availability/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=IV}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=MD Time|v2=MD Darkness|link=Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|area=[[Miracle Sea]] (Bottom){{tt|*|Automatically recruited on second visit}}}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=MD Sky|link=Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|area=[[Miracle Sea]] (Bottom){{tt|*|Automatically recruited on second visit}}}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=Ranch|link=My Pokémon Ranch|color={{diamond color}}|area=Store 250 Pokémon ([[Hayley's trades]])}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=Rumble|color={{fire color}}|area=Ticket for releasing {{p|Lapras}} and {{p|Vaporeon}}}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=Ranger: GS|link=Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs|color={{GS color}}|area=[[Canal Ruins]]}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=V}}
{{Availability/Entry1|1|v=Rumble Blast|color={{fire color}}|area=Beach: [[Rugged Flats]]{{tt|*|Get 20 customers}}}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Footer}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=water |
HP= 80 |
Attack= 80 |
Defense=80 |
SpAtk= 80 |
SpDef= 80 |
Speed= 80 }}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon|
|type=Water
|Speed=4
|SpeedMax=5
|Power=1
|PowerMax=2
|Technique=3
|TechniqueMax=5
|Stamina=1
|StaminaMax=3
|Jump=2
|JumpMax=3
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{TypeEffectiveness|
type1=water|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |
Fairy= 100}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/level6|Start|Bubble|Water|Special|40|100|30||'''|Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|Start|Water Sport|Water|Status|—|—|15}|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|9|Charm|Fairy|Status|—|100|20|||Cute|2|1}}
{{learnlist/level6|16|Supersonic|Normal|Status|—|55|20|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|24|Bubble Beam|Water|Special|65|100|20||'''|Beautiful|2|3}}
{{learnlist/level6|31|Acid Armor|Poison|Status|—|—|20|||Tough|1|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|39|Whirlpool|Water|Special|35|85|15||'''|Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|46|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20||'''|Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|54|Aqua Ring|Water|Status|—|—|20|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|61|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10||'''|Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|69|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/levelf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM07|Hail|Ice|Status|—|—|10|||Beautiful|2|1}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|60|100|15|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM13|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|90|100|10|||Beautiful|1|4}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM14|Blizzard|Ice|Special|110|70|5|||Beautiful|1|3}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25|||Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|||Cute|2|3}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|||Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|||Cool|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15|||Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM55|Scald|Water|Special|80|100|15||'''|Tough|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM56|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Clever|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM86|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20|||Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM88|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM89|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20|||Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM94|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|{{sup/6|ORAS}}||Clever|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM99|Dazzling Gleam|Fairy|Special|80|100|10|||Beautiful|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM100|Confide|Normal|Status|—|—|20|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|HM03|Surf|Water|Special|90|100|15||'''|Beautiful|2|2}}
{{learnlist/tm6|HM05|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15||'''|Tough|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|HM07|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10|{{sup/6|ORAS}}|'''|Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tmf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/breed6null}}
{{learnlist/breedf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Bounce|Flying|Physical|85|85|5|||no|yes|Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Covet|Normal|Physical|60|100|25|||no|yes|Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Heal Bell|Normal|Status|—|—|5|||no|yes|Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20|||no|yes|Clever|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|||no|yes|Beautiful|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Knock Off|Dark|Physical|65|100|25|||no|yes|Clever|2|3}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Last Resort|Normal|Physical|140|100|5|||no|yes|Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Signal Beam|Bug|Special|75|100|15|||no|yes|Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Snore|Normal|Special|50|100|15|||no|yes|Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Uproar|Normal|Special|90|100|10|||no|yes|Cute|2|1}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20||'''|no|yes|Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tutorf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=water |
ndex=489 |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=100 |
iq=B |
Ranger3=yes |
group3=Water |
assist3=Water |
field3=Cut |
field3power=2 |
browser3=It attacks by spitting bubbles that make Pokémon Slowed. |
rumble=yes|
rumbleattack=3|
rumbledefense=3|
rumblespeed=3|
rumble2=yes|
rumble2attack=3|
rumble2defense=3|
rumble2speed=3|
}}

===Evolution===
{{Evobox
|family=Breedonly
|sprite1=489Phione
|name1=Phione
|type1-1=Water
|evotype1=None
|sprite2=490Manaphy
|name2=Manaphy
|type1-2=Water
}}

===Sprites===
{{Spritebox/Header|type=Water}}
{{Spritebox/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Spritebox/4|ndex=489}}
{{Spritebox/5|ndex=489}}
{{Spritebox/6|ndex=489}}
{{Spritebox/Footer|489|Phione}}

==Trivia==
* Phione is the only Pokémon that is obtainable by breeding a [[Mythical Pokémon]].
* Breeding either {{p|Manaphy}} or Phione can produce a Phione Egg, but Phione is unable to evolve into Manaphy nor produce Eggs that can hatch into Manaphy.
** Consequently, Phione and Manaphy are the only {{tt|Mythical Pokémon|although Phione's Mythical status is disputed}} that can be bred.
* Phione, {{p|Nidoran♂}}, {{p|Nidoran♀}}, {{p|Illumise}} and {{p|Volbeat}} are the only Pokémon that can be obtained by breeding a Pokémon they cannot evolve into.
* Phione shares the exact same base stats with {{p|Glalie}}.
* Phione is not found in any regional Pokédex.
* If it were counted as a [[Mythical Pokémon]], Phione would have the lowest [[base stats|base stat total]] out of all Legendary or Mythical Pokémon.

===Legendary status===
Phione's status as a [[Legendary Pokémon]] is disputed, with several pieces of evidence and even official statements often contradicting each other.

====Evidence for====
* In [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]: [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|Explorers of Time, Darkness]] and [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|Sky]], Phione has a 100% recruit rate, is never battled, and the player is not allowed to recruit more than one to their team, all of which are traits otherwise only exhibited by Legendary and Mythical Pokémon.
* Phione is banned from the {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}}, the [[Battle Subway]], the [[Pokémon World Tournament]], and the [[Battle Maison]], a rule which typically applies only to Mythical Pokémon and major Legendary Pokémon. The only confirmed non-Legendary Pokémon to have been event-only at one point, {{p|Zorua}} and {{p|Zoroark}}, were allowed in the Battle Subway, indicating Phione's battle facility ban may be due to its status.
* Phione [[List of Pokémon that do not appear in any regional Pokédex|is not found in any regional Pokédex]], a trait that is otherwise exclusive to [[Generation IV]] Legendary and Mythical Pokémon.
* In [[Pokémon Rumble Blast]], Phione can only be unlocked once a certain number of customers have shopped at the Toy Shop, a trait otherwise exclusive to Legendary and Mythical Pokémon.
* Phione was featured in Pokémon.com's 2012 [http://www.pokemon.com/powerbracket/us/ Pokémon Power Bracket], a single-elimination tournament where all other Pokémon in the bracket were Legendary and Mythical Pokémon.
* Phione is a usable Pokémon in the recently announced [[Rotation Battle]] tournament ''Circle of Legends'' where only Legendary and Mythical Pokémon are allowed.

====Evidence against====
* Phione can breed to produce another Phione; this is impossible with any other Legendary and Mythical Pokémon. However, Manaphy can also breed to produce Phione, and Manaphy is a confirmed Mythical Pokémon.
* [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver: Prima's Official Strategy Guide]] states that Phione is not Legendary.
* In [[Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs]], all Legendary Pokémon are referred to as Legendary, and all Mythical Pokémon are referred to as "rare," but Phione is neither. It is also found normally in the wild.

====Other====
* [[Pokémon.com]]'s mailbag was once asked if Phione was Legendary. The official answer was initially no, but was quickly changed to yes; the whole mailbag section has since been taken down with the restructure of Pokémon.com.
* Originally, Phione was not needed in order to complete the [[National Pokédex]], as with other Mythical Pokémon. However, beginning with [[Pokémon X and Y]], it is needed to qualify for the [[diploma]].

===Origin===
{{bulbanews|On the Origin of Species: Manaphy and Phione}}
Phione is probably based on {{wp|sea angel}}s, specifically {{wp|clione}}. Clione are remarkably popular in Japanese documentaries, especially in {{wp|Hokkaido}}, on which Sinnoh is based (this may also explain their appearance in [[Chocovine Town]]).

====Name origin====
Phione may be a combination of the final syllable of ''{{p|Manaphy}}'' and ''{{wp|clione}}'' (sea angels). Like clione, Phione is pronounced in three syllables.

==References==
<references/>

==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=water|type2=water
|ja=フィオネ ''Phione''|jameaning=From a combination of final syllable of ''{{p|Manaphy}}'' and ''clione'' (sea angels)
|de=Phione|demeaning=Same as Japanese name
|fr=Phione|frmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|es=Phione|esmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|it=Phione|itmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|ko=피오네 ''Pione''|komeaning=Transliteration of Japanese name
|zh_cmn=霏歐納 ''Fēi Ōu Nà''|zh_cmnmeaning=Transliteration of Japanese name
}}
 

==External links==

{{Legendary Pokémon}} 
{{PokémonPrevNext |type=water | prevnum=488 | nextnum=490 | prev=Cresselia |next=Manaphy}}
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{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Promotion-only Pokémon]]
[[Category:Pokémon in no regional Pokédex]]

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Pokémon Shuffle

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{{redirect|Shuffle|the random mixing of cards|Glossary (TCG)#Shuffle|Glossary (TCG) → Shuffle}}
{{Infobox game
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|bordercolorscheme=cute
|name=Pokémon Shuffle
|jname=ポケとる
|boxart=Pokémon Shuffle logo.png
|size=200px
|caption=Logo of Pokémon Shuffle
|jbox=PokéToru logo.png
|jcaption=Japanese logo
|platform=[[Nintendo 3DS]]
|category=Puzzle
|players=1
|link_method=[[StreetPass]], [[Nintendo Network]]
|gen_series=[[Generation VI]] [[Spin-off Pokémon games|side series]]
|release_date_ja=February 18, 2015
|release_date_au=February 18, 2015
|release_date_eu=February 18, 2015
|release_date_na=February 18, 2015
|publisher=[[Nintendo]]
|developer=[[Genius Sonority]]
|cero=A
|esrb=E
|acb=G
|pegi=3
|website_ja=[http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/poketoru/ Official site] [http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/eshop/krxa/ Nintendo.co.jp]
|website_en=[http://www.pokemonshuffle.com/ Official site] [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-shuffle/ Pokémon.com] [http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/-5B0hNGkVWXTsEw0Jrlq7UbBn7qvAV2l Nintendo.com]
}}
{{bulbanews|game}}
{{StrategyWiki|Pokémon Shuffle}}
'''Pokémon Shuffle''' (Japanese: '''ポケとる''' ''PokéToru'') is a {{wp|freemium}} puzzle game released for the [[Nintendo 3DS]]. It was released on the Japanese, Australian, European, and North American Nintendo 3DS eShop on February 18, 2015. It updates itself during communication with a server (called "check in").

Pokémon Shuffle operates on a {{wp|free-to-play}} model—the game is free to download and play, although with a limited number of stages playable in quick succession. Players start with five Hearts and spend one Heart per stage played. Hearts will recharge for free as time passes at a rate of one Heart every 30 minutes, with no more regenerated if the player already has five Hearts. More Hearts can be purchased with Jewels, which can be bought with real money or occasionally received as prizes, to allow players to immediately resume their game. One Heart is also given for free when the player plays Stage 11 for the first time, even if the player has Hearts remaining.

==Blurb==
''Get ready for the latest Pokémon puzzle game! Match three or more Pokémon to clear them from the screen and damage the opponent Pokémon. But watch out—your moves are limited, so use them wisely! With no time limit, you can create the best matches to deal out maximum damage. With many popular Pokémon, including some Mega-Evolved Pokémon, this is the perfect puzzle game for fans and for new players who want to get in on the Pokémon fun.''

==Gameplay==
Pokémon Shuffle is a puzzle game in which the player matches Pokémon icons to defeat wild Pokémon, in a similar style to [[Pokémon Battle Trozei]]. The player can capture Pokémon and use them as Support Pokémon. Each Pokémon has a Skill that can be activated when it is matched in a battle, with the criteria being that the move was not part of a combo and a special criteria based on the Skill in question (sometimes at random). Pokémon have a set capture rate that is added to depending on how many moves a player has left at the end of a battle. As of Version 1.2.0, this figure can occasionally be doubled before the capture attempt. During normal game-play, Pokémon can be moved anywhere in the Puzzle Area, but cannot be moved if they do not cause a match. No-match moves are allowed in timed stages, however.

Mega Stones are given out throughout the game, awarded when the player defeats the corresponding Mega Pokémon used by a Trainer. The player can use them by putting the Pokémon that uses them at the front of their Support, and the Mega Evolution is activated by matching the Pokémon that Mega Evolves until the Mega Gauge to the left of the play area is full, at which point it Mega Evolves. While Mega Evolved, its Skill is replaced by a Mega Effect that activates whenever it is matched. The clock of a timed stage will stop while the Mega Evolution occurs.

The player is guided by [[Amelia]] during the tutorial portion of the game, which lasts until the player completes Stage 11 for the first time.

If at any time during a stage there are no moves the player can make that would result in a triplet, the game will say "Let's shake things up!" and replace all Pokémon on the Puzzle Area (removing all disruptions and adding any disruptions present at the start of the match), from when the player can continue to play. The clock of a timed stage stops while play is prevented. If the player is out of moves or time when this happens, even if the reset board contains matches none of them will deal damage unless the player chooses to continue by paying a Jewel.

===Disruptions===
Disruptions are things added to the stage by the opposing Pokémon to make clearing the stage harder. They are added when a counter that decreases when a move is made next to the opposing Pokémon reaches zero. The counter does not change if the foe is paralyzed, asleep or frozen. Some Pokémon create disruptions after a certain amount of time or number of matches, but will not count any combos or matches performed while it is paralyzed, asleep or frozen. All disruptions can be erased by a Mega Effect. All disruptions can be cleared by Stabilize, Stabilize+ and Disrupt Buster. Swap can replace disruptions with a Support Pokémon.
{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Disruption
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Effect
|- style="background:#fff"
|Barrier-type
|Prevents the Pokémon icon or disruption under it from moving in any way, including falling. Can be cleared by making a match using the Pokémon icon under it, Barrier Bash and the icon it affects being erased by Mega Effects, Quirky or Quirky+. If cleared by anything other than erasure the Pokémon icon under it is not destroyed. Can affect other disruptions.
|- style="background:#fff"
|Non-Support Pokémon icon
|A Pokémon icon of a Pokémon that was not selected as a support Pokémon for the stage. Can be moved freely, perform matches with itself and activate its skill. Can be cleared in any way a normal Pokémon icon can (including by another one of them activating Quirky or Quirky+), plus by Eject, although they may not be affected by Stabilise, Stabilise+ or Disrupt Buster. They come in three sub-types: as an additional support Pokémon (but without immunity to Eject), in the level at the start but not added by falling in, and added by the opposing Pokémon. Of these, only the first will change species if it is the same as the player's support Pokémon.
|- style="background:#fff"
|Coin
|An icon that gives the player bonus Coins if matched. Can be moved freely and performs matches with itself. Can be cleared in any way a normal Pokémon icon can, and they are affected by Stabilise, Stabilise+ or Disrupt Buster. +100 Coins for a match of three, +300 Coins for a match of four, +500 for a match of five, and +700 for a match of six regardless of any combos.
|- style="background:#fff"
|Unbreakable-block
|A metal block that falls, but cannot be moved by the stylus. Can be cleared by making a certain number of moves after it appears on the field or by Block Smash.
|- style="background:#fff"
|Breakable-rock
|A square rock that falls, but cannot be moved by the stylus. Can be cleared by making a match in any square next to it and Rock Break. Multiple matches required if it is under a barrier-type disruption.
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | Black-cloud
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | Prevents the player from seeing what is in the square it occupies. The Pokémon icon in this square can still be part of a match and can be moved. Can only be cleared by Cloud Clear and having whatever is under it erased (Mega Effects, Quirky or Quirky+ clearing it). Immune to Mega Effects if there is no Pokémon icon under it when the effect activates and targets the square it is in. Other disruptions can be present under it.
|}

===Ranks===
{{incomplete|section|needs=Thresholds for lower ranks}}
Whenever the player completes a stage, they will be awarded a rank, which is displayed next to their total score on a popup after completing the stage. The highest rank the player has ever earned for a particular stage is visible in the overworld, next to the stage. The rank the player earns is determined by the number of moves or amount of time the player has remaining, and the total number of moves or amount of time the player started the stage with. On some special stages, including but not limited to "Meowth's Coin Mania", competitive stages, and the Pokémon Safari, previous rankings do not appear for specific reasons.

For most move-limited stages, if the number of moves remaining upon competition of the stage is greater than or equal to half the total number of moves they started with (rounded down), the player will be awarded an S-rank.

For most timed stages, if the amount of time remaining upon competition of the stage is greater than or equal to half the total amount of time they started with (rounded down), the player will be awarded an S-rank.

All Competitive Stages and Stage 149: {{p|Haxorus}} will always grant an S-rank upon competition, regardless of performance.

Expert stages are unlocked depending on total number of S-ranks the player has on main stages. Ranks on expert and special stages have no impact on gameplay.

==Check in==
The player can use the "check in" function once per day (server days end at 6:00 AM UTC the morning after the day ends in UTC time), which connects the player's game to the internet and gives them a reward for doing so. This normally grants 500 Coins, but will grant 1000 Coins every 10 times the player checks in.

Checking in checks for any patches the player may not have installed. If there are any minor patches, the game asks the player if they wish to download extra data, and if they do, it automatically downloads and installs it; this is the only way to install minor patches for the game. If there are any major patches, it provides a link to a page on the Nintendo eShop to download it and requests that the player download it. If there is a patch and the player does not install it, the player cannot check in. If a patch is released partway through the day and the check-in function has already been used, the patch can be downloaded on that day by attempting to check-in, but will not succeed with the check-in.

Checking in also adds any special stages the player does not already have (daily stages, such as "The Daily Pokémon (#1)", only need to be downloaded once, and will be cycled through with the system's clock). If the system time is changed, the player must check in again to regain access to any active special stages they have, thereby syncing with the server once again.

==Version history==
===Version 1.0.x===
{| class="roundy" style="border: 3px solid #{{cute color}}; background: #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background: #{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Version
! style="background: #{{beauty color light}}" | Release date
! style="background: #{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Changes
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.0.0
| February 18, 2015
| Initial release
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.0.1
| February 18, 2015
| Adds the special stages "Launch Special: Meet Mew" (first edition) and "The Daily Pokémon (#1)".
|-
| style="background:#FFF; {{roundybl|5px}}" | 1.0.2
| style="background:#FFF" | February 20, 2015
| style="background:#FFF; {{roundybr|5px}}" | Fixes [[List of glitches in spin-off games#Use any Pokémon glitch|a glitch]] that allowed a player to use any Pokémon in the game at any time.
|}

===Version 1.1.x===
{| class="roundy" style="border: 3px solid #{{cute color}}; background: #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background: #{{beauty color light}}; text-align:center; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Version
! style="background: #{{beauty color light}}; text-align:center" width="90px" | Release date
! style="background: #{{beauty color light}}; text-align:center; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Changes
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.1.0
| March 6, 2015
| Prevents exploitation of QR codes to manipulate the game. Removes access to special stages.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.1.1
| March 6, 2015
| Restores access to special stages.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.1.2
| March 9, 2015
| Adds the "Great Challenge" special stage "Kyogre Makes a Splash" and the "Launch Special: Meet Mew" special stage "Mew Strikes Again".
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.1.3
| March 15, 2015
| Adds the timed Competitive Stage for Mega Lucario.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.1.4
| March 17, 2015
| Fixes a glitch in the Mega Lucario Competitive Stage, which caused a high score of 9,999,999 and rendered contest score submission impossible.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.1.5
| March 23, 2015
| Adds main stages 151-165, the "Great Challenge" special stage "Keldeo Rears Its Head", and the special stage "The Daily Pokémon (#2)". Also awards the Lucarionites and consolation prize Jewels from the competition.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.1.6
| March 27, 2015
| Awards 1 Jewel to each Lucarionite winners. (The Jewel was advertised as being given to all participants in the competition, but technical limitations meant only non-placing players were awarded a Jewel.)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.1.7
| March 30, 2015
| Adds the Great Challenge special stage "Rayquaza's Ascension". Resets all ranks on special stages, which allows the player to get 200 coins instead of 30 upon the first re-clear of each special stage.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.1.8
| April 6, 2015
| Adds the Competitive Stage for Mega Blastoise.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.1.9
| April 13, 2015
| Adds main stages 166-180 as well as the "Great Challenge" special stage "Groudon Lands at Last". Also awards the Blastoisinites and consolation prize Jewels from the competition.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.1.10
| April 20, 2015
| Adds the "Pokémon Safari" special stage.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.1.11
| April 27, 2015
| Adds the "3.5 Million Celebration" Celebi special stage (available immediately), Mega Banette Competitive Stage (available starting May 1), the "The Daily Pokémon (#1)" special stage (available starting May 4), "One chance a day!" Pinsir special stage (available starting May 7), and compatibility for a code for 5 "Exp. Points x1.5" items (redeemable starting April 30).
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.1.12
| May 11, 2015
| Adds main stages 181-190 as well as the "Great Challenge" special stage "Regirock Rocks the Scene".
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.1.13
| May 18, 2015
| Adds the special stage "The Daily Pokémon (#3)" as well as the move-limited Mega Lucario Competitive Stage.
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | 1.1.14
| style="background:#fff" | May 25, 2015
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | Adds the "4 Million Celebration" Shaymin special stage. Changes the description of the item "Complexity -1" , and gives all players a free Complexity -1. Also awards the Lucarionites and Jewels from the competition.
|}

===Version 1.2.x===
[[File:Shuffle 1-2-1 Heart Display.png|thumb|right|The top screen as shown in Version 1.2.1]]
Version 1.2.0 was available from the Nintendo eShop on May 26, 2015. This update provides a significant number of new features and bug fixes.

*Hearts are separated into regenerating Hearts and bonus Hearts (obtained either from StreetPass or exchanging Jewels). Regenerating Hearts are capped at 5, and will always be used instead of the bonus Hearts if there are any. Bonus hearts are capped at 99. Any Hearts the player had before the update are now treated as bonus Hearts, and the player's regenerating Hearts start off at 5 after installing the update.
*A candy icon now appears in the top right corner of Mega Effect descriptions, with "0/x" next to it. The value of x depends on the species of the Pokémon; it differs even between Pokémon with the same Mega Effect and seems to be tied with how long each Pokémon takes to Mega Evolve.
*Levels and experience points are now displayed on the Optimize screen.
*After successfully completing a stage, if the player fails to catch a Pokémon with their first Poké Ball (before using a Great Ball), they have a chance of being offered a "Super Catch Power". This Super Catch Power provides a somewhat random boost on top of the Great Ball's boost (the player still uses a Great Ball, and can use the same number of Great Balls as they could without the "Super Catch Power").
*After successfully catching a Pokémon, its attack power and Skill are now displayed on the top screen, in the same way as when selecting Pokémon for a stage.
*The Skill "Block Bash" has been renamed "Block Smash", and the "Bonbon Boulevard" area has been renamed "Sweet Strasse".
*If the player leaves a stage select screen and later returns to it, it will reappear exactly as the player left it. Previously, the screen would be focused on the last available stage in that category.

*New mechanics added to detect cheating and remove such entries from competitive contest stages, and possibly prevent those players from taking part altogether.
*Prevents going to the Home menu by pressing the Home button during timed stages while the timer is running. Previously, this exploit could be used to view the board without a timer in both expert stages and Competitive Stages.

*Fixes a bug which caused some non-Mega Evolved icons of the lead Pokémon to appear after Mega Evolution on Stage 176: Timburr.
*Fixes a bug which prevented Mewtwo from Mega Evolving into Mega Mewtwo Y, and from being selected as the lead Pokémon when using the Optimize button.

{| class="roundy" style="border: 3px solid #{{cute color}}; background: #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background: #{{beauty color light}}; text-align:center; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Version
! style="background: #{{beauty color light}}; text-align:center" width="90px" | Release date
! style="background: #{{beauty color light}}; text-align:center; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Changes
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.2.0
| May 26, 2015
| As detailed above.
|-
| style="background:#FFF; {{roundybl|5px}}" | 1.2.1
| style="background:#FFF" | May 26, 2015
| style="background:#FFF; {{roundybr|5px}}" | Restores access to special stages. "The Daily Pokémon (#3)" notice has its background color changed from green to orange. Adds Victini to the Pokémon List. The Shaymin special stage "4 Million Celebration" now only gives 1000 Coins upon the first clear, not the first daily clear.
|}

==Passcodes==
The game includes a passcode function, where the player can enter an 8-digit code that will grant a reward in-game. It is similar to the "Receive via code" option of the [[Mystery Gift]] feature found in the [[Generation VI]] [[core series]] Pokémon games.

===Common codes===
{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Passcode
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Reward
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Period
|- style="background:#fff"
| 20150007
| 2 Mega Starts
| March 8 to April 30, 2015
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | 04482045
| style="background:#fff" | 5 Exp. Points x1.5
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | April 30, 2015 to a later date
|}

===Unique codes===
{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Source
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Reward
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Period
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | [http://www.famitsu.com/news/201503/17074142.html April 2nd and 9th issue of Famitsu magazine]
| style="background:#fff" | 1 Jewel
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | March 19 to May 1, 2015
|}

==Jewels==
The game's microtransactions are focused around Jewels. Jewels can be obtained in-game by completing Trainer stages (first time only), via other special means, and via purchase on the Nintendo eShop. Players under the age of 18 cannot spend more than a fixed amount in-game per month (US$80, €100, £80, AU$150, NZ$150, or ¥10,000). Additionally, one Jewel was given to all players on February 21, 2015 to apologize for a software glitch that occurred around February 19, 2015; this bonus was for everyone, not just those affected by the glitch.

Each time the player plays a stage, a Heart is consumed; Hearts are replenished over time, or can be obtained in exchange for Jewels. Additionally, each time the player clears a stage they will be rewarded with a number of Coins based on their performance; Coins can be spent on items in-game.

If the player runs out of turns or time during a stage, they can spend 1 Jewel to gain 5 turns or 15 seconds. This bonus is not counted towards the time/turn bonus when catching the Pokémon.

===Exchange===
Jewels can be exchanged for either Hearts or Coins (but only one at a time) at the following rates:
{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Jewels
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}};" | Hearts
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Coins
|- style="background:#fff"
|1
|5
|3,000
|- style="background:#fff"
|3
|18 (+20%)
|10,000 (+11%)
|- style="background:#fff"
|6
|38 (+27%)
|22,000 (+22%)
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | 12
| style="background:#fff" | 80 (+33%)
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | 48,000 (+33%)
|}

==StreetPass==
If [[StreetPass]] is enabled for Pokémon Shuffle, whenever the player StreetPasses another player with StreetPass enabled for Pokémon Shuffle they will share data with each other. The player will be added to the StreetPass tag log, which will display their most recently used Pokémon, their total playtime, their number of stages cleared, their number of Pokémon caught, and their number of previous StreetPass tags, as well as the time they were last StreetPassed.

Additionally, the player will receive rewards based on the number of StreetPass tags they have had.
{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Number of Tags
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Reward
|- style="background:#fff"
| First StreetPass tag
| 1 Jewel
|- style="background:#fff"
| 5 StreetPass tags
| 1 Heart
|- style="background:#fff"
| Every 10 StreetPass tags{{tt|*|Unless the player would receive a Jewel due to it being 100 StreetPass tags}}
| 1 Heart
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" |Every 100 StreetPass tags before 10,000 tags total
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" |1 Jewel
|}

Further rewards are earned if the same system is met via StreetPass multiple times in a row. These rewards are in addition to any earned for the total number of hits.
{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Tags
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Reward
|- style="background:#fff"
| 3-4
| 1 Heart
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | 5
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | 2 Hearts
|}

Finally, if there are no StreetPass tags received in a long enough period, more rewards may be earned upon receiving a new tag. This is in addition to any rewards earned for the number of tags. It is currently unknown if this resets the counter of multiple tags from the same system in a row.
{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Days between tags
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Reward
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | ??
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | 2 Hearts
|}

==Stages==
===Main stages===
====Puerto Blanco====
{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Stage
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" width="120px" | Pokémon
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Hit Points
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" width="55px" | Type
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Moves
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Base capture %
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Move bonus
|- style="background:#fff"
|1
|{{p|Espurr}}
|200
|Psychic
|8
|{{tt|75%|As this is the tutorial, the game forces the player's puzzle moves and guarantees the catch.}}
|{{tt|5%|As this is the tutorial, the game forces the player's puzzle moves and guarantees the catch.}}
|- style="background:#fff"
|2
|{{p|Bulbasaur}}
|360
|Grass
|7
|75%
|{{tt|4%|The game gives five bonus moves for free (tutorial only), but these are not factored in, making the best possible catch rate 99%.}}
|- style="background:#fff"
|3
|{{p|Squirtle}}
|400
|Water
|15
|50%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|4
|{{p|Charmander}}
|400
|Fire
|15
|30%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|5
|{{p|Eevee}}
|450
|Normal
|15
|{{tt|20%|The tutorial forces a missed catch, giving a free Great Ball to show it off.}}
|{{tt|3%|The tutorial forces a missed catch, giving a free Great Ball to show it off.}}
|- style="background:#fff"
|6
|{{p|Pidgey}}
|650
|Flying
|12
|60%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|7
|{{p|Togepi}}
|650
|Fairy
|10
|20%
|8%
|- style="background:#fff"
|8
|{{p|Pichu}}
|800
|Electric
|7
|7%
|7%
|- style="background:#fff"
|9
|{{p|Audino}}
|900
|Normal
|15
|60%
|3%
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | 10
| style="background:#fff" | {{me|Audino}}
| style="background:#fff" | 1,200
| style="background:#fff" | Normal
| style="background:#fff" | 15
| style="background:#fff" | N/A
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | N/A
|}

====Sandy Bazaar====
{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Stage
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" width="120px" | Pokémon
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Hit Points
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" width="55px" | Type
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Moves
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Base capture %
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Move bonus
|- style="background:#fff"
|11
|{{p|Happiny}}
|2,000
|Normal
|15
|70%
|2%
|- style="background:#fff"
|12
|{{p|Mareep}}
|1,411
|Electric
|16
|40%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|13
|{{p|Purrloin}}
|1,194
|Dark
|15
|70%
|2%
|- style="background:#fff"
|14
|{{p|Torchic}}
|491
|Fire
|5
|5%
|9%
|- style="background:#fff"
|15
|{{p|Phanpy}}
|1,803
|Ground
|13
|30%
|6%
|- style="background:#fff"
|16
|{{p|Nidoran♀}}
|398
|Poison
|3
|70%
|10%
|- style="background:#fff"
|17
|{{p|Nidoran♂}}
|2,268
|Poison
|15
|20%
|6%
|- style="background:#fff"
|18
|{{p|Klefki}}
|1,755
|Steel
|16
|5%
|6%
|- style="background:#fff"
|19
|{{p|Kangaskhan}}
|1,244
|Normal
|15
|70%
|2%
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | 20
| style="background:#fff" | {{me|Kangaskhan}}
| style="background:#fff" | 2,463
| style="background:#fff" | Normal
| style="background:#fff" | 20
| style="background:#fff" | N/A
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | N/A
|}

====Night Festival====
{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Stage
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" width="120px" | Pokémon
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Hit Points
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" width="55px" | Type
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Moves
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Base capture %
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Move bonus
|- style="background:#fff"
|21
|{{p|Buneary}}
|3,257
|Normal
|30
|50%
|2%
|- style="background:#fff"
|22
|{{p|Treecko}}
|1,978
|Grass
|15
|5%
|3%
|- style="background:#fff"
|23
|{{p|Pikachu}}
|903
|Electric
|7
|30%
|10%
|- style="background:#fff"
|24
|{{p|Sableye}}
|2,095
|Dark
|15
|55%
|3%
|- style="background:#fff"
|25
|{{p|Litwick}}
|1,734
|Ghost
|16
|45%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|26
|{{p|Chingling}}
|1,978
|Psychic
|15
|80%
|2%
|- style="background:#fff"
|27
|{{p|Swirlix}}
|2,474
|Fairy
|16
|70%
|2%
|- style="background:#fff"
|28
|{{p|Volbeat}}
|2,045
|Bug
|15
|30%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|29
|{{p|Illumise}}
|1,859
|Bug
|15
|30%
|5%
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | 30
| style="background:#fff" | {{me|Sableye}}
| style="background:#fff" | 4,386
| style="background:#fff" | Dark
| style="background:#fff" | 20
| style="background:#fff" | N/A
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | N/A
|}

====Isla Asul====
{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Stage
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" width="120px" | Pokémon
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Hit Points
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" width="55px" | Type
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Moves
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Base capture %
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Move bonus
|- style="background:#fff"
|31
|{{p|Slowpoke}}
|4,765
|Psychic
|19
|20%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|32
|{{p|Azurill}}
|2,873
|Fairy
|16
|60%
|3%
|- style="background:#fff"
|33
|{{p|Riolu}}
|3,344
|Fighting
|15
|3%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|34
|{{p|Swablu}}
|908
|Flying
|6
|40%
|10%
|- style="background:#fff"
|35
|{{p|Surskit}}
|3,344
|Bug
|15
|60%
|3%
|- style="background:#fff"
|36
|{{p|Taillow}}
|615
|Flying
|5
|70%
|6%
|- style="background:#fff"
|37
|{{p|Meowth}}
|1,160
|Normal
|8
|15%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|38
|{{p|Croagunk}}
|3,344
|Poison
|15
|60%
|3%
|- style="background:#fff"
|39
|{{p|Corsola}}
|3,027
|Water
|16
|70%
|2%
|- style="background:#fff"
|40
|{{p|Marill}}
|658
|Fairy
|3
|60%
|14%
|- style="background:#fff"
|41
|{{p|Mudkip}}
|2,340
|Water
|15
|10%
|3%
|- style="background:#fff"
|42
|{{p|Vulpix}}
|1,054
|Fire
|5
|30%
|14%
|- style="background:#fff"
|43
|{{p|Lapras}}
|3,344
|Water
|15
|10%
|6%
|- style="background:#fff"
|44
|{{p|Pidgeotto}}
|2,078
|Flying
|15
|60%
|3%
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | 45
| style="background:#fff" | {{me|Slowbro}}
| style="background:#fff" | 7,014
| style="background:#fff" | Psychic
| style="background:#fff" | 23
| style="background:#fff" | N/A
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | N/A
|}

====Rainbow Park====
{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Stage
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" width="120px" | Pokémon
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Hit Points
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" width="55px" | Type
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Moves
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Base capture %
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Move bonus
|- style="background:#fff"
|46
|{{p|Minccino}}
|730
|Normal
|5
|70%
|6%
|- style="background:#fff"
|47
|{{p|Vanillite}}
|2,590
|Ice
|15
|50%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|48
|{{p|Chatot}}
|2,866
|Flying
|16
|35%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|49
|{{p|Axew}}
|2,327
|Dragon
|15
|15%
|6%
|- style="background:#fff"
|50
|{{p|Zorua}}
|3,710
|Dark
|15
|10%
|3%
|- style="background:#fff"
|51
|{{p|Mawile}}
|645
|Steel
|3
|15%
|29%
|- style="background:#fff"
|52
|{{p|Lopunny}}
|750
|Normal
|5
|35%
|13%
|- style="background:#fff"
|53
|{{p|Flaaffy}}
|2,297
|Electric
|15
|70%
|2%
|- style="background:#fff"
|54
|{{p|Vaporeon}}
|2,597
|Water
|15
|5%
|7%
|- style="background:#fff"
|55
|{{p|Charmeleon}}
|3,710
|Fire
|15
|7%
|3%
|- style="background:#fff"
|56
|{{p|Buizel}}
|3,200
|Water
|16
|60%
|3%
|- style="background:#fff"
|57
|{{p|Wartortle}}
|2,597
|Water
|15
|7%
|3%
|- style="background:#fff"
|58
|{{p|Hawlucha}}
|2,077
|Fighting
|9
|30%
|8%
|- style="background:#fff"
|59
|{{p|Ivysaur}}
|738
|Grass
|3
|7%
|15%
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | 60
| style="background:#fff" | {{me|Lopunny}}
| style="background:#fff" | 6,195
| style="background:#fff" | Normal
| style="background:#fff" | 20
| style="background:#fff" | N/A
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | N/A
|}

====Galerie Rouge====
{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Stage
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" width="120px" | Pokémon
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Hit Points
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" width="55px" | Type
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Moves
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Base capture %
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Move bonus
|- style="background:#fff"
|61
|{{p|Bonsly}}
|3,820
|Rock
|16
|70%
|2%
|- style="background:#fff"
|62
|{{p|Gastly}}
|3,022
|Ghost
|11
|15%
|8%
|- style="background:#fff"
|63
|{{p|Marshtomp}}
|3,710
|Water
|15
|7%
|3%
|- style="background:#fff"
|64
|{{p|Dratini}}
|1,075
|Dragon
|5
|45%
|11%
|- style="background:#fff"
|65
|{{p|Amaura}}
|2,866
|Rock
|15
|60%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|66
|{{p|Combusken}}
|738
|Fire
|3
|7%
|15%
|- style="background:#fff"
|67
|{{p|Meowstic}} (male)
|3,830
|Psychic
|15
|35%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|68
|{{p|Togetic}}
|1,190
|Fairy
|5
|60%
|8%
|- style="background:#fff"
|69
|{{p|Slowbro}}
|1,736
|Psychic
|7
|8%
|6%
|- style="background:#fff"
|70
|{{p|Umbreon}}
|3,116
|Dark
|15
|5%
|7%
|- style="background:#fff"
|71
|{{p|Espeon}}
|5,325
|Psychic
|15
|5%
|7%
|- style="background:#fff"
|72
|{{p|Grovyle}}
|835
|Grass
|4
|7%
|11%
|- style="background:#fff"
|73
|{{p|Swellow}}
|3,350
|Flying
|16
|70%
|2%
|- style="background:#fff"
|74
|{{p|Cubone}}
|3,578
|Ground
|15
|15%
|6%
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | 75
| style="background:#fff" | {{me|Altaria}}
| style="background:#fff" | 6,730
| style="background:#fff" | Dragon
| style="background:#fff" | 20
| style="background:#fff" | N/A
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | N/A
|}

====Sweet Strasse====
Prior to version 1.2.0, this area was known as Bonbon Boulevard.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Stage
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" width="120px" | Pokémon
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Hit Points
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" width="55px" | Type
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Moves
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Base capture %
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Move bonus
|- style="background:#fff"
|76
|{{p|Azumarill}}
|3,508
|Fairy
|16
|80%
|2%
|- style="background:#fff"
|77
|{{p|Mienfoo}}
|3,836
|Fighting
|15
|50%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|78
|{{p|Snorunt}}
|2,982
|Ice
|15
|40%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|79
|{{p|Sylveon}}
|4,477
|Fairy
|15
|5%
|7%
|- style="background:#fff"
|80
|{{p|Miltank}}
|3,982
|Normal
|16
|70%
|2%
|- style="background:#fff"
|81
|{{p|Meowstic}} (female)
|1,736
|Psychic
|7
|45%
|8%
|- style="background:#fff"
|82
|{{p|Masquerain}}
|3,118
|Bug
|15
|70%
|2%
|- style="background:#fff"
|83
|{{p|Cottonee}}
|1,380
|Grass
|5
|60%
|8%
|- style="background:#fff"
|84
|{{p|Petilil}}
|3,118
|Grass
|15
|50%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|85
|{{p|Dedenne}}
|3,490
|Electric
|15
|7%
|3%
|- style="background:#fff"
|86
|{{p|Slurpuff}}
|3,508
|Fairy
|16
|25%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|87
|{{p|Liepard}}
|4,290
|Dark
|15
|12%
|3%
|- style="background:#fff"
|88
|{{p|Chansey}}
|921
|Normal
|3
|10%
|30%
|- style="background:#fff"
|89
|{{p|Gulpin}}
|4,376
|Poison
|16
|55%
|3%
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | 90
| style="background:#fff" | {{me|Mawile}}
| style="background:#fff" | 5,410
| style="background:#fff" | Steel
| style="background:#fff" | 20
| style="background:#fff" | N/A
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | N/A
|}

====Silbern Museum====
{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Stage
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" width="120px" | Pokémon
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Hit Points
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" width="55px" | Type
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Moves
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Base capture %
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Move bonus
|- style="background:#fff"
|91
|{{p|Bronzor}}
|3,778
|Steel
|16
|70%
|2%
|- style="background:#fff"
|92
|{{p|Emolga}}
|1,000
|Electric
|5
|25%
|15%
|- style="background:#fff"
|93
|{{p|Sudowoodo}}
|3,957
|Rock
|15
|50%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|94
|{{p|Scyther}}
|4,455
|Bug
|15
|40%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|95
|{{p|Nidorina}}
|4,923
|Poison
|16
|15%
|6%
|- style="background:#fff"
|96
|{{p|Nidorino}}
|4,064
|Poison
|15
|45%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|97
|{{p|Carbink}}
|1,340
|Rock
|5
|60%
|8%
|- style="background:#fff"
|98
|{{p|Throh}}
|5,206
|Fighting
|15
|20%
|6%
|- style="background:#fff"
|99
|{{p|Sawk}}
|5,480
|Fighting
|15
|20%
|6%
|- style="background:#fff"
|100
|{{p|Chimecho}}
|5,163
|Psychic
|16
|70%
|2%
|- style="background:#fff"
|101
|{{p|Donphan}}
|1,305
|Ground
|5
|20%
|16%
|- style="background:#fff"
|102
|{{p|Fraxure}}
|4,260
|Dragon
|15
|35%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|103
|{{p|Raichu}}
|3,438
|Electric
|13
|3%
|8%
|- style="background:#fff"
|104
|{{p|Aerodactyl}}
|3,598
|Rock
|15
|15%
|6%
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | 105
| style="background:#fff" | {{me|Ampharos}}
| style="background:#fff" | 6,215
| style="background:#fff" | Electric
| style="background:#fff" | 20
| style="background:#fff" | N/A
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | N/A
|}

====Mt. Vinter====
{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Stage
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" width="120px" | Pokémon
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Hit Points
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" width="55px" | Type
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Moves
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Base capture %
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Move bonus
|- style="background:#fff"
|106
|{{p|Delibird}}
|4,985
|Ice
|16
|25%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|107
|{{p|Misdreavus}}
|738
|Ghost
|3
|55%
|15%
|- style="background:#fff"
|108
|{{p|Glalie}}
|5,654
|Ice
|15
|15%
|6%
|- style="background:#fff"
|109
|{{p|Dragonair}}
|3,430
|Dragon
|15
|2%
|7%
|- style="background:#fff"
|110
|{{p|Mienshao}}
|5,480
|Fighting
|15
|25%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|111
|{{p|Vanillish}}
|1,948
|Ice
|7
|65%
|1%
|- style="background:#fff"
|112
|{{p|Jolteon}}
|4,070
|Electric
|15
|5%
|7%
|- style="background:#fff"
|113
|{{p|Cinccino}}
|3,430
|Normal
|15
|40%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|114
|{{p|Glaceon}}
|5,140
|Ice
|15
|5%
|7%
|- style="background:#fff"
|115
|{{p|Blissey}}
|4,322
|Normal
|16
|5%
|6%
|- style="background:#fff"
|116
|{{p|Aurorus}}
|4,112
|Rock
|15
|60%
|3%
|- style="background:#fff"
|117
|{{p|Ninetales}}
|1,574
|Fire
|7
|25%
|11%
|- style="background:#fff"
|118
|{{p|Altaria}}
|4,900
|Dragon
|15
|30%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|119
|{{p|Vanilluxe}}
|5,348
|Ice
|16
|45%
|4%
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | 120
| style="background:#fff" | {{me|Glalie}}
| style="background:#fff" | 7,655
| style="background:#fff" | Ice
| style="background:#fff" | 20
| style="background:#fff" | N/A
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | N/A
|}

====Castle Noapte====
{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Stage
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" width="120px" | Pokémon
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Hit Points
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" width="55px" | Type
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Moves
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Base capture %
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Move bonus
|- style="background:#fff"
|121
|{{p|Haunter}}
|5,082
|Ghost
|16
|10%
|6%
|- style="background:#fff"
|122
|{{p|Lampent}}
|4,561
|Ghost
|15
|25%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|123
|{{p|Flareon}}
|1,779
|Fire
|7
|5%
|14%
|- style="background:#fff"
|124
|{{p|Swalot}}
|4,088
|Poison
|15
|50%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|125
|{{p|Gengar}}
|6,516
|Ghost
|15
|2%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|126
|{{p|Persian}}
|3,230
|Normal
|15
|5%
|7%
|- style="background:#fff"
|127
|{{p|Lilligant}}
|1,535
|Grass
|5
|70%
|6%
|- style="background:#fff"
|128
|{{p|Froslass}}
|921
|Ice
|3
|50%
|17%
|- style="background:#fff"
|129
|{{p|Zoroark}}
|4,795
|Dark
|15
|5%
|3%
|- style="background:#fff"
|130
|{{p|Ampharos}}
|15,550
|Electric
|50
|2%
|2%
|- style="background:#fff"
|131
|{{p|Mismagius}}
|5,009
|Ghost
|16
|50%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|132
|{{p|Slowking}}
|4,200
|Psychic
|15
|2%
|7%
|- style="background:#fff"
|133
|{{p|Bronzong}}
|5,500
|Steel
|15
|10%
|6%
|- style="background:#fff"
|134
|{{p|Chandelure}}
|2,149
|Ghost
|7
|50%
|8%
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | 135
| style="background:#fff" | {{me|Gengar}}
| style="background:#fff" | 8,090
| style="background:#fff" | Ghost
| style="background:#fff" | 20
| style="background:#fff" | N/A
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | N/A
|}

====Jungle Verde====
{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Stage
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" width="120px" | Pokémon
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Hit Points
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" width="55px" | Type
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Moves
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Base capture %
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Move bonus
|- style="background:#fff"
|136
|{{p|Stunfisk}}
|5,670
|Ground
|16
|25%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|137
|{{p|Pidgeot}}
|4,634
|Flying
|15
|7%
|7%
|- style="background:#fff"
|138
|{{p|Whimsicott}}
|5,363
|Grass
|16
|50%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|139
|{{p|Marowak}}
|4,672
|Ground
|15
|20%
|6%
|- style="background:#fff"
|140
|{{p|Nidoqueen}}
|5,840
|Poison
|15
|5%
|7%
|- style="background:#fff"
|141
|{{p|Nidoking}}
|5,840
|Poison
|15
|10%
|6%
|- style="background:#fff"
|142
|{{p|Leafeon}}
|4,483
|Grass
|15
|5%
|7%
|- style="background:#fff"
|143
|{{p|Scizor}}
|3,636
|Bug
|15
|5%
|7%
|- style="background:#fff"
|144
|{{p|Skarmory}}
|5,500
|Steel
|15
|35%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|145
|{{p|Floatzel}}
|5,201
|Water
|16
|50%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|146
|{{p|Toxicroak}}
|5,840
|Poison
|15
|25%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|147
|{{p|Togekiss}}
|3,162
|Fairy
|9
|10%
|10%
|- style="background:#fff"
|148
|{{p|Heracross}}
|5,195
|Bug
|15
|5%
|7%
|- style="background:#fff"
|149
|{{p|Haxorus}}
|1,666
|Dragon
|5
|65%
|7%
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | 150
| style="background:#fff" | {{me|Mewtwo}} Y
| style="background:#fff" | 11,111
| style="background:#fff" | Psychic
| style="background:#fff" | 23
| style="background:#fff" | N/A
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | N/A
|}

====Wacky Workshop====
{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Stage
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" width="120px" | Pokémon
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Hit Points
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" width="55px" | Type
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Moves
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Base capture %
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Move bonus
|- style="background:#fff"
|151
|{{p|Munchlax}}
|5,558
|Normal
|18
|55%
|3%
|- style="background:#fff"
|152
|{{p|Chespin}}
|6,553
|Grass
|16
|5%
|3%
|- style="background:#fff"
|153
|{{p|Onix}}
|12,355
|Rock
|18
|25%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|154
|{{p|Froakie}}
|4,384
|Water
|10
|5%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|155
|{{p|Smeargle}}
|900
|Normal
|5
|65%
|7%
|- style="background:#fff"
|156
|{{p|Fennekin}}
|4,771
|Fire
|12
|5%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|157
|{{p|Larvesta}}
|9,159
|Bug
|15
|40%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|158
|{{p|Feebas}}
|8,120
|Water
|20
|70%
|2%
|- style="background:#fff"
|159
|{{p|Poochyena}}
|4,176
|Dark
|10
|67%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|160
|{{p|Trubbish}}
|1,443
|Poison
|5
|44%
|12%
|- style="background:#fff"
|161
|{{p|Hippopotas}}
|5,544
|Ground
|15
|30%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|162
|{{p|Bagon}}
|11,645
|Dragon
|17
|17%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|163
|{{p|Pancham}}
|8,000
|Fighting
|10
|20%
|3%
|- style="background:#fff"
|164
|{{p|Yamask}}
|6,816
|Ghost
|12
|25%
|7%
|- style="background:#fff"
|165
|{{p|Milotic}}
|11,745
|Water
|30
|3%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|166
|{{p|Solosis}}
|15,200
|Psychic
|20
|36%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|167
|{{p|Honedge}}
|5,112
|Steel
|15
|22%
|6%
|- style="background:#fff"
|168
|{{p|Drilbur}}
|7,392
|Ground
|16
|45%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|169
|{{p|Larvitar}}
|7,603
|Rock
|18
|24%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|170
|{{p|Shuppet}}
|3,776
|Ghost
|10
|7%
|7%
|- style="background:#fff"
|171
|{{p|Rufflet}}
|7,952
|Flying
|16
|40%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|172
|{{p|Bergmite}}
|5,166
|Ice
|12
|13%
|8%
|- style="background:#fff"
|173
|{{p|Mightyena}}
|7,114
|Dark
|22
|7%
|3%
|- style="background:#fff"
|174
|{{p|Snubbull}}
|7,270
|Fairy
|16
|31%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|175
|{{p|Lickitung}}
|14,720
|Normal
|23
|12%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|176
|{{p|Timburr}}
|21,252
|Fighting
|35
|21%
|3%
|- style="background:#fff"
|177
|{{p|Banette}}
|12,096
|Ghost
|15
|6%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|178
|{{p|Tangela}}
|1,228
|Grass
|3
|52%
|16%
|- style="background:#fff"
|179
|{{p|Pupitar}}
|5,913
|Rock
|14
|33%
|5%
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | 180
| style="background:#fff" | {{me|Aerodactyl}}
| style="background:#fff" | 15,840
| style="background:#fff" | Rock
| style="background:#fff" | 25
| style="background:#fff" | N/A
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | N/A
|}

====Pedra Valley====
Unlike earlier areas, the stages in this area appear one at a time instead of in groups of five.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Stage
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" width="120px" | Pokémon
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Hit Points
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" width="55px" | Type
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Moves
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Base capture %
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Move bonus
|- style="background:#fff"
|181
|{{p|Sneasel}}
|7,372
|Dark
|16
|77%
|2%
|- style="background:#fff"
|182
|{{p|Duosion}}
|6,627
|Psychic
|10
|12%
|6%
|- style="background:#fff"
|183
|{{p|Snorlax}}
|31,955
|Normal
|55
|2%
|2%
|- style="background:#fff"
|184
|{{p|Granbull}}
|10,672
|Fairy
|17
|66%
|2%
|- style="background:#fff"
|185
|{{p|Frogadier}}
|2,576
|Water
|7
|11%
|6%
|- style="background:#fff"
|186
|{{p|Gurdurr}}
|16,544
|Fighting
|22
|32%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|187
|{{p|Quilladin}}
|4,636
|Grass
|8
|2%
|13%
|- style="background:#fff"
|188
|{{p|Shelgon}}
|15,238
|Dragon
|18
|7%
|3%
|- style="background:#fff"
|189
|{{p|Braixen}}
|4,108
|Fire
|7
|17%
|12%

|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" |190
| style="background:#fff" |{{p|Steelix}}
| style="background:#fff" |9,484
| style="background:#fff" |Steel
| style="background:#fff" | 26
| style="background:#fff" | 22%
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" |3%
|}

===Expert stages===
Expert stages are unlocked based on the number of main stages the player has achieved S-rank on. The player cannot access any expert stages until they complete Stage 12. All expert stages are timed stages rather than move-limited; times are expressed in minutes and seconds.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Stage
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Pokémon
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Hit points
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Type
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | S-ranks to unlock
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Time limit
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Base capture %
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Bonus per 3 seconds
|- style="background:#fff"
|EX1
|{{p|Absol}}
|3,420
|Dark
|12
|01:00
|1%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|EX2
|{{p|Rotom}}
|3,456
|Electric
|12
|01:00
|1%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|EX3
|{{p|Lucario}}
|10,935
|Fighting
|12
|02:00
|1%
|3%
|- style="background:#fff"
|EX4
|{{p|Articuno}}
|11,340
|Ice
|20
|02:00
|1%
|3%
|- style="background:#fff"
|EX5
|{{p|Zapdos}}
|2,700
|Electric
|25
|00:30
|1%
|10%
|- style="background:#fff"
|EX6
|{{p|Moltres}}
|6,300
|Fire
|30
|01:00
|1%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|EX7
|{{p|Venusaur}}
|5,630
|Grass
|35
|01:00
|1%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|EX8
|{{p|Blastoise}}
|8,446
|Water
|40
|01:30
|1%
|4%
|- style="background:#fff"
|EX9
|{{p|Charizard}}
|5,342
|Fire
|45
|01:00
|1%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|EX10
|{{p|Dragonite}}
|12,020
|Dragon
|50
|02:00
|1%
|3%
|- style="background:#fff"
|EX11
|{{p|Sceptile}}
|5,918
|Grass
|55
|01:00
|1%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|EX12
|{{p|Blaziken}}
|4,223
|Fire
|60
|00:30
|1%
|10%
|- style="background:#fff"
|EX13
|{{p|Swampert}}
|5,918
|Water
|65
|01:00
|1%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|EX14
|{{p|Entei}}
|1,709
|Fire
|75
|00:15
|1%
|20%
|- style="background:#fff"
|EX15
|{{p|Suicune}}
|1,871
|Water
|80
|00:15
|1%
|20%
|- style="background:#fff"
|EX16
|{{p|Raikou}}
|1,482
|Electric
|85
|00:15
|1%
|20%
|- style="background:#fff"
|EX17
|{{p|Heatran}}
|15,423
|Fire
|95
|02:00
|1%
|3%
|- style="background:#fff"
|EX18
|{{p|Xerneas}}
|10,125
|Fairy
|100
|01:00
|1%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|EX19
|{{p|Yveltal}}
|10,328
|Dark
|110
|01:00
|1%
|5%
|- style="background:#fff"
|EX20
|{{p|Mewtwo}}
|25,596
|Psychic
|150
|02:00
|1%
|3%
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" |EX21
| style="background:#fff" |{{p|Genesect}}
| style="background:#fff" |
| style="background:#fff" |Bug
| style="background:#fff" |180
| style="background:#fff" |01:30
| style="background:#fff" |1%
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" |5%
|}

===Special stages===
Special stages are downloaded during the check in process, and can only be played during the event period. All special stages use "SP" as their stage number.

====Legendary and Mythical Pokémon Events====
=====Launch Special: Meet Mew=====
At the game's release, the list of Pokémon included 158 Pokémon (both genders of Meowstic and all forms of Rotom share the same Pokédex number). Immediately upon launch, special stages were available for those who completed the first 11 stages of the game. This Mew stage was the first such stage, extending the list to 159 entries.

The original event ran from February 18 to March 8, 2015 and gave 1000 Coins upon defeat, once per day. The event was extended as "Mew Strikes Again" and limited the 1,000 Coin bonus to the first completion only. The second release retained the original stage name.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Hit points
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Type
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Move limit
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Base capture %
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Move bonus
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Availability
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" |{{p|Mew}}
| style="background:#fff" |4,896
| style="background:#fff" |Psychic
| style="background:#fff" |20
| style="background:#fff" |10%
| style="background:#fff" |4%
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" |February 18 to March 22, 2015
|}

=====Great Challenge=====
"Great Challenge" is the stage name of numerous [[Legendary Pokémon|Legendary and Mythical Pokémon]] event stages. In all such stages, there are different rewards given for the initial stage completion regardless of capture, with varying catch rates and move limits. In all cases, the stage can be played as often as the player wishes provided the player has Hearts available in play. There is no additional bonus granted upon successive completions of the same stage.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Event
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Pokémon
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Hit points
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Type
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Move limit
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Base capture %
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Move bonus
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Initial Reward
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Availability
|- style="background:#fff"
|Kyogre Makes a Splash
|{{p|Kyogre}}
|9,214
|Water
|30
|5%
|3%
|1 Jewel
|March 9 to 22, 2015
|- style="background:#fff"
|Keldeo Rears Its Head
|{{p|Keldeo}} (Ordinary Form)
|13,051
|Water
|20
|15%
|4%
|5,000 Coins
|March 23 to April 5, 2015
|- style="background:#fff"
|Rayquaza's Ascension
|{{p|Rayquaza}}
|
|Dragon
|30
|7%
|2%
|1 Jewel
|March 30 to April 19, 2015
|- style="background:#fff"
|Groudon Lands at Last
|{{p|Groudon}}
|7,011
|Ground
|20
|10%
|4%
|3,000 Coins
|April 13 to 26, 2015
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" |Regirock Rocks the Scene
| style="background:#fff" |{{p|Regirock}}
| style="background:#fff" |22,572
| style="background:#fff" |Rock
| style="background:#fff" |30
| style="background:#fff" |3%
| style="background:#fff" |2%
| style="background:#fff" |1,000 Coins
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" |May 11 to 25, 2015
|}

=====3.5 Million Celebration=====
To celebrate 3.5 million downloads, Celebi was made available from April 27 to May 18, 2015. Players receive 1,000 Coins upon their first successful completion of the stage; there are no bonus rewards for further completion.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Hit points
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Type
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Move limit
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Base capture %
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Move bonus
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Availability
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" |{{p|Celebi}}
| style="background:#fff" |9,616
| style="background:#fff" |Psychic
| style="background:#fff" |20
| style="background:#fff" |10%
| style="background:#fff" |3%
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" |April 27 to May 18, 2015
|}

=====4 Million Celebration=====
To celebrate 4 million downloads, Shaymin was made available from May 25 to June 15, 2015. Players receive 1,000 Coins upon their first successful completion of the stage. While there were no bonus rewards for further completion on the same day, prior to v1.2.1, beating it the first time on subsequent days rewarded the player with another 1000 coins. The wording of the notice attached to the stage and the fact that it was changed in v1.2.1 suggests that this was a bug.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Hit points
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Type
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Move limit
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Base capture %
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Move bonus
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Availability
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" |{{p|Shaymin}}
| style="background:#fff" |12,237
| style="background:#fff" |Grass
| style="background:#fff" |22
| style="background:#fff" |20%
| style="background:#fff" |3%
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" |May 25 to June 15, 2015
|}

=====Exp. Points from Victini! - Tons of Exp. Points=====
On May 30, 2015, a new regular event stage featuring {{p|Victini}} became available. The 7-move stage provides an opportunity for the player to catch the Mythical Pokémon, but also operates in the same mechanic as "Meowth's Coin Mania" and "One chance a day!" in that the stage disappears after being played at any time during the 24-hour period of its availability. Players can obtain a massive experience boost from playing of this stage.

The stage is available every Saturday for 24 hours (Saturday 0600 to Sunday 0600 UTC time).


=====Escalation Battle=====
An upcoming stage will be titled Escalation Battle. This stage has an associated "stage level", the function of which has not yet been explained. Giratina is featured as the stage's Pokémon, and it has an HP bar indicating that it can be caught.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Hit points
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Type
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Move limit
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Base capture %
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Move bonus
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Availability
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" |{{p|Giratina}}
| style="background:#fff" |
| style="background:#fff" |Ghost
| style="background:#fff" |15
| style="background:#fff" |
| style="background:#fff" |
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" |Not yet announced.
|}

====Regular Events====
The following events are either regular events that take place on a weekly basis or have otherwise seen several releases.

=====Meowth's Coin Mania=====
A special stage called "Meowth's Coin Mania" can be played once per 24 hour period for which it becomes available. This Meowth cannot be caught. While a ranking for the stage is displayed upon completion, it was not displayed again afterwards. The initial period of availability was from February 21, 2015 to May 24, 2015 on both Saturday and Sunday each week; starting May 31, the stage will only be available once during the day every Sunday, with a new stage available on Saturdays.

Large numbers of coins appear in the stage at the beginning, while others fall into the stage from above during gameplay. If the player clears a combination (several groups in one move), this triggers Meowth's "disruption" whereby more coins replace tiles currently in the stage; this in turn can trigger an immediate coin match and possibly another combo, meaning multiple "disruptions" can occur without the player using any moves.

The stage disappears upon completion until it can be played again.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Type
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Move limit
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Availability
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" |{{p|Meowth}}
| style="background:#fff" |Normal
| style="background:#fff" |10
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" |Available until May 24, 2015 on Saturdays and Sundays, and only on Sundays since May 31, 2015
|}

=====The Daily Pokémon=====
The Daily Pokémon is an event that takes place during the week (Monday to Friday). Each promotion offers a different set of Pokémon that can be caught every day during the length of the promotion. The stages are not available on Saturday and Sunday, during which another event is possibly run.

Thus far, there have been three Daily Pokémon events.

======The Daily Pokémon (#1)======
The Daily Pokémon (#1) was available for download from February 18 to March 20, 2015 and from May 4 to May 16, 2015. This promotion featured all of the variants of Rotom, each with its own daily stage. All variations of Rotom in this event had the same initial catch rate and move bonus, and all stages gave a limit of 15 moves. On Saturday and Sunday, "Meowth's Coin Mania", a different promotional stage, could be played.

With the May 4 re-release, the first clear of each stage rewards 200 Coins instead of the usual 30 Coins.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Hit points
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Type
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Move limit
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Base capture %
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Move bonus
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Availability
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{p|Rotom}} (Frost Rotom)
|2,063
|Ice
|15
|5%
|6%
|Playable on Monday only.
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{p|Rotom}} (Heat Rotom)
|2,321
|Fire
|15
|5%
|6%
|Playable on Tuesday only.
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{p|Rotom}} (Wash Rotom)
|2,599
|Water
|15
|5%
|6%
|Playable on Wednesday only.
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{p|Rotom}} (Mow Rotom)
|2,599
|Grass
|15
|5%
|6%
|Playable on Thursday only.
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" |{{p|Rotom}} (Fan Rotom)
| style="background:#fff" |2,156
| style="background:#fff" |Flying
| style="background:#fff" |15
| style="background:#fff" |5%
| style="background:#fff" |6%
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" |Playable on Friday only.
|}

======The Daily Pokémon (#2)======
The Daily Pokémon (#2) is available for download from March 23 to April 17, 2015. The event consists of five stages with a different stage playable every day of the week from Monday to Friday. The catch rate and the stage varies with each Pokémon available. On Saturday and Sunday, "Meowth's Coin Mania", a different promotional stage, could be played.

The Tropius stage includes Coins in the layout of the stage. If matched, the player can acquire a Coin bonus.
{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Hit points
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Type
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Move limit
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Base capture %
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Move bonus
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Availability
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{p|Pachirisu}}
|1,339
|Electric
|7
|15%
|12%
|Playable on Monday only.
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{p|Sigilyph}}
|1,654
|Psychic
|15
|8%
|4%
|Playable on Tuesday only.
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{p|Tropius}}
|2,363
|Grass
|20
|7%
|6%
|Playable on Wednesday only.
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{p|Farfetch'd}}
|3,930
|Flying
|10
|3%
|9%
|Playable on Thursday only.
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{p|Druddigon}}
| style="background:#fff" |3,723
| style="background:#fff" |Dragon
| style="background:#fff" |20
| style="background:#fff" |9%
| style="background:#fff" |4%
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" |Playable on Friday only.
|}

======The Daily Pokémon (#3)======
The Daily Pokémon (#3) is available for download from May 18 to June 6, 2015 with a different Pokémon available each day. Shuckle is a three Pokémon stage, while the others are normal stages.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Hit points
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Type
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Move limit
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Base capture %
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Move bonus
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Availability
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{p|Girafarig}}
|2,654
|Psychic
|7
|8%
|4%
|Playable on Monday only.
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{p|Kecleon}}
|3,675
|Normal
|20
|7%
|2%
|Playable on Tuesday only.
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{p|Shuckle}}
|5,899
|Bug
|5
|10%
|3%
|Playable on Wednesday only.
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{p|Relicanth}}
|4,752
|Rock
|15
|8%
|3%
|Playable on Thursday only.
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{p|Spiritomb}}
| style="background:#fff" |3,100
| style="background:#fff" |Ghost
| style="background:#fff" |17
| style="background:#fff" |5%
| style="background:#fff" |3%
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" |Playable on Friday only.
|}

=====Competitive Stage=====
Three competitive stages have so far been featured in the game. The player battles a Trainer who uses a Mega-Evolved Pokémon, and has one minute to obtain as high a score as they can (the Pokémon has no HP bar and so cannot faint). The player must connect to the Internet to play in this type of stage. No experience is awarded upon stage completion.

When time expires, the player's score is uploaded to a leaderboard. From the Ranking menu, players can view the information of the five players currently on top of the leaderboard in their region, as well as their own high score, placement, and current Pokémon. A "CLEAR" indication and an "S" letter ranking are displayed upon conclusion of the stage like in all other stages, but the S ranking is not displayed again afterwards; this happens even if the player makes no moves for a score of 0.

When the challenge ends, prizes are given out to the top-ranking players in each region, with a fixed number of Mega Stone prizes given out for each region. All players who participate but who do not win the Mega Stone instead receive a Jewel. The Mega Lucario event advertised that all participants would get a Jewel including winners; however, only players who did not receive the Lucarionite received the Jewel initially (like future events), although a patch released shortly after gave Lucarionite winners a Jewel as well.

Only two items—Complexity -1 and Disruption Delay—are available for purchase before playing this type of stage.

On May 18, 2015, Mega Lucario's competition became available once again. As before, all who place in the contest receive a Lucarionite, but anyone placing who already owns one will receive a two Jewel bonus. The move limit was re-introduced for this event with a 20 move limit. The Mega Start item is also available for this event in addition to Complexity-1 and Disruption Delay.

In the update to v1.2.0, updates were made to detect cheating in contest stage submissions in light of stores submitted during the Mega Banette competition.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! rowspan=2 style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon
! rowspan=2 style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Type
! rowspan=2 style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Time limit
! rowspan=2 style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Prize
! colspan=3 style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Winning threshold
! rowspan=2 style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Availability
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | North America
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | PAL region
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Japan
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{me|Lucario}}
|Fighting
|1:00
|Lucarionite
|20,000
|20,000
|50,000
|March 15 to 22, 2015
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{me|Blastoise}}
|Water
|1:00
|Blastoisinite
|20,000
|10,000
|50,000
|April 6 to 12, 2015
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{me|Banette}}
|Ghost
|1:00
|Banettite
|20,000
|10,000
|50,000
|April 30 to May 6, 2015
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{me|Lucario}}
|Fighting
|20 moves
|Lucarionite
|30,000
|15,000
|65,000
|May 18 to May 25, 2015
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" |{{me|Venusaur}}
| style="background:#fff" |Grass
| style="background:#fff" |1:00
| style="background:#fff" |Venusaurite
| style="background:#fff" |
| style="background:#fff" |10,000
| style="background:#fff" |
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" |May 29 to June 8, 2015
|}

====One-Time Events====
The following events are one-off events that have yet to be repeated.

=====Pokémon Safari=====
The Pokémon Safari is a special 3-Pokémon stage that has the player randomly battle one of 5 different opponents when they attempt it, not telling the player which Pokémon they will battle until it appears. Due to the type of the opponent being unknown before starting the stage, the Optimize button does not appear. The stage is available from April 20 to May 2, 2015.

Complexity -1 is not available on these stages.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Hit points
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Type
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Move limit
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Base capture %
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Move bonus
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{p|Carvanha}}
|3,710
|Dark
|4
|5%
|11%
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{p|Sharpedo}}
|12,928
|Dark
|20
|7%
|2%
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{p|Spinda}}
|5,899
|Normal
|12
|3%
|3%
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{p|Cherubi}}
|1,675
|Grass
|5
|11%
|7%
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" |{{p|Cherrim}}
| style="background:#fff" |8,549
| style="background:#fff" |Grass
| style="background:#fff" |10
| style="background:#fff" |5%
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" |4%
|}

=====One chance a day!=====
On May 7, 2015, a special stage featuring {{p|Pinsir}} became available from the earlier 1.1.11 update. This stage, released as the "Seize Hold of Pinsir" event, was unique in that it could only be played once a day over a four day period, thereby limiting the player to only four opportunities to catch it over the duration of the event.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Hit points
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Type
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Move limit
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Base capture %
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Move bonus
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" |{{p|Pinsir}}
| style="background:#fff" |6,788
| style="background:#fff" |Bug
| style="background:#fff" |16
| style="background:#fff" |3%
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" |2%
|}

==List of Skills==

As of Version 1.2.0, the unused Skills "Fearless" and "Disrupt Buster" no longer appear in the search dropdown menu when searching for Skills (but they are still in the game data).

{| class="roundy sortable" style="margin: auto; background: #{{cute color}}; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
|-
! style="background-color:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Name
! style="background-color:#{{beauty color light}}" | Japanese name
! style="background-color:#{{beauty color light}}" | Translation
! style="background-color:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Effect
|- style="background:#fff"
| Astonish
| おどろかす
| Astonish
| Can delay your opponent's disruptions for a turn.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Barrier Bash
| バリアけし
| Barrier Cancellation
| Removes one barrier-type disruption without fail.
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{tt|Block Smash|Was known as <nowiki>"Block Bash"</nowiki> until Version 1.2.0.}}
| ブロックくずし
| Block Demolish
| Clears one unbreakable-block disruption without fail.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Brute Force
| ちからおし
| Brute Force
| Increases damage for attacks that are not very effective.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Burn
| やけどさせる
| Burn
| {{tt|Leaves the foe burned.|Damage dealt by Fire-type Pokémon is boosted by 50% while the foe is burned. Wears off after a few moves.}}
|- style="background:#fff"
| Chill
| さむけ
| Chill
| Can delay your opponent's disruptions for a turn.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Cloud Clear
| くもばらい
| Cloud Sweep
| Clears away one black-cloud disruption without fail.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Counterattack
| はんげき
| Counterattack
| The more disruptions on the board, the greater the damage.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Crowd Control
| むれをなす
| Form Groups
| {{tt|The more <Pokémon> in the puzzle area, the more damage.|Only activates for four or five icon matches.}}
|- style="background:#fff"
| Damage Streak
| ノンストップ
| Non-Stop
| Does more damage the more times in a row it is triggered.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Dancing Dragons
| ドラゴンコンボ
| Dragon Combo
| Increases damage done by any Dragon types in a combo.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Disrupt Buster
| オジャマブレイク
| Nuisance Break
| Occasionally erases all of the foe's disruptions.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Dragon Talon
| ドラゴンのつめ
| Dragon Talon
| Attacks sometimes deal greater damage than usual.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Eject
| ふりはらう
| Shake Off
| Removes one non-Support Pokémon icon without fail.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Fearless
| こわいものしらず
| Unaffected by Scary Things
| Combos do more damage if the opponent is Ghost type.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Flap
| はばたく
| Flap
| Occasionally delays a {{t|Ground|Ground-type}} opponent's disruptions.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Freeze
| こおらせる
| Freeze
| {{tt|Leaves the foe frozen.|Damage dealt by Ice-type Pokémon is boosted  while the foe is frozen. The foe cannot use any disruptions while frozen (although disruptions are not delayed). Wears off after a few moves.}}
|- style="background:#fff"
| Heavy Hitter
| パワーパンチ
| Power Punch
| Attacks sometimes deal greater damage than usual.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Hitting Streak
| れんげき
| Cheap Attack
| Does more damage the more times in a row it is triggered.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Last-Ditch Effort
| さいごのちから
| Last Stand
| Attacks do more damage when things are looking desperate.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Mega Boost
| メガパワー
| Mega Power
| Fills the Mega Gauge of a Pokémon of the same type.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Mind Zap
| わすれさせる
| Make Forget
| {{tt|Can delay your opponent's disruptions for a turn.|Instead of stated effect, resets the foe's disruption countdown to its maximum value.}}
|- style="background:#fff"
| Opportunist
| きゅうしょをつく
| Attack Vital Point
| Attacks can occasionally deal greater damage than usual.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Paralyze
| まひさせる
| Paralyze
| {{tt|Leaves the foe paralyzed.|The foe cannot use any disrupions while paralyzed. Wears off afer a few moves.}}
|- style="background:#fff"
| Pixie Power
| フェアリーパワー
| Fairy Power
| Increases damage done by any {{t|Fairy}} types in a combo.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Power of 4
| 4つのちから
| Power of 4
| Attacks do more damage when you make a match of four.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Power of 5
| 5つのちから
| Power of 5
| Attacks do more damage when you make a match of five.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Prank
| いたずら
| Prank
| Occasionally changes when a foe will next disrupt your play.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Pummel
| そうこうげき
| General Offense
| Increases damage done by any {{t|Fighting}} types in a combo.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Pyre
| おくりび
| Ceremonial Bonfire
| Increases damage done by any {{t|Fire}} types in a combo.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Quake
| ゆさぶる
| Shake
| Sometimes increases damage and leaves opponent paralyzed.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Quirky
| きまぐれ
| Quirky
| Occasionally erases one extra matching Pokémon elsewhere.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Quirky+
| きまぐれ+
| Quirky+
| Occasionally erases two extra matching Pokémon elsewhere.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Risk-Taker
| アップダウン
| Up Down
| Damage may randomly be increased or decreased.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Rock Break
| いわをけす
| Rock Erase
| Destroys one breakable-rock disruption without fail.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Sinister Power
| ダークパワー
| Dark Power
| Increases damage done by any {{t|Dark}} types in a combo.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Sleep Charm
| ねむらせる
| Make Sleep
| {{tt|Leaves the foe asleep.|The foe cannot use any disruptions and takes more damage while asleep. Wears off after a few moves.}}
|- style="background:#fff"
| Spookify
| こわがらせる
| Frighten
| {{tt|Leaves the foe spooked.|The foe takes 50% more damage from Ghost-type Pokémon while spooked. Wears off after a few moves.}}
|- style="background:#fff"
| Stabilize
| オジャマけし
| Nuisance Cancellation
| Occasionally erases one of the foe's disruptions on the board.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Stabilize+
| オジャマけし+
| Nuisance Cancellation+
| Occasionally erases two of the foe's disruptions on the board.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Steely Resolve
| はがねのこころ
| Steel Heart
| Attacks do more damage when things are looking desperate.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Swap
| いれかえ
| Substitution
| Can replace a disruption with one of your Pokémon.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Swarm
| むしのしらせ
| Bug Notification
| Attacks do more damage when things are looking desperate.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Swat
| たたきおとす
| Knock Down
| Does more damage against {{t|Flying}}, {{t|Bug}}, or {{t|Fairy}} types.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Vitality Drain
| パワードレイン
| Power Drain
| Does more damage when the opponent has more HP left.
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#{{cute color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" |
|}

===Mega Evolutions===
Disruptions can be erased if they are in a tile targeted by the effect. Each Pokémon or disruption erased boosts the amount of damage dealt to the opponent, but empty tiles do not count. The Pokémon that make the match that triggers the Mega Effects are also erased before they can combo, but do not boost the amount of damage done beyond a non-Mega match. A Mega-Match and its resulting effect can take priority over other matches; to prevent this, the non-Mega match must trigger first by moving the icon to complete that match so the Mega match does not disrupt it.
{| class="roundy sortable" style="margin: auto; background: #{{cute color}}; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
|-
! style="background-color:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon
! style="background-color:#{{beauty color light}}" | Type
! style="background-color:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Effect
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{me|Audino}}
| {{t|Normal}}
| Erases all Pokémon within one space of the match.
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{me|Kangaskhan}}
| {{t|Normal}}
| Erases all Pokémon in the five columns to the left and right.
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{me|Sableye}}
| {{t|Dark}}
| Erases all Pokémon in an O-shaped pattern.
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{me|Slowbro}}
| {{t|Psychic}}
| {{tt|Adds one more Mega Slowbro above the match.|Actually converts the tiles directly above all other Mega Slowbro into a Mega Slowbro. This effect can replace any disruption in the tile above and counts as erasing the content of the tile for damage, but does not affect black-cloud disruptions.}}
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{me|Lopunny}}
| {{t|Normal}}
| Erases all Pokemon five rows above and five rows below.
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{me|Altaria}}
| {{t|Dragon}}
| Erases all Pokemon within two spaces of the match.
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{me|Mawile}}
| {{t|Steel}}
| Erases diagonal Pokemon from upper-right to lower-left corner.
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{me|Ampharos}}
| {{t|Electric}}
| A random lightning strike erases a jagged line of Pokémon.
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{me|Glalie}}
| {{t|Ice}}
| Erases all Pokémon in a V-shaped pattern.
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{me|Gengar}}
| {{t|Ghost}}
|Erases all Mega Gengar in the puzzle area.
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{me|Mewtwo}} Y
| {{t|Psychic}}
| Clears a Pokémon with the same type as Mega Mewtwo Y (max 10).
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{me|Aerodactyl}}
| {{t|Rock}}
|Erases rocks and blocks (max 10), and also does damage to the foe.
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{me|Lucario}}
| {{t|Fighting}}
| Erases all Pokemon five rows above and five rows below.
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{me|Blastoise}}
| {{t|Water}}
| Erases all Pokemon within two spaces of the match.
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{me|Banette}}
| {{t|Ghost}}
| Clears a Pokémon with the same type as Mega Banette (max 10).
|- style="background:#fff"
|{{me|Venusaur}}
| {{t|Grass}}
|Unknown

|-
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{cute color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" |
|}

==Items==
{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{cute color}}; border:3px solid #{{cute color light}}"
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Item
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Cost
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}" | Description
! style="background:#{{beauty color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Availability
|- style="background:#fff"
|Moves +5
|800 Coins
|{{tt|Increases the moves left by 5 moves, but does not affect ability to catch Pokémon.|Does not affect the clear bonus, but does affect the player's ranking positively.}}
|Only available in stages with a move limit.
|- style="background:#fff"
|Time +10
|800 Coins
|{{tt|Increases the time left by 10 seconds, but does not affect ability to catch Pokémon.|Does not affect the clear bonus, but does affect the player's ranking positively.}}
|Only available in stages with a time limit. Not available in "Competitive Stage".
|- style="background:#fff"
|Exp. Points x1.5
|300 Coins
|Increases the Exp. Points earned at the end of a stage by 50%.
|Unavailable in special stages that do not award experence.
|- style="background:#fff"
|Mega Start
|2000 Coins
|Your Pokémon in the first slot Mega Evolves as a stage begins.
|Only available if the player brings a Pokémon with its Mega Stone in the first slot. Not available in "Competitive Stage".
|- style="background:#fff"
|Complexity -1
|9000 Coins
|{{tt|One less kind of Pokémon, rock, or block will appear.|Before May 25, 2015, the explanation read <nowiki>"One less kind of Pokémon will appear in the Puzzle Area."</nowiki>}}
|Not available in some circumstances.
|- style="background:#fff"
|Disruption Delay
|1500 Coins
|Delays your opponent's disruptions.
|Only available if the opponent can cause disruptions.
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | Attack Power ↑
| style="background:#fff" | 3000 Coins
| style="background:#fff" | Attack power gets doubled.
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | Exclusively available in some special stages.
|}

==See also==
*[[List of Pokémon by Pokémon Shuffle list number]]

==External links==
* [https://miiverse.nintendo.net/titles/14866558073577442972/14866558073577442985 Pokémon Shuffle Miiverse community]

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List of moves in other languages

2015-04-25T21:29:06Z

Shepeedy: /* List of moves in other languages */

The following is a '''list of [[move]]s in other languages'''.

==List of moves in other languages==
{{Langlist/h|move}}
{{Langlist|move|1|Pound|はたく|Hataku|Écras'Face|Pfund|Botta|Destructor|막치기|Makchigi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|2|Karate Chop|からてチョップ|Karate Chop|Poing-Karaté|Karateschlag|Colpokarate|Golpe Karate|태권당수|Taegweon Dangsu|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|3|Double Slap|おうふくビンタ|Ōfuku Binta|Torgnoles|Duplexhieb|Doppiasberla|Doble Bofetón|연속뺨치기|Yeonsok Ppyamchigi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|4|Comet Punch|れんぞくパンチ|Renzoku Punch|Poing Comète|Kometenhieb|Cometapugno|Puño Cometa|연속펀치|Yeonsok Punch|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|5|Mega Punch|メガトンパンチ|Megaton Punch|Ultimapoing|Megahieb|Megapugno|Megapuño|메가톤펀치|Megaton Punch|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|6|Pay Day|ネコにこばん|Neko ni Koban|Jackpot|Zahltag|Giornopaga|Día de Pago|고양이돈받기|Goyang'i Donbatgi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|7|Fire Punch|ほのおのパンチ|Honō no Punch|Poing de Feu|Feuerschlag|Fuocopugno|Puño Fuego|불꽃펀치|Bulkkot Punch|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|8|Ice Punch|れいとうパンチ|Reitō Punch|Poing-Glace|Eishieb|Gelopugno|Puño Hielo|냉동펀치|Naengdong Punch|color=Ice}}
{{Langlist|move|9|Thunder Punch|かみなりパンチ|Kaminari Punch|Poing-Éclair|Donnerschlag|Tuonopugno|Puño Trueno|번개펀치|Beongae Punch|color=Electric}}
{{Langlist|move|10|Scratch|ひっかく|Hikkaku|Griffe|Kratzer|Graffio|Arañazo|할퀴기|Halkwigi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|11|Vice Grip|はさむ|Hasamu|Force Poigne|Klammer|Presa|Agarre|찝기|Jjipgi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|12|Guillotine|ハサミギロチン|Hasami Guillotine|Guillotine|Guillotine|Ghigliottina|Guillotina|가위자르기|Gawi Jareugi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|13|Razor Wind|かまいたち|Kamaitachi|Coupe-Vent|Klingensturm|Ventagliente|Viento Cortante|칼바람|Kalbaram|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|14|Swords Dance|つるぎのまい|Tsurugi no Mai|Danse-Lames|Schwerttanz|Danzaspada|Danza Espada|칼춤|Kalchum|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|15|Cut|いあいぎり|Iaigiri|Coupe|Zerschneider|Taglio|Corte|풀베기|Pul Begi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|16|Gust|かぜおこし|Kaze Okoshi|Tornade|Windstoß|Raffica|Tornado|바람일으키기|Baram Il'eukigi|color=Flying}}
{{Langlist|move|17|Wing Attack|つばさでうつ|Tsubasa de Utsu|Cru-Aile|Flügelschlag|Attacco d'Ala|Ataque Ala|날개치기|Nalgae Chigi|color=Flying}}
{{Langlist|move|18|Whirlwind|ふきとばし|Fukitobashi|Cyclone|Wirbelwind|Turbine|Remolino|날려버리기|Nallyeobeorigi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|19|Fly|そらをとぶ|Sora wo Tobu|Vol|Fliegen|Volo|Vuelo|공중날기|Gongjung Nalgi|color=Flying}}
{{Langlist|move|20|Bind|しめつける|Shimetsukeru|Étreinte|Klammergriff|Legatutto|Atadura|조이기|Joigi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|21|Slam|たたきつける|Tatakitsukeru|Souplesse|Slam|Schianto|Atizar|힘껏치기|Himkkeotchigi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|22|Vine Whip|つるのムチ|Tsuru no Muchi|Fouet Lianes|Rankenhieb|Frustata|Látigo Cepa|덩굴채찍|Deonggul Chaejjik|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|23|Stomp|ふみつけ|Fumitsuke|Écrasement|Stampfer|Pestone|Pisotón|짓밟기|Jitbalgi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|24|Double Kick|にどげり|Nidogeri|Double Pied|Doppelkick|Doppiocalcio|Doble Patada|두번치기|Dubeonchigi|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|25|Mega Kick|メガトンキック|Megaton Kick|Ultimawashi|Megakick|Megacalcio|Megapatada|메가톤킥|Megaton Kick|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|26|Jump Kick|とびげり|Tobigeri|Pied Sauté|Sprungkick|Calciosalto|Patada Salto|점프킥|Jump Kick|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|27|Rolling Kick|まわしげり|Mawashigeri|Mawashi Geri|Fegekick|Calciorullo|Patada Giro|돌려차기|Dollyeo Chagi|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|28|Sand Attack|すなかけ|Sunakake|Jet de Sable|Sandwirbel|Turbosabbia|Ataque Arena|모래뿌리기|Morae Ppurigi|color=Ground}}
{{Langlist|move|29|Headbutt|ずつき|Zutsuki|Coup d’Boule|Kopfnuss|Bottintesta|Golpe Cabeza|박치기|Bakchigi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|30|Horn Attack|つのでつく|Tsuno de Tsuku|Koud'Korne|Hornattacke|Incornata|Cornada|뿔찌르기|Ppul Jjireugi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|31|Fury Attack|みだれづき|Midare Dzuki|Furie|Furienschlag|Furia|Ataque Furia|마구찌르기|Magu Jjireugi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|32|Horn Drill|つのドリル|Tsuno Drill|Empal'Korne|Hornbohrer|Perforcorno|Perforador|뿔드릴|Ppul Drill|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|33|Tackle|たいあたり|Taiatari|Charge|Tackle|Azione|Placaje|몸통박치기|Momtong Bakchigi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|34|Body Slam|のしかかり|Noshikakari|Plaquage|Bodyslam|Corposcontro|Golpe Cuerpo|누르기|Nureugi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|35|Wrap|まきつく|Makitsuku|Ligotage|Wickel|Avvolgibotta|Constricción|김밥말이|Gimbapmal'i|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|36|Take Down|とっしん|Tosshin|Bélier|Bodycheck|Riduttore|Derribo|돌진|Doljin|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|37|Thrash|あばれる|Abareru|Mania|Fuchtler|Colpo|Golpe|난동부리기|Nandong Burigi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|38|Double-Edge|すてみタックル|Sutemi Tackle|Damoclès|Risikotackle|Sdoppiatore|Doble Filo|이판사판태클|Ipansapan Tackle|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|39|Tail Whip|しっぽをふる|Shippo wo Furu|Mimi-Queue|Rutenschlag|Colpocoda|Látigo|꼬리흔들기|Kkori Heundeulgi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|40|Poison Sting|どくばり|Doku Bari|Dard-Venin|Giftstachel|Velenospina|Picotazo Ven|독침|Dokchim|color=Poison}}
{{Langlist|move|41|Twineedle|ダブルニードル|Double Needle|Double-Dard|Duonadel|Doppio Ago|Doble Ataque|더블니들|Double Needle|color=Bug}}
{{Langlist|move|42|Pin Missile|ミサイルばり|Missile Bari|Dard-Nuée|Nadelrakete|Missilspillo|Pin Misil|바늘미사일|Bineul Missile|color=Bug}}
{{Langlist|move|43|Leer|にらみつける|Niramitsukeru|Groz'Yeux|Silberblick|Fulmisguardo|Malicioso|째려보기|Jjaeryeobogi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|44|Bite|かみつく|Kamitsuku|Morsure|Biss|Morso|Mordisco|물기|Mulgi|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|45|Growl|なきごえ|Nakigoe|Rugissement|Heuler|Ruggito|Gruñido|울음소리|Ul'eum Sori|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|46|Roar|ほえる|Hoeru|Hurlement|Brüller|Boato|Rugido|울부짖기|Ulbujitgi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|47|Sing|うたう|Utau|Berceuse|Gesang|Canto|Canto|노래하기|Norae Hagi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|48|Supersonic|ちょうおんぱ|Chōonpa|Ultrason|Superschall|Supersuono|Supersónico|초음파|Cho-eumpa|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|49|Sonic Boom|ソニックブーム|Sonic Boom|Sonicboom|Ultraschall|Sonicboom|Bomba Sónico|소닉붐|Sonic Boom|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|50|Disable|かなしばり|Kanashibari|Entrave|Aussetzer|Inibitore|Anulación|사슬묶기|Saseul Mukgi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|51|Acid|ようかいえき|Yōkaieki|Acide|Säure|Acido|Ácido|용해액|Yonghae Aek|color=Poison}}
{{Langlist|move|52|Ember|ひのこ|Hinoko|Flammèche|Glut|Braciere|Ascuas|불꽃세례|Bulkkot Serye|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|53|Flamethrower|かえんほうしゃ|Kaenhōsha|Lance-Flammes|Flammenwurf|Lanciafiamme|Lanzallamas|화염방사|Hwayeom Bangsa|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|54|Mist|しろいきり|Shiroi Kiri|Brume|Weißnebel|Nebbia|Neblina|흰안개|Hyin Angae|color=Ice}}
{{Langlist|move|55|Water Gun|みずでっぽう|Mizu Deppō|Pistolet à O|Aquaknarre|Pistolacqua|Pistola Agua|물대포|Mul Daepo|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|56|Hydro Pump|ハイドロポンプ|Hydro Pomp|Hydrocanon|Hydropumpe|Idropompa|Hidrobomba|하이드로펌프|Hydro Pump|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|57|Surf|なみのり|Naminori|Surf|Surfer|Surf|Surf|파도타기|Padotagi|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|58|Ice Beam|れいとうビーム|Reitō Beam|Laser Glace|Eisstrahl|Geloraggio|Rayo Hielo|냉동빔|Naengdong Beam|color=Ice}}
{{Langlist|move|59|Blizzard|ふぶき|Fubuki|Blizzard|Blizzard|Bora|Ventisca|눈보라|Nunbora|color=Ice}}
{{Langlist|move|60|Psybeam|サイケこうせん|Psych Kōsen|Rafale Psy|Psystrahl|Psicoraggio|Psicorrayo|환상빔|Hwansang Beam|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|61|Bubble Beam|バブルこうせん|Bubble Kōsen|Bulles d’O|Blubbstrahl|Bollaraggio|Rayo Barbuja|거품광선|Geopum Gwangseon|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|62|Aurora Beam|オーロラビーム|Aurora Beam|Onde Boréale|Aurorastrahl|Raggiaurora|Rayo Aurora|오로라빔|Aurora Beam|color=Ice}}
{{Langlist|move|63|Hyper Beam|はかいこうせん|Hakai Kōsen|Ultralaser|Hyperstrahl|Iper Raggio|Hiperrayo|파괴광선|Pagoe Gwangseon|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|64|Peck|つつく|Tsutsuku|Picpic|Schnabel|Beccata|Picotazo|쪼기|Jjogi|color=Flying}}
{{Langlist|move|65|Drill Peck|ドリルくちばし|Drill Kuchibashi|Bec Vrille|Bohrschnabel|Perforbecco|Pico Taladro|회전부리|Hoejeon Buri|color=Flying}}
{{Langlist|move|66|Submission|じごくぐるま|Jigoku Guruma|Sacrifice|Überroller|Sottomissione|Sumisión|지옥의바퀴|Jiok-yi Bakwi|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|67|Low Kick|けたぐり|Ketaguri|Balayage|Fußkick|Colpo Basso|Patada Baja|잡치기|Japchigi|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|68|Counter|カウンター|Counter|Riposte|Konter|Contatore|Contraataque|카운터|Counter|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|69|Seismic Toss|ちきゅうなげ|Chikyūnage|Frappe Atlas|Geowurf|Movim. Sismico|Mov. Sísmico|지구던지기|Jigu Deonjigi|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|70|Strength|かいりき|Kairiki|Force|Stärke|Forza|Fuerza|괴력|Goeryeok|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|71|Absorb|すいとる|Suitoru|Vol-Vie|Absorber|Assorbimento|Absorber|흡수|Heubsu|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|72|Mega Drain|メガドレイン|Mega Drain|Méga-Sangsue|Megasauger|Megassorbimento|Megaagotar|메가드레인|Mega Drain|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|73|Leech Seed|やどりぎのたね|Yadorigi no Tane|Vampigraine|Egelsamen|Parassiseme|Drenadoras|씨뿌리기|Ssi Ppurigi|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|74|Growth|せいちょう|Seichō|Croissance|Wachstum|Crescita|Desarrollo|성장|Seongjang|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|75|Razor Leaf|はっぱカッター|Happa Cutter|Tranch'Herbe|Rasierblatt|Foglielama|Hoja Afilada|잎날가르기|Ipnal Gareugi|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|76|Solar Beam|ソーラービーム|Solar Beam|Lance-Soleil|Solarstrahl|Solarraggio|Rayo Solar|솔라빔|Solar Beam|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|77|Poison Powder|どくのこな|Doku no Kona|Poudre Toxik|Giftpuder|Velenpolvere|Polvo Veneno|독가루|Dok Garu|color=Poison}}
{{Langlist|move|78|Stun Spore|しびれごな|Shibire Gona|Para-Spore|Stachelspore|Paralizzante|Paralizador|저리가루|Jeori Garu|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|79|Sleep Powder|ねむりごな|Nemuri Gona|Poudre Dodo|Schlafpuder|Sonnifero|Somnífero|수면가루|Sumyeon Garu|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|80|Petal Dance|はなびらのまい|Hanabira no Mai|Danse-Fleur|Blättertanz|Petalodanza|Danza Pétalo|꽃잎댄스|Kkoch'ip Dance|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|81|String Shot|いとをはく|Ito wo Haku|Sécrétion|Fadenschuss|Millebave|Disparo Demora|실뿜기|Silppumgi|color=Bug}}
{{Langlist|move|82|Dragon Rage|りゅうのいかり|Ryū no Ikari|Draco-Rage|Drachenwut|Ira di Drago|Furia Dragón|용의분노|Yong-yi Bunno|color=Dragon}}
{{Langlist|move|83|Fire Spin|ほのおのうず|Honō no Uzu|Danse Flamme|Feuerwirbel|Turbofuoco|Giro Fuego|회오리불꽃|Hoe-ori Bulkkot|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|84|Thunder Shock|でんきショック|Denki Shock|Éclair|Donnerschock|Tuonoshock|Impactrueno|전기쇼크|Jeongi Shock|color=Electric}}
{{Langlist|move|85|Thunderbolt|１０まんボルト|Jūman Volt|Tonnerre|Donnerblitz|Fulmine|Rayo|１０만볼트|Sipman Volt|color=Electric}}
{{Langlist|move|86|Thunder Wave|でんじは|Denjiha|Cage-Éclair|Donnerwelle|Tuononda|Onda Trueno|전기자석파|Jeongi Jaseokpa|color=Electric}}
{{Langlist|move|87|Thunder|かみなり|Kaminari|Fatal-Foudre|Donner|Tuono|Trueno|번개|Beongae|color=Electric}}
{{Langlist|move|88|Rock Throw|いわおとし|Iwa Otoshi|Jet-Pierres|Steinwurf|Sassata|Lanzarrocas|돌떨구기|Dol Tteolgugi|color=Rock}}
{{Langlist|move|89|Earthquake|じしん|Jishin|Séisme|Erdbeben|Terremoto|Terremoto|지진|Jijin|color=Ground}}
{{Langlist|move|90|Fissure|じわれ|Jiware|Abîme|Geofissur|Abisso|Fisura|땅가르기|Ttang Gareugi|color=Ground}}
{{Langlist|move|91|Dig|あなをほる|Ana wo Horu|Tunnel|Schaufler|Fossa|Excavar|구멍파기|Gumeong Pagi|color=Ground}}
{{Langlist|move|92|Toxic|どくどく|Dokudoku|Toxik|Toxin|Tossina|Tóxico|맹독|Maengdok|color=Poison}}
{{Langlist|move|93|Confusion|ねんりき|Nenriki|Choc Mental|Konfusion|Confusione|Confusión|염동력|Yeomdongryeok|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|94|Psychic|サイコキネシス|Psychokinesis|Psyko|Psychokinese|Psichico|Psíquico|사이코키네시스|Psychokinesis|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|95|Hypnosis|さいみんじゅつ|Saimin Jutsu|Hypnose|Hypnose|Ipnosi|Hipnosis|최면술|Choemyeon Sul|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|96|Meditate|ヨガのポーズ|Yoga no Pose|Yoga|Meditation|Meditazione|Meditación|요가포즈|Yoga Pose|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|97|Agility|こうそくいどう|Kōsoku Idō|Hâte|Agilität|Agilità|Agilidad|고속이동|Gosok Idong|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|98|Quick Attack|でんこうせっか|Denkō Sekka|Vive-Attaque|Ruckzuckhieb|Attacco Rapido|Ataque Rápido|전광석화|Jeongwang Seokhwa|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|99|Rage|いかり|Ikari|Frénésie|Raserei|Ira|Furia|분노|Bunno|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|100|Teleport|テレポート|Teleport|Téléport|Teleport|Teletrasporto|Teletransporte|순간이동|Sungan Idong|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|101|Night Shade|ナイトヘッド|Night Head|Ombre Nocturne|Nachtnebel|Ombra Notturna|Tinieblas|나이트헤드|Night Head|color=Ghost}}
{{Langlist|move|102|Mimic|ものまね|Monomane|Copie|Mimikry|Mimica|Mimético|흉내내기|Hyungnaenaegi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|103|Screech|いやなおと|Iyanaoto|Grincement|Kreideschrei|Stridio|Chirrido|싫은소리|Salh'eun Sori|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|104|Double Team|かげぶんしん|Kage Bunshin|Reflet|Doppelteam|Doppioteam|Doble Equipo|그림자분신|Geurimja Bunsin|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|105|Recover|じこさいせい|Jiko Saisei|Soin|Genesung|Ripresa|Recuperación|ＨＰ회복|HP Hoebok|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|106|Harden|かたくなる|Katakunaru|Armure|Härtner|Rafforzatore|Fortaleza|단단해지기|Dandanhaejigi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|107|Minimize|ちいさくなる|Chīsakunaru|Lilliput|Komprimator|Minimizzato|Reducción|작아지기|Jak'ajigi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|108|Smokescreen|えんまく|Enmaku|Brouillard|Rauchwolke|Muro di Fumo|Pantallahumo|연막|Yeonmak|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|109|Confuse Ray|あやしいひかり|Ayashī Hikari|Onde Folie|Konfustrahl|Stordiraggio|Rayo Confuso|이상한빛|Isanghan Bit|color=Ghost}}
{{Langlist|move|110|Withdraw|からにこもる|Kara ni Komoru|Repli|Panzerschutz|Ritirata|Refugio|껍질에숨기|Kkeopjil-e Sumgi|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|111|Defense Curl|まるくなる|Marukunaru|Boul'Armure|Einigler|Ricciolscudo|Rizo Defensa|웅크리기|Ungkeurigi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|112|Barrier|バリアー|Barrier|Bouclier|Barriere|Barriera|Barrera|배리어|Barrier|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|113|Light Screen|ひかりのかべ|Hikari no Kabe|Mur Lumière|Lichtschild|Schermoluce|Pantalla Luz|빛의장막|Bit-yi Jangmak|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|114|Haze|くろいきり|Kuroi Kiri|Buée Noire|Dunkelnebel|Nube|Niebla|흑안개|Heuk Angae|color=Ice}}
{{Langlist|move|115|Reflect|リフレクター|Reflector|Protection|Reflektor|Riflesso|Reflejo|리플렉터|Reflector|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|116|Focus Energy|きあいだめ|Kiai Dame|Puissance|Energiefokus|Focalenergia|Foco Energía|기충전|Gichungjeon|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|117|Bide|がまん|Gaman|Patience|Geduld|Pazienza|Venganza|참기|Chamgi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|118|Metronome|ゆびをふる|Yubi wo Furu|Métronome|Metronom|Metronomo|Metrónomo|손가락흔들기|Songarak Heundeulgi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|119|Mirror Move|オウムがえし|Ōmu Gaeshi|Mimique|Spiegeltrick|Speculmossa|Mov. Espejo|따라하기|Ttarahagi|color=Flying}}
{{Langlist|move|120|Self-Destruct|じばく|Jibaku|Destruction|Finale|Autodistruzione|Autodestrucción|자폭|Japok|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|121|Egg Bomb|タマゴばくだん|Tamago Bakudan|Bomb'Œuf|Eierbombe|Uovobomba|Bomba Huevo|알폭탄|Al Poktan|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|122|Lick|したでなめる|Shita de Nameru|Léchouille|Schlecker|Leccata|Lengüetazo|핥기|Hatgi|color=Ghost}}
{{Langlist|move|123|Smog|スモッグ|Smog|Purédpois|Smog|Smog|Polución|스모그|Smog|color=Poison}}
{{Langlist|move|124|Sludge|ヘドロこうげき|Hedoro Kōgeki|Détritus|Schlammbad|Fango|Residuos|오물공격|Omul Gonggyeok|color=Poison}}
{{Langlist|move|125|Bone Club|ホネこんぼう|Hone Konbō|Massd'Os|Knochenkeule|Ossoclava|Hueso Palo|뼈다귀치기|Ppyeo Dagwichigi|color=Ground}}
{{Langlist|move|126|Fire Blast|だいもんじ|Dai Monji|Déflagration|Feuersturm|Fuocobomba|Llamarada|불대문자|Bul Daemunja|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|127|Waterfall|たきのぼり|Taki Nobori|Cascade|Kaskade|Cascata|Cascada|폭포오르기|Pokpo Oreugi|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|128|Clamp|からではさむ|Kara de Hasamu|Claquoir|Schnapper|Tenaglia|Tenaza|껍질끼우기|Kkeopjil Kkiugi|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|129|Swift|スピードスター|Speed Star|Météores|Sternschauer|Comete|Rapidez|스피드스타|Speed Star|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|130|Skull Bash|ロケットずつき|Rocket Zutsuki|Coud'Krâne|Schädelwumme|Capocciata|Cabezazo|로케트박치기|Rocket Bakchigi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|131|Spike Cannon|とげキャノン|Toge Cano|Picanon|Dornkanone|Sparalance|Clavo Cañón|가시대포|Gasi Daepo|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|132|Constrict|からみつく|Karamitsuku|Constriction|Umklammerung|Limitazione|Restricción|휘감기|Hwigamgi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|133|Amnesia|ドわすれ|Dowasure|Amnésie|Amnesie|Amnesia|Amnesia|망각술|Manggaksul|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|134|Kinesis|スプーンまげ|Spoon Mage|Télékinésie|Psykraft|Cinèsi|Kinético|숟가락휘기|Sutgarak Hwigi|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|135|Soft-Boiled|タマゴうみ|Tamago Umi|E-Coque|Weichei|Covauova|Amortiguador|알낳기|Alnaki|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|136|High Jump Kick|とびひざげり|Tobihizageri|Pied Voltige|Turmkick|Calcinvolo|{{tt|Pat. Salto Alta|Patada Salto Alta}}|무릎차기|Mureupchagi|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|137|Glare|へびにらみ|Hebi Nirami|Regard Médusant|Giftblick|Sguardo Feroce|Deslumbrar|뱀의미소|Baem-yi Miso|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|138|Dream Eater|ゆめくい|Yume Kui|Dévorêve|Traumfresser|Mangiasogni|Comesueños|꿈먹기|Kkum Meokgi|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|139|Poison Gas|どくガス|Doku Gas|Gaz Toxik|Giftwolke|Velenogas|Gas Venenoso|독가스|Dok Gas|color=Poison}}
{{Langlist|move|140|Barrage|たまなげ|Tamanage|Pilonnage|Stakkato|Attacco Pioggia|Presa|구슬던지기|Guseul Deonjigi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|141|Leech Life|きゅうけつ|Kyūketsu|Vampirisme|Blutsauger|Sanguisuga|Chupavidas|흡혈|Heuphyeol|color=Bug}}
{{Langlist|move|142|Lovely Kiss|あくまのキッス|Akuma no Kiss|Grobisou|Todeskuss|Demonbacio|Beso Amoroso|악마의키스|Akma-yi Kiss|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|143|Sky Attack|ゴッドバード|God Bird|Piqué|Himmelsfeger|Aeroattacco|Ataque Aéreo|불새|Bul Sae|color=Flying}}
{{Langlist|move|144|Transform|へんしん|Henshin|Morphing|Wandler|Trasformazione|Transformación|변신|Byeonsin|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|145|Bubble|あわ|Awa|Écume|Blubber|Bolla|Burbuja|거품|Geopum|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|146|Dizzy Punch|ピヨピヨパンチ|Piyopiyo Punch|Uppercut|Irrschlag|Stordipugno|Puño Mareo|잼잼펀치|Jaemjaem Punch|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|147|Spore|キノコのほうし|Kinoko no Hōshi|Spore|Pilzspore|Spora|Espora|버섯포자|Beoseot Poja|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|148|Flash|フラッシュ|Flash|Flash|Blitz|Flash|Destello|플래시|Flash|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|149|Psywave|サイコウェーブ|Psycho Wave|Vague Psy|Psywelle|Psiconda|Psicoonda|사이코웨이브|Psycho Wave|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|150|Splash|はねる|Haneru|Trempette|Platscher|Splash|Salpicadura|튀어오르기|Twieo Oreugi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|151|Acid Armor|とける|Tokeru|Acidarmure|Säurepanzer|Scudo Acido|Armadura Ácida|녹기|Nokgi|color=Poison}}
{{Langlist|move|152|Crabhammer|クラブハンマー|Crab Hammer|Pince-Masse|Krabbhammer|Martellata|Martillazo|찝게햄머|Jjipge Hammer|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|153|Explosion|だいばくはつ|Dai Bakuhatsu|Explosion|Explosion|Esplosione|Explosión|대폭발|Dae Pokbal|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|154|Fury Swipes|みだれひっかき|Midare Hikkaki|Combo-Griffe|Kratzfurie|Sfuriate|Golpes Furia|마구할퀴기|Magu Halkwigi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|155|Bonemerang|ホネブーメラン|Hone Boomerang|Osmerang|Knochmerang|Ossomerang|Huesomerang|뼈다귀부메랑|Ppyeodagwi Boomerang|color=Ground}}
{{Langlist|move|156|Rest|ねむる|Nemuru|Repos|Erholung|Riposo|Descanso|잠자기|Jamjagi|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|157|Rock Slide|いわなだれ|Iwa Nadare|Éboulement|Steinhagel|Frana|Avalancha|스톤샤워|Stone Shower|color=Rock}}
{{Langlist|move|158|Hyper Fang|ひっさつまえば|Hissatsu Maeba|Croc de Mort|Hyperzahn|Iperzanna|Hiper Colmillo|필살앞니|Pilsal Apni|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|159|Sharpen|かくばる|Kakubaru|Affûtage|Schärfer|Affilatore|Afilar|각지기|Gakjigi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|160|Conversion|テクスチャー|Texture|Conversion|Umwandlung|Conversione|Conversión|텍스처|Texture|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|161|Tri Attack|トライアタック|Tri-Attack|Triplattaque|Triplette|Tripletta|Triataque|트라이어택|Tri-Attack|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|162|Super Fang|いかりのまえば|Ikari no Maeba|Croc Fatal|Superzahn|Superzanna|Superdiente|분노의앞니|Bunno-yi Apni|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|163|Slash|きりさく|Kirisaku|Tranche|Schlitzer|Lacerazione|Cuchillada|베어가르기|Beeo Gareugi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|164|Substitute|みがわり|Migawari|Clonage|Delegator|Sostituto|Sustituto|대타출동|Daetachuldong|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|165|Struggle|わるあがき|Waruagaki|Lutte|Verzweifler|Scontro|Combate|발버둥|Balbeodung|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|166|Sketch|スケッチ|Sketch|Gribouille|Nachahmer|Schizzo|Esquema|스케치|Sketch|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|167|Triple Kick|トリプルキック|Triple Kick|Triple Pied|Dreifachkick|Triplocalcio|Triple Patada|트리플킥|Triple Kick|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|168|Thief|どろぼう|Dorobō|Larcin|Raub|Furto|Ladrón|도둑질|Dodukjil|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|169|Spider Web|クモのす|Kumo no Su|Toile|Spinnennetz|Ragnatela|Telaraña|거미집|Geomijip|color=Bug}}
{{Langlist|move|170|Mind Reader|こころのめ|Kokoro no Me|Lire-Esprit|Willensleser|Leggimente|Telépata|마음의눈|Ma'eum-yi Nun|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|171|Nightmare|あくむ|Akumu|Cauchemar|Nachtmahr|Incubo|Pesadilla|악몽|Akmong|color=Ghost}}
{{Langlist|move|172|Flame Wheel|かえんぐるま|Kaenguruma|Roue de Feu|Flammenrad|Ruotafuoco|Rueda Fuego|화염자동차|Hwayeom Jadongcha|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|173|Snore|いびき|Ibiki|Ronflement|Schnarcher|Russare|Ronquido|코골기|Kogolgi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|174|Curse|のろい|Noroi|Malédiction|Fluch|Maledizione|Maldición|저주|Jeoju|color=Ghost}}
{{Langlist|move|175|Flail|じたばた|Jitabata|Fléau|Dreschflegel|Flagello|Azote|바둥바둥|Badungbadung|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|176|Conversion 2|テクスチャー２|Texture 2|Conversion2|Umwandlung2|Conversione2|Conversión2|텍스처２|Texture 2|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|177|Aeroblast|エアロブラスト|Aeroblast|Aéroblast|Luftstoß|Aerocolpo|Aerochorro|에어로블라스트|Aeroblast|color=Flying}}
{{Langlist|move|178|Cotton Spore|わたほうし|Watahōshi|Spore Coton|Baumwollsaat|Cottonspora|Esporagodón|목화포자|Mokhwa Poja|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|179|Reversal|きしかいせい|Kishi Kaisei|Contre|Gegenschlag|Contropiede|Inversión|기사회생|Gisa Hoesaeng|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|180|Spite|うらみ|Urami|Dépit|Groll|Dispetto|Rencor|원한|Weonhan|color=Ghost}}
{{Langlist|move|181|Powder Snow|こなゆき|Konayuki|Poudreuse|Pulverschnee|Polneve|Nieve Polvo|눈싸라기|Nun Ssaragi|color=Ice}}
{{Langlist|move|182|Protect|まもる|Mamoru|Abri|Schutzschild|Protezione|Protección|방어|Bang'eo|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|183|Mach Punch|マッハパンチ|Mach Punch|Mach Punch|Tempohieb|Pugnorapido|Ultrapuño|마하펀치|Mach Punch|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|184|Scary Face|こわいかお|Kowai Kao|Grimace|Grimasse|Visotruce|Cara Susto|겁나는얼굴|Geopna-neun Eolgul|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|185|Feint Attack|だましうち|Damashiuchi|Feinte|Finte|Finta|Finta|속여때리기|Sok'yeo Ttaerigi|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|186|Sweet Kiss|てんしのキッス|Tenshi no Kiss|Doux Baiser|Bitterkuss|Dolcebacio|Beso Dulce|천사의키스|Cheonsa-yi Kiss|color=Fairy}}
{{Langlist|move|187|Belly Drum|はらだいこ|Haradaiko|Cognobidon|Bauchtrommel|Panciamburo|Tambor|배북|Baebuk|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|188|Sludge Bomb|ヘドロばくだん|Hedoro Bakudan|Bomb-Beurk|Matschbombe|Fangobomba|Bomba Lodo|오물폭탄|Omul Poktan|color=Poison}}
{{Langlist|move|189|Mud-Slap|どろかけ|Dorokake|Coud'Boue|Lehmschelle|Fangosberla|Bofetón Lodo|진흙뿌리기|Jinheuk Ppurigi|color=Ground}}
{{Langlist|move|190|Octazooka|オクタンほう|Okutank Hō|Octazooka|Octazooka|Octazooka|Pulpocañón|대포무노포|Daepomuno Po|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|191|Spikes|まきびし|Makibishi|Picots|Stachler|Punte|Púas|압정뿌리기|Apjeong Ppurigi|color=Ground}}
{{Langlist|move|192|Zap Cannon|でんじほう|Denjihō|Élecanon|Blitzkanone|Falcecannone|Electrocañón|전자포|Jeonjapo|color=Electric}}
{{Langlist|move|193|Foresight|みやぶる|Miyaburu|Clairvoyance|Gesichte|Preveggenza|Profecía|꿰뚫어보기|Kkwettul'eobogi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|194|Destiny Bond|みちづれ|Michidzure|Prélèvem. Destin|Abgangsbund|Destinobbligato|Mismo Destino|길동무|Gil Dongmu|color=Ghost}}
{{Langlist|move|195|Perish Song|ほろびのうた|Horobi no Uta|Requiem|Abgesang|Ultimocanto|Canto Mortal|멸망의노래|Myeolmang-yi Norae|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|196|Icy Wind|こごえるかぜ|Kogoeru Kaze|Vent Glace|Eissturm|Ventogelato|Viento Hielo|얼다바람|Eolda Baram|color=Ice}}
{{Langlist|move|197|Detect|みきり|Mikiri|Détection|Scanner|Individua|Detección|선찰|Seonchal|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|198|Bone Rush|ボーンラッシュ|Bone Rush|Charge-Os|Knochenhatz|Ossoraffica|Ataque Óseo|본러쉬|Bone Rush|color=Ground}}
{{Langlist|move|199|Lock-On|ロックオン|Lock On|Verrouillage|Zielschuss|Localizza|Fijar Blanco|록온|Lock On|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|200|Outrage|げきりん|Gekirin|Colère|Wutanfall|Oltraggio|Enfado|역린|Yeokrin|color=Dragon}}
{{Langlist|move|201|Sandstorm|すなあらし|Suna Arashi|Tempête de Sable|Sandsturm|Terrempesta|Tormenta Arena|모래바람|Morae Baram|color=Rock}}
{{Langlist|move|202|Giga Drain|ギガドレイン|Giga Drain|Giga-Sangsue|Gigasauger|Gigassorbimento|Gigadrenado|기가드레인|Giga Drain|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|203|Endure|こらえる|Koraeru|Ténacité|Ausdauer|Resistenza|Aguante|버티기|Beotigi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|204|Charm|あまえる|Amaeru|Charme|Charme|Fascino|Encanto|애교부리기|Aegyo Burigi|color=Fairy}}
{{Langlist|move|205|Rollout|ころがる|Korogaru|Roulade|Walzer|Rotolamento|Desenrollar|구르기|Gureugi|color=Rock}}
{{Langlist|move|206|False Swipe|みねうち|Mine Uchi|Faux-Chage|Trugschlag|Falsofinale|Falsotortazo|칼등치기|Kaldeungchigi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|207|Swagger|いばる|Ibaru|Vantardise|Angeberei|Bullo|Contoneo|뽐내기|Ppomnaegi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|208|Milk Drink|ミルクのみ|Milk Nomi|Lait à Boire|Milchgetränk|Buonlatte|Batido|우유마시기|Uyu Masigi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|209|Spark|スパーク|Spark|Étincelle|Funkensprung|Scintilla|Chispa|스파크|Spark|color=Electric}}
{{Langlist|move|210|Fury Cutter|れんぞくぎり|Renzoku Giri|Taillade|Zornklinge|Tagliofuria|Cortefuria|연속자르기|Yeonsok Jareugi|color=Bug}}
{{Langlist|move|211|Steel Wing|はがねのつばさ|Hagane no Tsubasa|Aile d’Acier|Stahlflügel|Alacciaio|Ala De Acero|강철날개|Gangcheol Nalgae|color=Steel}}
{{Langlist|move|212|Mean Look|くろいまなざし|Kuroi Manazashi|Regard Noir|Horrorblick|Malosguardo|Mal De Ojo|검은눈빛|Geom-eun Nunbit|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|213|Attract|メロメロ|Meromero|Attraction|Anziehung|Attrazione|Atracción|헤롱헤롱|Herongherong|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|214|Sleep Talk|ねごと|Negoto|Blabla Dodo|Schlafrede|Sonnolalia|Sonámbulo|잠꼬대|Jamkkodae|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|215|Heal Bell|いやしのすず|Iyashi no Suzu|Glas de Soin|Vitalglocke|Rintoccasana|Campana Cura|치료방울|Chiryo Bang'ul|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|216|Return|おんがえし|Ongaeshi|Retour|Rückkehr|Ritorno|Retribución|은혜갚기|Eunhye Gapgi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|217|Present|プレゼント|Present|Cadeau|Geschenk|Regalino|Presente|프레젠트|Present|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|218|Frustration|やつあたり|Yatsuatari|Frustration|Frustration|Frustrazione|Frustración|화풀이|Hwapul'i|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|219|Safeguard|しんぴのまもり|Shinpi no Mamori|Rune Protect|Bodyguard|Salvaguardia|Velo Sagrado|신비의부적|Sinbi-yi Bujeok|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|220|Pain Split|いたみわけ|Itamiwake|Balance|Leidteiler|Malcomune|Divide Dolor|아픔나누기|Apeum Nanugi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|221|Sacred Fire|せいなるほのお|Seinaru Honō|Feu Sacré|Läuterfeuer|Magifuoco|Fuego Sagrado|성스러운불꽃|Seongseureoun Bulkkot|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|222|Magnitude|マグニチュード|Magnitude|Ampleur|Intensität|Magnitudo|Magnitud|매그니튜드|Magnitude|color=Ground}}
{{Langlist|move|223|Dynamic Punch|ばくれつパンチ|Bakuretsu Punch|Dynamopoing|Wuchtschlag|Dinamipugno|Puño Dinámico|폭발펀치|Pokbal Punch|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|224|Megahorn|メガホーン|Megahorn|Mégacorne|Vielender|Megacorno|Megacuerno|메가폰|Megapon|color=Bug}}
{{Langlist|move|225|Dragon Breath|りゅうのいぶき|Ryū no Ibuki|Dracosouffle|Feuerodem|Dragospiro|Dragoaliento|용의숨결|Yong-yi Sumgyeol|color=Dragon}}
{{Langlist|move|226|Baton Pass|バトンタッチ|Baton Touch|Relais|Staffette|Staffetta|Relevo|바톤터치|Baton Touch|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|227|Encore|アンコール|Encore|Encore|Zugabe|Ripeti|Otra Vez|앵콜|Encore|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|228|Pursuit|おいうち|Oiuchi|Poursuite|Verfolgung|Inseguimento|Persecución|따라가때리기|Ttaragattaerigi|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|229|Rapid Spin|こうそくスピン|Kōsoku Spin|Tour Rapide|Turbodreher|Rapigiro|Giro Rápido|고속스핀|Gosok Spin|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|230|Sweet Scent|あまいかおり|Amai Kaori|Doux Parfum|Lockduft|Profumino|Dulce Aroma|달콤한향기|Dalkomhan Hyanggi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|231|Iron Tail|アイアンテール|Iron Tail|Queue de Fer|Eisenschweif|Codacciaio|Cola Férrea|아이언테일|Iron Tail|color=Steel}}
{{Langlist|move|232|Metal Claw|メタルクロー|Metal Claw|Griffe Acier|Metallklaue|Ferrartigli|Garra Metal|메탈크로우|Metal Claw|color=Steel}}
{{Langlist|move|233|Vital Throw|あてみなげ|Ateminage|Corps Perdu|Überwurf|Vitaltiro|Tiro Vital|받아던지기|Bat'a Deonjigi|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|234|Morning Sun|あさのひざし|Asa no Hizashi|Aurore|Morgengrauen|Mattindoro|Sol Matinal|아침햇살|Achim Haetsal|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|235|Synthesis|こうごうせい|Kōgōsei|Synthèse|Synthese|Sintesi|Síntesis|광합성|Gwanghapseong|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|236|Moonlight|つきのひかり|Tsuki no Hikari|Rayon Lune|Mondschein|Lucelunare|Luz Lunar|달의불빛|Dal-yi Bulbit|color=Fairy}}
{{Langlist|move|237|Hidden Power|めざめるパワー|Mezameru Power|Puissance Cachée|Kraftreserve|Introforza|Poder Oculto|잠재파워|Jamjae Power|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|238|Cross Chop|クロスチョップ|Cross Chop|Coup-Croix|Kreuzhieb|Incrocolpo|Tajo Cruzado|크로스촙|Cross Chop|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|239|Twister|たつまき|Tatsumaki|Ouragan|Windhose|Tornado|Ciclón|회오리|Hoe'ori|color=Dragon}}
{{Langlist|move|240|Rain Dance|あまごい|Amagoi|Danse Pluie|Regentanz|Pioggiadanza|Danza Lluvia|비바라기|Bibaragi|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|241|Sunny Day|にほんばれ|Nihonbare|Zénith|Sonnentag|Giornodisole|Día Soleado|쾌청|Kwaecheong|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|242|Crunch|かみくだく|Kamikudaku|Mâchouille|Knirscher|Sgranocchio|Triturar|깨물어부수기|Kkaemul'eobusugi|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|243|Mirror Coat|ミラーコート|Mirror Coat|Voile Miroir|Spiegelcape|Specchiovelo|Manto Espejo|미러코트|Mirror Coat|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|244|Psych Up|じこあんじ|Jikoanji|Boost|Psycho-Plus|Psicamisù|Más Psique|자기암시|Jagi Amsi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|245|Extreme Speed|しんそく|Shinsoku|Vitesse Extrême|Turbotempo|Extrarapido|{{tt|Veloc. Extrema|Velocidad Extrema}}|신속|Sinsok|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|246|Ancient Power|げんしのちから|Genshi no Chikara|Pouvoir Antique|Antik-Kraft|Forzantica|Poder Pasado|원시의힘|Weonsa-yi Him|color=Rock}}
{{Langlist|move|247|Shadow Ball|シャドーボール|Shadow Ball|Ball'Ombre|Spukball|Palla Ombra|Bola Sombra|섀도볼|Shadow Ball|color=Ghost}}
{{Langlist|move|248|Future Sight|みらいよち|Mirai Yochi|Prescience|Seher|Divinazione|Premonición|미래예지|Mirae Yeoji|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|249|Rock Smash|いわくだき|Iwakudaki|Éclate-Roc|Zertrümmerer|Spaccaroccia|Golpe Roca|바위깨기|Bawi Kkaegi|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|250|Whirlpool|うずしお|Uzushio|Siphon|Whirlpool|Mulinello|Torbellino|바다회오리|Bada Hoe'ori|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|251|Beat Up|ふくろだたき|Fukurodataki|Baston|Prügler|Picchiaduro|Paliza|집단구타|Jipdan Guta|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|252|Fake Out|ねこだまし|Nekodamashi|Bluff|Mogelhieb|Bruciapelo|Sorpresa|속이다|Sok'ida|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|253|Uproar|さわぐ|Sawagu|Brouhaha|Aufruhr|Baraonda|Alboroto|소란피기|Soranpigi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|254|Stockpile|たくわえる|Takuwaeru|Stockage|Horter|Accumulo|Reserva|비축하기|Bichukhagi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|255|Spit Up|はきだす|Hakidasu|Relâche|Entfessler|Sfoghenergia|Escupir|토해내기|Tohaenaegi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|256|Swallow|のみこむ|Nomikomu|Avale|Verzehrer|Intoenergia|Tragar|꿀꺽|Kkulkkeok|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|257|Heat Wave|ねっぷう|Neppū|Canicule|Hitzewelle|Ondacalda|Onda Ígnea|열풍|Yeolpung|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|258|Hail|あられ|Arare|Grêle|Hagelsturm|Grandine|Granizo|싸라기눈|Ssaragi Nun|color=Ice}}
{{Langlist|move|259|Torment|いちゃもん|Ichamon|Tourmente|Folterknecht|Attaccalite|Tormento|트집|Teujip|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|260|Flatter|おだてる|Odateru|Flatterie|Schmeichler|Adulazione|Camelo|부추기기|Buchugigi|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|261|Will-O-Wisp|おにび|Onibi|Feu Follet|Irrlicht|Fuocofatuo|Fuego Fatuo|도깨비불|Dokkaebi Bul|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|262|Memento|おきみやげ|Okimiyage|Souvenir|Memento-Mori|Memento|Legado|추억의선물|Chueok-yi Seonmul|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|263|Facade|からげんき|Karagenki|Façade|Fassade|Facciata|Imagen|객기|Gaekgi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|264|Focus Punch|きあいパンチ|Kiai Punch|Mitra-Poing|Power-Punch|Centripugno|Puño Certero|힘껏펀치|Himkkeot Punch|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|265|Smelling Salts|きつけ|Kitsuke|Stimulant|Riechsalz|Maniereforti|Estímulo|정신차리기|Jeongsin Charigi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|266|Follow Me|このゆびとまれ|Kono Yubi Tomare|Par Ici|Spotlight|Sonoqui|Señuelo|날따름|Nalttareum|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|267|Nature Power|しぜんのちから|Shizen no Chikara|Force-Nature|Natur-Kraft|Naturforza|Adaptación|자연의힘|Jayeon-yi Him|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|268|Charge|じゅうでん|Jūden|Chargeur|Ladevorgang|Sottocarica|Carga|충전|Chungjeon|color=Electric}}
{{Langlist|move|269|Taunt|ちょうはつ|Chōhatsu|Provoc|Verhöhner|Provocazione|Mofa|도발|Dobal|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|270|Helping Hand|てだすけ|Tedasuke|Coup d'Main|Rechte Hand|Altruismo|Refuerzo|도우미|Doumi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|271|Trick|トリック|Trick|Tourmagik|Trickbetrug|Raggiro|Truco|트릭|Trick|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|272|Role Play|なりきり|Narikiri|Imitation|Rollentausch|Giocodiruolo|Imitación|역할|Yeokhal|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|273|Wish|ねがいごと|Negaigoto|Vœu|Wunschtraum|Desiderio|Deseo|희망사항|Hyimang Sahang|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|274|Assist|ねこのて|Neko no Te|Assistance|Zuschuss|Assistente|Ayuda|조수|Josu|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|275|Ingrain|ねをはる|Ne wo Haru|Racines|Verwurzler|Radicamento|Arraigo|뿌리박기|Ppuri Bakgi|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|276|Superpower|ばかぢから|Bakajikara|Surpuissance|Kraftkoloss|Troppoforte|Fuerza Bruta|엄청난힘|Eomcheongnan Him|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|277|Magic Coat|マジックコート|Magic Coat|Reflet Magik|Magiemantel|Magivelo|Capa Mágica|매직코트|Magic Coat|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|278|Recycle|リサイクル|Recycle|Recyclage|Aufbereitung|Riciclo|Reciclaje|리사이클|Recycle|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|279|Revenge|リベンジ|Revenge|Vendetta|Vergeltung|Vendetta|Desquite|리벤지|Revenge|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|280|Brick Break|かわらわり|Kawarawari|Casse-Brique|Durchbruch|Breccia|Demolición|깨트리다|Kkaeteurida|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|281|Yawn|あくび|Akubi|Bâillement|Gähner|Sbadiglio|Bostezo|하품|Hapum|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|282|Knock Off|はたきおとす|Hatakiotosu|Sabotage|Abschlag|Privazione|Desarme|탁쳐서떨구기|Takchyeoseo Tteolgugi|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|283|Endeavor|がむしゃら|Gamushara|Effort|Notsituation|Rimonta|Esfuerzo|죽기살기|Jukgisalgi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|284|Eruption|ふんか|Funka|Éruption|Eruption|Eruzione|Estallido|분화|Bunhwa|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|285|Skill Swap|スキルスワップ|Skill Swap|Échange|Wertewechsel|Baratto|Intercambio|스킬스웹|Skill Swap|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|286|Imprison|ふういん|Fūin|Possessif|Begrenzer|Esclusiva|Cerca|봉인|Bong'in|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|287|Refresh|リフレッシュ|Refresh|Régénération|Heilung|Rinfrescata|Alivio|리프레쉬|Refresh|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|288|Grudge|おんねん|On'nen|Rancune|Nachspiel|Rancore|Rabia|원념|Weonnyeom|color=Ghost}}
{{Langlist|move|289|Snatch|よこどり|Yokodori|Saisie|Übernahme|Scippo|Robo|가로챔|Garochaem|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|290|Secret Power|ひみつのちから|Himitsu no Chikara|Force Cachée|Geheimpower|Forzasegreta|Daño Secreto|비밀의힘|Bimil-yi Him|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|291|Dive|ダイビング|Diving|Plongée|Taucher|Sub|Buceo|다이빙|Diving|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|292|Arm Thrust|つっぱり|Tsuppari|Cogne|Armstoß|Sberletese|Empujón|손바닥치기|Sonbadak Chigi|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|293|Camouflage|ほごしょく|Hogoshoku|Camouflage|Tarnung|Camuffamento|Camuflaje|보호색|Bohosaek|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|294|Tail Glow|ほたるび|Hotarubi|Lumiqueue|Schweifglanz|Codadiluce|Ráfaga|반딧불|Banditbul|color=Bug}}
{{Langlist|move|295|Luster Purge|ラスターパージ|Luster Purge|Lumi-Éclat|Scheinwerfer|Abbagliante|Resplandor|라스트버지|Luster Purge|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|296|Mist Ball|ミストボール|Mist Ball|Ball'Brume|Nebelball|Foschisfera|Bola Neblina|미스트볼|Mist Ball|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|297|Feather Dance|フェザーダンス|Feather Dance|Danse-Plume|Daunenreigen|Danzadipiume|Danza Pluma|깃털댄스|Git'teol Dance|color=Flying}}
{{Langlist|move|298|Teeter Dance|フラフラダンス|Furafura Dance|Danse-Folle|Taumeltanz|Strampadanza|Danza Caos|흔들흔들댄스|Heundeulheundeul Dance|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|299|Blaze Kick|ブレイズキック|Blaze Kick|Pied Brûleur|Feuerfeger|Calciardente|Patada Ígnea|브레이즈킥|Blaze Kick|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|300|Mud Sport|どろあそび|Doroasobi|Lance-Boue|Lehmsuhler|Fangata|Chapoteo Lodo|흙놀이|Heulk Nol'i|color=Ground}}
{{Langlist|move|301|Ice Ball|アイスボール|Ice Ball|Ball'Glace|Frostbeule|Palla Gelo|Bola Hielo|아이스볼|Ice Ball|color=Ice}}
{{Langlist|move|302|Needle Arm|ニードルアーム|Needle Arm|Poing Dard|Nietenranke|Pugnospine|Brazo Pincho|바늘팔|Bineul Pal|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|303|Slack Off|なまける|Namakeru|Paresse|Tagedieb|Pigro|Relajo|태만함|Taemanham|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|304|Hyper Voice|ハイパーボイス|Hyper Voice|Mégaphone|Schallwelle|Granvoce|Vozarrón|하이퍼보이스|Hyper Voice|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|305|Poison Fang|どくどくのキバ|Dokudoku no Kiba|Crochet Venin|Giftzahn|Velenodenti|Colmillo Ven|독엄니|Dok Eomni|color=Poison}}
{{Langlist|move|306|Crush Claw|ブレイククロー|Break Claw|Éclate Griffe|Zermalmklaue|Tritartigli|Garra Brutal|브레이크크루|Break Claw|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|307|Blast Burn|ブラストバーン|Blast Burn|Rafale Feu|Lohekanonade|Incendio|Anillo Ígneo|블러스트번|Blast Burn|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|308|Hydro Cannon|ハイドロカノン|Hydrocannon|Hydroblast|Aquahaubitze|Idrocannone|Hidrocañón|하이드로캐논|Hydrocannon|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|309|Meteor Mash|コメットパンチ|Comet Punch|Poing Météor|Sternenhieb|Meteorpugno|Puño Meteoro|코멧펀치|Comet Punch|color=Steel}}
{{Langlist|move|310|Astonish|おどろかす|Odorokasu|Étonnement|Erstauner|Sgomento|Impresionar|놀래키기|Nollaekigi|color=Ghost}}
{{Langlist|move|311|Weather Ball|ウェザーボール|Weather Ball|Ball'Météo|Meteorologe|Palla Clima|Meteorobola|웨더볼|Weather Ball|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|312|Aromatherapy|アロマセラピー|Aromatherapy|Aromathérapi|Aromakur|Aromaterapia|Aromaterapia|아로마테라피|Aromatherapy|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|313|Fake Tears|うそなき|Uso Naki|Croco Larme|Trugträne|Falselacrime|Llanto Falso|거짓울음|Geojit Ul'eum|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|314|Air Cutter|エアカッター|Air Cutter|Tranch'Air|Windschnitt|Aerasoio|Aire Afilado|에어컷터|Air Cutter|color=Flying}}
{{Langlist|move|315|Overheat|オーバーヒート|Overheat|Surchauffe|Hitzekoller|Vampata|Sofoco|오버히트|Overheat|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|316|Odor Sleuth|かぎわける|Kagiwakeru|Flair|Schnüffler|Segugio|Rastreo|냄새구별|Naemsae Gubyeol|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|317|Rock Tomb|がんせきふうじ|Ganseki Fūji|Tomberoche|Felsgrab|Rocciotomba|Tumba Rocas|암석봉인|Amseok Bong'in|color=Rock}}
{{Langlist|move|318|Silver Wind|ぎんいろのかぜ|Giniro no Kaze|Vent Argenté|Silberhauch|Ventargenteo|Viento Plata|은빛바람|Eunbit Baram|color=Bug}}
{{Langlist|move|319|Metal Sound|きんぞくおん|Kinzoku On|Strido-Son|Metallsound|Ferrostrido|Eco Metálico|금속음|Geumsok Eum|color=Steel}}
{{Langlist|move|320|Grass Whistle|くさぶえ|Kusabue|Siffl'Herbe|Grasflöte|Meloderba|Silbato|풀피리|Pul Piri|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|321|Tickle|くすぐる|Kusuguru|Chatouille|Spaßkanone|Solletico|Cosquillas|간지르기|Ganjireugi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|322|Cosmic Power|コスモパワー|Cosmopower|Force Cosmik|Kosmik-Kraft|Cosmoforza|Masa Cósmica|코스믹파워|Cosmic Power|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|323|Water Spout|しおふき|Shiofuki|Giclédo|Fontränen|Zampillo|Salpicar|바지락조개|Bajirakjogae|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|324|Signal Beam|シグナルビーム|Signal Beam|Rayon Signal|Ampelleuchte|Segnoraggio|Doble Rayo|시그널빔|Signal Beam|color=Bug}}
{{Langlist|move|325|Shadow Punch|シャドーパンチ|Shadow Punch|Poing Ombre|Finsterfaust|Pugnodombra|Puño Sombra|섀도펀치|Shadow Punch|color=Ghost}}
{{Langlist|move|326|Extrasensory|じんつうりき|Jintsūriki|Extrasenseur|Sondersensor|Extrasenso|Paranormal|신통력|Sintongryeok|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|327|Sky Uppercut|スカイアッパー|Sky Upper|Stratopercut|Himmelhieb|Stramontante|Gancho Alto|스카이업퍼|Sky Upper|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|328|Sand Tomb|すなじごく|Suna Jigoku|Tourbi-Sable|Sandgrab|Sabbiotomba|Bucle Arena|모래지옥|Morae Jiok|color=Ground}}
{{Langlist|move|329|Sheer Cold|ぜったいれいど|Zettai Reido|Glaciation|Eiseskälte|Purogelo|Frío Polar|절대영도|Jeoldae Yeongdo|color=Ice}}
{{Langlist|move|330|Muddy Water|だくりゅう|Dakuryū|Ocroupi|Lehmbrühe|Fanghiglia|Agua Lodosa|절대영도|Jeoldae Yeongdo|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|331|Bullet Seed|タネマシンガン|Tane Machinegun|Balle Graine|Kugelsaat|Semitraglia|Recurrente|기관총|Gigwanchong|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|332|Aerial Ace|つばめがえし|Tsubame Gaeshi|Aéropique|Aero-Ass|Aeroassalto|Golpe Aéreo|제비반환|Jebi Banhwan|color=Flying}}
{{Langlist|move|333|Icicle Spear|つららばり|Tsurara Bari|Stalagtite|Eisspeer|Gelolancia|Carámbano|고드름침|Godoreum Chim|color=Ice}}
{{Langlist|move|334|Iron Defense|てっぺき|Teppeki|Mur de Fer|Eisenabwehr|Ferroscudo|Defensa Férrea|철벽|Cheolbyeok|color=Steel}}
{{Langlist|move|335|Block|とおせんぼう|Tōsenbō|Barrage|Rückentzug|Blocco|Bloqueo|블록|Block|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|336|Howl|とおぼえ|Tōboe|Grondement|Jauler|Gridodilotta|Aullido|멀리짖음|Meolli Jit'eum|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|337|Dragon Claw|ドラゴンクロー|Dragon Claw|Dracogriffe|Drachenklaue|Dragartigli|Garra Dragón|드래곤크루|Dragon Claw|color=Dragon}}
{{Langlist|move|338|Frenzy Plant|ハードプラント|Hard Plant|Végé-Attak|Fauna-Statue|Radicalbero|Planta Feroz|하드플랜트|Hard Plant|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|339|Bulk Up|ビルドアップ|Build-Up|Gonflette|Protzer|Granfisico|Corpulencia|벌크업|Build-Up|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|340|Bounce|とびはねる|Tobihaneru|Rebond|Sprungfeder|Rimbalzo|Bote|뛰어오르다|Ttwieooreuda|color=Flying}}
{{Langlist|move|341|Mud Shot|マッドショット|Mud Shot|Tir de Boue|Lehmschuss|Colpodifango|Disparo Lodo|머드숏|Mud Shot|color=Ground}}
{{Langlist|move|342|Poison Tail|ポイズンテール|Poison Tail|Queue-Poison|Giftschweif|Velenocoda|Cola Veneno|포이즌테일|Poison Tail|color=Poison}}
{{Langlist|move|343|Covet|ほしがる|Hoshigaru|Implore|Bezirzer|Supplica|Antojo|탐내다|Tamnaeda|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|344|Volt Tackle|ボルテッカー|Volteccer|Électacle|Volttackle|Locomovolt|Placaje Eléctrico|볼트태클|Volt Tackle|color=Electric}}
{{Langlist|move|345|Magical Leaf|マジカルリーフ|Magical Leaf|Feuillemagik|Zauberblatt|Fogliamagica|Hoja Mágica|메지컬리프|Magical Leaf|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|346|Water Sport|みずあそび|Mizuasobi|Tourniquet|Nassmacher|Docciascudo|Hidrochorro|물놀이|Mul Nol'i|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|347|Calm Mind|めいそう|Meisō|Plénitude|Gedankengut|Calmamente|Paz Mental|명상|Myeongsong|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|348|Leaf Blade|リーフブレード|Leaf Blade|Lame-Feuille|Laubklinge|Fendifoglia|Hoja Aguda|리프블레이드|Leaf Blade|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|349|Dragon Dance|りゅうのまい|Ryū no Mai|Danse Draco|Drachentanz|Dragodanza|Danza Dragón|용의춤|Yong-yi Chum|color=Dragon}}
{{Langlist|move|350|Rock Blast|ロックブラスト|Rock Blast|Boule Roc|Felswurf|Cadutamassi|Pedrada|락블레스트|Rock Blast|color=Rock}}
{{Langlist|move|351|Shock Wave|でんげきは|Dengekiha|Onde de Choc|Schockwelle|Ondashock|Onda Voltio|전격파|Jeongyeokpa|color=Electric}}
{{Langlist|move|352|Water Pulse|みずのはどう|Mizu no Hadō|Vibraqua|Aquawelle|Idropulsar|Hidropulso|물의파동|Mul-yi Padong|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|353|Doom Desire|はめつのねがい|Hametsu no Negai|Carnareket|Kismetwunsch|Obbliderio|Deseo Oculto|파멸의소원|Pamyeol-yi Soweon|color=Steel}}
{{Langlist|move|354|Psycho Boost|サイコブースト|Psycho Boost|Psycho Boost|Psyschub|Psicoslancio|Psicoataque|사이코부스트|Psycho Boost|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|355|Roost|はねやすめ|Hane Yasume|Atterrissage|Ruheort|Trespolo|Respiro|날개쉬기|Nalgae Swigi|color=Flying}}
{{Langlist|move|356|Gravity|じゅうりょく|Jūryoku|Gravité|Erdanziehung|Gravità|Gravedad|중력|Jungryeok|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|357|Miracle Eye|ミラクルアイ|Miracle Eye|Œil Miracle|Wunderauge|Miracolvista|Gran Ojo|미라클아이|Miracle Eye|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|358|Wake-Up Slap|めざましビンタ|Mezamashi Binta|Réveil Forcé|Weckruf|Svegliopacca|Espabila|잠깨움뺨치기|Jamkkae'um Ppyamchigi|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|359|Hammer Arm|アームハンマー|Arm Hammer|Marto-Poing|Hammerarm|Martelpugno|Machada|암해머|Arm Hammer|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|360|Gyro Ball|ジャイロボール|Gyroball|Gyroballe|Gyroball|Vortexpalla|Giro Bola|자이로볼|Gyroball|color=Steel}}
{{Langlist|move|361|Healing Wish|いやしのねがい|Iyashi no Negai|Vœu Soin|Heilopfer|Curardore|Deseo Cura|치유소원|Chiyu Soweon|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|362|Brine|しおみず|Shiomizu|Saumure|Lake|Acquadisale|Salmuera|소금물|Sogeummul|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|363|Natural Gift|しぜんのめぐみ|Shizen no Megumi|Don Naturel|Beerenkräfte|Dononaturale|Don Natural|자연의은혜|Jayeon-yi Eunhae|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|364|Feint|フェイント|Feint|Ruse|Offenlegung|Fintoattacco|Amago|페인트|Feint|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|365|Pluck|ついばむ|Tsuibamu|Picore|Pflücker|Spennata|Picoteo|쪼아대기|Jjoadaegi|color=Flying}}
{{Langlist|move|366|Tailwind|おいかぜ|Oikaze|Vent Arrière|Rückenwind|Ventoincoda|Viento Afín|순풍|Sunpung|color=Flying}}
{{Langlist|move|367|Acupressure|つぼをつく|Tsubo wo Tsuku|Acupression|Akupressur|Acupressione|Acupresión|경혈찌르기|Gyeonghyeol Jjireugi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|368|Metal Burst|メタルバースト|Metal Burst|Fulmifer|Metallstoß|Metalscoppio|Represión Metal|메탈버스트|Metal Burst|color=Steel}}
{{Langlist|move|369|U-turn|とんぼがえり|Tonbogaeri|Demi-Tour|Kehrtwende|Retromarcia|Ida y Vuelta|유턴|U-turn|color=Bug}}
{{Langlist|move|370|Close Combat|インファイト|In-Fight|Close Combat|Nahkampf|Zuffa|A Bocajarro|인파이트|In-Fight|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|371|Payback|しっぺがえし|Shippegaeshi|Représailles|Gegenstoß|Rivincita|Vendetta|보복|Bobok|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|372|Assurance|ダメおし|Dame Oshi|Assurance|Gewissheit|Garanzia|Buena Baza|승부굳히기|Seungbu Gutigi|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|373|Embargo|さしおさえ|Sashiosae|Embargo|Itemsperre|Divieto|Embargo|금제|Geumje|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|374|Fling|なげつける|Nagetsukeru|Dégommage|Schleuder|Lancio|Lanzamiento|내던지기|Naedeonjigi|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|375|Psycho Shift|サイコシフト|Psycho Shift|Échange Psy|Psybann|Psicotrasfer|Psico-cambio|사이코시프트|Psycho Shift|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|376|Trump Card|きりふだ|Kirifuda|Atout|Trumpfkarte|Asso|As Oculto|마지막수단|Majimak Sudan|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|377|Heal Block|かいふくふうじ|Kaifuku Fuuji|Anti-Soin|Heilblockade|Anticura|Anticura|회복봉인|Hoebok Bong'in|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|378|Wring Out|しぼりとる|Shiboritoru|Essorage|Auswringen|Strizzata|Estrujón|쥐어짜기|Jwieojjagi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|379|Power Trick|パワートリック|Power Trick|Astuce Force|Krafttrick|Ingannoforza|Truco Fuerza|파워트릭|Power Trick|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|380|Gastro Acid|いえき|Ieki|Suc Digestif|Magensäfte|Gastroacido|Bilis|위액|Wiaek|color=Poison}}
{{Langlist|move|381|Lucky Chant|おまじない|Omajinai|Air Veinard|Beschwörung|Fortuncanto|Conjuro|주술|Jusul|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|382|Me First|さきどり|Sakidori|Moi d'Abord|Egotrip|Precedenza|Yo Primero|선취|Seonchwi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|383|Copycat|まねっこ|Manekko|Photocopie|Imitator|Copione|Copión|흉내쟁이|Hyungnaejaeng'i|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|384|Power Swap|パワースワップ|Power Swap|Permuforce|Krafttausch|Barattoforza|Cambia Fuerza|파워스웹|Power Swap|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|385|Guard Swap|ガードスワップ|Guard Swap|Permugarde|Schutztausch|Barattoscudo|Cambia Defensa|가드스웹|Guard Swap|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|386|Punishment|おしおき|Oshioki|Punition|Strafattacke|Punizione|Castigo|혼내기|Honnaegi|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|387|Last Resort|とっておき|Totteoki|Dernier Recours|Zuflucht|Ultimascelta|Última Baza|뒀다쓰기|Dwittaseugi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|388|Worry Seed|なやみのタネ|Nayami no Tane|Soucigraine|Sorgensamen|Affannoseme|Abatidoras|고민씨|Gomin Ssi|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|389|Sucker Punch|ふいうち|Fuiuchi|Coup Bas|Tiefschlag|Sbigoattacco|Golpe Bajo|기습|Giseup|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|390|Toxic Spikes|どくびし|Dokubishi|Pics Toxik|Giftspitzen|Fielepunte|Púas Tóxicas|독압정|Dok Apjeong|color=Poison}}
{{Langlist|move|391|Heart Swap|ハートスワップ|Heart Swap|Permucœur|Statustausch|Cuorbaratto|Cambia Almas|하트스웹|Heart Swap|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|392|Aqua Ring|アクアリング|Aqua Ring|Anneau Hydro|Wasserring|Acquanello|Acua Aro|아쿠아링|Aqua Ring|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|393|Magnet Rise|でんじふゆう|Denji Fuyuu|Vol Magnétik|Magnetflug|Magnetascesa|Levitón|전자부유|Jeonja Buyu|color=Electric}}
{{Langlist|move|394|Flare Blitz|フレアドライブ|Flare Drive|Boutefeu|Flammenblitz|Fuococarica|Envite Ígneo|플레어드라이브|Flare Drive|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|395|Force Palm|はっけい|Hakkei|Forte-Paume|Kraftwelle|Palmoforza|Palmeo|발경|Balgyeong|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|396|Aura Sphere|はどうだん|Hadoudan|Aurasphère|Aurasphäre|Forzasfera|Esfera Aural|파동탄|Padongtan|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|397|Rock Polish|ロックカット|Rock Cut|Poliroche|Steinpolitur|Lucidatura|Pulimento|록커트|Rock Cut|color=Rock}}
{{Langlist|move|398|Poison Jab|どくづき|Dokudzuki|Direct Toxik|Gifthieb|Velenpuntura|Puya Nociva|독찌르기|Dok Jjareugi|color=Poison}}
{{Langlist|move|399|Dark Pulse|あくのはどう|Aku no Hadou|Vibrobscur|Finsteraura|Neropulsar|Pulso Umbrío|악의파동|Ak-yi Padong|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|400|Night Slash|つじぎり|Tsujigiri|Tranche-Nuit|Nachthieb|Nottesferza|Tajo Umbrío|깜짝베기|Kkamjjakbegi|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|401|Aqua Tail|アクアテール|Aqua Tail|Hydroqueue|Nassschweif|Idrondata|Acua Cola|아쿠아테일|Aqua Tail|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|402|Seed Bomb|タネばくだん|Tane Bakudan|Canon Graine|Samenbomben|Semebomba|Bomba Germen|씨폭탄|Ssi Poktan|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|403|Air Slash|エアスラッシュ|Air Slash|Lame d'Air|Luftschnitt|Eterelama|Tajo Aéreo|에어슬래시|Air Slash|color=Flying}}
{{Langlist|move|404|X-Scissor|シザークロス|Scissor Cross|Plaie-Croix|Kreuzschere|Forbice X|Tijera X|시저크로스|Scissor Cross|color=Bug}}
{{Langlist|move|405|Bug Buzz|むしのさざめき|Mushi no Sazameki|Bourdon|Käfergebrumm|Ronzio|Zumbido|벌레의야단법석|Beolle-yi Yadanbeopseok|color=Bug}}
{{Langlist|move|406|Dragon Pulse|りゅうのはどう|Ryū no Hadō|Dracochoc|Drachenpuls|Dragopulsar|Pulso Dragón|용의파동|Yong-yi Padong|color=Dragon}}
{{Langlist|move|407|Dragon Rush|ドラゴンダイブ|Dragon Dive|Dracocharge|Drachenstoß|Dragofuria|Carga Dragón|드래곤다이브|Dragon Dive|color=Dragon}}
{{Langlist|move|408|Power Gem|パワージェム|Power Gem|Rayon Gemme|Juwelenkraft|Gemmoforza|Joya de Luz|파워젬|Power Gem|color=Rock}}
{{Langlist|move|409|Drain Punch|ドレインパンチ|Drain Punch|Vampipoing|Ableithieb|Assorbipugno|Puño Drenaje|드레인펀치|Drain Punch|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|410|Vacuum Wave|しんくうは|Shinkūha|Onde Vide|Vakuumwelle|Vuotonda|Onda Vacío|진공파|Jingongpa|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|411|Focus Blast|きあいだま|Kiai Dama|Exploforce|Fokusstoß|Focalcolpo|Onda Certera|기합구슬|Gihap Guseul|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|412|Energy Ball|エナジーボール|Energy Ball|Éco-Sphère|Energieball|Energipalla|Energibola|에너지볼|Energy Ball|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|413|Brave Bird|ブレイブバード|Brave Bird|Rapace|Sturzflug|Baldeali|Pájaro Osado|브레이브버드|Brave Bird|color=Flying}}
{{Langlist|move|414|Earth Power|だいちのちから|Daichi no Chikara|Telluriforce|Erdkräfte|Geoforza|Tierra Viva|대지의힘|Daeji-yi Him|color=Ground}}
{{Langlist|move|415|Switcheroo|すりかえ|Surikae|Passe-Passe|Wechseldich|Rapidscambio|Trapicheo|바꿔치기|Bakkweochigi|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|416|Giga Impact|ギガインパクト|Giga Impact|Giga Impact|Gigastoß|Gigaimpatto|Giga Impacto|기가임팩트|Giga Impact|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|417|Nasty Plot|わるだくみ|Waru Dakumi|Machination|Ränkeschmied|Congiura|Maquinación|나쁜음모|Nappeun Eummo|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|418|Bullet Punch|バレットパンチ|Bullet Punch|Pisto-Poing|Patronenhieb|Pugnoscarica|Puño Bala|불릿펀치|Bullet Punch|color=Steel}}
{{Langlist|move|419|Avalanche|ゆきなだれ|Yuki Nadare|Avalanche|Lawine|Slavina|Alud|눈사태|Nun Satae|color=Ice}}
{{Langlist|move|420|Ice Shard|こおりのつぶて|Koori no Tsubute|Éclats Glace|Eissplitter|Geloscheggia|Canto Helado|얼음뭉치|Eol'eum Mungchi|color=Ice}}
{{Langlist|move|421|Shadow Claw|シャドークロー|Shadow Claw|Griffe Ombre|Dunkelklaue|Ombrartigli|Garra Umbría|섀도크루|Shadow Claw|color=Ghost}}
{{Langlist|move|422|Thunder Fang|かみなりのキバ|Kaminari no Kiba|Crocs Éclair|Donnerzahn|Fulmindenti|Colmillo Rayo|번개엄니|Beongae Eomni|color=Electric}}
{{Langlist|move|423|Ice Fang|こおりのキバ|Koori no Kiba|Crocs Givre|Eiszahn|Gelodenti|Colmillo Hielo|얼음엄니|Eol'eum Eomni|color=Ice}}
{{Langlist|move|424|Fire Fang|ほのおのキバ|Honoo no Kiba|Crocs Feu|Feuerzahn|Rogodenti|Colmillo Ígneo|불꽃엄니|Bulkkot Eomni|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|425|Shadow Sneak|かげうち|Kageuchi|Ombre Portée|Schattenstoß|Furtivombra|Sombra Vil|야습|Yaseup|color=Ghost}}
{{Langlist|move|426|Mud Bomb|どろばくだん|Doro Bakudan|Boue-Bombe|Schlammbombe|Pantanobomba|Bomba Fango|진흙폭탄|Jinheulk Poktan|color=Ground}}
{{Langlist|move|427|Psycho Cut|サイコカッター|Psycho Cutter|Coupe Psycho|Psychoklinge|Psicotaglio|Psico-corte|사이코커터|Psycho Cutter|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|428|Zen Headbutt|しねんのずつき|Shinen no Zutsuki|Psykoud'Boul|Zen-Kopfstoß|Cozzata Zen|Cabezazo Zen|사념의박치기|Sanyeom-yi Bakchigi|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|429|Mirror Shot|ミラーショット|Mirror Shot|Miroi-Tir|Spiegelsalve|Cristalcolpo|Disparo Espejo|미러숏|Mirror Shot|color=Steel}}
{{Langlist|move|430|Flash Cannon|ラスターカノン|Luster Cannon|Luminocanon|Lichtkanone|Cannonflash|Foco Resplandor|러스터캐논|Luster Cannon|color=Steel}}
{{Langlist|move|431|Rock Climb|ロッククライム|Rock Climb|Escalade|Kraxler|Scalaroccia|Treparrocas|락클라임|Rock Climb|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|432|Defog|きりばらい|Kiribarai|Anti-Brume|Auflockern|Scacciabruma|Despejar|안개제거|Rock Climb|color=Flying}}
{{Langlist|move|433|Trick Room|トリックルーム|Trick Room|Distorsion|Bizarroraum|Distortozona|Espacio Raro|트릭룸|Trick Room|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|434|Draco Meteor|りゅうせいぐん|Ryūseigun|Draco Météor|Draco Meteor|Dragobolide|Cometa Draco|용성군|Yong Seonggun|color=Dragon}}
{{Langlist|move|435|Discharge|ほうでん|Hōden|Coup d'Jus|Ladungsstoß|Scarica|Chispazo|방전|Bangjeon|color=Electric}}
{{Langlist|move|436|Lava Plume|ふんえん|Fun'en|Ébullilave|Flammensturm|Lavasbuffo|Humareda|분연|Bun'yeon|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|437|Leaf Storm|リーフストーム|Leaf Storm|Tempête Verte|Blättersturm|Verdebufera|Lluevahojas|리프스톰|Leaf Storm|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|438|Power Whip|パワーウィップ|Power Whip|Mégafouet|Blattgeißel|Vigorcolpo|Latigazo|파워휩|Power Whip|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|439|Rock Wrecker|がんせきほう|Ganseki Hō|Roc-Boulet|Felswerfer|Devastomasso|Romperrocas|암석포|Amseok Po|color=Rock}}
{{Langlist|move|440|Cross Poison|クロスポイズン|Cross Poison|Poison-Croix|Giftstreich|Velenocroce|Veneno X|크로스포이즌|Cross Poison|color=Poison}}
{{Langlist|move|441|Gunk Shot|ダストシュート|Dust Shoot|Détricanon|Mülltreffer|Sporcolancio|Lanza Mugre|더스트슈트|Dust Shoot|color=Poison}}
{{Langlist|move|442|Iron Head|アイアンヘッド|Iron Head|Tête de Fer|Eisenschädel|Metaltestata|Cabeza de Hierro|아이언헤드|Iron Head|color=Steel}}
{{Langlist|move|443|Magnet Bomb|マグネットボム|Magnet Bomb|Bombaimant|Magnetbombe|Bombagnete|Bomba Imán|마그넷봄|Magnet Bomb|color=Steel}}
{{Langlist|move|444|Stone Edge|ストーンエッジ|Stone Edge|Lame de Roc|Steinkante|Pietrataglio|Roca Afilada|스톤에지|Stone Edge|color=Rock}}
{{Langlist|move|445|Captivate|ゆうわく|Yūwaku|Séduction|Liebreiz|Incanto|Seducción|유혹|Yuhok|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|446|Stealth Rock|ステルスロック|Stealth Rock|Piège de Roc|Tarnsteine|Levitoroccia|Trampa Rocas|스텔스록|Stealth Rock|color=Rock}}
{{Langlist|move|447|Grass Knot|くさむすび|Kusa Musubi|Nœud Herbe|Strauchler|Laccioerboso|Hierba Lazo|풀묶기|Pul Mokki|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|448|Chatter|おしゃべり|Oshaberi|Babil|Geschwätz|Schiamazzo|Cháchara|수다|Suda|color=Flying}}
{{Langlist|move|449|Judgment|さばきのつぶて|Sabaki no Tsubute|Jugement|Urteilskraft|Giudizio|Sentencia|심판의뭉치|Simpan-yi Mungchi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|450|Bug Bite|むしくい|Mushi Kui|Piqûre|Käferbiss|Coleomorso|Picadura|벌레먹음|Beolle Meok'eum|color=Bug}}
{{Langlist|move|451|Charge Beam|チャージビーム|Charge Beam|Rayon Chargé|Ladestrahl|Raggioscossa|Rayo Carga|차지빔|Charge Beam|color=Electric}}
{{Langlist|move|452|Wood Hammer|ウッドハンマー|Wood Hammer|Martobois|Holzhammer|Mazzuolegno|Mazazo|우드해머|Wood Hammer|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|453|Aqua Jet|アクアジェット|Aqua Jet|Aqua-Jet|Wasserdüse|Acquagetto|Acua Jet|아쿠아제트|Aqua Jet|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|454|Attack Order|こうげきしれい|Kōgeki Shirei|Appel Attak|Schlagbefehl|Comandourto|Al Ataque|공격지령|Gonggyeok Jiryeong|color=Bug}}
{{Langlist|move|455|Defend Order|ぼうぎょしれい|Bōgyo Shirei|Appel Défense|Blockbefehl|Comandoscudo|A Defender|방어지령|Bang'eo Jiryeong|color=Bug}}
{{Langlist|move|456|Heal Order|かいふくしれい|Kaifuku Shirei|Appel Soins|Heilbefehl|Comandocura|Auxilio|회복지령|Hoebok Jiryeong|color=Bug}}
{{Langlist|move|457|Head Smash|もろはのずつき|Moroha no Zutsuki|Fracass'Tête|Kopfstoß|Zuccata|Testarazo|양날박치기|Yangnal Bakchigi|color=Rock}}
{{Langlist|move|458|Double Hit|ダブルアタック|Double Attack|Coup Double|Doppelschlag|Doppiosmash|Doble Golpe|더블어택|Double Attack|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|459|Roar of Time|ときのほうこう|Toki no Hōkō|Hurle-Temps|Zeitenlärm|Fragortempo|Distorsión|시간의포효|Sigan-yi Pohyo|color=Dragon}}
{{Langlist|move|460|Spacial Rend|あくうせつだん|Akū Setsudan|Spatio-Rift|Raumschlag|Fendispazio|Corte Vacío|공간절단|Gonggan Jeoldan|color=Dragon}}
{{Langlist|move|461|Lunar Dance|みかづきのまい|Mikadzuki no Mai|Danse-Lune|Lunartanz|Lunardanza|Danza Lunar|초승달춤|Choseungdal Chum|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|462|Crush Grip|にぎりつぶす|Nigiri Tsubusu|Presse|Quetschgriff|Sbriciolmano|Agarrón|묵사발|Moksabal|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|463|Magma Storm|マグマストーム|Magma Storm|Vortex Magma|Lavasturm|Magmaclisma|Lluvia Ígnea|마그마스톰|Magma Storm|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|464|Dark Void|ダークホール|Dark Hole|Trou Noir|Schlummerort|Vuototetro|Brecha Negra|다크홀|Dark Hole|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|465|Seed Flare|シードフレア|Seed Flare|Fulmigraine|Schocksamen|Infuriaseme|Fogonazo|시드플레어|Seed Flare|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|466|Ominous Wind|あやしいかぜ|Ayashii Kaze|Vent Mauvais|Unheilböen|Funestovento|Viento Aciago|괴상한바람|Goesanghan Baram|color=Ghost}}
{{Langlist|move|467|Shadow Force|シャドーダイブ|Shadow Dive|Revenant|Schemenkraft|Oscurotuffo|Golpe Umbrío|섀도다이브|Shadow Dive|color=Ghost}}
{{Langlist|move|468|Hone Claws|つめとぎ|Tsumetogi|Aiguisage|Klauenwetzer|Unghiaguzze|Afilagarras|손톱갈기|Sontopgalgi|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|469|Wide Guard|ワイドガード|Wide Guard|Garde Large|Rundumschutz|Bodyguard|Vastaguardia|와이드가드|Wide Guard|color=Rock}}
{{Langlist|move|470|Guard Split|ガードシェア|Guard Share|Partage Garde|Schutzteiler|Paridifesa|Isoguardia|가드셰어|Guard Share|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|471|Power Split|パワーシェア|Power Share|Partage Force|Kraftteiler|Pariattacco|Isofuerza|파워셰어|Power Share|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|472|Wonder Room|ワンダールーム|Wonder Room|Zone Étrange|Wunderraum|Mirabilzona|Zona Extraña|원더룸|Wonder Room|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|473|Psyshock|サイコショック|Psycho Shock|Choc Psy|Psychoschock|Psicoshock|Psicocarga|사이코쇼크|Psycho Shock|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|474|Venoshock|ベノムショック|Venom Shock|Choc Venin|Giftschock|Velenoshock|Cargatóxica|베놈쇼크|Venom Shock|color=Poison}}
{{Langlist|move|475|Autotomize|ボディパージ|Body Purge|Allègement|Autotomie|Sganciapesi|Aligerar|바디퍼지|Body Purge|color=Steel}}
{{Langlist|move|476|Rage Powder|いかりのこな|Ikari no Kona|Poudre Fureur|Wutpulver|Polverabbia|Polvo Ira|분노가루|Boon Noh Garu|color=Bug}}
{{Langlist|move|477|Telekinesis|テレキネシス|Telekinesis|Lévikinésie|Telekinese|Telecinesi|Telequinesis|텔레키네시스|Telekinesis|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|478|Magic Room|マジックルーム|Magic Room|Zone Magique|Magieraum|Magicozona|Zona Mágica|매직룸|Magic Room|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|479|Smack Down|うちおとす|Uchiotosu|Anti-Air|Katapult|Abbattimento|Antiaéreo|떨어뜨리기|Thula Thrigi|color=Rock}}
{{Langlist|move|480|Storm Throw|やまあらし|Yamaarashi|Yama Arashi|Bergsturm|Tempestretta|Llave Corsé|업어후리기|Ubua Hoorigi|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|481|Flame Burst|はじけるほのお|Hajikeru Honō|Rebondifeu|Funkenflug|Pirolancio|Pirotecnia|불꽃튀기기|Bulkot Twigigi|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|482|Sludge Wave|ヘドロウェーブ|Herodo Wave|Cradovague|Schlammwoge|Fangonda|Onda Tóxica|오물웨이브|Omul Wave|color=Poison}}
{{Langlist|move|483|Quiver Dance|ちょうのまい|Chō no Mai|Papillodanse|Falterreigen|Eledanza|Danza Aleteo|나비춤|Nabichum|color=Bug}}
{{Langlist|move|484|Heavy Slam|ヘビーボンバー|Heavy Bomber|Tacle Lourd|Rammboss|Pesobomba|Cuerpo Pesado|헤비봄버|Heavy Bomber|color=Steel}}
{{Langlist|move|485|Synchronoise|シンクロノイズ|Synchronoise|Synchropeine|Synchrolärm|Sincrumore|Sincrorruido|싱크로노이즈|Synchronoise|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|486|Electro Ball|エレキボール|Elec Ball|Boule Élek|Elektroball|Energisfera|Bola Voltio|일렉트릭볼|Electric Ball|color=Electric}}
{{Langlist|move|487|Soak|みずびたし|Mizubitashi|Détrempage|Überflutung|Inondazione|Anegar|물붓기|Moolbootgi|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|488|Flame Charge|ニトロチャージ|Nitro Charge|Nitrocharge|Nitroladung|Nitrocarica|Nitrocarga|니트로차지|Nitro Charge|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|489|Coil|とぐろをまく|Toguro wo Maku|Enroulement|Einrollen|Arrotola|Enrosque|똬리틀기|Thoari Thulgi|color=Poison}}
{{Langlist|move|490|Low Sweep|ローキック|Low Kick|Balayette|Fußtritt|Calciobasso|Puntapié|로킥|Low Kick|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|491|Acid Spray|アシッドボム|Acid Bomb|Bombe Acide|Säurespeier|Acidobomba|Bomba Ácida|애시드봄|Acid Bomb|color=Poison}}
{{Langlist|move|492|Foul Play|イカサマ|Ikasama|Tricherie|Schmarotzer|Ripicca|Juego Sucio|속임수|Sok Im Soo|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|493|Simple Beam|シンプルビーム|Simple Beam|Rayon Simple|Wankelstrahl|Ondisinvolta|Onda Simple|심플빔|Simple Beam|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|494|Entrainment|なかまづくり|Nakama Zukuri|Ten-danse|Zwango|Saltamicizia|Danza Amiga|동료만들기|Dongryo Mandulgi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|495|After You|おさきにどうぞ|Osaki ni Dōzo|Après Vous|Galanterie|Cortesia|Cede Paso|당신먼저|Dangshin Munjuh|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|496|Round|りんしょう|Rinshō|Chant Canon|Kanon|Coro|Canon|돌림노래|Dolrimnorae|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|497|Echoed Voice|エコーボイス|Echo Voice|Écho|Widerhall|Echeggiavoce|Eco Voz|에코보이스|Echo Voice|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|498|Chip Away|なしくずし|Nashikuzushi|Attrition|Zermürben|Insidia|Guardia Baja|객기|Gekgi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|499|Clear Smog|クリアスモッグ|Clear Smog|Bain de Smog|Klärsmog|Pulifumo|Niebla Clara|클리어스모그|Clear Smog|color=Poison}}
{{Langlist|move|500|Stored Power|アシストパワー|Assist Power|Force Ajoutée|Kraftvorrat|Veicolaforza|Poder Reserva|어시스트파워|Assist Power|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|501|Quick Guard|ファストガード|Fast Guard|Prévention|Rapidschutz|Anticipo|Anticipo|퍼스트가드|First Guard|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|502|Ally Switch|サイドチェンジ|Side Change|Interversion|Seitentausch|Cambiaposto|Cambio Banda|사이드체인지|Side Change|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|503|Scald|ねっとう|Nettō|Ébullition|Siedewasser|Idrovampata|Escaldar|열탕|Yultang|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|504|Shell Smash|からをやぶる|Kara wo Yaburu|Exuviation|Hausbruch|Gettaguscio|Rompecoraza|껍질깨기|Khupjilkhegi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|505|Heal Pulse|いやしのはどう|Iyashi no Hadō|Vibra Soin|Heilwoge|Ondasana|Pulso Cura|치유파동|Chiyu Padong|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|506|Hex|たたりめ|Tatarime|Châtiment|Bürde|Sciagura|Infortunio|병상첨병|Byongsang Chumbyung|color=Ghost}}
{{Langlist|move|507|Sky Drop|フリーフォール|Free Fall|Chute Libre|Freier Fall|Cadutalibera|Caída Libre|프리폴|Free Fall|color=Flying}}
{{Langlist|move|508|Shift Gear|ギアチェンジ|Gear Change|Changement Vitesse|Gangwechsel|Cambiomarcia|Cambio de Marcha|기어체인지|Gear Change|color=Steel}}
{{Langlist|move|509|Circle Throw|ともえなげ|Tomoenage|Projection|Überkopfwurf|Ribaltiro|Llave Giro|배대뒤치기|Baedae Duichigi|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|510|Incinerate|やきつくす|Yaki Tsukusu|Calcination|Einäschern|Bruciatutto|Calcinación|불태우기|Bultaeoogi|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|511|Quash|さきおくり|Saki Okuri|À la Queue|Verzögerung|Spintone|Último Lugar|순서미루기|Soonsau Miroogi|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|512|Acrobatics|アクロバット|Acrobat|Acrobatie|Akrobatik|Acrobazia|Acróbata|애크러뱃|Acrobat|color=Flying}}
{{Langlist|move|513|Reflect Type|ミラータイプ|Mirror Type|Copie Type|Typenspiegel|Riflettipo|Clonatipo|미러타입|Mirror Type|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|514|Retaliate|かたきうち|Katakiuchi|Vengeance|Heimzahlung|Nemesi|Represalia|원수갚기|Wonsu Gapgi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|515|Final Gambit|いのちがけ|Inochigake|Tout ou Rien|Wagemut|Azzardo|Sacrificio|목숨걸기|Moksoom Gulgi|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|516|Bestow|ギフトパス|Gift Pass|Passe-Cadeau|Offerte|Cediregalo|Ofrenda|기프트패스|Gift Pass|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|517|Inferno|れんごく|Rengoku|Feu d'Enfer|Inferno|Marchiatura|Infierno|연옥|Yeon Ok|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|518|Water Pledge|みずのちかい|Mizu no Chikai|Aire d'Eau|Wassersäulen|Acquapatto|Voto Agua|물의맹세|Mooleui Maengsae|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|519|Fire Pledge|ほのおのちかい|Honō no Chikai|Aire de Feu|Feuersäulen|Fiammapatto|Voto Fuego|불꽃의맹세|Boolkhocheui Maengsae|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|520|Grass Pledge|くさのちかい|Kusa no Chikai|Aire de Plante|Pflanzsäulen|Erbapatto|Voto Planta|풀의맹세|Pul-ui Maengsae|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|521|Volt Switch|ボルトチェンジ|Volt Change|Change Éclair|Voltwechsel|Invertivolt|Voltiocambio|볼트체인지|Volt Change|color=Electric}}
{{Langlist|move|522|Struggle Bug|むしのていこう|Mushi no Teikō|Survinsecte|Käfertrutz|Entomoblocco|Estoicismo|벌레의저항|Bulrae-eui Jauhang|color=Bug}}
{{Langlist|move|523|Bulldoze|じならし|Jinarashi|Piétisol|Dampfwalze|Battiterra|Terratemblor|땅고르기|Thang Gorugi|color=Ground}}
{{Langlist|move|524|Frost Breath|こおりのいぶき|Kōri no Ibuki|Souffle Glacé|Eisesodem|Alitogelido|Vaho Gélido|얼음숨결|Eureum Soomgyul|color=Ice}}
{{Langlist|move|525|Dragon Tail|ドラゴンテール|Dragon Tail|Draco-Queue|Drachenrute|Codadrago|Cola Dragón|드래곤테일|Dragon Tail|color=Dragon}}
{{Langlist|move|526|Work Up|ふるいたてる|Furui Tateru|Rengorgement|Kraftschub|Cuordileone|Avivar|분발|Boonbal|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|527|Electroweb|エレキネット|Elec Net|Toile Élek|Elektronetz|Elettrotela|Electrotela|일렉트릭네트|Electric Net|color=Electric}}
{{Langlist|move|528|Wild Charge|ワイルドボルト|Wild Volt|Éclair Fou|Stromstoß|Sprizzalampo|Voltio Cruel|와일드볼트|Wild Bolt|color=Electric}}
{{Langlist|move|529|Drill Run|ドリルライナー|Drill Liner|Tunnelier|Schlagbohrer|Giravvita|Taladradora|드릴라이너|Drill Liner|color=Ground}}
{{Langlist|move|530|Dual Chop|ダブルチョップ|Double Chop|Double Baffe|Doppelhieb|Doppiocolpo|Golpe Bis|더블촙|Double Chop|color=Dragon}}
{{Langlist|move|531|Heart Stamp|ハートスタンプ|Heart Stamp|Crèvecœur|Herzstempel|Cuorestampo|Arrumaco|하트스탬프|Heart Stamp|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|532|Horn Leech|ウッドホーン|Wood Horn|Encornebois|Holzgeweih|Legnicorno|Asta Drenaje|우드호른|Wood Horn|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|533|Sacred Sword|せいなるつるぎ|Seinaru Tsurugi|Lame Sainte|Sanctoklinge|Spadasolenne|Espada Santa|성스러운칼|Sungsurau-oonkal|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|534|Razor Shell|シェルブレード|Shell Blade|Coquilame|Kalkklinge|Conchilama|Concha Filo|셸블레이드|Shell Blade|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|535|Heat Crash|ヒートスタンプ|Heat Stamp|Tacle Feu|Brandstempel|Marchiafuoco|Golpe Calor|히트스탬프|Heat Stamp|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|536|Leaf Tornado|グラスミキサー|Grass Mixer|Phytomixeur|Grasmixer|Vorticerba|Ciclón de Hojas|그래스믹서|Grass Mixer|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|537|Steamroller|ハードローラー|Hard Roller|Bulldoboule|Quetschwalze|Rulloduro|Rodillo Púas|하드롤러|Hard Roller|color=Bug}}
{{Langlist|move|538|Cotton Guard|コットンガード|Cotton Guard|Cotogarde|Watteschild|Cotonscudo|Rizo Algodón|코튼가드|Cotton Guard|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|539|Night Daze|ナイトバースト|Night Burst|Explonuit|Nachtflut|Urtoscuro|Pulso Noche|나이트버스트|Night Burst|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|540|Psystrike|サイコブレイク|Psycho Break|Frappe Psy|Psychostoß|Psicobotta|Onda Mental|사이코브레이크|Psycho Break|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|541|Tail Slap|スイープビンタ|Sweep Binta|Plumo-Queue|Kehrschelle|Spazzasberla|Plumerazo|스위프뺨치기|Sweep Ppyamchigi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|542|Hurricane|ぼうふう|Bōfū|Vent Violent|Orkan|Tifone|Vendaval|폭풍|Pohkpoong|color=Flying}}
{{Langlist|move|543|Head Charge|アフロブレイク|Afro Break|Peignée|Steinschädel|Ricciolata|Ariete|아프로브레이크|Afro Break|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|544|Gear Grind|ギアソーサー|Gear Saucer|Lancécrou|Klikkdiskus|Ingracolpo|Rueda Doble|기어소서|Gear Saucer|color=Steel}}
{{Langlist|move|545|Searing Shot|かえんだん|Kaendan|Incendie|Flammenball|Sparafuoco|Bomba Ígnea|화염탄|Hwayeomtan|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|546|Techno Blast|テクノバスター|Techno Buster|TechnoBuster|Techblaster|Tecnobotto|Tecno Shock|테크노버스터|Techno Buster|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|547|Relic Song|いにしえのうた|Inishie no Uta|Chant Antique|Urgesang|Cantoantico|Canto Arcaico|옛노래|Yetnorae|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|548|Secret Sword|しんぴのつるぎ|Shinpi no Tsurugi|Lame Ouinte|Mystoschwert|Spadamistica|Sable Místico|신비의칼|Sinbi-yi Kal|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|549|Glaciate|こごえるせかい|Kogoeru Sekai|Ère Glaciaire|Eiszeit|Gelamondo|Mundo Gélido|얼다세계|Ulda-saegyae|color=Ice}}
{{Langlist|move|550|Bolt Strike|らいげき|Raigeki|Charge Foudre|Blitzschlag|Lucesiluro|Ataque Fulgor|뇌격|Nyaegyuk|color=Electric}}
{{Langlist|move|551|Blue Flare|あおいほのお|Aoi Honō|Flamme Bleue|Blauflammen|Fuocoblu|Llama Azul|푸른불꽃|Pureun Bulkkot|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|552|Fiery Dance|ほのおのまい|Honō no Mai|Danse du Feu|Feuerreigen|Voldifuoco|Danza Llama|불꽃춤|Bulkkotchum|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|553|Freeze Shock|フリーズボルト|Freeze Volt|Éclair Gelé|Frostvolt|Elettrogelo|Rayo Gélido|프리즈볼트|Freeze Volt|color=Ice}}
{{Langlist|move|554|Ice Burn|コールドフレア|Cold Flare|Feu Glacé|Frosthauch|Vampagelida|Llama Gélida|콜드플레어|Cold Flare|color=Ice}}
{{Langlist|move|555|Snarl|バークアウト|Bark Out|Aboiement|Standpauke|Urlorabbia|Alarido|바크아웃|Bark Out|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|556|Icicle Crash|つららおとし|Tsurara Otoshi|Chute Glace|Eiszapfhagel|Scagliagelo|Chuzos|고드름떨구기|Godureum Tteolgugi|color=Ice}}
{{Langlist|move|557|V-create|Ｖジェネレート|V-Generate|Coup Victoire|V-Generator|Generatore V|V de Fuego|V제너레이트|V Generate|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|558|Fusion Flare|クロスフレイム|Cross Flame|Flamme Croix|Kreuzflamme|Incrofiamma|Llama Fusión|크로스플레임|Cross Flame|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|559|Fusion Bolt|クロスサンダー|Cross Thunder|Éclair Croix|Kreuzdonner|Incrotuono|Rayo Fusión|크로스썬더|Cross Thunder|color=Electric}}
{{Langlist|move|560|Flying Press|フライングプレス|Flying Press|Flying Press|Flying Press|Schiacciatuffo|Plancha Voladora|플라잉프레스|Flying Press|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|561|Mat Block|たたみがえし|Tatami-gaeshi|Tatamigaeshi|Tatami-Schild|Ribaltappeto|Escudo Tatami|마룻바닥세워막기|Marutbadaksewomaggi|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|562|Belch|ゲップ|Geppu|Éructation|Rülpser|Rutto|Eructo|트림|Teurim|color=Poison}}
{{Langlist|move|563|Rototiller|たがやす|Tagayasu|Fertilisation|Pflüger|Aracampo|Fertilizante|일구기|Ilgugi|color=Ground}}
{{Langlist|move|564|Sticky Web|ねばねばネット|Nebaneba Net|Toile Gluante|Klebenetz|Rete Vischiosa|Red Viscosa|끈적끈적네트|Kkeunjeok-kkeunjeok Net|color=Bug}}
{{Langlist|move|565|Fell Stinger|とどめばり|Todome-bari|Dard Mortel|Stachelfinale|Pungiglione|Aguijón Letal|마지막일침|Majimak'il-chim|color=Bug}}
{{Langlist|move|566|Phantom Force|ゴーストダイブ|Ghost Dive|Hantise|Phantomkraft|Spettrotuffo|Golpe Fantasma|고스트다이브|Ghost Dive|color=Ghost}}
{{Langlist|move|567|Trick-or-Treat|ハロウィン|Halloween|Halloween|Halloween|Halloween|Halloween|핼러윈|Halloween|color=Ghost}}
{{Langlist|move|568|Noble Roar|おたけび|Otakebi|Râle Mâle|Kampfgebrüll|Urlo|Rugido de Guerra|부르짖기|Bureujijgi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|569|Ion Deluge|プラズマシャワー|Plasma Shower|DélugePlasma|Plasmaschauer|Pioggiaplasma|Cortina Plasma|플라스마샤워|Plasma Shower|color=Electric}}
{{Langlist|move|570|Parabolic Charge|パラボラチャージ|Parabola Charge|Parabocharge|Parabolladung|Caricaparabola|Carga Parábola|파라볼라차지|Parabola Charge|color=Electric}}
{{Langlist|move|571|Forest's Curse|もりののろい|Mori no Noroi|Maléfice Sylvain|Waldesfluch|Schiacciatuffo|Plancha Voladora|숲의저주|Sup-yi Jeoju|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|572|Petal Blizzard|はなふぶき|Hana Fubuki|Tempête Florale|Blütenwirbel|Fiortempesta|Tormenta Floral|꽃보라|Kkotbora|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|573|Freeze-Dry|フリーズドライ|Freeze Dry|Lyophilisation|Gefriertrockner|Liofilizzazione|Liofilización|프리즈드라이|Freeze Dry|color=Ice}}
{{Langlist|move|574|Disarming Voice|チャームボイス|Charm Voice|Voix Enjôleuse|Säuselstimme|Incantavoce|Voz Cautivadora|차밍보이스|Charming Voice|color=Fairy}}
{{Langlist|move|575|Parting Shot|すてゼリフ|Sute Zerifu|Dernier Mot|Abgangstirade|Monito|Última Palabra|막말내뱉기|Makmal'naebaetgi|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|576|Topsy-Turvy|ひっくりかえす|Hikkurikaesu|Renversement|Invertigo|Sottosopra|Reversión|뒤집어엎기|Dwijib'eoeopgi|color=Dark}}
{{Langlist|move|577|Draining Kiss|ドレインキッス|Drain Kiss|Vampibaiser|Diebeskuss|Assorbibacio|Beso Drenaje|드게인키스|Drain Kiss|color=Fairy}}
{{Langlist|move|578|Crafty Shield|トリックガード|Trick Guard|Vigilance|Trickschutz|Truccodifesa|Truco Defensa|트릭가드|Trick Guard|color=Fairy}}
{{Langlist|move|579|Flower Shield|フラワーガード|Flower Guard|Garde Florale|Floraschutz|Fiordifesa|Defensa Floral|플라워가드|Flower Guard|color=Fairy}}
{{Langlist|move|580|Grassy Terrain|グラスフィールド|Grass Field|Champ Herbu|Grasfeld|Campo Erboso|Campo de Hierba|그래스필드|Grass Field|color=grass}}
{{Langlist|move|581|Misty Terrain|ミストフィールド|Mist Field|Champ Brumeux|Nebelfeld|Campo Nebbioso|Campo de Niebla|미스트필드|Mist Field|color=Fairy}}
{{Langlist|move|582|Electrify|そうでん|Sōden|Électrisation|Elektrifizierung|Elettrocontagio|Electrificación|송전|Songjeon|color=Electric}}
{{Langlist|move|583|Play Rough|じゃれつく|Jaretsuku|Câlinerie|Knuddler|Carineria|Carantoña|치근거리기|Chigeungeorigi|color=Fairy}}
{{Langlist|move|584|Fairy Wind|ようせいのかぜ|Yōsei no Kaze|Vent Féérique|Feenbrise|Vento di Fata|Viento Feérico|요정의바람|Yojeong-yi Baram|color=Fairy}}
{{Langlist|move|585|Moonblast|ムーンフォース|Moon Force|Pouvoir Lunaire|Mondgewalt|Forza Lunare|Fuerza Lunar|문포스|Moon Force|color=Fairy}}
{{Langlist|move|586|Boomburst|ばくおんぱ|Bakuonpa|Bang Sonique|Überschallknall|Ondaboato|Estruendo|폭음파|Pok'eumpa|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|587|Fairy Lock|フェアリーロック|Fairy Lock|Verrou Enchanté|Feenschloss|Blocco Fatato|Cerrojo Feérico|페어리록|Fairy Lock|color=Fairy}}
{{Langlist|move|588|King's Shield|キングシールド|King Shield|Bouclier Royal|Königsschild|Scudo Reale|Escudo Real|킹실드|King Shield|color=Steel}}
{{Langlist|move|589|Play Nice|なかよくする|Nakayoku-suru|Camaraderie|Kameradschaft|Simpatia|Camaradería|친해지기|Chinhaejigi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|590|Confide|ないしょばなし|Naisho-banashi|Confidence|Vertrauenssache|Confidenza|Confidencia|비밀이야기|Bimil'iyagi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|591|Diamond Storm|ダイヤストーム|Dia Storm|Orage Adamantin|Diamantsturm|Diamantempesta|Torm. Diamantes|다이아스톰|Dia Storm|color=Rock}}
{{Langlist|move|592|Steam Eruption|スチームバースト|Steam Burst|Jet de Vapeur|Dampfschwall|Vaporscoppio|Chorro de Vapor|스팀버스트|Steam Burst|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|593|Hyperspace Hole|いじげんホール|Ijigen Hole|TrouDimensionnel|Dimensionsloch|Forodimensionale|Paso Dimensional|다른차원홀|Daleunchawon Hole|color=Psychic}}
{{Langlist|move|594|Water Shuriken|みずしゅりけん|Mizu Shuriken|Sheauriken|Wasser-Shuriken|Acqualame|Shuriken de Agua|물수리검|Mul Surigeom|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|595|Mystical Fire|マジカルフレイム|Magical Flame|Feu Ensorcelé|Magieflamme|Magifiamma|Llama Embrujada|매지컬플레임|Magical Flame|color=Fire}}
{{Langlist|move|596|Spiky Shield|ニードルガード|Needle Guard|Pico-Défense|Schutzstacheln|Agodifesa|Barrera Espinosa|니들가드|Needle Guard|color=Grass}}
{{Langlist|move|597|Aromatic Mist|アロマミスト|Aroma Mist|Brume Capiteuse|Duftwolke|Nebularoma|Niebla Aromática|아로마미스트|Aroma Mist|color=Fairy}}
{{Langlist|move|598|Eerie Impulse|かいでんぱ|Kaidenpa|Ondes Étranges|Mystowellen|Elettromistero|Onda Anómala|괴전파|Goejeonpa|color=Electric}}
{{Langlist|move|599|Venom Drench|ベノムトラップ|Venom Trap|Piège de Venin|Giftfalle|Velenotrappola|Trampa Venenosa|베놈트랩|Venom Trap|color=Poison}}
{{Langlist|move|600|Powder|ふんじん|Funjin|Nuée de Poudre|Pulverschleuder|Pulviscoppio|Polvo Explosivo|분진|Bunjin|color=Bug}}
{{Langlist|move|601|Geomancy|ジオコントロール|Geocontrol|Géo-Contrôle|Geokontrolle|Geocontrollo|Geocontrol|지오컨트롤|Geocontrol|color=Fairy}}
{{Langlist|move|602|Magnetic Flux|じばそうさ|Jiba Sōsa|Magné-Contrôle|Magnetregler|Controllo Polare|Aura Magnética|자기장조작|Jagijang Jojak|color=Electric}}
{{Langlist|move|603|Happy Hour|ハッピータイム|Happy Time|Étrennes|Goldene Zeiten|Cuccagna|Paga Extra|해피타임|Happy Time|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|604|Electric Terrain|エレキフィールド|Elec Field|Champ Électrifié|Elektrofeld|Campo Elettrico|Campo Eléctrico|일렉트릭필드|Electric Field|color=Electric}}
{{Langlist|move|605|Dazzling Gleam|マジカルシャイン|Magical Shine|Éclat Magique|Zauberschein|Magibrillio|Brillo Mágico|매지컬샤인|Magical Shine|color=Fairy}}
{{Langlist|move|606|Celebrate|おいわい|Oiwai|Célébration|Ehrentag|Auguri|Celebración|축하|Chukha|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|607|Hold Hands|てをつなぐ|Te o Tsunagu|Mains Jointes|Händchenhalten|Mano nella Mano|Manos Juntas|손에손잡기|Son-e-son Japgi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|608|Baby-Doll Eyes|つぶらなひとみ|Tsuburana Hitomi|Regard Touchant|Kulleraugen|Occhioni Teneri|Ojitos Tiernos|초롱초롱눈동자|Chorongchorong Nundongja|color=Fairy}}
{{Langlist|move|609|Nuzzle|ほっぺすりすり|Hoppe Suri Suri|Frotte-Frimousse|Wangenrubbler|Elettrococcola|Moflete Estático|볼부비부비|Bolbubibubi|color=Electric}}
{{Langlist|move|610|Hold Back|てかげん|Tekagen|Retenue|Zurückhaltung|Riguardo|Clemencia|적당히손봐주기|Jeokdanghisonbwajugi|color=Normal}}
{{Langlist|move|611|Infestation|まとわりつく|Matowaritsuku|Harcèlement|Plage|Assillo|Acoso|엉겨붙기|Eonggyeobutgi|color=Bug}}
{{Langlist|move|612|Power-Up Punch|グロウパンチ|Grow Punch|Poing Boost|Steigerungshieb|Crescipugno|Puño Incremento|그로우펀치|Glow Punch|color=Fighting}}
{{Langlist|move|613|Oblivion Wing|デスウイング|Death Wing|Mort-Ailes|Unheilsschwingen|Ali del Fato|Ala Mortífera|데스윙|Death Wing|color=Flying}}
{{Langlist|move|614|Thousand Arrows|サウザンアロー|Thousand Arrow|Myria-Flèches|Tausend Pfeile|Mille Frecce|Mil Flechas|사우전드애로|Thousand Arrow|color=Ground}}
{{Langlist|move|615|Thousand Waves|サウザンウェーブ|Thousand Wave|Myria-Vagues|Tausend Wellen|Mille Onde|Mil Temblores|사우전드웨이브|Thousand Wave|color=Ground}}
{{Langlist|move|616|Land's Wrath|グランドフォース|Ground Force|Force Chtonienne|Bodengewalt|Forza Tellurica|Fuerza Telúrica|그라운드포스|Ground Force|color=Ground}}
{{Langlist|move|617|Light of Ruin|はめつのひかり|Hametsu no Hikari|Lumière du Néant|Lux Calamitatis|Luce Nefasta|Luz Aniquiladora|파멸의빛|Pamyeol'uibich|color=Fairy}}
{{Langlist|move|618|Origin Pulse|こんげんのはどう|Kongen no Hadō|Onde Originelle|Ursprungswoge|Primopulsar|Pulso Primigenio|근원의파동|Geun'won-ui Padong|color=Water}}
{{Langlist|move|619|Precipice Blades|だんがいのつるぎ|Dangai no Tsurugi|Lame Pangéenne|Abgrundsklinge|Spade Telluriche|Filo del Abismo|단애의칼|Dan'ae-ui Kal|color=Ground}}
{{Langlist|move|620|Dragon Ascent|ガリョウテンセイ|Garyō Tensei|Draco Ascension|Zenitstürmer|Ascesa del Drago|Ascenso Draco|화룡점정|Hwaryong Jeomjeong|color=Flying}}
{{Langlist|move|621|Hyperspace Fury|いじげんラッシュ|Ijigen Rasshu|Furie Dimension|Dimensionswahn|Urtodimensionale|Cerco Dimensión|다른차원러시|Daleunchawon Reosi|color=Dark}}
|}

===Shadow moves===
{{Langlist/h|move|XD|NoKo}}
{{Langlist|move|356|Shadow Blitz|ダークアタック|Dark Attack|Assaut Noir|Cryptoknall|Ombroattacco|Vigor Oscuro}}
{{Langlist|move|357|Shadow Rush|ダークラッシュ|Dark Rush|Charge Noire|Cryptoschlag|Ombroraffica|Carga Oscura}}
{{Langlist|move|358|Shadow Break|ダークブレイク|Dark Break|Bélier Noir|Cryptohieb|Ombrospinta|Brío Oscuro}}
{{Langlist|move|359|Shadow End|ダークエンド|Dark End|Retour Noir|Cryptoretour|Fineoscuro|Fin Oscuro}}
{{Langlist|move|360|Shadow Wave|ダークウェーブ|Dark Wave|Onde Noire|Cryptowelle|Ondascura|Onda Oscura}}
{{Langlist|move|361|Shadow Rave|ダークレイブ|Dark Rave|Rage Noire|Cryptobeben|Ombrolancia|Rabia Oscura}}
{{Langlist|move|362|Shadow Storm|ダークストーム|Dark Storm|Typhon Noir|Cryptosturm|Turbinombra|Tifón Oscuro}}
{{Langlist|move|363|Shadow Fire|ダークファイア|Dark Fire|Ardeure Noire|Cryptofeuer|Fuocoscuro|Fuego Oscuro}}
{{Langlist|move|364|Shadow Bolt|ダークサンダー|Dark Thunder|Éclair Noir|Cryptoblitz|Fulminombra|Rayo Oscuro}}
{{Langlist|move|365|Shadow Chill|ダークフリーズ|Dark Freeze|Froid Noir|Cryptofrost|Gelodombra|Hielo Oscuro}}
{{Langlist|move|366|Shadow Blast|ダークブラスト|Dark Blast|Aéro Noir|Cryptostrahl|Ombrolame|Soplo Oscuro}}
{{Langlist|move|367|Shadow Sky|ダークウェザー|Dark Weather|Ciel Noir|Cryptowetter|Cieloscuro|Cielo Oscuro}}
{{Langlist|move|368|Shadow Hold|ダークホールド|Dark Hold|Blocage Noir|Cryptofessel|Retedombra|Traba Oscura}}
{{Langlist|move|369|Shadow Mist|ダークミスト|Dark Mist|Brume Noire|Cryptodunst|Nebbiascura|Bruma Oscura}}
{{Langlist|move|370|Shadow Panic|ダークパニック|Dark Panic|Folie Noire|Cryptochaos|Ombropanico|Miedo Oscuro}}
{{Langlist|move|371|Shadow Down|ダークダウン|Dark Down|Souffle Noir|Cryptobann|Declinoscuro|Ocaso Oscuro}}
{{Langlist|move|372|Shadow Shed|ダークリムーブ|Dark Remove|Percée Noire|Cryptobruch|Ombrannulla|Muda Oscura}}
{{Langlist|move|373|Shadow Half|ダークハーフ|Dark Half|Chute Noire|Cryptozorn|Iraoscura|Mitad Oscura}}
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* [[List of items in other languages]]
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* [[Nature#Specific Natures|List of Natures in other languages]]
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Professor Cozmo

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{{Incomplete|needs=More ORAS information (his work at the Space Center, role in Delta Episode) and dialogue}}
{{CharInfobox|
|color={{rock color}}
|corecolor={{rock color light}}
|bordercolor={{rock color dark}}
|name=Professor Takao Cozmo
|jname=ソライシ・タカオ博士
|tmname=Dr. Takao Soraishi
|slogan=no
|image=Professor Cozmo Sugimori.png
|size=245px
|caption=Professor Cozmo art from the {{Trading Card Game}}
|gender=Male
|age=yes
|years=40
|colors=yes
|eyes=Black
|hair=Brown
|hometown=[[Fallarbor Town]] (formerly [[Rustboro City]])
|relatives=Raizoh Cozmo (father), unnamed mother
|region=[[Hoenn]]
|trainer=yes
|trainerclass=[[Pokémon Professor]]
|game=yes
|generation={{Gen|III}}, {{Gen|VI}}
|games={{3v2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}} {{pkmn|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}} |
|leader=no
|anime=yes
|epnum=AG054
|epname=Fight for the Meteorite!
|enva=[[Sean Schemmel]]
|java=Tomohiro Nishimura
}}
'''Professor Takao Cozmo''' (Japanese: '''ソライシ・タカオ博士''' ''Dr. Takao Soraishi'') is a character in {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s|Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire}}, {{v2|Emerald}}, {{pkmn|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire|Omega Ruby, and Alpha Sapphire}}. He is a meteoriticist who lives in [[Fallarbor Town]], [[Hoenn]].

==In the games==
Professor Cozmo leaves either with [[Team Magma]]{{sup/3|R}}{{sup/3|E}}{{sup/6|OR}} or [[Team Aqua]]{{sup/3|S}}{{sup/6|AS}} for the [[Meteor Falls]], thinking that they are going to help him excavate meteors. However, the offending team steals the {{key|III|Meteorite}}, intending to use it to power their machine at [[Mt. Chimney]]. After defeating the Grunts and the team's leader{{sup/3|R}}{{sup/3|S}}{{sup/3|E}}, the player can take the Meteorite from the machine and return it to the Professor in exchange for {{TM|27|Return}}{{sup/3|R}}{{sup/3|S}}{{sup/3|E}}.

In [[Pokémon Omega Ruby and Pokémon Alpha Sapphire Special Demo Version]]'s first scenario, Takao appears in [[Mossdeep Space Center]] asking for {{ga|Brendan|Orlando}} and {{Steven}}'s help.

In [[Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire]] proper, notes in [[Sea Mauville]] reveal that Takao's father, Raizoh, was a researcher for Greater Mauville Holdings and the [[Devon Corporation]] who spent nearly all his time working, apparently causing his marriage to unravel. One of the few things Raizoh had to remind him of his son was a Hi {{p|Skitty}} doll the latter had sent to Sea Mauville. The retrieval of that doll proves to be the object of the Sea Mauville sidequest. Takao used to live in {{ci|Rustboro}}, but at some time moved, possibly to {{to|Fallarbor}}.

===Pokémon===
====Status unknown====
{| style="float:left; width: 96px"
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| {{InactivePoké|Professor Cozmo|Solrock|338Solrock.png|Rock|Psychic|size=100px|link=no}}
|}{{left clear}}

====Traded away====
{| style="float:left; width: 96px"
|-
| {{InactivePoké|Professor Cozmo|Salamence|373Salamence.png|Dragon|Flying|size=100px|link=no|fir=Shelgon}}
|}{{left clear}}

===Quotes===
===={{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}====
=====[[Meteor Falls]]=====
: ''"I... I'm <sc>Cozmo<sc>... I'm a <sc>{{pkmn|Professor}}</sc>... I usually study <sc>Meteorites</sc> in <sc>[[Fallarbor Town]]</sc>... Then some people from <sc>[[Team Magma]]</sc>''{{sup/3|R}}''/<sc>[[Team Aqua]]</sc>''{{sup/3|S}}'' made me guide them to <sc>Meteor Falls</sc>... They promised me that they would excavate <sc>Meteorites</sc> for me... But, I... <sc>Team Magma</sc>''{{sup/3|R}}''/<sc>Team Aqua</sc>''{{sup/3|S}}'' tricked me... Oh... That <sc>{{DL|List of key items in Generation III|Meteorite}}</sc>... It will never be mine now... But that <sc>Team Magma</sc>''{{sup/3|R}}''/<sc>Team Aqua</sc>''{{sup/3|S}}''... What are they going to do with that <sc>Meteorite</sc> at <sc>[[Mt. Chimney]]</sc>?"''
: ''"That <sc>Team Magma</sc>''{{sup/3|R}}''/<sc>Team Aqua</sc>''{{sup/3|S}}''... What are they going to do with that <sc>Meteorite</sc> at <sc>Mt. Chimney</sc>?"''

=====Professor Cozmo's house=====
: ''"Oh... I never should have let myself be conned into telling <sc>Team Magma</sc>''{{sup/3|R}}''/<sc>Team Aqua</sc>''{{sup/3|S}}'' where you can find <sc>Meteorites</sc>... That <sc>Meteorite</sc> from <sc>Meteor Falls</sc>... It's never going to be mine now..."''
: ''"Oh! Hah? That [[item]]... Could it be? Is it the <sc>Meteorite</sc> that <sc>Team Magma</sc>''{{sup/3|R}}''/<sc>Team Aqua</sc>''{{sup/3|S}}'' took from <sc>Meteor Falls</sc>? Please, may I have it? I'm not asking for it for free. How about in exchange for this [[TM]]?"''
:: '''No''': ''Oh, but... I'm crushed with disappointment..."''
: ''"Please, may I have that <sc>Meteorite</sc>? I'm not asking for it for free. How about in exchange for this TM?"''
:: '''Yes''': ''[[TM27|This TM]], it represents my feeling of gratitude. Please use it!"''
: ''"Oh, I can't believe it. This is really, really great! This is really going to help my research!"''

===={{game|Emerald}}====
=====[[Meteor Falls]]=====
: ''"I... I'm <sc>Cozmo<sc>... I'm a <sc>Professor</sc>... <sc>Team Magma</sc> asked me to guide them to <sc>Meteor Falls</sc>... But they tricked me. They even took my <sc>Meteorite</sc> away... And then another similar bunch, <sc>Team Aqua</sc> showed up. After that... I don't understand any of it. But that <sc>Team Magma</sc>... What are they going to do with that <sc>Meteorite</sc> at <sc>Mt. Chimney</sc>?"''
: ''"That <sc>Team Magma</sc>... What are they going to do with that <sc>Meteorite</sc> at <sc>Mt. Chimney</sc>?"''

=====Professor Cozmo's house=====
: ''"Oh... I never should have left myself be conned into telling <sc>Team Magma</sc> where you can find <sc>Meteorites</sc>... That <sc>Meteorite</sc> from <sc>Meteor Falls</sc>... It's never going to be mine now..."''
: ''"Oh! Hah? That [[item]]... Could it be? Is it the <sc>Meteorite</sc> that <sc>Team Magma</sc> took from <sc>Meteor Falls</sc>? Please, may I have it? I'm not asking for it for free. How about in exchange for this [[TM]]?"''
:: '''No''': ''Oh, but... I'm crushed with disappointment..."''
: ''"Please, may I have that <sc>Meteorite</sc>? I'm not asking for it for free. How about in exchange for this TM?"''
:: '''Yes''': ''[[TM27|This TM]], it represents my feeling of gratitude. Please use it!"''
: ''"Oh, I can't believe it. This is really, really great! This is really going to help my research!"''


====[[Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire]]====
=====Meteor Falls=====
:''"Wha-wha-wha-what?!"''
:''"Augh?!"''
:''"B-but...they...I...only..."''

=====Professor Cozmo's house=====
:''"Hah...haha... Thanks to these children, I have somehow returned."''
:''"But I need to thank you, as well. You truly saved me from disaster. I hope you'll take this TM as some small form of repayment."''

:''"Oh, welcome, welcome! Make yourself at home."''

*After the Delta Episode
:''"Oh! Why, hello again! What good fortune... I'd been thinking that if I saw you again, I would want to give you [[Mega Stone#Galladite|this]]..."''
:''"I happened to pick this up some time ago, while doing excavation at Meteor Falls. I hoped it might help you and your team along on your journey. But I'm still astounded by it all. A relationship between the Mega Stones, Key Stones, and the Meteorites... My, but new facts do come to light every day! This is what makes my research feel worthwhile! I know a man, a dear friend in the Kalos region, who has been researching Mega Evolution. We worked together a few years back here at Meteor Falls researching Meteorites. I'll have to share this information with him at once. It might propel his research forward, and help future Trainers and Pokémon. I hope it does."''

=====Letters to his father at Sea Mauville=====
;First letter
:''"Dear Daddy, How are you? Are you working really hard? I'm doing well. I'm doing all my homework, and I'm helping at home, too. Mommy's working hard and makes us dinner every night. Do you have to work this weekend? Are you going to come home? If you come home, take me to see the star show, OK? —Takao Cozmo P.S. I'm going to send you the picture I drew at the Trainers' School."''
;Second letter
:''It looked like another letter, but it's a drawing. The drawing is of a boy's face, and written next to it are the words "I love you, Daddy."''
;Third letter
:''"Dear Daddy, How are you? Are you working really hard? I was sad that you didn't come last weekend. But Mommy didn't seem so sad. She went out with her friend. I finally got the telescope that I've been wanting. It was from you, wasn't it? Thanks, Daddy. I really, really wanted it. I like looking at the sky, Daddy. When I look at the stars, I wonder if you are looking at the same stars, too. Let's look at the stars together, next time you come home. —Takao Cozmo"''
;Fourth letter
:''"Dear Daddy, How are you? You aren't working too hard, are you? You never come home anymore. I'm worried if you're OK. Mommy goes out with her friends a lot. It seems like fun, so I guess she's doing OK. The Shelgon you gave me evolved the other day. But I liked it better when it was a Shelgon and it looked like a Meteorite. Salamence was kind of a letdown, so I asked a friend to trade it for his Solrock. I'm sorry, Daddy. I know it was a present, but I think Solrock is cooler. When it gets dark tonight, I'm going to look at the stars again. I'm going to think of you when I do. —Takao Cozmo"''
;Fifth letter
:''"Dear Daddy, I was really, really happy to get to meet you the other day. It was so fun playing together again, and going to see the stat show, too, even if it was just the two of us. It was sad that Mommy couldn't go, and even more sad when you and Mommy fought that night. I'll study hard, just like you told me, and I'll be a good boy, so don't fight. But let me keep watching the stars, even if I have to do all my homework, too. When I grow up, I want to be a professor and study the stars. —Takao Cozmo"''
;Sixth letter
:''"Dear Daddy, Thanks for writing to me. I'm doing really well here, so please don't worry about me. I hope I'll see you again someday. I dream about it all the time. I brought the telescope you bought me to our new house. Please don't work too hard, Daddy. I hope you are OK. I will always, always love the stars, and I will always, always love you. —Takao Cozmo P.S. I'll give you my Hi Skitty doll. Please take care of it for me."''
;Seventh letter
:''It looked like another letter, but it's a photo. There's a little boy holding a telescope, with a woman beside him, looking bored.''

===Sprites===
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| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{rock color dark}}; background: #{{rock color light}}; width:80px; height:80px"|[[File:Scientist RSE OD.png]]
|-
|Sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby, Sapphire}}, and {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
|}

==In the anime==
[[File:Professor Cozmo.png|230px|thumb|Professor Cozmo in the anime]]
In ''[[AG054|Fight for the Meteorite!]]'', Professor Cozmo meets [[Ash Ketchum]] on [[Mt. Chimney]]. The situation from there is similar to how it is in the games.

===Voice actors===
{{vatable|color={{rock color}}|bordercolor={{rock color light}}
|ja=西村朋紘 ''Tomohiro Nishimura''
|en=[[Sean Schemmel]]
|pt_br=Tatá Guarnieri
|es_eu=Jesús Maniega}}{{left clear}}

==In the manga==
[[File:Professor Cozmo Adventures.png|thumb|180px|Professor Cozmo in Pokémon Adventures]]
[[File:Professor Cozmo AP.png|thumb|left|180px|Professor Cozmo in Ash and Pikachu]]
===In the Ash and Pikachu manga===
Professor Cozmo appeared in ''[[SP23|Two Groups Attacking! Magma VS. Aqua]]'' of the Ash and Pikachu manga.

===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===

In the Chuang Yi translation of {{chap|Ruby & Sapphire|the fourth chapter}}, he is referred to as '''Professor Starstone'''. This error is rectified when he appears in a flashback during {{chap|FireRed & LeafGreen|the fifth chapter}}.

Professor Cozmo believed [[Team Aqua]] to be noble heroes, so he assisted them with the meteorite and their device on Mt. Chimney. He was taken hostage by Team Aqua and was locked inside their headquarters shortly after their mission succeeded, and only rescued by [[Winona]] and [[Flannery]] deep in the crisis. Winona took him to the [[Pokémon Association]] airship where he was reunited with his three aides.

In the ''FireRed & LeafGreen'' chapter, it is revealed in a flashback that Cozmo found the meteor that fell from the sky which was later a part of Team Aqua's plan. He also discovered two life forms on the meteor, and passed them to [[Mossdeep Space Center]] where they were later stolen.

Cozmo returns in the {{chap|Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire}} at his [[Fallarbor Town]] base, predicting that another meteor would hit the planet in "10 days' time".

He is apparently good friends with [[Roxanne]] and was once her teacher.

==In the TCG==
This listing is of cards mentioning or featuring Professor Cozmo in the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]].

{{cardlist/header|Professor Cozmo|Trainer|char=yes}}
{{cardlist/entry|cardname={{TCG ID|EX Deoxys|Professor Cozmo's Discovery|90}}|type=Trainer|type2=Supporter|enset=EX Deoxys|enrarity=Uncommon|ennum=90/107|jpset=Clash of the Blue Sky|jprarity=Uncommon|jpnum=076/082|jpset2=Deoxys Constructed Starter Deck|jpnum2=014/015|jpset3=Rayquaza Constructed Starter Deck|jpnum3=014/015|jpsetlink4=Quick Construction Packs|jpset4=Lightning Quick Construction Pack Fighting Quick Construction Pack|jpnum4=009/015|ensetlink5=EX Trainer Kit 2|enset5=Plusle Half Deck|ennum5=10/12|enset6=EX Holon Phantoms|enrarity6=Uncommon|ennum6=89/110|jpsetlink6=Gift Box Mew • Lucario|jpset6=Mightyena Quarter Deck|jpnum6=009/015}}
{{cardlist/footer|Trainer}}

==Names==
{| style="background: #{{rock color light}}; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 3px solid #{{rock color}}"
|- style=
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|- style="background: #FFF;"
| Japanese
| ソライシ・タカオ博士 ''Dr. Takao Soraishi''
| From 空 ''sora'' (sky), 石 ''ishi'' (rock), and 高い ''takai'' (high)
|- style="background: #FFF;"
| English
| Professor Takao Cozmo
| From ''{{wp|cosmos}}''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
| English ([[Chuang Yi]])
| Prof. Starstone
| Loose translation of his Japanese name
|- style="background: #FFF;"
| French
| Prof. Hippolyte Kosmo
| From ''cosmos''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
| German
| Prof. Kevin Kosmo
| From ''cosmos''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
| Italian
| Prof. Cosimo Cosmi
| From ''cosmo'', cosmos
|- style="background: #FFF;"
| Spanish
| Profesor Ícaro Cozmo
| From ''{{wp|Icarus}}'' and ''cosmos''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
| Korean
| 공석올림박사 ''Dr. Ollim Gongseok''
| 공석 (same as 空石) means "sky rock"
|- style="background: #FFF;"
| Chinese
| 索藍斯博士/索蓝斯博士 ''Dr. Suǒlánsī''
| A loose transliteration of ''Soraishi''
|}
{{-}}

{{NPC|rock|hoenn=yes}} 
{{Ash and Pikachu characters}} 
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{{DEFAULTSORT:Cozmo, Professor}}
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[[de:Professor Kevin Kosmo]]
[[fr:Professeur Kosmo]]
[[it:Professor Cosmi]]
[[ja:ソライシ]]
[[zh:索藍斯博士]]

Dunsparce (Pokémon)

2015-02-16T16:10:03Z

Shepeedy: /* In the Pokémon Adventures manga */

{{PokémonPrevNextHead | species=Dunsparce | prev=Forretress | next=Gligar|type=normal|| prevnum=205| nextnum=207}}
{{Pokémon Infobox |
name=Dunsparce |
jname=ノコッチ |
tmname=Nokocchi |
ndex=206 |
jdex=052 |
hdex=349 |
u2dex=035 |
karea=Central |
kdex=040 |
obrow=052 |
opbrow=129 |
typebox=1 |
type1=Normal |
species=Land Snake |
height-ftin=4'11" |
height-m=1.5 |
weight-lbs=30.9 |
weight-kg=14.0 |
abilityn=d |
ability1=Serene Grace |
ability2=Run Away |
abilityd=Rattled |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Field |
eggcycles=21 |
evtotal=1 |
evhp=1 |
expyield=145 |
g4exp=125|
oldexp=75|
lv100exp=1,000,000 |
gendercode=127 |
color=Yellow |
catchrate=190 |
body=02 |
pokefordex=dunsparce |
generation=2 |
friendship=70 |
}}
'''Dunsparce''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ノコッチ''' ''Nokocchi'') is a {{type|Normal}} Pokémon.

It is not known to [[Evolution|evolve]] into or from any other Pokémon.

==Biology==
Dunsparce is a serpentine Pokémon with a primarily yellow body, blue underside, and blue-and-cream-striped back. Its head is round with a wide mouth extending under its jowls and curving up toward the middle of its face. Its chin is blue with two rounded prongs. Its eyes—round and rimmed with blue—are kept closed, revealing its cream-colored eyelids. On Dunsparce's upper back are two small, white, bird-like wings split into two sections each. Its body ends in a striped, drill-like tail. Though Dunsparce can float slightly with its wings, it avoids detection by burrowing into the ground with its tail. It lives immobile in {{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Cave Pokémon|caves}} and beneath the earth, where it makes maze-like nests.

==In the anime==
[[File:Dunsparce anime.png|thumb|left|267px|Dunsparce in the anime]]
===Major appearances===
Dunsparce made its anime debut in ''[[EP191|The Dunsparce Deception]]'', where an entire town was full of children with Dunsparce.

A Dunsparce appeared in ''[[BW131|The Path That Leads to Goodbye!]]''. {{Ash}} tried to catch it, but [[Iris's Axew]] bumped into [[Ash's Pikachu]], which led to the Dunsparce escaping.

A Dunsparce appeared in [[XY059]]. Ash tried to catch it, but then realized he didn't bring any [[Poké Ball]]s with him, thus letting the Land Snake Pokémon get away.

===Minor appearances===
A Dunsparce was seen in the wild in ''[[The Legend of Thunder!]]''.

A Dunsparce made a cameo appearance in ''[[DP001|Following a Maiden's Voyage!]]'' in {{p|Ariados}}'s web.

Another Dunsparce made a cameo in ''[[DP061|Team Shocker!]]'' doing an appeal.

A Dunsparce appeared in [[Alexa]]'s magazine in ''[[BW134|The Journalist from Another Region!]].''
{{-}}

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Johto}}
{{Animedexbody|EP191|Dunsparce|Ash's Pokédex|Dunsparce, the Land Snake Pokémon. When discovered, the Dunsparce uses its tail to burrow into the earth and evade capture.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|original|Johto}}
{{Animedexheader|Unova}}
{{Animedexbody|BW131|Dunsparce|Ash's Pokédex|Dunsparce, the Land Snake Pokémon. Dunsparce uses its tail to dig it on mazelike nest. }}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Best Wishes''|Unova}}

==In the manga==
[[File:Roseanne Dunsparce.png|thumb|110px|Dunsparce as it appears in [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
{{adv|Crystal}} and her [[Megaree|Chikorita]] captured a wild Dunsparce in ''[[PS119|A Flaaffy Kerfuffle]]'' where it along with a Flaaffy had been stranded on {{adv|Bill}}'s boat.

Much later, in {{PAV|23}}, [[Lostelle]], who has a Dunsparce, faxed [[Bill]] and informs him of {{adv|Deoxys}}'s rampage and {{adv|Giovanni}}'s subsequent appearance on [[Kin Island]].

Many volumes later, in the {{chap|Diamond & Pearl}}, [[Roseanne]] is attacked by a pack of {{p|Yanmega}} controlled by [[Mars]]. {{adv|Diamond}} told her to take refuge in the hole her Dunsparce {{m|dig|dug}}.
{{-}}

===Pokédex entries===
{{Mangadexheader}}
{{Mangadexbody|Pokémon Adventures|[[PS119]]|Whenever it's being scrutinized at or if it feels threatened, it will start drilling a hole with its tail, in an attempt to escape from underground.{{tt|*|Chuang Yi's translation}}}}
{{Mangadexfooter}}

==In the TCG==
{{main|Dunsparce (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===NPC Appearances===
[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity]]: {{mdc|Dunsparce|gti}} is a supporting character throughout the game.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex/Header|type=normal}}
{{Dex/NA|gen=II}}
{{Dex/Gen|gen=II}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Gold|entry=When spotted, this Pokémon escapes backward by furiously boring into the ground with its tail.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Silver|entry=If spotted, it escapes by burrowing with its tail. It can float just slightly using its wings.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Crystal|entry=It hides deep inside caves where no light ever reaches it and remains virtually motionless there.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Stadium 2|t=FFF|color=000|entry=When spotted, this Pokémon escapes backward by furiously boring into the ground with its tail.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen|gen=III}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Ruby|v2=Sapphire|t=FFF|t2=FFF|entry=Dunsparce has a drill for its tail. It uses this tail to burrow into the ground backwards. This Pokémon is known to make its nest in complex shapes deep under the ground.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Emerald|t=FFF|entry=Its drill-tipped tail is used to burrow into the ground backwards. This Pokémon is known to make its nest in complex shapes deep under the ground.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=FireRed|entry=If spotted, it escapes by burrowing with its tail. It can float just slightly using its wings.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=LeafGreen|entry=When spotted, this Pokémon escapes backward by furiously boring into the ground with its tail.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen|gen=IV}}
{{Dex/Entry3|v=Diamond|v2=Pearl|v3=Platinum|entry=It {{m|dig}}s into the ground with its tail and makes a mazelike nest. It can fly just a little.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=HeartGold|entry=When spotted, this Pokémon escapes backward by furiously boring into the ground with its tail.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=SoulSilver|entry=If spotted, it escapes by burrowing with its tail. It can float just slightly using its wings.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen|gen=V}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black|v2=White|t=FFF|entry=It digs into the ground with its tail and makes a mazelike nest. It can fly just a little.}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black 2|v2=White 2|t=FFF|entry=It creates mazes in dark locations. When spotted, it flees into the ground by digging with its tail.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen|gen=VI}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=X|t=FFF|entry=When spotted, this Pokémon escapes backward by furiously boring into the ground with its tail.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Y|entry=It digs into the ground with its tail and makes a mazelike nest. It can fly just a little.}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Omega Ruby|v2=Alpha Sapphire|t=FFF|t2=FFF|entry=Dunsparce has a drill for its tail. It uses this tail to burrow into the ground backward. This Pokémon is known to make its nest in complex shapes deep under the ground.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Footer}}

===Game locations===
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====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=normal
|channel=[[Mt. Snowfall]]
|trozei=[[Secret Storage 10]] Endless Level 11 Pair Trozei [[Mr. Who's Den]]
|md=[[Great Canyon]] (1F-3F) [[Wish Cave]] (43F-44F) [[Joyous Tower]] (43F-44F)
|md2=[[Foggy Forest]] (1F-5F)
|ranger3=[[Rasp Cavern]] [[Ice Temple]]
|rumble2=Cave: [[Rugged Flats]]
|mdgti=Magnagate dungeons, [[Strongest Trail]], [[Rusty Mountain]], [[Jaws of the Abyss]] (Golden Chamber), [[Cape at the Edge]], Automatically recruited after completing [[Desolate Canyon]], [[Moonlit Forest]] (Mapless Street), [[Smoking Mountain]] (Golden Chamber)
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====In events====
{{eventAvail/h|type=normal}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|GSC}}|Gotta Catch 'Em All Station! Horn Drill Dunsparce|English|United States|5|February 22 to March 14, 2002|link=List of Gotta Catch 'Em All event Pokémon#Horn Drill Dunsparce}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|GSC}}|Gotta Catch 'Em All Station! Fury Attack Dunsparce|English|United States|5|January 31 to February 6, 2003|link=List of Gotta Catch 'Em All event Pokémon#Fury Attack Dunsparce}}
|}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=normal|
HP= 100 |
Attack= 70 |
Defense=70 |
SpAtk= 65 |
SpDef= 65 |
Speed= 45 }}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|type=Normal
|Speed=2
|SpeedMax=3
|Power=3
|PowerMax=4
|Technique=1
|TechniqueMax=2
|Stamina=3
|StaminaMax=4
|Jump=4
|JumpMax=5
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{TypeEffectiveness|
type1=normal|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=200 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 0 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |
Fairy= 100 |

notes=yes|
normal=yes|
newghost=1}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh/6|Dunsparce|Normal|Normal|2|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/level6|Start|Rage|Normal|Physical|20|100|20||'''|Tough|1|3}}
{{learnlist/level6|Start|Defense Curl|Normal|Status|—|—|40|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|4|Rollout|Rock|Physical|30|90|20|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|7|Spite|Ghost|Status|—|100|10|||Tough|2|1}}
{{learnlist/level6|10|Pursuit|Dark|Physical|40|100|20|||Clever|2|1}}
{{learnlist/level6|13|Screech|Normal|Status|—|85|40|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|16|Yawn|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|19|Ancient Power|Rock|Special|60|100|5|||Tough|1|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|22|Take Down|Normal|Physical|90|85|20||'''|Tough|6|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|25|Roost|Flying|Status|—|—|10|||Clever|4|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|28|Glare|Normal|Status|—|100|30|||Tough|1|3}}
{{learnlist/level6|31|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10|||Tough|2|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|34|Double-Edge|Normal|Physical|120|100|15||'''|Tough|6|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|37|Coil|Poison|Status|—|—|20|||Tough|1|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|40|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Tough|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|43|Drill Run|Ground|Physical|80|95|10|||Tough|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|46|Endeavor|Normal|Physical|—|100|5|||Tough|2|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|49|Flail|Normal|Physical|—|100|15||'''|Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/levelf/6|Dunsparce|Normal|Normal|2}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh/6|Dunsparce|Normal|Normal|2|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM04|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|||Clever|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|60|100|15|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM13|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|90|100|10|||Beautiful|1|4}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM14|Blizzard|Ice|Special|110|70|5|||Beautiful|1|3}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM19|Roost|Flying|Status|—|—|10|||Clever|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20||'''|Cute|2|3}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM22|Solar Beam|Grass|Special|120|100|10|||Cool|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM24|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|90|100|15|||Cool|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM25|Thunder|Electric|Special|110|70|10|||Cool|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM26|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10|||Tough|2|1}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20||'''|Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM28|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10|||Tough|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM30|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15|||Clever|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|||Cool|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM35|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|90|100|15|||Beautiful|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM38|Fire Blast|Fire|Special|110|85|5|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM39|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|60|95|15|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20||'''|Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM46|Thief|Dark|Physical|60|100|25|||Tough|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15||'''|Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM57|Charge Beam|Electric|Special|50|90|10|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM59|Incinerate|Fire|Special|30|100|15|||Tough|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM67|Retaliate|Normal|Physical|70|100|5||'''|Cool|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM73|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|20|||Cool|1|3}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM74|Gyro Ball|Steel|Physical|—|100|5|||Cool|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Clever|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM78|Bulldoze|Ground|Physical|60|100|20|||Tough|2|2}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM80|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10|||Tough|2|2}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM84|Poison Jab|Poison|Physical|80|100|20|||Tough|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM85|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15|||Clever|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM88|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM93|Wild Charge|Electric|Physical|90|100|15|||Tough|6|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM94|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|{{sup/6|XY}}||Tough|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM94|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|{{sup/6|ORAS}}|'''|Clever|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM100|Confide|Normal|Status|—|—|20|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|HM04|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15||'''|Tough|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|HM06|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|{{sup/6|ORAS}}||Tough|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tmf/6|Dunsparce|Normal|Normal|2}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh/6|Dunsparce|Normal|Normal|2|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/breed6|{{MSP|025|Pikachu}}{{MSP|058|Growlithe}}{{MSP|077|Ponyta}}{{MSP|078|Rapidash}}{{MSP|083|Farfetch'd}}{{MSP|135|Jolteon}} {{MSP|190|Aipom}}{{MSP|424|Ambipom}}{{MSP|203|Girafarig}}{{MSP|215|Sneasel}}{{MSP|418|Buizel}}{{MSP|419|Floatzel}} {{MSP|427|Buneary}}{{MSP|428|Lopunny}}{{MSP|522|Blitzle}}{{MSP|523|Zebstrika}}{{MSP|570|Zorua}}{{MSP|571|Zoroark}} {{MSP|587|Emolga}}|Agility|Psychic|Status|—|—|30|||Cool|3|0}}
{{learnlist/breed6|{{MSP|206|Dunsparce}}{{MSP|221|Piloswine}}{{MSP|473|Mamoswine}}{{MSP|352|Kecleon}}|Ancient Power|Rock|Special|60|100|5|||Tough|1|0}}
{{learnlist/breed6|{{MSP|050|Diglett}}{{MSP|051|Dugtrio}}{{MSP|190|Aipom}}{{MSP|424|Ambipom}}{{MSP|203|Girafarig}}{{MSP|234|Stantler}} {{MSP|293|Whismur}}{{MSP|294|Loudred}}{{MSP|295|Exploud}}{{MSP|303|Mawile}}{{MSP|320|Wailmer}}{{MSP|321|Wailord}} {{MSP|352|Kecleon}}|Astonish|Ghost|Physical|30|100|15|||Cute|2|3}}
{{learnlist/breed6|{{MSP|019|Rattata}}{{MSP|020|Raticate}}{{MSP|023|Ekans}}{{MSP|024|Arbok}}{{MSP|052|Meowth}}{{MSP|053|Persian}} {{MSP|058|Growlithe}}{{MSP|059|Arcanine}}{{MSP|133|Eevee}}{{MSP|136|Flareon}}{{MSP|209|Snubbull}}{{MSP|210|Granbull}} {{MSP|228|Houndour}}{{MSP|229|Houndoom}}{{MSP|261|Poochyena}}{{MSP|262|Mightyena}}{{MSP|294|Loudred}}{{MSP|295|Exploud}} {{MSP|303|Mawile}}{{MSP|309|Electrike}}{{MSP|310|Manectric}}{{MSP|336|Seviper}}{{MSP|359|Absol}}{{MSP|403|Shinx}} {{MSP|404|Luxio}}{{MSP|405|Luxray}}{{MSP|449|Hippopotas}}{{MSP|450|Hippowdon}}{{MSP|504|Patrat}}{{MSP|505|Watchog}} {{MSP|506|Lillipup}}{{MSP|507|Herdier}}{{MSP|508|Stoutland}}{{MSP|511|Pansage}}{{MSP|513|Pansear}}{{MSP|515|Panpour}} {{MSP|551|Sandile}}{{MSP|552|Krokorok}}{{MSP|553|Krookodile}}{{MSP|650|Chespin}}{{MSP|651|Quilladin}}{{MSP|652|Chesnaught}} {{MSP|676|Furfrou}}|Bite|Dark|Physical|60|100|25|||Tough|2|3}}
{{learnlist/breed6|{{MSP|273|Seedot}}{{MSP|393|Piplup}}{{MSP|394|Prinplup}}{{MSP|395|Empoleon}}{{MSP|417|Pachirisu}}{{MSP|504|Patrat}} {{MSP|505|Watchog}}{{MSP|613|Cubchoo}}{{MSP|614|Beartic}}|Bide|Normal|Physical|—|—|10|||Tough|3|0}}
{{learnlist/breed6|{{MSP|322|Numel}}{{MSP|323|Camerupt}}{{MSP|324|Torkoal}}{{MSP|399|Bidoof}}{{MSP|400|Bibarel}}|Curse|Ghost|Status|—|—|10|||Tough|3|0}}
{{learnlist/breed6|{{MSP|086|Seel}}{{MSP|087|Dewgong}}{{MSP|209|Snubbull}}{{MSP|210|Granbull}}{{MSP|263|Zigzagoon}}{{MSP|264|Linoone}} {{MSP|399|Bidoof}}{{MSP|400|Bibarel}}{{MSP|554|Darumaka}}{{MSP|555|Darmanitan}}{{MSP|559|Scraggy}}{{MSP|560|Scrafty}} {{MSP|667|Litleo}}{{MSP|668|Pyroar}}{{MSP|676|Furfrou}}|Headbutt|Normal|Physical|70|100|15||'''|Tough|4|0}}
{{learnlist/breed6|{{MSP|037|Vulpix}}|Hex|Ghost|Special|65|100|10|||Clever|2|1}}
{{learnlist/breed6|{{MSP|325|Spoink}}{{MSP|326|Grumpig}}{{MSP|428|Lopunny}}|Magic Coat|Psychic|Status|—|—|15|||Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/breed6|{{MSP|019|Rattata}}{{MSP|020|Raticate}}{{MSP|023|Ekans}}{{MSP|024|Arbok}}{{MSP|025|Pikachu}}{{MSP|026|Raichu}} {{MSP|027|Sandshrew}}{{MSP|028|Sandslash}}{{MSP|032|Nidoran♂}}{{MSP|033|Nidorino}}{{MSP|034|Nidoking}}{{MSP|037|Vulpix}} {{MSP|038|Ninetales}}{{MSP|050|Diglett}}{{MSP|051|Dugtrio}}{{MSP|052|Meowth}}{{MSP|053|Persian}}{{MSP|054|Psyduck}} {{MSP|055|Golduck}}{{MSP|056|Mankey}}{{MSP|057|Primeape}}{{MSP|058|Growlithe}}{{MSP|059|Arcanine}}{{MSP|077|Ponyta}} {{MSP|078|Rapidash}}{{MSP|083|Farfetch'd}}{{MSP|086|Seel}}{{MSP|087|Dewgong}}{{MSP|111|Rhyhorn}}{{MSP|112|Rhydon}} {{MSP|464|Rhyperior}}{{MSP|128|Tauros}}{{MSP|133|Eevee}}{{MSP|134|Vaporeon}}{{MSP|135|Jolteon}}{{MSP|136|Flareon}} {{MSP|196|Espeon}}{{MSP|197|Umbreon}}{{MSP|470|Leafeon}}{{MSP|471|Glaceon}}{{MSP|155|Cyndaquil}}{{MSP|156|Quilava}} {{MSP|157|Typhlosion}}{{MSP|161|Sentret}}{{MSP|162|Furret}}{{MSP|179|Mareep}}{{MSP|180|Flaaffy}}{{MSP|181|Ampharos}} {{MSP|194|Wooper}}{{MSP|195|Quagsire}}{{MSP|190|Aipom}}{{MSP|424|Ambipom}}{{MSP|203|Girafarig}}{{MSP|206|Dunsparce}} {{MSP|209|Snubbull}}{{MSP|210|Granbull}}{{MSP|215|Sneasel}}{{MSP|461|Weavile}}{{MSP|216|Teddiursa}}{{MSP|217|Ursaring}} {{MSP|220|Swinub}}{{MSP|221|Piloswine}}{{MSP|473|Mamoswine}}{{MSP|225|Delibird}}{{MSP|228|Houndour}}{{MSP|229|Houndoom}} {{MSP|231|Phanpy}}{{MSP|232|Donphan}}{{MSP|234|Stantler}}{{MSP|255|Torchic}}{{MSP|256|Combusken}}{{MSP|257|Blaziken}} {{MSP|261|Poochyena}}{{MSP|262|Mightyena}}{{MSP|263|Zigzagoon}}{{MSP|264|Linoone}}{{MSP|273|Seedot}}{{MSP|274|Nuzleaf}} {{MSP|275|Shiftry}}{{MSP|287|Slakoth}}{{MSP|288|Vigoroth}}{{MSP|289|Slaking}}{{MSP|293|Whismur}}{{MSP|294|Loudred}} {{MSP|295|Exploud}}{{MSP|300|Skitty}}{{MSP|301|Delcatty}}{{MSP|303|Mawile}}{{MSP|309|Electrike}}{{MSP|310|Manectric}} {{MSP|320|Wailmer}}{{MSP|321|Wailord}}{{MSP|322|Numel}}{{MSP|323|Camerupt}}{{MSP|324|Torkoal}}{{MSP|325|Spoink}} {{MSP|326|Grumpig}}{{MSP|327|Spinda}}{{MSP|335|Zangoose}}{{MSP|336|Seviper}}{{MSP|352|Kecleon}}{{MSP|359|Absol}} {{MSP|363|Spheal}}{{MSP|364|Sealeo}}{{MSP|365|Walrein}}{{MSP|390|Chimchar}}{{MSP|391|Monferno}}{{MSP|392|Infernape}} {{MSP|393|Piplup}}{{MSP|394|Prinplup}}{{MSP|395|Empoleon}}{{MSP|399|Bidoof}}{{MSP|400|Bibarel}}{{MSP|403|Shinx}} {{MSP|404|Luxio}}{{MSP|405|Luxray}}{{MSP|417|Pachirisu}}{{MSP|418|Buizel}}{{MSP|419|Floatzel}}{{MSP|427|Buneary}} {{MSP|428|Lopunny}}{{MSP|431|Glameow}}{{MSP|432|Purugly}}{{MSP|434|Stunky}}{{MSP|435|Skuntank}}{{MSP|448|Lucario}} {{MSP|449|Hippopotas}}{{MSP|450|Hippowdon}}|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|‡|'''|Clever|1|0}}
{{learnlist/breed6|{{MSP|293|Whismur}}{{MSP|294|Loudred}}{{MSP|295|Exploud}}|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/breed6|{{MSP|216|Teddiursa}}{{MSP|217|Ursaring}}{{MSP|325|Spoink}}{{MSP|326|Grumpig}}{{MSP|363|Spheal}}{{MSP|364|Sealeo}} {{MSP|365|Walrein}}{{MSP|702|Dedenne}}|Snore|Normal|Special|50|100|15||'''|Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/breed6|{{MSP|133|Eevee}}|Trump Card|Normal|Special|—|—|5||'''|Cool|1|0}}
{{learnlist/breedf/6|Dunsparce|Normal|Normal|2}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh/6|Dunsparce|Normal|Normal|2|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Aqua Tail|Water|Physical|90|90|10|||no|yes|Beautiful|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Bind|Normal|Physical|15|85|20||'''|no|yes|Tough|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Drill Run|Ground|Physical|80|95|10|||no|yes|Tough|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Endeavor|Normal|Physical|—|100|5|||no|yes|Tough|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|100|75|15|||no|yes|Cool|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Last Resort|Normal|Physical|140|100|5||'''|no|yes|Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Magic Coat|Psychic|Status|—|—|15|||no|yes|Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Pain Split|Normal|Status|—|—|20|||no|yes|Clever|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Shock Wave|Electric|Special|60|—|20|||no|yes|Cool|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Snore|Normal|Special|50|100|15||'''|no|yes|Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Spite|Ghost|Status|—|100|10|||no|yes|Tough|2|1}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Stealth Rock|Rock|Status|—|—|20|||no|yes|Cool|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20|||no|yes|Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15|||no|yes|Clever|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutorf/6|Dunsparce|Normal|Normal|2}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=normal |
ndex=206 |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Common |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=7.6 |
area=Echo Cave |
P1=Please, don't look at me like that. It makes me very self-conscious. |
P2=Oh, please don't say so. Half my HP is already gone? |
P3=I give up... I don't have the energy to even flee... |
PL=Leveled up! Oh, but please don't look... It isn't very nice. |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=6.4 |
iq=A |
Ranger3=yes |
group3=Normal |
assist3=Normal |
field3=Crush |
field3power=1 |
browser3=It lets loose shock waves to attack. |
rumble2=yes|
rumble2attack=2|
rumble2defense=3|
rumble2speed=3|
}}

===Evolution===
{{Evobox-1
|type1=Normal
|pictype=art
|no1=206
|name1=Dunsparce
|type1-1=Normal}}

===Sprites===
{{Spritebox/Header|type=normal}}
{{Spritebox/NA|gen=II}}
{{Spritebox/2|ndex=206}}
{{Spritebox/3|ndex=206}}
{{Spritebox/4|ndex=206}}
{{Spritebox/5|ndex=206}}
{{Spritebox/6|ndex=206}}
{{Spritebox/Footer|206|Dunsparce}}

==Trivia==
* In the anime, Dunsparce is usually shown to be much shorter than {{tt|4'11"|1.2 meters}}, which is its listed height (or in this case, length) in the games.
** It is also shown as much smaller than its listed height in [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity]], being even smaller than {{p|Pikachu}}.
* Dunsparce was designed by [[Hironobu Yoshida]].

===Origin===
Dunsparce is based on the mythical {{wp|Tsuchinoko}}, a serpentine {{wp|cryptid}} of Japan. Similar to Bigfoot or the Chupacabra, sightings and reports appear in Japanese media; however, hard evidence is always lacking. Tsuchinoko are 30 cm to 80 cm long, with a large head and poisonous fangs. Its body is thicker than its head and tail. The noises it makes resemble squeaks, chirps and snores. Unlike real snakes, which slither from side to side, a Tsuchinoko wiggles ahead in a straight line. The Tsuchinoko curls its body to leap through the air. Moreover, the fact that Dunsparce, a {{wp|snake}}-like creature, has wings also brings to mind the motif of the {{wp|Feathered Serpent}}, a prominent deity or supernatural being in many Mesoamerican religions. In addition, Dunsparce shares some traits with {{wp|bumblebee}}s, including their stripes, tiny wings, stinger-like tail, and the fact that they burrow into the ground. This may be a visual pun inspired by the name "bachi hebi" (literally "bee snake"), which the Tsuchinoko is also known by.

====Name origin====
Dunsparce may be a combination of ''dun'' (''grayish yellow'' or ''gloomy'') and ''sparse'' (referring to its rarity).

Nokocchi is an anagram of つちのこ ''Tsuchinoko'', a fabled snake-like creature.

==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=normal|type2=normal
|ja=ノコッチ ''Nokocchi''|jameaning=Anagram of つちのこ ''{{wp|tsuchinoko}}''
|fr=Insolourdo|frmeaning=From {{tt|''insolite''|unusual}} and {{tt|''lourdeau''|graceless}}
|es=Dunsparce|esmeaning=Same as English name
|de=Dummisel|demeaning=From {{tt|''dumm''|stupid}} and {{tt|''Meißel''|chisel}}
|it=Dunsparce|itmeaning=Same as English name
|ko=노고치 ''Nogochi''|komeaning=Transliteration of its Japanese name
|zh_cmn=土龍弟弟 / 土龙弟弟 ''Tǔlóngdìdì''|zh_cmnmeaning=From {{tt|土 ''tǔ''|earth, possibly alternate character of ''tsuchi''}}, {{tt|龍 ''lóng''|dragon}}, and {{tt|弟弟 ''dìdì''|younger brother}}
}}
 

==External links==

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[[de:Dummisel]]
[[es:Dunsparce]]
[[fr:Insolourdo]]
[[it:Dunsparce]]
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[[pl:Dunsparce]]
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[[zh:土龙弟弟]]

Rotom (Pokémon)

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{{PokémonPrevNextHead | species=Rotom | prevnum=478 | prev=Froslass | nextnum=480 | next=Uxie | type=electric | type2={{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=Ghost|1=Fire|2=Water|3=Ice|4=Flying|5=Grass}}}}
{{Pokémon Infobox |
name=Rotom |
jname=ロトム |
jtranslit=Rotomu |
tmname=Rotom |
forme=6 |
forme1=Normal |
forme2=Heat |
forme3=Wash |
forme4=Frost |
forme5=Fan |
forme6=Mow |
image2=479Rotom-Heat.png |
image3=479Rotom-Wash.png |
image4=479Rotom-Frost.png |
image5=479Rotom-Fan.png |
image6=479Rotom-Mow.png |
ndex=479 |
sdex=152 |
karea=Mountain |
kdex=068 |
typebox=6 |
type1=Electric |
type2=Ghost |
form2type1=Electric |
form2type2=Fire |
form3type1=Electric |
form3type2=Water |
form4type1=Electric |
form4type2=Ice |
form5type1=Electric |
form5type2=Flying |
form6type1=Electric |
form6type2=Grass |
species=Plasma |
height-ftin=1'00" |
height-m=0.3 |
weight-lbs=0.7 |
weight-kg=0.3 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Levitate |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Amorphous |
eggcycles=21 |
evtotal=2 |
evsa=1 |
evsp=1 |
expyield=154 |
oldexp=132 |
lv100exp=1,000,000 |
gendercode=255 |
color=Red |
catchrate=45 |
body=01 |
pokefordex=rotom{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|1=-heat|2=-wash|3=-frost|4=-fan|5=-mow}} |
generation=4 |
friendship=70 |
disptype={{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=Ghost|1=Fire|2=Water|3=Ice|4=Flying|5=Grass}} |
}}
'''Rotom''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ロトム''' ''Rotom'') is a dual-type {{2t|Electric|Ghost}} Pokémon.

While it is not known to [[Evolution|evolve]] into or from any other Pokémon, it has the ability to possess the motors of certain appliances and [[form differences#Rotom|change forms]].
*When it does not possess an appliance, it is '''Normal Rotom''', and is {{2t|Electric|Ghost}}.
*When it possesses a {{wp|microwave oven}} it becomes '''Heat Rotom''', and is {{2t|Electric|Fire}}.
*When it possesses a {{wp|washing machine}} it becomes '''Wash Rotom''', and is {{2t|Electric|Water}}.
*When it possesses a {{wp|refrigerator}} it becomes '''Frost Rotom''', and is {{2t|Electric|Ice}}.
*When it possesses an {{wp|mechanical fan|electric fan}} it becomes '''Fan Rotom''', and is {{2t|Electric|Flying}}.
*When it possesses a {{wp|lawn mower|lawnmower}} it becomes '''Mow Rotom''', and is {{2t|Electric|Grass}}.

Depending on the game, its form can be changed at will in [[Rotom's Room]] in the [[Galactic Eterna Building]], Rotom's Room in [[Silph Co.]], the store room in [[Shopping Mall Nine]], on the second floor of [[Professor Sycamore]]'s Lab in [[Lumiose City]], or in [[Professor Birch]]'s Lab in [[Littleroot Town]].

In Generation IV, it was {{2t|Electric|Ghost}} regardless of its form.

==Biology==
[[File:Brock and Rotom.png|thumb|left|Rotom transforming]]
Rotom has a body of plasma and shaped like a lightning rod. There is a whitish blue aura of electricity around it that forms lightning bolt-shaped arms. It has teeth, and its unique, blue eyes have a dividing line across them. [[DP105|As seen in the anime]], Rotom will often pull pranks on unsuspecting people.

[[File:Rotom parts.png|thumb|150px|Rotom and the appliances]]
Rotom has the ability to enter and control appliances. Starting in {{v2|Platinum}}, it also has five extra forms, each based on a household appliance, which can be accessed by possessing specific appliances. The possessed appliances are based on a {{wp|microwave oven}} (Heat Rotom), {{wp|washing machine}} (Wash Rotom), {{wp|refrigerator}} (Frost Rotom), {{wp|mechanical fan|electric fan}} (Fan Rotom), and a {{wp|lawn mower|lawnmower}} (Mow Rotom). Rotom's eyes and electric aura will change colors and it gains differently-shaped aura appendages when it changes form: red with oven mitts for Heat Rotom, blue with clothespins as Wash Rotom, purple with lightning bolts as Frost Rotom, yellow with air curls as Fan Rotom, and green with a ripped strip as Mow Rotom.
{{-}}

==In the anime==
[[File:{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|1=Heat|2=Wash|3=Frost|4=Fan|5=Mow}} Rotom anime.png|thumb|210px|{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|1=Heat|2=Wash|3=Frost|4=Fan|5=Mow}} Rotom in the anime]]
===Major appearances===
====[[Professor Oak's Rotom]]====
{{an|Professor Oak}} caught a Rotom on [[Torom Island]] in ''[[BW128|To Catch a Rotom!]]''. Rotom is a prankster, often scaring Ash by appearing over the video phone whenever he calls Professor Oak. It also appears in [[Professor Oak's lecture#XY series|Professor Oak's Holo Caster]] in the {{series|XY}}, helping Professor Oak with his explanation, and often laughing at him when he gets hurt.

====Other====

Rotom made its debut appearance in ''[[DP105|Get Your Rotom Running!]]'' in all its different forms, toying around with {{Ash}} and {{ashfr}}.

Three other Rotom appeared in ''[[BW128|To Catch a Rotom!]]'', taking on all of their different forms.

===Minor appearances===
A Rotom appeared as a plush toy in ''[[XY016|A Jolting Switcheroo!]]''.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}
{{Animedexbody|DP105|Rotom|Ash's Pokédex|Rotom, the Plasma Pokémon. Rotom plays practical jokes, which it carries out by embedding its plasma body in electronic devices.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond & Pearl''|Sinnoh}}
{{Animedexheader|Unova}}
{{Animedexbody|BW128|Rotom|Ash's Pokédex|Rotom, the Plasma Pokémon. With a body made of plasma Rotom is able to permeate various kinds of electrics devices, causing all sorts of problems.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Best Wishes''|Unova}}

==In the manga==
[[File:{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=Rotom Adventures.png|1=Heat Rotom Adventures.png|2=Wash Rotom Adventures.png|3=Frost Rotom Adventures.png|4=Fan Rotom Adventures.png|5=Mow Rotom Adventures.png}}|thumb|210px|left|{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=|1=Heat|2=Wash|3=Frost|4=Fan|5=Mow}} Rotom in Pokémon Adventures]]
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
[[File:{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=Rotom PMDP.png|1=Heat Rotom PMDP.png|2=Wash Rotom PMDP.png|3=Frost Rotom PMDP.png|4=Fan Rotom PMDP.png|5=Mow Rotom PMDP.png}}|thumb|210px|{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=|1=Heat|2=Wash|3=Frost|4=Fan|5=Mow}} Rotom in Pokémon Pocket Monsters]]

In [[Pokémon Adventures]], Rotom is a [[legendary Pokémon]]. It first appeared at the [[Old Chateau]] where it caused havoc for {{adv|Diamond}} and {{adv|Pearl}} until Diamond understood that it only wanted to return in its plasma television and led it there.

It then appeared again when Diamond and Pearl returned to the Old Chateau to try to protect it from [[Charon]]. Like in its previous appearance, Rotom caused havoc for the boys and ran away to the [[Galactic Eterna Building]] where it transformed into its 5 forms and attacked them. Eventually Diamond found out it was just trying to play with them and bonded with it. After telling Rotom of their plan to protect it, Rotom decided to join them.

During the subsequent fight against Charon and {{p|Giratina}}, Rotom initially joined the battle transforming into its five forms, then left the fighting to the other legendary Pokémon only to strike at the very last, destroying Charon's device that allowed him to control every Pokémon and thus putting an end to his evil plans.

After that, Rotom decided to stay with Diamond.

===In the Pokémon Pocket Monsters manga===
A Rotom appears in [[PMDP47]] along with all of its forms.
{{-}}

==In the TCG==
{{main|Rotom (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex/Header|type=electric|type2={{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=Ghost|1=Fire|2=Water|3=Ice|4=Flying|5=Grass}}}}
{{Dex/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Dex/Gen|gen=IV}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Diamond|v2=Pearl|entry=Its body is composed of plasma. It is known to infiltrate electronic devices and wreak havoc.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Platinum|entry=Its electric-like body can enter some kinds of machines and take control in order to make mischief.}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=HeartGold|v2=SoulSilver|entry=Research continues on this Pokémon, which could be the power source of a unique motor.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen|gen=V}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black|v2=White|t=FFF|entry=Its electric-like body can enter some kinds of machines and take control in order to make mischief.}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black 2|v2=White 2|t=FFF|entry=Its electric-like body can enter some kinds of machines and take control in order to make mischief.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen|gen=VI}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=X|t=FFF|entry=Research continues on this Pokémon, which could be the power source of a unique motor.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Y|entry=Its body is composed of plasma. It is known to infiltrate electronic devices and wreak havoc.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Omega Ruby|t=FFF|entry=Research continues on this Pokémon, which could be the power source of a unique motor.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Alpha Sapphire|t=FFF|entry=Its body is composed of plasma. It is known to infiltrate electronic devices and wreak havoc.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Footer}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability/Header|type=Electric|type2={{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=Ghost|1=Fire|2=Water|3=Ice|4=Flying|5=Grass}}}}
{{Availability/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=IV}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=Diamond|v2=Pearl|area=TV in [[Old Chateau]] (After obtaining [[National Pokédex]]){{Sup/t|N}}}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=Platinum|area=TV in [[Old Chateau]]{{Sup/t|N}}}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=HeartGold|v2=SoulSilver}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=V}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=Black|v2=White|t=FFF|area=[[Trade]] {{p|Ditto}} on {{rt|15|Unova}}}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=Black 2|v2=White 2|t=FFF|area=[[Trade]] {{p|Ditto}} on {{rt|15|Unova}} [[Unova Link|Transfer]] from {{pkmn|Dream Radar}}}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=Dream World|color={{dream color}}|area={{dwa|Spooky Manor}}}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=VI}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=X|v2=Y|t=FFF|area=[[Lost Hotel]] (Shaking trash cans){{dotw|Tu}}}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Omega Ruby|v2=Alpha Sapphire|area=[[Trade]]}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Footer}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=Electric
|type2={{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=Ghost|1=Fire|2=Water|3=Ice|4=Flying|5=Grass}}
|md2=[[Midnight Forest]] (B10-B20)
|rumble=[[Silent Forest]] [[Windy Prairie‎]] [[Rocky Cave]] [[Fiery Furnace]] [[Bright Beach]] [[Eternal Tower]]
|pokepark=[[Haunted Zone]]
|rumble2=Rotom Hideout: [[Firebreathing Mountain]] (All Forms; post ending)
}}

Rotom will not appear in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time until a rescue mission involving it has been completed. This task can be completed by using the following Wonder Mail code:
:8HTR MY9+ K6+@
:NT=M 9Q6R 38@5
:Objective: Escort Rotom to floor 4 of [[Tiny Meadow]].

====In events====
{{eventAvail/h|Language/Region|type=electric|type2={{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=Ghost|1=Fire|2=Water|3=Ice|4=Flying|5=Grass}}}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|BWB2W2}}|Pokémon Center Best Wishes Professor Oak's Rotom|Japanese|Japan|10|August 10 to September 6, 2013|link=List of local Japanese event Pokémon distributions in Generation V#Professor Oak's Rotom}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|XY}}|Tretta Rotom|All|Japan|10|October 15 to December 3, 2014|link=List of local event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Tretta Rotom}}
|}

{| width="100%" class="collapsible"
|

===Held items===
====In-game trades====
{{HeldItems
|type=Electric
|type2={{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=Ghost|1=Fire|2=Water|3=Ice|4=Flying|5=Grass}}
|bw1=Max Elixir|bw1type=Ether|bw1rar=100
|b2w21=Max Elixir|b2w21type=Ether|bw1rar=100
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
=====Normal Rotom=====
|-
|
{{BaseStats |
type=electric |
type2=ghost |
HP= 50 |
Attack= 50 |
Defense=77 |
SpAtk= 95 |
SpDef= 77 |
Speed= 91 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|1|2|3|4|5=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
=====Heat, Wash, Frost, Fan, and Mow Rotom=====
|-
|
{{BaseStats |
type=electric |
type2={{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6={{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 4}}|0=Fire|1=Water|2=Ice|3=Flying|4=Grass}}|1=Fire|2=Water|3=Ice|4=Flying|5=Grass}} |
HP= 50 |
Attack= 65 |
Defense=107 |
SpAtk= 105 |
SpDef= 107 |
Speed= 86 }}
|}

{| width="100%" class="collapsible"
|
====Pokéathlon stats====
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
=====Normal Rotom=====
|-
|
{{Pokéthlon
|type=Electric
|type2=Ghost
|Speed=3
|SpeedMax=5
|Power=2
|PowerMax=3
|Technique=3
|TechniqueMax=5
|Stamina=3
|StaminaMax=4
|Jump=4
|JumpMax=5
|}}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|1=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
=====Heat Rotom=====
|-
|
{{Pokéthlon |
type=Electric |
type2=Ghost |
Speed=3 |
SpeedMax=4 |
Power=4 |
PowerMax=4 |
Technique=3 |
TechniqueMax=4 |
Stamina=3 |
StaminaMax=4 |
Jump=4 |
JumpMax=4 |
}}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|2=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
=====Wash Rotom=====
|-
|
{{Pokéthlon |
type=Electric |
type2=Ghost |
Speed=3 |
SpeedMax=3 |
Power=3 |
PowerMax=3 |
Technique=3 |
TechniqueMax=4 |
Stamina=4 |
StaminaMax=4 |
Jump=2 |
JumpMax=4 |
}}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|3=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
=====Frost Rotom=====
|-
|
{{Pokéthlon |
type=Electric |
type2=Ghost |
Speed=3 |
SpeedMax=4 |
Power=2 |
PowerMax=3 |
Technique=4 |
TechniqueMax=5 |
Stamina=3 |
StaminaMax=3 |
Jump=3 |
JumpMax=4 |
}}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|4=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
=====Fan Rotom=====
|-
|
{{Pokéthlon |
type=Electric |
type2=Ghost |
Speed=3 |
SpeedMax=5 |
Power=3 |
PowerMax=5 |
Technique=3 |
TechniqueMax=3 |
Stamina=2 |
StaminaMax=3 |
Jump=5 |
JumpMax=5 |
}}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|5=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
=====Mow Rotom=====
|-
|
{{Pokéthlon |
type=Electric |
type2=Ghost |
Speed=3 |
SpeedMax=3 |
Power=3 |
PowerMax=3 |
Technique=5 |
TechniqueMax=5 |
Stamina=3 |
StaminaMax=4 |
Jump=2 |
JumpMax=4 |
}}
|}

{| width="100%" class="collapsible"
|

===Type effectiveness===
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
=====Normal Rotom=====
|-
|
{{TypeEffectiveness|
type1=Electric|
type2=Ghost|

Normal= 0 |
Fighting= 0 |
Flying= 50 |
Poison= 50 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 200 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=50 |
Psychic=100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 200 |
Fairy= 100|

notes=yes|
ghost=yes|
newnormal=1|
newfighting=1|
levitate=yes|
newground=2}}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|1=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
=====Heat Rotom=====
|-
|
{{TypeEffectiveness|
type1=Electric|
type2=Fire|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting= 100 |
Flying= 50 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 200 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 25 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 200 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric= 50 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |
Fairy= 50|
notes=yes|
levitate=yes|
newground=4}}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|2=collapsible|expandable}}"
|

=====Wash Rotom=====
|-
|
{{TypeEffectiveness|
type1=Electric|
type2=Water|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting= 100 |
Flying= 50 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 25 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric= 100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |
Fairy = 100|
notes=yes|
levitate=yes|
newground=2}}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|3=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
=====Frost Rotom=====
|-
|
{{TypeEffectiveness|
type1=Electric|
type2=Ice|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting= 200 |
Flying= 50 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 200 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric= 50 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |
Fairy = 100|

notes=yes|
levitate=yes|
newground=2}}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|4=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
=====Fan Rotom=====
|-
|
{{TypeEffectiveness|
type1=Electric|
type2=Flying|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting= 50 |
Flying= 50 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 200 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric= 100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |
Fairy = 100|
notes=yes|
flying=levitate|
newground=2}}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|5=collapsible|expandable}}"
|

=====Mow Rotom=====
|-
|
{{TypeEffectiveness|
type1=Electric|
type2=Grass|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting= 100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 200 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 200 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric= 25 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |
Fairy = 100|

notes=yes|
levitate=yes|
newground=1}}
|}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh/6|Rotom|Electric|{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=Ghost|1=Fire|2=Water|3=Ice|4=Flying|5=Grass}}|4|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/level6|Start|Discharge|Electric|Special|80|100|15||'''|Beautiful|2|2}}
{{learnlist/level6|Start|Charge|Electric|Status|—|—|20|||Clever|1|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|Start|Trick|Psychic|Status|—|100|10|||Clever|2|1}}
{{learnlist/level6|Start|Astonish|Ghost|Physical|30|100|15||{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6='''|''}}|Cute|2|3}}
{{learnlist/level6|Start|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|20|||Cool|1|3}}
{{learnlist/level6|Start|Thunder Shock|Electric|Special|40|100|30||'''|Cool|4|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|Start|Confuse Ray|Ghost|Status|—|100|10|||Clever|2|1}}
{{learnlist/level6|8|Uproar|Normal|Special|90|100|10|||Cute|2|1}}
{{learnlist/level6|15|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|||Cool|1|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|22|Shock Wave|Electric|Special|60|—|20||'''|Cool|2|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|29|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|60|100|5||{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6='''|''}}|Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|36|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|43|Electro Ball|Electric|Special|—|100|10||'''|Cool|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|50|Hex|Ghost|Special|65|100|10||{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6='''|''}}|Clever|2|1}}
{{learnlist/level6|57|Charge|Electric|Status|—|—|20|||Clever|1|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|64|Discharge|Electric|Special|80|100|15||'''|Beautiful|2|2}}
{{learnlist/levelf/6|Rotom|Electric|{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=Ghost|1=Fire|2=Water|3=Ice|4=Flying|5=Grass}}|4|form=yes}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh/6|Rotom|Electric|{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=Ghost|1=Fire|2=Water|3=Ice|4=Flying|5=Grass}}|4|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|60|100|15|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM16|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30|||Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|||Cute|2|3}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM24|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|90|100|15||'''|Cool|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM25|Thunder|Electric|Special|110|70|10||'''|Cool|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|||Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM30|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15||{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6='''|''}}|Clever|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|||Cool|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM33|Reflect|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|||Clever|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM46|Thief|Dark|Physical|60|100|25|||Tough|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15|||Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM57|Charge Beam|Electric|Special|50|90|10||'''|Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM61|Will-O-Wisp|Fire|Status|—|85|15|||Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM70|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20|||Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM72|Volt Switch|Electric|Special|70|100|20||'''|Cool|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM73|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|20|||Cool|1|3}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Clever|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM85|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15|||Clever|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM88|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM94|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|{{sup/6|ORAS}}||Clever|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM97|Dark Pulse|Dark|Special|80|100|15|||Cool|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM100|Confide|Normal|Status|—|—|20|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tmf/6|Rotom|Electric|{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=Ghost|1=Fire|2=Water|3=Ice|4=Flying|5=Grass}}|4|form=yes}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh/6|Rotom|Electric|{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=Ghost|1=Fire|2=Water|3=Ice|4=Flying|5=Grass}}|4|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/breed6null}}
{{learnlist/breedf/6|Rotom|Electric|{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=Ghost|1=Fire|2=Water|3=Ice|4=Flying|5=Grass}}|4|form=yes}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh/6|Rotom|Electric|{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=Ghost|1=Fire|2=Water|3=Ice|4=Flying|5=Grass}}|4|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Electroweb|Electric|Special|55|95|15||'''|no|yes|Beautiful|2|1}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Foul Play|Dark|Physical|95|100|15|||no|yes|Clever|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Pain Split|Normal|Status|—|—|20|||no|yes|Clever|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Shock Wave|Electric|Special|60|—|20||'''|no|yes|Cool|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Signal Beam|Bug|Special|75|100|15|||no|yes|Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Snatch|Dark|Status|—|—|10|||no|yes|Clever|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Snore|Normal|Special|50|100|15|||no|yes|Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Spite|Ghost|Status|—|100|10|||no|yes|Tough|2|1}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Trick|Psychic|Status|—|100|10|||no|yes|Clever|2|1}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Uproar|Normal|Special|90|100|10|||no|yes|Cute|2|1}}
{{learnlist/tutorf/6|Rotom|Electric|{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=Ghost|1=Fire|2=Water|3=Ice|4=Flying|5=Grass}}|4|form=yes}}
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====By {{pkmn2|event}}s====
{{learnlist/eventh/6|Rotom|Electric|{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=Ghost|1=Fire|2=Water|3=Ice|4=Flying|5=Grass}}|4|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/event6|{{DL|Form differences|Rotom|Form change: Normal Rotom}} (having no other moves)|Thunder Shock|Electric|Special|40|100|30||'''||Cool|4|0}}
{{learnlist/event6|{{DL|Form differences|Rotom|Form change: Heat Rotom}}|Overheat|Fire|Special|130|90|5||{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|1='''|''}}||Beautiful|6|0}}
{{learnlist/event6|{{DL|Form differences|Rotom|Form change: Wash Rotom}}|Hydro Pump|Water|Special|110|80|5||{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|2='''|''}}||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/event6|{{DL|Form differences|Rotom|Form change: Frost Rotom}}|Blizzard|Ice|Special|110|70|5||{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|3='''|''}}||Beautiful|1|3}}
{{learnlist/event6|{{DL|Form differences|Rotom|Form change: Fan Rotom}}|Air Slash|Flying|Special|75|95|15||{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|4='''|''}}||Cool|1|4}}
{{learnlist/event6|{{DL|Form differences|Rotom|Form change: Mow Rotom}}|Leaf Storm|Grass|Special|130|90|5||{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|5='''|''}}||Beautiful|6|0}}
{{learnlist/eventf/6|Rotom|Electric|{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=Ghost|1=Fire|2=Water|3=Ice|4=Flying|5=Grass}}|4|form=yes}}
|}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=electric |
type2={{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=Ghost|1=Fire|2=Water|3=Ice|4=Flying|5=Grass}} |
ndex=479 |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=-12 |
iq=G |
rumble=yes|
rumbleattack=3|
rumbledefense=3|
rumblespeed=3|
rumbleattack2=3|
rumbledefense2=5|
rumblespeed2=3|
rumble2=yes|
rumble2attack=3|
rumble2defense=3|
rumble2speed=3|
rumble2attack2=3|
rumble2defense2=5|
rumble2speed2=3|
Pad=Rotom is a Zone Keeper protecting the [[Haunted Zone]]. As the Attraction Chief of {{DL|Attractions|Rotom's Spooky Shoot-'em-Up}}, Rotom also values having fun. |
}}

===Forms===
{{Evobox/Formes
|type2-disp={{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=Ghost|1=Fire|2=Water|3=Ice|4=Flying|5=Grass}}
|sprite1=479Rotom
|name1=Rotom
|type1-1=Electric
|type2-1=Ghost
|forme=6
|forme1=Normal Rotom
|loc1=Normal
|sprite2=479Rotom-Heat
|forme2=Heat Rotom
|type1-2=Electric
|type2-2=Fire
|loc2=Microwave oven
|sprite3=479Rotom-Wash
|forme3=Wash Rotom
|type1-3=Electric
|type2-3=Water
|loc3=Washing machine
|sprite4=479Rotom-Frost
|forme4=Frost Rotom
|type1-4=Electric
|type2-4=Ice
|loc4=Refrigerator
|sprite5=479Rotom-Fan
|forme5=Fan Rotom
|type1-5=Electric
|type2-5=Flying
|loc5=Electric fan
|sprite6=479Rotom-Mow
|forme6=Mow Rotom
|type1-6=Electric
|type2-6=Grass
|loc6=Lawnmower}}

===Sprites===
{{Spritebox/Header|type=Electric|type2=Ghost}}
{{Spritebox/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Spritebox/4/6Forms|ndex=479|form1=O|form2=W|form3=R|form4=F|form5=L}}
{{Spritebox/5/6Forms|ndex=479|form1=O|form2=W|form3=R|form4=F|form5=L}}
{{Spritebox/6/6Forms|ndex=479|form1=O|form2=W|form3=R|form4=F|form5=L}}
{{Spritebox/Footer|479|Rotom}}

==Trivia==
* When Rotom is encountered in the Old Chateau in Diamond, Pearl and Platinum, the music is the same as {{pkmn2|Legendary}} encounters, although it is not classified as one. Rotom is, to date, the only non-Legendary Pokémon to do this.
* When Rotom transforms, it learns a new move in the same way that other Pokémon may learn new moves upon evolving. The move is replaced by another if Rotom possesses another object, and is deleted when Rotom transforms back to its normal form. If the only move that Rotom knows right before reverting to its original form is exclusive to its alternate form, then that move will be replaced with {{m|Thunder Shock}}.
* If Rotom transforms at the Rotom's Room in [[Silph Co.]] on HeartGold or SoulSilver, and then it is traded to a Platinum game that doesn't have the Secret Key, Rotom will arrive in its Normal Form and the transformation move will be erased.
* Rotom's alternate forms, along with {{p|Arceus}}'s forms, were the only alternate forms of a Pokémon not featured in [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky]]. However, despite being introduced a year before the game was released like Rotom, {{p|Shaymin}} and {{p|Giratina}}'s alternate forms made an appearance in the game.
* Rotom is tied with {{p|Tynamo}} as the lightest Electric-type Pokémon.

====Generation V type change====
* Rotom is only the third Pokémon to have its types changed, after {{p|Magnemite}} and {{p|Magneton}}: in Generation IV, its alternate forms shared the Electric/Ghost type combination with normal Rotom, but in Generation V, their Ghost type was exchanged for the type of their specialty move, with Heat Rotom being Electric/Fire, Wash Rotom being Electric/Water, Fan Rotom being Electric/Flying, Frost Rotom being Electric/Ice, and Mow Rotom being Electric/Grass.
** This makes Rotom the only Pokémon to have its type changed to a pre-existing type.
* No other Pokémon has the same [[type]] [[List of Pokémon with unique type combinations|combination]] as Normal, Heat, Frost, and Mow Rotom.
* Despite becoming part {{type|Flying}}, Fan Rotom retains the Ability Levitate, being the only Flying-type Pokémon with this Ability. As its Flying type already makes it immune to {{type|Ground}} moves, its Ability is effectively useless under normal conditions.
** In [[Inverse Battle]]s, Fan Rotom is still protected from Ground moves due to Levitate, making it the only Flying-type Pokémon to not be affected by Ground-type moves in these battles.
* All of Rotom's appliance forms except Mow Rotom are tied for or have the fewest weaknesses of all Pokémon of their secondary types.
* Heat Rotom is the lightest {{Type|Fire}} Pokémon.
* Wash Rotom is the lightest {{Type|Water}} Pokémon.
* Frost Rotom is the lightest {{Type|Ice}} Pokémon.
* Fan Rotom is the lightest {{Type|Flying}} Pokémon.
* Mow Rotom is the lightest {{Type|Grass}} Pokémon.

===Origin===
Rotom appears to be [[List of references to Pulseman|based on]] {{wp|Pulseman}}, who was actually designed by Pokémon designer [[Ken Sugimori]], although it may also be inspired by the unexplained phenomenon of {{wp|ball lightning}}. Its Pokédex entry brings to mind {{wp|gremlin}}s. Its possession of other objects may be based on {{wp|poltergeist}}s or {{wp|tsukumogami}}. Rotom may also be an embodiment of electronic "{{wp|magic smoke}}".

====Name origin====
Rotom is ''motor'' backwards; this may refer to the fact that motors make many appliances function, while Rotom makes them fail.

In {{game|Platinum}}, it is revealed that [[Charon]] discovered and named the first known Rotom. It appeared out of his toy robot, and he named it Rotom due to its origin.

==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=electric|type2={{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=ghost|1=fire|2=water|3=ice|4=flying|5=grass}}
|ja=ロトム ''Rotom''|jameaning=From ''motor'' spelled backwards
|de=Rotom|demeaning=Same as Japanese name
|fr=Motisma|frmeaning=From ''{{tt|moteur|engine}}'' and ''plasma''
|es=Rotom|esmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|it=Rotom|itmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|ko=로토무 ''Rotom''|komeaning=Transliteration of Japanese name
|zh_cmn=洛托姆 ''Luò Tuō Mǔ''|zh_cmnmeaning=Transliteration of Japanese name
}}
 

==External links==
{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: w}} mod 7}}|0|6=|*[http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/rotom Normal Rotom] on Smogon Pokédex (Generation IV)
* [http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/rotom Normal Rotom] on Smogon Pokédex (Generation V)}}
{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: w}} mod 7}}|1=|*[http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/rotom-h Heat Rotom] on Smogon Pokédex (Generation IV)
* [http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/rotom-h Heat Rotom] on Smogon Pokédex (Generation V)}}
{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: w}} mod 7}}|2=|*[http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/rotom-w Wash Rotom] on Smogon Pokédex (Generation IV)
* [http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/rotom-w Wash Rotom] on Smogon Pokédex (Generation V)}}
{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: w}} mod 7}}|3=|*[http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/rotom-f Frost Rotom] on Smogon Pokédex (Generation IV)
* [http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/rotom-f Frost Rotom] on Smogon Pokédex (Generation V)}}
{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: w}} mod 7}}|4=|*[http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/rotom-s Fan Rotom] on Smogon Pokédex (Generation IV)
* [http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/rotom-s Fan Rotom] on Smogon Pokédex (Generation V)}}
{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: w}} mod 7}}|5=|*[http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/rotom-c Mow Rotom] on Smogon Pokédex (Generation IV)
* [http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/rotom-c Mow Rotom] on Smogon Pokédex (Generation V)}}

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Phione (Pokémon)

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{{PokémonPrevNext |type=water | prevnum=488 | nextnum=490 | prev=Cresselia |next=Manaphy}}
{{Pokémon Infobox |
name=Phione |
jname=フィオネ |
jtranslit=Fione |
tmname=Phione |
ndex=489 |
obrow=297 |
typebox=1 |
type1=Water |
species=Sea Drifter |
height-ftin=1'04" |
height-m=0.4 |
weight-lbs=6.8 |
weight-kg=3.1 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Hydration |
egggroupn=2 |
egggroup1=Water 1 |
egggroup2=Fairy |
eggcycles=41 |
evtotal=1 |
evhp=1 |
expyield=216 |
oldexp=165 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gendercode=255 |
color=Blue |
catchrate=30 |
body= 04|
pokefordex=phione |
generation=4 |
friendship=70 |
}}
'''Phione''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese:]] '''フィオネ''' ''Phione'') is a {{type|Water}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}.

While it is not known to [[Evolution|evolve]] into or from any other Pokémon, it can only be obtained by breeding {{p|Manaphy}} or another Phione with {{p|Ditto}}.

It is a member of the {{DL|Legendary Pokémon|sea guardians}} with Manaphy.

Phione's [[#Mythical status|status]] as a [[Legendary Pokémon#Sea guardians|Mythical Pokémon]] is often disputed, with contradiction occurring even between official sources.

==Biology==
Phione is a blue Pokémon with a round head and a tiny body. Phione's head is crowned by a flotation sac with a long, ribbon-like antenna. Its mouth is small, and its eyes are large with blue sclera and gray irises. Above its eyes are two blue, circular markings connected to the eyes by a thin black line. Its long, flipper-like arms have rounded tips. Phione has a red, oval gem on its chest and a single rudimentary foot spike.

Phione inflates the sac on its head to drift in the water and search for food. When the water grows warm, it will drift in packs with other members of its species. No matter how far it has drifted, it will always return to the place where it was born.

==In the anime==
[[File:Phione Supersonic.png|thumb|250px|left|Phione in the anime]]
===Major appearances===
Multiple Phione made their debut appearance in the anime in ''[[DP113|Hold the Phione!]]'' where one was attracted to [[Dawn's Buneary]].
{{-}}

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}
{{Animedexbody|DP113|Phione|Dawn's Pokédex|Phione, the Sea Drifter Pokémon. Phione lives in warm oceans. It inflates the flotation sac on its head allowing it to float on the waves and look for {{pkmn|food}}.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond & Pearl''|Sinnoh}}

==In the manga==
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
[[File:Phione Adventures.png|thumb|right|200px|Phione in Pokémon Adventures]]
Phione made its debut in ''[[PS441|Alternate Dimension Showdown XI]]'', where it was revealed to have hatched from an Egg created by {{p|Manaphy}}.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Phione (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex/Header|type=water}}
{{Dex/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Dex/Gen|gen=IV}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Diamond|v2=Pearl|entry=A Pokémon that lives in warm seas. It inflates the flotation sac on its head to drift and search for food.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Platinum|entry=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=HeartGold|v2=SoulSilver|entry=When the water warms, they inflate the flotation sac on their heads and drift languidly on the sea in packs.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen|gen=V}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black|v2=White|t=FFF|entry=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black 2|v2=White 2|t=FFF|entry=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen|gen=VI}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=X|t=FFF|entry=When the water warms, they inflate the flotation sac on their heads and drift languidly on the sea in packs.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Y|entry=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Omega Ruby|t=fff|entry=When the water warms, they inflate the flotation sac on their heads and drift languidly on the sea in packs.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Alpha Sapphire|t=FFF|entry=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Footer}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability/Header|type=water}}
{{Availability/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=IV}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Diamond|v2=Pearl|area=[[My Pokémon Ranch]] {{pkmn|breeding|Breed}} {{p|Manaphy}}}}
{{Availability/Entry1/None|v=Platinum|area=[[My Pokémon Ranch]] (requires Platinum update, Japan only) {{pkmn|breeding|Breed}} {{p|Manaphy}}}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=HeartGold|v2=SoulSilver|area={{pkmn|breeding|Breed}} {{p|Manaphy}}}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=V}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Black|v2=White|area=[[Poké Transfer]]}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Black 2|v2=White 2|area=[[Poké Transfer]]}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=VI}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=X|v2=Y|area=[[Poké Transporter]]}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Omega Ruby|v2=Alpha Sapphire|area=[[Poké Transporter]]}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Footer}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=Water
|md2=[[Miracle Sea]] (Bottom)
|ranch=Store 250 Pokémon{{tt|*|Received in a Trade with Hayley for a Leafeon. Available for transfer to Diamond and Pearl.}}
|rumble=Ticket for releasing {{p|Lapras}} and {{p|Vaporeon}}
|ranger3=[[Canal Ruins]]
|rumble2=Beach: [[Rugged Flats]]{{tt|*|Get 20 customers}}
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=water |
HP= 80 |
Attack= 80 |
Defense=80 |
SpAtk= 80 |
SpDef= 80 |
Speed= 80 }}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon|
|type=Water
|Speed=4
|SpeedMax=5
|Power=1
|PowerMax=2
|Technique=3
|TechniqueMax=5
|Stamina=1
|StaminaMax=3
|Jump=2
|JumpMax=3
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{TypeEffectiveness|
type1=water|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |
Fairy= 100}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/level6|Start|Bubble|Water|Special|40|100|30||'''|Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|Start|Water Sport|Water|Status|—|—|15}|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|9|Charm|Fairy|Status|—|100|20|||Cute|2|1}}
{{learnlist/level6|16|Supersonic|Normal|Status|—|55|20|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|24|Bubble Beam|Water|Special|65|100|20||'''|Beautiful|2|3}}
{{learnlist/level6|31|Acid Armor|Poison|Status|—|—|20|||Tough|1|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|39|Whirlpool|Water|Special|35|85|15||'''|Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|46|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20||'''|Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|54|Aqua Ring|Water|Status|—|—|20|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|61|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10||'''|Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|69|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/levelf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM07|Hail|Ice|Status|—|—|10|||Beautiful|2|1}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|60|100|15|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM13|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|90|100|10|||Beautiful|1|4}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM14|Blizzard|Ice|Special|110|70|5|||Beautiful|1|3}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25|||Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|||Cute|2|3}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|||Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|||Cool|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15|||Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM55|Scald|Water|Special|80|100|15||'''|Tough|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM56|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Clever|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM86|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20|||Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM88|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM89|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20|||Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM94|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|{{sup/6|ORAS}}||Clever|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM99|Dazzling Gleam|Fairy|Special|80|100|10|||Beautiful|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM100|Confide|Normal|Status|—|—|20|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|HM03|Surf|Water|Special|90|100|15||'''|Beautiful|2|2}}
{{learnlist/tm6|HM05|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15||'''|Tough|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|HM07|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10|{{sup/6|ORAS}}|'''|Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tmf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/breed6null}}
{{learnlist/breedf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Bounce|Flying|Physical|85|85|5|||no|yes|Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Covet|Normal|Physical|60|100|25|||no|yes|Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Heal Bell|Normal|Status|—|—|5|||no|yes|Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20|||no|yes|Clever|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|||no|yes|Beautiful|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Knock Off|Dark|Physical|65|100|25|||no|yes|Clever|2|3}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Last Resort|Normal|Physical|140|100|5|||no|yes|Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Signal Beam|Bug|Special|75|100|15|||no|yes|Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Snore|Normal|Special|50|100|15|||no|yes|Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Uproar|Normal|Special|90|100|10|||no|yes|Cute|2|1}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20||'''|no|yes|Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tutorf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=water |
ndex=489 |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=100 |
iq=B |
Ranger3=yes |
group3=Water |
assist3=Water |
field3=Cut |
field3power=2 |
browser3=It attacks by spitting bubbles that make Pokémon Slowed. |
rumble=yes|
rumbleattack=3|
rumbledefense=3|
rumblespeed=3|
rumble2=yes|
rumble2attack=3|
rumble2defense=3|
rumble2speed=3|
}}

===Evolution===
{{Evobox
|family=Breedonly
|sprite1=489Phione
|name1=Phione
|type1-1=Water
|evotype1=None
|sprite2=490Manaphy
|name2=Manaphy
|type1-2=Water
}}

===Sprites===
{{Spritebox/Header|type=Water}}
{{Spritebox/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Spritebox/4|ndex=489}}
{{Spritebox/5|ndex=489}}
{{Spritebox/6|ndex=489}}
{{Spritebox/Footer|489|Phione}}

==Trivia==
* Phione is the only Pokémon that is obtainable by breeding a [[Legendary Pokémon#Sea guardians|Mythical Pokémon]].
* Breeding either {{p|Manaphy}} or Phione can produce a Phione Egg, but Phione is unable to evolve into Manaphy nor produce Eggs that can hatch into Manaphy.
** Consequently, Phione and Manaphy are the only {{tt|Mythical Pokémon|although Phione's Mythical status is disputed}} that can be bred.
* Phione, {{p|Nidoran♂}}, {{p|Nidoran♀}}, {{p|Illumise}} and {{p|Volbeat}} are the only Pokémon that can be obtained by breeding a Pokémon they cannot evolve into.
* Phione shares the exact same base stats with {{p|Glalie}}.
* Phione is not found in any regional Pokédex.
* If it were counted as a [[Legendary Pokémon#Sea guardians|Mythical Pokémon]], Phione would have the lowest [[base stats|base stat total]] out of all Mythical Pokémon.

===Mythical status===
Phione's status as a [[Legendary Pokémon#Sea guardians|Mythical Pokémon]] is disputed, with several pieces of evidence and even official statements often contradicting each other.

====Evidence for====
* In [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]: [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|Explorers of Time, Darkness]] and [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|Sky]], Phione has a 100% recruit rate, is never battled, and the player is not allowed to recruit more than one to their team, all of which are traits otherwise only exhibited by Legendary and Mythical Pokémon.
* Phione is banned from the {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}}, the [[Battle Subway]] and the [[Pokémon World Tournament]], a rule which typically applies only to major Legendary Pokémon and Mythical Pokémon. However, it may be due to it being available only through events.
* Phione [[List of Pokémon that do not appear in any regional Pokédex|is not found in any regional Pokédex]], a trait that is otherwise exclusive to [[Generation IV]] Legendary and Mythical Pokémon.
* In [[Pokémon Rumble Blast]], Phione can only be unlocked once a certain number of customers have shopped at the Toy Shop, a trait otherwise exclusive to Legendary and Mythical Pokémon.
* Phione was featured in Pokémon.com's 2012 [http://www.pokemon.com/powerbracket/us/ Pokémon Power Bracket], a playoff of sorts where all other Pokémon in the bracket were Legendary and Mythical Pokémon.
* The 2014 [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Details_for_international_tournament_featuring_Legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon_announced Battle of Legends] tournament allowed the use of normally banned Pokémon, which include Legendary and Mythical Pokémon and Phione; however, the latter may be normally banned due to it being available only through events.

====Evidence against====
* Phione can breed to produce another Phione; this is impossible with any other Legendary and Mythical Pokémon.
* [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver: Prima's Official Strategy Guide]] states that Phione is not Legendary.
* In [[Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs]], all Legendary Pokémon are referred to as Legendary, and all Mythical Pokémon are referred to as "rare," but Phione is neither. It is also found normally in the wild.

====Other====
* [[Pokémon.com]]'s mailbag was once asked if Phione was Legendary. The official answer was initially no, but was quickly changed to yes; the whole mailbag section has since been taken down with the restructure of Pokémon.com.
* Originally, Phione was not needed in order to complete the [[National Pokédex]], as with other Mythical Pokémon. However, beginning with [[Pokémon X and Y]], it is needed to qualify for the [[diploma]].

===Origin===
{{bulbanews|On the Origin of Species: Manaphy and Phione}}
Phione is probably based on {{wp|sea angel}}s, specifically {{wp|clione}}. Clione are remarkably popular in Japanese documentaries, especially in {{wp|Hokkaido}}, on which Sinnoh is based (this may also explain their appearance in [[Chocovine Town]]).

====Name origin====
Phione may be a combination of the final syllable of ''{{p|Manaphy}}'' and ''{{wp|clione}}'' (sea angels). Like clione, Phione is pronounced in three syllables.

==References==
<references/>

==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=water|type2=water
|ja=フィオネ ''Phione''|jameaning=From a combination of final syllable of ''{{p|Manaphy}}'' and ''clione'' (sea angels)
|de=Phione|demeaning=Same as Japanese name
|fr=Phione|frmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|es=Phione|esmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|it=Phione|itmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|ko=피오네 ''Pione''|komeaning=Transliteration of Japanese name
|zh_cmn=霏歐納 ''Fēi Ōu Nà''|zh_cmnmeaning=Transliteration of Japanese name
}}
 

==External links==

{{Legendary Pokémon}} 
{{PokémonPrevNext |type=water | prevnum=488 | nextnum=490 | prev=Cresselia |next=Manaphy}}
{{-}}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Promotion-only Pokémon]]
[[Category:Pokémon in no regional Pokédex]]

[[it:Phione]]
[[pt:Phione (pokémon)]]

[[de:Phione]]
[[es:Phione]]
[[fr:Phione]]
[[ja:フィオネ]]
[[pl:Phione]]
[[zh:霏欧纳]]

Phione (Pokémon)

2015-02-08T13:03:29Z

Shepeedy: /* Intro */

{{PokémonPrevNext |type=water | prevnum=488 | nextnum=490 | prev=Cresselia |next=Manaphy}}
{{Pokémon Infobox |
name=Phione |
jname=フィオネ |
jtranslit=Fione |
tmname=Phione |
ndex=489 |
obrow=297 |
typebox=1 |
type1=Water |
species=Sea Drifter |
height-ftin=1'04" |
height-m=0.4 |
weight-lbs=6.8 |
weight-kg=3.1 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Hydration |
egggroupn=2 |
egggroup1=Water 1 |
egggroup2=Fairy |
eggcycles=41 |
evtotal=1 |
evhp=1 |
expyield=216 |
oldexp=165 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gendercode=255 |
color=Blue |
catchrate=30 |
body= 04|
pokefordex=phione |
generation=4 |
friendship=70 |
}}
'''Phione''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese:]] '''フィオネ''' ''Phione'') is a {{type|Water}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}.

While it is not known to [[Evolution|evolve]] into or from any other Pokémon, it can only be obtained by breeding {{p|Manaphy}} or another Phione with {{p|Ditto}}.

It is a member of the {{DL|Legendary Pokémon|sea guardians}} with Manaphy.

Phione's [[#Legendary status|status]] as a [[Legendary Pokémon#Sea guardians|Mythical Pokémon]] is often disputed, with contradiction occurring even between official sources.

==Biology==
Phione is a blue Pokémon with a round head and a tiny body. Phione's head is crowned by a flotation sac with a long, ribbon-like antenna. Its mouth is small, and its eyes are large with blue sclera and gray irises. Above its eyes are two blue, circular markings connected to the eyes by a thin black line. Its long, flipper-like arms have rounded tips. Phione has a red, oval gem on its chest and a single rudimentary foot spike.

Phione inflates the sac on its head to drift in the water and search for food. When the water grows warm, it will drift in packs with other members of its species. No matter how far it has drifted, it will always return to the place where it was born.

==In the anime==
[[File:Phione Supersonic.png|thumb|250px|left|Phione in the anime]]
===Major appearances===
Multiple Phione made their debut appearance in the anime in ''[[DP113|Hold the Phione!]]'' where one was attracted to [[Dawn's Buneary]].
{{-}}

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}
{{Animedexbody|DP113|Phione|Dawn's Pokédex|Phione, the Sea Drifter Pokémon. Phione lives in warm oceans. It inflates the flotation sac on its head allowing it to float on the waves and look for {{pkmn|food}}.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond & Pearl''|Sinnoh}}

==In the manga==
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
[[File:Phione Adventures.png|thumb|right|200px|Phione in Pokémon Adventures]]
Phione made its debut in ''[[PS441|Alternate Dimension Showdown XI]]'', where it was revealed to have hatched from an Egg created by {{p|Manaphy}}.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Phione (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex/Header|type=water}}
{{Dex/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Dex/Gen|gen=IV}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Diamond|v2=Pearl|entry=A Pokémon that lives in warm seas. It inflates the flotation sac on its head to drift and search for food.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Platinum|entry=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=HeartGold|v2=SoulSilver|entry=When the water warms, they inflate the flotation sac on their heads and drift languidly on the sea in packs.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen|gen=V}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black|v2=White|t=FFF|entry=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black 2|v2=White 2|t=FFF|entry=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen|gen=VI}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=X|t=FFF|entry=When the water warms, they inflate the flotation sac on their heads and drift languidly on the sea in packs.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Y|entry=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Omega Ruby|t=fff|entry=When the water warms, they inflate the flotation sac on their heads and drift languidly on the sea in packs.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Alpha Sapphire|t=FFF|entry=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Footer}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability/Header|type=water}}
{{Availability/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=IV}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Diamond|v2=Pearl|area=[[My Pokémon Ranch]] {{pkmn|breeding|Breed}} {{p|Manaphy}}}}
{{Availability/Entry1/None|v=Platinum|area=[[My Pokémon Ranch]] (requires Platinum update, Japan only) {{pkmn|breeding|Breed}} {{p|Manaphy}}}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=HeartGold|v2=SoulSilver|area={{pkmn|breeding|Breed}} {{p|Manaphy}}}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=V}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Black|v2=White|area=[[Poké Transfer]]}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Black 2|v2=White 2|area=[[Poké Transfer]]}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=VI}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=X|v2=Y|area=[[Poké Transporter]]}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Omega Ruby|v2=Alpha Sapphire|area=[[Poké Transporter]]}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Footer}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=Water
|md2=[[Miracle Sea]] (Bottom)
|ranch=Store 250 Pokémon{{tt|*|Received in a Trade with Hayley for a Leafeon. Available for transfer to Diamond and Pearl.}}
|rumble=Ticket for releasing {{p|Lapras}} and {{p|Vaporeon}}
|ranger3=[[Canal Ruins]]
|rumble2=Beach: [[Rugged Flats]]{{tt|*|Get 20 customers}}
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=water |
HP= 80 |
Attack= 80 |
Defense=80 |
SpAtk= 80 |
SpDef= 80 |
Speed= 80 }}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon|
|type=Water
|Speed=4
|SpeedMax=5
|Power=1
|PowerMax=2
|Technique=3
|TechniqueMax=5
|Stamina=1
|StaminaMax=3
|Jump=2
|JumpMax=3
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{TypeEffectiveness|
type1=water|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |
Fairy= 100}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/level6|Start|Bubble|Water|Special|40|100|30||'''|Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|Start|Water Sport|Water|Status|—|—|15}|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|9|Charm|Fairy|Status|—|100|20|||Cute|2|1}}
{{learnlist/level6|16|Supersonic|Normal|Status|—|55|20|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|24|Bubble Beam|Water|Special|65|100|20||'''|Beautiful|2|3}}
{{learnlist/level6|31|Acid Armor|Poison|Status|—|—|20|||Tough|1|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|39|Whirlpool|Water|Special|35|85|15||'''|Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|46|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20||'''|Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|54|Aqua Ring|Water|Status|—|—|20|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|61|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10||'''|Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|69|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/levelf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM07|Hail|Ice|Status|—|—|10|||Beautiful|2|1}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|60|100|15|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM13|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|90|100|10|||Beautiful|1|4}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM14|Blizzard|Ice|Special|110|70|5|||Beautiful|1|3}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25|||Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|||Cute|2|3}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|||Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|||Cool|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15|||Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM55|Scald|Water|Special|80|100|15||'''|Tough|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM56|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Clever|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM86|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20|||Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM88|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM89|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20|||Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM94|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|{{sup/6|ORAS}}||Clever|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM99|Dazzling Gleam|Fairy|Special|80|100|10|||Beautiful|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM100|Confide|Normal|Status|—|—|20|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|HM03|Surf|Water|Special|90|100|15||'''|Beautiful|2|2}}
{{learnlist/tm6|HM05|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15||'''|Tough|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|HM07|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10|{{sup/6|ORAS}}|'''|Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tmf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/breed6null}}
{{learnlist/breedf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Bounce|Flying|Physical|85|85|5|||no|yes|Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Covet|Normal|Physical|60|100|25|||no|yes|Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Heal Bell|Normal|Status|—|—|5|||no|yes|Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20|||no|yes|Clever|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|||no|yes|Beautiful|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Knock Off|Dark|Physical|65|100|25|||no|yes|Clever|2|3}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Last Resort|Normal|Physical|140|100|5|||no|yes|Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Signal Beam|Bug|Special|75|100|15|||no|yes|Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Snore|Normal|Special|50|100|15|||no|yes|Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Uproar|Normal|Special|90|100|10|||no|yes|Cute|2|1}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20||'''|no|yes|Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tutorf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=water |
ndex=489 |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=100 |
iq=B |
Ranger3=yes |
group3=Water |
assist3=Water |
field3=Cut |
field3power=2 |
browser3=It attacks by spitting bubbles that make Pokémon Slowed. |
rumble=yes|
rumbleattack=3|
rumbledefense=3|
rumblespeed=3|
rumble2=yes|
rumble2attack=3|
rumble2defense=3|
rumble2speed=3|
}}

===Evolution===
{{Evobox
|family=Breedonly
|sprite1=489Phione
|name1=Phione
|type1-1=Water
|evotype1=None
|sprite2=490Manaphy
|name2=Manaphy
|type1-2=Water
}}

===Sprites===
{{Spritebox/Header|type=Water}}
{{Spritebox/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Spritebox/4|ndex=489}}
{{Spritebox/5|ndex=489}}
{{Spritebox/6|ndex=489}}
{{Spritebox/Footer|489|Phione}}

==Trivia==
* Phione is the only Pokémon that is obtainable by breeding a [[Legendary Pokémon#Sea guardians|Mythical Pokémon]].
* Breeding either {{p|Manaphy}} or Phione can produce a Phione Egg, but Phione is unable to evolve into Manaphy nor produce Eggs that can hatch into Manaphy.
** Consequently, Phione and Manaphy are the only {{tt|Mythical Pokémon|although Phione's Mythical status is disputed}} that can be bred.
* Phione, {{p|Nidoran♂}}, {{p|Nidoran♀}}, {{p|Illumise}} and {{p|Volbeat}} are the only Pokémon that can be obtained by breeding a Pokémon they cannot evolve into.
* Phione shares the exact same base stats with {{p|Glalie}}.
* Phione is not found in any regional Pokédex.
* If it were counted as a [[Legendary Pokémon#Sea guardians|Mythical Pokémon]], Phione would have the lowest [[base stats|base stat total]] out of all Mythical Pokémon.

===Mythical status===
Phione's status as a [[Legendary Pokémon#Sea guardians|Mythical Pokémon]] is disputed, with several pieces of evidence and even official statements often contradicting each other.

====Evidence for====
* In [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]: [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|Explorers of Time, Darkness]] and [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|Sky]], Phione has a 100% recruit rate, is never battled, and the player is not allowed to recruit more than one to their team, all of which are traits otherwise only exhibited by Legendary and Mythical Pokémon.
* Phione is banned from the {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}}, the [[Battle Subway]] and the [[Pokémon World Tournament]], a rule which typically applies only to major Legendary Pokémon and Mythical Pokémon. However, it may be due to it being available only through events.
* Phione [[List of Pokémon that do not appear in any regional Pokédex|is not found in any regional Pokédex]], a trait that is otherwise exclusive to [[Generation IV]] Legendary and Mythical Pokémon.
* In [[Pokémon Rumble Blast]], Phione can only be unlocked once a certain number of customers have shopped at the Toy Shop, a trait otherwise exclusive to Legendary and Mythical Pokémon.
* Phione was featured in Pokémon.com's 2012 [http://www.pokemon.com/powerbracket/us/ Pokémon Power Bracket], a playoff of sorts where all other Pokémon in the bracket were Legendary and Mythical Pokémon.
* The 2014 [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Details_for_international_tournament_featuring_Legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon_announced Battle of Legends] tournament allowed the use of normally banned Pokémon, which include Legendary and Mythical Pokémon and Phione; however, the latter may be normally banned due to it being available only through events.

====Evidence against====
* Phione can breed to produce another Phione; this is impossible with any other Legendary and Mythical Pokémon.
* [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver: Prima's Official Strategy Guide]] states that Phione is not Legendary.
* In [[Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs]], all Legendary Pokémon are referred to as Legendary, and all Mythical Pokémon are referred to as "rare," but Phione is neither. It is also found normally in the wild.

====Other====
* [[Pokémon.com]]'s mailbag was once asked if Phione was Legendary. The official answer was initially no, but was quickly changed to yes; the whole mailbag section has since been taken down with the restructure of Pokémon.com.
* Originally, Phione was not needed in order to complete the [[National Pokédex]], as with other Mythical Pokémon. However, beginning with [[Pokémon X and Y]], it is needed to qualify for the [[diploma]].

===Origin===
{{bulbanews|On the Origin of Species: Manaphy and Phione}}
Phione is probably based on {{wp|sea angel}}s, specifically {{wp|clione}}. Clione are remarkably popular in Japanese documentaries, especially in {{wp|Hokkaido}}, on which Sinnoh is based (this may also explain their appearance in [[Chocovine Town]]).

====Name origin====
Phione may be a combination of the final syllable of ''{{p|Manaphy}}'' and ''{{wp|clione}}'' (sea angels). Like clione, Phione is pronounced in three syllables.

==References==
<references/>

==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=water|type2=water
|ja=フィオネ ''Phione''|jameaning=From a combination of final syllable of ''{{p|Manaphy}}'' and ''clione'' (sea angels)
|de=Phione|demeaning=Same as Japanese name
|fr=Phione|frmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|es=Phione|esmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|it=Phione|itmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|ko=피오네 ''Pione''|komeaning=Transliteration of Japanese name
|zh_cmn=霏歐納 ''Fēi Ōu Nà''|zh_cmnmeaning=Transliteration of Japanese name
}}
 

==External links==

{{Legendary Pokémon}} 
{{PokémonPrevNext |type=water | prevnum=488 | nextnum=490 | prev=Cresselia |next=Manaphy}}
{{-}}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Promotion-only Pokémon]]
[[Category:Pokémon in no regional Pokédex]]

[[it:Phione]]
[[pt:Phione (pokémon)]]

[[de:Phione]]
[[es:Phione]]
[[fr:Phione]]
[[ja:フィオネ]]
[[pl:Phione]]
[[zh:霏欧纳]]

Phione (Pokémon)

2014-08-30T15:53:22Z

Shepeedy: /* Evidence for */

{{PokémonPrevNext |type=water | prevnum=488 | nextnum=490 | prev=Cresselia |next=Manaphy}}
{{Pokémon Infobox |
name=Phione |
jname=フィオネ |
jtranslit=Fione |
tmname=Phione |
ndex=489 |
obrow=297 |
typebox=1 |
type1=Water |
species=Sea Drifter |
height-ftin=1'04" |
height-m=0.4 |
weight-lbs=6.8 |
weight-kg=3.1 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Hydration |
egggroupn=2 |
egggroup1=Water 1 |
egggroup2=Fairy |
eggcycles=41 |
evtotal=1 |
evhp=1 |
expyield=216 |
oldexp=165 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gendercode=255 |
color=Blue |
catchrate=30 |
body= 04|
pokefordex=phione |
generation=4 |
friendship=70 |
}}
'''Phione''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese:]] '''フィオネ''' ''Phione'') is a {{type|Water}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}.

While it is not known to [[Evolution|evolve]] into or from any other Pokémon, it can only be obtained by breeding {{p|Manaphy}} or another Phione with {{p|Ditto}}.

It is a member of the {{DL|Legendary Pokémon|sea guardians}} with Manaphy.

Phione's [[#Legendary status|status]] as a [[Legendary Pokémon]] is often disputed, with contradiction occurring even between official sources.

==Biology==
Phione is a blue Pokémon with a round head and a tiny body. Phione's head is crowned by a flotation sac with a long, ribbon-like antenna. Its mouth is small, and its eyes are large with blue sclera and gray irises. Above its eyes are two blue, circular markings connected to the eyes by a thin black line. Its long, flipper-like arms have rounded tips. Phione has a red, oval gem on its chest and a single rudimentary foot spike.

Phione inflates the sac on its head to drift in the water and search for food. When the water grows warm, it will drift in packs with other members of its species. No matter how far it has drifted, it will always return to the place where it was born.

==In the anime==
[[File:Phione Supersonic.png|thumb|250px|left|Phione in the anime]]
===Major appearances===
Multiple Phione made their debut appearance in the anime in ''[[DP113|Hold the Phione!]]'' where one was attracted to [[Dawn's Buneary]].
{{-}}

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}
{{Animedexbody|DP113|Phione|Dawn's Pokédex|Phione, the Sea Drifter Pokémon. Phione lives in warm oceans. It inflates the flotation sac on its head allowing it to float on the waves and look for {{pkmn|food}}.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond & Pearl''|Sinnoh}}

==In the manga==
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
[[File:Phione Adventures.png|thumb|right|200px|Phione in Pokémon Adventures]]
Phione made its debut in ''[[PS441|Alternate Dimension Showdown XI]]'', where it was revealed to have hatched from an Egg created by {{p|Manaphy}}.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Phione (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=water
|gen=4
|dpdex=A Pokémon that lives in warm seas. It inflates the flotation sac on its head to drift and search for food.
|platinumdex=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.
|hgssdex=When the water warms, they inflate the flotation sac on their heads and drift languidly on the sea in packs.
|bwdex=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.
|b2w2dex=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.
|xdex=When the water warms, they inflate the flotation sac on their heads and drift languidly on the sea in packs.
|ydex=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability/Header|type=water}}
{{Availability/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=IV}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=Diamond|v2=Pearl|area=[[My Pokémon Ranch]]}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=Platinum|area=[[My Pokémon Ranch]] (requires Platinum update, Japan only) {{pkmn|breeding|Breed}} {{p|Manaphy}} and {{p|Ditto}}}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=HeartGold|v2=SoulSilver|area={{pkmn|breeding|Breed}} {{p|Manaphy}} and {{p|Ditto}}}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=V}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Black|v2=White|area=[[Poké Transfer]]}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Black 2|v2=White 2|area=[[Poké Transfer]]}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=VI}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=X|v2=Y|area=[[Poké Transporter]]}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Footer}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=Water
|md2=[[Miracle Sea]] (Bottom)
|ranch=Store 250 Pokémon {{tt|*|Received in a Trade with Hayley for a Leafeon. Available for transfer to Diamond and Pearl.}}
|rumble=Ticket for releasing {{p|Lapras}} and {{p|Vaporeon}}
|ranger3=[[Canal Ruins]]
|rumble2=Beach: [[Rugged Flats]]{{tt|*|Get 20 customers}}
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=water |
HP= 80 |
Attack= 80 |
Defense=80 |
SpAtk= 80 |
SpDef= 80 |
Speed= 80 }}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon|
|type=Water
|Speed=4
|SpeedMax=5
|Power=1
|PowerMax=2
|Technique=3
|TechniqueMax=5
|Stamina=1
|StaminaMax=3
|Jump=2
|JumpMax=3
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{TypeEffectiveness|
type1=water|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |
Fairy= 100}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Bubble|Water|Special|40|100|30||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Water Sport|Water|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|9|Charm|Fairy|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|16|Supersonic|Normal|Status|—|55|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|24|Bubble Beam|Water|Special|65|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|31|Acid Armor|Poison|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|39|Whirlpool|Water|Special|35|85|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|46|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|54|Aqua Ring|Water|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|61|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|69|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/levelf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM07|Hail|Ice|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM13|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|90|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM14|Blizzard|Ice|Special|110|70|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM55|Scald|Water|Special|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM56|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM86|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM88|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM89|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM99|Dazzling Gleam|Fairy|Special|80|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM100|Confide|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM03|Surf|Water|Special|90|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM05|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tmf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}
{{learnlist/breed5null}}
{{learnlist/breedf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}
{{learnlist/tutor5null}}
{{learnlist/tutorf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=water |
ndex=489 |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=100 |
iq=B |
Ranger3=yes |
group3=Water |
assist3=Water |
field3=Cut |
field3power=2 |
browser3=It attacks by spitting bubbles that make Pokémon Slowed. |
rumble=yes|
rumbleattack=3|
rumbledefense=3|
rumblespeed=3|
rumble2=yes|
rumble2attack=3|
rumble2defense=3|
rumble2speed=3|
}}

===Evolution===
{{Evobox
|family=Breedonly
|sprite1=489Phione
|name1=Phione
|type1-1=Water
|evotype1=None
|sprite2=490Manaphy
|name2=Manaphy
|type1-2=Water
}}

===Sprites===
{{Spritebox/Header|type=Water}}
{{Spritebox/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Spritebox/4|ndex=489}}
{{Spritebox/5|ndex=489}}
{{Spritebox/Footer|489|Phione}}

==Trivia==
* Phione is the only Pokémon that is obtainable by breeding a [[Legendary Pokémon]].
* Breeding either {{p|Manaphy}} or Phione can produce a Phione Egg, but Phione is unable to evolve into Manaphy nor produce Eggs that can hatch into Manaphy.
** Consequently, Phione and Manaphy are the only {{tt|Legendary Pokémon|although Phione's Legendary status is disputed}} that can be bred legitimately.
* Phione, {{p|Nidoran♂}}, {{p|Nidoran♀}}, {{p|Illumise}} and {{p|Volbeat}} are the only Pokémon that can be obtained by breeding a Pokémon they cannot evolve into.
* Phione shares the exact same base stats with {{p|Glalie}}.
* Phione is not found in any regional Pokédex.
* If it were counted as a [[Legendary Pokémon]], Phione would have the lowest [[base stats|base stat total]] out of all Legendary Pokémon.

===Legendary status===
Phione's status as a [[Legendary Pokémon]] is disputed, with several pieces of evidence and even official statements often contradicting each other.

====Evidence for====
* In [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]: [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|Explorers of Time, Darkness]] and [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|Sky]], Phione has a 100% recruit rate, is never battled, and the player is not allowed to recruit more than one to their team, all of which are traits otherwise only exhibited by Legendary Pokémon.
* Phione is banned from the {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}}, the [[Battle Subway]] and the [[Pokémon World Tournament]], a rule which typically applies only to major and event Legendary Pokémon. However, it may be due to it being available only through events.
* Phione [[List of Pokémon that do not appear in any regional Pokédex|is not found in any regional Pokédex]], a trait that is otherwise exclusive to [[Generation IV]] Legendary Pokémon.
* In [[Pokémon Rumble Blast]], Phione can only be unlocked once a certain number of customers have shopped at the Toy Shop, a trait otherwise exclusive to Legendary Pokémon.
* Phione was featured in Pokémon.com's 2012 [http://www.pokemon.com/powerbracket/us/ Pokémon Power Bracket], a playoff of sorts where all other Pokémon in the bracket were Legendary Pokémon.
* The 2014 [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Details_for_international_tournament_featuring_Legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon_announced Battle of Legends] tournament allowed the use of normally banned Pokémon, which include Legendary Pokémon and Phione; however, the latter may be normally banned due to it being available only through events.

====Evidence against====
* Phione can breed to produce another Phione; this is impossible with any other Legendary Pokémon.
* The official game guide to {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, made by [[The Pokémon Company International]], states that Phione is not Legendary.
* In [[Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs]], all Legendary Pokémon are referred to as "rare" or "Legendary", but Phione is not. It is also found normally in the wild.

====Other====
* [[Pokémon.com]]'s mailbag was once asked if Phione was Legendary; the official answer was initially no, but was quickly changed to yes; the whole mailbag section has since been taken down with the restructure of Pokémon.com.
* Originally, Phione was not needed in order to complete the [[National Pokédex]], as with other event-only Legendary Pokémon. However, beginning with [[Pokémon X and Y]], it is needed to qualify for the [[diploma]].

===Origin===
{{bulbanews|On the Origin of Species: Manaphy and Phione}}
Phione is probably based on {{wp|sea angel}}s, specifically {{wp|clione}}. Clione are remarkably popular in Japanese documentaries, especially in {{wp|Hokkaido}}, on which Sinnoh is based (this may also explain their appearance in [[Chocovine Town]]).

====Name origin====
Phione may be a combination of the final syllable of ''{{p|Manaphy}}'' and ''{{wp|clione}}'' (sea angels). Like clione, Phione is pronounced in three syllables.

==References==
<references/>

==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=water|type2=water
|ja=フィオネ ''Phione''|jameaning=From a combination of final syllable of ''{{p|Manaphy}}'' and ''clione'' (sea angels)
|de=Phione|demeaning=Same as Japanese name
|fr=Phione|frmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|es=Phione|esmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|it=Phione|itmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|ko=피오네 ''Phione''|komeaning=Transliteration of Japanese name
|zh_cmn=霏歐納 ''Fēi Ōu Nà''|zh_cmnmeaning=Transliteration of Japanese name
}}
 

==External links==

{{Legendary Pokémon}} 
{{PokémonPrevNext |type=water | prevnum=488 | nextnum=490 | prev=Cresselia |next=Manaphy}}
{{-}}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Promotion-only Pokémon]]
[[Category:Pokémon in no regional Pokédex]]

[[it:Phione]]
[[pt:Phione (pokémon)]]

[[de:Phione]]
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Phione (Pokémon)

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{{PokémonPrevNext |type=water | prevnum=488 | nextnum=490 | prev=Cresselia |next=Manaphy}}
{{Pokémon Infobox |
name=Phione |
jname=フィオネ |
jtranslit=Fione |
tmname=Phione |
ndex=489 |
obrow=297 |
typebox=1 |
type1=Water |
species=Sea Drifter |
height-ftin=1'04" |
height-m=0.4 |
weight-lbs=6.8 |
weight-kg=3.1 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Hydration |
egggroupn=2 |
egggroup1=Water 1 |
egggroup2=Fairy |
eggcycles=41 |
evtotal=1 |
evhp=1 |
expyield=216 |
oldexp=165 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gendercode=255 |
color=Blue |
catchrate=30 |
body= 04|
pokefordex=phione |
generation=4 |
friendship=70 |
}}
'''Phione''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese:]] '''フィオネ''' ''Phione'') is a {{type|Water}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}.

While it is not known to [[Evolution|evolve]] into or from any other Pokémon, it can only be obtained by breeding {{p|Manaphy}} or another Phione with {{p|Ditto}}.

It is a member of the {{DL|Legendary Pokémon|sea guardians}} with Manaphy.

Phione's [[#Legendary status|status]] as a [[Legendary Pokémon]] is often disputed, with contradiction occurring even between official sources.

==Biology==
Phione is a blue Pokémon with a round head and a tiny body. Phione's head is crowned by a flotation sac with a long, ribbon-like antenna. Its mouth is small, and its eyes are large with blue sclera and gray irises. Above its eyes are two blue, circular markings connected to the eyes by a thin black line. Its long, flipper-like arms have rounded tips. Phione has a red, oval gem on its chest and a single rudimentary foot spike.

Phione inflates the sac on its head to drift in the water and search for food. When the water grows warm, it will drift in packs with other members of its species. No matter how far it has drifted, it will always return to the place where it was born.

==In the anime==
[[File:Phione Supersonic.png|thumb|250px|left|Phione in the anime]]
===Major appearances===
Multiple Phione made their debut appearance in the anime in ''[[DP113|Hold the Phione!]]'' where one was attracted to [[Dawn's Buneary]].
{{-}}

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}
{{Animedexbody|DP113|Phione|Dawn's Pokédex|Phione, the Sea Drifter Pokémon. Phione lives in warm oceans. It inflates the flotation sac on its head allowing it to float on the waves and look for {{pkmn|food}}.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond & Pearl''|Sinnoh}}

==In the manga==
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
[[File:Phione Adventures.png|thumb|right|200px|Phione in Pokémon Adventures]]
Phione made its debut in ''[[PS441|Alternate Dimension Showdown XI]]'', where it was revealed to have hatched from an Egg created by {{p|Manaphy}}.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Phione (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=water
|gen=4
|dpdex=A Pokémon that lives in warm seas. It inflates the flotation sac on its head to drift and search for food.
|platinumdex=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.
|hgssdex=When the water warms, they inflate the flotation sac on their heads and drift languidly on the sea in packs.
|bwdex=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.
|b2w2dex=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.
|xdex=When the water warms, they inflate the flotation sac on their heads and drift languidly on the sea in packs.
|ydex=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability/Header|type=water}}
{{Availability/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=IV}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=Diamond|v2=Pearl|area=[[My Pokémon Ranch]]}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=Platinum|area=[[My Pokémon Ranch]] (requires Platinum update, Japan only) {{pkmn|breeding|Breed}} {{p|Manaphy}} and {{p|Ditto}}}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=HeartGold|v2=SoulSilver|area={{pkmn|breeding|Breed}} {{p|Manaphy}} and {{p|Ditto}}}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=V}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Black|v2=White|area=[[Poké Transfer]]}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Black 2|v2=White 2|area=[[Poké Transfer]]}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=VI}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=X|v2=Y|area=[[Poké Transporter]]}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Footer}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=Water
|md2=[[Miracle Sea]] (Bottom)
|ranch=Store 250 Pokémon {{tt|*|Received in a Trade with Hayley for a Leafeon. Available for transfer to Diamond and Pearl.}}
|rumble=Ticket for releasing {{p|Lapras}} and {{p|Vaporeon}}
|ranger3=[[Canal Ruins]]
|rumble2=Beach: [[Rugged Flats]]{{tt|*|Get 20 customers}}
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=water |
HP= 80 |
Attack= 80 |
Defense=80 |
SpAtk= 80 |
SpDef= 80 |
Speed= 80 }}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon|
|type=Water
|Speed=4
|SpeedMax=5
|Power=1
|PowerMax=2
|Technique=3
|TechniqueMax=5
|Stamina=1
|StaminaMax=3
|Jump=2
|JumpMax=3
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{TypeEffectiveness|
type1=water|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |
Fairy= 100}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Bubble|Water|Special|40|100|30||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Water Sport|Water|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|9|Charm|Fairy|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|16|Supersonic|Normal|Status|—|55|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|24|Bubble Beam|Water|Special|65|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|31|Acid Armor|Poison|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|39|Whirlpool|Water|Special|35|85|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|46|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|54|Aqua Ring|Water|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|61|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|69|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/levelf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM07|Hail|Ice|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM13|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|90|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM14|Blizzard|Ice|Special|110|70|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM55|Scald|Water|Special|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM56|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM86|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM88|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM89|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM99|Dazzling Gleam|Fairy|Special|80|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM100|Confide|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM03|Surf|Water|Special|90|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM05|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tmf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}
{{learnlist/breed5null}}
{{learnlist/breedf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}
{{learnlist/tutor5null}}
{{learnlist/tutorf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=water |
ndex=489 |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=100 |
iq=B |
Ranger3=yes |
group3=Water |
assist3=Water |
field3=Cut |
field3power=2 |
browser3=It attacks by spitting bubbles that make Pokémon Slowed. |
rumble=yes|
rumbleattack=3|
rumbledefense=3|
rumblespeed=3|
rumble2=yes|
rumble2attack=3|
rumble2defense=3|
rumble2speed=3|
}}

===Evolution===
{{Evobox
|family=Breedonly
|sprite1=489Phione
|name1=Phione
|type1-1=Water
|evotype1=None
|sprite2=490Manaphy
|name2=Manaphy
|type1-2=Water
}}

===Sprites===
{{Spritebox/Header|type=Water}}
{{Spritebox/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Spritebox/4|ndex=489}}
{{Spritebox/5|ndex=489}}
{{Spritebox/Footer|489|Phione}}

==Trivia==
* Phione is the only Pokémon that is obtainable by breeding a [[Legendary Pokémon]].
* Breeding either {{p|Manaphy}} or Phione can produce a Phione Egg, but Phione is unable to evolve into Manaphy nor produce Eggs that can hatch into Manaphy.
** Consequently, Phione and Manaphy are the only {{tt|Legendary Pokémon|although Phione's Legendary status is disputed}} that can be bred legitimately.
* Phione, {{p|Nidoran♂}}, {{p|Nidoran♀}}, {{p|Illumise}} and {{p|Volbeat}} are the only Pokémon that can be obtained by breeding a Pokémon they cannot evolve into.
* Phione shares the exact same base stats with {{p|Glalie}}.
* Phione is not found in any regional Pokédex.
* If it were counted as a [[Legendary Pokémon]], Phione would have the lowest [[base stats|base stat total]] out of all Legendary Pokémon.

===Legendary status===
Phione's status as a [[Legendary Pokémon]] is disputed, with several pieces of evidence and even official statements often contradicting each other.

====Evidence for====
* In [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]: [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|Explorers of Time, Darkness]] and [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|Sky]], Phione has a 100% recruit rate, is never battled, and the player is not allowed to recruit more than one to their team, all of which are traits otherwise only exhibited by Legendary Pokémon.
* Phione is banned from the {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}}, the [[Battle Subway]] and the [[Pokémon World Tournament]], a rule which typically applies only to major and event Legendary Pokémon. However, it may be due to it being available only through events.
* Phione [[List of Pokémon that do not appear in any regional Pokédex|is not found in any regional Pokédex]], a trait that is otherwise exclusive to [[Generation IV]] Legendary Pokémon.
* In [[Pokémon Rumble Blast]], Phione can only be unlocked once a certain number of customers have shopped at the Toy Shop, a trait otherwise exclusive to Legendary Pokémon.
* Phione was featured in Pokémon.com's 2012 [http://www.pokemon.com/powerbracket/us/ Pokémon Power Bracket], a playoff of sorts where all other Pokémon in the bracket were Legendary Pokémon.
* The 2014 [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Details_for_international_tournament_featuring_Legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon_announced Battle of Legends] tournament allows the use of normally banned Pokémon, which include Legendary Pokémon and Phione; however, the latter may be normally banned due to it being available only through events.

====Evidence against====
* Phione can breed to produce another Phione; this is impossible with any other Legendary Pokémon.
* The official game guide to {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, made by [[The Pokémon Company International]], states that Phione is not Legendary.
* In [[Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs]], all Legendary Pokémon are referred to as "rare" or "Legendary", but Phione is not. It is also found normally in the wild.

====Other====
* [[Pokémon.com]]'s mailbag was once asked if Phione was Legendary; the official answer was initially no, but was quickly changed to yes; the whole mailbag section has since been taken down with the restructure of Pokémon.com.
* Originally, Phione was not needed in order to complete the [[National Pokédex]], as with other event-only Legendary Pokémon. However, beginning with [[Pokémon X and Y]], it is needed to qualify for the [[diploma]].

===Origin===
{{bulbanews|On the Origin of Species: Manaphy and Phione}}
Phione is probably based on {{wp|sea angel}}s, specifically {{wp|clione}}. Clione are remarkably popular in Japanese documentaries, especially in {{wp|Hokkaido}}, on which Sinnoh is based (this may also explain their appearance in [[Chocovine Town]]).

====Name origin====
Phione may be a combination of the final syllable of ''{{p|Manaphy}}'' and ''{{wp|clione}}'' (sea angels). Like clione, Phione is pronounced in three syllables.

==References==
<references/>

==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=water|type2=water
|ja=フィオネ ''Phione''|jameaning=From a combination of final syllable of ''{{p|Manaphy}}'' and ''clione'' (sea angels)
|de=Phione|demeaning=Same as Japanese name
|fr=Phione|frmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|es=Phione|esmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|it=Phione|itmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|ko=피오네 ''Phione''|komeaning=Transliteration of Japanese name
|zh_cmn=霏歐納 ''Fēi Ōu Nà''|zh_cmnmeaning=Transliteration of Japanese name
}}
 

==External links==

{{Legendary Pokémon}} 
{{PokémonPrevNext |type=water | prevnum=488 | nextnum=490 | prev=Cresselia |next=Manaphy}}
{{-}}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Promotion-only Pokémon]]
[[Category:Pokémon in no regional Pokédex]]

[[it:Phione]]
[[pt:Phione (pokémon)]]

[[de:Phione]]
[[es:Phione]]
[[fr:Phione]]
[[ja:フィオネ]]
[[pl:Phione]]
[[zh:霏欧纳]]

Phione (Pokémon)

2014-08-30T08:42:25Z

Shepeedy: /* Evidence against */

{{PokémonPrevNext |type=water | prevnum=488 | nextnum=490 | prev=Cresselia |next=Manaphy}}
{{Pokémon Infobox |
name=Phione |
jname=フィオネ |
jtranslit=Fione |
tmname=Phione |
ndex=489 |
obrow=297 |
typebox=1 |
type1=Water |
species=Sea Drifter |
height-ftin=1'04" |
height-m=0.4 |
weight-lbs=6.8 |
weight-kg=3.1 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Hydration |
egggroupn=2 |
egggroup1=Water 1 |
egggroup2=Fairy |
eggcycles=41 |
evtotal=1 |
evhp=1 |
expyield=216 |
oldexp=165 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gendercode=255 |
color=Blue |
catchrate=30 |
body= 04|
pokefordex=phione |
generation=4 |
friendship=70 |
}}
'''Phione''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese:]] '''フィオネ''' ''Phione'') is a {{type|Water}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}.

While it is not known to [[Evolution|evolve]] into or from any other Pokémon, it can only be obtained by breeding {{p|Manaphy}} or another Phione with {{p|Ditto}}.

It is a member of the {{DL|Legendary Pokémon|sea guardians}} with Manaphy.

Phione's [[#Legendary status|status]] as a [[Legendary Pokémon]] is often disputed, with contradiction occurring even between official sources.

==Biology==
Phione is a blue Pokémon with a round head and a tiny body. Phione's head is crowned by a flotation sac with a long, ribbon-like antenna. Its mouth is small, and its eyes are large with blue sclera and gray irises. Above its eyes are two blue, circular markings connected to the eyes by a thin black line. Its long, flipper-like arms have rounded tips. Phione has a red, oval gem on its chest and a single rudimentary foot spike.

Phione inflates the sac on its head to drift in the water and search for food. When the water grows warm, it will drift in packs with other members of its species. No matter how far it has drifted, it will always return to the place where it was born.

==In the anime==
[[File:Phione Supersonic.png|thumb|250px|left|Phione in the anime]]
===Major appearances===
Multiple Phione made their debut appearance in the anime in ''[[DP113|Hold the Phione!]]'' where one was attracted to [[Dawn's Buneary]].
{{-}}

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}
{{Animedexbody|DP113|Phione|Dawn's Pokédex|Phione, the Sea Drifter Pokémon. Phione lives in warm oceans. It inflates the flotation sac on its head allowing it to float on the waves and look for {{pkmn|food}}.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond & Pearl''|Sinnoh}}

==In the manga==
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
[[File:Phione Adventures.png|thumb|right|200px|Phione in Pokémon Adventures]]
Phione made its debut in ''[[PS441|Alternate Dimension Showdown XI]]'', where it was revealed to have hatched from an Egg created by {{p|Manaphy}}.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Phione (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=water
|gen=4
|dpdex=A Pokémon that lives in warm seas. It inflates the flotation sac on its head to drift and search for food.
|platinumdex=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.
|hgssdex=When the water warms, they inflate the flotation sac on their heads and drift languidly on the sea in packs.
|bwdex=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.
|b2w2dex=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.
|xdex=When the water warms, they inflate the flotation sac on their heads and drift languidly on the sea in packs.
|ydex=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability/Header|type=water}}
{{Availability/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=IV}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=Diamond|v2=Pearl|area=[[My Pokémon Ranch]]}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=Platinum|area=[[My Pokémon Ranch]] (requires Platinum update, Japan only) {{pkmn|breeding|Breed}} {{p|Manaphy}} and {{p|Ditto}}}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=HeartGold|v2=SoulSilver|area={{pkmn|breeding|Breed}} {{p|Manaphy}} and {{p|Ditto}}}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=V}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Black|v2=White|area=[[Poké Transfer]]}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Black 2|v2=White 2|area=[[Poké Transfer]]}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=VI}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=X|v2=Y|area=[[Poké Transporter]]}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Footer}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=Water
|md2=[[Miracle Sea]] (Bottom)
|ranch=Store 250 Pokémon {{tt|*|Received in a Trade with Hayley for a Leafeon. Available for transfer to Diamond and Pearl.}}
|rumble=Ticket for releasing {{p|Lapras}} and {{p|Vaporeon}}
|ranger3=[[Canal Ruins]]
|rumble2=Beach: [[Rugged Flats]]{{tt|*|Get 20 customers}}
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=water |
HP= 80 |
Attack= 80 |
Defense=80 |
SpAtk= 80 |
SpDef= 80 |
Speed= 80 }}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon|
|type=Water
|Speed=4
|SpeedMax=5
|Power=1
|PowerMax=2
|Technique=3
|TechniqueMax=5
|Stamina=1
|StaminaMax=3
|Jump=2
|JumpMax=3
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{TypeEffectiveness|
type1=water|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |
Fairy= 100}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Bubble|Water|Special|40|100|30||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Water Sport|Water|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|9|Charm|Fairy|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|16|Supersonic|Normal|Status|—|55|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|24|Bubble Beam|Water|Special|65|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|31|Acid Armor|Poison|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|39|Whirlpool|Water|Special|35|85|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|46|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|54|Aqua Ring|Water|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|61|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|69|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/levelf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM07|Hail|Ice|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM13|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|90|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM14|Blizzard|Ice|Special|110|70|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM55|Scald|Water|Special|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM56|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM86|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM88|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM89|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM99|Dazzling Gleam|Fairy|Special|80|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM100|Confide|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM03|Surf|Water|Special|90|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM05|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tmf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}
{{learnlist/breed5null}}
{{learnlist/breedf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}
{{learnlist/tutor5null}}
{{learnlist/tutorf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=water |
ndex=489 |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=100 |
iq=B |
Ranger3=yes |
group3=Water |
assist3=Water |
field3=Cut |
field3power=2 |
browser3=It attacks by spitting bubbles that make Pokémon Slowed. |
rumble=yes|
rumbleattack=3|
rumbledefense=3|
rumblespeed=3|
rumble2=yes|
rumble2attack=3|
rumble2defense=3|
rumble2speed=3|
}}

===Evolution===
{{Evobox
|family=Breedonly
|sprite1=489Phione
|name1=Phione
|type1-1=Water
|evotype1=None
|sprite2=490Manaphy
|name2=Manaphy
|type1-2=Water
}}

===Sprites===
{{Spritebox/Header|type=Water}}
{{Spritebox/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Spritebox/4|ndex=489}}
{{Spritebox/5|ndex=489}}
{{Spritebox/Footer|489|Phione}}

==Trivia==
* Phione is the only Pokémon that is obtainable by breeding a [[Legendary Pokémon]].
* Breeding either {{p|Manaphy}} or Phione can produce a Phione Egg, but Phione is unable to evolve into Manaphy nor produce Eggs that can hatch into Manaphy.
** Consequently, Phione and Manaphy are the only {{tt|Legendary Pokémon|although Phione's Legendary status is disputed}} that can be bred legitimately.
* Phione, {{p|Nidoran♂}}, {{p|Nidoran♀}}, {{p|Illumise}} and {{p|Volbeat}} are the only Pokémon that can be obtained by breeding a Pokémon they cannot evolve into.
* Phione shares the exact same base stats with {{p|Glalie}}.
* Phione is not found in any regional Pokédex.
* If it were counted as a [[Legendary Pokémon]], Phione would have the lowest [[base stats|base stat total]] out of all Legendary Pokémon.

===Legendary status===
Phione's status as a [[Legendary Pokémon]] is disputed, with several pieces of evidence and even official statements often contradicting each other.

====Evidence for====
* In [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]: [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|Explorers of Time, Darkness]] and [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|Sky]], Phione has a 100% recruit rate, is never battled, and the player is not allowed to recruit more than one to their team, all of which are traits otherwise only exhibited by Legendary Pokémon.
* Phione is banned from the {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}}, the [[Battle Subway]] and the [[Pokémon World Tournament]], a rule which typically applies only to major and event Legendary Pokémon. However, it may be due to it being available only through events.
* Phione [[List of Pokémon that do not appear in any regional Pokédex|is not found in any regional Pokédex]], a trait that is otherwise exclusive to [[Generation IV]] Legendary Pokémon.
* In [[Pokémon Rumble Blast]], Phione can only be unlocked once a certain number of customers have shopped at the Toy Shop, a trait otherwise exclusive to Legendary Pokémon.
* Phione was featured in Pokémon.com's 2012 [http://www.pokemon.com/powerbracket/us/ Pokémon Power Bracket], a playoff of sorts where all other Pokémon in the bracket were Legendary Pokémon.
* The 2014 [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Details_for_international_tournament_featuring_Legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon_announced Battle of Legends] tournament categorizes Phione as a Legendary Pokémon. However, it may be due to it being available only through events.

====Evidence against====
* Phione can breed to produce another Phione; this is impossible with any other Legendary Pokémon.
* The official game guide to {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, made by [[The Pokémon Company International]], states that Phione is not Legendary.
* In [[Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs]], all Legendary Pokémon are referred to as "rare" or "Legendary", but Phione is not. It is also found normally in the wild.
* Unlike event-only Legendary Pokémon, Phione ''is'' needed in order to complete the [[National Pokédex]] in [[Pokémon X and Y]].

====Other====
* [[Pokémon.com]]'s mailbag was once asked if Phione was Legendary; the official answer was initially no, but was quickly changed to yes; the whole mailbag section has since been taken down with the restructure of Pokémon.com.

===Origin===
{{bulbanews|On the Origin of Species: Manaphy and Phione}}
Phione is probably based on {{wp|sea angel}}s, specifically {{wp|clione}}. Clione are remarkably popular in Japanese documentaries, especially in {{wp|Hokkaido}}, on which Sinnoh is based (this may also explain their appearance in [[Chocovine Town]]).

====Name origin====
Phione may be a combination of the final syllable of ''{{p|Manaphy}}'' and ''{{wp|clione}}'' (sea angels). Like clione, Phione is pronounced in three syllables.

==References==
<references/>

==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=water|type2=water
|ja=フィオネ ''Phione''|jameaning=From a combination of final syllable of ''{{p|Manaphy}}'' and ''clione'' (sea angels)
|de=Phione|demeaning=Same as Japanese name
|fr=Phione|frmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|es=Phione|esmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|it=Phione|itmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|ko=피오네 ''Phione''|komeaning=Transliteration of Japanese name
|zh_cmn=霏歐納 ''Fēi Ōu Nà''|zh_cmnmeaning=Transliteration of Japanese name
}}
 

==External links==

{{Legendary Pokémon}} 
{{PokémonPrevNext |type=water | prevnum=488 | nextnum=490 | prev=Cresselia |next=Manaphy}}
{{-}}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Promotion-only Pokémon]]
[[Category:Pokémon in no regional Pokédex]]

[[it:Phione]]
[[pt:Phione (pokémon)]]

[[de:Phione]]
[[es:Phione]]
[[fr:Phione]]
[[ja:フィオネ]]
[[pl:Phione]]
[[zh:霏欧纳]]

Phione (Pokémon)

2014-08-06T08:40:40Z

Shepeedy: /* Evidence for */

{{PokémonPrevNext |type=water | prevnum=488 | nextnum=490 | prev=Cresselia |next=Manaphy}}
{{Pokémon Infobox |
name=Phione |
jname=フィオネ |
jtranslit=Fione |
tmname=Phione |
ndex=489 |
obrow=297 |
typebox=1 |
type1=Water |
species=Sea Drifter |
height-ftin=1'04" |
height-m=0.4 |
weight-lbs=6.8 |
weight-kg=3.1 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Hydration |
egggroupn=2 |
egggroup1=Water 1 |
egggroup2=Fairy |
eggcycles=41 |
evtotal=1 |
evhp=1 |
expyield=216 |
oldexp=165 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gendercode=255 |
color=Blue |
catchrate=30 |
body= 04|
pokefordex=phione |
generation=4 |
friendship=70 |
}}
'''Phione''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese:]] '''フィオネ''' ''Phione'') is a {{type|Water}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}.

While it is not known to [[Evolution|evolve]] into or from any other Pokémon, it can only be obtained by breeding {{p|Manaphy}} or another Phione with {{p|Ditto}}.

It is a member of the {{DL|Legendary Pokémon|sea guardians}} with Manaphy.

Phione's [[#Legendary status|status]] as a [[Legendary Pokémon]] is often disputed, with contradiction occurring even between official sources.

==Biology==
Phione is a blue Pokémon with a round head and a tiny body. Phione's head is crowned by a flotation sac with a long, ribbon-like antenna. Its mouth is small, and its eyes are large with blue sclera and gray irises. Above its eyes are two blue, circular markings connected to the eyes by a thin black line. Its long, flipper-like arms have rounded tips. Phione has a red, oval gem on its chest and a single rudimentary foot spike.

Phione inflates the sac on its head to drift in the water and search for food. When the water grows warm, it will drift in packs with other members of its species. No matter how far it has drifted, it will always return to the place where it was born.

==In the anime==
[[File:Phione Supersonic.png|thumb|250px|left|Phione in the anime]]
===Major appearances===
Multiple Phione made their debut appearance in the anime in ''[[DP113|Hold the Phione!]]'' where one was attracted to [[Dawn's Buneary]].
{{-}}

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}
{{Animedexbody|DP113|Phione|Dawn's Pokédex|Phione, the Sea Drifter Pokémon. Phione lives in warm oceans. It inflates the flotation sac on its head allowing it to float on the waves and look for {{pkmn|food}}.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond & Pearl''|Sinnoh}}

==In the manga==
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
[[File:Phione Adventures.png|thumb|right|200px|Phione in Pokémon Adventures]]
Phione made its debut in ''[[PS441|Alternate Dimension Showdown XI]]'', where it was revealed to have hatched from an Egg created by {{p|Manaphy}}.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Phione (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=water
|gen=4
|dpdex=A Pokémon that lives in warm seas. It inflates the flotation sac on its head to drift and search for food.
|platinumdex=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.
|hgssdex=When the water warms, they inflate the flotation sac on their heads and drift languidly on the sea in packs.
|bwdex=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.
|b2w2dex=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.
|xdex=When the water warms, they inflate the flotation sac on their heads and drift languidly on the sea in packs.
|ydex=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability/Header|type=water}}
{{Availability/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=IV}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=Diamond|v2=Pearl|area=[[My Pokémon Ranch]]}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=Platinum|area=[[My Pokémon Ranch]] (requires Platinum update, Japan only) {{pkmn|breeding|Breed}} {{p|Manaphy}} and {{p|Ditto}}}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=HeartGold|v2=SoulSilver|area={{pkmn|breeding|Breed}} {{p|Manaphy}} and {{p|Ditto}}}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=V}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Black|v2=White|area=[[Poké Transfer]]}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Black 2|v2=White 2|area=[[Poké Transfer]]}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=VI}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=X|v2=Y|area=[[Poké Transporter]]}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Footer}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=Water
|md2=[[Miracle Sea]] (Bottom)
|ranch=Store 250 Pokémon {{tt|*|Received in a Trade with Hayley for a Leafeon. Available for transfer to Diamond and Pearl.}}
|rumble=Ticket for releasing {{p|Lapras}} and {{p|Vaporeon}}
|ranger3=[[Canal Ruins]]
|rumble2=Beach: [[Rugged Flats]]{{tt|*|Get 20 customers}}
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=water |
HP= 80 |
Attack= 80 |
Defense=80 |
SpAtk= 80 |
SpDef= 80 |
Speed= 80 }}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon|
|type=Water
|Speed=4
|SpeedMax=5
|Power=1
|PowerMax=2
|Technique=3
|TechniqueMax=5
|Stamina=1
|StaminaMax=3
|Jump=2
|JumpMax=3
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{TypeEffectiveness|
type1=water|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |
Fairy= 100}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Bubble|Water|Special|40|100|30||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Water Sport|Water|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|9|Charm|Fairy|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|16|Supersonic|Normal|Status|—|55|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|24|Bubble Beam|Water|Special|65|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|31|Acid Armor|Poison|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|39|Whirlpool|Water|Special|35|85|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|46|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|54|Aqua Ring|Water|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|61|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|69|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/levelf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM07|Hail|Ice|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM13|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|90|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM14|Blizzard|Ice|Special|110|70|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM55|Scald|Water|Special|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM56|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM86|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM88|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM89|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM99|Dazzling Gleam|Fairy|Special|80|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM100|Confide|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM03|Surf|Water|Special|90|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM05|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tmf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}
{{learnlist/breed5null}}
{{learnlist/breedf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}
{{learnlist/tutor5null}}
{{learnlist/tutorf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=water |
ndex=489 |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=100 |
iq=B |
Ranger3=yes |
group3=Water |
assist3=Water |
field3=Cut |
field3power=2 |
browser3=It attacks by spitting bubbles that make Pokémon Slowed. |
rumble=yes|
rumbleattack=3|
rumbledefense=3|
rumblespeed=3|
rumble2=yes|
rumble2attack=3|
rumble2defense=3|
rumble2speed=3|
}}

===Evolution===
{{Evobox
|family=Breedonly
|sprite1=489Phione
|name1=Phione
|type1-1=Water
|evotype1=None
|sprite2=490Manaphy
|name2=Manaphy
|type1-2=Water
}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=water|
gen=4|
gender=none|
ndex=489|
name=Phione|
animated=1|
}}

==Trivia==
* Phione is the only Pokémon that is obtainable by breeding a [[Legendary Pokémon]].
* Breeding either {{p|Manaphy}} or Phione can produce a Phione Egg, but Phione is unable to evolve into Manaphy nor produce Eggs that can hatch into Manaphy.
** Consequently, Phione and Manaphy are the only {{tt|Legendary Pokémon|although Phione's Legendary status is disputed}} that can be bred legitimately.
* Phione, {{p|Nidoran♂}}, {{p|Nidoran♀}}, {{p|Illumise}} and {{p|Volbeat}} are the only Pokémon that can be obtained by breeding a Pokémon they cannot evolve into.
* Phione shares the exact same base stats with {{p|Glalie}}.
* Phione is not found in any regional Pokédex.
* If it were counted as a [[Legendary Pokémon]], Phione would have the lowest [[base stats|base stat total]] out of all Legendary Pokémon.

===Legendary status===
Phione's status as a [[Legendary Pokémon]] is disputed, with several pieces of evidence and even official statements often contradicting each other.

====Evidence for====
* In [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]: [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|Explorers of Time, Darkness]] and [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|Sky]], Phione has a 100% recruit rate, is never battled, and the player is not allowed to recruit more than one to their team, all of which are traits otherwise only exhibited by Legendary Pokémon.
* Phione is banned from the {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}}, the [[Battle Subway]] and the [[Pokémon World Tournament]], a rule which typically applies only to major and event Legendary Pokémon. However, it may be due to it being available only through events.
* Phione [[List of Pokémon that do not appear in any regional Pokédex|is not found in any regional Pokédex]], a trait that is otherwise exclusive to [[Generation IV]] Legendary Pokémon.
* In [[Pokémon Rumble Blast]], Phione can only be unlocked once a certain number of customers have shopped at the Toy Shop, a trait otherwise exclusive to Legendary Pokémon.
* Phione was featured in Pokémon.com's 2012 [http://www.pokemon.com/powerbracket/us/ Pokémon Power Bracket], a playoff of sorts where all other Pokémon in the bracket were Legendary Pokémon.
* The 2014 [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Details_for_international_tournament_featuring_Legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon_announced Battle of Legends] tournament categorizes Phione as a Legendary Pokémon. However, it may be due to it being available only through events.

====Evidence against====
* Phione can breed to produce another Phione; this is impossible with any other Legendary Pokémon.
* The official game guide to {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, made by [[The Pokémon Company International]], states that Phione is not Legendary.
* In [[Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs]], all Legendary Pokémon are referred to as "rare" or "Legendary", but Phione is not.
* Unlike Legendary Pokémon not native to [[Kalos]], Phione is needed in order to complete the [[National Pokédex]] in [[Pokémon X and Y]].

====Other====
* [[Pokémon.com]]'s mailbag was once asked if Phione was Legendary; the official answer was initially no, but was quickly changed to yes; the whole mailbag section has since been taken down with the restructure of Pokémon.com.

===Origin===
{{bulbanews|On the Origin of Species: Manaphy and Phione}}
Phione is probably based on {{wp|sea angel}}s, specifically {{wp|clione}}. Clione are remarkably popular in Japanese documentaries, especially in {{wp|Hokkaido}}, on which Sinnoh is based (this may also explain their appearance in [[Chocovine Town]]).

====Name origin====
Phione may be a combination of the final syllable of ''{{p|Manaphy}}'' and ''{{wp|clione}}'' (sea angels). Like clione, Phione is pronounced in three syllables.

==References==
<references/>

==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=water|type2=water
|ja=フィオネ ''Phione''|jameaning=From a combination of final syllable of ''{{p|Manaphy}}'' and ''clione'' (sea angels)
|de=Phione|demeaning=Same as Japanese name
|fr=Phione|frmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|es=Phione|esmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|it=Phione|itmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|ko=피오네 ''Phione''|komeaning=Transliteration of Japanese name
|zh_cmn=霏歐納 ''Fēi Ōu Nà''|zh_cmnmeaning=Transliteration of Japanese name
}}
 

==External links==

{{Legendary Pokémon}} 
{{PokémonPrevNext |type=water | prevnum=488 | nextnum=490 | prev=Cresselia |next=Manaphy}}
{{-}}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Promotion-only Pokémon]]
[[Category:Pokémon in no regional Pokédex]]

[[it:Phione]]
[[pt:Phione (pokémon)]]

[[de:Phione]]
[[es:Phione]]
[[fr:Phione]]
[[ja:フィオネ]]
[[pl:Phione]]
[[zh:霏欧纳]]

Phione (Pokémon)

2014-08-05T10:15:05Z

Shepeedy: /* Evidence against */

{{PokémonPrevNext |type=water | prevnum=488 | nextnum=490 | prev=Cresselia |next=Manaphy}}
{{Pokémon Infobox |
name=Phione |
jname=フィオネ |
jtranslit=Fione |
tmname=Phione |
ndex=489 |
obrow=297 |
typebox=1 |
type1=Water |
species=Sea Drifter |
height-ftin=1'04" |
height-m=0.4 |
weight-lbs=6.8 |
weight-kg=3.1 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Hydration |
egggroupn=2 |
egggroup1=Water 1 |
egggroup2=Fairy |
eggcycles=41 |
evtotal=1 |
evhp=1 |
expyield=216 |
oldexp=165 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gendercode=255 |
color=Blue |
catchrate=30 |
body= 04|
pokefordex=phione |
generation=4 |
friendship=70 |
}}
'''Phione''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese:]] '''フィオネ''' ''Phione'') is a {{type|Water}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}.

While it is not known to [[Evolution|evolve]] into or from any other Pokémon, it can only be obtained by breeding {{p|Manaphy}} or another Phione with {{p|Ditto}}.

It is a member of the {{DL|Legendary Pokémon|sea guardians}} with Manaphy.

Phione's [[#Legendary status|status]] as a [[Legendary Pokémon]] is often disputed, with contradiction occurring even between official sources.

==Biology==
Phione is a blue Pokémon with a round head and a tiny body. Phione's head is crowned by a flotation sac with a long, ribbon-like antenna. Its mouth is small, and its eyes are large with blue sclera and gray irises. Above its eyes are two blue, circular markings connected to the eyes by a thin black line. Its long, flipper-like arms have rounded tips. Phione has a red, oval gem on its chest and a single rudimentary foot spike.

Phione inflates the sac on its head to drift in the water and search for food. When the water grows warm, it will drift in packs with other members of its species. No matter how far it has drifted, it will always return to the place where it was born.

==In the anime==
[[File:Phione Supersonic.png|thumb|250px|left|Phione in the anime]]
===Major appearances===
Multiple Phione made their debut appearance in the anime in ''[[DP113|Hold the Phione!]]'' where one was attracted to [[Dawn's Buneary]].
{{-}}

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}
{{Animedexbody|DP113|Phione|Dawn's Pokédex|Phione, the Sea Drifter Pokémon. Phione lives in warm oceans. It inflates the flotation sac on its head allowing it to float on the waves and look for {{pkmn|food}}.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond & Pearl''|Sinnoh}}

==In the manga==
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
[[File:Phione Adventures.png|thumb|right|200px|Phione in Pokémon Adventures]]
Phione made its debut in ''[[PS441|Alternate Dimension Showdown XI]]'', where it was revealed to have hatched from an Egg created by {{p|Manaphy}}.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Phione (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=water
|gen=4
|dpdex=A Pokémon that lives in warm seas. It inflates the flotation sac on its head to drift and search for food.
|platinumdex=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.
|hgssdex=When the water warms, they inflate the flotation sac on their heads and drift languidly on the sea in packs.
|bwdex=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.
|b2w2dex=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.
|xdex=When the water warms, they inflate the flotation sac on their heads and drift languidly on the sea in packs.
|ydex=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability/Header|type=water}}
{{Availability/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=IV}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=Diamond|v2=Pearl|area=[[My Pokémon Ranch]]}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=Platinum|area=[[My Pokémon Ranch]] (requires Platinum update, Japan only) {{pkmn|breeding|Breed}} {{p|Manaphy}} and {{p|Ditto}}}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=HeartGold|v2=SoulSilver|area={{pkmn|breeding|Breed}} {{p|Manaphy}} and {{p|Ditto}}}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=V}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Black|v2=White|area=[[Poké Transfer]]}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Black 2|v2=White 2|area=[[Poké Transfer]]}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=VI}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=X|v2=Y|area=[[Poké Transporter]]}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Footer}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=Water
|md2=[[Miracle Sea]] (Bottom)
|ranch=Store 250 Pokémon {{tt|*|Received in a Trade with Hayley for a Leafeon. Available for transfer to Diamond and Pearl.}}
|rumble=Ticket for releasing {{p|Lapras}} and {{p|Vaporeon}}
|ranger3=[[Canal Ruins]]
|rumble2=Beach: [[Rugged Flats]]{{tt|*|Get 20 customers}}
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=water |
HP= 80 |
Attack= 80 |
Defense=80 |
SpAtk= 80 |
SpDef= 80 |
Speed= 80 }}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon|
|type=Water
|Speed=4
|SpeedMax=5
|Power=1
|PowerMax=2
|Technique=3
|TechniqueMax=5
|Stamina=1
|StaminaMax=3
|Jump=2
|JumpMax=3
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{TypeEffectiveness|
type1=water|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |
Fairy= 100}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Bubble|Water|Special|40|100|30||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Water Sport|Water|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|9|Charm|Fairy|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|16|Supersonic|Normal|Status|—|55|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|24|Bubble Beam|Water|Special|65|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|31|Acid Armor|Poison|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|39|Whirlpool|Water|Special|35|85|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|46|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|54|Aqua Ring|Water|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|61|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|69|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/levelf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM07|Hail|Ice|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM13|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|90|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM14|Blizzard|Ice|Special|110|70|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM55|Scald|Water|Special|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM56|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM86|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM88|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM89|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM99|Dazzling Gleam|Fairy|Special|80|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM100|Confide|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM03|Surf|Water|Special|90|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM05|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tmf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}
{{learnlist/breed5null}}
{{learnlist/breedf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}
{{learnlist/tutor5null}}
{{learnlist/tutorf/6|Phione|Water|Water|4}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=water |
ndex=489 |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=100 |
iq=B |
Ranger3=yes |
group3=Water |
assist3=Water |
field3=Cut |
field3power=2 |
browser3=It attacks by spitting bubbles that make Pokémon Slowed. |
rumble=yes|
rumbleattack=3|
rumbledefense=3|
rumblespeed=3|
rumble2=yes|
rumble2attack=3|
rumble2defense=3|
rumble2speed=3|
}}

===Evolution===
{{Evobox
|family=Breedonly
|sprite1=489Phione
|name1=Phione
|type1-1=Water
|evotype1=None
|sprite2=490Manaphy
|name2=Manaphy
|type1-2=Water
}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=water|
gen=4|
gender=none|
ndex=489|
name=Phione|
animated=1|
}}

==Trivia==
* Phione is the only Pokémon that is obtainable by breeding a [[Legendary Pokémon]].
* Breeding either {{p|Manaphy}} or Phione can produce a Phione Egg, but Phione is unable to evolve into Manaphy nor produce Eggs that can hatch into Manaphy.
** Consequently, Phione and Manaphy are the only {{tt|Legendary Pokémon|although Phione's Legendary status is disputed}} that can be bred legitimately.
* Phione, {{p|Nidoran♂}}, {{p|Nidoran♀}}, {{p|Illumise}} and {{p|Volbeat}} are the only Pokémon that can be obtained by breeding a Pokémon they cannot evolve into.
* Phione shares the exact same base stats with {{p|Glalie}}.
* Phione is not found in any regional Pokédex.
* If it were counted as a [[Legendary Pokémon]], Phione would have the lowest [[base stats|base stat total]] out of all Legendary Pokémon.

===Legendary status===
Phione's status as a [[Legendary Pokémon]] is disputed, with several pieces of evidence and even official statements often contradicting each other.

====Evidence for====
* In [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]: [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|Explorers of Time, Darkness]] and [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|Sky]], Phione has a 100% recruit rate, is never battled, and the player is not allowed to recruit more than one to their team, all of which are traits otherwise only exhibited by Legendary Pokémon.
* Phione is banned from the {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}}, the [[Battle Subway]] and the [[Pokémon World Tournament]], a rule which typically applies only to major and event Legendary Pokémon.
* Phione [[List of Pokémon that do not appear in any regional Pokédex|is not found in any regional Pokédex]], a trait that is otherwise exclusive to [[Generation IV]] Legendary Pokémon.
* In [[Pokémon Rumble Blast]], Phione can only be unlocked once a certain number of customers have shopped at the Toy Shop, a trait otherwise exclusive to Legendary Pokémon.
* Phione was featured in Pokémon.com's 2012 [http://www.pokemon.com/powerbracket/us/ Pokémon Power Bracket], a playoff of sorts where all other Pokémon in the bracket were Legendary Pokémon.
* The 2014 [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Details_for_international_tournament_featuring_Legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon_announced Battle of Legends] tournament categorizes Phione as a Legendary Pokémon.

====Evidence against====
* Phione can breed to produce another Phione; this is impossible with any other Legendary Pokémon.
* The official game guide to {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, made by [[The Pokémon Company International]], states that Phione is not Legendary.
* In [[Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs]], all Legendary Pokémon are referred to as "rare" or "Legendary", but Phione is not.
* Unlike Legendary Pokémon not native to [[Kalos]], Phione is needed in order to complete the [[National Pokédex]] in [[Pokémon X and Y]].

====Other====
* [[Pokémon.com]]'s mailbag was once asked if Phione was Legendary; the official answer was initially no, but was quickly changed to yes; the whole mailbag section has since been taken down with the restructure of Pokémon.com.

===Origin===
{{bulbanews|On the Origin of Species: Manaphy and Phione}}
Phione is probably based on {{wp|sea angel}}s, specifically {{wp|clione}}. Clione are remarkably popular in Japanese documentaries, especially in {{wp|Hokkaido}}, on which Sinnoh is based (this may also explain their appearance in [[Chocovine Town]]).

====Name origin====
Phione may be a combination of the final syllable of ''{{p|Manaphy}}'' and ''{{wp|clione}}'' (sea angels). Like clione, Phione is pronounced in three syllables.

==References==
<references/>

==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=water|type2=water
|ja=フィオネ ''Phione''|jameaning=From a combination of final syllable of ''{{p|Manaphy}}'' and ''clione'' (sea angels)
|de=Phione|demeaning=Same as Japanese name
|fr=Phione|frmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|es=Phione|esmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|it=Phione|itmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|ko=피오네 ''Phione''|komeaning=Transliteration of Japanese name
|zh_cmn=霏歐納 ''Fēi Ōu Nà''|zh_cmnmeaning=Transliteration of Japanese name
}}
 

==External links==

{{Legendary Pokémon}} 
{{PokémonPrevNext |type=water | prevnum=488 | nextnum=490 | prev=Cresselia |next=Manaphy}}
{{-}}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Promotion-only Pokémon]]
[[Category:Pokémon in no regional Pokédex]]

[[it:Phione]]
[[pt:Phione (pokémon)]]

[[de:Phione]]
[[es:Phione]]
[[fr:Phione]]
[[ja:フィオネ]]
[[pl:Phione]]
[[zh:霏欧纳]]

Magic Bounce (Ability)

2014-06-20T09:57:53Z

Shepeedy: /* Intro */

{{AbilityInfobox
|name=Magic Bounce
|jpname=マジックミラー
|jptranslit=Majikku Mirā
|jptrans=Magic Mirror
|colorscheme=psychic
|gen=5
|text5=Reflects status-changing moves.
|text6=Reflects status moves.
}}
'''Magic Bounce''' (Japanese: '''マジックミラー''' ''Magic Mirror'') is an [[Ability]] introduced in [[Generation V]]. Five {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} can have this Ability.

==Effect==
===In battle===
Reflects the effect of all stat lowering [[status moves]] (excluding {{m|Memento}}), non-damaging [[Status condition]] inducing moves, [[List of moves that cause entry hazards|entry hazard moves]], moves like {{m|Taunt}} and {{m|Torment}}, and so on back to the user. Does not affect targets with {{a|Teravolt}}, {{a|Turboblaze}}, or {{a|Mold Breaker}}. Magic Bounce will only activate once a turn. If two opposing Pokémon have this Ability only the target's Magic Bounce will reflect the move (i.e. the move will only be reflected once).
If a Pokémon with this ability is not on the field due to being in the semi-invulnerable turn of Fly, Magic Bounce will not activate.

Magic Bounce reflects the same moves that {{m|Magic Coat}} does.

===Outside of battle===
Magic Bounce has no effect outside of battle.

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Talk:Generation VI

2014-05-10T17:42:33Z

Shepeedy: /* New trivia */

{{forums notice|November 30, 2014}}

The redirect here needs to be suppressed, now that gen VI has been announced. [[User:Digifiend|Digifiend]] ([[User talk:Digifiend|talk]]) 12:49, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

== X and Y. ==

Since this is going to be a full 3D (instead of {{tt|2.5D|2.5D is when something is made to look 3D, but is actually 2D}})... X and Y (as well Z) are the coordinates in 3D. X is horizontal, Y is vertical and Z is depth. Kinda neat reference. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 14:47, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:*Cool theory. Wouldn't be surprised if they did. But for all we know they might do what they did with Generation V and come out with an "X2" and "Y2". But I like your idea. ^_^ ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 00:46, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
::WOW, Marked I thought of exactly the same (before reading this talk page). But there's more! Remember Palkia and Dialga? Well, they're the beings of space and time, huh? Well, remeber Reshiram, Zekrom and Kyurem? The dragons of truth, ideals and dreams? Now it gets tricky, remember the differences between Black (2) and White (2)? Old Opelucid, new Opelucid, old way of growing vegetables in Mistralton, new way of growing vegetables in Mistralton? Where, or WHEN, do people find the truth, find their ideals or have dreams about those two? In the past, the future and the present! Wait that has to do with time! Wait Dialga has to do with time! And wth, in the Cartesian coordinate system x and y and z (there's always a third one, of course) represent the 3 dimensions of space! Wait did I say space? Wait Palkia has to do with Space! [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 19:41, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:::On other hand, considering DNA helises in Japanese logos... If they're going by sequels again, we can expect Pokémon W and Pokémon Z. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 20:36, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
::::This page is not meant for speculation. Please take this conversation over to the forums. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 21:01, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:::::Pokemaster I was just going to add this: 'You would expect four legendary mascots!? Well, there are a billion ways for the Pokémon developers to make sequels (if they're not going for a third version once again) without having to create four legends. Like what they did with Kyurem, or maybe they'll give X and Y a new form, so discussing about that won't get you anywhere obvious, and then you'll start speculating...' But pokemaster, can we add the relation between the Caresian coordinate system and the new 3d games on the page? [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 21:08, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
::::::The staff decided that we will not be adding any trivia about the Caresian coordinate system at this time. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 22:58, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

==A few errors==
There should be a dot after the Eiffel Tower part. Also, surely the last sentence is supposed to say '''five''' previous generations, not four. [[User: Ariano|Արիանո]] 16:33, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Or rather I would say "the regions preceding it". [[User: Ariano|Արիանո]] 16:39, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Fixed. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 19:51, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

== Not "versions"! ==

Just to point out - it's been made clear in the Pokémon Direct that X and Y are the first two main series games without "Version" in their titles. In other words, they are not "Pokémon X Version and Pokémon Y Version", but "Pokémon X and Pokémon Y". Could this page please be edited to reflect this departure? [[User:NP Chilla|NP Chilla]] ([[User talk:NP Chilla|talk]]) 17:36, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:[http://www.thesixthaxis.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/PokemonXY8-1024x640.jpg This shows them as X Version and Y Version], so it still follows the tradition, even if unofficially. For now we won't be changing it. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 19:51, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
== problem ==

it says they '''were''' released as a pair [[User:Pikachu Bros.|Pikachu Bros.]] ([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|talk]]) 19:09, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Fixed. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 19:51, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

== With this confirmation... ==

that means that Generation V is the first Generation that does not have a solitary version? {{unsigned|Deruffy}}
:Don't count your chickens before they hatch{{tt|.|This is a proverb; though technically I didn't know about this one, but I knew about its counterpart in my language}} Considering that they made sequels instead of third version, we can't be sure about anything. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 20:48, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

== Region inspiration ==

"The new region draws inspiration from France" should probably be changed to "The new region appears to draw inspiration from France" until we've seen more of it. There might well just be an Eiffel Tower replica plunked into a PokeCalifornia or something. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 21:24, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:I agree with you on this point. It's honestly too soon to be jumping to conclusions. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 21:42, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
::I think, if I were being really pedantic, even "Appears to draw inspiration from France" could be a little misleading, because it makes it sound like it'll all be France. There are deserts in the trailer, how many deserts does France have? That's more quintessentially Spanish. I'd say the new region "appears to have drawn inspiration from European landmarks, such as the Eiffel Tower in France." But even then, European landmarks is conjecture. Relatively safe conjecture, but still, minefield!! Only thing we can really say is that there's a tower in it that looks a bit French. How do you translate that into Bulbapese? [[User:Constantmotion|Constantmotion]] ([[User talk:Constantmotion|talk]]) 00:42, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:::Actually, I just watched the trailer back, and the moment where Pikachu shoots lightning across the world, you can see it originates somewhere in Europe. I found this interesting, and given this conversation, an observation perhaps to be worth noting. [[User:Rassilon of Old|'''Rassilon of Old''']] ([[User talk:Rassilon of Old|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rassilon_of_Old|Contribs]]) 01:13, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:::: I also agree with "appears to have drawn inspiration from European landmarks, such as the Eiffel Tower in France.", since there are many monuments similar to the ones we can see in the trailer, like Blackpool tower in or Buckingam Palace in England, aswell as the radio tower in Alexanderplatz in Berlin, or the city architecture in Italy. [[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 19:32, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
::::Good thing that you mentioned the trailer because, if anything, it only serves as further evidence that the games draw inspiration from France because Pikachu is seen actually standing atop the Eiffel tower. People who keep mentioning "how many deserts does France have?" are pretty ridiculous when you take into account the fact that Game Freak has taken a huge amount of artistic freedom in the past (i.e. Unova Route 4). [[User:Gacs|Gacs]] ([[User talk:Gacs|talk]]) 07:47, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
:::::This discussion has trailed off into idle speculation. Please use [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f693/ the forums] to carry out this discussion. This topic is being dropped as the page refers to Europe instead of France. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 10:52, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

== reveal time. ==

Can we say this generation has the fastest reveal time after a game of the previous generation was released?[[User:Deoxys80|Deoxys80]] ([[User talk:Deoxys80|talk]]) 01:02, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

The space between Gen I and Gen II was quite short too in Japan if I recall [[User:KennyMc0294|KennyMc0294]] ([[User talk:KennyMc0294|talk]]) 01:19, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
:Looking at the infoboxes in our articles (which give the exact length in days), Generation I was about 350 days longer than Generation V in Japan, but about 60 days shorter in the US. By the way, KennyMc0294, you can sign your posts with four tildes (~) instead of having to type it out manually. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:27, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

=="3 new"?==
Shouldn't the sidebar say 5 new? They may not be named, but the legendaries shown certainly count as separate, new Pokémon. {{unsigned|Gadvac}}
:It's based on how many Pokémon articles are in the Gen VI category. The Legendary Pokémon don't currently have names, so it's impossible to create an article for them. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:46, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
They were recently revealed with the deer-like Pokémon being Xerneas and the bird-like Pokémon being Yvetal. {{unsigned|Plusleminun311312}}

==No images?==
Can we get some images of the new overworld/battle system in the gallery, or is there a page where they already exist? -[[User:Wohdin|Wohdin]] ([[User talk:Wohdin|talk]]) 05:13, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:They're on [[Pokémon X and Y Versions]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:14, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

== Xerneas and Yveltal ==

Names of the X and Y mascots just confirmed: http://www.pokemon.com/pokemonxy/en-us/ [[User:NP Chilla|NP Chilla]] ([[User talk:NP Chilla|talk]]) 14:16, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

"Nintendo of America has revealed the names of the two Legendary Pokemon which will feature in the forthcoming Pokemon X and Pokemon Y for the Nintendo 3DS. The Pokemon X Legendary is called Xerneas, which is pronounced Zurr-nee-us. The Pokemon Y mascot is called Yveltal, which is pronounced ee-vell-tall." {{unsigned|BritLucifer}}

== Genetic Generation? ==

Even ignoring that it would be a reference to 3D axes if there were a Pokémon Z, the selling point of this generation is that it is the first generation to be 3D in every sense of the word. I think that's how people will remember this gen, so I thought we would be calling it the 3D generation, similar to how Generation III was called the Advance Generation. X and Y don't have special meaning in genetics outside of sex chromosomes. Even without a Pokémon Z I'd say it's more a reference to the mathematical variables that are used to establish two different things, than to genetics. Like how Black and White are used as metaphors for things that are opposite. That was actually my first reaction when I found out the names of the games, as "Pokémon X and Y" could be used as a term to refer to paired versions in general. Well, what I'm saying is that I would call it the 3D generation. Feel free to disagree, but it would be better than "Genetic Generation". [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 15:48, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:I agree to an extent - while it is possible it's to do with genetics, it's a bit of a stretch to call it Genetic Generation at such an early point in conception. Also, it does seem a bit less likely for it to be genetics (after all, if it truly were about sex chromosomes, it should be XX and XY, not X and Y. My first thoughts personally were co-ordinates, but that could be wrong, too). Either way, as a wiki, speculation shouldn't be added as fact, right? Thus, "Genetic Generation" should be moved until there is hard evidence that the X and Y do, in fact, represent sex genes. [[User:LordSchmee|LordSchmee]] ([[User talk:LordSchmee|talk]]) 16:00, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
::Do not forget that [[Generation IV]] is already called the 3D generation (even though this Generation is gonna be more 3D than Gen IV) and that there's a small string of DNA in the Japanese logo's of the Games. ☼ Blazing[[User talk:Blazingfist|Fist ☼]] 16:04, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
::: Well, I guess if there's already a 3D generation we'll just have to leave it until people actually start calling this generation something or Bulbapedia calling it genetic generation carries over to people calling it that, whichever comes first. At least I know why it's called that here now. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 16:26, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:Who comes up with these names anyway? I've only ever heard of "Advanced Generation" (which was used in promotion). Everything else seems to be made up. --[[User:Dorsal Axe|Dorsal Axe]] ([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]]) 16:22, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
::I don't think gen VI should be called genetic generation without confirmation. The names of the previous generations had some relation to (at least) the primary paired versions. For e.g., gen II was Metal Generation(Gold and Silver). So the name should have some relation the primary paired versions.[[User:Auraguardian197|'''Auraguardian''']][[User talk:Auraguardian197|'''197''']] 17:22, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:::[[:a:File:X Version logo Jp.png|The "n" in Pocket Monster clearly represents a strand of DNA.]] Therefore, it's obvious they're referring to the chromosomes, and not the axes. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 17:27, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
::::Incidentally, there's a 3D pokeball in the logo and it also uses 3D text. That being said, calling it the "coordinates generation" or something would just be asinine. --[[User:Dorsal Axe|Dorsal Axe]] ([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]]) 17:46, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

:Could it not easily be referencing both? x & y coordinates relating to mathematics, 3D graphics, etc as well as X & Y chromosomes relating to DNA, evolution, pokedarwinism, etc. Also, x and y aren't opposite, they're orthogonal. In fact, none of the version names have been truly "opposite" except MAYBE black and white. --[[User:BritLucifer|BritLucifer]] ([[User talk:BritLucifer|talk]]) 18:19, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
::To quote Pokemaster97 (from above), "The staff decided that we will not be adding any trivia about the Caresian coordinate system at this time." So, let's just wait until more info comes out. [[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|☆]][[User:GamerGeek|Gamer]][[User talk:GamerGeek|Geek]][[Special:Log/GamerGeek|☆]] 22:40, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

"'''YES''', Generation VI is confirmed. '''PLEASE DO NOT ADD SPECULATION TO PAGES.''' As soon as information is confirmed by a reliable source, it will be added."
Because Gen. VI being the "Genetic Generation" is obviously a confirmed fact. I don't understand why it is still there. '''*~Darklight~*''' 13:13, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

:I'm so sorry to disagree, but this is bothering me too. ''None'' of this is confirmed by any reliable source. We can't be sure what that graphic above the n means. I personally think that stating this is the "Genetic Generation" is too bold and premature. If anything, I think both theories are correct; the one on the side of it being the first 3D generation of Pokémon games, and maybe something to do with DNA, that I agree, is present in the Japanese logos of the games anyway. I think it shouldn't be added to the page until something more, like a preview of the games or a glimpse of the next series is out, to see which theory was the closest or actually correct. Come on, we can wait. [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] ([[User talk:YukitoOoO|talk]]) 04:20, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

== no longer 3 ==

Hi, i was just wondering if someone can change the '3 new' hyperlink on the Pokemon section of the side bit, seeing as there's now 5 named Pokemon instead of 3; i'd do it myself but the page is locked, thanks [[User:Azure42|Azure/ChromeVoid42]] ([[User talk:Azure42|talk]]) 19:00, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:Click the clock at the top of the site. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 19:26, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

== UK and Aussie Release ==

You guys forgot to mark the template so that it shows the UK and Aussie release as October 2013 as well. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:04, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

== "Starters" ==

Is there any confirmation that Chespin, Fennekin, and Froakie are the starters? After the last two generations, it's been proven that we can't assume anything. [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 03:45, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
:[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/01/08/meet-your-pok-233-mon-x-and-y-starters.aspx Yes they are]. [[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|☆]][[User:GamerGeek|Gamer]][[User talk:GamerGeek|Geek]][[Special:Log/GamerGeek|☆]] 23:06, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
::It's been confirmed on [http://www.pokemon.com/pokemonxy/en-us the official Pokémon website] as well. [[User:Mathfreak231|--Mathfreak231]] ([[User talk:Mathfreak231|talk]]) 14:18, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

== Advances in gameplay ==

The only thing in that subtopic is info about the graphics. Retitle? [[User:Ampere|Ampere]] ([[User talk:Ampere|talk]]) 04:34, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
:It's going to have more information added when more information comes out. --[[User:Funktastic~!|It's Funktastic~!]] ([[User talk:Funktastic~!|talk]]) 04:45, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

== Link Troubles ==

On some pages, when reading the 'YES, Generation VI is confirmed.' part, the 'Generation VI' is not a link, merely in bold writing, one such page is the page for Last Resort (Sorry for the lack of link to page, not good with links!).[[User:TurtleLover1999|TurtleLover1999]] ([[User talk:TurtleLover1999|talk]]) 18:54, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
:I think that you mean to put this on the [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] talk page as it seems to be what you are referring to. Hope that helps a bit. :) --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:13, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
::I don't seem to be getting this problem. Is it still happening? '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 15:04, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
:::No,I don't think so. I checked last resort article and the link is working.[[User:Auraguardian197|'''Auraguardian''']][[User talk:Auraguardian197|'''197''']] 16:17, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

== article for ninfia ==

could we have an article of the recent announced pokemon, "Ninfia"{{unsigned|Dragon146}}
:[[User:S2daam/Ninfia (Pokémon)|Already is one]]. It is just not in the mainspace right now. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 19:18, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
Today his English name was announced by the Pokémon Company - it's '''Sylveon'''. [[User:NP Chilla|NP Chilla]] ([[User talk:NP Chilla|talk]]) 13:08, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

== Sylveon ==

I think Sylveon should be added to the page as the 4th Generation VI Pokémon to have been revealed/announced. [[User:CounterShift|CounterShift]] ([[User talk:CounterShift|talk]]) 02:25, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant 6th Pokémon. Xerneas and Yveltal appeared first. [[User:CounterShift|CounterShift]] ([[User talk:CounterShift|talk]]) 02:31, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

== Some trivia to be added... ==

The Japanese logo of the Pokémon games has been changed once again for Generation VI's releases. ~~'''''[[User:LDEJRuff|LDE]][[User talk:LDEJRuff|JRuff]]'''''~~ 5:11, 23 February, 2013 (UTC)

==Some pretty obvious trivia==

This is the first time the same games are being released at the same time in Japan and the US. Infernapefan95 00:37, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
:It would be better to wait until we have an official release date. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 03:40, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

== Pokemon Sprites/Models ==

After the game is released, are all Pokemon models going to replace the existing sprites (on the site)?
Or just the Gen. 6? [[User:Garyoak|Garyoak]] ([[User talk:Garyoak|talk]]) 01:07, 10 March 2013 (UTC) !
:We can't give a definitive answer right now. They might still use sprites for say the Pokédex or something. We won't know for sure until the games are released. If there are just models, it's possible the sprites will be replaced. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 01:14, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

== An Error On The Page ==

The page says that "For the first time, the Pokemon games will be in full 3D." However, Pokemon Coliseum was also completely in 3D, can one of you admins change it to say something like, "For the first time since Pokemon Coliseum, the games will be in full 3D." {{unsigned|Cowsaidmoo}}
:This point is referring to the main series. Colosseum (as well as Stadium 0, 1, 2; XD; and PBR which you missed) is not a main series game. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:25, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
::Personally I kind of agree with Cowsaidmoo, could you change it to say "For the first time, the ''main series'' Pokémon games will be in full 3D."{{unsigned|IVsaur}}

== "(6 new)" ==

The page mentions that there are only 6 new pokémon, but they recently revealed the rumored new mewtwo form as a new pokémon as opposed to a mewtwo form, so it should have it's own page, and this page should state that there are 7 new pokémon.
[[User:Kitty Box|Kitty Box]] ([[User talk:Kitty Box|talk]]) 23:34, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
:It has not been given a name yet, nor has it been revealed that it is either a new Pokémon or just a form of Mewtwo. When Black Kyurem and White Kyurem where announced, they were presented as new Pokémon first too. You can't definitely say it is a new Pokémon. So unless there will be confirmation about its status, it won't get a page, nor will anything be changed regarding it on this page. ☼ Blazing[[User talk:Blazingfist|Fist ☼]] 23:46, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
::That number also automatically updates depending on the number of articles in the {{cat|Generation VI Pokémon}} cat, so it can't be manually changed to reflect current numbers without an addition to the category. So even if it's revealed that it's a brand new pokémon, that number will not change unless we have a name to make an article into (ergo upping the number in the category from 6 to 7). [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 23:59, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

==Grammar mistake==
The opening line of the article, "The sixth generation of Pokémon, is the sixth installment of the Pokémon series," should not contain a comma between Pokemon and is. The comma adds nothing and doesn't make grammatical sense.
[[User:Ransomedsquirrel|Ransomedsquirrel]] ([[User talk:Ransomedsquirrel|talk]]) 01:46, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
:I agree...I removed it. Thank you :) [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 01:54, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

== "For the first time in the main series, the games will be in full 3D"? ==

In the article, it says that X & Y will be "For the first time in the main series, the games will be in full 3D". Isn't this an incorrect statement due to [[Pokémon Colosseum]] and [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]]? {{unsigned|?????}} 19:40, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

No. It says '''main series'''

[[User:Pokemon nomekop|Pokemon nomekop]] ([[User talk:Pokemon nomekop|talk]]) 01:32, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
:Colosseum and XD ''are'' main series as far as Bulbapedia is concerned. (They're included on the "main series" template at the bottom of any main series game, and have "Generation III main series" listed in their articles' infoboxes.) The sentence should either be removed to changed to something like "The games will be the first main series games in full 3D on a handheld console". [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 01:51, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
::Yeah, it means hand held games. If it meant the main series in general, Pokemon Stadium would've preceded that by miles away. I would re-write it but I think you should get what the sentence is trying to say anyway given what the article is about (i.e. Hand held games).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:28, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Stadium, Colosseum, XD and other similar games should be referred to as "side series" games of Bulbapedia (distinct from both "main series" and "spin-off"). This was decided back in 2011, it's just that the terminology was never really fully implemented. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:11, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
::::If it's not gonna be "fully implemented", it might as well not have been decided at all. As the wiki pages currently stand, ColoXD and the Stadium games are main series, so if they're not corrected we might as well go back to the old definition, because apparently nobody cares enough about it. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:49, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
:::::Previously nobody had decided whether they were main series or not. Plenty of people insisted they were main series, and plenty insisted they were spin-offs. Thus, we needed to create this third category. They were referred to as both spin-offs and main series games on Bulbapedia prior to this agreement, so there is nothing to revert to. All we need now is for them to actually be properly referred to. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:58, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
::::::The "spin-off" template is currently labelled "side series". The template's current content aside, that's the name of their target classification anyway, so they should be moved there. If no one else will make the changes, I will. Is there anything that needs editing besides the templates themselves and the infoboxes/templates on the games' pages? (There should probably be a new page called "Side series Pokémon games" in the vein of the current "Spin-off Pokémon games", but I don't really know any of the basics about starting articles, so I'll leave that to someone else.) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 07:05, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
::::::Oh! You already started editing the games' pages. I went ahead and changed the templates. Anything else I can do? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 07:09, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

== Region ==
Someone change the region to Karosu, because for some reason I cannot.

The region is called Karosu, for some reason I cannot edit this in. {{unsigned|TheJaceX}}

:The English name is now Kalos, but the article is protected, so only admins can edit the page. [[User:SpecialStageRoute|Special Stage Route]] ([[User talk:SpecialStageRoute|pit stop]]) 13:31, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

== Debut time ==

Since it's debuting in the same time for English and Japanese, wouldn't it make sense to remove the "En" and "Jp" as sub boxes? --[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] ([[User talk:Phoenixon|talk]]) 13:47, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
:Those are part of the template so they can't be removed without throwing it off. Besides, we don't know yet if they games are being released on the same day just yet. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 23:27, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
::Hoennmaster, I don't really think that something could be a sub of something else just because it is released a single day later... If the games go through development at the same time, I think that their would be an obvious case of both being the original. However, I don't think that the English translaters actually write some of the text fully by themselves. So I guess it's still a sub after all. I mean, I don't expect both games being written respectively and telling a totally different story... [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 19:42, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
:::Development has nothing to do with this, it's the restrictions of the current template. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 06:58, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
::::I can understand that HoennMaster, but I just don't agree with the part where you say: 'Besides, we don't know yet if the(y) games are being released on the same day just yet.'. I just don't think that not being released on the same day, could be an argument for it being a sub. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 18:09, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
:::::There's not argument to be had, as I have already said, that is how the template is set up. A new template would have to be made to have just one release date. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 02:44, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
:::::: Yes, yes, yes HoennMaster, I understand and accept that! Even before I said anything on this page. However the point of the games having to be released on the same day to not be a sub, doesn't make sense to me. But it DOES make sense to me that we use the current template. And with argument I meant 'point' and not 'discussion'. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 17:16, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
(resetting indent) I'm guessing that he doesn't understand what you mean by a "sub". If they aren't released on the same day, then it needs to have both boxes shown, because even one day of difference should be shown by us. If we use the current template, it'll have both boxes shown regardless. I'm not quite sure where you disagree. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 17:42, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
:I understand what he is saying (although as said, you aren't being clear on what you mean by saying "sub"), but he's bringing up irrelevant things that don't have anything to do with the original question. The original question was answered in the first post and then got derailed. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 17:46, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

MyNintendoNews reports a global release on October 12, 2013. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 22:02, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
::Yeah, so after all it is not a sub or 'translation'. And even if they weren't released on the same day, they wouldn't be. Because they went through development at the same time. And I'm not bringing up irrelevant things, because I replied to the second sentence said by HoennMaster, and the first one answered the first question. So if anything said by me was irrelevant, then it is al HM's doing, because then his second sentence was irrelevant, and the second sentence of HM led to all of my comments. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 19:10, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Just my two cents to hopefully wind this argument down: Much of the confusion seems to have stemmed from the fact that Phoenixon and HoennMaster were using "sub" as in "sub-boxes" to mean "boxes within boxes" within the "Debut" field in the infobox, and Nickvang was using a non-standard definition of "sub" to mean "a version that is derivational of the original version", and neither of you fully/clearly explained your choice of words to the other, so I think there was confusion as to what people were trying to say. Nickvang, HoennMaster appears to think you were bringing up "irrelevant" things because the article was entirely about the template until you brought up developmental things with a different use of the word "sub".
:::I know that explaining everything step-by-step here probably sounds a little condescending, but I really don't mean it like that; it just seems like both sides are misunderstanding what the other's saying, so I thought it would be helpful to clarify how I see it. Sorry if this is intruding on the conversation. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:58, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

== New Pokémon ? ==
I actually found this "new Pokémon" accidentally and I don't know if this Pokémon are coming in Generation VI. It's possible, but I don't know. Here are the three sources I found from "possible" Pokémon from Gneeration VI:
*https://www.facebook.com/NotoriousNoctowl - As pre-evolution from Drowzee.
*http://pokejungle.net/2013/04/02/wtfake-first-light-type-pokemon-revealed/ - One Pokémon is fake according to this source and another Pokémon, the first evolution from Sableye.
*http://jackfrostoverland.deviantart.com/art/News-about-the-6th-4-News-Pokemon-356563600

As I said before, I don't know if this Pokémon are new, but it would be great to hear so. --[[User:Station7|Station7]] ([[User talk:Station7|talk]]) 12:59, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
:"April 2, 2013" - yeaaaah... I saw that bird picture posted as an April Fools' material. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 13:07, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
::The Drowzee pre-evolution is fake. The Pokejungle page is actually explaining how we know it is fake, so I'm confused why you even linked this. The deviantArt post mentions that he now knows they are fake anyway. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:13, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
:::I don't speak Japanese, so I didn't know if they were real or fake. That's why I linked all those pages here. --[[User:Station7|Station7]] ([[User talk:Station7|talk]]) 14:14, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
::::But all the linked pages were in English. You don't need to read the Japanese to understand them. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:30, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

== Advances in Gameplay ==

There are a few more, like Pokemon-Amie and Fairy type. Under Pokemon it could also say "At least <nowiki>{{numpkmn}}</nowiki>". [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 00:45, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

== article count if off ==

The article still says 13 new Pokémon, the count so far is 19 [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 13:15, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
:It's automated. It lists the number of articles we have in the {{cat|Generation VI Pokémon}} category. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:05, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Weird, for some reason it kept showing up as 13, which it was the last count before the other 6 Pokémon were added. Oh well, its 19 now so that's all that counts. I guess it was some weird Tech crap dealing with cache or some other technical problem with chrome. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 16:19, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

== Leaked info ==

[[http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/244478/412#bbspost24680777_post_text| Leaked Pokémon info]] Hopefully they don't lose their job over this... So if this is correct, that means this generation will be the first to feature a Fire/Dragon, Fire/Psychic (starter type), and a few other new combinations. What are your thoughts of this? ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 01:03, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
:As a matter of policy, Bulbapedia doesn't post leaks or rumors until they're substantiated by official Nintendo/Game Freak/TPCi/etc confirmation. If you're just looking for discussion, you should go to the forums, because talk pages are meant solely for discussion of how to improve the article. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 01:37, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
::Will keep that in mind, apologies about that. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 01:46, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Just to clear things up before anyone gets confused: Gen5 introduced the first Fire/Dragon type Pokémon: Reshiram. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 16:55, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
::::Actually, that's wrong, Reshiram's typing is Dragon/Fire, there hasn't been a Fire type with a secondary Dragon type as of yet [[User:Azure42|Azure/ChromeVoid42]] ([[User talk:Azure42|talk]]) 16:57, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
:::::The so-called 'leaked info' is false and pure fan speculation. Note how they claim {{p|Scatterbug}} and {{p|Spewpa}} would be part-{{t|Fairy}}, yet both are pure {{t|Bug}}-types instead. Wouldn't you think that if they were an insider, they would have predicted the types correctly? --[[User:Relicant|'''Reli'''★'''ジーランス''']]'''?''' 17:05, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
::::::Azure42, I hope you understand that Fire/Dragon and Dragon/Fire are considered the same type combination by game mechanics. The Pokémon will get the same STABs, weaknesses and resistances. And still, it is quite confusing to say that Fire/Dragon is a new type-combination, without nothing you also count the order of the types. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 17:30, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Actually that's wrong, by that logic Helioptile is Normal/Electric, which is wrong as it's the first to have Normal as its Secondary type, the order can specify if it's an original type combination. It's general syntax, so instead of saying that it's the first Fire/Dragon, the trivia would note that it's the first Fire type to have Dragon as a Secondary type [[User:Azure42|Azure/ChromeVoid42]] ([[User talk:Azure42|talk]]) 17:49, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
::::::::[[List of Pokémon with unique type combinations|Bulbapedia considers Dragon/Fire and Fire/Dragon to be the same combination in terms of uniqueness, as they share the same battle properties.]] - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 18:13, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
::::::::oh...okay then my bad everyone [[User:Azure42|Azure/ChromeVoid42]] ([[User talk:Azure42|talk]]) 18:20, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::However, just to wrap things up, Bulbapedia could note it when a type is used as a pure, secondary or primary type for the first time. But in that case, the type combination itself is of no importance at all. (Tornadus is the first pure Flying-type, Noivern is the first Pokémon to have Flying as its primary type and Helioptile is the first Pokémon to have Normal as its secondary type.) [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 20:13, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

== Only natural hair color so far. ==

Did anyone notice that all of the characters confirmed until now only had real-existing, natural hair colors? Calem has brown hair, Serena dark blonde, Shauna brown, Tierno black (if it isn't a hat...), Trevor brownish-red, Alexa brown and Viola brownish-blonde. All of these hair colors exist in real life (without needing paint). I'm only doubting about the lass, does she have blonde or green hair? So, could it be noted that all confirmed characters until now have natural hair colors, or do we need to wait until we know the hair color of every single character from generation six before adding anything at all? [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 17:05, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
:I don't think that's particularly notable at all. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 17:07, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
::Well, I'm sure it would be notable if this was the first ever generation to only release characters with natural hair-colors. I mean, the characters are anime, so pink, blue, green, purple, whatever hair-colors are normal. That's why it would be notable if this generation only introduced characters with brown, black, grey, red and blonde hair. Also, all of the eye-colors so far are natural too. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 17:11, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
:::It's not. And the game isn't even out yet. We still have a lot more characters to introduce. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 17:15, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
::::Alright, so I've got an answer to my question: 'we'll have to wait until we see more characters'. However, no one would make this note: 'Generation six is the first ever generation in the whole Pokémon series to only introduce characters with natural, real-existing hair- and eye-colors. This is in contrast to most anime-styled game-series, as they normally contain characters with non-natural, not-existing hair- and eye-colors.' if every character has natural, real-existing hair- and eye-colors? That would be weird, very weird. As some things noted in trivia are far less important! [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 17:25, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
:::::[[:a:File:XY Prerelease PSS lower screen.png|Purple hair isn't natural]]. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 18:06, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

==Fairy Type==

Shouldn't a note about the Fairy-type be added to this page similar to how the Generation II page mentions the introduction of Dark and Steel? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 06:37, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

== More Info ==

Is anyone going to add anything to to this page? I mean I know everything hasn't been revealed about the main games, but the sky battles, hoard battles, the fairy type, the legendary types and more info regarding the pokemon itself, the game itself and more has been released. It should be on here. I mean Pokemon X and Y have more info regarding the new generation than this page itself! And again, I know not everything has been revealed, and won't be for months to come, but what is known and revealed should be updated nicely and neatly on this page! But that is just how I feel. I know eventually It will be updated, but still it looks lame right now! I would do it myself, but I'd rather an admin do it so it won't be removed! {{unsigned|Demers-Vachon}}
:Even if you did intend to do it yourself, you couldn't. The page is locked to everyone except admins to prevent speculation and spam. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:39, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

:: Yes i realized that after, but my I stand by what I said above, it only makes sense. At least to me anyways! :-) {{unsigned|Demers-Vachon}}

== amount of gen 6 pokemon miscounting ==

there are 29 gen 6 pokemon announced right now not 28. [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 20:10, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
:The infobox is automated to give the number of articles in the {{cat|Generation VI Pokémon}} category. There's no need to bring the matter up on the talk page, as there's literally no way for us to change the number except by making/removing articles; if you see a problem like this, you should instead identify the Pokémon that isn't included and ask that its article be created. In this case, it seems the problem is that [[User:S2daam/Oorotto (Pokémon)|Oorotto]] is still in the userspace because it hasn't had much info (including its Sugimori art) revealed, so it's not counting toward the number of articles in the category. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 20:19, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

== Edit request: GenInfo ==

<nowiki>|storage={{pkmn|Bank}}</nowiki> - [[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]] 18:59, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

==Protection==

Can the indefinite protection be removed please. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 06:30, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

== Sprites ==

Is hard to get a imagen capture of a 3D model? --[[User:HoopsterJohn|HoopsterJohn]] ([[User talk:HoopsterJohn|talk]]) 00:45, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
:Beyond taking pictures, which are generally of unsuitable quality, the only way to get sprites from 3DS games is to use a capture device, which are very expensive, and most people don't have them. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 00:49, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
::Why don't we get the sprites from Serebii or ask them where they got them? --[[User:Togekiss4ever|Togekiss4ever]] ([[User talk:Togekiss4ever|talk]]) 05:59, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
:::We can't take Serebii's sprites because he does not allow us to. He got them because he has the type of capture device Funktastic mentioned above. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:05, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

== Would this be Trivia worthy? ==

Generation VI introduced the least amount of Legendary Pokémon with only 3.

--[[User:Ditto51|Tom]] ([[User_Talk:Ditto51|My Talk Page]]) 11:39, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
:Wait for event legends (even though there's supposedly three).--[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 12:33, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

== inverse battle ==

--[[User:Darkmaster|Darkmaster]] ([[User talk:Darkmaster|talk]]) 21:14, 2 November 2013 (UTC)Shouldn't inverse battles be include with the new battle formats? Can an admin please include this style?

Also, can one or another admin please change:

<code><nowiki>Like previous generations, the first installments, [[Pokémon X and Y]], will be released as a pair.</nowiki></code>

into:

<code><nowiki>It is about the first installments, [[Pokémon X and Y]], which was released as a pair.</nowiki></code>

[[User:SaturnMario|SaturnMario]], [[User talk:SaturnMario|his talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/SaturnMario|his contributions]] 21:47, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

I have not found inverse battle format anywhere in other games, making it a new format. Can someone PLEASE include it in the new battle formats?--[[User:Darkmaster|Darkmaster]] ([[User talk:Darkmaster|talk]]) 19:36, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

please?--[[User:Darkmaster|Darkmaster]] ([[User talk:Darkmaster|talk]]) 02:54, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Now that the page has become unprotected, I have added it on myself. Thank you for unprotecting the page, whover did it. To everyone else, thanks for nothing.[[User:Darkmaster|Darkmaster]] ([[User talk:Darkmaster|talk]]) 00:30, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

== Trivia for the Generation? ==

I think it might be worth noting, that Generation VI is the second Pokemon generation where completing the National Pokedex was impossible until the release of supplemental material (The Pokemon Bank app in this case) due to a lack of ability to directly communicate with the previous generation (the first time this occurred being Generation III, where the supplemental material was Emerald/Kanto Remakes and the Gamecube Games). [[User:Lugia61617|Lugia61617]] ([[User talk:Lugia61617|talk]]) 10:13, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
:Second to do something isn't notable; only first is. I do think, however, that it might be notable that this is the first time in which transfer from past games is (or rather, will be) possible but only with the help of supplemental material. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:35, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
::"Supplemental material" is a bit ambiguous; you need a link cable to transfer between Gen II and III, you need an original DS/DS Lite to transfer between Gen III and IV, you need 2 DS/3DS systems to transfer between Gen IV and V. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:33, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
:::External program, then? This is the first time the requirement is software, right? --[[User:WyndFox|Wynd]] [[User talk:WyndFox|Fox]] 06:26, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

== Move/Ability/Stat changes ==

These are the ones I know off the top of my head.
* {{a|Infiltrator}} now goes through {{m|Substitute}}.
* {{a|Oblivious}} now ignores {{m|Taunt}}.

'Mon that got more base stats (10, as far as I know):
* {{p|Alakazam}}
* {{p|Butterfree}} and {{p|Beedrill}}
* {{p|Ampharos}}
(Serebii has more: http://www.serebii.net/xy/updatedstats.shtml)

Also, 'mon that changed abilities.
* {{p|Chandelure}} replaces its never-actually-available {{a|Shadow Tag}} with {{a|Infiltrator}}.

--[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] ([[User talk:Raijinili|talk]]) 00:44, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

== The name currently in use is NOT a fan designator ==

http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir_english/?m=201301 Check entry No.233 01.21.2013, it says "Pokémon X and Pokémon Y–the evolved sixth generation of Pokémon." towards the end of the press release. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 18:38, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
:Thought I couldn't remove it, but I could, so I removed it. I think we can remove it from gen I-V pages, too. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 09:58, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

::It is a fan designator, other generations use that template so why not? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 10:06, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
:::Did you read what I wrote in the first message? .-. Junichi Masuda called it ""sixth generation". [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 16:43, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
::::It's still a fan name. The sentence was merely saying the games were of the sixth generation of games, not naming them Generation VI. It shows that Masuda uses the term "generation" to describe groups of games; it ''doesn't'' show what he specifically calls each one. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 17:39, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::As Glik said, the Roman numerals are still a fan designator. If anything, this could be a precedent to move all our generation articles to "sixth generation", etc., instead of using Roman numerals. If we did so, though, we would have to make edits to pretty close to every single page on the wiki, though, so I'm not sure how reasonable it would be on such slim evidence. The Roman numerals are a core part of our in-house style's infrastructure. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:45, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
::::::Here in Italy, Roman numerals are read as "first", "second", etc; it appears it's not the case in English-speaking countries. Anyway, do as you wish, the meaning of "Pokémon X and Pokémon Y–the evolved sixth generation of Pokémon." seems quite clear to me, it refers to the games and, obviously, to the Pokémon they introduced. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 14:09, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::::"Generation VI" and "GenVI" are both fan designators for what is currently "Pokémon X and Pokémon Y", an official term. "Sixth generation" ''might'' be able to be ''considered'' official, but I personally believe that Bulbapedia should keep the "Generation ''foo''" names, given that only GenVI would have an official name, and I favor consistancy in page naming. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 01:14, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

== Legendary Pokémon ==

Is this the generation with the fewest Legendary Pokémon ever, or for now? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 05:36, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
:Yes, it has the fewest legendary Pokémon as the three hidden legendary aren't official. Next time, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Generation_VI&curid=26812&diff=2071784&oldid=2071783 do pay attention] to the edit summaries as uses may explain their edits in the summaries.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:38, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
::There's still no reason for us to go out of the way to state something that, while not yet officially wrong, is still likely to be wrong. I strongly think it would be better for us to just not say one way or the other until either they're revealed or Gen 6 ends. We do not suffer at all by omitting a trivium about something as negligible as which generation has the fewest Legendaries, but we ''do'' suffer lowered credibility when something we say is later proven objectively false. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:42, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
:::As of this moment, Generation VI introduced the fewest Legendary Pokémon. However, I believe that Generation VI might have introduced the fewest non-hidden Legendaries. That could be put in the trivia (reminds me, I should "compress" what is here) once someone figures out a good term for it (Primary Legendaries? Initial Legendaries?) [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 01:21, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

== Foot Prints ==

should it be mentioned that the foot print feature of the Pokédex has been removed?[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 20:34, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

== "No Legendary Trio" ==

I hate to break it to ya guys, but Zygarde is THE most blatantly OBVIOUS Rayquaza Expy to have ever existed. Here's a few things to note here:

*Zygarde has a Green color scheme, while Xerneas and Yveltal have a Blue and Red coloration to match the RGB Color Palette.
*Xerneas and Yveltal are both designed based on the letters X and Y, and the first letters in their names are even those same letters. Zygarde not only is shaped in the manner of a Z due to being a serpent, but also has it's name begin with the letter Z.
*Zygarde's signature ability, Aura Break, ONLY effects Fairy Aura and Dark Aura, which are ONLY known to be available to Xerneas and Yveltal. This isn't too different from Rayquaza in how it cancels out the abilities of the other two members of the trio.
*Xerneas is the Life Pokemon, Yveltal is the Destruction Pokemon, and Zygarde is the Order Pokemon.
*It's PokeDex Entries don't make reference to the other two, but bare in mind, neither did Rayquaza, Giratina, or Kyurem had any references to the others until their versions were released.

Overall, with that in mind, that would make the Mortality Duo the Mortality TRIO if anything else. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] ([[User talk:Shiramu Kuromu|talk]]) 14:00, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
:Yes, we can assume it, but we can't confirm it just yet. Not until the games or the anime makes the connection with the three. This is the same with Kyurem and Giratina before it, we didn't count them as part of their trio until the anime/games confirmed it.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:10, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
::The games already have. It's called '''Aura Break''' in case you forgot, or simply chose not to read my explanation. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] ([[User talk:Shiramu Kuromu|talk]]) 15:13, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
:::Yes, the ability is indeed called Aura Break, and yes, it does indeed only affect the Mortality Duo's abilities, and yes, the rest of your points all make some sense. But on the topic of "not reading" what someone said, that would be your own problem. Had you actually ''read'' Force Fire's response, you would notice he said that there has been no ''direct mention'' that they are a Trio, and that all we can do is ''assume''. The ability existing is not ''direct'' confirmation. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 16:15,2/20/2014 (UTC)

== Using Items ==

In Black, I was battling the Striaton Gym Leader, and it said "Leader Chili used THE Potion."

Now in Y, it says something along the lines of, "Champion Diantha used A Full Restore." Is this something minor they changed, or did they change "the" to "a" in B2/W2 (since this is just Black)? [[User:Lithos141|Lithos141]] ([[User talk:Lithos141|talk]]) 22:56, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

== Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire ==

These games do not have "Version" in their titles, so please change the templates to something other than 2v2. Thanks! [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:20, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

== New trivia ==

"Generation VI contains the core games with both the shortest and longest titles: X and Y have one letter each, whereas Alpha Sapphire has fourteen characters including spaces." This is only true for English names of the games, since for example SoulSilver in Italian is called Argento SoulSilver which exceeds the number of characters in Alpha Sapphire. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 10:02, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
:Yes, but this is an English wiki. So we focus on English and Japanese names. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 10:11, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
::Still, we could say "...the shortest and longest English titles." Even though we focus on English and Japanese, we do include "in other languages" on every page, so I don't think it's unreasonable to add just one word to clarify. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:26, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
:::Yes, I only intended to express the need to clarify the "restriction" (as obvious as it may be) to English names. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 17:42, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Generation VI

2014-05-10T10:02:43Z

Shepeedy: /* New trivia */ new section

List of modified moves

2014-05-05T09:56:52Z

Shepeedy: /* Generation II to Generation III */

{{incomplete|needs=Generation VI modifications}}
Some moves have '''changed their mechanics''' in the Pokémon [[core series]] games. The list is as follows.

==Accuracy changes==
===Between generations===
====[[Generation I]] to [[Generation II]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Accuracy}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation I}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation II}}
|-
| {{m|Low Kick}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 90%
| 100%
|-
| {{m|Rock Throw}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Rock color}}" | {{typecolor|Rock}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 65%
| 90%
|}
|}

====[[Generation II]] to [[Generation III]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Accuracy}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation II}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation III}}
|-
| {{m|Razor Wind}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 75%
| 100%
|}
|}

====[[Generation III]] to [[Generation IV]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Accuracy}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation III}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation IV}}
|-
| {{m|Flash}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 70%
| 100%
|-
| {{m|Disable}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 55%
| 80%
|-
| {{m|Foresight}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 100%
| —
|-
| {{m|Hypnosis}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Psychic color}}" | {{typecolor|Psychic}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 60%
| 70%{{sup/4|DP}}
|-
| {{m|Odor Sleuth}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 100%
| —
|}
|}

====[[Generation IV]] to [[Generation V]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Accuracy}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation IV}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation V}}
|-
| {{m|Bind}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 75%
| 85%
|-
| {{m|Bone Rush}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Ground color}}" | {{typecolor|Ground}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 80%
| 90%
|-
| {{m|Clamp}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Water color}}" | {{typecolor|Water}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 75%
| 85%
|-
| {{m|Cotton Spore}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 85%
| 100%
|-
| {{m|Crabhammer}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Water color}}" | {{typecolor|Water}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 85%
| 90%
|-
| {{m|Disable}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 80%
| 100%
|-
| {{m|Doom Desire}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Steel color}}" | {{typecolor|Steel}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 85%
| 100%
|-
| {{m|Fire Spin}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fire color}}" | {{typecolor|Fire}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 70%
| 85%
|-
| {{m|Future Sight}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Psychic color}}" | {{typecolor|Psychic}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 90%
| 100%
|-
| {{m|Glare}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 75%
| 90%
|-
| {{m|Magma Storm}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fire color}}" | {{typecolor|Fire}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 70%
| 75%
|-
| {{m|Poison Gas}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" | {{typecolor|Poison}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 55%
| 80%
|-
| {{m|Rock Blast}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Rock color}}" | {{typecolor|Rock}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 80%
| 90%
|-
| {{m|Sand Tomb}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Ground color}}" | {{typecolor|Ground}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 70%
| 85%
|-
| {{m|Scary Face}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 90%
| 100%
|-
| {{m|Tackle}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 95%
| 100%
|-
| {{m|Toxic}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" | {{typecolor|Poison}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 85%
| 90%
|-
| {{m|Whirlpool}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Water color}}" | {{typecolor|Water}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 70%
| 85%
|-
| {{m|Wrap}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 85%
| 90%
|}
|}

====[[Generation V]] to [[Generation VI]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Accuracy}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation V}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation VI}}
|-
| {{m|Glare}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 90%
| 100%
|-
| {{m|Gunk Shot}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" | {{typecolor|Poison}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 70%
| 80%
|-
| {{m|Meteor Mash}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Steel color}}" | {{typecolor|Steel}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 85%
| 90%
|-
| {{m|Pin Missile}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Bug color}}" | {{typecolor|Bug}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 85%
| 95%
|-
| {{m|Poison Gas}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" | {{typecolor|Poison}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 80%
| 90%
|-
| {{m|Psycho Shift}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Psychic color}}" | {{typecolor|Psychic}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 90%
| 100%
|-
| {{m|Psywave}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Psychic color}}" | {{typecolor|Psychic}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 80%
| 100%
|-
| {{m|Roar}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 100%
| —%
|-
| {{m|Rock Tomb}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Rock color}}" | {{typecolor|Rock}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 80%
| 95%
|-
| {{m|Whirlwind}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 100%
| —%
|-
| {{m|Will-O-Wisp}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fire color}}" | {{typecolor|Fire}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 75%
| 85%
|}
|}

===Within a generation===
There are certain moves that have changed in accuracy within the generation as well.

====[[Generation I]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="5" | {{color2|000000|Accuracy}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Pokémon Red and Green Versions|RG}}{{color2|000000|Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|B(JP)}}
! {{color2|000000|Pokémon Yellow Version|Y(JP)}}
! {{color2|000000|Pokémon Stadium series|Stad}}
! {{color2|000000|Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|RB}}
! {{color2|000000|Pokémon Yellow Version|Y(Int)}}
|-
| {{m|Blizzard}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Ice color}}" | {{typecolor|Ice}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 90%
| {{tt|Varies|70% in Colosseum 2; 90% everywhere else}}
| 70%
| 90%
| 90%
|}
|}

====[[Generation IV]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Accuracy}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|DP}}
! {{color2|000000|Pokémon Platinum Version|Pt}}
|-
| {{m|Hypnosis}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Psychic color}}" | {{typecolor|Psychic}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 70%
| 60%
|}
|}

==Power changes==
===Between generations===
====[[Generation I]] to [[Generation II]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Power}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation I}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation II}}
|-
| {{m|Dig}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Ground color}}" | {{typecolor|Ground}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 100
| 60
|-
| {{m|Double-Edge}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 100
| 120
|-
| {{m|Explosion}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 170
| 250
|-
| {{m|Selfdestruct}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 130
| 200
|-
| {{m|Wing Attack}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Flying color}}" | {{typecolor|Flying}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 35
| 60
|-
|}
|}

====[[Generation II]] to [[Generation III]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Power}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation II}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation III}}
|-
| {{m|Low Kick}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 50
| Varies
|-
|}
|}

====[[Generation III]] to [[Generation IV]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Power}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation III}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation IV}}
|-
| {{m|Dig}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Ground color}}" | {{typecolor|Ground}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 60
| 80
|-
| {{m|Dive}}{{tt|*|Special in Generation III}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Water color}}" | {{typecolor|Water}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 60
| 80
|-
| {{m|Fly}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Flying color}}" | {{typecolor|Flying}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 70
| 90
|-
| {{m|Hi Jump Kick}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 85
| 100
|-
| {{m|Jump Kick}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 70
| 85
|-
| {{m|Leaf Blade}}{{tt|*|Special in Generation III}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 70
| 90
|-
| {{m|Outrage}}{{tt|*|Special in Generation III}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Dragon color}}" | {{typecolor|Dragon}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 90
| 120
|-
| {{m|Petal Dance}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 70
| 90
|-
| {{m|Rock Smash}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 20
| 40
|-
| {{m|Zap Cannon}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Electric color}}" | {{typecolor|Electric}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 100
| 120
|}
|}

====[[Generation IV]] to [[Generation V]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Power}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation IV}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation V}}
|-
| {{m|Beat Up}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Dark color}}" | {{typecolor|Dark}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 10
| Variable
|-
| {{m|Bullet Seed}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 10
| 25
|-
| {{m|Covet}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 40
| 60
|-
| {{m|Doom Desire}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Steel color}}" | {{typecolor|Steel}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 120
| 140
|-
| {{m|Drain Punch}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 60
| 75
|-
| {{m|Feint}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 50
| 30
|-
| {{m|Fire Spin}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fire color}}" | {{typecolor|Fire}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 15
| 35
|-
| {{m|Fury Cutter}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Bug color}}" | {{typecolor|Bug}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 10
| 20
|-
| {{m|Future Sight}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Psychic color}}" | {{typecolor|Psychic}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 80
| 100
|-
| {{m|Giga Drain}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 60
| 75
|-
| {{m|Hi Jump Kick}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 100
| 130
|-
| {{m|Icicle Spear}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Ice color}}" | {{typecolor|Ice}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 10
| 25
|-
| {{m|Jump Kick}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 85
| 100
|-
| {{m|Last Resort}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 130
| 140
|-
| {{m|Petal Dance}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 90
| 120
|-
| {{m|Sand Tomb}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Ground color}}" | {{typecolor|Ground}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 15
| 35
|-
| {{m|Tackle}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 35
| 50
|-
| {{m|Thrash}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 90
| 120
|-
| {{m|Uproar}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 50
| 90
|-
| {{m|Whirlpool}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Water color}}" | {{typecolor|Water}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 15
| 35
|}
|}

====[[Generation V]] to [[Generation VI]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Power}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation V}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation VI}}
|-
| {{m|Air Cutter}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Flying color}}" | {{typecolor|Flying}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 55
| 60
|-
| {{m|Assurance}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Dark color}}" | {{typecolor|Dark}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 50
| 60
|-
| {{m|Aura Sphere}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 90
| 80
|-
| {{m|Blizzard}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Ice color}}" | {{typecolor|Ice}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 120
| 110
|-
| {{m|Bubble}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Water color}}" | {{typecolor|Water}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 20
| 40
|-
| {{m|Chatter}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Flying color}}" | {{typecolor|Flying}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 60
| 65
|-
| {{m|Crabhammer}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Water color}}" | {{typecolor|Water}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 90
| 100
|-
| {{m|Draco Meteor}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Dragon color}}" | {{typecolor|Dragon}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 140
| 130
|-
| {{m|Dragon Pulse}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Dragon color}}" | {{typecolor|Dragon}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 90
| 85
|-
| {{m|Energy Ball}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 80
| 90
|-
| {{m|Fire Blast}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fire color}}" | {{typecolor|Fire}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 120
| 110
|-
| {{m|Fire Pledge}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fire color}}" | {{typecolor|Fire}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 50
| 80
|-
| {{m|Flamethrower}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fire color}}" | {{typecolor|Fire}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 95
| 90
|-
| {{m|Frost Breath}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Ice color}}" | {{typecolor|Ice}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 40
| 60
|-
| {{m|Fury Cutter}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Bug color}}" | {{typecolor|Bug}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 20
| 40
|-
| {{m|Future Sight}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Psychic color}}" | {{typecolor|Psychic}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 100
| 120
|-
| {{m|Grass Pledge}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 50
| 80
|-
| {{m|Heat Wave}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fire color}}" | {{typecolor|Fire}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 100
| 95
|-
| {{m|Hex}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Ghost color}}" | {{typecolor|Ghost}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 50
| 65
|-
| {{m|Hidden Power}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| Varies
| 60
|-
| {{m|Hurricane}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Flying color}}" | {{typecolor|Flying}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 120
| 110
|-
| {{m|Hydro Pump}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Water color}}" | {{typecolor|Water}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 120
| 110
|-
| {{m|Ice Beam}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Ice color}}" | {{typecolor|Ice}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 95
| 90
|-
| {{m|Incinerate}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fire color}}" | {{typecolor|Fire}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 30
| 60
|-
| {{m|Knock Off}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Dark color}}" | {{typecolor|Dark}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 20
| 65
|-
| {{m|Leaf Storm}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 140
| 130
|-
| {{m|Lick}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Ghost color}}" | {{typecolor|Ghost}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 20
| 30
|-
| {{m|Low Sweep}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 60
| 65
|-
| {{m|Magma Storm}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fire color}}" | {{typecolor|Fire}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 120
| 100
|-
| {{m|Meteor Mash}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Steel color}}" | {{typecolor|Steel}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 100
| 90
|-
| {{m|Muddy Water}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Water color}}" | {{typecolor|Water}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 95
| 90
|-
| {{m|Overheat}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fire color}}" | {{typecolor|Fire}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 140
| 130
|-
| {{m|Pin Missile}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Bug color}}" | {{typecolor|Bug}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 14
| 25
|-
| {{m|Power Gem}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Rock color}}" | {{typecolor|Rock}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 70
| 80
|-
| {{m|Rock Tomb}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Rock color}}" | {{typecolor|Rock}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 50
| 60
|-
| {{m|Skull Bash}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 100
| 130
|-
| {{m|Smelling Salts}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 60
| 70
|-
| {{m|Smog}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" | {{typecolor|Poison}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 20
| 30
|-
| {{m|Snore}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 40
| 50
|-
| {{m|Storm Throw}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 40
| 60
|-
| {{m|Struggle Bug}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Bug color}}" | {{typecolor|Bug}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 30
| 50
|-
| {{m|Surf}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Water color}}" | {{typecolor|Water}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 95
| 90
|-
| {{m|Synchronoise}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Psychic color}}" | {{typecolor|Psychic}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 70
| 120
|-
| {{m|Techno Blast}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 85
| 120
|-
| {{m|Thief}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Dark color}}" | {{typecolor|Dark}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 40
| 60
|-
| {{m|Thunder}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Electric color}}" | {{typecolor|Electric}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 120
| 110
|-
| {{m|Thunderbolt}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Electric color}}" | {{typecolor|Electric}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 95
| 90
|-
| {{m|Vine Whip}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 35
| 45
|-
| {{m|Wake-Up Slap}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 60
| 70
|-
| {{m|Water Pledge}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Water color}}" | {{typecolor|Water}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 50
| 80
|}
|}

===Within a generation===
There are certain moves that have changed in attack power within the generation as well.

====[[Generation III]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Power}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Pokémon Colosseum|Colo}}
! {{color2|000000|Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|XD}}
|-
| {{m|Shadow Rush}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Shadow color}}" | {{typecolor|Shadow}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 90
| 55
|}
|}

==PP changes==
{{incomplete|section|possibly missing some moves}}
===Between generations===
====[[Generation III]] to [[Generation IV]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|PP|Power points}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation III}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation IV}}
|-
| {{m|Absorb}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 20
| 25
|-
| {{m|Giga Drain}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 5
| 10
|-
| {{m|Mega Drain}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 10
| 15
|-
| {{m|Recover}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 20
| 10
|-
| {{m|Stockpile}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 10
| 20
|-
| {{m|Vine Whip}}{{tt|*|Special prior to Generation IV}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 10
| 15
|}
|}

====[[Generation IV]] to [[Generation V]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|PP|Power points}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation IV}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation V}}
|-
| {{m|Drain Punch}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 5
| 10
|-
| {{m|Future Sight}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Psychic color}}" | {{typecolor|Psychic}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 15
| 10
|-
| {{m|High Jump Kick|Hi Jump Kick}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 20
| 10
|-
| {{m|Outrage}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Dragon color}}" | {{typecolor|Dragon}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 15
| 10
|-
| {{m|Petal Dance}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 20
| 10
|-
| {{m|Thrash}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 20
| 10
|}
|}

====[[Generation V]] to [[Generation VI]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|PP|Power Points}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation V}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation VI}}
|-
| {{m|Acid Armor}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" | {{typecolor|Poison}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 40
| 20
|-
| {{m|Air Slash}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Flying color}}" | {{typecolor|Flying}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 20
| 15
|-
| {{m|Barrier}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Psychic color}}" | {{typecolor|Psychic}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 30
| 20
|-
| {{m|Covet}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 40
| 25
|-
| {{m|Extrasensory}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Psychic color}}" | {{typecolor|Psychic}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 30
| 20
|-
| {{m|Growth}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 40
| 20
|-
| {{m|Minimize}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 20
| 10
|-
| {{m|Rock Tomb}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Rock color}}" | {{typecolor|Rock}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 10
| 15
|-
| {{m|Sacred Sword}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 20
| 15
|-
| {{m|Skull Bash}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 15
| 10
|-
| {{m|Swords Dance}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 30
| 20
|-
| {{m|Tailwind}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Flying color}}" | {{typecolor|Flying}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 30
| 15
|-
| {{m|Thief}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Dark color}}" | {{typecolor|Dark}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 10
| 25
|-
| {{m|Vine Whip}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 15
| 25
|}
|}

==Type changes==
===Between generations===
====[[Generation I]] to [[Generation II]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation I}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation II}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Bite}}
| style="background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="background:#{{Dark color}}" | {{typecolor|Dark}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Gust}}
| style="background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="background:#{{Flying color}}" | {{typecolor|Flying}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Karate Chop}}
| style="background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Sand-Attack}}
| style="background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="background:#{{Ground color}}" | {{typecolor|Ground}}
|}
|}



====[[Generation IV]] to [[Generation V]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation IV}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation V}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Curse}}
| style="background:#{{Unknown color}}" | {{typecolor|???}}
| style="background:#{{Ghost color}}" | {{typecolor|Ghost}}
|}
|}

====[[Generation V]] to [[Generation VI]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation V}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation VI}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Charm}}
| style="background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="background:#{{Fairy color}}" | {{typecolor|Fairy}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Moonlight}}
| style="background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="background:#{{Fairy color}}" | {{typecolor|Fairy}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Sweet Kiss}}
| style="background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="background:#{{Fairy color}}" | {{typecolor|Fairy}}
|}
|}

==Damage category changes==
===Between generations===
====[[Generation I]] to [[Generation II]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation I}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation II}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Bite}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|}
|}



====[[Generation III]] to [[Generation IV]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation III}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation IV}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Acid}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Aeroblast}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Air Cutter}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|AncientPower}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Beat Up}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Bite}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Blaze Kick}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Bullet Seed}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Clamp}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Crabhammer}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Crunch}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Dive}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Doom Desire}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Dragon Claw}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Faint Attack}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Fire Punch}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Flame Wheel}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Gust}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Hidden Power}}
| style="background:#{{unknown color}}" | {{color2|{{unknown textcolor}}|:Category:Moves that change type|Varies}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Hyper Beam}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Hyper Voice}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Ice Ball}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Ice Punch}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Icicle Spear}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Knock Off}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Leaf Blade}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Mud Shot}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Mud Sport}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Mud-Slap}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Needle Arm}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Night Shade}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Outrage}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Pursuit}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Razor Leaf}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Razor Wind}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Sacred Fire}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Shadow Ball}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Signal Beam}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Silver Wind}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Sludge}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Sludge Bomb}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Smog}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Snore}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|SonicBoom}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Spark}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Spit Up}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Swift}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Thief}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|ThunderPunch}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Tri Attack}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Uproar}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Vine Whip}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Volt Tackle}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Waterfall}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Weather Ball}}
| style="background:#{{unknown color}}" | {{color2|{{unknown textcolor}}|:Category:Moves that change type|Varies}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|}
|}



==Targeting changes==
===Between generations===


====[[Generation III]] to [[Generation IV]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! colspan="2" | Target
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation III}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation IV}}
|-
| {{m|Surf}}
| width="150px" style="background:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #D8D8D8;" |
{| width="100%" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; border-collapse:collapse;"
| style="background: #ED1C24; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
| style="background: #ED1C24; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
|-
| style="background: #709AD1; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
| style="background: #709AD1; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
|-
| colspan="3" style="line-height:10px;" | All foes
|}
| width="150px" style="background:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #D8D8D8;" |
{| width="100%" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; border-collapse:collapse;"
| style="background: #ED1C24; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
| style="background: #ED1C24; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
|-
| style="background: #709AD1; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
| style="background: #ED1C24; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
|-
| colspan="3" style="line-height:10px;" | All but user
|}
|}
|}

====[[Generation IV]] to [[Generation V]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! colspan="2" | Target
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation IV}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation V}}
|-
| {{m|Poison Gas}}
| width="150px" style="background:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #D8D8D8;" |
{| width="100%" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; border-collapse:collapse;"
| style="background: #FF4500; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
| style="background: #FF4500; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
|-
| style="background: #709AD1; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
| style="background: #FF4500; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
|-
| colspan="3" style="line-height:10px;" | Any other Pokémon
|}
| width="150px" style="background:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #D8D8D8;" |
{| width="100%" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; border-collapse:collapse;"
| style="background: #ED1C24; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
| style="background: #ED1C24; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
|-
| style="background: #709AD1; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
| style="background: #709AD1; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
|-
| colspan="3" style="line-height:10px;" | All adjacent foes
|}
|}
|}
==Contact changes==
===Between generations===
====[[Generation III]] to [[Generation IV]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Contact}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation III}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation IV}}
|-
| {{m|AncientPower}} 
| Makes contact
| Does not make contact
|}
|}
==Priority changes==
===Between generations===
====[[Generation I]] to [[Generation II]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Priority}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation I}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation II}}
|-
| {{m|Roar}}
| <tt>0</tt>
| <tt>-1</tt>
|-
| {{m|Whirlwind}}
| <tt>0</tt>
| <tt>-1</tt>
|}
|}
====[[Generation II]] to [[Generation III]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Priority}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation II}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation III}}
|-
| {{m|Roar}}
| <tt>-1</tt>
| <tt>-5</tt>
|-
| {{m|Whirlwind}}
| <tt>-1</tt>
| <tt>-5</tt>
|}
|}

====[[Generation III]] to [[Generation IV]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Priority}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation III}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation IV}}
|-
| {{m|Bide}}
| <tt>0</tt>
| <tt>+1</tt>
|-
| {{m|Roar}}
| <tt>-5</tt>
| <tt>-6</tt>
|-
| {{m|Whirlwind}}
| <tt>-5</tt>
| <tt>-6</tt>
|}
|}

====[[Generation IV]] to [[Generation V]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Priority}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation IV}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation V}}
|-
| {{m|ExtremeSpeed}}
| <tt>+1</tt>
| <tt>+2</tt>
|-
| {{m|Fake Out}}
| <tt>+1</tt>
| <tt>+3</tt>
|-
| {{m|Protect}}
| <tt>+3</tt>
| <tt>+4</tt>
|-
| {{m|Detect}}
| <tt>+3</tt>
| <tt>+4</tt>
|}
|}

====[[Generation V]] to [[Generation VI]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Priority}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation V}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation VI}}
|-
| {{m|Follow Me}}
| <tt>+3</tt>
| <tt>+2</tt>
|-
| {{m|Magic Room}}
| <tt>-7</tt>
| <tt>0</tt>
|-
| {{m|Rage Powder}}
| <tt>+3</tt>
| <tt>+2</tt>
|-
| {{m|Wonder Room}}
| <tt>-7</tt>
| <tt>0</tt>
|}
|}

==Name changes==
===English===
====Between generations====
=====[[Generation II]] to [[Generation III]]=====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="background: #FFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf"
! colspan="2" | {{color|000|Name}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
! {{color2|000|Generation II}}
! {{color2|000|Generation III}}
|-
|Conversion2
|{{m|Conversion 2}}
|}
|}

=====[[Generation V]] to [[Generation VI]]=====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="background: #FFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf"
! colspan="2" | {{color|000|Name}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
! {{color2|000|Generation V}}
! {{color2|000|Generation VI}}
|-
|AncientPower
|{{m|Ancient Power}}
|-
|BubbleBeam
|{{m|Bubble Beam}}
|-
|DoubleSlap
|{{m|Double Slap}}
|-
|DragonBreath
|{{m|Dragon Breath}}
|-
|DynamicPunch
|{{m|Dynamic Punch}}
|-
|ExtremeSpeed
|{{m|Extreme Speed}}
|-
|Faint Attack
|{{m|Feint Attack}}
|-
|FeatherDance
|{{m|Feather Dance}}
|-
|GrassWhistle
|{{m|Grass Whistle}}
|-
|Hi Jump Kick
|{{m|High Jump Kick}}
|-
|PoisonPowder
|{{m|Poison Powder}}
|-
|Sand-Attack
|{{m|Sand Attack}}
|-
|Selfdestruct
|{{m|Self-Destruct}}
|-
|SmellingSalt
|{{m|Smelling Salts}}
|-
|SmokeScreen
|{{m|Smokescreen}}
|-
|Softboiled
|{{m|Soft-Boiled}}
|-
|SolarBeam
|{{m|Solar Beam}}
|-
|SonicBoom
|{{m|Sonic Boom}}
|-
|ThunderPunch
|{{m|Thunder Punch}}
|-
|ThunderShock
|{{m|Thunder Shock}}
|-
|ViceGrip
|{{m|Vice Grip}}
|}
|}

===French===
====Between generations====
=====[[Generation V]] to [[Generation VI]]=====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="background: #FFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf"
! rowspan="2" | {{color|000|English name}}
! colspan="2" | {{color|000|French name}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
! {{color2|000|Generation V}}
! {{color2|000|Generation VI}}
|-
|{{m|Ancient Power}}
|Pouv.Antique
|Pouvoir Antique
|-
|{{m|Destiny Bond}}
|Prlvt Destin
|Prélèvement Destin
|-
|{{m|Extreme Speed}}
|Vit.Extrême
|Vitesse Extrême
|-
|{{m|Flamethrower}}
|Lance-Flamme
|Lance-Flammes
|-
|{{m|Glare}}
|Intimidation{{tt|*|Same name as the Ability Intimidate in French}}
|Regard Médusant
|-
|{{m|Guard Split}}
|PartageGarde
|Partage Garde
|-
|{{m|Hidden Power}}
|Puiss. Cachée
|Puissance Cachée
|-
|{{m|Night Shade}}
|Ténèbres{{tt|*|Same name as the type Dark in French}}
|Ombre Nocturne
|-
|{{m|Power Split}}
|PartageForce
|Partage Force
|-
|{{m|Rage Powder}}
|PoudreFureur
|Poudre Fureur
|-
|{{m|Shift Gear}}
|Chgt Vitesse
|Changement Vitesse
|-
|{{m|Stored Power}}
|ForceAjoutée
|Force Ajoutée
|}
|}

===German===
====Between generations====
=====[[Generation I]] to [[Generation II]]=====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="background: #FFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf"
! rowspan="2" | {{color|000|English name}}
! colspan="2" | {{color|000|German name}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
! {{color2|000|Generation I}}
! {{color2|000|Generation II}}
|-
|{{m|Transform}}
|Wandler
|Verwandler
|}
|}

=====[[Generation II]] to [[Generation III]]=====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="background: #FFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf"
! rowspan="2" | {{color|000|English name}}
! colspan="2" | {{color|000|German name}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
! {{color2|000000|Generation II}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation III}}
|-
|{{m|Transform}}
|Verwandler
|Wandler
|}
|}

===Italian===
====Between generations====
=====[[Generation II]] to [[Generation III]]=====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="background: #FFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf"
! rowspan="2" | {{color|000|English name}}
! colspan="2" | {{color|000|Italian name}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
! {{color2|000|Generation II}}
! {{color2|000|Generation III}}
|-
|{{m|Body Slam}}
|Body Slam
|Corposcontro
|-
|{{m|Focus Energy}}
|Energy Conc.
|Focalenergia
|-
|{{m|Pound}}
|Libbra
|Botta
|}
|}

=====[[Generation V]] to [[Generation VI]]=====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="background: #FFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf"
! rowspan="2" | {{color|000|English name}}
! colspan="2" | {{color|000|Italian name}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
! {{color2|000|Generation V}}
! {{color2|000|Generation VI}}
|-
|{{m|Counter}}
|Contatore
|Contrattacco
|-
|{{m|Glare}}
|Bagliore
|Sguardo Feroce
|}
|}

===Spanish===
====Between generations====
=====[[Generation II]] to [[Generation III]]=====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="background: #FFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf"
! rowspan="2" | {{color|000|English name}}
! colspan="2" | {{color|000|Spanish name}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
! {{color2|000|Generation II}}
! {{color2|000|Generation III}}
|-
|{{m|Swords Dance}}
|Danza-Espada
|Danza Espada
|}
|}

=====[[Generation V]] to [[Generation VI]]=====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="background: #FFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf"
! rowspan="2" | {{color|000|English name}}
! colspan="2" | {{color|000|Spanish name}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
! {{color2|000|Generation V}}
! {{color2|000|Generation VI}}
|-
|{{m|Constrict}}
|Restricción
|Constricción
|-
|{{m|Counter}}
|Contador
|Contraataque
|-
|{{m|Horn Leech}}
|Astadrenaje
|Asta Drenaje
|-
|{{m|Return}}
|Retroceso
|Retribución
|-
|{{m|Sacred Sword}}
|Espadasanta
|Espada Santa
|-
|{{m|Slam}}
|Portazo
|Atizar
|}
|}
{{-}}

{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}

[[Category:Moves|*]]
[[Category:Lists]]

[[it:Elenco delle mosse modificate]]

List of modified moves

2014-05-05T09:51:52Z

Shepeedy: /* Italian */

{{incomplete|needs=Generation VI modifications}}
Some moves have '''changed their mechanics''' in the Pokémon [[core series]] games. The list is as follows.

==Accuracy changes==
===Between generations===
====[[Generation I]] to [[Generation II]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Accuracy}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation I}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation II}}
|-
| {{m|Low Kick}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 90%
| 100%
|-
| {{m|Rock Throw}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Rock color}}" | {{typecolor|Rock}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 65%
| 90%
|}
|}

====[[Generation II]] to [[Generation III]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Accuracy}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation II}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation III}}
|-
| {{m|Razor Wind}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 75%
| 100%
|}
|}

====[[Generation III]] to [[Generation IV]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Accuracy}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation III}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation IV}}
|-
| {{m|Flash}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 70%
| 100%
|-
| {{m|Disable}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 55%
| 80%
|-
| {{m|Foresight}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 100%
| —
|-
| {{m|Hypnosis}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Psychic color}}" | {{typecolor|Psychic}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 60%
| 70%{{sup/4|DP}}
|-
| {{m|Odor Sleuth}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 100%
| —
|}
|}

====[[Generation IV]] to [[Generation V]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Accuracy}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation IV}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation V}}
|-
| {{m|Bind}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 75%
| 85%
|-
| {{m|Bone Rush}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Ground color}}" | {{typecolor|Ground}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 80%
| 90%
|-
| {{m|Clamp}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Water color}}" | {{typecolor|Water}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 75%
| 85%
|-
| {{m|Cotton Spore}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 85%
| 100%
|-
| {{m|Crabhammer}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Water color}}" | {{typecolor|Water}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 85%
| 90%
|-
| {{m|Disable}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 80%
| 100%
|-
| {{m|Doom Desire}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Steel color}}" | {{typecolor|Steel}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 85%
| 100%
|-
| {{m|Fire Spin}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fire color}}" | {{typecolor|Fire}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 70%
| 85%
|-
| {{m|Future Sight}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Psychic color}}" | {{typecolor|Psychic}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 90%
| 100%
|-
| {{m|Glare}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 75%
| 90%
|-
| {{m|Magma Storm}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fire color}}" | {{typecolor|Fire}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 70%
| 75%
|-
| {{m|Poison Gas}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" | {{typecolor|Poison}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 55%
| 80%
|-
| {{m|Rock Blast}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Rock color}}" | {{typecolor|Rock}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 80%
| 90%
|-
| {{m|Sand Tomb}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Ground color}}" | {{typecolor|Ground}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 70%
| 85%
|-
| {{m|Scary Face}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 90%
| 100%
|-
| {{m|Tackle}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 95%
| 100%
|-
| {{m|Toxic}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" | {{typecolor|Poison}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 85%
| 90%
|-
| {{m|Whirlpool}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Water color}}" | {{typecolor|Water}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 70%
| 85%
|-
| {{m|Wrap}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 85%
| 90%
|}
|}

====[[Generation V]] to [[Generation VI]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Accuracy}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation V}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation VI}}
|-
| {{m|Glare}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 90%
| 100%
|-
| {{m|Gunk Shot}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" | {{typecolor|Poison}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 70%
| 80%
|-
| {{m|Meteor Mash}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Steel color}}" | {{typecolor|Steel}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 85%
| 90%
|-
| {{m|Pin Missile}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Bug color}}" | {{typecolor|Bug}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 85%
| 95%
|-
| {{m|Poison Gas}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" | {{typecolor|Poison}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 80%
| 90%
|-
| {{m|Psycho Shift}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Psychic color}}" | {{typecolor|Psychic}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 90%
| 100%
|-
| {{m|Psywave}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Psychic color}}" | {{typecolor|Psychic}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 80%
| 100%
|-
| {{m|Roar}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 100%
| —%
|-
| {{m|Rock Tomb}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Rock color}}" | {{typecolor|Rock}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 80%
| 95%
|-
| {{m|Whirlwind}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 100%
| —%
|-
| {{m|Will-O-Wisp}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fire color}}" | {{typecolor|Fire}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 75%
| 85%
|}
|}

===Within a generation===
There are certain moves that have changed in accuracy within the generation as well.

====[[Generation I]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="5" | {{color2|000000|Accuracy}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Pokémon Red and Green Versions|RG}}{{color2|000000|Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|B(JP)}}
! {{color2|000000|Pokémon Yellow Version|Y(JP)}}
! {{color2|000000|Pokémon Stadium series|Stad}}
! {{color2|000000|Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|RB}}
! {{color2|000000|Pokémon Yellow Version|Y(Int)}}
|-
| {{m|Blizzard}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Ice color}}" | {{typecolor|Ice}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 90%
| {{tt|Varies|70% in Colosseum 2; 90% everywhere else}}
| 70%
| 90%
| 90%
|}
|}

====[[Generation IV]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Accuracy}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|DP}}
! {{color2|000000|Pokémon Platinum Version|Pt}}
|-
| {{m|Hypnosis}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Psychic color}}" | {{typecolor|Psychic}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 70%
| 60%
|}
|}

==Power changes==
===Between generations===
====[[Generation I]] to [[Generation II]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Power}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation I}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation II}}
|-
| {{m|Dig}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Ground color}}" | {{typecolor|Ground}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 100
| 60
|-
| {{m|Double-Edge}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 100
| 120
|-
| {{m|Explosion}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 170
| 250
|-
| {{m|Selfdestruct}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 130
| 200
|-
| {{m|Wing Attack}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Flying color}}" | {{typecolor|Flying}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 35
| 60
|-
|}
|}

====[[Generation II]] to [[Generation III]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Power}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation II}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation III}}
|-
| {{m|Low Kick}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 50
| Varies
|-
|}
|}

====[[Generation III]] to [[Generation IV]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Power}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation III}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation IV}}
|-
| {{m|Dig}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Ground color}}" | {{typecolor|Ground}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 60
| 80
|-
| {{m|Dive}}{{tt|*|Special in Generation III}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Water color}}" | {{typecolor|Water}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 60
| 80
|-
| {{m|Fly}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Flying color}}" | {{typecolor|Flying}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 70
| 90
|-
| {{m|Hi Jump Kick}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 85
| 100
|-
| {{m|Jump Kick}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 70
| 85
|-
| {{m|Leaf Blade}}{{tt|*|Special in Generation III}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 70
| 90
|-
| {{m|Outrage}}{{tt|*|Special in Generation III}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Dragon color}}" | {{typecolor|Dragon}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 90
| 120
|-
| {{m|Petal Dance}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 70
| 90
|-
| {{m|Rock Smash}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 20
| 40
|-
| {{m|Zap Cannon}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Electric color}}" | {{typecolor|Electric}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 100
| 120
|}
|}

====[[Generation IV]] to [[Generation V]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Power}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation IV}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation V}}
|-
| {{m|Beat Up}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Dark color}}" | {{typecolor|Dark}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 10
| Variable
|-
| {{m|Bullet Seed}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 10
| 25
|-
| {{m|Covet}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 40
| 60
|-
| {{m|Doom Desire}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Steel color}}" | {{typecolor|Steel}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 120
| 140
|-
| {{m|Drain Punch}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 60
| 75
|-
| {{m|Feint}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 50
| 30
|-
| {{m|Fire Spin}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fire color}}" | {{typecolor|Fire}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 15
| 35
|-
| {{m|Fury Cutter}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Bug color}}" | {{typecolor|Bug}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 10
| 20
|-
| {{m|Future Sight}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Psychic color}}" | {{typecolor|Psychic}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 80
| 100
|-
| {{m|Giga Drain}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 60
| 75
|-
| {{m|Hi Jump Kick}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 100
| 130
|-
| {{m|Icicle Spear}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Ice color}}" | {{typecolor|Ice}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 10
| 25
|-
| {{m|Jump Kick}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 85
| 100
|-
| {{m|Last Resort}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 130
| 140
|-
| {{m|Petal Dance}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 90
| 120
|-
| {{m|Sand Tomb}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Ground color}}" | {{typecolor|Ground}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 15
| 35
|-
| {{m|Tackle}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 35
| 50
|-
| {{m|Thrash}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 90
| 120
|-
| {{m|Uproar}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 50
| 90
|-
| {{m|Whirlpool}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Water color}}" | {{typecolor|Water}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 15
| 35
|}
|}

====[[Generation V]] to [[Generation VI]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Power}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation V}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation VI}}
|-
| {{m|Air Cutter}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Flying color}}" | {{typecolor|Flying}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 55
| 60
|-
| {{m|Assurance}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Dark color}}" | {{typecolor|Dark}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 50
| 60
|-
| {{m|Aura Sphere}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 90
| 80
|-
| {{m|Blizzard}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Ice color}}" | {{typecolor|Ice}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 120
| 110
|-
| {{m|Bubble}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Water color}}" | {{typecolor|Water}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 20
| 40
|-
| {{m|Chatter}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Flying color}}" | {{typecolor|Flying}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 60
| 65
|-
| {{m|Crabhammer}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Water color}}" | {{typecolor|Water}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 90
| 100
|-
| {{m|Draco Meteor}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Dragon color}}" | {{typecolor|Dragon}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 140
| 130
|-
| {{m|Dragon Pulse}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Dragon color}}" | {{typecolor|Dragon}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 90
| 85
|-
| {{m|Energy Ball}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 80
| 90
|-
| {{m|Fire Blast}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fire color}}" | {{typecolor|Fire}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 120
| 110
|-
| {{m|Fire Pledge}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fire color}}" | {{typecolor|Fire}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 50
| 80
|-
| {{m|Flamethrower}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fire color}}" | {{typecolor|Fire}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 95
| 90
|-
| {{m|Frost Breath}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Ice color}}" | {{typecolor|Ice}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 40
| 60
|-
| {{m|Fury Cutter}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Bug color}}" | {{typecolor|Bug}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 20
| 40
|-
| {{m|Future Sight}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Psychic color}}" | {{typecolor|Psychic}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 100
| 120
|-
| {{m|Grass Pledge}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 50
| 80
|-
| {{m|Heat Wave}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fire color}}" | {{typecolor|Fire}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 100
| 95
|-
| {{m|Hex}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Ghost color}}" | {{typecolor|Ghost}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 50
| 65
|-
| {{m|Hidden Power}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| Varies
| 60
|-
| {{m|Hurricane}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Flying color}}" | {{typecolor|Flying}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 120
| 110
|-
| {{m|Hydro Pump}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Water color}}" | {{typecolor|Water}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 120
| 110
|-
| {{m|Ice Beam}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Ice color}}" | {{typecolor|Ice}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 95
| 90
|-
| {{m|Incinerate}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fire color}}" | {{typecolor|Fire}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 30
| 60
|-
| {{m|Knock Off}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Dark color}}" | {{typecolor|Dark}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 20
| 65
|-
| {{m|Leaf Storm}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 140
| 130
|-
| {{m|Lick}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Ghost color}}" | {{typecolor|Ghost}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 20
| 30
|-
| {{m|Low Sweep}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 60
| 65
|-
| {{m|Magma Storm}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fire color}}" | {{typecolor|Fire}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 120
| 100
|-
| {{m|Meteor Mash}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Steel color}}" | {{typecolor|Steel}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 100
| 90
|-
| {{m|Muddy Water}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Water color}}" | {{typecolor|Water}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 95
| 90
|-
| {{m|Overheat}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fire color}}" | {{typecolor|Fire}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 140
| 130
|-
| {{m|Pin Missile}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Bug color}}" | {{typecolor|Bug}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 14
| 25
|-
| {{m|Power Gem}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Rock color}}" | {{typecolor|Rock}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 70
| 80
|-
| {{m|Rock Tomb}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Rock color}}" | {{typecolor|Rock}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 50
| 60
|-
| {{m|Skull Bash}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 100
| 130
|-
| {{m|Smelling Salts}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 60
| 70
|-
| {{m|Smog}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" | {{typecolor|Poison}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 20
| 30
|-
| {{m|Snore}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 40
| 50
|-
| {{m|Storm Throw}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 40
| 60
|-
| {{m|Struggle Bug}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Bug color}}" | {{typecolor|Bug}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 30
| 50
|-
| {{m|Surf}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Water color}}" | {{typecolor|Water}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 95
| 90
|-
| {{m|Synchronoise}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Psychic color}}" | {{typecolor|Psychic}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 70
| 120
|-
| {{m|Techno Blast}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 85
| 120
|-
| {{m|Thief}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Dark color}}" | {{typecolor|Dark}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 40
| 60
|-
| {{m|Thunder}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Electric color}}" | {{typecolor|Electric}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 120
| 110
|-
| {{m|Thunderbolt}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Electric color}}" | {{typecolor|Electric}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 95
| 90
|-
| {{m|Vine Whip}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 35
| 45
|-
| {{m|Wake-Up Slap}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 60
| 70
|-
| {{m|Water Pledge}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Water color}}" | {{typecolor|Water}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 50
| 80
|}
|}

===Within a generation===
There are certain moves that have changed in attack power within the generation as well.

====[[Generation III]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Power}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Pokémon Colosseum|Colo}}
! {{color2|000000|Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|XD}}
|-
| {{m|Shadow Rush}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Shadow color}}" | {{typecolor|Shadow}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 90
| 55
|}
|}

==PP changes==
{{incomplete|section|possibly missing some moves}}
===Between generations===
====[[Generation III]] to [[Generation IV]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|PP|Power points}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation III}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation IV}}
|-
| {{m|Absorb}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 20
| 25
|-
| {{m|Giga Drain}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 5
| 10
|-
| {{m|Mega Drain}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 10
| 15
|-
| {{m|Recover}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 20
| 10
|-
| {{m|Stockpile}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 10
| 20
|-
| {{m|Vine Whip}}{{tt|*|Special prior to Generation IV}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 10
| 15
|}
|}

====[[Generation IV]] to [[Generation V]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|PP|Power points}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation IV}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation V}}
|-
| {{m|Drain Punch}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 5
| 10
|-
| {{m|Future Sight}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Psychic color}}" | {{typecolor|Psychic}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 15
| 10
|-
| {{m|High Jump Kick|Hi Jump Kick}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 20
| 10
|-
| {{m|Outrage}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Dragon color}}" | {{typecolor|Dragon}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 15
| 10
|-
| {{m|Petal Dance}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 20
| 10
|-
| {{m|Thrash}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 20
| 10
|}
|}

====[[Generation V]] to [[Generation VI]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|PP|Power Points}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation V}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation VI}}
|-
| {{m|Acid Armor}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" | {{typecolor|Poison}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 40
| 20
|-
| {{m|Air Slash}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Flying color}}" | {{typecolor|Flying}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 20
| 15
|-
| {{m|Barrier}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Psychic color}}" | {{typecolor|Psychic}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 30
| 20
|-
| {{m|Covet}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 40
| 25
|-
| {{m|Extrasensory}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Psychic color}}" | {{typecolor|Psychic}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Special color}}" | [[Special move|{{color|{{Special textcolor}}|Special}}]]
| 30
| 20
|-
| {{m|Growth}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 40
| 20
|-
| {{m|Minimize}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 20
| 10
|-
| {{m|Rock Tomb}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Rock color}}" | {{typecolor|Rock}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 10
| 15
|-
| {{m|Sacred Sword}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 20
| 15
|-
| {{m|Skull Bash}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 15
| 10
|-
| {{m|Swords Dance}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 30
| 20
|-
| {{m|Tailwind}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Flying color}}" | {{typecolor|Flying}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Status color}}" | [[Status move|{{color|{{Status textcolor}}|Status}}]]
| 30
| 15
|-
| {{m|Thief}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Dark color}}" | {{typecolor|Dark}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 10
| 25
|-
| {{m|Vine Whip}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Physical color}}" | [[Physical move|{{color|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical}}]]
| 15
| 25
|}
|}

==Type changes==
===Between generations===
====[[Generation I]] to [[Generation II]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation I}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation II}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Bite}}
| style="background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="background:#{{Dark color}}" | {{typecolor|Dark}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Gust}}
| style="background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="background:#{{Flying color}}" | {{typecolor|Flying}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Karate Chop}}
| style="background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="background:#{{Fighting color}}" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Sand-Attack}}
| style="background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="background:#{{Ground color}}" | {{typecolor|Ground}}
|}
|}



====[[Generation IV]] to [[Generation V]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation IV}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation V}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Curse}}
| style="background:#{{Unknown color}}" | {{typecolor|???}}
| style="background:#{{Ghost color}}" | {{typecolor|Ghost}}
|}
|}

====[[Generation V]] to [[Generation VI]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Type}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation V}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation VI}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Charm}}
| style="background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="background:#{{Fairy color}}" | {{typecolor|Fairy}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Moonlight}}
| style="background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="background:#{{Fairy color}}" | {{typecolor|Fairy}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Sweet Kiss}}
| style="background:#{{Normal color}}" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="background:#{{Fairy color}}" | {{typecolor|Fairy}}
|}
|}

==Damage category changes==
===Between generations===
====[[Generation I]] to [[Generation II]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation I}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation II}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Bite}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{Physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|}
|}



====[[Generation III]] to [[Generation IV]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation III}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation IV}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Acid}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Aeroblast}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Air Cutter}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|AncientPower}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Beat Up}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Bite}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Blaze Kick}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Bullet Seed}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Clamp}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Crabhammer}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Crunch}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Dive}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Doom Desire}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Dragon Claw}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Faint Attack}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Fire Punch}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Flame Wheel}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Gust}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Hidden Power}}
| style="background:#{{unknown color}}" | {{color2|{{unknown textcolor}}|:Category:Moves that change type|Varies}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Hyper Beam}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Hyper Voice}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Ice Ball}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Ice Punch}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Icicle Spear}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Knock Off}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Leaf Blade}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Mud Shot}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Mud Sport}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Mud-Slap}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Needle Arm}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Night Shade}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Outrage}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Pursuit}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Razor Leaf}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Razor Wind}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Sacred Fire}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Shadow Ball}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Signal Beam}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Silver Wind}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Sludge}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Sludge Bomb}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Smog}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Snore}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|SonicBoom}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Spark}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Spit Up}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Swift}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Thief}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|ThunderPunch}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Tri Attack}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Uproar}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Vine Whip}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Volt Tackle}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Waterfall}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
| style="background:#{{physical color}}" | {{color2|{{physical textcolor}}|Physical move|Physical}}
|-
| style="text-align:left" | {{m|Weather Ball}}
| style="background:#{{unknown color}}" | {{color2|{{unknown textcolor}}|:Category:Moves that change type|Varies}}
| style="background:#{{special color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Special move|Special}}
|}
|}



==Targeting changes==
===Between generations===


====[[Generation III]] to [[Generation IV]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! colspan="2" | Target
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation III}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation IV}}
|-
| {{m|Surf}}
| width="150px" style="background:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #D8D8D8;" |
{| width="100%" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; border-collapse:collapse;"
| style="background: #ED1C24; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
| style="background: #ED1C24; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
|-
| style="background: #709AD1; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
| style="background: #709AD1; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
|-
| colspan="3" style="line-height:10px;" | All foes
|}
| width="150px" style="background:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #D8D8D8;" |
{| width="100%" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; border-collapse:collapse;"
| style="background: #ED1C24; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
| style="background: #ED1C24; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
|-
| style="background: #709AD1; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
| style="background: #ED1C24; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
|-
| colspan="3" style="line-height:10px;" | All but user
|}
|}
|}

====[[Generation IV]] to [[Generation V]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! colspan="2" | Target
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation IV}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation V}}
|-
| {{m|Poison Gas}}
| width="150px" style="background:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #D8D8D8;" |
{| width="100%" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; border-collapse:collapse;"
| style="background: #FF4500; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
| style="background: #FF4500; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
|-
| style="background: #709AD1; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
| style="background: #FF4500; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
|-
| colspan="3" style="line-height:10px;" | Any other Pokémon
|}
| width="150px" style="background:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #D8D8D8;" |
{| width="100%" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; border-collapse:collapse;"
| style="background: #ED1C24; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
| style="background: #ED1C24; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
|-
| style="background: #709AD1; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
| style="background: #709AD1; border: 1px solid #000000; line-height:6px;" |  
|-
| colspan="3" style="line-height:10px;" | All adjacent foes
|}
|}
|}
==Contact changes==
===Between generations===
====[[Generation III]] to [[Generation IV]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Contact}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation III}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation IV}}
|-
| {{m|AncientPower}} 
| Makes contact
| Does not make contact
|}
|}
==Priority changes==
===Between generations===
====[[Generation I]] to [[Generation II]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Priority}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation I}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation II}}
|-
| {{m|Roar}}
| <tt>0</tt>
| <tt>-1</tt>
|-
| {{m|Whirlwind}}
| <tt>0</tt>
| <tt>-1</tt>
|}
|}
====[[Generation II]] to [[Generation III]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Priority}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation II}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation III}}
|-
| {{m|Roar}}
| <tt>-1</tt>
| <tt>-5</tt>
|-
| {{m|Whirlwind}}
| <tt>-1</tt>
| <tt>-5</tt>
|}
|}

====[[Generation III]] to [[Generation IV]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Priority}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation III}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation IV}}
|-
| {{m|Bide}}
| <tt>0</tt>
| <tt>+1</tt>
|-
| {{m|Roar}}
| <tt>-5</tt>
| <tt>-6</tt>
|-
| {{m|Whirlwind}}
| <tt>-5</tt>
| <tt>-6</tt>
|}
|}

====[[Generation IV]] to [[Generation V]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Priority}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation IV}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation V}}
|-
| {{m|ExtremeSpeed}}
| <tt>+1</tt>
| <tt>+2</tt>
|-
| {{m|Fake Out}}
| <tt>+1</tt>
| <tt>+3</tt>
|-
| {{m|Protect}}
| <tt>+3</tt>
| <tt>+4</tt>
|-
| {{m|Detect}}
| <tt>+3</tt>
| <tt>+4</tt>
|}
|}

====[[Generation V]] to [[Generation VI]]====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf;" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! rowspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Move}}
! colspan="2" | {{color2|000000|Priority}}
|- style="background: #ddf;"
! {{color2|000000|Generation V}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation VI}}
|-
| {{m|Follow Me}}
| <tt>+3</tt>
| <tt>+2</tt>
|-
| {{m|Magic Room}}
| <tt>-7</tt>
| <tt>0</tt>
|-
| {{m|Rage Powder}}
| <tt>+3</tt>
| <tt>+2</tt>
|-
| {{m|Wonder Room}}
| <tt>-7</tt>
| <tt>0</tt>
|}
|}

==Name changes==
===English===
====Between generations====
=====[[Generation II]] to [[Generation III]]=====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="background: #FFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf"
! colspan="2" | {{color|000|Name}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
! {{color2|000|Generation II}}
! {{color2|000|Generation III}}
|-
|Conversion2
|{{m|Conversion 2}}
|}
|}

=====[[Generation V]] to [[Generation VI]]=====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="background: #FFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf"
! colspan="2" | {{color|000|Name}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
! {{color2|000|Generation V}}
! {{color2|000|Generation VI}}
|-
|AncientPower
|{{m|Ancient Power}}
|-
|BubbleBeam
|{{m|Bubble Beam}}
|-
|DoubleSlap
|{{m|Double Slap}}
|-
|DragonBreath
|{{m|Dragon Breath}}
|-
|DynamicPunch
|{{m|Dynamic Punch}}
|-
|ExtremeSpeed
|{{m|Extreme Speed}}
|-
|Faint Attack
|{{m|Feint Attack}}
|-
|FeatherDance
|{{m|Feather Dance}}
|-
|GrassWhistle
|{{m|Grass Whistle}}
|-
|Hi Jump Kick
|{{m|High Jump Kick}}
|-
|PoisonPowder
|{{m|Poison Powder}}
|-
|Sand-Attack
|{{m|Sand Attack}}
|-
|Selfdestruct
|{{m|Self-Destruct}}
|-
|SmellingSalt
|{{m|Smelling Salts}}
|-
|SmokeScreen
|{{m|Smokescreen}}
|-
|Softboiled
|{{m|Soft-Boiled}}
|-
|SolarBeam
|{{m|Solar Beam}}
|-
|SonicBoom
|{{m|Sonic Boom}}
|-
|ThunderPunch
|{{m|Thunder Punch}}
|-
|ThunderShock
|{{m|Thunder Shock}}
|-
|ViceGrip
|{{m|Vice Grip}}
|}
|}

===French===
====Between generations====
=====[[Generation V]] to [[Generation VI]]=====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="background: #FFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf"
! rowspan="2" | {{color|000|English name}}
! colspan="2" | {{color|000|French name}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
! {{color2|000|Generation V}}
! {{color2|000|Generation VI}}
|-
|{{m|Ancient Power}}
|Pouv.Antique
|Pouvoir Antique
|-
|{{m|Destiny Bond}}
|Prlvt Destin
|Prélèvement Destin
|-
|{{m|Extreme Speed}}
|Vit.Extrême
|Vitesse Extrême
|-
|{{m|Flamethrower}}
|Lance-Flamme
|Lance-Flammes
|-
|{{m|Glare}}
|Intimidation{{tt|*|Same name as the Ability Intimidate in French}}
|Regard Médusant
|-
|{{m|Guard Split}}
|PartageGarde
|Partage Garde
|-
|{{m|Hidden Power}}
|Puiss. Cachée
|Puissance Cachée
|-
|{{m|Night Shade}}
|Ténèbres{{tt|*|Same name as the type Dark in French}}
|Ombre Nocturne
|-
|{{m|Power Split}}
|PartageForce
|Partage Force
|-
|{{m|Rage Powder}}
|PoudreFureur
|Poudre Fureur
|-
|{{m|Shift Gear}}
|Chgt Vitesse
|Changement Vitesse
|-
|{{m|Stored Power}}
|ForceAjoutée
|Force Ajoutée
|}
|}

===German===
====Between generations====
=====[[Generation I]] to [[Generation II]]=====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="background: #FFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf"
! rowspan="2" | {{color|000|English name}}
! colspan="2" | {{color|000|German name}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
! {{color2|000|Generation I}}
! {{color2|000|Generation II}}
|-
|{{m|Transform}}
|Wandler
|Verwandler
|}
|}

=====[[Generation II]] to [[Generation III]]=====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="background: #FFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf"
! rowspan="2" | {{color|000|English name}}
! colspan="2" | {{color|000|German name}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
! {{color2|000000|Generation II}}
! {{color2|000000|Generation III}}
|-
|{{m|Transform}}
|Verwandler
|Wandler
|}
|}

===Italian===
====Between generations====
=====[[Generation II]] to [[Generation III]]=====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="background: #FFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf"
! rowspan="2" | {{color|000|English name}}
! colspan="2" | {{color|000|Italian name}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
! {{color2|000|Generation II}}
! {{color2|000|Generation III}}
|-
|{{m|Pound}}
|Libbra
|Botta
|-
|{{m|Focus Energy}}
|Energy Conc.
|Focalenergia
|}
|}

=====[[Generation V]] to [[Generation VI]]=====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="background: #FFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf"
! rowspan="2" | {{color|000|English name}}
! colspan="2" | {{color|000|Italian name}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
! {{color2|000|Generation V}}
! {{color2|000|Generation VI}}
|-
|{{m|Counter}}
|Contatore
|Contrattacco
|-
|{{m|Glare}}
|Bagliore
|Sguardo Feroce
|}
|}

===Spanish===
====Between generations====
=====[[Generation II]] to [[Generation III]]=====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="background: #FFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf"
! rowspan="2" | {{color|000|English name}}
! colspan="2" | {{color|000|Spanish name}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
! {{color2|000|Generation II}}
! {{color2|000|Generation III}}
|-
|{{m|Swords Dance}}
|Danza-Espada
|Danza Espada
|}
|}

=====[[Generation V]] to [[Generation VI]]=====
{| style="margin:auto; background: #ddf; border: 3px solid #ccf" class="roundy"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" style="background: #FFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse" cellpadding="2px"
|- style="background: #ddf"
! rowspan="2" | {{color|000|English name}}
! colspan="2" | {{color|000|Spanish name}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
! {{color2|000|Generation V}}
! {{color2|000|Generation VI}}
|-
|{{m|Constrict}}
|Restricción
|Constricción
|-
|{{m|Counter}}
|Contador
|Contraataque
|-
|{{m|Horn Leech}}
|Astadrenaje
|Asta Drenaje
|-
|{{m|Return}}
|Retroceso
|Retribución
|-
|{{m|Sacred Sword}}
|Espadasanta
|Espada Santa
|-
|{{m|Slam}}
|Portazo
|Atizar
|}
|}
{{-}}

{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}

[[Category:Moves|*]]
[[Category:Lists]]

[[it:Elenco delle mosse modificate]]

Pokémon Bank

2014-05-05T09:28:54Z

Shepeedy: /* Pokémon Storage */

{{NintendoService
|name=Pokémon Bank
|logo=[[File:Pokémon Bank logo.png|150px]]
|caption=The logo of Pokémon Bank.
|provider=[[Nintendo]]
|launched={{tt|December 25, 2013|initial launch}}, {{tt|January 22, 2014|second launch}}<ref name=Nintendo of America Twitter>[https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/425815499956445184]</ref> (Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and Hong Kong)<ref name=pokemoncojp>[http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/xy/system/06.html Pokémon.co.jp]</ref><ref>[http://www.nintendo.co.kr/PR/press_list.php?cPage1=1&cPage2=1&idx=100&press_div=P 포켓몬 뱅크 Pokémon Bank] (Korean - Korea)</ref><ref>[http://www.nintendo.tw/pressrelease/3ds_20131004xy_12.htm 任天堂溥天股份有限公司] (Traditional Chinese - Taiwan)</ref><ref>[http://www.nintendo.com.hk/pressrelease/3ds_20131004xy_12.htm 任天堂(香港)有限公司網站] (Traditional Chinese - Hong Kong)</ref>

February 4, 2014 (Europe, Australia, and New Zealand)

February 5, 2014 (The Americas)


|serviceprovided=Online Pokémon storage
|accessableby=[[Nintendo 3DS]] ([[Nintendo 3DS XL|XL]], [[Nintendo 2DS|2DS]])
|externallink=http://www.pokemonbank.com/en-us/ (English)
}}
{{bulbanews|game}}
The '''Pokémon Bank''' (Japanese: '''ポケモンバンク''' ''Pokémon Bank'') is a downloadable online application for the [[Nintendo 3DS]] that is available for the {{wp|Nintendo eShop}}. It serves as a complement to [[Pokémon X and Y]] and the [[Pokémon Storage System]].

Due to server expenses, use of the software requires the payment of an annual fee. This fee is ¥500 in Japan, $4.99 in {{pmin|the United States}} and {{pmin|Canada}}, £4.49 in {{pmin|the United Kingdom}}, €4.99 in Europe, $6.50 in {{pmin|Australia}}, $8.50 in {{pmin|New Zealand}}, ₩5000 in {{pmin|South Korea}}, $150 in {{pmin|Greater China|Taiwan}}, $40 in {{pmin|Greater China|Hong Kong}} and R$ 8.99 in {{pmin|Brazil}}. A free 30-day trial was offered and could be instated until January 31, 2014 before the service was postponed due to server issues.<ref name=pokemoncojp/> An Internet connection is required to download and use the service.

==Features==
===Pokémon Storage===
[[File:XY Prerelease Pokémon Bank box.png|thumb|Pokémon Bank being used in a copy of Pokémon X]]
The main feature of Pokémon Bank is the possibility of [[Player character|player]]s depositing up to 3000 Pokémon from the games in an online cloud. The referred cloud will work as a [[PC]], and will have 100 Boxes capable of carrying, like in a normal PC, 30 Pokémon each. Boxes can also be categorized into groups (with a maximum of 10 groups), and the player can customize the name of each group. The service features extensive search options and filters, allowing the player to locate deposited Pokémon. Pokémon from Generation VI games can be transferred to the service individually, or entire Boxes can be transferred at once.

[[Brigette]] (the host of [[Pokémon Box Ruby and Sapphire]]) maintains the Pokémon Bank service. She gives the player 100 [[Poké Mile]]s when Pokémon are deposited for the first time into Pokémon Bank, although the player can also opt to receive rewards in the form of [[Battle Point]]s instead. Additional Poké Miles are awarded for the length of time that a given Pokémon is deposited into Pokémon Bank. The amount of Poké Miles earned by the player increases if more Pokémon are deposited into Pokémon Bank. Both Poké Miles and Battle Points are sent to Pokémon X and Y using the in-game option called Pokémon Link.

Pokémon that are holding [[Berry|Berries]] or other [[item]]s cannot be deposited into Pokémon Bank, and it is advised to return any held items to the [[Bag]] prior to depositing Pokémon. If the player attempts to deposit Pokémon that are holding Berries or other items, the items will be removed and sent to the player's Bag. Items held by Pokémon being deposited into Pokémon Bank will disappear if the player's bag is full.

[[:Category:Pokémon that evolve through trading|Pokémon that]] [[evolution|evolve]] via [[trade|trading]] will not evolve if sent to Pokémon Bank.

Any number of physical or digital copies of Pokémon X and Y can be used in conjunction with the service. Pokémon Bank can be utilized at any point after the player obtains the [[Pokédex]] in Pokémon X and Y. The service cannot be used if a new game in Pokémon X and Y has not been started. If a player owns multiple copies of Pokémon Bank on different Nintendo 3DS systems, Pokémon cannot be transferred between those Pokémon Banks.

Pokémon Bank accounts are tied to the user's [[Nintendo Network]] ID, which cannot be used across multiple Nintendo 3DS systems. While Pokémon X and Y are region-locked themselves, Pokémon Bank can still communicate with an X or Y game card of any region when it is inserted into a Nintendo 3DS, although Nintendo does not make any guarantee for the performance of software or systems in the Nintendo 3DS family when used outside of their intended regions.

When Pokémon Bank (along with Poké Transporter) is downloaded, any restrictions on the Nintendo 3DS system for Shopping Services need to be removed within the Parental Controls before Pokémon Bank can be utilized. Any restrictions set in place pertaining to usage of the Nintendo 3DS's Internet browser also require removal each time that the Pokémon Bank software is used.

After the expiration of the aforementioned trial period, Pokémon in Pokémon Bank can still be withdrawn (without an annual pass) for a set period of time before the Pokémon are lost.

===Poké Transporter===
{{main|Poké Transporter}}
After the download of Pokémon Bank, it is possible to use a separately downloaded application, the Poké Transporter, to transfer Pokémon from [[Generation V]] games to the cloud. After this, it is possible to complete such migration by simply downloading them to the [[Generation VI]] game.

Anything that can be transferred from older generation games to Generation V is transportable. That means Pokémon as far back as [[Generation III]] can be transferred—those from Generation III have to be transferred to [[Generation IV]] using the [[Pal Park]] and then to Generation V at the [[Poké Transfer Lab]]. From there, they can be sent to the Bank.

Additionally, the migration of certain Pokémon from Generation V via Pokémon Bank will trigger the availability of certain items within Pokémon X and Y. The transfer of {{p|Kyurem}} and {{p|Genesect}} allows the [[DNA Splicers]] and the [[Drives]], respectively, to become available within X and Y.

===Event Pokémon===
{{bulbanews|Nintendo Direct announces Celebi distribution}}
{{main|List of game-based Pokémon distributions in Generation VI}}
If the player accesses Pokémon Bank before September 30, 2014, they can receive a special event {{p|Celebi}}. This particular Celebi knows {{m|Hold Back}}, an event-exclusive move similar to {{m|False Swipe}}.
{{G6event|
ball=Luxury|
pokemon=Celebi|
nick=Celebi|
level=10|
game=5b|
ndex=251|
dexno=251|
types=2|
typea=Psychic|
typeb=Grass|
otcolor=black|
ot=(Player's)|
id=(Player's)|
ability1=Natural Cure|
nature=Random|
encounter=fateful|
met=Pokémon Link|
type1=Normal|move1=Recover|
type2=Normal|move2=Heal Bell|
type3=Normal|move3=Safeguard|
type4=Normal|move4=Hold Back|
recieve=Pokémon Link|
ribbon=Classic|
country={{tt|Hong Kong, Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan|December 25, 2013 to September 30, 2014}}; {{tt|Australia, Europe, and New Zealand|February 4 to September 30, 2014}}; {{tt|North America|February 5 to September 30, 2014}}|
datedis=2013 and 2014|
disdate=3|
x=yes|
y=yes|
bank=yes|
distribution=no}}

==Server issues==
{{bulbanews|Pokémon Bank unavailable until further notice for Asia, Europe, Australia, Americas}}
On December 25, 2013, Pokémon Bank and the Poké Transporter were both released in Japan, South Korea, and other Asian territories. Due to high volumes of traffic throughout the Nintendo Network caused by a large volume of [[Nintendo Network]] IDs being created,<ref>[https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/statuses/415959724043956224 Twitter / NintendoAmerica]</ref> the [[Nintendo eShop]] was temporarily inaccessible.<ref>[http://kotaku.com/nintendo-online-services-broken-now-continuing-christm-1489822952 Kotaku - Nintendo's Online Services Broken Now, Continuing Christmas Malfunctions]</ref><ref>[http://www.nintendo.co.jp/support/information/2013/1226.html Nintendo of Japan ~ "ニンテンドーeショップの接続障害に伴う『ポケモンバンク』の一時配信停止のお知らせ"]</ref> When the Nintendo eShop was accessible again on December 29, 2013,<ref>[https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/417346368340885504 Twitter / NintendoAmerica]</ref> Pokémon Bank was removed from the Nintendo eShop (although players who had previously downloaded Pokémon Bank could still download Poké Transporter, which can only be downloaded through Pokémon Bank).{{fact}} In addition, the release of Pokémon Bank and Poké Transporter for the Americas, Europe, Australia, and New Zealand—originally set to be December 27, 2013—was delayed due to the aforementioned issues.<ref>[http://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2393/p/430 Pokémon Bank Announcement | Nintendo 3DS Family | Nintendo Support]</ref>{{dead link}}

On January 21, 2014, Pokémon Bank was re-released in Japan, South Korea, and other Asian territories.<ref>[https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/425815499956445184 Twitter / NintendoAmerica]</ref>

The service was launched in Europe, Australia, and New Zealand on February 4, 2014. <ref>https://twitter.com/NintendoEurope/status/430673592527769600</ref>

The service was launched in the Americas on February 5, 2014.

==Gallery==
<gallery>
CoroCoro_January_2014_p63.jpg|Interacting with [[Brigette]] in Pokémon Bank
</gallery>

==Official trailers==
===English===
{{youtubevid|sTfSDbrskfE|Pokemon|Kalos}}

==In other languages==
{{langtable|color={{x color}}|bordercolor={{y color}}|textcolor=FFF
|fr=Banque Pokémon
|de=Pokémon Bank
|it=Banca Pokémon
|ko=포켓몬 뱅크 ''Pokémon Bank''
|es=Banco de Pokémon
}}

==External links==
* [http://www.pokemonbank.com Pokémon Bank website]

==References==
<references/>

{{-}}
{{Spin-off series}} 
{{Project Games notice|game mechanic}}

[[Category:Pokémon X and Y]]
[[Category:Service]]

[[de:Pokémon Bank]]
[[fr:Banque Pokémon]]
[[it:Banca Pokémon]]
[[ja:ポケモンバンク]]
[[zh:神奇宝贝银行]]

Pokémon Bank

2014-05-05T09:26:55Z

Shepeedy: /* Pokémon Storage */

{{NintendoService
|name=Pokémon Bank
|logo=[[File:Pokémon Bank logo.png|150px]]
|caption=The logo of Pokémon Bank.
|provider=[[Nintendo]]
|launched={{tt|December 25, 2013|initial launch}}, {{tt|January 22, 2014|second launch}}<ref name=Nintendo of America Twitter>[https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/425815499956445184]</ref> (Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and Hong Kong)<ref name=pokemoncojp>[http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/xy/system/06.html Pokémon.co.jp]</ref><ref>[http://www.nintendo.co.kr/PR/press_list.php?cPage1=1&cPage2=1&idx=100&press_div=P 포켓몬 뱅크 Pokémon Bank] (Korean - Korea)</ref><ref>[http://www.nintendo.tw/pressrelease/3ds_20131004xy_12.htm 任天堂溥天股份有限公司] (Traditional Chinese - Taiwan)</ref><ref>[http://www.nintendo.com.hk/pressrelease/3ds_20131004xy_12.htm 任天堂(香港)有限公司網站] (Traditional Chinese - Hong Kong)</ref>

February 4, 2014 (Europe, Australia, and New Zealand)

February 5, 2014 (The Americas)


|serviceprovided=Online Pokémon storage
|accessableby=[[Nintendo 3DS]] ([[Nintendo 3DS XL|XL]], [[Nintendo 2DS|2DS]])
|externallink=http://www.pokemonbank.com/en-us/ (English)
}}
{{bulbanews|game}}
The '''Pokémon Bank''' (Japanese: '''ポケモンバンク''' ''Pokémon Bank'') is a downloadable online application for the [[Nintendo 3DS]] that is available for the {{wp|Nintendo eShop}}. It serves as a complement to [[Pokémon X and Y]] and the [[Pokémon Storage System]].

Due to server expenses, use of the software requires the payment of an annual fee. This fee is ¥500 in Japan, $4.99 in {{pmin|the United States}} and {{pmin|Canada}}, £4.49 in {{pmin|the United Kingdom}}, €4.99 in Europe, $6.50 in {{pmin|Australia}}, $8.50 in {{pmin|New Zealand}}, ₩5000 in {{pmin|South Korea}}, $150 in {{pmin|Greater China|Taiwan}}, $40 in {{pmin|Greater China|Hong Kong}} and R$ 8.99 in {{pmin|Brazil}}. A free 30-day trial was offered and could be instated until January 31, 2014 before the service was postponed due to server issues.<ref name=pokemoncojp/> An Internet connection is required to download and use the service.

==Features==
===Pokémon Storage===
[[File:XY Prerelease Pokémon Bank box.png|thumb|Pokémon Bank being used in a copy of Pokémon X]]
The main feature of Pokémon Bank is the possibility of [[Player character|player]]s depositing up to 3000 Pokémon from the games in an online cloud. The referred cloud will work as a [[PC]], and will have 100 Boxes capable of carrying, like in a normal PC, 30 Pokémon each. Boxes can also be categorized into groups (with a maximum of 10 groups), and the player can customize the name of each group. The service features extensive search options and filters, allowing the player to locate deposited Pokémon. Pokémon from Generation V games can be transferred to the service individually, or entire Boxes can be transferred at once.

[[Brigette]] (the host of [[Pokémon Box Ruby and Sapphire]]) maintains the Pokémon Bank service. She gives the player 100 [[Poké Mile]]s when Pokémon are deposited for the first time into Pokémon Bank, although the player can also opt to receive rewards in the form of [[Battle Point]]s instead. Additional Poké Miles are awarded for the length of time that a given Pokémon is deposited into Pokémon Bank. The amount of Poké Miles earned by the player increases if more Pokémon are deposited into Pokémon Bank. Both Poké Miles and Battle Points are sent to Pokémon X and Y using the in-game option called Pokémon Link.

Pokémon that are holding [[Berry|Berries]] or other [[item]]s cannot be deposited into Pokémon Bank, and it is advised to return any held items to the [[Bag]] prior to depositing Pokémon. If the player attempts to deposit Pokémon that are holding Berries or other items, the items will be removed and sent to the player's Bag. Items held by Pokémon being deposited into Pokémon Bank will disappear if the player's bag is full.

[[:Category:Pokémon that evolve through trading|Pokémon that]] [[evolution|evolve]] via [[trade|trading]] will not evolve if sent to Pokémon Bank.

Any number of physical or digital copies of Pokémon X and Y can be used in conjunction with the service. Pokémon Bank can be utilized at any point after the player obtains the [[Pokédex]] in Pokémon X and Y. The service cannot be used if a new game in Pokémon X and Y has not been started. If a player owns multiple copies of Pokémon Bank on different Nintendo 3DS systems, Pokémon cannot be transferred between those Pokémon Banks.

Pokémon Bank accounts are tied to the user's [[Nintendo Network]] ID, which cannot be used across multiple Nintendo 3DS systems. While Pokémon X and Y are region-locked themselves, Pokémon Bank can still communicate with an X or Y game card of any region when it is inserted into a Nintendo 3DS, although Nintendo does not make any guarantee for the performance of software or systems in the Nintendo 3DS family when used outside of their intended regions.

When Pokémon Bank (along with Poké Transporter) is downloaded, any restrictions on the Nintendo 3DS system for Shopping Services need to be removed within the Parental Controls before Pokémon Bank can be utilized. Any restrictions set in place pertaining to usage of the Nintendo 3DS's Internet browser also require removal each time that the Pokémon Bank software is used.

After the expiration of the aforementioned trial period, Pokémon in Pokémon Bank can still be withdrawn (without an annual pass) for a set period of time before the Pokémon are lost.

===Poké Transporter===
{{main|Poké Transporter}}
After the download of Pokémon Bank, it is possible to use a separately downloaded application, the Poké Transporter, to transfer Pokémon from [[Generation V]] games to the cloud. After this, it is possible to complete such migration by simply downloading them to the [[Generation VI]] game.

Anything that can be transferred from older generation games to Generation V is transportable. That means Pokémon as far back as [[Generation III]] can be transferred—those from Generation III have to be transferred to [[Generation IV]] using the [[Pal Park]] and then to Generation V at the [[Poké Transfer Lab]]. From there, they can be sent to the Bank.

Additionally, the migration of certain Pokémon from Generation V via Pokémon Bank will trigger the availability of certain items within Pokémon X and Y. The transfer of {{p|Kyurem}} and {{p|Genesect}} allows the [[DNA Splicers]] and the [[Drives]], respectively, to become available within X and Y.

===Event Pokémon===
{{bulbanews|Nintendo Direct announces Celebi distribution}}
{{main|List of game-based Pokémon distributions in Generation VI}}
If the player accesses Pokémon Bank before September 30, 2014, they can receive a special event {{p|Celebi}}. This particular Celebi knows {{m|Hold Back}}, an event-exclusive move similar to {{m|False Swipe}}.
{{G6event|
ball=Luxury|
pokemon=Celebi|
nick=Celebi|
level=10|
game=5b|
ndex=251|
dexno=251|
types=2|
typea=Psychic|
typeb=Grass|
otcolor=black|
ot=(Player's)|
id=(Player's)|
ability1=Natural Cure|
nature=Random|
encounter=fateful|
met=Pokémon Link|
type1=Normal|move1=Recover|
type2=Normal|move2=Heal Bell|
type3=Normal|move3=Safeguard|
type4=Normal|move4=Hold Back|
recieve=Pokémon Link|
ribbon=Classic|
country={{tt|Hong Kong, Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan|December 25, 2013 to September 30, 2014}}; {{tt|Australia, Europe, and New Zealand|February 4 to September 30, 2014}}; {{tt|North America|February 5 to September 30, 2014}}|
datedis=2013 and 2014|
disdate=3|
x=yes|
y=yes|
bank=yes|
distribution=no}}

==Server issues==
{{bulbanews|Pokémon Bank unavailable until further notice for Asia, Europe, Australia, Americas}}
On December 25, 2013, Pokémon Bank and the Poké Transporter were both released in Japan, South Korea, and other Asian territories. Due to high volumes of traffic throughout the Nintendo Network caused by a large volume of [[Nintendo Network]] IDs being created,<ref>[https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/statuses/415959724043956224 Twitter / NintendoAmerica]</ref> the [[Nintendo eShop]] was temporarily inaccessible.<ref>[http://kotaku.com/nintendo-online-services-broken-now-continuing-christm-1489822952 Kotaku - Nintendo's Online Services Broken Now, Continuing Christmas Malfunctions]</ref><ref>[http://www.nintendo.co.jp/support/information/2013/1226.html Nintendo of Japan ~ "ニンテンドーeショップの接続障害に伴う『ポケモンバンク』の一時配信停止のお知らせ"]</ref> When the Nintendo eShop was accessible again on December 29, 2013,<ref>[https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/417346368340885504 Twitter / NintendoAmerica]</ref> Pokémon Bank was removed from the Nintendo eShop (although players who had previously downloaded Pokémon Bank could still download Poké Transporter, which can only be downloaded through Pokémon Bank).{{fact}} In addition, the release of Pokémon Bank and Poké Transporter for the Americas, Europe, Australia, and New Zealand—originally set to be December 27, 2013—was delayed due to the aforementioned issues.<ref>[http://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2393/p/430 Pokémon Bank Announcement | Nintendo 3DS Family | Nintendo Support]</ref>{{dead link}}

On January 21, 2014, Pokémon Bank was re-released in Japan, South Korea, and other Asian territories.<ref>[https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/425815499956445184 Twitter / NintendoAmerica]</ref>

The service was launched in Europe, Australia, and New Zealand on February 4, 2014. <ref>https://twitter.com/NintendoEurope/status/430673592527769600</ref>

The service was launched in the Americas on February 5, 2014.

==Gallery==
<gallery>
CoroCoro_January_2014_p63.jpg|Interacting with [[Brigette]] in Pokémon Bank
</gallery>

==Official trailers==
===English===
{{youtubevid|sTfSDbrskfE|Pokemon|Kalos}}

==In other languages==
{{langtable|color={{x color}}|bordercolor={{y color}}|textcolor=FFF
|fr=Banque Pokémon
|de=Pokémon Bank
|it=Banca Pokémon
|ko=포켓몬 뱅크 ''Pokémon Bank''
|es=Banco de Pokémon
}}

==External links==
* [http://www.pokemonbank.com Pokémon Bank website]

==References==
<references/>

{{-}}
{{Spin-off series}} 
{{Project Games notice|game mechanic}}

[[Category:Pokémon X and Y]]
[[Category:Service]]

[[de:Pokémon Bank]]
[[fr:Banque Pokémon]]
[[it:Banca Pokémon]]
[[ja:ポケモンバンク]]
[[zh:神奇宝贝银行]]

Pokémon Bank

2014-05-05T09:25:48Z

Shepeedy:

{{NintendoService
|name=Pokémon Bank
|logo=[[File:Pokémon Bank logo.png|150px]]
|caption=The logo of Pokémon Bank.
|provider=[[Nintendo]]
|launched={{tt|December 25, 2013|initial launch}}, {{tt|January 22, 2014|second launch}}<ref name=Nintendo of America Twitter>[https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/425815499956445184]</ref> (Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and Hong Kong)<ref name=pokemoncojp>[http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/xy/system/06.html Pokémon.co.jp]</ref><ref>[http://www.nintendo.co.kr/PR/press_list.php?cPage1=1&cPage2=1&idx=100&press_div=P 포켓몬 뱅크 Pokémon Bank] (Korean - Korea)</ref><ref>[http://www.nintendo.tw/pressrelease/3ds_20131004xy_12.htm 任天堂溥天股份有限公司] (Traditional Chinese - Taiwan)</ref><ref>[http://www.nintendo.com.hk/pressrelease/3ds_20131004xy_12.htm 任天堂(香港)有限公司網站] (Traditional Chinese - Hong Kong)</ref>

February 4, 2014 (Europe, Australia, and New Zealand)

February 5, 2014 (The Americas)


|serviceprovided=Online Pokémon storage
|accessableby=[[Nintendo 3DS]] ([[Nintendo 3DS XL|XL]], [[Nintendo 2DS|2DS]])
|externallink=http://www.pokemonbank.com/en-us/ (English)
}}
{{bulbanews|game}}
The '''Pokémon Bank''' (Japanese: '''ポケモンバンク''' ''Pokémon Bank'') is a downloadable online application for the [[Nintendo 3DS]] that is available for the {{wp|Nintendo eShop}}. It serves as a complement to [[Pokémon X and Y]] and the [[Pokémon Storage System]].

Due to server expenses, use of the software requires the payment of an annual fee. This fee is ¥500 in Japan, $4.99 in {{pmin|the United States}} and {{pmin|Canada}}, £4.49 in {{pmin|the United Kingdom}}, €4.99 in Europe, $6.50 in {{pmin|Australia}}, $8.50 in {{pmin|New Zealand}}, ₩5000 in {{pmin|South Korea}}, $150 in {{pmin|Greater China|Taiwan}}, $40 in {{pmin|Greater China|Hong Kong}} and R$ 8.99 in {{pmin|Brazil}}. A free 30-day trial was offered and could be instated until January 31, 2014 before the service was postponed due to server issues.<ref name=pokemoncojp/> An Internet connection is required to download and use the service.

==Features==
===Pokémon Storage===
[[File:XY Prerelease Pokémon Bank box.png|thumb|Pokémon Bank being used in a copy of Pokémon X]]
The main feature of Pokémon Bank is the possibility of [[Player character|player]]s depositing up to 3000 Pokémon from the games in an online cloud. The referred cloud will work as a [[PC]], and will have 100 Boxes capable of carrying, like in a normal PC, 30 Pokémon each. Boxes can also be categorized into groups (with a maximum of 10 groups), and the player can customize the name of each group. The service features extensive search options and filters, allowing the player to locate deposited Pokémon. Pokémon from Generation V can be transferred to the service individually, or entire Boxes can be transferred at once.

[[Brigette]] (the host of [[Pokémon Box Ruby and Sapphire]]) maintains the Pokémon Bank service. She gives the player 100 [[Poké Mile]]s when Pokémon are deposited for the first time into Pokémon Bank, although the player can also opt to receive rewards in the form of [[Battle Point]]s instead. Additional Poké Miles are awarded for the length of time that a given Pokémon is deposited into Pokémon Bank. The amount of Poké Miles earned by the player increases if more Pokémon are deposited into Pokémon Bank. Both Poké Miles and Battle Points are sent to Pokémon X and Y using the in-game option called Pokémon Link.

Pokémon that are holding [[Berry|Berries]] or other [[item]]s cannot be deposited into Pokémon Bank, and it is advised to return any held items to the [[Bag]] prior to depositing Pokémon. If the player attempts to deposit Pokémon that are holding Berries or other items, the items will be removed and sent to the player's Bag. Items held by Pokémon being deposited into Pokémon Bank will disappear if the player's bag is full.

[[:Category:Pokémon that evolve through trading|Pokémon that]] [[evolution|evolve]] via [[trade|trading]] will not evolve if sent to Pokémon Bank.

Any number of physical or digital copies of Pokémon X and Y can be used in conjunction with the service. Pokémon Bank can be utilized at any point after the player obtains the [[Pokédex]] in Pokémon X and Y. The service cannot be used if a new game in Pokémon X and Y has not been started. If a player owns multiple copies of Pokémon Bank on different Nintendo 3DS systems, Pokémon cannot be transferred between those Pokémon Banks.

Pokémon Bank accounts are tied to the user's [[Nintendo Network]] ID, which cannot be used across multiple Nintendo 3DS systems. While Pokémon X and Y are region-locked themselves, Pokémon Bank can still communicate with an X or Y game card of any region when it is inserted into a Nintendo 3DS, although Nintendo does not make any guarantee for the performance of software or systems in the Nintendo 3DS family when used outside of their intended regions.

When Pokémon Bank (along with Poké Transporter) is downloaded, any restrictions on the Nintendo 3DS system for Shopping Services need to be removed within the Parental Controls before Pokémon Bank can be utilized. Any restrictions set in place pertaining to usage of the Nintendo 3DS's Internet browser also require removal each time that the Pokémon Bank software is used.

After the expiration of the aforementioned trial period, Pokémon in Pokémon Bank can still be withdrawn (without an annual pass) for a set period of time before the Pokémon are lost.

===Poké Transporter===
{{main|Poké Transporter}}
After the download of Pokémon Bank, it is possible to use a separately downloaded application, the Poké Transporter, to transfer Pokémon from [[Generation V]] games to the cloud. After this, it is possible to complete such migration by simply downloading them to the [[Generation VI]] game.

Anything that can be transferred from older generation games to Generation V is transportable. That means Pokémon as far back as [[Generation III]] can be transferred—those from Generation III have to be transferred to [[Generation IV]] using the [[Pal Park]] and then to Generation V at the [[Poké Transfer Lab]]. From there, they can be sent to the Bank.

Additionally, the migration of certain Pokémon from Generation V via Pokémon Bank will trigger the availability of certain items within Pokémon X and Y. The transfer of {{p|Kyurem}} and {{p|Genesect}} allows the [[DNA Splicers]] and the [[Drives]], respectively, to become available within X and Y.

===Event Pokémon===
{{bulbanews|Nintendo Direct announces Celebi distribution}}
{{main|List of game-based Pokémon distributions in Generation VI}}
If the player accesses Pokémon Bank before September 30, 2014, they can receive a special event {{p|Celebi}}. This particular Celebi knows {{m|Hold Back}}, an event-exclusive move similar to {{m|False Swipe}}.
{{G6event|
ball=Luxury|
pokemon=Celebi|
nick=Celebi|
level=10|
game=5b|
ndex=251|
dexno=251|
types=2|
typea=Psychic|
typeb=Grass|
otcolor=black|
ot=(Player's)|
id=(Player's)|
ability1=Natural Cure|
nature=Random|
encounter=fateful|
met=Pokémon Link|
type1=Normal|move1=Recover|
type2=Normal|move2=Heal Bell|
type3=Normal|move3=Safeguard|
type4=Normal|move4=Hold Back|
recieve=Pokémon Link|
ribbon=Classic|
country={{tt|Hong Kong, Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan|December 25, 2013 to September 30, 2014}}; {{tt|Australia, Europe, and New Zealand|February 4 to September 30, 2014}}; {{tt|North America|February 5 to September 30, 2014}}|
datedis=2013 and 2014|
disdate=3|
x=yes|
y=yes|
bank=yes|
distribution=no}}

==Server issues==
{{bulbanews|Pokémon Bank unavailable until further notice for Asia, Europe, Australia, Americas}}
On December 25, 2013, Pokémon Bank and the Poké Transporter were both released in Japan, South Korea, and other Asian territories. Due to high volumes of traffic throughout the Nintendo Network caused by a large volume of [[Nintendo Network]] IDs being created,<ref>[https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/statuses/415959724043956224 Twitter / NintendoAmerica]</ref> the [[Nintendo eShop]] was temporarily inaccessible.<ref>[http://kotaku.com/nintendo-online-services-broken-now-continuing-christm-1489822952 Kotaku - Nintendo's Online Services Broken Now, Continuing Christmas Malfunctions]</ref><ref>[http://www.nintendo.co.jp/support/information/2013/1226.html Nintendo of Japan ~ "ニンテンドーeショップの接続障害に伴う『ポケモンバンク』の一時配信停止のお知らせ"]</ref> When the Nintendo eShop was accessible again on December 29, 2013,<ref>[https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/417346368340885504 Twitter / NintendoAmerica]</ref> Pokémon Bank was removed from the Nintendo eShop (although players who had previously downloaded Pokémon Bank could still download Poké Transporter, which can only be downloaded through Pokémon Bank).{{fact}} In addition, the release of Pokémon Bank and Poké Transporter for the Americas, Europe, Australia, and New Zealand—originally set to be December 27, 2013—was delayed due to the aforementioned issues.<ref>[http://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2393/p/430 Pokémon Bank Announcement | Nintendo 3DS Family | Nintendo Support]</ref>{{dead link}}

On January 21, 2014, Pokémon Bank was re-released in Japan, South Korea, and other Asian territories.<ref>[https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/425815499956445184 Twitter / NintendoAmerica]</ref>

The service was launched in Europe, Australia, and New Zealand on February 4, 2014. <ref>https://twitter.com/NintendoEurope/status/430673592527769600</ref>

The service was launched in the Americas on February 5, 2014.

==Gallery==
<gallery>
CoroCoro_January_2014_p63.jpg|Interacting with [[Brigette]] in Pokémon Bank
</gallery>

==Official trailers==
===English===
{{youtubevid|sTfSDbrskfE|Pokemon|Kalos}}

==In other languages==
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|fr=Banque Pokémon
|de=Pokémon Bank
|it=Banca Pokémon
|ko=포켓몬 뱅크 ''Pokémon Bank''
|es=Banco de Pokémon
}}

==External links==
* [http://www.pokemonbank.com Pokémon Bank website]

==References==
<references/>

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[[Category:Pokémon X and Y]]
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KISEKI

2014-03-06T12:34:03Z

Shepeedy: /* Italian */

'''KISEKI''' (Japanese for ''Miracles'') is the ending theme to [[Pokémon X and Y]]. An acoustic version of the song is played during the game's credits, with lyrics displayed in multiple languages on the lower screen of the Nintendo 3DS console. The song has separate lyrics in each of the seven languages Pokémon X and Y were released in. No version with vocals has been released.

When ''KISEKI'' is played in the credits, lyrics to the verses are displayed in two languages. The first is the language the game is played in. If played in English, Japanese, or Korean, the second language is French; if played in Spanish, French, Italian, or German, the second language is Japanese, displayed with [[wp:Kana|kana]]. Lyrics to the chorus are shown simultaneously in all seven languages Pokémon X and Y were released in, with the game language shown at the top.

== Lyrics ==

=== English ===

<ab>You and I were born
right here in the same world.

For this one brief life,
we're beneath the same sky.

The great flow of time.
The wide expanse of space.

We are lucky enough
to share this lifetime we get.

We can gain more if we give.
By taking, we only lose.

Let us make this a new age
where we show our gratitude.

There's a fragile bud of hope,
blooming in each of our hearts.

Don't you take that away.
Our dreams are meant to be shared.

Let it grow. Let it live.
Let us see what it will bring.

When we share in our love,
we make a beautiful world.

Search it out, and find the way:
the point where we can all meet.

The point where we're all the same.
There it lies: the future we seek.

Start from there, and then we'll forge
a world where all can be free.

Free to dream, and free to smile.
Free to be who we will be.

Let's make sure we create...

A world of our hopes and dreams.

In our brief lives,
we've managed to meet.
Treasure this gift,
this precious time that we have.

In our brief lives,
we've managed to meet.
Treasure this gift,
this precious time that we have.</ab>

=== Spanish ===

{| cellpadding="5"
! Original
! Translation
|-
| <ab>En el planeta tú y yo
juntos podemos vivir

en armonía y paz
si sabemos compartir.

Maravillas sin par
juntos podemos crear.

Nuestra generación
unida lo logrará.

Ayudando entre todos
y mostrando gratitud

podremos construir
juntos un mundo mejor.

Si cuidamos de una flor
poniendo nuestro corazón,

pronto fruto dará
si no hay envidia o temor.

Comparte con los demás
el fruto de nuestra flor.

Un tesoro será
y forjará nuestra unión.

Ven conmigo a cantar
con la voz del corazón.

No dejes de soñar,
nunca pierdas la ilusión.

Juntos vamos a crear
nuestro mundo de amistad,

un lugar especial,
y tus sueños se cumplirán.

Mostrando gratitud

creamos un mundo mejor.

Una generación
que junta podrá construir
maravillas sin par
si sabemos compartir.

Una generación
que junta podrá construir
maravillas sin par
si sabemos compartir.</ab>

| <ab>Together you and I,
can live on this planet

in harmony and peace
if we know how to share.

Unparalleled wonders
we can create together.

United, our generation
will make it.

Helping between all
and showing gratitude

we would be able to build
a better world together.

If we take care of a flower,
putting our heart into it,

it will soon bloom and give fruit
if there's no envy or fear.

Share with everyone else
the fruit of our flower.

A treasure it will be
and it will forge our union.

Come with me to sing
with the voice of the heart.

Never stop dreaming,
never lose hope.

Together we will create
our world of friendship,

a special place,
and your dreams will all come true.

By showing gratitude

we create a better world.

A generation
that will be able to build
unparalleled wonders
if we know how to share.

A generation
that will be able to build
unparalleled wonders
if we know how to share.</ab>
|}

=== French ===

{| cellpadding="5"
! Original
! Translation
|-
| <ab>Si un jour enfin
nous prenions le temps

De voir autrement
la beauté des gens.

D'apprécier la chance
de pouvoir les côtoyer,

Et de vivre ces années
par miracle à leurs côtés.

Construisons tous ensemble
cette époque de nos rêves,

Saisissons notre chance
et pensons à la partager.

Gardons-nous de dérober
ce qu'il faut laisser grandir,

Laissons donc s'épanouir
les fleurs de la bonté.

Offrons tout jusqu'au jour
où chacun pourra s'ouvrir

À un monde où plus personne
ne sera étranger.

Là où nos chemins
se croisaient par pure chance

Peut naître un monde
qui fera toujours sens.

Un monde où la chaleur,
nourrie par la gratitude,

Nous fera tous oublier
les hivers les plus rudes.

Où donner fera battre

Le cœur de l'humanité.

Au fil des vies,
au fond des gens
Dort un futur,
miracle du printemps.

Au fil des vies,
au fond des gens
Dort un futur,
miracle du printemps.</ab>

| <ab>If, finally, one day,
we would take the time

To see differently
the beauty of people,

To appreciate the chance
to be able to meet them,

And to live these years,
by a miracle, at their sides,

Let us all together construct
this age of our dreams,

Let us seize our chance
and think about sharing it.

Let us beware of stealing
that which should be left to grow,

Thus, let us allow
the flowers of kindness to blossom.

Let us offer all until the day
where each one can open himself

To a world where no one
will be a stranger anymore.

There, where our paths
crossed by pure chance

A world can be born
that will always make sense.

A world where fervor,
nourished by gratitude,

Will make us all forget
the harshest of winters.

Where giving will make building

The heart of humanity.

Over the course of lifetimes,
at the essence of people
A future is sleeping,
the miracle of spring.

Over the course of lifetimes,
at the essence of people
A future is sleeping,
the miracle of spring.</ab>
|}

=== German ===

{| cellpadding="5"
! Original
! Translation
|-
| <ab>Weit ist unsre Welt
und kurz dort unsere Zeit.

Wie hoch war die Chance,
dass uns das Los vereint?

Am leben zu sein,
schon wie ein Wunder erscheint...

Hundert Jahr' sind ein Tag
im kosmischen Lauf der Zeit!

Reichen wir einander die Hand
voller Dank, dass man sich fand.

Legen wir das Fundament
einer neuen Generation!

Wo das Glück zart Wurzeln schlägt,
wird zu oft auch Neid gesät.

Fasse Mut – Unkraut vergeht,
doch wahre Freundschaft besteht!

Wenn die Blüte dann erwacht,
gib behutsam auf sie Acht.

Zeig der Welt ihre Pracht,
gemeinsam zieht aus ihr Kraft!

Suchen wir, was uns vereint,
das „F“ und „D“ von Freund und Feind,

wo die Einträchtigkeit keimt,
an den Schnittpunkten unsrer Zeit.

Und schon bald wird es geschehen,
eine neue Welt wird entstehen,

in sich eins fast wie im Traum,
unerreicht in Zeit und in Raum.

Lass uns diese Zukunft bauen,

erfüllt von Dank und Vertrauen!

Einhundert Jahr'
hat uns das Leben vereint.
Wunder geschehen,
wenn wir uns nur verstehen.

Einhundert Jahr'
hat uns das Leben vereint.
Wunder geschehen,
wenn wir uns nur verstehen.</ab>

| <ab>Wide is our world
and short our time there.

How high was the chance
that fate would unite us?

Just being alive
appears a miracle...

A hundred years is one day
in the cosmic flow of time!

Let us hold out our hands to each other,
full of gratitude for having been found.

Let us lay the foundation
of a new generation!

Where happiness tenderly puts down its roots
will also envy too often be sown.

Have courage – a weed wanes,
but true friendship remains!

When the blossoms then wake,
watch them delicately.

Show the world their glory;
together, power flows from them!

Let us seek what unites us,
the 'F' and 'D' in 'friend' and 'foe',{{tt|*|foe is 'Feind' in German}}

where harmony blooms
at the intersection of our time.

And soon it will come to pass
that a new world will be born,

united almost like in dreams,
unmatched in time and in space.

Let us build this future

filled with gratitude and trust!

For a hundred years
life has united us.
Miracles happen
if we only understand ourselves.

For a hundred years
life has united us.
Miracles happen
if we only understand ourselves.</ab>
|}

=== Italian ===

{| cellpadding="5"
! Original
! Translation
|- style="vertical-align:bottom;"
| <ab>Ho incontrato te
su questo grande pianeta

Un attimo e c'è
prezioso incontro di vita

Miracolo è già
d'eterna immensità

Trovo te, trovi me
ha dell'incredibile!

Forza, dai, vieni con me
ringraziamo il nostro destino

Impegniamoci e vedrai
che il futuro siamo noi!

Rispettiamoci per
condividere il mondo e poi

Aiutiamoci perché
così cresciamo io e te!

L'armonia solo c'è
dove prospera la bontà

Diamoci un dono che
sarà quel che ci unirà!

Noi saremo così
in unione con l'infinità

E s'incrocian diversità
da cui sboccerà l'unità!

Pensa al mondo che nascerà
quanti sogni e desideri

Costruiamo un futuro che
rifletta il possibile!

Costruiamo un futuro di...

Bellezza e felicità!

Nel tempo di...
Questa vita mia...
Incontro la tua...
Un miracolo è già!

Nel tempo di...
Questa vita mia...
Incontro la tua...
Un miracolo è già!</ab>

| <ab>Over the course of...
This life of mine...
The encounter with yours...
Is already a miracle!

Over the course of...
This life of mine...
The encounter with yours...
Is already a miracle!</ab>
|}

=== Japanese ===

{| cellpadding="5"
! With kanji
! Kana
! Translation
|-
| <ab>{{tt|この星の　同じ時代に|Kono hoshi no onaji jidai ni}}

{{tt|生きる人と　出会うこと|Ikiru hito to deaukoto}}

{{tt|宇宙の　時の　中では|Uchū no toki no naka de wa}}

{{tt|たった　１００年　奇跡の出会い|Tatta hyaku nen kiseki no deai}}

{{tt|相手を包み　感謝しよう|Aite wo tsutsumi kansha shiyō}}

{{tt|ともに　次代を　作っていこう|Tomo ni jidai wo tsukutteikō}}

{{tt|小さなつぼみ　奪い合わずに|Chiisa na tsubomi ubai awazu ni}}

{{tt|ともに　守り　育んでいこう|Tomo ni mamori hagukundeikō}}

{{tt|咲いた花に　優しさ　添えて|Saita hana ni yasashisa soete}}

{{tt|贈り合えば　心　つながる|Okuri aeba kokoro tsunagaru}}

{{tt|人と宇宙が　ひとつになれる|Hito to uchū ga hitotsu ni nareru}}

{{tt|軸が交わる　ポイント　探せば|Jiku ga majiwaru pointo sagaseba}}

{{tt|夢が　あふれる　世界　生まれる|Yume ga afureru sekai umareru}}

{{tt|たった　ひとつの　輝く世界|Tatta hitotsu no kagayaku sekai}}

{{tt|感謝　あふれる|Kansha afureru}}

{{tt|未来　作ろう|Mirai tsukurou}}

{{tt|重なる|Kasanaru}}
{{tt|１００年の|hyaku nen no}}
{{tt|出会いが|deai ga}}
{{tt|奇跡を生む|kiseki wo umu}}

{{tt|重なる|Kasanaru}}
{{tt|１００年の|hyaku nen no}}
{{tt|出会いが|deai ga}}
{{tt|奇跡を生む|kiseki wo umu}}</ab>

| <ab>この　ほしの　おなじ　じだいに

いきるひとと　であうこと

うちゆうの　ときの　なかでは

たった　１００ねん　きせきの　であい

あいてを　つつみ　かんしゃしよう

ともに　じだいを　つくっていこう

ちいさなつぼみ　うばいあわずに

ともに　まもり　はぐくんでいこう

さいた　はなに　やさしさ　そえて

おくりあえば　こころ　つながる

ひとと　うちゆうが　ひとつになれる

じくがまじわる　ポイント　さがせば

ゆめが　あふれる　せかい　うまれる

たった　ひとつの　かがやくせかい

かんしゃ　あふれる

みらい　つくろう

かさなる
１００ねんの
であいが
きせきをうむ

かさなる
１００ねんの
であいが
きせきをうむ</ab>

| <ab>In this world and era

lives encounter one another

Throughout all time and space

a miraculous encounter occurs within a mere 100 years

Come together with your companions and give thanks

and build a new era together

Fight not over the tiny buds

But instead protect them together

Gently support the blooming flowers

By giving our hearts become one

Man and the universe become one

if you search for the point where the axis aligns

A world of dreams will be born

A single shining world

Give thanks

And let's build the future

The accumulating
encounters
of a hundred years
give birth to miracles

The accumulating
encounters
of a hundred years
give birth to miracles</ab>
|}

=== Korean ===

{| cellpadding="5"
! Original
! Mixed Hanja
! Translation
|-
| <ab>
{{tt|이 세상에서 같은 시대의 삶을|i sesangeseo gateun sidaeyi salmeul}}
{{tt|함께하는 우리의 만남은|hamggehaneun uliyi mannameun}}
{{tt|우주의 한편 그 시간 중심에서|ujuyi hanpyeon geu sigan jungsimeseo}}
{{tt|오직 한순간의 기적이라 하겠죠.|ojig hansunganyi gijeogila hagessjyo.}}

{{tt|서로의 손을 잡고 사랑한다 전해요.|seoloyi soneul jabgo salanghanda jeonhaeyo.}}
{{tt|모두 함께 시대를 만들어 나아가요.|modu hamgge sidaeleul mandeuleo naagayo.}}

{{tt|우리가 공유하는 조그만 꿈의 씨앗|uliga gongyuhaneun jogeuman ggumyi ssias}}
{{tt|이기심 버리고 푸르게 키워봐요|igisim beoligo puleuge kiweobwayo}}
{{tt|서로를 이해하고 진심을 나누며|seololeul ihaehago jinsimeul nanumyeo}}
{{tt|피어난 미래의 꽃 다 함께 가꾸어요.|pieonan milaeyi ggoc da hamgge gaggueoyo.}}

{{tt|너와 나 우리가 만나는 그 순간에|neowa na uliga mannaneun geu sungane}}
{{tt|인연이 시작되고 운명이 태어나요.|inyeoni sijagdoego unmyeongi taeeonayo.}}
{{tt|찰나의 만남이 눈부신 선물되어|calnayi mannami nunbusin seonmuldoeeo}}
{{tt|어두운 밤하늘을 찬란하게 밝혀요.|eoduun bamhaneuleul canlanhage balghyeoyo.}}

{{tt|소소한 우연이|sosohan uyeoni}}
{{tt|미래를 만들어요.|milaeleul mandeuleoyo.}}

{{tt|흘러가는|heulleoganeun}}
{{tt|이 시간 속에|i sigan soge}}
{{tt|기적이란|gijeogilan}}
{{tt|우리의 만남이죠|uliyi mannamijyo}}

{{tt|흘러가는|heulleoganeun}}
{{tt|이 시간 속에|i sigan soge}}
{{tt|기적이란|gijeogilan}}
{{tt|우리의 만남이죠|uliyi mannamijyo}}</ab>
|<ab>
이 世上에서 같은 時代의 삶을
함께하는 우리의 만남은
宇宙의 한便 그 時間中心에서
오직 한순간의 奇蹟이라 하겠죠

서로의 손을 雜攷 사랑한다 前―요.
모두 함께 時代를 만들어 나아가요.

우리가 共有하는 조그만 꿈의 씨앗
利己心 버리고 푸르게 키워봐요
서로를 理解하고 眞心을 나누며
피어난 未來의 꽃 다 함께 가꾸어요.

너와 나 우리가 만나는 그 瞬間에
因緣이 始作되고 運命이 태어나요.
刹那의 만남이 눈부신 膳物되어
어두운 밤하늘을 燦爛하게 밝혀요.

小小한 偶然이
未來를 만들어요.

흘러가는
이 時間 속에
奇蹟이란
우리의 만남이죠

흘러가는
이 時間 속에
奇蹟이란
우리의 만남이죠
</ab>
|
|}

{{Project Music notice}}

[[Category:Songs]]
[[zh:KISEKI]]

Metagross (Pokémon)

2014-03-01T17:47:28Z

Shepeedy: /* Name origin */

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Metang | next=Regirock | prevnum=375 | nextnum=377 | type=steel | type2=psychic}}
{{Pokémon Infobox |
name=Metagross |
jname=メタグロス |
jtranslit=Metagurosu |
tmname=Metagross |
ndex=376 |
hdex=192 |
u2dex=264 |
fbrow=192 |
obrow=226 |
opbrow=169 |
typebox=1 |
type1=Steel |
type2=Psychic |
species=Iron Leg |
height-ftin=5'03" |
height-m=1.6 |
weight-lbs=1212.5 |
weight-kg=550.0 |
abilityn=d |
ability1=Clear Body |
abilityd=Light Metal |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Mineral |
eggcycles=41 |
evtotal=3 |
evde=3 |
expyield=270 |
oldexp=210 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gendercode=255 |
color=Blue |
catchrate=3 |
body=11 |
pokefordex=metagross |
generation=3 |
friendship=35 |
}}
'''Metagross''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''メタグロス''' ''Metagross'') is a dual-type {{2t|Steel|Psychic}} [[pseudo-legendary Pokémon]].

It [[Evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Metang}} starting at [[level]] 45. It is the final form of {{p|Beldum}}.

==Biology==
Metagross is a robotic Pokémon with a turquoise, disc-shaped body and four legs. The main body appears to serve as both head and body, and this Pokémon’s overall construction gives it the appearance of a mechanized arachnid. It uses its heavy body to pin down its prey before consuming them with its large mouth. A large, metallic cross is situated in the center of its face. On either side of the cross, a red eye peers out from a space in Metagross's metallic armor. Its four legs are joined to the main body by ball-and-socket joints. While the upper portion of the legs is relatively thin, they are considerably thicker below the knee. Each leg has three short claws on the end and a flat, blunt protrusion extending over the knee. The legs can be tucked in, allowing Metagross to float in the air.

Metagross is the result of two {{p|Metang}} fusing together. This gives Metagross four brains in total, all connected by a complex network of neurons. Because of these complex connections and the number of brains, this Pokémon is capable of complex calculations and is more intelligent than a supercomputer. It uses its intelligence to analyze its opponents during battle. This Pokémon can be found on {{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Rough-terrain Pokémon|rough terrains.}}

==In the anime==
[[File:Rebecca Metagross.png|thumb|left|250px|Metagross in the anime]]
[[File:Sugimori Metagross AG.jpg|thumb|right|250px|[[Ken Sugimori|Sugimori]] reference sheet for the anime]]
===Major appearances===
Metagross was first seen in ''[[M07|Destiny Deoxys]]'' under the ownership of {{mov|Rebecca}}.

Metagross's anime debut was in ''[[AG125|Like a Meowth to a Flame]]'' as one of {{ho|Tyson}}'s Pokémon.

{{FB|Salon Maiden|Anabel}}'s Metagross was seen in ''[[AG169|Talking a Good Game]]'' and ''[[AG170|Second Time's the Charm]]''.

A Metagross also appeared in ''[[DP051|Glory Blaze!]]'' belonging to a {{OBP|Psychic|Trainer class}}.

A wild {{Shiny}} Metagross appeared in ''[[DP117|Noodles: Roamin' Off]]'' where it attacked {{TRT}}.

A wild Metagross appeared in ''[[DP158|Regaining the Home Advantage!]]'', where it battled non-stop with a {{p|Magnezone}}. These two Pokémon normally battled with each other on a regular basis until their "battle arena" (a deep crater) became filled with water. Because their crater was no longer usable, they took their battle to the streets of a nearby town, and continued fighting, causing much collateral damage.

===Minor appearances===
[[File:Shiny Metagross.png|thumb|left|220px|Shiny Metagross in the anime]]
Another Metagross appeared in ''[[M13|Zoroark: Master of Illusions]]'' under the ownership of a [[Pokémon Baccer]].
{{-}}

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}
{{Animedexbody|DP051|Metagross|Dawn's Pokédex|Metagross, the Iron Leg Pokémon. With its four brains, it has an intelligence rivaling a supercomputer.}}
{{Animedexbody|DP158|Metagross|Dawn's Pokédex|Metagross, the Iron Leg Pokémon and the evolved form of {{p|Metang}}. Metagross has four legs and uses many powerful [[move]]s.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond & Pearl''|Sinnoh}}

==In the manga==
[[File:Steven Adventures.png|200px|thumb|Art of {{Steven}} and his Metagross]]
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
{{Steven}} in [[Pokémon Adventures]] owns a Metagross. It's his flight Pokémon, carrying him from place to place with its levitation abilities. He also owns a {{p|Metang}} and many {{p|Beldum}}, which, along with his Metagross, help dig out and find rare stones in caves.

{{adv|Emerald}} borrowed a Metagross caught by {{adv|Crystal}} for use in the [[Battle Dome]] final against {{FB|Dome Ace|Tucker}}, which Emerald ultimately lost. Tucker himself also mentioned having a Metagross which has yet to be seen.

===In the Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure! manga===
[[Koya]] has a Metagross which first appeared in ''[[DPA23|A New Battle Begins!]]''.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Metagross (TCG)}}

==In the TFG==
One Metagross figure has been released.
* {{TFG|Groundbreakers}}: {{TFG ID|Groundbreakers|Metagross|21}}

==Other appearances==
===[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]===
[[File:SSBB Metagross.png|220px|right|thumb|Metagross in Super Smash Bros Brawl]]
Upon its release from its [[Poké Ball]], it will stay in one place and repeatedly use {{m|Earthquake}}. Anyone caught underneath the Pokémon will be buried into the ground and thus unable to move for a few moments, until Metagross uses its attack and all the hit characters are blasted upwards.

Metagross was featured as one of the Pokémon released from a Poké Ball in the demo of [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]] at Jumpfesta; however, it hovered above the stage before attacking, unlike in the actual game.

====Trophy Information====

''"An Iron Leg Pokémon. When two Beldum combine, they evolve into Metang. In the same way, Metagross is the result of two Metang combining. It's said to have the intelligence to match a supercomputer. Though it weighs 1,212.5 pounds, it is somehow able to fold up its legs and float."''

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=steel
|type2=psychic
|gen=3
|rubydex=Metagross has four brains in total. Combined, the four brains can breeze through difficult calculations faster than a supercomputer. This Pokémon can float in the air by tucking in its four legs.
|sapphiredex=Metagross is the result of two {{p|Metang}} achieving fusion. When hunting, this Pokémon pins the prey to the ground under its massive body. It then eats the helpless victim using the large mouth on its stomach.
|emeralddex=Metagross has four brains that are joined by a complex neural network. As a result of integration, this Pokémon is smarter than a supercomputer.
|frlgdex=It is formed by two Metang fusing. Its four brains are said to be superior to a supercomputer.
|dpptdex=Metang combined to form it. With four brains, it has the intelligence of a supercomputer.
|hgssdex=It folds its four legs when flying. Its four brains are said to be superior to a supercomputer.
|bwdex=Metang combined to form it. With four brains, it has the intelligence of a supercomputer.
|b2w2dex=With four linked brains, it's more intelligent than a supercomputer, and it uses calculations to analyze foes.
|xdex=With four linked brains, it's more intelligent than a supercomputer, and it uses calculations to analyze foes.
|ydex=Metang combined to form it. With four brains, it has the intelligence of a supercomputer.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability |
gen=3 |
type=steel |
type2=psychic|
rsarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Metang}} |
earea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Metang}} |
colorarity=One |
coloarea=[[Realgam Tower]] |
coloshadow=yes |
frlgex=rse|
dparea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Metang}} |
ptarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Metang}} |
hgssarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Metang}} |
palarea=Mountain |
bwrarity=Rare |
bwarea=[[Giant Chasm]] ({{DL|Phenomenon|rustling grass}}) |
b2w2rarity=Rare |
b2w2area=[[Giant Chasm]] ({{DL|Phenomenon|rustling grass}}) |
xyarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Metang}} |
}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=Steel
|type2=Psychic
|pinballrs=Evolve from {{p|Metang}}
|trozei=[[Phobos Secret Fort: Phobosphere|Phobosphere]] Trozei Battle [[Mr. Who's Den]]
|md=Evolve from {{p|Metang}}
|md2=Evolve from {{p|Metang}}
|ranger=[[Go-Rock Squad Base]]
|ranger2=Evolve from {{p|Metang}}
|ranger3=[[Rand's House]] [[Thunder Temple]] [[Light Temple]]
|pokepark=[[Cavern Zone]]
|rumble2=Factory: [[World Axle - B2F]]
|conquest=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Metang}}
}}

====In events====
{{eventAvail/h|type=steel|type2=psychic}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|BW}}|JR Kyushu Train Station Metagross|Japanese|Japan|50|April 23 to May 6, 2012|link=List of local Japanese event Pokémon distributions in Generation V#Metagross 2}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|B2W2}}|Strongest Class Single Battle Metagross|Japanese|Japan|100|September 15 to October 28, 2012|link=List of local Japanese event Pokémon distributions in Generation V#Metagross}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|B2W2}}|Strongest Class Pokémon Gift Metagross|Korean|South Korea|100|February 24 to May 5, 2013|link=List of local Korean event Pokémon distributions in Generation V#Metagross}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|BWB2W2}}|Video Game Championships 2013 Metagross|English|Europe and the United States|45|May 12 to July 7, 2013|link=List of local English event Pokémon distributions in Generation V#Video Game Championships 2013 Metagross}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|BWB2W2}}|Video Game Championships 2013 Metagross|French|Europe and the United States|45|May 12 to July 7, 2013|link=List of local French event Pokémon distributions in Generation V#Video Game Championships 2013 Metagross}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|BWB2W2}}|Video Game Championships 2013 Metagross|German|Europe and the United States|45|May 12 to July 7, 2013|link=List of local German event Pokémon distributions in Generation V#Video Game Championships 2013 Metagross}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|BWB2W2}}|Video Game Championships 2013 Metagross|Italian|Europe and the United States|45|May 12 to July 7, 2013|link=List of local Italian event Pokémon distributions in Generation V#Video Game Championships 2013 Metagross}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|BWB2W2}}|Video Game Championships 2013 Metagross|Spanish|Europe and the United States|45|May 12 to July 7, 2013|link=List of local Spanish event Pokémon distributions in Generation V#Video Game Championships 2013 Metagross}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|BWB2W2}}|Pokémon Game Show Steven's Metagross|Japanese|Japan|58|August 17 to 18, 2013|link=List of local Japanese event Pokémon distributions in Generation V#Steven's Metagross}}
|}

====Pokémon Global Link promotions====
{{eventAvail/h|type=steel|type2=psychic}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|BW}}|Global Link Metagross|English|PGL|45|May 30 to July 25, 2013|link=List of Pokémon Global Link promotions/Pokémon#Metagross}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|B2W2}}|Global Link Metagross|English|PGL|45|May 30 to July 25, 2013|link=List of Pokémon Global Link promotions/Pokémon#Driftveil Gym Season Metagross}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|BW}}|Global Link Metagross|French|PGL|45|May 30 to July 25, 2013|link=List of Pokémon Global Link promotions/Pokémon#Metagross}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|B2W2}}|Global Link Metagross|French|PGL|45|May 30 to July 25, 2013|link=List of Pokémon Global Link promotions/Pokémon#Driftveil Gym Season Metagross}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|BW}}|Global Link Metagross|German|PGL|45|May 30 to July 25, 2013|link=List of Pokémon Global Link promotions/Pokémon#Metagross}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|B2W2}}|Global Link Metagross|German|PGL|45|May 30 to July 25, 2013|link=List of Pokémon Global Link promotions/Pokémon#Driftveil Gym Season Metagross}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|BW}}|Global Link Metagross|Italian|PGL|45|May 30 to July 25, 2013|link=List of Pokémon Global Link promotions/Pokémon#Metagross}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|B2W2}}|Global Link Metagross|Italian|PGL|45|May 30 to July 25, 2013|link=List of Pokémon Global Link promotions/Pokémon#Driftveil Gym Season Metagross}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|BW}}|Global Link Metagross|Spanish|PGL|45|May 30 to July 25, 2013|link=List of Pokémon Global Link promotions/Pokémon#Metagross}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|B2W2}}|Global Link Metagross|Spanish|PGL|45|May 30 to July 25, 2013|link=List of Pokémon Global Link promotions/Pokémon#Driftveil Gym Season Metagross}}
|}

===Held items===
{{HeldItems
|type=steel|type2=psychic|Frontier=yes
|e1=Metal Coat|e1type=Type-enhancing item|e1rar=5
|colo1=Metal Coat|colo1type=Type-enhancing item|colo1rar=100
|ranch1=Occa Berry|ranch1type=Berry|ranchlang=jap|ranch1rar=100
|bw1=Metal Coat|bw1type=Type-enhancing item|bw1rar=5
|b2w21=Metal Coat|b2w21type=Type-enhancing item|b2w21rar=5
|event1=Choice Band|event1type=In-battle effect item|event1rar=100
|event2=Lum Berry|event2type=Berry|event2rar=100
|event3=Sitrus Berry|event3type=Berry|event3rar=100
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=steel |
type2=psychic |
HP= 80 |
Attack= 135 |
Defense=130 |
SpAtk= 95 |
SpDef= 90 |
Speed= 70 }}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|type=Steel
|type2=Psychic
|Speed=1
|SpeedMax=2
|Power=4
|PowerMax=5
|Technique=4
|TechniqueMax=4
|Stamina=4
|StaminaMax=5
|Jump=2
|JumpMax=2
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{TypeEffectiveness|
type1=steel|
type2=psychic|
Normal= 50 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 50 |
Poison= 0 |
Ground= 200 |
Rock= 50 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 200 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 25 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 50 |
Dark= 200 |
Fairy= 50 |

notes=yes|
steel=yes|
newpoison=1|gen5dark=yes
|gen5ghost=yes
|olddark=1
|oldghost2=1}}

===Learnset===
====By [[level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh/6|Metagross|Steel|Psychic|3}}
{{learnlist/level6|Start|Magnet Rise|Electric|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/level6|Start|Take Down|Normal|Physical|90|85|20}}
{{learnlist/level6|Start|Metal Claw|Steel|Physical|50|95|35||'''}}
{{learnlist/level6|Start|Confusion|Psychic|Special|50|100|25||'''}}
{{learnlist/level6|20|Confusion|Psychic|Special|50|100|25||'''}}
{{learnlist/level6|20|Metal Claw|Steel|Physical|50|95|35||'''}}
{{learnlist/level6|23|Pursuit|Dark|Physical|40|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level6|26|Miracle Eye|Psychic|Status|—|—|40}}
{{learnlist/level6|29|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level6|32|Bullet Punch|Steel|Physical|40|100|30||'''}}
{{learnlist/level6|35|Scary Face|Normal|Status|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/level6|38|Agility|Psychic|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/level6|41|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level6|44|Meteor Mash|Steel|Physical|90|90|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level6|45|Hammer Arm|Fighting|Physical|100|90|10}}
{{learnlist/level6|53|Iron Defense|Steel|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/level6|62|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5||}}
{{learnlist/levelf/6|Metagross|Steel|Psychic|3}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh|Metagross|Steel|Psychic|5|3}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM01|Hone Claws|Dark|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM03|Psyshock|Psychic|Special|80|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM16|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM19|Telekinesis|Psychic|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM26|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM29|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM30|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM31|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM33|Reflect|Psychic|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM36|Sludge Bomb|Poison|Special|90|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM37|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM39|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM40|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM64|Explosion|Normal|Physical|250|100|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM68|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM69|Rock Polish|Rock|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM70|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM74|Gyro Ball|Steel|Physical|—|100|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM78|Bulldoze|Ground|Physical|60|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM80|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM86|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM91|Flash Cannon|Steel|Special|80|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM94|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM01|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM04|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tmf|Metagross|Steel|Psychic|5|3}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh/6|Metagross|Steel|Psychic|3}}
{{learnlist/breed5null}}
{{learnlist/breedf/6|Metagross|Steel|Psychic|3}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh/6|Metagross|steel|psychic|3}}
{{learnlist/tutor5null}}
{{learnlist/tutorf/6|Metagross|steel|psychic|3}}

====By a prior [[evolution]]====
{{Learnlist/prevoh|Metagross|Steel|Psychic|5|3}}
{{Learnlist/prevo5|374|Beldum|d||||Iron Head|Steel|Physical|80|100|15|'''|BW}}
{{Learnlist/prevof|Metagross|Steel|Psychic|5|3}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=steel |
type2=psychic |
ndex=376 |
pinballrs=Evolve |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=2 |
rate=Evolve |
area=Magnetic Quarry |
P1=There is nothing to fear, for I have merged with others! |
P2=This is disheartening... My HP has been reduced by half... |
P3=The situation is dire... My body is close to disintegration... |
PL=I've leveled up! My merged power grows stronger still! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=yes |
group=Steel |
assist=Psychic |
field=Crush |
fieldpower=3 |
loop=30 |
MinEXP=326 |
MaxEXP=396 |
browser=Metagross fires a calamitous beam. Its power is overwhelming. |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=-10 |
iq=E |
Ranger3=yes |
group3=Steel |
assist3=Steel |
field3=Crush |
field3power=1 |
assist3p=Normal |
field3p=Crush |
field3ppower=1 |
browser3=It protects itself with psychic orbs and launches powerful beams. |
rumble2=yes|
rumble2attack=5|
rumble2defense=5|
rumble2speed=3|
Pad=Metagross was drawn to the fun-loving atmosphere of the PokéPark. He loves to play, especially at {{DL|Attractions|Bastiodon's Block Barrage}}. |
Conquest=yes |
ConquestAtk=5 |
ConquestSpd=3 |
ConquestDef=5 |
ConquestHP=3 |
ConquestRange=3 |
ConquestMove={{m|Meteor Mash}} |
ConquestAbility1={{DL|List of Abilities in Pokémon Conquest|Clear Body}} |
ConquestAbility2={{DL|List of Abilities in Pokémon Conquest|Bodyguard}} |
ConquestAbility3={{DL|List of Abilities in Pokémon Conquest|Thrust}} |
ConquestEvo=Evolves from {{p|Metang}} when its Attack is 110 or higher |
ConquestLink={{DL|List of Pokémon Conquest characters|Nobutsuna}}, '''[[Tadakatsu]]''', and {{DL|List of Pokémon Conquest characters|Yoshiteru}}
}}

===Evolution===
{{Evobox-3
|type1=Steel
|pictype=art
|no1=374
|name1=Beldum
|type1-1=Steel
|type2-1=Psychic
|evo1={{bag|Rare Candy}} {{color2|000|Level|Level 20}}
|no2=375
|name2=Metang
|type1-2=Steel
|type2-2=Psychic
|evo2={{bag|Rare Candy}} {{color2|000|Level|Level 45}}
|no3=376
|name3=Metagross
|type1-3=Steel
|type2-3=Psychic}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=steel|
type2=psychic|
gen=3|
gender=none|
ndex=376|
name=Metagross|
}}

==Trivia==
* Metagross's number in the [[List of Pokémon by Hoenn Pokédex number|Hoenn Pokédex]] and the [[List of Pokémon by Fiore Browser number|Fiore Browser]] are the same: 192.
* Metagross has the highest {{stat|Defense}} base stat of all non-legendary Psychic types.
* Metagross is the heaviest of all non-legendary Pokémon, and has the highest ratio of [[List of Pokémon by weight|weight]] to [[List of Pokémon by height|height]] of all Pokémon at 345.8 kg/m.
* Metagross and its evolutionary relatives are the only non-legendary Pokémon with a [[catch rate]] of 3.
* Despite being a genderless species, Metagross is referred to as a male in [[PokéPark Wii: Pikachu's Adventure]].

===Origin===
Metagross is similar to a {{wp|robot}}. It also appears to be based on a {{wp|super computer}}, given its mechanical structure and sheer intelligence, and a spider. It is also reminiscent of a UFO.

====Name origin====
Metagross may be a combination of ''metal'' and ''cross'' (referring to its facial feature), ''{{wp|gross (unit)|gross}}'' (referring to its weight [1212 pounds], as a gross is 12×12), or groß ''gross'' (German for ''large'').

==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=steel|type2=psychic
|ja=メタグロス ''Metagross''|jameaning=From ''metal'' and ''cross'' or ''gross'' (referring to its weight [1212 pounds]) or groß ''gross'' (German for large)
|de=Metagross|demeaning=Same as English/Japanese name
|fr=Métalosse|frmeaning=From ''{{tt|métal|metal}}'' and ''{{tt|colosse|colossus}}''
|es=Metagross|esmeaning=Same as English/Japanese name
|it=Metagross|itmeaning=Same as English/Japanese name
|ko=메타그로스 ''Metagross''|komeaning=Same as Japanese name
|zh_cmn=巨金怪 ''Jù Jīn Guài''|zh_cmnmeaning=Literally "Giant gold monster".
}}
 

==Notes==

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{{PokémonPrevNextFoot | prev=Metang | next=Regirock | prevnum=375 | nextnum=377 | type=steel | type2=psychic}}
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Entei (Pokémon)

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Shepeedy: /* Entei (M13) */

{{PokémonPrevNextHead | species=Entei | prev=Raikou | next=Suicune|type=fire|| prevnum=243| nextnum=245}}
{{Pokémon Infobox |
name=Entei |
jname=エンテイ |
tmname=Entei |
species=Volcano |
typebox=1 |
type1=Fire |
abilityn=d |
ability1=Pressure |
abilityd=Flash Fire |
ndex=244 |
jdex=244 |
oldjdex=239 |
hdex=379 |
fbrow=202 |
obrow=186 |
height-ftin=6'11" |
height-m=2.1 |
weight-lbs=436.5 |
weight-kg=198.0 |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Undiscovered |
gendercode=255 |
eggcycles=81 |
evtotal=3 |
evhp=1 |
evat=2 |
expyield=261 |
oldexp=217 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
color=Brown |
catchrate=3 |
body=08 |
pokefordex=entei |
generation=2 |
friendship=35 |
}}
'''Entei''' (Japanese: '''エンテイ''' ''Entei'') is a {{type|Fire}} [[Legendary Pokémon]].

It is not known to [[Evolution|evolve]] into or from any other Pokémon.

Along with {{p|Raikou}} and {{p|Suicune}}, it is one of the [[Legendary beasts]] created by {{p|Ho-Oh}} after the burning of the [[Burned Tower|Brass Tower]]. Out of the three beasts, Entei is said to represent the flames that burned the Brass Tower.

==Biology==
Entei is a massive, {{wp|lion|leonine}} quadruped with some {{wp|mastiff}} qualities. It is covered in brown fur and a long, light gray mane along its entire back. It has gray plates on either side of the mane (making it look like smoke is coming out of a crater on its back) and a plate beneath the cream belly fur on its chest. Entei has gray paws with brown pads and black cuff-like bands on its legs. Its main faceplate is red and shaped like fins or a six-sided star. A gray plate covers its muzzle and resembles a handlebar mustache. It also has a yellow crest with three sloped points on its forehead and red eyes. As a whole, Entei's head appears to resemble a {{wp|kabuto}}.

An Entei is born whenever a new volcano appears. It is also said that whenever Entei roars, a volcano erupts somewhere in the world. Entei races across {{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Grassland Pokémon|grasslands}} at high speeds.

==In the anime==
[[File:Entei M03.png|thumb|left|251px|Entei in the anime]]
[[File:Entei M13.png|thumb|left|251px|A {{Shiny}} Entei in the anime]]
===Major appearances===
====[[Entei (M03)]]====
Entei debuted in the {{pkmn|movie}} ''[[M03|Spell of the Unown]]''. In the movie, an illusionary Entei was a major character who appeared to [[Molly Hale]] after she made a wish on the {{OBP|Unown|M03}}.

====[[Legendary beasts (M13)|Entei (M13)]]====
A [[Legendary beasts (M13)|Shiny Entei]] appeared alongside the other members of its [[Legendary beasts|trio]] and {{p|Celebi}} in the thirteenth Pokémon movie, ''[[M13|Zoroark: Master of Illusions]]''.

====Other====
Entei's first appearance in the flesh was in the episode ''[[EP259|Entei at Your Own Risk]]''.

===Minor appearances===
A {{pkmn2|mirage}} Entei was used by the [[Dr. Yung|Mirage Master]] in ''[[The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon]]''.

Entei made a small cameo in the opening of ''[[M06|Jirachi: Wish Maker]]'', ''[[M08|Lucario and the Mystery of Mew]]'', ''[[M10|The Rise of Darkrai]]'' and ''[[M12|Arceus and the Jewel of Life]]''.

An Entei appeared in a {{TRT}} fantasy in ''[[DP143|An Egg Scramble!]]''.

==In the manga==
[[File:Molly and Entei manga.png|thumb|150px|Entei in the manga adaptation of ''[[M03|Spell of the Unown]]'']]
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
Entei was awakened by {{adv|Yellow}} along with its two counterparts, and the three raced around [[Kanto]] and [[Johto]] looking for {{pkmn|Trainer}}s to help them defeat the [[Masked Man]] to free {{p|Ho-Oh}}. Entei eventually pairs up with [[Blaine]], and later {{adv|Silver}}. In this manga, Entei's fire has a healing effect, burning away disease and evil auras. It is also the move capable of permanently melting away the Masked Man's moving ice sculptures, which typically repair themselves from any attack. After it saves Silver and {{adv|Gold}}'s lives after their defeat against the Masked Man in the [[Lake of Rage]], Blaine uses this fire to burn away the {{p|Mewtwo}} cells infecting his arm, and [[DJ Mary]]'s {{p|Smeargle}} copies this power using {{m|Sketch}}. Once the Masked Man is defeated, Entei once again joins its comrades and roams the land of Johto once again. It has not been seen since.

===In the Pokémon Battle Frontier manga===
{{FB|Salon Maiden|Anabel}} has an Entei which was the final Pokémon that went up against {{OBP|Enta|CBF}} in ''[[CBF6|Final Battle: Versus The Salon Maiden]]''.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Entei (TCG)}}

==Other appearances==
[[File:Entei SSBB.png|220px|thumb|Entei in [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]]]
===[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]/[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl|Brawl]]===
When released from a [[Poké Ball]], Entei unleashes a volcanic {{m|Fire Spin}} that deals a lot of damage to any opponents that get trapped in it.

In Melee, Entei is also featured in the {{sbw|Event 26: Trophy Tussle 2|second Trophy Tussle}} where it is used as a stage akin to the [[Poké Floats]] stage. If the player is the last one standing, the player receives an Entei trophy.

====Melee trophy information====
''A volcanic Fire-type, Entei is hotter than liquid magma and as tough as nails. This powerful creature was one of the three Pokémon running around the Burned Tower of Ecruteak City. Entei is extremely difficult to capture, as it tends to wander all over the landscape, sprouting intense flames from its body.''

====Brawl trophy information====
''"A Volcano Pokémon. When Entei barks, a volcano erupts, and it's said that a new Entei is born every time a volcano appears. A proverb claims that the warmth of summer is created by Entei racing through the clouds. Entei uses {{m|Fire Spin}}, a flaming vortex that traps and damages foes for multiple turns."''

==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
* {{ga|Pokémon Ranger}}: [[Gordor]] considers Entei to be the best and most loyal of the legendary trio. The player captures it when it is first unleashed in the [[Jungle Relic]] but it is still taken by the [[Go-Rock Squad]], using their new Super Styler. Entei later acts as the final boss of the game.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=fire
|gen=2
|golddex=Volcanoes erupt when it barks. Unable to restrain its extreme power, it races headlong around the land.
|silverdex=A Pokémon that races across the land. It is said that one is born every time a new volcano appears.
|crystaldex=This brawny Pokémon courses around the earth, spouting flames hotter than a volcano's magma.
|rsdex=Entei embodies the passion of magma. This Pokémon is thought to have been born in the eruption of a volcano. It sends up massive bursts of fire that utterly consume all that they touch.
|emeralddex=Entei embodies the passion of magma. It is thought to have been born in the eruption of a volcano. It blasts fire that consumes all that it touches.
|firereddex=A Pokémon that races across the land. It is said that one is born every time a new volcano appears.
|leafgreendex=Volcanoes erupt when it barks. Unable to restrain its extreme power, it races headlong around the land.
|stadium2dex=Volcanoes erupt when it barks. Unable to restrain its extreme power, it races headlong around the land.
|dpptdex=It is said that when it roars, a volcano erupts somewhere around the globe.
|heartgolddex=Volcanoes erupt when it barks. Unable to contain its sheer power, it races headlong around the land.
|soulsilverdex=A Pokémon that races across the land. It is said that one is born every time a new volcano appears.
|bwdex=It is said that when it roars, a volcano erupts somewhere around the globe.
|b2w2dex=It is said that when it roars, a volcano erupts somewhere around the globe.
|xdex=A Pokémon that races across the land. It is said that one is born every time a new volcano appears.
|ydex=It is said that when it roars, a volcano erupts somewhere around the globe.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=fire |
gen=2 |
gsrarity=One |
gsarea={{pkmn2|Roaming}} [[Johto]] |
crarity=One |
carea={{pkmn2|Roaming}} [[Johto]] |
gen3ex=frlg|
frlgrarity=One |
frlgarea={{pkmn2|Roaming}} [[Kanto]] (if the [[player character|player]] [[Starter Pokémon|chose]] {{p|Bulbasaur}}) |
colorarity=One |
coloarea=[[Mt. Battle]] |
coloshadow=yes |
gen4ex=hgss |
hgssrarity=One |
hgssarea={{pkmn2|Roaming}} [[Johto]] |
palarea=Mountain |
gen5ex=none |
bwrarity=None |
bwarea=[[Poké Transfer]] [[Relocator]] ({{Shiny}} {{DL|List of Nintendo event Pokémon with in-game effects|Entei|event Entei}} only)|
b2w2ex=none |
b2w2area=[[Poké Transfer]]|
gen6ex=none |
xyarea=[[Poké Transporter]] |
}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=fire
|trozei=Random Agent Cards [[Mr. Who's Den]]
|md=[[Fiery Field]] (30F)
|ranger=[[Fiore Temple]]
|md2=[[Dark Crater]] (B10F) (with [[Mystery Part and Secret Slab|Mystery Part or Secret Slab]] in the bag)
|md3=[[Inferno Cave]] (B15F-B29F; appears on random floor after accepting challenge letter)
|ranger3=[[Daybreak Ruins]] [[Rand's House]]
|rumble2=Cave: [[World Axle - B2F]] (Post-ending)
}}

====In events====
{{eventAvail/h|type=Fire}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|GSC}}|Gotta Catch 'Em All Station! Entei|English|United States|40[[File:ShinyIIStars.png|Shiny|link=Shiny Pokémon]]|November 22 to 29, 2001; December 7 to 20, 2001; June 22 to 28, 2002; July 5 to 11, 2002; November 15 to 21, 2002|link=List of Gotta Catch 'Em All event Pokémon#Shiny Entei}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|RSE}}{{gameabbrev3|FRLG}}|Journey Across America Entei|English|United States|70|February 25 to July 23, 2006|link=List of Journey Across America event Pokémon distributions#Entei}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|RSE}}{{gameabbrev3|FRLG}}|Top 10 Distribution Entei|English|United Kingdom|70|June 10, 2006; October 14 to November 19, 2006|link=List of English event Pokémon distributions in Generation III#Entei}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|RSE}}{{gameabbrev3|FRLG}}|Top 10 Distribution Entei|Italian|Italy|70|June 23 to 26, 2006|link=List of Italian event Pokémon distributions in Generation III#Entei}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|RSE}}{{gameabbrev3|FRLG}}|Top 10 Distribution Entei|Spanish|Spain|70|June 27 to August 27, 2006|link=List of Spanish event Pokémon distributions in Generation III#Entei}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|RSE}}{{gameabbrev3|FRLG}}|Party of the Decade Entei|English|United States|70|August 8, 2006|link=List of Party of the Decade event Pokémon distributions#Entei}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|RSE}}{{gameabbrev3|FRLG}}|Top 10 Distribution Entei|German|Germany|70|September 24 to November 5, 2006|link=List of German event Pokémon distributions in Generation III#Entei}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|RSE}}{{gameabbrev3|FRLG}}|Top 10 Distribution Entei|French|France|70|September 26, 2006|link=List of French event Pokémon distributions in Generation III#Entei}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|DPP}}{{gameabbrev3|HGSS}}|Crown Entei|Japanese|Japan|30|June 18 to August 31, 2010|link=List of local Japanese event Pokémon distributions in Generation IV#Entei}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|DPP}}{{gameabbrev3|HGSS}}|Shinsegae Entei|Korean|South Korea|30|October 30 to November 28, 2010|link=List of local Korean event Pokémon distributions in Generation IV#Shinsegae Entei}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|DPP}}{{gameabbrev3|HGSS}}|Crown City Entei|Korean|South Korea|30|December 16, 2010 to January 9, 2011|link=List of local Korean event Pokémon distributions in Generation IV#Crown City Entei}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|DPP}}{{gameabbrev3|HGSS}}|GameStop Entei|English|North America|30|January 17 to 23, 2011|link=List of local English event Pokémon distributions in Generation IV#GameStop Entei}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|DPP}}{{gameabbrev3|HGSS}}|Winter 2011 Entei|English|Wi-Fi|30|February 14 to 20, 2011|link=List of Wi-Fi English event Pokémon distributions in Generation IV#Winter 2011 Entei}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|DPP}}{{gameabbrev3|HGSS}}|Winter 2011 Entei|French|Wi-Fi|30|February 14 to 20, 2011|link=List of Wi-Fi French event Pokémon distributions in Generation IV#Winter 2011 Entei}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|DPP}}{{gameabbrev3|HGSS}}|Winter 2011 Entei|German|Wi-Fi|30|February 14 to 20, 2011|link=List of Wi-Fi German event Pokémon distributions in Generation IV#Winter 2011 Entei}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|DPP}}{{gameabbrev3|HGSS}}|Winter 2011 Entei|Italian|Wi-Fi|30|February 14 to 20, 2011|link=List of Wi-Fi Italian event Pokémon distributions in Generation IV#Winter 2011 Entei}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|DPP}}{{gameabbrev3|HGSS}}|Winter 2011 Entei|Spanish|Wi-Fi|30|February 14 to 20, 2011|link=List of Wi-Fi Spanish event Pokémon distributions in Generation IV#Winter 2011 Entei}}
|}

===Held items===
{{HeldItems|type=fire
|event1=Custap Berry|event1type=Berry|event1rar=100
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=fire|
HP= 115 |
Attack=115 |
Defense=85 |
SpAtk= 90 |
SpDef= 75 |
Speed= 100 }}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|type=Fire
|Speed=4
|SpeedMax=4
|Power=5
|PowerMax=5
|Technique=3
|TechniqueMax=3
|Stamina=4
|StaminaMax=4
|Jump=2
|JumpMax=3
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{TypeEffectiveness|
type1=fire|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 200 |
Rock= 200 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 200 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |
Fairy=50|
notes=yes|
flashfire=maybe|
newfire=1}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh|Entei|Fire|Fire|5|2}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Bite|Dark|Physical|60|100|25}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Leer|Normal|Status|—|100|30}}
{{learnlist/level5|8|Ember|Fire|Special|40|100|25||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|15|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|22|Fire Spin|Fire|Special|35|85|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|29|Stomp|Normal|Physical|65|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|36|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|95|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|43|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|50|Fire Fang|Fire|Physical|65|95|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|57|Lava Plume|Fire|Special|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|64|Extrasensory|Psychic|Special|80|100|30}}
{{learnlist/level5|71|Fire Blast|Fire|Special|120|85|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|78|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|85|Eruption|Fire|Special|150|100|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelf|Entei|Fire|Fire|5|2}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh|Entei|Fire|Fire|5|2}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM04|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM05|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM22|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM28|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM30|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM33|Reflect|Psychic|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM35|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|95|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM37|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM38|Fire Blast|Fire|Special|120|85|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM43|Flame Charge|Fire|Physical|50|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM50|Overheat|Fire|Special|140|90|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM59|Incinerate|Fire|Special|30|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM60|Quash|Dark|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM61|Will-O-Wisp|Fire|Status|—|75|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM68|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM70|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM71|Stone Edge|Rock|Physical|100|80|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM78|Bulldoze|Ground|Physical|60|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM94|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM95|Snarl|Dark|Special|55|95|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM01|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM04|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tmf|Entei|Fire|Fire|5|2}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh/6|Entei|Fire|Fire|2}}
{{learnlist/breed4null}}
{{learnlist/breedf/6|Entei|Fire|Fire|2}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh/6|Entei|Fire|Fire|2}}
{{learnlist/tutor5null}}
{{learnlist/tutorf/6|Entei|Fire|Fire|2}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=fire |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=0.1 |
ndex=244|
area=Sacred Field |
P1=Let volcanoes lend me the power to strike down foes! |
P2=This is worrisome... My health has dwindled to half its peak... |
P3=This is it... The power of volcanoes no longer reaches me... |
PL=Ah, level up! May volcanoes empower me! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=yes |
group=Fire |
assist=Fire |
field=Burn |
fieldpower= 3 |
loop= 13 (first battle) 17 (second battle) |
MinEXP=580 |
MaxEXP=600 |
browser=Entei is a [[legendary Pokémon]] that can skillfully summon and control flames. |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=2 |
rate2=6.4 |
iq=D |
rumble2=yes |
rumble2attack=4|
rumble2defense=3|
rumble2speed=4|
Ranger3=yes |
group3=Fire |
assist3=Fire |
field3=None |
field3power=- |
browser3=It launches fireballs and creates large pillars of fire to attack. |
}}

===Evolution===
{{Evobox-1
|type1=Fire
|pictype=art
|no1=244
|name1=Entei
|type1-1=Fire
}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=fire|
gen=2|
gender=none|
ndex=244|
name=Entei|
}}

==Trivia==
* Entei shares the same [[species]] name with {{p|Quilava}} and {{p|Typhlosion}}. They are all known as the Volcano Pokémon.
* Entei's number in the [[National Pokédex]] and the [[List of Pokémon by Johto Pokédex number|Johto Pokédex]] are the same: 244.
* Entei has the highest base HP of all {{type|Fire}} Pokémon.
* In {{v2|Crystal}}, if the player plays Entei's cry in the Pokédex, then switches to Suicune or Raikou before the cry ends, the cry of Suicune or Raikou is distorted.
* An [[Pokémon_Gold_and_Silver_beta#Events|unused event]] present in the data of {{game|Gold and Silver|s}} (but removed from {{v2|Crystal}}) allows for the player to obtain a level 40 Entei.

===Origin===
Entei is based on {{wp|Chinese guardian lions}}, or Lions of Foo, creatures that resemble fully grown male lions. They are often confused with canines and incorrectly called "Foo Dogs" by Westerners. Their original significance was serving as guardians (like gargoyles upon churches) at Buddhist temples. The image of a ferocious beast would scare intruders away. This correlates with Entei being seen as a guardian in the third movie, protecting Molly and her allies.

Like a real lion, Entei boasts a regal mane, long retractable claws, and a strong, bulky, yet agile body. Its face is short and bears resemblance to a lion's skull— short and wedged, but with the unique flatness that ShiShi statues also bore. The yellow design on its head could be interpreted as a stylized crown or a Kabuto helmet. In China, the lion is regarded as a symbol of power and strength. Lions are also popularly known as symbols of fire. However, Entei also resembles large short-muzzled {{wp|dog}}s, such as a {{wp|mastiff}}. Entei's brown shaggy fur and white paws and muzzle are similar to a {{wp|St. Bernard}}, a large dog known for its strength. Its lion-like appearance, mask-like face, and masses of fur make it look like the Balinese lion spirit {{wp|Barong (mythology)|Barong}}, a guardian spirit who kills the wicked witch {{wp|Rangda}} in order to maintain the balance of good and evil.

Entei's roar is known throughout the Pokémon world as a sign of a new volcano erupting, and a new Entei being born. Entei may also have some inspiration from the {{wp|Aterui}}, the chief of the Emishi, who was later labeled as a demon called 'Aka-gashira' (Red-Head). It also has the appearance of a {{wp|volcano}}, its head is volcano-shaped and has a bright yellow eruption-flame on the top, and the red {{wp|magma}} is seen on the side of its face, it has volcanic smoke leaving from the back and has two spiky mountains on the back.

====Name origin====
Entei may be a combination of 炎天 ''enten'' (blazing heat) or 炎 ''en'' (flame, an alternate reading of ''honō'') and 皇帝 ''kōtei'' (emperor). It can be written in kanji as 炎帝 (identical to the Chinese {{wp|Yan Emperor|Yándì}}).

==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=fire|type2=fire
|ja= エンテイ ''Entei''|jameaning=From {{tt|炎帝 ''entei''|flame emperor}}, {{tt|炎 ''en''|flam}}, {{tt|炎天 ''enten''|blazing heat}}, and {{tt|皇帝 ''kōtei''|emperor}}
|fr=Entei|frmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|es=Entei|esmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|de=Entei|demeaning=Same as Japanese name
|it=Entei|itmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|ko=앤테이 ''Entei''|komeaning=Transliteration of its Japanese name
|zh_cmn=炎帝 ''Yándì''|zh_cmnmeaning=From {{tt|炎帝 ''Entei''|flame emperor}}. Also a reference to the ancient Chinese emperor, {{wp|Yandi}}.
}}
 

==Related articles==
* [[Entei (M03)]]
* [[Legendary beasts (M13)]]
* [[Legendary beasts]]

==External links==
*{{wp|Entei|Article on Wikipedia}}

==Notes==
{{Legendary Pokémon}}
{{Smash Bros.}}
{{PokémonPrevNextFoot | prev=Raikou | next=Suicune|type=fire|| prevnum=243| nextnum=245}}
{{-}}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}

[[Category:Shadow Pokémon in Pokémon Colosseum]]
[[Category:Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Legendary trio Pokémon]]
[[Category:Legendary Pokémon obtainable before the Elite Four]]
[[Category:Kanto legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Johto legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Orre legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Roaming Pokémon]]

[[de:Entei]]
[[es:Entei]]
[[fr:Entei]]
[[it:Entei]]
[[ja:エンテイ]]
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Pokémon Bank

2014-02-13T12:48:47Z

Shepeedy: /* Pokémon Storage */

{{NintendoService
|name=Pokémon Bank
|logo=[[File:Pokémon Bank logo.png|150px]]
|caption=The logo of Pokémon Bank.
|provider=[[Nintendo]]
|launched={{tt|December 25, 2013|initial launch}}, {{tt|January 22, 2014|second launch}}<ref name=Nintendo of America Twitter>[https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/425815499956445184]</ref> (Japan<ref name=pokemoncojp>[http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/xy/system/06.html Pokémon.co.jp]</ref>, Korea<ref>[http://www.nintendo.co.kr/PR/press_list.php?cPage1=1&cPage2=1&idx=100&press_div=P 포켓몬 뱅크 Pokémon Bank] (Korean - Korea)</ref>, Taiwan<ref>[http://www.nintendo.tw/pressrelease/3ds_20131004xy_12.htm 任天堂溥天股份有限公司] (Traditional Chinese - Taiwan)</ref> and Hong Kong<ref>[http://www.nintendo.com.hk/pressrelease/3ds_20131004xy_12.htm 任天堂(香港)有限公司網站] (Traditional Chinese - Hong Kong)</ref>)

{{DL|Pokémon Bank|Server issues|Planned launches}} on December 27, 2013 (The Americas<ref>[https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/386183184398168064 Nintendo of America's Twitter] (English - United States)</ref><ref>[http://www.pokemonxy.com/es-la/strategy/ Banco de Pokémon] (Spanish - Latin America)</ref> and Europe<ref>[http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-gb/strategy/ Pokémon Bank] (English - Great Britain)</ref><ref>[http://www.pokemonxy.com/es-es/strategy/ Banco de Pokémon] (Spanish - Spain)</ref><ref>[http://www.pokemonxy.com/it-it/strategy/ Banca Pokémon] (Italian - Italy)</ref><ref>[http://www.pokemonxy.com/fr-fr/strategy/ Banque Pokémon] (French - France)</ref><ref>[http://www.pokemonxy.com/de-de/strategy/ Pokémon Bank] (German - Germany)</ref>) and December 28, 2013 (Australia<ref>[http://www.nintendo.com.au/index.php?action=news&nid=3099&pageID=6 Nintendo Australia's website] (English - Australia)</ref> and New Zealand)

February 4, 2014 (Europe, Australia, New Zealand)

February 5, 2014 (The Americas)

|serviceprovided=Online Pokémon storage
|accessableby=[[Nintendo 3DS]] ([[Nintendo 3DS XL|XL]], [[Nintendo 2DS|2DS]])
|externallink=http://www.pokemonbank.com/en-us/ (English)
}}
{{bulbanews|game}}
The '''Pokémon Bank''' (Japanese: '''ポケモンバンク''' ''Pokémon Bank'') is a downloadable online application for the [[Nintendo 3DS]] that is available for the {{wp|Nintendo eShop}}. It serves as a complement to [[Pokémon X and Y]] and the [[Pokémon Storage System]].

Due to server expenses, use of the software requires the payment of an annual fee. This fee will be ¥500 in Japan, $4.99 in {{pmin|the United States}} and {{pmin|Canada}}, £4.49 in {{pmin|the United Kingdom}}, €4.99 in Europe, $6.50 in {{pmin|Australia}}, $8.50 in {{pmin|New Zealand}}, ₩5000 in {{pmin|South Korea}}, $150 in {{pmin|Greater China|Taiwan}} and $40 in {{pmin|Greater China|Hong Kong}}. A free 30-day trial was offered and could be instated until January 31, 2014 before the service was postponed due to server issues.<ref name=pokemoncojp/> An Internet connection is required to download and use the service.

==Features==
===Pokémon Storage===
[[File:XY Prerelease Pokémon Bank box.png|thumb|Pokémon Bank being used in a copy of Pokémon X]]
The main feature of Pokémon Bank is the possibility of [[player]]s depositing up to 3000 Pokémon from the games in an online cloud. The referred cloud will work as a [[PC]], and will have 100 Boxes capable of carrying, like in a normal PC, 30 Pokémon each. Boxes can also be categorized into groups (with a maximum of 10 groups), and the player can customize the name of each group. The service features extensive search options and filters, allowing the player to locate deposited Pokémon. Pokémon from Generation V can be transferred to the service individually, or entire Boxes can be transferred at once.

[[Brigette]] (the host of [[Pokémon Box Ruby and Sapphire]]) maintains the Pokémon Bank service. She gives the player 100 [[Poké Mile]]s when Pokémon are deposited for the first time into Pokémon Bank, although the player can also opt to receive rewards in the form of [[Battle Point]]s instead. Additional Poké Miles are awarded for the length of time that a given Pokémon is deposited into Pokémon Bank. The amount of Poké Miles earned by the player increases if more Pokémon are deposited into Pokémon Bank. Both Poké Miles and Battle Points are sent to Pokémon X and Y using the in-game option called Pokémon Link.

Pokémon that are holding [[Berries]] or other [[item]]s cannot be deposited into Pokémon Bank, and it is advised to return any held items to the [[Bag]] prior to depositing Pokémon. If the player attempts to deposit Pokémon that are holding Berries or other items, the items will be removed and sent to the player's Bag. Items held by Pokémon being deposited into Pokémon Bank will disappear if the player's bag is full.

[[:Category:Pokémon that evolve through trading|Pokémon that]] [[evolution|evolve]] via [[trade|trading]] will not evolve if sent to Pokémon Bank.

Any number of physical or digital copies of Pokémon X and Y can be used in conjunction with the service. Pokémon Bank can be utilized at any point after the player obtains the [[Pokédex]] in Pokémon X and Y. The service cannot be used if a new game in Pokémon X and Y has not been started. If a player owns multiple copies of Pokémon Bank on different Nintendo 3DS systems, Pokémon cannot be transferred between those Pokémon Banks.

Pokémon Bank accounts are tied to the user's [[Nintendo Network]] ID, which cannot be used across multiple Nintendo 3DS systems. While Pokémon X and Y are region-locked themselves, Pokémon Bank can still communicate with an X or Y game card of any region when it is inserted into a Nintendo 3DS, although Nintendo does not make any guarantee for the performance of software or systems in the Nintendo 3DS family when used outside of their intended regions.

When Pokémon Bank (along with Poké Transporter) is downloaded, any restrictions on the Nintendo 3DS system for Shopping Services need to be removed within the Parental Controls before Pokémon Bank can be utilized. Any restrictions set in place pertaining to usage of the Nintendo 3DS's Internet browser also require removal each time that the Pokémon Bank software is used.

After the expiration of the aforementioned trial period, Pokémon in Pokémon Bank can still be withdrawn (without an annual pass) for a set period of time before the Pokémon are lost.

===Poké Transporter===
{{main|Poké Transporter}}
After the download of Pokémon Bank, it is possible to use a separately downloaded application, the Poké Transporter, to transfer Pokémon from [[Generation V]] games to the cloud. After this, it is possible to complete such migration by simply downloading them to the [[Generation VI]] game.

Anything that can be transferred from older generation games to Generation V is transportable. That means Pokémon as far back as [[Generation III]] can be transferred—those from Generation III have to be transferred to [[Generation IV]] using the [[Pal Park]] and then to Generation V at the [[Poké Transfer Lab]]. From there, they can be sent to the Bank.

Additionally, the migration of certain Pokémon from Generation V via Pokémon Bank will trigger the availability of certain items within Pokémon X and Y. The transfer of {{p|Kyurem}} and {{p|Genesect}} allows the [[DNA Splicers]] and the [[Drives]], respectively, to become available within X and Y.

===Event Pokémon===
{{bulbanews|Nintendo Direct announces Celebi distribution}}
{{main|List of game-based Pokémon distributions in Generation VI}}
If the player accesses Pokémon Bank before September 30, 2014, they can receive a special event {{p|Celebi}}. This particular Celebi knows {{m|Hold Back}}, an event-exclusive move similar to {{m|False Swipe}}.
{{G6event|
ball=Luxury|
pokemon=Celebi|
nick=Celebi|
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==Server issues==
{{bulbanews|Pokémon Bank unavailable until further notice for Asia, Europe, Australia, Americas}}
On December 25, 2013, Pokémon Bank and the Poké Transporter were both released in Japan, South Korea, and other Asian territories. Due to high volumes of traffic throughout the Nintendo Network caused by a large volume of [[Nintendo Network]] IDs being created,<ref>[https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/statuses/415959724043956224 Twitter / NintendoAmerica]</ref> the [[Nintendo eShop]] was temporarily inaccessible.<ref>[http://kotaku.com/nintendo-online-services-broken-now-continuing-christm-1489822952 Kotaku - Nintendo's Online Services Broken Now, Continuing Christmas Malfunctions]</ref><ref>[http://www.nintendo.co.jp/support/information/2013/1226.html Nintendo of Japan ~ "ニンテンドーeショップの接続障害に伴う『ポケモンバンク』の一時配信停止のお知らせ"]</ref> When the Nintendo eShop was accessible again on December 29, 2013,<ref>[https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/417346368340885504 Twitter / NintendoAmerica]</ref> Pokémon Bank was removed from the Nintendo eShop (although players who had previously downloaded Pokémon Bank could still download Poké Transporter, which can only be downloaded through Pokémon Bank).{{fact}} In addition, the release of Pokémon Bank and Poké Transporter for the Americas, Europe, Australia, and New Zealand—originally set to be December 27, 2013—was delayed due to the aforementioned issues.<ref>[http://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2393/p/430 Pokémon Bank Announcement | Nintendo 3DS Family | Nintendo Support]</ref>{{dead link}}

On January 21, 2014, Pokémon Bank was re-released in Japan, South Korea, and other Asian territories.<ref>[https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/425815499956445184 Twitter / NintendoAmerica]</ref>

The service was launched in Europe, Australia, and New Zealand on February 4, 2014. <ref>https://twitter.com/NintendoEurope/status/430673592527769600</ref>

The service was launched in the Americas on February 5, 2014.

==Gallery==
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CoroCoro_January_2014_p63.jpg|Interacting with [[Brigette]] in Pokémon Bank
</gallery>

==Official trailers==
===English===
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==In other languages==
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==External links==
* [http://www.pokemonbank.com Pokémon Bank website]

==References==
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{{Spin-off series}} 
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Bulbapedia talk:Editor's Hub/Archive 1

2014-02-11T21:18:31Z

Shepeedy: /* Regarding Volcanion, Hoopa and Diancie */

== Protection ==
Shouldn't this be protected to prevent vandelism much like the main page is? [[User:Truthseeker4449|Truth]][[User talk:Truthseeker4449|seeker]][[Special:Contributions/Truthseeker4449|4449]] 13:04, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
: It is protected.--[[User:Supermon|Supermon]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
::I know it is now, it wasn't when I post the message above. And I stayed up to date on status of the page and thus noticed when it was semi-protected then fully protected. [[User:Truthseeker4449|Truth]][[User talk:Truthseeker4449|seeker]][[Special:Contributions/Truthseeker4449|4449]] 20:30, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
== Tentacool ==

I need help changing one of the type effects of Tentacool over to somewhere else. I am a new member so I don't know how to do all these changes so if someone can help that will be nice.

what needs to be changed is electric needs to be taken out of tentacool's weakness column and put in the regular effect column. if someone can tell me how to do that then that will be nice thanks again.
([[User:Roadmaster84|Roadmaster84]] 23:29, 21 December 2011 (UTC))
:Tentacool is a {{t|Water}}/{{t|Poison}} Pokémon. Water is weak to Electric and Poison is neutral to Electric. Therefore Tentacool is weak to Electric moves and the existing chart is correct. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 23:38, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

== Page Like "Incomplete" for "Bad Picture"? ==

Is there a section for Bad Picture just like there is for [[:Category:Articles needing more information|Incomplete]]? I can't find it anywhere! --[[User:Wildgoosespeeder|Wildgoosespeeder]] 00:19, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
:[[:Category:Articles needing better pictures|You mean like this?]] [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 00:23, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
::Cool! Where did you find that link? If it is really hidden and out of the way, I think it should be in the box with the Machop. --[[User:Wildgoosespeeder|Wildgoosespeeder]] 00:39, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
:::I don't know what machop you're talking about, but it's in the categories on any page that has that template. In particular, I found it [[Brawly|here]]. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 00:56, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
::::The Machop on the Editor's Hub page! There are three links to get you started improving articles. --[[User:Wildgoosespeeder|Wildgoosespeeder]] 01:06, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
:::::Oh, haha, I see. I rarely look at the Editor Hub. Alright, I added it. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 01:11, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

== Recycle restoring Air Balloon ==

The page [[Recycle]] doesn't mention anything about being able/unable to restore a popped Air Balloon. Shouldn't that be changed? [[User:PC-Reviver|PC-Reviver]] 15:59, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
:No, because a popped Air Balloon is an item that's been consumed, and thus falls under the category of consumed items. - ''signed comment from [[User:BisumitoIsSnazzy|q~Bisumito is Snazzy~p]] ([[User talk:BisumitoIsSnazzy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/BisumitoIsSnazzy|contribs]])'' 20:31, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

== how do i get permission to make pages ==

hi im new and wondering how to make pages [[User:Xspeedx|Xspeedx]] 18:05, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
:You need to make a (top secret) number of edits to the mainspace (i.e. articles) and have had your account for a short (also top secret) length of time. This is done so that you get a chance +to learn our rules and styles before trying to build a page on your own. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:54, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

== I need advice ==

Hi, I saw the Anville town Article and saw the section at the top said you can get to anvillle town using the Anville town line in the battle subway. I was thinking that changing it to the Brown line because it's colour is brown? I'm not sure if i should but please tell me if i'm right! [[User:SkyAltaria1|SkyAltaria1]] 14:16, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
:Perhaps it would be more precise to change it the brown line instead of just saying "Anville line". I don't think there's any harm in changing it. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 15:38, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Ok Thanks :) [[User:SkyAltaria1|SkyAltaria1]] 06:49, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I need advice too. I know of a glitch that is fairly well-known, yet this wiki doesn't have a page for it. I notice that most glitches have their own pages as well as appearing on the List of Glitches section of the Glitch page. However, I don't have permission to make pages yet. Should I just add this glitch to the List of Glitches and hope someone else makes a page for it, or should I request that a page for it be made, or what? [[User:HappyGasGames|HappyGasGames]] ([[User talk:HappyGasGames|talk]]) 17:06, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
:If you have a question on a topic that's glitch related, you should talk to {{u|SnorlaxMonster}}. He's the leader of Project:Glichdex and would probably have the answers you're looking for. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 17:10, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

== Romanization ==
I'm not entirely fond of how Bulbapedia handles their Japanese names for things, primarily how we use the trademarked name and completely ignore the rōmaji. Yes, I think it's important to have the trademarked Japanese names, but I think it's also equally important to have the bare rōmaji, too. I think it would be effective to use the <nowiki>{{tt}}</nowiki> template around the Japanese text itself to show the rōmaji alongside the trademarked name. For example, it would look like this: {{tt|ラルトス|Rarutosu}} ''Ralts'' or {{tt|カメックス|Kamekkusu}} ''Kamex''. Would anyone object to me going around and doing this? [[User:Mitsuru|Mitsuru]] 23:13, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
:[[List of Japanese Pokémon names]]. This does that. I personally do not like the idea for esthetic reasons. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:19, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
::Alright, but it applies to more than just Pokémon themselves. Many pages unrelated to Pokémon suffer the same ([[Snag Machine]], [[N]], etc.). And I disagree; I don't think it's too much of an eyesore, and it's hardly invasive. [[User:Mitsuru|Mitsuru]] 03:06, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

== BW2 Soundtrack ==
Do we need a page for the BW2 soundtrack "Pokémon Black 2 & White 2 Super Music Complete"? I have the CD here and I figured I might as well contribute. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 20:00, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Nobody? No. Okay, you can remove it if you don't like it. It was fun to do anyway. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 00:02, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

== Bulbawiki Festive Frontier? ==

"As outlined on Bulbagarden forums, Bulbapedia is done hosting its second annual Christmas Improvement Drive. The Festive Frontier challenge is now over."

Wasn't the Festive Frontier challenge from last year or was it a few months ago? (Just curious since it is currently up on the page.) --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 02:34, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

== Update? ==

Staff of PokéPark 2 is already made. Don't you think we should take it off the Needed articles section? [[User:YoshisWorld|'''☆ヨッシ''']] [[Special:Contributions/YoshisWorld|'''ー''']] [[User talk:YoshisWorld|'''の世界☆''']] 00:17, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

== Edits ==

How many Edits do I need to do/have to add New Articles?
[[User:Lskitto|Lskitto]] ([[User talk:Lskitto|talk]]) 04:52, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
:It's an secret amount of edits and a secret amount of time that is only known to staff. Keep editing, and you'll eventually be able to start articles. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 04:54, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

== Screenshots ==
How do you get a screenshot of an entire city/route/area in the video games?
[[User:152105|152105]] ([[User talk:152105|talk]]) 20:14, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

== Linking Pages ==

When I put in a link to another page it always comes out as Template:whatever-the-article-name-is and I have no idea why.[[User:Uglycats101|Uglycats101]] ([[User talk:Uglycats101|talk]]) 13:26, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
:<nowiki>It would be because you are using {{ and }} to link instead of [[ and ]] one links to templates the other links to pages.</nowiki> --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 13:41, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
oh thanks so much, it works!!! but how do I get those brackets you used they're not on my keyboard or in the character palette at the bottom of the screen I'm currently using copy and paste to get them in. [[User:Uglycats101|Uglycats101]] ([[User talk:Uglycats101|talk]]) 13:30, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
:What keyboard layout do you have? It would be incredibly unusual for any keyboard to not have those brackets. On a standard QWERTY keyboard, they're immediately to the right of the P key, such that typing this whole row yields <code>QWERTYUIOP[]\</code>. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 17:14, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

== Kato and Kiko ==

I need help adding a trivia sentence for Kato and Kiko. I don't want to try and add a new trivia sentence and end up messing up the whole thing for their trivia. Either someone help me or ill just tell you what I want to post so you can do it yourselves:

For Kato's trivia: Kato's hairstyle resembles the horn of his pokemon, Heracross.

For Kiko's trivia: Kiko's hairstyle resembles the wings of her pokemon, Beautifly.

If you can tell me how to post it that would be excellent or if you want to post it yourself that would be just as excellent. If you end up doing it yourself don't add both on one just kato's on Kato's page and Kiko's on Kiko@'s page. I don't mind either way as long as it manages to get posted and i have some credit for it. Thanks. ([[User:RioluMaster1123|RioluMaster1123]] ([[User talk:RioluMaster1123|talk]]) 01:01, 8 June 2013 (UTC))

==Message of the Day==

There are no more featured MotDs. That part of this page should be replaced. [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]] [[User talk:Spyspotter|says…]] Edit the mainspace, [[Special:ListUsers|kids!]] 03:08, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
:I don't see any "Message of the Day" on this page. Unless you mean the Message from the Editor, which should stay and will be updated when there is new information to put there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:28, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
::I mean the featured content. - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Spyspotter}} ([[User talk:Spyspotter|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spyspotter|contribs]]) '' 01:00, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

== Protection of Pokemon X/Y related articles ==

I've been noticing that the admins on this site have been protecting almost all Pokemon X/Y related articles and not allowing normal users due to "Speculation Crackdown" till after October 12. It's kind of harsh because not all normal users registered users on this site are speculators. Some really want to help this site gather information from official sources as the game's release draws closer. [[User:Blueknightex|Blueknightex]] ([[User talk:Blueknightex|talk]]) 09:41, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
:While not all registered users will add speculation, it only takes a handful of users to wreak massive havoc across a wide spread of pages. A lot of XY articles were locked as a reaction to speculation, not as a proactive measure. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:48, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
:Speculation would not be good for bulbapedia's reputation, and I'm sure no-one wants that! Like [[User:Blueknightex|Blueknightex]] said, it only takes a handful of people to wreak havoc with speculations and rumours. --[[User:KyuremDialga101|KyuremDialga101]] ([[User talk:KyuremDialga101|talk]]) 01:11, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

== Article on Ash's Charizard does not need editing ==

I noticed that the article [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ash's_Charizard|Ash's Charizard] was in need of an English voice actor. However, after some heavy research, I found out that the voice actor is the same as the Japanese one. What do I do now? Please help, I just joined!
--[[User:KyuremDialga101|KyuremDialga101]] ([[User talk:KyuremDialga101|talk]]) 01:08, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
:It could refer to Charmander and Charmeleon. They showed up in flashbacks during BW and, while I didn't watch the episode myself, it could be they spoke during the flashbacks, and had different voice actors. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 01:11, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
::Hi. The voice actor data for Charmander and Charmeleon was present, so it was not referring to them. Currently, the page is showing that for Charizard, the Japanese voice actor did both the Japanese AND the English roles. However, Bulbapedia has named the data as incomplete. Is there anyone I could take my concerns to? Thanks. --[[User:KyuremDialga101|KyuremDialga101]] ([[User talk:KyuremDialga101|talk]]) 01:13, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
:::Charmander and Charmeleon's voice actors on the article are the 4kids actors. During the Advanced Generation the dub was passed on to DuArt. For example, look at [[Ash's Bulbasaur]]. See how it says Tara Jayne for EP010-AG133 then Michele Knotz as current? That's because of the voice actor swap. Since Charmander and Charmeleon appeared in the Best Wishes series, they would have been given new voice actors. Those are the ones that are missing. If you want, you can leave a message on {{u|Kenji-girl}}'s talk page. She's been busy lately so it might take her a while to respond. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 01:26, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

== Regarding Volcanion, Hoopa and Diancie ==

Should we create pages for them yet? We know they are real, and this sort of thing has been done with other event pokemon like Arceus and Genesect. I have pictures which have been confirmed real that we could put in the articles too.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 01:50, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:We do not know they are real. All we know is that other fansites have circulated rumors about them. We do not take info from other fansites. We are an encyclopedia, not a rumor mill. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 02:16, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
::I think we know that they're names of potential Pokémon, due to GTS stuff, but that doesn't seem like enough for a page. --[[User:WyndFox|Wynd]] [[User talk:WyndFox|Fox]] 02:36, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:::You can find them in game, GBA Temps has a wild modifier code for them. And the fact that there is already in-game proof (the GTS tests) kind of confirms it's all real. Remember that stuff had been added about previous event 'mons without knowing much about them too.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 05:03, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
::::For those of us who don't know, can you explain what GBA Temps is? And how wild modifier codes work? --[[User:WyndFox|Wynd]] [[User talk:WyndFox|Fox]] 05:27, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::GBA Temps is a website that I imagine distributes cheat codes. Wild modifiers work by simply changeing the pokemon that normally appear in an area to the one specified in the cheat code, as it temporarily alters the game's code. Say, if you put an identifier of 001 in there you would find bulbasaur for example. EDIT: Wait, wrong place, it ws a different guy who made the modifier, GBA Temps made a .pkx editor that could also be used to get the pokemon in game, if anyone wants to test and see, I have a link [http://gbatemp.net/threads/pkx-editor-by-codemonkey85.356901]/--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 05:40, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::Serebii has just confirmed the existence of Diancie, Hoopa, Volcanion, Mega [[Latios]] and Mega [[Latias]] as possible event Pokémon with pictures associated. --[[User:Wolfy Harfleur 76700|Wolfy Harfleur 76700]] ([[User talk:Wolfy Harfleur 76700|talk]]) 10:35, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Joe literally wrote in his news story on serebii "Do note, these are still unconfirmed." ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 14:41, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
{{indent}}
It seems people have forgotten that this site is, above all else, an ''encyclopedia''. I've seen some wikis have speculative articles and then have some tag at the top of the page saying "This is unconfirmed, yada yada yada." That's extremely unprofessional, and it makes way for a truck load of spam articles under the guise of being "unconfirmed". A good wiki, Bulbapedia included, uses the agenda of official confirmation being ''absolutely crucial''. As much as it may seem, at the current moment, that these three Pokémon and the Mega-Eons are as real as real can get, leaked information is the exact opposite of confirmed information. Even Serebii's no fool. He's not going around asserting that everything he finds is fact. As Nate even said, the words "Do note, these are still unconfirmed" are used on his site. Besides, it's god-honestly better to ''not'' have the information until it's confirmed than to have guesswork that turns out to be wrong. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 15:29, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:correct me if I am wrong but didn't bulbapedia treat meloetta, keldeo and genesect as real pokemon before they were officialy confirmed? It doesn't seem any different here. [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 15:46, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
::The problem is that we could still access the game data to be able to confirm it. We cannot access the game data this time around, which is why we still do not have a lot of images of the Generation VI stuff. Unless we can find data on the PGL to confirm this, we have to treat it like false info until we have proof it is true. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 17:15, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:::In which you can use the hacks to get the pokemon to put into the PGL to prove they're real.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 21:28, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
::::You cannot put Pokémon into the PGL, that was only Dream World, which only works for Generation V games. Not to mention that the Pokémon shown could be dummied out Pokémon left on the cart. We will need to wait for proof, whether it is from files on the PGL or some info from Nintendo. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 21:44, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::How would one get this info from the PGL? Like people got all the DW art and stuff didn't they? And also I'm quite sure they wouldn't leave dummy 'mons in the game, they would have been replaced with Bad Eggs.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 21:48, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::Files. Every website that uses pictures needs to reference the picture in the website. Thus, most pictures are hosted in the same server as the website itself. Basically, if the images are added to the server, we just need to peek into the server's files and see what is there, which is how we got the other files. As for the other part, why are there two Vivillon patterns in the game that no one has obtained? We don't know what GF has done or will do with them. They could be available or they could be dummied out, though they still seem to exist for the moment as dummied out data. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 23:44, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Hmmm, perhaps they don't plan on adding the picture files until they're officially revealed. After all, I don't think they added the picture files into the PGL for Keldeo, Meloetta and Genesect until they were revealed, did they?--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 00:49, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
{{indent}} Back on the "dummied out content" thing, yes, there's plenty of dummied out content left in the game's code among all of the older games. Bulbapedia has pages specifically on said content. I can't say I'd be too surprised to find out that some species ended up in this genre. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 02:31, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
:On the topic of PGL files, there are two placeholder Vivillon patterns (which are the same as the default pattern), indicating that there are likely to be 2 more Vivillon patterns (matching the leak). The Mythical Pokémon do not appear on the PGL currently. Mega Evolutions all have placeholder artworks (it's just a copy of the Pokémon's standard artwork), and currently there is no placeholder for Mega Latios or Latias. Chances are things that aren't currently there will be added at a later time. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:10, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
While the chance is there that they could be fake ([http://pokejungle.net/2013/10/31/rumour-legends-leaked-by-hacking/ this page even says so]), the fact that this person was able to cause the three legendaries to appear in one of the early Routes pretty much confirms they are real. If those are Photoshopped images, they're pretty good. Additionally, seeing them on the GTS and not filtered out as gibberish also confirms that they are real. The person writing the linked blog, as well, noted that he tried to encounter Pokémon #722 (meaning these came from 719-721) and the result was a Bad Egg, meaning there is nothing programmed after 721 and that is the end of the current Pokédex.

We ought to acknowledge this information. People have tested and confirmed that the data is there. Serebii even briefly had pages for the trio (since taken down, someone put up a screenshot of the three screengrabs as an image). Nintendo just hasn't released the info because they want to leave something for future announcements and events. Since they're already in the game, other than patching to get rid of them, Nintendo can't do much now to change it (and then what will they use for later games, and who says we have to use the patch? I mean, they can't get rid of this data in the games now!). Therefore, they exist, they just haven't been announced. Pages ought to be created even if they are tagged as unconfirmed Pokémon. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 18:32, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
:If you had been paying attention, no one is immediately saying they're faked or photoshopped. But what we ''are'' saying is they may very well be dummied out content. And again, as far as a wiki is concerned, if information is not 100% confirmed, it might as well be 100% fake. Bulbapedia has a reputation to keep, and if things that end up being utter bull get articles only for us to find out the truth later, how will that make the site look? And even if they are really there, they ''can'' indeed be patched out. That's what patches do. If someone who got, say, one of these "Volcanions" ends up losing data and having their save corrupted because it was patched out, well then that's their own fault. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 19:03, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
::Yes, I'm paying attention. Here's the thing: if they are dummied out, that makes them notable just for that and they deserve to be recognized as deleted Pokémon. Except perhaps for MissingNo, this would be the first case of this, no? That's notable, and what would be their page as real Pokémon can then be redirected to an article on the deleted trio. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 20:04, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
:::Just thought I'd also mention that if they were dummied out, it is highly unlikely they'd leave all the following data in and have it make sense- Pokedex Entries, Typing, Movesets, Graphical Data, Base Stats. Just a thought--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 01:56, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
::::Exactly. There are way too many dots to connect here that there's no way this is fake. I'm 99% certain at this point that all three of them are the Keldeo, Meloetta, and Genesect of this generation and we will have all three released by the time of either Hoenn remakes or Z (whichever is first). I'd gamble on it if I could. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 02:18, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::(edit conflict) We don't know any of that (except the graphical data) even exists. All we have are a single screenshot of each of them. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 02:19, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::What do you want him to do, take a video of him encountering and catching them, then showing off the Dex entries? [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 02:45, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
There's another test we could use to see if this is genuine, the guy who found them also managed to get screenshots of pixie plate arceus and Mew in the game, if the sprites match when Transporter is out we'll know that he truly hacked the game. pics on this twitter: https://twitter.com/PokmonGlobalNew [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] ([[User talk:Jmvb|talk]]) 11:34, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
::Replying to 0danmaster0 here, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Genesect_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&oldid=1188433 linked here] is the original draft of [[Genesect (Pokémon)]] from September 18, 2010. It got several more edits that day and the following days. Do we have information on exactly when Nintendo announced Genesect? I know it wasn't released until B2/W2 were released; that very day, in fact. That's two years. I doubt they announced it two years in advance.

::My point? We were posting an article about Genesect two years ahead of time. What would be different about an article on Hoopa since it has been found in the game? [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 16:10, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
:::Yes, but we had proof Genesect existed because we could hack the DS and get the data out. We still don't know these three aren't a hoax, because we still don't fully know how to hack the 3DS. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:19, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
::::Evidently this guy does know how to hack the 3DS. That's the same thing. I could have said Genesect was a hoax back then myself because I am not a hacker. Same argument. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 16:38, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::The difference is that when lots of people could do it, it was clearer that Keldeo, Meloetta and Genesect were real because so many independent sources were backing each other up. Currently, (as far as I know,) there's only this one guy "proving" these three, so we have no idea whether he's a good hacker or just a good counterfeiter. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:44, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::Pumpkinking has hit the nail on the head. The bottom line is if we can't replicate the results to verify, a random on the internet is nothing more than a dubious source. We can't repeat or verify those results. Therefore, they get no article. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 19:21, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::I still point out the fact that the names appear on the GTS. That validates them as real Pokémon. I will admit that the images could still be shopped (some are pretty good even of those), but the Pokémon names are real. If Nintendo patches them out after this independent crusade (for lack of a better word), then the article could be about what the names of the Pokémon would have been and were changed due to a hacker. A hacker causing Nintendo to change plans is notable. So one way or another, whether now or after news comes of a new patch that removes the names (impossible on the GTS though unless they close it briefly and remove all requests), an article will exist somewhere on either the Pokémon or the schematics surrounding them being changed (even when the trio does eventually come out with similar types and the would-be names are matched up). I still see no problem with very brief and locked pieces on the three and what has been discovered, with a byline at the top saying the information is unconfirmed. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 19:26, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::::Just thought I'd mention that we have Diancie's dex entry too. Kotaku said it, not sure if it's a reliable source though.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 00:52, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::''The bottom line is if we can't replicate the results to verify, a random on the internet is nothing more than a dubious source.''
:::::::::That's funny. Someone earlier said that the reason the article doesn't exist is because Nintendo hasn't announced it. However, Nintendo hadn't announced Keldeo, Meloetta, or Genesect and those articles came up with "multiple independent sources".
:::::::::We now have "multiple independent sources" confirming these three new Pokémon showing up as valid in the GTS by people requesting other than themselves, which is backed up by hacked data confirming their existance and with images (though again, I prefer video). Sersbii had pages up brifly, since taken down. This is exactly the scenario we had with the Unova group, just not as many sources. Yet now the rules are different because it's more convenient to wait for Nintendo to announce it before putting pages up.
:::::::::We need to stop changing the rules in convenient ways for a situation and just report what people have found out already. Wikipedia uses references as a method of sourcing ANY information. We have several sources, even if one main one is a blog and others are forums. That's enough for me for a video game (we're not sourcing nuclear fission or anything like that). If it turns out not to be real, we correct it. That's what a Wiki does. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 03:47, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::You're wrong with the part about "exactly the same scenario". As already said above, the key difference is being able to replicate the results; that is, unlike with DS games, the encryption for 3DS games is still yet to be broken so data mining is outright impossible. You can't make a ROM dump out of your X or Y game card, break in, and check the Pokémon specification data structures yourself. Instead, for anything other than the names, you need to rely on and believe the authenticity of the few still images by one community member. For the same reasons, we're still missing various things like complete movesets for many Pokémon, all up-to-date data for yet unavailable Gen I to Gen V Pokémon, and so on.
::::::::::Don't get me wrong, I personally don't have any objections for adding the trio into the wiki, but it seems that for now the only thing that can be proven with certainty is that the three names exist and are recognized by GTS as valid ones. That doesn't really yield good, comprehensive pages at this moment, so I understand why they're quite unwanted for now. '''Soulweaver''' (U.S.) ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 04:15, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::Perhaps someone should ask smea to supply the necessary information by his twitter account, after all HE is the one with this information. We know the pokemon exist, we don't officially know their appearance until we get solid proof, and everything else falls under the former category. If he could give us a video showing us exactly what he is doing, showing us the dex entries and types ''at least'', we might actually get somewhere. Same could go for the other discoveries too.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 05:22, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::: I have a feeling that they won't since they have apologized for spoiling the Pokémon already. Little hope on that route. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:27, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::: As for the other side of the problem, I am confused now with the issue. We know the Pokémon exist. We have proof that they exist. We can replicate the data, though not in the conventional way. We can even data mine the games to confirm it through a modified 3DS that bypasses the encryption issue, which is currently being done to determine how the game stores the data structure for individual Pokémon. The problem we have is over if the three Pokémon are actual Legendary Pokémon that exist in the game or if these are just dummied out Legendary Pokémon that Nintendo and Game Freak thought would be alright to leave on the cart without removing their existence. We cannot confirm that they are event Pokémon, so we cannot add them as articles at the moment. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:27, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::::I will concede that individual articles would not have a lot of information right now (heck, [[Xerneas (Pokémon)]] and [[Yveltal (Pokémon)]] were once like that even when they were announced). However, even if staunch "it's not official" people around here don't want to allow articles, we do need at least one: an article talking about the three and how they were discovered. I point out once again that the three are not being confirmed, the data is simply being reported on.
:::::::::::::and he apologized for "spoiling the Pokémon"? Some of us want to know everything, spoiler or not. I really want to see a video of these. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 16:22, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:(Resetting indent) What I don't get is why some people seem to be convinced they are dummied out when they are under the same circumstances as last gen's event pokemon. If they were dunnied out, they would leave all that important info in there. {{unsigned|BigBadBatter}}
::Because the data for the two other Vivillion is present in the games, but cannot be access without a modified 3DS. This is similar to past data, like ???-type Arceus. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 23:59, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:::Good point, but remember that was only in there to stop crashes, it was never meant to exist within the "actual" game--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 00:39, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
::::My guess? Those two Vivillon will be in the next games and can be traded into these ones. How? I don't have a guess on that yet, but maybe they are east and west like the Shellos. In that case, west (North America and possibly Europe) would get one, and east (yeah, beyond Europe, Africa included perhaps) would get the other. That would be consistent with the patterns based on your 3DS region bit. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 07:56, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
{{indent}} I think it's about time this topic be left alone and not touched again. ''Multiple'' staff members already said these three aren't getting articles until there is enough evidence to prove that they are absolutely and indisputably real, so let's leave it at that, shall we? [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 16:42, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
:I think the debate is not that they aren't real. It's about whether they should have articles without Nintendo confirmation. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 17:05, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
::Regardless, at least three staff members have all said they are not and have given a multitude of reasons. I don't even see why people are still arguing. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 17:12, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
:::Yeah, let's leave it for now. Apparently the offical facebook page made a random post about carbink, so we may see some interesting stuff...--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 23:00, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
::::The official japanese guide confirmed that there are 721 Pokémon[http://i.imgur.com/2QH3kPl.png] [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 12:36, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::Now this is interesting. More confirmation much?--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 22:47, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::Here's the thing. We ''do not'' report on or make articles for information that we cannot confirm ourselves. The person who discovered these did so through a method we cannot replicate. There may be three hidden legendaries, but we cannot confirm that these three are them. The difference between these and previous event legends is the fact we could view the game's code and confirm it ''ourselves''. So, to put it bluntly, until these are confirmed by Nintendo or a widespread method to view the game's code is available, these Pokemon will get ''no article''. No amount of arguing is going to change that. This discussion is serving no purpose whatsoever and should be done. If you want to discuss these rumored legendaries, you should take it the forums. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 22:56, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
they are real. no doubt. they are unannounced, there fore un obtainable, there fore unmarked. they WILL be made, and this guy did officialy find volcanion. there was also a leaked article on pokemon.com, quickly removed, for diancle. just make the pages, and delete them if need be. I will be watching for them in the new year, when I expect them to be announced, after torchic. and also, regarding pixie arcius and mew in x/y, they were added in the 1.1 patch which also allowed all pokemon to be added to the dex via pokebank. so In adding the pokebank, 1.1 had more than it seemed. prove me wrong, but I want evidence I am wrong. I know Nintendo, and this is legit. make the pages. I will cover the story. EDIT- while poking on serebii to take notes, I saw that they have a classification. I don't know if I can put them here, but am doing so any ways. :diancie the jewel pokemon, volcanion the steam pokemon, and hoopa the mischief pokemon. have I blown your mind??? proves their real! {{unsigned|Dra9onslayer}}

What height and weight could it be for the three event Pokémon, what body style do they have and what colour category do they have? [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ([[User talk:Cinday123|talk]]) 07:04, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
:Look, let's just leave it for now, as we don't have the tools to hack the game and find out for ourselves. Therefore, we cannot make the pages.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 23:50, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

I know staff members said don't put them up, and I'm not arguing that (that's a good policy, even if we can get into the game). I'm just wondering why people say it isn't the same as before. Because of course Darkrai could have been dummied out back in Gen IV, but now we know it wasn't. Just curious, is all, as that seems to be the big argument (Once again, I agree with the policy of not putting up the page until Gamefreak confirms, because of the risk of it being dummied out. Makes sense) --[[User:Shadowater|Shadowater]] ([[User talk:Shadowater|talk]]) 00:23, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
:The difference is that even if Darkrai, etc had been dummied out, we could hack the game so we still knew all of its data. We can't hack the 3DS, so none of the leaks about these three (except for their names on the GTS) are verifiable. We don't know whether the images floating around are legit or a clever Photoshop; we don't know whether the type combinations are true; we don't even know what order their National Dex numbers are in{{tt|*|and sources conflict on this last point — a pretty good sign that at least some of the other information is unreliable as well}}. There's literally nothing we can say in good conscience except "these are their names," whereas in the past, we could hack the game and reliably report every single piece of data for event-exclusives on the DS and prior systems. (That's my standpoint. I think this is a much more persuasive reason not to acknowledge them yet than the "what if they end up being dummied out" argument.) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 01:40, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
::Mostly quoting myself from above, "We know the Pokémon exist. We have proof that they exist. We can replicate the data, though not in the conventional way. We can even data mine the games to confirm it through a modified 3DS that bypasses the encryption issue, which is currently being done to determine how the game stores the data structure for individual Pokémon. The problem we have is over if the three Pokémon are actual Legendary Pokémon that exist in the game or if these are just dummied out Legendary Pokémon that Nintendo and Game Freak thought would be alright to leave on the cart without removing their existence. We cannot confirm that they are event Pokémon, so we cannot add them as articles at the moment." Remember that there is still data on the game for two more Vivillion forms that the Global Links files confirm. The problem is that this data, while present in the games, cannot be access without a modified 3DS. In Generation IV, we had data for the ???-type Arceus, which was never released for good reasons. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 05:10, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

I figure now is a good time to resurrect this discussion now that [http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/60943/t1957245-hoopa-volcanion-diancies-leaked-stats-abilities-types/ more evidence] has appeared from what appears to be a separate source, corroborating with leaks we've [http://www.pokedit.com/New+Legendaries+Diancie+Volcanion+Hoopa_8016.html already] [http://pokebeach.com/2013/12/information-on-diancie-hoopa-and-volcanion seen]. Dummied out or not, it appears what we've seen before was indeed correct. I also don't know if this was mentioned, but the PokEdit link also seems to have official Sugimori art, the two missing Vivillon patterns, and a model of AZ's Floette. This is getting harder and harder to call fake, if you ask me. [[User:VinLAURiA|VinLAURiA]] ([[User talk:VinLAURiA|talk]]) 18:05, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
:The artwork is fake, in case you were wondering: [http://xous54.deviantart.com/art/Diancie-410875572 Diancie], [http://xous54.deviantart.com/art/Volcanion-410762745 Volcanion], and [http://xous54.deviantart.com/art/Hoopa-410943259 Hoopa]. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 18:38, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Bulbapedia_talk:Editor%27s_Hub&diff=prev&oldid=2047544 Again, this is my response on the issue.] I still say that we should take the time to wait and see what GF will do. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 06:16, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Diancie was unveiled on CoroCoro, but I bet you Bulbapedians are going to say that even if it's not a fake, we can't say the same for the other two (and Mega Lati@s). Am I right? [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 21:18, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

== Editing of [[Headbutt (move)|Headbutt]] ==

Basically, I just went to add that Bibarel is confirmed to learn the move at Lv.18 (no idea about the pre-evo yet, but I trust it's also the same). It seems that I am unable to save edits to that page. Do we know what is causing this? I just edited [[Acupressure (move)|Acupressure]] without a problem a few minutes ago. Meanwhile, I tried the chat room, but it's more interested in a bot trivia game (now over 1,300 questions in!) and the other official channel is - well - dead. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 19:40, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
:I tried to edit it and it didn't go through. Maybe it's the amount of templates on the page? It's the only thing that really sets apart enough from other moves for it to be the only one to be uneditable. I'll see if someone can figure it out. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 20:21, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
::Well, if any of them are complete, some could perhaps be converted to generic tables and left in like that (if they get vandalized, they can easily be restored). That might help with that issue. But then, I wondered why the learnset table was so far down. Clearly trying to include Headbutt as it applies to G/S/C. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 20:41, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
:::Pages with lots of code transcluded to them, such as the code used in the template, exceed the maximum amount of code able to be used on a MediaWiki page. This limit is unable to be changed. The Headbutt page seems to be just before that limit. The page can be saved, it just takes a huge amount of time and a few attempts. But, any longer, and parts of the page will seemingly go missing, starting from the bottom up. We had a similarly large page on Wikisimpsons. We ended up needing to split the page up into several pages as huge tables of information just vanished. That might have to be done here too. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 20:48, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
::::If you'd like, I can take a look at it between assigning moves. I think provided the main page has the same types of data as the rest of the moves, it should be easy to move other data to a secondary page that doesn't need much editing. Also, if I cut the information off the existing one and save, I should have no problem saving less data.
::::With that said, if you'd rather do it later, understood. But it keeps me and others from adding data to it until it's done, hence why I'd like to look at it. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 20:53, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

(Indent reset, any replies to the above can continue there, this is a separate segment.)

I have copied from [[Headbutt (move)|Headbutt]] the data that I think can be removed from the page. What I will suggest is taking this off the page and having it linked separately on the page. This will bring the page data down to a more useable level that saving issues will hopefully be reduced. The current location of the copied data is [[User:CycloneGU/Headbutt|in my userspace]]. I'm open to working on the piece there and then moving it to the article space when it's ready for inclusion as a separate page. Or we can move it immediately and work on it already linked from the main page. What do you folks think? [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 21:03, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
:I think wait for input from admins before anything major is done to the page. Although the only way I can see the page being editable again is by splitting it up in my expert opinion (expert as I've encountered this issue before :P) ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 21:05, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
::This is why I have already copied the data separately to my userspace. That way an admin. can move it to an appropriate title, the data removed from [[Headbutt (move)|Headbutt]], and the link made between the articles. I agree, this issue was encountered six or seven months ago by someone on that talk page, and we can't deal with this over and over. We might even need to reduce the size of some of the lists at the bottom of the page by indicating all Pokémon in the previous list are also on the following list, and just not list them; however, that is a more drastic change I won't explore at this time. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 21:10, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
::I just had a separate afterthought as well (hence the almost immediate new edit, this is not a preview issue). The list of Pokémon learning the move by TM can be included on the second article. It only applies to the second generation (for now) and we can remove it from the main article, again to save space. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 21:12, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
::(Addendum) I have copied the TM information to my userspace. Again, no edits have been made to the main page yet, and I'd like to help work on a separate article regarding Headbutt and the mechanics as used in Generations II and IV in G/S/C/HG/SS (hence why it's in my userspace right now, but I'm open to it being moved to the main space if admins. approve the idea). The obvious alternative is to not be able to edit the main page or have data go missing; this at least preserves the data. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 21:21, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
:::For the record, I think it would be more appropriate to move the lists of Pokemon that can be found via Headbutt. Learnlists should all remain together, but we do have [[Hidden Power calculation|precedent]] for moving lengthy material about how a move works to a separate page rather than keeping it on the same one. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:34, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
::::For the sake of full disclosure, I also [[User talk:Force Fire#Headbutt|brought this up]] with one of the admins. personally. Because Headbutt was only a TM in Generation II (replacing [[Razor Wind (move)|Razor Wind]] but since becoming [[Dragon Claw (move)|Dragon Claw]] in Gen. III, which has not changed since), and was likely made such for the specific reason of allowing players to buy the TM for repeated use teaching Pokémon the move to attack random trees, I have made the recommendation that the TM move data be placed there for that reason. I've provided additional points at the linked location.
::::The TM section alone is 11,000 bytes of data, and with the page causing problems due to being so large, any space we can get would be useful at this point. If it is deemed after staff discussion that it should stay there, I would recommend putting the data on a page by itself and transcluding the data to the page. This could technically be done on both pages, in fact, since the data specifically applies to that game where the mechanic occurs. That way, the string putting the data on one or both pages is a simple string, and the data is its own page.
::::For examples of how transclusion works, head over to Wikipedia and see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013%E2%80%9314_NHL_season 2013-14 NHL season], specifically under Standings. All four charts there are located on other pages and edited on those pages due to the daily updating on each compared to the article itself. This way, people editing the standings and people editing the rest of the article aren't running into constant edit conflicts. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 06:04, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
::::UPDATE: Again, for full disclosure, see [[User:CycloneGU/Headbutt]] for how I'm proposing to reclaim the space on the page. I don't know if this is ideal for the staff, but the data I am recommending to transclude in this case should never have to be edited again, so the data page can be locked and the importing line in the article commented above and below warning not to modify that line. Of course, the data page would be moved first, hence why it's still a proposal. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 06:31, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::I've split the wild Pokémon only off into [[Headbutt (move)/Wild Pokémon]], as this needed to be fixed swiftly, since it was preventing editing of the page altogether. If you think the scope of the subpage should be different, please bring that up on its talk page. I'm not even that sure we need these lists (for HGSS, since Pokémon encountered are dependent on area rather than what category of area it is), but they can't stay on the Headbutt page. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:02, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::I still can't save edits to a segment of the page. I still propose, since the TM data should never be edited, doing the same thing there by moving the page in my usersdpace and linking that there. Unless it's just a case of the cache needing to be dumped, in which case it may work after that's done. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 07:07, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::It certainly can be edited now, because my edit moving the wild Pokémon lists off the page went through. And if the issue is being unable to save a specific section, it is unlikely to be due to the number of templates; in fact, IIRC you can still edit sections of a page that is too big to save. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:16, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::::As for keeping the TM list on the page, it has less to do with editing than it does with reading. A major reason people go to move pages is to see what can learn it (I would assume), and I don't want to split up learnlists across multiple pages. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:18, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::Re TMs: did you see the page I created in my userspace? No, that's not the layout I propose, but I basically copied the TM data as it currently appears to a separate document, which allows the header to still be edited (I grabbed after the header up to the next header, for the next table).
:::::::::Re editing Headbutt, it FINALLY went through. so I'm satisfied with it now. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 07:20, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

== Wild Hold Items ==

I've been a member for about ten minutes and I probably have no chance of anyone seeing this... but how about a page that states the Pokemon that hold certain items in the wild including the item and the hold percentage. Possibly even moves or abilities that change the item's effect or position like unnerve or thief. I'm not sure but I think it'd be helpful. {{unsigned|8BitRevenge}}
:Actually, this is already done. On sections for items, if a wild Pokemon holds it in the wild in a game it is found in, the game section for that item lists it. The same for a Pokemon's page (under the "Held items" section), although it is only on the Pokemon's page that the percentage for that item is listed.--[[User:NOBODY|NOBODY]] ([[User talk:NOBODY|talk]]) 03:37, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
::That list is [[List of Pokémon by wild held item|here]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:41, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

== Dream World Moves ==

This deserves attention. Dream World no longer needs its own section because, well, the Dream World is closing (at least in terms of naptime and usefulness) as of December 14. Additionally, we are updating Pokémon pages for Gen. VI now; since Dream World isn't there, we should not include it as a section.

With that taken into account, do we or do we not have a place to list moves that are learnable in an earlier generation? If so, all Dream World moves should be moved to that location. We can also update those lists to take into account moves learned via Move Tutor in prior generations, or learned via TMs that no longer exist. If a move can be learned by breeding, we don't even need to list the Dream World move; see [[Pawniard (Pokémon)|Pawniard]], whose moves [[Psycho Cut (move)|Psycho Cut]] and [[Sucker Punch (move)|Sucker Punch]] are learnable via breeding. However, in the case of [[Butterfree (Pokémon)|Butterfree]], we have [[Air Cutter (move)|Air Cutter]] and [[Roost (move)|Roost]] unlearnable via breeding since Caterpie cannot learn any moves through breeding itself, and thus those moves belong in that section on Butterfree's page (which I've started updating except for the DW section).

Thoughts? [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 18:05, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
:They're already on the "Generation V learnset" subpages (here's {{DL|Butterfree (Pokémon)/Generation V learnset|Dream World moves|Butterfree's}}, for example). I think that's fine, isn't it? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:22, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

::That's my opinion as well. The question is whether other editors want to preserve them in some way.
::I'm actually going to remove it from Butterfree now pending opinion on this. I'm about to pull Butterfree out to level up. The only thing I can't fully check yet is the TM list, but I can start that. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 18:48, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

== Time travel and Time Travel ==

There are two pages with the same name differentiated by a capital letter: [[Time travel]] and [[Time Travel]]. Both have links to the other page (I added the one to Time Travel), but this is still quite confusing to have it like this. Wouldn't it make more sense to have Time Travel renamed Time Travel (e-reader application)? [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] ([[User talk:Jmvb|talk]]) 23:31, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
:I coudn't agree more!--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 23:48, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

== I have a question... ==

I've noticed that the facility trainers (in the Battle Frontier, Maison, Contests, etc.) have the same name/team/quotes. Since these trainers are recurring, is it important that we put them on the page for their respective locations? Just wondering. -- [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 23:33, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
:I don't think they have the same teams (at least for battle facilities; contests might). There is a pool of Pokémon that each Trainer has their Pokémon randomly selected from. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:21, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

== Disambiguation pages format ==

I am pretty strongly of the opinion that most of the disambiguation pages are currently formatted badly. The numeric pages like [[046]] appear to have "good" formats, with the "disambiguated" links at the beginning; but it appears that just about all other disambiguation pages, like [[Aaron]], use a bad format, with the disambiguated links only appearing ''after'' the description.

It's hard to provide a concrete reason why this is "bad". One possible rationale is that, in many cases, an article title alone can be enough to know which article you want, and any description appearing before that link just gets in the way; by contrast, anyone who ''needs'' that description text is not at all inconvenienced if it appears after the link. Another possible rationale is simply that, without the disambiguated article title at the beginning, I simply have nothing concrete to link the description with initially, so it's just a little abstract...

It may be worth noting that Wikipedia's manual of style for [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Disambiguation_pages#Individual_entries disambiguation pages] specifies that the (relevant) link should come first.

Mostly, though, I just ''know'' that, for example, the Metronome disambiguation page works better like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Metronome&oldid=2032134 this] than like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Metronome&oldid=2032138 this]. It always irritates me seeing the latter and having to navigate it...

Do others agree that the "disambiguated" links should be written first? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:29, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
:Agreed, and it is an involved project, but would improve Bulbapedia's consistency and navigation. - [[User:Poikins|'''poi''']][[User talk:Poikins|'''kins''']] 21:55, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

== Retrieving Information Question ==

While I was looking around on the site for something to improve, I discovered that Bulbapedia doesn't have a page for Style in Lumiose City. I would like to make this page, and I found another page on Serebii that seems to help. However, I don't want to just copy information. How should I handle this? [http://www.serebii.net/xy/lumiosestyle.shtml Here's the page]
Also, should I just add this information to the page [[Lumiose City]] instead, once I get the information?
[[User:Lnwz|Lnwz]] ([[User talk:Lnwz|talk]]) 00:44, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

== Proof requirement for hatch times? ==

Hello my friends!
Noah speaking, I was planning on doing some research into the hatch times of certain unconfirmed Pokemon. What form of proof would you require? I could film it and add a footnote, or would you prefer multiple tests/people working on the same egg?

[[User:Polishpeo12|Polishpeo12]] ([[User talk:Polishpeo12|talk]]) 18:54, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
:Unless there is some reason to doubt a hatch time you write down, then I don't think you need a source. --[[User:NOBODY|NOBODY]] ([[User talk:NOBODY|talk]]) 23:16, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

== Skrelp ==
Hello. In Skrelp's page, I realized that in the trivia section, it says that Skrelp was the only Poison type introduced in the 6th generation. I think that's untrue. Wouldn't Mega Venusaur and Mega Gengar count as new Poison-type Pokémon? ([[User:Hoogachakka|Hoogachakka]] ([[User talk:Hoogachakka|talk]]) 02:00, 28 December 2013 (UTC))
:No, they wouldn't. Mega Evolutions are not new species.--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:29, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

== Overworld Sprites ==

Hello! I noticed a problem with the top of a Kalos Pokémon page, where it says which Pokémon comes previously and next in the National Dex. It doesn't have the sprites of the Pokémon. I can easily retrieve the pictures, so how do I edit those?
{{unsigned|Hoogachakka}}
:You upload images through the Bulbagarden Archives, though you'll want to contact an administrator because no one has been able to provide the sprites without stealing them or get permission from other sites. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 02:17, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
:I was going to take a picture of the sprite in the game, then upload it to my computer, then photoshop it to be just the sprite. That way, it's my photo. ([[User:Hoogachakka|Hoogachakka]] ([[User talk:Hoogachakka|talk]]) 02:37, 28 December 2013 (UTC))
::You mean, take a photo with a camera? That's going to produce a very low-quality image. We need pixel-for-pixel faithfulness to the games, so a capture card is the only option. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 02:49, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
:::There are a few images on the archives that are recreated images without taking it directly from the games, but I do not believe that the practice is recommended. I would contact an administrator on the archives if this would be acceptable. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 04:03, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

== Regarding APNG images ==

In using Bulbapedia as a reference for various Moves, I noticed you employ the APNG format, however many of the animations are unnecessarily large. I've personally spent quite a bit of time building and deconstructing APNGs in order to understand the format. I thought I'd start my contributions by providing and animated version of [[a:File:Reflect_III.png|Reflect]]. Before I upload it though, I'd like to confirm my suspicion that the existing animations are intentionally split with the first frame being midway through the loop so that APNG unaware browsers will still display a useful illustration of the move. --[[User:GARY-DOS|GARY-DOS]] ([[User talk:GARY-DOS|talk]]) 06:21, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
:Yes, it is intentional to have the unanimated frame be still a useful image. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:05, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

== Version Exclusive Trainers ==

I apologize if this is not the correct area to talk about this. The character box for trainers is made up of several templates, which means there is not a core talk page for this to go to. After the debacle of exploring Mt. Mortar in Gold (gen II) with every possible resource online and through game play, I have come to the realization, unless I still have not explored well enough, that three out of the four trainers are more than likely version exclusive to Crystal version. That being said, there is not an area in the trainer box to show if certain trainers are version exclusive. Due to this, articles with trainer boxes which do not state the specifics of certain version exclusive trainers are misleading, which should be fixed. That being said, I do not know exactly how many trainers are version exclusive, and I am aware that determining that would take a lot of time. One may say that due to it costing a lot of time to calculate the above, as well as it being so specific, that it doesn't matter. I wish to know the opinions of others to see if this is necessary...not just for my sake, but for any other viewer using Bulbapedia for information about locations and the trainers within them. [[User:Qj|Qj]] ([[User talk:Qj|talk]]) 02:30, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
:(Now that you mention it, I'm pretty sure I remember my old VersusBooks guide from my childhood mentioning that the Trainers were new to Crystal. So I'm pretty sure you're right.) I wouldn't think it's necessary to change the templates. I think we should just be able to use separate section headers (i.e., it's "Generation II" now, so we could add a subheader under it for "Crystal only"). As for the time necessary, that may be an obstacle, but no logistical obstacle should be considered large enough to make us not even ''try'' to compile correct information. If we try and fail, sure, and the topic will almost certainly attract very little attention, but giving up before the start seems defeatist. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:17, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
::Just so you know, a good amount of pages already have version exclusives separated (for example: {{rt|115|Hoenn}} has the trainers separated between Ruby and Sapphire (where all the trainers are pretty much the same) and Emerald, with trainers who have differences being marked off. It's the same with Generation IV Routes like ({{rt|212|Sinnoh}})). If any Routes aren't marked with version exclusive trainers it was either done by someone with one game assuming they all have the same trainers, or don't have version exclusives. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 05:46, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
:::Thank you for the clarification on the issue. I would have seen the separation, but the articles I visited had none of the separation you talked about above. I hope that editors willing to make edits to trainer boxes in the future will first make sure their information spans through all games of the generation in question, as to prevent future misunderstandings for all future viewers. (StrategyWiki, in general, is not as accurate compared to this site due to the large community.) [[User:Qj|Qj]] ([[User talk:Qj|talk]]) 06:31, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Generation VI

2014-02-10T14:09:12Z

Shepeedy: /* The name currently in use is NOT a fan designator */

The redirect here needs to be suppressed, now that gen VI has been announced. [[User:Digifiend|Digifiend]] ([[User talk:Digifiend|talk]]) 12:49, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

== X and Y. ==

Since this is going to be a full 3D (instead of {{tt|2.5D|2.5D is when something is made to look 3D, but is actually 2D}})... X and Y (as well Z) are the coordinates in 3D. X is horizontal, Y is vertical and Z is depth. Kinda neat reference. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 14:47, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:*Cool theory. Wouldn't be surprised if they did. But for all we know they might do what they did with Generation V and come out with an "X2" and "Y2". But I like your idea. ^_^ ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 00:46, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
::WOW, Marked I thought of exactly the same (before reading this talk page). But there's more! Remember Palkia and Dialga? Well, they're the beings of space and time, huh? Well, remeber Reshiram, Zekrom and Kyurem? The dragons of truth, ideals and dreams? Now it gets tricky, remember the differences between Black (2) and White (2)? Old Opelucid, new Opelucid, old way of growing vegetables in Mistralton, new way of growing vegetables in Mistralton? Where, or WHEN, do people find the truth, find their ideals or have dreams about those two? In the past, the future and the present! Wait that has to do with time! Wait Dialga has to do with time! And wth, in the Cartesian coordinate system x and y and z (there's always a third one, of course) represent the 3 dimensions of space! Wait did I say space? Wait Palkia has to do with Space! [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 19:41, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:::On other hand, considering DNA helises in Japanese logos... If they're going by sequels again, we can expect Pokémon W and Pokémon Z. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 20:36, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
::::This page is not meant for speculation. Please take this conversation over to the forums. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 21:01, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:::::Pokemaster I was just going to add this: 'You would expect four legendary mascots!? Well, there are a billion ways for the Pokémon developers to make sequels (if they're not going for a third version once again) without having to create four legends. Like what they did with Kyurem, or maybe they'll give X and Y a new form, so discussing about that won't get you anywhere obvious, and then you'll start speculating...' But pokemaster, can we add the relation between the Caresian coordinate system and the new 3d games on the page? [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 21:08, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
::::::The staff decided that we will not be adding any trivia about the Caresian coordinate system at this time. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 22:58, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

==A few errors==
There should be a dot after the Eiffel Tower part. Also, surely the last sentence is supposed to say '''five''' previous generations, not four. [[User: Ariano|Արիանո]] 16:33, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Or rather I would say "the regions preceding it". [[User: Ariano|Արիանո]] 16:39, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Fixed. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 19:51, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

== Not "versions"! ==

Just to point out - it's been made clear in the Pokémon Direct that X and Y are the first two main series games without "Version" in their titles. In other words, they are not "Pokémon X Version and Pokémon Y Version", but "Pokémon X and Pokémon Y". Could this page please be edited to reflect this departure? [[User:NP Chilla|NP Chilla]] ([[User talk:NP Chilla|talk]]) 17:36, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:[http://www.thesixthaxis.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/PokemonXY8-1024x640.jpg This shows them as X Version and Y Version], so it still follows the tradition, even if unofficially. For now we won't be changing it. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 19:51, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
== problem ==

it says they '''were''' released as a pair [[User:Pikachu Bros.|Pikachu Bros.]] ([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|talk]]) 19:09, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Fixed. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 19:51, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

== With this confirmation... ==

that means that Generation V is the first Generation that does not have a solitary version? {{unsigned|Deruffy}}
:Don't count your chickens before they hatch{{tt|.|This is a proverb; though technically I didn't know about this one, but I knew about its counterpart in my language}} Considering that they made sequels instead of third version, we can't be sure about anything. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 20:48, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

== Region inspiration ==

"The new region draws inspiration from France" should probably be changed to "The new region appears to draw inspiration from France" until we've seen more of it. There might well just be an Eiffel Tower replica plunked into a PokeCalifornia or something. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 21:24, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:I agree with you on this point. It's honestly too soon to be jumping to conclusions. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 21:42, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
::I think, if I were being really pedantic, even "Appears to draw inspiration from France" could be a little misleading, because it makes it sound like it'll all be France. There are deserts in the trailer, how many deserts does France have? That's more quintessentially Spanish. I'd say the new region "appears to have drawn inspiration from European landmarks, such as the Eiffel Tower in France." But even then, European landmarks is conjecture. Relatively safe conjecture, but still, minefield!! Only thing we can really say is that there's a tower in it that looks a bit French. How do you translate that into Bulbapese? [[User:Constantmotion|Constantmotion]] ([[User talk:Constantmotion|talk]]) 00:42, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:::Actually, I just watched the trailer back, and the moment where Pikachu shoots lightning across the world, you can see it originates somewhere in Europe. I found this interesting, and given this conversation, an observation perhaps to be worth noting. [[User:Rassilon of Old|'''Rassilon of Old''']] ([[User talk:Rassilon of Old|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rassilon_of_Old|Contribs]]) 01:13, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:::: I also agree with "appears to have drawn inspiration from European landmarks, such as the Eiffel Tower in France.", since there are many monuments similar to the ones we can see in the trailer, like Blackpool tower in or Buckingam Palace in England, aswell as the radio tower in Alexanderplatz in Berlin, or the city architecture in Italy. [[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 19:32, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
::::Good thing that you mentioned the trailer because, if anything, it only serves as further evidence that the games draw inspiration from France because Pikachu is seen actually standing atop the Eiffel tower. People who keep mentioning "how many deserts does France have?" are pretty ridiculous when you take into account the fact that Game Freak has taken a huge amount of artistic freedom in the past (i.e. Unova Route 4). [[User:Gacs|Gacs]] ([[User talk:Gacs|talk]]) 07:47, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
:::::This discussion has trailed off into idle speculation. Please use [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f693/ the forums] to carry out this discussion. This topic is being dropped as the page refers to Europe instead of France. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 10:52, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

== reveal time. ==

Can we say this generation has the fastest reveal time after a game of the previous generation was released?[[User:Deoxys80|Deoxys80]] ([[User talk:Deoxys80|talk]]) 01:02, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

The space between Gen I and Gen II was quite short too in Japan if I recall [[User:KennyMc0294|KennyMc0294]] ([[User talk:KennyMc0294|talk]]) 01:19, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
:Looking at the infoboxes in our articles (which give the exact length in days), Generation I was about 350 days longer than Generation V in Japan, but about 60 days shorter in the US. By the way, KennyMc0294, you can sign your posts with four tildes (~) instead of having to type it out manually. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:27, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

=="3 new"?==
Shouldn't the sidebar say 5 new? They may not be named, but the legendaries shown certainly count as separate, new Pokémon. {{unsigned|Gadvac}}
:It's based on how many Pokémon articles are in the Gen VI category. The Legendary Pokémon don't currently have names, so it's impossible to create an article for them. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:46, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
They were recently revealed with the deer-like Pokémon being Xerneas and the bird-like Pokémon being Yvetal. {{unsigned|Plusleminun311312}}

==No images?==
Can we get some images of the new overworld/battle system in the gallery, or is there a page where they already exist? -[[User:Wohdin|Wohdin]] ([[User talk:Wohdin|talk]]) 05:13, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:They're on [[Pokémon X and Y Versions]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:14, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

== Xerneas and Yveltal ==

Names of the X and Y mascots just confirmed: http://www.pokemon.com/pokemonxy/en-us/ [[User:NP Chilla|NP Chilla]] ([[User talk:NP Chilla|talk]]) 14:16, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

"Nintendo of America has revealed the names of the two Legendary Pokemon which will feature in the forthcoming Pokemon X and Pokemon Y for the Nintendo 3DS. The Pokemon X Legendary is called Xerneas, which is pronounced Zurr-nee-us. The Pokemon Y mascot is called Yveltal, which is pronounced ee-vell-tall." {{unsigned|BritLucifer}}

== Genetic Generation? ==

Even ignoring that it would be a reference to 3D axes if there were a Pokémon Z, the selling point of this generation is that it is the first generation to be 3D in every sense of the word. I think that's how people will remember this gen, so I thought we would be calling it the 3D generation, similar to how Generation III was called the Advance Generation. X and Y don't have special meaning in genetics outside of sex chromosomes. Even without a Pokémon Z I'd say it's more a reference to the mathematical variables that are used to establish two different things, than to genetics. Like how Black and White are used as metaphors for things that are opposite. That was actually my first reaction when I found out the names of the games, as "Pokémon X and Y" could be used as a term to refer to paired versions in general. Well, what I'm saying is that I would call it the 3D generation. Feel free to disagree, but it would be better than "Genetic Generation". [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 15:48, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:I agree to an extent - while it is possible it's to do with genetics, it's a bit of a stretch to call it Genetic Generation at such an early point in conception. Also, it does seem a bit less likely for it to be genetics (after all, if it truly were about sex chromosomes, it should be XX and XY, not X and Y. My first thoughts personally were co-ordinates, but that could be wrong, too). Either way, as a wiki, speculation shouldn't be added as fact, right? Thus, "Genetic Generation" should be moved until there is hard evidence that the X and Y do, in fact, represent sex genes. [[User:LordSchmee|LordSchmee]] ([[User talk:LordSchmee|talk]]) 16:00, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
::Do not forget that [[Generation IV]] is already called the 3D generation (even though this Generation is gonna be more 3D than Gen IV) and that there's a small string of DNA in the Japanese logo's of the Games. ☼ Blazing[[User talk:Blazingfist|Fist ☼]] 16:04, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
::: Well, I guess if there's already a 3D generation we'll just have to leave it until people actually start calling this generation something or Bulbapedia calling it genetic generation carries over to people calling it that, whichever comes first. At least I know why it's called that here now. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 16:26, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:Who comes up with these names anyway? I've only ever heard of "Advanced Generation" (which was used in promotion). Everything else seems to be made up. --[[User:Dorsal Axe|Dorsal Axe]] ([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]]) 16:22, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
::I don't think gen VI should be called genetic generation without confirmation. The names of the previous generations had some relation to (at least) the primary paired versions. For e.g., gen II was Metal Generation(Gold and Silver). So the name should have some relation the primary paired versions.[[User:Auraguardian197|'''Auraguardian''']][[User talk:Auraguardian197|'''197''']] 17:22, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:::[[:a:File:X Version logo Jp.png|The "n" in Pocket Monster clearly represents a strand of DNA.]] Therefore, it's obvious they're referring to the chromosomes, and not the axes. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 17:27, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
::::Incidentally, there's a 3D pokeball in the logo and it also uses 3D text. That being said, calling it the "coordinates generation" or something would just be asinine. --[[User:Dorsal Axe|Dorsal Axe]] ([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]]) 17:46, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

:Could it not easily be referencing both? x & y coordinates relating to mathematics, 3D graphics, etc as well as X & Y chromosomes relating to DNA, evolution, pokedarwinism, etc. Also, x and y aren't opposite, they're orthogonal. In fact, none of the version names have been truly "opposite" except MAYBE black and white. --[[User:BritLucifer|BritLucifer]] ([[User talk:BritLucifer|talk]]) 18:19, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
::To quote Pokemaster97 (from above), "The staff decided that we will not be adding any trivia about the Caresian coordinate system at this time." So, let's just wait until more info comes out. [[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|☆]][[User:GamerGeek|Gamer]][[User talk:GamerGeek|Geek]][[Special:Log/GamerGeek|☆]] 22:40, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

"'''YES''', Generation VI is confirmed. '''PLEASE DO NOT ADD SPECULATION TO PAGES.''' As soon as information is confirmed by a reliable source, it will be added."
Because Gen. VI being the "Genetic Generation" is obviously a confirmed fact. I don't understand why it is still there. '''*~Darklight~*''' 13:13, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

:I'm so sorry to disagree, but this is bothering me too. ''None'' of this is confirmed by any reliable source. We can't be sure what that graphic above the n means. I personally think that stating this is the "Genetic Generation" is too bold and premature. If anything, I think both theories are correct; the one on the side of it being the first 3D generation of Pokémon games, and maybe something to do with DNA, that I agree, is present in the Japanese logos of the games anyway. I think it shouldn't be added to the page until something more, like a preview of the games or a glimpse of the next series is out, to see which theory was the closest or actually correct. Come on, we can wait. [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] ([[User talk:YukitoOoO|talk]]) 04:20, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

== no longer 3 ==

Hi, i was just wondering if someone can change the '3 new' hyperlink on the Pokemon section of the side bit, seeing as there's now 5 named Pokemon instead of 3; i'd do it myself but the page is locked, thanks [[User:Azure42|Azure/ChromeVoid42]] ([[User talk:Azure42|talk]]) 19:00, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:Click the clock at the top of the site. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 19:26, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

== UK and Aussie Release ==

You guys forgot to mark the template so that it shows the UK and Aussie release as October 2013 as well. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:04, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

== "Starters" ==

Is there any confirmation that Chespin, Fennekin, and Froakie are the starters? After the last two generations, it's been proven that we can't assume anything. [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 03:45, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
:[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/01/08/meet-your-pok-233-mon-x-and-y-starters.aspx Yes they are]. [[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|☆]][[User:GamerGeek|Gamer]][[User talk:GamerGeek|Geek]][[Special:Log/GamerGeek|☆]] 23:06, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
::It's been confirmed on [http://www.pokemon.com/pokemonxy/en-us the official Pokémon website] as well. [[User:Mathfreak231|--Mathfreak231]] ([[User talk:Mathfreak231|talk]]) 14:18, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

== Advances in gameplay ==

The only thing in that subtopic is info about the graphics. Retitle? [[User:Ampere|Ampere]] ([[User talk:Ampere|talk]]) 04:34, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
:It's going to have more information added when more information comes out. --[[User:Funktastic~!|It's Funktastic~!]] ([[User talk:Funktastic~!|talk]]) 04:45, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

== Link Troubles ==

On some pages, when reading the 'YES, Generation VI is confirmed.' part, the 'Generation VI' is not a link, merely in bold writing, one such page is the page for Last Resort (Sorry for the lack of link to page, not good with links!).[[User:TurtleLover1999|TurtleLover1999]] ([[User talk:TurtleLover1999|talk]]) 18:54, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
:I think that you mean to put this on the [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] talk page as it seems to be what you are referring to. Hope that helps a bit. :) --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:13, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
::I don't seem to be getting this problem. Is it still happening? '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 15:04, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
:::No,I don't think so. I checked last resort article and the link is working.[[User:Auraguardian197|'''Auraguardian''']][[User talk:Auraguardian197|'''197''']] 16:17, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

== article for ninfia ==

could we have an article of the recent announced pokemon, "Ninfia"{{unsigned|Dragon146}}
:[[User:S2daam/Ninfia (Pokémon)|Already is one]]. It is just not in the mainspace right now. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 19:18, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
Today his English name was announced by the Pokémon Company - it's '''Sylveon'''. [[User:NP Chilla|NP Chilla]] ([[User talk:NP Chilla|talk]]) 13:08, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

== Sylveon ==

I think Sylveon should be added to the page as the 4th Generation VI Pokémon to have been revealed/announced. [[User:CounterShift|CounterShift]] ([[User talk:CounterShift|talk]]) 02:25, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant 6th Pokémon. Xerneas and Yveltal appeared first. [[User:CounterShift|CounterShift]] ([[User talk:CounterShift|talk]]) 02:31, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

== Some trivia to be added... ==

The Japanese logo of the Pokémon games has been changed once again for Generation VI's releases. ~~'''''[[User:LDEJRuff|LDE]][[User talk:LDEJRuff|JRuff]]'''''~~ 5:11, 23 February, 2013 (UTC)

==Some pretty obvious trivia==

This is the first time the same games are being released at the same time in Japan and the US. Infernapefan95 00:37, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
:It would be better to wait until we have an official release date. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 03:40, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

== Pokemon Sprites/Models ==

After the game is released, are all Pokemon models going to replace the existing sprites (on the site)?
Or just the Gen. 6? [[User:Garyoak|Garyoak]] ([[User talk:Garyoak|talk]]) 01:07, 10 March 2013 (UTC) !
:We can't give a definitive answer right now. They might still use sprites for say the Pokédex or something. We won't know for sure until the games are released. If there are just models, it's possible the sprites will be replaced. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 01:14, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

== An Error On The Page ==

The page says that "For the first time, the Pokemon games will be in full 3D." However, Pokemon Coliseum was also completely in 3D, can one of you admins change it to say something like, "For the first time since Pokemon Coliseum, the games will be in full 3D." {{unsigned|Cowsaidmoo}}
:This point is referring to the main series. Colosseum (as well as Stadium 0, 1, 2; XD; and PBR which you missed) is not a main series game. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:25, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
::Personally I kind of agree with Cowsaidmoo, could you change it to say "For the first time, the ''main series'' Pokémon games will be in full 3D."{{unsigned|IVsaur}}

== "(6 new)" ==

The page mentions that there are only 6 new pokémon, but they recently revealed the rumored new mewtwo form as a new pokémon as opposed to a mewtwo form, so it should have it's own page, and this page should state that there are 7 new pokémon.
[[User:Kitty Box|Kitty Box]] ([[User talk:Kitty Box|talk]]) 23:34, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
:It has not been given a name yet, nor has it been revealed that it is either a new Pokémon or just a form of Mewtwo. When Black Kyurem and White Kyurem where announced, they were presented as new Pokémon first too. You can't definitely say it is a new Pokémon. So unless there will be confirmation about its status, it won't get a page, nor will anything be changed regarding it on this page. ☼ Blazing[[User talk:Blazingfist|Fist ☼]] 23:46, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
::That number also automatically updates depending on the number of articles in the {{cat|Generation VI Pokémon}} cat, so it can't be manually changed to reflect current numbers without an addition to the category. So even if it's revealed that it's a brand new pokémon, that number will not change unless we have a name to make an article into (ergo upping the number in the category from 6 to 7). [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 23:59, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

==Grammar mistake==
The opening line of the article, "The sixth generation of Pokémon, is the sixth installment of the Pokémon series," should not contain a comma between Pokemon and is. The comma adds nothing and doesn't make grammatical sense.
[[User:Ransomedsquirrel|Ransomedsquirrel]] ([[User talk:Ransomedsquirrel|talk]]) 01:46, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
:I agree...I removed it. Thank you :) [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 01:54, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

== "For the first time in the main series, the games will be in full 3D"? ==

In the article, it says that X & Y will be "For the first time in the main series, the games will be in full 3D". Isn't this an incorrect statement due to [[Pokémon Colosseum]] and [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]]? {{unsigned|?????}} 19:40, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

No. It says '''main series'''

[[User:Pokemon nomekop|Pokemon nomekop]] ([[User talk:Pokemon nomekop|talk]]) 01:32, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
:Colosseum and XD ''are'' main series as far as Bulbapedia is concerned. (They're included on the "main series" template at the bottom of any main series game, and have "Generation III main series" listed in their articles' infoboxes.) The sentence should either be removed to changed to something like "The games will be the first main series games in full 3D on a handheld console". [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 01:51, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
::Yeah, it means hand held games. If it meant the main series in general, Pokemon Stadium would've preceded that by miles away. I would re-write it but I think you should get what the sentence is trying to say anyway given what the article is about (i.e. Hand held games).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:28, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Stadium, Colosseum, XD and other similar games should be referred to as "side series" games of Bulbapedia (distinct from both "main series" and "spin-off"). This was decided back in 2011, it's just that the terminology was never really fully implemented. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:11, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
::::If it's not gonna be "fully implemented", it might as well not have been decided at all. As the wiki pages currently stand, ColoXD and the Stadium games are main series, so if they're not corrected we might as well go back to the old definition, because apparently nobody cares enough about it. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:49, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
:::::Previously nobody had decided whether they were main series or not. Plenty of people insisted they were main series, and plenty insisted they were spin-offs. Thus, we needed to create this third category. They were referred to as both spin-offs and main series games on Bulbapedia prior to this agreement, so there is nothing to revert to. All we need now is for them to actually be properly referred to. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:58, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
::::::The "spin-off" template is currently labelled "side series". The template's current content aside, that's the name of their target classification anyway, so they should be moved there. If no one else will make the changes, I will. Is there anything that needs editing besides the templates themselves and the infoboxes/templates on the games' pages? (There should probably be a new page called "Side series Pokémon games" in the vein of the current "Spin-off Pokémon games", but I don't really know any of the basics about starting articles, so I'll leave that to someone else.) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 07:05, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
::::::Oh! You already started editing the games' pages. I went ahead and changed the templates. Anything else I can do? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 07:09, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

== Region ==
Someone change the region to Karosu, because for some reason I cannot.

The region is called Karosu, for some reason I cannot edit this in. {{unsigned|TheJaceX}}

:The English name is now Kalos, but the article is protected, so only admins can edit the page. [[User:SpecialStageRoute|Special Stage Route]] ([[User talk:SpecialStageRoute|pit stop]]) 13:31, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

== Debut time ==

Since it's debuting in the same time for English and Japanese, wouldn't it make sense to remove the "En" and "Jp" as sub boxes? --[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] ([[User talk:Phoenixon|talk]]) 13:47, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
:Those are part of the template so they can't be removed without throwing it off. Besides, we don't know yet if they games are being released on the same day just yet. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 23:27, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
::Hoennmaster, I don't really think that something could be a sub of something else just because it is released a single day later... If the games go through development at the same time, I think that their would be an obvious case of both being the original. However, I don't think that the English translaters actually write some of the text fully by themselves. So I guess it's still a sub after all. I mean, I don't expect both games being written respectively and telling a totally different story... [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 19:42, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
:::Development has nothing to do with this, it's the restrictions of the current template. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 06:58, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
::::I can understand that HoennMaster, but I just don't agree with the part where you say: 'Besides, we don't know yet if the(y) games are being released on the same day just yet.'. I just don't think that not being released on the same day, could be an argument for it being a sub. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 18:09, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
:::::There's not argument to be had, as I have already said, that is how the template is set up. A new template would have to be made to have just one release date. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 02:44, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
:::::: Yes, yes, yes HoennMaster, I understand and accept that! Even before I said anything on this page. However the point of the games having to be released on the same day to not be a sub, doesn't make sense to me. But it DOES make sense to me that we use the current template. And with argument I meant 'point' and not 'discussion'. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 17:16, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
(resetting indent) I'm guessing that he doesn't understand what you mean by a "sub". If they aren't released on the same day, then it needs to have both boxes shown, because even one day of difference should be shown by us. If we use the current template, it'll have both boxes shown regardless. I'm not quite sure where you disagree. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 17:42, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
:I understand what he is saying (although as said, you aren't being clear on what you mean by saying "sub"), but he's bringing up irrelevant things that don't have anything to do with the original question. The original question was answered in the first post and then got derailed. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 17:46, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

MyNintendoNews reports a global release on October 12, 2013. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 22:02, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
::Yeah, so after all it is not a sub or 'translation'. And even if they weren't released on the same day, they wouldn't be. Because they went through development at the same time. And I'm not bringing up irrelevant things, because I replied to the second sentence said by HoennMaster, and the first one answered the first question. So if anything said by me was irrelevant, then it is al HM's doing, because then his second sentence was irrelevant, and the second sentence of HM led to all of my comments. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 19:10, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Just my two cents to hopefully wind this argument down: Much of the confusion seems to have stemmed from the fact that Phoenixon and HoennMaster were using "sub" as in "sub-boxes" to mean "boxes within boxes" within the "Debut" field in the infobox, and Nickvang was using a non-standard definition of "sub" to mean "a version that is derivational of the original version", and neither of you fully/clearly explained your choice of words to the other, so I think there was confusion as to what people were trying to say. Nickvang, HoennMaster appears to think you were bringing up "irrelevant" things because the article was entirely about the template until you brought up developmental things with a different use of the word "sub".
:::I know that explaining everything step-by-step here probably sounds a little condescending, but I really don't mean it like that; it just seems like both sides are misunderstanding what the other's saying, so I thought it would be helpful to clarify how I see it. Sorry if this is intruding on the conversation. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:58, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

== New Pokémon ? ==
I actually found this "new Pokémon" accidentally and I don't know if this Pokémon are coming in Generation VI. It's possible, but I don't know. Here are the three sources I found from "possible" Pokémon from Gneeration VI:
*https://www.facebook.com/NotoriousNoctowl - As pre-evolution from Drowzee.
*http://pokejungle.net/2013/04/02/wtfake-first-light-type-pokemon-revealed/ - One Pokémon is fake according to this source and another Pokémon, the first evolution from Sableye.
*http://jackfrostoverland.deviantart.com/art/News-about-the-6th-4-News-Pokemon-356563600

As I said before, I don't know if this Pokémon are new, but it would be great to hear so. --[[User:Station7|Station7]] ([[User talk:Station7|talk]]) 12:59, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
:"April 2, 2013" - yeaaaah... I saw that bird picture posted as an April Fools' material. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 13:07, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
::The Drowzee pre-evolution is fake. The Pokejungle page is actually explaining how we know it is fake, so I'm confused why you even linked this. The deviantArt post mentions that he now knows they are fake anyway. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:13, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
:::I don't speak Japanese, so I didn't know if they were real or fake. That's why I linked all those pages here. --[[User:Station7|Station7]] ([[User talk:Station7|talk]]) 14:14, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
::::But all the linked pages were in English. You don't need to read the Japanese to understand them. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:30, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

== Advances in Gameplay ==

There are a few more, like Pokemon-Amie and Fairy type. Under Pokemon it could also say "At least <nowiki>{{numpkmn}}</nowiki>". [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 00:45, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

== article count if off ==

The article still says 13 new Pokémon, the count so far is 19 [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 13:15, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
:It's automated. It lists the number of articles we have in the {{cat|Generation VI Pokémon}} category. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:05, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Weird, for some reason it kept showing up as 13, which it was the last count before the other 6 Pokémon were added. Oh well, its 19 now so that's all that counts. I guess it was some weird Tech crap dealing with cache or some other technical problem with chrome. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 16:19, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

== Leaked info ==

[[http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/244478/412#bbspost24680777_post_text| Leaked Pokémon info]] Hopefully they don't lose their job over this... So if this is correct, that means this generation will be the first to feature a Fire/Dragon, Fire/Psychic (starter type), and a few other new combinations. What are your thoughts of this? ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 01:03, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
:As a matter of policy, Bulbapedia doesn't post leaks or rumors until they're substantiated by official Nintendo/Game Freak/TPCi/etc confirmation. If you're just looking for discussion, you should go to the forums, because talk pages are meant solely for discussion of how to improve the article. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 01:37, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
::Will keep that in mind, apologies about that. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 01:46, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Just to clear things up before anyone gets confused: Gen5 introduced the first Fire/Dragon type Pokémon: Reshiram. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 16:55, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
::::Actually, that's wrong, Reshiram's typing is Dragon/Fire, there hasn't been a Fire type with a secondary Dragon type as of yet [[User:Azure42|Azure/ChromeVoid42]] ([[User talk:Azure42|talk]]) 16:57, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
:::::The so-called 'leaked info' is false and pure fan speculation. Note how they claim {{p|Scatterbug}} and {{p|Spewpa}} would be part-{{t|Fairy}}, yet both are pure {{t|Bug}}-types instead. Wouldn't you think that if they were an insider, they would have predicted the types correctly? --[[User:Relicant|'''Reli'''★'''ジーランス''']]'''?''' 17:05, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
::::::Azure42, I hope you understand that Fire/Dragon and Dragon/Fire are considered the same type combination by game mechanics. The Pokémon will get the same STABs, weaknesses and resistances. And still, it is quite confusing to say that Fire/Dragon is a new type-combination, without nothing you also count the order of the types. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 17:30, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Actually that's wrong, by that logic Helioptile is Normal/Electric, which is wrong as it's the first to have Normal as its Secondary type, the order can specify if it's an original type combination. It's general syntax, so instead of saying that it's the first Fire/Dragon, the trivia would note that it's the first Fire type to have Dragon as a Secondary type [[User:Azure42|Azure/ChromeVoid42]] ([[User talk:Azure42|talk]]) 17:49, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
::::::::[[List of Pokémon with unique type combinations|Bulbapedia considers Dragon/Fire and Fire/Dragon to be the same combination in terms of uniqueness, as they share the same battle properties.]] - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 18:13, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
::::::::oh...okay then my bad everyone [[User:Azure42|Azure/ChromeVoid42]] ([[User talk:Azure42|talk]]) 18:20, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::However, just to wrap things up, Bulbapedia could note it when a type is used as a pure, secondary or primary type for the first time. But in that case, the type combination itself is of no importance at all. (Tornadus is the first pure Flying-type, Noivern is the first Pokémon to have Flying as its primary type and Helioptile is the first Pokémon to have Normal as its secondary type.) [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 20:13, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

== Only natural hair color so far. ==

Did anyone notice that all of the characters confirmed until now only had real-existing, natural hair colors? Calem has brown hair, Serena dark blonde, Shauna brown, Tierno black (if it isn't a hat...), Trevor brownish-red, Alexa brown and Viola brownish-blonde. All of these hair colors exist in real life (without needing paint). I'm only doubting about the lass, does she have blonde or green hair? So, could it be noted that all confirmed characters until now have natural hair colors, or do we need to wait until we know the hair color of every single character from generation six before adding anything at all? [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 17:05, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
:I don't think that's particularly notable at all. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 17:07, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
::Well, I'm sure it would be notable if this was the first ever generation to only release characters with natural hair-colors. I mean, the characters are anime, so pink, blue, green, purple, whatever hair-colors are normal. That's why it would be notable if this generation only introduced characters with brown, black, grey, red and blonde hair. Also, all of the eye-colors so far are natural too. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 17:11, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
:::It's not. And the game isn't even out yet. We still have a lot more characters to introduce. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 17:15, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
::::Alright, so I've got an answer to my question: 'we'll have to wait until we see more characters'. However, no one would make this note: 'Generation six is the first ever generation in the whole Pokémon series to only introduce characters with natural, real-existing hair- and eye-colors. This is in contrast to most anime-styled game-series, as they normally contain characters with non-natural, not-existing hair- and eye-colors.' if every character has natural, real-existing hair- and eye-colors? That would be weird, very weird. As some things noted in trivia are far less important! [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 17:25, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
:::::[[:a:File:XY Prerelease PSS lower screen.png|Purple hair isn't natural]]. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 18:06, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

==Fairy Type==

Shouldn't a note about the Fairy-type be added to this page similar to how the Generation II page mentions the introduction of Dark and Steel? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 06:37, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

== More Info ==

Is anyone going to add anything to to this page? I mean I know everything hasn't been revealed about the main games, but the sky battles, hoard battles, the fairy type, the legendary types and more info regarding the pokemon itself, the game itself and more has been released. It should be on here. I mean Pokemon X and Y have more info regarding the new generation than this page itself! And again, I know not everything has been revealed, and won't be for months to come, but what is known and revealed should be updated nicely and neatly on this page! But that is just how I feel. I know eventually It will be updated, but still it looks lame right now! I would do it myself, but I'd rather an admin do it so it won't be removed! {{unsigned|Demers-Vachon}}
:Even if you did intend to do it yourself, you couldn't. The page is locked to everyone except admins to prevent speculation and spam. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:39, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

:: Yes i realized that after, but my I stand by what I said above, it only makes sense. At least to me anyways! :-) {{unsigned|Demers-Vachon}}

== amount of gen 6 pokemon miscounting ==

there are 29 gen 6 pokemon announced right now not 28. [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 20:10, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
:The infobox is automated to give the number of articles in the {{cat|Generation VI Pokémon}} category. There's no need to bring the matter up on the talk page, as there's literally no way for us to change the number except by making/removing articles; if you see a problem like this, you should instead identify the Pokémon that isn't included and ask that its article be created. In this case, it seems the problem is that [[User:S2daam/Oorotto (Pokémon)|Oorotto]] is still in the userspace because it hasn't had much info (including its Sugimori art) revealed, so it's not counting toward the number of articles in the category. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 20:19, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

== Edit request: GenInfo ==

<nowiki>|storage={{pkmn|Bank}}</nowiki> - [[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]] 18:59, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

==Protection==

Can the indefinite protection be removed please. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 06:30, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

== Sprites ==

Is hard to get a imagen capture of a 3D model? --[[User:HoopsterJohn|HoopsterJohn]] ([[User talk:HoopsterJohn|talk]]) 00:45, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
:Beyond taking pictures, which are generally of unsuitable quality, the only way to get sprites from 3DS games is to use a capture device, which are very expensive, and most people don't have them. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 00:49, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
::Why don't we get the sprites from Serebii or ask them where they got them? --[[User:Togekiss4ever|Togekiss4ever]] ([[User talk:Togekiss4ever|talk]]) 05:59, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
:::We can't take Serebii's sprites because he does not allow us to. He got them because he has the type of capture device Funktastic mentioned above. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:05, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

== Would this be Trivia worthy? ==

Generation VI introduced the least amount of Legendary Pokémon with only 3.

--[[User:Ditto51|Tom]] ([[User_Talk:Ditto51|My Talk Page]]) 11:39, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
:Wait for event legends (even though there's supposedly three).--[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 12:33, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

== inverse battle ==

--[[User:Darkmaster|Darkmaster]] ([[User talk:Darkmaster|talk]]) 21:14, 2 November 2013 (UTC)Shouldn't inverse battles be include with the new battle formats? Can an admin please include this style?

Also, can one or another admin please change:

<code><nowiki>Like previous generations, the first installments, [[Pokémon X and Y]], will be released as a pair.</nowiki></code>

into:

<code><nowiki>It is about the first installments, [[Pokémon X and Y]], which was released as a pair.</nowiki></code>

[[User:SaturnMario|SaturnMario]], [[User talk:SaturnMario|his talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/SaturnMario|his contributions]] 21:47, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

I have not found inverse battle format anywhere in other games, making it a new format. Can someone PLEASE include it in the new battle formats?--[[User:Darkmaster|Darkmaster]] ([[User talk:Darkmaster|talk]]) 19:36, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

please?--[[User:Darkmaster|Darkmaster]] ([[User talk:Darkmaster|talk]]) 02:54, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Now that the page has become unprotected, I have added it on myself. Thank you for unprotecting the page, whover did it. To everyone else, thanks for nothing.[[User:Darkmaster|Darkmaster]] ([[User talk:Darkmaster|talk]]) 00:30, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

== Trivia for the Generation? ==

I think it might be worth noting, that Generation VI is the second Pokemon generation where completing the National Pokedex was impossible until the release of supplemental material (The Pokemon Bank app in this case) due to a lack of ability to directly communicate with the previous generation (the first time this occurred being Generation III, where the supplemental material was Emerald/Kanto Remakes and the Gamecube Games). [[User:Lugia61617|Lugia61617]] ([[User talk:Lugia61617|talk]]) 10:13, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
:Second to do something isn't notable; only first is. I do think, however, that it might be notable that this is the first time in which transfer from past games is (or rather, will be) possible but only with the help of supplemental material. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:35, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
::"Supplemental material" is a bit ambiguous; you need a link cable to transfer between Gen II and III, you need an original DS/DS Lite to transfer between Gen III and IV, you need 2 DS/3DS systems to transfer between Gen IV and V. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:33, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
:::External program, then? This is the first time the requirement is software, right? --[[User:WyndFox|Wynd]] [[User talk:WyndFox|Fox]] 06:26, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

== Move/Ability/Stat changes ==

These are the ones I know off the top of my head.
* {{a|Infiltrator}} now goes through {{m|Substitute}}.
* {{a|Oblivious}} now ignores {{m|Taunt}}.

'Mon that got more base stats (10, as far as I know):
* {{p|Alakazam}}
* {{p|Butterfree}} and {{p|Beedrill}}
* {{p|Ampharos}}
(Serebii has more: http://www.serebii.net/xy/updatedstats.shtml)

Also, 'mon that changed abilities.
* {{p|Chandelure}} replaces its never-actually-available {{a|Shadow Tag}} with {{a|Infiltrator}}.

--[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] ([[User talk:Raijinili|talk]]) 00:44, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

== The name currently in use is NOT a fan designator ==

http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir_english/?m=201301 Check entry No.233 01.21.2013, it says "Pokémon X and Pokémon Y–the evolved sixth generation of Pokémon." towards the end of the press release. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 18:38, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
:Thought I couldn't remove it, but I could, so I removed it. I think we can remove it from gen I-V pages, too. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 09:58, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

::It is a fan designator, other generations use that template so why not? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 10:06, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
:::Did you read what I wrote in the first message? .-. Junichi Masuda called it ""sixth generation". [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 16:43, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
::::It's still a fan name. The sentence was merely saying the games were of the sixth generation of games, not naming them Generation VI. It shows that Masuda uses the term "generation" to describe groups of games; it ''doesn't'' show what he specifically calls each one. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 17:39, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::As Glik said, the Roman numerals are still a fan designator. If anything, this could be a precedent to move all our generation articles to "sixth generation", etc., instead of using Roman numerals. If we did so, though, we would have to make edits to pretty close to every single page on the wiki, though, so I'm not sure how reasonable it would be on such slim evidence. The Roman numerals are a core part of our in-house style's infrastructure. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:45, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
::::::Here in Italy, Roman numerals are read as "first", "second", etc; it appears it's not the case in English-speaking countries. Anyway, do as you wish, the meaning of "Pokémon X and Pokémon Y–the evolved sixth generation of Pokémon." seems quite clear to me, it refers to the games and, obviously, to the Pokémon they introduced. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 14:09, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

== Legendary Pokémon ==

Is this the generation with the fewest Legendary Pokémon ever, or for now? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 05:36, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
:Yes, it has the fewest legendary Pokémon as the three hidden legendary aren't official. Next time, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Generation_VI&curid=26812&diff=2071784&oldid=2071783 do pay attention] to the edit summaries as uses may explain their edits in the summaries.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:38, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
::There's still no reason for us to go out of the way to state something that, while not yet officially wrong, is still likely to be wrong. I strongly think it would be better for us to just not say one way or the other until either they're revealed or Gen 6 ends. We do not suffer at all by omitting a trivium about something as negligible as which generation has the fewest Legendaries, but we ''do'' suffer lowered credibility when something we say is later proven objectively false. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:42, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Generation VI

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Talk:Generation VI

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Generation VI

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The '''sixth generation''' of Pokémon is the sixth installment of the Pokémon series. Like previous generations, the first installments, [[Pokémon X and Y]], were released as a pair. For the first time in the main series, the games are in full 3D and were released worldwide in October 12, 2013 for the [[Nintendo 3DS]].

[[Kalos]], the region introduced in this generation, continues the trend of being based in a real-life world location outside of Japan, started by Generation V. This time, the region is based in {{wp|France}}.

The Generation VI games are able to communicate with the four [[Generation V]] games when the storage-based online application [[Pokémon Bank]] is launched to the public starting from December 25, 2013 in Japan.

X and Y occur in an undisclosed amount of time after any game. [[Looker]], who has made appearances in [[Generation IV]] and [[Generation V]] games, is found in Kalos.

==Advances in gameplay==
The advancements introduced in Generation VI include:
* The addition of {{cat|Generation VI Pokémon|69 new Pokémon}}, bringing the total to 718. Only one evolution from a Pokémon featured in a previous generation is found, being a new {{p|Eevee}} evolution.
* The addition of a new [[type]], the {{t|Fairy}} type, bringing the total to 18. The last time that a new type had been introduced was in [[Generation II]].
* The addition of 53 new [[move]]s, bringing the total to 609.
* The addition of 24 new [[Ability|Abilities]], bringing the total to 188.
* The games now feature a completely three dimensional environment, as well as a new 3D battle system with 3D models for Pokémon as opposed to 2D sprites.
* A new battle mechanic, [[Mega Evolution]], which can only happen during a battle and will wear off once the battle ends. This is only available for certain Pokémon.
* Yet another region to explore, the [[Kalos]] region, far away from the previous five and based on {{wp|France}}.
* A new [[Villainous teams|villainous team]], [[Team Flare]], whose goal is to make money and create a beautiful world for themselves and eliminate all who don't meet their standards.
* The ability for the {{player}} to walk in an 8 directional grid as opposed to the 4 directional grid that has been common in all the preceding games.
* Three new battle modes:
** A new battle mode called [[Sky Battle]]s, where only certain {{type|Flying}} Pokémon, or those whose Ability is {{a|Levitate}} can participate.
** Another battle mode called [[Horde Encounter]]s, where multiple [[wild Pokémon]] will engage in a battle against one of the player's Pokémon.
**The third format is known as an [[Inverse Battle]], which completely reverses [[Type chart|type matchups]].
* The addition of [[Super Training]], a way to increase a Pokémon's [[EV]]s.
* The addition of [[Trainer customization|customization]] for the player, with the ability to choose a variety of outfits to wear at any time.
* The new [[Pokémon Bank]], an online Nintendo 3DS application that will allow the storage of up to 3000 Pokémon through the payment of an annual fee.
* [[TM]]s have been expanded from 95 to 100.

===Alterations from Generation V===
* The abandonment of the [[Pokémon Musical]] and the [[Pokémon World Tournament]].
* Badges are once again needed in order to use [[HM]] {{OBP|field move|main series}}s.
* {{DL|Tall grass|Dark grass}} is no longer found.
* The abandonment of [[seasons]].
* The abandonment of [[Pokémon outbreak]]s.
* A change in the types of three moves ({{m|Charm}}, {{m|Moonlight}} and {{m|Sweet Kiss}}). All formerly {{type|Normal}}, they are now {{type|Fairy}}.
* The addition of {{t|Fairy}} as a pure type for {{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}, {{p|Cleffa}}, {{p|Togepi}}, {{p|Snubbull}} and {{p|Granbull}}, primary type for {{p|Togetic}} and {{p|Togekiss}} and secondary type for {{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}, {{p|Mr. Mime}}, {{p|Igglybuff}}, {{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}, {{p|Ralts}}, {{p|Kirlia}}, {{p|Gardevoir}}, {{p|Azurill}}, {{p|Mawile}}, {{p|Mime Jr.}}, {{p|Cottonee}} and {{p|Whimsicott}}.
* Twenty-eight Pokémon from earlier generations receive a 10-point increase in one of their base stats. They are {{p|Butterfree}}, {{p|Beedrill}}, {{p|Pidgeot}}, {{p|Raichu}}, {{p|Nidoqueen}}, {{p|Nidoking}}, {{p|Clefable}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}, {{p|Vileplume}}, {{p|Poliwrath}}, {{p|Alakazam}}, {{p|Victreebel}}, {{p|Golem}}, {{p|Ampharos}}, {{p|Bellossom}}, {{p|Azumarill}}, {{p|Jumpluff}}, {{p|Beautifly}}, {{p|Exploud}}, {{p|Staraptor}}, {{p|Roserade}}, {{p|Stoutland}}, {{p|Unfezant}}, {{p|Gigalith}}, {{p|Seismitoad}}, {{p|Leavanny}}, {{p|Scolipede}}, and {{p|Krookodile}}.
** {{p|Pikachu}} receives a 10-point increase each in two of its base stats.
*Pokémon can [[evolution|evolve]] after a battle even if they are fainted or if the player lost.
* The [[type chart]] has slightly changed from Generation V:

{| style="text-align:center; background: #{{y color}}; {{roundy|10px}} border: 3px solid #{{x color}}"
|-
! Attacking type
! Defending type
! Old effectiveness
! New effectiveness
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="background:#{{ghost color}}" | {{typecolor|Ghost}}
| style="background:#{{steel color}}" | {{typecolor|Steel}}
| {{DL|Damage modification|Not very effective}}
| [[Damage modification#Type effectiveness|Normal effectiveness]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="background:#{{dark color}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{typecolor|Dark}}
| style="background:#{{steel color}}" | {{typecolor|Steel}}
| {{DL|Damage modification|Not very effective}}
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}" | [[Damage modification#Type effectiveness|Normal effectiveness]]
|} 

==Region==
===Kalos===
[[File:Kalos XY.png|thumb|250px|Kalos]]
{{main|Kalos}}
Like previous generations, another new region, the [[Kalos]] region, is introduced in [[Pokémon X and Y]]. Like the previous region, Kalos has no close ties with any other region.

====Starter Pokémon====
The starters of the sixth Generation, like the starters of the previous five generations, follow the {{t|Grass}}/{{t|Fire}}/{{t|Water}} trio setup. At the beginning of the game, the player must choose between the Grass-type {{p|Chespin}}, the Fire-type {{p|Fennekin}} and the Water-type {{p|Froakie}}.

====Gym Leaders====
Like the other five regions, Kalos has its own set of eight Gym Leaders. Like always, Badges and TMs are given away by defeated Gym Leaders.
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{kalos color dark}}; border: 4px solid #{{kalos color dark}};" colspan=4 cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #{{kalos color dark}};" colspan="4" | {{color2|{{kalos color light}}|Kalos League}}
|-
! style="background: #{{kalos color dark}};" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{kalos color light}}|Generation VI}}
! style="background: #{{kalos color dark}};" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{kalos color light}}|Region|Region:}} {{color2|{{kalos color light}}|Kalos}}
|-
! style="background: #{{kalos color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color|{{kalos color dark}}|Gym Leader Japanese}}
! style="background: #{{kalos color light}};" | {{color|{{kalos color dark}}|Location Japanese}}
! style="background: #{{kalos color light}};" | {{color2|{{kalos color dark}}|Type}}
! style="background: #{{kalos color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|{{kalos color dark}}|Badge}}
{{gldr|type=Bug|pic=VSViola.png|ldr=Viola|djap=ビオラ|drm=Viola|loc=Santalune City|cjap=ハクダンシティ|crm=Hakudan City|bdg=Bug|size=150px}}
{{gldr|type=Rock|pic=VSGrant.png|ldr=Grant|djap=ザクロ|drm=Zakuro|loc=Cyllage City|cjap=ショウヨウシティ|crm=Shouyou City|bdg=Cliff|size=150px}}
{{gldr|type=Fighting|pic=VSKorrina.png|ldr=Korrina|djap=コルニ|drm=Koruni|loc=Shalour City|cjap=シャラシティ|crm=Shara City||bdg=Rumble|size=150px}}
{{gldr|type=Grass|pic=VSRamos.png|ldr=Ramos|djap=フクジ|drm=Fukuji|loc=Coumarine City|cjap=ヒヨクシティ|crm=Hiyoku City|bdg=Plant|size=150px}}
{{gldr|type=Electric|pic=VSClemont.png|ldr=Clemont|djap=シトロン|drm=Citron|loc=Lumiose City|cjap=ミアレシティ|crm=Miare City|bdg=Voltage|size=150px}}
{{gldr|type=Fairy|pic=VSValerie.png|ldr=Valerie|djap=マーシュ|drm=Mache|loc=Laverre City|cjap=クノエシティ|crm=Kunoe City|bdg=Fairy|size=150px}}
{{gldr|type=Psychic|pic=VSOlympia.png|ldr=Olympia|djap=ゴジカ|drm=Gojika|loc=Anistar City|cjap=ヒャッコクシティ|crm=Hyakkoku City|bdg=Psychic|size=150px}}
{{gldrb|type=Ice|pic=VSWulfric.png|ldr=Wulfric|djap=ウルップ|drm=Urup|loc=Snowbelle City|cjap=エイセツシティ|crm=Eisetsu City|bdg=Iceberg|size=150px}}
|}

==Trivia==
* Generation VI introduced the fewest Pokémon to the series, with only 69.
* Generation VI introduced the fewest moves to the series, with only 53.
* Generation VI introduced the fewest Abilities to the series, with only 24.
* Generation VI is the only generation that did not introduce:
** A {{2t|Water|Flying}} Pokémon.
** A {{2t|Bug|Poison}} Pokémon.
** A [[Gym Leader]] or [[Elite Four]] member specializing in {{type|Ghost}} Pokémon.
** A new [[Legendary trio]].
** A new type of [[Poké Ball]].
** A [[department store]].
* Generation VI is the only generation which contains games (except [[remake]]s) in which some Gym Leaders hand out TMs containing moves from older generations.
* Generation VI relieved restrictions on formatting that were evident in previous generations:
** The names of all Pokémon introduced before Generation VI were no more than 10 characters long.
** The names of all [[move]]s, [[item]]s and {{Abilities}} introduced before Generation VI were no more than 12 characters long, including any spaces. Some of these names were re-formatted. For example, Selfdestruct became {{m|Self-Destruct}}.

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Horde Encounter

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[[File:XY Prerelease Axew horde.png|220px|thumb|A horde of Axew]]
[[File:XY Prerelease Tauros horde.png|220px|thumb|A mixed-species horde of {{p|Tauros}} and {{p|Miltank}}]]
A '''Horde Encounter''' (Japanese: '''群れバトル''' ''Herd Battle'') is a type of [[Pokémon battle]] introduced in {{g|X and Y}}. Horde Encounters consist of the appearance of a group of five [[wild Pokémon]]. Unlike wild [[Double Battles]], Pokémon in a horde are usually of the same species, but may include a single instance of a similar Pokémon or counterpart of a different species.

Pokémon in hordes are at approximately half the [[level]] of other Pokémon in the same area and in some routes may be a lower [[evolution]]ary stage of Pokémon that normally inhabit the area (such as a horde of {{p|Geodude}} occurring in areas dominated by {{p|Graveler}}). Pokémon encountered in hordes may also have their [[Hidden Ability]]. Some Pokémon can only be found in hordes.

Hordes are encountered randomly by running through the [[tall grass]], or they can be forcefully initiated using [[Honey]] or {{m|Sweet Scent}}; however, Honey and Sweet Scent cannot be used unless the weather is clear in the overworld. As in all wild battles, a Trainer cannot throw a [[Poké Ball]] unless there is only one wild Pokémon remaining.

The player's moves in a Horde Encounter act as if the player was in the center of a [[Triple Battle]], except with all five other locations being treated as opponents instead of allies. A move like {{m|Tackle}} would only be able to hit one opponent, while a move like {{m|Rock Slide}} would be able to hit all five.

==Mixed hordes==
In all cases of mixed hordes, four of one Pokémon species will appear, joined by one of another species.

*A {{p|Tauros}} horde may include one {{p|Miltank}}, and vice-versa.
*A {{p|Trevenant}} horde may include one {{p|Sudowoodo}}.
*A {{p|Seviper}} horde may include one {{p|Zangoose}}, and vice-versa.
*A {{p|Nidoran♂}} horde may include one {{p|Nidoran♀}}, and vice-versa.
*A {{p|Roggenrola}} horde may include one {{p|Carbink}}.
*A {{p|Durant}} horde may include one {{p|Heatmor}}, and vice-versa.
*A {{p|Plusle}} horde may include one {{p|Minun}}, and vice-versa.

===Mixed hordes with enemy species===
If a mixed horde includes {{p|Zangoose}} and {{p|Seviper}} or {{p|Heatmor}} and {{p|Durant}}, the wild Pokémon will ignore the player's Pokémon; instead, each Pokémon will attack the Pokémon of the other species with the exception of status moves. Once all the Pokémon of one species have fainted, the rest of the horde will begin attacking the player's Pokémon.

Unlike in Triple Battles, there is no range limit; a Pokémon in a far-left position can attack a Pokémon in a far-right position.

== List of Horde Encounters ==
{{incomplete|section|needs details on specific parts of caves ＆ routes}}
{{catch/header|X|2}}
{{catch/div|cave|{{color2|000|Connecting Cave}}}}
{{catch/entry6|293|Whismur|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|7|all=Common|type1=normal}}
{{catch/entry6|041|Zubat|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|8|all=Average|type1=poison|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entry6|610|Axew|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|7-8|all=Rare|type1=dragon}}
{{catch/div|cave|{{color2|000|Reflection Cave}}}}
{{catch/entry6|439|Mime Jr.|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|11|all=Common|type1=psychic|type2=fairy}}
{{catch/entry6|524|Roggenrola|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|11|all=Average|type1=rock}}
{{catch/entry6|524|Roggenrola|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|11|all={{tt|Rare|4 will appear}} with Carbink|type1=rock}}
{{catch/entry6|703|Carbink|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|11|all={{tt|Rare|Only 1 will appear}} with Roggenrola|type1=rock|type2=fairy}}
{{catch/div|land|{{color2|000|Azure Bay}} - Grass}}
{{catch/entry6|079|Slowpoke|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|13|all=Average|type1=water|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/entry6|102|Exeggcute|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|14|all=Rare|type1=grass|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/entry6|278|Wingull|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|13|all=Common|type1=water|type2=flying}}
{{catch/div|cave|{{color2|000|Frost Cave}} - All Floors}}
{{catch/entry6|238|Smoochum|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|21|all=Rare|type1=ice|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/entry6|582|Vanillite|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|20|all=Common|type1=ice}}
{{catch/entry6|613|Cubchoo|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|20|all=Average|type1=ice}}
{{catch/div|land|{{color2|000|Pokémon Village}} - All Flowers & Surfing}}
{{catch/entry6|060|Poliwag|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|25|all=Average|type1=water}}
{{catch/entry6|271|Lombre|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|25|all=Rare|type1=water|type2=grass}}
{{catch/entry6|590|Foongus|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|25|all=Common|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/div|cave|{{color2|000|Victory Road (Kalos)|Victory Road}} - inside and out}}
{{catch/entry6|074|Geodude|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|28|all=Common|type1=rock|type2=ground}}
{{catch/entry6|075|Graveler|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|29|all=Average|type1=rock|type2=ground}}
{{catch/entry6|108|Lickitung|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|30|all=Rare|type1=normal}}
{{catch/entry6|419|Floatzel|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|29|all=Average|type1=water}}
{{catch/div|cave|{{color2|000|Terminus Cave}} - all floors}}
{{catch/entry6|304|Aron|yes|no|Horde Encounter|23|all=Rare|type1=steel|type2=rock}}
{{catch/entry6|632|Durant|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|23|all=Common|type1=bug|type2=steel}}
{{catch/entry6|074|Geodude|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|23|all=Average|type1=rock|type2=ground}}
{{catch/entry6|246|Larvitar|no|yes|Horde Encounter|23|all=Rare|type1=Rock|type2=ground}}
{{catch/div|land|{{color2|000|Kalos Route 5|Route 5}} - Flowered Areas}}
{{catch/entry6|311|Plusle|yes|yes|Grass/Purple Flowers|6|all={{tt|Rare|4 in X, 1 in Y}} with Minun|type1=electric}}
{{catch/entry6|312|Minun|yes|yes|Grass/Purple Flowers|6|all={{tt|Rare|1 in X, 4 in Y}} with Plusle|type1=electric}}
{{catch/entry6|316|Gulpin|yes|yes|Grass/Purple Flowers|5|all=Common|type1=poison}}
{{catch/entry6|559|Scraggy|yes|yes|Grass/Purple Flowers|5|all=Average|type1=dark|type2=fighting}}
{{catch/div|land|{{color2|000|Kalos Route 7|Route 7}} - All areas}}
{{catch/entry6|054|Psyduck|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|8|all=Average|type1=water}}
{{catch/entry6|187|Hoppip|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|7|all=Common|type1=grass|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entry6|315|Roselia|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|7|all=Rare|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/div|land|{{color2|000|Kalos Route 8|Route 8}} - all areas}}
{{catch/entry6|276|Taillow|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|7|all=Rare|type1=normal|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entry6|278|Wingull|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|7|all=Common|type1=water|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entry6|335|Zangoose|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|8|all={{tt|Average|4 in X and 1 in Y}} with Seviper|type1=normal}}
{{catch/entry6|336|Seviper|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|8|all={{tt|Average|1 in X and 4 in Y}} with Zangoose|type1=poison}}
{{catch/div|land|{{color2|000|Kalos Route 10|Route 10}}}}
{{catch/entry6|193|Yanma|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|10|all=Average|type1=bug|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entry6|228|Houndour|yes|no|Horde Encounter|10|all=Rare|type1=Dark|type2=Fire}}
{{catch/entry6|299|Nosepass|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|10|all=Common|type1=Rock}}
{{catch/entry6|309|Electrike|no|yes|Horde Encounter|10|all=Rare|type1=electric}}
{{catch/div|mountain|{{color2|000|Kalos Route 11|Route 11}}}}
{{catch/entry6|029|Nidoran♀|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|11|all={{tt|Common|Only 1 will appear}} with Nidoran♂|type1=poison}}
{{catch/entry6|032|Nidoran♂|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|11|all={{tt|Common|4 will appear}} with Nidoran♀|type1=poison}}
{{catch/entry6|396|Starly|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|11-12|all=Rare|type1=normal|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entry6|434|Stunky|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|11|all=Average|type1=poison|type2=dark}}
{{catch/div|land|{{color2|000|Kalos Route 12|Route 12}}}}
{{catch/entry6|128|Tauros|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|13|all={{tt|?|4 will appear}} with Miltank|type1=normal}}
{{catch/entry6|179|Mareep|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|13|all=?|type1=electric}}
{{catch/entry6|241|Miltank|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|13|all={{tt|?|Only 1 will appear}} with Tauros|type1=normal}}
{{catch/entry6|278|Wingull|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|13|all=?|type1=water|type2=flying}}
{{catch/div|marsh|{{color2|000|Kalos Route 14|Route 14}}}}
{{catch/entry6|023|Ekans|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|17|all=Rare|type1=poison}}
{{catch/entry6|069|Bellsprout|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|16|all=Common|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entry6|451|Skorupi|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|16|all=Average|type1=poison|type2=bug}}
{{catch/div|land|{{color2|000|Kalos Route 15|Route 15}} & {{color2|000|Kalos Route 16|16}}}}
{{catch/entry6|198|Murkrow|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|18|all=Common|type1=dark|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry6|590|Foongus|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|18|all=Average|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entry6|707|Klefki|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|19|all=Rare|type1=steel|type2=fairy}}
{{catch/div|land|{{color2|000|Kalos Route 18|Route 18}}}}
{{catch/entry6|074|Geodude|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|23|all=Common|type1=rock|type2=ground}}
{{catch/entry6|631|Heatmor|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|24|all={{tt|Rare|Only 1 will appear}} with Durant|type1=Fire}}
{{catch/entry6|632|Durant|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|23|all=Average|type1=bug|type2=steel}}
{{catch/entry6|632|Durant|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|24|all={{tt|Rare|4 will appear}} with Heatmor|type1=bug|type2=steel}}
{{catch/div|land|{{color2|000|Kalos Route 19|Route 19}}}}
{{catch/entry6|024|Arbok|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|25|all=Rare|type1=poison}}
{{catch/entry6|070|Weepinbell|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|24|all=Common|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entry6|207|Gligar|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|24|all=Average|type1=ground|type2=flying}}
{{catch/div|forest|{{color2|000|Kalos Route 20|Route 20}}}}
{{catch/entry6|185|Sudowoodo|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|25|all={{tt|Rare|Only 1 will appear}} with Trevenant|type1=rock}}
{{catch/entry6|590|Foongus|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|25|all=Common|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entry6|709|Trevenant|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|25|all=Average|type1=ghost|type2=grass}}
{{catch/entry6|709|Trevenant|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|25|all={{tt|Rare|4 will appear}} with Sudowoodo|type1=ghost|type2=grass}}
{{catch/div|land|{{color2|000|Kalos Route 21|Route 21}}}}
{{catch/entry6|123|Scyther|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|27|all=Rare|type1=bug|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entry6|327|Spinda|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|26|all=Common|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry6|333|Swablu|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|26|all=Average|type1=normal|type2=flying}}
{{catch/footer|X}}

==In other languages==
{{langtable|color={{grass color}}|bordercolor={{grass color dark}}
|de=Massenbegegnungen
|es=Encuentros de horda
|fr=Rencontres de Horde
|it=Gruppi di Pokémon
|ko=무리배틀 ''Muli Battle''
}}

{{-}}
{{battle}} 
{{Project Games notice|game mechanic}}

[[Category:Terminology]]
[[Category:Game mechanics]]

[[fr:Horde de Pokémon]]
[[de:Mehrfachkämpfe#Massenbegegnungen]]
[[it:Gruppi di Pokémon]]

Horde Encounter

2014-02-07T13:42:10Z

Shepeedy: /* List of Horde Encounters */

[[File:XY Prerelease Axew horde.png|220px|thumb|A horde of Axew]]
[[File:XY Prerelease Tauros horde.png|220px|thumb|A mixed-species horde of {{p|Tauros}} and {{p|Miltank}}]]
A '''Horde Encounter''' (Japanese: '''群れバトル''' ''Herd Battle'') is a type of [[Pokémon battle]] introduced in {{g|X and Y}}. Horde Encounters consist of the appearance of a group of five [[wild Pokémon]]. Unlike wild [[Double Battles]], Pokémon in a horde are usually of the same species, but may include a single instance of a similar Pokémon or counterpart of a different species.

Pokémon in hordes are at approximately half the [[level]] of other Pokémon in the same area and in some routes may be a lower [[evolution]]ary stage of Pokémon that normally inhabit the area (such as a horde of {{p|Geodude}} occurring in areas dominated by {{p|Graveler}}). Pokémon encountered in hordes may also have their [[Hidden Ability]]. Some Pokémon can only be found in hordes.

Hordes are encountered randomly by running through the [[tall grass]], or they can be forcefully initiated using [[Honey]] or {{m|Sweet Scent}}; however, Honey and Sweet Scent cannot be used unless the weather is clear in the overworld. As in all wild battles, a Trainer cannot throw a [[Poké Ball]] unless there is only one wild Pokémon remaining.

The player's moves in a Horde Encounter act as if the player was in the center of a [[Triple Battle]], except with all five other locations being treated as opponents instead of allies. A move like {{m|Tackle}} would only be able to hit one opponent, while a move like {{m|Rock Slide}} would be able to hit all five.

==Mixed hordes==
In all cases of mixed hordes, four of one Pokémon species will appear, joined by one of another species.

*A {{p|Tauros}} horde may include one {{p|Miltank}}, and vice-versa.
*A {{p|Trevenant}} horde may include one {{p|Sudowoodo}}.
*A {{p|Seviper}} horde may include one {{p|Zangoose}}, and vice-versa.
*A {{p|Nidoran♂}} horde may include one {{p|Nidoran♀}}, and vice-versa.
*A {{p|Roggenrola}} horde may include one {{p|Carbink}}.
*A {{p|Durant}} horde may include one {{p|Heatmor}}, and vice-versa.
*A {{p|Plusle}} horde may include one {{p|Minun}}, and vice-versa.

===Mixed hordes with enemy species===
If a mixed horde includes {{p|Zangoose}} and {{p|Seviper}} or {{p|Heatmor}} and {{p|Durant}}, the wild Pokémon will ignore the player's Pokémon; instead, each Pokémon will attack the Pokémon of the other species with the exception of status moves. Once all the Pokémon of one species have fainted, the rest of the horde will begin attacking the player's Pokémon.

Unlike in Triple Battles, there is no range limit; a Pokémon in a far-left position can attack a Pokémon in a far-right position.

== List of Horde Encounters ==
{{incomplete|section|needs details on specific parts of caves ＆ routes}}
{{catch/header|X|2}}
{{catch/div|cave|{{color2|000|Connecting Cave}}}}
{{catch/entry6|293|Whismur|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|7|all=Common|type1=normal}}
{{catch/entry6|041|Zubat|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|8|all=Average|type1=poison|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entry6|610|Axew|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|7-8|all=Rare|type1=dragon}}
{{catch/div|cave|{{color2|000|Reflection Cave}}}}
{{catch/entry6|439|Mime Jr.|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|11|all=Common|type1=psychic|type2=fairy}}
{{catch/entry6|524|Roggenrola|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|11|all=Average|type1=rock}}
{{catch/entry6|524|Roggenrola|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|11|all={{tt|Rare|4 will appear}} with Carbink|type1=rock}}
{{catch/entry6|703|Carbink|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|11|all={{tt|Rare|Only 1 will appear}} with Roggenrola|type1=rock|type2=fairy}}
{{catch/div|land|{{color2|000|Azure Bay}} - Grass}}
{{catch/entry6|079|Slowpoke|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|13|all=Average|type1=water|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/entry6|102|Exeggcute|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|14|all=Rare|type1=grass|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/entry6|278|Wingull|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|13|all=Common|type1=water|type2=flying}}
{{catch/div|cave|{{color2|000|Frost Cave}} - All Floors}}
{{catch/entry6|238|Smoochum|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|21|all=Rare|type1=ice|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/entry6|582|Vanillite|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|20|all=Common|type1=ice}}
{{catch/entry6|613|Cubchoo|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|20|all=Average|type1=ice}}
{{catch/div|land|{{color2|000|Pokémon Village}} - All Flowers & Surfing}}
{{catch/entry6|060|Poliwag|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|25|all=Average|type1=water}}
{{catch/entry6|271|Lombre|yes|yes|Horde Encounter||25|all=Rare|type1=water|type2=grass}}
{{catch/entry6|590|Foongus|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|25|all=Common|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/div|cave|{{color2|000|Victory Road (Kalos)|Victory Road}} - inside and out}}
{{catch/entry6|074|Geodude|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|28|all=Common|type1=rock|type2=ground}}
{{catch/entry6|075|Graveler|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|29|all=Average|type1=rock|type2=ground}}
{{catch/entry6|108|Lickitung|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|30|all=Rare|type1=normal}}
{{catch/entry6|419|Floatzel|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|29|all=Average|type1=water}}
{{catch/div|cave|{{color2|000|Terminus Cave}} - all floors}}
{{catch/entry6|304|Aron|yes|no|Horde Encounter|23|all=Rare|type1=steel|type2=rock}}
{{catch/entry6|632|Durant|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|23|all=Common|type1=bug|type2=steel}}
{{catch/entry6|074|Geodude|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|23|all=Average|type1=rock|type2=ground}}
{{catch/entry6|246|Larvitar|no|yes|Horde Encounter|23|all=Rare|type1=Rock|type2=ground}}
{{catch/div|land|{{color2|000|Kalos Route 5|Route 5}} - Flowered Areas}}
{{catch/entry6|311|Plusle|yes|yes|Grass/Purple Flowers|6|all={{tt|Rare|4 in X, 1 in Y}} with Minun|type1=electric}}
{{catch/entry6|312|Minun|yes|yes|Grass/Purple Flowers|6|all={{tt|Rare|1 in X, 4 in Y}} with Plusle|type1=electric}}
{{catch/entry6|316|Gulpin|yes|yes|Grass/Purple Flowers|5|all=Common|type1=poison}}
{{catch/entry6|559|Scraggy|yes|yes|Grass/Purple Flowers|5|all=Average|type1=dark|type2=fighting}}
{{catch/div|land|{{color2|000|Kalos Route 7|Route 7}} - All areas}}
{{catch/entry6|054|Psyduck|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|8|all=Average|type1=water}}
{{catch/entry6|187|Hoppip|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|7|all=Common|type1=grass|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entry6|315|Roselia|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|7|all=Rare|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/div|land|{{color2|000|Kalos Route 8|Route 8}} - all areas}}
{{catch/entry6|276|Taillow|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|7|all=Rare|type1=normal|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entry6|278|Wingull|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|7|all=Common|type1=water|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entry6|335|Zangoose|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|8|all={{tt|Average|4 in X and 1 in Y}} with Seviper|type1=normal}}
{{catch/entry6|336|Seviper|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|8|all={{tt|Average|1 in X and 4 in Y}} with Zangoose|type1=poison}}
{{catch/div|land|{{color2|000|Kalos Route 10|Route 10}}}}
{{catch/entry6|193|Yanma|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|10|all=Average|type1=bug|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entry6|228|Houndour|yes|no|Horde Encounter|10|all=Rare|type1=Dark|type2=Fire}}
{{catch/entry6|299|Nosepass|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|10|all=Common|type1=Rock}}
{{catch/entry6|309|Electrike|no|yes|Horde Encounter|10|all=Rare|type1=electric}}
{{catch/div|mountain|{{color2|000|Kalos Route 11|Route 11}}}}
{{catch/entry6|029|Nidoran♀|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|11|all={{tt|Common|Only 1 will appear}} with Nidoran♂|type1=poison}}
{{catch/entry6|032|Nidoran♂|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|11|all={{tt|Common|4 will appear}} with Nidoran♀|type1=poison}}
{{catch/entry6|396|Starly|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|11-12|all=Rare|type1=normal|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entry6|434|Stunky|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|11|all=Average|type1=poison|type2=dark}}
{{catch/div|land|{{color2|000|Kalos Route 12|Route 12}}}}
{{catch/entry6|128|Tauros|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|13|all={{tt|?|4 will appear}} with Miltank|type1=normal}}
{{catch/entry6|179|Mareep|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|13|all=?|type1=electric}}
{{catch/entry6|241|Miltank|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|13|all={{tt|?|Only 1 will appear}} with Tauros|type1=normal}}
{{catch/entry6|278|Wingull|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|13|all=?|type1=water|type2=flying}}
{{catch/div|marsh|{{color2|000|Kalos Route 14|Route 14}}}}
{{catch/entry6|023|Ekans|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|17|all=Rare|type1=poison}}
{{catch/entry6|069|Bellsprout|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|16|all=Common|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entry6|451|Skorupi|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|16|all=Average|type1=poison|type2=bug}}
{{catch/div|land|{{color2|000|Kalos Route 15|Route 15}} & {{color2|000|Kalos Route 16|16}}}}
{{catch/entry6|198|Murkrow|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|18|all=Common|type1=dark|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry6|590|Foongus|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|18|all=Average|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entry6|707|Klefki|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|19|all=Rare|type1=steel|type2=fairy}}
{{catch/div|land|{{color2|000|Kalos Route 18|Route 18}}}}
{{catch/entry6|074|Geodude|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|23|all=Common|type1=rock|type2=ground}}
{{catch/entry6|631|Heatmor|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|24|all={{tt|Rare|Only 1 will appear}} with Durant|type1=Fire}}
{{catch/entry6|632|Durant|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|23|all=Average|type1=bug|type2=steel}}
{{catch/entry6|632|Durant|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|24|all={{tt|Rare|4 will appear}} with Heatmor|type1=bug|type2=steel}}
{{catch/div|land|{{color2|000|Kalos Route 19|Route 19}}}}
{{catch/entry6|024|Arbok|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|25|all=Rare|type1=poison}}
{{catch/entry6|070|Weepinbell|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|24|all=Common|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entry6|207|Gligar|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|24|all=Average|type1=ground|type2=flying}}
{{catch/div|forest|{{color2|000|Kalos Route 20|Route 20}}}}
{{catch/entry6|185|Sudowoodo|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|25|all={{tt|Rare|Only 1 will appear}} with Trevenant|type1=rock}}
{{catch/entry6|590|Foongus|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|25|all=Common|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entry6|709|Trevenant|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|25|all=Average|type1=ghost|type2=grass}}
{{catch/entry6|709|Trevenant|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|25|all={{tt|Rare|4 will appear}} with Sudowoodo|type1=ghost|type2=grass}}
{{catch/div|land|{{color2|000|Kalos Route 21|Route 21}}}}
{{catch/entry6|123|Scyther|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|27|all=Rare|type1=bug|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entry6|327|Spinda|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|26|all=Common|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry6|333|Swablu|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|26|all=Average|type1=normal|type2=flying}}
{{catch/footer|X}}

==In other languages==
{{langtable|color={{grass color}}|bordercolor={{grass color dark}}
|de=Massenbegegnungen
|es=Encuentros de horda
|fr=Rencontres de Horde
|it=Gruppi di Pokémon
|ko=무리배틀 ''Muli Battle''
}}

{{-}}
{{battle}} 
{{Project Games notice|game mechanic}}

[[Category:Terminology]]
[[Category:Game mechanics]]

[[fr:Horde de Pokémon]]
[[de:Mehrfachkämpfe#Massenbegegnungen]]
[[it:Gruppi di Pokémon]]

Generation VI

2014-02-05T22:54:29Z

Shepeedy: /* Gym Leaders */

{{Unknown name}}
{{incomplete|article|needs=Japanese title screens}}
{{GenInfo
|image=Pokémon XY logo.png
|size=250px
|caption=Logos of Pokémon X and Y
|titlescreen={{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 2}}|0=X|1=Y}}
|primary=X
|secondary=Y
|region=Kalos
|otherrpg=
|ndex=718
|debuten=October 12, 2013
|debutjp=October 12, 2013
}}

The '''sixth generation''' of Pokémon is the sixth installment of the Pokémon series. Like previous generations, the first installments, [[Pokémon X and Y]], were released as a pair. For the first time in the main series, the games are in full 3D and were released worldwide in October 12, 2013 for the [[Nintendo 3DS]].

[[Kalos]], the region introduced in this generation, continues the trend of being based in a real-life world location outside of Japan, started by Generation V. This time, the region is based in {{wp|France}}.

The Generation VI games are able to communicate with the four [[Generation V]] games when the storage-based online application [[Pokémon Bank]] is launched to the public starting from December 25, 2013 in Japan.

X and Y occur in an undisclosed amount of time after any game. [[Looker]], who has made appearances in [[Generation IV]] and [[Generation V]] games, is found in Kalos.

==Advances in gameplay==
The advancements introduced in Generation VI include:
* The addition of {{cat|Generation VI Pokémon|69 new Pokémon}}, bringing the total to 718. Only one evolution from a Pokémon featured in a previous generation is found, being a new {{p|Eevee}} evolution.
* The addition of a new [[type]], the {{t|Fairy}} type, bringing the total to 18. The last time that a new type had been introduced was in [[Generation II]].
* The addition of 53 new [[move]]s, bringing the total to 609.
* The addition of 24 new [[Ability|Abilities]], bringing the total to 188.
* The games now feature a completely three dimensional environment, as well as a new 3D battle system with 3D models for Pokémon as opposed to 2D sprites.
* A new battle mechanic, [[Mega Evolution]], which can only happen during a battle and will wear off once the battle ends. This is only available for certain Pokémon.
* Yet another region to explore, the [[Kalos]] region, far away from the previous five and based on {{wp|France}}.
* A new [[Villainous teams|villainous team]], [[Team Flare]], whose goal is to make money and create a beautiful world for themselves and eliminate all who don't meet their standards.
* The ability for the {{player}} to walk in an 8 directional grid as opposed to the 4 directional grid that has been common in all the preceding games.
* Three new battle modes:
** A new battle mode called [[Sky Battle]]s, where only certain {{type|Flying}} Pokémon, or those whose Ability is {{a|Levitate}} can participate.
** Another battle mode called [[Horde Encounter]]s, where multiple [[wild Pokémon]] will engage in a battle against one of the player's Pokémon.
**The third format is known as an [[Inverse Battle]], which completely reverses [[Type chart|type matchups]].
* The addition of [[Super Training]], a way to increase a Pokémon's [[EV]]s.
* The addition of [[Trainer customization|customization]] for the player, with the ability to choose a variety of outfits to wear at any time.
* The new [[Pokémon Bank]], an online Nintendo 3DS application that will allow the storage of up to 3000 Pokémon through the payment of an annual fee.
* [[TM]]s have been expanded from 95 to 100.

===Alterations from Generation V===
* The abandonment of the [[Pokémon Musical]] and the [[Pokémon World Tournament]].
* Badges are once again needed in order to use [[HM]] {{OBP|field move|main series}}s.
* {{DL|Tall grass|Dark grass}} is no longer found.
* The abandonment of [[seasons]].
* The abandonment of [[Pokémon outbreak]]s.
* A change in the types of three moves ({{m|Charm}}, {{m|Moonlight}} and {{m|Sweet Kiss}}). All formerly {{type|Normal}}, they are now {{type|Fairy}}.
* The addition of {{t|Fairy}} as a pure type for {{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}, {{p|Cleffa}}, {{p|Togepi}}, {{p|Snubbull}} and {{p|Granbull}}, primary type for {{p|Togetic}} and {{p|Togekiss}} and secondary type for {{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}, {{p|Mr. Mime}}, {{p|Igglybuff}}, {{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}, {{p|Ralts}}, {{p|Kirlia}}, {{p|Gardevoir}}, {{p|Azurill}}, {{p|Mawile}}, {{p|Mime Jr.}}, {{p|Cottonee}} and {{p|Whimsicott}}.
* Twenty-eight Pokémon from earlier generations receive a 10-point increase in one of their base stats. They are {{p|Butterfree}}, {{p|Beedrill}}, {{p|Pidgeot}}, {{p|Raichu}}, {{p|Nidoqueen}}, {{p|Nidoking}}, {{p|Clefable}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}, {{p|Vileplume}}, {{p|Poliwrath}}, {{p|Alakazam}}, {{p|Victreebel}}, {{p|Golem}}, {{p|Ampharos}}, {{p|Bellossom}}, {{p|Azumarill}}, {{p|Jumpluff}}, {{p|Beautifly}}, {{p|Exploud}}, {{p|Staraptor}}, {{p|Roserade}}, {{p|Stoutland}}, {{p|Unfezant}}, {{p|Gigalith}}, {{p|Seismitoad}}, {{p|Leavanny}}, {{p|Scolipede}}, and {{p|Krookodile}}.
** {{p|Pikachu}} receives a 10-point increase each in two of its base stats.
*Pokémon can [[evolution|evolve]] after a battle even if they are fainted or if the player lost.
* The [[type chart]] has slightly changed from Generation V:

{| style="text-align:center; background: #{{y color}}; {{roundy|10px}} border: 3px solid #{{x color}}"
|-
! Attacking type
! Defending type
! Old effectiveness
! New effectiveness
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="background:#{{ghost color}}" | {{typecolor|Ghost}}
| style="background:#{{steel color}}" | {{typecolor|Steel}}
| {{DL|Damage modification|Not very effective}}
| [[Damage modification#Type effectiveness|Normal effectiveness]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="background:#{{dark color}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{typecolor|Dark}}
| style="background:#{{steel color}}" | {{typecolor|Steel}}
| {{DL|Damage modification|Not very effective}}
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}" | [[Damage modification#Type effectiveness|Normal effectiveness]]
|} 

==Region==
===Kalos===
[[File:Kalos XY.png|thumb|250px|Kalos]]
{{main|Kalos}}
Like previous generations, another new region, the [[Kalos]] region, is introduced in [[Pokémon X and Y]]. Like the previous region, Kalos has no close ties with any other region.

====Starter Pokémon====
The starters of the sixth Generation, like the starters of the previous five generations, follow the {{t|Grass}}/{{t|Fire}}/{{t|Water}} trio setup. At the beginning of the game, the player must choose between the Grass-type {{p|Chespin}}, the Fire-type {{p|Fennekin}} and the Water-type {{p|Froakie}}.

====Gym Leaders====
Like the other five regions, Kalos has its own set of eight Gym Leaders. Like always, Badges and TMs are given away by defeated Gym Leaders.
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{kalos color dark}}; border: 4px solid #{{kalos color dark}};" colspan=4 cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #{{kalos color dark}};" colspan="4" | {{color2|{{kalos color light}}|Kalos League}}
|-
! style="background: #{{kalos color dark}};" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{kalos color light}}|Generation VI}}
! style="background: #{{kalos color dark}};" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{kalos color light}}|Region|Region:}} {{color2|{{kalos color light}}|Kalos}}
|-
! style="background: #{{kalos color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color|{{kalos color dark}}|Gym Leader Japanese}}
! style="background: #{{kalos color light}};" | {{color|{{kalos color dark}}|Location Japanese}}
! style="background: #{{kalos color light}};" | {{color2|{{kalos color dark}}|Type}}
! style="background: #{{kalos color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|{{kalos color dark}}|Badge}}
{{gldr|type=Bug|pic=VSViola.png|ldr=Viola|djap=ビオラ|drm=Viola|loc=Santalune City|cjap=ハクダンシティ|crm=Hakudan City|bdg=Bug|size=150px}}
{{gldr|type=Rock|pic=VSGrant.png|ldr=Grant|djap=ザクロ|drm=Zakuro|loc=Cyllage City|cjap=ショウヨウシティ|crm=Shouyou City|bdg=Cliff|size=150px}}
{{gldr|type=Fighting|pic=VSKorrina.png|ldr=Korrina|djap=コルニ|drm=Koruni|loc=Shalour City|cjap=シャラシティ|crm=Shara City||bdg=Rumble|size=150px}}
{{gldr|type=Grass|pic=VSRamos.png|ldr=Ramos|djap=フクジ|drm=Fukuji|loc=Coumarine City|cjap=ヒヨクシティ|crm=Hiyoku City|bdg=Plant|size=150px}}
{{gldr|type=Electric|pic=VSClemont.png|ldr=Clemont|djap=シトロン|drm=Citron|loc=Lumiose City|cjap=ミアレシティ|crm=Miare City|bdg=Voltage|size=150px}}
{{gldr|type=Fairy|pic=VSValerie.png|ldr=Valerie|djap=マーシュ|drm=Mache|loc=Laverre City|cjap=クノエシティ|crm=Kunoe City|bdg=Fairy|size=150px}}
{{gldr|type=Psychic|pic=VSOlympia.png|ldr=Olympia|djap=ゴジカ|drm=Gojika|loc=Anistar City|cjap=ヒャッコクシティ|crm=Hyakkoku City|bdg=Psychic|size=150px}}
{{gldrb|type=Ice|pic=VSWulfric.png|ldr=Wulfric|djap=ウルップ|drm=Urup|loc=Snowbelle City|cjap=エイセツシティ|crm=Eisetsu City|bdg=Iceberg|size=150px}}
|}

==Trivia==
* Generation VI introduced the fewest Pokémon to the series, with only 69.
* Generation VI is the only generation that did not introduce:
** A {{2t|Water|Flying}} Pokémon.
** A {{2t|Bug|Poison}} Pokémon.
** A new [[Legendary trio]].
** A new type of [[Poké Ball]].
* Generation VI is the only generation which contains games (except [[remake]]s) in which some Gym Leaders hand out TMs containing moves from older generations.
* Generation VI relieved restrictions on formatting that were evident in previous generations:
** The names of all Pokémon introduced before Generation VI were no more than 10 characters long.
** The names of all [[move]]s, [[item]]s and {{Abilities}} introduced before Generation VI were no more than 12 characters long, including any spaces. Some of these names were re-formatted. For example, Selfdestruct became {{m|Self-Destruct}}.

{{Core series}} 
{{Project Games notice}}

[[Category:Games]]

[[de:Sechste Spielgeneration]]
[[es:Generación VI]]
[[fr:Sixième génération]]
[[it:Sesta generazione]]
[[ja:第六世代]]
[[zh:第六世代]]

Generation VI

2014-02-05T22:52:48Z

Shepeedy: /* Alterations from Generation V */

{{Unknown name}}
{{incomplete|article|needs=Japanese title screens}}
{{GenInfo
|image=Pokémon XY logo.png
|size=250px
|caption=Logos of Pokémon X and Y
|titlescreen={{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 2}}|0=X|1=Y}}
|primary=X
|secondary=Y
|region=Kalos
|otherrpg=
|ndex=718
|debuten=October 12, 2013
|debutjp=October 12, 2013
}}

The '''sixth generation''' of Pokémon is the sixth installment of the Pokémon series. Like previous generations, the first installments, [[Pokémon X and Y]], were released as a pair. For the first time in the main series, the games are in full 3D and were released worldwide in October 12, 2013 for the [[Nintendo 3DS]].

[[Kalos]], the region introduced in this generation, continues the trend of being based in a real-life world location outside of Japan, started by Generation V. This time, the region is based in {{wp|France}}.

The Generation VI games are able to communicate with the four [[Generation V]] games when the storage-based online application [[Pokémon Bank]] is launched to the public starting from December 25, 2013 in Japan.

X and Y occur in an undisclosed amount of time after any game. [[Looker]], who has made appearances in [[Generation IV]] and [[Generation V]] games, is found in Kalos.

==Advances in gameplay==
The advancements introduced in Generation VI include:
* The addition of {{cat|Generation VI Pokémon|69 new Pokémon}}, bringing the total to 718. Only one evolution from a Pokémon featured in a previous generation is found, being a new {{p|Eevee}} evolution.
* The addition of a new [[type]], the {{t|Fairy}} type, bringing the total to 18. The last time that a new type had been introduced was in [[Generation II]].
* The addition of 53 new [[move]]s, bringing the total to 609.
* The addition of 24 new [[Ability|Abilities]], bringing the total to 188.
* The games now feature a completely three dimensional environment, as well as a new 3D battle system with 3D models for Pokémon as opposed to 2D sprites.
* A new battle mechanic, [[Mega Evolution]], which can only happen during a battle and will wear off once the battle ends. This is only available for certain Pokémon.
* Yet another region to explore, the [[Kalos]] region, far away from the previous five and based on {{wp|France}}.
* A new [[Villainous teams|villainous team]], [[Team Flare]], whose goal is to make money and create a beautiful world for themselves and eliminate all who don't meet their standards.
* The ability for the {{player}} to walk in an 8 directional grid as opposed to the 4 directional grid that has been common in all the preceding games.
* Three new battle modes:
** A new battle mode called [[Sky Battle]]s, where only certain {{type|Flying}} Pokémon, or those whose Ability is {{a|Levitate}} can participate.
** Another battle mode called [[Horde Encounter]]s, where multiple [[wild Pokémon]] will engage in a battle against one of the player's Pokémon.
**The third format is known as an [[Inverse Battle]], which completely reverses [[Type chart|type matchups]].
* The addition of [[Super Training]], a way to increase a Pokémon's [[EV]]s.
* The addition of [[Trainer customization|customization]] for the player, with the ability to choose a variety of outfits to wear at any time.
* The new [[Pokémon Bank]], an online Nintendo 3DS application that will allow the storage of up to 3000 Pokémon through the payment of an annual fee.
* [[TM]]s have been expanded from 95 to 100.

===Alterations from Generation V===
* The abandonment of the [[Pokémon Musical]] and the [[Pokémon World Tournament]].
* Badges are once again needed in order to use [[HM]] {{OBP|field move|main series}}s.
* {{DL|Tall grass|Dark grass}} is no longer found.
* The abandonment of [[seasons]].
* The abandonment of [[Pokémon outbreak]]s.
* A change in the types of three moves ({{m|Charm}}, {{m|Moonlight}} and {{m|Sweet Kiss}}). All formerly {{type|Normal}}, they are now {{type|Fairy}}.
* The addition of {{t|Fairy}} as a pure type for {{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}, {{p|Cleffa}}, {{p|Togepi}}, {{p|Snubbull}} and {{p|Granbull}}, primary type for {{p|Togetic}} and {{p|Togekiss}} and secondary type for {{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}, {{p|Mr. Mime}}, {{p|Igglybuff}}, {{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}, {{p|Ralts}}, {{p|Kirlia}}, {{p|Gardevoir}}, {{p|Azurill}}, {{p|Mawile}}, {{p|Mime Jr.}}, {{p|Cottonee}} and {{p|Whimsicott}}.
* Twenty-eight Pokémon from earlier generations receive a 10-point increase in one of their base stats. They are {{p|Butterfree}}, {{p|Beedrill}}, {{p|Pidgeot}}, {{p|Raichu}}, {{p|Nidoqueen}}, {{p|Nidoking}}, {{p|Clefable}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}, {{p|Vileplume}}, {{p|Poliwrath}}, {{p|Alakazam}}, {{p|Victreebel}}, {{p|Golem}}, {{p|Ampharos}}, {{p|Bellossom}}, {{p|Azumarill}}, {{p|Jumpluff}}, {{p|Beautifly}}, {{p|Exploud}}, {{p|Staraptor}}, {{p|Roserade}}, {{p|Stoutland}}, {{p|Unfezant}}, {{p|Gigalith}}, {{p|Seismitoad}}, {{p|Leavanny}}, {{p|Scolipede}}, and {{p|Krookodile}}.
** {{p|Pikachu}} receives a 10-point increase each in two of its base stats.
*Pokémon can [[evolution|evolve]] after a battle even if they are fainted or if the player lost.
* The [[type chart]] has slightly changed from Generation V:

{| style="text-align:center; background: #{{y color}}; {{roundy|10px}} border: 3px solid #{{x color}}"
|-
! Attacking type
! Defending type
! Old effectiveness
! New effectiveness
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="background:#{{ghost color}}" | {{typecolor|Ghost}}
| style="background:#{{steel color}}" | {{typecolor|Steel}}
| {{DL|Damage modification|Not very effective}}
| [[Damage modification#Type effectiveness|Normal effectiveness]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="background:#{{dark color}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{typecolor|Dark}}
| style="background:#{{steel color}}" | {{typecolor|Steel}}
| {{DL|Damage modification|Not very effective}}
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}" | [[Damage modification#Type effectiveness|Normal effectiveness]]
|} 

==Region==
===Kalos===
[[File:Kalos XY.png|thumb|250px|Kalos]]
{{main|Kalos}}
Like previous generations, another new region, the [[Kalos]] region, is introduced in [[Pokémon X and Y]]. Like the previous region, Kalos has no close ties with any other region.

====Starter Pokémon====
The starters of the sixth Generation, like the starters of the previous five generations, follow the {{t|Grass}}/{{t|Fire}}/{{t|Water}} trio setup. At the beginning of the game, the player must choose between the Grass-type {{p|Chespin}}, the Fire-type {{p|Fennekin}} and the Water-type {{p|Froakie}}.

====Gym Leaders====
Like the other five regions, Kalos has its own set of eight Gym Leaders. This set specializes in the same types as Gym Leaders from other regions, though not in the same order. Like always, Badges and TMs are given away by defeated Gym Leaders.
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{kalos color dark}}; border: 4px solid #{{kalos color dark}};" colspan=4 cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #{{kalos color dark}};" colspan="4" | {{color2|{{kalos color light}}|Kalos League}}
|-
! style="background: #{{kalos color dark}};" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{kalos color light}}|Generation VI}}
! style="background: #{{kalos color dark}};" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{kalos color light}}|Region|Region:}} {{color2|{{kalos color light}}|Kalos}}
|-
! style="background: #{{kalos color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color|{{kalos color dark}}|Gym Leader Japanese}}
! style="background: #{{kalos color light}};" | {{color|{{kalos color dark}}|Location Japanese}}
! style="background: #{{kalos color light}};" | {{color2|{{kalos color dark}}|Type}}
! style="background: #{{kalos color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|{{kalos color dark}}|Badge}}
{{gldr|type=Bug|pic=VSViola.png|ldr=Viola|djap=ビオラ|drm=Viola|loc=Santalune City|cjap=ハクダンシティ|crm=Hakudan City|bdg=Bug|size=150px}}
{{gldr|type=Rock|pic=VSGrant.png|ldr=Grant|djap=ザクロ|drm=Zakuro|loc=Cyllage City|cjap=ショウヨウシティ|crm=Shouyou City|bdg=Cliff|size=150px}}
{{gldr|type=Fighting|pic=VSKorrina.png|ldr=Korrina|djap=コルニ|drm=Koruni|loc=Shalour City|cjap=シャラシティ|crm=Shara City||bdg=Rumble|size=150px}}
{{gldr|type=Grass|pic=VSRamos.png|ldr=Ramos|djap=フクジ|drm=Fukuji|loc=Coumarine City|cjap=ヒヨクシティ|crm=Hiyoku City|bdg=Plant|size=150px}}
{{gldr|type=Electric|pic=VSClemont.png|ldr=Clemont|djap=シトロン|drm=Citron|loc=Lumiose City|cjap=ミアレシティ|crm=Miare City|bdg=Voltage|size=150px}}
{{gldr|type=Fairy|pic=VSValerie.png|ldr=Valerie|djap=マーシュ|drm=Mache|loc=Laverre City|cjap=クノエシティ|crm=Kunoe City|bdg=Fairy|size=150px}}
{{gldr|type=Psychic|pic=VSOlympia.png|ldr=Olympia|djap=ゴジカ|drm=Gojika|loc=Anistar City|cjap=ヒャッコクシティ|crm=Hyakkoku City|bdg=Psychic|size=150px}}
{{gldrb|type=Ice|pic=VSWulfric.png|ldr=Wulfric|djap=ウルップ|drm=Urup|loc=Snowbelle City|cjap=エイセツシティ|crm=Eisetsu City|bdg=Iceberg|size=150px}}
|}

==Trivia==
* Generation VI introduced the fewest Pokémon to the series, with only 69.
* Generation VI is the only generation that did not introduce:
** A {{2t|Water|Flying}} Pokémon.
** A {{2t|Bug|Poison}} Pokémon.
** A new [[Legendary trio]].
** A new type of [[Poké Ball]].
* Generation VI is the only generation which contains games (except [[remake]]s) in which some Gym Leaders hand out TMs containing moves from older generations.
* Generation VI relieved restrictions on formatting that were evident in previous generations:
** The names of all Pokémon introduced before Generation VI were no more than 10 characters long.
** The names of all [[move]]s, [[item]]s and {{Abilities}} introduced before Generation VI were no more than 12 characters long, including any spaces. Some of these names were re-formatted. For example, Selfdestruct became {{m|Self-Destruct}}.

{{Core series}} 
{{Project Games notice}}

[[Category:Games]]

[[de:Sechste Spielgeneration]]
[[es:Generación VI]]
[[fr:Sixième génération]]
[[it:Sesta generazione]]
[[ja:第六世代]]
[[zh:第六世代]]

Generation VI

2014-02-05T22:51:20Z

Shepeedy: /* Intro */

{{Unknown name}}
{{incomplete|article|needs=Japanese title screens}}
{{GenInfo
|image=Pokémon XY logo.png
|size=250px
|caption=Logos of Pokémon X and Y
|titlescreen={{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 2}}|0=X|1=Y}}
|primary=X
|secondary=Y
|region=Kalos
|otherrpg=
|ndex=718
|debuten=October 12, 2013
|debutjp=October 12, 2013
}}

The '''sixth generation''' of Pokémon is the sixth installment of the Pokémon series. Like previous generations, the first installments, [[Pokémon X and Y]], were released as a pair. For the first time in the main series, the games are in full 3D and were released worldwide in October 12, 2013 for the [[Nintendo 3DS]].

[[Kalos]], the region introduced in this generation, continues the trend of being based in a real-life world location outside of Japan, started by Generation V. This time, the region is based in {{wp|France}}.

The Generation VI games are able to communicate with the four [[Generation V]] games when the storage-based online application [[Pokémon Bank]] is launched to the public starting from December 25, 2013 in Japan.

X and Y occur in an undisclosed amount of time after any game. [[Looker]], who has made appearances in [[Generation IV]] and [[Generation V]] games, is found in Kalos.

==Advances in gameplay==
The advancements introduced in Generation VI include:
* The addition of {{cat|Generation VI Pokémon|69 new Pokémon}}, bringing the total to 718. Only one evolution from a Pokémon featured in a previous generation is found, being a new {{p|Eevee}} evolution.
* The addition of a new [[type]], the {{t|Fairy}} type, bringing the total to 18. The last time that a new type had been introduced was in [[Generation II]].
* The addition of 53 new [[move]]s, bringing the total to 609.
* The addition of 24 new [[Ability|Abilities]], bringing the total to 188.
* The games now feature a completely three dimensional environment, as well as a new 3D battle system with 3D models for Pokémon as opposed to 2D sprites.
* A new battle mechanic, [[Mega Evolution]], which can only happen during a battle and will wear off once the battle ends. This is only available for certain Pokémon.
* Yet another region to explore, the [[Kalos]] region, far away from the previous five and based on {{wp|France}}.
* A new [[Villainous teams|villainous team]], [[Team Flare]], whose goal is to make money and create a beautiful world for themselves and eliminate all who don't meet their standards.
* The ability for the {{player}} to walk in an 8 directional grid as opposed to the 4 directional grid that has been common in all the preceding games.
* Three new battle modes:
** A new battle mode called [[Sky Battle]]s, where only certain {{type|Flying}} Pokémon, or those whose Ability is {{a|Levitate}} can participate.
** Another battle mode called [[Horde Encounter]]s, where multiple [[wild Pokémon]] will engage in a battle against one of the player's Pokémon.
**The third format is known as an [[Inverse Battle]], which completely reverses [[Type chart|type matchups]].
* The addition of [[Super Training]], a way to increase a Pokémon's [[EV]]s.
* The addition of [[Trainer customization|customization]] for the player, with the ability to choose a variety of outfits to wear at any time.
* The new [[Pokémon Bank]], an online Nintendo 3DS application that will allow the storage of up to 3000 Pokémon through the payment of an annual fee.
* [[TM]]s have been expanded from 95 to 100.

===Alterations from Generation V===
* The abandonment of the [[Pokémon Musical]] and the [[Pokémon World Tournament]].
* Badges are once again needed in order to use [[HM]] {{OBP|field move|main series}}s.
* {{DL|Tall grass|Dark grass}} is no longer found.
* The abandonment of [[seasons]].
* The abandonment of [[Pokémon outbreak]]s.
* A change in the types of three moves ({{m|Charm}}, {{m|Moonlight}} and {{m|Sweet Kiss}}). All formerly {{type|Normal}}, they are now {{type|Fairy}}.
* The addition of {{t|Fairy}} as a pure type for {{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}, {{p|Cleffa}}, {{p|Togepi}}, {{p|Snubbull}} and {{p|Granbull}}, primary type for {{p|Togetic}} and {{p|Togekiss}} and secondary type for {{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}, {{p|Mr. Mime}}, {{p|Igglybuff}}, {{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}, {{p|Ralts}}, {{p|Kirlia}}, {{p|Gardevoir}}, {{p|Azurill}}, {{p|Mawile}}, {{p|Mime Jr.}}, {{p|Cottonee}} and {{p|Whimsicott}}.
* Twenty-eight Pokémon from earlier generations receive a 10-point increase in one of their base stats. They are {{p|Butterfree}}, {{p|Beedrill}}, {{p|Pidgeot}}, {{p|Raichu}}, {{p|Nidoqueen}}, {{p|Nidoking}}, {{p|Clefable}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}, {{p|Vileplume}}, {{p|Poliwrath}}, {{p|Alakazam}}, {{p|Victreebel}}, {{p|Golem}}, {{p|Ampharos}}, {{p|Bellossom}}, {{p|Azumarill}}, {{p|Jumpluff}}, {{p|Beautifly}}, {{p|Exploud}}, {{p|Staraptor}}, {{p|Roserade}}, {{p|Stoutland}}, {{p|Unfezant}}, {{p|Gigalith}}, {{p|Seismitoad}}, {{p|Leavanny}}, {{p|Scolipede}}, and {{p|Krookodile}}.
** {{p|Pikachu}} receives a 10-point increase each in two of its base stats.
*Pokémon can [[evolution|evolve]] after a battle, even if they are fainted or if the player lost.
* The [[type chart]] has slightly changed from Generation V:

{| style="text-align:center; background: #{{y color}}; {{roundy|10px}} border: 3px solid #{{x color}}"
|-
! Attacking type
! Defending type
! Old effectiveness
! New effectiveness
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="background:#{{ghost color}}" | {{typecolor|Ghost}}
| style="background:#{{steel color}}" | {{typecolor|Steel}}
| {{DL|Damage modification|Not very effective}}
| [[Damage modification#Type effectiveness|Normal effectiveness]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="background:#{{dark color}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{typecolor|Dark}}
| style="background:#{{steel color}}" | {{typecolor|Steel}}
| {{DL|Damage modification|Not very effective}}
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}" | [[Damage modification#Type effectiveness|Normal effectiveness]]
|} 

==Region==
===Kalos===
[[File:Kalos XY.png|thumb|250px|Kalos]]
{{main|Kalos}}
Like previous generations, another new region, the [[Kalos]] region, is introduced in [[Pokémon X and Y]]. Like the previous region, Kalos has no close ties with any other region.

====Starter Pokémon====
The starters of the sixth Generation, like the starters of the previous five generations, follow the {{t|Grass}}/{{t|Fire}}/{{t|Water}} trio setup. At the beginning of the game, the player must choose between the Grass-type {{p|Chespin}}, the Fire-type {{p|Fennekin}} and the Water-type {{p|Froakie}}.

====Gym Leaders====
Like the other five regions, Kalos has its own set of eight Gym Leaders. This set specializes in the same types as Gym Leaders from other regions, though not in the same order. Like always, Badges and TMs are given away by defeated Gym Leaders.
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{kalos color dark}}; border: 4px solid #{{kalos color dark}};" colspan=4 cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #{{kalos color dark}};" colspan="4" | {{color2|{{kalos color light}}|Kalos League}}
|-
! style="background: #{{kalos color dark}};" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{kalos color light}}|Generation VI}}
! style="background: #{{kalos color dark}};" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{kalos color light}}|Region|Region:}} {{color2|{{kalos color light}}|Kalos}}
|-
! style="background: #{{kalos color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color|{{kalos color dark}}|Gym Leader Japanese}}
! style="background: #{{kalos color light}};" | {{color|{{kalos color dark}}|Location Japanese}}
! style="background: #{{kalos color light}};" | {{color2|{{kalos color dark}}|Type}}
! style="background: #{{kalos color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|{{kalos color dark}}|Badge}}
{{gldr|type=Bug|pic=VSViola.png|ldr=Viola|djap=ビオラ|drm=Viola|loc=Santalune City|cjap=ハクダンシティ|crm=Hakudan City|bdg=Bug|size=150px}}
{{gldr|type=Rock|pic=VSGrant.png|ldr=Grant|djap=ザクロ|drm=Zakuro|loc=Cyllage City|cjap=ショウヨウシティ|crm=Shouyou City|bdg=Cliff|size=150px}}
{{gldr|type=Fighting|pic=VSKorrina.png|ldr=Korrina|djap=コルニ|drm=Koruni|loc=Shalour City|cjap=シャラシティ|crm=Shara City||bdg=Rumble|size=150px}}
{{gldr|type=Grass|pic=VSRamos.png|ldr=Ramos|djap=フクジ|drm=Fukuji|loc=Coumarine City|cjap=ヒヨクシティ|crm=Hiyoku City|bdg=Plant|size=150px}}
{{gldr|type=Electric|pic=VSClemont.png|ldr=Clemont|djap=シトロン|drm=Citron|loc=Lumiose City|cjap=ミアレシティ|crm=Miare City|bdg=Voltage|size=150px}}
{{gldr|type=Fairy|pic=VSValerie.png|ldr=Valerie|djap=マーシュ|drm=Mache|loc=Laverre City|cjap=クノエシティ|crm=Kunoe City|bdg=Fairy|size=150px}}
{{gldr|type=Psychic|pic=VSOlympia.png|ldr=Olympia|djap=ゴジカ|drm=Gojika|loc=Anistar City|cjap=ヒャッコクシティ|crm=Hyakkoku City|bdg=Psychic|size=150px}}
{{gldrb|type=Ice|pic=VSWulfric.png|ldr=Wulfric|djap=ウルップ|drm=Urup|loc=Snowbelle City|cjap=エイセツシティ|crm=Eisetsu City|bdg=Iceberg|size=150px}}
|}

==Trivia==
* Generation VI introduced the fewest Pokémon to the series, with only 69.
* Generation VI is the only generation that did not introduce:
** A {{2t|Water|Flying}} Pokémon.
** A {{2t|Bug|Poison}} Pokémon.
** A new [[Legendary trio]].
** A new type of [[Poké Ball]].
* Generation VI is the only generation which contains games (except [[remake]]s) in which some Gym Leaders hand out TMs containing moves from older generations.
* Generation VI relieved restrictions on formatting that were evident in previous generations:
** The names of all Pokémon introduced before Generation VI were no more than 10 characters long.
** The names of all [[move]]s, [[item]]s and {{Abilities}} introduced before Generation VI were no more than 12 characters long, including any spaces. Some of these names were re-formatted. For example, Selfdestruct became {{m|Self-Destruct}}.

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TM

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''If you were looking for either of the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]] expansions sometimes abbreviated as '''TM''', see [[EX Team Magma vs Team Aqua (TCG)]] or [[Triumphant (TCG)]].''
----
[[File:TM set FRLG.png|right|250px|thumb|Using a TM in {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}]]
A '''Technical Machine''', or '''TM''' for short (Japanese: '''{{tt|わざマシン|Waza Mashin}}''' ''Move Machine''), is an item that, like an [[HM]], is used to teach a Pokémon a move. A TM is a machine used by [[Pokémon Trainer]]s to teach a {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} a new [[move]] that it might not learn otherwise. Prior to [[Generation V]], TMs were single-use items, unlike [[HM|Hidden Machines]], which can be used over and over again on many different Pokémon. TMs can be found on the ground or bought at [[department store]]s. Some are also given away by [[Gym Leader]]s as prizes for defeating them in addition to a [[Badge]]. [[Silph Co.]] has distributed a pamphlet containing information on TMs and HMs, indicating they are, at least partially, developed or produced by the company.

Mutually-compatible TMs will also be passed down through {{pkmn|breeding}} (such as {{m|Flamethrower}} from a father {{p|Typhlosion}} to a baby {{p|Torchic}}), though prior to Generation V there were several Pokémon that could only learn certain moves contained in TMs via breeding, such as {{p|Vulpix}} with {{m|Energy Ball}}.

The depiction of TMs has changed over time. In the TCG, they are shown as small boxes that the Poké Ball would be inserted into, but from {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}} onwards, they have been depicted as {{wp|compact disc}}s that are inserted into the {{key|III|TM Case}} and the case itself teaches the Pokémon the move. In ''[[Pokémon Origins]]'', TMs and HMs resemble {{wp|floppy disc}}s, but how they work is never shown.

For the in-game locations of TMs, see [[List of TM and HM locations]].

==TM through generations==
===Generation I===
[[Generation I]] featured 50 TMs, with an additional {{DL|HM|Generation I|five HMs}}. [[Move Tutor]]s in {{3v2|FireRed|LeafGreen|Emerald}} teach several of the moves that were removed from the TM list between Generation I and Generation III.

===Generation II===
[[Generation II]] introduced several new TMs, a majority of which were new moves introduced in this generation. There remained 50 TMs, as some Generation I TMs were removed. Several moves that were contained in TMs in Generation II but were no longer contained within TMs during Generation III can be taught by a Move Tutor in {{game|Emerald}}.

===Generation III===
In [[Generation III]], more moves were introduced, and the TM list was again adjusted. The 50-TM limit remained, and several older moves became TMs—including some that lost their TM status between Generations I and II.

===Generation IV===
Due to the connectivity with the Generation III games, the 50-TM list was not redone in [[Generation IV]]. To include new moves and incorporate older moves as TMs, the TM list was expanded from 50 to 92, leaving the first 50 TMs intact. With the eight HMs, the number of machine-learnable moves in Generation IV was at an even 100.

===Generation V===
In [[Generation V]], TMs have changed from being single-use items to having infinite uses, making them akin to [[HM]]s. In addition, when a Pokémon learns a move from a TM or HM by overwriting an old one, the new move takes on the current PP of the forgotten move. This prevents repeated usage of machines for the purpose of PP restoration. The prices of the purchasable TMs are also much higher, and they can no longer be held or sold. On the other hand, in [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity|Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity]], they can be sold. The number of TMs was expanded once again from 92 to 95. However, many of the 92 TMs found in Generation IV contain different moves. As there are only six HMs, there are 101 machine-learnable moves normally available in Generation V.

===Generation VI===
In [[Generation VI]], TMs continued to be multiple-use items. Most TMs contained the same moves that they did in Generation V, with the exceptions of TM19, TM51, TM83, and TM88. Additionally, the number of TMs was increased to an even 100, with five more TM moves being added. As there are only five HM moves in Generation VI, there are now 105 machine-learnable moves. Also, unlike in Generation V, when a Pokémon learns a move from a TM or HM by overwriting an old one, the new move is learned with full PP, instead of taking on the current PP of the forgotten move.

==List of TMs==
{|style="margin:auto;"
|-
| style="vertical-align:top" |
{| class="expandable" style="margin:auto; background: #{{red color}}; {{roundy}} border: 5px solid #{{blue color}};"
|-
! [[Generation I|{{color|FFF|Generation I}}]]
|- style="margin:auto;"
|
{| class="sortable" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{red color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="margin:auto; background:#{{blue color}};"
! [[TM|#]]
! [[Move|Move]]
! [[Type|Type]]
|-
| {{TM2|01}}
| {{m|Mega Punch}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|02}}
| {{m|Razor Wind}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|03}}
| {{m|Swords Dance}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|04}}
| {{m|Whirlwind}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|05}}
| {{m|Mega Kick}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|06}}
| {{m|Toxic}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
| {{TM2|07}}
| {{m|Horn Drill}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|08}}
| {{m|Body Slam}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|09}}
| {{m|Take Down}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|10}}
| {{m|Double-Edge}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|11}}
| {{m|BubbleBeam}}
{{typetable|Water}}
|-
| {{TM2|12}}
| {{m|Water Gun}}
{{typetable|Water}}
|-
| {{TM2|13}}
| {{m|Ice Beam}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|-
| {{TM2|14}}
| {{m|Blizzard}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|-
| {{TM2|15}}
| {{m|Hyper Beam}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|16}}
| {{m|Pay Day}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|17}}
| {{m|Submission}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
| {{TM2|18}}
| {{m|Counter}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
| {{TM2|19}}
| {{m|Seismic Toss}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
| {{TM2|20}}
| {{m|Rage}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|21}}
| {{m|Mega Drain}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
|-
| {{TM2|22}}
| {{m|SolarBeam}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
|-
| {{TM2|23}}
| {{m|Dragon Rage}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|-
| {{TM2|24}}
| {{m|Thunderbolt}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
|-
| {{TM2|25}}
| {{m|Thunder}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
|-
| {{TM2|26}}
| {{m|Earthquake}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
| {{TM2|27}}
| {{m|Fissure}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
| {{TM2|28}}
| {{m|Dig}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
| {{TM2|29}}
| {{m|Psychic}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
|-
| {{TM2|30}}
| {{m|Teleport}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
|-
| {{TM2|31}}
| {{m|Mimic}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|32}}
| {{m|Double Team}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|33}}
| {{m|Reflect}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
|-
| {{TM2|34}}
| {{m|Bide}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|35}}
| {{m|Metronome}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|36}}
| {{m|Selfdestruct}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|37}}
| {{m|Egg Bomb}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|38}}
| {{m|Fire Blast}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
|-
| {{TM2|39}}
| {{m|Swift}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|40}}
| {{m|Skull Bash}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|41}}
| {{m|Softboiled}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|42}}
| {{m|Dream Eater}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
|-
| {{TM2|43}}
| {{m|Sky Attack}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|-
| {{TM2|44}}
| {{m|Rest}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
|-
| {{TM2|45}}
| {{m|Thunder Wave}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
|-
| {{TM2|46}}
| {{m|Psywave}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
|-
| {{TM2|47}}
| {{m|Explosion}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|48}}
| {{m|Rock Slide}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
|-
| {{TM2|49}}
| {{m|Tri Attack}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|50}}
| {{m|Substitute}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|}
|}
| style="vertical-align:top" |
{| class="expandable" style="margin:auto; background: #{{gold color}}; {{roundy}} border: 5px solid #{{silver color}};"
|-
! [[Generation II|{{color|000|Generation II}}]]
|- style="margin:auto;"
|
{| class="sortable" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{gold color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="margin:auto; background:#{{silver color}};"
! [[TM|#]]
! [[Move|Move]]
! [[Type|Type]]
|-
| {{TM2|01}}
| {{m|DynamicPunch}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
| {{TM2|02}}
| {{m|Headbutt}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|03}}
| {{m|Curse}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{unknown color}}" | [[??? (type)|{{color|FFF|???}}]]
|-
| {{TM2|04}}
| {{m|Rollout}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
|-
| {{TM2|05}}
| {{m|Roar}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|06}}
| {{m|Toxic}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
| {{TM2|07}}
| {{m|Zap Cannon}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
|-
| {{TM2|08}}
| {{m|Rock Smash}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
| {{TM2|09}}
| {{m|Psych Up}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|10}}
| {{m|Hidden Power}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|11}}
| {{m|Sunny Day}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
|-
| {{TM2|12}}
| {{m|Sweet Scent}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|13}}
| {{m|Snore}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|14}}
| {{m|Blizzard}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|-
| {{TM2|15}}
| {{m|Hyper Beam}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|16}}
| {{m|Icy Wind}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|-
| {{TM2|17}}
| {{m|Protect}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|18}}
| {{m|Rain Dance}}
{{typetable|Water}}
|-
| {{TM2|19}}
| {{m|Giga Drain}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
|-
| {{TM2|20}}
| {{m|Endure}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|21}}
| {{m|Frustration}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|22}}
| {{m|SolarBeam}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
|-
| {{TM2|23}}
| {{m|Iron Tail}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
|-
| {{TM2|24}}
| {{m|DragonBreath}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|-
| {{TM2|25}}
| {{m|Thunder}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
|-
| {{TM2|26}}
| {{m|Earthquake}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
| {{TM2|27}}
| {{m|Return}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|28}}
| {{m|Dig}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
| {{TM2|29}}
| {{m|Psychic}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
|-
| {{TM2|30}}
| {{m|Shadow Ball}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
|-
| {{TM2|31}}
| {{m|Mud-Slap}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
| {{TM2|32}}
| {{m|Double Team}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|33}}
| {{m|Ice Punch}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|-
| {{TM2|34}}
| {{m|Swagger}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|35}}
| {{m|Sleep Talk}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|36}}
| {{m|Sludge Bomb}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
| {{TM2|37}}
| {{m|Sandstorm}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
|-
| {{TM2|38}}
| {{m|Fire Blast}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
|-
| {{TM2|39}}
| {{m|Swift}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|40}}
| {{m|Defense Curl}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|41}}
| {{m|ThunderPunch}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
|-
| {{TM2|42}}
| {{m|Dream Eater}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
|-
| {{TM2|43}}
| {{m|Detect}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
| {{TM2|44}}
| {{m|Rest}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
|-
| {{TM2|45}}
| {{m|Attract}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|46}}
| {{m|Thief}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
|-
| {{TM2|47}}
| {{m|Steel Wing}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
|-
| {{TM2|48}}
| {{m|Fire Punch}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
|-
| {{TM2|49}}
| {{m|Fury Cutter}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
|-
| {{TM2|50}}
| {{m|Nightmare}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
|}
|}
| style="vertical-align:top" |
{| class="expandable" style="margin:auto; background: #{{ruby color}}; {{roundy}} border: 5px solid #{{sapphire color}};"
|-
! [[Generation III|{{color|FFF|Generation III}}]]
|- style="margin:auto;"
|
{| class="sortable" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{ruby color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="margin:auto; background:#{{sapphire color}};"
! [[TM|#]]
! [[Move|Move]]
! [[Type|Type]]
|-
| {{TM2|01}}
| {{m|Focus Punch}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
| {{TM2|02}}
| {{m|Dragon Claw}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|-
| {{TM2|03}}
| {{m|Water Pulse}}
{{typetable|Water}}
|-
| {{TM2|04}}
| {{m|Calm Mind}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
|-
| {{TM2|05}}
| {{m|Roar}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|06}}
| {{m|Toxic}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
| {{TM2|07}}
| {{m|Hail}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|-
| {{TM2|08}}
| {{m|Bulk Up}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
| {{TM2|09}}
| {{m|Bullet Seed}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
|-
| {{TM2|10}}
| {{m|Hidden Power}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|11}}
| {{m|Sunny Day}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
|-
| {{TM2|12}}
| {{m|Taunt}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
|-
| {{TM2|13}}
| {{m|Ice Beam}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|-
| {{TM2|14}}
| {{m|Blizzard}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|-
| {{TM2|15}}
| {{m|Hyper Beam}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|16}}
| {{m|Light Screen}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
|-
| {{TM2|17}}
| {{m|Protect}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|18}}
| {{m|Rain Dance}}
{{typetable|Water}}
|-
| {{TM2|19}}
| {{m|Giga Drain}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
|-
| {{TM2|20}}
| {{m|Safeguard}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|21}}
| {{m|Frustration}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|22}}
| {{m|SolarBeam}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
|-
| {{TM2|23}}
| {{m|Iron Tail}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
|-
| {{TM2|24}}
| {{m|Thunderbolt}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
|-
| {{TM2|25}}
| {{m|Thunder}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
|-
| {{TM2|26}}
| {{m|Earthquake}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
| {{TM2|27}}
| {{m|Return}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|28}}
| {{m|Dig}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
| {{TM2|29}}
| {{m|Psychic}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
|-
| {{TM2|30}}
| {{m|Shadow Ball}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
|-
| {{TM2|31}}
| {{m|Brick Break}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
| {{TM2|32}}
| {{m|Double Team}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|33}}
| {{m|Reflect}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
|-
| {{TM2|34}}
| {{m|Shock Wave}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
|-
| {{TM2|35}}
| {{m|Flamethrower}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
|-
| {{TM2|36}}
| {{m|Sludge Bomb}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
| {{TM2|37}}
| {{m|Sandstorm}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
|-
| {{TM2|38}}
| {{m|Fire Blast}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
|-
| {{TM2|39}}
| {{m|Rock Tomb}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
|-
| {{TM2|40}}
| {{m|Aerial Ace}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|-
| {{TM2|41}}
| {{m|Torment}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
|-
| {{TM2|42}}
| {{m|Facade}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|43}}
| {{m|Secret Power}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|44}}
| {{m|Rest}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
|-
| {{TM2|45}}
| {{m|Attract}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
|-
| {{TM2|46}}
| {{m|Thief}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
|-
| {{TM2|47}}
| {{m|Steel Wing}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
|-
| {{TM2|48}}
| {{m|Skill Swap}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
|-
| {{TM2|49}}
| {{m|Snatch}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
|-
| {{TM2|50}}
| {{m|Overheat}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
|}
|}
|-
| style="vertical-align:top" |
{| class="expandable" style="margin:auto; background: #{{diamond color}}; {{roundy}} border: 5px solid #{{pearl color}};"
|-
! [[Generation IV|{{color|000|Generation IV}}]]
|- style="margin:auto;"
|
{| class="sortable" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{diamond color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="margin:auto; background:#{{pearl color}};"
! [[TM|#]]
! [[Move|Move]]
! [[Type|Type]]
! [[Damage category|Cat.]]
|-
| {{TM2|01}}
| {{m|Focus Punch}}
{{Typetable|Fighting}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|02}}
| {{m|Dragon Claw}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|03}}
| {{m|Water Pulse}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|04}}
| {{m|Calm Mind}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|05}}
| {{m|Roar}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|06}}
| {{m|Toxic}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|07}}
| {{m|Hail}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|08}}
| {{m|Bulk Up}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|09}}
| {{m|Bullet Seed}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|10}}
| {{m|Hidden Power}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|11}}
| {{m|Sunny Day}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|12}}
| {{m|Taunt}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|13}}
| {{m|Ice Beam}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|14}}
| {{m|Blizzard}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|15}}
| {{m|Hyper Beam}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|16}}
| {{m|Light Screen}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|17}}
| {{m|Protect}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|18}}
| {{m|Rain Dance}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|19}}
| {{m|Giga Drain}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|20}}
| {{m|Safeguard}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|21}}
| {{m|Frustration}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|22}}
| {{m|SolarBeam}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|23}}
| {{m|Iron Tail}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|24}}
| {{m|Thunderbolt}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|25}}
| {{m|Thunder}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|26}}
| {{m|Earthquake}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|27}}
| {{m|Return}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|28}}
| {{m|Dig}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|29}}
| {{m|Psychic}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|30}}
| {{m|Shadow Ball}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|31}}
| {{m|Brick Break}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|32}}
| {{m|Double Team}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|33}}
| {{m|Reflect}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|34}}
| {{m|Shock Wave}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|35}}
| {{m|Flamethrower}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|36}}
| {{m|Sludge Bomb}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|37}}
| {{m|Sandstorm}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|38}}
| {{m|Fire Blast}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|39}}
| {{m|Rock Tomb}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|40}}
| {{m|Aerial Ace}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|41}}
| {{m|Torment}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|42}}
| {{m|Facade}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|43}}
| {{m|Secret Power}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|44}}
| {{m|Rest}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|45}}
| {{m|Attract}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|46}}
| {{m|Thief}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|47}}
| {{m|Steel Wing}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|48}}
| {{m|Skill Swap}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|49}}
| {{m|Snatch}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|50}}
| {{m|Overheat}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|51}}
| {{m|Roost}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|52}}
| {{m|Focus Blast}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|53}}
| {{m|Energy Ball}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|54}}
| {{m|False Swipe}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|55}}
| {{m|Brine}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|56}}
| {{m|Fling}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|57}}
| {{m|Charge Beam}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|58}}
| {{m|Endure}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|59}}
| {{m|Dragon Pulse}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|60}}
| {{m|Drain Punch}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|61}}
| {{m|Will-O-Wisp}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|62}}
| {{m|Silver Wind}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|63}}
| {{m|Embargo}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|64}}
| {{m|Explosion}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|65}}
| {{m|Shadow Claw}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|66}}
| {{m|Payback}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|67}}
| {{m|Recycle}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|68}}
| {{m|Giga Impact}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|69}}
| {{m|Rock Polish}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|70}}
| {{m|Flash}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|71}}
| {{m|Stone Edge}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|72}}
| {{m|Avalanche}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|73}}
| {{m|Thunder Wave}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|74}}
| {{m|Gyro Ball}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|75}}
| {{m|Swords Dance}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|76}}
| {{m|Stealth Rock}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|77}}
| {{m|Psych Up}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|78}}
| {{m|Captivate}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|79}}
| {{m|Dark Pulse}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|80}}
| {{m|Rock Slide}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|81}}
| {{m|X-Scissor}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|82}}
| {{m|Sleep Talk}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|83}}
| {{m|Natural Gift}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|84}}
| {{m|Poison Jab}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|85}}
| {{m|Dream Eater}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|86}}
| {{m|Grass Knot}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|87}}
| {{m|Swagger}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|88}}
| {{m|Pluck}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|89}}
| {{m|U-turn}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|90}}
| {{m|Substitute}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|91}}
| {{m|Flash Cannon}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|92}}
| {{m|Trick Room}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|}
|}
| style="vertical-align:top" |
{| class="expandable" style="margin:auto; background: #{{black color}}; {{roundy}} border: 5px solid #{{white color}};"
|-
! [[Generation V|{{color|{{white color}}|Generation V}}]]
|- style="margin:auto;"
|
{| class="sortable" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{black color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="margin:auto; background:#{{white color}};"
! [[TM|#]]
! [[Move|Move]]
! [[Type|Type]]
! [[Damage category|Cat.]]
|-
| {{TM2|01}}
| {{m|Hone Claws}}
{{Typetable|Dark}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|02}}
| {{m|Dragon Claw}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|03}}
| {{m|Psyshock}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|04}}
| {{m|Calm Mind}}
{{Typetable|Psychic}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|05}}
| {{m|Roar}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|06}}
| {{m|Toxic}}
{{Typetable|Poison}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|07}}
| {{m|Hail}}
{{Typetable|Ice}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|08}}
| {{m|Bulk Up}}
{{Typetable|Fighting}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|09}}
| {{m|Venoshock}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|10}}
| {{m|Hidden Power}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|11}}
| {{m|Sunny Day}}
{{Typetable|Fire}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|12}}
| {{m|Taunt}}
{{Typetable|Dark}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|13}}
| {{m|Ice Beam}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|14}}
| {{m|Blizzard}}
{{Typetable|Ice}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|15}}
| {{m|Hyper Beam}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|16}}
| {{m|Light Screen}}
{{Typetable|Psychic}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|17}}
| {{m|Protect}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|18}}
| {{m|Rain Dance}}
{{Typetable|Water}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|19}}
| {{m|Telekinesis}}
{{Typetable|Psychic}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|20}}
| {{m|Safeguard}}
{{Typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|21}}
| {{m|Frustration}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|22}}
| {{m|SolarBeam}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|23}}
| {{m|Smack Down}}
{{Typetable|Rock}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|24}}
| {{m|Thunderbolt}}
{{Typetable|Electric}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|25}}
| {{m|Thunder}}
{{Typetable|Electric}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|26}}
| {{m|Earthquake}}
{{Typetable|Ground}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|27}}
| {{m|Return}}
{{Typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|28}}
| {{m|Dig}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|29}}
| {{m|Psychic}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|30}}
| {{m|Shadow Ball}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|31}}
| {{m|Brick Break}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|32}}
| {{m|Double Team}}
{{Typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|33}}
| {{m|Reflect}}
{{Typetable|Psychic}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|34}}
| {{m|Sludge Wave}}
{{Typetable|Poison}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|35}}
| {{m|Flamethrower}}
{{Typetable|Fire}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|36}}
| {{m|Sludge Bomb}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|37}}
| {{m|Sandstorm}}
{{Typetable|Rock}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|38}}
| {{m|Fire Blast}}
{{Typetable|Fire}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|39}}
| {{m|Rock Tomb}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|40}}
| {{m|Aerial Ace}}
{{Typetable|Flying}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|41}}
| {{m|Torment}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|42}}
| {{m|Facade}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|43}}
| {{m|Flame Charge}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|44}}
| {{m|Rest}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|45}}
| {{m|Attract}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|46}}
| {{m|Thief}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|47}}
| {{m|Low Sweep}}
{{Typetable|Fighting}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|48}}
| {{m|Round}}
{{Typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|49}}
| {{m|Echoed Voice}}
{{Typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|50}}
| {{m|Overheat}}
{{Typetable|Fire}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|51}}
| {{m|Ally Switch}}
{{Typetable|Psychic}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|52}}
| {{m|Focus Blast}}
{{Typetable|Fighting}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|53}}
| {{m|Energy Ball}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|54}}
| {{m|False Swipe}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|55}}
| {{m|Scald}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|56}}
| {{m|Fling}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|57}}
| {{m|Charge Beam}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|58}}
| {{m|Sky Drop}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|59}}
| {{m|Incinerate}}
{{Typetable|Fire}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|60}}
| {{m|Quash}}
{{Typetable|Dark}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|61}}
| {{m|Will-O-Wisp}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|62}}
| {{m|Acrobatics}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|63}}
| {{m|Embargo}}
{{Typetable|Dark}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|64}}
| {{m|Explosion}}
{{Typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|65}}
| {{m|Shadow Claw}}
{{Typetable|Ghost}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|66}}
| {{m|Payback}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|67}}
| {{m|Retaliate}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|68}}
| {{m|Giga Impact}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|69}}
| {{m|Rock Polish}}
{{Typetable|Rock}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|70}}
| {{m|Flash}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|71}}
| {{m|Stone Edge}}
{{Typetable|Rock}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|72}}
| {{m|Volt Switch}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|73}}
| {{m|Thunder Wave}}
{{Typetable|Electric}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|74}}
| {{m|Gyro Ball}}
{{Typetable|Steel}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|75}}
| {{m|Swords Dance}}
{{Typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|76}}
| {{m|Struggle Bug}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|77}}
| {{m|Psych Up}}
{{Typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|78}}
| {{m|Bulldoze}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|79}}
| {{m|Frost Breath}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|80}}
| {{m|Rock Slide}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|81}}
| {{m|X-Scissor}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|82}}
| {{m|Dragon Tail}}
{{Typetable|Dragon}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|83}}
| {{m|Work Up}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|84}}
| {{m|Poison Jab}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|85}}
| {{m|Dream Eater}}
{{Typetable|Psychic}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|86}}
| {{m|Grass Knot}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|87}}
| {{m|Swagger}}
{{Typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|88}}
| {{m|Pluck}}
{{Typetable|Flying}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|89}}
| {{m|U-turn}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|90}}
| {{m|Substitute}}
{{Typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|91}}
| {{m|Flash Cannon}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|92}}
| {{m|Trick Room}}
{{Typetable|Psychic}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|93}}
| {{m|Wild Charge}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|94}}
| {{m|Rock Smash}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|95}}
| {{m|Snarl}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|}
|}
| style="vertical-align:top" |
{| class="expandable" style="margin:auto; background: #{{x color}}; {{roundy}} border: 5px solid #{{y color}};"
|-
! [[Generation VI|{{color|{{White color}}|Generation VI}}]]
|- style="margin:auto;"
|
{| class="sortable" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{x color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="margin:auto; background:#{{y color}};"
! [[TM|#]]
! [[Move|Move]]
! [[Type|Type]]
! [[Damage category|Cat.]]
|-
| {{TM2|01}}
| {{m|Hone Claws}}
{{Typetable|Dark}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|02}}
| {{m|Dragon Claw}}
{{Typetable|Dragon}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|03}}
| {{m|Psyshock}}
{{Typetable|Psychic}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|04}}
| {{m|Calm Mind}}
{{Typetable|Psychic}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|05}}
| {{m|Roar}}
{{Typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|06}}
| {{m|Toxic}}
{{Typetable|Poison}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|07}}
| {{m|Hail}}
{{Typetable|Ice}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|08}}
| {{m|Bulk Up}}
{{Typetable|Fighting}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|09}}
| {{m|Venoshock}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|10}}
| {{m|Hidden Power}}
{{Typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|11}}
| {{m|Sunny Day}}
{{Typetable|Fire}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|12}}
| {{m|Taunt}}
{{Typetable|Dark}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|13}}
| {{m|Ice Beam}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|14}}
| {{m|Blizzard}}
{{Typetable|Ice}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|15}}
| {{m|Hyper Beam}}
{{Typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|16}}
| {{m|Light Screen}}
{{Typetable|Psychic}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|17}}
| {{m|Protect}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|18}}
| {{m|Rain Dance}}
{{Typetable|Water}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|19}}
| {{m|Roost}}
{{Typetable|Flying}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|20}}
| {{m|Safeguard}}
{{Typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|21}}
| {{m|Frustration}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|22}}
| {{m|Solar Beam}}
{{Typetable|Grass}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|23}}
| {{m|Smack Down}}
{{Typetable|Rock}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|24}}
| {{m|Thunderbolt}}
{{Typetable|Electric}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|25}}
| {{m|Thunder}}
{{Typetable|Electric}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|26}}
| {{m|Earthquake}}
{{Typetable|Ground}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|27}}
| {{m|Return}}
{{Typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|28}}
| {{m|Dig}}
{{Typetable|Ground}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|29}}
| {{m|Psychic}}
{{Typetable|Psychic}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|30}}
| {{m|Shadow Ball}}
{{Typetable|Ghost}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|31}}
| {{m|Brick Break}}
{{Typetable|Fighting}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|32}}
| {{m|Double Team}}
{{Typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|33}}
| {{m|Reflect}}
{{Typetable|Psychic}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|34}}
| {{m|Sludge Wave}}
{{Typetable|Poison}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|35}}
| {{m|Flamethrower}}
{{Typetable|Fire}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|36}}
| {{m|Sludge Bomb}}
{{Typetable|Poison}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|37}}
| {{m|Sandstorm}}
{{Typetable|Rock}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|38}}
| {{m|Fire Blast}}
{{Typetable|Fire}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|39}}
| {{m|Rock Tomb}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|40}}
| {{m|Aerial Ace}}
{{Typetable|Flying}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|41}}
| {{m|Torment}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|42}}
| {{m|Facade}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|43}}
| {{m|Flame Charge}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|44}}
| {{m|Rest}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|45}}
| {{m|Attract}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|46}}
| {{m|Thief}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|47}}
| {{m|Low Sweep}}
{{Typetable|Fighting}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|48}}
| {{m|Round}}
{{Typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|49}}
| {{m|Echoed Voice}}
{{Typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|50}}
| {{m|Overheat}}
{{Typetable|Fire}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|51}}
| {{m|Steel Wing}}
{{Typetable|Steel}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|52}}
| {{m|Focus Blast}}
{{Typetable|Fighting}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|53}}
| {{m|Energy Ball}}
{{Typetable|Grass}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|54}}
| {{m|False Swipe}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|55}}
| {{m|Scald}}
{{Typetable|Water}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|56}}
| {{m|Fling}}
{{Typetable|Dark}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|57}}
| {{m|Charge Beam}}
{{Typetable|Electric}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|58}}
| {{m|Sky Drop}}
{{Typetable|Flying}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|59}}
| {{m|Incinerate}}
{{Typetable|Fire}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|60}}
| {{m|Quash}}
{{Typetable|Dark}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|61}}
| {{m|Will-O-Wisp}}
{{Typetable|Fire}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|62}}
| {{m|Acrobatics}}
{{Typetable|Flying}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|63}}
| {{m|Embargo}}
{{Typetable|Dark}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|64}}
| {{m|Explosion}}
{{Typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|65}}
| {{m|Shadow Claw}}
{{Typetable|Ghost}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|66}}
| {{m|Payback}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|67}}
| {{m|Retaliate}}
{{Typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|68}}
| {{m|Giga Impact}}
{{Typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|69}}
| {{m|Rock Polish}}
{{Typetable|Rock}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|70}}
| {{m|Flash}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|71}}
| {{m|Stone Edge}}
{{Typetable|Rock}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|72}}
| {{m|Volt Switch}}
{{Typetable|Electric}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|73}}
| {{m|Thunder Wave}}
{{Typetable|Electric}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|74}}
| {{m|Gyro Ball}}
{{Typetable|Steel}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|75}}
| {{m|Swords Dance}}
{{Typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|76}}
| {{m|Struggle Bug}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|77}}
| {{m|Psych Up}}
{{Typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|78}}
| {{m|Bulldoze}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|79}}
| {{m|Frost Breath}}
{{Typetable|Ice}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|80}}
| {{m|Rock Slide}}
{{Typetable|Rock}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|81}}
| {{m|X-Scissor}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|82}}
| {{m|Dragon Tail}}
{{Typetable|Dragon}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|83}}
| {{m|Infestation}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|84}}
| {{m|Poison Jab}}
{{Typetable|Poison}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|85}}
| {{m|Dream Eater}}
{{Typetable|Psychic}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|86}}
| {{m|Grass Knot}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|87}}
| {{m|Swagger}}
{{Typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|88}}
| {{m|Sleep Talk}}
{{Typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|89}}
| {{m|U-turn}}
{{Typetable|Bug}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|90}}
| {{m|Substitute}}
{{Typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|91}}
| {{m|Flash Cannon}}
{{Typetable|Steel}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|92}}
| {{m|Trick Room}}
{{Typetable|Psychic}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|93}}
| {{m|Wild Charge}}
{{Typetable|Electric}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|94}}
| {{m|Rock Smash}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|95}}
| {{m|Snarl}}
{{Typetable|Dark}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|96}}
| {{m|Nature Power}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|-
| {{TM2|97}}
| {{m|Dark Pulse}}
{{Typetable|Dark}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|98}}
| {{m|Power-Up Punch}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
|-
| {{TM2|99}}
| {{m|Dazzling Gleam}}
{{typetable|Fairy}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
|-
| {{TM2|100}}
| {{m|Confide}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
|}
|}
|}

==Move Tutor moves==
{{main|Move Tutor}}

Though technically not TMs, some moves can only be obtained via a [[Move Tutor]]: a [[non-player character]] who teaches the desired move to a single Pokémon. Often, these moves are moves which were formerly contained in TMs. They first appeared in {{v2|Crystal}}, where outside of the [[Goldenrod City]] [[Goldenrod Game Corner|Game Corner]] a man would teach a compatible Pokémon {{m|Flamethrower}}, {{m|Ice Beam}}, or {{m|Thunderbolt}} for 4000 coins on certain days of the week.

This was continued in {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}, where Trainers could encounter NPCs who would offer to teach a Pokémon a move that was not otherwise available to it. All but three of these moves (the elemental {{m|Hyper Beam}} variations) were available as TMs in {{3v2|Red|Blue|Yellow}}; FireRed and LeafGreen use the updated TM list of [[Generation III]].

In {{v2|Emerald}}, the same moves were able to be learned via Move Tutors, with the addition of some outdated [[Generation II]] TMs as well.

==Incompatible Pokémon==
Although most Pokémon are able to learn a wide range of TM moves, there are 14 Pokémon who cannot learn any. Typically, these Pokémon are low in their evolutionary line or rely on a set moveset.
{{Abilitylist1}}
{{Abilityentry1|010|Caterpie|1|Bug}}
{{Abilityentry1|011|Metapod|1|Bug}}
{{Abilityentry1|013|Weedle|2|Bug|Poison}}
{{Abilityentry1|014|Kakuna|2|Bug|Poison}}
{{Abilityentry1|129|Magikarp|1|Water}}
{{Abilityentry1|132|Ditto|1|Normal}}
{{Abilityentry1|201|Unown|1|Psychic}}
{{Abilityentry1|235|Smeargle|1|Normal}}
{{Abilityentry1|265|Wurmple|1|Bug}}
{{Abilityentry1|266|Silcoon|1|Bug}}
{{Abilityentry1|268|Cascoon|1|Bug}}
{{Abilityentry1|374|Beldum|2|Steel|Psychic}}
{{Abilityentry1|415|Combee|2|Bug|Flying}}
{{Abilityentry1|664|Scatterbug|1|Bug}}
{{Abilityfooter}}

===Formerly incompatible Pokémon===
In [[Generation VI]], several previous Pokémon that were only capable of learning TM moves by leveling up now are able to learn those moves through TM.
{{Abilitylist1}}
{{Abilityentry1|202|Wobbuffet|1|Psychic}}
{{Abilityentry1|360|Wynaut|1|Psychic}}
{{Abilityentry1|401|Kricketot|1|Bug}}
{{Abilityentry1|412|Burmy|1|Bug}}
{{Abilityentry1|602|Tynamo|1|Electric}}
{{Abilityfooter}}

==TM-exclusive moves==
In all six Generations, there have been moves exclusively taught by TMs:
{| align="center" style="background: #{{TMs and HMs color}}; {{roundy}} border: 5px solid #{{TMs and HMs color dark}};" class="expandable"
|-
! TM-exclusive moves
|- align="center"
|
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{TMs and HMs color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align="center" style="background:#{{TMs and HMs color dark}};"
! [[Generation I|Gen I]]
! [[Generation II|Gen II]]
! [[Generation III|Gen III]]
! [[Generation IV|Gen IV]]
! [[Generation V|Gen V]]
! [[Generation VI|Gen VI]]
|- align="center"
| {{m|Thunderbolt}}{{sup/1|RB}}
|
|
|
|
|
|- align="center"
| {{m|BubbleBeam}}
|
|
|
|
|
|- align="center"
| {{m|Mega Drain}}
|
|
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|
|- align="center"
| {{m|Fissure}}
|
|
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|
|- align="center"
| {{m|Mimic}}
|
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|
|- align="center"
| {{m|Bide}}
|
|
|
|
|
|- align="center"
| {{m|Egg Bomb}}
|
|
|
|
|
|- align="center"
| {{m|Fire Blast}}
|
|
|
|
|
|- align="center"
| {{m|Softboiled}}
|
|
|
|
|
|- align="center"
| {{m|Psywave}}
|
|
|
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|
|- align="center"
| {{m|Rock Slide}}
|
|
|
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|
|- align="center"
| {{m|Razor Wind}}
| {{m|Razor Wind}}{{tt|*|While not a TM in this generation, it can only be obtained by transferring a Pokémon that knows the move from Generation I}}
|
|
|
|
|- align="center"
| {{m|Toxic}}
| {{m|Toxic}}
|
|
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|
|- align="center"
|
| {{m|DynamicPunch}}
|
|
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|
|- align="center"
|
| {{m|Icy Wind}}
|
|
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|
|- align="center"
|
| {{m|Iron Tail}}
|
|
|
|
|- align="center"
|
| {{m|DragonBreath}}
|
|
|
|
|- align="center"
|
| {{m|Shadow Ball}}
|
|
|
|
|- align="center"
|
| {{m|Mud-Slap}}
|
|
|
|
|- align="center"
|
| {{m|Sleep Talk}}
|
|
|
|
|- align="center"
|
| {{m|Attract}}
|
|
|
|
|- align="center"
|
| {{m|Thief}}
|
|
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|
|- align="center"
|
| {{m|Nightmare}}
|
|
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|
|- align="center"
|
| {{m|Fury Cutter}}
|
|
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|
|- align="center"
|
| {{m|Rock Smash}}
|
|
|
|
|- align="center"
|
| {{m|Return}}
| {{m|Return}}
|
|
|
|- align="center"
|
| {{m|Frustration}}
| {{m|Frustration}}
|
|
|
|- align="center"
|
|
| {{m|Shock Wave}}
|
|
|
|- align="center"
|
|
| {{m|Facade}}
|
|
|
|- align="center"
|
|
| {{m|Overheat}}
| {{m|Overheat}}{{sup/4|DP}}
|
|
|- align="center"
|
|
| {{m|Secret Power}}
| {{m|Secret Power}}
|
|
|- align="center"
|
|
| {{m|Skill Swap}}
| {{m|Skill Swap}}
|
|
|- align="center"
|
|
|
| {{m|Stealth Rock}}
|
|
|- align="center"
|
|
|
| {{m|Grass Knot}}
|
|
|- align="center"
|
|
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| {{m|Drain Punch}}
|
|
|- align="center"
|
|
|
| {{m|Focus Blast}}
| {{m|Focus Blast}}
|
|- align="center"
|
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|
| {{m|Snarl}}
|
|- align="center"
|
|
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|
| {{m|Frost Breath}}
| {{m|Frost Breath}}
|- align="center"
|
|
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|
| {{m|Dazzling Gleam}}
|- align="center"
|
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|
| {{m|Infestation}}
|}
|}

==Returning moves==
Several moves taught by TM in an earlier generation returned as TMs later on after being absent, but assigned with a different TM number.

{| align="center" style="background: #{{x color}}; {{roundy}} 5px solid #{{y color}};"
|-
! Changed TMs
|- align="center"
|
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{x color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align="center" style="background:#{{y color}};"
! [[Move|Move]]
! [[Generation I|Gen I]]
! [[Generation II|Gen II]]
! [[Generation III|Gen III]]
! [[Generation IV|Gen IV]]
! [[Generation V|Gen V]]
! [[Generation VI|Gen VI]]
|- align="center"
| {{m|Dark Pulse}}
| —
| —
| —
| 79
| —
| 97
|- align="center"
| {{m|Dream Eater}}
| 42
| 42
| —
| 85
| 85
| 85
|- align="center"
| {{m|Endure}}
| —
| 20
| —
| 58
| —
| —
|- align="center"
| {{m|Explosion}}
| 47
| —
| —
| 64
| 64
| 64
|- align="center"
| {{m|Psych Up}}
| —
| 09
| —
| 77
| 77
| 77
|- align="center"
| {{m|Rock Slide}}
| 48
| —
| —
| 80
| 80
| 80
|- align="center"
| {{m|Roost}}
| —
| —
| —
| 51
| —
| 19
|- align="center"
| {{m|Sleep Talk}}
| —
| 35
| —
| 82
| —
| 88
|- align="center"
| {{m|Steel Wing}}
| —
| 47
| 47
| 47
| —
| 51
|- align="center"
| {{m|Substitute}}
| 50
| —
| —
| 90
| 90
| 90
|- align="center"
| {{m|Swagger}}
| —
| 34
| —
| 87
| 87
| 87
|- align="center"
| {{m|Swords Dance}}
| 03
| —
| —
| 75
| 75
| 75
|- align="center"
| {{m|Thunder Wave}}
| 45
| —
| —
| 73
| 73
| 73
|}
|}

==In the anime==
===In the core series===
Even though TMs and HMs have not appeared in the {{pkmn|anime}}, there are known cases of Pokémon learning TM moves they are compatible with naturally, such as [[Dawn's Buneary]], who knew {{m|Ice Beam}} before being captured. There are also cases of Pokémon learning TMs through practice and [[Move tutor|tutoring]], such as [[Ash's Swellow]]'s {{m|Aerial Ace}}.

===In Pokémon Origins===
[[File:Technical Machine PO.png|220px|thumb|TM34 in ''Pokémon Origins'']]
{{TM|34|Bide}} made an appearance in the ''[[Pokémon Origins]]'' episode ''[[PO01|File 1 - Red]]''. Much like in {{game|Red and Blue|s}}, it was given to {{OBP|Red|Origins}} by [[Brock]] as a reward for defeating him in a [[Gym]] {{pkmn|battle}}.

Another TM, {{TM|28|Dig}}, also made a brief appearance in ''[[PO02|File 2 - Cubone]]'', where Red retrieved it from a {{tc|Team Rocket Grunt}} who had stolen it.
{{right clear}}

==In the TCG==
In the TCG, [[List of all Technical Machine Cards|Technical Machines]] are types of {{TCG|Trainer card}}s. Unlike the games, they do not follow any specific numbering.

{{cardlist/header|Techincal Machines|Colorless|char=yes}}
{{cardlist/entry|cardname={{TCG ID|VS|Falkner's TM 01|103}}|type=Trainer|type2=Technical Machine|jpset=Pokémon VS|jprarity=Uncommon|jpnum=103/141}}
{{cardlist/entry|cardname={{TCG ID|VS|Falkner's TM 02|104}}|type=Trainer|type2=Technical Machine|jpset=Pokémon VS|jprarity=Uncommon|jpnum=104/141}}
{{cardlist/entry|cardname={{TCG ID|VS|Bugsy's TM 01|105}}|type=Trainer|type2=Technical Machine|jpset=Pokémon VS|jprarity=Uncommon|jpnum=105/141}}
{{cardlist/entry|cardname={{TCG ID|VS|Bugsy's TM 02|106}}|type=Trainer|type2=Technical Machine|jpset=Pokémon VS|jprarity=Uncommon|jpnum=106/141}}
{{cardlist/entry|cardname={{TCG ID|VS|Whitney's TM 01|107}}|type=Trainer|type2=Technical Machine|jpset=Pokémon VS|jprarity=Uncommon|jpnum=107/141}}
{{cardlist/entry|cardname={{TCG ID|VS|Whitney's TM 02|108}}|type=Trainer|type2=Technical Machine|jpset=Pokémon VS|jprarity=Uncommon|jpnum=108/141}}
{{cardlist/entry|cardname={{TCG ID|VS|Morty's TM 01|109}}|type=Trainer|type2=Technical Machine|jpset=Pokémon VS|jprarity=Uncommon|jpnum=109/141}}
{{cardlist/entry|cardname={{TCG ID|VS|Morty's TM 02|110}}|type=Trainer|type2=Technical Machine|jpset=Pokémon VS|jprarity=Uncommon|jpnum=110/141}}
{{cardlist/entry|cardname={{TCG ID|VS|Jasmine's TM 01|111}}|type=Trainer|type2=Technical Machine|jpset=Pokémon VS|jprarity=Uncommon|jpnum=111/141}}
{{cardlist/entry|cardname={{TCG ID|VS|Jasmine's TM 02|112}}|type=Trainer|type2=Technical Machine|jpset=Pokémon VS|jprarity=Uncommon|jpnum=112/141}}
{{cardlist/entry|cardname={{TCG ID|VS|Chuck's TM 01|113}}|type=Trainer|type2=Technical Machine|jpset=Pokémon VS|jprarity=Uncommon|jpnum=113/141}}
{{cardlist/entry|cardname={{TCG ID|VS|Chuck's TM 02|114}}|type=Trainer|type2=Technical Machine|jpset=Pokémon VS|jprarity=Uncommon|jpnum=114/141}}
{{cardlist/entry|cardname={{TCG ID|VS|Pryce's TM 01|115}}|type=Trainer|type2=Technical Machine|jpset=Pokémon VS|jprarity=Uncommon|jpnum=115/141}}
{{cardlist/entry|cardname={{TCG ID|VS|Pryce's TM 02|116}}|type=Trainer|type2=Technical Machine|jpset=Pokémon VS|jprarity=Uncommon|jpnum=116/141}}
{{cardlist/entry|cardname={{TCG ID|VS|Clair's TM 01|117}}|type=Trainer|type2=Technical Machine|jpset=Pokémon VS|jprarity=Uncommon|jpnum=117/141}}
{{cardlist/entry|cardname={{TCG ID|VS|Clair's TM 02|118}}|type=Trainer|type2=Technical Machine|jpset=Pokémon VS|jprarity=Uncommon|jpnum=118/141}}
{{cardlist/entry|cardname={{TCG ID|VS|Janine's TM 01|119}}|type=Trainer|type2=Technical Machine|jpset=Pokémon VS|jprarity=Uncommon|jpnum=119/141}}
{{cardlist/entry|cardname={{TCG ID|VS|Janine's TM 02|120}}|type=Trainer|type2=Technical Machine|jpset=Pokémon VS|jprarity=Uncommon|jpnum=120/141}}
{{cardlist/entry|cardname={{TCG ID|VS|Will's TM 01|121}}|type=Trainer|type2=Technical Machine|jpset=Pokémon VS|jprarity=Uncommon|jpnum=121/141}}
{{cardlist/entry|cardname={{TCG ID|VS|Will's TM 02|122}}|type=Trainer|type2=Technical Machine|jpset=Pokémon VS|jprarity=Uncommon|jpnum=122/141}}
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==Trivia==
* 165 different moves have been available as a TM, adding together the TMs from every generation.
* [[Gym Leader]]s who give out a TM on their defeat typically give out one containing a move of their [[Type specialist|specialty type]]. However, in their respective first generation of an appearance each, [[Brock]] and [[Falkner]] do not, giving out {{TM|34|Bide}} (a {{type|Normal}} move) and {{TM|31|Mud-Slap}} (a {{type|Ground}} move), respectively. This is rectified in the [[remake]]s of their debut games with Brock giving away {{TM|39|Rock Tomb}} while Falkner's prize is {{TM|51|Roost}}. Likewise, [[Cilan]], [[Chili]] and [[Cress]] do not give out TMs matching their specialty type, instead giving out the {{type|Normal}} {{TM|83|Work Up}}, regardless of which of the three is battled.
** Prior to Generation III, TMs given out by the starting region's Gym Leaders teach moves that no Pokémon learns naturally. There is one exception: in {{g|Yellow}}, {{ga|Red's Pikachu}} learns {{m|Thunderbolt}} in place of {{m|Swift}}.
* Until Generation V, [[TM01]] always taught a move that involved punching; it was {{m|Mega Punch}} in Generation I, {{m|DynamicPunch}} in Generation II, and {{m|Focus Punch}} in Generations III and IV. The current TM01, {{m|Hone Claws}}, still involves the appendages.
*Many TMs have remained the same for several generations:
** TMs {{m|Toxic|06}}, {{m|Blizzard|14}}, {{m|Hyper Beam|15}}, {{m|SolarBeam|22}}, {{m|Thunder|25}}, {{m|Earthquake|26}}, {{m|Dig|28}}, {{m|Psychic|29}}, {{m|Double Team|32}}, {{m|Fire Blast|38}}, and {{m|Rest|44}} have contained the same move in all six generations.
** TMs [[TM05|05]] ({{m|Mega Kick}}/{{m|Roar}}), [[TM10|10]] ({{m|Double-Edge}}/{{m|Hidden Power}}), [[TM11|11]] ({{m|BubbleBeam}}/{{m|Sunny Day}}), [[TM17|17]] ({{m|Submission}}/{{m|Protect}}), [[TM18|18]] ({{m|Counter}}/{{m|Rain Dance}}), [[TM21|21]] ({{m|Mega Drain}}/{{m|Frustration}}), [[TM27|27]] ({{m|Fissure}}/{{m|Return}}), [[TM30|30]] ({{m|Teleport}}/{{m|Shadow Ball}}), [[TM36|36]] ({{m|Selfdestruct}}/{{m|Sludge Bomb}}), [[TM37|37]] ({{m|Egg Bomb}}/{{m|Sandstorm}}), [[TM45|45]] ({{m|Thunder Wave}}/{{m|Attract}}) and [[TM46|46]] ({{m|Psywave}}/{{m|Thief}}) have contained the same move since Generation II.
**TMs [[TM19|19]] ({{m|Seismic Toss}}/{{m|Giga Drain}}/{{m|Telekinesis}}), [[TM23|23]] ({{m|Dragon Rage}}/{{m|Iron Tail}}/{{m|Smack Down}}) and [[TM47|47]] ({{m|Explosion}}/{{m|Steel Wing}}/{{m|Low Sweep}}) taught the same move in Generations II-IV, but two different ones in Generations I and V.
** TMs [[TM13|13]] ({{m|Ice Beam}}/{{m|Snore}}), [[TM24|24]] ({{m|Thunderbolt}}/{{m|DragonBreath}}), and [[TM33|33]] ({{m|Reflect}}/{{m|Ice Punch}}) are the only TMs that taught one move in Generation I, a different one in Generation II, and then returned to the move they taught in Generation I in Generations III to V.
** TMs [[TM39|39]] ({{m|Swift}}/{{m|Rock Tomb}}) and [[TM42|42]] ({{m|Dream Eater}}/{{m|Facade}}) had the same move in Generations I and II, but a different one in Generations III to V.
* TMs [[TM01|01]] ({{m|Mega Punch}}/{{m|DynamicPunch}}/{{m|Focus Punch}}/{{m|Hone Claws}}), [[TM03|03]] ({{m|Swords Dance}}/{{m|Curse}}/{{m|Water Pulse}}/{{m|Psyshock}}), [[TM09|09]] ({{m|Take Down}}/{{m|Psych Up}}/{{m|Bullet Seed}}/{{m|Venoshock}}), [[TM34|34]] ({{m|Bide}}/{{m|Swagger}}/{{m|Shock Wave}}/{{m|Sludge Wave}}), [[TM43|43]] ({{m|Sky Attack}}/{{m|Detect}}/{{m|Secret Power}}/{{m|Flame Charge}}), [[TM48|48]] ({{m|Rock Slide}}/{{m|Fire Punch}}/{{m|Skill Swap}}/{{m|Round}}), and [[TM49|49]] ({{m|Tri Attack}}/{{m|Fury Cutter}}/{{m|Snatch}}/{{m|Echoed Voice}}) are the only TMs that have taught four different moves.
** No TM has taught a different move in every generation because every Generation III TM was retained for Generation IV.
* 24 of the 50 TMs in Generation I taught {{type|Normal}} moves, and no TMs taught {{t|Bug}}- or {{type|Ghost}} moves. In Generation II, all types had a TM except for {{t|Flying}}, and finally, in Generation III, {{t|Bug}} was again without a TM. Generation IV is the first generation in which there is at least one TM that teaches a move of each Pokémon type.
* {{m|Curse}}, the only move that was ever {{type|???}} in the [[core series]] games, is taught by [[TM03]] in Generation II.
* {{m|Rock Smash}}, which was [[TM08]] in Generation II, became [[HM06]] in Generation III and IV and then returned to its TM status in Generation V, as [[TM94]].
* {{m|Flash}}, which was [[HM05]] in Generations I, II, and III became [[TM70]] in Generation IV.
* With few exceptions, all Pokémon who are compatible with TMs can learn the following moves:
** Generation I: [[TM06|06]] ({{m|Toxic}}), [[TM10|10]] ({{m|Double-Edge}}), [[TM20|20]] ({{m|Rage}}), [[TM31|31]] ({{m|Mimic}}), [[TM32|32]] ({{m|Double Team}}), [[TM34|34]] ({{m|Bide}}), [[TM44|44]] ({{m|Rest}}), [[TM50|50]] ({{m|Substitute}}).
** Generation II: [[TM03|03]] ({{m|Curse}}), [[TM06|06]] ({{m|Toxic}}), [[TM10|10]] ({{m|Hidden Power}}), [[TM13|13]] ({{m|Snore}}), [[TM17|17]] ({{m|Protect}}), [[TM20|20]] ({{m|Endure}}), [[TM21|21]] ({{m|Frustration}}), [[TM27|27]] ({{m|Return}}), [[TM32|32]] ({{m|Double Team}}), [[TM34|34]] ({{m|Swagger}}), [[TM35|35]] ({{m|Sleep Talk}}), [[TM44|44]] ({{m|Rest}}), [[TM45|45]] ({{m|Attract}}).
** Generation III: [[TM06|06]] ({{m|Toxic}}), [[TM10|10]] ({{m|Hidden Power}}), [[TM17|17]] ({{m|Protect}}), [[TM21|21]] ({{m|Frustration}}), [[TM27|27]] ({{m|Return}}), [[TM32|32]] ({{m|Double Team}}), [[TM42|42]] ({{m|Facade}}), [[TM43|43]] ({{m|Secret Power}}), [[TM44|44]] ({{m|Rest}}), [[TM45|45]] ({{m|Attract}}).
** Generation IV: [[TM06|06]] ({{m|Toxic}}), [[TM10|10]] ({{m|Hidden Power}}), [[TM17|17]] ({{m|Protect}}), [[TM21|21]] ({{m|Frustration}}), [[TM27|27]] ({{m|Return}}), [[TM32|32]] ({{m|Double Team}}), [[TM42|42]] ({{m|Facade}}), [[TM43|43]] ({{m|Secret Power}}), [[TM44|44]] ({{m|Rest}}), [[TM45|45]] ({{m|Attract}}), [[TM58|58]] ({{m|Endure}}), [[TM78|78]] ({{m|Captivate}}), [[TM82|82]] ({{m|Sleep Talk}}), [[TM83|83]] ({{m|Natural Gift}}), [[TM87|87]] ({{m|Swagger}}), [[TM90|90]] ({{m|Substitute}}).
** Generation V: [[TM06|06]] ({{m|Toxic}}), [[TM10|10]] ({{m|Hidden Power}}), [[TM17|17]] ({{m|Protect}}), [[TM21|21]] ({{m|Frustration}}), [[TM27|27]] ({{m|Return}}), [[TM32|32]] ({{m|Double Team}}), [[TM42|42]] ({{m|Facade}}), [[TM44|44]] ({{m|Rest}}), [[TM45|45]] ({{m|Attract}}), [[TM48|48]] ({{m|Round}}), [[TM87|87]] ({{m|Swagger}}), [[TM90|90]] ({{m|Substitute}}).
** Generation VI: [[TM06|06]] ({{m|Toxic}}), [[TM10|10]] ({{m|Hidden Power}}), [[TM17|17]] ({{m|Protect}}), [[TM21|21]] ({{m|Frustration}}), [[TM27|27]] ({{m|Return}}), [[TM32|32]] ({{m|Double Team}}), [[TM42|42]] ({{m|Facade}}), [[TM44|44]] ({{m|Rest}}), [[TM45|45]] ({{m|Attract}}), [[TM48|48]] ({{m|Round}}), [[TM87|87]] ({{m|Swagger}}), [[TM88|88]] ({{m|Sleep Talk}}), [[TM90|90]] ({{m|Substitute}}), [[TM100|100]] ({{m|Confide}}).
* Generation IV TMs [[TM19|19]] ({{m|Giga Drain}}), [[TM23|23]] ({{m|Iron Tail}}), [[TM48|48]] ({{m|Skill Swap}}), [[TM49|49]] ({{m|Snatch}}), [[TM51|51]] ({{m|Roost}}), [[TM59|59]] ({{m|Dragon Pulse}}), [[TM60|60]] ({{m|Drain Punch}}), [[TM67|67]] ({{m|Recycle}}), [[TM76|76]] ({{m|Stealth Rock}}), [[TM79|79]] ({{m|Dark Pulse}}), and [[TM82|82]] ({{m|Sleep Talk}}) all lost their TM status in {{g|Black and White}}, but were added back as [[Move Tutor]] moves in [[Pokémon Black and White Versions 2|Pokémon Black 2 and White 2]].
** Dark Pulse, Roost, and Sleep Talk regained their TM status in {{game|X and Y|s}}, albeit as different numbered TMs.

==In other languages==
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|it=Macchina Tecnica (MT)
}}

==See also==
* [[HM]]
* [[List of TM and HM locations]]
* [[List of all Technical Machine Cards|TMs in the Trading Card Game]]

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{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}

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HM

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[[File:Fly V OW.png|thumb|250px|HM moves, like {{m|Fly}}, have effects outside of battle.]]
A '''Hidden Machine''', '''HM''' for short (Japanese: '''{{tt|ひでんマシン|Hiden Mashin}}''' ''Secret Machine'') is an item that, like a [[TM]], is used to teach a Pokémon a move.

The difference between a TM and an HM is most pronounced in the earlier games in the series, where TMs were single-use items while HMs could be used an unlimited amount of times after they were obtained. HMs, unlike TMs, could not be sold for money, and the moves contained within could not be forgotten by Pokémon under normal circumstances. An HM move could be used by a Pokémon even if the Pokémon had fainted during battle.

All HM moves have the ability to be used outside of battle in the games they are HMs in, though a move's ability to be used outside of battle does not mean that it is necessarily an HM move. Except for Generation V, specific [[Badge]]s must be obtained by the player before they can use an HM move outside of battle to advance the game's storyline.

A Pokémon knowing an HM move cannot be sent forward from [[Generation III]] to [[Generation IV]] or from Generation IV to [[Generation V]] unless the HM move is removed (via [[Move Deleter]]). {{m|Dive}} prevents sending forward from {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}} despite not being considered an HM by those games, while {{m|Defog}} and {{m|Whirlpool}} only prevent Pokémon being sent forward from the games they are an HM in. Pokémon with Whirlpool can freely be sent into {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}} from Generation III, while Pokémon with Dive can freely be sent into Generation V games. In Generation V, Pokémon knowing an HM move cannot be traded via [[infrared]] communications if they are in the player's [[party]], to prevent a player from potentially becoming stuck somewhere that requires an HM move to escape.

==Generation I==
In Generation I, five of the 165 moves are HM moves, and their use is essential for completing the game. Of these five, four of them remain as HM moves even in [[Generation V]], while the fifth, {{m|Flash}}, retains the ability to be used outside of battle to light dark caves.

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|- style="background:#{{TMs and HMs color light}}"
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | HM
! Move
! Location found
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Badge required
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Normal|HM01}} {{color2|000|HM01}}
| {{mcolor|Cut|000}}
| [[S.S. Anne]]
| [[File:Cascade Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Cascade}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Flying|HM02}} {{color2|000|HM02}}
| {{mcolor|Fly|000}}
| {{rt|16|Kanto}}
| [[File:Thunder Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Thunder}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Water|HM03}} {{color2|000|HM03}}
| {{mcolor|Surf|000}}
| {{safari|Kanto}}
| [[File:Soul Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Soul}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Normal|HM04}} {{color2|000|HM04}}
| {{mcolor|Strength|000}}
| [[Fuchsia City]]
| [[File:Rainbow Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Rainbow}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! style="{{roundybl|5px}}" | {{bag|HM Normal|HM05}} {{color2|000|HM05}}
| {{mcolor|Flash|000}}
| {{rt|2|Kanto}}
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}" | [[File:Boulder Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Boulder}}
|}

None of these moves are able to be forgotten in Generation I, and a Pokémon with these moves cannot be raised by the [[Pokémon Day Care]] on {{rt|5|Kanto}}. Unlike in later generations, all of these moves must be selected from the Pokémon screen to be used.

==Generation II==
In Generation II two new moves become HMs. The five HMs from Generation I return, while a new move, {{m|Whirlpool}}, becomes an HM, and an old move, {{m|Waterfall}}, becomes another HM.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{TMs and HMs color}}; border: 2px solid #{{TMs and HMs color dark}};"
|- style="background:#{{TMs and HMs color light}}"
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | HM
! Move
! Location found
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Badge required
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Normal|HM01}} {{color2|000|HM01}}
| {{mcolor|Cut|000}}
| [[Ilex Forest]]
| [[File:Hive Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Hive}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Flying|HM02}} {{color2|000|HM02}}
| {{mcolor|Fly|000}}
| [[Cianwood City]]
| [[File:Storm Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Storm}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Water|HM03}} {{color2|000|HM03}}
| {{mcolor|Surf|000}}
| [[Ecruteak City]]
| [[File:Fog Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Fog}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Normal|HM04}} {{color2|000|HM04}}
| {{mcolor|Strength|000}}
| [[Olivine City]]
| [[File:Plain Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Plain}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Normal|HM05}} {{color2|000|HM05}}
| {{mcolor|Flash|000}}
| [[Sprout Tower]]
| [[File:Zephyr Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Zephyr}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Water|HM06}} {{color2|000|HM06}}
| {{mcolor|Whirlpool|000}}
| [[Team Rocket HQ|Rocket Hideout]]
| [[File:Glacier Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Glacier}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! style="{{roundybl|5px}}" | {{bag|HM Water|HM07}} {{color2|000|HM07}}
| {{mcolor|Waterfall|000}}
| [[Ice Path]]
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}" | [[File:Rising Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Rising}}
|}

A [[Move Deleter]] was added to the games, mostly with the intention of making possible the ability to delete {{cat|Generation II moves}} that a {{cat|Generation I Pokémon}} had learned in order to be able to trade it back, though with the side effect of HM moves now being able to be forgotten.

From this generation on, Pokémon with HM moves are allowed in the Day Care, and fathers with HM moves will pass the moves down to their children as they would a TM move. HM moves can also be used just by checking the obstacle that the HM will clear, such as {{m|surf}}able water or a movable rock.

==Generation III==
===Hoenn===
In Hoenn one of the Generation II HMs lost its status, while another move became the eighth HM.

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|- style="background:#{{TMs and HMs color light}}"
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | HM
! | Move
! | Location found
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Badge required
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Normal|HM01}} {{color2|000|HM01}}
| {{mcolor|Cut|000}}
| [[Rustboro City]]
| [[File:Stone Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Stone}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Flying|HM02}} {{color2|000|HM02}}
| {{mcolor|Fly|000}}
| {{rt|119|Hoenn}}
| [[File:Feather Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Feather}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Water|HM03}} {{color2|000|HM03}}
| {{mcolor|Surf|000}}
| [[Petalburg City]]
| [[File:Balance Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Balance}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Normal|HM04}} {{color2|000|HM04}}
| {{mcolor|Strength|000}}
| [[Rusturf Tunnel]]
| [[File:Heat Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Heat}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Normal|HM05}} {{color2|000|HM05}}
| {{mcolor|Flash|000}}
| [[Granite Cave]]
| [[File:Knuckle Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Knuckle}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Fighting|HM06}} {{color2|000|HM06}}
| {{mcolor|Rock Smash|000}}
| [[Mauville City]]
| [[File:Dynamo Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Dynamo}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! rowspan="2" | {{bag|HM Water|HM07}} {{color2|000|HM07}}
| rowspan="2" | {{mcolor|Waterfall|000}}
| [[Cave of Origin]]{{sup/3|RS}}
| rowspan="2" | [[File:Rain Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Rain}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
| [[Sootopolis City]]{{sup/3|E}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! style="{{roundybl|5px}}" | {{bag|HM Water|HM08}} {{color2|000|HM08}}
| {{mcolor|Dive|000}}
| [[Mossdeep City]]
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}" | [[File:Mind Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Mind}}
|}

===Kanto===
In Kanto, due to a lack of use for {{m|Dive}}, HM08 is unobtainable and can only be accessed through [[cheating]]. The first five HMs can be acquired through the same methods as in Generation I, while HM06 and HM07 can be found in the [[Sevii Islands]] later in the game.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{TMs and HMs color}}; border: 2px solid #{{TMs and HMs color dark}};"
|- style="background:#{{TMs and HMs color light}}"
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | HM
! Move
! Location found
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Badge required
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Normal|HM01}} {{color2|000|HM01}}
| {{mcolor|Cut|000}}
| [[S.S. Anne]]
| [[File:Cascade Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Cascade}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Flying|HM02}} {{color2|000|HM02}}
| {{mcolor|Fly|000}}
| {{rt|16|Kanto}}
| [[File:Thunder Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Thunder}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Water|HM03}} {{color2|000|HM03}}
| {{mcolor|Surf|000}}
| [[Kanto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]]
| [[File:Soul Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Soul}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Normal|HM04}} {{color2|000|HM04}}
| {{mcolor|Strength|000}}
| [[Fuchsia City]]
| [[File:Rainbow Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Rainbow}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Normal|HM05}} {{color2|000|HM05}}
| {{mcolor|Flash|000}}
| {{rt|2|Kanto}}
| [[File:Boulder Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Boulder}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Fighting|HM06}} {{color2|000|HM06}}
| {{mcolor|Rock Smash|000}}
| {{DL|Kindle Road|Ember Spa}}
| [[File:Marsh Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Marsh}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! style="{{roundybl|5px}}" | {{bag|HM Water|HM07}} {{color2|000|HM07}}
| {{mcolor|Waterfall|000}}
| [[Icefall Cave]]
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}" | [[File:Volcano Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Volcano}}
|}

==Generation IV==
===Sinnoh===
In Sinnoh, for the first time, one of the original HMs lost its status to a new move, while HM08 was brought back as a different move.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{TMs and HMs color}}; border: 2px solid #{{TMs and HMs color dark}};"
|- style="background:#{{TMs and HMs color light}}"
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | HM
! Move
! Location found
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Badge required
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Normal|HM01}} {{color2|000|HM01}}
| {{mcolor|Cut|000}}
| [[Eterna City]]
| [[File:Forest Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Forest}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Flying|HM02}} {{color2|000|HM02}}
| {{mcolor|Fly|000}}
| [[Veilstone City]]
| [[File:Cobble Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Cobble}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! rowspan="2" | {{bag|HM Water|HM03}} {{color2|000|HM03}}
| rowspan="2" | {{mcolor|Surf|000}}
| rowspan="2" | [[Celestic Town]]
| [[File:Relic Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Relic}}{{sup/4|DP}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
| [[File:Fen Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Fen}}{{sup/4|Pt}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! rowspan="2" | {{bag|HM Normal|HM04}} {{color2|000|HM04}}
| rowspan="2" | {{mcolor|Strength|000}}
| [[Lost Tower]]{{sup/4|DP}}
| rowspan="2" | [[File:Mine Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Mine}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
| [[Iron Island]]{{sup/4|Pt}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! rowspan="2" | {{bag|HM Flying|HM05}} {{color2|000|HM05}}
| rowspan="2" | {{mcolor|Defog|000}}
| [[Great Marsh]]{{sup/4|DP}}
| [[File:Fen Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Fen}}{{sup/4|DP}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
| [[Solaceon Ruins]]{{sup/4|Pt}}
| [[File:Relic Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Relic}}{{sup/4|Pt}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Fighting|HM06}} {{color2|000|HM06}}
| {{mcolor|Rock Smash|000}}
| [[Oreburgh Gate]]
| [[File:Coal Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Coal}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Water|HM07}} {{color2|000|HM07}}
| {{mcolor|Waterfall|000}}
| [[Sunyshore City]]
| [[File:Beacon Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Beacon}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! style="{{roundybl|5px}}" | {{bag|HM Normal|HM08}} {{color2|000|HM08}}
| {{mcolor|Rock Climb|000}}
| {{rt|217|Sinnoh}}
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}" | [[File:Icicle Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Icicle}}
|}

===Johto and Kanto===
Defog lost its HM status in Johto for the return of {{m|Whirlpool}}; all other HMs retained their status from the prior Sinnoh games.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{TMs and HMs color}}; border: 2px solid #{{TMs and HMs color dark}};"
|- style="background:#{{TMs and HMs color light}}"
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | HM
! Move
! Location found
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Badge required
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Normal|HM01}} {{color2|000|HM01}}
| {{mcolor|Cut|000}}
| [[Ilex Forest]]
| [[File:Hive Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Hive}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Flying|HM02}} {{color2|000|HM02}}
| {{mcolor|Fly|000}}
| [[Cianwood City]]
| [[File:Storm Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Storm}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Water|HM03}} {{color2|000|HM03}}
| {{mcolor|Surf|000}}
| [[Ecruteak City]]
| [[File:Fog Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Fog}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Normal|HM04}} {{color2|000|HM04}}
| {{mcolor|Strength|000}}
| {{rt|42|Johto}}
| [[File:Plain Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Plain}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Water|HM05}} {{color2|000|HM05}}
| {{mcolor|Whirlpool|000}}
| [[Team Rocket HQ]]
| [[File:Glacier Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Glacier}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Fighting|HM06}} {{color2|000|HM06}}
| {{mcolor|Rock Smash|000}}
| {{rt|36|Johto}}
| [[File:Zephyr Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Zephyr}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Water|HM07}} {{color2|000|HM07}}
| {{mcolor|Waterfall|000}}
| [[Ice Path]]
| [[File:Rising Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Rising}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! style="{{roundybl|5px}}" | {{bag|HM Normal|HM08}} {{color2|000|HM08}}
| {{mcolor|Rock Climb|000}}
| [[Pallet Town]]
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}" | [[File:Earth Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Earth}}
|}

==Generation V==
HMs were reduced to six in Generation V; HM07 and HM08 no longer exist in the coding of {{game|Black and White|s}}. Dive returns for use in Unova. This generation marks the first time that HM moves do not require Gym Badges for use outside of battle. Although most HM moves cannot be obtained before earning certain Gym Badges, if the player obtains a Pokémon that has learned an HM move through other means (via [[Level|level-up]], [[Trade|trading]], etc.) the player will be able to use the HM in the field without restrictions.

When a move is replaced by an HM, the HM move takes on the current PP of the replaced move until [[Pokémon Center|healed]] or [[Ether|replenished]]. The same also applies for replacing old moves with TMs.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{TMs and HMs color}}; border: 2px solid #{{TMs and HMs color dark}};"
|- style="background:#{{TMs and HMs color light}}"
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | HM
! Move
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Location found
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Normal|HM01}} {{color2|000|HM01}}
| {{mcolor|Cut|000}}
| [[Striaton City]]{{sup/5|BW}}
[[Virbank City]] {{sup/5|B2W2}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Flying|HM02}} {{color2|000|HM02}}
| {{mcolor|Fly|000}}
| [[Driftveil City]] {{sup/5|BW}}
[[Unova Route 5|Route 5]] {{sup/5|B2W2}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Water|HM03}} {{color2|000|HM03}}
| {{mcolor|Surf|000}}
| [[Twist Mountain]] {{sup/5|BW}}
[[Unova Route 6|Route 6]] {{sup/5|B2W2}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Normal|HM04}} {{color2|000|HM04}}
| {{mcolor|Strength|000}}
| [[Nimbasa City]] {{sup/5|BW}}
[[Castelia Sewers]] {{sup/5|B2W2}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Water|HM05}} {{color2|000|HM05}}
| {{mcolor|Waterfall|000}}
| {{rt|18|Unova}}{{sup/5|BW}}
{{OBP|Victory Road|Black 2 and White 2}}{{sup/5|B2W2}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! style="{{roundybl|5px}}" | {{bag|HM Water|HM06}} {{color2|000|HM06}}
| {{mcolor|Dive|000}}
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}" | [[Undella Town]]
|}

==Generation VI==
HMs were reduced to five in Generation VI, with HM06 being removed. The HMs are the same as Generation V. HMs have returned to requiring a Badge to use them.

When a move is replaced by an HM, the HM move takes on the current PP of the replaced move until [[Pokémon Center|healed]] or [[Ether|replenished]]. The same also applies for replacing old moves with TMs.

Though [[Rock Smash (move)|Rock Smash]] is no longer an HM, unlike Generation V, it can still be used outside of battle.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{TMs and HMs color}}; border: 2px solid #{{TMs and HMs color dark}};"
|- style="background:#{{TMs and HMs color light}}"
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | HM
! Move
! Location found
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Badge required
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Normal|HM01}} {{color2|000|HM01}}
| {{mcolor|Cut|000}}
| [[Parfum Palace]]
| [[File:Bug Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Bug}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Flying|HM02}} {{color2|000|HM02}}
| {{mcolor|Fly|000}}
| [[Coumarine City]]
| [[File:Plant Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Plant}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Water|HM03}} {{color2|000|HM03}}
| {{mcolor|Surf|000}}
| [[Shalour City]]
| [[File:Rumble Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Rumble}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! {{bag|HM Normal|HM04}} {{color2|000|HM04}}
| {{mcolor|Strength|000}}
| [[Cyllage City]]
| [[File:Cliff Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Cliff}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF"
! style="{{roundybl|5px}}" | {{bag|HM Water|HM05}} {{color2|000|HM05}}
| {{mcolor|Waterfall|000}}
| {{rt|19|Kalos}}
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}" | [[File:Iceberg Badge.png|40px]] {{Badge|Iceberg}}
|}

==In the anime==
[[File:Hidden Machine PO.png|220px|thumb|HM01 in ''Pokémon Origins'']]
===In Pokémon Origins===
{{HM|01|Cut}} made an appearance in the ''[[Pokémon Origins]]'' episode ''[[PO02|File 2 - Cubone]]''. Much like in {{game|Red and Blue|s}}, it was given to {{OBP|Red|Origins}} by the captain of [[S.S. Anne]] after helping him recover from his seasickness.
{{right clear}}

==Trivia==
* {{m|Rock Smash}} is the only HM with a unique type. All other HM moves share their type with at least one other HM move.
* [[Tracey's Scyther]] is the first Pokémon belonging to a main character of the anime to have used a current HM move, {{m|Cut}}. It wasn't until the {{series|Diamond & Pearl}} that one of {{Ash}}'s Pokémon used a current HM move; [[Ash's Grotle]] used {{m|Rock Climb}}.
** Although debatable, other Pokémon may have used {{m|Surf}}, {{m|Dive}}, and {{m|Fly}} throughout the anime; although, they were not directly ordered to use the move.
* The only current HM moves that are able to be learned by Pokémon by level-up are {{m|Fly}} and {{m|Waterfall}}. Former HMs {{m|Flash}}, {{m|Whirlpool}}, {{m|Defog}}, {{m|Rock Smash}}, {{m|Rock Climb}}, and {{m|Dive}}, are also learnable by level, but only since their loss of HM status. Moves that regain their HM status, like Whirlpool and Dive did, remain learnable by level-up. Waterfall remains the only HM move that has been learnable by level-up since it was introduced as a move, prior to gaining HM status.
* In Generation IV, all moves that were at one time an HM are learnable, with Flash being available by [[TM70]] and Dive being available by [[Move Tutor]]. Defog and Whirlpool, which replace each other in the [[Sinnoh]]- and [[Johto]]-based games, are both HM05.
** [[Generation IV]] is the only generation in which two moves share the same HM number.
* HM moves have so far been only of the {{t|Flying}}, {{t|Fighting}}, {{t|Water}}, and {{t|Normal}} types.
* The only HM moves that are [[status move]]s so far are related to [[accuracy]]: {{m|Flash}} decreases the foe's accuracy while {{m|Defog}} decreases the foe's [[evasion]].
* In {{game2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}, on {{rt|20|Kanto}}, Swimmer Lori states "{{m|Surf}} is no longer the only HM move you use in water" when he is defeated. This is a reference to [[Generation I]], where the only HM usable in the water was Surf.
* The only way for the player to delete an HM move in the handheld games is to use the Move Deleter. Note that "HM moves" are not always HMs in every game, and can be replaced freely in games where they are not HMs:
** {{g|Stadium 2}}, {{g|Colosseum}} and {{Pokémon XD}} allow any move to be replaced.
** {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}} allow {{m|Dive}} to be forgotten.
** {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}} allow {{m|Dive}}, {{m|Flash}}, and {{m|Whirlpool}} to be forgotten.
** {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}} allow {{m|Defog}}, {{m|Dive}}, and {{m|Flash}} to be forgotten.
** {{game|Black and White|s|Pokémon Black, White}}, {{game|Black and White|s|Black 2, and White 2|2}} allow {{m|Flash}} and {{m|Rock Smash}} to be forgotten.
* A Pokémon knowing an HM move that is left in the Day Care may forget the HM move in favor of a new move; see [[Pokémon Day Care#Overview|Day Care]].
* The HM moves {{m|Cut}}, {{m|Fly}}, {{m|Surf}}, and {{m|Strength}} have been in every main-series Pokémon game. Out of these, only Fly is able to be learned in any way aside from using the HM.
* The {{badge|Mineral}} of Johto is the only Badge, prior to [[Generation V]], which does not enable the use of an HM in any game it is present in.
* Dive is the only HM in Generation V that is not found in a different location between Black & White and Black 2 & White 2.

==In other languages==
{{langtable|color={{TMs and HMs color light}}|bordercolor={{TMs and HMs color}}
|da=Skjult maskine
|de=Versteckte Maschine (VM)
|es_eu=Máquina Oculta (MO)
|fr_eu=Capsule Secrète (CS)
|it=Macchina Nascosta (MN)
}}

==See also==
* [[List of TM and HM locations]]
* [[TM]]
* [[HM slave]]

{{Mystery Dungeon items}} 
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}

[[Category:Games]]
[[Category:Equipment]]
[[Category:HMs|*]]
[[Category:Terminology]]
[[Category:Pokémon Mystery Dungeon items]]

[[it:MN]]

[[de:Versteckte Maschine]]
[[es:Máquina Oculta]]
[[fr:CS]]
[[ja:ひでんマシン]]
[[pl:Hidden Machine]]
[[zh:秘传技学习器]]

Thunderbolt (move)

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{{MoveInfobox|
n=85 |
name=Thunderbolt |
jname=１０まんボルト |
jtranslit=Jūman Boruto |
jtrans=100,000 Volts |
gameimage=Thunderbolt V.png |
type=Electric |
damagecategory=Special |
basepp=15 |
maxpp=24 |
power={{tt|90|95 in Generation I-V}} |
accuracy=100 |
bdesc=??? |
gen=I |
category=Cool |
appeal=4 |
jam=0 |
cdesc=A highly appealing move. |
appealsc=2 |
scdesc=Earn +2 if the Pokémon performs first in the turn. |
pokefordex=thunderbolt |
touches=no |
protect=yes |
magiccoat=no |
snatch=no |
brightpowder=yes |
kingsrock=no |
flag7=no |
flag8=no |
sound=no |
tm1=yes|
tm#1=24|
tm3=yes|
tm#3=24|
tm4=yes|
tm#4=24|
tm5=yes|
tm#5=24|
tm6=yes|
tm#6=24|
mtc=yes|
na=no|
target=anyadjacent|
footnotes= }}
'''Thunderbolt''' (Japanese: '''１０まんボルト''' ''100,000 Volts'') is a damage-dealing {{type|Electric}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation I]]. It was [[TM24]] in Generation I before losing its status in Generation II. It returned to being TM24 from Generation III onwards.

==Effect==
===Generations I to V===
Thunderbolt does damage and has a 10% chance of {{status|Paralysis|paralyzing}} the target.

===Generation VI===
Same as the previous generations, but Thunderbolt's power changed from 95 to 90.

==Description==
{{movedesc|electric}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|Stad}}{{gameabbrev3|Stad2}}|An <sc>Electric</sc>-type attack. Has a one-in-ten chance of paralyzing the target.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|GSC}}|An attack that may cause paralysis.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|RSE}}|A strong electrical attack that may paralyze the foe.{{tt|*|Move}} A powerful electric attack that may cause paralysis.{{tt|*|TM}}}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|FRLG}}|A strong electrical attack that may also leave the foe paralyzed.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|Colo}}{{gameabbrev3|XD}}|A strong electrical attack. It may paralyze the target.{{tt|*|Move}} A powerful electric attack that may cause paralysis.{{tt|*|TM}}}}
{{movedescentry|PMD{{color2|{{md red color}}|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|R}}{{color2|{{md blue color}}|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|B}}|Damages all foes around the user. It may also cause paralysis and prevent any attacks or moves.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|DPPt}}{{gameabbrev3|HGSS}}|A strong electric blast is loosed at the foe. It may also leave the foe paralyzed.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|BWB2W2}}[[Pokémon Conquest|Conq]]|A strong electric blast is loosed at the target. It may also leave the target with paralysis.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|XY}}|A strong electric blast crashes down on the target. This may also leave the target with paralysis.}}
|}
|}{{left clear}}

==Learnset==
===By [[Level|leveling up]]===
{{Moveheader/Level|Electric|1}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|025|Pikachu|1|Electric|Electric|Y=26|no|26|26|26|29|29|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|026|Raichu|1|Electric|Electric|no|--|--|--|--|--|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|125|Electabuzz|1|Electric|Electric|no|47|47|43|50|B2W2=49|49|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|239|Elekid|1|Electric|Electric|no|41|41|37|46|B2W2=40|40|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|466|Electivire|1|Electric|Electric|no|no|no|43|50|B2W2=49|49|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|603|Eelektrik|1|Electric|Electric|no|no|no|no|44|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|618|Stunfisk|2|Ground|Electric|no|no|no|no|45|45|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|644|Zekrom|2|Dragon|Electric|no|no|no|no|22|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|694|Helioptile|2|Electric|Normal|no|no|no|no|no|49|STAB='''}}
{{Movefooter|Electric|1}}

===By {{pkmn|breeding}}===
{{Moveheader/Breed|Electric|2}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|179|Mareep|1|Electric|Electric|{{MSP|025|Pikachu}}{{MSP|026|Raichu}}|no|no|no|STAB='''}}
{{Movefooter|Electric|2}}

===By [[TM]]===
{{Moveheader/TM|Electric|1|TM24|no|TM24|TM24|TM24|TM24}}
{{moveentry/TM1|019|Rattata|1|Normal|Normal|yes|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|020|Raticate|1|Normal|Normal|yes|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|025|Pikachu|1|Electric|Electric|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|026|Raichu|1|Electric|Electric|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|029|Nidoran♀|1|Poison|Poison|yes|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|030|Nidorina|1|Poison|Poison|yes|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|031|Nidoqueen|2|Poison|Ground|yes|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|032|Nidoran♂|1|Poison|Poison|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|033|Nidorino|1|Poison|Poison|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|034|Nidoking|2|Poison|Ground|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|035|Clefairy|1|Fairy|Fairy|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|036|Clefable|1|Fairy|Fairy|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|039|Jigglypuff|2|Normal|Fairy|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|040|Wigglytuff|2|Normal|Fairy|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|052|Meowth|1|Normal|Normal|yes|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|053|Persian|1|Normal|Normal|yes|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|056|Mankey|1|Fighting|Fighting|yes|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|057|Primeape|1|Fighting|Fighting|yes|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|081|Magnemite|2|Electric|Steel|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|082|Magneton|2|Electric|Steel|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|088|Grimer|1|Poison|Poison|yes|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|089|Muk|1|Poison|Poison|yes|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|092|Gastly|2|Ghost|Poison|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|093|Haunter|2|Ghost|Poison|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|094|Gengar|2|Ghost|Poison|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|100|Voltorb|1|Electric|Electric|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|101|Electrode|1|Electric|Electric|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|108|Lickitung|1|Normal|Normal|yes|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|109|Koffing|1|Poison|Poison|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|110|Weezing|1|Poison|Poison|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|111|Rhyhorn|2|Ground|Rock|yes|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|112|Rhydon|2|Ground|Rock|yes|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|113|Chansey|1|Normal|Normal|yes|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|115|Kangaskhan|1|Normal|Normal|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|120|Staryu|1|Water|Water|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|121|Starmie|2|Water|Psychic|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|122|Mr. Mime|2|Psychic|Fairy|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|125|Electabuzz|1|Electric|Electric|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|128|Tauros|1|Normal|Normal|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|130|Gyarados|2|Water|Flying|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|131|Lapras|2|Water|Ice|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|135|Jolteon|1|Electric|Electric|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|137|Porygon|1|Normal|Normal|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|143|Snorlax|1|Normal|Normal|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|145|Zapdos|2|Electric|Flying|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|147|Dratini|1|Dragon|Dragon|yes|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|148|Dragonair|1|Dragon|Dragon|yes|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|149|Dragonite|2|Dragon|Flying|yes|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|150|Mewtwo|1|Psychic|Psychic|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|151|Mew|1|Psychic|Psychic|yes|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|161|Sentret|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|162|Furret|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|170|Chinchou|2|Water|Electric|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|171|Lanturn|2|Water|Electric|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|172|Pichu|1|Electric|Electric|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|179|Mareep|1|Electric|Electric|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|180|Flaaffy|1|Electric|Electric|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|181|Ampharos|1|Electric|Electric|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|190|Aipom|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|200|Misdreavus|1|Ghost|Ghost|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|203|Girafarig|2|Normal|Psychic|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|206|Dunsparce|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|209|Snubbull|1|Fairy|Fairy|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|210|Granbull|1|Fairy|Fairy|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|233|Porygon2|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|234|Stantler|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|239|Elekid|1|Electric|Electric|no|no|yes|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|241|Miltank|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|242|Blissey|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|243|Raikou|1|Electric|Electric|no|no|yes|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|248|Tyranitar|2|Rock|Dark|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|249|Lugia|2|Psychic|Flying|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|250|Ho-Oh|2|Fire|Flying|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|263|Zigzagoon|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|264|Linoone|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|280|Ralts|2|Psychic|Fairy|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|281|Kirlia|2|Psychic|Fairy|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|282|Gardevoir|2|Psychic|Fairy|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|287|Slakoth|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|288|Vigoroth|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|289|Slaking|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|299|Nosepass|1|Rock|Rock|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|300|Skitty|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|301|Delcatty|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|306|Aggron|2|Steel|Rock|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|309|Electrike|1|Electric|Electric|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|310|Manectric|1|Electric|Electric|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|311|Plusle|1|Electric|Electric|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|312|Minun|1|Electric|Electric|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|313|Volbeat|1|Bug|Bug|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|314|Illumise|1|Bug|Bug|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|335|Zangoose|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|351|Castform|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|352|Kecleon|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|353|Shuppet|1|Ghost|Ghost|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|354|Banette|1|Ghost|Ghost|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|359|Absol|1|Dark|Dark|no|no|yes|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|377|Regirock|1|Rock|Rock|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|378|Regice|1|Ice|Ice|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|379|Registeel|1|Steel|Steel|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|380|Latias|2|Dragon|Psychic|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|381|Latios|2|Dragon|Psychic|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|382|Kyogre|1|Water|Water|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|383|Groudon|1|Ground|Ground|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|384|Rayquaza|2|Dragon|Flying|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|385|Jirachi|2|Steel|Psychic|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|386|Deoxys|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|399|Bidoof|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|400|Bibarel|2|Normal|Water|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|403|Shinx|1|Electric|Electric|no|no|no|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|404|Luxio|1|Electric|Electric|no|no|no|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|405|Luxray|1|Electric|Electric|no|no|no|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|408|Cranidos|1|Rock|Rock|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|409|Rampardos|1|Rock|Rock|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|410|Shieldon|2|Rock|Steel|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|411|Bastiodon|2|Rock|Steel|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|417|Pachirisu|1|Electric|Electric|no|no|no|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|424|Ambipom|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|425|Drifloon|2|Ghost|Flying|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|426|Drifblim|2|Ghost|Flying|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|427|Buneary|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|428|Lopunny|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|429|Mismagius|1|Ghost|Ghost|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|431|Glameow|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|432|Purugly|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|439|Mime Jr.|2|Psychic|Fairy|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|446|Munchlax|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|462|Magnezone|2|Electric|Steel|no|no|no|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|463|Lickilicky|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|464|Rhyperior|2|Ground|Rock|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|466|Electivire|1|Electric|Electric|no|no|no|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|467|Magmortar|1|Fire|Fire|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|474|Porygon-Z|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|475|Gallade|2|Psychic|Fighting|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|476|Probopass|2|Rock|Steel|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|478|Froslass|2|Ice|Ghost|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|479|Rotom|2|Electric|Ghost|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|480|Uxie|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|481|Mesprit|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|482|Azelf|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|483|Dialga|2|Steel|Dragon|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|484|Palkia|2|Water|Dragon|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|486|Regigigas|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|487|Giratina|2|Ghost|Dragon|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|491|Darkrai|1|Dark|Dark|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|493|Arceus|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|yes|yes|STAB=''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|494|Victini|2|Psychic|Fire|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|504|Patrat|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|505|Watchog|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|506|Lillipup|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|507|Herdier|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|508|Stoutland|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|522|Blitzle|1|Electric|Electric|no|no|no|no|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|523|Zebstrika|1|Electric|Electric|no|no|no|no|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|531|Audino|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|569|Garbodor|1|Poison|Poison|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|572|Minccino|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|573|Cinccino|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|574|Gothita|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|575|Gothorita|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|576|Gothitelle|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|587|Emolga|2|Electric|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|595|Joltik|2|Bug|Electric|no|no|no|no|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|596|Galvantula|2|Bug|Electric|no|no|no|no|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|597|Ferroseed|2|Grass|Steel|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|598|Ferrothorn|2|Grass|Steel|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|599|Klink|1|Steel|Steel|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|600|Klang|1|Steel|Steel|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|601|Klinklang|1|Steel|Steel|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|603|Eelektrik|1|Electric|Electric|no|no|no|no|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|604|Eelektross|1|Electric|Electric|no|no|no|no|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|605|Elgyem|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|606|Beheeyem|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|618|Stunfisk|2|Ground|Electric|no|no|no|no|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|623|Golurk|2|Ground|Ghost|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|642|Thundurus|2|Electric|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|644|Zekrom|2|Dragon|Electric|no|no|no|no|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|648|Meloetta|2|Normal|Psychic|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|649|Genesect|2|Bug|Steel|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|677|Espurr|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|678|Meowstic|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|682|Spritzee|1|Fairy|Fairy|no|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|683|Aromatisse|1|Fairy|Fairy|no|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|684|Swirlix|1|Fairy|Fairy|no|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|685|Slurpuff|1|Fairy|Fairy|no|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|686|Inkay|2|Dark|Psychic|no|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|687|Malamar|2|Dark|Psychic|no|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|690|Skrelp|2|Poison|Water|no|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|691|Dragalge|2|Poison|Dragon|no|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|694|Helioptile|2|Electric|Normal|no|no|no|no|no|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|695|Heliolisk|2|Electric|Normal|no|no|no|no|no|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|698|Amaura|2|Rock|Ice|no|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|699|Aurorus|2|Rock|Ice|no|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|702|Dedenne|2|Electric|Fairy|no|no|no|no|no|yes|STAB='''}}
{{moveentry/TM1|704|Goomy|1|Dragon|Dragon|no|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|705|Sliggoo|1|Dragon|Dragon|no|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|706|Goodra|1|Dragon|Dragon|no|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{moveentry/TM1|716|Xerneas|1|Fairy|Fairy|no|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Movefooter|Electric}}

===By [[Move Tutor]]===
{{Moveheader/tutor|Electric}}
{{Moveheader/tutor/2}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|020|Raticate|1|Normal|Normal|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|025|Pikachu|1|Electric|Electric|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|026|Raichu|1|Electric|Electric|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|029|Nidoran♀|1|Poison|Poison|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|030|Nidorina|1|Poison|Poison|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|031|Nidoqueen|2|Poison|Ground|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|032|Nidoran♂|1|Poison|Poison|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|033|Nidorino|1|Poison|Poison|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|034|Nidoking|2|Poison|Ground|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|035|Clefairy|1|Fairy|Fairy|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|036|Clefable|1|Fairy|Fairy|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|039|Jigglypuff|2|Normal|Fairy|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|040|Wigglytuff|2|Normal|Fairy|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|052|Meowth|1|Normal|Normal|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|053|Persian|1|Normal|Normal|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|056|Mankey|1|Fighting|Fighting|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|057|Primeape|1|Fighting|Fighting|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|081|Magnemite|2|Electric|Steel|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|082|Magneton|2|Electric|Steel|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|088|Grimer|1|Poison|Poison|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|089|Muk|1|Poison|Poison|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|092|Gastly|2|Ghost|Poison|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|093|Haunter|2|Ghost|Poison|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|094|Gengar|2|Ghost|Poison|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|100|Voltorb|1|Electric|Electric|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|101|Electrode|1|Electric|Electric|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|108|Lickitung|1|Normal|Normal|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|109|Koffing|1|Poison|Poison|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|110|Weezing|1|Poison|Poison|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|111|Rhyhorn|2|Ground|Rock|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|112|Rhydon|2|Ground|Rock|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|113|Chansey|1|Normal|Normal|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|115|Kangaskhan|1|Normal|Normal|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|120|Staryu|1|Water|Water|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|121|Starmie|2|Water|Psychic|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|122|Mr. Mime|2|Psychic|Fairy|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|125|Electabuzz|1|Electric|Electric|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|128|Tauros|1|Normal|Normal|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|130|Gyarados|2|Water|Flying|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|131|Lapras|2|Ice|Water|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|135|Jolteon|1|Electric|Electric|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|137|Porygon|1|Normal|Normal|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|143|Snorlax|1|Normal|Normal|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|145|Zapdos|2|Electric|Flying|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|147|Dratini|1|Dragon|Dragon|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|148|Dragonair|1|Dragon|Dragon|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|149|Dragonite|2|Dragon|Flying|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|150|Mewtwo|1|Psychic|Psychic|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|151|Mew|1|Psychic|Psychic|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|170|Chinchou|2|Water|Electric|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|171|Lanturn|2|Water|Electric|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|172|Pichu|1|Electric|Electric|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|179|Mareep|1|Electric|Electric|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|180|Flaaffy|1|Electric|Electric|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|181|Ampharos|1|Electric|Electric|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|190|Aipom|1|Normal|Normal|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|200|Misdreavus|1|Ghost|Ghost|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|203|Girafarig|2|Normal|Psychic|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|206|Dunsparce|1|Normal|Normal|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|209|Snubbull|1|Fairy|Fairy|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|210|Granbull|1|Fairy|Fairy|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|233|Porygon2|1|Normal|Normal|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|239|Elekid|1|Electric|Electric|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|241|Miltank|1|Normal|Normal|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|242|Blissey|1|Normal|Normal|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|243|Raikou|1|Electric|Electric|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|248|Tyranitar|2|Rock|Dark|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|249|Lugia|2|Psychic|Flying|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|250|Ho-Oh|2|Fire|Flying|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Movefooter/tutor|Electric}}

==In other games==
===[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]] series===
Thunderbolt hits any enemy on an adjacent tile.

===[[Pokémon Conquest]]===
Thunderbolt hits the space two blocks in front of the user, as well as the squares left and right of it. It shares this attack shape with [[Venoshock]].
Thunderbolt is used by both {{p|Pikachu}} and {{p|Jolteon}}. As with all Conquest Pokémon, this is their only move.

==In the anime==
===In the main series===
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{{movemid|type=electric|user=Pokémon League entrance exam instructor|user1=Pokémon League entrance exam Instructor's Pikachu|startcode=EP056|startname=The Ultimate Test}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Sparky|user1=Ritchie's Sparky|startcode=EP078|startname=A Friend In Deed}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Pikachutwo|user1=Mewtwo's Pikachutwo|startcode=Mewtwo Returns}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Volkner|user1=Volkner's Pikachu|startcode=DP165|startname=Flint Sparks the Fire!}}
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{{movemid|type=electric|user=Ayumi|user1=Ayumi's Pikachu|startcode=SS027}}
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{{movemid|type=electric|user=Lt. Surge's Raichu|startcode=EP014|startname=Electric Shock Showdown}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Katrina (Kanto)|user1=Katrina's Raichu|startcode=EP069|startname=Lights, Camera, Quack-tion}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Ellen|user1=Ellen's Raichu|startcode=EP139|startname=Mild 'n Wooly}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Raichu (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Raichu|startcode=The Legend of Thunder!}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Raichu (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Raichu|startcode=EP242|startname=As Clear as Crystal}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Abigail|user1=Abigail's Sugar|startcode=DP024|startname=Cooking Up a Sweet Story!}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Ash Ketchum|user1=A Raichu Ash used briefly|startcode=DP088|startname=Camping it up!}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Volkner|user1=Volkner's Raichu|startcode=DP165|startname=Flint Sparks the Fire!}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=125|pkmn=Electabuzz|method=Electabuzz releases powerful bolts of yellow lightning from its horns or its body, or Electabuzz puts its hands out and fires a blast of yellow lightning from its hands at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Kaz|user1=Kaz's Electabuzz|startcode=EP042|startname=Showdown at Dark City}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Electabuzz (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer's Electabuzz|startcode=EP086|startname=Pikachu Re-Volts}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Drake (Orange League)|user1=Drake's Electabuzz|startcode=EP112|startname=Enter the Dragonite}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Electric company|user1=Electric Company's Electabuzz|startcode=EP199|startname=Current Events}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Dr. Namba|user1=Dr. Namba's Electabuzz|startcode=EP222|startname=A Promise is a Promise}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Electabuzz (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Electabuzz|startcode=EP242|startname=As Clear as Crystal}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Macy|user1=Macy's Electabuzz|startcode=EP267|startname=Love, Pokémon Style}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Jump (anime)|user1=Jump's Electabuzz|startcode=AG126|startname=Saved by the Beldum}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Electabuzz (Pokémon)|user1=A Coordinator's Electabuzz|startcode=DP171|startname=Dawn of a Royal Day!}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=082|pkmn=Magneton|method=Magneton's magnets glow yellow or white and a powerful bolt of yellow electricity is released from them at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Magneton (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer's Magneton|startcode=M01|startname=Mewtwo Strikes Back}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Ethan (anime)|user1=Ethan's Magneton|startcode=EP101|startname=Get Along, Little Pokémon}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Vincent|user1=Jackson's Magneton|startcode=EP268|startname=Tie One On!}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Magneton (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Magneton|startcode=AG040|startname=Watt's with Wattson}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Magneton (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Magneton|startcode=AG058|startname=All Torkoal, No Play}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Magneton (Pokémon)|user1=A Coordinator's Magneton|startcode=AG160|startname=Harley Rides Again}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Zero|user1=Zero's Magneton|startcode=M11|startname=Giratina and the Sky Warrior}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=081|pkmn=Magnemite|method=Magnemite releases a powerful bolt of yellow or white electricity from its magnet tips or its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Magnemite (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Magnemite|startcode=EP086|startname=Pikachu Re-Volts}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Ethan (anime)|user1=Ethan's Magnemite|startcode=EP101|startname=Get Along, Little Pokémon}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Magnemite (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Magnemite|startcode=EP242|startname=As Clear as Crystal}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Anthony (AG010)|user1=Anthony's Magnemite|startcode=AG010|startname=You Said a Mouthful!}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Alyssa|user1=Alyssa's Magnemite|startcode=AG038|startname=A Different Kind of Misty}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Magnemite (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Magnemite|startcode=AG040|startname=Watt's with Wattson}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Magnemite (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Magnemite|startcode=AG058|startname=All Torkoal, No Play}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Zero|user1=Zero's Magnemite|startcode=M11|startname=Giratina and the Sky Warrior}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Professor Kodama|user1=Professor Kodama's Magnemite|startcode=DP149|startname=Sticking With Who You Know!}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Magnemite (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Magnemite|startcode=BW087|startname=Expedition to Onix Island!}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Magnemite (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Magnemite|startcode=BW089|startname=Iris and the Rogue Dragonite!}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=135|pkmn=Jolteon|method=Jolteon releases a powerful bolt of yellow electricity from its body at the opponent. Sometimes, yellow sparks appear around its body before it fires the attack.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Jolteon (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer's Jolteon|startcode=EP086|startname=Pikachu Re-Volts}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Jolteon (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Jolteon|startcode=EP242|startname=As Clear as Crystal}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Volkner|user1=Volkner's Jolteon|startcode=DP179|startname=The Eighth Wonder of the Sinnoh World!}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Virgil|user1=Virgil's Jolteon|startcode=BW102|startname=Team Eevee and the Pokémon Rescue Squad!}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=053|pkmn=Persian|method=Persian's eyes glow yellow. Then, it releases a powerful bolt of yellow electricity from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Persian (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer's Persian|startcode=EP099|startname=The Mandarin Island Miss Match}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=121|pkmn=Starmie|method=Starmie spins around and releases a powerful bolt of yellow lightning from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Rudy|user1=Rudy's Starmie|startcode=EP103|startname=Misty Meets Her Match}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=145|pkmn=Zapdos|method=Zapdos's body becomes surrounded in electricity, then it fires tons of little lightning bolts at the opponent that cause massive damage.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Legendary birds (M02)#Zapdos|user1=A wild Zapdos|startcode=M02|startname=The Power of One}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Zapdos (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Zapdos|startcode=EP242|startname=As Clear as Crystal}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Mirage Pokémon|user1=A mirage Zapdos merged with a mirage Mewtwo|startcode=The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=149|pkmn=Dragonite|method=Dragonite charges electricity in its antennae, then releases a beam of yellow electricity at the opponent from them.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Drake's Dragonite|startcode=EP112|startname=Enter the Dragonite}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=100|pkmn=Voltorb|method=Voltorb releases a powerful bolt of yellow electricity from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Voltorb (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Voltorb|startcode=EP242|startname=As Clear as Crystal}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Voltorb (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Voltorb|startcode=AG040|startname=Watt's with Wattson}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Voltorb (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer's Voltorb|startcode=AG079|startname=Pearls are a Spoink's Best Friend}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Christopher and Jeannie|user1=Christopher and Jeannie's Voltorb|startcode=AG150|startname=May's Egg-Cellent Adventure}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=181|pkmn=Ampharos|method=Ampharos releases a powerful bolt of yellow lightning from its ears or body at the opponent. Sometimes, yellow sparks appear around its ears before it uses the attack.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Ampharos (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Ampharos|startcode=EP242|startname=As Clear as Crystal}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Ampharos Train Crew|user1=Ampharos Train crew's Ampharos|startcode=DP130|startname=Frozen on Their Tracks!}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=239|pkmn=Elekid|method=Elekid spins its arms and releases a powerful bolt of yellow lightning from the horns on its head at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Casey (anime)|user1=Casey's Elekid|startcode=EP261|startname=Here's Lookin' at you, Elekid}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Elekid (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Elekid|startcode=AG154|startname=Reversing the Charges}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=263|pkmn=Zigzagoon|method=Zigzagoon's body becomes surrounded in yellow sparks and it releases a powerful bolt of yellow electricity at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Winstrate family|user1=Victor Winstrate's Zigzagoon|startcode=AG046|startname=Candid Camerupt!}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=301|pkmn=Delcatty|method=Delcatty crouches down and its body becomes surrounded in yellow sparks. It then releases a powerful bolt of lightning from its body into the air that strikes the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Dr. Abby|user1=Dr. Abby's Johnny|startcode=AG060|startname=Delcatty Got Your Tongue}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=312|pkmn=Minun|method=Minun releases a powerful bolt of yellow electricity from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Minun (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Minun|startcode=M07|startname=Destiny Deoxys}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=311|pkmn=Plusle|method=Plusle releases a powerful bolt of yellow electricity from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Plusle (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Plusle|startcode=M07|startname=Destiny Deoxys}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=264|pkmn=Linoone|method=Linoone's body sparks with electricity and it releases a powerful bolt of yellow lightning from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Kimmy Shoney|user1=Kimmy Shoney's Tokin|startcode=AG112|startname=Showdown At Linoone}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=101|pkmn=Electrode|method=Electrode releases a powerful bolt of yellow electricity from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Electrode (Pokémon)|user1=A Coordinator's Electrode|startcode=AG122|startname=Deceit and Assist}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=052|pkmn=Meowth|method=Yellow sparks surround Meowth's body and it fires a bolt of yellow lightning from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Tyson's Meowth|startcode=AG125|startname=Like a Meowth to a Flame}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=172|pkmn=Pichu|method=Pichu's cheeks become surrounded by yellow static and it releases multiple bolts of yellow electricity from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Pichu (Pokémon)|user1=Two wild Pichu|startcode=PK17|startname=Pikachu's Island Adventure}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Normajean|user1=A Pichu under Normajean's care|startcode=DP190|startname=The Brockster Is In!}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=466|pkmn=Electivire|method=Electivire releases two bolts of lightning from the two horns on its head at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Gary's Electivire|startcode=AG192|startname=Home Is Where the Start Is!}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=404|pkmn=Luxio|method=Luxio releases a yellow beam of electricity from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Luxio (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Luxio|startcode=M10|startname=The Rise of Darkrai}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=403|pkmn=Shinx|method=Shinx releases a yellow beam of electricity at the opponent from its body.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Shinx (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Shinx|startcode=M10|startname=The Rise of Darkrai}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=309|pkmn=Electrike|method=Electrike releases a beam of blue electricity from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Jaco|user1=Jaco's Electrike|startcode=DP042|startname=The Electrike Company!}}
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{{movemid|type=electric|user=Koffing (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer's Koffing|startcode=DP050|startname=Tag! We're It...!}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=171|pkmn=Lanturn|method=The front orb on Lanturn's antennae glow yellow and it fires a beam of electricity from the orb at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Kyle (Sinnoh)|user1=Kyle's Lanturn|startcode=DP078|startname=Pruning a Passel of Pals!}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=019|pkmn=Rattata|method=Rattata releases a bolt of yellow electricity from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Rattata (Pokémon)|user1=A Rattata an unknown Trainer used briefly|startcode=DP088|startname=Camping it Up!}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=405|pkmn=Luxray|method=Luxray releases a powerful bolt of yellow electricity from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Luxray (Pokémon)|user1=A Luxray an Unknown Trainer used briefly|startcode=DP091|startname=One Team, Two Team, Red Team, Blue Team!}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Volkner|user1=Volkner's Luxray|startcode=DP166|startname=The Fleeing Tower of Sunyshore!}}
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{{movemid|type=electric|user=Paul|user1=Paul's Nidoking|startcode=DP128|startname=A Pyramiding Rage!}}
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{{movemid|type=electric|user=Zoey's Glameow|startcode=DP177|startname=A Grand Fight for Winning!}}
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{{movemid|type=electric|user=Legendary beasts (M13)#Raikou|user1=Raikou (M13)|startcode=M13|startname=Zoroark: Master of Illusions}}
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{{movemid|type=electric|user=Grings Kodai|user1=Grings Kodai's Shuppet|startcode=M13|startname=Zoroark: Master of Illusions}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=463|pkmn=Lickilicky|method=Lickilicky's body becomes surrounded by yellow electricity and it releases a beam of yellow electricity from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Conway|user1=Conway's Lickilicky|startcode=DP185|startname=Working on a Right Move!}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=505|pkmn=Watchog|method=Watchog's cheeks release yellow sparks of electricity, which then move throughout its entire body. Its body then becomes surrounded in yellow electricity and it fires a beam of yellow electricity from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Lenora|user1=Lenora's Watchog|startcode=BW015|startname=The Battle According to Lenora!}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=531|pkmn=Audino|method=Audino's body becomes surrounded in yellow electricity and it fires a beam of electricity from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Nurse Joy's Audino|startcode=BW035|startname=Where Did You Go, Audino?}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=595|pkmn=Joltik|method=Joltik releases a powerful blast of yellow electricity from its body at the opponent or Joltik's body becomes surrounded in yellow electricity and it fires a beam of electricity from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Sylvester (Unova)|user1=Sylvester's Joltik|startcode=BW039|startname=Reunion Battles In Nimbasa!}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Joltik (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Joltik|startcode=BW062|startname=Crisis at Chargestone Cave!}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=604|pkmn=Eelektross|method=Eelektross's body becomes surrounded in yellow static. It then becomes surrounded in yellow electricity and fires a beam of yellow electricity from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Subway Boss Emmet|user1=Emmet's Eelektross|startcode=BW051|startname=Lost at the Stamp Rally!}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Kendrick|user1=Kendrick's Eelektross|startcode=BW103|startname=Curtain Up, Unova League!}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Russet|user1=Russet's Eelektross|startcode=BW106|startname=Strong Strategy Steals the Show!}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=572|pkmn=Minccino|method=Minccino's body becomes surrounded in yellow electricity and it fires multiple beams of yellow electricity from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Bianca's Minccino|startcode=BW062|startname=Crisis at Chargestone Cave!}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=596|pkmn=Galvantula|method=Galvantula's body becomes surrounded in yellow electricity and it fires a beam of electricity from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Galvantula (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Galvantula|startcode=BW062|startname=Crisis at Chargestone Cave!}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Nanette|user1=Two Galvantula Nanette imagined|startcode=BW109|startname=New Places... Familiar Faces!}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Galvantula (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Galvantula|startcode=BW112|startname=Team Plasma's Pokémon Power Plot!}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Galvantula (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Galvantula|startcode=BW119|startname= Meowth, Colress and Team Rivalry!}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Teaque|user1=Teaque's Galvantula|startcode=BW125|startname=Cilan and the Case of the Purrloin Witness!}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=561|pkmn=Sigilyph|method=Sigilyph creates a black portal outlined in white in front of itself. It then fires a beam of yellow electricity from it at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Sigilyph (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Sigilyph|startcode=BW064|startname=Explorers of the Hero's Ruin!|notes=Used via {{color2|{{electric color dark}}|Mirror Move (move)|Mirror Move}}}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=576|pkmn=Gothitelle|method=Gothitelle's body becomes surrounded in yellow electricity and it fires multiple beams of yellow electricity from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Caitlin|user1=Caitlin's Gothitelle|startcode=BW090|startname=Jostling for the Junior Cup!}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=598|pkmn=Ferrothorn|method=Ferrothorn'sbody sparks with electricity and it releases a powerful bolt of yellow lightning from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Cameron (Unova)|user1=Cameron's Ferrothorn|startcode=BW094|startname=The Road to Humilau!}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=523|pkmn=Zebstrika|method=Zebstrika's body sparks with electricity and it releases a powerful bolt of yellow lightning from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Stephan|user1=Stephan's Zebstrika|startcode=BW103|startname=Curtain Up, Unova League!}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=462|pkmn=Magnezone|method=Magnezone's body sparks with electricity and it releases a powerful bolt of yellow lightning from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Barret|user1=Barret's Magnezone|startcode=BW118|startname=Secrets From Out of the Fog!}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=644|pkmn=Zekrom|method=The spike on Zekrom's head glows yellow and sparks with yellow electricity. It then fires a stream of electricity towards the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Zekrom (Pokémon)|user1=A Zekrom in Ash's dream|startcode=BW123|startname=Farewell, Unova! Setting Sail for New Adventures!}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=479|pkmn=Rotom|method=Rotom's body sparks with electricity and it releases a powerful bolt of yellow lightning from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Professor Oak's Rotom|user1=Professor Oak's Rotom|startcode=BW128|startname=To Catch a Rotom!}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Rotom (Pokémon)|user1=Two wild Rotom|startcode=BW128|startname=To Catch a Rotom!}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=310|pkmn=Manectric|method=Manectric's body sparks with electricity and it releases a powerful bolt of yellow lightning from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Officer Jenny|user1=Officer Jenny's Manectric|startcode=XY008|startname=Grooming Furfrou!}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=695|pkmn=Heliolisk|method=Heliolisk's body sparks with electricity and it releases a powerful bolt of yellow lightning from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movebtm|type=electric|user=Clemont|user1=Clemont's Heliolisk|startcode=XY009|startname=Clemont's Got a Secret!}}

===In Pokémon Origins===
{{moveanime|exp=yes|type=electric|gen=The opponent is hit by a bolt of lightning from the user.|image1=Red Jolteon Thunderbolt PO.png|image1p=Jolteon|image2=Giovanni Rhyhorn Thunderbolt PO.png|image2p=Rhyhorn}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=135|pkmn=Jolteon|method=Jolteon releases multiple bolts of yellow electricity from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Red (Origins)|user1=Red's Jolteon|startcode=PO02|startname=File 2 - Cubone|notes=Debut}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=111|pkmn=Rhyhorn|method=Rhyhorn's horn crackles with yellow electricity. It then forms a ball of yellow electricity in front of its horn and fires it at the opponent.}}
{{movebtm|type=electric|user=Giovanni|user1=Giovanni's Rhyhorn|startcode=PO03|startname=File 3 - Giovanni}}

==In the manga==
===In the Ash and Pikachu manga===
{{movemanga|type=electric|exp=yes|gen=The user releases a bunch of electricity.|image1=Ash Pikachu Thunderbolt SP.png|image1p=Pikachu}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=025|pkmn=Pikachu|method=Pikachu releases a burst of electricity onto the opponent.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=electric|user=Ash's Pikachu|startcode=SP01|startname=Hoppip, the Wind Calls!|notes=Debut}}

===In the movie adaptations===
{{movemanga|type=electric|exp=yes|gen=The user zaps the foe with electricity.|image1=Ash Pikachu Thunderbolt M10 manga.png|image1p=Pikachu}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=025|pkmn=Pikachu|method=Pikachu zaps the opponent with electricity.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=electric|user=Ash's Pikachu|startcode=Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea (manga)|startname=Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea|notes=Debut}}

===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
{{Movemanga|type=electric|exp=yes|gen=A strong electric blast is loosed at the foe.|image1=Lt Surge Electabuzz Thunderbolt Adventures.png|image1p=Electabuzz|image2=Pika Thunderbolt.png|image2p=Pikachu|image3=Lt Surge Raichu Thunderbolt Adventures.png|image3p=Raichu}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=125|pkmn=Electabuzz|method=Electabuzz releases a powerful electric blast at the opponent from its body.}}
{{Movemid|type=electric|user=Lt. Surge|user1=Lt. Surge's Electabuzz|startcode=PS011|startname=Buzz Off, Electabuzz!|notes=Debut}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=025|pkmn=Pikachu|method=A bolt of lightning comes down from above Pikachu and strikes it. When the lightning hits Pikachu, it causes a large explosion of electricity around itself, or an orb of electricity appears in front of Pikachu's tail and it fires multiple lightning bolts from the orb at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Pika|user1=Red's Pika|startcode=PS028|startname=Piece of Mime}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=082|pkmn=Magneton|method=Magneton releases powerful bolts of electricity from its magnet tips at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Lt. Surge|user1=Lt. Surge's Magneton|startcode=PS121|startname=Off Course with Corsola}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=092|pkmn=Gastly|method=Gastly releases multiple lightning bolts from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Morty|user1=Morty's Gastly|startcode=PS125|startname=Misdreavus Misgivings}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=026|pkmn=Raichu|method=Raichu releases a blast of electricity from its body at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Lt. Surge's Raichu|startcode=PS139|startname=Raising Raichu}}
{{movemid|type=electric|user=Volkner|user1=Volkner's Raichu|startcode=PS405|startname=VS. Electivire}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=121|pkmn=Starmie|method=Starmie points one of its appendages at the opponent and releases a beam of electricity from the tip of it at the opponent.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=electric|user=Crystal (Adventures)|user1=Crys's Starmie|startcode=PS309|startname=VS. Milotic}}

===In the Pocket Monsters Diamond & Pearl manga===
{{movemanga|type=electric|exp=yes|gen=The user lets loose a bunch of electricity.|image1=Ash Pikachu Thunderbolt PDP.png|image1p=Pikachu}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=025|pkmn=Pikachu|method=Pikachu lets loose a burst of electricity onto the opponent.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=electric|user=Ash's Pikachu|startcode=PDP04|startname=Hurry Up! Dawn's Pinch!!|notes=Debut}}

===In the Pokémon Get da ze! manga===
{{movemanga|type=electric|exp=yes|gen=The user zaps the foe with a strong electrical attack.|image1=Shuu Pikachu Thunderbolt GDZ.png|image1p=Pikachu}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=025|pkmn=Pikachu|method=Pikachu charges and releases a strong electric attack.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=electric|user=Shū's Pikachu|startcode=GDZ01|startname=Enter Shū & Pikachu!|notes=Debut}}

===In the Pokémon Pocket Monsters manga===
{{movemanga|type=electric|exp=yes|gen=The user zaps the foe with a strong electrical attack.|image1=Red Pikachu Thunderbolt PM.png|image1p=Pikachu}}
{{movep|type=electric|ms=025|pkmn=Pikachu|method=Pikachu releases a strong electric attack from its cheeks.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=electric|user=Red's Pikachu (Pocket Monsters)|user1=Red's Pikachu|startcode=PM044|startname=The Fake Pikachu!!|notes=Debut}}

==In other generations==
{| class="expandable" style="margin:auto"
|'''Warning''': The original animation from Pokémon Red, Green, and Blue contains several short flashes capable of causing epileptic seizures.
|-
|
{{Movegen|
type=electric|
genI=Thunderbolt Japanese I|
}}
{{Movegen|
type=electric|
RBY=Thunderbolt I|
genII=Thunderbolt II|
genIII=Thunderbolt III|
genIV=Thunderbolt IV|
}}
{{Movegen|
type=electric|
Stad2=Thunderbolt Stad2|
Stad=Thunderbolt Stadium|
Battrio=Thunderbolt Battrio|
}}
|}

==Trivia==
* In some copies of {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}, using Thunderbolt or {{m|Thunder}} may {{DL|List of glitches in Generation III|Thunder glitch|cause}} the game to [[game freeze|freeze]] during the moves' animation sequences. This can be remedied by turning off the [[battle animation]]s in the options menu.
** In {{game2|FireRed|LeafGreen|Emerald}}, the sound of Thunderbolt or Thunder may get stuck until the game resets.
* In the console games, Thunderbolt is shown going straight forward to the foes' Pokémon, while in the handheld games it is shown going straight down.
* Because of [[Ash's Pikachu]] using this move since some of the earliest episodes of the anime, it is one of the most featured moves throughout the entire series.
* Thunderbolt's Japanese name ({{tt|１０まんボルト|100,000 Volts}}) corresponds with Raichu's Pokédex entries which state that its Electric attacks can reach up to 100,000 volts of electricity.
* In {{game|Red and Green|s}}, the [[battle animation]] for Thunderbolt contains several more, shorter flashes compared to the animation in the international {{game|Red and Blue|s}}. The move animation was likely toned down to prevent {{wp|epileptic seizure}}s.

==In other languages==
{{langtable
|color={{electric color}}|bordercolor={{electric color light}}
|zh_cmn=十萬伏特 ''{{tt|Shíwàn Fútè|100,000 Volts}}''
|nl=Bliksemstraal
|fi=Ukkosisku{{tt|*|Also used for Thunder Shock}} Salamaisku (original series) {{tt|Salamapallo|Literal translation would be ''Lightning ball''; ''bolt'' possibly mistaken for ''ball'' during the translation.}} ([[M05]][[M06|-]][[M07]])
|fr=Tonnerre
|de=Donnerblitz
|el=Αστροπελέκι
|he=מכת ברק ''{{tt|Macat barack|Lightning bolt}}''
|id={{tt|Seratus Ribu|100.000}} Volt
|it=Fulmine Superfulmine (anime, season 1-10)
|ko=백만볼트 ''{{tt|Baekman|1,000,000}}-bolt''
|no=Tordenkile
|pl=Atak Piorunem (original series) Piorun (DP onward)
|pt_br=Choque do Trovão
|pt_eu=Relâmpago
|sr=Munja
|es_la={{tt|Atactrueno|Usually confused for ''Impactrueno'' (Thunder Shock) prior to Season 13}} Rayo (''[[DP105|Get your Rotom Running!]]'')
|es_eu=Rayo
|ro=Trăznet}}

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