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Talk:Vivillon (Pokémon)

2013-10-31T11:45:55Z

Sekuiya: /* Vivillion's Forms */ Grammar mistake.

I'm guessing the French name is a combination of "prism" and "papillon" (butterfly) [[User:Vienna Waltz|Vienna Waltz]] ([[User talk:Vienna Waltz|talk]]) 20:24, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

== Possible Origin-disco ball? ==

This may be pushing it a bit, but could Vivillon be based off a disco ball? Due to the square designs all over it and that its body is a silver-white color with colorful wings to represent how a disco ball reflects colors? [[User:CyberCat5555|CyberCat5555]] ([[User talk:CyberCat5555|talk]]) 22:13, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
:: Looks a little like a disco floor, or a glitch screen. Maybe even one of those colored ARTag square. I've seen a few AR tags us pinks and grey in combination.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 00:05, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

== Worth putting to it's and its pre evos's Origin? ==

I found a very possible design theory of its line. It has something to do with those "pixel-like" shapes on them.
http://tinyurl.com/lkhy2r8 --[[User:Antlionerd|Antlionerd]] ([[User talk:Antlionerd|talk]]) 14:10, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

== Korean name for Vivillon ==

Its Korean name is 비비용 ''Bibiyong''.
* It's essentially a transliteration of its Japanese name.
: NOTE: I don't think the 용 ''yong'' in its name means ''dragon'', it's just a way some words/syllables ending in "n" are transliterated in Korean. For comparison, "France" is 프랑스 ''Peu'rang'seu''. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 18:23, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
* UPDATE: It's ''based'' on the Japanese and English names, since they all basically use the same etymology:
:* 비비 ''bibi'' comes from the Korean transliteration of the word "vivid" (비비드 ''bibideu'')
::: (as 美 in Korean is 미 ''mi'', not ''bi'' like in Japanese)
:* 용 ''yong'' comes from the Korean transliteration of "papillon" (파피용 ''papiyong''). -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 19:40, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

== Vivillon Forms ==

According to the article there are 18 different forms. Currently I was able to pull out of the PGL 8 versions. Unfortunately, there are rather small. Should we use these as a placeholders, for example, till we get HQ versions? Here's an example of one of the forms: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17498236/e175c2.png 
In another subject, do we have an official source for the name of the forms? I have seen them around the internet, but I cannot find an official source with their names. --[[User:Sekuiya|Sekuiya]][[User talk:Sekuiya|talk]] 16:03, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
:Addressing the second part, the names of the patterns are found in Vivillon's dex entry for each different pattern found (for example, mine lists Meadow, Continental, Polar, and Modern Pattern). That's as official as it gets. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 16:12, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
::Oh, you're right! Guess I should have explored the Dex a little more. Now, regarding those little images... --[[User:Sekuiya|Sekuiya]][[User talk:Sekuiya|talk]] 16:21, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

== Vivillion's Forms ==

Shouldn't there be a section about which area gets which Vivillion form? Or should that be on the variant Pokémon article? [[User:KyuremTrainer|KyuremTrainer]] ([[User talk:KyuremTrainer|talk]]) 20:53, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
:Well, we can try to find a way. But currently, there's just too many to list, dunno how we're gonna fit it on the article without making it huge. --[[User:Sekuiya|Sekuiya]][[User talk:Sekuiya|talk]] 11:45, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Vivillon (Pokémon)

2013-10-31T11:45:30Z

Sekuiya: /* Vivillion's Forms */

I'm guessing the French name is a combination of "prism" and "papillon" (butterfly) [[User:Vienna Waltz|Vienna Waltz]] ([[User talk:Vienna Waltz|talk]]) 20:24, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

== Possible Origin-disco ball? ==

This may be pushing it a bit, but could Vivillon be based off a disco ball? Due to the square designs all over it and that its body is a silver-white color with colorful wings to represent how a disco ball reflects colors? [[User:CyberCat5555|CyberCat5555]] ([[User talk:CyberCat5555|talk]]) 22:13, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
:: Looks a little like a disco floor, or a glitch screen. Maybe even one of those colored ARTag square. I've seen a few AR tags us pinks and grey in combination.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 00:05, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

== Worth putting to it's and its pre evos's Origin? ==

I found a very possible design theory of its line. It has something to do with those "pixel-like" shapes on them.
http://tinyurl.com/lkhy2r8 --[[User:Antlionerd|Antlionerd]] ([[User talk:Antlionerd|talk]]) 14:10, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

== Korean name for Vivillon ==

Its Korean name is 비비용 ''Bibiyong''.
* It's essentially a transliteration of its Japanese name.
: NOTE: I don't think the 용 ''yong'' in its name means ''dragon'', it's just a way some words/syllables ending in "n" are transliterated in Korean. For comparison, "France" is 프랑스 ''Peu'rang'seu''. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 18:23, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
* UPDATE: It's ''based'' on the Japanese and English names, since they all basically use the same etymology:
:* 비비 ''bibi'' comes from the Korean transliteration of the word "vivid" (비비드 ''bibideu'')
::: (as 美 in Korean is 미 ''mi'', not ''bi'' like in Japanese)
:* 용 ''yong'' comes from the Korean transliteration of "papillon" (파피용 ''papiyong''). -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 19:40, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

== Vivillon Forms ==

According to the article there are 18 different forms. Currently I was able to pull out of the PGL 8 versions. Unfortunately, there are rather small. Should we use these as a placeholders, for example, till we get HQ versions? Here's an example of one of the forms: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17498236/e175c2.png 
In another subject, do we have an official source for the name of the forms? I have seen them around the internet, but I cannot find an official source with their names. --[[User:Sekuiya|Sekuiya]][[User talk:Sekuiya|talk]] 16:03, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
:Addressing the second part, the names of the patterns are found in Vivillon's dex entry for each different pattern found (for example, mine lists Meadow, Continental, Polar, and Modern Pattern). That's as official as it gets. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 16:12, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
::Oh, you're right! Guess I should have explored the Dex a little more. Now, regarding those little images... --[[User:Sekuiya|Sekuiya]][[User talk:Sekuiya|talk]] 16:21, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

== Vivillion's Forms ==

Shouldn't there be a section about which area gets which Vivillion form? Or should that be on the variant Pokémon article? [[User:KyuremTrainer|KyuremTrainer]] ([[User talk:KyuremTrainer|talk]]) 20:53, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
:Well, we can't try to find a way. But currently, there's just too many to list, dunno how we're gonna fit it on the article without making it huge. --[[User:Sekuiya|Sekuiya]][[User talk:Sekuiya|talk]] 11:45, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

List of clothing in Pokémon X and Y

2013-10-28T01:23:35Z

Sekuiya: /* List of Male clothes */ Added Monday wares.

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{{search|outfits and accessories in-game that the [[player character]] can wear|clothing in the real world featuring Pokémon characters|Pokémon clothing}}
'''Clothing''' is a type of item introduced in [[Generation VI]] with [[Pokémon X and Y]]. Outfits and accessories can be purchased throughout many boutiques and the salon in [[Kalos]]. Players are able to customize their hats, shoes, clothing, accessories, and hairstyle, and can change their outfit within the boutiques and each [[Pokémon Center]]. The selection of items varies between boutiques and the selection also varies in each boutique daily. When a player changes his or her outfit and hair, the player icon on the PSS and on the Pokémon Global Link will also change.

At certain times during the game, changing clothes is necessary in order to proceed: one must be wearing a combination of clothing that is deemed fashionable.

==Locations==
Most boutiques sell only male or female clothes depending on the player's gender. The only boutique selling clothes for both genders is the Lumiose City Boutique, where male clothes are located upstairs and female clothes downstairs.

The boutique in Lumiose City is known as ''Boutique Couture''.

{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{orange color}}; border: 3px solid #{{orange color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Available clothing
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| [[Santalune City]] Boutique
| Hats, Accessories
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| [[Cyllage City]] Boutique
| Hats, Shirts, Pants, Socks, Shoes, Bags
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| [[Laverre City]] Boutique
| Hats, Shirts, Pants, Shoes, Bags, Accessories
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| [[Anistar City]] Boutique
| Hats, Shirts, Pants, Socks, Bags, Accessories
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| [[Snowbelle City]] Boutique
| Hats, Shirts, Pants, Bags, Accessories
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| [[Lumiose City]] Boutique
| Hats, Shirts, Pants, Bags, Accessories
|}

==List of Male clothes==
===Hats===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{x color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{x color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Hat
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Bamboo Sprig Hat
| Given in Kiloude City
| N/A
| White
| {{PDollar}}0
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Camo Cap
| Santalune City Boutique Snowbelle City Boutique
| Friday, Saturday, Monday Friday, Monday
| Olive
| {{PDollar}}800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Camo Cap
| Santalune City Boutique Snowbelle City Boutique
| Sunday Saturday
| Aqua
| {{PDollar}}800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Checkered Fedora
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Sunday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}7,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Fedora
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Sunday, Monday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}80,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Fedora
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Friday
| Gray
| {{PDollar}}80,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Fedora
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Saturday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}80,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Knit Cap
| Anistar City Boutique
| Friday, Saturday, Monday
| White
| {{PDollar}}6,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Knit Cap
| Santalune City Boutique
| Saturday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}3,100
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Knit Cap
| Santalune City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday, Monday
| Orange
| {{PDollar}}800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Knit Cap
| Anistar City Boutique
| Sunday
| Purple
| {{PDollar}}6,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Logo Cap
| Santalune City Boutique Cyllage City Boutique
| Friday to Monday Saturday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Logo Cap
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Friday
| Blue
| {{PDollar}}1,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Logo Cap
| Santalune City Boutique Cyllage City Boutique
| Friday to Monday Monday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Logo Cap
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Sunday
| Green
| {{PDollar}}1,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Outdoors Cap
| Default
| N/A
| Red
| {{PDollar}}0
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Outdoors Cap
| Santalune City Boutique Laverre City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday, Monday Saturday, Monday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}3,100
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Outdoors Cap
| Laverre City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday
| Olive
| {{PDollar}}6,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Outdoors Cap
| Santalune City Boutique
| Saturday
| Beige
| {{PDollar}}3,100
|}

===Shirts===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{x color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{x color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Shirt
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Down Jacket
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Friday to Monday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}120,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Down Jacket
| Anistar City Boutique
| Friday to Monday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}15,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Down Jacket
| Anistar City Boutique
| Friday to Monday
| Aqua
| {{PDollar}}15,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Hoodie
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Monday
| Olive
| {{PDollar}}4,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Hoodie
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Friday
| Aqua
| {{PDollar}}4,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Hoodie
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Saturday, Sunday
| Yellow
| {{PDollar}}4,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| King T-Shirt
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Friday, Monday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}12,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Logo T-Shirt
| N/A
| N/A
| White
| {{PDollar}}N/A
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Logo T-Shirt
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Friday, Monday
| Orange
| {{PDollar}}2,100
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Logo T-Shirt
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Saturday
| Green
| {{PDollar}}2,100
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Logo T-Shirt
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Sunday
| Blue
| {{PDollar}}2,100
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Logo T-Shirt
| N/A
| N/A
| Yellow
| {{PDollar}}N/A
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Plaid Shirt Combo
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday, Monday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}120,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Plaid Shirt Combo
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Saturday
| Gray
| {{PDollar}}120,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Splatter Paint T-Shirt
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Friday to Monday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}4,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Splatter Paint T-Shirt
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Friday, Saturday, Monday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}4,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Splatter Paint T-Shirt
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Sunday
| Purple
| {{PDollar}}4,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Striped Shirt Combo
| Laverre City Boutique
| Monday
| Purple
| {{PDollar}}6,400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Striped Shirt Combo
| N/A
| N/A
| Red
| {{PDollar}}N/A
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Striped Shirt Combo
| Laverre City Boutique
| Friday, Saturday
| Aqua
| {{PDollar}}6,400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Striped Shirt Combo
| Laverre City Boutique
| Sunday
| Pale Pink
| {{PDollar}}6,400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Twin T-Shirt
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Saturday, Sunday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}12,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| V-Neck T-Shirt
| Laverre City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday, Monday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}5,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| V-Neck T-Shirt
| N/A
| N/A
| White
| {{PDollar}}N/A
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| V-Neck T-Shirt
| Laverre City Boutique
| Saturday, Sunday, Monday
| Pink
| {{PDollar}}5,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| V-Neck T-Shirt
| Laverre City Boutique
| Friday, Saturday
| Aqua
| {{PDollar}}5,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Zipped Jacket
| Default
| N/A
| Blue
| {{PDollar}}0
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Zipped Jacket
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Friday, Monday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}2,900
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Zipped Jacket
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Saturday, Sunday
| Green
| {{PDollar}}2,900
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Zipped Jacket
| Anistar City Boutique
| Monday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}8,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Zipped Jacket
| Anistar City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday
| Navy blue
| {{PDollar}}8,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Zipped Jacket
| Anistar City Boutique
| Saturday
| Orange
| {{PDollar}}8,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Zipped Shirt Combo
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Friday, Saturday, Monday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}100,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Zipped Shirt Combo
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Sunday
| White
| {{PDollar}}100,000
|}

===Pants===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{x color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{x color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Pants
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Camo Pants
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Saturday, Sunday
| Green
| {{PDollar}}6,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Camo Pants
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Friday
| Gray
| {{PDollar}}6,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Checked Pants
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Friday to Monday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}180,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Checked Pants
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Friday, Saturday, Monday
| Gray
| {{PDollar}}180,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Chinos
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Friday to Monday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}8,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Chinos
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Friday to Monday
| Beige
| {{PDollar}}8,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Cuffed Jeans
| Anistar City Boutique
| Saturday, Monday
| Blue
| {{PDollar}}10,500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Damaged Jeans
| Anistar City Boutique
| Friday to Monday
| Aqua
| {{PDollar}}10,500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Short Cargo Pants
| Anistar City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}10,500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Short Cargo Pants
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday, Monday
| Olive
| {{PDollar}}2,900
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Short Cargo Pants
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Saturday, Sunday
| Purple
| {{PDollar}}2,900
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Skinny Jeans
| Default
| N/A
| Blue
| {{PDollar}}0
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Skinny Jeans
| N/A
| N/A
| Brown
| {{PDollar}}N/A
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Skinny Jeans
| Laverre City Boutique
| Friday to Monday
| Beige
| {{PDollar}}10,500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Skinny Jeans
| Laverre City Boutique
| Friday to Monday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}10,500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Vinyl Pants
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday, Monday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}180,000
|}

===Socks===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{x color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{x color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Socks
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Ankle Socks
| Default
| N/A
| Black
| {{PDollar}}0
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Ankle Socks
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Saturday, Sunday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}900
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Ankle Socks
| Anistar City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday
| Green
| {{PDollar}}900
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Ankle Socks
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday, Monday
| Purple
| {{PDollar}}900
|}

===Shoes===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{x color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{x color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Shoes
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Loafers
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Friday to Monday
| Brown
| {{PDollar}}80,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Loafers
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Friday to Monday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}80,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Short Boots
| Default
| N/A
| Black
| {{PDollar}}0
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Short Boots
| Laverre City Boutique
| Friday to Monday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}10,500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Short Boots
| Laverre City Boutique
| Friday to Monday
| Brown
| {{PDollar}}10,500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Sneakers
| Anistar City Boutique
| Friday to Monday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}10,500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Sneakers
| Anistar City Boutique
| Friday to Monday
| White
| {{PDollar}}10,500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Sneakers
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Friday to Monday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}3,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Sneakers
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Friday to Monday
| Blue
| {{PDollar}}6,400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Sneakers
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday, Monday
| Yellow
| {{PDollar}}6,400
|}

===Bags===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{x color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{x color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Bag
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Two-Tone Bag
| Default
| N/A
| Black
| {{PDollar}}0
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Two-Tone Bag
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Friday to Monday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}2,900
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Two-Tone Bag
| Laverre City Boutique
| Friday to Monday
| Olive
| {{PDollar}}9,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Two-Tone Bag
| Anistar City Boutique
| Friday to Monday
| Aqua
| {{PDollar}}9,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Two-Tone Bag
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Friday to Monday
| Orange
| {{PDollar}}9,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Vinyl Messenger Bag
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Sunday, Monday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}100,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Vinyl Messenger Bag
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Friday, Saturday
| Brown
| {{PDollar}}100,000
|}

===Accessories===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{x color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{x color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Accessory
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Button Accessory
| Santalune City Boutique Cyllage City Boutique
| Friday to Monday Friday, Monday
| Gray
| {{PDollar}}500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Button Accessory
| Santalune City Boutique Cyllage City Boutique
| Friday to Monday Saturday, Sunday
| Pink
| {{PDollar}}500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Button Accessory
| Santalune City Boutique Anistar City Boutique
| Friday to Monday Friday to Monday
| Purple
| {{PDollar}}500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Button Accessory
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Sunday
| Yellow
| {{PDollar}}2,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Button Accessory
| Santalune City Boutique Snowbelle City Boutique
| Friday, Saturday, Monday Friday, Monday
| Lime Green
| {{PDollar}}500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Feather Accessory
| Laverre City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}2,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Feather Accessory
| Santalune City Boutique Laverre City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday, Monday Saturday, Monday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}1,400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Feather Accessory
| Santalune City Boutique
| Saturday
| Green
| {{PDollar}}1,400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Wide-Frame Sunglasses
| Default
| N/A
| Black
| {{PDollar}}0
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Wide-Frame Sunglasses
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Saturday
| Yellow
| {{PDollar}}40,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Wide-Frame Sunglasses
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Friday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}40,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Wide-Frame Sunglasses
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Sunday, Monday
| White
| {{PDollar}}40,000
|}

==List of Female clothes==
===Hats===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{y color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{y color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Hat
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Cycling Cap
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Saturday
| Blue
| {{PDollar}}6,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Cycling Cap
| Santalune City Boutique
| Friday, Saturday
| Beige
| {{PDollar}}3,100
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Cycling Cap
| Santalune City Boutique
| Sunday
| White
| {{PDollar}}800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Exotic Cap
| Laverre City Boutique
| N/A
| Purple
| {{PDollar}}4,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Fedora
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Saturday
| Brown
| {{PDollar}}100,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Fedora
| Santalune City Boutique Cyllage City Boutique
| Saturday Saturday
| Yellow
| {{PDollar}}2,100
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Fedora
| Santalune City Boutique Laverre City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday Saturday
| Green
| {{PDollar}}2,600
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Felt Hat
| Santalune City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday
| Navy Blue
| {{PDollar}}800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Felt Hat
| Santalune City Boutique
| Saturday
| Brown
| {{PDollar}}2,400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Felt Hat
| Default
| N/A
| Pink
| {{PDollar}}0
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Felt Hat
| Santalune City Boutique Anistar City Boutique
| Friday Saturday
| Pale Pink
| {{PDollar}}800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Felt Hat
| Santalune City Boutique
| Saturday, Sunday
| Aqua
| {{PDollar}}800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Felt Hat
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Sunday
| White
| {{PDollar}}40,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Logo Cap
| Santalune City Boutique
| Friday
| Pink
| {{PDollar}}1,600
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Logo Cap
| Santalune City Boutique
| Saturday, Sunday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}1,600
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Sports Cap
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Sunday
| Aqua
| {{PDollar}}1,700
|}

===Shirts===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{y color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{y color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Shirt
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Exotic Shirt
|Laverre City Boutique
|N/A
|Orange
|{{PDollar}}2,100
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Glitzy Scarf Top
|Anistar City Boutique
|Sunday
|Pink
|{{PDollar}}2,900
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Poké Ball Baby Doll Tee
|Cyllage City Boutique
|Saturday, Sunday
|Yellow
|{{PDollar}}2,100
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Poké Ball Baby Doll Tee
|Default
|N/A
|Green
|{{PDollar}}0
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Ribbon Smock Top
|Laverre City Boutique
|N/A
|Purple
|{{PDollar}}N/A
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Ruffled Camisole
|Anistar City Boutique
|Sunday
|Yellow
|{{PDollar}}2,900
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Ruffled Camisole
|Anistar City Boutique
|N/A
|Aqua
|{{PDollar}}2,900
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Shirt and Tie
|Lumiose City Boutique
|N/A
|Blue
|{{PDollar}}120,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Short Parka
|Cyllage City Boutique
|Saturday
|Blue
|{{PDollar}}2,400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Short Parka
|Cyllage City Boutique
|Sunday
|Pink
|{{PDollar}}2,400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Striped Tank Top
|Cyllage City Boutique
|Saturday
|Black
|{{PDollar}}1,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Striped Tank Top
|Cyllage City Boutique
|Sunday
|Blue
|{{PDollar}}1,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Tie-Neck Blouse
|Lumiose City Boutique
|N/A
|Grey
|{{PDollar}}100,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Tie-Neck Blouse
|Lumiose City Boutique
|N/A
|Red
|{{PDollar}}100,000
|}

===Pants===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{y color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{y color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Pants
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Accented Jeans
|Cyllage City Boutique
|Saturday
|Yellow
|{{PDollar}}2,900
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Accented Jeans
|Cyllage City Boutique
|Sunday
|Lime Green
|{{PDollar}}2,900
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Bold Striped Pants
|Lumiose City Boutique
|Sunday
|Blue
|{{PDollar}}180,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Bold Striped Pants
|Lumiose City Boutique
|N/A
|Blue
|{{PDollar}}180,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Jean Shorts
|Cyllage City Boutique
|Saturday
|Pink
|{{PDollar}}2,400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Jean Shorts
|Cyllage City Boutique
|Sunday
|Orange
|{{PDollar}}2,400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Jean Shorts
|Anistar City Boutique
|Sunday
|Grey
|{{PDollar}}3,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Pleated Kilt Skirt
|Lumiose City Boutique
|Sunday
|Red
|{{PDollar}}120,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Pleated Skirt
|Lumiose City Boutique
|N/A
|Red
|{{PDollar}}80,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Scalloped Tiered Skirt
|Anistar City Boutique
|Sunday
|Pink
|{{PDollar}}3,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Skinny Jeans
|Cyllage City Boutique
|Saturday
|Blue
|{{PDollar}}5,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Skinny Jeans
|Default
|N/A
|Aqua
|{{PDollar}}0
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Tiered Satin Skirt
|Laverre City Boutique
|Sunday
|Purple
|{{PDollar}}6,200
|}

===Dresses===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{y color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{y color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Dress
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Frilly Dress
|Anistar City Boutique
|Sunday
|Pale Pink
|{{PDollar}}4,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|High-Waisted Outfit
|Default
|N/A
|Black
|{{PDollar}}0
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Single-Front Coat Dress
|Laverre City Boutique
|N/A
|Pink
|{{PDollar}}8,400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Trenchcoat
|Lumiose City Boutique
|N/A
|Black
|{{PDollar}}300,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Trenchcoat
|Lumiose City Boutique
|N/A
|Beige
|{{PDollar}}300,000
|}

===Socks===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{y color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{y color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Socks
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Knee Socks
|Cyllage City Boutique
|Saturday
|Red
|{{PDollar}}800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Knee Socks
|Cyllage City Boutique
|Sunday
|Green
|{{PDollar}}800
|}

===Shoes===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{y color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{y color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Shoes
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Bow Shoes
|Lumiose City Boutique
|N/A
|Black
|{{PDollar}}85,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Bow Shoes
|Lumiose City Boutique
|N/A
|Brown
|{{PDollar}}85,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|High Tops
|Default
|N/A
|Black
|{{PDollar}}0
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|High Tops
|Cyllage City Boutique
|Saturday
|Yellow
|{{PDollar}}4,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|High Tops
|Cyllage City Boutique
|Saturday, Sunday
|Pink
|{{PDollar}}4,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|High Tops
|Cyllage City Boutique
|Sunday
|Purple
|{{PDollar}}4,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Laced Boots
|Laverre City Boutique
|N/A
|Black
|{{PDollar}}8,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Laced Boots
|Laverre City Boutique
|N/A
|Brown
|{{PDollar}}8,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Mary Janes
|Laverre City Boutique
|N/A
|Purple
|{{PDollar}}7,400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Mary Janes
|Laverre City Boutique
|N/A
|White
|{{PDollar}}7,400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Mary Janes
|Anistar City Boutique
|N/A
|Pale Pink
|{{PDollar}}3,900
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Riding Boots
|Anistar City Boutique
|N/A
|White
|{{PDollar}}4,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Riding Boots
|Anistar City Boutique
|N/A
|Pink
|{{PDollar}}4,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Riding Boots
|Anistar City Boutique
|N/A
|Pink
|{{PDollar}}4,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Riding Boots
|Snowbelle City Boutique
|N/A
|Brown
|{{PDollar}}10,500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Riding Boots
|Snowbelle City Boutique
|N/A
|Black
|{{PDollar}}10,500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Saddle Shoes
|Lumiose City Boutique
|N/A
|White
|{{PDollar}}110,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Zipped Boots
|Snowbelle City Boutique
|N/A
|Black
|{{PDollar}}10,500
|}

===Bags===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{y color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{y color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Bag
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Enamel-Striped Purse
|Cyllage City Boutique
|Saturday
|Blue
|{{PDollar}}2,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Ribbon Purse
|Anistar City Boutique
|N/A
|Aqua
|{{PDollar}}4,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Strappy Purse
|Lumiose City Boutique
|N/A
|Brown
|{{PDollar}}200,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Tassel Purse
|Laverre City Boutique
|N/A
|Purple
|{{PDollar}}8,600
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Tote Bag
|Default
|N/A
|Pink
|{{PDollar}}0
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Tote Bag
|Cyllage City Boutique
|Sunday
|Yellow
|{{PDollar}}8,600
|}

===Accessories===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{y color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{y color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Accessory
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Artificial Flower Pin
| Santalune City Boutique
| Saturday, Sunday
| Yellow
| {{PDollar}}500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Artificial Flower Pin
| Santalune City Boutique
| Sunday
| Pink
| {{PDollar}}500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Button Accessory
| Santalune City Boutique
| Saturday
| Gray
| {{PDollar}}500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Button Accessory
| Santalune City Boutique
| Saturday, Sunday
| Pink
| {{PDollar}}500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Button Accessory
| Santalune City Boutique
| Saturday, Sunday
| Purple
| {{PDollar}}500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Button Accessory
| Santalune City Boutique
| Sunday
| Yellow
| {{PDollar}}500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Feather Accessory
| Laverre City Boutique
| Sunday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}2,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Hat Ribbon Accesory
| Lumiose City Boutique
| N/A
| Pink
| {{PDollar}}20,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Hat Ribbon Accesory
| Lumiose City Boutique
| N/A
| Black
| {{PDollar}}20,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Wide-Frame Sunglasses
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Saturday
| Blue
| {{PDollar}}1,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Wide-Frame Sunglasses
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Sunday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}1,200
|}
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'''Clothing''' is a type of item introduced in [[Generation VI]] with [[Pokémon X and Y]]. Outfits and accessories can be purchased throughout many boutiques and the salon in [[Kalos]]. Players are able to customize their hats, shoes, clothing, accessories, and hairstyle, and can change their outfit within the boutiques and each [[Pokémon Center]]. The selection of items varies between boutiques and the selection also varies in each boutique daily. When a player changes his or her outfit and hair, the player icon on the PSS and on the Pokémon Global Link will also change.

At certain times during the game, changing clothes is necessary in order to proceed: one must be wearing a combination of clothing that is deemed fashionable.

==Locations==
Most boutiques sell only male or female clothes depending on the player's gender. The only boutique selling clothes for both genders is the Lumiose City Boutique, where male clothes are located upstairs and female clothes downstairs.

The boutique in Lumiose City is known as ''Boutique Couture''.

{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{orange color}}; border: 3px solid #{{orange color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Available clothing
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| [[Santalune City]] Boutique
| Hats, Accessories
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| [[Cyllage City]] Boutique
| Hats, Shirts, Pants, Socks, Shoes, Bags
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| [[Laverre City]] Boutique
| Hats, Shirts, Pants, Shoes, Bags, Accessories
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| [[Anistar City]] Boutique
| Hats, Shirts, Pants, Socks, Bags, Accessories
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| [[Snowbelle City]] Boutique
| Hats, Shirts, Pants, Bags, Accessories
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| [[Lumiose City]] Boutique
| Hats, Shirts, Pants, Bags, Accessories
|}

==List of Male clothes==
===Hats===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{x color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{x color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Hat
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Bamboo Sprig Hat
| Given in Kiloude City
| N/A
| White
| {{PDollar}}0
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Camo Cap
| Santalune City Boutique Snowbelle City Boutique
| Friday, Saturday Friday
| Olive
| {{PDollar}}800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Camo Cap
| Santalune City Boutique Snowbelle City Boutique
| Sunday Saturday
| Aqua
| {{PDollar}}800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Checkered Fedora
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Sunday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}7,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Fedora
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Sunday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}80,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Fedora
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Friday
| Gray
| {{PDollar}}80,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Fedora
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Saturday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}80,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Knit Cap
| Anistar City Boutique
| Friday, Saturday
| White
| {{PDollar}}6,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Knit Cap
| Santalune City Boutique
| Saturday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}3,100
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Knit Cap
| Santalune City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday
| Orange
| {{PDollar}}800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Knit Cap
| Anistar City Boutique
| Sunday
| Purple
| {{PDollar}}N/A
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Logo Cap
| Santalune City Boutique Cyllage City Boutique
| Friday to Sunday Saturday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Logo Cap
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Friday
| Blue
| {{PDollar}}1,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Logo Cap
| Santalune City Boutique
| Friday to Sunday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Logo Cap
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Sunday
| Green
| {{PDollar}}1,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Outdoors Cap
| Default
| N/A
| Red
| {{PDollar}}0
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Outdoors Cap
| Santalune City Boutique Laverre City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday Saturday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}3,100
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Outdoors Cap
| Laverre City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday
| Olive
| {{PDollar}}6,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Outdoors Cap
| Santalune City Boutique
| Saturday
| Beige
| {{PDollar}}3,100
|}

===Shirts===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{x color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{x color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Shirt
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Down Jacket
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Friday to Sunday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}120,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Down Jacket
| Anistar City Boutique
| Friday to Sunday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}15,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Down Jacket
| Anistar City Boutique
| Friday to Sunday
| Aqua
| {{PDollar}}15,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Hoodie
| N/A
| N/A
| Olive
| {{PDollar}}N/A
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Hoodie
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Friday
| Aqua
| {{PDollar}}4,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Hoodie
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Saturday, Sunday
| Yellow
| {{PDollar}}4,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| King T-Shirt
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Friday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}12,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Logo T-Shirt
| N/A
| N/A
| White
| {{PDollar}}N/A
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Logo T-Shirt
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Friday
| Orange
| {{PDollar}}2,100
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Logo T-Shirt
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Saturday
| Green
| {{PDollar}}2,100
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Logo T-Shirt
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Sunday
| Blue
| {{PDollar}}2,100
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Logo T-Shirt
| N/A
| N/A
| Yellow
| {{PDollar}}N/A
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Plaid Shirt Combo
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}120,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Plaid Shirt Combo
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Saturday
| Gray
| {{PDollar}}120,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Splatter Paint T-Shirt
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Friday, Saturday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}4,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Splatter Paint T-Shirt
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Friday, Saturday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}4,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Splatter Paint T-Shirt
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Sunday
| Purple
| {{PDollar}}4,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Striped Shirt Combo
| N/A
| N/A
| Purple
| {{PDollar}}N/A
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Striped Shirt Combo
| N/A
| N/A
| Red
| {{PDollar}}N/A
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Striped Shirt Combo
| Laverre City Boutique
| Friday, Saturday
| Aqua
| {{PDollar}}6,400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Striped Shirt Combo
| Laverre City Boutique
| Sunday
| Pale Pink
| {{PDollar}}6,400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Twin T-Shirt
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Saturday, Sunday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}12,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| V-Neck T-Shirt
| Laverre City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}5,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| V-Neck T-Shirt
| N/A
| N/A
| White
| {{PDollar}}N/A
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| V-Neck T-Shirt
| Laverre City Boutique
| Saturday, Sunday
| Pink
| {{PDollar}}5,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| V-Neck T-Shirt
| Laverre City Boutique
| Friday, Saturday
| Aqua
| {{PDollar}}5,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Zipped Jacket
| Default
| N/A
| Blue
| {{PDollar}}0
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Zipped Jacket
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Friday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}2,900
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Zipped Jacket
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Saturday, Sunday
| Green
| {{PDollar}}2,900
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Zipped Jacket
| N/A
| N/A
| Black
| {{PDollar}}N/A
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Zipped Jacket
| Anistar City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday
| Navy blue
| {{PDollar}}8,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Zipped Jacket
| Anistar City Boutique
| Saturday
| Orange
| {{PDollar}}8,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Zipped Shirt Combo
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Friday, Saturday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}100,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Zipped Shirt Combo
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Sunday
| White
| {{PDollar}}100,000
|}

===Pants===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{x color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{x color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Pants
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Camo Pants
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Saturday, Sunday
| Green
| {{PDollar}}6,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Camo Pants
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Friday
| Gray
| {{PDollar}}6,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Checked Pants
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Friday to Sunday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}180,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Checked Pants
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Friday, Saturday
| Gray
| {{PDollar}}180,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Chinos
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Friday to Sunday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}8,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Chinos
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Friday to Sunday
| Beige
| {{PDollar}}8,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Cuffed Jeans
| Anistar City Boutique
| Saturday
| Blue
| {{PDollar}}10,500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Damaged Jeans
| Anistar City Boutique
| Friday to Sunday
| Aqua
| {{PDollar}}10,500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Short Cargo Pants
| Anistar City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}10,500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Short Cargo Pants
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday
| Olive
| {{PDollar}}2,900
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Short Cargo Pants
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Saturday, Sunday
| Purple
| {{PDollar}}2,900
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Skinny Jeans
| Default
| N/A
| Blue
| {{PDollar}}0
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Skinny Jeans
| N/A
| N/A
| Brown
| {{PDollar}}N/A
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Skinny Jeans
| Laverre City Boutique
| Friday to Sunday
| Beige
| {{PDollar}}10,500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Skinny Jeans
| Laverre City Boutique
| Friday to Sunday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}10,500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Vinyl Pants
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}180,000
|}

===Socks===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{x color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{x color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Socks
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Ankle Socks
| Default
| N/A
| Black
| {{PDollar}}0
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Ankle Socks
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Saturday, Sunday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}900
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Ankle Socks
| Anistar City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday
| Green
| {{PDollar}}900
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Ankle Socks
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday
| Purple
| {{PDollar}}900
|}

===Shoes===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{x color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{x color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Shoes
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Loafers
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Friday to Sunday
| Brown
| {{PDollar}}80,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Loafers
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Friday to Sunday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}80,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Short Boots
| Default
| N/A
| Black
| {{PDollar}}0
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Short Boots
| Laverre City Boutique
| Friday to Sunday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}10,500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Short Boots
| Laverre City Boutique
| Friday to Sunday
| Brown
| {{PDollar}}10,500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Sneakers
| Anistar City Boutique
| Friday to Sunday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}10,500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Sneakers
| Anistar City Boutique
| Friday to Sunday
| White
| {{PDollar}}10,500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Sneakers
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Friday to Sunday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}3,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Sneakers
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Friday to Sunday
| Blue
| {{PDollar}}6,400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Sneakers
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday
| Yellow
| {{PDollar}}6,400
|}

===Bags===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{x color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{x color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Bag
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Two-Tone Bag
| Default
| N/A
| Black
| {{PDollar}}0
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Two-Tone Bag
| Cyllage City Boutique
| Friday to Sunday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}2,900
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Two-Tone Bag
| Laverre City Boutique
| Friday to Sunday
| Olive
| {{PDollar}}9,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Two-Tone Bag
| Anistar City Boutique
| Friday to Sunday
| Aqua
| {{PDollar}}9,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Two-Tone Bag
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Friday to Sunday
| Orange
| {{PDollar}}9,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Vinyl Messenger Bag
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Sunday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}100,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Vinyl Messenger Bag
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Friday, Saturday
| Brown
| {{PDollar}}100,000
|}

===Accessories===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{x color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{x color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Accessory
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Button Accessory
| Santalune City Boutique Cyllage City Boutique
| Friday to Sunday Friday
| Gray
| {{PDollar}}500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Button Accessory
| Santalune City Boutique Cyllage City Boutique
| Friday to Sunday Saturday, Sunday
| Pink
| {{PDollar}}500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Button Accessory
| Santalune City Boutique Anistar City Boutique
| Friday to Sunday Friday to Sunday
| Purple
| {{PDollar}}500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Button Accessory
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Sunday
| Yellow
| {{PDollar}}2,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Button Accessory
| Santalune City Boutique Snowbelle City Boutique
| Friday, Saturday Friday
| Lime Green
| {{PDollar}}500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Feather Accessory
| Laverre City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}2,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Feather Accessory
| Santalune City Boutique Laverre City Boutique
| Friday, Sunday Saturday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}1,400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Feather Accessory
| Santalune City Boutique
| Saturday
| Green
| {{PDollar}}1,400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Wide-Frame Sunglasses
| Default
| N/A
| Black
| {{PDollar}}0
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Wide-Frame Sunglasses
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Saturday
| Yellow
| {{PDollar}}40,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Wide-Frame Sunglasses
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Friday
| Red
| {{PDollar}}40,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Wide-Frame Sunglasses
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Sunday
| White
| {{PDollar}}40,000
|}

==List of Female clothes==
===Hats===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{y color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{y color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Hat
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Felt Hat
| Santalune City Boutique
| Friday
| Navy Blue
| {{PDollar}}800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Felt Hat
| Santalune City Boutique
| Saturday
| Brown
| {{PDollar}}2,400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Felt Hat
| Default
| N/A
| Pink
| {{PDollar}}0
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Felt Hat
| Santalune City Boutique Anistar City Boutique
| Friday Saturday
| Pale Pink
| {{PDollar}}800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Felt Hat
| Santalune City Boutique
| Saturday
| Aqua
| {{PDollar}}800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Logo Cap
| Santalune City Boutique
| Friday
| Pink
| {{PDollar}}1,600
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Logo Cap
| Santalune City Boutique
| Saturday
| Black
| {{PDollar}}1,600
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Cycling Cap
| Snowbelle City Boutique
| Saturday
| Blue
| {{PDollar}}6,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Cycling Cap
| Santalune City Boutique
| Friday, Saturday
| Beige
| {{PDollar}}3,100
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Fedora
| Lumiose City Boutique
| Saturday
| Brown
| {{PDollar}}100,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Fedora
| Santalune City Boutique Cyllage City Boutique
| Saturday Saturday
| Yellow
| {{PDollar}}2,100
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Fedora
| Santalune City Boutique Laverre City Boutique
| Friday Saturday
| Green
| {{PDollar}}2,600
|}

===Shirts===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{y color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{y color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Shirt
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Poké Ball Baby Doll Tee
|Cyllage City Boutique
|N/A
|Yellow
|{{PDollar}}2,100
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Poké Ball Baby Doll Tee
|N/A
|N/A
|Green
|{{PDollar}}0
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Tie-Neck Blouse
|Lumiose City Boutique
|N/A
|Grey
|{{PDollar}}100,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Tie-Neck Blouse
|Lumiose City Boutique
|N/A
|Red
|{{PDollar}}100,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Shirt and Tie
|Lumiose City Boutique
|N/A
|Blue
|{{PDollar}}120,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Shot Parka
|Cyllage City Boutique
|N/A
|Blue
|{{PDollar}}2,400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Short Parka
|Cyllage City Boutique
|N/A
|Blue
|{{PDollar}}2,400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Striped Tank Top
|Cyllage City Boutique
|N/A
|Black
|{{PDollar}}N/A
|}

===Pants===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{y color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{y color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Pants
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Accented Jeans
|Cyllage City Boutique
|Saturday
|Yellow
|{{PDollar}}2,900
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Pleated Skirt
|Lumiose City Boutique
|N/A
|Red
|{{PDollar}}80,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Bold Striped Pants
|Lumiose City Boutique
|N/A
|Blue
|{{PDollar}}180,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Jean Shorts
|Cyllage City Boutique
|N/A
|Pink
|{{PDollar}}2,400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Skinny Jeans
|N/A
|N/A
|Aqua
|{{PDollar}}0
|}

===Dresses===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{y color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{y color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Dress
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|
|
|
|
|
|}

===Socks===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{y color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{y color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Socks
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|
|
|
|
|
|}

===Shoes===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{y color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{y color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Shoes
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|High Tops
|Default
|N/A
|Black
|{{PDollar}}0
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|High Tops
|Cyllage City Boutique
|Saturday
|Yellow
|{{PDollar}}4,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|High Tops
|Cyllage City Boutique
|Saturday
|Pink
|{{PDollar}}4,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Bow Shoes
|Lumiose City Boutique
|N/A
|Brown
|{{PDollar}}85,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Saddle Shoes
|Lumiose City Boutique
|N/A
|White
|{{PDollar}}110,000
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Laced Boots
|Laverre City Boutique
|N/A
|Black
|{{PDollar}}8,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Laced Boots
|Laverre City Boutique
|N/A
|Brown
|{{PDollar}}8,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Mary Janes
|Laverre City Boutique
|N/A
|Purple
|{{PDollar}}7,400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Mary Janes
|Anistar City Boutique
|N/A
|Pale Pink
|{{PDollar}}3,900
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Riding Boots
|Anistar City Boutique
|N/A
|Pink
|{{PDollar}}4,200
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Riding Boots
|Snowbelle City Boutique
|N/A
|Brown
|{{PDollar}}10,500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Riding Boots
|Snowbelle City Boutique
|N/A
|Black
|{{PDollar}}10,500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Zipped Boots
|Snowbelle City Boutique
|N/A
|Black
|{{PDollar}}10,500
|}

===Bags===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{y color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{y color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Bag
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Enamel-Striped Purse
|Cyllage City Boutique
|Saturday
|Blue
|{{PDollar}}2,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Enamel-Striped Purse
|Cyllage City Boutique
|N/A
|Blue
|{{PDollar}}2,800
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Tote Bag
|Default
|N/A
|Pink
|{{PDollar}}0
|}

===Accessories===
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{y color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{y color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Accessory
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Location
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Calendar Day
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Color
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Button Accessory
| Santalune City Boutique
| Saturday
| Gray
| {{PDollar}}500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Button Accessory
| Santalune City Boutique
| Saturday
| Pink
| {{PDollar}}500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Button Accessory
| Santalune City Boutique
| Saturday
| Purple
| {{PDollar}}500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Artificial Flower Pin
| Santalune City Boutique
| Saturday
| Yellow
| {{PDollar}}500
|}
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Talk:List of clothing in Pokémon X and Y

2013-10-26T16:33:33Z

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=Sorting=
What kind of sorting should we use to list the clothes? Alphabetical or the one used ingame when the alphabetical one is turned off? Or any other special order? --[[User:Sekuiya|Sekuiya]][[User talk:Sekuiya|talk]] 16:37, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
:And while we're at it, should we separate male clothes from females one? I think mixing them all can be rather confusing. --[[User:Sekuiya|Sekuiya]][[User talk:Sekuiya|talk]] 16:40, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Maybe there should be a row to tell which gender can buy the clothes? And I would think sorting items by style first found; default items would be first, then items of the same style bought, then different style items found earliest. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 16:58, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
:But there's items from the same type with different styles. Wouldn't that get a little confusing? Isn't it better to do it Alphabetical, less confusing, no? --[[User:Sekuiya|Sekuiya]][[User talk:Sekuiya|talk]] 17:08, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
::That's what I meant by items of the same style. Male's start out with black Short Boots, so that would be the first item. Then all the other Short Boots found wherever they're found, then the next available style of shoe and so on and so forth. Alphabetical would work just as well, replacing the N/A's with Default. I'm assuming after sorting items alphabetically, we'd then sort same style items by location, yes? Or would price be a better-looking format? [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 17:16, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
::: Alphabetical sounds like a better way, you can even sort alphabetical ingame, which would make it a lot easier to compare lists and find clothes you're missing. In my opinion, alphabetical is the way to go. And regarding male VS female. Maybe two different sections would be better, afterall, most of their clothes are different from ours, if not all! --[[User:Sekuiya|Sekuiya]][[User talk:Sekuiya|talk]] 17:19, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
::::Surely Socks and Accessories aren't all that different, are they? Would it look too cluttered if there were two charts side-by-side? Is that even possible? [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 17:22, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
:::::Dunno about socks, but regarding Accessories, they're the same only in Buttons, they don't the same Glasses we have nor Feathers. Regarding tables side by side, it would be possible but you would have to ask someone with more experience in wiki styling. --[[User:Sekuiya|Sekuiya]][[User talk:Sekuiya|talk]] 18:02, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

== Daily wares? ==

Can someone confirm me that the clothes available are the same depending on the day of the week and not just completely random? --[[User:Sekuiya|Sekuiya]][[User talk:Sekuiya|talk]] 19:59, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
:Well, I decided to do a week long experiment. I'll be adding the day of the week when it shows up and then in the next week see if it repeats. I hope I can catch all days. Wish me luck! Of course, if it turns to be true then can anyone can help construct the list so feel free to do so! --[[User:Sekuiya|Sekuiya]][[User talk:Sekuiya|talk]] 02:21, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

== Style ==

Should we state the style a cloth provides? I mean, the "tags" of the clothes have different patterns which, I'm guessing, is the style a certain cloth provides ranging from that bluish one, to the orange one, to the black and white one, and maxing with rainbow like one. If we add that to the list let me suggest some names. Bluish: Casual, Orange: Cool, Black: Fancy, Rainbow: Special. What do you think? Open to suggestions! --[[User:Sekuiya|Sekuiya]][[User talk:Sekuiya|talk]] 16:33, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

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==thank you==
Thank you for the kind greetings. I came and joined this wiki comunity to help with the "Pokemon + Nobunagas Ambition" game. I am a huge fan of KOEI and their games, and while i dont know much about pokemon outside the cartoons, i thought i could help by proving information regarding the human characters in the upcoming crossover game

I hope i can be of service [[User:Ixbran|Ixbran]] 07:35, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

==I have a question==
First of all thank you for the nice greeting, I apreciate it.
Also I noticed that on your page it said your favorite Pokemon was Evee. I would like to add my favorite Pokemon (Chandelure) to my page, how can I do that?
[[User:Chandelure1166|Carson]] 07:15, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
:You're welcome! Do you mean the little tag on my page? First you have to make some edits to the mainspace, so you can gain the ability to create and edit your userpage. Don't ask me how many, I don't know. Once you can do that, add <code><nowiki>{{Template:User Favorite|609|Chandelure}}</nowiki></code> to your page. For more information, look {{bp|Usertag|here}}. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 07:28, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

==Thank you==
Yes, the tag is very nice, and thanks for letting me know!
[[User:Chandelure1166|Carson]] 07:49, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

==I can't find the mainspace==
Sorry if I am bothering you, but I am new to Bulbapedia. Is there a link somwhere?
[[User:Chandelure1166|Carson]] 08:02, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
:You're not bothering me at all. "Mainspace" refers to most Bulbapedia pages that don't start with "talk:" or "user:". For example, the edit you made to {{p|Axew}}'s article counts as a mainspace edit. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 08:08, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
==it still will not let me edit my userpage==
By the way I'm glad i'm not bothering you, I don't like to do that to people
[[User:Chandelure1166|Carson]] 08:22, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
:You'll need to make several mainspace edits before you are able to edit your userpage. I don't know the exact number, but it is several. By the way, you don't need to create a new header every time you add to a talkpage. You can just click the "edit" button next to the header where the conversation started. You really only need to make a new header when starting a new conversation. {{unsigned|Crystal Talian}}
:Thanks, I will go make some edits now.
Also I was making a new header every time becuase I didn't know how to reply at that time
[[User:Chandelure1166|Chandelure1166]] 08:39, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
::No problem! And I figured it was something like that. I was just letting you know. =3 [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 08:43, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

==Can you help me?==
Hello Crystal! I don't know If you remember me cause I joined maybe four months ago or longer but I was one of the users you welcomed. Since bulbapedia is so big and I'm a sotr of new user, I'm not exactly sure what to edit (I actually joined just to help with the tyrouge page due to the fact where tyrouge was wasn't completely said). So I was sort of wondering if you possibly have a simple easy task I could do to help out the wiki?
--[[User:Minor Notes|Minor Notes]] 23:00, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

==Just one last question==
Hello, Crystal! Thanks for the suggestion of what to do. I just have one last question: for the trainer classes would it be possible to put a appearance section? I mostly noticed appearance is basically only used for pokemon and not for the human characters but I looked at another stub for a trainer class and it listed a appearance for both characters but it was in the section where game information was usually located. Well thanks for your help, bye!

== Urgent ==

Hello Crystal Talian, please check your e-mail{{tt|*|the one which you used to register on Bulbapedia}} as soon as possible, awaiting for your reply. Thank you. ♫♪ [[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']] ♪♫ 10:47, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

== Signature move ==

Where is the problem? KyleRGiggs 09:01, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
:Wait until Force Fire replies to your question before reverting him. However, I believe the problem is that this is a move tutor move. It wasn't that only Blastoise could learn, but that the tutor refused to teach it to anyone else. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 09:02, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
::I am not reverting him actually, please check what I revert. KyleRGiggs 09:13, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
:::Hitting "undo" is reverting. I did check before I said anything. However, the issue appears to have been resolved now. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 09:18, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

== Using templates ==

Instead of copying the code of the template Protect, simply write the template as such: <nowiki>{{Protect}}</nowiki>. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:36, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:I thought I did? I didn't copy the code, at least. I wasn't sure what the what the template code was, so I mimicked the way you call a welcome template. I guess the "subst" was unnecessary. Ah, well. Noted. Thank you. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 21:39, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
::Subst is only used for Welcome  template. :) All other templates do not use subst. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:40, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:::Got it. I'll be sure to remember for next time. Thanks! [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 21:43, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
::::Sorry to butt in but, subst is usually used for message templates like <nowiki>{{subst:Userspace warning}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{subst:Preview button}}</nowiki>, not just for <nowiki>{{subst:Welcome}}</nowiki>. I beleive that subst is what signs those automatic message templates for you. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 23:12, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, I mentioned that. It's hidden, haha, but yeah, what Pokemaster97 said is true. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 23:32, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
::::::Derp, I didn't notice the hidden part sorry XD '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 23:38, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

== Then Let's Bring it Up With Staff ==

To the uneducated reader who knows nothing about Pokémon and is trying to decide which game to buy as their first, such entries as the one I attempted to correct can be very misleading. Anyone looking at the Butterfree or Metapod articles can easily see at the top of the article that it evolves from Caterpie, but cannot catch it in Black; however, the text in cases like Metapod suggests that a player who wants a Butterfree HAS to play White, and cannot trade the Pokémon from Black, thus requiring a player who wants to catch Reshiram (that was my deciding factor, I wanted the white legendary) to purchase White instead. This is completely misleading to an uneducated reader, and it is wrong to assume that everyone will understand that you can still evolve it in Black. After all, clicking a Caterpie link from Metapod's page already shows you can only catch Caterpie in White.

This is a task I'm willing to undertake myself as well, I'm just trying to establish a correct precedent. The existing one is entirely flawed. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 01:04, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
:I understand your concern, and I agree that it is a good point. The next time I have the chance to talk with staff, I will bring up your point, and we will let you know when a decision is made on the subject. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 01:10, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

::Fair enough. Give me a heads-up on my talk page when that occurs; I constantly refer back to things here more often than anywhere else, so I'll see it. Let the staff know I'm willing to take this on myself as well, and if I do make an odd mistake somewhere, they're welcome to clean up after me where necessary. Hopefully that won't happen very often. =D [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 01:14, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
== thanks for the warm welcome ==
i wanted to thank you for welcoming me and i was wondering how to put those "this user ----" on my page and where to find them [[User:Maggiedroid|Maggiedroid]] ([[User talk:Maggiedroid|talk]]) 04:59, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
:First, you're welcome. =3 And do you mean the usertags? Well, first you need to do some editing so you can start your own userpage. Don't ask me how many edits you need to do, it's a hidden number. Anyway, once you do that, you can look {{bp|Usertag|here}} for information on usertags. Have fun! [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 06:06, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

== Name Translations ==

Hey Crystal Talian, I just saw your message and I just wanted to say, first, sorry about that, I'm not fluent in Japanese, and I was looking for something to edit, and I thought that I could do that by translating something from English to Japanese; second, that I didn't really know how the translations worked, which is why I translated the English names back into Japanese; and third, I don't own a Japanese copy of a Hoenn-based game (As I live in the US, and it's realtively hard to get one in and around where I live).The next time I edit a page on Bulbapedia, and any other site for that matter, I'll make sure I know what I'm doing before I start editing. I'll also make sure that the next I edit a page on the site, I'll make sure it will be not only tested personally, but also that it follows the conduct of Bulbapedia and that if it deals with another language that I'm not fluent in, I promise that I won't translate on this site until one of the following is true:
A) I'm fluent in that language (I'm currently fluent in only English, but I'm working on becoming fluent in German)
B) I use an offical site to translate (i.e. a govt. website)
or
C) If I'm thinking about editing, one of the above is true

I'll become fluent in any language, if needed. I am actually thinking about becoming fluent in Japanese, amongst a few other languages. One final thing, I wasn't really thinking about how the translating worked, especially with languages like English and Japanese, which have little to no connection. If you (Or another Bulbapedia staf member) have any problem with anything I edit, like this one, just feel free to edit that page back and tell me. Thanks for pointing that out, and telling me about how translating generally works. Thanks! [[User Talk:Grayglove|Grayglove]]
==A little help, please==
I have been creating battlefield sections for the kingdoms of Pokémon Conquest and would like to create a battlefield page. It looks like I now have the right to create pages, so could you please tell me a bit about creating them? Sorry to bother you. The editing help doesn't help. LOL! Either way, I would really appreciate it if you helped me out. [[User:Eeveewithwings123|Eeveewithwings123]] ([[User talk:Eeveewithwings123|talk]]) 21:50, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
:You're not bothering me at all. As far as getting a page started, all you have to do is run a search for the title of the page you want to make, and click the link to create the page. As far as the content for that page, I suggest you look over the other Conquest pages and how they are written and set up, and then maybe go over the {{bp|manual of style}}. Other than that, just go with your instincts. Good luck and have fun! [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 03:07, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Umm... I've been too busy to do the page yet (and a bit scared, I know it's stupid to worry about it, I'm just not that good at codes and all), but what would you use for a suffix to show that the article is for the conquest games and not any others? Thanks in advance!--[[User:Eeveewithwings123|Eeveewithwings123]] ([[User talk:Eeveewithwings123|talk]]) 16:01, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
:Since we don't have any other battlefield pages, a suffix isn't needed to distinguish it. But if you're wanting to make a different page that will need a distinction, the suffix would be (Conquest). I don't think it would be needed for any pages at the moment, though. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 00:28, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

I've suddenly lost my ability to create pages... Why? [[User:Eeveewithwings123|Eeveewithwings123]] ([[User talk:Eeveewithwings123|talk]]) 14:24, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
:Can you tell me what the name of the page you're trying to create is? And what message it gives you when you try to create a page? You may be trying to create a page under a protected namespace. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 07:11, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

==A question==
Hello Crystal! I have a question and I thought you would probably be able to answer it. Can any user, including the ones that are admins or higher, use obscenities on their user pages? I was just sort of wondering since I found this bureaucrat, [[User:Darkeiya]], using a obscenity in a user box and that confused me since I thought Bulbapedia had rules against that.If you could answer my question I would greatly appreciate it. [[User:Minor Notes|Minor Notes]] ([[User talk:Minor Notes|talk]]) 03:51, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
:There are rules against it in mainspace articles. However, so long as it is within reason and not specifically directed at a person (or group of people), its allowed on userpages and talkpages. So long as it is not excessive, it's nothing to worry about. Thank you for your concern, though. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 04:35, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Thankyou for answering my question. The obscenity is directed at a villian in the game so does that change it or is it just different if it is directed at a living person?[[User:Minor Notes|Minor Notes]] ([[User talk:Minor Notes|talk]]) 16:04, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
:Only a living person, as it would then be against the Code of Conduct. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 03:51, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for answering my question yet again. Now take for instance the God the Christians believe is real and say that some one uses a obscenity and directs it at that God, would that have to be taken down since Christians believe He is real or would it simply be ignored since not everyone believes He is real?[[User:Minor Notes|Minor Notes]] ([[User talk:Minor Notes|talk]]) 23:38, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
:That would be offensive to a particular group of people, so that would not be allowed. To put it simply, swearing is okay in the userspace and talkpages so long as it is not offensive to a person or persons. So, if someone is swearing at at game, a game character, or nothing in particular, then that is fine. On the other hand, if someone is directing that obscenity at a person, people, entity, or concept that insults or offends someone, it would not be allowed. If you think that something you want to say might offend someone, then don't say it. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 04:44, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your help Crystal! I thought by leaving you a message you might get back to me the next month (since I have had dreadful experiences on talk pages for articles and I thought this would be the same) but I was very surprised that you got back to me in less then a day. Thank you so much for answering my questions but I'm afraid I've got another one (I believe this one will be my last). Now say for instance a user takes a word that is less then a obscenity but is in the same category and then put the word God in front of it and then uses that word to insult themselves. Would that be allowed because they were insulting themselves or would that be not allowed for they would be insulting both God and themselves? I was wondering about that after seeing a [[User:TTEchidna|user]] do that exact thing.[[User:Minor Notes|Minor Notes]] ([[User talk:Minor Notes|talk]]) 23:45, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
:I really can't run through every possible scenario. The main thing is to avoid offending people. If you think you're going to offend someone, just don't say it. If you're worried about something someone else said, staff will get to it if it is a problem (and if the user hasn't already been banned). Bulbapedia does not discriminate against any race, religion, or ethnic background. If someone is openly expressing discretions against these groups they will be blocked indefinitely whether they use swear words or not. In the case of the provided situation, it would not be allowed as it may offend some people. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 00:45, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your help but I think I would just annoy the staff...[[User:Minor Notes|Minor Notes]] ([[User talk:Minor Notes|talk]]) 02:37, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

== Moving Sections ==

Crystal i am new and i made a new section on a page and how do i move it to a new place([[User:Icestar649|Icestar649]] ([[User talk:Icestar649|talk]]) 22:22, 19 December 2012 (UTC))
:Hello. First, please add new talkpage comments to the bottom of the page. I've moved this comment for you. To move the section you created, all you need to do is copy-paste it to the area of the page where you want to be (make sure you delete it from the original area so it isn't on the page twice). However, I would suggest simply putting the section in the correct area of the page to begin with. To bring up the whole page for editing, just click the "edit this page" tab at the top of page and add the new section where it needs to be. I went ahead and looked over the section you added, and removed it as it was not the right style for this website. Please work your grammar and do not use "you" when writing for articles here. I would suggest that you look over the {{bp|manual of style}}, it'll help you out with some of the basics of editing here. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 22:59, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
==Merry Christmas==
Dear Crystal Tailan, thank you so much for the help and time you have given me. I hope you have a happy new year and a merry Christmas. Because your favourite pokemon is evee, I recoloured it and turned it into a Christmas evee by using Christmas colour (red and green). I hope you like it and have a great day. http://images.wikia.com/peepandthebigwideworld/images/c/ce/Chirstmas_Eevee.png
[[User:Minor Notes|Minor Notes]] ([[User talk:Minor Notes|talk]]) 02:37, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
:I do like it. Thank you so much for your thoughtful gift. <3 [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 05:01, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Your welcome.--[[User:Minor Notes|Minor Notes]] ([[User talk:Minor Notes|talk]]) 14:12, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

==Shuckle==
Shuckle going to make Rare Candy from Berry Juice. However sadly, the function was removed. --[[User:Samueljoo|Samueljoo]] ([[User talk:Samueljoo|talk]]) 06:54, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
:Yes? May I please ask why you are telling me this? [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 10:23, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
==Ask what?==
Ask what? --[[User:Samueljoo|Samueljoo]] ([[User talk:Samueljoo|talk]]) 09:04, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
:Why did you tell me about Shuckle? Or is this message referring to the one I recently left you? [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 09:06, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
==I don't know who to ask I thought you might==
Hello Crystal. My brother made a account (his user name is NOBODY) and he for some reason isn't getting a conformation email no matter how many times he clicks on the thing to get it. I'm not exactly sure who to ask about this and I thought you might know. If you can tell me who to ask that would be great. Have a nice day. --[[User:Minor Notes|Minor Notes]] ([[User talk:Minor Notes|talk]]) 20:11, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
:Check the spam folder to make sure that it hasn't got caught by the spam filter? [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 05:19, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

== Help please ==

I cannot edit my user page and I would like to remove all my data. I do not want to make any further edits other than removing all the text on my user page. Please help. [[User:Bageese|Bageese]] ([[User talk:Bageese|talk]]) 09:12, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
:If you are leaving the site and wish for your page to be deleted, staff will take care of that for you. The reason why you can't edit your page is because new users have to make a certain number of mainspace contributions before they are allowed to edit their userpages. I realize that you are not a new user, but you have not made any edits since this rule was put in place a long time ago. So, the restriction is having an effect on you as well. If you wish to stay, you simply need to make some contributions and you'll be able to edit your page again. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 22:41, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

::Can you just delete my account for me then? That would be appreciated, I'm more of a reader, not a contributor. =) [[User:Bageese|Bageese]] ([[User talk:Bageese|talk]]) 01:01, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
:::We have deleted your page for you, but we can't actually remove the whole account. If you don't want to log into it, you don't have to do so. The only thing that will remain is your talkpage for archival reasons. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 01:13, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

== "If there are six, it's not notable" ==

Technically, it's only five, since Deoxys differs via forme. Is five a small enough number out of 650 to be deemed notable? Sweeping statistics like this at a glance are of considerable use to people who play competitively. [[User:Jumpman16|Jumpman16]] ([[User talk:Jumpman16|talk]]) 03:54, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
:I'm afraid that five is still too many. We also don't typically include competitive based trivia. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 04:00, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

== Article about Misty's Gyarados ==

Hello, im bringing this up because way article about Gyarados was written brings confusion among fans making it seem like things are based on assumptions rather than actual proof itself. Its listed on main page as Misty pokemon, but in article about Gyarados way its worded make it seem like its gym pokemon. Which many fans find confusing judging by comments you can read online.

Since going by canon and what was showed in anime from moment Misty earned its trust Gyarados was showed to be used and trained only by her. One of proof to this was revealed in episode "Togepi Mirage" when Misty stated how she trained Gyarados teaching it flamethrower. Like its been already brought up in article Gyarados seem to establish special bond with Misty , bond we never saw existing between him and Daisy, Violet or LIly. Before MIsty returned to gym earning its respect it was also showed how he didn't listened to anyone being out of control, until Misty intervened choosing to be her partner and nothing afterwards indicate how anyone else beside Misty use him befriending it.

Which is one of basic ways trainers acquire new pokemon.Otherwise if we are going to count only captured pokemon as ones which belong to someone, than same logic could be applied to Dawn Togekiss or Brock Onix which they received as gifts from others. Or all befriended pokemon others acquired on travels.
In comparison all Brock pokemon are currently at gym, but that doesn't mean they belong to gym and new gym leader Forest.

Gyarados may be gym pokemon before(even though in canon such thing has never been stated), but that doesn't necessarily mean it still belongs to gym with canon treating it more as Misty's than gym pokemon. There are plenty other gym pokemon like Dewgong, Shelder, Goldeen etc but we don't see Misty taking them with her outside the gym, nor she was ever showed to be using them.Let alone being listed as her pokemon.
Only Gyarados is being taken with her whenever she leaves gym being treated in similar manner like Corsola, Staryu and other pokemon which belong to her are.It was also showed how she is the only one training it, learning flamethrower in process.
Likewise on every site whether its SPPF, or some Japanese poke site Gyarados is listed as one of Misty pokemon with only bulbapedia causing confusion listing it at same time both as Misty and gym pokemon?

Therefore i believe judging by what canon showed so far it would be more accurate to classify Gyarados as Misty rather than gym pokemon since unlike its case with other pokemon we reliably know belong to Cerulean, Gyarados is another story bring showed to have special bond only with Misty listening, training and being taken with her whenever she leaves gym. For all aforementioned reasons wouldn't it be more authentic to say how Gyarados is pokemon Misty befriended, since its treated basically like every pokemon which belongs to Misty? --[[User:Pokemon fan 132|Pokemon fan 132]] ([[User talk:Pokemon fan 132|talk]]) 08:46, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

== I wanted to ask before reverting this image to an earlier version ==

Somehow, [[[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Shiny_Sandshrew_IV.png]]] seems like a hazard to epileptics. Or non epileptics. Or any one, really --[[User:Shadowater|Shadowater]] ([[User talk:Shadowater|talk]]) 07:14, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
:The current version is fine. I doubt it'll cause any seizures, as the movement is slow and small. Thank you for your concern, though. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 07:59, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

== Move trivia ==

I don't think that "the only non-X-type Pokémon that can learn the move" trivia should be on the move pages, since you can see it easily just by looking at the move lists (which is why sprite trivia isn't allowed). For example, when you read the {{m|Poison Gas}} page, you'll notice immediately that Drowzee and Hypno are the only Psychic types without having to read the trivia section.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 21:50, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
:I considered that, but it really doesn't belong on Pokémon species pages either. Being the only one not of a type to learn it is potentially notable, but the major question is where to put it. It is easily visible on the move pages, but it's not really relevant on the species pages since it's more about the move than the Pokémon. I will look into the best place to put them tonight. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 22:09, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
::I'm also dumbfounded as to why you reverted my edits. In my opinion, all those reversions and pseudo-reversions of yours should be reverted, as the trivia does not belong in the move articles (see my talk page), and if it is notable, then of course the species articles are the appropriate locations. Really can't follow the logic in the argument that the content is not relevant for the species articles. How is it not? I'd even say it's more about the Pokémon than the move. Do you think that the fact that Bagon and its evolutionary relatives are the only non-Fire-type Pokémon to learn Ember says more about Ember than the Pokémon? I don't. I'd appreciate it if you could just undo your brash actions, disregarding any face-saving that could be gained from arguing and making this "major question" more complicated than it has to be; there are two location options, one is inapproriate due to being beyond redundant, the other is not - species articles if notable, nowhere if not notable. That was the conclusion I reached when editing, reflected in my edit summaries, so if you want to oppose that, at least make up your mind before reverting. Also, it appears your reversions are made without regard to my grammar-fixes (compare your restored Flame Wheel (move) to what you removed from Rattata (Pokémon)), which is, you know, counterproductive. [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 16:00, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

== How to add pictures ==

I really want to add a picture, how? [[User:Gelato Gelato|Gelato Gelato]] ([[User talk:Gelato Gelato|talk]]) 01:40, 29 March 2013 (UTC)Gelato Gelato
:Pictures need to be uploaded to the Bulbagarden Archives before the they can be added to Bulbapedia. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 05:48, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

== I remembered in Answer.com ==

Somebody copied information from Regigas.[[User:Gelato Gelato|Gelato Gelato]] ([[User talk:Gelato Gelato|talk]]) 01:44, 29 March 2013 (UTC)Gelato Gelato
:If it's only to Answer.com, then it's not something to worry about. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 05:48, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

== About Pupitar? ==

In the Pokédex entries of Pupitar in FireRed and Silver it describes Pupitar as fast, but it is not really that fast for a Pokemon at Level 30. And I would aalso like to add "despite its Pokédex entries it can be damage by steel-type.[[User:Gelato Gelato|Gelato Gelato]] ([[User talk:Gelato Gelato|talk]]) 05:34, 30 March 2013 (UTC)Gelato Gelato
:Pokedex entries do not necessarily relate to in-game mechanics. The games can only do so much. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 05:36, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
::How about in the trivia section of Escavalier: "Although Escavalier's Pokédex entry states that it flies around at high speed, its base speed is among the lowest of all known Pokémon, at just 20, nor can this species have the Ability Levitate.".[[User:Gelato Gelato|Gelato Gelato]] ([[User talk:Gelato Gelato|talk]]) 08:42, 30 March 2013 (UTC)Gelato Gelato
:::I will be removing that when I can get to it. Staff had a discussion a short while ago, and it was decided to remove trivia such as this. However, as there are currently over six hundred Pokémon, it is difficult to remove all the trivia at once. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 09:29, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

== "Out of three Pokemon, so not notable" ==

Since this is noting a record, and not a peculiar trait, I don't see how this notability requirement enters into it. Would you remove the similar record from the Hydreigon article if it was shared with two other species? [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 07:54, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
:I can understand why you didn't respond to my message in the "Move trivia" section, since that wasn't entirely a question, and (judging from the current state of the articles) it seems like I got through anyway, but ignoring this question seems against the purpose of talk pages. How does this not merit a response? (A week has passed, and you've been actively replying to/handling subsequent talk page messages from other users.) [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 10:33, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
::I apologize for your wait, but I have not replied because there is not currently an answer to give. Stat trivia is under discussion among staff and a decision has yet to be reached. For the time being, trivia relating to highest/lowest stat is remaining on the site regardless of a tie or not. However, the majority of staff agrees that the tie for "lowest level required for evolution" is not notable. Neither are most other ties. However, since a few are still being discussed, I did not want to reply and give you the wrong information as that would cause problems later. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 02:51, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
:::Very well, thank you for informing me - no need to follow up here when you're done discussing. [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 08:02, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

== Regarding Tyranitar ==

About Tyranitar that was so stupid of me :3. I don't know how to describe it but if you look above the scaled (a reference from Larvitar's page)blue rhombus you can see the armor fom the lower body is not connected to the armor on the upper body.[[User:Gelato Gelato|Gelato Gelato]] ([[User talk:Gelato Gelato|talk]]) 08:46, 30 March 2013 (UTC)Gelato Gelato
:You mean that the scales overlap? [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 09:29, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
::Yes![[User:Gelato Gelato|Gelato Gelato]] ([[User talk:Gelato Gelato|talk]]) 09:53, 30 March 2013 (UTC)Gelato Gelato
:::That doesn't mean they aren't connected. Just that they overlap and you can't see where they connect. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 04:32, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

== Regarding Mew's name origin ==

According to Webster's Universal English Thesaurus:
mew vb confine, coop, encase, enclose, imprison;cast, change, mold, shed.
That is why I said Mew's name origin comes from the word (don't worry I'm going to change it into verb when I edit)mew.[[User:Gelato Gelato|Gelato Gelato]] ([[User talk:Gelato Gelato|talk]]) 12:29, 30 March 2013 (UTC)Gelato Gelato
::Just because a word can mean something, doesn't mean that it does in every case. The usage of the word in this way seems unlikely (and therefore not notable) in Mew's origin. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 04:32, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
:::..., for example:"The chameleon mew its color."[[User:Gelato Gelato|Gelato Gelato]] ([[User talk:Gelato Gelato|talk]]) 05:33, 5 April 2013 (UTC)Gelato Gelato
:::: "Mew" is more often used in reference to birds moulting. Is that an example of your own, or one from another website? Because my research indicates that it only used to indicate a change in birds. An example from the Oxford dictionary: "the {{tt|eyasses|young hawks}} clung dully to their leashes as if they were mewing", referring to hawks in moult. The definition "to confine" is also primary used in reference to birds used for hawking. This has nothing to do with the Pokémon Mew. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 05:42, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
:::::My own. Well cloud and sky are completely different in definition, but their synonymous because they come from the same latin word.[[User:Gelato Gelato|Gelato Gelato]] ([[User talk:Gelato Gelato|talk]]) 05:54, 5 April 2013 (UTC)Gelato Glato
::::::The clouds are the sky are not synonymous simply because they come from the same word. You cannot use "sky" to mean "cloud" or vice versa. The word "mew" coming from the same word as "mutant" does not mean it should be added to Mew's page in the context of "change". This word used in this way has a strong connotation towards birds, which the Pokémon clearly is not. It is notable to have ''mutant'' in Mew's name origin, but that is already there. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 06:02, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
:::::::My English Teacher said that. Ok. Ok.[[User:Gelato Gelato|Gelato Gelato]] ([[User talk:Gelato Gelato|talk]]) 09:36, 5 April 2013 (UTC)Gelato Gelato

== Best Eeveelution? ==

Who is the best eeveelution? And why/ If none, why Eevee?[[User:Gelato Gelato|Gelato Gelato]] ([[User talk:Gelato Gelato|talk]]) 05:47, 31 March 2013 (UTC)Gelato Gelato
:Talkpages really aren't the place to discuss stuff like this. You're welcome to talk about it with me and other users on the forums, however. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 06:18, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

== Gender ==

Are the gender of N's Pokémon's set?[[User:Gelato Gelato|Gelato Gelato]] ([[User talk:Gelato Gelato|talk]]) 13:48, 17 May 2013 (UTC)Gelato Gelato

== Regarding the my Darumaka edit ==

Is there a way that I could present the info that would be appropriate? [[User:Antiyonder|Antiyonder]] ([[User talk:Antiyonder|talk]]) 03:56, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
:If it is not already there, I would put it in the Trivia section of the page for the episode. It may also go in the Trivia section of Darumaka's page. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 04:02, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

== Cartoon Network ==

How reliable is Cartoon Network? They have [[BW123]] as Farewell, Unova! Setting Sail for New Adventures!, and on the [[List of anime episodes]], it's just Farewell, Unova!. — [[User:Reshi643|Reshi]][[User talk:Reshi643|643]] 03:12, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
:It would be better to check the official site for episode titles if possible. The absolute best source to use is the title card of the episode itself when it aired on TV, the second would be the DVD title card (they occasionally make corrections, which are usually mentioned as trivia), third would be the official site, and the Cartoon Network would be at the bottom of the pecking order. So while CN is somewhat reliable, we would prefer the use of a different source if possible. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 03:43, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

== BW134 ==

Should all of the Pokémon under the [[BW134#Photographs|Photographs]] section be listed under the Minor appearances of their own pages? — [[User:Reshi643|Reshi]][[User talk:Reshi643|643]] 19:30, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
:Yes. I believe they should as we have done that for other Pokémon who have appeared as pictures or photographs. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 19:37, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

== Reversion of Special abilities section initiative ==

I expected that edit to be reverted in a flash due to not being protocol or whatever, so here goes the discussion. Your comment: "''I am aware other pages do this, but this not meant to be a list of moves learned (even rare ones) we try to limit this only to signature moves.''" I am not aware other pages do this, which pages do this? Of course it's not meant to be a list of moves learned, those are in the Learnset sections, what are you getting at? Summarizing which "rare" moves the various species can learn by leveling up, in their Special abilities sections, was clearly my intention, and if I may say so, an almost objective improvement of these sections, spot on in terms of subject matter. Full implementation would of course wait until a threshold has been decided and Generation VI has been launched. Instead of telling me that it's not protocol, and you prefer to only include "signature moves", why don't you explain why you think my initiative is not a good idea, which will improve these sections? Or in case you're not acting out of direct disagreement, refer me to whoever it is you think you're pleasing by reverting this initiative of mine. [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 08:02, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
:Many pages provide a list of "notable" or rarely learned moves. As for which pages, pretty much every Pokemon species page we have. {{p|Bulbasaur}} alone is a good example of what I mean. The problem here is that we do not want ''any moves'' other than signature moves or previously signature moves listed in a Pokemon's biology section. The reason they have not been removed yet is because of an upcoming change in the biology section. It'll be easier to make the changes together instead of making many individual edits. I actually did not remove your edit due to any protocol regarding changes. Although, as I have told you before, any change that will affect or be implented on a large number of pages should be discussed before it is implemented anywhere. New ideas should not be tested in the mainspace. Mainspace testing creates large inconsistencies across pages, as well as a couple of other problems. Please, if you have an idea for a change, bring it up with staff first or test it in your userpace. Thanks. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 12:20, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
::The Bulbasaur article lists 13 moves, and uses colorful language. By my method, using a threshold, only 1 move (i.e. Seed Bomb (Bulbasaur does not learn Power Whip or Bullet Seed by leveling up)) would be listed, and it would not be presented in colorful language. As such, I think that is a horrible example, and focusing on these supposed similar instances in your reply derails the discussion - I don't know of any, so they played no role in my editing. You say that you (we) do not want any moves other than "signature moves" listed, but I asked you to explain this opinion, not repeat it. And I don't see how this initiative has to interfere with these "upcoming changes", which I have no idea what are about, as you ignored to elaborate on them back in April at my talk page, section "Examples in the Mainspace". It's not really testing, neither was the Tynamo edit, which you similarly reprimanded me on back in April; they're single edits, improving the encyclopedic article, breaking no rules whatsoever, not forcing other articles to follow suit, and even easy to revert. You're telling me to bring it up with staff first, and at the same time, you (a member of staff) refuse to actually discuss this initiative upon my invitation, right here. I don't know what to make of that, really. And I've used talk pages a lot, when my ideas involve large changes, but you can see for yourself how much that has achieved so far, even when people do agree with me. I feel like you have a habit of [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Tynamo_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&diff=1889491&oldid=1889385 just] [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Tynamo_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&diff=1889494&oldid=1889491 removing] [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Tynamo_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&diff=1889505&oldid=1889494 content] without addressing the idea itself, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Tynamo_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&diff=1889494&oldid=1889491 sometimes without even making sense]. This is without mentioning your actions (or lack thereof) in relation to the matter "discussed" on your talk page, section "Move trivia". I've even got a section on my own talk page named after you, completely incognito, out of the blue, still clueless as to how that came about. If you have to disapprove of an idea, can't you at least engage in dialogue about the actual idea, or otherwise leave the reversions to people who are willing to do so? [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 13:38, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
:::A Pokemon's moveset has nothing to do with its special abilities. If more than one Pokemon can learn a move ''by any means at all'', then it is not special to that Pokemon. This is why we would ideally like to include only signature or previously signature moves. They are unique and therefore "special" to that particular Pokemon. "Single" mainspace edits such as your Tynamo and Munna edits are not actually singular. They set a standard. If we note something or display something on one page, we must be consistent and do it on all similar pages. So when you, or anyone else, adds references (as in the Tynamo edit) or set a certain standard (such as Munna) then all similar pages should do the same for consistency. Not to do so is unprofessional and, frankly, sloppy looking. If you wish to discuss topics like this more thoroughly, then you should create a topic on the Pokemon's or on the Pokedex Projects talkpages where it's easier for more members (and staff) to respond to it, rather than relying on my input alone. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 21:15, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
::::That's quite the bold statement; that the moves (manifestations of the powers a Pokémon possesses) a Pokémon is programmed to learn by leveling up (the most specific, direct manner of "distribution") "has nothing to do with its special abilities". The remainder of your argument hinges on equaling "special" with "unique"...may I suggest changing the section title in case that's the intended definition of the word? The can't-be-more-than-1-out-of-all-instances-argument, while often highly relevant, is not applicable to everything; you're dealing with more than 600 instances (similarities are bound to occur), and the information being cut due to enforcing this argument is not some new trivia point or whatever, but information concerning the exact subject matter of the target section. I still disagree regarding those two edit examples. They may set a standard, but that's not what constitutes the problem. What matters is whether that standard is an improvement to the site or not; if it is, consistency will eventually come around. Clearly, you wouldn't remove something good just because it makes the remaining articles look "sloppy"; you obviously remove the content because you find it adverse. This would be fine if you actually addressed/discussed the proposed idea, but your lack of involvement has been plainly obvious from this exchange. And that is unfortunate, so yes, if my ideas are to be dismissed, I would prefer "discussing them more thoroughly". With uninvolved, reverting patrollers like you around, I suppose there's no other way than proposing ideas via discussion pages, drawing from userspace page examples. If that's the way Bulbapedia is to be run, then so be it. Let's see how that goes. Case rested. [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 17:54, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
:::::For future reference, you would've saved about 6,500 bytes of futile discussion if you had told me right away that the Special abilities sections were being abandoned—without these, the initiative is irrelevant. [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 07:08, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

== Why? ==
Why did you delete my edit on emolga habitat because i thought it was a good edit. Im trying to do good additional edits so i can make my account auto-confirmed.--[[User:Oshawott213|Oshawott213]] ([[User talk:Oshawott213|talk]]) 21:38, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
:Because, if you look at the areas where Emolga are found, most of them are not forests. If you can show me some evidence that Emolga are particularly likely to be found in forests over other areas, I will happily restore your edit. However, you should not be focusing on becoming auto-confirmed. Your focus should just be good edits in general. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 21:47, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
::Additionally, you should ''not'' add something back after it has been removed. If you have problem with the removal of one your edits, you bring it up on the talkpage. Do not simply put it on the page again. That's called edit-warring and is against the rules. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 21:50, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

==The new conventions==
I recently read your MftE, and I was wondering why the changes have only been applied to Bulbasaur's page. Is that incoherence something to be fixed by the staff when this wiki is temporarily locked down due to XY? [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''オリ''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''ジ''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''ナル''']] TheOriginalOne 15:59, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
:Every page is being worked on currently. And can be done by anyone, not just staff. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 16:09, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

== Why remove Biology ==

Why are you removing most of the biology subsections like Habitat for all the Pokemon. I think it was nice to know where some Pokemon live and if they're incorrect don't remove the entire section like an idiot and update it with relevant accurate information. Removing it is a bad move. {{unsigned|Xx dan xx}}
:If you've [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Messages_from_the_Editor#August_14 read the message from the editor] on the main page, you would know why. The staff has decided to condense and rewrite the biology section into one section as it was really all over the place. The habitat is still there, just combined into one paragraph with all the other things, the only habitat related thing removed were the habitat icons as they only apply to 365/649 Pokémon. And please don't insult a staff member, saying that they're removing things like an idiot goes against the code of conduct.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:16, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

== Shellder Biology and Biology for forme changing Pokémon ==

How are we suppose to go about bringing the biology of Pokémon with multiple formes up to code? Shellder has three different shells, two of which due to a parasitic relationship with Slowpoke. Then we have Pokémon like the Kami trio who have a normal form and a forme change. Is there a certain structure to follow? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 02:03, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
:Pokemon like Kami trio will need a paragraph or so describing their separate forms. This can be done similar to how the Mega Evolutions were handled on {{p|Blaziken}} and {{p|Ampharos}}'s pages. Shellder can be handled in the same way. Since the {{p|Slowbro}} and {{p|Slowking}} forms are so similar, a single paragraph should be plenty to describe both. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 02:16, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
::Ok, thanks. I hope I did it right. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 20:07, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

== Biology Sections ==

{{p|Scolipede}}'s Biology section wasn't rewritten, just to let you know.

Also what's wrong with just removing the irrelevant headers? It's not like anybody is going to <s>die</s>faint because of it. --eww a [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|stupid person]]. D: 12:28, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
:As I said, simply removing the headers makes it difficult to tell which Pokemon have been appropriately brought up to date and which have not. It creates an unnecessary amount of complication. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 13:01, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

::How was [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Bisharp_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&diff=1959523&oldid=1954863 my edit] any different from [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Scolipede_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&diff=1954065&oldid=1953871 this one]? --The [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] 13:49, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
:::It's not so much that the edits are different, it's the way I was looking at them. I looked at Scolipede without looking at the changes made. Also, I had the time to make corrections on Scolipede when I checked it - as you can see if you look farther ahead in the history. I looked at the differences on your edit, and did not have the time to make corrections. You're welcome to help with the project, it is just very much preferred that you bring the article as up to date as possible as opposed to simply removing headers. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 21:48, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

:: Something like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Froslass_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&curid=13601&diff=1959911&oldid=1947228 this]? --[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 13:30, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
:::Your recent biology edits have been much better. Keep up the good work! [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 00:47, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

==Biology Content==
I've been adding Pokédex info to Biology sections of Pokémon [[Butterfree_(Pokémon)#Biology|such as Butterfree's]] ever since the new format was introduced. I assumed Biology would be split into 2 or 3 paragraphs: one of its physical description, another of its Pokédex data, and another of other data (anime-specific abilities, such as Bulbasaur's Bulba-by, etc). Unfortunately, we were never given a specific structure with which to write Biologies. Our only reference is [[Bulbasaur_(Pokémon)#Biology|Bulbasaur]], whose Biology is structured as: physical description with some Pokédex info, anime-exclusive info, habitat and even more anime info. That list of data is clunky, inconsistent, and mixes anime canon with game canon.

It needs to be restructured. Too little source material (Pokédex) is shown, but info that is canon in only one media (the anime) is ever-present. It needs to be explicitly stated when info comes from anything other than the games. I chose to bug you about this since you seem the most active with this new little project. Thank you for giving attention to this. --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|IWanna]]BeThe[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|VeryBest]] 14:04, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
:The goal with the biology rewrite is to form cohesive, flowing paragraphs that are a culmination of all the biological information that we know and can confirm. Placement of the information should be based on the information itself, not its source. For example, if the anime reveals a special ability, that information should go in a paragraph about special abilities. If this means putting something from the anime in a paragraph mainly consisting of game data, then that's fine. When we say it needs to be clear where the information comes from, we are referring to the reference links. These links are used to confirm the validity of the statement, not to divide canons.

:As for how many paragraphs and on what topic each Pokemon gets, that's going to depend entirely on the Pokemon. Some Pokemon have a lot of available information, whereas as others do not. In ''general'', each Pokemon should have a paragraph on anatomy and/or physiology and a paragraph on abilities or other available data. However, some Pokemon have very little information and both of these topics can be combined into a single paragraph. Others will require more paragraphs covering other topics because we know more about them. It has to be done on a case by case basis.

:Bulbasaur in particular has been looked over by a number of staff members, and it has been agreed that it is fine the way it is written now. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 00:47, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

== Meowstick ==

Why aren't we allowed to keep this redirect?--[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 17:49, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
:For one thing, we shouldn't encourage misspellings. If it had been misspelled in an official source, I'd say fine. But if the only place was a leak on fansite, I really don't think it's necessary at all. Yes, it's one letter off from the official spelling, I realize that. However, I don't see it being a common mistake. If it becomes an issue, we can discuss adding it back at a later date. But for now, I see no real reason to keep it other than to encourage misspellings. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 17:53, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
::That's an alarmingly {{wp|Linguistic prescription|prescriptivist}} reasoning, don't you think? People who are going to misspell it are going to do so whether or not we have a redirect; not having one just means it'll be harder for them to find the page they want. Isn't that completely contrary to the point of being a ''community'' encyclopedia? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:56, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
:::When, before it was deleted, he discussed that with me, I said the same thing. But then he gave me examples of the same stuff and said the list went on. And more things. [[User talk:TheOriginalOne#Meowstick redirect|Here's the conversation as a reference]] [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''オリ''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''ジ''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''ナル''']] TheOriginalOne 17:58, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
::::I am well aware of the discussion that have been going on. And Pumpkinking, yes, people will misspell it regardless. However, we cannot account for every possible misspelling and this one has not proven itself common yet. If we have the redirect, it shows up as a suggestion on the search bar and that will certainly encourage it as a common misspelling. I'd rather wait and see if it becomes a common misspelling without our help. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 18:24, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
:::::For the record, "encouraging misspellings" only counts when the redirect has "(Pokémon)" attached to it; that's not what's allowed. Several pokémon have misspelled redirects because, in moderation, they do no harm unless they're linked to without the {{template|p}}. Meowstick has been in circulation as the name of a pokémon since May (6,760 Google results), but since this a fan name and ''not'' a common misspelling (unlike Ninetails and Ratata, which people still get iffy over even years after their release), it falls under the rules of "Smugleaf": not unless an official publication used it. (Zoroaaku falls under alternate katakana reading.) [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 18:43, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

== Dwebble/Dig ==
Very sorry new to this. Did Dwebble not use dig because it burrowed into the ground in a very similar manner to how passage does. Furthermore he does it like the three wild Dwebble he fought in the episode and they are considered to be using Dig {{unsigned|Rahl}}
:This is something you should bring up on [[Talk:Cilan's Crustle|the article's talkpage]]. However, I can tell you that we do not typically count something as a move unless it is explicitly stated to be so. Dwebble is perfectly capable of digging without using the move itself. Also, please sign talk page comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. Thanks! [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 17:59, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

== Biology project ==

Hello, I am Blazingfist and I've been asked to help during the lockdown with anything pertaining to XY's release. However, I've also been told by Kogoro that I could be helpful in the Biology project you've set up. I would gladly like to help. Is there, at this moment, anything particular I can do pertaining to the Biology project? If so, I would gladly like to hear it. I am sorry by the way if this isn't the correct way to contact you about this. ☼ Blazing[[User talk:Blazingfist|Fist ☼]] 21:39, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
:This is a fine way to contact me. The project's main focus right now is switching the biology sections over to the new format, as detailed in the most recent "Message from the Editor" on the front page. More detailed instructions on how to do that can be found [[User:Crystal_Talian/Biology_Project|here]] and a list of progress can be found [[User_talk:Crystal_Talian/Biology_Progress|here]] (the "revised" column is for those that have been switched to the new format, while the "checked" column is for ones staff has done gone over and approved). Anything you can do to help with the format switch would be great, and feel free to ask any other questions you may have. Thanks! [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 23:26, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

== "More than one is not notable" ==

... Last time I checked, it was. Before T-tar gained a weakness we had trivia on the pages of all Grass/Psychic and Ice/Grass Pokémon stating they were part of a small group of Pokémon with seven weaknesses, which even today is the most weaknesses any Pokémon can have. Clawitzer and Lucario are the only two Pokémon capable of learning all the pulse/wave/whatever moves, so it's more exclusive than the seven weaknesses club and therefore notable. --[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 13:03, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
:Those were removed under the same rule that means the pulse moves should be removed. Just because something wrong existed once doesn't mean it's OK and can be used as precedent; it just means either nobody noticed it or nobody bothered to take the time to fix it. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 14:49, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
:: I'd say only two Pokémon out of 718 is notable. --[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 15:32, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
:Could you please tell me whether or not the Trivia I've been removing from {{p|Charizard}}'s article is notable or not? It falls under the same clause as the Clawitzer and Lucario trivia removed yesterday. --[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 18:01, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
::I feel that they're fundamentally different: the Clawitzer and Lucario trivia are trying to say "these two are unlike all other Pokemon", which is unnotable because they are not unlike ''all'' other Pokemon, since they are like each other. The species names trivia are saying "these Pokemon have this in common", which is different from "these Pokemon are unlike others". In any case, if the species name trivia is ruled unnotable, be aware that there are dozens (perhaps over a hundred?) pages that you're gonna need to remove it from, since it's already on all Pokemon articles that have species names in common with other Pokemon. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:58, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
:::Just my two cents after reviewing the pieces in question, I believe they're both notable pieces of trivia. If a species shares a species name with other Pokémon, then it's okay if that has more than one, because it's still a unique trait that only a small selection of Pokémon share. As for the base stat trivia, it mentions how it's a similarity between the two Pokémon families, but it doesn't contradict the statement of the trivia point. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 20:43, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
::::I'm going to respectively ask that others not give opinions on questions directed at me, please. A while ago when staff discussed trivia, it as largely agreed that trivia such as that regarding the Lucario/Clawitzer example is ''unnotable''. Shared species trivia was considered notable. This is based entirely on previous discussions and a reviewing may be necessary, but for now the previous discussion is what the pages should reflect. Thanks. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 22:09, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

==Pokemon Y: My Christmas==
I'm going to have 3DS and Pokemon Y Version, but my mother said only christmas time. [[User:Samueljoo|Samueljoo]] ([[User talk:Samueljoo|talk]]) 11:45, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

== Vivillon Gallery ==

Yeah, I thought as much, but was only following the suggestion of [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]. You can check our conversation on his talk page. Btw, I'm open for suggestions. --[[User:Sekuiya|Sekuiya]][[User talk:Sekuiya|talk]] 03:59, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

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== Typebattle template title "Resist" is mathematically inaccurate with current values. ==

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Template:Typebattle

Saying resist is mathematically incorrect if you keep the numbers as multiplication values.

Its valid for the 1/2x part since when you resist half the damage you take the other half.

However you are not resisting 2x the damage. That would be the same as resisting 200% of the attack. Resisting 100% or more would result in taking no damage at all. Resisting 0% would mean that you are resisting no damage and therefore taking 100% of the initial amount.

If you want to stick with the values being multipliers to the original attack i would recommend you to use another word like multiplyer, power or effectiveness.

The protected source is here : http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Typebattle&action=edit

[[User:DavidGuld|DavidGuld]] 15:01, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
:You're right, resist is wrong there. I changed it to power so it matched the other half of the template. Thanks for pointing it out. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:06, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

== If you're not busy ==

Is it okay to use the HP bar on my talk page? [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 22:04, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
:Sure. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:55, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
::I'm going to create one on my own page. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 23:05, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

== Here ==

[[Team Aqua|Here]] and [[James|here]]. One says Pokémon Yellow, while another says In Ruby or In Sapphire, etc. Which would be the most correct?--[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 12:46, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
:Thing is, James has only appeared in Pokémon Yellow, where as Team Aqua has appeared in Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald. So in this case, it's fine the way it is.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:52, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
::No, I meant as a general thing. Not specifically referring to these articles.--[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 12:56, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
:::Also [[A.J.|here]], there 3 examples.--[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 13:48, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
::::As I said when you last brought it up: "I'd say they don't all need to be the same. It depends more on the layout and phrasing of the sections." [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:57, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::I know what you said. That's why I ask how exactly it depends and I thought I should give you some examples.--[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 21:58, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::Would you mind if we leave this until after B2W2? I'm kinda busy with that and non-Bulba stuff just at the moment, so I don't really have time to look into everything properly and therefore give a quality answer. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 00:03, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Sure, why not. Just tell me when to remind you of it.--[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 11:42, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

== possible multiple accounts ==

{{u|DerangedChillen}} and {{u|DementedChillen}} look like they could be the same user. [[User:G50|''G'']][[User talk:G50|''50'']] 09:41, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
:Yep, you're right. Thanks for letting me know. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 10:05, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
::You're Welcome. [[User:G50|''G'']][[User talk:G50|''50'']] 10:05, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

== BW parameter ==

I changed it to the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ice_Burn_%28move%29&curid=117721&diff=1708520&oldid=1708519 GenV parameter] because when I previewed it with the BW one, it gave me a tiny dot for no reason. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 22:49, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
:Clear your cache. The parameter was just added to the template, looks like you were still getting a cached version. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:56, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

== Entries ==

You probably can't translate them, but maybe you can write them? It took me few minutes just to get characters of location's Japanese name >_> ...so these will take much longer, especially as there is [http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg507/scaled.php?server=507&filename=bpkmnwh21014177.png&res=landing three] - Sewaddle, Mareep and Flaaffy. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 07:25, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
:Not a clue, sorry. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 07:30, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
::I do not ask to translate them, just to write them down to articles, as it is too much of pain for me. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 07:50, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
:::Yeah. I don't know how to type them either. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 07:53, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

== WarlordInfoBox Template ==

With Oichi and Nobunga being brother and sister in the Pokémon Conquest game, would it be possible to have relatives added to the template? [[User:G50|''G'']][[User talk:G50|''50'']] 05:27, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
:I was unsure whether to add that or leave it for the body. I've added it to the template, but it'll only show up if the "Relatives" parameter is set. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 05:40, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
okay [[User:G50|''G'']][[User talk:G50|''50'']] 05:42, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

== Conquest moves ==

Can Conquest be added to (not sure of the name) template to be able to add a move description to the Pokémon pages? [[User:G50|''G'']][[User talk:G50|''50'']] 04:09, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
:[[Template:Movedescentry]]? If so, done. Set the first parameter to "Conquest". [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:46, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
::Is it also possible for you to make it so I can add Conquest next to BW? A lot of the moves have the same description as the BW ones. --[[User:Funktastic~!|It's Funktastic~!]] ([[User talk:Funktastic~!|talk]]) 05:10, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
:::BWConquest. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 05:17, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
::::I have found out that that different Pokémon of the same species can have different moves (Zebstrika is all I know so far) when they are linked. Can ConquestMove be changed to ConquestMove1 and ConquestMove2 so the 2nd move can be added? [[User:G50|''G'']][[User talk:G50|''50'']] 02:55, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::Looking at the template, It's possible to add multiple moves to the cell using the one parameter, so just do that for now. If it's very common, we may want to change the layout, so if you notice any more can you let me know? Thanks. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:41, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
::::::Okay [[User:G50|''G'']][[User talk:G50|''50'']] 03:44, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

== Dispute ==

Jo The Marten And I Are Having An Argument. Are People Allowed To Put Pokemon Templates On Mystery Dungeon Pages? [[User:Badjb10|Badjb10]] ([[User talk:Badjb10|talk]]) 02:00, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
:Pokemon templates should only be used like that where there is something special about the Pokemon (Abnormal ability, abnormal moveset, etc.). There is absolutely nothing different between that Drowzee and any other wild level 12 Drowzee. It is therefore unnecessary to provide that extra information. The entry in the list is enough. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:23, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

In That Case, What Is The Point Of The Templates On [[Amp Plains tribes]], The Pokemon On The Templates There Are No Different Then Any Other Of Their Species And Level. [[User:Badjb10|Badjb10]] ([[User talk:Badjb10|talk]]) 04:54, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
:Because that's not a location article. It doesn't have a list. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 05:00, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

It Shouldn't Matter That It's A Location Page. The Point Of Pages Like That Are To Make It Easy For Players To Gather Information From. [[User:Badjb10|Badjb10]] ([[User talk:Badjb10|talk]]) 05:21, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
:.[[Drowzee (Explorers of Time, Darkness, and Sky)]] That page is about Drowzee. As such, it has the full description, including the template. [[Mt. Bristle]] is about the location, and as such has to provide information on many Pokemon. Thus the information given on each is less so that the page is not bogged down with information which is, quite frankly, unnecessary. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 05:29, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, It Was A Common Mistake That I Made, Especially Since There Was No Link To [[Drowzee (Explorers of Time, Darkness, and Sky)]] On [[Mt. Bristle]]. {{unsigned|Badjb10}}

== Impossible ==

This user has behaved in an intimidating and harassing way. Please perform the appropriate action for him/her.--[[User:Muk-a-matic|Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round...]] ([[User talk:Muk-a-matic|talk]]) 23:44, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
:This has been handled. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:44, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

== Re:Templates ==

no problem, i'll stop.[[User:Purrloin!|Purrloin]][[User talk:Purrloin!|!]] [[Purrloin|Meow!!!]] 22:23, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

==Template:User Want==
Hey, I see you were the last one to edit the {{template|User Want}} template. Since that page is protected, could you please add B2W2 to the code? [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''The''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''Original''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''One''']] 11:42, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
:Done. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:38, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
I don't know if you noticed it... there's a problem with the B2 part: there's not enought contrast between the letters and the background. I could hardly see the letters when I tested it. [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''The''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''Original''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''One''']] 20:16, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
:Sorry, I missed adding it to one part. is that better? [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:12, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
What have you done? I haven't noticed any change. The contrast is the same. Just change the background to black, please. [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''The''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''Original''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''One''']] 16:54, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
:Ah, I missed another one. Sorry about that, it's fixed properly now. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:50, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
It's fixed now ty very much! [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''The''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''Original''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''One''']] 20:19, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

==Protection==
Hey, could you please protect this usertag: <nowiki>{{User:TheOriginalOne/User un}}</nowiki>? [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''The''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''Original''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''One''']] 16:06, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
:I won't, simply beacuse it's in your userspace, so you need to take care of it. You can't if it gets protected. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:38, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
Now, could you please protect <nowiki>{{Template|Unown}}</nowiki>? [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''The''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''Original''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''One''']] 19:10, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
:You need to get permission from an admin to create new templates. In this case, the template takes almost as long to type as the code it replaces, so it is not worth having as a template. I should note that a template at that exact name with that exact function was deleted in december 2010 for precisely that reason. Pay attention to the warnings that are displayed when you are editing a page - the wiki should have told you that it had been deleted before and given the deletion log to explain why it was deleted. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:40, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, I know that, I received the strike right after this new message (I tought that the permission rule was just for the usertags). They also told me that there was another one with precisely that function, {{template|uwr}}. About that, since that template is protected, could you please make non-capital letters valid for it?
:About the warning... the delete reason was not enought clear for me; I didn't understand why. [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''The''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''Original''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''One''']] 16:22, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

== Regarding a Recently Created Page ==

Hey. You seem to be the only staff member on at the moment, so I wanted to bring this to your attention. I'm not sure how to move it into {{u|Alexsummer}}'s userspace myself, and I don't want to mess anything up. Thanks! [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 03:04, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
:Moved. You just move the page, select "User" from the namespace dropdown and put their username at the start followed by a slash. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:28, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

==Youtubevid==
Hi, this problem has been bothering me since the very beggining of it... you know, that one with the youtubevid template, because it doesn't work since some months ago (yeah, when I try to preview with the old code, or even see an old version, the browser gives me an error). Now, I was wondering, do you know when it's going to be fixed, or have you even discovered what's the problem? [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''The''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''Original''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''One''']] 19:44, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
:A recent Mediawiki upgrade broke the addon. We're looking into a replacement. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:13, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
At least it's going to be recovered... but do you have any info about when is it going to happen? [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''The''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''Original''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''One''']] 16:29, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

==AG132 Trainer's Choice Error==
1. It is ''not'' an assumption. I have seen every single episode with a Trainer's Choice, and every single one that asked "Which would be most effective against..?" or "Which Pokémon has the advantage?", it ''always'' meant types. '''Always.'''
2. If it's "still an error," why, pray tell, did you delete it?
3. You should tell that to Dennou Zenshi. "Didn't I just remove it?" he/she says, as if he/she is infallible.
4. I go to Talk pages to discuss something questionable. This is not questionable. It's quite obvious that Kirlia is being mistaken for a Grass-type. You wanna talk about assumption? Ask Dennou why he/she thinks that this TC could ''possibly'' be about Arcanine's ''stats'' and ''learnset''. Really?! That is laughably baseless. --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|IWannaBeTheVeryBest]] ([[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|talk]]) 11:39, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
:It's not obvious at all that they mistook Kirlia for a Grass-type, since [[M06]] and [[AG109]] made it clear that Kirlia is a Psychic-type. On the other hand, it ''is'' obvious that the "legendary" Arcanine is better than Kirlia, who is weaker than many unevolved Pokémon. We can't assume that they made a mistake when there's a legitimate reason for their answer.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 12:12, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
::The anime is known to make errors in areas in which it has been correct before. Electric affects Ground, then it doesn't, then it does on Rhydon's horn, then it doesn't, then it does in Rhydon's mouth, then it doesn't, etc. If you still honestly believe that this TC subtly refers to stats, unlike every other TC of its kind, then go ahead and edit [[Trainer's Choice]]'s sections to pick ''your'' correct choice. There are many errors that end up being ties, with no Pokémon having an advantage over the stated one. Go ahead and compare every Pokémon's stats to every stated Pokémon's stats and see which is the "correct" one in every single erroneous TC. --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|IWannaBeTheVeryBest]] ([[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|talk]]) 15:30, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
::Go ahead and look at Ag053's error. Combusken is stated as having an advantage over Kirlia. Now why would the writers do that, hm? Combusken is a mid-stage Pokémon like Kirlia and is roughly as strong, stat-wise. Maybe... ''they think Kirlia's a Grass-type?!'' --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|IWannaBeTheVeryBest]] ([[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|talk]])
:::My apologies, I should have only removed half of the point. Unless we can actually confirm from someone at 4kids that Kirlia was mistaken for a grass type, that part is an assumption as should not go on the page. It should simply state that the answer is incorrect based on types. Nothing else. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:41, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
::::I still think that it's obvious, but fair enough. We include the error, exclude the assumption. --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|IWannaBeTheVeryBest]] ([[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|talk]]) 01:10, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::While previous advantage based Trainer's Choice questions were about type advantages, nothing specifically demands that the AG132 question followed suit. You're making the assumption, based only on the questions of previous episodes, that this question must be in error. If it's not concrete in either direction, we should not be noting something that may or may not be true. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 02:23, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

== Ransei facility template. ==

I've been putting together [[User:Chosen/RanseiFacility|a template for the kingdoms of Ransei]] that would list the Pokémon that appear in their various facilities. I almost have it completed, but there is a strange occurence that's causing the last check mark to appear elevated in a sort of way. Since you worked on the templates I based mine on, I was wondering if you had a solution? Thanks in advance. – [[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]] 21:57, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
:The line break after the final check mark is included in the cell. You need to put the noinclude (or in this case the opening comment tag) on the same line as the last check mark, then if you want line breaks they go inside that. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:21, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

== FRLG sprites ==

Just saying that there are 3 extra, one for each [[:a:File:Spr 3f Venusaur credits.png|final]] [[:a:File:Spr 3f Charizard credits.png|form]] [[:a:File:Spr 3f Blastoise credits.png|starter]] (credits-exclusive). You might wanna include it in the sprite template (later or now, that's your choice), if you're still working on it. And yes, the 2nd frame is supposed to be blink-and-you'll-miss-it. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 15:45, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

== Help meh? ==

Well, this is a bummer. I can't seem to edit my userpage, let alone start one. I think I made like 4-5 contrbutions to the wiki. What now?
★☆[[User:Togetic45|'''Toge''']][[User talk:Togetic45|'''tic''']][[Special:Contributions/Togetic45|'''45''']]☆★
:Keep editing the mainspace, you'll get to soon. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:51, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

== If bumps are prohibited... ==

...then how are abandoned discussions to be resolved? ''No one'' came to an agreement on the talk page. For over a month. Reverting edits to suppress the issue shouldn't even be allowed. [[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|BNK]][[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|Talk]] 05:36, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
:I have asked a few other staff members who weren't involved in the discussion to take a look at it and decide. And in future, the best thing to do is to either try and add something to the discussion or to ask a staff member directly. 'bumping' is generally an inefficient way of getting attention for something. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 06:08, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

== I asked Dennou Zenshi but… ==

MediaWiki:Disambiguationspage is causing Special:Disambiguations to not work, because none of those templates are linked. Can you fix it? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 18:36, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:I made a null edit to the mediawiki page, it should start working soon as the server cache clears. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:50, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
::It's not working… According to the Special:Disambiguations page, they need to be '''linked'''. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 03:23, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Added links. Also remeoved two that were deleted in 2008. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 05:04, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

== Archives Lockdown ==

I've got an image I've been trying to upload for the new Pokémon dolls for the [[Décor]] article, but the lockdown is still in effect on the archives, yet I see lots of daily updates by Jr Admins and above. When will the lockdown be rescinded? <sc>'''[[User:Pyrii|♪Pyrii♫]]''' [[User_talk:Pyrii|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pyrii|contrib]]</sc> 04:21, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
:How's fifteen minutes ago sound? Just be aware it may be closed again if the server can't cope with the extra load. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:49, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
::Sounds like music to my ears, thanks, now if only the image would show without me having to edit the page. Oh well, anything to increase my edit count XD <sc>'''[[User:Pyrii|♪Pyrii♫]]''' [[User_talk:Pyrii|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pyrii|contrib]]</sc> 12:48, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

== A question about my edit to Template:16TeamBracket ==

Hello, Werdnae. I made an update to the 16 Team Bracket template a bit ago for a few things. Mainly it was to make the tables be rounded per Bulbapedia style. While it looks good in concept and on most articles; I have seen a few pages where the template gets a bit streched out. Most of the stretching is limited to the [[2009 World Championships]] and the [[2010 World Championships]]. I wanted to know if it was alright or if my edit should be reverted for the moment. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 04:52, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
:It looks okay to me, but please be careful when editing templates. Especially at the moment when traffic is high due to B2W2, as editing even moderately used templates puts a big strain on the server. I'd prefer that you test it by making a test copy of the template in your userspace with the changes you want to make, before you edit the template. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 07:16, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
::Alright then. I think it will be better if I hold off on editing the other related templates. I will make sure to test it in the userspace next time as well. Thank you for checking. :) --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 18:22, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

== Translation templates? ==

Hi, let me ask you the following: are the Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis wikis close enought for [[Bulbapedia:Sandbox#Interwiki translation notice|this template]] to be valid, and so that you could authorize me to create it on the template mainspace? [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''The''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''Original''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''One''']] 19:54, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
:Where would it be used? Usually if they've got an article and we don't it's because we've decided that we either don't want the article, or don't want the article yet. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 23:04, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
::... and it's very rare for an article to be based on a wikipedia one: you could easily say that it's because you normaly don't want that article (yet), specialy when we're talking about a wiki that's too much general on those matters. So why does {{template|WikipediaBased}} exist, when there are certain wikis from our partnership that sometimes write something notable before Bulbapedia? [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''The''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''Original''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''One''']] 23:13, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
:::The WikipediaBased template is an overhang from when Bulbapedia was a wee infant with a userbase of a couple of hundred people. We're bigger than that now, and in general that template just shouldn't be used on any new articles.

:::In regards to other wikis having articles on "notable" stuff before we do, that's because each wiki has its own independent notability and rules system. In particular, we have a "Wait until it airs" rule for the anime and most, if not all, of our partners don't. We're a bigger, more active wiki and so we have higher standards that must be met before we start the articles. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 23:24, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

== Wp template: update to support (and strictly use) HTTPS ==

[[Template talk:Wp#HTTPS|See this]]. What do you think of the suggestion? I'm not sure if this discussion topic should be kept on your talk page or at the template's talk page, by the way. [[User:SatoMew2|Sato]][[User talk:SatoMew2|Mew]] 18:34, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

== Template ==

I just noticed that I forgot to add typen= function to the GlitchSpirteBox template. It will just display a Unknown color background if there is no type2=. I [[User:Rsrdaman/sandbox|tried]] to get it to work but no no avail. Any tips?--[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 19:42, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
:Inside parameters you ''can't'' use <nowiki>{{!}}</nowiki>. It must be a pipe, because the way that template hides the pipe from parser fuctions such as switches means it also hides them from templates and parameters. <nowiki>{{!}}</nowiki> should only be used to replace the pipes in table coding. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:57, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
::Ahh, ok... I finally got it to work now. Thanks again. --[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 09:03, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

== Random questions ==

# Are we allowed to edit other user's pages to remove a [[Special:WantedTemplates|nonexisting template]] or a [[Special:WantedPages|non-existing page]]?
## If not, are we allowed to alert the user?
# Would it be a good idea to implement the #ifexist: function into {{template|Red link}}?
Thank you for your time. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 18:23, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
:# Yes, provided that's all you do.
:#I don't think that's a good idea. Firstly because the template is extremely high use and any edit is likely to crash the wiki. Second, because it's okay for pages we actually want to be on the wanted pages list, so anything that's definitely going to get a page shouldn't use the template. Thirdly because ifexists are expensive functions and adding that to the template would significantly increase the load that each use of the template puts on the server. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 18:43, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
::[[Zinzolin]] and {{ga|Rosa}} link to Template:Textcolor. Should it exist, or is something wrong? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 18:47, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
:::It's the Pokemon templates. If only some of the moves are known or a Pokemon only knows 1-3 moves, the parameters for the remaining moves must be removed, not just blanked. If they're blank, the template sees that they're there, and so doesn't use the defaults. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:56, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

== Archives stuff ==

As I'm working on the Glitchdex, a common problem I come across in incorrectly named images, or duplicates. Currently there are a lot of them and what I've been doing (just putting up <nowiki> {{Delete}} or {{move}} templates</nowiki>) is taking a lot of time and just making the current admins workload more. I really hate to {{tt|ask|as I know asking for power anywhere is a no-no}}, but as I read on the [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Staff#Becoming_an_administrator Archives Staff] page, it said high-ups can bestow temporary admin power. So is there any way I can get that to move/delete all of these files?--[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 00:21, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
:Not currently. Due to the recent server move and game releases the Archives are actually a little unstable for the time being. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:22, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
::I've moved the images for you Rsrdaman. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 02:46, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

== Navigation templates ==

In many navigation templates, I see the " • ", but in others I see " | ". Should I change them to one way or another, or just let it be? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 01:58, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
:Just let it be. Different templates call for different things. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:32, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

== New Tournament infobox ==

How does [[User:Abcboy/sandbox/TournamentInfobox|this]] look? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 22:21, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
:Firsly, it needs to be roundy to match our style. I know you've based it on the game screen, but it still should be roundy because otherwise it looks out of place. Also because following the game design that strictly means that if it gets redesigned in future games, the template looks bad. They're 'inspired' by the game design, rather than emulating it.

:Secondly, the align tags need to be replaced. Content alignment (i.e. text and images) can be done with the "text-align" style (i.e. <code>style="text-align:left/right/center;"</code>), while table alignment can be done with the float style for left or right (i.e. <code>style="float:left/right;"</code>) or the margin style for centering (i.e. <code>style="margin:auto;"</code>). This is important because the align tags are deprecated and only currently working on a backwards-compatability setup which could stop working at any time.

:Other than those two minor things, nice work on the template. It's a nice code setup. Just don't be afraid to mess around with the styles from the game. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 23:00, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
::How does it look now? I just wrapped that splash of green around the top, removed several of the old dividers leaving only one, and made it roundier! It doesn't really conform to the Bulbapedia style, but I think it looks pretty good. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 00:44, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Much better. The code's good and the design's good. I'm going to need to discuss it with a few other staff and get back to you just for the content, because I don't know that much about the PWT. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:14, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
::::[[User:Abcboy/sandbox/NewBerry|This]] is something I want to do to the Berry pages, along with moving the growth template to the growth section. Doing this would extremely reduce the size of the infobox. I need a little bit of help on the Generation IV one though... --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 00:43, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

== Language support templates ==

I was looking at Wikipedia and they have some nice language support templates such as {{wp|Template:Nihongo}}, {{wp|Template:Korean}} and {{wp|Template:Zh}}. The Japanese one is particularly useful as it renders kanji properly. I was thinking on adding them to Bulbapedia but would like to know the staff's opinion on them. If they are accepted, I would ask Wikipedia for permission of usage of the templates here (please note that I do not have an account there) and try them out in my sandbox here first. What do you think? [[User:SatoMew2|Sato]][[User talk:SatoMew2|Mew]] 13:17, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
:If I'm not mistaken, we already use the same code that those templates use to display the characters. It's an html attribute, <code>lang="ja"</code> ("ja" is replaced with "ko" or "zh" for the latter two templates). The reason that ours may appear distorted is that, depending on where they are used, the characters are subsequently bolded and/or reduced in size. I have noticed that it becomes very difficult to read in templates where both are done. In short, I don't think we need the template as we (should) already use the relevant code that it contains. If there's somewhere the language code isn't used, it most certainly should be, and you're welcome to add it: <code><nowiki>Kanji goes here</nowiki></code> [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 18:35, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
::Okay, correction, it appears that we're certainly not using that code everywhere. I know for certain that some templates do. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 18:36, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Well, I don't like them solely for the proper rendering of kanji. It's also because the templates help to standardize the way the Japanese/Korean/Chinese names should appear on articles. They also have the parameters <code>lead=yes</code> and <code>lead=no</code>, which allows the reader to know which written non-English language is he/she reading, with that element being present in the first instance of the language ''only''. It also helps in situations when there's no English equivalent to the Japanese/Korean/Chinese name, allowing the text to appear differently ordered to accomodate the situation. [[User:SatoMew2|Sato]][[User talk:SatoMew2|Mew]] 19:45, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
::::I'm still not sure it's necessary. The usage of Japanese text is pretty much standardised already, with an identification. (i.e. the opening lines of the articles.) I can see where you're coming from, I just don't know if we need it, when things are hardcoded in a relatively (I would hope) similar manner. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:00, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::Well, I understand your point of view but please reconsider. It may be awkward at first but these specific templates help once we get used to them. At least, that's how I feel about them. [[User:SatoMew2|Sato]][[User talk:SatoMew2|Mew]] 14:27, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

== Infobox game update ==

I've tweaked and added some parameters to it as per feedback on the template's talk page as well as from my own ideas. Check the modified template [[User:SatoMew2/GameInfoboxTweaks|here]] and some tests with it [[User talk:SatoMew2/GameInfoboxTweaks|here]]. Basically, I did the following:
* Changed ''info'' in '''Basic info''' to ''information'' to be more professional and encyclopedic;
* Changed OFLC to ACB in the '''Ratings''' since the ratings were of the ACB, which was previously called OFLC, and also due to there being confusion over the independent OFLC from New Zealand. Furthermore, the OFLC from New Zealand is irrelevant as the Pokémon games released there are under control of Nintendo of Australia, the subsidiary of Nintendo for both Australia and New Zealand. Thus, the ratings for the games in these two countries are as per the ACB;
* Added the parameter for the OSK rating, which is the German rating system and is applicable to the Pokémon games;
* Added parameters to include the translations of Japanese names under the Japanese name, in smaller text (same size as Japanese text);
* Added other essential parameters about the games;
* Renamed various parameters, rendering the previous names obsolete and current usage of the template broken;
* Added "N/A" as fallback text for everything, for the sake of simplicity, consistency and to avoid showing the parameters themselves if there is a need to fallback to them.
Either way, wherever the template is used, those applications of it have to be updated. Still, what do you think? I believe it makes the template more accurate and complete now. [[User:SatoMew2|Sato]][[User talk:SatoMew2|Mew]] 20:52, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
:Looks good to me. I don't suppose you'd be able to replace the align tags as described a couple of sections up? [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:00, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
::I've replaced the <code>align</code> tags as you suggested, since they are deprecated. I have also changed the template's default colors to match Bulbapedia (damn, that black and white sure were not that good-looking) and streamlined the code, with suggestions and help from Abcboy ([[User talk:SatoMew2#Your game infobox|see here]]).
:::Thanks, nice work. I pulled out a few of them that were carried over redundant tags from the old template (and a few due to minor changes in what the tags cover) and then put it into use. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:07, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
::::I'm glad you liked it. But please protect the template page! I'm sure it was an oversight. [[User:SatoMew2|Sato]][[User talk:SatoMew2|Mew]] 20:44, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

== Sorry for the bother ==

Who do we talk to these days about checking new user IP's? Since I haven't been around much lately, I'm not sure which admin usually does what now. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 15:58, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
:Anyone at {{bp|Staff|Admin level}} or above can check IPs. There's not really one designated person who does it. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 16:46, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
::Hmm. Okay. I noticed a pattern in a lot of new usernames from the past few days, and as I'm going down the list, I've found about 70 from the past 8 days... didn't realize it went on this far. Names like AldocrjkpohdhrArvidson, DelmarlkcbffxubiDess, AdriansseedyjwjnRosander, YasukokehplwkzlmCurren, etc. It might not be worth trying to go through and block all of the names if there end up being a couple hundred of them, but I felt it needed to be brought up if it wasn't already known. It looks like most of them are getting ignored by people welcoming users, so I'm not the only one who's noticed. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:39, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
:::And now that I'm looking around a lot more, I see that other people have already mentioned it to a couple of you. Whoops. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:45, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
::::Looking at the names, they're almost certainly spambots. Fortunately, most spambots try to create pages or userpages, and so are foiled by our autoconfirm requirements. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:07, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

== LevelV template. ==

Could you do that for other generations? Because movesets liked to change also in other generations. Some, like {{p|Mewtwo}}'s or {{p|Medicham}}'s could use that for Generation III. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 10:31, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
:I believe they already drafted somewhere, it's just a matter of getting them cleared by everyone and implementing them, and since I haven't had time I haven't pushed the matter. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 10:48, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
::[[User:Werdnae/Sandbox/Learnlist/levelIV|Here's my initial draft]] from a while back. I haven't had the time to complete it. If I'm remembering correctly, I also came across something that was going to be an issue for that template, but I don't recall exactly what that was. I know there were several possible solutions, and I think Kogoro built another prototype. Long story short, we're working on it, but it has come across a few issues, along with not being a priority. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:35, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
:::I felt liked doing it. I borrowed your template, copied onto userpage the header from mainspace and modified it, and [[User talk:Marked +-+-+/Learnlist templates|this is result]] (well, obviously that "Header." text will be removed). [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 14:39, 22 November 2012 (UTC) PS. And.... done, I think. You might want to check the templates if there is something to correct (still not sure if use RGB and Y or RB and Y in Generation I template), though. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 13:02, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

== Wiki code ==

You seem to be the correct person to ask...

On anime pokemon move templates such as this:


* Poison Gas was used in the [[dub]] only. In the original Japanese version, Ash just said Muk's name, ''Betbeton''.

I tried to to take the note at the bottom and put it into the actual template, using tt|*| next to Poison Gas, in order to make it look neater howevr it comes out like this



is their anyway the template can be changed so that we can put the tt|*| inside it? [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 16:26, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
:Adding a tooltip onto a parameter which autolinks will ''never'' work like that, because it's inside the link. The template needs the notes to be in parameter 4, which is alternate text and so can handle the tooltip template.

:Also, if a proposed usage of a template is broken, please don't save it as-is. Saving a broken template usage is likely to create other problems. Instead, put it inside comment tags, and people that want to see the problem can remove them and preview. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 09:14, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

== Magnagate ==

What do you think of [[User talk:Abcboy/sandbox/MagnagateItemlistEntry|this]]? I can't really think of a way to compress it further. Also, congrats on your promotion. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 03:00, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
:Thanks. And I'd suggest adding a column to the template for floors. I'd imagine that, especially in the larger dungeons, the available items might change depending on how far into them you are. I know that's the case for the other MD games. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:26, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
::I've added the needed parameter. Perhaps the template could be used on '''all dungeons''' instead of just Magnagate ones. Also, your page needs a bit of updating and protection. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 02:10, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
:::I'd prefer the floor parameter to display all the time. Otherwise it's unclear whether it is on all the floors or we just don't know the floors. The second line of the footer is a bit of a cop-out in that regard - either we know, or we don't. "seems" doesn't fit. Agreed that it would be on all the dungeons. I also think that we'd be better off including Poke in a row of the table, rather than a footnote. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 00:54, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
::::Does [https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pokedex-for-ios/id573135437?mt=8 Pokédex for iOS] deserve an article? It's been out for a month in Japan, and was recently released in the US and Europe. No idea about Australia and New Zaeland though. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 05:05, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::As an official app, I would say yes. Also, as you may have noticed, I moved that template. Nice work on it, it's simple but effective. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:37, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

== Because ==

You've deserved this. A sincere congratulations to you, my fellow Kiwi. If you need a hand with anything, let me know. I've got some spare time these days. (Except for the rest of this week coz I'm going to Wellington. You should totally skip town and come join me. It'll be ''rad''.) —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:36, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
:Thanks trom. Have fun in Wellywood. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 00:54, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

== Congrats, my friend! ==

Well, since I can't see a section on here for this, I figured I would be the one to officially start one. Congratulations on the well-deserved and well-earned promotion to EiC. As one of the people on here who knew you way back when you were a Jr. Admin., I can say that I can't think of anyone else who has put as much hard work into the 'pedia, or who I would rather have in the job. You have been a kind and helpful mentor to many people on here (including me), so I just wanted to say thank you for that. Your leadership skills and dedication are what have brought you thus far, and I look forward to seeing how the 'pedia prospers under your guidance. Although I do not get the chance to edit as much as I would like to nowadays (business and responsibilities IRL), know that I have always been, and will always be, your friend. Should you need anything, you have but to ask. --[[User:Jediknightdtv|ジェダイナイト]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|ディーティーブイ]] 19:45, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
:Thanks [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 00:54, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

== Conquest ==

Could you add more information to the page [[Pokémon Conquest]] and related articles, please. Also, there isn't much information on Pokémon pages about the kingdoms where you can find them and I've seen a few pages conflict with one another. In the [[Sneasel]] page, it says Sneasel can be found in [[Nixtorm]], but in the Nixtorm page, Sneasel isn't mentioned at all. {{unsigned|Plusleminun311312}}
:Bulbapedia is a wiki, information is added by many of our users, not just staff. I don't have the info you're looking for in order to add it. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:05, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

== Image thing ==

Hey Werdnae, sorry to bother you but this is bugging me, long story short whenever I try to view or use [[a:File:PMBW01.png]] on an article (such as [[PMBW01]]), it shows a different image that used to be at that name, but was moved. I tried in different browsers, different computers, I tried clearing the cache, it's still messed up. Can you figure out why it's broken for me :( thanks!!! (hope you understand what I mean and I don't look silly XD) [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 22:37, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
:It looks like it's okay to me. I'm guesing that it just took a little time until the CDN synced the images. It usually happens quickly, but depending on load may take closer to 24 hours. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]]
::That is so weird. Here's how it looks to me: [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/zeldascousin/Untitled-2.jpg] [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:02, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
:::It's the same for me, seems the CDN didn't properly update for all regions. It will be fixed soon. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 05:09, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
::::Ah, a regional thing. IIRC that has happened once or twice before, where updates on one or more servers are delayed relative to the others. Thanks for taking care of it Kogsie. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:05, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::Okay, cool. Thank you both :) [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 02:22, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::Just so y'all know, it's fixed for me :D [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 02:55, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

== B2W2 autoconfirmed protection ==

It's been several months since B2W2 came out, and several B2W2 articles ([[Strange House‎]], [[Relic Passage‎]], [[Clay Tunnel]]‎, [[Cave of Being]], and [[Pledge Grove]]) are still protected from non-autoconfirmed users. Several B2W2 redirects ([[Banjirou‎]], [[Heart Cave‎]], [[Relic Path]], [[Stranger House]]‎, [[Clay Road‎]], and [[Oath Woods‎]]) are also still protected from non-autoconfirmed users. Were they forgotten? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 02:35, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
:Looks like it. I'd assumed that all the B2W2 protections were set to expire shortly after release, but looks like a few were set to infinite length by mistake. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:05, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

==King of Almia page==

Is there anybody on Project Sidegames who is watching the "King of Almia and the Three Princes" page? There are about three unanswered questions on the talk page. [[User:Aggron989|Aggron989]] ([[User talk:Aggron989|talk]]) 23:35, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

== New Idea ==

Hey, I was wondering if I could talk to you about adding a relationship section to the prominent characters of the series. --[[User:Firered16|Firered16]] ([[User talk:Firered16|talk]]) 04:23, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
:Werdnae's away at the moment, but he gave me permission to respond to you in his stead. We feel relationship sections are not needed on character articles, as more than likely it will only lead to problems because of [[Shipping]]. Also, relatives are already mentioned in the infobox on articles. If you'd like to go in-depth about interactions between characters, then your attention is better suited for the shipping articles. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 04:54, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
That wasn't what I meant. What I'm trying to suggest is adding short summaries of some of the characters interactions, and for the shippings we'd just leave a link. It'd probably be easier if I showed you an example, so with your permission can I do it on Iris or Trip? --[[User:Firered16|Firered16]] ([[User talk:Firered16|talk]]) 15:30, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
:That kind of information should be worked into the "Character" section, as their interactions with other people are a significant part of their character. It shouldn't need to go overly specific, just their general behaviour towards other people and anything markedly different. Looking at Trip's page, it appears this is already the case: specifically the second and fourth paragraphs of the Character section. Shippings should not be included there unless they are specifically stated in canon. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 18:04, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
Your kinda misinterpreting what I'm trying to say. I'm referring to interactions that don't have any shippings, like with Iris and Cynthia or Georgia and Burgundy. I'll show you what I mean if you let me try it for Iris. --[[User:Firered16|Firered16]] ([[User talk:Firered16|talk]]) 19:56, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
:I know what you're meaning. What I'm saying is I don't want a list. The behaviour that is underlying the interactions should be included in the character section without the need to list. Important events should be included in the history section. We have existing places to put that information. We don't need to duplicate it. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 17:51, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
"Sighs" fine, then how about a battle record for the site then? You know, somethings similar to what's on the full battle page? --[[User:Firered16|Firered16]] ([[User talk:Firered16|talk]]) 06:59, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
==Thankyou==
Thanks for you suggestion Werdane on Crystal's talkpage. I will check the spam folder.[[User:Minor Notes|Minor Notes]] ([[User talk:Minor Notes|talk]]) 23:37, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

== Remember me? ==

Yes, it is I, your biggest fan, and I'm back. I always knew you would make the job, and good job.
I love this place, and hope to be a help.

Cam ♣♣ ''[[User:Focus58|Ƒǿҫὑṩ]] [[User talk:Focus58|❺❽]]'' ♣♣ 13:22, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

== Random question ==

Hi Werdnae :) sorry to bother you with this, but {{u|Umeko}} never writes me back so I thought it was best to come to you. I was wondering if you think [[User:Zesty Cactus/Misty's Song (single)|this article]], which I've worked on in my user space, was worth it for a mainspace article. My explanation is in the user message on the article. I'd appreciate your feedback. (I'm scared to just make the decision myself since I feel I don't have that much authority over Music, since while I do contribute to the project, idk, I feel like it's not my place XD) thanks again :) [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 17:38, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
:Music articles aren't my expertise, but would it be plausible to make it a proper section on the existing page? Neither of them really have that much info, so they might be better together? You've got more experience with those articles, so I'll trust your judgement on it, whatever you decide is better. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 05:26, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

== Disambig pages ==

What is the rule for disambiguation pages? I know that Pokémon receive them. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 05:59, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
:Pokémon get disabmigs at X (Disambiguation) because there's already a lot of stuff to fit at the top of their page and the species names redirect there. Otherwise, it's just whether one is significantly more important than the other (Also, English names always trump Japanese names) or they're equal importance. If there's numerous things, then it might get a disambig, if there's just a few and the 'main' article is small then a note at the top is easier. There's no real hard and fast rule, it's more of a 'is this working?' and 'what are people more likely to be looking for?'. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 06:11, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

== Userspace Editing ==

I know I must seem like quite a newbie posting this, but, I just don't understand this. I swear,I edited my Userspace twice yesterday, and twice today, I'm confused.

[[User:PokefanR|PokefanR]] ([[User talk:PokefanR|talk]]) 04:37, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
:We use the wiki's UTC clock to check the days, and there are five edits in one day [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:PokefanR&action=history here]. Make sure that you're clicking preview and not save when you want to check your page, and edit the whole page at once with the edit tab at the very top, rather than editing each section one at a time - every time you click the save button counts as an edit, rather than every set of changes you want to make. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 06:22, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

== Percentages ==

First of all, sorry if I'm talking to the wrong person, as far as the Bulbapedia hierarchy goes you seem pretty high so I thought I'd start here...
Basically I wanted to do a small information design project about pokemon types but discovered that the breakdown the types into percentages adds up to about 146%. Is there incorrect information or am I being a complete dope?

thanks

Edit: I was forgetting, cheers man. I'm off to buy a brain.

[[User:Matthauke|Matthauke]] ([[User talk:Matthauke|talk]]) 22:03, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

[[User:Matthauke|Matthauke]] ([[User talk:Matthauke|talk]]) 00:25, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
:I'm guessing that you're forgetting about dual-typed Pokémon. Because of them, the "This percent of Pokémon are XXX type" will always add to more than 100, because you're counting some twice. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 07:24, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

== Userspace permission ==

Small non-urgent question. I haven't been able to edit my userspace for years now it would seem, except I have been able to in the past. I don't remember any notification that my rights were removed (and I only edited it once a day, not to mention that was years ago). Can I know why I don't have the right and possibly how to fix that? Is it just a certain number of mainspace edits we need now? I'm mostly concerned about fixing way outdated information such as age. Thank you!

update: Seems to be resolved now. [[User:Ratikate|Ratikate]] ([[User talk:Ratikate|talk]]) 15:29, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

== My small update batch to Infobox game ==

Why was it reverted and when will it be readded? [[User:SatoMew2|Sato]][[User talk:SatoMew2|Mew]] 22:55, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
:It was reverted because I screwed up. I should have done a few things that I didn't, and in hindsight didn't read what you were telling me either. The most urgent issue was that the parameters were changed, which is generally a bad idea as it breaks the pages until they can be fixed. There were a few other things that some people weren't sure about, so I'll need to talk to other staff about it some more. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:19, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

== [[User talk:Marked +-+-+/Learnlist templates]] ==

You{{tt|*|Because you created the one I am basing it upon}} (or someone else... except Snorlax since he seems busy or something) may want to do something with this (because I have no idea what to do with it now, minus fixing any errors and incompatibilities with what we have, that could sneak in) [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 11:45, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
:I'll look into it. Thanks for making the rest of them. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:19, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

== New page ==

I noticed that there is more information about [[Liberate the Tower!]] than Operation Brighton from [[Pokémon Ranger:Shadows of Almia]] on Bulbapedia. This doesn't seem right to me. Is it important enough that I can create an article about it? It's a kind of obscure subject, so I thought I should ask somebody on Project Sidegames first. [[User:Aggron989|''AGG'']][[User talk:Aggron989|''RON'']][[Special:Contributions/Aggron989|''989'']] 19:15, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
:Ranger Net missions get sections because they aren't part of the core game. Information on Operation Brighton goes in the plot section of the SoA article. The ranger net plot can't go there because it's separate, so it gets a section elsewhere. It might look like there's more info on Liberate the Tower than on Operation Brighton, but that's just because it's separate from the rest. There's actually a lot more info on Operation Brighton (the majority of the final paragraph of the plot section) than Liberate the tower (one sentence in its own section). The rest is just about the Darkrai once it gets to the main series games. The information on Operation Brighton is better suited to the plot section of the game page than its own article. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:47, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

== Project Picture ==
Hi Werdnae,
Can I please make a project that make good quality images and put them on pages? I noticed that there are a lot of old images or low resolution images that needs to be replaced. Thanks! [[User:Agent5514|Agent5514]] ([[User talk:Agent5514|talk]]) 02:36, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
:That is what the [[a:Main Page|Archives]] are. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:57, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

==Taking in game pictures==
Hi again Werdnae, how do you take a picture of a bird's eye view of a Pokemon route or a Pokemon city like the ones used on Bulbapedia? Thanks. [[User:Agent5514|Agent5514]] ([[User talk:Agent5514|talk]]) 08:44, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
:# Don't delete comments from talk pages.
:# If I knew that, don't you think I'd have already ''done'' that for the ones we don't have?. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 09:33, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

== How would I go about ==

changing my username to Launchballer? It is the name I use everywhere else.--[[User:Tmwps|Tmwps]] ([[User talk:Tmwps|talk]]) 10:38, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
:You'll need to talk to {{u|Kogoro}} for that. It's a fairly involved process, and I don't really have the time for that at the moment. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:16, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

== Project Fandom Leader ==

[[User:$aturn¥oshi|$aturn¥oshi]] has been inactive for three years, yet he is still leader of [[Bulbapedia:Project Fandom|Project Fandom]]. Just wanted to point that out.--[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 03:20, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
:I'm aware. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:16, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

== How do you edit templates? ==

Hello Werdnae, how do you edit existing templates? I noticed that on the Hoenn League template, the battle sprites of Steven and Wallace, are from generation III, not from generation V, and it's best to use the latest sprites. And if you think that I shouldn't be doing this, on the Hoenn gym leaders template, Wallace overworld sprite from generation V used, and he entered the PWT as a champion, not as a gym leader. Also, on the Kanto gym leaders template, Koga's overworld sprite is from generation IV, while he is an elite four member at that time. So please tell me how to edit the Hoenn League template. Thanks! [[User:Agent5514|Agent5514]] ([[User talk:Agent5514|talk]]) 00:40, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
:Those should not be changed because there ''must'' be consistency within the table. for ''isolated images'' newer is generally (but not always) better, but in tables like that it looks terrible if they don't match. And the reason that you can't edit most templates is that they are protected. This is done because every edit made to them puts a very large load on the server.

:Please also use the preview button when you're editing so that you don't have to edit the same page so many times in a row. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:16, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

::Well, on the Kanto gym leader template Koga is the only person to have a generation IV overworld sprite, so should we change every other gym leader sprite in that template to generation IV for consistency within the table? [[User:Agent5514|Agent5514]] ([[User talk:Agent5514|talk]]) 01:30, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
:::In that case, Gen IV and Gen V sprites are similar enough that it's acceptable. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:20, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

== pokemon ==
Sorry........I didn't knew that it is illegally showed on that sites.
One more thing that I am quite new to Bulbapedia ,but I do a lots of mainspace edits I am asking that anybody sees the edits I am making regularly?--[[User:Viv|Viv]] ([[User talk:Viv|talk]]) 12:32, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
:First part, it's fine, we just have to be super strict about it. Second part, yes. All edits show up on the [[Special:RecentChanges|recent changes list]], and most staff (as well as some non-staff users) regularly watch that, so they'll see when you've made an edit. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:44, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

== This is bugging me... ==

It's regarding the "a" in the file links to avoid getting them in the wanted pages. One side wants me to use <nowiki>[[:a:File:</nowiki> instead of <nowiki>[[a:File:</nowiki>, and another side wants me to use <nowiki>[[a:File:</nowiki> instead of <nowiki>[[:a:File:</nowiki>. I am being told two different things that I was supposed to do which is getting nowhere. So which side is actually right? [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 23:28, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
:Both. <nowiki>[[:a:File: and [[a:File: both work properly, so it's up to the person writing the code for the link. The one to avoid is [[:File:</nowiki> which puts it on the wanted files list. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 09:25, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

== Picture for [[Feraligatr]] ==
Hello, Werdnae,

I have a Pokemon Silver Pokedex printer entry for [[Feraligatr]]. I don't know how to put it in there.

- Christopher Matias (NutwiisystemRocks) 17:10, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
:Uploads are done over on the [[a:Main Page|Archives]]. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 07:03, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! Christopher Matias (NutwiisystemRocks) 21:28, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

==New Project Idea==
I have an idea for a project that will help players build a team, or become successful with their current team. I already have some good strategies with Pokemon such as Espeon and Umbreon. I am messaging you to ask if the scope is broad enough for me to create this project. Thank you for your consideration.
([[User:Littleroot Leader Cam|Littleroot Leader Cam]] ([[User talk:Littleroot Leader Cam|talk]]) 18:25, 5 June 2013 (UTC))
:That's beyond the scope of Bulbapedia. Bulbapedia is an encyclopedia, reporting facts, not strategies. You are, however, welcome to share strategies in the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f518/ battle centre] over on the forums, which intended for strategy help. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 06:53, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

==Youtubevid template==
Hi. Today I was thinking about how weird it was to being still facing the problem with this template, after all these months. So, I decided to see if it still didn't work. And guess what: I viewed the source from the last edit done while it was still working - and it worked! I suggest you go check it out for yourself, and then, unless I commited a mistake, change it: it's over, I guess. [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''The''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''Original''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''One''']] 22:22, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
:I'd rather not, primarily because the old method has a security risk. I'm close to getting a replacement that isn't, I just need to do some more testing. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 06:35, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
::As an addition to that, the old template was responsible for a few loading problems, where it pushed even moderately sized pages over the limit and prevented them from loading. We're still hammering out the details, but the usage is going to have to be much more restricted than it was, and we're going to have to remove any uses deemed unnecessary before the template can be fixed. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 07:07, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

==LANDpedia==
Hi, I want to ask you another question: as you may know, our portuguese-speaking partner has been closed for a long time, even tough the rest of the page looks alright. What I want to ask you is if, as the EiC, you have any idea of the cause of this problem, and if you think this puts in cause the presence of LANDpedia in Encyclopediae Pokémonis. Thanks. [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''The''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''Original''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''One''']] 20:03, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
:I don't have any knowledge on why, other than what you've noticed already. That said, if a wiki 'falls over' as it were, it's most frequently due to a lack of input from the community. That's also why Bulbapedia doesn't actively start new wikis for EP - if the community support needed to survive is there, then they'll make it themselves. If there's not enough of a community to sustain it then no amount of forcing will make that happen. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 06:08, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
::Looks like the same has happened with [http://poketeca.com Pokéteca] (not even [http://pkstation.com the original fan site] works). Now the thing is (and the answer I was really seeking): do you think it's worth to keep defunct sites on EP? In case the answer is yes, then what do you think it should be done if another fast-growing wiki in Portuguese/Spanish appeared? [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''The''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''Original''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''One''']] 22:26, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
:::The inclusion (or exclusion) of a wiki from EP isn't up to me. On the 'Bulbagarden' opinion I have significant weight, but I would still need to discuss that with others before weighing in, and the ultimate decision rests with Archaic. In addition, while Bulbapedia is the oldest of the member wikis, and one of the founding members, we aren't the leader - the other members each get their say as well in any decision. I would guess that if it became a choice between a dead wiki and an active wiki of the same language, the old one would likely be replaced. I doubt we'll end up in that circumstance though, because as I mentioned earlier, they die because there's not enough of a userbase to sustain them, and as a result, not enough of a userbase to build and maintain a new one. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:52, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I knew you weren't totaly responsible for this. But what about the "in other languages" box? Should we keep the pt and es links? Or is this also Archaic's responsibility? [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''The''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''Original''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''One''']] 17:47, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
:::::As long as they're still EP members we should keep the links. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 09:49, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
::::::Well, forgive me for the Pokéteca thing: it didn't close, it was just a temporary measure. Just for you to know. [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''オリ''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''ジ''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''ナル''']] TheOriginalOne 18:10, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

==Something you didn't notice...==
Hi. I was seeing some template pages of the wiki related to the Main Page, and noticed that [[Template:Main Page/Featured content|this one]] had somehow got unprotected (I viewed the logs and noticed that it was protected in the past, tough without seeing any other change to its protection status). <s>If I wanted, I could have vandalized the Main Page in many fun ways.</s> Please protect it. [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''The''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''Original''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''One''']] 15:54, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
:Wow, nice spotting. Thanks for letting me know. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:06, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

== [[User talk:Marked +-+-+/Learnlist templates|Learnlist templates]] ==

Still sits in userspace (though I recently fixed a small derp). And the style we have for G1-G4 is... really, not too {{tt|practical|though Crystal has hardly any changes in movesets, that's why I gave like 4 examples}} (unlike G5 template). What left to do with that template? [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 08:08, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
:There's a couple of minor aesthetic tweaks I'd like to make, but they'll be a bit time consuming. I'll see if I have time, but it might need to wait until the weekend. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:25, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
::Okay. In meantime, I will go look who needs it. I once did that, but lost the list :/ [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 08:15, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
:::I forgot that there was still the header that needed adjustment, so it took me longer than expected. I've created [[Template:Learnlist/levelh/4]] for the header of the generation IV subpages, and moved the two Generation IV list templates to [[Template:Learnlist/levelIVj]] (where the change was introduced in the Johto games) and [[Template:Learnlist/levelIVs]] (where the change was introduced within Sinnoh, i.e. between DP and Pt). The earlier generation templates will need to wait a bit, they need a separate header and more extensive tweaking. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:37, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

== Sitenotice ==

Shouldn't that be 'confirmation' not 'conformation'?--[[User:Tmwps|Tmwps]] ([[User talk:Tmwps|talk]]) 00:42, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
:Ha! Yes, thanks for letting me know (also thanks to Kogsie for fixing it). Clearly I have been thinking too much about my chemistry, and didn't notice. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:18, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
::I also noticed something in the site notice. Shouldn't "IRC" be in all caps, being an acronym and all? Correct me if I'm wrong... '''—[[User:Bob Roberts|Bob]] [[User talk:Bob Roberts|Roberts]] [[Special:Contributions/Bob Roberts|III]]''' 02:13, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
:::Thanks for pointing that out, I'd copied that from an earlier revision. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 05:44, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

== Question ==

[[User talk:Brianne23E|This]] user appears to have created their talk page and put some sort of advertising on it. They must be brand new, because there's no sign of a welcome template being put on there. What should be done? [[User:Pokegen master|Pokegen master]] ([[User talk:Pokegen master|talk]]) 21:08, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
:Exactly what you did. That's a characteristic spambot action, so a staff member needs to take care of it. Thanks for mentioning it. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:46, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

== PokéInfobox ==

There are {{tt|few|read: five; Abra, Geodude, Machop, Omanyte and Kabuto as far as I know}} Generation I Pokémon whose exp yield was changed in G4, so technically they need three fields. (or the tt template?) 07:40, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
:Ugh, can't they just make up their mind? Thanks for mentioning it. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:52, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
::There's more... {{tt|And it's not only Generation 1.|Found on upokecenter.com then verified in-game}}
::Lv. 25 Kabutops (G3: {{tt|717|yield of 201}}; G4: {{tt|710|yield of 199}})
::Lv. 25 Dunsparce (G3: {{tt|267|yield of 75}}; G4: {{tt|446|yield of 125}})
::Lv. 25 Silcoon (G3: {{tt|253|yield of 71}}; G4: {{tt|257|yield of 72}})
::Lv. 25 Dustox (G3: {{tt|571|yield of 160}}; G4: {{tt|575|yield of 161}}){{tt|*|Bit of trivia: These had their yield changed to match the one of their counterpat (Silcoon and Beautifly, respecitvely}}
::Lv. 25 Lileep (G3: {{tt|432|yield of 121}}; G4: {{tt|353|yield of 99}})
::Lv. 25 Cradily (G3: {{tt|717|yield of 201}}; G4: {{tt|710|yield of 199}})
::Lv. 25 Anorith (G3: {{tt|425|yield of 119}}; G4: {{tt|353|yield of 99}})
::Lv. 25 Armaldo (G3: {{tt|714|yield of 200}}; G4: {{tt|710|yield of 199}})
::That's quite bit of changes... [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 11:43, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

== Abilities ==

Do you know what sidegames (minus PMD) have description for Abilities (these that exist in main series; since eg. Conquest has both those in main-series and new ones). [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 08:49, 12 August 2013 (UTC) PS. Asking because [[User talk:Marked +-+-+/AbilityInfobox|this]]. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 08:50, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
:I can't think of any that you haven't already mentioned without research. As you said, PMD and Conquest do. Ranger doesn't, Rumble has [[Special Trait]]s instead. PokéPark I don't recall having abilities, and most of the others were before Gen III. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:52, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

== Side series ==

For over a month, {{u|SnorlaxMonster}} has neglected to answer {{DL|User talk:SnorlaxMonster|Side series|my query}}, so I've come to you instead. {{DL|Talk:Generation VI|"For the first time in the main series, the games will be in full 3D"?|According to him}}, it was decided years ago that the Stadium, Box, and Colosseum series make up the "side series" rather than main or spin-off series. At my prodding, the respective games' pages were updated to acknowledge this, but we still have no template or mainspace page for side series, so all those links still redirect to spin-off series, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Games&curid=11934&diff=1951987&oldid=1917244 to the confusion of uninformed users]. I drafted the article and template we need in my userspace ([[User:Pumpkinking0192/Side series]] and [[User:Pumpkinking0192/Template:Side series]]). Are these suitable for mainspacing? If not, how can I fix that? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:24, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
:There was some miscommunication, resulting in a 'decision' to change the naming scheme being made without the proper input or approval of the Editorial Board, which is required for such a large, widespread change. There are several issues with the rename which have been brought to our attention and the change has been put on hold until the issues can be sorted, but it's taking a long time because there are many more things which are significantly more important, such as a number of very complex templates needing a complete rebuild before XY due to new mechanics. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:52, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
::Thanks for letting me know. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:44, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

== I cant add mew glitch yellow pic ==

pleas read subject--[[User:Mecha mew 2|Mecha mew 2]] ([[User talk:Mecha mew 2|talk]]) 15:47, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
:Images are uploaded over on the [[a:Main Page|Bulbagargen Archives]]. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 09:49, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

== List of Pokémon Pocket Monsters chapters ==

Would it be alright to ask you with this, as I posted this on {{u|Zesty Cactus}}'s talk page, but I didn't get a reply?

For this [[User:Reshi643/List of Pokémon Pocket Monsters chapters|list]], I have two questions: 1) For the Volume 10 chapters, the (Japanese:) and the infobox don't match, is there a reason for it? 2) For Volume 14, is it alright to leave the English title column to match with the rest? — [[User:Reshi643|Reshi]][[User talk:Reshi643|643]] 03:05, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
:# It looks like the infobox one is simply transliterated (romanised), while the article one is translated. The infobox parameter's poorly named ("title_ro" instead of "title_trans" or similar), but I'd rather have the translation there than the romanisation. The translation lets people that don't read Japanese see how the title was changed when the chapter was translated into English.
:# Definitely.
[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:28, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
::Thanks, I moved the list to the mainspace, also, sorry about the timestamp being August 6, as I copy and paste the message, and didn't resign the message. — [[User:Reshi643|Reshi]][[User talk:Reshi643|643]] 22:34, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

== One-time appearance of a Pokémon ==

What is the ruling for anime Pokémon not belonging to anyone who appeared in one episode (including ones who are nicknamed). If they receive an article, does staff need to approve of it first, because I created the Osharina article off-site since she caused the rivalry between Ash and Cadbury, which was the main focus of the episode. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 05:00, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
:You'd be better off talking to a staff member who watches the anime, but based on what you've told me, I do not think it qualifies based on the notability requirements. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:20, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
::Glad I didn't create it. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 01:30, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

== IP range calculator ==

I had passed this onto G50 and felt that I should also pass it onto you: [https://toolserver.org/~chm/blockcalc.php IP range calculator] I use this on Wookieepedia to calculate range blocks, and looking over the block log, the blocked IP will need to be range-blocked. That said, I had dropped the two IPs into the calculator and calculated a range: Range 216.154.88.0/21 (up to 2048 users would be blocked) Looking it up, it may be a proxy server, as I had dealt with spambots from that hostname before. Thus, blocking the aforementioned range should do the trick. Good luck! [[User:Trak Nar|Trak Nar]] ([[User talk:Trak Nar|talk]]) 05:20, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
:Since the IP traces to residential Canada, which is one of our main audiences, we won't be blocking an IP range because it's far too likely to hit legitimate users. Not to mention the fact that this user clearly knows how to change his/her IP, I'm confident that it wouldn't stop the target person for long. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:20, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

== Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis: LANDpedia ==

Hi, sorry to come bothering you but you seemed the most appropriate person for this matter, I ask for apologies if I am wrong. I just wanted to note that it seems LANDpedia no longer exists at all, [http://pokeland.net/ Poké Land] seems to be up, but LAND gazette doesn't seem to be updated since the 17th of April of 2012, LANDpedia doesn't seem to exist as a website at all (the page can not be found, suggesting to be redirected back to Poké Land), and LAND community seems to be the only one up but I couldn't confirm if it's still being update. Since the website seems to be discontinued, is it a good policy to keep the links in the main page and other pages under the Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis even though there is nowhere for the users to go to? Just trying to land a hand and help, have a nice day ^^ ----[[User:EtherealAether|EtherealAether]] ''([[User talk:EtherealAether|talk]])'' 14:42, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
:I'm aware it's down. It needs a lot of discussion among senior staff, both here and on the other EP wikis, before we remove their links, and there are a lot of more important things that we're focusing on at the moment. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 05:28, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

== Question about userspace edits ==

I read on the FAQ you can only make 3 userspace edits a day. Can you give me an example of what they mean by 3 edits?
Yes I'm a noob [[User:Raichu8575|Raichu8575]] ([[User talk:Raichu8575|talk]]) 13:22, 22 August 2013 (UTC)Raichu8575
:Every time you click the save page button is one edit. If you do that on a page that starts with "User:", that is one userspace edit. So you can only do that three times in one day, then you have to wait for the next day. You also need to make edits to pages that don't have a prefix (i.e. the actual articles) to be allowed to make that many userspace edits in one day. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 05:28, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

== Breeding table ==

From the {{m|Natural Gift}}'s breeding table, why is the Gen IV list under the Gen V header? — [[User:Reshi643|Reshi]][[User talk:Reshi643|643]] 03:47, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
:If I'm not mistaken, those are BW and B2W2 lists, not Gen IV lists. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 05:28, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
::You're right, I thought with the Gen IV having nothing in it, that there was something wrong with it. Sorry about that. — [[User:Reshi643|Reshi]][[User talk:Reshi643|643]] 05:43, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

== "Last episode in X series" trivia ==

I'm sorry to bother you, but I see that you're the only staff member currently making edits. Viv and I are having a [[User talk:Viv#"Last episode of X series" trivia|disagreement]] over this piece of trivia in the articles [[EP274]], [[AG192]], [[DP191]] and [[BW142]]. It's absolutely unnecessary because the first line of the article already states that each of these is the last episode in their respective series, but Viv insists that it cannot be removed because... well, I can't fathom his reasoning. He seems to think that because the trivia have been on the articles a long time, they need an admin's approval to be removed, and in the interest of not edit warring, I'm coming to you to resolve this because he won't listen to me. Thanks. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 08:11, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm also really sorry for bothering you for such a small matter but I think that, the trivia should remain there as it's from the starting and after the [[BW142]] trivia only, all the trivia have been removed, I strictly think this should be there as always. This should not be undone by Pumpkinking for the sake of doing it, further more for removing such a trivia he should have asked someone. I would agree whatever your decision would be. Of course this is not a court. --[[User:Viv|Viv]] ([[User talk:Viv|talk]]) 08:21, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank You for even listening to me!--[[User:Viv|Viv]] ([[User talk:Viv|talk]]) 08:16, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
:I'm not removing it "for the sake of doing it". I'm removing it because it is against our policy on trivia for such a redundant thing to exist. You still haven't given any legitimate reason for it to remain. ("It's always been there so it should stay" is apathy, not a reason.) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 08:26, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
::We don't have an official policy on trivia. At least... not yet. The trivia point wasn't really notable as the first paragraph of the article already states the exact same thing. If something can be seen on the article itself, it isn't notable.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:36, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Wait baby, cool it down folks We should not be fighting for one line Trivia. What's the big deal if viewers will see that one line trivia of '''This is the last episode of this this series'''. If you are fighting for this then what about the Trivia's like '''This is the last episode of 2000's''' .I'm saying these trivia should remain there I guess we both have given enough of reasoning. Now, let Werdnae decide on this.
Pumpkinking it's my humble request to you now neither you nor should I post anything about this topic. If it's clear you can reply YES/NO.

Post Script-------- Mr. Werdnae I'm really sorry for using your page as an 'EDIT WAR RESOLVING PAGE' and I thing Pumpkinking would also be sorry--[[User:Viv|Viv]] ([[User talk:Viv|talk]]) 08:40, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
:Trivia points should be pieces of info that are worth noting, but don't fit elsewhere in the article. These fail that requirement because it does fit elsewhere in the article - it's already in the intro, making the trivia redundant and unnecessary. As a result, I agree with the removal of the 'end of series' trivia points. As for the 'last episode of <year>' points, I don't think they're notable at all. It's just not that important. If there were breaks at the end of each year, or each year started a new (sub-series) plot arc or something, then maybe. But as it is, the actual date that they aired is somewhat incidental.

:As a side note, if you're going to ask me a question on my talk page, please continue the other parts of the conversation where you started them, so that you give me enough time to consider both sides of the argument, make a decision and then explain it, without getting an edit conflict and having to start again. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:52, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
::Thank you, Werdnae. As a side note, Force Fire, while I am aware that we don't have an official written-in-stone policy about trivia, it would be fallacious to ignore the de facto consensus against redundancy that people, including many admins, have been cracking down on, especially lately. That's what I was referring to by "policy": the unwritten rules that are enforced just as much as the written ones. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:29, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

== PokéInfobox. ==

I've noticed there is a small error there (that is, it says "Gen. I-IV" even if Pokémon didn't originate from Generation 1), also there shouldn't be tooltip for New Dex No. if Pokémon's Johto Dex No. is 101 or smaller, since up {{p|Yanma|to that}} they're the same. [[User:Uploader|Uploader]] ([[User talk:Uploader|talk]]) 07:33, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
:Thanks for mentioning those. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 00:06, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

== Red and Blue art? ==

Don't mean to bother you or anything, but all original Pokémon have their infobox images as their Red and Blue art and its not September 30th. Glitch?--[[User:Weavilewarrior|Weavile Warrior]] ([[User talk:Weavilewarrior|talk]]) 21:57, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
:See [[Talk:Meowth (Pokémon)#Art]]. — [[User:Reshi643|Reshi]][[User talk:Reshi643|643]] 22:02, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
::I find it silly that users should have to hunt down a minuscule talk page for an answer to a simple question. I think it's an issue that the notices on the talk pages do not mention this date as one of the dates for the artwork switching. Confusion will only continue unless it's addressed somewhere. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 22:28, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
:::If anyone's interested in mainspacing it, I made [[User:Pumpkinking0192/Template:TalkArtworkNotice|a template]] we can put on the top of these pages so we can update them all simultaneously when something like this happens. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:17, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

== 50.Grind ==

Hi, I have written two articles on Wikipedia - [[wikipedia:50.Grind|50.Grind]] and their song [[wikipedia:Gotta Catch 'Em All|Gotta Catch 'Em All]]. Would they be notable enough for inclusion here, and if so, would I be able to just copy my articles over here?--[[User:Tmwps|Tmwps]] ([[User talk:Tmwps|talk]]) 21:38, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
:The former I would say no. We can just link to the Wikipedia article where it matters. The latter could get an article, but it would need more than what's on that wikipedia article before it'd be considered a worthwhile page. Check the [[Bulbapedia:Project_Music#Song_articles|Project Music]] page for what's expected. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:09, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

== Underleveled Pokémon ==

Hello, Werdnae. I wanted to discuss a potential change with you on how Underleveled Pokémon are presented on the [[Level]] article. At present, the [[Level#Underleveled Pokémon|current section]] is a few short paragraphs that only mention a few examples of Pokémon in the wild and in battles with Trainers that are not yet to the proper level to evolve. I was wondering if you would be alright if a standalone article could be created about the Underleveled Pokémon, along with [[User:Super goku/Sandbox/Underleveled Table|a table for a list]] of all the instances where it has occurred in trainer battles at the least. Thank you for your time. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:05, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
:My initial thought was that it might be too common to be worth noting, but I don't have the time to look into it properly it while I'm focusing on templates for XY. I don't want to make a decision on it yet because of that. If another staff member wants to jump in and make that decision, I'll trust their judgement. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 00:06, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
::I will admit that there are quite a few Pokémon per generation listed, I feel that it is somewhat similar in content to the [[Game move errors]] article, though I understand that being close to XY could be a problem timewise. Would it be alright if I were to ask Kogoro for their opinion in this matter? --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 06:32, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

== Plasma Blast ==
I have attempted to correct a simple factual inaccuracy on {{TCG|Plasma Blast|this page}} twice, however [[user talk:Maverick Nate|Maverick Nate]] has reverted it both times with little explanation. I attempted to resolve this issue on his talk page over two weeks ago, but he did not respond and simply reverted my change again immediately (with a very slight change in the wording that doesn't really clarify how it's factually correct). I would appreciate it if you could step in and encourage him to either more thoroughly explain the reasoning behind the reverts or to stop making the reverts. [[User:Viskiv|Viskiv]] ([[User talk:Viskiv|talk]]) 07:38, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
:I looked over the issue, and I think I understand what Nate is trying to say. Because the G Scope and G Booster provide Genesect with an extra move, they're essentially like TMs. TMs wouldn't work in the TCG like they do in the games, so I think what he's saying is that they're the next best thing to TMs that the TCG is going to get. They're the first item cards that provide a Pokémon with an extra attack. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 08:27, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
::That line of thinking seems like pure speculation, though. It's certainly not a fact that G Booster and G Scope are meant to represent a new form of TMs, especially given that they only work with a single Pokemon. Although this is also speculation, I believe they were meant to represent the same concept as Genesect's signature hold items - which seems logical to me, given that tools represent hold items. However, regardless of whether or not that particular thought is true, the statement "Because Technical Machines in the Pokémon games now have unlimited uses, attacks are now present on Pokémon Tool cards" is in no way a concrete fact. It is true that there are no TMs in the set and there are two (special, rare, out of the ordinary) tool cards with attacks on them, but that doesn't mean that they're replacing, or meant to replace, TMs at all. To say that those two cards are setting some kind of precedent for how something like TMs will be handled going forward is assuming a bit much, in my opinion. [[User:Viskiv|Viskiv]] ([[User talk:Viskiv|talk]]) 14:27, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
:::Feel free to ''reword'' it as you like, just don't simply ''remove'' the content. First Tools with attacks on them is notable, and it is difficult to work with the content when it keeps getting removed. Please, modify it as you seem fit, just don't outright remove the entire topic when it seems that you have a problem with only 1 of the sentences. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 14:53, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
::::Prior to this discussion I was not actually aware that they were the first tools with attacks on them - I agree that this is notable and should be mentioned. Not knowing that at the time, I didn't think there was anything notable about what I was removing. It would have been nice to have had this discussion two weeks ago! [[User:Viskiv|Viskiv]] ([[User talk:Viskiv|talk]]) 03:32, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

==Itemlist template and edit protected Pokémon page==
Can you add the XY parameters to the [[Template:Itemlist|Itemlist]] template and remove the indefinite edit protection on {{p|Noivern}}? '''[[User:Lady Ariel|Lady]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|Ariel]]''' 23:26, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

== Template:Pokémon Infobox - Forme Problem ==

Hiya there. I wanted to add all the 18 versions of [[Vivillon]] to it's page but it seems this template is limited to max 6 forms. Do you have any idea how we could solve this problem? --[[User:Sekuiya|Sekuiya]][[User talk:Sekuiya|talk]] 01:00, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
:Use a gallery in the biology section. Eighteen is far too many images for an infobox, it would push everything so far down the page that it defeats the purpose. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:48, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
::Any suggestions, or example, on how to create that gallery? Like image size, for example. --[[User:Sekuiya|Sekuiya]][[User talk:Sekuiya|talk]] 03:01, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
:::Okay, I followed your suggestion, thought it didn't turn out all that pretty, though that's maybe because it's lacking images, just found I'm not able to upload them. Regardless, iff you could check it out I would be much appreciated. Another thing, since I'm not using the "forme" thingy, is there a way to add to the main pic under it "Meadow Vivillon", like it would add if using the "forme" thingy? --[[User:Sekuiya|Sekuiya]][[User talk:Sekuiya|talk]] 03:43, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Vivillon (Pokémon)

2013-10-26T03:40:43Z

Sekuiya: Added gallery for the Vivillon forms.

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Spewpa | next=Litleo | type=bug | type2=flying | prevnum=665| nextnum=667 }}
{{Pokémon Infobox |
name=Vivillon |
jname=ビビヨン|
tmname=Bibiyon |
forme=1 |
forme1=Meadow |
pron=<sc></sc> |
species=Scale |
typebox=1 |
type1=Bug |
type2=Flying |
abilityn=d |
ability1=Shield Dust |
ability2=Compound Eyes |
abilityd=Friend Guard |
ndex=666 |
karea=Central |
kdex=022 |
height-ftin=3'11" |
height-m=1.2 |
weight-lbs=37.5 |
weight-kg=17.0 |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Bug |
expyield=0 |-->
gendercode=256|
eggcycles=Unknown|
expyield=? |
lv100exp=Unknown|
color=Black |
catchrate=0 |
body=13 |
pokefordex=Unknown |
generation=6 |
friendship=? |
footnotes=}}
'''Vivillon''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ビビヨン''' ''Bibiyon'') is a dual-type {{2t|Bug|Flying}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Spewpa}} starting at [[Level|level]] 12. It is the final form of {{p|Scatterbug}}.

==Biology==
It uses its wings to scatter its scales or create a strong wind to attack. Vivillon is said to have a secret hidden in the colorful decorative pattern on its wings.

The design on Vivillon's wings [[Variant Pokémon|depends on the geographic location]] of its [[Original Trainer]]. There are a total of 18 known designs.

<gallery>
File:666Vivillon-Polar.png|Polar Vivillon
File:666Vivillon-Tundra.png|Tundra Vivillon
File:666Vivillon-Continental.png|Continental Vivillon
File:666Vivillon-Garden.png|Garden Vivillon
File:666Vivillon-Elegant.png|Elegant Vivillon
File:666Vivillon-Icy_Snow.png|Icy Snow Vivillon
File:666Vivillon-Modern.png|Modern Vivillon
File:666Vivillon-Marine.png|Marine Vivillon
File:666Vivillon-Archipelago.png|Archipelago Vivillon
File:666Vivillon-High_Plains.png|High Plains Vivillon
File:666Vivillon-Sandstorm.png|Sandstorm Vivillon
File:666Vivillon-River.png|River Vivillon
File:666Vivillon-Monsoon.png|Monsoon Vivillon
File:666Vivillon-Savanna.png|Savanna Vivillon
File:666Vivillon-Sun.png|Sun Vivillon
File:666Vivillon-Ocean.png|Ocean Vivillon
File:666Vivillon-Jungle.png|Jungle Vivillon
</gallery>

==In the anime==
===Major appearances===
Vivillon is set to make its debut appearance in ''[[XY005]]'', under the ownership of [[Viola]].

===Minor appearances===

===Pokédex entries===

==In the manga==

==In the TCG==
Vivillon has not yet been featured in the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]].

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=bug
|type2=flying
|gen=6
|xdex=Vivillon with many different patterns are found all over the world. These patterns are affected by the climate of their habitat.
|ydex=The patterns on this Pokémon’s wings depend on the climate and topography of its habitat. It scatters colorful scales.
}}

===Game locations===
{{availability|
type=bug|
type2=flying|
gen=6|
xyrarity=None|
xyarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Spewpa}} |
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=Bug|
type2=Flying|
HP= 80|
Attack= 52|
Defense=50|
SpAtk= 90|
SpDef= 50|
Speed= 89}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{TypeEffectiveness|
type1=bug|
type2=flying|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting= 25 |
Flying= 200 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 400 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |
Fire= 200 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 25 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |
Fairy= 100 |
notes=yes|
flying=ironball|
newground=½}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{Learnlist/levelh/6|Vivillon|Flying|Bug|6}}
{{learnlist/level6|21|Supersonic|Normal|Status|—|55|20}}
{{learnlist/level6|25|Draining Kiss|Fairy|Special|50|100|10}}
{{learnlist/level6|31|Aromatherapy|Grass|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/level6|35|Bug Buzz|Bug|Special|90|100|10||'''}}
{{Learnlist/levelf|Vivillon|Flying|Bug|6}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh/6|Vivillon|Bug|Flying|6}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM04|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM16|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM19|Roost|Flying|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM22|Solar Beam|Grass|Special|120|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM29|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM40|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM46|Thief|Dark|Physical|60|100|25}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM53|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM62|Acrobatics|Flying|Physical|55|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM68|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM70|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM76|Struggle Bug|Bug|Special|30|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM83|Infestation|Bug|Special|20|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM85|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15}}
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====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====

====By a prior [[evolution]]====

===Evolution===
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===Sprites===

==Trivia==

===Origin===
Vivillon is based on a butterfly.

====Name origin====
Vivillon may be a combination of ''vivid'' and ''papillon'' (French for butterfly). It may also derive from ''viví en'' (Spanish for "I lived in"), referring to its geographic variation.

Bibiyon may be a combination of 美 ''bi'' (beauty), ''vivid'', and ''papillon''.

==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=bug|type2=flying
|ja=ビビヨン ''Bibiyon''|jameaning=From 美 ''bi'' (beauty), ''vivid'', and ''papillon'' (French for butterfly)
|fr=Prismillon |frmeaning=From ''prisme'' (prism) and ''papillon'' (butterfly)
|es=Vivillon |esmeaning=Same as English name
|de=Vivillon |demeaning=Same as English name
|it=Vivillon |itmeaning=Same as English name
|ko=비비용 ''Bibiyong''|komeaning=From its Japanese name}}
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==External links==

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{{Project Pokédex notice}}

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Talk:Legendary duo

2013-10-26T03:09:25Z

Sekuiya: /* Mortality Duo */

==Own pages==
Should these "legendary duos" get their own pages and template like the legendary trios? [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 23:23, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

And here's something for debate: Phione & Manaphy: a duo? [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 23:23, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
:BZZT, unlike the birds, beasts, golems, and pixies, these guys have no special duo traits or stories. The birds together summon Lugia, Ho-Oh made the beasts, the golems awaken Regigigas, and the pixies were created by Arceus. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:25, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
::Not sure which question you're trying to answer, but if you're talking about getting their own pages:
* I think if we are going to state the similar movesets we need them to have a new template and there own pages. I think it's a good idea. :)
*Similar movesets (for some of them)
*Mewtwo/Mew has movie and relations
*Lati@s (obvious, already has a page, similar movesets)
*Lugia and Ho-Oh both resided on the towers
*Cresselia and Darkrai are polar opposites (in Mystery Dungeon and DPPt at least)
*Phione and Manaphy are in the same family, similar traits, similar movesets.
[[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 23:33, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

:::I agree with Gligar; they do need their own page.[[User:Green Zubat|Green Zubat]] ([[User talk:Green Zubat|talk]]) 20:15, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

== WTH WTF ON LD Pg!?!?!?!?!?!?!? ==

WTH WHO IN TERMINIA IS DELETING MY SEAFAIRYDUO SECTION! I DEMAND AN ANSWER! '''NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!''' [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] 00:24, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:As I said, do you have proof as them both being a duo? Phione is merely an offspring and a sort of "servant" to Manaphy~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Ποκεμανιακα0β]] 00:26, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Good point. Sorry. I didn't see your comment on the trio page.[[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] 18:18, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:Oh no it's fine, don't apologize~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Ποκεμανιακα0β]] 18:21, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

How about we make a speculation duo heading then: Speculation Trios? It would make a good idea, plus anyone who wanted could put up their speculation? I need at least 4 people backing me up on this before I'm gonna make this, and if anyone makes it before I have the 4+ 'votes', I'm gonna delete it like Pokemaniac102 did to my section. Just sign, and I'll consider it a 'vote'.
:Oo, sorry but Bulbapedia rule is '''NO SPECULATION'''~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Ποκεμανιακα0β]] 18:36, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

OK, sorry. [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] 18:37, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== Moveset ==

There should be one under each section like there is on the trio pages. [[User:Yinyang1195|Yin]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|Yang]] 20:42, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

== Tower Mix-Up? ==

I thought I had better check first, but I think there has been a mix-up regarding the Tin Tower and the Brass Tower. It says that Lugia perched at the top of the Tin Tower, and Ho-oh on the Brass Tower. Shouldn't that be the other way round? Ho-oh is found at the Tin Tower in Gold and Silver. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 11:59, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
:True.. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 12:03, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

== SeaFairy duo ==

If Mew and Mewtwo are a duo, Manaphy and Phione are also!
Mewtwo is the unnaturaly created stronger version of Mew
Phione is the naturaly created (bred) weaker version of Manaphy.
The first are both Psychic the latter are both Water... There is no logic saying one are a duo and the other 2 are not.--[[User:Saiph charon|Saiph charon]] 12:46, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

== Mewtwo and Mew, a duo? ==

It is a bit of an stretch, the only relation they have is flavor text: They lack similar stat distributions or even stat totals and they have different movesets and learning levels. When they were made, they were not paired like the other 3 duos, and rather worked like two related but standalone Pokemon. You can see it in gen II, when they diverge, and Mewtwo inspires Lugia and Ho-Oh, while Mew inspires Celebi (and the future event Pokemon).

Yeah, Mewtwo and Mew are related, but it is not the same relation that the other 3 examples have. In fact, Mewtwo, apart of flavor text, has more things with common with the Tower Duo that with Mew; with whom it only has in common Flavor text.

So, this is at least worth of a mention in the article. An article, I have to say, way less solid that the Legendary trio one, and based quite a bit more that it in fan theories. [[User:Eriorguez|Eriorguez]] 17:02, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== Hmm... ==

Should we make separate pages for each duo/trio/group?[[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 04:07, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

== Lunar Duo ==

I noticed that of the true duos, only the Lunar Duo has one pokemon that is in the game and one from an event. Is that worth noting on the page, or no? It seemed a tad too trivial for me to do it without asking. [[User:PowerPlantRaichu|PowerPlantRaichu]] ([[User talk:PowerPlantRaichu|talk]]) 11:30, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:What about Cresselia/Darkrai and Mew/Mewtwo? Really, based on our listing, the Tower Duo is the only duo that ''does'' have them both readily available in the same game. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 11:39, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

==Title change?==

Perhaps it would be better to call them symmetric and asymmetric duos, instead of "true" and "other"? It just seems to play down the associations between some of them otherwise.[[User:Green Zubat|Green Zubat]] ([[User talk:Green Zubat|talk]]) 20:15, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
:I like this idea. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:43, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

== Mew TRIO ==

We should change the [[Mew duo]] to the Mew Trio because of "New Mewtwo". [[User:MasterZ|MasterZ]] ([[User talk:MasterZ|talk]]) 20:17, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
:NO. That is speculation. Seeing as the Pokémon has no known name currently, it is better to wait rather than speculate and make assumptions from an image. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 20:18, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
::Sorry, didn't realize. I've learned to wait for more info to be released. [[User:MasterZ|MasterZ]] ([[User talk:MasterZ|talk]]) 01:53, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

== Mortality Duo ==

I added the Mortality Duo Xerneas and Yveltal to the page. If I understand this duo and Trio system, they belong here until Zygarde gets a version or two of its own? Also, Mortality Duo is more of a place holder until an official fan term is adopted. Mortality comes from Xerneas giving life and Yveltal taking life.

Anyways, I have ? down for 10 of their level up moves since that was how it is on their pages. When the levels are known, please feel free to change ? to the level. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 00:04, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
:In that case wouldn't Life Duo be a better name since both involve life? Mortality involves death and only Yvetal deals with that. That and bonus for short word? --[[User:Sekuiya|Sekuiya]][[User talk:Sekuiya|talk]] 03:09, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

User talk:Werdnae/Archive 4

2013-10-26T03:01:13Z

Sekuiya: /* Template:Pokémon Infobox - Forme Problem */

List of clothing in Pokémon X and Y

2013-10-26T02:54:50Z

Sekuiya: Added some calendar days.

Talk:List of clothing in Pokémon X and Y

2013-10-26T02:21:31Z

Sekuiya: /* Daily wares? */

Talk:List of clothing in Pokémon X and Y

2013-10-26T02:20:22Z

Sekuiya: /* Daily wares? */

=Sorting=
What kind of sorting should we use to list the clothes? Alphabetical or the one used ingame when the alphabetical one is turned off? Or any other special order? --[[User:Sekuiya|Sekuiya]][[User talk:Sekuiya|talk]] 16:37, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
:And while we're at it, should we separate male clothes from females one? I think mixing them all can be rather confusing. --[[User:Sekuiya|Sekuiya]][[User talk:Sekuiya|talk]] 16:40, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Maybe there should be a row to tell which gender can buy the clothes? And I would think sorting items by style first found; default items would be first, then items of the same style bought, then different style items found earliest. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 16:58, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
:But there's items from the same type with different styles. Wouldn't that get a little confusing? Isn't it better to do it Alphabetical, less confusing, no? --[[User:Sekuiya|Sekuiya]][[User talk:Sekuiya|talk]] 17:08, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
::That's what I meant by items of the same style. Male's start out with black Short Boots, so that would be the first item. Then all the other Short Boots found wherever they're found, then the next available style of shoe and so on and so forth. Alphabetical would work just as well, replacing the N/A's with Default. I'm assuming after sorting items alphabetically, we'd then sort same style items by location, yes? Or would price be a better-looking format? [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 17:16, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
::: Alphabetical sounds like a better way, you can even sort alphabetical ingame, which would make it a lot easier to compare lists and find clothes you're missing. In my opinion, alphabetical is the way to go. And regarding male VS female. Maybe two different sections would be better, afterall, most of their clothes are different from ours, if not all! --[[User:Sekuiya|Sekuiya]][[User talk:Sekuiya|talk]] 17:19, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
::::Surely Socks and Accessories aren't all that different, are they? Would it look too cluttered if there were two charts side-by-side? Is that even possible? [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 17:22, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
:::::Dunno about socks, but regarding Accessories, they're the same only in Buttons, they don't the same Glasses we have nor Feathers. Regarding tables side by side, it would be possible but you would have to ask someone with more experience in wiki styling. --[[User:Sekuiya|Sekuiya]][[User talk:Sekuiya|talk]] 18:02, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

== Daily wares? ==

Can someone confirm me that the clothes available are the same depending on the day of the week and not just completely random? --[[User:Sekuiya|Sekuiya]][[User talk:Sekuiya|talk]] 19:59, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
:Well, I decided to do a week long experiment. I'll be adding the day of the week when it shows up and then in the next week see if it repeats. I hope I can catch all days. Wish me luck! --[[User:Sekuiya|Sekuiya]][[User talk:Sekuiya|talk]] 02:20, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

User talk:Werdnae/Archive 4

2013-10-26T01:00:20Z

Sekuiya: /* Template:Pokémon Infobox - Forme Problem */ new section

List of clothing in Pokémon X and Y

2013-10-25T20:37:48Z

Sekuiya: Added some locations and prices.

Talk:List of clothing in Pokémon X and Y

2013-10-25T19:59:19Z

Sekuiya: /* Daily wares? */ new section

List of clothing in Pokémon X and Y

2013-10-25T19:05:16Z

Sekuiya: /* List of clothes */ Added all (I think) the male clothes, missing most locations and price. Prepared female section for data entry.

Talk:List of clothing in Pokémon X and Y

2013-10-25T18:02:03Z

Sekuiya: /* Sorting */

Talk:List of clothing in Pokémon X and Y

2013-10-25T17:19:19Z

Sekuiya: /* Sorting */

Talk:List of clothing in Pokémon X and Y

2013-10-25T17:08:40Z

Sekuiya: /* Sorting */

User talk:Glik/Archive Oct 2013-July 2015

2013-10-25T16:51:41Z

Sekuiya: /* Clothing */ new section

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== Clothing ==

I noticed you're heavly editing the Clothing page. I would like to also contribute I'm not sure what kind of sorting you're using to organized the page. Could you please look at the [[Talk:Clothing]] and answer me there? --[[User:Sekuiya|Sekuiya]][[User talk:Sekuiya|talk]] 16:51, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Talk:List of clothing in Pokémon X and Y

2013-10-25T16:40:54Z

Sekuiya: /* Sorting */

Talk:List of clothing in Pokémon X and Y

2013-10-25T16:37:13Z

Sekuiya: Created page with "=Sorting= What kind of sorting should we use to list the clothes? Alphabetical or the one used ingame when the alphabetical one is turned off? Or any other special order? ~~~~"

Talk:Vivillon (Pokémon)

2013-10-25T16:21:22Z

Sekuiya: /* Vivillon Forms */

Talk:Vivillon (Pokémon)

2013-10-25T16:03:58Z

Sekuiya: /* Vivillon Forms */ new section