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2025-01-26T02:16:19Z

SeanWheeler: Created page with "==Move back to Silver Wing== It's not obtainable in Scarlet and Violet. Should we really move pages when the name change only happens in the code? ~~~~"

==Move back to Silver Wing==
It's not obtainable in Scarlet and Violet. Should we really move pages when the name change only happens in the code? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 02:16, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

Time-based Evolution

2024-11-19T04:37:21Z

SeanWheeler: /* List of time-based Evolutions */ Anti-clockwise? Don't you mean counterclockwise?

'''Time-based Evolution''' refers to Pokémon that [[Evolution|evolve]] during a certain [[time]] of the day. This [[Methods of Evolution|method of Evolution]] was introduced in [[Generation II]].

==List of time-based Evolutions==
{| style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{bulba color}}; {{roundy|10px}}; border:3px solid #{{bulba color dark}}"
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#{{bulba color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Previous Evolution
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{bulba color light}}" | Time Evolution
! colspan="2" style="background:#{{bulba color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Later Evolution
|-
| colspan="7" style="background: #{{johto color light}}" | '''Introduced in [[Generation II]]'''
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| colspan="2" rowspan="2" | Eevee is the lowest in its evolutionary line
| rowspan="2" | {{ArtP|0133|Eevee}} {{pcolor|Eevee|000}} {{typecolor|Normal}}
| {{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + {{bag/s|Soothe Bell|SV}} + [[File:Day Icon SV.png|40px]] [[Level]] Up (during the daytime with high [[friendship]])<ref name=eevee>Because time-based Evolutions are not present in {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}, Eevee cannot evolve into {{p|Espeon}} or {{p|Umbreon}} regardless of the time set on the console.</ref> →
| {{ArtP|0196|Espeon}} {{pcolor|Espeon|000}} {{typecolor|Psychic}}
| colspan="2" | Espeon does not evolve
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| {{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + {{bag/s|Soothe Bell|SV}} + [[File:Night Icon SV.png|40px]] [[Level]] Up (during the nighttime with high [[friendship]])<ref name=eevee/> →
| {{ArtP|0197|Umbreon}} {{pcolor|Umbreon|000}} {{typecolor|Dark}}
| colspan="2" | Umbreon does not evolve
|-
| colspan="7" style="background: #{{sinnoh color light}}" | '''Introduced in [[Generation IV]]'''
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| colspan="2" | Gligar is the lowest in its evolutionary line
| {{ArtP|0207|Gligar}} {{pcolor|Gligar|000}} {{typecolor|Ground}}{{typecolor|Flying}}
| {{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + {{bag/s|Razor Fang|SV}} + [[File:Night Icon SV.png|40px]] [[Level]] Up (holding [[Razor Fang]] during the nighttime) →
| {{ArtP|0472|Gliscor}} {{pcolor|Gliscor|000}} {{typecolor|Ground}}{{typecolor|Flying}}
| colspan="2" | Gliscor does not evolve
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| colspan="2" | Sneasel is the lowest in its evolutionary line
| {{ArtP|0215|Sneasel}} {{pcolor|Sneasel|000}} {{typecolor|Dark}}{{typecolor|Ice}}
| {{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + {{bag/s|Razor Claw|SV}} + [[File:Night Icon SV.png|40px]] [[Level]] Up (holding [[Razor Claw]] during the nighttime) →
| {{ArtP|0461|Weavile}} {{pcolor|Weavile|000}} {{typecolor|Dark}}{{typecolor|Ice}}
| colspan="2" | Weavile does not evolve
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| colspan="2" | Budew is the lowest in its evolutionary line
| {{ArtP|0406|Budew}} {{pcolor|Budew|000}} {{typecolor|Grass}}{{typecolor|Poison}}
| {{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + {{bag/s|Soothe Bell|SV}} + [[File:Day Icon SV.png|40px]] [[Level]] Up (during the [[day]]time with high friendship) →
| {{ArtP|0315|Roselia}} {{pcolor|Roselia|000}} {{typecolor|Grass}}{{typecolor|Poison}}
| {{bag/s|Shiny Stone|SV}} {{color2|000|Shiny Stone}} →
| {{ArtP|0407|Roserade}} {{pcolor|Roserade|000}} {{typecolor|Grass}}{{typecolor|Poison}}
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| colspan="2" | Chingling is the lowest in its evolutionary line
| {{ArtP|0433|Chingling}} {{pcolor|Chingling|000}} {{typecolor|Psychic}}
| {{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + {{bag/s|Soothe Bell|SV}} + [[File:Night Icon SV.png|40px]] [[Level]] Up (during the nighttime with high friendship) →
| {{ArtP|0358|Chimecho}} {{pcolor|Chimecho|000}} {{typecolor|Psychic}}
| colspan="2" | Chimecho does not evolve
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| colspan="2" | Happiny is the lowest in its evolutionary line
| {{ArtP|0440|Happiny}} {{pcolor|Happiny|000}} {{typecolor|Normal}}
| {{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + {{bag/s|Oval Stone|SV}} + [[File:Day Icon SV.png|40px]] [[Level]] Up (during the [[day]]time holding [[Oval Stone]]) →
| {{ArtP|0113|Chansey}} {{pcolor|Chansey|000}} {{typecolor|Normal}}
| {{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + {{bag/s|Soothe Bell|SV}} [[Level]] Up (with high friendship) →
| {{ArtP|0242|Blissey}} {{pcolor|Blissey|000}} {{typecolor|Normal}}
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| colspan="2" | Riolu is the lowest in its evolutionary line
| {{ArtP|0447|Riolu}} {{pcolor|Riolu|000}} {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| {{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + {{bag/s|Soothe Bell|SV}} + [[File:Day Icon SV.png|40px]] [[Level]] Up (during the daytime with high friendship) →
| {{ArtP|0448|Lucario}} {{pcolor|Lucario|000}} {{typecolor|Fighting}}{{typecolor|Steel}}
| colspan="2" | Lucario does not evolve
|-
| colspan="7" style="background: #{{kalos color light}}" | '''Introduced in [[Generation VI]]'''
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| colspan="2" | Tyrunt is the lowest in its evolutionary line
| {{ArtP|0696|Tyrunt}} {{pcolor|Tyrunt|000}} {{typecolor|Rock}}{{typecolor|Dragon}}
| {{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + [[File:Day Icon SV.png|40px]] [[Level]] 39+ (during the daytime) →
| {{ArtP|0697|Tyrantrum}} {{pcolor|Tyrantrum|000}} {{typecolor|Rock}}{{typecolor|Dragon}}
| colspan="2" | Tyrantrum does not evolve
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| colspan="2" | Amaura is the lowest in its evolutionary line
| {{ArtP|0698|Amaura}} {{pcolor|Amaura|000}} {{typecolor|Rock}}{{typecolor|Ice}}
| {{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + [[File:Night Icon SV.png|40px]] [[Level]] 39+ (during the nighttime) →
| {{ArtP|0699|Aurorus}} {{pcolor|Aurorus|000}} {{typecolor|Rock}}{{typecolor|Ice}}
| colspan="2" | Aurorus does not evolve
|-
| colspan="7" style="background: #{{alola color light}}" | '''Introduced in [[Generation VII]]'''
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| colspan="2" | Rattata is the lowest in its evolutionary line
| {{ArtP|0019|Rattata|form=-Alola}} {{pcolor|Rattata|000}} {{color2|000|Alolan form}} {{typecolor|Dark}}{{typecolor|Normal}}
| {{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + [[File:Night Icon SV.png|40px]] [[Level]] 20+ (during the nighttime)<ref name=alolanrattata>Because time-based Evolutions are not present in [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]], Alolan Rattata can evolve regardless of the time set on the console.</ref> →
| {{ArtP|0020|Raticate|form=-Alola}} {{pcolor|Raticate|000}} {{color2|000|Alolan form}} {{typecolor|Dark}}{{typecolor|Normal}}
| colspan="2" | Raticate does not evolve
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| colspan="2" | Cubone is the lowest in its evolutionary line
| {{ArtP|0104|Cubone}} {{pcolor|Cubone|000}} {{typecolor|Ground}}
| {{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + [[File:Alola Champion Ribbon VIII.png|40px|link=Alola]] + [[File:Night Icon SV.png|40px]] [[Level]] 28+ (during the nighttime in [[Alola]]) →
| {{ArtP|0105|Marowak|form=-Alola}} {{pcolor|Marowak|000}} {{color2|000|Alolan form}} {{typecolor|Fire}}{{typecolor|Ghost}}
| colspan="2" | Marowak does not evolve
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| colspan="2" | Yungoos is the lowest in its evolutionary line
| {{ArtP|0734|Yungoos}} {{pcolor|Yungoos|000}} {{typecolor|Normal}}
| {{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + [[File:Day Icon SV.png|40px]] [[Level]] 20+ (during the daytime) →
| {{ArtP|0735|Gumshoos}} {{pcolor|Gumshoos|000}} {{typecolor|Normal}}
| colspan="2" | Gumshoos does not evolve
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| colspan="2" rowspan="3" | Rockruff is the lowest in its evolutionary line
| rowspan="3" | {{ArtP|0744|Rockruff}} {{pcolor|Rockruff|000}} {{typecolor|Rock}}
| {{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + [[File:Day Icon SV.png|40px]] [[Level]] 25+ (during the daytime) →
| {{ArtP|0745|Lycanroc}} {{pcolor|Lycanroc|000}} {{color2|000|List of Pokémon with form differences#Lycanroc|Midday Form}}<ref name=middaylycanroc>In [[Generation VII]], Rockruff could only evolve into Midday Form Lycanroc in {{pkmn|Sun and Moon|Pokémon Sun}} and {{pkmn|Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun}}.</ref> {{typecolor|Rock}}
| colspan="2" rowspan="3" | Lycanroc does not evolve
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| {{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + [[File:Night Icon SV.png|40px]] [[Level]] 25+ (during the nighttime) →
| {{ArtP|0745|Lycanroc|form=-Midnight}} {{pcolor|Lycanroc|000}} {{color2|000|List of Pokémon with form differences#Lycanroc|Midnight Form}}<ref name=midnightlycanroc>In [[Generation VII]], Rockruff could only evolve into Midnight Form Lycanroc in {{pkmn|Sun and Moon|Pokémon Moon}} and {{pkmn|Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Moon}}.</ref> {{typecolor|Rock}}
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| {{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + [[File:Dusk Icon SV.png|40px]] [[Level]] 25+ ({{p|Rockruff}} with {{a|Own Tempo}} during the evening) →
| {{ArtP|0745|Lycanroc|form=-Dusk}} {{pcolor|Lycanroc|000}} {{color2|000|List of Pokémon with form differences#Lycanroc|Dusk Form}}<ref name=dusklycanroc>In [[Generation IX]], {{A|Own Tempo}} Rockruff evolves into Dusk Form Lycanroc in {{g|Scarlet and Violet}} during the 3 minute evening period of the 72 minute day/night cycle. In [[Generation VIII]], Own Tempo Rockruff evolves into Dusk Form Lycanroc in {{g|Sword and Shield}} from 7:00 p.m. to 7:59 p.m. in real-time. In [[Generation VII]], Own Tempo Rockruff evolves into Dusk Form Lycanroc in {{g|Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon}} from 5:00 p.m. to 5:59 p.m. in in-game time (equating to 5:00 p.m. to 5:59 p.m. in real-time for Ultra Sun and 5:00 a.m. to 5:59 a.m. in real-time for Ultra Moon).</ref> {{typecolor|Rock}}
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| colspan="2" | Fomantis is the lowest in its evolutionary line
| {{ArtP|0753|Fomantis}} {{pcolor|Fomantis|000}} {{typecolor|Grass}}
| {{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + [[File:Day Icon SV.png|40px]] [[Level]] 34+ (during the daytime) →
| {{ArtP|0754|Lurantis}} {{pcolor|Lurantis|000}} {{typecolor|Grass}}
| colspan="2" style="{{roundybr|5px}}" | Lurantis does not evolve
|-
| colspan="7" style="background: #{{galar color light}}" | '''Introduced in [[Generation VIII]] ([[Pokémon Sword and Shield]])'''
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| {{ArtP|0263|Zigzagoon|form=-Galar}} {{pcolor|Zigzagoon|000}} {{color2|000|Galarian form}} {{typecolor|Dark}}{{typecolor|Normal}}
| {{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} [[Level]] 20+ →
| {{ArtP|0264|Linoone|form=-Galar}} {{pcolor|Linoone|000}} {{color2|000|Galarian form}} {{typecolor|Dark}}{{typecolor|Normal}}
| {{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + [[File:Night Icon SV.png|40px]] [[Level]] 35+ (during the nighttime) →
| {{ArtP|0862|Obstagoon}} {{pcolor|Obstagoon|000}} {{typecolor|Dark}}{{typecolor|Normal}}
| colspan="2" | Obstagoon does not evolve
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| colspan="2" rowspan="9" | Milcery is the lowest in its evolutionary line
| rowspan="9" | {{ArtP|0868|Milcery}} {{pcolor|Milcery|000}} {{typecolor|Fairy}}
| {{bag/s|Strawberry Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Berry Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Love Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Star Sweet|SV}} {{bag/s|Clover Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Flower Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Ribbon Sweet|SV}} + [[File:Day Icon SV.png|40px]] Spin holding a [[Sweet]] (clockwise for less than 5 seconds during the daytime) →
| {{MSP/HOME|0869|Alcremie|size=70px}} {{pcolor|Alcremie|000}} {{color2|000|List of Pokémon with form differences#Alcremie|Vanilla Cream}} {{typecolor|Fairy}}
| colspan="2" rowspan="9" | Alcremie does not evolve
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| {{bag/s|Strawberry Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Berry Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Love Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Star Sweet|SV}} {{bag/s|Clover Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Flower Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Ribbon Sweet|SV}} + [[File:Day Icon SV.png|40px]] Spin holding a [[Sweet]] (counterclockwise for less than 5 seconds during the daytime) →
| {{MSP/HOME|0869RuC|Alcremie|size=70px}} {{pcolor|Alcremie|000}} {{color2|000|List of Pokémon with form differences#Alcremie|Ruby Cream}} {{typecolor|Fairy}}
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| {{bag/s|Strawberry Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Berry Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Love Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Star Sweet|SV}} {{bag/s|Clover Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Flower Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Ribbon Sweet|SV}} + [[File:Day Icon SV.png|40px]] Spin holding a [[Sweet]] (clockwise for more than 5 seconds during the daytime) →
| {{MSP/HOME|0869CaS|Alcremie|size=70px}} {{pcolor|Alcremie|000}} {{color2|000|List of Pokémon with form differences#Alcremie|Caramel Swirl}} {{typecolor|Fairy}}
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| {{bag/s|Strawberry Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Berry Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Love Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Star Sweet|SV}} {{bag/s|Clover Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Flower Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Ribbon Sweet|SV}} + [[File:Day Icon SV.png|40px]] Spin holding a [[Sweet]] (counterclockwise for more than 5 seconds during the daytime) →
| {{MSP/HOME|0869RuS|Alcremie|size=70px}} {{pcolor|Alcremie|000}} {{color2|000|List of Pokémon with form differences#Alcremie|Ruby Swirl}} {{typecolor|Fairy}}
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| {{bag/s|Strawberry Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Berry Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Love Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Star Sweet|SV}} {{bag/s|Clover Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Flower Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Ribbon Sweet|SV}} + [[File:Night Icon SV.png|40px]] Spin holding a [[Sweet]] (clockwise for less than 5 seconds during the nighttime) →
| {{MSP/HOME|0869MaC|Alcremie|size=70px}} {{pcolor|Alcremie|000}} {{color2|000|List of Pokémon with form differences#Alcremie|Matcha Cream}} {{typecolor|Fairy}}
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| {{bag/s|Strawberry Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Berry Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Love Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Star Sweet|SV}} {{bag/s|Clover Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Flower Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Ribbon Sweet|SV}} + [[File:Night Icon SV.png|40px]] Spin holding a [[Sweet]] (counterclockwise for less than 5 seconds during the nighttime) →
| {{MSP/HOME|0869SaC|Alcremie|size=70px}} {{pcolor|Alcremie|000}} {{color2|000|List of Pokémon with form differences#Alcremie|Salted Cream}} {{typecolor|Fairy}}
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| {{bag/s|Strawberry Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Berry Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Love Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Star Sweet|SV}} {{bag/s|Clover Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Flower Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Ribbon Sweet|SV}} + [[File:Night Icon SV.png|40px]] Spin holding a [[Sweet]] (clockwise for more than 5 seconds during the nighttime) →
| {{MSP/HOME|0869LeC|Alcremie|size=70px}} {{pcolor|Alcremie|000}} {{color2|000|List of Pokémon with form differences#Alcremie|Lemon Cream}} {{typecolor|Fairy}}
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| {{bag/s|Strawberry Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Berry Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Love Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Star Sweet|SV}} {{bag/s|Clover Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Flower Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Ribbon Sweet|SV}} + [[File:Night Icon SV.png|40px]] Spin holding a [[Sweet]] (counterclockwise for more than 5 seconds during the nighttime) →
| {{MSP/HOME|0869MiC|Alcremie|size=70px}} {{pcolor|Alcremie|000}} {{color2|000|List of Pokémon with form differences#Alcremie|Mint Cream}} {{typecolor|Fairy}}
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| {{bag/s|Strawberry Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Berry Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Love Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Star Sweet|SV}} {{bag/s|Clover Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Flower Sweet|SV}}{{bag/s|Ribbon Sweet|SV}} + [[File:Dusk Icon SV.png|40px]] Spin holding a [[Sweet]] (counterclockwise for more than 10 seconds during the evening) →
| {{MSP/HOME|0869RaS|Alcremie|size=70px}} {{pcolor|Alcremie|000}} {{color2|000|List of Pokémon with form differences#Alcremie|Rainbow Swirl}}<ref name=rainbowswirlalcremie>In [[Generation VIII]], Milcery evolves into Rainbow Swirl Alcremie in {{g|Sword and Shield}} from 7:00 p.m. to 7:59 p.m. in real-time.</ref> {{typecolor|Fairy}}
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| colspan="2" style="{{roundybl|5px}}" | Snom is the lowest in its evolutionary line
| {{ArtP|0872|Snom}} {{pcolor|Snom|000}} {{typecolor|Ice}}{{typecolor|Bug}}
| {{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + {{bag/s|Soothe Bell|SV}} + [[File:Night Icon SV.png|40px]] [[Level]] Up (during the [[night]]time with high friendship) →
| {{ArtP|0873|Frosmoth}} {{pcolor|Frosmoth|000}} {{typecolor|Ice}}{{typecolor|Bug}}
| colspan="2" style="{{roundybr|5px}}" | Frosmoth does not evolve
|-
| colspan="7" style="background: #{{galar color light}}" | '''Introduced in [[Generation VIII]] ([[Pokémon Legends: Arceus]])'''
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| colspan="2" | Sneasel is the lowest in its evolutionary line
| {{ArtP|0215|Sneasel|form=-Hisui}} {{pcolor|Sneasel|000}} {{color2|000|Hisuian form}} {{typecolor|Fighting}}{{typecolor|Poison}}
| {{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + {{bag/s|Razor Claw|SV}} + [[File:Day Icon SV.png|40px]] [[Level]] Up (holding [[Razor Claw]] during the daytime) →
| {{ArtP|0903|Sneasler}} {{pcolor|Sneasler|000}} {{typecolor|Fighting}}{{typecolor|Poison}}
| colspan="2" | Sneasler does not evolve
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| {{ArtP|0216|Teddiursa}} {{pcolor|Teddiursa|000}} {{typecolor|Normal}}
| {{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} [[Level]] 30+ →
| {{ArtP|0217|Ursaring}} {{pcolor|Ursaring|000}} {{typecolor|Normal}}
| {{bag/s|Peat Block|SV}} + [[File:Hisui Ribbon IX.png|40px|link=Hisui]] + [[File:Full Moon Icon.png|40px]] [[Peat Block]] (during a full moon in [[Hisui]]) →
| {{ArtP|0901|Ursaluna}} {{pcolor|Ursaluna|000}} {{typecolor|Ground}}{{typecolor|Normal}}
| colspan="2" | Ursaluna does not evolve
|-
| colspan="7" style="background: #{{paldea color light}}" | '''Introduced in [[Generation IX]]'''
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| colspan="2" style="{{roundybl|5px}}" | Greavard is the lowest in its evolutionary line
| {{ArtP|0971|Greavard}} {{pcolor|Greavard|000}} {{typecolor|Ghost}}
| {{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + [[File:Night Icon SV.png|40px]] [[Level]] 30+ (during the nighttime) →
| {{ArtP|0972|Houndstone}} {{pcolor|Houndstone|000}} {{typecolor|Ghost}}
| colspan="2" style="{{roundybr|5px}}" | Houndstone does not evolve
|}{{clear}}

==In the core series games==
With the introduction of time in Generation II, time-based Evolutions were also introduced. The table below summarizes the in-game times during which [[:Category:Pokémon that evolve based on time|Pokémon that evolve based on time]] can evolve in various games across the generations.

{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{bulba color}}; border:3px solid #{{bulba color dark}}"
|-
! colspan=2 style="background:#{{bulba color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Games
! style="background:#{{day color light}}" | Day
! style="background:#{{night color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Night
|- style="background:#FFF"
! colspan=2 | {{GameIcon|G}}{{GameIcon|S}}{{GameIcon|C}}
| 4:00 a.m. - 5:59 p.m. (04:00 - 17:59)
| 6:00 p.m. - 3:59 a.m. (18:00 - 03:59)
|- style="background:#FFF"
! colspan=2 | {{GameIcon|Ru}}{{GameIcon|Sa}}{{GameIcon|E}}
| 12:00 p.m. - 11:59 p.m. (12:00 - 23:59)
| 12:00 a.m. - 11:59 a.m. (00:00 - 11:59)
|- style="background:#FFF"
! colspan=2 | {{GameIcon|D}}{{GameIcon|P}}{{GameIcon|Pt}} {{GameIcon|HG}}{{GameIcon|SS}} {{GameIcon|X}}{{GameIcon|y}} {{GameIcon|OR}}{{GameIcon|AS}}
| 4:00 a.m. - 7:59 p.m. (04:00 - 19:59)
| 8:00 p.m. - 3:59 a.m. (20:00 - 03:59)
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan=4 | {{color|{{crystal color dark}}|{{GameIcon|Bl}}{{GameIcon|W}} {{GameIcon|B2}}{{GameIcon|W2}}}}
! style="background:#{{spring color light}}" | Spring
| 5:00 a.m. - 7:59 p.m. (05:00 - 19:59)
| 8:00 p.m. - 4:59 a.m. (20:00 - 04:59)
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{summer color light}}" | Summer
| 4:00 a.m. - 8:59 p.m. (04:00 - 20:59)
| 9:00 p.m. - 3:59 a.m. (21:00 - 03:59)
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{autumn color light}}" | Autumn
| 6:00 a.m. - 7:59 p.m. (06:00 - 19:59)
| 8:00 p.m. - 5:59 a.m. (20:00 - 05:59)
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{winter color light}}" | Winter
| 7:00 a.m. - 6:59 p.m. (07:00 - 18:59)
| 7:00 p.m. - 6:59 a.m. (19:00 - 06:59)
|- style="background:#FFF"
! colspan=2 rowspan=2 | {{GameIcon|Su}}{{GameIcon|US}} {{GameIcon|Mo}}{{GameIcon|UM}}{{tt|*|This time refers to the time on the 3DS's clock}}
| 6:00 a.m. - 5:59 p.m. (06:00 - 17:59)
| 6:00 p.m. - 5:59 a.m. (18:00 - 05:59)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 6:00 p.m. - 5:59 a.m. (18:00 - 05:59)
| 6:00 a.m. - 5:59 p.m. (06:00 - 17:59)
|- style="background:#FFF"
! colspan=2 rowspan=2 style="{{roundybl|5px}}" | {{GameIcon|Sw}}{{GameIcon|Sh}}
| 6:00 a.m. - 7:59 p.m. (06:00 - 19:59)
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}" | 8:00 p.m. - 5:59 a.m. (20:00 - 05:59)
|}

{{p|Rockruff}} evolves into {{form|Lycanroc|Dusk Form}} {{p|Lycanroc}} from 5:00 p.m. to 5:59 p.m. (17:00 - 17:59) only (opposite the real time in Pokémon Ultra Moon).

===Generation II===
{{p|Eevee}} was given two [[List of cross-generational evolutionary lines|new Evolutions]] to take advantage of the changing time: {{p|Espeon}}, which it would become if its [[friendship]] maxed out during the morning or day, and {{p|Umbreon}}, which it would become if its friendship maxed during the night.

===Generation III===
====Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald====
In {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}, the time-based Evolutions are available even though there are no visible day and night periods in the overworld.

====Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen====
In {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}, however, the time function is completely absent, allowing it to be more like the [[Generation I]] games. This also makes it impossible for Eevee to evolve into either Espeon or Umbreon in these games. In order to do so, the player would have to trade Eevee to {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s|Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire}}, or {{v2|Emerald}} and have it evolve in one of those games.

===Generation IV===
In [[Generation IV]], many new Pokémon Evolutions are influenced by the time of day; for example, {{p|Gligar}} will only evolve into {{p|Gliscor}} at night.

===Generation VII===
====Pokémon Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!====
In [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]], which is set in perpetual daytime, {{rf|Alolan}} {{p|Rattata}} evolves regardless of the time of day.

===Generation VIII===
====Pokémon Sword and Shield====
In {{g|Sword and Shield}}, prior to becoming {{pkmn|Champion}}, the time of day outside of the [[Wild Area]] is determined by the player's current point in the story, not the system time. This affects both the lighting of the environment and time-based Evolutions. However, even before becoming Champion, the time of day in the Wild Area is exclusively determined by the system time.

====Pokémon Legends: Arceus====
In {{g|Legends: Arceus}}, the moon phase now play a significant role, unlike in previous installments where they were purely cosmetic. {{p|Ursaring}} can only evolve into {{p|Ursaluna}} by using a [[Peat Block]] during a full moon. A full moon is also required to activate the event for [[Task#Requests|Request 67: The Clefairy's Moonlit Dance]]. There are eight different moon phases, and the moon phase changes every two nights.

==In the side series games==
===Pokémon Colosseum===
In {{g|Colosseum}}, {{p|Eevee}} is unable to evolve into either {{p|Espeon}} or {{p|Umbreon}} due to the absence of the time feature. However, the player character [[Wes]] starts the game with both Espeon and Umbreon.

===Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness===
In {{g|XD: Gale of Darkness}}, due to the absence of the time feature, Eevee can only evolve into Espeon or Umbreon via the [[Sun Shard]] or [[Moon Shard]], respectively, a method that is not time-dependent.

==In the spin-off games==
===Pokémon GO===
In [[Pokémon GO]], there are several time-based Evolutions. Daytime in GO approximately corresponds to the time between sunrise and sunset in the player's location; nighttime corresponds to the time between sunset and sunrise. To evolve {{p|Ursaring}}, there must be an in-game {{wp|full moon}}, which typically corresponds to when there is a real-world full moon. Most {{p|Rockruff}} have two evolution options (for either {{fd|Lycanroc|Midday Form Lycanroc}} or {{fd|Lycanroc|Midnight Form Lycanroc}}), though certain rarer Rockruff have one evolution option for {{fd|Lycanroc|Dusk Form Lycanroc}}. Dusk Form Lycanroc must be evolved around sunset in the player's location.

As of July 9, 2024, the [[Move (GO)#Adventure Effect|Adventure Effect]] of {{m|Sunsteel Strike}} allows any daytime evolutions to evolve at any time, while the Adventure Effect of {{m|Moongeist Beam}} allows any nighttime evolution (including Ursaring, regardless of a full moon). Both Adventure Effects allow Rockruff to evolve into Dusk Form Lycanroc at any time.

{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background-color:#{{GO color dark}}; border:5px solid #{{GO color}}"
|-
|
{| class="roundy" border="1" style="background-color:#fff; border:1px solid #{{GO color}}; border-collapse:collapse; text-align:center"
|- style="background:#{{GO color light}}"
! colspan=2 | Pokémon
! Evolution method
! colspan=2 | Pokémon
|-
| rowspan=2 | {{MSP/GO|0133|Eevee}}
| rowspan=2 | {{p|Eevee}}
| {{candy|Eevee}}25 + [[File:GO Buddy icon.png|20px|link=Buddy Pokémon]] 10 km + [[File:Sunny icon GO.png|20px|Day mode]]
| {{MSP/GO|0196|Espeon}}
| {{p|Espeon}}
|-
| {{candy|Eevee}}25 + [[File:GO Buddy icon.png|20px|link=Buddy Pokémon]] 10 km + [[File:Clear icon GO.png|20px|Night mode]]
| {{MSP/GO|0197|Umbreon}}
| {{p|Umbreon}}
|-
| {{MSP/GO|0215H|Sneasel}}
| {{p|Sneasel}} ([[Hisuian form|Hisuian Form]])
| {{candy|Sneasel}}100 + [[File:GO Buddy icon.png|20px|link=Buddy Pokémon]] 7 km + [[File:Sunny icon GO.png|20px|Day mode]]
| {{MSP/GO|0903|Sneasler}}
| {{p|Sneasler}}
|-
| {{MSP/GO|0217|Ursaring}}
| {{p|Ursaring}}
| {{candy|Teddiursa}}100 + [[File:Clear icon GO.png|20px|Night mode]] + [[File:Special Evolution icon GO.png|15px|Special Evolution]] during full moon
| {{MSP/GO|0901|Ursaluna}}
| {{p|Ursaluna}}
|-
| {{MSP/GO|0696|Tyrunt}}
| {{p|Tyrunt}}
| {{candy|Tyrunt}}50 + [[File:Sunny icon GO.png|20px|Day mode]]
| {{MSP/GO|0697|Tyrantrum}}
| {{p|Tyrantrum}}
|-
| {{MSP/GO|0698|Amaura}}
| {{p|Amaura}}
| {{candy|Amaura}}50 + [[File:Clear icon GO.png|20px|Night mode]]
| {{MSP/GO|0699|Aurorus}}
| {{p|Aurorus}}
|-
| {{MSP/GO|0734|Yungoos}}
| {{p|Yungoos}}
| {{candy|Yungoos}}50 + [[File:Sunny icon GO.png|20px|Day mode]]
| {{MSP/GO|0735|Gumshoos}}
| {{p|Gumshoos}}
|-
| rowspan=2 | {{MSP/GO|0744|Rockruff}}
| rowspan=2 | {{p|Rockruff}}
| {{candy|Rockruff}}50 + [[File:Sunny icon GO.png|20px|Day mode]]
| {{MSP/GO|0745Md|Lycanroc}}
| {{p|Lycanroc}} (Midday Form)
|-
| {{candy|Rockruff}}50 + [[File:Clear icon GO.png|20px|Night mode]]
| {{MSP/GO|0745Mn|Lycanroc}}
| {{p|Lycanroc}} (Midnight Form)
|-
| {{MSP/GO|0744|Rockruff}}
| {{p|Rockruff}}
| {{candy|Rockruff}}50 + [[File:Dusk icon GO.png|20px|Dusk]]
| {{MSP/GO|0745D|Lycanroc}}
| {{p|Lycanroc}} (Dusk Form)
|-
| {{MSP/GO|0753|Fomantis}}
| {{p|Fomantis}}
| {{candy|Fomantis}}50 + [[File:Sunny icon GO.png|20px|Day mode]]
| {{MSP/GO|0754|Lurantis}}
| {{p|Lurantis}}
|-
| rowspan=2 | {{MSP/GO|0790|Cosmoem}}
| rowspan=2 | {{p|Cosmoem}}
| {{candy|Cosmog}}100 + [[File:Sunny icon GO.png|20px|Day mode]]
| {{MSP/GO|0791|Solgaleo}}
| {{p|Solgaleo}}
|-
| {{candy|Cosmog}}100 + [[File:Clear icon GO.png|20px|Night mode]]
| {{MSP/GO|0792|Lunala}}
| {{p|Lunala}}
|}
|}

==References==
{{reflist}}

==See also==
* [[:Category:Pokémon that evolve based on time|Category:Pokémon that evolve based on time]]
** [[:Category:Pokémon that evolve only during the day|Category:Pokémon that evolve only during the day]]
** [[:Category:Pokémon that evolve only at night|Category:Pokémon that evolve only at night]]

{{Methods of Evolution}}
{{Project Games notice|game mechanic}}

[[Category:Methods of Evolution]]
[[Category:Pokémon that evolve based on time|*]]

Barry

2022-03-16T21:03:20Z

SeanWheeler:

'''Barry''' ('''バリー''') has several referrals:
* For the [[rival]] of {{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}} and {{pkmn|Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl}}, see '''[[Barry (game)]]'''
** For the {{pkmn|Trainer}} from the anime and one of {{Ash}}'s rivals, see '''[[Barry (anime)]]'''
** For his [[Pokémon Masters EX]] counterpart, see '''[[Barry (Masters)]]'''
* For the [[character of the day]] in ''[[XY008|Grooming Furfrou!]]'' whose Japanese name is Barry, see '''[[Sherman]]'''
 
{{disambig}}

[[fr:Barry]]
[[it:Barry]]

Gift Pokémon

2021-12-01T07:00:40Z

SeanWheeler: Koichi has a separate page from Kiyo. Fixing links.

While a {{pkmn|Trainer}} is on an adventure, they may be given {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}. These Pokémon are known as '''gift Pokémon'''. Types of gift Pokémon include [[starter Pokémon]] and [[Pokémon Egg]]s. They exist in the {{pkmn|games}}, {{pkmn|anime}}, and {{pkmn|manga}}.

==Gift Pokémon given by Trainers in the games==
As with wild Pokémon, gift Pokémon will have the last four moves they could have learned by level up except under extraordinary circumstances. Normally, the player is treated as the [[Original Trainer]] of gift Pokémon they receive from NPCs; however, in some particular cases, such as {{jo|Webster}}'s {{p|Spearow}} in {{5v2|Gold|Silver|Crystal|HeartGold|SoulSilver}} and [[N's Pokémon]] in {{2v2|Black|White|2}}, the NPC is retained as the Pokémon's Original Trainer.

===[[Generation I]]===
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{red color light}}; border:3px solid #{{blue color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" | Species
! colspan="2" | Received from
! Location
! Level
! Notes
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|001|Bulbasaur}}
| {{p|Bulbasaur}}
| rowspan="4" | [[File:Oak I OD.png]]
| rowspan="4" | [[Professor Oak]]
| rowspan="4" | [[Professor Oak's Laboratory]]
| rowspan="4" | 5
| rowspan="3" | {{2v2|Red|Blue}} only [[Starter Pokémon]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|004|Charmander}}
| {{p|Charmander}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|007|Squirtle}}
| {{p|Squirtle}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|025|Pikachu}}
| {{p|Pikachu}}
| {{v2|Yellow}} only [[Red's Pikachu (game)|Starter Pokémon]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|129|Magikarp}}
| {{p|Magikarp}}
| [[File:Blaine RB OD.png]]
| [[Magikarp salesman]]
| {{rt|4|Kanto}} [[Pokémon Center]]
| 5
| Sold for {{pdollar}}500
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|138|Omanyte}}
| {{p|Omanyte}} [[Helix Fossil]]
| rowspan="2" | [[File:Rocker I OD.png]]
| rowspan="2" | Unnamed {{tc|Super Nerd}}
| rowspan="2" | [[Mt. Moon]]
| rowspan="2" | 30
| rowspan="2" | Reward for defeating the Super Nerd at the end of Mt. Moon Choice between Helix Fossil or Dome Fossil
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|140|Kabuto}}
| {{p|Kabuto}} [[Dome Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|001|Bulbasaur}}
| {{p|Bulbasaur}}
| [[File:Sabrina I OD.png]]
| [[Melanie|Unnamed Trainer]]
| [[Cerulean City]]
| rowspan="3" | 10
| {{v2|Yellow}} only If {{ga|Red's Pikachu|Pikachu}}'s [[friendship]] is at a high enough level
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|004|Charmander}}
| {{p|Charmander}}
| [[File:Bird Keeper I OD.png]]
| [[Damian|Unnamed Trainer]]
| {{rt|24|Kanto}}
| {{v2|Yellow}} only
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|007|Squirtle}}
| {{p|Squirtle}}
| [[File:Officer Jenny OD.png]]
| [[Officer Jenny]]
| [[Vermilion City]]
| {{v2|Yellow}} only After obtaining the {{badge|Thunder}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|142|Aerodactyl}}
| {{p|Aerodactyl}} [[Old Amber]]
| [[File:Scientist I OD.png]]
| Museum {{tc|Scientist}}
| [[Pewter Museum of Science]]
| 30
| {{m|Cut}} required
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|106|Hitmonlee}}
| {{p|Hitmonlee}}
| rowspan="2" | [[File:Blackbelt I OD.png]]
| rowspan="2" | [[Koichi|Karate master]]
| rowspan="2" | [[Fighting Dojo]]
| rowspan="2" | 30
| rowspan="2" | Proof of defeating the master Choice between Hitmonlee or Hitmonchan.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|107|Hitmonchan}}
| {{p|Hitmonchan}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|133|Eevee}}
| {{p|Eevee}}
| [[File:Blackbelt I OD.png]]
| Unnamed Trainer
| [[Celadon Condominiums|Celadon Mansion]] rooftop
| 25
|
|- style="background:#FFF"
| class="roundybl" | {{MSP/3|131|Lapras}}
| {{p|Lapras}}
| [[File:Silph employee I OD.png]]
| Silph Co. employee
| [[Silph Co.]] 7F
| 15
| class="roundybr" | After defeating {{ga|Blue}} at Silph Co.
|}

===[[Generation II]]===
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{gold color light}}; border:3px solid #{{silver color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" | Species
! colspan="2" | Received from
! Location
! Level
! Notes
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|152|Chikorita}}
| {{p|Chikorita}}
| rowspan="3" | [[File:Elm II OD.png]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Professor Elm]]
| rowspan="3" | [[New Bark Town]]
| rowspan="3" | 5
| rowspan="3" | [[Starter Pokémon]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|155|Cyndaquil}}
| {{p|Cyndaquil}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|158|Totodile}}
| {{p|Totodile}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|175|Togepi}}
| {{p|Togepi}} {{pkmn|Egg}}
| [[File:Professor Elm aide II OD.png]]
| Elm's [[Professors' aides|aide]]
| [[Violet City]] [[Pokémon Center]]
| 5 (after hatching)
| After obtaining the {{badge|Zephyr}} True identity of the [[Mystery Egg]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|172|Pichu}}
| {{p|Pichu}} {{pkmn|Egg}}
| rowspan="7" | [[File:Day Care Man II OD.png]]
| rowspan="7" | [[Day Care Couple|Day Care Man]]
| rowspan="7" | {{rt|34|Johto}} [[Pokémon Day Care|Day Care Center]]
| rowspan="7" | 5 (after hatching)
| rowspan="7" | {{v2|Crystal}} only One of seven [[Baby Pokémon]] inside the [[Odd Egg]] Increased chance of being {{shiny}} Knows {{m|Dizzy Punch}} (event-exclusive in the Japanese version; available during normal gameplay in the Western versions)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|173|Cleffa}}
| {{p|Cleffa}} {{pkmn|Egg}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|174|Igglybuff}}
| {{p|Igglybuff}} {{pkmn|Egg}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|236|Tyrogue}}
| {{p|Tyrogue}} {{pkmn|Egg}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|238|Smoochum}}
| {{p|Smoochum}} {{pkmn|Egg}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|239|Elekid}}
| {{p|Elekid}} {{pkmn|Egg}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|240|Magby}}
| {{p|Magby}} {{pkmn|Egg}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|021|Spearow}}
| {{p|Spearow}} [[Nickname]]d Kenya
| [[File:Webster II OD.png]]
| {{jo|Webster|Randy}}
| {{rt|35|Johto}} south gate
| 10
| Intended to be given to a man on {{rt|31|Johto}} in exchange for {{TM|50|Nightmare}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|133|Eevee}}
| {{p|Eevee}}
| [[File:Bill II OD.png]]
| [[Bill]]
| Bill's house in [[Goldenrod City]]
| 20
| After meeting Bill in [[Ecruteak City]]'s Pokémon Center
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|213|Shuckle}}
| {{p|Shuckle}} [[Nickname]]d Shuckie
| [[File:Kirk II OD.png]]
| Mania
| [[Cianwood City]]
| 15
| Intended to be returned
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|147|Dratini}}
| {{p|Dratini}}
| [[File:Dragon Clan Elder II OD.png]]
| {{OBP|Master|Dragon Tamer clan}}
| [[Dragon's Den]]
| 15
| {{v2|Crystal}} only Will know {{m|Extreme Speed|ExtremeSpeed}} if all questions are answered correctly
|- style="background:#FFF"
| class="roundybl" | {{MSP/3|236|Tyrogue}}
| {{p|Tyrogue}}
| [[File:Blackbelt II OD.png]]
| [[Kiyo]]
| [[Mt. Mortar]] B1F
| 10
| class="roundybr" | Proof of defeating the Karate King, Kiyo
|}

===[[Generation III]]===
===={{3v2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{ruby color light}}; border:3px solid #{{sapphire color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" | Species
! colspan="2" | Received from
! Location
! Level
! Notes
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|252|Treecko}}
| {{p|Treecko}}
| rowspan="3" | [[File:Birch OD.png]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Professor Birch]]
| rowspan="3" | {{rt|101|Hoenn}}
| rowspan="3" | 5
| rowspan="3" | [[Starter Pokémon]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|255|Torchic}}
| {{p|Torchic}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|258|Mudkip}}
| {{p|Mudkip}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|360|Wynaut}}
| {{p|Wynaut}} {{pkmn|Egg}}
| [[File:Expert f RSE OD.png]]
| Unnamed {{tc|Expert}}
| [[Lavaridge Town]]
| 5 (after hatching)
|
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|351|Castform}}
| {{p|Castform}}
| [[File:Scientist RSE OD.png]]
| [[Weather Institute]] {{tc|Scientist}}
| [[Weather Institute]]
| 25
| After defeating [[Team Aqua]] or [[Team Magma]] Holding a [[Mystic Water]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|374|Beldum}}
| {{p|Beldum}}
| [[File:Steven III OD.png]]
| {{Steven}}
| Steven's house in [[Mossdeep City]]
| 5
| After entering the [[Hall of Fame]] Left on his table
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|152|Chikorita}}
| {{p|Chikorita}}
| rowspan="3" | [[File:Birch OD.png]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Professor Birch]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Littleroot Town]]
| rowspan="3" | 5
| class="roundybr" rowspan="3" | {{v2|Emerald}} only Reward for completing the [[Hoenn]] [[Pokédex]] Choice between Chikorita, Cyndaquil, or Totodile
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|155|Cyndaquil}}
| {{p|Cyndaquil}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| class="roundybl" | {{MSP/3|158|Totodile}}
| {{p|Totodile}}
|}

===={{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{firered color light}}; border:3px solid #{{leafgreen color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" | Species
! colspan="2" | Received from
! Location
! Level
! Notes
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|001|Bulbasaur}}
| {{p|Bulbasaur}}
| rowspan="3" | [[File:Oak III OD.png]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Professor Oak]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Professor Oak's Laboratory]]
| rowspan="3" | 5
| rowspan="3" | [[Starter Pokémon]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|004|Charmander}}
| {{p|Charmander}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|007|Squirtle}}
| {{p|Squirtle}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|129|Magikarp}}
| {{p|Magikarp}}
| [[File:Engineer OD.png]]
| [[Magikarp salesman]]
| {{rt|4|Kanto}} [[Pokémon Center]]
| 5
| Sold for {{pdollar}}500
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|138|Omanyte}}
| {{p|Omanyte}} [[Helix Fossil]]
| rowspan="2" | [[File:Scientist FRLG OD.png]]
| rowspan="2" | {{tc|Super Nerd}} Miguel
| rowspan="2" | [[Mt. Moon]]
| rowspan="2" | 5
| rowspan="2" | Reward for defeating Miguel at the end of Mt. Moon Choice between Helix Fossil or Dome Fossil
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|140|Kabuto}}
| {{p|Kabuto}} [[Dome Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|142|Aerodactyl}}
| {{p|Aerodactyl}} [[Old Amber]]
| [[File:Scientist FRLG OD.png]]
| Museum {{tc|Scientist}}
| [[Pewter Museum of Science]]
| 5
| {{m|Cut}} required
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|133|Eevee}}
| {{p|Eevee}}
| [[File:Black Belt FRLG OD.png]]
| Unnamed Trainer
| [[Celadon Condominiums|Celadon Mansion]] rooftop
| 25
|
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|106|Hitmonlee}}
| {{p|Hitmonlee}}
| rowspan="2" | [[File:Black Belt FRLG OD.png]]
| rowspan="2" | [[Koichi]]
| rowspan="2" | [[Fighting Dojo]]
| rowspan="2" | 25
| rowspan="2" | Proof of defeating the master Choice between Hitmonlee or Hitmonchan
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|107|Hitmonchan}}
| {{p|Hitmonchan}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|131|Lapras}}
| {{p|Lapras}}
| [[File:Silph employee III OD.png]]
| Silph Co. employee
| [[Silph Co.]] 7F
| 25
| After defeating {{ga|Blue}} at Silph Co.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| class="roundybl" | {{MSP/3|175|Togepi}}
| {{p|Togepi}} {{pkmn|Egg}}
| [[File:Gentleman FRLG OD.png]]
| Unnamed {{tc|Gentleman}}
| [[Water Labyrinth]]
| 5 (after hatching)
| class="roundybr" | Show to the Gentleman after hatching to obtain information about [[Daisy Oak|Daisy]]
|}

===={{pkmn|Colosseum}}====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{colo color light}}; border:3px solid #{{colo color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" | Species
! Received from
! Location
! Level
! Notes
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[File:Menu Colo 311.png|Plusle|link=Plusle (Pokémon)]]
| {{p|Plusle}}
| [[Duking]]
| [[Pyrite Town]]
| 13
| Reward for rescuing Plusle Lists Duking as its [[Original Trainer]]
|}

===={{pkmn|XD: Gale of Darkness}}====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{xd color light}}; border:3px solid #{{xd color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" | Species
! Received from
! Location
! Level
! Notes
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[File:Menu XD 175.png|Shadow Togepi|link=Togepi (Pokémon)]]
| {{pkmn2|Shadow}} {{p|Togepi}}
| [[Hordel]]
| [[Outskirt Stand]]
| 25+
| After [[purification]], can be traded for an {{p|Elekid}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[File:Menu XD 152.png|Chikorita|link=Chikorita (Pokémon)]]
| {{p|Chikorita}}
| rowspan="3" | [[Battlus]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Mt. Battle]]
| rowspan="3" | 5
| class="roundybr" rowspan="3" | Reward for conquering [[Mt. Battle]] One per completion, only one each
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[File:Menu XD 155.png|Cyndaquil|link=Cyndaquil (Pokémon)]]
| {{p|Cyndaquil}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| class="roundybl" | [[File:Menu XD 158.png|Totodile|link=Totodile (Pokémon)]]
| {{p|Totodile}}
|}

===[[Generation IV]]===
===={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{diamond color light}}; border:3px solid #{{pearl color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" | Species
! colspan="2" | Received from
! Location
! Level
! Notes
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|387|Turtwig}}
| {{p|Turtwig}}
| rowspan="3" | [[File:Rowan OD.png]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Professor Rowan]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Lake Verity]]{{sup/4|DP}} {{rt|201|Sinnoh}}{{sup/4|Pt}}
| rowspan="3" | 5
| rowspan="3" | [[Starter Pokémon]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|390|Chimchar}}
| {{p|Chimchar}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|393|Piplup}}
| {{p|Piplup}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|175|Togepi}}
| {{p|Togepi}} {{pkmn|Egg}}
| [[File:Cynthia IV OD.png]]
| [[Cynthia]]
| [[Eterna City]]
| 1
| {{v2|Platinum}} only, after defeating [[Jupiter]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| rowspan="2" | {{MSP/3|133|Eevee}}
| rowspan="2" | {{p|Eevee}}
| rowspan="2" | [[File:Battle Girl IV OD.png]]
| rowspan="2" | [[Bebe]]
| rowspan="2" | [[Hearthome City]]
| 5{{sup/4|DP}}
| After obtaining the [[National Pokédex]]{{sup/4|DP}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 20{{sup/4|Pt}}
| Can be received immediately{{sup/4|Pt}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|440|Happiny}}
| {{p|Happiny}} Egg
| [[File:Hiker IV OD.png]]
| Unnamed {{tc|Hiker}}
| [[Hearthome City]] west gate
| 1
| {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}} only
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|137|Porygon}}
| {{p|Porygon}}
| [[File:Pokéfan m IV OD.png]]
| Unnamed {{tc|Poké Fan|Pokéfan}}
| [[Veilstone City]]
| 25
| {{v2|Platinum}} only
|- style="background:#FFF"
| class="roundybl" | {{MSP/3|447|Riolu}}
| {{p|Riolu}} {{pkmn|Egg}}
| [[File:Riley OD.png]]
| [[Riley]]
| [[Iron Island]]
| 1
| class="roundybr" | Received as thanks for clearing [[Team Galactic]] off of the island
|}

===={{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{heartgold color light}}; border:3px solid #{{soulsilver color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" | Species
! colspan="2" | Received from
! Location
! Level
! Notes
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|152|Chikorita}}
| {{p|Chikorita}}
| rowspan="3" | [[File:Elm OD.png]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Professor Elm]]
| rowspan="3" | [[New Bark Town]]
| rowspan="3" | 5
| rowspan="3" | [[Starter Pokémon]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|155|Cyndaquil}}
| {{p|Cyndaquil}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|158|Totodile}}
| {{p|Totodile}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|179|Mareep}}
| {{p|Mareep}} {{pkmn|Egg}}
| rowspan="3" | [[File:Primo OD.png]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Primo]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Violet City]] [[Pokémon Center]]
| rowspan="3" | 1 (after hatching)
| rowspan="3" | Obtained after submitting the [http://www.filb.de/games/tools/aikotoba?l=en correct password]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|194|Wooper}}
| {{p|Wooper}} {{pkmn|Egg}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|218|Slugma}}
| {{p|Slugma}} {{pkmn|Egg}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|175|Togepi}}
| {{p|Togepi}} {{pkmn|Egg}}
| [[File:Scientist IV OD.png]]
| Elm's [[Professors' aides|aide]]
| [[Violet City]] [[Poké Mart]]
| 1 (after hatching)
| After obtaining the {{badge|Zephyr}} True identity of the [[Mystery Egg]] Knows the [[Egg Move]] {{m|Extrasensory}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|021|Spearow}}
| {{p|Spearow}} [[Nickname]]d Kenya
| [[File:Webster OD.png]]
| {{jo|Webster}}
| {{rt|35|Johto}} south gate
| 20
| Intended to go to a man on {{rt|31|Johto}} in exchange for {{TM|44|Rest}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|133|Eevee}}
| {{p|Eevee}}
| [[File:Bill OD.png]]
| [[Bill]]
| Bill's house in [[Goldenrod City]]
| 5
| After meeting Bill in [[Ecruteak City]]'s Pokémon Center
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|072|Tentacool}}
| {{p|Tentacool}}
| [[File:Wesley HGSS OD.png]]
| Unnamed NPC
| [[Cianwood City]] [[Pokémon Center]]
| 15
| Given if the player has only one Pokémon in their party and none in their PC Boxes Can be repeated indefinitely
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|213|Shuckle}}
| {{p|Shuckle}} [[Nickname]]d Shuckie
| [[File:Bird Keeper Guitarist HGSS OD.png]]
| Kirk
| [[Cianwood City]]
| 20
| Intended to be returned
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|147|Dratini}}
| {{p|Dratini}}
| [[File:Dragon Clan Elder OD.png]]
| {{OBP|Master|Dragon Tamer clan}}
| [[Dragon's Den]]
| 15
| Will know the [[Egg Move]] {{m|Extreme Speed|ExtremeSpeed}} if all questions are answered correctly
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|236|Tyrogue}}
| {{p|Tyrogue}}
| [[File:Black Belt HGSS OD.png]]
| [[Kiyo]]
| [[Mt. Mortar]] B1F
| 10
| Proof of defeating the Karate King, Kiyo
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|001|Bulbasaur}}
| {{p|Bulbasaur}}
| rowspan="3" | [[File:Oak OD.png]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Professor Oak]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Professor Oak's Laboratory]]
| rowspan="3" | 5
| rowspan="3" | Reward for defeating {{ga|Red}} Choice between Bulbasaur, Charmander, or Squirtle
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|004|Charmander}}
| {{p|Charmander}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|007|Squirtle}}
| {{p|Squirtle}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|252|Treecko}}
| {{p|Treecko}}
| rowspan="3" | [[File:Steven IV OD.png]]
| rowspan="3" | {{Steven}}
| rowspan="3" | [[Silph Co.]]
| rowspan="3" | 5
| class="roundybr" rowspan="3" | Reward for defeating {{ga|Red}}, after acquiring Kanto starter Choice between Treecko, Torchic, or Mudkip
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|255|Torchic}}
| {{p|Torchic}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| class="roundybl" | {{MSP/3|258|Mudkip}}
| {{p|Mudkip}}
|}

===[[Generation V]]===
===={{2v2|Black|White}}====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{black color light}}; border:3px solid #{{white color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" | Species
! colspan="2" | Received from
! Location
! Level
! Notes
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|495|Snivy}}
| {{p|Snivy}}
| rowspan="3" | [[File:Juniper OD.png]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Professor Juniper]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Nuvema Town]]
| rowspan="3" | 5
| rowspan="3" | [[Starter Pokémon]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|498|Tepig}}
| {{p|Tepig}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|501|Oshawott}}
| {{p|Oshawott}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|511|Pansage}}
| {{p|Pansage}}
| rowspan="3" | [[File:Move Reminder V OD.png]]
| rowspan="3" | Unnamed girl
| rowspan="3" | [[Dreamyard]]
| rowspan="3" | 10
| rowspan="3" | The Pokémon received is weak against the player's starter
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|513|Pansear}}
| {{p|Pansear}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|515|Panpour}}
| {{p|Panpour}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|570|Zorua}}
| {{p|Zorua}}
| [[File:Move Reminder V OD.png]]
| Unnamed girl
| [[Game Freak]] HQ 1F in [[Castelia City]]
| 10
| Will join the player if they talk to a girl with a [[List of Nintendo event Pokémon with in-game effects#Celebi|fateful encounter]] {{p|Celebi}} in their [[party]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|564|Tirtouga}}
| {{p|Tirtouga}} [[Cover Fossil]]
| rowspan="2" | [[File:Backpacker f OD.png]]
| rowspan="2" | Unnamed {{tc|Backpacker}}
| rowspan="2" | [[Relic Castle]]
| rowspan="2" | 25
| rowspan="2" | Offered by the Backpacker in the Relic Castle Choice between Cover Fossil or Plume Fossil
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|566|Archen}}
| {{p|Archen}} [[Plume Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|636|Larvesta}}
| {{p|Larvesta}} {{pkmn|Egg}}
| [[File:Pokemon Ranger m OD.png]]
| Unnamed {{tc|Pokémon Ranger}}
| {{rt|18|Unova}} rest house
| 1 (after hatching)
|
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|138|Omanyte}}
| {{p|Omanyte}} [[Helix Fossil]]
| rowspan="7" | [[File:WorkerIce OD.png]]
| rowspan="7" | Unnamed {{tc|Worker}}
| rowspan="7" | [[Twist Mountain]]
| rowspan="7" | 25
| rowspan="7" | Offered by a Worker One random fossil per day
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|140|Kabuto}}
| {{p|Kabuto}} [[Dome Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|142|Aerodactyl}}
| {{p|Aerodactyl}} [[Old Amber]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|345|Lileep}}
| {{p|Lileep}} [[Root Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|347|Anorith}}
| {{p|Anorith}} [[Claw Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|408|Cranidos}}
| {{p|Cranidos}} [[Skull Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|410|Shieldon}}
| {{p|Shieldon}} [[Armor Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| class="roundybl" | {{MSP/3|129|Magikarp}}
| {{p|Magikarp}}
| [[File:Pokéfan m OD.png]]
| [[Magikarp salesman]]
| [[Marvelous Bridge]]
| 5
| class="roundybr" | Sold for {{pdollar}}500 Guaranteed to have perfect {{stat|Speed}} {{IV}}
|}

===={{2v2|Black|White|2}}====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{black 2 color light}}; border:3px solid #{{white 2 color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" | Species
! colspan="2" | Received from
! Location
! Level
! Notes
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|495|Snivy}}
| {{p|Snivy}}
| rowspan="3" | [[File:Bianca OD.png]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Bianca]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Aspertia City]]
| rowspan="3" | 5
| rowspan="3" | [[Starter Pokémon]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|498|Tepig}}
| {{p|Tepig}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|501|Oshawott}}
| {{p|Oshawott}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|570|Zorua}}
| [[N's Pokémon|N's]] {{TP|N|Zorua}}
| [[File:Roodwalkdown.png]]
| [[Rood]]
| [[Driftveil City]]
| 25
| Reward from Rood for defeating him [[Nature]] is Hasty
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|585{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|February|June|October=S|March|July|November=A|April|August|December=W}}|Deerling}}
| {{p|Deerling}}
| [[File:Scientist m OD.png]]
| Institute researcher
| {{rt|6|Unova}} Weather Institute
| 30
| Has its {{DL|Ability|Hidden Abilities|Hidden Ability}} ({{a|Serene Grace}})
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|133|Eevee}}
| {{p|Eevee}}
| [[File:School Kid f OD.png]]
| [[Amanita]]
| [[Castelia City]]
| 10
| After entering the [[Hall of Fame]] Has its {{DL|Ability|Hidden Abilities|Hidden Ability}} ({{a|Anticipation}})
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|138|Omanyte}}
| {{p|Omanyte}} [[Helix Fossil]]
| rowspan="9" |
| rowspan="9" | {{DL|Join Avenue|Antique Shop}}
| rowspan="9" | [[Join Avenue]]
| rowspan="9" | 25
| rowspan="9" | After entering the [[Hall of Fame]] Can be found in Rocks sold by the Antique Shop Avenue must be Rank 15 or higher
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|140|Kabuto}}
| {{p|Kabuto}} [[Dome Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|142|Aerodactyl}}
| {{p|Aerodactyl}} [[Old Amber]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|345|Lileep}}
| {{p|Lileep}} [[Root Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|347|Anorith}}
| {{p|Anorith}} [[Claw Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|408|Cranidos}}
| {{p|Cranidos}} [[Skull Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|410|Shieldon}}
| {{p|Shieldon}} [[Armor Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|564|Tirtouga}}
| {{p|Tirtouga}} [[Cover Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|566|Archen}}
| {{p|Archen}} [[Plume Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|129|Magikarp}}
| {{p|Magikarp}}
| [[File:Pokéfan m OD.png]]
| [[Magikarp salesman]]
| [[Marvelous Bridge]]
| 5
| Sold for {{pdollar}}500 Guaranteed to have perfect {{stat|Speed}} {{IV}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|440|Happiny}}
| {{p|Happiny}} {{pkmn|Egg}}
| [[File:Pokemon Breeder m OD.png]]
| Unnamed {{tc|Pokémon Breeder}}
| [[Nacrene City]] west gate
| 1 (after hatching)
|
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|564|Tirtouga}}
| {{p|Tirtouga}} [[Cover Fossil]]
| rowspan="2" | [[File:Lenora OD.png]]
| rowspan="2" | [[Lenora]]
| rowspan="2" | [[Nacrene City]] Museum
| rowspan="2" | 25
| rowspan="2" | Offered by Lenora in the Nacrene Museum Choice between Cover Fossil or Plume Fossil
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|566|Archen}}
| {{p|Archen}} [[Plume Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|138|Omanyte}}
| {{p|Omanyte}} [[Helix Fossil]]
| rowspan="7" | [[File:WorkerIce OD.png]]
| rowspan="7" | Unnamed {{tc|Worker}}
| rowspan="7" | [[Twist Mountain]]
| rowspan="7" | 25
| rowspan="7" | Offered by a Worker inside Twist Mountain One random fossil per day
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|140|Kabuto}}
| {{p|Kabuto}} [[Dome Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|142|Aerodactyl}}
| {{p|Aerodactyl}} [[Old Amber]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|345|Lileep}}
| {{p|Lileep}} [[Root Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|347|Anorith}}
| {{p|Anorith}} [[Claw Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|408|Cranidos}}
| {{p|Cranidos}} [[Skull Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|410|Shieldon}}
| {{p|Shieldon}} [[Armor Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/3|147|Dratini}}
| {{shiny}} {{p|Dratini}}
| rowspan="2" | [[File:Benga OD.png]]
| rowspan="2" | [[Benga]]
| rowspan="2" | [[Floccesy Town]]
| rowspan="2" | 1
| {{game|Black and White|s 2|White 2}} only After defeating Benga at [[White Treehollow]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| class="roundybl" | {{MSP/3|443|Gible}}
| {{Shiny}} {{p|Gible}}
| class="roundybr" | {{game|Black and White|s 2|Black 2}} only After defeating Benga at [[Black Tower]]
|}

===Generation VI===
===={{pkmn|X and Y}}====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{x color light}}; border:3px solid #{{y color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" | Species
! colspan="2" | Received from
! Location
! Level
! Notes
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|650|Chespin}}
| {{p|Chespin}}
| rowspan="3" | [[File:XY Tierno Icon.png]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Tierno]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Aquacorde Town]]
| rowspan="3" | 5
| rowspan="3" | [[Starter Pokémon]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|653|Fennekin}}
| {{p|Fennekin}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|656|Froakie}}
| {{p|Froakie}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|001|Bulbasaur}}
| {{p|Bulbasaur}}
| rowspan="3" | [[File:XY Sycamore Icon.png]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Professor Sycamore]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Lumiose City]]
| rowspan="3" | 10
| rowspan="3" | Given after beating Professor Sycamore in a battle Choice between Bulbasaur, Charmander, or Squirtle Will also give the [[Mega Stone]] for that specific Pokémon's final evolution{{tt|*|The one for Charizard is Charizardite X in X or Charizardite Y in Y}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|004|Charmander}}
| {{p|Charmander}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|007|Squirtle}}
| {{p|Squirtle}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|696|Tyrunt}}
| {{p|Tyrunt}} [[Jaw Fossil]]
| rowspan="2" | [[File:Scientist m XY OD.png|50px]]
| rowspan="2" | Fossil Lab assistant
| rowspan="2" | [[Glittering Cave]]
| rowspan="2" | 20
| rowspan="2" | Given after beating [[Team Flare]] in Glittering Cave Choice between Sail Fossil or Jaw Fossil
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|698|Amaura}}
| {{p|Amaura}} [[Sail Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|448|Lucario}}
| {{p|Lucario}}
| [[File:XY Korrina Icon.png]]
| [[Korrina]]
| [[Tower of Mastery]]
| 32
| Decides to join player after demonstrating [[Mega Ring]] {{IV}}s are 6/25/16/25/19/31, [[Nature]] is Hasty
|- style="background:#FFF"
| class="roundybl" | {{MSP/6|131|Lapras}}
| {{p|Lapras}}
| [[File:Pokémon Breeder m XY OD.png|50px]]
| Unnamed {{tc|Pokémon Breeder}}
| {{rt|12|Kalos}}
| 30
| class="roundybr" |{{IV}}s are 31/20/20/20/20/20
|}

===={{pkmn|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}====
Starting in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, for gift Pokémon in the {{egg3|Undiscovered}}, if a Pokémon with {{a|Synchronize}} is leading the [[party]], there is a 100% chance that the gift Pokémon will have the same [[Nature]] as the Pokémon with Synchronize, as long as they were not received as an {{pkmn|Egg}}.

{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{omega ruby color light}}; border:3px solid #{{alpha sapphire color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" | Species
! colspan="2" | Received from
! Location
! Level
! Notes
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|252|Treecko}}
| {{p|Treecko}}
| rowspan="3" | [[File:Birch ORAS OD.png|50px]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Professor Birch]]
| rowspan="3" | {{rt|101|Hoenn}}
| rowspan="3" | 5
| rowspan="3" | [[Starter Pokémon]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|255|Torchic}}
| {{p|Torchic}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|258|Mudkip}}
| {{p|Mudkip}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|025Ro|Pikachu}}
| {{p|Pikachu}} [[Cosplay Pikachu|Rock Star]]
| rowspan=2 | [[File:ORAS Pokémon Breeder F Icon.png]]
| rowspan=2 | Unnamed {{tc|Pokémon Breeder}}
| rowspan=2 | Any [[Contest Hall]]
| rowspan=2 | 20
| Received after competing in a [[Pokémon Contest]] if the player is {{ga|Brendan|male}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|025Po|Pikachu}}
| {{p|Pikachu}} [[Cosplay Pikachu|Pop Star]]
| Received after competing in a [[Pokémon Contest]] if the player is {{ga|May|female}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|360|Wynaut}}
| {{p|Wynaut}} Egg
| [[File:ORAS Expert F Icon.png]]
| Unnamed {{tc|Expert}}
| [[Lavaridge Town]]
| 1 (after hatching)
| Obtained with an Egg cycle value of 70
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|351|Castform}}
| {{p|Castform}}
| [[File:Scientist m XY OD.png|50px]]
| [[Weather Institute]] {{tc|Scientist}}
| [[Weather Institute]]
| 30
| Received for defeating [[Team Magma]] or [[Team Aqua]] Holding a [[Mystic Water]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|152|Chikorita}}
| {{p|Chikorita}}
| rowspan="3" | [[File:Birch ORAS OD.png|50px]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Professor Birch]]
| rowspan="3" | {{rt|101|Hoenn}}
| rowspan="3" | 5
| rowspan="3" | After entering the [[Hall of Fame]] and meeting [[Zinnia]] Choice between Chikorita, Cyndaquil, or Totodile
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|155|Cyndaquil}}
| {{p|Cyndaquil}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|158|Totodile}}
| {{p|Totodile}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|175|Togepi}}
| {{p|Togepi}} Egg
| [[File:ORAS Expert F Icon.png]]
| Unnamed {{tc|Expert}}
| [[Lavaridge Town]]
| 1 (after hatching)
| After defeating {{p|Groudon}}/{{p|Kyogre}} Obtained with an Egg cycle value of 70
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|495|Snivy}}
| {{p|Snivy}}
| rowspan="3" | [[File:Birch ORAS OD.png|50px]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Professor Birch]]
| rowspan="3" | {{rt|101|Hoenn}}
| rowspan="3" | 5
| rowspan="3" | After completing [[Delta Episode]] Choice between Snivy, Tepig, or Oshawott
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|498|Tepig}}
| {{p|Tepig}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|501|Oshawott}}
| {{p|Oshawott}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|374|Beldum}}
| {{p|Beldum}}
| [[File:ORAS Steven Icon.png]]
| {{Steven}}
| [[Mossdeep City]]
| 1
| After completing [[Delta Episode]] Holding [[Iron Plate]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|387|Turtwig}}
| {{p|Turtwig}}
| rowspan="3" | [[File:Birch ORAS OD.png|50px]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Professor Birch]]
| rowspan="3" | {{rt|101|Hoenn}}
| rowspan="3" | 5
| rowspan="3" | After entering the [[Hall of Fame]] for the second time Choice between Turtwig, Chimchar, or Piplup
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|390|Chimchar}}
| {{p|Chimchar}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|393|Piplup}}
| {{p|Piplup}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|323|Camerupt}}
| {{p|Camerupt}}
| [[File:VSTeam Magma Grunt M.png|50px]]
| Unnamed {{tc|Team Magma Grunt}}
| [[Battle Resort]]
| rowspan="2" | 40
| Holding [[Passho Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| class="roundybl" | {{MSP/6|319|Sharpedo}}
| {{p|Sharpedo}}
| [[File:VSTeam Aqua Grunt F.png|50px]]
| Unnamed {{tc|Team Aqua Grunt}}
| [[Battle Resort]]
| class="roundybr" | Holding [[Wacan Berry]]
|}

===Generation VII===
===={{pkmn|Sun and Moon}}====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{sun color light}}; border:3px solid #{{moon color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" | Species
! colspan="2" | Received from
! Location
! Level
! Notes
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|722|Rowlet}}
| {{p|Rowlet}}
| rowspan="3" | [[File:Hala SM OD.png|50px]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Hala]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Iki Town]]
| rowspan="3" | 5
| rowspan="3" | [[Starter Pokémon]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|725|Litten}}
| {{p|Litten}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|728|Popplio}}
| {{p|Popplio}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|133|Eevee}}
| {{p|Eevee}} Egg
| [[File:Pokémon Breeder f SM OD.png|50px]]
| Unnamed {{tc|Pokémon Breeder}}
| [[Paniola Ranch]]
| 1 (after hatching)
|
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|408|Cranidos}}
| {{p|Cranidos}} [[Skull Fossil]]
| rowspan="4" |
| rowspan="4" | Unnamed woman
| rowspan="4" | [[Olivia]]'s store in [[Konikoni City]]
| rowspan="4" | 15 (after reviving)
| rowspan="4" | Cover and Skull only available in Pokémon Sun Plume and Armor Fossils only available in Pokémon Moon
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|410|Shieldon}}
| {{p|Shieldon}} [[Armor Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|564|Tirtouga}}
| {{p|Tirtouga}} [[Cover Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|566|Archen}}
| {{p|Archen}} [[Plume Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|142|Aerodactyl}}
| {{p|Aerodactyl}}
| [[File:Ace Trainer f SM OD.png|50px]]
| Unnamed {{tc|Ace Trainer}}
| [[Seafolk Village]]
| 40
|
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|137|Porygon}}
| {{p|Porygon}}
| [[File:Aether Foundation Employee scientist SM OD.png|50px]]
| Unnamed {{tc|Aether Foundation Employee}}
| [[Aether House]]
| 30
| After entering the [[Hall of Fame]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| class="roundybl" | {{MSP/6|772|Type: Null}}
| {{p|Type: Null}}
| [[File:Gladion SM OD.png|50px]]
| [[Gladion]]
| [[Aether Paradise]]
| 40
| class="roundybr" | After entering the [[Hall of Fame]] [[Gladion]] will also give the player all 17 of {{p|Silvally}}'s [[Memory|memories]].
|}

===={{pkmn|Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon}}====
In Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, for any gift Pokémon, if a Pokémon with {{a|Synchronize}} is leading the [[party]], there is a 100% chance that the gift Pokémon will have the same [[Nature]] as the Pokémon with Synchronize, as long as they were not received as an {{pkmn|Egg}}.

{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{ultra sun color light}}; border:3px solid #{{ultra moon color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" | Species
! colspan="2" | Received from
! Location
! Level
! Notes
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|722|Rowlet}}
| {{p|Rowlet}}
| rowspan="3" | [[File:Professor Kukui SM OD.png|50px]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Professor Kukui]]
| rowspan="3" | {{rt|1|Alola}}
| rowspan="3" | 5
| rowspan="3" | [[Starter Pokémon]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|725|Litten}}
| {{p|Litten}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|728|Popplio}}
| {{p|Popplio}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|133|Eevee}}
| {{p|Eevee}} Egg
| [[File:Pokémon Breeder f SM OD.png|50px]]
| Unnamed {{tc|Pokémon Breeder}}
| [[Paniola Ranch]]
| 1 (after hatching)
|
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|138|Omanyte}}
| {{p|Omanyte}} [[Helix Fossil]]
| rowspan="10" |
| rowspan="10" | Unnamed woman
| rowspan="10" | [[Olivia]]'s store in [[Konikoni City]]
| rowspan="10" | 15 (after reviving)
| rowspan="10" | Cover, Skull, Helix, Claw, and Jaw Fossils only available in Pokémon Ultra Sun Plume, Armor, Dome, Root, and Sail Fossils only available in Pokémon Ultra Moon{{tt|*|Any of these Fossils can also be found at Poké Pelago regardless of version}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|140|Kabuto}}
| {{p|Kabuto}} [[Dome Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|345|Lileep}}
| {{p|Lileep}} [[Root Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|347|Anorith}}
| {{p|Anorith}} [[Claw Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|408|Cranidos}}
| {{p|Cranidos}} [[Skull Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|410|Shieldon}}
| {{p|Shieldon}} [[Armor Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|564|Tirtouga}}
| {{p|Tirtouga}} [[Cover Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|566|Archen}}
| {{p|Archen}} [[Plume Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|696|Tyrunt}}
| {{p|Tyrunt}} [[Jaw Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|698|Amaura}}
| {{p|Amaura}} [[Sail Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|142|Aerodactyl}}
| {{p|Aerodactyl}}
| [[File:Ace Trainer f SM OD.png|50px]]
| Unnamed {{tc|Ace Trainer}}
| [[Seafolk Village]]
| 40
|
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|025|Pikachu}}
| {{p|Pikachu}}
|
| Boss of Surf Association
| [[Heahea City|Heahea Branch]] of the Surf Association
| 40
| [[Pikachu variants#Surfing Pikachu|Knows]] {{m|Surf}} and holds a [[Gold Bottle Cap]] Obtained by becoming No. 1 by achieving high scores on all four [[Mantine Surf]] Courses
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|803|Poipole}}
| {{p|Poipole}}
| [[File:Soliera USUM OD.png|50px]][[File:Dulse USUM OD.png|50px]]
| [[Soliera]]{{sup/7|US}} [[Dulse]]{{sup/7|UM}}
| [[Megalo Tower]]/[[Ultra Megalopolis]]
| 40
| After defeating [[List of Pokémon with form differences#Necrozma|Ultra]] {{p|Necrozma}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|772|Type: Null}}
| {{p|Type: Null}}
| [[File:Wicke SM OD.png|50px]]
| [[Wicke]]
| [[Ancient Poni Path]]
| 60
| Near exit to [[Poni Grove]], only available during the post-game [[Wicke]] will also give the player all 17 of {{p|Silvally}}'s [[Memory|memories]].
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/6|718T|Zygarde}}
| {{p|Zygarde}} [[List of Pokémon with form differences#Zygarde|10% Forme]]
| [[File:Dexio SM OD.png|50px]]
| [[Dexio]]
| {{rt|16|Alola}}
| 63
| After catching [[List of Pokémon with form differences#Zygarde|50% Forme]] {{P|Zygarde}} in [[Resolution Cave]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| class="roundybl" | {{MSP/6|137|Porygon}}
| {{p|Porygon}}
| [[File:Aether Foundation Employee scientist SM OD.png|50px]]
| Unnamed {{tc|Aether Foundation Employee}}
| [[Aether House]]
| 30
| class="roundybr" | After completing [[Episode RR]]
|}

====[[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!|Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]]====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{Let's Go Pikachu color light}}; border:3px solid #{{Let's Go Eevee color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" | Species
! colspan="2" | Received from
! Location
! Level
! Notes
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/PE|025Pa|Pikachu}}
| [[Partner Pokémon (game)|Partner]] {{p|Pikachu}}
| rowspan="2" | [[File:Oak PE OD.png|x50px]]
| rowspan="2" | [[Professor Oak]]
| rowspan="2" | [[Professor Oak's Laboratory]]
| rowspan="2" | 5
| [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!|Let's Go, Pikachu!]] only [[Starter Pokémon]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/PE|133Pa|Eevee}}
| [[Partner Pokémon (game)|Partner]] {{p|Eevee}}
| [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!|Let's Go, Eevee!]] only [[Starter Pokémon]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/PE|129|Magikarp}}
| {{p|Magikarp}}
| [[File:None.png]]
| [[Magikarp salesman]]
| {{rt|4|Kanto}} [[Pokémon Center]]
| 5
| Sold for {{pdollar}}500
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/PE|138|Omanyte}}
| {{p|Omanyte}} [[Helix Fossil]]
| rowspan="2" | [[File:VSSuper Nerd PE.png|x50px]]
| rowspan="2" | {{tc|Super Nerd}} Miguel
| rowspan="2" | [[Mt. Moon]]
| rowspan="2" | 44
| rowspan="2" | Reward for defeating Miguel at the end of Mt. Moon Choice between Helix Fossil or Dome Fossil
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/PE|140|Kabuto}}
| {{p|Kabuto}} [[Dome Fossil]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/PE|001|Bulbasaur}}
| {{p|Bulbasaur}}
| [[File:None.png]]
| [[Melanie|Unnamed Trainer]]
| [[Cerulean City]]
| 12
| After the player has caught 30 or more Pokémon
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/PE|004|Charmander}}
| {{p|Charmander}}
| [[File:None.png]]
| [[Damian|Unnamed Trainer]]
| {{rt|24|Kanto}}
| 14
| After the player has caught 50 or more Pokémon
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/PE|053|Persian}}
| {{p|Persian}}
| [[File:VSBlack Belt PE.png|x50px]]
| Unnamed {{tc|Black Belt}}
| rowspan="3" | [[Vermilion City]]
| rowspan="3" | 16
| [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!|Let's Go, Pikachu!]] only Gift for showing him five {{p|Growlithe}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/PE|059|Arcanine}}
| {{p|Arcanine}}
| [[File:VSBeauty PE.png|x50px]]
| Unnamed {{tc|Beauty}}
| [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!|Let's Go, Eevee!]] only Gift for showing her five {{p|Meowth}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/PE|007|Squirtle}}
| {{p|Squirtle}}
| [[File:None.png]]
| [[Officer Jenny]]
| After the player has caught 60 or more Pokémon
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/PE|142|Aerodactyl}}
| {{p|Aerodactyl}} [[Old Amber]]
| [[File:VSScientist PE.png|x50px]]
| Museum {{tc|Scientist}}
| [[Pewter Museum of Science]]
| 44
| [[Secret Technique|Chop Down]] required
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/PE|106|Hitmonlee}}
| {{p|Hitmonlee}}
| rowspan="2" | [[File:VSBlack Belt PE.png|x50px]]
| rowspan="2" | [[Koichi]]
| rowspan="2" | [[Fighting Dojo]]
| rowspan="2" | 30
| rowspan="2" | Proof of defeating the master Choice between Hitmonlee or Hitmonchan
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/PE|107|Hitmonchan}}
| {{p|Hitmonchan}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/PE|131|Lapras}}
| {{p|Lapras}}
| [[File:None.png]]
| Silph Co. employee
| [[Silph Co.]] 7F
| 34
|
|- style="background:#FFF"
| class="roundybl" | {{MSP/PE|137|Porygon}}
| {{p|Porygon}}
| [[File:None.png]]
| Silph Co. employee
| [[Saffron City]]
| 34
| class="roundybr" | After defeating [[Giovanni]] at Silph Co.
|}

===[[Generation VIII]]===
====[[Pokémon Sword and Shield]]====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{sword color light}}; border:3px solid #{{shield color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" | Species
! colspan="2" | Received from
! Location
! Level
! Notes
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP|810|Grookey}}
| {{p|Grookey}}
| rowspan="3" | [[File:VSLeon.png|80px]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Leon]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Postwick]]
| rowspan="3" | 5
| rowspan="3" | [[Starter Pokémon]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP|813|Scorbunny}}
| {{p|Scorbunny}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP|816|Sobble}}
| {{p|Sobble}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! {{MSP|025|Pikachu}}
| {{p|Pikachu}}
| rowspan="2" |
| Unnamed boy
| rowspan="2" | [[Meetup Spot]]
| rowspan="2" | 10
| If the player has a [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!|Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu!]] save on their [[Nintendo Switch|Switch]] Can [[Gigantamax]], but cannot [[Evolution|evolve]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! {{MSP|133|Eevee}}
| {{p|Eevee}}
| Unnamed boy
| If the player has a [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!|Pokémon: Let's Go, Eevee!]] save on their [[Nintendo Switch|Switch]] Can [[Gigantamax]], but cannot [[Evolution|evolve]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! {{MSP|848|Toxel}}
| {{p|Toxel}}
| [[File:Y-Comm Profile Pokémon Breeder F.png|50px]]
| Unnamed {{tc|Pokémon Breeder}}
| {{rt|5|Galar}} [[Pokémon Nursery]]
| 1
| Housed in a [[Luxury Ball]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! {{MSP|880|Dracozolt}}
| {{p|Dracozolt}}
| rowspan=4 |
| rowspan=4 | [[Cara Liss]]
| rowspan=4 | {{rt|6|Galar}}
| rowspan=4 | 10
| The result of combining a [[Fossilized Bird]] and a [[Fossilized Drake]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! {{MSP|881|Arctozolt}}
| {{p|Arctozolt}}
| The result of combining a [[Fossilized Bird]] and a [[Fossilized Dino]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! {{MSP|882|Dracovish}}
| {{p|Dracovish}}
| The result of combining a [[Fossilized Fish]] and a [[Fossilized Drake]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! {{MSP|883|Arctovish}}
| {{p|Arctovish}}
| The result of combining a [[Fossilized Fish]] and a [[Fossilized Dino]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! {{MSP|004|Charmander}}
| {{p|Charmander}}
| [[File:VSLeon.png|80px]]
| [[Leon]]
| Leon's room in [[Postwick]]
| 5
| After becoming {{pkmn|Champion}} Can [[Gigantamax]] after evolving into {{p|Charizard}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! class="roundybl" | {{MSP|772|Type: Null}}
| {{p|Type: Null}}
| [[File:Y-Comm Profile League Staff F.png|50px]]
| Unnamed {{tc|League Staff}} member
| {{gal|Battle Tower}}
| 50
| class="roundybr" | She will also give the player all 17 of {{p|Silvally}}'s [[Memory|memories]].
|}
=====[[The Isle of Armor]]=====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{stamina color light}}; border:3px solid #{{stamina color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" | Species
! colspan="2" | Received from
! Location
! Level
! Notes
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP|001|Bulbasaur}}
| {{p|Bulbasaur}}
| rowspan="2" | [[File:VSHoney.png|80px]]
| rowspan="2" | {{gal|Honey}}
| rowspan="2" | [[Master Dojo]]
| rowspan="2" | 5
| rowspan="2" | After completing Mustard's first trial Choice between Bulbasaur or Squirtle Has [[Gigantamax]] Factor
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP|007|Squirtle}}
| {{p|Squirtle}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP|891|Kubfu}}
| {{p|Kubfu}}
| [[File:VSMustard.png|80px]]
| [[Mustard]]
| [[Master Dojo]]
| 10
| After completing Mustard's third trial
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP|137|Porygon}}
| {{p|Porygon}}
|
| [[Hyde]]
| [[Master Dojo]]
| 25
| After defeating Mustard at the [[Master Dojo|Battle Court]] Has its {{DL|Ability|Hidden Abilities|Hidden Ability}} ({{a|Analytic}})
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP|052A|Meowth}}
| {{p|Meowth}}
| rowspan="11" | [[File:Y-Comm Profile Hiker.png|50px]]
| rowspan="11" | Diglett Trainer
| rowspan="11" | [[Fields of Honor]]
| 5
| Find at least 5 of the Hiker's Alolan Diglett {{rf|Alolan|Form}} Has its {{DL|Ability|Hidden Abilities|Hidden Ability}} ({{a|Rattled}})
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP|079|Slowpoke}}
| {{p|Slowpoke}}
| 10
| Find at least 10 of the Hiker's Alolan Diglett {{rf|Kantonian|Form}} Has its {{DL|Ability|Hidden Abilities|Hidden Ability}} ({{a|Regenerator}}) Holding [[King's Rock]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP|037A|Vulpix}}
| {{p|Vulpix}}
| 5
| Find at least 20 of the Hiker's Alolan Diglett {{rf|Alolan|Form}} Has its {{DL|Ability|Hidden Abilities|Hidden Ability}} ({{a|Snow Warning}})
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP|027A|Sandshrew}}
| {{p|Sandshrew}}
| 5
| Find at least 30 of the Hiker's Alolan Diglett {{rf|Alolan|Form}} Has its {{DL|Ability|Hidden Abilities|Hidden Ability}} ({{a|Slush Rush}})
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP|026A|Raichu}}
| {{p|Raichu}}
| 30
| Find at least 40 of the Hiker's Alolan Diglett {{rf|Alolan|Form}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP|105A|Marowak}}
| {{p|Marowak}}
| 30
| Find at least 50 of the Hiker's Alolan Diglett {{rf|Alolan|Form}} Has its {{DL|Ability|Hidden Abilities|Hidden Ability}} ({{a|Rock Head}})
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP|103A|Exeggutor}}
| {{p|Exeggutor}}
| 30
| Find at least 75 of the Hiker's Alolan Diglett {{rf|Alolan|Form}} Has its {{DL|Ability|Hidden Abilities|Hidden Ability}} ({{a|Harvest}})
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP|722|Rowlet}}
| {{p|Rowlet}}
| rowspan="3" | 5
| Find at least 100 of the Hiker's Alolan Diglett If the player's starter was {{p|Grookey}} Has its {{DL|Ability|Hidden Abilities|Hidden Ability}} ({{a|Long Reach}})
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP|725|Litten}}
| {{p|Litten}}
| Find at least 100 of the Hiker's Alolan Diglett If the player's starter was {{p|Scorbunny}} Has its {{DL|Ability|Hidden Abilities|Hidden Ability}} ({{a|Intimidate}})
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP|728|Popplio}}
| {{p|Popplio}}
| Find at least 100 of the Hiker's Alolan Diglett If the player's starter was {{p|Sobble}} Has its {{DL|Ability|Hidden Abilities|Hidden Ability}} ({{a|Liquid Voice}})
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP|050A|Diglett}}
| {{p|Diglett}}
| 20
| Find all 151 of the Hiker's Alolan Diglett {{rf|Alolan|Form}} Has its {{DL|Ability|Hidden Abilities|Hidden Ability}} ({{a|Sand Force}})
|}
=====[[The Crown Tundra]]=====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{jump color light}}; border:3px solid #{{jump color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" | Species
! colspan="2" | Received from
! Location
! Level
! Notes
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP|789|Cosmog}}
| {{p|Cosmog}}
|
| Unnamed elderly woman
| [[Freezington]]
| 5
| After defeating {{p|Glastrier}} or {{p|Spectrier}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP|803|Poipole}}
| {{p|Poipole}}
| [[File:Y-Comm Profile Doctor F.png|50px]]
| [[Dynamax Adventure]] Attendant
| [[Max Lair]]
| 20
| Catch at least 5 [[Ultra Beast]]s in [[Dynamax Adventure]]s after unlocking the "They Came From The Ultra Beyond!" adventure.
|}

===={{g|Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl}}====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{brilliant diamond color light}}; border:3px solid #{{shining pearl color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" | Species
! colspan="2" | Received from
! Location
! Level
! Notes
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/BDSP|387|Turtwig}}
| {{p|Turtwig}}
| rowspan="3" | [[File:Rowan OD.png]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Professor Rowan]]
| rowspan="3" | [[Lake Verity]]
| rowspan="3" | 5
| rowspan="3" | [[Starter Pokémon]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/BDSP|390|Chimchar}}
| {{p|Chimchar}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/BDSP|393|Piplup}}
| {{p|Piplup}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/BDSP|133|Eevee}}
| {{p|Eevee}}
| [[File:Battle Girl IV OD.png]]
| [[Bebe]]
| [[Hearthome City]]
| 5
| After obtaining the [[National Pokédex]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MSP/BDSP|440|Happiny}}
| {{p|Happiny}} {{pkmn|Egg}}
| [[File:Hiker IV OD.png]]
| Unnamed {{tc|Hiker}}
| [[Hearthome City]] west gate
| 1
|
|- style="background:#FFF"
| class="roundybl" | {{MSP/BDSP|447|Riolu}}
| {{p|Riolu}} Egg
| [[File:Riley OD.png]]
| [[Riley]]
| [[Iron Island]]
| 1
| class="roundybr" | Received as thanks for clearing [[Team Galactic]] off of the island
|}

==In the anime==
===Main series===
[[File:Scraggy Egg.png|thumb|250px|Ash receiving Scraggy's Egg]]
[[File:Young Brock Onix.png|thumb|250px|Brock receiving Onix]]
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{dark color}}; border:3px solid #{{black color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" | Species
! Given to
! Received from
! Episode
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|025}}
| {{AP|Pikachu}}
| rowspan="6" | [[Ash Ketchum]]
| {{an|Professor Oak}}
| ''[[EP001|Pokémon - I Choose You!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|232}}
| {{AP|Donphan}} (received as an Egg)
| [[Mr. Shellby]] and [[Kimie]]
| ''[[EP228|Extreme Pokémon!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|501}}
| {{AP|Oshawott}}
| [[Professor Juniper]]
| ''[[BW003|A Sandile Gusher of Change!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|559}}
| {{AP|Scraggy}} (received as an Egg)
| [[Karena]]
| ''[[BW012|Here Comes the Trubbish Squad!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|658}}
| {{AP|Greninja}} (received as a Froakie)
| {{an|Professor Sycamore}}
| ''[[XY002|Lumiose City Pursuit!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|448}}
| {{AP|Lucario}} (received as an Egg)
| [[Nurse Joy]] of [[Vermilion City]]
| ''[[JN021|Caring for a Mystery!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|009}}
| {{TP|Gary|Blastoise}} (received as a Squirtle)
| [[Gary Oak]]
| {{an|Professor Oak}}
| ''[[EP001|Pokémon - I Choose You]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|024}}
| {{TP|Jessie|Arbok}} (received as an {{p|Ekans}})
| [[Jessie]]
| Unknown
| Prior to ''[[EP002|Pokémon Emergency!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|110}}
| {{TP|James|Weezing}} (received as a {{p|Koffing}})
| [[James]]
| {{an|Giovanni}}{{tt|*|Confirmed in Pokémon Masters EX}}
| Prior to ''[[EP002|Pokémon Emergency!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|208}}
| {{TP|Brock|Steelix}} (received as an Onix)
| rowspan="4" | {{an|Brock}}
| {{ka|Flint}}
| Prior to ''[[EP005|Showdown in Pewter City]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|037}}
| {{TP|Brock|Vulpix}}
| [[Suzie]]
| ''[[EP028|Pokémon Fashion Flash]]''{{tt|*|Returned in Beauty and the Breeder}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|113}}
| {{TP|Brock|Chansey}} (received as an Egg)
| Won from a [[Pokémon Dress-Up Contest]]
| ''[[DP033|All Dressed up with Somewhere to Go!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|764}}
| {{TP|Brock|Comfey}}
| [[Nurse Joy]] of [[Melemele Island]]
| ''[[SM102|Alola, Alola!]]''{{tt|*|Revealed in Heart of Fire! Heart of Stone!}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|154}}
| {{TP|Casey|Meganium}} (received as a Chikorita)
| rowspan="2" |{{an|Casey}}
| [[Professor Elm]]
| Prior to ''[[EP118|The Double Trouble Header]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|015}}
| {{TP|Casey|Beedrill}}
| [[Ash Ketchum]]
| ''[[EP161|The Bug Stops Here]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|160}}
| [[Wani-Wani|Feraligatr]] (received as a Totodile)
| {{jo|Marina}}
| rowspan="3" | [[Professor Elm]]
| rowspan="3" | Prior to ''[[The Legend of Thunder!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|157}}
| {{TP|Jimmy|Typhlosion}} (received as a Cyndaquil)
| {{jo|Jimmy}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|154}}
| {{TP|Vincent|Meganium}} (received as a Chikorita)
| [[Vincent]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|257}}
| {{TP|Harrison|Blaziken}} (received as a Torchic)
| {{jo|Harrison}}
| [[Professor Birch]]
| Prior to ''[[EP265|Pop Goes The Sneasel]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|257}}
| {{TP|May|Blaziken}} (received as a Torchic)
| rowspan="3"| {{an|May}}
| [[Professor Birch]]
| ''[[AG001|Get the Show on the Road!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|008}}
| {{TP|May|Wartortle}} (received as a Squirtle)
| {{an|Professor Oak}}
| ''[[AG133|The Right Place and the Right Mime]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|471}}
| {{TP|May|Glaceon}} (received as an Egg)
| [[Christopher and Jeannie]]
| ''[[AG150|May's Egg-Cellent Adventure]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|208}}
| {{TP|Brock|Steelix}}
| rowspan="3" | [[Forrest]]
| rowspan="3" | {{an|Brock}}
| rowspan="3" | ''[[HS01|A Family That Battles Together Stays Together!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|074}}
| {{TP|Brock|Geodude}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|169}}
| {{TP|Brock|Crobat}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|258}}
| {{p|Mudkip}}
| {{OBP|Stephanie|AG034}}
| rowspan="2" | [[Nurse Joy]]
| rowspan="2" | ''[[AG034|Having a Wailord of a Time]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|252}}
| {{p|Treecko}}
| [[Stephanie's father]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|001}}
| {{p|Bulbasaur}}
| {{OBP|Gilbert|HS14}}
| {{an|Professor Oak}}
| ''[[HS14|Journey to the Starting Line!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|298}}
| {{TP|Misty|Azurill}} (received as an Egg)
| {{an|Misty}}
| {{Tracey}}
| Prior to ''[[AG132|The Scheme Team]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|393}}
| {{TP|Dawn|Piplup}}
| rowspan="3" | {{an|Dawn}}
| [[Professor Rowan]]
| ''[[DP001|Following a Maiden's Voyage!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|156}}
| {{TP|Dawn|Quilava}} (received as an Egg)
| {{an|Lyra}}
| ''[[DP143|An Egg Scramble!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|468}}
| {{TP|Dawn|Togekiss}}
| [[Princess Salvia]]
| ''[[DP171|Dawn of a Royal Day!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|184}}
| {{p|Azumarill}}
| Little boy
| [[Paul]]
| ''[[DP016|A Gruff Act to Follow!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|610}}
| {{TP|Iris|Axew}}
| {{an|Iris}}
| {{OBP|Elder|Village of Dragons}} of the [[Village of Dragons]]
| Prior to ''[[BW001|In The Shadow of Zekrom!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|497}}
| {{TP|Trip|Serperior}} (received as a Snivy)
| [[Trip]]
| [[Professor Juniper]]
| ''[[BW001|In The Shadow of Zekrom!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|654}}
| {{TP|Serena|Braixen}} (received as a Fennekin)
| {{an|Serena}}
| {{an|Professor Sycamore}}
| ''[[XY004|A Shockingly Cheeky Friendship!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|650}}
| {{TP|Clemont|Chespin}}
| {{an|Clemont}}
| {{an|Professor Sycamore}}
| ''[[XY010|Mega-Mega Meowth Madness!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|650}}
| [[Chespie]]
| [[Mairin]]
| {{an|Professor Sycamore}}
| Prior to ''[[XYS01|Mega Evolution Special I]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|254}}
| {{TP|Sawyer|Sceptile}} (received as a Treecko)
| [[Sawyer]]
| [[Professor Birch]]
| Prior to ''[[XY064|Battling with Elegance and a Big Smile!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|006}}
| {{TP|Kiawe|Charizard}}
| {{an|Kiawe}}
| [[Kiawe's grandfather]]
| Prior to ''[[SM001|Alola to New Adventure!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|037A}}
| [[Snowy]] (received as an Egg)
| {{an|Lillie}}
| [[Samson Oak]]
| ''[[SM008|Lillie's Egg-xhilarating Challenge!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|763}}
| {{TP|Mallow|Tsareena}} (received as a Bounsweet)
| {{an|Mallow}}
| [[Mallow's mother]]
| Prior to ''[[SM001|Alola to New Adventure!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|727}}
| {{TP|Professor Kukui|Incineroar}} (received as a Litten)
| {{an|Professor Kukui}}
| {{an|Professor Kukui}}'s parents
| Prior to ''[[SM001|Alola to New Adventure!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|835}}
| {{TP|Professor Cerise|Yamper}}
| [[Professor Cerise|The Cerise household]]
| A friend in the [[Galar]] region
| Prior to ''[[JN002|Legend? Go! Friends? Go!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|350}}
| {{p|Milotic|Feeby}} (received as a {{p|Feebas}})
| [[Jinny]]
| [[Jinny]]'s father
| Prior to ''[[JN031|The Cuteness Quotient!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|107}}
| {{DL|List of Goh's Pokémon|Hitmonchan}}
| [[Goh]]
| [[Fighting Dojo|Karate Master]]
| ''[[JN034|Solitary and Menacing!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|133}}
| {{TP|Chloe|Eevee}}
| [[Chloe]]
| [[Pinery]]
| ''[[JN049|To Train, or Not to Train!]]''
|-
| style="background:#FFF; {{roundybl|5px}};" | {{MS|051}}
| style="background:#FFF;" | {{DL|Goh|Dugtrio}}
| style="background:#FFF;" | [[Laxton]]
| style="background:#FFF;" | [[Goh]]
| style="background:#FFF; {{roundybr|5px}};" | ''[[JN052|How Are You Gonna Keep 'Em Off of the Farm?]]''
|}

===[[Pokémon Origins]]===
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{dark color}}; border:3px solid #{{black color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" | Species
! Given to
! Received from
! Episode
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|006}}
| {{TP|Red|Charizard}} (received as a Charmander)
| rowspan=3 | {{OBP|Red|Origins}}
| [[Professor Oak]]
| ''[[PO01|File 1: Red]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|129}}
| {{TP|Magikarp salesman|Magikarp}}
| [[Magikarp salesman]]
| ''[[PO02|File 2: Cubone]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| class="roundybl" | {{MS|131}}
| {{DL|Red (Origins)|Lapras}}
| [[Silph Co.]] employee
| class="roundybr" | ''[[PO03|File 3: Giovanni]]''
|}

==In the manga==
{{incomplete|section|examples from other manga}}
===[[Pokémon Adventures]]===
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{dark color}}; border:3px solid #{{black color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" | Species
! Given to
! Received from
! Round
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|003}}
| [[Saur]] (received as a Bulbasaur)
| {{Adv|Red}}
| {{Adv|Professor Oak}}
| ''[[PS002|Bulbasaur, Come Home!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|142}}
| [[Aero]] (received as an Old Amber)
| {{Adv|Red}}
| {{Adv|Giovanni}}
| ''[[PS023|Make Way For Magmar!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|006}}
| {{TP|Blue|Charizard}} (received as a Charmander)
| {{Adv|Blue}}
| {{Adv|Professor Oak}}
| Prior to ''[[PS001|A Glimpse of the Glow]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|085}}
| [[Dody]] (received as a Doduo)
| rowspan=3 | {{Adv|Yellow}}
| [[Wilton]]
| Prior to ''[[PS042|Do Do That Doduo]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|076}}
| {{DL|Yellow (Adventures)|Gravvy}} (received as a Graveler)
| [[Brock]]
| rowspan=2 | ''[[PS049|As Gastly as Before]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|139}}
| [[Omny]] (received as an Omanyte)
| [[Misty]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|424}}
| [[Aibo]] (received as an Aipom)
| rowspan=4 | {{Adv|Gold}}
| rowspan=2 | {{jo|Mom|Gold's mother}}
| Prior to ''[[PS091|Murkrow Row]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|186}}
| [[Polibo]] (received as a Poliwag)
| Prior to ''[[PS091|Murkrow Row]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|157}}
| [[Exbo]] (received as a Cyndaquil)
| rowspan=2 | [[Professor Elm]]
| ''[[PS093|Sneasel Sneak Attack]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|468}}
| [[Togebo]] (received as an Egg)
| ''[[PS101|Teddiursa's Picnic]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|248}}
| {{DL|Silver (Adventures)|Tyranitar}} (received as a Pupitar)
| {{Adv|Silver}}
| [[Lance]]
| Prior to ''[[PS111|Tyranitar War]]''{{tt|*|Returned in Popular Pupitar}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|262}}
| [[Nana]] (received as a Poochyena)
| rowspan=4 | {{Adv|Ruby}}
| rowspan=3 | [[Norman]]
| rowspan=3 | Prior to ''[[PS001|A Glimpse of the Glow]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|301}}
| [[Kiki]] (received as a Skitty)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|282}}
| [[Rara]] (received as a Ralts)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|260}}
| [[Mumu]] (received as a Mudkip)
| rowspan=5 | [[Professor Birch]]
| ''[[PS183|Trying to Trounce Torchic]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|306}}
| [[Rono]] (received as an Aron)
| rowspan=4 | {{Adv|Sapphire}}
| Prior to ''[[PS001|A Glimpse of the Glow]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|257}}
| [[Chic]] (received as an Torchic)
| Prior to ''[[PS182|Making Mirth with Mightyena]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|321}}
| {{DL|Sapphire (Adventures)|Lorry}}
| Prior to ''[[PS192|Stick This in Your Craw, Crawdaunt I]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|357}}
| [[Troppy]]
| Prior to ''[[PS213|Bubble Bubble Toil and Azumarill]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|143}}
| {{DL|Emerald (Adventures)|Snorlax}}
| rowspan=3 | {{Adv|Emerald}}
| rowspan=3 | [[Noland]]
| rowspan=3 | ''[[PS326|Lemme at 'Em, Lapras!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|122}}
| {{DL|Emerald (Adventures)|Mr. Mime}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|226}}
| {{DL|Emerald (Adventures)|Mantine}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|389}}
| [[Tru]] (received as a Turtwig)
| rowspan=3 | {{Adv|Diamond}}
| {{Adv|Platinum}}
| ''[[PS338|Stagestruck Starly]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|411}}
| [[Don]] (received as a Shieldon)
| [[Byron]]
| ''[[PS377|Hurrah for Rapidash]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|473}}
| {{DL|Diamond (Adventures)|Moo}}
| rowspan=2 | {{Adv|Platinum}}
| ''[[PS411|Double Trouble with Dialga and Palkia I]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|392}}
| [[Chimler]] (received as a Chimchar)
| {{Adv|Pearl}}
| ''[[PS338|Stagestruck Starly]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|395}}
| {{TP|Platinum|Empoleon}} (received as a Piplup)
| rowspan=4 | {{Adv|Platinum}}
| [[Professor Rowan]]
| ''[[PS338|Stagestruck Starly]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|478}}
| {{TP|Platinum|Froslass}}
| [[Candice]]
| rowspan=3 | ''[[PS413|Double Trouble with Dialga and Palkia III]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|421S}}
| {{DL|Platinum (Adventures)|Cherrim}}
| [[Gardenia]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|417}}
| {{DL|Platinum (Adventures)|Pachirisu}}
| [[Volkner]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|500}}
| [[Bo]] (received as a Tepig)
| {{Adv|Black}}
| [[Professor Juniper]]
| ''[[PS462|Choices]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|497}}
| {{adv|Amanda}} (received as a Servine)
| {{Adv|White}}
| {{Adv|N}}
| ''[[PS485|Gigi's Choice]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|502}}
| {{TP|Blake|Dewott}}
| {{adv|Blake}}
| [[International Police]]
| Prior to ''[[PS525|The Transfer Student]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|590}}
| [[Foongy]]
| {{Adv|Whitley}}
| [[Anthea and Concordia]]
| ''[[PS524|A Difficult Parting]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|652}}
| [[Marisso]] (received as a Chespin)
| rowspan=3 | {{adv|X}}
| rowspan=2 | [[Professor Sycamore]]
| rowspan=2 | [[PS559]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|006}}
| [[Salamè]] (received as a Charmander)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|094}}
| {{DL|X (Adventures)|Garma}}
| [[Gurkinn]]
| [[PS575]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|658}}
| [[Croaky]] (received as a Froakie)
| {{adv|Y}}
| [[Professor Sycamore]]
| [[PS565]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|727}}
| {{adv|Dollar}} (received as a Litten)
| {{adv|Sun}}
| rowspan=3 | [[Professor Kukui]]
| Prior to ''[[PASM01|The Grand Entrance and Delivery Boy Sun]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|724}}
| {{TP|Moon|Decidueye}} (received as a Rowlet)
| {{adv|Moon}}
| ''[[PASM08|Going Ashore and Neighboring Akala Island]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|730}}
| {{DL|Hau|Primarina}} (received as a Popplio)
| [[Hau]]
| ''[[PASM16|A Photoshoot and the Abandoned Thrifty Megamart]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| class="roundybl" | {{MS|811}}
| [[Twiggy]] (received as a Grookey)
| [[Henry Sword|Henry]]
| [[Professor Magnolia]]
| class="roundybr" | Prior to ''[[PASS01|Ray of Light!! Through the Crack in the Sky!]]''
|}

===[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure!]]===
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{dark color}}; border:3px solid #{{black color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" | Species
! Given to
! Received from
! Chapter
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|395}}
| {{TP|Hareta|Empoleon}} (received as a Piplup)
| rowspan=3 | [[Hareta]]
| [[Professor Rowan]]
| ''[[DPA01|In Search of the Legendary Pokémon Dialga!!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|448}}
| {{DL|Hareta|Lucario}} (received as an Egg)
| {{Adv|Riley}}
| ''[[DPA10|Serious Training on Iron Island]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{MS|312}}
| {{TP|Hareta|Minun}} (received as an Egg)
| [[Kaisei]]
| ''[[DPA27|A Surprise Visit from Hareta's Father!]]''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| class="roundybl" | {{MS|392}}
| {{TP|Mitsumi|Infernape}} (received as a Chimchar)
| [[Mitsumi]]
| [[Professor Rowan]]
| class="roundybr" | Prior to ''[[DPA01|In Search of the Legendary Pokémon Dialga!!]]''
|}

===[[Pokémon Pocket Monsters]] series===
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{dark color}}; border:3px solid #{{black color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" | Species
! Given to
! Received from
! Chapter
|- style="background:#FFF"
| class="roundybl" | {{MS|175}}
| {{TP|Red|Togepi}} (received as an {{pkmn|Egg}})
| {{OBP|Red|Pocket Monsters}}
| [[Professor Elm]]
| class="roundybr" | ''[[PM062|Welcome Back, Clefairy!!]]''
|}

==See also==
{|width=100%|
| style="vertical-align:top" width=50% |
* [[List of in-game event Pokémon in Generation I]]
* [[List of in-game event Pokémon in Generation II]]
* [[List of in-game event Pokémon in Generation III]]
* [[List of in-game event Pokémon in Generation IV]]
* [[List of in-game event Pokémon in Generation V]]
| style="vertical-align:top" width=50% |
* [[List of in-game event Pokémon in Generation VI]]
* [[List of in-game event Pokémon in Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon]]
* [[List of in-game event Pokémon in Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]]
* [[Starter Pokémon]]
* [[Pokémon Egg]]
|}

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Talk:Gift Pokémon

2021-11-20T04:34:37Z

SeanWheeler: /* Fossil Pokémon */

Do Eggs count? Such as Riley giving the {{p|Riolu}} egg, and Cynthia giving a {{p|Togepi}} egg? '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 15:51, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah. I don't see why not. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 15:52, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::Don't the daycare couple also give you an egg in Gold/Silver/Crystal? [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 16:08, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, the [[Odd Egg]]. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 16:19, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::::All right then. Are you going to add that in or shall I? In fact, there are more egg Pokemon available. A list is here: [[Pokémon egg]] [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 16:20, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::I added it in and you removed it. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 16:22, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::Whoops. Sorry about that. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 16:24, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Actually, I believe [[List of in-game event Pokémon in Generation IV|this page]] and, eventually, others like it better demonstrate these Pokémon.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:42, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:Well I created this because it was on the wanted pages. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 20:30, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::And, it seems to show every gift Pokemon in all generations as taht list you gave was just event Pokemon, not gifts. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 20:31, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

==More information==
Maybe we should expand this from a list to having more information on the Pokémon. Such as levels, moves, abilities and stuff like that? [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 18:30, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:That goes into the "List of in-game event Pokémon in Generation X" article. This one is more of an overview. Not that it's done particularly well atm. More than one line of actual text would be fantabulous. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:15, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

==HG/SS Gift Pokemon==
I have got most of them from Serebii.net but does anyone know whether Kenya, the Spearow, is available again? [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 13:01, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, but the nickname is not yet confirmed as far as I'm aware. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:46, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
::Yes. Thanks for that. I always keep it and have used it in my party a lot. I don't know why. I just do. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 21:52, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== [[Pokétopia]] ==
Should Pokétopia be noted in this article. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 21:07, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:I don't know. Can you count them as gift Pokémon? Well, they are not given by a trainer. They may go into a sub-section of the Given by other trainers part or that could be sectioned off. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 19:28, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:: That is true so I don't think it should be included. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 19:30, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:::And, you don't get given them. You get them delivered by the guy in the Pokémarts. They are techincally yours and you are not given them as gifts. They may want some mention though. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 19:33, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

== Anime and Manga ==

Should Pokémon in the Anime and Manga count? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 03:02, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
:Yep. Focus on all canons. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:43, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
::Starter Pokémon need to be included as well. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 19:33, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

== Haunter ==
Should {{TP|Sabrina|Haunter}} count as a Gift Pokémon. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 19:41, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:Well, it sort of decided to stay with her, Ash didn't give it to her, so I would say no. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 19:44, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

== Obtained in Trades ==
Shouldn't Pokemon obtained in trades be here too? It would keep up with sitewise consistency as many articles have trade Pokemon under Gift Pokemon heading. They could go into another section or just link it to the other article to do with in-game trade Pokemon. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 20:08, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:I guess. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 20:28, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

== Order ==

The ''In the Anime'' Section is all over the place, but I would like other people's opinions before changing it. Should it be changed to have the Pokémon in ndex order or chronologically by episode? [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:40, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:I say by character and then in order by episode. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 20:42, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
::Okay, I ordered it. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 21:25, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

==Starter Pokémon==

I know they technically qualify as Gift Pokémon, but we already have an article about Starter Pokémon that lists them there. Is it necessary to list them here as well?--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 00:54, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

== Is Eevee considered? ==

The eevee you get on generation III, is it really counted as gift pokemon? It is just sitting there on the counter, and there was no actual trainer to give it to you.

== Bianca's Pignite ==

Okay, I just rewatched BW013. She clearly never stated ''how'' she got Pignite other than she got it as a Tepig, and trained it at home before leaving on her journey. So someone needs to state clearly ''what episode'' and ''what scene'' she states how she got Pignite. Just reverting and saying "She does say!" doesn't get the point across. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 22:38, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

== List organization? ==

I was wondering if these lists would look better with mutually-exclusive Pokemon combined into a single list item.

For example, instead of:

*{{p|Chikorita}} ([[Starter Pokémon]]) {{tt|*|The player gets a choice of Chikorita, Cyndaquil, or Totodile}}
*{{p|Cyndaquil}} ([[Starter Pokémon]]) {{tt|*|The player gets a choice of Chikorita, Cyndaquil, or Totodile}}
*{{p|Totodile}} ([[Starter Pokémon]]) {{tt|*|The player gets a choice of Chikorita, Cyndaquil, or Totodile}}

It could be:

*{{p|Chikorita}}, {{p|Cyndaquil}}, or {{p|Totodile}} ([[Starter Pokémon]])

What do you think? --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 18:57, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:I know it's an old post, but I fully support this change. I actually came to the Talk page to suggest this. [[User:Tehb0ll0x|Tehb0ll0x]] ([[User talk:Tehb0ll0x|talk]]) 23:00, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

== Fossils ==

Do fossils have their place in this section ? [[User:Chiwingum|Chiwingum]] ([[User talk:Chiwingum|talk]]) 21:27, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
:I'd say it depends. The fossils like the one in the Kanto games should be fine since they were actually given, but the other types of fossils shouldn't since those are only found in the wild. They are only really resurrected by the scientist. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 21:32, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
::Done ;-) [[User:Chiwingum|Chiwingum]] ([[User talk:Chiwingum|talk]]) 09:07, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
==Second Kalos Starter in Gen. VI==

After entering the Hall of Fame, Shauna gives you a level 5 Kalos starter of the same species as hers. This wasn't included, should it be? [[User:SamurottMaster4747|SamurottMaster4747]] ([[User talk:SamurottMaster4747|talk]]) 30 November 2013 23:28 (UTC)
:No, it shouldn't be included, as it's a trade. --[[User:NOBODY|NOBODY]] ([[User talk:NOBODY|talk]]) 01:04, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

== Organization ==

Considering that Diamond/Pearl, and Platinum are combined, while Black/White and Black 2/White 2 are separate, I think there should be something done about how this page is put together. Any thoughts? -- [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 02:22, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
:DPPt have almost identical gift Pokemon, while BW and B2W2 have almost entirely different gift Pokemon (aside from the starters). I don't see the problem with how it's set up now. Splitting up DPPt would be a redundant waste of space, and putting together BW and B2W2 would be confusing and overcomplicated. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 02:30, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

== Abbreviations ==
I... uh... kinda need someone to either teach me how to do the superscript for the game abbreviations or do it for me, under the Togepi Egg in ORAS. Need to note the difference, y'know, between Groudon and Kyogre's games. -MarioMiner

==Latia/os==
Does the Latios/Latias given in-game via the Steven Stone event count as a ''gift'' Pokemon? It isn't ''given'' by any person, but it certainly is given as a gift, and works 100% with {{a|Synchronize}}.--[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(Talk)''']] 10:19, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
:I'm not sure if it's possible for that to fit our definition of a gift Pokemon. It's possible the game's distinction may simply be, Synchronize works like that for any Pokemon that's not encountered in a battle or traded (or received from Mystery Gift or Pokemon Link?). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:23, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
::I think there is one example on this page (Ho-oh in Colosseum) which doesn't seem to received from a specific person. But if Latia/os aren't included here, won't the definition in Synchronize need to be changed to include them? (which may be a little bit clumsy :S)--[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(Talk)''']] 10:29, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
:::I see... In light of Ho-Oh, I'll just try to add Lati@s as "from" Lati@s. =P Plus, we are marking it as a Gift on [[Southern Island]]. I don't know if it'd be too bad to change the Synchronize definition if necessary, though (just less neat, since you couldn't use a nice, neat list like this). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:51, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
::::Thanks! I'll leave you to it :) --[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(Talk)''']] 10:55, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

== Game Corner Pokemon ==
Should the Pokemon that can be bought at the Game Corners in Kanto and Johto be considered Gift Pokemon? The only real difference I can think of between them and those on this list is that you can get multiple of them, compared to other Gift Pokemon that you can only get once per playthrough. Also, yes, they're not technically gifts because you buy them, but that's also true of the Magikarp from the Magikarp Salesman, which is considered a Gift Pokemon, so that shouldn't necessarily disqualify them from being considered Gift Pokemon.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] ([[User talk:Goukazaru|talk]]) 00:27, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
:Oh, as an addendum, I just realized that the Gift Tentacool in HGSS can be repeated indefinitely. So being able to get multiple of them shouldn't disqualify them as Gift Pokemon either.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] ([[User talk:Goukazaru|talk]]) 22:40, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
::It can be repeated because it is to help prevent the player from accidentally or intentionally trying to softlock the game. As HMs could not be put in PCs or anything, the player is being given a Pokémon that can learn Surf so they can head back to Olivine City. As for Game Corner Pokémon, they do not count as you have to earn or buy enough coins to be able to purchase them and can be obtained indefinitely. Gift Pokémon are almost always given away by an NPC and can only be obtained that one time, the exception being the Tentacool from Cianwood City in Generation IV. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 22:55, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
:::It just feels like the (implicit) definition of Gift Pokemon used in this article is needlessly restrictive. Going by what's included in this article the best definition of a Gift Pokemon I can come up with is "A Pokemon or Egg you receive from an NPC, potentially in exchange for Poke Dollars. It must only be obtainable once, unless it is obtainable multiple times specifically to avoid potential softlocks.". I'm not trying to be glib, it just feels strange to (effectively) say that one currency is okay (Poke Dollars) but another currency (coins) isn't, and that repeatability is only okay in this one hyper-specific case and no other.

:::Linguistically speaking, I can definitely understand not wanting to count the Game Corner Pokemon because, well, they're not gifts. But neither is the Magikarp from the Magikarp Salesman, so clearly (if confusingly) that's not an essential part of the definition of Gift Pokemon. And I don't really see how repeatability actually matters; if, hypothetically speaking, Bebe gives you a new Eevee every time you beat the Pokemon League in BDSP, would that not be a Gift Pokemon?

:::That said, I don't particularly want to argue back and forth over something so trivial, so I'm dropping this. Sorry.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] ([[User talk:Goukazaru|talk]]) 01:36, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
:::You're fine and welcome to speak your mind on it. Will try to look into rewriting the intro in the near future for a clearer definition of how Gift Pokémon work. The only reason Game Corner Pokémon cannot count is they are counted as "prizes." Upon double checking, the following trainers also give the player a Pokémon more than one time: Tentacool trainer in Cianwood City and an Unnamed worker in Twist Mountain (one fossil a day - random fossil given). Will look into how to word those two trainers and Prize Pokémon in the intro. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 15:20, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
::::I tend to agree with Goukazaru, if it helps. Defining it simply as "received from an NPC (other than by trade)" is probably easiest, and that would include Game Corner Pokémon. (Such that gift Pokémon and in-game trade Pokémon make up "R" from [[List of Pokémon by availability]].)
::::Another possibility is to define it as "received from an NPC for free/as a gift" and to exclude Magikarp and Game Corner Pokémon.
::::Ideally, however, if it's a "canon" term somehow (e.g. consistently used by guidebooks), that definition is what we should be using (referencing its origin). [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 18:01, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

== Fossil Pokémon ==

I see that my edit removing the Galar fossils has been undone. Why is this the case? There are no other Pokémon obtained from fossil revival listed on this page; for all other regions, it lists the obtain method of the fossils themselves. Why are the Galar fossil Pokémon exceptions to this rule? [[User:Tangrowth221|Tangrowth]][[User talk:Tangrowth221|2]][[Special:Contributions/Tangrowth221|2]][[Tangrowth|1]] 15:50, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
:Because Cara Liss creates new Pokémon by combining fossils of two unrelated Pokémon. She's not exactly reviving fossils but creating new species that never could have existed. They count as given by her because she created them. While the other fossils as I understand it were the fossilized remains of the Pokémon you get from the revivals. So basically, reviving Kabuto from the Dome Fossil is like taking your fainted Pokémon to Nurse Joy, while the Galar fossil Pokémon are as artificial as Porygon. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 04:34, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Game mascot

2021-02-27T00:38:39Z

SeanWheeler: /* Generation VIII */ There's no such thing as a "premake" outside of a brand of open source software. Legends: Arceus is a prequel to the remakes.

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{{archives|Category:Game covers}}
{{archives|Category:Game title screens}}
The '''mascot''' of a {{pkmn|games|Pokémon game}} is the {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} that appears on the boxart—and often label—of that game.

Early on, the mascot of a game was not necessarily relevant plot-wise, and did not even have to be met to complete the game. [[Generation III]] (with the exception of the [[Generation I]] [[remake]]s) began the trend of the game mascot being mandatory to encounter in order to progress the plot, and more recent games even force the player to catch the mascot to continue. Game mascot Pokémon are often given increased [[catch rate]]s and the ability to respawn if they are defeated in order to account for this. All game mascots are [[Legendary Pokémon]] except for games where the player starts in [[Kanto]], which feature a [[starter Pokémon]] instead and {{p|Arceus}} for [[Pokémon Legends: Arceus]].

In general, only [[core series]] games have mascots, as most [[Spin-off Pokémon games|side series and spin-off games]] display multiple Pokémon on their box covers and so none of them qualify as mascots. The only current exceptions to this are [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]] and {{ga|Detective Pikachu}}.

In most games, when pressing A or Start on the title screen the game mascot's [[Cry]] will be heard.

==[[Core series]]==
===[[Generation I]]===
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{kanto color dark}}; border: 5px solid #{{kanto color}}" width=600px
|-
! style="background:#{{kanto color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" |  
! style="background:#{{kanto color light}}" colspan="2" | {{color|{{kanto color dark}}|Original games}}
! style="background:#{{kanto color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" colspan="2" | {{color|{{kanto color dark}}|Upper game(s)}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! width="2%" rowspan="2" style="background:#{{kanto color light}}" | {{color|{{kanto color dark}}|JP}}
| width="24%" style="background:#{{red color light}}" | {{color2|{{red color dark}}|Pokémon Red and Green Versions|Red}} [[File:006Charizard RG.png|144x144px]] {{pcolor|Charizard|{{red color dark}}}}
| width="24%" style="background:#{{green color light}}" | {{color2|{{green color dark}}|Pokémon Red and Green Versions|Green}} [[File:003Venusaur RG.png|144x144px]] {{pcolor|Venusaur|{{green color dark}}}}
| width="24%" style="background:#{{blue color light}}" | {{color2|{{blue color dark}}|Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|Blue}} [[File:009Blastoise Blue.png|144x144px]] {{pcolor|Blastoise|{{blue color dark}}}}
| width="24%" style="background:#{{yellow color light}}" | {{color2|{{yellow color dark}}|Pokémon Yellow Version|Pikachu}} [[File:025Pikachu Y.png|144x144px]] {{pcolor|Pikachu|{{yellow color dark}}}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| colspan="3" | Final form of a [[starter Pokémon]]
| Only [[starter Pokémon]]
|-
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{kanto color light}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{color|{{kanto color dark}}|INT}}
| style="background:#{{red color light}}" | {{color2|{{red color dark}}|Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|Red}} [[File:006Charizard RB.png|144x144px]] {{pcolor|Charizard|{{red color dark}}}}
| style="background:#{{blue color light}}" | {{color2|{{blue color dark}}|Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|Blue}} [[File:009Blastoise RB.png|144x144px]] {{pcolor|Blastoise|{{blue color dark}}}}
| style="background:#{{yellow color light}}" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{yellow color dark}}|Pokémon Yellow Version|Yellow}} [[File:025Pikachu Y 2.png|144x144px]] {{pcolor|Pikachu|{{yellow color dark}}}}
|-
| style="background:#fff" colspan="2" | Final form of a [[starter Pokémon]]
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" colspan="2" | Only [[starter Pokémon]]
|}
{{-}}

===[[Generation II]]===
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{johto color dark}}; border: 5px solid #{{johto color}}" width=450px
|-
! style="background:#{{johto color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" colspan="2" | {{color|{{johto color dark}}|Original games}}
! style="background:#{{johto color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color|{{johto color dark}}|Upper game}}
|-
| width="33%" style="background:#{{gold color light}}" | {{color2|{{gold color dark}}|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|Gold}} [[File:250Ho-Oh GS 2.png|144px]] {{pcolor|Ho-Oh|{{gold color dark}}}}
| width="33%" style="background:#{{silver color light}}" | {{color2|{{silver color dark}}|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|Silver}} [[File:249Lugia GS 2.png|144px]] {{pcolor|Lugia|{{silver color dark}}}}
| width="33%" style="background:#{{crystal color light}}" | {{color2|{{crystal color dark}}|Pokémon Crystal Version|Crystal}} [[File:245Suicune C 3.png|144px]] {{pcolor|Suicune|{{crystal color dark}}}}
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" colspan="2" | [[Tower duo]]
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | Part of the [[Legendary beasts]]
|}
{{-}}

===[[Generation III]]===
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{hoenn color dark}}; border: 5px solid #{{hoenn color}}" width=450px
|-
! style="background:#{{hoenn color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" colspan="4" | {{color|{{hoenn color dark}}|Original games}}
! style="background:#{{hoenn color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" colspan="2" | {{color|{{hoenn color dark}}|Upper game}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| width="30%" style="background:#{{ruby color light}}" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{ruby color dark}}|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby}} [[File:383Groudon.png|144px]] {{pcolor|Groudon|{{ruby color dark}}}}
| width="30%" style="background:#{{sapphire color light}}" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{sapphire color dark}}|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Sapphire}} [[File:382Kyogre.png|144px]] {{pcolor|Kyogre|{{sapphire color dark}}}}
| width="33%" style="background:#{{emerald color light}}" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{emerald color dark}}|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}} [[File:384Rayquaza E.png|144px]] {{pcolor|Rayquaza|{{emerald color dark}}}}
|-
| colspan="6" style="background:#fff; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | [[Weather trio]]
|-
! colspan="6" style="background:#{{kanto color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | {{color|{{kanto color dark}}|Remakes}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="background:#{{firered color light}}" colspan="3" | {{color2|{{firered color dark}}|Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FireRed}} [[File:Boxart_Charizard.png|144px]] {{pcolor|Charizard|{{firered color dark}}}}
| style="background:#{{leafgreen color light}}" colspan="3" | {{color2|{{leafgreen color dark}}|Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|LeafGreen}} [[File:Boxart_Venusaur.png|144px]] {{pcolor|Venusaur|{{leafgreen color dark}}}}
|-
| colspan="6" style="background:#fff; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | Final form of a [[starter Pokémon]]
|-
|}
{{-}}

===[[Generation IV]]===
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{sinnoh color dark}}; border: 5px solid #{{sinnoh color}}" width=450px
|-
! style="background:#{{sinnoh color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" colspan="4" | {{color|{{sinnoh color dark}}|Original games}}
! style="background:#{{sinnoh color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" colspan="2" | {{color|{{sinnoh color dark}}|Upper game}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| width="30%" style="background:#{{diamond color light}}" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{diamond color dark}}|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond}} [[File:483Dialga.png|144px]] {{pcolor|Dialga|{{diamond color dark}}}}
| width="30%" style="background:#{{pearl color light}}" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Pearl}} [[File:484Palkia.png|144px]] {{pcolor|Palkia|{{pearl color dark}}}}
| width="33%" style="background:#{{platinum color light}}" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{platinum color dark}}|Pokémon Platinum Version|Platinum}} [[File:Platinum_Giratina.png|144px]] {{pcolor|Giratina|{{platinum color dark}}}}
|-
| colspan="6" style="background:#fff; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | [[Creation trio]]
|-
! colspan="6" style="background:#{{johto color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | {{color|{{johto color dark}}|Remakes}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="background:#{{heartgold color light}}" colspan="3" | {{color2|{{heartgold color dark}}|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold}} [[File:250Ho-Oh HGSS 2.png|144px]] {{pcolor|Ho-Oh|{{heartgold color dark}}}}
| style="background:#{{soulsilver color light}}" colspan="3" | {{color2|{{soulsilver color dark}}|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|SoulSilver}} [[File:249Lugia HGSS 2.png|144px]] {{pcolor|Lugia|{{soulsilver color dark}}}}
|-
| colspan="6" style="background:#fff; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | [[Tower duo]]
|-
|}
{{-}}

===[[Generation V]]===
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{unova color dark}}; border: 5px solid #{{unova color}}" width=300px
|-
! style="background:#{{unova color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" colspan="2" | {{color|{{unova color dark}}|Original games}}
|- style="background:#{{unova color dark}}"
| style="background:#{{black color light}}" | {{color2|{{black color dark}}|Pokémon Black and White Versions|Black}} [[File:643Reshiram.png|144px]] {{pcolor|Reshiram|{{black color dark}}}}
| style="background:#{{white color light}}" | {{color2|{{white color dark}}|Pokémon Black and White Versions|White}} [[File:644Zekrom.png|144px]] {{pcolor|Zekrom|{{white color dark}}}}
|-
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | Two members of the [[Tao trio]]
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#{{unova color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | {{color|{{unova color dark}}|Sequels}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="background:#{{black 2 color light}}" | {{color2|{{black 2 color dark}}|Pokémon Black and White Versions 2|Black 2}} [[File:646Kyurem-Black3.png|144px]] {{color2|{{black 2 color dark}}|List of Pokémon with form differences#Kyurem|Black}} {{pcolor|Kyurem|{{black 2 color dark}}}}
| style="background:#{{white 2 color light}}" | {{color2|{{white 2 color dark}}|Pokémon Black and White Versions 2|White 2}} [[File:646Kyurem-White3.png|144px]] {{color2|{{white 2 color dark}}|List of Pokémon with form differences#Kyurem|White}} {{pcolor|Kyurem|{{white 2 color dark}}}}
|-
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | [[List of Pokémon with form differences|Formes]] of {{p|Kyurem}}, the third member of the [[Tao trio]]
|-
|}

{{-}}

===[[Generation VI]]===
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{kalos color dark}}; border: 5px solid #{{kalos color}}" width=300px
|-
!! style="background:#{{kalos color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" colspan="2" | {{color|{{kalos color dark}}|Original games}}
|- style="background:#{{Y color dark}}"
| style="background:#{{X color light}}" | {{color2|{{X color dark}}|Pokémon X and Y|X}} [[File:716Xerneas.png|144px]] {{pcolor|Xerneas|{{X color dark}}}}
| style="background:#{{Y color light}}" | {{color2|{{Y color dark}}|Pokémon X and Y|Y}} [[File:717Yveltal.png|144px]] {{pcolor|Yveltal|{{Y color dark}}}}
|-
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | Two members of the [[aura trio]]
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#{{hoenn color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | {{color|{{hoenn color dark}}|Remakes}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="background:#{{omega ruby color light}}" | {{color2|{{omega ruby color dark}}|Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire|Omega Ruby}} [[File:383Groudon-Primal 2.png|144px]] {{color2|{{omega ruby color dark}}|Primal Reversion|Primal}} {{pcolor|Groudon|{{omega ruby color dark}}}}
| style="background:#{{alpha sapphire color light}}" | {{color2|{{alpha sapphire color dark}}|Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire|Alpha Sapphire}} [[File:382Kyogre-Primal 2.png|144px]] {{color2|{{alpha sapphire color dark}}|Primal Reversion|Primal}} {{pcolor|Kyogre|{{alpha sapphire color dark}}}}
|-
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | Rival members of the [[weather trio]]
|-
|}
{{-}}

===[[Generation VII]]===
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{alola color dark}}; border:5px solid #{{alola color}}" width=300px
|-
! style="background:#{{alola color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" colspan="2" | {{color|{{alola color dark}}|Original games}}
! style="background:#{{alola color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" colspan="2" " | {{color|{{alola color dark}}|Upper games}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="background:#{{sun color light}}" | {{color2|{{sun color dark}}|Pokémon Sun and Moon|Sun}} [[File:Solgaleo.png|144px]] {{pcolor|Solgaleo|{{sun color dark}}}}
| style="background:#{{moon color light}}" | {{color2|{{moon color dark}}|Pokémon Sun and Moon|Moon}} [[File:Lunala.png|144px]] {{pcolor|Lunala|{{moon color dark}}}}
| style="background:#{{ultra sun color light}}" | {{color2|{{ultra sun color dark}}|Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun}} [[File:800Necrozma-Dusk Mane 2.png|144px]] {{color2|{{ultra sun color dark}}|List of Pokémon with form differences#Necrozma|Dusk Mane}} {{pcolor|Necrozma|{{ultra sun color dark}}}}
| style="background:#{{ultra moon color light}}" | {{color2|{{ultra moon color dark}}|Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Moon}} [[File:800Necrozma-Dawn Wings 2.png|144px]] {{color2|{{ultra moon color dark}}|List of Pokémon with form differences#Necrozma|Dawn Wings}} {{pcolor|Necrozma|{{ultra moon color dark}}}}
|-
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | Two members of the [[Light trio]]
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | Forms of {{p|Necrozma}}, the third member of the [[Light trio]]
|-
!! style="background:#{{kanto color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" colspan="4" | {{color|{{kanto color dark}}|Remakes}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="background:#{{Let's Go Pikachu color light}}" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{Let's Go Pikachu color dark}}|Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!|Let's Go, Pikachu!}} [[File:025Pikachu LG.png|144px]] {{pcolor|Pikachu|{{Let's Go Pikachu color dark}}}}
| style="background:#{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}|Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!|Let's Go, Eevee!}} [[File:133Eevee LG.png|144px]] {{pcolor|Eevee|{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}}}
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| colspan="4" style="background:#fff; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{ga|Partner Pokémon}}
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===[[Generation VIII]]===
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! style="background:#{{galar color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" colspan="2" | {{color|{{galar color dark}}|Original games}}
! style="background:#{{galar color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{galar color dark}}|Pokémon Sword and Shield Expansion Pass|Expansion Pass}}
|- style="background:#{{galar color dark}}"
| style="background:#{{sword color light}}" | {{color2|{{sword color dark}}|Pokémon Sword and Shield|Sword}} [[File:Zacian 2.png|x144px]] {{pcolor|Zacian|{{sword color dark}}}}
| style="background:#{{shield color light}}" | {{color2|{{shield color dark}}|Pokémon Sword and Shield|Shield}} [[File:Zamazenta 2.png|x144px]] {{pcolor|Zamazenta|{{shield color dark}}}}
| style="background:#{{stamina color light}}" | {{color2|{{stamina color dark}}|The Isle of Armor}} [[File:892Urshifu-Single_Strike.png|x144px]] {{pcolor|Urshifu|{{stamina color dark}}}}
| style="background:#{{jump color light}}" | {{color2|{{jump color dark}}|The Crown Tundra}} [[File:898Calyrex.png|x144px]] {{pcolor|Calyrex|{{jump color dark}}}}
|-
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | Heroes of Galar
| style="background:#fff" | The "secret armor" of the Master Dojo
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | King of Bountiful Harvests
|-
! colspan="6" style="background:#{{sinnoh color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" colspan="2"| {{color|{{sinnoh color dark}}|Remakes}}
! colspan="6" style="background:#{{sinnoh color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" colspan="2"| {{color|{{sinnoh color dark}}|Prequel}}
|- style="background:#{{sinnoh color dark}}"
| width="30%" style="background:#{{diamond color light}}" | {{color2|{{diamond color dark}}|Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl|Brilliant Diamond}} [[File:483Dialga_BDSP.png|144px]] {{pcolor|Dialga|{{diamond color dark}}}}
| width="30%" style="background:#{{pearl color light}}" | {{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl|Shining Pearl}} [[File:484Palkia_BDSP.png|144px]] {{pcolor|Palkia|{{pearl color dark}}}}
| width="30%" style="background:#{{Platinum color light}}" colspan="2"| {{color2|{{platinum color dark}}|Pokémon Legends: Arceus|Legends: Arceus}} [[File:493Arceus.png|144px]] {{pcolor|Arceus|{{platinum color dark}}}}
|-
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | Two members of the [[Creation trio]]
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | Leader of the [[Creation trio]]
|-
|}

==Side series==
====[[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]]====
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| style="background:#{{XD color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}} padding-top:6px" | [[File:249Lugia-Shadow XD.png|192px]] {{color2|{{XD color dark}}|Shadow Lugia}}
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| style="background:#fff; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | Main [[Shadow Pokémon]] opponent
|}

==Spin-off games==
===={{ga|Detective Pikachu}}====
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| style="background:#{{electric color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}} padding-top:6px" | [[File:Detective_Pikachu_artwork_2.png|192px]] {{color2|{{electric color dark}}|Detective Pikachu (character)|Detective Pikachu}}
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | Title character
|}

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==See also==
* [[Special Pokémon]]

{{Project Games notice}}

[[Category:Fanon terminology]]
[[Category:Game mascots|*]]
[[Category:Pokémon groupings]]

[[de:Cover-Pokémon]]
[[it:Mascotte dei giochi Pokémon]]
[[zh:封面寶可夢]]

Talk:Version-exclusive Pokémon

2020-11-30T22:17:30Z

SeanWheeler: /* Renaming back to Version-Exclusive? */

<big><big><big>Hey guys!</big></big></big>

Remember how this page used to be about how certain Pokémon were ''missing'' from certain games, and how it confused the hell out of everyone? Yes? Well, thanks to [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|The Trom]]'s efforts, we've hopefully fixed that. The page now lists Pokémon and marks which versions they are or aren't available in. For more information, check out [[/Archive1#How about this?|this discussion]]. ---[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 12:15, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

==Archives==
*[[/Archive1|Archive 1]] (discussions from before the switch/October 5, 2006 – January 4, 2009)

==New discussion==
Looks good but even the ''not available'' boxes for the mystery dungeons link to the pages.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 16:43, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:That was a design technique of {{u|Jioruji Derako}}. It's the same for all boxes on this page. Available or not available, they all link to the page. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 21:07, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::Coulda' sworn it wasn't like that before but if they're all like that then it's OK. Some other templates that use a similar system might have to be changed though. (ie. Move Tutors)--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 23:23, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

== G instead of B ==

Anyone have any problems with it as it is? The note is clear enough that Green means US Blue and Blue means the Japanese one? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:07, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
:This is great. The entire article is 100x better. The design just feels more welcoming. I'm ashamed I didn't think of this style before. As for the G/B thing, I think it's rather clear. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 15:54, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

== Emerald safari zone vs. Birds and Regis in Pt ==

Why is it we have the Emerald safari zone ones outside of the table, yet for certain Pokémon in Platinum, we mention them when both groups require the national dex?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 22:02, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:We can blame me for that. Because of the approx. 30 Emerald exclusives, I decided just to list them, or the table would be larger than the warnings previously here. Platinum didn't have as many exclusives as Emerald so I put them in the table. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 08:46, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

== Possible other tables ==

It might be helpful to have a table to show Pokemon completely unavailable in certain generations without trading with other generations (e.g. Mewtwo for Generation II, or Larvitar for Generation III). Perhaps even a table of those Pokemon to appear in every version of the game without trading might be interesting, if somewhat less useful. I admit, I can't really be bothered to do this myself at the moment, but I could later. [[User:Idantlol|Idantlol]] 22:25, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:The reason we haven't got these listed (particularly for Gen III) is because of the sheer amount of Pokemon excluded in the Hoenn games (see [[HDex]]). And typically, starters and legnedaries cannot be obtained in other games than their originals. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:17, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
::Even so, it isn't an impossible task to list 186 pokemon (if we include Jirachi and Deoxys). If the worst comes to the worst, you could just make a separate page for it. As it is, it can be quite a hassle finding information on where some pokemon are actually found. [[User:Idantlol|Idantlol]] 18:07, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

== Seedot in Sapphire and Lotad in Ruby? ==
The article claims the following: ''"Surskit can be found in Pokémon Emerald, but only when the TV says they're swarming somewhere. Through the same way, Lotad and Seedot can be found in Ruby and Sapphire, respectively."'' The second doesn't seem right to me. I have played pokémon Sapphire for over 700 hours (I know, call me lifeles) and I have never met any Seedot swarm through the tv (I did see surskit and skitty swarms however). Also I looked it up on internet and I didn't find any info about seedot being catchable in Sapphire or Lotad in ruby. Even great sites like serebii.net never mention it and just say that the only way to get seedot in sapphire and lotad in ruby is by trading them from the other version. [[User:Mijzelffan|Mijzelffan]] 17:55, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:You need to mix records with someone from the other game. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 02:47, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
::I have done that like fifty times with ruby players, sapphire players and emerald players. Can't someone upload a screenshot or a link to a video for evidence or something? [[User:Mijzelffan|Mijzelffan]] 11:28, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

== HG/SS Version Exclusives ==

Hey I was browsing around the Net and Serebii just made a list of the version exclusive Pokémon. I don't know set the chart of them up. Could omeone do it, or tell me how? ♪♪[[User:ShinyPachirisu|Shiny]] [[User Talk:ShinyPachirisu|Pachirisu]] :) ♪♪ 19:44, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Any news if they are going to pull the American swith-a-roo with Phanpy and Teddiursa like in Generation II?[[User:Zabbethx|Zabbethx]] 21:22, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
:None yet. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:24, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

== Generation II: Japanese or American list? ==

The Gen II section opens with a comment explaining that the Pokémon exclusive to either Gold or Silver are reversed between version when you compare the Japanese to the American. However, it doesn't point out which nation's list is presented... Help? [[User:Doctorhook|Doctorhook]] 01:19, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
:it quite obviously states that "in the Japanese versions, they ae the opposite" which must mean the lists are according to the English versions. after all, this is an English wiki. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:27, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

==Here's an Idea==
Even though that Latios and Latias are not true version exclusives because of the hacking or events, people can mistake them as version exclusives, but my plan is to mention this in a short paragraph with the intention of reducing confusion, but I need some input to see what other people think of this, though I do know what I will write about this. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 20:55, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

==Missing from the List==
I don't know for sure, but i think Mr. Mime and Mime Jr. are exclusive to Diamond version (they may be in platinum, i'm not sure), but i know they're not in pearl. At the same time, Bonsley and Suduwoodo are only in Pearl Version(again, i don't know about platinum) I hope this helps:) {{unsigned|Canus albinus}}
:You can get the respective pre-evos in the Trophy Garden... and Mr. Mime is in Platinum, it's somewhere around Route 218. Sudowoodo's on 221 in Platinum. So they're in all the games. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 16:13, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

== Pokewalker ==

On the event {{pw|Rally}} and {{pw|Sightseeing}} courses, the player can get {{p|Sableye}} and {{p|Meowth}} respectively on both versions, though these are normally exclusives. Should this be mentioned? [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 13:12, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
:I doubt it. It's the case for lots of Pokéwalker courses... in fact, you can even get Pokémon you shouldn't be able to catch until after the National Dex. Maybe mentioning how the Pokéwalker changes the availability of Pokémon, but I wouldn't go beyond that. [[User:Jazzmoth|ʝɑzzmotɦ]] [[User talk:Jazzmoth|❝❞]][[Special:Contributions/Jazzmoth|✎]] 16:14, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

==Pokémon White==

Isn't the BW version exclusive list a bit... big? It seems kinda confusing. Does anyone think it would be a good idea to have a separate list for all the White Forest exclusives? We don't seem to include Pokémon that are found in Emerald's Safari Zone in Ruby and Sapphire's list. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 02:48, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

== Definition of version-exclusive Pokémon ==

Version-exclusive Pokémon are Pokémon which can be obtained in one game but not another when the games are in the same pair/triplet, without intervention from another game other than another of the same game. Events and the Dream World are not counted in this. It has nothing to do with wild availability. Cranidos and Shieldon are version exclusive, as are Persian and Primeape, despite not being available in the wild. Glitches are excluded completely. If you want to debate this, reply below. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:01, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
: Strongly agreed. Quite honestly, I'm not sure Monmen and Churine should even be listed as such, as you can get the other one via an in-game trade. [[User:Unknowen900|Unknowen900]] 06:41, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
::I agree, the same goes for Volbeat, which can be obtained in White by breeding Illumise. Is it OK to remove them? '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 08:56, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
:::If we remove Monmen and Churine and leave a note, the same should go for Volbeat. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:03, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
::::I'd just like to note that I noticed a typo I made in the original definition, so have changed it. Basically, it means that trade evolutions are OK because you can interact with a game as long as it is the same game version. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:07, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

==If you're insisting on having a whole table for White Forest Exclusive Pokémon...==

At least fix it so that the field for Pokémon Black doesn't show up in the table. It's pretty much unneeded otherwise. Also, add one for Emerald's Safari Zone exclusives as well. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 20:05, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
:Okay, I added a table for Emerald's exclusives, but it's still not looking too good with those redundant fields for Ruby and Sapphire in them... [[User:PDL|PDL]] 20:35, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
::I think long lists look better in tables than in text. If you don't like the template being redundant, you can use something like [[Pokémon Black and White Versions#Version-exclusive Pokémon|the one on BW's page]], which is where I got the base code from, from where I then modified the list to look like all the others on this page. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:56, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

== Colosseum/XD Version Exclusives ==

Should a list for Pokemon ''only'' available in these games be added? Basically, Espeon, Umbreon, Ho-Oh, {{tt|Lugia|and Shadow Lugia I suppose}} and Bonsly. I don't know if there are any others. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 22:11, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

:Bonsly shouldn't count because it cannot be caught, and only Ho-Oh and Lugia should matter since Espeon and Umbreon can still be found in the Gen. III handhelds. Just with different methods is all. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 22:14, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
::Fair enough on Bonsly, but Espeon & Umbreon cannot be found in the handhelds ''at all'' without trading with another version, as Eevee is only available in FireRed/LeafGreen, and cannot evolve into those two in those two due to the removal of Time. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 22:21, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
:::I am thinking of finding a way if possible to modify the locations on their pages to display this fact like "Trade as Eevee from FireRed and LeafGreen", but I haven't had much luck on that. Other than that I agree with your idea on that.-[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 22:30, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

== Volbeat, Monmen and Churine ==

Why were they added back? They are ''not'' version exclusives. They are obtaiable in both Black & White. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 10:59, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
:My mistake, I got mixed up with the Black & White page. But they should still be removed, since they are not version exclusives. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 11:06, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

== Genesect ==

The Shock Drive and Burn Drive are exclusive to Black, while the Chill Drive and Douse Drive are exclusive to White, thus making Genesects "forms" version exclusives (without trading the items), but should they be included here? '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 21:21, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
:That is a very interesting point. Maybe since Genesect is not a true "Version Exclusive", but it's form is diffrent it should be mentioned on one of the trivia points below the version exclusive list for Generation V. That's just my idea. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 21:27, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

== Mystery Dungeon ==

Is it possible to evolve Porygon in Red Rescue Team? If yes, then Porygon2 isn't fully version-exclusive, since in Red Rescue Team it could be obtained by evolution (if it's possible to evolve Porygon in that game). [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 08:14, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
:Porygon can be evolved, but Porygon 2 still counts as a version exclusive because either way you need a wondermail code in order to get one of them in the other version. Just like evolved main series Pokémon are listed, despite being able to evolve them from their pre-evolved forms - because a trade must be done at some point to get them. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:04, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

== M14 ==

It has version exclusives, should they be added? Since there wouldn't be much point in making a page only for anime exclusives.

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'''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 18:18, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
:I think this would be a good idea. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:25, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

== Clamperl's Evolved Forms ==
You have to evolve Clamperl by TRADING. With an item. A DeepSeaTooth being traded with it will cause it to evolve into a Huntail, A DeepSeaScale Gorebyss. [[User:KirbyRider|KirbyRider]] 23:20, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
== Headline text ==

== Sawk and Throh ==

Following the links on their pages to each location they are allegedly available in, each lists Sawk as Black-exclusive and Throh as White-exclusive. There is no other information on how to obtain them in the Game Locations sections of their pages. If this is true, they should be added to the exclusives list. Otherwise, something needs to change on their pages. [[User:AsbestosBill|AsbestosBill]] 20:02, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
:Yeah, hang on, Sawk and Throh are version exclusive. However, this article does not state this and nor do their respective articles. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 20:16, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
::I've made the necessary changes to the three articles. I am 100% sure they are version exclusive as I have never found a wild Throh in my Black and each Route article and location article lists them as version exclusive. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 20:26, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
:::Dammit, sorry guys, I missed the parts about them being found in rustling grass and have undone my edits. >_> ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 20:31, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
::::You know, we should have a section for Pokémon with differing encounter rates in each version, like Nageki and Dakegi have. Or give it its own page. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 21:06, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

== Scyther and Pinsir ==

This page says that Scyther and Pinsir are both available in Blue Version, but both of their pages say they are unavailable in the Japanese Blue. Which is correct? [[User:Pokemega32|Pokemega32]] 06:36, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
:Just noticed the same is true for Magmar. The page for Blue reflects Scyther and Pinsir being available in Blue, but Magmar being unobtainable [[User:Pokemega32|Pokemega32]] 06:39, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
::English Blue version exclusives are the same as Japan's Green Version. Scyther, Pinsir and Magmar are all available in the Japanes Blue Version--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:51, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
:::Are you completely sure about that? Both Magmar's page and the Blue Version page say that Magmar is not available. I just want to be sure there isn't any misinformation on here. [[User:Pokemega32|Pokemega32]] 08:05, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
::::Oh. Well in that case... *fixes error*--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:21, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

== Latios/Latias in RS ==

I'm wondering if some note should be made about those two? Technically you can obtain both in one version, however, this requires the use of an outside event. The same goes for HGSS, actually. It doesn't have to be added to the table, per se, I just thought it might be worth noting. But maybe people feel otherwise? [[User:Tina|platinatina]] ([[User talk:Tina|talk]]) 00:19, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

== Seedot, Lotad and Surskit vs. Regice and Registeel. ==

So how it goes? Both require interaction with another game, and I just realized it's a {{tt|mess for these|The availability lists them normally, with (S)warm and E(volve)}}, because in the first two' articles they're version exclusive (Surskit is Emerald's swarm, so it's a different tale), but for the last two, it doesn't say that. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 12:27, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

== Move to "Game-Exclusive Pokémon" ==

I don't necessarily agree with this specific name as this will make it sound like you can only obtain that Pokémon in that specific game and none of the others. But it changes from generation to generation. That was just my initial thought on the matter. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 15:02, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
:I agree that "game-exclusive Pokémon" is misleading. It may be more cumbersome, but I'd suggest some variation on "Pokémon that do not appear in all games in a group" (since, for example, it's not just generations; we also separate RSE from FRLG, DPPt from HGSS, and BW from B2W2). [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:27, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
::I suggested the move because it appears to be [http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-us/pokemon_101/game_exclusive/ the official name]. I'd rather keep it at this unofficial name than try and create some weird conjecture from "Pokémon that do not appear in all games in a group". --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 19:37, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
:::Ah! Didn't see that there was an official name. Well then, yes, I can't conceive of a legitimate argument against moving it eventually. It's just a matter of how long we want to wait to observe the official usage to ensure that it's not just a slapdash term on that page that is replaced by something else on another page. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:41, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
::::Can anyone find a second source that uses this phrase? If so then I would be in favor of the move since the word "Version" is already outdated by now (no Gen VI game uses the term anymore). [[User:Blueapple128|Blueapple128]] ([[User talk:Blueapple128|talk]]) 22:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

==Friend Safari==

Should it be noted that in X and Y, version exclusives can be found in the opposite version in the correct type Friend Safari sometimes?[[User:BraviaryGirl23|BraviaryGirl23]] ([[User talk:BraviaryGirl23|talk]]) 00:19, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

== There's a typo ==

In the Generation II section, it says that "Ekans and Sandslash can be obtained in Silver and Gold respectively as prizes from Goldenrod Game Corner". The prize in Gold is Sandshrew, not Sandslash.

[[User:AllAreEqual|AllAreEqual]] ([[User talk:AllAreEqual|talk]]) 19:42, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
:Fixed. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 20:27, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

== Kakuna can only be found in Wild for X, and Metapod can only be found for Y ==

Save for Friend Safari, of course, but that only counts for Kakuna. This should be listed here, alongside the version exclusives in Friend Safari. [[User:Trainer Yusuf|Trainer Yusuf]] ([[User talk:Trainer Yusuf|talk]]) 18:26, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

== Gen I In-Game Trading Pokemon ==

Of the four Gen I Pokemon only available through trading (Gengar, Alakazam, Golem, and Machamp), you can get Golem and Gengar in the Japanese Blue Version and you can get Machamp in all releases of Pokemon Yellow, all through in-game trades.

Should someone add those three Pokemon to the Gen I list, since they technically are exclusively available in those games? [[User:PalletTownie|PalletTownie]] ([[User talk:PalletTownie|talk]]) 20:25, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

==Example error==
The example at the top of the page currently states that players of Pokemon Ruby will be unable to obtain Mawile. I'd change it myself, but I lost the edit button. [[User:Phineas81707|Phineas81707]] ([[User talk:Phineas81707|talk]]) 06:26, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

==Remoraid in Pokemon Crystal==
Remoraid is catchable in Pokemon Crystal on route 44 with the Super Rod. [[User:Alexlatham96|Alexlatham96]] ([[User talk:Alexlatham96|talk]]) 19:53, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[[User:Alexlatham96|Alexlatham96]]
:The Route 44 page doesn't say it's available. What evidence do you have that says it is? [[User:Litwick96|Litwick]][[User Talk:Litwick96|96]] 21:11, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
The page is right. It looks like Remoraid can't be caught in Pokemon Crystal, I confirmed that. Other pages say Remoraid is catchable on Route 44 with the Super Rod, or by checking the swarms, but that looks to be incorrect. {{unsigned|Alexlatham96}}

== Renaming back to Version-Exclusive? ==

In a recent Sun and Moon trailer, it refers to Game-Exclusives as 'Version Exclusives.' (Specifically, it says 'A Sneak Peek at Version-Exclusive Pokémon!'), implying that it's officially known as Version-Exclusives in english. Should the page be renamed to reflect this again? [[User:Pokemonred200|Pokemonred200]] ([[User talk:Pokemonred200|talk]]) 15:09, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

:I'd support that, since it's been officially referred to as such in a trailer. It also makes more sense - version is more specific, and already carries the implication of being in the same generation. [[User:Draceon|Draceon]] ([[User talk:Draceon|talk]]) 18:00, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

:: I also like that idea. [[User:GMario3826|GM_3826]] ([[User talk:GMario3826|talk]]) 12:44, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
:::Strange that this discussion was abandoned. I do agree. I also feel like there’s a rules conflict between “Please discuss on the talkpage” in the template, but also the practice of “no replying to conversations older than 6 months”. Should I spin my comment off into a new section to resuscitate discussion?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:11, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
::::The talk page policy reads "''Unless an old conversation is still relevant and there is a good reason to revitalize discussion'', comments on sections older than six months old should not be made." I see no confilict, I'd argue that an ongoing move discussion is necessarily still relevant. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 19:15, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
:::::It's worth noting that this page was originally moved to "game-exclusive Pokémon" because [http://archive.is/hv4VF that term was used officially]. Although "version-exclusive Pokémon" does have more recent official use, and is probably the more common term amongst the fandom. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:46, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

::::::So let's move it already! "Game-exclusive" has only ever been used to refer to X and Y's version exclusives. Everywhere else used "version-exclusive." Honestly, I don't think we needed to move page for what X and Y called it. Though I guess we would have only known the term would only be temporary in hindsight. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 22:17, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

== Merging the lists of Gen 5 games? ==

Would it be better if the four games have the same chart for Gen 5 Pokemon so that one can see which Gen 5 Pokemon are in B/W but not in B2/W2 and vice versa? (Zorua, Zoroark, Tornadus, Thundurus, and Landorus)
Then there can be one more list for each pair to show the version-exclusive pre-Gen 5 Pokemon. {{unsigned|‎Fortranm}}
:...I don't see the advantage of that whatsoever. Every other section is in pairs/groups, so mashing two groups together seems like it'd be far too cluttered. And having separate lists for Gen 5 Pokemon and pre-Gen 5 Pokemon is really, really not part of the intended scope of this page at all. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:17, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
::B2/W2 are the third version of Gen 5 in a sense even though they are direct sequels to the first paired version. The first paired versions and the third versions are listed together for all first 4 generations. The format I proposed is just like the format for RSE. {{unsigned|‎Fortranm}}
:::They're really not a "third version", they're a new, separate set of additional versions. Third versions generally copy the original games' story and wild Pokemon distributions with only small alterations here and there, while in B2W2 these have been entirely thrown out and new ones created from scratch. You're trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:51, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

== Stantler in Pokémon Crystal? ==
Stantler is obtainable in Pokémon Crystal,but the page is saying that it is not possible to get a stantler in Pokémon Crystal. {{unsigned|Eduardo390}}
:Stantler is not listed here as it can be obtained in GSC and is not exclusive to any of the three games and being excluded from another game. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 22:00, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
::Because i Fixed this! ''[[User:Eduardo390|Eduardo390]]'' 18:04, 13 May 2020 (UTC-03:00)Brazilia
:::Not sure what you are referring to. You have made no edits to this page or Stantler's page. Page appears to be fine as it is. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 21:53, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

== Version-exclusive ==

I think we should rename this page "Version-exclusive Pokémon" as even the official Pokémon YouTube channel uses the term, as seen in this video: https://youtu.be/m8lfI66T5II {{unsigned|Alolan Ninetales}}
:Note: there is already a discussion about this three sections up. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 19:15, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Nessa

2020-11-28T22:58:22Z

SeanWheeler: She wouldn't call a girl "Mr. Famous."

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'''Nessa''' (Japanese: '''ルリナ''' ''Rurina'') is the [[Gym Leader]] of [[Hulbury]]'s Gym, known officially as [[Hulbury Stadium]]. She [[Type expert|specializes]] in {{type|Water}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}. She gives the {{badge|Water}} to Trainers who defeat her.

==In the games==
{{incomplete|section}}
Nessa is the second [[Gym Leader]] [[Galar|Galarian]] {{pkmn|Trainer}}s face in their [[Galar League|Gym Challenge]]. Nessa's interest in {{type|Water}} Pokémon may have been influenced by her parents: her father is a fisher and her mother works in the marketplace. Eventually, she became the Gym Leader of [[Hulbury Stadium|Hulbury Gym]] and a successful model. She also became close friends with [[Sonia]] during the [[Gym Challenge]], and often gives her fresh seafood from Hulbury whenever the two meet up. She claims to be the rival of [[Milo]], the [[Turffield]] Gym Leader, but the latter only sees himself as his own rival. Nessa is known to be a very popular Gym Leader and model. Many people believe she acts differently depending on her role. She is known to be calm and collected, but her competitive spirit and indomitable will lurk just beneath the surface.<ref>https://swordshield.pokemon.com/en-us/people-galar-region/water-gym-leader-nessa/</ref> Given her personality and modeling career, fans were concerned with how Nessa would react to her loss against the {{player}} in the first round of the Champion Cup. Though she still gave the fans a perfect smile, things were not as peaceful within the Gym.

===League Cards===
This is a transcript of the back of Nessa's [[League Card]]s in {{g|Sword and Shield}}.
;Normal League Card
:"Her father is a fisher, and her mother works in the marketplace. Perhaps because of her parents, she grew up playing with {{type|Water}} Pokémon and eventually made it all the way to being a [[Gym Leader]]. She met [[Sonia]] during their [[Galar League|Gym Challenge]], and they continue to be close friends. Nessa often gives Sonia fresh seafood from [[Hulbury]]. She has declared that [[Milo]] of [[Turffield]] is her rival, but Milo responded by saying that his rival is himself."
;Rare League Card
:"Nessa is incredibly popular, both as a Gym Leader and as a model. Many people even think the Gym Leader Nessa and the model Nessa are two different people, since she shows a completely different attitude in each role. She had the misfortune of being defeated in the first match of the Finals, and those who knew of her indomitable nature worried that this would impact her work as a model. Despite her loss, she was still able to give her fans a perfect smile. Things were not nearly as peaceful with her Gym, however... "

===Pokémon===
Nessa keeps her Pokémon in [[Dive Ball]]s.
===={{g|Sword and Shield}}====
=====Gym battle=====
Nessa will [[Dynamax]] her {{p|Drednaw}} at the first opportunity.

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|{{Pokémon/8
|ndex=846
|pokemon=Arrokuda
|gender=female
|type1=Water
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|move4=Fury Attack|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}
|{{Pokémon/8
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|pokemon=Drednaw
|gender=male
|type1=Water|type2=Rock
|ability=Swift Swim
|level=24 {{color2|000|Dynamax}}
|move1=Razor Shell|move1type=Water|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Water Gun|move2type=Water|move2cat=Special
|move3=Bite|move3type=Dark|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Headbutt|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}
{{Party/Footer}}

=====Second battle=====
Nessa will [[Gigantamax]] her {{p|Drednaw}} at the first opportunity.

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|gender=male
|level=51
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|type2=Water
|ability=Emergency Exit
|move1=First Impression|move1type=Bug|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Liquidation|move2type=Water|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Swords Dance|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Status
|move4=Shadow Claw|move4type=Ghost|move4cat=Physical}}
|{{Pokémon/8
|ndex=279
|pokemon=Pelipper
|gender=male
|level=51
|type1=Water
|type2=Flying
|ability=Drizzle
|move1=Roost|move1type=Flying|move1cat=Status
|move2=Air Slash|move2type=Flying|move2cat=Special
|move3=Water Pulse|move3type=Water|move3cat=Special
|move4=Tailwind|move4type=Flying|move4cat=Status}}
|{{Pokémon/8
|ndex=847
|pokemon=Barraskewda
|gender=female
|level=52
|type1=Water
|ability=Swift Swim
|move1=Liquidation|move1type=Water|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Throat Chop|move2type=Dark|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Ice Fang|move3type=Ice|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Drill Run|move4type=Ground|move4cat=Physical}}
{{Party/Div|color={{water color}}}}
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/8
|ndex=119
|pokemon=Seaking
|gender=female
|level=52
|type1=Water
|ability=Swift Swim
|move1=Smart Strike|move1type=Steel|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Megahorn|move2type=Bug|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Aqua Ring|move3type=Water|move3cat=Status
|move4=Waterfall|move4type=Water|move4cat=Physical}}
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/8
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|level=53
|type1=Water
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|move2=Jaw Lock|move2type=Dark|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Rock Tomb|move3type=Rock|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Crunch|move4type=Dark|move4cat=Physical}}
{{Party/Footer}}

=====Max Raid Battle partner=====
Nessa teams up with the player, [[Hop]], and [[Piers]] to face a [[Dynamax]] {{p|Gyarados}} in a [[Max Raid Battle]].

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|move3=Body Slam|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Rock Tomb|move4type=Rock|move4cat=Physical}}
{{Party/Footer}}

=====Champion tournament=====
Nessa will [[Gigantamax]] her {{p|Drednaw}} at the first opportunity.

{{Party/Single
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|bordercolor={{water color dark}}
|headcolor={{water color light}}
|sprite=VSNessa.png
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|{{Pokémon/8
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|move3=Swords Dance|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Status
|move4=Shadow Claw|move4type=Ghost|move4cat=Physical}}
|{{Pokémon/8
|ndex=279
|pokemon=Pelipper
|gender=male
|level={{tt|60|Before Galarian Star Tournament}}/{{tt|72|After Galarian Star Tournament}}
|type1=Water
|type2=Flying
|ability=Drizzle
|move1=Roost|move1type=Flying|move1cat=Status
|move2=Hurricane|move2type=Flying|move2cat=Special
|move3=Water Pulse|move3type=Water|move3cat=Special
|move4=Tailwind|move4type=Flying|move4cat=Status}}
|{{Pokémon/8
|ndex=195
|pokemon=Quagsire
|gender=male
|level={{tt|61|Before Galarian Star Tournament}}/{{tt|73|After Galarian Star Tournament}}
|type1=Water
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|ability=Damp
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|move3=Ice Punch|move3type=Ice|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Toxic|move4type=Poison|move4cat=Status}}
{{Party/Div|color={{water color}}}}
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/8
|ndex=748
|pokemon=Toxapex
|gender=male
|level={{tt|61|Before Galarian Star Tournament}}/{{tt|73|After Galarian Star Tournament}}
|type1=Poison
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|move1=Baneful Bunker|move1type=Poison|move1cat=Status
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|move3=Venoshock|move3type=Poison|move3cat=Special
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| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/8
|ndex=834
|pokemon=Drednaw
|form=-Gigantamax
|gender=female
|level={{tt|62|Before Galarian Star Tournament}}/{{tt|74|After Galarian Star Tournament}}
|type1=Water
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|ability=Shell Armor
|move1=Liquidation|move1type=Water|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Jaw Lock|move2type=Dark|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Rock Tomb|move3type=Rock|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Crunch|move4type=Dark|move4cat=Physical}}
{{Party/Footer}}

=====Galarian Star Tournament=====
{{Party/Single
|color={{water color}}
|bordercolor={{water color dark}}
|headcolor={{water color light}}
|sprite=VSNessa.png
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|class=Gym Leader
|classlink=Gym Leader
|name=Nessa
|game=SwSh
|location=Wyndon Stadium
|pokemon=3}}
|{{Pokémon/8
|ndex=768
|pokemon=Golisopod
|gender=male
|level=72
|type1=Bug
|type2=Water
|ability=Emergency Exit
|move1=First Impression|move1type=Bug|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Liquidation|move2type=Water|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Swords Dance|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Status
|move4=Shadow Claw|move4type=Ghost|move4cat=Physical}}
|{{Pokémon/8
|ndex=748
|pokemon=Toxapex
|gender=male
|level=73
|type1=Poison
|type2=Water
|ability=Merciless
|move1=Baneful Bunker|move1type=Poison|move1cat=Status
|move2=Recover|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status
|move3=Venoshock|move3type=Poison|move3cat=Special
|move4=Liquidation|move4type=Water|move4cat=Physical}}
|{{Pokémon/8
|ndex=834
|pokemon=Drednaw
|form=-Gigantamax
|gender=female
|level=74
|type1=Water
|type2=Rock
|ability=Shell Armor
|move1=Liquidation|move1type=Water|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Jaw Lock|move2type=Dark|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Rock Tomb|move3type=Rock|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Crunch|move4type=Dark|move4cat=Physical}}
{{Party/Footer}}

===Quotes===
{{incomplete}}
;[[Hulbury]]
:''"You must be a Gym Challenger, right?"''
::'''(Regardless of player's choice)''': ''"You're one of the ones endorsed by Leon, right?"''
:''"You've become something of a hot topic among the Gym Leaders."''
:''"Here you go, Mr./Ms. Famous. I already heard about you, so you should learn about me, too."''
:''"Let's head to the stadium. I love fishing, but I love Pokémon battles even more and I'm itching for a battle with you!"''

;[[Hulbury Stadium]]
:''"Welcome, honored Gym Challenger!"''
:''"I think you already realize, but I'm Nessa. Sorry to have made you look for me."''
:''"I don't doubt my humble mission's difficulty... Yet you cleared it. Your mind as a Pokémon Trainer must be quite refined."''
:''"No matter what kind of plan your refined mind may be plotting, my partner and I will be sure to sink it."''

*Upon sending out last Pokémon
:''"Looks like I'm down to one last Pokémon. I've been saving the best for last!"''

*Upon using [[Dynamax]]
:''"Flood the stadium and make it our ocean! Drednaw, time to Dynamax!"''

*Upon using {{m|Max Geyser}}
:''"This is a little gift from us... I hope you can take it!"''

*Upon being defeated
:''"I may proudly be the strongest member of this Gym, but I was totally washed away!"''

*After being defeated
:''"How...? How can this be?!"''
:''"*sigh* Now that I've battled you, I think I understand."''
:''"Continue to seize victories in the Gym Challenge with your Pokémon."''
:''"You have an incredible spirit that may even be strong enough to challenge the Champion."''
:''"You'll want to challenge the [[Kabu|Fire Gym Leader]] next. As you and your Pokémon are now, he'll definitely want to battle you."''

;[[Wyndon Stadium]] (Champion Cup Locker Room)
:''"Long time no see! This'll be a different sort of battle than you faced in the Gym Challenge. Those were basically test matches, but this... This is serious battle."''

;[[Wyndon Stadium]] (Champion Cup Finals)
:''"I can tell you've grown far stronger since you faced me in Hulbury Stadium."''
:''"I've got to hand it to our undefeated Champion. He's got a proper eye for talent, too."''
:''"But you're not the Champion, and you'll never become the Champion, either."''
:''"Do you know why? Because I, Nessa, am going to defeat both you and Leon!"''
:''"I'm not going to underestimate you again."''
:''"I'll use Dynamax to wash you out to sea and beyond the horizon!"''

*Upon sending out first Pokémon
:''"Sonia might be disappointed, but I'm going to wash your team away!"''

*Upon sending out last Pokémon
:''"Looks like I'm down to one last Pokémon. I've been saving the best for last!"''

*Upon using [[Gigantamax]]
:''"Flood the stadium and make it our ocean! Drednaw, time to Gigantamax!"''

*Upon using {{m|G-Max Stonesurge}}
:''"This is a little gift from us... I hope you can take it!"''

*Upon being defeated
:''"You had no problem handling our surging might. It's no wonder that you won."''

*After being defeated
:''"You and your Pokémon are just too much..."''
:''"Even with my Dynamaxed partner, you weathered our waves and stood firm."''
:''"Now that I think about it, Sonia was saying something about how amazing you were."''
:''"I wish I'd paid more attention to what she was talking about."''
:''"I bet everyone in Galar's got their eyes on you now."''
:''"You defeated my team, so now you've got to ride that current all the way to the end!"''

;[[Hulbury Stadium]] ([[Sordward]] and [[Shielbert]])
:''"Don't get too close, you lot! Things are pretty dangerous here!"''
:''"Yes. They took shelter just a short while ago... Y'know, the more I look at you three, the more I see how odd a little group you are."''
:''"And I'm grateful for it. That Dynamax Pokémon's power is so intense I'm sure it'd give me trouble. I'd feel a lot more confident about it if you all joined the battle. Let's do it!"''

* After defeating [[Dynamax]] {{p|Gyarados}}
:''"Because of everyone's help, no one was hurt and we were able to turn the tide of the situation. I'll keep that Pokémon at Hulbury Stadium until it can fully recover. <player>... If you ever need my help, just let me know. "''
:''"I suppose I'll see you later, then? Thank you so much for your help, truly."''

;[[Wyndon Stadium]] (Champion Cup Rematch)
* Before battle
:''"I'm sure you remember, but I'm Nessa."''
:''"And I'm not here to chat. I'm here to win!"''

* Upon being defeated
:''"I don't get it. What do I gotta do to beat you, huh?"''

* After being defeated
:''"I have my best team, and we train and we train... But then you're always just one step ahead."''
:''"Maybe that's why I can't stop thinking about you."''

;[[Isle of Armor]] Random Encounters
:''"Well, hello there, Champion! Have you come to see me? No, no, just winding you up a bit. I've got some time off from my modelling and Gym Leader work, so I'm honing my moves."''

:''"Drednaw and I are doing some intensive training. We're working on moves that can drench even this bone-dry desert!"''

:''"Look at this brilliant swimming weather! Good thing the Hulbury Gym uniform doubles as a swimsuit, so I can dive right in!"''

:''"The water looks so inviting... Wonder how many seconds it'd take me to swim to that island out there?"''

:''"When it rains here in the forest, the sound's so calming. It makes for a nice mental refresh if I've lost a battle or something."''

:''"Clouds have got to cover a certain proportion of the sky for a day to officially be called cloudy. The sky's at least nine-tenths covered today, so that definitely qualifies!"''

:''"Rain's got its share of haters, but I gurantee you none of them are Water-type Pokémon! It just goes to show how people and Pokémon don't always agree on what's nice weather!"''

:''"Look at this--nature as far as the eye can see. Just the sort of spot [[Milo]]'d love, right?"''

:''"You can get to the sea through here. There are some small islands around there--my favorites spots!"''

*During a {{OBP|sandstorm|weather condition}}
:''"Since Drednaw's also a Rock type, it grows more resistant to special moves during sandstorms."''

*During [[Fog|foggy conditions]]
:''"In thick fogs like this, it's easy for ships to lose their way at sea. That's why we have lighthouses, like the one in Hulbury!"''

;[[Wyndon Stadium]] ([[Galarian Star Tournament]])
::'''Partnering with Nessa'''
*In the locker room before the first round
:''"I've got to admit, it feels a bit strange teaming up together with you like this. I mean...I'm happy to get to battle alongside you, but you're just too good. You know?"''

*In the locker room before the second round
:''"What did you think of our graceful Water-type moves? I've worked to refine them to their purest form. I'll be firing them off from beside you in the next match, too."''

*In the locker room before the last round
:''"When you and I team up together, there's no way we can do anything but win. So once you're ready, let's go and do just that."''

*On the field before the first round battle
:''"Don't worry. I won't let anyone sink our team!"''

*On the field before the second round battle
:''"I'm at my best when I team up with you! It's like I'm a mermaid who's found water!"''

*On the field before the last round battle
:''"Even If I have to flood this stadium and turn it into an ocean, I'll swim my way through!"''

*Winning the Tournament
:''"The waves have receded, and only you and I are left standing... Congratulations on this victory, <player>. And thank you for it."''

*Against Milo
:''"Just my luck I'd get pitted against a Grass-type user like you, Milo... But I don't plan on losing!"''

==Artwork==
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|style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{water color dark}}; background: #{{water color light}}"| [[File:Nessa TW.png|x250px]]
|-
|Artwork of Nessa from {{color2|000|Pokémon: Twilight Wings}}
|}

===Sprites===
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|style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{water color dark}}; background: #{{water color light}}"| [[File:GST Nessa icon.png|100px]]
|-
|Icon from the {{color2|000|Galarian Star Tournament}} menu
|}

===[[League Card]]s===
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|style="{{roundy|5px}} border: 2px solid #{{water color dark}}; background: #{{water color light}}"| [[File:League Card Nessa.png|x250px]]
|style="{{roundy|5px}} border: 2px solid #{{water color dark}}; background: #{{water color light}}"| [[File:League Card Nessa rare.png|x250px]]
|-
|Nessa's {{color2|000|League Card}} in {{color2|000|Pokémon Sword and Shield|Sword and Shield}}
|Nessa's rare {{color2|000|League Card}} in {{color2|000|Pokémon Sword and Shield|Sword and Shield}}
|}

==In the anime==
[[File:Nessa Twilight Wings.png|thumb|250px|left|Nessa in [[Pokémon: Twilight Wings]]]]
[[File:Young Nessa TW.png|thumb|250px|Young Nessa in Pokémon: Twilight Wings]]

===In Pokémon: Twilight Wings===
Nessa made a cameo appearance in ''[[TW01|Letter]]''. She reappeared in another cameo in ''[[TW03|Buddy]]'', where she was seen in the water alongside a {{p|Qwilfish}}.

Nessa appeared more prominently in ''[[TW04|Early-Evening Waves]]'', where she suffered a defeat in the [[Galar League|Champion Cup]] at the hands of [[Milo]]. Afterwards, she was approached by [[Rose]], who implied the loss happened because she was distracted by her simultaneous modeling career. This agitated her, and she vented her frustrations to [[Sonia]]. Later, during a photo shoot, Nessa was reunited with a {{p|Feebas}} she had met as a child, which was now a {{p|Milotic}}. Afterwards, she decided to disregard Rose's words and continue being both a Gym Leader and a model.

In ''[[TW07|Sky]]'', she gave her thoughts about [[Leon]] in an interview.

In ''[[TW08|The Gathering of Stars]]'', she was seen resting at a modeling photoshoot studio when she received an invitation letter for the [[Galarian Star Tournament]]. She was later seen at [[Wyndon Stadium]], walking out onto the field for the tournament's opening ceremony.

====Character====
During the time she was defeated in {{pkmn|battle}}, Nessa felt very concerned about juggling between her dual careers as a Gym Leader and a model. This conflict was amplified by [[Rose]]'s implication that her modeling career was distracting her from her Gym Leader duties. She also has a great friendship with Sonia.

====Pokémon====
This listing is of Nessa's known {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} in [[Pokémon: Twilight Wings]]:
=====On hand=====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Nessa
|pkmn=Drednaw
|type1=Water
|type2=Rock
|img=Nessa Drednaw TW.png
|epnum=TW04
|epname=Early-Evening Waves
|desc={{p|Drednaw}} was seen being defeated by [[Milo]]'s [[Dynamax]] {{p|Eldegoss}} during Nessa's Champion Cup battle against him.

Drednaw's only known move is {{m|Crunch}}{{tt|*|Mentioned only}}.}}
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Nessa
|pkmn=Inteleon
|type1=Water
|img=Nessa Inteleon TW.png
|epnum=TW08
|epname=The Gathering of Stars
|desc={{p|Inteleon}} was seen along with Nessa during a photoshoot.

None of Inteleon's moves are known.}}

=====Befriended=====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Nessa
|pkmn=Milotic
|stage1=Feebas
|type1=Water
|img=Nessa Feebas TW.png
|cap=Feebas
|img2=Nessa Milotic TW.png
|cap2=Milotic
|epnum=TW04
|epname=Early-Evening Waves
|desc=As a child, Nessa encountered a {{p|Feebas}}, and encouraged it to grow bigger. She also requested if she could ride on it once it [[evolution|evolved]]. Years later, Feebas returned as a {{p|Milotic}}, who fulfilled the request from earlier and let Nessa ride on it. This encounter prompted her to move forward with her goal to be both a [[Gym Leader]] and a model at the same time.

None of Milotic's moves are known.}}

===In the GOTCHA! music video===
Nessa briefly appeared in [[GOTCHA!]].

==In the manga==
[[File:Nessa Adventures.png|thumb|150px|Nessa in Pokémon Adventures]]
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
Nessa debuted in [[PASS03]]. She, along with various other Gym Leaders, was first seen reacting to the news that [[Leon]] had endorsed two {{pkmn|Trainer}}s for the [[Galar League|Gym Challenge]].

Later, Nessa faced [[Sōdo Tsurugi|Sōdo]] in a [[Gym]] {{pkmn|battle}} at [[Hulbury Stadium]] and lost. She later battled [[Shirudomiria Tate|Shirudomiria]] as well, but the injuries her Pokémon sustained in the battle with Sōdo led to Nessa losing a second time, much to her frustration. After Shirudomiria and [[Hop]] completed the first three Galar Gyms, Nessa, [[Milo]], and [[Kabu]] personally congratulated the two for their accomplishment.
{{-}}
====Pokémon====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Nessa
|pkmn=Toxapex
|type1=Poison
|type2=Water
|img=Nessa Toxapex Adventures.png
|epnum=Sword & Shield chapter (Adventures)
|epname=Sword & Shield chapter
|desc={{p|Toxapex}} is Nessa's first known Pokémon. It was first seen participating in a photo shoot with Nessa. Later, it was used in a battle against [[Sōdo Tsurugi|Sōdo]]'s {{p|Thwackey|Sutikkun}}. Though it {{status|poison|poisoned}} its opponent with {{m|Baneful Bunker}}, Toxapex was defeated when its body was heated up by Sutikkun's {{m|Sunny Day}}, leaving it wide open for Sutikkun's next attack.

Toxapex's only known move is {{m|Baneful Bunker}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Nessa
|pkmn=Drednaw ↔ Gigantamax Drednaw
|type1=Water
|type2=Rock
|img=Nessa Drednaw Adventures.png
|img2=Nessa Gigantamax Drednaw Adventures.png
|img2_size=120px
|cap=Nessa's Drednaw
|cap2=Nessa's Drednaw
|epnum=Sword & Shield chapter (Adventures)
|epname=Sword & Shield chapter
|desc={{p|Drednaw}} is Nessa's second known Pokémon. It was first used in Nessa's Gym battle against [[Sōdo Tsurugi|Sōdo]], but it was defeated by Sōdo's {{p|Thwackey|Sutikkun}}. It is housed in a [[Dive Ball]].

None of Drednaw's moves are known{{tt|*|Drednaw is implied to know a damaging Normal-type and Water-type move due to the use of Max Strike and G-Max Stonesurge}}. 
As a Gigantamax Drednaw, it can use {{m|Max Strike}} and {{m|G-Max Stonesurge}}.}}
{{-}}

==In the TCG==
This listing is of cards mentioning or featuring Nessa or her Pokémon in the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]].

{{cardlist/header|Nessa's Pokémon|Water|char=yes}}
{{cardlist/entry|cardname={{TCG ID|Vivid Voltage|Drednaw|39}}|type=Water|standard=yes|enset=Vivid Voltage|enrarity=Rare|ennum=039/185|jpset=Amazing Volt Tackle|jprarity=U|jpnum=026/100}}
{{cardlist/div|Other related cards|Water}}
{{cardlist/entry|cardname={{TCG ID|Vivid Voltage|Nessa|157}}|type=Supporter|standard=yes|enset=Vivid Voltage|enrarity=Uncommon|ennum=157/185|jpset=Amazing Volt Tackle|jprarity=U|jpnum=096/100|enset2=Vivid Voltage|enrarity2=Rare Ultra|ennum2=183/185|jpset2=Amazing Volt Tackle|jprarity2=SR|jpnum2=111/100|enset3=Vivid Voltage|enrarity3=Rare Secret|ennum3=196/185|jpset3=Amazing Volt Tackle|jprarity3=HR|jpnum3=118/100}}
{{cardlist/footer|Water}}

==Trivia==
* Nessa's uniform number is "049", which can be read in Japanese as {{wp|Japanese wordplay#Goroawase|goroawase}} for 泳ぐ ''oyogu'', meaning "to swim".
* In Nessa's [[Gym]] {{pkmn|battle}} and as a partner in a [[Max Raid Battle]], she uses a male Drednaw. However, in her tournament battle and all future [[rematch]]es, she uses a female Drednaw.
* Nessa's rivalry with Milo, especially with [[Hulbury]] and [[Turffield]]'s real world inspirations, could be based on the rivalry between {{wp|Lancashire}} and {{wp|Yorkshire}} since the {{wp|Wars of the Roses}}.

==Names==
{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{water color light}}; border:3px solid #{{water color}}"
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Japanese
| ルリナ ''Rurina''
| From 瑠璃苦菜 ''ruri-nigana'' ({{wp|Catananche caerulea|cupid's dart}})
|- style="background:#FFF"
| English
| Nessa
| From ''ness'', an Old English word for a headland the piece of land that projects from a coastline into the sea. Also from ''{{wp|Loch Ness}}''.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| German
| Kate
| From ''Catananche caerulea'' (cupid's dart)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| French
| Donna
| From ''cupidone bleue'' (cupid's dart)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Italian
| Azzurra
| From ''cupidone azzurro'' (cupid's dart)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Spanish
| Cathy
| From ''Catananche caerulea'' (cupid's dart)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Korean
| 야청 ''Yacheong''
| From 야청 ''yacheong'' (dark blue)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and Mainland China}})
| 露璃娜 ''Lùlínà''
| Transliteration of her Japanese name. Contains 露 ''lù'' (dew) and 璃 ''lí'' from 玻璃菊 ''bōlijú'' (cupid's dart).
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Cantonese|Hong Kong}})
| 露璃娜 ''Louhlèihnàh''
| Transliteration of her Japanese name. Contains 露 ''louh'' (dew) and 璃 ''lèih'' from 玻璃菊 ''bōlēigūk'' (cupid's dart).
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Brazilian Portuguese
| Vanessa
| From her English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Russian
| Несса ''Nessa''
| Transcription of her English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Thai
| รูรินะ ''Rurina''
| Transcription of her Japanese name
|}

==References==
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Talk:Trio master

2020-06-18T02:41:27Z

SeanWheeler: /* Removing the Legendary Golems */

Don't you think this is overdoing it a bit? -[[User:Happy Mask Man|Happy Mask Man]] 17:24, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree. This reads a bit more like fanfiction/fan terminology than anything. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 17:50, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Eh, I figured it needed to have a name. After all, there is a definite relationship between the birds and Lugia, the beasts and Ho-oh, and the Regis and Regigigas.

Think it should just be a subpage of [[Legendary trio]]? [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 20:35, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Forget a subpage, just merge it into the main trio article as a section. That article is short anyway. --WikidSmaht 09:09, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

So, uh, when's something going to be done about this silly article? -[[User:Happy Mask Man|Happy Mask Man]] 01:17, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

== Arceus ==

Isn't Arceus the master of Trio masters?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 16:31, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
:All we know is it's the master of the lake trio. Ho-Oh, Lugia, and Regigigas... well, they actually seem to be overlords of sky, sea, and land. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 16:45, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

i thought Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza were the overlords of the land, sea, and sky. I kind of pictured Ho-Oh and Lugia as guardians. and i'm not even sure what to think of Regigigas as of yet. [[User:InuMimi|InuMimi]] 12:39, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Remember that while Kyogre expanded the seas, Groudon expanded the continents, and Rayquaza brought neutral ground (and not ground as in Groudon, but you get what I mean) with the sky, they are very much beings of these domains, and have never been shown to watch over the effects of the domains they represent. Rayquaza may keep the balance between Kyogre and Groudon, but it seems to simply be a leader of the Sky World, rather than its Guardian. The Hebrew mythological/legendary/Biblical creatures known as Behemoth, Leviathan, and Ziz are seen as the Great Beasts of the Earth, Sea, and Sky (respectively), but not as the Guardians of these domains. They simply are the Greatest of the inhabitants of these domains. I'm not saying that Pokémon has to adhere to the stories that its Legendaries are based on, but they do provide a hint. Now, granted, Kyogre and Groudon's information in the version they do not appear in is important in that is states that Kyogre brought the relief of rain to those caught in drought, and Groudon brought and end to the monsoon-like rains that tormented various regions. But these are born from aspects of their nature - the ability to expand the seas or earth with Drizzle and Drought respectively. This would seem to state that Kyogre is actually the guardian of the Earth - as it brought balance back to regions suffering drought, the negative aspects of Groudon - and that Groudon is the guardian of the Seas, for precisely the equal and opposite reasons. Of course, they are not the guardians of each others' domains, though they do keep each other in check somewhat, when they're not sleeping, that is. And when they are both awake - well it seemed that they actually didn't want to fight each other in the games at least, and that it was the Orbs that drove them out of control. The citizens of Sootopolis in Emerald state that the two look like they actually don't want to be fighting each other, as if they are being forced to by the Red and Blue Orbs (which may or may not be man-made). And Rayquaza has been seen to keep them in check when this does happen (though somehow Lance and Ash and co. were able to stop them without Rayquaza in the anime). But even Rayquaza has been seen as very defensive of its area - in Movie 7 it attacked Deoxys on sight simply because Deoxys entered it's domain. That's more like an attack dog than a guardian trying to keep the balance of the skies.

Lugia has shown multiple times that if it existed in the sky, it would cause catastrophic events that could effect the entire world, but by maintaining its powers beneath the sea it is able to keep the balance of the world's water, and therefore the source of life (as seen in a traditional Buddhist sense, as well as in, say, Movies 1, 2, 4, 5, and 9). Ho-oh has been seen as the maker of Rainbows and the being that ends the storms that could cause pain and suffering to the world, so it is the guardian of the Sky World. Ironically, the Legendary Birds and their actions affect the sea and are governed by Lugia, while the Legendary beasts are governed by Ho-oh.

The Regi trio seem to have been made by Man, the class of beings often associated with the Earth, as bone and muscle and flesh are very Earthy substances. But Regigigas has been known as the being that pulled the Continents together by towing them with ropes, and it is also seen in Movie 11 as providing its phenomenal strength and its mastery over the great beasts that walk the Earth (here being Mammoswine) to prevent catastrophes such as that of the Glacidia glacier moving and causing much devastation across the Earth. Regigigas is perhaps the most Deus ex Machina a Pokémon movie character could get (though Kyogre in Movie 9 comes close), as he basically solves the final crisis of the movie, when Ash and co. couldn't. Regigigas' role of herding Megafauna is very Earth-based as well - see the Ground egg group, and it's role with Mammals (or HSOWA). Mammals almost define Earth and its denizens, though they certainly are not the only ones; but their association with humans and agriculture and also with the ancient Megafauna that dominated this world in the early Cenozoic are definitely indications that Regigigas is like a human of the ancient world, and how humans see themselves as the Stewards of Earth (or at least should...).

So my point here is that while Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza represent the elemental energies that empower the three domains of Earth, Sea, and Sky, respectively, it is Regigigas, Lugia, and Ho-oh (again respectively) that are the stewards of these domains. Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza represent a trio (though a statistically imbalanced trio as Rayquaza is stronger than the other two), but one without a Trio Master because they keep each other in-balance ability-wise (and if Kyogre has some possible connection with "the Beast of the Sea", than it may be that the Trio Masters each keep the Weather Trio member in their domain balanced as well, though that's getting more into speculation). Regigigas, Lugia, and Ho-oh are Trio Masters because of their Pokédex and series lore about their roles, which connect them with both the Trios they control and their domains of Land, Sea, and Sky. The association with Lugia and the Moon and Ho-oh and the Sun - that's another story that has absolutely no basis save the opening screens of Silver and Gold versions.

Arceus has yet to have been shown as the Master of Trio Masters, as has he yet to have been shown as the Master of the Dragon Trio (though this will probably be revealed next summer with Movie 12). So until then, Arceus remains as the Trio Master of the Lake Trio, only. But having created the entire world and its planes, I would assume he could be considered the master of the Weather Trio, the Dragon Trio, as well as relegating the Beast Trio, Bird Trio, and Regi Trio to Ho-oh, Lugia, and Regigigas. That, however, is speculation for now. Thank you for your time. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 03:53, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

== Arceus ==

Isn't he the trio master of the dragons as well.We know for sure he created Dialga and Palkia (and he probably created Giratina to start the reverse world but that is just speculation) which is like how Ho-oh created the Beasts and Ho-oh is the beast master so Arceus should be noted as the Dragon Trio Master or as Master of Dialga and Palkia.
[[User:Sailor Earth|Sailor Earth]] 16:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

True, but if he's only the master of Dialga and Palkia, then he's not a Trio Master, just a Duo Master, so to speak.

:Please add your sig with the four tildes after you comment. Arceus is almost certainly the Trio Master of the Dragon Trio as well; however, his relationship with Giratina is still not yet confirmed, while it's been established that he either created Dialga and Palkia or else they are warring aspects of himself (sorry for using the masculine noun-forms). Until Movie 12 comes out, we probably won't have an answer to that, so for now, Arceus remains only as the Trio Master of the Lake Trio. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 03:56, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

== lake trio master ==

in the [[Pokémon Pearl]] [[PokéDex]] data itt says the followinng : ''It is thought that [[Uxie]],[[Mesprit]] and [[Azelf]] all came from the same egg.'' Is it the egg that [[Arceus]] came from or another [[legendary Pokémon]] ?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 12:58, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
: Who knows, It might've been an egg fromm mew? --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|Fire]] 13:08, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

== Ah Ah Ah Ah... ==

What about deleting this article? Come on, this is just random observation with fanwanked explanation. We don't need article about this! --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 17:08, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:A little late, but this should merged into the legendary trio article. Anyone oppose? [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 03:12, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
::Naw, it's a good article. It could be fleshed out a bit more, and after Movie 12, it will probably be bigger with the Dragon Trio added. I say keep it for now. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 03:58, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I agree with Maxim here. The article is inconsistent and attempts to reveal patterns that don’t exist. Lugia definitely isn’t the master of the birds in the games, for example, and Ho‐oh is not the master of the beasts in the anime (AFAIK; bear in mind that I haven’t watched the show in years). The fact that we ''repeat'' Rayquaza really shows that this is just shoehorning. [[Legendary trio]]s this is not. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 22:13, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

==Lake Trio Giratina==
I'm starting to think that the lake trio is led by Giratina. After all, they did ''kinda'' summon him and lead the player to him ''and'' he appears in the fourth lake of Sinnoh. This is purely speculation but so are the others, except the Golems.[[User:Shadow1337|Shadow1337]] 23:57, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah good points, I think you could be right yknow. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 20:58, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
::Possibly, however, it clearly states that Arceus created the Lake Trio himself. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 21:18, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

==Isn't Arceus the master of two trios?==
I'm pretty sure he's the master of the Dragon trio too. [[User:Master Lucario|Master Lucario]]
:As {{U|Unown Lord}} said, "''It is one thing to claim that Dialga, Palkia and Giratina constitute a trio, but going as far as suggesting that Arceus created Giratina is simply unfounded and will be avoided until proven in-game.''"--[[Blastoise (Pokémon)|K]][[Gary's Blastoise|kl]][[Blastoise (TCG)|l]][[User:Kkllnn|nn]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| blastoise]] 22:34, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
::As I've said numerous times throughout this talk page, we'll get our answer most likely in Movie 12. Wait until then. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 04:47, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

:::In Platinum, it said that Giratina was the member that "no one talked about." You can't create two members of a trio without creating the third, especially when the third is basically a parallel universe! [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 13:18, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

== No proof for Giratina...? ==

...I recall in Pokemon Platinum, at the Spear Pillar, Cynthia states that Giratina was created alongside Dialga and Palkia, though never talked about...- ''unsigned comment from {{u|M190049}} ([[User talk:M190049|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/M190049|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:It isn't a trio master.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 21:25, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
::...I didn't say it is. In the text, it says "According to legend, Arceus created Dialga and Palkia. Whether Arceus created Giratina or not is unknown."
::...It kind of confirms this in Platinum.
:: [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 21:47, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
:::With the facts, it seems Arceus DID in fact create Giratina. It does kinda confirm it in Pt...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 21:50, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Okay than. I'll remove the sentence. [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 21:55, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
::::M'kay, I removed it and replaced it with a new one. [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 22:08, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

== I think that this chart would be better ==

I'm just not sure wether or not you'll agree.
{| border=1 width=500px align="center" style="background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="3px"
|- style="background: #C0C0FF;"
! Trio
! Master
! Relation
|-
| [[a:File:Legendary_birds.jpg]] [[Legendary Birds]]
| align="center" | [[Image:249.png]] {{p|Lugia}}
| Lugia rises to quell the fighting of the [[legendary birds]] in ''[[The Power of One]]'', and is the only one who is able to do so.
|-
| [[File:Neo3_beasts.jpg|100px]] [[Legendary beasts]]
| align="center" | [[Image:250.png]] {{p|Ho-Oh}}
| After the three [[legendary beasts]] perished in the fire at the [[Brass Tower]], Ho-Oh revived them.
|-
| [[a:File:GenIII_Battle.jpg]] [[Weather Trio]]
| align="center" | [[Image:384.png]] {{p|Rayquaza}}
| Rayquaza may internally be the master of the [[weather trio]], primarily because it had quelled the fighting between the other members of its trio in {{game|Emerald}}.
|-
| [[File:Legendary titans.png|100px]] [[Legendary Golems]]
| align="center" | [[Image:486.png]] {{p|Regigigas}}
| Regigigas will awaken on bringing the three [[legendary golems]] to [[Snowpoint Temple]]. Regigigas' {{game|Platinum}} Pokédex entry also claims that it built statues made of {{p|Regirock|rocks}}, {{p|Regice|ice}}, and {{p|Registeel|magma}}.
|-
| [[File:Dialga-Palkia-Giratina.png|100px]] [[Dragon Trio]]
| align="center" rowspan="2" | [[Image:493.png]] {{p|Arceus}}
| According to legend, Arceus created Dialga and Palkia, and it's stated in {{game|Platinum}} that Giratina was created alongside them, thus completing the [[dragon trio]]. All four legendary Pokémon will battle in the 12th Movie, ''[[Arceus: To a Conquering Spacetime]]''.
|-
| [[a:File:MespritAzelfUxie.jpg]] [[Lake Trio]]
| Arceus is also said to have created the [[lake trio]] whilst creating the universe, making Arceus the only trio master that is related to two legendary trios rather than just one.

|}
This chart is smaller and less image heavy, and it's a little more convenient if your looking for the master of a certain trio. [[wp:Dolphin|Dolphins]][[User:Dolphin2|_are]][[Special:Contributions|_awesome]] (and [[Vulpix (Pokémon)|Vulpix]] are too)! 20:27, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
:The fact that the images clash with each other turns me off on the idea. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:57, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
::What do you mean by ''clash together''? [[wp:Dolphin|Dolphins]][[User:Dolphin2|_are]][[Special:Contributions|_awesome]] (and [[Vulpix (Pokémon)|Vulpix]] are too)! 13:35, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
:::They don't look good together. Also, it is hard to see which trio is which; they all just look like blurs of color at that resolution. With that said, the point of an article is to read it and not just look at the pictures, so how about we do just that. If one reads the column title it shouldn't be a problem. Not to mention the master is the first in the row, and therefore the one the eye should first travel to. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 21:19, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
::::They look fine to me. {{tt|I can see the images just fine.|and if you can't, then that's what the names are for}}And do you ''realy'' think that ''every'' pokémon in ''every'' trio should be shown? {{tt|Isn't this article about the ''masters?''|Hence the name?}} [[wp:Dolphin|Dolphins]][[User:Dolphin2|_are]][[Special:Contributions|_awesome]] (and [[Vulpix (Pokémon)|Vulpix]] are too)! 23:52, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::Uh...yeah? That's what that column is for. The images are all of varying quality too. The Bird Trio and Lake Trio are screenshots and the others are official art. The The Regi art is the worst of them all: anime image on a white background. If we use this, just the their menu sprites in there.
{| border=1 width=500px align="center" style="background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="3px"
|- style="background: #C0C0FF;"
! Trio
! Master
! Relation
|-
| [[File:144MS.png]][[File:145MS.png]][[File:146MS.png]] [[Legendary Birds]]
| align="center" | [[Image:249.png]] {{p|Lugia}}
| Lugia rises to quell the fighting of the [[legendary birds]] in ''[[The Power of One]]'', and is the only one who is able to do so.
|-
|}
:::::And if you do this, make sure all three sprites are on the same row...not like how I have it there with Moltres on it's own line. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 11:10, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::You know, Sketch, you might have an idea there. The Master is larger than the pokémon in the trio, which makes it the first thing you see, and the trio pokémon are {{tt|small and almost unnoticeable|which is a good thing, after all this article is about the masters}}. One thing's for sure, it's better than mine. [[wp:Dolphin|Dolphins]][[User:Dolphin2|_are]][[Special:Contributions|_awesome]] (and [[Vulpix (Pokémon)|Vulpix]] are too)! 21:02, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

== What. ==

A quote from the Trivia:
''
"Lugia is the only trio master who did not debut in the same generation as its trio."''

What about Regigigas? It's from Gen. IV and its trio is Gen. III. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 01:23, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:Has been removed. You know, you are allowed to take out this stuff yourself. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:38, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
::Ehh...Every edit I make someone reverts and tells me not to do it again, I decided to take the safer route here. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 09:10, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== Arceus the double master ==

Isn't Arceus really the master of all the trios? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 17:00, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, Arceus is the master of two trios but he can boss all the other masters about. [[User:Lunick v sonela|Lunick v sonela]] 17:07, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

== Lugia ==

Was Lugia's relation to the other three birds ever mentioned in any of the games? Or is it just anime exclusive? I don't remember there being any mention of it in the original GSC games, but is there anything about it in the remakes? [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 17:59, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
:It's in Mystery Dungeon R/B. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:55, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
::Ah, i see. I haven't played any of those Mystery Dungeon games. But aren't they in an entirely different world then the main games and anime, though? [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 21:08, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

== Real History ==

I'm from Portugal and when they distributed Arceus for Diamond, Pearl and Platinum versions they gave me a booklet telling the history. I quote:

''Arceus is regarded as the Pokémon God, the creator of the Pokémon universe''.

''This is a legendary Pokémon, Alpha species and normal type. ''Though, if it have some elemental plates it can be transformed in one of 17 types of Pokémon.'' This is its powerful multi-type ability.''

''The story goes that Arceus was born from an egg in chaos even before the outbreak of the cosmos.''

''Arceus began creating Pokémon to put everything in place. The first thing he did was to create Mew to take account of the universe, this one and Arceus are the Pokémon that accompanied the formation process of the cosmos.''

''Then he had to create Shaymin so that nature arise and to maintain balance. Arceus created Dialga, which in turn gave rise to time, and Palkia, which led to the space. Giratina created to control the death and, if necessary, act as mediator between Dialga and Palkia.''

''After that, it created Jirachi that put the stars on firmament. Once created light, thanks to Jirachi, immediatly Darkrai could be seen in Arceus' shadow. Arceus thought to give a mystic touch to the universe and created Cresselia, the first Pokémon with feelings. This created the moon and, thanks to the feelings, wanted some help and company, so it created the legendary trio formed by Uxie, Mesprit and Azelf and later the Clefairy. This legendary trio was later charged with providing living beings with feelings, like emotion, knowledge and will, basic features that represent each.
'''Welcome to the Pokémon Universe.'''''

That means Arceus created Mew, Shaymin, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Jirachi and Cresselia. Cresselia created Clefairy, Uxie, Mesprit and Azelf. Darkrai was created by Arceus' shadow.

For people who knows portuguese:

''Arceus é considerado como o Pokémon Deus, criador do universo Pokémon.''

''Trata-se de um Pokémon lendário, da especie Alpha e de tipo Normal. No entanto, se possuir algumas das elemental plates pode transformar-se num dos 17 tipos de Pokémon. esta é a sua poderosa capacidade multi-tipo.''

''Reza a história de que Arceus nasceu de um ovo imerso no caos ainda antes de eclodir o cosmos.''

''Arceus começou a criar Pokémon para colocar tudo no seu lugar. A primeira coisa que fez foi criar Mew para que tomassse conta do universo, pelo que este último e Arceus são os Pokémon que acompanharam o processo de formação do cosmos.''

''Depois teve de criar Shaymin para que a natureza surgisse e para manter o equilibrio. Arceus criou Dialga, que por sua vez deu origem ao tempo, e Palkia, que deu origem ao espaço. Criou Giratina para que controlasse a morte e, se necessário, agisse como mediador entre Dialga e Palkia.''

''Posteriormente criou Jirachi que colocou as estrelas no firmamento. Uma vez criada a luz, graças a Jirachi, imediatamente foi possível ver Darkrai na sombra de Arceus. Arceus pensou dar ao universo um toque místico pelo que criou Cresselia, o primeiro Pokémon com sentimentos. Este criou a lua e, graças aos seu sentimentos, desejou ter ajuda e companhia, pelo que criou o trio lendário formado por Uxie, Mesprit e Azelf e posteriormente os Clefairy, este trio lendário ficou encarregue de mais tarde dotar os seres vivos de sentimentos, como a emoção, a sabedoria e a vontade, cracterísticas básicas que representam cada um dele.''
'''''Bem-vindo ao universo Pokémon.''''' {{unsigned|SakasFixe}}
:Sounds like fanfiction.
:Please sign your posts with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 20:08, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Well, it's not fanfiction because it's real. When I read it for the first time I was confused too, but... it also says how to receive Arceus and it's caracteristics:

Pokédex nr. 493
Specie: Alpha
Type: Normal
Ability: Multi-Type
High: 3,2 m
Weight: 320,0 kg
Level: 100
Experience points: 1.250.000
Object: Baya Magua (Magua Berry) {{unsigned|SakasFixe}}
::Could you possibly show us a scan or pics of this pamphlet?
::Please sign your posts with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 20:44, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm calling unofficial until GameFreak of Japan says something like this. "Giratina was created to control death"? If I'm nto mistaken it was confirmed to be antimatter some time ago. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 20:48, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

How can I Ulpoad pictures to Bulbapedia?

I knew about the control of antimatter but, I'm good in Particule Phisics, if Giratina controls Antimatter it must be made of antimatter and he couldn't come to our world or we to its.

--Sakas 18:26, 13 April 2010 (UTC)SakasFixe

Ok forget it.

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:I don't think you understand the nature of our request to see scans/pics. We want to see the part that proves that it is officially endorsed by Nintendo.
:Please sign your posts with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 02:04, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Ok! These pics were taken with my DSi and, I don't know why, only three pics are jpeg, others are the symbol of Nintendo, Cover of the booklet and back cover. Thoses pics was, like the others, transfered for facebook and the format is png

I will try to convert them

Sakas 19:49, 14 April 2010 (UTC)SakasFixe

Ok I get it
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:I'm still doubtful of it. It's stated ''in the games'' that the lake guardians were made by Arceus, along with Dialga and Palkia (and Giratina, too, as Cynthia reveals). Nintendo knows their legends. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:52, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

So why did they created that story? It is real! Trust me! I know it seems weird but that's what is written there. I understand your position. You can ask Nintendo. And... where is stated ''in the games'' that they are a creation of Arceus?
Sakas 17:43, 25 May 2010 (UTC)SakasFixe

well that means that Crescelia is a the trio master of the pixie trio, denouncing Arceus as their trio masters, that also means that the trio hatched from the same crescelia egg.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 14:16, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Probably

the only possible explanation is that nintendo wanted to release this as a surprise goodie to stir things up along with the figures, so they cancelled it in all over world but forgot potugal, so its a company mistake, although that thing revealed alot such as creation of darkrai, one can see the two having some slight resemblance only by the shape of the head (somewhat), and thus arceus and darkrai are somewhat of a duo, somewhat, and some what of a trio if a crescelia is considered, and if so this is the first time that a trio master is part of a trio, but i'm still sceptical, didnt anybody else get such a booklet in portugal??? {{unsigned|Nobody777}}

Yeah You're right! Why did Darkrai born in Arceus' shadow? Maybe Arceus is too powerful that even his shadow is able do create a Pokémon {{unsigned|SakasFixe}}

== Umm... C*CK PUNCH! ==

But seriously. Read this. There could be a subpage about Legendary Quads. Just for the Muskeeter group.--[[User talk:444Zekrom|444]][[User:444Zekrom|Z]][[Zekrom|ekrom]] 10:30, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

== Landros, master of the Raijin trio? ==

Has a higher base stat total, is encountered in a different way (and level), requires both the other members to be captured to be encountered... It is fairly different from the other 2, and it screams trio master for me. We need to get more information, but keep it in mind. [[User:Eriorguez|Eriorguez]] 17:24, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:Done.--[[User talk:444Zekrom|444]][[User:444Zekrom|Z]][[Zekrom|ekrom]] 09:56, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

== My thoughts on Keldeo ==

I think that Keldeo should be the leader of the Musketeer group since it is an event Pokémon and requires the other three to make it learn the Sacred Sword (I think) move. —[[User:Zekasaur|♫Ze]][[User talk:Zekasaur|kas]][[Special:Contributions/Zekasaur|aur♫]] 11:39, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:The problem is, it's not the leader. In fact, it's the opposite: Keldeo is the youngest of the group and was adopted by the other three. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 12:25, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::You mean {{m|Secret Sword|Sword of Mystery}}, but the Musketeers are definitely different than the other groups. --[[User:Venomoth|'''''V'''e№moth'']][[User talk:Venomoth| ♦]] 23:15, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:::Thanks, I was really confused. —[[User:Zekasaur|♫Ze]][[User talk:Zekasaur|kas]][[Special:Contributions/Zekasaur|aur♫]] 04:51, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
::::I agree with Zekasaur. Here is my quote from the Musketeer's page: "If, as we have noted, Keldeo is not truly part of the trio, and it is (semi) far apart from the others in the Pokedex, wouldn't Keldeo be qualified for Trio Master? This would also save us from the trio/musketeers/quartet dilemma." So, how about it? [[User:Mewtwo777|I am Darth Mewtwo... Fear me, and my team made entirely of Mewtwo!!!]] 18:37, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

== Kyurem ==

Seems to me it's probably meant to be the trio master, consider: It's the "Boundary pokemon," probably meaning the one who maintains balance between Reshiram and Zekrom and apparently the game creators made it the one that could use {{m|Ice Burn|Cold Flare}} and {{m|Freeze Shock|Freeze Bolt}} (though apparently not officially), moves containing both types of the other two, they can't. Also it has higher HP. --—[[User:Venomoth|'''''V'''e№moth'']][[User talk:Venomoth| ♦]] 20:37, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
:It's too early to say. We'll have to wait for the third game or more info to come out first [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 20:49, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
May I point out that Kyurem's base stat total is lesser than that of zekrom and reshiram, so there might be a new one to fill that void as it would be hard for it to control those other two. Just a thought, mind you. We'll all find out eventually. [[User:Luxraychu|Luxraychu]] 00:02, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Whenever I join in a conversation, it dies. Awww... [[User:Luxraychu|Luxraychu]] 03:29, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

== Lake Trio ==
Is it possible Cresselia is the master of the Lake Trio? As stated above, in the Real History section, Cresselia did (possibly) create the trio, and as quoted from Cresselia's page, "Cresselia's three main colors (pink, yellow and blue) are the same as the main colors of the Lake guardians." It seems they also used the same shades of the above colors. In addition, they are all Psychic type. [[User:Mewtwo777|I am Darth Mewtwo... Fear me, and my team made entirely of Mewtwo!!!]] 22:12, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
:Hello? I would like an answer. [[User:Mewtwo777|I am Darth Mewtwo... Fear me, and my team made entirely of Mewtwo!!!]] 04:18, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
::Even if it is, there is not enough evidence that Cresselia is the Lake Trio's master. :/ --[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 04:26, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

==Legendary Golems==
Should it say some where that Regirock, Regice, Registeel, and Regigigas are all weak to fighting? Or does it already say that somewhere? ([[User:Plokool|Plokool]] 02:18, 27 October 2011 (UTC))

== Kyurem vs Cobalion ==

Since this new movie is featuring Kyurem and the musketeer Pokemon, is it possible that Kyurem is their master? Or is it to early to tell? Once we see the movie, if it turns out my theory is right, I think it's worth adding, but I suppose time will tell. [[User:Frenchhorn|Frenchhorn]] 03:57, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

:Besides the movie, what does Kyurem have in common with the musketeers? The types don't coincide ({{t|Flying}} for the [[Legendary birds]]), there is no historical connection ({{p|Ho-Oh}} bringing back the [[Legendary beasts]] after their death, Landorus stopping Thundurus and Tornadus, Arceus creating the creation trio and the lake guardian trio), there is no name similarity to make them slot straight in (Regi- Rock, Steel, Ice, Gigas), and there is no ability connection (Rayquaza's Air Lock to neutralise Kyogre and Groudon). There is no point speculating until Kyurem and Keldeo are given a proper spotlight in an upcoming game. '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|Toon Ganondorf ]] [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|(t]] [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|c)]]''' 22:27, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

== duo+master=/=trio ==

Doesn't "trio" imply three equal parts?
For example I find it silly that it's the "weather trio" when 2 of them cause weather, and the stronger one neutralizes it (not to mention the dozen other ways Rayquaza is superior to them, including a more intelligent guardian-like role, instead of wreaking havoc). A weather-duo with an anti-weather-guardian would be the right direction. Same for the cloud demons. And the musketeers; if anything Cobalion is at least part of the trio, Keldeo the adoptee is the one whos place in it is in the air for now. But even then, Cobalion being their master, based on its vague role in the family, with nothing else that would make it stick out in any way (unlike Keldeo) is too much. They don't have a master, just a student. Also the word master feels so misleading (it's not like they own or control each other), but.. there is no fitting word for meaningless obvious connections between legendaries that I know of.

I also want to note that the pokemon fanbase is exaggerating the creation myths/legends part of legendary pokemon when it comes to this kind of speculation (which may be what GF were aiming for though XD). The only things that really presents these creatures as supernatural beings with godlike powers, are their myths. The facts are simply that pokemon exist, who are stronger than usual and have some neat abilities (affecting the weather, manipulating dimensions a bit). They don't even show any sign of near human-like intelligence, actually they can happen to get caught into pokeballs by strong trainers and battle for them like usual (unless one considered anime canon, but its kind of hard to take serious when they disregard lots of things from the games and make up just as much own crap as they go along). Think of it that way; in the old times, some people witnessed a legendary like Groudon or Arceus, saw water evaporating wherever it went/saw it call a bunch of Unowns to make an egg or two fall out of the sky, and as they passed the info on, it turned into myth starring Groudon as the landmass god or Arceus as the creator of the universe. Same for the rest. They didn't create anything, they're just very rare/gone/hidden and best at manipulating specific things. Thanks for anyone who actually reads this, just had to vent it somewhere already Dx --[[User:Saiph charon|Saiph charon]] 15:14, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
:In regards to your opening sentence, the word "trio" just means "group of three", and in no way implies equality within the group. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:02, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
:: Well alright, but what makes the difference between the Regis being a trio with master instead of being a quartet, if not that the three share more similarities between each other than with Regigigas? If the Regis aren't a quartet then Groudon and Kyogre are a duo with a master/guardian (as they have so many similarities while Rayquaza sticks out as superior on multiple levels, even design-wise), same for the Kami. Also at the moment we have no idea what will become of Kyurem and how it really relates to the other 2, but in the current state they're not a trio by that logic (even if Kyurem gets buffed up, itd be a Rayquaza situation in the end).--[[User:Saiph charon|Saiph charon]] 11:03, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
:::Rayquaza doesn't really stick out from Groudon and Kyogre to me. They all have something to do with weather (neutralizing weather still involves weather), have similar markings, their movesets are even slightly similar. I can see how the Regis and Regigigas could be a quartet, except that Regigigas came out in a different generation. I feel like that sets it farther apart from the other Regis than Rayquaza is from Groudon and Kyogre. Plus, I find that the reference to Regigigas creating the Regi trio also sets it apart. If it created them, shouldn't it be their master and not part of their group? Like Ho-oh and the Legendary Beasts. These are just my opinions, though. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 11:15, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
::::It could have caused Sandstorm or Hail but instead it neutralizes weather, that is clearly superior. It doesnt wreak havoc, it steps in to calm the idiots down. It has 3 different colors of markings (red, black AND yellow) instead of just 1 (red or black). It has 2 types instead of 1. It has superior stats.... either everything ends up being part of a single octagesimaltet or its grouped by sharing the same amount of similarities. lol.--[[User:Saiph charon|Saiph charon]] 15:26, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

== Kyurem ==

Well B2W2 have been out for a while and I think it's safe to say {{p|Kyurem}} is the Tao Trio master.[[User:Micamike45|Micamike45]] ([[User talk:Micamike45|talk]]) 04:31, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
:Do you have any reason why it would be the master? [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 06:46, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
::Well, {{p|Kyurem}} seems to be the corpse of the original dragon. Kyurem can be combined with {{p|Zekrom}} to form Black Kyurem or with {{p|Reshiram}} to form White Kyurem with the DNA Splicers, which makes Kyrem seem dominant over the other two. It represents a boundary of some sort. It also wants to reunite with Zekrom and Reshiram. [[User:Micamike45|Micamike45]] ([[User talk:Micamike45|talk]]) 19:08, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
:::I disagree, it didn't display that it could have "dominated" them on its own. It was only with Team Plasma's intervention that it was able to, as otherwise it would not have had the DNA Splicers necessary for that to occur, nor the power to track down Reshiram/Zekrom. Black Kyurem and White Kyurem are more "proof" of Ghetsis (and later the player character) ruling over Reshiram/Zekrom than Kyurem doing so. Personally, I've never really liked the concept of "trio masters". People seem too eager to force things into these roles when they may or may not be fitting. But this is getting off-topic from my original comment. >.> Sorry for the rambling. [[User:RiverShock|RiverShock]] ([[User talk:RiverShock|talk]]) 02:23, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
::::The DNA Splicers are originally owned by Drayden not made by Team Plasma, so Black/White Kyurem could have been formed without Team Plasma's existence. I don't remember exactly how Drayden said he aquired them but I think he said they are passed down by his family which leaves their origin in question.[[User:Micamike45|Micamike45]] ([[User talk:Micamike45|talk]]) 23:33, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
:::::You missed the point. If Team Plasma hadn't stolen them, Kyurem would have never fused with Reshiram or Zekrom, or even been able to. Drayden had no reason or desire to use them, and I'm not even sure he knew what their use was. [[User:RiverShock|RiverShock]] ([[User talk:RiverShock|talk]]) 15:50, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
::::::I realize that, I'm just saying it's possible Kyurem could have fused with Reshiram/Zekrom in the past without Plasma's intervention since the DNA Splicers existed before Team Plasma. I will adimit though, that the DNA Splicers are probably human-made and not created by Kyurem or anything.[[User:Micamike45|Micamike45]] ([[User talk:Micamike45|talk]]) 02:22, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

== Meloetta the Kami Trio's Master ==

We've placed Landorus as the Kami Trio's in house Trio master...but wouldn't Meloetta also fit the bill since it controlled their transformation in the anime, and got them back under control after they went berserk.

I know its just in the anime, but we consider Lugia the bird trio's master and that was in a movie.

'''Evidence:''' Meloetta, like the Kami trio, also has a form change.

Meloetta is needed, at least in the anime, to help the Trio achieve their Therian Forme.

When all three went berserk, it was Meloetta who calmed them, and then changed them back to their Incarnate forme.

The evidence of Meloetta being the true Trio master is piling up. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 22:25, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

But the game doesn't have enough evidence to support that. Plus, they dont share similarities in origin. However, If you look at the base stats, Meloetta does have a base stat equivalent to landorus. However, I dont think there are very concrete evidence that support this. --[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] ([[User talk:Nobody777|talk]]) 03:45, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

:: We're not going by the games here; if we were going by the games then Lugia would be completely ousted as the Trio master for the legendary birds since the games have no evidence for it. Lugia's title was granted because of the movie a power of one, just as Meloetta's title should be granted [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:01, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

I really think this should be discussed. Meloetta, albeit in the anime only, is definitely fitting for the role. Also as I've mentioned, Lugia got its title from a movie which isn't much different than the anime. Meloetta is needed to call upon the trio to the ruins, transform them into their Therian forms, control them, calm them and turn them back to their Incarnate forms. It also (as pointed out by Nobody777) has the same stat total with other similarities such as gaining atk in their alternate forms. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 10:12, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
:This will not be discused, because Trio Masters are dictated by the games' canon. Since it's established in the games that Landorus is the Trio Master, there is no discussion in that regard. In the case of Lugia, there's no mention wether if it is or not, hence, another continuity's canon had to be adopted, since its role in the movie was fitting that of a Master. If the games said otherwise, it would be removed of this list. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 09:55, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

== Suggested merge ==

This is a fan term for a phenomenon that's only loosely present in the games, and no explicit connection/comparison between trio masters has (to my knowledge) ever been made in canon, suggesting to me that there is not a pressing need for them to be grouped together in the mainspace. Furthermore, virtually every instance of the subject matter itself is pretty debatable:
* Lugia is a trio master only in the anime
* Ho-Oh is a trio master only in the games
* Rayquaza and Landorus (and Kyurem, if you subscribe to that theory, which is mentioned in Trivia but not in the main body of the page) are already members of their trios, making them not quite fit the pattern
* Regigigas and Arceus are said to have created the trios they're supposedly "trio master" of, but there's otherwise no indication they actually have any sway over them the way other trio masters are supposed to
* The Swords of Justice are properly a quartet, not a trio, and if we're going to single any of them out, it should really be Keldeo since it's the one that ''canon actually does single out as different from the others'' (but more importantly, the Swords canonically don't fit the trio-and-master dynamic to begin with, so they shouldn't be here at all even if the page continues to exist)
So yeah, basically, I don't believe there's any actual canonical justification for this to be a mainspace page. I think we should do what we did with Electric rodents: pare it down to the essentials and use that to expand its section on [[Appendix:Fan terminology]]. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 20:02, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

:Months ago I brought up the issue for Landorus being given the title despite in the anime Meloetta having actual sway over how they take their other forms and the only response was a juvenile argument backed by no real evidence, and the Lugia evidence manipulated to fit their POV.

:I'm actually more in favor of abolishing this entire article, since it serves no real purpose and is nothing but speculation brought forth through fan head cannon and happenstance evidence weaker than an ounce of instant coffee in a water cooler. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 20:58, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
::I agree that this article/concept is too much of fanon. However, like "electric rodents", the concept of a "trio master" is popular enough in fanon that we'll have to document it somehow, but I don't think this quite warrants its own page either. I personally support a merge to the [[Appendix:Fan terminology]], this is the kind of thing that article is for. ''Popular'' fanon should be documented, but not treated like it's an official thing. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 22:05, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
:::Well, since its a page specifically for fandom stuff, I think it should be placed there. But the style of the article seems sterile, so what info would really be added that isn't already on the article to begin with?[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 23:29, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

== Other 'references' ==

I'm a little unsure about some of the things that appear in the {{DL|Trio master|other references to trio masters}} section. To me, some of them really don't seem like references at all, namely having to purify all of the Shadow Pokémon in Colosseum and having to befriend all 300 Pokémon in the Oblivia Browser in Guardian signs in order to encounter Ho-oh and Lugia, respectively. Yes, in each of these cases the befriending of a legendary trio is required to meet their master, but befriending the trio ''specifically'' is not. The three legendary birds are indeed needed to encounter Lugia in Guardian Signs, but so are 297 other Pokémon. That doesn't seem like much of a reference to me. It's not even like they're the only legendary trio that appear in the Oblivia Browser anyway. This also applies to the legendary golems in Shadows of Almia. I think that these three points should be removed from the page. [[User:Dannyboy601|Dannyboy601]] ([[User talk:Dannyboy601|talk]]) 16:34, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

== Why does this exist? ==

Why has this fanfiction page returned to dominance? It makes no sense to have this on every legendary page and only even begins to make sense by combining sources from difference canon. Lugia is not a "trio master" in the games and it's not a term that's ever even uttered in the anime or manga, any details that this page tells us can be told on the appropriate section of each Pokemons page (such as Lugias relation to the legendary birds in the anime). This is an eyesore on an otherwise factual and accurate wiki and needs to be mass deleted.[[User:Five|Five]] ([[User talk:Five|talk]]) 09:14, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
:I fully agree, but as far as I'm aware this has been brought up before and never gained much traction. We would need to get the approval of the {{bp|Editorial Board}} to delete it, so the most effective path forward might be to make your pitch on one of their talk pages in hopes of convincing them to discuss it. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:14, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

::I disagree, this page is useful in describing a recurring relationship between legendary Pokémon in the games. While I agree that Lugia's inclusion is perhaps questionable, the others are clearly trio masters. Ho-oh resurrected the dogs, regigagas is clearly the master of the regis, arceus created the creation and lake trio, Rayquaza and Landorus are clearly internal leaders. It's clear that whenever there's a trio, there's usually a clear external or internal leader/master/overseer (whatever you want to call them). I say that's noteworthy [[User:Jmvb|JMVB - I don't what to put here.]] ([[User talk:Jmvb|talk]]) 18:52, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
:::It's not canonical, though. It's all fan inferences. It belongs, at best, on [[Appendix:Fan terminology]], not in the mainspace. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:40, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
::::Perhaps it isn't canon. However, the issue for deletion is apparently "it is fanon and therefore does not belong in the mainspace." And if that is the reason, then [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/File:Project_Fandom_logo.png&limit=100 we had better be prepared to do quite a bit of deleting] for a reason that seems to be worded oddly. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 06:00, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
:::::Fanon =/= fandom. The vast majority of those pages are documenting the Pokémon fandom in real life and/or on the Internet. This page (and a small handful of pages on that list, like [[HM slave]]) is instead trying to describe something in the games that is entirely inferred or invented by fans. The latter category of pages, in my opinion, do not belong on a self-respecting encyclopedia like we hope to be. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:08, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
:::::Wiki's should always be factual, preferably with supporting evidence. My problem is that many articles on here now, this trio master stuff specifically, relies far too heavily on assumptions, theories and fan ideas, most of which only make sense if you assume anime rules and lore apply to the games, which is something we can say for 100% certainty is not the case. I can understand the argument that fanon has its place here, but it shouldn't be so prominent in the description for every single legendary. It's misleading, if not completely incorrect.[[User:Five|Five]] ([[User talk:Five|talk]]) 09:32, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
I agree that the page should be deleted. "Trio master" is not a defined, solid concept, and the relationships referred to on the page could easily be moved into a '''Relationships between Legendary Pokémon''' section of the Legendary Pokémon article. --[[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 10:07, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
:I'm really not sure you can call this "fanon". In fact, "fandom" really is more accurate. The only thing that's really not canon is the name "trio master", but that's what the unknown name template is for (and look just how many times it's used on this site). Each "master's" status over the respective trio are supported by canon. This relation between one more powerful Pokémon and a trio (or two others, thus creating a trio) isn't exactly disputable. It's mentioned time and time again, in game after game. [[User:Schiffy|I don't even give a Schif]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 22:04, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
This page should be deleted , but all links to this page should be removed beforehand to remove all traces of this article. And to make there be no red links. [[User:Boorider7|Boorider7]] ([[User talk:Boorider7|talk]]) 16:06, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
:Except the thing here that is truly non-canon is the term itself. Trio Masters are canon that has been made clear on different occasions such as with the weather trio. And even if the term is non-canon right now there is a good chance it can fall into official usage like Eeveelutions and Shiny Pokémon did. {{unsigned|Flain}}
::As far as I'm concerned, if we have endless pages on shipping, the whole fanon excuse to delete this page is bogus. Move it to an Appendix page, but not deletion. Trio Master relationships are canon in both the games and anime. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 05:38, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
:::This article should not be deleted, but the rules should be voted on as to what should be taken into consideration as to what qualifies a Pokémon to have such a title. Because it seems only a small group of people have decided what dictates the rules for a trio master, adopting and changing them as they see fit so as to keep the article to their liking. and because of this people with valid points are left without a voice and/or ignored altogether.

:::Alternatively we could rename the article since master isn't exactly the best description. maybe Trio Mediator would be a better name since Pokémon like Lugia and Rayquaza don't necessarily control as much as counterbalances the others. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 13:22, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

It should stay because it's describes a phenomenon that appear in pokemon games and media. Anime-only ones like Meloetta and Jigglypuff too must be included in a seperate part of this article.--[[User:Martianmister|Martianmister]] ([[User talk:Martianmister|talk]]) 13:03, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

== Rather than deleting this page, here's my take... ==

I think this page is necessary, and it already makes it clear that "trio master" is a fan term and not particularly elucidated by the games in every instance. While it can be argued Lugia, Ho-Oh, and Arceus being "trio masters" is fanon due to the fact that they only have very loose, very roundabout in-game associations with their respective trios, it is an established fact that Rayquaza is the master of the weather trio, Regigigas is the master of the titans, and Landorus is the master of the Forces of Nature. Each one of those either keeps the other members of its trio in check or created the members of its trio. Lugia on the other hand was only referenced in the game canon as tied to the legendary birds via Sea Spirit's Den, and otherwise, very much unrelated. Ho-Oh has absolutely nothing to do with the legendary beasts other than reviving them. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the three don't worship it, the three don't follow its commands, nor does anyone make a clear connection between the four. Arceus was the creator of the lake guardians and creation trio, but does that necessarily mean it itself is part of those trios? Like the prior examples, it is otherwise a standalone Pokemon with no common design/type/name themes. I think this page simply needs to be reworked rather than deleting it or considering it in its entirety as fanon.
[[User:Crunchdog29|Crunchdog29]] ([[User talk:Crunchdog29|talk]]) 04:52, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

== The page should stay... ==

I think that the page should stay, but it's only a personal opinion. The page might be mostly fanon, but it still contains a lot of canon information, such as how Arceus created the creation trio. --[[User:AngelicEspeon|AngelicEspeon]] ([[User talk:AngelicEspeon|talk]]) 20:18, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

== Are legendary pokemon mythos not goofy speculations? ==

From the beginning, Legendaries were for fun and challenge. The birds were hard to find, hard to catch. Should these beings not have higher authorities within their worlds? The idea of Mythical Pokémon being seperate from legendaries is mostly fan-founded as well! This page has a place, if only under meta or fandom.
[[User:AmbipomContestant|AmbipomContestant]] ([[User talk:AmbipomContestant|talk]]) 03:36, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
:Okay what was the point you were trying to make?[[User:Flain|Flain]] ([[User talk:Flain|talk]]) 16:42, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

== Please delete this article! ==

It is too fan-speculatey to exist!{{unsigned|Gmaxwell}}

== Removing the Legendary Golems ==

Since {{p|Regieleki}} and {{p|Regidrago}} have been announced, should the [[Legendary Golems]] be removed from this page? {{p|Regigigas}} is now a quintet master instead of a trio master. [[User:Ratboy Jr.|Ratboy Jr.]] ([[User talk:Ratboy Jr.|talk]]) 01:27, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
:At this point, I think we need to wait for more background for them to determine whether we should just remove it from every trio related page. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 05:15, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
::Just remove {{p|Regieleki}} and {{p|Regidrago}} from the Golems section and leave the Hoenn regis if you want them to be a trio. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 02:41, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

The Isle of Armor

2020-06-17T20:32:38Z

SeanWheeler: /* Returning Pokémon */

{{search|{{wp|Downloadable content|expansion}} for [[Pokémon Sword and Shield]]|the location in the [[Galar]] region|Isle of Armor}}
[[File:The Isle of Armor logo.png|thumb|250px|Logo]]
'''The Isle of Armor''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|鎧の孤島|よろいのことう}}''' ''The Solitary Island of Armor'') is the first expansion in the [[Pokémon Sword and Shield Expansion Pass]]. Featuring the [[Isle of Armor]], the theme of the expansion is "growth". It was released on June 17, 2020.

It will be followed by [[The Crown Tundra]].

==Features==
[[File:The Isle of Armor Key Art.png|thumb|250px|Key Visual]]
===Characters===
The characters [[Mustard]] and [[Klara]]{{sup/8|Sw}}/[[Avery]]{{sup/8|Sh}} appeared, as well as Honey, Mustard's wife.

===Pokémon===
A patch was released in conjunction with the launch of ''The Isle of Armor''. Players can access these new and returning Pokémon even if they have not purchased the Expansion Pass with the help of [[trade|trading]] and [[Pokémon HOME]]. Pokémon found in the wild and those owned by other trainers in ''The Isle of Armor'' will be scaled to a player's team, this will be based off of levels.

====New Pokémon and forms====
The [[Legendary Pokémon]] {{p|Kubfu}} and {{p|Urshifu}} debut in ''The Isle of Armor''.

{{rf|Galarian}} {{p|Slowpoke}} can be evolved into Galarian {{p|Slowbro}} using The Galarica Cuff, an item found in the Isle of Armor.

====Returning Pokémon====
Over 100 old Pokémon were made available in [[Pokémon Sword and Shield]] with the release of ''The Isle of Armor''. These include:

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{{rdex||027|Sandshrew|1|Ground}}
{{rdex||027A|Sandshrew|2|Ice|Steel}}
{{rdex||028|Sandslash|1|Ground}}
{{rdex||028A|Sandslash|2|Ice|Steel}}
{{rdex|012|039|Jigglypuff|2|Normal|Fairy}}
{{rdex|013|040|Wigglytuff|2|Normal|Fairy}}
{{rdex|146|054|Psyduck|1|Water}}
{{rdex|147|055|Golduck|1|Water}}
{{rdex|142|060|Poliwag|1|Water}}
{{rdex|143|061|Poliwhirl|1|Water}}
{{rdex|144|062|Poliwrath|2|Water|Fighting}}
{{rdex||063|Abra|1|Psychic}}
{{rdex||064|Kadabra|1|Psychic}}
{{rdex||065|Alakazam|1|Psychic}}
{{rdex|040|072|Tentacool|2|Water|Poison}}
{{rdex|041|073|Tentacruel|2|Water|Poison}}
{{rdex|001|079|Slowpoke|2|Water|Psychic}}
{{rdex|002|080|Slowbro|2|Water|Psychic}}
{{rdex||081|Magnemite|2|Electric|Steel}}
{{rdex||082|Magneton|2|Electric|Steel}}
{{rdex||102|Exeggcute|2|Grass|Psychic}}
{{rdex||103|Exeggutor|2|Grass|Psychic}}
{{rdex||103A|Exeggutor|2|Grass|Dragon}}
{{rdex||104|Cubone|1|Ground}}
{{rdex||105|Marowak|1|Ground}}
{{rdex||105A|Marowak|2|Fire|Ghost}}
{{rdex||108|Lickitung|1|Normal}}
{{rdex|007|113|Chansey|1|Normal}}
{{rdex|080|114|Tangela|1|Grass}}
{{rdex||115|Kangaskhan|1|Normal}}
{{rdex|198|116|Horsea|1|Water}}
{{rdex|199|117|Seadra|1|Water}}
{{rdex|098|120|Staryu|1|Water}}
{{rdex|099|121|Starmie|2|Water|Psychic}}
{{rdex||123|Scyther|2|Bug|Flying}}
{{rdex|116|128|Tauros|1|Normal}}
{{rdex||137|Porygon|1|Normal}}
{{rdex|011|174|Igglybuff|2|Normal|Fairy}}
{{rdex||183|Marill|2|Water|Fairy}}
{{rdex||184|Azumarill|2|Water|Fairy}}
{{rdex||186|Politoed|1|Water}}
{{rdex|003|199|Slowking|2|Water|Psychic}}
{{rdex|052|206|Dunsparce|1|Normal}}
{{rdex||212|Scizor|2|Bug|Steel}}
{{rdex||214|Heracross|2|Bug|Fighting}}
{{rdex||227|Skarmory|2|Steel|Flying}}
{{rdex|200|230|Kingdra|2|Water|Dragon}}
{{rdex||233|Porygon2|1|Normal}}
{{rdex|117|241|Miltank|1|Normal}}
{{rdex|008|242|Blissey|1|Normal}}
{{rdex|148|293|Whismur|1|Normal}}
{{rdex|149|294|Loudred|1|Normal}}
{{rdex|150|295|Exploud|1|Normal}}
{{rdex||298|Azurill|2|Normal|Fairy}}
{{rdex|111|318|Carvanha|2|Water|Dark}}
{{rdex|112|319|Sharpedo|2|Water|Dark}}
{{rdex|025|403|Shinx|1|Electric}}
{{rdex|026|404|Luxio|1|Electric}}
{{rdex|027|405|Luxray|1|Electric}}
{{rdex|004|427|Buneary|1|Normal}}
{{rdex|005|428|Lopunny|1|Normal}}
{{rdex|006|440|Happiny|1|Normal}}
{{rdex||462|Magnezone|2|Electric|Steel}}
{{rdex||463|Lickilicky|1|Normal}}
{{rdex|081|465|Tangrowth|1|Grass}}
{{rdex||474|Porygon-Z|1|Normal}}
{{rdex|113|506|Lillipup|1|Normal}}
{{rdex|114|507|Herdier|1|Normal}}
{{rdex|115|508|Stoutland|1|Normal}}
{{rdex|074|543|Venipede|2|Bug|Poison}}
{{rdex|075|544|Whirlipede|2|Bug|Poison}}
{{rdex|076|545|Scolipede|2|Bug|Poison}}
{{rdex|201|548|Petilil|1|Grass}}
{{rdex|202|549|Lilligant|1|Grass}}
{{rdex||551|Sandile|2|Ground|Dark}}
{{rdex||552|Krokorok|2|Ground|Dark}}
{{rdex||553|Krookodile|2|Ground|Dark}}
{{rdex||570|Zorua|1|Dark}}
{{rdex||571|Zoroark|1|Dark}}
{{rdex||587|Emolga|2|Electric|Flying}}
{{rdex|077|590|Foongus|2|Grass|Poison}}
{{rdex|078|591|Amoonguss|2|Grass|Poison}}
{{rdex|163|619|Mienfoo|1|Fighting}}
{{rdex|164|620|Mienshao|1|Fighting}}
{{rdex||621|Druddigon|1|Dragon}}
{{rdex|053|626|Bouffalant|1|Normal}}
{{rdex||636|Larvesta|2|Bug|Fire}}
{{rdex||637|Volcarona|2|Bug|Fire}}
{{rdex|022|661|Fletchling|2|Normal|Flying}}
{{rdex|023|662|Fletchinder|2|Fire|Flying}}
{{rdex|024|663|Talonflame|2|Fire|Flying}}
{{rdex||690|Skrelp|2|Poison|Water}}
{{rdex||691|Dragalge|2|Poison|Dragon}}
{{rdex||692|Clauncher|1|Water}}
{{rdex||693|Clawitzer|1|Water}}
{{rdex||702|Dedenne|2|Electric|Fairy}}
{{rdex|028|707|Klefki|2|Steel|Fairy}}
{{rdex||744|Rockruff|1|Rock}}
{{rdex||745|Lycanroc|1|Rock}}
{{rdex||745Mn|Lycanroc|1|Rock}}
{{rdex||745D|Lycanroc|1|Rock}}
{{rdex|017|753|Fomantis|1|Grass}}
{{rdex|018|754|Lurantis|1|Grass}}
{{rdex|079|764|Comfey|1|Fairy}}
{{rdex||769|Sandygast|2|Ground|Ghost}}
{{rdex||770|Palossand|2|Ground|Ghost}}
{{rdex||801|Magearna|2|Steel|Fairy}}
|}

===Gigantamax===
[[File:SwShIoA Prerelease Max Soup.png|thumb|250px|A bowl of Max Soup]]
New [[Gigantamax]] forms were introduced. This includes {{p|Venusaur}}, {{p|Blastoise}}, {{p|Rillaboom}}, {{p|Cinderace}}, and {{p|Inteleon}}. The new Pokémon Urshifu also has two different Gigantamax forms.

Additionally, this expansion allows the {{player}} to feed Pokémon traveling with them Max Soup, giving them the ability to Gigantamax, but only Pokémon with "great hidden potential" can gain the Gigantamax Factor using this method, such as [[starter Pokémon]].<ref>[https://swordshield.pokemon.com/en-us/expansionpass/pokemon/#firstpartners Official Pokémon Sword and Shield minisite | Newly discovered Pokémon]</ref><ref>[https://swordshield.pokemon.com/en-us/expansionpass/features Official Pokémon Sword and Shield minisite | New features to spice up your adenture]</ref>

===Items===
[[Apricorn]]s have made a return, and can be made into [[Poké Ball]]s. The [[Exp. Charm]] will increase the [[Experience|Exp. Points]] earned by the player's [[party]].

===Moves===
Additional [[Move Tutor]] moves are available in the Master Dojo, including new moves such as ''Terrain Pulse'' or ''Burning Jealousy''.

===Customization===
The protagonist can wear training clothes. New fashion items are also available. The [[Rotom Bike]] can also be customized further than before by adding different colours and trails depending on which colour bike you choose to have. The colour and trail can be changed by a lady outside of the Dojo foundo n the island

===The Cram-o-matic===
Inside the dojo on the Isle of Armor, in Mustard's room the player can find the Cram-o-matic, a robot resembling a {{p|Cramorant}}, made by Mustard's son, which can be fed four items that can be fused to create a new item.

===Restricted Sparring===
{{main|Restricted Sparring}}
Restricted Sparring is a special battle feature in which participants are limited in the types of Pokémon they can use and are forced to battle under set conditions.

===Side quests===
There are side quests that can be done at the Isle of Armor. So far, one known side quest involves searching for 150 {{rf|Alolan}} {{p|Diglett}} across the Isle of Armor.

==In other languages==
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|zh_yue=鎧之孤島 ''{{tt|Hói-jī Gūdóu|The Solitary Island of Armor}}''
|zh_cmn=鎧之孤島 / 铠之孤岛 ''{{tt|Kǎi-zhī Gūdǎo|The Solitary Island of Armor}}''
|fr=L'île solitaire de l'Armure
|de=Die Insel der Rüstung
|it=L'isola solitaria dell'armatura
|ko=갑옷의 외딴섬 ''{{tt|Gabosui Oettanseom|The Solitary Island of Armor}}''
|ru=Бронированный Остров ''Bronirovannyy Ostrov''{{tt|*|Official website}} Остров доспехов ''Ostrov dospekhov''{{tt|*|Press release}}
|es=La isla de la armadura
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==References==
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[[Category:Pokémon Sword and Shield]]

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Talk:List of cross-generational evolutionary lines

2020-06-05T04:48:48Z

SeanWheeler: /* Regional Forms */

==Sprites to official art?==
Considering the switch from sprites to art in the evolution sections, should we use the art instead of sprites on this page as well? - [[User:050294|050294]] ([[User talk:050294|talk]]) 03:59, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
:I think we should, for consistency's sake. {{unsigned|WyndFox}}
::Staff approved. I'm editing it now.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:43, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

== Porygon Trivia ==

Sorry the wording might be a bit poor, but I definitely think it is note-worthy since no other Pokemon has ever had an evolution introduced that could evolve yet again in another generation. It might even be prudent to add this trivia to Porygon's page, but I'll see how it fairs here first. [[User:Swiftgallade46|Swiftgallade46]] ([[User talk:Swiftgallade46|talk]]) 02:31, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

== Mega evolutions? + request ==

First post here. I feel like it's necessary that this page include mega-evolutions as well. Could someone (anyone), with more editing creds include the mega evolutions, like the Charizardites?

I've tried editing pages before, but usually mess up, and someone has to fix it for me, or they just erase my changes. {{unsigned|Camelsnake}}
:Bulbapedia does not consider Mega Evolutions to be the same thing as evolutions. The word "evolution" in their name is the only thing they have in common; they are totally different both in game function and in flavor text/lore. Mega Evolved Pokémon do not belong on this page. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:16, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

== Galar Evolutions ==

Its been about a few weeks since Sword and Shield came out, and was wondering if we could get this page edited to have the generation 8 pokemon that got evolutions via Galar forms {{unsigned|Burgorton}}
:It's already been updated. Only the ones that go from regular to regional forms should count, as they go from Gen I (or IV in Mime Jr.'s case) design to Gen VIII design, rather than Gen VIII to Gen VIII.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:46, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
::I think all regional forms should be included in this list even if we need to move the page to something like List of cross-generational evolution families. IMO, the Rattata family received new members in Generation VII just as much as the Exeggcute family did.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:27, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
:::I don't think we should count Alolan forms and Galarian forms as new Pokémon. They have the same numbers as their original forms. Alolan {{p|Exeggutor}} is still a Kantonian Pokémon as far as the National Dex is concerned. And this page treating Galarian forms as Gen VIII Pokémon meant it excludes {{p|Obstagoon}} and {{p|Sirfetch'd}}, which were two advertised cross-generation evolutions for Sword and Shield. And besides, the methods of evolving these Pokémon into their Alolan and Galarian forms are the same methods as normal. Pikachu evolves into both kinds of Raichu with a Thunderstone. It just has to be in Alola to be the Psychic-type. Exeggcute evolves into Exeggutor with a Leaf Stone anywhere. It just gets a longer neck in Alola. Alolan Marowak has an extra requirement to be nighttime but I don't think that qualifies as a crossgen evolution. Weezing gets a new form in Galar, but Koffing evolves into it at level 35 the same as the Kantonian Weezing. These regional variants do not belong on this page unless they are the forms required to evolve into Obstagoon, Sirfetch'd, Mr. Rime and Cursola. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 04:40, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
The only problem with this is that Alolan Formes are still recognized as simply forms of the original pokemon, despite certain things such as different ways of evolution. Let's Go proves this by having all Alolan forms return since they are kanto pokemon. Galar Evolutions also do not have their own page, and it would be excessive not to put them on this page. {{unsigned|Burgorton}}

{{indent}}Yeah, we should just treat the Galar forms and Alolan forms as the original Pokémon. The black and white Zigzagoon that evolves into Obstagoon in Galar is still a Gen III Hoenn Pokémon in a new form. Obstagoon is a Gen VIII Galar Pokémon. That's a cross generational evolution. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 04:44, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

== Mr. Rime ==

Sure it evolves from a Galar Pokémon, but it still is a part of a crossgenerational family. That's like saying we should remove Oddish from this article because it evolves into a Kanto Pokémon. [[User:Mr. Daikon|Mr. Daikon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Daikon|talk]]) 05:29, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

== Regional Forms ==

Should other [[Regional form|Regional Forms]] be added to this page? {{p|Meowth|Meowth's}} Alolan form is on this page and it doesn't evolve into a different [[Pokémon (species)|Pokémon]]. Shouldn't we do that for the others? [[User:Ratboy Jr.|Ratboy Jr.]] ([[User talk:Ratboy Jr.|talk]]) 19:39, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
:I agree with you, this article is about cross-generation species, if {{rf|Alolan}} {{p|Exeggutor}} fits the criteria, the same should apply for all the Regional forms. [[User:TossedDwarf5019|TossedDwarf5019]] ([[User talk:TossedDwarf5019|talk]]) 20:06, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
:Actually the ''whole'' Meowth family is on this page because of {{p|Perrserker}} whick is a individual species. Anyway Alolan Exeggutor, Alolan {{p|Marowak}} and {{rf|Galarian}} {{p|Weezing}} aren't individual species and still are on the page. [[User:TossedDwarf5019|TossedDwarf5019]] ([[User talk:TossedDwarf5019|talk]]) 20:37, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
::I want the Alolan forms off this page. The only regional forms that are relevant are the Galarian forms that evolve into new Pokémon. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 04:48, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

User:SeanWheeler/Trainer use

2020-05-11T22:22:57Z

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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove3-6-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove3-6-4|}}}}}|—}}
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{{#if:{{{rbclass4|}}}|
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove4-1-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove4-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove4-1-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove4-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove4-1-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove4-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
! {{#if:{{{rblv4-6|}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv4-5|}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv4-4|}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv4-3|}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv4-2|}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rbnotes4|}}}
{{#if:{{{rblv4-2|}}}|
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv4-2|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove4-2-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove4-2-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove4-2-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove4-2-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove4-2-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove4-2-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove4-2-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove4-2-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv4-3|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv4-3|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove4-3-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove4-3-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove4-3-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove4-3-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove4-3-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove4-3-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove4-3-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove4-3-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv4-4|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv4-4|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove4-4-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove4-4-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove4-4-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove4-4-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove4-4-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove4-4-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove4-4-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove4-4-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv4-5|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv4-5|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove4-5-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove4-5-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove4-5-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove4-5-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove4-5-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove4-5-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove4-5-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove4-5-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv4-6|}}}|
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove4-6-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove4-6-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove4-6-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove4-6-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove4-6-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove4-6-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove4-6-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove4-6-4|}}}}}|—}}
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{{#if:{{{rbclass5|}}}|
{{!}}-
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove5-1-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove5-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove5-1-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove5-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove5-1-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove5-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
! {{#if:{{{rblv5-6|}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv5-5|}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv5-4|}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv5-3|}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv5-2|}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rbnotes5|}}}
{{#if:{{{rblv5-2|}}}|
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove5-2-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove5-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove5-2-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove5-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove5-2-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove5-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv5-3|}}}|
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv5-3|1}}}
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove5-3-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove5-3-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove5-3-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove5-3-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove5-3-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove5-3-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv5-4|}}}|
{{!}}-
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove5-5-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove5-5-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove5-5-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove5-5-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove5-5-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove5-5-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv5-6|}}}|
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv5-6|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove5-6-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove5-6-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove5-6-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove5-6-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove5-6-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove5-6-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove5-6-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-6-4|}}}}}|—}}
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{{#if:{{{rbclass6|}}}|
{{!}}-
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv6-1|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove6-1-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove6-1-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove6-1-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove6-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove6-1-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove6-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove6-1-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove6-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
! {{#if:{{{rblv6-6|}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv6-5|}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv6-4|}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv6-3|}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv6-2|}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rbnotes6|}}}
{{#if:{{{rblv6-2|}}}|
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv6-2|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove6-2-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove6-2-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove6-2-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove6-2-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove6-2-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove6-2-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove6-2-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove6-2-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv6-3|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv6-3|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove6-3-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove6-3-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove6-3-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove6-3-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove6-3-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove6-3-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove6-3-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove6-3-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv6-4|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv6-4|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove6-4-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove6-4-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove6-4-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove6-4-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove6-4-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove6-4-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove6-4-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove6-4-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv6-5|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv6-5|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove6-5-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove6-5-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove6-5-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove6-5-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove6-5-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove6-5-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove6-5-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove6-5-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv6-6|}}}|
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove6-6-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove6-6-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove6-6-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove6-6-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove6-6-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove6-6-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove6-6-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove6-6-4|}}}}}|—}}
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{{#if:{{{rbclass7|}}}|
{{!}}-
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! {{#if:{{{rblv7-6|}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv7-5|}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv7-4|}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv7-3|}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv7-2|}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{rbclass7|}}}}}|ace trainer|ace trainer♂|ace|ace♂|acetrainer|acetrainer♂|cool trainer|cool trainer♂|cool|cool♂|cooltrainer|cooltrainer♂=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|ace trainer♀|ace♀|acetrainer♀|cool trainer♀|cool♀|cooltrainer♀=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|beauty=[[Beauty (Trainer class)|BEAUTY]]|biker=[[Biker (Trainer class)|BIKER]]|bird keeper|birdkeeper=[[Bird Keeper (Trainer class)|BIRDKEEPER]]|black belt|blackbelt=[[Black Belt (Trainer class)|BLACKBELT]]|bug catcher|bugcatcher=[[Bug Catcher (Trainer class)|BUG CATCHER]]|burglar=[[Burglar (Trainer class)|BURGLAR]]|camper|jr trainer♂|jr. trainer♂|jr♂|junior trainer♂=[[Camper (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♂]]|rival|blue|champion=[[Blue (game)|BLUE]]|channeler=[[Channeler (Trainer class)|CHANNELER]]|cue ball|roughneck=[[Roughneck (Trainer class)|CUE BALL]]|lorelei=[[Lorelei|LORELEI]]|bruno=[[Bruno|BRUNO]]|agatha=[[Agatha|AGATHA]]|lance=[[Lance|LANCE]]|engineer=[[engineer (Trainer class)|ENGINEER]]|fisher|fisherman=[[Fisherman (Trainer class)|FISHERMAN]]|gamer|gambler|pi=[[PI (Trainer class)|GAMBLER]]|gentleman=[[Gentleman (Trainer class)|GENTLEMAN]]|hiker=[[Hiker (Trainer class)|HIKER]]|juggler=[[Juggler (Trainer class)|JUGGLER]]|lass=[[Lass (Trainer class)|LASS]]|brock=[[Brock|BROCK]]|misty=[[Misty|MISTY]]|lt surge|surge|lieutenant surge|lt. surge=[[Lt. Surge|LT. Surge]]|erika=[[Erika|ERIKA]]|koga=[[Koga|KOGA]]|sabrina=[[Sabrina|SABRINA]]|blaine=[[Blaine|BLAINE]]|picnicker|jr trainer♀|jr♀|junior trainer♀|jr. trainer♀=[[Picnicker (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♀]]|pokemaniac|pokémaniac|poke maniac|poké maniac=[[Poké Maniac (Trainer class)|POKéMANIAC]]|psychic=[[Psychic (Trainer class)|PSYCHIC]]|rocker=[[Rocker (Trainer class)|ROCKER]]|team rocket boss|rocket boss|boss|rocket leader|team rocket leader|giovanni=[[Giovanni)|GIOVANNI]]|sailor=[[Sailor (Trainer class)|SAILOR]]|scientist=[[Scientist (Trainer class)|SCIENTIST]]|super nerd|nerd|supernerd=[[Super Nerd (Trainer class)|SUPER NERD]]|swimmer♂=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♂]]|swimmer♀=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♀]]|tamer=[[Tamer (Trainer class)|TAMER]]|rocket|team rocket|team rocket grunt=[[Team Rocket Grunt (Trainer class)|ROCKET]]|youngster=[[Youngster (Trainer class)|YOUNGSTER]]|[[Pokémon Trainer|{{PK}}{{MN}} TRAINER]]}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv7-1|1}}}
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove7-1-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove7-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove7-1-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove7-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove7-1-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove7-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
! {{#if:{{{rblv7-6|}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv7-5|}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv7-4|}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv7-3|}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv7-2|}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rbnotes7|}}}
{{#if:{{{rblv7-2|}}}|
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove7-2-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove7-2-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove7-2-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove7-2-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv7-3|}}}|
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove7-3-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove7-3-3|}}}}}|—}}
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove7-4-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove7-4-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove7-4-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove7-4-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove7-4-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove7-4-4|}}}}}|—}}
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove7-5-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove7-4-2|}}}}}|—}}
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove7-5-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove7-4-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv7-6|}}}|
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove7-6-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove7-6-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove7-6-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove7-6-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove7-6-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove7-6-4|}}}}}|—}}
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{{#if:{{{rbclass8|}}}|
{{!}}-
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove8-1-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove8-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
! {{#if:{{{rblv8-6|}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv8-5|}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv8-4|}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv8-3|}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv8-2|}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rbnotes8|}}}
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove8-2-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove8-2-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove8-2-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove8-2-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove8-2-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove8-2-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv8-3|}}}|
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{{#if:{{{rblv8-4|}}}|
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove8-4-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove8-4-4|}}}}}|—}}
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{{#if:{{{rbclass9|}}}|
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove9-3-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove9-3-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove9-3-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove9-3-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove9-3-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove9-3-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove9-3-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove9-3-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv9-4|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv9-4|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove9-4-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove9-4-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove9-4-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove9-4-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove9-4-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove9-4-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove9-4-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove9-4-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv9-5|}}}|
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv9-5|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove9-5-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove9-5-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove9-5-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove9-5-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove9-5-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove9-5-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove9-5-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove9-5-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv9-6|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv9-6|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove9-6-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove9-6-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove9-6-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove9-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove9-6-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove9-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove9-6-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove9-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
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{{#if:{{{rbclass10|}}}|
{{!}}-
! {{#if:{{{rblv10-6|}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv10-5|}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv10-4|}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv10-3|}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv10-2|}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{rblocation10|}}}}}|1|route 1={{rt|1|Kanto}}|2|route 2={{rt|2|Kanto}}|3|route 3={{rt|3|Kanto}}|4|route 4={{rt|4|Kanto}}|5|route 5={{rt|5|Kanto}}|6|route 6={{rt|6|Kanto}}|7|route 7={{rt|7|Kanto}}|8|route 8={{rt|8|Kanto}}|9|route 9={{rt|9|Kanto}}|10|route 10={{rt|10|Kanto}}|11|route 11={{rt|11|Kanto}}|12|route 12={{rt|12|Kanto}}|13|route 13={{rt|13|Kanto}}|14|route 14={{rt|14|Kanto}}|15|route 15={{rt|15|Kanto}}|16|route 16={{rt|16|Kanto}}|17|route 17={{rt|17|Kanto}}|18|route 18={{rt|18|Kanto}}|19|route 19={{rt|19|Kanto}}|20|route 20={{rt|20|Kanto}}|21|route 21={{rt|21|Kanto}}|22|route 22={{rt|22|Kanto}}|23|route 23={{rt|23|Kanto}}|24|route 24={{rt|24|Kanto}}|25|route 25={{rt|25|Kanto}}|pewter gym=[[Pewter Gym]]|cerulean gym=[[Cerulean Gym]]|vermilion gym=[[Vermilion Gym]]|celadon gym=[[Celadon Gym]]|fuschia gym=[[Fuschia Gym]]|saffron gym=[[Saffron Gym]]|cinnabar gym=[[Cinnabar Gym]]|viridian gym=[[Viridian Gym]]|pallet|pallet town=[[Pallet Town]]|oak lab|prof oak's lab|professor oak's laboratory=[[Professor Oak's Laboratory|Prof. Oak's Lab]]|viridian|viridian city=[[Viridian City]]|pewter|pewter city=[[Pewter City]]|cerulean|cerulean city=[[Cerulean City]]|vermilion|vermilion city=[[Vermilion City]]|saffron|saffron city=[[Saffron City]]|fighting dojo=[[Fighting Dojo]]|lavender|lavender town=[[Lavender Town]]|fuschia|fuschia city=[[Fuscia City]]|cinnabar|cinnabar island=[[Cinnabar Island]]|indigo plateau=[[Indigo Plateau]]|viridian forest=[[Viridian Forest]]|mt moon|mt. moon|mount moon=[[Mt. Moon]]|diglett's cave=[[Diglett's Cave]]|ss anne|st anne|s.s. anne=[[S.S. Anne]]|rock tunnel=[[Rock Tunnel]]|silph|silph co|silphco|silph co.=Silph Co|power plant=[[Power Plant]]|pokemon tower|pokémon tower=Pokémon Tower|safari|safari zone={{safari|Kanto}}|seafoam island|seafoam|seafoam islands=[[Seafoam Islands]]|pokemon mansion|pokémon mansion=[[Pokémon Mansion]]|victory road={{ka|Victory Road}}|unknown dungeon|cerulean cave=[[Cerulean Cave]]|Unknown}}
! {{#if:{{{rblv1-6|}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-5|}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-4|}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-3|}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-2|}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{rbclass10|}}}}}|ace trainer|ace trainer♂|ace|ace♂|acetrainer|acetrainer♂|cool trainer|cool trainer♂|cool|cool♂|cooltrainer|cooltrainer♂=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|ace trainer♀|ace♀|acetrainer♀|cool trainer♀|cool♀|cooltrainer♀=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|beauty=[[Beauty (Trainer class)|BEAUTY]]|biker=[[Biker (Trainer class)|BIKER]]|bird keeper|birdkeeper=[[Bird Keeper (Trainer class)|BIRDKEEPER]]|black belt|blackbelt=[[Black Belt (Trainer class)|BLACKBELT]]|bug catcher|bugcatcher=[[Bug Catcher (Trainer class)|BUG CATCHER]]|burglar=[[Burglar (Trainer class)|BURGLAR]]|camper|jr trainer♂|jr. trainer♂|jr♂|junior trainer♂=[[Camper (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♂]]|rival|blue|champion=[[Blue (game)|BLUE]]|channeler=[[Channeler (Trainer class)|CHANNELER]]|cue ball|roughneck=[[Roughneck (Trainer class)|CUE BALL]]|lorelei=[[Lorelei|LORELEI]]|bruno=[[Bruno|BRUNO]]|agatha=[[Agatha|AGATHA]]|lance=[[Lance|LANCE]]|engineer=[[engineer (Trainer class)|ENGINEER]]|fisher|fisherman=[[Fisherman (Trainer class)|FISHERMAN]]|gamer|gambler|pi=[[PI (Trainer class)|GAMBLER]]|gentleman=[[Gentleman (Trainer class)|GENTLEMAN]]|hiker=[[Hiker (Trainer class)|HIKER]]|juggler=[[Juggler (Trainer class)|JUGGLER]]|lass=[[Lass (Trainer class)|LASS]]|brock=[[Brock|BROCK]]|misty=[[Misty|MISTY]]|lt surge|surge|lieutenant surge|lt. surge=[[Lt. Surge|LT. Surge]]|erika=[[Erika|ERIKA]]|koga=[[Koga|KOGA]]|sabrina=[[Sabrina|SABRINA]]|blaine=[[Blaine|BLAINE]]|picnicker|jr trainer♀|jr♀|junior trainer♀|jr. trainer♀=[[Picnicker (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♀]]|pokemaniac|pokémaniac|poke maniac|poké maniac=[[Poké Maniac (Trainer class)|POKéMANIAC]]|psychic=[[Psychic (Trainer class)|PSYCHIC]]|rocker=[[Rocker (Trainer class)|ROCKER]]|team rocket boss|rocket boss|boss|rocket leader|team rocket leader|giovanni=[[Giovanni)|GIOVANNI]]|sailor=[[Sailor (Trainer class)|SAILOR]]|scientist=[[Scientist (Trainer class)|SCIENTIST]]|super nerd|nerd|supernerd=[[Super Nerd (Trainer class)|SUPER NERD]]|swimmer♂=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♂]]|swimmer♀=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♀]]|tamer=[[Tamer (Trainer class)|TAMER]]|rocket|team rocket|team rocket grunt=[[Team Rocket Grunt (Trainer class)|ROCKET]]|youngster=[[Youngster (Trainer class)|YOUNGSTER]]|[[Pokémon Trainer|{{PK}}{{MN}} TRAINER]]}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv10-1|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove10-1-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove10-1-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove10-1-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove10-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove10-1-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove10-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove10-1-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove10-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
! {{#if:{{{rblv1-6|}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-5|}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-4|}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-3|}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-2|}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rbnotes11|}}}
{{#if:{{{rblv10-2|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv1-2|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove10-2-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove10-2-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove10-2-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove10-2-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove10-2-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove10-2-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove10-2-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove10-2-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv10-3|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv1-3|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove10-3-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove10-3-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove10-3-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove10-3-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove10-3-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove10-3-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove10-3-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove10-3-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv10-4|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv1-4|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove10-4-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove10-4-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove10-4-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove10-4-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove10-4-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove10-4-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove10-4-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove10-4-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv10-5|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv1-5|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove10-5-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove10-5-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove10-5-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove10-5-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove10-5-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove10-5-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove10-5-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove10-5-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv10-6|}}}|
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv1-6|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove10-6-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove10-6-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove10-6-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove10-6-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove10-6-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove10-6-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove10-6-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove10-6-4|}}}}}|—}}
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{{#if:{{{rbclass11|}}}|
{{!}}-
! {{#if:{{{rblv11-6|}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv11-5|}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv11-4|}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv11-3|}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv11-2|}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{rblocation11|}}}}}|1|route 1={{rt|1|Kanto}}|2|route 2={{rt|2|Kanto}}|3|route 3={{rt|3|Kanto}}|4|route 4={{rt|4|Kanto}}|5|route 5={{rt|5|Kanto}}|6|route 6={{rt|6|Kanto}}|7|route 7={{rt|7|Kanto}}|8|route 8={{rt|8|Kanto}}|9|route 9={{rt|9|Kanto}}|10|route 10={{rt|10|Kanto}}|11|route 11={{rt|11|Kanto}}|12|route 12={{rt|12|Kanto}}|13|route 13={{rt|13|Kanto}}|14|route 14={{rt|14|Kanto}}|15|route 15={{rt|15|Kanto}}|16|route 16={{rt|16|Kanto}}|17|route 17={{rt|17|Kanto}}|18|route 18={{rt|18|Kanto}}|19|route 19={{rt|19|Kanto}}|20|route 20={{rt|20|Kanto}}|21|route 21={{rt|21|Kanto}}|22|route 22={{rt|22|Kanto}}|23|route 23={{rt|23|Kanto}}|24|route 24={{rt|24|Kanto}}|25|route 25={{rt|25|Kanto}}|pewter gym=[[Pewter Gym]]|cerulean gym=[[Cerulean Gym]]|vermilion gym=[[Vermilion Gym]]|celadon gym=[[Celadon Gym]]|fuschia gym=[[Fuschia Gym]]|saffron gym=[[Saffron Gym]]|cinnabar gym=[[Cinnabar Gym]]|viridian gym=[[Viridian Gym]]|pallet|pallet town=[[Pallet Town]]|oak lab|prof oak's lab|professor oak's laboratory=[[Professor Oak's Laboratory|Prof. Oak's Lab]]|viridian|viridian city=[[Viridian City]]|pewter|pewter city=[[Pewter City]]|cerulean|cerulean city=[[Cerulean City]]|vermilion|vermilion city=[[Vermilion City]]|saffron|saffron city=[[Saffron City]]|fighting dojo=[[Fighting Dojo]]|lavender|lavender town=[[Lavender Town]]|fuschia|fuschia city=[[Fuscia City]]|cinnabar|cinnabar island=[[Cinnabar Island]]|indigo plateau=[[Indigo Plateau]]|viridian forest=[[Viridian Forest]]|mt moon|mt. moon|mount moon=[[Mt. Moon]]|diglett's cave=[[Diglett's Cave]]|ss anne|st anne|s.s. anne=[[S.S. Anne]]|rock tunnel=[[Rock Tunnel]]|silph|silph co|silphco|silph co.=Silph Co|power plant=[[Power Plant]]|pokemon tower|pokémon tower=Pokémon Tower|safari|safari zone={{safari|Kanto}}|seafoam island|seafoam|seafoam islands=[[Seafoam Islands]]|pokemon mansion|pokémon mansion=[[Pokémon Mansion]]|victory road={{ka|Victory Road}}|unknown dungeon|cerulean cave=[[Cerulean Cave]]|Unknown}}
! {{#if:{{{rblv11-6|}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv11-5|}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv11-4|}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv11-3|}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv11-2|}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{rbclass11|}}}}}|ace trainer|ace trainer♂|ace|ace♂|acetrainer|acetrainer♂|cool trainer|cool trainer♂|cool|cool♂|cooltrainer|cooltrainer♂=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|ace trainer♀|ace♀|acetrainer♀|cool trainer♀|cool♀|cooltrainer♀=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|beauty=[[Beauty (Trainer class)|BEAUTY]]|biker=[[Biker (Trainer class)|BIKER]]|bird keeper|birdkeeper=[[Bird Keeper (Trainer class)|BIRDKEEPER]]|black belt|blackbelt=[[Black Belt (Trainer class)|BLACKBELT]]|bug catcher|bugcatcher=[[Bug Catcher (Trainer class)|BUG CATCHER]]|burglar=[[Burglar (Trainer class)|BURGLAR]]|camper|jr trainer♂|jr. trainer♂|jr♂|junior trainer♂=[[Camper (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♂]]|rival|blue|champion=[[Blue (game)|BLUE]]|channeler=[[Channeler (Trainer class)|CHANNELER]]|cue ball|roughneck=[[Roughneck (Trainer class)|CUE BALL]]|lorelei=[[Lorelei|LORELEI]]|bruno=[[Bruno|BRUNO]]|agatha=[[Agatha|AGATHA]]|lance=[[Lance|LANCE]]|engineer=[[engineer (Trainer class)|ENGINEER]]|fisher|fisherman=[[Fisherman (Trainer class)|FISHERMAN]]|gamer|gambler|pi=[[PI (Trainer class)|GAMBLER]]|gentleman=[[Gentleman (Trainer class)|GENTLEMAN]]|hiker=[[Hiker (Trainer class)|HIKER]]|juggler=[[Juggler (Trainer class)|JUGGLER]]|lass=[[Lass (Trainer class)|LASS]]|brock=[[Brock|BROCK]]|misty=[[Misty|MISTY]]|lt surge|surge|lieutenant surge|lt. surge=[[Lt. Surge|LT. Surge]]|erika=[[Erika|ERIKA]]|koga=[[Koga|KOGA]]|sabrina=[[Sabrina|SABRINA]]|blaine=[[Blaine|BLAINE]]|picnicker|jr trainer♀|jr♀|junior trainer♀|jr. trainer♀=[[Picnicker (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♀]]|pokemaniac|pokémaniac|poke maniac|poké maniac=[[Poké Maniac (Trainer class)|POKéMANIAC]]|psychic=[[Psychic (Trainer class)|PSYCHIC]]|rocker=[[Rocker (Trainer class)|ROCKER]]|team rocket boss|rocket boss|boss|rocket leader|team rocket leader|giovanni=[[Giovanni)|GIOVANNI]]|sailor=[[Sailor (Trainer class)|SAILOR]]|scientist=[[Scientist (Trainer class)|SCIENTIST]]|super nerd|nerd|supernerd=[[Super Nerd (Trainer class)|SUPER NERD]]|swimmer♂=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♂]]|swimmer♀=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♀]]|tamer=[[Tamer (Trainer class)|TAMER]]|rocket|team rocket|team rocket grunt=[[Team Rocket Grunt (Trainer class)|ROCKET]]|youngster=[[Youngster (Trainer class)|YOUNGSTER]]|[[Pokémon Trainer|{{PK}}{{MN}} TRAINER]]}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv11-1|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove11-1-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove11-1-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove11-1-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove11-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove11-1-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove11-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove11-1-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove11-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
! {{#if:{{{rblv11-6|}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv11-5|}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv11-4|}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv11-3|}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv11-2|}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rbnotes11|}}}
{{#if:{{{rblv11-2|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv11-2|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove11-2-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove11-2-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove11-2-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove11-2-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove11-2-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove11-2-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove11-2-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove11-2-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-3|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv11-3|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove11-3-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove11-3-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove11-3-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove11-3-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove11-3-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove11-3-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove11-3-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove11-3-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv11-4|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv11-4|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove11-4-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove11-4-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove11-4-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove11-4-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove11-4-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove11-4-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove11-4-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove11-4-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv11-5|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv11-5|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove11-5-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove11-5-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove11-5-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove11-5-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove11-5-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove11-5-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove11-5-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove11-5-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv11-6|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv11-6|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove11-6-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove11-6-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove11-6-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove11-6-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove11-6-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove11-6-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove11-6-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove11-6-4|}}}}}|—}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
{{#if:{{{rbclass12|}}}|
{{!}}-
! {{#if:{{{rblv1-6}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-5}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-4}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-3}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-2}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{rblocation12|}}}}}|1|route 1={{rt|1|Kanto}}|2|route 2={{rt|2|Kanto}}|3|route 3={{rt|3|Kanto}}|4|route 4={{rt|4|Kanto}}|5|route 5={{rt|5|Kanto}}|6|route 6={{rt|6|Kanto}}|7|route 7={{rt|7|Kanto}}|8|route 8={{rt|8|Kanto}}|9|route 9={{rt|9|Kanto}}|10|route 10={{rt|10|Kanto}}|11|route 11={{rt|11|Kanto}}|12|route 12={{rt|12|Kanto}}|13|route 13={{rt|13|Kanto}}|14|route 14={{rt|14|Kanto}}|15|route 15={{rt|15|Kanto}}|16|route 16={{rt|16|Kanto}}|17|route 17={{rt|17|Kanto}}|18|route 18={{rt|18|Kanto}}|19|route 19={{rt|19|Kanto}}|20|route 20={{rt|20|Kanto}}|21|route 21={{rt|21|Kanto}}|22|route 22={{rt|22|Kanto}}|23|route 23={{rt|23|Kanto}}|24|route 24={{rt|24|Kanto}}|25|route 25={{rt|25|Kanto}}|pewter gym=[[Pewter Gym]]|cerulean gym=[[Cerulean Gym]]|vermilion gym=[[Vermilion Gym]]|celadon gym=[[Celadon Gym]]|fuschia gym=[[Fuschia Gym]]|saffron gym=[[Saffron Gym]]|cinnabar gym=[[Cinnabar Gym]]|viridian gym=[[Viridian Gym]]|pallet|pallet town=[[Pallet Town]]|oak lab|prof oak's lab|professor oak's laboratory=[[Professor Oak's Laboratory|Prof. Oak's Lab]]|viridian|viridian city=[[Viridian City]]|pewter|pewter city=[[Pewter City]]|cerulean|cerulean city=[[Cerulean City]]|vermilion|vermilion city=[[Vermilion City]]|saffron|saffron city=[[Saffron City]]|fighting dojo=[[Fighting Dojo]]|lavender|lavender town=[[Lavender Town]]|fuschia|fuschia city=[[Fuscia City]]|cinnabar|cinnabar island=[[Cinnabar Island]]|indigo plateau=[[Indigo Plateau]]|viridian forest=[[Viridian Forest]]|mt moon|mt. moon|mount moon=[[Mt. Moon]]|diglett's cave=[[Diglett's Cave]]|ss anne|st anne|s.s. anne=[[S.S. Anne]]|rock tunnel=[[Rock Tunnel]]|silph|silph co|silphco|silph co.=Silph Co|power plant=[[Power Plant]]|pokemon tower|pokémon tower=Pokémon Tower|safari|safari zone={{safari|Kanto}}|seafoam island|seafoam|seafoam islands=[[Seafoam Islands]]|pokemon mansion|pokémon mansion=[[Pokémon Mansion]]|victory road={{ka|Victory Road}}|unknown dungeon|cerulean cave=[[Cerulean Cave]]|Unknown}}
! {{#if:{{{rblv1-6}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-5}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-4}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-3}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-2}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{rbclass12|}}}}}|ace trainer|ace trainer♂|ace|ace♂|acetrainer|acetrainer♂|cool trainer|cool trainer♂|cool|cool♂|cooltrainer|cooltrainer♂=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|ace trainer♀|ace♀|acetrainer♀|cool trainer♀|cool♀|cooltrainer♀=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|beauty=[[Beauty (Trainer class)|BEAUTY]]|biker=[[Biker (Trainer class)|BIKER]]|bird keeper|birdkeeper=[[Bird Keeper (Trainer class)|BIRDKEEPER]]|black belt|blackbelt=[[Black Belt (Trainer class)|BLACKBELT]]|bug catcher|bugcatcher=[[Bug Catcher (Trainer class)|BUG CATCHER]]|burglar=[[Burglar (Trainer class)|BURGLAR]]|camper|jr trainer♂|jr. trainer♂|jr♂|junior trainer♂=[[Camper (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♂]]|rival|blue|champion=[[Blue (game)|BLUE]]|channeler=[[Channeler (Trainer class)|CHANNELER]]|cue ball|roughneck=[[Roughneck (Trainer class)|CUE BALL]]|lorelei=[[Lorelei|LORELEI]]|bruno=[[Bruno|BRUNO]]|agatha=[[Agatha|AGATHA]]|lance=[[Lance|LANCE]]|engineer=[[engineer (Trainer class)|ENGINEER]]|fisher|fisherman=[[Fisherman (Trainer class)|FISHERMAN]]|gamer|gambler|pi=[[PI (Trainer class)|GAMBLER]]|gentleman=[[Gentleman (Trainer class)|GENTLEMAN]]|hiker=[[Hiker (Trainer class)|HIKER]]|juggler=[[Juggler (Trainer class)|JUGGLER]]|lass=[[Lass (Trainer class)|LASS]]|brock=[[Brock|BROCK]]|misty=[[Misty|MISTY]]|lt surge|surge|lieutenant surge|lt. surge=[[Lt. Surge|LT. Surge]]|erika=[[Erika|ERIKA]]|koga=[[Koga|KOGA]]|sabrina=[[Sabrina|SABRINA]]|blaine=[[Blaine|BLAINE]]|picnicker|jr trainer♀|jr♀|junior trainer♀|jr. trainer♀=[[Picnicker (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♀]]|pokemaniac|pokémaniac|poke maniac|poké maniac=[[Poké Maniac (Trainer class)|POKéMANIAC]]|psychic=[[Psychic (Trainer class)|PSYCHIC]]|rocker=[[Rocker (Trainer class)|ROCKER]]|team rocket boss|rocket boss|boss|rocket leader|team rocket leader|giovanni=[[Giovanni)|GIOVANNI]]|sailor=[[Sailor (Trainer class)|SAILOR]]|scientist=[[Scientist (Trainer class)|SCIENTIST]]|super nerd|nerd|supernerd=[[Super Nerd (Trainer class)|SUPER NERD]]|swimmer♂=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♂]]|swimmer♀=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♀]]|tamer=[[Tamer (Trainer class)|TAMER]]|rocket|team rocket|team rocket grunt=[[Team Rocket Grunt (Trainer class)|ROCKET]]|youngster=[[Youngster (Trainer class)|YOUNGSTER]]|[[Pokémon Trainer|{{PK}}{{MN}} TRAINER]]}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv12-1|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove12-1-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove12-1-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove12-1-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove12-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove12-1-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove12-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove12-1-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove12-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
! {{#if:{{{rblv12-6}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv12-5}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv12-4}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv12-3}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-2}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rbnotes13|}}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-2}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv12-2|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-2-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-2-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-2-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-2-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-2-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-2-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-2-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-2-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-3}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv1-3|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-3-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-3-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-3-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-3-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-3-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-3-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-3-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-3-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-4}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv1-4|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-4-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-4-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-4-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-4-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-4-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-4-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-4-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-4-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-5}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv1-5|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-5-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-5-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-5-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-5-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-5-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-5-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-5-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-5-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-6}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv1-6|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-6-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-6-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-6-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-6-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-6-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-6-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-6-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-6-4|}}}}}|—}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
{{#if:{{{rbclass13|}}}|
{{!}}-
! {{#if:{{{rblv13-6}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv13-5}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv13-4}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv13-3}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv13-2}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{rblocation13|}}}}}|1|route 1={{rt|1|Kanto}}|2|route 2={{rt|2|Kanto}}|3|route 3={{rt|3|Kanto}}|4|route 4={{rt|4|Kanto}}|5|route 5={{rt|5|Kanto}}|6|route 6={{rt|6|Kanto}}|7|route 7={{rt|7|Kanto}}|8|route 8={{rt|8|Kanto}}|9|route 9={{rt|9|Kanto}}|10|route 10={{rt|10|Kanto}}|11|route 11={{rt|11|Kanto}}|12|route 12={{rt|12|Kanto}}|13|route 13={{rt|13|Kanto}}|14|route 14={{rt|14|Kanto}}|15|route 15={{rt|15|Kanto}}|16|route 16={{rt|16|Kanto}}|17|route 17={{rt|17|Kanto}}|18|route 18={{rt|18|Kanto}}|19|route 19={{rt|19|Kanto}}|20|route 20={{rt|20|Kanto}}|21|route 21={{rt|21|Kanto}}|22|route 22={{rt|22|Kanto}}|23|route 23={{rt|23|Kanto}}|24|route 24={{rt|24|Kanto}}|25|route 25={{rt|25|Kanto}}|pewter gym=[[Pewter Gym]]|cerulean gym=[[Cerulean Gym]]|vermilion gym=[[Vermilion Gym]]|celadon gym=[[Celadon Gym]]|fuschia gym=[[Fuschia Gym]]|saffron gym=[[Saffron Gym]]|cinnabar gym=[[Cinnabar Gym]]|viridian gym=[[Viridian Gym]]|pallet|pallet town=[[Pallet Town]]|oak lab|prof oak's lab|professor oak's laboratory=[[Professor Oak's Laboratory|Prof. Oak's Lab]]|viridian|viridian city=[[Viridian City]]|pewter|pewter city=[[Pewter City]]|cerulean|cerulean city=[[Cerulean City]]|vermilion|vermilion city=[[Vermilion City]]|saffron|saffron city=[[Saffron City]]|fighting dojo=[[Fighting Dojo]]|lavender|lavender town=[[Lavender Town]]|fuschia|fuschia city=[[Fuscia City]]|cinnabar|cinnabar island=[[Cinnabar Island]]|indigo plateau=[[Indigo Plateau]]|viridian forest=[[Viridian Forest]]|mt moon|mt. moon|mount moon=[[Mt. Moon]]|diglett's cave=[[Diglett's Cave]]|ss anne|st anne|s.s. anne=[[S.S. Anne]]|rock tunnel=[[Rock Tunnel]]|silph|silph co|silphco|silph co.=Silph Co|power plant=[[Power Plant]]|pokemon tower|pokémon tower=Pokémon Tower|safari|safari zone={{safari|Kanto}}|seafoam island|seafoam|seafoam islands=[[Seafoam Islands]]|pokemon mansion|pokémon mansion=[[Pokémon Mansion]]|victory road={{ka|Victory Road}}|unknown dungeon|cerulean cave=[[Cerulean Cave]]|Unknown}}
! {{#if:{{{rblv13-6}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv13-5}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv13-4}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv13-3}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv13-2}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{rbclass13|}}}}}|ace trainer|ace trainer♂|ace|ace♂|acetrainer|acetrainer♂|cool trainer|cool trainer♂|cool|cool♂|cooltrainer|cooltrainer♂=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|ace trainer♀|ace♀|acetrainer♀|cool trainer♀|cool♀|cooltrainer♀=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|beauty=[[Beauty (Trainer class)|BEAUTY]]|biker=[[Biker (Trainer class)|BIKER]]|bird keeper|birdkeeper=[[Bird Keeper (Trainer class)|BIRDKEEPER]]|black belt|blackbelt=[[Black Belt (Trainer class)|BLACKBELT]]|bug catcher|bugcatcher=[[Bug Catcher (Trainer class)|BUG CATCHER]]|burglar=[[Burglar (Trainer class)|BURGLAR]]|camper|jr trainer♂|jr. trainer♂|jr♂|junior trainer♂=[[Camper (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♂]]|rival|blue|champion=[[Blue (game)|BLUE]]|channeler=[[Channeler (Trainer class)|CHANNELER]]|cue ball|roughneck=[[Roughneck (Trainer class)|CUE BALL]]|lorelei=[[Lorelei|LORELEI]]|bruno=[[Bruno|BRUNO]]|agatha=[[Agatha|AGATHA]]|lance=[[Lance|LANCE]]|engineer=[[engineer (Trainer class)|ENGINEER]]|fisher|fisherman=[[Fisherman (Trainer class)|FISHERMAN]]|gamer|gambler|pi=[[PI (Trainer class)|GAMBLER]]|gentleman=[[Gentleman (Trainer class)|GENTLEMAN]]|hiker=[[Hiker (Trainer class)|HIKER]]|juggler=[[Juggler (Trainer class)|JUGGLER]]|lass=[[Lass (Trainer class)|LASS]]|brock=[[Brock|BROCK]]|misty=[[Misty|MISTY]]|lt surge|surge|lieutenant surge|lt. surge=[[Lt. Surge|LT. Surge]]|erika=[[Erika|ERIKA]]|koga=[[Koga|KOGA]]|sabrina=[[Sabrina|SABRINA]]|blaine=[[Blaine|BLAINE]]|picnicker|jr trainer♀|jr♀|junior trainer♀|jr. trainer♀=[[Picnicker (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♀]]|pokemaniac|pokémaniac|poke maniac|poké maniac=[[Poké Maniac (Trainer class)|POKéMANIAC]]|psychic=[[Psychic (Trainer class)|PSYCHIC]]|rocker=[[Rocker (Trainer class)|ROCKER]]|team rocket boss|rocket boss|boss|rocket leader|team rocket leader|giovanni=[[Giovanni)|GIOVANNI]]|sailor=[[Sailor (Trainer class)|SAILOR]]|scientist=[[Scientist (Trainer class)|SCIENTIST]]|super nerd|nerd|supernerd=[[Super Nerd (Trainer class)|SUPER NERD]]|swimmer♂=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♂]]|swimmer♀=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♀]]|tamer=[[Tamer (Trainer class)|TAMER]]|rocket|team rocket|team rocket grunt=[[Team Rocket Grunt (Trainer class)|ROCKET]]|youngster=[[Youngster (Trainer class)|YOUNGSTER]]|[[Pokémon Trainer|{{PK}}{{MN}} TRAINER]]}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv13-1|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove13-1-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove13-1-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove13-1-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove13-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove13-1-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove13-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove13-1-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove13-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
! {{#if:{{{rblv1-6}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-5}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-4}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-3}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-2}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rbnotes14|}}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-2}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv1-2|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove13-2-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove13-2-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove13-2-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove13-2-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove13-2-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove13-2-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove13-2-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove13-2-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-3}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv1-3|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove13-3-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove13-3-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove13-3-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove13-3-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove13-3-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove13-3-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove13-3-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove13-3-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-4}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv13-4|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove13-4-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove13-4-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove13-4-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove13-4-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove13-4-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove13-4-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove13-4-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove13-4-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-5}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv13-5|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove13-5-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove13-5-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove13-5-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove13-5-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove13-5-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove13-5-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove13-5-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove13-5-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-6}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv13-6|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove13-6-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove13-6-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove13-6-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove13-6-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove13-6-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove13-6-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove13-6-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove13-6-4|}}}}}|—}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
{{#if:{{{rbclass14|}}}|
{{!}}-
! {{#if:{{{rblv1-6}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-5}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-4}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-3}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-2}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{rblocation14|}}}}}|1|route 1={{rt|1|Kanto}}|2|route 2={{rt|2|Kanto}}|3|route 3={{rt|3|Kanto}}|4|route 4={{rt|4|Kanto}}|5|route 5={{rt|5|Kanto}}|6|route 6={{rt|6|Kanto}}|7|route 7={{rt|7|Kanto}}|8|route 8={{rt|8|Kanto}}|9|route 9={{rt|9|Kanto}}|10|route 10={{rt|10|Kanto}}|11|route 11={{rt|11|Kanto}}|12|route 12={{rt|12|Kanto}}|13|route 13={{rt|13|Kanto}}|14|route 14={{rt|14|Kanto}}|15|route 15={{rt|15|Kanto}}|16|route 16={{rt|16|Kanto}}|17|route 17={{rt|17|Kanto}}|18|route 18={{rt|18|Kanto}}|19|route 19={{rt|19|Kanto}}|20|route 20={{rt|20|Kanto}}|21|route 21={{rt|21|Kanto}}|22|route 22={{rt|22|Kanto}}|23|route 23={{rt|23|Kanto}}|24|route 24={{rt|24|Kanto}}|25|route 25={{rt|25|Kanto}}|pewter gym=[[Pewter Gym]]|cerulean gym=[[Cerulean Gym]]|vermilion gym=[[Vermilion Gym]]|celadon gym=[[Celadon Gym]]|fuschia gym=[[Fuschia Gym]]|saffron gym=[[Saffron Gym]]|cinnabar gym=[[Cinnabar Gym]]|viridian gym=[[Viridian Gym]]|pallet|pallet town=[[Pallet Town]]|oak lab|prof oak's lab|professor oak's laboratory=[[Professor Oak's Laboratory|Prof. Oak's Lab]]|viridian|viridian city=[[Viridian City]]|pewter|pewter city=[[Pewter City]]|cerulean|cerulean city=[[Cerulean City]]|vermilion|vermilion city=[[Vermilion City]]|saffron|saffron city=[[Saffron City]]|fighting dojo=[[Fighting Dojo]]|lavender|lavender town=[[Lavender Town]]|fuschia|fuschia city=[[Fuscia City]]|cinnabar|cinnabar island=[[Cinnabar Island]]|indigo plateau=[[Indigo Plateau]]|viridian forest=[[Viridian Forest]]|mt moon|mt. moon|mount moon=[[Mt. Moon]]|diglett's cave=[[Diglett's Cave]]|ss anne|st anne|s.s. anne=[[S.S. Anne]]|rock tunnel=[[Rock Tunnel]]|silph|silph co|silphco|silph co.=Silph Co|power plant=[[Power Plant]]|pokemon tower|pokémon tower=Pokémon Tower|safari|safari zone={{safari|Kanto}}|seafoam island|seafoam|seafoam islands=[[Seafoam Islands]]|pokemon mansion|pokémon mansion=[[Pokémon Mansion]]|victory road={{ka|Victory Road}}|unknown dungeon|cerulean cave=[[Cerulean Cave]]|Unknown}}
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv14-1|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-1-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-1-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-1-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-1-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
! {{#if:{{{rblv1-6}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-5}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-4}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-3}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-2}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rbnotes15|}}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-2}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv1-2|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-2-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-2-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-2-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-2-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-3}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv1-3|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-3-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-3-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-3-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-3-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-4}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv1-4|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-4-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-4-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-4-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-4-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-5}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv1-5|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-5-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-5-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-5-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-5-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-6}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv1-6|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-6-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-6-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-6-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-6-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
}}
}}
}}
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{{#if:{{{rbclass15|}}}|
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-1-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-2-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-2-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-3}}}|
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-3-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-3-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-3-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-4}}}|
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-4-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-4-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-4-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-5}}}|
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-5-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-5-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-5-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-6}}}|
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-6-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-6-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-6-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-6-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
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{{#if:{{{rbclass16|}}}|
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-1-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-1-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-1-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-2-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-2-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-3}}}|
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{{#if:{{{rblv1-5}}}|
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv1-6|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-6-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-6-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-6-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-6-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
{{#if:{{{rbclass17|}}}|
{{!}}-
! {{#if:{{{rblv1-6}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-5}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-4}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-3}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-2}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{rblocation17|}}}}}|1|route 1={{rt|1|Kanto}}|2|route 2={{rt|2|Kanto}}|3|route 3={{rt|3|Kanto}}|4|route 4={{rt|4|Kanto}}|5|route 5={{rt|5|Kanto}}|6|route 6={{rt|6|Kanto}}|7|route 7={{rt|7|Kanto}}|8|route 8={{rt|8|Kanto}}|9|route 9={{rt|9|Kanto}}|10|route 10={{rt|10|Kanto}}|11|route 11={{rt|11|Kanto}}|12|route 12={{rt|12|Kanto}}|13|route 13={{rt|13|Kanto}}|14|route 14={{rt|14|Kanto}}|15|route 15={{rt|15|Kanto}}|16|route 16={{rt|16|Kanto}}|17|route 17={{rt|17|Kanto}}|18|route 18={{rt|18|Kanto}}|19|route 19={{rt|19|Kanto}}|20|route 20={{rt|20|Kanto}}|21|route 21={{rt|21|Kanto}}|22|route 22={{rt|22|Kanto}}|23|route 23={{rt|23|Kanto}}|24|route 24={{rt|24|Kanto}}|25|route 25={{rt|25|Kanto}}|pewter gym=[[Pewter Gym]]|cerulean gym=[[Cerulean Gym]]|vermilion gym=[[Vermilion Gym]]|celadon gym=[[Celadon Gym]]|fuschia gym=[[Fuschia Gym]]|saffron gym=[[Saffron Gym]]|cinnabar gym=[[Cinnabar Gym]]|viridian gym=[[Viridian Gym]]|pallet|pallet town=[[Pallet Town]]|oak lab|prof oak's lab|professor oak's laboratory=[[Professor Oak's Laboratory|Prof. Oak's Lab]]|viridian|viridian city=[[Viridian City]]|pewter|pewter city=[[Pewter City]]|cerulean|cerulean city=[[Cerulean City]]|vermilion|vermilion city=[[Vermilion City]]|saffron|saffron city=[[Saffron City]]|fighting dojo=[[Fighting Dojo]]|lavender|lavender town=[[Lavender Town]]|fuschia|fuschia city=[[Fuscia City]]|cinnabar|cinnabar island=[[Cinnabar Island]]|indigo plateau=[[Indigo Plateau]]|viridian forest=[[Viridian Forest]]|mt moon|mt. moon|mount moon=[[Mt. Moon]]|diglett's cave=[[Diglett's Cave]]|ss anne|st anne|s.s. anne=[[S.S. Anne]]|rock tunnel=[[Rock Tunnel]]|silph|silph co|silphco|silph co.=Silph Co|power plant=[[Power Plant]]|pokemon tower|pokémon tower=Pokémon Tower|safari|safari zone={{safari|Kanto}}|seafoam island|seafoam|seafoam islands=[[Seafoam Islands]]|pokemon mansion|pokémon mansion=[[Pokémon Mansion]]|victory road={{ka|Victory Road}}|unknown dungeon|cerulean cave=[[Cerulean Cave]]|Unknown}}
! {{#if:{{{rblv1-6}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-5}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-4}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-3}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-2}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{rbclass17|}}}}}|ace trainer|ace trainer♂|ace|ace♂|acetrainer|acetrainer♂|cool trainer|cool trainer♂|cool|cool♂|cooltrainer|cooltrainer♂=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|ace trainer♀|ace♀|acetrainer♀|cool trainer♀|cool♀|cooltrainer♀=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|beauty=[[Beauty (Trainer class)|BEAUTY]]|biker=[[Biker (Trainer class)|BIKER]]|bird keeper|birdkeeper=[[Bird Keeper (Trainer class)|BIRDKEEPER]]|black belt|blackbelt=[[Black Belt (Trainer class)|BLACKBELT]]|bug catcher|bugcatcher=[[Bug Catcher (Trainer class)|BUG CATCHER]]|burglar=[[Burglar (Trainer class)|BURGLAR]]|camper|jr trainer♂|jr. trainer♂|jr♂|junior trainer♂=[[Camper (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♂]]|rival|blue|champion=[[Blue (game)|BLUE]]|channeler=[[Channeler (Trainer class)|CHANNELER]]|cue ball|roughneck=[[Roughneck (Trainer class)|CUE BALL]]|lorelei=[[Lorelei|LORELEI]]|bruno=[[Bruno|BRUNO]]|agatha=[[Agatha|AGATHA]]|lance=[[Lance|LANCE]]|engineer=[[engineer (Trainer class)|ENGINEER]]|fisher|fisherman=[[Fisherman (Trainer class)|FISHERMAN]]|gamer|gambler|pi=[[PI (Trainer class)|GAMBLER]]|gentleman=[[Gentleman (Trainer class)|GENTLEMAN]]|hiker=[[Hiker (Trainer class)|HIKER]]|juggler=[[Juggler (Trainer class)|JUGGLER]]|lass=[[Lass (Trainer class)|LASS]]|brock=[[Brock|BROCK]]|misty=[[Misty|MISTY]]|lt surge|surge|lieutenant surge|lt. surge=[[Lt. Surge|LT. Surge]]|erika=[[Erika|ERIKA]]|koga=[[Koga|KOGA]]|sabrina=[[Sabrina|SABRINA]]|blaine=[[Blaine|BLAINE]]|picnicker|jr trainer♀|jr♀|junior trainer♀|jr. trainer♀=[[Picnicker (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♀]]|pokemaniac|pokémaniac|poke maniac|poké maniac=[[Poké Maniac (Trainer class)|POKéMANIAC]]|psychic=[[Psychic (Trainer class)|PSYCHIC]]|rocker=[[Rocker (Trainer class)|ROCKER]]|team rocket boss|rocket boss|boss|rocket leader|team rocket leader|giovanni=[[Giovanni)|GIOVANNI]]|sailor=[[Sailor (Trainer class)|SAILOR]]|scientist=[[Scientist (Trainer class)|SCIENTIST]]|super nerd|nerd|supernerd=[[Super Nerd (Trainer class)|SUPER NERD]]|swimmer♂=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♂]]|swimmer♀=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♀]]|tamer=[[Tamer (Trainer class)|TAMER]]|rocket|team rocket|team rocket grunt=[[Team Rocket Grunt (Trainer class)|ROCKET]]|youngster=[[Youngster (Trainer class)|YOUNGSTER]]|[[Pokémon Trainer|{{PK}}{{MN}} TRAINER]]}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv17-1|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-1-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-1-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-1-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-1-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
! {{#if:{{{rblv1-6}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-5}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-4}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-3}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-2}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rbnotes18|}}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-2}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv1-2|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-2-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-2-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-2-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-2-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-3}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv1-3|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-3-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-3-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-3-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-3-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-4}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv1-4|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-4-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-4-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-4-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-4-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-5}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv1-5|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-5-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-5-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-5-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-5-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove1-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-6}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv1-6|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove17-6-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove17-6-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove17-6-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove17-6-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove17-6-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove17-6-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove17-6-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove17-6-4|}}}}}|—}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
{{#if:{{{rbclass18|}}}|
{{!}}-
! {{#if:{{{rblv18-6|}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv18-5|}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv18-4|}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv18-3}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv18-2}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{rblocation18|}}}}}|1|route 1={{rt|1|Kanto}}|2|route 2={{rt|2|Kanto}}|3|route 3={{rt|3|Kanto}}|4|route 4={{rt|4|Kanto}}|5|route 5={{rt|5|Kanto}}|6|route 6={{rt|6|Kanto}}|7|route 7={{rt|7|Kanto}}|8|route 8={{rt|8|Kanto}}|9|route 9={{rt|9|Kanto}}|10|route 10={{rt|10|Kanto}}|11|route 11={{rt|11|Kanto}}|12|route 12={{rt|12|Kanto}}|13|route 13={{rt|13|Kanto}}|14|route 14={{rt|14|Kanto}}|15|route 15={{rt|15|Kanto}}|16|route 16={{rt|16|Kanto}}|17|route 17={{rt|17|Kanto}}|18|route 18={{rt|18|Kanto}}|19|route 19={{rt|19|Kanto}}|20|route 20={{rt|20|Kanto}}|21|route 21={{rt|21|Kanto}}|22|route 22={{rt|22|Kanto}}|23|route 23={{rt|23|Kanto}}|24|route 24={{rt|24|Kanto}}|25|route 25={{rt|25|Kanto}}|pewter gym=[[Pewter Gym]]|cerulean gym=[[Cerulean Gym]]|vermilion gym=[[Vermilion Gym]]|celadon gym=[[Celadon Gym]]|fuschia gym=[[Fuschia Gym]]|saffron gym=[[Saffron Gym]]|cinnabar gym=[[Cinnabar Gym]]|viridian gym=[[Viridian Gym]]|pallet|pallet town=[[Pallet Town]]|oak lab|prof oak's lab|professor oak's laboratory=[[Professor Oak's Laboratory|Prof. Oak's Lab]]|viridian|viridian city=[[Viridian City]]|pewter|pewter city=[[Pewter City]]|cerulean|cerulean city=[[Cerulean City]]|vermilion|vermilion city=[[Vermilion City]]|saffron|saffron city=[[Saffron City]]|fighting dojo=[[Fighting Dojo]]|lavender|lavender town=[[Lavender Town]]|fuschia|fuschia city=[[Fuscia City]]|cinnabar|cinnabar island=[[Cinnabar Island]]|indigo plateau=[[Indigo Plateau]]|viridian forest=[[Viridian Forest]]|mt moon|mt. moon|mount moon=[[Mt. Moon]]|diglett's cave=[[Diglett's Cave]]|ss anne|st anne|s.s. anne=[[S.S. Anne]]|rock tunnel=[[Rock Tunnel]]|silph|silph co|silphco|silph co.=Silph Co|power plant=[[Power Plant]]|pokemon tower|pokémon tower=Pokémon Tower|safari|safari zone={{safari|Kanto}}|seafoam island|seafoam|seafoam islands=[[Seafoam Islands]]|pokemon mansion|pokémon mansion=[[Pokémon Mansion]]|victory road={{ka|Victory Road}}|unknown dungeon|cerulean cave=[[Cerulean Cave]]|Unknown}}
! {{#if:{{{rblv1-6|}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-5|}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-4|}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-3}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-2}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{rbclass18|}}}}}|ace trainer|ace trainer♂|ace|ace♂|acetrainer|acetrainer♂|cool trainer|cool trainer♂|cool|cool♂|cooltrainer|cooltrainer♂=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|ace trainer♀|ace♀|acetrainer♀|cool trainer♀|cool♀|cooltrainer♀=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|beauty=[[Beauty (Trainer class)|BEAUTY]]|biker=[[Biker (Trainer class)|BIKER]]|bird keeper|birdkeeper=[[Bird Keeper (Trainer class)|BIRDKEEPER]]|black belt|blackbelt=[[Black Belt (Trainer class)|BLACKBELT]]|bug catcher|bugcatcher=[[Bug Catcher (Trainer class)|BUG CATCHER]]|burglar=[[Burglar (Trainer class)|BURGLAR]]|camper|jr trainer♂|jr. trainer♂|jr♂|junior trainer♂=[[Camper (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♂]]|rival|blue|champion=[[Blue (game)|BLUE]]|channeler=[[Channeler (Trainer class)|CHANNELER]]|cue ball|roughneck=[[Roughneck (Trainer class)|CUE BALL]]|lorelei=[[Lorelei|LORELEI]]|bruno=[[Bruno|BRUNO]]|agatha=[[Agatha|AGATHA]]|lance=[[Lance|LANCE]]|engineer=[[engineer (Trainer class)|ENGINEER]]|fisher|fisherman=[[Fisherman (Trainer class)|FISHERMAN]]|gamer|gambler|pi=[[PI (Trainer class)|GAMBLER]]|gentleman=[[Gentleman (Trainer class)|GENTLEMAN]]|hiker=[[Hiker (Trainer class)|HIKER]]|juggler=[[Juggler (Trainer class)|JUGGLER]]|lass=[[Lass (Trainer class)|LASS]]|brock=[[Brock|BROCK]]|misty=[[Misty|MISTY]]|lt surge|surge|lieutenant surge|lt. surge=[[Lt. Surge|LT. Surge]]|erika=[[Erika|ERIKA]]|koga=[[Koga|KOGA]]|sabrina=[[Sabrina|SABRINA]]|blaine=[[Blaine|BLAINE]]|picnicker|jr trainer♀|jr♀|junior trainer♀|jr. trainer♀=[[Picnicker (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♀]]|pokemaniac|pokémaniac|poke maniac|poké maniac=[[Poké Maniac (Trainer class)|POKéMANIAC]]|psychic=[[Psychic (Trainer class)|PSYCHIC]]|rocker=[[Rocker (Trainer class)|ROCKER]]|team rocket boss|rocket boss|boss|rocket leader|team rocket leader|giovanni=[[Giovanni)|GIOVANNI]]|sailor=[[Sailor (Trainer class)|SAILOR]]|scientist=[[Scientist (Trainer class)|SCIENTIST]]|super nerd|nerd|supernerd=[[Super Nerd (Trainer class)|SUPER NERD]]|swimmer♂=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♂]]|swimmer♀=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♀]]|tamer=[[Tamer (Trainer class)|TAMER]]|rocket|team rocket|team rocket grunt=[[Team Rocket Grunt (Trainer class)|ROCKET]]|youngster=[[Youngster (Trainer class)|YOUNGSTER]]|[[Pokémon Trainer|{{PK}}{{MN}} TRAINER]]}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv18-1|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove18-1-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove18-1-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove18-1-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove18-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove18-1-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove18-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove18-1-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove18-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
! {{#if:{{{rblv1-6|}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-5|}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-4|}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-3}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv1-2}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rbnotes19|}}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-2|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv1-2|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove18-2-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove18-2-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove18-2-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove18-2-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove18-2-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove18-2-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove18-2-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove18-2-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv18-3|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv1-3|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove18-3-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove18-3-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove18-3-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove18-3-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove18-3-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove18-3-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove18-3-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove18-3-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv18-4|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv1-4|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove18-4-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove18-4-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove18-4-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove18-4-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-4-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove18-4-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove1-4-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove18-4-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv18-5|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv18-5|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove18-5-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove18-5-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove18-5-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove18-5-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove18-5-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove18-5-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove18-5-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove18-5-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv18-6|}}}|
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove18-6-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove18-6-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove18-6-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove18-6-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove18-6-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove18-6-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove18-6-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove18-6-4|}}}}}|—}}
}}
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}}
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{{#if:{{{rbclass19|}}}|
{{!}}-
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! {{#if:{{{rblv19-6|}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv19-5|}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv19-4|}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv19-3|}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv19-2|}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{rbclass19|}}}}}|ace trainer|ace trainer♂|ace|ace♂|acetrainer|acetrainer♂|cool trainer|cool trainer♂|cool|cool♂|cooltrainer|cooltrainer♂=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|ace trainer♀|ace♀|acetrainer♀|cool trainer♀|cool♀|cooltrainer♀=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|beauty=[[Beauty (Trainer class)|BEAUTY]]|biker=[[Biker (Trainer class)|BIKER]]|bird keeper|birdkeeper=[[Bird Keeper (Trainer class)|BIRDKEEPER]]|black belt|blackbelt=[[Black Belt (Trainer class)|BLACKBELT]]|bug catcher|bugcatcher=[[Bug Catcher (Trainer class)|BUG CATCHER]]|burglar=[[Burglar (Trainer class)|BURGLAR]]|camper|jr trainer♂|jr. trainer♂|jr♂|junior trainer♂=[[Camper (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♂]]|rival|blue|champion=[[Blue (game)|BLUE]]|channeler=[[Channeler (Trainer class)|CHANNELER]]|cue ball|roughneck=[[Roughneck (Trainer class)|CUE BALL]]|lorelei=[[Lorelei|LORELEI]]|bruno=[[Bruno|BRUNO]]|agatha=[[Agatha|AGATHA]]|lance=[[Lance|LANCE]]|engineer=[[engineer (Trainer class)|ENGINEER]]|fisher|fisherman=[[Fisherman (Trainer class)|FISHERMAN]]|gamer|gambler|pi=[[PI (Trainer class)|GAMBLER]]|gentleman=[[Gentleman (Trainer class)|GENTLEMAN]]|hiker=[[Hiker (Trainer class)|HIKER]]|juggler=[[Juggler (Trainer class)|JUGGLER]]|lass=[[Lass (Trainer class)|LASS]]|brock=[[Brock|BROCK]]|misty=[[Misty|MISTY]]|lt surge|surge|lieutenant surge|lt. surge=[[Lt. Surge|LT. Surge]]|erika=[[Erika|ERIKA]]|koga=[[Koga|KOGA]]|sabrina=[[Sabrina|SABRINA]]|blaine=[[Blaine|BLAINE]]|picnicker|jr trainer♀|jr♀|junior trainer♀|jr. trainer♀=[[Picnicker (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♀]]|pokemaniac|pokémaniac|poke maniac|poké maniac=[[Poké Maniac (Trainer class)|POKéMANIAC]]|psychic=[[Psychic (Trainer class)|PSYCHIC]]|rocker=[[Rocker (Trainer class)|ROCKER]]|team rocket boss|rocket boss|boss|rocket leader|team rocket leader|giovanni=[[Giovanni)|GIOVANNI]]|sailor=[[Sailor (Trainer class)|SAILOR]]|scientist=[[Scientist (Trainer class)|SCIENTIST]]|super nerd|nerd|supernerd=[[Super Nerd (Trainer class)|SUPER NERD]]|swimmer♂=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♂]]|swimmer♀=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♀]]|tamer=[[Tamer (Trainer class)|TAMER]]|rocket|team rocket|team rocket grunt=[[Team Rocket Grunt (Trainer class)|ROCKET]]|youngster=[[Youngster (Trainer class)|YOUNGSTER]]|[[Pokémon Trainer|{{PK}}{{MN}} TRAINER]]}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv19-1|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove19-1-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove19-1-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove19-1-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove19-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove19-1-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove19-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove19-1-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove19-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
! {{#if:{{{rblv19-6|}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv19-5|}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv19-4|}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv19-3|}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv19-2|}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rbnotes19|}}}
{{#if:{{{rblv19-2|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv1-2|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove19-2-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove19-2-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove19-2-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove19-2-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove19-2-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove19-2-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove19-2-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove19-2-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv19-3|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv19-3|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove19-3-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove19-3-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove19-3-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove19-3-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove19-3-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove19-3-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove19-3-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove19-3-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv19-4|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv19-4|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove19-4-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove19-4-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove19-4-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove19-4-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove19-4-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove19-4-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove19-4-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove19-4-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-5|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv1-5|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove19-5-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove19-5-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove19-5-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove19-5-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove19-5-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove19-5-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove19-5-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove19-5-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv19-6|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv19-6|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove19-6-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove19-6-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove19-6-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove19-6-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove19-6-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove19-6-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove19-6-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove19-6-4|}}}}}|—}}
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{{#if:{{{rbclass20|}}}|
{{!}}-
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! {{#if:{{{rblv20-6|}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv20-5|}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv20-4|}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv20-3|}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv20-2|}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{rbclass20|}}}}}|ace trainer|ace trainer♂|ace|ace♂|acetrainer|acetrainer♂|cool trainer|cool trainer♂|cool|cool♂|cooltrainer|cooltrainer♂=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|ace trainer♀|ace♀|acetrainer♀|cool trainer♀|cool♀|cooltrainer♀=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|beauty=[[Beauty (Trainer class)|BEAUTY]]|biker=[[Biker (Trainer class)|BIKER]]|bird keeper|birdkeeper=[[Bird Keeper (Trainer class)|BIRDKEEPER]]|black belt|blackbelt=[[Black Belt (Trainer class)|BLACKBELT]]|bug catcher|bugcatcher=[[Bug Catcher (Trainer class)|BUG CATCHER]]|burglar=[[Burglar (Trainer class)|BURGLAR]]|camper|jr trainer♂|jr. trainer♂|jr♂|junior trainer♂=[[Camper (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♂]]|rival|blue|champion=[[Blue (game)|BLUE]]|channeler=[[Channeler (Trainer class)|CHANNELER]]|cue ball|roughneck=[[Roughneck (Trainer class)|CUE BALL]]|lorelei=[[Lorelei|LORELEI]]|bruno=[[Bruno|BRUNO]]|agatha=[[Agatha|AGATHA]]|lance=[[Lance|LANCE]]|engineer=[[engineer (Trainer class)|ENGINEER]]|fisher|fisherman=[[Fisherman (Trainer class)|FISHERMAN]]|gamer|gambler|pi=[[PI (Trainer class)|GAMBLER]]|gentleman=[[Gentleman (Trainer class)|GENTLEMAN]]|hiker=[[Hiker (Trainer class)|HIKER]]|juggler=[[Juggler (Trainer class)|JUGGLER]]|lass=[[Lass (Trainer class)|LASS]]|brock=[[Brock|BROCK]]|misty=[[Misty|MISTY]]|lt surge|surge|lieutenant surge|lt. surge=[[Lt. Surge|LT. Surge]]|erika=[[Erika|ERIKA]]|koga=[[Koga|KOGA]]|sabrina=[[Sabrina|SABRINA]]|blaine=[[Blaine|BLAINE]]|picnicker|jr trainer♀|jr♀|junior trainer♀|jr. trainer♀=[[Picnicker (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♀]]|pokemaniac|pokémaniac|poke maniac|poké maniac=[[Poké Maniac (Trainer class)|POKéMANIAC]]|psychic=[[Psychic (Trainer class)|PSYCHIC]]|rocker=[[Rocker (Trainer class)|ROCKER]]|team rocket boss|rocket boss|boss|rocket leader|team rocket leader|giovanni=[[Giovanni)|GIOVANNI]]|sailor=[[Sailor (Trainer class)|SAILOR]]|scientist=[[Scientist (Trainer class)|SCIENTIST]]|super nerd|nerd|supernerd=[[Super Nerd (Trainer class)|SUPER NERD]]|swimmer♂=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♂]]|swimmer♀=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♀]]|tamer=[[Tamer (Trainer class)|TAMER]]|rocket|team rocket|team rocket grunt=[[Team Rocket Grunt (Trainer class)|ROCKET]]|youngster=[[Youngster (Trainer class)|YOUNGSTER]]|[[Pokémon Trainer|{{PK}}{{MN}} TRAINER]]}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv20-1|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove20-1-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove20-1-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove20-1-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove20-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove20-1-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove20-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove20-1-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove20-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
! {{#if:{{{rblv20-6|}}}|rowspan="6"|{{#if:{{{rblv20-5|}}}|rowspan="5"|{{#if:{{{rblv20-4|}}}|rowspan="4"|{{#if:{{{rblv20-3|}}}|rowspan="3"|{{#if:{{{rblv20-2|}}}|rowspan="2"|}}}}}}}}}} style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color|}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rbnotes20|}}}
{{#if:{{{rblv20-2|}}}|
{{!}}-
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! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove20-2-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove20-2-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove20-2-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove20-2-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove20-2-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove20-2-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove20-2-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove20-2-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv20-3|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv20-3|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove20-3-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove20-3-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove20-3-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove20-3-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove20-3-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove20-3-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove20-3-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove20-3-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-4|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv20-4|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove20-4-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove20-4-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove20-4-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove20-4-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove20-4-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove20-4-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove20-4-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove20-4-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv1-5|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv20-5|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove20-5-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove20-4-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove20-5-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove20-4-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove20-5-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove20-4-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove20-5-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove20-4-4|}}}}}|—}}
{{#if:{{{rblv20-6|}}}|
{{!}}-
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rblv20-6|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove20-6-1|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove20-6-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove20-6-2|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove20-6-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove20-6-3|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove20-6-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rbmove20-6-4|}}}|{{m|{{{rbmove20-6-4|}}}}}|—}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
}}
|
! No one used this Pokémon in Red or Blue
}}
|}
|}
|- {{#ifexpr: {{{gen|1}}} > 1|style="display:none;"}}
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{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
! width="100%" style="{{roundytop|5px}} background: #{{yellow color}}; line-height: 8pt;" | Yellow
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|-
| class="roundybottom" style="background:#{{kanto color light}}; padding:2px;" |
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background:#FFF; padding:3px;"
|-
{{#if:{{{yclass1|}}}|
! style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{rblocation1|}}}}}|1|route 1={{rt|1|Kanto}}|2|route 2={{rt|2|Kanto}}|3|route 3={{rt|3|Kanto}}|4|route 4={{rt|4|Kanto}}|5|route 5={{rt|5|Kanto}}|6|route 6={{rt|6|Kanto}}|7|route 7={{rt|7|Kanto}}|8|route 8={{rt|8|Kanto}}|9|route 9={{rt|9|Kanto}}|10|route 10={{rt|10|Kanto}}|11|route 11={{rt|11|Kanto}}|12|route 12={{rt|12|Kanto}}|13|route 13={{rt|13|Kanto}}|14|route 14={{rt|14|Kanto}}|15|route 15={{rt|15|Kanto}}|16|route 16={{rt|16|Kanto}}|17|route 17={{rt|17|Kanto}}|18|route 18={{rt|18|Kanto}}|19|route 19={{rt|19|Kanto}}|20|route 20={{rt|20|Kanto}}|21|route 21={{rt|21|Kanto}}|22|route 22={{rt|22|Kanto}}|23|route 23={{rt|23|Kanto}}|24|route 24={{rt|24|Kanto}}|25|route 25={{rt|25|Kanto}}|pewter gym=[[Pewter Gym]]|cerulean gym=[[Cerulean Gym]]|vermilion gym=[[Vermilion Gym]]|celadon gym=[[Celadon Gym]]|fuschia gym=[[Fuschia Gym]]|saffron gym=[[Saffron Gym]]|cinnabar gym=[[Cinnabar Gym]]|viridian gym=[[Viridian Gym]]|pallet|pallet town=[[Pallet Town]]|oak lab|prof oak's lab|professor oak's laboratory=[[Professor Oak's Laboratory|Prof. Oak's Lab]]|viridian|viridian city=[[Viridian City]]|pewter|pewter city=[[Pewter City]]|cerulean|cerulean city=[[Cerulean City]]|vermilion|vermilion city=[[Vermilion City]]|saffron|saffron city=[[Saffron City]]|fighting dojo=[[Fighting Dojo]]|lavender|lavender town=[[Lavender Town]]|fuschia|fuschia city=[[Fuscia City]]|cinnabar|cinnabar island=[[Cinnabar Island]]|indigo plateau=[[Indigo Plateau]]|viridian forest=[[Viridian Forest]]|mt moon|mt. moon|mount moon=[[Mt. Moon]]|diglett's cave=[[Diglett's Cave]]|ss anne|st anne|s.s. anne=[[S.S. Anne]]|rock tunnel=[[Rock Tunnel]]|silph|silph co|silphco|silph co.=Silph Co|power plant=[[Power Plant]]|pokemon tower|pokémon tower=[[Pokémon Tower]]|safari|safari zone={{safari|Kanto}}|seafoam island|seafoam|seafoam islands=[[Seafoam Islands]]|pokemon mansion|pokémon mansion=[[Pokémon Mansion]]|victory road={{ka|Victory Road}}|unknown dungeon|cerulean cave=[[Cerulean Cave]]|Unknown}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{yclass1|}}}}}|ace trainer|ace trainer♂|ace|ace♂|acetrainer|acetrainer♂|cool trainer|cool trainer♂|cool|cool♂|cooltrainer|cooltrainer♂=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|ace trainer♀|ace♀|acetrainer♀|cool trainer♀|cool♀|cooltrainer♀=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|beauty=[[Beauty (Trainer class)|BEAUTY]]|biker=[[Biker (Trainer class)|BIKER]]|bird keeper|birdkeeper=[[Bird Keeper (Trainer class)|BIRDKEEPER]]|black belt|blackbelt=[[Black Belt (Trainer class)|BLACKBELT]]|bug catcher|bugcatcher=[[Bug Catcher (Trainer class)|BUG CATCHER]]|burglar=[[Burglar (Trainer class)|BURGLAR]]|camper|jr trainer♂|jr. trainer♂|jr♂|junior trainer♂=[[Camper (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♂]]|rival|blue|champion=[[Blue (game)|BLUE]]|channeler=[[Channeler (Trainer class)|CHANNELER]]|cue ball|roughneck=[[Roughneck (Trainer class)|CUE BALL]]|lorelei=[[Lorelei|LORELEI]]|bruno=[[Bruno|BRUNO]]|agatha=[[Agatha|AGATHA]]|lance=[[Lance|LANCE]]|engineer=[[engineer (Trainer class)|ENGINEER]]|fisher|fisherman=[[Fisherman (Trainer class)|FISHERMAN]]|gamer|gambler|pi=[[PI (Trainer class)|GAMBLER]]|gentleman=[[Gentleman (Trainer class)|GENTLEMAN]]|hiker=[[Hiker (Trainer class)|HIKER]]|juggler=[[Juggler (Trainer class)|JUGGLER]]|lass=[[Lass (Trainer class)|LASS]]|brock=[[Brock|BROCK]]|misty=[[Misty|MISTY]]|lt surge|surge|lieutenant surge|lt. surge=[[Lt. Surge|LT. Surge]]|erika=[[Erika|ERIKA]]|koga=[[Koga|KOGA]]|sabrina=[[Sabrina|SABRINA]]|blaine=[[Blaine|BLAINE]]|picnicker|jr trainer♀|jr♀|junior trainer♀|jr. trainer♀=[[Picnicker (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♀]]|pokemaniac|pokémaniac|poke maniac|poké maniac=[[Poké Maniac (Trainer class)|POKéMANIAC]]|psychic=[[Psychic (Trainer class)|PSYCHIC]]|rocker=[[Rocker (Trainer class)|ROCKER]]|team rocket boss|rocket boss|boss|rocket leader|team rocket leader|giovanni=[[Giovanni)|GIOVANNI]]|sailor=[[Sailor (Trainer class)|SAILOR]]|scientist=[[Scientist (Trainer class)|SCIENTIST]]|super nerd|nerd|supernerd=[[Super Nerd (Trainer class)|SUPER NERD]]|swimmer♂=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♂]]|swimmer♀=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♀]]|tamer=[[Tamer (Trainer class)|TAMER]]|rocket|team rocket|team rocket grunt|rocket grunt=[[Team Rocket Grunt (Trainer class)|ROCKET]]|youngster=[[Youngster (Trainer class)|YOUNGSTER]]|[[Pokémon Trainer|{{PK}}{{MN}} TRAINER]]}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{ylv1-1|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{ymove1-1-1|}}}|{{m|{{{ymove1-1-1|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{ymove1-1-2|}}}|{{m|{{{ymove1-1-2|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{ymove1-1-3|}}}|{{m|{{{ymove1-1-3|}}}}}|—}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{ymove1-1-4|}}}|{{m|{{{ymove1-1-4|}}}}}|—}}
! style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{ynotes1|}}}
|
! No one used this Pokémon in Yellow
}}
|}
|}
|- {{#ifexpr: {{{gen|1}}} > 2|style="display:none;"}}
|
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
! width="50%" style="{{roundytl|5px}} background: #{{gold color}}; line-height: 8pt;" | Gold
! width="50%" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background: #{{silver color}}; line-height: 8pt;" | Silver
|
|-
| colspan="2" class="roundybottom" style="background:#{{johto color light}}; padding:2px;" |
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background:#FFF; padding:3px;"
|-
{{#if:{{{gsclass1|}}}|
! style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{rblocation1|}}}}}|1|route 1={{rt|1|Kanto}}|2|route 2={{rt|2|Kanto}}|3|route 3={{rt|3|Kanto}}|4|route 4={{rt|4|Kanto}}|5|route 5={{rt|5|Kanto}}|6|route 6={{rt|6|Kanto}}|7|route 7={{rt|7|Kanto}}|8|route 8={{rt|8|Kanto}}|9|route 9={{rt|9|Kanto}}|10|route 10={{rt|10|Kanto}}|11|route 11={{rt|11|Kanto}}|12|route 12={{rt|12|Kanto}}|13|route 13={{rt|13|Kanto}}|14|route 14={{rt|14|Kanto}}|15|route 15={{rt|15|Kanto}}|16|route 16={{rt|16|Kanto}}|17|route 17={{rt|17|Kanto}}|18|route 18={{rt|18|Kanto}}|19|route 19={{rt|19|Kanto}}|20|route 20={{rt|20|Kanto}}|21|route 21={{rt|21|Kanto}}|22|route 22={{rt|22|Kanto}}|23|route 23={{rt|23|Kanto}}|24|route 24={{rt|24|Kanto}}|25|route 25={{rt|25|Kanto}}|26|route 26={{rt|26|Kanto}}|27|route 27={{rt|27|Kanto}}|28|route 28={{rt|28|Kanto}}|29|route 29={{rt|29|Johto}}|30|route 30={{rt|30|Johto}}|31|route 31={{rt|31|Johto}}|32|route 32={{rt|32|Johto}}|33|route 33={{rt|33|Johto}}|34|route 34={{rt|34|Johto}}|35|route 35={{rt|35|Johto}}|36|route 36={{rt|36|Johto}}|37|route 37={{rt|37|Johto}}|38|route 38={{rt|38|Johto}}|39|route 39={{rt|39|Johto}}|40|route 40={{rt|40|Johto}}|41|route 41={{rt|41|Johto}}|42|route 42={{rt|42|Johto}}|43|route 43={{rt|43|Johto}}|44|route 44={{rt|44|Johto}}|45|route 45={{rt|45|Johto}}|46|route 46={{rt|46|Johto}}|violet gym=[[Violet Gym]]|azalea gym=[[Azalea Gym]]|goldenrod gym=[[Goldenrod Gym]]|ecruteak gym=[[Ecruteak Gym]]|cianwood gym=[[Cianwood Gym]]|olivine gym=[[Olivine Gym]]|mahogany gym=[[Mahogany Gym]]|blackthorn gym=[[Blackthorn Gym]]|pewter gym=[[Pewter Gym]]|cerulean gym=[[Cerulean Gym]]|vermilion gym=[[Vermilion Gym]]|celadon gym=[[Celadon Gym]]|fuschia gym=[[Fuschia Gym]]|saffron gym=[[Saffron Gym]]|cinnabar gym=[[Cinnabar Gym]]|viridian gym=[[Viridian Gym]]|newbark|new bark|new bark town=[[New Bark Town]]|cherrygrove|cherrygrove city=Cherrygrove City|pallet|pallet town=[[Pallet Town]]|oak lab|prof oak's lab|professor oak's laboratory=[[Professor Oak's Laboratory|Prof. Oak's Lab]]|viridian|viridian city=[[Viridian City]]|pewter|pewter city=[[Pewter City]]|cerulean|cerulean city=[[Cerulean City]]|vermilion|vermilion city=[[Vermilion City]]|saffron|saffron city=[[Saffron City]]|fighting dojo=[[Fighting Dojo]]|lavender|lavender town=[[Lavender Town]]|fuschia|fuschia city=[[Fuscia City]]|cinnabar|cinnabar island=[[Cinnabar Island]]|indigo plateau=[[Indigo Plateau]]|viridian forest=[[Viridian Forest]]|mt moon|mt. moon|mount moon=[[Mt. Moon]]|diglett's cave=[[Diglett's Cave]]|ss anne|st anne|s.s. anne=[[S.S. Anne]]|rock tunnel=[[Rock Tunnel]]|silph|silph co|silphco|silph co.=Silph Co|power plant=[[Power Plant]]|pokemon tower|pokémon tower=[[Pokémon Tower]]|safari|safari zone={{safari|Kanto}}|seafoam island|seafoam|seafoam islands=[[Seafoam Islands]]|pokemon mansion|pokémon mansion=[[Pokémon Mansion]]|victory road={{ka|Victory Road}}|unknown dungeon|cerulean cave=[[Cerulean Cave]]|Unknown}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{gsclass1|}}}}}|ace trainer|ace trainer♂|ace|ace♂|acetrainer|acetrainer♂|cool trainer|cool trainer♂|cool|cool♂|cooltrainer|cooltrainer♂=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|ace trainer♀|ace♀|acetrainer♀|cool trainer♀|cool♀|cooltrainer♀=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|beauty=[[Beauty (Trainer class)|BEAUTY]]|biker=[[Biker (Trainer class)|BIKER]]|bird keeper|birdkeeper=[[Bird Keeper (Trainer class)|BIRDKEEPER]]|black belt|blackbelt=[[Black Belt (Trainer class)|BLACK BELT]]|bug catcher|bugcatcher=[[Bug Catcher (Trainer class)|BUG CATCHER]]|burglar=[[Burglar (Trainer class)|BURGLAR]]|camper|jr trainer♂|jr. trainer♂|jr♂|junior trainer♂=[[Camper (Trainer class)|CAMPER]]|lance|champion=[[Lance|LANCE]]|elite|elite four=[[Elite Four|ELITE FOUR]]|fisher|fisherman=[[Fisherman (Trainer class)|FISHER]]|gentleman=[[Gentleman (Trainer class)|GENTLEMAN]]|hiker=[[Hiker (Trainer class)|HIKER]]|juggler=[[Juggler (Trainer class)|JUGGLER]]|lass=[[Lass (Trainer class)|LASS]]|gym leader|leader|gym=[[Gym Leader|LEADER]]|picnicker|jr trainer♀|jr♀|junior trainer♀|jr. trainer♀=[[Picnicker (Trainer class)|PICNICKER]]|pokemaniac|pokémaniac|poke maniac|poké maniac=[[Poké Maniac (Trainer class)|POKéMANIAC]]|psychic=[[Psychic (Trainer class)|PSYCHIC]]|rival|silver=[[Rival|RIVAL]]|rocker=[[Rocker (Trainer class)|ROCKER]]|sailor=[[Sailor (Trainer class)|SAILOR]]|scientist=[[Scientist (Trainer class)|SCIENTIST]]|super nerd|nerd|supernerd=[[Super Nerd (Trainer class)|SUPER NERD]]|swimmer♂=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♂]]|swimmer♀=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♀]]|rocket|team rocket|team rocket grunt|rocket grunt=[[Team Rocket Grunt (Trainer class)|ROCKET]]|rocket♀|team rocket♀|team rocket grunt♀|rocket grunt♀=[[Team Rocket Grunt (Trainer class)|ROCKET]]|rocket executive|executive=[[Executive (Trainer class)|ROCKET]]|rocket executive♀|executive♀=[[Rocket Executive (Trainer class)|ROCKET]]|youngster=[[Youngster (Trainer class)|YOUNGSTER]]|boarder=[[Youngster (Trainer class)|BOARDER]]|firebreather|fire breather=[[Firebreather (Trainer class)|FIREBREATHER]]|guitarist=[[Guitarist (Trainer class)|GUITARIST]]|kimono|kimono girl=[[Kimono Girl (Trainer class)|KIMONO GIRL]]|medium=[[Medium (Trainer class)|MEDIUM]]|youngster=[[Youngster (Trainer class)|YOUNGSTER]]|pokefan|poke fan|pokéfan|pokéfan|pokefan♂|poke fan♂|pokéfan♂|poké fan♂=[[Poké Fan (Trainer class)|POKéFAN]]|pokefan♀|poke fan♀|pokéfan♀|poké fan♀=[[Poké Fan (Trainer class)|POKéFAN]]|police|policeman|police officer|officer=[[Policeman (Trainer class)|OFFICER]]|sage=[[Sage (Trainer class)|SAGE]]|school kid|schoolboy=[[School Kid (Trainer class)|SCHOOLBOY]]|skier=[[Skier (Trainer class)|SKIER]]|teacher=[[Teacher (Trainer class)|TEACHER]]|twins=[[Twins (Trainer class)|TWINS]]|trainer|pkmn trainer|pokemon trainer|pokémon trainer|[[Pokémon Trainer|{{PK}}{{MN}} TRAINER]]}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{gsclass1|}}}}}|gym|gym leader|gym leader={{#switch:{{lc:{{{gsname1|}}}}}|falkner=[[Falkner|FALKNER]]|bugsy=[[Bugsy|BUGSY]]|whitney=[[Whitney|WHITNEY]]|morty=[[Morty|MORTY]]|chuck=[[Chuck|CHUCK]]|jasmine=[[Jasmine|JASMINE]]|pryce=[[PRYCE|PRYCE]]|clair=[[Clair|CLAIR]]|brock=[[Brock|BROCK]]|misty=[[Misty|MISTY]]|lt. surge=[[Lt. Surge|LT. SURGE]]|erika=[[Erika|ERIKA]]|janine=[[Janine|Janine]]|sabrina=[[Sabrina|SABRINA]]|blaine=[[BLAINE|BLAINE]]|blue=[[Blue (game)|BLUE]]}}|ace trainer|ace trainer♂|ace|ace♂|acetrainer|acetrainer♂|cool trainer|cool trainer♂|cool|cool♂|cooltrainer|cooltrainer♂|beauty|biker|bird keeper|birdkeeper|black belt|blackbelt|bug catcher|bugcatcher|camper|jr trainer♂|jr. trainer♂|jr♂|junior trainer♂|fisher|fisherman=|gentleman|hiker|juggler|pokemaniac|pokémaniac|poke maniac|poké maniac|psychic|rocker|sailor|scientist|super nerd|nerd|supernerd|swimmer♂|youngster|boarder|firebreather|fire breather|guitarist|youngster|pokefan|poke fan|pokéfan|pokéfan|pokefan♂|poke fan♂|pokéfan♂|poké fan♂|police|policeman|police officer|officer|sage|school kid|schoolboy={{uc:{{{gsname1|}}}}}|ace trainer♀|ace♀|acetrainer♀|cool trainer♀|cool♀|cooltrainer♀|beauty|lass|picnicker|jr trainer♀|jr♀|junior trainer♀|jr. trainer♀|swimmer♀|rocket♀|team rocket♀|team rocket grunt♀|rocket grunt♀|rocket executive♀|executive♀|kimono|kimono girl|medium|pokefan♀|poke fan♀|pokéfan♀|poké fan♀|skier|teacher|twins={{uc:{{{gsname1|}}}}}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{gslv1-1|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{gsgender1-1|}}}|{{{{{gsgender1-1|}}}}}|genderless}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Item
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE1
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE2
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE3
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE4
! style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{gsnotes1|}}}
|
! No one used this Pokémon in Gold or Silver
}}
|}
|}
|- {{#ifexpr: {{{gen|1}}} > 2|style="display:none;"}}
|
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
! width="100%" style="{{roundytop|5px}} background: #{{crystal color}}; line-height: 8pt;" | Crystal
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| class="roundybottom" style="background:#{{johto color light}}; padding:2px;" |
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background:#FFF; padding:3px;"
|-
{{#if:{{{cclass1|}}}|
! style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Location
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{cclass1|}}}}}|ace trainer|ace trainer♂|ace|ace♂|acetrainer|acetrainer♂|cool trainer|cool trainer♂|cool|cool♂|cooltrainer|cooltrainer♂=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|ace trainer♀|ace♀|acetrainer♀|cool trainer♀|cool♀|cooltrainer♀=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|beauty=[[Beauty (Trainer class)|BEAUTY]]|biker=[[Biker (Trainer class)|BIKER]]|bird keeper|birdkeeper=[[Bird Keeper (Trainer class)|BIRDKEEPER]]|black belt|blackbelt=[[Black Belt (Trainer class)|BLACK BELT]]|bug catcher|bugcatcher=[[Bug Catcher (Trainer class)|BUG CATCHER]]|burglar=[[Burglar (Trainer class)|BURGLAR]]|camper|jr trainer♂|jr. trainer♂|jr♂|junior trainer♂=[[Camper (Trainer class)|CAMPER]]|lance|champion=[[Lance|LANCE]]|elite|elite four=[[Elite Four|ELITE FOUR]]|fisher|fisherman=[[Fisherman (Trainer class)|FISHER]]|gentleman=[[Gentleman (Trainer class)|GENTLEMAN]]|hiker=[[Hiker (Trainer class)|HIKER]]|juggler=[[Juggler (Trainer class)|JUGGLER]]|lass=[[Lass (Trainer class)|LASS]]|gym leader|leader|gym=[[Gym Leader|LEADER]]|picnicker|jr trainer♀|jr♀|junior trainer♀|jr. trainer♀=[[Picnicker (Trainer class)|PICNICKER]]|pokemaniac|pokémaniac|poke maniac|poké maniac=[[Poké Maniac (Trainer class)|POKéMANIAC]]|psychic=[[Psychic (Trainer class)|PSYCHIC]]|rival|silver=[[Rival|RIVAL]]|rocker=[[Rocker (Trainer class)|ROCKER]]|sailor=[[Sailor (Trainer class)|SAILOR]]|scientist=[[Scientist (Trainer class)|SCIENTIST]]|super nerd|nerd|supernerd=[[Super Nerd (Trainer class)|SUPER NERD]]|swimmer♂=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♂]]|swimmer♀=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♀]]|rocket|team rocket|team rocket grunt|rocket grunt=[[Team Rocket Grunt (Trainer class)|ROCKET]]|rocket♀|team rocket♀|team rocket grunt♀|rocket grunt♀=[[Team Rocket Grunt (Trainer class)|ROCKET]]|rocket executive|executive=[[Executive (Trainer class)|ROCKET]]|rocket executive♀|executive♀=[[Rocket Executive (Trainer class)|ROCKET]]|youngster=[[Youngster (Trainer class)|YOUNGSTER]]|boarder=[[Youngster (Trainer class)|BOARDER]]|firebreather|fire breather=[[Firebreather (Trainer class)|FIREBREATHER]]|guitarist=[[Guitarist (Trainer class)|GUITARIST]]|kimono|kimono girl=[[Kimono Girl (Trainer class)|KIMONO GIRL]]|medium=[[Medium (Trainer class)|MEDIUM]]|youngster=[[Youngster (Trainer class)|YOUNGSTER]]|pokefan|poke fan|pokéfan|pokéfan|pokefan♂|poke fan♂|pokéfan♂|poké fan♂=[[Poké Fan (Trainer class)|POKéFAN]]|pokefan♀|poke fan♀|pokéfan♀|poké fan♀=[[Poké Fan (Trainer class)|POKéFAN]]|police|policeman|police officer|officer=[[Policeman (Trainer class)|OFFICER]]|sage=[[Sage (Trainer class)|SAGE]]|school kid|schoolboy=[[School Kid (Trainer class)|SCHOOLBOY]]|skier=[[Skier (Trainer class)|SKIER]]|teacher=[[Teacher (Trainer class)|TEACHER]]|twins=[[Twins (Trainer class)|TWINS]]|mystery man|mysticalman|mystical man|mysteryman|eusine=[[Mystery Man (Trainer class)|MYSTICALMAN]]|trainer|pkmn trainer|pokemon trainer|pokémon trainer|[[Pokémon Trainer|{{PK}}{{MN}} TRAINER]]}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{clv1-1|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{cgender1-1|}}}|{{{{{cgender1-1|}}}}}|genderless}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Item
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE1
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE2
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE3
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE4
! style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{cnotes1|}}}
|
! No one used this Pokémon in Crystal
}}
|}
|}
|- {{#ifexpr: {{{gen|1}}} > 3|style="display:none;"}}
|
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
! width="50%" style="{{roundytl|5px}} background: #{{ruby color}}; line-height: 8pt;" | Ruby
! width="50%" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background: #{{sapphire color}}; line-height: 8pt;" | Sapphire
|
|-
| colspan="2" class="roundybottom" style="background:#{{hoenn color light}}; padding:2px;" |
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background:#FFF; padding:3px;"
|-
{{#if:{{{rsclass1|}}}|
! style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Location
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{rsclass1|}}}}}|ace trainer|ace trainer♂|ace|ace♂|acetrainer|acetrainer♂|cool trainer|cool trainer♂|cool|cool♂|cooltrainer|cooltrainer♂=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|ace trainer♀|ace♀|acetrainer♀|cool trainer♀|cool♀|cooltrainer♀=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|beauty=[[Beauty (Trainer class)|BEAUTY]]|bird keeper|birdkeeper=[[Bird Keeper (Trainer class)|BIRDKEEPER]]|black belt|blackbelt=[[Black Belt (Trainer class)|BLACKBELT]]|bug catcher|bugcatcher=[[Bug Catcher (Trainer class)|BUG CATCHER]]|camper|jr trainer♂|jr. trainer♂|jr♂|junior trainer♂=[[Camper (Trainer class)|CAMPER]]|champion=[[Champion|CHAMPION]]|elite four=[[Elite Four|ELITE FOUR]]|fisher|fisherman=[[Fisherman (Trainer class)|FISHERMAN]]|gentleman=[[Gentleman (Trainer class)|GENTLEMAN]]|hiker=[[Hiker (Trainer class)|HIKER]]|lass=[[Lass (Trainer class)|LASS]]|gym leader|leader|gym=[[Gym Leader|LEADER]]|picnicker|jr trainer♀|jr♀|junior trainer♀|jr. trainer♀=[[Picnicker (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♀]]|pokemaniac|pokémaniac|poke maniac|poké maniac=[[Poké Maniac (Trainer class)|POKéMANIAC]]|psychic|psychic♂=[[Psychic (Trainer class)|PSYCHIC]]|psychic♀=[[Psychic (Trainer class)|PSYCHIC]]|team aqua boss|aqua boss|aqua leader|team aqua leader|archie=[[Archie|AQUA LEADER]]|team magma boss|magma boss|magma leader|team magma leader|maxie=[[Maxie|MAGMA LEADER]]|sailor=[[Sailor (Trainer class)|SAILOR]]|swimmer♂=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♂]]|swimmer♀=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♀]]|aqua|team aqua|team aqua grunt=[[Team Aqua Grunt (Trainer class)|Team Aqua]]|aqua♀|team aqua♀|team aqua grunt♀=[[Team Aqua Grunt (Trainer class)|Team Aqua]]|youngster=[[Youngster (Trainer class)|YOUNGSTER]]|aroma|aroma lady|aromalady=[[Aroma Lady (Trainer class)|AROMA LADY]]|battle|battle girl|battlegirl=[[Battle Girl (Trainer class)|Battle Girl]]|bug maniac|bugmaniac=[[Bug Maniac (Trainer class)|BUG MANIAC]]|collector=[[Collector (Trainer class)|COLLECTOR]]|dragon tamer=[[Dragon Tamer (Trainer class)|DRAGON TAMER]]|expert|expert♂=[[Expert (Trainer class)|EXPERT]]|expert♀=[[Expert (Trainer class)|EXPERT]]|guitarist=[[Guitarist (Trainer class)|GUITARIST]]|hex|hex maniac=[[Hex Maniac (Trainer class)|HEX MANIAC]]|interviewer=[[Interviewer (Trainer class)|Interviewer]]|kindler=[[Kindler (Trainer class)|KINDLER]]|lady=[[Lady (Trainer class)|LADY]]|ninja|ninja boy|ninjaboy=[[Ninja Boy (Trainer class)|NINJA BOY]]|old couple=[[Old Couple (Trainer class)|OLD COUPLE]]|pokefan|poke fan|pokéfan|poké fan|pokefan♂|poké fan♂|poke fan♂|pokéfan♂=[[Poké Fan (Trainer class)|POKéFAN]]|pokefan♀|poke fan♀|pokéfan♀|poké fan♀=[[Poké Fan (Trainer class)|POKéFAN]]|ranger|ranger♂|pkmn ranger|pkmn ranger♂|pokemon ranger|pokemon ranger♂|pokémon ranger|pokémon ranger♂=[[Pokémon Ranger (Trainer class)|{{PK}}{{MN}} RANGER]]|ranger♀|pkmn ranger♀|pokemon ranger♀|pokémon ranger♀=[[Pokémon Ranger (Trainer class)|{{PK}}{{MN}} RANGER]]|breeder|pkmn breeder|pokemon breeder|pokémon breeder|breeder♂|pkmn breeder♂|pokemon breeder♂|pokémon breeder♂=[[Pokémon Breeder (Trainer class)|{{PK}}{{MN}} BREEDER]]|collector=[[Pokémon Breeder (Trainer class)|{{PK}}{{MN}} Breeder]]|pkmn trainer|pokemon trainer|trainer|pokémon trainer=[[Pokémon Trainer|{{PK}}{{MN}} TRAINER]]}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} NAME
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rslv1-1|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{rsgender1-1|}}}|{{{{{rsgender1-1|}}}}}|genderless}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Item
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Ability
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE1
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE2
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE3
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE4
! style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{rsnotes1|}}}
|
! No one used this Pokémon in Ruby or Sapphire
}}
|}
|}
|- {{#ifexpr: {{{gen|1}}} > 3|style="display:none;"}}
|
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
! width="50%" style="{{roundytl|5px}} background: #{{firered color}}; line-height: 8pt;" {{!}} FireRed
! width="50%" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background: #{{leafgreen color}}; line-height: 8pt;" {{!}} LeafGreen
|
|-
| colspan="2" class="roundybottom" style="background:#{{hoenn color light}}; padding:2px;" {{!}}
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background:#FFF; padding:3px;"
|-
{{#if:{{{frlgclass1|}}}|
! style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Location
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{frlgclass1|}}}}}|ace trainer|ace trainer♂|ace|ace♂|acetrainer|acetrainer♂|cool trainer|cool trainer♂|cool|cool♂|cooltrainer|cooltrainer♂=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|ace trainer♀|ace♀|acetrainer♀|cool trainer♀|cool♀|cooltrainer♀=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|beauty=[[Beauty (Trainer class)|BEAUTY]]|biker=[[Biker (Trainer class)|BIKER]]|bird keeper|birdkeeper=[[Bird Keeper (Trainer class)|BIRDKEEPER]]|black belt|blackbelt=[[Black Belt (Trainer class)|BLACKBELT]]|bug catcher|bugcatcher=[[Bug Catcher (Trainer class)|BUG CATCHER]]|burglar=[[Burglar (Trainer class)|BURGLAR]]|camper|jr trainer♂|jr. trainer♂|jr♂|junior trainer♂=[[Camper (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♂]]|rival|blue|champion=[[Blue (game)|BLUE]]|channeler=[[Channeler (Trainer class)|CHANNELER]]|cue ball|roughneck=[[Roughneck (Trainer class)|CUE BALL]]|lorelei=[[Lorelei|LORELEI]]|bruno=[[Bruno|BRUNO]]|agatha=[[Agatha|AGATHA]]|lance=[[Lance|LANCE]]|engineer=[[engineer (Trainer class)|ENGINEER]]|fisher|fisherman=[[Fisherman (Trainer class)|FISHERMAN]]|gamer|gambler|pi=[[PI (Trainer class)|GAMBLER]]|gentleman=[[Gentleman (Trainer class)|GENTLEMAN]]|hiker=[[Hiker (Trainer class)|HIKER]]|juggler=[[Juggler (Trainer class)|JUGGLER]]|lass=[[Lass (Trainer class)|LASS]]|gym leader|leader|gym=[[Gym Leader|LEADER]]|picnicker|jr trainer♀|jr♀|junior trainer♀|jr. trainer♀=[[Picnicker (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♀]]|pokemaniac|pokémaniac|poke maniac|poké maniac=[[Poké Maniac (Trainer class)|POKéMANIAC]]|psychic=[[Psychic (Trainer class)|PSYCHIC]]|rocker=[[Rocker (Trainer class)|ROCKER]]|team rocket boss|rocket boss|boss|rocket leader|team rocket leader|giovanni=[[Giovanni)|GIOVANNI]]|sailor=[[Sailor (Trainer class)|SAILOR]]|scientist=[[Scientist (Trainer class)|SCIENTIST]]|super nerd|nerd|supernerd=[[Super Nerd (Trainer class)|SUPER NERD]]|swimmer♂=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♂]]|swimmer♀=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♀]]|tamer=[[Tamer (Trainer class)|TAMER]]|rocket|team rocket|team rocket grunt=[[Team Rocket Grunt (Trainer class)|ROCKET]]|youngster=[[Youngster (Trainer class)|YOUNGSTER]]|[[Pokémon Trainer|{{PK}}{{MN}} TRAINER]]}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} NAME
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{frlglv1-1|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{frlggender1-1|}}}|{{{{{frlggender1-1|}}}}}|genderless}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Item
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Ability
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE1
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE2
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE3
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE4
! style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{frlgnotes1|}}}
|
! No one used this Pokémon in FireRed or LeafGreen
}}
|}
|}
|- {{#ifexpr: {{{gen|1}}} > 3|style="display:none;"}}
|
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
! width="100%" style="{{roundytop|5px}} background: #{{emerald color}}; line-height: 8pt;" | Emerald
|
|-
| class="roundybottom" style="background:#{{hoenn color light}}; padding:2px;" |
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background:#FFF; padding:3px;"
|-
{{#if:{{{eclass1|}}}|
! style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Location
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} CLASS
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} NAME
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{elv1-1|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{egender1-1|}}}|{{{{{xygender1-1|}}}}}|genderless}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Item
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Ability
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE1
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE2
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE3
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE4
! style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{enotes1|}}}
|
! No one used this Pokémon in Emerald
}}
|}
|}
|- {{#ifexpr: {{{gen|1}}} > 4|style="display:none;"}}
|
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
! width="50%" style="{{roundytl|5px}} background: #{{diamond color light}}; line-height: 8pt;" | Diamond
! width="50%" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background: #{{pearl color}}; line-height: 8pt;" | Pearl
|-
| colspan="2" class="roundybottom" style="background:#{{sinnoh color light}}; padding:2px;" |
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background:#FFF; padding:3px;"
|-
{{#if:{{{dpclass1|}}}|
! style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{sinnoh color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Location
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{sinnoh color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{dpclass1|}}}}}|ace trainer|ace trainer♂|ace|ace♂|acetrainer|acetrainer♂|cool trainer|cool trainer♂|cool|cool♂|cooltrainer|cooltrainer♂=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|ace trainer♀|ace♀|acetrainer♀|cool trainer♀|cool♀|cooltrainer♀=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|beauty=[[Beauty (Trainer class)|BEAUTY]]|biker=[[Biker (Trainer class)|BIKER]]|bird keeper|birdkeeper=[[Bird Keeper (Trainer class)|BIRDKEEPER]]|black belt|blackbelt=[[Black Belt (Trainer class)|BLACKBELT]]|bug catcher|bugcatcher=[[Bug Catcher (Trainer class)|BUG CATCHER]]|burglar=[[Burglar (Trainer class)|BURGLAR]]|camper|jr trainer♂|jr. trainer♂|jr♂|junior trainer♂=[[Camper (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♂]]|rival|blue|champion=[[Blue (game)|BLUE]]|channeler=[[Channeler (Trainer class)|CHANNELER]]|cue ball|roughneck=[[Roughneck (Trainer class)|CUE BALL]]|lorelei=[[Lorelei|LORELEI]]|bruno=[[Bruno|BRUNO]]|agatha=[[Agatha|AGATHA]]|lance=[[Lance|LANCE]]|engineer=[[engineer (Trainer class)|ENGINEER]]|fisher|fisherman=[[Fisherman (Trainer class)|FISHERMAN]]|gamer|gambler|pi=[[PI (Trainer class)|GAMBLER]]|gentleman=[[Gentleman (Trainer class)|GENTLEMAN]]|hiker=[[Hiker (Trainer class)|HIKER]]|juggler=[[Juggler (Trainer class)|JUGGLER]]|lass=[[Lass (Trainer class)|LASS]]|gym leader|leader|gym=[[Gym Leader|LEADER]]|picnicker|jr trainer♀|jr♀|junior trainer♀|jr. trainer♀=[[Picnicker (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♀]]|pokemaniac|pokémaniac|poke maniac|poké maniac=[[Poké Maniac (Trainer class)|POKéMANIAC]]|psychic=[[Psychic (Trainer class)|PSYCHIC]]|rocker=[[Rocker (Trainer class)|ROCKER]]|team rocket boss|rocket boss|boss|rocket leader|team rocket leader|giovanni=[[Giovanni)|GIOVANNI]]|sailor=[[Sailor (Trainer class)|SAILOR]]|scientist=[[Scientist (Trainer class)|SCIENTIST]]|super nerd|nerd|supernerd=[[Super Nerd (Trainer class)|SUPER NERD]]|swimmer♂=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♂]]|swimmer♀=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♀]]|tamer=[[Tamer (Trainer class)|TAMER]]|rocket|team rocket|team rocket grunt=[[Team Rocket Grunt (Trainer class)|ROCKET]]|youngster=[[Youngster (Trainer class)|YOUNGSTER]]|[[Pokémon Trainer|{{PK}}{{MN}} TRAINER]]}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{sinnoh color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} NAME
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{sinnoh color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{dplv1-1|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{sinnoh color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{dpgender1-1|}}}|{{{{{xygender1-1|}}}}}|genderless}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{sinnoh color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Item
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{sinnoh color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Ability
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{sinnoh color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE1
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{sinnoh color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE2
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{sinnoh color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE3
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{sinnoh color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE4
! style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{sinnoh color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{dpnotes1|}}}
|
! No one used this Pokémon in Diamond or Pearl
}}
|}
|}
|- {{#ifexpr: {{{gen|1}}} > 3|style="display:none;"}}
|
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
! width="100%" style="{{roundytl|5px}} background: #{{platinum color}}; line-height: 8pt;" | Platinum
|
|-
| class="roundybottom" style="background:#{{sinnoh color light}}; padding:2px;" |
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background:#FFF; padding:3px;"
|-
{{#if:{{{pclass1|}}}|
! style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Location
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{sinnoh color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{sinnoh color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} NAME
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{sinnoh color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{plv1-1|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{sinnoh color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{pgender1-1|}}}|{{{{{pgender1-1|}}}}}|genderless}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{sinnoh color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Item
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{sinnoh color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Ability
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{sinnoh color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE1
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{sinnoh color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE2
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{sinnoh color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE3
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{sinnoh color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE4
! style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{sinnoh color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{pnotes1|}}}
|
! No one used this Pokémon in Platinum
}}
|}
|}
|- {{#ifexpr: {{{gen|1}}} > 3|style="display:none;"}}
|
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
! width="50%" style="{{roundytl|5px}} background: #{{heartgold color}}; line-height: 8pt;" | HeartGold
! width="50%" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background: #{{soulsilver color}}; line-height: 8pt;" | SoulSilver
|
|-
| colspan="2" class="roundybottom" style="background:#{{sinnoh color light}}; padding:2px;" |
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background:#FFF; padding:3px;"
|-
{{#if:{{{hgssclass1|}}}|
! style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Location
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{hgssclass1|}}}}}|ace trainer|ace trainer♂|ace|ace♂|acetrainer|acetrainer♂|cool trainer|cool trainer♂|cool|cool♂|cooltrainer|cooltrainer♂=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|ace trainer♀|ace♀|acetrainer♀|cool trainer♀|cool♀|cooltrainer♀=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|beauty=[[Beauty (Trainer class)|BEAUTY]]|biker=[[Biker (Trainer class)|BIKER]]|bird keeper|birdkeeper=[[Bird Keeper (Trainer class)|BIRDKEEPER]]|black belt|blackbelt=[[Black Belt (Trainer class)|BLACKBELT]]|bug catcher|bugcatcher=[[Bug Catcher (Trainer class)|BUG CATCHER]]|burglar=[[Burglar (Trainer class)|BURGLAR]]|camper|jr trainer♂|jr. trainer♂|jr♂|junior trainer♂=[[Camper (Trainer class)|CAMPER]]|lance|champion=[[Lance|LANCE]]|elite|elite four=[[Elite Four|ELITE FOUR]]|fisher|fisherman=[[Fisherman (Trainer class)|FISHER]]|gentleman=[[Gentleman (Trainer class)|GENTLEMAN]]|hiker=[[Hiker (Trainer class)|HIKER]]|juggler=[[Juggler (Trainer class)|JUGGLER]]|lass=[[Lass (Trainer class)|LASS]]|gym leader|leader|gym=[[Gym Leader|LEADER]]|picnicker|jr trainer♀|jr♀|junior trainer♀|jr. trainer♀=[[Picnicker (Trainer class)|PICNICKER]]|pokemaniac|pokémaniac|poke maniac|poké maniac=[[Poké Maniac (Trainer class)|POKéMANIAC]]|psychic=[[Psychic (Trainer class)|PSYCHIC]]|rival|silver=[[Rival|RIVAL]]|rocker=[[Rocker (Trainer class)|ROCKER]]|sailor=[[Sailor (Trainer class)|SAILOR]]|scientist=[[Scientist (Trainer class)|SCIENTIST]]|super nerd|nerd|supernerd=[[Super Nerd (Trainer class)|SUPER NERD]]|swimmer♂=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♂]]|swimmer♀=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♀]]|rocket|team rocket|team rocket grunt|rocket grunt=[[Team Rocket Grunt (Trainer class)|ROCKET]]|rocket♀|team rocket♀|team rocket grunt♀|rocket grunt♀=[[Team Rocket Grunt (Trainer class)|ROCKET]]|rocket executive|executive=[[Executive (Trainer class)|ROCKET]]|rocket executive♀|executive♀=[[Rocket Executive (Trainer class)|ROCKET]]|youngster=[[Youngster (Trainer class)|YOUNGSTER]]|boarder=[[Youngster (Trainer class)|BOARDER]]|firebreather|fire breather=[[Firebreather (Trainer class)|FIREBREATHER]]|guitarist=[[Guitarist (Trainer class)|GUITARIST]]|kimono|kimono girl=[[Kimono Girl (Trainer class)|KIMONO GIRL]]|medium=[[Medium (Trainer class)|MEDIUM]]|youngster=[[Youngster (Trainer class)|YOUNGSTER]]|pokefan|poke fan|pokéfan|pokéfan|pokefan♂|poke fan♂|pokéfan♂|poké fan♂=[[Poké Fan (Trainer class)|POKéFAN]]|pokefan♀|poke fan♀|pokéfan♀|poké fan♀=[[Poké Fan (Trainer class)|POKéFAN]]|police|policeman|police officer|officer=[[Policeman (Trainer class)|OFFICER]]|sage=[[Sage (Trainer class)|SAGE]]|school kid|schoolboy=[[School Kid (Trainer class)|SCHOOLBOY]]|skier=[[Skier (Trainer class)|SKIER]]|teacher=[[Teacher (Trainer class)|TEACHER]]|twins=[[Twins (Trainer class)|TWINS]]|[[Pokémon Trainer|{{PK}}{{MN}} TRAINER]]}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} NAME
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{hgsslv1-1|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{hgssgender1-1|}}}|{{{{{hgssgender1-1|}}}}}|genderless}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Item
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Ability
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE1
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE2
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE3
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE4
! style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{hgssnotes1|}}}
|
! No one used this Pokémon in HeartGold or SoulSilver
}}
|}
|}
|- {{#ifexpr: {{{gen|1}}} > 5|style="display:none;"}}
|
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
! width="50%" style="{{roundytl|5px}} background: #{{black color}}; line-height: 8pt;" | Black
! width="50%" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background: #{{white color}}; line-height: 8pt;" | White
|
|-
| colspan="2" class="roundybottom" style="background:#{{unova color light}}; padding:2px;" |
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background:#FFF; padding:3px;"
|-
{{#if:{{{bwclass1|}}}|
! style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{unova color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Location
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{unova color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{bwclass1|}}}}}|ace trainer|ace trainer♂|ace|ace♂|acetrainer|acetrainer♂|cool trainer|cool trainer♂|cool|cool♂|cooltrainer|cooltrainer♂=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|ace trainer♀|ace♀|acetrainer♀|cool trainer♀|cool♀|cooltrainer♀=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|beauty=[[Beauty (Trainer class)|BEAUTY]]|biker=[[Biker (Trainer class)|BIKER]]|bird keeper|birdkeeper=[[Bird Keeper (Trainer class)|BIRDKEEPER]]|black belt|blackbelt=[[Black Belt (Trainer class)|BLACKBELT]]|bug catcher|bugcatcher=[[Bug Catcher (Trainer class)|BUG CATCHER]]|burglar=[[Burglar (Trainer class)|BURGLAR]]|camper|jr trainer♂|jr. trainer♂|jr♂|junior trainer♂=[[Camper (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♂]]|rival|blue|champion=[[Blue (game)|BLUE]]|channeler=[[Channeler (Trainer class)|CHANNELER]]|cue ball|roughneck=[[Roughneck (Trainer class)|CUE BALL]]|lorelei=[[Lorelei|LORELEI]]|bruno=[[Bruno|BRUNO]]|agatha=[[Agatha|AGATHA]]|lance=[[Lance|LANCE]]|engineer=[[engineer (Trainer class)|ENGINEER]]|fisher|fisherman=[[Fisherman (Trainer class)|FISHERMAN]]|gamer|gambler|pi=[[PI (Trainer class)|GAMBLER]]|gentleman=[[Gentleman (Trainer class)|GENTLEMAN]]|hiker=[[Hiker (Trainer class)|HIKER]]|juggler=[[Juggler (Trainer class)|JUGGLER]]|lass=[[Lass (Trainer class)|LASS]]|gym leader|leader|gym=[[Gym Leader|LEADER]]|picnicker|jr trainer♀|jr♀|junior trainer♀|jr. trainer♀=[[Picnicker (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♀]]|pokemaniac|pokémaniac|poke maniac|poké maniac=[[Poké Maniac (Trainer class)|POKéMANIAC]]|psychic=[[Psychic (Trainer class)|PSYCHIC]]|rocker=[[Rocker (Trainer class)|ROCKER]]|team rocket boss|rocket boss|boss|rocket leader|team rocket leader|giovanni=[[Giovanni)|GIOVANNI]]|sailor=[[Sailor (Trainer class)|SAILOR]]|scientist=[[Scientist (Trainer class)|SCIENTIST]]|super nerd|nerd|supernerd=[[Super Nerd (Trainer class)|SUPER NERD]]|swimmer♂=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♂]]|swimmer♀=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♀]]|tamer=[[Tamer (Trainer class)|TAMER]]|rocket|team rocket|team rocket grunt=[[Team Rocket Grunt (Trainer class)|ROCKET]]|youngster=[[Youngster (Trainer class)|YOUNGSTER]]|[[Pokémon Trainer|{{PK}}{{MN}} TRAINER]]}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{unova color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} NAME
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{unova color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{bwlv1-1|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{unova color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{bwgender1-1|}}}|{{{{{bwgender1-1|}}}}}|genderless}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{unova color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Item
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{unova color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Ability
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{unova color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE1
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{unova color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE2
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{unova color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE3
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{unova color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE4
! style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{unova color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{bwnotes1|}}}
|
! No one used this Pokémon in Black or White
}}
|}
|}
|- {{#ifexpr: {{{gen|1}}} > 5|style="display:none;"}}
|
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
! width="50%" style="{{roundytl|5px}} background: #{{black 2 color}}; line-height: 8pt;" | Black 2
! width="50%" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background: #{{white 2 color}}; line-height: 8pt;" | White 2
|
|-
| colspan="2" class="roundybottom" style="background:#{{unova color light}}; padding:2px;" |
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background:#FFF; padding:3px;"
|-
{{#if:{{{b2w2class1|}}}|
! style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{unova color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Location
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{unova color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} CLASS
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{unova color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} NAME
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{unova color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{b2w2lv1-1|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{unova color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{b2w2gender1-1|}}}|{{{{{b2w2gender1-1|}}}}}|genderless}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{unova color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Item
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{unova color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Ability
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{unova color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE1
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{unova color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE2
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{unova color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE3
! style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{unova color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE4
|
! No one used this Pokémon in Black 2 or White 2
}}
|}
|}
|- {{#ifexpr: {{{gen|1}}} > 6|style="display:none;"}}
|
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
! width="50%" style="{{roundytl|5px}} background: #{{x color}}; line-height: 8pt;" | X
! width="50%" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background: #{{y color}}; line-height: 8pt;" | Y
|
|-
| colspan="2" class="roundybottom" style="background:#{{kalos color light}}; padding:2px;" |
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background:#FFF; padding:3px;"
|-
{{#if:{{{xyclass1|}}}|
! style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kalos color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Location
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kalos color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{xyclass1|}}}}}|ace trainer|ace trainer♂|ace|ace♂|acetrainer|acetrainer♂|cool trainer|cool trainer♂|cool|cool♂|cooltrainer|cooltrainer♂=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|ace trainer♀|ace♀|acetrainer♀|cool trainer♀|cool♀|cooltrainer♀=[[Ace Trainer (Trainer class)|COOLTRAINER]]|beauty=[[Beauty (Trainer class)|BEAUTY]]|biker=[[Biker (Trainer class)|BIKER]]|bird keeper|birdkeeper=[[Bird Keeper (Trainer class)|BIRDKEEPER]]|black belt|blackbelt=[[Black Belt (Trainer class)|BLACKBELT]]|bug catcher|bugcatcher=[[Bug Catcher (Trainer class)|BUG CATCHER]]|burglar=[[Burglar (Trainer class)|BURGLAR]]|camper|jr trainer♂|jr. trainer♂|jr♂|junior trainer♂=[[Camper (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♂]]|rival|blue|champion=[[Blue (game)|BLUE]]|channeler=[[Channeler (Trainer class)|CHANNELER]]|cue ball|roughneck=[[Roughneck (Trainer class)|CUE BALL]]|lorelei=[[Lorelei|LORELEI]]|bruno=[[Bruno|BRUNO]]|agatha=[[Agatha|AGATHA]]|lance=[[Lance|LANCE]]|engineer=[[engineer (Trainer class)|ENGINEER]]|fisher|fisherman=[[Fisherman (Trainer class)|FISHERMAN]]|gamer|gambler|pi=[[PI (Trainer class)|GAMBLER]]|gentleman=[[Gentleman (Trainer class)|GENTLEMAN]]|hiker=[[Hiker (Trainer class)|HIKER]]|juggler=[[Juggler (Trainer class)|JUGGLER]]|lass=[[Lass (Trainer class)|LASS]]|gym leader|leader|gym=[[Gym Leader|LEADER]]|picnicker|jr trainer♀|jr♀|junior trainer♀|jr. trainer♀=[[Picnicker (Trainer class)|JR. TRAINER♀]]|pokemaniac|pokémaniac|poke maniac|poké maniac=[[Poké Maniac (Trainer class)|POKéMANIAC]]|psychic=[[Psychic (Trainer class)|PSYCHIC]]|rocker=[[Rocker (Trainer class)|ROCKER]]|team rocket boss|rocket boss|boss|rocket leader|team rocket leader|giovanni=[[Giovanni)|GIOVANNI]]|sailor=[[Sailor (Trainer class)|SAILOR]]|scientist=[[Scientist (Trainer class)|SCIENTIST]]|super nerd|nerd|supernerd=[[Super Nerd (Trainer class)|SUPER NERD]]|swimmer♂=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♂]]|swimmer♀=[[Swimmer (Trainer class)|SWIMMER♀]]|tamer=[[Tamer (Trainer class)|TAMER]]|rocket|team rocket|team rocket grunt=[[Team Rocket Grunt (Trainer class)|ROCKET]]|youngster=[[Youngster (Trainer class)|YOUNGSTER]]|[[Pokémon Trainer|{{PK}}{{MN}} TRAINER]]}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kalos color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} NAME
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kalos color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{xylv1-1|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kalos color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{xygender1-1|}}}|{{{{{xygender1-1|}}}}}|genderless}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kalos color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Item
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kalos color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Ability
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kalos color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE1
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kalos color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE2
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kalos color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE3
! style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{kalos color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE4
|
! No one used this Pokémon in X or Y
}}
|}
|}
|- {{#ifexpr: {{{gen|1}}} > 6|style="display:none;"}}
|
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
! width="50%" style="{{roundytl|5px}} background: #{{omega ruby color}}; line-height: 8pt;" | Omega Ruby
! width="50%" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background: #{{alpha sapphire color}}; line-height: 8pt;" | Alpha Sapphire
|
|-
| colspan="2" class="roundybottom" style="background:#{{hoenn color light}}; padding:2px;" |
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background:#FFF; padding:3px;"
|-
{{#if:{{{orasclass1|}}}|
! style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Location
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} CLASS
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} NAME
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{oraslv1-1|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{orasgender1-1|}}}|{{{{{orasgender1-1|}}}}}|genderless}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Item
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Ability
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE1
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE2
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE3
! style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE4
|
! No one used this Pokémon in Omega Ruby or or Alpha Sapphire
}}
|}
|}
|- {{#ifexpr: {{{gen|1}}} > 7|style="display:none;"}}
|
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
! width="50%" style="{{roundytl|5px}} background: #{{sun color}}; line-height: 8pt;" | Sun
! width="50%" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background: #{{moon color}}; line-height: 8pt;" | Moon
|
|-
| colspan="2" class="roundybottom" style="background:#{{alola color light}}; padding:2px;" |
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background:#FFF; padding:3px;"
|-
{{#if:{{{smclass1|}}}|
! style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{alola color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Location
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{alola color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} CLASS
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{alola color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} NAME
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{alola color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{smlv1-1|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{alola color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{smgender1-1|}}}|{{{{{smgender1-1|}}}}}|genderless}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{alola color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Item
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{alola color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Ability
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{alola color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE1
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{alola color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE2
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{alola color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE3
! style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{alola color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE4
|
! No one used this Pokémon in Sun or Moon
}}
|}
|}
|- {{#ifexpr: {{{gen|1}}} > 7|style="display:none;"}}
|
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
! width="50%" style="{{roundytl|5px}} background: #{{ultra sun color}}; line-height: 8pt;" | Ultra Sun
! width="50%" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background: #{{ultra moon color}}; line-height: 8pt;" | Ultra Moon
|
|-
| colspan="2" class="roundybottom" style="background:#{{alola color light}}; padding:2px;" |
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background:#FFF; padding:3px;"
|-
{{#if:{{{b2w2class1|}}}|
! style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{unova color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Location
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{alola color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} CLASS
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{alola color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} NAME
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{alola color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{usumlv1-1|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{alola color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{usumgender1-1|}}}|{{{{{b2w2gender1-1|}}}}}|genderless}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{alola color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Item
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{alola color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Ability
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{alola color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE1
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{alola color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE2
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{alola color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE3
! style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{alola color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE4
|
! No one used this Pokémon in Ultra Sun or Ultra Moon
}}
|}
|}
|- {{#ifexpr: {{{gen|1}}} > 5|style="display:none;"}}
|
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
! width="50%" style="{{roundytl|5px}} background: #{{sword color}}; line-height: 8pt;" | Sword
! width="50%" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background: #{{shield color}}; line-height: 8pt;" | Shield
|
|-
| colspan="2" class="roundybottom" style="background:#{{galar color light}}; padding:2px;" |
{| width="100%" class="roundy" style="background:#FFF; padding:3px;"
|-
{{#if:{{{b2w2class1|}}}|
! style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{galar color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Location
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{galar color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} CLASS
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{galar color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} NAME
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{galar color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{{sslv1-1|1}}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{galar color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} {{#if:{{{ssgender1-1|}}}|{{{{{ssgender1-1|}}}}}|genderless}}
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{galar color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Item
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{galar color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} Ability
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{galar color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE1
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{galar color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE2
! style="background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{galar color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE3
! style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#FFF; border: 2px solid #{{galar color}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} MOVE4
|
! No one used this Pokémon in Sword or Shield
}}
|}
|}
|} <br/ style="clear:both;">

Pokkén Tournament

2020-05-11T18:07:07Z

SeanWheeler: /* Pokémon */ Now that the fighter pages are finally in the mainspace.

{{Infobox game
|colorscheme=silver|bordercolorscheme=white
|name=Pokkén Tournament
|name2=Pokkén Tournament DX
|jname=ポッ拳 {{j|POKKÉN TOURNAMENT}}
|jname2=ポッ拳 {{j|POKKÉN TOURNAMENT DX}}
|boxart=Pokkén Tournament EN boxart.png
|boxart2=PTDX box art.png
|caption=Pokkén Tournament North American boxart
|caption2=Pokkén Tournament DX North American boxart
|jbox=Pokkén Tournament JP boxart.png
|jbox2=PTDX JP boxart.png
|jcaption=Pokkén Tournament Japanese boxart
|jcaption2=Pokkén Tournament DX Japanese boxart
|platform=Arcade, [[Wii U]], [[Nintendo Switch]]
|category=Fighting
|players=1-2
|developer={{wp|Bandai Namco Entertainment}}
|publisher=Bandai Namco Entertainment (Arcade) [[The Pokémon Company]] (Consoles; Japan) [[Nintendo]] (Consoles; International)
|gen_series=[[Generation VI]] and {{gen|VII}} [[Spin-off Pokémon games|spin off]]
|cero=A
|esrb=E10+
|acb=PG
|oflc=N/A
|pegi=7
|gsrr=6+
|release_date_ja=July 16, 2015 (Arcade) March 18, 2016 (Wii U) September 22, 2017 (Switch)
|release_date_au=March 19, 2016 (Wii U) September 22, 2017 (Switch)
|release_date_eu=March 18, 2016 (Wii U) September 22, 2017 (Switch)
|release_date_na=September 24, 2015 (Arcade) March 18, 2016 (Wii U) September 22, 2017 (Switch)
|release_date_kr=N/A
|release_date_hk=September 22, 2017 (Switch)
|release_date_tw=December 1, 2017 (Switch)
|website_ja=[http://pokkentournament.jp/ Official website] [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/pokken_wiiU/ Pokémon.co.jp (Wii U)] [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/pokkenDX/ Pokémon.co.jp (Switch)]
|website_en=[http://www.pokkentournament.com/en-us/ Official website (Wii U)] [http://www.pokkentournament.com/dx/en-us/ Official website (Switch)] [https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokken-tournament/ Pokemon.com (Wii U)] [https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokken-tournament-dx/ Pokemon.com (Switch)] [https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/pokken-tournament-wii-u Nintendo.com (Wii U)] [https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/pokken-tournament-dx-switch Nintendo.com (Switch/US)] [https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Games/Nintendo-Switch/Pokken-Tournament-DX-1231536.html Nintendo.com (Switch/UK)]
}}
{{bulbanews|game}}
{{StrategyWiki}}

'''Pokkén Tournament''' (Japanese: '''ポッ拳 {{j|POKKÉN TOURNAMENT}}''' ''Pokkén: Pokkén Tournament'') is a Pokémon arcade fighting game heavily based on the ''{{wp|Tekken}}'' series gameplay style. {{wp|Bandai Namco Entertainment}}, the owners of the ''Tekken'' {{wp|intellectual property}}, developed the game under license from [[The Pokémon Company]], and are responsible for distributing arcade cabinets in Japan.

After a limited demo run at a few locations, the full game became widely available at various public arcades in Japan starting from July 16, 2015. On July 22, 2015, a {{wp|Dave & Buster's}} representative [https://www.reddit.com/r/DaveAndBusters/comments/3dmze3/iama_senior_vice_president_of_entertainment_game/ctbt3a9?context=3 stated on Reddit] that the arcade game would be tested at D&B locations, and [https://twitter.com/DaveandBusters/status/647107060732162048 became available at the Times Square Dave & Buster's] on September 24, 2015 for a limited time.

On August 21, 2015, a [[Wii U]] port of Pokkén Tournament was revealed. The Wii U port was released in Japan, North America, and Europe on March 18, 2016 and in Australia on March 19, 2016, and it features [[Cosplay Pikachu|Pikachu Libre]], {{p|Braixen}}, {{p|Garchomp}} and {{p|Mewtwo}} as playable characters. While the Wii U port works with regular Wii U controllers, the [[Pokkén Tournament Pro Pad]] accessory has also been released, as a special controller that is similar to the ''Pokkén Tournament'' arcade controller.

On June 6, 2017, an enhanced [[Nintendo Switch]] port of Pokkén Tournament, titled '''Pokkén Tournament DX''' (Japanese: '''ポッ拳 {{j|POKKÉN TOURNAMENT DX}}''' ''Pokkén: Pokkén Tournament DX'') was revealed. It was released in Japan, North America, Europe, Australia, Hong Kong on September 22, 2017 and Taiwan on December 1, 2017. A demo was released on the [[Nintendo eShop]] on August 24, 2017 that allowed players 15 battles in either Single Battle or Local Battle. Characters were limited to {{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Charizard}}, or {{p|Empoleon}} and the only Support Pokémon pairs were {{p|Snivy}}/{{p|Lapras}} and {{p|Reshiram}}/{{p|Cresselia}}. The arcade-like controller [[Pokkén Tournament DX Pro Pad]] has also been released for Switch.

==Blurb==
;Wii U
Command your Pokémon with intuitive controls! 
Battle with various Support Pokémon! 
An all-new Pokémon battle experience 
Earn the title of champion in Ferrum League! 
Compete with players around the world in Online Battle! 
Master your moves in Practice Mode! 
Two-Player local battle!
;Switch
EXPLOSIVE POKÉMON BATTLES! 
Choose your favorite fighter from 21 Battle Pokémon! 
Get help from Support Pokémon! 
Many ways to test your skills! 
Online 3-VS-3 Team Battles 
Aim for Ferrum League competition!

==Gameplay==
Taking place in [[Ferrum]], the game combines the gameplay of the ''{{wp|Tekken}}'' series with the playable Pokémon characters known as '''Battle Pokémon''' (Japanese: '''バトルポケモン''').

===Battles===
Pokkén Tournament is a {{wp|fighting game}} that takes elements from both traditional 2D and 3D fighters. Battles have two different phases which will often change during battle. Battles begin in '''Field Phase''' (Japanese: '''フィールドフェイズ'''), where players can move about freely in a circular 3D environment in a 3D battlefield. If either player lands a certain type of move, a '''Phase Change''' (Japanese: '''フェイズチェンジ''') occurs, putting the battle into '''Duel Phase''' (Japanese: '''デュエルフェイズ'''), placing players into a 2D battlefield. Controls also change in this form of play.

Every Battle Pokémon in this game sports different HP values, which have similar function to the [[core series]] games. Battle Pokémon have three kinds of attacks collectively known as the '''Attack Triangle''' (Japanese: '''３すくみ'''): '''Normal Attacks''' (Japanese: '''通常攻撃'''), '''Grab Attacks''' (Japanese: '''つかみ攻撃'''), and '''Counter Attacks''' (Japanese: '''ブロック攻撃'''), with each of them relating to each other like {{wp|rock-paper-scissors}}. Battle Pokémon also have unique properties in Duel Phase known as '''Stance''' (Japanese: '''構え'''), which gives Pokémon access to different control of their attacks or variety of effects when changing their posture slightly.

Each Battle Pokémon also have a gauge that fills up as the battle progresses called the '''Synergy Gauge''' (Japanese: '''共鳴ゲージ'''), which allows them to activate '''Synergy Burst''' (Japanese: '''共鳴バースト''') when it is full. When Synergy Burst is active, the Pokémon's attributes are greatly powered up. Synergy Burst raises their attack and defense temporarily and regenerates their HP slightly. A Battle Pokémon that has a [[Mega Evolution]] form will also Mega Evolve. While Synergy Burst is active, Pokémon can use their own '''Burst Attack''' (Japanese: '''バーストアタック'''). Burst Attack is a powerful attack that can only be used once during Synergy Burst.

Players also have to bring a '''Support Pokémon''' (Japanese: '''サポートポケモン''') set and choose a '''Cheer Skill''' (Japanese: '''応援スキル''') before the battle begins. A Support Pokémon set contains two Pokémon that either support allies or disrupt opponents, and one of these two may be brought into battle each round. Support Pokémon that inflict damage are unable to knock out a Pokémon, leaving it with 1 HP. Support Pokémon can be only summoned when the '''Support Gauge''' (Japanese: '''サポートゲージ''') is full as the battle progresses. Cheer Skills are additional aides that activate between rounds and can be only activated once. Cheer Skills focus only on Synergy Gauge and Support Gauge.

Players may be able to raise their Battle Pokémon's '''Skill Level''' or '''SLv.''' (Japanese: '''スキルレベル'''), as well as '''Skill Points''' (Japanese: '''スキルポイント'''), which include '''Attack''' (Japanese: '''攻撃'''), '''Defense''' (Japanese: '''防御'''), '''Synergy''' (Japanese: '''共鳴'''), and '''Strategy''' (Japanese: '''戦略'''). The Attack and Defense skills work similarly to the core series games, but they affect Pokémon's stats slightly. Synergy boosts Pokémon's Attack and Defense during Synergy Burst and makes the duration of Synergy Burst longer. Strategy boosts the damage inflicted by Support Pokémon and shortens the charge time of Support Pokémon. Both positive and negative statuses can affect these stats in the battle under the specific effect, but they last a short period of time and can have up to two applied to a Battle Pokémon at once.

There are three types of battle rules:
*'''Basic Battle''' (Japanese: '''ベーシックバトル''') - A classic fighting-style battle in three rounds. The player that knocks out opponent's Pokémon in two rounds first is the winner.
*'''Extra Battle''' (Japanese: '''エクストラバトル''') - A three-round battle (just like Basic Battle) that includes collectible orbs that spawn on the stage that could either boost or hinder Pokémon's stats and abilities. The player that knocks out opponent's Pokémon in two rounds first is the winner.
*'''Team Battle''' (Japanese: '''チームバトル''') - A battle exclusively in Pokkén Tournament DX, where each player chooses three different Pokémon and fights to see which team will be the last one standing. Similar to the [[core series]] games, the player sends out one of their remaining Pokémon when their Pokémon is defeated in a round. At the end of the round, the HP and Synergy Gauge of the winning Pokémon carries over. The winner is the player's team that knocks out all three opponent's Pokémon first.

===Modes===
*Practice - In Techne City, players can participate in a tutorial on how to play the game and play practice battles using any rules. Players can also access the Action Dojo and the Combo Dojo.
*Single Battle - Tellur Town is the home of single battles. Once the CPU's Pokémon and level are set, battle begins.
*Local Battle - Selen Island is where two players playing on the same system go to battle.
*Online Battle - Neos City is the portal to battle on the Internet. Players may also check out the global rankings here.
*Ferrum League - Players battle here to become the Ferrum League Champion. There are four different levels of league play that players can participate in; each league consists of league matches to find the top 8 in the league. Those eight face off in an elimination bracket to determine the league champion. This is a single-player mode.
*My Town - Old Ferrum Town is the player's hometown and is where players can change settings such as their character profile and avatar, Battle Pokémon, and Support Pokémon set. Players can also see their battle record in this area.

===Ferrum League===
The Ferrum League is the place where trainers go to try to become the Champion. The goal is to get into the top eight trainers, as which point players may vie for the championship. There are four modes of play here:
*League Match - Initially the only mode available, this is where players begin their journey to the top of the league by battling other league participants in a set of five matches. When five matches are completed, players are assigned a new rank based on their performance and returned to the Ferrum League menu.
*Tournament - When players make it into the top eight, they are allowed to enter the bracketed tournament where the winner becomes Ferrum League Champion. (Locked until a player is in the Top 8.)
*Promotion Test - Once a player is Champion of a division in the Ferrum League, it's possible to participate in a battle against the League Master. Winning this battle gains access to the next league. (Locked until the player becomes Champion of its respective League.)
*Free Battle - Players may battle in matches against league participants. Battles are against a random member of the respective League.
*Mission Panels - In Pokkén Tournament DX, there is a new mission panel board for its respective League. Rewards such as galleries and avatar items can be obtained by unlocking the requirements.

===Official Group Matches===
[[The Pokémon Company]] will set up Group Matches that offer unique titles to participants. Only matches taking place between 11:00 am and 3:00 am UTC count towards placements. All players who complete a match receive a participation reward, while players who place within the top 100 of the group also receive a title based on their placement:

* 1st - 10th: Chroma League Master
* 11th - 30th: Red League Master
* 31st - 60th: Blue League Master
* 61st - 100th: Green League Master

Those who have already obtained a Group Match's participation title and qualify for it again in a rerun will receive 10,000 Poké Gold instead.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{gold color light}}; border:3px solid #{{blue color}}"
! style="background: #{{steel color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Name
! style="background: #{{steel color light}}" | Dates
! style="background: #{{steel color light}}" | Format
! style="background: #{{steel color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Participation Titles
|- style="background:#FFF"
|rowspan='2'| FSBC Aura Blast Cup
| November 17 - 20, 2017
| Basic Battle
|rowspan='2'| Aura Blast
|- style="background:#FFF"
| October 19 - 21, 2018
| Team Battle
|- style="background:#FFF"
|rowspan='2'| FSBC Shining Feather Cup
| November 24 - 27, 2017
| Team Battle
|rowspan='2'| Shining Feather
|- style="background:#FFF"
| November 2 - 4, 2018
| Basic Battle
|- style="background:#FFF"
|rowspan='2'| FSBC Iron Meteor Dive Cup
| December 8 - 11, 2017
| Basic Battle
|rowspan='2'| Iron Meteor Dive
|- style="background:#FFF"
| November 16 - 18, 2018
| Team Battle
|- style="background:#FFF"
|rowspan='2'| FSBC Thunderclap Press Cup
| December 22 - 31, 2017
| Team Battle
|rowspan='2'| Thunderclap Press
|- style="background:#FFF"
| December 7 - 9, 2018
| Basic Battle
|- style="background:#FFF"
|rowspan='2'| FSBC Volt Shock Fist Cup
| January 1 - 8, 2018 April 25 - May 3, 2018
| Basic Battle
|rowspan='2'| Volt Shock Fist
|- style="background:#FFF"
| December 21, 2018 - January 3, 2019
| Team Battle
|- style="background:#FFF"
|rowspan='2'| FSBC Dynamic Fury Cup
| January 19 - 21, 2018
| Team Battle
|rowspan='2'| Dynamic Fury
|- style="background:#FFF"
| January 4 - 6, 2019
| Basic Battle
|- style="background:#FFF"
|rowspan='2'| FSBC Psyfirecracker Cup
| February 9 - 12, 2018
| Basic Battle
|rowspan='2'| Psyfirecracker
|- style="background:#FFF"
| January 18 - 20, 2019
| Team Battle
|- style="background:#FFF"
|rowspan='2'| FSBC Underworld Ruler Cup
| February 23 - 25, 2018
| Team Battle
|rowspan='2'| Underworld Ruler
|- style="background:#FFF"
| February 8 - 10, 2019
| Basic Battle
|- style="background:#FFF"
|rowspan='2'| FSBC Forest's Flash Cup
| March 9 - 11, 2018
| Basic Battle
|rowspan='2'| Forest's Flash
|- style="background:#FFF"
| February 22 - 24, 2019
| Team Battle
|- style="background:#FFF"
|rowspan='2'| FSBC Destructive Cannon Cup
| March 23 - 25, 2018
| Team Battle
|rowspan='2'| Destructive Cannon
|- style="background:#FFF"
| March 8 - 10, 2019
| Basic Battle
|- style="background:#FFF"
|rowspan='2'| FSBC Searing Blaze Cup
| April 6 - 8, 2018
| Basic Battle
|rowspan='2'| Searing Blaze
|- style="background:#FFF"
| March 22 - 24, 2019
| Team Battle
|- style="background:#FFF"
|rowspan='2'| FSBC Outrage Smasher Cup
| April 20 - 22, 2018
| Team Battle
|rowspan='2'| Outrage Smasher
|- style="background:#FFF"
| April 5 - 7, 2019
| Basic Battle
|- style="background:#FFF"
|rowspan='2'| FSBC Sonic Slash Cup
| May 4 - 6, 2018
| Basic Battle
|rowspan='2'| Sonic Slash
|- style="background:#FFF"
| April 19 - 21, 2019
| Team Battle
|- style="background:#FFF"
|rowspan='2'| FSBC Infinite Eclipse Cup
| May 18 - 20, 2018
| Team Battle
|rowspan='2'| Infinite Eclipse
|- style="background:#FFF"
| May 3 - 5, 2019
| Basic Battle
|- style="background:#FFF"
|rowspan='2'| FSBC True Sheer Cold Cup
| June 1 - 3, 2018
| Basic Battle
|rowspan='2'| True Sheer Cold
|- style="background:#FFF"
| May 17 - 19, 2019
| Team Battle
|- style="background:#FFF"
|rowspan='2'| FSBC Alter Ego Army Cup
| June 15 - 17, 2018
| Team Battle
|rowspan='2'| Alter Ego Army
|- style="background:#FFF"
| June 7 - 9, 2019
| Basic Battle
|- style="background:#FFF"
|rowspan='2'| FSBC Final Flicker Cup
| July 6 - 8, 2018
| Basic Battle
|rowspan='2'| Final Flicker
|- style="background:#FFF"
| June 21 - 23, 2019
| Team Battle
|- style="background:#FFF"
|rowspan='2'| FSBC Gatling Flame Kicks Cup
| July 20 - 22, 2018
| Team Battle
|rowspan='2'| Gatling Flame Kicks
|- style="background:#FFF"
| July 12 - 14, 2019
| Basic Battle
|- style="background:#FFF"
|rowspan='2'| FSBC Deep Blue Monarch Cup
| August 3 - 5, 2018
| Basic Battle
|rowspan='2'| Deep Blue Monarch
|- style="background:#FFF"
| July 26 - 28, 2019
| Team Battle
|- style="background:#FFF"
|rowspan='2'| FSBC Psydisaster Cup
| August 12 - 19, 2018
| Team Battle
|rowspan='2'| Psydisaster
|- style="background:#FFF"
| August 9 - 18, 2019
| Basic Battle
|- style="background:#FFF"
|rowspan='2'| FSBC Shadow Drop Cup
| September 7 - 9, 2018
| Basic Battle
|rowspan='2'| Shadow Drop
|- style="background:#FFF"
| August 23 - 25, 2019
| Team Battle
|- style="background:#FFF"
|rowspan='2'| FSBC Fairy Tempest Cup
| September 21 - 23, 2018
| Team Battle
|rowspan='2'| Fairy Tempest
|- style="background:#FFF"
| September 6 - 8, 2019
| Basic Battle
|- style="background:#FFF"
|rowspan='2'| FSBC Dark Nova Cup
| October 5 - 7, 2018
| Basic Battle
|rowspan='2'| Dark Nova
|- style="background:#FFF"
| September 20 - 22, 2019
| Team Battle
|-
| style="background: #{{steel color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" colspan="5" |
|}

==Plot==
{{spoilers}}
In the Ferrum region, where competitions known as Ferrum Battles are held, the player takes control of a character who aims to rise to the top of the Ferrum League. After creating the avatar, the player meets [[Nia]], their guide to the Ferrum League. With their partner Pokémon, the player enters the first rank of the Ferrum League and battles their way to the Promotion Test, which allows entry into the next rank. However, the player is ambushed by a mysterious young woman with a strange black {{p|Mewtwo}}, whom they are forced to fight.

Regardless of the outcome of the fight against the black Mewtwo, the player progresses to the next rank. The black Mewtwo and mysterious woman appear again and challenge the player once more. As the player continues to rise in the Ferrum League, other competitors begin gossiping about the Mewtwo—now dubbed [[Shadow Mewtwo]]—and a strange phenomenon in which Gaia, the energy that allows [[Synergy Stone]]s to bond the humans and Pokémon in Ferrum, appears to be draining away.

After the player clears the third rank, the Ferrum League is put on hold as a result of the draining of Gaia energy. The mysterious woman introduces herself as {{ga|Anne}} and explains the events that are occurring. Shadow Mewtwo is a normal Mewtwo, corrupted by the Shadow Synergy Stone embedded in its shoulder; when Anne was a child, the Shadow Synergy Stone endangered her, and to protect her from its influence, Mewtwo sacrificed itself to take her place. Mewtwo is now being consumed by the Shadow Synergy Stone, which is forcing it to fight opponents throughout Ferrum to gain greater power. The Shadow Synergy Stone's power is causing Gaia energy to drain as well. Anne hopes to save Mewtwo by purifying the Shadow Synergy Stone using a special brooch containing a Synergy Stone, separating the two so Mewtwo can return to a peaceful existence while Anne returns the purified stone to her people. Anne guides the player and Nia to the [[Regi Ruins]], where she introduces [[Walter]], the elder of her people, who reveals that the brooch is currently lacking the power to purify the Shadow Synergy Stone. This can be repaired by the brooch being exposed to the Synergy Power of high-level battles, so Walter challenges the player, then directs them to fight three others scattered throughout the region. However, after the second fight of the three, Anne realizes time has run out and Shadow Mewtwo must be dealt with immediately.

With support from Nia and Anne, the player ventures deep into the woods of northern Ferrum, where Shadow Mewtwo's hideout is finally located. Though unable to use Synergy Burst due to the severe drainage of Gaia, the player engages in a final battle with Shadow Mewtwo. The Shadow Synergy Stone's power fluctuates throughout the fight, forcing a 1-1 tie between the player and Shadow Mewtwo. For the final round, Anne's prayers manage to focus enough Gaia to allow the player to use a permanent Synergy Burst. Once defeated, Shadow Mewtwo collapses and the Shadow Synergy Stone begins overloading, but Anne's brooch overwhelms and finally purifies it. The stone separates from Shadow Mewtwo, returning it to its normal form. Though saddened by the fact that the brooch broke during use, Anne expresses gratitude for the player saving Mewtwo, whom she asks the player to take care of — unlocking Mewtwo as a playable character — while she returns the purified Shadow Synergy Stone to the safety of her people's care.

With the disaster averted and Gaia restored, the Ferrum League reopens, allowing the player to resume their quest to reach the top by winning the Chroma League. Once the player accomplishes the championship, Shadow Mewtwo is unlocked as a playable character from that point forward. Additionally, a secret Ferrum League rank—the Iron League—becomes accessible, and the player may freely replay a number of the Shadow Mewtwo story events.

==Pokémon==
===Battle Pokémon===
;All versions
{| style="width:auto; text-align:center"
|-
! class=roundytl height=100px width=100px style="background:#{{fire color}}; border:2px solid #{{flying color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Charizard.png|x90px]]
| rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{fire color}}; border:2px solid #{{dragon color dark}}" | '''Battle Type''': Power '''HP''': 600 '''Moves''': {{mcolor|Flamethrower|000}}, {{mcolor|Fire Punch|000}}, {{mcolor|Inferno|000}}, {{mcolor|Flare Blitz|000}}, {{mcolor|Seismic Toss|000}}, {{mcolor|Air Slash|000}}, {{mcolor|Dragon Claw|000}} '''Burst Attack''': '''Searing Blaze''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|煉獄|れんごく}}ブレイズ''' ''Purgatory Blaze'') {{sw|Pokkén Tournament/Charizard|Details on StrategyWiki}}
|-
! class=roundybl style="background:#{{fire color}}; border:2px solid #{{flying color dark}}" | {{color2|000|Charizard (Pokkén Tournament)|Charizard}}
|-
! class=roundytl style="background:#{{electric color}}; border:2px solid #{{electric color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Pikachu.png|x90px]]
| rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{electric color}}; border:2px solid #{{electric color dark}}" | '''Battle Type''': Standard '''HP''': 570 '''Moves''': {{mcolor|Thunderbolt|000}}, {{mcolor|Nuzzle|000}}, {{mcolor|Electro Ball|000}}, {{mcolor|Thunder|000}}, {{mcolor|Volt Tackle|000}}, {{mcolor|Iron Tail|000}} '''Burst Attack''': '''Volt Shock Fist''' (Japanese: '''ボルテッ{{tt|拳|けん}}''' ''Voltekken'') {{sw|Pokkén Tournament/Pikachu|Details on StrategyWiki}}
|-
! class=roundybl style="background:#{{electric color}}; border:2px solid #{{electric color dark}}" | {{color2|000|Pikachu (Pokkén Tournament)|Pikachu}}
|-
! class=roundytl style="background:#{{electric color}}; border:2px solid #{{tough color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Pikachu Libre.png|x90px]]
| rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{electric color}}; border:2px solid #{{tough color dark}}" | '''Battle Type''': Speed '''HP''': 570 '''Moves''': {{mcolor|Double Team|000}}, {{mcolor|Quick Attack|000}}, {{mcolor|Discharge|000}}, {{mcolor|Electroweb|000}}, {{mcolor|Spark|000}}, {{mcolor|Flying Press|000}}, {{mcolor|Wild Charge|000}} '''Burst Attack''': '''Thunderclap Press''' (Japanese: '''フライング{{tt|雷迅|らいじん}}プレス''' ''Flying Thunderclap Press'') {{sw|Pokkén Tournament/Pikachu Libre|Details on StrategyWiki}}
|-
! class=roundybl style="background:#{{electric color}}; border:2px solid #{{tough color dark}}" | {{color2|000|Pikachu Libre (Pokkén Tournament)|Pikachu Libre}}
|-
! class=roundytl style="background:#{{fighting color}}; border:2px solid #{{fighting color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Machamp.png|x90px]]
| rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{fighting color}}; border:2px solid #{{fighting color dark}}" | '''Battle Type''': Power '''HP''': 660 '''Moves''': {{mcolor|Bulk Up|000}}, {{mcolor|Submission|000}}, {{mcolor|Karate Chop|000}}, {{mcolor|Wake-Up Slap|000}}, {{mcolor|Scary Face|000}}, {{mcolor|Heavy Slam|000}}, {{mcolor|Close Combat|000}}, {{mcolor|Cross Chop|000}} '''Burst Attack''': '''Dynamic Fury''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|爆裂|ばくれつ}}ラッシュ''' ''Dynamite Rush'') {{sw|Pokkén Tournament/Machamp|Details on StrategyWiki}}
|-
! class=roundybl style="background:#{{fighting color}}; border:2px solid #{{fighting color dark}}" | {{color2|000|Machamp (Pokkén Tournament)|Machamp}}
|-
! class=roundytl style="background:#{{ghost color}}; border:2px solid #{{poison color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Gengar.png|x90px]]
| rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{ghost color}}; border:2px solid #{{poison color dark}}" | '''Battle Type''': Technical '''HP''': 510 '''Moves''': {{mcolor|Shadow Ball|000}}, {{mcolor|Hypnosis|000}}, {{mcolor|Shadow Punch|000}}, {{mcolor|Sludge Bomb|000}}, {{mcolor|Astonish|000}}, {{mcolor|Curse|000}} '''Burst Attack''': '''Shadow Drop''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|奈落落とし|ならくおとし}}''' ''Drag into Hell'') {{sw|Pokkén Tournament/Gengar|Details on StrategyWiki}}
|-
! class=roundybl style="background:#{{ghost color}}; border:2px solid #{{poison color dark}}" | {{color2|000|Gengar (Pokkén Tournament)|Gengar}}
|-
! class=roundytl style="background:#{{psychic color}}; border:2px solid #{{psychic color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Mewtwo.png|x90px]]
| rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{psychic color}}; border:2px solid #{{fighting color dark}}" | '''Battle Type''': Standard '''HP''': 600 '''Moves''': {{mcolor|Psycho Cut|000}}, {{mcolor|Hyper Beam|000}}, {{mcolor|Teleport|000}}, {{mcolor|Barrier|000}}, {{mcolor|Confusion|000}}, {{mcolor|Telekinesis|000}} {{mcolor|Drain Punch|000}}, {{mcolor|Focus Blast|000}}, {{mcolor|Psystrike|000}}, {{mcolor|Fire Punch|000}}, {{mcolor|Ice Punch|000}}, {{mcolor|Thunder Punch|000}} '''Burst Attack''': '''Psydisaster''' (Japanese: '''サイコディザスター''' ''Psycho Disaster'') {{sw|Pokkén Tournament/Mewtwo|Details on StrategyWiki}}
|-
! class=roundybl style="background:#{{psychic color}}; border:2px solid #{{psychic color dark}}" | {{color2|000|Mewtwo (Pokkén Tournament)|Mewtwo}}
|-
! class=roundytl style="background:#{{psychic color dark}}; border:2px solid #{{psychic color light}}" | [[File:Pokkén Shadow Mewtwo.png|x90px]]
| rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{psychic color dark}}; border:2px solid #{{fighting color light}}" | '''Battle Type''': Technical '''HP''': 480 '''Moves''': {{mcolor|Psywave|000}}, {{mcolor|Teleport|000}}, {{mcolor|Zen Headbutt|000}}, {{mcolor|Miracle Eye|000}}, {{mcolor|Recover|000}}, {{mcolor|Reflect|000}}, {{mcolor|Flamethrower|000}}, {{mcolor|Thunder|000}}, {{mcolor|Earthquake|000}}, {{mcolor|Psystrike|000}} '''Burst Attack''': '''Dark Nova''' (Japanese: '''ダークエンドノヴァ''' ''Dark End Nova'') {{sw|Pokkén Tournament/Shadow Mewtwo|Details on StrategyWiki}}
|-
! class=roundybl style="background:#{{psychic color dark}}; border:2px solid #{{psychic color light}}" | {{color2|000|Shadow Mewtwo}}
|-
! class=roundytl style="background:#{{water color}}; border:2px solid #{{water color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Suicune.png|x90px]]
| rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{water color}}; border:2px solid #{{water color dark}}" | '''Battle Type''': Standard '''HP''': 630 '''Moves''': {{mcolor|Aurora Beam|000}}, {{mcolor|Icy Wind|000}}, {{mcolor|Hydro Pump|000}}, {{mcolor|Mirror Coat|000}}, {{mcolor|Blizzard|000}}, {{mcolor|Hail|000}} '''Burst Attack''': '''True Sheer Cold''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|超・絶対零度|ちょう・ぜったいれいど}}''' ''Super Sheer Cold'') {{sw|Pokkén Tournament/Suicune|Details on StrategyWiki}}
|-
! class=roundybl style="background:#{{water color}}; border:2px solid #{{water color dark}}" | {{color2|000|Suicune (Pokkén Tournament)|Suicune}}
|-
| class=roundytl style="background:#{{grass color}}; border:2px solid #{{grass color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Sceptile.png|x90px]]
| rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{grass color}}; border:2px solid #{{dragon color dark}}" | '''Battle Type''': Speed '''HP''': 570 '''Moves''': {{mcolor|Bullet Seed|000}}, {{mcolor|Leaf Blade|000}}, {{mcolor|Dragon Breath|000}}, {{mcolor|Detect|000}}, {{mcolor|Leech Seed|000}}, {{mcolor|Leaf Storm|000}}, {{mcolor|Giga Drain|000}} '''Burst Attack''': '''Forest's Flash''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|夢想・樹海新生|むそう・じゅかいしんせい}}''' ''Unrivaled Forest Rebirth'') {{sw|Pokkén Tournament/Sceptile|Details on StrategyWiki}}
|-
! class=roundybl style="background:#{{grass color}}; border:2px solid #{{grass color dark}}" | {{color2|000|Sceptile (Pokkén Tournament)|Sceptile}}
|-
| class=roundytl style="background:#{{fire color}}; border:2px solid #{{fighting color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Blaziken.png|x90px]]
| rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{fire color}}; border:2px solid #{{fighting color dark}}" | '''Battle Type''': Standard '''HP''': 600 '''Moves''': {{mcolor|Heat Wave|000}}, {{mcolor|Blaze Kick|000}}, {{mcolor|Flare Blitz|000}}, {{mcolor|Brave Bird|000}}, {{mcolor|High Jump Kick|000}}, {{mcolor|Sky Uppercut|000}} '''Burst Attack''': '''Gatling Flame Kicks''' (Japanese: '''バーニング{{tt|閃烈脚|せんれつきゃく}}''' ''Burning Flash Kick'') {{sw|Pokkén Tournament/Blaziken|Details on StrategyWiki}}
|-
! class=roundybl style="background:#{{fire color}}; border:2px solid #{{fighting color dark}}" | {{color2|000|Blaziken (Pokkén Tournament)|Blaziken}}
|-
| class=roundytl style="background:#{{psychic color}}; border:2px solid #{{fairy color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Gardevoir.png|x90px]]
| rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{psychic color}}; border:2px solid #{{fairy color dark}}" | '''Battle Type''': Technical '''HP''': 540 '''Moves''': {{mcolor|Psyshock|000}}, {{mcolor|Stored Power|000}}, {{mcolor|Calm Mind|000}}, {{mcolor|Dazzling Gleam|000}}, {{mcolor|Energy Ball|000}}, {{mcolor|Psychic|000}}, {{mcolor|Teleport|000}}, {{mcolor|Moonblast|000}}, {{mcolor|Magical Leaf|000}}, {{mcolor|Future Sight|000}} '''Burst Attack''': '''Fairy Tempest''' (Japanese: '''フェアリーテンペスト''' ''Fairy Tempest'') {{sw|Pokkén Tournament/Gardevoir|Details on StrategyWiki}}
|-
! class=roundybl style="background:#{{psychic color}}; border:2px solid #{{fairy color dark}}" | {{color2|000|Gardevoir (Pokkén Tournament)|Gardevoir}}
|-
| class=roundytl style="background:#{{dragon color}}; border:2px solid #{{ground color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Garchomp.png|x90px]]
| rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{dragon color}}; border:2px solid #{{ground color dark}}" | '''Battle Type''': Power '''HP''': 660 '''Moves''': {{mcolor|Dragon Claw|000}}, {{mcolor|Dig|000}}, {{mcolor|Stone Edge|000}}, {{mcolor|Earthquake|000}}, {{mcolor|Dragon Rush|000}}, {{mcolor|Sand Tomb|000}} '''Burst Attack''': '''Outrage Smasher''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|大逆鱗|だいげきりん}}クラッシュ''' ''Great Outrage Crash'') {{sw|Pokkén Tournament/Garchomp|Details on StrategyWiki}}
|-
! class=roundybl style="background:#{{dragon color}}; border:2px solid #{{ground color dark}}" | {{color2|000|Garchomp (Pokkén Tournament)|Garchomp}}
|-
| class=roundytl style="background:#{{fighting color}}; border:2px solid #{{steel color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Lucario.png|x90px]]
| rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{fighting color}}; border:2px solid #{{steel color dark}}" | '''Battle Type''': Standard '''HP''': 600 '''Moves''': {{mcolor|Aura Sphere|000}}, {{mcolor|Bone Rush|000}}, {{mcolor|Force Palm|000}}, {{mcolor|Extreme Speed|000}} '''Burst Attack''': '''Aura Blast''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|波動|はどう}}ブラスト''' ''Aura Blast'') {{sw|Pokkén Tournament/Lucario|Details on StrategyWiki}}
|-
! class=roundybl style="background:#{{fighting color}}; border:2px solid #{{steel color dark}}" | {{color2|000|Lucario (Pokkén Tournament)|Lucario}}
|-
| class=roundytl style="background:#{{dark color}}; border:2px solid #{{ice color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Weavile.png|x90px]]
| rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{dark color}}; border:2px solid #{{ice color dark}}" | '''Battle Type''': Speed '''HP''': 540 '''Moves''': {{mcolor|Agility|000}}, {{mcolor|Fury Swipes|000}}, {{mcolor|Fake Out|000}}, {{mcolor|Knock Off|000}}, {{mcolor|Night Slash|000}}, {{mcolor|Icicle Crash|000}}, {{mcolor|Ice Punch|000}}, {{mcolor|Taunt|000}} '''Burst Attack''': '''Sonic Slash''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|無影|むよう}}スラッシュ''' ''Shadowless Slash'') {{sw|Pokkén Tournament/Weavile|Details on StrategyWiki}}
|-
! class=roundybl style="background:#{{dark color}}; border:2px solid #{{ice color dark}}" | {{color2|000|Weavile (Pokkén Tournament)|Weavile}}
|-
| class=roundytl style="background:#{{ghost color}}; border:2px solid #{{fire color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Chandelure.png|x90px]]
| rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{ghost color}}; border:2px solid #{{fire color dark}}" | '''Battle Type''': Power '''HP''': 510 '''Moves''': {{mcolor|Will-O-Wisp|000}}, {{mcolor|Smog|000}}, {{mcolor|Flame Burst|000}}, {{mcolor|Incinerate|000}}, {{mcolor|Minimize|000}}, {{mcolor|Overheat|000}}, {{mcolor|Hex|000}} '''Burst Attack''': '''Final Flicker''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|最期の一灯|さいごのいちとう}}''' ''Flicker of Death'') {{sw|Pokkén Tournament/Chandelure|Details on StrategyWiki}}
|-
! class=roundybl style="background:#{{ghost color}}; border:2px solid #{{fire color dark}}" | {{color2|000|Chandelure (Pokkén Tournament)|Chandelure}}
|-
| class=roundytl style="background:#{{fire color}}; border:2px solid #{{fire color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Braixen.png|x90px]]
| rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{fire color}}; border:2px solid #{{fire color dark}}" | '''Battle Type''': Standard '''HP''': 540 '''Moves''': {{mcolor|Psybeam|000}}, {{mcolor|Fire Spin|000}}, {{mcolor|Fire Blast|000}}, {{mcolor|Sunny Day|000}}, {{mcolor|Flame Charge|000}}, {{mcolor|Flamethrower|000}}, {{mcolor|Light Screen|000}} '''Burst Attack''': '''Psyfirecracker''' (Japanese: '''マジカルファイアータクト''' ''Magical Fire Tact'') {{sw|Pokkén Tournament/Braixen|Details on StrategyWiki}}
|-
! class=roundybl style="background:#{{fire color}}; border:2px solid #{{fire color dark}}" | {{color2|000|Braixen (Pokkén Tournament)|Braixen}}
|}

The only two unlockable fighters (in the Wii U version) are {{p|Mewtwo}} and [[Shadow Mewtwo]]. Mewtwo is unlocked by clearing the Red League and defeating Shadow Mewtwo. Shadow Mewtwo can be temporarily unlocked by using the Shadow Mewtwo amiibo card each time the game is started, or permanently unlocked by clearing the Chroma League.

Additionally, the CPU version of Shadow Mewtwo has notable differences compared to the playable ones. At the start of the battle, this Shadow Mewtwo will retain its powered-up form that resembles {{me|Mewtwo}} X. It also has a few attacks such as Mewtwo's {{m|Fire Punch}}, {{m|Thunder Punch}}, and {{m|Ice Punch}} combo attacks and {{p|Suicune}}'s {{m|Blizzard}}.

Garchomp, Braixen and Mewtwo were originally exclusive to the Wii U version, but later added to the arcade version on July 20, 2016.

;Arcade and Switch-only
{| style="width:auto; text-align:center"
|-
| class=roundytl height=100px width=100px style="background:#{{dark color}}; border: 2px solid #{{dark color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Darkrai.png|x90px]]
| rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{dark color}}; border: 2px solid #{{dark color dark}}" | '''Battle Type''': Technical '''HP''': 540 '''Moves''': {{mcolor|Dark Pulse|000}}, {{mcolor|Dark Void|000}}, {{mcolor|Nasty Plot|000}}, {{mcolor|Shadow Claw|000}}, {{mcolor|Nightmare|000}}, {{mcolor|Dream Eater|000}} '''Burst Attack''': '''Infinite Eclipse''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|無限|むげん}}エクリプス''' ''Infinite Eclipse'') {{sw|Pokkén Tournament/Darkrai|Details on StrategyWiki}}
|-
! class=roundybl style="background:#{{dark color}}; border:2px solid #{{dark color dark}}" | {{color2|000|Darkrai (Pokkén Tournament)|Darkrai}}
|-
| class=roundytl style="background:#{{bug color}}; border:2px solid #{{steel color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Scizor.png|x90px]]
| rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{bug color}}; border:2px solid #{{steel color dark}}" | '''Battle Type''': Power '''HP''': 600 '''Moves''': {{mcolor|Swords Dance|000}}, {{mcolor|Metal Claw|000}}, {{mcolor|U-turn|000}}, {{mcolor|Aerial Ace|000}}, {{mcolor|Bullet Punch|000}}, {{mcolor|X-Scissor|000}}, {{mcolor|Bug Bite|000}} '''Burst Attack''': '''Iron Meteor Drive''' (Japanese: '''オーロラメテオダイブ''' ''Aurora Meteor Dive'') {{sw|Pokkén Tournament/Scizor|Details on StrategyWiki}}
|-
! class=roundybl style="background:#{{bug color}}; border:2px solid #{{steel color dark}}" | {{pcolor|Scizor|000}}
|-
| class=roundytl style="background:#{{poison color}}; border:2px solid #{{fighting color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Croagunk.png|x90px]]
| rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{poison color}}; border:2px solid #{{fighting color dark}}" | '''Battle Type''': Speed '''HP''': 540 '''Moves''': {{mcolor|Poison Sting|000}}, {{mcolor|Poison Jab|000}}, {{mcolor|Thief|000}}, {{mcolor|Acupressure|000}}, {{mcolor|Gunk Shot|000}}, {{mcolor|Foul Play|000}}, {{mcolor|Venoshock|000}} '''Burst Attack''': '''Alter Ego Army''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|極楽影分身|ごくらくかげぶんしん}}''' ''Double Team Parade'') {{sw|Pokkén Tournament/Croagunk|Details on StrategyWiki}}
|-
! class=roundybl style="background:#{{poison color}}; border:2px solid #{{fighting color dark}}" | {{pcolor|Croagunk|000}}
|-
| class=roundytl style="background:#{{water color}}; border: 2px solid #{{steel color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Empoleon.png|x90px]]
| rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{water color}}; border: 2px solid #{{steel color dark}}" | '''Battle Type''': Standard '''HP''': 630 '''Moves''': {{mcolor|Aqua Jet|000}}, {{mcolor|Ice Beam|000}}, {{mcolor|Defog|000}}, {{mcolor|Steel Wing|000}}, {{mcolor|Drill Peck|000}}, {{mcolor|Cut|000}}, {{mcolor|Waterfall|000}}, {{mcolor|Rock Smash|000}}, {{mcolor|Surf|000}}, {{mcolor|Hydro Cannon|000}} '''Burst Attack''': '''Deep Blue Monarch''' (Japanese: '''ディープブルーカイザー''' ''Deep Blue Kaiser'') {{sw|Pokkén Tournament/Empoleon|Details on StrategyWiki}}
|-
! class=roundybl style="background:#{{water color}}; border: 2px solid #{{steel color dark}}" | {{pcolor|Empoleon|000}}
|}{{left clear}}

The arcade version has received a number of exclusive characters through updates:
* {{p|Darkrai}} was released on July 20, 2016
* {{p|Scizor}} was released on October 20, 2016
* {{p|Croagunk}} was released on November 10, 2016
* {{p|Empoleon}} was released on December 15, 2016

;Switch-only
{| style="width:auto; text-align:center"
|-
| class=roundytl height=100px width=100px style="background:#{{grass color}}; border:2px solid #{{ghost color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Decidueye.png|x90px]]
| rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{grass color}}; border:2px solid #{{ghost color dark}}" | '''Battle Type''': Standard '''HP''': 570 '''Moves''': {{mcolor|Spirit Shackle|000}}, {{mcolor|Fury Attack|000}}, {{mcolor|Razor Leaf|000}}, {{mcolor|Leaf Blade|000}}, {{mcolor|Frenzy Plant|000}}, {{mcolor|Feather Dance|000}}, {{mcolor|Sucker Punch|000}}, {{mcolor|Smack Down|000}}, {{mcolor|Acrobatics|000}} '''Burst Attack''': '''Shining Feather''' (Japanese: '''シャイニングフェザー''' ''Shining Feather'') {{sw|Pokkén Tournament/Decidueye|Details on StrategyWiki}}
|-
! class=roundybl style="background:#{{grass color}}; border:2px solid #{{ghost color dark}}" | {{pcolor|Decidueye|000}}
|-
| class=roundytl height=100px width=100px style="background:#{{steel color}}; border:2px solid #{{ghost color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Aegislash.png|x90px]]
| rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{steel color}}; border:2px solid #{{ghost color dark}}" | '''Battle Type''': Technical '''HP''': 510 '''Moves''': {{mcolor|Fury Cutter|000}}, {{mcolor|Iron Head|000}}, {{mcolor|King's Shield|000}}, {{mcolor|Gyro Ball|000}}, {{mcolor|Shadow Sneak|000}}, {{mcolor|Flash Cannon|000}}, {{mcolor|Sacred Sword|000}} '''Burst Attack''': '''Underworld Ruler''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|冥界覇王斬|めいかいはおうざん}}''' ''Underworld Conqueror Slash'') {{sw|Pokkén Tournament/Aegislash|Details on StrategyWiki}}
|-
! class=roundybl style="background:#{{steel color}}; border:2px solid #{{ghost color dark}}" | {{pcolor|Aegislash|000}}
|-
| class=roundytl height=100px width=100px style="background:#{{water color}}; border:2px solid #{{water color dark}}" | [[File:Blastoise Pokkén.png|x90px]]
| rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{water color}}; border:2px solid #{{water color dark}}" | '''Battle Type''': Power '''HP''': 660 '''Moves''': {{mcolor|Water Gun|000}}, {{mcolor|Aura Sphere|000}}, {{mcolor|Dark Pulse|000}}, {{mcolor|Dragon Pulse|000}}, {{mcolor|Rapid Spin|000}} {{mcolor|Water Spout|000}}, {{mcolor|Withdraw|000}}, {{mcolor|Bubble|000}}, {{mcolor|Hydro Pump|000}}, {{mcolor|Water Pulse|000}} '''Burst Attack''': '''Destructive Cannon''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|豪砲|ごうほう}}デストラクション''' ''Strong Cannon of Destruction'') {{sw|Pokkén Tournament/Blastoise|Details on StrategyWiki}}
|-
! class=roundybl style="background:#{{water color}}; border:2px solid #{{water color dark}}" | {{pcolor|Blastoise|000}}
|}

* {{p|Aegislash}} was released on January 31, 2018 as Battle Pack DLC.
* {{p|Blastoise}} was released on March 23, 2018 as Battle Pack DLC.

===Support Pokémon===
;All versions
{| style="width:auto"
|-
! rowspan="2" class=roundyleft style="background:#{{electric color}}; border:2px solid #{{flying color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Emolga.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Emolga|000}}
| style="background:#{{electric color}}; border:2px solid #{{flying color dark}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Shock Wave|000}} to shock the opponent and temporarily decrease its speed.
! rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{fire color}}; border:2px solid #{{fire color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Fennekin.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Fennekin|000}}
|-
| style="background:#{{fire color}}; border:2px solid #{{fire color dark}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Ember|000}} to surround itself with fire, creating a trap.
|-
! rowspan="2" class=roundyleft style="background:#{{grass color}}; border:2px solid #{{grass color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Snivy.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Snivy|000}}
| style="background:#{{grass color}}; border:2px solid #{{grass color dark}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Leaf Tornado|000}} to perform an anti-air attack and send the opponent flying.
! rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{water color}}; border:2px solid #{{ice color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Lapras.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Lapras|000}}
|-
| style="background:#{{water color}}; border:2px solid #{{ice color dark}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Surf|000}} as it enters the stage, damaging the enemy with a wave of water.
|-
! rowspan="2" class=roundyleft style="background:#{{water color}}; border:2px solid #{{water color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Frogadier.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Frogadier|000}}
| style="background:#{{water color}}; border:2px solid #{{water color dark}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Water Pulse|000}} to attack from a distance by firing water bullets. Effective when striking from long distance.
! rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{normal color}}; border:2px solid #{{normal color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Eevee.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Eevee|000}}
|-
| style="background:#{{normal color}}; border:2px solid #{{normal color dark}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Helping Hand|000}} to heal the user and temporarily increase their attack power.
|-
! rowspan="2" class=roundyleft style="background:#{{steel color}}; border:2px solid #{{psychic color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Jirachi.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Jirachi|000}}
| style="background:#{{steel color}}; border:2px solid #{{psychic color dark}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Wish|000}} to restore the Synergy Gauge and temporarily strengthen the user's attack power during Synergy Burst.
! rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{grass color}}; border:2px solid #{{fairy color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Whimsicott.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Whimsicott|000}}
|-
| style="background:#{{grass color}}; border:2px solid #{{fairy color dark}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Substitute|000}} to render attacks from opponents useless and heal the user.
|-
! rowspan="2" class=roundyleft style="background:#{{fire color}}; border:2px solid #{{fire color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Ninetales.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Ninetales|000}}
| style="background:#{{fire color}}; border:2px solid #{{fire color dark}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Will-O-Wisp|000}} to send small flames in front of the user. Enemy's attack power decreased temporarily when contacted.
! rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{ghost color}}; border:2px solid #{{ghost color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Mismagius.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Mismagius|000}}
|-
| style="background:#{{ghost color}}; border:2px solid #{{ghost color dark}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Ominous Wind|000}} to attack the opponent and temporarily increase the user's attack power.
|-
! rowspan="2" class=roundyleft style="background:#{{normal color}}; border:2px solid #{{flying color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Farfetch'd.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Farfetch'd|000}}
| style="background:#{{normal color}}; border:2px solid #{{flying color dark}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Fury Cutter|000}} to perform a flurry of attacks toward the opponent.
! rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{electric color}}; border:2px solid #{{electric color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Electrode.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Electrode|000}}
|-
| style="background:#{{electric color}}; border:2px solid #{{electric color dark}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Explosion|000}} to counter an opponent's attack upon defending.
|-
! rowspan="2" class=roundyleft style="background:#{{electric color}}; border:2px solid #{{ghost color}}" | [[File:Pokkén Rotom.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Rotom|000}}
| style="background:#{{electric color}}; border:2px solid #{{ghost color}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Thunder Shock|000}} to target enemies in the air and temporarily decrease their speed.
! rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{fairy color}}; border:2px solid #{{flying color}}" | [[File:Pokkén Togekiss.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Togekiss|000}}
|-
| style="background:#{{fairy color}}; border:2px solid #{{flying color}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Tailwind|000}} to temporarily increase the user's speed and recover some health.
|-
! rowspan="2" class=roundyleft style="background:#{{dragon color}}; border:2px solid #{{flying color}}" | [[File:Pokkén Dragonite.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Dragonite|000}}
| style="background:#{{dragon color}}; border:2px solid #{{flying color}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Draco Meteor|000}} to attack multiple times over a wide area.
! rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{psychic color}}; border:2px solid #{{fire color}}" | [[File:Pokkén Victini.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Victini|000}}
|-
| style="background:#{{psychic color}}; border:2px solid #{{fire color}}" | Uses {{mcolor|V-create|000}} to temporarily make the user's attacks critical hits, restores some of the user's health, and increases the user's Synergy Gauge. Unlike other Enhance Pokémon, Victini can actually damage the foe if they're above it when flying off the screen.
|-
! rowspan="2" class=roundyleft style="background:#{{poison color}}; border:2px solid #{{fighting color}}" | [[File:Pokkén Croagunk Support.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Croagunk|000}}
| style="background:#{{poison color}}; border:2px solid #{{fighting color}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Toxic|000}} to attack opponent and temporarily decrease its defense.
! rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{fairy color}}; border:2px solid #{{fairy color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Sylveon.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Sylveon|000}}
|-
| style="background:#{{fairy color}}; border:2px solid #{{fairy color dark}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Reflect|000}} to heal user and temporarily increase their defense.
|-
! rowspan="2" class=roundyleft style="background:#{{electric color}}; border:2px solid #{{electric color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Pachirisu.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Pachirisu|000}}
| style="background:#{{electric color}}; border:2px solid #{{electric color dark}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Follow Me|000}} to eliminate long distance attacks. Effective when get in close.
! rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{water color}}; border:2px solid #{{water color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Magikarp.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Magikarp|000}}
|-
| style="background:#{{water color}}; border:2px solid #{{water color dark}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Bounce|000}} to disrupt the enemy's attack when hit by an opponent. Effective for interrupting combos.
|-
! rowspan="2" class=roundyleft style="background:#{{ground color}}; border:2px solid #{{ground color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Cubone.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Cubone|000}}
| style="background:#{{ground color}}; border:2px solid #{{ground color dark}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Bonemerang|000}} to attack from a distance and can pull an enemy in.
! rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{ground color}}; border:2px solid #{{ground color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Diglett.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Diglett|000}}
|-
| style="background:#{{ground color}}; border:2px solid #{{ground color dark}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Dig|000}} to attack from below, making easy to aim for a combo.
|-
! rowspan="2" class=roundyleft style="background:#{{electric color}}; border:2px solid #{{steel color}}" | [[File:Pokkén Magneton.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Magneton|000}}
| style="background:#{{electric color}}; border:2px solid #{{steel color}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Tri Attack|000}} to attack from a distance diagonally upward and inflict two random negative statuses.
! rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{water color}}; border:2px solid #{{ground color}}" | [[File:Pokkén Quagsire.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Quagsire|000}}
|-
| style="background:#{{water color}}; border:2px solid #{{ground color}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Mud Bomb|000}} to attack opponent on the ground, even when blocked.
|-
! rowspan="2" class=roundyleft style="background:#{{psychic color}}; border:2px solid #{{psychic color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Espeon.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Espeon|000}}
| style="background:#{{psychic color}}; border:2px solid #{{psychic color dark}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Morning Sun|000}} to remove any statuses and recover health, with more health recovered with less time remaining in the round.
! rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{dark color}}; border:2px solid #{{dark color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Umbreon.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Umbreon|000}}
|-
| style="background:#{{dark color}}; border:2px solid #{{dark color dark}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Snarl|000}} to absorb an opponent's Synergy Gauge and prevent them from performing any critical hits.
|-
! rowspan="2" class=roundyleft style="background:#{{dragon color}}; border:2px solid #{{fire color}}" | [[File:Pokkén Reshiram.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Reshiram|000}}
| style="background:#{{dragon color}}; border:2px solid #{{fire color}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Blue Flare|000}} to attack straight forward with a powerful flame. In the DX version, it can only be called once per round.
! rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{psychic color}}; border:2px solid #{{psychic color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Cresselia.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Cresselia|000}}
|-
| style="background:#{{psychic color}}; border:2px solid #{{psychic color dark}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Lunar Dance|000}} to heal the user of any negative status, recovers health and Synergy Gauge, but can only be used once per round.
|-
! rowspan="2" class=roundyleft style="background:#{{dark color}}; border:2px solid #{{flying color}}" | [[File:Pokkén Yveltal.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Yveltal|000}}
| style="background:#{{dark color}}; border:2px solid #{{flying color}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Oblivion Wing|000}} to attack from the sky and seal off the opponent's Synergy Burst. In the DX version, it can only be called once per round.
! rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{dragon color}}; border:2px solid #{{psychic color}}" | [[File:Pokkén Latios.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Latios|000}}
|-
| style="background:#{{dragon color}}; border:2px solid #{{psychic color}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Luster Purge|000}} to place attacks around the enemy in order to restrict their movements. In the DX version, it can only be called once per round.
|}

;Switch-only
{| style="width:auto"
|-
! rowspan="2" class=roundyleft style="background:#{{fire color}}; border:2px solid #{{fire color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Litten.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Litten|000}}
| style="background:#{{fire color}}; border:2px solid #{{fire color dark}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Fire Fang|000}} to attack toward the enemy. Damage increases when the player's at lower HP.
! rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{water color}}; border:2px solid #{{water color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Popplio.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Popplio|000}}
|-
| style="background:#{{water color}}; border:2px solid #{{water color dark}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Bubble Beam|000}} to temporarily increase attack and grant a double jump while in midair.
|-
! rowspan="2" class=roundyleft style="background:#{{dragon color}}; border:2px solid #{{flying color}}" | [[File:Mega Rayquaza Pokkén.png|x80px]] {{colorlink|Rayquaza (Pokémon)|000|Mega Rayquaza}}
| style="background:#{{dragon color}}; border:2px solid #{{flying color}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Dragon Ascent|000}} to attack from a distance at tremendous speed. It also consumes the user's Synergy Gauge. It can only be called once per round.
! rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{ghost color}}; border:2px solid #{{fairy color}}" | [[File:Mimikyu Pokkén.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Mimikyu|000}}
|-
| style="background:#{{ghost color}}; border:2px solid #{{fairy color}}" | Uses {{mcolor|Play Rough|000}} to attack continuously from behind and inflict double negative status.
|-
! rowspan="2" class=roundyleft style="background:#{{psychic color}}; border:2px solid #{{psychic color dark}}" | [[File:Pokkén Mew.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Mew|000}}
| style="background:#{{psychic color}}; border:2px solid #{{psychic color dark}}" | Uses '''Miraculous Power''' (Japanese: '''ミラクルパワー''' ''Miracle Power'') to randomly increase the user's Synergy Gauge, temporarily makes the user's attacks critical hits, and/or gives the user additional random positive status.
! rowspan="2" class=roundyright style="background:#{{psychic color}}; border:2px solid #{{grass color}}" | [[File:Pokkén Celebi.png|x80px]] {{pcolor|Celebi|000}}
|-
| style="background:#{{psychic color}}; border:2px solid #{{grass color}}" | Uses '''Time Travel''' (Japanese: '''ときわたり''' ''Time Travel'') to switch between Phases at almost any given moment, even when enemy guards an attack.
|}

* {{me|Rayquaza}}/{{p|Mimikyu}} set was released on January 31, 2018 as Battle Pack DLC.
* {{p|Mew}}/{{p|Celebi}} set was released on March 23, 2018 as Battle Pack DLC.

==Compatibility==
[[amiibo]] are usable within the game to unlock otherwise unobtainable avatar costume items and titles via a "Special Bonus". Sometimes, the reward will simply be in-game currency. Five bonus rewards can be obtained per day. Additionally, any one individual amiibo can only be scanned once per day. Pokémon amiibo are not the only ones that will work with the game; any existing amiibo can be used to receive a reward.

The Shadow Mewtwo promotional card packaged with first-run copies of the game immediately unlocks Shadow Mewtwo for use in the game prior to completing the story, though it will need to be re-scanned each time the game is played. Also, it can not be used as the partner Pokémon (which means it can't be used in the Ferrum League) until unlocked the normal way.

==Codes==
In Pokkén Tournament DX, several avatar items and titles can be unlocked with the following codes by entering a specific code at the Special Code feature, which can be found within the map screen.

{| align="center" style="background: #{{steel color dark}}; {{roundy|5px}}; border: 2px solid #{{steel color}}; text-align:center"
! style="background: #{{steel color}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" rowspan=2 | Item
! style="background: #{{steel color}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" colspan=2 | Code
|-
! style="background: #{{steel color}}" | Male
! style="background: #{{steel color}}" | Female
|- style="background: #fff"
| Simple T-Shirt Set
|'''TC2JY22VBQUU'''
|'''J7XEEQLYNDMT'''
|- style="background: #fff"
| Old Leather Jacket Set
|'''6GSSALLDM9RL'''
|'''NQLMEMRGX37X'''
|- style="background: #fff"
| Hamburger Hat & Short Bob/Medium Hair
|'''H5D9YZFETCQZ'''
|'''USBXKG8X4GLG'''
|- style="background: #fff"
| Training Wear Set
|'''8RMGLXANVZ3R'''
|'''ABZMNSU8D7QN'''
|- style="background:#fff"
| Holiday Ornament
| colspan="2" | '''QRRZ7LBS4TDV'''
|- style="background:#fff"
| Cat Whiskers
| '''LT48EFNGRBRZ'''
| '''L9VPUW8QN9TB'''
|- style="background:#fff"
| Holiday Title
| colspan="2" | '''5W6LEN4TNVF5'''
|}

==Version history==
===Wii U===
{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{gold color light}}; border:3px solid #{{blue color}}"
! style="background: #{{steel color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Version
! style="background: #{{steel color light}}" | Release date
! style="background: #{{steel color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Changes
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.0
| March 18, 2016
|
* Initial release
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.1<ref>[https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Support/Wii-U/Game-Updates/Pokken-Tournament/Software-update-March-18th-2016/Software-update-March-18th-2016-1093398.html Software update: March 18th 2016 | Wii U | Support | Nintendo]</ref>
| March 18, 2016
|
* Introduces additional enhancements to improve the user’s experience and enjoyment.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.2<ref>[https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Support/Wii-U/Game-Updates/Pokken-Tournament/Software-update-April-13th-2016/Software-update-April-13th-2016-1098993.html Software update: April 13th 2016 | Wii U | Support | Nintendo]</ref>
| April 13, 2016
|
* Fixes an issue wherein Shadow Mewtwo could force opponents to continually block by repeatedly using certain moves.
* Adjustments to Mewtwo's battle balance.
* Adjustments to reduce the effect of the Support Pokémon Reshiram.
* Fixes for several bugs that affected battles.
* Introduces additional enhancements to improve the user’s experience and enjoyment.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.3<ref>[https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Support/Wii-U/Game-Updates/Pokken-Tournament/Software-update-June-15th-2016/Software-update-June-15th-2016-1113572.html Software update: June 15th 2016 | Wii U | Support | Nintendo]</ref>
| June 15, 2016
|
* Repairs to resolve a situation where players could use Mewtwo to create a sequence of moves that is difficult to escape.
* Adjustments to the battle balance of Mewtwo, Shadow Mewtwo, Braixen and Charizard.
* Adjustments to the Support Pokémon Diglett and Latios.
* Repaired issues for Mewtwo, Shadow Mewtwo, Braixen and Chandelure.
* Repaired an issue for the Support Pokémon Croagunk.
|-
| style="background: #{{steel color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" colspan="3" |
|}

===Nintendo Switch===
{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{gold color light}}; border:3px solid #{{blue color}}"
! style="background: #{{steel color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Version
! style="background: #{{steel color light}}" | Release date
! style="background: #{{steel color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Changes
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.0
| September 22, 2017
|
* Initial release
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.0.1<ref>[https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Support/Nintendo-Switch/Game-Updates/Pokken-Tournament-DX/Software-update-September-21st-2017/Software-update-September-21st-2017-1281862.html Software update: September 21st 2017 | Nintendo Switch | Support | Nintendo]</ref>
| September 22, 2017
|
* Introduces additional enhancements to improve the user’s experience and enjoyment.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.1.0<ref>[https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Support/Nintendo-Switch/Game-Updates/Pokken-Tournament-DX/Software-update-November-15th-2017/Software-update-November-15th-2017-1306491.html Software update: November 15th 2017 | Nintendo Switch | Support | Nintendo]</ref>
| November 15, 2017
|
* Players can now participate in online Team Battles.
* A recording feature has been added to Free Training in Practice Mode.
* Players can get special titles based on their ranking in Official Group Matches.
** Official Group Matches are groups held officially for Pokkén Tournament DX. Rewards are only available for certain Official Group Matches.
* It is now possible to change how battle records are displayed.
* Battle records will be displayed when players enter a group.
* Team Battles are now available in Event Mode.
* Adjustments have been made to some Pokémon and attacks.<ref>[https://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/pokkenDX/news/171110_01.html Pokkén Tournament DX Ver1.1.0 (Japanese)]</ref>
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.2.0<ref>[https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Support/Nintendo-Switch/Game-Updates/Pokken-Tournament-DX/Software-update-January-31st-2018/Software-update-January-31st-2018-1334875.html Software update: January 31st 2018 | Nintendo Switch | Support | Nintendo]</ref>
| January 31, 2018
|
* Pokkén Tournament DX Battle Pack Wave 1 compatibility has been added.
* Video capture compatibility added. Hold the Capture Button to capture up to 30 seconds of the previous footage.
** The system must be updated to Ver 4.0.0 or higher to use this feature.
* Adjustments have been made to some Pokémon and attacks.<ref>[https://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/pokkenDX/news/180202_01.html Pokkén Tournament DX Ver1.2.0 (Japanese)]</ref>
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.3.0<ref>[https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Support/Nintendo-Switch/Game-Updates/Pokken-Tournament-DX/Software-update-March-23rd-2018/Software-update-March-23rd-2018-1355859.html Software update: March 23rd 2018 | Nintendo Switch | Support | Nintendo]</ref>
| March 23, 2018
|
* Pokkén Tournament DX Battle Pack Wave 2 compatibility has been added.
* Adjustments have been made to some Pokémon and attacks.<ref>[https://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/pokkenDX/news/180323_01.html Pokkén Tournament DX Ver1.3.0 (Japanese)]</ref>
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.3.1<ref>[https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Support/Nintendo-Switch/Game-Updates/Pokken-Tournament-DX/Software-update-May-16th-2018/Software-update-May-16th-2018-1378878.html Software update: May 16th 2018 | Nintendo Switch | Support | Nintendo]</ref><ref>[https://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/pokkenDX/news/180518_01.html Pokkén Tournament DX Ver1.3.1 (Japanese)]</ref>
| May 16, 2018
|
* This distribution has adjusted the balance of some of the Pokémon added from Ver. 1.2.0 onward.
* Adjustments have been made to make for a more pleasant gaming experience.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.3.2<ref>[https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Support/Nintendo-Switch/Game-Updates/Pokken-Tournament-DX/Software-update-July-11th-2018/Software-update-July-11th-2018-1402910.html Software update: July 11th 2018 | Nintendo Switch | Support | Nintendo]</ref><ref>[https://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/pokkenDX/news/180706_01.html Pokkén Tournament DX Ver1.3.2 (Japanese)]</ref>
| July 11, 2018
|
* This version contains different adjustments for the Pokémon, including the addition of some brand-new actions.
* Other adjustments have been made to make for a more pleasant gaming experience.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1.3.3<ref>[https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Support/Nintendo-Switch/Game-Updates/How-to-Update-Pokken-Tournament-DX-1482899.html How to Update Pokkén Tournament DX | Nintendo Switch | Support | Nintendo]</ref><ref>[https://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/pokkenDX/news/180921_01.html Pokkén Tournament DX Ver1.3.3 (Japanese)]</ref>
| September 26, 2018
|
* Adjustments have been made to make for a more pleasant gaming experience.
* Adjustments have been made to some Pokémon and attacks.
|-
| style="background: #{{steel color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" colspan="3" |
|}

==Staff==
{{main|Staff of Pokkén Tournament|Staff of Pokkén Tournament (DX)}}

===Cast===
{{cast/h|Unova}}
{{cast|Unova|Nia|disp=Nia|Staff of Pokkén Tournament{{!}}Ananda Jacobs|Nia|List of Japanese voice actors{{!}}Marina Inoue|ニア|井上麻里奈|top=yes}}
{{cast|Unova|Anne (game)|disp=Anne|Staff of Pokkén Tournament{{!}}Jenny Shima|Anne|List of Japanese voice actors{{!}}Yui Ishikawa|アン|石川由依}}
{{cast|Unova|Alyssa (game)|disp=Alyssa|Staff of Pokkén Tournament{{!}}Tomomi Shimada|Alyssa|Mayumi Iizuka|アリッサ|飯塚雅弓}}
{{cast|Unova|Glenn (game)|disp=Glenn|Staff of Pokkén Tournament{{!}}Charles Glover|Glenn|List of Japanese voice actors{{!}}Kensuke Sato|グレン|佐藤健輔}}
{{cast|Unova|Travis (game)|disp=Travis|Staff of Pokkén Tournament{{!}}Michael Wattley|Travis|List of Japanese voice actors{{!}}Tarusuke Shingaki|トラヴィス|新垣樽助}}
{{cast|Unova|Keith (game)|disp=Keith|Staff of Pokkén Tournament{{!}}Brett Coleman|Keith|List of Japanese voice actors{{!}}Kenta Ohkuma|キース|大隈健太}}
{{cast|Unova|Elinn|disp=Elinn|Staff of Pokkén Tournament{{!}}Aniella Sanchez|Elinn|Karin Nanami|エリン|奈波果林}}
{{cast|Unova|Walter|disp=Walter|Staff of Pokkén Tournament{{!}}Walter Roberts|Walter|Minoru Inaba|ウォルター|稲葉実}}
{{cast|Unova|Nora|disp=Nora|Staff of Pokkén Tournament{{!}}Rachel Walzer|Nora|Romi Park|ノーラ|朴ロ美}}
{{cast|Unova|Jake|disp=Jake|Staff of Pokkén Tournament{{!}}Peter von Gomm|Jake|List of Japanese voice actors{{!}}Masaki Terasoma|ジェイク|てらそままさき}}
{{cast|Unova|Nicholas (game)|disp=Nicholas|Staff of Pokkén Tournament{{!}}Jovette Rivera|Nicholas|List of Japanese voice actors{{!}}Kazuhiro Fusegawa|ニコラス|布施川一寛}}
{{cast|Unova|Chloe|disp=Chloe|Staff of Pokkén Tournament{{!}}Rumiko Varnes|Chloe|Chinatsu Akasaki|クロエ|赤﨑千夏}}
{{cast|Unova|Ryan (game)|disp=Ryan|Staff of Pokkén Tournament{{!}}Vinay Murthy|Ryan|List of Japanese voice actors{{!}}Chiharu Shigematsu|ライアン|重松千晴}}
{{cast|Unova|Maya (game)|disp=Maya|Staff of Pokkén Tournament{{!}}Tomomi Shimada|Maya|List of Japanese voice actors{{!}}Saaya Nohara|マヤ||bottom=yes}}
|}

==Reception==
Gaming magazine {{wp|Famitsu}} gave Pokkén Tournament a score of 34 out of 40.<ref>[https://nintendoeverything.com/famitsu-review-scores-32916/ Famitsu review scores (3/29/16) - Nintendo Everything]</ref> {{wp|IGN}} rated both the [[Wii U]] and [[Nintendo Switch]] versions a "Great" 8.0/10.<ref>[https://www.ign.com/articles/2016/03/15/pokken-tournament-review Pokkén Tournament Review - IGN]</ref><ref>[https://www.ign.com/articles/2017/09/21/pokken-tournament-dx-review Pokkén Tournament DX Review - IGN]</ref> Pokkén Tournament and Pokkén Tournament DX hold a rating of 76.91%<ref>[https://www.gamerankings.com/wii-u/180304-pokken-tournament/index.html Pokkén Tournament for Wii U - GameRankings]</ref> and 80.10%,<ref>[https://www.gamerankings.com/switch/210929-pokken-tournament-dx/index.html Pokken Tournament DX for Nintendo Switch - GameRankings]</ref> respectively, on {{wp|GameRankings}}.

===Sales===
Pokkén Tournament sold over 1 million units worldwide.<ref>[https://www.bandainamcoent.co.jp/corporate/press/release/62/pdf/20160818-1.pdf Wii Uソフト『ポッ拳』が世界累計出荷本数100万本を突破!!]</ref> As of March 31, 2018, Pokkén Tournament DX has sold 1.16 million copies outside of Japan.<ref>[https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2018/180426_4e.pdf#page=6 Nintendo Co., Ltd. - Earnings Release for Fiscal Year Ended March 2018]</ref>

====Japanese sales====
Pokkén Tournament sold 69,675 units on its first week on the Japanese market,<ref>[https://gematsu.com/2016/03/media-create-sales-31416-32016 Media Create Sales: 3/14/16 – 3/20/16 - Gematsu]</ref> with a {{wp|sell-through}} of 36.65%. By December 31, 2017, the end of its 94th week, it had sold 181,529 copies.<ref>[https://www.resetera.com/threads/media-create-sales-cy-2017-2017-jan-02-2017-dec-31-new-used.66944/ Media Create Sales: CY 2017 (2017 Jan 02 - 2017 Dec 31) | ResetEra]</ref>

Pokkén Tournament DX sold 53,395 units on its first week,<ref>[https://gematsu.com/2017/09/media-create-sales-91817-92417 Media Create Sales: 9/18/17 – 9/24/17 - Gematsu]</ref> with a {{wp|sell-through}} of 41.39%. By December 30, 2018, the end of its 67th week, it had sold 316,688 copies.<ref>[https://www.resetera.com/threads/media-create-sales-cy-2018-2018-jan-01-2018-dec-30-new-used.138706/ Media Create Sales: CY 2018 (2018 Jan 01 - 2018 Dec 30) | ResetEra]</ref>

<div style="display:inline-block">
''Pokkén Tournament''
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{blue color dark}}; background:#{{gold color}}"
! style="background:#{{steel color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Week
! style="background:#{{steel color light}}" | Week ending
! style="background:#{{steel color light}}" | Ranking
! style="background:#{{steel color light}}" | Units sold
! style="background:#{{steel color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Total units sold
|- style="background:#fff"
| 1
| March 20, 2016
| 1st
| 69,675
| 69,675
|- style="background:#fff"
| 2
| March 27, 2016
| 5th
| 28,331
| 98,007
|- style="background:#fff"
| 3
| April 3, 2016
| 5th
| 14,295
| 112,302
|- style="background:#fff"
| 4
| April 10, 2016
| 7th
| 8,065
| 120,366
|- style="background:#fff"
| 5
| April 17, 2016
| 11th
| 4,348
| 124,715
|- style="background:#fff"
| 6
| April 24, 2016
| 26th
| -
| -
|- style="background:#fff"
| 7
| May 1, 2016
| 23rd
| -
| -
|- style="background:#fff"
| 8
| May 8, 2016
| 16th
| 5,029
| 136,478
|- style="background:#fff"
| 9
| May 15, 2016
| 23rd
| -
| -
|- style="background:#fff"
| 10
| May 22, 2016
| 27th
| -
| -
|- style="background:#fff"
| 11
| May 29, 2016
| 30th
| -
| -
|- style="background:#fff"
| 12
| June 5, 2016
| 25th
| -
| -
|- style="background:#fff"
| 13
| June 12, 2016
| 29th
| -
| -
|- style="background:#fff"
| 14
| June 19, 2016
| 39th
| -
| -
|- style="background:#fff"
| 15
| June 26, 2016
| 46th
| -
| -
|- style="background:#fff"
| 42
| January 1, 2017
| -
| -
| 169,043
|- style="background:#fff"
| 94
| December 31, 2017
| -
| -
| 181,529
|-
| style="background:#{{steel color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" colspan="5" |
|}</div>
<div style="display:inline-block">
''Pokkén Tournament DX''
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{blue color dark}}; background:#{{gold color}}"
! style="background:#{{steel color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Week
! style="background:#{{steel color light}}" | Week ending
! style="background:#{{steel color light}}" | Ranking
! style="background:#{{steel color light}}" | Units sold
! style="background:#{{steel color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Total units sold
|- style="background:#fff"
| 1
| September 24, 2017
| 1st
| 53,395
| 53,395
|- style="background:#fff"
| 2
| October 1, 2017
| 5th
| 23,543
| 76,938
|- style="background:#fff"
| 3
| October 8, 2017
| 6th
| 11,831
| 88,768
|- style="background:#fff"
| 4
| October 15, 2017
| 5th
| 8,367
| 97,135
|- style="background:#fff"
| 5
| October 22, 2017
| 11th
| 5,224
| 102,359
|- style="background:#fff"
| 6
| October 29, 2017
| 16th
| 4,588
| 106,947
|- style="background:#fff"
| 7
| November 5, 2017
| 14th
| 4,882
| 111,829
|- style="background:#fff"
| 8
| November 12, 2017
| 18th
| 3,862
| 115,691
|- style="background:#fff"
| 9
| November 19, 2017
| 12th
| 6,642
| 122,333
|- style="background:#fff"
| 10
| November 26, 2017
| 17th
| 4,197
| 126,530
|- style="background:#fff"
| 11
| December 3, 2017
| 21st
| -
| -
|- style="background:#fff"
| 12
| December 10, 2017
| 17th
| 8,362
| 139,637
|- style="background:#fff"
| 13
| December 17, 2017
| 18th
| 11,144
| 150,782
|- style="background:#fff"
| 14
| December 24, 2017
| 8th
| 27,053
| 177,835
|- style="background:#fff"
| 15
| December 31, 2017
| 11th
| 13,650
| 191,485
|- style="background:#fff"
| 16
| January 7, 2018
| 14th
| 12,553
| 204,038
|- style="background:#fff"
| 17
| January 14, 2018
| 43rd
| -
| -
|- style="background:#fff"
| 18
| January 21, 2018
| 17th
| 4,311
| 209,965
|- style="background:#fff"
| 19
| January 28, 2018
| 13th
| 4,765
| 214,730
|- style="background:#fff"
| 20
| February 4, 2018
| 15th
| 3,731
| 218,461
|- style="background:#fff"
| 67
| December 30, 2018
| -
| -
| 316,688
|-
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==Promotion==
A brief snippet of footage from the game featuring {{p|Lucario}} and {{p|Blaziken}} first appeared at the end of [http://youtu.be/-Ifspg5ZCkw a retrospective] at the [[Pokémon Game Show]], which was held in Tokyo on August 17 and 18, 2013. Later that month, the game's title {{n|Trademarks found for new Pokémon product|was discovered}} as a trademark registered in Japan and the United States, although the connection between the title and the footage was not confirmed until the game's formal announcement. The game was officially announced on a [http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv189764569 NicoNico livestream] that was held by the [[The Pokémon Company]] on August 26, 2014, which showed Lucario (which [[Mega Evolution|Mega Evolved]] into Mega Lucario) fighting {{p|Machamp}}. The [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/a-new-collaboration-from-pokemon-and-tekken/ English Pokémon site] also mentioned the announcement, and uploaded the debuting teaser trailer for the game on their YouTube channel.

Bandai Namco Games, the game's developer, asked for fighter suggestions. Japanese residents could Tweet at [https://twitter.com/pokken_official/ @pokken_official] with the Pokémon they would like to see using the hashtag #ポッ拳 in order to make a suggestion. Due to having the most requests, {{p|Gengar}} was confirmed as a fighter in April 2015.

==Trailers==
;''POKKÉN TOURNAMENT: First Look!'' (First teaser trailer)
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;''Pokkén Tournament Arrives on Wii U in Spring 2016!'' (Wii U announcement trailer)
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;''Shadow Mewtwo Revealed in Pokkén Tournament!''
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;''More Footage from Pokkén Tournament!'' (additional Shadow Mewtwo footage)
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==Trivia==
* This is the only Pokémon game to use its Japanese logo in international releases.
* In the trailer announcing the game coming to Wii U in spring of 2016, the scene where Mega Lucario charges up an {{m|Aura Sphere}} could possibly be a reference to [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY0KBMkvDyo the opening] of ''{{wp|Super Street Fighter II}}'', in which {{wp|Ryu (Street Fighter)|Ryu}} charges and fires off a {{wp|Hadouken}}.
* The German version of this game is the only one that does not utilize the portmanteau ''Pokkén'', instead opting for a title with the separated terms "''Pokémon Tekken''".
** This may be due to the fact that the German word ''Pocken'', meaning {{wp|smallpox}}, has a similar pronunciation to the term ''Pokkén''.
** Despite the title change, the German logo still includes the Japanese text for "''Pokkén''".
* None of the playable characters or support Pokémon are {{type|Rock}}.
** Additionally, none of the playable characters are {{type|Normal}}.
* Although the icon for the face in the shop has a mustache, none of the options have any facial hair at all.
** However, at least 1 NPC has a beard.
* {{m|Substitute}} dolls and {{wp|Mokujin}} training dummies can be seen in the background of the Ferrum Dojo stage.
* A {{tc|Hex Maniac}} can be seen in the background of the Haunted House stage, frantically trying to open a locked door.
* In Tellur Town, there is a Trainer with a {{p|Volcarona}}, riding a [[Bicycle]]. This may be a reference to the fact that in the [[core series]] games, {{pkmn|Egg}}s hatch more quickly when a Pokémon with {{a|Flame Body}}, such as Volcarona, is in the {{player}}'s [[party]].
* Pokkén Tournament DX is the first Pokémon game released on a Nintendo console to not carry the Nintendo logo on its U.S. boxart. This is due to the boxart for Nintendo-published Switch games not carrying the Nintendo logo.
* Pokkén Tournament was the last Pokémon game released for the Wii U, while Pokkén Tournament DX was the first Pokémon game released for the Nintendo Switch.

==In other languages==
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==Related articles==
*[[a:Category:Pokkén Tournament|Images on the Bulbagarden Archives]]

==External links==
*{{nw|Pokkén Tournament}} at [[NintendoWiki]]
*{{nw|Pokkén Tournament DX}} at [[NintendoWiki]]

==References==
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Lucario (Pokémon)

2020-05-09T19:42:48Z

SeanWheeler: /* Pokkén Tournament */

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'''Lucario''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ルカリオ''' ''Lucario'') is a dual-type {{2t|Fighting|Steel}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} introduced in [[Generation IV]].

It [[Evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Riolu}} when [[level]]ed up with high [[friendship]] during the [[Time|day]].

Lucario can [[Mega Evolution|Mega Evolve]] into '''Mega Lucario''' using the [[Lucarionite]].

==Biology==
Lucario is a bipedal, canine-like Pokémon, with fur that is predominantly blue and black. It possesses a short, round spike on the back of each forepaw, in addition to a third on its chest. It has red eyes, a long snout and ears. When its mouth is open, two pairs of pointed teeth, one in the upper jaw and one in the lower, can be seen. It possesses cream-colored fur on its torso, and blue fur on its thighs that resembles shorts. It has a medium length tail of the same blue color as well. It stands on its toes rather than on its entire foot. It has developed four black appendages that hang down from its head, which rise when Lucario reads or manipulates [[aura]], a special energy that it senses. Lucario can study this energy to predict the movements of their opponents and track their quarry. They also have the power to manipulate this energy in an offensive manner, in the form of explosive spheres of energy. Lucario can understand human speech, and have been reported to communicate with humans through telepathy.

As Mega Lucario, its cream fur becomes longer, and its thighs slim down. It develops more spikes on the back of its paws, which have turned crimson. It also develops spikes on both of its feet, which have become crimson too. Its previously red eyes are now orange-colored. Its aura-sensing appendages grow longer, and two of them are tipped in crimson. Its shoulders also possess a spike each. Its aura heightens throughout its body, which formed black markings on its blue fur.<ref>http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-us/pokemon/mega_pokemon/#Lucario</ref> In [[Kalos]], Mega Lucario is believed to be the first discovered Mega Evolution. People call Mega Lucario's fighting style heartless due to it being bathed in combative instincts and not showing any mercy to any other opposing Pokémon.

Lucario is considered to be prideful, and is extremely loyal to its Trainer. It also seems to have a natural sense of justice. It usually lives deep in mountains very far from people to improve their skills. It is an exceptionally rare Pokémon. Lucario are primarily carnivores, hunting their prey in packs, though one {{OBP|Lucario|M08}} was seen eating {{Berries}} and plants like roses. It has been seen eating chocolate, even though chocolate is not part of its natural diet.

==In the anime==
===In the main series===
[[File:Lucario anime.png|thumb|250px|Lucario in the {{pkmn|anime}}]]
====Major appearances====
=====[[Lucario (M08)]]=====
Lucario debuted as one of the main Pokémon in ''[[M08|Lucario and the Mystery of Mew]]''. He belonged to [[Sir Aaron]] and was sealed away in his staff for a thousand years. Ash later released him during a festival and he helped guide him to the [[Tree of Beginning]] after {{OBP|Mew|M08}} teleported {{AP|Pikachu}} there. However, he sacrificed himself to save the Tree of Beginning.

=====[[Maylene's Lucario]]=====
Lucario's main series debut was in ''[[DP066|Lost Leader Strategy!]]'' as [[Maylene]]'s main Pokémon; it was first seen {{pkmn|battle|battling}} with Maylene in their {{pkmn|training}}. Lucario used {{m|Aura Sphere}} to stop the battle of {{TP|Paul|Electabuzz}}, {{TP|Dawn|Piplup}}, and {{AP|Pikachu}}. It was used in Maylene's matches with [[Paul]], {{an|Dawn}}, and {{Ash}}.

=====[[Riley's Lucario]]=====
[[Riley]]'s Lucario debuted in ''[[DP110|Steeling Peace of Mind!]]'' at [[Iron Island]]. When {{Ash}} and {{ashfr}} traveled there after being contacted by {{an|Barry}}, they found the local {{type|Steel}} Pokémon fighting brutally against each other and the other Pokémon on the island. When a crazed {{p|Aggron}} attacked Ash, Riley stepped in and had Lucario attack it with {{m|Close Combat}}. Despite being a Steel-type as well, Lucario wasn't immediately affected like the others of its type due to its strong [[aura]].

=====[[Cameron's Lucario]]=====
{{un|Cameron}}'s {{p|Riolu}} evolved into a Lucario in ''[[BW107|Cameron's Secret Weapon!]]'' in a [[Vertress Conference]] battle against [[Ash's Snivy]]. It beat Snivy and fought against [[Ash's Pikachu]] in ''[[BW108|A Unova League Evolution]]'', and won, but lost to [[Virgil]]'s {{DL|Virgil|Flareon}} later in the episode. It tends to [[Walking Pokémon|walk outside of its Poké Ball]].

=====[[Korrina's Lucario]]=====
{{an|Korrina}}'s Lucario debuted in ''[[XY030|Mega Revelations!]]'' as her [[walking Pokémon]]. The duo obtained a [[Lucarionite]] in the [[XY031|following episode]], allowing it to [[Mega Evolution|Mega Evolve]]. Korrina later used Lucario in her [[Gym]] {{pkmn|battle}} against Ash, and later during the battle to stop the [[Giant Rock]]. It previously evolved from a Riolu. It was often seen [[Walking Pokémon|outside of its Poké Ball]] in the episodes it appeared in.

[[File:Korrina Mega Lucario.png|thumb|250px|Mega Lucario in the anime]]

=====Other=====
A Lucario that can Mega Evolve into Mega Lucario appeared in ''[[XY032|The Aura Storm!]]'', under the ownership of Korrina's grandfather [[Gurkinn]]. Gurkinn's Lucario was used in a battle against Korrina's own Lucario, but when Korrina's Lucario lost control when it Mega Evolved, Gurkinn's Lucario had to knock it out.

A Lucario appeared in ''[[M20|I Choose You!]]'', under the ownership of [[Sorrel]]. It is his main Pokémon.

A Lucario appeared in ''[[SM140|Z-Move Showdown!]]'', under the ownership of {{an|Professor Kukui}}. It was sent out to battle a {{Shiny}} {{DL|Ultra Beasts (anime)|Shiny Guzzlord|Guzzlord}} that interrupted the closing ceremony of the [[Manalo Conference]], only to be defeated and recalled to its {{i|Poké Ball}}. Lucario reappeared in ''[[SM142|A Full Battle Bounty!]]'' and ''[[SM143|Fiery Surprises!]]'', where it was Kukui's fifth Pokémon during his [[Full Battle]] against Ash. It went up against [[Ash's Naganadel]] and lost.

====Minor appearances====
A Lucario made a cameo appearance in the opening sequence of ''[[M10|The Rise of Darkrai]]'', where it was seen dodging a {{p|Rayquaza}}'s {{m|Hyper Beam}}.

A {{pkmn|Coordinator}}'s Lucario was seen on [[Television|TV]] in ''[[DP150|Unlocking the Red Chain of Events!]]''. It was participating in a [[Double Performance]] alongside a {{p|Froslass}}.

A Lucario that can Mega Evolve into Mega Lucario appeared in the opening of ''[[XYS01|Mega Evolution Special I]]''.

A Lucario that can Mega Evolve into Mega Lucario appeared in a flashback or a fantasy in ''[[XY043|Origins of Mega Evolution!]]''.

====Pokédex entries====
{{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}
{{Animedexbody|DP066|Lucario|Ash's Pokédex|Lucario, the Aura Pokémon, and the evolved form of {{p|Riolu}}. By sensing the [[aura]] of its opponents, Lucario can read their thoughts and movements.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond & Pearl''|Sinnoh}}
{{Animedexheader|Unova}}
{{Animedexbody|BW108|Lucario|Cameron's Pokédex|Lucario, the Aura Pokémon. Lucario has the power to detect their opponent's thoughts and actions by reading their aura.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Black & White''|Unova}}
{{Animedexheader|Kalos}}
{{Animedexbody|XY030|Lucario|Ash's Pokédex|Lucario, the Aura Pokémon and the evolved form of Riolu. Lucario reads the thoughts of others and anticipates their movements by sensing their auras.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''XY''|Kalos}}
{{Animedexheader|Alola}}
{{Animedexbody|SM142|Lucario|Rotom Pokédex|Lucario, the Aura Pokémon. A {{t|Fighting}} and {{t|Steel}} type. Lucario can concentrate its mental energy into a mysterious wave called aura that can reduce boulders to dust.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Sun & Moon''|Alola}}

===In the Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 Animated Trailer===
[[File:Nate Lucario Aura Sphere Animated Trailer.png|thumb|250px|Lucario in the animated trailer]]
A Lucario appeared in the [[Pokémon Black Version 2 and Pokémon White Version 2 Animated Trailer]], under the ownership of {{ga|Nate}}. It and its Trainer pursued a member of the [[Shadow Triad]] across the frozen [[Opelucid City]], but despite their efforts to stop him, that member escaped with his comrades.
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===In the Pokémon Masters Animated Trailer===
[[File:Korrina Lucario Masters Aura Sphere.png|250px|thumb|Korrina's Lucario in the [[Pokémon Masters Animated Trailer]]]]
====[[Korrina's Lucario]]====
Korrina's Lucario appeared in the [[Pokémon Masters Animated Trailer]]. Alongside [[Cheren]]'s {{p|Stoutland}} and [[Misty's Starmie]], it battled [[Cynthia's Garchomp]], [[Steven's Metagross]], and [[Lance's Dragonite]]. At the behest of its {{pkmn|Trainer}}, Lucario tried to catch Stoutland after it was knocked back by Garchomp's {{m|Dragon Claw}}, but this backfired and both Pokémon were incapacitated. After Starmie defended it and Stoutland from Dragonite's {{m|Hyper Beam}}, Lucario defended itself from Metagross's {{m|Flash Cannon}} with Aura Sphere.
{{-}}

==In the manga==
[[File:Korrina Lucario Adventures.png|thumb|200px|Lucario in [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]
[[File:Korrina Mega Lucario Adventures.png|thumb|200px|Mega Lucario in [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]
===In the movie adaptations===
{{main|Lucario (M08)}}
The Lucario from the eighth movie appears in [[Lucario and the Mystery of Mew (manga)|the adaptation]].

===In the Phantom Thief Pokémon 7 manga===
{{main|Hiori's Lucario}}
Lucario is [[Hiori]]'s primary Pokémon in [[Phantom Thief Pokémon 7]].

===In the Pocket Monsters B2 W2 ~ A New Legend ~ manga===
A Lucario appeared in [[ANL5]], under the ownership of [[Arata]].

===In the Pocket Monsters Diamond & Pearl manga===
A Lucario appeared in [[PDP20]].

===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
{{main|Riley's Lucario}}
{{main|Korrina's Lucario}}
In the [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga, like the {{pkmn|games}}, one appears under the ownership of [[Riley]]. It first appeared in ''[[PS378|Grumpy Gliscor]]''.

[[Korrina]] has a Lucario which she [[Mega Evolution|Mega Evolves]] to help when {{adv|X}} and his friends were attacked in [[Santalune City]] who first appeared in ''[[PAXY06|The Aegislash Agenda]]''.

===In the Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure! manga===
{{main|Maylene's Lucario}}
{{main|Riley's Lucario}}
[[Riley]] has a Lucario, which is his only known Pokémon. He trained it while he was on [[Iron Island]] in ''[[DPA10|Serious Training on Iron Island!!]]''.

[[Maylene]] sent out her Lucario to take on one of the {{tc|Galactic Grunt}}s in ''[[DPA11|The Legendary Pokémon, Captured]]''.

[[Hareta]]'s Riolu evolved into Lucario in ''[[DPA14|A Novel Test!!]]''.

[[Cynthia]]'s Lucario made a minor appearance during its Trainer's battle with [[Mitsumi]] in ''[[DPA23|A New Battle Begins!]]''.

===In the Pokémon Pocket Monsters manga===
A Lucario appeared in [[PMDP05]].

A Lucario appeared in [[PMDP29]].

==In the TCG==
{{main|Lucario (TCG)}}

==Other appearances==
[[File:Pokkén Lucario.png|thumb|x200px|Lucario's official artwork for Pokkén Tournament]]
===[[Pokkén Tournament]]===
{{Main|Lucario (Pokkén Tournament)}}
Lucario is a playable character for the arcade fighting game. Its moves include {{m|Force Palm}}, {{m|Bone Rush}}, {{m|Extreme Speed}}, and multiple variations of {{m|Aura Sphere}}. Upon entering Burst form, it Mega-Evolves and can use the Burst Attack Aura Blast.

===[[Super Smash Bros.]]===
{{main|Lucario (Super Smash Bros.)}}
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==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
* {{g|Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team}}: Lucario is seen as the greatest rescue leader of all time, and his adventures have become legendary. While the player never meets Lucario, [[Team A.C.T.|Alakazam]] tells the player that his goal is to become closer to Lucario's greatness. Earning 15000 Rescue Points will put the player in the top [[Rank (Mystery Dungeon)|Rescue Rank]]—Lucario Rank—at which point the Lucario Statue will be displayed outside the [[Team Base]].
* {{g|Ranger: Shadows of Almia}}: Lucario is the guardian of the {{DL|The King of Almia and the Three Princes|Blue Gem}}.

===Pokédex entries===
====Lucario====
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{{Dex/Entry1|v=Pearl|entry=By catching the Aura emanating from others, it can read their thoughts and movements.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Platinum|entry=A well-trained one can sense auras to identify and take in the feelings of creatures over {{tt|half a mile|one kilometer}} away.}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=HeartGold|v2=SoulSilver|entry=It's said that no foe can remain invisible to Lucario, since it can detect Auras. Even foes it could not otherwise see.}}
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{{Dex/Gen/1|gen=V|reg1=Unova|num1=034|label1={{gameabbrev5|B2W2}}:}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black|v2=White|t=FFF|entry=A well-trained one can sense auras to identify and take in the feelings of creatures over {{tt|half a mile|one kilometer}} away.}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black 2|v2=White 2|t=FFF|entry=By reading the aura of all things, it can tell how others are feeling from over {{tt|half a mile|one kilometer}} away.}}
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{{Dex/Gen/2|gen=VI|reg1=Kalos|num1=063|label1=Central|reg2=Hoenn}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=X|t=FFF|entry=By catching the Aura emanating from others, it can read their thoughts and movements.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Y|entry=By reading the auras of all things, it can tell how others are feeling from over {{tt|half a mile|one kilometer}} away.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Omega Ruby|t=FFF|entry=By catching the aura emanating from others, it can read their thoughts and movements.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Alpha Sapphire|t=FFF|entry=By reading the auras of all things it can tell how others are feeling from over {{tt|half a mile|one kilometer}} away.}}
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{{Dex/Gen/3|gen=VII|reg1=Alola|num1=280|label1={{gameabbrev7|SM}}:|reg2=Alola|num2=378|label2={{gameabbrev7|USUM}}:|reg3=Kanto}}
{{Dex/NE|[[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!|Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]]‎}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Sun|entry=Not only does it perceive auras, but it has also gained the power to control them. It employs them in battle.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Moon|entry=They can detect the species of a living being—and its emotions—from over {{tt|half a mile|one kilometer}} away. They control auras and hunt their prey in packs.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Ultra Sun|entry=It concentrates its mental energy and fires off mysterious waves called auras, which can crush boulders of large size to dust.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Ultra Moon|entry=Lucario reads its opponent's feelings with its aura waves. It finds out things it would rather not know, so it gets stressed out easily.}}
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{{Dex/Gen/1|gen=VIII|reg1=Galar|num1=299}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Sword|entry=It controls waves known as auras, which are powerful enough to pulverize huge rocks. It uses these waves to take down its prey.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Shield|entry=It can tell what people are thinking. Only Trainers who have justice in their hearts can earn this Pokémon's trust.}}
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====Mega Lucario====
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{{Dex/NA|gen=VI}}
{{Dex/Gen/2|gen=VI|reg1=Kalos|num1=063|label1=Central|reg2=Hoenn}}
{{Dex/NE|[[Generation VI]]}}
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{{Dex/Gen/3|gen=VII|reg1=Alola|num1=280|label1={{gameabbrev7|SM}}:|reg2=Alola|num2=378|label2={{gameabbrev7|USUM}}:|reg3=Kanto}}
{{Dex/NE|[[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!|Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]]‎}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Sun|entry=Black streaks all over its body show where its auras and the energy of Mega Evolution intermingled and raced through it.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Moon|entry=It readies itself to face its enemies by focusing its mental energies. Its fighting style can be summed up in a single word: heartless.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Ultra Sun|entry=Its aura has expanded due to Mega Evolution. Governed only by its combative instincts, it strikes enemies without mercy.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Ultra Moon|entry=Bathed in explosive energy, its combative instincts have awakened. For its enemies, it has no mercy whatsoever.}}
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===Game locations===
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====In side games====
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====In events====
{{eventAvail/h|Language/Region|type=Fighting|type2=Steel}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev4|DP}}|PalCity Lucario|Japanese|Japan|50|July 15 to September 2, 2007|link=List of local Japanese event Pokémon distributions in Generation IV#PalCity Lucario}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev4|DP}}|2008 World Championships Lucario|English|United States|30|August 17, 2008|link=List of local English event Pokémon distributions in Generation IV#2008 World Championships Lucario}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev4|DP}}|2008 World Championships Lucario|French|United States|30|August 17, 2008|link=List of local French event Pokémon distributions in Generation IV#2008 World Championships Lucario}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev4|DP}}|2008 World Championships Lucario|German|United States|30|August 17, 2008|link=List of local German event Pokémon distributions in Generation IV#2008 World Championships Lucario}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev4|DP}}|2008 World Championships Lucario|Italian|United States|30|August 17, 2008|link=List of local Italian event Pokémon distributions in Generation IV#2008 World Championships Lucario}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev4|DP}}|2008 World Championships Lucario|Japanese|United States|30|August 17, 2008|link=List of local Japanese event Pokémon distributions in Generation IV#2008 World Championships Lucario}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev4|DP}}|2008 World Championships Lucario|Spanish|United States|30|August 17, 2008|link=List of local Spanish event Pokémon distributions in Generation IV#2008 World Championships Lucario}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev5|BW}}|Powerful Tag Lucario|Japanese|Japan|50|June 1 to 22, 2012|link=List of local Japanese event Pokémon distributions in Generation V#Lucario}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev6|ORAS}}|Mega Campaign Lucario|All|Japan|100|January 1 to 31, 2016|link=List of local event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Lucario}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev7|SM}}|Sorrel's Lucario|Japanese region|Online|40|August 1 to 28, 2017|link=List of Japanese region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VII#Sorrel's Lucario}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev7|SM}}|Sorrel's Lucario|All|Japan|40|August 22 to September 3, 2017|link=List of local event Pokémon distributions in Generation VII#Sorrel's Lucario}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev7|SMUSUM}}|Sorrel's Lucario|Korean region|Online|40|December 9, 2017 to January 31, 2018|link=List of Korean region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VII#Sorrel's Lucario}}
|}

====Pokémon Global Link promotions====
{{eventAvail/h|type=Fighting|type2=Steel}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev5|BW}}|Global Link Lucario|Japanese|PGL|10|December 22, 2011 to January 31, 2012|link=List of Pokémon Global Link promotions/Pokémon#Lucario}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev5|BW}}|Global Link Lucario|English|PGL|10|January 15 to May 23, 2012|link=List of Pokémon Global Link promotions/Pokémon#Lucario}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev5|BW}}|Global Link Lucario|French|PGL|10|March 1 to May 23, 2012|link=List of Pokémon Global Link promotions/Pokémon#Lucario}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev5|BW}}|Global Link Lucario|German|PGL|10|March 1 to May 23, 2012|link=List of Pokémon Global Link promotions/Pokémon#Lucario}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev5|BW}}|Global Link Lucario|Italian|PGL|10|March 1 to May 23, 2012|link=List of Pokémon Global Link promotions/Pokémon#Lucario}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev5|BW}}|Global Link Lucario|Spanish|PGL|10|March 1 to May 23, 2012|link=List of Pokémon Global Link promotions/Pokémon#Lucario}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev5|BW}}|Global Link Lucario|Korean|PGL|10|April 16 to May 31, 2012|link=List of Pokémon Global Link promotions/Pokémon#Lucario}}
|}

===Held Items===
{{HeldItems|type=Fighting|type2=Steel
|event1=Metal Coat|event1type=None|event1rar=100
|event2=Leftovers|event2type=None|event2rar=100
|event3=Persim Berry|event3type=Berry|event3rar=100
|event4=Lucarionite|event4type=None|event4rar=100
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
=====Lucario=====
{{BaseStats
|type=Fighting
|type2=Steel
|HP= 70
|Attack=110
|Defense=70
|SpAtk= 115
|SpDef= 70
|Speed= 90}}

=====Mega Lucario=====
{{BaseStats
|type=Fighting
|type2=Steel
|HP= 70
|Attack= 145
|Defense= 88
|SpAtk= 140
|SpDef= 70
|Speed= 112}}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|type=Fighting
|type2=Steel
|Speed=3
|SpeedMax=4
|Power=4
|PowerMax=5
|Technique=4
|TechniqueMax=5
|Stamina=2
|StaminaMax=3
|Jump=3
|JumpMax=4
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{TypeEffectiveness
|type1=Fighting
|type2=Steel
|Normal= 50
|Fighting=200
|Flying= 100
|Poison= 0
|Ground= 200
|Rock= 25
|Bug= 25
|Ghost= 100
|Steel= 50
|Fire= 200
|Water= 100
|Grass= 50
|Electric=100
|Psychic= 100
|Ice= 50
|Dragon= 50
|Dark= 50
|Fairy= 100
|notes=yes
|steel=yes
|gen5dark=yes
|gen5ghost=yes
|olddark=¼
|oldghost2=½
|newpoison=1}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh/8|Lucario|Fighting|Steel|4}}
{{learnlist/level8|1|Aura Sphere|Fighting|Special|80|—|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level8|1|Life Dew|Water|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/level8|1|Work Up|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/level8|1|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level8|1|Nasty Plot|Dark|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/level8|1|Screech|Normal|Status|—|85|40}}
{{learnlist/level8|1|Force Palm|Fighting|Physical|60|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level8|1|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/level8|1|Copycat|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/level8|1|Final Gambit|Fighting|Special|—|100|5}}
{{learnlist/level8|1|Reversal|Fighting|Physical|—|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level8|1|Quick Attack|Normal|Physical|40|100|30}}
{{learnlist/level8|1|Detect|Fighting|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/level8|1|Feint|Normal|Physical|30|100|10}}
{{learnlist/level8|1|Metal Claw|Steel|Physical|50|95|35||'''}}
{{learnlist/level8|{{tt|Evo.|Learned upon evolving}}|Aura Sphere|Fighting|Special|80|—|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level8|12|Counter|Fighting|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level8|16|Laser Focus|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/level8|20|Power-Up Punch|Fighting|Physical|40|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level8|24|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/level8|28|Metal Sound|Steel|Status|—|85|40}}
{{learnlist/level8|32|Quick Guard|Fighting|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/level8|36|Bone Rush|Ground|Physical|25|90|10}}
{{learnlist/level8|40|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/level8|44|Heal Pulse|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/level8|48|Meteor Mash|Steel|Physical|90|90|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level8|52|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|85|100|10}}
{{learnlist/level8|56|Extreme Speed|Normal|Physical|80|100|5}}
{{learnlist/level8|60|Close Combat|Fighting|Physical|120|100|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelf/8|Lucario|Fighting|Steel|4}}

====By [[TM]]/[[TR]]====
{{learnlist/tmh/8|Lucario|Fighting|Steel|4}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM00|Mega Punch|Normal|Physical|80|85|20}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM01|Mega Kick|Normal|Physical|120|75|5}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM04|Ice Punch|Ice|Physical|75|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM05|Thunder Punch|Electric|Physical|75|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM08|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM09|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM15|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM16|Screech|Normal|Status|—|85|40}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM21|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM22|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM24|Snore|Normal|Special|50|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM25|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM26|Scary Face|Normal|Status|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM31|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM33|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM34|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM39|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM40|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM41|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM42|Revenge|Fighting|Physical|60|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM43|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM48|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|60|95|15}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM57|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM59|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM63|Drain Punch|Fighting|Physical|75|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM65|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM75|Low Sweep|Fighting|Physical|65|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM76|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM79|Retaliate|Normal|Physical|70|100|5}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM81|Bulldoze|Ground|Physical|60|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR00|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR07|Low Kick|Fighting|Physical|—|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR10|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR11|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR12|Agility|Psychic|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR13|Focus Energy|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR20|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR21|Reversal|Fighting|Physical|—|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR26|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR27|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR31|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|100|75|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR32|Crunch|Dark|Physical|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR33|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR41|Blaze Kick|Fire|Physical|85|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR46|Iron Defense|Steel|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR48|Bulk Up|Fighting|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR49|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR53|Close Combat|Fighting|Physical|120|100|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR56|Aura Sphere|Fighting|Special|80|—|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR57|Poison Jab|Poison|Physical|80|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR58|Dark Pulse|Dark|Special|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR62|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|85|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR64|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR68|Nasty Plot|Dark|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR69|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR70|Flash Cannon|Steel|Special|80|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR75|Stone Edge|Rock|Physical|100|80|5}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR85|Work Up|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/tmf/8|Lucario|Fighting|Steel|4}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh/8|Lucario|Fighting|Steel|4}}
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|052|Meowth}}{{MSP|052A|Meowth}}{{MSP|053|Persian}}{{MSP|053A|Persian}}{{MSP|058|Growlithe}}{{MSP|059|Arcanine}} {{MSP|133|Eevee}}{{MSP|134|Vaporeon}}{{MSP|135|Jolteon}}{{MSP|136|Flareon}}{{MSP|196|Espeon}}{{MSP|197|Umbreon}} {{MSP|303|Mawile}}{{MSP|309|Electrike}}{{MSP|310|Manectric}}{{MSP|434|Stunky}}{{MSP|435|Skuntank}}{{MSP|449|Hippopotas}} {{MSP|450|Hippowdon}}{{MSP|470|Leafeon}}{{MSP|471|Glaceon}}{{MSP|554|Darumaka}}{{MSP|554G|Darumaka}}{{MSP|555|Darmanitan}} {{MSP|555G|Darmanitan}}{{MSP|700|Sylveon}}{{MSP|725|Litten}}{{MSP|726|Torracat}}{{MSP|727|Incineroar}}{{MSP|819|Skwovet}} {{MSP|820|Greedent}}{{MSP|835|Yamper}}{{MSP|836|Boltund}}{{MSP|859|Impidimp}}{{MSP|860|Morgrem}}{{MSP|861|Grimmsnarl}} {{MSP|877|Morpeko}}|Bite|Dark|Physical|60|100|25}}
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|107|Hitmonchan}}{{MSP|675|Pangoro}}|Bullet Punch|Steel|Physical|40|100|30||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|538|Throh}}{{MSP|674|Pancham}}{{MSP|675|Pangoro}}|Circle Throw|Fighting|Physical|60|90|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|066|Machop}}{{MSP|067|Machoke}}{{MSP|068|Machamp}}{{MSP|727|Incineroar}}{{MSP|862|Obstagoon}}|Cross Chop|Fighting|Physical|100|80|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|083G|Farfetch'd}}{{MSP|107|Hitmonchan}}{{MSP|237|Hitmontop}}{{MSP|302|Sableye}}{{MSP|448|Lucario}}{{MSP|701|Hawlucha}} {{MSP|852|Clobbopus}}{{MSP|853|Grapploct}}{{MSP|865|Sirfetch'd}}|Detect|Fighting|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|106|Hitmonlee}}{{MSP|559|Scraggy}}{{MSP|560|Scrafty}}{{MSP|701|Hawlucha}}|High Jump Kick|Fighting|Physical|130|90|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|058|Growlithe}}{{MSP|059|Arcanine}}{{MSP|309|Electrike}}{{MSP|310|Manectric}}|Howl|Normal|Status|—|—|40}}
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|106|Hitmonlee}}|Mind Reader|Normal|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|107|Hitmonchan}}|Vacuum Wave|Fighting|Special|40|100|30||'''}}
{{learnlist/breedf/8|Lucario|Fighting|Steel|4}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh/8|Lucario|Fighting|Steel|4}}
{{learnlist/tutor8|Steel Beam|Steel|Special|140|95|5||'''|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutorf/8|Lucario|Fighting|Steel|4}}

====By a prior [[evolution]]====
{{learnlist/prevoh/8|Lucario|Fighting|Steel|4}}
{{learnlist/prevo8null}}
{{learnlist/prevof/8|Lucario|Fighting|Steel|4}}

===={{Trading Card Game}}-only moves====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{tcg fighting color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{tcg fighting color}}"
! Move
! Card
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{m|Focus Energy}}
| [[Aura's Lucario (PCG-P Promo 79)]]
|}

===Side game data===
{{Spindata/Head|type=Fighting|type2=Steel}}
{{Spindata/MDTDS|col=6|type=Fighting|ndex=448
|body=1
|rate=-10
|IQ=C
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Ranger SoA|col=6|type=Fighting
|group=Fighting
|assist=Fighting
|fieldpower=-
|num=223
|browser=It launches {{m|Aura Sphere|orbs of Aura}} power. It becomes stronger if its Aura cloaks it.
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Ranger GS|col=6|type=Fighting
|group=Fighting
|assist=Fighting
|field=Crush
|fieldpower=4
|num=265
|pastnum=179
|browser=It attacks with punches.
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Rumble|col=3|type=Fighting
|att=4
|def=3
|speed=3
}}
{{Spindata/RumbleBlast|col=3|type=Fighting
|att=4
|def=3
|speed=3
}}
|-
{{Spindata/PokéPark|col=6|type=Fighting|ndex=448
|Pad=Lucario is traveling through the PokéPark, taking time to enjoy {{DL|Attractions|Tangrowth's Swing Along}} and {{DL|Attractions|Rayquaza's Balloon Panic}}. He likes some of the other Attractions, too.
}}
|-
{{Spindata/PokéPark2|col=6|type=Fighting|ndex=448
|strong=[[File:Tepig icon.png|link=Tepig (Pokémon)]]
|weak=[[File:Snivy icon.png|link=Snivy (Pokémon)]]
|pad=He is traveling around PokéPark for training. He likes to meet strong Pokémon.
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Conquest|col=6|type=Fighting|ndex=448
|HP=3
|atk=4
|def=3
|spd=4
|range=3
|move=Aura Sphere
|ability1=Inner Focus
|ability2=Parry
|ability3=Sprint
|evo=Evolves from {{p|Riolu}} when it has a link of 50% or higher
|link={{DL|List of Pokémon Conquest characters|Nagayoshi}} and '''[[Ranmaru]]'''
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Battle Trozei|col=6|type=Fighting|ndex=448
|power=3
|skill=Power of Five
|skilldesc=Increases the damage dealt by matching five Pokémon.
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Shuffle|col=6|type=Fighting|ndex=448|num=078
|mega=1
|stone=Lucarionite
|min=70
|max=140
|raisemaxlevel=20
|skill=Pummel
|skilldesc=Increases damage done by any Fighting types in the combo.
|megaspeedup=4
|effectdesc=Erases all Pokémon five rows above and five rows below.
}}
|-
{{Spindata/GO|col=6|type=Fighting|ndex=448
|hatch=N/A
|buddy=5
|candy=Lucario
|evolution=N/A
|stamina=172
|attack=236
|defense=144
|fast={{m|Counter}}, {{m|Bullet Punch}}
|special={{m|Flash Cannon}}, {{m|Shadow Ball}}, {{m|Close Combat}}, {{m|Power-Up Punch}}{{tt|*|From March 5, 2019 onward}}, {{m|Aura Sphere}}{{tt|*|From December 11, 2019 onward}}
}}
|}

===Evolution===
{{Evobox-2
|type1=Fighting
|type2=Steel
|pictype=art
|no1=447
|name1=Riolu
|type1-1=Fighting
|evo1={{bag|Soothe Bell}} {{color2|000|Friendship}} (daytime)
|breed={{MS|Egg}} {{color2|000|Pokémon Breeding|Breed}}
|no2=448
|name2=Lucario
|type1-2=Fighting
|type2-2=Steel}}

===Forms===
====Mega Evolution====
{{Evobox/Formes
|sprite1=448Lucario
|name1=Lucario
|type1-1=Fighting
|type2-1=Steel
|forme1=Lucario
|loc1=Default
|item1=Lucarionite
|sprite2=448Lucario-Mega
|type1-2=Fighting
|type2-2=Steel
|forme2=Mega Lucario
|loc2={{color2|000|Held item|Held}} Lucarionite
}}

===Sprites===
{{Spritebox/Header|type=Fighting|type2=Steel}}
{{Spritebox/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Spritebox/4|ndex=448}}
{{Spritebox/5|ndex=448}}
{{Spritebox/6/2Forms|ndex=448|form1=M}}
{{Spritebox/7/2Forms|ndex=448|form1=M}}
{{Spritebox/Footer|448|Lucario}}

==Trivia==
[[File:Dusty.png|thumb|200px|Dusty's Lucario costume]]
* Because of its debut in the {{series|Advanced Generation}} {{pkmn|movie}} ''[[M08|Lucario and the Mystery of Mew]]'', Lucario appears in the original versions of {{so|Battle Frontier}} and its English dub counterpart, [[Unbeatable]], alongside {{p|Mime Jr.}} and {{p|Weavile}}, despite not debuting until the following generation.
* Lucario's English name was revealed on February 9, 2006 with the announcement of the title of ''Lucario and the Mystery of Mew''.
* In {{g|Battle Revolution}}, [[Dusty]] wears a Lucario costume.
* Due to Lucario's combination of {{Abilities}}, in {{g|Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness}} and {{g|Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky}} Steadfast only activates if Lucario becomes {{DL|Seeds|X-Eye Seed|cross-eyed}}, or if the opponent has {{a|Mold Breaker}}.
* Lucario has the fewest [[move]]s of all the [[Pokkén Tournament]] fighters, with a total of four.
* Mega Lucario has the highest {{stat|Special Attack}} stat of all non-legendary {{type|Fighting}} Pokémon.
* In the Pokémon of the Year poll held by the Pokémon Company in 2020, Lucario was voted the most popular [[Generation IV]] Pokémon, receiving 102,259 votes. It was also the second-most popular Pokémon overall.

===Origin===
Lucario appears to be based on the Egyptian god of funerals and the dead, {{wp|Anubis}}, who has the head of an {{wp|African golden wolf}}. Anubis's role in {{wp|Egyptian mythology}} was to judge the hearts of deceased souls based on their actions during their life. This resembles Lucario's ability to see a life form's aura. It also seems to be based on an Egyptian boxer. {{wp|Boxing}} is a sport that is believed to have origins in Egypt.

The markings on Lucario's face resemble a mask. The rings around its shoulders may be inspired by {{wp|iron rings}} used in martial arts. The four appendages on Lucario's head, together with the shape drawn by its mask (a bisected ring), may suggest inspiration from a {{wp|khakkhara}}, which in popular depictions can respond to spiritual energies similarly to how Lucario's appendages act when it senses aura.

====Name origin====
Lucario may be derived from the reverse of the Japanese transliteration of ''{{wp|orichalcum}}'' (a mythical metal) or ''{{wp|oracle}}'' (referring to its supernatural abilities involving [[aura]]). It may also involve ''{{wp|Egyptian Jackal|lupaster}}'' (a subspecies of the {{wp|Golden jackal|Canis aureus}}), {{wp|Cairo|''Cairo''}}, ''{{wp|pharaoh}}'', ''lykos'' (Greek for ''wolf''), ''luchar'' (Spanish for ''fight''), or ''lucarius'' (Latin for ''(one) of light'' or ''luminary'').

==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=Fighting|type2=Steel
|ja=ルカリオ ''Lucario''|jameaning=From the reverse of ''orichalcum'' (a mythical metal) or ''oracle'' (referring to its supernatural abilities involving aura). May also involve ''lupaster'' (a subspecies of the Canis aureus), ''Cairo'', ''pharaoh'', or ''lykos'' (Greek for wolf).
|de=Lucario|demeaning=Same as Japanese name
|fr=Lucario|frmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|es=Lucario|esmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|it=Lucario|itmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|ko=루카리오 ''Lucario''|komeaning=Transliteration of Japanese name
|zh_cmn=路卡利歐 / 路卡利欧 ''Lùkǎlì'ōu''|zh_cmnmeaning=Transliteration of Japanese name
|zh_yue=路卡利歐{{tt|*|anime}} ''Louhkāleih'āu'' 路卡利奧{{tt|*|M08}} ''Louhkāleih'ou''|zh_yuemeaning=Transliteration of Japanese name
|gr=Λουκάριο ''Loukário''|grmeaning=Transcription of English/Japanese name
|ru=Лукарио ''Lukario''|rumeaning=Transcription of English/Japanese name
|ar=لوكاريو ''Lucario''|armeaning=Transcription of English/Japanese name
|th=ลูคาริโอ ''Lucario ''|thmeaning=Transcription of trademarked Japanese name
}}
 

==Related articles==
* [[Lucario (M08)]]
* [[Maylene's Lucario]]
* [[Riley's Lucario]]
* [[Cameron's Lucario]]
* [[Korrina's Lucario]]
* [[Hiori's Lucario]]
* [[Lucario (Super Smash Bros.)]]
* [[Mega Evolution]]

==Notes==
<references />

==External links==
*[[wp:Lucario|Article on Wikipedia]]
*[http://www.ssbwiki.com/Lucario_%28SSBB%29 SmashWiki article on Lucario's ''SSBB'' appearance]

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Charizard (Pokémon)

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|jname=リザードン
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'''Charizard''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''リザードン''' ''Lizardon'') is a dual-type {{2t|Fire|Flying}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} introduced in [[Generation I]].

It [[Evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Charmeleon}} starting at [[level]] 36. It is the final form of {{p|Charmander}}.

Charizard has three other forms.
* It can [[Mega Evolution|Mega Evolve]] into two forms:
** '''Mega Charizard X''' using [[Charizardite X]].
** '''Mega Charizard Y''' using [[Charizardite Y]].
* It has a [[Gigantamax]] form.

Charizard is the [[game mascot]] of [[Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|Pokémon Red]] and [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FireRed]] Versions.

==Biology==
[[File:Mega Charizard X Mega Charizard Y artwork.png|thumb|230px|left|Mega Charizard X and Mega Charizard Y.]]
Charizard is a draconic, bipedal Pokémon. It is primarily orange with a cream underside from the chest to the tip of its tail. It has a long neck, small blue eyes, slightly raised nostrils, and two horn-like structures protruding from the back of its rectangular head. There are two fangs visible in the upper jaw when its mouth is closed. Two large wings with blue-green undersides sprout from its back, and a horn-like appendage juts out from the third joint of each wing. A single wing-finger is visible through the center of each wing membrane. Charizard's arms are short and skinny compared to its robust belly, and each limb has three white claws. It has stocky legs with cream-colored soles on each of its {{wp|plantigrade}} feet. The tip of its long, tapering tail burns with a sizable flame.

Charizard has two Mega Forms. Both feature a shorter snout, white, vertical slit pupils, and a bright underside reaching the lower jaw.

As Mega Charizard X, its body and legs are more physically fit, though its arms remain thin. Its skin turns black with a sky-blue underside and soles. Two spikes with blue tips curve upward from the front and back of each shoulder, while the tips of its horns sharpen, turn blue, and curve slightly upward. Its brow and claws are larger, and its eyes are now red. It has two small, fin-like spikes under each horn and two more down its lower neck. The finger disappears from the wing membrane, and the lower edges are divided into large, rounded points. The third joint of each wing-arm is adorned with a claw-like spike. Mega Charizard X breathes blue flames out the sides of its mouth, and the flame on its tail now burns blue. It is said that its new power turns it black and creates more intense flames.

As Mega Charizard Y, it becomes sleeker in appearance but retains its normal coloration. It has three pointed horns on the back of its head, the middle of which is longer. Its snout has larger fangs and a ridge on the nose. Its neck is shorter, but its torso is thinner and longer. It features longer {{wp|digitigrade}} feet. Its hands are less developed, with extremely shortened fingers that are no longer separated from each other. Small wings develop on its wrists, while the ones on its back become larger, lose the wing finger passing through their membrane and end up with ragged edges. The back of its tail has a large spike at the base and three smaller ones near the tip, which now burns with a longer flame. Mega Charizard Y is said to have incredible flying prowess that is greater than a jet fighter.

As Gigantamax Charizard, it becomes larger and physically fit. The lower part of its body glows white with several yellow diamonds located on the lower belly. There are also diamond-shaped spots located on the front legs. The claws located on its hand and feet become longer and sharp. The feet become longer and digitigrade, retaining small glowing soles under the forefeet. The wings are transformed into literal flame wings extending to the shoulder blade and two flames located on the horns. The colossal flamed wings were created from the energy of [[Gigantamax]]ing. The sclera of the eyes becomes yellow. The glow of a flame can be seen in the mouth, and the teeth grow, with the lower front teeth and three teeth in the middle now protruding when the mouth is closed. The flame on the tail extends out and has three red clouds surrounding it. The flames within Gigantamax Charizard burns hotter than 3,600 degrees Fahrenheit. When it roars, the temperature can climb to even higher lengths. The wings are capable of being hotter than magma which Charizard uses to burn its opponents.<ref>[https://swordshield.pokemon.com/en-us/pokemon-galar-region/gigantamax-charizard/ Gigantamax Charizard]</ref>

Charizard flies in search of powerful opponents to battle, and its fire will burn hotter as it gains experience. Its fiery breath is capable of melting boulders, massive glaciers, and has been known to accidentally cause forest fires. In the past, {{m|Blast Burn}} was its [[signature move]]. Charizard typically inhabit {{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Mountain Pokémon|mountains and valleys}}, such as the [[Charicific Valley]] in [[Johto]]. [[EP134|The anime]] has shown that only a weak Charizard would show off its power. [[HS17|It also showed]] that Charizard can swim underwater, with [[Pokémon Origins]] further showing that the flame on the tip of the tail can still keep burning underwater. The wings of Charizard can carry to an altitude of 4,600 feet (1,400 meters).

Charizard is the [[Signature move|only known Pokémon]] capable of using the exclusive [[G-Max Move]] {{m|G-Max Wildfire}}.

==In the anime==
===In the main series===
[[File:Leon Charizard.png|thumb|250px|left|Charizard in the {{pkmn|anime}}]]
[[File:Alain Mega Charizard X.png|thumb|250px|Mega Charizard X in the anime]]
[[File:Trevor Mega Charizard Y.png|thumb|250px|Mega Charizard Y in the anime]]
[[File:Leon Gigantamax Charizard.png|thumb|250px|Gigantamax Charizard in the anime]]
====Major appearances====
=====[[Ash's Charizard]]=====
{{Ash}} has a Charizard that he {{pkmn2|caught}} as a Charmander in ''[[EP011|Charmander – The Stray Pokémon]]''. It evolved from Charmeleon in ''[[EP046|Attack of the Prehistoric Pokémon]]'' after saving Ash from the claws of an {{p|Aerodactyl}}. Unfortunately, Charizard disobeyed Ash's orders until ''[[EP105|Charizard Chills]]''.

=====[[Charla]]=====
{{jo|Liza}} of the [[Charicific Valley]] owns her own Charizard, [[nickname]]d Charla. It apparently has a romantic relationship with Ash's Charizard after it became her bodyguard.

=====[[Team A.C.T.]]=====
The Charizard from Team A.C.T. and its teammates had a cameo in ''[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Team Go-Getters Out of the Gate!]]''. They were considered for the job of rescuing Big Brother Pikachu but were already on another mission.

=====[[Alain's Charizard]]=====
A Charizard that can [[Mega Evolution|Mega Evolve]] into Mega Charizard X appeared in the {{series|XY}}, under the ownership of [[Alain]], a [[Pokémon Trainer]] who seeks to defeat all Mega Evolved Pokémon.

=====[[Trevor's Charizard]]=====
{{an|Trevor}} has a Charizard that he received as a Charmander from [[Professor Sycamore]]. It was revealed to be capable of Mega Evolving into Mega Charizard Y, as shown in ''[[XY125|A League of His Own!]]''.

=====[[Kiawe's Charizard]]=====
{{an|Kiawe}} owns a Charizard that was given to him by [[Kiawe's grandfather|his grandfather]]. He often uses it as his personal [[Poké Ride|Ride Pokémon]].

=====Other=====
In ''[[M01|Mewtwo Strikes Back]]'', a Charizard participated in the battle between the original Pokémon and the cloned Pokémon, battling {{Ash}}'s Charizard and winning easily. Unlike much of its brethren, Charizard wasn't cloned from Ash's Charizard and it had the same marks that Charmandertwo had, indicating that it was likely obtained by {{OBP|Mewtwo|original series}} through different means than the ones used to clone the Trainers' captured Pokémon. Charizard reappeared in ''[[Mewtwo Returns]]''.

In ''[[EP248|One Trick Phony!]]'', a Charizard was borrowed from the {{jo|Battle Park}} and was used by [[Jessie]] in a battle against Ash and his {{AP|Totodile}} as part of an elaborate plan to capture {{AP|Pikachu}}.

In ''[[HS17|Those Darn Electabuzz!]]'', [[Corey Demario]] has a Charizard [[nickname]]d Don. {{an|Casey}} had to help them get their fighting spirit back so that Corey could start pitching for the Electabuzz baseball team.

In ''[[AG128|Shocks and Bonds]]'', [[Clark]]'s Charizard was used alongside a {{p|Quilava}} to battle [[Ash's Grovyle]] and {{AP|Glalie}}. Charizard defeated Grovyle but then lost to Glalie.

In ''[[AG177|Grating Spaces]]'', {{OBP|Delibird|Team Rocket}} gave Jessie and [[James]] a Charizard and an {{DL|List of Pokémon temporarily owned by the Team Rocket trio|Aggron}}, with Jessie getting Charizard and James getting Aggron. However, Delibird took the two Pokémon away at the end of the episode as they were meant for [[Cassidy]] and [[Butch]].

In [[SS012]], [[Leon]]'s Charizard battled [[Lance]]'s [[Red Gyarados|Gyarados]] during the [[World Championships|Pokémon World Championships]] finals and won. It reappeared in [[SS013]]. Charizard is capable of [[Gigantamax]]ing.

====Minor appearances====
In ''[[EP017|Island of the Giant Pokémon]]'', a giant robot Charizard was at [[Pokémon Land]].

Charizard made its physical debut in a flashback in ''[[EP025|Primeape Goes Bananas]]''.

In ''[[EP056|The Ultimate Test]]'', [[James]] used a Charizard lent by the [[Pokémon League entrance exam instructor]]. He eventually tried to steal it.

In ''[[EP057|The Breeding Center Secret]]'', a Charizard was part of a TV advertisement for [[Cassidy]] and [[Butch]]'s breeding center, in which it evolved from a Charmeleon.

In ''[[EP164|Carrying On!]]'', [[Ash's Noctowl]] {{m|Hypnosis|hypnotized}} an attacking {{p|Fearow}} into seeing it as a Charizard.

In ''[[EP169|Beauty and the Breeder]]'', a {{tc|Pokémon Breeder}}'s Charizard was used in [[Pokémon Beauty Contest|a Pokémon breeding competition]].

A Charizard appeared in [[Vitzo]]'s fantasy in ''[[EP203|The Screen Actor's Guilt]]''.

In ''[[AG062|Disguise Da Limit]]'', a {{pkmn|Coordinator}}'s Charizard participated in the {{to|Verdanturf}} {{pkmn|Contest}}.

A Charizard appeared in the opening sequence of ''[[M07|Destiny Deoxys]]''.

In ''[[M08|Lucario and the Mystery of Mew]]'', multiple Charizard were part of the feuding armies that were eventually placated by [[Sir Aaron]] in the past.

A Charizard that can Mega Evolve appeared in the opening of ''[[XYS01|Mega Evolution Special I]]''. Unlike Alain's Charizard, this Charizard can Mega Evolve into Mega Charizard Y.

A Mega Charizard X appeared in the opening credits of ''[[M17|Diancie and the Cocoon of Destruction]]'', while a Mega Charizard Y appeared in the movie's ending credits.

A Charizard appeared in ''[[M19|Volcanion and the Mechanical Marvel]]''.

A Charizard appeared during a fantasy in ''[[SM042|Alola, Kanto!]]''.

In [[SS022]], a Trainer's Charizard appeared in a video hologram.

A Charizard appeared in a fantasy in [[SS019]].

====Pokédex entries====
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{{Animedexbody|EP105|Dragon Rage|Ash's Pokédex|{{tt|Rage|Should have said ''Dragon'' Rage}}, one of Charizard's most powerful [[Move|attacks]]. {{tt|Rage|Should have said ''Dragon'' Rage}} attack usually has a devastating effect on its opponents.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|original|Orange|text=Original series entries continue below.}}
{{Animedexheader|Johto}}
{{Animedexbody|EP248|Charizard|Ash's Pokédex|Charizard, the Flame Pokémon. Charizard's powerful flame can melt absolutely anything.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|original|Johto}}
{{Animedexheader|Unova}}
{{Animedexbody|BW116|Charizard|Ash's Pokédex|Charizard, the Flame Pokémon. Charizard is a {{t|Flying}} and {{t|Fire}} type. When competing in intense battles, Charizard's flame becomes more intense as well.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Best Wishes''|Unova}}

===In Pokémon Origins===
[[File:Red Charizard PO.png|thumb|left|250px|Charizard in [[Pokémon Origins]]]]
[[File:Red Mega Charizard X PO.png|thumb|250px|Mega Charizard X in Pokémon Origins]]
====[[Red's Charizard]]====
{{OBP|Red|Origins}} obtained Charizard as a Charmander from [[Professor Oak]] when he went out on his {{pkmn|journey}}. It evolved into a Charizard sometime after Red defeated [[Koga]] between ''[[PO02|File 2 - Cubone]]'' and ''[[PO03|File 3 - Giovanni]]''. During the fight against Mewtwo in ''[[PO04|File 4 - Charizard]]'', Red's Charizard Mega Evolved into Mega Charizard X and battled Mewtwo. It was the first Mega Evolution seen in the anime.

====Other====
In ''File 1: Red'', a Charizard was one of the Pokémon seen in Professor Oak's introduction.

===In Pokémon Generations===
[[File:Calem Charizard Professor Sycamore PG.png|thumb|250px|Charizard in [[Pokémon Generations]]]]
In ''[[PG18|The Redemption]]'', {{ga|Calem}}'s Charizard celebrated its Trainer's crowning as {{pkmn|Champion}} alongside Calem's {{p|Chesnaught}}.

===In Pokémon: Twilight Wings===
In ''[[TW01|Letter]]'', [[Leon]]'s Charizard battled and defeated [[Bea]]'s {{p|Machamp}} in a [[Pokémon League]] tournament. Charizard reappeared in a fantasy in ''[[TW02|Training]]'' and on television in ''[[TW03|Buddy]]''.
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==In the manga==
[[File:Blue Charizard.png|thumb|left|200px|Charizard in [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]
[[File:Blue Mega Charizard Y.png|thumb|150px|Mega Charizard Y in [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]
[[File:X Salame Mega Charizard X.png|thumb|150px|Mega Charizard X in [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]
===In the Ash & Pikachu manga===
{{main|Ash's Charizard}}
Ash's Charizard appeared in ''[[SP33|Off To The Battle Frontier!!]]'', facing off against [[Noland's Articuno]].

===In The Electric Tale of Pikachu manga===
{{main|Ash's Charizard}}
{{main|Zippo}}
{{OBP|Ash Ketchum|EToP|Ash}}'s Charizard makes a few appearances in [[The Electric Tale of Pikachu]]. It first appears as a {{p|Charmander}} in ''[[ET08|You Gotta Have Friends]]'' and then later as a Charizard in ''[[ET13|The Indigo Finals]]''.

[[Ritchie]]'s Charizard also appears in ''[[ET13|The Indigo Finals]]'', battling against Ash's.

===In the movie adaptations===
{{main|Ash's Charizard}}
Ash's Charizard has made some appearances in the manga adaptations of the movies it appeared in.

===In the Pocket Monsters manga===
{{main|Ash's Charizard}}
Ash's Charizard appeared in a fantasy in [[SSM01]].

===In the Pocket Monsters HGSS Jō's Big Adventure manga===
A Charizard appeared in [[JBA5]], under the ownership of [[Lance]].

===In the Pocket Monsters Platinum: Aim to Be Battle King!! manga===
An unknown Trainer used a Charizard in [[PBK4]].

===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
{{main|Blue's Charizard}}
{{main|Salamè}}
{{main|Kiawe's Charizard}}
One of {{adv|Blue}}'s main Pokémon, Charizard, debuted as a Charmander. With his increased capacity for battle both with augmented strength and his flight ability, he proved to be a valuable asset for Blue, both during the [[Silph Co.]] battles and in the [[Pokémon League]], where {{adv|Red}}'s [[Saur|Venusaur]] narrowly defeated him. He had evolved from Charmeleon sometime before ''[[PS027|Kalling Kadabra]]''. In the {{chap|X & Y}}, he has obtained a [[Charizardite Y]], with it he can [[Mega Evolution|Mega Evolve]] into Mega Charizard Y.

A Charizard was fantasied along with the other fully evolved Kanto starters in ''[[PS150|Chinchou in Charge]]'', where the [[Pokémon Association]] Chairman of Kanto and Johto explained to {{adv|Bill}} and [[Janine]] the special privilege of entering the finals unconditionally after collecting [[Badge]]s.

{{adv|X}}'s Charmeleon, Salamè, evolved into a Charizard during a battle against [[Xerosic]]'s Pokémon in ''[[PAXY34|Charizard Transforms]]''. He has a Charizardite X hidden in the flame on the tip of his tail, and with it, he can Mega Evolve into Mega Charizard X.

A [[Poké Ride]] Charizard appeared in a fantasy in ''[[PASM17|A Raid and Po Town]]''.

[[Kiawe]]'s Poké Ride Charizard appeared in [[PASM37]].

[[Leon]]'s Charizard appeared in the  {{chap|Sword & Shield}}.

===In the Pokémon Battle Frontier manga===
[[Rald]], the main character's mentor, has a Charizard.

===In the Pokémon Gotta Catch 'Em All manga===
A Charizard first appeared in [[GDZ52]], under the ownership of [[Nagi]].

===In the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Ginji's Rescue Team manga===
{{main|Team A.C.T.}}
The Charizard from Team A.C.T. appears in [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Ginji's Rescue Team]]. He, along with his teammates, is a role model of {{OBP|Mudkip|Ginji's Rescue Team}} and tries to rescue him when he mistakenly believes that [[Ginji]] is a threat to Mudkip's safety.

===In the Pokémon + Nobunaga's Ambition ~ Ranse's Color Picture Scroll ~ manga===
A Charizard first appeared in ''[[PNA4|The Scarlet Scroll: Kunoichi's Situation]]'', under the ownership of [[Yukimura]].

===In the Pokémon Pocket Monsters manga===
{{main|Green's Charizard}}
{{OBP|Green|Pocket Monsters}}, the main rival of {{OBP|Red|Pocket Monsters}}, owns a Charizard that evolved from Charmander, his [[starter Pokémon]], apparently skipping the Charmeleon stage in the process. It is a mischievous Pokémon that has a rivalry with [[Red's Clefairy]]. It has reverted to the Charmander stage, although it has since evolved back into Charizard permanently.

A Charizard appeared in ''[[PM051|Pikachu's Birthday Party]]''.

A Charizard appeared in ''[[PMRS53|Clefairy's Golf Debut!]]''.

===In the Pokémon - The Legend of the Dragon King manga===
{{OBP|Akira|LDK}}, the main character, owns a Charizard.

[[Mori]] also owns a Charizard.

===In the Pokémon Zensho manga===
{{main|Satoshi's Charizard (Zensho)}}
In [[Pokémon Zensho]], {{Zensho|Satoshi}} owns a Charizard that was originally a Charmander he received from Professor Oak.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Charizard (TCG)}}
Charizard's [[Charizard (Base Set 4)|first-released TCG card]], which as part of the {{TCG|Base Set}}, was widely regarded at the height of popularity of Pokémon as the best card ever. This was because of its powerful attack, Fire Spin, and useful Pokémon Power, Energy Burn, which allowed it to convert any Energy attached to it to {{TCG|Fire}} Energy. {{m|Fire Spin}} needed four Fire Energy and could deal 100 damage, knocking out the majority of Pokémon cards. In addition, it had the highest HP then, at 120. Individual Charizard cards were sold up to as much as $150. First edition cards of this dwarfed this price at one point breaking the $1000 US price point. This Charizard card was reprinted in [[Wizards of the Coast]]'s {{TCG|Base Set 2}} and {{TCG|Legendary Collection}} sets, and released again with updated artwork in the {{TCG|Stormfront}} expansion.

==In the TFG==
One Charizard figure has been released.
* {{TFG|Next Quest}}: {{TFG ID|Next Quest|Charizard|1}}

==Other appearances==
[[File:Pokkén Charizard.png|250px|thumb|Charizard in [[Pokkén Tournament]]]]
===[[Super Smash Bros.]]===
{{main|Charizard (Super Smash Bros.)}}

===[[Pokkén Tournament]]===
{{Main|Charizard (Pokkén Tournament)}}
Charizard is a Power-type playable character in Pokkén. Moves it can use include {{m|Flamethrower}}, {{m|Fire Punch}}, {{m|Flare Blitz}}, and {{m|Seismic Toss}}. Upon entering Synergy Burst, it Mega-Evolves into Mega Charizard X and can use the Burst Attack Searing Blaze.

===''{{mov|Detective Pikachu}}''===
A Charizard appeared in ''{{mov|Detective Pikachu}}'', under the ownership of {{OBP|Sebastian|Detective Pikachu}}. It fought {{OBP|Detective Pikachu|character}} prior to the events of the movie.
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==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
* [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]: Charizard is a member of [[Team A.C.T.]].

===Pokédex entries===
====Charizard====
{{Dex/Header|type=Fire|type2=Flying}}
{{Dex/Gen/1|gen=I|reg1=Kanto|num1=006}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Red|v2=Blue|t2=FFF|entry=Spits fire that is hot enough to melt boulders. Known to cause forest fires unintentionally.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Yellow|entry=When expelling a blast of super hot fire, the red flame at the tip of its tail burns more intensely.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Stadium|t=FFF|color=000|entry=Its fiery breath reaches incredible temperatures. It can quickly melt glaciers weighing 10,000 tons.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen/1|gen=II|reg1=Johto|num1=231}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Gold|entry=If Charizard becomes furious, the flame at the tip of its tail flares up in a whitish-blue color.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Silver|entry=Breathing intense, hot flames, it can melt almost anything. Its breath inflicts terrible pain on enemies.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Crystal|entry=It uses its wings to fly high. The temperature of its fire increases as it gains experience in battle.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Stadium 2|t=FFF|color=000|entry=If Charizard becomes furious, the flame at the tip of its tail flares up in a whitish-blue color.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen/2|gen=III|reg1=Hoenn|reg2=Kanto|num2=006}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Ruby|v2=Sapphire|t=FFF|t2=FFF|entry=Charizard flies around the sky in search of powerful opponents. It breathes fire of such great heat that it melts anything. However, it never turns its fiery breath on any opponent weaker than itself.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Emerald|t=FFF|entry=A Charizard flies about in search of strong opponents. It breathes intense flames that can melt any material. However, it will never torch a weaker foe.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=FireRed|entry=Its wings can carry this Pokémon close to an altitude of {{tt|4,600 feet|1,400 meters}}. It blows out fire at very high temperatures.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=LeafGreen|entry=It spits fire that is hot enough to melt boulders. It may cause forest fires by blowing flames.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen/2|gen=IV|reg1=Sinnoh|reg2=Johto|num2=236}}
{{Dex/Entry3|v=Diamond|v2=Pearl|v3=Platinum|entry=It is said that Charizard's fire burns hotter if it has experienced harsh battles.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=HeartGold|entry=If Charizard becomes furious, the flame at the tip of its tail flares up in a whitish-blue color.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=SoulSilver|entry=Breathing intense, hot flames, it can melt almost anything. Its breath inflicts terrible pain on enemies.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen/1|gen=V|reg1=Unova}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black|v2=White|t=FFF|entry=It is said that Charizard's fire burns hotter if it has experienced harsh battles.}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black 2|v2=White 2|t=FFF|entry=It is said that Charizard's fire burns hotter if it has experienced harsh battles.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen/2|gen=VI|reg1=Kalos|num1=085|label1=Central|reg2=Hoenn}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=X|t=FFF|entry=When expelling a blast of superhot fire, the red flame at the tip of its tail burns more intensely.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Y|entry=Its wings can carry this Pokémon close to an altitude of {{tt|4,600 feet|1,400 meters}}. It blows out fire at very high temperatures.}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Omega Ruby|v2=Alpha Sapphire|t=FFF|t2=FFF|entry=Charizard flies around the sky in search of powerful opponents. It breathes fire of such great heat that it melts anything. However, it never turns its fiery breath on any opponent weaker than itself.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen/2|gen=VII|reg1=Alola|reg2=Kanto|num2=006}}
{{Template:Dex/NE|[[Pokémon Sun and Moon|Sun, Moon]], [[Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon]]}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Let's Go Pikachu|v2=Let's Go Eevee|entry=When this Pokémon expels a blast of superhot fire, the red flame at the tip of its tails burns more intensely.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen/1|gen=VIII|reg1=Galar|num1=380}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Sword|entry=It spits fire that is hot enough to melt boulders. It may cause forest fires by blowing flames.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Shield|entry=Its wings can carry this Pokémon close to an altitude of {{tt|4,600 feet|1,400 meters}}. It blows out fire at very high temperatures.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Footer}}

====Mega Charizard X====
{{Dex/Header|type=Fire|type2=Dragon}}
{{Dex/NA|gen=VI}}
{{Dex/Gen/2|gen=VI|reg1=Kalos|num1=085|label1=Central|reg2=Hoenn}}
{{Template:Dex/NE|[[Generation VI]]}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen/2|gen=VII|reg1=Alola|reg2=Kanto|num2=006}}
{{Template:Dex/NE|[[Pokémon Sun and Moon|Sun, Moon]], [[Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon]]}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Let's Go Pikachu|v2=Let's Go Eevee|entry=The overwhelming power that fills its entire body causes it to turn black and create intense blue flames.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen/1|gen=VIII|reg1=Galar}}
{{Dex/NE|[[Generation VIII]]}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Footer}}

====Mega Charizard Y====
{{Dex/Header|type=Fire|type2=Flying}}
{{Dex/NA|gen=VI}}
{{Dex/Gen/2|gen=VI|reg1=Kalos|num1=085|label1=Central|reg2=Hoenn}}
{{Template:Dex/NE|[[Generation VI]]}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen/2|gen=VII|reg1=Alola|reg2=Kanto|num2=006}}
{{Template:Dex/NE|[[Pokémon Sun and Moon|Sun, Moon]], [[Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon]]}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Let's Go Pikachu|v2=Let's Go Eevee|entry=Its bond with its Trainer is the source of its power. It boasts speed and maneuverability greater than that of a jet fighter.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen/1|gen=VIII|reg1=Galar}}
{{Dex/NE|[[Generation VIII]]}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Footer}}

====Gigantamax Charizard====
{{Dex/Header|type=Fire|type2=Flying}}
{{Dex/NA|gen=VIII}}
{{Dex/Gen/1|gen=VIII|reg1=Galar|num1=380}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Sword|entry=This colossal, flame-winged figure of a Charizard was brought about by Gigantamax energy.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Shield|entry=The flame inside its body burns hotter than 3,600 degrees Fahrenheit. When Charizard roars, that temperature climbs even higher.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Footer}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability/Header|type=Fire|type2=Flying}}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=I}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=Red|v2=Blue|t2=FFF|area=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Charmeleon}}}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=Blue|ex=(Japan)|t=FFF|link=Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|area=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Charmeleon}}}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=Yellow|area=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Charmeleon}}}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=II}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Gold|v2=Silver|area=[[Time Capsule]]}}
{{Availability/Entry1/None|v=Crystal|area=[[Time Capsule]]}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=III}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Ruby|v2=Sapphire}}
{{Availability/Entry1/None|v=Emerald}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=FireRed|v2=LeafGreen|area=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Charmeleon}}}}
{{Availability/Entry1/None|v=Colosseum}}
{{Availability/Entry1/None|v=XD|link=Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=IV}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Diamond|v2=Pearl}}
{{Availability/Entry1/None|v=Platinum}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=HeartGold|v2=SoulSilver|area=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Charmeleon}}}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=Pal Park|color=A2E0A3|link=Pal Park|area={{DL|List of Pokémon by Pal Park location|Field}}}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=V}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Black|v2=White|area=[[Poké Transfer]]}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Black 2|v2=White 2|area=[[Poké Transfer]]}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=VI}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=X|v2=Y|t=fff|area=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Charmeleon}}}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Omega Ruby|v2=Alpha Sapphire|area=[[Trade]], {{pkmn2|Event}}}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=VII}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Sun|v2=Moon}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=Ultra Sun|v2=Ultra Moon|area=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Charmeleon}}}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=Let's Go Pikachu|v2=Let's Go Eevee|area=[[Route]]s {{rtn|1|Kanto}}, {{rtn|2|Kanto}}, {{rtn|3|Kanto}}, {{rtn|4|Kanto}}, {{rtn|6|Kanto}}, {{rtn|7|Kanto}}, {{rtn|8|Kanto}}, {{rtn|9|Kanto}}, {{rtn|10|Kanto}}, {{rtn|11|Kanto}}, {{rtn|12|Kanto}}, {{rtn|13|Kanto}}, {{rtn|14|Kanto}}, {{rtn|15|Kanto}}, {{rtn|16|Kanto}}, {{rtn|17|Kanto}}, {{rtn|18|Kanto}}, {{rtn|19|Kanto}}, {{rtn|21|Kanto}}, {{rtn|22|Kanto}}, {{rtn|23|Kanto}}, {{rtn|24|Kanto}}, and {{rtn|25|Kanto}}}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=VIII}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=Sword|v2=Shield|area=[[Hammerlocke Hills]] ([[Max Raid Battle]])}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Footer}}

====[[Gigantamax]] Charizard====
{{Availability/Header|type=Fire|type2=Flying}}
{{Availability/NA|gen=VIII}}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=VIII}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=Sword|v2=Shield|area=[[Lake of Outrage]] ([[Max Raid Battle]])}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Footer}}

====In side games====
{{Availability/Header|type=Fire|type2=Flying}}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=I}}
{{Availability/Entry1|1|v=Snap|color={{electric color}}|area=[[Pokémon Island Volcano|Volcano]]}}
{{Availability/Entry1|1|v=Pinball|color={{red color}}|area=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Charmeleon}}}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=II}}
{{Availability/NA/Side|gen=II}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=III}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=Trozei!|color={{yellow color}}|area=Endless Level 23, Forever Level 72, Pair Trozei, [[Mr. Who's Den]]}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=MD Red|v2=MD Blue|link=Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|area=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Charmeleon}}}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=Ranger|link=Pokémon Ranger (game)|area=[[Jungle Relic]] (during mission), [[Sekra Range]] (during mission)}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=IV}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=MD Time|v2=MD Darkness|link=Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|area=[[Spacial Rift]] (B1F-B15F, Deep Spacial Rift B1F-B9F), Deep [[Dark Crater]] (B6F-B14F)}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=MD Sky|link=Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|area=[[Spacial Rift]] (B1F-B15F, Deep Spacial Rift B1F-B9F), Deep [[Dark Crater]] (B6F-B14F)}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=Ranger: SoA|color={{SoA color}}|link=Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia|area=[[Volcano Cave]]
}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=Rumble|color={{fire color}}|area=[[Fiery Furnace]] (Normal Mode A & S)}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=PokéPark Wii|color={{grass color}}|link=PokéPark Wii: Pikachu's Adventure|area=[[Granite Zone]]}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=Ranger: GS|color={{GS color}}|link=Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs|area=[[Rand's House]]}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=V}}
{{Availability/Entry1|1|v=Rumble Blast|color={{fire color}}|area=Cave: [[Everspring Valley]]}}
{{Availability/Entry1|1|v=Conquest|color={{silver color}}|area=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Charmeleon}}}}
{{Availability/Entry1|1|v=Rumble U|color={{fire color}}|area=[[Dream Gate#Flame Dance|Dream Gate: Flame Dance]] (Boss), [[Variety Battle#A Battle in the Tower|Variety Battle: A Battle in the Tower]]}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=VI}}
{{Availability/Entry1|1|v=Battle Trozei|color={{defense color}}|area=[[Blade-and-Shield Path#Stage 5|Blade-and-Shield Path: Stage 5]]}}
{{Availability/Entry1|1|v=Shuffle|color={{beauty color}}|area=[[Expert Stages|Expert Stage: Stage EX9]]}}
{{Availability/Entry1|1|v=Rumble World|color={{fire color}}|area=[[Ember Mountains#Furnace Mountain|Ember Mountains: Furnace Mountain]] (Back Boss)}}

{{Availability/Entry1|1|v=Picross|color={{skill color light}}|area=[[Pokémon Picross Stages#Area 28|Area 28: Stage 09]]}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Footer}}

====In events====
{{eventAvail/h|Language/Region|type=Fire|type2=Flying|expand=yes}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev2|GSC}}|Gotta Catch 'Em All Station! Charizard|English|United States|40{{shinystar|II}}|March 15 to 21, 2002 September 27 to October 3, 2002 February 14 to 20, 2003|link=List of Gotta Catch 'Em All event Pokémon#Shiny Charizard}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|RSEFRLG}}|Journey Across America Charizard|English|United States|70|February 25 to July 23, 2006|link=List of Journey Across America event Pokémon distributions#Charizard}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|RSEFRLG}}|Top 10 Distribution Charizard|English|United Kingdom|70|June 10, 2006 October 14 to November 19, 2006|link=List of English event Pokémon distributions in Generation III#Charizard}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|RSEFRLG}}|Top 10 Distribution Charizard|Italian|Italy|70|June 23 to 25, 2006|link=List of Italian event Pokémon distributions in Generation III#Charizard}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|RSEFRLG}}|Top 10 Distribution Charizard|Spanish|Spain|70|June 27 to August 27, 2006|link=List of Spanish event Pokémon distributions in Generation III#Charizard}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|RSEFRLG}}|Party of the Decade Charizard|English|United States|70|August 8, 2006|link=List of Party of the Decade event Pokémon distributions#Charizard}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|RSEFRLG}}|Top 10 Distribution Charizard|German|Germany|70|September 24 to November 5, 2006|link=List of German event Pokémon distributions in Generation III#Charizard}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|RSEFRLG}}|Top 10 Distribution Charizard|French|France|70|September 26, 2006|link=List of French event Pokémon distributions in Generation III#Charizard}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev6|X}}|CoroCoro Charizardite Y Charizard|Japanese region|Online|36|March 15 to August 29, 2014|link=List of Japanese region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Charizardite Y Charizard_2}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev6|Y}}|CoroCoro Charizardite X Charizard|Japanese region|Online|36|March 15 to August 29, 2014|link=List of Japanese region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Charizardite X Charizard_2}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev6|X}}|Olleh TV Charizardite Y Charizard|Korean region|Online|36|April 11 to May 31, 2014|link=List of Korean region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Charizardite Y Charizard}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev6|Y}}|Olleh TV Charizardite X Charizard|Korean region|Online|36|April 11 to May 31, 2014|link=List of Korean region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Charizardite X Charizard}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev6|X}}|GAME 2014 Charizardite Y Charizard|PAL region|Online|36|July 11 to August 10, 2014|link=List of PAL region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Charizardite Y Charizard_3}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev6|Y}}|GAME 2014 Charizardite X Charizard|PAL region|Online|36|July 11 to August 10, 2014|link=List of PAL region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Charizardite X Charizard_3}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev6|X}}|Olleh TV Charizardite Y Charizard|All|South Korea|36|July 26, 2014|link=List of local event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Charizardite Y Charizard}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev6|Y}}|Olleh TV Charizardite X Charizard|All|South Korea|36|July 26, 2014|link=List of local event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Charizardite X Charizard}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev6|X}}|XY Charizardite Y Charizard|Japanese region|Online|36|July 29 to October 31, 2014|link=List of Japanese region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Charizardite Y Charizard}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev6|Y}}|XY Charizardite X Charizard|Japanese region|Online|36|July 29 to October 31, 2014|link=List of Japanese region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Charizardite X Charizard}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev6|X}}|XY Charizardite Y Charizard|PAL region|Online|36|July 29 to October 31, 2014|link=List of PAL region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Charizardite Y Charizard_2}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev6|Y}}|XY Charizardite X Charizard|PAL region|Online|36|July 29 to October 31, 2014|link=List of PAL region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Charizardite X Charizard_2}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev6|X}}|XY Charizardite Y Charizard|Taiwanese region|Online|36|July 29 to October 31, 2014|link=List of Taiwanese region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Charizardite Y Charizard}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev6|Y}}|XY Charizardite X Charizard|Taiwanese region|Online|36|July 29 to October 31, 2014|link=List of Taiwanese region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Charizardite X Charizard}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev6|X}}|GameStop 2014 Charizardite Y Charizard|PAL region|Online|36|August 15, 2014 to January 15, 2015|link=List of PAL region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Charizardite Y Charizard}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev6|Y}}|GameStop 2014 Charizardite X Charizard|PAL region|Online|36|August 15, 2014 to January 15, 2015|link=List of PAL region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Charizardite X Charizard}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev6|XYORAS}}|Pokémon Center Mega Tokyo Charizard|All|Japan|36{{shinystar|VI}}|December 11, 2014 December 12, 2014 to January 16, 2015|link=List of local event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Charizard_2}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev6|XYORAS}}|Spring 2015 Charizard|PAL region|Online|36{{shinystar|VI}}|March 21 to July 19, 2015|link=List of PAL region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Spring 2015 Charizard}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev6|ORAS}}|Olleh TV Charizard|Korean region|Online|36{{shinystar|VI}}|May 10 to June 14, 2015|link=List of Korean region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#2015 Olleh TV Charizard}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev6|ORAS}}|Pokémon Mega Battle Festival Charizard|All|South Korea|36{{shinystar|VI}}|August 8 to 9, 2015|link=List of local event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Pokémon Mega Battle Festival Charizard}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev6|XYORAS}}|Pokémon EXPO Gym Charizard|Japanese region|Online|36|November 19, 2015 to May 31, 2016|link=List of Japanese region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Charizard_2}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev6|ORAS}}|Pokémon Center Hiroshima Charizard|All|Japan|36{{shinystar|VI}}|January 1 to 31, 2016|link=List of local event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Charizard}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev6|XYORAS}}|Pokémon Scrap Charizard|Japanese region|Online|100|April 28 to August 31, 2016|link=List of Japanese region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Charizard}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev7|SM}}|CoroCoro Charizard|Japanese region|Online|40|March 15 to May 14, 2017|link=List of Japanese region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VII#CoroCoro Charizard}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev7|SM}}|Ash's Charizard|Japanese region|Online|40|August 1 to 28, 2017|link=List of Japanese region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VII#Ash's Charizard}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev7|SM}}|Ash's Charizard|All|Japan|40|August 22 to September 3, 2017|link=List of local event Pokémon distributions in Generation VII#Ash's Charizard}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev7|SM}}|Bullseye Charizard|American region|Online|50|October 1, 2017 to February 4, 2018|link=List of American region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VII#Bullseye Charizard}}
|}

===Held items===
{{HeldItems
|type=Fire|type2=Flying
|rby1=Bitter Berry|rby1type=None|rby1rar=100|rby1image=no
|event1=Charizardite X|event1type=None|event1rar=100
|event2=Charizardite Y|event2type=None|event2rar=100
|event3=Red Card|event3type=None|event3rar=100
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
=====Charizard=====
{{Stats
|type=Fire
|type2=Flying
|HP=78
|Attack=84
|Defense=78
|SpAtk=109
|SpDef=85
|Speed=100
|Special=85
}}

=====Mega Charizard X=====
{{Stats
|type=Fire
|type2=Dragon
|HP=78
|Attack=130
|Defense=111
|SpAtk=130
|SpDef=85
|Speed=100
}}

=====Mega Charizard Y=====
{{Base Stats
|type=Fire
|type2=Flying
|HP=78
|Attack=104
|Defense=78
|SpAtk=159
|SpDef=115
|Speed=100
}}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|type=Fire
|type2=Flying
|Speed=3
|SpeedMax=3
|Power=3
|PowerMax=3
|Technique=2
|TechniqueMax=2
|Stamina=4
|StaminaMax=5
|Jump=5
|JumpMax=5
}}

===Type effectiveness===
=====Charizard and Mega Charizard Y=====
{{TypeEffectiveness
|type1=Fire
|type2=Flying
|Normal=100
|Fighting=50
|Flying=100
|Poison=100
|Ground=0
|Rock=400
|Bug=25
|Ghost=100
|Steel=50
|Fire=50
|Water=200
|Grass=25
|Electric=200
|Psychic=100
|Ice=100
|Dragon=100
|Dark=100
|Fairy=50
|notes=yes
|gen1fire=yes
|flying=ironballiv
|newground=2
|oldice=2
}}

=====Mega Charizard X=====
{{TypeEffectiveness
|type1=Fire
|type2=Dragon
|Normal=100
|Fighting=100
|Flying=100
|Poison=100
|Ground=200
|Rock=200
|Bug=50
|Ghost=100
|Steel=50
|Fire=25
|Water=100
|Grass=25
|Electric=50
|Psychic=100
|Ice=100
|Dragon=200
|Dark=100
|Fairy=100
}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh/8|Charizard|Fire|Flying|1}}
{{learnlist/level8|1|Air Slash|Flying|Special|75|95|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level8|1|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/level8|1|Heat Wave|Fire|Special|95|90|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level8|1|Scratch|Normal|Physical|40|100|35}}
{{learnlist/level8|1|Growl|Normal|Status|—|100|40}}
{{learnlist/level8|1|Ember|Fire|Special|40|100|25||'''}}
{{learnlist/level8|1|Smokescreen|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level8|{{tt|Evo.|Learned upon evolving}}|Air Slash|Flying|Special|75|95|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level8|12|Dragon Breath|Dragon|Special|60|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level8|19|Fire Fang|Fire|Physical|65|95|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level8|24|Slash|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level8|30|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|90|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level8|39|Scary Face|Normal|Status|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/level8|46|Fire Spin|Fire|Special|35|85|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level8|54|Inferno|Fire|Special|100|50|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/level8|62|Flare Blitz|Fire|Physical|120|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelf/8|Charizard|Fire|Flying|1}}

====By [[TM]]/[[TR]]====
{{learnlist/tmh/8|Charizard|Fire|Flying|1}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM00|Mega Punch|Normal|Physical|80|85|20}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM01|Mega Kick|Normal|Physical|120|75|5}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM03|Fire Punch|Fire|Physical|75|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM05|Thunder Punch|Electric|Physical|75|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM06|Fly|Flying|Physical|90|95|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM08|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM09|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM11|Solar Beam|Grass|Special|120|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM13|Fire Spin|Fire|Special|35|85|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM15|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM21|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM22|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM24|Snore|Normal|Special|50|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM25|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM26|Scary Face|Normal|Status|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM30|Steel Wing|Steel|Physical|70|90|25}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM31|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM34|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM37|Beat Up|Dark|Physical|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM38|Will-O-Wisp|Fire|Status|—|85|15}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM39|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM40|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM41|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM43|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM46|Weather Ball|Normal|Special|50|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM48|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|60|95|15}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM59|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM65|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM68|Fire Fang|Fire|Physical|65|95|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM76|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM78|Acrobatics|Flying|Physical|55|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM81|Bulldoze|Ground|Physical|60|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM92|Mystical Fire|Fire|Special|75|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM94|False Swipe|Normal|Physical|40|100|40}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM95|Air Slash|Flying|Special|75|95|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM97|Brutal Swing|Dark|Physical|60|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm8|TM99|Breaking Swipe|Dragon|Physical|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR00|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR01|Body Slam|Normal|Physical|85|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR02|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|90|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR10|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR15|Fire Blast|Fire|Special|110|85|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR20|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR24|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|120|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR26|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR27|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR31|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|100|75|15}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR32|Crunch|Dark|Physical|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR36|Heat Wave|Fire|Special|95|90|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR41|Blaze Kick|Fire|Physical|85|90|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR43|Overheat|Fire|Special|130|90|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR47|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR51|Dragon Dance|Dragon|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR55|Flare Blitz|Fire|Physical|120|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR62|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|85|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR64|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR85|Work Up|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR88|Heat Crash|Fire|Physical|—|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tr|TR89|Hurricane|Flying|Special|110|70|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tmf/8|Charizard|Fire|Flying|1}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh/8|Charizard|Fire|Flying|2}}
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|131|Lapras}}|Ancient Power|Rock|Special|60|100|5|*}}
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|143|Snorlax}}{{MSP|784|Kommo-o}}|Belly Drum|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|007|Squirtle}}{{MSP|008|Wartortle}}{{MSP|009|Blastoise}}{{MSP|130|Gyarados}}{{MSP|143|Snorlax}}{{MSP|246|Larvitar}} {{MSP|247|Pupitar}}{{MSP|248|Tyranitar}}{{MSP|328|Trapinch}}{{MSP|329|Vibrava}}{{MSP|330|Flygon}}{{MSP|610|Axew}} {{MSP|611|Fraxure}}{{MSP|612|Haxorus}}{{MSP|633|Deino}}{{MSP|634|Zweilous}}{{MSP|635|Hydreigon}}{{MSP|712|Bergmite}} {{MSP|713|Avalugg}}{{MSP|714|Noibat}}{{MSP|715|Noivern}}{{MSP|833|Chewtle}}{{MSP|834|Drednaw}}{{MSP|885|Dreepy}} {{MSP|886|Drakloak}}{{MSP|887|Dragapult}}|Bite|Dark|Physical|60|100|25}}
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|833|Chewtle}}{{MSP|834|Drednaw}}|Counter|Fighting|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|329|Vibrava}}{{MSP|330|Flygon}}{{MSP|633|Deino}}{{MSP|634|Zweilous}}{{MSP|635|Hydreigon}}{{MSP|841|Flapple}} {{MSP|886|Drakloak}}{{MSP|887|Dragapult}}|Dragon Rush|Dragon|Physical|100|75|10}}
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|329|Vibrava}}{{MSP|330|Flygon}}{{MSP|350|Milotic}}{{MSP|782|Jangmo-o}}{{MSP|783|Hakamo-o}}{{MSP|784|Kommo-o}} {{MSP|884|Duraludon}}|Dragon Tail|Dragon|Physical|60|90|10}}
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|884|Duraludon}}|Metal Claw|Steel|Physical|50|95|35}}
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|714|Noibat}}{{MSP|715|Noivern}}{{MSP|841|Flapple}}|Wing Attack|Flying|Physical|60|100|35||'''}}
{{learnlist/breedf/8|Charizard|Fire|Flying|2}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh/8|Charizard|Fire|Flying|2}}
{{learnlist/tutor8|Blast Burn|Fire|Special|150|90|5||'''|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor8|Fire Pledge|Fire|Special|80|100|10||'''|yes||'''}}
{{learnlist/tutorf/8|Charizard|Fire|Flying|2}}

====By a prior [[evolution]]====
{{learnlist/prevoh/8|Charizard|Fire|Flying|1}}
{{learnlist/prevo8null}}
{{learnlist/prevof/8|Charizard|Fire|Flying|1}}

====[[Anime move errors|Anime-only moves]]====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{fire color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{flying color}}"
! Move
! Type
! Episode
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{m|Tackle}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}"| ''[[EP108|Pokémon Double Trouble]]''
|}

===Side game data===
{{Spindata/Head|type=Fire|type2=Flying}}
{{Spindata/Pinball|col=3|type=Fire|ndex=006|acquisition=Evolve|evolved=yes}}
{{Spindata/Trozei|col=3|type=Fire|ndex=006|rarity=Rare}}
|-
{{Spindata/MDRB|col=6|type=Fire|ndex=006
|body=1
|rate=Evolve
|area=Mt. Cleft
|P1=Leave it to me! I'll raze everything!
|P2=My body's cooling down. My health is down to half.
|P3=I can't... There's no power left in my flame...
|PL=I leveled up! My flame is burning even hotter now!
}}
|-
{{Spindata/MDTDS|col=6|type=Fire|ndex=006
|body=1
|rate=-12
|IQ=C
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Ranger|col=6|type=Fire
|group=Fire
|assist=Fire
|fieldpower=3
|field=Burn
|loop=11
|num=142
|browser=Charizard breathes super-hot flames that melt ice and incinerate even steel.
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Ranger SoA|col=6|type=Fire
|group=Fire
|assist=Fire
|field=Burn
|fieldpower=4
|num=139
|browser=It spits blobs of fire. It also lets loose expanding rings of fire to attack.
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Ranger GS|col=6|type=Fire
|group=Fire
|assist=Fire
|field=Crush
|fieldpower=4
|past=NA
|num=208
|browser=It attacks by launching fireballs as it flies around quickly.
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Rumble|col=3|type=Fire
|att=4
|def=3
|speed=4
}}
{{Spindata/RumbleBlast|col=3|type=Fire
|att=4
|def=3
|speed=4
}}
|-
{{Spindata/PokéPark|col=6|type=Fire|ndex=006
|Pad=Charizard values the ancient promise in the [[Granite Zone]]. Watch him whoosh through the sky playing {{DL|Attractions|Salamence's Air Ace}}.
}}
|-
{{Spindata/PokéPark2|col=6|type=Fire|ndex=006
|strong=[[File:Pikachu icon.png|link=Pikachu (Pokémon)]][[File:Oshawott icon.png|link=Oshawott (Pokémon)]]
|weak=[[File:Snivy icon.png|link=Snivy (Pokémon)]][[File:Tepig icon.png|link=Tepig (Pokémon)]]
|pad=He loves nature and the Pokémon in the Arcane Area. He wants to protect the Arcane Area.
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Conquest|col=6|type=Fire|ndex=006
|HP=3
|atk=4
|def=3
|spd=4
|range=2
|move=Flamethrower
|ability1=Blaze
|ability2=Hero
|ability3=Last Bastion
|evo=Evolves from {{p|Charmeleon}} when its Attack is 83 or higher
|link={{DL|List of Pokémon Conquest characters|Masakage}} and '''[[Yukimura]]'''
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Battle Trozei|col=6|type=Fire|ndex=006
|power=3
|skill=Power of Five
|skilldesc=Increases the damage dealt by matching five Pokémon.
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Shuffle|col=6|type=Fire|ndex=006|num=006
|mega=2
|stone=Charizardite
|M1=X
|M2=Y
|min=60
|max=135
|raisemaxlevel=20
|skill=Burn
|skilldesc=Leaves the foe burned.
|megaspeedup=13/3
|effectdesc=Mega Charizard X: Erases all Pokémon in an X-shaped pattern. Mega Charizard Y: Erases all Pokémon in a Y-shaped pattern.
|swapper=Unity Power
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Shuffle|col=6|type=Fire|ndex=006S|stype=Flying|num=006
|mega=2
|stone=Charizardite
|M1=X
|M2=Y
|min=60
|max=105
|raisemaxlevel=5
|skill=Nosedive
|skilldesc=Sometimes deals a lot more damage.
|megaspeedup=15/5
|effectdesc=Mega Charizard X: Erases Pokémon and disruptions around two spots you tap. Mega Charizard Y: Erases a jagged line of Pokémon vertically.
}}
|-
{{Spindata/GO|col=6|type=Fire|ndex=006
|hatch=N/A
|buddy=3
|candy=Charmander
|evolution=N/A
|stamina=186
|attack=223
|defense=173
|fast={{m|Fire Spin}}{{tt|*|From February 16, 2017 onward}}, {{m|Air Slash}}{{tt|*|From February 16, 2017 onward}}, {{m|Ember}}{{tt|†|Prior to February 16, 2017}}, {{m|Wing Attack}}{{tt|†|Prior to February 16, 2017}}
|special={{m|Fire Blast}}, {{m|Dragon Claw}}, {{m|Overheat}}{{tt|*|From February 16, 2017 onward}}, {{m|Blast Burn}}{{tt|†|Event-exclusive from Charmander Community Day and Clone Charizard raids}}, {{m|Flamethrower}}{{tt|†|Prior to February 16, 2017}}, {{m|Return}}{{tt|‡|As Purified Pokémon}}, {{m|Frustration}}{{tt|‡|As Shadow Pokémon}}
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Magikarp Jump|col=6|type=Fire|ranks=1
|item=Charcoal
|cost=600
|skill=Gives a great item
|recoverytime=12 hours
|rank1desc=One random {{tt|great item|Training Soda, Power Up, LP Restore, Skill Restore, Purse of Coins, Sack of Coins, Mountain of Coins}}
}}
|}
{{-}}
{| style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{fire color}}; {{roundy|10px}} border: 3px solid #{{fire color dark}}"
|+ '''Event forms in {{g|GO}}'''
|-
| style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{fire color dark}}; background: #{{fire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:GO006Cl.png|100px]]
|- style="font-size:80%"
| Clone
|}

===Evolution===
{{Evobox-3
|type1=Fire
|type2=Flying
|pictype=art
|no1=004
|name1=Charmander
|type1-1=Fire
|evo1={{bag|Rare Candy}} {{color2|000|Level|Level 16}}
|no2=005
|name2=Charmeleon
|type1-2=Fire
|evo2={{bag|Rare Candy}} {{color2|000|Level|Level 36}}
|no3=006
|name3=Charizard
|type1-3=Fire
|type2-3=Flying}}

===Forms===
====Mega Evolution====
{{evobox/Formes
|sprite1=006Charizard-Mega X
|name1=Charizard
|type1-1=Fire
|type2-1=Dragon
|forme1=Mega Charizard X
|item1=Charizardite X
|sprite2=006Charizard
|name2=Charizard
|type1-2=Fire
|type2-2=Flying
|forme2=Charizard
|item2=Charizardite Y
|sprite3=006Charizard-Mega Y
|name3=Mega Charizard Y
|type1-3=Fire
|type2-3=Flying
|forme3=Mega Charizard Y
}}

====Gigantamax====
{{Evobox/Formes
|loc1=[[File:Dynamax icon.png|link=Gigantamax]] {{color2|000|Gigantamax|Gigantamax Factor}}
|sprite1=006Charizard
|name1=Charizard
|type1-1=Fire
|type2-1=Flying
|forme1=Charizard
|loc2=Lasts for three turns
|sprite2=006Charizard-Gigantamax
|forme2=Gigantamax Charizard
|item1=Dynamax Band
}}

===Sprites===
{{Spritebox/Header|type=Fire|type2=Flying}}
{{Spritebox/1|ndex=006}}
{{Spritebox/2|ndex=006}}
{{Spritebox/3|ndex=006}}
{{Spritebox/4|ndex=006}}
{{Spritebox/5|ndex=006}}
{{Spritebox/6/3Forms|ndex=006|form1=MX|form2=MY}}
{{Spritebox/7/3Forms|ndex=006|form1=MX|form2=MY}}
{{Spritebox/Footer|006|Charizard}}

====Other sprites====
{| style="margin:auto; text-align:center; font-size: 80%; {{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{fire color dark}}; background: #{{fire color}}"
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{flying color dark}}; background: #{{flying color light}}; width:150px"| [[File:Spr 3f Charizard credits.png]]
|-
| FireRed/LeafGreen credits
|}

==Trivia==
* Prior to [[Generation VI]], Charizard and Rhyhorn shared nearly the same cry. This cry was updated and reused for Mega Charizard Y.
* Charizard and its pre-evolved form share their {{pkmn|category}} name with {{p|Flareon}}, {{p|Moltres}}, and {{p|Infernape}}. They are all known as the Flame Pokémon.
* Charizard holds the distinction of being the first Pokémon to appear in the Japanese version of the [[Pokémon anime]], as it is the first one to appear in the opening. However, outside of Japan, {{p|Mewtwo}} is the first to appear.
* Charizard is the only Pokémon in the [[Super Smash Bros.]] series that transitioned from a {{i|Poké Ball}} Pokémon to a playable character.
* Charizard, {{p|Typhlosion}}, and their respective evolutionary lines have the exact same base stats.
* Charizard was the focus of a [[Charizard Pokémon Center promotion (2010)|Pokémon Center promotion]] in April 2010.
* Mega Charizard Y has the highest base {{stat|Special Attack}} stat of all {{type|Fire}} Pokémon and has the highest {{stat|Special Attack}} stat of all non-legendary {{type|Flying}} Pokémon.
* Charizard was [[List of references to Pokémon in popular culture|the inspiration for the naming]] of ''Chilicola charizard'', a species of stem-nesting bees.<ref name="Real-life taxonomic influence">[http://zookeys.pensoft.net/articles.php?id=7731 A revision of ''Chilicola'' (''Heteroediscelis''), a subgenus of xeromelissine bees (Hymenoptera, Colletidae) endemic to Chile: taxonomy, phylogeny, and biogeography, with descriptions of eight new species]</ref>
[[File:Pokémon Gallery Encounter with Shining.png|thumb|250px|"Pokémon Gallery: Encounter with Shiny Pokémon" by [[Ken Sugimori]]]]
* Charizard is the only Pokémon not in the [[Alola Pokédex]] to be a [[Poké Ride|Ride Pokémon]] in {{pkmn|Sun and Moon}} (where it is unobtainable via normal gameplay) and {{pkmn|Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon}}. It is the only non-Galar starter Pokémon to be in the [[Galar Pokédex]] in the base game of {{pkmn|Sword and Shield}}.
* Because of its beauty and elegance, [[Driftveil Drawbridge]] is also referred to as Charizard Bridge.
* Charizard is [[Atsuko Nishida]]'s favorite Pokémon.
* Charizard and Mewtwo are the only Pokémon with two Mega Evolved forms.
* In the Pokémon of the Year poll held by [[The Pokémon Company]] in 2020, Charizard was voted the most popular [[Generation I]] Pokémon, receiving 93,968 votes. It was also the fourth-most popular Pokémon overall.
* The current design of a {{Shiny}} Charizard was first seen in an official art from 2001, between the releases of {{game|Crystal}} and {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}.

===Origin===
Charizard may be based on {{wp|European dragon}}s, which are heavily associated with the element of fire in {{wp|European folklore}}; this draconic appearance would later be reflected in the {{2t|Fire|Dragon}} typing of Mega Charizard X. Like its pre-evolved forms, it may also take inspiration from lizards, dinosaurs and the mythical {{wp|Salamanders in folklore|salamander}} .

====Name origin====
Charizard may be a combination of ''char'' (to burn) and ''lizard''.

Lizardon may be a combination of ''lizard'' and either ''dragon'' or ''don'' (Ancient Greek for ''tooth'', commonly used in {{wp|dinosaur}} names).

==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=Fire|type2=Flying
|ja=リザードン ''Lizardon''|jameaning=From {{tt|リザード ''rizādo''|lizard}} and {{tt|ドン ''don''|tooth in Ancient Greek, commonly used in dinosaur names}} or {{tt|ドン ''don''|boss}}
|fr=Dracaufeu|frmeaning=From ''{{tt|draco|Latin for dragon}}'' and ''{{tt|au feu !|there's a fire!}}''
|es=Charizard|esmeaning=Same as English name
|de=Glurak|demeaning=From ''{{tt|Glut|ember, also the German translation for the move Ember}}'' and ''{{tt|Drache|dragon}} and/or {{tt|Rakete|rocket}}''
|it=Charizard|itmeaning=Same as English name
|ko=리자몽 ''Rizamon''|komeaning=From {{tt|리자드 ''rijadeu''|lizard}} and {{tt|몬스터 ''monseuteo''|monster}}
|zh_yue=噴火龍 ''Pānfólùhng''|zh_yuemeaning=From {{tt|噴火 ''panfó''|Flame-shooting}} and {{tt|龍 ''lùhng''|dragon}}
|zh_cmn=噴火龍 / 喷火龙 ''Pēnhuǒlóng''|zh_cmnmeaning=From {{tt|噴火 / 喷火 ''pēnhuǒ''|Flame-shooting}} and {{tt|龍 / 龙 ''lóng''|dragon}}
|bg=Чаризард ''Charizard''|bgmeaning=Transcription of English name
|ar=تشاريزارد ''Charizard''|armeaning=Transcription of English name
|el=Τσάριζαρτ ''Tsárizart''|elmeaning=Transcription of English name
|he=צ'אריזארד ''Charizard''|hemeaning=Transcription of English name
|hi=चारीज़ार्द ''Charizard''|himeaning=Transcription of English name
|id=Karizar {{tt|*|Pokémon Pocket Monsters only}}|idmeaning=Corruption of English name
|lv=Čarizard|lvmeaning=From English name
|lt=Žavizardas|ltmeaning=From English name
|ru=Чаризард ''Charizard''|rumeaning=Transcription of English name
|th=ลิซาร์ดอน ''Lizardon''|thmeaning=Transcription of trademarked Japanese name
}}
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==Related articles==
{|width=100%|
| style="vertical-align:top" width=50% |
* [[Ash's Charizard]]
* [[Kiawe's Charizard]]
* [[Zippo]]
* [[Charla]]
* [[Alain's Charizard]]
* [[Trevor's Charizard]]
* [[Satoshi's Charizard (Zensho)]]
* [[Blue's Charizard]]
| style="vertical-align:top" width=50% |
* [[Salamè]]
* [[Red's Charizard]]
* [[Green's Charizard]]
* [[Team A.C.T.]]
* [[Charizard (Super Smash Bros.)]]
* [[Pokémon Trainer (Super Smash Bros.)]]
* [[Starter Pokémon]]
* [[Mega Evolution]]
* [[Gigantamax]]
|}

==Notes==
<references />

==External links==
* {{wp|Charizard|Article on Wikipedia}}
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Talk:Ash Ketchum (M20)

2020-04-21T02:25:11Z

SeanWheeler: /* Move? (Continued) */

==Butterfree Release==
So I was informed that Pokemon don't count as "owned" if caught for less than one episode. In that case, doesn't M20 count as "one episode"? Butterfree shouldn't be listed as released.[[User:Muur1234|Muur1234]] ([[User talk:Muur1234|talk]]) 04:17, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
:I'd count movies differently since they are longer. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 05:54, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

== Move? ==

The "M20" in the page name doesn't really fit anymore, now that this version of Ash has also appeared in another movie. I suggest that it should be moved to "Ash Ketchum (movie)". Anybody agree? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:48, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
:While you're right, "Ash Ketchum (movie)" really isn't a good title because the original Ash has appeared in movies too. I'm not sure what would be a good title, maybe something like "Ash Ketchum (alternate continuity)" (also not the best, I admit...). In any case, this is something the staff needs to go over so anyone please hold off on moving. ☼ Blazing[[User talk:Blazingfist|Fist ☼]] 18:22, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
::Of course. I wasn't going to move this page without staff agreement, anyway. And I based the "movie" part on pages like [[Dialga (movie)]], [[Palkia (movie)]], and [[Giratina (movie)]], who, like this version of Ash, are recurring movie characters, who have appeared in more than one movie. Hope you can see where I'm coming from with this idea. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:35, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
:::Yes I can see your thought pattern. But these were all from the same continuity. This Ash is from a differrent continuity, and moving this page to "Ash Ketchum (movie)" would clash with the original Ash, as the title would suggest AU Ash is also the Ash from Movies 1 to 19. I'm not totally discarding your title proposal of course, but I wanna hear from others if they have different suggestions.☼ Blazing[[User talk:Blazingfist|Fist ☼]] 18:40, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
::::I suggest keeping the original title. "Ash Ketchum (alternate continuity)" sounds good, but we'll never know if they decide to introduce yet ''another'' alternate continuity featuring Ash in the future. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:54, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
:::::I'm also fine with that. As abcboy pointed out elsewhere, some pages for recurring characters have their debut epicode in the title. It would save a lot of hassle just keeping it the way it is. But keep suggestions coming. ☼ Blazing[[User talk:Blazingfist|Fist ☼]] 22:02, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
::::::I suggest removing every bit of information regarding M21 from this page. I don't know why we're discussing moving this page to a different title when we have zero proof that M20 and M21 are set in the same continuity. --[[User:Mikuri|'''Mi''']][[User talk: Mikuri|'''ku''']][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|'''ri''']] 00:00, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
:::::::We also seem to have zero proof that M20 and M21 are ''NOT'' set in the same continuity. Perhaps we need to do research first before considering such a move. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 02:28, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
{{indent}} Perhaps you need to research the meaning of ''onus probandi''. You have to present evidence that M20 Ash and M21 Ash are the same character, not the other way around. --[[User:Mikuri|'''Mi''']][[User talk: Mikuri|'''ku''']][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|'''ri''']] 02:41, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
:Well, I do not support such a move. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 02:43, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
::@Mikuri Instead of derailing the move conversation you could have started another topic but since you asked: when M21 was announced, a short snippet was released on pokemon.co.jp:

::“キミにきめた！”から始まった、新たな冒険。2018年のポケモン映画最新情報が、ついに解禁！
::Which translates to:
::''A new adventure, started by "I Choose You!". The latest info on the 2018 Pokemon movie is finally revealed!'' ☼ Blazing[[User talk:Blazingfist|Fist ☼]] 10:59, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
:::Oh and the snippet can be found on this page before the legitimacy is doubted: https://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/cat_anime/#page=1 ☼ Blazing[[User talk:Blazingfist|Fist ☼]] 14:14, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
: Why not "Ash Ketchum (I Choose You)" or "Ash Ketchum (ICY)" then? It's been done for characters with multiple incarnations like "Ash Ketchum (ETOP)" and "Red (Adventures)" for example. [[User:Shadao|Shadao]] ([[User talk:Shadao|talk]]) 03:48, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
::That sounds reasonable. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:55, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
:::Agreed with "Ash Ketchum (ICY)". --[[User:Sk8erPrince|Sk8erPrince]] ([[User talk:Sk8erPrince|talk]]) 10:51, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
::What is the actual difference between (M20) and (ICY)? The beginning of this discussion came from the fact that Ash has appeared in both movies. Changing M20 to ICY is both doing the same thing and confusing in my humble opinion. (→ [[User:Rockapheller|Rockapheller]], [[User_talk:Rockapheller|talk to me]] 18:48, 26 January 2019 (UTC))
:::Yeah, ICY is the same as M20. M21 would be POU. There wouldn't be any point in moving Ash Ketchum (M20) to Ash Ketchum (ICY) when ICY is an abbreviation for the same movie that M20 stands for. How about calling it Ash Ketchum (reboot) instead? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 21:13, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

== Move? (Continued) ==

Now that this same version of Ash is also due to appear in the next movie, how about we finally move this and Pikachu's page? I think "movie" would be a fitting replacement for "M20". --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:01, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
:Regular Ash has appeared in movies too you know, like BlazingFist said above. Ash (movie) is just not going to work.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:54, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
::Good point. But I feel it also needs to refer to the movie continuity as a whole, instead of just M20. Maybe "AU" for "alternate universe"? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:36, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Movie Verse--[[User:Lego3400|Lego3400]] ([[User talk:Lego3400|talk]]) 01:50, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
::::”M20 continuity”?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 23:25, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::I still second "Ash Ketchum (ICY)". [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:46, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
::::::No, ICY is the same as M20. Could "Ash Ketchum (reboot)" work? These are reboot movies and the only time I know the anime did any sort of continuity reboot. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 02:25, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Donkey Kong Wiki

2020-02-27T00:02:37Z

SeanWheeler:

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In 2018, the wiki began merging into [[Super Mario Wiki]]; it was closed on November 17, 2019.

==History==
The site was founded on Wikia on May 25, 2008, two days after the Mario Party Wikia was founded. The two were former sister sites until the DKWikia's move. Initially, contributors from both sites helped, but after a short period of time, the Donkey Kong Wiki saw a drop in activity. There were low community efforts, and the Wikia version founder himself stopped contributing. Thus desperation led whatever users were left to take article content and images from [[Super Mario Wiki]] in order to make up for what wasn't on the wiki already. However, even after, the wiki was still short of many, many articles and the remaining users abandoned the wiki, save for some random contributors.

The site later saw a revival in activity once current site leader HavocReaper48 joined the project. He, being a large ''{{dk|Donkey Kong Country}}'' fan himself, helped overhaul the site with a spark of activity thanks to his own efforts and additional help from editors from various wikis (notably [[SmashWiki]]). He quickly became an administrator and later bureaucrat. One of the older inactive admins, The Forgotten Beast, even came back out of a hiatus.

However, the site experienced much trouble when Wikia had made its "Oasis" skin mandatory. In October 2010, Donkey Kong Wiki moved from Wikia to its current domain courtesy of [[Super Mario Wiki]] owner Porplemontage. Donkey Kong Wiki became a full member of the [[Nintendo Independent Wiki Alliance]] on November 12, 2010.

In 2018, the wiki began merging into [[Super Mario Wiki]]; it was closed on November 17, 2019.

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Talk:Green (game)

2020-02-24T22:58:53Z

SeanWheeler: /* Split */

== Split ==
Why was she split from the Leaf page? They're basically the same character. Green's outfit still references the FRLG one, includes the same bag and does the exact same posing as she did in FRLG at the start of a battle. If we allow this, then Gold should absolutely be split from Ethan as well.
--[[User:Johto|Johto]] ([[User talk:Johto|talk]]) 01:28, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
:I don't really feel like getting back into this debate, but yeah, I agree. It seems (and has always seemed) like we're applying different rules to different pages.

:If anything this whole thing speaks volumes about how Pokemon handles... things, for lack of a better term. I'm reminded of the whole Ultra Beasts/Legendaries debate. If the Pokemon Company doesn't run on common sense then it's hard for us to, as much as I desperately wish we could.

:If I had the mental energy to push for the pages to be remerged I absolutely would. But I feel like it's kind of a futile effort. I highly doubt anyone will listen. In my experience it has been hard for us normal folk to make [[Talk:Weather trio|any]] [[Talk:Pokémon Gold and Silver beta|changes]] happen. I'm just going to passively voice my support for a merge, and (probably) leave it at that. Apologies for the apathy. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 02:09, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

:: I agree they are basically the same character. As far as I know, the pages were split mainly because the name "Leaf" has now been used in Pokémon Masters. This is the first time the name "Leaf" is used in an official game. Before Masters, the name "Leaf" was just a name commonly used by fans. That name appeared in the hidden game data, but so did "Ninten" for Red in previous games, and in my experience no one seriously calls Red "Ninten". "Leaf" was also one names suggested for both FRLG players (each player had 21 name suggestions, depending on the language), and the name "Leaf" was used in a couple of official figures from 2019 that predate her appearance in Masters.
:: I guess if the Generation II version of Gold appear in Masters with the name "Gold", then Gold would be split from Ethan as well. The name "Gold" has never been used for the game character in any official media, as far as I know. "Gold" is still just a fan name for that game character. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 02:32, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

:::I also must say that this shadow split is kind of a sham move. At least Kris and Lyra both appear together in ''Pokémon Masters'', which puts the final nail in that debate's coffin; in this case, only Leaf appears in the game while having an obvious ''Let's Go, Eevee!'' reference as her Pokémon, so if anything, the implied takeaway is that Green is indeed merely a different incarnation of the same character (as they clearly share the same root with the unused Generation I design). Mind, this could always change in the future, but there is no sign in current datamines and the article should reflect present information, which the merged version was already doing adequately. The Green/Leaf discussion is far from over, but any further splits, like Gold and Ethan, would just be pedantic. [[User:LeafyGreens|LeafyGreens]] ([[User talk:LeafyGreens|talk]]) 17:08, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

::::Green is more minor than Leaf so the chances of her appearing in Masters with Leaf would be slim. Gold and Ethan's designs are too similar in comparison to the female counterparts so I see why Gold is treated as Ethan. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 18:11, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

:::::The same can be said of Kris, who seemed even less likely to show up in ''Pokémon Masters'' given she hasn't appeared since 2000. The reason for the redesign is not complex: since the ''Let's Go'' games are based on Generation I (specifically ''Yellow''), Blue and Red make nostalgic appearances based on their original Generation I and II design instead of designs from Generation III or later. The female character's established design would therefore be inconsistent with them, and her common (initially placeholder) name is a reference to ''LeafGreen'', which ''Let's Go'' isn't trying to remake, necessitating a revamp. The hatless, black outfit design is a deliberate callback to the well-known hypothetical Generation I design, better matching the oldschool look of the other two characters, while her name as an NPC is a homage to her ''Special''/''Adventures'' manga counterpart, which broadly popularized her existence as a character and was among the first media to use color-themed naming for the main characters. For all intents and purposes, they are the same character as of now, the difference being they fulfill separate roles due to ''Let's Go'' having new playable avatars. [[User:LeafyGreens|LeafyGreens]] ([[User talk:LeafyGreens|talk]]) 20:31, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

::::::I wouldn't say Kris would have been less likely to show up than Green because she was extremely popular and her differences from Lyra are more drastic than the changes between Gold and Ethan or even Leaf and Green. I would have liked Green to be Leaf but she is what she is. And besides the split was done. And I don't want to go back to that awkward page that inconsistently called the subject Leaf and Green. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 20:44, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

:::::::Kris was supplanted by Lyra in ''HeartGold''/''SoulSilver'', so the chance of them appearing together certainly seemed very unlikely, whereas ''Let's Go'' Green has a modern appearance and would be more representative of Eevee. As I understand it, Lyra was also designed from scratch, which is why her design differs so much from Lyra (except, vaguely, the hair shape); in contrast, ''FireRed''/''LeafGreen'' Leaf draws inspiration from the hypothetical Generation I girl, and ''Let's Go'' Green references both. The point is that the article split was premature and shouldn't have happened, at least not yet, much less without community consensus at this juncture. Again, I admit this is subject to change and we could see Leaf and Green in the same product, but in the event that doesn't happen by the time ''Pokémon Masters'' support ends, there should be a demand to merge the page back. [[User:LeafyGreens|LeafyGreens]] ([[User talk:LeafyGreens|talk]]) 22:30, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

::::I think this should be pointed out: the Japanese name of Leaf’s trainer move, 「みんなでいくよ！」, is not a direct reference to the ''Let’s Go'' games, Oak’s trainer move is rather named ''Let’s Go!'' , 「レッツゴー!」, in Japanese, this being a reference to his final sentence in the introduction of the Generation I games.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 21:09, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Just here to mention Kris and Lyra have [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Kris_(game)#Word_from_Game_Freak_about_Kris_and_Lyra.27s_identity_problem long since been confirmed to be separate characters] and have no reason to be compared in this situation. There is no final nail or excuse of popularity drummed up by Masters. It's just a decade-old fact that Masters is capitalizing on. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 22:39, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

::::::::So what? Do you want the page to be merged back to an article titled "Green (game)" but calls the subject Leaf for two thirds of it? Whether or not the decision to split is premature, it's better than the inconsistent naming in the article. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 22:58, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Green (game)

2020-02-24T20:44:58Z

SeanWheeler:

Talk:Green (game)

2020-02-24T18:11:49Z

SeanWheeler: /* Split */

Donkey Kong Wiki

2020-02-07T23:09:12Z

SeanWheeler:

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==History==
The site was founded on Wikia on May 25, 2008, two days after the Mario Party Wikia was founded. The two were former sister sites until the DKWikia's move. Initially, contributors from both sites helped, but after a short period of time, the Donkey Kong Wiki saw a drop in activity. There were low community efforts, and the Wikia version founder himself stopped contributing. Thus desperation led whatever users were left to take article content and images from [[Super Mario Wiki]] in order to make up for what wasn't on the wiki already. However, even after, the wiki was still short of many, many articles and the remaining users abandoned the wiki, save for some random contributors.

The site later saw a revival in activity once current site leader HavocReaper48 joined the project. He, being a large ''{{dk|Donkey Kong Country}}'' fan himself, helped overhaul the site with a spark of activity thanks to his own efforts and additional help from editors from various wikis (notably [[SmashWiki]]). He quickly became an administrator and later bureaucrat. One of the older inactive admins, The Forgotten Beast, even came back out of a hiatus.

However, the site experienced much trouble when Wikia had made its "Oasis" skin mandatory. In October 2010, Donkey Kong Wiki moved from Wikia to its current domain courtesy of [[Super Mario Wiki]] owner Porplemontage. Donkey Kong Wiki became a full member of the [[Nintendo Independent Wiki Alliance]] on November 12, 2010.

In 2018 it began the process of merging with Super Mario Wiki.

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List of cross-generational evolutionary lines

2020-01-12T05:06:32Z

SeanWheeler: We have to list the Galarian form exclusive evolutions somewhere. Just because we don't list Alolan Ratatta and Raticate doesn't mean we should exclude Obstagoon.

{{move|List of cross-generational evolution families}}
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This is a list of Pokémon that [[Evolution|evolve]] into a Pokémon originating from a different [[generation]]. For example, {{p|Pichu}} (a [[Generation II]] Pokémon) evolves into {{p|Pikachu}} (a [[Generation I]] Pokémon).

A few of these Pokémon, as a result of new evolutions, become a part of evolutionary families with [[List of Pokémon with branched evolutions|branched evolutions]]. Pokémon which evolve into a Pokémon of a previous generation, instead of from it, are always [[baby Pokémon]].

Later generations have modified old families by introducing [[regional form]]s of older Pokémon adapted for life in different regions. Certain families entirely consist of variant forms while others share an unevolved state before diversifying, much like a branched evolution. Certain Pokémon will only evolve from a specific regional form and, therefore, have no counterpart.

==[[Kanto]]-based evolution families==
===Pikachu family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| rowspan="2" | {{Chart Box|II|text=Baby form|image=172Pichu.png|name=Pichu}}
| rowspan="2" | {{Chart Box|I|text=Friendship|image=025Pikachu.png|name=Pikachu}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Thunder Stone outside of Alola|image=026Raichu.png|name=Raichu}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|VII|text=Thunder Stone in Alola|image=026Raichu-Alola.png|name=Raichu}}
|}

===Clefairy family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Baby|image=173Cleffa.png|name=Cleffa}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Friendship|image=035Clefairy.png|name=Clefairy}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Moon Stone|image=036Clefable.png|name=Clefable}}
|}

===Jigglypuff family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Baby|image=174Igglybuff.png|name=Igglybuff}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Friendship|image=039Jigglypuff.png|name=Jigglypuff}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Moon Stone|image=040Wigglytuff.png|name=Wigglytuff}}
|}

===Zubat family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=041Zubat.png|name=Zubat}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Level 22|image=042Golbat.png|name=Golbat}}
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Friendship|image=169Crobat.png|name=Crobat}}
|}

===Oddish family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| rowspan="2" | {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=043Oddish.png|name=Oddish}}
| rowspan="2" | {{Chart Box|I|text=Level 21|image=044Gloom.png|name=Gloom}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Leaf Stone|image=045Vileplume.png|name=Vileplume}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Sun Stone|image=182Bellossom.png|name=Bellossom}}
|}

===Meowth family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=052Meowth.png|name=Meowth}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Level 28|image=053Persian.png|name=Persian}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|VIII|text=Galarian Form|image=052Meowth-Galar.png|name=Meowth}}
| {{Chart Box|VIII|text=Level 28|image=863Perrserker.png|name=Perrserker}}
|}

===Poliwag family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| rowspan="2" | {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=060Poliwag.png|name=Poliwag}}
| rowspan="2" | {{Chart Box|I|text=Level 25|image=061Poliwhirl.png|name=Poliwhirl}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Water Stone|image=062Poliwrath.png|name=Poliwrath}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Trade with King's Rock|image=186Politoed.png|name=Politoed}}
|}

===Slowpoke family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| rowspan="2" | {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=079Slowpoke.png|name=Slowpoke}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Level 37|image=080Slowbro.png|name=Slowbro}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Trade with King's Rock|image=199Slowking.png|name=Slowking}}
|}

===Magnemite family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=081Magnemite.png|name=Magnemite}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Level 30|image=082Magneton.png|name=Magneton}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Level up in a special magnetic field|image=462Magnezone.png|name=Magnezone}}
|}

===Farfetch'd family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=083Farfetch'd.png|name=Farfetch'd}}
|
|-
| {{Chart Box|VIII|text=Galarian Form|image=083Farfetch'd-Galar.png|name=Farfetch'd}}
| {{Chart Box|VIII|text=Land three critical hits|image=Sirfetch'd.png|name=Sirfetch'd}}
|}

===Onix family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=095Onix.png|name=Onix}}
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Trade with Metal Coat|image=208Steelix.png|name=Steelix}}
|}

===Exeggcute family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| rowspan="2" | {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=102Exeggcute.png|name=Exeggcute}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Leaf Stone outside of Alola|image=103Exeggutor.png|name=Exeggutor}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|VII|text=Leaf Stone in Alola|image=103Exeggutor-Alola.png|name=Exeggutor}}
|}

===Cubone family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| rowspan="2" | {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=104Cubone.png|name=Cubone}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Level 28 outside of Alola|image=105Marowak.png|name=Marowak}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|VII|text=Level 28 in Alola (Night)|image=105Marowak-Alola.png|name=Marowak}}
|}

===[[Hitmons]]===
{| style="margin: auto"
| rowspan="3" | {{Chart Box|II|text=Baby|image=236Tyrogue.png|name=Tyrogue}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Level 20 (Attack > Defense)|image=106Hitmonlee.png|name=Hitmonlee}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Level 20 (Attack < Defense)|image=107Hitmonchan.png|name=Hitmonchan}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Level 20 (Attack = Defense)|image=237Hitmontop.png|name=Hitmontop}}
|}

===Lickitung family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=108Lickitung.png|name=Lickitung}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Level up with Rollout|image=463Lickilicky.png|name=Lickilicky}}
|}

===Koffing family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| rowspan="2" | {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=109Koffing.png|name=Koffing}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Level 35 outside of Galar|image=110Weezing.png|name=Weezing}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|VIII|text=Level 35 in Galar|image=110Weezing-Galar.png|name=Weezing}}
|}

===Rhyhorn family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=111Rhyhorn.png|name=Rhyhorn}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Level 42|image=112Rhydon.png|name=Rhydon}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Trade with Protector|image=464Rhyperior.png|name=Rhyperior}}
|}

===Chansey family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Baby|image=440Happiny.png|name=Happiny}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Level up with Oval Stone|image=113Chansey.png|name=Chansey}}
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Friendship|image=242Blissey.png|name=Blissey}}
|}

===Tangela family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=114Tangela.png|name=Tangela}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Level up with Ancient Power|image=465Tangrowth.png|name=Tangrowth}}
|}

===Horsea family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=116Horsea.png|name=Horsea}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Level 32|image=117Seadra.png|name=Seadra}}
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Trade with Dragon Scale|image=230Kingdra.png|name=Kingdra}}
|}

===Mr. Mime family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| rowspan="2" | {{Chart Box|IV|text=Baby|image=439Mime Jr.png|name=Mime Jr.}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Level up with Mimic outside of Galar|image=122Mr. Mime.png|name=Mr. Mime}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|VIII|text=Level up with Mimic in Galar|image=122Mr. Mime-Galar.png|name=Mr. Mime}}
| {{Chart Box|VIII|text=Level 42|image=866Mr. Rime.png|name=Mr. Rime}}
|}

===Scyther family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=123Scyther.png|name=Scyther}}
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Trade with Metal Coat|image=212Scizor.png|name=Scizor}}
|}

===Jynx family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Baby|image=238Smoochum.png|name=Smoochum}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Level 30|image=124Jynx.png|name=Jynx}}
|}

===Electabuzz family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Baby|image=239Elekid.png|name=Elekid}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Level 30|image=125Electabuzz.png|name=Electabuzz}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Trade with Electirizer|image=466Electivire.png|name=Electivire}}
|}

===Magmar family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Baby|image=240Magby.png|name=Magby}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Level 30|image=126Magmar.png|name=Magmar}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Trade with Magmarizer|image=467Magmortar.png|name=Magmortar}}
|}

===[[Eeveelution]]s===
{| style="margin: auto"
| rowspan="8" | {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=133Eevee.png|name=Eevee}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Water Stone|image=134Vaporeon.png|name=Vaporeon}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Thunder Stone|image=135Jolteon.png|name=Jolteon}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Fire Stone|image=136Flareon.png|name=Flareon}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Friendship (Day) Sun Shard|image=196Espeon.png|name=Espeon}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Friendship (Night) Moon Shard|image=197Umbreon.png|name=Umbreon}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Level up at Moss Rock Leaf Stone|image=470Leafeon.png|name=Leafeon}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Level up at Ice Rock Ice Stone|image=471Glaceon.png|name=Glaceon}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|VI|text=Level up with 2 Affection and a Fairy-type move|image=700Sylveon.png|name=Sylveon}}
|}

===Porygon family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=137Porygon.png|name=Porygon}}
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Trade with Up-Grade|image=233Porygon2.png|name=Porygon2}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Trade with Dubious Disc|image=474Porygon-Z.png|name=Porygon-Z}}
|}

===Snorlax family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Baby|image=446Munchlax.png|name=Munchlax}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Friendship|image=143Snorlax.png|name=Snorlax}}
|}

==[[Johto]]-based evolution families==
===Togepi family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Baby|image=175Togepi.png|name=Togepi}}
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Friendship|image=176Togetic.png|name=Togetic}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Shiny Stone|image=468Togekiss.png|name=Togekiss}}
|}

===Marill family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|III|text=Baby|image=298Azurill.png|name=Azurill}}
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Friendship|image=183Marill.png|name=Marill}}
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Level 18|image=184Azumarill.png|name=Azumarill}}
|}

===Sudowoodo family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Baby|image=438Bonsly.png|name=Bonsly}}
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Level up with Mimic|image=185Sudowoodo.png|name=Sudowoodo}}
|}

===Aipom family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Unevolved|image=190Aipom.png|name=Aipom}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Level up with Double Hit|image=424Ambipom.png|name=Ambipom}}
|}

===Yanma family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Unevolved|image=193Yanma.png|name=Yanma}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Level up with Ancient Power|image=469Yanmega.png|name=Yanmega}}
|}

===Murkrow family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Unevolved|image=198Murkrow.png|name=Murkrow}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Dusk Stone|image=430Honchkrow.png|name=Honchkrow}}
|}

===Misdreavus family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Unevolved|image=200Misdreavus.png|name=Misdreavus}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Dusk Stone|image=429Mismagius.png|name=Mismagius}}
|}

===Wobbuffet family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|III|text=Baby|image=360Wynaut.png|name=Wynaut}}
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Level 15|image=202Wobbuffet.png|name=Wobbuffet}}
|}

===Gligar family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Unevolved|image=207Gligar.png|name=Gligar}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Level up with Razor Fang (Night)|image=472Gliscor.png|name=Gliscor}}
|}

===Sneasel family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Unevolved|image=215Sneasel.png|name=Sneasel}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Level up with Razor Claw (Night)|image=461Weavile.png|name=Weavile}}
|}

===Swinub family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Unevolved|image=220Swinub.png|name=Swinub }}
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Level 33|image=221Piloswine.png|name=Piloswine}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Level up with Ancient Power|image=473Mamoswine.png|name=Mamoswine}}
|}

===Corsola family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Unevolved|image=222Corsola.png|name=Corsola}}
|
|-
| {{Chart Box|VIII|text=Galarian form|image=222Corsola-Galar.png|name=Corsola}}
| {{Chart Box|VIII|text=Level 38|image=864Cursola.png|name=Cursola}}
|}

===Mantine family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Baby|image=458Mantyke.png|name=Mantyke}}
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Level up with Remoraid in party|image=226Mantine.png|name=Mantine}}
|}

==[[Hoenn]]-based evolution families==
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|III|text=Unevolved|image=263Zigzagoon.png|name=Zigzagoon}}
| {{Chart Box|III|text=Level 20|image=264Linoone.png|name=Linoone}}
|
|-
| {{Chart Box|VIII|text=Galarian form|image=263Zigzagoon-Galar.png|name=Zigzagoon}}
| {{Chart Box|VIII|text=Level 20|image=264Linoone-Galar.png|name=Linoone}}
| {{Chart Box|VIII|text=Level 35 at Night|image=862Obstagoon.png|name=Obstagoon}}
|}

===Ralts family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| rowspan="2" | {{Chart Box|III|text=Unevolved|image=280Ralts.png|name=Ralts}}
| rowspan="2" | {{Chart Box|III|text=Level 20|image=281Kirlia.png|name=Kirlia}}
| {{Chart Box|III|text=Level 30|image=282Gardevoir.png|name=Gardevoir}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Dawn Stone (male)|image=475Gallade.png|name=Gallade}}
|}

===Nosepass family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|III|text=Unevolved|image=299Nosepass.png|name=Nosepass}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Level up in a special magnetic field|image=476Probopass.png|name=Probopass}}
|}

===Roselia family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Baby|image=406Budew.png|name=Budew}}
| {{Chart Box|III|text=Friendship (Day)|image=315Roselia.png|name=Roselia}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Shiny Stone|image=407Roserade.png|name=Roserade}}
|}

===Duskull family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|III|text=Unevolved|image=355Duskull.png|name=Duskull}}
| {{Chart Box|III|text=Level 37|image=356Dusclops.png|name=Dusclops}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Trade with Reaper Cloth|image=477Dusknoir.png|name=Dusknoir}}
|}

===Chimecho family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Baby|image=433Chingling.png|name=Chingling}}
| {{Chart Box|III|text=Friendship (Night)|image=358Chimecho.png|name=Chimecho}}
|}

===Snorunt family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| rowspan="2" | {{Chart Box|III|text=Unevolved|image=361Snorunt.png|name=Snorunt}}
| {{Chart Box|III|text=Level 42|image=362Glalie.png|name=Glalie}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Dawn Stone (female)|image=478Froslass.png|name=Froslass}}
|}

==[[Unova]]-based evolution families==
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|V|text=Unevolved|image=562Yamask.png|name=Yamask}}
| {{Chart Box|V|text=Level 34|image=563Cofagrigus.png|name=Cofagrigus}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|VIII|text=Galarian form|image=562Yamask-Galar.png|name=Yamask}}
| {{Chart Box|VIII|text=Under the stone bridge in Dusty Bowl with 49 damage|image=867Runerigus.png|name=Runerigus}}
|}

==Trivia==
* Generation IV introduced the most evolutionary relatives to Pokémon from previous generations, with 29, and Generation VI introduced the fewest evolutionary relatives to Pokémon from previous generations, with only one, {{p|Sylveon}}. The only generations that didn't introduce any new cross-generational evolutions (not counting [[regional form]]s) are Generation V and Generation VII.
* {{p|Roselia}} is the only Pokémon to have both a pre-evolution and an evolution ({{p|Budew}} and {{p|Roserade}}, respectively) introduced in the same generation.
* {{p|Porygon}} is the only Pokémon to have an evolution introduced in a later generation that was later able to evolve once again.

==See also==
{{pokelist}}

[[Category:Lists]]
[[Category:Pokémon with cross-generational evolutions|*]]

[[it:Elenco Pokémon con evoluzioni extra-generazionali]]
[[zh:宝可梦跨世代进化列表]]

Talk:Silver (game)

2020-01-06T05:16:35Z

SeanWheeler: /* Official figurine of Silver naming him... Silver */

==Silver==
Is there any way to suggest that Silver is "Giovanni's red-haired son" without causing a discussion that would span for 40 days and 40 nights, break for an hour, then start up again? --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

>Emphasize that's fan speciulation at best? - Zeta

What if we classified it as "heavily implied?" Since, it seems to be. [[User:Cheesedude|Cheesedude]] 03:19, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

==Sneasel==
If I'm remembering correctly, Silver steals his Sneasel from a guy in Cianwood. He gives Gold his Shuckle so Silve dosen't come back and steal that, too. That seems pretty relevant to me....[[User:Cheesedude|Cheesedude]] 03:19, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia's article on Silver is MUCH more detailed, which is odd, since this is Bulbapedia....[[User:Cheesedude|Cheesedude]] 03:20, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

:responding to this a year later -_- Anyway if you have a look at Silver's non-starter Pokémon they are all more or less sweeper-based in stats. Shuckle has no offensive powers really, and the only time it has them is when it sacrifices all its defense (and its still too slow to be any good). I doubt Silver wanted it.--[[User:Outrage DD|Outrage DD]] 19:10, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, I definitely think that Silver steals his Sneasel from the guy in Cianwood, since he has it in a point of the game where you can't get it at that point yet. <big>[[user:chocolate|Cho]][[user talk:chocolate|col]][[special:contributions/chocolate|ate]]</big> 19:12, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

== Crobat? ==

...how does having a Crobat show that he loves his Pokémon? [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ 19:36, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Because this means that his Pokémon love him, 'cause Golbat will evolve just if its Happiness is at maximum. And, a Pokémon can't be happy if the Trainer don't care about them, just if the Trainer really loves the Pokémom.'''[[User:Haruka uzumaki|うずまき]][[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|ハルカ]]''' 20:05, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

:Yeah but, there are [[Soothe Bell|other ways]] too get your Pokémon to love you, [[Luxury Ball|loads of others]], so it doesn't really mean he loved his Crobat in return. I'd look [[Happiness|here]] for more info xD [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 21:43, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
::[[Revival Herb|You have to be cruel to be kind.]]'''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''03:57 29 May 2008'''''
::: ↑ Wouldn't that just cancel it out...? --[[User:Cat2killer|CAT2 A.K.A Cat2killer]] 00:35, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
::::It's tough love, but anyway. The Crobat is likely implied further evidence that Silver was not just spouting things about 'caring more' for his Pokémon, but actually changing (or has changed) his initial attitude of being a rash and cruel trainer.[[User:HechEff|HechEff]] 12:27, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

== Sprite ==

I want to update the battle info to the new standard, but first, I need to know this: Do we currently have the Silver sprite uploaded? 'Cause we really need it for the template. --[[user:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[user talk:Chocolate|talk to me]]) 01:53, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:Do you have the moveset too? [[User: Tc26|'''tc''']][[User talk: Tc26|'''2''']][[Special: Contributions/Tc26|'''6''']] 01:58, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::Check silversprite 1 and 2 [[User: Tc26|'''tc''']][[User talk: Tc26|'''2''']][[Special: Contributions/Tc26|'''6''']] 02:15, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I don't quite have the movesets, but I do know this: In [[Generation I]], the 4 moves were always the most recent 4 moves that a Pokémon would know it its level. So, when I'm putting the table, I'll do it like that until someone else can confirm otherwise. --[[user:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[user talk:Chocolate|talk to me]]) 02:19, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::::They've got movesets and stuff if you search hard enough in a GSC walkthrough on GameFAQs.com. [[User:Gligar|'''Gli''']][[User talk:Gligar|'''gar''']] 02:25, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Well, can someone more experienced update the battle info? I'm a bit too tired to do it right now. --[[user:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[user talk:Chocolate|talk to me]]) 02:42, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::I can do it. [[User: Tc26|'''tc''']][[User talk: Tc26|'''2''']][[Special: Contributions/Tc26|'''6''']] 02:48, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Why does the article has a Crystal sprite if it's the same as in Gold and Silver? The correct thing is to put a list of all the sprites and their variations like in Green's/Blue's article. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 21:51, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

==Kamon?==

Do we really need to mention that name? It's just the first player name choice for the Silver version, and Hiroki (the first for Gold) isn't the name used by Gold's Anime equivalent (Kenta). "Mentioned on an Anime website"? What site? Sounds like fanwank to me. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 13:54, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
:Thank you, ArcToraphim. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 15:56, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
i think the original japanese you guys have in here for silver its not the right one cause while i put it in pokeani it appeared richie.
:シルバ is correct. Pokéani isn’t really the best source. (See also: the recent removal of all the gym leader titles taken from Pokéani.) [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 19:52, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

== Picture of Anime Debut ==

I just saw that it had all the text on it. If I possibly could, would it be acceptable for me to find one without text and replace the current one? ''[[User:ShinjiLover|シンジ]]'''''[[Paul|Shinji]]'''[[User talk:ShinjiLover|Lover]],'''[[Special:Contributions/ShinjiLover|Edits]]''' 07:39, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:By all means go ahead. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 00:07, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

== Optional names? ==

Where are his optional name? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 20:04, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:Not here. Anyone got GSC? Go find out for us. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:56, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
::I... don't think he has any. It enters "SILVER" in Gold and Crystal, and "GOLD" in Silver, but other than that... nothing. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:03, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Would that be 50/50 split in Crystal? - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Cat2killer}} ([[User talk:Cat2killer|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cat2killer|contribs]]) ''
There are no optional names. When the cop asks for his name, you have to come up with it yourself. --[[user:Ryuutakeshi|Ryuutakeshi]] 1:40 August 27 2009

== Anime Counterpart ==

Isn't [[Paul]] Silver's anime counterpart, but it said on this [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Cross-canon_counterparts page]. --'''[[User:Lance123|∫∆π©∑]][[User talk:Lance123|一二三]]''' 09:15, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah... that page lied.... naughty page... it's all better now. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:43, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

== Silver's new design ==

Serebii has uploaded a scan showing Silver's redesign for the remakes, but the pic is too small [http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/scan0609.jpg]

I was wondering if anyone has a link to a bigger one, so that we can upload a decent image with his new design and update the article. -- [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 12:05, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
:Even if there WAS a decent version of this scan, there is no way it would be put in the article. just wait for the official site to update with the art. There is no reason for crappy quality art to be used. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 12:14, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
:Filb.de and PokéBeach. Basically the same though. I agree, wait for the site. They're incomplete. The site may update this weekend, the next one or the one after that. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 12:40, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
::Sketch: Even if we don't replace the main image, shouldn't we add the scan with the redesign somewhere in the article?
::Tc26: Thanks. I had checked PokéBeach and Filb.de before writing the comment, but they hadn't updated with the new scans yet. -[[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 13:15, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
:::No, because it's low quality. Just wait for the site to update. It won't take long. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 13:23, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS sprite ==

<big>W</big>hy does silver's HGSS sprite keep getting remove from the article? [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 20:13, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

:Because we don't know it's final, just like we don't know if any of the other revealed sprites are final. Remember that Weavile and Munchlax got changed after being revealed for D/P, and a bunch of others that hadn't been revealed probably got changed too. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:08, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
::Well, we know what the final one is now, considering Pokémon Sunday recently showed a battle with Silver. If they changed his sprite after that, I want to know why.--[[User:Ryuutakeshi|Ryuutakeshi]] 23:55, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Is it the same one? I can't find the thing on Sunday... '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 00:34, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Look on [[Talk: Rival|this page]]. The sprite is kinda there. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 00:44, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Alright. Now I have to wait to see if the one on my Sandbox page is the final after the animation or not. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 01:07, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::This is probably known to you all, but we know can update ALL sprites, since they have all been ripped.--[[User:Ryuutakeshi|Ryuutakeshi]] 05:23, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Including Silver's animated one? '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:25, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::You know, I know that there are people out there who have it, but I can't for the life of me find it. {{unsigned|Ryuutakeshi}}
:When Bulbagarden gets hold of the sprite, they will go up. Don't rush. Thank you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:45, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== Soul? ==

That's right. Silver has a new name now, his default is either Heart (ハート ''Heart'') or Soul (ソウル ''Soul'') depending on your version.
--[[User:Raine|Raine]] 15:14, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:It was like that in Gold and Silver too, his name was either Gold or Silver was his default name depending on the version. The exception is Crystal, where his default name is Silver. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 18:23, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
But not anymore.

His posssible names are only Heart and Soul, ''not'' Gold or Silver, so the article should be moved.--[[User:Raine|Raine]] 22:34, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:We're leaving it where it is until the English versions come out. Same for {{OBP|Gold|game}}. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 22:40, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::Must we really change it? People still call him Silver. A lot of people don't even realize his new defaults. --[[User:Ryuutakeshi|Ryuutakeshi]] 02:34, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Well no wonder, the game hasn't even been out for a week, and is Japanese-only so far. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 02:54, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
::::His default name is:
*Pokémon Gold: Silver
*Pokémon Silver: Gold
*Pokémon Crystal: Silver
*Pokémon HeartGold: Soul
*Pokémon SoulSilver: Heart
::::So if we did move, which one would we move him to? His history makes me lean towards keeping the article at Silver. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:25, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Also, placeholder data in HGSS calls him "Silver". So, we should stick to that, just as we call FRLG girl "{{ga|Leaf}}". --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 18:50, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::{{OBP|Kotone|game}} has the default names "Heart" and "Soul" as well. If we call Silver Heart or Soul, that'll get... confusing. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 19:03, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I would like to stick with Silver. If you look for the most common default name in the list, that is the answer. I would think that it would be one of the player characters if you were to sau Heart or Soul, not Silver. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 19:07, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::As I'm sure you all know, the Pearl article was recently changed to Barry on the grounds that it appears at the top of two of three default name lists. I guess you can sort of apply the same argument here, but keep in mind this is a remake. In addition, the Barry article chose to ignore the placeholder name. Keep in mind that placeholder data isn't necessarily reliable (Red would otherwise be Ninten, Blue'd be either Sony or Terry and Barry would be Cedric), though it was used in a case where no clear default was ever indicated (Leaf). I guess the real answer to this is if Bulbapedia is willing to include an outdated generation in this. I personally wouldn't, but it's your call. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] 04:15, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

== Say What?! ==

Quote: "Giovanni and Silver's relationship is revealed in HeartGold and SoulSilver if the player brings a promotional Celebi to the Ilex Shrine in Ilex Forest. Celebi takes the player back in time three years to witness Giovanni abandoning Silver to go into seclusion because of his defeat. Silver's hate for Team Rocket apparently stems from them failing his father."

What's this event? I've heard of the pichu event and arceus event, but not this one. Where did this come from, and why can i not find anything else about it on any other pages? The curiosity is killing me! [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 19:00, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
:Maybe because the games have been out less than a week and thus information is still coming in? But it's true, here - http://pokebeach.com/2009/09/part-4-of-heartgold-and-soulsilver-coverage. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 19:02, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
::Nintendo haven't acknowledged it in the pre-release info but it has been found inside the game's code. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:20, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:::[http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/celebi.shtml Serebii] has an article on it if you'd like more info. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 18:57, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

== Hometown ==

Now that Giovanni is confirmed to be Silver's dad in the games, should we change Silver's hometown from "Unknown" to Viridian City? It'd make sense. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 23:05, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:No... think about it. Parents could be born someplace totally different from child. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']]★ 23:10, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
::Giovanni is also shown abandoning Silver at the gate to Johto near Viridian... [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 00:27, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Exactly. I'd say that Silver's hometown being Viridian is a pretty safe bet. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 02:12, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Umm just wondering, was he born in Johto or Kanto?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:14, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Um... that's what we're talking about... sorta... ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:15, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::Well I'm kinda a blond, but with brown hair. Well back to the topic, did it say anything in the games?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:17, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Read the stupid article and find out. ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:18, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I know it was confirmed in the game, I'm just talking about did it say anything in the games of where he came from.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:21, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::That makes no sense. ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:22, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::Did it say anything about if he came from Kanto or Johto? B/c Giovanni is a Kanto native(presumably), Silver must be from Kanto, but he could been born in Johto.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:25, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::Which is what we're talking about. Giovani is from Viridian, and the scene in the game where Giovanni leaves Silver is at the gate connecting Viridian to the rout eleading to Johto.So while it's never outright said Silver is born in Viridian, chances are he was. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 00:22, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
:Think about it. Giovanni's job as Mr. Evil Overlord takes him all over the Pokémon world. You see him in Saffron and Celadon Cities. Silver may have been born there. Let's not forget the fact that it is (or so I am led to believe) the woman who gives birth; no in-game evidence ties Giovanni to anyone in particular. It's entirely possible that Silver is [[Julia]]'s son, and Giovanni's just been lying about being a sailor because his woman doesn't like Team Rocket. Or something equally absurd. Point of the matter is, Silver's birthplace is unknown and we aren't going to put anything in. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:01, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
::Eh? The only places we saw Giovanni travel to were Kanto cities (and Tohjo falls, AFTER we see him leaving Kanto and abandoning Silver). Not only there's no evidence to suggest that he had to travel to other regions prior to his defeat by Red, but it's highly unlikely considering that Team Rocket was mainly a Kanto-based organization during Gen I. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]]
:::The point was we don't know where Silver is born. We can guess, but it is not going into the article. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:43, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
:::It's likely Silver was born in Viridian, but unless it's confirmed for sure no, it shouldn't be added. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 21:33, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

==Introduction==
This page's introduction is kind of confusing. When I first read it, it sounded like the Fame Checker referenced Special and "Silver's dark demeanor" along with the red haired child clue. I'd edit this myself, but wanted to ask if this was just me or if other people also find the sentence structure confusing.

Here's the sentence as it is now:
Prior to the release of Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver, fan speculation held that Silver was Giovanni's red-haired child, due to Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen's Fame Checker's many references to Pokémon Gold and Silver versions, to Giovanni being Silver's manga equivalent's father in Pokémon Special, and to Silver's dark demeanor and detestment of Team Rocket.

And here's how it could be changed:
Prior to the release of Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver, fan speculation held that Silver was Giovanni's red-haired child, citing as evidence Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen's Fame Checker's many references to Pokémon Gold and Silver versions, Giovanni being Silver's manga equivalent's father in Pokémon Special, and Silver's dark demeanor and detestment of Team Rocket. A sidequest in Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver later proved the theory true.

--[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 01:59, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

== Leaf... ==

Shiningpikablu252: Oh, come on! You said yourself that Leaf should be mentioned in the FR/LG section of the timeline article but not in the G/S/C/HG/SS section because she existed on FR/LG but not on the G/S/C/HG/SS timeline. Now you're contradicting yourself by mentioning her in an article that is about a GSC character, and therefore, it's about the GSC timeline (especially considering that the part I edited was talking about a line said by Giovanni in HG/SS, not FR/LG, so he was clearly talking about Red). What's up with that?

And second, why was the article protected? No "canonicity debacle" started. I simply corrected a mistake, and before anyone could agree or disagree with it, you reverted it and protected the article. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 02:47, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

:If the fact that Red appears in Mt. Silver and Leaf doesn't appear at all were enough to outright suggest that only one of them can exist in canon, then there wouldn't even be any canonicity debates to begin with. <strike>However, the one and only text reference in the original Generation II games that explicity implies Red came from Copycat, something that can easily be changed to be gender-neutral in a remake.</strike> Even back in Generation II, they said Team Rocket was broken up three years ago by "a kid", which in Genration IV context would imply either Red or Leaf. And odds are the writers wouldn't insert any new text that would explicitly imply Red is the only canon character from the three-years-ago timeline, especially since they took the trouble of perfecting Leaf to begin with. (Yes, I said perfecting--female player characters were taken into consideration as far back as the original concepts for the Japanese Red and Green, but weren't implemented until Crystal due to technical restrictions.)

:Furthermore, Red's team at Mt. Silver is based primarily on other forms of Pokémon media, primarily Ash from the anime, but also in Generation II from {{Special|Red}} in [[Pokémon Special]] (this would explain Espeon). As far as we're concerned, if the depiction of Red is not fully video-game-based, then nobody has a place to say that Leaf has absolutely no place in canon simply because Red's there and Leaf's not.

:In closing: The Leaf mentions stay. To remove them would imply that the Generation I games were the one and only proper canon for the three-years-ago story, and that FireRed/LeafGreen themselves are non-canonical, and that in turn would put some doubt on HeartGold/SoulSilver's canonicity. Whether the Leaf mentions remain in the current wording or not, that remains to be seen. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:26, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

::"If the fact that Red appears in Mt. Silver and Leaf doesn't appear at all were enough to outright suggest that only one of them can exist in canon, then there wouldn't even be any canonicity debates to begin with."

::The point is - Leaf's story from FR/LG isn't canon. Red and Leaf can't both be the kid who defeated Team Rocket and became the regional Kanto champion in the same continuity.

::"However, the one and only text reference in the original Generation II games that explicity implies Red came from Copycat, something that can easily be changed to be gender-neutral in a remake. Even back in Generation II, they said Team Rocket was broken up three years ago by "a kid", which in Genration IV context would imply either Red or Leaf."

::If that was the case, I wouldn't have a problem with leaving the kid's identity's ambiguous. However, you're wrong. Blue stated that he was defeated by Red (yes, he mentioned his name) after he became champion when you meet him in Cinnabar Island.

::"Furthermore, Red's team at Mt. Silver is based primarily on other forms of Pokémon media, primarily Ash from the anime, but also in Generation II from {{Special|Red}} in [[Pokémon Special]] (this would explain Espeon). As far as we're concerned, if the depiction of Red is not fully video-game-based, then nobody has a place to say that Leaf has absolutely no place in canon simply because Red's there and Leaf's not."

::Not really. Special Red's team was based on GSC Red's, not the other way around.
::GSC and HG/SS Red's team is based on the four Gen I starters (Pikachu, Venusaur, Charizard and Blastoise) and Pokémon that Red canonically met in Gen I (he got Eevee from that man in Celadon, Lapras from that Silph scientist, and Snorlax when he met it blocking the path to Fuchsia). The only part of HG/SS Red's team that is a reference to other media is Pikachu, as it has the same moves as the anime Pikachu.

::"In closing: The Leaf mentions stay. To remove them would imply that the Generation I games were the one and only proper canon for the three-years-ago story, and that FireRed/LeafGreen themselves are non-canonical, and that in turn would put some doubt on HeartGold/SoulSilver's canonicity. Whether the Leaf mentions remain in the current wording or not, that remains to be seen."

::What? You're saying that for FR/LG to be canon, Leaf has to exist? How does that work? Last time I checked, FR/LG presented two alternate continuities: one where Red traveling Kanto, collecting badges, defeating Team Rocket, and becoming the Kanto champion. The other one was identical except for Leaf taking Red's place. You're telling me that both continuity are canon within the same timeline? How is that even possible? You're saying that Team Rocket took over Silph, was defeated by Red (or Leaf) and ran away, then decided to come back and take over Silph once again, just to be defeated by Leaf (or Red)? That Giovanni was defeated by Red (or Leaf) in his Gym and disbanded TR, then had a change of mind and went back to the gym, then was defeated by the other player character and decided to disband TR once again? That the S.S. Anne sailed from Vermilion City two times (nevermind the fact that it was said that it only comes back once every year)? That Kanto had TWO regional champions? That...
::Sorry, but no. The kid who became the Kanto champion and defeated Giovanni and TR was either Red OR Leaf, not both. And since HG/SS blatantly stated that Red was the Kanto champion (therefore canonizing Red's story from FR/LG), then Leaf has no place in the timeline. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 04:10, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
:::GS was a continuation of RB. It had Red at the end coz Red was the player character. How is your copy of HGSS going to know which gender you played as in FRLG? It makes sense to simply approximate the whole story to Red's journey only. Leaf's journey exists in the FRLG canon, true it is blissfully ignored, but it still exists and to that extent we as Bulbapedians are bound to cover it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:53, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
::::He has a point though. The one that Giovanni lost to is the same person at the summit of Mt. Silver. Who is that person? Red. Not Leaf. I'm not saying to deny her existence. But the point is that she's not the one at Mt. Silver. Red is. It's that simple. Unless I'm wrong and someone can prove that if you play as Kotone and Leaf will appear instead, then that's basically the case. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:26, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

"if you play as Kotone and Leaf will appear instead"
:That actually sounds plausible, make sense to me. Can anyone check that? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 05:35, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
::I plan on doing it once my game arrives. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:37, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
:::You all probably know by now, but nope. Leaf's not there. Sorry Leaf, you're not canon (or at least you didn't become champion, defeat team rocket and become a legend. --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 23:19, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

== Back sprite ==

Could someone please upload Silver's Back Sprite from his Tag battle with the [[Gold (game)|Pla]][[Kotone (game)|yer]]? [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 20:20, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

[[File:HGSS Silver Back.png]] [[User:Kingofall42|Kingofall42]] 10:20, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
there you go.
:Thank-you. Now someone needs to put it in the table EDIT: Nvm, didn't notice it in there. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 13:51, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

== Girl Silver ==

Are you sure that's a girl? Cause the only difference I see is that he has bigger eyes in that drawing. Does it say it in the text or something? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 08:03, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
:It doesn't look female at all to me. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 10:04, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

== Name ==

He's "Boy". That's his default name in HGSS. Move it? /sarcasm '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TF'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|Lambda]]''' 20:10, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
:Where's ''that'' taken from? Way I figure, his HGSS name is either simply "Rival" (Japanese DeviantArt Pixiv uses that tag often enough) or "Soul" (similar to FRLG's "Green"(/"Blue") as the rival of "Red"). [[User:TJF588|TJF588]] 20:58, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, it is "Passerby Boy". '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 20:47, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Wouldn't "Passerby" be his trainer class? -[[User:KinCryos|KinCryos]] 02:55, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

== Celebi Event: Silver's Abandonment Dialogue ==

Silver: You told me... you were the number one in the world! Are you gonna quit? What are you going to do now?
Giovanni: .................. One must acknowledge one's defeat before he can move on... I will go solo... for now... So that one day I will form a stronger organization!
Silver: What aspect of you was number one? Gathering so many only to be defeated by a mere child!
Giovanni: Putting together the potential of many is how you produce a huge power... That's what an organization is... That's the strength of an organization! I failed... to make the best use of my subordinates' potential...! But you shall witness one day the revival of me and my Team Rocket!
Silver: I don't understand you! You don't make any sense!
Giovanni: .................. One day, you will understand. (Walks away)
Silver: I don't want to understand you! I will never become someone like you. A coward when you're alone and acting like a tyrant when you're in front of other cowards! I will become strong! I will become a stronger man all by myself! All by myself!* (Walks up to player)
Silver: ...What are you staring at? (Kicks or pushes player) (Runs off)

*Stretched Text
You're welcome --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 23:52, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

== Massive problem with his image, literally. ==

Right now his image is stretching the page it's so large, I've forgotten how to make images in a template smaller. Just go on his page and you'll see what I mean. Can someone fix this? [[User:Takoto| - Takoto]] 19:51, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
:It's a simple enough fix, I just don't know the specific size it's supposed to be or I'd fix it. Politoed666 should be able to do it. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 19:56, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

==Rematches==
In Gold, Silver, Crystal, HeartGold, and SoulSilver, Silver (In my games I own, I call him Jackson) can be rematched at the Indigo Plateau on Mondays and Wednesdays.
[[User:DAC12|Dragon]] [[User talk:DAC12|Ace]] [[Special:Contributions/DAC12|Cameron]] 01:03, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
:We know...In fact, I've found out most, I believe, if not all of them, of their moves, but yeah, we already knew...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:10, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

== Stadium 2 ==

Is he really called "Rival Rival?" [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 23:00, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

== Hair color? ==

Has nobody seen the difference in haircolor from Silver's HGSS back and VS sprites? [[User:Alexjuuhh|Alexjuuhh]] 18:23, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
:It's because of the lighting, you can see slight color differentiations in the other character's back and VS sprite as well. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 19:31, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

== Three eye colors? ==

Gen II art is black, Gen IV art is grey...I'm not seeing "red" among his sprites. So where does it come from? [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 23:14, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:The opening animation when starting the game shows them as red. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 23:35, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

== Just curious... ==

..but does anyone know where to see this placeholder data in HGSS that says his name is Silver? [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 06:24, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

==Huh??==
I went to Dragon's Den on a Thursday and he was there, but he wouldn't battle me?!? It was kind of like I had battled him, as his words were like I had, but I hadn't.--[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 16:38, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
:Have you already done the tag battle against Lance & Clair? That's the only battle involving Silver that takes place in Dragon's Den. If you want to battle him again directly, you have to meet him in Indigo Plateau on a Monday or Wednesday. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 18:04, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
::In that case the article needs to be made clearer: ''Following Silver's final encounter with the player and after the player has become Champion, Silver can be found training on Tuesday and Thursday in the Dragon's Den, and will appear at the Indigo Plateau on Monday and Wednesday to challenge the player, should he or she appear.'' implies that you can battle him when he is at Dragon's Den. --[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 09:57, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
:::I fixed it. --[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 10:01, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

== His son ? Really ? ==

I just did the Celebi event in my SoulSilver version and found nothing to suggest that Silver is Giovanni's son. Did I miss something here, or does this article need to be edited ?--[[User:WenGobou|WenGobou]] 21:26, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

It's spelled out in the Japanese text, IIRC. [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] 22:16, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Kay, thx. But why would they remove it from the English version ? Could a Japanese person confirm this ?--[[User:WenGobou|WenGobou]] 12:31, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

== Weak starter ==

Playing on an emulator, and using Pokesav to mod my save file, I gave myself Totodile and Chikorita in my PC box, and then picked Cyndaquil as my starter. I get to the first battle with Silver and he sends out a Chikorita, not a Totodile like he should have.--[[User:Lycos Ex Mortis|Lycos Ex Mortis]] ([[User talk:Lycos Ex Mortis|talk]]) 07:26, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

== Why is his Gold/Silver/Crystal pokemon on another page? ==

That doesn't make any sense. {{unsigned|StarDragonJP}}
:It's because the page is too big. If any page gets large enough, it becomes difficult or impossible to load, so at that point large sections need to be moved to a subpage to alleviate the server stress. Since GSC is older and thus less relevant than HGSS, it makes sense that GSC information would be the first to be moved to a subpage. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 07:09, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

== Passerby Boy ==

I think we should move the article to [[Passerby Boy]], as Silver is not his official name, and since [[Ethan]] is no longer called Gold, looks really silly to call the rival Silver. Although Passerby Boy is a title rather than a name, it is actually used ingame. Silver in fact is not his default name in Silver and HGSS. [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 20:38, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
:No. His counterparts are called Silver, fans (or alternatively, '''''everyone''''') primarily calls him Silver. Passerby Boy is more like his trainer class than an actual name. And saying it looks ridiculous when paired with Ethan is an opinion, and a rather weak one. Ethan is technically still Gold, just with an official name.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:07, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
::technically, only '''Passerby''' was his trainer class with '''Boy''' being used as a placeholder name. this only enforces why we ''shouldn't'' move the article. --[[User:KinCryos|KinCryos]] ([[User talk:KinCryos|talk]]) 19:54, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

== More Quotes ==

I saw a Soul Silver nuzlocke runthrough on YouTube once and after battling Silver the game said something like his ID card fell out. Then Silver said something like "Oh no! You saw my name!" or something. (I honestly don't know, I'll try to find the video again.) Since it was probably modified to work on a computer, should we put it in? --[[User:Mira Zannah|Mira Zannah]] [[User_talk:Mira Zannah|(Feel free to yell at me)]] 20:13, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
:It's on the page right under HGSS quotes: ''"Give it back! That's my Trainer Card! Oh no! You saw my name…"'' [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 04:16, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

== Real Name ==

As stated in the above '''Passerby Boy''' section: The name [[Silver]] is pure fanon, taken only from one of two conflicting, flimsy original sources (if we consider [[Pokémon Crystal]] a secondary source). However, in both sources, this character '''directly''' and '''absolutely''' states his name, which is ''???''.
For your observation I have provided an evidence: [https://imgur.com/a/YICEs]

This is then '''confirmed''' when you speak to the police officer who asks for ???'s name. When you answer with the correct answer, ''???'', the cop accepts your correct answer and lets you continue with the game. ??? is then identified by his canon name, ''???'', ''throughout the whole game'' for ''decades''. This is still the case on my original copies of both [[Pokémon Gold]] AND [[Pokémon Silver]] - and yours too if you played it right and the batteries didn't die.

It is irresponsible to refer to this character by his fanon name when a clear canonical exists. Please refer to him as ''???'' in future. I thank you. [[User:Today|Today]] ([[User talk:Today|talk]]) 02:29, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
:... no... just no. That's called being ridiculous, there's no way we're going to move this page to ??? - this page is never getting moved '''period'''. "Silver" is the name of his manga counterparts, which makes calling this page "Silver" valid enough, even if it is not confirmed to be his official name in the games.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:10, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
::Unfortunately, I don't see any strictly canonical reason why this would be incorrect. Furthermore, the localizers/translators would have had his dialogue rephrased to something other than "My name's ???" so early in the game (why would he introduce himself at all if he didn't have a name yet?) if that wasn't the character's name. It's a pointless guesture to impose what we think is "ridiculous" on these games. [[User:Milotic1|Milotic1]] ([[User talk:Milotic1|talk]]) 04:01, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
:::I don't think the dialogue "My name is ???" is meant to be taken so literally. The "???" is a placeholder. Him introducing himself "when he doesn't have a name" is an in-game thing and isn't meant to be taken so literally.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:29, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
::::For your info, Silver is the name of only 2 manga counterparts. His other two are instead Black and Tsubaki. Also, what authority do you have that gives you the right to say that ''this page is never getting moved '''period''''', or to remove a suggested moving template like you did to mine months ago? No bad feelings, but I would like to know if admins are allowed to remove "suggested" moving templates, just because they disagree. I am not for or against keeping the page "Silver". Just wanted to point out a fact and to know your position. [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 21:41, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

== Name suggestion (Gnohio) ==

Looking over the debate of "Silver" vs "???", my friends and I, after some discussion, believe we have forged a suitable compromise. Many Johto/2nd gen fans prefer to call him Gnohio. This is a very unique name and exotic but fits well in the Pokemon world, especially for the son of Giovanni. There is also some speculation that the devs who created the Spaceworld Demo used the name Gnohio. Additionally there is suggestion of a tradition among some Pokemon livestreamers to use the name Gnohio as a rival in gen 2 games. As a result of these discussions, I have added a note detailing that he is also known in English as Gnohio. -{{unsigned|Bogavante}}
: As someone who frequents Pokémon streams I have never heard this, and the only reference between this name and the Pokémon series is from a RP board on steam. Post some proof. -[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 00:10, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

== ??? ==

??? is difficult to say actually. That sounds weird. Plus it doesnt make sense grammatically. I prefer to agree with the name Gnohio due to it being used by the Spaceworld developers. - {{unsigned|Doondook De Storm}}
:Show me where it's used by the Spaceworld developers. -[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 00:10, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

All right: https://imgur.com/a/V2ypUbA {{unsigned|Doondook De Storm}}

:If the thing about "Gnohio" (which I've never heard about, also I wonder how it'd be spelt in Kana) is genuine and not a hoax, then it's still trivia material at best. It's comparable to "Gyarao" for Blue. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 07:31, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
::Aside from this supposed screenshot of Shigeru Miyamoto responding to some email, there no proof of this present. Also, Shigeru Miyamoto was a producer for Pokémon Crystal but NOT Pokémon Gold and Silver. TCRF makes note that the Rival already has a pre-selected name but Gnohio is not one of the known names. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 09:04, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
:::Also, I find it highly suspicious that Shigeru Miyamoto would talk so openly about the Spaceworld Demo with some random fan. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 09:28, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Hm. Seems with Miyamoto's word, Gnohio has been confirmed as the beta name of the character. I think it vastly is superior to ???, because ??? is not possible to pronounce. It does not have enough vowels in it to be pronounced easily in the English language. Also it seems the site glitched out and deleted the edit I made earlier adding Gnohio to the names. So the debate now is, where should the name be included? I think it's good for the Names section and maybe a trivia question. What do you guys think? {{unsigned|Bogavante}}

:I agree. It should be put into the first paragraph, as well as Names and Trivia. {{unsigned|Doondook De Storm}}
::<nowiki>*</nowiki>sigh* Firstly, like I said in the above section, "???" is not meant to be taken so literally and seriously. "???" is not his name. It's just the game placing a placeholder until you've named the rival. Secondly, do you honestly believe that is Miyamoto? That's he'd respond to a random fan, in Englishno less. Seriously. How do you fall for that? I need a drink...--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:04, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
:::Nothing has been confirmed and given the wording of the email; this literally just points to someone impersonating Miyamoto in hopes that a fanon name gets taken as canon. If "Gnohio" had ever been a canon name, it would have been mentioned years ago in some continuity. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 14:10, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
::::Literally everything in this e-mail is dubious. Firstly, Miyamoto having such a private conversation with a random Pokémon fan without any associations with press or anything like this. Secondly, why would Miyamoto even talk so openly about a thing that Nintendo never officially acknowledged (and they seem to be doing everything to keep the leak secret - for example, the spreadsheet with Spaceworld Demo data has recently been taken down)? Thirdly, the phrase "Spaceworld developers" makes no sense. The name "Spaceworld demo" is merely a fan name for the leaked ROM, as it was presented on the Nintendo Spaceworld '97, it is not something that would be used internally by the devs. And who the heck are "Spaceworld developers"? It was just the usual Game Freak team of that time. Really, nothing makes sense in this e-mail. Either the author of the screenshot got tricked by someone, or they just fabricated this entire message to shill their own unbased ideas. It is also strange that this name was proposed by two completely new users whose only contributions are centered around the matter in question. Perhaps I'm overreacting, but I would check whether these two accounts aren't the same IP. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 14:36, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

I agree with the user who explained that ??? was simply a placeholder, although it's easy to comprehend why people are confused due to the character introducing himself as ???. I was just pointing out furthermore that this is an impossible option due to it being impossible to pronounce. How would one pronounce it, questionmarkquestionmarkquestionmark? Other than that, the Spaceworld details warrant further investigation and cannot be dismissed offhand. I wouldn't draw conclusions so quickly, instead we should see if this is the real Miyamoto, maybe try to get in contact with the real one to confirm it somehow. Given that it has been two decades since the Spaceworld demo was created, it doesn't seem odd for him to talk about it off the record, especially after it was initially leaked. Developers talk about finished products afterwards and reveal details all of the time. It could be a big breakthrough, I see a lot of nitpicking and a lot of logical errors. My guess is "Spaceworld developers" refers to the team who developed the Spaceworld demo, but you would have to ask Miyamoto that question, pure speculation. Also @Maxim, those details need to be ironed out elsewhere. I've welcomed the admins to look over our IP addresses after previously being accused of sockpuppeting by a different user (which is not true). {{unsigned|Bogavante}}
:There is absolutely ZERO reason to believe that is Miyamoto who even wrote that email. The English is very broken and written by someone who is more or less trying to pass off fanon as canon. Unless there is a valid and visible email that can be seen; there is no point discussing if that is actually Miyamoto. As admin ForceFire pointed out, the email is sketchy at best and otherwise not worth investigating or looking into. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 22:56, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
::Frankly, this whole Gnohio thing seems like you and/or your friend making something up and seeing if you can get Bulbapedia to accept it.
::You come out of nowhere with something no one else knows anything about, present a "screenshot" that could easily be faked, and you've at the very least coordinated with someone else to make it look like you're not just a lone crazy. That's fishy as all get out.
::All this means that it's not remotely on us to investigate anything. If you want to show us some proof, get something that you can ''link'' to on Miyamoto's official Twitter, or record him saying it in person or something. The way things look right now, that's about all that would be convincing. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:19, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
:::Not that there was any chance of "Gnohio" being a legitimate name, but through the power of Google, searching "gnohio" brings up very little in general, and almost nothing Pokémon related (the one I found that was, was a fanmade Eeveelution). So "Many Johto/2nd gen fans prefer to call him Gnohio" would be very incorrect. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 23:27, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

== Official figurine of Silver naming him... Silver ==

Bandai has started releasing figurines for the Gen II characters, [https://www.bandai.co.jp/candy/products/2020/1000140058.html including Silver]. This allows us to see the current name of this character in Japanese, which is... Silver (「シルバー」). While not surprising, at least now a source for the name is available.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 20:41, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

:So does that mean we should take down the [[Template:Unknown name|unknown name]] template from this page? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 05:16, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Leaf (game)

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SeanWheeler: /* To be or not to be that's the question. (Or why is that even a question in the first place?) */

==Leaf==
So who made up that name? --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 17:22, 2 February 2006 (CST)

:I want to know that too. Following the trend that the 1st and 2nd gen games set, her name should be Green, or Blue in the Japanese version. I'm guessing someone just chose one of the optional names from FRLG and gave it to her when they made the article. There's no real basis for her name being "Leaf", so shouldn't we go by precedence, as was done with Gold, Silver and Kris, and just call her Green?. -Shaddow Boy

::For an English Language Version, Green is accurate, however [[Green (game)]] already directs to Blue, does it not?--[[User:PikamasterADV|PikamasterADV]] 00:50, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

:Internal game data. There is a trainer, presumably used for debugging, with the sprite of the male player, and another trainer with the sprite of the female player. The male one is named Red, but the female is named Leaf for some strange reason. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 09:38, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
::English version or Japanese? --WikidSmaht 08:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Both. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:53, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
::::This isn't really a good habit to get into. If we start taking unused data as official canon, then Professor Oak started with Squirtle, the Safari Zone had no Pokemon in it 3 years after Red and Blue, and that the Lake of Rage is still a town. It just doesn't make sense. Fire Red and Leaf Green have officially fixed Green's (male rival's), name to that of the original, leaving lone Blue, the third version gal, without a truly official name. While logic would suggest we should call her Blue due to the Manga as well as Blue being the color generation's third game, we are stuck basing her name on what can only be called speculation. Unused Data =/= Fact. [[User:Fishman|Fishman]] 15:43, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::Er, no. When it comes to the games' canon, internal game data > manga name. Otherwise we should be calling Brendan "Ruby" and May "Sapphire".
:::::And no offense, but your analogies are the ones that don't make sense to me. The prototypical Safari Zone in GSC doens't have wild Pokémon because the wild encounters data was never written, not because it was originally meant to not have Pokémon. And the finished versions of the games retconned Profesor Oak into not being a fight-able trainer, and the Lake of Rage into being just a lake are, not a town. But neither the finished games not Nintendo officially revealed a name for the FR/LG female protagonist, so if her name during the development stages was Leaf (which in-game data seems to prove it was), then it should still be, since there isn't evidence to make us believe that it was retconned into another name. [[User:Spideym|Spideym]] 00:03, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Well we can't call her Blue, because [[Blue (game)]] is the rival. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 01:13, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
:If only GSDS would become reality, we'd know for sure, since then we'd have to find out what happened to her as well as Red. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:33, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
::We don't need another sequel. Besides her name, the answers are right here in front of us. The [[Blue (game)]] has officially been renamed as Green. All we have to do with the old article is point out that his English name used to be Blue, and was later changed back into Green. [[User:Fishman|Fishman]] 01:45, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
:::No, it has not been officially renamed. The rival's first default name for the Red version does not qualify as the character's official name. For all we know, his name could still be "Blue," just because it's not a default name doesn't mean it's been officially changed. Taking evidence from all the games supports that the rival is Blue and the girl is unnamed (leaving us with Green), but the idea that Blue has become Green is just fan speculation. I also agree that we can't go taking in-game data as official, and believe the name of the girl should be Green until Nintendo proves otherwise.--[[User:Mezase Master|Mezase Master]]
::::No to you, Mezase Master. First of all, you'll give the reason to most of us when we claim that Blue, this is, Japanese Green, is now Green outside of Japan as well since FRLG. Why do I say this? Because of HGSS and in-game data. And if internal game data says that her name is Leaf in both Japanese and English versions, then we have to assume it is as such. It's like you're claiming that Nintendo, specially the American and European divisions, don't screw up on the manuals and stuff. Even if such material is official, it doesn't mean it's correct and in-game data is the superior form of canon in the Pokémon franchise, so I say you're wrong. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 11:56, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::BTW, I e-mailed Nintendo of America back in late 2008 and asked them what was the official name of the female player character in FRLG. They told me that there isn't any and that players can name characters as they pretend (we all know that happens in every game except the rival in RSE), so we only have in-game data left. And if in-game data says that the name is Leaf, it's because it is. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 12:23, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Her name can't be "Green" because is the rival's name in the games already [[User:Haruka uzumaki|Haruka uzumaki]] 16:06, 24 September 2007
: Her name isn't "Green". It's "Blue". [[User:Fishman|Fishman]] 15:55, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

==Manga==
Okay, that manga information should definitely be in a separate article. But what series is it referring to? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 05:21, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

== RBG picture ==

So, supposedly she's based off of a picture from an old guidebook. Does anybody have an copy of this picture? I'm curious to see it. {{unsigned|Morgil27}}

== Blue artwork? ==

I found an image that appears to be the artwork described in the article. Is this it? [http://www.sailorteam.com/fakecard/starters/rgb.jpg]

It doesn't show her face, unfortunately. [[User:GigaMetroid99|GigaMetroid99]] 02:43, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:We're not sure it's her but she does resemble Blue (Green in the U.S)--[[Santa Claus|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチュウ!''']] 02:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::I was just wondering if that was the picture that the article described with:

''Leaf was supposed to be in the original Red and Green versions, due to the fact that on Nintendo's Official guidebook, it depicted a female trainer with long brown hair, a black dress, white gloves and short black boots, alongside the male protagonist and the rival. It is believed she was supposed to be in the game, but was left out for some reason.''

If that's the right image, it should be added to the article to show viewers how she would have looked.[[User:GigaMetroid99|GigaMetroid99]] 01:41, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:: I'm confused I thought the picture already was in the article.... I made a copy of it from somewhere...--[[User:Marhawkman|Marhawkman]] 02:10, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
::: Oh yeah, I remember reading in one of the articles something about how there are bits of code in red and green that treat the gender of the player character as a variable. wouldn't this be additional confirmation?--[[User:Marhawkman|Marhawkman]] 15:09, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

== Her back sprite ==

It may be me but her back sprite,and Red's,makes it look like she has brown eyes,despite what the trainer card shows. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 02:48, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

== Rival = Blue? or Green? HGSS ==

Well, being that the rival's name also complicates things, as TTEchidna said, if the Viridian City gym leader in Pokemon HeartGold & SoulSilver is Leader (or Gym Leader) Blue, then it's back to the drawing board, but if he's Leader (or Gym Leader) Green, the name of the female player character of FireRed & LeafGreen may very well be Blue then. {{unsigned|Team Snagem Jarrod}}
:Her name will be Leaf regardless. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:25, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Wouldn't the situation change if she appears in HG/SS under a different name? [[User:Tsum|Tsum]] 04:44, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
:It might but I think if the English translation calls the Viridian Leader "Green" to go with FireRed and Leaf''Green'', and has Red still in Mt. Silver, then this girl being Blue would confuse people due to Green being Blue in Gen II because before it was Red and ''Blue''. Leaf fits her best of all, unless they were to go a completely odd route and go with actual given names, in which case I'd bet that Red would be Satoshi in Japan and Ash here, Green is Shigeru/Gary, and Leafy-poo is Ashley. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:54, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

== The only one not to appear in the anime? ==

Wouldn't Soul count? Also,what about Mark,Mint,Wes,Michael,Lucy,Kate, and Lunick? Or do it just refer to the main games. Even so,what about Soul? Or is it still up for grabs that she is just a redesign of Kris,and not a seperate character? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 03:39, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
:Soul's game hasn't even been released. Of course she hasn't appeared in the anime yet. If she appears, she will probably show up during the 13th or 14th seasons, late 12th at the earliest, assuming they return to Johto after the Sinnoh League and the Sinnoh GF. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 04:36, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

== Apperence in HGSS? ==

If she's not, so should that be mentioned if she is not? Just saying b/c of the games comming out today.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:43, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:It doesn't appear so. Just Red. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:52, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
::Alright was that added to article?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:54, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Has anyone finished the game with {{ga|Kotone}} to confirm? All the places I've seen were finishing with {{ga|Gold|Hibiki}}. Maybe Leaf takes place of {{ga|Red}} when you play with Kotone. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 03:39, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Well many have confirmed her not to be in HGSS, should I undo the trivia just in case? She might be in beta?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 03:41, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::I think it is too early to say it, it's better to undo it until someone who has finished with {{ga|Kotone}} to confirm. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 03:43, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::Alright, I'll do unless you already did.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 03:46, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS (again) ==

Is it ''really'' confirmed that she is not in HGSS? Has ''anyone'' finished the game with <s>Soul</s> {{ga|Kotone}} to see if she is not in the place of Red? If not, the right thing to do is to remove this trivia. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 03:47, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:Okay, anyone answered, and people keep insisting on putting that freaking piece of trivia. It would be excellent if someone say ''where'' it is confirmed. I'm really sorry for bothering, but I just want to know if.someone.has.finished.with.kotone.and.proved.it. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 21:06, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::Could you please stop asking already? I'm sure they are working on it. Be patient. I would do it myself but my rom always messes up by the time I reach Violet City. I have to wait a few weeks until I get the real game. We are not saying that she's in the game and we are not saying that she isn't. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:15, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:::People have ripped all of the trainer sprites (including the event-only Giovanni... at least, I believe he's event-only) from the game. Leaf is not included in them. I don't have the game or ROM to go through the game with Kotone just to double-check, though... [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♪]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:17, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I know it, it will take time, but ''I'' am also working on it. But people are insisting to put that trivia ''"[...] she does not appear in the games."'', and we do not have clear confirmation yet. I'll hide it, okay? Sorry again for bothering. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 21:20, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Leave it hidden. Although, Tina's comment gives great weight to Red staying there. Not to mention that there are a billion and one Red references. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:26, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::Made it to Pallet. The mailbox says "Red's house". So yeah. I don't think she's here. However, there is a slim possiblity of her name being changed to Red in this game. But I highly doubt it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:11, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Actually, I think it's already been proven that Leaf isn't in HG/SS from what I know after watching the HG video with Kotone in it. I think it might be possible that the designers may have planned her to be in HG/SS. I don't know about you guys but do you think she could be in beta?{{unsigned|LeafGreen}}
::::::::Yeah, I actually {{tt|[http://community.livejournal.com/pokemon/3055811.html found her hidden in the game]|I'm totally trollin', guys.}}. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 05:32, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Well today, I made it to the top of Mt Silver as Kotone. Guess who was there? Give you a hint, it wasn't Leaf :D --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 07:50, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

== Absence in other canons? ==

From what I've seen, she only appears in Special, as Blue, and in Firered/Leafgreen. Not in the anime, not in any other manga, not in any cards, not any figurines, etc.. I've only ever seen two official arts for her, the regular one and one with her and a Combusken. Does she appear in any other media? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 21:00, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
:Can you provide a shot of the one with the Combusken? Or a link?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 01:35, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
:: [http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee357/Pichu_Chu/6588.jpg This]. I think that's from the Game Freak website, they have had tons of official art there. Well, she did appear in that "Pocket Monsters" manga, so that counts..But, only two manga counterparts, and her one game appearence? She still seems pretty absent. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 00:45, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
She appears in Pokemon Colosseum too or is that just a cameo or beta thing because Red, May, and Brendon have are there [[User:Pika Blue|Pika Blue]] 7:29, 3 November 2009
:Does she appear in a playable way, or is it just a background thing?--[[User:Champion Victoria|Champion Victoria]] 11:46, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
That i really don't know all i know is that her image is there somewhere i haven't played the game myself i think its part of some marketing ploy at the time to get people to buy LeafGreen and FireRed along with Sapphire, Ruby, and Emerald.Because like I said before May, Red, and Brendon are there too. [[User:Pika Blue|Pika Blue]] 12:20, 22 December 2009

== Can I add this? ==

That leaf's clothes are opposites to Red's. As in Red's pants are the same color as her shirt and her red's shirt is the same color as her skirt. Same as for his and hers hats. Basically its showing they are counterparts.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:14, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
::It seems notable enough to add, no other characters share that yet. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 05:30, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Alright then, lets see what happens.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 01:04, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
::::Seems like a ridiculously convoluted way of saying it. Considering that all of the other game characters who are male/female counterparts wear similar clothes... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:27, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

== Is this Leaf? ==

Where did this [http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee357/Pichu_Chu/botunennga.jpg image] come from? It seems to have something to do with this [http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee357/Pichu_Chu/6588.jpg one]. Those are the only two non-main official Leaf artwork I know of, they're all by Sugimori too. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 20:05, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
:Wow neat find, I'm not sure, it looks like leaf, umm is it just random artwork or like the TCG?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:06, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
::The first one I think doesn't have enough color to distinguish much--take off the brim of the hat and it would probably more resemble Dawn. The second one, however, as far as I can tell, is definitely based off this design (nevermind the fact that she's near a Pokémon heavily associated with May). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 04:28, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

== Blue eyes? ==

Doesn't Red's sprite show him with blue eyes too? Plus, her pre-game sprite shows her with brown eyes, doesn't it? Her back sprite seems to show her with brown eyes too. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 01:03, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

== Title ==

Could someone upload Leaf's Title sprite from FRLG? Red has his, but Leaf doesn't. --[[User:ShinyPikachu/Petition|Never Give Up]] [[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 13:03, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS ==

The article says her name was in the games. Does that mean she was supposed to be in it, or is her name just there for another reason? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 22:38, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
:You mean about the name "Leaf" is alternates for Dawn and Kotone? That just means they just share name. Or where soy talking about something out. Or do you mean about the dummied-out character? That was for FRLG.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 22:41, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
::It should say FRLG then, because in that context it makes it sound like they're talking about HGSS. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 18:45, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
:"Leaf's name was found in HeartGold and SoulSilver's data as a dummied-out opponent Trainer, alongside Red (whose name is Red as it was before)." Seems like they're talking about HGSS. Is this information correct anyway? >_> -- [[User:Zedd|Zedd]] 14:16, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
::It IS true. But that's in FRLG, not HGSS. That's where her name comes from also. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:50, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

== Credits sprite ==

It's a little bit botched. Can someone make a new animation?—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 23:11, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==
Both, Leaf and Red artoworks are holding pokeball and VS-seeker. This could be nice trivia? - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Banetoid}} ([[User talk:Banetoid|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Banetoid|contribs]]) ''

:No. There's nothing trivia worthy about that. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 06:10, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

==Cameo ==
First, sorry for my english
I haven`t played this game but I know that Drill Dozer was made by Gamefreak and I found this
http://www.spriters-resource.com/gameboy_advance/drilldozer/sheet/19334
I looks like one of Jill costumes is the same as Leaf.
This could be a trivia. {{unsigned|Virus bass}}
:Neat find. I think so.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 21:31, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

== Is this looking too much into it? ==

Leaf and Kris are the first female players of their regions and are not reused again?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:27, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:04, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

== Why Leaf and not Green? ==

Okay, honestly, this makes no sense. I understand that you're taking the internal data as evidence, but internal data shouldn't always be taken as canon. If we named every character based on the internal data, then Blue would be called Terry, and Barry would be called Cedric, among others. Their internal files are called that for whatever reason, but that doesn't mean that it should be their official name. I understand that your reasoning for using the internal data to support the name "Leaf" is because she's never officially named in game, unlike Red, Blue, Ethan, Lyra, Brendan, May, Lucas, Dawn, etc., but there [i]is[/i] evidence outside of game canon that supports the name "Green". Yes, most of the time you shouldn't take media outside of game canon as evidence, but that's exactly what you did when you decided to name the DPPt Rival "Barry", isn't it? And why did you do that? Because it was the most logical choice. The name "Barry" is present in the games as one of the preset names, and it's also supported in other media, media which also uses the canon name of Dawn, so it can be assumed that the name they're using for Barry is the intended canon name for him. Leaf's situation is no different. She's already been named "Green" in the manga (that is, in the English version, since the names of Blue and Green are swapped in Japan, but since this is an English wiki we use the English names), and it fits the Red/Blue/Green naming pattern, so why should we completely ignore those facts and instead go with "Leaf"?! It's just not logical. Whatever the verdict is, she'll always be Green to me, and she should be to everyone else, too. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 08:10, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:She's Leaf. Period and end of story. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:27, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::Why? Because you say so? Did you even read everything I wrote? You guys did this with Barry, so what's stopping you from doing it with Leaf/Green? —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 15:27, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::This has been discussed before, and there was a perfectly good reason for naming her Leaf. It probably says it in official guidebooks or something. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 18:55, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::I'm aware that it has been discussed before, but to my knowledge, the only solid evidence to support the name "Leaf" is from internal data. And like I said in my first post, there are so many things wrong with taking the internal data as an official name, especially when there's a much more logical name. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 19:33, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::This is like saying Brendan should be named Ruby. Leaf is what she's known as, that's the end of it. Nothing is stopping ''you'' from calling her Green, but that doesn't make it her real name. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 19:51, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::No, it's not at all like calling Brendan Ruby. Brendan has been officially named in the games, Leaf/Green hasn't. Since we don't have an official name to go by in the games, we should name her based on logic and evidence in other media. Green makes the most sense, and it's backed up by the manga. Leaf doesn't make sense at all. We know that she was planned to be in the Generation I games but never made the cut, so why would we call her Leaf, when the Fire/Leaf thing didn't come until Generation III? And Red isn't called Fire, is he? No, he's called Red, just like Blue is called Blue, and just like how "Leaf" should be called Green. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 20:09, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::Red isn't called Fire because he's been named in GSCHGSS. Leaf and the Green from Adventures are different characters, just like Red and Ash are. One's name should not affect the other. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 20:13, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::That's a different situation, though. And although Leaf/Green from FireRed/LeafGreen is a different character from the Adventures Green, they're clearly based on each other. Red and Blue have their canon names in Adventures, so why should we assume that Green's name isn't the canon one used? Yes, later characters are named after their versions in the manga, but those are different generations, where the naming scheme has been changed in the games. In Generation one, their names were all colors, so why should Red's female counterpart be any different? Also, you guys are contradicting yourselves. You used the anime's name for Barry because he didn't have an official name in the games, and that's A-OK to you, but when we're talking about Leaf/Green it's wrong? Why is that? You went with Barry because it was the most logical choice, that's why. It's supported by both the games (as one of the random preset names) ''and'' the anime, and the same anime also uses the official name for the character Dawn, so there's really no reason not to trust it. It was the best choice there was, so you used it. And Green is the best choice for the name of the female protagonist of FireRed/LeafGreen, and planned female protagonist of Generation I, so why aren't we using it? —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 20:24, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I hope you realize, Tyeforce, that when an admin (TTE no less...) says that it's the end of the convo, then stop. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:35, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Sorry, I'd just like to know why he's so set on the name Leaf when Green is the more logical choice. If he's the admin, then he must have approved the change from Pearl to Barry, so why is he sticking with Leaf instead of Green? And if I can't voice my opinion here anymore, can I take it to the forums, or will my thread just be locked and I'll be told to shut up with no reason given like what's happening here?—[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 20:44, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::As much as I'm inclined to disagree with his choice in naming, I believe he is acting in his rights to call the name into question. No one likes to edit a wiki that has draconian admins, after all. However, I believe he's failed to produce the evidence that's required: What is there, ingame, that says her name should be Green? Nothing, as far as I can tell. Barry at least had it as a default name in two games (Barry [the name] was in Platinum, right?). Leaf's absence from Pokémon Canon makes Leaf her only logical name.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 20:53, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::You talk as if Leaf/Green didn't have "Green" as an option for her name in her games, either. She did, just as is the case with Barry. But Barry's not the ''only'' default name he's given. It's just one among many. So what made Bulbapedia decide to call him Barry? The fact that the anime also calls him that. And the ''same exact situation'' can apply to Leaf/Green. Like Barry, she's never officially named in game, except for the list of default names, of which includes the name "Green". But she's also named Green outside of game canon, just like Barry was named for that exact same reason, so that's what we should call her. If somebody didn't decide to give her the name Leaf (yes, I know that it was based on internal data, but I've already given reasons as to why that can't be taken as an official name) and name this article so, then people would be calling her Green, the most logical choice. It's Bulbapedia's fault that her name is widely accepted as "Leaf" now, just like it was Bulbapedia's fault that so many people started calling the DPPt Rival "Pearl". You have to understand that what you say here greatly affects the entire Pokémon community, so it's very easy for false information to be taken as fact. Now, I'm not saying that it's a ''fact'' that Red's female counterpart is named Green, but there's much more evidence that supports it as opposed to calling her Leaf, and it's just more logical. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 21:09, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:(Gogo Indent Reset) Responding to each claim in order: But you see, it doesn't matter that Green is also an option because we could just as easily substitute in any of her other default names and argue it on that case. Green is only a default if you're playing LeafGreen; for FireRed, she'd just as well be called Fire. As far as Barry is concerned, the name is not only in Diamond, but also Platinum, which gives that name the ingame edge it needs over Clint, the top default name from Pearl. Your arguments that she is Green outside the game canon are pointless because she doesn't exist in any other canon; "Green" from Pokemon Adventures was established long before FireRed and LeafGreen were announced, and is thus an entirely separate character (if the separate wiki articles didn't already clue you in). Barry is named such because it is his default name in Platinum, giving Barry a 2-to-1 bias over Clint, and a 2-0 over Pearl. Leaf has no such out; in FR, she can be called Red or Fire, and in LG she can be called Leaf or Green. Any name is just as likely as the others (except Red, obviously). The ingame data in this case acts as final arbiter: it could have been literally any name and it would have won out (due to being present in both FireRed AND LeafGreen). I still don't see how Green is any more likely than Leaf; Leaf has a spot on the default names list AND the ingame data, where Green only has the default names list. You aren't providing the evidence you need. Probably because it doesn't exist.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 21:24, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::You're completely ignoring the fact that the character Leaf/Green has existed since Generation I. Not as a playable character, but in official artwork, and we know she was intended to be in the games, but just never made the cut. With that in mind, why would you go with the name "Leaf", which makes no sense, considering that the terms Fire and Leaf hadn't been introduced until Generation III? And I know that she's not the same exact character as the Green in the manga canon-wise, but it's clear as day that the two ''are'' the same character, just in different canon. Since her counterpart and rival have kept their color names throughout the generations, why should her name be an element and not a color? You can through game data at me all you want (by the way, where is your proof that the name "Green" only appears in LeafGreen, but "Leaf" appears in both?), but it just doesn't make sense. Since we no official name for her, have to think about what the developers' intent is. Do you think that they would call her Leaf, or the more logical choice, Green? It would appear that "Green" is the intended name, since it's used in the Adventures manga (which is the closest media to the game canon other than the games themselves), and it fits the color naming scheme. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 21:54, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::The flaw with your first point is if we go by that logic {{p|Shellos}} would be a Generation III Pokémon. If the character wasn't present in the games, no amount of intention is going to put them there. That puts your question to rest as well; Leaf because the Character didn't exist in Generation I. Saying it's clear as day means nothing; you're talking about 'the manga' like it's somehow more infallible than the games themselves (I must have skipped over the part of the game where my PC was kidnapped by Ho-Oh and spent several years in Johto). As for proof that Leaf is in both games, Leaf is the dummied out name for the character in both games (similar that Red is the default in both games for the dummied out character that had his face, as well as whatever the weird name that Blue had in FRLG). In the naming screen, the opposite game's name is '''never''' an option; You don't start up Red and see Blue as the default name for your character. So it would be reasonable to assume that neither Leaf nor Green are options for the default names in FireRed. Thus there are two separate instances of Leaf (ingame default name and the dummied out trainer with her sprite) and only one instance of Green (the ingame default name). Finally, you have yet to show any proof that Green is more suited than Leaf. Manga-based arguments are irrelevant, as they aren't the same character (even if their bases are the same).--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 22:13, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Just stop arguing pointlessly. People all over call her Leaf. Leaf is the generally excepted name. As for the reason, I don't know. You can wait for TTEchidna to explain why, but don't argue with yourselves, when you don't know all the facts. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 00:38, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::Not claiming that Japanese fandom is the be-all end-all by any stretch of the imagination, but I just want to point out that I have never seen ''any'' Japanese fans call Leaf "Blue." They usually call her, indeed, "Leaf" (リーフ). Other names I've seen from J-fandom have been "Fuguri" (フグリ) and "main character♀" (主♀)... never "Blue." Just thought I'd point that out. :3 [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 00:49, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::What's "Fuguri" mean? Sorry if that's obvious...--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 01:02, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::"Fuguri" comes from "Rii'''fu guri'''in" (or rather, LeafGreen). :3 [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 01:07, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
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 [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 01:34, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:Since it wouldn't let me post for some reason earlier today, I didn't get to post my reply to [[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]]. I'll go ahead and post what I tried to post earlier today but couldn't.

:Even if she wasn't physically present in the Generation I games, if she was, she would've been named Green, not Leaf. Since Red isn't renamed Fire and Blue isn't renamed Water in Generation III, why should we call her Leaf, instead of sticking with colors? And you're confusing me about the default name ''Leaf'''s presence in the games. At first you said that Green is only present in LeafGreen, but Leaf is present in both versions. Now you turn around and say that both Green ''and'' Leaf are only present in LeafGreen. Which is it? If the latter is true, then Green has just as much in game support as Leaf does, excluding unseen dummy files in the game data. You even brought up the fact that Blue's name in the game data is strange, not being Green like it should be (since that's his Japanese name). If we can't trust the internal data for Blue's name, then why should we trust it for Leaf/Green's name? With that said, if you exclude the internal data that can't be taken as fact and media outside of the games, then both names, Green ''and'' Leaf, have the same amount of supporting evidence for them (that is, assuming your first comment about the name Leaf being present in FireRed wasn't true, as you later suggested). They're tied, 1-1. So you have a choice to make. Should you go with the name that's present in placeholder data in the game (which can't be trusted, as shown by Blue's placeholder data), or should you go with the name that's also used in other media, ''and'' is more logical, fitting the color naming scheme? I think the choice is pretty obvious. Green is the name to go with. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 06:13, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
::Because she wasn't officially /in/ Gen I can she be inclusive to it. She existed as art and an idea that wouldn't come to fruition until Kris: a heroine choice. She may have "exist", but she is not a canon character until Gen III. This being her official debut, she has nothing to go on but these two games. She cannot be called Green, since FireRed is the Alpha game, making the "Green" character the rival (in essence). But seeing as there is no third game to possibly pawn her off on, the last bit is to chop the title in half, one name for the rival, and one name for the girl. Because the rival isn't officially 'Blue' by Gen III standards, since no Blue game exists in Gen III. Yes, he ''is'' Blue, in every English Gen that ''isn't'' the third. And since he's not Blue, but "Green," she, as a Gen III character, cannot be "Green". Hence. As she is a Gen III character only (so far), she cannot be named by the standards of Gen IV, only her own generation. If she had made an appearance in Gen IV...only ''then'' could her name be argued beyond the scope of her limited exposure. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 15:46, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Okay, now ''that'' makes sense. I hadn't thought of it that way. ''Thank you'' for actually providing logical evidence besides placeholder data that can't be trusted or fandom nonsense. If someone would have pointed that out a long time ago, I would've never argued over her name. So, again, I thank you for being the one to provide real, logical, valid evidence as to why she should be called Leaf. No longer will I call her Green. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 03:18, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:::: What's wrong with just saying this: Okay, so there's a "trio" from each Generation, correct? And each trio is named either with real names, or with version names. From Hoenn, we have Brendan, May, and Wally. From Sinnoh, we have Lucas, Dawn, and Barry. From Johto, we have Ethan, Lyra, and Emoguy. Anyways, since each "trio" follows a theme, meaning that the names have to be consistent with one another. Emoguy was given no clear name in HG/SS, so I can understand why we still call him Silver, since Ethan was previously known as Gold, but ANYWAYS, each name in the trio has to be consistent. Logically, what makes more sense: Red, Leaf, and Blue? Or Red, Green, and Blue? If it's that hard to notice people, '''the Kanto trio are named after colors''' Notice how "Leaf" is not a color. Just saying. EDIT: bah, screw it, who cares, it's just a name, afterall, Kris wasn't named Crystal. Leaf ftw! [[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] 16:17, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

== Fuguri ==

Do you know that it means "testicles" in Japanese? Whoever calls her that, he's probably NOT serious about this name. And this makes this not trivia-worthy. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:27, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:I do know that it means that, but fans do seriously call her by that name, and in a perfectly well-meaning manner. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 23:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:Kay, so some kind anons on 2ch were able to clear up for me the true origins behind the name "Fuguri." Here's the answer that I ultimately received.
::''The very first FireRed/LeafGreen thread was titled "FireRed LeafGreen" (ファイアレッドリーフグリーン) without the &.''
::''Because of that, people responded with, "FireRedLee & Fugurin (ファイアレッドリー＆フグリーン)? What an obscene title!"''
::''I have a feeling that's how the "Fuguri" thing started.''
::''Incidentally, the male protagonist was also called "Red Lee." Though now the names "Remake Red" and "Leaf" have permeated [the fandom].''
:So yes, while it started out as a joke because of the word "scrotum," it turned into a legitimate fandom name for her, and people do call her that in all seriousness, without any obscene intentions behind it. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 00:23, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
::I think it's somewhat like the fail pronunciation of Lyra's name as "Coat Own". They see "ko" and know "co", but "tone" doesn't read to them as two syllables, since it's an English word. And no one cares to read up on kana. You'd know someone meant Lyra if they called her Coat Own in a video. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:33, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

== PBR ==

You know, I've wondered this for a while. Red and Leaf appeared in the prerelease trailers for PBR; is it possible for players to assemble their outfits in PBR through the accessories, or not? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:34, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

== Leaf is her most common name? ==

The last trivia states this. However until recently she was mostly known as "Blue" in the fandom, due to Blue from Special. Even now she's still well-known as Blue. On a different note..Is a screenshot of her BR beta appearence article-worthy? Does anyone even have a somewhat high quality screen-shot? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 04:00, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
:As far as I know(which isn't much, as I came into the fandom during DP), she is known as Leaf. Her manga counterpart is the one most commonly known as Blue(for silly reasons). '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:20, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
::Leaf's Special counterparts name is Blue though..Anyway, Leaf up until recently has been synonymous with "Blue" or "Green" up until recently. Even now, a lot of people call her "Blue" on both sides of the fandom. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 22:02, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Actually, since The rival is known both as Blue and Green, It is safer to call her leaf.
And The PBR pic,the trailer Even on better sites like IGN, Is pretty low quality.
Unless someone has a better vid, we can't get a better picture. {{unsigned|Kanto Girl}}

== Early Design ==

I was looking on the internet, and found an image that looks like it could have been Leaf's original design. I cant upload the image, but I can give a link:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PokemonRedAndBlue?from=Main.ptitleevcce3c2

Go down to "What could have been" and click on female protagonist and you will see a pre design of Leaf. [[User:Iml908|Iml908]] 20:27, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
:[[Unreleased Pokémon and characters|We already have that]] [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 20:31, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

== Unknown ==

Shouldn't this article be tagged with {{template|Unknown name}}?
[[User:LurKasumi|LurKasumi]] 04:42, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
:In the internal game data of FRLG, her sprite is associated with the name "Leaf", just like the male character is named "Red", so it's valid. [[User:Duke R|'''|) u |( e''']] [[User talk:Duke R|'''®''']] 13:17, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

== Headwear ==

I remember that a few years back, this page had an interesting point of trivia. "If Leaf had been included in Red and Green with her original design, she would have been the only playable character to date without headwear." Well, that was the gist of it, but I'm sure it was worded better. Even now, 20 years after the original games, this is still true. Well, in the Playable Characters' default forms at least. Sun and Moon's protags are apparently able to remove their hats through customization. Could that be re-added? Or is it too random a trivia point to put down, especially since it's about an "if" rather than something that actually happened?
--[[User:BlackButterfree|BlackButterfree]] ([[User talk:BlackButterfree|talk]]) 02:42, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
:I would say not to re-add it. It's a pretty convoluted point, and like you said it never happened. [[User:Litwick96|Litwick]][[User Talk:Litwick96|96]] 02:51, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

== Comics ==

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What exactly are these comics? Some early comic book? {{unsigned|RubyLeafGreenCrystal}}
:It looks like it was from some sort of craft (like origami) book. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:38, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

== Leaf now called Green in Pokémon Let's Go? ==

Just read this now:

https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2018/11/7/18072704/pokemon-lets-go-trailer-red-blue-green-trainer-fights

It looks like '''Leaf''', who was just announced on the newslink above as making a guest appearance on [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]], won't be officially named Leaf but Green instead! But if Green was the Japanese name for [[Blue (game)|Blue]], then how will she be named in Japanese if "Leaf" is dropped for "Green"? (Also posted this on [[Talk:Player character#Leaf now called Green in Pokémon Let's Go?|Talk:Player character]].) [[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn (Pokémon Sun Trainer ID: 768426)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 14:33, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
:So far the only [https://pokemon.gamespress.com/THE-ELITE-FOUR-RETURN-WITH-A-FRESH-NEW-LOOK official news release] by Pokemon.com and their social media sites make no verbal mention of Red, Blue, and Leaf/Green. They don't even provide official clean renders of the artwork of the later four Gym Leaders, which the English trailer showed. Until we get clarification from Pokémon itself, or the game releases, we can only consider this idle speculation by Polygon.
:That said, if her name DOES indeed turn out to be Green, it will contradict what we considered to be the official source for Leaf's name after years of silence: [[a:File:Leaf and Squirtle artwork.png|her Kotobukiya ArtFx J concept art]]. - [[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]] 14:58, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
:: Whatever she will be called (probably Leaf) we should consider that the Let's Go games might take place in their own separate canon from the other core games (I don't deny they're main series, I question if they're a separate branch in the main series) since the new protagonists seem to replace the classic ones in Pallet Town while the classic ones are still existing and out and about.
::(and I don't mean a different timeline, but actually a completely different continuity like the anime and manga that does it's own thing different from the games)
::So perhaps in that case a separate page, for example Red(Let's Go) and the Red(game) page we have, coexisting as counterparts would be in place.
::It's still just speculation at this point of course, we'll have to wait and see...--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 08:41, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
:::Just wait until the games are released before you start suggesting all of this, please. We'll have the answers soon enough. Then we'll decide what to do. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 12:33, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
::::Well yes of course but I see no harm in brainstorming potential scenarios to be at least a bit more prepared at release for what may come.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 15:22, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
:Unless we see official confirmation that the LGPE character is the same character we currently call Leaf (alternate timelines nonwithstanding), LGPE is unlikely to affect this page's name. I doubt being "the female Gen I trainer" is enough to count as Leaf, because it would be similar to the {{ga|Kris}}/{{ga|Lyra}} situation. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 01:31, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
::Well, she is confirmed to be called Green in-game as seen in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPwtcdhlL3Q [[User:Sucoleo|Sucoleo]] ([[User talk:Sucoleo|talk]]) 08:41, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
:::Don't be funny. The game literally slaps us in the face that she's one and the same, by giving her an intermediate design between her Gen I and Gen III self. Don't grasp at straws. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 09:34, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
::::I agree that this is definitely meant to be the same character. Her top is clearly just inverted colours of her FRLG design, she's wearing shorts instead of a skirt and not wearing a hat. This change in design seems to be more of a difference like {{ga|May}} between her RSE and ORAS design than a {{ga|Kris}}/{{ga|Lyra}} difference. [[User:Tarawl|Tarawl]] ([[User talk:Tarawl|talk]]) 15:27, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::Whether Blue/Leaf is the same character or not, this does not affect Leaf as the official name of FRLG female protagonist. Yea, this is like Kris/Lyra case. Some people think that they are the same character, and Some people don’t. And Red(original/remake), Gold/Ethan, Elio(SM/USUM) and Selene(SM/USUM) are the same case also, although Bulbapedia has different treatments for them each. [[User:E9310103838|E9310103838]] ([[User talk:E9310103838|talk]]) 16:10, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::That's some pomfed logic to me. If it wasn't for the Kotobukiya figure, this issue would be non-existant. Different names for nameable characters exist, like they always did. There's absolutely no reason to split articles. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 18:00, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
::::Darn... had she be named Leaf like the figurine, that would have been more wise of Pokémon as to alleviate a bit the whole Blue/Green shenanigans that the fandom has been stuck with for years. I guess game-npc name takes preference over a figurine assigned name in this case I suppose...--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 19:08, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
:::It all comes down to Japanese names here. If (and only if) the LGPE character's Japanese name is リーフ, the two characters are one and the same. If the characters do not share a Japanese name, then there is nothing connecting the two, aside from both being derived from the unused Gen 1 girl. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 02:00, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
::::If you plan to maintain only one page, then hope that you use the corresponding official artwork, instead of using Leaf’s artwork and call this page Green. [[User:E9310103838|E9310103838]] ([[User talk:E9310103838|talk]]) 07:24, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::If they're two separate characters, a new page for [[Green (game)]] would need to be created. (It's currently a redirect to [[Blue (game)]], because of the localization name switch.) [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 12:02, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
::::Even if Green goes by Blue in Japanese instead of Leaf, everything else about the two still connects them together. she is design-wise obviously not a different character, Red and Blue aren't different characters either and neither would she be, ''unused Gen 1 girl'', Leaf and Green are all the same girl and have always been the same girl. Arguing otherwise is really unnecessarily grasping at straws. Unless Let's Go is of a different separate canon, then perhaps would it be in place for most characters to have a (Let's Go)version page, like how the anime versions of characters often have their own (anime)version page, (manga), Ash(M20) etc.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 17:24, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::Yep, I agree. It's clear that they're one and the same. This page itself already considers Leaf to be the same as the "unused Gen 1 girl" -- which is Green/Blue in Let's Go. Design-wise, this case is much different from the Kris/Lyra situation. Leaf and Green share the exact same design (brown hair, brown eyes, same hair, same shirt). It's just that the clothes are a little different. They're based on the same "unused Gen 1 girl". It's very obvious they're the same character. Kris and Lyra were different enough to warrant the split, but the same can not be said for Leaf and Green. The page should be renamed to Green. If anyone is still wondering, her Japanese name is indeed Blue (ブルー) in-game as seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J26t65DI7j0 [[User:Sucoleo|Sucoleo]] ([[User talk:Sucoleo|talk]]) 19:18, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::Basically this. It's so obvious that it's meant to be the same character, the only way it could be more conclusive is if Masuda or someone else outright states it. This is more like the Gold/Ethan situation over the Kris/Lyra situation where the new name just replaces the old one in canon (If Leaf could have even been considered canon) rather than a whole new character replacing in canon. It also makes the most sense as the canon name (Red, Blue, Green vs. Red, Blue, Leaf). [[User:Tarawl|Tarawl]] ([[User talk:Tarawl|talk]]) 20:29, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::Look at my side of the argument again. There is no official source indicating Green is derived from Leaf, and visually she's the unused Gen 1 girl with a few elements taken from Leaf. And on top of that, she has a different Japanese name despite Leaf being officially named in Japanese ''during the development of Let's Go''. Given what I've just said, any claim that Leaf and Green are the same character is pure speculation, and we don't deal in speculation. We waited for over three years for a source to say Zygarde was part of a trio despite it being "obvious", so there's no reason for us to claim Green is Leaf without a source. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 04:45, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::I agree with Bwburke94. I propose that we create a new page for the unused female character from Generation I and include information about Green from Pokémon Let's Go on that page. Leaf and Green seem to be strongly indicated to be separate characters; although Leaf is partially based on the unused character from Generation I, there is no evidence at the moment to suggest that they are one and the same. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 05:47, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::Sure. Let's split it into three - "the unnamed Gen I girl", "Leaf the FRLG character" and "Green the NPC". I also recommend making a separate article for the Kotobukiya figure, just in case. Or... I know, maybe let's telephone Junichi Masuda on the matter? Is John Gamefreak's nephew in da house?! *A Poké Ball came flying at you* --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 08:37, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::Dude, don't be like that. You make yourself look dumber than you make us look. We're trying to have a civil discussion about an issue on a Pokémon fan wiki. Being sarcastic like that helps nobody. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 10:03, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::I'm not the one who started talking insane. Really, the game slaps you in the face with obvious evidence, yet you people say "hurr speculation durr unconfirmed". If you need an official statement like "She is/isn't the same character", then in all seriousness, the only way is to contact someone from Game Freak, because official materials will most likely never give you that. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 11:46, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::If you have evidence, then by all means provide it. Keep in mind it needs to prove that Green is Leaf, but not necessarily that Green and/or Leaf is the Gen 1 trainer. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 12:51, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::::[https://twitter.com/revolocities/status/1063193075655237632 For the love of Arceus...]--[[User:YoHaNe|YoHaNe]] ([[User talk:YoHaNe|talk]]) 12:58, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::::I don't think you understood what I meant. The evidence needs to prove that ''Green is Leaf''. Not that Green might be Leaf, or that Green and Leaf share a character pose. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 13:18, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

== Is LGPE Green the same person as Leaf? ==

Starting a new section because the last one got a bit out of hand.

My argument is as follows: Green shares more visual similarities with her Gen 1 design than she does with Leaf, and shares her Japanese name with her Gen 1 design but not with Leaf. Because Leaf's Japanese name was given to her during the development of LGPE, she would have been named as "Blue" (ENG Green) on that figure if she were the same character as Green. Also, there are no official sources that state that Leaf is the same character as either version of Green.

This means that the following course of events is very possible: Nintendo/Game Freak decided to put Red/Blue/Green in LGPE. Because Red and Blue are based on their Gen 1 designs, they chose to use Green from Gen 1 instead of Leaf from Gen 3, despite the fact Green didn't make it into the finished version of Gen 1. Green did take some traits from Leaf, but is still a distinct character of her own.

If any of you can refute that statement, feel free to respond. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 13:39, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:My argument is that the Green we see in LGPE shares all physical features with Leaf and wears a hybrid outfit of hers and Leaf(these similarities were not the case with Kris and Lyra) and are both associated as part of the Kanto trio.

:Back when FRLG came out they updated the original trio, Red got a new outfit, Blue got a new outfit and unused gen 1 girl got a new outfit, she so happened to be named Leaf in the data so that is the name she got stuck with on here, but that holds no merit, Blue was named Terry in the data, so should there be a Terry(game) page? No, of course not. Had she be named Green back then, I'd highly doubt we would be having this discussion and everyone would easily accept that it is the same character just like everyone accepts that fact for Red and Blue.

:We never needed official sources that confirmed that Red and Blue from FRLG were the same characters from RGB, but we need one now for Green? I'm sorry but I'm genuinely baffled.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 14:20, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

::Your argument relies on the assumption that Leaf is directly based on the protagonist from the unused Pokémon art. The creators never confirmed this, only that she drew inspiration from that character. This new Green is inspired by both the unused character and Leaf, that part is true, but "inspired by" is not the same as "is the same character". There is overwhelming evidence to support that Red and Blue are the same characters as the original, especially because they have appeared in multiple games before this. I would also like to add that Leaf's FR/LG appearance is drastically different from the unused character than Red and Blue's appearances compared to their Gen I counterparts, so it seems to me that Game Freak decided to recycle some old concepts while creating Leaf and then return to their original plan for Pokémon Let's Go. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 14:28, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:::You people really overestimate Kotobukiya's value. It's not a Game Freak source (and we don't know their philosophy of naming player characters - for example, if they made a GSC male character figure and named it "Gold", would you split Ethan's article into two? Or if they made an USUM-based "Ailey" figure?) and the FR/LG data name is just unused beta content. The pose and design of her LGPE appearance makes it blindingly clear that they meant Green to represent both the FR/LG girl character and the unused Gen I girl. Of course they wouldn't make her appear in her full FR/LG attire, because that'd be inconsistent with Red and Green's designs in these games. But they gave her some FR/LG elements in order to make her recognizable (not that it was ever a problem to recognize her - to me, Red's Gen I and Gen III designs are way more apart than Green's, but that's of course an opinion). How is it speculation? It's simply logic. I know that Bulbapedia loves denying things until an unambiguous answer is shoved into our faces. But treating the two as separate is just as speculative than treating them as one (I'd say way more speculative, considering that GF is obviously trying to bring their appearances together). They are different characters, but only because of multiverse and in this logic, we would have to split literally everyone. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 14:37, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

::::I propose a compromise because this argument is getting to be ridiculous. We rename this page to Green, but restructure the entire page, starting from the unused character art from Generation I, include a section about Leaf, and finally get to Pokémon Let's Go. In the page itself we should address the character's complicated history. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 14:41, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:::::That I find better than splitting into separate pages--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 14:48, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:::::: I never imagined that a small inquiry I made a few days ago would lead to a bigger argument than the {{ga|Elio}}/{{ga|Selene}} vs Ray/Ailey debate that started one year ago and lasted until about a month ago. Welcome to Bulbapedia again! [[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn (Pokémon Sun Trainer ID: 768426)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 15:03, 17 November 2018 (UTC) (P.S. Splitting this thread into two sections was a wise idea, [[User:bwburke94|bwburke94]].)

:::::::There would also be the header at the top of the page about it having been proposed to split the page into separate pages with the Shedinja.--[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 15:54, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

::::::::IMO, “Leaf” and “Green” are clearly the same character. Green’s design is a hybrid of the designs of the female player character from FRLG and the beta character from Red and Blue. (Her dress is black like in RB, and it has the same ring as the top as it does in FRLG. Additionally, the yellow bag and the hairstyle (without the hat) is the same from FRLG.) She was revealed alongside Red and Blue and she plays a similar role in game to both of them. Heck, her new name even is parallel to Red and Blue’s. It makes sense that the female player character, the male player character, and the rival would be highly connected. I think that just because her new name doesn’t match with a fan name that was given to her long ago and picked up by a non-GAMEFREAK source should not dictate that two characters who, by examining the designs and the roles they play, are the same character, are NOT the same character. But that’s just my opinion. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 16:07, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:::::::::I had just resolved the argument with a compromise and you come in to initiate it again. *sighs* --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 16:11, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::I just wanted to provide my input :/ --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 16:14, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::Well, I'm glad at least that you did so in a reasoned, professional manner, I would honestly have rather had the original discussion with you involved. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 16:19, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::Thank you :) --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 16:23, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::I'd accept the compromise of covering them both on one page, ''as long as'' we continue to call the FRLG character "Leaf". Within the context of FRLG, only one character can reasonably be called "Green" and it isn't her. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 16:44, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::I respectfully disagree... If a canon name is brought in for an official character where there was none before, I don't see the point in continuing to refer to the character as an older fan name for the older games. (For reference, there was a similar discussion at [[Talk:Ethan (game)]] where there was a discussion over the names Gold vs. Ethan.) Besides, there really isn't any other character who can reasonably be called Green in FRLG— we refer to the rival character in FRLG as Blue even though the games are Fire''Red'' and Leaf''Green''. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 18:41, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::In that case, it's not a compromise at all, is it? [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 18:56, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::To Bwburke94: Yes, that is true. I see the point of compromises, but I think it might be better to have more accurate information in this scenario. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 19:36, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::I'm agreeing with renaming because it seems to be her new official name. Along with an edit to the name origin section that would explain the naming confusion. [[User:Tarawl|Tarawl]] ([[User talk:Tarawl|talk]]) 20:01, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:What was the reason why we called the character "Leaf" in the first place, anyway? All I know is that it comes from the female name list of LG, which contains both "Leaf" ''and'' "Green" just like the male name list. Isn't "Leaf" just something fans generally agreed upon in the absence of a single, official name? If that's the case, I see no problem renaming the page "Green". [[User:Immblueversion|Immblueversion]] ([[User talk:Immblueversion|talk]]) 19:33, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::It was a placeholder in the data of FRLG. It's addressed on her page.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 20:04, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::Indeed. Nintendo never officially referred to her as that; we only used the placeholder name because we didn't have a more "official" name. Now that she has finally been given a proper name by the games, I see no reason to keep the current name. [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 21:21, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::The reason she is called Leaf is because it makes more sense within the context of FireRed and LeafGreen. Red and Green in those games are the protagonist and the rival, and since there is no WaterBlue, it makes sense to call the female protagonist option "Leaf" because that way it still parallels the rival's name "Green". And once again, as Bwburke94 and I have said numerous times, we don't HAVE accurate information for this topic. The indication, from our perspective, is strong that there isn't proof Leaf is the same character as Green, but we are willing to come halfway.--[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 21:34, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

::::::Sorry if I am wrong, but I thought that the Rivals (from Gen. 3 onwards, including FRLG and HGSS) were all '''the same character''' as the player character (in, for instance, HGSS, if you chose Ethan, your rival would be Lyra; if you chose Lyra, your rival would be Ethan). [[User:CherubAgent1440|CherubAgent1440]] ([[User talk:CherubAgent1440|talk]]) 13:41, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

:::::In FRLG, the rival's name is "Blue" in the west and "Green" in Japan. This is reversed for the female protag where she is now confirmed to be "Green" in the west and "Blue" in Japan. It makes 100% sense for the female protagonist to be called Green (ブルー in Japanese). In fact, the name "Leaf" doesn't make sense in a naming standpoint due to them being named after the 3 colours of the games. 21:42, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:::::Depends on what you consider proof, I think there is an abundance of proof.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 21:49, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:::::What proof do you need to accept that they're the same character? Just look at them! Their faces, hair, eye color and bags are identical or close to it, and the top of Green's dress is clearly designed to look reminiscent of Leaf's shirt, except color-flipped.[https://www.serebii.net/letsgopikachueevee/rgb/green1.jpg][https://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/4/48/FireRed_LeafGreen_Leaf.png] Red had more changes between his original design and his FR/LG redesign. Do we also need proof that "Gold" and Ethan are the same character? [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 01:56, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

::::::I am afraid this is getting out of hand again… All the debate and contention generated by the Elio/Selene-vs-Ray/Ailey controversy in one year is now being surpassed by this discussion in less than a month. Time to close this section and start a new one below… [[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn (Pokémon Sun Trainer ID: 768426)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 04:06, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

{{indent}}…which I just did right now. The previous thread became just as long as the first one (roughly four 768px-tall browser screens long). And since I was the one who initiated the conversation in the first place, I decided not to take an official stance in this debate — I’ll let you duke it out while I watch the ongoing events. Welcome to Bulbapedia again! [[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn (Pokémon Sun Trainer ID: 768426)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 04:06, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
:You don't have to create a new section when a discussion gets too long for your liking. Just leave it be. If the chain of comments is getting to confusing, just reset the indents (it's what <nowiki>{{indent}}</nowiki> is for).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:19, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

::My comment above was deleted, so I am re-posting it here to continue the above discussion. It makes sense in the context of the series as a whole, but for FR/LG Leaf makes more sense as a counterpart to Green, since a "WaterBlue" doesn't exist in either Japan or America. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 05:40, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
:::... So what if there is no WaterBlue. An identical looking girl exists in association with Red and Blue, it makes sense for the franchise if that girl is the same girl like the other two boys are the same boys.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 10:27, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

::Just to contest a common point being brought up here: Kotobukiya is not a "Game Freak" source, but this does not make it unofficial. Someone at The Pokemon Company obviously had to take a look at the product before deciding that it was an accurate representation of the franchise and gave it the official seal of approval. TPC has a storied history of strictness and standards in interacting with these affiliates. Despite Let's Go already being in development at the time of the figure's conception, they clearly had no issue with Leaf as the character's name. Unless the staff is interested in introducing a magical "degrees of canonicity" system, I don't see why it should be discredited. There are a wellspring of things on the wiki considered canonical by current standards that haven't been directly echoed by Game Freak gospel, but have been run by TPC/TPCI and are considered fine--[[User:ThePacisBack|ThePacisBack]] ([[User talk:ThePacisBack|talk]]) 10:36, 18 November 2018 (UTC).
:::Kotobukiya is definitely an official source— we used it for the names of Elio and Selene— but information in the games themselves that would contradict what something like Kotobukiya says would definitely override it. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 13:48, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
::::Problem is, there is no "information in the games themselves" to state that Leaf and Green are the same person. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 14:31, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::What would be information in the games that states that Red in LGPE is the same one as the one from RGB or FRLG?--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 14:46, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::His name, for one. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 15:47, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
::Leaf indeed as an official name now. Not only the names of all Kotobukiya collections are taken from the official name. (Even the official names of several characters are used for publicity for the first time. Before that, they were only called male and female protagonists in publicity.) They even invited Ken Sugimori to draw the model of Red's figure of Pokemon Center Original. Prove that the name they adopted is recognized by GF. Regardless of whether Blue(Green) and Leaf are in the same character or how to deal with this page, I Just want to defend the name "Leaf" XD. Unlike Fire(FRLG Red) as an fan name and Ray/Ailey as half official names (They have never been officially confirmed). By the way, Gold(Jimmy) and Ethan obviously in the anime as different characters XD [[User:E9310103838|E9310103838]] ([[User talk:E9310103838|talk]]) 15:46, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::The gen 1 protagonist was named Satoshi and the rival was named Shigeru, then the rival in FRLG was named Terry, seems like if Leaf should be a separate character than so should good ol' Terry, Satoshi and Shigeru--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 16:05, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::Danyyel, I feel like a more accurate comparison would be the male player character in GSC vs HGSS: How do we know that "Gold" and Ethan are one and the same? The answer, at least to someone around the time that HGSS came out, is common sense. Very similar design, same role in-game, etc. Similar case with Elio vs. "Ray", or "Leaf" vs. the scrapped character from Red and Blue, for that matter. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 16:09, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::(responding to Bwburke94) Sure there is; their designs. PLG Green is literally Leaf with different clothes and an extra fringe on her forehead. Can you name two player characters who look identical like Green and Leaf do yet are considered separate characters? [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 19:03, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

{{indent}} At the moment, we're keeping it on one page. However, in contexts referring to the FRLG protagonist, she should be referred to as "Leaf", and in contexts referring to the LGPE NPC, she should be referred to as "Green" (in the same manner as we treat items and moves that have been renamed). If/when the Kotobukiya figurine gets released by TPCi in English, this decision will be reevaluated. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 03:46, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

:I Also think we should have the article separation header with the Shedinja ("this article has been suggested to be split into Green (game) and Leaf (game). Please talk about it on the discussion page..."). It HAS been suggested and it's only fair we give notice so the choice can be re-evaluated when there's more information in the future. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 12:52, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

::I added the page splitting header for pages that have been suggested to be split into multiple articles. As it HAS been suggested, it's only fair; this does not mean the page will actually be split yet. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 10:16, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

:::Honestly I don't think they should be split, and should be just simply referred to as Green. Leaf and Green have similar facial structures, hairstyles, hair color, eye color, and even the same bag. Heck, both her and Red's VS models in Pikachu & Eevee are both nods to their sprites in FRLG. As for her outfit, in the context of Pikachu & Eevee both Red and Blue both use their Gen I designs, so it does make sense that Green's outfit is designed similarly to the prototype female character. As for her name, it's most likely a simple establishment that her name is Green. Similar to Ethan in GSC, it was never established in the games her name was Leaf. Leaf only came from internal game data, which referred to her as such. Granted Kotobukiya did announce a figurine of her under Leaf, but that's all it is, an announcement. For all we know the name could be changed when her figurine is officially released. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 16:45, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

:::It seems to me that the only argument that people have in favor of them being separate characters is their different names. Which, if you ask me, is a pretty weak argument, seeing how she was never called Leaf in the games. PLG was the first time the games gave her a canon name; Leaf can be seen as more of a placeholder name in lieu of a real name, like Gold. Everything else about Leaf and Green supports them being the same character, with their nigh identical designs, and the fact that Green is paired with Red and Blue in PLG. I agree that she should only be referred to as Green by the article. Moreover, while PLG Green's look is clearly based on the design of the unused female player character from Gen I, they altered it to make her look more like Leaf. If Game Freak had intended for her to be seen as a separate character, you would expect them to make her look ''less'' like Leaf, not the other way around. [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 21:24, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

::::As far as Game Freak is concerned, they seem to be treated as separate characters, although Leaf is based on Green. Even in materials published since the release of Let's Go, merchandise and references that allude to the character from FR/LG are referred to under the name "Leaf" (or are otherwise not named at all, like in SSBU) while materials referring to the character from Let's Go Pikachu and Let's Go Eevee refer to her as Green (or Blue, in Japanese). The blue on Green's clothing is a reference to her Japanese name, it's not intended to make her look more like Leaf. Even discounting these facts, there is a lot of circumstantial evidence that suggests they are not meant to be the same character, such as the fact that Leaf is used in media as interchangeable with Red (e.g. Super Smash Brothers Ultimate) and does not have much of a personality, while Green is given her own, more mischievous personality and does not merely function as a mirror to Red (if Green and Leaf were indeed interchangeable, either the FR/LG character would be more fleshed out in her appearances or Green would only repeat "..." in Pokémon Let's Go). If nothing else, separating the pages into Leaf and Green would make it easier for casual Bulbapedia users to follow the content; especially if the Green page incorporated information about the unused player character that we currently have under the unused character designs page. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 05:42, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

:::::Even if they are the "same character", there is enough variation in the portrayals of her between games that it could warrant two separate articles. It's similar to how there's separate pages for Ash from the main show and Ash from the I Choose You universe. The FR/LG portrayal of this character is different enough from the Let's Go portrayal of the character that it's easier to follow if there are two separate articles. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 05:53, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

::::::So then by that, then should the player characters that act as NPCs, such as Ethan, Lyra, Dawn, Lucas, etc. deserve their own articles as NPCs since they exude a personality other than silent protagonist and aren't mirrors to the player character when so. Green can be easily seen in a similar vein to the aforementioned player characters when they're NPCs, since Red has already been long established to be the canon player character of the Gen I games and their remakes. Also why are you using a game that isn't even developed by Game Freak as proof that Leaf and Green aren't the same? Smash Bros. Ultimate is developed by Sora, Ltd. and Namco Bandai, not Game Freak. Lastly, the only thing that refers to Green as "Leaf" is the internal data (which isn't very consistent, and isn't used as a basis for naming characters, ala Barry, Elio, and Selene), and the Kotobukiya figurine '''''announcement''''', as in the figurine hasn't been officially released, and the name could potentially change once it's released. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 18:05, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

:::::"The blue on Green's clothing is a reference to her Japanese name, it's not intended to make her look more like Leaf." < The blue sections on PLG Green's clothes reflect the pattern on Leaf's shirt. Their chest areas look really similar, except color-flipped. You think this is a coincidence? There's also the fact that PLG Green was given the same face and eyes as Leaf, despite her original design having a different face.[https://www.serebii.net/letsgopikachueevee/rgb/green1.jpg][https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Kensugiart4.png] You could argue that her face was redesign to match Sugimori's modern style, but that alone wouldn't explain why her face is a copypaste of Leaf's when other female characters drawn by Sugimori have different faces and eye colors. [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 00:35, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

== Infobox picture ==

Given the unusual nature of this article post-move, would it make sense to use LGPE Green's model for the infobox picture? Having a picture of "Leaf" directly below the name "Green" is a bit weird, but LGPE Green doesn't have any official art that I know of... [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 09:00, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

There's concept art and she'll most likely have official art down the road whenever they decide to use that. The concept art will most likely be used in the infobox until the official art releases, while the FRLG art would be sent to the "other art" infobox near the bottom of the page. I'd be completely fine if all characters had main series designs carried on the main info box though like how Pokemon show their forms, with the current design being the biggest image on it. [[User:TrainerSplash|TrainerSplash]] ([[User talk:TrainerSplash|talk]]) 06:24, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

There is this [https://twitter.com/Paulrobertryan/status/1066694445167517698 settei art...] But in the art-book there are [https://nintendosoup.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/pokemon-letsgo-red-green-official-art-1.jpg more proper individual artworks more befitting for the infobox], there are ones for Red and Blue and I would assume then also for Green. I suppose we wait for the art-book.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 10:58, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Some of the "proper" (i.e. non-settei) arts may also be in the Strategy Guide (English and/or Japanese), in the main walkthrough part. A good quality scan would be much appreciated. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 21:53, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

== The "Green/Leaf" title is REALLY necessary? ==

I don't understand why there's a whole bureaucracy with her name compared to all the other characters.

Honestly... she was NEVER called "Leaf" in any official media. This name was taken from the internal files of the games, which is understandable to use this name until the present time, because it was the closest of a name that we had for her.

But it was never completely introduced into the canon of story, it was always a conjecture that the fandom settled over time. But now that she's finally got her name formally introduced as "Green/Blue" in the games, it seems that this commodity is hindering leaving the name "Leaf" aside.

The same applies to the character "Silver" as we believe it to be his name on bases that are just conjecture. If he has an official name one day, chances are it will be something different. Will we simply put on his page: "Canon name/Silver"? Doesn't sound professional to me.

It's been revealed that her name is Green/Blue, so be it...
Just put in the trivias that her files on FireRed/LeafGreen is named "Leaf", which may be just a "provisional name" which is perfectly common in games archives. [[User:SuzukiTenma|SuzukiTenma]] ([[User talk:SuzukiTenma|talk]]) 18:35, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
: I think a lot of people are getting hung up on the announcement of her Kotobukiya ArtFx J figurine, which refers to her as "Leaf", rather than "Green". Granted it's only an announcement and the name of the figurine could change once released, however the games should definitely take precedence for names of characters. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 23:07, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
:: My argument does revolve around the figurine, but also around the fact that there's no evidence of the two being the same character. My view on this has always been that Leaf and Green are two separate characters derived from the unused Gen I trainer. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 02:53, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
:::If "Leaf" and Green were intended to be separate, then their designs should reflect that, similar to Kris and Lyra, yet they don't. If a simple outfit change is enough to make a whole new character, then, for example, May from RS is not the same from E, and neither are the same from ORAS. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 01:54, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
::::See my response to the Gold/Ethan query below. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 01:42, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
: I agree there isn't much sense in keeping "Leaf" in the infobox and opening paragraph. Even with the Kotobukiya figure being named that, it was never used in the games, so it should be irrelevant. As said, it's just a placeholder name. I recall Red being officially called "Ash" ages ago in a poll asking about what Nintendo characters players would like to see Smash, yet we're not calling him "Red/Ash" in his infobox, are we? [[User:Ericss|Ericss]] ([[User talk:Ericss|talk]]) 00:56, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
:: And {{ga|Ethan}} was called Gold until HeartGold/SoulSilver came out but there's no references to his old name. There's no Ethan/Gold in his infobox, and the article consistently called him Ethan, even in places talking about GSC. And the Pokémon Gold manual has called him Gold, not just in screenshots but also in the story page. I don't know if the Pokémon Silver manual called him Silver in the story summary, but Leaf/Green is a similar situation to Gold/Ethan. Ethan was Gold for a decade. Green was Leaf for fourteen years. And they got renamed by their appearance as an NPC. People are arguing that the Green from Let's Go is a different person from Leaf, but if that's the case, could Ethan be a different person from Gold? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 05:45, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
::: I'll respond to both Sean and Sinjoh here. Gold/Ethan have a different name but basically the same design, while May has the same name ''and'' a very similar design across all three of her appearances. In fact, Emerald May is a direct palette swap of RS May. Meanwhile, Leaf/Green have both different names and different designs. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 01:42, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
::::What do you mean they have different designs? As I and others said, PLG Green is ''identical'' to Leaf besides the clothing. Red and Brendan's redesigns had ''more changes than her.'' [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 03:44, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
:::::I strongly agree... Just look at Elio, his redesign in Ultra is very different than his original design in SM, yet we are still considering him the same character, as we should continue to. I don't see why we have to apply a different set of logic to this character just because a placeholder name has been replaced with an official one. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 18:24, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
::::::The difference with Elio/Selene is that we have an official source to state they are the same characters. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 08:17, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
:::::::Wrong, Selene and Elio are only referred to as such in their SM designs, not their USUM designs. All the evidence people brought regarding their names comes from material that refers to material involving SM, not USUM. Also, you have yet to answer how "Leaf" and Green have different designs past their outfits, as they look very similar to one another. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 12:04, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
::::::::Yep, AFAIK the SM designs are the only ones that have been referred to as Elio and Selene. The names Ray and Ailey have been used in prerelease media for USUM. So the case is the same here; why do we need to use different logic for Green? --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 13:43, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Sorry if i'm getting the whole context wrong, but going by that whole rationale, shouldn't we also apply "Brendan/Landon" to [[Brendan (game)]], since we have the [[Landon (Groundbreakers 41)|Landon]] figure from the TFG? (which is clearly intended to be based off the 'playable' Brendan from Ruby)

Personally, I'm opposed to this whole "Green/Leaf" and "Brendan/Landon" thing.

IMO, '''Green''' should be her main designation for most uses to avoid unneeded convolution.

I don't think insisting on using "Leaf" within the context of FireRed/LeafGreen holds much ground any longer. If we use the internal data to justify that, we'd have to use Terry as [[Blue (game)|Blue]]'s name within the context of FR/LG too. Otherwise "Leaf" is just one of her many default names (as valid as "Fire", "Green", "Red", "Hillary", "June", "Rey", etc)

While figures ARE official and directly based on the games, they're just interpretations, supplementary (and not integral) in nature.

Thus, I think we should only use "Leaf" in sections referring to the Kotobukiya figure, for now. -- [[User:Yagamitaichi|Yagamitaichi]] ([[User talk:Yagamitaichi|talk]]) 02:33, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

:The reason I believe that this should be split into separate pages is because I feel it would make it easier for users of Bulbapedia to follow, especially given the elaborate and complex history of this character. We can retitle the page to just "Green" if you want, but too many articles on this very wiki refer to this character as "Leaf" to simply change the name. Nobody calls Brandon "Landon". I insist that we continue to refer to the character from FR/LG as just "Leaf" on the page. I also think it is very important to start this article with information on the unused character from R/B/G/Y because this page is a mess at the moment. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 02:47, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
::Yagamitaichi, I like your solution: refer to her as Green within contexts of LGPE and FRLG, and as Leaf for the figure for now.

::I don't really see the point in making a page split for two iterations of the same character IMO. It's much simpler and easier to follow to keep all the information on her on one page. Let's just change everything to Green apart from references to the figure. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 02:52, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

:::We do not have PROOF that they are the same character, but even that's besides the point. You are also ignoring that we resolved this issue with an earlier compromise (make one page but refer to her as "Leaf" in the context of FRLG) and people keep bringing the topic back up to try and push their view. The reason being that Green is clearly an attempt to revive the old unused character, while Leaf may or may not be a separate thing entirely. If it was "so obvious" they were the same character the whole time, why keep information about the unused character on a separate page until the release of LGPE, which doesn't prove anything other than to reintroduce the idea of the character of Green? --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 03:20, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
::::FWIW I think people should get to share their own opinions about the matter. If their opinions are, like mine, that we should be using one name for the two iterations of this character, then so be it.

:::: I do remember that the unused character's information was, prior to this whole debate, on this page, and I believe that it still should be, as it is a clear predecessor Green, but I don't understand how that changes anything about Green or "Leaf". If anything, IMO, it only serves to cement that Green from LGPE and Green from FRLG are one and the same.

::::I'd like to go back to your first sentence though. I hope this doesn't come across as rude, but how is Green vs Leaf any different from any redesign for a main character in the past, many of which are even more drastic than this? --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 04:01, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

:::::Although I still stand by my opinion, I am grateful to you for being civil and courteous on the matter and for discussing this in a rational way. Of course people should be allowed to share their opinion; however, I think we should stick with the compromise for now. To answer your question, the difference is in the complicated history of the character. The original unused character was never given a name or even made canon, and so everything that has come after, be it Green or Leaf, can only be seen as interpretations of the character. The Gold/Ethan thing doesn't count because "Gold" was an established character from the beginning, and the Brandon/Landon thing doesn't count because Brandon was an official name and an established character by the time of that figure's release. The LGPE Green was given her name as a reference to Pokémon Adventures and to canonize the unused character, which suggests, at least to me, that they intended for Leaf to be a separate character. Since we've been treating Leaf as a separate character from the unused character from the time of FRLG's release to the time of LGPE's release, I think we should stick with treating them as separate characters for consistency. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 09:35, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
::::::I think I understand your position a little bit more. However, up until November 16 of this year, information on the unused female protagonist was on this page-- we had been treating them as the same up until then, as I also believe we should continue to in the future. Additionally, I think that "Gold" from GSC was just as much of an established character as "Leaf" from FRLG. I don't really think that LGPE Green was given the name "Green" to canonize the unused character and to reference Pokémon Adventures, as she didn't really have a canon name prior to LGPE, just a placeholder name that was widely adopted by the community.

::::::Basically, at least from how I see it, she didn't have a canon name before, and now she has one which is more in line with her [[Red (game)|two]] [[Blue (game)|counterparts]], and she also has a design which merges aspects of her two older designs.--[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 15:59, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

:::::::I second this. Naming her after Pokémon Green/Blue is only natural, after they named the male protagonist and rival after the other versions. The naming scheme isn't exclusive to Pokémon Adventures, so I don't see it as a reference to it. In fact, that wasn't even the only manga to name her that. Her counterpart in Pokémon Pocket Monsters[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Blue_(Ruby-Sapphire)] is called Blue too, despite being clearly based on Leaf from the remakes. [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 02:39, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

:::::::::Obviously they can be the same people. The USUM artbook even has a picture of Elio and Selene (SM style) direct replacement for new clothing. [[User:E9310103838|E9310103838]] ([[User talk:E9310103838|talk]]) 00:21, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
{{indent}}So the way the article is currently written, it seems to be treating Green’s iterations from FRLG and LGPE as the same character. Putting my personal opinions on whether they’re the same character or not aside, this still to me seems super confusing. I know I’m beating a dead horse but honestly it’s ridiculous to have two names for (what we are treating as) one character. Assuming that they’re the same character, why does her being explicitly given a name in LGPE not override whatever Kotobukiya decides to name their figure, especially before it’s even officially released? Using two names for one character is honestly just confusing as hell to read, and the fact that one is from the games explicitly and the other is not just adds to that.

We should use one name universally if we’re going to treat Green as one character, which seems to be what BP is wanting to do. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 13:14, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

== To be or not to be that's the question. (Or why is that even a question in the first place?) ==

So, let's have one final discussion regarding any controversies on "Leaf" and "Green" being the same person or not (let's not confuse with this with the Green/Leaf naming controversy, which is a different, albeit closely related issue). The older ones seems to have become overlong and riddled with personal opinions without much regard to actual evidence on both sides. Things just got harder and harder to follow as time went on.

Pros:

* Same hairstyle as seen on FRLG and Gen I artwork.
* Obvious FRLG influences on her attire (backpack is exactly the same from FRLG, and that little pattern on the collar is now blue)
* Red and Blue are 'slightly updated' Gen I-like designs, so Green was changed accordingly to fit the theme (Remember Sugimori said he just updated the Gen I girl for the female FRLG protagonist, rather than creating a new character from scratch).
* "Leaf" trademark pose from the FRLG Trainer Card is the same as Green's challenging pose from LGPE, hair flip and all.

Cons:

* Someone asked Ken Sugimori on Twitter about her default FRLG name, and he responded "Leaf... Maybe?"
** However, 'default name' in a broader sense, 'may' not necessarily mean the same thing as the "canon name" to be used throughout the game series. The [[Blue (game)|Generation I Rival]]'s canon name is "Blue" for example, despite that not being a default name for him in [[Pokémon Blue]] or the remakes.

It's extremely unlikely anyone from The Pokémon Company or Game Freak will ever issue a formal, definite statement on such a simplistic matter. So I think the best solution would be a voting session once we compile a few more Pros and Cons. -- [[User:Yagamitaichi|Yagamitaichi]] ([[User talk:Yagamitaichi|talk]]) 15:40, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
:The figure outright calls her Leaf, which I suppose is a "con" for those who think they're one and the same. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 17:59, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
::The '''announcement'''. Why do people forget that? The figure hasn't been released yet, and could easily change upon release. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 18:52, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
:An additional pro on the deisgn front could be the wrist bands. They're black in the FrLg design and white in the LGP!E! design, but that could be because the Gen 1 design had white gloves, which makes the wrists bands an interesting fusion of the two accessories from those two previous designs. [[User:Nikkie2571|Nikkie2571]] ([[User talk:Nikkie2571|talk]]) 19:27, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

{{indent}}May I remind everyone what abcboy said in his comment: "If/when the Kotobukiya figurine gets released by TPCi in English, this decision will be reevaluated." Any sort of poll or discussion is moot. Until the figure gets '''released''' and we know what its name is (whether it'll be leaf or green), ''then'' something will be done. All this back and forth is just a pointless waste of time and effort for something that isn't going to happen until the figure gets released.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:29, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
:I don't see anything wrong with having the discussion anyways... --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 03:39, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
::Discussion about what? As far as I'm aware, the discussion of what to name this page was already resolved and ended with abcboy's comment. Any other discussion should be left to the forums.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:50, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
:::I just don't really like the idea of restricting discussion. I personally find it interesting to participate in discussions and read what others have to say. After all, that is what the talk pages are for. I don't think it would be suited towards the forums because it is about this Bulbapedia page at its core. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 04:41, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
:::@ForceFire, discussion about whether Leaf and Green are the same person, since someone decided to add a "The contents of this article have been suggested to be split into Green (game) and Leaf (game)" banner at the top of Green's page after abcboy's comment. And to be honest, my major problem with the Leaf/Green thing is why a figurine is being used for her official name, when the games should be taking precedence over supplementary materials. Back when HGSS released, it was pretty much determined that Gold would be henceforth known as Ethan, regardless of the supplementary materials, such as the game guides or instruction booklets bundled with GSC, referring to him as Gold. Similarly with Brendan, he was referred to as "Orlando" in the ORAS demo, but the name Brendan was still kept when ORAS officially released. With Selene/Elio, since neither were given names outside of internal data, which is typically inconsistent for many PCs, it was decided to use supplementary materials for the basis of both of their names. Administration more or less set a precedent that the games come first before supplementary materials, and I don't understand why this precedent isn't being followed upon with Green. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 16:19, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

I think this is not difficult to understand XD. In remake line, she was named Leaf (Gen 2 girl named Lyra in this line), and in original line, she was named Blue/Green (Gen 2 girl named Crys in this line).

She can be the same character or a different character. In some respects, the judgment of Pokemon Adventures manga is justified. Although I know that some people
don’t think so.

This page does not need to be split in my opinion. Crys/Lyra, Gold/Ethan, Elio, and Selene things already confused enough. I only want to change infobox picture to LGPE instead of continuing to use Leaf's picture.

By the way, Kotobukiya has not changed her name and continues to use it now. Leaf does exist as an official name. [[User:E9310103838|E9310103838]] ([[User talk:E9310103838|talk]]) 00:28, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
::Kris and Lyra have been confirmed to be separate characters, unlike Ethan, Elio, and Selene. Also except for the figurine, Leaf was never officially used as a name for the character. In addition, as far as I'm aware and can find, the figurine was announced as Leaf, and has yet to actually be released. Something that is announced can easily change once it's released, and also, let's not forget that the announcement came out shortly before Pikachu & Eevee, and at that point we had no confirmation that even Red or Blue were going to appear. She may've initially intended to be named "Leaf" in Pikachu & Eevee, but changed late in development, or the artist who designed the artwork for the figurine, Hitoshi Ariga, was unaware that she was going to be called Green in Pikachu & Eevee (he didn't work on Pikachu & Eevee, so this is possible), calling her Leaf, since that was the fan consensus name for her at that point. Fact of the matter, we don't know ''who'' exactly coined her Leaf, whether it was someone at Game Freak or Kotobukiya. Even so, the staff on Bulbapedia have already made precedence that the games come before any sort of supplementary material, as is the case of Ethan upon release of HGSS, and if there is nothing in the games that indicates a name, excluding internal data, as this varies for some PCs, then supplementary material should be used, as was the case with Elio and Selene. I would expect staff to be consistent on matters like this, as it reflects poorly on them, as they're backtracking on a convention they had already established. If a staff member went, "Much like Ethan in HGSS, Pikachu & Eevee establish that Leaf's official name is Green" there would probably be some people who would disagree with this, much like Ethan, but most of the people here would not be vocal about this as they are now. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 03:32, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
:::For real, somebody's going to have to ask one of the Game Freak higher-ups like Junichi Masuda if they intended for Green from Let's Go Pikachu Eevee and the player character from FRLG to be the same person. At this point, that's the only way we're going to resolve this. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 04:22, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
{{indent}}To continue to beat a dead horse, I still, after this time, think we should remove all references to the character being called "Leaf".

We know a couple of things:
* We are currently treating Green from FRLG and Green from LGPE as the same character, as we should continue to do, since we have in the past with character differences between generations with much bigger design changes and functional differences. See Elio, Selene, Blue, etc...
* Green is the name used in LGPE. There is no official name used in FRLG.
** "Leaf" was the name that Kotobukiya used prior to LGPE's release.
*** Kotobukiya figures are not the main games.
* TPCI has [[Ethan (game)|changed character names before]]. The solution was to go with the most recent name. This name change applied retroactively to games before the name change, like this article is currently NOT doing.
* In the past, Bulbapedia has prioritized information in the main games over secondary sources. Currently, this precedent is not being applied here.
* <s>Not that it matters, but this is one of the things that other Pokemon forums make fun of Bulbapedia for-- I've seen this exact debate being used as evidence of Bulbapedia's incompetency on more than one occasion.</s>

The obvious solution is to call Green by her canonical name. Besides, as I mentioned above, the article is incredibly confusing as it stands. The whole Green/Leaf debacle turned what was previously a serviceable article into kind of a jumbled mess, and one of our poorer articles, just because of a difference in name and a minor change in design. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 01:23, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

[https://www.bandai.co.jp/candy/products/2019/1000136258.html A new Leaf figure was made by Bandai], and it specifically states she is Leaf, the girl proatgonist of ''Fire Red and Leaf Green'', without mentioning Blue from ''Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee''. This is the same case as the Kotobukiya figure, [https://www.kotobukiya.co.jp/product/product-0000003255/ in the description of the final product].--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 12:58, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
:I still don't understand how any figures are relevant at all. Games always, always, always take priority and I don't see why we should ignore a long-standing precedent for a single character. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 14:28, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
::''Fire Red and Leaf Green'' actually had ''Leaf'' as internal name for her and did not give a direct name to the girl protagonist, so the figures using that name aren't against what the games state, since they specifically mention that they are representing the girl protagonist of ''Fire Red and Leaf Green''.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:16, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
:::LGPE overrides that (or at least it should, considering previous actions and precedents here on Bulbapedia). LGPE came out in 2018. FRLG came out in 2004. Remember, Gamefreak [[Ethan (game)|has changed names in the past]], and we've changed them to fit, even when referring to before the name change. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 18:35, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
::::My position has been consistent: they're two different people. The fact they have two different names is consistent with that position. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 23:06, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::Good to see that someone isn’t relying on non-canon material, i.e. figures, to support their claim. I have to ask, though: Are Ethan and Gold two separate people? After all, they had different names up until we realized that we should probably keep names consistent.

:::::Besides, the way the article is formatted, it treats Green from FRLG and Green from LGPE as the same character, as we have done with two characters who we can reasonably assume are the same based on function and appearance. Using two different names but keeping them on the same page seems just like a really shitty compromise. Why not improve the article and fix that? --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 01:45, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::I want to ask about this Gold/Ethan thing. Can someone explain to me where both names are used officially? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:47, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
::The name Ethan was first officially used during the release of HeartGold & SoulSilver. Before then, he had no official name as the Pokémon Gold instruction book called him ''Gold'' and the Pokémon Silver instruction manual referred to him as ''Silver'', but he was referred to as Gold by fans as people had taken to calling his rival Silver. In all the mangas and most other side projects, the two were referred to as Gold and Silver respectively. Outside of the manga, until Generation IV, Ethan / Gold had no official name. Silver still has no official name himself but that is a different topic. Hope this was helpful. :) ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 18:13, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
:::Yeah, thanks. Barring anything more, that means Ethan/Gold isn't comparable to Leaf/Green. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:55, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
::::For what is worth, I have the Italian Official Nintendo Player's Guide of ''Gold and Silver'', the protagonist is referred to as ''the hero'' (''L'eroe'') and the rival is referred to as ''the rival'' (''Il rivale''), so it looks like the name of the protagonist was indeed added in ''HeartGold and SoulSilver''.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 19:07, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::Alright, my bad. I guess the two pages are not comparable. My point still stands that we should remove any reference to “Leaf”— it muddles the page and I do really think we should strive for name consistency even in the lack of a precedent. I can’t think of any other page that has had this issue but my strong opinion is that for this page and for future pages we should replace older names with newer ones, even when referring to before the name change. I think I’ve made my stance and my reasoning pretty clear. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 12:16, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::Yes it is, the name "Leaf" has never been used in an official capacity by Game Freak, much like Gold. The only time "Leaf" has been used the franchise is non-canonical material, and figurines made by a different company. Even with the figurines, we don't know if Game Freak gave them the names for the characters or if they simply went with what the fans have been referring to her as over the years. Also, again, I have to ask, why the hell are '''''figurines''''' taking precedence over '''''the games''''' in the first place? Pokémon is a video game franchise, not a figurine collecting one. I get why Elio and Selene were named such after their merchandise, since it's the only names being used officially, and the placeholder names in the game data are unused since they can vary from game to game (such as Red), but why are people waiting for a figurine to be released, when the games have given her the name "Green"? [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 12:30, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::Regarding ''"why the hell are '''''figurines''''' taking precedence over '''''the games'''''"''... They are not. FRLG did not give its female PC any name. So, this figure that is specifically referring to FRLG becomes that PC's most canon name.
:::::::Regarding ''"for future pages we should replace older names with newer ones, even when referring to before the name change"''... That's not our policy. We still refer to the [[Dowsing Machine]] as the Itemfinder for the early games. We have, for both Dowsing Machine and Green, moved both pages to use the newer names, but those older names are still to be used for the games they belong to. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:06, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::::No offense, but I find that policy silly and confusing. This article is already convoluted as it is with the whole Green/Leaf debacle, this potentially sets a very dangerous precedent for future articles. Besides, “Itemfinder” was an actual name used in a game. There are no scenarios in which a player will encounter the name “Leaf” in game without setting it for themselves. And that’s not even touching upon the dubious canonicity of the name “Leaf” in general. Green’s “most canon name” IS Green, FRLG or LGPE, because that’s the only name that’s ever been used in a game to describe her. That’s like saying that Red’s name in RBY isn’t Red because he wasn’t called that until GSC.

::::::::The figurines are just as relevant to FRLG as any manuals calling Ethan “Gold” are to GSC. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 15:56, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh, and just one little note: the Dowsing Machine page doesn't say "Dowsing Machine/Itemfinder" in the infobox. Not that the two are comparable. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 21:47, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::::::As above, Ethan/Gold is not comparable to Green/Leaf here. Nor is Red. Red was established by clear story continuity in future games (and remained very consistent); Green does not have any line of story continuity back to FRLG. They are not the same. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:24, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::::As above, the manuals in Ethan/Gold are just as relevant to GSC than the figures for Green/Leaf are to FRLG. Actually, I take that back; they're MORE relevant-- the manuals are included with the games themselves, whereas the figures (in other words, not connected to the games) are made by another company. I guess you're right in that the two pages are not comparable, because this situation is somehow more nonsensical. I don't understand how figures being made by another company are pertinent at all to this discussion.

:::::::::::"Red was established by clear story continuity in future games (and remained very consistent); Green does not have any line of story continuity back to FRLG." This point makes the least sense. If, by some weird decision at Gamefreak, they decided to call Red "Ash" or "Frank" or something in SM, would we still use "Red" for pre-SM because there's "no continuity between the games"?

:::::::::::And again, unlike Red, the name "Leaf" has NEVER been used in the games, only in noncanon materials. How it is still relevant at all is beyond me. There is, however, a name that HAS been used in the games, and people keep coming up with ridiculous, half-assed loopholes to write it off. I'm sorry for being so passionate but it's incredibly frustrating to me that common sense is being thrown out the window for this. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 00:35, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::::::::You agreed above that "the two pages are not comparable". I thought perhaps you had just forgotten but now you're doubling down on trying to wave Ethan/Gold around. I'm super confused by your flip-flopping.
::::::::::::Your "Frank" hypothetical, for all you may mean it to be absurd, has already been answered. Just as we use ItemFinder for the games ''that'' was used in, if GameFreak established a discontinuity and appeared to change "Red"'s name, we'd keep using Red for the games ''that'' was used in. Just as we still use {{m|Faint Attack}} and [[List of modified moves#Name changes|others]]. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:09, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
{{indent}}When I say “I guess you’re right in that the two pages are not comparable”, I was mostly using that for comedic effect, as indicated by the following words. I do think they are similar scenarios but the fact that people are still insisting on using “Green” I think is far more ridiculous, hence the comedic “not comparable.” Sorry for the confusion. Maybe I’m just not good at sarcasm. I’ll try to mark it clearly in the future.

I’ve already explained my counterpoint to that last part. Player character names are, by design, not set in stone. There will never be a player who encounters the name “Leaf” in normal gameplay without explicitly setting it for themselves. In contrast, a player would see the words Itemfinder and Faint Attack in game. I’ve explained this before and I shouldn’t need to again. The same logic can not be applied. I admit that I should not have picked Red for my example, as Red has appeared in a game before. Let’s try a different example— if Nate appeared in a future game with a different name, would we change prior names to fit? I’d hope so, personally.

Again... why is a figure relevant at all in the face of an official name? Perhaps if it were a manual it would be different. /s

By the way, I think I’m allowed to change my opinion on something, or “flip-flop” if you will, if someone brings up a point I didn’t think of, as Sinjoh has. But by now I’m pretty set that yeah, the scenarios on Ethan and Green are pretty damn comparable. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 02:28, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
:I'm going to pause for a moment after only understanding your first line, because I can only suppose that your fervor has made you completely forget something from under a day ago. I'll leave this (the thing I was referring to and the reason for me being "super confused") here and I'd like to know what your response is when we're hopefully both clear. [[Special:Diff/2996403]]
:[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:53, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
::I have now slept and my position is still exactly the same. Please reread my last line.

::I thought they were similar initially, then Frozen Fennec pointed out something that I didn’t realize, so I changed my mind, then Sinjoh pointed out something I didn’t realize, so I changed my mind. I’m allowed to do that if somebody brings up a point that didn’t occur to me. Besides, it barely affected the content of my argument— my position was still the same. I fail to see why it was worth bringing up in the first place, let alone twice. I think my response was pretty clear about it the first time.

::Now can we stop using ad hominems against my wishywashiness or anything else to tiptoe around the actual issue? --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 13:16, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
:::I'm not attacking you for changing your mind. I'm only saying exactly what I said...you incredibly confused me because you didn't acknowledge changing your position or give any reasons. You just looked inconsistent. (That said, I can't tell what you took from Frozen Fennec since they haven't commented since the response I linked from you.)
:::Perhaps I can approach this Ethan and Green thing a little differently. My position is, the FRLG female PC has an official name and so does the LGPE female PC...while the GSC male PC has no official name and the HGSS male PC does. I.e., FRLG/LGPE and GSC/HGSS are not the same. When you say that FRLG/LGPE (Leaf/Green) and GSC/HGSS (Gold/Ethan) are the same, I hear that you think the GSC male PC's official name was Gold...is that correct? (At the risk of saying more than necessary, please answer that last question first and foremost. My position is very secondary, I'm trying to understand yours at the moment.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:42, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
::::Wow, the section has gotten much longer since I last responded. I do want to try adding in some more thoughts to the matter. Sinjoh noted that "Leaf" had never been used or acknowledged as a name but Sugimori teased on Twitter back in 2011 that it is ''maybe'' her official name despite the only other notable things giving her a name were the manga and even then, those were inconsistent as you had two characters based on her named Green and later, Blue. Green, Red, Fire, and Leaf were also all possible default names for her as well in Generation III. I imagine Sugimori stating it was ''maybe'' her name at the time did not help either. I think the ONLY thing that could really be seen as similar at the time is that Leaf / Green and Gold / Ethan both had manga counterparts and was most likely where a lot of people started to pick up calling those two ''Leaf'' and ''Gold'' respectively. Leaf can also be stated to be used ''in-game'' to some capacity if you count that Leaf is the default name given to her in the internal data of the game as has been stated numerous times earlier in the game. I imagine I am probably adding some confusion to this article's talk page and I do apoligize for that.

::::As for a page split which I cannot seem to find any discussion of, I would be ok leaving it as one page for now. If anything, roughly 90% of this page over the past 10 or so years has been nothing but a discussion over whether or not she should be called Leaf or Green. I would modify the header at the top of the page to note that Green / Leaf is called ''Leaf'' by default in the game's internal data to lessen confusion and possibly prevent creating a far longer discussion over her actual name in the long run. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 14:45, 9 July 2019 (UTC
:::::Tiddlywinks, thanks for clarifying. I don’t think that GSC Ethan’s official name is Gold and I definitely don’t think that page should be changed. I’m just extremely confused on how the Pokémon Gold manual isn’t relevant (which I agree with) and a figure is. If we’re applying a line of logic to Ethan we should apply the same logic to Green. I keep bringing up Gold because i think it’s a very good comparison to highlight the disparity of policies used, not to show my own opinions.

:::::To answer your position as concisely as I can: I think that GSC Ethan being called Gold is as official as FRLG Green being called Leaf. Being not much. That’s my stance. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 16:43, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::Then there's the other thing. We're not ignoring the manuals. But going off the details FrozenFennec gave, they gave him different names. If he was Gold (or Joe or whatever) in both, then yeah, we could take that as his name. But since that doesn't seem to be the case...well, we can't prefer one manual and just brush the other aside either. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:23, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::I feel like this is getting into more of a difference of opinions on policies, which I don't really want to get into. I believe that if he was given a different but consistent name in the manuals, then we should still call him Ethan in GSC contexts. One character, one name. But if you really wanted to go that route, then the solution consistent to the Green page would be to use Gold{{sup/2|G}}/Silver{{sup/2|S}} in GSC contexts. (Which, for clarity, is absolutely not what I'm suggesting we do.)

:::::::I still feel like figures are not a reliable source to use for names in the face of an existing name in the games, regardless of which games each name replies to. Merch made by other companies, IMO, is scraping the bottom of the barrel for information, and should really only done if there's a lack of official name, like for Elio and Selene.

:::::::Speaking of Elio and Selene, don't those names only apply to Sun and Moon too, as per the statement for the Kotobukiya figure, and not USUM? Why do we refer to them as Elio and Selene for USUM contexts, but we don't refer to Green as...well, Green for FRLG contexts?

:::::::It seems to me that there are just so many loopholes required to justify not just calling the female player from FRLG by the canon name that they've given her. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 22:55, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::::Fact: we're not going to use a name from later for anything that has an official name in a previous generation. This is very simple. These things MUST be immediately recognizable to anyone playing those games. If a game calls a character Alice but in a remake 5 years later she was called Eve, if someone's playing the first game and they're trying to figure something out here, referring to Eve will just make them wonder, "Who the hell is Eve? This seems like where I am but I don't know her so when is this, then? And why isn't there anything about Alice?" That's not OK.
::::::::(If you want to explain something and then say you don't want that...then I think I'm just going to forego any comment on it. Separately: if you have an issue with Elio and Selene specifically, I suggest taking that to a different talk page.)
::::::::The lack of an official name in the '''specific''' context of FRLG makes the figure merch just as acceptable as for Elio and Selene. While you may think that this cannot hold a candle to a name in a remake later...the short version is that we simply do not agree with you. I have tried explaining the logic; you're denigrating the values. There's not really a lot of persuasion to exercise there. (If you want to seriously accept our values and explain how you think that we should do X for some page if we really want Green's page like this (and if we don't want that then we need to fix Green), we can explore that. But I think you've said it: there is a part of this about opinions that will simply bear no fruit.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:34, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::I've been reluctant to take part in this discussion, but I think right now may be a good moment to add something. If I understood corectly, the lack of an in-game name and therefore usage of a merch name for Green/Leaf in FRLG is comparable to the situation of Elio and Selene in SM and USUM. Also, it appears to me that the names Elio and Selene were given in the context of Sun and Moon specifically and later extended to USUM. So, hypothetically, let's say that both Elio and Selene appeared in USUM as NPCs and were given different names in those games (say, Rick and Cindy). In this situation, how would we deal with the names of those characters? Would Rick and Cindy be used widely, since they had no in-game names before that (and considering that they are the same characters as in Sun and Moon), or would we still call them Elio and Selene when referring to Sun and Moon?
:::::::::I'd like you people to try to picture this situation I described unbiased, so maybe we can extend whatever answer it receives to Green/Leaf as well. And if my logic has any flaws, please point them out, but still try to picure that scenario. [[User:Suic12-|Suic]] ([[User talk:Suic12-|talk]]) 02:10, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::::::To Suic: I would hope that Bulbapedia would only use Rick and Cindy, even when referring to Sun and Moon contexts. They'd never appeared as NPCs before, only as characters named by the player, and the names were essentially made "official" by the Kotobukiya figures. Which I believe is only valid here because there is an absense of anything better.

::::::::::To Tiddlywinks:

::::::::::Calling Kotobukiya calling her "Leaf" "official" is incredibly shaky. And I doubt the average user or FRLG player is going to see the name "Green" and think "well, who the hell is that?" anymore than they would with the name "Leaf". By trying to be "immediately recognizable" we are making this article more confusing, ironically.

::::::::::I don't have an issue with Elio or Selene's pages. I have an issue with the fact that those pages are following one line of logic and this one isn't. I guess my examples are going over your head. If they're legitimately confusing to you, then I'll also "forego any comment on it".

::::::::::If this is the policy for the future, that figures trump games as long as it's not the EXACT SAME game, then I will say that I strongly disagree, and that it goes against established Bulbapedia values, and is only going to lead to further confusion, but ultimately, since an average Bulbapedia user like myself has practically zero say over anything that happens, I'm not gonna continue to push to improve this article after now. In my experience, Bulbapedia, specifically the moderator team, has always been weird about things that should be common sense but this is definitely the worst of it-- we've made so many loopholes that we've tangled and knotted our reasoning. I'll say it as concisely as I can-- this policy and, as a result, this page, is ridiculous and shitty.

::::::::::I do realize that my opinions "don't bear fruit", like you said, and I think that that's the most saddening part about this whole scenario. The fact that there's a policy that I feel is unfair and dangerous, and I have nothing that I, as a non-moderator, can do about it.

::::::::::I have nothing more to say on the matter. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 02:24, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::::You're mixing issues when you propose that people wouldn't be confused by "Green" in the context of FRLG. You may think it's confusing but it's following strict policy (that I've explained more than once above) which we will not change. This may be an extreme case of that policy, but that itself is not enough reason to modify the policy or invalidate the name.
:::::::::::Regarding Elio/Selene, let me put it this way (again). If you want to explore how Leaf/Green means we should do something else with Elio/Selene, we can talk. Right now, all I hear is, "This is a problem for Elio/Selene--and you should be able to understand that--so you should invalidate Leaf/Green." Again: give details about what Leaf/Green should mean for other things. (As far as I'm concerned, this wouldn't need to be accompanied by "...So that means Leaf/Green sucks!" But I won't try to force that right now.)
:::::::::::Regarding the "Rick/Cindy" hypothetical... I think *I* would suggest handling it like Leaf/Green. (But...if you're trying to create a new situation, you should know that not everything in the real world has a ready answer. The final answer comes when it's needed.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:16, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
{{indent}}What I was trying to do was to make sure we would have a consistent way to handle a situation of this kind. Of course I know there is not a ready answer, but still sometimes it's important to stop and think about how we are handling things.

Without placing my opinion, right now I guess what we have is something like "a character's name is only valid for the game(s) in which the name appears, and a different source should be used for the name in the game(s) in which said character is not named".

Now, let me point out I'm not saying that what I just wrote should be final. Instead, I think we should elaborate that statement (thinking of all implications, but without creating unnecessary exceptions) so we can use it as a standard for all situations.

So, Tiddlywinks, can we try to elaborate a statement like that as a guideline? It would simplify a lot the situation and avoid most debates about whether or not the rules or policies are being followed for one or another character. Of course I also understand that something like this would probably also need to be aproved by the rest of the staff. [[User:Suic12-|Suic]] ([[User talk:Suic12-|talk]]) 13:49, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
:I feel like a policy like that is fine but I still strongly think that using figures as a source is dubious if there’s other things to go off of. We have no idea the level of communication that Kotobukiya has with Gamefreak. If “Leaf” ever appears in a game to describe her then sure. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 16:25, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
::I hate to continue to add on but this has been on my mind for the past couple of days... If Kotobukiya or Bandai or whoever were to release figures that said "Fire, the male player character from FRLG" or "Terry, the rival from FRLG," would we change those names on those pages for those games? --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 22:03, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
:::Your specific mention of "Fire" is interesting because, in addition to being the obvious game-name counterpart to "Leaf", it was a common Japanese fan name for remake Red. If a figure were to actually use "Fire" for remake Red, it would ''completely destroy'' my argument. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 08:38, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
::::Needless to say, the Bandai figures [https://www.bandai.co.jp/candy/products/2019/45496604549660000.html use ''Red'' as name of Red] and [https://www.bandai.co.jp/candy/products/2019/1000136260.html ''Green'' as name of Green] (Blue in the West). Incidentally, both the Green and Prof. Oak's figures reconfirm that these Bandai figures are themed after ''Pokémon Fire Red and Leaf Green'', again limiting the scope of what they are portraying. After all, this kind of licensed material needs approval from the owners of the Pokémon IP (typically, [[The Pokémon Company]]), it can be expected that they perform some checks on relevant details of IP such as name, basic bio and appearance. It's an official figure, not a fan-made one. In any case, the name ''Leaf'' being used in internal data to refer to the female protagonist of ''Fire Red and Leaf Green'' means that Game Freak named her ''Leaf'' internally, it has never been just a fan name or an arbitrary name to begin with.

::::Furthermore, we still don't know the full details of the connection between Green and Leaf. Considering how ''Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee'' are explicitly a remake of ''Yellow'', they are not forced to connect with ''Fire Red and Leaf Green'', not to say that they feature an alternate timeline, where especially Red has a different role. The design of Green is not just influenced by that of Leaf, she also resembles the female character on the cover of the Nintendo Official Guidebook of ''Red, Green and Blue''. Regarding the latter character, Sugimori said that [https://twitter.com/super_32x/status/269847118754217986 he was a little conscious of her when designing the female protagonist of ''Fire Red and Leaf Green''], which again points out how the relationship between Green from ''Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee'' and Leaf from ''Fire Red and Leaf Green'' might be more complex than we think.

::::In any case, the descriptions of both the figures of Leaf explicitly mention how the character portrayed is the female protagonist of ''Fire Red and Leaf Green'', Blue/Green from ''Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee'' is never called into question, therefore these figures strictly aren't against the games they are explicitly referring to.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 22:39, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::(I was hoping nobody would actually use this point, but alas.) Internal data is practically completely irrelevant. They use all sorts of random names for internal data, such as the aforementioned Terry, as well as Kai and Lana for Elio and Selene respectively, or Ninten for Red in RBY... I could go on.

:::::I’m aware that Red and Blue both have figures already. But that didn’t answer my question. If for whatever reason they called them Fire and Terry, using the same phrasing that they do for Green from FRLG, would we use those names for FRLG only? No, obviously. It defies common sense to let figures control Pokémon canon so strongly. But that’s what we’re doing here.

:::::If anyone legitimately believes that if Kotobukiya called Red “Fire” for FRLG, then we should change it there, then I really don’t know what to say. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 03:18, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::Red has a consistent name that since Gen II, Blue has a consistent name since Gen II. If a figure gave them different names, then we're going to ignore it because that is not the names they consistently had before. Leaf never had a consistent name until to Kotobukiya figure. Kotobuyika has consistently been calling the FRLG design of the character Leaf, hence why "we're holding the figure so highly".
::::::The name Green has only been used for the LGPE design of the character, not the FRLG one. And whether they are the same character is another thing. There is nothing saying that they are the same. Their clothes sharing similar colors is not proof, that could be chalked up as a reference. I don't follow the manga, so I'm not too sure about that, but the character existed before the FRLG design did.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:25, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::Wow, this is the biggest loophole we’ve seen so far.... so you’re saying that we should apply different logic to Red than to Green just because Green hadn’t shown up until later? So much for the strict policies that Tiddlywinks was advocating for and using to defend their argument.

:::::::I am absolutely dumbfounded that we’re still deliberating over whether they’re the same character or not. It’s common sense. Extremely similar outfit, similar function in game (it only makes sense that the female player character from FRLG would appear alongside the male player character from FRLG as NPCS). Honestly, I’m amazed (and pleasantly surprised) that nobody has legitimately suggested that Elio from SM and USUM are different characters, or really any pair of the same character with much more drastic design differences than the flipping of two colors and the omission of a hat. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 12:18, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::::Red and Green don't have different logic. If a character has no name in a game, and has not had a name in a previous game, we may accept a name that pops up.
::::::::There's just no breating room to change Red's name because it has a very long history that doesn't have an "opening" like Green did (not to mention being so consistent). Green only received a name for LGPE, so FRLG was still iffy...and a figure popped up to fill that in.
::::::::We're not changing names willy-nilly like you fear. If you want to worry about anyone, Ethan is probably the only other PC who has a similar hole as Green.
::::::::And I can't speak for ForceFire, but the decision as staff has been that Leaf/Green are the same character, which is why they're on the same page. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:50, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::Why did the staff make this decision? Do {{tt|they|Using 'they' instead of 'you' to avoid ambiguity between singular/plural 'you'}} have evidence that Leaf/Green are confirmed the same that us non-staff have overlooked? [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 09:28, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
{{indent}}While I agree that they are the same character, since the article was renamed Green I think the article should consistently call her Green. The reference to her old name Leaf should go to the Trivia section. {{ga|Ethan}}'s page consistently called him Ethan and didn't switch to Gold for Generation 2 contexts. So a figure called her Leaf. After a TFG figure called {{ga|Brendan}} "Landon," should we have figures as reliable sources to canon names? Especially a Japan-exclusive figure that doesn't release until September? As I recall, [[Gold (game)]] was only moved to [[Ethan (game)]] on the North American release date of HeartGold and SoulSilver. His page was never Hibiki (game) when the Japanese version was out. And if it turns out we have to split Leaf from Green, it's only a matter of using a Find/Replace function. But anyway, the thing that should settle this debate once and for all is Green's appearance in [[Pokémon Masters]] using her FireRed/LeafGreen design. We don't have confirmation yet, so we could wait. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 04:03, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
:''Masters'' is already likely to name [[Silver (game)|two]] [[Kris (game)|characters]] and has reconfirmed [[Barry (game)|a third]], so it wouldn't be unthinkable for it to resolve this debate as well. (Red and Blue have their designs taken from HGSS, so the same would apply to Leaf/Green as well.) [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 07:28, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
::So what did Masters call her? [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 02:00, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
:::Five months? Talk about cutting it close on this bump. The article calls her Leaf in the context of Pokémon Masters, so maybe Pokémon Masters calls her Leaf? Or is it just like how we've been calling her Leaf for years and Masters didn't name her? I'd like to know how Vmario97 got that sprite. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 03:04, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
::::I believe "Leaf" has only appeared in a cutscene in Masters so far, and was not named in it. --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] ([[User talk:Neumannz|talk]]) 13:54, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::I second that. I watched a few videos of Pokémon Masters chapter 21 (the one where she appears), in both English and Japanese. As of yet, I've only found that cutscene where "Leaf" appears and she is not named. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 14:19, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
::::::Welp. Is there any possibility we could get a name by looking at Masters' internal game files? [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 15:01, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::::And if we don't get a name, could we make the article more consistent about calling her Green? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 05:23, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
::::::::For what it’s worth, datamining reconfirmed her being named Leaf, her trainer move being named ''Let’s Go!'' (but we need the Japanese name to see if the reference is made up in the Western translation or not), her Pokémon being an unevolvable Eevee (with an Extreme Evoboost-based sync move), making her a counterpart of Elaine rather than Green (who doesn’t have an Eevee in her team). Without the dialogue from her, we don’t have any useful evidence beside this systematic use of ''Leaf'' every time the design from ''Fire Red'' and ''Leaf Green'' is used.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 11:51, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::So should we move this back to Leaf (game)? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 06:09, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

== Article Layout ==
I move to begin the article with a section on the unused Generation I character before segueing into information about Green and Leaf. Any objections? [[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 08:07, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
:I'd be fine with that. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 13:05, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
::This page is kind of a mess and I want to try and make it more organized, clean it up a little. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 10:18, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
:::It's already in the trivia section. And the prototype character is '''not''' Green, Green is inspired by that prototype, but that does not mean the prototype is Green herself.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:27, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
::::I think we should move it up from the trivia section to the front of the page. It's pretty pertinent. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 10:37, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
::::While ForceFire noted they are not the same, I feel it is fine being left in the trivia. It is A)Not the same character, B)a character which inspired Green's design. Most other pages with notable beta content related to them are just stuck into trivia as they are not something you would see during normal gameplay at all. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 15:43, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
:::::May I ask how they are not all the same? (that is, how they are not all versions of the same character in different alternative universes (as each game sort of exists in its own alternative universe)) [[User:CherubAgent1440|CherubAgent1440]] ([[User talk:CherubAgent1440|talk]]) 13:46, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Leaf (game)

2019-12-27T05:23:48Z

SeanWheeler: /* To be or not to be that's the question. (Or why is that even a question in the first place?) */

==Leaf==
So who made up that name? --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 17:22, 2 February 2006 (CST)

:I want to know that too. Following the trend that the 1st and 2nd gen games set, her name should be Green, or Blue in the Japanese version. I'm guessing someone just chose one of the optional names from FRLG and gave it to her when they made the article. There's no real basis for her name being "Leaf", so shouldn't we go by precedence, as was done with Gold, Silver and Kris, and just call her Green?. -Shaddow Boy

::For an English Language Version, Green is accurate, however [[Green (game)]] already directs to Blue, does it not?--[[User:PikamasterADV|PikamasterADV]] 00:50, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

:Internal game data. There is a trainer, presumably used for debugging, with the sprite of the male player, and another trainer with the sprite of the female player. The male one is named Red, but the female is named Leaf for some strange reason. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 09:38, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
::English version or Japanese? --WikidSmaht 08:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Both. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:53, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
::::This isn't really a good habit to get into. If we start taking unused data as official canon, then Professor Oak started with Squirtle, the Safari Zone had no Pokemon in it 3 years after Red and Blue, and that the Lake of Rage is still a town. It just doesn't make sense. Fire Red and Leaf Green have officially fixed Green's (male rival's), name to that of the original, leaving lone Blue, the third version gal, without a truly official name. While logic would suggest we should call her Blue due to the Manga as well as Blue being the color generation's third game, we are stuck basing her name on what can only be called speculation. Unused Data =/= Fact. [[User:Fishman|Fishman]] 15:43, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::Er, no. When it comes to the games' canon, internal game data > manga name. Otherwise we should be calling Brendan "Ruby" and May "Sapphire".
:::::And no offense, but your analogies are the ones that don't make sense to me. The prototypical Safari Zone in GSC doens't have wild Pokémon because the wild encounters data was never written, not because it was originally meant to not have Pokémon. And the finished versions of the games retconned Profesor Oak into not being a fight-able trainer, and the Lake of Rage into being just a lake are, not a town. But neither the finished games not Nintendo officially revealed a name for the FR/LG female protagonist, so if her name during the development stages was Leaf (which in-game data seems to prove it was), then it should still be, since there isn't evidence to make us believe that it was retconned into another name. [[User:Spideym|Spideym]] 00:03, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Well we can't call her Blue, because [[Blue (game)]] is the rival. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 01:13, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
:If only GSDS would become reality, we'd know for sure, since then we'd have to find out what happened to her as well as Red. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:33, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
::We don't need another sequel. Besides her name, the answers are right here in front of us. The [[Blue (game)]] has officially been renamed as Green. All we have to do with the old article is point out that his English name used to be Blue, and was later changed back into Green. [[User:Fishman|Fishman]] 01:45, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
:::No, it has not been officially renamed. The rival's first default name for the Red version does not qualify as the character's official name. For all we know, his name could still be "Blue," just because it's not a default name doesn't mean it's been officially changed. Taking evidence from all the games supports that the rival is Blue and the girl is unnamed (leaving us with Green), but the idea that Blue has become Green is just fan speculation. I also agree that we can't go taking in-game data as official, and believe the name of the girl should be Green until Nintendo proves otherwise.--[[User:Mezase Master|Mezase Master]]
::::No to you, Mezase Master. First of all, you'll give the reason to most of us when we claim that Blue, this is, Japanese Green, is now Green outside of Japan as well since FRLG. Why do I say this? Because of HGSS and in-game data. And if internal game data says that her name is Leaf in both Japanese and English versions, then we have to assume it is as such. It's like you're claiming that Nintendo, specially the American and European divisions, don't screw up on the manuals and stuff. Even if such material is official, it doesn't mean it's correct and in-game data is the superior form of canon in the Pokémon franchise, so I say you're wrong. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 11:56, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::BTW, I e-mailed Nintendo of America back in late 2008 and asked them what was the official name of the female player character in FRLG. They told me that there isn't any and that players can name characters as they pretend (we all know that happens in every game except the rival in RSE), so we only have in-game data left. And if in-game data says that the name is Leaf, it's because it is. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 12:23, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Her name can't be "Green" because is the rival's name in the games already [[User:Haruka uzumaki|Haruka uzumaki]] 16:06, 24 September 2007
: Her name isn't "Green". It's "Blue". [[User:Fishman|Fishman]] 15:55, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

==Manga==
Okay, that manga information should definitely be in a separate article. But what series is it referring to? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 05:21, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

== RBG picture ==

So, supposedly she's based off of a picture from an old guidebook. Does anybody have an copy of this picture? I'm curious to see it. {{unsigned|Morgil27}}

== Blue artwork? ==

I found an image that appears to be the artwork described in the article. Is this it? [http://www.sailorteam.com/fakecard/starters/rgb.jpg]

It doesn't show her face, unfortunately. [[User:GigaMetroid99|GigaMetroid99]] 02:43, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:We're not sure it's her but she does resemble Blue (Green in the U.S)--[[Santa Claus|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチュウ!''']] 02:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::I was just wondering if that was the picture that the article described with:

''Leaf was supposed to be in the original Red and Green versions, due to the fact that on Nintendo's Official guidebook, it depicted a female trainer with long brown hair, a black dress, white gloves and short black boots, alongside the male protagonist and the rival. It is believed she was supposed to be in the game, but was left out for some reason.''

If that's the right image, it should be added to the article to show viewers how she would have looked.[[User:GigaMetroid99|GigaMetroid99]] 01:41, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:: I'm confused I thought the picture already was in the article.... I made a copy of it from somewhere...--[[User:Marhawkman|Marhawkman]] 02:10, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
::: Oh yeah, I remember reading in one of the articles something about how there are bits of code in red and green that treat the gender of the player character as a variable. wouldn't this be additional confirmation?--[[User:Marhawkman|Marhawkman]] 15:09, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

== Her back sprite ==

It may be me but her back sprite,and Red's,makes it look like she has brown eyes,despite what the trainer card shows. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 02:48, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

== Rival = Blue? or Green? HGSS ==

Well, being that the rival's name also complicates things, as TTEchidna said, if the Viridian City gym leader in Pokemon HeartGold & SoulSilver is Leader (or Gym Leader) Blue, then it's back to the drawing board, but if he's Leader (or Gym Leader) Green, the name of the female player character of FireRed & LeafGreen may very well be Blue then. {{unsigned|Team Snagem Jarrod}}
:Her name will be Leaf regardless. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:25, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Wouldn't the situation change if she appears in HG/SS under a different name? [[User:Tsum|Tsum]] 04:44, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
:It might but I think if the English translation calls the Viridian Leader "Green" to go with FireRed and Leaf''Green'', and has Red still in Mt. Silver, then this girl being Blue would confuse people due to Green being Blue in Gen II because before it was Red and ''Blue''. Leaf fits her best of all, unless they were to go a completely odd route and go with actual given names, in which case I'd bet that Red would be Satoshi in Japan and Ash here, Green is Shigeru/Gary, and Leafy-poo is Ashley. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:54, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

== The only one not to appear in the anime? ==

Wouldn't Soul count? Also,what about Mark,Mint,Wes,Michael,Lucy,Kate, and Lunick? Or do it just refer to the main games. Even so,what about Soul? Or is it still up for grabs that she is just a redesign of Kris,and not a seperate character? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 03:39, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
:Soul's game hasn't even been released. Of course she hasn't appeared in the anime yet. If she appears, she will probably show up during the 13th or 14th seasons, late 12th at the earliest, assuming they return to Johto after the Sinnoh League and the Sinnoh GF. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 04:36, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

== Apperence in HGSS? ==

If she's not, so should that be mentioned if she is not? Just saying b/c of the games comming out today.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:43, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:It doesn't appear so. Just Red. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:52, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
::Alright was that added to article?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:54, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Has anyone finished the game with {{ga|Kotone}} to confirm? All the places I've seen were finishing with {{ga|Gold|Hibiki}}. Maybe Leaf takes place of {{ga|Red}} when you play with Kotone. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 03:39, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Well many have confirmed her not to be in HGSS, should I undo the trivia just in case? She might be in beta?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 03:41, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::I think it is too early to say it, it's better to undo it until someone who has finished with {{ga|Kotone}} to confirm. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 03:43, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::Alright, I'll do unless you already did.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 03:46, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS (again) ==

Is it ''really'' confirmed that she is not in HGSS? Has ''anyone'' finished the game with <s>Soul</s> {{ga|Kotone}} to see if she is not in the place of Red? If not, the right thing to do is to remove this trivia. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 03:47, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:Okay, anyone answered, and people keep insisting on putting that freaking piece of trivia. It would be excellent if someone say ''where'' it is confirmed. I'm really sorry for bothering, but I just want to know if.someone.has.finished.with.kotone.and.proved.it. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 21:06, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::Could you please stop asking already? I'm sure they are working on it. Be patient. I would do it myself but my rom always messes up by the time I reach Violet City. I have to wait a few weeks until I get the real game. We are not saying that she's in the game and we are not saying that she isn't. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:15, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:::People have ripped all of the trainer sprites (including the event-only Giovanni... at least, I believe he's event-only) from the game. Leaf is not included in them. I don't have the game or ROM to go through the game with Kotone just to double-check, though... [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♪]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:17, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I know it, it will take time, but ''I'' am also working on it. But people are insisting to put that trivia ''"[...] she does not appear in the games."'', and we do not have clear confirmation yet. I'll hide it, okay? Sorry again for bothering. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 21:20, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Leave it hidden. Although, Tina's comment gives great weight to Red staying there. Not to mention that there are a billion and one Red references. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:26, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::Made it to Pallet. The mailbox says "Red's house". So yeah. I don't think she's here. However, there is a slim possiblity of her name being changed to Red in this game. But I highly doubt it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:11, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Actually, I think it's already been proven that Leaf isn't in HG/SS from what I know after watching the HG video with Kotone in it. I think it might be possible that the designers may have planned her to be in HG/SS. I don't know about you guys but do you think she could be in beta?{{unsigned|LeafGreen}}
::::::::Yeah, I actually {{tt|[http://community.livejournal.com/pokemon/3055811.html found her hidden in the game]|I'm totally trollin', guys.}}. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 05:32, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Well today, I made it to the top of Mt Silver as Kotone. Guess who was there? Give you a hint, it wasn't Leaf :D --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 07:50, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

== Absence in other canons? ==

From what I've seen, she only appears in Special, as Blue, and in Firered/Leafgreen. Not in the anime, not in any other manga, not in any cards, not any figurines, etc.. I've only ever seen two official arts for her, the regular one and one with her and a Combusken. Does she appear in any other media? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 21:00, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
:Can you provide a shot of the one with the Combusken? Or a link?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 01:35, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
:: [http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee357/Pichu_Chu/6588.jpg This]. I think that's from the Game Freak website, they have had tons of official art there. Well, she did appear in that "Pocket Monsters" manga, so that counts..But, only two manga counterparts, and her one game appearence? She still seems pretty absent. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 00:45, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
She appears in Pokemon Colosseum too or is that just a cameo or beta thing because Red, May, and Brendon have are there [[User:Pika Blue|Pika Blue]] 7:29, 3 November 2009
:Does she appear in a playable way, or is it just a background thing?--[[User:Champion Victoria|Champion Victoria]] 11:46, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
That i really don't know all i know is that her image is there somewhere i haven't played the game myself i think its part of some marketing ploy at the time to get people to buy LeafGreen and FireRed along with Sapphire, Ruby, and Emerald.Because like I said before May, Red, and Brendon are there too. [[User:Pika Blue|Pika Blue]] 12:20, 22 December 2009

== Can I add this? ==

That leaf's clothes are opposites to Red's. As in Red's pants are the same color as her shirt and her red's shirt is the same color as her skirt. Same as for his and hers hats. Basically its showing they are counterparts.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:14, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
::It seems notable enough to add, no other characters share that yet. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 05:30, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Alright then, lets see what happens.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 01:04, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
::::Seems like a ridiculously convoluted way of saying it. Considering that all of the other game characters who are male/female counterparts wear similar clothes... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:27, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

== Is this Leaf? ==

Where did this [http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee357/Pichu_Chu/botunennga.jpg image] come from? It seems to have something to do with this [http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee357/Pichu_Chu/6588.jpg one]. Those are the only two non-main official Leaf artwork I know of, they're all by Sugimori too. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 20:05, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
:Wow neat find, I'm not sure, it looks like leaf, umm is it just random artwork or like the TCG?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:06, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
::The first one I think doesn't have enough color to distinguish much--take off the brim of the hat and it would probably more resemble Dawn. The second one, however, as far as I can tell, is definitely based off this design (nevermind the fact that she's near a Pokémon heavily associated with May). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 04:28, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

== Blue eyes? ==

Doesn't Red's sprite show him with blue eyes too? Plus, her pre-game sprite shows her with brown eyes, doesn't it? Her back sprite seems to show her with brown eyes too. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 01:03, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

== Title ==

Could someone upload Leaf's Title sprite from FRLG? Red has his, but Leaf doesn't. --[[User:ShinyPikachu/Petition|Never Give Up]] [[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 13:03, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS ==

The article says her name was in the games. Does that mean she was supposed to be in it, or is her name just there for another reason? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 22:38, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
:You mean about the name "Leaf" is alternates for Dawn and Kotone? That just means they just share name. Or where soy talking about something out. Or do you mean about the dummied-out character? That was for FRLG.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 22:41, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
::It should say FRLG then, because in that context it makes it sound like they're talking about HGSS. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 18:45, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
:"Leaf's name was found in HeartGold and SoulSilver's data as a dummied-out opponent Trainer, alongside Red (whose name is Red as it was before)." Seems like they're talking about HGSS. Is this information correct anyway? >_> -- [[User:Zedd|Zedd]] 14:16, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
::It IS true. But that's in FRLG, not HGSS. That's where her name comes from also. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:50, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

== Credits sprite ==

It's a little bit botched. Can someone make a new animation?—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 23:11, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==
Both, Leaf and Red artoworks are holding pokeball and VS-seeker. This could be nice trivia? - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Banetoid}} ([[User talk:Banetoid|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Banetoid|contribs]]) ''

:No. There's nothing trivia worthy about that. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 06:10, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

==Cameo ==
First, sorry for my english
I haven`t played this game but I know that Drill Dozer was made by Gamefreak and I found this
http://www.spriters-resource.com/gameboy_advance/drilldozer/sheet/19334
I looks like one of Jill costumes is the same as Leaf.
This could be a trivia. {{unsigned|Virus bass}}
:Neat find. I think so.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 21:31, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

== Is this looking too much into it? ==

Leaf and Kris are the first female players of their regions and are not reused again?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:27, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:04, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

== Why Leaf and not Green? ==

Okay, honestly, this makes no sense. I understand that you're taking the internal data as evidence, but internal data shouldn't always be taken as canon. If we named every character based on the internal data, then Blue would be called Terry, and Barry would be called Cedric, among others. Their internal files are called that for whatever reason, but that doesn't mean that it should be their official name. I understand that your reasoning for using the internal data to support the name "Leaf" is because she's never officially named in game, unlike Red, Blue, Ethan, Lyra, Brendan, May, Lucas, Dawn, etc., but there [i]is[/i] evidence outside of game canon that supports the name "Green". Yes, most of the time you shouldn't take media outside of game canon as evidence, but that's exactly what you did when you decided to name the DPPt Rival "Barry", isn't it? And why did you do that? Because it was the most logical choice. The name "Barry" is present in the games as one of the preset names, and it's also supported in other media, media which also uses the canon name of Dawn, so it can be assumed that the name they're using for Barry is the intended canon name for him. Leaf's situation is no different. She's already been named "Green" in the manga (that is, in the English version, since the names of Blue and Green are swapped in Japan, but since this is an English wiki we use the English names), and it fits the Red/Blue/Green naming pattern, so why should we completely ignore those facts and instead go with "Leaf"?! It's just not logical. Whatever the verdict is, she'll always be Green to me, and she should be to everyone else, too. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 08:10, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:She's Leaf. Period and end of story. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:27, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::Why? Because you say so? Did you even read everything I wrote? You guys did this with Barry, so what's stopping you from doing it with Leaf/Green? —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 15:27, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::This has been discussed before, and there was a perfectly good reason for naming her Leaf. It probably says it in official guidebooks or something. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 18:55, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::I'm aware that it has been discussed before, but to my knowledge, the only solid evidence to support the name "Leaf" is from internal data. And like I said in my first post, there are so many things wrong with taking the internal data as an official name, especially when there's a much more logical name. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 19:33, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::This is like saying Brendan should be named Ruby. Leaf is what she's known as, that's the end of it. Nothing is stopping ''you'' from calling her Green, but that doesn't make it her real name. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 19:51, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::No, it's not at all like calling Brendan Ruby. Brendan has been officially named in the games, Leaf/Green hasn't. Since we don't have an official name to go by in the games, we should name her based on logic and evidence in other media. Green makes the most sense, and it's backed up by the manga. Leaf doesn't make sense at all. We know that she was planned to be in the Generation I games but never made the cut, so why would we call her Leaf, when the Fire/Leaf thing didn't come until Generation III? And Red isn't called Fire, is he? No, he's called Red, just like Blue is called Blue, and just like how "Leaf" should be called Green. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 20:09, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::Red isn't called Fire because he's been named in GSCHGSS. Leaf and the Green from Adventures are different characters, just like Red and Ash are. One's name should not affect the other. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 20:13, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::That's a different situation, though. And although Leaf/Green from FireRed/LeafGreen is a different character from the Adventures Green, they're clearly based on each other. Red and Blue have their canon names in Adventures, so why should we assume that Green's name isn't the canon one used? Yes, later characters are named after their versions in the manga, but those are different generations, where the naming scheme has been changed in the games. In Generation one, their names were all colors, so why should Red's female counterpart be any different? Also, you guys are contradicting yourselves. You used the anime's name for Barry because he didn't have an official name in the games, and that's A-OK to you, but when we're talking about Leaf/Green it's wrong? Why is that? You went with Barry because it was the most logical choice, that's why. It's supported by both the games (as one of the random preset names) ''and'' the anime, and the same anime also uses the official name for the character Dawn, so there's really no reason not to trust it. It was the best choice there was, so you used it. And Green is the best choice for the name of the female protagonist of FireRed/LeafGreen, and planned female protagonist of Generation I, so why aren't we using it? —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 20:24, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I hope you realize, Tyeforce, that when an admin (TTE no less...) says that it's the end of the convo, then stop. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:35, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Sorry, I'd just like to know why he's so set on the name Leaf when Green is the more logical choice. If he's the admin, then he must have approved the change from Pearl to Barry, so why is he sticking with Leaf instead of Green? And if I can't voice my opinion here anymore, can I take it to the forums, or will my thread just be locked and I'll be told to shut up with no reason given like what's happening here?—[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 20:44, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::As much as I'm inclined to disagree with his choice in naming, I believe he is acting in his rights to call the name into question. No one likes to edit a wiki that has draconian admins, after all. However, I believe he's failed to produce the evidence that's required: What is there, ingame, that says her name should be Green? Nothing, as far as I can tell. Barry at least had it as a default name in two games (Barry [the name] was in Platinum, right?). Leaf's absence from Pokémon Canon makes Leaf her only logical name.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 20:53, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::You talk as if Leaf/Green didn't have "Green" as an option for her name in her games, either. She did, just as is the case with Barry. But Barry's not the ''only'' default name he's given. It's just one among many. So what made Bulbapedia decide to call him Barry? The fact that the anime also calls him that. And the ''same exact situation'' can apply to Leaf/Green. Like Barry, she's never officially named in game, except for the list of default names, of which includes the name "Green". But she's also named Green outside of game canon, just like Barry was named for that exact same reason, so that's what we should call her. If somebody didn't decide to give her the name Leaf (yes, I know that it was based on internal data, but I've already given reasons as to why that can't be taken as an official name) and name this article so, then people would be calling her Green, the most logical choice. It's Bulbapedia's fault that her name is widely accepted as "Leaf" now, just like it was Bulbapedia's fault that so many people started calling the DPPt Rival "Pearl". You have to understand that what you say here greatly affects the entire Pokémon community, so it's very easy for false information to be taken as fact. Now, I'm not saying that it's a ''fact'' that Red's female counterpart is named Green, but there's much more evidence that supports it as opposed to calling her Leaf, and it's just more logical. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 21:09, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:(Gogo Indent Reset) Responding to each claim in order: But you see, it doesn't matter that Green is also an option because we could just as easily substitute in any of her other default names and argue it on that case. Green is only a default if you're playing LeafGreen; for FireRed, she'd just as well be called Fire. As far as Barry is concerned, the name is not only in Diamond, but also Platinum, which gives that name the ingame edge it needs over Clint, the top default name from Pearl. Your arguments that she is Green outside the game canon are pointless because she doesn't exist in any other canon; "Green" from Pokemon Adventures was established long before FireRed and LeafGreen were announced, and is thus an entirely separate character (if the separate wiki articles didn't already clue you in). Barry is named such because it is his default name in Platinum, giving Barry a 2-to-1 bias over Clint, and a 2-0 over Pearl. Leaf has no such out; in FR, she can be called Red or Fire, and in LG she can be called Leaf or Green. Any name is just as likely as the others (except Red, obviously). The ingame data in this case acts as final arbiter: it could have been literally any name and it would have won out (due to being present in both FireRed AND LeafGreen). I still don't see how Green is any more likely than Leaf; Leaf has a spot on the default names list AND the ingame data, where Green only has the default names list. You aren't providing the evidence you need. Probably because it doesn't exist.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 21:24, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::You're completely ignoring the fact that the character Leaf/Green has existed since Generation I. Not as a playable character, but in official artwork, and we know she was intended to be in the games, but just never made the cut. With that in mind, why would you go with the name "Leaf", which makes no sense, considering that the terms Fire and Leaf hadn't been introduced until Generation III? And I know that she's not the same exact character as the Green in the manga canon-wise, but it's clear as day that the two ''are'' the same character, just in different canon. Since her counterpart and rival have kept their color names throughout the generations, why should her name be an element and not a color? You can through game data at me all you want (by the way, where is your proof that the name "Green" only appears in LeafGreen, but "Leaf" appears in both?), but it just doesn't make sense. Since we no official name for her, have to think about what the developers' intent is. Do you think that they would call her Leaf, or the more logical choice, Green? It would appear that "Green" is the intended name, since it's used in the Adventures manga (which is the closest media to the game canon other than the games themselves), and it fits the color naming scheme. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 21:54, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::The flaw with your first point is if we go by that logic {{p|Shellos}} would be a Generation III Pokémon. If the character wasn't present in the games, no amount of intention is going to put them there. That puts your question to rest as well; Leaf because the Character didn't exist in Generation I. Saying it's clear as day means nothing; you're talking about 'the manga' like it's somehow more infallible than the games themselves (I must have skipped over the part of the game where my PC was kidnapped by Ho-Oh and spent several years in Johto). As for proof that Leaf is in both games, Leaf is the dummied out name for the character in both games (similar that Red is the default in both games for the dummied out character that had his face, as well as whatever the weird name that Blue had in FRLG). In the naming screen, the opposite game's name is '''never''' an option; You don't start up Red and see Blue as the default name for your character. So it would be reasonable to assume that neither Leaf nor Green are options for the default names in FireRed. Thus there are two separate instances of Leaf (ingame default name and the dummied out trainer with her sprite) and only one instance of Green (the ingame default name). Finally, you have yet to show any proof that Green is more suited than Leaf. Manga-based arguments are irrelevant, as they aren't the same character (even if their bases are the same).--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 22:13, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Just stop arguing pointlessly. People all over call her Leaf. Leaf is the generally excepted name. As for the reason, I don't know. You can wait for TTEchidna to explain why, but don't argue with yourselves, when you don't know all the facts. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 00:38, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::Not claiming that Japanese fandom is the be-all end-all by any stretch of the imagination, but I just want to point out that I have never seen ''any'' Japanese fans call Leaf "Blue." They usually call her, indeed, "Leaf" (リーフ). Other names I've seen from J-fandom have been "Fuguri" (フグリ) and "main character♀" (主♀)... never "Blue." Just thought I'd point that out. :3 [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 00:49, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::What's "Fuguri" mean? Sorry if that's obvious...--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 01:02, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::"Fuguri" comes from "Rii'''fu guri'''in" (or rather, LeafGreen). :3 [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 01:07, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
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 [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 01:34, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:Since it wouldn't let me post for some reason earlier today, I didn't get to post my reply to [[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]]. I'll go ahead and post what I tried to post earlier today but couldn't.

:Even if she wasn't physically present in the Generation I games, if she was, she would've been named Green, not Leaf. Since Red isn't renamed Fire and Blue isn't renamed Water in Generation III, why should we call her Leaf, instead of sticking with colors? And you're confusing me about the default name ''Leaf'''s presence in the games. At first you said that Green is only present in LeafGreen, but Leaf is present in both versions. Now you turn around and say that both Green ''and'' Leaf are only present in LeafGreen. Which is it? If the latter is true, then Green has just as much in game support as Leaf does, excluding unseen dummy files in the game data. You even brought up the fact that Blue's name in the game data is strange, not being Green like it should be (since that's his Japanese name). If we can't trust the internal data for Blue's name, then why should we trust it for Leaf/Green's name? With that said, if you exclude the internal data that can't be taken as fact and media outside of the games, then both names, Green ''and'' Leaf, have the same amount of supporting evidence for them (that is, assuming your first comment about the name Leaf being present in FireRed wasn't true, as you later suggested). They're tied, 1-1. So you have a choice to make. Should you go with the name that's present in placeholder data in the game (which can't be trusted, as shown by Blue's placeholder data), or should you go with the name that's also used in other media, ''and'' is more logical, fitting the color naming scheme? I think the choice is pretty obvious. Green is the name to go with. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 06:13, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
::Because she wasn't officially /in/ Gen I can she be inclusive to it. She existed as art and an idea that wouldn't come to fruition until Kris: a heroine choice. She may have "exist", but she is not a canon character until Gen III. This being her official debut, she has nothing to go on but these two games. She cannot be called Green, since FireRed is the Alpha game, making the "Green" character the rival (in essence). But seeing as there is no third game to possibly pawn her off on, the last bit is to chop the title in half, one name for the rival, and one name for the girl. Because the rival isn't officially 'Blue' by Gen III standards, since no Blue game exists in Gen III. Yes, he ''is'' Blue, in every English Gen that ''isn't'' the third. And since he's not Blue, but "Green," she, as a Gen III character, cannot be "Green". Hence. As she is a Gen III character only (so far), she cannot be named by the standards of Gen IV, only her own generation. If she had made an appearance in Gen IV...only ''then'' could her name be argued beyond the scope of her limited exposure. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 15:46, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Okay, now ''that'' makes sense. I hadn't thought of it that way. ''Thank you'' for actually providing logical evidence besides placeholder data that can't be trusted or fandom nonsense. If someone would have pointed that out a long time ago, I would've never argued over her name. So, again, I thank you for being the one to provide real, logical, valid evidence as to why she should be called Leaf. No longer will I call her Green. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 03:18, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:::: What's wrong with just saying this: Okay, so there's a "trio" from each Generation, correct? And each trio is named either with real names, or with version names. From Hoenn, we have Brendan, May, and Wally. From Sinnoh, we have Lucas, Dawn, and Barry. From Johto, we have Ethan, Lyra, and Emoguy. Anyways, since each "trio" follows a theme, meaning that the names have to be consistent with one another. Emoguy was given no clear name in HG/SS, so I can understand why we still call him Silver, since Ethan was previously known as Gold, but ANYWAYS, each name in the trio has to be consistent. Logically, what makes more sense: Red, Leaf, and Blue? Or Red, Green, and Blue? If it's that hard to notice people, '''the Kanto trio are named after colors''' Notice how "Leaf" is not a color. Just saying. EDIT: bah, screw it, who cares, it's just a name, afterall, Kris wasn't named Crystal. Leaf ftw! [[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] 16:17, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

== Fuguri ==

Do you know that it means "testicles" in Japanese? Whoever calls her that, he's probably NOT serious about this name. And this makes this not trivia-worthy. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:27, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:I do know that it means that, but fans do seriously call her by that name, and in a perfectly well-meaning manner. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 23:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:Kay, so some kind anons on 2ch were able to clear up for me the true origins behind the name "Fuguri." Here's the answer that I ultimately received.
::''The very first FireRed/LeafGreen thread was titled "FireRed LeafGreen" (ファイアレッドリーフグリーン) without the &.''
::''Because of that, people responded with, "FireRedLee & Fugurin (ファイアレッドリー＆フグリーン)? What an obscene title!"''
::''I have a feeling that's how the "Fuguri" thing started.''
::''Incidentally, the male protagonist was also called "Red Lee." Though now the names "Remake Red" and "Leaf" have permeated [the fandom].''
:So yes, while it started out as a joke because of the word "scrotum," it turned into a legitimate fandom name for her, and people do call her that in all seriousness, without any obscene intentions behind it. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 00:23, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
::I think it's somewhat like the fail pronunciation of Lyra's name as "Coat Own". They see "ko" and know "co", but "tone" doesn't read to them as two syllables, since it's an English word. And no one cares to read up on kana. You'd know someone meant Lyra if they called her Coat Own in a video. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:33, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

== PBR ==

You know, I've wondered this for a while. Red and Leaf appeared in the prerelease trailers for PBR; is it possible for players to assemble their outfits in PBR through the accessories, or not? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:34, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

== Leaf is her most common name? ==

The last trivia states this. However until recently she was mostly known as "Blue" in the fandom, due to Blue from Special. Even now she's still well-known as Blue. On a different note..Is a screenshot of her BR beta appearence article-worthy? Does anyone even have a somewhat high quality screen-shot? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 04:00, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
:As far as I know(which isn't much, as I came into the fandom during DP), she is known as Leaf. Her manga counterpart is the one most commonly known as Blue(for silly reasons). '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:20, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
::Leaf's Special counterparts name is Blue though..Anyway, Leaf up until recently has been synonymous with "Blue" or "Green" up until recently. Even now, a lot of people call her "Blue" on both sides of the fandom. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 22:02, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Actually, since The rival is known both as Blue and Green, It is safer to call her leaf.
And The PBR pic,the trailer Even on better sites like IGN, Is pretty low quality.
Unless someone has a better vid, we can't get a better picture. {{unsigned|Kanto Girl}}

== Early Design ==

I was looking on the internet, and found an image that looks like it could have been Leaf's original design. I cant upload the image, but I can give a link:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PokemonRedAndBlue?from=Main.ptitleevcce3c2

Go down to "What could have been" and click on female protagonist and you will see a pre design of Leaf. [[User:Iml908|Iml908]] 20:27, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
:[[Unreleased Pokémon and characters|We already have that]] [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 20:31, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

== Unknown ==

Shouldn't this article be tagged with {{template|Unknown name}}?
[[User:LurKasumi|LurKasumi]] 04:42, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
:In the internal game data of FRLG, her sprite is associated with the name "Leaf", just like the male character is named "Red", so it's valid. [[User:Duke R|'''|) u |( e''']] [[User talk:Duke R|'''®''']] 13:17, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

== Headwear ==

I remember that a few years back, this page had an interesting point of trivia. "If Leaf had been included in Red and Green with her original design, she would have been the only playable character to date without headwear." Well, that was the gist of it, but I'm sure it was worded better. Even now, 20 years after the original games, this is still true. Well, in the Playable Characters' default forms at least. Sun and Moon's protags are apparently able to remove their hats through customization. Could that be re-added? Or is it too random a trivia point to put down, especially since it's about an "if" rather than something that actually happened?
--[[User:BlackButterfree|BlackButterfree]] ([[User talk:BlackButterfree|talk]]) 02:42, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
:I would say not to re-add it. It's a pretty convoluted point, and like you said it never happened. [[User:Litwick96|Litwick]][[User Talk:Litwick96|96]] 02:51, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

== Comics ==

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What exactly are these comics? Some early comic book? {{unsigned|RubyLeafGreenCrystal}}
:It looks like it was from some sort of craft (like origami) book. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:38, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

== Leaf now called Green in Pokémon Let's Go? ==

Just read this now:

https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2018/11/7/18072704/pokemon-lets-go-trailer-red-blue-green-trainer-fights

It looks like '''Leaf''', who was just announced on the newslink above as making a guest appearance on [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]], won't be officially named Leaf but Green instead! But if Green was the Japanese name for [[Blue (game)|Blue]], then how will she be named in Japanese if "Leaf" is dropped for "Green"? (Also posted this on [[Talk:Player character#Leaf now called Green in Pokémon Let's Go?|Talk:Player character]].) [[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn (Pokémon Sun Trainer ID: 768426)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 14:33, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
:So far the only [https://pokemon.gamespress.com/THE-ELITE-FOUR-RETURN-WITH-A-FRESH-NEW-LOOK official news release] by Pokemon.com and their social media sites make no verbal mention of Red, Blue, and Leaf/Green. They don't even provide official clean renders of the artwork of the later four Gym Leaders, which the English trailer showed. Until we get clarification from Pokémon itself, or the game releases, we can only consider this idle speculation by Polygon.
:That said, if her name DOES indeed turn out to be Green, it will contradict what we considered to be the official source for Leaf's name after years of silence: [[a:File:Leaf and Squirtle artwork.png|her Kotobukiya ArtFx J concept art]]. - [[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]] 14:58, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
:: Whatever she will be called (probably Leaf) we should consider that the Let's Go games might take place in their own separate canon from the other core games (I don't deny they're main series, I question if they're a separate branch in the main series) since the new protagonists seem to replace the classic ones in Pallet Town while the classic ones are still existing and out and about.
::(and I don't mean a different timeline, but actually a completely different continuity like the anime and manga that does it's own thing different from the games)
::So perhaps in that case a separate page, for example Red(Let's Go) and the Red(game) page we have, coexisting as counterparts would be in place.
::It's still just speculation at this point of course, we'll have to wait and see...--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 08:41, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
:::Just wait until the games are released before you start suggesting all of this, please. We'll have the answers soon enough. Then we'll decide what to do. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 12:33, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
::::Well yes of course but I see no harm in brainstorming potential scenarios to be at least a bit more prepared at release for what may come.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 15:22, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
:Unless we see official confirmation that the LGPE character is the same character we currently call Leaf (alternate timelines nonwithstanding), LGPE is unlikely to affect this page's name. I doubt being "the female Gen I trainer" is enough to count as Leaf, because it would be similar to the {{ga|Kris}}/{{ga|Lyra}} situation. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 01:31, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
::Well, she is confirmed to be called Green in-game as seen in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPwtcdhlL3Q [[User:Sucoleo|Sucoleo]] ([[User talk:Sucoleo|talk]]) 08:41, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
:::Don't be funny. The game literally slaps us in the face that she's one and the same, by giving her an intermediate design between her Gen I and Gen III self. Don't grasp at straws. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 09:34, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
::::I agree that this is definitely meant to be the same character. Her top is clearly just inverted colours of her FRLG design, she's wearing shorts instead of a skirt and not wearing a hat. This change in design seems to be more of a difference like {{ga|May}} between her RSE and ORAS design than a {{ga|Kris}}/{{ga|Lyra}} difference. [[User:Tarawl|Tarawl]] ([[User talk:Tarawl|talk]]) 15:27, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::Whether Blue/Leaf is the same character or not, this does not affect Leaf as the official name of FRLG female protagonist. Yea, this is like Kris/Lyra case. Some people think that they are the same character, and Some people don’t. And Red(original/remake), Gold/Ethan, Elio(SM/USUM) and Selene(SM/USUM) are the same case also, although Bulbapedia has different treatments for them each. [[User:E9310103838|E9310103838]] ([[User talk:E9310103838|talk]]) 16:10, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::That's some pomfed logic to me. If it wasn't for the Kotobukiya figure, this issue would be non-existant. Different names for nameable characters exist, like they always did. There's absolutely no reason to split articles. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 18:00, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
::::Darn... had she be named Leaf like the figurine, that would have been more wise of Pokémon as to alleviate a bit the whole Blue/Green shenanigans that the fandom has been stuck with for years. I guess game-npc name takes preference over a figurine assigned name in this case I suppose...--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 19:08, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
:::It all comes down to Japanese names here. If (and only if) the LGPE character's Japanese name is リーフ, the two characters are one and the same. If the characters do not share a Japanese name, then there is nothing connecting the two, aside from both being derived from the unused Gen 1 girl. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 02:00, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
::::If you plan to maintain only one page, then hope that you use the corresponding official artwork, instead of using Leaf’s artwork and call this page Green. [[User:E9310103838|E9310103838]] ([[User talk:E9310103838|talk]]) 07:24, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::If they're two separate characters, a new page for [[Green (game)]] would need to be created. (It's currently a redirect to [[Blue (game)]], because of the localization name switch.) [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 12:02, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
::::Even if Green goes by Blue in Japanese instead of Leaf, everything else about the two still connects them together. she is design-wise obviously not a different character, Red and Blue aren't different characters either and neither would she be, ''unused Gen 1 girl'', Leaf and Green are all the same girl and have always been the same girl. Arguing otherwise is really unnecessarily grasping at straws. Unless Let's Go is of a different separate canon, then perhaps would it be in place for most characters to have a (Let's Go)version page, like how the anime versions of characters often have their own (anime)version page, (manga), Ash(M20) etc.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 17:24, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::Yep, I agree. It's clear that they're one and the same. This page itself already considers Leaf to be the same as the "unused Gen 1 girl" -- which is Green/Blue in Let's Go. Design-wise, this case is much different from the Kris/Lyra situation. Leaf and Green share the exact same design (brown hair, brown eyes, same hair, same shirt). It's just that the clothes are a little different. They're based on the same "unused Gen 1 girl". It's very obvious they're the same character. Kris and Lyra were different enough to warrant the split, but the same can not be said for Leaf and Green. The page should be renamed to Green. If anyone is still wondering, her Japanese name is indeed Blue (ブルー) in-game as seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J26t65DI7j0 [[User:Sucoleo|Sucoleo]] ([[User talk:Sucoleo|talk]]) 19:18, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::Basically this. It's so obvious that it's meant to be the same character, the only way it could be more conclusive is if Masuda or someone else outright states it. This is more like the Gold/Ethan situation over the Kris/Lyra situation where the new name just replaces the old one in canon (If Leaf could have even been considered canon) rather than a whole new character replacing in canon. It also makes the most sense as the canon name (Red, Blue, Green vs. Red, Blue, Leaf). [[User:Tarawl|Tarawl]] ([[User talk:Tarawl|talk]]) 20:29, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::Look at my side of the argument again. There is no official source indicating Green is derived from Leaf, and visually she's the unused Gen 1 girl with a few elements taken from Leaf. And on top of that, she has a different Japanese name despite Leaf being officially named in Japanese ''during the development of Let's Go''. Given what I've just said, any claim that Leaf and Green are the same character is pure speculation, and we don't deal in speculation. We waited for over three years for a source to say Zygarde was part of a trio despite it being "obvious", so there's no reason for us to claim Green is Leaf without a source. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 04:45, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::I agree with Bwburke94. I propose that we create a new page for the unused female character from Generation I and include information about Green from Pokémon Let's Go on that page. Leaf and Green seem to be strongly indicated to be separate characters; although Leaf is partially based on the unused character from Generation I, there is no evidence at the moment to suggest that they are one and the same. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 05:47, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::Sure. Let's split it into three - "the unnamed Gen I girl", "Leaf the FRLG character" and "Green the NPC". I also recommend making a separate article for the Kotobukiya figure, just in case. Or... I know, maybe let's telephone Junichi Masuda on the matter? Is John Gamefreak's nephew in da house?! *A Poké Ball came flying at you* --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 08:37, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::Dude, don't be like that. You make yourself look dumber than you make us look. We're trying to have a civil discussion about an issue on a Pokémon fan wiki. Being sarcastic like that helps nobody. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 10:03, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::I'm not the one who started talking insane. Really, the game slaps you in the face with obvious evidence, yet you people say "hurr speculation durr unconfirmed". If you need an official statement like "She is/isn't the same character", then in all seriousness, the only way is to contact someone from Game Freak, because official materials will most likely never give you that. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 11:46, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::If you have evidence, then by all means provide it. Keep in mind it needs to prove that Green is Leaf, but not necessarily that Green and/or Leaf is the Gen 1 trainer. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 12:51, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::::[https://twitter.com/revolocities/status/1063193075655237632 For the love of Arceus...]--[[User:YoHaNe|YoHaNe]] ([[User talk:YoHaNe|talk]]) 12:58, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::::I don't think you understood what I meant. The evidence needs to prove that ''Green is Leaf''. Not that Green might be Leaf, or that Green and Leaf share a character pose. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 13:18, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

== Is LGPE Green the same person as Leaf? ==

Starting a new section because the last one got a bit out of hand.

My argument is as follows: Green shares more visual similarities with her Gen 1 design than she does with Leaf, and shares her Japanese name with her Gen 1 design but not with Leaf. Because Leaf's Japanese name was given to her during the development of LGPE, she would have been named as "Blue" (ENG Green) on that figure if she were the same character as Green. Also, there are no official sources that state that Leaf is the same character as either version of Green.

This means that the following course of events is very possible: Nintendo/Game Freak decided to put Red/Blue/Green in LGPE. Because Red and Blue are based on their Gen 1 designs, they chose to use Green from Gen 1 instead of Leaf from Gen 3, despite the fact Green didn't make it into the finished version of Gen 1. Green did take some traits from Leaf, but is still a distinct character of her own.

If any of you can refute that statement, feel free to respond. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 13:39, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:My argument is that the Green we see in LGPE shares all physical features with Leaf and wears a hybrid outfit of hers and Leaf(these similarities were not the case with Kris and Lyra) and are both associated as part of the Kanto trio.

:Back when FRLG came out they updated the original trio, Red got a new outfit, Blue got a new outfit and unused gen 1 girl got a new outfit, she so happened to be named Leaf in the data so that is the name she got stuck with on here, but that holds no merit, Blue was named Terry in the data, so should there be a Terry(game) page? No, of course not. Had she be named Green back then, I'd highly doubt we would be having this discussion and everyone would easily accept that it is the same character just like everyone accepts that fact for Red and Blue.

:We never needed official sources that confirmed that Red and Blue from FRLG were the same characters from RGB, but we need one now for Green? I'm sorry but I'm genuinely baffled.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 14:20, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

::Your argument relies on the assumption that Leaf is directly based on the protagonist from the unused Pokémon art. The creators never confirmed this, only that she drew inspiration from that character. This new Green is inspired by both the unused character and Leaf, that part is true, but "inspired by" is not the same as "is the same character". There is overwhelming evidence to support that Red and Blue are the same characters as the original, especially because they have appeared in multiple games before this. I would also like to add that Leaf's FR/LG appearance is drastically different from the unused character than Red and Blue's appearances compared to their Gen I counterparts, so it seems to me that Game Freak decided to recycle some old concepts while creating Leaf and then return to their original plan for Pokémon Let's Go. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 14:28, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:::You people really overestimate Kotobukiya's value. It's not a Game Freak source (and we don't know their philosophy of naming player characters - for example, if they made a GSC male character figure and named it "Gold", would you split Ethan's article into two? Or if they made an USUM-based "Ailey" figure?) and the FR/LG data name is just unused beta content. The pose and design of her LGPE appearance makes it blindingly clear that they meant Green to represent both the FR/LG girl character and the unused Gen I girl. Of course they wouldn't make her appear in her full FR/LG attire, because that'd be inconsistent with Red and Green's designs in these games. But they gave her some FR/LG elements in order to make her recognizable (not that it was ever a problem to recognize her - to me, Red's Gen I and Gen III designs are way more apart than Green's, but that's of course an opinion). How is it speculation? It's simply logic. I know that Bulbapedia loves denying things until an unambiguous answer is shoved into our faces. But treating the two as separate is just as speculative than treating them as one (I'd say way more speculative, considering that GF is obviously trying to bring their appearances together). They are different characters, but only because of multiverse and in this logic, we would have to split literally everyone. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 14:37, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

::::I propose a compromise because this argument is getting to be ridiculous. We rename this page to Green, but restructure the entire page, starting from the unused character art from Generation I, include a section about Leaf, and finally get to Pokémon Let's Go. In the page itself we should address the character's complicated history. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 14:41, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:::::That I find better than splitting into separate pages--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 14:48, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:::::: I never imagined that a small inquiry I made a few days ago would lead to a bigger argument than the {{ga|Elio}}/{{ga|Selene}} vs Ray/Ailey debate that started one year ago and lasted until about a month ago. Welcome to Bulbapedia again! [[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn (Pokémon Sun Trainer ID: 768426)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 15:03, 17 November 2018 (UTC) (P.S. Splitting this thread into two sections was a wise idea, [[User:bwburke94|bwburke94]].)

:::::::There would also be the header at the top of the page about it having been proposed to split the page into separate pages with the Shedinja.--[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 15:54, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

::::::::IMO, “Leaf” and “Green” are clearly the same character. Green’s design is a hybrid of the designs of the female player character from FRLG and the beta character from Red and Blue. (Her dress is black like in RB, and it has the same ring as the top as it does in FRLG. Additionally, the yellow bag and the hairstyle (without the hat) is the same from FRLG.) She was revealed alongside Red and Blue and she plays a similar role in game to both of them. Heck, her new name even is parallel to Red and Blue’s. It makes sense that the female player character, the male player character, and the rival would be highly connected. I think that just because her new name doesn’t match with a fan name that was given to her long ago and picked up by a non-GAMEFREAK source should not dictate that two characters who, by examining the designs and the roles they play, are the same character, are NOT the same character. But that’s just my opinion. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 16:07, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:::::::::I had just resolved the argument with a compromise and you come in to initiate it again. *sighs* --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 16:11, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::I just wanted to provide my input :/ --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 16:14, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::Well, I'm glad at least that you did so in a reasoned, professional manner, I would honestly have rather had the original discussion with you involved. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 16:19, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::Thank you :) --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 16:23, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::I'd accept the compromise of covering them both on one page, ''as long as'' we continue to call the FRLG character "Leaf". Within the context of FRLG, only one character can reasonably be called "Green" and it isn't her. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 16:44, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::I respectfully disagree... If a canon name is brought in for an official character where there was none before, I don't see the point in continuing to refer to the character as an older fan name for the older games. (For reference, there was a similar discussion at [[Talk:Ethan (game)]] where there was a discussion over the names Gold vs. Ethan.) Besides, there really isn't any other character who can reasonably be called Green in FRLG— we refer to the rival character in FRLG as Blue even though the games are Fire''Red'' and Leaf''Green''. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 18:41, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::In that case, it's not a compromise at all, is it? [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 18:56, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::To Bwburke94: Yes, that is true. I see the point of compromises, but I think it might be better to have more accurate information in this scenario. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 19:36, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::I'm agreeing with renaming because it seems to be her new official name. Along with an edit to the name origin section that would explain the naming confusion. [[User:Tarawl|Tarawl]] ([[User talk:Tarawl|talk]]) 20:01, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:What was the reason why we called the character "Leaf" in the first place, anyway? All I know is that it comes from the female name list of LG, which contains both "Leaf" ''and'' "Green" just like the male name list. Isn't "Leaf" just something fans generally agreed upon in the absence of a single, official name? If that's the case, I see no problem renaming the page "Green". [[User:Immblueversion|Immblueversion]] ([[User talk:Immblueversion|talk]]) 19:33, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::It was a placeholder in the data of FRLG. It's addressed on her page.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 20:04, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::Indeed. Nintendo never officially referred to her as that; we only used the placeholder name because we didn't have a more "official" name. Now that she has finally been given a proper name by the games, I see no reason to keep the current name. [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 21:21, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::The reason she is called Leaf is because it makes more sense within the context of FireRed and LeafGreen. Red and Green in those games are the protagonist and the rival, and since there is no WaterBlue, it makes sense to call the female protagonist option "Leaf" because that way it still parallels the rival's name "Green". And once again, as Bwburke94 and I have said numerous times, we don't HAVE accurate information for this topic. The indication, from our perspective, is strong that there isn't proof Leaf is the same character as Green, but we are willing to come halfway.--[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 21:34, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

::::::Sorry if I am wrong, but I thought that the Rivals (from Gen. 3 onwards, including FRLG and HGSS) were all '''the same character''' as the player character (in, for instance, HGSS, if you chose Ethan, your rival would be Lyra; if you chose Lyra, your rival would be Ethan). [[User:CherubAgent1440|CherubAgent1440]] ([[User talk:CherubAgent1440|talk]]) 13:41, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

:::::In FRLG, the rival's name is "Blue" in the west and "Green" in Japan. This is reversed for the female protag where she is now confirmed to be "Green" in the west and "Blue" in Japan. It makes 100% sense for the female protagonist to be called Green (ブルー in Japanese). In fact, the name "Leaf" doesn't make sense in a naming standpoint due to them being named after the 3 colours of the games. 21:42, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:::::Depends on what you consider proof, I think there is an abundance of proof.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 21:49, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:::::What proof do you need to accept that they're the same character? Just look at them! Their faces, hair, eye color and bags are identical or close to it, and the top of Green's dress is clearly designed to look reminiscent of Leaf's shirt, except color-flipped.[https://www.serebii.net/letsgopikachueevee/rgb/green1.jpg][https://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/4/48/FireRed_LeafGreen_Leaf.png] Red had more changes between his original design and his FR/LG redesign. Do we also need proof that "Gold" and Ethan are the same character? [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 01:56, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

::::::I am afraid this is getting out of hand again… All the debate and contention generated by the Elio/Selene-vs-Ray/Ailey controversy in one year is now being surpassed by this discussion in less than a month. Time to close this section and start a new one below… [[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn (Pokémon Sun Trainer ID: 768426)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 04:06, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

{{indent}}…which I just did right now. The previous thread became just as long as the first one (roughly four 768px-tall browser screens long). And since I was the one who initiated the conversation in the first place, I decided not to take an official stance in this debate — I’ll let you duke it out while I watch the ongoing events. Welcome to Bulbapedia again! [[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn (Pokémon Sun Trainer ID: 768426)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 04:06, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
:You don't have to create a new section when a discussion gets too long for your liking. Just leave it be. If the chain of comments is getting to confusing, just reset the indents (it's what <nowiki>{{indent}}</nowiki> is for).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:19, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

::My comment above was deleted, so I am re-posting it here to continue the above discussion. It makes sense in the context of the series as a whole, but for FR/LG Leaf makes more sense as a counterpart to Green, since a "WaterBlue" doesn't exist in either Japan or America. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 05:40, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
:::... So what if there is no WaterBlue. An identical looking girl exists in association with Red and Blue, it makes sense for the franchise if that girl is the same girl like the other two boys are the same boys.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 10:27, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

::Just to contest a common point being brought up here: Kotobukiya is not a "Game Freak" source, but this does not make it unofficial. Someone at The Pokemon Company obviously had to take a look at the product before deciding that it was an accurate representation of the franchise and gave it the official seal of approval. TPC has a storied history of strictness and standards in interacting with these affiliates. Despite Let's Go already being in development at the time of the figure's conception, they clearly had no issue with Leaf as the character's name. Unless the staff is interested in introducing a magical "degrees of canonicity" system, I don't see why it should be discredited. There are a wellspring of things on the wiki considered canonical by current standards that haven't been directly echoed by Game Freak gospel, but have been run by TPC/TPCI and are considered fine--[[User:ThePacisBack|ThePacisBack]] ([[User talk:ThePacisBack|talk]]) 10:36, 18 November 2018 (UTC).
:::Kotobukiya is definitely an official source— we used it for the names of Elio and Selene— but information in the games themselves that would contradict what something like Kotobukiya says would definitely override it. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 13:48, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
::::Problem is, there is no "information in the games themselves" to state that Leaf and Green are the same person. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 14:31, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::What would be information in the games that states that Red in LGPE is the same one as the one from RGB or FRLG?--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 14:46, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::His name, for one. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 15:47, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
::Leaf indeed as an official name now. Not only the names of all Kotobukiya collections are taken from the official name. (Even the official names of several characters are used for publicity for the first time. Before that, they were only called male and female protagonists in publicity.) They even invited Ken Sugimori to draw the model of Red's figure of Pokemon Center Original. Prove that the name they adopted is recognized by GF. Regardless of whether Blue(Green) and Leaf are in the same character or how to deal with this page, I Just want to defend the name "Leaf" XD. Unlike Fire(FRLG Red) as an fan name and Ray/Ailey as half official names (They have never been officially confirmed). By the way, Gold(Jimmy) and Ethan obviously in the anime as different characters XD [[User:E9310103838|E9310103838]] ([[User talk:E9310103838|talk]]) 15:46, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::The gen 1 protagonist was named Satoshi and the rival was named Shigeru, then the rival in FRLG was named Terry, seems like if Leaf should be a separate character than so should good ol' Terry, Satoshi and Shigeru--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 16:05, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::Danyyel, I feel like a more accurate comparison would be the male player character in GSC vs HGSS: How do we know that "Gold" and Ethan are one and the same? The answer, at least to someone around the time that HGSS came out, is common sense. Very similar design, same role in-game, etc. Similar case with Elio vs. "Ray", or "Leaf" vs. the scrapped character from Red and Blue, for that matter. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 16:09, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::(responding to Bwburke94) Sure there is; their designs. PLG Green is literally Leaf with different clothes and an extra fringe on her forehead. Can you name two player characters who look identical like Green and Leaf do yet are considered separate characters? [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 19:03, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

{{indent}} At the moment, we're keeping it on one page. However, in contexts referring to the FRLG protagonist, she should be referred to as "Leaf", and in contexts referring to the LGPE NPC, she should be referred to as "Green" (in the same manner as we treat items and moves that have been renamed). If/when the Kotobukiya figurine gets released by TPCi in English, this decision will be reevaluated. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 03:46, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

:I Also think we should have the article separation header with the Shedinja ("this article has been suggested to be split into Green (game) and Leaf (game). Please talk about it on the discussion page..."). It HAS been suggested and it's only fair we give notice so the choice can be re-evaluated when there's more information in the future. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 12:52, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

::I added the page splitting header for pages that have been suggested to be split into multiple articles. As it HAS been suggested, it's only fair; this does not mean the page will actually be split yet. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 10:16, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

:::Honestly I don't think they should be split, and should be just simply referred to as Green. Leaf and Green have similar facial structures, hairstyles, hair color, eye color, and even the same bag. Heck, both her and Red's VS models in Pikachu & Eevee are both nods to their sprites in FRLG. As for her outfit, in the context of Pikachu & Eevee both Red and Blue both use their Gen I designs, so it does make sense that Green's outfit is designed similarly to the prototype female character. As for her name, it's most likely a simple establishment that her name is Green. Similar to Ethan in GSC, it was never established in the games her name was Leaf. Leaf only came from internal game data, which referred to her as such. Granted Kotobukiya did announce a figurine of her under Leaf, but that's all it is, an announcement. For all we know the name could be changed when her figurine is officially released. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 16:45, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

:::It seems to me that the only argument that people have in favor of them being separate characters is their different names. Which, if you ask me, is a pretty weak argument, seeing how she was never called Leaf in the games. PLG was the first time the games gave her a canon name; Leaf can be seen as more of a placeholder name in lieu of a real name, like Gold. Everything else about Leaf and Green supports them being the same character, with their nigh identical designs, and the fact that Green is paired with Red and Blue in PLG. I agree that she should only be referred to as Green by the article. Moreover, while PLG Green's look is clearly based on the design of the unused female player character from Gen I, they altered it to make her look more like Leaf. If Game Freak had intended for her to be seen as a separate character, you would expect them to make her look ''less'' like Leaf, not the other way around. [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 21:24, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

::::As far as Game Freak is concerned, they seem to be treated as separate characters, although Leaf is based on Green. Even in materials published since the release of Let's Go, merchandise and references that allude to the character from FR/LG are referred to under the name "Leaf" (or are otherwise not named at all, like in SSBU) while materials referring to the character from Let's Go Pikachu and Let's Go Eevee refer to her as Green (or Blue, in Japanese). The blue on Green's clothing is a reference to her Japanese name, it's not intended to make her look more like Leaf. Even discounting these facts, there is a lot of circumstantial evidence that suggests they are not meant to be the same character, such as the fact that Leaf is used in media as interchangeable with Red (e.g. Super Smash Brothers Ultimate) and does not have much of a personality, while Green is given her own, more mischievous personality and does not merely function as a mirror to Red (if Green and Leaf were indeed interchangeable, either the FR/LG character would be more fleshed out in her appearances or Green would only repeat "..." in Pokémon Let's Go). If nothing else, separating the pages into Leaf and Green would make it easier for casual Bulbapedia users to follow the content; especially if the Green page incorporated information about the unused player character that we currently have under the unused character designs page. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 05:42, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

:::::Even if they are the "same character", there is enough variation in the portrayals of her between games that it could warrant two separate articles. It's similar to how there's separate pages for Ash from the main show and Ash from the I Choose You universe. The FR/LG portrayal of this character is different enough from the Let's Go portrayal of the character that it's easier to follow if there are two separate articles. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 05:53, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

::::::So then by that, then should the player characters that act as NPCs, such as Ethan, Lyra, Dawn, Lucas, etc. deserve their own articles as NPCs since they exude a personality other than silent protagonist and aren't mirrors to the player character when so. Green can be easily seen in a similar vein to the aforementioned player characters when they're NPCs, since Red has already been long established to be the canon player character of the Gen I games and their remakes. Also why are you using a game that isn't even developed by Game Freak as proof that Leaf and Green aren't the same? Smash Bros. Ultimate is developed by Sora, Ltd. and Namco Bandai, not Game Freak. Lastly, the only thing that refers to Green as "Leaf" is the internal data (which isn't very consistent, and isn't used as a basis for naming characters, ala Barry, Elio, and Selene), and the Kotobukiya figurine '''''announcement''''', as in the figurine hasn't been officially released, and the name could potentially change once it's released. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 18:05, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

:::::"The blue on Green's clothing is a reference to her Japanese name, it's not intended to make her look more like Leaf." < The blue sections on PLG Green's clothes reflect the pattern on Leaf's shirt. Their chest areas look really similar, except color-flipped. You think this is a coincidence? There's also the fact that PLG Green was given the same face and eyes as Leaf, despite her original design having a different face.[https://www.serebii.net/letsgopikachueevee/rgb/green1.jpg][https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Kensugiart4.png] You could argue that her face was redesign to match Sugimori's modern style, but that alone wouldn't explain why her face is a copypaste of Leaf's when other female characters drawn by Sugimori have different faces and eye colors. [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 00:35, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

== Infobox picture ==

Given the unusual nature of this article post-move, would it make sense to use LGPE Green's model for the infobox picture? Having a picture of "Leaf" directly below the name "Green" is a bit weird, but LGPE Green doesn't have any official art that I know of... [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 09:00, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

There's concept art and she'll most likely have official art down the road whenever they decide to use that. The concept art will most likely be used in the infobox until the official art releases, while the FRLG art would be sent to the "other art" infobox near the bottom of the page. I'd be completely fine if all characters had main series designs carried on the main info box though like how Pokemon show their forms, with the current design being the biggest image on it. [[User:TrainerSplash|TrainerSplash]] ([[User talk:TrainerSplash|talk]]) 06:24, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

There is this [https://twitter.com/Paulrobertryan/status/1066694445167517698 settei art...] But in the art-book there are [https://nintendosoup.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/pokemon-letsgo-red-green-official-art-1.jpg more proper individual artworks more befitting for the infobox], there are ones for Red and Blue and I would assume then also for Green. I suppose we wait for the art-book.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 10:58, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Some of the "proper" (i.e. non-settei) arts may also be in the Strategy Guide (English and/or Japanese), in the main walkthrough part. A good quality scan would be much appreciated. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 21:53, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

== The "Green/Leaf" title is REALLY necessary? ==

I don't understand why there's a whole bureaucracy with her name compared to all the other characters.

Honestly... she was NEVER called "Leaf" in any official media. This name was taken from the internal files of the games, which is understandable to use this name until the present time, because it was the closest of a name that we had for her.

But it was never completely introduced into the canon of story, it was always a conjecture that the fandom settled over time. But now that she's finally got her name formally introduced as "Green/Blue" in the games, it seems that this commodity is hindering leaving the name "Leaf" aside.

The same applies to the character "Silver" as we believe it to be his name on bases that are just conjecture. If he has an official name one day, chances are it will be something different. Will we simply put on his page: "Canon name/Silver"? Doesn't sound professional to me.

It's been revealed that her name is Green/Blue, so be it...
Just put in the trivias that her files on FireRed/LeafGreen is named "Leaf", which may be just a "provisional name" which is perfectly common in games archives. [[User:SuzukiTenma|SuzukiTenma]] ([[User talk:SuzukiTenma|talk]]) 18:35, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
: I think a lot of people are getting hung up on the announcement of her Kotobukiya ArtFx J figurine, which refers to her as "Leaf", rather than "Green". Granted it's only an announcement and the name of the figurine could change once released, however the games should definitely take precedence for names of characters. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 23:07, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
:: My argument does revolve around the figurine, but also around the fact that there's no evidence of the two being the same character. My view on this has always been that Leaf and Green are two separate characters derived from the unused Gen I trainer. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 02:53, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
:::If "Leaf" and Green were intended to be separate, then their designs should reflect that, similar to Kris and Lyra, yet they don't. If a simple outfit change is enough to make a whole new character, then, for example, May from RS is not the same from E, and neither are the same from ORAS. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 01:54, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
::::See my response to the Gold/Ethan query below. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 01:42, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
: I agree there isn't much sense in keeping "Leaf" in the infobox and opening paragraph. Even with the Kotobukiya figure being named that, it was never used in the games, so it should be irrelevant. As said, it's just a placeholder name. I recall Red being officially called "Ash" ages ago in a poll asking about what Nintendo characters players would like to see Smash, yet we're not calling him "Red/Ash" in his infobox, are we? [[User:Ericss|Ericss]] ([[User talk:Ericss|talk]]) 00:56, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
:: And {{ga|Ethan}} was called Gold until HeartGold/SoulSilver came out but there's no references to his old name. There's no Ethan/Gold in his infobox, and the article consistently called him Ethan, even in places talking about GSC. And the Pokémon Gold manual has called him Gold, not just in screenshots but also in the story page. I don't know if the Pokémon Silver manual called him Silver in the story summary, but Leaf/Green is a similar situation to Gold/Ethan. Ethan was Gold for a decade. Green was Leaf for fourteen years. And they got renamed by their appearance as an NPC. People are arguing that the Green from Let's Go is a different person from Leaf, but if that's the case, could Ethan be a different person from Gold? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 05:45, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
::: I'll respond to both Sean and Sinjoh here. Gold/Ethan have a different name but basically the same design, while May has the same name ''and'' a very similar design across all three of her appearances. In fact, Emerald May is a direct palette swap of RS May. Meanwhile, Leaf/Green have both different names and different designs. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 01:42, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
::::What do you mean they have different designs? As I and others said, PLG Green is ''identical'' to Leaf besides the clothing. Red and Brendan's redesigns had ''more changes than her.'' [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 03:44, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
:::::I strongly agree... Just look at Elio, his redesign in Ultra is very different than his original design in SM, yet we are still considering him the same character, as we should continue to. I don't see why we have to apply a different set of logic to this character just because a placeholder name has been replaced with an official one. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 18:24, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
::::::The difference with Elio/Selene is that we have an official source to state they are the same characters. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 08:17, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
:::::::Wrong, Selene and Elio are only referred to as such in their SM designs, not their USUM designs. All the evidence people brought regarding their names comes from material that refers to material involving SM, not USUM. Also, you have yet to answer how "Leaf" and Green have different designs past their outfits, as they look very similar to one another. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 12:04, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
::::::::Yep, AFAIK the SM designs are the only ones that have been referred to as Elio and Selene. The names Ray and Ailey have been used in prerelease media for USUM. So the case is the same here; why do we need to use different logic for Green? --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 13:43, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Sorry if i'm getting the whole context wrong, but going by that whole rationale, shouldn't we also apply "Brendan/Landon" to [[Brendan (game)]], since we have the [[Landon (Groundbreakers 41)|Landon]] figure from the TFG? (which is clearly intended to be based off the 'playable' Brendan from Ruby)

Personally, I'm opposed to this whole "Green/Leaf" and "Brendan/Landon" thing.

IMO, '''Green''' should be her main designation for most uses to avoid unneeded convolution.

I don't think insisting on using "Leaf" within the context of FireRed/LeafGreen holds much ground any longer. If we use the internal data to justify that, we'd have to use Terry as [[Blue (game)|Blue]]'s name within the context of FR/LG too. Otherwise "Leaf" is just one of her many default names (as valid as "Fire", "Green", "Red", "Hillary", "June", "Rey", etc)

While figures ARE official and directly based on the games, they're just interpretations, supplementary (and not integral) in nature.

Thus, I think we should only use "Leaf" in sections referring to the Kotobukiya figure, for now. -- [[User:Yagamitaichi|Yagamitaichi]] ([[User talk:Yagamitaichi|talk]]) 02:33, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

:The reason I believe that this should be split into separate pages is because I feel it would make it easier for users of Bulbapedia to follow, especially given the elaborate and complex history of this character. We can retitle the page to just "Green" if you want, but too many articles on this very wiki refer to this character as "Leaf" to simply change the name. Nobody calls Brandon "Landon". I insist that we continue to refer to the character from FR/LG as just "Leaf" on the page. I also think it is very important to start this article with information on the unused character from R/B/G/Y because this page is a mess at the moment. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 02:47, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
::Yagamitaichi, I like your solution: refer to her as Green within contexts of LGPE and FRLG, and as Leaf for the figure for now.

::I don't really see the point in making a page split for two iterations of the same character IMO. It's much simpler and easier to follow to keep all the information on her on one page. Let's just change everything to Green apart from references to the figure. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 02:52, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

:::We do not have PROOF that they are the same character, but even that's besides the point. You are also ignoring that we resolved this issue with an earlier compromise (make one page but refer to her as "Leaf" in the context of FRLG) and people keep bringing the topic back up to try and push their view. The reason being that Green is clearly an attempt to revive the old unused character, while Leaf may or may not be a separate thing entirely. If it was "so obvious" they were the same character the whole time, why keep information about the unused character on a separate page until the release of LGPE, which doesn't prove anything other than to reintroduce the idea of the character of Green? --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 03:20, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
::::FWIW I think people should get to share their own opinions about the matter. If their opinions are, like mine, that we should be using one name for the two iterations of this character, then so be it.

:::: I do remember that the unused character's information was, prior to this whole debate, on this page, and I believe that it still should be, as it is a clear predecessor Green, but I don't understand how that changes anything about Green or "Leaf". If anything, IMO, it only serves to cement that Green from LGPE and Green from FRLG are one and the same.

::::I'd like to go back to your first sentence though. I hope this doesn't come across as rude, but how is Green vs Leaf any different from any redesign for a main character in the past, many of which are even more drastic than this? --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 04:01, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

:::::Although I still stand by my opinion, I am grateful to you for being civil and courteous on the matter and for discussing this in a rational way. Of course people should be allowed to share their opinion; however, I think we should stick with the compromise for now. To answer your question, the difference is in the complicated history of the character. The original unused character was never given a name or even made canon, and so everything that has come after, be it Green or Leaf, can only be seen as interpretations of the character. The Gold/Ethan thing doesn't count because "Gold" was an established character from the beginning, and the Brandon/Landon thing doesn't count because Brandon was an official name and an established character by the time of that figure's release. The LGPE Green was given her name as a reference to Pokémon Adventures and to canonize the unused character, which suggests, at least to me, that they intended for Leaf to be a separate character. Since we've been treating Leaf as a separate character from the unused character from the time of FRLG's release to the time of LGPE's release, I think we should stick with treating them as separate characters for consistency. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 09:35, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
::::::I think I understand your position a little bit more. However, up until November 16 of this year, information on the unused female protagonist was on this page-- we had been treating them as the same up until then, as I also believe we should continue to in the future. Additionally, I think that "Gold" from GSC was just as much of an established character as "Leaf" from FRLG. I don't really think that LGPE Green was given the name "Green" to canonize the unused character and to reference Pokémon Adventures, as she didn't really have a canon name prior to LGPE, just a placeholder name that was widely adopted by the community.

::::::Basically, at least from how I see it, she didn't have a canon name before, and now she has one which is more in line with her [[Red (game)|two]] [[Blue (game)|counterparts]], and she also has a design which merges aspects of her two older designs.--[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 15:59, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

:::::::I second this. Naming her after Pokémon Green/Blue is only natural, after they named the male protagonist and rival after the other versions. The naming scheme isn't exclusive to Pokémon Adventures, so I don't see it as a reference to it. In fact, that wasn't even the only manga to name her that. Her counterpart in Pokémon Pocket Monsters[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Blue_(Ruby-Sapphire)] is called Blue too, despite being clearly based on Leaf from the remakes. [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 02:39, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

:::::::::Obviously they can be the same people. The USUM artbook even has a picture of Elio and Selene (SM style) direct replacement for new clothing. [[User:E9310103838|E9310103838]] ([[User talk:E9310103838|talk]]) 00:21, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
{{indent}}So the way the article is currently written, it seems to be treating Green’s iterations from FRLG and LGPE as the same character. Putting my personal opinions on whether they’re the same character or not aside, this still to me seems super confusing. I know I’m beating a dead horse but honestly it’s ridiculous to have two names for (what we are treating as) one character. Assuming that they’re the same character, why does her being explicitly given a name in LGPE not override whatever Kotobukiya decides to name their figure, especially before it’s even officially released? Using two names for one character is honestly just confusing as hell to read, and the fact that one is from the games explicitly and the other is not just adds to that.

We should use one name universally if we’re going to treat Green as one character, which seems to be what BP is wanting to do. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 13:14, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

== To be or not to be that's the question. (Or why is that even a question in the first place?) ==

So, let's have one final discussion regarding any controversies on "Leaf" and "Green" being the same person or not (let's not confuse with this with the Green/Leaf naming controversy, which is a different, albeit closely related issue). The older ones seems to have become overlong and riddled with personal opinions without much regard to actual evidence on both sides. Things just got harder and harder to follow as time went on.

Pros:

* Same hairstyle as seen on FRLG and Gen I artwork.
* Obvious FRLG influences on her attire (backpack is exactly the same from FRLG, and that little pattern on the collar is now blue)
* Red and Blue are 'slightly updated' Gen I-like designs, so Green was changed accordingly to fit the theme (Remember Sugimori said he just updated the Gen I girl for the female FRLG protagonist, rather than creating a new character from scratch).
* "Leaf" trademark pose from the FRLG Trainer Card is the same as Green's challenging pose from LGPE, hair flip and all.

Cons:

* Someone asked Ken Sugimori on Twitter about her default FRLG name, and he responded "Leaf... Maybe?"
** However, 'default name' in a broader sense, 'may' not necessarily mean the same thing as the "canon name" to be used throughout the game series. The [[Blue (game)|Generation I Rival]]'s canon name is "Blue" for example, despite that not being a default name for him in [[Pokémon Blue]] or the remakes.

It's extremely unlikely anyone from The Pokémon Company or Game Freak will ever issue a formal, definite statement on such a simplistic matter. So I think the best solution would be a voting session once we compile a few more Pros and Cons. -- [[User:Yagamitaichi|Yagamitaichi]] ([[User talk:Yagamitaichi|talk]]) 15:40, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
:The figure outright calls her Leaf, which I suppose is a "con" for those who think they're one and the same. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 17:59, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
::The '''announcement'''. Why do people forget that? The figure hasn't been released yet, and could easily change upon release. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 18:52, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
:An additional pro on the deisgn front could be the wrist bands. They're black in the FrLg design and white in the LGP!E! design, but that could be because the Gen 1 design had white gloves, which makes the wrists bands an interesting fusion of the two accessories from those two previous designs. [[User:Nikkie2571|Nikkie2571]] ([[User talk:Nikkie2571|talk]]) 19:27, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

{{indent}}May I remind everyone what abcboy said in his comment: "If/when the Kotobukiya figurine gets released by TPCi in English, this decision will be reevaluated." Any sort of poll or discussion is moot. Until the figure gets '''released''' and we know what its name is (whether it'll be leaf or green), ''then'' something will be done. All this back and forth is just a pointless waste of time and effort for something that isn't going to happen until the figure gets released.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:29, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
:I don't see anything wrong with having the discussion anyways... --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 03:39, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
::Discussion about what? As far as I'm aware, the discussion of what to name this page was already resolved and ended with abcboy's comment. Any other discussion should be left to the forums.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:50, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
:::I just don't really like the idea of restricting discussion. I personally find it interesting to participate in discussions and read what others have to say. After all, that is what the talk pages are for. I don't think it would be suited towards the forums because it is about this Bulbapedia page at its core. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 04:41, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
:::@ForceFire, discussion about whether Leaf and Green are the same person, since someone decided to add a "The contents of this article have been suggested to be split into Green (game) and Leaf (game)" banner at the top of Green's page after abcboy's comment. And to be honest, my major problem with the Leaf/Green thing is why a figurine is being used for her official name, when the games should be taking precedence over supplementary materials. Back when HGSS released, it was pretty much determined that Gold would be henceforth known as Ethan, regardless of the supplementary materials, such as the game guides or instruction booklets bundled with GSC, referring to him as Gold. Similarly with Brendan, he was referred to as "Orlando" in the ORAS demo, but the name Brendan was still kept when ORAS officially released. With Selene/Elio, since neither were given names outside of internal data, which is typically inconsistent for many PCs, it was decided to use supplementary materials for the basis of both of their names. Administration more or less set a precedent that the games come first before supplementary materials, and I don't understand why this precedent isn't being followed upon with Green. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 16:19, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

I think this is not difficult to understand XD. In remake line, she was named Leaf (Gen 2 girl named Lyra in this line), and in original line, she was named Blue/Green (Gen 2 girl named Crys in this line).

She can be the same character or a different character. In some respects, the judgment of Pokemon Adventures manga is justified. Although I know that some people
don’t think so.

This page does not need to be split in my opinion. Crys/Lyra, Gold/Ethan, Elio, and Selene things already confused enough. I only want to change infobox picture to LGPE instead of continuing to use Leaf's picture.

By the way, Kotobukiya has not changed her name and continues to use it now. Leaf does exist as an official name. [[User:E9310103838|E9310103838]] ([[User talk:E9310103838|talk]]) 00:28, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
::Kris and Lyra have been confirmed to be separate characters, unlike Ethan, Elio, and Selene. Also except for the figurine, Leaf was never officially used as a name for the character. In addition, as far as I'm aware and can find, the figurine was announced as Leaf, and has yet to actually be released. Something that is announced can easily change once it's released, and also, let's not forget that the announcement came out shortly before Pikachu & Eevee, and at that point we had no confirmation that even Red or Blue were going to appear. She may've initially intended to be named "Leaf" in Pikachu & Eevee, but changed late in development, or the artist who designed the artwork for the figurine, Hitoshi Ariga, was unaware that she was going to be called Green in Pikachu & Eevee (he didn't work on Pikachu & Eevee, so this is possible), calling her Leaf, since that was the fan consensus name for her at that point. Fact of the matter, we don't know ''who'' exactly coined her Leaf, whether it was someone at Game Freak or Kotobukiya. Even so, the staff on Bulbapedia have already made precedence that the games come before any sort of supplementary material, as is the case of Ethan upon release of HGSS, and if there is nothing in the games that indicates a name, excluding internal data, as this varies for some PCs, then supplementary material should be used, as was the case with Elio and Selene. I would expect staff to be consistent on matters like this, as it reflects poorly on them, as they're backtracking on a convention they had already established. If a staff member went, "Much like Ethan in HGSS, Pikachu & Eevee establish that Leaf's official name is Green" there would probably be some people who would disagree with this, much like Ethan, but most of the people here would not be vocal about this as they are now. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 03:32, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
:::For real, somebody's going to have to ask one of the Game Freak higher-ups like Junichi Masuda if they intended for Green from Let's Go Pikachu Eevee and the player character from FRLG to be the same person. At this point, that's the only way we're going to resolve this. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 04:22, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
{{indent}}To continue to beat a dead horse, I still, after this time, think we should remove all references to the character being called "Leaf".

We know a couple of things:
* We are currently treating Green from FRLG and Green from LGPE as the same character, as we should continue to do, since we have in the past with character differences between generations with much bigger design changes and functional differences. See Elio, Selene, Blue, etc...
* Green is the name used in LGPE. There is no official name used in FRLG.
** "Leaf" was the name that Kotobukiya used prior to LGPE's release.
*** Kotobukiya figures are not the main games.
* TPCI has [[Ethan (game)|changed character names before]]. The solution was to go with the most recent name. This name change applied retroactively to games before the name change, like this article is currently NOT doing.
* In the past, Bulbapedia has prioritized information in the main games over secondary sources. Currently, this precedent is not being applied here.
* <s>Not that it matters, but this is one of the things that other Pokemon forums make fun of Bulbapedia for-- I've seen this exact debate being used as evidence of Bulbapedia's incompetency on more than one occasion.</s>

The obvious solution is to call Green by her canonical name. Besides, as I mentioned above, the article is incredibly confusing as it stands. The whole Green/Leaf debacle turned what was previously a serviceable article into kind of a jumbled mess, and one of our poorer articles, just because of a difference in name and a minor change in design. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 01:23, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

[https://www.bandai.co.jp/candy/products/2019/1000136258.html A new Leaf figure was made by Bandai], and it specifically states she is Leaf, the girl proatgonist of ''Fire Red and Leaf Green'', without mentioning Blue from ''Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee''. This is the same case as the Kotobukiya figure, [https://www.kotobukiya.co.jp/product/product-0000003255/ in the description of the final product].--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 12:58, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
:I still don't understand how any figures are relevant at all. Games always, always, always take priority and I don't see why we should ignore a long-standing precedent for a single character. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 14:28, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
::''Fire Red and Leaf Green'' actually had ''Leaf'' as internal name for her and did not give a direct name to the girl protagonist, so the figures using that name aren't against what the games state, since they specifically mention that they are representing the girl protagonist of ''Fire Red and Leaf Green''.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:16, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
:::LGPE overrides that (or at least it should, considering previous actions and precedents here on Bulbapedia). LGPE came out in 2018. FRLG came out in 2004. Remember, Gamefreak [[Ethan (game)|has changed names in the past]], and we've changed them to fit, even when referring to before the name change. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 18:35, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
::::My position has been consistent: they're two different people. The fact they have two different names is consistent with that position. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 23:06, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::Good to see that someone isn’t relying on non-canon material, i.e. figures, to support their claim. I have to ask, though: Are Ethan and Gold two separate people? After all, they had different names up until we realized that we should probably keep names consistent.

:::::Besides, the way the article is formatted, it treats Green from FRLG and Green from LGPE as the same character, as we have done with two characters who we can reasonably assume are the same based on function and appearance. Using two different names but keeping them on the same page seems just like a really shitty compromise. Why not improve the article and fix that? --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 01:45, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::I want to ask about this Gold/Ethan thing. Can someone explain to me where both names are used officially? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:47, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
::The name Ethan was first officially used during the release of HeartGold & SoulSilver. Before then, he had no official name as the Pokémon Gold instruction book called him ''Gold'' and the Pokémon Silver instruction manual referred to him as ''Silver'', but he was referred to as Gold by fans as people had taken to calling his rival Silver. In all the mangas and most other side projects, the two were referred to as Gold and Silver respectively. Outside of the manga, until Generation IV, Ethan / Gold had no official name. Silver still has no official name himself but that is a different topic. Hope this was helpful. :) ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 18:13, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
:::Yeah, thanks. Barring anything more, that means Ethan/Gold isn't comparable to Leaf/Green. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:55, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
::::For what is worth, I have the Italian Official Nintendo Player's Guide of ''Gold and Silver'', the protagonist is referred to as ''the hero'' (''L'eroe'') and the rival is referred to as ''the rival'' (''Il rivale''), so it looks like the name of the protagonist was indeed added in ''HeartGold and SoulSilver''.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 19:07, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::Alright, my bad. I guess the two pages are not comparable. My point still stands that we should remove any reference to “Leaf”— it muddles the page and I do really think we should strive for name consistency even in the lack of a precedent. I can’t think of any other page that has had this issue but my strong opinion is that for this page and for future pages we should replace older names with newer ones, even when referring to before the name change. I think I’ve made my stance and my reasoning pretty clear. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 12:16, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::Yes it is, the name "Leaf" has never been used in an official capacity by Game Freak, much like Gold. The only time "Leaf" has been used the franchise is non-canonical material, and figurines made by a different company. Even with the figurines, we don't know if Game Freak gave them the names for the characters or if they simply went with what the fans have been referring to her as over the years. Also, again, I have to ask, why the hell are '''''figurines''''' taking precedence over '''''the games''''' in the first place? Pokémon is a video game franchise, not a figurine collecting one. I get why Elio and Selene were named such after their merchandise, since it's the only names being used officially, and the placeholder names in the game data are unused since they can vary from game to game (such as Red), but why are people waiting for a figurine to be released, when the games have given her the name "Green"? [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 12:30, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::Regarding ''"why the hell are '''''figurines''''' taking precedence over '''''the games'''''"''... They are not. FRLG did not give its female PC any name. So, this figure that is specifically referring to FRLG becomes that PC's most canon name.
:::::::Regarding ''"for future pages we should replace older names with newer ones, even when referring to before the name change"''... That's not our policy. We still refer to the [[Dowsing Machine]] as the Itemfinder for the early games. We have, for both Dowsing Machine and Green, moved both pages to use the newer names, but those older names are still to be used for the games they belong to. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:06, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::::No offense, but I find that policy silly and confusing. This article is already convoluted as it is with the whole Green/Leaf debacle, this potentially sets a very dangerous precedent for future articles. Besides, “Itemfinder” was an actual name used in a game. There are no scenarios in which a player will encounter the name “Leaf” in game without setting it for themselves. And that’s not even touching upon the dubious canonicity of the name “Leaf” in general. Green’s “most canon name” IS Green, FRLG or LGPE, because that’s the only name that’s ever been used in a game to describe her. That’s like saying that Red’s name in RBY isn’t Red because he wasn’t called that until GSC.

::::::::The figurines are just as relevant to FRLG as any manuals calling Ethan “Gold” are to GSC. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 15:56, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh, and just one little note: the Dowsing Machine page doesn't say "Dowsing Machine/Itemfinder" in the infobox. Not that the two are comparable. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 21:47, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::::::As above, Ethan/Gold is not comparable to Green/Leaf here. Nor is Red. Red was established by clear story continuity in future games (and remained very consistent); Green does not have any line of story continuity back to FRLG. They are not the same. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:24, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::::As above, the manuals in Ethan/Gold are just as relevant to GSC than the figures for Green/Leaf are to FRLG. Actually, I take that back; they're MORE relevant-- the manuals are included with the games themselves, whereas the figures (in other words, not connected to the games) are made by another company. I guess you're right in that the two pages are not comparable, because this situation is somehow more nonsensical. I don't understand how figures being made by another company are pertinent at all to this discussion.

:::::::::::"Red was established by clear story continuity in future games (and remained very consistent); Green does not have any line of story continuity back to FRLG." This point makes the least sense. If, by some weird decision at Gamefreak, they decided to call Red "Ash" or "Frank" or something in SM, would we still use "Red" for pre-SM because there's "no continuity between the games"?

:::::::::::And again, unlike Red, the name "Leaf" has NEVER been used in the games, only in noncanon materials. How it is still relevant at all is beyond me. There is, however, a name that HAS been used in the games, and people keep coming up with ridiculous, half-assed loopholes to write it off. I'm sorry for being so passionate but it's incredibly frustrating to me that common sense is being thrown out the window for this. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 00:35, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::::::::You agreed above that "the two pages are not comparable". I thought perhaps you had just forgotten but now you're doubling down on trying to wave Ethan/Gold around. I'm super confused by your flip-flopping.
::::::::::::Your "Frank" hypothetical, for all you may mean it to be absurd, has already been answered. Just as we use ItemFinder for the games ''that'' was used in, if GameFreak established a discontinuity and appeared to change "Red"'s name, we'd keep using Red for the games ''that'' was used in. Just as we still use {{m|Faint Attack}} and [[List of modified moves#Name changes|others]]. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:09, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
{{indent}}When I say “I guess you’re right in that the two pages are not comparable”, I was mostly using that for comedic effect, as indicated by the following words. I do think they are similar scenarios but the fact that people are still insisting on using “Green” I think is far more ridiculous, hence the comedic “not comparable.” Sorry for the confusion. Maybe I’m just not good at sarcasm. I’ll try to mark it clearly in the future.

I’ve already explained my counterpoint to that last part. Player character names are, by design, not set in stone. There will never be a player who encounters the name “Leaf” in normal gameplay without explicitly setting it for themselves. In contrast, a player would see the words Itemfinder and Faint Attack in game. I’ve explained this before and I shouldn’t need to again. The same logic can not be applied. I admit that I should not have picked Red for my example, as Red has appeared in a game before. Let’s try a different example— if Nate appeared in a future game with a different name, would we change prior names to fit? I’d hope so, personally.

Again... why is a figure relevant at all in the face of an official name? Perhaps if it were a manual it would be different. /s

By the way, I think I’m allowed to change my opinion on something, or “flip-flop” if you will, if someone brings up a point I didn’t think of, as Sinjoh has. But by now I’m pretty set that yeah, the scenarios on Ethan and Green are pretty damn comparable. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 02:28, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
:I'm going to pause for a moment after only understanding your first line, because I can only suppose that your fervor has made you completely forget something from under a day ago. I'll leave this (the thing I was referring to and the reason for me being "super confused") here and I'd like to know what your response is when we're hopefully both clear. [[Special:Diff/2996403]]
:[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:53, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
::I have now slept and my position is still exactly the same. Please reread my last line.

::I thought they were similar initially, then Frozen Fennec pointed out something that I didn’t realize, so I changed my mind, then Sinjoh pointed out something I didn’t realize, so I changed my mind. I’m allowed to do that if somebody brings up a point that didn’t occur to me. Besides, it barely affected the content of my argument— my position was still the same. I fail to see why it was worth bringing up in the first place, let alone twice. I think my response was pretty clear about it the first time.

::Now can we stop using ad hominems against my wishywashiness or anything else to tiptoe around the actual issue? --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 13:16, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
:::I'm not attacking you for changing your mind. I'm only saying exactly what I said...you incredibly confused me because you didn't acknowledge changing your position or give any reasons. You just looked inconsistent. (That said, I can't tell what you took from Frozen Fennec since they haven't commented since the response I linked from you.)
:::Perhaps I can approach this Ethan and Green thing a little differently. My position is, the FRLG female PC has an official name and so does the LGPE female PC...while the GSC male PC has no official name and the HGSS male PC does. I.e., FRLG/LGPE and GSC/HGSS are not the same. When you say that FRLG/LGPE (Leaf/Green) and GSC/HGSS (Gold/Ethan) are the same, I hear that you think the GSC male PC's official name was Gold...is that correct? (At the risk of saying more than necessary, please answer that last question first and foremost. My position is very secondary, I'm trying to understand yours at the moment.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:42, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
::::Wow, the section has gotten much longer since I last responded. I do want to try adding in some more thoughts to the matter. Sinjoh noted that "Leaf" had never been used or acknowledged as a name but Sugimori teased on Twitter back in 2011 that it is ''maybe'' her official name despite the only other notable things giving her a name were the manga and even then, those were inconsistent as you had two characters based on her named Green and later, Blue. Green, Red, Fire, and Leaf were also all possible default names for her as well in Generation III. I imagine Sugimori stating it was ''maybe'' her name at the time did not help either. I think the ONLY thing that could really be seen as similar at the time is that Leaf / Green and Gold / Ethan both had manga counterparts and was most likely where a lot of people started to pick up calling those two ''Leaf'' and ''Gold'' respectively. Leaf can also be stated to be used ''in-game'' to some capacity if you count that Leaf is the default name given to her in the internal data of the game as has been stated numerous times earlier in the game. I imagine I am probably adding some confusion to this article's talk page and I do apoligize for that.

::::As for a page split which I cannot seem to find any discussion of, I would be ok leaving it as one page for now. If anything, roughly 90% of this page over the past 10 or so years has been nothing but a discussion over whether or not she should be called Leaf or Green. I would modify the header at the top of the page to note that Green / Leaf is called ''Leaf'' by default in the game's internal data to lessen confusion and possibly prevent creating a far longer discussion over her actual name in the long run. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 14:45, 9 July 2019 (UTC
:::::Tiddlywinks, thanks for clarifying. I don’t think that GSC Ethan’s official name is Gold and I definitely don’t think that page should be changed. I’m just extremely confused on how the Pokémon Gold manual isn’t relevant (which I agree with) and a figure is. If we’re applying a line of logic to Ethan we should apply the same logic to Green. I keep bringing up Gold because i think it’s a very good comparison to highlight the disparity of policies used, not to show my own opinions.

:::::To answer your position as concisely as I can: I think that GSC Ethan being called Gold is as official as FRLG Green being called Leaf. Being not much. That’s my stance. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 16:43, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::Then there's the other thing. We're not ignoring the manuals. But going off the details FrozenFennec gave, they gave him different names. If he was Gold (or Joe or whatever) in both, then yeah, we could take that as his name. But since that doesn't seem to be the case...well, we can't prefer one manual and just brush the other aside either. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:23, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::I feel like this is getting into more of a difference of opinions on policies, which I don't really want to get into. I believe that if he was given a different but consistent name in the manuals, then we should still call him Ethan in GSC contexts. One character, one name. But if you really wanted to go that route, then the solution consistent to the Green page would be to use Gold{{sup/2|G}}/Silver{{sup/2|S}} in GSC contexts. (Which, for clarity, is absolutely not what I'm suggesting we do.)

:::::::I still feel like figures are not a reliable source to use for names in the face of an existing name in the games, regardless of which games each name replies to. Merch made by other companies, IMO, is scraping the bottom of the barrel for information, and should really only done if there's a lack of official name, like for Elio and Selene.

:::::::Speaking of Elio and Selene, don't those names only apply to Sun and Moon too, as per the statement for the Kotobukiya figure, and not USUM? Why do we refer to them as Elio and Selene for USUM contexts, but we don't refer to Green as...well, Green for FRLG contexts?

:::::::It seems to me that there are just so many loopholes required to justify not just calling the female player from FRLG by the canon name that they've given her. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 22:55, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::::Fact: we're not going to use a name from later for anything that has an official name in a previous generation. This is very simple. These things MUST be immediately recognizable to anyone playing those games. If a game calls a character Alice but in a remake 5 years later she was called Eve, if someone's playing the first game and they're trying to figure something out here, referring to Eve will just make them wonder, "Who the hell is Eve? This seems like where I am but I don't know her so when is this, then? And why isn't there anything about Alice?" That's not OK.
::::::::(If you want to explain something and then say you don't want that...then I think I'm just going to forego any comment on it. Separately: if you have an issue with Elio and Selene specifically, I suggest taking that to a different talk page.)
::::::::The lack of an official name in the '''specific''' context of FRLG makes the figure merch just as acceptable as for Elio and Selene. While you may think that this cannot hold a candle to a name in a remake later...the short version is that we simply do not agree with you. I have tried explaining the logic; you're denigrating the values. There's not really a lot of persuasion to exercise there. (If you want to seriously accept our values and explain how you think that we should do X for some page if we really want Green's page like this (and if we don't want that then we need to fix Green), we can explore that. But I think you've said it: there is a part of this about opinions that will simply bear no fruit.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:34, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::I've been reluctant to take part in this discussion, but I think right now may be a good moment to add something. If I understood corectly, the lack of an in-game name and therefore usage of a merch name for Green/Leaf in FRLG is comparable to the situation of Elio and Selene in SM and USUM. Also, it appears to me that the names Elio and Selene were given in the context of Sun and Moon specifically and later extended to USUM. So, hypothetically, let's say that both Elio and Selene appeared in USUM as NPCs and were given different names in those games (say, Rick and Cindy). In this situation, how would we deal with the names of those characters? Would Rick and Cindy be used widely, since they had no in-game names before that (and considering that they are the same characters as in Sun and Moon), or would we still call them Elio and Selene when referring to Sun and Moon?
:::::::::I'd like you people to try to picture this situation I described unbiased, so maybe we can extend whatever answer it receives to Green/Leaf as well. And if my logic has any flaws, please point them out, but still try to picure that scenario. [[User:Suic12-|Suic]] ([[User talk:Suic12-|talk]]) 02:10, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::::::To Suic: I would hope that Bulbapedia would only use Rick and Cindy, even when referring to Sun and Moon contexts. They'd never appeared as NPCs before, only as characters named by the player, and the names were essentially made "official" by the Kotobukiya figures. Which I believe is only valid here because there is an absense of anything better.

::::::::::To Tiddlywinks:

::::::::::Calling Kotobukiya calling her "Leaf" "official" is incredibly shaky. And I doubt the average user or FRLG player is going to see the name "Green" and think "well, who the hell is that?" anymore than they would with the name "Leaf". By trying to be "immediately recognizable" we are making this article more confusing, ironically.

::::::::::I don't have an issue with Elio or Selene's pages. I have an issue with the fact that those pages are following one line of logic and this one isn't. I guess my examples are going over your head. If they're legitimately confusing to you, then I'll also "forego any comment on it".

::::::::::If this is the policy for the future, that figures trump games as long as it's not the EXACT SAME game, then I will say that I strongly disagree, and that it goes against established Bulbapedia values, and is only going to lead to further confusion, but ultimately, since an average Bulbapedia user like myself has practically zero say over anything that happens, I'm not gonna continue to push to improve this article after now. In my experience, Bulbapedia, specifically the moderator team, has always been weird about things that should be common sense but this is definitely the worst of it-- we've made so many loopholes that we've tangled and knotted our reasoning. I'll say it as concisely as I can-- this policy and, as a result, this page, is ridiculous and shitty.

::::::::::I do realize that my opinions "don't bear fruit", like you said, and I think that that's the most saddening part about this whole scenario. The fact that there's a policy that I feel is unfair and dangerous, and I have nothing that I, as a non-moderator, can do about it.

::::::::::I have nothing more to say on the matter. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 02:24, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::::You're mixing issues when you propose that people wouldn't be confused by "Green" in the context of FRLG. You may think it's confusing but it's following strict policy (that I've explained more than once above) which we will not change. This may be an extreme case of that policy, but that itself is not enough reason to modify the policy or invalidate the name.
:::::::::::Regarding Elio/Selene, let me put it this way (again). If you want to explore how Leaf/Green means we should do something else with Elio/Selene, we can talk. Right now, all I hear is, "This is a problem for Elio/Selene--and you should be able to understand that--so you should invalidate Leaf/Green." Again: give details about what Leaf/Green should mean for other things. (As far as I'm concerned, this wouldn't need to be accompanied by "...So that means Leaf/Green sucks!" But I won't try to force that right now.)
:::::::::::Regarding the "Rick/Cindy" hypothetical... I think *I* would suggest handling it like Leaf/Green. (But...if you're trying to create a new situation, you should know that not everything in the real world has a ready answer. The final answer comes when it's needed.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:16, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
{{indent}}What I was trying to do was to make sure we would have a consistent way to handle a situation of this kind. Of course I know there is not a ready answer, but still sometimes it's important to stop and think about how we are handling things.

Without placing my opinion, right now I guess what we have is something like "a character's name is only valid for the game(s) in which the name appears, and a different source should be used for the name in the game(s) in which said character is not named".

Now, let me point out I'm not saying that what I just wrote should be final. Instead, I think we should elaborate that statement (thinking of all implications, but without creating unnecessary exceptions) so we can use it as a standard for all situations.

So, Tiddlywinks, can we try to elaborate a statement like that as a guideline? It would simplify a lot the situation and avoid most debates about whether or not the rules or policies are being followed for one or another character. Of course I also understand that something like this would probably also need to be aproved by the rest of the staff. [[User:Suic12-|Suic]] ([[User talk:Suic12-|talk]]) 13:49, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
:I feel like a policy like that is fine but I still strongly think that using figures as a source is dubious if there’s other things to go off of. We have no idea the level of communication that Kotobukiya has with Gamefreak. If “Leaf” ever appears in a game to describe her then sure. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 16:25, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
::I hate to continue to add on but this has been on my mind for the past couple of days... If Kotobukiya or Bandai or whoever were to release figures that said "Fire, the male player character from FRLG" or "Terry, the rival from FRLG," would we change those names on those pages for those games? --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 22:03, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
:::Your specific mention of "Fire" is interesting because, in addition to being the obvious game-name counterpart to "Leaf", it was a common Japanese fan name for remake Red. If a figure were to actually use "Fire" for remake Red, it would ''completely destroy'' my argument. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 08:38, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
::::Needless to say, the Bandai figures [https://www.bandai.co.jp/candy/products/2019/45496604549660000.html use ''Red'' as name of Red] and [https://www.bandai.co.jp/candy/products/2019/1000136260.html ''Green'' as name of Green] (Blue in the West). Incidentally, both the Green and Prof. Oak's figures reconfirm that these Bandai figures are themed after ''Pokémon Fire Red and Leaf Green'', again limiting the scope of what they are portraying. After all, this kind of licensed material needs approval from the owners of the Pokémon IP (typically, [[The Pokémon Company]]), it can be expected that they perform some checks on relevant details of IP such as name, basic bio and appearance. It's an official figure, not a fan-made one. In any case, the name ''Leaf'' being used in internal data to refer to the female protagonist of ''Fire Red and Leaf Green'' means that Game Freak named her ''Leaf'' internally, it has never been just a fan name or an arbitrary name to begin with.

::::Furthermore, we still don't know the full details of the connection between Green and Leaf. Considering how ''Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee'' are explicitly a remake of ''Yellow'', they are not forced to connect with ''Fire Red and Leaf Green'', not to say that they feature an alternate timeline, where especially Red has a different role. The design of Green is not just influenced by that of Leaf, she also resembles the female character on the cover of the Nintendo Official Guidebook of ''Red, Green and Blue''. Regarding the latter character, Sugimori said that [https://twitter.com/super_32x/status/269847118754217986 he was a little conscious of her when designing the female protagonist of ''Fire Red and Leaf Green''], which again points out how the relationship between Green from ''Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee'' and Leaf from ''Fire Red and Leaf Green'' might be more complex than we think.

::::In any case, the descriptions of both the figures of Leaf explicitly mention how the character portrayed is the female protagonist of ''Fire Red and Leaf Green'', Blue/Green from ''Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee'' is never called into question, therefore these figures strictly aren't against the games they are explicitly referring to.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 22:39, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::(I was hoping nobody would actually use this point, but alas.) Internal data is practically completely irrelevant. They use all sorts of random names for internal data, such as the aforementioned Terry, as well as Kai and Lana for Elio and Selene respectively, or Ninten for Red in RBY... I could go on.

:::::I’m aware that Red and Blue both have figures already. But that didn’t answer my question. If for whatever reason they called them Fire and Terry, using the same phrasing that they do for Green from FRLG, would we use those names for FRLG only? No, obviously. It defies common sense to let figures control Pokémon canon so strongly. But that’s what we’re doing here.

:::::If anyone legitimately believes that if Kotobukiya called Red “Fire” for FRLG, then we should change it there, then I really don’t know what to say. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 03:18, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::Red has a consistent name that since Gen II, Blue has a consistent name since Gen II. If a figure gave them different names, then we're going to ignore it because that is not the names they consistently had before. Leaf never had a consistent name until to Kotobukiya figure. Kotobuyika has consistently been calling the FRLG design of the character Leaf, hence why "we're holding the figure so highly".
::::::The name Green has only been used for the LGPE design of the character, not the FRLG one. And whether they are the same character is another thing. There is nothing saying that they are the same. Their clothes sharing similar colors is not proof, that could be chalked up as a reference. I don't follow the manga, so I'm not too sure about that, but the character existed before the FRLG design did.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:25, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::Wow, this is the biggest loophole we’ve seen so far.... so you’re saying that we should apply different logic to Red than to Green just because Green hadn’t shown up until later? So much for the strict policies that Tiddlywinks was advocating for and using to defend their argument.

:::::::I am absolutely dumbfounded that we’re still deliberating over whether they’re the same character or not. It’s common sense. Extremely similar outfit, similar function in game (it only makes sense that the female player character from FRLG would appear alongside the male player character from FRLG as NPCS). Honestly, I’m amazed (and pleasantly surprised) that nobody has legitimately suggested that Elio from SM and USUM are different characters, or really any pair of the same character with much more drastic design differences than the flipping of two colors and the omission of a hat. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 12:18, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::::Red and Green don't have different logic. If a character has no name in a game, and has not had a name in a previous game, we may accept a name that pops up.
::::::::There's just no breating room to change Red's name because it has a very long history that doesn't have an "opening" like Green did (not to mention being so consistent). Green only received a name for LGPE, so FRLG was still iffy...and a figure popped up to fill that in.
::::::::We're not changing names willy-nilly like you fear. If you want to worry about anyone, Ethan is probably the only other PC who has a similar hole as Green.
::::::::And I can't speak for ForceFire, but the decision as staff has been that Leaf/Green are the same character, which is why they're on the same page. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:50, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::Why did the staff make this decision? Do {{tt|they|Using 'they' instead of 'you' to avoid ambiguity between singular/plural 'you'}} have evidence that Leaf/Green are confirmed the same that us non-staff have overlooked? [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 09:28, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
{{indent}}While I agree that they are the same character, since the article was renamed Green I think the article should consistently call her Green. The reference to her old name Leaf should go to the Trivia section. {{ga|Ethan}}'s page consistently called him Ethan and didn't switch to Gold for Generation 2 contexts. So a figure called her Leaf. After a TFG figure called {{ga|Brendan}} "Landon," should we have figures as reliable sources to canon names? Especially a Japan-exclusive figure that doesn't release until September? As I recall, [[Gold (game)]] was only moved to [[Ethan (game)]] on the North American release date of HeartGold and SoulSilver. His page was never Hibiki (game) when the Japanese version was out. And if it turns out we have to split Leaf from Green, it's only a matter of using a Find/Replace function. But anyway, the thing that should settle this debate once and for all is Green's appearance in [[Pokémon Masters]] using her FireRed/LeafGreen design. We don't have confirmation yet, so we could wait. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 04:03, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
:''Masters'' is already likely to name [[Silver (game)|two]] [[Kris (game)|characters]] and has reconfirmed [[Barry (game)|a third]], so it wouldn't be unthinkable for it to resolve this debate as well. (Red and Blue have their designs taken from HGSS, so the same would apply to Leaf/Green as well.) [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 07:28, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
::So what did Masters call her? [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 02:00, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
:::Five months? Talk about cutting it close on this bump. The article calls her Leaf in the context of Pokémon Masters, so maybe Pokémon Masters calls her Leaf? Or is it just like how we've been calling her Leaf for years and Masters didn't name her? I'd like to know how Vmario97 got that sprite. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 03:04, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
::::I believe "Leaf" has only appeared in a cutscene in Masters so far, and was not named in it. --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] ([[User talk:Neumannz|talk]]) 13:54, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::I second that. I watched a few videos of Pokémon Masters chapter 21 (the one where she appears), in both English and Japanese. As of yet, I've only found that cutscene where "Leaf" appears and she is not named. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 14:19, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
::::::Welp. Is there any possibility we could get a name by looking at Masters' internal game files? [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 15:01, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::::And if we don't get a name, could we make the article more consistent about calling her Green? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 05:23, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

== Article Layout ==
I move to begin the article with a section on the unused Generation I character before segueing into information about Green and Leaf. Any objections? [[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 08:07, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
:I'd be fine with that. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 13:05, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
::This page is kind of a mess and I want to try and make it more organized, clean it up a little. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 10:18, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
:::It's already in the trivia section. And the prototype character is '''not''' Green, Green is inspired by that prototype, but that does not mean the prototype is Green herself.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:27, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
::::I think we should move it up from the trivia section to the front of the page. It's pretty pertinent. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 10:37, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
::::While ForceFire noted they are not the same, I feel it is fine being left in the trivia. It is A)Not the same character, B)a character which inspired Green's design. Most other pages with notable beta content related to them are just stuck into trivia as they are not something you would see during normal gameplay at all. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 15:43, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
:::::May I ask how they are not all the same? (that is, how they are not all versions of the same character in different alternative universes (as each game sort of exists in its own alternative universe)) [[User:CherubAgent1440|CherubAgent1440]] ([[User talk:CherubAgent1440|talk]]) 13:46, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Leaf (game)

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SeanWheeler: /* To be or not to be that's the question. (Or why is that even a question in the first place?) */

==Leaf==
So who made up that name? --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 17:22, 2 February 2006 (CST)

:I want to know that too. Following the trend that the 1st and 2nd gen games set, her name should be Green, or Blue in the Japanese version. I'm guessing someone just chose one of the optional names from FRLG and gave it to her when they made the article. There's no real basis for her name being "Leaf", so shouldn't we go by precedence, as was done with Gold, Silver and Kris, and just call her Green?. -Shaddow Boy

::For an English Language Version, Green is accurate, however [[Green (game)]] already directs to Blue, does it not?--[[User:PikamasterADV|PikamasterADV]] 00:50, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

:Internal game data. There is a trainer, presumably used for debugging, with the sprite of the male player, and another trainer with the sprite of the female player. The male one is named Red, but the female is named Leaf for some strange reason. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 09:38, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
::English version or Japanese? --WikidSmaht 08:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Both. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:53, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
::::This isn't really a good habit to get into. If we start taking unused data as official canon, then Professor Oak started with Squirtle, the Safari Zone had no Pokemon in it 3 years after Red and Blue, and that the Lake of Rage is still a town. It just doesn't make sense. Fire Red and Leaf Green have officially fixed Green's (male rival's), name to that of the original, leaving lone Blue, the third version gal, without a truly official name. While logic would suggest we should call her Blue due to the Manga as well as Blue being the color generation's third game, we are stuck basing her name on what can only be called speculation. Unused Data =/= Fact. [[User:Fishman|Fishman]] 15:43, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::Er, no. When it comes to the games' canon, internal game data > manga name. Otherwise we should be calling Brendan "Ruby" and May "Sapphire".
:::::And no offense, but your analogies are the ones that don't make sense to me. The prototypical Safari Zone in GSC doens't have wild Pokémon because the wild encounters data was never written, not because it was originally meant to not have Pokémon. And the finished versions of the games retconned Profesor Oak into not being a fight-able trainer, and the Lake of Rage into being just a lake are, not a town. But neither the finished games not Nintendo officially revealed a name for the FR/LG female protagonist, so if her name during the development stages was Leaf (which in-game data seems to prove it was), then it should still be, since there isn't evidence to make us believe that it was retconned into another name. [[User:Spideym|Spideym]] 00:03, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Well we can't call her Blue, because [[Blue (game)]] is the rival. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 01:13, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
:If only GSDS would become reality, we'd know for sure, since then we'd have to find out what happened to her as well as Red. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:33, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
::We don't need another sequel. Besides her name, the answers are right here in front of us. The [[Blue (game)]] has officially been renamed as Green. All we have to do with the old article is point out that his English name used to be Blue, and was later changed back into Green. [[User:Fishman|Fishman]] 01:45, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
:::No, it has not been officially renamed. The rival's first default name for the Red version does not qualify as the character's official name. For all we know, his name could still be "Blue," just because it's not a default name doesn't mean it's been officially changed. Taking evidence from all the games supports that the rival is Blue and the girl is unnamed (leaving us with Green), but the idea that Blue has become Green is just fan speculation. I also agree that we can't go taking in-game data as official, and believe the name of the girl should be Green until Nintendo proves otherwise.--[[User:Mezase Master|Mezase Master]]
::::No to you, Mezase Master. First of all, you'll give the reason to most of us when we claim that Blue, this is, Japanese Green, is now Green outside of Japan as well since FRLG. Why do I say this? Because of HGSS and in-game data. And if internal game data says that her name is Leaf in both Japanese and English versions, then we have to assume it is as such. It's like you're claiming that Nintendo, specially the American and European divisions, don't screw up on the manuals and stuff. Even if such material is official, it doesn't mean it's correct and in-game data is the superior form of canon in the Pokémon franchise, so I say you're wrong. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 11:56, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::BTW, I e-mailed Nintendo of America back in late 2008 and asked them what was the official name of the female player character in FRLG. They told me that there isn't any and that players can name characters as they pretend (we all know that happens in every game except the rival in RSE), so we only have in-game data left. And if in-game data says that the name is Leaf, it's because it is. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 12:23, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Her name can't be "Green" because is the rival's name in the games already [[User:Haruka uzumaki|Haruka uzumaki]] 16:06, 24 September 2007
: Her name isn't "Green". It's "Blue". [[User:Fishman|Fishman]] 15:55, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

==Manga==
Okay, that manga information should definitely be in a separate article. But what series is it referring to? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 05:21, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

== RBG picture ==

So, supposedly she's based off of a picture from an old guidebook. Does anybody have an copy of this picture? I'm curious to see it. {{unsigned|Morgil27}}

== Blue artwork? ==

I found an image that appears to be the artwork described in the article. Is this it? [http://www.sailorteam.com/fakecard/starters/rgb.jpg]

It doesn't show her face, unfortunately. [[User:GigaMetroid99|GigaMetroid99]] 02:43, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:We're not sure it's her but she does resemble Blue (Green in the U.S)--[[Santa Claus|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチュウ!''']] 02:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::I was just wondering if that was the picture that the article described with:

''Leaf was supposed to be in the original Red and Green versions, due to the fact that on Nintendo's Official guidebook, it depicted a female trainer with long brown hair, a black dress, white gloves and short black boots, alongside the male protagonist and the rival. It is believed she was supposed to be in the game, but was left out for some reason.''

If that's the right image, it should be added to the article to show viewers how she would have looked.[[User:GigaMetroid99|GigaMetroid99]] 01:41, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:: I'm confused I thought the picture already was in the article.... I made a copy of it from somewhere...--[[User:Marhawkman|Marhawkman]] 02:10, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
::: Oh yeah, I remember reading in one of the articles something about how there are bits of code in red and green that treat the gender of the player character as a variable. wouldn't this be additional confirmation?--[[User:Marhawkman|Marhawkman]] 15:09, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

== Her back sprite ==

It may be me but her back sprite,and Red's,makes it look like she has brown eyes,despite what the trainer card shows. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 02:48, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

== Rival = Blue? or Green? HGSS ==

Well, being that the rival's name also complicates things, as TTEchidna said, if the Viridian City gym leader in Pokemon HeartGold & SoulSilver is Leader (or Gym Leader) Blue, then it's back to the drawing board, but if he's Leader (or Gym Leader) Green, the name of the female player character of FireRed & LeafGreen may very well be Blue then. {{unsigned|Team Snagem Jarrod}}
:Her name will be Leaf regardless. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:25, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Wouldn't the situation change if she appears in HG/SS under a different name? [[User:Tsum|Tsum]] 04:44, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
:It might but I think if the English translation calls the Viridian Leader "Green" to go with FireRed and Leaf''Green'', and has Red still in Mt. Silver, then this girl being Blue would confuse people due to Green being Blue in Gen II because before it was Red and ''Blue''. Leaf fits her best of all, unless they were to go a completely odd route and go with actual given names, in which case I'd bet that Red would be Satoshi in Japan and Ash here, Green is Shigeru/Gary, and Leafy-poo is Ashley. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:54, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

== The only one not to appear in the anime? ==

Wouldn't Soul count? Also,what about Mark,Mint,Wes,Michael,Lucy,Kate, and Lunick? Or do it just refer to the main games. Even so,what about Soul? Or is it still up for grabs that she is just a redesign of Kris,and not a seperate character? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 03:39, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
:Soul's game hasn't even been released. Of course she hasn't appeared in the anime yet. If she appears, she will probably show up during the 13th or 14th seasons, late 12th at the earliest, assuming they return to Johto after the Sinnoh League and the Sinnoh GF. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 04:36, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

== Apperence in HGSS? ==

If she's not, so should that be mentioned if she is not? Just saying b/c of the games comming out today.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:43, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:It doesn't appear so. Just Red. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:52, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
::Alright was that added to article?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:54, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Has anyone finished the game with {{ga|Kotone}} to confirm? All the places I've seen were finishing with {{ga|Gold|Hibiki}}. Maybe Leaf takes place of {{ga|Red}} when you play with Kotone. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 03:39, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Well many have confirmed her not to be in HGSS, should I undo the trivia just in case? She might be in beta?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 03:41, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::I think it is too early to say it, it's better to undo it until someone who has finished with {{ga|Kotone}} to confirm. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 03:43, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::Alright, I'll do unless you already did.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 03:46, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS (again) ==

Is it ''really'' confirmed that she is not in HGSS? Has ''anyone'' finished the game with <s>Soul</s> {{ga|Kotone}} to see if she is not in the place of Red? If not, the right thing to do is to remove this trivia. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 03:47, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:Okay, anyone answered, and people keep insisting on putting that freaking piece of trivia. It would be excellent if someone say ''where'' it is confirmed. I'm really sorry for bothering, but I just want to know if.someone.has.finished.with.kotone.and.proved.it. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 21:06, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::Could you please stop asking already? I'm sure they are working on it. Be patient. I would do it myself but my rom always messes up by the time I reach Violet City. I have to wait a few weeks until I get the real game. We are not saying that she's in the game and we are not saying that she isn't. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:15, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:::People have ripped all of the trainer sprites (including the event-only Giovanni... at least, I believe he's event-only) from the game. Leaf is not included in them. I don't have the game or ROM to go through the game with Kotone just to double-check, though... [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♪]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:17, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I know it, it will take time, but ''I'' am also working on it. But people are insisting to put that trivia ''"[...] she does not appear in the games."'', and we do not have clear confirmation yet. I'll hide it, okay? Sorry again for bothering. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 21:20, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Leave it hidden. Although, Tina's comment gives great weight to Red staying there. Not to mention that there are a billion and one Red references. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:26, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::Made it to Pallet. The mailbox says "Red's house". So yeah. I don't think she's here. However, there is a slim possiblity of her name being changed to Red in this game. But I highly doubt it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:11, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Actually, I think it's already been proven that Leaf isn't in HG/SS from what I know after watching the HG video with Kotone in it. I think it might be possible that the designers may have planned her to be in HG/SS. I don't know about you guys but do you think she could be in beta?{{unsigned|LeafGreen}}
::::::::Yeah, I actually {{tt|[http://community.livejournal.com/pokemon/3055811.html found her hidden in the game]|I'm totally trollin', guys.}}. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 05:32, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Well today, I made it to the top of Mt Silver as Kotone. Guess who was there? Give you a hint, it wasn't Leaf :D --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 07:50, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

== Absence in other canons? ==

From what I've seen, she only appears in Special, as Blue, and in Firered/Leafgreen. Not in the anime, not in any other manga, not in any cards, not any figurines, etc.. I've only ever seen two official arts for her, the regular one and one with her and a Combusken. Does she appear in any other media? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 21:00, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
:Can you provide a shot of the one with the Combusken? Or a link?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 01:35, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
:: [http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee357/Pichu_Chu/6588.jpg This]. I think that's from the Game Freak website, they have had tons of official art there. Well, she did appear in that "Pocket Monsters" manga, so that counts..But, only two manga counterparts, and her one game appearence? She still seems pretty absent. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 00:45, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
She appears in Pokemon Colosseum too or is that just a cameo or beta thing because Red, May, and Brendon have are there [[User:Pika Blue|Pika Blue]] 7:29, 3 November 2009
:Does she appear in a playable way, or is it just a background thing?--[[User:Champion Victoria|Champion Victoria]] 11:46, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
That i really don't know all i know is that her image is there somewhere i haven't played the game myself i think its part of some marketing ploy at the time to get people to buy LeafGreen and FireRed along with Sapphire, Ruby, and Emerald.Because like I said before May, Red, and Brendon are there too. [[User:Pika Blue|Pika Blue]] 12:20, 22 December 2009

== Can I add this? ==

That leaf's clothes are opposites to Red's. As in Red's pants are the same color as her shirt and her red's shirt is the same color as her skirt. Same as for his and hers hats. Basically its showing they are counterparts.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:14, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
::It seems notable enough to add, no other characters share that yet. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 05:30, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Alright then, lets see what happens.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 01:04, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
::::Seems like a ridiculously convoluted way of saying it. Considering that all of the other game characters who are male/female counterparts wear similar clothes... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:27, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

== Is this Leaf? ==

Where did this [http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee357/Pichu_Chu/botunennga.jpg image] come from? It seems to have something to do with this [http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee357/Pichu_Chu/6588.jpg one]. Those are the only two non-main official Leaf artwork I know of, they're all by Sugimori too. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 20:05, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
:Wow neat find, I'm not sure, it looks like leaf, umm is it just random artwork or like the TCG?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:06, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
::The first one I think doesn't have enough color to distinguish much--take off the brim of the hat and it would probably more resemble Dawn. The second one, however, as far as I can tell, is definitely based off this design (nevermind the fact that she's near a Pokémon heavily associated with May). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 04:28, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

== Blue eyes? ==

Doesn't Red's sprite show him with blue eyes too? Plus, her pre-game sprite shows her with brown eyes, doesn't it? Her back sprite seems to show her with brown eyes too. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 01:03, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

== Title ==

Could someone upload Leaf's Title sprite from FRLG? Red has his, but Leaf doesn't. --[[User:ShinyPikachu/Petition|Never Give Up]] [[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 13:03, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS ==

The article says her name was in the games. Does that mean she was supposed to be in it, or is her name just there for another reason? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 22:38, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
:You mean about the name "Leaf" is alternates for Dawn and Kotone? That just means they just share name. Or where soy talking about something out. Or do you mean about the dummied-out character? That was for FRLG.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 22:41, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
::It should say FRLG then, because in that context it makes it sound like they're talking about HGSS. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 18:45, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
:"Leaf's name was found in HeartGold and SoulSilver's data as a dummied-out opponent Trainer, alongside Red (whose name is Red as it was before)." Seems like they're talking about HGSS. Is this information correct anyway? >_> -- [[User:Zedd|Zedd]] 14:16, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
::It IS true. But that's in FRLG, not HGSS. That's where her name comes from also. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:50, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

== Credits sprite ==

It's a little bit botched. Can someone make a new animation?—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 23:11, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==
Both, Leaf and Red artoworks are holding pokeball and VS-seeker. This could be nice trivia? - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Banetoid}} ([[User talk:Banetoid|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Banetoid|contribs]]) ''

:No. There's nothing trivia worthy about that. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 06:10, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

==Cameo ==
First, sorry for my english
I haven`t played this game but I know that Drill Dozer was made by Gamefreak and I found this
http://www.spriters-resource.com/gameboy_advance/drilldozer/sheet/19334
I looks like one of Jill costumes is the same as Leaf.
This could be a trivia. {{unsigned|Virus bass}}
:Neat find. I think so.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 21:31, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

== Is this looking too much into it? ==

Leaf and Kris are the first female players of their regions and are not reused again?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:27, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:04, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

== Why Leaf and not Green? ==

Okay, honestly, this makes no sense. I understand that you're taking the internal data as evidence, but internal data shouldn't always be taken as canon. If we named every character based on the internal data, then Blue would be called Terry, and Barry would be called Cedric, among others. Their internal files are called that for whatever reason, but that doesn't mean that it should be their official name. I understand that your reasoning for using the internal data to support the name "Leaf" is because she's never officially named in game, unlike Red, Blue, Ethan, Lyra, Brendan, May, Lucas, Dawn, etc., but there [i]is[/i] evidence outside of game canon that supports the name "Green". Yes, most of the time you shouldn't take media outside of game canon as evidence, but that's exactly what you did when you decided to name the DPPt Rival "Barry", isn't it? And why did you do that? Because it was the most logical choice. The name "Barry" is present in the games as one of the preset names, and it's also supported in other media, media which also uses the canon name of Dawn, so it can be assumed that the name they're using for Barry is the intended canon name for him. Leaf's situation is no different. She's already been named "Green" in the manga (that is, in the English version, since the names of Blue and Green are swapped in Japan, but since this is an English wiki we use the English names), and it fits the Red/Blue/Green naming pattern, so why should we completely ignore those facts and instead go with "Leaf"?! It's just not logical. Whatever the verdict is, she'll always be Green to me, and she should be to everyone else, too. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 08:10, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:She's Leaf. Period and end of story. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:27, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::Why? Because you say so? Did you even read everything I wrote? You guys did this with Barry, so what's stopping you from doing it with Leaf/Green? —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 15:27, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::This has been discussed before, and there was a perfectly good reason for naming her Leaf. It probably says it in official guidebooks or something. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 18:55, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::I'm aware that it has been discussed before, but to my knowledge, the only solid evidence to support the name "Leaf" is from internal data. And like I said in my first post, there are so many things wrong with taking the internal data as an official name, especially when there's a much more logical name. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 19:33, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::This is like saying Brendan should be named Ruby. Leaf is what she's known as, that's the end of it. Nothing is stopping ''you'' from calling her Green, but that doesn't make it her real name. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 19:51, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::No, it's not at all like calling Brendan Ruby. Brendan has been officially named in the games, Leaf/Green hasn't. Since we don't have an official name to go by in the games, we should name her based on logic and evidence in other media. Green makes the most sense, and it's backed up by the manga. Leaf doesn't make sense at all. We know that she was planned to be in the Generation I games but never made the cut, so why would we call her Leaf, when the Fire/Leaf thing didn't come until Generation III? And Red isn't called Fire, is he? No, he's called Red, just like Blue is called Blue, and just like how "Leaf" should be called Green. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 20:09, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::Red isn't called Fire because he's been named in GSCHGSS. Leaf and the Green from Adventures are different characters, just like Red and Ash are. One's name should not affect the other. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 20:13, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::That's a different situation, though. And although Leaf/Green from FireRed/LeafGreen is a different character from the Adventures Green, they're clearly based on each other. Red and Blue have their canon names in Adventures, so why should we assume that Green's name isn't the canon one used? Yes, later characters are named after their versions in the manga, but those are different generations, where the naming scheme has been changed in the games. In Generation one, their names were all colors, so why should Red's female counterpart be any different? Also, you guys are contradicting yourselves. You used the anime's name for Barry because he didn't have an official name in the games, and that's A-OK to you, but when we're talking about Leaf/Green it's wrong? Why is that? You went with Barry because it was the most logical choice, that's why. It's supported by both the games (as one of the random preset names) ''and'' the anime, and the same anime also uses the official name for the character Dawn, so there's really no reason not to trust it. It was the best choice there was, so you used it. And Green is the best choice for the name of the female protagonist of FireRed/LeafGreen, and planned female protagonist of Generation I, so why aren't we using it? —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 20:24, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I hope you realize, Tyeforce, that when an admin (TTE no less...) says that it's the end of the convo, then stop. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:35, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Sorry, I'd just like to know why he's so set on the name Leaf when Green is the more logical choice. If he's the admin, then he must have approved the change from Pearl to Barry, so why is he sticking with Leaf instead of Green? And if I can't voice my opinion here anymore, can I take it to the forums, or will my thread just be locked and I'll be told to shut up with no reason given like what's happening here?—[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 20:44, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::As much as I'm inclined to disagree with his choice in naming, I believe he is acting in his rights to call the name into question. No one likes to edit a wiki that has draconian admins, after all. However, I believe he's failed to produce the evidence that's required: What is there, ingame, that says her name should be Green? Nothing, as far as I can tell. Barry at least had it as a default name in two games (Barry [the name] was in Platinum, right?). Leaf's absence from Pokémon Canon makes Leaf her only logical name.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 20:53, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::You talk as if Leaf/Green didn't have "Green" as an option for her name in her games, either. She did, just as is the case with Barry. But Barry's not the ''only'' default name he's given. It's just one among many. So what made Bulbapedia decide to call him Barry? The fact that the anime also calls him that. And the ''same exact situation'' can apply to Leaf/Green. Like Barry, she's never officially named in game, except for the list of default names, of which includes the name "Green". But she's also named Green outside of game canon, just like Barry was named for that exact same reason, so that's what we should call her. If somebody didn't decide to give her the name Leaf (yes, I know that it was based on internal data, but I've already given reasons as to why that can't be taken as an official name) and name this article so, then people would be calling her Green, the most logical choice. It's Bulbapedia's fault that her name is widely accepted as "Leaf" now, just like it was Bulbapedia's fault that so many people started calling the DPPt Rival "Pearl". You have to understand that what you say here greatly affects the entire Pokémon community, so it's very easy for false information to be taken as fact. Now, I'm not saying that it's a ''fact'' that Red's female counterpart is named Green, but there's much more evidence that supports it as opposed to calling her Leaf, and it's just more logical. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 21:09, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:(Gogo Indent Reset) Responding to each claim in order: But you see, it doesn't matter that Green is also an option because we could just as easily substitute in any of her other default names and argue it on that case. Green is only a default if you're playing LeafGreen; for FireRed, she'd just as well be called Fire. As far as Barry is concerned, the name is not only in Diamond, but also Platinum, which gives that name the ingame edge it needs over Clint, the top default name from Pearl. Your arguments that she is Green outside the game canon are pointless because she doesn't exist in any other canon; "Green" from Pokemon Adventures was established long before FireRed and LeafGreen were announced, and is thus an entirely separate character (if the separate wiki articles didn't already clue you in). Barry is named such because it is his default name in Platinum, giving Barry a 2-to-1 bias over Clint, and a 2-0 over Pearl. Leaf has no such out; in FR, she can be called Red or Fire, and in LG she can be called Leaf or Green. Any name is just as likely as the others (except Red, obviously). The ingame data in this case acts as final arbiter: it could have been literally any name and it would have won out (due to being present in both FireRed AND LeafGreen). I still don't see how Green is any more likely than Leaf; Leaf has a spot on the default names list AND the ingame data, where Green only has the default names list. You aren't providing the evidence you need. Probably because it doesn't exist.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 21:24, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::You're completely ignoring the fact that the character Leaf/Green has existed since Generation I. Not as a playable character, but in official artwork, and we know she was intended to be in the games, but just never made the cut. With that in mind, why would you go with the name "Leaf", which makes no sense, considering that the terms Fire and Leaf hadn't been introduced until Generation III? And I know that she's not the same exact character as the Green in the manga canon-wise, but it's clear as day that the two ''are'' the same character, just in different canon. Since her counterpart and rival have kept their color names throughout the generations, why should her name be an element and not a color? You can through game data at me all you want (by the way, where is your proof that the name "Green" only appears in LeafGreen, but "Leaf" appears in both?), but it just doesn't make sense. Since we no official name for her, have to think about what the developers' intent is. Do you think that they would call her Leaf, or the more logical choice, Green? It would appear that "Green" is the intended name, since it's used in the Adventures manga (which is the closest media to the game canon other than the games themselves), and it fits the color naming scheme. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 21:54, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::The flaw with your first point is if we go by that logic {{p|Shellos}} would be a Generation III Pokémon. If the character wasn't present in the games, no amount of intention is going to put them there. That puts your question to rest as well; Leaf because the Character didn't exist in Generation I. Saying it's clear as day means nothing; you're talking about 'the manga' like it's somehow more infallible than the games themselves (I must have skipped over the part of the game where my PC was kidnapped by Ho-Oh and spent several years in Johto). As for proof that Leaf is in both games, Leaf is the dummied out name for the character in both games (similar that Red is the default in both games for the dummied out character that had his face, as well as whatever the weird name that Blue had in FRLG). In the naming screen, the opposite game's name is '''never''' an option; You don't start up Red and see Blue as the default name for your character. So it would be reasonable to assume that neither Leaf nor Green are options for the default names in FireRed. Thus there are two separate instances of Leaf (ingame default name and the dummied out trainer with her sprite) and only one instance of Green (the ingame default name). Finally, you have yet to show any proof that Green is more suited than Leaf. Manga-based arguments are irrelevant, as they aren't the same character (even if their bases are the same).--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 22:13, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Just stop arguing pointlessly. People all over call her Leaf. Leaf is the generally excepted name. As for the reason, I don't know. You can wait for TTEchidna to explain why, but don't argue with yourselves, when you don't know all the facts. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 00:38, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::Not claiming that Japanese fandom is the be-all end-all by any stretch of the imagination, but I just want to point out that I have never seen ''any'' Japanese fans call Leaf "Blue." They usually call her, indeed, "Leaf" (リーフ). Other names I've seen from J-fandom have been "Fuguri" (フグリ) and "main character♀" (主♀)... never "Blue." Just thought I'd point that out. :3 [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 00:49, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::What's "Fuguri" mean? Sorry if that's obvious...--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 01:02, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::"Fuguri" comes from "Rii'''fu guri'''in" (or rather, LeafGreen). :3 [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 01:07, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
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 [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 01:34, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:Since it wouldn't let me post for some reason earlier today, I didn't get to post my reply to [[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]]. I'll go ahead and post what I tried to post earlier today but couldn't.

:Even if she wasn't physically present in the Generation I games, if she was, she would've been named Green, not Leaf. Since Red isn't renamed Fire and Blue isn't renamed Water in Generation III, why should we call her Leaf, instead of sticking with colors? And you're confusing me about the default name ''Leaf'''s presence in the games. At first you said that Green is only present in LeafGreen, but Leaf is present in both versions. Now you turn around and say that both Green ''and'' Leaf are only present in LeafGreen. Which is it? If the latter is true, then Green has just as much in game support as Leaf does, excluding unseen dummy files in the game data. You even brought up the fact that Blue's name in the game data is strange, not being Green like it should be (since that's his Japanese name). If we can't trust the internal data for Blue's name, then why should we trust it for Leaf/Green's name? With that said, if you exclude the internal data that can't be taken as fact and media outside of the games, then both names, Green ''and'' Leaf, have the same amount of supporting evidence for them (that is, assuming your first comment about the name Leaf being present in FireRed wasn't true, as you later suggested). They're tied, 1-1. So you have a choice to make. Should you go with the name that's present in placeholder data in the game (which can't be trusted, as shown by Blue's placeholder data), or should you go with the name that's also used in other media, ''and'' is more logical, fitting the color naming scheme? I think the choice is pretty obvious. Green is the name to go with. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 06:13, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
::Because she wasn't officially /in/ Gen I can she be inclusive to it. She existed as art and an idea that wouldn't come to fruition until Kris: a heroine choice. She may have "exist", but she is not a canon character until Gen III. This being her official debut, she has nothing to go on but these two games. She cannot be called Green, since FireRed is the Alpha game, making the "Green" character the rival (in essence). But seeing as there is no third game to possibly pawn her off on, the last bit is to chop the title in half, one name for the rival, and one name for the girl. Because the rival isn't officially 'Blue' by Gen III standards, since no Blue game exists in Gen III. Yes, he ''is'' Blue, in every English Gen that ''isn't'' the third. And since he's not Blue, but "Green," she, as a Gen III character, cannot be "Green". Hence. As she is a Gen III character only (so far), she cannot be named by the standards of Gen IV, only her own generation. If she had made an appearance in Gen IV...only ''then'' could her name be argued beyond the scope of her limited exposure. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 15:46, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Okay, now ''that'' makes sense. I hadn't thought of it that way. ''Thank you'' for actually providing logical evidence besides placeholder data that can't be trusted or fandom nonsense. If someone would have pointed that out a long time ago, I would've never argued over her name. So, again, I thank you for being the one to provide real, logical, valid evidence as to why she should be called Leaf. No longer will I call her Green. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 03:18, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:::: What's wrong with just saying this: Okay, so there's a "trio" from each Generation, correct? And each trio is named either with real names, or with version names. From Hoenn, we have Brendan, May, and Wally. From Sinnoh, we have Lucas, Dawn, and Barry. From Johto, we have Ethan, Lyra, and Emoguy. Anyways, since each "trio" follows a theme, meaning that the names have to be consistent with one another. Emoguy was given no clear name in HG/SS, so I can understand why we still call him Silver, since Ethan was previously known as Gold, but ANYWAYS, each name in the trio has to be consistent. Logically, what makes more sense: Red, Leaf, and Blue? Or Red, Green, and Blue? If it's that hard to notice people, '''the Kanto trio are named after colors''' Notice how "Leaf" is not a color. Just saying. EDIT: bah, screw it, who cares, it's just a name, afterall, Kris wasn't named Crystal. Leaf ftw! [[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] 16:17, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

== Fuguri ==

Do you know that it means "testicles" in Japanese? Whoever calls her that, he's probably NOT serious about this name. And this makes this not trivia-worthy. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:27, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:I do know that it means that, but fans do seriously call her by that name, and in a perfectly well-meaning manner. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 23:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:Kay, so some kind anons on 2ch were able to clear up for me the true origins behind the name "Fuguri." Here's the answer that I ultimately received.
::''The very first FireRed/LeafGreen thread was titled "FireRed LeafGreen" (ファイアレッドリーフグリーン) without the &.''
::''Because of that, people responded with, "FireRedLee & Fugurin (ファイアレッドリー＆フグリーン)? What an obscene title!"''
::''I have a feeling that's how the "Fuguri" thing started.''
::''Incidentally, the male protagonist was also called "Red Lee." Though now the names "Remake Red" and "Leaf" have permeated [the fandom].''
:So yes, while it started out as a joke because of the word "scrotum," it turned into a legitimate fandom name for her, and people do call her that in all seriousness, without any obscene intentions behind it. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 00:23, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
::I think it's somewhat like the fail pronunciation of Lyra's name as "Coat Own". They see "ko" and know "co", but "tone" doesn't read to them as two syllables, since it's an English word. And no one cares to read up on kana. You'd know someone meant Lyra if they called her Coat Own in a video. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:33, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

== PBR ==

You know, I've wondered this for a while. Red and Leaf appeared in the prerelease trailers for PBR; is it possible for players to assemble their outfits in PBR through the accessories, or not? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:34, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

== Leaf is her most common name? ==

The last trivia states this. However until recently she was mostly known as "Blue" in the fandom, due to Blue from Special. Even now she's still well-known as Blue. On a different note..Is a screenshot of her BR beta appearence article-worthy? Does anyone even have a somewhat high quality screen-shot? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 04:00, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
:As far as I know(which isn't much, as I came into the fandom during DP), she is known as Leaf. Her manga counterpart is the one most commonly known as Blue(for silly reasons). '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:20, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
::Leaf's Special counterparts name is Blue though..Anyway, Leaf up until recently has been synonymous with "Blue" or "Green" up until recently. Even now, a lot of people call her "Blue" on both sides of the fandom. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 22:02, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Actually, since The rival is known both as Blue and Green, It is safer to call her leaf.
And The PBR pic,the trailer Even on better sites like IGN, Is pretty low quality.
Unless someone has a better vid, we can't get a better picture. {{unsigned|Kanto Girl}}

== Early Design ==

I was looking on the internet, and found an image that looks like it could have been Leaf's original design. I cant upload the image, but I can give a link:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PokemonRedAndBlue?from=Main.ptitleevcce3c2

Go down to "What could have been" and click on female protagonist and you will see a pre design of Leaf. [[User:Iml908|Iml908]] 20:27, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
:[[Unreleased Pokémon and characters|We already have that]] [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 20:31, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

== Unknown ==

Shouldn't this article be tagged with {{template|Unknown name}}?
[[User:LurKasumi|LurKasumi]] 04:42, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
:In the internal game data of FRLG, her sprite is associated with the name "Leaf", just like the male character is named "Red", so it's valid. [[User:Duke R|'''|) u |( e''']] [[User talk:Duke R|'''®''']] 13:17, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

== Headwear ==

I remember that a few years back, this page had an interesting point of trivia. "If Leaf had been included in Red and Green with her original design, she would have been the only playable character to date without headwear." Well, that was the gist of it, but I'm sure it was worded better. Even now, 20 years after the original games, this is still true. Well, in the Playable Characters' default forms at least. Sun and Moon's protags are apparently able to remove their hats through customization. Could that be re-added? Or is it too random a trivia point to put down, especially since it's about an "if" rather than something that actually happened?
--[[User:BlackButterfree|BlackButterfree]] ([[User talk:BlackButterfree|talk]]) 02:42, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
:I would say not to re-add it. It's a pretty convoluted point, and like you said it never happened. [[User:Litwick96|Litwick]][[User Talk:Litwick96|96]] 02:51, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

== Comics ==

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What exactly are these comics? Some early comic book? {{unsigned|RubyLeafGreenCrystal}}
:It looks like it was from some sort of craft (like origami) book. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:38, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

== Leaf now called Green in Pokémon Let's Go? ==

Just read this now:

https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2018/11/7/18072704/pokemon-lets-go-trailer-red-blue-green-trainer-fights

It looks like '''Leaf''', who was just announced on the newslink above as making a guest appearance on [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]], won't be officially named Leaf but Green instead! But if Green was the Japanese name for [[Blue (game)|Blue]], then how will she be named in Japanese if "Leaf" is dropped for "Green"? (Also posted this on [[Talk:Player character#Leaf now called Green in Pokémon Let's Go?|Talk:Player character]].) [[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn (Pokémon Sun Trainer ID: 768426)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 14:33, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
:So far the only [https://pokemon.gamespress.com/THE-ELITE-FOUR-RETURN-WITH-A-FRESH-NEW-LOOK official news release] by Pokemon.com and their social media sites make no verbal mention of Red, Blue, and Leaf/Green. They don't even provide official clean renders of the artwork of the later four Gym Leaders, which the English trailer showed. Until we get clarification from Pokémon itself, or the game releases, we can only consider this idle speculation by Polygon.
:That said, if her name DOES indeed turn out to be Green, it will contradict what we considered to be the official source for Leaf's name after years of silence: [[a:File:Leaf and Squirtle artwork.png|her Kotobukiya ArtFx J concept art]]. - [[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]] 14:58, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
:: Whatever she will be called (probably Leaf) we should consider that the Let's Go games might take place in their own separate canon from the other core games (I don't deny they're main series, I question if they're a separate branch in the main series) since the new protagonists seem to replace the classic ones in Pallet Town while the classic ones are still existing and out and about.
::(and I don't mean a different timeline, but actually a completely different continuity like the anime and manga that does it's own thing different from the games)
::So perhaps in that case a separate page, for example Red(Let's Go) and the Red(game) page we have, coexisting as counterparts would be in place.
::It's still just speculation at this point of course, we'll have to wait and see...--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 08:41, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
:::Just wait until the games are released before you start suggesting all of this, please. We'll have the answers soon enough. Then we'll decide what to do. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 12:33, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
::::Well yes of course but I see no harm in brainstorming potential scenarios to be at least a bit more prepared at release for what may come.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 15:22, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
:Unless we see official confirmation that the LGPE character is the same character we currently call Leaf (alternate timelines nonwithstanding), LGPE is unlikely to affect this page's name. I doubt being "the female Gen I trainer" is enough to count as Leaf, because it would be similar to the {{ga|Kris}}/{{ga|Lyra}} situation. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 01:31, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
::Well, she is confirmed to be called Green in-game as seen in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPwtcdhlL3Q [[User:Sucoleo|Sucoleo]] ([[User talk:Sucoleo|talk]]) 08:41, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
:::Don't be funny. The game literally slaps us in the face that she's one and the same, by giving her an intermediate design between her Gen I and Gen III self. Don't grasp at straws. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 09:34, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
::::I agree that this is definitely meant to be the same character. Her top is clearly just inverted colours of her FRLG design, she's wearing shorts instead of a skirt and not wearing a hat. This change in design seems to be more of a difference like {{ga|May}} between her RSE and ORAS design than a {{ga|Kris}}/{{ga|Lyra}} difference. [[User:Tarawl|Tarawl]] ([[User talk:Tarawl|talk]]) 15:27, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::Whether Blue/Leaf is the same character or not, this does not affect Leaf as the official name of FRLG female protagonist. Yea, this is like Kris/Lyra case. Some people think that they are the same character, and Some people don’t. And Red(original/remake), Gold/Ethan, Elio(SM/USUM) and Selene(SM/USUM) are the same case also, although Bulbapedia has different treatments for them each. [[User:E9310103838|E9310103838]] ([[User talk:E9310103838|talk]]) 16:10, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::That's some pomfed logic to me. If it wasn't for the Kotobukiya figure, this issue would be non-existant. Different names for nameable characters exist, like they always did. There's absolutely no reason to split articles. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 18:00, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
::::Darn... had she be named Leaf like the figurine, that would have been more wise of Pokémon as to alleviate a bit the whole Blue/Green shenanigans that the fandom has been stuck with for years. I guess game-npc name takes preference over a figurine assigned name in this case I suppose...--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 19:08, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
:::It all comes down to Japanese names here. If (and only if) the LGPE character's Japanese name is リーフ, the two characters are one and the same. If the characters do not share a Japanese name, then there is nothing connecting the two, aside from both being derived from the unused Gen 1 girl. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 02:00, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
::::If you plan to maintain only one page, then hope that you use the corresponding official artwork, instead of using Leaf’s artwork and call this page Green. [[User:E9310103838|E9310103838]] ([[User talk:E9310103838|talk]]) 07:24, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::If they're two separate characters, a new page for [[Green (game)]] would need to be created. (It's currently a redirect to [[Blue (game)]], because of the localization name switch.) [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 12:02, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
::::Even if Green goes by Blue in Japanese instead of Leaf, everything else about the two still connects them together. she is design-wise obviously not a different character, Red and Blue aren't different characters either and neither would she be, ''unused Gen 1 girl'', Leaf and Green are all the same girl and have always been the same girl. Arguing otherwise is really unnecessarily grasping at straws. Unless Let's Go is of a different separate canon, then perhaps would it be in place for most characters to have a (Let's Go)version page, like how the anime versions of characters often have their own (anime)version page, (manga), Ash(M20) etc.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 17:24, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::Yep, I agree. It's clear that they're one and the same. This page itself already considers Leaf to be the same as the "unused Gen 1 girl" -- which is Green/Blue in Let's Go. Design-wise, this case is much different from the Kris/Lyra situation. Leaf and Green share the exact same design (brown hair, brown eyes, same hair, same shirt). It's just that the clothes are a little different. They're based on the same "unused Gen 1 girl". It's very obvious they're the same character. Kris and Lyra were different enough to warrant the split, but the same can not be said for Leaf and Green. The page should be renamed to Green. If anyone is still wondering, her Japanese name is indeed Blue (ブルー) in-game as seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J26t65DI7j0 [[User:Sucoleo|Sucoleo]] ([[User talk:Sucoleo|talk]]) 19:18, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::Basically this. It's so obvious that it's meant to be the same character, the only way it could be more conclusive is if Masuda or someone else outright states it. This is more like the Gold/Ethan situation over the Kris/Lyra situation where the new name just replaces the old one in canon (If Leaf could have even been considered canon) rather than a whole new character replacing in canon. It also makes the most sense as the canon name (Red, Blue, Green vs. Red, Blue, Leaf). [[User:Tarawl|Tarawl]] ([[User talk:Tarawl|talk]]) 20:29, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::Look at my side of the argument again. There is no official source indicating Green is derived from Leaf, and visually she's the unused Gen 1 girl with a few elements taken from Leaf. And on top of that, she has a different Japanese name despite Leaf being officially named in Japanese ''during the development of Let's Go''. Given what I've just said, any claim that Leaf and Green are the same character is pure speculation, and we don't deal in speculation. We waited for over three years for a source to say Zygarde was part of a trio despite it being "obvious", so there's no reason for us to claim Green is Leaf without a source. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 04:45, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::I agree with Bwburke94. I propose that we create a new page for the unused female character from Generation I and include information about Green from Pokémon Let's Go on that page. Leaf and Green seem to be strongly indicated to be separate characters; although Leaf is partially based on the unused character from Generation I, there is no evidence at the moment to suggest that they are one and the same. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 05:47, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::Sure. Let's split it into three - "the unnamed Gen I girl", "Leaf the FRLG character" and "Green the NPC". I also recommend making a separate article for the Kotobukiya figure, just in case. Or... I know, maybe let's telephone Junichi Masuda on the matter? Is John Gamefreak's nephew in da house?! *A Poké Ball came flying at you* --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 08:37, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::Dude, don't be like that. You make yourself look dumber than you make us look. We're trying to have a civil discussion about an issue on a Pokémon fan wiki. Being sarcastic like that helps nobody. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 10:03, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::I'm not the one who started talking insane. Really, the game slaps you in the face with obvious evidence, yet you people say "hurr speculation durr unconfirmed". If you need an official statement like "She is/isn't the same character", then in all seriousness, the only way is to contact someone from Game Freak, because official materials will most likely never give you that. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 11:46, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::If you have evidence, then by all means provide it. Keep in mind it needs to prove that Green is Leaf, but not necessarily that Green and/or Leaf is the Gen 1 trainer. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 12:51, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::::[https://twitter.com/revolocities/status/1063193075655237632 For the love of Arceus...]--[[User:YoHaNe|YoHaNe]] ([[User talk:YoHaNe|talk]]) 12:58, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::::I don't think you understood what I meant. The evidence needs to prove that ''Green is Leaf''. Not that Green might be Leaf, or that Green and Leaf share a character pose. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 13:18, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

== Is LGPE Green the same person as Leaf? ==

Starting a new section because the last one got a bit out of hand.

My argument is as follows: Green shares more visual similarities with her Gen 1 design than she does with Leaf, and shares her Japanese name with her Gen 1 design but not with Leaf. Because Leaf's Japanese name was given to her during the development of LGPE, she would have been named as "Blue" (ENG Green) on that figure if she were the same character as Green. Also, there are no official sources that state that Leaf is the same character as either version of Green.

This means that the following course of events is very possible: Nintendo/Game Freak decided to put Red/Blue/Green in LGPE. Because Red and Blue are based on their Gen 1 designs, they chose to use Green from Gen 1 instead of Leaf from Gen 3, despite the fact Green didn't make it into the finished version of Gen 1. Green did take some traits from Leaf, but is still a distinct character of her own.

If any of you can refute that statement, feel free to respond. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 13:39, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:My argument is that the Green we see in LGPE shares all physical features with Leaf and wears a hybrid outfit of hers and Leaf(these similarities were not the case with Kris and Lyra) and are both associated as part of the Kanto trio.

:Back when FRLG came out they updated the original trio, Red got a new outfit, Blue got a new outfit and unused gen 1 girl got a new outfit, she so happened to be named Leaf in the data so that is the name she got stuck with on here, but that holds no merit, Blue was named Terry in the data, so should there be a Terry(game) page? No, of course not. Had she be named Green back then, I'd highly doubt we would be having this discussion and everyone would easily accept that it is the same character just like everyone accepts that fact for Red and Blue.

:We never needed official sources that confirmed that Red and Blue from FRLG were the same characters from RGB, but we need one now for Green? I'm sorry but I'm genuinely baffled.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 14:20, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

::Your argument relies on the assumption that Leaf is directly based on the protagonist from the unused Pokémon art. The creators never confirmed this, only that she drew inspiration from that character. This new Green is inspired by both the unused character and Leaf, that part is true, but "inspired by" is not the same as "is the same character". There is overwhelming evidence to support that Red and Blue are the same characters as the original, especially because they have appeared in multiple games before this. I would also like to add that Leaf's FR/LG appearance is drastically different from the unused character than Red and Blue's appearances compared to their Gen I counterparts, so it seems to me that Game Freak decided to recycle some old concepts while creating Leaf and then return to their original plan for Pokémon Let's Go. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 14:28, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:::You people really overestimate Kotobukiya's value. It's not a Game Freak source (and we don't know their philosophy of naming player characters - for example, if they made a GSC male character figure and named it "Gold", would you split Ethan's article into two? Or if they made an USUM-based "Ailey" figure?) and the FR/LG data name is just unused beta content. The pose and design of her LGPE appearance makes it blindingly clear that they meant Green to represent both the FR/LG girl character and the unused Gen I girl. Of course they wouldn't make her appear in her full FR/LG attire, because that'd be inconsistent with Red and Green's designs in these games. But they gave her some FR/LG elements in order to make her recognizable (not that it was ever a problem to recognize her - to me, Red's Gen I and Gen III designs are way more apart than Green's, but that's of course an opinion). How is it speculation? It's simply logic. I know that Bulbapedia loves denying things until an unambiguous answer is shoved into our faces. But treating the two as separate is just as speculative than treating them as one (I'd say way more speculative, considering that GF is obviously trying to bring their appearances together). They are different characters, but only because of multiverse and in this logic, we would have to split literally everyone. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 14:37, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

::::I propose a compromise because this argument is getting to be ridiculous. We rename this page to Green, but restructure the entire page, starting from the unused character art from Generation I, include a section about Leaf, and finally get to Pokémon Let's Go. In the page itself we should address the character's complicated history. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 14:41, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:::::That I find better than splitting into separate pages--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 14:48, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:::::: I never imagined that a small inquiry I made a few days ago would lead to a bigger argument than the {{ga|Elio}}/{{ga|Selene}} vs Ray/Ailey debate that started one year ago and lasted until about a month ago. Welcome to Bulbapedia again! [[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn (Pokémon Sun Trainer ID: 768426)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 15:03, 17 November 2018 (UTC) (P.S. Splitting this thread into two sections was a wise idea, [[User:bwburke94|bwburke94]].)

:::::::There would also be the header at the top of the page about it having been proposed to split the page into separate pages with the Shedinja.--[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 15:54, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

::::::::IMO, “Leaf” and “Green” are clearly the same character. Green’s design is a hybrid of the designs of the female player character from FRLG and the beta character from Red and Blue. (Her dress is black like in RB, and it has the same ring as the top as it does in FRLG. Additionally, the yellow bag and the hairstyle (without the hat) is the same from FRLG.) She was revealed alongside Red and Blue and she plays a similar role in game to both of them. Heck, her new name even is parallel to Red and Blue’s. It makes sense that the female player character, the male player character, and the rival would be highly connected. I think that just because her new name doesn’t match with a fan name that was given to her long ago and picked up by a non-GAMEFREAK source should not dictate that two characters who, by examining the designs and the roles they play, are the same character, are NOT the same character. But that’s just my opinion. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 16:07, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:::::::::I had just resolved the argument with a compromise and you come in to initiate it again. *sighs* --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 16:11, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::I just wanted to provide my input :/ --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 16:14, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::Well, I'm glad at least that you did so in a reasoned, professional manner, I would honestly have rather had the original discussion with you involved. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 16:19, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::Thank you :) --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 16:23, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::I'd accept the compromise of covering them both on one page, ''as long as'' we continue to call the FRLG character "Leaf". Within the context of FRLG, only one character can reasonably be called "Green" and it isn't her. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 16:44, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::I respectfully disagree... If a canon name is brought in for an official character where there was none before, I don't see the point in continuing to refer to the character as an older fan name for the older games. (For reference, there was a similar discussion at [[Talk:Ethan (game)]] where there was a discussion over the names Gold vs. Ethan.) Besides, there really isn't any other character who can reasonably be called Green in FRLG— we refer to the rival character in FRLG as Blue even though the games are Fire''Red'' and Leaf''Green''. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 18:41, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::In that case, it's not a compromise at all, is it? [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 18:56, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::To Bwburke94: Yes, that is true. I see the point of compromises, but I think it might be better to have more accurate information in this scenario. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 19:36, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::I'm agreeing with renaming because it seems to be her new official name. Along with an edit to the name origin section that would explain the naming confusion. [[User:Tarawl|Tarawl]] ([[User talk:Tarawl|talk]]) 20:01, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:What was the reason why we called the character "Leaf" in the first place, anyway? All I know is that it comes from the female name list of LG, which contains both "Leaf" ''and'' "Green" just like the male name list. Isn't "Leaf" just something fans generally agreed upon in the absence of a single, official name? If that's the case, I see no problem renaming the page "Green". [[User:Immblueversion|Immblueversion]] ([[User talk:Immblueversion|talk]]) 19:33, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::It was a placeholder in the data of FRLG. It's addressed on her page.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 20:04, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::Indeed. Nintendo never officially referred to her as that; we only used the placeholder name because we didn't have a more "official" name. Now that she has finally been given a proper name by the games, I see no reason to keep the current name. [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 21:21, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::The reason she is called Leaf is because it makes more sense within the context of FireRed and LeafGreen. Red and Green in those games are the protagonist and the rival, and since there is no WaterBlue, it makes sense to call the female protagonist option "Leaf" because that way it still parallels the rival's name "Green". And once again, as Bwburke94 and I have said numerous times, we don't HAVE accurate information for this topic. The indication, from our perspective, is strong that there isn't proof Leaf is the same character as Green, but we are willing to come halfway.--[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 21:34, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

::::::Sorry if I am wrong, but I thought that the Rivals (from Gen. 3 onwards, including FRLG and HGSS) were all '''the same character''' as the player character (in, for instance, HGSS, if you chose Ethan, your rival would be Lyra; if you chose Lyra, your rival would be Ethan). [[User:CherubAgent1440|CherubAgent1440]] ([[User talk:CherubAgent1440|talk]]) 13:41, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

:::::In FRLG, the rival's name is "Blue" in the west and "Green" in Japan. This is reversed for the female protag where she is now confirmed to be "Green" in the west and "Blue" in Japan. It makes 100% sense for the female protagonist to be called Green (ブルー in Japanese). In fact, the name "Leaf" doesn't make sense in a naming standpoint due to them being named after the 3 colours of the games. 21:42, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:::::Depends on what you consider proof, I think there is an abundance of proof.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 21:49, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:::::What proof do you need to accept that they're the same character? Just look at them! Their faces, hair, eye color and bags are identical or close to it, and the top of Green's dress is clearly designed to look reminiscent of Leaf's shirt, except color-flipped.[https://www.serebii.net/letsgopikachueevee/rgb/green1.jpg][https://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/4/48/FireRed_LeafGreen_Leaf.png] Red had more changes between his original design and his FR/LG redesign. Do we also need proof that "Gold" and Ethan are the same character? [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 01:56, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

::::::I am afraid this is getting out of hand again… All the debate and contention generated by the Elio/Selene-vs-Ray/Ailey controversy in one year is now being surpassed by this discussion in less than a month. Time to close this section and start a new one below… [[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn (Pokémon Sun Trainer ID: 768426)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 04:06, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

{{indent}}…which I just did right now. The previous thread became just as long as the first one (roughly four 768px-tall browser screens long). And since I was the one who initiated the conversation in the first place, I decided not to take an official stance in this debate — I’ll let you duke it out while I watch the ongoing events. Welcome to Bulbapedia again! [[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn (Pokémon Sun Trainer ID: 768426)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 04:06, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
:You don't have to create a new section when a discussion gets too long for your liking. Just leave it be. If the chain of comments is getting to confusing, just reset the indents (it's what <nowiki>{{indent}}</nowiki> is for).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:19, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

::My comment above was deleted, so I am re-posting it here to continue the above discussion. It makes sense in the context of the series as a whole, but for FR/LG Leaf makes more sense as a counterpart to Green, since a "WaterBlue" doesn't exist in either Japan or America. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 05:40, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
:::... So what if there is no WaterBlue. An identical looking girl exists in association with Red and Blue, it makes sense for the franchise if that girl is the same girl like the other two boys are the same boys.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 10:27, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

::Just to contest a common point being brought up here: Kotobukiya is not a "Game Freak" source, but this does not make it unofficial. Someone at The Pokemon Company obviously had to take a look at the product before deciding that it was an accurate representation of the franchise and gave it the official seal of approval. TPC has a storied history of strictness and standards in interacting with these affiliates. Despite Let's Go already being in development at the time of the figure's conception, they clearly had no issue with Leaf as the character's name. Unless the staff is interested in introducing a magical "degrees of canonicity" system, I don't see why it should be discredited. There are a wellspring of things on the wiki considered canonical by current standards that haven't been directly echoed by Game Freak gospel, but have been run by TPC/TPCI and are considered fine--[[User:ThePacisBack|ThePacisBack]] ([[User talk:ThePacisBack|talk]]) 10:36, 18 November 2018 (UTC).
:::Kotobukiya is definitely an official source— we used it for the names of Elio and Selene— but information in the games themselves that would contradict what something like Kotobukiya says would definitely override it. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 13:48, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
::::Problem is, there is no "information in the games themselves" to state that Leaf and Green are the same person. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 14:31, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::What would be information in the games that states that Red in LGPE is the same one as the one from RGB or FRLG?--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 14:46, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::His name, for one. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 15:47, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
::Leaf indeed as an official name now. Not only the names of all Kotobukiya collections are taken from the official name. (Even the official names of several characters are used for publicity for the first time. Before that, they were only called male and female protagonists in publicity.) They even invited Ken Sugimori to draw the model of Red's figure of Pokemon Center Original. Prove that the name they adopted is recognized by GF. Regardless of whether Blue(Green) and Leaf are in the same character or how to deal with this page, I Just want to defend the name "Leaf" XD. Unlike Fire(FRLG Red) as an fan name and Ray/Ailey as half official names (They have never been officially confirmed). By the way, Gold(Jimmy) and Ethan obviously in the anime as different characters XD [[User:E9310103838|E9310103838]] ([[User talk:E9310103838|talk]]) 15:46, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::The gen 1 protagonist was named Satoshi and the rival was named Shigeru, then the rival in FRLG was named Terry, seems like if Leaf should be a separate character than so should good ol' Terry, Satoshi and Shigeru--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 16:05, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::Danyyel, I feel like a more accurate comparison would be the male player character in GSC vs HGSS: How do we know that "Gold" and Ethan are one and the same? The answer, at least to someone around the time that HGSS came out, is common sense. Very similar design, same role in-game, etc. Similar case with Elio vs. "Ray", or "Leaf" vs. the scrapped character from Red and Blue, for that matter. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 16:09, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::(responding to Bwburke94) Sure there is; their designs. PLG Green is literally Leaf with different clothes and an extra fringe on her forehead. Can you name two player characters who look identical like Green and Leaf do yet are considered separate characters? [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 19:03, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

{{indent}} At the moment, we're keeping it on one page. However, in contexts referring to the FRLG protagonist, she should be referred to as "Leaf", and in contexts referring to the LGPE NPC, she should be referred to as "Green" (in the same manner as we treat items and moves that have been renamed). If/when the Kotobukiya figurine gets released by TPCi in English, this decision will be reevaluated. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 03:46, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

:I Also think we should have the article separation header with the Shedinja ("this article has been suggested to be split into Green (game) and Leaf (game). Please talk about it on the discussion page..."). It HAS been suggested and it's only fair we give notice so the choice can be re-evaluated when there's more information in the future. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 12:52, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

::I added the page splitting header for pages that have been suggested to be split into multiple articles. As it HAS been suggested, it's only fair; this does not mean the page will actually be split yet. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 10:16, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

:::Honestly I don't think they should be split, and should be just simply referred to as Green. Leaf and Green have similar facial structures, hairstyles, hair color, eye color, and even the same bag. Heck, both her and Red's VS models in Pikachu & Eevee are both nods to their sprites in FRLG. As for her outfit, in the context of Pikachu & Eevee both Red and Blue both use their Gen I designs, so it does make sense that Green's outfit is designed similarly to the prototype female character. As for her name, it's most likely a simple establishment that her name is Green. Similar to Ethan in GSC, it was never established in the games her name was Leaf. Leaf only came from internal game data, which referred to her as such. Granted Kotobukiya did announce a figurine of her under Leaf, but that's all it is, an announcement. For all we know the name could be changed when her figurine is officially released. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 16:45, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

:::It seems to me that the only argument that people have in favor of them being separate characters is their different names. Which, if you ask me, is a pretty weak argument, seeing how she was never called Leaf in the games. PLG was the first time the games gave her a canon name; Leaf can be seen as more of a placeholder name in lieu of a real name, like Gold. Everything else about Leaf and Green supports them being the same character, with their nigh identical designs, and the fact that Green is paired with Red and Blue in PLG. I agree that she should only be referred to as Green by the article. Moreover, while PLG Green's look is clearly based on the design of the unused female player character from Gen I, they altered it to make her look more like Leaf. If Game Freak had intended for her to be seen as a separate character, you would expect them to make her look ''less'' like Leaf, not the other way around. [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 21:24, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

::::As far as Game Freak is concerned, they seem to be treated as separate characters, although Leaf is based on Green. Even in materials published since the release of Let's Go, merchandise and references that allude to the character from FR/LG are referred to under the name "Leaf" (or are otherwise not named at all, like in SSBU) while materials referring to the character from Let's Go Pikachu and Let's Go Eevee refer to her as Green (or Blue, in Japanese). The blue on Green's clothing is a reference to her Japanese name, it's not intended to make her look more like Leaf. Even discounting these facts, there is a lot of circumstantial evidence that suggests they are not meant to be the same character, such as the fact that Leaf is used in media as interchangeable with Red (e.g. Super Smash Brothers Ultimate) and does not have much of a personality, while Green is given her own, more mischievous personality and does not merely function as a mirror to Red (if Green and Leaf were indeed interchangeable, either the FR/LG character would be more fleshed out in her appearances or Green would only repeat "..." in Pokémon Let's Go). If nothing else, separating the pages into Leaf and Green would make it easier for casual Bulbapedia users to follow the content; especially if the Green page incorporated information about the unused player character that we currently have under the unused character designs page. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 05:42, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

:::::Even if they are the "same character", there is enough variation in the portrayals of her between games that it could warrant two separate articles. It's similar to how there's separate pages for Ash from the main show and Ash from the I Choose You universe. The FR/LG portrayal of this character is different enough from the Let's Go portrayal of the character that it's easier to follow if there are two separate articles. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 05:53, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

::::::So then by that, then should the player characters that act as NPCs, such as Ethan, Lyra, Dawn, Lucas, etc. deserve their own articles as NPCs since they exude a personality other than silent protagonist and aren't mirrors to the player character when so. Green can be easily seen in a similar vein to the aforementioned player characters when they're NPCs, since Red has already been long established to be the canon player character of the Gen I games and their remakes. Also why are you using a game that isn't even developed by Game Freak as proof that Leaf and Green aren't the same? Smash Bros. Ultimate is developed by Sora, Ltd. and Namco Bandai, not Game Freak. Lastly, the only thing that refers to Green as "Leaf" is the internal data (which isn't very consistent, and isn't used as a basis for naming characters, ala Barry, Elio, and Selene), and the Kotobukiya figurine '''''announcement''''', as in the figurine hasn't been officially released, and the name could potentially change once it's released. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 18:05, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

:::::"The blue on Green's clothing is a reference to her Japanese name, it's not intended to make her look more like Leaf." < The blue sections on PLG Green's clothes reflect the pattern on Leaf's shirt. Their chest areas look really similar, except color-flipped. You think this is a coincidence? There's also the fact that PLG Green was given the same face and eyes as Leaf, despite her original design having a different face.[https://www.serebii.net/letsgopikachueevee/rgb/green1.jpg][https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Kensugiart4.png] You could argue that her face was redesign to match Sugimori's modern style, but that alone wouldn't explain why her face is a copypaste of Leaf's when other female characters drawn by Sugimori have different faces and eye colors. [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 00:35, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

== Infobox picture ==

Given the unusual nature of this article post-move, would it make sense to use LGPE Green's model for the infobox picture? Having a picture of "Leaf" directly below the name "Green" is a bit weird, but LGPE Green doesn't have any official art that I know of... [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 09:00, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

There's concept art and she'll most likely have official art down the road whenever they decide to use that. The concept art will most likely be used in the infobox until the official art releases, while the FRLG art would be sent to the "other art" infobox near the bottom of the page. I'd be completely fine if all characters had main series designs carried on the main info box though like how Pokemon show their forms, with the current design being the biggest image on it. [[User:TrainerSplash|TrainerSplash]] ([[User talk:TrainerSplash|talk]]) 06:24, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

There is this [https://twitter.com/Paulrobertryan/status/1066694445167517698 settei art...] But in the art-book there are [https://nintendosoup.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/pokemon-letsgo-red-green-official-art-1.jpg more proper individual artworks more befitting for the infobox], there are ones for Red and Blue and I would assume then also for Green. I suppose we wait for the art-book.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 10:58, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Some of the "proper" (i.e. non-settei) arts may also be in the Strategy Guide (English and/or Japanese), in the main walkthrough part. A good quality scan would be much appreciated. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 21:53, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

== The "Green/Leaf" title is REALLY necessary? ==

I don't understand why there's a whole bureaucracy with her name compared to all the other characters.

Honestly... she was NEVER called "Leaf" in any official media. This name was taken from the internal files of the games, which is understandable to use this name until the present time, because it was the closest of a name that we had for her.

But it was never completely introduced into the canon of story, it was always a conjecture that the fandom settled over time. But now that she's finally got her name formally introduced as "Green/Blue" in the games, it seems that this commodity is hindering leaving the name "Leaf" aside.

The same applies to the character "Silver" as we believe it to be his name on bases that are just conjecture. If he has an official name one day, chances are it will be something different. Will we simply put on his page: "Canon name/Silver"? Doesn't sound professional to me.

It's been revealed that her name is Green/Blue, so be it...
Just put in the trivias that her files on FireRed/LeafGreen is named "Leaf", which may be just a "provisional name" which is perfectly common in games archives. [[User:SuzukiTenma|SuzukiTenma]] ([[User talk:SuzukiTenma|talk]]) 18:35, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
: I think a lot of people are getting hung up on the announcement of her Kotobukiya ArtFx J figurine, which refers to her as "Leaf", rather than "Green". Granted it's only an announcement and the name of the figurine could change once released, however the games should definitely take precedence for names of characters. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 23:07, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
:: My argument does revolve around the figurine, but also around the fact that there's no evidence of the two being the same character. My view on this has always been that Leaf and Green are two separate characters derived from the unused Gen I trainer. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 02:53, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
:::If "Leaf" and Green were intended to be separate, then their designs should reflect that, similar to Kris and Lyra, yet they don't. If a simple outfit change is enough to make a whole new character, then, for example, May from RS is not the same from E, and neither are the same from ORAS. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 01:54, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
::::See my response to the Gold/Ethan query below. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 01:42, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
: I agree there isn't much sense in keeping "Leaf" in the infobox and opening paragraph. Even with the Kotobukiya figure being named that, it was never used in the games, so it should be irrelevant. As said, it's just a placeholder name. I recall Red being officially called "Ash" ages ago in a poll asking about what Nintendo characters players would like to see Smash, yet we're not calling him "Red/Ash" in his infobox, are we? [[User:Ericss|Ericss]] ([[User talk:Ericss|talk]]) 00:56, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
:: And {{ga|Ethan}} was called Gold until HeartGold/SoulSilver came out but there's no references to his old name. There's no Ethan/Gold in his infobox, and the article consistently called him Ethan, even in places talking about GSC. And the Pokémon Gold manual has called him Gold, not just in screenshots but also in the story page. I don't know if the Pokémon Silver manual called him Silver in the story summary, but Leaf/Green is a similar situation to Gold/Ethan. Ethan was Gold for a decade. Green was Leaf for fourteen years. And they got renamed by their appearance as an NPC. People are arguing that the Green from Let's Go is a different person from Leaf, but if that's the case, could Ethan be a different person from Gold? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 05:45, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
::: I'll respond to both Sean and Sinjoh here. Gold/Ethan have a different name but basically the same design, while May has the same name ''and'' a very similar design across all three of her appearances. In fact, Emerald May is a direct palette swap of RS May. Meanwhile, Leaf/Green have both different names and different designs. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 01:42, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
::::What do you mean they have different designs? As I and others said, PLG Green is ''identical'' to Leaf besides the clothing. Red and Brendan's redesigns had ''more changes than her.'' [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 03:44, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
:::::I strongly agree... Just look at Elio, his redesign in Ultra is very different than his original design in SM, yet we are still considering him the same character, as we should continue to. I don't see why we have to apply a different set of logic to this character just because a placeholder name has been replaced with an official one. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 18:24, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
::::::The difference with Elio/Selene is that we have an official source to state they are the same characters. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 08:17, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
:::::::Wrong, Selene and Elio are only referred to as such in their SM designs, not their USUM designs. All the evidence people brought regarding their names comes from material that refers to material involving SM, not USUM. Also, you have yet to answer how "Leaf" and Green have different designs past their outfits, as they look very similar to one another. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 12:04, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
::::::::Yep, AFAIK the SM designs are the only ones that have been referred to as Elio and Selene. The names Ray and Ailey have been used in prerelease media for USUM. So the case is the same here; why do we need to use different logic for Green? --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 13:43, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Sorry if i'm getting the whole context wrong, but going by that whole rationale, shouldn't we also apply "Brendan/Landon" to [[Brendan (game)]], since we have the [[Landon (Groundbreakers 41)|Landon]] figure from the TFG? (which is clearly intended to be based off the 'playable' Brendan from Ruby)

Personally, I'm opposed to this whole "Green/Leaf" and "Brendan/Landon" thing.

IMO, '''Green''' should be her main designation for most uses to avoid unneeded convolution.

I don't think insisting on using "Leaf" within the context of FireRed/LeafGreen holds much ground any longer. If we use the internal data to justify that, we'd have to use Terry as [[Blue (game)|Blue]]'s name within the context of FR/LG too. Otherwise "Leaf" is just one of her many default names (as valid as "Fire", "Green", "Red", "Hillary", "June", "Rey", etc)

While figures ARE official and directly based on the games, they're just interpretations, supplementary (and not integral) in nature.

Thus, I think we should only use "Leaf" in sections referring to the Kotobukiya figure, for now. -- [[User:Yagamitaichi|Yagamitaichi]] ([[User talk:Yagamitaichi|talk]]) 02:33, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

:The reason I believe that this should be split into separate pages is because I feel it would make it easier for users of Bulbapedia to follow, especially given the elaborate and complex history of this character. We can retitle the page to just "Green" if you want, but too many articles on this very wiki refer to this character as "Leaf" to simply change the name. Nobody calls Brandon "Landon". I insist that we continue to refer to the character from FR/LG as just "Leaf" on the page. I also think it is very important to start this article with information on the unused character from R/B/G/Y because this page is a mess at the moment. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 02:47, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
::Yagamitaichi, I like your solution: refer to her as Green within contexts of LGPE and FRLG, and as Leaf for the figure for now.

::I don't really see the point in making a page split for two iterations of the same character IMO. It's much simpler and easier to follow to keep all the information on her on one page. Let's just change everything to Green apart from references to the figure. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 02:52, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

:::We do not have PROOF that they are the same character, but even that's besides the point. You are also ignoring that we resolved this issue with an earlier compromise (make one page but refer to her as "Leaf" in the context of FRLG) and people keep bringing the topic back up to try and push their view. The reason being that Green is clearly an attempt to revive the old unused character, while Leaf may or may not be a separate thing entirely. If it was "so obvious" they were the same character the whole time, why keep information about the unused character on a separate page until the release of LGPE, which doesn't prove anything other than to reintroduce the idea of the character of Green? --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 03:20, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
::::FWIW I think people should get to share their own opinions about the matter. If their opinions are, like mine, that we should be using one name for the two iterations of this character, then so be it.

:::: I do remember that the unused character's information was, prior to this whole debate, on this page, and I believe that it still should be, as it is a clear predecessor Green, but I don't understand how that changes anything about Green or "Leaf". If anything, IMO, it only serves to cement that Green from LGPE and Green from FRLG are one and the same.

::::I'd like to go back to your first sentence though. I hope this doesn't come across as rude, but how is Green vs Leaf any different from any redesign for a main character in the past, many of which are even more drastic than this? --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 04:01, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

:::::Although I still stand by my opinion, I am grateful to you for being civil and courteous on the matter and for discussing this in a rational way. Of course people should be allowed to share their opinion; however, I think we should stick with the compromise for now. To answer your question, the difference is in the complicated history of the character. The original unused character was never given a name or even made canon, and so everything that has come after, be it Green or Leaf, can only be seen as interpretations of the character. The Gold/Ethan thing doesn't count because "Gold" was an established character from the beginning, and the Brandon/Landon thing doesn't count because Brandon was an official name and an established character by the time of that figure's release. The LGPE Green was given her name as a reference to Pokémon Adventures and to canonize the unused character, which suggests, at least to me, that they intended for Leaf to be a separate character. Since we've been treating Leaf as a separate character from the unused character from the time of FRLG's release to the time of LGPE's release, I think we should stick with treating them as separate characters for consistency. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 09:35, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
::::::I think I understand your position a little bit more. However, up until November 16 of this year, information on the unused female protagonist was on this page-- we had been treating them as the same up until then, as I also believe we should continue to in the future. Additionally, I think that "Gold" from GSC was just as much of an established character as "Leaf" from FRLG. I don't really think that LGPE Green was given the name "Green" to canonize the unused character and to reference Pokémon Adventures, as she didn't really have a canon name prior to LGPE, just a placeholder name that was widely adopted by the community.

::::::Basically, at least from how I see it, she didn't have a canon name before, and now she has one which is more in line with her [[Red (game)|two]] [[Blue (game)|counterparts]], and she also has a design which merges aspects of her two older designs.--[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 15:59, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

:::::::I second this. Naming her after Pokémon Green/Blue is only natural, after they named the male protagonist and rival after the other versions. The naming scheme isn't exclusive to Pokémon Adventures, so I don't see it as a reference to it. In fact, that wasn't even the only manga to name her that. Her counterpart in Pokémon Pocket Monsters[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Blue_(Ruby-Sapphire)] is called Blue too, despite being clearly based on Leaf from the remakes. [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 02:39, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

:::::::::Obviously they can be the same people. The USUM artbook even has a picture of Elio and Selene (SM style) direct replacement for new clothing. [[User:E9310103838|E9310103838]] ([[User talk:E9310103838|talk]]) 00:21, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
{{indent}}So the way the article is currently written, it seems to be treating Green’s iterations from FRLG and LGPE as the same character. Putting my personal opinions on whether they’re the same character or not aside, this still to me seems super confusing. I know I’m beating a dead horse but honestly it’s ridiculous to have two names for (what we are treating as) one character. Assuming that they’re the same character, why does her being explicitly given a name in LGPE not override whatever Kotobukiya decides to name their figure, especially before it’s even officially released? Using two names for one character is honestly just confusing as hell to read, and the fact that one is from the games explicitly and the other is not just adds to that.

We should use one name universally if we’re going to treat Green as one character, which seems to be what BP is wanting to do. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 13:14, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

== To be or not to be that's the question. (Or why is that even a question in the first place?) ==

So, let's have one final discussion regarding any controversies on "Leaf" and "Green" being the same person or not (let's not confuse with this with the Green/Leaf naming controversy, which is a different, albeit closely related issue). The older ones seems to have become overlong and riddled with personal opinions without much regard to actual evidence on both sides. Things just got harder and harder to follow as time went on.

Pros:

* Same hairstyle as seen on FRLG and Gen I artwork.
* Obvious FRLG influences on her attire (backpack is exactly the same from FRLG, and that little pattern on the collar is now blue)
* Red and Blue are 'slightly updated' Gen I-like designs, so Green was changed accordingly to fit the theme (Remember Sugimori said he just updated the Gen I girl for the female FRLG protagonist, rather than creating a new character from scratch).
* "Leaf" trademark pose from the FRLG Trainer Card is the same as Green's challenging pose from LGPE, hair flip and all.

Cons:

* Someone asked Ken Sugimori on Twitter about her default FRLG name, and he responded "Leaf... Maybe?"
** However, 'default name' in a broader sense, 'may' not necessarily mean the same thing as the "canon name" to be used throughout the game series. The [[Blue (game)|Generation I Rival]]'s canon name is "Blue" for example, despite that not being a default name for him in [[Pokémon Blue]] or the remakes.

It's extremely unlikely anyone from The Pokémon Company or Game Freak will ever issue a formal, definite statement on such a simplistic matter. So I think the best solution would be a voting session once we compile a few more Pros and Cons. -- [[User:Yagamitaichi|Yagamitaichi]] ([[User talk:Yagamitaichi|talk]]) 15:40, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
:The figure outright calls her Leaf, which I suppose is a "con" for those who think they're one and the same. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 17:59, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
::The '''announcement'''. Why do people forget that? The figure hasn't been released yet, and could easily change upon release. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 18:52, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
:An additional pro on the deisgn front could be the wrist bands. They're black in the FrLg design and white in the LGP!E! design, but that could be because the Gen 1 design had white gloves, which makes the wrists bands an interesting fusion of the two accessories from those two previous designs. [[User:Nikkie2571|Nikkie2571]] ([[User talk:Nikkie2571|talk]]) 19:27, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

{{indent}}May I remind everyone what abcboy said in his comment: "If/when the Kotobukiya figurine gets released by TPCi in English, this decision will be reevaluated." Any sort of poll or discussion is moot. Until the figure gets '''released''' and we know what its name is (whether it'll be leaf or green), ''then'' something will be done. All this back and forth is just a pointless waste of time and effort for something that isn't going to happen until the figure gets released.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:29, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
:I don't see anything wrong with having the discussion anyways... --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 03:39, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
::Discussion about what? As far as I'm aware, the discussion of what to name this page was already resolved and ended with abcboy's comment. Any other discussion should be left to the forums.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:50, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
:::I just don't really like the idea of restricting discussion. I personally find it interesting to participate in discussions and read what others have to say. After all, that is what the talk pages are for. I don't think it would be suited towards the forums because it is about this Bulbapedia page at its core. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 04:41, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
:::@ForceFire, discussion about whether Leaf and Green are the same person, since someone decided to add a "The contents of this article have been suggested to be split into Green (game) and Leaf (game)" banner at the top of Green's page after abcboy's comment. And to be honest, my major problem with the Leaf/Green thing is why a figurine is being used for her official name, when the games should be taking precedence over supplementary materials. Back when HGSS released, it was pretty much determined that Gold would be henceforth known as Ethan, regardless of the supplementary materials, such as the game guides or instruction booklets bundled with GSC, referring to him as Gold. Similarly with Brendan, he was referred to as "Orlando" in the ORAS demo, but the name Brendan was still kept when ORAS officially released. With Selene/Elio, since neither were given names outside of internal data, which is typically inconsistent for many PCs, it was decided to use supplementary materials for the basis of both of their names. Administration more or less set a precedent that the games come first before supplementary materials, and I don't understand why this precedent isn't being followed upon with Green. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 16:19, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

I think this is not difficult to understand XD. In remake line, she was named Leaf (Gen 2 girl named Lyra in this line), and in original line, she was named Blue/Green (Gen 2 girl named Crys in this line).

She can be the same character or a different character. In some respects, the judgment of Pokemon Adventures manga is justified. Although I know that some people
don’t think so.

This page does not need to be split in my opinion. Crys/Lyra, Gold/Ethan, Elio, and Selene things already confused enough. I only want to change infobox picture to LGPE instead of continuing to use Leaf's picture.

By the way, Kotobukiya has not changed her name and continues to use it now. Leaf does exist as an official name. [[User:E9310103838|E9310103838]] ([[User talk:E9310103838|talk]]) 00:28, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
::Kris and Lyra have been confirmed to be separate characters, unlike Ethan, Elio, and Selene. Also except for the figurine, Leaf was never officially used as a name for the character. In addition, as far as I'm aware and can find, the figurine was announced as Leaf, and has yet to actually be released. Something that is announced can easily change once it's released, and also, let's not forget that the announcement came out shortly before Pikachu & Eevee, and at that point we had no confirmation that even Red or Blue were going to appear. She may've initially intended to be named "Leaf" in Pikachu & Eevee, but changed late in development, or the artist who designed the artwork for the figurine, Hitoshi Ariga, was unaware that she was going to be called Green in Pikachu & Eevee (he didn't work on Pikachu & Eevee, so this is possible), calling her Leaf, since that was the fan consensus name for her at that point. Fact of the matter, we don't know ''who'' exactly coined her Leaf, whether it was someone at Game Freak or Kotobukiya. Even so, the staff on Bulbapedia have already made precedence that the games come before any sort of supplementary material, as is the case of Ethan upon release of HGSS, and if there is nothing in the games that indicates a name, excluding internal data, as this varies for some PCs, then supplementary material should be used, as was the case with Elio and Selene. I would expect staff to be consistent on matters like this, as it reflects poorly on them, as they're backtracking on a convention they had already established. If a staff member went, "Much like Ethan in HGSS, Pikachu & Eevee establish that Leaf's official name is Green" there would probably be some people who would disagree with this, much like Ethan, but most of the people here would not be vocal about this as they are now. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 03:32, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
:::For real, somebody's going to have to ask one of the Game Freak higher-ups like Junichi Masuda if they intended for Green from Let's Go Pikachu Eevee and the player character from FRLG to be the same person. At this point, that's the only way we're going to resolve this. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 04:22, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
{{indent}}To continue to beat a dead horse, I still, after this time, think we should remove all references to the character being called "Leaf".

We know a couple of things:
* We are currently treating Green from FRLG and Green from LGPE as the same character, as we should continue to do, since we have in the past with character differences between generations with much bigger design changes and functional differences. See Elio, Selene, Blue, etc...
* Green is the name used in LGPE. There is no official name used in FRLG.
** "Leaf" was the name that Kotobukiya used prior to LGPE's release.
*** Kotobukiya figures are not the main games.
* TPCI has [[Ethan (game)|changed character names before]]. The solution was to go with the most recent name. This name change applied retroactively to games before the name change, like this article is currently NOT doing.
* In the past, Bulbapedia has prioritized information in the main games over secondary sources. Currently, this precedent is not being applied here.
* <s>Not that it matters, but this is one of the things that other Pokemon forums make fun of Bulbapedia for-- I've seen this exact debate being used as evidence of Bulbapedia's incompetency on more than one occasion.</s>

The obvious solution is to call Green by her canonical name. Besides, as I mentioned above, the article is incredibly confusing as it stands. The whole Green/Leaf debacle turned what was previously a serviceable article into kind of a jumbled mess, and one of our poorer articles, just because of a difference in name and a minor change in design. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 01:23, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

[https://www.bandai.co.jp/candy/products/2019/1000136258.html A new Leaf figure was made by Bandai], and it specifically states she is Leaf, the girl proatgonist of ''Fire Red and Leaf Green'', without mentioning Blue from ''Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee''. This is the same case as the Kotobukiya figure, [https://www.kotobukiya.co.jp/product/product-0000003255/ in the description of the final product].--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 12:58, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
:I still don't understand how any figures are relevant at all. Games always, always, always take priority and I don't see why we should ignore a long-standing precedent for a single character. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 14:28, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
::''Fire Red and Leaf Green'' actually had ''Leaf'' as internal name for her and did not give a direct name to the girl protagonist, so the figures using that name aren't against what the games state, since they specifically mention that they are representing the girl protagonist of ''Fire Red and Leaf Green''.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:16, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
:::LGPE overrides that (or at least it should, considering previous actions and precedents here on Bulbapedia). LGPE came out in 2018. FRLG came out in 2004. Remember, Gamefreak [[Ethan (game)|has changed names in the past]], and we've changed them to fit, even when referring to before the name change. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 18:35, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
::::My position has been consistent: they're two different people. The fact they have two different names is consistent with that position. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 23:06, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::Good to see that someone isn’t relying on non-canon material, i.e. figures, to support their claim. I have to ask, though: Are Ethan and Gold two separate people? After all, they had different names up until we realized that we should probably keep names consistent.

:::::Besides, the way the article is formatted, it treats Green from FRLG and Green from LGPE as the same character, as we have done with two characters who we can reasonably assume are the same based on function and appearance. Using two different names but keeping them on the same page seems just like a really shitty compromise. Why not improve the article and fix that? --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 01:45, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::I want to ask about this Gold/Ethan thing. Can someone explain to me where both names are used officially? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:47, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
::The name Ethan was first officially used during the release of HeartGold & SoulSilver. Before then, he had no official name as the Pokémon Gold instruction book called him ''Gold'' and the Pokémon Silver instruction manual referred to him as ''Silver'', but he was referred to as Gold by fans as people had taken to calling his rival Silver. In all the mangas and most other side projects, the two were referred to as Gold and Silver respectively. Outside of the manga, until Generation IV, Ethan / Gold had no official name. Silver still has no official name himself but that is a different topic. Hope this was helpful. :) ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 18:13, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
:::Yeah, thanks. Barring anything more, that means Ethan/Gold isn't comparable to Leaf/Green. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:55, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
::::For what is worth, I have the Italian Official Nintendo Player's Guide of ''Gold and Silver'', the protagonist is referred to as ''the hero'' (''L'eroe'') and the rival is referred to as ''the rival'' (''Il rivale''), so it looks like the name of the protagonist was indeed added in ''HeartGold and SoulSilver''.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 19:07, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::Alright, my bad. I guess the two pages are not comparable. My point still stands that we should remove any reference to “Leaf”— it muddles the page and I do really think we should strive for name consistency even in the lack of a precedent. I can’t think of any other page that has had this issue but my strong opinion is that for this page and for future pages we should replace older names with newer ones, even when referring to before the name change. I think I’ve made my stance and my reasoning pretty clear. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 12:16, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::Yes it is, the name "Leaf" has never been used in an official capacity by Game Freak, much like Gold. The only time "Leaf" has been used the franchise is non-canonical material, and figurines made by a different company. Even with the figurines, we don't know if Game Freak gave them the names for the characters or if they simply went with what the fans have been referring to her as over the years. Also, again, I have to ask, why the hell are '''''figurines''''' taking precedence over '''''the games''''' in the first place? Pokémon is a video game franchise, not a figurine collecting one. I get why Elio and Selene were named such after their merchandise, since it's the only names being used officially, and the placeholder names in the game data are unused since they can vary from game to game (such as Red), but why are people waiting for a figurine to be released, when the games have given her the name "Green"? [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 12:30, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::Regarding ''"why the hell are '''''figurines''''' taking precedence over '''''the games'''''"''... They are not. FRLG did not give its female PC any name. So, this figure that is specifically referring to FRLG becomes that PC's most canon name.
:::::::Regarding ''"for future pages we should replace older names with newer ones, even when referring to before the name change"''... That's not our policy. We still refer to the [[Dowsing Machine]] as the Itemfinder for the early games. We have, for both Dowsing Machine and Green, moved both pages to use the newer names, but those older names are still to be used for the games they belong to. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:06, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::::No offense, but I find that policy silly and confusing. This article is already convoluted as it is with the whole Green/Leaf debacle, this potentially sets a very dangerous precedent for future articles. Besides, “Itemfinder” was an actual name used in a game. There are no scenarios in which a player will encounter the name “Leaf” in game without setting it for themselves. And that’s not even touching upon the dubious canonicity of the name “Leaf” in general. Green’s “most canon name” IS Green, FRLG or LGPE, because that’s the only name that’s ever been used in a game to describe her. That’s like saying that Red’s name in RBY isn’t Red because he wasn’t called that until GSC.

::::::::The figurines are just as relevant to FRLG as any manuals calling Ethan “Gold” are to GSC. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 15:56, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh, and just one little note: the Dowsing Machine page doesn't say "Dowsing Machine/Itemfinder" in the infobox. Not that the two are comparable. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 21:47, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::::::As above, Ethan/Gold is not comparable to Green/Leaf here. Nor is Red. Red was established by clear story continuity in future games (and remained very consistent); Green does not have any line of story continuity back to FRLG. They are not the same. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:24, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::::As above, the manuals in Ethan/Gold are just as relevant to GSC than the figures for Green/Leaf are to FRLG. Actually, I take that back; they're MORE relevant-- the manuals are included with the games themselves, whereas the figures (in other words, not connected to the games) are made by another company. I guess you're right in that the two pages are not comparable, because this situation is somehow more nonsensical. I don't understand how figures being made by another company are pertinent at all to this discussion.

:::::::::::"Red was established by clear story continuity in future games (and remained very consistent); Green does not have any line of story continuity back to FRLG." This point makes the least sense. If, by some weird decision at Gamefreak, they decided to call Red "Ash" or "Frank" or something in SM, would we still use "Red" for pre-SM because there's "no continuity between the games"?

:::::::::::And again, unlike Red, the name "Leaf" has NEVER been used in the games, only in noncanon materials. How it is still relevant at all is beyond me. There is, however, a name that HAS been used in the games, and people keep coming up with ridiculous, half-assed loopholes to write it off. I'm sorry for being so passionate but it's incredibly frustrating to me that common sense is being thrown out the window for this. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 00:35, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::::::::You agreed above that "the two pages are not comparable". I thought perhaps you had just forgotten but now you're doubling down on trying to wave Ethan/Gold around. I'm super confused by your flip-flopping.
::::::::::::Your "Frank" hypothetical, for all you may mean it to be absurd, has already been answered. Just as we use ItemFinder for the games ''that'' was used in, if GameFreak established a discontinuity and appeared to change "Red"'s name, we'd keep using Red for the games ''that'' was used in. Just as we still use {{m|Faint Attack}} and [[List of modified moves#Name changes|others]]. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:09, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
{{indent}}When I say “I guess you’re right in that the two pages are not comparable”, I was mostly using that for comedic effect, as indicated by the following words. I do think they are similar scenarios but the fact that people are still insisting on using “Green” I think is far more ridiculous, hence the comedic “not comparable.” Sorry for the confusion. Maybe I’m just not good at sarcasm. I’ll try to mark it clearly in the future.

I’ve already explained my counterpoint to that last part. Player character names are, by design, not set in stone. There will never be a player who encounters the name “Leaf” in normal gameplay without explicitly setting it for themselves. In contrast, a player would see the words Itemfinder and Faint Attack in game. I’ve explained this before and I shouldn’t need to again. The same logic can not be applied. I admit that I should not have picked Red for my example, as Red has appeared in a game before. Let’s try a different example— if Nate appeared in a future game with a different name, would we change prior names to fit? I’d hope so, personally.

Again... why is a figure relevant at all in the face of an official name? Perhaps if it were a manual it would be different. /s

By the way, I think I’m allowed to change my opinion on something, or “flip-flop” if you will, if someone brings up a point I didn’t think of, as Sinjoh has. But by now I’m pretty set that yeah, the scenarios on Ethan and Green are pretty damn comparable. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 02:28, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
:I'm going to pause for a moment after only understanding your first line, because I can only suppose that your fervor has made you completely forget something from under a day ago. I'll leave this (the thing I was referring to and the reason for me being "super confused") here and I'd like to know what your response is when we're hopefully both clear. [[Special:Diff/2996403]]
:[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:53, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
::I have now slept and my position is still exactly the same. Please reread my last line.

::I thought they were similar initially, then Frozen Fennec pointed out something that I didn’t realize, so I changed my mind, then Sinjoh pointed out something I didn’t realize, so I changed my mind. I’m allowed to do that if somebody brings up a point that didn’t occur to me. Besides, it barely affected the content of my argument— my position was still the same. I fail to see why it was worth bringing up in the first place, let alone twice. I think my response was pretty clear about it the first time.

::Now can we stop using ad hominems against my wishywashiness or anything else to tiptoe around the actual issue? --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 13:16, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
:::I'm not attacking you for changing your mind. I'm only saying exactly what I said...you incredibly confused me because you didn't acknowledge changing your position or give any reasons. You just looked inconsistent. (That said, I can't tell what you took from Frozen Fennec since they haven't commented since the response I linked from you.)
:::Perhaps I can approach this Ethan and Green thing a little differently. My position is, the FRLG female PC has an official name and so does the LGPE female PC...while the GSC male PC has no official name and the HGSS male PC does. I.e., FRLG/LGPE and GSC/HGSS are not the same. When you say that FRLG/LGPE (Leaf/Green) and GSC/HGSS (Gold/Ethan) are the same, I hear that you think the GSC male PC's official name was Gold...is that correct? (At the risk of saying more than necessary, please answer that last question first and foremost. My position is very secondary, I'm trying to understand yours at the moment.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:42, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
::::Wow, the section has gotten much longer since I last responded. I do want to try adding in some more thoughts to the matter. Sinjoh noted that "Leaf" had never been used or acknowledged as a name but Sugimori teased on Twitter back in 2011 that it is ''maybe'' her official name despite the only other notable things giving her a name were the manga and even then, those were inconsistent as you had two characters based on her named Green and later, Blue. Green, Red, Fire, and Leaf were also all possible default names for her as well in Generation III. I imagine Sugimori stating it was ''maybe'' her name at the time did not help either. I think the ONLY thing that could really be seen as similar at the time is that Leaf / Green and Gold / Ethan both had manga counterparts and was most likely where a lot of people started to pick up calling those two ''Leaf'' and ''Gold'' respectively. Leaf can also be stated to be used ''in-game'' to some capacity if you count that Leaf is the default name given to her in the internal data of the game as has been stated numerous times earlier in the game. I imagine I am probably adding some confusion to this article's talk page and I do apoligize for that.

::::As for a page split which I cannot seem to find any discussion of, I would be ok leaving it as one page for now. If anything, roughly 90% of this page over the past 10 or so years has been nothing but a discussion over whether or not she should be called Leaf or Green. I would modify the header at the top of the page to note that Green / Leaf is called ''Leaf'' by default in the game's internal data to lessen confusion and possibly prevent creating a far longer discussion over her actual name in the long run. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 14:45, 9 July 2019 (UTC
:::::Tiddlywinks, thanks for clarifying. I don’t think that GSC Ethan’s official name is Gold and I definitely don’t think that page should be changed. I’m just extremely confused on how the Pokémon Gold manual isn’t relevant (which I agree with) and a figure is. If we’re applying a line of logic to Ethan we should apply the same logic to Green. I keep bringing up Gold because i think it’s a very good comparison to highlight the disparity of policies used, not to show my own opinions.

:::::To answer your position as concisely as I can: I think that GSC Ethan being called Gold is as official as FRLG Green being called Leaf. Being not much. That’s my stance. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 16:43, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::Then there's the other thing. We're not ignoring the manuals. But going off the details FrozenFennec gave, they gave him different names. If he was Gold (or Joe or whatever) in both, then yeah, we could take that as his name. But since that doesn't seem to be the case...well, we can't prefer one manual and just brush the other aside either. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:23, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::I feel like this is getting into more of a difference of opinions on policies, which I don't really want to get into. I believe that if he was given a different but consistent name in the manuals, then we should still call him Ethan in GSC contexts. One character, one name. But if you really wanted to go that route, then the solution consistent to the Green page would be to use Gold{{sup/2|G}}/Silver{{sup/2|S}} in GSC contexts. (Which, for clarity, is absolutely not what I'm suggesting we do.)

:::::::I still feel like figures are not a reliable source to use for names in the face of an existing name in the games, regardless of which games each name replies to. Merch made by other companies, IMO, is scraping the bottom of the barrel for information, and should really only done if there's a lack of official name, like for Elio and Selene.

:::::::Speaking of Elio and Selene, don't those names only apply to Sun and Moon too, as per the statement for the Kotobukiya figure, and not USUM? Why do we refer to them as Elio and Selene for USUM contexts, but we don't refer to Green as...well, Green for FRLG contexts?

:::::::It seems to me that there are just so many loopholes required to justify not just calling the female player from FRLG by the canon name that they've given her. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 22:55, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::::Fact: we're not going to use a name from later for anything that has an official name in a previous generation. This is very simple. These things MUST be immediately recognizable to anyone playing those games. If a game calls a character Alice but in a remake 5 years later she was called Eve, if someone's playing the first game and they're trying to figure something out here, referring to Eve will just make them wonder, "Who the hell is Eve? This seems like where I am but I don't know her so when is this, then? And why isn't there anything about Alice?" That's not OK.
::::::::(If you want to explain something and then say you don't want that...then I think I'm just going to forego any comment on it. Separately: if you have an issue with Elio and Selene specifically, I suggest taking that to a different talk page.)
::::::::The lack of an official name in the '''specific''' context of FRLG makes the figure merch just as acceptable as for Elio and Selene. While you may think that this cannot hold a candle to a name in a remake later...the short version is that we simply do not agree with you. I have tried explaining the logic; you're denigrating the values. There's not really a lot of persuasion to exercise there. (If you want to seriously accept our values and explain how you think that we should do X for some page if we really want Green's page like this (and if we don't want that then we need to fix Green), we can explore that. But I think you've said it: there is a part of this about opinions that will simply bear no fruit.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:34, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::I've been reluctant to take part in this discussion, but I think right now may be a good moment to add something. If I understood corectly, the lack of an in-game name and therefore usage of a merch name for Green/Leaf in FRLG is comparable to the situation of Elio and Selene in SM and USUM. Also, it appears to me that the names Elio and Selene were given in the context of Sun and Moon specifically and later extended to USUM. So, hypothetically, let's say that both Elio and Selene appeared in USUM as NPCs and were given different names in those games (say, Rick and Cindy). In this situation, how would we deal with the names of those characters? Would Rick and Cindy be used widely, since they had no in-game names before that (and considering that they are the same characters as in Sun and Moon), or would we still call them Elio and Selene when referring to Sun and Moon?
:::::::::I'd like you people to try to picture this situation I described unbiased, so maybe we can extend whatever answer it receives to Green/Leaf as well. And if my logic has any flaws, please point them out, but still try to picure that scenario. [[User:Suic12-|Suic]] ([[User talk:Suic12-|talk]]) 02:10, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::::::To Suic: I would hope that Bulbapedia would only use Rick and Cindy, even when referring to Sun and Moon contexts. They'd never appeared as NPCs before, only as characters named by the player, and the names were essentially made "official" by the Kotobukiya figures. Which I believe is only valid here because there is an absense of anything better.

::::::::::To Tiddlywinks:

::::::::::Calling Kotobukiya calling her "Leaf" "official" is incredibly shaky. And I doubt the average user or FRLG player is going to see the name "Green" and think "well, who the hell is that?" anymore than they would with the name "Leaf". By trying to be "immediately recognizable" we are making this article more confusing, ironically.

::::::::::I don't have an issue with Elio or Selene's pages. I have an issue with the fact that those pages are following one line of logic and this one isn't. I guess my examples are going over your head. If they're legitimately confusing to you, then I'll also "forego any comment on it".

::::::::::If this is the policy for the future, that figures trump games as long as it's not the EXACT SAME game, then I will say that I strongly disagree, and that it goes against established Bulbapedia values, and is only going to lead to further confusion, but ultimately, since an average Bulbapedia user like myself has practically zero say over anything that happens, I'm not gonna continue to push to improve this article after now. In my experience, Bulbapedia, specifically the moderator team, has always been weird about things that should be common sense but this is definitely the worst of it-- we've made so many loopholes that we've tangled and knotted our reasoning. I'll say it as concisely as I can-- this policy and, as a result, this page, is ridiculous and shitty.

::::::::::I do realize that my opinions "don't bear fruit", like you said, and I think that that's the most saddening part about this whole scenario. The fact that there's a policy that I feel is unfair and dangerous, and I have nothing that I, as a non-moderator, can do about it.

::::::::::I have nothing more to say on the matter. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 02:24, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::::You're mixing issues when you propose that people wouldn't be confused by "Green" in the context of FRLG. You may think it's confusing but it's following strict policy (that I've explained more than once above) which we will not change. This may be an extreme case of that policy, but that itself is not enough reason to modify the policy or invalidate the name.
:::::::::::Regarding Elio/Selene, let me put it this way (again). If you want to explore how Leaf/Green means we should do something else with Elio/Selene, we can talk. Right now, all I hear is, "This is a problem for Elio/Selene--and you should be able to understand that--so you should invalidate Leaf/Green." Again: give details about what Leaf/Green should mean for other things. (As far as I'm concerned, this wouldn't need to be accompanied by "...So that means Leaf/Green sucks!" But I won't try to force that right now.)
:::::::::::Regarding the "Rick/Cindy" hypothetical... I think *I* would suggest handling it like Leaf/Green. (But...if you're trying to create a new situation, you should know that not everything in the real world has a ready answer. The final answer comes when it's needed.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:16, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
{{indent}}What I was trying to do was to make sure we would have a consistent way to handle a situation of this kind. Of course I know there is not a ready answer, but still sometimes it's important to stop and think about how we are handling things.

Without placing my opinion, right now I guess what we have is something like "a character's name is only valid for the game(s) in which the name appears, and a different source should be used for the name in the game(s) in which said character is not named".

Now, let me point out I'm not saying that what I just wrote should be final. Instead, I think we should elaborate that statement (thinking of all implications, but without creating unnecessary exceptions) so we can use it as a standard for all situations.

So, Tiddlywinks, can we try to elaborate a statement like that as a guideline? It would simplify a lot the situation and avoid most debates about whether or not the rules or policies are being followed for one or another character. Of course I also understand that something like this would probably also need to be aproved by the rest of the staff. [[User:Suic12-|Suic]] ([[User talk:Suic12-|talk]]) 13:49, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
:I feel like a policy like that is fine but I still strongly think that using figures as a source is dubious if there’s other things to go off of. We have no idea the level of communication that Kotobukiya has with Gamefreak. If “Leaf” ever appears in a game to describe her then sure. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 16:25, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
::I hate to continue to add on but this has been on my mind for the past couple of days... If Kotobukiya or Bandai or whoever were to release figures that said "Fire, the male player character from FRLG" or "Terry, the rival from FRLG," would we change those names on those pages for those games? --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 22:03, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
:::Your specific mention of "Fire" is interesting because, in addition to being the obvious game-name counterpart to "Leaf", it was a common Japanese fan name for remake Red. If a figure were to actually use "Fire" for remake Red, it would ''completely destroy'' my argument. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 08:38, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
::::Needless to say, the Bandai figures [https://www.bandai.co.jp/candy/products/2019/45496604549660000.html use ''Red'' as name of Red] and [https://www.bandai.co.jp/candy/products/2019/1000136260.html ''Green'' as name of Green] (Blue in the West). Incidentally, both the Green and Prof. Oak's figures reconfirm that these Bandai figures are themed after ''Pokémon Fire Red and Leaf Green'', again limiting the scope of what they are portraying. After all, this kind of licensed material needs approval from the owners of the Pokémon IP (typically, [[The Pokémon Company]]), it can be expected that they perform some checks on relevant details of IP such as name, basic bio and appearance. It's an official figure, not a fan-made one. In any case, the name ''Leaf'' being used in internal data to refer to the female protagonist of ''Fire Red and Leaf Green'' means that Game Freak named her ''Leaf'' internally, it has never been just a fan name or an arbitrary name to begin with.

::::Furthermore, we still don't know the full details of the connection between Green and Leaf. Considering how ''Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee'' are explicitly a remake of ''Yellow'', they are not forced to connect with ''Fire Red and Leaf Green'', not to say that they feature an alternate timeline, where especially Red has a different role. The design of Green is not just influenced by that of Leaf, she also resembles the female character on the cover of the Nintendo Official Guidebook of ''Red, Green and Blue''. Regarding the latter character, Sugimori said that [https://twitter.com/super_32x/status/269847118754217986 he was a little conscious of her when designing the female protagonist of ''Fire Red and Leaf Green''], which again points out how the relationship between Green from ''Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee'' and Leaf from ''Fire Red and Leaf Green'' might be more complex than we think.

::::In any case, the descriptions of both the figures of Leaf explicitly mention how the character portrayed is the female protagonist of ''Fire Red and Leaf Green'', Blue/Green from ''Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee'' is never called into question, therefore these figures strictly aren't against the games they are explicitly referring to.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 22:39, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::(I was hoping nobody would actually use this point, but alas.) Internal data is practically completely irrelevant. They use all sorts of random names for internal data, such as the aforementioned Terry, as well as Kai and Lana for Elio and Selene respectively, or Ninten for Red in RBY... I could go on.

:::::I’m aware that Red and Blue both have figures already. But that didn’t answer my question. If for whatever reason they called them Fire and Terry, using the same phrasing that they do for Green from FRLG, would we use those names for FRLG only? No, obviously. It defies common sense to let figures control Pokémon canon so strongly. But that’s what we’re doing here.

:::::If anyone legitimately believes that if Kotobukiya called Red “Fire” for FRLG, then we should change it there, then I really don’t know what to say. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 03:18, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::Red has a consistent name that since Gen II, Blue has a consistent name since Gen II. If a figure gave them different names, then we're going to ignore it because that is not the names they consistently had before. Leaf never had a consistent name until to Kotobukiya figure. Kotobuyika has consistently been calling the FRLG design of the character Leaf, hence why "we're holding the figure so highly".
::::::The name Green has only been used for the LGPE design of the character, not the FRLG one. And whether they are the same character is another thing. There is nothing saying that they are the same. Their clothes sharing similar colors is not proof, that could be chalked up as a reference. I don't follow the manga, so I'm not too sure about that, but the character existed before the FRLG design did.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:25, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::Wow, this is the biggest loophole we’ve seen so far.... so you’re saying that we should apply different logic to Red than to Green just because Green hadn’t shown up until later? So much for the strict policies that Tiddlywinks was advocating for and using to defend their argument.

:::::::I am absolutely dumbfounded that we’re still deliberating over whether they’re the same character or not. It’s common sense. Extremely similar outfit, similar function in game (it only makes sense that the female player character from FRLG would appear alongside the male player character from FRLG as NPCS). Honestly, I’m amazed (and pleasantly surprised) that nobody has legitimately suggested that Elio from SM and USUM are different characters, or really any pair of the same character with much more drastic design differences than the flipping of two colors and the omission of a hat. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 12:18, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::::Red and Green don't have different logic. If a character has no name in a game, and has not had a name in a previous game, we may accept a name that pops up.
::::::::There's just no breating room to change Red's name because it has a very long history that doesn't have an "opening" like Green did (not to mention being so consistent). Green only received a name for LGPE, so FRLG was still iffy...and a figure popped up to fill that in.
::::::::We're not changing names willy-nilly like you fear. If you want to worry about anyone, Ethan is probably the only other PC who has a similar hole as Green.
::::::::And I can't speak for ForceFire, but the decision as staff has been that Leaf/Green are the same character, which is why they're on the same page. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:50, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::Why did the staff make this decision? Do {{tt|they|Using 'they' instead of 'you' to avoid ambiguity between singular/plural 'you'}} have evidence that Leaf/Green are confirmed the same that us non-staff have overlooked? [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 09:28, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
{{indent}}While I agree that they are the same character, since the article was renamed Green I think the article should consistently call her Green. The reference to her old name Leaf should go to the Trivia section. {{ga|Ethan}}'s page consistently called him Ethan and didn't switch to Gold for Generation 2 contexts. So a figure called her Leaf. After a TFG figure called {{ga|Brendan}} "Landon," should we have figures as reliable sources to canon names? Especially a Japan-exclusive figure that doesn't release until September? As I recall, [[Gold (game)]] was only moved to [[Ethan (game)]] on the North American release date of HeartGold and SoulSilver. His page was never Hibiki (game) when the Japanese version was out. And if it turns out we have to split Leaf from Green, it's only a matter of using a Find/Replace function. But anyway, the thing that should settle this debate once and for all is Green's appearance in [[Pokémon Masters]] using her FireRed/LeafGreen design. We don't have confirmation yet, so we could wait. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 04:03, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
:''Masters'' is already likely to name [[Silver (game)|two]] [[Kris (game)|characters]] and has reconfirmed [[Barry (game)|a third]], so it wouldn't be unthinkable for it to resolve this debate as well. (Red and Blue have their designs taken from HGSS, so the same would apply to Leaf/Green as well.) [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 07:28, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
::So what did Masters call her? [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 02:00, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
:::Five months? Talk about cutting it close on this bump. The article calls her Leaf in the context of Pokémon Masters, so maybe Pokémon Masters calls her Leaf? Or is it just like how we've been calling her Leaf for years and Masters didn't name her? I'd like to know how Vmario97 got that sprite. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 03:04, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

== Article Layout ==
I move to begin the article with a section on the unused Generation I character before segueing into information about Green and Leaf. Any objections? [[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 08:07, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
:I'd be fine with that. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 13:05, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
::This page is kind of a mess and I want to try and make it more organized, clean it up a little. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 10:18, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
:::It's already in the trivia section. And the prototype character is '''not''' Green, Green is inspired by that prototype, but that does not mean the prototype is Green herself.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:27, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
::::I think we should move it up from the trivia section to the front of the page. It's pretty pertinent. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 10:37, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
::::While ForceFire noted they are not the same, I feel it is fine being left in the trivia. It is A)Not the same character, B)a character which inspired Green's design. Most other pages with notable beta content related to them are just stuck into trivia as they are not something you would see during normal gameplay at all. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 15:43, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
:::::May I ask how they are not all the same? (that is, how they are not all versions of the same character in different alternative universes (as each game sort of exists in its own alternative universe)) [[User:CherubAgent1440|CherubAgent1440]] ([[User talk:CherubAgent1440|talk]]) 13:46, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Talk:List of cross-generational evolutionary lines

2019-12-19T06:23:35Z

SeanWheeler: /* Galar Evolutions */

Talk:List of cross-generational evolutionary lines

2019-12-19T04:44:41Z

SeanWheeler: /* Galar Evolutions */

==Sprites to official art?==
Considering the switch from sprites to art in the evolution sections, should we use the art instead of sprites on this page as well? - [[User:050294|050294]] ([[User talk:050294|talk]]) 03:59, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
:I think we should, for consistency's sake. {{unsigned|WyndFox}}
::Staff approved. I'm editing it now.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:43, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

== Porygon Trivia ==

Sorry the wording might be a bit poor, but I definitely think it is note-worthy since no other Pokemon has ever had an evolution introduced that could evolve yet again in another generation. It might even be prudent to add this trivia to Porygon's page, but I'll see how it fairs here first. [[User:Swiftgallade46|Swiftgallade46]] ([[User talk:Swiftgallade46|talk]]) 02:31, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

== Mega evolutions? + request ==

First post here. I feel like it's necessary that this page include mega-evolutions as well. Could someone (anyone), with more editing creds include the mega evolutions, like the Charizardites?

I've tried editing pages before, but usually mess up, and someone has to fix it for me, or they just erase my changes. {{unsigned|Camelsnake}}
:Bulbapedia does not consider Mega Evolutions to be the same thing as evolutions. The word "evolution" in their name is the only thing they have in common; they are totally different both in game function and in flavor text/lore. Mega Evolved Pokémon do not belong on this page. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:16, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

== Galar Evolutions ==

Its been about a few weeks since Sword and Shield came out, and was wondering if we could get this page edited to have the generation 8 pokemon that got evolutions via Galar forms {{unsigned|Burgorton}}
:It's already been updated. Only the ones that go from regular to regional forms should count, as they go from Gen I (or IV in Mime Jr.'s case) design to Gen VIII design, rather than Gen VIII to Gen VIII.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:46, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
::I think all regional forms should be included in this list even if we need to move the page to something like List of cross-generational evolution families. IMO, the Rattata family received new members in Generation VII just as much as the Exeggcute family did.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:27, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
:::I don't think we should count Alolan forms and Galarian forms as new Pokémon. They have the same numbers as their original forms. Alolan {{p|Exeggutor}} is still a Kantonian Pokémon as far as the National Dex is concerned. And this page treating Galarian forms as Gen VIII Pokémon meant it excludes {{p|Obstagoon}} and {{p|Sirfetch'd}}, which were two advertised cross-generation evolutions for Sword and Shield. And besides, the methods of evolving these Pokémon into their Alolan and Galarian forms are the same methods as normal. Pikachu evolves into both kinds of Raichu with a Thunderstone. It just has to be in Alola to be the Psychic-type. Exeggcute evolves into Exeggutor with a Leaf Stone anywhere. It just gets a longer neck in Alola. Alolan Marowak has an extra requirement to be nighttime but I don't think that qualifies as a crossgen evolution. Weezing gets a new form in Galar, but Koffing evolves into it at level 35 the same as the Kantonian Weezing. These regional variants do not belong on this page unless they are the forms required to evolve into Obstagoon, Sirfetch'd, Mr. Rime and Cursola. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 04:40, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
The only problem with this is that Alolan Formes are still recognized as simply forms of the original pokemon, despite certain things such as different ways of evolution. Let's Go proves this by having all Alolan forms return since they are kanto pokemon. Galar Evolutions also do not have their own page, and it would be excessive not to put them on this page. {{unsigned|Burgorton}}
{{indent}}Yeah, we should just treat the Galar forms and Alolan forms as the original Pokémon. The black and white Zigzagoon that evolves into Obstagoon in Galar is still a Gen III Hoenn Pokémon in a new form. Obstagoon is a Gen VIII Galar Pokémon. That's a cross generational evolution. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 04:44, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

== Mr. Rime ==

Sure it evolves from a Galar Pokémon, but it still is a part of a crossgenerational family. That's like saying we should remove Oddish from this article because it evolves into a Kanto Pokémon. [[User:Mr. Daikon|Mr. Daikon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Daikon|talk]]) 05:29, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Talk:List of cross-generational evolutionary lines

2019-12-17T04:40:55Z

SeanWheeler: /* Galar Evolutions */

List of cross-generational evolutionary lines

2019-11-12T03:32:11Z

SeanWheeler: Regional variants are not evolutions.

<div style="clear: right; float:right">__TOC__</div>
This is a list of Pokémon that [[Evolution|evolve]] into a Pokémon originating from a different [[generation]]. For example, {{p|Pichu}} (a [[Generation II]] Pokémon) evolves into {{p|Pikachu}} (a [[Generation I]] Pokémon).

A few of these Pokémon, as a result of new evolutions, become a part of evolutionary families with [[List of Pokémon with branched evolutions|branched evolutions]]. Pokémon which evolve into a Pokémon of a previous generation, instead of from it, are always [[baby Pokémon]].

Later generations have modified old families by introducing [[regional variant]]s of older Pokémon adapted for life in different regions. Certain families entirely consist of variant forms while others share an unevolved state before diversifying, much like a branched evolution. Certain Pokémon will only evolve from a specific regional variant and, therefore, have no counterpart.

==[[Kanto]]-based evolution families==

===Pikachu family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Baby form|image=172Pichu.png|name=Pichu}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Friendship|image=025Pikachu.png|name=Pikachu}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Thunder Stone|image=026Raichu.png|name=Raichu}}
|}

===Clefairy family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Baby|image=173Cleffa.png|name=Cleffa}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Friendship|image=035Clefairy.png|name=Clefairy}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Moon Stone|image=036Clefable.png|name=Clefable}}
|}

===Jigglypuff family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Baby|image=174Igglybuff.png|name=Igglybuff}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Friendship|image=039Jigglypuff.png|name=Jigglypuff}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Moon Stone|image=040Wigglytuff.png|name=Wigglytuff}}
|}

===Zubat family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=041Zubat.png|name=Zubat}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Level 22|image=042Golbat.png|name=Golbat}}
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Friendship|image=169Crobat.png|name=Crobat}}
|}

===Oddish family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| rowspan="2" | {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=043Oddish.png|name=Oddish}}
| rowspan="2" | {{Chart Box|I|text=Level 21|image=044Gloom.png|name=Gloom}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Leaf Stone|image=045Vileplume.png|name=Vileplume}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Sun Stone|image=182Bellossom.png|name=Bellossom}}
|}

===Poliwag family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| rowspan="2" | {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=060Poliwag.png|name=Poliwag}}
| rowspan="2" | {{Chart Box|I|text=Level 25|image=061Poliwhirl.png|name=Poliwhirl}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Water Stone|image=062Poliwrath.png|name=Poliwrath}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Trade with King's Rock|image=186Politoed.png|name=Politoed}}
|}

===Slowpoke family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| rowspan="2" | {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=079Slowpoke.png|name=Slowpoke}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Level 37|image=080Slowbro.png|name=Slowbro}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Trade with King's Rock|image=199Slowking.png|name=Slowking}}
|}

===Magnemite family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=081Magnemite.png|name=Magnemite}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Level 30|image=082Magneton.png|name=Magneton}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Level up in a special magnetic field|image=462Magnezone.png|name=Magnezone}}
|}

===Farfetch'd family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=083Farfetch'd.png|name=Farfetch'd}}
| {{Chart Box|VIII|text=In Galar|image=Sirfetch'd.png|name=Sirfetch'd}}
|}

===Onix family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=095Onix.png|name=Onix}}
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Trade with Metal Coat|image=208Steelix.png|name=Steelix}}
|}

===[[Hitmons]]===
{| style="margin: auto"
| rowspan="3" | {{Chart Box|II|text=Baby|image=236Tyrogue.png|name=Tyrogue}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Level 20 (Attack > Defense)|image=106Hitmonlee.png|name=Hitmonlee}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Level 20 (Attack < Defense)|image=107Hitmonchan.png|name=Hitmonchan}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Level 20 (Attack = Defense)|image=237Hitmontop.png|name=Hitmontop}}
|}

===Lickitung family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=108Lickitung.png|name=Lickitung}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Level up with Rollout|image=463Lickilicky.png|name=Lickilicky}}
|}

===Rhyhorn family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=111Rhyhorn.png|name=Rhyhorn}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Level 42|image=112Rhydon.png|name=Rhydon}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Trade with Protector|image=464Rhyperior.png|name=Rhyperior}}
|}

===Chansey family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Baby|image=440Happiny.png|name=Happiny}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Level up with Oval Stone|image=113Chansey.png|name=Chansey}}
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Friendship|image=242Blissey.png|name=Blissey}}
|}

===Tangela family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=114Tangela.png|name=Tangela}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Level up with Ancient Power|image=465Tangrowth.png|name=Tangrowth}}
|}

===Horsea family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=116Horsea.png|name=Horsea}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Level 32|image=117Seadra.png|name=Seadra}}
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Trade with Dragon Scale|image=230Kingdra.png|name=Kingdra}}
|}

===Mr. Mime family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Baby|image=439Mime Jr.png|name=Mime Jr.}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Level up with Mimic|image=122Mr. Mime.png|name=Mr. Mime}}
|}

===Scyther family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=123Scyther.png|name=Scyther}}
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Trade with Metal Coat|image=212Scizor.png|name=Scizor}}
|}

===Jynx family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Baby|image=238Smoochum.png|name=Smoochum}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Level 30|image=124Jynx.png|name=Jynx}}
|}

===Electabuzz family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Baby|image=239Elekid.png|name=Elekid}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Level 30|image=125Electabuzz.png|name=Electabuzz}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Trade with Electirizer|image=466Electivire.png|name=Electivire}}
|}

===Magmar family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Baby|image=240Magby.png|name=Magby}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Level 30|image=126Magmar.png|name=Magmar}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Trade with Magmarizer|image=467Magmortar.png|name=Magmortar}}
|}

===[[Eeveelution]]s===
{| style="margin: auto"
| rowspan="8" | {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=133Eevee.png|name=Eevee}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Water Stone|image=134Vaporeon.png|name=Vaporeon}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Thunder Stone|image=135Jolteon.png|name=Jolteon}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Fire Stone|image=136Flareon.png|name=Flareon}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Friendship (Day) Sun Shard|image=196Espeon.png|name=Espeon}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Friendship (Night) Moon Shard|image=197Umbreon.png|name=Umbreon}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Level up at Moss Rock|image=470Leafeon.png|name=Leafeon}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Level up at Ice Rock|image=471Glaceon.png|name=Glaceon}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|VI|text=Level up with 2 Affection and a Fairy-type move|image=700Sylveon.png|name=Sylveon}}
|}

===Porygon family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Unevolved|image=137Porygon.png|name=Porygon}}
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Trade with Up-Grade|image=233Porygon2.png|name=Porygon2}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Trade with Dubious Disc|image=474Porygon-Z.png|name=Porygon-Z}}
|}

===Snorlax family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Baby|image=446Munchlax.png|name=Munchlax}}
| {{Chart Box|I|text=Friendship|image=143Snorlax.png|name=Snorlax}}
|}

==[[Johto]]-based evolution families==
===Togepi family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Baby|image=175Togepi.png|name=Togepi}}
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Friendship|image=176Togetic.png|name=Togetic}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Shiny Stone|image=468Togekiss.png|name=Togekiss}}
|}

===Marill family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|III|text=Baby|image=298Azurill.png|name=Azurill}}
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Friendship|image=183Marill.png|name=Marill}}
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Level 18|image=184Azumarill.png|name=Azumarill}}
|}

===Sudowoodo family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Baby|image=438Bonsly.png|name=Bonsly}}
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Level up with Mimic|image=185Sudowoodo.png|name=Sudowoodo}}
|}

===Aipom family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Unevolved|image=190Aipom.png|name=Aipom}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Level up with Double Hit|image=424Ambipom.png|name=Ambipom}}
|}

===Yanma family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Unevolved|image=193Yanma.png|name=Yanma}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Level up with Ancient Power|image=469Yanmega.png|name=Yanmega}}
|}

===Murkrow family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Unevolved|image=198Murkrow.png|name=Murkrow}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Dusk Stone|image=430Honchkrow.png|name=Honchkrow}}
|}

===Misdreavus family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Unevolved|image=200Misdreavus.png|name=Misdreavus}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Dusk Stone|image=429Mismagius.png|name=Mismagius}}
|}

===Wobbuffet family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|III|text=Baby|image=360Wynaut.png|name=Wynaut}}
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Level 15|image=202Wobbuffet.png|name=Wobbuffet}}
|}

===Gligar family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Unevolved|image=207Gligar.png|name=Gligar}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Level up with Razor Fang (Night)|image=472Gliscor.png|name=Gliscor}}
|}

===Sneasel family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Unevolved|image=215Sneasel.png|name=Sneasel}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Level up with Razor Claw (Night)|image=461Weavile.png|name=Weavile}}
|}

===Swinub family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Unevolved|image=220Swinub.png|name=Swinub }}
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Level 33|image=221Piloswine.png|name=Piloswine}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Level up with Ancient Power|image=473Mamoswine.png|name=Mamoswine}}
|}

===Mantine family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Baby|image=458Mantyke.png|name=Mantyke}}
| {{Chart Box|II|text=Level up with Remoraid in party|image=226Mantine.png|name=Mantine}}
|}

==[[Hoenn]]-based evolution families==
===Zigzagoon family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|III|text=Unevolved|image=263Zigzagoon-Galar.png|name=Zigzagoon}}
| {{Chart Box|III|text=Level 20|image=264Linoone-Galar.png|name=Linoone}}
| {{Chart Box|VIII|text=Unknown|image=Obstagoon.png|name=Obstagoon}}
|}

===Ralts family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| rowspan="2" | {{Chart Box|III|text=Unevolved|image=280Ralts.png|name=Ralts}}
| rowspan="2" | {{Chart Box|III|text=Level 20|image=281Kirlia.png|name=Kirlia}}
| {{Chart Box|III|text=Level 30|image=282Gardevoir.png|name=Gardevoir}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Dawn Stone (male)|image=475Gallade.png|name=Gallade}}
|}

===Nosepass family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|III|text=Unevolved|image=299Nosepass.png|name=Nosepass}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Level up in a special magnetic field|image=476Probopass.png|name=Probopass}}
|}

===Roselia family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Baby|image=406Budew.png|name=Budew}}
| {{Chart Box|III|text=Friendship (Day)|image=315Roselia.png|name=Roselia}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Shiny Stone|image=407Roserade.png|name=Roserade}}
|}

===Duskull family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|III|text=Unevolved|image=355Duskull.png|name=Duskull}}
| {{Chart Box|III|text=Level 37|image=356Dusclops.png|name=Dusclops}}
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Trade with Reaper Cloth|image=477Dusknoir.png|name=Dusknoir}}
|}

===Chimecho family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Baby|image=433Chingling.png|name=Chingling}}
| {{Chart Box|III|text=Friendship (Night)|image=358Chimecho.png|name=Chimecho}}
|}

===Snorunt family===
{| style="margin: auto"
| rowspan="2" | {{Chart Box|III|text=Unevolved|image=361Snorunt.png|name=Snorunt}}
| {{Chart Box|III|text=Level 42|image=362Glalie.png|name=Glalie}}
|-
| {{Chart Box|IV|text=Dawn Stone (female)|image=478Froslass.png|name=Froslass}}
|}

==Trivia==
* Generation IV introduced the most evolutionary relatives to Pokémon from previous generations, with 29, and Generation VI introduced the fewest evolutionary relatives to Pokémon from previous generations, with only one, {{p|Sylveon}}. The only generations that didn't introduce any new cross-generational evolutions (not counting [[regional variant]]s) are Generation V and Generation VII.
* {{p|Roselia}} is the only Pokémon to have both a pre-evolution and an evolution ({{p|Budew}} and {{p|Roserade}}, respectively) introduced in the same generation.
* {{p|Porygon}} is the only Pokémon to have an evolution introduced in a later generation that was later able to evolve once again.

==See also==
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[[Category:Lists]]
[[Category:Pokémon with cross-generational evolutions|*]]

[[it:Elenco Pokémon con evoluzioni extra-generazionali]]
[[zh:宝可梦跨世代进化列表]]

List of cross-generational evolutionary lines

2019-08-09T23:26:44Z

SeanWheeler: Alolan forms are not crossgen evolutions. Just new variants of existing Pokémon.

This is a list of Pokémon that [[Evolution|evolve]] into a Pokémon originating from a different [[generation]]. For example, {{p|Pichu}} (a [[Generation II]] Pokémon) evolves into {{p|Pikachu}} (a [[Generation I]] Pokémon).

A few of these Pokémon, as a result of new evolutions, become a part of evolutionary families with [[List of Pokémon with branched evolutions|branched evolutions]]. Those Pokémon which evolve into a Pokémon of a previous generation, instead of from it, are specifically [[baby Pokémon]].

==Pikachu family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="3" |
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Baby |
image=172Pichu.png |
name=Pichu}}
|
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Friendship |
image=025Pikachu.png |
name=Pikachu }}
|
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Thunder Stone |
image=026Raichu.png |
name=Raichu}}
|}

==Clefairy family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Baby |
image=173Cleffa.png |
name=Cleffa }}
|
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Friendship |
image=035Clefairy.png |
name=Clefairy }}
|
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Moon Stone |
image=036Clefable.png |
name=Clefable }}
|}

==Jigglypuff family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="3" |
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Baby |
image=174Igglybuff.png |
name=Igglybuff }}
|
| rowspan="2" |
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Friendship |
image=039Jigglypuff.png |
name=Jigglypuff }}
|
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Moon Stone |
image=040Wigglytuff.png |
name=Wigglytuff }}
|}

==Zubat family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="3" |
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Basic |
image=041Zubat.png |
name=Zubat }}
|
| rowspan="2" |
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Level 22 |
image=042Golbat.png |
name=Golbat }}
|
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Friendship |
image=169Crobat.png |
name=Crobat }}
|}

==Oddish family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="3" |
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Basic |
image=043Oddish.png |
name=Oddish }}
|
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Level 21 |
image=044Gloom.png |
name=Gloom }}
|
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Leaf Stone |
image=045Vileplume.png |
name=Vileplume }}
|-
|
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Sun Stone |
image=182Bellossom.png |
name=Bellossom }}
|}

==Poliwag family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="3" |
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Basic |
image=060Poliwag.png |
name=Poliwag }}
|
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Level 25 |
image=061Poliwhirl.png |
name=Poliwhirl }}
|
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Water Stone |
image=062Poliwrath.png |
name=Poliwrath }}
|-
|
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Trade with King's Rock |
image=186Politoed.png |
name=Politoed }}
|}

==Slowpoke family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Basic |
image=079Slowpoke.png |
name=Slowpoke }}
|
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Level 37 |
image=080Slowbro.png |
name=Slowbro }}
|-
|
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Trade with King's Rock |
image=199Slowking.png |
name=Slowking }}
|}

==Magnemite family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="5" |
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Basic |
image=081Magnemite.png |
name=Magnemite }}
|
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Level 30 |
image=082Magneton.png |
name=Magneton }}
|
{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Level up in a [[special magnetic field]]|
image=462Magnezone.png |
name=Magnezone }}
|}

==Onix family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="5" |
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Basic |
image=095Onix.png |
name=Onix }}
|
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Trade with Metal Coat |
image=208Steelix.png |
name=Steelix }}
|}

==[[Hitmons]]==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="3" |
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Baby |
image=236Tyrogue.png |
name=Tyrogue }}
|
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Level 20 (Attack > Defense) |
image=106Hitmonlee.png |
name=Hitmonlee }}
|-
|
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Level 20 (Attack < Defense) |
image=107Hitmonchan.png |
name=Hitmonchan }}
|-
|
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Level 20 (Attack = Defense) |
image=237Hitmontop.png |
name=Hitmontop }}
|}

==Lickitung family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="5" |
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Basic |
image=108Lickitung.png |
name=Lickitung }}
|
{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Level up with Rollout |
image=463Lickilicky.png |
name=Lickilicky }}
|}

==Rhyhorn family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Basic |
image=111Rhyhorn.png |
name=Rhyhorn }}
|
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Level 42 |
image=112Rhydon.png |
name=Rhydon }}
|
{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Trade with Protector |
image=464Rhyperior.png |
name=Rhyperior }}
|}

==Chansey family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Baby |
image=440Happiny.png |
name=Happiny }}
|
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Level up with Oval Stone |
image=113Chansey.png |
name=Chansey }}
|
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Friendship |
image=242Blissey.png |
name=Blissey }}
|}

==Tangela family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Basic |
image=114Tangela.png |
name=Tangela }}
|
{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Level up with Ancient Power |
image=465Tangrowth.png |
name=Tangrowth }}
|}

==Horsea family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Basic |
image=116Horsea.png |
name=Horsea }}
|
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Level 32 |
image=117Seadra.png |
name=Seadra }}
|
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Trade with Dragon Scale |
image=230Kingdra.png |
name=Kingdra }}
|}

==Mr. Mime family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="5" |
{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Baby |
image=439Mime Jr.png |
name=Mime Jr. }}
|
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Level up with Mimic |
image=122Mr. Mime.png |
name=Mr. Mime }}
|}

==Scyther family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Basic |
image=123Scyther.png |
name=Scyther }}
|
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Trade with Metal Coat |
image=212Scizor.png |
name=Scizor }}
|}

==Jynx family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Baby |
image=238Smoochum.png |
name=Smoochum }}
|
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Level 30 |
image=124Jynx.png |
name=Jynx }}
|}

==Electabuzz family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Baby |
image=239Elekid.png |
name=Elekid }}
|
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Level 30 |
image=125Electabuzz.png |
name=Electabuzz }}
|
{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Trade with Electirizer |
image=466Electivire.png |
name=Electivire }}
|}

==Magmar family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Baby |
image=240Magby.png |
name=Magby }}
|
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Level 30 |
image=126Magmar.png |
name=Magmar }}
|
{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Trade with Magmarizer |
image=467Magmortar.png |
name=Magmortar}}
|}

==[[Eeveelution]]s==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="8" |
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Basic |
image=133Eevee.png |
name=Eevee }}
|
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Water Stone |
image=134Vaporeon.png |
name=Vaporeon }}
|-
|
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Thunder Stone |
image=135Jolteon.png |
name=Jolteon }}
|-
|
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Fire Stone |
image=136Flareon.png |
name=Flareon }}
|-
|
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Friendship (Day) Sun Shard |
image=196Espeon.png |
name=Espeon }}
|-
|
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Friendship (Night) Moon Shard |
image=197Umbreon.png |
name=Umbreon }}
|-
|
{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Level up at Moss Rock |
image=470Leafeon.png |
name=Leafeon }}
|-
|
{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Level up at Ice Rock |
image=471Glaceon.png |
name=Glaceon }}
|-
|
{{Chart Box|VI|
text=Level up with 2 Affection and a Fairy-type move |
image=700Sylveon.png{{!}}96px |
name=Sylveon }}
|}

==Porygon family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="5" |
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Basic |
image=137Porygon.png |
name=Porygon }}
|
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Trade with Up-Grade |
image=233Porygon2.png |
name=Porygon2 }}
|
{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Trade with Dubious Disc |
image=474Porygon-Z.png |
name=Porygon-Z }}
|}

==Snorlax family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="5" |
{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Baby |
image=446Munchlax.png |
name=Munchlax }}
|
{{Chart Box|I|
text=Friendship |
image=143Snorlax.png |
name=Snorlax }}
|}

==Togepi family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="3" |
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Baby |
image=175Togepi.png |
name=Togepi }}
|
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Friendship |
image=176Togetic.png |
name=Togetic }}
|
{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Shiny Stone |
image=468Togekiss.png |
name=Togekiss }}
|}

==Marill family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="3" |
{{Chart Box|III|
text=Baby |
image=298Azurill.png |
name=Azurill }}
|
| rowspan="2" |
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Friendship |
image=183Marill.png |
name=Marill }}
|
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Level 18 |
image=184Azumarill.png |
name=Azumarill }}
|}

==Sudowoodo family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="5" |
{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Baby |
image=438Bonsly.png |
name=Bonsly }}
|
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Level up with Mimic |
image=185Sudowoodo.png |
name=Sudowoodo }}
|}

==Aipom family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Basic |
image=190Aipom.png |
name=Aipom }}
|
{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Level up with Double Hit|
image=424Ambipom.png |
name=Ambipom }}
|}

==Yanma family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Basic |
image=193Yanma.png |
name=Yanma }}
|
{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Level up with Ancient Power |
image=469Yanmega.png |
name=Yanmega }}
|}

==Murkrow family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Basic |
image=198Murkrow.png |
name=Murkrow }}
|{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Dusk Stone |
image=430Honchkrow.png |
name=Honchkrow }}
|}

==Misdreavus family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Basic |
image=200Misdreavus.png |
name=Misdreavus }}
|{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Dusk Stone |
image=429Mismagius.png |
name=Mismagius }}
|}

==Wobbuffet family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{Chart Box|III|
text=Baby |
image=360Wynaut.png |
name=Wynaut }}
|
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Level 15 |
image=202Wobbuffet.png |
name=Wobbuffet }}
|}

==Gligar family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Basic |
image=207Gligar.png |
name=Gligar }}
|
{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Level up with Razor Fang (Night) |
image=472Gliscor.png |
name=Gliscor }}
|}

==Sneasel family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Basic |
image=215Sneasel.png |
name=Sneasel }}
|
{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Level up with Razor Claw (Night) |
image=461Weavile.png |
name=Weavile }}
|}

==Swinub family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="5" |
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Basic |
image=220Swinub.png |
name=Swinub }}
|
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Level 33 |
image=221Piloswine.png |
name=Piloswine }}
|
{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Level up with Ancient Power |
image=473Mamoswine.png |
name=Mamoswine }}
|}

==Mantine family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Baby |
image=458Mantyke.png |
name=Mantyke }}
|
{{Chart Box|II|
text=Level up with Remoraid in party |
image=226Mantine.png |
name=Mantine }}
|}

==Zigzagoon family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="3" |
{{Chart Box|III|
text=Galarian Zigzagoon only|
image=263Zigzagoon-Galar.png |
name=Zigzagoon}}
|
{{Chart Box|III|
text=Galarian Linoone only|
image=264Linoone-Galar.png |
name=Linoone}}
|
{{Chart Box|VIII|
text=|
image=Obstagoon.png |
name=Obstagoon}}
|}

==Ralts family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="3" |
{{Chart Box|III|
text=Basic |
image=280Ralts.png |
name=Ralts }}
|
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{Chart Box|III|
text=Level 20 |
image=281Kirlia.png |
name=Kirlia }}
|
{{Chart Box|III|
text=Level 30 |
image=282Gardevoir.png |
name=Gardevoir }}
|-
|
{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Dawn Stone (male) |
image=475Gallade.png |
name=Gallade }}
|}

==Nosepass family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{Chart Box|III|
text=Basic |
image=299Nosepass.png |
name=Nosepass }}
|
{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Level up in a [[special magnetic field]]|
image=476Probopass.png |
name=Probopass }}
|}

==Roselia family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="3" |
{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Baby|
image=406Budew.png |
name=Budew }}
|
{{Chart Box|III|
text=Friendship (Day) |
image=315Roselia.png |
name=Roselia }}
|
{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Shiny Stone |
image=407Roserade.png |
name=Roserade }}
|}

==Duskull family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="5" |
{{Chart Box|III|
text=Basic |
image=355Duskull.png |
name=Duskull }}
|
{{Chart Box|III|
text=Level 37 |
image=356Dusclops.png |
name=Dusclops }}
|
{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Trade with Reaper Cloth |
image=477Dusknoir.png |
name=Dusknoir }}
|}

==Chimecho family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="5" |
{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Baby |
image=433Chingling.png |
name=Chingling }}
|
{{Chart Box|III|
text=Friendship (Night) |
image=358Chimecho.png |
name=Chimecho }}
|}

==Snorunt family==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{Chart Box|III|
text=Basic |
image=361Snorunt.png |
name=Snorunt }}
|
{{Chart Box|III|
text=Level 42 |
image=362Glalie.png |
name=Glalie }}
|-
|
{{Chart Box|IV|
text=Dawn Stone (female) |
image=478Froslass.png |
name=Froslass }}
|}

==Trivia==
* Generation IV introduced the most evolutionary relatives to Pokémon from previous generations, with 29, and Generation VI introduced the fewest evolutionary relatives to Pokémon from previous generations, with only one, {{p|Sylveon}}. The only generations that didn't introduce any new cross-generational evolutions (not counting [[regional variant]]s) are Generation V and Generation VII.
* {{p|Roselia}} is the only Pokémon to have both a pre-evolution and an evolution ({{p|Budew}} and {{p|Roserade}}, respectively) introduced in the same generation.
* {{p|Porygon}} is the only Pokémon to have an evolution introduced in a later generation that was later able to evolve once again.

==See also==
{{pokelist}}

[[Category:Lists]]
[[Category:Pokémon with cross-generational evolutions|*]]

[[it:Elenco Pokémon con evoluzioni extra-generazionali]]
[[zh:宝可梦跨世代进化列表]]

Talk:Obstagoon (Pokémon)

2019-08-09T23:16:55Z

SeanWheeler: /* Important Note */

==Russian name==
Obstagoon's Russian name is <code><nowiki>Обстагун ''Obstagun''</nowiki></code>, could someone add it please? --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 23:04, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

== English name ==

I see that Obstagoon's name can be based on 'obstruct' (also works with it's new move Obstruct), but it could also be based on 'obstinate-stubbornly refusing to change one's opinion or chosen course of action, despite attempts to persuade one to do so'. {{unsigned|Srushj11}}
:I can also see that. By the way, don't forget to sign your comments using four tildes (~). [[User:Kikugi|Kikugi]] ([[User talk:Kikugi|talk]]) 04:53, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

== Inspiration. ==

For species I feel like this guy (and the linoone, not so much the zigzagoon) might be based on honey badgers in temperament and european badgers in appearance (and possibly a little bit of inspiration from hyenas, too, but definitely mostly badger.)

It's also worth noting that their patterns also resembles grease makeup (as worn by bands like KISS and Insane Clown Posse). This is also fitting with their use by Team Yell, which IMO seem to be a charicature of particularly dedicated punk rock/heavy metal fans.

[[User:Burgrr|Burgrr]] ([[User talk:Burgrr|talk]]) 04:21, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

The Galarian Evo line's tongue constantly sticking out heavily resembles the way Gene Simmons has his tongue out while performing as a member of KISS. Obstagoon even has a widow's peak like Gene, and its grey fur resembles the armour he wears when dressed up. [[User:LordHeinz|LordHeinz]] ([[User talk:LordHeinz|talk]]) 17:31, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

== Important Note ==

This Pokémon is the first new evolution of an old Pokémon since Gen 4. I think this might be important to make note of in a trivia section. [[User:Pikatwig|Pikatwig]] ([[User talk:Pikatwig|talk]]) 22:48, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

:It's half true, it evolves from new Pokemon. Alolan Marowak is actually a cross generational evolution and we had it just one generation before. In generation 6 was Sylveon, so the gap is only on fifth.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 23:36, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

::Alolan Marowak is just Marowak as a Fire Ghost Pokémon. I don't think regional variants should be counted for cross-generational evolutions because they are not exactly separate Pokémon from their original forms. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 23:16, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Leaf (game)

2019-07-17T04:03:14Z

SeanWheeler: /* To be or not to be that's the question. (Or why is that even a question in the first place?) */

==Leaf==
So who made up that name? --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 17:22, 2 February 2006 (CST)

:I want to know that too. Following the trend that the 1st and 2nd gen games set, her name should be Green, or Blue in the Japanese version. I'm guessing someone just chose one of the optional names from FRLG and gave it to her when they made the article. There's no real basis for her name being "Leaf", so shouldn't we go by precedence, as was done with Gold, Silver and Kris, and just call her Green?. -Shaddow Boy

::For an English Language Version, Green is accurate, however [[Green (game)]] already directs to Blue, does it not?--[[User:PikamasterADV|PikamasterADV]] 00:50, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

:Internal game data. There is a trainer, presumably used for debugging, with the sprite of the male player, and another trainer with the sprite of the female player. The male one is named Red, but the female is named Leaf for some strange reason. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 09:38, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
::English version or Japanese? --WikidSmaht 08:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Both. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:53, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
::::This isn't really a good habit to get into. If we start taking unused data as official canon, then Professor Oak started with Squirtle, the Safari Zone had no Pokemon in it 3 years after Red and Blue, and that the Lake of Rage is still a town. It just doesn't make sense. Fire Red and Leaf Green have officially fixed Green's (male rival's), name to that of the original, leaving lone Blue, the third version gal, without a truly official name. While logic would suggest we should call her Blue due to the Manga as well as Blue being the color generation's third game, we are stuck basing her name on what can only be called speculation. Unused Data =/= Fact. [[User:Fishman|Fishman]] 15:43, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::Er, no. When it comes to the games' canon, internal game data > manga name. Otherwise we should be calling Brendan "Ruby" and May "Sapphire".
:::::And no offense, but your analogies are the ones that don't make sense to me. The prototypical Safari Zone in GSC doens't have wild Pokémon because the wild encounters data was never written, not because it was originally meant to not have Pokémon. And the finished versions of the games retconned Profesor Oak into not being a fight-able trainer, and the Lake of Rage into being just a lake are, not a town. But neither the finished games not Nintendo officially revealed a name for the FR/LG female protagonist, so if her name during the development stages was Leaf (which in-game data seems to prove it was), then it should still be, since there isn't evidence to make us believe that it was retconned into another name. [[User:Spideym|Spideym]] 00:03, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Well we can't call her Blue, because [[Blue (game)]] is the rival. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 01:13, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
:If only GSDS would become reality, we'd know for sure, since then we'd have to find out what happened to her as well as Red. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:33, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
::We don't need another sequel. Besides her name, the answers are right here in front of us. The [[Blue (game)]] has officially been renamed as Green. All we have to do with the old article is point out that his English name used to be Blue, and was later changed back into Green. [[User:Fishman|Fishman]] 01:45, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
:::No, it has not been officially renamed. The rival's first default name for the Red version does not qualify as the character's official name. For all we know, his name could still be "Blue," just because it's not a default name doesn't mean it's been officially changed. Taking evidence from all the games supports that the rival is Blue and the girl is unnamed (leaving us with Green), but the idea that Blue has become Green is just fan speculation. I also agree that we can't go taking in-game data as official, and believe the name of the girl should be Green until Nintendo proves otherwise.--[[User:Mezase Master|Mezase Master]]
::::No to you, Mezase Master. First of all, you'll give the reason to most of us when we claim that Blue, this is, Japanese Green, is now Green outside of Japan as well since FRLG. Why do I say this? Because of HGSS and in-game data. And if internal game data says that her name is Leaf in both Japanese and English versions, then we have to assume it is as such. It's like you're claiming that Nintendo, specially the American and European divisions, don't screw up on the manuals and stuff. Even if such material is official, it doesn't mean it's correct and in-game data is the superior form of canon in the Pokémon franchise, so I say you're wrong. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 11:56, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::BTW, I e-mailed Nintendo of America back in late 2008 and asked them what was the official name of the female player character in FRLG. They told me that there isn't any and that players can name characters as they pretend (we all know that happens in every game except the rival in RSE), so we only have in-game data left. And if in-game data says that the name is Leaf, it's because it is. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 12:23, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Her name can't be "Green" because is the rival's name in the games already [[User:Haruka uzumaki|Haruka uzumaki]] 16:06, 24 September 2007
: Her name isn't "Green". It's "Blue". [[User:Fishman|Fishman]] 15:55, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

==Manga==
Okay, that manga information should definitely be in a separate article. But what series is it referring to? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 05:21, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

== RBG picture ==

So, supposedly she's based off of a picture from an old guidebook. Does anybody have an copy of this picture? I'm curious to see it. {{unsigned|Morgil27}}

== Blue artwork? ==

I found an image that appears to be the artwork described in the article. Is this it? [http://www.sailorteam.com/fakecard/starters/rgb.jpg]

It doesn't show her face, unfortunately. [[User:GigaMetroid99|GigaMetroid99]] 02:43, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:We're not sure it's her but she does resemble Blue (Green in the U.S)--[[Santa Claus|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチュウ!''']] 02:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::I was just wondering if that was the picture that the article described with:

''Leaf was supposed to be in the original Red and Green versions, due to the fact that on Nintendo's Official guidebook, it depicted a female trainer with long brown hair, a black dress, white gloves and short black boots, alongside the male protagonist and the rival. It is believed she was supposed to be in the game, but was left out for some reason.''

If that's the right image, it should be added to the article to show viewers how she would have looked.[[User:GigaMetroid99|GigaMetroid99]] 01:41, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:: I'm confused I thought the picture already was in the article.... I made a copy of it from somewhere...--[[User:Marhawkman|Marhawkman]] 02:10, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
::: Oh yeah, I remember reading in one of the articles something about how there are bits of code in red and green that treat the gender of the player character as a variable. wouldn't this be additional confirmation?--[[User:Marhawkman|Marhawkman]] 15:09, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

== Her back sprite ==

It may be me but her back sprite,and Red's,makes it look like she has brown eyes,despite what the trainer card shows. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 02:48, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

== Rival = Blue? or Green? HGSS ==

Well, being that the rival's name also complicates things, as TTEchidna said, if the Viridian City gym leader in Pokemon HeartGold & SoulSilver is Leader (or Gym Leader) Blue, then it's back to the drawing board, but if he's Leader (or Gym Leader) Green, the name of the female player character of FireRed & LeafGreen may very well be Blue then. {{unsigned|Team Snagem Jarrod}}
:Her name will be Leaf regardless. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:25, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Wouldn't the situation change if she appears in HG/SS under a different name? [[User:Tsum|Tsum]] 04:44, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
:It might but I think if the English translation calls the Viridian Leader "Green" to go with FireRed and Leaf''Green'', and has Red still in Mt. Silver, then this girl being Blue would confuse people due to Green being Blue in Gen II because before it was Red and ''Blue''. Leaf fits her best of all, unless they were to go a completely odd route and go with actual given names, in which case I'd bet that Red would be Satoshi in Japan and Ash here, Green is Shigeru/Gary, and Leafy-poo is Ashley. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:54, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

== The only one not to appear in the anime? ==

Wouldn't Soul count? Also,what about Mark,Mint,Wes,Michael,Lucy,Kate, and Lunick? Or do it just refer to the main games. Even so,what about Soul? Or is it still up for grabs that she is just a redesign of Kris,and not a seperate character? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 03:39, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
:Soul's game hasn't even been released. Of course she hasn't appeared in the anime yet. If she appears, she will probably show up during the 13th or 14th seasons, late 12th at the earliest, assuming they return to Johto after the Sinnoh League and the Sinnoh GF. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 04:36, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

== Apperence in HGSS? ==

If she's not, so should that be mentioned if she is not? Just saying b/c of the games comming out today.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:43, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:It doesn't appear so. Just Red. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:52, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
::Alright was that added to article?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:54, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Has anyone finished the game with {{ga|Kotone}} to confirm? All the places I've seen were finishing with {{ga|Gold|Hibiki}}. Maybe Leaf takes place of {{ga|Red}} when you play with Kotone. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 03:39, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Well many have confirmed her not to be in HGSS, should I undo the trivia just in case? She might be in beta?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 03:41, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::I think it is too early to say it, it's better to undo it until someone who has finished with {{ga|Kotone}} to confirm. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 03:43, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::Alright, I'll do unless you already did.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 03:46, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS (again) ==

Is it ''really'' confirmed that she is not in HGSS? Has ''anyone'' finished the game with <s>Soul</s> {{ga|Kotone}} to see if she is not in the place of Red? If not, the right thing to do is to remove this trivia. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 03:47, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:Okay, anyone answered, and people keep insisting on putting that freaking piece of trivia. It would be excellent if someone say ''where'' it is confirmed. I'm really sorry for bothering, but I just want to know if.someone.has.finished.with.kotone.and.proved.it. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 21:06, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::Could you please stop asking already? I'm sure they are working on it. Be patient. I would do it myself but my rom always messes up by the time I reach Violet City. I have to wait a few weeks until I get the real game. We are not saying that she's in the game and we are not saying that she isn't. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:15, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:::People have ripped all of the trainer sprites (including the event-only Giovanni... at least, I believe he's event-only) from the game. Leaf is not included in them. I don't have the game or ROM to go through the game with Kotone just to double-check, though... [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♪]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:17, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I know it, it will take time, but ''I'' am also working on it. But people are insisting to put that trivia ''"[...] she does not appear in the games."'', and we do not have clear confirmation yet. I'll hide it, okay? Sorry again for bothering. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 21:20, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Leave it hidden. Although, Tina's comment gives great weight to Red staying there. Not to mention that there are a billion and one Red references. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:26, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::Made it to Pallet. The mailbox says "Red's house". So yeah. I don't think she's here. However, there is a slim possiblity of her name being changed to Red in this game. But I highly doubt it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:11, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Actually, I think it's already been proven that Leaf isn't in HG/SS from what I know after watching the HG video with Kotone in it. I think it might be possible that the designers may have planned her to be in HG/SS. I don't know about you guys but do you think she could be in beta?{{unsigned|LeafGreen}}
::::::::Yeah, I actually {{tt|[http://community.livejournal.com/pokemon/3055811.html found her hidden in the game]|I'm totally trollin', guys.}}. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 05:32, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Well today, I made it to the top of Mt Silver as Kotone. Guess who was there? Give you a hint, it wasn't Leaf :D --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 07:50, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

== Absence in other canons? ==

From what I've seen, she only appears in Special, as Blue, and in Firered/Leafgreen. Not in the anime, not in any other manga, not in any cards, not any figurines, etc.. I've only ever seen two official arts for her, the regular one and one with her and a Combusken. Does she appear in any other media? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 21:00, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
:Can you provide a shot of the one with the Combusken? Or a link?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 01:35, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
:: [http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee357/Pichu_Chu/6588.jpg This]. I think that's from the Game Freak website, they have had tons of official art there. Well, she did appear in that "Pocket Monsters" manga, so that counts..But, only two manga counterparts, and her one game appearence? She still seems pretty absent. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 00:45, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
She appears in Pokemon Colosseum too or is that just a cameo or beta thing because Red, May, and Brendon have are there [[User:Pika Blue|Pika Blue]] 7:29, 3 November 2009
:Does she appear in a playable way, or is it just a background thing?--[[User:Champion Victoria|Champion Victoria]] 11:46, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
That i really don't know all i know is that her image is there somewhere i haven't played the game myself i think its part of some marketing ploy at the time to get people to buy LeafGreen and FireRed along with Sapphire, Ruby, and Emerald.Because like I said before May, Red, and Brendon are there too. [[User:Pika Blue|Pika Blue]] 12:20, 22 December 2009

== Can I add this? ==

That leaf's clothes are opposites to Red's. As in Red's pants are the same color as her shirt and her red's shirt is the same color as her skirt. Same as for his and hers hats. Basically its showing they are counterparts.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:14, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
::It seems notable enough to add, no other characters share that yet. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 05:30, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Alright then, lets see what happens.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 01:04, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
::::Seems like a ridiculously convoluted way of saying it. Considering that all of the other game characters who are male/female counterparts wear similar clothes... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:27, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

== Is this Leaf? ==

Where did this [http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee357/Pichu_Chu/botunennga.jpg image] come from? It seems to have something to do with this [http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee357/Pichu_Chu/6588.jpg one]. Those are the only two non-main official Leaf artwork I know of, they're all by Sugimori too. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 20:05, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
:Wow neat find, I'm not sure, it looks like leaf, umm is it just random artwork or like the TCG?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:06, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
::The first one I think doesn't have enough color to distinguish much--take off the brim of the hat and it would probably more resemble Dawn. The second one, however, as far as I can tell, is definitely based off this design (nevermind the fact that she's near a Pokémon heavily associated with May). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 04:28, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

== Blue eyes? ==

Doesn't Red's sprite show him with blue eyes too? Plus, her pre-game sprite shows her with brown eyes, doesn't it? Her back sprite seems to show her with brown eyes too. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 01:03, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

== Title ==

Could someone upload Leaf's Title sprite from FRLG? Red has his, but Leaf doesn't. --[[User:ShinyPikachu/Petition|Never Give Up]] [[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 13:03, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS ==

The article says her name was in the games. Does that mean she was supposed to be in it, or is her name just there for another reason? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 22:38, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
:You mean about the name "Leaf" is alternates for Dawn and Kotone? That just means they just share name. Or where soy talking about something out. Or do you mean about the dummied-out character? That was for FRLG.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 22:41, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
::It should say FRLG then, because in that context it makes it sound like they're talking about HGSS. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 18:45, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
:"Leaf's name was found in HeartGold and SoulSilver's data as a dummied-out opponent Trainer, alongside Red (whose name is Red as it was before)." Seems like they're talking about HGSS. Is this information correct anyway? >_> -- [[User:Zedd|Zedd]] 14:16, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
::It IS true. But that's in FRLG, not HGSS. That's where her name comes from also. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:50, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

== Credits sprite ==

It's a little bit botched. Can someone make a new animation?—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 23:11, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==
Both, Leaf and Red artoworks are holding pokeball and VS-seeker. This could be nice trivia? - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Banetoid}} ([[User talk:Banetoid|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Banetoid|contribs]]) ''

:No. There's nothing trivia worthy about that. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 06:10, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

==Cameo ==
First, sorry for my english
I haven`t played this game but I know that Drill Dozer was made by Gamefreak and I found this
http://www.spriters-resource.com/gameboy_advance/drilldozer/sheet/19334
I looks like one of Jill costumes is the same as Leaf.
This could be a trivia. {{unsigned|Virus bass}}
:Neat find. I think so.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 21:31, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

== Is this looking too much into it? ==

Leaf and Kris are the first female players of their regions and are not reused again?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:27, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:04, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

== Why Leaf and not Green? ==

Okay, honestly, this makes no sense. I understand that you're taking the internal data as evidence, but internal data shouldn't always be taken as canon. If we named every character based on the internal data, then Blue would be called Terry, and Barry would be called Cedric, among others. Their internal files are called that for whatever reason, but that doesn't mean that it should be their official name. I understand that your reasoning for using the internal data to support the name "Leaf" is because she's never officially named in game, unlike Red, Blue, Ethan, Lyra, Brendan, May, Lucas, Dawn, etc., but there [i]is[/i] evidence outside of game canon that supports the name "Green". Yes, most of the time you shouldn't take media outside of game canon as evidence, but that's exactly what you did when you decided to name the DPPt Rival "Barry", isn't it? And why did you do that? Because it was the most logical choice. The name "Barry" is present in the games as one of the preset names, and it's also supported in other media, media which also uses the canon name of Dawn, so it can be assumed that the name they're using for Barry is the intended canon name for him. Leaf's situation is no different. She's already been named "Green" in the manga (that is, in the English version, since the names of Blue and Green are swapped in Japan, but since this is an English wiki we use the English names), and it fits the Red/Blue/Green naming pattern, so why should we completely ignore those facts and instead go with "Leaf"?! It's just not logical. Whatever the verdict is, she'll always be Green to me, and she should be to everyone else, too. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 08:10, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:She's Leaf. Period and end of story. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:27, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::Why? Because you say so? Did you even read everything I wrote? You guys did this with Barry, so what's stopping you from doing it with Leaf/Green? —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 15:27, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::This has been discussed before, and there was a perfectly good reason for naming her Leaf. It probably says it in official guidebooks or something. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 18:55, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::I'm aware that it has been discussed before, but to my knowledge, the only solid evidence to support the name "Leaf" is from internal data. And like I said in my first post, there are so many things wrong with taking the internal data as an official name, especially when there's a much more logical name. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 19:33, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::This is like saying Brendan should be named Ruby. Leaf is what she's known as, that's the end of it. Nothing is stopping ''you'' from calling her Green, but that doesn't make it her real name. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 19:51, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::No, it's not at all like calling Brendan Ruby. Brendan has been officially named in the games, Leaf/Green hasn't. Since we don't have an official name to go by in the games, we should name her based on logic and evidence in other media. Green makes the most sense, and it's backed up by the manga. Leaf doesn't make sense at all. We know that she was planned to be in the Generation I games but never made the cut, so why would we call her Leaf, when the Fire/Leaf thing didn't come until Generation III? And Red isn't called Fire, is he? No, he's called Red, just like Blue is called Blue, and just like how "Leaf" should be called Green. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 20:09, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::Red isn't called Fire because he's been named in GSCHGSS. Leaf and the Green from Adventures are different characters, just like Red and Ash are. One's name should not affect the other. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 20:13, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::That's a different situation, though. And although Leaf/Green from FireRed/LeafGreen is a different character from the Adventures Green, they're clearly based on each other. Red and Blue have their canon names in Adventures, so why should we assume that Green's name isn't the canon one used? Yes, later characters are named after their versions in the manga, but those are different generations, where the naming scheme has been changed in the games. In Generation one, their names were all colors, so why should Red's female counterpart be any different? Also, you guys are contradicting yourselves. You used the anime's name for Barry because he didn't have an official name in the games, and that's A-OK to you, but when we're talking about Leaf/Green it's wrong? Why is that? You went with Barry because it was the most logical choice, that's why. It's supported by both the games (as one of the random preset names) ''and'' the anime, and the same anime also uses the official name for the character Dawn, so there's really no reason not to trust it. It was the best choice there was, so you used it. And Green is the best choice for the name of the female protagonist of FireRed/LeafGreen, and planned female protagonist of Generation I, so why aren't we using it? —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 20:24, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I hope you realize, Tyeforce, that when an admin (TTE no less...) says that it's the end of the convo, then stop. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:35, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Sorry, I'd just like to know why he's so set on the name Leaf when Green is the more logical choice. If he's the admin, then he must have approved the change from Pearl to Barry, so why is he sticking with Leaf instead of Green? And if I can't voice my opinion here anymore, can I take it to the forums, or will my thread just be locked and I'll be told to shut up with no reason given like what's happening here?—[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 20:44, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::As much as I'm inclined to disagree with his choice in naming, I believe he is acting in his rights to call the name into question. No one likes to edit a wiki that has draconian admins, after all. However, I believe he's failed to produce the evidence that's required: What is there, ingame, that says her name should be Green? Nothing, as far as I can tell. Barry at least had it as a default name in two games (Barry [the name] was in Platinum, right?). Leaf's absence from Pokémon Canon makes Leaf her only logical name.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 20:53, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::You talk as if Leaf/Green didn't have "Green" as an option for her name in her games, either. She did, just as is the case with Barry. But Barry's not the ''only'' default name he's given. It's just one among many. So what made Bulbapedia decide to call him Barry? The fact that the anime also calls him that. And the ''same exact situation'' can apply to Leaf/Green. Like Barry, she's never officially named in game, except for the list of default names, of which includes the name "Green". But she's also named Green outside of game canon, just like Barry was named for that exact same reason, so that's what we should call her. If somebody didn't decide to give her the name Leaf (yes, I know that it was based on internal data, but I've already given reasons as to why that can't be taken as an official name) and name this article so, then people would be calling her Green, the most logical choice. It's Bulbapedia's fault that her name is widely accepted as "Leaf" now, just like it was Bulbapedia's fault that so many people started calling the DPPt Rival "Pearl". You have to understand that what you say here greatly affects the entire Pokémon community, so it's very easy for false information to be taken as fact. Now, I'm not saying that it's a ''fact'' that Red's female counterpart is named Green, but there's much more evidence that supports it as opposed to calling her Leaf, and it's just more logical. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 21:09, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:(Gogo Indent Reset) Responding to each claim in order: But you see, it doesn't matter that Green is also an option because we could just as easily substitute in any of her other default names and argue it on that case. Green is only a default if you're playing LeafGreen; for FireRed, she'd just as well be called Fire. As far as Barry is concerned, the name is not only in Diamond, but also Platinum, which gives that name the ingame edge it needs over Clint, the top default name from Pearl. Your arguments that she is Green outside the game canon are pointless because she doesn't exist in any other canon; "Green" from Pokemon Adventures was established long before FireRed and LeafGreen were announced, and is thus an entirely separate character (if the separate wiki articles didn't already clue you in). Barry is named such because it is his default name in Platinum, giving Barry a 2-to-1 bias over Clint, and a 2-0 over Pearl. Leaf has no such out; in FR, she can be called Red or Fire, and in LG she can be called Leaf or Green. Any name is just as likely as the others (except Red, obviously). The ingame data in this case acts as final arbiter: it could have been literally any name and it would have won out (due to being present in both FireRed AND LeafGreen). I still don't see how Green is any more likely than Leaf; Leaf has a spot on the default names list AND the ingame data, where Green only has the default names list. You aren't providing the evidence you need. Probably because it doesn't exist.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 21:24, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::You're completely ignoring the fact that the character Leaf/Green has existed since Generation I. Not as a playable character, but in official artwork, and we know she was intended to be in the games, but just never made the cut. With that in mind, why would you go with the name "Leaf", which makes no sense, considering that the terms Fire and Leaf hadn't been introduced until Generation III? And I know that she's not the same exact character as the Green in the manga canon-wise, but it's clear as day that the two ''are'' the same character, just in different canon. Since her counterpart and rival have kept their color names throughout the generations, why should her name be an element and not a color? You can through game data at me all you want (by the way, where is your proof that the name "Green" only appears in LeafGreen, but "Leaf" appears in both?), but it just doesn't make sense. Since we no official name for her, have to think about what the developers' intent is. Do you think that they would call her Leaf, or the more logical choice, Green? It would appear that "Green" is the intended name, since it's used in the Adventures manga (which is the closest media to the game canon other than the games themselves), and it fits the color naming scheme. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 21:54, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::The flaw with your first point is if we go by that logic {{p|Shellos}} would be a Generation III Pokémon. If the character wasn't present in the games, no amount of intention is going to put them there. That puts your question to rest as well; Leaf because the Character didn't exist in Generation I. Saying it's clear as day means nothing; you're talking about 'the manga' like it's somehow more infallible than the games themselves (I must have skipped over the part of the game where my PC was kidnapped by Ho-Oh and spent several years in Johto). As for proof that Leaf is in both games, Leaf is the dummied out name for the character in both games (similar that Red is the default in both games for the dummied out character that had his face, as well as whatever the weird name that Blue had in FRLG). In the naming screen, the opposite game's name is '''never''' an option; You don't start up Red and see Blue as the default name for your character. So it would be reasonable to assume that neither Leaf nor Green are options for the default names in FireRed. Thus there are two separate instances of Leaf (ingame default name and the dummied out trainer with her sprite) and only one instance of Green (the ingame default name). Finally, you have yet to show any proof that Green is more suited than Leaf. Manga-based arguments are irrelevant, as they aren't the same character (even if their bases are the same).--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 22:13, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Just stop arguing pointlessly. People all over call her Leaf. Leaf is the generally excepted name. As for the reason, I don't know. You can wait for TTEchidna to explain why, but don't argue with yourselves, when you don't know all the facts. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 00:38, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::Not claiming that Japanese fandom is the be-all end-all by any stretch of the imagination, but I just want to point out that I have never seen ''any'' Japanese fans call Leaf "Blue." They usually call her, indeed, "Leaf" (リーフ). Other names I've seen from J-fandom have been "Fuguri" (フグリ) and "main character♀" (主♀)... never "Blue." Just thought I'd point that out. :3 [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 00:49, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::What's "Fuguri" mean? Sorry if that's obvious...--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 01:02, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::"Fuguri" comes from "Rii'''fu guri'''in" (or rather, LeafGreen). :3 [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 01:07, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
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 [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 01:34, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:Since it wouldn't let me post for some reason earlier today, I didn't get to post my reply to [[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]]. I'll go ahead and post what I tried to post earlier today but couldn't.

:Even if she wasn't physically present in the Generation I games, if she was, she would've been named Green, not Leaf. Since Red isn't renamed Fire and Blue isn't renamed Water in Generation III, why should we call her Leaf, instead of sticking with colors? And you're confusing me about the default name ''Leaf'''s presence in the games. At first you said that Green is only present in LeafGreen, but Leaf is present in both versions. Now you turn around and say that both Green ''and'' Leaf are only present in LeafGreen. Which is it? If the latter is true, then Green has just as much in game support as Leaf does, excluding unseen dummy files in the game data. You even brought up the fact that Blue's name in the game data is strange, not being Green like it should be (since that's his Japanese name). If we can't trust the internal data for Blue's name, then why should we trust it for Leaf/Green's name? With that said, if you exclude the internal data that can't be taken as fact and media outside of the games, then both names, Green ''and'' Leaf, have the same amount of supporting evidence for them (that is, assuming your first comment about the name Leaf being present in FireRed wasn't true, as you later suggested). They're tied, 1-1. So you have a choice to make. Should you go with the name that's present in placeholder data in the game (which can't be trusted, as shown by Blue's placeholder data), or should you go with the name that's also used in other media, ''and'' is more logical, fitting the color naming scheme? I think the choice is pretty obvious. Green is the name to go with. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 06:13, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
::Because she wasn't officially /in/ Gen I can she be inclusive to it. She existed as art and an idea that wouldn't come to fruition until Kris: a heroine choice. She may have "exist", but she is not a canon character until Gen III. This being her official debut, she has nothing to go on but these two games. She cannot be called Green, since FireRed is the Alpha game, making the "Green" character the rival (in essence). But seeing as there is no third game to possibly pawn her off on, the last bit is to chop the title in half, one name for the rival, and one name for the girl. Because the rival isn't officially 'Blue' by Gen III standards, since no Blue game exists in Gen III. Yes, he ''is'' Blue, in every English Gen that ''isn't'' the third. And since he's not Blue, but "Green," she, as a Gen III character, cannot be "Green". Hence. As she is a Gen III character only (so far), she cannot be named by the standards of Gen IV, only her own generation. If she had made an appearance in Gen IV...only ''then'' could her name be argued beyond the scope of her limited exposure. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 15:46, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Okay, now ''that'' makes sense. I hadn't thought of it that way. ''Thank you'' for actually providing logical evidence besides placeholder data that can't be trusted or fandom nonsense. If someone would have pointed that out a long time ago, I would've never argued over her name. So, again, I thank you for being the one to provide real, logical, valid evidence as to why she should be called Leaf. No longer will I call her Green. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 03:18, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:::: What's wrong with just saying this: Okay, so there's a "trio" from each Generation, correct? And each trio is named either with real names, or with version names. From Hoenn, we have Brendan, May, and Wally. From Sinnoh, we have Lucas, Dawn, and Barry. From Johto, we have Ethan, Lyra, and Emoguy. Anyways, since each "trio" follows a theme, meaning that the names have to be consistent with one another. Emoguy was given no clear name in HG/SS, so I can understand why we still call him Silver, since Ethan was previously known as Gold, but ANYWAYS, each name in the trio has to be consistent. Logically, what makes more sense: Red, Leaf, and Blue? Or Red, Green, and Blue? If it's that hard to notice people, '''the Kanto trio are named after colors''' Notice how "Leaf" is not a color. Just saying. EDIT: bah, screw it, who cares, it's just a name, afterall, Kris wasn't named Crystal. Leaf ftw! [[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] 16:17, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

== Fuguri ==

Do you know that it means "testicles" in Japanese? Whoever calls her that, he's probably NOT serious about this name. And this makes this not trivia-worthy. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:27, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:I do know that it means that, but fans do seriously call her by that name, and in a perfectly well-meaning manner. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 23:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:Kay, so some kind anons on 2ch were able to clear up for me the true origins behind the name "Fuguri." Here's the answer that I ultimately received.
::''The very first FireRed/LeafGreen thread was titled "FireRed LeafGreen" (ファイアレッドリーフグリーン) without the &.''
::''Because of that, people responded with, "FireRedLee & Fugurin (ファイアレッドリー＆フグリーン)? What an obscene title!"''
::''I have a feeling that's how the "Fuguri" thing started.''
::''Incidentally, the male protagonist was also called "Red Lee." Though now the names "Remake Red" and "Leaf" have permeated [the fandom].''
:So yes, while it started out as a joke because of the word "scrotum," it turned into a legitimate fandom name for her, and people do call her that in all seriousness, without any obscene intentions behind it. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 00:23, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
::I think it's somewhat like the fail pronunciation of Lyra's name as "Coat Own". They see "ko" and know "co", but "tone" doesn't read to them as two syllables, since it's an English word. And no one cares to read up on kana. You'd know someone meant Lyra if they called her Coat Own in a video. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:33, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

== PBR ==

You know, I've wondered this for a while. Red and Leaf appeared in the prerelease trailers for PBR; is it possible for players to assemble their outfits in PBR through the accessories, or not? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:34, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

== Leaf is her most common name? ==

The last trivia states this. However until recently she was mostly known as "Blue" in the fandom, due to Blue from Special. Even now she's still well-known as Blue. On a different note..Is a screenshot of her BR beta appearence article-worthy? Does anyone even have a somewhat high quality screen-shot? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 04:00, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
:As far as I know(which isn't much, as I came into the fandom during DP), she is known as Leaf. Her manga counterpart is the one most commonly known as Blue(for silly reasons). '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:20, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
::Leaf's Special counterparts name is Blue though..Anyway, Leaf up until recently has been synonymous with "Blue" or "Green" up until recently. Even now, a lot of people call her "Blue" on both sides of the fandom. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 22:02, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Actually, since The rival is known both as Blue and Green, It is safer to call her leaf.
And The PBR pic,the trailer Even on better sites like IGN, Is pretty low quality.
Unless someone has a better vid, we can't get a better picture. {{unsigned|Kanto Girl}}

== Early Design ==

I was looking on the internet, and found an image that looks like it could have been Leaf's original design. I cant upload the image, but I can give a link:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PokemonRedAndBlue?from=Main.ptitleevcce3c2

Go down to "What could have been" and click on female protagonist and you will see a pre design of Leaf. [[User:Iml908|Iml908]] 20:27, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
:[[Unreleased Pokémon and characters|We already have that]] [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 20:31, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

== Unknown ==

Shouldn't this article be tagged with {{template|Unknown name}}?
[[User:LurKasumi|LurKasumi]] 04:42, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
:In the internal game data of FRLG, her sprite is associated with the name "Leaf", just like the male character is named "Red", so it's valid. [[User:Duke R|'''|) u |( e''']] [[User talk:Duke R|'''®''']] 13:17, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

== Headwear ==

I remember that a few years back, this page had an interesting point of trivia. "If Leaf had been included in Red and Green with her original design, she would have been the only playable character to date without headwear." Well, that was the gist of it, but I'm sure it was worded better. Even now, 20 years after the original games, this is still true. Well, in the Playable Characters' default forms at least. Sun and Moon's protags are apparently able to remove their hats through customization. Could that be re-added? Or is it too random a trivia point to put down, especially since it's about an "if" rather than something that actually happened?
--[[User:BlackButterfree|BlackButterfree]] ([[User talk:BlackButterfree|talk]]) 02:42, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
:I would say not to re-add it. It's a pretty convoluted point, and like you said it never happened. [[User:Litwick96|Litwick]][[User Talk:Litwick96|96]] 02:51, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

== Comics ==

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What exactly are these comics? Some early comic book? {{unsigned|RubyLeafGreenCrystal}}
:It looks like it was from some sort of craft (like origami) book. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:38, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

== Leaf now called Green in Pokémon Let's Go? ==

Just read this now:

https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2018/11/7/18072704/pokemon-lets-go-trailer-red-blue-green-trainer-fights

It looks like '''Leaf''', who was just announced on the newslink above as making a guest appearance on [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]], won't be officially named Leaf but Green instead! But if Green was the Japanese name for [[Blue (game)|Blue]], then how will she be named in Japanese if "Leaf" is dropped for "Green"? (Also posted this on [[Talk:Player character#Leaf now called Green in Pokémon Let's Go?|Talk:Player character]].) [[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn (Pokémon Sun Trainer ID: 768426)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 14:33, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
:So far the only [https://pokemon.gamespress.com/THE-ELITE-FOUR-RETURN-WITH-A-FRESH-NEW-LOOK official news release] by Pokemon.com and their social media sites make no verbal mention of Red, Blue, and Leaf/Green. They don't even provide official clean renders of the artwork of the later four Gym Leaders, which the English trailer showed. Until we get clarification from Pokémon itself, or the game releases, we can only consider this idle speculation by Polygon.
:That said, if her name DOES indeed turn out to be Green, it will contradict what we considered to be the official source for Leaf's name after years of silence: [[a:File:Leaf and Squirtle artwork.png|her Kotobukiya ArtFx J concept art]]. - [[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]] 14:58, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
:: Whatever she will be called (probably Leaf) we should consider that the Let's Go games might take place in their own separate canon from the other core games (I don't deny they're main series, I question if they're a separate branch in the main series) since the new protagonists seem to replace the classic ones in Pallet Town while the classic ones are still existing and out and about.
::(and I don't mean a different timeline, but actually a completely different continuity like the anime and manga that does it's own thing different from the games)
::So perhaps in that case a separate page, for example Red(Let's Go) and the Red(game) page we have, coexisting as counterparts would be in place.
::It's still just speculation at this point of course, we'll have to wait and see...--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 08:41, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
:::Just wait until the games are released before you start suggesting all of this, please. We'll have the answers soon enough. Then we'll decide what to do. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 12:33, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
::::Well yes of course but I see no harm in brainstorming potential scenarios to be at least a bit more prepared at release for what may come.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 15:22, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
:Unless we see official confirmation that the LGPE character is the same character we currently call Leaf (alternate timelines nonwithstanding), LGPE is unlikely to affect this page's name. I doubt being "the female Gen I trainer" is enough to count as Leaf, because it would be similar to the {{ga|Kris}}/{{ga|Lyra}} situation. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 01:31, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
::Well, she is confirmed to be called Green in-game as seen in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPwtcdhlL3Q [[User:Sucoleo|Sucoleo]] ([[User talk:Sucoleo|talk]]) 08:41, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
:::Don't be funny. The game literally slaps us in the face that she's one and the same, by giving her an intermediate design between her Gen I and Gen III self. Don't grasp at straws. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 09:34, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
::::I agree that this is definitely meant to be the same character. Her top is clearly just inverted colours of her FRLG design, she's wearing shorts instead of a skirt and not wearing a hat. This change in design seems to be more of a difference like {{ga|May}} between her RSE and ORAS design than a {{ga|Kris}}/{{ga|Lyra}} difference. [[User:Tarawl|Tarawl]] ([[User talk:Tarawl|talk]]) 15:27, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::Whether Blue/Leaf is the same character or not, this does not affect Leaf as the official name of FRLG female protagonist. Yea, this is like Kris/Lyra case. Some people think that they are the same character, and Some people don’t. And Red(original/remake), Gold/Ethan, Elio(SM/USUM) and Selene(SM/USUM) are the same case also, although Bulbapedia has different treatments for them each. [[User:E9310103838|E9310103838]] ([[User talk:E9310103838|talk]]) 16:10, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::That's some pomfed logic to me. If it wasn't for the Kotobukiya figure, this issue would be non-existant. Different names for nameable characters exist, like they always did. There's absolutely no reason to split articles. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 18:00, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
::::Darn... had she be named Leaf like the figurine, that would have been more wise of Pokémon as to alleviate a bit the whole Blue/Green shenanigans that the fandom has been stuck with for years. I guess game-npc name takes preference over a figurine assigned name in this case I suppose...--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 19:08, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
:::It all comes down to Japanese names here. If (and only if) the LGPE character's Japanese name is リーフ, the two characters are one and the same. If the characters do not share a Japanese name, then there is nothing connecting the two, aside from both being derived from the unused Gen 1 girl. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 02:00, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
::::If you plan to maintain only one page, then hope that you use the corresponding official artwork, instead of using Leaf’s artwork and call this page Green. [[User:E9310103838|E9310103838]] ([[User talk:E9310103838|talk]]) 07:24, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::If they're two separate characters, a new page for [[Green (game)]] would need to be created. (It's currently a redirect to [[Blue (game)]], because of the localization name switch.) [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 12:02, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
::::Even if Green goes by Blue in Japanese instead of Leaf, everything else about the two still connects them together. she is design-wise obviously not a different character, Red and Blue aren't different characters either and neither would she be, ''unused Gen 1 girl'', Leaf and Green are all the same girl and have always been the same girl. Arguing otherwise is really unnecessarily grasping at straws. Unless Let's Go is of a different separate canon, then perhaps would it be in place for most characters to have a (Let's Go)version page, like how the anime versions of characters often have their own (anime)version page, (manga), Ash(M20) etc.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 17:24, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::Yep, I agree. It's clear that they're one and the same. This page itself already considers Leaf to be the same as the "unused Gen 1 girl" -- which is Green/Blue in Let's Go. Design-wise, this case is much different from the Kris/Lyra situation. Leaf and Green share the exact same design (brown hair, brown eyes, same hair, same shirt). It's just that the clothes are a little different. They're based on the same "unused Gen 1 girl". It's very obvious they're the same character. Kris and Lyra were different enough to warrant the split, but the same can not be said for Leaf and Green. The page should be renamed to Green. If anyone is still wondering, her Japanese name is indeed Blue (ブルー) in-game as seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J26t65DI7j0 [[User:Sucoleo|Sucoleo]] ([[User talk:Sucoleo|talk]]) 19:18, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::Basically this. It's so obvious that it's meant to be the same character, the only way it could be more conclusive is if Masuda or someone else outright states it. This is more like the Gold/Ethan situation over the Kris/Lyra situation where the new name just replaces the old one in canon (If Leaf could have even been considered canon) rather than a whole new character replacing in canon. It also makes the most sense as the canon name (Red, Blue, Green vs. Red, Blue, Leaf). [[User:Tarawl|Tarawl]] ([[User talk:Tarawl|talk]]) 20:29, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::Look at my side of the argument again. There is no official source indicating Green is derived from Leaf, and visually she's the unused Gen 1 girl with a few elements taken from Leaf. And on top of that, she has a different Japanese name despite Leaf being officially named in Japanese ''during the development of Let's Go''. Given what I've just said, any claim that Leaf and Green are the same character is pure speculation, and we don't deal in speculation. We waited for over three years for a source to say Zygarde was part of a trio despite it being "obvious", so there's no reason for us to claim Green is Leaf without a source. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 04:45, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::I agree with Bwburke94. I propose that we create a new page for the unused female character from Generation I and include information about Green from Pokémon Let's Go on that page. Leaf and Green seem to be strongly indicated to be separate characters; although Leaf is partially based on the unused character from Generation I, there is no evidence at the moment to suggest that they are one and the same. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 05:47, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::Sure. Let's split it into three - "the unnamed Gen I girl", "Leaf the FRLG character" and "Green the NPC". I also recommend making a separate article for the Kotobukiya figure, just in case. Or... I know, maybe let's telephone Junichi Masuda on the matter? Is John Gamefreak's nephew in da house?! *A Poké Ball came flying at you* --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 08:37, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::Dude, don't be like that. You make yourself look dumber than you make us look. We're trying to have a civil discussion about an issue on a Pokémon fan wiki. Being sarcastic like that helps nobody. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 10:03, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::I'm not the one who started talking insane. Really, the game slaps you in the face with obvious evidence, yet you people say "hurr speculation durr unconfirmed". If you need an official statement like "She is/isn't the same character", then in all seriousness, the only way is to contact someone from Game Freak, because official materials will most likely never give you that. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 11:46, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::If you have evidence, then by all means provide it. Keep in mind it needs to prove that Green is Leaf, but not necessarily that Green and/or Leaf is the Gen 1 trainer. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 12:51, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::::[https://twitter.com/revolocities/status/1063193075655237632 For the love of Arceus...]--[[User:YoHaNe|YoHaNe]] ([[User talk:YoHaNe|talk]]) 12:58, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::::I don't think you understood what I meant. The evidence needs to prove that ''Green is Leaf''. Not that Green might be Leaf, or that Green and Leaf share a character pose. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 13:18, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

== Is LGPE Green the same person as Leaf? ==

Starting a new section because the last one got a bit out of hand.

My argument is as follows: Green shares more visual similarities with her Gen 1 design than she does with Leaf, and shares her Japanese name with her Gen 1 design but not with Leaf. Because Leaf's Japanese name was given to her during the development of LGPE, she would have been named as "Blue" (ENG Green) on that figure if she were the same character as Green. Also, there are no official sources that state that Leaf is the same character as either version of Green.

This means that the following course of events is very possible: Nintendo/Game Freak decided to put Red/Blue/Green in LGPE. Because Red and Blue are based on their Gen 1 designs, they chose to use Green from Gen 1 instead of Leaf from Gen 3, despite the fact Green didn't make it into the finished version of Gen 1. Green did take some traits from Leaf, but is still a distinct character of her own.

If any of you can refute that statement, feel free to respond. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 13:39, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:My argument is that the Green we see in LGPE shares all physical features with Leaf and wears a hybrid outfit of hers and Leaf(these similarities were not the case with Kris and Lyra) and are both associated as part of the Kanto trio.

:Back when FRLG came out they updated the original trio, Red got a new outfit, Blue got a new outfit and unused gen 1 girl got a new outfit, she so happened to be named Leaf in the data so that is the name she got stuck with on here, but that holds no merit, Blue was named Terry in the data, so should there be a Terry(game) page? No, of course not. Had she be named Green back then, I'd highly doubt we would be having this discussion and everyone would easily accept that it is the same character just like everyone accepts that fact for Red and Blue.

:We never needed official sources that confirmed that Red and Blue from FRLG were the same characters from RGB, but we need one now for Green? I'm sorry but I'm genuinely baffled.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 14:20, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

::Your argument relies on the assumption that Leaf is directly based on the protagonist from the unused Pokémon art. The creators never confirmed this, only that she drew inspiration from that character. This new Green is inspired by both the unused character and Leaf, that part is true, but "inspired by" is not the same as "is the same character". There is overwhelming evidence to support that Red and Blue are the same characters as the original, especially because they have appeared in multiple games before this. I would also like to add that Leaf's FR/LG appearance is drastically different from the unused character than Red and Blue's appearances compared to their Gen I counterparts, so it seems to me that Game Freak decided to recycle some old concepts while creating Leaf and then return to their original plan for Pokémon Let's Go. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 14:28, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:::You people really overestimate Kotobukiya's value. It's not a Game Freak source (and we don't know their philosophy of naming player characters - for example, if they made a GSC male character figure and named it "Gold", would you split Ethan's article into two? Or if they made an USUM-based "Ailey" figure?) and the FR/LG data name is just unused beta content. The pose and design of her LGPE appearance makes it blindingly clear that they meant Green to represent both the FR/LG girl character and the unused Gen I girl. Of course they wouldn't make her appear in her full FR/LG attire, because that'd be inconsistent with Red and Green's designs in these games. But they gave her some FR/LG elements in order to make her recognizable (not that it was ever a problem to recognize her - to me, Red's Gen I and Gen III designs are way more apart than Green's, but that's of course an opinion). How is it speculation? It's simply logic. I know that Bulbapedia loves denying things until an unambiguous answer is shoved into our faces. But treating the two as separate is just as speculative than treating them as one (I'd say way more speculative, considering that GF is obviously trying to bring their appearances together). They are different characters, but only because of multiverse and in this logic, we would have to split literally everyone. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 14:37, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

::::I propose a compromise because this argument is getting to be ridiculous. We rename this page to Green, but restructure the entire page, starting from the unused character art from Generation I, include a section about Leaf, and finally get to Pokémon Let's Go. In the page itself we should address the character's complicated history. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 14:41, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:::::That I find better than splitting into separate pages--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 14:48, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:::::: I never imagined that a small inquiry I made a few days ago would lead to a bigger argument than the {{ga|Elio}}/{{ga|Selene}} vs Ray/Ailey debate that started one year ago and lasted until about a month ago. Welcome to Bulbapedia again! [[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn (Pokémon Sun Trainer ID: 768426)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 15:03, 17 November 2018 (UTC) (P.S. Splitting this thread into two sections was a wise idea, [[User:bwburke94|bwburke94]].)

:::::::There would also be the header at the top of the page about it having been proposed to split the page into separate pages with the Shedinja.--[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 15:54, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

::::::::IMO, “Leaf” and “Green” are clearly the same character. Green’s design is a hybrid of the designs of the female player character from FRLG and the beta character from Red and Blue. (Her dress is black like in RB, and it has the same ring as the top as it does in FRLG. Additionally, the yellow bag and the hairstyle (without the hat) is the same from FRLG.) She was revealed alongside Red and Blue and she plays a similar role in game to both of them. Heck, her new name even is parallel to Red and Blue’s. It makes sense that the female player character, the male player character, and the rival would be highly connected. I think that just because her new name doesn’t match with a fan name that was given to her long ago and picked up by a non-GAMEFREAK source should not dictate that two characters who, by examining the designs and the roles they play, are the same character, are NOT the same character. But that’s just my opinion. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 16:07, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:::::::::I had just resolved the argument with a compromise and you come in to initiate it again. *sighs* --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 16:11, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::I just wanted to provide my input :/ --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 16:14, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::Well, I'm glad at least that you did so in a reasoned, professional manner, I would honestly have rather had the original discussion with you involved. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 16:19, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::Thank you :) --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 16:23, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::I'd accept the compromise of covering them both on one page, ''as long as'' we continue to call the FRLG character "Leaf". Within the context of FRLG, only one character can reasonably be called "Green" and it isn't her. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 16:44, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::I respectfully disagree... If a canon name is brought in for an official character where there was none before, I don't see the point in continuing to refer to the character as an older fan name for the older games. (For reference, there was a similar discussion at [[Talk:Ethan (game)]] where there was a discussion over the names Gold vs. Ethan.) Besides, there really isn't any other character who can reasonably be called Green in FRLG— we refer to the rival character in FRLG as Blue even though the games are Fire''Red'' and Leaf''Green''. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 18:41, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::In that case, it's not a compromise at all, is it? [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 18:56, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::To Bwburke94: Yes, that is true. I see the point of compromises, but I think it might be better to have more accurate information in this scenario. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 19:36, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::I'm agreeing with renaming because it seems to be her new official name. Along with an edit to the name origin section that would explain the naming confusion. [[User:Tarawl|Tarawl]] ([[User talk:Tarawl|talk]]) 20:01, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:What was the reason why we called the character "Leaf" in the first place, anyway? All I know is that it comes from the female name list of LG, which contains both "Leaf" ''and'' "Green" just like the male name list. Isn't "Leaf" just something fans generally agreed upon in the absence of a single, official name? If that's the case, I see no problem renaming the page "Green". [[User:Immblueversion|Immblueversion]] ([[User talk:Immblueversion|talk]]) 19:33, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::It was a placeholder in the data of FRLG. It's addressed on her page.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 20:04, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
:::Indeed. Nintendo never officially referred to her as that; we only used the placeholder name because we didn't have a more "official" name. Now that she has finally been given a proper name by the games, I see no reason to keep the current name. [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 21:21, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
::::The reason she is called Leaf is because it makes more sense within the context of FireRed and LeafGreen. Red and Green in those games are the protagonist and the rival, and since there is no WaterBlue, it makes sense to call the female protagonist option "Leaf" because that way it still parallels the rival's name "Green". And once again, as Bwburke94 and I have said numerous times, we don't HAVE accurate information for this topic. The indication, from our perspective, is strong that there isn't proof Leaf is the same character as Green, but we are willing to come halfway.--[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 21:34, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:::::In FRLG, the rival's name is "Blue" in the west and "Green" in Japan. This is reversed for the female protag where she is now confirmed to be "Green" in the west and "Blue" in Japan. It makes 100% sense for the female protagonist to be called Green (ブルー in Japanese). In fact, the name "Leaf" doesn't make sense in a naming standpoint due to them being named after the 3 colours of the games. 21:42, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:::::Depends on what you consider proof, I think there is an abundance of proof.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 21:49, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

:::::What proof do you need to accept that they're the same character? Just look at them! Their faces, hair, eye color and bags are identical or close to it, and the top of Green's dress is clearly designed to look reminiscent of Leaf's shirt, except color-flipped.[https://www.serebii.net/letsgopikachueevee/rgb/green1.jpg][https://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/4/48/FireRed_LeafGreen_Leaf.png] Red had more changes between his original design and his FR/LG redesign. Do we also need proof that "Gold" and Ethan are the same character? [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 01:56, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

::::::I am afraid this is getting out of hand again… All the debate and contention generated by the Elio/Selene-vs-Ray/Ailey controversy in one year is now being surpassed by this discussion in less than a month. Time to close this section and start a new one below… [[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn (Pokémon Sun Trainer ID: 768426)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 04:06, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

{{indent}}…which I just did right now. The previous thread became just as long as the first one (roughly four 768px-tall browser screens long). And since I was the one who initiated the conversation in the first place, I decided not to take an official stance in this debate — I’ll let you duke it out while I watch the ongoing events. Welcome to Bulbapedia again! [[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn (Pokémon Sun Trainer ID: 768426)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 04:06, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
:You don't have to create a new section when a discussion gets too long for your liking. Just leave it be. If the chain of comments is getting to confusing, just reset the indents (it's what <nowiki>{{indent}}</nowiki> is for).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:19, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

::My comment above was deleted, so I am re-posting it here to continue the above discussion. It makes sense in the context of the series as a whole, but for FR/LG Leaf makes more sense as a counterpart to Green, since a "WaterBlue" doesn't exist in either Japan or America. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 05:40, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
:::... So what if there is no WaterBlue. An identical looking girl exists in association with Red and Blue, it makes sense for the franchise if that girl is the same girl like the other two boys are the same boys.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 10:27, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

::Just to contest a common point being brought up here: Kotobukiya is not a "Game Freak" source, but this does not make it unofficial. Someone at The Pokemon Company obviously had to take a look at the product before deciding that it was an accurate representation of the franchise and gave it the official seal of approval. TPC has a storied history of strictness and standards in interacting with these affiliates. Despite Let's Go already being in development at the time of the figure's conception, they clearly had no issue with Leaf as the character's name. Unless the staff is interested in introducing a magical "degrees of canonicity" system, I don't see why it should be discredited. There are a wellspring of things on the wiki considered canonical by current standards that haven't been directly echoed by Game Freak gospel, but have been run by TPC/TPCI and are considered fine--[[User:ThePacisBack|ThePacisBack]] ([[User talk:ThePacisBack|talk]]) 10:36, 18 November 2018 (UTC).
:::Kotobukiya is definitely an official source— we used it for the names of Elio and Selene— but information in the games themselves that would contradict what something like Kotobukiya says would definitely override it. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 13:48, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
::::Problem is, there is no "information in the games themselves" to state that Leaf and Green are the same person. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 14:31, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::What would be information in the games that states that Red in LGPE is the same one as the one from RGB or FRLG?--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 14:46, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::His name, for one. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 15:47, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
::Leaf indeed as an official name now. Not only the names of all Kotobukiya collections are taken from the official name. (Even the official names of several characters are used for publicity for the first time. Before that, they were only called male and female protagonists in publicity.) They even invited Ken Sugimori to draw the model of Red's figure of Pokemon Center Original. Prove that the name they adopted is recognized by GF. Regardless of whether Blue(Green) and Leaf are in the same character or how to deal with this page, I Just want to defend the name "Leaf" XD. Unlike Fire(FRLG Red) as an fan name and Ray/Ailey as half official names (They have never been officially confirmed). By the way, Gold(Jimmy) and Ethan obviously in the anime as different characters XD [[User:E9310103838|E9310103838]] ([[User talk:E9310103838|talk]]) 15:46, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::The gen 1 protagonist was named Satoshi and the rival was named Shigeru, then the rival in FRLG was named Terry, seems like if Leaf should be a separate character than so should good ol' Terry, Satoshi and Shigeru--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 16:05, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::Danyyel, I feel like a more accurate comparison would be the male player character in GSC vs HGSS: How do we know that "Gold" and Ethan are one and the same? The answer, at least to someone around the time that HGSS came out, is common sense. Very similar design, same role in-game, etc. Similar case with Elio vs. "Ray", or "Leaf" vs. the scrapped character from Red and Blue, for that matter. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 16:09, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::(responding to Bwburke94) Sure there is; their designs. PLG Green is literally Leaf with different clothes and an extra fringe on her forehead. Can you name two player characters who look identical like Green and Leaf do yet are considered separate characters? [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 19:03, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

{{indent}} At the moment, we're keeping it on one page. However, in contexts referring to the FRLG protagonist, she should be referred to as "Leaf", and in contexts referring to the LGPE NPC, she should be referred to as "Green" (in the same manner as we treat items and moves that have been renamed). If/when the Kotobukiya figurine gets released by TPCi in English, this decision will be reevaluated. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 03:46, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

:I Also think we should have the article separation header with the Shedinja ("this article has been suggested to be split into Green (game) and Leaf (game). Please talk about it on the discussion page..."). It HAS been suggested and it's only fair we give notice so the choice can be re-evaluated when there's more information in the future. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 12:52, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

::I added the page splitting header for pages that have been suggested to be split into multiple articles. As it HAS been suggested, it's only fair; this does not mean the page will actually be split yet. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 10:16, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

:::Honestly I don't think they should be split, and should be just simply referred to as Green. Leaf and Green have similar facial structures, hairstyles, hair color, eye color, and even the same bag. Heck, both her and Red's VS models in Pikachu & Eevee are both nods to their sprites in FRLG. As for her outfit, in the context of Pikachu & Eevee both Red and Blue both use their Gen I designs, so it does make sense that Green's outfit is designed similarly to the prototype female character. As for her name, it's most likely a simple establishment that her name is Green. Similar to Ethan in GSC, it was never established in the games her name was Leaf. Leaf only came from internal game data, which referred to her as such. Granted Kotobukiya did announce a figurine of her under Leaf, but that's all it is, an announcement. For all we know the name could be changed when her figurine is officially released. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 16:45, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

:::It seems to me that the only argument that people have in favor of them being separate characters is their different names. Which, if you ask me, is a pretty weak argument, seeing how she was never called Leaf in the games. PLG was the first time the games gave her a canon name; Leaf can be seen as more of a placeholder name in lieu of a real name, like Gold. Everything else about Leaf and Green supports them being the same character, with their nigh identical designs, and the fact that Green is paired with Red and Blue in PLG. I agree that she should only be referred to as Green by the article. Moreover, while PLG Green's look is clearly based on the design of the unused female player character from Gen I, they altered it to make her look more like Leaf. If Game Freak had intended for her to be seen as a separate character, you would expect them to make her look ''less'' like Leaf, not the other way around. [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 21:24, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

::::As far as Game Freak is concerned, they seem to be treated as separate characters, although Leaf is based on Green. Even in materials published since the release of Let's Go, merchandise and references that allude to the character from FR/LG are referred to under the name "Leaf" (or are otherwise not named at all, like in SSBU) while materials referring to the character from Let's Go Pikachu and Let's Go Eevee refer to her as Green (or Blue, in Japanese). The blue on Green's clothing is a reference to her Japanese name, it's not intended to make her look more like Leaf. Even discounting these facts, there is a lot of circumstantial evidence that suggests they are not meant to be the same character, such as the fact that Leaf is used in media as interchangeable with Red (e.g. Super Smash Brothers Ultimate) and does not have much of a personality, while Green is given her own, more mischievous personality and does not merely function as a mirror to Red (if Green and Leaf were indeed interchangeable, either the FR/LG character would be more fleshed out in her appearances or Green would only repeat "..." in Pokémon Let's Go). If nothing else, separating the pages into Leaf and Green would make it easier for casual Bulbapedia users to follow the content; especially if the Green page incorporated information about the unused player character that we currently have under the unused character designs page. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 05:42, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

:::::Even if they are the "same character", there is enough variation in the portrayals of her between games that it could warrant two separate articles. It's similar to how there's separate pages for Ash from the main show and Ash from the I Choose You universe. The FR/LG portrayal of this character is different enough from the Let's Go portrayal of the character that it's easier to follow if there are two separate articles. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 05:53, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

::::::So then by that, then should the player characters that act as NPCs, such as Ethan, Lyra, Dawn, Lucas, etc. deserve their own articles as NPCs since they exude a personality other than silent protagonist and aren't mirrors to the player character when so. Green can be easily seen in a similar vein to the aforementioned player characters when they're NPCs, since Red has already been long established to be the canon player character of the Gen I games and their remakes. Also why are you using a game that isn't even developed by Game Freak as proof that Leaf and Green aren't the same? Smash Bros. Ultimate is developed by Sora, Ltd. and Namco Bandai, not Game Freak. Lastly, the only thing that refers to Green as "Leaf" is the internal data (which isn't very consistent, and isn't used as a basis for naming characters, ala Barry, Elio, and Selene), and the Kotobukiya figurine '''''announcement''''', as in the figurine hasn't been officially released, and the name could potentially change once it's released. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 18:05, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

:::::"The blue on Green's clothing is a reference to her Japanese name, it's not intended to make her look more like Leaf." < The blue sections on PLG Green's clothes reflect the pattern on Leaf's shirt. Their chest areas look really similar, except color-flipped. You think this is a coincidence? There's also the fact that PLG Green was given the same face and eyes as Leaf, despite her original design having a different face.[https://www.serebii.net/letsgopikachueevee/rgb/green1.jpg][https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Kensugiart4.png] You could argue that her face was redesign to match Sugimori's modern style, but that alone wouldn't explain why her face is a copypaste of Leaf's when other female characters drawn by Sugimori have different faces and eye colors. [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 00:35, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

== Infobox picture ==

Given the unusual nature of this article post-move, would it make sense to use LGPE Green's model for the infobox picture? Having a picture of "Leaf" directly below the name "Green" is a bit weird, but LGPE Green doesn't have any official art that I know of... [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 09:00, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

There's concept art and she'll most likely have official art down the road whenever they decide to use that. The concept art will most likely be used in the infobox until the official art releases, while the FRLG art would be sent to the "other art" infobox near the bottom of the page. I'd be completely fine if all characters had main series designs carried on the main info box though like how Pokemon show their forms, with the current design being the biggest image on it. [[User:TrainerSplash|TrainerSplash]] ([[User talk:TrainerSplash|talk]]) 06:24, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

There is this [https://twitter.com/Paulrobertryan/status/1066694445167517698 settei art...] But in the art-book there are [https://nintendosoup.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/pokemon-letsgo-red-green-official-art-1.jpg more proper individual artworks more befitting for the infobox], there are ones for Red and Blue and I would assume then also for Green. I suppose we wait for the art-book.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 10:58, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Some of the "proper" (i.e. non-settei) arts may also be in the Strategy Guide (English and/or Japanese), in the main walkthrough part. A good quality scan would be much appreciated. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 21:53, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

== The "Green/Leaf" title is REALLY necessary? ==

I don't understand why there's a whole bureaucracy with her name compared to all the other characters.

Honestly... she was NEVER called "Leaf" in any official media. This name was taken from the internal files of the games, which is understandable to use this name until the present time, because it was the closest of a name that we had for her.

But it was never completely introduced into the canon of story, it was always a conjecture that the fandom settled over time. But now that she's finally got her name formally introduced as "Green/Blue" in the games, it seems that this commodity is hindering leaving the name "Leaf" aside.

The same applies to the character "Silver" as we believe it to be his name on bases that are just conjecture. If he has an official name one day, chances are it will be something different. Will we simply put on his page: "Canon name/Silver"? Doesn't sound professional to me.

It's been revealed that her name is Green/Blue, so be it...
Just put in the trivias that her files on FireRed/LeafGreen is named "Leaf", which may be just a "provisional name" which is perfectly common in games archives. [[User:SuzukiTenma|SuzukiTenma]] ([[User talk:SuzukiTenma|talk]]) 18:35, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
: I think a lot of people are getting hung up on the announcement of her Kotobukiya ArtFx J figurine, which refers to her as "Leaf", rather than "Green". Granted it's only an announcement and the name of the figurine could change once released, however the games should definitely take precedence for names of characters. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 23:07, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
:: My argument does revolve around the figurine, but also around the fact that there's no evidence of the two being the same character. My view on this has always been that Leaf and Green are two separate characters derived from the unused Gen I trainer. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 02:53, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
:::If "Leaf" and Green were intended to be separate, then their designs should reflect that, similar to Kris and Lyra, yet they don't. If a simple outfit change is enough to make a whole new character, then, for example, May from RS is not the same from E, and neither are the same from ORAS. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 01:54, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
::::See my response to the Gold/Ethan query below. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 01:42, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
: I agree there isn't much sense in keeping "Leaf" in the infobox and opening paragraph. Even with the Kotobukiya figure being named that, it was never used in the games, so it should be irrelevant. As said, it's just a placeholder name. I recall Red being officially called "Ash" ages ago in a poll asking about what Nintendo characters players would like to see Smash, yet we're not calling him "Red/Ash" in his infobox, are we? [[User:Ericss|Ericss]] ([[User talk:Ericss|talk]]) 00:56, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
:: And {{ga|Ethan}} was called Gold until HeartGold/SoulSilver came out but there's no references to his old name. There's no Ethan/Gold in his infobox, and the article consistently called him Ethan, even in places talking about GSC. And the Pokémon Gold manual has called him Gold, not just in screenshots but also in the story page. I don't know if the Pokémon Silver manual called him Silver in the story summary, but Leaf/Green is a similar situation to Gold/Ethan. Ethan was Gold for a decade. Green was Leaf for fourteen years. And they got renamed by their appearance as an NPC. People are arguing that the Green from Let's Go is a different person from Leaf, but if that's the case, could Ethan be a different person from Gold? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 05:45, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
::: I'll respond to both Sean and Sinjoh here. Gold/Ethan have a different name but basically the same design, while May has the same name ''and'' a very similar design across all three of her appearances. In fact, Emerald May is a direct palette swap of RS May. Meanwhile, Leaf/Green have both different names and different designs. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 01:42, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
::::What do you mean they have different designs? As I and others said, PLG Green is ''identical'' to Leaf besides the clothing. Red and Brendan's redesigns had ''more changes than her.'' [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 03:44, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
:::::I strongly agree... Just look at Elio, his redesign in Ultra is very different than his original design in SM, yet we are still considering him the same character, as we should continue to. I don't see why we have to apply a different set of logic to this character just because a placeholder name has been replaced with an official one. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 18:24, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
::::::The difference with Elio/Selene is that we have an official source to state they are the same characters. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 08:17, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
:::::::Wrong, Selene and Elio are only referred to as such in their SM designs, not their USUM designs. All the evidence people brought regarding their names comes from material that refers to material involving SM, not USUM. Also, you have yet to answer how "Leaf" and Green have different designs past their outfits, as they look very similar to one another. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 12:04, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
::::::::Yep, AFAIK the SM designs are the only ones that have been referred to as Elio and Selene. The names Ray and Ailey have been used in prerelease media for USUM. So the case is the same here; why do we need to use different logic for Green? --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 13:43, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Sorry if i'm getting the whole context wrong, but going by that whole rationale, shouldn't we also apply "Brendan/Landon" to [[Brendan (game)]], since we have the [[Landon (Groundbreakers 41)|Landon]] figure from the TFG? (which is clearly intended to be based off the 'playable' Brendan from Ruby)

Personally, I'm opposed to this whole "Green/Leaf" and "Brendan/Landon" thing.

IMO, '''Green''' should be her main designation for most uses to avoid unneeded convolution.

I don't think insisting on using "Leaf" within the context of FireRed/LeafGreen holds much ground any longer. If we use the internal data to justify that, we'd have to use Terry as [[Blue (game)|Blue]]'s name within the context of FR/LG too. Otherwise "Leaf" is just one of her many default names (as valid as "Fire", "Green", "Red", "Hillary", "June", "Rey", etc)

While figures ARE official and directly based on the games, they're just interpretations, supplementary (and not integral) in nature.

Thus, I think we should only use "Leaf" in sections referring to the Kotobukiya figure, for now. -- [[User:Yagamitaichi|Yagamitaichi]] ([[User talk:Yagamitaichi|talk]]) 02:33, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

:The reason I believe that this should be split into separate pages is because I feel it would make it easier for users of Bulbapedia to follow, especially given the elaborate and complex history of this character. We can retitle the page to just "Green" if you want, but too many articles on this very wiki refer to this character as "Leaf" to simply change the name. Nobody calls Brandon "Landon". I insist that we continue to refer to the character from FR/LG as just "Leaf" on the page. I also think it is very important to start this article with information on the unused character from R/B/G/Y because this page is a mess at the moment. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 02:47, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
::Yagamitaichi, I like your solution: refer to her as Green within contexts of LGPE and FRLG, and as Leaf for the figure for now.

::I don't really see the point in making a page split for two iterations of the same character IMO. It's much simpler and easier to follow to keep all the information on her on one page. Let's just change everything to Green apart from references to the figure. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 02:52, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

:::We do not have PROOF that they are the same character, but even that's besides the point. You are also ignoring that we resolved this issue with an earlier compromise (make one page but refer to her as "Leaf" in the context of FRLG) and people keep bringing the topic back up to try and push their view. The reason being that Green is clearly an attempt to revive the old unused character, while Leaf may or may not be a separate thing entirely. If it was "so obvious" they were the same character the whole time, why keep information about the unused character on a separate page until the release of LGPE, which doesn't prove anything other than to reintroduce the idea of the character of Green? --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 03:20, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
::::FWIW I think people should get to share their own opinions about the matter. If their opinions are, like mine, that we should be using one name for the two iterations of this character, then so be it.

:::: I do remember that the unused character's information was, prior to this whole debate, on this page, and I believe that it still should be, as it is a clear predecessor Green, but I don't understand how that changes anything about Green or "Leaf". If anything, IMO, it only serves to cement that Green from LGPE and Green from FRLG are one and the same.

::::I'd like to go back to your first sentence though. I hope this doesn't come across as rude, but how is Green vs Leaf any different from any redesign for a main character in the past, many of which are even more drastic than this? --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 04:01, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

:::::Although I still stand by my opinion, I am grateful to you for being civil and courteous on the matter and for discussing this in a rational way. Of course people should be allowed to share their opinion; however, I think we should stick with the compromise for now. To answer your question, the difference is in the complicated history of the character. The original unused character was never given a name or even made canon, and so everything that has come after, be it Green or Leaf, can only be seen as interpretations of the character. The Gold/Ethan thing doesn't count because "Gold" was an established character from the beginning, and the Brandon/Landon thing doesn't count because Brandon was an official name and an established character by the time of that figure's release. The LGPE Green was given her name as a reference to Pokémon Adventures and to canonize the unused character, which suggests, at least to me, that they intended for Leaf to be a separate character. Since we've been treating Leaf as a separate character from the unused character from the time of FRLG's release to the time of LGPE's release, I think we should stick with treating them as separate characters for consistency. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 09:35, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
::::::I think I understand your position a little bit more. However, up until November 16 of this year, information on the unused female protagonist was on this page-- we had been treating them as the same up until then, as I also believe we should continue to in the future. Additionally, I think that "Gold" from GSC was just as much of an established character as "Leaf" from FRLG. I don't really think that LGPE Green was given the name "Green" to canonize the unused character and to reference Pokémon Adventures, as she didn't really have a canon name prior to LGPE, just a placeholder name that was widely adopted by the community.

::::::Basically, at least from how I see it, she didn't have a canon name before, and now she has one which is more in line with her [[Red (game)|two]] [[Blue (game)|counterparts]], and she also has a design which merges aspects of her two older designs.--[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 15:59, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

:::::::I second this. Naming her after Pokémon Green/Blue is only natural, after they named the male protagonist and rival after the other versions. The naming scheme isn't exclusive to Pokémon Adventures, so I don't see it as a reference to it. In fact, that wasn't even the only manga to name her that. Her counterpart in Pokémon Pocket Monsters[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Blue_(Ruby-Sapphire)] is called Blue too, despite being clearly based on Leaf from the remakes. [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 02:39, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

:::::::::Obviously they can be the same people. The USUM artbook even has a picture of Elio and Selene (SM style) direct replacement for new clothing. [[User:E9310103838|E9310103838]] ([[User talk:E9310103838|talk]]) 00:21, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
{{indent}}So the way the article is currently written, it seems to be treating Green’s iterations from FRLG and LGPE as the same character. Putting my personal opinions on whether they’re the same character or not aside, this still to me seems super confusing. I know I’m beating a dead horse but honestly it’s ridiculous to have two names for (what we are treating as) one character. Assuming that they’re the same character, why does her being explicitly given a name in LGPE not override whatever Kotobukiya decides to name their figure, especially before it’s even officially released? Using two names for one character is honestly just confusing as hell to read, and the fact that one is from the games explicitly and the other is not just adds to that.

We should use one name universally if we’re going to treat Green as one character, which seems to be what BP is wanting to do. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 13:14, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

== To be or not to be that's the question. (Or why is that even a question in the first place?) ==

So, let's have one final discussion regarding any controversies on "Leaf" and "Green" being the same person or not (let's not confuse with this with the Green/Leaf naming controversy, which is a different, albeit closely related issue). The older ones seems to have become overlong and riddled with personal opinions without much regard to actual evidence on both sides. Things just got harder and harder to follow as time went on.

Pros:

* Same hairstyle as seen on FRLG and Gen I artwork.
* Obvious FRLG influences on her attire (backpack is exactly the same from FRLG, and that little pattern on the collar is now blue)
* Red and Blue are 'slightly updated' Gen I-like designs, so Green was changed accordingly to fit the theme (Remember Sugimori said he just updated the Gen I girl for the female FRLG protagonist, rather than creating a new character from scratch).
* "Leaf" trademark pose from the FRLG Trainer Card is the same as Green's challenging pose from LGPE, hair flip and all.

Cons:

* Someone asked Ken Sugimori on Twitter about her default FRLG name, and he responded "Leaf... Maybe?"
** However, 'default name' in a broader sense, 'may' not necessarily mean the same thing as the "canon name" to be used throughout the game series. The [[Blue (game)|Generation I Rival]]'s canon name is "Blue" for example, despite that not being a default name for him in [[Pokémon Blue]] or the remakes.

It's extremely unlikely anyone from The Pokémon Company or Game Freak will ever issue a formal, definite statement on such a simplistic matter. So I think the best solution would be a voting session once we compile a few more Pros and Cons. -- [[User:Yagamitaichi|Yagamitaichi]] ([[User talk:Yagamitaichi|talk]]) 15:40, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
:The figure outright calls her Leaf, which I suppose is a "con" for those who think they're one and the same. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 17:59, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
::The '''announcement'''. Why do people forget that? The figure hasn't been released yet, and could easily change upon release. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 18:52, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
:An additional pro on the deisgn front could be the wrist bands. They're black in the FrLg design and white in the LGP!E! design, but that could be because the Gen 1 design had white gloves, which makes the wrists bands an interesting fusion of the two accessories from those two previous designs. [[User:Nikkie2571|Nikkie2571]] ([[User talk:Nikkie2571|talk]]) 19:27, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

{{indent}}May I remind everyone what abcboy said in his comment: "If/when the Kotobukiya figurine gets released by TPCi in English, this decision will be reevaluated." Any sort of poll or discussion is moot. Until the figure gets '''released''' and we know what its name is (whether it'll be leaf or green), ''then'' something will be done. All this back and forth is just a pointless waste of time and effort for something that isn't going to happen until the figure gets released.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:29, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
:I don't see anything wrong with having the discussion anyways... --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 03:39, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
::Discussion about what? As far as I'm aware, the discussion of what to name this page was already resolved and ended with abcboy's comment. Any other discussion should be left to the forums.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:50, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
:::I just don't really like the idea of restricting discussion. I personally find it interesting to participate in discussions and read what others have to say. After all, that is what the talk pages are for. I don't think it would be suited towards the forums because it is about this Bulbapedia page at its core. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 04:41, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
:::@ForceFire, discussion about whether Leaf and Green are the same person, since someone decided to add a "The contents of this article have been suggested to be split into Green (game) and Leaf (game)" banner at the top of Green's page after abcboy's comment. And to be honest, my major problem with the Leaf/Green thing is why a figurine is being used for her official name, when the games should be taking precedence over supplementary materials. Back when HGSS released, it was pretty much determined that Gold would be henceforth known as Ethan, regardless of the supplementary materials, such as the game guides or instruction booklets bundled with GSC, referring to him as Gold. Similarly with Brendan, he was referred to as "Orlando" in the ORAS demo, but the name Brendan was still kept when ORAS officially released. With Selene/Elio, since neither were given names outside of internal data, which is typically inconsistent for many PCs, it was decided to use supplementary materials for the basis of both of their names. Administration more or less set a precedent that the games come first before supplementary materials, and I don't understand why this precedent isn't being followed upon with Green. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 16:19, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

I think this is not difficult to understand XD. In remake line, she was named Leaf (Gen 2 girl named Lyra in this line), and in original line, she was named Blue/Green (Gen 2 girl named Crys in this line).

She can be the same character or a different character. In some respects, the judgment of Pokemon Adventures manga is justified. Although I know that some people
don’t think so.

This page does not need to be split in my opinion. Crys/Lyra, Gold/Ethan, Elio, and Selene things already confused enough. I only want to change infobox picture to LGPE instead of continuing to use Leaf's picture.

By the way, Kotobukiya has not changed her name and continues to use it now. Leaf does exist as an official name. [[User:E9310103838|E9310103838]] ([[User talk:E9310103838|talk]]) 00:28, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
::Kris and Lyra have been confirmed to be separate characters, unlike Ethan, Elio, and Selene. Also except for the figurine, Leaf was never officially used as a name for the character. In addition, as far as I'm aware and can find, the figurine was announced as Leaf, and has yet to actually be released. Something that is announced can easily change once it's released, and also, let's not forget that the announcement came out shortly before Pikachu & Eevee, and at that point we had no confirmation that even Red or Blue were going to appear. She may've initially intended to be named "Leaf" in Pikachu & Eevee, but changed late in development, or the artist who designed the artwork for the figurine, Hitoshi Ariga, was unaware that she was going to be called Green in Pikachu & Eevee (he didn't work on Pikachu & Eevee, so this is possible), calling her Leaf, since that was the fan consensus name for her at that point. Fact of the matter, we don't know ''who'' exactly coined her Leaf, whether it was someone at Game Freak or Kotobukiya. Even so, the staff on Bulbapedia have already made precedence that the games come before any sort of supplementary material, as is the case of Ethan upon release of HGSS, and if there is nothing in the games that indicates a name, excluding internal data, as this varies for some PCs, then supplementary material should be used, as was the case with Elio and Selene. I would expect staff to be consistent on matters like this, as it reflects poorly on them, as they're backtracking on a convention they had already established. If a staff member went, "Much like Ethan in HGSS, Pikachu & Eevee establish that Leaf's official name is Green" there would probably be some people who would disagree with this, much like Ethan, but most of the people here would not be vocal about this as they are now. [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 03:32, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
:::For real, somebody's going to have to ask one of the Game Freak higher-ups like Junichi Masuda if they intended for Green from Let's Go Pikachu Eevee and the player character from FRLG to be the same person. At this point, that's the only way we're going to resolve this. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 04:22, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
{{indent}}To continue to beat a dead horse, I still, after this time, think we should remove all references to the character being called "Leaf".

We know a couple of things:
* We are currently treating Green from FRLG and Green from LGPE as the same character, as we should continue to do, since we have in the past with character differences between generations with much bigger design changes and functional differences. See Elio, Selene, Blue, etc...
* Green is the name used in LGPE. There is no official name used in FRLG.
** "Leaf" was the name that Kotobukiya used prior to LGPE's release.
*** Kotobukiya figures are not the main games.
* TPCI has [[Ethan (game)|changed character names before]]. The solution was to go with the most recent name. This name change applied retroactively to games before the name change, like this article is currently NOT doing.
* In the past, Bulbapedia has prioritized information in the main games over secondary sources. Currently, this precedent is not being applied here.
* <s>Not that it matters, but this is one of the things that other Pokemon forums make fun of Bulbapedia for-- I've seen this exact debate being used as evidence of Bulbapedia's incompetency on more than one occasion.</s>

The obvious solution is to call Green by her canonical name. Besides, as I mentioned above, the article is incredibly confusing as it stands. The whole Green/Leaf debacle turned what was previously a serviceable article into kind of a jumbled mess, and one of our poorer articles, just because of a difference in name and a minor change in design. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 01:23, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

[https://www.bandai.co.jp/candy/products/2019/1000136258.html A new Leaf figure was made by Bandai], and it specifically states she is Leaf, the girl proatgonist of ''Fire Red and Leaf Green'', without mentioning Blue from ''Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee''. This is the same case as the Kotobukiya figure, [https://www.kotobukiya.co.jp/product/product-0000003255/ in the description of the final product].--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 12:58, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
:I still don't understand how any figures are relevant at all. Games always, always, always take priority and I don't see why we should ignore a long-standing precedent for a single character. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 14:28, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
::''Fire Red and Leaf Green'' actually had ''Leaf'' as internal name for her and did not give a direct name to the girl protagonist, so the figures using that name aren't against what the games state, since they specifically mention that they are representing the girl protagonist of ''Fire Red and Leaf Green''.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:16, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
:::LGPE overrides that (or at least it should, considering previous actions and precedents here on Bulbapedia). LGPE came out in 2018. FRLG came out in 2004. Remember, Gamefreak [[Ethan (game)|has changed names in the past]], and we've changed them to fit, even when referring to before the name change. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 18:35, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
::::My position has been consistent: they're two different people. The fact they have two different names is consistent with that position. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 23:06, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::Good to see that someone isn’t relying on non-canon material, i.e. figures, to support their claim. I have to ask, though: Are Ethan and Gold two separate people? After all, they had different names up until we realized that we should probably keep names consistent.

:::::Besides, the way the article is formatted, it treats Green from FRLG and Green from LGPE as the same character, as we have done with two characters who we can reasonably assume are the same based on function and appearance. Using two different names but keeping them on the same page seems just like a really shitty compromise. Why not improve the article and fix that? --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 01:45, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::I want to ask about this Gold/Ethan thing. Can someone explain to me where both names are used officially? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:47, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
::The name Ethan was first officially used during the release of HeartGold & SoulSilver. Before then, he had no official name as the Pokémon Gold instruction book called him ''Gold'' and the Pokémon Silver instruction manual referred to him as ''Silver'', but he was referred to as Gold by fans as people had taken to calling his rival Silver. In all the mangas and most other side projects, the two were referred to as Gold and Silver respectively. Outside of the manga, until Generation IV, Ethan / Gold had no official name. Silver still has no official name himself but that is a different topic. Hope this was helpful. :) ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 18:13, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
:::Yeah, thanks. Barring anything more, that means Ethan/Gold isn't comparable to Leaf/Green. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:55, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
::::For what is worth, I have the Italian Official Nintendo Player's Guide of ''Gold and Silver'', the protagonist is referred to as ''the hero'' (''L'eroe'') and the rival is referred to as ''the rival'' (''Il rivale''), so it looks like the name of the protagonist was indeed added in ''HeartGold and SoulSilver''.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 19:07, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::Alright, my bad. I guess the two pages are not comparable. My point still stands that we should remove any reference to “Leaf”— it muddles the page and I do really think we should strive for name consistency even in the lack of a precedent. I can’t think of any other page that has had this issue but my strong opinion is that for this page and for future pages we should replace older names with newer ones, even when referring to before the name change. I think I’ve made my stance and my reasoning pretty clear. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 12:16, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::Yes it is, the name "Leaf" has never been used in an official capacity by Game Freak, much like Gold. The only time "Leaf" has been used the franchise is non-canonical material, and figurines made by a different company. Even with the figurines, we don't know if Game Freak gave them the names for the characters or if they simply went with what the fans have been referring to her as over the years. Also, again, I have to ask, why the hell are '''''figurines''''' taking precedence over '''''the games''''' in the first place? Pokémon is a video game franchise, not a figurine collecting one. I get why Elio and Selene were named such after their merchandise, since it's the only names being used officially, and the placeholder names in the game data are unused since they can vary from game to game (such as Red), but why are people waiting for a figurine to be released, when the games have given her the name "Green"? [[User:Sinjoh|Sinjoh]] ([[User talk:Sinjoh|talk]]) 12:30, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::Regarding ''"why the hell are '''''figurines''''' taking precedence over '''''the games'''''"''... They are not. FRLG did not give its female PC any name. So, this figure that is specifically referring to FRLG becomes that PC's most canon name.
:::::::Regarding ''"for future pages we should replace older names with newer ones, even when referring to before the name change"''... That's not our policy. We still refer to the [[Dowsing Machine]] as the Itemfinder for the early games. We have, for both Dowsing Machine and Green, moved both pages to use the newer names, but those older names are still to be used for the games they belong to. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:06, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::::No offense, but I find that policy silly and confusing. This article is already convoluted as it is with the whole Green/Leaf debacle, this potentially sets a very dangerous precedent for future articles. Besides, “Itemfinder” was an actual name used in a game. There are no scenarios in which a player will encounter the name “Leaf” in game without setting it for themselves. And that’s not even touching upon the dubious canonicity of the name “Leaf” in general. Green’s “most canon name” IS Green, FRLG or LGPE, because that’s the only name that’s ever been used in a game to describe her. That’s like saying that Red’s name in RBY isn’t Red because he wasn’t called that until GSC.

::::::::The figurines are just as relevant to FRLG as any manuals calling Ethan “Gold” are to GSC. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 15:56, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh, and just one little note: the Dowsing Machine page doesn't say "Dowsing Machine/Itemfinder" in the infobox. Not that the two are comparable. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 21:47, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::::::As above, Ethan/Gold is not comparable to Green/Leaf here. Nor is Red. Red was established by clear story continuity in future games (and remained very consistent); Green does not have any line of story continuity back to FRLG. They are not the same. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:24, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::::As above, the manuals in Ethan/Gold are just as relevant to GSC than the figures for Green/Leaf are to FRLG. Actually, I take that back; they're MORE relevant-- the manuals are included with the games themselves, whereas the figures (in other words, not connected to the games) are made by another company. I guess you're right in that the two pages are not comparable, because this situation is somehow more nonsensical. I don't understand how figures being made by another company are pertinent at all to this discussion.

:::::::::::"Red was established by clear story continuity in future games (and remained very consistent); Green does not have any line of story continuity back to FRLG." This point makes the least sense. If, by some weird decision at Gamefreak, they decided to call Red "Ash" or "Frank" or something in SM, would we still use "Red" for pre-SM because there's "no continuity between the games"?

:::::::::::And again, unlike Red, the name "Leaf" has NEVER been used in the games, only in noncanon materials. How it is still relevant at all is beyond me. There is, however, a name that HAS been used in the games, and people keep coming up with ridiculous, half-assed loopholes to write it off. I'm sorry for being so passionate but it's incredibly frustrating to me that common sense is being thrown out the window for this. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 00:35, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::::::::You agreed above that "the two pages are not comparable". I thought perhaps you had just forgotten but now you're doubling down on trying to wave Ethan/Gold around. I'm super confused by your flip-flopping.
::::::::::::Your "Frank" hypothetical, for all you may mean it to be absurd, has already been answered. Just as we use ItemFinder for the games ''that'' was used in, if GameFreak established a discontinuity and appeared to change "Red"'s name, we'd keep using Red for the games ''that'' was used in. Just as we still use {{m|Faint Attack}} and [[List of modified moves#Name changes|others]]. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:09, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
{{indent}}When I say “I guess you’re right in that the two pages are not comparable”, I was mostly using that for comedic effect, as indicated by the following words. I do think they are similar scenarios but the fact that people are still insisting on using “Green” I think is far more ridiculous, hence the comedic “not comparable.” Sorry for the confusion. Maybe I’m just not good at sarcasm. I’ll try to mark it clearly in the future.

I’ve already explained my counterpoint to that last part. Player character names are, by design, not set in stone. There will never be a player who encounters the name “Leaf” in normal gameplay without explicitly setting it for themselves. In contrast, a player would see the words Itemfinder and Faint Attack in game. I’ve explained this before and I shouldn’t need to again. The same logic can not be applied. I admit that I should not have picked Red for my example, as Red has appeared in a game before. Let’s try a different example— if Nate appeared in a future game with a different name, would we change prior names to fit? I’d hope so, personally.

Again... why is a figure relevant at all in the face of an official name? Perhaps if it were a manual it would be different. /s

By the way, I think I’m allowed to change my opinion on something, or “flip-flop” if you will, if someone brings up a point I didn’t think of, as Sinjoh has. But by now I’m pretty set that yeah, the scenarios on Ethan and Green are pretty damn comparable. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 02:28, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
:I'm going to pause for a moment after only understanding your first line, because I can only suppose that your fervor has made you completely forget something from under a day ago. I'll leave this (the thing I was referring to and the reason for me being "super confused") here and I'd like to know what your response is when we're hopefully both clear. [[Special:Diff/2996403]]
:[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:53, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
::I have now slept and my position is still exactly the same. Please reread my last line.

::I thought they were similar initially, then Frozen Fennec pointed out something that I didn’t realize, so I changed my mind, then Sinjoh pointed out something I didn’t realize, so I changed my mind. I’m allowed to do that if somebody brings up a point that didn’t occur to me. Besides, it barely affected the content of my argument— my position was still the same. I fail to see why it was worth bringing up in the first place, let alone twice. I think my response was pretty clear about it the first time.

::Now can we stop using ad hominems against my wishywashiness or anything else to tiptoe around the actual issue? --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 13:16, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
:::I'm not attacking you for changing your mind. I'm only saying exactly what I said...you incredibly confused me because you didn't acknowledge changing your position or give any reasons. You just looked inconsistent. (That said, I can't tell what you took from Frozen Fennec since they haven't commented since the response I linked from you.)
:::Perhaps I can approach this Ethan and Green thing a little differently. My position is, the FRLG female PC has an official name and so does the LGPE female PC...while the GSC male PC has no official name and the HGSS male PC does. I.e., FRLG/LGPE and GSC/HGSS are not the same. When you say that FRLG/LGPE (Leaf/Green) and GSC/HGSS (Gold/Ethan) are the same, I hear that you think the GSC male PC's official name was Gold...is that correct? (At the risk of saying more than necessary, please answer that last question first and foremost. My position is very secondary, I'm trying to understand yours at the moment.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:42, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
::::Wow, the section has gotten much longer since I last responded. I do want to try adding in some more thoughts to the matter. Sinjoh noted that "Leaf" had never been used or acknowledged as a name but Sugimori teased on Twitter back in 2011 that it is ''maybe'' her official name despite the only other notable things giving her a name were the manga and even then, those were inconsistent as you had two characters based on her named Green and later, Blue. Green, Red, Fire, and Leaf were also all possible default names for her as well in Generation III. I imagine Sugimori stating it was ''maybe'' her name at the time did not help either. I think the ONLY thing that could really be seen as similar at the time is that Leaf / Green and Gold / Ethan both had manga counterparts and was most likely where a lot of people started to pick up calling those two ''Leaf'' and ''Gold'' respectively. Leaf can also be stated to be used ''in-game'' to some capacity if you count that Leaf is the default name given to her in the internal data of the game as has been stated numerous times earlier in the game. I imagine I am probably adding some confusion to this article's talk page and I do apoligize for that.

::::As for a page split which I cannot seem to find any discussion of, I would be ok leaving it as one page for now. If anything, roughly 90% of this page over the past 10 or so years has been nothing but a discussion over whether or not she should be called Leaf or Green. I would modify the header at the top of the page to note that Green / Leaf is called ''Leaf'' by default in the game's internal data to lessen confusion and possibly prevent creating a far longer discussion over her actual name in the long run. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 14:45, 9 July 2019 (UTC
:::::Tiddlywinks, thanks for clarifying. I don’t think that GSC Ethan’s official name is Gold and I definitely don’t think that page should be changed. I’m just extremely confused on how the Pokémon Gold manual isn’t relevant (which I agree with) and a figure is. If we’re applying a line of logic to Ethan we should apply the same logic to Green. I keep bringing up Gold because i think it’s a very good comparison to highlight the disparity of policies used, not to show my own opinions.

:::::To answer your position as concisely as I can: I think that GSC Ethan being called Gold is as official as FRLG Green being called Leaf. Being not much. That’s my stance. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 16:43, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::Then there's the other thing. We're not ignoring the manuals. But going off the details FrozenFennec gave, they gave him different names. If he was Gold (or Joe or whatever) in both, then yeah, we could take that as his name. But since that doesn't seem to be the case...well, we can't prefer one manual and just brush the other aside either. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:23, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::I feel like this is getting into more of a difference of opinions on policies, which I don't really want to get into. I believe that if he was given a different but consistent name in the manuals, then we should still call him Ethan in GSC contexts. One character, one name. But if you really wanted to go that route, then the solution consistent to the Green page would be to use Gold{{sup/2|G}}/Silver{{sup/2|S}} in GSC contexts. (Which, for clarity, is absolutely not what I'm suggesting we do.)

:::::::I still feel like figures are not a reliable source to use for names in the face of an existing name in the games, regardless of which games each name replies to. Merch made by other companies, IMO, is scraping the bottom of the barrel for information, and should really only done if there's a lack of official name, like for Elio and Selene.

:::::::Speaking of Elio and Selene, don't those names only apply to Sun and Moon too, as per the statement for the Kotobukiya figure, and not USUM? Why do we refer to them as Elio and Selene for USUM contexts, but we don't refer to Green as...well, Green for FRLG contexts?

:::::::It seems to me that there are just so many loopholes required to justify not just calling the female player from FRLG by the canon name that they've given her. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 22:55, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::::Fact: we're not going to use a name from later for anything that has an official name in a previous generation. This is very simple. These things MUST be immediately recognizable to anyone playing those games. If a game calls a character Alice but in a remake 5 years later she was called Eve, if someone's playing the first game and they're trying to figure something out here, referring to Eve will just make them wonder, "Who the hell is Eve? This seems like where I am but I don't know her so when is this, then? And why isn't there anything about Alice?" That's not OK.
::::::::(If you want to explain something and then say you don't want that...then I think I'm just going to forego any comment on it. Separately: if you have an issue with Elio and Selene specifically, I suggest taking that to a different talk page.)
::::::::The lack of an official name in the '''specific''' context of FRLG makes the figure merch just as acceptable as for Elio and Selene. While you may think that this cannot hold a candle to a name in a remake later...the short version is that we simply do not agree with you. I have tried explaining the logic; you're denigrating the values. There's not really a lot of persuasion to exercise there. (If you want to seriously accept our values and explain how you think that we should do X for some page if we really want Green's page like this (and if we don't want that then we need to fix Green), we can explore that. But I think you've said it: there is a part of this about opinions that will simply bear no fruit.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:34, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::I've been reluctant to take part in this discussion, but I think right now may be a good moment to add something. If I understood corectly, the lack of an in-game name and therefore usage of a merch name for Green/Leaf in FRLG is comparable to the situation of Elio and Selene in SM and USUM. Also, it appears to me that the names Elio and Selene were given in the context of Sun and Moon specifically and later extended to USUM. So, hypothetically, let's say that both Elio and Selene appeared in USUM as NPCs and were given different names in those games (say, Rick and Cindy). In this situation, how would we deal with the names of those characters? Would Rick and Cindy be used widely, since they had no in-game names before that (and considering that they are the same characters as in Sun and Moon), or would we still call them Elio and Selene when referring to Sun and Moon?
:::::::::I'd like you people to try to picture this situation I described unbiased, so maybe we can extend whatever answer it receives to Green/Leaf as well. And if my logic has any flaws, please point them out, but still try to picure that scenario. [[User:Suic12-|Suic]] ([[User talk:Suic12-|talk]]) 02:10, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::::::To Suic: I would hope that Bulbapedia would only use Rick and Cindy, even when referring to Sun and Moon contexts. They'd never appeared as NPCs before, only as characters named by the player, and the names were essentially made "official" by the Kotobukiya figures. Which I believe is only valid here because there is an absense of anything better.

::::::::::To Tiddlywinks:

::::::::::Calling Kotobukiya calling her "Leaf" "official" is incredibly shaky. And I doubt the average user or FRLG player is going to see the name "Green" and think "well, who the hell is that?" anymore than they would with the name "Leaf". By trying to be "immediately recognizable" we are making this article more confusing, ironically.

::::::::::I don't have an issue with Elio or Selene's pages. I have an issue with the fact that those pages are following one line of logic and this one isn't. I guess my examples are going over your head. If they're legitimately confusing to you, then I'll also "forego any comment on it".

::::::::::If this is the policy for the future, that figures trump games as long as it's not the EXACT SAME game, then I will say that I strongly disagree, and that it goes against established Bulbapedia values, and is only going to lead to further confusion, but ultimately, since an average Bulbapedia user like myself has practically zero say over anything that happens, I'm not gonna continue to push to improve this article after now. In my experience, Bulbapedia, specifically the moderator team, has always been weird about things that should be common sense but this is definitely the worst of it-- we've made so many loopholes that we've tangled and knotted our reasoning. I'll say it as concisely as I can-- this policy and, as a result, this page, is ridiculous and shitty.

::::::::::I do realize that my opinions "don't bear fruit", like you said, and I think that that's the most saddening part about this whole scenario. The fact that there's a policy that I feel is unfair and dangerous, and I have nothing that I, as a non-moderator, can do about it.

::::::::::I have nothing more to say on the matter. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 02:24, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::::You're mixing issues when you propose that people wouldn't be confused by "Green" in the context of FRLG. You may think it's confusing but it's following strict policy (that I've explained more than once above) which we will not change. This may be an extreme case of that policy, but that itself is not enough reason to modify the policy or invalidate the name.
:::::::::::Regarding Elio/Selene, let me put it this way (again). If you want to explore how Leaf/Green means we should do something else with Elio/Selene, we can talk. Right now, all I hear is, "This is a problem for Elio/Selene--and you should be able to understand that--so you should invalidate Leaf/Green." Again: give details about what Leaf/Green should mean for other things. (As far as I'm concerned, this wouldn't need to be accompanied by "...So that means Leaf/Green sucks!" But I won't try to force that right now.)
:::::::::::Regarding the "Rick/Cindy" hypothetical... I think *I* would suggest handling it like Leaf/Green. (But...if you're trying to create a new situation, you should know that not everything in the real world has a ready answer. The final answer comes when it's needed.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:16, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
{{indent}}What I was trying to do was to make sure we would have a consistent way to handle a situation of this kind. Of course I know there is not a ready answer, but still sometimes it's important to stop and think about how we are handling things.

Without placing my opinion, right now I guess what we have is something like "a character's name is only valid for the game(s) in which the name appears, and a different source should be used for the name in the game(s) in which said character is not named".

Now, let me point out I'm not saying that what I just wrote should be final. Instead, I think we should elaborate that statement (thinking of all implications, but without creating unnecessary exceptions) so we can use it as a standard for all situations.

So, Tiddlywinks, can we try to elaborate a statement like that as a guideline? It would simplify a lot the situation and avoid most debates about whether or not the rules or policies are being followed for one or another character. Of course I also understand that something like this would probably also need to be aproved by the rest of the staff. [[User:Suic12-|Suic]] ([[User talk:Suic12-|talk]]) 13:49, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
:I feel like a policy like that is fine but I still strongly think that using figures as a source is dubious if there’s other things to go off of. We have no idea the level of communication that Kotobukiya has with Gamefreak. If “Leaf” ever appears in a game to describe her then sure. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 16:25, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
::I hate to continue to add on but this has been on my mind for the past couple of days... If Kotobukiya or Bandai or whoever were to release figures that said "Fire, the male player character from FRLG" or "Terry, the rival from FRLG," would we change those names on those pages for those games? --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 22:03, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
:::Your specific mention of "Fire" is interesting because, in addition to being the obvious game-name counterpart to "Leaf", it was a common Japanese fan name for remake Red. If a figure were to actually use "Fire" for remake Red, it would ''completely destroy'' my argument. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 08:38, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
::::Needless to say, the Bandai figures [https://www.bandai.co.jp/candy/products/2019/45496604549660000.html use ''Red'' as name of Red] and [https://www.bandai.co.jp/candy/products/2019/1000136260.html ''Green'' as name of Green] (Blue in the West). Incidentally, both the Green and Prof. Oak's figures reconfirm that these Bandai figures are themed after ''Pokémon Fire Red and Leaf Green'', again limiting the scope of what they are portraying. After all, this kind of licensed material needs approval from the owners of the Pokémon IP (typically, [[The Pokémon Company]]), it can be expected that they perform some checks on relevant details of IP such as name, basic bio and appearance. It's an official figure, not a fan-made one. In any case, the name ''Leaf'' being used in internal data to refer to the female protagonist of ''Fire Red and Leaf Green'' means that Game Freak named her ''Leaf'' internally, it has never been just a fan name or an arbitrary name to begin with.

::::Furthermore, we still don't know the full details of the connection between Green and Leaf. Considering how ''Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee'' are explicitly a remake of ''Yellow'', they are not forced to connect with ''Fire Red and Leaf Green'', not to say that they feature an alternate timeline, where especially Red has a different role. The design of Green is not just influenced by that of Leaf, she also resembles the female character on the cover of the Nintendo Official Guidebook of ''Red, Green and Blue''. Regarding the latter character, Sugimori said that [https://twitter.com/super_32x/status/269847118754217986 he was a little conscious of her when designing the female protagonist of ''Fire Red and Leaf Green''], which again points out how the relationship between Green from ''Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee'' and Leaf from ''Fire Red and Leaf Green'' might be more complex than we think.

::::In any case, the descriptions of both the figures of Leaf explicitly mention how the character portrayed is the female protagonist of ''Fire Red and Leaf Green'', Blue/Green from ''Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee'' is never called into question, therefore these figures strictly aren't against the games they are explicitly referring to.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 22:39, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::(I was hoping nobody would actually use this point, but alas.) Internal data is practically completely irrelevant. They use all sorts of random names for internal data, such as the aforementioned Terry, as well as Kai and Lana for Elio and Selene respectively, or Ninten for Red in RBY... I could go on.

:::::I’m aware that Red and Blue both have figures already. But that didn’t answer my question. If for whatever reason they called them Fire and Terry, using the same phrasing that they do for Green from FRLG, would we use those names for FRLG only? No, obviously. It defies common sense to let figures control Pokémon canon so strongly. But that’s what we’re doing here.

:::::If anyone legitimately believes that if Kotobukiya called Red “Fire” for FRLG, then we should change it there, then I really don’t know what to say. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 03:18, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::Red has a consistent name that since Gen II, Blue has a consistent name since Gen II. If a figure gave them different names, then we're going to ignore it because that is not the names they consistently had before. Leaf never had a consistent name until to Kotobukiya figure. Kotobuyika has consistently been calling the FRLG design of the character Leaf, hence why "we're holding the figure so highly".
::::::The name Green has only been used for the LGPE design of the character, not the FRLG one. And whether they are the same character is another thing. There is nothing saying that they are the same. Their clothes sharing similar colors is not proof, that could be chalked up as a reference. I don't follow the manga, so I'm not too sure about that, but the character existed before the FRLG design did.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:25, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::Wow, this is the biggest loophole we’ve seen so far.... so you’re saying that we should apply different logic to Red than to Green just because Green hadn’t shown up until later? So much for the strict policies that Tiddlywinks was advocating for and using to defend their argument.

:::::::I am absolutely dumbfounded that we’re still deliberating over whether they’re the same character or not. It’s common sense. Extremely similar outfit, similar function in game (it only makes sense that the female player character from FRLG would appear alongside the male player character from FRLG as NPCS). Honestly, I’m amazed (and pleasantly surprised) that nobody has legitimately suggested that Elio from SM and USUM are different characters, or really any pair of the same character with much more drastic design differences than the flipping of two colors and the omission of a hat. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 12:18, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::::Red and Green don't have different logic. If a character has no name in a game, and has not had a name in a previous game, we may accept a name that pops up.
::::::::There's just no breating room to change Red's name because it has a very long history that doesn't have an "opening" like Green did (not to mention being so consistent). Green only received a name for LGPE, so FRLG was still iffy...and a figure popped up to fill that in.
::::::::We're not changing names willy-nilly like you fear. If you want to worry about anyone, Ethan is probably the only other PC who has a similar hole as Green.
::::::::And I can't speak for ForceFire, but the decision as staff has been that Leaf/Green are the same character, which is why they're on the same page. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:50, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::Why did the staff make this decision? Do {{tt|they|Using 'they' instead of 'you' to avoid ambiguity between singular/plural 'you'}} have evidence that Leaf/Green are confirmed the same that us non-staff have overlooked? [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 09:28, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
{{indent}}While I agree that they are the same character, since the article was renamed Green I think the article should consistently call her Green. The reference to her old name Leaf should go to the Trivia section. {{ga|Ethan}}'s page consistently called him Ethan and didn't switch to Gold for Generation 2 contexts. So a figure called her Leaf. After a TFG figure called {{ga|Brendan}} "Landon," should we have figures as reliable sources to canon names? Especially a Japan-exclusive figure that doesn't release until September? As I recall, [[Gold (game)]] was only moved to [[Ethan (game)]] on the North American release date of HeartGold and SoulSilver. His page was never Hibiki (game) when the Japanese version was out. And if it turns out we have to split Leaf from Green, it's only a matter of using a Find/Replace function. But anyway, the thing that should settle this debate once and for all is Green's appearance in [[Pokémon Masters]] using her FireRed/LeafGreen design. We don't have confirmation yet, so we could wait. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 04:03, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

== Article Layout ==
I move to begin the article with a section on the unused Generation I character before segueing into information about Green and Leaf. Any objections? [[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 08:07, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
:I'd be fine with that. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 13:05, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
::This page is kind of a mess and I want to try and make it more organized, clean it up a little. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 10:18, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
:::It's already in the trivia section. And the prototype character is '''not''' Green, Green is inspired by that prototype, but that does not mean the prototype is Green herself.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:27, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
::::I think we should move it up from the trivia section to the front of the page. It's pretty pertinent. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 10:37, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
::::While ForceFire noted they are not the same, I feel it is fine being left in the trivia. It is A)Not the same character, B)a character which inspired Green's design. Most other pages with notable beta content related to them are just stuck into trivia as they are not something you would see during normal gameplay at all. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 15:43, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

POKÉMON Detective Pikachu

2019-06-19T02:19:29Z

SeanWheeler: /* Pokémon */ The same Pikachu doesn't need two pages.

:''For other uses, see [[Detective Pikachu]].''
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'''POKÉMON Detective Pikachu''' (Japanese: '''名探偵ピカチュウ''' ''Great Detective Pikachu'') is a live-action [[Pokémon movie]] focusing on the character {{OBP|Detective Pikachu|character}}, who was first introduced in the [[Nintendo 3DS]] game {{ga|Detective Pikachu|of the same name}}. It was released in Japanese theaters on May 3, 2019 and in North American theaters on May 10, 2019. The film was produced by {{wp|Legendary Entertainment}} and distributed by {{wp|Warner Bros.}} outside of Japan and Mainland China, where it was distributed by [[Toho]] and {{wp|Legendary East}}, respectively.

The movie was first revealed in July 2016. Filming took place in {{wp|London}} from January to May 2018. The logo and title for were revealed during the opening ceremony of the [[2018 World Championships]] on August 24, 2018.

Directed by {{wp|Rob Letterman}}, ''Detective Pikachu'' is the first live-action film in the Pokémon franchise, in addition to CGI-animated Pokémon. The movie features {{wp|Ryan Reynolds}} as the voice of {{OBP|Detective Pikachu|character}}, {{wp|Justice Smith}} as [[Tim Goodman]], and {{wp|Kathryn Newton}} as [[Lucy Stevens]].

==Other posters and logos==
<gallery>
Detective Pikachu movie teaser poster.png|Teaser poster
Detective Pikachu movie poster.png|First poster
Detective Pikachu movie poster 2.png|Second poster
Detective Pikachu movie poster 3.png|Third poster
Detective Pikachu movie poster 4.png|Fourth poster
Detective Pikachu movie poster Dolby Cinema.png|Dolby Cinema poster by Aracely Muñoz
Detective Pikachu movie Japanese poster.png|First Japanese poster
Detective Pikachu movie Japanese poster 2.png|Second Japanese poster
Detective Pikachu movie Japanese poster IMAX.png|Japanese IMAX poster
Detective Pikachu movie logo.png|English logo
Detective Pikachu movie Japanese logo.png|Japanese logo
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==Blurb==
The story begins when ace private eye Harry Goodman goes mysteriously missing, prompting his 21-year-old son Tim to find out what happened. Aiding in the investigation is Harry’s former Pokémon partner, Detective Pikachu: a hilariously wise-cracking, adorable super-sleuth who is a puzzlement even to himself. Finding that they are uniquely equipped to communicate with one another, Tim and Pikachu join forces on a thrilling adventure to unravel the tangled mystery. Chasing clues together through the neon-lit streets of Ryme City—a sprawling, modern metropolis where humans and Pokémon live side by side in a hyper-realistic live-action world—they encounter a diverse cast of Pokémon characters and uncover a shocking plot that could destroy this peaceful co-existence and threaten the whole Pokémon universe.

==Plot==

{{incomplete plot}}

==Featured Pokémon==
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OBP|Detective Pikachu|character}})
* {{p|Mewtwo}} ({{OBP|Mewtwo|Detective Pikachu|Detective Pikachu}})

==Characters==
===Humans===
* [[Tim Goodman]]
* [[Lucy Stevens]]
* [[Lieutenant Hide Yoshida]]
* [[Harry Goodman]]
* [[Howard Clifford]]
* [[Roger Clifford]]
* [[Dr. Ann Laurent]]
* {{OBP|Jack|Detective Pikachu}}
* {{OBP|Sebastian|Detective Pikachu}}

===Pokémon===
* {{p|Pikachu}} ([[Harry Goodman|Harry's]]; {{OBP|Detective Pikachu|character}})
* {{p|Psyduck}} ({{OP|Lucy|Psyduck}})
* {{p|Ditto}} ([[Howard Clifford|Howard]]'s; [[Ms. Norman]])
* {{p|Eevee}} (Howard's; evolves)
* {{p|Flareon}} (Howard's; newly evolved)
* {{p|Charizard}} ({{OP|Sebastian|Charizard}})
* {{p|Greninja}} (×5)
* {{p|Charmander}} (multiple)
* {{p|Dodrio}} (×3)
* {{p|Bouffalant}}
* {{p|Flabébé}} ({{DL|List of Pokémon with form differences|Flabébé|Red, Blue, Yellow, Orange, and White Flower}}; multiple)
* {{p|Venusaur}} (×2)
* {{p|Audino}} (×2)
* {{p|Comfey}} (multiple)
* {{p|Pidgeotto}}
* {{p|Braviary}} (×4)
* {{p|Squirtle}} (×5)
* {{p|Rufflet}} (×2)
* {{p|Pancham}} (multiple)
* {{p|Jigglypuff}} (×4)
* {{p|Emolga}} (multiple)
* {{p|Joltik}} (×6)
* {{p|Bulbasaur}} (multiple)
* {{p|Morelull}} (multiple)
* {{p|Aipom}} (multiple)
* {{p|Mr. Mime}}
* {{p|Snubbull}}
* {{p|Lickitung}} (×2)
* {{p|Growlithe}} (multiple)
* {{p|Ludicolo}}
* {{p|Golurk}} (×3)
* {{p|Arcanine}} (×2)
* {{p|Magnemite}}
* {{p|Kingler}} (×2)
* {{p|Slaking}} (×2)
* {{p|Snorlax}}
* {{p|Machamp}} (×2)
* {{p|Pangoro}} (×3)
* {{p|Pidgeot}} (×2)
* {{p|Loudred}} (multiple)
* {{p|Blastoise}}
* {{p|Haunter}}
* {{p|Gengar}} (multiple)
* {{p|Magikarp}}
* {{p|Cubone}}
* {{p|Riolu}}
* {{p|Rattata}}
* {{p|Treecko}}
* {{p|Octillery}}
* {{p|Mismagius}}
* {{p|Mewtwo}} ({{OBP|Mewtwo|Detective Pikachu|Detective Pikachu}})
* {{p|Gyarados}}
* {{p|Purrloin}}
* {{p|Sneasel}} (multiple)
* {{p|Torterra}} (×5)
* {{p|Doduo}}
* {{p|Graveler}}
* {{p|Togepi}}
* {{p|Totodile}}

==Cast==
{{cast/h|Pika}}
{{cast|Pika|Detective Pikachu (character)|disp=Detective Pikachu|wp:Ryan Reynolds{{!}}Ryan Reynolds (voice)|Great Detective Pikachu|wp:Hidetoshi Nishijima (actor){{!}}Hidetoshi Nishijima|名探偵ピカチュウ|西島秀俊|top=yes}}
{{cast|Pika|Tim Goodman|disp=Tim Goodman|wp:Justice Smith{{!}}Justice Smith|Tim Goodman|wp:Ryoma Takeuchi{{!}}Ryōma Takeuchi|ティム・グッドマン|竹内涼真}}
{{cast|Pika|Lucy Stevens|wp:Kathryn Newton{{!}}Kathryn Newton|Lucy|wp:Marie Iitoyo{{!}}Marie Iitoyo|ルーシー|飯豊まりえ}}
{{cast|Pika|Lieutenant Hide Yoshida|wp:Ken Watanabe{{!}}Ken Watanabe|Assistant Inspector Yoshida|wp:Ken Watanabe {{!}}Ken Watanabe|ヨシダ警部補|渡辺謙}}
{{cast|Pika|Harry Goodman|wp:Ryan Reynolds{{!}}Ryan Reynolds|Harry Goodman||ハリー・グッドマン||link=no}}
{{cast|Pika|Jack (Detective Pikachu)|disp=Jack|wp:Karan Soni{{!}}Karan Soni|Jack|Yūki Kaji|ジャック|梶裕貴}}
{{cast|Pika|Sebastian (Detective Pikachu)|disp=Sebastian|wp:Omar Chaparro{{!}}Omar Chaparro|Sebastian|Kenta Miyake|セバスチャン|三宅健太}}
{{cast|Pika|Howard Clifford|wp:Bill Nighy{{!}}Bill Nighy|Howard|wp:Hiroshi Naka{{!}}Hiroshi Naka|ハワード|中博史}}
{{cast|Pika|Roger Clifford|wp:Chris Geere{{!}}Chris Geere|Roger|Shin'ichirō Miki|ロジャー|三木眞一郎}}
{{cast|Pika|Ms. Norman|wp:Suki Waterhouse{{!}}Suki Waterhouse||||}}
{{cast|Pika|Dr. Ann Laurent|wp:Rita Ora{{!}}Rita Ora|Dr. Laurent|Megumi Hayashibara|ローラン博士|林原めぐみ}}
{{cast|Pika|DJ|wp:Diplo{{!}}Diplo|DJ|Kaito Ishikawa|DJ|石川界人|bottom=yes}}
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==Staff==
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! colspan="2" class="header" style="text-align: center; color: #000" | Detective Pikachu
|-
! colspan="2" class="header" style="text-align: center; background: #{{colorschemelight|Pika}}; {{roundytop|20px}}" | {{j|名探偵ピカチュウ}} ''Great Detective Pikachu''
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! width="35%" style="background: #f0f0f0" | Director
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* {{wp|Rob Letterman}}
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Casting
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* Sarah Halley Finn
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Music
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* {{wp|Henry Jackman}}
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Costume designer
|
* Suzie Harman
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Film editors
|
* {{wp|Mark Sanger}}
* James Thomas
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Production designer
|
* Nigel Phelps
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Director of photography
|
* {{wp|John Mathieson (cinematographer)|John Mathieson}}
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Executive producers
|
* Joe Caracciolo, Jr.
* Ali Mendes
* [[Tsunekazu Ishihara]]
* [[Kenji Okubo]]
* Toshio Miyahara
* Keiji Ota
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Producers
|
* {{wp|Mary Parent}}
* Cale Boyter
* Hidenaga Katakami
* Don McGowan
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Screenplay
|
* Dan Hernandez
* Benji Samit
* Rob Letterman
* {{wp|Derek Connolly}}
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Story
|
* Dan Hernandez
* Benji Samit
* {{wp|Nicole Perlman}}
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Co-producer
|
* Alexandra Mendes
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Visual effects
|
* {{wp|Moving Picture Company}}
* {{wp|Framestore}}
|}

==Soundtrack==
{{main|Pokémon Detective Pikachu Original Motion Picture Soundtrack}}
The film's score was composed by {{wp|Henry Jackman}}. The movie features the {{game|Red and Blue|s}} title theme under the title [[Game Boy: Entire Pokémon Sounds Collection CD|Red & Blue Theme]], [[Carry On]] by {{wp|Kygo}} and {{wp|Rita Ora}}, and [[ELECTRICITY]] by the {{wp|Honest Boyz}} featuring {{wp|Lil Uzi Vert}} over the ending credits. The songs Le Fantôme de Saint Bechet and Payin No Mind by {{wp|Glenn Crytzer}}, [[Pokémon Theme|Gotta Catch 'Em All (Pokémon Theme)]], Jigglypuff by [[Rachel Lillis]], Goh by {{wp|What So Not}} & {{wp|Skrillex}} featuring KLP, and Kyoto Mist by David Wahler were featured during the film itself.

The songs {{wp|Happy Together (song)|Happy Together}} by {{wp|The Turtles}}, {{wp|Holding Out for a Hero}} by {{wp|Bonnie Tyler}}, and {{wp|What a Wonderful World}} by {{wp|Louis Armstrong}} were also featured in trailers for the film. In the Japanese versions of trailers featuring Holding Out for a Hero, the {{jwp|ヒーロー HOLDING OUT FOR A HERO|1984 cover}} by {{jwp|麻倉未稀|Miki Asakura}} is used in its place.

==Events==
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==Release==
{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{colorschemedark|Pika}}; border:3px solid #{{colorschemelight|Pika}}"
! style="background: #{{colorschemelight|Pika}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Date
! style="background: #{{colorschemelight|Pika}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Locations
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="white-space:nowrap" | May 3, 2019
| Japan
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="white-space:nowrap" | May 8, 2019
| {{pmin|Belgium}}, {{pmin|France}}, {{pmin|Indonesia}}, Luxembourg, Malta, {{pmin|the Netherlands|Netherlands}}, {{pmin|Sweden}}, Switzerland (French)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="white-space:nowrap" | May 9, 2019
| Antigua and Barbuda, {{pmin|Latin America|Argentina}}, Aruba, {{pmin|Australia}}, {{pmin|Latin America|Bolivia}}, {{pmin|Brazil}}, Brunei, {{pmin|Latin America|Chile}}, {{pmin|Latin America|Colombia}}, {{pmin|the Czech Republic|Czech Republic}}, {{pmin|Denmark}}, {{pmin|Latin America|Dominican Republic}}, Fiji, {{pmin|Germany}}, Georgia, {{pmin|Denmark|Greenland}}, {{pmin|Greater China|Hong Kong}}, {{pmin|Hungary}}, Laos, {{pmin|Italy}}, {{pmin|Israel}}, {{pmin|Greater China|Macau}}, {{pmin|Malaysia}}, {{pmin|Latin America|Panama}}, Papua New Guinea, {{pmin|Latin America|Paraguay}}, {{pmin|Latin America|Peru}}, {{pmin|the Philippines|Philippines}}, {{pmin|Portugal}}, Puerto Rico, St. Kitts and Nevis, St. Lucia, St. Maarten, {{pmin|Singapore}}, {{pmin|South Korea}}, Switzerland (German, Italian), {{pmin|Greater China|Taiwan}}, {{pmin|Slovakia}}, {{pmin|Thailand}}, {{pmin|Ukraine}}, {{pmin|the Arab world|United Arab Emirates}}, U.S. Virgin Islands, {{pmin|Latin America|Uruguay}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="white-space:nowrap" | May 10, 2019
| Andorra, Austria, {{pmin|Bulgaria}}, Cambodia, {{pmin|Canada}}, {{pmin|Greater China|Mainland China}}, {{pmin|Latin America|Costa Rica}}, {{pmin|Latin America|Ecuador}}, {{pmin|Latin America|El Salvador}}, Estonia, {{pmin|Finland}}, Guadeloupe, {{pmin|Latin America|Guatemala}}, {{pmin|Latin America|Honduras}}, {{pmin|Iceland}}, {{pmin|South Asia|India}}, {{pmin|Ireland}}, Kenya, Latvia, {{pmin|Lithuania}}, {{pmin|Latin America|Mexico}}, Mongolia, Nigeria, {{pmin|Norway}}, {{pmin|Latin America|Nicaragua}}, {{pmin|South Asia|Pakistan}}, {{pmin|Spain}} (Basque, Spanish), {{pmin|South Asia|Sri Lanka}}, Tanzania, {{pmin|Turkey}}, {{pmin|the United Kingdom|United Kingdom}}, {{pmin|the United States|United States}}, {{pmin|Latin America|Venezuela}}, {{pmin|Vietnam}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="white-space:nowrap" | May 15, 2019
| Trinidad and Tobago
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="white-space:nowrap" | May 16, 2019
| {{pmin|Albania}}, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, {{pmin|Croatia}}, Cyprus, Guyana, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Montenegro, {{pmin|New Zealand}}, {{pmin|North Macedonia}}, {{pmin|Russia}}, {{pmin|Serbia}}, Slovenia
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="white-space:nowrap" | May 17, 2019
| {{pmin|South Asia|Bangladesh}}, South Africa
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="white-space:nowrap" | May 31, 2019
| {{pmin|Poland}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="white-space:nowrap" | June 7, 2019
| {{pmin|Spain}} (Catalan), {{pmin|Romania}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="white-space:nowrap" | June 13, 2019
| {{pmin|the Arab world|Bahrain}}, {{pmin|Greece}}, {{pmin|the Arab world|Jordan}}, {{pmin|the Arab world|Lebanon}}, {{pmin|the Arab world|Kuwait}}, {{pmin|the Arab world|Oman}}, {{pmin|the Arab world|Qatar}}, {{pmin|the Arab world|Saudi Arabia}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="white-space:nowrap" | July 10, 2019
| {{pmin|the Arab world|Egypt}}
|-
! style="background: #{{colorschemelight|Pika}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" colspan="3" |
|}

==Trivia==

* The rights to distribute the film outside Japan were initially won by {{wp|Universal Studios|Universal Pictures}}, but were eventually taken over by {{wp|Warner Bros. Pictures|Warner Bros.}}, a distributor of previous [[Pokémon movie]]s.
* This is the first Pokémon film to be officially rated PG by the {{wp|Motion Picture Association of America}}. All previous films were either rated G or not rated.
* As of June 2019, this film has the highest rating on review aggregator website {{wp|Rotten Tomatoes}} of any Pokémon film, with a "Fresh" rating of 66% out of a total of 265 reviews.
* This is one of two Pokémon-related movies to be released in 2019, with the other being the [[M22|twenty-second anime movie]]. Coincidentally, both movies prominently feature a {{p|Mewtwo}} and heavily use CGI.
* While the movie takes liberties with the original plot of the Detective Pikachu video game, it does reveal the ultimate fate of Tim's father, which was not addressed in the source material.
* The Jigglypuff shown in the coffee shop wielding a microphone/marker is a reference to the {{an|Jigglypuff}} in the [[Pokémon anime]].
* The Greninja uses water swords just like [[Greninja (Super Smash Bros.)|the one in Super Smash Bros.]] does.
* The gangster movie playing on the TV when Tim enters Harry's apartment for the first time is the movie that Kevin McCallister watches in the 1990 film {{wp|Home Alone}}. The movie in question, titled "Angels with Filthy Souls", is not a real one, and was made specially for use in ''Home Alone''.
* When attempting to calm Psyduck, Detective Pikachu yells "Serenity Now!". This is a reference to the 1997 ''{{wp|Seinfeld}}'' episode "{{wp|The Serenity Now}}", in which Frank Costanza is told to yell the phrase whenever he is angry, in order to lower his blood pressure.
* This is the first Pokémon product to be dubbed into:
** {{pmin|Belgium|Flemish Dutch}}; all previous Pokémon products that were released in Dutch in Belgium used the dub from the Netherlands instead.
** {{pmin|Hungary|Hungarian}} since 2011, in {{pmin|Bulgaria|Bulgarian}} since 2010, in {{pmin|Spain|Basque}} since 2008, in {{pmin|Slovakia|Slovak}} since 2005, in {{pmin|Canada|Canadian French}} since 2004, {{pmin|Ukraine|Ukrainian}} since 2000, and in {{pmin|Catalan}} since 1999.
* This is also the first Pokémon product of the entire franchise to:
** be introduced at all with subtitles in Azerbaijani, Estonian, Latvian, Mongolian, and Slovene languages.
** be subtitled in {{pmin|Croatia|Croatian}} and {{pmin|Serbia|Serbian}} since the anime was dubbed in 2012, {{pmin|Iceland|Icelandic}} since the anime was dubbed in 2004, {{pmin|North Macedonia|Macedonian}} since the anime was dubbed in 2002.

==In other languages==
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==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
{{bulbanews|game|Detective Pikachu}}
* [http://www.detectivepikachumovie.com/ Official website]
* [https://www.facebook.com/detectivepikachumovie/ ''POKÉMON Detective Pikachu'' on Facebook]
* [https://twitter.com/DetPikachuMovie ''POKÉMON Detective Pikachu'' on Twitter]
* [https://www.instagram.com/detectivepikachumovie/ ''POKÉMON Detective Pikachu'' on Instagram]
* [https://meitantei-pikachu.jp/ Official website] (Japanese)
* [https://www.facebook.com/meitantei.pikachu/ ''POKÉMON Detective Pikachu'' on Facebook] (Japanese)
* [https://twitter.com/meitantei_pika ''POKÉMON Detective Pikachu'' on Twitter] (Japanese)
* [https://www.instagram.com/meitantei_pikachu ''POKÉMON Detective Pikachu'' on Instagram] (Japanese)
* [https://weibo.com/detectivepikachu ''POKÉMON Detective Pikachu'' on Weibo] (Simplified Chinese)
* [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5884052/ Film on the IMDb database]
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SeanWheeler:

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| style="background: #e6e6ff; padding: 2px 10px;" align="center" | [[Emilia Christie]] • [[Meiko Okamoto]] • [[Ethan Graham]] • [[Brad McMaster]] [[Mike Baker]] • [[Frank Holiday]] • [[Amanda Blackstone]] • [[Pablo Millan]]
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SeanWheeler: Hey, if we're starting articles on characters from the movie, why not have characters from the game that inspired the movie?

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| style="background: #e6e6ff; padding: 2px 10px;" align="center" | [[Dr. Ann Laurent]] • [[Harry Goodman]] • [[Howard Clifford]] • [[Jack (Detective Pikachu)|Jack]] [[Lieutenant Hide Yoshida]] • [[Mewtwo (Detective Pikachu)|Mewtwo]] • [[Roger Clifford]] • [[Sebastian (Detective Pikachu)|Sebastian]]
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! style="background: #ddf; {{roundybl|10px}} padding: 2px 15px;" | Game characters:
| [[Emilia Christie]] • [[Meiko Okamoto]] • [[Ethan Graham]] • [[Brad McMaster]] • [[Mike Baker]] • [[Frank Holiday]] • [[Amanda Blackstone]] • [[Pablo Millan]]
|}
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Roger Clifford

2019-06-03T21:41:55Z

SeanWheeler:

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|bordercolor={{normal color dark}}
|name=Roger Clifford
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|slogan=no
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|caption=Roger Clifford
|gender=Male
|colors=yes
|eyes=Blue
|hair=Brown
|hometown=[[Ryme City]]
|region=Unknown
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|anime=no
|epname=[[Detective Pikachu (movie)|Pokémon Detective Pikachu]]
|actor={{wp|Chris Geere}}
|java=Shin'ichirō Miki
}}

'''Roger Clifford''' (Japanese: '''ロジャー''' ''Roger'') is one of the characters of ''[[Detective Pikachu (game)|Detective Pikachu]]'' and the [[Detective Pikachu (movie)|film adaptation]]. He is the son of [[Howard Clifford]].

==History==

{{Detective Pikachu characters}}

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Roger Clifford

2019-06-03T21:39:55Z

SeanWheeler:

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{{CharInfobox
|color={{normal color}}
|corecolor={{normal color light}}
|bordercolor={{normal color dark}}
|name=Roger Clifford
|jname=ロジャー
|tmname=Roger
|slogan=no
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|size=250px
|caption=Roger Clifford
|gender=Male
|colors=yes
|eyes=Blue
|hair=Brown
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|region=Unknown
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|anime=no
|epname=[[Detective Pikachu (movie)|Pokémon Detective Pikachu]]
|actor={{wp|Chris Geere}}
|java=Shin'ichirō Miki
}}

'''Roger Clifford''' (Japanese: '''ロジャー''' ''Roger'') is one of the characters of ''[[Detective Pikachu (movie)|Pokémon Detective Pikachu]]''. He is the son of [[Howard Clifford]].

==History==

{{Detective Pikachu characters}}

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Sebastian (Detective Pikachu)

2019-05-21T02:56:20Z

SeanWheeler:

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{{CharInfobox
|color={{Fire color}}
|corecolor={{Fire color light}}
|bordercolor={{Fire color dark}}
|name=Sebastian
|jname=Sebastian
|tmname=セバスチャン
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|size=250px
|caption=
|gender=Male
|colors=no
|eyes=
|hair=
|hometown=[[Ryme City]]
|region=Unknown
|anime=no
|epname=[[Detective Pikachu (movie)|POKÉMON Detective Pikachu]]
|actor=[[Omar Chaparro]]
|java=Kenta Miyake
}}
'''Sebastian''' is a side character from ''{{mov|Detective Pikachu}}''. He is a [[Pokémon Trainer]] who hosts an illegal fight club in [[Ryme City]].

==History==
At some point prior to the events of the movie, Sebastian was interrogated by [[Harry Goodman]] and his {{OBP|Detective Pikachu|character}} while searching for the source of the [[R]] chemical, which led to a battle during which Pikachu's {{t|Electric}} shocks partially tore Sebastian's prized jacket and scarred his {{p|Charizard}}. Later on, Harry's son [[Tim Goodman|Tim]] and Detective Pikachu encountered Sebastian while searching for clues relating to Harry's disappearance, but Sebastian prompted them to have a [[rematch]].

They agreed, but Sebastian drugged his Charizard with R, causing it to try and violently attack Detective Pikachu. It was stopped by Tim, who stepped on its tail. Sebastian stepped into the ring to try and stop him, but Tim tackled him to the ground to save him from Charizard's rampage. This released the large amounts of R stored in Sebastian's jacket, which sent all of the Pokémon in the stadium into a frenzy. Sebastian then admitted to Tim that he received the R from [[Dr. Ann Laurent]], then escaped amidst the chaos.

==Character==

==Pokémon==

==Names==

[[Category:Detective Pikachu characters]]
[[Category:Male characters]]

[[es:Sebastian (PDP)]]

Lucy Stevens

2019-05-18T18:46:48Z

SeanWheeler: Undo revision 2968906 by GrammarFreak01 (talk) Let's keep the link with just her first name. Ash's Pikachu is not titled Ash Ketchum's Pikachu.

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|color={{water color}}
|corecolor={{water color light}}
|bordercolor={{water color dark}}
|name=Lucy Stevens
|jname=ルーシー
|tmname=Lucy
|slogan=no
|image=PDP Lucy Stevens.jpg
|size=250px
|caption=Lucy and Psyduck
|gender=Female
|colors=yes
|eyes=Green
|hair=Blonde
|hometown=[[Ryme City]]
|region=Unknown
|anime=no
|epname=[[Detective Pikachu (movie)|POKÉMON Detective Pikachu]]
|actor=[[Kathryn Newton]]
|java=Rina Kawaei
}}

'''Lucy Stevens''' (Japanese: '''ルーシー''' ''Lucy'') is one of the main characters of ''{{mov|Detective Pikachu|Pokémon Detective Pikachu}}''. She is a junior reporter who is accompanied by a {{p|Psyduck}}. Lucy is portrayed by [[Kathryn Newton]].

==History==

==Character==

==Pokémon==
This listing is of Lucy's known {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} in the {{pkmn|movie}}:

===On hand===
{{TrainerPoké
|width=68%
|main=yes
|trainer=Lucy
|pkmn=Psyduck
|type1=Water
|img=Lucy Stevens Psyduck.jpg
|epnum=Detective Pikachu
|epname=Pokémon Detective Pikachu
|vajp=Rikako Aikawa
|vaen=
|desc={{p|Psyduck}} was Lucy's primary Pokémon, and is often seen [[Walking Pokémon|outside of its Poké Ball]]. It is constantly seen with headaches, which causes Lucy to try and keep it calm. Psyduck was first seen spying on [[Tim Goodman]] when he arrived at [[Harry Goodman|his father]]'s apartment.

Psyduck was next seen beside Lucy when she first met Tim. Later, when Tim went to CMN, Psyduck was seen in Lucy's "office". It accompanied its Trainer to [[Howard Clifford]]'s secret lab. During the celebrations in [[Ryme City]], Psyduck merged with its Trainer when the R substance was released in the city.}}

==Names==

[[Category:Detective Pikachu characters]]

[[es:Lucy Stevens]]

Harry Goodman

2019-05-16T21:17:35Z

SeanWheeler: /* On hand */

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{{CharInfobox
|color={{yellow color}}
|corecolor={{blue color light}}
|bordercolor={{blue color dark}}
|name=Harry Goodman
|jname=ハリー・グッドマン
|tmname=Harry Goodman
|slogan=no
|image=PDP Harry Goodman.jpg
|size=250px
|caption=Harry Goodman
|gender=Male
|colors=yes
|eyes=Brown
|hair=Brown
|hometown=Unknown
|region=[[Ryme City]]
|relatives=[[Tim Goodman]] (son), unnamed wife and child
|game=yes
|generation={{gen|VI}}, {{gen|VII}}
|games={{ga|Detective Pikachu}}
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|actor=[[Ryan Reynolds]]
|java=
}}
'''Harry Goodman''' (Japanese: '''ハリー・グッドマン''' ''Harry Goodman'') is the father of [[Tim Goodman]], one of the main characters in ''[[Detective Pikachu (movie)|Pokémon Detective Pikachu]]''.

==In the games==
In the beginning of Detective Pikachu, Harry can be seen driving away from the [[Pokémon Comprehensive Laboratory]] just before getting hit by a projectile and blown off a bridge.

==In the movie==
Harry used to live with his family in the countryside, but when his wife passed away, he moved to [[Ryme City]] and buried himself in work, leaving his son [[Tim Goodman|Tim]] to live with Tim's grandmother. At one point, he offered Tim to move to Ryme City with him, but Tim refused.

As one of the greatest detectives of Ryme City, Harry was recruited by [[Howard Clifford]] to find and capture {{OBP|Mewtwo|Detective Pikachu}}. When he realized that Howard wanted to use Mewtwo for evil, he and his partner Pikachu helped Mewtwo escape. After Harry left the facility, his car was ambushed by Howard's {{p|Greninja}} and crashed over a bridge. A severely injured Harry crawled out of the burning vehicle and realized that Mewtwo also came to his rescue. In order to save Harry, Mewtwo fused Harry into his Pikachu and wiped his memory in process, which resulted in the birth of {{OBP|Detective Pikachu|character}}.

After Tim and Detective Pikachu thwarted Howard's scheme, Mewtwo restored Harry back to his human self.

Harry is portrayed by [[Ryan Reynolds]].

===Pokémon===
This listing is of Harry's known {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} in the {{pkmn|movie}}:

====On hand====
{{TrainerPoké
|main=Detective Pikachu (character)
|trainer=Harry Goodman
|pkmn=Pikachu
|nick=Detective Pikachu
|type1=Electric
|img=Detective Pikachu movie.png
|epnum=Detective Pikachu
|epname=Pokémon Detective Pikachu
|vajp=
|vaen=
|desc={{p|Pikachu}} is Harry's partner Pokémon. Harry once used it to battle and defeat a {{p|Charizard}} in an underground arena. When Harry was dying from a car crash, Pikachu volunteered to have Mewtwo merge Harry into itself, resulting in the creation of {{OBP|Detective Pikachu|character}}.

None of Pikachu's moves are known, but it can be presumed that it shares Detective Pikachu's movepool.}}

==In other languages==
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|sq=Herri
|ar=هاري ''Hari''
|hy=Գարի Գուդմանի ''Gari Gudmani''
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|ca=Harry Goodman
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|fr=Harry Goodman
|de=Harry Goodman
|el=Χάρι Γκούντμαν ''Khári Goúdman''
|he=הארי גודמן ''Harry Goodman''
|hu=Harry Goodman
|id=Harry Goodman
|it=Harry Goodman
|ko=해리 ''Hari''
|lv=Harijs Gudmen
|lt=Haris Gudmanas
|mn=Харри ''Kharri''
|no=
|pl=Harry Goodman
|pt_br=Harry Goodman
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|ru=
|es_la=Harry Goodman
|es_eu=Harry Goodman
|sv=Harry Goodman
|th=แฮร์รี่ กู๊ดแมน ''Ḥærī̀ kū̂dmæn''
|tr=Harry Goodman
|uk=Гаррі Ґудман ''Harri Gudman''
|vi=Harry Goodman
}}
{{-}}
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[[zh:哈利‧古德曼]]

POKÉMON Detective Pikachu

2019-05-15T05:02:36Z

SeanWheeler: /* Pokémon */

:''For other uses, see [[Detective Pikachu]].''
{{move|Pokémon Detective Pikachu}}
{{MovieInfobox
|colorscheme=Pika
|entitle=Detective Pikachu
|jatitle=名探偵ピカチュウ
|rotitle=Great Detective Pikachu
|poster=Detective Pikachu movie poster 2.png
|jaop=None
|jaed=[[Game Boy: Entire Pokémon Sounds Collection CD|Red & Blue Theme]] [[Carry On]] [[ELECTRICITY]]
|enop=None
|ened=[[Game Boy: Entire Pokémon Sounds Collection CD|Red & Blue Theme]] [[Carry On]] [[ELECTRICITY]]
|jpprem=May 3, 2019
|usprem=May 10, 2019
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'''POKÉMON Detective Pikachu''' (Japanese: '''名探偵ピカチュウ''' ''Great Detective Pikachu'') is a live-action [[Pokémon movie]] focusing on the character {{OBP|Detective Pikachu|character}}, who was first introduced in the [[Nintendo 3DS]] game {{ga|Detective Pikachu|of the same name}}. It was released in Japanese theaters on May 3, 2019 and in North American theaters on May 10, 2019. The film was produced by {{wp|Legendary Entertainment}} and distributed by {{wp|Warner Bros.}} outside of Japan and Mainland China, where it was distributed by [[Toho]] and {{wp|Legendary East}}, respectively.

The movie was first revealed in July 2016. Filming took place in {{wp|London}} from January to May 2018. The logo and title for were revealed during the opening ceremony of the [[2018 World Championships]] on August 24, 2018.

Directed by {{wp|Rob Letterman}}, ''Detective Pikachu'' is the first live-action film in the Pokémon franchise, in addition to CGI-animated Pokémon. The movie features {{wp|Ryan Reynolds}} as the voice of {{OBP|Detective Pikachu|character}}, {{wp|Justice Smith}} as [[Tim Goodman]], and {{wp|Kathryn Newton}} as [[Lucy Stevens]].

==Other posters and logos==
<gallery>
Detective Pikachu movie teaser poster.png|Teaser poster
Detective Pikachu movie poster.png|First poster
Detective Pikachu movie poster 2.png|Second poster
Detective Pikachu movie poster 3.png|Third poster
Detective Pikachu movie poster 4.png|Fourth poster
Detective Pikachu movie poster Dolby Cinema.png|Dolby Cinema poster by Aracely Muñoz
Detective Pikachu movie Japanese poster.png|First Japanese poster
Detective Pikachu movie Japanese poster 2.png|Second Japanese poster
Detective Pikachu movie Japanese poster IMAX.png|Japanese IMAX poster
Detective Pikachu movie logo.png|English logo
Detective Pikachu movie Japanese logo.png|Japanese logo
</gallery>

==Blurb==
The story begins when ace private eye Harry Goodman goes mysteriously missing, prompting his 21-year-old son Tim to find out what happened. Aiding in the investigation is Harry’s former Pokémon partner, Detective Pikachu: a hilariously wise-cracking, adorable super-sleuth who is a puzzlement even to himself. Finding that they are uniquely equipped to communicate with one another, Tim and Pikachu join forces on a thrilling adventure to unravel the tangled mystery. Chasing clues together through the neon-lit streets of Ryme City—a sprawling, modern metropolis where humans and Pokémon live side by side in a hyper-realistic live-action world—they encounter a diverse cast of Pokémon characters and uncover a shocking plot that could destroy this peaceful co-existence and threaten the whole Pokémon universe.

==Plot==
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After his father, [[Harry Goodman]], disappears in a past automobile accident, [[Tim Goodman]] travels to [[Ryme City]] to look for clues, and meets the gruff, talkative {{OBP|Detective Pikachu|character}}, who was partnered with Tim's father. They team up to search for him, along with solving other mysteries across Ryme City. Along the way, they encounter Lucy Stevens, an up-and-coming reporter who assists them in their attempt to find out what happened to Harry. The investigation leads them to discover the existence of the dangerous R gas, which strips away a Pokémon's higher cognitive functions and reduces them to mindless rage. It is eventually revealed that the true villain of the story is Howard Clifford, the founder of Ryme City, who wanted to capture Mewtwo so as to use its powers to merge Pokémon and people together. It is revealed that Harry was working with Clifford to help capture Mewtwo, but ultimately betrayed him due to moral reservations about the project. Though Clifford attempted to murder him using his squadron of Greninja, a grateful Mewtwo saved his life by merging his soul with that of his partner Pikachu and sending him to find his son. After defeating Clifford and saving Mewtwo, as well as the population of Ryme City, Mewtwo reverses the merger and Harry and his son finally reconcile. Tim decides to stay in Ryme City to live with his father and his Pikachu, now an ordinary Pikachu once again.

==Featured Pokémon==
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OBP|Detective Pikachu|character}})

==Characters==
===Humans===
* [[Tim Goodman]]
* [[Lucy Stevens]]
* [[Lieutenant Hide Yoshida]]
* [[Harry Goodman]]
* [[Howard Clifford]]
* [[Roger Clifford]]
* [[Dr. Ann Laurent]]
* [[Jack (Detective Pikachu)|Jack]]
* [[Sebastian (Detective Pikachu)|Sebastian]]

===Pokémon===
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OBP|Detective Pikachu|character}})
* {{p|Psyduck}} ({{OP|Lucy|Psyduck}})
* {{p|Ditto}} (Howard's; [[Ms. Norman]])
* {{p|Eevee}} (Howard's; evolves)
* {{p|Flareon}} (Howard's; newly evolved)
* {{p|Charizard}} ({{OP|Sebastian|Charizard}})
* {{p|Greninja}} (×5)
* {{p|Charmander}} (multiple)
* {{p|Dodrio}} (×3)
* {{p|Bouffalant}}
* {{p|Flabébé}} ({{DL|List of Pokémon with form differences|Flabébé|Red, Blue, Yellow, Orange, and White Flower}}; multiple)
* {{p|Venusaur}} (×2)
* {{p|Audino}} (×2)
* {{p|Comfey}} (multiple)
* {{p|Pidgeotto}}
* {{p|Braviary}} (×4)
* {{p|Squirtle}} (×5)
* {{p|Rufflet}} (×2)
* {{p|Pancham}} (multiple)
* {{p|Jigglypuff}} (×4)
* {{p|Emolga}} (multiple)
* {{p|Joltik}} (×6)
* {{p|Bulbasaur}} (multiple)
* {{p|Morelull}} (multiple)
* {{p|Aipom}} (multiple)
* {{p|Mr. Mime}}
* {{p|Snubbull}}
* {{p|Lickitung}} (×2)
* {{p|Growlithe}} (multiple)
* {{p|Ludicolo}}
* {{p|Golurk}} (×3)
* {{p|Arcanine}} (×2)
* {{p|Magnemite}}
* {{p|Kingler}} (×2)
* {{p|Slaking}} (×2)
* {{p|Snorlax}}
* {{p|Machamp}} (×2)
* {{p|Pangoro}} (×3)
* {{p|Pidgeot}} (×2)
* {{p|Loudred}} (multiple)
* {{p|Blastoise}}
* {{p|Haunter}}
* {{p|Gengar}} (multiple)
* {{p|Magikarp}}
* {{p|Cubone}}
* {{p|Riolu}}
* {{p|Rattata}}
* {{p|Treecko}}
* {{p|Octillery}}
* {{p|Mismagius}}
* {{p|Mewtwo}} ({{OBP|Mewtwo|Detective Pikachu|Detective Pikachu}})
* {{p|Gyarados}}
* {{p|Purrloin}}
* {{p|Sneasel}} (multiple)
* {{p|Torterra}} (×5)
* {{p|Doduo}}
* {{p|Graveler}}
* {{p|Togepi}}
* {{p|Totodile}}

==Cast==
{{cast/h|Pika}}
{{cast|Pika|Detective Pikachu (character)|disp=Detective Pikachu|wp:Ryan Reynolds{{!}}Ryan Reynolds (voice)|Great Detective Pikachu|wp:Hidetoshi Nishijima (actor){{!}}Hidetoshi Nishijima|名探偵ピカチュウ|西島秀俊|top=yes}}
{{cast|Pika|Tim Goodman|disp=Tim Goodman|wp:Justice Smith{{!}}Justice Smith|Tim Goodman|wp:Ryoma Takeuchi{{!}}Ryōma Takeuchi|ティム・グッドマン|竹内涼真}}
{{cast|Pika|Lucy Stevens|wp:Kathryn Newton{{!}}Kathryn Newton|Lucy|wp:Marie Iitoyo{{!}}Marie Iitoyo|ルーシー|飯豊まりえ}}
{{cast|Pika|Lieutenant Hide Yoshida|wp:Ken Watanabe{{!}}Ken Watanabe|Assistant Inspector Yoshida|wp:Ken Watanabe {{!}}Ken Watanabe|ヨシダ警部補|渡辺謙}}
{{cast|Pika|Harry Goodman|wp:Paul Kitson{{!}}Paul Kitson|Harry Goodman||ハリー・グッドマン||link=no}}
{{cast|Pika|Jack (Detective Pikachu)|disp=Jack|wp:Karan Soni{{!}}Karan Soni|Jack|Yūki Kaji|ジャック|梶裕貴}}
{{cast|Pika|Sebastian (Detective Pikachu)|disp=Sebastian|wp:Omar Chaparro{{!}}Omar Chaparro|Sebastian|Kenta Miyake|セバスチャン|三宅健太}}
{{cast|Pika|Howard Clifford|wp:Bill Nighy{{!}}Bill Nighy|Howard|wp:Hiroshi Naka{{!}}Hiroshi Naka|ハワード|中博史}}
{{cast|Pika|Roger Clifford|wp:Chris Geere{{!}}Chris Geere|Roger|Shin'ichirō Miki|ロジャー|三木眞一郎}}
{{cast|Pika|Ms. Norman|wp:Suki Waterhouse{{!}}Suki Waterhouse||||}}
{{cast|Pika|Dr. Ann Laurent|wp:Rita Ora{{!}}Rita Ora|Dr. Laurent|Megumi Hayashibara|ローラン博士|林原めぐみ}}
{{cast|Pika|DJ|wp:Diplo{{!}}Diplo|DJ|Kaito Ishikawa|DJ|石川界人|bottom=yes}}
|}

==Staff==
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|-
! colspan="2" class="header" style="text-align: center; color: #000" | Detective Pikachu
|-
! colspan="2" class="header" style="text-align: center; background: #{{colorschemelight|Pika}}; {{roundytop|20px}}" | {{j|名探偵ピカチュウ}} ''Great Detective Pikachu''
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! width="35%" style="background: #f0f0f0" | Director
|
* {{wp|Rob Letterman}}
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Casting
|
* Sarah Halley Finn
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Music
|
* {{wp|Henry Jackman}}
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Costume designer
|
* Suzie Harman
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Film editors
|
* {{wp|Mark Sanger}}
* James Thomas
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Production designer
|
* Nigel Phelps
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Director of photography
|
* {{wp|John Mathieson (cinematographer)|John Mathieson}}
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Executive producers
|
* Joe Caracciolo, Jr.
* Ali Mendes
* [[Tsunekazu Ishihara]]
* [[Kenji Okubo]]
* Toshio Miyahara
* Keiji Ota
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Producers
|
* {{wp|Mary Parent}}
* Cale Boyter
* Hidenaga Katakami
* Don McGowan
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Screenplay
|
* Dan Hernandez
* Benji Samit
* Rob Letterman
* {{wp|Derek Connolly}}
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Story
|
* Dan Hernandez
* Benji Samit
* {{wp|Nicole Perlman}}
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Co-producer
|
* Alexandra Mendes
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Visual effects
|
* {{wp|Moving Picture Company}}
* {{wp|Framestore}}
|}

==Soundtrack==
{{main|Pokémon Detective Pikachu Original Motion Picture Soundtrack}}
The film's score was composed by {{wp|Henry Jackman}}. The movie features the {{game|Red and Blue|s}} title theme under the title [[Game Boy: Entire Pokémon Sounds Collection CD|Red & Blue Theme]], [[Carry On]] by {{wp|Kygo}} and {{wp|Rita Ora}}, and [[ELECTRICITY]] by the {{wp|Honest Boyz}} featuring {{wp|Lil Uzi Vert}} over the ending credits. The songs Le Fantôme de Saint Bechet and Payin No Mind by {{wp|Glenn Crytzer}}, [[Pokémon Theme|Gotta Catch 'Em All (Pokémon Theme)]], Jigglypuff by [[Rachel Lillis]], Goh by {{wp|What So Not}} & {{wp|Skrillex}} featuring KLP, and Kyoto Mist by David Wahler were featured during the film itself.

The songs {{wp|Happy Together (song)|Happy Together}} by {{wp|The Turtles}}, {{wp|Holding Out for a Hero}} by {{wp|Bonnie Tyler}}, and {{wp|What a Wonderful World}} by {{wp|Louis Armstrong}} were also featured in trailers for the film. In the Japanese versions of trailers featuring Holding Out for a Hero, the {{jwp|ヒーロー HOLDING OUT FOR A HERO|1984 cover}} by {{jwp|麻倉未稀|Miki Asakura}} is used in its place.

==Events==
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==Release==
{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{colorschemedark|Pika}}; border:3px solid #{{colorschemelight|Pika}}"
! style="background: #{{colorschemelight|Pika}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Date
! style="background: #{{colorschemelight|Pika}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Locations
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="white-space:nowrap" | May 3, 2019
| Japan
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="white-space:nowrap" | May 8, 2019
| {{pmin|Belgium}}, {{pmin|France}}, {{pmin|Indonesia}}, Luxembourg, Malta, {{pmin|the Netherlands|Netherlands}}, {{pmin|Sweden}}, Switzerland (French)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="white-space:nowrap" | May 9, 2019
| Antigua and Barbuda, {{pmin|Latin America|Argentina}}, Aruba, {{pmin|Australia}}, {{pmin|Latin America|Bolivia}}, {{pmin|Brazil}}, Brunei, {{pmin|Latin America|Chile}}, {{pmin|Latin America|Colombia}}, {{pmin|the Czech Republic|Czech Republic}}, {{pmin|Denmark}}, {{pmin|Latin America|Dominican Republic}}, Fiji, {{pmin|Germany}}, Georgia, {{pmin|Denmark|Greenland}}, {{pmin|Greater China|Hong Kong}}, {{pmin|Hungary}}, Laos, {{pmin|Italy}}, {{pmin|Israel}}, {{pmin|Greater China|Macau}}, {{pmin|Malaysia}}, {{pmin|Latin America|Panama}}, Papua New Guinea, {{pmin|Latin America|Paraguay}}, {{pmin|Latin America|Peru}}, {{pmin|the Philippines|Philippines}}, {{pmin|Portugal}}, Puerto Rico, St. Kitts and Nevis, St. Lucia, St. Maarten, {{pmin|Singapore}}, {{pmin|South Korea}}, Switzerland (German, Italian), {{pmin|Greater China|Taiwan}}, {{pmin|Slovakia}}, {{pmin|Thailand}}, {{pmin|Ukraine}}, {{pmin|the Arab world|United Arab Emirates}}, U.S. Virgin Islands, {{pmin|Latin America|Uruguay}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="white-space:nowrap" | May 10, 2019
| Andorra, Austria, {{pmin|Bulgaria}}, Cambodia, {{pmin|Canada}}, {{pmin|Greater China|Mainland China}}, {{pmin|Latin America|Costa Rica}}, {{pmin|Latin America|Ecuador}}, {{pmin|Latin America|El Salvador}}, Estonia, {{pmin|Finland}}, Guadeloupe, {{pmin|Latin America|Guatemala}}, {{pmin|Latin America|Honduras}}, {{pmin|Iceland}}, {{pmin|South Asia|India}}, {{pmin|Ireland}}, Latvia, {{pmin|Lithuania}}, {{pmin|Latin America|Mexico}}, Mongolia, Nigeria, {{pmin|Norway}}, {{pmin|Latin America|Nicaragua}}, {{pmin|South Asia|Pakistan}}, {{pmin|Spain}} (Basque, Spanish), {{pmin|South Asia|Sri Lanka}}, {{pmin|Turkey}}, {{pmin|the United Kingdom|United Kingdom}}, {{pmin|the United States|United States}}, {{pmin|Latin America|Venezuela}}, {{pmin|Vietnam}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="white-space:nowrap" | May 15, 2019
| Trinidad and Tobago
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="white-space:nowrap" | May 16, 2019
| {{pmin|Albania}}, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, {{pmin|Croatia}}, Cyprus, Guyana, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Montenegro, {{pmin|New Zealand}}, {{pmin|North Macedonia}}, {{pmin|Russia}}, {{pmin|Serbia}}, Slovenia
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="white-space:nowrap" | May 17, 2019
| South Africa
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="white-space:nowrap" | May 31, 2019
| {{pmin|Poland}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="white-space:nowrap" | June 7, 2019
| {{pmin|Spain}} (Catalan), {{pmin|Romania}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="white-space:nowrap" | June 13, 2019
| {{pmin|the Arab world|Bahrain}}, {{pmin|Greece}}, {{pmin|the Arab world|Jordan}}, {{pmin|the Arab world|Lebanon}}, {{pmin|the Arab world|Kuwait}}, {{pmin|the Arab world|Oman}}, {{pmin|the Arab world|Qatar}}, {{pmin|the Arab world|Saudi Arabia}}, {{pmin|the Arab world|Syria}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="white-space:nowrap" | July 10, 2019
| {{pmin|the Arab world|Egypt}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="white-space:nowrap" | N/A
| {{pmin|South Asia|Bangladesh}}, Kenya, Tanzania
|-
! style="background: #{{colorschemelight|Pika}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" colspan="3" |
|}

==Trivia==

* The rights to distribute the film outside Japan were initially won by {{wp|Universal Studios|Universal Pictures}}, but were eventually taken over by {{wp|Warner Bros. Pictures|Warner Bros.}}, a distributor of previous Pokémon films.
* This is one of two Pokémon-related movies to be released in 2019, with the other being the [[M22|twenty-second anime movie]]. Coincidentally, both movies prominently feature a Mewtwo and heavily use CGI.
* While the movie takes liberties with the original plot of the Detective Pikachu video game, it does reveal the ultimate fate of Tim's father, which was not addressed in the source material.
* The Jigglypuff shown in the coffee shop wielding a microphone/marker is a reference to the {{an|Jigglypuff}} in the [[Pokémon anime]].
* The Greninja uses water swords just like [[Greninja (Super Smash Bros.)|the one in Super Smash Bros.]] does.
* The gangster movie playing on the TV when Tim enters Harry's apartment for the first time is the movie that Kevin McCallister watches in the 1991 film {{wp|Home Alone}}. The movie in question, titled "Angels with Filthy Souls", is not a real one, and was made specially for use in ''Home Alone''.
* When attempting to calm Psyduck, Detective Pikachu yells "Serenity Now!". This is a reference to the 1997 {{wp|Seinfeld}} episode "{{wp|The Serenity Now}}", in which Frank Costanza is told to yell the phrase whenever he is angry, in order to lower his blood pressure.

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==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
{{bulbanews|game|Detective Pikachu}}
* [http://www.detectivepikachumovie.com/ Official website]
* [https://www.facebook.com/detectivepikachumovie/ ''POKÉMON Detective Pikachu'' on Facebook]
* [https://twitter.com/DetPikachuMovie ''POKÉMON Detective Pikachu'' on Twitter]
* [https://www.instagram.com/detectivepikachumovie/ ''POKÉMON Detective Pikachu'' on Instagram]
* [https://meitantei-pikachu.jp/ Official website] (Japanese)
* [https://www.facebook.com/meitantei.pikachu/ ''POKÉMON Detective Pikachu'' on Facebook] (Japanese)
* [https://twitter.com/meitantei_pika ''POKÉMON Detective Pikachu'' on Twitter] (Japanese)
* [https://www.instagram.com/meitantei_pikachu ''POKÉMON Detective Pikachu'' on Instagram] (Japanese)
* [https://weibo.com/detectivepikachu ''POKÉMON Detective Pikachu'' on Weibo] (Simplified Chinese)
* [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5884052/ Film on the IMDb database]
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POKÉMON Detective Pikachu

2019-05-15T04:58:34Z

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:''For other uses, see [[Detective Pikachu]].''
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'''POKÉMON Detective Pikachu''' (Japanese: '''名探偵ピカチュウ''' ''Great Detective Pikachu'') is a live-action [[Pokémon movie]] focusing on the character {{OBP|Detective Pikachu|character}}, who was first introduced in the [[Nintendo 3DS]] game {{ga|Detective Pikachu|of the same name}}. It was released in Japanese theaters on May 3, 2019 and in North American theaters on May 10, 2019. The film was produced by {{wp|Legendary Entertainment}} and distributed by {{wp|Warner Bros.}} outside of Japan and Mainland China, where it was distributed by [[Toho]] and {{wp|Legendary East}}, respectively.

The movie was first revealed in July 2016. Filming took place in {{wp|London}} from January to May 2018. The logo and title for were revealed during the opening ceremony of the [[2018 World Championships]] on August 24, 2018.

Directed by {{wp|Rob Letterman}}, ''Detective Pikachu'' is the first live-action film in the Pokémon franchise, in addition to CGI-animated Pokémon. The movie features {{wp|Ryan Reynolds}} as the voice of {{OBP|Detective Pikachu|character}}, {{wp|Justice Smith}} as [[Tim Goodman]], and {{wp|Kathryn Newton}} as [[Lucy Stevens]].

==Other posters and logos==
<gallery>
Detective Pikachu movie teaser poster.png|Teaser poster
Detective Pikachu movie poster.png|First poster
Detective Pikachu movie poster 2.png|Second poster
Detective Pikachu movie poster 3.png|Third poster
Detective Pikachu movie poster 4.png|Fourth poster
Detective Pikachu movie poster Dolby Cinema.png|Dolby Cinema poster by Aracely Muñoz
Detective Pikachu movie Japanese poster.png|First Japanese poster
Detective Pikachu movie Japanese poster 2.png|Second Japanese poster
Detective Pikachu movie Japanese poster IMAX.png|Japanese IMAX poster
Detective Pikachu movie logo.png|English logo
Detective Pikachu movie Japanese logo.png|Japanese logo
</gallery>

==Blurb==
The story begins when ace private eye Harry Goodman goes mysteriously missing, prompting his 21-year-old son Tim to find out what happened. Aiding in the investigation is Harry’s former Pokémon partner, Detective Pikachu: a hilariously wise-cracking, adorable super-sleuth who is a puzzlement even to himself. Finding that they are uniquely equipped to communicate with one another, Tim and Pikachu join forces on a thrilling adventure to unravel the tangled mystery. Chasing clues together through the neon-lit streets of Ryme City—a sprawling, modern metropolis where humans and Pokémon live side by side in a hyper-realistic live-action world—they encounter a diverse cast of Pokémon characters and uncover a shocking plot that could destroy this peaceful co-existence and threaten the whole Pokémon universe.

==Plot==
{{spoilers}}
{{incomplete plot}}
After his father, [[Harry Goodman]], disappears in a past automobile accident, [[Tim Goodman]] travels to [[Ryme City]] to look for clues, and meets the gruff, talkative {{OBP|Detective Pikachu|character}}, who was partnered with Tim's father. They team up to search for him, along with solving other mysteries across Ryme City. Along the way, they encounter Lucy Stevens, an up-and-coming reporter who assists them in their attempt to find out what happened to Harry. The investigation leads them to discover the existence of the dangerous R gas, which strips away a Pokémon's higher cognitive functions and reduces them to mindless rage. It is eventually revealed that the true villain of the story is Howard Clifford, the founder of Ryme City, who wanted to capture Mewtwo so as to use its powers to merge Pokémon and people together. It is revealed that Harry was working with Clifford to help capture Mewtwo, but ultimately betrayed him due to moral reservations about the project. Though Clifford attempted to murder him using his squadron of Greninja, a grateful Mewtwo saved his life by merging his soul with that of his partner Pikachu and sending him to find his son. After defeating Clifford and saving Mewtwo, as well as the population of Ryme City, Mewtwo reverses the merger and Harry and his son finally reconcile. Tim decides to stay in Ryme City to live with his father and his Pikachu, now an ordinary Pikachu once again.

==Featured Pokémon==
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OBP|Detective Pikachu|character}})

==Characters==
===Humans===
* [[Tim Goodman]]
* [[Lucy Stevens]]
* [[Lieutenant Hide Yoshida]]
* [[Harry Goodman]]
* [[Howard Clifford]]
* [[Roger Clifford]]
* [[Dr. Ann Laurent]]
* [[Jack (Detective Pikachu)|Jack]]
* [[Sebastian (Detective Pikachu)|Sebastian]]

===Pokémon===
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OBP|Detective Pikachu|character}})
* {{p|Psyduck}} (({{OP|Lucy|Psyduck}})
* {{p|Ditto}} (Howard's; [[Ms. Norman]])
* {{p|Eevee}} (Howard's; evolves)
* {{p|Flareon}} (Howard's; newly evolved)
* {{p|Charizard}} ({{OP|Sebastian|Charizard}})
* {{p|Greninja}} (×5)
* {{p|Charmander}} (multiple)
* {{p|Dodrio}} (×3)
* {{p|Bouffalant}}
* {{p|Flabébé}} ({{DL|List of Pokémon with form differences|Flabébé|Red, Blue, Yellow, Orange, and White Flower}}; multiple)
* {{p|Venusaur}} (×2)
* {{p|Audino}} (×2)
* {{p|Comfey}} (multiple)
* {{p|Pidgeotto}}
* {{p|Braviary}} (×4)
* {{p|Squirtle}} (×5)
* {{p|Rufflet}} (×2)
* {{p|Pancham}} (multiple)
* {{p|Jigglypuff}} (×4)
* {{p|Emolga}} (multiple)
* {{p|Joltik}} (×6)
* {{p|Bulbasaur}} (multiple)
* {{p|Morelull}} (multiple)
* {{p|Aipom}} (multiple)
* {{p|Mr. Mime}}
* {{p|Snubbull}}
* {{p|Lickitung}} (×2)
* {{p|Growlithe}} (multiple)
* {{p|Ludicolo}}
* {{p|Golurk}} (×3)
* {{p|Arcanine}} (×2)
* {{p|Magnemite}}
* {{p|Kingler}} (×2)
* {{p|Slaking}} (×2)
* {{p|Snorlax}}
* {{p|Machamp}} (×2)
* {{p|Pangoro}} (×3)
* {{p|Pidgeot}} (×2)
* {{p|Loudred}} (multiple)
* {{p|Blastoise}}
* {{p|Haunter}}
* {{p|Gengar}} (multiple)
* {{p|Magikarp}}
* {{p|Cubone}}
* {{p|Riolu}}
* {{p|Rattata}}
* {{p|Treecko}}
* {{p|Octillery}}
* {{p|Mismagius}}
* {{p|Mewtwo}} ({{OBP|Mewtwo|Detective Pikachu|Detective Pikachu}})
* {{p|Gyarados}}
* {{p|Purrloin}}
* {{p|Sneasel}} (multiple)
* {{p|Torterra}} (×5)
* {{p|Doduo}}
* {{p|Graveler}}
* {{p|Togepi}}
* {{p|Totodile}}

==Cast==
{{cast/h|Pika}}
{{cast|Pika|Detective Pikachu (character)|disp=Detective Pikachu|wp:Ryan Reynolds{{!}}Ryan Reynolds (voice)|Great Detective Pikachu|wp:Hidetoshi Nishijima (actor){{!}}Hidetoshi Nishijima|名探偵ピカチュウ|西島秀俊|top=yes}}
{{cast|Pika|Tim Goodman|disp=Tim Goodman|wp:Justice Smith{{!}}Justice Smith|Tim Goodman|wp:Ryoma Takeuchi{{!}}Ryōma Takeuchi|ティム・グッドマン|竹内涼真}}
{{cast|Pika|Lucy Stevens|wp:Kathryn Newton{{!}}Kathryn Newton|Lucy|wp:Marie Iitoyo{{!}}Marie Iitoyo|ルーシー|飯豊まりえ}}
{{cast|Pika|Lieutenant Hide Yoshida|wp:Ken Watanabe{{!}}Ken Watanabe|Assistant Inspector Yoshida|wp:Ken Watanabe {{!}}Ken Watanabe|ヨシダ警部補|渡辺謙}}
{{cast|Pika|Harry Goodman|wp:Paul Kitson{{!}}Paul Kitson|Harry Goodman||ハリー・グッドマン||link=no}}
{{cast|Pika|Jack (Detective Pikachu)|disp=Jack|wp:Karan Soni{{!}}Karan Soni|Jack|Yūki Kaji|ジャック|梶裕貴}}
{{cast|Pika|Sebastian (Detective Pikachu)|disp=Sebastian|wp:Omar Chaparro{{!}}Omar Chaparro|Sebastian|Kenta Miyake|セバスチャン|三宅健太}}
{{cast|Pika|Howard Clifford|wp:Bill Nighy{{!}}Bill Nighy|Howard|wp:Hiroshi Naka{{!}}Hiroshi Naka|ハワード|中博史}}
{{cast|Pika|Roger Clifford|wp:Chris Geere{{!}}Chris Geere|Roger|Shin'ichirō Miki|ロジャー|三木眞一郎}}
{{cast|Pika|Ms. Norman|wp:Suki Waterhouse{{!}}Suki Waterhouse||||}}
{{cast|Pika|Dr. Ann Laurent|wp:Rita Ora{{!}}Rita Ora|Dr. Laurent|Megumi Hayashibara|ローラン博士|林原めぐみ}}
{{cast|Pika|DJ|wp:Diplo{{!}}Diplo|DJ|Kaito Ishikawa|DJ|石川界人|bottom=yes}}
|}

==Staff==
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! colspan="2" class="header" style="text-align: center; color: #000" | Detective Pikachu
|-
! colspan="2" class="header" style="text-align: center; background: #{{colorschemelight|Pika}}; {{roundytop|20px}}" | {{j|名探偵ピカチュウ}} ''Great Detective Pikachu''
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! width="35%" style="background: #f0f0f0" | Director
|
* {{wp|Rob Letterman}}
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Casting
|
* Sarah Halley Finn
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Music
|
* {{wp|Henry Jackman}}
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Costume designer
|
* Suzie Harman
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Film editors
|
* {{wp|Mark Sanger}}
* James Thomas
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Production designer
|
* Nigel Phelps
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Director of photography
|
* {{wp|John Mathieson (cinematographer)|John Mathieson}}
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Executive producers
|
* Joe Caracciolo, Jr.
* Ali Mendes
* [[Tsunekazu Ishihara]]
* [[Kenji Okubo]]
* Toshio Miyahara
* Keiji Ota
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Producers
|
* {{wp|Mary Parent}}
* Cale Boyter
* Hidenaga Katakami
* Don McGowan
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Screenplay
|
* Dan Hernandez
* Benji Samit
* Rob Letterman
* {{wp|Derek Connolly}}
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Story
|
* Dan Hernandez
* Benji Samit
* {{wp|Nicole Perlman}}
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Co-producer
|
* Alexandra Mendes
|- style="background: #f8f8f8"
! style="background: #f0f0f0" | Visual effects
|
* {{wp|Moving Picture Company}}
* {{wp|Framestore}}
|}

==Soundtrack==
{{main|Pokémon Detective Pikachu Original Motion Picture Soundtrack}}
The film's score was composed by {{wp|Henry Jackman}}. The movie features the {{game|Red and Blue|s}} title theme under the title [[Game Boy: Entire Pokémon Sounds Collection CD|Red & Blue Theme]], [[Carry On]] by {{wp|Kygo}} and {{wp|Rita Ora}}, and [[ELECTRICITY]] by the {{wp|Honest Boyz}} featuring {{wp|Lil Uzi Vert}} over the ending credits. The songs Le Fantôme de Saint Bechet and Payin No Mind by {{wp|Glenn Crytzer}}, [[Pokémon Theme|Gotta Catch 'Em All (Pokémon Theme)]], Jigglypuff by [[Rachel Lillis]], Goh by {{wp|What So Not}} & {{wp|Skrillex}} featuring KLP, and Kyoto Mist by David Wahler were featured during the film itself.

The songs {{wp|Happy Together (song)|Happy Together}} by {{wp|The Turtles}}, {{wp|Holding Out for a Hero}} by {{wp|Bonnie Tyler}}, and {{wp|What a Wonderful World}} by {{wp|Louis Armstrong}} were also featured in trailers for the film. In the Japanese versions of trailers featuring Holding Out for a Hero, the {{jwp|ヒーロー HOLDING OUT FOR A HERO|1984 cover}} by {{jwp|麻倉未稀|Miki Asakura}} is used in its place.

==Events==
{{incomplete|section}}

==Release==
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| style="white-space:nowrap" | May 3, 2019
| Japan
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="white-space:nowrap" | May 8, 2019
| {{pmin|Belgium}}, {{pmin|France}}, {{pmin|Indonesia}}, Luxembourg, Malta, {{pmin|the Netherlands|Netherlands}}, {{pmin|Sweden}}, Switzerland (French)
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==Trivia==

* The rights to distribute the film outside Japan were initially won by {{wp|Universal Studios|Universal Pictures}}, but were eventually taken over by {{wp|Warner Bros. Pictures|Warner Bros.}}, a distributor of previous Pokémon films.
* This is one of two Pokémon-related movies to be released in 2019, with the other being the [[M22|twenty-second anime movie]]. Coincidentally, both movies prominently feature a Mewtwo and heavily use CGI.
* While the movie takes liberties with the original plot of the Detective Pikachu video game, it does reveal the ultimate fate of Tim's father, which was not addressed in the source material.
* The Jigglypuff shown in the coffee shop wielding a microphone/marker is a reference to the {{an|Jigglypuff}} in the [[Pokémon anime]].
* The Greninja uses water swords just like [[Greninja (Super Smash Bros.)|the one in Super Smash Bros.]] does.
* The gangster movie playing on the TV when Tim enters Harry's apartment for the first time is the movie that Kevin McCallister watches in the 1991 film {{wp|Home Alone}}. The movie in question, titled "Angels with Filthy Souls", is not a real one, and was made specially for use in ''Home Alone''.
* When attempting to calm Psyduck, Detective Pikachu yells "Serenity Now!". This is a reference to the 1997 {{wp|Seinfeld}} episode "{{wp|The Serenity Now}}", in which Frank Costanza is told to yell the phrase whenever he is angry, in order to lower his blood pressure.

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==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
{{bulbanews|game|Detective Pikachu}}
* [http://www.detectivepikachumovie.com/ Official website]
* [https://www.facebook.com/detectivepikachumovie/ ''POKÉMON Detective Pikachu'' on Facebook]
* [https://twitter.com/DetPikachuMovie ''POKÉMON Detective Pikachu'' on Twitter]
* [https://www.instagram.com/detectivepikachumovie/ ''POKÉMON Detective Pikachu'' on Instagram]
* [https://meitantei-pikachu.jp/ Official website] (Japanese)
* [https://www.facebook.com/meitantei.pikachu/ ''POKÉMON Detective Pikachu'' on Facebook] (Japanese)
* [https://twitter.com/meitantei_pika ''POKÉMON Detective Pikachu'' on Twitter] (Japanese)
* [https://www.instagram.com/meitantei_pikachu ''POKÉMON Detective Pikachu'' on Instagram] (Japanese)
* [https://weibo.com/detectivepikachu ''POKÉMON Detective Pikachu'' on Weibo] (Simplified Chinese)
* [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5884052/ Film on the IMDb database]
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Harry Goodman

2019-05-12T00:50:50Z

SeanWheeler: First of all, if it's a soft redirect because Harry is Pikachu in the movie, that is a major spoiler for me who's planning to see it tomorrow, and secondly in the game Harry was a separate person from Pikachu.

Talk:Ash Ketchum (M20)

2019-05-11T21:13:47Z

SeanWheeler: /* Move? */

Talk:Leaf (game)

2018-12-18T05:45:20Z

SeanWheeler: /* The "Green/Leaf" title is REALLY necessary? */

Talk:Elio (game)

2018-04-05T23:39:33Z

SeanWheeler: /* Noteworthy? First game character (alongside Moon) to be named after their game after Red */

==Move?==
Should this be moved to something like {{redlink|Sun (player character)}}? Sun (game) makes it sound like it's about the game, not the character from the game.
The series' tendency to name its main characters the same as its games is a little bit bothersome, at times.
[[User:Xolroc|Xolroc]] ([[User talk:Xolroc|talk]]) 02:24, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
:On second thought, never mind. This follows the same pattern as articles like [[Blue (game)]] and [[Gold (game)]] (the latter a redirect to [[Ethan (game)]]).[[User:Xolroc|Xolroc]] ([[User talk:Xolroc|talk]]) 02:26, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
::If I'm remembering correctly, it used to be "game character", but was shortened for simplicity. It is a little confusing, though. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 02:29, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
:::I agree that it's a little confusing, but it seems to be the best option we have at the moment. The same-name notice at the top of the article should be sufficient enough to direct visitors to the correct place. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 02:57, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

== Kai ==

Just wanted to point out that "Kai" is also a possible reading of "海" (sea/ocean), such as in "pirate" (海賊 ''kaizoku'') or "sea king" (海王 ''kaiō''). [[User:Ratcicle Fan|Ratcicle Fan]] ([[User talk:Ratcicle Fan|talk]]) 14:41, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

== Age ==

In the Aether Paradise, it is revealed that the player character is "around 11 years old." Thought I'd mention it first instead of just adding it. [[User:KyuremsIceBlade|'''''Kyurem's''''']] [[User talk:KyuremsIceBlade|'''''Ice''''']] [[Special:Contributions/KyuremsIceBlade|'''''Blade''''']] 03:33, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

== Hometown ==

Sun is the only player character to not have a hometown, living in a route instead for the fist time in a core series game in the pokémon franchise.--[[User:Robin Maximo|Robin Maximo]] ([[User talk:Robin Maximo|talk]]) 20:25, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

== Kai and Lana ==

If there is internal data in the games that calls the player characters of S/M Kai and Lana, then why on Earth aren't we calling them that? That's what we do for the female PC of FR/LG. We call her Leaf based entirely on the data in the game code. [[User:Ericss|Ericss]] ([[User talk:Ericss|talk]]) 12:10, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
:Leaf is also one of her optional names in English, while カイ and ラナ are not used anywhere else, and never in English. This has also been discussed [[Talk:Player character#Sun and Moon's Names|here]]. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 12:30, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

==Name==
I thought his name was Elio. Someone should fix that. [[User:C3kids|C3kids]] ([[User talk:C3kids|talk]]) 21:50, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
:It's already noted in the Trivia section. --[[User:神奇超龍|'''超龍''']]「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|Chao]]'''」 02:57, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

==USUM Images==
Can an autoconfirmed user please add the new USUM art here if that's okay? It's available on the official site. [[User:Elbunnies|Elbunnies]] ([[User talk:Elbunnies|talk]]) 13:27, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

== Move and split ==

May I please rename the page and split it if that's okay? [[User:SaturnMario|SaturnMario]], [[User talk:SaturnMario|his talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/SaturnMario|his contributions]] 23:04, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
:For those of us who aren't in the know, can you explain where you've come up with the names "Ray" and "Ailey"? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:12, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
::They're from [https://youtu.be/8rQLqeX_LcQ?t=50s here] against [https://youtu.be/47-xOiNGzgw?t=18s this]. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 01:13, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
:::Thanks. Is there any evidence to suggest they're new, separate characters rather than just the same old characters using a new set of promotional names? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 01:25, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
::::[http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/ultra/en-us/alola-region.html Official website] states that they have changed to new outfits, which implies that they're the same. Besides, it's still premature to make such changes from pre-release information. This isn't any different from Blair/Whitlea, Xavier/Yvonne, Orlando/Anna... --[[User:神奇超龍|'''超龍''']]「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|Chao]]'''」 01:45, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
:::::It actually is different, to be fair. Ray and Ailey are, at the very least, the current officially-used names, the previous promotional names having fallen into disuse, and there isn't even an alternate option for each this time. That is to say, they aren't any less valid than Sun and Moon and happen to be currently in use while the latter names are not. We should also consider the fact that, this time, they were also given specific non-version Japanese names, which didn't happen for Blair/Whitlea (Kuro/Shiro), Xavier/Yvonne (X/Y) or Orlando/Anna (Omega/Alpha). - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] ([[User talk:Taylor|talk]]) 01:57, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
::::::Still, the games are not even out yet, so we can't be certain that they are the default names. As such, Ray and Ailey will be treated as names used in pre-release media until further notice. --[[User:神奇超龍|'''超龍''']]「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|Chao]]'''」 06:37, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
:Why do you try to move the page to Ailey instead of Selene, even Japanese uses different names (Mitzuki, the official name, and Koumi)? (Of course this does not mean they are different roles.) [[User:E9310103838|E9310103838]] ([[User talk:E9310103838|talk]]) 02:20, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
:Why? It seems like "Sun" and "Ray" are still going to be the same character. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:35, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
I say we leave the article as is. It’s obvious now that the player characters of both Sun & Moon and Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon are the same characters. They have the same mom, same house, sale everything. They just updated their look like they did with third versions and remakes in the past. [[User:Toolen|Toolen]] ([[User talk:Toolen|talk]]) 15:50, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

== Noteworthy? First game character (alongside Moon) to be named after their game after Red ==

Is it noteworthy (in the Trivia section) that Sun and Moon are the first player characters since the '''first''' Generation's Red to be named after one of their games? [[User:Mr. Flix|- MxFlix]] ([[User talk:Mr. Flix|talk]]) 11:16, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
:I don't know what staff will say, but we don't usually do "first since" (aka "drought") trivia except on anime pages. Everywhere else, it typically has to actually be the first thing ever in order to be notable. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:57, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

:And {{ga|Ethan}} was named in HeartGold and SoulSilver ten years after Gold and Silver, so no. Oh, do you mean named the same as the title of their games? Not really notable when Ethan was known in those ten years as Gold, and the names Sun and Moon aren't really official. Nope, don't think so. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 23:39, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

== Rename ==
It's pretty much official his name is Ray. Why didn't we already renamed this article? If so, can I do it? Same with Moon, who is actually named Ailey. {{unsigned|Trainer Ray}}

== 11 years old. ==

He is 11 years old. Why is it listed as 11-14?{{unsigned|Trainer Ray}}

Ash's friends

2016-08-30T04:09:04Z

SeanWheeler: /* Serena */ Is that an opinion?

''This article is about Ash's main and temporary traveling companions. If you were looking for a general list of people Ash has met on his journey, see [[Character of the day]].''
----
[[File:Ash and friends XY 2.png|270px|thumb|{{Ash}} and his traveling companions from the {{series|XY}}, (L-R) {{an|Clemont}}, {{an|Serena}} and {{an|Bonnie}}.]]
'''Ash's friends''' are the traveling companions that [[Ash Ketchum]] has had with him on his journey on his quest to become a [[Pokémon Master]]. While he started his journey alone, many people have joined his party while touring the [[Pokémon world]]; usually at least one new companion joins—and another leaves—every time a new region is visited.

[[Johto]] is the only region where Ash did not acquire a new friend that would travel with him, excluding {{an|Brock}}, who came back after his [[S02|absence]], and [[Todd Snap]] and [[Ritchie]], who both traveled with him temporarily.

==[[Original series]]==
===Misty===
[[File:Misty OS 1.png|thumb|170px|{{an|Misty}}]]
{{main|Misty (anime)}}
Misty joined Ash in ''[[EP002|Pokémon Emergency!]]'', traveling with him because she wanted him to replace her [[Bicycle|bike]], which was destroyed by his {{AP|Pikachu}}. She would continuously travel with him until ''[[EP273|Gotta Catch Ya Later!]]'', when she returned to [[Cerulean City]] nearly full-time to lead [[Cerulean Gym|her family's Gym]], though she briefly traveled to [[Hoenn]] and met up with Ash's {{series2|Advanced Generation}} group in ''[[AG044|The Princess and the Togepi]]'' and ''[[AG045|A Togepi Mirage!]]'', and again from ''[[AG132|The Scheme Team]]'' until ''[[AG134|A Real Cleffa-Hanger]]'' to "escort" her back home. She met up with her friends [[The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon|one more time]].

====Pokémon====
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|- style="background: #{{water color}};"
! colspan="4" style="text-align:left; color:#{{water color dark}};" | Hometown: {{color2|{{water color dark}}|Cerulean City}}
! colspan="3" style="text-align:right;" | {{color2|{{water color dark}}|Region|First joined in}} {{color2|{{water color dark}}|Kanto}}
|-
! colspan="7" style="background: #{{water color dark}}; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#{{water color}};" | Episodes traveled with Ash
|-
| colspan="7" style="background: #{{water color light}};{{roundybottom|5px}} color:#{{water color dark}};" | {{color2|{{water color dark}}|EP002}}-{{color2|{{water color dark}}|EP273}}, {{color2|{{water color dark}}|AG044}}-{{color2|{{water color dark}}|AG045}}, {{color2|{{water color dark}}|AG132}}-{{color2|{{water color dark}}|AG134}}, {{color2|{{water color dark}}|Mewtwo Returns}}, {{color2|{{water color dark}}|The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon}}
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! style="background: #{{water color dark}};" | {{color2|{{water color}}|Johto}}
! style="background: #{{water color dark}};" | {{color2|{{water color}}|Hoenn}}
! style="background: #{{water color dark}};" | {{color2|{{water color}}|Battle Frontier (Generation III)|Frontier}}
|- style="background: #{{water color light}};"
| {{color2|{{water color dark}}|Caught Pokémon|Caught}}
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| {{MS|116|Misty's Horsea}}{{MS|054|Misty's Psyduck}}
| {{MS|060|Misty's Poliwag}}
| {{MS|222|Misty's Corsola}}
| {{MS|130|Misty's Gyarados}}{{MS|370|Misty's Luvdisc}}
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|- style="background: #{{water color light}};"
| {{color2|{{water color dark}}|Pokémon Egg|Hatched}}
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| {{MS|175|Misty's Togepi}}
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| {{MS|298|Misty's Azurill}}
|- style="background: #{{water color light}};"
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| {{MS|061|Misty's Poliwhirl}}{{MS|186|Misty's Politoed}}
| {{MS|176|Misty's Togetic}}
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| {{color2|{{water color dark}}|Gift Pokémon|Given}}
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|- style="background: #{{water color light}};"
| {{color2|{{water color dark}}|Released Pokémon|Released}}
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| {{MS|176|Misty's Togetic}}
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| style="background: #{{water color light}}; {{roundybl|5px}}; color:#{{water color dark}};" | Unknown/Other
| style="background: #{{water color light}};" | {{MS|118|Misty's Goldeen}}{{MS|120|Misty's Staryu}}{{MS|121|Misty's Starmie}}
| style="background: #{{water color light}};" | {{MS|Egg|Misty's Togepi}}
| style="background: #{{water color light}};" |
| style="background: #{{water color light}};" |
| style="background: #{{water color light}};" |
| style="background: #{{water color light}}; {{roundybr|5px}}" |
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===Brock===
[[File:BrockDP.png|thumb|200px|{{an|Brock}}]]
{{main|Brock (anime)}}
Brock first joined Ash in ''[[EP005|Showdown in Pewter City]]'' after Ash {{pkmn|battle}}d him in the [[Pewter City]] [[Pewter Gym|Gym]]. After his father {{ka|Flint}} offered to take over the duties of [[Gym Leader]], Brock followed Ash through [[Kanto]], leaving briefly from ''[[EP083|Poké Ball Peril]]'' to ''[[EP115|A Tent Situation]]'' to work for [[Professor Ivy]]. In ''[[EP116|The Rivalry Revival]]'', Brock returned to be with Ash and {{an|Misty}} until ''[[EP273|Gotta Catch Ya Later!]]'', though he, unlike Misty, would return shortly, in ''[[AG004|You Can Never Taillow]]'', sticking with Ash until ''[[AG192|Home is Where the Start is!]]''. He would again return in ''[[DP002|Two Degrees of Separation!]]'', and so traveled through [[Sinnoh]] with Ash until ''[[DP191|Memories are Made of Bliss!]]''.

====Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{rock color}}; border: 5px solid #{{rock color}};" colspan=4 cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #{{rock color}};" colspan="7" | {{color2|{{rock color dark}}|Brock (anime)|Brock}}
|- style="background: #{{rock color}};
! colspan="4" style="text-align:left; color:#{{rock color dark}};" | Hometown: {{color2|{{rock color dark}}|Pewter City}}
! colspan="3" style="text-align:right;" | {{color2|{{rock color dark}}|Region|First joined in}} {{color2|{{rock color dark}}|Kanto}}
|-
! colspan="7" style="background: #{{rock color dark}}; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#{{rock color}};" | Episodes traveled with Ash
|-
| colspan="7" style="background: #{{rock color light}};{{roundybottom|5px}}; color:#{{rock color dark}};" | {{color2|{{rock color dark}}|EP005}}-{{color2|{{rock color dark}}|EP083}}, {{color2|{{rock color dark}}|EP116}}-{{color2|{{rock color dark}}|EP273}}, {{color2|{{rock color dark}}|AG004}}-{{color2|{{rock color dark}}|AG192}}, {{color2|{{rock color dark}}|DP002}}-{{color2|{{rock color dark}}|DP191}}, {{color2|{{rock color dark}}|Mewtwo Returns}}, {{color2|{{rock color dark}}|The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon}}
|-
|
|-
! style="background: #{{rock color dark}}; {{roundytl|5px}}; color:#{{rock color}};" | Method
! style="background: #{{rock color dark}}; color:#{{rock color}};" | Pre-series
! style="background: #{{rock color dark}};" | {{color2|{{rock color}}|Kanto}}
! style="background: #{{rock color dark}};" | {{color2|{{rock color}}|Johto}}
! style="background: #{{rock color dark}};" | {{color2|{{rock color}}|Hoenn}}
! style="background: #{{rock color dark}};" | {{color2|{{rock color}}|Battle Frontier (Generation III)|Frontier}}
! style="background: #{{rock color dark}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|{{rock color}}|Sinnoh}}
|- style="background: #{{rock color light}};"
| {{color2|{{rock color dark}}|Caught Pokémon|Caught}}
|
| {{MS|041|Brock's Zubat}}
| {{MS|204|Brock's Pineco}}
| {{MS|258|Brock's Mudkip}}{{MS|270|Brock's Lotad}}
| {{MS|438|Brock's Bonsly}}
| {{MS|453|Brock's Croagunk}}
|- style="background: #{{rock color light}};"
| {{color2|{{rock color dark}}|Pokémon Egg|Hatched}}
|
|
|
|
|
| {{MS|440|Brock's Happiny}}
|- style="background: #{{rock color light}};"
| {{color2|{{rock color dark}}|Evolution|Evolved}}
|
|
| {{MS|042|Brock's Golbat}}{{MS|169|Brock's Crobat}}{{MS|205|Brock's Forretress}}
| {{MS|271|Brock's Lombre}}{{MS|272|Brock's Ludicolo}}
| {{MS|259|Brock's Marshtomp}}{{MS|208|Brock's Steelix}}
| {{MS|185|Brock's Sudowoodo}}{{MS|113|Brock's Chansey}}
|- style="background: #{{rock color light}};"
| {{color2|{{rock color dark}}|Gift Pokémon|Given}}
| {{MS|095|Brock's Onix}}
| {{MS|037|Brock's Vulpix}}
|
|
|
| {{MS|Egg|Brock's Happiny}}
|- style="background: #{{rock color light}};"
| {{color2|{{rock color dark}}|Released Pokémon|Give Away}}
|
|
| {{MS|037|Brock's Vulpix}}
|
|
|
|-
| style="background: #{{rock color light}}; {{roundybl|5px}}; color:#{{rock color dark}};" | Unknown
| style="background: #{{rock color light}};" | {{MS|074|Brock's Geodude}}
| style="background: #{{rock color light}};" |
| style="background: #{{rock color light}};" |
| style="background: #{{rock color light}};" |
| style="background: #{{rock color light}};" |
| style="background: #{{rock color light}}; {{roundybr|5px}}" |
|}
{{-}}

===Tracey Sketchit===
[[File:TraceyEP.png|thumb|{{Tracey}}]]
{{main|Tracey Sketchit}}
After {{an|Brock}} left to work for Professor Ivy, Ash's traveling group was down to two, as it had been for the first five episodes of [[Kanto]]. However, this would not last very long, as in ''[[EP084|The Lost Lapras]]'' Ash met a [[Pokémon watcher]] named {{Tracey}} who essentially invited himself along for the rest of the [[Orange Archipelago|Orange Islands]] saga. Traveling with Ash, he wished to attain his ultimate goal of meeting {{an|Professor Oak}}, which he did when Ash returned to Kanto in ''[[EP115|A Tents Situation]]''. After this, he remained in [[Pallet Town]] to be Professor Oak's assistant in ''[[EP116|The Rivalry Revival]]''.

====Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{orange color}}; border: 5px solid #{{orange color}};" colspan=4 cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #{{orange color}};" colspan="6" | {{color2|{{orange color dark}}|Tracey Sketchit|Tracey}}
|- style="background: #{{orange color}};"
! colspan="2" style="text-align:left; color:#{{orange color dark}};" | Hometown: Unknown
! colspan="4" style="text-align:right;" | {{color2|{{orange color dark}}|Region|First joined in}} {{color2|{{orange color dark}}|Orange Archipelago|the Orange Archipelago}}
|-
! colspan="6" style="background: #{{orange color dark}}; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#{{orange color}};" | Episodes traveled with Ash
|-
| colspan="6" style="text-align:center; background: #{{orange color light}};{{roundybottom|5px}}; color:#{{orange color dark}};" | {{color2|{{orange color dark}}|EP084}}-{{color2|{{orange color dark}}|EP116}}
|-
|
|-
! style="background: #{{orange color dark}}; {{roundytl|5px}}; color:#{{orange color}};" | Method
! style="background: #{{orange color dark}}; color:#{{orange color}};" | Pre-series
! style="background: #{{orange color dark}};" | {{color2|{{orange color}}|Orange Archipelago|Orange}}
! style="background: #{{orange color dark}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|{{orange color}}|Hoenn}} {{color|{{orange color}}|/}} {{color2|{{orange color}}|Battle Frontier (Generation III)|Frontier}}
|- style="background: #{{orange color light}};"
| {{color2|{{orange color dark}}|Caught Pokémon|Caught}}
|
| {{MS|123|Tracey's Scyther}}
|
|- style="background: #{{orange color light}};"
| {{color2|{{orange color dark}}|Gift Pokémon|Given Away}}
|
|
| {{MS|Egg|Misty's Azurill}}
|-
| style="background: #{{orange color light}}; {{roundybl|5px}}; color:#{{orange color dark}};" | Unknown
| style="background: #{{orange color light}};" | {{MS|048|Tracey's Venonat}}{{MS|183|Tracey's Marill}}
| style="background: #{{orange color light}};" |
| style="background: #{{orange color light}}; {{roundybr|5px}}" |
|}
{{-}}

==[[Advanced Generation series]]==
===May===
[[File:May AG 2.png|thumb|{{an|May}}]]
{{main|May (anime)}}
Ash may have traveled to [[Hoenn]] alone; however, shortly after his arrival, he met {{an|May}}, a young girl who desired to travel around the world and a fellow Trainer who was just starting her journey, and then ended up destroying her bike just like that of Misty. Though she initially did not care for [[Pokémon battle]]s, she eventually found [[Pokémon Contest]]s, in which she competed while in Hoenn and then later in [[Kanto]]. May traveled with Ash through the entire {{series2|Advanced Generation}} saga, from ''[[AG001|Get the Show on the Road]]'' to ''[[AG192|Home is Where the Start Is!]]'', after which she went off to [[Johto]] to compete in Contests there. She, like {{an|Misty}}, reappeared briefly during the {{series|Diamond & Pearl}} to compete in the [[Wallace Cup]] from ''[[DP076|A Full Course Tag Battle!]]'' until ''[[DP079|Strategy with a Smile!]]''.

====Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{ruby color}}; border: 5px solid #{{ruby color}};" colspan=4 cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #{{ruby color}};" colspan="5" | {{color2|{{ruby color light}}|May (anime)|May}}
|- style="background: #{{ruby color}};"
! colspan="3" style="text-align:left; color:#{{ruby color light}};" | Hometown: {{color2|{{ruby color light}}|Petalburg City}}
! colspan="3" style="text-align:right;" | {{color2|{{ruby color light}}|Region|First joined in}} {{color2|{{ruby color light}}|Hoenn}}
|-
! colspan="5" style="background: #{{ruby color dark}}; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#{{ruby color light}};" | Episodes traveled with Ash
|-
| colspan="5" style="text-align:center; background: #{{ruby color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}; color:#{{ruby color dark}};" | {{color2|{{ruby color dark}}|AG001}}-{{color2|{{ruby color dark}}|AG192}}, {{color2|{{ruby color dark}}|DP076}}-{{color2|{{ruby color dark}}|DP079}}, {{color2|{{ruby color dark}}|The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon}}
|-
|
|-
! style="background: #{{ruby color dark}}; {{roundytl|5px}}; color:#{{ruby color light}};" | Method
! style="background: #{{ruby color dark}}; color:#{{ruby color light}};" | {{color2|{{ruby color light}}|Hoenn}}
! style="background: #{{ruby color dark}}; color:#{{ruby color light}};" | {{color2|{{ruby color light}}|Battle Frontier (Generation III)|Frontier}}
! style="background: #{{ruby color dark}}; color:#{{ruby color light}};" | {{color2|{{ruby color light}}|Johto}}
! style="background: #{{ruby color dark}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|{{ruby color light}}|Sinnoh}}
|- style="background: #{{ruby color light}};"
| {{color2|{{ruby color dark}}|Caught Pokémon|Caught}}
| {{MS|265|May's Wurmple}}{{MS|300|May's Skitty}}{{MS|001|May's Bulbasaur}}{{MS|446|May's Munchlax}}
|
|
|
|- style="background: #{{ruby color light}};"
| {{color2|{{ruby color dark}}|Pokémon Egg|Hatched}}
|
| {{MS|133|May's Eevee}}
|
|
|- style="background: #{{ruby color light}};"
| {{color2|{{ruby color dark}}|Evolution|Evolved}}
| {{MS|266|May's Silcoon}}{{MS|267|May's Beautifly}}{{MS|256|May's Combusken}}
|{{MS|257|May's Blaziken}}
| {{MS|008|May's Wartortle}}{{MS|002|May's Ivysaur}}{{MS|003|May's Venusaur}}
| {{MS|471|May's Glaceon}}
|-
| style="background: #{{ruby color light}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{color2|{{ruby color dark}}|Gift Pokémon|Given}}
| style="background: #{{ruby color light}};" | {{MS|255|May's Torchic}}
| style="background: #{{ruby color light}};" | {{MS|007|May's Squirtle}} {{MS|Egg|May's Eevee}}
| style="background: #{{ruby color light}};" |
| style="background: #{{ruby color light}}; {{roundybr|5px}}" |
|}
{{-}}

===Max===
[[File:MaxAG.png|thumb|200px|[[Max]]]]
{{main|Max}}
Max is {{an|May}}'s younger brother. He does not have any Pokémon of his own because he is too young, but he often befriends certain Pokémon. He traveled with the group from ''[[AG003|There's no Place Like Hoenn]]'' until ''[[AG192|Home is Where the Start Is]]'', when he went home to [[Petalburg City]]. However, he made a promise to Ash that as soon as he got his own Pokémon, he would {{pkmn|battle}} Ash.
 

{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{emerald color}}; border: 5px solid #{{emerald color}};" colspan=4 cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{emerald color}};" | {{color2|{{emerald color dark}}|Max}}
|- style="background:#{{emerald color}};"
! style="text-align:left; color:#{{emerald color dark}};" | Hometown: {{color2|{{emerald color dark}}|Petalburg City}}
! style="text-align:right;" | {{color2|{{emerald color dark}}|Region|First joined in}} {{color2|{{emerald color dark}}|Hoenn}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{emerald color dark}}; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#{{emerald color}};" | {{color|{{emerald color}}|Episodes traveled with Ash}}
|-
| colspan="2" style="background: #{{emerald color light}};{{roundybottom|5px}}; color:#{{emerald color dark}};" | {{color2|{{emerald color dark}}|AG003}}-{{color2|{{emerald color dark}}|AG192}}, {{color2|{{emerald color dark}}|The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon}}
|}
{{-}}

==[[Diamond & Pearl series]]==
===Dawn===
[[File:Dawn DP 2.png|thumb|200px|{{an|Dawn}}]]
{{main|Dawn (anime)}}
Like his journey into [[Hoenn]], Ash ventured to [[Sinnoh]] alone, where, in ''[[DP003|When Pokémon Worlds Collide!]]'', he would meet {{an|Dawn}}. From that point, after saving [[Ash's Pikachu]] and having her bike fried in a similar way to May's and Misty's, Dawn would travel with Ash and Brock through Sinnoh, which she did until ''[[DP191|Memories are Made of Bliss!]]'' when all three friends split up.

Dawn rejoins Ash's group in the {{series|Best Wishes}} in ''[[BW086|Piplup, Pansage, and a Meeting of the Times!]]'' to compete in the [[Pokémon World Tournament Junior Cup]]. Dawn would leave the group in ''[[BW093|Goodbye, Junior Cup - Hello Adventure!]]'' and travel to Johto to compete in the Wallace Cup.

====Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{pearl color}}; border: 5px solid #{{pearl color}};" colspan=4 cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #{{pearl color}};" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|Dawn (anime)|Dawn}}
|- style="background: #{{pearl color}};"
! style="text-align:left; color:#{{pearl color dark}};" | Hometown: {{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|Twinleaf Town}}
! colspan="2" style="text-align:right;" | {{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|Region|First joined in}} {{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|Sinnoh}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{pearl color dark}}; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#{{pearl color}};" | Episodes traveled with Ash
|-
| colspan="2" style="background: #{{pearl color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}; color:#{{pearl color dark}};" | {{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|DP003}}-{{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|DP191}}, {{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|BW086}}-{{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|BW093}}
|-
|
|-
! style="background: #{{pearl color dark}}; {{roundytl|5px}}; color:#{{pearl color}};" | Method
! style="background: #{{pearl color dark}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|{{pearl color}}|Sinnoh}}
|- style="background: #{{pearl color light}};"
|{{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|Caught Pokémon|Caught}}
| {{MS|427|Dawn's Buneary}}{{MS|417|Dawn's Pachirisu}}{{tt|{{color|{{pearl color dark}}|*}}|released and recaptured in DP019}}{{MS|418|Dawn's Buizel}}{{MS|220|Dawn's Swinub}}
|- style="background: #{{pearl color light}};"
| {{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|Released Pokémon|Released}}
| {{MS|417|Dawn's Pachirisu}}{{tt|{{color|{{pearl color dark}}|*}}|released and recaptured in DP019}}
|- style="background: #{{pearl color light}};"
| {{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|Pokémon Egg|Hatched}}
| {{MS|155|Dawn's Cyndaquil}}
|- style="background: #{{pearl color light}};"
| {{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|Evolution|Evolved}}
| {{MS|424|Dawn's Ambipom}}{{MS|221|Dawn's Piloswine}}{{MS|473|Dawn's Mamoswine}}{{MS|156|Dawn's Quilava}}
|- style="background: #{{pearl color light}};"
| {{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|Gift Pokémon|Given}}
| {{MS|393|Dawn's Piplup}} {{MS|Egg|Dawn's Cyndaquil}} {{MS|468|Dawn's Togekiss}}
|- style="background: #{{pearl color light}}; color:#{{pearl color dark}};"
| In training
| {{MS|424|Dawn's Ambipom}}
|- style="background: #{{pearl color light}};"
| {{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|Trade|Traded}}
| {{MS|418|Ash's Buizel}}
|-
| style="background: #{{pearl color light}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|Trade}}
| style="background: #{{pearl color light}}; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{MS|190|Dawn's Aipom}}
|}
{{-}}

==[[Best Wishes series]]==
===Iris===
[[File:IrisBW2.png|thumb|right|[[Iris (anime)|Iris]]]]
{{main|Iris (anime)}}

Iris is said to be a wild girl, as proven by the fact that she swings on vines. She decided to travel throughout [[Unova]] and the [[Decolore Islands]] with Ash from ''[[BW002|Enter Iris and Axew!]]'' until ''[[BW141|Best Wishes Until We Meet Again!]]''.

====Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{dragon color}}; border: 5px solid #{{dragon color}};" colspan=4 cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #{{dragon color}};" colspan="4" | {{color2|{{dragon color dark}}|Iris (anime)|Iris}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{dragon color}}; text-align:left; color:#{{dragon color dark}};" | Hometown: {{color2|{{dragon color dark}}|Village of Dragons}}
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{dragon color}}; text-align:right;" | {{color2|{{dragon color dark}}|Region|First joined in}} {{color2|{{dragon color dark}}|Unova}}
|-
! colspan="4" style="background: #{{dragon color dark}}; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#{{dragon color}};" | Episodes traveled with Ash
|-
| colspan="4" style="background: #{{dragon color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}; color:#{{dragon color dark}};" | {{color2|{{dragon color dark}}|BW002}}-{{color2|{{dragon color dark}}|BW141}}
|-
|
|-
! style="background: #{{dragon color dark}}; {{roundytl|5px}}; color:#{{dragon color}};" | Method
! style="background: #{{dragon color dark}}; color:#{{dragon color}};" | Pre-series
! style="background: #{{dragon color dark}};" | {{color2|{{dragon color}}|Unova}}
! style="background: #{{dragon color dark}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|{{dragon color}}|Johto}}
|- style="background: #{{dragon color light}}"
| {{color2|{{dragon color dark}}|Caught Pokémon|Caught}}
| {{MS|529|Iris's Drilbur}}
| {{MS|587|Iris's Emolga}} {{MS|149|Iris's Dragonite}}
| {{MS|443|Iris's Gible}}
|- style="background: #{{dragon color light}}"
| {{color2|{{dragon color dark}}|Evolution|Evolved}}
| {{MS|530|Iris's Excadrill}}
|
|
|-
| style="background: #{{dragon color light}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{color2|{{dragon color dark}}|Gift Pokémon|Given}}
! style="background: #{{dragon color light}};" | {{MS|610|Iris's Axew}}
| style="background: #{{dragon color light}};" |
| style="background: #{{dragon color light}}; {{roundybr|5px}}" |
|-
|}
{{-}}

===Cilan===
[[File:Cilan BW5.png|120px|thumb|right|{{an|Cilan}}]]
{{main|Cilan (anime)}}

Cilan, a [[Pokémon Connoisseur]] and one of the [[Gym Leader]]s of the [[Striaton City]] [[Striaton Gym|Gym]], travels with {{Ash}} and {{an|Iris}} in their journey through [[Unova]] and the [[Decolore Islands]] from ''[[BW006|Dreams by the Yard Full!]]'' until ''[[BW141|Best Wishes Until We Meet Again!]]''.

====Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{grass color}}; border: 5px solid #{{grass color}};" colspan=4 cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #{{grass color}};" colspan="3" | {{color2|{{grass color dark}}|Cilan (anime)|Cilan}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{grass color}}; text-align:left; color:#{{grass color dark}};" | Hometown: {{color2|{{grass color dark}}|Striaton City}}
! colspan="3" style="background: #{{grass color}}; text-align:right;" | {{color2|{{grass color dark}}|Region|First joined in}} {{color2|{{grass color dark}}|Unova}}
|-
! colspan="3" style="background: #{{grass color dark}}; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#{{grass color}};" | Episodes traveled with Ash
|-
| colspan="3" style="background: #{{grass color light}};{{roundybottom|5px}}; color:#{{grass color dark}};" | {{color2|{{grass color dark}}|BW006}}-{{color2|{{grass color dark}}|BW141}}
|-
|
|-
! style="background: #{{grass color dark}}; {{roundytl|5px}}; color:#{{grass color}};" | Method
! style="background: #{{grass color dark}}; color:#{{grass color}};" | Pre-series
! style="background: #{{grass color dark}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|{{grass color}}|Unova}}
|- style="background: #{{grass color light}};"
| {{color2|{{grass color dark}}|Caught Pokémon|Caught}}
|
| {{MS|557|Cilan's Dwebble}} {{MS|618|Cilan's Stunfisk}} {{MS|550B|Cilan's Basculin}}
|- style="background: #{{grass color light}};"
| {{color2|{{grass color dark}}|Evolution|Evolved}}
|
| {{MS|558|Cilan's Crustle}}
|- style="background: #{{grass color light}};"
| {{color2|{{grass color dark}}|Released Pokémon|Released}}
|
| {{MS|550B|Cilan's Basculin}}
|- style="background: #{{grass color light}};"
| style="background: #{{grass color light}}; {{roundybl|5px}}; color:#{{grass color dark}};" | Given
| style="background: #{{grass color light}};" | {{MS|511|Cilan's Pansage}}
| style="background: #{{grass color light}}; {{roundybr|5px}}" |
|}
{{-}}

==[[XY series]]==
===Clemont===
[[File:Clemont XY.png|thumb|right|170px|[[Clemont (anime)|Clemont]]]]
{{main|Clemont (anime)}}

Clemont is an inventor Ash met after being ejected out of the [[Lumiose City]] [[Lumiose Gym|Gym]]. His backpack, called the "Clemontic Gear", carries a variety of inventions and gadgets. He traveled with Ash from ''[[XY003|A Battle of Aerial Mobility!]]'' until ''[[XY062|The Future Is Now, Thanks to Determination!]]'', then rejoined the group in ''[[XY067|The Moment of Lumiose Truth!]]''.
====Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{electric color}}; border: 5px solid #{{electric color}};" colspan=4 cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #{{electric color}};" colspan="3" | {{color2|{{electric color dark}}|Clemont (anime)|Clemont}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{electric color}}; text-align:left; color:#{{electric color dark}};" | Hometown: {{color2|{{electric color dark}}|Lumiose City}}
! colspan="3" style="background: #{{electric color}}; text-align:right;" | {{color2|{{electric color dark}}|Region|First joined in}} {{color2|{{electric color dark}}|Kalos}}
|-
! colspan="3" style="background: #{{electric color dark}}; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#{{electric color}};" | Episodes traveled with Ash
|-
| colspan="3" style="background: #{{electric color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}; color:#{{electric color dark}};" | {{color2|{{electric color dark}}|XY003}}-{{color2|{{electric color dark}}|XY062}}, {{color2|{{electric color dark}}|XY067}}-Present
|-
|
|-
! style="background: #{{electric color dark}}; {{roundytl|5px}}; color:#{{electric color}};" | Method
! style="background: #{{electric color dark}}; color:#{{electric color}};" | Pre-series
! style="background: #{{electric color dark}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|{{electric color}}|Kalos}}
|-
| style="background: #{{electric color light}}; color:#{{electric color dark}};" | {{color2|{{electric color dark}}|Caught Pokémon|Caught}}
| style="background: #{{electric color light}};" | {{MS|659|Clemont's Bunnelby}}
| style="background: #{{electric color light}};" | {{MS|702|Clemont's Dedenne}} {{MS|404|Clemont's Luxio}}
|-
| style="background: #{{electric color light}}; color:#{{electric color dark}};" | {{color2|{{electric color dark}}|Evolution|Evolved}}
| style="background: #{{electric color light}};" | {{MS|695|Clemont's Heliolisk}}
| style="background: #{{electric color light}};" | {{MS|405|Clemont's Luxray}}
|-
| style="background: #{{electric color light}}; color:#{{electric color dark}};" | {{color2|{{electric color dark}}|Gift Pokémon|Given}}
| style="background: #{{electric color light}};" |
| style="background: #{{electric color light}};" | {{MS|650|Clemont's Chespin}}
|-
| style="background: #{{electric color light}}; {{roundybl|5px}}; color:#{{electric color dark}};" | Unknown
| style="background: #{{electric color light}};" | {{MS|081|Clemont (anime)#Magnemite}}{{MS|082|Clemont's Magneton}}{{MS|694|Clemont's Heliolisk}}
| style="background: #{{electric color light}}; {{roundybr|5px}}" |
|-
|}
{{-}}

===Bonnie===
[[File:Bonnie XY.png|100px|thumb|right|{{an|Bonnie}}]]
{{main|Bonnie (anime)}}

Bonnie is Clemont's little sister. She is a young and cheerful girl, who despite being too young to officially train Pokémon, holds a great interest in them. She is proud of her big brother's accomplishments, but is not above criticizing him. She started traveling with Ash in ''[[XY003|A Battle of Aerial Mobility!]]''.
====Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{fairy color}}; border: 5px solid #{{fairy color}};" colspan=3 cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #{{fairy color}};" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{fairy color dark}}|Bonnie (anime)|Bonnie}}
|-
! style="background: #{{fairy color}}; text-align:left; color:#{{fairy color dark}};" | Hometown: {{color2|{{fairy color dark}}|Lumiose City}}
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{fairy color}}; text-align:right;" | {{color2|{{fairy color dark}}|Region|First joined in}} {{color2|{{fairy color dark}}|Kalos}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{fairy color dark}}; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#{{fairy color}};" | Episodes traveled with Ash
|-
| colspan="2" style="background: #{{fairy color light}};{{roundybottom|5px}}; color:#{{fairy color dark}};" | {{color2|{{fairy color dark}}|XY003}}-{{color|{{fairy color dark}}|Present}}
|-
|
|-
! style="background: #{{fairy color dark}}; {{roundytl|5px}}; color:#{{fairy color}};" | Method
! style="background: #{{fairy color dark}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|{{fairy color}}|Kalos}}
|-
| style="background: #{{fairy color light}}; {{roundybl|5px}}; color:#{{fairy color dark}};" | Caring for
| style="background: #{{fairy color light}}; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{MS|702|Clemont's Dedenne}}{{MS|???|Squishy}}
|}
{{-}}

===Serena===
[[File:Serena XY2.png|125px|thumb|right|{{an|Serena}} in her second outfit]]
{{main|Serena (anime)}}

Serena is a beginning Pokémon Trainer from Kalos. She is a fashionable girl who met Ash once before when they were younger. While the daughter of a famous {{p|Rhyhorn}} racer, Serena eventually sets her goal to be a famous [[Pokémon Performer]]. She started traveling with Ash in ''[[XY007|Giving Chase at the Rhyhorn Race!]]''. While traveling with Ash, she cut her hair short and changed into her new outfit in ''[[XY060|A Showcase Debut!]]''

====Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{y color}}; border: 5px solid #{{y color}};" colspan=3 cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #{{y color}};" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{y color dark}}|Serena (anime)|Serena}}
|-
! style="background: #{{y color}}; text-align:left; color:#{{y color dark}};" | Hometown: {{color2|{{y color dark}}|Vaniville Town}}
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{y color}}; text-align:right;" | {{color2|{{y color dark}}|Region|First joined in}} {{color2|{{y color dark}}|Kalos}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{y color dark}}; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#{{y color}};" | Episodes traveled with Ash
|-
| colspan="2" style="background: #{{y color light}};{{roundybottom|5px}}; color:#{{y color dark}};" | {{color2|{{y color dark}}|XY007}}-{{color|{{y color dark}}|Present}}
|-
|
|-
! style="background: #{{y color dark}}; {{roundytl|5px}}; color:#{{y color}};" | Method
! style="background: #{{y color dark}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|{{y color}}|Kalos}}
|-
| style="background: #{{y color light}}; color:#{{y color dark}};" | {{color2|{{y color dark}}|Gift Pokémon|Given}}
| style="background: #{{y color light}};" | {{MS|653|Serena's Fennekin}}
|-
| style="background: #{{y color light}}; color:#{{y color dark}};" | {{color2|{{y color dark}}|Caught Pokémon|Caught}}
| style="background: #{{y color light}};" | {{MS|674|Serena's Pancham}}{{MS|133|Serena's Eevee}}
|-
| style="background: #{{y color light}}; {{roundybl|5px}}; color:#{{y color dark}};" | {{color2|{{y color dark}}|Evolution|Evolved}}
| style="background: #{{y color light}}; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{MS|654|Serena's Braixen}}{{MS|700|Serena's Sylveon}}
|}
{{-}}

==Temporary traveling companions==
===Todd===
[[File:Todd Snap.png|thumb|200px|{{Todd}}]]
{{main|Todd Snap}}
Todd Snap accompanied Ash, Misty, and Brock from ''[[EP055|Pokémon Paparazzi]]'' to ''[[EP057|The Breeding Center Secret]]''. He later meets up with Ash again in ''[[EP187|Moving Pictures]]'' during his journey through [[Johto]], trying to take a photograph of the legendary {{p|Articuno}}. They meet an elderly couple celebrating their 50th wedding anniversary, and Todd has the honor of taking their anniversary photo for them. Later on, in ''[[EP189|Freeze Frame]]'' Todd finally finds Articuno and manages to get a photograph of it. He then departs from the group once more.
 

{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{electric color}}; border: 5px solid #{{electric color}}" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{electric color}}" | {{color2|{{red color dark}}|Todd Snap|Todd}}
|-
! style="background: #{{electric color}}; text-align:left; color:#{{red color dark}};" | Hometown: Unknown
! style="background: #{{electric color}}; text-align:right;" | {{color2|{{red color dark}}|Region|First joined in}} {{color2|{{red color dark}}|Kanto}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{red color dark}}; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#{{electric color}};" |Episodes traveled with Ash
|-
| colspan="2" style="background: #{{electric color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}; color:#{{red color dark}};" | {{color2|{{red color dark}}|EP055}}-{{color2|{{red color dark}}|EP057}}, {{color2|{{red color dark}}|EP187}}-{{color2|{{red color dark}}|EP189}}
|}
{{-}}

===Ritchie===
[[File:Ritchie.png|thumb|200px|[[Ritchie]]]]
{{main|Ritchie}}
Ritchie accompanied Ash, Misty, and Brock from ''[[EP220|The Mystery is History]]'' to ''[[EP222|A Promise is a Promise]]'' while he was searching for a mysterious Pokémon that can be found in the [[Whirl Islands]], which turned out to be a {{p|Lugia}}.
 

====Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #39986A; border: 5px solid #39986A" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #39986A;" colspan="3" | {{color2|20593E|Ritchie}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="background: #39986A; text-align:left; color:#20593E;" | Hometown: {{color2|20593E|Frodomar City}} (dub only)
! colspan="3" style="background: #39986A; text-align:right;" | {{color2|20593E|Region|First joined in}} {{color2|20593E|Johto}}
|-
! colspan="3" style="background: #20593E; {{roundytop|5px}}" | {{color|39986A|Episodes traveled with Ash}}
|-
| colspan="3" style="background: #{{electric color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}; color:#20593E;" | {{color2|20593E|EP220}}-{{color2|20593E|EP222}}
|-
|
|-
! style="background: #20593E; {{roundytl|5px}}; color:#39986A;" | Method
! style="background: #20593E; color:#39986A;" | Pre-series
! style="background: #20593E; {{roundytr|5px}}; color:#39986A;" | Post-Kanto
|- style="background: #{{electric color light}}"
| {{color2|20593E|Evolution|Evolved}}
|
| {{MS|005|Zippo}}
|-
| style="background: #{{electric color light}}; {{roundybl|5px}}; color:#20593E;" | Unknown
| style="background: #{{electric color light}}" | {{MS|025|Sparky}} {{MS|004|Zippo}} {{MSP|012|Butterfree}}
| style="background: #{{electric color light}}; {{roundybr|5px}}"| {{MSP|247|Pupitar}} {{MSP|276|Taillow}}
|-
|}
{{-}}

===Professor Birch===
[[File:Birch anime.png|thumb|200px|[[Professor Birch]]]]
{{main|Professor Birch}}
Professor Birch accompanied Ash, Brock, May, and Max as they traveled through the forests of {{to|Dewford}} from ''[[AG027|A Three Team Scheme!]]'' until ''[[AG028|Seeing is Believing!]]''.
 

====Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{hoenn color}}; border: 5px solid #{{hoenn color}}" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #{{hoenn color}}" colspan="3" | {{color2|{{hoenn color dark}}|Professor Birch}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{hoenn color}}; text-align:left; color:#{{hoenn color dark}};" | Hometown: {{color2|{{hoenn color dark}}|Littleroot Town}}
! colspan="3" style="background: #{{hoenn color}}; text-align:right;" | {{color2|{{hoenn color dark}}|Region|First joined in}} {{color2|{{hoenn color dark}}|Hoenn}}
|-
! colspan="3" style="background: #{{hoenn color dark}}; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#{{hoenn color}};" | Episodes traveled with Ash
|-
| colspan="3" style="background: #{{hoenn color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}; color:#{{hoenn color dark}};" | {{color2|{{hoenn color dark}}|AG027}}-{{color2|{{hoenn color dark}}|AG028}}
|-
|
|-
! style="background: #{{hoenn color dark}}; {{roundytl|5px}}; color:#{{hoenn color}};" | Method
! style="background: #{{hoenn color dark}}; color:#{{hoenn color}};" | Pre-series
! style="background: #{{hoenn color dark}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|{{hoenn color}}|Hoenn}}
|- style="background: #{{hoenn color light}}; color:#{{hoenn color dark}};"
| Befriended
|
| {{MSP|261|Poochyena}}
|-
| style="background: #{{hoenn color light}}; {{roundybl|5px}}; color:#{{hoenn color dark}};" | Gives away
| style="background: #{{hoenn color light}}" | {{MSP|252|Treecko}} {{MSP|255|Torchic}} {{MSP|258|Mudkip}}
| style="background: #{{hoenn color light}}; {{roundybr|5px}}" |
|}
{{-}}

===Cheryl===
[[File:Cheryl anime.png|thumb|200px|[[Cheryl]]]]
{{main|Cheryl}}
Cheryl accompanied Ash, Brock, and Dawn through the [[Eterna Forest]] from ''[[DP030|Some Enchanted Sweetening!]]'' until ''[[DP032|An Angry Combeenation!]]''.
 

====Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{bug color}}; border: 5px solid #{{bug color}};" colspan=4 cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #{{bug color}};" colspan="3" | {{color2|{{bug color dark}}|Cheryl|Cheryl}}
|-
! colspan="1" style="background: #{{bug color}}; text-align:left; color:#{{bug color dark}};" | Hometown: {{color|{{bug color dark}}|Unknown}}
! colspan="3" style="background: #{{bug color}}; text-align:right;" | {{color2|{{bug color dark}}|Region|First joined in:}} {{color2|{{bug color dark}}|Sinnoh}}
|-
! colspan="3" style="background: #{{bug color dark}}; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#{{bug color}};" | Episodes traveled with Ash
|-
| colspan="3" style="background: #{{bug color light}};{{roundybottom|5px}}; color:#{{bug color dark}};" | {{color2|{{bug color dark}}|DP030}}-{{color2|{{bug color dark}}|DP032}}
|-
|
|-
! style="background: #{{bug color dark}}; {{roundytl|5px}}; color:#{{bug color}};" | Method
! style="background: #{{bug color dark}}; color:#{{bug color}};" | Pre-series
! style="background: #{{bug color dark}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|{{bug color}}|Sinnoh}}
|-
| style="background: #{{bug color light}}" | {{color2|{{bug color dark}}|Caught Pokémon|Caught}}
! style="background: #{{bug color light}}" |
! style="background: #{{bug color light}}" | {{MS|412|Cheryl's Burmy}}
|-
| style="background: #{{bug color light}}" | {{color2|{{bug color dark}}|Evolution|Evolved}}
! style="background: #{{bug color light}}" |
! style="background: #{{bug color light}}" | {{MS|414|Cheryl's Mothim}}
|-
| style="background: #{{bug color light}}; {{roundybl|5px}}; color:#{{bug color dark}};" | Unknown
! style="background: #{{bug color light}}" | {{MSP|113|Chansey}} {{MSP|413|Wormadam}} {{MSP|413G|Wormadam}} {{MSP|413S|Wormadam}}
! style="background: #{{bug color light}}; {{roundybr|5px}}" |
|}
{{-}}

===Barry===
[[File:Barry anime.png|thumb|250px|{{an|Barry}}]]
{{main|Barry (anime)}}
Barry accompanied Ash, Brock, and Dawn from ''[[DP101|Barry's Busting Out All Over!]]'' until ''[[DP103|Jumping Rocket Ship!]]'' while Ash was trying to earn the {{DL|Badge|Relic Badge}}. He then traveled with them to the [[Pokémon Ping Pong Tournament]] from ''[[DP122|Stopped in the Name of Love!]]'' until ''[[DP124|To Thine Own Pokémon Be True!]]''.

====Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; margin:auto; background: #E08040; border: 5px solid #E08040;" colspan=4 cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #E08040;" colspan="2"| {{color2|FFE683|Barry (anime)|Barry}}
|-
! colspan="1" style="background: #E08040; text-align:left; color:#FFE683;" | Hometown: {{color|FFE683|Twinleaf Town}}
! colspan="2" style="background: #E08040; text-align:right;" | {{color2|FFE683|Region|First joined in:}} {{color2|FFE683|Sinnoh}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="background: #629C20; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#FFE683;" | Episodes traveled with Ash
|-
| colspan="2" style="background: #FFE683;{{roundybottom|5px}}; color:#E08040;" | {{color2|E08040|DP101}}-{{color2|E08040|DP103}}, {{color2|E08040|DP122}}-{{color2|E08040|DP124}}
|-
|
|-
! style="background: #629C20; {{roundytl|5px}}; color:#FFE683;" | Method
! style="background: #629C20; {{roundytr|5px}}; color:#FFE683;" | Pre-series
|- style="background: #FFE683;"
| {{color2|E08040|Caught Pokémon|Caught}}
| {{MSP|214|Heracross}}
|-
| style="background: #FFE683; {{roundybl|5px}}; color:#E08040;" | Unknown
! style="background: #FFE683; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{MS|395|Barry's Empoleon}} {{MSP|398|Staraptor}} {{MSP|407|Roserade}} {{MSP|227|Skarmory}} {{MSP|106|Hitmonlee}}
|}
{{-}}

===Lyra===
[[File:Lyra anime.png|thumb|250px|{{an|Lyra}}]]
{{main|Lyra (anime)}}
Lyra met Ash, Dawn, and Brock during the [[Johto Festival]] in ''[[DP143|An Egg Scramble!]]''. She and [[Khoury]] accompanied them to [[Lilypad Town]] and left the group in ''[[DP147|Bagged then Tagged!]]'' when she returned to Johto.
 

====Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{SoulSilver color}}; border: 5px solid #{{SoulSilver color}}" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #{{SoulSilver color}}" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{SoulSilver color dark}}|Lyra (anime)|Lyra}}
|-
! colspan="1" style="background: #{{SoulSilver color}}; text-align:left; color:#{{SoulSilver color dark}};" | Hometown: {{color2|{{SoulSilver color dark}}|New Bark Town}}
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{SoulSilver color}}; text-align:right;" | {{color2|{{SoulSilver color dark}}|Region|First joined in}} {{color2|{{SoulSilver color dark}}|Sinnoh}}
|-
! colspan="3" style="background: #{{SoulSilver color dark}}; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#{{SoulSilver color}};" | Episodes traveled with Ash
|-
| colspan="3" style="background: #{{SoulSilver color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}; color:#{{SoulSilver color dark}};" | {{color2|{{SoulSilver color dark}}|DP143}}-{{color2|{{SoulSilver color dark}}|DP147}}
|-
|
|-
! style="background: #{{SoulSilver color dark}}; {{roundytl|5px}}; color:#{{SoulSilver color}};" | Method
! style="background: #{{SoulSilver color dark}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|{{SoulSilver color}}|Johto}}
|- style="background: #{{SoulSilver color light}}"
| {{color2|{{SoulSilver color dark}}|Gift Pokémon|Given}}
| {{MSP|152|Chikorita}}
|-
| style="background: #{{SoulSilver color light}}; {{roundybl|5px}}; color:#{{SoulSilver color dark}};" | Unknown
| style="background: #{{SoulSilver color light}}; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{MS|183|Lyra's Marill}} {{MSP|203|Girafarig}}
|-
|}
{{-}}

===Khoury===
[[File:Khoury.png|thumb|250px|[[Khoury]]]]
{{main|Khoury}}
Khoury met Ash, Dawn, and Brock during the [[Johto Festival]] when Lyra introduced them in ''[[DP143|An Egg Scramble!]]''. He and Lyra accompanied them to [[Lilypad Town]] and left the group in ''[[DP147|Bagged then Tagged!]]'' when he returned to Johto.
 

====Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{HeartGold color}}; border: 5px solid #{{HeartGold color}}" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #{{HeartGold color}}" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{HeartGold color dark}}|Khoury}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{HeartGold color}}; text-align:left; color:#{{HeartGold color dark}};" | Hometown: {{color2|{{HeartGold color dark}}|New Bark Town}}
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{HeartGold color}}; text-align:right;" | {{color2|{{HeartGold color dark}}|Region|First joined in}} {{color2|{{HeartGold color dark}}|Sinnoh}}
|-
! colspan="3" style="background: #{{HeartGold color dark}}; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#{{HeartGold color}};" | Episodes traveled with Ash
|-
| colspan="3" style="background: #{{HeartGold color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}; color:#{{HeartGold color dark}};" | {{color2|{{HeartGold color dark}}|DP143}}-{{color2|{{HeartGold color dark}}|DP147}}
|-
|
|-
! style="background: #{{HeartGold color dark}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color|{{HeartGold color}}|Method}}
! style="background: #{{HeartGold color dark}}" | {{color2|{{HeartGold color}}|Johto}}
! style="background: #{{HeartGold color dark}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|{{HeartGold color}}|Sinnoh}}
|- style="background: #{{HeartGold color light}}"
| {{color2|{{HeartGold color dark}}|Caught Pokémon|Caught}}
|
| {{MSP|443|Gible}}
|- style="background: #{{HeartGold color light}}"
| {{color2|{{HeartGold color dark}}|Evolution|Evolved}}
|
| {{MS|159|Khoury's Croconaw}}
|-
| style="background: #{{HeartGold color light}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{color2|{{HeartGold color dark}}|Gift Pokémon|Given}}
! style="background: #{{HeartGold color light}}" | {{MS|158|Khoury's Totodile}}
! style="background: #{{HeartGold color light}}; {{roundybr|5px}}" |
|-
|}
{{-}}

===Bianca===
[[File:Bianca anime.png|thumb|250px|{{an|Bianca}}]]
{{main|Bianca (anime)}}
Bianca first met Ash in ''[[BW013|Minccino Neat And Tidy]]'' where she gave him his Badge case from [[Professor Juniper]]. She later accompanies him, Iris, and Cilan for a short time on their way to [[Nimbasa City]]. However, upon hearing that Ash had three Badges, she was inspired to catch up to him and left to collect Badges on her own. Since then, Bianca has temporarily joined the group numerous times during their journey from ''[[BW024|Emolga the Irresistible!]]'' until ''[[BW025|Emolga and the New Volt Switch!]]'', then temporarily rejoined them from ''[[BW062|Crisis at Chargestone Cave!]]'' until ''[[BW063|Evolution Exchange Excitement!]]''.
 

====Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #F6B875; border: 5px solid #F6B875;" colspan=4 cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #F6B875;" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{white color dark}}|Bianca (anime)|Bianca}}
|-
! colspan="1" style="background: #F6B875; text-align:left; color:#{{white color dark}};" | Hometown: Unknown
! colspan="2" style="background: #F6B875; text-align:right;" | {{color2|{{white color dark}}|Region|First joined in:}} {{color2|{{white color dark}}|Unova}}
|-
! colspan="3" style="background: #{{white color dark}}; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#{{white color}};" | Episodes traveled with Ash
|-
| colspan="3" style="background: #{{white color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}; color:#{{white color dark}};" | {{color2|{{white color dark}}|BW024}}-{{color2|{{white color dark}}|BW025}}, {{color2|{{white color dark}}|BW062}}-{{color2|{{white color dark}}|BW063}}
|-
|
|-
! style="background: #{{white color dark}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color|{{white color}}|Method}}
! style="background: #{{white color dark}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|{{white color}}|Unova}}
|- style="background: #{{white color light}}"
|{{color2|{{white color dark}}|Caught Pokémon|Caught}}
| {{MS|572|Bianca's Minccino}} {{MSP|616|Shelmet}}
|- style="background: #{{white color light}}"
| {{color2|{{white color dark}}|Evolution|Evolved}}
| {{MS|499|Bianca's Pignite}} {{MSP|589|Escavalier}} {{MS|500|Bianca's Emboar}}
|- style="background: #{{white color light}}"
| {{color2|{{white color dark}}|Gift Pokémon|Given}}
| {{MS|498|Bianca's Tepig}}
|- style="background: #{{white color light}}"
| {{color2|{{white color dark}}|Trade|Traded}}
| {{MSP|616|Shelmet}}
|-
| style="background: #{{white color light}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{color2|{{white color dark}}|Trade}}
| style="background: #{{white color light}}; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{MSP|588|Karrablast}}
|}
{{-}}

===Luke===
[[File:Luke.png|thumb|250px|[[Luke]]]]
{{main|Luke}}
Luke first met Ash, Iris, and Cilan in his hometown where they helped him produce a movie. At the end of ''[[BW038|Movie Time! Zorua in "The Legend of the Pokémon Knight"!]]'', He later accompanies them to [[Nimbasa Town]] where he stays with them during the [[Club Battle]] tournament before heading back home at the end of ''[[BW042|The Club Battle Finale: A Heroes Outcome!]]''.
 

====Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{ground color}}; border: 5px solid #{{ground color}}" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #{{ground color}}" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{dark color dark}}|Luke}}
|-
! colspan="1" style="background: #{{ground color}}; text-align:left; color:#{{dark color dark}};" | Hometown: Unknown
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{ground color}}; text-align:right;" | {{color2|{{dark color dark}}|Region|First joined in}} {{color2|{{dark color dark}}|Unova}}
|-
! colspan="3" style="background: #{{dark color dark}}; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#{{ground color}};" | Episodes traveled with Ash
|-
| colspan="3" style="background: #{{dark color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}; color:#{{dark color dark}};" | {{color2|{{dark color dark}}|BW038}}-{{color2|{{dark color dark}}|BW042}}
|-
|
|-
! style="background: #{{dark color dark}}; {{roundytl|5px}}; color:#{{ground color}};" | Method
! style="background: #{{dark color dark}}; {{roundytr|5px}};" | {{color2|{{ground color}}|Unova}}
|- style="background: #{{dark color light}}"
| {{color2|{{dark color dark}}|Caught Pokémon|Caught}}
| {{MS|570|Luke's Zorua}}
|-
| style="background: #{{dark color light}}; {{roundybl|5px}}; color:#{{dark color dark}};" | Unknown
| style="background: #{{dark color light}}; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{MSP|622|Golett}} {{MSP|542|Leavanny}} {{MSP|636|Larvesta}}
|-
|}
{{-}}

===Meowth===
[[File:Meowth Team Rocket.png|thumb|250px|{{MTR}}]]
{{main|Meowth (Team Rocket)}}
After reportedly being "disbanded" from Team Rocket in ''[[BW043|Meowth's Scrafty Tactics!]]'', Meowth was found unconscious by [[Ash's Tepig]] and [[Iris's Axew]]. The group nursed him back to health and invited him to accompany them so as to protect him from Trainers wanting to capture the only talking {{p|Meowth}} in Unova. He used his ability to speak to humans and Pokémon many times during their travels together.

He later revealed their travels to be a facade to gain their trust for a mission, and reunited with [[Jessie]] and [[James]] in ''[[BW047|Crisis from the Underground Up!]]''.

He would later team up with Ash and his friends for real in ''[[XY019|A Conspiracy to Conquer!]]'' after losing the rest of Team Rocket to the control of the mysterious [[Officer Jenny|Madame X]] and her {{p|Malamar}}, though the team was initially distrusting of him until seeing Madame X in action for themselves. Ash and Meowth were eventually the only ones not [[Hypnosis (move)|hypnotized]] by Malamar, thanks to Meowth using [[Fury Swipes (move)|Fury Swipes]] on both their faces. After the Malamar was revealed to be the true mastermind and was soon after defeated, Meowth returned to the newly freed Team Rocket.
 

{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{normal color}}; border: 5px solid #{{normal color}}" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{normal color}}" | {{color2|{{normal color dark}}|Meowth (Team Rocket)|Meowth}}
|-
! style="background: #{{normal color}}; text-align:left; color:#{{normal color dark}};" | Hometown: {{color2|{{normal color dark}}|Hollywood}}
! style="background: #{{normal color}}; text-align:right;" | {{color2|{{normal color dark}}|Region|First joined in}} {{color2|{{normal color dark}}|Unova}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{normal color dark}}; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#{{normal color}};" | Episodes traveled with Ash
|-
| colspan="2" style="background: #{{normal color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}; color:#{{normal color dark}};" | {{color2|{{normal color dark}}|BW043}}-{{color2|{{normal color dark}}|BW047}}, {{color2|{{normal color dark}}|XY019}}
|}

===Stephan===
[[File:Stephan.png|thumb|250px|[[Stephan]]]]
{{main|Stephan}}
Stephan decided to travel with Ash and co. in ''[[BW069|Climbing the Tower of Success!]]'' after taking part in a competition with them. He left the group after winning the [[Clubsplosion]] tournament in ''[[BW073|Commanding the Clubsplosion Crown!]]''.

====Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #D12B21; border: 5px solid #D12B21" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #D12B21;" colspan="2" | {{color2|96120B|Stephan}}
|-
! colspan="1" style="background: #D12B21; text-align:left; color:#96120B;" | Hometown: Unknown
! colspan="2" style="background: #D12B21; text-align:right;" | {{color2|96120B|Region|First joined in}} {{color2|96120B|Unova}}
|-
! colspan="3" style="background: #96120B; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#D12B21;" |Episodes traveled with Ash
|-
| colspan="3" style="background: #DB7A51; {{roundybottom|5px}}; color:#96120B;" | {{color2|96120B|BW069}}-{{color2|96120B|BW073}}
|-
|
|-
! style="background: #96120B; {{roundytl|5px}}; color:#D12B21;" | Method
! style="background: #96120B; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|D12B21|Unova}}
|- style="background: #DB7A51"
| {{color2|96120B|Evolution|Evolved}}
| {{MSP|523|Zebstrika}}
|-
| style="background: #DB7A51; {{roundybl|5px}}; color:#96120B;" | Unknown
| style="background: #DB7A51; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{MSP|522|Blitzle}} {{MS|539|Stephan's Sawk}} {{MSP|510|Liepard}}
|-
|}

===Meloetta===
[[File:Meloetta {{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time:i}} mod 2}}|0=Aria|1=Pirouette}} Forme anime.png|thumb|250px|{{an|Meloetta}}]]
{{main|Meloetta (anime)}}
Meloetta decided to travel with Ash and his friends from ''[[BW086|Piplup, Pansage, and a Meeting of the Times!]]'' until ''[[BW097|Unova's Survival Crisis!]]''.
 

{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; margin:auto; background: #{{normal color}}; border: 5px solid #{{normal color}}" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #{{normal color}}" | {{color2|{{{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time:i}} mod 2}}|0=Psychic|1=Fighting}} color dark}}|Meloetta (anime)|Meloetta}}
|-
! style="background: #{{normal color}}; text-align:left;" | {{color|{{{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time:i}} mod 2}}|0=Psychic|1=Fighting}} color dark}}|Hometown: Unknown}}
! style="background: #{{normal color}}; text-align:right;" | {{color2|{{{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time:i}} mod 2}}|0=Psychic|1=Fighting}} color dark}}|Region|First joined in}} {{color2|{{{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time:i}} mod 2}}|0=Psychic|1=Fighting}} color dark}}|Unova}}
|-
! colspan="3" style="background: #{{{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time:i}} mod 2}}|0=Psychic|1=Fighting}} color dark}}; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#{{normal color}};" | Episodes traveled with Ash
|-
| colspan="3" style="background: #{{normal color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{color2|{{{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time:i}} mod 2}}|0=Psychic|1=Fighting}} color dark}}|BW086}}{{color|{{{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time:i}} mod 2}}|0=Psychic|1=Fighting}} color dark}}|-}}{{color2|{{{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time:i}} mod 2}}|0=Psychic|1=Fighting}} color dark}}|BW097}}
|}

===Cameron===
[[File:Cameron Unova.png|thumb|250px|{{un|Cameron}}]]
{{main|Cameron (Unova)|Cameron}}
After Dawn left the group after the Junior Tournament, Cameron decided to join Ash, Iris, and Cilan. He left the group after he won his eighth and final Badge against [[Marlon]] from ''[[BW093|Goodbye, Junior Cup - Hello Adventure!]]'' until ''[[BW094|The Road to Humilau!]]''.

====Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #E08B14; border: 5px solid #E08B14" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #E08B14;" colspan="2" | {{color2|CF2604|Cameron (Unova)|Cameron}}
|-
! colspan="1" style="background: #E08B14; text-align:left; color:#CF2604;" | Hometown: Unknown
! colspan="2" style="background: #E08B14; text-align:right;" | {{color2|CF2604|Region|First joined in}} {{color2|CF2604|Unova}}
|-
! colspan="3" style="background: #CF2604; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#E08B14;" | {{color|E08B14|Episodes traveled with Ash}}
|-
| colspan="3" style="background: #F2B257; {{roundybottom|5px}}; color:#CF2604;" | {{color2|CF2604|BW093}}-{{color2|CF2604|BW094}}
|-
|
|-
! style="background: #CF2604; {{roundytl|5px}}; color:#E08B14;" | Method
! style="background: #CF2604; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|E08B14|Unova}}
|- style="background: #F2B257"
| {{color2|CF2604|Evolution|Evolved}}
| {{MS|448|Cameron's Lucario}}
|-
| style="background: #F2B257; {{roundybl|5px}}; color:#CF2604;" | Unknown
| style="background: #F2B257; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{MSP|447|Riolu}}{{MSP|598|Ferrothorn}}{{MSP|503|Samurott}}{{MSP|635|Hydreigon}}{{MSP|581|Swanna}}{{MSP|505|Watchog}}
|-
|}

===N===
[[File:N anime.png|thumb|250px|{{an|N}}]]
{{main|N (anime)}}
After meeting with Ash and the others again in ''[[BW114|Saving Braviary!]]'', he agreed to travel with them to [[Driftveil City]]. After an encounter with [[Team Plasma]], N was forced to leave the group in ''[[BW118|Secrets From Out of the Fog!]]''.

{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{bulba color}}; border: 5px solid #{{bulba color}}" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #{{Bulba color}};" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{Bulba color dark}}|N (anime)|N}}
|-
! colspan="1" style="background: #{{Bulba color}}; text-align:left; color:#{{Bulba color dark}};" | Hometown: Unknown
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{Bulba color}}; text-align:right;" | {{color2|{{Bulba color dark}}|Region|First joined in}} {{color2|{{Bulba color dark}}|Unova}}
|-
! colspan="3" style="background: #{{Bulba color dark}}; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#{{Bulba color light}};" | Episodes traveled with Ash
|-
| colspan="3" style="background: #{{Bulba color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}; color:#{{Bulba color dark}};" | {{color2|{{Bulba color dark}}|BW114}}-{{color2|{{Bulba color dark}}|BW118}}
|-
|}

===Alexa===
[[File:Alexa anime.png|thumb|250px|[[Alexa]]]]
{{main|Alexa}}
Alexa, a journalist from [[Kalos]], met Ash and friends in ''[[BW134|The Journalist from Another Region!]]'' on [[Harvest Island]]. She traveled with the group through the [[Decolore Islands]], and joined Ash on his journey to [[Kalos]], but officially split with Ash in ''[[XY001|Kalos: Where Dreams and Adventures Begin!]]'' because her sister [[Viola]] was away from [[Santalune Gym]].
 

====Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{bug color}}; border: 5px solid #{{bug color}}" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #{{bug color}}" colspan="3" | {{color2|{{bug color dark}}|Alexa}}
|-
! style="background: #{{bug color}}; text-align:left; color:#{{bug color dark}};" | Hometown: {{color|{{bug color dark}}|Unknown}}
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{bug color}}; text-align:right;" | {{color2|{{bug color dark}}|Region|First joined in}} {{color2|{{bug color dark}}|Decolore Islands}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{bug color dark}}; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#{{bug color}};" | Episodes traveled with Ash
|-
| colspan="2" style="background: #{{bug color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}; color:#{{bug color dark}};" | {{color2|{{bug color dark}}|BW134}}-{{color2|{{bug color dark}}|XY001}}
|-
|
|-
! style="background: #{{bug color dark}}; {{roundytl|5px}}; color:#{{bug color}};" | Method
! style="background: #{{bug color dark}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color|{{bug color}}|Pre-series}}
|- style="background: #{{bug color light}}; color:#{{bug color dark}};"
| {{color2|{{bug color dark}}|Caught Pokémon|Caught}}
| {{MS|673|Alexa's Gogoat}}
|- style="background: #{{bug color light}}; color:#{{bug color dark}};"
| style="{{roundybl|5px}}" | Unknown
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}" | {{MSP|694|Helioptile}}{{MSP|715|Noivern}}
|}
{{-}}

===Korrina===
[[File:Korrina anime.png|thumb|250px|[[Korrina]]]]
{{main|Korrina}}
Korrina, the [[Shalour City]] [[Gym Leader]], met Ash, Serena, Clemont, and Bonnie in ''[[XY030|Mega Revelations!]]'' on their way to her hometown. The group accompanied her as she traveled to [[Geosenge Town]] to understand and master the [[Mega Evolution]] of her trusted partner, {{TP|Korrina|Lucario}}. She left the group at [[Pomace Mountain]] in ''[[XY034|The Bonds of Mega Evolution!]]''.
 

====Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{fighting color}}; border: 5px solid #{{fighting color}}" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #{{fighting color}}" colspan="3" | {{color2|{{fighting color dark}}|Korrina}}
|-
! style="background: #{{fighting color}}; text-align:left; color:#{{fighting color dark}};" | Hometown: {{color2|{{fighting color dark}}|Shalour City}}
! colspan="3" style="background: #{{fighting color}}; text-align:right;" | {{color2|{{fighting color dark}}|Region|First joined in}} {{color2|{{fighting color dark}}|Kalos}}
|-
! colspan="3" style="background: #{{fighting color dark}}; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#{{fighting color}};" | Episodes traveled with Ash
|-
| colspan="3" style="background: #{{fighting color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}; color:#{{fighting color dark}};" | {{color2|{{fighting color dark}}|XY030}}-{{color2|{{fighting color dark}}|XY034}}
|-
|
|-
! style="background: #{{fighting color dark}}; {{roundytl|5px}}; color:#{{fighting color}};" | Method
! style="background: #{{fighting color dark}};" | {{color|{{fighting color}}|Pre-series}}
! style="background: #{{fighting color dark}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|{{fighting color}}|Kalos}}
|- style="background: #{{fighting color light}}; color:#{{fighting color dark}};"
| Unknown
| {{MSP|447|Riolu}}{{MSP|619|Mienfoo}}{{MSP|067|Machoke}}
|
|- style="background: #{{fighting color light}}; color:#{{fighting color dark}};"
| {{color2|{{fighting color dark}}|Evolution|Evolved}}
| {{MS|448|Korrina's Lucario}}
|
|- style="background: #{{fighting color light}}; color:#{{fighting color dark}};"
| style="{{roundybl|5px}}" | {{color2|{{fighting color dark}}|Mega Evolution|Mega Evolved}}
|
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}" | {{MS|448M|Korrina's Lucario}}
|}
{{-}}

===Sawyer===
[[File:Sawyer.png|thumb|250px|[[Sawyer]]]]
{{main|Sawyer}}
Sawyer met Ash, Serena and Bonnie in ''[[XY073|A Fashionable Battle!]]'' in the [[Laverre Gym]], where he was asking for a Gym Battle with [[Valerie]]. He recognized Clemont as the [[Lumiose City]] [[Gym Leader]], as he had had a Gym Battle with him in ''[[XY064|Battling with Elegance and a Big Smile!]]''. He left the group in ''[[XY075|Rivals: Today and Tomorrow!]]''.

In ''[[XY119|A Full-Strength Battle Surprise!]]'', after battling Ash and winning, Sawyer decided to accompany him and his friends to [[Snowbelle City]]. In [[XY120|the following episode]], he watched Ash battle [[Wulfric]] before leaving to train for the [[Lumiose Conference]].
 

====Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{locationcolor/med|forest}}; border: 5px solid #{{locationcolor/med|forest}}" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #{{locationcolor/med|forest}}" colspan="3" | {{color2|{{bulba color light}}|Sawyer}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{locationcolor/med|forest}}; text-align:left; color:#{{bulba color light}};" |Hometown: Unknown
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{locationcolor/med|forest}}; text-align:right;" | {{color2|{{bulba color light}}|Region|First joined in}} {{color2|{{bulba color light}}|Kalos}}
|-
! colspan="3" style="background: #{{locationcolor/dark|forest}}; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#{{bulba color light}};" | Episodes traveled with Ash
|-
| colspan="3" style="background: #{{bulba color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}; color:#{{locationcolor/dark|forest}};" | {{color2|{{locationcolor/dark|forest}}|XY073}}-{{color2|{{locationcolor/dark|forest}}|XY075}}, {{color2|{{locationcolor/dark|forest}}|XY119}}-{{color2|{{locationcolor/dark|forest}}|XY120}}
|-
|
|-
! style="background: #{{locationcolor/dark|forest}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color|{{bulba color light}}|Method}}
! style="background: #{{locationcolor/dark|forest}};" | {{color|{{bulba color light}}|Pre-series}}
! style="background: #{{locationcolor/dark|forest}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|{{bulba color light}}|Kalos}}
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| {{color2|{{locationcolor/dark|forest}}|Evolution|Evolved}}
|
| {{MS|253|Sawyer's Grovyle}}{{MSP|372|Shelgon}}{{MS|254|Sawyer's Sceptile}}{{MSP|680|Doublade}}{{MSP|681|Aegislash}}{{MSP|373|Salamence}}
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| {{color2|{{locationcolor/dark|forest}}|Gift Pokémon|Given}}
| {{MS|252|Sawyer's Treecko}}
|
|- style="background: #{{bulba color light}}"
| {{color2|{{locationcolor/dark|forest}}|Mega Evolution|Mega Evolved}}
|
| {{MS|254M|Sawyer's Sceptile}}
|-
| style="background: #{{bulba color light}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{color|{{locationcolor/dark|forest}}|Unknown}}
! style="background: #{{bulba color light}}" |
! style="background: #{{bulba color light}}; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{MSP|371|Bagon}}{{MSP|685|Slurpuff}}{{MSP|679|Honedge}}{{MSP|693|Clawitzer}}{{MSP|289|Slaking}}
|-
|}
{{-}}

===Squishy===
[[File:Squishy.png|thumb|250px|[[Squishy]]]]
{{main|Squishy}}
Squishy first met Ash and the group in ''[[XY094|From A to Z!]]''. After saving it from [[Team Flare]], the group took it with them with Bonnie taking care of it.

{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{dragon color}}; border: 5px solid #{{dragon color}}" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #{{dragon color}};" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{ground color}}|Squishy}}
|-
! colspan="1" style="background: #{{dragon color}}; text-align:left; color:#{{ground color}};" | Hometown: {{color2|{{ground color}}|Terminus Cave}}
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{dragon color}}; text-align:right;" | {{color2|{{ground color}}|Region|First joined in}} {{color2|{{ground color}}|Kalos}}
|-
! colspan="3" style="background: #{{dragon color dark}}; {{roundytop|5px}}; color:#{{ground color light}};" | Episodes traveled with Ash
|-
| colspan="3" style="background: #{{ground color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}; color:#{{dragon color dark}};" | {{color2|{{dragon color dark}}|XY094}}-{{color|{{dragon color dark}}|Present}}
|-
|}

==Trivia==
* Every [[starter Pokémon]] has been owned by either Ash or one of his friends.
* Alexa is the only human companion, main or temporary to accompany Ash through the end of one series to the start of the next.
* In the {{series|Best Wishes}}, Ash had the most temporary companions.
* {{an|Serena}} is the only one of Ash's friends that Ash has met prior [[EP001|to the beginning of the series.]]
* {{an|Clemont}} is the only one of Ash's friends that has left the group in the middle of a journey.

==See also==
* [[Twerp]] 
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