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<div>'''Battle Bingo''' (Japanese: '''バトルＤＥビンゴ''' ''Battle DE Bingo'') is a game played using Bingo Cards at [[Realgam Tower]], in [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]]. In exchange for playing the game, players can win [[Poké Coupon]]s.<br />
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==Gameplay==<br />
[[File:Battle Bingo.png|thumb|right|200px|A Bingo card with one row cleared.]]<br />
It costs 500 {{PDollar}} to look at the cards. Should the player back out before playing, they'll be refunded.<br />
===Bingo===<br />
At the start of the game, players have one {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} for which the bingo card is named that has two EP or Entry Points. Players also have two empty [[Master Ball]]s and a fourth slot with no ball or Pokémon in it.<br />
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The player can choose any panel out of the sixteen to begin at. From that panel and any other cleared panels the player has in the game, only movement to adjacent panels is allowed. When the panel is gray with a question mark on it, there is an [[item]] underneath. When it is colored and has a [[type]] name written on it, there is a Pokémon of that type and possibly a second type underneath and by moving to that panel, will have to {{pkmn|battle}} it. The player is to send in a Pokémon to this battle, and that is to have at least 1 Entry Point (EP). When it does, it can either take on the enemy Pokémon and attempt to defeat it, or the player can throw a Master Ball to {{pkmn2|caught|capture}} the enemy Pokémon. The Pokémon will then join the player's team automatically and have two EP.<br />
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By clearing lines of four, the player will move up levels on the payout for Poké Coupons. The Bingo card is cleared when all ten lines are completed.<br />
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If a card that has been cleared is replayed, its panels are shuffled randomly.<br />
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===Rewards===<br />
If a card is quit before clearing all of its lines, the player earns [[Poké Coupons]] based on the number of lines cleared. If the player has cleared all of the lines, a bonus is added for remaining EP and Master Balls. The first time clearing a card, the player is also given an item or items in reward.<br />
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Upon completing all 10 cards, not including the Bonsly Card, the player is rewarded with 5,000 [[Poké Coupons]]<br />
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===Unlocking===<br />
There are four standard difficulties of Bingo cards: Novice, Regular, Expert, and Extra. At first, only Novice cards are available; only when all cards in the current difficulty are cleared will the next difficulty be unlocked. A separate class of card, Special, is unlocked by using the [[Bonsly Card]] before the receptionist.<br />
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If the player clears all 10 of the cards in the standard difficulties, the 1-Panel Mode is unlocked. In this mode, the player's next choice must be in an adjacent panel to the one selected previously. If the player cannot make a move in this mode, the game ends. This mode also awards more Poké Coupons than the Standard Mode, however.<br />
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==Bingo cards==<br />
===Novice===<br />
Prize for clearing:<br><br />
200-250 Poké Coupons<br><br />
2 [[Ether]]s (First time only)<br />
<br />
====Dragonair Card====<br />
{{bingocard<br />
|title=Dragonair<br />
|desc=A simple Card for learning the rules.<br />
|startnum=Box XD 148<br />
|startpokemon=Dragonair<br />
|starttype1=Dragon<br />
|startmove=Outrage<br />
|startmovetype=Dragon<br />
|spot1-1={{bingocard/entry|004|Charmander|Flamethrower|Fire}}<br />
|spot2-1={{bingocard/bonus|Master Ball}}<br />
|spot3-1={{bingocard/entry|258|Mudkip|Surf|Water}}<br />
|spot4-1={{bingocard/entry|060|Poliwag|Surf|Water}}<br />
|spot1-2={{bingocard/entry|252|Treecko|Giga Drain|Grass}}<br />
|spot2-2={{bingocard/entry|255|Torchic|Flamethrower|Fire}}<br />
|spot3-2={{bingocard/entry|315|Roselia|Giga Drain|Grass}}<br />
|spot4-2={{bingocard/entry|152|Chikorita|Giga Drain|Grass}}<br />
|spot1-3={{bingocard/entry|155|Cyndaquil|Flamethrower|Fire}}<br />
|spot2-3={{bingocard/entry|007|Squirtle|Surf|Water}}<br />
|spot3-3={{bingocard/bonus|+2EP}}<br />
|spot4-3={{bingocard/entry|158|Totodile|Surf|Water}}<br />
|spot1-4={{bingocard/bonus|+1EP}}<br />
|spot2-4={{bingocard/entry|001|Bulbasaur|Giga Drain|Grass}}<br />
|spot3-4={{bingocard/entry|223|Remoraid|Surf|Water}}<br />
|spot4-4={{bingocard/entry|037|Vulpix|Flamethrower|Fire}}}}<br />
<br />
====3-Type Card====<br />
{{bingocard<br />
|title=3-Type<br />
|desc=Three Pokémon types are featured.<br />
|startnum=Box XD 033<br />
|startpokemon=Nidorino<br />
|starttype1=Poison<br />
|startmove=Sludge Bomb<br />
|startmovetype=Poison<br />
|spot1-1={{bingocard/entry|114|Tangela|Mega Drain|Grass}}<br />
|spot2-1={{bingocard/entry|336|Seviper|Sludge Bomb|Poison}}<br />
|spot3-1={{bingocard/entry|191|Sunkern|Giga Drain|Grass}}<br />
|spot4-1={{bingocard/entry|231|Phanpy|Earthquake|Ground}}<br />
|spot1-2={{bingocard/entry|095|Onix|Earthquake|Ground}}<br />
|spot2-2={{bingocard/bonus|Master Ball}}<br />
|spot3-2={{bingocard/entry|152|Chikorita|Giga Drain|Grass}}<br />
|spot4-2={{bingocard/entry|316|Gulpin|Sludge Bomb|Poison}}<br />
|spot1-3={{bingocard/entry|252|Treecko|Giga Drain|Grass}}<br />
|spot2-3={{bingocard/entry|088|Grimer|Sludge Bomb|Poison}}<br />
|spot3-3={{bingocard/entry|023|Ekans|Sludge Bomb|Poison}}<br />
|spot4-3={{bingocard/bonus|+1EP}}<br />
|spot1-4={{bingocard/entry|273|Seedot|Giga Drain|Grass}}<br />
|spot2-4={{bingocard/bonus|+2EP}}<br />
|spot3-4={{bingocard/entry|076|Golem|Earthquake|Ground}}<br />
|spot4-4={{bingocard/entry|027|Sandshrew|Earthquake|Ground}}}}<br />
<br />
====4-Type Card====<br />
{{bingocard<br />
|title=4-Type<br />
|desc=Four Pokémon types are featured.<br />
|startnum=Box XD 270<br />
|startpokemon=Lotad<br />
|starttype1=Water<br />
|starttype2=Grass<br />
|startmove=Giga Drain<br />
|startmovetype=Grass<br />
|spot1-1={{bingocard/bonus|+1EP}}<br />
|spot2-1={{bingocard/entry|083|Farfetch'd|Aerial Ace|Flying}}<br />
|spot3-1={{bingocard/entry|104|Cubone|Focus Punch|Ground}}<br />
|spot4-1={{bingocard/bonus|+2EP}}<br />
|spot1-2={{bingocard/entry|027|Sandshrew|Earthquake|Ground}}<br />
|spot2-2={{bingocard/entry|081|Magnemite|Spark|Electric}}<br />
|spot3-2={{bingocard/entry|231|Phanpy|Earthquake|Ground}}<br />
|spot4-2={{bingocard/entry|125|Electabuzz|Shock Wave|Electric}}<br />
|spot1-3={{bingocard/entry|021|Spearow|Aerial Ace|Flying}}<br />
|spot2-3={{bingocard/bonus|Master Ball}}<br />
|spot3-3={{bingocard/entry|084|Doduo|Aerial Ace|Flying}}<br />
|spot4-3={{bingocard/entry|273|Seedot|Giga Drain|Grass}}<br />
|spot1-4={{bingocard/entry|331|Cacnea|Needle Arm|Grass}}<br />
|spot2-4={{bingocard/entry|100|Voltorb|Thunderbolt|Electric}}<br />
|spot3-4={{bingocard/entry|102|Exeggcute|Giga Drain|Grass}}<br />
|spot4-4={{bingocard/entry|016|Pidgey|Wing Attack|Flying}}}}<br />
<br />
===Regular===<br />
Prize for clearing:<br><br />
400-500 Poké Coupons<br><br />
[[Max Ether]] (First time only)<br />
<br />
====Charmander Card====<br />
{{bingocard<br />
|title=Charmander<br />
|desc=A Card for practicing type matchups.<br />
|startnum=Box XD 004<br />
|startpokemon=Charmander<br />
|starttype1=Fire<br />
|startmove=Flamethrower<br />
|startmovetype=Fire<br />
|spot1-1={{bingocard/entry|231|Phanpy|Earthquake|Ground}}<br />
|spot2-1={{bingocard/entry|255|Torchic|Flamethrower|Fire}}<br />
|spot3-1={{bingocard/bonus|+1EP}}<br />
|spot4-1={{bingocard/entry|016|Pidgey|Aerial Ace|Flying}}<br />
|spot1-2={{bingocard/entry|361|Snorunt|Ice Beam|Ice}}<br />
|spot2-2={{bingocard/entry|276|Taillow|Aerial Ace|Flying}}<br />
|spot3-2={{bingocard/entry|050|Diglett|Earthquake|Ground}}<br />
|spot4-2={{bingocard/entry|056|Mankey|Brick Break|Fighting}}<br />
|spot1-3={{bingocard/bonus|+2EP}}<br />
|spot2-3={{bingocard/entry|066|Machop|Brick Break|Fighting}}<br />
|spot3-3={{bingocard/entry|021|Spearow|Drill Peck|Flying}}<br />
|spot4-3={{bingocard/entry|058|Growlithe|Flamethrower|Fire}}<br />
|spot1-4={{bingocard/entry|104|Cubone|Earthquake|Ground}}<br />
|spot2-4={{bingocard/bonus|Master Ball}}<br />
|spot3-4={{bingocard/entry|363|Spheal|Ice Beam|Ice}}<br />
|spot4-4={{bingocard/entry|296|Makuhita|Brick Break|Fighting}}}}<br />
<br />
====Pikachu Card====<br />
{{bingocard<br />
|title=Pikachu<br />
|desc=A Card for advanced type matchups.<br />
|startnum=Box XD 025<br />
|startpokemon=Pikachu<br />
|starttype1=Electric<br />
|startmove=Thunderbolt<br />
|startmovetype=Electric<br />
|spot1-1={{bingocard/entry|050|Diglett|Earthquake|Ground}}<br />
|spot2-1={{bingocard/entry|114|Tangela|Mega Drain|Grass}}<br />
|spot3-1={{bingocard/entry|299|Nosepass|Rock Throw|Rock}}<br />
|spot4-1={{bingocard/entry|325|Spoink|Psychic|Psychic}}<br />
|spot1-2={{bingocard/bonus|+1EP}}<br />
|spot2-2={{bingocard/entry|088|Grimer|Sludge Bomb|Poison}}<br />
|spot3-2={{bingocard/entry|017|Pidgeotto|Wing Attack|Flying}}<br />
|spot4-2={{bingocard/entry|056|Mankey|Brick Break|Fighting}}<br />
|spot1-3={{bingocard/entry|037|Vulpix|Flamethrower|Fire}}<br />
|spot2-3={{bingocard/bonus|Master Ball}}<br />
|spot3-3={{bingocard/entry|060|Poliwag|Surf|Water}}<br />
|spot4-3={{bingocard/entry|261|Poochyena|Crunch|Dark}}<br />
|spot1-4={{bingocard/entry|012|Butterfree|Silver Wind|Bug}}<br />
|spot2-4={{bingocard/entry|361|Snorunt|Ice Beam|Ice}}<br />
|spot3-4={{bingocard/entry|353|Shuppet|Shadow Ball|Ghost}}<br />
|spot4-4={{bingocard/bonus|+2EP}}}}<br />
<br />
====Rock vs Flying Card====<br />
{{bingocard<br />
|title=Rock vs Flying<br />
|desc=Sudowoodo's time to shine?<br />
|startnum=Box XD 185<br />
|startpokemon=Sudowoodo<br />
|starttype1=Rock<br />
|startmove=Rock Throw<br />
|startmovetype=Rock<br />
|spot1-1={{bingocard/entry|022|Fearow|Drill Peck|Flying}}<br />
|spot2-1={{bingocard/bonus|+2EP}}<br />
|spot3-1={{bingocard/entry|226|Mantine|Surf|Flying}}<br />
|spot4-1={{bingocard/entry|006|Charizard|Flamethrower|Flying}}<br />
|spot1-2={{bingocard/entry|123|Scyther|Silver Wind|Flying}}<br />
|spot2-2={{bingocard/entry|227|Skarmory|Steel Wing|Flying}}<br />
|spot3-2={{bingocard/bonus|Master Ball}}<br />
|spot4-2={{bingocard/entry|178|Xatu|Psychic|Flying}}<br />
|spot1-3={{bingocard/bonus|+1EP}}<br />
|spot2-3={{bingocard/entry|169|Crobat|Sludge Bomb|Flying}}<br />
|spot3-3={{bingocard/entry|207|Gligar|Earthquake|Flying}}<br />
|spot4-3={{bingocard/entry|198|Murkrow|Faint Attack|Flying}}<br />
|spot1-4={{bingocard/entry|334|Altaria|DragonBreath|Flying}}<br />
|spot2-4={{bingocard/entry|142|Aerodactyl|Hyper Beam|Flying}}<br />
|spot3-4={{bingocard/entry|225|Delibird|Ice Beam|Flying}}<br />
|spot4-4={{bingocard/entry|357|Tropius|Magical Leaf|Flying}}}}<br />
<br />
===Expert===<br />
Prize for clearing:<br><br />
800-1000 Poké Coupons<br><br />
[[Elixir]] (First time only)<br />
<br />
====SOS Magikarp Card====<br />
{{bingocard<br />
|title=SOS Magikarp<br />
|desc=Can Magikarp win with Splash?<br />
|startnum=Box XD 129<br />
|startpokemon=Magikarp<br />
|starttype1=Water<br />
|startmove=Splash<br />
|startmovetype=Normal<br />
|spot1-1={{bingocard/entry|094|Gengar|Psychic|Poison}}<br />
|spot2-1={{bingocard/entry|310|Manectric|Thunderbolt|Electric}}<br />
|spot3-1={{bingocard/entry|195|Quagsire|Earthquake|Ground}}<br />
|spot4-1={{bingocard/entry|332|Cacturne|Needle Arm|Grass}}<br />
|spot1-2={{bingocard/bonus|+2EP}}<br />
|spot2-2={{bingocard/entry|105|Marowak|Rock Tomb|Ground}}<br />
|spot3-2={{bingocard/entry|171|Lanturn|Surf|Water}}<br />
|spot4-2={{bingocard/bonus|Master Ball}}<br />
|spot1-3={{bingocard/entry|101|Electrode|Thunderbolt|Electric}}<br />
|spot2-3={{bingocard/entry|024|Arbok|Sludge Bomb|Poison}}<br />
|spot3-3={{bingocard/entry|076|Golem|Rock Throw|Ground}}<br />
|spot4-3={{bingocard/entry|082|Magneton|Thunderbolt|Electric}}<br />
|spot1-4={{bingocard/entry|071|Victreebel|Razor Leaf|Grass}}<br />
|spot2-4={{bingocard/entry|073|Tentacruel|Water Pulse|Water}}<br />
|spot3-4={{bingocard/bonus|+1EP}}<br />
|spot4-4={{bingocard/entry|110|Weezing|Sludge Bomb|Poison}}}}<br />
<br />
====Waterproof Card====<br />
{{bingocard<br />
|title=Waterproof<br />
|desc=What lurks beneath the water?<br />
|startnum=Box XD 055<br />
|startpokemon=Golduck<br />
|starttype1=Water<br />
|startmove=Brick Break<br />
|startmovetype=Fighting<br />
|spot1-1={{bingocard/entry|342|Crawdaunt|Crunch|Water}}<br />
|spot2-1={{bingocard/entry|260|Swampert|Earthquake|Water}}<br />
|spot3-1={{bingocard/entry|279|Pelipper|Aerial Ace|Water}}<br />
|spot4-1={{bingocard/entry|283|Surskit|Shadow Ball|Water}}<br />
|spot1-2={{bingocard/entry|073|Tentacruel|Sludge Bomb|Water}}<br />
|spot2-2={{bingocard/entry|230|Kingdra|DragonBreath|Water}}<br />
|spot3-2={{bingocard/entry|224|Octillery|Flamethrower|Water}}<br />
|spot4-2={{bingocard/entry|171|Lanturn|Shock Wave|Water}}<br />
|spot1-3={{bingocard/entry|121|Starmie|Psychic|Water}}<br />
|spot2-3={{bingocard/entry|369|Relicanth|Rock Slide|Water}}<br />
|spot3-3={{bingocard/entry|131|Lapras|Ice Beam|Water}}<br />
|spot4-3={{bingocard/bonus|+1EP}}<br />
|spot1-4={{bingocard/bonus|Master Ball}}<br />
|spot2-4={{bingocard/entry|272|Ludicolo|Mega Drain|Water}}<br />
|spot3-4={{bingocard/bonus|+2EP}}<br />
|spot4-4={{bingocard/entry|062|Poliwrath|Brick Break|Water}}}}<br />
<br />
====Counter Card====<br />
{{bingocard<br />
|title=Counter<br />
|desc=Battle Bingo's toughest Card.<br />
|startnum=Box XD 123<br />
|startpokemon=Scyther<br />
|starttype1=Bug<br />
|starttype2=Flying<br />
|startmove=Aerial Ace<br />
|startmovetype=Flying<br />
|spot1-1={{bingocard/entry|045|Vileplume|Petal Dance|Grass}}<br />
|spot2-1={{bingocard/entry|195|Quagsire|Earthquake|Ground}}<br />
|spot3-1={{bingocard/entry|362|Glalie|Ice Beam|Ice}}<br />
|spot4-1={{bingocard/entry|101|Electrode|Thunderbolt|Electric}}<br />
|spot1-2={{bingocard/entry|171|Lanturn|Surf|Water}}<br />
|spot2-2={{bingocard/bonus|Master Ball}}<br />
|spot3-2={{bingocard/bonus|+2EP}}<br />
|spot4-2={{bingocard/entry|297|Hariyama|Rock Slide|Fighting}}<br />
|spot1-3={{bingocard/entry|352|Kecleon|Strength|Normal}}<br />
|spot2-3={{bingocard/entry|130|Gyarados|Flamethrower|Water}}<br />
|spot3-3={{bingocard/entry|272|Ludicolo|Surf|Grass}}<br />
|spot4-3={{bingocard/entry|006|Charizard|Flamethrower|Fire}}<br />
|spot1-4={{bingocard/entry|026|Raichu|Thunderbolt|Electric}}<br />
|spot2-4={{bingocard/entry|295|Exploud|Hyper Voice|Normal}}<br />
|spot3-4={{bingocard/entry|076|Golem|Rock Slide|Ground}}<br />
|spot4-4={{bingocard/bonus|+1EP}}}}<br />
<br />
===Extra===<br />
Prize for clearing:<br><br />
2000-3300 Poké Coupons<br><br />
[[Max Elixir]] (First time only)<br />
<br />
====Psychic Card====<br />
{{bingocard<br />
|title=Psychic<br />
|desc=Houndoom's chance for glory?<br />
|startnum=Box XD 229<br />
|startpokemon=Houndoom<br />
|starttype1=Dark<br />
|starttype2=Fire<br />
|startmove=Crunch<br />
|startmovetype=Dark<br />
|spot1-1={{bingocard/entry|308|Medicham|Hi Jump Kick|Psychic}}<br />
|spot2-1={{bingocard/entry|358|Chimecho|Shadow Ball|Psychic}}<br />
|spot3-1={{bingocard/bonus|Master Ball}}<br />
|spot4-1={{bingocard/entry|124|Jynx|Ice Beam|Psychic}}<br />
|spot1-2={{bingocard/entry|103|Exeggutor|Giga Drain|Psychic}}<br />
|spot2-2={{bingocard/entry|338|Solrock|Flamethrower|Psychic}}<br />
|spot3-2={{bingocard/entry|203|Girafarig|Thunderbolt|Psychic}}<br />
|spot4-2={{bingocard/bonus|+1EP}}<br />
|spot1-3={{bingocard/entry|080|Slowbro|Surf|Psychic}}<br />
|spot2-3={{bingocard/entry|326|Grumpig|Psychic|Psychic}}<br />
|spot3-3={{bingocard/entry|344|Claydol|Earthquake|Psychic}}<br />
|spot4-3={{bingocard/entry|178|Xatu|Drill Peck|Psychic}}<br />
|spot1-4={{bingocard/entry|376|Metagross|Psychic|Psychic}}<br />
|spot2-4={{bingocard/bonus|+2EP}}<br />
|spot3-4={{bingocard/entry|337|Lunatone|Rock Slide|Psychic}}<br />
|spot4-4={{bingocard/entry|199|Slowking|Brick Break|Psychic}}}}<br />
<br />
===Special===<br />
Prize for clearing:<br><br />
400-500 Poké Coupons<br><br />
[[Max Revive]] and [[Bonsly Photo]] (First time only)<br />
<br />
====Bonsly Card====<br />
{{bingocard<br />
|title=Bonsly<br />
|desc=Bonsly makes its battle debut!<br />
|startnum=Box XD 438<br />
|startpokemon=Bonsly<br />
|starttype1=Rock<br />
|startmove=Rock Slide<br />
|startmovetype=Rock<br />
|spot1-1={{bingocard/bonus|+1EP}}<br />
|spot2-1={{bingocard/entry|325|Spoink|Psybeam|Psychic}}<br />
|spot3-1={{bingocard/entry|165|Ledyba|Silver Wind|Bug}}<br />
|spot4-1={{bingocard/bonus|Master Ball}}<br />
|spot1-2={{bingocard/entry|063|Abra|Fire Punch|Psychic}}<br />
|spot2-2={{bingocard/entry|276|Taillow|Aerial Ace|Flying}}<br />
|spot3-2={{bingocard/entry|281|Kirlia|Psychic|Psychic}}<br />
|spot4-2={{bingocard/entry|074|Geodude|Counter|Rock}}<br />
|spot1-3={{bingocard/entry|056|Mankey|Karate Chop|Fighting}}<br />
|spot2-3={{bingocard/entry|292|Shedinja|Silver Wind|Bug}}<br />
|spot3-3={{bingocard/bonus|+2EP}}<br />
|spot4-3={{bingocard/entry|066|Machop|Karate Chop|Fighting}}<br />
|spot1-4={{bingocard/entry|283|Surskit|Shadow Ball|Bug}}<br />
|spot2-4={{bingocard/entry|296|Makuhita|Vital Throw|Fighting}}<br />
|spot3-4={{bingocard/entry|304|Aron|Rock Slide|Rock}}<br />
|spot4-4={{bingocard/entry|246|Larvitar|Rock Slide|Rock}}}}<br />
<br />
==Trivia==<br />
* In some Battle Bingo games, an oddity occurs where the [[gender]] of each Pokémon may differ between the battle scenarios and the Bingo Card. This may happen to some Pokémon but not others in the same game. It is unclear why this occurs.<br />
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==In other languages==<br />
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|de=Kampf-Bingo<br />
|it=Pokébingo<br />
|es=Bingo de Combates}}<br />
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[[Category:Pokémon XD]]<br />
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[[de:Kampf-Bingo]]<br />
[[fr:Poké Bingo]]<br />
[[ja:バトルDEビンゴ]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Realgam_Tower&diff=3566036Realgam Tower2022-09-05T18:10:03Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* Battle Bingo rewards */ Added Poké Coupon reward for clearing all non-Bonsly Bingo Cards</p>
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<div>{{incomplete|2=Missing layout images from Colosseum}}<br />
{{Infobox location<br />
|image=Realgam_Tower.png<br />
|image_size=300px<br />
|type=building<br />
|location_name=Realgam Tower<br />
|japanese_name=ラルガタワー / 工事現場<br />
|translated_name=Ralga Tower / Construction Site<br />
|other_info=Construction Lot<br />
|location=Center of the desert<br />
|region=Orre<br />
|mapdesc=The construction site for an immense tower, which will have a Colosseum on the top floor.{{sup/ss|Colo}}{{tt|*|As Construction Lot, before the tower's completion}} <br>An immense tower that was finally completed as Cipher's base. It has a Colosseum on top.{{sup/ss|Colo}}{{tt|*|During the story}}<br>An immense tower that was finally completed. It is said to have a suspended Colosseum.{{sup/ss|Colo}}{{tt|*|During the post-game}}<br>An immense, members-only tower that is jam-packed with entertainment.{{sup/ss|XD}}<br />
|generation={{gen|III}}<br />
|mapsize=300px<br />
}}<br />
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The '''Realgam Tower''' (Japanese: '''ラルガタワー''' ''Ralga Tower'') is a tower that houses the [[Realgam Colosseum]], located in the south-central area of the desert region [[Orre]]. Prior to its opening in [[Pokémon Colosseum]], it is marked on the map as '''Construction Lot''' (Japanese: '''工事現場''' ''Construction Site''). <br />
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In Pokémon Colosseum, the tower works as [[Cipher]]'s headquarters, meant to house violent Colosseum battles with [[Shadow Pokémon]]. The tower's entrance consists of multiple domes, which can be accessed by riding on moving platforms through long glass tunnels. The {{player}} has to [[rematch]] the four {{tc|Cipher Admin}}s in order to obtain the four ID Badges required to unlock the door leading to the tower lobby. Two doors connected to the lobby respectively lead to a casino and a dining area with a bar and setup for a live band. From the lobby, the player can then access the top floor of the tower, which provides access to the Colosseum above, where the last set of battles during the Pokémon Colosseum main story takes place.<br />
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In [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]], Realgam Tower is no longer in Cipher's control. In addition to the Colosseum, which now runs proper Colosseum battles, the dining area has been turned into a gaming facility for [[Battle Sims]], while the casino now hosts [[Battle Bingo]]. Doing well in these activities award the player with [[Poké Coupon]]s. The amount of domes and tunnels before the lobby has been dramatically reduced, with two of them now housing a [[Poké Mart]] and a [[Pokémon Center]], respectively. The top floor of the tower is also no longer accessible, with the elevator in the lobby now providing a direct access to the Colosseum.<br />
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In the five years between Pokémon Colosseum and Pokémon XD, Realgam Tower has replaced [[Phenac Stadium]] as the preferred Colosseum for [[Phenac City]]'s citizens, causing the latter to be closed down.<br />
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==Shops==<br />
===Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness===<br />
{{shop|Poké Mart}}<br />
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Hyper Potion|1,200}}|{{shopitem|Full Heal|600}}}}<br />
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Revive|1,500}}|{{shopitem|TM10|3,000|PD||TM Normal|Hidden Power}}}}<br />
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|TM14|5,500|PD||TM Ice|Blizzard}}|{{shopitem|TM15|7,500|PD||TM Normal|Hyper Beam}}}}<br />
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|TM16|3,000|PD||TM Psychic|Light Screen}}|{{shopitem|TM17|3,000|PD||TM Normal|Protect}}}}<br />
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|TM20|3,000|PD||TM Normal|Safeguard}}|{{shopitem|TM25|5,500|PD||TM Electric|Thunder}}}}<br />
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|TM33|3,000|PD||TM Psychic|Reflect}}|{{shopitem|TM38|5,500|PD||TM Fire|Fire Blast}}}}<br />
{{shopfooter|multiple=yes}}<br />
{{shop|[[Battle CD]] Shop}}<br />
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Battle CD 02|1,000|5=TM Normal}}|{{shopitem|Battle CD 03|1,000|5=TM Normal}}}}<br />
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Battle CD 04|1,000|5=TM Normal}}|{{shopitem|Battle CD 09|1,000|5=TM Normal|note={{tt|*|After clearing Battle CDs 02, 03, and 04}}}}}}<br />
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Battle CD 13|1,000|5=TM Normal|note={{tt|*|After clearing Battle CDs 02, 03, and 04}}}}|{{shopitem|Battle CD 17|1,000|5=TM Normal|note={{tt|*|After clearing Battle CDs 02, 03, and 04}}}}}}<br />
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Battle CD 25|1,000|5=TM Normal|note={{tt|*|After clearing Battle CDs 09, 13, and 17}}}}|{{shopitem|Battle CD 26|1,000|5=TM Normal|note={{tt|*|After clearing Battle CDs 09, 13, and 17}}}}}}<br />
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Battle CD 30|1,000|5=TM Normal|note={{tt|*|After clearing Battle CDs 09, 13, and 17}}}}}}<br />
{{shopfooter}}<br />
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==Items==<br />
===Construction Lot===<br />
{{itlisth|building}}<br />
{{Itemlist|None|sprite=Gear|size=40|Upper right corner, after it gets stolen in [[Pyrite Town]]|Colo=yes|display={{i|Gear}}}}<br />
{{itlistfoot|building}}<br />
<br />
===Realgam Tower===<br />
{{itlisth|building}}<br />
{{Itemlist|None|Reward for defeating [[Miror B.]]|Colo=yes|display=[[Red ID Badge]]}}<br />
{{Itemlist|None|Reward for defeating [[Dakim]]|Colo=yes|display=[[Grn ID Badge]]}}<br />
{{Itemlist|None|Reward for defeating [[Venus]]|Colo=yes|display=[[Blu ID Badge]]}}<br />
{{Itemlist|None|Reward for defeating [[Ein]]|Colo=yes|display=[[Ylw ID Badge]]}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Protein|On the right side of the courtyard|XD=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Carbos|On the right side of the Junction Dome|XD=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Ultra Ball|On the left side of the lobby|XD=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|TM Dark|Reward for clearing the [[Realgam Colosseum]] Round 1 for the first time|XD=yes|display={{TM|49|Snatch}}}}<br />
{{Itemlist|TM Grass|Reward for clearing the Realgam Colosseum Round 2 for the first time|XD=yes|display={{TM|19|Giga Drain}}}}<br />
{{Itemlist|TM Steel|Reward for clearing the Realgam Colosseum Round 3 for the first time|XD=yes|display={{TM|23|Iron Tail}}}}<br />
{{Itemlist|TM Grass|Reward for clearing the Realgam Colosseum Round 4 for the first time|XD=yes|display={{TM|22|SolarBeam}}}}<br />
{{itlistfoot|building}}<br />
<br />
====Battle Bingo rewards====<br />
{{itlisth|building}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Ether|<br />
* Reward for clearing the {{p|Dragonair}} Card for the first time (×2)<br />
* Reward for clearing the 3-Type Card for the first time (×2)<br />
* Reward for clearing the 4-Type Card for the first time (×2)|XD=yes|display=[[Ether]] ×6}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Max Ether|<br />
* Reward for clearing the {{p|Charmander}} Card for the first time<br />
* Reward for clearing the {{p|Pikachu}} Card for the first time<br />
* Reward for clearing the {{t|Rock}} vs {{t|Flying}} Card for the first time|XD=yes|display=[[Max Ether]] ×3}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Elixir|<br />
* Reward for clearing the SOS {{p|Magikarp}} Card for the first time<br />
* Reward for clearing the Waterproof Card for the first time<br />
* Reward for clearing the Counter Card for the first time|XD=yes|display=[[Elixir]] ×3}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Max Elixir|Reward for clearing the {{t|Psychic}} Card for the first time|XD=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|None|Reward for clearing all 10 Battle Bingo Cards (does not include {{p|Bonsly}} Card)|XD=yes|display=5,000 [[Poké Coupon]]s}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Max Revive|Reward for clearing the {{p|Bonsly}} Card for the first time (requires [[Bonsly Card]])|XD=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|None|sprite=438MS6|Reward for clearing the Bonsly Card for the first time (requires [[Bonsly Card]])|XD=yes|display=[[Bonsly Photo]]}}<br />
{{itlistfoot|building}}<br />
<br />
====Battle Sim rewards====<br />
{| width="75%" class="expandable"<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|<br />
{{itlisth|building}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Super Potion|<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 01-10|Battle CD 01}} for the first time<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 01-10|Battle CD 02}} for the first time<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 01-10|Battle CD 08}} for the first time|XD=yes|display=[[Super Potion]] ×3}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Great Ball|<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 01-10|Battle CD 03}} for the first time<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 01-10|Battle CD 07}} for the first time|XD=yes|display=[[Great Ball]] ×2}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Antidote|Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 01-10|Battle CD 04}} for the first time|XD=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Paralyze Heal|Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 01-10|Battle CD 05}} for the first time|XD=yes|display=[[Paralyze Heal|Parlyz Heal]]}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Ice Heal|Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 01-10|Battle CD 06}} for the first time|XD=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Full Heal|<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 01-10|Battle CD 09}} for the first time<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 01-10|Battle CD 10}} for the first time<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 11-20|Battle CD 11}} for the first time<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 11-20|Battle CD 16}} for the first time|XD=yes|display=[[Full Heal]] ×4}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Hyper Potion|<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 11-20|Battle CD 12}} for the first time<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 11-20|Battle CD 14}} for the first time|XD=yes|display=[[Hyper Potion]] ×2}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Ultra Ball|<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 11-20|Battle CD 13}} for the first time<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 21-30|Battle CD 26}} for the first time<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 21-30|Battle CD 30}} for the first time|XD=yes|display=[[Ultra Ball]] ×3}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Revive|<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 11-20|Battle CD 15}} for the first time<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 31-40|Battle CD 32}} for the first time|XD=yes|display=[[Revive]] ×2}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Energy Root|Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 11-20|Battle CD 17}} for the first time|XD=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Guard Spec.|Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 11-20|Battle CD 18}} for the first time|XD=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Burn Heal|Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 11-20|Battle CD 19}} for the first time|XD=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Awakening|Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 11-20|Battle CD 20}} for the first time|XD=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|TM Fighting|Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 21-30|Battle CD 21}} for the first time|XD=yes|display={{TM|01|Focus Punch}}}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Rare Candy|<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 21-30|Battle CD 22}} for the first time<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 21-30|Battle CD 40}} for the first time<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 41-50|Battle CD 41}} for the first time|XD=yes|display=[[Rare Candy]] ×3}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Mental Herb|Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 21-30|Battle CD 23}} for the first time|XD=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Lum Berry|Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 21-30|Battle CD 24}} for the first time|XD=yes|display=[[Lum Berry]] ×5}}<br />
{{Itemlist|White Herb|Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 21-30|Battle CD 25}} for the first time|XD=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Timer Ball|<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 21-30|Battle CD 27}} for the first time<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 21-30|Battle CD 28}} for the first time|XD=yes|display=[[Timer Ball]] ×2}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Elixir|Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 21-30|Battle CD 29}} for the first time|XD=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Full Restore|<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 31-40|Battle CD 31}} for the first time<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 41-50|Battle CD 42}} for the first time<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 41-50|Battle CD 43}} for the first time|XD=yes|display=[[Full Restore]] ×3}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Nugget|<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 31-40|Battle CD 33}} for the first time<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 31-40|Battle CD 34}} for the first time|XD=yes|display=[[Nugget]] ×2}}<br />
{{Itemlist|TM Normal|Reward for clearing Battle CD 33 for the first time|XD=yes|display={{DL|Battle CDs 31-40|Battle CD 34}}}}<br />
{{Itemlist|X Accuracy|Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 31-40|Battle CD 35}} for the first time|XD=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|PP Up|<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 31-40|Battle CD 36}} for the first time<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 31-40|Battle CD 37}} for the first time|XD=yes|display=[[PP Up]] ×2}}<br />
{{Itemlist|TM Normal|Reward for clearing Battle CD 36 for the first time|XD=yes|display={{DL|Battle CDs 31-40|Battle CD 37}}}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Max Ether|<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 31-40|Battle CD 38}} for the first time<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 31-40|Battle CD 39}} for the first time|XD=yes|display=[[Max Ether]] ×2}}<br />
{{Itemlist|TM Normal|Reward for clearing Battle CD 38 for the first time|XD=yes|display={{DL|Battle CDs 31-40|Battle CD 39}}}}<br />
{{Itemlist|TM Normal|Reward for clearing Battle CD 40 for the first time|XD=yes|display={{DL|Battle CDs 41-50|Battle CD 41}}}}<br />
{{Itemlist|TM Normal|Reward for clearing Battle CD 42 for the first time|XD=yes|display={{DL|Battle CDs 41-50|Battle CD 43}}}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Salac Berry|<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 41-50|Battle CD 44}} for the first time<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 41-50|Battle CD 45}} for the first time|XD=yes|display=[[Salac Berry]] ×2}}<br />
{{Itemlist|TM Normal|Reward for clearing Battle CD 44 for the first time|XD=yes|display={{DL|Battle CDs 41-50|Battle CD 45}}}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Sacred Ash|Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 41-50|Battle CD 46}} for the first time|XD=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Max Revive|<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 41-50|Battle CD 47}} for the first time<br />
* Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 41-50|Battle CD 48}} for the first time|XD=yes|display=[[Max Revive]] ×2}}<br />
{{Itemlist|TM Normal|Reward for clearing Battle CD 47 for the first time|XD=yes|display={{DL|Battle CDs 41-50|Battle CD 48}}}}<br />
{{Itemlist|TM Fire|Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 41-50|Battle CD 49}} for the first time|XD=yes|display={{TM|11|Sunny Day}}}}<br />
{{Itemlist|TM Water|Reward for clearing {{DL|Battle CDs 41-50|Battle CD 50}} for the first time|XD=yes|display={{TM|18|Rain Dance}}}}<br />
{{Itemlist|None|Reward for clearing all 50 Battle CDs|XD=yes|display=15,000 [[Poké Coupon]]s}}<br />
{{itlistfoot|building}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Trainers==<br />
===Pokémon Colosseum===<br />
====Entrance====<br />
If a {{tc|Cipher Admin}}'s [[Shadow Pokémon]] wasn't [[Snagging|snagged]] during the first battle with them, it will replace their final Pokémon here.<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{cool color}}<br />
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}<br />
|bordercolor={{cool color dark}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Miror B.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize={{Pdollar}}4,300<br />
|class=Cipher Admin<br />
|name={{color2|000|Miror B.}}<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Realgam Tower<br />
|pokemon=5}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=272<br />
|pokemon=Ludicolo<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=44<br />
|gender=female<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Grass<br />
|ability=Swift Swim<br />
|move1=Waterfall|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Giga Drain|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Ice Beam|move3type=Ice<br />
|move4=Rain Dance|move4type=Water}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=272<br />
|pokemon=Ludicolo<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=45<br />
|gender=male<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Grass<br />
|ability=Rain Dish<br />
|move1=Dive|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Leech Seed|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Giga Drain|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Rain Dance|move4type=Water}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=294<br />
|pokemon=Loudred<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|gender=male<br />
|level=46<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Soundproof<br />
|move1=Take Down|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Earthquake|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Shadow Ball|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Extrasensory|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{cool color}}}}<br />
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=055<br />
|pokemon=Golduck<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=45<br />
|gender=female<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|ability=Damp<br />
|move1=Surf|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Psychic|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Ice Beam|move3type=Ice<br />
|move4=Brick Break|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=348<br />
|pokemon=Armaldo<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|gender=male<br />
|level=43<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Bug<br />
|ability=Battle Armor<br />
|move1=Aerial Ace|move1type=Flying<br />
|move2=Rock Slide|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=Slash|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Fury Cutter|move4type=Bug}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{tough color}}<br />
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}<br />
|bordercolor={{tough color dark}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Dakim.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize={{pdollar}}4,600<br />
|class=Cipher Admin<br />
|name={{color2|000|Dakim}}<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Realgam Tower<br />
|pokemon=5}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=344<br />
|pokemon=Claydol<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|level=46<br />
|type1=Ground|type2=Psychic<br />
|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Earthquake|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Sunny Day|move3type=Fire<br />
|move4=SolarBeam|move4type=Grass}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=205<br />
|pokemon=Forretress<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=45<br />
|gender=male<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Steel<br />
|ability=Sturdy<br />
|move1=Protect|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Earthquake|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Explosion|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Double-Edge|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=330<br />
|pokemon=Flygon<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|gender=female<br />
|level=46<br />
|type1=Ground|type2=Dragon<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Flamethrower|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Earthquake|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Sunny Day|move3type=Fire<br />
|move4=SolarBeam|move4type=Grass}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{tough color}}}}<br />
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=340<br />
|pokemon=Whiscash<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|gender=female<br />
|level=46<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Ground<br />
|ability=Oblivious<br />
|move1=Protect|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Earthquake|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Waterfall|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Ice Beam|move4type=Ice}}<br />
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=229<br />
|pokemon=Houndoom<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|gender=male<br />
|level=47<br />
|type1=Dark|type2=Fire<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Protect|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Fire Blast|move2type=Fire<br />
|move3=Sunny Day|move3type=Fire<br />
|move4=SolarBeam|move4type=Grass}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{beauty color}}<br />
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}<br />
|bordercolor={{beauty color dark}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Venus.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize={{Pdollar}}4,800<br />
|class=Cipher Admin<br />
|name={{color2|000|Venus}}<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Realgam Tower<br />
|pokemon=5}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=182<br />
|pokemon=Bellossom<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=47<br />
|gender=female<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|ability=Chlorophyll<br />
|move1=Attract|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Stun Spore|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Sludge Bomb|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Giga Drain|move4type=Grass}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=200<br />
|pokemon=Misdreavus<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=47<br />
|gender=male<br />
|type1=Ghost<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Attract|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Confuse Ray|move2type=Ghost<br />
|move3=Psychic|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Taunt|move4type=Dark}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=026<br />
|pokemon=Raichu<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=48<br />
|gender=male<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Thunder Wave|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Attract|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Sweet Kiss|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Thunderbolt|move4type=Electric}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{beauty color}}}}<br />
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=040<br />
|pokemon=Wigglytuff<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=48<br />
|gender=female<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Cute Charm<br />
|move1=Attract|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Body Slam|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Sweet Kiss|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Flamethrower|move4type=Fire}}<br />
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=350<br />
|pokemon=Milotic<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=48<br />
|gender=female<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|ability=Marvel Scale<br />
|move1=Surf|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Blizzard|move2type=Ice<br />
|move3=Attract|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Confuse Ray|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{smart color}}<br />
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}<br />
|bordercolor={{smart color dark}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Ein.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize={{Pdollar}}5,000<br />
|class=Cipher Admin<br />
|name={{color2|000|Ein}}<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Realgam Tower<br />
|pokemon=5}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=169<br />
|pokemon=Crobat<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=48<br />
|gender=female<br />
|type1=Poison|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Inner Focus<br />
|move1=Protect|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Toxic|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Fly|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Bite|move4type=Dark}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=279<br />
|pokemon=Pelipper<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=49<br />
|gender=female<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Keen Eye<br />
|move1=Rain Dance|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Toxic|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Fly|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Surf|move4type=Water}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=112<br />
|pokemon=Rhydon<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=50<br />
|gender=male<br />
|type1=Ground|type2=Rock<br />
|ability=Lightningrod<br />
|move1=Dig|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Rock Slide|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=Protect|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Toxic|move4type=Poison}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{smart color}}}}<br />
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=121<br />
|pokemon=Starmie<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=49<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Natural Cure<br />
|move1=Thunder|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Psychic|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Rain Dance|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Hydro Pump|move4type=Water}}<br />
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=310<br />
|pokemon=Manectric<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=50<br />
|gender=male<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Lightningrod<br />
|move1=Thunder|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Toxic|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
{{-}}<br />
<br />
{{Trainerheader|building}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|Colo Cipher Peon m.png{{!}}110px|Cipher Peon|Bopen|1,600|3|088|Grimer|M|39|None|269|Dustox|F|38|None|336|Seviper|M|40|game=colo|36=バレル|37=Burrell}}<br />
{{Trainerdiv|building}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|Colo Cipher Peon m.png{{!}}110px|Cipher Peon|Arton|1,800|3|shadow=1|225|Delibird|B|45|NeverMeltIce|221|Piloswine|F|42|None|362|Glalie|M|42|None|game=colo|36=ザイル|37=Zairu}}<br />
{{Trainerdiv|building}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|Colo Cipher Peon f.png{{!}}90px|Cipher Peon|Baila|1,800|3|shadow=1|192|Sunflora|B|45|None|189|Jumpluff|F|42|None|044|Gloom|M|41|None|game=colo|36=ジニー|37=Ginny}}<br />
{{Trainerdiv|building|After defeating all four Admins}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|Colo Cipher Peon m.png{{!}}110px|Cipher Peon|Dioge|1,800|3|shadow=3|284|Masquerain|M|42|None|168|Ariados|F|41|None|214|Heracross|B|45|None|game=colo|36=ポトン|37=Poton}}<br />
{{Trainerfooter|building|Colo}}<br />
<br />
====Lobby====<br />
{{Trainerheader|building}}<br />
{{Trainerdiv|building|Main room}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|Colo Bandana Guy.png{{!}}80px|Bandana Guy|Klest|672|4|274|Nuzleaf|M|39|None|075|Graveler|M|42|None|297|Hariyama|M|41|None|271|Lombre|M|42|None|game=colo|36=ライ|37=Rai}}<br />
{{Trainerdiv|building}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|Colo Hunter f.png{{!}}96px|Hunter|Aline|656|3|375|Metang|A|39|None|303|Mawile|F|40|None|305|Lairon|M|41|None|game=colo|36=パイン|37=Pine}}<br />
{{Trainerdiv|building}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|Colo St.Performer.png{{!}}96px|St.Performer|Luper|640|4|211|Qwilfish|M|40|None|224|Octillery|M|39|None|117|Seadra|F|39|None|160|Feraligatr|M|40|None|game=colo|36=チャリス|37=Challis}}<br />
{{Trainerdiv|building}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|Colo Bodybuilder m 1.png{{!}}96px|Bodybuilder|Givern|1,080|2|294|Loudred|M|45|None|040|Wigglytuff|F|43|None|game=colo|36=ティラノ|37=Tyranno}}<br />
{{Trainerdiv|building|Left room}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|XD Chaser m.png{{!}}96px|Chaser|Trus|800|4|277|Swellow|F|40|None|082|Magneton|A|40|None|038|Ninetales|F|40|None|067|Machoke|M|40|None|game=colo|36=ショウ|37=Shō}}<br />
{{Trainerdiv|building}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|Colo Rider m.png{{!}}96px|Rider|Kevel|410|3|195|Quagsire|F|41|None|232|Donphan|M|40|None|028|Sandslash|M|40|None|game=colo|36=ジャック|37=Jack}}<br />
{{Trainerdiv|building|Right room}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|Colo Rider f.png{{!}}96px|Rider|Elose|400|4|346|Cradily|M|40|None|164|Noctowl|F|39|None|317|Swalot|M|39|None|358|Chimecho|F|40|None|game=colo|36=トレス|37=Toresu}}<br />
{{Trainerfooter|building|Colo}}<br />
<br />
If the player failed to snag a [[Johto]] {{pkmn2|starter}} in Phenac City, it will be a part of the respective Cipher Peon's [[party|team]] here. He will disappear once he's been defeated once and his Shadow Pokémon has been snagged.<br />
<br />
{{MSP/Colo|153|Bayleef}} If [[Verde]] was battled in [[Phenac City]]:<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{green color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{green color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Verde.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize={{pdollar}}1,800<br />
|class=Cipher Peon<br />
|name={{color2|000|Verde}}<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Realgam Tower<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=089<br />
|pokemon=Muk<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=45<br />
|ability=Sticky Hold<br />
|gender=male<br />
|type1=Poison<br />
|move1=Sludge|move1type=Poison<br />
|move2=Strength|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Dig|move3type=Ground<br />
|move4=Acid Armor|move4type=Poison}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=326<br />
|pokemon=Grumpig<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=44<br />
|ability=Thick Fat<br />
|gender=male<br />
|type1=Psychic<br />
|move1=Psybeam|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Shadow Ball|move2type=Ghost<br />
|move3=Bounce|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Flash|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{MSP/Colo|156|Quilava}} If [[Rosso]] was battled in [[Phenac City]]:<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{red color}}<br />
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}<br />
|bordercolor={{red color dark}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Rosso.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize={{pdollar}}1,800<br />
|class=Cipher Peon<br />
|name={{color2|000|Rosso}}<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Realgam Tower<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=089<br />
|pokemon=Muk<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|gender=male<br />
|level=45<br />
|ability=Sticky Hold<br />
|type1=Poison<br />
|move1=Sludge|move1type=Poison<br />
|move2=Strength|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Dig|move3type=Ground<br />
|move4=Acid Armor|move4type=Poison}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=326<br />
|pokemon=Grumpig<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|gender=female<br />
|level=44<br />
|ability=Thick Fat<br />
|type1=Psychic<br />
|move1=Psybeam|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Shadow Ball|move2type=Ghost<br />
|move3=Bounce|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Flash|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{MSP/Colo|159|Croconaw}} If [[Bluno]] was battled in [[Phenac City]]:<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{blue color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{blue color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Bluno.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize={{pdollar}}1,800<br />
|class=Cipher Peon<br />
|name={{color2|000|Bluno}}<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Realgam Tower<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Muk<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|type1=Poison<br />
|ndex=089<br />
|level=45<br />
|ability=Sticky Hold<br />
|gender=male<br />
|move1=Sludge|move1type=Poison<br />
|move2=Strength|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Dig|move3type=Ground<br />
|move4=Acid Armor|move4type=Poison}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Grumpig<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|type1=Psychic<br />
|ndex=326<br />
|level=44<br />
|ability=Thick Fat<br />
|gender=female<br />
|move1=Psybeam|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Shadow Ball|move2type=Ghost<br />
|move3=Bounce|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Flash|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====1F====<br />
{{Trainerheader|building}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|XD Chaser m.png{{!}}96px|Chaser|Rugen|820|2|372|Shelgon|M|40|None|288|Vigoroth|M|41|None|game=colo|36=チャック|37=Chakku}}<br />
{{Trainerfooter|building|Colo}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{cologne color}}<br />
|headcolor={{cologne color light}}<br />
|bordercolor={{cologne color dark}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Gonzap.png<br />
|size=80px<br />
|prize={{pdollar}}5,300<br />
|class=Snagem Head<br />
|classlink=Gonzap<br />
|name={{color2|000|Gonzap}}<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Realgam Tower<br />
|pokemon=5}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=342<br />
|pokemon=Crawdaunt<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Dark<br />
|ability=Hyper Cutter<br />
|level=52<br />
|gender=male<br />
|move1=Sludge Bomb|move1type=Poison<br />
|move2=Crabhammer|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Aerial Ace|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Strength|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=275<br />
|pokemon=Shiftry<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Dark<br />
|ability=Chlorophyll<br />
|level=53<br />
|gender=female<br />
|move1=Aerial Ace|move1type=Flying<br />
|move2=Giga Drain|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Faint Attack|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=Shadow Ball|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=127<br />
|pokemon=Pinsir<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|type1=Bug<br />
|ability=Hyper Cutter<br />
|level=52<br />
|gender=female<br />
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Submission|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Flail|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Cut|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{cologne color}}}}<br />
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=297<br />
|pokemon=Hariyama<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|level=53<br />
|gender=male<br />
|move1=Brick Break|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Earthquake|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Foresight|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Reversal|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/3/Shadow<br />
|ndex=227<br />
|pokemon=Skarmory<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|type1=Steel|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Keen Eye<br />
|ability2=Sturdy<br />
|held=Sharp Beak<br />
|level=47<br />
|move1=Shadow Rush|move1type=Shadow<br />
|move2=Metal Sound|move2type=Steel<br />
|move3=Air Cutter|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Steel Wing|move4type=Steel}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Tower Colosseum====<br />
{{main|Realgam Colosseum#Pokémon Colosseum|Realgam Colosseum → Pokémon Colosseum}}<br />
<br />
===Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness===<br />
====Battle Sims====<br />
{{main|Battle CDs 01-10}}<br />
{{main|Battle CDs 11-20}}<br />
{{main|Battle CDs 21-30}}<br />
{{main|Battle CDs 31-40}}<br />
{{main|Battle CDs 41-50}}<br />
<br />
====Realgam Colosseum====<br />
{{main|Realgam Colosseum#Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|Realgam Colosseum → Pokémon XD}}<br />
<br />
==Layout==<br />
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #000; border: 3px solid #{{Locationcolor/dark|building}}"<br />
|-<br />
! style="background:#{{Locationcolor/light|building}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Game<br />
! style="background:#{{Locationcolor/light|building}}" | Courtyard<br />
! style="background:#{{Locationcolor/light|building}}" | Entrance Dome<br />
! style="background:#{{Locationcolor/light|building}}" | Junction Dome<br />
! style="background:#{{Locationcolor/light|building}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Restore Machine Dome<br />
|-<br />
! style="background:#{{colo color}}" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Colosseum|Colo}}<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
! style="background:#{{xd color}}" | {{color2|fff|Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|XD}}<br />
| [[File:Tower Colosseum Entrance XD.png|200px]]<br />
| [[File:Tower Colosseum South XD.png|200px]]<br />
| [[File:Tower Colosseum Central XD.png|200px]]<br />
| [[File:Tower Colosseum East XD.png|200px]]<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="5" style="background:#{{Locationcolor/light|building}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | &nbsp;<br />
|}<br />
{{-}}<br />
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #000; border: 3px solid #{{Locationcolor/dark|building}}"<br />
|- style="background:#{{Locationcolor/light|building}}"<br />
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Game<br />
! Poké Mart Dome<br />
! Lobby<br />
! Battle Bingo Dome<br />
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Battle Sim Network Dome<br />
|- style="background:#000"<br />
! style="background:#{{colo color}}" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Colosseum|Colo}}<br />
| <br />
| <br />
| <br />
| <br />
|-<br />
! style="background:#{{xd color}}" | {{color2|fff|Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|XD}}<br />
| [[File:Tower Colosseum West XD.png|200px]]<br />
| [[File:Tower Colosseum North XD.png|200px]]<br />
| [[File:Realgam Tower Battle Bingo XD.png|140px]]<br />
| [[File:Realgam Tower Battle Sim XD.png|140px]]<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="5" style="background:#{{Locationcolor/light|building}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | &nbsp;<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Trivia==<br />
* The statues in Realgam Tower correspond to the Shadow Pokémon owned by the four Cipher Admins in Colosseum - {{p|Sudowoodo}}, {{p|Entei}}, {{p|Suicune}}, and {{p|Raikou}}.<br />
** Additionally, several portraits of {{p|Ludicolo}} can be seen.<br />
* In the [[Pokémon XD beta|leftover maps]] for Pokémon XD, the Construction Lot is still within the game. This is because Pokémon XD used {{g|Colosseum}} as the base game.<br />
<br />
==In other languages==<br />
{|<br />
|- style="vertical-align:top"<br />
|<br />
''Realgam Tower''<br />
<br />
{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{locationcolor/light|building}}; border:3px solid #{{locationcolor/dark|building}}"<br />
|-<br />
! Language<br />
! Name<br />
! Origin<br />
|- style="background:#FFF"<br />
| Japanese<br />
| ラルガタワー ''Ralga Tower''<br />
| From the mineral ''{{wp|realgar}}'' and possibly ''larga'' (Latin for "large" and "bountiful")<br />
|- style="background:#FFF"<br />
| English<br />
| Realgam Tower<br />
| From ''realgar''<br />
|- style="background:#FFF"<br />
| German<br />
| Largha-Turm<br />
| From its Japanese name<br />
|- style="background:#FFF"<br />
| Spanish<br />
| Torre Colosal<br />
| From ''colosal'' (colossal)<br />
|- style="background:#FFF"<br />
| French<br />
| Tour Titanite<br />
| From ''{{wp|titanite}}'' and ''titan''<br />
|- style="background:#FFF"<br />
| Italian<br />
| Torre Colossale<br />
| From ''colossale'' (colossal)<br />
|}<br />
|<br />
''Construction Lot''<br />
{{langtable|color={{locationcolor/light|building}}|bordercolor={{locationcolor/dark|building}}<br />
|fr_eu=Chantier de Construction<br />
|de=Baustelle<br />
|it=Cantiere<br />
|es_eu=Zona de Obras}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
{{Orre}}<br><br />
{{Project Locations notice}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Orre locations]]<br />
[[Category:Colosseum locations]]<br />
[[Category:XD locations]]<br />
[[Category:Towers]]<br />
[[Category:Villainous team bases]]<br />
<br />
[[de:Largha-Turm]]<br />
[[es:Torre Colosal]]<br />
[[fr:Tour Titanite]]<br />
[[it:Torre Colossale]]<br />
[[ja:ラルガタワー]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_HQ_Lab&diff=3566029Pokémon HQ Lab2022-09-05T17:44:32Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* Items */ Corrected information on when Battle CD 33 becomes available</p>
<hr />
<div>{{samename|location in {{ga|Detective Pikachu}} with the same Japanese name|Pokémon Comprehensive Laboratory}}<br />
----<br />
{{Infobox location<br />
|image=HQ Lab Exterior.png<br />
|image_size=300px<br />
|type=building<br />
|mapdesc=The <sc>Orre Region</sc>'s top research lab that studies <sc>Pok</sc>é<sc>mon</sc> comprehensively.<br />
|location_name=Pokémon HQ Lab<br />
|japanese_name=ポケモン総合研究所<br />
|translated_name=Pokémon Coordination Lab<br />
|location=Northwestern Orre<br />
|region=Orre<br />
|generation={{gen|III}}<br />
|mapsize=300px<br />
}}<br />
<br />
'''Pokémon HQ Lab''' (Japanese: '''ポケモン総合研究所''' ''Pokémon Coordination Lab'') is a location in [[Orre]] found in [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]], northwest of most other Orre landmarks. It is the home to some of most of the important characters in the game, most notably the [[player character]], [[Michael]], as well as their little sister [[Jovi]], their mother {{OBP|Lily|XD}}, and [[Professor Krane]].<br />
<br />
The lab researches various aspects of Pokémon, such as their ecosystems and {{pkmn|battle|battling}}. For the latter purpose, the lab houses a [[Battle Sims|Battle Simulator]], where the player can experience several tutorial battles against {{tc|Sim Trainer}}s. The most notable feature of the lab, however, is the [[Purify Chamber]], which Professor Krane created in case if [[Shadow Pokémon]] were ever to resurface. This device, once completed, allows the player to [[purification|purify]] Shadow Pokémon much more effectively than in [[Pokémon Colosseum]]. Krane also developed the [[Aura Reader]] and a new [[Snag Machine]] as tools to recognize and [[snagging|snag]] Shadow Pokémon.<br />
<br />
==Items==<br />
{{itlisth|building}}<br />
{{itemlist|None|Residential Wing 1F, inside the {{player}}'s room|XD=yes|display=[[P★DA]]}}<br />
{{itemlist|Potion|Residential Wing 1F, inside the player's room|XD=yes|display=[[Potion]] ×3}}<br />
{{itemlist|Antidote|Exterior, behind the building|XD=yes|display=[[Antidote]] ×2}}<br />
{{itemlist||sprite=Snag Machine XD|size=40px|Laboratory Wing 1F, inside the main lobby after returning home with [[Jovi]] from [[Kaminko's House]]|XD=yes|display=[[Snag Machine]]}}<br />
{{itemlist|None|Laboratory Wing 1F, received from Aidan after obtaining the Snag Machine|XD=yes|display=[[P★DA|Shadow Monitor]]}}<br />
{{itemlist|Poké Ball|Laboratory Wing 1F, received from Aidan after obtaining the Snag Machine|XD=yes|display={{i|Poké Ball}} ×5}}<br />
{{itemlist|Poké Ball|Exterior, automatically obtained if the player has no Poké Balls in their [[Bag]] while battling [[Naps]]|XD=yes|display={{i|Poké Ball}}}}<br />
{{itemlist|None|Exterior, received from Aidan once [[Gateon Port]] is marked on the map|XD=yes|display=[[Krane Memo|Krane Memos 1 and 2]]}}<br />
{{itemlist|None|Exterior, received from Aidan after getting the {{or|Machine Part}} from Gateon Port|XD=yes|display=[[Krane Memo|Krane Memos 3, 4, and 5]]}}<br />
{{Itemlist|None|sprite=National Ribbon|Laboratory Wing 1F, given to a Pokémon upon its purification|XD=yes|display={{DL|List of Ribbons in the games|National Ribbon}}}}<br />
{{itemlist|TM Normal|Exterior, retrieved from Datan after clearing out [[Cipher Lab]]|XD=yes|display=[[Data ROM]]}}<br />
{{itemlist|Master Ball|Secret Wing, received from Professor Krane after clearing the [[Cipher Key Lair]]|XD=yes}}<br />
{{itemlist|TM Normal|Residential Wing 1F, in a bookshelf in the room with a female {{tc|Ace Trainer|Cooltrainer}} and a {{p|Kirlia}} after liberating [[Phenac City]]|XD=yes|display={{DL|Battle CDs 31-40|Battle CD 33}}}}<br />
{{itlistfoot|building}}<br />
<br />
==Pokémon==<br />
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{locationcolor/light|building}}; border: 3px solid #{{locationcolor/dark|building}}"<br />
! colspan=2 | Pokémon<br />
! Level<br />
! Rate<br />
|-<br />
| style="text-align:center; background: #fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | [[File:Menu XD 133.png|link=Eevee (Pokémon)]]<br />
| style="text-align:center; background: #fff" | {{p|Eevee}}<br />
| style="text-align:center; background: #fff" | 10<br />
| style="text-align:center; background: #fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | Starter<br>Pokémon<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Trainers==<br />
Aferd won't battle the player while [[Professor Krane]] is at [[Cipher Lab]] or while the [[Snag Machine]] is stolen.<br />
{{Trainerheader|building}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|Colo Supertrainer m 2.png{{!}}96px|Supertrainer|Aferd|250|1|161|Sentret|M|5|game=xd|36=アスリン|37=Asurin|38=Poké Ball}}<br />
{{Trainerdiv|building|Rematch}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|Colo Supertrainer m 2.png{{!}}96px|Supertrainer|Aferd|1,700<br><small>After arriving at [[Pyrite Town]]</small>|2|162|Furret|M|17|None|163|Hoothoot|F|17|None|game=xd|36=アスリン|37=Asurin|38=Poké Ball}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|Colo Supertrainer m 2.png{{!}}96px|Supertrainer|Aferd|1,800<br><small>Once [[Poké Spot|Cave Poké Spot]] is marked on map</small>|3|162|Furret|M|18|None|163|Hoothoot|F|18|None|290|Nincada|M|18|None|game=xd|36=アスリン|37=Asurin|38=Poké Ball}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|Colo Supertrainer m 2.png{{!}}96px|Supertrainer|Aferd|2,800<br><small>After defeating [[Gonzap]]</small>|4|162|Furret|M|28|None|164|Noctowl|F|28|None|291|Ninjask|M|28|None|292|Shedinja||28|None|game=xd|36=アスリン|37=Asurin|38=Poké Ball}}<br />
{{Trainerentry|Colo Supertrainer m 2.png{{!}}96px|Supertrainer|Aferd|5,000<br><small>After defeating [[Greevil]]</small>|4|162|Furret|M|50|None|164|Noctowl|F|50|None|291|Ninjask|M|50|None|292|Shedinja||50|None|game=xd|36=アスリン|37=Asurin|38=Poké Ball}}<br />
{{Trainerfooter|building|XD}}<br />
<br />
;After obtaining the [[Snag Machine]]<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{XD color}}<br />
|headcolor={{XD color light}}<br />
|bordercolor={{XD color dark}}<br />
|sprite=Naps Headshot.png<br />
|prize={{Pdollar}}165<br />
|class=Spy<br />
|name={{color2|000|Naps}}<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pokémon HQ Lab<br />
|pokemon=1}}<br />
| style="margin:auto" |<br />
{{Pokémon/3/Shadow<br />
|ndex=216<br />
|pokemon=Teddiursa<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=11<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Pickup<br />
|move1=Shadow Blitz|move1type=Shadow<br />
|move2=Shadow Mist|move2type=Shadow}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
;After defeating [[Greevil]]<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{xd color}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|bordercolor={{xd color dark}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Eagun.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize={{PDollar}}5,500<br />
|class=Myth Trainer<br />
|name={{color2|000|Eagun}}<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pokémon HQ Lab<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=172<br />
|pokemon=Pichu<br />
|game=XD<br />
|gender=male<br />
|level=45<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Rain Dance|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Thunderbolt|move2type=Electric}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=172<br />
|pokemon=Pichu<br />
|game=XD<br />
|gender=male<br />
|level=45<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Thunder Wave|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Thunder|move2type=Electric}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=025<br />
|pokemon=Pikachu<br />
|game=XD<br />
|gender=male<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|held=Light Ball<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Thunder|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Thunder Wave|move2type=Electric}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{xd color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=025<br />
|pokemon=Pikachu<br />
|game=XD<br />
|gender=male<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|held=Light Ball<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Volt Tackle|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Rain Dance|move2type=Water}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=026<br />
|pokemon=Raichu<br />
|game=XD<br />
|gender=male<br />
|level=55<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Thunder|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Thunder Wave|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Brick Break|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Counter|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=026<br />
|pokemon=Raichu<br />
|game=XD<br />
|gender=male<br />
|level=55<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Volt Tackle|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Rain Dance|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Brick Break|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Counter|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
===Battle Sims===<br />
{{main|Battle Sims#Pokémon HQ Lab Battle Sims|Battle Sims → Pokémon HQ Lab Battle Sims}}<br />
<br />
==Layout==<br />
===Exterior, Secret Wing, and 1F===<br />
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #000; border: 3px solid #{{Locationcolor/dark|building}}"<br />
|-<br />
! style="background:#{{Locationcolor/light|building}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Game<br />
! style="background:#{{Locationcolor/light|building}}" | Exterior<br />
! style="background:#{{Locationcolor/light|building}}" | Secret Wing<br />
! style="background:#{{Locationcolor/light|building}}" | Laboratory Wing 1F<br />
! style="background:#{{Locationcolor/light|building}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Residential Wing 1F<br />
|-<br />
! style="background:#{{xd color}}" | {{color2|fff|Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|XD}}<br />
| [[File:HQ Lab Exterior.png|200px]]<br />
| [[File:HQ Lab B1 Residential Wing.png|200px]]<br />
| [[File:HQ Lab 1F Laboratory Wing.png|200px]]<br />
| [[File:HQ Lab 1F Residential Wing.png|200px]]<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="5" style="background:#{{Locationcolor/light|building}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | &nbsp;<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===2F===<br />
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #000; border: 3px solid #{{Locationcolor/dark|building}}"<br />
|-<br />
! style="background:#{{Locationcolor/light|building}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Game<br />
! style="background:#{{Locationcolor/light|building}}" | Laboratory Wing 2F<br />
! style="background:#{{Locationcolor/light|building}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Residential Wing 2F<br />
|-<br />
! style="background:#{{xd color}}" | {{color2|fff|Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|XD}}<br />
| [[File:HQ Lab 2F Laboratory Wing.png|220px]]<br />
| [[File:HQ Lab 2F Residential Wing.png|220px]]<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="3" style="background:#{{Locationcolor/light|building}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | &nbsp;<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Trivia==<br />
* A {{p|Kecleon}} is hiding on the table close to where [[Adon]] is hiding.<br />
* Early in the game, the player can talk to the receptionist in the east wing about previous Shadow Pokémon incidents; there is a typographical error in one of her explanations, with two dots ("..") appearing where an ellipsis ("...") would be expected.<br />
* The player's Eevee starts with 1,250 [[experience|Experience Points]].<br />
<br />
==In other languages==<br />
{{langtable|color={{locationcolor/light|building}}|bordercolor={{locationcolor/dark|building}}<br />
|fr_eu=Laboratoire Pokémon<br />
|de=Pokémon-Hauptlabor<br />
|it=Istituto Pokémon<br />
|es_eu=Laboratorio Pokémon<br />
}}<br />
<br />
{{Orre}}<br><br />
{{Project Locations notice}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Orre locations]]<br />
[[Category:XD locations]]<br />
[[Category:Research centers]]<br />
<br />
[[de:Pokémon-Hauptlabor]]<br />
[[es:Laboratorio Pokémon (Aura)]]<br />
[[fr:Laboratoire Pokémon (Rhode)]]<br />
[[it:Istituto Pokémon]]<br />
[[ja:ポケモン総合研究所]]<br />
[[zh:寶可夢綜合研究所（歐雷）]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pyrite_Colosseum&diff=3565417Pyrite Colosseum2022-09-04T04:17:32Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* Round 1 */ Both of Resila's Pichu are male.</p>
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<div>{{Infobox location<br />
|type=mountain<br />
|image=Pyrite Colosseum.png<br />
|size=220px<br />
|location_name=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|japanese_name=パイラコロシアム<br />
|translated_name=Pyra Colosseum<br />
|location=[[Pyrite Town]]<br />
|region=Orre<br />
|generation={{gen|III}}<br />
|map=Orre Pyrite Town Map.png<br />
|mapsize=250px<br />
}}<br />
'''Pyrite Colosseum''' (Japanese: '''パイラコロシアム''' ''Pyra Colosseum'') is the Colosseum in [[Pyrite Town]] in the [[Orre]] region. It appears in {{g|Colosseum}} and {{g|XD: Gale of Darkness}}. It is run by [[Duking]] and powered by the nearby windmill-driven power station.<br />
<br />
==Items==<br />
{{itlisth|mountain}}<br />
{{itemlist|TM Poison|Reward for clearing the Colosseum while it's under [[Miror B.]]'s control|Colo=yes|display={{TM|06|Toxic}}}}<br />
{{itemlist|TM Fighting|Reward for clearing Round 1 for the first time|Colo=yes|display={{TM|01|Focus Punch}}}}<br />
{{itemlist|TM Ice|Reward for clearing Round 2 for the first time|Colo=yes|display={{TM|07|Hail}}}}<br />
{{itemlist|TM Normal|Reward for clearing Round 3{{sup/ss|Colo}}/4{{sup/ss|XD}} for the first time|Colo=yes|XD=yes|display={{TM|05|Roar}}}}<br />
{{itemlist|TM Fighting|Reward for clearing Round 4{{sup/ss|Colo}}/1{{sup/ss|XD}} for the first time|Colo=yes|XD=yes|display={{TM|31|Brick Break}}}}<br />
{{itemlist|TM Dark|Reward for clearing Round 2 for the first time|XD=yes|display={{TM|12|Taunt}}}}<br />
{{itemlist|TM Dark|Reward for clearing Round 3 for the first time|XD=yes|display={{TM|41|Torment}}}}<br />
{{itlistfoot|mountain}}<br />
<br />
==Trainers==<br />
===Pokémon Colosseum===<br />
In {{g|Colosseum}}, {{tc|Cipher Admin}} [[Miror B.]] is behind a secret operation handing out [[Shadow Pokémon]] to winners of the tournament. After Miror B. is defeated at his hideout in [[Pyrite Cave]], the Colosseum returns to normal operation under Duking.<br />
<br />
====Story Mode====<br />
All Story Mode Colosseum challenges are conducted in [[Double Battle]] format.<br />
<br />
=====Before defeating Miror B.=====<br />
The {{player}} must clear this gauntlet to gain access to the [[Pyrite Bldg]].<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Hunter m.png{{!}}80px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Hoks<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Barboach<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=339<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=30<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Ground<br />
|ability=Oblivious<br />
|move1=Water Gun|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Secret Power|move2type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Sandshrew<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=027<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=31<br />
|type1=Ground<br />
|ability=Sand Veil<br />
|move1=Poison Sting|move1type=Poison<br />
|move2=Scratch|move2type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Chaser f 2.png{{!}}90px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Tisler<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Natu<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=177<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=30<br />
|type1=Psychic|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Leer|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Peck|move2type=Flying}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Meditite<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=307<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=30<br />
|type1=Fighting|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Pure Power<br />
|move1=Confusion|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Hidden Power|move2type=Fighting}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Bandana Guy.png{{!}}70px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Bandana Guy<br />
|name=Vilch<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Electrike<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=309<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=30<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Howl|move2type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Cacnea<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=331<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=31<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|ability=Sand Veil<br />
|move1=Poison Sting|move1type=Poison<br />
|move2=Absorb|move2type=Grass}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Vulpix<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=037<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=32<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|ability=Flash Fire<br />
|move1=Ember|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Bodybuilder m 3.png{{!}}85px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Bodybuilder<br />
|name=Mirez<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=371<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Bagon<br />
|gender=male<br />
|type1=Dragon<br />
|ability=Rock Head<br />
|level=32<br />
|move1=Headbutt|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Rage|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Ember|move4type=Fire}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=118<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Goldeen<br />
|gender=female<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|ability=Water Veil<br />
|level=32<br />
|move1=Surf|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Peck|move2type=Flying<br />
|move3=Horn Attack|move3type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=081<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Magnemite<br />
|type1=Electric|type2=Steel<br />
|ability=Sturdy<br />
|level=31<br />
|move1=ThunderShock|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Metal Sound|move2type=Steel<br />
|move3=SonicBoom|move3type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=225<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Delibird<br />
|gender=female<br />
|type1=Ice|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Vital Spirit<br />
|level=34<br />
|move1=Present|move1type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
Defeating all of the Trainers earns the player {{PDollar}}4,848 and {{TM|06|Toxic}}.<br />
<br />
=====Round 1 (after defeating Miror B.)=====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Roller Boy.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Roller Boy<br />
|name=Azal<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Linoone<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=264<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=51<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Pickup<br />
|move1=Headbutt|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Surf|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Cut|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Dig|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Teddiursa<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=216<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Pickup<br />
|move1=Thrash|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Leer|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Fury Swipes|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Faint Attack|move4type=Dark}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Rider f.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Rider<br />
|name=Trona<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Delcatty<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=301<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Cute Charm<br />
|move1=DoubleSlap|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Shock Wave|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Rock Smash|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Frustration|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Jigglypuff<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=039<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=51<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Cute Charm<br />
|move1=DoubleSlap|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Rollout|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=Brick Break|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Pound|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Bodybuilder m 1.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Bodybuilder<br />
|name=Becher<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Doduo<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=084<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Run Away<br />
|move1=Rage|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Pursuit|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Fury Attack|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Steel Wing|move4type=Steel}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Loudred<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=294<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=51<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Soundproof<br />
|move1=Overheat|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Uproar|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Astonish|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Stomp|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Furret<br />
|ndex=162<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Keen Eye<br />
|move1=Facade|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Dig|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Quick Attack|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Assist|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser m.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Zime<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Vigoroth<br />
|ndex=288<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Vital Spirit<br />
|move1=Slash|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Protect|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Brick Break|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Reversal|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Combusken<br />
|ndex=256<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=55<br />
|type1=Fire|type2=Fighting<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Blaze<br />
|move1=Overheat|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Double Kick|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Rock Tomb|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Dig|move4type=Ground}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Koffing<br />
|ndex=109<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|gender=female<br />
|type1=Poison<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Explosion|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Sludge|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Psywave|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Shadow Ball|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Swellow<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=277<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=54<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Sky Attack|move1type=Flying<br />
|move2=Aerial Ace|move2type=Flying<br />
|move3=Endeavor|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
Defeating all of the Trainers earns the player {{PDollar}}6,308 and {{TM|01|Focus Punch}}.<br />
<br />
=====Round 2=====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Hunter f.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Muna<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Shroomish<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=285<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=51<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|ability=Effect Spore<br />
|move1=Growth|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Snatch|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Bullet Seed|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Frustration|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Oddish<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=043<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=51<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Poison<br />
|ability=Chlorophyll<br />
|move1=Acid|move1type=Poison<br />
|move2=Absorb|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Flail|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Frustration|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser m.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Kell<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Roselia<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=315<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Poison<br />
|ability=Poison Point<br />
|move1=Spikes|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Poison Sting|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Sludge Bomb|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Shadow Ball|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Lileep<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=345<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Grass<br />
|ability=Suction Cups<br />
|move1=AncientPower|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Constrict|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Stockpile|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Spit Up|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Spinda<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=327<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=51<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Own Tempo<br />
|move1=Thrash|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Dig|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Faint Attack|move3type=Dark}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Bodybuilder m 1.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Bodybuilder<br />
|name=Torf<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Cacnea<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=331<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|ability=Sand Veil<br />
|move1=DynamicPunch|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Faint Attack|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Needle Arm|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Cotton Spore|move4type=Grass}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Gloom<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=044<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Poison<br />
|ability=Chlorophyll<br />
|move1=Razor Leaf|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=Sludge Bomb|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Cut|move3type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Machop<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=066<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=DynamicPunch|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Karate Chop|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=SmellingSalt|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Low Kick|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Rider m.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Rider<br />
|name=Ligam<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Grovyle<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=253<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|ability=Overgrow<br />
|move1=Fury Cutter|move1type=Bug<br />
|move2=Pursuit|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=SolarBeam|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Slam|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Nuzleaf<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=274<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Dark<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Explosion|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Giga Drain|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Nature Power|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Razor Wind|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Lairon<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=305<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|type1=Steel|type2=Rock<br />
|ability=Rock Head<br />
|move1=Headbutt|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Metal Claw|move2type=Steel<br />
|move3=Body Slam|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
Defeating all of the Trainers earns the player {{PDollar}}7,208 and {{TM|07|Hail}}.<br />
<br />
=====Round 3=====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Rider m.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Rider<br />
|name=Vorem<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Baltoy<br />
|ndex=343<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=51<br />
|type1=Ground|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Selfdestruct|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Psybeam|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Rock Tomb|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Dig|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Hoothoot<br />
|ndex=163<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Insomnia<br />
|move1=Sky Attack|move1type=Flying<br />
|move2=Aerial Ace|move2type=Flying<br />
|move3=Shadow Ball|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Numel<br />
|ndex=322<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Oblivious<br />
|move1=Overheat|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Stomp|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Amnesia|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Focus Energy|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Bodybuilder f.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Bodybuilder<br />
|name=Seben<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Rhyhorn<br />
|ndex=111<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Ground|type2=Rock<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Rock Head<br />
|move1=Stomp|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Fury Attack|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Rock Slide|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Meditite<br />
|ndex=307<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|gender=male<br />
|type1=Fighting|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Pure Power<br />
|move1=DynamicPunch|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Bide|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Detect|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Strength|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Hunter f.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Athon<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Graveler<br />
|ndex=075<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|gender=female<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Ground<br />
|ability=Sturdy<br />
|move1=Explosion|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Rock Throw|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=Secret Power|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Rollout|move4type=Rock}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Pupitar<br />
|ndex=247<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=54<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Shed Skin<br />
|move1=Thrash|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Sandstorm|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Secret Power|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Roller Boy.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Roller Boy<br />
|name=Arez<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Gligar<br />
|ndex=207<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=55<br />
|type1=Ground|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Hyper Cutter<br />
|move1=Metal Claw|move1type=Steel<br />
|move2=Slash|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Faint Attack|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=Aerial Ace|move4type=Flying}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Pelipper<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=279<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Keen Eye<br />
|move1=Ice Beam|move1type=Ice<br />
|move2=Facade|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Wing Attack|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Surf|move4type=Water}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Shelgon<br />
|ndex=372<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=54<br />
|type1=Dragon<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Rock Head<br />
|move1=Twister|move1type=Dragon<br />
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=DragonBreath|move3type=Dragon<br />
|move4=Frustration|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Quagsire<br />
|ndex=195<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|gender=male<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Ground<br />
|ability=Water Absorb<br />
|move1=Slam|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Mud Shot|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Waterfall|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Sludge Bomb|move4type=Poison}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
Defeating all of the Trainers earns the player {{PDollar}}5,972 and {{TM|05|Roar}}.<br />
<br />
=====Round 4=====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Bodybuilder m 1.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Bodybuilder<br />
|name=Gano<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Minun<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=312<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=51<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Minus<br />
|move1=Spark|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Shock Wave|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Quick Attack|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Helping Hand|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Pikachu<br />
|ndex=025<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|gender=male<br />
|move1=Reversal|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Shock Wave|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Focus Punch|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Strength|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo St.Performer.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=St.Performer<br />
|name=Balton<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Wailmer<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=320<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|ability=Water Veil<br />
|move1=Thrash|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Rollout|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=Splash|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Whirlpool|move4type=Water}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Voltorb<br />
|ndex=100<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Soundproof<br />
|move1=Charge|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Spark|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Rollout|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Torment|move4type=Dark}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Hunter m.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Argel<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Larvitar<br />
|ndex=246<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Ground<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|gender=male<br />
|move1=Outrage|move1type=Dragon<br />
|move2=Rock Slide|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=Taunt|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=Rock Smash|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Magnemite<br />
|ndex=081<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|type1=Electric|type2=Steel<br />
|ability=Magnet Pull<br />
|move1=Lock-On|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Zap Cannon|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Secret Power|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Tackle|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Chinchou<br />
|ndex=170<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=54<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Electric<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Volt Absorb<br />
|move1=Waterfall|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Ice Beam|move2type=Ice<br />
|move3=Flail|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Frustration|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Rider f.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Rider<br />
|name=Heral<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Electrode<br />
|ndex=101<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=54<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Soundproof<br />
|move1=Explosion|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Thunderbolt|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Screech|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Lunatone<br />
|ndex=337<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=54<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Explosion|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Psywave|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Rock Throw|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Machoke<br />
|ndex=067<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=54<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=DynamicPunch|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Vital Throw|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Foresight|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Ampharos<br />
|ndex=181<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=55<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=ThunderPunch|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Strength|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Odor Sleuth|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
Defeating all of the Trainers earns the player {{PDollar}}7,020 and {{TM|31|Brick Break}}.<br />
<br />
=====Subsequent Rounds=====<br />
After round 4 has been beaten, the cycle is restarted with round 1. The player will fight the same trainers and get the same cash reward, although no TM will be awarded for replaying a round.<br />
<br />
====Battle Mode====<br />
{{main|Battle Mode (Colosseum)}}<br />
<br />
=====Single Battle=====<br />
{{main|Pyrite Colosseum/Battle Mode Single}}<br />
<br />
=====Double Battle=====<br />
{{main|Pyrite Colosseum/Battle Mode Double}}<br />
<br />
===Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness===<br />
In {{Pokémon XD}}, if the [[Miror Radar]] goes off, [[Miror B.]] may appear here, replacing one of the regular Trainers and carrying a [[Shadow Pokémon]] the player previously failed to [[Snagging|snag]]. There is also a knockout challenge in Pyrite Colosseum.<br />
<br />
====Round 1====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser f1.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Resila<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Teddiursa<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=216<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Pickup<br />
|move1=Fake Tears|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Fury Swipes|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Lick|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Metal Claw|move4type=Steel}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Pichu<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=172<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Light Screen|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Shock Wave|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Present|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Thunder Wave|move4type=Electric}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b color}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Smoochum<br />
|ndex=238<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Ice|type2=Psychic<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Oblivious<br />
|move1=Powder Snow|move1type=Ice<br />
|move2=Pound|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Attract|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Sweet Kiss|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Pichu<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=172<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Charm|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Shock Wave|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Sweet Kiss|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Tail Whip|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Sailor.png{{!}}96px<br />
|class=Sailor<br />
|name=Monar<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Chikorita<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=152<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|ability=Overgrow<br />
|move1=PoisonPowder|move1type=Poison<br />
|move2=Razor Leaf|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Ingrain|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Attract|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Cyndaquil<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=155<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|ability=Blaze<br />
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=SmokeScreen|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Ember|move3type=Fire<br />
|move4=Leer|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Totodile<br />
|ndex=158<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Torrent<br />
|move1=Bite|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Mud Sport|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Water Pulse|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Leer|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser m.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Rafert<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Ralts<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=280<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Psychic<br />
|ability=Synchronize<br />
|move1=Will-O-Wisp|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Mean Look|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Attract|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Destiny Bond|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Duskull<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=355<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Ghost<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Confuse Ray|move1type=Ghost<br />
|move2=Pain Split|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Disable|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Astonish|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b color}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Poochyena<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=261<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Dark<br />
|ability=Run Away<br />
|move1=Yawn|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Poison Fang|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Sand-Attack|move3type=Ground<br />
|move4=Covet|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Taillow<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=276<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Double Team|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Wing Attack|move2type=Flying<br />
|move3=Attract|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Supersonic|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser f2.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Jupex<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Plusle<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=311<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Plus<br />
|move1=Shock Wave|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Helping Hand|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Thunder Wave|move4type=Electric}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Snubbull<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=209<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Water Pulse|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Counter|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=SmellingSalt|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Lick|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Minun<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=312<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Minus<br />
|move1=Spark|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Metronome|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Helping Hand|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Attract|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
Defeating all the Trainers will earn the player {{pdollar}}3,040 and {{TM|31|Brick Break}}.<br />
<br />
====Round 2====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Hunter.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Haxer<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Ledyba<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=165<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Swarm<br />
|move1=Light Screen|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Silver Wind|move2type=Bug<br />
|move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Swift|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Mareep<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=179<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Light Screen|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=ThunderShock|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Facade|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Wooper<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=194<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|type2=Ground<br />
|ability=Water Absorb<br />
|move1=AncientPower|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Mud-Slap|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Water Gun|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Safeguard|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser f1.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Mestil<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Cleffa<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=173<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|ability=Cute Charm<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|move1=Sweet Kiss|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Metronome|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Pound|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Charm|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Pichu<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=172<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Sweet Kiss|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=ThunderShock|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Thunder Wave|move3type=Electric<br />
|move4=Charm|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b color}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Smoochum<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=238<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Ice<br />
|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Oblivious<br />
|move1=Lick|move1type=Ghost<br />
|move2=Sweet Kiss|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Attract|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Ice Punch|move4type=Ice}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Togepi<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=175<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Serene Grace<br />
|move1=Sweet Kiss|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Metronome|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Peck|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Charm|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser m.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Novil<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Seedot<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=273<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|ability=Chlorophyll<br />
|move1=Sunny Day|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Synthesis|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Leech Seed|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Harden|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Castform<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=351<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Forecast<br />
|move1=Powder Snow|move1type=Ice<br />
|move2=Water Gun|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Ember|move3type=Fire<br />
|move4=Swift|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Lotad<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=270<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|type2=Grass<br />
|ability=Swift Swim<br />
|move1=Rain Dance|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Astonish|move2type=Ghost<br />
|move3=Razor Leaf|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Mist|move4type=Ice}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Researcher.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Researcher<br />
|classlink=Scientist (Trainer class)<br />
|name=Orill<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Makuhita<br />
|ndex=296<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|ability=Thick Fat|gender=male<br />
|move1=Fake Out|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Vital Throw|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Tackle|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Sand-Attack|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Magnemite<br />
|ndex=081<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|type2=Steel<br />
|ability=Sturdy<br />
|move1=SonicBoom|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Supersonic|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=ThunderShock|move3type=Electric<br />
|move4=Metal Sound|move4type=Steel}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Meditite<br />
|ndex=307<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Pure Power|gender=male<br />
|move1=Fake Out|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Meditate|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Confusion|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Bide|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
Defeating all the Trainers will earn the player {{pdollar}}3,040 and {{TM|12|Taunt}}.<br />
<br />
====Round 3====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Hunter.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Nostal<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Rhyhorn<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=111<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Ground|type2=Rock<br />
|ability=Lightningrod<br />
|move1=Thunder|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Blizzard|move2type=Ice<br />
|move3=Fire Blast|move3type=Fire<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Wingull<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=278<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Keen Eye<br />
|move1=Wing Attack|move1type=Flying<br />
|move2=Water Pulse|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Shock Wave|move3type=Electric<br />
|move4=Twister|move4type=Dragon}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Roselia<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=315<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Poison<br />
|ability=Natural Cure<br />
|move1=Mega Drain|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=Sweet Scent|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Stun Spore|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Growth|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser f1.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Ostix<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Smeargle<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=235<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Own Tempo<br />
|move1=Follow Me|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Thrash|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Flail|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Metronome|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Sentret<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=161<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Keen Eye<br />
|move1=Helping Hand|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Assist|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Thief|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Skitty<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=300<br />
|game=XD<br />
|held=Persim Berry<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Cute Charm<br />
|move1=Helping Hand|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Assist|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Covet|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Endure|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser m.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Tarbil<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Spinda<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=327<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Own Tempo<br />
|move1=Teeter Dance|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Psych Up|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Swagger|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Brick Break|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Trapinch<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=328<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Ground<br />
|ability=Arena Trap<br />
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Dig|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Swagger|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Bite|move4type=Dark}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Spoink<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=325<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Psychic<br />
|ability=Own Tempo<br />
|move1=Psych Up|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Psywave|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Bounce|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Swagger|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Sailor.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Sailor<br />
|name=Tebu<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Stantler<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=234<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Spite|move1type=Ghost<br />
|move2=Sand-Attack|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Astonish|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Roar|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Snubbull<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=209<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Bite|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Thief|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Attract|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Roar|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Hitmontop<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=237<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Rock Smash|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Mind Reader|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Rapid Spin|move3type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
Defeating all the Trainers will earn the player {{pdollar}}2,880 and {{TM|41|Torment}}.<br />
<br />
====Round 4====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser f2.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Sellis<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Taillow<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=276<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Mud-Slap|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Rest|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Peck|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Snore|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Natu<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=177<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Psychic|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Synchronize<br />
|move1=Thunder Wave|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Future Sight|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Swift|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=FeatherDance|move4type=Flying}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b color}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Torchic<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=255<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|ability=Blaze<br />
|move1=Seismic Toss|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Fire Spin|move3type=Fire<br />
|move4=Sunny Day|move4type=Fire}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Swablu<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=333<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Natural Cure<br />
|move1=Fury Attack|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Sing|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Astonish|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Double Team|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD_Sailor.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Sailor<br />
|name=Mifis<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Jigglypuff<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=039<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Cute Charm<br />
|move1=Defense Curl|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Rollout|move2type=Rock}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Marill<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=183<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|ability=Huge Power<br />
|move1=Defense Curl|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Rollout|move2type=Rock}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Spheal<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=363<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Ice|type2=Water<br />
|ability=Thick Fat<br />
|move1=Defense Curl|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Rollout|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=Ice Ball|move3type=Ice}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Hunter.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Tiruk<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Gulpin<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=316<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Poison<br />
|ability=Liquid Ooze<br />
|move1=Bullet Seed|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=Poison Gas|move2type=Poison}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Doduo<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=084<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Fury Attack|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Supersonic|move2type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b color}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Aipom<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=190<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Run Away<br />
|move1=DoubleSlap|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Screech|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Fury Swipes|move3type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Corsola<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=222<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Rock<br />
|ability=Hustle<br />
|move1=Icicle Spear|move1type=Ice<br />
|move2=Light Screen|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Spike Cannon|move3type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Researcher.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Researcher<br />
|classlink=Scientist (Trainer class)<br />
|name=Foss<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Bagon<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=371<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Dragon<br />
|ability=Rock Head<br />
|move1=Rage|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Twister|move2type=Dragon<br />
|move3=Bite|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=Leer|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Larvitar<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=246<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Ground<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Sandstorm|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Curse|move3type=???<br />
|move4=Rock Smash|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b color}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Carvanha<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=318<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Dark<br />
|ability=Rough Skin<br />
|move1=Bite|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Focus Energy|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Scary Face|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Rage|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Snubbull<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=209<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Bite|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Lick|move2type=Ghost<br />
|move3=Scary Face|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Bulk Up|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
Defeating all the Trainers will earn the player {{PDollar}}2,880 and {{TM|05|Roar}}.<br />
<br />
==Trivia==<br />
* {{tc|Chaser}} Resila, the first Trainer of Pyrite Colosseum in [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]], uses two {{p|Pichu}}, a {{p|Teddiursa}}, and a {{p|Smoochum}}, all of which are members of the {{DL|Pichu Brothers|Pichu Posse}} in the {{pkmn|anime}}.<br />
<br />
==In other languages==<br />
{{langtable|color={{locationcolor/light|mountain}}|bordercolor={{locationcolor/dark|mountain}}<br />
|fr=Colosseum Pyrite<br />
|de=Colosseum Pyritus<br />
|it=Arena di Sulfuria<br />
|es=Coliseo de Pirita<br />
}}<br />
{{-}}<br />
{{Orre}}<br><br />
{{Project Locations notice}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Colosseum locations]]<br />
[[Category:XD locations]]<br />
<br />
[[de:Colosseum Pyritus]]<br />
[[es:Coliseo Pirita]]<br />
[[fr:Colosseum de Pyrite]]<br />
[[ja:パイラコロシアム]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pyrite_Colosseum&diff=3565394Pyrite Colosseum2022-09-04T03:52:03Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* Round 4 */ Fixed incorrectly labeled typing of the move Rest on Sellis' Taillow.</p>
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<div>{{Infobox location<br />
|type=mountain<br />
|image=Pyrite Colosseum.png<br />
|size=220px<br />
|location_name=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|japanese_name=パイラコロシアム<br />
|translated_name=Pyra Colosseum<br />
|location=[[Pyrite Town]]<br />
|region=Orre<br />
|generation={{gen|III}}<br />
|map=Orre Pyrite Town Map.png<br />
|mapsize=250px<br />
}}<br />
'''Pyrite Colosseum''' (Japanese: '''パイラコロシアム''' ''Pyra Colosseum'') is the Colosseum in [[Pyrite Town]] in the [[Orre]] region. It appears in {{g|Colosseum}} and {{g|XD: Gale of Darkness}}. It is run by [[Duking]] and powered by the nearby windmill-driven power station.<br />
<br />
==Items==<br />
{{itlisth|mountain}}<br />
{{itemlist|TM Poison|Reward for clearing the Colosseum while it's under [[Miror B.]]'s control|Colo=yes|display={{TM|06|Toxic}}}}<br />
{{itemlist|TM Fighting|Reward for clearing Round 1 for the first time|Colo=yes|display={{TM|01|Focus Punch}}}}<br />
{{itemlist|TM Ice|Reward for clearing Round 2 for the first time|Colo=yes|display={{TM|07|Hail}}}}<br />
{{itemlist|TM Normal|Reward for clearing Round 3{{sup/ss|Colo}}/4{{sup/ss|XD}} for the first time|Colo=yes|XD=yes|display={{TM|05|Roar}}}}<br />
{{itemlist|TM Fighting|Reward for clearing Round 4{{sup/ss|Colo}}/1{{sup/ss|XD}} for the first time|Colo=yes|XD=yes|display={{TM|31|Brick Break}}}}<br />
{{itemlist|TM Dark|Reward for clearing Round 2 for the first time|XD=yes|display={{TM|12|Taunt}}}}<br />
{{itemlist|TM Dark|Reward for clearing Round 3 for the first time|XD=yes|display={{TM|41|Torment}}}}<br />
{{itlistfoot|mountain}}<br />
<br />
==Trainers==<br />
===Pokémon Colosseum===<br />
In {{g|Colosseum}}, {{tc|Cipher Admin}} [[Miror B.]] is behind a secret operation handing out [[Shadow Pokémon]] to winners of the tournament. After Miror B. is defeated at his hideout in [[Pyrite Cave]], the Colosseum returns to normal operation under Duking.<br />
<br />
====Story Mode====<br />
All Story Mode Colosseum challenges are conducted in [[Double Battle]] format.<br />
<br />
=====Before defeating Miror B.=====<br />
The {{player}} must clear this gauntlet to gain access to the [[Pyrite Bldg]].<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Hunter m.png{{!}}80px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Hoks<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Barboach<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=339<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=30<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Ground<br />
|ability=Oblivious<br />
|move1=Water Gun|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Secret Power|move2type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Sandshrew<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=027<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=31<br />
|type1=Ground<br />
|ability=Sand Veil<br />
|move1=Poison Sting|move1type=Poison<br />
|move2=Scratch|move2type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Chaser f 2.png{{!}}90px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Tisler<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Natu<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=177<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=30<br />
|type1=Psychic|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Leer|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Peck|move2type=Flying}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Meditite<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=307<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=30<br />
|type1=Fighting|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Pure Power<br />
|move1=Confusion|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Hidden Power|move2type=Fighting}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Bandana Guy.png{{!}}70px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Bandana Guy<br />
|name=Vilch<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Electrike<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=309<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=30<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Howl|move2type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Cacnea<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=331<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=31<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|ability=Sand Veil<br />
|move1=Poison Sting|move1type=Poison<br />
|move2=Absorb|move2type=Grass}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Vulpix<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=037<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=32<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|ability=Flash Fire<br />
|move1=Ember|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Bodybuilder m 3.png{{!}}85px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Bodybuilder<br />
|name=Mirez<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=371<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Bagon<br />
|gender=male<br />
|type1=Dragon<br />
|ability=Rock Head<br />
|level=32<br />
|move1=Headbutt|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Rage|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Ember|move4type=Fire}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=118<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Goldeen<br />
|gender=female<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|ability=Water Veil<br />
|level=32<br />
|move1=Surf|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Peck|move2type=Flying<br />
|move3=Horn Attack|move3type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=081<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Magnemite<br />
|type1=Electric|type2=Steel<br />
|ability=Sturdy<br />
|level=31<br />
|move1=ThunderShock|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Metal Sound|move2type=Steel<br />
|move3=SonicBoom|move3type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=225<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Delibird<br />
|gender=female<br />
|type1=Ice|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Vital Spirit<br />
|level=34<br />
|move1=Present|move1type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
Defeating all of the Trainers earns the player {{PDollar}}4,848 and {{TM|06|Toxic}}.<br />
<br />
=====Round 1 (after defeating Miror B.)=====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Roller Boy.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Roller Boy<br />
|name=Azal<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Linoone<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=264<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=51<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Pickup<br />
|move1=Headbutt|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Surf|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Cut|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Dig|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Teddiursa<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=216<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Pickup<br />
|move1=Thrash|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Leer|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Fury Swipes|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Faint Attack|move4type=Dark}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Rider f.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Rider<br />
|name=Trona<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Delcatty<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=301<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Cute Charm<br />
|move1=DoubleSlap|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Shock Wave|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Rock Smash|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Frustration|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Jigglypuff<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=039<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=51<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Cute Charm<br />
|move1=DoubleSlap|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Rollout|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=Brick Break|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Pound|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Bodybuilder m 1.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Bodybuilder<br />
|name=Becher<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Doduo<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=084<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Run Away<br />
|move1=Rage|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Pursuit|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Fury Attack|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Steel Wing|move4type=Steel}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Loudred<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=294<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=51<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Soundproof<br />
|move1=Overheat|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Uproar|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Astonish|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Stomp|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Furret<br />
|ndex=162<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Keen Eye<br />
|move1=Facade|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Dig|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Quick Attack|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Assist|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser m.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Zime<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Vigoroth<br />
|ndex=288<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Vital Spirit<br />
|move1=Slash|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Protect|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Brick Break|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Reversal|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Combusken<br />
|ndex=256<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=55<br />
|type1=Fire|type2=Fighting<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Blaze<br />
|move1=Overheat|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Double Kick|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Rock Tomb|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Dig|move4type=Ground}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Koffing<br />
|ndex=109<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|gender=female<br />
|type1=Poison<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Explosion|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Sludge|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Psywave|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Shadow Ball|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Swellow<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=277<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=54<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Sky Attack|move1type=Flying<br />
|move2=Aerial Ace|move2type=Flying<br />
|move3=Endeavor|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
Defeating all of the Trainers earns the player {{PDollar}}6,308 and {{TM|01|Focus Punch}}.<br />
<br />
=====Round 2=====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Hunter f.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Muna<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Shroomish<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=285<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=51<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|ability=Effect Spore<br />
|move1=Growth|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Snatch|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Bullet Seed|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Frustration|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Oddish<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=043<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=51<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Poison<br />
|ability=Chlorophyll<br />
|move1=Acid|move1type=Poison<br />
|move2=Absorb|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Flail|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Frustration|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser m.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Kell<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Roselia<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=315<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Poison<br />
|ability=Poison Point<br />
|move1=Spikes|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Poison Sting|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Sludge Bomb|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Shadow Ball|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Lileep<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=345<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Grass<br />
|ability=Suction Cups<br />
|move1=AncientPower|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Constrict|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Stockpile|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Spit Up|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Spinda<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=327<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=51<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Own Tempo<br />
|move1=Thrash|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Dig|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Faint Attack|move3type=Dark}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Bodybuilder m 1.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Bodybuilder<br />
|name=Torf<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Cacnea<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=331<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|ability=Sand Veil<br />
|move1=DynamicPunch|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Faint Attack|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Needle Arm|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Cotton Spore|move4type=Grass}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Gloom<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=044<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Poison<br />
|ability=Chlorophyll<br />
|move1=Razor Leaf|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=Sludge Bomb|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Cut|move3type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Machop<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=066<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=DynamicPunch|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Karate Chop|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=SmellingSalt|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Low Kick|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Rider m.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Rider<br />
|name=Ligam<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Grovyle<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=253<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|ability=Overgrow<br />
|move1=Fury Cutter|move1type=Bug<br />
|move2=Pursuit|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=SolarBeam|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Slam|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Nuzleaf<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=274<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Dark<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Explosion|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Giga Drain|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Nature Power|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Razor Wind|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Lairon<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=305<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|type1=Steel|type2=Rock<br />
|ability=Rock Head<br />
|move1=Headbutt|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Metal Claw|move2type=Steel<br />
|move3=Body Slam|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
Defeating all of the Trainers earns the player {{PDollar}}7,208 and {{TM|07|Hail}}.<br />
<br />
=====Round 3=====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Rider m.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Rider<br />
|name=Vorem<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Baltoy<br />
|ndex=343<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=51<br />
|type1=Ground|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Selfdestruct|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Psybeam|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Rock Tomb|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Dig|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Hoothoot<br />
|ndex=163<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Insomnia<br />
|move1=Sky Attack|move1type=Flying<br />
|move2=Aerial Ace|move2type=Flying<br />
|move3=Shadow Ball|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Numel<br />
|ndex=322<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Oblivious<br />
|move1=Overheat|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Stomp|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Amnesia|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Focus Energy|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Bodybuilder f.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Bodybuilder<br />
|name=Seben<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Rhyhorn<br />
|ndex=111<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Ground|type2=Rock<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Rock Head<br />
|move1=Stomp|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Fury Attack|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Rock Slide|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Meditite<br />
|ndex=307<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|gender=male<br />
|type1=Fighting|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Pure Power<br />
|move1=DynamicPunch|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Bide|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Detect|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Strength|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Hunter f.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Athon<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Graveler<br />
|ndex=075<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|gender=female<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Ground<br />
|ability=Sturdy<br />
|move1=Explosion|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Rock Throw|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=Secret Power|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Rollout|move4type=Rock}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Pupitar<br />
|ndex=247<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=54<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Shed Skin<br />
|move1=Thrash|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Sandstorm|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Secret Power|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Roller Boy.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Roller Boy<br />
|name=Arez<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Gligar<br />
|ndex=207<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=55<br />
|type1=Ground|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Hyper Cutter<br />
|move1=Metal Claw|move1type=Steel<br />
|move2=Slash|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Faint Attack|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=Aerial Ace|move4type=Flying}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Pelipper<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=279<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Keen Eye<br />
|move1=Ice Beam|move1type=Ice<br />
|move2=Facade|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Wing Attack|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Surf|move4type=Water}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Shelgon<br />
|ndex=372<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=54<br />
|type1=Dragon<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Rock Head<br />
|move1=Twister|move1type=Dragon<br />
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=DragonBreath|move3type=Dragon<br />
|move4=Frustration|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Quagsire<br />
|ndex=195<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|gender=male<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Ground<br />
|ability=Water Absorb<br />
|move1=Slam|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Mud Shot|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Waterfall|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Sludge Bomb|move4type=Poison}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
Defeating all of the Trainers earns the player {{PDollar}}5,972 and {{TM|05|Roar}}.<br />
<br />
=====Round 4=====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Bodybuilder m 1.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Bodybuilder<br />
|name=Gano<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Minun<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=312<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=51<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Minus<br />
|move1=Spark|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Shock Wave|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Quick Attack|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Helping Hand|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Pikachu<br />
|ndex=025<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|gender=male<br />
|move1=Reversal|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Shock Wave|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Focus Punch|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Strength|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo St.Performer.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=St.Performer<br />
|name=Balton<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Wailmer<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=320<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|ability=Water Veil<br />
|move1=Thrash|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Rollout|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=Splash|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Whirlpool|move4type=Water}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Voltorb<br />
|ndex=100<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Soundproof<br />
|move1=Charge|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Spark|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Rollout|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Torment|move4type=Dark}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Hunter m.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Argel<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Larvitar<br />
|ndex=246<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Ground<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|gender=male<br />
|move1=Outrage|move1type=Dragon<br />
|move2=Rock Slide|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=Taunt|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=Rock Smash|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Magnemite<br />
|ndex=081<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|type1=Electric|type2=Steel<br />
|ability=Magnet Pull<br />
|move1=Lock-On|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Zap Cannon|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Secret Power|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Tackle|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Chinchou<br />
|ndex=170<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=54<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Electric<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Volt Absorb<br />
|move1=Waterfall|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Ice Beam|move2type=Ice<br />
|move3=Flail|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Frustration|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Rider f.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Rider<br />
|name=Heral<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Electrode<br />
|ndex=101<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=54<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Soundproof<br />
|move1=Explosion|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Thunderbolt|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Screech|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Lunatone<br />
|ndex=337<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=54<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Explosion|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Psywave|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Rock Throw|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Machoke<br />
|ndex=067<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=54<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=DynamicPunch|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Vital Throw|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Foresight|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Ampharos<br />
|ndex=181<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=55<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=ThunderPunch|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Strength|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Odor Sleuth|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
Defeating all of the Trainers earns the player {{PDollar}}7,020 and {{TM|31|Brick Break}}.<br />
<br />
=====Subsequent Rounds=====<br />
After round 4 has been beaten, the cycle is restarted with round 1. The player will fight the same trainers and get the same cash reward, although no TM will be awarded for replaying a round.<br />
<br />
====Battle Mode====<br />
{{main|Battle Mode (Colosseum)}}<br />
<br />
=====Single Battle=====<br />
{{main|Pyrite Colosseum/Battle Mode Single}}<br />
<br />
=====Double Battle=====<br />
{{main|Pyrite Colosseum/Battle Mode Double}}<br />
<br />
===Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness===<br />
In {{Pokémon XD}}, if the [[Miror Radar]] goes off, [[Miror B.]] may appear here, replacing one of the regular Trainers and carrying a [[Shadow Pokémon]] the player previously failed to [[Snagging|snag]]. There is also a knockout challenge in Pyrite Colosseum.<br />
<br />
====Round 1====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser f1.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Resila<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Teddiursa<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=216<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Pickup<br />
|move1=Fake Tears|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Fury Swipes|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Lick|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Metal Claw|move4type=Steel}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Pichu<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=172<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Light Screen|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Shock Wave|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Present|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Thunder Wave|move4type=Electric}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b color}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Smoochum<br />
|ndex=238<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Ice|type2=Psychic<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Oblivious<br />
|move1=Powder Snow|move1type=Ice<br />
|move2=Pound|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Attract|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Sweet Kiss|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Pichu<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=172<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Charm|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Shock Wave|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Sweet Kiss|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Tail Whip|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Sailor.png{{!}}96px<br />
|class=Sailor<br />
|name=Monar<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Chikorita<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=152<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|ability=Overgrow<br />
|move1=PoisonPowder|move1type=Poison<br />
|move2=Razor Leaf|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Ingrain|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Attract|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Cyndaquil<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=155<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|ability=Blaze<br />
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=SmokeScreen|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Ember|move3type=Fire<br />
|move4=Leer|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Totodile<br />
|ndex=158<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Torrent<br />
|move1=Bite|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Mud Sport|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Water Pulse|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Leer|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser m.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Rafert<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Ralts<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=280<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Psychic<br />
|ability=Synchronize<br />
|move1=Will-O-Wisp|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Mean Look|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Attract|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Destiny Bond|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Duskull<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=355<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Ghost<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Confuse Ray|move1type=Ghost<br />
|move2=Pain Split|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Disable|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Astonish|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b color}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Poochyena<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=261<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Dark<br />
|ability=Run Away<br />
|move1=Yawn|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Poison Fang|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Sand-Attack|move3type=Ground<br />
|move4=Covet|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Taillow<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=276<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Double Team|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Wing Attack|move2type=Flying<br />
|move3=Attract|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Supersonic|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser f2.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Jupex<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Plusle<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=311<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Plus<br />
|move1=Shock Wave|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Helping Hand|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Thunder Wave|move4type=Electric}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Snubbull<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=209<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Water Pulse|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Counter|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=SmellingSalt|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Lick|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Minun<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=312<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Minus<br />
|move1=Spark|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Metronome|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Helping Hand|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Attract|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
Defeating all the Trainers will earn the player {{pdollar}}3,040 and {{TM|31|Brick Break}}.<br />
<br />
====Round 2====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Hunter.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Haxer<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Ledyba<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=165<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Swarm<br />
|move1=Light Screen|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Silver Wind|move2type=Bug<br />
|move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Swift|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Mareep<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=179<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Light Screen|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=ThunderShock|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Facade|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Wooper<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=194<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|type2=Ground<br />
|ability=Water Absorb<br />
|move1=AncientPower|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Mud-Slap|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Water Gun|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Safeguard|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser f1.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Mestil<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Cleffa<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=173<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|ability=Cute Charm<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|move1=Sweet Kiss|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Metronome|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Pound|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Charm|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Pichu<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=172<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Sweet Kiss|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=ThunderShock|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Thunder Wave|move3type=Electric<br />
|move4=Charm|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b color}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Smoochum<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=238<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Ice<br />
|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Oblivious<br />
|move1=Lick|move1type=Ghost<br />
|move2=Sweet Kiss|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Attract|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Ice Punch|move4type=Ice}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Togepi<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=175<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Serene Grace<br />
|move1=Sweet Kiss|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Metronome|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Peck|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Charm|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser m.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Novil<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Seedot<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=273<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|ability=Chlorophyll<br />
|move1=Sunny Day|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Synthesis|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Leech Seed|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Harden|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Castform<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=351<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Forecast<br />
|move1=Powder Snow|move1type=Ice<br />
|move2=Water Gun|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Ember|move3type=Fire<br />
|move4=Swift|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Lotad<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=270<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|type2=Grass<br />
|ability=Swift Swim<br />
|move1=Rain Dance|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Astonish|move2type=Ghost<br />
|move3=Razor Leaf|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Mist|move4type=Ice}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Researcher.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Researcher<br />
|classlink=Scientist (Trainer class)<br />
|name=Orill<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Makuhita<br />
|ndex=296<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|ability=Thick Fat|gender=male<br />
|move1=Fake Out|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Vital Throw|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Tackle|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Sand-Attack|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Magnemite<br />
|ndex=081<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|type2=Steel<br />
|ability=Sturdy<br />
|move1=SonicBoom|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Supersonic|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=ThunderShock|move3type=Electric<br />
|move4=Metal Sound|move4type=Steel}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Meditite<br />
|ndex=307<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Pure Power|gender=male<br />
|move1=Fake Out|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Meditate|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Confusion|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Bide|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
Defeating all the Trainers will earn the player {{pdollar}}3,040 and {{TM|12|Taunt}}.<br />
<br />
====Round 3====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Hunter.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Nostal<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Rhyhorn<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=111<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Ground|type2=Rock<br />
|ability=Lightningrod<br />
|move1=Thunder|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Blizzard|move2type=Ice<br />
|move3=Fire Blast|move3type=Fire<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Wingull<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=278<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Keen Eye<br />
|move1=Wing Attack|move1type=Flying<br />
|move2=Water Pulse|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Shock Wave|move3type=Electric<br />
|move4=Twister|move4type=Dragon}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Roselia<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=315<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Poison<br />
|ability=Natural Cure<br />
|move1=Mega Drain|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=Sweet Scent|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Stun Spore|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Growth|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser f1.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Ostix<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Smeargle<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=235<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Own Tempo<br />
|move1=Follow Me|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Thrash|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Flail|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Metronome|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Sentret<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=161<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Keen Eye<br />
|move1=Helping Hand|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Assist|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Thief|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Skitty<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=300<br />
|game=XD<br />
|held=Persim Berry<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Cute Charm<br />
|move1=Helping Hand|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Assist|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Covet|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Endure|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser m.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Tarbil<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Spinda<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=327<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Own Tempo<br />
|move1=Teeter Dance|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Psych Up|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Swagger|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Brick Break|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Trapinch<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=328<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Ground<br />
|ability=Arena Trap<br />
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Dig|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Swagger|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Bite|move4type=Dark}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Spoink<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=325<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Psychic<br />
|ability=Own Tempo<br />
|move1=Psych Up|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Psywave|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Bounce|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Swagger|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Sailor.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Sailor<br />
|name=Tebu<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Stantler<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=234<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Spite|move1type=Ghost<br />
|move2=Sand-Attack|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Astonish|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Roar|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Snubbull<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=209<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Bite|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Thief|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Attract|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Roar|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Hitmontop<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=237<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Rock Smash|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Mind Reader|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Rapid Spin|move3type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
Defeating all the Trainers will earn the player {{pdollar}}2,880 and {{TM|41|Torment}}.<br />
<br />
====Round 4====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser f2.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Sellis<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Taillow<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=276<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Mud-Slap|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Rest|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Peck|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Snore|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Natu<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=177<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Psychic|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Synchronize<br />
|move1=Thunder Wave|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Future Sight|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Swift|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=FeatherDance|move4type=Flying}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b color}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Torchic<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=255<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
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|move1=Seismic Toss|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Fire Spin|move3type=Fire<br />
|move4=Sunny Day|move4type=Fire}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Swablu<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=333<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
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|ability=Natural Cure<br />
|move1=Fury Attack|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Sing|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Astonish|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Double Team|move4type=Normal}}<br />
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{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
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|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD_Sailor.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Sailor<br />
|name=Mifis<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Jigglypuff<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=039<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Cute Charm<br />
|move1=Defense Curl|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Rollout|move2type=Rock}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Marill<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=183<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|ability=Huge Power<br />
|move1=Defense Curl|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Rollout|move2type=Rock}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Spheal<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=363<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Ice|type2=Water<br />
|ability=Thick Fat<br />
|move1=Defense Curl|move1type=Normal<br />
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|move3=Ice Ball|move3type=Ice}}<br />
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{{Party/Single<br />
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|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Tiruk<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Gulpin<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=316<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Poison<br />
|ability=Liquid Ooze<br />
|move1=Bullet Seed|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=Poison Gas|move2type=Poison}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Doduo<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=084<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Fury Attack|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Supersonic|move2type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b color}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Aipom<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=190<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Run Away<br />
|move1=DoubleSlap|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Screech|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Fury Swipes|move3type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Corsola<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=222<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Rock<br />
|ability=Hustle<br />
|move1=Icicle Spear|move1type=Ice<br />
|move2=Light Screen|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Spike Cannon|move3type=Normal}}<br />
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{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Researcher.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Researcher<br />
|classlink=Scientist (Trainer class)<br />
|name=Foss<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Bagon<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=371<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Dragon<br />
|ability=Rock Head<br />
|move1=Rage|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Twister|move2type=Dragon<br />
|move3=Bite|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=Leer|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Larvitar<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=246<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Ground<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Sandstorm|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Curse|move3type=???<br />
|move4=Rock Smash|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b color}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Carvanha<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=318<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Dark<br />
|ability=Rough Skin<br />
|move1=Bite|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Focus Energy|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Scary Face|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Rage|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Snubbull<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=209<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Bite|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Lick|move2type=Ghost<br />
|move3=Scary Face|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Bulk Up|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
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Defeating all the Trainers will earn the player {{PDollar}}2,880 and {{TM|05|Roar}}.<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
* {{tc|Chaser}} Resila, the first Trainer of Pyrite Colosseum in [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]], uses two {{p|Pichu}}, a {{p|Teddiursa}}, and a {{p|Smoochum}}, all of which are members of the {{DL|Pichu Brothers|Pichu Posse}} in the {{pkmn|anime}}.<br />
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|es=Coliseo de Pirita<br />
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[[ja:パイラコロシアム]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Eeveelution&diff=3562503Eeveelution2022-08-29T22:42:54Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* Umbreon */ Added fact about Umbreon's base stats</p>
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<div>{{Search|[[evolution]] family of {{p|Eevee}}|the [[Theme Deck]] released with the {{TCG|Skyridge}} expansion|Eeveelution (TCG)}} ''For the {{TCG|deck archetype}}, see {{TCG|Eeveelutions}}.''<br />
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[[File:Eeveelutions.png|thumb|350px|{{p|Eevee}} and the eight Eeveelutions]]<br />
'''Eeveelution''' (Japanese: '''イーブイズ''' ''EVs''<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20180927053757/https://www.pokemon.jp/special/evs_cafe/ EVs + cafe] (archived)</ref>) is a term used for the current group of eight Pokémon that [[evolution|evolve]] from {{p|Eevee}}. It is a portmanteau of the words "'''Eevee'''" and "evo'''lution'''". Its definition may be extended to include Eevee itself. It originally was an [[Appendix:Fan terminology|unofficial term used by fans]], but the term eventually passed into the realm of official usage first as a pun in the official guide of [[Pokémon Stadium 2]],<ref>[[Media:Pokémon Stadium 2 - Nintendo Player's Guide p120.jpg|Pokémon Stadium 2 guidebook]]</ref> and then later in the TCG [[Theme Deck]] {{TCG|Eeveelution}}, as well as in the game [[Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia]].<br />
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==In the games==<br />
===Generation I===<br />
In [[Generation I]], Eevee is obtained at the [[Celadon Condominiums|Celadon Mansion]] and can evolve into {{p|Jolteon}}, {{p|Flareon}}, or {{p|Vaporeon}} through the use of an [[Evolution stone]].<br />
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====Eevee====<br />
{| style="float:right"<br />
| {{Compare|name=Eevee|type=Normal|ndex=133|ab=Run Away|ab2=Adaptability|abd=Anticipation|HP=55|Attack=55|Defense=50|SpAtk=45|SpDef=65|Speed=55}}<br />
| {{Compare|name=Eevee|type=Normal|image=133Eevee LG|forme={{color2|000|Partner Pokémon (game)|Partner}}|ab=Run Away|ab2=Adaptability|HP=65|Attack=75|Defense=70|SpAtk=65|SpDef=85|Speed=75}}<br />
|}<br />
:''Main article: {{p|Eevee}}''<br />
Eevee is the {{ga|Blue|rival}}'s starter Pokémon in {{game|Yellow}} as well as the starter Pokémon for both [[Michael]] in [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]] and the [[Hero]]/[[Heroine]] in [[Pokémon Conquest]]. In [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!|Pokémon: Let's Go, Eevee!]], an Eevee is the starter Pokémon of the {{player}}, while in [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!|Let's Go, Pikachu!]], it is the starter Pokémon of their {{ga|Trace|rival}}. While Trace always evolves his Eevee into {{p|Jolteon}}, the player's is treated as a {{ga|Partner Pokémon}} which cannot evolve. To compensate for this, the player's Partner has higher stats than a regular Eevee and can [[Move Tutor|be taught]] special moves related to the types of the other Eeveelutions.<br />
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In [[Galar]], certain Eevee, while incapable of evolving, are capable of [[Gigantamax]]ing.<br />
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====Vaporeon====<br />
{| style="float:right"<br />
| {{Compare|name=Vaporeon|type=Water|ndex=134|ab=Water Absorb|abd=Hydration|how={{color2|000|Water Stone}}|HP='''130'''|Attack=65|Defense=60|SpAtk=110|SpDef=95|Speed=65}}<br />
|}<br />
:''Main article: {{p|Vaporeon}}''<br />
'''Vaporeon''', the first of the Eeveelutions in [[National Pokédex]] order, is a {{type|Water}} Pokémon. It evolves from an Eevee that is exposed to a [[Water Stone]].<br />
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Vaporeon is the only Eeveelution that does not share any weakness with another.<br />
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====Jolteon====<br />
{| style="float:right"<br />
| {{Compare|name=Jolteon|type=Electric|ndex=135|ab=Volt Absorb|abd=Quick Feet|how={{color2|000|Thunder Stone}}|HP=65|Attack=65|Defense=60|SpAtk=110|SpDef=95|Speed='''130'''}}<br />
|}<br />
:''Main article: {{p|Jolteon}}''<br />
'''Jolteon''' is the second of the Eeveelutions, evolving from exposure to a [[Thunder Stone]], and is an {{type|Electric}} Pokémon.<br />
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Jolteon is the only Eeveelution without an obvious tail. However, in the [[The Electric Tale of Pikachu]] manga, it is shown to have a stubby tail under its spikes, although the tail is absent from its [[Generation V]] backsprite.<br />
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====Flareon====<br />
{| style="float:right"<br />
| {{Compare|name=Flareon|type=Fire|ndex=136|ab=Flash Fire|abd=Guts|how={{color2|000|Fire Stone}}|HP=65|Attack='''130'''|Defense=60|SpAtk=95|SpDef=110|Speed=65}}<br />
|}<br />
:''Main article: {{p|Flareon}}''<br />
The final member of [[Generation I]]'s Eeveelution trio is '''Flareon''', a {{type|Fire}} Pokémon, evolving from Eevee when it is exposed to a [[Fire Stone]].<br />
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Flareon is the only Eeveelution with a type advantage over more than one other Eeveelution.<br />
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===Generation II===<br />
Eevee is again available relatively early in [[Generation II]], which introduces two new Eeveelutions: {{p|Espeon}} and {{p|Umbreon}}, obtained when Eevee is leveled up with high [[friendship]] at certain times of the day. Each of [[Ecruteak City]]'s [[Kimono Girl]]s owns one of the five Eeveelutions that existed in Generation II.<br />
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Because there is no [[Time|clock system]] in {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}, Eevee cannot evolve into Espeon or Umbreon even though they exist and can be traded in from {{3v|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}.<br />
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====Espeon====<br />
{| style="float:right"<br />
| {{Compare|name=Espeon|type=Psychic|ndex=196|ab=Synchronize|abd=Magic Bounce|how=Level up with {{color2|000|friendship}} in the {{color2|000|Time|day}}<br>or level up with friendship and {{color2|000|Sun Shard}}{{sup/ss|XD}}|HP=65|Attack=65|Defense=60|SpAtk='''130'''|SpDef=95|Speed=110}}<br />
|}<br />
:''Main article: {{p|Espeon}}''<br />
The {{t|Psychic}}-type '''Espeon''' evolves from Eevee when it is raised to a friendship of 220 or higher and gains a level {{tt|during the daytime|between 12 p.m. and 11:59 p.m. in Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald}} or if the player has a [[Sun Shard]] ([[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]]). It, alongside Umbreon, is the [[starter Pokémon]] for [[Pokémon Colosseum]].<br />
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Espeon is the only Eeveelution not to have a type advantage over another at all.<br />
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====Umbreon====<br />
{| style="float:right"<br />
| {{Compare|name=Umbreon|type=Dark|ndex=197|ab=Synchronize|abd=Inner Focus|how=Level up with {{color2|000|friendship}} {{color2|000|Time|at night}}<br>or level up with friendship and {{color2|000|Moon Shard}}{{sup/ss|XD}}|HP=95|Attack=65|Defense=110|SpAtk=60|SpDef='''130'''|Speed=65}}<br />
|}<br />
:''Main article: {{p|Umbreon}}''<br />
'''Umbreon''' is the second of the two [[Generation II]] Eeveelutions, a {{type|Dark}} Pokémon. Umbreon evolves from Eevee when it has a friendship of 220 or higher and gains a level {{tt|during the nighttime|between 12 a.m. and 11:59 a.m. in Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald}} or if the player has a [[Moon Shard]] ([[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]]). It, alongside Espeon, is the [[starter Pokémon]] for [[Pokémon Colosseum]].<br />
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Umbreon is the only Eeveelution who does not have greater than a 65 base stat in either its Attack and Sp. Attack.<br />
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===Generation IV===<br />
Though no new Eeveelutions were introduced in [[Generation III]], [[Generation IV]] added another pair of new Eeveelutions, {{p|Leafeon}} and {{p|Glaceon}}, which are obtained by leveling Eevee up in certain areas, another departure from the [[methods of evolution]] in previous generations.<br />
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Because there is no [[Moss Rock]] or [[Icy Rock]] in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, Eevee cannot evolve into Leafeon or Glaceon even though they exist in those games, and can only be obtained by trading in from {{3v|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}.<br />
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====Leafeon====<br />
{| style="float:right"<br />
| {{Compare|name=Leafeon|type=Grass|ndex=470|ab=Leaf Guard|abd=Chlorophyll|how={{color2|000000|Level|Level up}} near a {{color2|000000|Moss Rock}}<br>or {{color2|000|Leaf Stone}}<sup>{{color2|000|Generation VIII|Gen VIII}}</sup>|HP=65|Attack=110|Defense='''130'''|SpAtk=60|SpDef=65|Speed=95}}<br />
|}<br />
:''Main article: {{p|Leafeon}}''<br />
'''Leafeon''' is the {{type|Grass}} evolution of Eevee. When an Eevee is leveled up near [[Moss Rock|a large, mossy rock]] (from Generations {{gen|IV}} through {{gen|VII}}) or exposed to a [[Leaf Stone]] (in [[Generation VIII]]), it will evolve into this Pokémon.<br />
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Leafeon is the only Eeveelution whose base stat in Special Defense is lower than 95.<br />
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====Glaceon====<br />
{| style="float:right"<br />
| {{Compare|name=Glaceon|type=Ice|ndex=471|ab=Snow Cloak|abd=Ice Body|how={{color2|000000|Level|Level up}} near an {{color2|000000|Ice Rock}}<br>or {{color2|000|Ice Stone}}{{sup/8|SwShLA}}|HP=65|Attack=60|Defense=110|SpAtk='''130'''|SpDef=95|Speed=65}}<br />
|}<br />
:''Main article: {{p|Glaceon}}''<br />
'''Glaceon''' is an {{type|Ice}} evolution of Eevee. Glaceon evolves from Eevee when it is leveled up near [[Ice Rock|an ice-covered rock]] (from Generations {{gen|IV}} through {{gen|VII}} and in [[Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl]]) or exposed to an [[Ice Stone]] (in [[Pokémon Sword and Shield]] and [[Pokémon Legends: Arceus]]).<br />
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===Generation VI===<br />
{| style="float:right"<br />
| {{Compare|name=Sylveon|type=Fairy|image=700Sylveon|ab=Cute Charm|abd=Pixilate|how={{color2|000|Level|Level up}} with {{color2|000|friendship}}<br>and knowing a {{color2|000|Fairy (type)|Fairy-type}} move|HP=95|Attack=65|Defense=65|SpAtk=110|SpDef='''130'''|Speed=60}}<br />
|}<br />
Eeveelutions once again skip a [[Generation V|generation]] and introduce a new evolution in [[Generation VI]]: {{p|Sylveon}}.<br />
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====Sylveon====<br />
:''Main article: {{p|Sylveon}}''<br />
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'''Sylveon''' is a {{type|Fairy}} evolution of Eevee. It evolves when leveled up with a {{type|Fairy}} move and at least two [[Affection]] hearts in [[Pokémon-Amie]] or [[Pokémon Refresh]], or in [[Generation VIII]], when leveled up with a {{type|Fairy}} move and at least 160 base happiness.<br />
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Sylveon is the only Eeveelution introduced alone in an individual generation.<br />
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==Similar movesets==<br />
{{Gameabbrev8|SwShBDSP}}<br />
{| style="background: #{{Let's Go Eevee color}}; {{roundy|10px}} border: 3px solid #{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}; margin:auto; text-align:center"<br />
|-<br />
! style="background:#{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color2|{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}|Level|Lv.}}<br />
| style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | {{MSP/8|133|Eevee}}<br>{{pcolor|Eevee|{{normal color dark}}}}<br><small>{{typecolor|Normal}}</small><br />
| style="background:#{{water color light}}" | {{MSP/8|134|Vaporeon}}<br>{{pcolor|Vaporeon|{{water color dark}}}}<br><small>{{typecolor|Water}}</small><br />
| style="background:#{{electric color light}}" | {{MSP/8|135|Jolteon}}<br>{{pcolor|Jolteon|{{electric color dark}}}}<br><small>{{typecolor|Electric}}</small><br />
| style="background:#{{fire color light}}" | {{MSP/8|136|Flareon}}<br>{{pcolor|Flareon|{{fire color dark}}}}<br><small>{{typecolor|Fire}}</small><br />
| style="background:#{{psychic color light}}" | {{MSP/8|196|Espeon}}<br>{{pcolor|Espeon|{{psychic color dark}}}}<br><small>{{typecolor|Psychic}}</small><br />
| style="background:#{{dark color light}}" | {{MSP/8|197|Umbreon}}<br>{{pcolor|Umbreon|{{dark color dark}}}}<br><small>{{typecolor|Dark}}</small><br />
| style="background:#{{grass color light}}" | {{MSP/8|470|Leafeon}}<br>{{pcolor|Leafeon|{{grass color dark}}}}<br><small>{{typecolor|Grass}}</small><br />
| style="background:#{{ice color light}};" | {{MSP/8|471|Glaceon}}<br>{{pcolor|Glaceon|{{ice color dark}}}}<br><small>{{typecolor|Ice}}</small><br />
| style="background:#{{fairy color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{MSP/8|700|Sylveon}}<br>{{pcolor|Sylveon|{{fairy color dark}}}}{{tt2|*|Sylveon is not available in Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl|{{fairy color dark}}}}<br><small>{{typecolor|Fairy}}</small><br />
|-<br />
| style="background:#{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}; text-align:right" | {{color|{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}|{{tt|Evo.|Learned upon evolving}}}}<br />
| style="background:#{{unknown color light}}; color:#{{unknown color dark}};" | N/A<br />
| style="background:#{{water color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Water Gun|{{water color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{electric color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Thunder Shock|{{electric color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{fire color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Ember|{{fire color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{psychic color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Confusion|{{psychic color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{dark color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Snarl|{{dark color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{grass color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Razor Leaf|{{grass color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{ice color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Icy Wind|{{ice color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{fairy color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Disarming Voice|{{fairy color dark}}}}'''<br />
|-<br />
| rowspan="12" style="background:#{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}; text-align:right" | {{color|{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}|1}}<br />
| colspan=9 style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Covet|{{normal color dark}}}}'''{{tt2|*|STAB only for Eevee|{{normal color dark}}}}<br />
|-<br />
| rowspan="7" style="background:#{{unknown color light}}; color:#{{unknown color dark}};" | N/A<br />
| colspan=3 style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | {{mcolor|Swift|{{normal color dark}}}}<br />
| style="background:#{{unknown color light}}; color:#{{unknown color dark}};" | N/A<br />
| colspan=3 style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | {{mcolor|Swift|{{normal color dark}}}}<br />
| style="background:#{{unknown color light}}; color:#{{unknown color dark}};" | N/A<br />
|-<br />
| colspan=2 style="background:#{{dark color light}}" | {{mcolor|Bite|{{dark color dark}}}}<br />
| style="background:#{{unknown color light}}; color:#{{unknown color dark}};" | N/A<br />
| colspan=3 style="background:#{{dark color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Bite|{{dark color dark}}}}'''{{tt2|*|STAB only for Umbreon|{{dark color dark}}}}<br />
| style="background:#{{unknown color light}}; color:#{{unknown color dark}};" | N/A<br />
| style="background:#{{dark color light}}" | {{mcolor|Bite|{{dark color dark}}}}<br />
|-<br />
| colspan=8 style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Copycat|{{normal color dark}}}}''<br />
|-<br />
| colspan=8 style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Baton Pass|{{normal color dark}}}}''<br />
|-<br />
| colspan=8 style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | {{mcolor|Take Down|{{normal color dark}}}}<br />
|-<br />
| colspan=8 style="background:#{{fairy color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Charm|{{fairy color dark}}}}''<br />
|-<br />
| colspan=8 style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | {{mcolor|Double-Edge|{{normal color dark}}}}<br />
|-<br />
| colspan=9 style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Helping Hand|{{normal color dark}}}}''<br />
|-<br />
| colspan=9 style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Tackle|{{normal color dark}}}}'''{{tt2|*|STAB only for Eevee|{{dark color dark}}}}<br />
|-<br />
| colspan=9 style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Growl|{{normal color dark}}}}''<br />
|-<br />
| colspan=9 style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Tail Whip|{{normal color dark}}}}''<br />
|-<br />
| style="background:#{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}; text-align:right" | {{color|{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}|5}}<br />
| colspan=9 style="background:#{{ground color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Sand Attack|{{ground color dark}}}}''<br />
|-<br />
| style="background:#{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}; text-align:right" | {{color|{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}|10}}<br />
| colspan=9 style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Quick Attack|{{normal color dark}}}}'''{{tt2|*|STAB only for Eevee|{{dark color dark}}}}<br />
|-<br />
| style="background:#{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}; text-align:right" | {{color|{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}|15}}<br />
| colspan=9 style="background:#{{fairy color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Baby-Doll Eyes|{{fairy color dark}}}}''<br />
|-<br />
| style="background:#{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}; text-align:right" | {{color|{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}|20}}<br />
| style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Swift|{{normal color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{ice color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Haze|{{ice color dark}}}}''<br />
| style="background:#{{electric color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Thunder Wave|{{electric color dark}}}}''<br />
| style="background:#{{poison color light}}" | {{mcolor|Smog|{{poison color dark}}}}<br />
| style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | {{mcolor|Swift|{{normal color dark}}}}<br />
| style="background:#{{ghost color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Confuse Ray|{{ghost color dark}}}}''<br />
| style="background:#{{grass color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Leech Seed|{{grass color dark}}}}''<br />
| style="background:#{{ice color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Ice Shard|{{ice color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | {{mcolor|Swift|{{normal color dark}}}}<br />
|-<br />
| style="background:#{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}; text-align:right" | {{color|{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}|25}}<br />
| style="background:#{{dark color light}}" | '''''{{mcolor|Bite|{{dark color dark}}}}'''''<br />
| style="background:#{{water color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Water Pulse|{{water color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{fighting color light}}" | {{mcolor|Double Kick|{{fighting color dark}}}}<br />
| style="background:#{{dark color light}}" | {{mcolor|Bite|{{dark color dark}}}}<br />
| style="background:#{{psychic color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Psybeam|{{psychic color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{dark color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Assurance|{{dark color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{grass color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Magical Leaf|{{grass color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{dark color light}}" | {{mcolor|Bite|{{dark color dark}}}}<br />
| style="background:#{{psychic color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Light Screen|{{psychic color dark}}}}''<br />
|-<br />
| style="background:#{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}; text-align:right" | {{color|{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}|30}}<br />
| style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Copycat|{{normal color dark}}}}''<br />
| style="background:#{{ice color light}}" | {{mcolor|Aurora Beam|{{ice color dark}}}}<br />
| style="background:#{{electric color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Thunder Fang|{{electric color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{fire color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Fire Fang|{{fire color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Morning Sun|{{normal color dark}}}}''<br />
| style="background:#{{fairy color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Moonlight|{{fairy color dark}}}}''<br />
| style="background:#{{grass color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Synthesis|{{grass color dark}}}}''<br />
| style="background:#{{ice color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Ice Fang|{{ice color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{fairy color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Draining Kiss|{{fairy color dark}}}}'''<br />
|-<br />
| style="background:#{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}; text-align:right" | {{color|{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}|35}}<br />
| style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Baton Pass|{{normal color dark}}}}''<br />
| style="background:#{{water color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Aqua Ring|{{water color dark}}}}''<br />
| style="background:#{{bug color light}}" | {{mcolor|Pin Missile|{{bug color dark}}}}<br />
| style="background:#{{fire color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Fire Spin|{{fire color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{psychic color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Power Swap|{{psychic color dark}}}}''<br />
| style="background:#{{psychic color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Guard Swap|{{psychic color dark}}}}''<br />
| style="background:#{{fire color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Sunny Day|{{fire color dark}}}}''<br />
| style="background:#{{ice color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Hail|{{ice color dark}}}}''<br />
| style="background:#{{fairy color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Misty Terrain|{{fairy color dark}}}}''<br />
|-<br />
| style="background:#{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}; text-align:right" | {{color|{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}|40}}<br />
| style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Take Down|{{normal color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{water color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Muddy Water|{{water color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{electric color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Discharge|{{electric color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{fire color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Lava Plume|{{fire color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{psychic color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Psychic|{{psychic color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{dark color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Dark Pulse|{{dark color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{grass color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Giga Drain|{{grass color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{ice color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Freeze-Dry|{{ice color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{psychic color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Skill Swap|{{psychic color dark}}}}''<br />
|-<br />
| style="background:#{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}; text-align:right" | {{color|{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}|45}}<br />
| style="background:#{{fairy color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Charm|{{fairy color dark}}}}''<br />
| style="background:#{{poison color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Acid Armor|{{poison color dark}}}}''<br />
| style="background:#{{psychic color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Agility|{{psychic color dark}}}}''<br />
| style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Scary Face|{{normal color dark}}}}''<br />
| style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Psych Up|{{normal color dark}}}}''<br />
| style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Screech|{{normal color dark}}}}''<br />
| style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Swords Dance|{{normal color dark}}}}''<br />
| style="background:#{{psychic color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Mirror Coat|{{psychic color dark}}}}''<br />
| style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Psych Up|{{normal color dark}}}}''<br />
|-<br />
| style="background:#{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}; text-align:right" | {{color|{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}|50}}<br />
| style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Double-Edge|{{normal color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{water color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Hydro Pump|{{water color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{electric color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Thunder|{{electric color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{Fire color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Flare Blitz|{{Fire color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{psychic color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Future Sight|{{psychic color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Mean Look|{{normal color dark}}}}''<br />
| style="background:#{{grass color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Leaf Blade|{{grass color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{ice color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Blizzard|{{ice color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{fairy color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Moonblast|{{fairy color dark}}}}'''<br />
|-<br />
| style="background:#{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}; text-align:right" | {{color|{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}|55}}<br />
| colspan=9 style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Last Resort|{{normal color dark}}}}'''{{tt2|*|STAB only for Eevee|{{dark color dark}}}}<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="10" style="background:#{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}; color: #{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}"| <small>Moves in '''bold''' are {{color2|{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}|Same-type attack bonus|STAB}}. Moves in ''italics'' do no damage. Moves in '''''bold italics''''' may be STAB for Eevee when it evolves.<br>{{color2|{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}|Normal (type)|Normal-type}} attacking moves are also STAB for Sylveon if it has {{acolor|Pixilate|{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}}}.</small><br />
|}<br />
<br />
{{Gameabbrev8|LA}}<br />
<br />
{| style="background: #{{Let's Go Eevee color}}; {{roundy|10px}} border: 3px solid #{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}; margin:auto; text-align:center"<br />
|-<br />
! style="background:#{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color2|{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}|Level|Lv.}}<br />
| style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | {{MSP/LA|133|Eevee}}<br>{{pcolor|Eevee|{{normal color dark}}}}<br><small>{{typecolor|Normal}}</small><br />
| style="background:#{{water color light}}" | {{MSP/LA|134|Vaporeon}}<br>{{pcolor|Vaporeon|{{water color dark}}}}<br><small>{{typecolor|Water}}</small><br />
| style="background:#{{electric color light}}" | {{MSP/LA|135|Jolteon}}<br>{{pcolor|Jolteon|{{electric color dark}}}}<br><small>{{typecolor|Electric}}</small><br />
| style="background:#{{fire color light}}" | {{MSP/LA|136|Flareon}}<br>{{pcolor|Flareon|{{fire color dark}}}}<br><small>{{typecolor|Fire}}</small><br />
| style="background:#{{psychic color light}}" | {{MSP/LA|196|Espeon}}<br>{{pcolor|Espeon|{{psychic color dark}}}}<br><small>{{typecolor|Psychic}}</small><br />
| style="background:#{{dark color light}}" | {{MSP/LA|197|Umbreon}}<br>{{pcolor|Umbreon|{{dark color dark}}}}<br><small>{{typecolor|Dark}}</small><br />
| style="background:#{{grass color light}}" | {{MSP/LA|470|Leafeon}}<br>{{pcolor|Leafeon|{{grass color dark}}}}<br><small>{{typecolor|Grass}}</small><br />
| style="background:#{{ice color light}};" | {{MSP/LA|471|Glaceon}}<br>{{pcolor|Glaceon|{{ice color dark}}}}<br><small>{{typecolor|Ice}}</small><br />
| style="background:#{{fairy color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{MSP/LA|700|Sylveon}}<br>{{pcolor|Sylveon|{{fairy color dark}}}}<br><small>{{typecolor|Fairy}}</small><br />
|-<br />
| style="background:#{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}; text-align:right" | {{color|{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}|{{tt|Evo.|Learned upon evolving}}}}<br />
| style="background:#{{unknown color light}}; color:#{{unknown color dark}};" | N/A<br />
| style="background:#{{water color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Bubble|{{water color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{electric color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Thunder Shock|{{electric color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{fire color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Ember|{{fire color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{psychic color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Confusion|{{psychic color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{dark color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Snarl|{{dark color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{grass color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Leafage|{{grass color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{ice color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Powder Snow|{{ice color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{fairy color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Fairy Wind|{{fairy color dark}}}}'''<br />
|-<br />
| style="background:#{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}; text-align:right" | {{color|{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}|1}}<br />
| colspan=9 style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Tackle|{{normal color dark}}}}'''{{tt2|*|STAB only for Eevee|{{normal color dark}}}}<br />
|-<br />
| style="background:#{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}; text-align:right" | {{color|{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}|6}}<br />
| colspan=9 style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Quick Attack|{{normal color dark}}}}'''{{tt2|*|STAB only for Eevee|{{normal color dark}}}}<br />
|-<br />
| style="background:#{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}; text-align:right" | {{color|{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}|11}}<br />
| colspan=9 style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Swift|{{normal color dark}}}}'''{{tt2|*|STAB only for Eevee|{{normal color dark}}}}<br />
|-<br />
| style="background:#{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}; text-align:right" | {{color|{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}|18}}<br />
| colspan=9 style="background:#{{fairy color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Baby-Doll Eyes|{{fairy color dark}}}}''<br />
|-<br />
| rowspan=2 style="background:#{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}; text-align:right" | {{color|{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}|25}}<br />
| colspan=9 style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Mimic|{{normal color dark}}}}''<br />
|-<br />
| style="background:#{{unknown color light}}; color:#{{unknown color dark}};" | N/A<br />
| style="background:#{{water color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Aqua Tail|{{water color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{electric color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Thunderbolt|{{electric color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{fire color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Flamethrower|{{fire color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{psychic color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Psychic|{{psychic color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{dark color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Dark Pulse|{{dark color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{grass color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Leaf Blade|{{grass color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{ice color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Ice Beam|{{ice color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{fairy color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Play Rough|{{fairy color dark}}}}'''<br />
|-<br />
| style="background:#{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}; text-align:right" | {{color|{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}|34}}<br />
| colspan=9 style="background:#{{Psychic color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Calm Mind|{{Psychic color dark}}}}''<br />
|-<br />
| style="background:#{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}; text-align:right" | {{color|{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}|34}}<br />
| colspan=9 style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Double-Edge|{{normal color dark}}}}'''{{tt2|*|STAB only for Eevee|{{normal color dark}}}}<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="10" style="background:#{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}; color: #{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}"| <small>Moves in '''bold''' are {{color2|{{Let's Go Eevee color light}}|Same-type attack bonus|STAB}}. Moves in ''italics'' do no damage.</small><br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Base stats comparison==<br />
{{groupstats/8|Let's Go Eevee|134|Vaporeon|water|130|65|60|110|95|65|135|Jolteon|electric|65|65|60|110|95|130|136|Flareon|fire|65|130|60|95|110|65|196|Espeon|psychic|65|65|60|130|95|110|197|Umbreon|dark|95|65|110|60|130|65|470|Leafeon|grass|65|110|130|60|65|95|471|Glaceon|ice|65|60|110|130|95|65|700|Sylveon|fairy|95|65|65|110|130|60}}<br />
<br />
===Averages===<br />
{{BaseStatNoCat<br />
|type=Let's Go Eevee<br />
|HP=80.63<br />
|Attack=78.13<br />
|Defense=81.88<br />
|SpAtk=100.63<br />
|SpDef=101.88<br />
|Speed=81.88<br />
|Total=525<br />
}}<br />
<br />
==In the anime==<br />
===Main series===<br />
[[File:Ilima Eevee Extreme Evoboost Eeveelutions.png|thumb|300px|Eevee and its eight evolved forms in the {{pkmn|anime}}]]<br />
In the anime, the Eeveelutions have been featured together in several episodes, most specifically in ''[[EP040|The Battling Eevee Brothers]]'' under the possession of the [[Eevee brothers]], which focused on the three [[Generation I]] Eeveelutions, as well as Eevee itself, and ''[[EP183|Trouble's Brewing]]'' under the possession of [[Sakura]] and the [[Kimono Girl]]s, which focused on the five Eeveelutions there were as of [[Generation II]], although Sakura's Espeon was still an Eevee during this episode. The seven Eeveelutions as of [[Generation IV]] were first featured together with an Eevee as a small cameo at the beginning of ''[[M11|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''. In the [[Pikachu short]] ''[[PK25|Eevee & Friends]]'', it featured Eevee with all eight of its Eeveelutions as of [[Generation VI]].<br />
<br />
In ''[[JN049|To Train, or Not to Train!]]'', the [[Eevee Evolution Lab]] is presented, a place specialized in researching Eevee and its evolutions. Chloe received an Eevee from the lab's lead researcher, [[Pinery]]. From there, Chloe and Eevee started to find several Trainers who have at least one of the Eeveelutions.<br />
* In ''[[JN063|On Land, In the Sea, and to the Future!]]'', Chloe and Eevee met [[Kiley]] and his {{p|Vaporeon}}. She also received a [[Water Stone]] from him.<br />
* In ''[[JN079|Night and Day, You are the Ones!]]'', Chloe and Eevee met [[Soleil]] and her {{p|Umbreon}} and {{p|Espeon}}.<br />
* In ''[[JN087|Breaking the Ice!]]'', Chloe and Eevee met [[Regina]] and her {{p|Glaceon}}, [[nickname]]d Mirche.<br />
* In ''[[JN094|Suffering the Flings and Arrows!]]'', Chloe and Eevee met [[Erika]] and her {{p|Leafeon}}.<br />
* In ''[[JN098|Out of Their Elements!]]'', Chloe and Eevee met [[Harmony]] and her {{p|Jolteon}}, nicknamed Bernice, and {{OBP|Billy|JN098}} and his {{p|Flareon}}, nicknamed Toril. She also received a [[Fire Stone]] and [[Thunder Stone]] from them, respectively.<br />
* In ''[[JN105|Reuniting for the First Time!]]'', Chloe and Eevee met {{an|Serena}} and her {{TP|Serena|Sylveon}}.<br />
<br />
Several important characters have owned Eevee which have gone on to evolve; other Eeveelutions have also been featured separately from their cousins.<br />
<br />
====Gary's Umbreon====<br />
{{main|Gary's Umbreon}}<br />
[[Gary Oak]] owns an {{TP|Gary|Umbreon}} that he caught as an Eevee sometime before Ash returned to [[Kanto]] from the [[Orange Archipelago]] in ''[[EP115|A Tent Situation]]''. It debut in [[EP116|the next episode]] and later evolved prior to ''[[EP171|Power Play!]]''. It is one of his main Pokémon, having appeared nearly every time he himself has, and being quite skilled in battle.<br />
<br />
====Sakura's Espeon====<br />
{{main|Sakura's Espeon}}<br />
[[Sakura]], one of the five [[Kimono Girl|Kimono Sisters]], is the owner of an {{TP|Sakura|Espeon}} that debut as an Eevee in ''[[EP183|Trouble's Brewing]]'' and later evolved prior to ''[[EP226|Espeon, Not Included]]'', while the rest of her sisters own the other four Eeveelutions that were known in [[Generation II]].<br />
<br />
====Anabel's Espeon====<br />
[[Anabel]] used an Espeon in ''[[AG170|Second Time's the Charm!]]'' during Ash's [[rematch]] with her. It was defeated by {{AP|Pikachu}}.<br />
<br />
====May's Glaceon====<br />
{{main|May's Glaceon}}<br />
{{an|May}}, who is the first main anime character to have owned an Eevee, received hers as an [[Pokémon Egg|Egg]] in ''[[AG150|May's Egg-Cellent Adventure]]''. Eevee hatched in ''[[AG157|Time Warp Heals All Wounds]]'' and later evolved into a {{TP|May|Glaceon}} sometime prior to ''[[DP076|A Full Course Tag Battle!]]'' during a visit to [[Sinnoh]] to compete in the [[Wallace Cup]].<br />
<br />
====Johanna's Umbreon====<br />
[[Johanna]] has an Umbreon that debuted in ''[[DP138|Strategy Begins at Home!]]''. It joined {{TP|Johanna|Glameow}} to help train against its Trainer's daughter: Dawn. It later did the same in [[DPS01]].<br />
<br />
====Zoey's Leafeon====<br />
[[Zoey]] has a Leafeon that debuted in ''[[DP155|Double-Time Battle Training!]]''. It was used in a practice [[Double Battle]] along with {{p|Kirlia}}. It reappeared in ''[[DP176|Coming Full-Festival Circle!]]'', where it was used in the [[Contest Battle|Battle Stage]] of the [[Sinnoh Grand Festival]]. It faced off against [[Nando's Kricketune]] and {{p|Lopunny}} alongside {{p|Mismagius}} and won.<br />
<br />
====Ursula's Vaporeon and Flareon====<br />
[[Ursula]] used two Eevee in the [[Appeal|Performance Stage]] of the [[Sinnoh Grand Festival]] in ''[[DP174|Last Call — First Round!]]''. She evolved them into Vaporeon and Flareon as part of the act.<br />
<br />
====Volkner's Jolteon====<br />
[[Volkner]] used a Jolteon during his battle against Ash in ''[[DP179|The Eighth Wonder of the Sinnoh World!]]''. It battled and lost to {{AP|Infernape}}. It is the first Eeveelution to be used by a [[Gym Leader]] in the anime.<br />
<br />
====Cynthia's Glaceon====<br />
[[Cynthia]] used a Glaceon in ''[[BW085|All for the Love of Meloetta!]]'' to freeze part of a river. She and {{Ash}} then broke up the ice so it could be used to cool down a sick {{an|Meloetta}}.<br />
<br />
====Virgil's team====<br />
[[Virgil]] owns an Eevee and every one of its then-known final forms. They debuted together in ''[[BW102|Team Eevee and the Pokémon Rescue Squad!]]'' where he used them in his mountain rescue duties. He also used them to fight through the [[Vertress Conference]], which he won.<br />
<br />
====''[[PK25|Eevee & Friends]]'' Eeveelutions====<br />
The [[Pikachu short]] for ''[[M16|Genesect and the Legend Awakened]]'' featured every Eeveelution, including the newly revealed {{p|Sylveon}}.<br />
<br />
====Valerie's Sylveon====<br />
[[Valerie]] has a Sylveon that debuted in ''[[XY073|A Fashionable Battle!]]''. She used it in ''[[XY074|Fairy-Type Trickery!]]'' in Ash's Gym battle, where it battled and lost to {{AP|Fletchinder}}.<br />
<br />
====Serena's Sylveon====<br />
{{main|Serena's Sylveon}}<br />
{{an|Serena}} caught her {{TP|Serena|Sylveon}} as an Eevee in ''[[XY089|A Frolicking Find in the Flowers!]]''. Her Eevee later evolved in ''[[XY105|Party Dancecapades!]]'' during a [[Multi Battle|Tag Battle]] alongside [[Ash's Pikachu]] against [[Miette]]'s {{p|Slurpuff}} and [[James's Inkay]].<br />
<br />
====Gladion's Umbreon====<br />
{{main|Gladion's Umbreon}}<br />
{{an|Gladion}} and his {{TP|Gladion|Umbreon}} debuted in ''[[SM027|A Glaring Rivalry!]]'', and its usually [[Walking Pokémon|walking]] alongside its Trainer. A flashback in the same episode reveals that Gladion had his Umbreon since it was an Eevee, after he found it injured near its house when he was younger.<br />
<br />
====Ilima's Eevee====<br />
[[Ilima]] and his Eevee debuted in ''[[SM065|Turning Heads and Training Hard!]]''. With the help of his [[Z-Ring]] and [[Eevium Z]], Ilima and Eevee can perform the [[Z-Move]] {{m|Extreme Evoboost}}.<br />
<br />
====Sandy====<br />
{{main|Sandy}}<br />
A {{pkmn2|wild}} Eevee with shaggy hair made its debut after the airing of ''[[SM093|Lillier and the Staff!]]'', in the [[Where Are You Going, Eevee?#Episode 1|first episode]] of the titular [[Where Are You Going, Eevee?]]. It made its main series debut in ''[[SM099|We Know Where You're Going, Eevee!]]'', where it was caught by {{an|Lana}} and given the [[nickname]] [[Sandy]].<br />
<br />
====Chloe's Eevee====<br />
{{main|Chloe's Eevee}}<br />
Chloe caught her Eevee in ''[[JN049|To Train, or Not to Train!]]''. Chloe's Eevee is the first female of her {{OBP|Pokémon|species|species}} with a visible [[List of Pokémon with gender differences|gender difference]] in the anime. What makes her Eevee unique is that she is unable to evolve. The reason why is unknown.<br />
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====Pokédex entries====<br />
{{Animedexheader|Kanto|no}}<br />
{{Animedexbody|EP040|Eevee's evolution|Ash's Pokédex|Eevee evolves into one of three Pokémon, depending on what [[Evolution stone|stone]] is used on it:<br><br />
Using a [[Fire Stone]] will yield {{p|Flareon}}, the Flame Pokémon.<br><br />
A [[Water Stone]] yields {{p|Vaporeon}}, the Bubble Jet Pokémon.<br><br />
A [[Thunder Stone]] yields {{p|Jolteon}}, the Lightning Pokémon.}}<br />
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|Kanto}}<br />
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====Gallery====<br />
<gallery><br />
File:Lady Eeveelutions.png|Eeveelutions as seen in ''[[M11|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''<br />
Virgil Eeveelutions.png|Eeveelutions as seen in ''[[BW102|Team Eevee and the Pokémon Rescue Squad!]]''<br />
PokéTV XY095.png|Eeveelutions as seen in the [[Poké TV]] segment<br />
PK25 Eeveelutions.png|Eeveelutions as seen in ''[[PK25|Eevee & Friends]]''<br />
</gallery><br />
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===Pokémon Evolutions===<br />
All Eeveelutions introduced prior to [[Generation IV]] appeared in ''[[PE07|The Show]]'', under the ownership of the [[Kimono Girl]]s.<br />
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A {{p|Jolteon}} appeared in ''[[PE08|The Discovery]]'', under the ownership of {{ga|Trace}}.<br />
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====Gallery====<br />
<gallery><br />
Kuni Vaporeon Evolutions.png|{{p|Vaporeon}} in Pokémon Evolutions<br />
Miki Flareon Evolutions.png|{{p|Flareon}} in Pokémon Evolutions<br />
Trace Jolteon Evolutions.png|{{p|Jolteon}} in Pokémon Evolutions<br />
Zuki Umbreon Evolutions.png|{{p|Umbreon}} in Pokémon Evolutions<br />
Naoko Espeon Evolutions.png|{{p|Espeon}} in Pokémon Evolutions<br />
</gallery><br />
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==In the manga==<br />
[[File:Vee Eeveelutions.png|thumb|250px|Eevee and the original three Eeveelutions in [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]<br />
===Electric Tale of Pikachu===<br />
In ''[[ET06|To Evolve or Not to Evolve, That is the Question!]]'', {{OBP|Ash Ketchum|EToP|Ash}} helped [[Mikey]] to defeat [[Eevee brothers|his brothers]], each of whom possessed one of the original three Eeveelutions, in order for Mikey to join the [[Knights of the E Stone]].<br />
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===Pokémon Adventures===<br />
{{main|Vee}}<br />
[[Vee]] was a Pokémon [[Team Rocket]] experimented on with the use of the "Eevee Bio-Engineering Scheme". This allowed Eevee to freely evolve into any of the [[Generation I]] Eeveelutions and then [[devolution|revert]] back into its original form. After some time under {{adv|Red}}'s ownership however, Vee evolved into an {{p|Espeon}}, and the ability was eliminated.<br />
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[[Karen]]'s Umbreon, first seen in the {{chap|Gold, Silver & Crystal}}, used to be an Eevee.<br />
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The five [[Kimono Girl]]s debuted in the {{chap|HeartGold & SoulSilver}}. Each own a different Eeveelution like their game counterparts, and by the end of the chapter, recruited a Leafeon and a Glaceon.<br />
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{{adv|Y}} in the {{chap|X & Y}} caught an Eevee which she nicknamed Veevee and eventually evolved into Sylveon. This makes Y the second [[Pokédex holder]] to own an Eeveelution.<br />
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===Pokémon Gold & Silver: The Golden Boys===<br />
[[Bill]] in [[Pokémon Gold & Silver: The Golden Boys|The Golden Boys]] has an Umbreon and Espeon.<br />
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===Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure!===<br />
[[Mitsumi]] in the [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure!|manga]] owns a Glaceon, Leafeon, Espeon, and an Eevee who was held hostage by [[Cyrus]] for a brief time.<br />
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===Phantom Thief Pokémon 7===<br />
{{OBP|Lily|Pokémon 7}} in [[Phantom Thief Pokémon 7|Pokémon 7]] owns a Leafeon that was given to her by [[Nazuna]].<br />
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===Pokémon Pocket Monsters===<br />
Vaporeon, Jolteon, and Flareon were seen in the [[Pokémon Pocket Monsters|Pocket Monsters]] manga.<br />
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==In the TCG==<br />
In the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]], many sets featuring the Eeveelutions have been released. Commonly, all of them will be released within the same expansion set, much as {{TCG ID|Jungle|Flareon|3}}, {{TCG ID|Jungle|Jolteon|4}}, and {{TCG ID|Jungle|Vaporeon|12}} were originally released in the {{TCG|Jungle}} expansion.<br />
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Included with the {{TCG|Skyridge}} expansion, also, is a {{TCG|Theme Deck}} by the name of {{TCG|Eeveelution}}, which features the original three Eeveelutions as the focus. However, the deck only includes the three [[Generation I]] Eeveelutions: whereas {{TCG ID|Skyridge|Umbreon|H30}} was released in the set, Espeon was not.<br />
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There have also been several {{TCG|deck archetype|deck archetypes}} that revolve around the Eeveelutions, mostly due to their versatility and their lack of a unanimous weakness. One of the most recent is {{TCG|Eeveelutions}}, which utilizes {{TCG|Pokémon-ex|Pokémon-ex variants}} of all five then-known Eeveelutions. The use of this archetype has been assisted by the release of a great many {{TCG|Energy card}}s that provide more than one type of Energy, such as {{TCG|Rainbow Energy}}. In {{TCG|Majestic Dawn}}, {{TCG|Glaceon}} and {{TCG|Leafeon}} were introduced to the TCG; the set also included all previous Eeveelutions. The most recent expansion to include the Eevee family is {{TCG|Plasma Freeze}}, including all but Sylveon (since the set was released during [[Generation V]]). Sylveon was first introduced into the TCG in {{TCG|Furious Fists}} (if the XY Black Star Promos and the XY Trainer Kit are not counted).<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
* No Eeveelution so far has either HP or Special Defense as its lowest base stat.<br />
* A chapter of [[Magical Pokémon Journey]], ''[[PPP31|Eevee-Lu-Tion]]'', parodies this term.<br />
* The Eeveelutions were featured along with Eevee in the [[Eevee Essences Collection]].<br />
* No Eeveelution is of a type that was considered [[physical move|physical]] prior to [[Generation IV]].<br />
* [[Motofumi Fujiwara]] designed Eevee, Jolteon, and Flareon. [[Atsuko Nishida]] designed all of the other Eeveelutions.<ref>https://twitter.com/atsuko_nishida/status/783643367523557376</ref><br />
* Each Eeveelution evolves using a method that was introduced in their respective generations.<br />
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==Name origin==<br />
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{Let's Go Eevee color}}; border: 3px solid #{{Let's Go Eevee color dark}}"<br />
! Language<br />
! Name<br />
! Origin<br />
|- style="background:#FFF"<br />
| Japanese<br />
| イーブイズ ''EVs''<br />
| From イーブイ ''Eievui'' (Eevee)<br />
|- style="background:#FFF"<br />
| English<br />
| Eeveelution<br />
| From ''Eevee'' and ''evolution''<br />
|- style="background:#FFF"<br />
| French<br />
| Évolition<br />
| From ''Évoli'' (Eevee) and ''évolution'' (evolution)<br />
|- style="background:#FFF"<br />
| German<br />
| {{tt|Evoliution|Shadows of Almia}}<br>{{tt|Evolilution|TCG}}<br />
| From ''Evoli'' (Eevee) and ''evolution''<br />
|- style="background:#FFF"<br />
| Italian<br />
| Eeveeluzione<br />
| From ''Eevee'' and ''evoluzione'' (evolution)<br />
|- style="background:#FFF"<br />
| Spanish<br />
| Eeveelución<br />
| From ''Eevee'' and ''evolución'' (evolution)<br />
|- style="background:#FFF"<br />
| Korean<br />
| 이브이즈 ''Eevees''<br />
| From 이브이 ''Eevee''<br />
|- style="background:#FFF"<br />
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and Mainland China}})<br />
| 伊布家族 ''Yībù Jiāzú''<br />
| Literally means ''Eevee Family''<br />
|- style="background:#FFF"<br />
| Brazilian Portuguese<br />
| Eevolução<br />
| From ''Eevee'' and ''evolução'' (evolution)<br />
|}<br />
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==See also==<br />
* [[Hitmons]]<br />
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==References==<br />
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[[Category:Pokémon groupings]]<br />
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[[ja:ブイズ]]<br />
[[zh:伊布家族]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Battle_Bingo&diff=3559619Battle Bingo2022-08-25T04:27:48Z<p>ScottOshawott: Added Trivia section</p>
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<div>'''Battle Bingo''' (Japanese: '''バトルＤＥビンゴ''' ''Battle DE Bingo'') is a game played using Bingo Cards at [[Realgam Tower]], in [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]]. In exchange for playing the game, players can win [[Poké Coupon]]s.<br />
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==Gameplay==<br />
[[File:Battle Bingo.png|thumb|right|200px|A Bingo card with one row cleared.]]<br />
It costs 500 {{PDollar}} to look at the cards. Should the player back out before playing, they'll be refunded.<br />
===Bingo===<br />
At the start of the game, players have one {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} for which the bingo card is named that has two EP or Entry Points. Players also have two empty [[Master Ball]]s and a fourth slot with no ball or Pokémon in it.<br />
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The player can choose any panel out of the sixteen to begin at. From that panel and any other cleared panels the player has in the game, only movement to adjacent panels is allowed. When the panel is gray with a question mark on it, there is an [[item]] underneath. When it is colored and has a [[type]] name written on it, there is a Pokémon of that type and possibly a second type underneath and by moving to that panel, will have to {{pkmn|battle}} it. The player is to send in a Pokémon to this battle, and that is to have at least 1 Entry Point (EP). When it does, it can either take on the enemy Pokémon and attempt to defeat it, or the player can throw a Master Ball to {{pkmn2|caught|capture}} the enemy Pokémon. The Pokémon will then join the player's team automatically and have two EP.<br />
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By clearing lines of four, the player will move up levels on the payout for Poké Coupons. The Bingo card is cleared when all ten lines are completed.<br />
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If a card that has been cleared is replayed, its panels are shuffled randomly.<br />
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===Rewards===<br />
If a card is quit before clearing all of its lines, the player earns Poké Coupons based on the number of lines cleared. If the player has cleared all of the lines, a bonus is added for remaining EP and Master Balls. The first time clearing a card, the player is also given an item or items in reward.<br />
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===Unlocking===<br />
There are four standard difficulties of Bingo cards: Novice, Regular, Expert, and Extra. At first, only Novice cards are available; only when all cards in the current difficulty are cleared will the next difficulty be unlocked. A separate class of card, Special, is unlocked by using the [[Bonsly Card]] before the receptionist.<br />
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If the player clears all 10 of the cards in the standard difficulties, the 1-Panel Mode is unlocked. In this mode, the player's next choice must be in an adjacent panel to the one selected previously. If the player cannot make a move in this mode, the game ends. This mode also awards more Poké Coupons than the Standard Mode, however.<br />
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==Bingo cards==<br />
===Novice===<br />
Prize for clearing:<br><br />
200-250 Poké Coupons<br><br />
2 [[Ether]]s (First time only)<br />
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====Dragonair Card====<br />
{{bingocard<br />
|title=Dragonair<br />
|desc=A simple Card for learning the rules.<br />
|startnum=Box XD 148<br />
|startpokemon=Dragonair<br />
|starttype1=Dragon<br />
|startmove=Outrage<br />
|startmovetype=Dragon<br />
|spot1-1={{bingocard/entry|004|Charmander|Flamethrower|Fire}}<br />
|spot2-1={{bingocard/bonus|Master Ball}}<br />
|spot3-1={{bingocard/entry|258|Mudkip|Surf|Water}}<br />
|spot4-1={{bingocard/entry|060|Poliwag|Surf|Water}}<br />
|spot1-2={{bingocard/entry|252|Treecko|Giga Drain|Grass}}<br />
|spot2-2={{bingocard/entry|255|Torchic|Flamethrower|Fire}}<br />
|spot3-2={{bingocard/entry|315|Roselia|Giga Drain|Grass}}<br />
|spot4-2={{bingocard/entry|152|Chikorita|Giga Drain|Grass}}<br />
|spot1-3={{bingocard/entry|155|Cyndaquil|Flamethrower|Fire}}<br />
|spot2-3={{bingocard/entry|007|Squirtle|Surf|Water}}<br />
|spot3-3={{bingocard/bonus|+2EP}}<br />
|spot4-3={{bingocard/entry|158|Totodile|Surf|Water}}<br />
|spot1-4={{bingocard/bonus|+1EP}}<br />
|spot2-4={{bingocard/entry|001|Bulbasaur|Giga Drain|Grass}}<br />
|spot3-4={{bingocard/entry|223|Remoraid|Surf|Water}}<br />
|spot4-4={{bingocard/entry|037|Vulpix|Flamethrower|Fire}}}}<br />
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====3-Type Card====<br />
{{bingocard<br />
|title=3-Type<br />
|desc=Three Pokémon types are featured.<br />
|startnum=Box XD 033<br />
|startpokemon=Nidorino<br />
|starttype1=Poison<br />
|startmove=Sludge Bomb<br />
|startmovetype=Poison<br />
|spot1-1={{bingocard/entry|114|Tangela|Mega Drain|Grass}}<br />
|spot2-1={{bingocard/entry|336|Seviper|Sludge Bomb|Poison}}<br />
|spot3-1={{bingocard/entry|191|Sunkern|Giga Drain|Grass}}<br />
|spot4-1={{bingocard/entry|231|Phanpy|Earthquake|Ground}}<br />
|spot1-2={{bingocard/entry|095|Onix|Earthquake|Ground}}<br />
|spot2-2={{bingocard/bonus|Master Ball}}<br />
|spot3-2={{bingocard/entry|152|Chikorita|Giga Drain|Grass}}<br />
|spot4-2={{bingocard/entry|316|Gulpin|Sludge Bomb|Poison}}<br />
|spot1-3={{bingocard/entry|252|Treecko|Giga Drain|Grass}}<br />
|spot2-3={{bingocard/entry|088|Grimer|Sludge Bomb|Poison}}<br />
|spot3-3={{bingocard/entry|023|Ekans|Sludge Bomb|Poison}}<br />
|spot4-3={{bingocard/bonus|+1EP}}<br />
|spot1-4={{bingocard/entry|273|Seedot|Giga Drain|Grass}}<br />
|spot2-4={{bingocard/bonus|+2EP}}<br />
|spot3-4={{bingocard/entry|076|Golem|Earthquake|Ground}}<br />
|spot4-4={{bingocard/entry|027|Sandshrew|Earthquake|Ground}}}}<br />
<br />
====4-Type Card====<br />
{{bingocard<br />
|title=4-Type<br />
|desc=Four Pokémon types are featured.<br />
|startnum=Box XD 270<br />
|startpokemon=Lotad<br />
|starttype1=Water<br />
|starttype2=Grass<br />
|startmove=Giga Drain<br />
|startmovetype=Grass<br />
|spot1-1={{bingocard/bonus|+1EP}}<br />
|spot2-1={{bingocard/entry|083|Farfetch'd|Aerial Ace|Flying}}<br />
|spot3-1={{bingocard/entry|104|Cubone|Focus Punch|Ground}}<br />
|spot4-1={{bingocard/bonus|+2EP}}<br />
|spot1-2={{bingocard/entry|027|Sandshrew|Earthquake|Ground}}<br />
|spot2-2={{bingocard/entry|081|Magnemite|Spark|Electric}}<br />
|spot3-2={{bingocard/entry|231|Phanpy|Earthquake|Ground}}<br />
|spot4-2={{bingocard/entry|125|Electabuzz|Shock Wave|Electric}}<br />
|spot1-3={{bingocard/entry|021|Spearow|Aerial Ace|Flying}}<br />
|spot2-3={{bingocard/bonus|Master Ball}}<br />
|spot3-3={{bingocard/entry|084|Doduo|Aerial Ace|Flying}}<br />
|spot4-3={{bingocard/entry|273|Seedot|Giga Drain|Grass}}<br />
|spot1-4={{bingocard/entry|331|Cacnea|Needle Arm|Grass}}<br />
|spot2-4={{bingocard/entry|100|Voltorb|Thunderbolt|Electric}}<br />
|spot3-4={{bingocard/entry|102|Exeggcute|Giga Drain|Grass}}<br />
|spot4-4={{bingocard/entry|016|Pidgey|Wing Attack|Flying}}}}<br />
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===Regular===<br />
Prize for clearing:<br><br />
400-500 Poké Coupons<br><br />
[[Max Ether]] (First time only)<br />
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====Charmander Card====<br />
{{bingocard<br />
|title=Charmander<br />
|desc=A Card for practicing type matchups.<br />
|startnum=Box XD 004<br />
|startpokemon=Charmander<br />
|starttype1=Fire<br />
|startmove=Flamethrower<br />
|startmovetype=Fire<br />
|spot1-1={{bingocard/entry|231|Phanpy|Earthquake|Ground}}<br />
|spot2-1={{bingocard/entry|255|Torchic|Flamethrower|Fire}}<br />
|spot3-1={{bingocard/bonus|+1EP}}<br />
|spot4-1={{bingocard/entry|016|Pidgey|Aerial Ace|Flying}}<br />
|spot1-2={{bingocard/entry|361|Snorunt|Ice Beam|Ice}}<br />
|spot2-2={{bingocard/entry|276|Taillow|Aerial Ace|Flying}}<br />
|spot3-2={{bingocard/entry|050|Diglett|Earthquake|Ground}}<br />
|spot4-2={{bingocard/entry|056|Mankey|Brick Break|Fighting}}<br />
|spot1-3={{bingocard/bonus|+2EP}}<br />
|spot2-3={{bingocard/entry|066|Machop|Brick Break|Fighting}}<br />
|spot3-3={{bingocard/entry|021|Spearow|Drill Peck|Flying}}<br />
|spot4-3={{bingocard/entry|058|Growlithe|Flamethrower|Fire}}<br />
|spot1-4={{bingocard/entry|104|Cubone|Earthquake|Ground}}<br />
|spot2-4={{bingocard/bonus|Master Ball}}<br />
|spot3-4={{bingocard/entry|363|Spheal|Ice Beam|Ice}}<br />
|spot4-4={{bingocard/entry|296|Makuhita|Brick Break|Fighting}}}}<br />
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====Pikachu Card====<br />
{{bingocard<br />
|title=Pikachu<br />
|desc=A Card for advanced type matchups.<br />
|startnum=Box XD 025<br />
|startpokemon=Pikachu<br />
|starttype1=Electric<br />
|startmove=Thunderbolt<br />
|startmovetype=Electric<br />
|spot1-1={{bingocard/entry|050|Diglett|Earthquake|Ground}}<br />
|spot2-1={{bingocard/entry|114|Tangela|Mega Drain|Grass}}<br />
|spot3-1={{bingocard/entry|299|Nosepass|Rock Throw|Rock}}<br />
|spot4-1={{bingocard/entry|325|Spoink|Psychic|Psychic}}<br />
|spot1-2={{bingocard/bonus|+1EP}}<br />
|spot2-2={{bingocard/entry|088|Grimer|Sludge Bomb|Poison}}<br />
|spot3-2={{bingocard/entry|017|Pidgeotto|Wing Attack|Flying}}<br />
|spot4-2={{bingocard/entry|056|Mankey|Brick Break|Fighting}}<br />
|spot1-3={{bingocard/entry|037|Vulpix|Flamethrower|Fire}}<br />
|spot2-3={{bingocard/bonus|Master Ball}}<br />
|spot3-3={{bingocard/entry|060|Poliwag|Surf|Water}}<br />
|spot4-3={{bingocard/entry|261|Poochyena|Crunch|Dark}}<br />
|spot1-4={{bingocard/entry|012|Butterfree|Silver Wind|Bug}}<br />
|spot2-4={{bingocard/entry|361|Snorunt|Ice Beam|Ice}}<br />
|spot3-4={{bingocard/entry|353|Shuppet|Shadow Ball|Ghost}}<br />
|spot4-4={{bingocard/bonus|+2EP}}}}<br />
<br />
====Rock vs Flying Card====<br />
{{bingocard<br />
|title=Rock vs Flying<br />
|desc=Sudowoodo's time to shine?<br />
|startnum=Box XD 185<br />
|startpokemon=Sudowoodo<br />
|starttype1=Rock<br />
|startmove=Rock Throw<br />
|startmovetype=Rock<br />
|spot1-1={{bingocard/entry|022|Fearow|Drill Peck|Flying}}<br />
|spot2-1={{bingocard/bonus|+2EP}}<br />
|spot3-1={{bingocard/entry|226|Mantine|Surf|Flying}}<br />
|spot4-1={{bingocard/entry|006|Charizard|Flamethrower|Flying}}<br />
|spot1-2={{bingocard/entry|123|Scyther|Silver Wind|Flying}}<br />
|spot2-2={{bingocard/entry|227|Skarmory|Steel Wing|Flying}}<br />
|spot3-2={{bingocard/bonus|Master Ball}}<br />
|spot4-2={{bingocard/entry|178|Xatu|Psychic|Flying}}<br />
|spot1-3={{bingocard/bonus|+1EP}}<br />
|spot2-3={{bingocard/entry|169|Crobat|Sludge Bomb|Flying}}<br />
|spot3-3={{bingocard/entry|207|Gligar|Earthquake|Flying}}<br />
|spot4-3={{bingocard/entry|198|Murkrow|Faint Attack|Flying}}<br />
|spot1-4={{bingocard/entry|334|Altaria|DragonBreath|Flying}}<br />
|spot2-4={{bingocard/entry|142|Aerodactyl|Hyper Beam|Flying}}<br />
|spot3-4={{bingocard/entry|225|Delibird|Ice Beam|Flying}}<br />
|spot4-4={{bingocard/entry|357|Tropius|Magical Leaf|Flying}}}}<br />
<br />
===Expert===<br />
Prize for clearing:<br><br />
800-1000 Poké Coupons<br><br />
[[Elixir]] (First time only)<br />
<br />
====SOS Magikarp Card====<br />
{{bingocard<br />
|title=SOS Magikarp<br />
|desc=Can Magikarp win with Splash?<br />
|startnum=Box XD 129<br />
|startpokemon=Magikarp<br />
|starttype1=Water<br />
|startmove=Splash<br />
|startmovetype=Normal<br />
|spot1-1={{bingocard/entry|094|Gengar|Psychic|Poison}}<br />
|spot2-1={{bingocard/entry|310|Manectric|Thunderbolt|Electric}}<br />
|spot3-1={{bingocard/entry|195|Quagsire|Earthquake|Ground}}<br />
|spot4-1={{bingocard/entry|332|Cacturne|Needle Arm|Grass}}<br />
|spot1-2={{bingocard/bonus|+2EP}}<br />
|spot2-2={{bingocard/entry|105|Marowak|Rock Tomb|Ground}}<br />
|spot3-2={{bingocard/entry|171|Lanturn|Surf|Water}}<br />
|spot4-2={{bingocard/bonus|Master Ball}}<br />
|spot1-3={{bingocard/entry|101|Electrode|Thunderbolt|Electric}}<br />
|spot2-3={{bingocard/entry|024|Arbok|Sludge Bomb|Poison}}<br />
|spot3-3={{bingocard/entry|076|Golem|Rock Throw|Ground}}<br />
|spot4-3={{bingocard/entry|082|Magneton|Thunderbolt|Electric}}<br />
|spot1-4={{bingocard/entry|071|Victreebel|Razor Leaf|Grass}}<br />
|spot2-4={{bingocard/entry|073|Tentacruel|Water Pulse|Water}}<br />
|spot3-4={{bingocard/bonus|+1EP}}<br />
|spot4-4={{bingocard/entry|110|Weezing|Sludge Bomb|Poison}}}}<br />
<br />
====Waterproof Card====<br />
{{bingocard<br />
|title=Waterproof<br />
|desc=What lurks beneath the water?<br />
|startnum=Box XD 055<br />
|startpokemon=Golduck<br />
|starttype1=Water<br />
|startmove=Brick Break<br />
|startmovetype=Fighting<br />
|spot1-1={{bingocard/entry|342|Crawdaunt|Crunch|Water}}<br />
|spot2-1={{bingocard/entry|260|Swampert|Earthquake|Water}}<br />
|spot3-1={{bingocard/entry|279|Pelipper|Aerial Ace|Water}}<br />
|spot4-1={{bingocard/entry|283|Surskit|Shadow Ball|Water}}<br />
|spot1-2={{bingocard/entry|073|Tentacruel|Sludge Bomb|Water}}<br />
|spot2-2={{bingocard/entry|230|Kingdra|DragonBreath|Water}}<br />
|spot3-2={{bingocard/entry|224|Octillery|Flamethrower|Water}}<br />
|spot4-2={{bingocard/entry|171|Lanturn|Shock Wave|Water}}<br />
|spot1-3={{bingocard/entry|121|Starmie|Psychic|Water}}<br />
|spot2-3={{bingocard/entry|369|Relicanth|Rock Slide|Water}}<br />
|spot3-3={{bingocard/entry|131|Lapras|Ice Beam|Water}}<br />
|spot4-3={{bingocard/bonus|+1EP}}<br />
|spot1-4={{bingocard/bonus|Master Ball}}<br />
|spot2-4={{bingocard/entry|272|Ludicolo|Mega Drain|Water}}<br />
|spot3-4={{bingocard/bonus|+2EP}}<br />
|spot4-4={{bingocard/entry|062|Poliwrath|Brick Break|Water}}}}<br />
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====Counter Card====<br />
{{bingocard<br />
|title=Counter<br />
|desc=Battle Bingo's toughest Card.<br />
|startnum=Box XD 123<br />
|startpokemon=Scyther<br />
|starttype1=Bug<br />
|starttype2=Flying<br />
|startmove=Aerial Ace<br />
|startmovetype=Flying<br />
|spot1-1={{bingocard/entry|045|Vileplume|Petal Dance|Grass}}<br />
|spot2-1={{bingocard/entry|195|Quagsire|Earthquake|Ground}}<br />
|spot3-1={{bingocard/entry|362|Glalie|Ice Beam|Ice}}<br />
|spot4-1={{bingocard/entry|101|Electrode|Thunderbolt|Electric}}<br />
|spot1-2={{bingocard/entry|171|Lanturn|Surf|Water}}<br />
|spot2-2={{bingocard/bonus|Master Ball}}<br />
|spot3-2={{bingocard/bonus|+2EP}}<br />
|spot4-2={{bingocard/entry|297|Hariyama|Rock Slide|Fighting}}<br />
|spot1-3={{bingocard/entry|352|Kecleon|Strength|Normal}}<br />
|spot2-3={{bingocard/entry|130|Gyarados|Flamethrower|Water}}<br />
|spot3-3={{bingocard/entry|272|Ludicolo|Surf|Grass}}<br />
|spot4-3={{bingocard/entry|006|Charizard|Flamethrower|Fire}}<br />
|spot1-4={{bingocard/entry|026|Raichu|Thunderbolt|Electric}}<br />
|spot2-4={{bingocard/entry|295|Exploud|Hyper Voice|Normal}}<br />
|spot3-4={{bingocard/entry|076|Golem|Rock Slide|Ground}}<br />
|spot4-4={{bingocard/bonus|+1EP}}}}<br />
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===Extra===<br />
Prize for clearing:<br><br />
2000-3300 Poké Coupons<br><br />
[[Max Elixir]] (First time only)<br />
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====Psychic Card====<br />
{{bingocard<br />
|title=Psychic<br />
|desc=Houndoom's chance for glory?<br />
|startnum=Box XD 229<br />
|startpokemon=Houndoom<br />
|starttype1=Dark<br />
|starttype2=Fire<br />
|startmove=Crunch<br />
|startmovetype=Dark<br />
|spot1-1={{bingocard/entry|308|Medicham|Hi Jump Kick|Psychic}}<br />
|spot2-1={{bingocard/entry|358|Chimecho|Shadow Ball|Psychic}}<br />
|spot3-1={{bingocard/bonus|Master Ball}}<br />
|spot4-1={{bingocard/entry|124|Jynx|Ice Beam|Psychic}}<br />
|spot1-2={{bingocard/entry|103|Exeggutor|Giga Drain|Psychic}}<br />
|spot2-2={{bingocard/entry|338|Solrock|Flamethrower|Psychic}}<br />
|spot3-2={{bingocard/entry|203|Girafarig|Thunderbolt|Psychic}}<br />
|spot4-2={{bingocard/bonus|+1EP}}<br />
|spot1-3={{bingocard/entry|080|Slowbro|Surf|Psychic}}<br />
|spot2-3={{bingocard/entry|326|Grumpig|Psychic|Psychic}}<br />
|spot3-3={{bingocard/entry|344|Claydol|Earthquake|Psychic}}<br />
|spot4-3={{bingocard/entry|178|Xatu|Drill Peck|Psychic}}<br />
|spot1-4={{bingocard/entry|376|Metagross|Psychic|Psychic}}<br />
|spot2-4={{bingocard/bonus|+2EP}}<br />
|spot3-4={{bingocard/entry|337|Lunatone|Rock Slide|Psychic}}<br />
|spot4-4={{bingocard/entry|199|Slowking|Brick Break|Psychic}}}}<br />
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===Special===<br />
Prize for clearing:<br><br />
400-500 Poké Coupons<br><br />
[[Max Revive]] and [[Bonsly Photo]] (First time only)<br />
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====Bonsly Card====<br />
{{bingocard<br />
|title=Bonsly<br />
|desc=Bonsly makes its battle debut!<br />
|startnum=Box XD 438<br />
|startpokemon=Bonsly<br />
|starttype1=Rock<br />
|startmove=Rock Slide<br />
|startmovetype=Rock<br />
|spot1-1={{bingocard/bonus|+1EP}}<br />
|spot2-1={{bingocard/entry|325|Spoink|Psybeam|Psychic}}<br />
|spot3-1={{bingocard/entry|165|Ledyba|Silver Wind|Bug}}<br />
|spot4-1={{bingocard/bonus|Master Ball}}<br />
|spot1-2={{bingocard/entry|063|Abra|Fire Punch|Psychic}}<br />
|spot2-2={{bingocard/entry|276|Taillow|Aerial Ace|Flying}}<br />
|spot3-2={{bingocard/entry|281|Kirlia|Psychic|Psychic}}<br />
|spot4-2={{bingocard/entry|074|Geodude|Counter|Rock}}<br />
|spot1-3={{bingocard/entry|056|Mankey|Karate Chop|Fighting}}<br />
|spot2-3={{bingocard/entry|292|Shedinja|Silver Wind|Bug}}<br />
|spot3-3={{bingocard/bonus|+2EP}}<br />
|spot4-3={{bingocard/entry|066|Machop|Karate Chop|Fighting}}<br />
|spot1-4={{bingocard/entry|283|Surskit|Shadow Ball|Bug}}<br />
|spot2-4={{bingocard/entry|296|Makuhita|Vital Throw|Fighting}}<br />
|spot3-4={{bingocard/entry|304|Aron|Rock Slide|Rock}}<br />
|spot4-4={{bingocard/entry|246|Larvitar|Rock Slide|Rock}}}}<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
* In some Battle Bingo games, an oddity occurs where the [[gender]] of each Pokémon may differ between the battle scenarios and the Bingo Card. This may happen to some Pokémon but not others in the same game. It is unclear why this occurs.<br />
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==In other languages==<br />
{{langtable|color={{XD color light}}|bordercolor={{XD color}}<br />
|fr=Poké Bingo<br />
|de=Kampf-Bingo<br />
|it=Pokébingo<br />
|es=Bingo de Combates}}<br />
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[[Category:Pokémon XD]]<br />
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[[de:Kampf-Bingo]]<br />
[[fr:Poké Bingo]]<br />
[[ja:バトルDEビンゴ]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:ONBS&diff=3559342Talk:ONBS2022-08-24T23:37:49Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* Prize Money Discrepancy */ new section</p>
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<div>==Image Inconsistency==<br />
The image used for a "typical broadcast" is from Colosseum. ONBS did not exist in Colosseum, as its members were known as KIDS GRID in such game, and not newscasters. The image should be replaced with one from XD and actually of ONBS. [[User:TraxScrip813|TraxScrip813]] ([[User talk:TraxScrip813|talk]]) 11:38, 27 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
: Seconded, it is stated fairly explicitly that ONBS was founded after and due to the events of Colosseum. [[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 06:36, 18 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Prize Money Discrepancy ==<br />
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I just fought the Cipher Commander, and unlike what is listed here, I received $2000 in prize money instead of $1840. Is there a reason for this in terms of how the game calculates this, or was this just an error?<br />
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[[User:ScottOshawott|ScottOshawott]] ([[User talk:ScottOshawott|talk]]) 23:37, 24 August 2022 (UTC)</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Move_Tutor&diff=3559304Talk:Move Tutor2022-08-24T22:10:49Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* XD General Move Tutor - Move Availability and Story Progression */ new section</p>
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<div>Move Tutors or move tutors? - [[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 03:26, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)<br />
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Edited the part about only being able to learn Mega Punch or Mega Kick outside of Mt. Moon in LG/FR. My Pikachu learned Mega Kick and my Mankey learned Mega Punch. =) --[[User:Doug_teh_H-Nut|Doug teh H-Nut]] 8:00 PM EST, July 11, 2005<br />
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Are any of these moves one-shot tutors? Or are they all infinitely teachable? Either way, I think this should be clarified. If the former is the case, it should also be noted on the move's page. --[[User:ZellMurasame|ZellMurasame]] 16:41, 13 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
:I'm not sure about FRLG, I think those are one-shot. In Emerald (at least at the Battle Frontier), Crystal, and DP they're all infinite. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 20:08, 13 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
::...if anyone could say whether or not the non-BF tutors in Gen III are infinite, that'd be nice... <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 09:27, 14 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
::: Except for the tutors at the Battle Frontier, every Gen III move tutor teaches a move only once. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 11:32, 14 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== D/P tutors ==<br />
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I edited in a little bit of information about the D/P move tutors, similar to the information regarding the Gen II/III/IV move tutors. Is that sufficient? -- [[User:Nebula|Nebula]] 00:35, 20 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Mew Tutor ==<br />
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Serebii talks of a tutor for Mew when you transfer it from any game to XD. Will we add this info to this article? The link is http://www.serebii.net/xd/mew.shtml.[[User:Ht14|ht14]] 13:47, 25 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:It does seem notable. Plus it makes the statement that Mew can learn any attack true. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 15:10, 25 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
::And ''only'' Mew can learn these? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:08, 13 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Hmm... I think sometime we should try our hand at listing the moves that Mew has ''never'' legally been able to have. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::So true... [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 00:45, 15 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Font Colors==<br />
As the title suggests, how do the font colors change (like the titles)? Some of the words are hard to read.... [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 00:45, 15 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I can fix 'em, which ones specifically? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:41, 15 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
::XD tutors should be {{tt|white|just a suggestion anyway}}... [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 02:45, 15 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Never mind, I figured it out... [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#D5AA00"><sup>''ht''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 21:04, 20 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Platinum tutors ==<br />
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On the pages for moves that can be learned via Platinum tutors, someone needs to add the list of Pokémon that can learn them. --[[user:Baby G|Baby G]] <small>([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]])</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]])</small> 19:52, 20 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
:On the pages for Pokémon that can learn said move tutors, someone should mention them.<br />
:The problem remains... what about the crossgen evos? Like Ambipom; you can get DynamicPunch on it if you transfer Aipom from Emerald. Should that be mentioned? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:00, 21 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Cape Brink Tutor and Starters ==<br />
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So, I bought LeafGreen and FireRed at the same time, and traded the other two starters to my FireRed file early on (by Pewter City). So they all had max happiness by the time I reached Cape Brink. And the move tutor taught Blaze Burn to Charizard, Hydro Cannon to Blastoise, and Frenzy Plant to Venasaur. This proves that it's not just for the trainer's starter (which was Squirtle, by the way). <br />
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I can't think of the right words to reword it though, so I'd like to leave that up to someone else; and if someone else doesn't, I'll just have to fix it someother time. But it should be noted. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 23:05, 19 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Move availability ==<br />
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To all those who edit Platinum tutor moves: check before assuming anything. For instance, just because a Pokémon learns one or even two elemental punches '''does not''' mean it learns all three. Check [http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45806 Smogon] and [http://www.serebii.net/platinum/movetutors.shtml Serebii]. They are wrong sometimes, but rarely. If you find something that looks suspicious, ''check it on a Platinum game'', or find someone who can. Please do not simply assume things, and then present it as fact on Bulbapedia's move lists. Checking early avoids a lot more hassle for everyone later on. Thanks.&nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&nbsp;<sub>([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])</sub> 02:53, 26 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:On a related note, sometimes a Pokémon can learn a move by tutor in Emerald, but cannot learn the same move in Platinum. Whether or not this makes sense, it's true.&nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&nbsp;<sub>([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])</sub> 03:30, 26 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Heart Gold/Soul Silver==<br />
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I've got the ball rolling. How you decide to make it look prettier is up to those of you who know what you're doing. Also, I'm not sure you should bother putting the Platinum Battle Frontier move tutors in the same template as the new ones (even though you can learn them in the same place) because it makes it more difficult to find the new ones. But that's just my opinion.--[[User:ANinyMouse|Aniny]] 19:46, 26 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:When I first analyzed the HG/SS Move tutors I noticed at least 11 new moves that were not available in Platinum so I would think that would be a good reason to make a new template, similar to the one used for Emerald since it also requires B.P. and If I recall on my analysis this does not include {{m|Headbutt}}. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 19:31, 29 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::If you're going to offer a sortable table by price, then the Platinum tutor moves should be added as well.--[[User:ANinyMouse|Aniny]] 04:35, 6 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::Have to agree with that.-[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 06:19, 6 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
::::Which is why I finished the work myself and added details in that I was aware of on the day the details were revealed and even did double check conformation with the old list and Platinum list to confirm the accuracy of these details before posting. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 07:34, 6 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:can some pinpoint out the location of move tutor in hg/ss? i tried finding it but no hope, tnx. - [[User:wisp82|wisp82]] 1:15 Am, 30 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I suggest reading the article. The locations of the move tutors are given; it shouldn't be too hard to track them down. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 09:03, 30 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== I don't get it! ==<br />
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What does it mean: the price of a move in HGSS? Does it mean that I need to pay bp every time I wanna teach a move to a Pokémon, or does it mean that if I just pay bp one time I will be able to learn that move non-stop? Please answer me and add it to the page. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] 15:26, 29 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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:You pay BP each time you want the move taught. I don't think that should be added to the page because purchasable things are generally one-use: potions, vitamins, Poké Balls, TMs (though Gen V TMs are infinite-use by their nature), etc.. [[User:Shiny Porygon|Shiny Porygon]] 18:48, 18 April 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Still incomplete? ==<br />
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Is the Black and White 2 section still incomplete or could the note be removed? [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 10:19, 26 July 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Still incomplete, but you should not remove that section. Instead, you can feel free to add a section about Move Tutors in the [[Pokémon anime]].[[User:SpecialStageRoute|Special Stage Route]] ([[User talk:SpecialStageRoute|pit stop]]) 13:49, 1 August 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Dragon Ascent ==<br />
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I don't have access to Sun and Moon at the moment, but the move tutor list for Sun and Moon lists it as a Dragon type, but the move page lists it as a Flying type. Has the type been changed in generation VII or is this a mistake? [[User:TDoggy|TDoggy]] ([[User talk:TDoggy|talk]]) 13:57, 21 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Notable Pattern Regarding Move Tutor Availability ==<br />
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I may be wrong, but it seems that the games have featured a pattern since Generation III (definitely since Gen IV; it seems they started fiddling with it before, but it didn't become solid until Gen IV): the first games (Diamond/Pearl;Black/White;X/Y) only have those few tutor-exclusive moves that are taught for free, if that (Ruby/Sapphire having none). Then the later "waves" of games in that generation (FireRed/LeafGreen/Emerald;Platinum/HeartGold/SoulSilver;Black2/White2;OmegaRuby/AlphaSapphire) feature far more move tutors (and tutor moves), usually for shards or BP. Sun and Moon follows this "pattern" so far, being the first/main/completely original games of Generation VII and only having tutors for those tutor-exclusive moves. First, would this be enough to be considered an actual pattern? If so, would it be worth noting on the page? Or should we maybe wait to see how Generation VII progresses? [[User:Masternachos|Masternachos]] ([[User talk:Masternachos|talk]]) 01:19, 7 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:My opinion is that it's pretty self-evident and not especially necessary to point out, ''but'' let me add that if we do note it, this pattern goes all the way back to Generation II. Let me also point out that I have a page in my userspace that's awaiting mainspacing, [[User:Pumpkinking0192/Special Move Tutor moves]], that covers all the moves that are taught for free that are generally available in all games since the move's debut. If this page is mainspaced, your suggestion will be much more concise because we can merely say a generation's first games have special tutor moves only (R/S notwithstanding), and further games have non-special tutor moves available. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:56, 7 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Well at least I'm not seeing patterns where they don't exist! That's a relief. [[User:Masternachos|Masternachos]] ([[User talk:Masternachos|talk]]) 16:56, 7 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== XD General Move Tutor - Move Availability and Story Progression ==<br />
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I noticed that the information on XD's general Move Tutor does not include the points in the story when moves become available, as only three moves or so are actually available at the beginning of the game. I'd have to look and see if the XD Strategy guide has any information (or if I wrote it down). If anyone else has information on this, that would be worth adding. I will do my own research and update pages as well.<br />
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[[User:ScottOshawott|ScottOshawott]] ([[User talk:ScottOshawott|talk]]) 22:10, 24 August 2022 (UTC)</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Move_Tutor&diff=3559303Move Tutor2022-08-24T22:04:59Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* General Move Tutor */ Added the Move Tutor's Self-Title</p>
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<div>{{search|characters who teach Pokémon moves outside of their normal learnsets|the characters who teach moves Pokémon can learn at previous levels|Move Reminder}}<br />
{{redirect|Move Teacher|the man called the Move Teacher in [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]]|Move Reminder}}<br />
A '''Move Tutor''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|技教|わざおし}}え{{tt|人|びと}}''' ''Move Teacher'') is a [[non-player character]] who will teach a [[Pokémon]] specific [[move]]s. Move Tutors are found in [[Kanto]] (including the [[Sevii Islands]]), [[Johto]], [[Hoenn]], [[Orre]], [[Sinnoh]] (including the [[Battle Zone]]), [[Unova]], [[Kalos]], [[Alola]], [[Galar]] and the [[Pokémon Stadium]]. They are not to be confused with [[Move Reminder]]s.<br />
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==Generation I==<br />
===Stadium (Japanese)===<br />
In the game known as {{OBP|Pokémon Stadium|Japanese}} in Japanese that was only released in Japan, if the player clears the Master Ball division of the L1-30 Division with a {{p|Pikachu}} in their party, the Pikachu can learn {{m|Surf}}.<br />
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{{tutormv|Surf|Water|hm=03}}<br />
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===Stadium (English)===<br />
In the international release of the game known as {{eng|Pokémon Stadium}} in English, if the player clears the Master Ball division of the Round 2 [[Prime Cup]] with only Pokémon selected directly from a Game Pak with a {{p|Pikachu}} in their party and does not save during the tournament, the Pikachu can learn {{m|Surf}}. Pikachu only has to be selected for the final battle and does not have to take part in the battle.<br />
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==Generation II==<br />
===Crystal===<br />
[[File:Move tutor.png|150px|right|thumb]]<br />
In {{game|Crystal}}, [[Bill]]'s father can be visited outside the [[Goldenrod Game Corner]] every Wednesday and Saturday after the player has entered the [[Hall of Fame]]. He teaches three different moves for 4000 coins, two of which were [[TM]]s in [[Generation I]] and returned to that status in [[Generation III]], and one of which later became a TM with the other two. These moves are breedable in the same fashion as TMs and HMs. After teaching a move, he goes back inside the Game Corner to gamble while nursing a drink, and will not be able to teach another move until the next available day.<br />
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The move tutor's son, Bill, complains that he doesn't work and is a drain on the family. His wife describes him as a former {{tc|Poké Maniac}} who spends all his free time gambling.<br />
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{{tutormv|Flamethrower|Fire|tm=—}}<br />
{{tutormv|Ice Beam|Ice|tm=13}}<br />
{{tutormv|Thunderbolt|Electric|tm=24}}<br />
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==Generation III==<br />
===FireRed and LeafGreen===<br />
These Move Tutors are in {{v2|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}. They do not appear in the [[Generation I]] games.<br />
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====Normal Move Tutors====<br />
These tutors will teach a Pokémon a move otherwise unobtainable with the [[Generation III]] [[TM]] list. Many of the NPCs which gave a TM containing a move in [[Generation I]] that is no longer available in TM form in the current generation will directly teach the move they would have given instead. These can only be taught once.<br />
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{{tutormv|Body Slam|Normal|loc={{OBP|Four Island|town}}|tm=08}}<br />
{{tutormv|Counter|Fighting|loc=[[Celadon Department Store]]|tm=18}}<br />
{{tutormv|Double-Edge|Normal|loc={{ka|Victory Road}}|tm=10}}<br />
{{tutormv|Dream Eater|Psychic|loc=[[Viridian City]]|tm=42}}<br />
{{tutormv|Explosion|Normal|loc=[[Mt. Ember]]|tm=47}}<br />
{{tutormv|Mega Kick|Normal|loc={{rt|4|Kanto}}|tm=05}}<br />
{{tutormv|Mega Punch|Normal|loc={{rt|4|Kanto}}|tm=01}}<br />
{{tutormv|Metronome|Normal|loc=[[Cinnabar Lab|Pokémon Lab]]|tm=35}}<br />
{{tutormv|Mimic|Normal|loc=[[Saffron City]]|tm=31}}<br />
{{tutormv|Rock Slide|Rock|loc=[[Rock Tunnel]]|tm=48}}<br />
{{tutormv|Seismic Toss|Fighting|loc=[[Pewter City]]|tm=19}}<br />
{{tutormv|Softboiled|Normal|loc=[[Celadon City]]|tm=41}}<br />
{{tutormv|Substitute|Normal|loc=[[Fuchsia City]]|tm=50}}<br />
{{tutormv|Swords Dance|Normal|loc={{OBP|Seven Island|town}}|tm=03}}<br />
{{tutormv|Thunder Wave|Electric|loc=[[Silph Co.]]|tm=45}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
====Special Move Tutors====<br />
A [[Ultima|woman]] at [[Two Island]]'s [[Cape Brink]] will teach one move to each of the fully evolved Kanto starter Pokémon. She will teach {{m|Frenzy Plant}} to {{p|Venusaur}}, {{m|Hydro Cannon}} to {{p|Blastoise}}, and {{m|Blast Burn}} to {{p|Charizard}}. The moves can only be taught to one of these three Pokémon once, and the Pokémon learning the move must have maximum [[friendship]].<br />
<br />
{{tutormv/header|frlg|none|no}}<br />
{{tutormv|Blast Burn|Fire|tm=—}}<br />
{{tutormv|Frenzy Plant|Grass|tm=—}}<br />
{{tutormv|Hydro Cannon|Water|tm=—}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Emerald===<br />
In {{game|Emerald}}, various Move Tutors can be found across the [[Hoenn]] region. Some moves may be purchased at the {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}. Those that cannot be purchased may only be learned once from the tutor.<br />
<br />
====Free Move Tutors====<br />
{{tutormv/header|emerald|none|yes}}<br />
{{tutormv|Double-Edge|Normal|loc=[[Sootopolis City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|DynamicPunch|Fighting|loc=[[Mossdeep City]]}}<!--Emerald ex--><br />
{{tutormv|Explosion|Normal|loc=[[Pacifidlog Town]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Fury Cutter|Bug|loc=[[Verdanturf Town]]}}<!--Emerald ex--><br />
{{tutormv|Metronome|Normal|loc=[[Fallarbor Town]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Mimic|Normal|loc=[[Lavaridge Town]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Rollout|Rock|loc=[[Mauville City]]}}<!--Emerald ex--><br />
{{tutormv|Sleep Talk|Normal|loc=[[Fortree City]]}}<!--Emerald ex--><br />
{{tutormv|Substitute|Normal|loc=[[Lilycove City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Swagger|Normal|loc=[[Slateport City]]}}<!--Emerald ex--><br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
====Battle Frontier Move Tutors====<br />
{| style="margin:auto"<br />
| style="vertical-align:top" |<br />
{{tutormv/header|emerald|BP|no|disp=Left Tutor}}<br />
{{tutormv|Softboiled|Normal|bp=16}}<br />
{{tutormv|Seismic Toss|Fighting|bp=24}}<br />
{{tutormv|Dream Eater|Psychic|bp=24}}<br />
{{tutormv|Mega Punch|Normal|bp=24}}<br />
{{tutormv|Mega Kick|Normal|bp=48}}<br />
{{tutormv|Body Slam|Normal|bp=48}}<br />
{{tutormv|Rock Slide|Rock|bp=48}}<br />
{{tutormv|Counter|Fighting|bp=48}}<br />
{{tutormv|Thunder Wave|Electric|bp=48}}<br />
{{tutormv|Swords Dance|Normal|bp=48}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|<br />
{{tutormv/header|emerald|BP|no|disp=Right Tutor}}<br />
{{tutormv|Defense Curl|Normal|bp=16}}<br />
{{tutormv|Snore|Normal|bp=24}}<br />
{{tutormv|Mud-Slap|Ground|bp=24}}<br />
{{tutormv|Swift|Normal|bp=24}}<br />
{{tutormv|Icy Wind|Ice|bp=24}}<br />
{{tutormv|Endure|Normal|bp=48}}<br />
{{tutormv|Psych Up|Normal|bp=48}}<br />
{{tutormv|Ice Punch|Ice|bp=48}}<br />
{{tutormv|ThunderPunch|Electric|bp=48}}<br />
{{tutormv|Fire Punch|Fire|bp=48}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Pokémon XD===<br />
====General Move Tutor====<br />
In {{Pokémon XD}}, there is a Move Tutor in [[Agate Village]] known as the Teacher Lady. Like all Move Tutors in FireRed and LeafGreen and the free Move Tutors in Emerald, these moves can only be taught once.<br />
<br />
{{tutormv/header|xd|none|no|textcolor=FFF}}<br />
{{tutormv|Body Slam|Normal}}<br />
{{tutormv|Double-Edge|Normal}}<br />
{{tutormv|Dream Eater|Psychic}}<br />
{{tutormv|Icy Wind|Ice}}<br />
{{tutormv|Mimic|Normal}}<br />
{{tutormv|Nightmare|Ghost}}<br />
{{tutormv|Seismic Toss|Fighting}}<br />
{{tutormv|Selfdestruct|Normal}}<br />
{{tutormv|Sky Attack|Flying}}<br />
{{tutormv|Substitute|Normal}}<br />
{{tutormv|Swagger|Normal}}<br />
{{tutormv|Thunder Wave|Electric}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
====Mew Move Tutor====<br />
A Move Tutor at [[Mt. Battle]] can teach {{p|Mew}} moves for the cost of 5,000 [[Poké Coupon]]s. This can only be done after beating the game, but it can be done multiple times. Unlike other Move Tutors, this one does not give the player a direct choice in what Mew learns. Instead, he asks a few questions and then offers a full set of moves for Mew.<br />
<br />
This Move Tutor can teach Mew any move it can otherwise learn by [[TM]], [[HM]], or from any other Generation III Move Tutor, plus one of the moves below:<br />
<br />
{{tutormv/header|xd|none|no}}<br />
{{tutormv|Faint Attack|Dark}}<br />
{{tutormv|Fake Out|Normal}}<br />
{{tutormv|Hypnosis|Psychic}}<br />
{{tutormv|Night Shade|Ghost}}<br />
{{tutormv|Role Play|Psychic}}<br />
{{tutormv|Zap Cannon|Electric}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Generation IV==<br />
===Diamond and Pearl===<br />
There are two Move Tutors in Sinnoh—one on {{rt|228|Sinnoh}} and one on {{rt|210|Sinnoh}}. The Move Tutor on Route 210 teaches {{m|Draco Meteor}} to a Dragon-type Pokémon which has had its [[friendship]] maximized. Similar to the Cape Brink Move Tutor in FireRed and LeafGreen, the Route 228 Move Tutor will teach one of the elemental [[Move variations|variations]] of {{m|Hyper Beam}} to a fully evolved [[starter Pokémon]] with maximum friendship. Unlike the Cape Brink tutor, it can be any of the fully evolved starter Pokémon, but the move's type will always correspond with the Pokémon's primary type. Also unlike the Cape Brink tutor, it can be taught as many times as the player likes.<br />
<br />
{{tutormv/header|dp|none|yes}}<br />
{{tutormv|Blast Burn|Fire|cat=Special|loc={{rt|228|Sinnoh}}}}<br />
{{tutormv|Draco Meteor|Dragon|cat=Special|loc={{rt|210|Sinnoh}}}}<br />
{{tutormv|Frenzy Plant|Grass|cat=Special|loc={{rt|228|Sinnoh}}}}<br />
{{tutormv|Hydro Cannon|Water|cat=Special|loc={{rt|228|Sinnoh}}}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Platinum===<br />
In {{game|Platinum}}, in addition to the Move Tutors in Diamond and Pearl, three new Move Tutors are added, in [[Snowpoint City]], on {{rt|212|Sinnoh}}, and in the [[Survival Area]]. These Move Tutors accept [[shard]]s in return for their services, charging eight shards of various colors per move.<br />
<br />
====Free Move Tutors====<br />
{{tutormv/header|platinum|none|yes}}<br />
{{tutormv|Blast Burn|Fire|cat=Special|loc={{rt|228|Sinnoh}}}}<br />
{{tutormv|Draco Meteor|Dragon|cat=Special|loc={{rt|210|Sinnoh}}}}<br />
{{tutormv|Frenzy Plant|Grass|cat=Special|loc={{rt|228|Sinnoh}}}}<br />
{{tutormv|Hydro Cannon|Water|cat=Special|loc={{rt|228|Sinnoh}}}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
====Shard Move Tutors====<br />
{{sign|DPtip|header}}<br />
{{sign|DPtip|Red Shards emphasize power.}}<br />
{{sign|DPtip|Blue Shards are for special effects.}}<br />
{{sign|DPtip|Yellow Shards are for status problems.}}<br />
{{sign|DPtip|Green Shards are what I like!}}<br />
{{sign|DPtip|footer}}<br />
{{-}}<br />
<br />
{| style="margin:auto"<br />
| style="vertical-align:top" |<br />
{{tutormv/header|platinum|shard|no|disp={{color2|000|Sinnoh Route 212|Route 212}}}}<br />
{{tutormv|Air Cutter|Flying|cat=Special|2|2|4|0}}<br />
{{tutormv|Dive|Water|cat=Physical|2|0|4|2}}<br />
{{tutormv|Fire Punch|Fire|cat=Physical|2|0|6|0}}<br />
{{tutormv|Fury Cutter|Bug|cat=Physical|0|0|8|0}}<br />
{{tutormv|Ice Punch|Ice|cat=Physical|2|0|6|0}}<br />
{{tutormv|Icy Wind|Ice|cat=Special|0|2|6|0}}<br />
{{tutormv|Knock Off|Dark|cat=Physical|4|0|4|0}}<br />
{{tutormv|Ominous Wind|Ghost|cat=Special|0|2|6|0}}<br />
{{tutormv|Sucker Punch|Dark|cat=Physical|0|0|6|2}}<br />
{{tutormv|ThunderPunch|Electric|cat=Physical|2|0|6|0}}<br />
{{tutormv|Trick|Psychic|cat=Status|0|0|4|4}}<br />
{{tutormv|Vacuum Wave|Fighting|cat=Special|2|2|4|0}}<br />
{{tutormv|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|cat=Physical|0|0|4|4}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
| style="vertical-align:top" |<br />
{{tutormv/header|platinum|shard|no|disp={{color2|000|Snowpoint City}}}}<br />
{{tutormv|Helping Hand|Normal|cat=Status|2|2|0|4}}<br />
{{tutormv|Last Resort|Normal|cat=Physical|0|8|0|0}}<br />
{{tutormv|Magnet Rise|Electric|cat=Status|0|2|2|4}}<br />
{{tutormv|Snore|Normal|cat=Special|2|2|0|4}}<br />
{{tutormv|Spite|Ghost|cat=Status|0|0|0|8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Swift|Normal|cat=Special|0|4|2|2}}<br />
{{tutormv|Synthesis|Grass|cat=Status|0|6|0|2}}<br />
{{tutormv|Uproar|Normal|cat=Special|0|2|0|6}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
| style="vertical-align:top" |<br />
{{tutormv/header|platinum|shard|no|disp={{color2|000|Survival Area}}}}<br />
{{tutormv|AncientPower|Rock|cat=Special|6|2|0|0}}<br />
{{tutormv|Aqua Tail|Water|cat=Physical|6|2|0|0}}<br />
{{tutormv|Bounce|Flying|cat=Physical|4|2|0|2}}<br />
{{tutormv|Earth Power|Ground|cat=Special|6|2|0|0}}<br />
{{tutormv|Endeavor|Normal|cat=Physical|4|0|0|4}}<br />
{{tutormv|Gastro Acid|Poison|cat=Status|4|2|0|2}}<br />
{{tutormv|Gunk Shot|Poison|cat=Physical|4|2|2|0}}<br />
{{tutormv|Heat Wave|Fire|cat=Special|4|2|2|0}}<br />
{{tutormv|Iron Defense|Steel|cat=Status|4|0|2|2}}<br />
{{tutormv|Iron Head|Steel|cat=Physical|6|0|0|2}}<br />
{{tutormv|Mud-Slap|Ground|cat=Special|4|0|4|0}}<br />
{{tutormv|Outrage|Dragon|cat=Physical|6|0|0|2}}<br />
{{tutormv|Rollout|Rock|cat=Physical|4|2|2|0}}<br />
{{tutormv|Seed Bomb|Grass|cat=Physical|4|4|0|0}}<br />
{{tutormv|Signal Beam|Bug|cat=Special|2|2|2|2}}<br />
{{tutormv|Superpower|Fighting|cat=Physical|8|0|0|0}}<br />
{{tutormv|Twister|Dragon|cat=Special|6|2|0|0}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===HeartGold and SoulSilver===<br />
The following tutor moves are available in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}. Similar to Emerald, most of the moves that a Move Tutor can teach to a Pokémon require a set amount of Battle Points, these tutors being located in the [[Frontier Access]]. Fourteen of these moves are exclusive to HeartGold and SoulSilver, while the rest are also obtainable in Platinum.<br />
<br />
====Free Move Tutors====<br />
{{tutormv/header|hgss|none|yes}}<br />
{{tutormv|Blast Burn|Fire|cat=Special|loc=[[Blackthorn City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Draco Meteor|Dragon|cat=Special|loc=[[Blackthorn City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Frenzy Plant|Grass|cat=Special|loc=[[Blackthorn City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Headbutt|Normal|cat=Physical|loc=[[Ilex Forest]]}}<!--HGSS ex--><br />
{{tutormv|Hydro Cannon|Water|cat=Special|loc=[[Blackthorn City]]}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
====Frontier Access Move Tutors====<br />
{| style="margin:auto"<br />
| style="vertical-align:top" |<br />
{{tutormv/header|hgss|BP|no|disp=Top left}}<br />
{{tutormv|Air Cutter|Flying|cat=Special|bp=48}}<br />
{{tutormv|Bug Bite|Bug|cat=Physical|bp=32}}<br />
{{tutormv|Dive|Water|cat=Physical|bp=40}}<br />
{{tutormv|Fire Punch|Fire|cat=Physical|bp=64}}<br />
{{tutormv|Fury Cutter|Bug|cat=Physical|bp=32}}<br />
{{tutormv|Ice Punch|Ice|cat=Physical|bp=64}}<br />
{{tutormv|Icy Wind|Ice|cat=Special|bp=48}}<br />
{{tutormv|Knock Off|Dark|cat=Physical|bp=40}}<br />
{{tutormv|Ominous Wind|Ghost|cat=Special|bp=48}}<br />
{{tutormv|Sucker Punch|Dark|cat=Physical|bp=40}}<br />
{{tutormv|ThunderPunch|Electric|cat=Physical|bp=64}}<br />
{{tutormv|Trick|Psychic|cat=Status|bp=48}}<br />
{{tutormv|Vacuum Wave|Fighting|cat=Special|bp=48}}<br />
{{tutormv|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|cat=Physical|bp=64}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|valign=top|<br />
{{tutormv/header|hgss|BP|no|disp=Top right}}<br />
{{tutormv|AncientPower|Rock|cat=Special|bp=40}}<br />
{{tutormv|Aqua Tail|Water|cat=Physical|bp=40}}<br />
{{tutormv|Bounce|Flying|cat=Physical|bp=32}}<br />
{{tutormv|Earth Power|Ground|cat=Special|bp=40}}<br />
{{tutormv|Endeavor|Normal|cat=Physical|bp=64}}<br />
{{tutormv|Gastro Acid|Poison|cat=Status|bp=32}}<br />
{{tutormv|Gunk Shot|Poison|cat=Physical|bp=32}}<br />
{{tutormv|Heat Wave|Fire|cat=Special|bp=48}}<br />
{{tutormv|Iron Defense|Steel|cat=Status|bp=40}}<br />
{{tutormv|Iron Head|Steel|cat=Physical|bp=40}}<br />
{{tutormv|Low Kick|Fighting|cat=Physical|bp=32}}<br />
{{tutormv|Mud-Slap|Ground|cat=Special|bp=32}}<br />
{{tutormv|Outrage|Dragon|cat=Physical|bp=48}}<br />
{{tutormv|Pain Split|Normal|cat=Status|bp=64}}<br />
{{tutormv|Rollout|Rock|cat=Physical|bp=32}}<br />
{{tutormv|Seed Bomb|Grass|cat=Physical|bp=40}}<br />
{{tutormv|Signal Beam|Bug|cat=Special|bp=40}}<br />
{{tutormv|Sky Attack|Flying|cat=Physical|bp=64}}<br />
{{tutormv|Super Fang|Normal|cat=Physical|bp=40}}<br />
{{tutormv|Superpower|Fighting|cat=Physical|bp=48}}<br />
{{tutormv|Twister|Dragon|cat=Special|bp=40}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|valign=top|<br />
{{tutormv/header|hgss|BP|no|disp=Bottom right}}<br />
{{tutormv|Block|Normal|cat=Status|bp=32}}<br />
{{tutormv|Gravity|Psychic|cat=Status|bp=32}}<br />
{{tutormv|Heal Bell|Normal|cat=Status|bp=48}}<br />
{{tutormv|Helping Hand|Normal|cat=Status|bp=40}}<br />
{{tutormv|Last Resort|Normal|cat=Physical|bp=48}}<br />
{{tutormv|Magic Coat|Psychic|cat=Status|bp=32}}<br />
{{tutormv|Magnet Rise|Electric|cat=Status|bp=40}}<br />
{{tutormv|Role Play|Psychic|cat=Status|bp=48}}<br />
{{tutormv|Snore|Normal|cat=Special|bp=32}}<br />
{{tutormv|Spite|Ghost|cat=Status|bp=40}}<br />
{{tutormv|String Shot|Bug|cat=Status|bp=32}}<br />
{{tutormv|Swift|Normal|cat=Special|bp=40}}<br />
{{tutormv|Synthesis|Grass|cat=Status|bp=40}}<br />
{{tutormv|Tailwind|Flying|cat=Status|bp=48}}<br />
{{tutormv|Uproar|Normal|cat=Special|bp=48}}<br />
{{tutormv|Worry Seed|Grass|cat=Status|bp=32}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
{{-}}<br />
<br />
==Generation V==<br />
===Black and White===<br />
In {{game|Black and White|s}}, there are four Move Tutors in Unova: one in [[Driftveil City]], one on {{rt|13|Unova}}, one in [[Opelucid City]] and one in [[Castelia City]]. A man in his house in Driftveil City teaches the newly-introduced {{DL|Move variations|Pledge moves}}, which can be combined with each other in double and triple battles for additional effects. As before, the elemental {{m|Hyper Beam}} variants can be taught to [[friendship|friendly]] fully-evolved [[starter Pokémon]] of each respective type, with the new Move Tutor being located on Route 13. {{m|Draco Meteor}} is taught by the opposite game's [[Opelucid Gym]] [[Gym Leader|Leader]] ([[Drayden]]{{sup/5|Wh}} or [[Iris]]{{sup/5|Bl}}), but maximum friendship is not required. Also, if the player brings an event {{p|Meloetta}} to Café Sonata in [[Castelia City]], a musician will teach it {{m|Relic Song}}. Furthermore, if the player brings an event {{p|Keldeo}} with {{p|Cobalion}}, {{p|Terrakion}}, and {{p|Virizion}} in their party to [[Moor of Icirrus]], they will teach it {{m|Secret Sword}}.<br />
<br />
{{tutormv/header|bw|none|yes}}<br />
{{tutormv|Grass Pledge|Grass|cat=Special|loc=[[Driftveil City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Fire Pledge|Fire|cat=Special|loc=[[Driftveil City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Water Pledge|Water|cat=Special|loc=[[Driftveil City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Frenzy Plant|Grass|cat=Special|loc={{rt|13|Unova}}}}<br />
{{tutormv|Blast Burn|Fire|cat=Special|loc={{rt|13|Unova}}}}<br />
{{tutormv|Hydro Cannon|Water|cat=Special|loc={{rt|13|Unova}}}}<br />
{{tutormv|Draco Meteor|Dragon|cat=Special|loc=[[Opelucid City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Relic Song|Normal|cat=Special|loc={{DL|Castelia City|Café Sonata}}}}<br />
{{tutormv|Secret Sword|Fighting|cat=Special|loc=[[Moor of Icirrus]]}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Black 2 and White 2===<br />
====Free Move Tutors====<br />
{{tutormv/header|b2w2|none|yes}}<br />
{{tutormv|Blast Burn|Fire|cat=Special|loc=[[Pokémon World Tournament]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Draco Meteor|Dragon|cat=Special|loc=[[Opelucid City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Fire Pledge|Fire|cat=Special|loc=[[Pokémon World Tournament]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Frenzy Plant|Grass|cat=Special|loc=[[Pokémon World Tournament]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Grass Pledge|Grass|cat=Special|loc=[[Pokémon World Tournament]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Hydro Cannon|Water|cat=Special|loc=[[Pokémon World Tournament]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Relic Song|Normal|cat=Special|loc={{DL|Castelia City|Café Sonata}}}}<br />
{{tutormv|Secret Sword|Fighting|cat=Special|loc=[[Pledge Grove]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Water Pledge|Water|cat=Special|loc=[[Pokémon World Tournament]]}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
====Shard Move Tutors====<br />
There are Move Tutors that teach moves for 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, or 12 of a specific color of [[Shard]]. These Move Tutors can be found in [[Driftveil City]], [[Lentimas Town]], [[Humilau City]] and [[Nacrene City]].<br />
<br />
The [[Driftveil City]] tutor teaches moves in exchange for [[Red Shard]]s. The [[Lentimas Town]] tutor teaches moves in exchange for [[Blue Shard]]s. The [[Humilau City]] tutor teaches moves in exchange for [[Yellow Shard]]s. The [[Nacrene City]] tutor teaches moves in exchange for [[Green Shard]]s.<br />
<br />
{| style="margin:auto"<br />
| style="vertical-align:top" |<br />
{{tutormv/header|b2w2|shard|no|disp={{color2|FFF|Driftveil City}}}}<br />
{{tutormv|Covet|Normal|cat=Physical|2}}<br />
{{tutormv|Bug Bite|Bug|cat=Physical|2}}<br />
{{tutormv|Drill Run|Ground|cat=Physical|4}}<br />
{{tutormv|Bounce|Flying|cat=Physical|4}}<br />
{{tutormv|Signal Beam|Bug|cat=Special|4}}<br />
{{tutormv|Iron Head|Steel|cat=Physical|4}}<br />
{{tutormv|Super Fang|Normal|cat=Physical|6}}<br />
{{tutormv|Uproar|Normal|cat=Special|6}}<br />
{{tutormv|Seed Bomb|Grass|cat=Physical|6}}<br />
{{tutormv|Dual Chop|Dragon|cat=Physical|6}}<br />
{{tutormv|Low Kick|Fighting|cat=Physical|8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Gunk Shot|Poison|cat=Physical|8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Fire Punch|Fire|cat=Physical|10}}<br />
{{tutormv|ThunderPunch|Electric|cat=Physical|10}}<br />
{{tutormv|Ice Punch|Ice|cat=Physical|10}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
| style="vertical-align:top" |<br />
{{tutormv/header|b2w2|shard|no|disp={{color2|FFF|Lentimas Town}}}}<br />
{{tutormv|Last Resort|Normal|cat=Physical|||2}}<br />
{{tutormv|Iron Defense|Steel|cat=Status|||2}}<br />
{{tutormv|Magnet Rise|Electric|cat=Status|||4}}<br />
{{tutormv|Magic Coat|Psychic|cat=Status|||4}}<br />
{{tutormv|Block|Normal|cat=Status|||6}}<br />
{{tutormv|Hyper Voice|Normal|cat=Special|||6}}<br />
{{tutormv|Electroweb|Electric|cat=Special|||6}}<br />
{{tutormv|Icy Wind|Ice|cat=Special|||6}}<br />
{{tutormv|Iron Tail|Steel|cat=Physical|||6}}<br />
{{tutormv|Aqua Tail|Water|cat=Physical|||8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Earth Power|Ground|cat=Special|||8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|cat=Physical|||8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Foul Play|Dark|cat=Physical|||8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Superpower|Fighting|cat=Physical|||10}}<br />
{{tutormv|Gravity|Psychic|cat=Status|||10}}<br />
{{tutormv|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|cat=Special|||10}}<br />
{{tutormv|Dark Pulse|Dark|cat=Special|||10}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
| style="vertical-align:top" |<br />
{{tutormv/header|b2w2|shard|no|disp={{color2|FFF|Humilau City}}}}<br />
{{tutormv|Bind|Normal|cat=Physical||||2}}<br />
{{tutormv|Snore|Normal|cat=Special||||2}}<br />
{{tutormv|Heal Bell|Normal|cat=Status||||4}}<br />
{{tutormv|Knock Off|Dark|cat=Physical||||4}}<br />
{{tutormv|Synthesis|Grass|cat=Status||||6}}<br />
{{tutormv|Roost|Flying|cat=Status||||6}}<br />
{{tutormv|Sky Attack|Flying|cat=Physical||||8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Role Play|Psychic|cat=Status||||8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Heat Wave|Fire|cat=Special||||10}}<br />
{{tutormv|Giga Drain|Grass|cat=Special||||10}}<br />
{{tutormv|Drain Punch|Fighting|cat=Physical||||10}}<br />
{{tutormv|Pain Split|Normal|cat=Status||||10}}<br />
{{tutormv|Tailwind|Flying|cat=Status||||10}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
| style="vertical-align:top" |<br />
{{tutormv/header|b2w2|shard|no|disp={{color2|FFF|Nacrene City}}}}<br />
{{tutormv|Worry Seed|Grass|cat=Status||6}}<br />
{{tutormv|Gastro Acid|Poison|cat=Status||6}}<br />
{{tutormv|Helping Hand|Normal|cat=Status||8}}<br />
{{tutormv|After You|Normal|cat=Status||8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Magic Room|Psychic|cat=Status||8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Wonder Room|Psychic|cat=Status||8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Spite|Ghost|cat=Status||8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Recycle|Normal|cat=Status||10}}<br />
{{tutormv|Trick|Psychic|cat=Status||10}}<br />
{{tutormv|Stealth Rock|Rock|cat=Status||10}}<br />
{{tutormv|Outrage|Dragon|cat=Physical||10}}<br />
{{tutormv|Endeavor|Normal|cat=Physical||12}}<br />
{{tutormv|Sleep Talk|Normal|cat=Status||12}}<br />
{{tutormv|Skill Swap|Psychic|cat=Status||12}}<br />
{{tutormv|Snatch|Dark|cat=Status||12}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Generation VI==<br />
===X and Y===<br />
{{tutormv/header|xy|none|yes}}<br />
{{tutormv|Grass Pledge|Grass|cat=Special|loc=[[Laverre City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Fire Pledge|Fire|cat=Special|loc=[[Laverre City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Water Pledge|Water|cat=Special|loc=[[Laverre City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Frenzy Plant|Grass|cat=Special|loc=[[Snowbelle City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Blast Burn|Fire|cat=Special|loc=[[Snowbelle City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Hydro Cannon|Water|cat=Special|loc=[[Snowbelle City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Relic Song|Normal|cat=Special|loc=[[Snowbelle City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Secret Sword|Fighting|cat=Special|loc=[[Snowbelle City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Draco Meteor|Dragon|cat=Special|loc=[[Kalos Route 21|Route 21]]}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire===<br />
====Free Move Tutors====<br />
{{tutormv/header|oras|none|yes}}<br />
{{tutormv|Grass Pledge|Grass|cat=Special|loc=[[Mauville City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Fire Pledge|Fire|cat=Special|loc=[[Mauville City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Water Pledge|Water|cat=Special|loc=[[Mauville City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Frenzy Plant|Grass|cat=Special|loc=[[Mauville City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Blast Burn|Fire|cat=Special|loc=[[Mauville City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Hydro Cannon|Water|cat=Special|loc=[[Mauville City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Relic Song|Normal|cat=Special|loc=[[Mauville City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Secret Sword|Fighting|cat=Special|loc=[[Mauville City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Draco Meteor|Dragon|cat=Special|loc=[[Sootopolis City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Dragon Ascent|Flying|cat=Physical|loc=[[Meteor Falls]]}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
====Battle Resort Move Tutors====<br />
Move Tutors are available at the [[Battle Resort]], immediately left of the Pokémon Center. Four Tutors have set up stands next to each other, and will teach Pokémon moves in exchange for [[Battle Point]]s. The Tutors are not identified in any manner, so the moves taught at each are as follows, in order from left to right:<br />
<br />
{| style="margin:auto"<br />
| style="vertical-align:top" |<br />
{{tutormv/header|oras|BP|no}}<br />
{{tutormv|Bind|Normal|cat=Physical|bp=4}}<br />
{{tutormv|Snore|Normal|cat=Special|bp=4}}<br />
{{tutormv|Water Pulse|Water|cat=Special|bp=4}}<br />
{{tutormv|Shock Wave|Electric|cat=Special|bp=4}}<br />
{{tutormv|Bug Bite|Bug|cat=Physical|bp=4}}<br />
{{tutormv|Covet|Normal|cat=Physical|bp=4}}<br />
{{tutormv|Low Kick|Fighting|cat=Physical|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Signal Beam|Bug|cat=Special|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Giga Drain|Grass|cat=Special|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Thunder Punch|Electric|cat=Physical|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Fire Punch|Fire|cat=Physical|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Ice Punch|Ice|cat=Physical|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Drain Punch|Fighting|cat=Physical|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Knock Off|Dark|cat=Physical|bp=12}}<br />
{{tutormv|Super Fang|Normal|cat=Physical|bp=12}}<br />
{{tutormv|Dual Chop|Dragon|cat=Physical|bp=12}}<br />
{{tutormv|Endeavor|Normal|cat=Physical|bp=16}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
| style="vertical-align:top" |<br />
{{tutormv/header|oras|BP|no}}<br />
{{tutormv|Uproar|Normal|cat=Special|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Iron Tail|Steel|cat=Physical|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Bounce|Flying|cat=Physical|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Drill Run|Ground|cat=Physical|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Iron Head|Steel|cat=Physical|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|cat=Physical|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Aqua Tail|Water|cat=Physical|bp=12}}<br />
{{tutormv|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|cat=Special|bp=12}}<br />
{{tutormv|Seed Bomb|Grass|cat=Physical|bp=12}}<br />
{{tutormv|Heat Wave|Fire|cat=Special|bp=12}}<br />
{{tutormv|Last Resort|Normal|cat=Physical|bp=12}}<br />
{{tutormv|Hyper Voice|Normal|cat=Special|bp=12}}<br />
{{tutormv|Foul Play|Dark|cat=Physical|bp=12}}<br />
{{tutormv|Earth Power|Ground|cat=Special|bp=12}}<br />
{{tutormv|Outrage|Dragon|cat=Physical|bp=16}}<br />
{{tutormv|Superpower|Fighting|cat=Physical|bp=16}}<br />
{{tutormv|Gunk Shot|Poison|cat=Physical|bp=16}}<br />
{{tutormv|Sky Attack|Flying|cat=Physical|bp=16}}<br />
{{tutormv|Focus Punch|Fighting|cat=Physical|bp=16}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
| style="vertical-align:top" |<br />
{{tutormv/header|oras|BP|no}}<br />
{{tutormv|Block|Normal|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Skill Swap|Psychic|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Synthesis|Grass|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Role Play|Psychic|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Pain Split|Normal|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Gastro Acid|Poison|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Worry Seed|Grass|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Spite|Ghost|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|After You|Normal|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Helping Hand|Normal|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Trick|Psychic|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Recycle|Normal|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Snatch|Dark|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Magic Coat|Psychic|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Magnet Rise|Electric|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Iron Defense|Steel|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
| style="vertical-align:top" |<br />
{{tutormv/header|oras|BP|no}}<br />
{{tutormv|Heal Bell|Normal|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Tailwind|Flying|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Magic Room|Psychic|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Wonder Room|Psychic|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Stealth Rock|Rock|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Gravity|Psychic|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Electroweb|Electric|cat=Special|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Icy Wind|Ice|cat=Special|bp=12}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Generation VII==<br />
===Sun and Moon===<br />
<br />
There are multiple Move Tutors in Alola. One Move Tutor, a female [[Ace Trainer]], in the [[Seafolk Village]] Pokémon Center teaches {{m|Draco Meteor}} to a Dragon-type Pokémon which has had its [[friendship]] maximized. The other Move Tutor in the same Pokémon Center will teach [[Rayquaza]] its signature move, [[Dragon Ascent]] without a friendship requirement. The [[Hau'oli City]] Move Tutor can teach an elemental Pledge-move or one of the elemental versions of {{m|Hyper Beam}} to eligible Pokémon with maximum friendship.<br />
<br />
{{tutormv/header|sm|none|yes}}<br />
{{tutormv|Grass Pledge|Grass|cat=Special|loc=[[Hau'oli City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Fire Pledge|Fire|cat=Special|loc=[[Hau'oli City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Water Pledge|Water|cat=Special|loc=[[Hau'oli City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Frenzy Plant|Grass|cat=Special|loc=[[Hau'oli City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Blast Burn|Fire|cat=Special|loc=[[Hau'oli City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Hydro Cannon|Water|cat=Special|loc=[[Hau'oli City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Volt Tackle|Electric|cat=Physical|loc=[[Konikoni City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Secret Sword|Fighting|cat=Special|loc=[[Hano Grand Resort]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Relic Song|Normal|cat=Special|loc=[[Hano Grand Resort]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Draco Meteor|Dragon|cat=Special|loc=[[Seafolk Village]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Dragon Ascent|Flying|cat=Physical|loc=[[Seafolk Village]]}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon===<br />
====Free Move Tutors====<br />
{{tutormv/header|usum|none|yes}}<br />
{{tutormv|Grass Pledge|Grass|cat=Special|loc=[[Hau'oli City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Fire Pledge|Fire|cat=Special|loc=[[Hau'oli City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Water Pledge|Water|cat=Special|loc=[[Hau'oli City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Frenzy Plant|Grass|cat=Special|loc=[[Hau'oli City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Blast Burn|Fire|cat=Special|loc=[[Hau'oli City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Hydro Cannon|Water|cat=Special|loc=[[Hau'oli City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Volt Tackle|Electric|cat=Physical|loc=[[Hano Grand Resort]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Secret Sword|Fighting|cat=Special|loc=[[Hano Grand Resort]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Relic Song|Normal|cat=Special|loc=[[Hano Grand Resort]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Draco Meteor|Dragon|cat=Special|loc=[[Seafolk Village]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Dragon Ascent|Flying|cat=Physical|loc=[[Seafolk Village]]}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
====Battle Point Move Tutors====<br />
Move Tutors are available in certain tents at the various beaches on {{isl|Melemele}}, {{isl|Akala}}, and [[Ula'ula Island]]s, and at the [[Battle Tree]] on [[Poni Island]]. They will teach Pokémon moves for [[Battle Point]]s (also referred to as Beach Points at the beaches). The moves taught at each are as follows, in order from left to right:<br />
<br />
{| style="margin:auto"<br />
| style="vertical-align:top" |<br />
{{tutormv/header|usum|BP|no|disp={{color2|000|Big Wave Beach}}}}<br />
{{tutormv|Snore|Normal|cat=Special|bp=4}}<br />
{{tutormv|Heal Bell|Normal|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Electroweb|Electric|cat=Special|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Defog|Flying|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Low Kick|Fighting|cat=Physical|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Uproar|Normal|cat=Special|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Bind|Normal|cat=Physical|bp=4}}<br />
{{tutormv|Helping Hand|Normal|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Shock Wave|Electric|cat=Special|bp=4}}<br />
{{tutormv|Block|Normal|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Last Resort|Normal|cat=Physical|bp=12}}<br />
{{tutormv|Worry Seed|Grass|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Covet|Normal|cat=Physical|bp=4}}<br />
{{tutormv|Bug Bite|Bug|cat=Physical|bp=4}}<br />
{{tutormv|Snatch|Dark|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Recycle|Normal|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
| style="vertical-align:top" |<br />
{{tutormv/header|usum|BP|no|disp={{color2|000|Heahea Beach}}}}<br />
{{tutormv|Iron Tail|Steel|cat=Physical|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Spite|Ghost|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|After You|Normal|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Giga Drain|Grass|cat=Special|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Synthesis|Grass|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Ally Switch|Psychic|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Signal Beam|Bug|cat=Special|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Gravity|Psychic|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Stealth Rock|Rock|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Iron Defense|Steel|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Telekinesis|Psychic|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Magnet Rise|Electric|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Bounce|Flying|cat=Physical|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Role Play|Psychic|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Fire Punch|Fire|cat=Physical|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Water Pulse|Water|cat=Special|bp=4}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
| style="vertical-align:top" |<br />
{{tutormv/header|usum|BP|no|disp={{color2|000|Ula'ula Beach}}}}<br />
{{tutormv|Iron Head|Steel|cat=Physical|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Aqua Tail|Water|cat=Physical|bp=12}}<br />
{{tutormv|Pain Split|Normal|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Tailwind|Flying|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Thunder Punch|Electric|cat=Physical|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Endeavor|Normal|cat=Physical|bp=16}}<br />
{{tutormv|Focus Punch|Fighting|cat=Physical|bp=16}}<br />
{{tutormv|Icy Wind|Ice|cat=Special|bp=12}}<br />
{{tutormv|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|cat=Physical|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Seed Bomb|Grass|cat=Physical|bp=12}}<br />
{{tutormv|Laser Focus|Normal|cat=Status|bp=12}}<br />
{{tutormv|Trick|Psychic|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Drill Run|Ground|cat=Physical|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Magic Coat|Psychic|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Ice Punch|Ice|cat=Physical|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Magic Room|Psychic|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Wonder Room|Psychic|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
| style="vertical-align:top" |<br />
{{tutormv/header|usum|BP|no|disp={{color2|000|Battle Tree}}}}<br />
{{tutormv|Liquidation|Water|cat=Physical|bp=16}}<br />
{{tutormv|Gastro Acid|Poison|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Foul Play|Dark|cat=Physical|bp=12}}<br />
{{tutormv|Super Fang|Normal|cat=Physical|bp=12}}<br />
{{tutormv|Outrage|Dragon|cat=Physical|bp=16}}<br />
{{tutormv|Sky Attack|Flying|cat=Physical|bp=16}}<br />
{{tutormv|Throat Chop|Dark|cat=Physical|bp=16}}<br />
{{tutormv|Stomping Tantrum|Ground|cat=Physical|bp=12}}<br />
{{tutormv|Skill Swap|Psychic|cat=Status|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Earth Power|Ground|cat=Special|bp=12}}<br />
{{tutormv|Gunk Shot|Poison|cat=Physical|bp=16}}<br />
{{tutormv|Dual Chop|Dragon|cat=Physical|bp=12}}<br />
{{tutormv|Drain Punch|Fighting|cat=Physical|bp=8}}<br />
{{tutormv|Heat Wave|Fire|cat=Special|bp=12}}<br />
{{tutormv|Hyper Voice|Normal|cat=Special|bp=12}}<br />
{{tutormv|Superpower|Fighting|cat=Physical|bp=16}}<br />
{{tutormv|Knock Off|Dark|cat=Physical|bp=12}}<br />
{{tutormv|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|cat=Special|bp=12}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!===<br />
The moves the Move Tutors teach in [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!|Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]] are all version-exclusive and all pertain to the {{player}}'s {{ga|Partner Pokémon}}. Once a Tutor from a later location has been visited, a Tutor from a previous location will teach new moves that the later Tutor offers.<br />
{| style="margin:auto"<br />
| style="vertical-align:top" |<br />
{{tutormv/header|Let's Go Pikachu|none|yes|disp={{color2|000|Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!|Let's Go, Pikachu!}}}}<br />
{{tutormv|Zippy Zap|Electric|cat=Physical|loc=[[Cerulean City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Floaty Fall|Flying|cat=Physical|loc=[[Celadon City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Splishy Splash|Water|cat=Special|loc=[[Fuchsia City]]}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
| style="vertical-align:top" |<br />
{{tutormv/header|Let's Go Eevee|none|yes|disp={{color2|000|Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!|Let's Go, Eevee!}}}}<br />
{{tutormv|Bouncy Bubble|Water|cat=Special|loc=[[Cerulean City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Buzzy Buzz|Electric|cat=Special|loc=[[Cerulean City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Sizzly Slide|Fire|cat=Physical|loc=[[Cerulean City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Glitzy Glow|Psychic|cat=Special|loc=[[Celadon City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Baddy Bad|Dark|cat=Special|loc=[[Celadon City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Sappy Seed|Grass|cat=Physical|loc=[[Fuchsia City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Freezy Frost|Ice|cat=Special|loc=[[Fuchsia City]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Sparkly Swirl|Fairy|cat=Special|loc=[[Fuchsia City]]}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Generation VIII==<br />
===Sword and Shield===<br />
====Free Move Tutors====<br />
{{tutormv/header|swsh|none|yes}}<br />
{{tutormv|Grass Pledge|Grass|cat=Special|loc=[[Hammerlocke]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Fire Pledge|Fire|cat=Special|loc=[[Hammerlocke]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Water Pledge|Water|cat=Special|loc=[[Hammerlocke]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Draco Meteor|Dragon|cat=Special|loc=[[Circhester]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Frenzy Plant|Grass|cat=Special|loc=[[Wyndon]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Blast Burn|Fire|cat=Special|loc=[[Wyndon]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Hydro Cannon|Water|cat=Special|loc=[[Wyndon]]}}<br />
{{tutormv|Steel Beam|Steel|cat=Special|loc=[[Motostoke]] (after becoming {{pkmn|Champion}})}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
===={{g|Sword and Shield Expansion Pass}}====<br />
In [[The Isle of Armor]], 18 new moves (one for each type) were introduced that can only be learned via Move Tutor, made available at the [[Master Dojo]] after the player clears [[Mustard]]'s first trial. Players may exchange five [[Armorite Ore]] to teach their Pokémon one of these moves.<br />
<br />
{{tutormv/header|Galar|none|no}}<br />
{{tutormv|Terrain Pulse|Normal|cat=Special}}<br />
{{tutormv|Burning Jealousy|Fire|cat=Special}}<br />
{{tutormv|Flip Turn|Water|cat=Physical}}<br />
{{tutormv|Grassy Glide|Grass|cat=Physical}}<br />
{{tutormv|Rising Voltage|Electric|cat=Special}}<br />
{{tutormv|Coaching|Fighting|cat=Status}}<br />
{{tutormv|Scorching Sands|Ground|cat=Special}}<br />
{{tutormv|Dual Wingbeat|Flying|cat=Physical}}<br />
{{tutormv|Meteor Beam|Rock|cat=Special}}<br />
{{tutormv|Skitter Smack|Bug|cat=Physical}}<br />
{{tutormv|Triple Axel|Ice|cat=Physical}}<br />
{{tutormv|Corrosive Gas|Poison|cat=Status}}<br />
{{tutormv|Expanding Force|Psychic|cat=Special}}<br />
{{tutormv|Poltergeist|Ghost|cat=Physical}}<br />
{{tutormv|Scale Shot|Dragon|cat=Physical}}<br />
{{tutormv|Lash Out|Dark|cat=Physical}}<br />
{{tutormv|Steel Roller|Steel|cat=Physical}}<br />
{{tutormv|Misty Explosion|Fairy|cat=Special}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl===<br />
Both Move Tutors remain the same as in Diamond and Pearl.<br />
<br />
{{tutormv/header|bdsp|none|yes}}<br />
{{tutormv|Blast Burn|Fire|cat=Special|loc={{rt|228|Sinnoh}}}}<br />
{{tutormv|Draco Meteor|Dragon|cat=Special|loc={{rt|210|Sinnoh}}}}<br />
{{tutormv|Frenzy Plant|Grass|cat=Special|loc={{rt|228|Sinnoh}}}}<br />
{{tutormv|Hydro Cannon|Water|cat=Special|loc={{rt|228|Sinnoh}}}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Legends: Arceus===<br />
{{incomplete|section|unlock conditions}}<br />
In {{g|Legends: Arceus}}, [[Zisu]] will teach moves to the {{player}}'s Pokémon in exchange for [[Pokémon Dollar|money]]. This is the only way for Pokémon to learn moves outside of [[level]]ing up, as [[TM]]s and [[Egg Move]]s do not exist in this game. As with moves learned by leveling up, moves taught by Zisu are permanently retained, and they can be added or removed from the Pokémon's move set at any time. If a move is outside the level-up learnset, a [[Seed of Mastery]] is required to [[move mastery|master]] it, unlocking its agile style and strong style. <br />
<br />
Additionally:<br />
* {{m|Draco Meteor}} can only be taught to {{type|Dragon}} Pokémon, plus {{p|Arceus}}.<br />
* {{m|Steel Beam}} can only be taught to {{type|Steel}} Pokémon, plus Arceus.<br />
* {{m|Volt Tackle}} can only be taught to the {{p|Pikachu}} evolutionary line.<br />
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{{tutormv/header|Legends: Arceus|BP|no}}<br />
{{movelist|False Swipe|Normal|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}200}}<br />
{{movelist|Fire Fang|Fire|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}500}}<br />
{{movelist|Thunder Fang|Electric|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}500}}<br />
{{movelist|Ice Fang|Ice|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}500}}<br />
{{movelist|Ice Ball|Ice|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}500}}<br />
{{movelist|Rock Smash|Fighting|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}500}}<br />
{{movelist|Spikes|Ground|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}500}}<br />
{{movelist|Bulldoze|Ground|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}500}}<br />
{{movelist|Aerial Ace|Flying|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}500}}<br />
{{movelist|Stealth Rock|Rock|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}1,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Swift|Normal|cat=Special|{{PDollar}}1,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Tri Attack|Normal|cat=Special|{{PDollar}}1,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Magical Leaf|Grass|cat=Special|{{PDollar}}1,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Ominous Wind|Ghost|cat=Special|{{PDollar}}1,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Power Shift|Normal|cat=Status|{{PDollar}}1,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Focus Energy|Normal|cat=Status|{{PDollar}}1,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Bulk Up|Fighting|cat=Status|{{PDollar}}1,500}}<br />
{{movelist|Calm Mind|Psychic|cat=Status|{{PDollar}}1,500}}<br />
{{movelist|Rest|Psychic|cat=Status|{{PDollar}}1,500}}<br />
{{movelist|Baby-Doll Eyes|Fairy|cat=Status|{{PDollar}}1,500}}<br />
{{movelist|Fire Punch|Fire|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}2,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Thunder Punch|Electric|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}2,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Ice Punch|Ice|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}2,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Drain Punch|Fighting|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}2,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Poison Jab|Poison|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}2,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Psycho Cut|Psychic|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}2,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}2,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Leech Life|Bug|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}2,000}}<br />
{{movelist|X-Scissor|Bug|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}2,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Rock Slide|Rock|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}2,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Shadow Claw|Ghost|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}2,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Iron Head|Steel|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}2,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Iron Tail|Steel|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}2,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Mystical Fire|Fire|cat=Special|{{PDollar}}2,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Water Pulse|Water|cat=Special|{{PDollar}}2,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Charge Beam|Electric|cat=Special|{{PDollar}}2,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Energy Ball|Grass|cat=Special|{{PDollar}}2,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Icy Wind|Ice|cat=Special|{{PDollar}}2,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Sludge Bomb|Poison|cat=Special|{{PDollar}}2,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Earth Power|Ground|cat=Special|{{PDollar}}2,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Shadow Ball|Ghost|cat=Special|{{PDollar}}2,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Snarl|Dark|cat=Special|{{PDollar}}2,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Flash Cannon|Steel|cat=Special|{{PDollar}}2,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Dazzling Gleam|Fairy|cat=Special|{{PDollar}}2,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Giga Impact|Normal|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}4,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Aqua Tail|Water|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}3,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Wild Charge|Electric|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}3,000}}<br />
{{movelist|High Horsepower|Ground|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}3,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Megahorn|Bug|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}3,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Stone Edge|Rock|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}3,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Outrage|Dragon|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}3,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Play Rough|Fairy|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}3,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Hyper Beam|Normal|cat=Special|{{PDollar}}4,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Flamethrower|Fire|cat=Special|{{PDollar}}3,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Thunderbolt|Electric|cat=Special|{{PDollar}}3,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Ice Beam|Ice|cat=Special|{{PDollar}}3,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Psychic|Psychic|cat=Special|{{PDollar}}3,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Dark Pulse|Dark|cat=Special|{{PDollar}}3,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Draco Meteor|Dragon|cat=Special|{{PDollar}}3,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Steel Beam|Steel|cat=Special|{{PDollar}}4,000}}<br />
{{movelist|Volt Tackle|Electric|cat=Physical|{{PDollar}}3,000}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
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==In other games==<br />
===PokéPark Wii: Pikachu's Adventure===<br />
In [[PokéPark Wii: Pikachu's Adventure]], {{p|Electabuzz}} and {{p|Primeape}} will teach the player {{m|Thunderbolt}} and {{m|Iron Tail}}, respectively. This will drastically enhance Pikachu's performance in battle. Though Electabuzz does not actually teach Pikachu how to use Thunderbolt, he does help strengthen its power.<br />
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===Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon===<br />
{{main|Hawlucha's Slam School}}<br />
In [[Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon]], once the story arc of the game's Epilogue has been completed, [[Hawlucha's Slam School]] will gain the option to teach any [[Connection Orb|connected]] Pokémon various moves in return for a large amount of [[Poké]]. The moves available include all moves taught by the Move Tutors in [[#Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire]], {{m|Volt Tackle}}, and all moves known by one of the game's starter Pokémon at the beginning (these moves can only be taught to Pokémon in the same evolutionary family as the starter that had them).<br />
<br />
===Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Rescue Team DX===<br />
In {{g|Mystery Dungeon: Rescue Team DX}}, once the credits roll, Gulpin will gain the option to teach any [[Recruitment|recruited]] Pokémon various moves in return for a large amount of [[Poké]]. The moves available include all moves taught by the Move Tutors in [[#Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon]] except for {{m|Secret Sword}} and {{m|Relic Song}}, due to the absence of {{p|Keldeo}} and {{p|Meloetta}}, respectively. Unlike Super Mystery Dungeon, all moves known by one of the game's starter Pokémon at the beginning are learned through the [[Move Reminder|"Remember"]] option and are only available to the [[Player character|player]] and [[Partner Pokémon (Mystery Dungeon)|partner]].<br />
{|<br />
{{tutormv/header|mddx|BP|no}}<br />
{{Movelist|After You|Normal|cat=Status|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Ally Switch|Psychic|cat=Status|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]10,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Aqua Tail|Water|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Bind|Normal|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]7,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Blast Burn|Fire|cat=Special|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]11,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Block|Normal|cat=Status|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]7,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Bounce|Flying|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Bug Bite|Bug|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]7,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Covet|Normal|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]7,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Defog|Flying|cat=Status|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]10,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Draco Meteor|Dragon|cat=Special|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]11,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Dragon Ascent|Flying|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]7,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|cat=Special|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]9,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Drain Punch|Fighting|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Drill Run|Ground|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Dual Chop|Dragon|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]7,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Earth Power|Ground|cat=Special|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]10,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Electroweb|Electric|cat=Special|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Endeavor|Normal|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]7,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Fire Pledge|Fire|cat=Special|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]7,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Fire Punch|Fire|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Focus Punch|Fighting|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Foul Play|Dark|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]9,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Frenzy Plant|Grass|cat=Special|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]11,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Gastro Acid|Poison|cat=Status|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Giga Drain|Grass|cat=Special|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Grass Pledge|Grass|cat=Special|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]7,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Gravity|Psychic|cat=Status|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Gunk Shot|Poison|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]12,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Heal Bell|Normal|cat=Status|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Heat Wave|Fire|cat=Special|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]10,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Helping Hand|Normal|cat=Status|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Hydro Cannon|Water|cat=Special|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]11,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Hyper Voice|Normal|cat=Special|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]9,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Ice Punch|Ice|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Icy Wind|Ice|cat=Special|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]9,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Iron Defense|Steel|cat=Status|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Iron Head|Steel|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Iron Tail|Steel|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]9,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Knock Off|Dark|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]7,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Laser Focus|Normal|cat=Status|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]10,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Last Resort|Normal|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]7,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Liquidation|Water|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]10,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Low Kick|Fighting|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]7,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Magic Coat|Psychic|cat=Status|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Magic Room|Psychic|cat=Status|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Magnet Rise|Electric|cat=Status|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Outrage|Dragon|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]7,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Pain Split|Normal|cat=Status|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]7,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Recycle|Normal|cat=Status|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Role Play|Psychic|cat=Status|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]7,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Seed Bomb|Grass|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]9,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Shock Wave|Electric|cat=Special|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Signal Beam|Bug|cat=Special|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]9,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Skill Swap|Psychic|cat=Status|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Sky Attack|Flying|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Snatch|Dark|cat=Status|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Snore|Normal|cat=Special|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]9,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Spite|Ghost|cat=Status|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]7,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Stealth Rock|Rock|cat=Status|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Stomping Tantrum|Ground|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]10,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Super Fang|Normal|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]7,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Superpower|Fighting|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]10,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Synthesis|Grass|cat=Status|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Tailwind|Flying|cat=Status|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Telekinesis|Psychic|cat=Status|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]10,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Throat Chop|Dark|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]10,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Thunder Punch|Electric|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Trick|Psychic|cat=Status|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]7,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Uproar|Normal|cat=Special|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Volt Tackle|Electric|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]11,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Water Pledge|Water|cat=Special|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]7,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Water Pulse|Water|cat=Special|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]9,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Wonder Room|Psychic|cat=Status|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Worry Seed|Grass|cat=Status|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]9,000}}<br />
{{Movelist|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|cat=Physical|[[File:Poké currency.png|link=Poké]]8,000}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==In the anime==<br />
[[File:May Skitty Johnny Blizzard.png|thumb|250px|{{TP|May|Skitty}} learning {{m|Blizzard}} from {{DL|Dr. Abby|Johnny}} in the {{pkmn|anime}}]]<br />
In the anime, several characters comparable to Move Tutors have appeared. However, instead of directly teaching the move to a Pokémon, the "Move Tutors" in the anime usually tend to just show an example of the move they are teaching, and the Pokémon has to work hard in order to properly master it.<br />
<br />
In ''[[AG013|All Things Bright and Beautifly!]]'', a [[Pokémon Coordinator]] named {{an|Chaz}} offered to help {{Ash}} teach his {{AP|Pikachu}} {{m|Iron Tail}} in preparation for his [[Rustboro Gym]] battle with [[Roxanne]], demonstrating the move with his {{p|Sentret}}. Although Pikachu started learning the move in the same episode, it took him until ''[[AG016|The Winner By a Nosepass]]'' and the Gym battle with Roxanne to perfect the move.<br />
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In ''[[AG060|Delcatty Got Your Tongue]]'', {{an|May}} was impressed by the moves used by Johnny, a {{p|Delcatty}} belonging to [[Dr. Abby]]. May wanted her {{TP|May|Skitty}} to learn {{m|Blizzard}}, but she was unsure in her own abilities and thought she would not be able to teach her Pokémon to use the move the way Abby, a [[Top Coordinator]], had taught Johnny. Abby told Skitty to mimic Johnny and, after a bit of practice, Skitty successfully used Blizzard. The move was mastered in ''[[AG062|Disguise Da Limit]]'', during the {{to|Verdanturf}} {{pkmn|Contest}}.<br />
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In ''[[AG090|Pokéblock, Stock, and Berry]]'', when Ash was having trouble of teaching his {{AP|Swellow}} {{m|Aerial Ace}}, a man named "[[Vladimir]] the Attacker" offered to teach Ash how to use the move properly, using his {{p|Pidgeotto}}'s Aerial Ace as a demonstration. Swellow managed to master the move in [[AG091|the next episode]].<br />
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In ''[[DP060|Journey to the Unown!]]'', after seeing {{si|Kenny}}'s {{p|Breloom}}'s {{m|Energy Ball}}, Ash asked Kenny to help his {{AP|Turtwig}} learn the same move. Kenny eventually agreed to teach Energy Ball to Turtwig, and, after many failures, the move was finally perfected in ''[[DP064|Riding the Winds of Change!]]''. According to Kenny, learning the move would have been easier if Turtwig had known {{m|Bullet Seed}}, since the two attacks require the same kind of focusing of power.<br />
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In ''[[DP067|Crossing the Battle Line!]]'', [[Reggie]] and his {{p|Staraptor}} helped [[Ash's Staravia]] learn {{m|Brave Bird}}. The move was perfected by the time of Ash's [[Veilstone Gym]] battle with [[Maylene]] in [[DP068|the next episode]].<br />
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In ''[[DP156|A Meteoric Rise to Excellence!]]'', Ash and {{ashfr}} met an old woman named [[Wilma]], who was teaching {{m|Draco Meteor}} to an {{p|Altaria}}. She explained that Trainers leave their {{type|Dragon}} Pokémon under her care so they can learn Draco Meteor, and Altaria was one of the Pokémon she was teaching at the time.<br />
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In ''[[DP159|Short and To the Punch!]]'', [[Clayton]] and his {{p|Mr. Mime}} helped [[Ash's Buizel]] learn {{m|Ice Punch}} by practicing on a waterfall.<br />
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In ''[[SM097|No Stone Unturned!]]'', the {{DL|Toucannon's flock|Toucannon}} and {{DL|Toucannon's flock|Trumbeak}} that used to care for [[Ash's Rowlet]] before it joined its Trainer tried teaching it Bullet Seed, despite {{p|Rowlet}} being incapable of using the move. With the help of family new and old, Rowlet was able to apply these lessons to learn {{m|Seed Bomb}} instead.<br />
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In ''[[SM132|Imitation Is the Sincerest Form of Strategy!]]'', Toucannon returned to help teach Rowlet {{m|Feather Dance}}. Rowlet mastered the move during Ash's [[Manalo Conference]] battle against [[Hau]] in [[SM133|the next episode]]. Unlike with Toucannon, however, Rowlet's Feather Dance ended up becoming similar to {{m|Substitute}}, creating a feathery copy of Rowlet to take the attack targeted at it.<br />
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==In the manga==<br />
[[File:Early TM Adventures.png|thumb|150px|Ultima's bracelets and Zinnia's scroll in [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]<br />
===Pokémon Adventures===<br />
===={{chap|FireRed & LeafGreen}}====<br />
In ''[[PS272|Old Ultima Puts Them to the Test]]'', an old woman named [[Ultima]] offered to teach {{adv|Red}}'s [[Saur]] and [[Blue's Charizard]] the "ultimate moves" of their respective types. For the training, the two Trainers received special bracelets, which would only remove themselves from their wrists once they had mastered their moves. [[PS274|After]] crossing three sets of tests on [[Two Island]], Red and {{adv|Blue}} mastered their respective ultimate moves: {{m|Frenzy Plant}} and {{m|Blast Burn}}. Ultima also [[PS284|later]] taught {{m|Hydro Cannon}} to {{adv|Green}}'s [[Blasty]], by the girl's own request.<br />
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===={{chap|Emerald}}====<br />
Emerald visited a Move Tutor off-panel before ''[[PS320|Verily Vanquishing Vileplume II]]'', where he was shown to have taught his {{TP|Emerald|Dusclops}} {{m|Fire Punch}} with the [[Battle Point]]s he had earned in preparation for his [[Battle Dome]] challenge, where the move proved its usefulness by easily taking out {{tc|Aroma Lady}} Rose's {{p|Vileplume}}.<br />
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In ''[[PS330|The Final Battle III]]'', Crystal revealed that she and {{adv|Gold}} had been tutored by Ultima and managed to master the ultimate moves with their respective [[starter Pokémon]]: [[Exbo]] and [[Megaree]].<br />
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During the climax of the chapter, {{adv|Silver}}, {{adv|Ruby}}, {{adv|Sapphire}}, and {{adv|Emerald}} were each given one of Ultima's bracelets, allowing their respective starters, {{TP|Silver|Feraligatr}}, [[Mumu]], [[Chic]], and {{TP|Emerald|Sceptile}}, to learn the ultimate moves as well. Using these skills (combined with [[Pika]], [[Chuchu]], and [[Pibu]]'s {{m|Volt Tackle}}), the [[Pokédex holder]]s were able to destroy the giant {{p|Kyogre}}-like monster summoned by [[Guile Hideout]]'s wish to {{adv|Jirachi}}.<br />
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===={{chap|Black & White}}====<br />
In ''[[PS491|Fight in a Cold Climate]]'', {{adv|Black}} and {{adv|Cheren}} visited the Move Tutor in Driftveil City and taught their [[Bo|Pignite]] and {{TP|Cheren|Snivy}} {{m|Fire Pledge}} and {{m|Grass Pledge}}, respectively. They later used these combination attacks to defeat a pair of {{tc|Team Plasma Grunt}}s and their {{p|Beartic}} at the [[Cold Storage]].<br />
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===={{chap|Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire}}====<br />
In ''[[PAORAS09|Omega Alpha Adventure 9]]'', Ruby stole a special [[Draconid people|Draconid]] scroll from [[Zinnia]], which Ultima later revealed to contain the essence of a move called {{m|Dragon Ascent}}. She explained that the scroll works in a similar way to her bracelets, making them both sort of primitive [[TM]]s. Ruby [[PAORAS15|later]] used the scroll to teach Dragon Ascent to {{DL|Super-ancient Pokémon (Adventures)|Rayquaza}}.<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
* In Pokémon Platinum, there are exactly two tutorable moves for every type except for the {{t|Normal}} type.<br />
* All of the tutorable moves in {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}} (with the exception of the three moves taught at [[Cape Brink]]) were previously teachable via TM in [[Generation I]]. Similarly, all of the tutorable moves in {{game|Emerald}} and {{Pokémon XD}} (with the exception of the moves that can only be taught to {{p|Mew}}) were previously teachable via TM in [[Generation I]] and/or [[Generation II]].<br />
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==In other languages==<br />
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[[it:Insegnamosse]]<br />
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[[zh:傳授招式]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pyrite_Colosseum&diff=3558640Pyrite Colosseum2022-08-23T05:13:53Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* Round 2 */ Corrected moveset error on Haxer's Wooper</p>
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<div>{{Infobox location<br />
|type=mountain<br />
|image=Pyrite Colosseum.png<br />
|size=220px<br />
|location_name=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|japanese_name=パイラコロシアム<br />
|translated_name=Pyra Colosseum<br />
|location=[[Pyrite Town]]<br />
|region=Orre<br />
|generation={{gen|III}}<br />
|map=Orre Pyrite Town Map.png<br />
|mapsize=250px<br />
}}<br />
'''Pyrite Colosseum''' (Japanese: '''パイラコロシアム''' ''Pyra Colosseum'') is the Colosseum in [[Pyrite Town]] in the [[Orre]] region. It appears in {{g|Colosseum}} and {{g|XD: Gale of Darkness}}. It is run by [[Duking]] and powered by the nearby windmill-driven power station.<br />
<br />
==Items==<br />
{{itlisth|mountain}}<br />
{{itemlist|TM Poison|Reward for clearing the Colosseum while it's under [[Miror B.]]'s control|Colo=yes|display={{TM|06|Toxic}}}}<br />
{{itemlist|TM Fighting|Reward for clearing Round 1 for the first time|Colo=yes|display={{TM|01|Focus Punch}}}}<br />
{{itemlist|TM Ice|Reward for clearing Round 2 for the first time|Colo=yes|display={{TM|07|Hail}}}}<br />
{{itemlist|TM Normal|Reward for clearing Round 3{{sup/ss|Colo}}/4{{sup/ss|XD}} for the first time|Colo=yes|XD=yes|display={{TM|05|Roar}}}}<br />
{{itemlist|TM Fighting|Reward for clearing Round 4{{sup/ss|Colo}}/1{{sup/ss|XD}} for the first time|Colo=yes|XD=yes|display={{TM|31|Brick Break}}}}<br />
{{itemlist|TM Dark|Reward for clearing Round 2 for the first time|XD=yes|display={{TM|12|Taunt}}}}<br />
{{itemlist|TM Dark|Reward for clearing Round 3 for the first time|XD=yes|display={{TM|41|Torment}}}}<br />
{{itlistfoot|mountain}}<br />
<br />
==Trainers==<br />
===Pokémon Colosseum===<br />
In {{g|Colosseum}}, {{tc|Cipher Admin}} [[Miror B.]] is behind a secret operation handing out [[Shadow Pokémon]] to winners of the tournament. After Miror B. is defeated at his hideout in [[Pyrite Cave]], the Colosseum returns to normal operation under Duking.<br />
<br />
====Story Mode====<br />
All Story Mode Colosseum challenges are conducted in [[Double Battle]] format.<br />
<br />
=====Before defeating Miror B.=====<br />
The {{player}} must clear this gauntlet to gain access to the [[Pyrite Bldg]].<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Hunter m.png{{!}}80px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Hoks<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Barboach<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=339<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=30<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Ground<br />
|ability=Oblivious<br />
|move1=Water Gun|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Secret Power|move2type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Sandshrew<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=027<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=31<br />
|type1=Ground<br />
|ability=Sand Veil<br />
|move1=Poison Sting|move1type=Poison<br />
|move2=Scratch|move2type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Chaser f 2.png{{!}}90px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Tisler<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Natu<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=177<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=30<br />
|type1=Psychic|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Leer|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Peck|move2type=Flying}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Meditite<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=307<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=30<br />
|type1=Fighting|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Pure Power<br />
|move1=Confusion|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Hidden Power|move2type=Fighting}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Bandana Guy.png{{!}}70px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Bandana Guy<br />
|name=Vilch<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Electrike<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=309<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=30<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Howl|move2type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Cacnea<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=331<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=31<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|ability=Sand Veil<br />
|move1=Poison Sting|move1type=Poison<br />
|move2=Absorb|move2type=Grass}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Vulpix<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=037<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=32<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|ability=Flash Fire<br />
|move1=Ember|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Bodybuilder m 3.png{{!}}85px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Bodybuilder<br />
|name=Mirez<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=371<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Bagon<br />
|gender=male<br />
|type1=Dragon<br />
|ability=Rock Head<br />
|level=32<br />
|move1=Headbutt|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Rage|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Ember|move4type=Fire}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=118<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Goldeen<br />
|gender=female<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|ability=Water Veil<br />
|level=32<br />
|move1=Surf|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Peck|move2type=Flying<br />
|move3=Horn Attack|move3type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=081<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Magnemite<br />
|type1=Electric|type2=Steel<br />
|ability=Sturdy<br />
|level=31<br />
|move1=ThunderShock|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Metal Sound|move2type=Steel<br />
|move3=SonicBoom|move3type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=225<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Delibird<br />
|gender=female<br />
|type1=Ice|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Vital Spirit<br />
|level=34<br />
|move1=Present|move1type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
Defeating all of the Trainers earns the player {{PDollar}}4,848 and {{TM|06|Toxic}}.<br />
<br />
=====Round 1 (after defeating Miror B.)=====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Roller Boy.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Roller Boy<br />
|name=Azal<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Linoone<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=264<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=51<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Pickup<br />
|move1=Headbutt|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Surf|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Cut|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Dig|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Teddiursa<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=216<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Pickup<br />
|move1=Thrash|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Leer|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Fury Swipes|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Faint Attack|move4type=Dark}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Rider f.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Rider<br />
|name=Trona<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Delcatty<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=301<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Cute Charm<br />
|move1=DoubleSlap|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Shock Wave|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Rock Smash|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Frustration|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Jigglypuff<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=039<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=51<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Cute Charm<br />
|move1=DoubleSlap|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Rollout|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=Brick Break|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Pound|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Bodybuilder m 1.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Bodybuilder<br />
|name=Becher<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Doduo<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=084<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Run Away<br />
|move1=Rage|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Pursuit|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Fury Attack|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Steel Wing|move4type=Steel}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Loudred<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=294<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=51<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Soundproof<br />
|move1=Overheat|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Uproar|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Astonish|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Stomp|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Furret<br />
|ndex=162<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Keen Eye<br />
|move1=Facade|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Dig|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Quick Attack|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Assist|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser m.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Zime<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Vigoroth<br />
|ndex=288<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Vital Spirit<br />
|move1=Slash|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Protect|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Brick Break|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Reversal|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Combusken<br />
|ndex=256<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=55<br />
|type1=Fire|type2=Fighting<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Blaze<br />
|move1=Overheat|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Double Kick|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Rock Tomb|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Dig|move4type=Ground}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Koffing<br />
|ndex=109<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|gender=female<br />
|type1=Poison<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Explosion|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Sludge|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Psywave|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Shadow Ball|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Swellow<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=277<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=54<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Sky Attack|move1type=Flying<br />
|move2=Aerial Ace|move2type=Flying<br />
|move3=Endeavor|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
Defeating all of the Trainers earns the player {{PDollar}}6,308 and {{TM|01|Focus Punch}}.<br />
<br />
=====Round 2=====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Hunter f.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Muna<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Shroomish<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=285<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=51<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|ability=Effect Spore<br />
|move1=Growth|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Snatch|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Bullet Seed|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Frustration|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Oddish<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=043<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=51<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Poison<br />
|ability=Chlorophyll<br />
|move1=Acid|move1type=Poison<br />
|move2=Absorb|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Flail|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Frustration|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser m.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Kell<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Roselia<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=315<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Poison<br />
|ability=Poison Point<br />
|move1=Spikes|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Poison Sting|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Sludge Bomb|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Shadow Ball|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Lileep<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=345<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Grass<br />
|ability=Suction Cups<br />
|move1=AncientPower|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Constrict|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Stockpile|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Spit Up|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Spinda<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=327<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=51<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Own Tempo<br />
|move1=Thrash|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Dig|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Faint Attack|move3type=Dark}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Bodybuilder m 1.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Bodybuilder<br />
|name=Torf<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Cacnea<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=331<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|ability=Sand Veil<br />
|move1=DynamicPunch|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Faint Attack|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Needle Arm|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Cotton Spore|move4type=Grass}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Gloom<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=044<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Poison<br />
|ability=Chlorophyll<br />
|move1=Razor Leaf|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=Sludge Bomb|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Cut|move3type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Machop<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=066<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=DynamicPunch|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Karate Chop|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=SmellingSalt|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Low Kick|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Rider m.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Rider<br />
|name=Ligam<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Grovyle<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=253<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|ability=Overgrow<br />
|move1=Fury Cutter|move1type=Bug<br />
|move2=Pursuit|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=SolarBeam|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Slam|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Nuzleaf<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=274<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Dark<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Explosion|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Giga Drain|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Nature Power|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Razor Wind|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Lairon<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=305<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|type1=Steel|type2=Rock<br />
|ability=Rock Head<br />
|move1=Headbutt|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Metal Claw|move2type=Steel<br />
|move3=Body Slam|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
Defeating all of the Trainers earns the player {{PDollar}}7,208 and {{TM|07|Hail}}.<br />
<br />
=====Round 3=====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Rider m.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Rider<br />
|name=Vorem<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Baltoy<br />
|ndex=343<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=51<br />
|type1=Ground|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Selfdestruct|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Psybeam|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Rock Tomb|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Dig|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Hoothoot<br />
|ndex=163<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Insomnia<br />
|move1=Sky Attack|move1type=Flying<br />
|move2=Aerial Ace|move2type=Flying<br />
|move3=Shadow Ball|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Numel<br />
|ndex=322<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Oblivious<br />
|move1=Overheat|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Stomp|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Amnesia|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Focus Energy|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Bodybuilder f.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Bodybuilder<br />
|name=Seben<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Rhyhorn<br />
|ndex=111<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Ground|type2=Rock<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Rock Head<br />
|move1=Stomp|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Fury Attack|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Rock Slide|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Meditite<br />
|ndex=307<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|gender=male<br />
|type1=Fighting|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Pure Power<br />
|move1=DynamicPunch|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Bide|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Detect|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Strength|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Hunter f.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Athon<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Graveler<br />
|ndex=075<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|gender=female<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Ground<br />
|ability=Sturdy<br />
|move1=Explosion|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Rock Throw|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=Secret Power|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Rollout|move4type=Rock}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Pupitar<br />
|ndex=247<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=54<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Shed Skin<br />
|move1=Thrash|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Sandstorm|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Secret Power|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Roller Boy.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Roller Boy<br />
|name=Arez<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Gligar<br />
|ndex=207<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=55<br />
|type1=Ground|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Hyper Cutter<br />
|move1=Metal Claw|move1type=Steel<br />
|move2=Slash|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Faint Attack|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=Aerial Ace|move4type=Flying}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Pelipper<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=279<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Keen Eye<br />
|move1=Ice Beam|move1type=Ice<br />
|move2=Facade|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Wing Attack|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Surf|move4type=Water}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Shelgon<br />
|ndex=372<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=54<br />
|type1=Dragon<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Rock Head<br />
|move1=Twister|move1type=Dragon<br />
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=DragonBreath|move3type=Dragon<br />
|move4=Frustration|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Quagsire<br />
|ndex=195<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|gender=male<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Ground<br />
|ability=Water Absorb<br />
|move1=Slam|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Mud Shot|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Waterfall|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Sludge Bomb|move4type=Poison}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
Defeating all of the Trainers earns the player {{PDollar}}5,972 and {{TM|05|Roar}}.<br />
<br />
=====Round 4=====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Bodybuilder m 1.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Bodybuilder<br />
|name=Gano<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Minun<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=312<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=51<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Minus<br />
|move1=Spark|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Shock Wave|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Quick Attack|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Helping Hand|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Pikachu<br />
|ndex=025<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|gender=male<br />
|move1=Reversal|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Shock Wave|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Focus Punch|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Strength|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo St.Performer.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=St.Performer<br />
|name=Balton<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=2}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Wailmer<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=320<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=52<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|ability=Water Veil<br />
|move1=Thrash|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Rollout|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=Splash|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Whirlpool|move4type=Water}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Voltorb<br />
|ndex=100<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Soundproof<br />
|move1=Charge|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Spark|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Rollout|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Torment|move4type=Dark}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Hunter m.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Argel<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Larvitar<br />
|ndex=246<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Ground<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|gender=male<br />
|move1=Outrage|move1type=Dragon<br />
|move2=Rock Slide|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=Taunt|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=Rock Smash|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Magnemite<br />
|ndex=081<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=53<br />
|type1=Electric|type2=Steel<br />
|ability=Magnet Pull<br />
|move1=Lock-On|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Zap Cannon|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Secret Power|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Tackle|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Chinchou<br />
|ndex=170<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=54<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Electric<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Volt Absorb<br />
|move1=Waterfall|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Ice Beam|move2type=Ice<br />
|move3=Flail|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Frustration|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=Colo Rider f.png{{!}}75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Rider<br />
|name=Heral<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Electrode<br />
|ndex=101<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=54<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Soundproof<br />
|move1=Explosion|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Thunderbolt|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Screech|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Lunatone<br />
|ndex=337<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=54<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Explosion|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Psywave|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Rock Throw|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Machoke<br />
|ndex=067<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=54<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=DynamicPunch|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Vital Throw|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Foresight|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Ampharos<br />
|ndex=181<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=55<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=ThunderPunch|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Strength|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Odor Sleuth|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
Defeating all of the Trainers earns the player {{PDollar}}7,020 and {{TM|31|Brick Break}}.<br />
<br />
=====Subsequent Rounds=====<br />
After round 4 has been beaten, the cycle is restarted with round 1. The player will fight the same trainers and get the same cash reward, although no TM will be awarded for replaying a round.<br />
<br />
====Battle Mode====<br />
{{main|Battle Mode (Colosseum)}}<br />
<br />
=====Single Battle=====<br />
{{main|Pyrite Colosseum/Battle Mode Single}}<br />
<br />
=====Double Battle=====<br />
{{main|Pyrite Colosseum/Battle Mode Double}}<br />
<br />
===Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness===<br />
In {{Pokémon XD}}, if the [[Miror Radar]] goes off, [[Miror B.]] may appear here, replacing one of the regular Trainers and carrying a [[Shadow Pokémon]] the player previously failed to [[Snagging|snag]]. There is also a knockout challenge in Pyrite Colosseum.<br />
<br />
====Round 1====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser f1.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Resila<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Teddiursa<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=216<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Pickup<br />
|move1=Fake Tears|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Fury Swipes|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Lick|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Metal Claw|move4type=Steel}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Pichu<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=172<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Light Screen|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Shock Wave|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Present|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Thunder Wave|move4type=Electric}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b color}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Smoochum<br />
|ndex=238<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Ice|type2=Psychic<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Oblivious<br />
|move1=Powder Snow|move1type=Ice<br />
|move2=Pound|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Attract|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Sweet Kiss|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Pichu<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=172<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Charm|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Shock Wave|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Sweet Kiss|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Tail Whip|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Sailor.png{{!}}96px<br />
|class=Sailor<br />
|name=Monar<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Chikorita<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=152<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|ability=Overgrow<br />
|move1=PoisonPowder|move1type=Poison<br />
|move2=Razor Leaf|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Ingrain|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Attract|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Cyndaquil<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=155<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|ability=Blaze<br />
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=SmokeScreen|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Ember|move3type=Fire<br />
|move4=Leer|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Totodile<br />
|ndex=158<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Torrent<br />
|move1=Bite|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Mud Sport|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Water Pulse|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Leer|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser m.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Rafert<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Ralts<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=280<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Psychic<br />
|ability=Synchronize<br />
|move1=Will-O-Wisp|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Mean Look|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Attract|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Destiny Bond|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Duskull<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=355<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Ghost<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Confuse Ray|move1type=Ghost<br />
|move2=Pain Split|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Disable|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Astonish|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b color}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Poochyena<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=261<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Dark<br />
|ability=Run Away<br />
|move1=Yawn|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Poison Fang|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Sand-Attack|move3type=Ground<br />
|move4=Covet|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Taillow<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=276<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Double Team|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Wing Attack|move2type=Flying<br />
|move3=Attract|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Supersonic|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser f2.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Jupex<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Plusle<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=311<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Plus<br />
|move1=Shock Wave|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Helping Hand|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Thunder Wave|move4type=Electric}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Snubbull<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=209<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Water Pulse|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Counter|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=SmellingSalt|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Lick|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Minun<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=312<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Minus<br />
|move1=Spark|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Metronome|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Helping Hand|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Attract|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
Defeating all the Trainers will earn the player {{pdollar}}3,040 and {{TM|31|Brick Break}}.<br />
<br />
====Round 2====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Hunter.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Haxer<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Ledyba<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=165<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Swarm<br />
|move1=Light Screen|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Silver Wind|move2type=Bug<br />
|move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Swift|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Mareep<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=179<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Light Screen|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=ThunderShock|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Facade|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Wooper<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=194<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|type2=Ground<br />
|ability=Water Absorb<br />
|move1=AncientPower|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Mud-Slap|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Water Gun|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Safeguard|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser f1.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Mestil<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Cleffa<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=173<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|ability=Cute Charm<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|move1=Sweet Kiss|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Metronome|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Pound|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Charm|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Pichu<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=172<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Sweet Kiss|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=ThunderShock|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Thunder Wave|move3type=Electric<br />
|move4=Charm|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b color}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Smoochum<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=238<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Ice<br />
|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Oblivious<br />
|move1=Lick|move1type=Ghost<br />
|move2=Sweet Kiss|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Attract|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Ice Punch|move4type=Ice}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Togepi<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=175<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Serene Grace<br />
|move1=Sweet Kiss|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Metronome|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Peck|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Charm|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser m.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Novil<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Seedot<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=273<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|ability=Chlorophyll<br />
|move1=Sunny Day|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Synthesis|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Leech Seed|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Harden|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Castform<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=351<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Forecast<br />
|move1=Powder Snow|move1type=Ice<br />
|move2=Water Gun|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Ember|move3type=Fire<br />
|move4=Swift|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Lotad<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=270<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|type2=Grass<br />
|ability=Swift Swim<br />
|move1=Rain Dance|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Astonish|move2type=Ghost<br />
|move3=Razor Leaf|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Mist|move4type=Ice}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Researcher.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Researcher<br />
|classlink=Scientist (Trainer class)<br />
|name=Orill<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Makuhita<br />
|ndex=296<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|ability=Thick Fat|gender=male<br />
|move1=Fake Out|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Vital Throw|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Tackle|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Sand-Attack|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Magnemite<br />
|ndex=081<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|type2=Steel<br />
|ability=Sturdy<br />
|move1=SonicBoom|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Supersonic|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=ThunderShock|move3type=Electric<br />
|move4=Metal Sound|move4type=Steel}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Meditite<br />
|ndex=307<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Pure Power|gender=male<br />
|move1=Fake Out|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Meditate|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Confusion|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Bide|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
Defeating all the Trainers will earn the player {{pdollar}}3,040 and {{TM|12|Taunt}}.<br />
<br />
====Round 3====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Hunter.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Nostal<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Rhyhorn<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=111<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Ground|type2=Rock<br />
|ability=Lightningrod<br />
|move1=Thunder|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Blizzard|move2type=Ice<br />
|move3=Fire Blast|move3type=Fire<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Wingull<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=278<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Keen Eye<br />
|move1=Wing Attack|move1type=Flying<br />
|move2=Water Pulse|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Shock Wave|move3type=Electric<br />
|move4=Twister|move4type=Dragon}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Roselia<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=315<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Poison<br />
|ability=Natural Cure<br />
|move1=Mega Drain|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=Sweet Scent|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Stun Spore|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Growth|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser f1.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Ostix<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Smeargle<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=235<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Own Tempo<br />
|move1=Follow Me|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Thrash|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Flail|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Metronome|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Sentret<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=161<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Keen Eye<br />
|move1=Helping Hand|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Assist|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Thief|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Skitty<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=300<br />
|game=XD<br />
|held=Persim Berry<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Cute Charm<br />
|move1=Helping Hand|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Assist|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Covet|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Endure|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser m.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Tarbil<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Spinda<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=327<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Own Tempo<br />
|move1=Teeter Dance|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Psych Up|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Swagger|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Brick Break|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Trapinch<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=328<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Ground<br />
|ability=Arena Trap<br />
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Dig|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Swagger|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Bite|move4type=Dark}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Spoink<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=325<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Psychic<br />
|ability=Own Tempo<br />
|move1=Psych Up|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Psywave|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Bounce|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Swagger|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Sailor.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Sailor<br />
|name=Tebu<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Stantler<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=234<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Spite|move1type=Ghost<br />
|move2=Sand-Attack|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Astonish|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Roar|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Snubbull<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=209<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Bite|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Thief|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Attract|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Roar|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Hitmontop<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=237<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Rock Smash|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Mind Reader|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Rapid Spin|move3type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
Defeating all the Trainers will earn the player {{pdollar}}2,880 and {{TM|41|Torment}}.<br />
<br />
====Round 4====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Chaser f2.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Sellis<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Taillow<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=276<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Mud-Slap|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Rest|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Peck|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Snore|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Natu<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=177<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Psychic|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Synchronize<br />
|move1=Thunder Wave|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Future Sight|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Swift|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=FeatherDance|move4type=Flying}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b color}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Torchic<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=255<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|ability=Blaze<br />
|move1=Seismic Toss|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Fire Spin|move3type=Fire<br />
|move4=Sunny Day|move4type=Fire}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Swablu<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=333<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Natural Cure<br />
|move1=Fury Attack|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Sing|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Astonish|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Double Team|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD_Sailor.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Sailor<br />
|name=Mifis<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=3}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Jigglypuff<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=039<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Cute Charm<br />
|move1=Defense Curl|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Rollout|move2type=Rock}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Marill<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=183<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|ability=Huge Power<br />
|move1=Defense Curl|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Rollout|move2type=Rock}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Spheal<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=363<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Ice|type2=Water<br />
|ability=Thick Fat<br />
|move1=Defense Curl|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Rollout|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=Ice Ball|move3type=Ice}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Hunter.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Tiruk<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Gulpin<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=316<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Poison<br />
|ability=Liquid Ooze<br />
|move1=Bullet Seed|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=Poison Gas|move2type=Poison}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Doduo<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=084<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Fury Attack|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Supersonic|move2type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b color}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Aipom<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=190<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Run Away<br />
|move1=DoubleSlap|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Screech|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Fury Swipes|move3type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Corsola<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ndex=222<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Rock<br />
|ability=Hustle<br />
|move1=Icicle Spear|move1type=Ice<br />
|move2=Light Screen|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Spike Cannon|move3type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color=b36c4b<br />
|bordercolor=a44519<br />
|headcolor=c4947e<br />
|sprite=XD Researcher.png{{!}}96px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Researcher<br />
|classlink=Scientist (Trainer class)<br />
|name=Foss<br />
|game=XD<br />
|location=Pyrite Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=4}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Bagon<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=371<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Dragon<br />
|ability=Rock Head<br />
|move1=Rage|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Twister|move2type=Dragon<br />
|move3=Bite|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=Leer|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Larvitar<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=246<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Ground<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Sandstorm|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Curse|move3type=???<br />
|move4=Rock Smash|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color=b36c4b color}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Carvanha<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=318<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Dark<br />
|ability=Rough Skin<br />
|move1=Bite|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Focus Energy|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Scary Face|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Rage|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Snubbull<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ndex=209<br />
|game=XD<br />
|level=20<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Bite|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Lick|move2type=Ghost<br />
|move3=Scary Face|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Bulk Up|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
Defeating all the Trainers will earn the player {{PDollar}}2,880 and {{TM|05|Roar}}.<br />
<br />
==Trivia==<br />
* {{tc|Chaser}} Resila, the first Trainer of Pyrite Colosseum in [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]], uses two {{p|Pichu}}, a {{p|Teddiursa}}, and a {{p|Smoochum}}, all of which are members of the {{DL|Pichu Brothers|Pichu Posse}} in the {{pkmn|anime}}.<br />
<br />
==In other languages==<br />
{{langtable|color={{locationcolor/light|mountain}}|bordercolor={{locationcolor/dark|mountain}}<br />
|fr=Colosseum Pyrite<br />
|de=Colosseum Pyritus<br />
|it=Arena di Sulfuria<br />
|es=Coliseo de Pirita<br />
}}<br />
{{-}}<br />
{{Orre}}<br><br />
{{Project Locations notice}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Colosseum locations]]<br />
[[Category:XD locations]]<br />
<br />
[[de:Colosseum Pyritus]]<br />
[[es:Coliseo Pirita]]<br />
[[fr:Colosseum de Pyrite]]<br />
[[ja:パイラコロシアム]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_(TCG)&diff=3553358Pokémon (TCG)2022-08-08T05:15:54Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* Intro */ Corrected typo.</p>
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<div>[[File:GreninjaXY41.jpg|180px|right|thumb|Greninja, a Pokémon card that was released in the {{TCG|XY}} expansion]]<br />
A '''Pokémon''' in the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]] (abbreviated TCG) is any card on which there is a Pokémon that is represented as they are in the {{pkmn|games}}. Pokémon are used in the TCG to battle an opponent's Pokémon, much like Trainers battle in the games. Pokemon cards are one of categories of cards in the TCG, which also include {{TCG|Energy card}}s, and {{TCG|Trainer card}}s. Players can have up to four Pokémon with the same name in decklists.<br />
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Every Pokémon card has its name, {{TCG|Type}}, {{TCG|Hit Points}} and evolutionary stage listed on the card. Pokémon cards have at least one {{TCG|Attack}} and/or [[Poké-Power]]/{{TCG|Poké-Body}}/{{TCG|Ability}}. Most cards also contain a {{DL|Appendix:Glossary (TCG)|Weakness}}, {{DL|Appendix:Glossary (TCG)|Resistance}} and {{DL|Appendix:Glossary (TCG)|Retreat cost}}. Also printed on each card is its [[Rarity]], [[List of Pokémon Trading Card Game expansions|expansion or set]], set number and a [[Pokédex]] entry as flavor text. The Pokédex entries are usually copied from a [[core series]] game, although there are [[Double Crisis (TCG)|exceptions]].<br />
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Each legal deck must have at least one {{TCG|Basic Pokémon}} in their lists. At the start of the game, both players must put one face down Basic Pokémon (or a Pokémon that can be played during setup by an effect) from their hand in the field as an {{DL|Appendix:Glossary (TCG)|Active Pokémon}}, revealing the card after setup. If a player cannot play a Basic Pokémon during setup, they reshuffle all cards in their hand back into their deck, drawing seven more cards and repeating the process if still unable to place a Pokémon in the field. Besides the Active Pokémon, players can have up to five Pokémon in the {{DL|Appendix:Glossary (TCG)|Bench}}.<br />
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Only Basic Pokémon are placed directly in the field, during the player's turn. Pokémon can {{DL|Evolution|In the TCG|evolve}} outside the first turn or the turn that card was played, by playing other Pokémon that state to evolve from that card on top of it in that player's turn (evolved Pokémon count as only one Pokémon while in the field). Some card effects allow the player to evolve the Pokémon without the turn restrictions or even play evolution cards directly on the field. Trainers cards such as {{TCG|Mysterious Fossil}} can be played on the field and be treated as Basic Pokémon.<br />
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Pokémon are knocked out by the effect of an Attack/Ability or when its {{DL|Appendix:Glossary (TCG)|Damage|damage counters}} equal or surpass the amount of Hit Points it has; when this happens, the Pokémon and all cards attached to it are discarded, unless the effect of a card states otherwise.<br />
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==Evolutionary stages==<br />
*{{TCG|Baby Pokémon|Baby}}, a deprecated stage that could be played as Basic Pokémon and evolve into certain Basic Pokémon.<br />
*{{TCG|Basic Pokémon|Basic}}, which is a Pokémon that does not evolve from any other (excluding Baby Pokémon). Pokémon which do not evolve to or from another Pokémon, {{TCG|Pokémon SP}}, {{TCG|Pokémon EX}} and {{TCG|Pokémon V}} are also classified as Basic.<br />
**{{TCG|Restored Pokémon}}, which are Pokémon that can be only played by the effect of Trainer cards.<br />
*{{TCG|Stage 1 Pokémon|Stage 1}}, which is a Pokémon which has evolved from a Basic or Restored Pokémon.<br />
**{{TCG|M-Pokémon-EX}} and {{TCG|Pokémon VMAX}} evolve from Basic {{TCG|Pokémon EX}} and {{TCG|Pokémon V}}, respectively.<br />
*{{TCG|Stage 2 Pokémon|Stage 2}}, which is a Pokémon which has evolved from a Stage 1 or Restored Pokémon.<br />
*{{TCG|Pokémon LV.X}} and {{TCG|Pokémon BREAK}}, which evolve from its respective named Pokémon.<br />
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==Pokémon card variants==<br />
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===Shining Pokémon===<br />
{{main|Shining Pokémon (TCG)}}<br />
'''Shining Pokémon''' were [[Shiny Pokémon|shiny]] Basic Pokémon (regardless of their evolution stage) first introduced in the {{TCG|Neo Revelation}} expansion. Players could not have any duplicate copies of a Shining Pokémon card in their deck. {{TCG|Pokémon ☆}} were later released with the same mechanic, and further Shining Pokémon from {{TCG|Shining Legends}} no longer had the 1 per deck rule.<br />
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===Pokémon ex===<br />
{{main|Pokémon ex (TCG)}}<br />
'''Pokémon ex''' were a major mechanic during the {{DL|Pokémon Trading Card Game|EX Series}}. These Pokémon had extra {{DL|Appendix:Glossary (TCG)|Hit Points}} and stronger Poké-Powers/Poké-Bodies or {{DL|Appendix:Glossary (TCG)|Attack}}s with the drawback of an opponent taking 2 {{DL|Appendix:Glossary (TCG)|Prize Card}}s when that Pokémon ex was knocked out.<br />
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===Lv. X Pokémon===<br />
{{main|Pokémon LV.X (TCG)}}<br />
'''Lv. X Pokémon''' originate from the {{TCG|Diamond & Pearl}} sets and go a step further into evolution. The same rules apply when a regular Pokémon evolves into a Lv. X as they do in evolution, but they're allowed to use the attacks, Poké-Powers, and Poké-Bodies of their previous form.<br />
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===Pokémon SP===<br />
{{main|Pokémon SP (TCG)}}<br />
'''Pokémon SP''' and their variants are Basic Pokémon (regardless of their evolution stage) debuted in the {{TCG|Platinum}} expansion with 2x damage weaknesses as opposed to taking +20 damage like the other cards at their time.<br />
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===Pokémon LEGEND===<br />
{{main|Pokémon LEGEND (TCG)}}<br />
'''LEGEND cards''' first appeared in the {{TCG|HeartGold & SoulSilver}} [[List of Pokémon Trading Card Game expansions|expansion]] as one of the replacements for LV. X Pokémon. Pokémon LEGEND are one or two Pokémon consisting of two different cards: the top and bottom half, which have the same name and need to be played on the Bench at the same time (the two cards count as one while in play). When a LEGEND Pokémon is knocked out, the opponent takes 2 Prize cards.<br />
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===Pokémon-EX===<br />
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'''Pokémon-EX''' are {{DL|Appendix:Glossary (TCG)|Basic Pokémon}} with significantly higher {{DL|Appendix:Glossary (TCG)|Hit Points}} compared to the majority of regular Basic Pokémon. They were first introduced in the {{TCG|Next Destinies}} [[List of Pokémon Trading Card Game expansions|expansion]], replacing {{TCG|Pokémon LV.X}} {{TCG|Pokémon LEGEND|Legendary Pokémon}}. Similar to the {{TCG|Pokémon-ex}} released during the {{DL|Pokémon Trading Card Game|EX Series}}, when a Pokémon-EX is defeated, the opponent takes two {{DL|Appendix:Glossary (TCG)|Prize Card}}s instead of one.<br />
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Later in the {{TCG|XY}} [[List of Pokémon Trading Card Game expansions|expansion]] to implement the [[Mega Evolution]] mechanic, the '''M-Pokémon-EX''' were featured. M-Pokémon-EX can only be played by Mega Evolving from basic Pokémon-EX; doing so ends that player's {{DL|Appendix:Glossary (TCG)|turn}} unless he or she has the corresponding Spirit Link tool attached to the Pokémon. Other than this, M-Pokémon-EX share the same rules and design as regular Pokémon-EX and {{TCG|Evolution|evolving Pokémon}}, with the addition of more {{DL|Appendix:Glossary (TCG)|Hit Points}} and more powerful {{DL|Appendix:Glossary (TCG)|Attack}}s.<br />
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===Restored Pokémon===<br />
{{main|Restored Pokémon (TCG)}}<br />
A '''Restored Pokémon''' is a form of Pokémon that requires the player to first play the respective Fossil item card, search the bottom seven cards of their [[Deck]] for the corresponding Pokémon, and then place it onto his or her {{DL|Appendix:Glossary (TCG)|Bench}}. Restored Pokémon were present during Generations V and VI of the TCG, these pokémon later reverted to evolving from an [[Unidentified Fossil (Ultra Prism 134)|universal fossil item]].<br />
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===Pokémon BREAK===<br />
{{main|Pokémon BREAK (TCG)}}<br />
'''Pokémon BREAK''' are a special type of Pokémon card first introduced in the XY {{TCG|BREAKthrough}} expansion. A Pokémon BREAK card evolves from its non-BREAK version, and keeps weakness/resistance, attacks, and abilities from it's prior evolution. BREAK Pokémon adds new abilities or attacks. Pokémon BREAK cards are placed sideways on the top half of the Pokémon it evolves from.<br />
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===Pokémon-GX===<br />
{{main|Pokémon-GX (TCG)}}<br />
'''Pokémon-GX''' were first introduced in the {{TCG|Sun & Moon}} expansion. A Pokémon-GX was the same stage of its original card, meaning Zoroark-GX was a Stage 1 Pokémon, because Zoroark as a normal Pokémon is a Stage 1. Similar to Pokémon-EX, Pokémon-GX allowed the opponent to take 2 prize cards when it was Knocked Out. However, they introduced a new attack in Pokémon cards; GX attacks are powerful moves exclusive (at first) to Pokémon GX with the drawback of each player only being able to use one GX attack per game.<br />
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Later introduced in the Sun & Moon expansion {{TCG|Team Up}}, '''TAG TEAM Pokémon''' are Basic Pokémon-GX that features two or three Pokémon on a card instead of the normal one. Their GX attacks also have an extra effect when they have extra energy attached or specific Supporter cards are played on the same turn. When a TAG TEAM Pokémon is knocked out, the opponent takes 3 prize cards.<br />
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===Prism Star Pokémon===<br />
{{main|Prism Star (TCG)}}<br />
'''Prism Star Pokémon''' cards came with the expansion set {{TCG|Ultra Prism}} released during Generation VII. These cards only featured Basic Pokémon. Players cannot have any duplicate copies of a Prism Star card in their deck, and when these Pokémon were removed from play, they would be sent to the {{DL|Appendix:Glossary (TCG)|Lost Zone}} instead.<br />
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===Pokémon V===<br />
{{main|Pokémon V (TCG)}}<br />
Released with the {{TCG|Sword & Shield}} expansions, '''Pokémon V''' are Basic Pokémon with more HP and powerful attacks than regular counterparts like Pokémon-EX, giving the opponent 2 prize cards when knocked out as well. Some Pokémon V can evolve into '''Pokémon VMAX''' cards, an implementation of the [[Dynamax]]/[[Gigantamax]] mechanics from the Generation VIII games. When a Pokémon VMAX is knocked out, the opponent takes 3 prize cards instead.<br />
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===Minor Attributes===<br />
*{{TCG|Owner's Pokémon}}<br />
*{{TCG|Dark Pokémon}}<br />
*{{TCG|Light Pokémon}}<br />
*{{TCG|Crystal Pokémon}}<br />
*{{TCG|δ Delta Species}}<br />
*[[:Category:Pokémon cards with held items|Held items]]<br />
*{{TCG|Pokémon Prime}}<br />
*[[Team Plasma#In the TCG|Team Plasma]]<br />
*[[Ancient Trait]]s<br />
*{{TCG|Ultra Beast}}s<br />
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==In the video games==<br />
===Pokémon Trading Card Game series===<br />
{{main|Card (TCG GB)#Pokémon card}}<br />
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In {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}, there are 187 Pokémon cards. In [[Pokémon Card GB2: Here Comes Team GR!]], there are 381 Pokémon cards: the 187 from the previous game, plus 194 new ones. Each Pokémon card has multiple screens with various kinds of information.<br />
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! Main screen<br />
! Bubble attack<br />
! Pokédex screen<br />
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{{Project TCG notice}}<br />
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[[zh:宝可梦（TCG）]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Vibrava_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=3522950Vibrava (Pokémon)2022-05-19T03:45:45Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* Trivia */ Updated new trivia entry</p>
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{{PokémonPrevNext/GO|species=Vibrava}}<br />
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{{Pokémon Infobox<br />
|name=Vibrava<br />
|jname=ビブラーバ<br />
|jtranslit=Biburāba<br />
|tmname=Vibrava<br />
|ndex=329<br />
|typebox=1<br />
|type1=Ground<br />
|type2=Dragon<br />
|category=Vibration<br />
|height-ftin=3'07"<br />
|height-m=1.1<br />
|weight-lbs=33.7<br />
|weight-kg=15.3<br />
|abilityn=1<br />
|abilitylayout=1<br />
|ability1=Levitate<br />
|egggroupn=2<br />
|egggroup1=Bug<br />
|egggroup2=Dragon<br />
|egggroup2note=<sup>{{color2|000|Generation VIII|Gen VIII}}</sup><br />
|eggcycles=20<br />
|evtotal=2<br />
|evat=1<br />
|evsp=1<br />
|expyield=119<br />
|oldexp=126<br />
|lv100exp=1,059,860<br />
|gendercode=127<br />
|color=Green<br />
|catchrate=120<br />
|body=13<br />
|pokefordex=vibrava<br />
|generation=3<br />
|friendship=70<br />
}}<br />
'''Vibrava''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ビブラーバ''' ''Vibrava'') is a dual-type {{2t|Ground|Dragon}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} introduced in [[Generation III]].<br />
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It [[Evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Trapinch}} starting at [[level]] 35 and evolves into {{p|Flygon}} starting at level 45.<br />
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==Biology==<br />
Vibrava is a {{wp|dragonfly}}-like {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}. It has a small head with two yellow antennae and green bulging eyes with black oval-shaped pupils. Its mouth has two large white teeth protruding from each side. It has a skinny yellow body, four skinny black legs with slender feet, and four green, rhombus-shaped wings with black edges. There are similarly-colored rhombus shapes at the end of its tail. <br />
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Vibrava's wings are not fully developed, so it is unable to fly very far. However, it is able to create vibrations and ultrasonic waves with its wings. Humans get headaches from these waves. After causing the prey to faint, as a {{wp|Saprotrophic nutrition|saprotroph}}, it spits stomach acid to melt its prey before consumption. It continues this eating process every day to help its wings grow. Vibrava calls the {{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Rough-terrain Pokémon|desert}} home and is also known to preserve its captured prey in the desert's hot sands.<br />
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==In the anime==<br />
[[File:Goh Vibrava.png|thumb|left|250px|Vibrava in the {{pkmn|anime}}]]<br />
===Major appearances===<br />
Multiple Vibrava made their main series debut in ''[[AG106|Beg, Burrow and Steal]]''. Dozens of Trapinch were seen evolving into them at [[Trapinch underground labyrinth|an underground lake]]. {{TRT}} attempted to steal the Vibration Pokémon despite the fact the idea {{MTR}} had of using their previous forms as nutcrackers was now foiled.<br />
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In ''[[AG162|Spontaneous Combusken]]'', [[Brianna]] used a Vibrava during the [[Contest Battle|Battle Stage]] of the {{isl|Chrysanthemum}} {{pkmn|Contest}}.<br />
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In ''[[JN036|Making Battles in the Sand!]]'', [[Goh]] caught a {{DL|List of Goh's Pokémon|Vibrava}} when he investigated a sandstorm in [[Mauville City]]. It has since made further appearances in ''[[Pokémon Journeys: The Series]]''.<br />
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In ''[[JN090|Showdown at the Gates of Warp!]]'', due to {{OBP|Dialga|recurring}} and {{OBP|Palkia|recurring}}'s influence, [[Goh's Flygon]] [[devolution|devolved]] into a Vibrava and then into a Trapinch. It was later reverted in the same episode. The same also occurred with [[Alternate World Goh]]'s Flygon.<br />
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===Minor appearances===<br />
Multiple Vibrava debuted in ''[[M06|Jirachi: Wish Maker]]''.<br />
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In ''[[AG121|Hi Ho Silver Wind!]]'', a {{pkmn|Coordinator}}'s Vibrava competed in the [[Hoenn Grand Festival]].<br />
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A Coordinator's Vibrava appeared in ''[[AG160|Harley Rides Again]]''.<br />
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A Vibrava appeared in ''[[DP071|Pokémon Ranger and the Kidnapped Riolu! Part 1]]'' and ''[[DP072|Part 2]]''.<br />
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In ''[[XY077|A Relay in the Sky!]]'', a {{pkmn|Trainer}}'s Vibrava competed in the [[Pokémon Sky Relay]]. It was in a team also consisting of {{p|Ninjask}} and {{p|Shedinja}}.<br />
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In ''[[SM046|Deceiving Appearances!]]'', five Vibrava were at [[Aether Paradise]].<br />
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In ''[[SM090|Securing the Future!]]'', a Vibrava joined the rest of [[Alola]] in showering {{DL|Light trio (anime)|Necrozma}} with light so it could return to its {{DL|List of Pokémon with form differences|Necrozma|normal form}}.<br />
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A Vibrava appeared in ''[[M23|Secrets of the Jungle]]''.<br />
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===Pokédex entries===<br />
{{Animedexheader|Hoenn}}<br />
{{Animedexbody|AG106|Vibrava|Ash's Pokédex|Vibrava, the Vibration Pokémon. Vibrava is the evolved form of Trapinch. By flapping their wings, they create vibrations, emitting ultrasonic waves.}}<br />
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|Hoenn}}<br />
{{Animedexheader|Galar}}<br />
{{Animedexbody|JN036|Vibrava|Goh's Rotom Phone|Vibrava, the Vibration Pokémon. A {{t|Ground}} and {{t|Dragon}} type. Vibrava can create ultrasonic waves with its double set of wings. Those waves can cause headaches in humans.}}<br />
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|Galar}}<br />
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==In the manga==<br />
[[File:Hugh Vibrava Adventures.png|thumb|200px|Vibrava in [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]<br />
===Pokémon Adventures===<br />
{{tc|Aqua Admin}}s [[Shelly]] and [[Matt]] both own a Vibrava they use for aerial transport. Shelly's Vibrava debuted in ''[[PS213|Bubble Bubble Toil and Azumarill II]]'', while Matt's debuted in ''[[PS246|Can I Ninjask You a Question?]]''.<br />
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[[Hugh]] owns a Vibrava, which evolved from his Trapinch prior to ''[[PS530|Movie Panic]]''.<br />
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==In the TCG==<br />
{{main|Vibrava (TCG)}}<br />
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==Game data==<br />
===Pokédex entries===<br />
{{Dex/Header|type=Ground|type2=Dragon}}<br />
{{Dex/NA|gen=III}}<br />
{{Dex/Gen/2|gen=III|reg1=Hoenn|num1=117|reg2=Kanto}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Ruby|t=FFF|entry=To make prey faint, Vibrava generates ultrasonic waves by vigorously making its two wings vibrate. This Pokémon's ultrasonic waves are so powerful, they can bring on headaches in people.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Sapphire|t=FFF|entry=Vibrava's wings have not yet completed the process of growing. Rather than flying long distances, they are more useful for generating ultrasonic waves by vibrating.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Emerald|t=FFF|entry=It looses ultrasonic waves by rubbing its wings together. Since a Vibrava's wings are still in the process of growing, it can only fly short distances.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry2|v=FireRed|v2=LeafGreen|entry=It generates ultrasonic waves by violently flapping its wings. After making its prey faint, it melts the prey with acid.}}<br />
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{{Dex/Gen/2|gen=IV|reg1=Sinnoh|reg2=Johto}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry3|v=Diamond|v2=Pearl|v3=Platinum|entry=It violently shudders its wings, generating ultrasonic waves to induce headaches in people.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry2|v=HeartGold|v2=SoulSilver|entry=It vibrates its wings vigorously, creating ultrasonic waves that cause serious headaches.}}<br />
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{{Dex/Gen/1|gen=V|reg1=Unova|num1=122|label1={{gameabbrev5|B2W2}}:}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black|v2=White|t=FFF|entry=It violently shudders its wings, generating ultrasonic waves to induce headaches in people.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black 2|v2=White 2|t=FFF|entry=The ultrasonic waves it generates by rubbing its two wings together cause severe headaches.}}<br />
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{{Dex/Gen/2|gen=VI|reg1=Kalos|num1=004|label1=Mountain|reg2=Hoenn|num2=122}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=X|t=FFF|entry=The ultrasonic waves it generates by rubbing its two wings together cause severe headaches.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Y|entry=It generates ultrasonic waves by violently flapping its wings. After making its prey faint, it melts the prey with acid.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|t=FFF|v=Omega Ruby|entry=To make prey faint, Vibrava generates ultrasonic waves by vigorously making its two wings vibrate. This Pokémon's ultrasonic waves are so powerful, they can bring on headaches in people.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|t=FFF|v=Alpha Sapphire|entry=Vibrava's wings have not yet completed the process of growing. Rather than flying long distances, they are more useful for generating ultrasonic waves by vibrating.}}<br />
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{{Dex/Gen/3|gen=VII|reg1=Alola|num1=236|label1={{gameabbrev7|SM}}:|reg2=Alola|num2=305|label2={{gameabbrev7|USUM}}:|reg3=Kanto}}<br />
{{Dex/NE|[[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!|Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]]}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Sun|entry=Rather than using its underdeveloped wings for flight, it rubs them together, producing ultrasonic waves to attack its enemies.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Moon|entry=To help make its wings grow, it dissolves quantities of prey in its digestive juices and guzzles them down every day.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Ultra Sun|entry=It vibrates its wings to generate ultrasonic waves, causing its prey to faint. Then it buries the prey alive in the sand to preserve it.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Ultra Moon|entry=It vibrates its wings to send out odd sound waves. Trainers who are with it need earplugs.}}<br />
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|}<br />
{{Dex/Gen/3|gen=VIII|reg1=Galar|num1=322|reg2=Sinnoh|reg3=Hisui}}<br />
{{Dex/NE|[[Pokémon Legends: Arceus|Legends: Arceus]]}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Sword|entry=The ultrasonic waves it generates by rubbing its two wings together cause severe headaches.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Shield|entry=To help make its wings grow, it dissolves quantities of prey in its digestive juices and guzzles them down every day.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Brilliant Diamond|v2=Shining Pearl|entry=It violently shudders its wings, generating ultrasonic waves to induce headaches in people.}}<br />
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===Held items===<br />
{{HeldItems<br />
|type=Ground|type2=Dragon<br />
|colo1=Dragon Fang|colo1type=None|colo1rar=100<br />
}}<br />
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===Stats===<br />
====Base stats====<br />
{{BaseStats<br />
|type=Ground<br />
|type2=Dragon<br />
|HP= 50<br />
|Attack= 70<br />
|Defense=50<br />
|SpAtk= 50<br />
|SpDef= 50<br />
|Speed= 70}}<br />
<br />
====Pokéathlon stats====<br />
{{Pokéthlon<br />
|type=Ground<br />
|type2=Dragon<br />
|Speed=3<br />
|SpeedMax=4<br />
|Power=2<br />
|PowerMax=3<br />
|Technique=4<br />
|TechniqueMax=5<br />
|Stamina=2<br />
|StaminaMax=3<br />
|Jump=3<br />
|JumpMax=4<br />
}}<br />
<br />
===Type effectiveness===<br />
{{TypeEffectiveness<br />
|type1=Ground<br />
|type2=Dragon<br />
|Normal= 100<br />
|Fighting=100<br />
|Flying= 100<br />
|Poison= 50<br />
|Ground= 0<br />
|Rock= 50<br />
|Bug= 100<br />
|Ghost= 100<br />
|Steel= 100<br />
|Fire= 50<br />
|Water= 100<br />
|Grass= 100<br />
|Electric= 0<br />
|Psychic= 100<br />
|Ice= 400<br />
|Dragon= 200<br />
|Dark= 100<br />
|Fairy= 200<br />
|notes=yes<br />
|levitate=yes<br />
|newground=1<br />
|ground=yes<br />
|newelectric=½}}<br />
<br />
===Learnset===<br />
Vibrava is available in {{pkmn|Sword and Shield}} and {{pkmn|Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl}}.<br />
<br />
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br />
{{learnlist/levelh/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|1|Dragon Breath|Dragon|Special|60|100|20||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|1|Laser Focus|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|1|Bulldoze|Ground|Physical|60|100|20||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|1|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|1|Crunch|Dark|Physical|80|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|1|Superpower|Fighting|Physical|120|100|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|1|Fissure|Ground|Physical|—|30|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|1|Sand Attack|Ground|Status|—|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|1|Astonish|Ghost|Physical|30|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|1|Supersonic|Normal|Status|—|55|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|1|Bite|Dark|Physical|60|100|25}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|{{tt|Evo.|Learned upon evolving}}|Dragon Breath|Dragon|Special|60|100|20||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|12|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|16|Sand Tomb|Ground|Physical|35|85|15||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|20|Dragon Tail|Dragon|Physical|60|90|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|24|Screech|Normal|Status|—|85|40}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|28|Bug Buzz|Bug|Special|90|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|32|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|38|Earth Power|Ground|Special|90|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|44|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|50|Uproar|Normal|Special|90|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|56|Dragon Rush|Dragon|Physical|100|75|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|62|Boomburst|Normal|Special|140|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/levelf/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
<br />
====By [[TM]]/[[TR]]====<br />
{{gameabbrev8|SwSh}}<br />
{{learnlist/tmh/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM06|Fly|Flying|Physical|90|95|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM08|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM11|Solar Beam|Grass|Special|120|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM15|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM16|Screech|Normal|Status|—|85|40}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM21|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM22|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM24|Snore|Normal|Special|50|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM25|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM28|Giga Drain|Grass|Special|75|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM30|Steel Wing|Steel|Physical|70|90|25}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM31|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM32|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM34|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM39|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM40|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM48|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|60|95|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM49|Sand Tomb|Ground|Physical|35|85|15||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM53|Mud Shot|Ground|Special|55|95|15||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM56|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM76|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM81|Bulldoze|Ground|Physical|60|100|20||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM95|Air Slash|Flying|Special|75|95|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR01|Body Slam|Normal|Physical|85|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR10|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR13|Focus Energy|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR20|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR24|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|120|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR26|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR27|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR32|Crunch|Dark|Physical|80|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR35|Uproar|Normal|Special|90|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR36|Heat Wave|Fire|Special|95|90|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR39|Superpower|Fighting|Physical|120|100|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR61|Bug Buzz|Bug|Special|90|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR62|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|85|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR67|Earth Power|Ground|Special|90|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR95|Throat Chop|Dark|Physical|80|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tmf/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
<br />
{{gameabbrev8|BDSP}}<br />
{{learnlist/tmh/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|5||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM19|Giga Drain|Grass|Special|75|100|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM22|Solar Beam|Grass|Special|120|100|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM26|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM28|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM37|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM39|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|60|95|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|&mdash;|100|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM47|Steel Wing|Steel|Physical|70|90|25||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM51|Roost|Flying|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM58|Endure|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM59|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|85|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM62|Bug Buzz|Bug|Special|90|100|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM80|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM82|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM83|Bulldoze|Ground|Physical|60|100|20||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|&mdash;|85|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM89|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM94|Fly|Flying|Physical|90|95|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM96|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM97|Defog|Flying|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM98|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tmf/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
<br />
====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br />
{{gameabbrev8|SwSh}}<br />
{{learnlist/breedh/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|010|Caterpie}}{{MSP|012|Butterfree}}{{MSP|127|Pinsir}}{{MSP|213|Shuckle}}{{MSP|291|Ninjask}}{{MSP|415|Combee}}<br>{{MSP|451|Skorupi}}{{MSP|452|Drapion}}{{MSP|543|Venipede}}{{MSP|544|Whirlipede}}{{MSP|545|Scolipede}}{{MSP|557|Dwebble}}<br>{{MSP|558|Crustle}}{{MSP|595|Joltik}}{{MSP|596|Galvantula}}{{MSP|632|Durant}}{{MSP|636|Larvesta}}{{MSP|637|Volcarona}}<br>{{MSP|736|Grubbin}}{{MSP|737|Charjabug}}{{MSP|738|Vikavolt}}{{MSP|751|Dewpider}}{{MSP|752|Araquanid}}{{MSP|768|Golisopod}}<br>{{MSP|850|Sizzlipede}}{{MSP|851|Centiskorch}}|Bug Bite|Bug|Physical|60|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|330|Flygon}}{{MSP|706|Goodra}}|Feint|Normal|Physical|30|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|768|Golisopod}}|First Impression|Bug|Physical|90|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|129|Magikarp}}{{MSP|130|Gyarados}}{{MSP|349|Feebas}}{{MSP|350|Milotic}}{{MSP|557|Dwebble}}{{MSP|558|Crustle}}<br>{{MSP|588|Karrablast}}{{MSP|589|Escavalier}}{{MSP|704|Goomy}}{{MSP|705|Sliggoo}}{{MSP|706|Goodra}}{{MSP|776|Turtonator}}|Flail|Normal|Physical|—|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|123|Scyther}}{{MSP|212|Scizor}}{{MSP|253|Grovyle}}{{MSP|254|Sceptile}}{{MSP|291|Ninjask}}{{MSP|557|Dwebble}}<br>{{MSP|558|Crustle}}{{MSP|588|Karrablast}}{{MSP|589|Escavalier}}{{MSP|595|Joltik}}{{MSP|596|Galvantula}}{{MSP|632|Durant}}<br>{{MSP|768|Golisopod}}|Fury Cutter|Bug|Physical|40|95|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|012|Butterfree}}{{MSP|415|Combee}}{{MSP|637|Volcarona}}{{MSP|714|Noibat}}{{MSP|715|Noivern}}|Gust|Flying|Special|40|100|35}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|123|Scyther}}{{MSP|212|Scizor}}{{MSP|252|Treecko}}{{MSP|253|Grovyle}}{{MSP|254|Sceptile}}{{MSP|617|Accelgor}}<br>{{MSP|694|Helioptile}}{{MSP|695|Heliolisk}}{{MSP|885|Dreepy}}{{MSP|886|Drakloak}}{{MSP|887|Dragapult}}|Quick Attack|Normal|Physical|40|100|30}}<br />
{{learnlist/breedf/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
<br />
{{gameabbrev8|BDSP}}<br />
{{learnlist/breedh/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP/BDSP|010|Caterpie}}{{MSP/BDSP|012|Butterfree}}{{MSP/BDSP|013|Weedle}}{{MSP/BDSP|015|Beedrill}}{{MSP/BDSP|127|Pinsir}}{{MSP/BDSP|168|Ariados}}<br>{{MSP/BDSP|204|Pineco}}{{MSP/BDSP|205|Forretress}}{{MSP/BDSP|213|Shuckle}}{{MSP/BDSP|265|Wurmple}}{{MSP/BDSP|267|Beautifly}}{{MSP/BDSP|269|Dustox}}<br>{{MSP/BDSP|291|Ninjask}}{{MSP/BDSP|401|Kricketot}}{{MSP/BDSP|402|Kricketune}}{{MSP/BDSP|412|Burmy}}{{MSP/BDSP|414|Mothim}}{{MSP/BDSP|415|Combee}}<br>{{MSP/BDSP|451|Skorupi}}{{MSP/BDSP|452|Drapion}}{{MSP/BDSP|469|Yanmega}}|Bug Bite|Bug|Physical|60|100|20||}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP/BDSP|328|Trapinch}}{{MSP/BDSP|329|Vibrava}}{{MSP/BDSP|330|Flygon}}|Earth Power|Ground|Special|90|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP/BDSP|330|Flygon}}{{MSP/BDSP|469|Yanmega}}|Feint|Normal|Physical|30|100|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP/BDSP|129|Magikarp}}{{MSP/BDSP|130|Gyarados}}|Flail|Normal|Physical|&mdash;|100|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP/BDSP|015|Beedrill}}{{MSP/BDSP|123|Scyther}}{{MSP/BDSP|212|Scizor}}{{MSP/BDSP|116|Horsea}}{{MSP/BDSP|117|Seadra}}{{MSP/BDSP|230|Kingdra}}<br>{{MSP/BDSP|127|Pinsir}}{{MSP/BDSP|168|Ariados}}{{MSP/BDSP|371|Bagon}}{{MSP/BDSP|372|Shelgon}}{{MSP/BDSP|373|Salamence}}{{MSP/BDSP|402|Kricketune}}|Focus Energy|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|30||}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP/BDSP|123|Scyther}}{{MSP/BDSP|212|Scizor}}{{MSP/BDSP|207|Gligar}}{{MSP/BDSP|472|Gliscor}}{{MSP/BDSP|291|Ninjask}}{{MSP/BDSP|402|Kricketune}}|Fury Cutter|Bug|Physical|40|95|20||}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP/BDSP|012|Butterfree}}{{MSP/BDSP|049|Venomoth}}{{MSP/BDSP|193|Yanma}}{{MSP/BDSP|469|Yanmega}}{{MSP/BDSP|267|Beautifly}}{{MSP/BDSP|269|Dustox}}<br>{{MSP/BDSP|284|Masquerain}}{{MSP/BDSP|414|Mothim}}{{MSP/BDSP|415|Combee}}|Gust|Flying|Special|40|100|35||}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP/BDSP|283|Surskit}}{{MSP/BDSP|284|Masquerain}}|Mud Shot|Ground|Special|55|95|15|*|'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP/BDSP|123|Scyther}}{{MSP/BDSP|212|Scizor}}{{MSP/BDSP|193|Yanma}}{{MSP/BDSP|469|Yanmega}}{{MSP/BDSP|207|Gligar}}{{MSP/BDSP|472|Gliscor}}<br>{{MSP/BDSP|252|Treecko}}{{MSP/BDSP|253|Grovyle}}{{MSP/BDSP|254|Sceptile}}{{MSP/BDSP|283|Surskit}}{{MSP/BDSP|284|Masquerain}}{{MSP/BDSP|313|Volbeat}}|Quick Attack|Normal|Physical|40|100|30||}}<br />
{{learnlist/breedf/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
<br />
====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====<br />
{{learnlist/tutorh/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor8|Draco Meteor|Dragon|Special|130|90|5||'''|yes|no|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor8|Dual Wingbeat|Flying|Physical|40|90|10|||no|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor8|Scorching Sands|Ground|Special|70|100|10||'''|no|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutorf/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
<br />
====By a prior [[evolution]]====<br />
{{learnlist/prevoh/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevo8null}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevof/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
<br />
====By [[transfer]] from another generation====<br />
{{learnlist/prevgenh/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Air Cutter|Flying|Special|60|95|25|IV=yes<!--tutor-->}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Bide|Normal|Physical|—|—|10|V=yes<!--level-->|VI=yes<!--level-->|VII=yes<!--level-->|x=yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Captivate|Normal|Status|—|100|20|IV=yes<!--TM-->|x=yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Confide|Normal|Status|—|—|20|VI=yes<!--TM-->|VII=yes<!--TM-->}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Defog|Flying|Status|—|—|15|IV=yes<!--TM-->|VII=yes<!--tutor-->}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|III=yes<!--TM-->|IV=yes<!--TM-->|V=yes<!--TM-->|VI=yes<!--TM-->|VII=yes<!--TM-->}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Double-Edge|Normal|Physical|120|100|15|III=yes<!--tutor-->}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Feint Attack|Dark|Physical|60|—|20|III=yes<!--level,level-->|IV=yes<!--level,level-->|V=yes<!--level,level-->|VI=yes<!--level,level-->|VII=yes<!--level-->|x=yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|III=yes<!--TM-->|IV=yes<!--TM-->|V=yes<!--TM-->|VI=yes<!--TM-->|VII=yes<!--TM-->|x=yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Headbutt|Normal|Physical|70|100|15|IV=yes<!--tutor-->}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|60|100|15|III=yes<!--TM-->|IV=yes<!--TM-->|V=yes<!--TM-->|VI=yes<!--TM-->|VII=yes<!--TM-->|x=yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Mimic|Normal|Status|—|—|10|III=yes<!--tutor-->}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|IV=yes<!--TM-->|x=yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|60|100|5|IV=yes<!--tutor-->|x=yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|III=yes<!--TM-->|IV=yes<!--TM-->|V=yes<!--TM-->|VI=yes<!--TM-->|VII=yes<!--TM-->|x=yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|V=yes<!--TM-->|VI=yes<!--TM,TM-->}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Roost|Flying|Status|—|—|10|IV=yes<!--TM-->|V=yes<!--tutor-->|VI=yes<!--TM-->|VII=yes<!--TM-->}}<br />
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===Side game data===<br />
{{Spindata/Head|type=Ground|type2=Dragon}}<br />
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|rate=-19<br />
|area=Furnace Desert<br />
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|P2=I only have half my health left...<br />
|P3=I've had it... I can't even vibrate my wings...<br />
|PL=I've leveled up! My ultrasonic waves are in prime form!<br />
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|hp=48<br />
|attack=71<br />
|defense=48<br />
|speed=60<br />
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{{Spindata/Shuffle|col=3|type=Ground|ndex=329|num=526<br />
|min=50<br />
|max=100<br />
|raisemaxlevel=5<br />
|skill=Hitting Streak<br />
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{{Spindata/GO|col=6|type=Ground|ndex=329<br />
|hatch=N/A<br />
|buddy=5<br />
|candy=Trapinch<br />
|evocandy=100<br />
|stamina=137<br />
|attack=134<br />
|defense=99<br />
|fast={{m|Mud Shot}}, {{m|Dragon Breath}}<br />
|special={{m|Sand Tomb}}, {{m|Bulldoze}}, {{m|Bug Buzz}}, {{m|Frustration}}{{tt|‡|As Shadow Pokémon}}, {{m|Return}}{{tt|‡|As Purified Pokémon}}<br />
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In {{g|GO}}, Vibrava could be obtained by completing the [[Special Research]], ''Distracted by Something Shiny''.<br />
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===Evolution===<br />
{{Evobox-3<br />
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|type2=Dragon<br />
|pictype=art<br />
|no1=328<br />
|name1=Trapinch<br />
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|no2=329<br />
|name2=Vibrava<br />
|type1-2=Ground<br />
|type2-2=Dragon<br />
|evo2={{bag|Rare Candy}}<br>{{color2|000|Level|Level 45}}<br />
|no3=330<br />
|name3=Flygon<br />
|type1-3=Ground<br />
|type2-3=Dragon}}<br />
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===Sprites===<br />
{{Spritebox/Header|type=Ground|type2=Dragon}}<br />
{{Spritebox/NA|gen=III}}<br />
{{Spritebox/3|ndex=329}}<br />
{{Spritebox/4|ndex=329}}<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
* Vibrava shares its {{pkmn|category}} with {{p|Palpitoad}} and {{p|Seismitoad}}. They are all known as the Vibration Pokémon.<br />
* Vibrava and its evolved form are the only {{type|Dragon}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} belonging in the {{egg3|Bug}}.<br />
** As of [[Generation VIII]], Vibrava and its evolutionary relatives are the only Pokémon that are in the {{egg|Bug}} and {{egg|Dragon}} [[Egg Group]]s.<br />
* Vibrava's base Attack stat is lower than that of its {{p|Trapinch|pre-evolution}}, but it returns to the original stat when it evolves into {{p|Flygon}}.<br />
* Vibrava is the only Pokémon to gain the {{type|Dragon}} upon evolution and still be able to evolve.<br />
* In {{g|Colosseum}}, Vibrava is the only Dragon-type Pokémon that can be snagged, although {{p|Altaria}} is available upon snagging and evolving {{p|Swablu}}.<br />
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===Origin===<br />
{{Bulbanews|On the Origin of Species: Trapinch, Vibrava and Flygon}}<br />
Vibrava represents the adult stage of an {{wp|antlion}}, though it seems to draw more visual inspiration from {{wp|mayfly|mayflies}}, possibly nodding to the Japanese word for an adult antlion, ''usuba-kagerou'', or "thin-winged mayfly". Combined with an antlion's resemblance to a {{wp|dragonfly}}, Vibrava's typing suggests that it may also draw inspiration from {{wp|Progomphus|sanddragons}}. Its tendency to create harsh noises with its wings is similar to that of a {{wp|cicada}}.<br />
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====Name origin====<br />
Vibrava may be a combination of ''vibrate'' (to shake rapidly) and ''{{wp|larva}}''. It may also derive from ''{{wp|European dragon#Dragons in Catalan mythology|Vibra}}''.<br />
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==In other languages==<br />
{{Other languages|type=Ground|type2=Dragon<br />
|ja=ビブラーバ ''Vibrava''|jameaning=From ''vibrate'', ''larva'', and ''Vibra''<br />
|fr=Vibraninf|frmeaning=From ''vibration'' and ''{{wp|Nymph (biology)|nymphe}}''<br />
|es=Vibrava|esmeaning=Same as English name<br />
|de=Vibrava|demeaning=Same as English name<br />
|it=Vibrava|itmeaning=Same as English name<br />
|ko=비브라바 ''Vibrava''|komeaning=Transcription of the Japanese name<br />
|zh_cmn=超音波幼蟲 / 超音波幼虫 ''Chāoyīnbōyòuchóng''|zh_cmnmeaning=From {{tt|超音波 ''chāoyīnbō''|ultrasound}} and {{tt|幼蟲 / 幼虫 ''yòuchóng''|larva}}<br />
|zh_yue=超音波幼蟲 ''Chīuyāmbōyauchùhng''|zh_yuemeaning=From {{tt|超音波 ''chīuyāmbō''|ultrasound}} and {{tt|幼蟲 ''yauchùhng''|larva}}<br />
|hi=भिब्राभा ''Vibrava''|himeaning=Transcription of English name<br />
|th=วิบราวา ''Wibrawa''|thmeaning=Transcription of Japanese name<br />
}}<br />
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==External links==<br />
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[[Category:Shadow Pokémon in Pokémon Colosseum]]<br />
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[[zh:超音波幼虫]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Vibrava_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=3522949Vibrava (Pokémon)2022-05-19T03:34:20Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* Trivia */</p>
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{{Pokémon Infobox<br />
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|jtranslit=Biburāba<br />
|tmname=Vibrava<br />
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|height-ftin=3'07"<br />
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|weight-lbs=33.7<br />
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|ability1=Levitate<br />
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|egggroup2note=<sup>{{color2|000|Generation VIII|Gen VIII}}</sup><br />
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'''Vibrava''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ビブラーバ''' ''Vibrava'') is a dual-type {{2t|Ground|Dragon}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} introduced in [[Generation III]].<br />
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It [[Evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Trapinch}} starting at [[level]] 35 and evolves into {{p|Flygon}} starting at level 45.<br />
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==Biology==<br />
Vibrava is a {{wp|dragonfly}}-like {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}. It has a small head with two yellow antennae and green bulging eyes with black oval-shaped pupils. Its mouth has two large white teeth protruding from each side. It has a skinny yellow body, four skinny black legs with slender feet, and four green, rhombus-shaped wings with black edges. There are similarly-colored rhombus shapes at the end of its tail. <br />
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Vibrava's wings are not fully developed, so it is unable to fly very far. However, it is able to create vibrations and ultrasonic waves with its wings. Humans get headaches from these waves. After causing the prey to faint, as a {{wp|Saprotrophic nutrition|saprotroph}}, it spits stomach acid to melt its prey before consumption. It continues this eating process every day to help its wings grow. Vibrava calls the {{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Rough-terrain Pokémon|desert}} home and is also known to preserve its captured prey in the desert's hot sands.<br />
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==In the anime==<br />
[[File:Goh Vibrava.png|thumb|left|250px|Vibrava in the {{pkmn|anime}}]]<br />
===Major appearances===<br />
Multiple Vibrava made their main series debut in ''[[AG106|Beg, Burrow and Steal]]''. Dozens of Trapinch were seen evolving into them at [[Trapinch underground labyrinth|an underground lake]]. {{TRT}} attempted to steal the Vibration Pokémon despite the fact the idea {{MTR}} had of using their previous forms as nutcrackers was now foiled.<br />
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In ''[[AG162|Spontaneous Combusken]]'', [[Brianna]] used a Vibrava during the [[Contest Battle|Battle Stage]] of the {{isl|Chrysanthemum}} {{pkmn|Contest}}.<br />
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In ''[[JN036|Making Battles in the Sand!]]'', [[Goh]] caught a {{DL|List of Goh's Pokémon|Vibrava}} when he investigated a sandstorm in [[Mauville City]]. It has since made further appearances in ''[[Pokémon Journeys: The Series]]''.<br />
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In ''[[JN090|Showdown at the Gates of Warp!]]'', due to {{OBP|Dialga|recurring}} and {{OBP|Palkia|recurring}}'s influence, [[Goh's Flygon]] [[devolution|devolved]] into a Vibrava and then into a Trapinch. It was later reverted in the same episode. The same also occurred with [[Alternate World Goh]]'s Flygon.<br />
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===Minor appearances===<br />
Multiple Vibrava debuted in ''[[M06|Jirachi: Wish Maker]]''.<br />
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In ''[[AG121|Hi Ho Silver Wind!]]'', a {{pkmn|Coordinator}}'s Vibrava competed in the [[Hoenn Grand Festival]].<br />
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A Coordinator's Vibrava appeared in ''[[AG160|Harley Rides Again]]''.<br />
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A Vibrava appeared in ''[[DP071|Pokémon Ranger and the Kidnapped Riolu! Part 1]]'' and ''[[DP072|Part 2]]''.<br />
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In ''[[XY077|A Relay in the Sky!]]'', a {{pkmn|Trainer}}'s Vibrava competed in the [[Pokémon Sky Relay]]. It was in a team also consisting of {{p|Ninjask}} and {{p|Shedinja}}.<br />
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In ''[[SM046|Deceiving Appearances!]]'', five Vibrava were at [[Aether Paradise]].<br />
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In ''[[SM090|Securing the Future!]]'', a Vibrava joined the rest of [[Alola]] in showering {{DL|Light trio (anime)|Necrozma}} with light so it could return to its {{DL|List of Pokémon with form differences|Necrozma|normal form}}.<br />
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A Vibrava appeared in ''[[M23|Secrets of the Jungle]]''.<br />
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===Pokédex entries===<br />
{{Animedexheader|Hoenn}}<br />
{{Animedexbody|AG106|Vibrava|Ash's Pokédex|Vibrava, the Vibration Pokémon. Vibrava is the evolved form of Trapinch. By flapping their wings, they create vibrations, emitting ultrasonic waves.}}<br />
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|Hoenn}}<br />
{{Animedexheader|Galar}}<br />
{{Animedexbody|JN036|Vibrava|Goh's Rotom Phone|Vibrava, the Vibration Pokémon. A {{t|Ground}} and {{t|Dragon}} type. Vibrava can create ultrasonic waves with its double set of wings. Those waves can cause headaches in humans.}}<br />
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|Galar}}<br />
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==In the manga==<br />
[[File:Hugh Vibrava Adventures.png|thumb|200px|Vibrava in [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]<br />
===Pokémon Adventures===<br />
{{tc|Aqua Admin}}s [[Shelly]] and [[Matt]] both own a Vibrava they use for aerial transport. Shelly's Vibrava debuted in ''[[PS213|Bubble Bubble Toil and Azumarill II]]'', while Matt's debuted in ''[[PS246|Can I Ninjask You a Question?]]''.<br />
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[[Hugh]] owns a Vibrava, which evolved from his Trapinch prior to ''[[PS530|Movie Panic]]''.<br />
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==In the TCG==<br />
{{main|Vibrava (TCG)}}<br />
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==Game data==<br />
===Pokédex entries===<br />
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{{Dex/Entry1|v=Sapphire|t=FFF|entry=Vibrava's wings have not yet completed the process of growing. Rather than flying long distances, they are more useful for generating ultrasonic waves by vibrating.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Emerald|t=FFF|entry=It looses ultrasonic waves by rubbing its wings together. Since a Vibrava's wings are still in the process of growing, it can only fly short distances.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry2|v=FireRed|v2=LeafGreen|entry=It generates ultrasonic waves by violently flapping its wings. After making its prey faint, it melts the prey with acid.}}<br />
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{{Dex/Gen/2|gen=IV|reg1=Sinnoh|reg2=Johto}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry3|v=Diamond|v2=Pearl|v3=Platinum|entry=It violently shudders its wings, generating ultrasonic waves to induce headaches in people.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry2|v=HeartGold|v2=SoulSilver|entry=It vibrates its wings vigorously, creating ultrasonic waves that cause serious headaches.}}<br />
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{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black|v2=White|t=FFF|entry=It violently shudders its wings, generating ultrasonic waves to induce headaches in people.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black 2|v2=White 2|t=FFF|entry=The ultrasonic waves it generates by rubbing its two wings together cause severe headaches.}}<br />
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{{Dex/Gen/2|gen=VI|reg1=Kalos|num1=004|label1=Mountain|reg2=Hoenn|num2=122}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=X|t=FFF|entry=The ultrasonic waves it generates by rubbing its two wings together cause severe headaches.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Y|entry=It generates ultrasonic waves by violently flapping its wings. After making its prey faint, it melts the prey with acid.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|t=FFF|v=Omega Ruby|entry=To make prey faint, Vibrava generates ultrasonic waves by vigorously making its two wings vibrate. This Pokémon's ultrasonic waves are so powerful, they can bring on headaches in people.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|t=FFF|v=Alpha Sapphire|entry=Vibrava's wings have not yet completed the process of growing. Rather than flying long distances, they are more useful for generating ultrasonic waves by vibrating.}}<br />
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{{Dex/Gen/3|gen=VII|reg1=Alola|num1=236|label1={{gameabbrev7|SM}}:|reg2=Alola|num2=305|label2={{gameabbrev7|USUM}}:|reg3=Kanto}}<br />
{{Dex/NE|[[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!|Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]]}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Sun|entry=Rather than using its underdeveloped wings for flight, it rubs them together, producing ultrasonic waves to attack its enemies.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Moon|entry=To help make its wings grow, it dissolves quantities of prey in its digestive juices and guzzles them down every day.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Ultra Sun|entry=It vibrates its wings to generate ultrasonic waves, causing its prey to faint. Then it buries the prey alive in the sand to preserve it.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Ultra Moon|entry=It vibrates its wings to send out odd sound waves. Trainers who are with it need earplugs.}}<br />
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|}<br />
{{Dex/Gen/3|gen=VIII|reg1=Galar|num1=322|reg2=Sinnoh|reg3=Hisui}}<br />
{{Dex/NE|[[Pokémon Legends: Arceus|Legends: Arceus]]}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Sword|entry=The ultrasonic waves it generates by rubbing its two wings together cause severe headaches.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Shield|entry=To help make its wings grow, it dissolves quantities of prey in its digestive juices and guzzles them down every day.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Brilliant Diamond|v2=Shining Pearl|entry=It violently shudders its wings, generating ultrasonic waves to induce headaches in people.}}<br />
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===Held items===<br />
{{HeldItems<br />
|type=Ground|type2=Dragon<br />
|colo1=Dragon Fang|colo1type=None|colo1rar=100<br />
}}<br />
<br />
===Stats===<br />
====Base stats====<br />
{{BaseStats<br />
|type=Ground<br />
|type2=Dragon<br />
|HP= 50<br />
|Attack= 70<br />
|Defense=50<br />
|SpAtk= 50<br />
|SpDef= 50<br />
|Speed= 70}}<br />
<br />
====Pokéathlon stats====<br />
{{Pokéthlon<br />
|type=Ground<br />
|type2=Dragon<br />
|Speed=3<br />
|SpeedMax=4<br />
|Power=2<br />
|PowerMax=3<br />
|Technique=4<br />
|TechniqueMax=5<br />
|Stamina=2<br />
|StaminaMax=3<br />
|Jump=3<br />
|JumpMax=4<br />
}}<br />
<br />
===Type effectiveness===<br />
{{TypeEffectiveness<br />
|type1=Ground<br />
|type2=Dragon<br />
|Normal= 100<br />
|Fighting=100<br />
|Flying= 100<br />
|Poison= 50<br />
|Ground= 0<br />
|Rock= 50<br />
|Bug= 100<br />
|Ghost= 100<br />
|Steel= 100<br />
|Fire= 50<br />
|Water= 100<br />
|Grass= 100<br />
|Electric= 0<br />
|Psychic= 100<br />
|Ice= 400<br />
|Dragon= 200<br />
|Dark= 100<br />
|Fairy= 200<br />
|notes=yes<br />
|levitate=yes<br />
|newground=1<br />
|ground=yes<br />
|newelectric=½}}<br />
<br />
===Learnset===<br />
Vibrava is available in {{pkmn|Sword and Shield}} and {{pkmn|Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl}}.<br />
<br />
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br />
{{learnlist/levelh/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|1|Dragon Breath|Dragon|Special|60|100|20||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|1|Laser Focus|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|1|Bulldoze|Ground|Physical|60|100|20||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|1|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|1|Crunch|Dark|Physical|80|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|1|Superpower|Fighting|Physical|120|100|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|1|Fissure|Ground|Physical|—|30|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|1|Sand Attack|Ground|Status|—|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|1|Astonish|Ghost|Physical|30|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|1|Supersonic|Normal|Status|—|55|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|1|Bite|Dark|Physical|60|100|25}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|{{tt|Evo.|Learned upon evolving}}|Dragon Breath|Dragon|Special|60|100|20||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|12|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|16|Sand Tomb|Ground|Physical|35|85|15||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|20|Dragon Tail|Dragon|Physical|60|90|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|24|Screech|Normal|Status|—|85|40}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|28|Bug Buzz|Bug|Special|90|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|32|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|38|Earth Power|Ground|Special|90|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|44|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|50|Uproar|Normal|Special|90|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|56|Dragon Rush|Dragon|Physical|100|75|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|62|Boomburst|Normal|Special|140|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/levelf/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
<br />
====By [[TM]]/[[TR]]====<br />
{{gameabbrev8|SwSh}}<br />
{{learnlist/tmh/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM06|Fly|Flying|Physical|90|95|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM08|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM11|Solar Beam|Grass|Special|120|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM15|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM16|Screech|Normal|Status|—|85|40}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM21|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM22|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM24|Snore|Normal|Special|50|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM25|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM28|Giga Drain|Grass|Special|75|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM30|Steel Wing|Steel|Physical|70|90|25}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM31|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM32|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM34|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM39|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM40|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM48|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|60|95|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM49|Sand Tomb|Ground|Physical|35|85|15||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM53|Mud Shot|Ground|Special|55|95|15||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM56|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM76|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM81|Bulldoze|Ground|Physical|60|100|20||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM95|Air Slash|Flying|Special|75|95|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR01|Body Slam|Normal|Physical|85|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR10|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR13|Focus Energy|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR20|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR24|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|120|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR26|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR27|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR32|Crunch|Dark|Physical|80|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR35|Uproar|Normal|Special|90|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR36|Heat Wave|Fire|Special|95|90|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR39|Superpower|Fighting|Physical|120|100|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR61|Bug Buzz|Bug|Special|90|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR62|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|85|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR67|Earth Power|Ground|Special|90|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tr|TR95|Throat Chop|Dark|Physical|80|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tmf/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
<br />
{{gameabbrev8|BDSP}}<br />
{{learnlist/tmh/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|5||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM19|Giga Drain|Grass|Special|75|100|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM22|Solar Beam|Grass|Special|120|100|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM26|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM28|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM37|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM39|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|60|95|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|&mdash;|100|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM47|Steel Wing|Steel|Physical|70|90|25||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM51|Roost|Flying|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM58|Endure|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM59|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|85|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM62|Bug Buzz|Bug|Special|90|100|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM80|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM82|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM83|Bulldoze|Ground|Physical|60|100|20||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|&mdash;|85|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM89|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM94|Fly|Flying|Physical|90|95|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM96|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM97|Defog|Flying|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM98|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tmf/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
<br />
====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br />
{{gameabbrev8|SwSh}}<br />
{{learnlist/breedh/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|010|Caterpie}}{{MSP|012|Butterfree}}{{MSP|127|Pinsir}}{{MSP|213|Shuckle}}{{MSP|291|Ninjask}}{{MSP|415|Combee}}<br>{{MSP|451|Skorupi}}{{MSP|452|Drapion}}{{MSP|543|Venipede}}{{MSP|544|Whirlipede}}{{MSP|545|Scolipede}}{{MSP|557|Dwebble}}<br>{{MSP|558|Crustle}}{{MSP|595|Joltik}}{{MSP|596|Galvantula}}{{MSP|632|Durant}}{{MSP|636|Larvesta}}{{MSP|637|Volcarona}}<br>{{MSP|736|Grubbin}}{{MSP|737|Charjabug}}{{MSP|738|Vikavolt}}{{MSP|751|Dewpider}}{{MSP|752|Araquanid}}{{MSP|768|Golisopod}}<br>{{MSP|850|Sizzlipede}}{{MSP|851|Centiskorch}}|Bug Bite|Bug|Physical|60|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|330|Flygon}}{{MSP|706|Goodra}}|Feint|Normal|Physical|30|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|768|Golisopod}}|First Impression|Bug|Physical|90|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|129|Magikarp}}{{MSP|130|Gyarados}}{{MSP|349|Feebas}}{{MSP|350|Milotic}}{{MSP|557|Dwebble}}{{MSP|558|Crustle}}<br>{{MSP|588|Karrablast}}{{MSP|589|Escavalier}}{{MSP|704|Goomy}}{{MSP|705|Sliggoo}}{{MSP|706|Goodra}}{{MSP|776|Turtonator}}|Flail|Normal|Physical|—|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|123|Scyther}}{{MSP|212|Scizor}}{{MSP|253|Grovyle}}{{MSP|254|Sceptile}}{{MSP|291|Ninjask}}{{MSP|557|Dwebble}}<br>{{MSP|558|Crustle}}{{MSP|588|Karrablast}}{{MSP|589|Escavalier}}{{MSP|595|Joltik}}{{MSP|596|Galvantula}}{{MSP|632|Durant}}<br>{{MSP|768|Golisopod}}|Fury Cutter|Bug|Physical|40|95|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|012|Butterfree}}{{MSP|415|Combee}}{{MSP|637|Volcarona}}{{MSP|714|Noibat}}{{MSP|715|Noivern}}|Gust|Flying|Special|40|100|35}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP|123|Scyther}}{{MSP|212|Scizor}}{{MSP|252|Treecko}}{{MSP|253|Grovyle}}{{MSP|254|Sceptile}}{{MSP|617|Accelgor}}<br>{{MSP|694|Helioptile}}{{MSP|695|Heliolisk}}{{MSP|885|Dreepy}}{{MSP|886|Drakloak}}{{MSP|887|Dragapult}}|Quick Attack|Normal|Physical|40|100|30}}<br />
{{learnlist/breedf/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
<br />
{{gameabbrev8|BDSP}}<br />
{{learnlist/breedh/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP/BDSP|010|Caterpie}}{{MSP/BDSP|012|Butterfree}}{{MSP/BDSP|013|Weedle}}{{MSP/BDSP|015|Beedrill}}{{MSP/BDSP|127|Pinsir}}{{MSP/BDSP|168|Ariados}}<br>{{MSP/BDSP|204|Pineco}}{{MSP/BDSP|205|Forretress}}{{MSP/BDSP|213|Shuckle}}{{MSP/BDSP|265|Wurmple}}{{MSP/BDSP|267|Beautifly}}{{MSP/BDSP|269|Dustox}}<br>{{MSP/BDSP|291|Ninjask}}{{MSP/BDSP|401|Kricketot}}{{MSP/BDSP|402|Kricketune}}{{MSP/BDSP|412|Burmy}}{{MSP/BDSP|414|Mothim}}{{MSP/BDSP|415|Combee}}<br>{{MSP/BDSP|451|Skorupi}}{{MSP/BDSP|452|Drapion}}{{MSP/BDSP|469|Yanmega}}|Bug Bite|Bug|Physical|60|100|20||}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP/BDSP|328|Trapinch}}{{MSP/BDSP|329|Vibrava}}{{MSP/BDSP|330|Flygon}}|Earth Power|Ground|Special|90|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP/BDSP|330|Flygon}}{{MSP/BDSP|469|Yanmega}}|Feint|Normal|Physical|30|100|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP/BDSP|129|Magikarp}}{{MSP/BDSP|130|Gyarados}}|Flail|Normal|Physical|&mdash;|100|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP/BDSP|015|Beedrill}}{{MSP/BDSP|123|Scyther}}{{MSP/BDSP|212|Scizor}}{{MSP/BDSP|116|Horsea}}{{MSP/BDSP|117|Seadra}}{{MSP/BDSP|230|Kingdra}}<br>{{MSP/BDSP|127|Pinsir}}{{MSP/BDSP|168|Ariados}}{{MSP/BDSP|371|Bagon}}{{MSP/BDSP|372|Shelgon}}{{MSP/BDSP|373|Salamence}}{{MSP/BDSP|402|Kricketune}}|Focus Energy|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|30||}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP/BDSP|123|Scyther}}{{MSP/BDSP|212|Scizor}}{{MSP/BDSP|207|Gligar}}{{MSP/BDSP|472|Gliscor}}{{MSP/BDSP|291|Ninjask}}{{MSP/BDSP|402|Kricketune}}|Fury Cutter|Bug|Physical|40|95|20||}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP/BDSP|012|Butterfree}}{{MSP/BDSP|049|Venomoth}}{{MSP/BDSP|193|Yanma}}{{MSP/BDSP|469|Yanmega}}{{MSP/BDSP|267|Beautifly}}{{MSP/BDSP|269|Dustox}}<br>{{MSP/BDSP|284|Masquerain}}{{MSP/BDSP|414|Mothim}}{{MSP/BDSP|415|Combee}}|Gust|Flying|Special|40|100|35||}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP/BDSP|283|Surskit}}{{MSP/BDSP|284|Masquerain}}|Mud Shot|Ground|Special|55|95|15|*|'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP/BDSP|123|Scyther}}{{MSP/BDSP|212|Scizor}}{{MSP/BDSP|193|Yanma}}{{MSP/BDSP|469|Yanmega}}{{MSP/BDSP|207|Gligar}}{{MSP/BDSP|472|Gliscor}}<br>{{MSP/BDSP|252|Treecko}}{{MSP/BDSP|253|Grovyle}}{{MSP/BDSP|254|Sceptile}}{{MSP/BDSP|283|Surskit}}{{MSP/BDSP|284|Masquerain}}{{MSP/BDSP|313|Volbeat}}|Quick Attack|Normal|Physical|40|100|30||}}<br />
{{learnlist/breedf/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
<br />
====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====<br />
{{learnlist/tutorh/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor8|Draco Meteor|Dragon|Special|130|90|5||'''|yes|no|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor8|Dual Wingbeat|Flying|Physical|40|90|10|||no|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor8|Scorching Sands|Ground|Special|70|100|10||'''|no|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutorf/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
<br />
====By a prior [[evolution]]====<br />
{{learnlist/prevoh/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevo8null}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevof/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
<br />
====By [[transfer]] from another generation====<br />
{{learnlist/prevgenh/8|Vibrava|Ground|Dragon|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Air Cutter|Flying|Special|60|95|25|IV=yes<!--tutor-->}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Bide|Normal|Physical|—|—|10|V=yes<!--level-->|VI=yes<!--level-->|VII=yes<!--level-->|x=yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Captivate|Normal|Status|—|100|20|IV=yes<!--TM-->|x=yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Confide|Normal|Status|—|—|20|VI=yes<!--TM-->|VII=yes<!--TM-->}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Defog|Flying|Status|—|—|15|IV=yes<!--TM-->|VII=yes<!--tutor-->}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|III=yes<!--TM-->|IV=yes<!--TM-->|V=yes<!--TM-->|VI=yes<!--TM-->|VII=yes<!--TM-->}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Double-Edge|Normal|Physical|120|100|15|III=yes<!--tutor-->}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Feint Attack|Dark|Physical|60|—|20|III=yes<!--level,level-->|IV=yes<!--level,level-->|V=yes<!--level,level-->|VI=yes<!--level,level-->|VII=yes<!--level-->|x=yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|III=yes<!--TM-->|IV=yes<!--TM-->|V=yes<!--TM-->|VI=yes<!--TM-->|VII=yes<!--TM-->|x=yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Headbutt|Normal|Physical|70|100|15|IV=yes<!--tutor-->}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|60|100|15|III=yes<!--TM-->|IV=yes<!--TM-->|V=yes<!--TM-->|VI=yes<!--TM-->|VII=yes<!--TM-->|x=yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Mimic|Normal|Status|—|—|10|III=yes<!--tutor-->}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|IV=yes<!--TM-->|x=yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|60|100|5|IV=yes<!--tutor-->|x=yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|III=yes<!--TM-->|IV=yes<!--TM-->|V=yes<!--TM-->|VI=yes<!--TM-->|VII=yes<!--TM-->|x=yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|V=yes<!--TM-->|VI=yes<!--TM,TM-->}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Roost|Flying|Status|—|—|10|IV=yes<!--TM-->|V=yes<!--tutor-->|VI=yes<!--TM-->|VII=yes<!--TM-->}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|III=yes<!--TM-->|IV=yes<!--TM-->|VI=yes<!--TM-->|x=yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Signal Beam|Bug|Special|75|100|15|V=yes<!--breed,tutor-->|VI=yes<!--breed,tutor-->|VII=yes<!--breed,tutor-->|x=yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Silver Wind|Bug|Special|60|100|5|IV=yes<!--TM-->|x=yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Sonic Boom|Normal|Special|—|90|20|IV=yes<!--level-->|V=yes<!--level-->|VI=yes<!--level-->|VII=yes<!--level-->|x=yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/prevgen8|Vibrava|3|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15|V=yes<!--TM-->|VI=yes<!--TM-->}}<br />
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===Side game data===<br />
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|rate=-19<br />
|area=Furnace Desert<br />
|P1=My ultrasonic waves are beyond your range of hearing. OK?<br />
|P2=I only have half my health left...<br />
|P3=I've had it... I can't even vibrate my wings...<br />
|PL=I've leveled up! My ultrasonic waves are in prime form!<br />
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|speed=3<br />
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|defense=48<br />
|speed=60<br />
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{{Spindata/Shuffle|col=3|type=Ground|ndex=329|num=526<br />
|min=50<br />
|max=100<br />
|raisemaxlevel=5<br />
|skill=Hitting Streak<br />
|skilldesc=Increases damage when it is triggered in a row.<br />
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{{Spindata/GO|col=6|type=Ground|ndex=329<br />
|hatch=N/A<br />
|buddy=5<br />
|candy=Trapinch<br />
|evocandy=100<br />
|stamina=137<br />
|attack=134<br />
|defense=99<br />
|fast={{m|Mud Shot}}, {{m|Dragon Breath}}<br />
|special={{m|Sand Tomb}}, {{m|Bulldoze}}, {{m|Bug Buzz}}, {{m|Frustration}}{{tt|‡|As Shadow Pokémon}}, {{m|Return}}{{tt|‡|As Purified Pokémon}}<br />
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In {{g|GO}}, Vibrava could be obtained by completing the [[Special Research]], ''Distracted by Something Shiny''.<br />
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===Evolution===<br />
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|evo2={{bag|Rare Candy}}<br>{{color2|000|Level|Level 45}}<br />
|no3=330<br />
|name3=Flygon<br />
|type1-3=Ground<br />
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===Sprites===<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
* Vibrava shares its {{pkmn|category}} with {{p|Palpitoad}} and {{p|Seismitoad}}. They are all known as the Vibration Pokémon.<br />
* Vibrava and its evolved form are the only {{type|Dragon}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} belonging in the {{egg3|Bug}}.<br />
** As of [[Generation VIII]], Vibrava and its evolutionary relatives are the only Pokémon that are in the {{egg|Bug}} and {{egg|Dragon}} [[Egg Group]]s.<br />
* Vibrava's base Attack stat is lower than that of its {{p|Trapinch|pre-evolution}}, but it returns to the original stat when it evolves into {{p|Flygon}}.<br />
* Vibrava is the only Pokémon to gain the {{type|Dragon}} upon evolution and still be able to evolve.<br />
* In {{g|Colosseum}}, Vibrava is the only Dragon-type Pokémon that can be snagged.<br />
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===Origin===<br />
{{Bulbanews|On the Origin of Species: Trapinch, Vibrava and Flygon}}<br />
Vibrava represents the adult stage of an {{wp|antlion}}, though it seems to draw more visual inspiration from {{wp|mayfly|mayflies}}, possibly nodding to the Japanese word for an adult antlion, ''usuba-kagerou'', or "thin-winged mayfly". Combined with an antlion's resemblance to a {{wp|dragonfly}}, Vibrava's typing suggests that it may also draw inspiration from {{wp|Progomphus|sanddragons}}. Its tendency to create harsh noises with its wings is similar to that of a {{wp|cicada}}.<br />
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====Name origin====<br />
Vibrava may be a combination of ''vibrate'' (to shake rapidly) and ''{{wp|larva}}''. It may also derive from ''{{wp|European dragon#Dragons in Catalan mythology|Vibra}}''.<br />
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==In other languages==<br />
{{Other languages|type=Ground|type2=Dragon<br />
|ja=ビブラーバ ''Vibrava''|jameaning=From ''vibrate'', ''larva'', and ''Vibra''<br />
|fr=Vibraninf|frmeaning=From ''vibration'' and ''{{wp|Nymph (biology)|nymphe}}''<br />
|es=Vibrava|esmeaning=Same as English name<br />
|de=Vibrava|demeaning=Same as English name<br />
|it=Vibrava|itmeaning=Same as English name<br />
|ko=비브라바 ''Vibrava''|komeaning=Transcription of the Japanese name<br />
|zh_cmn=超音波幼蟲 / 超音波幼虫 ''Chāoyīnbōyòuchóng''|zh_cmnmeaning=From {{tt|超音波 ''chāoyīnbō''|ultrasound}} and {{tt|幼蟲 / 幼虫 ''yòuchóng''|larva}}<br />
|zh_yue=超音波幼蟲 ''Chīuyāmbōyauchùhng''|zh_yuemeaning=From {{tt|超音波 ''chīuyāmbō''|ultrasound}} and {{tt|幼蟲 ''yauchùhng''|larva}}<br />
|hi=भिब्राभा ''Vibrava''|himeaning=Transcription of English name<br />
|th=วิบราวา ''Wibrawa''|thmeaning=Transcription of Japanese name<br />
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{{Pokémon Infobox<br />
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|jname=ムウマ<br />
|jtranslit=Mūma<br />
|tmname=Muma<br />
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'''Misdreavus''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ムウマ''' ''Muma'') is a {{type|Ghost}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} introduced in [[Generation II]].<br />
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It [[Evolution|evolve]]s into {{p|Mismagius}} when exposed to a [[Dusk Stone]].<br />
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==Biology==<br />
Misdreavus is a dark bluish-green, ghost-like {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}. While it has no visible arms or legs, its lower half has several small appendages and resembles a ruffled dress. It has several round red gems around its neck, which are used to absorb fear and use it as nourishment. When defeated, its body disappears, leaving only the gems around its neck behind. This implies that Misdreavus retreats into the gems when it has been severely weakened. It has long, flowing lilac-tipped "hair". Misdreavus's large, red eyes have yellow sclerae.<br />
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Misdreavus lives in {{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|caves}}. As a [[nocturnal]] Pokémon, it spends its days sleeping in darkness and its nights startling people with mischievous tricks. Since it loves watching frightened people, it is known to yank and bite at people's hair or sneak up on them and cry and shriek. Previously, it was the [[Signature move|only known Pokémon]] that could learn {{m|Pain Split}} by leveling up. In the {{pkmn|anime}}, Misdreavus is shown to be able to use its "hair" to grasp objects and other Pokémon, as it were a pair of hands.<br />
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==In the anime==<br />
===Main series===<br />
[[File:Goh Misdreavus.png|thumb|250px|Misdreavus in the {{pkmn|anime}}]]<br />
====Major appearances====<br />
=====[[Little Miss]]=====<br />
Little Miss is a Misdreavus that first appeared under the ownership of {{jo|Marina}} during ''[[The Legend of Thunder!]]'', thus also marking the species' debut.<br />
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=====Other=====<br />
Misdreavus made its main series debut in ''[[EP259|Entei at Your Own Risk]]'', under the ownership of [[Nelson]]. He used it to battle and attempt to {{pkmn2|caught|catch}} an {{p|Entei}}, only for Entei to use {{m|Roar}}, allowing it to get away.<br />
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In ''[[EP272|Johto Photo Finish]]'', four {{pkmn2|wild}} Misdreavus caused an interruption at the [[Silver Conference]] Hotel. It was eventually discovered that one of them was trapped under a fallen tree, so {{Ash}} and {{ashfr}} freed it.<br />
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In ''[[AG128|Shocks and Bonds]]'', {{ho|Katie}} used a Misdreavus to battle Ash during the [[Ever Grande Conference]]. Although {{AP|Glalie}} defeated it, its using {{m|Destiny Bond}} caused Glalie to faint along with it.<br />
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In [[PK15]], a Misdreavus was living in the spooky house.<br />
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In ''[[DP011|Mounting a Coordinator Assault!]]'', [[Zoey]] used a Misdreavus to compete in the {{ci|Jubilife}} {{pkmn|Contest}}. Misdreavus later evolved into a {{p|Mismagius}} prior to ''[[DP176|Coming Full-Festival Circle!]]''.<br />
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In ''[[DP148|Try for the Family Stone!]]'', [[Rhyanna]] owns a Misdreavus. She would often use it in battles that always ended in her victory.<br />
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In ''[[SM094|A Haunted House for Everyone!]]'', a Misdreavus played with [[Harper and Sarah]] at the [[Pokémon School]]. It was also featured in the dream a Mismagius created.<br />
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In ''[[JN009|Finding a Legend!]]'', [[Goh]] caught a {{DL|List of Goh's Pokémon|Misdreavus}} that was casting illusions at the [[Bell Tower]]. It has since made further appearances in ''[[Pokémon Journeys: The Series]]''.<br />
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====Minor appearances====<br />
A Misdreavus appeared in ''[[AG077|A Fan with a Plan]]''.<br />
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In ''[[M08|Lucario and the Mystery of Mew]]'', a {{pkmn|Trainer}}'s Misdreavus competed in the [[Rota]] tournament.<br />
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A Misdreavus appeared in ''[[DP004|Dawn Of A New Era!]]''.<br />
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In ''[[DP090|Ghoul Daze!]]'', a Misdreavus scared Ash and [[Angie]] off with {{m|Screech}}.<br />
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In a flashback in ''[[DP093|Playing The Leveling Field!]]'', [[Fantina]] was revealed to have a Misdreavus that is now her {{p|Mismagius}} in the present day.<br />
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In a flashback in ''[[M13|Zoroark: Master of Illusions]]'', [[Grings Kodai]] was revealed to have a Misdreavus that is now his Mismagius in the present day.<br />
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In ''[[BW135|Mystery on a Deserted Island!]]'', {{an|Cilan}}'s demonstration featured a Misdreavus evolving into a Mismagius.<br />
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In ''[[SM008|Lillie's Egg-xhilarating Challenge!]]'', a Misdreavus played in {{an|Lillie}}'s garden.<br />
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In ''[[SM090|Securing the Future!]]'', two Trainers' Misdreavus joined the rest of [[Alola]] in showering {{DL|Light trio (anime)|Necrozma}} with light so it could return to its {{DL|List of Pokémon with form differences|Necrozma|true form}}.<br />
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In ''[[SM131|The Battlefield of Truth and Love!]]'', a Misdreavus watched {{an|Bewear}} and {{an|Stufful}} put on a performance in their hot springs.<br />
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A Misdreavus appeared in a flashback in ''[[JN032|Time After Time!]]''.<br />
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A Trainer's Misdreavus appeared in ''[[JN049|To Train, or Not to Train!]]''.<br />
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A Trainer's Misdreavus appeared in ''[[JN070|Take My Thief! Please!]]''.<br />
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A Misdreavus appeared in ''[[JN079|Night and Day, You are the Ones!]]''.<br />
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====Pokédex entries====<br />
{{Animedexheader|Johto}}<br />
{{Animedexbody|EP259|Misdreavus|Ash's Pokédex|Misdreavus, the Screech Pokémon. Misdreavus are extremely mischievous and like to cry out at night just to startle people.}}<br />
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|Johto}}<br />
{{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}<br />
{{Animedexbody|DP011|Misdreavus|Dawn's Pokédex|Misdreavus, the Screech Pokémon. Misdreavus loves being mischievous by pulling people's hair and shocking them.}}<br />
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{{Animedexheader|Galar}}<br />
{{Animedexbody|JN009|Misdreavus|Goh's Rotom Phone|Misdreavus, the Screech Pokémon. A {{t|Ghost}} type. Misdreavus scares people and gathers up their emotions, which it uses as energy.}}<br />
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|Galar}}<br />
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===Pokémon Evolutions===<br />
In ''[[PE07|The Show]]'', a Misdreavus briefly appeared under the ownership of a {{pkmn|Trainer}} in [[Ecruteak City]].<br />
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==In the manga==<br />
[[File:Morty Misdreavus Adventures.png|180px|thumb|Misdreavus in [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]<br />
===Pokémon Adventures===<br />
In ''[[PS125|Misdreavus Misgivings]]'', [[Morty]]'s Misdreavus is one of his strongest battlers, being able to both exploit its own abilities and those of its opponents using non-damaging attacks like {{m|Spite}}. Having used it in the Gym Leaders' Tournament match (which ended in a draw due to it using {{m|Destiny Bond}}), he still keeps it in his team to this day.<br />
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A Misdreavus appeared in ''[[PS415|Double Trouble with Dialga and Palkia V]]''.<br />
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A Misdreavus appeared in ''[[PS418|Deprogramming Porygon-Z]]'', under the ownership of a {{tc|PI}}.<br />
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A {{pkmn|Trainer}}'s Misdreavus appeared in ''[[PS423|Tackling Togekiss]]''.<br />
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===Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure!===<br />
[[Hareta]] {{pkmn2|caught}} a Misdreavus in ''[[DPA04|Win with Teamwork!!]]''.<br />
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===Pokémon + Nobunaga's Ambition ~ Ranse's Color Picture Scroll ~===<br />
A Misdreavus appeared in ''[[PNA4|The Scarlet Scroll: Kunoichi's Situation]]'', under the ownership of [[Nō]].<br />
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==In the TCG==<br />
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==Game data==<br />
===Pokédex entries===<br />
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{{Dex/Gen/1|gen=II|reg1=Johto|num1=214}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Gold|entry=It likes playing mischievous tricks such as screaming and wailing to startle people at night.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Silver|entry=It loves to bite and yank people's hair from behind without warning, just to see their shocked reactions.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Crystal|entry=It loves to watch people it's scared. It frightens them by screaming loudly or appearing suddenly.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Stadium 2|t=FFF|color=000|entry=It likes playing mischievous tricks such as screaming and wailing to startle people at night.}}<br />
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{{Dex/Entry2|v=Ruby|v2=Sapphire|t=FFF|t2=FFF|entry=Misdreavus frightens people with a creepy, sobbing cry. The Pokémon apparently uses its red spheres to absorb the fearful feelings of foes and turn them into nutrition.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Emerald|t=FFF|entry=A Misdreavus frightens people with a creepy, sobbing cry. It apparently uses its red spheres to absorb the fear of foes as its nutrition.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=FireRed|entry=It loves to bite and yank people's hair from behind without warning, just to see their shocked reactions.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=LeafGreen|entry=It likes playing mischievous tricks such as screaming and wailing to startle people at night.}}<br />
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{{Dex/Gen/2|gen=IV|reg1=Sinnoh|num1=072|reg2=Johto|num2=219}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Diamond|entry=It loves to sneak up on people late at night, then startle them with its shrieklike cry.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Pearl|entry=It gets nourishment from fear that it absorbs into its red orbs. In daytime, it sleeps in darkness.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Platinum|entry=A Pokémon that startles people in the middle of the night. It gathers fear as its energy.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=HeartGold|entry=It likes playing mischievous tricks such as screaming and wailing to startle people at night.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=SoulSilver|entry=It loves to bite and yank people's hair from behind without warning, just to see their shocked reactions.}}<br />
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{{Dex/Entry1|v=X|t=FFF|entry=It gets nourishment from fear that it absorbs into its red orbs. In daytime, it sleeps in darkness.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Y|entry=It likes playing mischievous tricks, such as screaming and wailing to startle people at night.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Omega Ruby|v2=Alpha Sapphire|t=fff|t2=fff|entry=Misdreavus frightens people with a creepy, sobbing cry. The Pokémon apparently uses its red spheres to absorb the fearful feelings of foes and turn them into nutrition.}}<br />
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{{Dex/Gen/3|gen=VII|reg1=Alola|num1=066|label1={{gameabbrev7|SM}}:|reg2=Alola|num2=372|label2={{gameabbrev7|USUM}}:|reg3=Kanto}}<br />
{{Dex/NE|[[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!|Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]]}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Sun|entry=It will use any means necessary to frighten people and absorb their life energy. It practices constantly to hone its skill in causing fear.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Moon|entry=If you hear a sobbing sound emanating from a vacant room, it's undoubtedly a bit of mischief from Misdreavus.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Ultra Sun|entry=What gives meaning to its life is surprising others. If you set your ear against the red orbs around its neck, you can hear shrieking.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Ultra Moon|entry=What makes it happy is imitating the voices of weeping people and scaring everyone. It doesn't deal well with folks who aren't easily frightened.}}<br />
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{{Dex/NE|[[Pokémon Sword and Shield|Sword and Shield]]}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Brilliant Diamond|entry=It loves to sneak up on people late at night and startle them with its shrieking cry.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Shining Pearl|entry=It gets nourishment from fear that it absorbs into its red orbs. During the daytime, it sleeps in the shadows.}}<br />
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Legends: Arceus|entry=It conceals itself in darkness, sending chills up travelers' spines with its childlike weeping. As it observes the frightened travelers with glee, the red orbs upon its chest let off an eerie light.}}<br />
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<br />
====In events====<br />
{{eventAvail/h|type=Ghost}}<br />
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev2|GSC}}|Gotta Catch 'Em All Station! Hypnosis Misdreavus|English|United States|5|November 1 to 7, 2002;<br/>December 27, 2002 to January 2, 2003|link=List of PCNY event Pokémon distributions (Generation II)#Hypnosis Misdreavus}}<br />
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|RSEFRLG}}|Gather More Pokémon! Third Campaign Misdreavus|Japanese|Japan|10|January 14 to 29, 2006|link=List of Gather More Pokémon! Campaign event Pokémon#Misdreavus}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Held items===<br />
{{HeldItems<br />
|type=Ghost|Frontier=yes<br />
|gsc1=Spell Tag|gsc1type=None|gsc1rar=2<br />
|colo1=Spell Tag|colo1type=None|colo1rar=100<br />
|lg1=Spell Tag|lg1type=None|lg1rar=5<br />
|e1=Spell Tag|e1type=None|e1rar=5<br />
}}<br />
<br />
===Stats===<br />
====Base stats====<br />
{{BaseStats<br />
|type=Ghost<br />
|HP= 60<br />
|Attack= 60<br />
|Defense=60<br />
|SpAtk= 85<br />
|SpDef= 85<br />
|Speed= 85}}<br />
<br />
====Pokéathlon stats====<br />
{{Pokéthlon<br />
|type=Ghost<br />
|Speed=3<br />
|SpeedMax=4<br />
|Power=1<br />
|PowerMax=2<br />
|Technique=3<br />
|TechniqueMax=3<br />
|Stamina=2<br />
|StaminaMax=2<br />
|Jump=5<br />
|JumpMax=5<br />
}}<br />
<br />
===Type effectiveness===<br />
{{TypeEffectiveness<br />
|type1=Ghost<br />
|Normal= 0<br />
|Fighting= 0<br />
|Flying= 100<br />
|Poison= 50<br />
|Ground= 0<br />
|Rock= 100<br />
|Bug= 50<br />
|Ghost= 200<br />
|Steel= 100<br />
|Fire= 100<br />
|Water= 100<br />
|Grass= 100<br />
|Electric=100<br />
|Psychic= 100<br />
|Ice= 100<br />
|Dragon= 100<br />
|Dark= 200<br />
|Fairy= 100<br />
|notes=yes<br />
|ghost=yes<br />
|newnormal=1<br />
|newfighting=1<br />
|levitate=gen2<br />
|newground=1}}<br />
<br />
===Learnset===<br />
Misdreavus is available in {{pkmn|Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl}} and [[Pokémon Legends: Arceus]].<br />
<br />
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br />
{{gameabbrev8|BDSP}}<br />
{{learnlist/levelh/8|Misdreavus|Ghost|Ghost|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|1|Growl|Normal|Status|&mdash;|100|40||}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|1|Confusion|Psychic|Special|50|100|25||}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|5|Spite|Ghost|Status|&mdash;|100|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|10|Astonish|Ghost|Physical|30|100|15||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|14|Confuse Ray|Ghost|Status|&mdash;|100|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|19|Mean Look|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|5||}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|23|Hex|Ghost|Special|65|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|28|Psybeam|Psychic|Special|65|100|20||}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|32|Pain Split|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|20||}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|37|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|41|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|46|Perish Song|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|5||}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|50|Grudge|Ghost|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|5||}}<br />
{{learnlist/level8|55|Power Gem|Rock|Special|80|100|20||}}<br />
{{learnlist/levelf/8|Misdreavus|Ghost|Ghost|2}}<br />
<br />
{{gameabbrev8|LA}}<br />
{{learnlist/levelh/PLA|Misdreavus|Ghost|Ghost|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/levelPLA|1|10|Shadow Sneak|Ghost|Physical|40|100|20||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/levelPLA|6|15|Confusion|Psychic|Special|50|100|20||}}<br />
{{learnlist/levelPLA|11|20|Hypnosis|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|70|20||}}<br />
{{learnlist/levelPLA|18|28|Hex|Ghost|Special|65|100|15||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/levelPLA|25|35|Extrasensory|Psychic|Special|70|100|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/levelPLA|34|45|Power Gem|Rock|Special|80|100|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/levelPLA|43|54|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/levelf/8|Misdreavus|Ghost|Ghost|2}}<br />
<br />
====By [[TM]]====<br />
{{learnlist/tmh/8|Misdreavus|Ghost|Ghost|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM04|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|20||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|5||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM12|Taunt|Dark|Status|&mdash;|100|20||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|5||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM21|Dazzling Gleam|Fairy|Special|80|100|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM24|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|90|100|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM25|Thunder|Electric|Special|110|70|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM29|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM30|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM34|Shock Wave|Electric|Special|60|&mdash;|20||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM40|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|&mdash;|20||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM41|Torment|Dark|Status|&mdash;|100|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|&mdash;|100|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM46|Thief|Dark|Physical|60|100|25||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM48|Skill Swap|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM57|Charge Beam|Electric|Special|50|90|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM58|Endure|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM61|Will-O-Wisp|Fire|Status|&mdash;|85|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM63|Nasty Plot|Dark|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|20||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM66|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM70|Flash|Normal|Status|&mdash;|100|20||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM73|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|&mdash;|90|20||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM79|Dark Pulse|Dark|Special|80|100|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM82|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM85|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|&mdash;|85|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm8|TM92|Trick Room|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|5||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tmf/8|Misdreavus|Ghost|Ghost|2}}<br />
<br />
====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br />
{{learnlist/breedh/8|Misdreavus|Ghost|Ghost|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP/BDSP|092|Gastly}}{{MSP/BDSP|093|Haunter}}{{MSP/BDSP|094|Gengar}}{{MSP/BDSP|353|Shuppet}}{{MSP/BDSP|354|Banette}}{{MSP/BDSP|355|Duskull}}<br>{{MSP/BDSP|356|Dusclops}}{{MSP/BDSP|477|Dusknoir}}{{MSP/BDSP|442|Spiritomb}}|Curse|Ghost|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP/BDSP|092|Gastly}}{{MSP/BDSP|093|Haunter}}{{MSP/BDSP|094|Gengar}}{{MSP/BDSP|109|Koffing}}{{MSP/BDSP|110|Weezing}}{{MSP/BDSP|202|Wobbuffet}}<br>{{MSP/BDSP|425|Drifloon}}{{MSP/BDSP|426|Drifblim}}{{MSP/BDSP|477|Dusknoir}}|Destiny Bond|Ghost|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|5||}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP/BDSP|280|Ralts}}{{MSP/BDSP|281|Kirlia}}{{MSP/BDSP|282|Gardevoir}}{{MSP/BDSP|475|Gallade}}|Imprison|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP/BDSP|088|Grimer}}{{MSP/BDSP|089|Muk}}{{MSP/BDSP|109|Koffing}}{{MSP/BDSP|110|Weezing}}{{MSP/BDSP|442|Spiritomb}}|Memento|Dark|Status|&mdash;|100|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP/BDSP|088|Grimer}}{{MSP/BDSP|089|Muk}}{{MSP/BDSP|353|Shuppet}}{{MSP/BDSP|354|Banette}}|Screech|Normal|Status|&mdash;|85|40||}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP/BDSP|353|Shuppet}}{{MSP/BDSP|354|Banette}}{{MSP/BDSP|355|Duskull}}{{MSP/BDSP|356|Dusclops}}{{MSP/BDSP|477|Dusknoir}}{{MSP/BDSP|442|Spiritomb}}|Shadow Sneak|Ghost|Physical|40|100|30||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP/BDSP|092|Gastly}}{{MSP/BDSP|093|Haunter}}{{MSP/BDSP|094|Gengar}}{{MSP/BDSP|200|Misdreavus}}{{MSP/BDSP|429|Mismagius}}{{MSP/BDSP|353|Shuppet}}<br>{{MSP/BDSP|354|Banette}}{{MSP/BDSP|442|Spiritomb}}|Spite|Ghost|Status|&mdash;|100|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP/BDSP|092|Gastly}}{{MSP/BDSP|093|Haunter}}{{MSP/BDSP|094|Gengar}}{{MSP/BDSP|353|Shuppet}}{{MSP/BDSP|354|Banette}}{{MSP/BDSP|442|Spiritomb}}|Sucker Punch|Dark|Physical|70|100|5||}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed8|{{MSP/BDSP|200|Misdreavus}}{{MSP/BDSP|429|Mismagius}}|Wonder Room|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10|{{colorlink|Grand Underground|000|^}}|}}<br />
{{learnlist/breedf/8|Misdreavus|Ghost|Ghost|2}}<br />
<br />
====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====<br />
{{gameabbrev8|BDSP}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutorh/8|Misdreavus|Ghost|Ghost|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor8null}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutorf/8|Misdreavus|Ghost|Ghost|2}}<br />
<br />
{{gameabbrev8|LA}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutorh/8|Misdreavus|Ghost|Ghost|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor8|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|&mdash;|20||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor8|Swift|Normal|Special|60|&mdash;|20||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor8|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|60|100|15||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor8|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor8|Rest|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor8|Charge Beam|Electric|Special|50|90|15||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor8|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|60|95|20||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor8|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor8|Dazzling Gleam|Fairy|Special|75|100|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor8|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|80|100|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor8|Psychic|Psychic|Special|80|100|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor8|Dark Pulse|Dark|Special|80|&mdash;|10||}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutorf/8|Misdreavus|Ghost|Ghost|2}}<br />
<br />
===={{Trading Card Game}}-only moves====<br />
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background:#{{tcg psychic color light}}; border:3px solid #{{tcg psychic color}}"<br />
|-<br />
! Move<br />
! Card<br />
|-<br />
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{m|Tackle}}<br />
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | [[Misdreavus (Platinum 83)]]<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Side game data===<br />
{{Spindata/Head|type=Ghost}}<br />
{{Spindata/Trozei|col=6|type=Ghost|ndex=200|rarity=Common}}<br />
|-<br />
{{Spindata/MDRB|col=6|type=Ghost|ndex=200<br />
|body=1<br />
|rate=8.8<br />
|area=Darkness Ridge<br />
|P1=Would you like me to pull on your hair?<br />
|P2=Beware...My HP is reduced to half...<br />
|P3=I'm failing... I haven't the energy to pull hair...<br />
|PL=Fufufu...I seem to have leveled up.<br />
}}<br />
|-<br />
{{Spindata/MDTDS|col=6|type=Ghost|ndex=200<br />
|body=1<br />
|rate=8.2<br />
|IQ=G<br />
}}<br />
|-<br />
{{Spindata/Ranger SoA|col=6|type=Ghost<br />
|group=Ghost<br />
|assist=Ghost<br />
|num=220<br />
|browser=It attacks by letting loose psychic orbs and ones imbued with loathsome emotions.<br />
}}<br />
|-<br />
{{Spindata/Ranger GS|col=6|type=Ghost<br />
|group=Ghost<br />
|assist=Ghost<br />
|field=Psy Power<br />
|fieldpower=1<br />
|num=160<br />
|pastnum=215<br />
|browser=To attack, it spits out imbued orbs with loathsome emotions that make Pokémon Tired.<br />
}}<br />
|-<br />
{{Spindata/RumbleBlast|col=6|type=Ghost<br />
|att=3<br />
|def=3<br />
|speed=3<br />
}}<br />
|-<br />
{{Spindata/RumbleRush|col=6|type=Ghost|ndex=200<br />
|walk=2.08<br />
|hp=51<br />
|attack=76<br />
|defense=54<br />
|speed=60<br />
}}<br />
|-<br />
{{Spindata/PokéPark|col=6|type=Ghost|ndex=200<br />
|Pad=Misdreavus was adrift in sorrow when the Piano in the [[Haunted Zone]] was broken. She took comfort in playing {{DL|Attractions|Dusknoir's Speed Slam}}.<br />
}}<br />
|-<br />
{{Spindata/PokéPark2|col=6|type=Ghost|ndex=200<br />
|pad=She has a Photo Studio in [[Cove Town]]. She likes to get the scoop with her Photos, but what she really wants to get with them is the truth.<br />
}}<br />
|-<br />
{{Spindata/Conquest|col=6|type=Ghost|ndex=200<br />
|HP=2<br />
|atk=3<br />
|def=3<br />
|spd=3<br />
|range=3<br />
|move=Astonish<br />
|ability1=Levitate<br />
|evo=Evolves into {{p|Mismagius}} when its [[link]] is improved while its [[Warrior]] is equipped with a [[Dusk Stone]].<br />
|link={{DL|List of Pokémon Conquest characters|Jinpachi}}, '''[[Nō]]''', {{DL|List of Pokémon Conquest characters|Tenkai}}, {{DL|List of Pokémon Conquest characters|Tsuru}}<br />
}}<br />
|-<br />
{{Spindata/Battle Trozei|col=3|type=Ghost|ndex=200<br />
|power=1<br />
}}<br />
{{Spindata/Shuffle|col=3|type=Ghost|ndex=200|num=146<br />
|min=60<br />
|max=105<br />
|raisemaxlevel=5<br />
|skill=Astonish<br />
|skilldesc=Delays your opponent's disruptions.<br />
|swapper=Super Cheer<br />
}}<br />
|-<br />
{{Spindata/GO|col=6|type=Ghost|ndex=200<br />
|hatch=N/A<br />
|buddy=3<br />
|candy=Misdreavus<br />
|evocandy=100 + {{bag/GO|Sinnoh Stone}}1<br />
|stamina=155|attack=167|defense=154<br />
|fast={{m|Astonish}}, {{m|Hex}}<br />
|special={{m|Shadow Sneak}}, {{m|Dark Pulse}}, {{m|Ominous Wind}}, {{m|Frustration}}{{tt|‡|As Shadow Pokémon}}, {{m|Return}}{{tt|‡|As Purified Pokémon}}<br />
}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Evolution===<br />
{{Evobox-2<br />
|type1=Ghost<br />
|pictype=art<br />
|no1=200<br />
|name1=Misdreavus<br />
|type1-1=Ghost<br />
|evo1={{bag|Dusk Stone}}<br>{{color2|000|Dusk Stone}}<br />
|no2=429<br />
|name2=Mismagius<br />
|type1-2=Ghost<br />
}}<br />
<br />
===Sprites===<br />
{{Spritebox/Header|type=Ghost}}<br />
{{Spritebox/NA|II}}<br />
{{Spritebox/2|ndex=200}}<br />
{{Spritebox/3|ndex=200}}<br />
{{Spritebox/4|ndex=200}}<br />
{{Spritebox/5|ndex=200}}<br />
{{Spritebox/6|ndex=200}}<br />
{{Spritebox/7|ndex=200}}<br />
{{Spritebox/8/HOME|ndex=200}}<br />
{{Spritebox/Footer|200|Misdreavus}}<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
* Misdreavus's [[The Legend of Thunder!|first]] [[EP259|two]] {{pkmn|anime}} appearances both involved members of the [[Legendary beasts]] trio: {{p|Raikou}} and {{p|Entei}}, respectively.<br />
* Misdreavus can be seen as a parallel to {{p|Murkrow}}. Both are {{cat|Generation II Pokémon}} whose [[evolution]] process utilizes a [[Dusk Stone]], and their evolved forms were both introduced in [[Generation IV]]. Misdreavus is exclusive to {{game3|FireRed and LeafGreen|Pokémon LeafGreen|s}}, {{game3|Diamond and Pearl|Pearl|s}}, {{game3|Black and White|White|s}}, and {{game3|Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl|Shining Pearl|s}} while {{p|Murkrow}} is exclusive to FireRed, Diamond, Black, and Brilliant Diamond.<br />
* Misdreavus is listed after Murkrow in the [[List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number|National Pokédex]], but its evolved form comes before Murkrow's evolved form.<br />
* Misdreavus is the only {{type|Ghost}} Pokémon introduced in [[Generation II]].<br />
* Misdreavus's base {{stat|HP}}, {{stat|Attack}}, and {{stat|Defense}} stats are the same as {{p|Mismagius}}'s, but its base {{stat|Special Attack}}, {{stat|Special Defense}}, and {{stat|Speed}} stats are lower.<br />
* In {{g|Colosseum}}, Misdreavus is the only Ghost-type Pokémon that can be snagged.<br />
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===Origin===<br />
Misdreavus' nocturnal habits of wailing to frighten people and its similarity in appearance to a disembodied head are shared by various mythological creatures. One of these is the {{wp|Rokurokubi#Rokurokubi whose heads come off (nukekubi)|nukekubi}}, which shares the similarities of nocturnal habits, flying about as a decapitated head, and wailing to increase its victims' fright. Another possible source of origin is the {{wp|banshee}}, a female spirit from {{wp|Irish mythology}}, known for its unearthly wailing and screaming. Its shape also resembles the {{wp|Teru teru bōzu}}.<br />
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====Name origin====<br />
Misdreavus appears to be a corruption of ''mischievous''. It may also incorporate ''mistress'', ''miscreant'' (since it scares people), ''dream'', ''dread'', ''dreary'', and ''reave'' (to rob).<br />
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Muma may be a corruption of 夢魔 ''muma'' (''nightmare'' or a demon in a dream).<br />
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==In other languages==<br />
{{Other languages|type=Ghost|type2=Ghost<br />
|ja=ムウマ ''Muma''|jameaning=From {{tt|夢魔 ''muma''|''nightmare'' or ''a demon in a dream''}}<br />
|fr=Feuforêve|frmeaning=From {{wp|Will-o'-the-wisp|{{tt|''feu follet''|will-o-wisp}}}} and {{tt|''rêve''|dream}}<br />
|es=Misdreavus|esmeaning=Same as English name<br />
|de=Traunfugil |demeaning=From {{tt|''Traum''|dream}}, ''{{tt|Unfug|mischief}}'' and ''evil''<br />
|it=Misdreavus|itmeaning=Same as English name<br />
|ko=무우마 ''Muuma''|komeaning=Transliteration of its Japanese name<br />
|zh_cmn=夢妖 / 梦妖 ''Mèngyāo'' |zh_cmnmeaning=From {{tt|夢 ''mèng''|dream}} and {{tt|妖 ''yāo''|monster, goblin, witch, phantom}}<br />
|ru=Мисдривус ''Misdrivus''|rumeaning=Transcription of English name<br />
|th=มูมา ''Muma''|thmeaning=Transcription of Japanese name<br />
}}<br />
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==Related articles==<br />
* [[Little Miss]]<br />
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==External links==<br />
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{{PokémonPrevNext/Head|type=Ghost}}<br />
{{PokémonPrevNext/Pokémon|type=Ghost|prevnum=199|prev=Slowking|nextnum=201|next=Unown}}<br />
|}<br />
{{Project Pokédex notice}}<br />
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[[Category:Shadow Pokémon in Pokémon Colosseum]]<br />
[[Category:Pokémon with cross-generational evolutions]]<br />
[[Category:Pokémon that evolve by Evolution stone]]<br />
[[Category:Pokémon that evolve using Dusk Stone]]<br />
[[Category:Ranger Partner Pokémon]]<br />
[[Category:Pokémon whose EV yield changed]]<br />
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[[de:Traunfugil]]<br />
[[es:Misdreavus]]<br />
[[fr:Feuforêve]]<br />
[[it:Misdreavus]]<br />
[[ja:ムウマ]]<br />
[[zh:梦妖]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Agnol&diff=3477933Agnol2022-02-15T02:04:22Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* Intro */</p>
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<div>{{CharInfobox|<br />
color={{Shadow color}}|<br />
corecolor={{colo color dark}}|<br />
bordercolor={{Shadow color dark}}|<br />
name=Agnol|<br />
jname=ゾルダン|<br />
tmname=Soldan|<br />
image=Agnol.png|<br />
size=300px|<br />
caption=Agnol in Pokémon Colosseum|<br />
hometown=Unknown|<br />
region=[[Orre]]|<br />
trainer=yes |<br />
trainerclass=Deep King|<br />
game=yes |<br />
generation={{Gen|III}}|<br />
games={{g|Colosseum}}|<br />
gender=Male|}}<br />
'''Agnol''' (Japanese: '''ゾルダン''' ''Soldan'') is the last {{pkmn|Trainer}} in the [[Deep Colosseum]]. [[Wes]] will receive e-mails regularly from [[Nett]] on his [[P★DA]] about him after each completed stage of the Deep Colosseum challenge until the fifth time when he finally faces him. He is the only character in the games to have the {{DL|Pokémon Trainer|Trainer class}} '''Deep King''' (Japanese: '''ボトムキング''' ''Bottom King'').<br />
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Agnol's strategy revolves around using dual-[[type]]s with as few weaknesses as possible. Each of his non-Shadow Pokémon had unique type combinations in Generation III. He also owns the highest-leveled Pokémon that can be fought anywhere in Story Mode, a Kingdra at Level 70.<br />
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Just like the {{tc|Cipher Admin}}s, he may be fought multiple times in the event that his {{p|Shuckle}} is [[snagging|snagged]] or missed. However, the Shuckle is not replaced by another Pokémon after being snagged, unlike most [[Shadow Pokémon]].<br />
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Agnol has the appearance of a {{tc|Bodybuilder}}, but with a unique outfit.<br />
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==Pokémon==<br />
===Before snagging Shuckle===<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{shadow color}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|bordercolor={{shadow color dark}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Deep King Agnol.png{{!}}70px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Deep King<br />
|classlink=Agnol<br />
|name=Agnol<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Deep Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=227<br />
|pokemon=Skarmory<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|gender=female<br />
|level=66<br />
|type1=Steel|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Sturdy<br />
|move1=Steel Wing|move1type=Steel<br />
|move2=Drill Peck|move2type=Flying<br />
|move3=Sand-Attack|move3type=Ground<br />
|move4=Return|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=203<br />
|pokemon=Girafarig<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|gender=female<br />
|level=68<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Psychic|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Light Screen|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Thunderbolt|move4type=Electric}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=302<br />
|pokemon=Sableye<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|gender=male<br />
|level=69<br />
|type1=Dark|type2=Ghost<br />
|ability=Keen Eye<br />
|move1=Faint Attack|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Shadow Ball|move2type=Ghost<br />
|move3=Aerial Ace|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Confuse Ray|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{shadow color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=230<br />
|pokemon=Kingdra<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|gender=male<br />
|level=70<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Dragon<br />
|ability=Swift Swim<br />
|move1=Hydro Pump|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=DragonBreath|move2type=Dragon<br />
|move3=Ice Beam|move3type=Ice<br />
|move4=Attract|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=292<br />
|pokemon=Shedinja<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=68<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Ghost<br />
|ability=Wonder Guard<br />
|move1=Silver Wind|move1type=Bug<br />
|move2=Shadow Ball|move2type=Ghost<br />
|move3=Confuse Ray|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Dig|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3/Shadow<br />
|ndex=213<br />
|pokemon=Shuckle<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=45<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Rock<br />
|ability=Sturdy<br />
|move1=Shadow Rush|move1type=Shadow<br />
|move2=Encore|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Rest|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Bide|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
===After snagging Shuckle===<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{shadow color}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|bordercolor={{shadow color dark}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Deep King Agnol.png{{!}}70px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Deep King<br />
|classlink=Agnol<br />
|name=Agnol<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Deep Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=5}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=227<br />
|pokemon=Skarmory<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|gender=female<br />
|level=66<br />
|type1=Steel|type2=Flying<br />
|ability=Sturdy<br />
|move1=Steel Wing|move1type=Steel<br />
|move2=Drill Peck|move2type=Flying<br />
|move3=Sand-Attack|move3type=Ground<br />
|move4=Return|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=203<br />
|pokemon=Girafarig<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|gender=female<br />
|level=68<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Psychic|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Light Screen|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Thunderbolt|move4type=Electric}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=302<br />
|pokemon=Sableye<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|gender=male<br />
|level=69<br />
|type1=Dark|type2=Ghost<br />
|ability=Keen Eye<br />
|move1=Faint Attack|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Shadow Ball|move2type=Ghost<br />
|move3=Aerial Ace|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Confuse Ray|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{shadow color}}}}<br />
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=230<br />
|pokemon=Kingdra<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|gender=male<br />
|level=70<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Dragon<br />
|ability=Swift Swim<br />
|move1=Hydro Pump|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=DragonBreath|move2type=Dragon<br />
|move3=Ice Beam|move3type=Ice<br />
|move4=Attract|move4type=Normal}}<br />
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=292<br />
|pokemon=Shedinja<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|level=68<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Ghost<br />
|ability=Wonder Guard<br />
|move1=Silver Wind|move1type=Bug<br />
|move2=Shadow Ball|move2type=Ghost<br />
|move3=Confuse Ray|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Dig|move4type=Ground}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
==Quotes==<br />
{{incomplete|2=Quote if battle is lost, if battle is won without Shadow Pokémon}}<br />
* Before battle<br />
:''"Kekeke! You're challenging me? You don't know what you're in for!"''<br />
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* Being defeated<br />
:''"I see... You are skilled!"''<br />
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:''"Kekeke! <br> Try not to overdo it!"''<br />
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:''"You don't know the meaning <br> of reckless, do you?"''<br />
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:''"You really are strong!<br> Outstandingly so!"''<br />
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;''"Kukuku... I'm AGNOL, also called DEEP KING! I enjoyed battling you. But you're still a greenhorn! So long as I have my SHADOW SHUCKLE, I'll take on your challenge at the DEEP COLOSSEUM anytime!"''--><br />
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==In other languages==<br />
{{langtable|color={{colo color}}|bordercolor={{shadow color dark}}<br />
|fr=Zoltan<br />
|de=Zoltan<br />
|it=Agnol<br />
|es=Aitor<br />
}}<br />
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''Deep King''<br />
{{langtable|color={{colo color}}|bordercolor={{shadow color dark}}<br />
|fr=Roi Targare<br />
|de=Tartaron<br />
|it=Re Abisso<br />
|es=Colossus<br />
}}<br />
{{-}}<br />
{{Cipher}}<br><br />
{{Orre trainers}}<br><br />
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}<br />
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[[Category:Game characters]]<br />
[[Category:Colosseum characters]]<br />
[[Category:Male characters]]<br />
[[Category:Trainers with unique classes]]<br />
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[[de:Komplettlösung Pokémon Colosseum (nach der Hauptstory)#5. Durchgang]]<br />
[[es:Aitor]]<br />
[[fr:Zoltan]]<br />
[[it:Agnol]]<br />
[[ja:ゾルダン]]<br />
[[zh:佐魯檀]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Shadow_Pok%C3%A9mon&diff=3463212Talk:Shadow Pokémon2022-01-26T00:38:52Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* No Speed boost in XD? */ new section</p>
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<div>Don't forget that [[Pokemon XD]] has new Shadow attacks.-Poknecyclopedia<br />
:What's preventing you from editing that into articles? You're a big boy. [[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]] 17:33, 6 Aug 2005 (CDT)<br />
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== Dull ==<br />
<br />
I don't mean to come off rude, but I find this page a little dull. The lists are a bit bland, etc.<br />
<br />
I was wondering we could add something like [[Appendix:Pokémon Colosseum walkthrough/Obtainable Pokémon list|this]] or [[Appendix:Pokémon XD walkthrough/Shadow Pokémon List|this]], but not nearly as detailed. We could make it smaller with mini-sprites and remove trainer/location/both. (note this obviously doesn't include the "Other Pokémon" section)<br />
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Just an idea, [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 16:54, 23 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== That Shadow Spearow... ==<br />
<br />
Is it me, or is that picture a horrible quality? It looks like a purple smudge in the middle of some brown.<br />
Is there any clearer pictures we could use?<br />
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[[User:Sssteelix!|Sssteelix!]] 20:29, 31 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== I Just Found This ==<br />
http://www.smogon.com/forums/group.php?do=discuss&gmid=88589<br />
Apparently Shadow Pokémon are getting stat boosts that effectively make them higher leveled. This should definitely be added to the article. [[User:BOOXMOWO|BOOXMOWO]] ([[User talk:BOOXMOWO|talk]]) 23:16, 17 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Stats and Natures ==<br />
<br />
There are a lot of contradicting sources in the internet which state that the Nature and IVs of Shadow Pokémon are randomized only on the first encounter. After that, the Pokémon have always the same Nature and IVs of the first encounter. Other sources claim that the Natures and IVs are always randomized, no matter which encounter it is. Anyone has checked this with a hex editor or something? A little of technical clarification would be much welcome in the article. '''[[User:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#008800">h</span><span style="color:#000000">fc</span>]][[User talk:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#000000">2</span><span style="color:#008800">X</span>]]''' 16:50, 18 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hm. Why don't you ask for this to be [[Bulbapedia:Spading#Generation III|spaded]]? [[User:Mathfreak231|<span class="explain" title="Mathfreak">MF</span>]][[User talk:Mathfreak231|23]][[Special:Contributions/Mathfreak231|1]] 20:48, 18 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Stab ==<br />
Are shadow moves stab?<br />
I don't think they are based off damage done compared to weaker stab moves. {{unsigned|Annadog40}}<br />
:According to our article on [[shadow move]]s, they have no type. Since STAB depends on type, a move without a type can't have STAB. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:02, 29 January 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokérus and Shadow pokemon ==<br />
Is there a way to hack Pokérus onto a shadow pokemon. I read that pokérus can be transferred over to the game cube games but the lack of a time mechanic in the games makes it so that it doesn't run out and I read that it probably doesn't spread.<br />
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Becase pokérus is the closest thing I can think of to Shadow pokemon status. {{unsigned|Annadog40}}<br />
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== No Speed boost in XD? ==<br />
<br />
I've noticed the comment about Shadow Pokémon in XD having a 50% Speed boost. I have done some tests and have not seen this to be true in practice, whether the Shadow Pokémon is the opposing Trainer's or caught by the player. I have noticed the "Shadow Boost" to come into effect, but not a boost to Speed of that proportion. Can anyone else verify this? If this 50% boost does not exist, it should be removed. [[User:ScottOshawott|ScottOshawott]] ([[User talk:ScottOshawott|talk]]) 00:38, 26 January 2022 (UTC)</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pok%C3%A9_Coupon&diff=3008472Talk:Poké Coupon2019-08-06T22:44:29Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* Legendary Pokémon Coupon Penalty */ new section</p>
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<div>==Spending Poké Coupons==<br />
Could somebody add a table with information about the items that can be purchased with Poké Coupons? If that information is already on the wiki, it can be linked to this page. --[[User: CWallace |<span style="font-family:Georgia;color: CC0033">C. Wallace</span>]] <small>''[[User talk: CWallace |<span style="font-family:Georgia;color:blue ">TALK</span>]]''</small> 14:35, 23 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Where and How Many Coupons are Earned (GameCube Games) ==<br />
<br />
I would like to add tables to show how many Poké Coupons are earned in each Stadium, Mt. Battle area, etc., particularly the Stadiums in Battle Mode for Colosseum because, as far as I have been able to see, there is nowhere on this wiki with that info. It also would make it easy to look up how each location gives Coupons, while also allowing me or others to edit those sections that don't have those rewards listed. I'm guessing I need to use this section to make notes prior to putting any tables in the actual article to prevent incomplete things being posted. <br />
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==Colosseum (Battle Mode)==<br />
<ab><br />
Phenac Stadium (Singles): 500 Coupons<br />
Phenac Stadium (Doubles): 500 Coupons<br />
Pyrite Colosseum (Singles): ??? Coupons<br />
Pyrite Colosseum (Doubles): ??? Coupons<br />
Under Colosseum (Singles): 1275 Coupons (w/ 1 Legendary in Party) --> 1500 Coupons?<br />
Under Colosseum (Doubles): 1083 Coupons (w/ 2 Legendaries in Party) --> 1500 Coupons?<br />
Orre Colosseum [Lv. 50] (Singles): 1228 Coupons (w/ 3 Legendaries in Party) --> 2000 Coupons?<br />
Orre Colosseum [Lv. 50] (Doubles): 1228 Coupons (w/ 3 Legendaries in Party) --> 2000 Coupons?<br />
Tower Colosseum (Singles): ??? Coupons<br />
Tower Colosseum (Doubles): ??? Coupons<br />
Orre Colosseum [Lv. 100] (Singles): ??? Coupons<br />
Orre Colosseum [Lv. 100] (Doubles): ??? Coupons<br />
</ab><br />
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[[User:ScottOshawott|ScottOshawott]] ([[User talk:ScottOshawott|talk]]) 22:40, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Legendary Pokémon Coupon Penalty ==<br />
<br />
While this and other articles have stated Pokémon Colosseum has a 13% reduction for each Legendary Pokemon used, my recent battles have shown math more akin to 15% reduction. I will try and do a follow-up on these Colosseums using no Legendary Pokémon to obtain a more accurate picture on what the percentage penalty is.<br />
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[[User:ScottOshawott|ScottOshawott]] ([[User talk:ScottOshawott|talk]]) 22:44, 6 August 2019 (UTC)</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pok%C3%A9_Coupon&diff=3008471Talk:Poké Coupon2019-08-06T22:40:20Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* Colosseum (Battle Mode) */ Added info on earned Coupons</p>
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<div>==Spending Poké Coupons==<br />
Could somebody add a table with information about the items that can be purchased with Poké Coupons? If that information is already on the wiki, it can be linked to this page. --[[User: CWallace |<span style="font-family:Georgia;color: CC0033">C. Wallace</span>]] <small>''[[User talk: CWallace |<span style="font-family:Georgia;color:blue ">TALK</span>]]''</small> 14:35, 23 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Where and How Many Coupons are Earned (GameCube Games) ==<br />
<br />
I would like to add tables to show how many Poké Coupons are earned in each Stadium, Mt. Battle area, etc., particularly the Stadiums in Battle Mode for Colosseum because, as far as I have been able to see, there is nowhere on this wiki with that info. It also would make it easy to look up how each location gives Coupons, while also allowing me or others to edit those sections that don't have those rewards listed. I'm guessing I need to use this section to make notes prior to putting any tables in the actual article to prevent incomplete things being posted. <br />
<br />
==Colosseum (Battle Mode)==<br />
<ab><br />
Phenac Stadium (Singles): 500 Coupons<br />
Phenac Stadium (Doubles): 500 Coupons<br />
Pyrite Colosseum (Singles): ??? Coupons<br />
Pyrite Colosseum (Doubles): ??? Coupons<br />
Under Colosseum (Singles): 1275 Coupons (w/ 1 Legendary in Party) --> 1500 Coupons?<br />
Under Colosseum (Doubles): 1083 Coupons (w/ 2 Legendaries in Party) --> 1500 Coupons?<br />
Orre Colosseum [Lv. 50] (Singles): 1228 Coupons (w/ 3 Legendaries in Party) --> 2000 Coupons?<br />
Orre Colosseum [Lv. 50] (Doubles): 1228 Coupons (w/ 3 Legendaries in Party) --> 2000 Coupons?<br />
Tower Colosseum (Singles): ??? Coupons<br />
Tower Colosseum (Doubles): ??? Coupons<br />
Orre Colosseum [Lv. 100] (Singles): ??? Coupons<br />
Orre Colosseum [Lv. 100] (Doubles): ??? Coupons<br />
</ab><br />
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[[User:ScottOshawott|ScottOshawott]] ([[User talk:ScottOshawott|talk]]) 22:40, 6 August 2019 (UTC)</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pok%C3%A9rus&diff=3002819Talk:Pokérus2019-07-22T21:45:59Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* Glitch in Colosseum - Pokérus doesn't work? */ new section</p>
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<div>==PC==<br />
In my Pokémon Gold game, My Pokémon with PokéRus doesn't infect others stored in the PC, and doesn't even become immune unless it's in my party. For me there's only a chance that others become infected when I heal at the Pokémon Center, not automatic as the article implies. My Pokémon take about two days to heal. But before I edit the page, I wanted to ask if it is possible that PokéRus can act different for different trainers? -- [[user:Slim|Slim]]<br />
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That's how PokeRus should act. It spreads within the party, and a pogey in the PC will not lose PokeRus status. [[User:Evkl|evkl]] 14:21, 6 October 2005 (CDT)<br />
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== Pokemon Rocks America ==<br />
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I got a Ho-Oh and Lugia from Pokemon Rocks America 2005, and a Metang, but none of them have PokeRus, as it states in the article. [[User:Lukario|Lukario]] 18:19, 28 November 2005 (CST)<br />
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== Glitch? ==<br />
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Wait, is PokéRus a glitch? -- [[User:Theryguy512|Ryguy]] 19:34, 29 July 2007 {EST}<br />
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::No. PokéRus is not a glitch. [[User:Jonah|Jonah]] 00:39, 30 July 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Telling if a wild pokemon has pokerus ==<br />
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i heard on a website that to get pokerus that you had to catch a pokemon with it, and to tell if it had pokerus ( while it's still in the wild) that it would have a status condition when it first appears. is this true?<br />
:No. You can't tell if a wild Pokémon has PokéRus, however, you can catch the disease from it without catching the Pokémon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[wp:Echidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">E</span><span style="color:#0000FF;">chidna</span>]]''' 08:35, 3 August 2007 (UTC)<br />
::thanks [[User:Amben27|amben]] 04:54, 20 August 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Day care? ==<br />
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Does the virus wear off in the day care center? I just got a Tangela, and I want to breed it but I want the virus to spread to my team too. >_>; [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 23:23, 6 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I think it will, but you could just spread it around before throwing it in the daycare by leaving it fifth in the party and battling random things. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 01:52, 7 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Oh shi-- good thing I got a good natured Tangela within the fifth egg. *runs off to Day care grabbing Tangela and sticks in party* [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 01:55, 7 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Hm, my Pokérus Ditto breeder is still infecting, after five days in the daycare. Has anyone's virus wore off? -- [[User:Pro-mole|Professional Mole]]([[User talk:Pro-mole|<small>Talk here</small>]]) 23:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Egg==<br />
Is it possible to get a pokerus from a egg. My friend told me that he had. --[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#008000;">'''Darth'''</span>]][[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#FF0000;">'''Cookie'''</span>]][[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Monster'''</span>]] 23:51, 6 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
:My sister got PokéRus from an egg.. the virus spread to the egg, though, then the egg spread it around the party. When it hatched, however, it was immune. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 23:55, 6 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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I mean the egg hatched from the daycare, and it had pokerus. --[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#008000;">'''Darth'''</span>]][[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#FF0000;">'''Cookie'''</span>]][[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Monster'''</span>]] 00:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Eggs can get it, you likely got it on the egg soon after getting the egg from the daycare, and didn't check it until after it got the rus. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 01:54, 7 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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Yes, Eggs can get Pokerus too:<br><br>http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/7/70/Pokerus_egg.jpg<br><br>but when it hatched, the burmy inside still had it. '''[[User:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#008800">h</span><span style="color:#000000">fc</span>]][[User talk:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#000000">2</span><span style="color:#008800">X</span>]]''' 20:22, 5 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== No middle caps ==<br />
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This is an excerpt from Pokémon Diamond at the Pokémon Center:<br /><br />
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''Little is known about the Pokérus except that they are microscopic life-forms that attach to Pokémon.''<br/><br />
''While infected, Pokémon are said to grow exceptionally well.''<br/><br />
It's only two ocurrences of the word. Where did it appear with middle caps originally anyway? In some summary of the [[SS008|Oaknapped episode]]? --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 06:26, 12 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
:That's how everything with Poké is spelled. It's a Poké Ball, it's PokéRus. Etc. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 06:29, 12 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Well, this one resulted being an exception :). I'm just trying to help by using spelling from the game. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 06:35, 12 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
::You know? I believe it's because "-rus" is a suffix and not a word. You can bet /pokevirus/ would be spelt "PokéVirus" for sure, hehe. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 07:04, 12 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Conditions for immunization? ==<br />
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I have the impression that the immunization of my infected party happened too early... I didn't walk too much, and closed my DS without turning it off by about 30 minutes. In Generation IV, does it depend on certain number of steps, or on real time? Remember that the DS does have a clock.<br />
Sadly I saved twice, and never noticed that my party was already immune before the second save (I managed to store only 1 infected Pokémon). --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 06:35, 12 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
:My experience shows a Pokémon only immunizes if it is in your party at midnight. If you leave your Pokémon in your party, instead of storing it at a box or at the daycare, turn off the game and turn it on again after midnight passes, the Pokémon will be immunized. It will also immunize if the game is on, anyway.-- [[User:Pro-mole|Professional Mole]]([[User talk:Pro-mole|<small>Talk here</small>]]) 23:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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The article for Pokerus says "Any Pokémon on the player's party at the moment the system clock reaches midnight after a certain number of days in that position...will become immune." Does that refer to the position of the Pokémon WITHIN the player's party or the fact that the Pokémon is in the player's party?--[[User:Trashninja|Trashninja]] ([[User talk:Trashninja|talk]]) 08:55, 15 June 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== In Pokémon FireRed ==<br />
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I have a [[Tauros (Pokémon)|Tauros]] in Firered, but I can't make it infect my other pokemon in the party. How is this? [[User:Hfc2x|Hfc2x]] 00:25, 17 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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Have they already had it?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#000000;">'''C '''</span>]] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#000000;">'''Is'''</span>]] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|<span style="color:#000000;">'''for Cookie'''</span>]]<br />
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::nopes. I know that pokemon get a black dot when they already had it 'cause my brother has PokéRus too, so I asked him to infect my pokemon too. I traded him my tauros, so he infected it and traded it back, but I can't make my pokemon get it too. =( [[User:Hfc2x|Hfc2x]] 04:57, 17 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Strange. My cousin traded me a Dialga with PokéRus, it infected my party and I traded it back. The Rus spread all around. I wonder...'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|<span class="explain" title="<nowiki>Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum</span>]]</sc><sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]</sup>{{{1|09:10 11 Mar 2008}}}'''<br />
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Pokémon can't be infected in FRLG since there's no clock. It never spreads, but it never goes away either. The games are like a giant PC. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:14, 11 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Ah...I see. -thinks about it- So an infected Pokémon traded to Red/Blue/Green/Yellow and traded back will still have the Rus? '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|<span class="explain" title="<nowiki>Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum</span>]]</sc><sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]</sup>{{{1|09:16 11 Mar 2008}}}'''<br />
::From Gen II to Gen I, I'm not too sure. But from RSE to FRLG, it'll be made permanent for however long it's in FRLG. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:32, 11 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::In Gen II pokerus acts as any held item when traded to Gen I: it's still there, but you can't see it. When you trade back from Gen I to Gen II, the pokemon will still have its held item, shiny status and pokerus. =) '''[[User:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#008800">h</span><span style="color:#000000">fc</span>]][[User talk:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#000000">2</span><span style="color:#008800">X</span>]]''' 18:39, 16 April 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== quick way ==<br />
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what is the quickest way to spread it?<br />
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http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Dakclaw<br />
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:Battle. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:32, 11 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Obtained the Pokérus today ==<br />
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Sup guys, I obtained the Pokérus today while (I believe) wandering around the Fuego Ironworks. I was told I had them when I healed my party at a pokecenter by Nurse Joy. I currently have 4 infected right now, but I don't want to trade any of them. If anyone can tell me how to infect lots of other pokemon very fast, I'll be more than happy to trade you an infected guy (hopefully for something to make it worthwhile). I've never done wifi trading before, so I will have to learn that as well...Anyone got any advice?--[[User:Dragonite42|Dragonite42]] 06:30, 10 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Battle. Battle, get all six infected, switch out all but one, repeat. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:01, 10 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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::I obtained a {{p|Bidoof}} through the GTS with the Pokérus (its nickname is even Pokerus). I haven't found a use for it though, so it's just hanging out at my Ranch. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 19:22, 10 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Ok, hmmm, is there a place on Bulbapedia to organize trades? I've got about 20 infected so far. I don't know if pokemon stored in the computer become uninfected after 2 days though. --[[User:Dragonite42|Dragonite42]] 00:07, 11 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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I don't think that a boxed Pokémon will infect others. Also, most users will say to use the forums to organize trades. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 00:10, 11 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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hey, Im using my wii to type this (computer's broken) so I cant really edit much on this question.<br />
I just read from the article that a pokemon will continue to gain double EVs even after being immunized. Is this true, because I havent heard about this from any other website?<br />
:Yeah, it's true ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 20:03, 12 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Hey!! ==<br />
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Pokémon Eggs can be infected in RSE too. Not only in DP! '''[[User:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#008800">h</span><span style="color:#000000">fc</span>]][[User talk:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#000000">2</span><span style="color:#008800">X</span>]]''' 02:05, 6 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:Absolutely right. should this be be stated in the article?[[User:BlueGasMask|BlueGasMask]] 04:43, 2 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== After the infection ==<br />
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"Though the virus is gone, its positive effects will remain, most specifically the ability for that Pokémon to gain double EVs."<br />I've heard myself that it gains 2x EV's when it has the PokéRus sign and then 1.5x EV's when it wears off. Which one is correct? <span style="color: #3FFF00; font-weight: bold">UltimateSephiroth</span> <sup>(<span style="color: #003FFF">[[User:UltimateSephiroth|user]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|contrib]]</span>)</sup> 21:09, 31 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
:its always 2x EVs, the only difference when the pokemon is cured is that it cant pass the infection on. --[[User:Guardian|<font color="#0000FF">Guardian</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian|<font color="#FFFF00"> of</font>]][[User talk:Guardian|<font color="#FF0000"> Earth</font>]] |[[GSDS|<font color="#00FF00">SGMS 2010</font>]]<br />
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== More Specific Info about spreading ==<br />
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Do we have more info on spreading? Such as odds, formulas, methods for quick spreading... we already know it will spread after battle, but the results vary much. Once I had three eggs infected with one battle, and another time it took me 5 battles to infect one pokémon of five "clean". Don't we have more info? -- [[User:Pro-mole|Professional Mole]]([[User talk:Pro-mole|<small>Talk here</small>]]) 23:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Immunization and Species ==<br />
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It seems we have a disagreement on how immunization happens. From my own experience, no Pokémon lasts more than one midnight with the Pokérus active(in Pokémon Diamond). Please provide testimonials to extend the concept. -- [[User:Pro-mole|Professional Mole]]([[User talk:Pro-mole|<small>Talk here</small>]]) 16:30, 10 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:I've gotten strains in [[Generation II]] and [[Generation IV]] last more than one midnight in the party. In fact, I've NEVER had a Pokérus in Generation II that vanished after just one midnight. The strain I got in [[Generation III]] lasted only one midnight, regardless of whether it was cured in Generation III or Generation IV. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:41, 10 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:: Would you mind specifying which ones? I've infected a Treecko in one night at 11PM, and at midnight it was immune. Not to mention once I was trading with a person, was waiting for him to get online with an infected Squirtle(hatched and infected the same night) and it got immune. -- [[User:Pro-mole|Professional Mole]]([[User talk:Pro-mole|<small>Talk here</small>]]) 16:51, 10 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Drugs... ==<br />
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So if a Pokémon has the Pokérus, does it affect the amount of EVs it gains when it takes drugs? For example, a Carbos usually gives 10 Speed EVs. Will this increase to 20 with the addition of Pokérus, or are the drugs not affected by it?--[[User:Ggled|Ggled]] 11:05, 28 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
: No, the only EVs affected are the ones given by battling. Vitamins will still give 10EVs. --[[User:Raylax|Raylax]] 18:39, 11 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== "small life forms" ==<br />
Technically it is incorrect to say that because a virus is not a life form, although it does infect living things. Just thought I'd throw that out =p. [[User:DesiAdame|DesiAdame]] 05:05, 11 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Try emailing Nintendo. I'm sure they'll be happy to hear you out. We, unfortunately, can't do anything about that. &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 05:14, 11 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
::I assume Pokérus is a portmanteau of Pokémon and Virus. Viruses isn't a life form. They're agents that survive off other living things.--[[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 05:29, 11 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
I suppose you could be pedantic if you really wanted, but you never know, viruses in the Pokémon world may be alive... it wouldn't be the most farfetch'd thing in that game (ucwutididthar?)--[[User:Ggled|Ggled]]<br />
:::As I recall, the Pokémon Center's nurse tells about it. '''<span style="color:#A18DC4">◄</span>[[User:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#98D8D8">Kev</span>]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#98D8D8">zo8</span>]]<span style="color:#A18DC4">►</span>''' 06:50, 11 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
::::Someone go get a screenshot(s) of it. The article could use it. &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 07:04, 11 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::::Yes, the nurse does talk to you about it, but only the first time you present it to her.--[[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 07:19, 11 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Didn't Work ==<br />
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My brother had pokerus long ago in his party pokemon and he managed to clone his favorite pokemon, a level 100 Luxray and trade it from his Pearl to my Platinum as a gift, so I could get through the Victory Road as fast as I could because I was desperate to migrate from my Emerald, but when I got to the elite 4 and cured my pokemon in that pokemon center nurse joy told me about pokerus, that my pokemon had it now, but I though she was talking about the luxray that had had it, so I tried it again with other pokemon he gave me with pokerus and she didn't tell me a thing about it, so I thought she wasn't counfused, and that my other party pokemon had it, but they never had the Status "pokerus" and do not have the smiley face, I know how it looks, can see it in other pokemon but the pokemon of mine that should have it don't have it, how's that possible? didn't do anything!! It just wore away and left everthing the same!! They don't have it! like if they had never, even though nurse Joy told me they did. That happened long ago, so it's really gone. Do you understand what I say? LOL. I had read this article before that happened to me and it said that it goes away, and PC storage, etc, I did it all but didn't work. MY POKEMON DON'T HAVE IT EVEN AFTER NURSE JOY TOLD MY THEY DID!! [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 17:43, 2 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
:I think that it may just not have spread from your Luxray. Every time you battle, I think that there's a chance of the other Pokémon in your party getting infected (correct me if I'm wrong here, I may be wrong on the mechanics). But the principle is, I think that the virus just didn't spread to the rest of your Pokémon. Not only that, but the nurse at the Pokémon Center will only tell you about the existence of Pokérus the first time you heal a Pokémon with it, she won't mention it again after that. [[User:Ggled|Ggled]] 08:56, 3 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::I don't think that only Luxray caught it because in the first place LOL I had it already before and it can't get infected again wich means other of my party pokemon had it... but somehow it cured it and and the effects didn't stay...oh well anyway thanks for helping :D, it doen't matter anymore to me because I had to restart my game so those pokemon are lost, I only brought it up because I though the article could be a lil wrong and could add somewhere that pokerus can be lost :(. Thank you [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 18:27, 7 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Question ==<br />
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Is it possible to determine ''why'' a pokemon receives this disease?--[[User:Tmwps|Thomas Michael William Patrick Sales]] 16:52, 15 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Not unless you catch the one random wild Pokémon you encounter with it from the wild. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 00:06, 16 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Let us suppose ==<br />
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we have a milotic, which is holding a power lens, and has pokerus. this milotic of ours beats a gastly, which gives 1 special attack ev. how many special attack EVs will our milotic get? [[User:Empath-Silvio|Empath-Silvio]] 15:06, 30 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
: Gastly gives 1EV in SAtk, then Power Lens gives an extra 4EVs. Pokérus will then double the total to 10EVs. --[[User:Raylax|Raylax]] 18:40, 11 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Figured out how Pokérus transfers! ==<br />
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So this is for Generation IV only as I haven't tested it with other gens. <br />
YES you can place an infected pokemon in the box and it WILL keep the virus.<br />
NO the virus will not transfer to other pokemon in the box (and if it does it takes well over two weeks of gameplay)<br />
YES the infected pokemon will spread the virus to others in your party, AFTER BATTLES. So in order to get the Pokérus spread you have to have an infected pokemon in your party. --[[User:Bageese|Bageese]] 02:25, 25 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokerus on a Shiny Pokemon? ==<br />
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If the chance of Finding a Shiny pokemon is somewher around 1/8000 or something, and the chance of finding a Wild pokemon with Pokerus is around 3/60000, then what is the chance of Finding a Shiny Pokemon with Pokerus in the wild?[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 14:12, 18 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Around 1/160,000,00, I suppose. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 10:25, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==POKeRUS removed in G1?==<br />
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This article states that POKeMON with POKeRUS in G2, infected or cured, would have all traces<br />
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== What are the odds? ==<br />
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I have been playing Pokémon for about 9 years now (My first game was Silver) and never once in the entire time I have played it or Gold, Crystal, FireRed, or SoulSilver encountered a Shiny Pokémon (other than the usual suspect of the Red Gyarados) or a Pokémon with Pokérus, and yet it seems like everyone talks about getting them like its a common everyday thing to get, nor does it seem like I can ever get my Pokémon to breed at the daycare as it seems they never like each other. More often then not when I battle with friends they always seem to have the hyper powerful Pokémon that they leveled up from the breeding process with Pokérus that easily 1-shot my Pokémon of the exact same type and level with absolutley no difficulty whatsoever... Is there any way to increase my chances of getting Shiny Pokémon or one with Pokérus? Or do I have to just grind it out? {{unsigned|HandofCreation0}}<br />
:How about you [[Shiny Pokémon|read]] the [[Pokérus|articles]]? D: The chances. and all the mechanics. are right there. Right where they're supposed to be. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|<span style="color:#d93f91;">Ťïňắ</span>]]'' <sup>[[User talk:Tina|<span style="color:#ae41d9;">♫</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|<span style="color:#d941cf;">♥</span>]]</sup> 19:05, 3 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::#Pokemon need to be compatible in order to breed. See [[Pokémon breeding]].<br />
::#Pokerus, once found, can be easily cultivated and spread. See [[Pokérus]].<br />
::#There are methods to improve your chances of finding shiny Pokemon. See [[Masuda method]] and [[Poké Radar]].<br />
::#Please sign your comments with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).<br />
::<span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 19:12, 3 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Pokérus Spread and Traded Pokemon==<br />
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Not too long ago, I got Pokérus in SoulSilver. This was the first time I'd ever gotten Pokérus, so naturally I took advantage of the next opportunity I got to trade some Pokérus vectors into my Diamond version. I then tried to spread Pokérus to the rest of my party from the two infected Poliwags I sent over. I battled several times--must have been around ten--with no successful spreading, which I thought was odd, since it never took more than one or two battles in SoulSilver. Somewhat annoyed, I went back to the nearest Pokémon Center to heal my party, and then got the speech from the nurse about them finding Pokérus on my Pokémon (since I hadn't yet taken the Poliwags to any Pokémon center). After that, I was able to spread Pokérus just as efficiently as I had on SoulSilver. So is it just coincidence, or will Pokérus on traded Pokémon be unable to spread until they're brought to a Pokémon Center for the first time? If it's not a coincidence, it might be worth mentioning in the article. [[User:HerbieHero|HerbieHero]] 20:34, 29 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== I get the idea, but: ==<br />
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So the EVs a Pokemon receives in battle are doubled, that I can understand. But does it double the total amount of EVs a Pokemon will end up with?<br />
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I guess what I'm saying is, will a Pokemon that has been infected by the Pokerus have higher stats at lv100 than a Pokemon that never caught the disease? [[User:Shady|Shady]] 20:48, 1 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Nope. It simply makes it easier/faster for a Pokemon to reach maximum EVs. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 20:53, 1 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokérus "Image" ==<br />
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The Purple Pokérus rectangle has a problem. Because of Bulbapedia having a white background, the top of the P and the bottom of the K is invisble unless the letters are highlighed. Is that OK? Should something be done to "fix" it? [[User:Valorum27|Valorum27]] 03:56, 8 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I'm not having problems with it. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 15:56, 8 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::That's hardly productive. We should strive to improve what we have, not shrug at the prospect of improvement. Just because you can live without the changes doesn't mean they shouldn't be made. [[User:Shady|Shady]] 18:29, 8 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Um... what? I was saying that ''on my computer I don't see anything wrong with it'', not that "Oh, yeah, we could maybe fix it, but I don't give a crap." There is 1 row of purple pixels that should probably be {{tt|added to the top|which I don't know if it can be done}}, since yeah, the top of the P does blend a little. There isn't anything wrong on the K that I can see, though. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 19:10, 8 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
[[Image:PKRS screenshot.png|thumb|right|What it looks like on my computer.]]<br />
::::My bad, I completely misunderstood what you meant. I've uploaded a screenshot of the problem as it appears on a Mac OS X with 1280 x 800 resolution, using the latest version of Firefox. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar{{#ifeq: |Night|_Night}}.png|Pokémon Dollar|link=Pokémon Dollar]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 19:23, 8 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::[http://i41.tinypic.com/2zxxxud.jpg This] is what it looks like in IE. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 19:46, 8 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::Yeah, I just checked it in Safari and Google Chrome and it looks okay. Firefox seems to be the only browser that doesn't show all of it. Any ideas? [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar{{#ifeq: |Night|_Night}}.png|Pokémon Dollar|link=Pokémon Dollar]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 21:44, 8 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::::It's not Firefox that's the problem, [http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/xx10/Werdnae/PKRS.png This] is what it looks like for me, I'm using Firefox running in Vista at 1366 x 768. I think it must be the combination of Firefox and OS X that is causing the problem. And yes, I'm using the latest version of firefox, I've got it updating itself automatically. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</sc> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 22:25, 8 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Wow. Is it even possible to fix it if it's that specific? [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar{{#ifeq: |Night|_Night}}.png|Pokémon Dollar|link=Pokémon Dollar]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 23:43, 8 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Mm... I don't think you can, since it isn't a template, but a text format. Do the letters still look odd in this: <sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sc>rs</sc> And then: <span style="background:#1111FF; color:#fff"><sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sc>rs</sc></span> '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 00:01, 9 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
(unindent) They don't look odd when you're normal using super and subscript, but when you add the background color they do. It seems to be the background color that's causing the problem. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar{{#ifeq: |Night|_Night}}.png|Pokémon Dollar|link=Pokémon Dollar]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 00:26, 9 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Check that- I think the problem is that the font of the actual letters is white. The background color doesn't stretch vertically to fit the top of the "P" and the bottom of the "K", and since the letters are white, they can't be seen against a white background. The letters still show up on my screen if I do this: <span style="background:#1111FF; color:#000000"><sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sc>rs</sc></span> They're just out of the background "box". [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar{{#ifeq: |Night|_Night}}.png|Pokémon Dollar|link=Pokémon Dollar]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 00:29, 9 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Hmm.. it looks different here on the talk page than it does on the article itself... and it looks different when the last changes are being viewed also. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 04:45, 9 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Hopefully this will remedy the problem. The page now uses the infection icon shown on the Gen IV status screen. If there are still problems, please don't hesitate to report them. Thanks, - [[User:Kogoro|<span style="color:#DA70D6;">'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>'''</span>]] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|<span style="color:#FFB6C1;">'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>'''</span>]] - 12:27, 9 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::That's much easier to see anyways than using text. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 20:51, 9 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Pokérus and EVs==<br />
I know this doesn't have much to do with Pokerus really but more so the larger subject of EVs in general. But i have some questions related to ensuring that your pokemon gain as many EVs as they can in as few levels as they can.<br />
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1. Seeing as a traded pokemon gains Exp at an accelerated rate does it also gain EVs at an accelerated rate?<br />
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2. Is the surest way to gain the maximum of EVs per level and thusly gain the highest stat boosts available to battle a huge amount of low leveled pokemon that give you as low an amount of experience possible? Can you max out EVs aquired in this manner or do the amount of EVs and the amount of exp directly coorespond? Maybe making a guide on how to ensure that your pokemon gain as manyb EV's in as few levels as possible would be a great contribution to bulbapedia, I would try but am brand new to this and really am still getting to know how the site works, thanks<br />
-Drake<br />
:Seeing as you are a new contributor, you probably won't know this, but it is better to ask these questions on the [bmgf.bulbagarden.net forums] instead of a talk page. Additionally, please sign your comments with 4 tildes (~) and put new comments at the bottom of the page. Anyways, here are the answers for your questions<br />
:1. No, as EVs aren't directly tied to experience. It is more tied to the Pokémon fainted<br />
:2. I'm not sure, but I think that is the way to EV train and maximize stats.<br />
:I'm pretty sure these can be seen on the [[Effort Values|EV]] page, however. [[User:Turtwig A|<font color="#CD7F32">Turtwig's</font>]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|<font color="#FF7F00">A-B-Cs</font>]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|<font color="#green">talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|<font color="#yellow">contribs</font>]]) 01:01, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
Thanks and sorry for messing the page up. I'll erase my stuff {{unsigned|Drake}}<br />
:Actually, we'd prefer it if it stayed here&mdash;policy is to keep everything except the ridiculous. Sorry for the inconvenience. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 02:33, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokemon with Pokerus ==<br />
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On my Pokemon Platinum game, I just traded with myself (with my Pokemon Diamond game) and before I traded, Dialga (and yes this is who we're talkin' 'bout) didn't have Pokerus but when I traded it in to Pokemon Platinum, I put it straight into my PC still with no Pokerus and then the next day I went on my Pokemon Platinum, there was a smiley face on Dialga and a Smiley face in Generation IV means that there was Pokerus on that Pokemon. Is that even Possible?--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|Lilkaykaygal]] 07:49, 17 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Well, I have heard of similar happenings, it could be a glitch. Or there might be a small chance of it spreading in the PC. If someone could read the game's coding and find out, that would be useful. Or it was just a once-in-a-lifetime thing. But still, that is interesting. Do u use action replay, cause it could be some strange occasional side effect. ----[[User:Desukaan563|<span style="color:blue">Desukaan563's userpage has a Value Formula to measure Pokémon worth</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Desukaan563|<span style="color:yellow">talk</span>]])''</small> 12:19, 27 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Pokérus doesn't spread in the PC, Desu, so there isn't a chance of that. And an AR wouldn't screw that up either, because this is game-to-game stuff. I'll dig around for an answer on the forums. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 16:24, 27 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::No, I don't use Action Replay or anything. I hate how people cheat in games. I just go by gameplay. Everything was absolutely normal.--<small>[[User:Lilkaykaygal|<span style="color:pink ">KayKay</span>]]</small>|<small>[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|<span style="color:purple">Chat to me!</span>]]</small> 11:41, 2 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Chances of Encountering Pokérus? ==<br />
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In Generation III onwards, does Pokérus still have a 3 in 65,536 chance of being encountered on a wild/bred pokémon like in Generation II? The article states that it became easier in later generations to get Pokérus because of certain event pokémon and the GTS, but doesn't make it clear if the chance of the virus being generated was improved since its introduction. And if it has been changed, does anyone know what the rate is now? [[User:Wannabe|Wannabe]] 17:14, 3 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== The internal battery has run dry... ==<br />
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Up till recently I have been exclusively a generation one Pokémon player (Red Version more specifically); but recently I was given gold, silver, crystal, and ruby versions of the game. I had begun playing one of the generation two games, played it for about an hour; saved the game and turned it off. When I returned to the game a while later I discovered the disappointing fact that the save battery was not functioning. Further investigation revealed that the other generation two games had the same problem, making me unable to return to a saved game. The Ruby version is somewhat of a different story, its internal battery as well has run dry; disabling clock based events though allowing it still to be saved. I have the capacity, through use of a game shark, to trade Pokérus infected Pokémon from the generation two games to Ruby version. Since clock based events are functionless, and immunization seems to be a clock based event, will Pokérus remain indefinitely? Will I still be able to infect other Pokémon? <br />
The advice of anyone having experience in this area would be much appreciated. {{unsigned|Bug Maniac}}<br />
:You would still be able to infect other Pokémon, as that is not time based. I would think that Pokérus would not expire in a game without time-based events. However, you can just put infected Pokémon in your PC and they will never expire (as long as they are in the PC). The reason your Gen II games don't save while your Gen III games do is because Gen II saves differently to Gen III. Also, chances are that your Ruby's battery is fine, but you are affected by the [[Berry glitch]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 03:53, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokérus and Healing ==<br />
I've heard the chances of getting the Pokérus go up if you don't heal at a Pokemon Center. Is this true? Also, would healing at one of the rest houses (such as the hiker between Mt. Coronet and Snowpoint City) count as healing at a Pokémon center? Seevea of The Blackened Halls 23:36, 24 February 2011 (UTC) (this is Seevea if the signature thing doesn't work again ><){{unsigned|Seevea}}<br />
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==Base stats==<br />
Does a Pokémon ''have'' to have Pokérus to in order max out base stats? [[User:RedYoshi|RedYoshi]] 19:08, 18 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:No, that could be done with EV training. Pokérus makes it quicker. --[[User:YoshisWorld|<span style="color:#66FF00">'''☆Yoshis'''</span>]][[User talk:YoshisWorld|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''World☆'''</span>]] 19:44, 18 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==2 questions==<br />
1, if you turn back the DS clock, will a cured Pokemon have Pokerus again?<br />
2, is it definite that a Pokemon next to the Poke with Pokerus will get Pokerus after a battle? [[User:Juzey|<span style="color:purple">Juzey</span>]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|<span style="color:purple">!!</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Juzey|<span style="color:orange">Talk</span>]])''</small> 07:16, 21 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:1.No 2.No, it is random.[[User:Jazama|Jazama]] 00:42, 22 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Just a reminder to other users: please check previous comments to avoid this page getting cluttered with redundant comments. Talk pages should not be full of the same comment or question. [[User:Superbreeder|Super]][[User talk:Superbreeder|breeder]] 00:14, 8 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Contracting Pokérus ==<br />
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Is Pokérus only contracted after a battle if the player uses a physical type move on the enemy with Pokérus?<br />
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== Never fades ==<br />
Since I got a Kyogre in trade it has had Pokerus.I traded it to black and it still has it.It's been at least a year since then and it still has it.Is there an explanation for this? [[User:TheThing12|TheThing12]] 23:04, 19 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
: Have you been playing it often or keeping it in a Storage Box? If you haven't played it very often I could probably see why it still has it. If it's been in a Storage Box for awhile it keeps it the whole time since when in a Storage Box is pretty much keeps it permanently until you take it out and use it in your Party for a few days. Afterward it can't get it again. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 23:10, 19 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
Actually I use it all the time which is the strange part [[User:TheThing12|TheThing12]] 02:11, 20 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
::Are you sure that it still has Pokérus, and not just the after-effects? The double-EVs thing doesn't go away once the Pokemon is cured. Alternatively, has it ever been out of the PC at midnight? If not, that's why it hasn't gone away. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 02:59, 20 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
Yes turned on my game just now and it still has it [[User:TheThing12|TheThing12]] 05:38, 20 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Do I smell a glitch? :--[[User:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:red">SuperAipom7</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:blue">Need me?</span>]])''</small> 05:39, 20 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
Yah that's a possibility [[User:TheThing12|TheThing12]] 00:26, 25 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah the same thing is happening in my White 2. My Gyarados has been in my party for over a week and it still has the Pokerus symbol (not cured symbol) [[User:Adamws|Adamws]] 20:56, 21 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Odds of Spreading Pokerus in a Party ==<br />
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I have been spreading pokerus in my Pokemon and writing down the results. from 20 cases (i know there are not a lot) i got a 27%, (25% or 30% rounding up) of spreading pokerus to the Pokemon to the right on the party from the infected Pokemon. And it doesn't matter if it is not the first Pokemon any infected Pokemon in the party will pass the infection to the Pokemon next to him at the same time. If i am posting something already know sorry. (I'm using Pokemon White.) Update: after a total of 30 cases the average odds are a 0.26 chance per case. 26% chance of infecting continuous Pokemon.<br />
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== Hmm==<br />
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I traded a Manectric from the GTS, and realized that it had Pokérus. A little later, I realized that my Volcarona (caught it, then in PC) had Pokérus. I'm wondering whether somehow Manectric spread it, or Volcarona battled a Pokémon and caught it separately. Which one would it probably be? -- [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 04:09, 15 July 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Odd happening on Crystal ==<br />
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I managed something extraordinary; creating a glitched Mew on Crystal (Obtained from Blue by the Mew Glitch) after putting it in a box with a glitch pokemon (I guess this part because can't see the pokemon), then putted it into my party (it's level somehow has been set to 0, while it's name appears to be "?GREEN?GREEN?GREEN??GREEN?GREEN?GREENXDROCKKT". It freezes when checking it's stats, but somehow you can see it's moves) and gave my Mew to the day-care lady. Somehow, the day-care lady says this "Are we geniuses or what? Want to see your ?GREEN?GREEN?Y*japanesesigns*? Green?Green???Green???????E?x.??????????GR has grown a lot. By level, it's grown by 100 (only the middle of the textblock, the rest is just filled with "GREEN" and "???"). If you want your Pokémon back, it will cost $100. (Yes, seriously just only $100, like if it had negative exp as some glitch in Generation I). Oddly, when I got my Mew back, it switched to a Primeape (which I had 5th in party while Mew was 6th) with Pokérus.<br />
My explanation for this is because of that glitched Pokemon (I have to confirm that I probably cloned some unowns for whatever reason as that box seems to be glitched) and because saving a lot of times while restarting the game several times (maybe it couldn't read Mew's level once?), but I have no explanation why it has changed to a Primeape (which also somehow seems to have different attacks as my original Primeape).<br />
The explanation for the Pokérus is that the glitched Pokemon had it (I doubt my Mew suddenly appears to have it as I'm sure I would have noticed that) or the bellsprout which I've tended to use to be able to get into that box again (as catching a wild pokemon which will be send into the box seems to "fix" the problem of crashing. Somehow the boxes still have an very odd amount value (57/20), while bellsprout suddenly is lvl 57 while I catched it near Violet City).<br />
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I'm not sure if I could do the same trick over again, but I'll try.<br />
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And I've done the same trick also with Bellsprout, which appeared to have Pokérus also (so I can't tell if it this is just 1 of a million luck that I caught a wild pokemon with Pokérus or actually because of the glitched Pokémon).<br />
I also brought it to the Pokémon Center to heal, which seemed to fix the problem that I wasn't able to see it's stats and had another odd side-effect, the sprite of the trainer actually is being used while battling wild Pokémon (like if your fighting them yourself). For some side information, healing at a Pokémon Center won't cure you from Pokérus.<br />
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After receiving some experience to Bellsprout, it seems it was at lvl 0 also (not lvl 57 which it actually states), as it levels up to 1.<br />
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For some screenshot of this event, here they are (too bad I wasn't thinking about making screenshots before putting my Mew to the day-care lady). Sorry for the poor quality of the images, couldn't make any better. I know they are very large, as I don't know how to resize them on here (or just put a link only).<br />
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:If it's using the trainer sprite in battle, that likely means you have some variety of [[?????]]. If you move it to the second slot in the overworld and then switch it in during battle, it'll use the back sprite or whichever Pokemon was out before it. I can't explain much else about your story except I think GREEN was a leftover default name in the programming from Gen I. --[[User:GARY-DOS|GARY-DOS]] ([[User talk:GARY-DOS|talk]]) 22:44, 12 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Disappeared without a trace? ==<br />
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I got the virus yesterday on my Crystal game and spread it to my team (and a Seaking that I only have for pokedex reasons, so I can keep it around a while)and today when I turned on the game, all my Pokemon seem to have no trace of the virus whatsoever. I read on the main thing that in gen 2 you see a black dot near the HP meter but I don't see a single pixel out of place. Also, since I play my game through Stadium 2, when I first turned on my N64 today I went to the lab and they still had the flashing red dot in their summaries, but when I went and loaded up my gameboy game and checked their statuses there's no sign they ever had it. [[User:Blahness15|Blahness15]] ([[User talk:Blahness15|talk]]) 22:06, 3 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Spreading Pokerus ==<br />
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Does the infected 'mon need to participate in a battle in order to spread it to the rest of your party? [[User:Whitsoxrule|Whitsoxrule]] ([[User talk:Whitsoxrule|talk]]) 02:48, 19 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:I don't think so. In my SoulSilver version, I traded an infected Beautifly from Platinum and spread it to my entire team without making it battle once. [[User:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''AGG''</span>]][[User talk:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''RON''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Aggron989|<span style="color:#444444;">''989''</span>]] 11:51, 20 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
::No, it doesn't need to participate in battle. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 14:19, 20 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Telling if Pokemon has Pokerus? ==<br />
I'm seeing different things looking online. Some things I'm finding say that in Gen II Pokemon games, there's no way to tell if a Pokemon in the wild has Pokerus. Other things I'm finding say that it's got a little icon on it, which is why some trainers who might not know what Pokerus is might run from an infected wild Pokemon. Which of these is true? [[User:EllieNeo|EllieNeo]] ([[User talk:EllieNeo|talk]]) 03:52, 28 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I'm pretty sure, that like every other generation with Pokerus, you can't tell if a Pokemon has Pokerus until you catch it. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 04:41, 28 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
::So... do you have to catch a Pokemon with Pokerus to get Pokerus, or just fight it? [[User:EllieNeo|EllieNeo]] ([[User talk:EllieNeo|talk]]) 05:02, 28 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::In Gen IV, you only have to battle it (speaking from experience). I've only ever found Pokérus myself in SS, so I don't know about other games. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 05:50, 28 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Does anyone know the answer for this for Gen II? [[User:EllieNeo|EllieNeo]] ([[User talk:EllieNeo|talk]]) 01:52, 3 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::Years ago I got Pokérus in Gold from battling (not catching) a wild Tangela outside of Mt. Silver. I knew it was something special at the time but not how it worked, so I saved and turned off the game but neglected to box my affected Persian and it cured overnight without spreading to any other party members, whoops. [[User:RacieB|RacieB]] ([[User talk:RacieB|talk]]) 02:13, 26 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::I had the same happen in Crystal a few months ago. It was late and I wasn't paying close attention to the game at the time. I went to a Pokecenter to heal my Pokemon and was looking away and just mashing 'A' waiting for the dialog to finish when I looked down and saw some weird info before the thank you message. I looked at my party and saw my Zubat had Pokerus but I wanted to know what Nurse Joy had said. I talked to her again and it was the normal spiel. Not realizing I had only just contracted it following my previous save, I made the hair-brained decision to do a soft reset and lost it. :( --[[User:GARY-DOS|GARY-DOS]] ([[User talk:GARY-DOS|talk]]) 03:25, 13 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Preserving the Virus for Future Spreading? ==<br />
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My understanding is that as long as the infected pokemon is trasferred to a PC box before the game's timer hits midnight, it will keep the virus indefinitely and can continue to be withdrawn to spread to other pokemon as much as one likes and will never be 'cured' if it is returned to the PC before midnight strikes. Is this assumption correct, or does the day counter go down for every day the pokemon is out of the PC? And if so, Is each pokemon that I infect given it's own random day counter or does it take the one from the pokemon that the infection originated from? I apologize if this has been answered before, but I'm having trouble finding specific details on preserving the 'rus. Any additional info greatly appreciated. <br />
-[[User:Gunslick|Gunslick]] ([[User talk:Gunslick|talk]]) 19:09, 29 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Different stages in Gen VI ==<br />
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I've been spreading the 'rus to a lot of my Pokémon, but I'm really confused about one thing. The ones who have battled the most with it have a little smiley face (pink, of course) next to the pentagon on the summary, while the ones who haven't been out that much just have the pink bar saying "Pokérus" by the type. Is there much of a difference?-- [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 04:27, 26 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I would suspect it simply means they've [[Pokérus#After having the virus|gotten over it]] (so to speak) like in previous generations. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:36, 26 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, this difference is explained in the article. If a Pokémon has the Pokérus for long enough, it stops being contagious but it still reaps the benefits of it; this is signified by a little smiley face. Whenever you have a Pokémon with contagious Pokérus in your party at midnight, the game takes one day off its duration, and if you have 0 days left it turns into that smiley face. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 04:40, 26 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Something isn't adding up ==<br />
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Ok, so I am trying to HP EV Train my Rash Natured, Pokérus infected Piplup who is holding the Power Weight. I am in connection cave battling horde after horde of Whismur. I am not sure if I am misunderstanding how the calculations and what not are suppose to go...but it seems that nothing is doubling/stacking at all.<br />
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When it was level 1, it had a HP of 12, Atk 6, Def 6, Sp Atk 6, Sp Def 5 and Speed 5. After one battle it leveled up to level 7 where it's new HP was 27, its Atk 13, Def 14, Sp Atk 15, Sp Def 12 and Speed 10. Then the next battle it leveled up to level 9 and its HP was 33, Atk 15, Def 17, Sp Atk 18, Sp Def 14 and Speed 12. Then it leveled up to lv 10 and its HP raised by 4 to 37, its Atk to 16, Def 18, Sp Atk 19, Sp Def 15 and Speed 13. Maybe I don't need to list the other stats so I will just list the HP stat from here. At Lv 11 its HP was 41, 12 = 45 and currently at Lv. 13 its HP is 49.<br />
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From my understanding, its suspose to gain 5 HP Evs from all 5 defeated Whismur, doubled by the Pokérus and then 4 more added on thanks to the Power Weight. The math isn't adding up, from what it looks like, only the Power Weight is doing anything...so is it possible that as of Gen VI Pokérus and all that other stuff no longer stacks? If so then the article needs to state this as well as the EV item article and all the other articles effected. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 18:11, 20 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:No, it definitely all still stacks (I've done EV-training that way plenty of times). If you defeat 5 hordes, then do Super Training to fill in the last 2 EVs, you'll find you're at 252 EVs (I usually check by trying to use a training bag on them). I think you're just not seeing the EVs show up in your stats as early as you expect to. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 18:15, 20 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Eggs inheriting Pokérus + Other Possibilities of Infection ==<br />
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So let me get this straight... If 2 non-infected parent Pokémon (who have never been infected with Pokérus at all) breed, there's a random chance that the resultant egg/baby could emerge/hatch ''already infected with'' Pokérus '''out of the blue'''? (and I think the distinction between whether an Egg can randomly get Pokérus when you first receive it and whether a non-infected Egg can randomly hatch into a baby with Pokérus is a bit notable) <br />
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Also, I've occasionally been breeding Pokérus-infected Pokémon in ''Pokémon Emerald Version'' (either one parent is infected or both of the parents are), and I haven't observed any Pokérus-infected Eggs that were received ''directly'' from the Day-Care Man, nor have I observed a non-infected Egg hatch into a baby infected with Pokérus. I would think that if one or both of the parents is already infected, there would be a much higher chance for an Egg to pop out that is already infected with Pokérus...? (unless that "chance" is similar to the chance that a non-infected party Pokémon can contract Pokérus from an infected party Pokémon adjacent next to it - meaning that just like you may have to battle multiple times until a given Pokémon gets infected from an infected teammate, it may also take multiple tries until infected parents produce an infected Egg?) In any case, I think some of these anomalies may need more testing..<br />
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On a side-note, I'm wondering if:<br />
* non-infected party Pokémon can get infected from infected party Pokémon during link battles or within battling facilities such as the Battle Tower<br />
* whether wild Pokémon in the Battle Pike and Battle Pyramid can pass on Pokérus to the player's party Pokémon<br />
* you mix records (in Generation 3) with someone whose non-Battle Tower team (for use as a Secret Base opponent) and Battle Tower team (for use as a ''Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald'' Battle Tower opponent and/or an ''Emerald'' Battle Tower's Battle Salon partner) are infected with Pokérus, are his/her transferred teams infected with Pokérus? If so, are the transferred teams capable of passing on Pokérus to the player's party Pokémon during a Secret Base battle or a Battle Tower match?<br />
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And these also may require some rigorous testing.... >.< [[User:Fenyx4|Fenyx4]] ([[User talk:Fenyx4|talk]]) 20:17, 23 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Possible Inadvertent Loss of Pokérus When Saving Inside a Pokémon Center ==<br />
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To clarify, I added this sentence:<br />
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''In Generation III, if the player deposits an infected Pokémon inside a PC, saves inside a Pokémon Center prior to midnight, shuts off the game, resumes the game after midnight, withdraws the infected Pokémon from the PC, and exits the Pokémon Center, it is possible for the infected Pokémon to be cured of Pokérus upon stepping outside of the building.'' <br />
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I feel that it should be added to the page, as it could catch someone unawares who thinks that the Pokérus is retained merely by depositing a Pokémon in a PC overnight. My own assumption is that when you save inside a Pokémon Center, turn off the game and let midnight pass, and subsequently resume the game after midnight, the game performs some type of "Has midnight passed yet?" check on any Pokémon you withdraw from the PC the moment you ''exit'' the building, so an infected Pokérus could mistakenly be cured just by you walking through the door. I think I tested this phenomenon with other buildings in ''Pokémon Emerald Version'' (like the Battle Pike of Hoenn), and I think it mainly happens only when the player saves in Pokémon Centers, but I can try to double-check later with other buildings. I wasn't sure whether to classify this as a glitch or something else (as it seems like the game is just doing its job), but I think it something that can affect people who aren't paying attention and happen to save after this thing occurs (Luckily, I caught this occurrence ''before'' saving. -.-"). I only know that it happens in ''Emerald'', and I don't have a ''Ruby/Sapphire'' with a working internal clock to test this with, but it seems plausible that the same check happens in those games. Hopefully, other people can test this quirk in Generations 2, 4, 5, and 6? [[User:Fenyx4|Fenyx4]] ([[User talk:Fenyx4|talk]]) 20:50, 23 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Effect in FireRed & LeafGreen ==<br />
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So, Pokemon in the Gen I remakes can't transfer the infection or be cured of it, but do they still gain double EVs from a battle in these games? Meaning in-game fights, not link cable ones. --[[User:GARY-DOS|GARY-DOS]] ([[User talk:GARY-DOS|talk]]) 03:40, 13 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== System Clock and Pokerus? ==<br />
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If I change my system clock to be after midnight, is there a chance my Pokemon will be cured of Pokerus, or does the time have to happen naturally? [[User:Kozunai|Kozunai]] ([[User talk:Kozunai|talk]]) 20:39, 13 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Apparently, GYM LEADERS can give you pokerus??? ==<br />
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So, I was playing Black 2, and went and healed at the pokemon center before battling Cheren--no pokerus. I battle Cheren. I go back to the pokemon center to heal again, after...and am promptly informed that I have pokerus?? Weirder still, I go into my party and check and the infected pokemon was one that I didn't use in the battle--Jeanne never left her pokeball--which I hadn't realized could happen (I was given to understand that your pokemon could catch pokerus from a wild pokemon if you made contact with it). <br />
Has anyone else gotten pokerus from a trainer before? {{unsigned|Harumei}}<br />
:Have you caught Jeanne or used her in a wild battle in between the two Pokémon center visits? Last I've heard, it's impossible to contract Pokérus from Trainer battles of any kind, unless if there's an already infected member in your team, who can spread it to those in adjacent positions in the party after that battle. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 19:18, 12 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
::No, I hadn't; that was my point, that I beat the gym trainers, went to the pokemon center, healed--no pokerus--then went directly back to the gym to challenge Cheren; I battled Cheren and then returned to the pokemon center, without at ANY POINT between visits having battled any one or thing else, and was informed that hey, I had pokerus! I didn't think that was possible either, but it definitely happened![[User:Harumei|Harumei]] ([[User talk:Harumei|talk]]) 22:06, 12 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
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I can more or less confirm this. In my White 2 game, for a while now, I've been doing absolutely nothing except battling on the Royal Unova. The last time I went into the Pokemon Center for a heal, everything was fine, but today when I went in again, Mr. Medal presented me with the medal for finding Pokerus.<br />
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I don't know the mechanics of Pokerus generation in past games - the beginning of the In the games section currently says it can appear on wild or bred Pokemon - but it looks like [[Pokérus#In Generation V|in Gen V]] the game just decides whether a Pokemon in your party will become infected. You could think of it like, there's a chance that someone you're battling has the virus and that it spreads to your party. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:29, 12 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Friend Safari Higher Chance? ==<br />
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Ok, so I was in the Friend Safari just a moment ago catching Eevee. I caught 4, 2 went into my party, 2 into the box. I had no Pokémon with the condition active in my party. I went to withdraw the ones in the box to have their IVs Judged and see if their natures are the one I need, and both of the Eevee that went to the box had Pokérus.<br />
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I'm not sure if this helps, but the Pokémon I used was a Escavalier with the Swarm ability.<br />
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Is it possible that there is a higher chance of catching Pokémon with Pokérus in the friend safari, am I just lucky and got struck by lightning twice (which from my understanding are the odds of running into a Pokérus infected Pokémon) or did the Swarm ability have something to do with it? <br />
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I am trying not to speculate or anything. I'm not sure if I can recreate the conditions again, I doubt I will ever catch another wild Pokémon in or out of the Friend Safari with the Pokérus condition.<br />
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On a side note, should I experiment to see which strain the two Eevee have. Since they were caught wild with it, sent right to the box, they should have different strains of the virus right? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 20:23, 16 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:heh crap, false alarm. I did have a Pokémon with the condition and mixed them up with the ones I withdrew from the PC. Sorry about that. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 20:28, 16 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Strain X=0 Pokérus? ==<br />
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I've brought this up on the forums previously when editing here was restricted, but there wasn't much of a response there, so I’ll bring it up here. When I was training a Joltik, I realised that it had lost its Pokerus without leaving a smiley face, twice. I did a test and I infected 3 Pokemon using my Crawdaunt (which was the Pokemon I'd used to infect Joltik both times previously). After midnight, all the Pokemon lost their Pokerus without leaving a smiley face.<br />
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Not sure if anyone has experienced this as well, and I’ll be happy to trade a Pokemon infected with the strain of Pokerus if you want to check the claim (assuming the strain stays the same with trading). Is strain X=0 Pokerus possible in X/Y? Or is it a glitch? (Just a note, this was on v 1.2 and hopefully it's the same for v 1.3) :) --[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:#ED9121">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#LL0000;">'''(Talk)'''</sub>]] 04:44, 4 December 2014 (UTC)<br />
:How did you get the Pokérus in the first place? It's possible someone hacked it in a previous game and just sent the Pokémon through Transporter (it might even be possible to hack into Gen VI, but I'm not sure). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 04:54, 4 December 2014 (UTC)<br />
::I have no idea at all! My thought was that it was from Wondertrade since I recall obtaining a few infected Pokemon through that, but besides it's definitely not the one I sent through Transporter, and I don't recall obtaining Pokerus through normal trades besides Wondertrade. It could be from wild Pokemon, but I think Wondertrade is more probable, which I guess could mean that it's hacked. :P--[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:#ED9121">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#LL0000;">'''(Talk)'''</sub>]] 05:13, 4 December 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Odd Pokerus ==<br />
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I got a legit Xerneas with Pokerus on the GTS for Omega Ruby, so I infected it with my party Pokemon. However, after more than 4 days, my Pokemon in my party still have Pokerus. I think it's because I used two different Nintendos wit different times, the Pokerus just reseted and I need to wait more days. I'm not sure why the virus isn't gone yet, so if you have an answer, please help. But I was just wondering if this was good info to add.[[User:Leafeon6954|Leafeon6954]] ([[User talk:Leafeon6954|talk]]) 04:54, 19 December 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Strain X=0 Pokérus? ==<br />
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I just want to bounce off this topic cause it's related. I'm not understanding why X=0 is any different from X=4, X=8, or X=12 as per the table under the technical information for strains. Does X do anything besides determine what the default value of Y is? [[User:Exaskryz|Exaskryz]] ([[User talk:Exaskryz|talk]]) 04:48, 23 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
:As the page says: "''If both '''X''' and '''Y''' are 0, then the Pokémon has never been affected by Pokérus.''"<br />
:(Also, if you have a new question, please start a new section, even if another is vaguely related to your topic&mdash;and ''definitely'' if the other is [[Bulbapedia:Talk page policy#Talk page etiquette|more than six months old]].) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:41, 23 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Managed to get Pokérus after the second gym, wow ==<br />
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Literally don't even know how it happened. Was playing HeartGold and after the second gym I go to heal and get the notification. I had the traded Onix so maybe that was why? Still it was pretty surprising and I was shocked I even got it considering its rarity.<br />
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== Pokérus from the Virtual Console ==<br />
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I can confirm that a Pokémon that's been infected with Pokérus on the Virtual Console versions of the Gen II games do not carry the condition when moved via Poké transporter to Sun and Moon. [[User:PDL|PDL]] ([[User talk:PDL|talk]]) 04:50, 22 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Glitch in Colosseum - Pokérus doesn't work? ==<br />
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I recently went to EV-train a Raikou in Colosseum. I had it infected with Pokérus and hold a Macho Brace, and I successfully battled against the necessary Pokémon in Colosseum based on these factors. Upon doing so, however, the Raikou's stats were grossly lower than what they were supposed to be, and in fact relfected having far less EVs than it was supposed to have. This incident seems to indicate that Pokérus (at minimum while holding a Macho Brace) does not work in Colosseum?<br />
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[[User:ScottOshawott|ScottOshawott]] ([[User talk:ScottOshawott|talk]]) 21:45, 22 July 2019 (UTC)</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tiddlywinks/Archive_4&diff=2913062User talk:Tiddlywinks/Archive 42019-01-15T05:33:05Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* Battle Mode (Colosseum) Page */</p>
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<div>;Archived talk<br />
* [[User talk:Tiddlywinks/Archive 1]] (through Sept 14, 2014)<br />
* [[User talk:Tiddlywinks/Archive 2]] (through Nov 5, 2015)<br />
* [[User talk:Tiddlywinks/Archive 3]] (through Feb 22, 2017)<br />
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== Radiant Sun/Full Moon ==<br />
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Why do we have the Radiant Sun and Full Moon forms on Solgaleo/Lunala's pages and the form differences page? When I added Reshiram's and Zekrom's active forms to their pages it was removed because they aren't counted in the Pokédex like Xerneas's neutral mode, but yet Radiant Sun and Full Moon forms are also not counted in the Pokédex, yet are on their pages. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 15:06, 24 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:In Solgaleo/Lunala's case, [http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pokemon/ the official site] called them forms. (Whether that should be OK may be arguable.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:05, 24 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Ah, that makes sense. Thanks. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 16:12, 24 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::Adding on, there are some Pokémon who have form differences recognized by the Pokédex but yet don't have their forms in the box at the top of the page (eg Furfrou). Should they be added? --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 14:28, 6 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Rotom is basically the high end of what we're willing to accomodate in the infobox. If there is a ''strongly'' compelling reason in the future, we might consider more, but something like Furfrou is simply impractical and relatively trivial&mdash;little benefit to worry about including it. It's fine with a gallery. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:39, 6 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Your help ==<br />
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..was unexpected in both "I didn't expect you to help" and "Why exactly did you do [[Special:Diff/2604502|that]]" kind of way. So, thanks for the former, but for the latter, was that more an "oh my Nesci now just get over that class=expandable thing its bad nobody wants that", or rather an "i still have javascript disabled so i must've cleaned up and nothing more ♪♫♪♫"? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 10:25, 26 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:It took me a bit to parse your actual question here...but yes, I don't enable Javascript if I don't need it, and all I saw was apparently pointless HTML tags in the diff. I might've said about as much except I try not to sound too much like an ass (because sometimes people just don't know), so instead of writing something like, "That's weird yo", I just simplified the reason very, very basically.<br />
:That said, the first table is '''super''' short, collapsing it seems a bit pointless. In fact, actually reading that one, IMO it'd be better to just make those nested bullet points instead of a whole table (like [[Experience#Gain formula]]); or just nest the technical note about Gen I-II specifically. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:56, 26 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Um, sorry for being cryptic, I thought you'd remember we already talked about that. Yo.<br />
::Thanks for the nested bullet points idea, sounds good, I'll try to see how that might work out. But for the ''other'' table, you accidently removed the expandable part (more or less), there wasn't a hidden anti-javascript agenda or something, right? (I know that HTML tags look weird&mdash;it's a workaround because for some reason, using * will always push everything down to the next line; so I'd prefer to restore that.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:04, 26 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::Hiding the ''entire'' table isn't generally the smart thing in any case. If you're going to collapse a table, you can generally just do it right on the table in question. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:23, 26 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Z-Moves ==<br />
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I made a template at [[User:Celadonkey/Template:Z-Moves]] to assist with accessibility for Z-Move pages, similar to the "Variations of _" on a lot of move pages. I was wondering if it's ok for me to mainspace it and put it on all the Z-Move pages. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 18:05, 26 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Lemme just ask, do you care if I (fairly) radically change the style and then mainspace it? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:30, 2 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::No, I don't mind. Go ahead! --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 01:38, 3 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::It looks awesome, thanks man. But I really think that having an MS for the species Z-Moves would be beneficial. Is there any way we can still implement it? --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 14:55, 3 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::They are pretty. But they make that part relatively big too. I don't think it's so bad since it's all summarized on the [[Z-Move]] page too already. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:59, 3 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==Aether House==<br />
If you don't like my edit, find some other way to deal with '''misleading''' information that could give people the wrong idea of when Porygon could be collect. I am stating this from an intelligent standpoint, not to show any rudeness. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 19:37, 26 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Never mind, did not see that. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 19:51, 26 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==RE:Moving pages==<br />
Can you move the page [[Gracidea (Sinnoh)]] to [[Gracidea Garden]]. After duscussion and waiting a long time, other users agreed and no one opposed the move. See [[Talk:Gracidea (Sinnoh)]] for further details. Or can you contact an Editorial Board member, as said on the [[Bulbapedia:Editorial Board]] page. [[User:Jeangabin666|Jeangabin666]] ([[User talk:Jeangabin666|talk]]) 19:18, 28 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Verity Lakefront ==<br />
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You changed [[Verity Lakefront]]'s text box back to a default text box after I changed it to a route text box. It is stated in the [[list of routes]] on Bulbapedia that the [[Sinnoh]] lakefronts are routes. It even says on the [[lakefront]] page of Bulbapedia that the lakefronts are routes. The three lakefronts are routes, thus deserving a route text box. --[[User:RedHailfire|RedHailfire]] ([[User talk:RedHailfire|talk]]) 22:07, 2 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:"List of routes" is not the criteria for deciding whether a location should have a "route" infobox. I'd be hard pressed to define exactly what those criteria are because there ''are'' a few places that are not numbered routes where we use a route infobox (and I'm OK with those), but if you want me to, I can try to figure out what the specifics are/should be. For now, though, please trust me that the lakefronts are regular locations, not routes. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:24, 2 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::The [[lakefront]] page also states that these areas are [[route]]s. Also, if these lakefronts don't get route infoboxes, then why does [[Spring Path]] get a route infobox? The lakefronts are much more like routes, for most of the lakefronts actually have [[tall grass]]. Spring Path is such an obscure location. --[[User:RedHailfire|RedHailfire]] ([[User talk:RedHailfire|talk]]) 22:33, 2 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::To attempt some loose/theoretical explanations, "Spring '''Path'''" closely suggests something like a route, so it was perhaps easy to just put Route infobox there. A "lakefront" sounds more like a simple location, however.<br />
:::This is not strictly justification, but, again, explanation for the current state of things (i.e., a basic answer to your "why"). The presence or absence of tall grass also doesn't really make or break a route, because plenty of locations (like the lakes themselves) have grass, and some routes don't (e.g., [[Kalos Route 1]]).<br />
:::Sort of like I said above, it may be that we should solidify some criteria for what locations deserve Route infobox and which ones deserve Infobox location.<br />
:::Let me ask (and try to answer this as earnestly as you can): why exactly did you change the template? Was it strictly because there was a '''route''' infobox template, and those pages weren't using it even though that's what you thought they were? Or was it more because you wanted to see the connecting locations like routes show them (and thankfully for you, the lakefronts are identified as "routes" in some places)? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:50, 2 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Another path in [[Sinnoh]], called [[Seabreak Path]], is a path and is considered a [[route]], similar to [[Spring Path]], yet Seakbreak Path doesn't get a route infobox. Seabreak Path is also on the [[list of routes]] here on Bulbapedia. I may fix the infobox later, since Seabreak Path is considered a route and a "path." I adjusted the [[lakefront]] infoboxes purely because the lakefronts are considered routes, and route infoboxes belong to routes. It makes sense to give a route an infobox literally called a "route infobox." I thought it was just common knowledge. --[[User:RedHailfire|RedHailfire]] ([[User talk:RedHailfire|talk]]) 00:55, 3 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::I also wasn't suggesting that '''all''' routes have [[tall grass]], but most of them do. --[[User:RedHailfire|RedHailfire]] ([[User talk:RedHailfire|talk]]) 00:58, 3 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::The contrast of Spring Path and Seabreak Path perhaps gives you your best answer: there probably wasn't any rigorous thought about it all. This is a public wiki. It can be easy for certain "habits" to start small and slowly spread, very possibly via different people, and without perfect rhyme/reason. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:08, 3 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::Do you approve of my change of the [[Seabreak Path]] infobox? --[[User:RedHailfire|RedHailfire]] ([[User talk:RedHailfire|talk]]) 01:22, 3 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I'm basically leaving it all alone at the moment. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:23, 3 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Another template I thought might be useful ==<br />
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I'm not sure if there's a need for it, but I made a template [[User:Celadonkey/Template:Spritebox/MS/1]] for menusprites to be used in the sprites section of a Pokemon. I was thinking there would be another for Gen IV, Gen V, Gen VI, and Gen VII Pokemon. This one would be used for Gen 1-3 Pokemon. Is there any that needs to be changed and would there be a need for it in the mainspace? --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 21:44, 4 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I just realized... Would there be any way to do Gen I and Gen II menu sprites? I know that there are just general sprites like "Ball" and "Quadruped". --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 22:00, 4 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Just so you both know, the old menu sprites and their Pokémon are listed [[User:SnorlaxMonster/Original era menu sprites|here]]. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 22:26, 4 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::This is awesome! I'll try to add this in. {{unsigned|Celadonkey}}<br />
::::All updated! Thanks. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 23:53, 4 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::Maybe.<br />
:::::One problem about the template is that it basically requires changing when there's a new generation, when it's generally been our goal recently to avoid that in templates with such wide use as all Pokemon.<br />
:::::You can keep it around, but it's not something that can be signed off on easily given its wide effect. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:58, 5 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::True, true. Is there any way I can rework this so that it would not have that problem? --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 18:23, 5 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::If you want to try, you're welcome to. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:34, 5 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Alright, but how would I go about doing that? --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 18:59, 5 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::I don't know how much you know about templates, but if you need to, I'd suggest checking out your welcome template links or introductions on Wikipedia or elsewhere. Then, you can try looking at what we do with other templates that are designed to avoid this, like dex, availability, and sprites on Pokemon pages.<br />
:::::::::Beyond that, I don't know how to tell you exactly what to do without just as well doing it myself (which I won't). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:21, 5 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::I had an idea... What if there were templates for each box I already have (for example, a Gen I menu sprite template) and then those templates would be put together on a "master template" of sorts to be used on the Pokémon's page to make the full chart? This way, instead of all of the templates being modified every time a new generation comes, the sub templates would be adjusted appropriately, or if a new gen has completely new menu sprites, a new sub template would be created and added to the master template. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 15:44, 6 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}} Actually, it might be a better idea to build the sub-templates on the Pokémon page itself instead of using a master template, because with a master template, we'd need different master templates depending on the game the Pokémon was introduced in - a different template would be needed for Bulbasaur and Dedenne, if that makes any sense. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 15:56, 6 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Does this count? ==<br />
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I found a way to make Rockruff's Pokédex Entry from the anime Japanese. The translation in also there. does this count? {{unsigned|Hamfart}}<br />
:I don't think we add dex entries until they're dubbed. On that understanding, I don't think it should be added.<br />
:However, I don't really know the anime. You may wish to direct your question to a staff member who's more familiar instead. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:08, 7 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Archives ==<br />
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Am I allowed to move my archive back to my own page? I archived my talk page for no reason and want it back to my regular talk page. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 22:24, 9 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:If your new page hadn't really been touched, that might be an interesting question, but since it has, it's kind of too late to ask. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:28, 9 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Oh, rats. So I can't copy the code from the archive and place it at the top of my talk page? --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 22:42, 9 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::That entirely defeats the purpose of maintaining the history. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:44, 9 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Ah, alright. Thanks anyways. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 22:52, 9 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Weather Trio ==<br />
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The page [[Weather trio]] should be moved to Super-ancient Pokémon, an official term. It's been discussed on the talk page since early 2015, but we haven't gotten any response from the staff, but yet... Ataro has made a page [[Super-ancient Pokémon (Adventures)]]. Can it be moved? --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 13:51, 14 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:It sounds to me like you want to talk to Ataro rather than me. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:31, 15 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::I dunno, I know that the comics are Ataro's thing and this isn't really a comics thing. I may bring it up to SnorlaxMonster, or someone. Thanks for the help. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 02:00, 15 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Gen VII Images ==<br />
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Hey, I was wondering about how to upload images to the [[Bulbagarden Archives|Archives]]. I have a few images for moves from [[Generation VII]], and I am unable to upload them to the Archives. It says I'm not yet a confirmed user. I saw that you are active on the Archives, so I thought that you might know how to upload these images. --[[User:RedHailfire|RedHailfire]] ([[User talk:RedHailfire|talk]]) 03:41, 23 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:The Archives has an {{bp|autoconfirmed}} status similar to Bulbapedia. The long and short of it is, if you look around (which may not be an entirely trivial task, but also isn't impossible), you should be able to find some things you can edit/improve on the Archives to earn that status and be able to make uploads.<br />
:That said, do be aware that, in order to upload images from 3DS games, you [[a:Archives:Messages from the Council#November 9|have to have permission]] first. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:45, 23 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Which page to put name locations on ==<br />
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Hey there! You recently reverted an edit I did to the Gen II base stats structure page, citing that information of default names for Pokémon doesn't fit there (presumably as it's not part of the 32-byte structure). So as not to get in an edit war, I figure we'll hash it out before doing anything. I'd argue it ''does'' fit on the base stats structure page, as it - as all the other properties on the page - is something common to and used for all Pokémon of the species. I'd go as far as to say the page shouldn't be about one single data structure (which the page title doesn't really imply, after all), but rather the how base stats of the Pokémon are stored in general.<br />
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Putting it on the character encoding page, as you suggested, makes no sense at all: the name data has nothing to do with the encoding of the characters at all, and isn't used in any related contexts. Seeing as the name data is used when creating a Pokémon and on summary screens, just like the rest of the base statistics... I'd say that's the best place. Not putting it anywhere isn't an option either, as that'd simply be withholding potentially useful information, which we of course don't want to do. What do you think? [[User:LpSamuelm|LpSamuelm]] ([[User talk:LpSamuelm|talk]]) 23:27, 30 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Like you say: the list of names is very plainly a '''very''' different thing from the list of base stats. You're grasping at reasons to shoehorn that list into the page, when the only truly logical approach is to limit it to a single, readily identifiable structure. Based on what you're saying, we may as well have Gen III's base stats structure and Pokedex data structures on the same page; they're at least based on the same indices, which is ''basically'' equivalent to your argument for the list of names.<br />
:The best thing you could really argue for would perhaps be a ''different'' page altogether, one that could reasonably mention all the data relating to species. That seems like a bit of a weird idea to me, though, so I'm very unsure how such a page would be made, personally.<br />
:Anyway, I don't see the base stats structure page as being an appropriate place for it at all. If you have any better suggestions, I'm all ears. I'm basically okay with just saying it fits nowhere and removing it altogether if you think that's best, too. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:13, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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::Sorry, I don't at all follow your extrapolation here. Not sure where the "like you say" part comes from, either - I'm not "grasping", it's quite logical. Here's an a bit more structured summary of how and why they strongly relate:<br />
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::* The "base stats" for a Pokémon is data that's used in any combination of a few ways. Not all of them have to be true for a point of data to be considered "base stats", as is apparent from their inclusion in the main structure. The ways are:<br />
::** '''Informing choices when constructing a Pokémon''' (wild held item, gender ratio)<br />
::** '''Basic, unchanging values for how the Pokémon acts''' (types, base stats, egg cycles, dimensions of sprite, growth rate, egg groups, TM/HM flags, catch rate, Exp. yield)<br />
::** '''Basic, unchanging values used on the Pokémon's summary screen''' (types, base stats, dimensions of sprite)<br />
::** And yes, even '''used in the species's Pokédex entry''': the sprite dimensions byte.<br />
::* In comparison, the default name of a Pokémon is used in the following ways:<br />
::** '''Informing choices when constructing a Pokémon''' - all wild Pokémon get their names from the list.<br />
::** '''Basic, unchanging value for how the Pokémon acts''' - if the Pokémon's name differs from the species, it is considered nicknamed, which has an effect when the Pokémon was received in a trade.<br />
::** '''Basic, unchanging value displayed on the Pokémon's summary screen''' - the species name is simply displayed under the nickname.<br />
::** In addition, it is just like the sprite dimension byte '''used in the species's Pokédex entry'''.<br />
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::That's 4/4 of the purposes filled.<br />
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::It's not really possible to, as you did, extrapolate my argument to combining the Pokédex data (which I was looking at just earlier today for Gen II; should make a nice new page) page with the base stats structure page, as the Pokédex data has no actual impact on the Pokémon. If you edit the Pokédex data, all Pokémon of that species look and act the same, with no difference even to the summary screen. Of course, as I mentioned, "removing it altogether" is ''not an option'' - skipping out on providing real information, even if it were to prevent meta-level "shoehorning" (which I really do contest), goes against the very purpose of a wiki. [[User:LpSamuelm|LpSamuelm]] ([[User talk:LpSamuelm|talk]]) 01:43, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::You're talking about base stats as a very abstract concept.<br />
:::The page [[Pokémon base stats data structure in Generation II]] is explicitly about a specific structure, about a contiguous set of data (a list) with entries corresponding to different Pokemon.<br />
:::The list of names is a WHOLLY different list. It's not logical to conflate both of those things on a page called "Pokémon base stats data structure". It's TWO structures.<br />
:::[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:52, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::: They're two different contiguous data masses in memory, sure, but they're used in the same contexts. I say "Pokémon base stats data structure" can just as well mean "the structure of Pokémon base stats" (which may well include "the data is structured as part of these two parts of memory") as it can, as you assume, "this specific contiguous structure type in memory". Very logical, all in all.<br />
:::: Really - the page in question is the absolute best fit for information on this, hands-down. I'd say it's a really good fit, but even if you don't agree with ''that'', you'd be hard pressed to find a page where it would fit better. [[User:LpSamuelm|LpSamuelm]] ([[User talk:LpSamuelm|talk]]) 02:03, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::The page isn't about context. It's about a specific data structure. The one on the page. Not the list of names.<br />
:::::...I'll go ahead and ask (even though the answer would seem obvious if you're delving this stuff at all): Do you have any experience with computer programming? Because as someone who does, I can tell you, the page title just is NOT interpretable the way you want it to be. (And those pages are by their very nature incredibly technical, meaning that is the most reasonable way to interpret it.) It's one structure. Not anything kinda with the same feel. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:10, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::Yes, I am a programmer. And I really, really, don't appreciate the condescending tone you're taking. That someone doesn't agree with you does ''not'' mean they don't understand. Frankly, the fact that you choose to ask despite saying "the answer would seem obvious" tells me the entire point of the question is to be condescending, which... well, I'm not going to dignify that with further argument.<br />
::::::Now that that's out of the way: I'm definitely qualified to say that yes, it is interpretable that way. Obviously it is, since I'm interpreting that way. It seems to be subjective, though, since you don't agree - you're taking it as a "data structure" (as what you'd call a struct in C, for example), but seeing as the page is called "Pokémon base stats data structure" and not "'''The''' Pokémon base stats data structure", it may just as well be taken as "the structure of Pokémon base stats data".<br />
::::::You seem to be dodging a certain question a bit: what page makes for a better fit than that one? [[User:LpSamuelm|LpSamuelm]] ([[User talk:LpSamuelm|talk]]) 02:23, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I absolutely don't claim to always be the most politic, but I certainly don't mean to be condescending. Mostly I'm just frustrated by your views when it seems so obvious to me. I'm sorry if that comes off wrong.<br />
:::::::I'm not dodging any question: I ''put'' it where it better belongs. (As you said, you disagree. I guess I didn't see any point in going into that part more; I wanted to focus on what I ''expected'' would be a more fruitful direction...) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:33, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::So, first of all - how come you get to decide where it "better belongs"? Probably because you're a junior admin, huh.<br />
::::::::In any case, I definitely oppose it being on the character encoding page. The character encoding is used for the names, sure, but it's also used for ''everything else'' in the game. If you put info on the species names there, why not put info on all the locations and structure of dialogue? For the Pokédex descriptions? For the list of items, the list of moves, the list of abilities, the list of trainer types? Because the contents of those have nothing to do with the character encoding except being encoded with it, just like the list of species names. [[User:LpSamuelm|LpSamuelm]] ([[User talk:LpSamuelm|talk]]) 07:38, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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{{indent}}Like I said right off the bat...if you want to offer a third solution for where it belongs, I'm all ears. When people have differing opinions, that sort of thing is ''always'' a great option if at all possible. You've spent a lot of bytes trying to "prove" your opinion above when I already suggested to you a third option. By all means, try creating some user page to try to address it. I certainly see the point of your complaint; ''I'm'' not perfectly happy with it either, but it's better than the only other alternative currently. I would be very happy to have a third option. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:13, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::And what I'm trying to do is convince you that no, making a separate page is not reasonable at this time (which you've said yourself). However, it is much more reasonable to have it on the page where I put it than on the character encoding page. Do I simply not have a say in the whole thing? You moved it elsewhere, making my initial placement an impossibility? Is that really how it is? [[User:LpSamuelm|LpSamuelm]] ([[User talk:LpSamuelm|talk]]) 13:34, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::(Sorry to intrude on a talk page, but maybe it's helpful.) I think in an ideal world, we should have main "Data structures in Gen X" pages, with lots of sections that mostly link to the articles we already have, and with another section on the Pokémon names.<br />
:::(Also, if you're interested in a second opinion: I believe if we link to it from the Pokémon structure page (much like we currently do), it should be... fine. Regardless of who is staff and who is not, I believe there are good reasons to not include it on either page, though.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:26, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::It's rather curious, LpSamuelm: you think I'm being (more or less) tyrannical, when you're basically asking the same for yourself. Do *I* have no say against what you want? We're two people. We want exactly different things. There's no "winner" in that equation. There's no reason you're more right than I am except that you're sure you are. The idea that this makes me unreasonable or what-have-you is nonsensical.<br />
::::At any rate, I think we've pretty much reached the point where I ''am'' prepared to turn a little "tyrannical" and explicitly throw in the weight of my authority as a staff member. I've tried persuading you and I would have hoped you could see what was obvious to me; but I'm at a loss for what to do when you cannot see it, short of seeking staff opinion. "Luckily", I don't have to look far. =P This is truly what I think is best for the wiki:<br />
::::* The data structure pages should as a rule only describe one structure. That is how those pages should be; not how you want to interpret them.<br />
::::If you want to make a page that touches on more than one structure, get creative. Don't just say it's impossible. I'm '''certain''' you can make a page even if it looks a bit ridiculous. But you're not going to get anywhere so long as you keep thinking it's impossible and declining to even try.<br />
::::It may be important to note that my word is not ABSOLUTE law. To be sure, I have some authority which should be respected. However, there are also {{bp|staff|many people above me}} who you may appeal to if you ever think I (or someone else) am terribly wrong in anything.<br />
::::FWIW and perhaps obviously, I'd prefer if you just moved forward and either tried to work on a solution like I've suggested you can, or if you would just let it go and be productive in other ways. But I won't pretend there aren't other options. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:15, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokétch app icons ==<br />
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I get what you mean by your reasoning, but the thing is many [[Pokétch]] apps are already represented in the item lists of the locations they are obtained in by icons other than the Pokétch sprite, and have been so for years now. Some of them are icons of the Pokémon featured in their respective apps, so they make sense, but what I want to ask you now is that what do we do with this thing now? Do we replace all the app icons in item lists with the Pokétch icon, leave them how they are now and just try not to come up with any new ones, or something else? What do you think would be the best solution? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:49, 1 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I'm not entirely sure what to think of those placeholders. When I first saw what you added to [[Sunyshore City]] it just looked wrong. After you've pointed out everything else, I look at, say, [[Pal Park]], and it doesn't seem so bad.<br />
:But. There's also a simple enough solution. Just use the app images from the [[Pokétch]] page for the "sprites". Part of me was thinking for a while that that'd be best, if only! And then I realized we totally have those and we can. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:02, 1 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Template edit request ==<br />
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In [[SM004]], the [[Rotom Pokédex]] gives a ton of new entries. Besides the obvious Pokémon entries, I chose to add the descriptions it gave about catching Pokémon and Pokémon Centers as well. The first one already had an entry way back in [[EP001]], so it's already been taken care of. However, the entry for Pokémon Centers still has a red link. Could you edit the Pokédex template to remove the red link? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:03, 13 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:It appears to have been taken care of. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:29, 13 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Yup. {{user|Abcboy}} apparently took care of it before you could. BTW, as I checked out the Pokédex template out of sheer curiosity, I noticed a special entry tag (or whatever it should be called) reading "Togepi's power". I dug into Togepi's article history, and found out that that thing was used for Togepi's second AG entry at some point, but was already taken out in 2010, which was ages ago, but apparently the special note was never removed from the template. Just wondering that shouldn't something unnecessary like that be removed, even if it doesn't technically show up anywhere? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:05, 14 April 2017 (UTC)<br>PS. Is the "Purpose" part in the template the same thing as "Dexter (purpose)", in other words, repetition and thus unnecessary as well?<br />
:::The template is used on a large number of pages, editing it for something that's currently going to make zero difference isn't altogether wise, so for now it's just fine. (Try to always keep your signature last as well.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:25, 14 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Understood. Maybe next time it's really necessary to edit it, that can be done too. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:44, 14 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::Well, that time seems to be now. The newest dub episode has two double entries, and the template needs editing once again. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:32, 13 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::The next time you come upon a case that causes an explicit problem in a template like that, can I ask you to consider ''holding off'' on saving it with that problem? Try asking ''first'', so that you're not imposing a red link or something like that. Especially, there should REALLY be an option in {{template|Animedexbody}} that ''doesn't'' require updating such a heavily used template every time a new random odd case pops up. If we don't fix that soon, please try to keep that in mind and ask us BEFORE you use the template in an "unexpected" way again so that we can implement such a fix, which you can then freely use to use the template without problems.<br />
::::::Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:01, 13 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::So basically your point is, "Tell first, wait, and ''then'' edit". Gotcha. In that case, I'm now telling you ahead that I'm planning to split {{p|Yanma}}'s OS entry into the main entry and a section called "Yanma's attacks". Thanks. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:16, 14 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Thank you. I've updated the template. Where you'd put the 2nd parameter, you can now just put <code><nowiki>None|po={{p|Yanma}}'s attack</nowiki></code> (or whatever for anything else that pops up in the future). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:42, 14 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Thank you too. I've tested it out on Yanma's page, and it seems simple enough. So I was wondering, should ALL exceptions in Pokédex entries (i.e. all entries not about a Pokémon species) be replaced with this feature so that they don't need to be listed on the template itself, or should they just be left the way they are now? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:51, 17 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::You don't need to go out of your way, but if you're doing anything else at the same time and you want to redo it, feel free. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:13, 18 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Deletion ==<br />
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Would anyone know how to delete an account?[[User:Empoleon042806|Empoleon042806]] ([[User talk:Empoleon042806|talk]]) 15:08, 15 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I'm not sure if we can delete your account if that's what you want, but we could probably block it indefinitely if that aligns with whatever reason you want it deleted for. If you're perhaps dissatisfied with the name you chose, it can be changed once. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:19, 15 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Genderless vs. gender unknown ==<br />
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I can't find hide nor hair of the phrase "gender unknown" on any of our pages in regard to what you mentioned. If "gender unknown" is the new canonical term for it, shouldn't we change everything to use the correct term? If not, shouldn't [[cosmic duo]] use the same usage we use on every other page? Either way, we should be consistent with one term or the other, not a haphazard mishmash of whichever people feel like. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:19, 20 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I kind of meant you should talk about it "publicly" on the article's talk page, not come to me individually. I think that'd be more useful.<br />
:(FYI, one thing I didn't have space to write is that I'm not rightly sure what makes genderless canon as you claimed. If you can specify the sources you were thinking of, I'd love to know it. Again, though, I don't mean here.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:40, 20 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
::(The source I was relying on was... the fact that we use the term and don't use a "fan name" template on top of its page. That's all... I'll bring it up on the [[genderless]] talk page, since that disambig seems to be the grandparent of anywhere that might be relevant.) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 02:04, 20 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== FP Increasing FC Costs ==<br />
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Really, you have to delete a important detail. It was part of a incomplete section. One of the reasons was: Needed Costs for all facility levels for introduction by visitors. Please re-add them.<br />
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[[User:Bluebird3639|Bluebird3639]] ([[User talk:Bluebird3639|talk]]) 18:26, 20 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:That information was actually there already. Nobody remembered about the incomplete template to update it, that's all. Nothing's been lost. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:39, 20 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==Ether==<br />
Hey! Sorry, I was meant to put it in the edit summary, but Ether is the Japanese name and she's called Cherie in English. At least to my understanding, disambiguations don't count if it's the Japanese name and therefore there's no clash in terms of the article names. If not, I'm happy to be corrected.--[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:green">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''(토크)'''</sub>]] 07:19, 22 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:If someone's only heard the Japanese name, they could still search for that here, and then if there's no note they'd just be left confused. There may still be ways for them to find it, but that'd be relatively difficult especially if they're not super familiar with us/wikis. I imagine there's other examples of this being done but I wouldn't know where. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:26, 22 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Move infobox and "flags" ==<br />
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Hey there! I believe you're still the flag officer around here? As you know, they're not exactly all perfectly accurate (as in, they're ''annoyingly'' deserted: half of our infoboxes have <code>mirrormove</code> incorrect, for example, but then there are none of the GenV+ "flags" I pasted on the talk of [[User:Tiddlywinks/Template:MoveInfobox|what I remember you were doing]]). I'm currently doing some related work there (which involves compiling lists of incorrect "flags"), and the more I do, the more I think this needs to be reformed rather radically. Before I go ahead, I want to ask: Do you have an opinion/plan on how to handle "flags" in infoboxes? Assuming there isn't something in the works already, could we (not necessarily just the two of us, but Bulbapedia as a whole) discuss (and eventually settle on) how to handle them? I believe this really needs some conceptual work before anything else (and it is about time!), that's why I'm coming to you. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 11:02, 22 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I'm not really grasping what you're getting at. I guess that means no, I don't have any plan or anything. So in short: lay out your ideas. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:17, 22 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Continued [[Template talk:MoveInfobox#Flag reform|here]]. Note that I added some more "flags". [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 14:47, 22 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Pulse/Wave ==<br />
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'''はどう''' is translated as ''Wave'', same as the japanese version of ''Aura'', Lucario's power.--[[User:Martianmister|Martianmister]] ([[User talk:Martianmister|talk]]) 07:37, 2 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Pulse is equivalent. Especially since they were translated in English as "pulse", it's fine to use that in our translations as well, rather than just take the lazy/mechanical route of obeying whatever Japanese-English dictionaries say. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:17, 2 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== About the underlevelled Pokemon page ==<br />
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I saw that the pictures have been removed and I completely understand why they have been removed. But although an odd question but is SpriteIt still active on Bulbapedia? Because his most recent contributions and activity from what I'm aware of dates back to 2016 at latest. I'm asking as I'm not sure if I will be able to contact SpriteIt regarding his page for permission to have the template modified. If you know any way to contact him it would be great if you could tell me how so I can ask about the change in template. Although preferably it would make the page look better with pictures, if not having them is what he wishes than I'm completely fine either way.[[User:Nikuriku|Nikuriku]] ([[User talk:Nikuriku|talk]]) 14:36, 7 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:My removal of the column is entirely about what I think, not SpriteIt. That table is much too busy for a huge picture of the Pokemon's artwork. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:47, 7 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Cheers for the advice from my talk page.<br />
::Fair enough about the table being too busy for a picture of the Pokemon's artwork. <br />
::Also would it be better to remove the "Picture" column since there are multiple methods of obtaining an underlevelled species of a Pokemon along with the fact that it never was really used to begin with? <br />
::Also if the "Picture" column is removed could I bring back the "Artwork" column? This is since the "Picture" column was never really used to begin with while the added "Artwork" column was used so in my opinion it would make sense to replace the picture column with an artwork column.[[User:Nikuriku|Nikuriku]] ([[User talk:Nikuriku|talk]]) 14:57, 7 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't really know how Picture would be used. I think if it gets to where it ''might'' be mainspacable, removing it can be considered, but until then, I'd rather give SpriteIt as much time as possible to respond to the page being edited and give any input (even if it just ends up being "Do whatever").<br />
:::Like you said, the Picture column wasn't really used so even removing it doesn't really change a thing about the rest of the table. The artwork is still relatively huge and everything else relatively busy. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:06, 7 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Hey I know this is old and most likely this will not be approved but this is why I'm asking here first:<br />
::::Would I be able to make my own Underleveled Pokemon page so I would be able to add my own information and change the template? This is so I can modify the page without distorting SpriteIt's original page format. Also from that page I'm only taking the information I have added there(it's still going to be on the original page however). <br />
:::: If I can't make my own page then is there a way I could contact SpriteIt regarding the page? This is so I can discuss about modifying the original page and get his input before doing anything major since I'm not sure if he goes on Bulbapedia still.[[User:Nikuriku|Nikuriku]] ([[User talk:Nikuriku|talk]]) 11:49, 11 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::The userspace exists for a reason, and we welcome users making use of it to try to develop new pages. If you want to move it in a new direction, you're more than welcome to make a page in your userspace to play with it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:29, 11 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::Cheers! I assume I can get the stuff I added from the other page and make a different template?[[User:Nikuriku|Nikuriku]] ([[User talk:Nikuriku|talk]]) 13:31, 11 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I'm a bit confused. But I don't think there's a lot of ways you can go wrong. Just dive in, get to it. If there's any issues, we can all figure it out. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:24, 11 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Accuracy vs. evasion ==<br />
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I had believed you knew this all along, way before I realized it, but now I'm better safe than sorry: As accuracy and evasion stat stages are combined to ''one'' multiplier (Gen III onward), nothing can modify one but not the other. Or, in other words, "boosts its evasion by 25%" is another way to say "decreases accuracy of attacks targeted at it by 4/5". It's shorter and probably more intuitive/natural, but it doesn't allow us to be consistent, nor to link to one of the three consistently (and I understood that you preferred <code><nowiki>{{stat|accuracy}}</nowiki></code>). (It's also a little less precise technically/mathematically, I guess, but I think that really shouldn't matter.) More or less, I believe we (and UPC) are using "accuracy" (or <code><nowiki>{{stat|accuracy}}</nowiki></code>) as the generic term that encompasses both "accuracy"s and evasion. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:20, 8 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I don't like leaving these things implied and ripe for misunderstanding, so I take it you're responding to the edits to {{a|Snow Cloak}}.<br />
:Second: you're talking about stat stages, but Snow Cloak doesn't affect stages, it's just a multiplier. ...Perhaps you understand this, but that's not clear to me, and it did (plainly) confuse me.<br />
:You do have a point that accuracy and evasion reduce to the same, ill-defined "stat" after stat stages are applied. (If we go by [http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/content/pokemon-diamond-version-pearl-version-and-platinum-version-accuracy-check.html UPC for DPPt], all multipliers come only after stat stages are resolved.) I.e., at a technical level, you can't really say whether a multiplier affects accuracy or evasion.<br />
:So I think how we should handle it is that, in any cases where a multiplier nominally "affects" the user of a move, that affects their accuracy (like {{a|Hustle}} or {{a|Compound Eyes}}), while a multiplier that nominally affects a Pokemon that is the target of a move (like {{a|Snow Cloak}} or {{m|Gravity}}) affects evasion. This may be what the descriptions for those Abilities try to follow, but we may have gotten too concerned with the wrong things in some places. (If there are any categories for these sorts of multipliers, the question of what's right for ''them'' becomes interesting. Likewise, the multipliers that are split between accuracy and evasion at [[Statistic#Stat modifiers]] become equally interesting.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:13, 8 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
::I can't tell what your first sentence means, but my post was motivated by [[Special:Diff/2637785|you asking for proof it affects something other than accuracy]] (which could have been either an educational, rhethorical statement; or you being unaware that that's not really possible).<br />
::I believe I understand the difference between stat stages and the rest. What I wanted to make you aware of is: Accuracy and evasion have ''a single, combined table lookup'' (unlike say Atk and Def).<br />
::For things that do affect stat stages ({{m|Double Team}} etc.), we obviously need to refer to that stat whose stages are affected. For everything else, I guess we have some freedom, and I believe we're currently consistently saying "increases/decreases <code><nowiki>{{stat|accuracy}}</nowiki></code> of moves [against it] by factor/percentage" (see {{a|Tangled Feet}}'s edit history).<br />
::Both ways of saying it have their drawbacks (as I said above). I guess it's a matter of philosphy/ideology, and of where we want to link to. I believe either way is okay. It's just that whenever UPC etc. say "multiplies accuracy of attacks against it by 4/5", we're free to reword it to "boosts evasion by 25%" if we desire, because it's really the exact same thing.<br />
::(As a side note: for Gravity and {{weather|fog}}, we can say both "affects accuracy/users" or "affects evasion/targets" even ideologically. Official wording from Gravity's effect apparently is neutral: "Moves are more likely to hit for five turns.") [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 19:06, 9 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::(I can't tell how the stages are really related to anything in particular here... So I'm just going to plow ahead until it becomes clear that I did miss something.)<br />
:::I think "where the multiplier comes from" is an eminently reasonable distinction. If it comes from the target's "condition" (like Tangled Feet), that's their "evasion" that's affected; if it comes from the attacker, it's "accuracy".<br />
:::Gravity and fog are more field-wide effects, but I think we still can and ''should'' consider them '''logically'''. As far as Gravity, it should be pretty clear logically that gravity hampers a target's evasion. Fog should likewise logically affect an attacker's ability to ''aim'' (their accuracy). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:07, 9 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::That's a reasonable philospohy/ideology, in my opinion. (And for anything not called Gravity or fog, in-game descriptions may be unambiguous anyway.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 18:57, 10 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Teleport ==<br />
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Hey, could you maybe elaborate on why [[Special:Diff/2641360|my edit]] apparently didn't adress my concern, or shifted the problem? (I guess you realized: my concern is that it sounds like "wild mon" takes precedence over Mean Look etc.) I've looked at my screen for minutes, but I really can't seem to find it. I'd like to "fix" it, which really... doesn't make sense when I'd be trying to just repeat my earlier edit!? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:34, 16 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I might have actually missed or mistaken the "wild" part at the beginning. It was still densely worded, though. It's kind of annoying, because if this were the effect when the move was intro'd, you'd say "Teleport causes the user to flee. It can fail depending on the user's level and because of trapping moves." without having to worry about, "Wait, you can't say 'always'." Being a change like this makes it hard to do smoothly (because I would have said the original way was basically easiest/fine). But I've tried to communicate the same thing more smoothly all around now. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:59, 16 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks. I really do try to find concise wording, but sometimes I apparently just lack the sensitivity, the ability to realize it is overly worded, so I appreciate any simplification you're able to provide.<br />
::In the meantime, I'll be thinking about starting a petition urging for Game Freak to not do bugs, because it's really annoying for us to represent them. Seems kinda selfish. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:47, 16 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Quotes ==<br />
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I saw Looker having a separate quote page ([[Looker/Quotes]]) and wonders on the full requirements of having to create a new page? I was editing Lillie's quotes and the whole thing took to 97.1KB. As for Looker, because since it's from many games, so I assume the full requirements are that the quotes must be very long and the character must have appeared in several games in order for a new page to be created? Also would "Upon being defeated" and "After battle" makes more sense? Or if "After battle" could mean even if you lost? Thirdly, if I were to create my own "User:Ruixiang95/..." on the ghosts appearing in the Pokémon games, which I doubt will be mainspaced at all, will that be a breach of the website's policy? Thanks! — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:orange">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:purple">95</span>]]''' 11:08, 25 May 2017 (UTC), Edited: 11:20, 25 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:There aren't specific requirements for splitting quotes, but you're right, it probably shouldn't be split if they're only in one game or generation.<br />
:I almost like "After battle", but unfortunately it probably is a problem that it sounds like it applies even if you lost the battle.<br />
:We're more than happy for users to use the userspace to try out pages that they think would improve the wiki. You can include the {{template|mainspace}} template at the top, and when you think you're all done, you can add the parameter "status=complete". [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:58, 25 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Vandal ==<br />
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[[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Poke_bulba_321&action=edit&redlink=1]] Whom you reverted will not stop. Should we block? [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 04:35, 1 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== ability3 field in Template:Pokémon/7 ==<br />
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The field to list a third possible ability for [[Template:Pokémon/7]] (and Pokémon/6) was way overdue, so I prototyped a version that accepts 3 abilities. The only difference between this version and the current one is the line that handles the ability fields.<br />
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* Updated template: [[User:TehPerson/Pokémon/7]]<br />
* Test cases: [[User:TehPerson/Tests]]<br />
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Please let me know if you have any feedback. Thanks!<br />
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[[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 07:30, 17 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
:We're not eager to add another conditional in a template that already has plenty, especially when you want to use it on so many pages that use the template so much. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:55, 20 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
::So is there some technical-related issue with this, or this being something too low priority to consider? [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 17:14, 22 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::...It's exactly as I said. Let me put it less ambivalently. We will not be updating the template for that. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:08, 23 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Intervention, please? ==<br />
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Do you mind intervening on [[Cress's Panpour]], please? [[User talk:Pikablu|Pikablu]] refuses to listen to me when I point out that the trivia they added break policy, and they're persistently edit warring to reinstate the trivia. Thanks. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 01:13, 18 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Template questions ==<br />
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Hey, I've got a few questions regarding templates:<br />
* Are we expected to avoid images in (high-use?) templates? Is there any (server-related) issues?<br />
* Do you know whether the software evaluates all branches of ifs, and whatever will not display due to "display:none"? Or, in other words, is there a reason to nest ifs of subsets within each other (e.g., <code>if a<100 then ((if a<50 then x) y)</code> rather than <code>if a<50 then x; if a<100 then y</code>)?<br />
* You seemed to be eager to wrap what currently is "display:none" entirely in ifs. I believe wiki syntax does not provide that functionality to wrap entire tables in ifs (expression error for me), but it may be possible with HTML. Is there a particular reason to try that (seeing how Wikipedia [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conditional_tables#Plan_C suggests] using "display:none")? (Possibly the above point!?)<br />
Of course, it's related to [[User:Nescientist/Template:MoveInfobox|this]] (in particular, the damage category icons and the contest stats). Thanks in advance! [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 10:46, 24 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Abstract issues don't always work well for me... What makes you apprehensive about images?<br />
:Similar to above... I'm going to go with, I don't know, what's your issue?<br />
:Firstly, Wikipedia doesn't exactly "suggest" display:none, it has it as an option (which perhaps notably comes ''after'' wrapping content in #if). I suggest it because display:none very explicitly ''hides'' content. Take a look at [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Cacophony_(Ability)]]: perhaps ''every'' species page links there because that's a default value in the Pokemon infobox, but it's hidden&mdash;it's still ''part of the page'', it's just not ''visible''. This is just, in general, a less than ideal problem (preferably only "valid" links would show up), but more to the point, there's cases where it can very explicitly cover something else you want to find. Suppose there's a parameter that, if set, shows a line with a link to "page", and if it's not set, that's just hidden. Based on the output, you might imagine you could check What links here for "page" to see where the parameter is set, but in truth, it wouldn't be any use to you; and it should be. I couldn't say for what, but I'm fairly sure I ran into just that problem for something in the move infobox. (FWIW as well, instead of very obliquely referring to "You seemed to be eager", being very specific about exactly where you get something like that from can only help. At least, that's true for me. Even if I did&mdash;eventually&mdash;realize what you were talking about here.)<br />
:[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:41, 24 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
::It's because very few templates seem to make use of images/icons. For example, [[User:MisterE13/Villain templates|these]] look so much better than the current templates IMO, and also nobody seems to have added the category icons to the move infoboxes although they existed way before the template was designed, and that made me wonder whether that's due to images (in templates) stressing servers or anything. I [[User talk:Nescientist/Template:MoveInfobox|included them]], but if use of images were a reason to reject template proposals, that'd be good to know (in general/"abstract").<br />
::Thanks, I didn't think of "What links here", I just thought of categories, and none were added in that "display:none" parts. But thanks for pointing it out&mdash;{{m|Floral Healing}}, for example, currently links to [[Appeal]], and it really shouldn't. So I shall try to avoid "display:none", even if that involves some HTML workaround I guess. (Correct?)<br />
::Example is the contest data within the move infobox; if a move needs no "Contest Spectacular", it needs neither "Super Contests" nor "Contests" and so on. If the software was smart and only evaluated what it really needs to (much like most "normal" programming languages/parsers), in most cases, it would need to evaluate less parser functions if those were nested, it wouldn't need to query some color templates, etc. So, I shall try to have them nested I guess. (At least I can't see any real drawback, now that I need to wrap entire tables instead of simply using "display:none" anyway.)<br />
::I parsed your intention from [[User talk:Tiddlywinks/Template:MoveInfobox#To do|here]]. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:11, 24 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't know if there's ''no'' case where images would be a problem, but I don't know how. In this particular case, if those icons ''would'' be any sort of problem, they'd be very simple to remove, so that certainly wouldn't be grounds to reject everything.<br />
:::You don't need to use HTML&mdash;and shouldn't, really. We're a wiki. We can expect people to know/learn wikicode. HTML can only complicate things. Just stick with wikicode.<br />
:::The only generic argument I could make about nesting would be readability (counting brackets is annoying). There's probably documentation that could tell you. I rarely have the stomach to really digest things as dense as that tends to be, though.<br />
:::[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:28, 24 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::As I said, I believe the wiki syntax doesn't allow for wrapping entire tables in ifs (specifically, I'm having problems with the opening and closing <nowiki>{| and |}</nowiki>), so I would need to use HTML (<nowiki><table></nowiki>) as a workaround. I'll try to see if I'm mistaken and/or can make it work somehow. I know using HTML it's bad.<br />
::::Exactly, yes. But I think it's minor, especially when I'll try to intend properly. (And I think expansion depth can be a problem, but only if we get like a dozen more contests.)<br />
::::Thanks. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:43, 24 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::Just wanted to clarify that the wiki syntax ''can'' be used to hide entire tables. I was able to make it work without using HTML. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:39, 27 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Z-Move Effect ==<br />
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Ok then, let's discuss: Why do you think the E should be lowercase? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:03, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:...I was the last one to say anything on [[Z-Move]]. And what I said seems basically clear enough to me. Either you have a response that will attempt to discount something I've said (and/or you'd like clarification on something), or we can only disagree. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:15, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::I don't think you discounted anything I've said, and yet you reverted. Why did you revert? (I don't think any of your statements is factually wrong, but I don't see how that makes you revert my edit.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:20, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::There's no solid reason to think that phrase should be in title case. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:40, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::But wouldn't that be the most logical assumption for a key term? And also, wouldn't title case require one or two additional assumptions, namely that the beginning of the "line" (what you see in the infoscreen; I know it's not literally a sentence) ''is'' in title case, and that the capitalization ''changes'' between title case and sentence case within that same line?<br />
::::Or in other words: Is there solid reason to think the phrase should ''not'' be in title case? (Or even ''rather'' be not in title case?) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:54, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::I'm really not sure what you think a "key term" is/why Z-Power Effect is such. "Z-Power effect" seems simply descriptive, not particularly "special" or anything (for any solid reason). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:22, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::Oh, you didn't challenge that until now!? That is because I noticed that in German, it is one word "Z-Kraft-Bonus", which can hardly be purely descriptive, and is different from [http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/de-de/z-moves/ the website's] actual description (which is something with "Effekte"). Also, as it's in front of a colon, it's quite explicitly summarizing/shortening what it "describes"; it's designed to be to the point. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:43, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::If you want me to have challenged it being a 'key term', I'm don't know how I should have done that when, again, I still don't know what you think that is and when this is furthermore the first time you've mentioned it.<br />
:::::::I absolutely don't know enough about German to say much about that term, but I do know that all German nouns are capitalized. By that, I'd be very hesitant to infer too much from the German. As for it being in front of a colon, you're making a big assumption by inferring anything from the capitalization there; being explicitly set off, there's no telling ''how purposeful'' that capitalization is. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:28, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}} Haha, of course I don't want you to challenge something I would eventually say. But what I mean when I say "it's a term" is that, well, it is an official term, official terminology, something that should be bolded and translated on the page; you didn't un-bold or doubt it was more than a pure descriptive sequence of words. (And with that German, I didn't mean to say anything about capitalization. It was an argument why it is a term, and not merely a pure descriptor.)<br />
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I know that it's technically an assumption to say "Z-Move Effect" is correctly capitalized this way. But in my opinion, it's actually way more of an assumption to say it should be "Z-Move effect" (because I guess terms are typically capitalized, because "Z-Move effect" requires the two additional assumptions I mentioned before, and because "Z-Move effect" just doesn't seem to be used anywhere official). If you really insist and disagree that it's a term, I guess we can agree that we disagree, and you would obviously have the right to make use of your Junior Adminship to overrule me if you wish&mdash;but then you should also de-bold and remove it from "In other languages". (But I honestly think I made rather strong arguments.)<br />
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But saying both "it's a term" and having it lowercase seems almost contradictory to me; I really hope that we will be able to adjust the article accordingly. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 20:57, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I don't have any particular opinion either way on this, but let me just point out that there are plenty of "terms" that we translate and use bold but that are officially lowercase. There's a whole list of them at [[User:SnorlaxMonster/Pokémon Syntax#Capitalization]]. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:05, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Yes, and/but I think we have them that way exactly ''because'' they are not capitalized in sentence case (despite being terms). But either this one is, or (we're assuming) it's in title case ''and'' capitalized (only) because of that. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 21:20, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::The plain fact is, there is no context where you can guarantee that "your" capitalization is intentional. Uppercase is plainly a ''special'' thing; it is not something you assume by default. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:22, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Ah really? Okay, I thought one would assume that by default (for a term, or a Pokémon term). In that case, even though I would still prefer to have it capitalized based on my arguments, I guess it's not as crystal clear as I initially thought. I don't care too much then. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 21:40, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Talk ==<br />
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So like four people get involved and I'm the only one in trouble? Really fair treatment here. So glad we have admins to make this place so much more inviting and remove all the information.--[[User:Pikablu|Pikablu]] ([[User talk:Pikablu|talk]]) 14:58, 6 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Frankly, you were the one most obviously egregious when I saw it. So I did your message first. (After the page itself.) Beyond that, I have various concerns that are not all limited to this site. Try to avoid jumping to conclusions. Or at very least, if your "unfair treatment" is really your concern, be earnest about that (for example, pointing out politely and reasonably the people you think also warrant some sort of messsge); if all you're gonna do is drawl sarcasm at me, you're not putting yourself in any good light. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:04, 6 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==Thoughts==<br />
I know you might not care too much about this, but I wanted to ask about the Mystery Dungeon item pages since we've discussed it (a little) {{DL|User talk:Tiddlywinks/Archive 3|before}}. I've made a page for [[User:Wowy/Throwing item|throwing items]] where I've split the page into each game. The advantage is that the template doesn't become too complex and ugly, and you can write information specific to each game (e.g. IQ skills). Another advantage is that the item "stick" changed its name to "wooden spike" (both English and japanese) (I am assuming they have the same effect with just a different name). So sorting it out by generation would mean that the 'same' item isn't duplicated twice. The disadvantage is that you can't compare the changes that have been made over the different games, and also when someone searches "Geo pebble", I think the search would only land on the page and not on the exact item. I tried to make a page for throwing item because it's relatively sparse, but I don't want spend time making any changes to big pages such as the [[Wonder Orb]] page before approval. What are your thoughts? --[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:green">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''(토크)'''</sub>]] 08:11, 7 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry I haven't been able to figure out what to say sooner...<br />
:Can you give any examples of where you think an item gets complex besides regarding buy/sell prices? (I don't really know what you mean when you mention IQ skills above either, and I don't think I see anything about that on your user page.) For the most part, it seems to me like, since the template is meant to handle multiple games, it seems best to use it like that (aside from how messy the prices get). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:01, 10 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::A slow response is better than no response! And I also don't know what the best way is, and it's fine if we end up leaving it as it is. But if you take Wonder Orb as an example of a list getting complex, some orbs are available in all the games (e.g. Slumber Orb), some are available only in a RBTDS (e.g. Silence Orb), and some only in GTI (e.g. Notice Orb, well I haven't found it yet in SMD and there are no reports of it online) etc. Like the throwing item, some items also changed names (e.g. Foe-Evolution Orb --> Enemy Evolve Orb). So for anyone playing just one of the games, the list gets confusing as to which one is relevant to your game or not, until you open each table. I guess you could argue that the page is just a list of all the orbs in all the games, but maybe the page should strive to do more than that (maybe?). <br />
::When I mentioned the IQ skills, what I meant was when you open the "In Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team" tab, then you can see a mention of IQ skills since that info is relevant to that game, while when you open the "In Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity" tab, you can see a mention of Team Skills since that info is relevant to that game. So you can put information relevant to that game under each tab rather than having it all at the top of the page. <br />
::Whatever happens, thanks for you thoughts! I'll keep them in mind. --[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:green">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''(토크)'''</sub>]] 23:54, 10 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::I've been advised that a compromise could be grouping games. Like sections for "Only in [RB]", "In [RB and TDS]", "In all games", etc as required. That way you'd still have only one template for each item.<br />
:::I don't know what to say about ones like Foe-Evolution Orb --> Enemy Evolve Orb except that it's arguably working alright as it is now on Wonder Orb, with just separate templates for each name. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:52, 11 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Ok, that sounds good in theory, but it ends up with too many arbitrary sections: "Only in [RB]", "[In RB and TDS]", "[In RB, TDS and GTI]", "[Only in TDS]", "[Only in GTI]", "[Only in SMD]", "[In all games]", and would separate similar items that should be grouped together (e.g. Stick, Silver Spike and Iron Thorn are obviously counterparts with different strength, but Silver Spike would come under "All games", while Stick and Iron Thorn would be classed as "In RB, TDS and GTI"). If that's the case, I'm more than happy to keep the MD item pages as it is now rather than make that change (it also doesn't solve the buy/sell price issue).<br />
::::On another note, should Foe-Evolution Orb and Enemy Evolve Orb be listed together on the same template since the Japanese names are the same, while Stick & Wooden Spike, Iron Thorn & Iron Spike be listed separately since they have different Japanese names and so are distinct items?<br />
::::And thank you, I appreciate your responses! :) --[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:green">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''(토크)'''</sub>]] 01:28, 11 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::Are those arc/straight categories a strong in-game distinction, beyond just ''how they behave'' when they're used? If not (and possibly even if they are), then you ''could'' forego those sections. There's only three arcing items, I think it would be fine then to just talk about the different behaviors and highlight the three arcing items at the top of the page or something.<br />
:::::Strictly speaking... Yeah, the Foe/Enemy Evolution Orb should be in a single template, basically like {{DL|Status condition healing item|Paralyze Heal}}. On the other hand...that unfortunately brings about a similar sort of problem as you mentioned before, since the closed template doesn't display the note about the previous name. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:04, 11 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::Okay, how does the [[User:Wowy/Throwing item|page]] look now? --[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:green">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''(토크)'''</sub>]] 04:09, 11 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Did you misorder the Rare Fossil and Gold Thorn in the TDS section? Seems good to me otherwise. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:16, 11 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Magikarp ==<br />
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I had believed it was rude of you to just undo the entire edit when I thought you seemed to be adamant to keep that section clean, and wanted me to possibly move it elsewhere. However, if your problem was not ''where'' it was added, but ''that'' it was added at all, I believe it's just as rude. By now, it should be clear that I (currently) disagree. Either way, please feel free to outline your rationale.<br />
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(As an aside, I believe it's quite striking you expect me to possibly start the discussion by undoing an edit, again. Or is this you exerting Junior Admin powers?) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:51, 16 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I'm going to be honest... The argument you're attempting to make here simply makes no sense to me. You're thinking something that's just totally different than what I'm thinking.<br />
:The situation is very simple. I saw you added something to Magikarp a earlier that didn't belong. You reverted my reversion and called my reversion rude. That makes no sense, and your simple reversion completely ignored the problem I pointed out. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:08, 16 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Honesty is always good. I'm in.<br />
::In my opinion, a simple undoing of an edit (that is within the MoS) is almost always some kind of rude if that undoing is based on personal opinion only. Even moreso when the edit is not one word, but an edit the editor obviously spent time and thought to it. (I thought about it for several days, and it took more than half an hour to finally implement my edit.)<br />
::...And it's more rude (and very striking) when the editor/edit attempted to solve an issue. Your reversion didn't address the problem at all. It just reinstalled it.<br />
::What problem did you want to address in your edit comment? I understood that you wanted to make me (or everyone) aware of the fact that this should be about the species the article is about, not describe a game. I am aware of that, it's just that the game ''is'' about that species. The game is literally ''called'' the species&mdash;I can't do anything about that. What I did was focus on Magikarp appearing there (and I pointed that out in my reversion).<br />
::(Just in case: The patterns are the most important part of it, in my opinion. I ''insist'' they need to be somewhere on the page.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 18:37, 16 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::I have to say... (With, for what it's worth, no offense intended.) It doesn't matter how much time you spend on an edit, if someone undoes that for what ''they'' think is a good reason, your investment/disappointment in ''no way'' justifies you automatically labeling it rude. Just because you put effort into something doesn't give it some magical protection.<br />
:::You say I didn't resolve the problem you were concerned about. Fun fact: I don't really know Magikarp Jump. My intent was that someone who does should address that concern in a better way than your edit did. (This all comes around to: you're invested in this thing and feeling hurt about it. I won't say you can't be, but don't lay it all on other people. They don't have to have the same investment as you.)<br />
:::You state the problem exactly, but declined to try to address it at all. There's a whole article for details of the game. Pumpkinking's edit addresses Magikarp's appearance about as deeply as (as near as I can tell) it needs to be.<br />
:::And there's already an explicit place for sprites. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:59, 16 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::I am in absolutely no way feeling hurt or something about ''my'' edit being removed. Simply removing that much value created focused at solving a problem (one we even agree on), is bad&mdash;regardless of who created that value. (And I didn't say that value gave it protection, or used it as an argument to "automatically" call it rude.) In short: Removing the entire thing entirely is certainly worse than what I did.<br />
::::I know Magikarp Jump a bit. And/but I don't quite understand what makes you think my edit was bad. If you (have read my explanation above and) specified, I could try to address your concern. (Again, I focused on Magikarp ''in the game'', not the game itself.)<br />
::::Are you suggesting to append it to the core games' sprites? I initially wanted to have the patterns near the prose explaining them, but I'm okay with your suggestion as well. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 19:20, 16 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::Call it what you want then, there is still no justification for calling a good faith edit "rude". Anything not to your liking is not "rude".<br />
:::::I'm not sure why you're offering to address my concern when I've already said that Pumpkinking's edit is good. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:32, 16 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::Okay then, I misread that part. I'm fine with that as well, if we add the patterns (in prose and images). Would you please edit them in (or answer where I should put them)? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 19:50, 16 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I already said, if they belong anywhere, there's already a sprites section. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:19, 16 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I hope you already know this, but after reading this whole section again, I wish to very explicitly state/reconfirm that no offense was intended on my part either. I was not trying to attack you personally, and I hope you didn't draw that conclusion at any point. (I obviously suck at reading your mind sometimes.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 20:40, 16 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Marowak ==<br />
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Based on your response to PlayerKing95's page what is your stance on the moves used in SM034?--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 13:43, 20 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I don't really follow the anime. I'll pass the question along. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:52, 20 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==Shuckle==<br />
Thanks for dealing with the vandalism from Joel, hate things I like that.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 21:18, 20 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Meant to be I hate things like that.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 21:18, 20 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== RE: Encounter Edits ==<br />
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As I've been playing through the series gen by gen recently, I've noticed that the more recent gens are full of misinformation on encounters. Diamond/Pearl had a few apparent hiccups, but I'm running into them all over the place in Black/White. Serebii's database is even worse, listing pokemon in completely incorrect routes and areas. It's clear that the encounter rates thus far have all gone on people's experiences and nothing else. I'm just adding mine to the pool--and mind you, I'm changing nothing unless it's been hours upon hours and I'm absolutely, 100% sure.<br />
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If you want to dig up ROM data, by all means, feel free. It has not been done with this encounter tables. I don't have the time or interest in doing it, either--again, I'm just adding my contribution to improve the tables. Even if it won't make them 100% perfect, it will be a step closer to perfect accuracy. If you want to make the tables LESS accurate by reverting my changes, I can't stop you; I went out of my way to improve the data, but if that generous act is not appreciated, I'm fine not bothering. [[User:Xelrog T. Apocalypse|- Xelrog T. Apocalypse]] ([[User talk:Xelrog T. Apocalypse|talk]]) 18:14, 9 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Is corocoro also a forbidden source? ==<br />
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[http://i.imgur.com/RDIolxQ.jpg]<br />
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Because if it was, my edit was valid. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 15:43, 10 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Can you read Japanese? If not, you're relying on Serebii's interpretation of what that scan says. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:48, 10 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::No, I can't. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:50, 10 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== M09 ==<br />
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Hello I would like to ask for a staff member's opinion on this. Frozen Fennec reverted me when I changed "most likely" to "may be" and said that "most likely" is fine, I think having "most" and "likely" makes those points too certain and I don't see what harm there would be in changing "most likely" to "may be". Please could you offer some input thanks[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 14:39, 14 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:We try to avoid personal opinions, which is what "most likely" is. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:18, 15 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you, I saw that you changed it.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 19:55, 15 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==New editor==<br />
[[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pokerman118933]] This new editor is spamming some strange link. Two of his eduts are hidden. Is this vandalism? And by the way, on the talkpage for [[FireRed and LeafGreen]] I posted a question but I am unsure if it belongs there. {{unsigned|RubyLeafGreenCrystal}}<br />
:The user was dealt with. <br />
:It seems okay.<br />
:Also, please use the "+" button at the top of the page, next to "edit this page", to create a new section on a talk page, don't just put it at the end of someone else's section. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 09:51, 16 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Re:Anime moves ==<br />
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I'm sorry if I seemed arrogant or whatever by adding that {{m|Thunder Wave}} use. However, I would like to assure you that I've learned my lesson: I don't add too ambiguous moves without them being confirmed anymore. However, this case wasn't ambiguous at all in my mind: the animation used for the move was identical to the one used in the {{series|XY}}, you can check it out yourself if you want. A couple other users have also already left agreeing opinions to T-Wave's talk page. Do you give me the permission to restore my edit? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:30, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Type: Null at level 5. ==<br />
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(Without double-checking anything but our breeding page) Eggs hatch at level 1<br />
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Doesn't that prove my point? Other than Cosmog (who's obtained at level 5), everything that evolves can be bred and hatched, which makes Type: Null the only unevolved Pokemon unobtainable at level 5. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:34, 24 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:So you mean by leveling up... That's not what obtainable should mean. And even if you find the right word, having to level up Pokemon makes it unnotable. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:19, 24 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::There is clearly a misunderstanding here. What exactly do you think I'm trying to say? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 18:16, 24 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::That's exactly what I said from the start... If Sandygast can be "obtained at level 5", then either it can be encountered in the wild and caught at level 5, or it can hatch at level 5. Neither is true. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:30, 24 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::I don't think the point is notable either, but perhaps what Unowninator intended was more like "the player can/cannot legitimately possess it at level 5". [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:33, 24 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::: ^ Yep, that's exactly what I meant. Thanks for explaining Pumpkinking. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 23:03, 24 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::In that case, my response here was understanding it just fine. You can only have Sandygast at level 5 after leveling it up, which makes it unnotable. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:26, 25 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::What the hell does that have to do with anything? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 04:02, 25 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::"You cannot legitimately possess it at level 5" is wildly aribtrary. If you can possess everything else at level 5 by leveling up but you can't possess Null lower than level 40, then why don't we just level up further and make it level 39, or ''everything'' from 1 to 39?<br />
::::::::And why do we stop before Null's obtainable level? If we just go farther, then everything can be possessed at level 40-100. Yay?<br />
::::::::Your line (and method) is arbitrary, formed to exclude Type: Null for no actually-good reason, it probably just "seems" right. It's not notable. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:17, 25 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::My reason was little cup, but since it doesn't really exist, why not bring up the level 40 thing? If that isn't notable, then why are these facts?<br />
Of all the Pokémon that evolve by leveling up, Hydreigon evolves from its pre-evolution later than any other Pokémon, at level 64.<br />
Out of all Pokémon that evolve by a set level, Larvesta evolves later than any other unevolved Pokémon, at level 59.<br />
:::::::::[[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 02:53, 26 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::I don't know what "the level 40 thing" is supposed to be. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:21, 26 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}} Basically of all unevolved Pokemon, it is obtained at the highest level. Everything else can be lower than 39, but Type: Null can only be at level 40 minimum because it can't breed. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 15:34, 26 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Then just phrase it like that instead of going through a bunch of hoops to overcomplicate it. Something like ''Of all unevolved Pokémon, Type: Null has the highest minimum level at which it can be legitimately possessed: level 40'' seems, in my mind, to be more notable than dancing around the topic by bringing up Cosmog and level 5. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:41, 26 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Hang on, Unowninator, just because I said I ''personally'' think it's more notable than what you had before, doesn't mean Tiddlywinks will decide it's notable ''enough'' to keep. It's probably best to wait to add it until they approve/disapprove it. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:32, 26 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::: [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Type:_Null_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&curid=215674&diff=2682162&oldid=2681962 *extreme facepalm*] Why does nobody understand me? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 06:18, 27 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Video ==<br />
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I do not want to say it but if you pause at 0:25 of the video, it looks sha__. [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 04:28, 1 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I still don't understand. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:34, 1 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
::You will see a white menu in the bottom right corner. You know why now? [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 04:39, 1 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::I see it. Please don't assume I can read your mind and keep asking me to guess. If you can't explain yourself, I won't understand. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:42, 1 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
All right. I'll just ask if a white menu is possible on a gameboy. [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 04:46, 1 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
And if not, where can one be found on a gameboy game. [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 04:48, 1 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I think they're trying to censor the word "shady" for some reason, and are pointing out that the video is taken of an emulated game (you can see a Windows right-click menu briefly at the point they mentioned). [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:49, 1 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Direct linking ==<br />
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Re: your discussion with Nescientist and the staff ruling that came out of it: Can you please have a word with FinnishPokeFan95? As you can see in their contributions history, they are edit warring on Berry pages to remove the redirect even though (as far as I understand it?) the outcome of that conversation was that those links should be redirects. Thanks. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:26, 25 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
:My understanding is that there were two users seriously discussing, not that there was me and a staff member and a staff ruling. (However, there's reasons and arguments, and there's a policy to avoid edit warring, and a will to avoid useless edits.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 18:15, 25 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
::When Tiddlywinks said they had been "advised" on the matter, I assumed it was from higher-up staff members, but yeah, perhaps I misinterpreted that. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:30, 25 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Insignificant minor edits ==<br />
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(I have asked on SnorlaxMonster's talk page but gotten no replies, so...)<br />
I wonder if these minor edits are necessary: [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Dragon_Scale&diff=prev&oldid=2700623 link 1], [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Dragon_Memory&diff=prev&oldid=2700622 link 2], [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Dragon_Fang&diff=prev&oldid=2700621 link 3]. They don't make any difference when you view them on the page. Thanks. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#4B0082;">95</span>]]''' 22:36, 14 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry, I missed this before.<br />
:"Necessary"? No. Personally, they are something I'd probably do myself if I was thinking about it while already doing something on the page.<br />
:Your implication is that it should be stopped. If it was absolutely all someone was focused on, I personally ''would'' ask them to find more substantial edits to make (and have in some cases in the past). While at this particular moment it seems like GrammarFreak01 has done relatively a lot of that sort of edit in the past day, that doesn't seem to consistently be the case so strongly previously. It's still not ideal, but... For what it's worth, I can tell you that, as of yet, it doesn't seem to be weighing too heavily on anyone's mind on staff. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:56, 15 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
::I see. I know it's supposed to do that while you are editing something else on the page, and not just specifically editing this part only. I remembered this sort of insignificant edits will clogged up the Recent Changes or something else. Since there's no worries about that, I guess I don't mind.<br />
::Might as well ask this now also. Are the Rotom Adventures quotes needed to be added to the Rotom Pokédex page? ([[User:Ruixiang95/Rotom Pokédex/Quotes]]) — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#4B0082;">95</span>]]''' 04:15, 15 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::Just to be sure I'm not missing something, you're talking about the Rotom from the Pokemon Adventures manga?<br />
:::As far as I know, we don't do any quotes for anything but games. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:29, 15 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Nope, Video games. The message they show on the bottom screen as you travel in Alola. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#4B0082;">95</span>]]''' 04:39, 15 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::Oh, just everything else beyond the dex stuff. I specifically refrained from that (or even adding an incomplete template) previously myself because I don't think it's necessary. Rotom's dialogue is a little bit like a walkthrough, I don't think it's worth much or adds much. And it's something for practically ''everywhere'', it'd be pretty huge. And then figuring out for ''each'' of those exactly when it occurs would be a huge pain too. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:46, 15 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Archive sandbox ==<br />
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Will you please archive the [[Bulbapedia:Sandbox|sandbox]]? The maximum number of sections should be 60. [[User:SaturnMario|<font color="#034112">SaturnMario</font>]], [[User talk:SaturnMario|<font color="#078325">his talk</font>]] and [[Special:Contributions/SaturnMario|<font color="#83C192">his contributions</font>]] 22:37, 14 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:What do you mean the max should be 60? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:47, 14 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
::The ones including sub-sections. [[User:SaturnMario|<font color="#034112">SaturnMario</font>]], [[User talk:SaturnMario|<font color="#078325">his talk</font>]] and [[Special:Contributions/SaturnMario|<font color="#83C192">his contributions</font>]] 23:37, 14 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::That's not what I asked. I asked '''why''' you say it should be the max. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:40, 14 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::I actually agree. There's so much text & such on the sandbox that it causes my browser to freeze, so I can't even use it. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 21:03, 21 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== That Rhydon thing. ==<br />
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How the hell is it excluding anything? The Psychic type thing excludes all other types, so why is that fine but not this? (I suppose I could just say highest attack of everything compatible with Eviolite, but I think the other way's better...) [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 21:02, 21 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:How is it excluding anything, you ask? The phrase "non-fully evolved" quite explicitly excludes fully evolved Pokemon. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:13, 21 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
::And Psychic types doesn't exclude all other types? I still think it's good trivia. Can we at least reword it? (Unfortunately, my best idea is using Eviolite compatibility) [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 21:25, 21 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::Where do we draw the line? We've easily had "all but Legendaries and Mythicals", "all except Mega Evolutions", (all but Legendaries, Mythicals, and Megas; only Megas; only Legendaries and Mythicals...) "all starters", your "Eviolite users"...and that's just off the top of my head, there's probably several other "interesting" sets that have been on pages and plenty more beyond that if we just decided that anyone who wanted to could make up a set.<br />
:::Let's also consider each of those sets I mentioned above: would it be okay to start talking about only the Fairy-types, Normal-types, etc among each of those groups?<br />
:::What I'm getting at is that it's a lot of stuff, and all that just balloons. More than anything, it's hard enough keeping track of two broad categories (overall and by type)... (I'm pretty sure that when people started updating the best/worst trivia to account for Gen VII, they didn't pay any attention to the Pokemon that used to be "highest" or "lowest" and had now lost that status, thereby leaving old/incorrect trivia on a number of pages.) We don't need to worry about updating stats for a dozen different categories.<br />
:::Even if you want to say, "Well, I think these four or five or so categories are okay and we won't allow ''anything'' else", it can be ''very'' hard to '''remember''' whether what someone added is actually in one of those categories, without referring to somewhere where it would have been stated out. Beyond that, it's not like there's a simple way to "agree" on which X categories we should have, either.<br />
:::The short version is: we don't need a bunch of trouble for allowing all sorts of categories. We should keep it simple, and the most basic categories are just overall and by type. Easy to remember, easy to deal with... It's plenty. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:45, 21 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Topps ==<br />
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Hi not trying to start an edit war but nowhere on the page does it describe all of the different printings. [[User:Samcarano|Samcarano]] ([[User talk:Samcarano|talk]]) 19:29, 28 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:What's not described? The logo colors are described. The finish is described.<br />
:I was also just about ready to ask on your talk page: To me, it seems like the "2nd edition" set with a smooth finish that you described could easily fit the same case as what you called the "rogue" S1 set. Is there particular reason you think otherwise? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:32, 28 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Everything is stated now but the topps logos and the 5th foil print were not stated initially. yes it could be called rogue as it was similarly not released in the U.S. but was produced here(at least as far as I can tell). So that terminology applies here as well. There are also packs of 5 and 8 for both logo colors. I also put in which set the promo was part of. [[User:Samcarano|Samcarano]] ([[User talk:Samcarano|talk]]) 19:51, 28 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
Hey I noticed some file names for the johto series 1 sticker set that were already uploaded are incorrect. 40 and 44 are swapped in the file name. I am unaware of how to fix this.[[User:Samcarano|Samcarano]] ([[User talk:Samcarano|talk]]) 01:11, 29 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:That's interesting. I couldn't say why that happened or why I never noticed (and someone else had to fix it later on apparently)...<br />
:Anyway, on the Archives, you can put the Archives' {{template|move}} template on the page so the staff there will know and be able to move it.<br />
:As a note also, if you notice any images that are relatively low quality, like [[:File:Topps Johto 1 S45.png|Topps Johto 1 S45.png]], we'd be very happy if you are also able/willing to upload higher quality scans of those. Thanks! [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:51, 29 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Yes, I am willing to upload any scans of my cards. Do you have any pointers on how to spot lower quality scans? I know file size can usually be an indication but I also know that png images can be compressed with little loss.[[User:Samcarano|Samcarano]] ([[User talk:Samcarano|talk]]) 02:19, 29 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't think images that are that colorful can be compressed incredibly much, at least not anywhere near the size of images with such lower resolution. It might be a bit tedious, but that means you could just check [[A:Category:Collectible cards|Category:Collectible cards]], find where the Topps cards start, and just check for small sizes.<br />
:::You can also just check the user contributions of any person who you noticed has uploaded at least one LQ image. (It's a bit weird so you may not have noticed, but if you follow the link for S45/Steelix above and click "view on a shared repository" at the top of the page, it'll take you to the proper page on the Archives. On the Archives, you can see the user who uploaded it, LHakaLH in this case, and "contribs" will show their uploads and stuff.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:31, 29 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== some questions ==<br />
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hi. i'm not sure if you are the correct person to ask, but may i know how often does the admins reviews the articles in [[:Category:Candidates_for_moving]], and what is the procedure for moving of pages for admins? I suggested the renaming of [[List of Pokémon by New Unova Pokédex number]] to [[List of Pokémon by Unova Pokédex number (Black 2 and White 2)]] around 1.5 years ago. However, it had not been moved despite the hoenn and alola dex being moved to the format of "List of Pokémon by XXX Pokédex number (game)]]". I was told that admins will decide on the move after discussions, but most of the articles in [[:Category:Candidates_for_moving]] have no discussion at all, or the discussion only consist of the person who suggested it. Those that do have replies won't even last 5 people commenting on it. And the number of talk pages with the admins involved in the discussion is very minimum. It seems that <br />
most of the pages in that category are just sitting there for months with no signs of any work to move or remove them from the page. May i have some enlightenment about the procedure, such as if the admins actually have their own private discussions about those pages, just that we won't know about it? i previously bring this up [[Talk:List of Pokémon by Alola Pokédex number (Sun and Moon)#rename|<br />
on this talk page too]]. thank you for reading. If this is not the correct platform, please let me know the proper channel to enquire about it. Thank you again. -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] ([[User talk:Pokeant|talk]]) 07:52, 8 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:To be honest, I believe discussion happens in an EB-exclusive venue, so I don't really know much to tell you myself about what kind of impetus there is or how it plays out or what.<br />
:If you're worried about a particular page, it may be best to contact someone directly. That "a particular page" part may be important; I would suggest some moderation, not getting excited and asking for ''everything'' to be resolved at once. =P [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:01, 9 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you. the particular page is "[[List of Pokémon by New Unova Pokédex number]]". I feel that with the hoenn dex and alola dex being moved, i do not see the reason for the unova dex to not be moved to be consistent with the hoenn/alola dex page. -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] ([[User talk:Pokeant|talk]]) 03:00, 10 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== My confusion in regards to Grassy Terrain... ==<br />
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If Grassy Terrain is in effect, '''unless the target is in the semi-invulnerable turn of a move such as Dig''' or Dive, the power of Bulldoze, Earthquake, and Magnitude is halved (even if the user or the target is not grounded). <br />
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So basically, if I use Earthquake on something that used Dig, does it do a total of x1 damage (×1/2 from Grassy Terrain, ×2 from using Dig), or is Grassy Terrain's effect ignored when the Pokémon uses Dig, thus ×2? Does my question make sense?[[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 22:38, 13 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:The "×1/2 from Grassy Terrain" that you mention, you're supposing that comes from the sentence you've posted at the start? If so, that very sentence says that that 1/2 only is in effect IF the target is NOT using a move such as Dig. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:47, 13 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Okay, so the 1/2 is ignored and the total is ×2. I was just checking. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 22:54, 13 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Necrozma DM DW ==<br />
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In Megalo Tower we have an box like this with Ultra Necrozma, and i think this is more convencional since Necrozma is not catchable and need to be defeated during this battles. [[User:Pika fanatic|Pika fanatic]] ([[User talk:Pika fanatic|talk]]) January 27, 00:03 (UTC)<br />
:I fixed it. We do full battle templates for Trainers. Totem Pokemon get that treatment in Gen VII because the trials take the place of Gyms, but that's not what Necrozma is. If it's just part of the storyline, it doesn't warrant that. Otherwise it'd entail a '''lot''' more changes beyond just Necrozma. (This may be worth discussing&mdash;but my page isn't really the place for that). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:47, 28 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== BW142 ==<br />
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Could you please explain your edit to [[BW142]]? A Trainer can only carry six Pokémon at a time and Ash left more than six (Unfezant, Oshawott, Pignite, Snivy, Scraggy, Leavanny, Palpitoad, Boldore, Krookodile, and Charizard) at Oak's Laboratory. The "On hand" section on anime character pages always features up to six Pokémon. We use "In rotation" when Trainers are shown using more than six Pokémon. For reference, see the pages of May, Ursula, Nando, Virgil... --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 23:54, 6 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I agree that's a better phrasing, so I've revised the page in hopes of it being able to stand as a compromise. I hadn't thought of the possibility of using "in rotation"; thanks for the suggestion. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 23:58, 6 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I'm sorry, Mikuri. I tried to check what was going on a bit but in the mix I seem to have missed/forgotten the part where you said Ash left more than six Pokemon with Oak. I thought your issue was that he had fewer than six Pokemon "on hand".<br />
::That said, looking farther back this time, I really don't see any problem at all with Pumpkinking's original edit. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:08, 7 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Rotom Power Bag Pocket ==<br />
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Do you know anyone who could add the Rotom Power as a pocket for the bag? On my userpage are samples of the item pages for Rotom Powers, but default to the Z-crystals pocket since Rotom powers aren't part of the template yet. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 03:16, 17 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I received sprites for the pockets, so I can make it work soon. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:42, 22 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokemon species trivia ==<br />
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Can trivia about a Pokemon species ever be notable if it's not unique? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 02:11, 22 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
:As a rule, it is not. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:42, 22 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
::For example, does that mean the trivia about Dugtrio being immune to telekinesis needs to be deleted because mega Gengar is also immune to it? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:21, 22 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Done. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:15, 22 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Value of truth ==<br />
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I don't want to derail other discussions, so I'm taking this here. I'm alarmed by the attitude you've seemed to have on talk pages such as [[Talk:Team Skull Grunt (Trainer class)]] and [[Talk:Pokémon Communication Center]] in which you apparently don't think it's necessary to correct something false if it's something you consider minor. Phrases like "who really cares" and "what exactly is hurt" seem, in my mind, to be an effort to discourage people from trying to present the most truthful possible information. In my mind, these are plain-as-day cases of inarguably false information (niche cases, granted, but inarguably false nonetheless), and you seem actively interested in discouraging the correction of them.<br />
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For that reason, I wanted to directly ask: am I misinterpreting you, or do you really not think truth is an important value for Bulbapedia? If the latter, is that also the official staff position? If so, I'm not sure I can continue to feel comfortable participating in an encyclopedia if it isn't trying to be true. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:21, 23 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
:You're taking it much too dramatically.<br />
:I'm just going to address the specific cases directly.<br />
:I do not believe that there's really any point to trying to say on any page about grunts that they technically have a "Trainer class" that is their team name. (Note that I am not saying we should have "Team Skull Grunt (Trainer class)". I am not, either, saying we shouldn't, though. I'm personally leaving it for further comment, because, in short, things are ''alright'' as they are, I'm fine just waiting and focusing my own attention on other things.) The only place I think it would be worth communicating that there is no "Team Skull Grunt" Trainer class would be if we had a technical page that touched on the Trainer data in the ROM or something. The argument I made that you express concern about above was against your suggestion to merge grunts' info into team TC pages&mdash;that's all.<br />
:I do not consider an implication that the GS Ball is only available in Crystal's VC version a falsehood at all. You cannot obtain the GS Ball solely by playing Crystal's cartridge versions. There is no falsehood communicated. That said, I also ''explicitly'' did not say that only listing the VC item was the only option. I suppose I must admit, I tried to phrase my whole comment about the GS Ball relatively delicately; so let me attempt to make clear here that what I meant was: I do not think it is right for us to mention (or worry about) the cartridge GS Ball in the template, and I '''disfavor''' some extra note nearby (but it is still an '''option'''). To put it another way, the intended point was, noting the cartridge version in the template is more trouble than it's worth, but there are still solutions that we could '''add''' to the original revision before your original attempt to "fix" it. (Let's say that at least half as strongly as you are against only mentioning VC&mdash;which, again, is not the only option I entertain&mdash;I'm that strongly against any significant change to "Received from an attendant while attempting to exit after entering the [[Hall of Fame]] ([[Virtual Console]] only)" as your recent edit has done; it only hurts what is already perfectly useful.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 09:59, 23 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
::FYI, I now [[Talk:Pokémon Communication Center#Event items|do not think]] that there is any real reason to add any note about the cartridge event. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:59, 23 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== I brought it to the guy's talk page to avoid an edit war, but it's been over a week. ==<br />
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I'm talking about [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pokk%C3%A9n_Tournament&diff=2741661&oldid=2740232 this edit], specifically the release date. I even added the hidden text, but [[User:Akurochan]] flat out ignores it without even saying why. I asked him on [[User talk:Akurochan# Why did you keep changing Aegislash's release date?|his talk page]], but he hasn't even been on the site in over a week. What else am I allowed to do? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 22:53, 26 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Two questions.<br />
:1) What's your time zone? And do you remember when exactly you downloaded it?<br />
:2) I don't know Pokken, so just to be sure, when you said you downloaded it, I suppose that means you could immediately play it (and not that it ws locked for a while still)? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:33, 27 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
::My time-zone is EST, so it's 1:25 PM when I posted this. IIRC I was able to play it at 8:30 - 9:30 PM. It was playable immediately after the download finished. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 18:25, 27 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Japan's time is 14 hours ahead of you. It was reasonably released on the "correct" day when you downloaded it. It's fine. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:30, 27 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::In other words, I have to leave it alone. Is that correct? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 18:56, 27 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::It should not be changed. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:04, 27 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Very well, I understand now. Thanks for doing what Akurochan didn't do himself. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 19:17, 27 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Own Tempo Rockruff ==<br />
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I made a correct edit to the evolution section of Own Tempo Rockruff. Why was it reverted? [[User:IFlames|IFlames]] ([[User talk:IFlames|talk]]) 03:10, 1 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Note that it doesn't really make sense that you get '''Dusk''' Form at 5 AM (which is roughly ''dawn''). You're forgetting that in-game time is not the same as the real-world time (or more accurately, the 3DS clock, which also doesn't have to have ''any'' relation to real-world time). Only the in-game time matters. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:21, 1 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::I am currently playing UM and I can confirm the evolution takes place between 5 AM and 5:59 AM. I know it doesn't make sense but thats how it is. US is 5 PM to 5:59 PM. I strongly suggest you revert your re-edit, or if you dont believe me, try it out yourself. [[User:IFlames|IFlames]] ([[User talk:IFlames|talk]]) 03:36, 1 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Bear with me a second here... How do you know it's the 5 AM hour? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:39, 1 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::::Well first I saw bulbapedia saying 5PM hour. So i tried leveling up Rockruff then. But it didnt evolve. So I found a few posts on the internet saying it was the 5AM hour for UM. So then I tried it around 5:20 AM (3DS time), and it worked. Why on earth would I even lie about this or make the edit if I wasn;t sure? [[User:IFlames|IFlames]] ([[User talk:IFlames|talk]]) 03:42, 1 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I'm not at all saying you're lying. I'm saying you're missing something.<br />
:::::The 3DS's time is NOT the time in-game.<br />
:::::Try this. Check the time on your 3DS. Then go to a Pokemon Center in UM and talk to the cafe owner. (He doesn't tell you the same time.)<br />
:::::That is to say, even though your 3DS says 5 AM, it's still 5 PM in the game when you're evolving Rockruff. The page is correct. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:52, 1 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== "Trade" in Item Locations ==<br />
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For games where you can only obtain items through Trade, do we put down it as [[Trade]] or ''[[Trade]]''? FinnishPokéFan92 has been changing the latter back to the former, so I'm not sure which to go with now. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 01:47, 7 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I personally believe that the italicized one is better because it makes it readily distinguishable from other rows (where it's actually directly obtainable in-game). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:51, 7 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Agreed. I'll change them back when I find them again. Thanks. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 01:55, 7 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
Oh yeah in the same vein, under acquisition in item pages, when an item can be found in an area more than once (but still finite), do leave just the location or do we include the number of times it can be found? (6 [[Thunderstone]]s for example can be found in [[Ultra Plant]]). [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 02:53, 7 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I guess it's simple enough, I don't think a count like that is a problem. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:05, 7 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::If I may intrude, that would require a lot of "backtracking" so to say, as many already existing item pages lack the amount of it obtainable in every finite way, especially when talking about earlier generations. This is why I personally would oppose the idea, even if only for the sheer size of that job, but if someone is ready to do all that checking for every single existing item page, knock yourselves out. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:21, 7 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I think if it's missing, no big deal. It can be fixed sooner or later. And if it's often "later", even "much later", that's, again, not a huge deal. It's fine without, but also probably nice with a count. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:27, 7 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Food Stall color ==<br />
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I don't get what you meant by that. The other Festival Plaza facilities don't share the same progression of palettes with each other. In fact, a majority of the most common ones are primarily or partially red, not blue. Plus there is nothing I've ever seen of Alola having some overarching color scheme outside the island names being colors in Hawaiian, and those four aren't applicable there, or with any of the different facility palettes.<br />
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I get keeping the descriptions of the facility palettes simple, but unless there's something in the game's code or from a guidebook that has official names for the facility colors that I'm not aware of, I just don't see what you mean by them having explicit palettes[[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 02:47, 8 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Let me get the issue of the "palette" out of the way. There are actually two reasonable color "palettes" you can take from SM/USUM. The first is the simple 7 "primary" colors of ROYGBIV, as seen in [[Poké Bean]] colors and {{p|Minior}}'s forms. The second is seen in the 8 colors you can [[Festival Plaza#Dye houses|dye]] clothes in (which many [[fashion item]]s also naturally have). (Pink is the "odd man out" in the latter set; "navy blue" could be considered a parallel to "indigo" and "purple" a parallel to "violet", and all other colors have the same names.)<br />
:Now&mdash;if we exclude the obviously Pokemon-themed colorations of some facilities&mdash;every facility's color scheme is plainly based on one of these "primary" colors...or black. The black is a huge through line, so that gets a pass. But "brown" is not part of Alola's "palette" and it's not even remotely a significant pattern with any other facilities. Calling that one facility theme "brown" is ignoring the blatant pattern that everything else fits in; it's not reasonable that just one doesn't, especially when there are plain elements of a primary color in the building's color scheme. It may be relatively subdued, but it is the most meaningful label for this. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:07, 8 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::That's quite an arbitrary rule to apply to this. You're just applying the standard ROYGBIV, not something unique to the Pokemon games themselves, like Floette flowers, or the island colors. Plus, unlike the island colors, which are far more prevalent in Alola (Battle Royal Dome's stage entrances, the Battle Royal Dome symbol itself, Oricorio's forms, parts of the respective Island Kahunas' clothing, the Island Guardians), there's only two seemingly solid cases of it: Minior and Poke Beans. <br />
::As well, those two are not perfect matches for ROYGBIV. The "blue" and "indigo" Minior Forms and Poke Bean colors are closer to being cyan and blue, respectively. I checked the RGB levels of the sprites in an editing program and none of the "Indigo" ones had red levels higher than their green levels Which for Indigo the RGB levels are usually around 75,0,130. The "blue" ones were far from being dominantly blue, having a fair mix of green and blue, which shades of Cyan usually have. Not to mention the "blue" pattern bean is nearly entirely white. <br />
::All this, along with the Pink and Navy Blue dye shops and the odd Black themed facilities throughout not fitting with the ROYGBIV palette, leads me to the conclusion that it's not nearly as concrete of a design theory as it might seem. <br />
::In conclusion, I think that we should provide descriptions of objects and locations based on what we see, not based on our assumptions. [[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 06:44, 8 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::If the games want to identify whatever shades as "blue" or "indigo" or whatever, so long as it's halfway reasonable (i.e., not "blue" for '''orange'''), that's their choice and not even something worth arguing...<br />
:::Among the other three food stall variations, the only things that consistently match the obvious color theme are the checkers and the paneling flanking them. The first food stall variation bucks that pattern, with those parts having different colors. And, of the two parts, I think it's profoundly reasonable to focus on the checker pattern. Brown isn't remotely worth calling a color scheme, it's just wood, a ''default''. The plain design touch is the blue checkers. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:18, 8 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Ok, I'll concede, I hadn't checked what the in-game Pokedex names Minior's forms prior to now. Poke Beans also likely follow that scheme, even if it's not as solid, there's still 7 of them and they somewhat follow ROYGBIV. The same for the dye stalls; Navy Blue could just be a mistranslation of Indigo. (and I just thought of Pink being there to fully represent the Island colors alongside ROYGBIV)<br />
::::But I still think it's quite a large leap in logic to assume that other things in-game fit that when they don't come in a set of 7 colors that resemble ROYGBIV as those three examples do. [[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 20:52, 8 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I don't think there's a big leap of logic, but I don't think that's the only reason to choose "blue" either. Like I said, that's really the only reasonable color you can point to as the design choice ("brown" is not the design choice, it's just the foundation). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:43, 9 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Once again, that's a very arbitrary distinction. Brown is a color just the same as blue is. I don't see what makes it different from any other color that makes it just a "foundation". Regular wooden surfaces are just as valid in real life for designing building exteriors or interiors as any painted surface. [[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 04:38, 9 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I really don't think this is hard. Blue is a color that the other variations have used. Brown isn't. There's simply NO good reason to choose brown uniquely here instead of blue. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:29, 9 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Grant (trivia) ==<br />
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I simplified my earlier edit to include only Geodude - though Roxanne does have an Onix- in rematches that is.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 08:33, 16 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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: What do you mean not enough Rock-type gym leaders - how many does there have to be for a comparison?[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:48, 19 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Maybe 10. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:25, 19 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Serrebi ==<br />
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Hi. Noticed your post on a user's page. Wnat to know, what iss tealing from Serribbi? Is it not fair use to note facts regardless of who discovered them? I am not an expert in law so it seems quite new to me (after all, I did not underatand copyright or IP rights well until a few years ago). [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 00:26, 21 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:It's pretty simple. Serebii has expressed that they do not allow other sites to take their information. If you find something at Serebii, you'll have to find an independent source or confirm it on your own before you can edit it here. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:29, 21 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I understand. But is there any legal reason to avoid? I do not plan on posting anything from there (rarely visit it anyway), but just wondering. Does this mean research can be copyrighted? [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 01:38, 21 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::As they say: I am not a lawyer. All I can say is that BP staff wouldn't long tolerate anyone continually trying to use Serebii's info here. We have no desire to antagonize them. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:48, 21 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks. Did not realize there were people like that. One learns somthing new every day. [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 02:04, 21 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Fossil Pages ==<br />
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Hiya! I got the individual Fossil pages on my userspace I believe are ready to be mainspaced. If you deem they are, how would we go about this procedure with the current X and Y Fossils format? [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 01:27, 23 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Hey. I'd like to follow-up on this. I still think splitting the Fossil pages is a good idea, following the recent changes to item pages and making 'em consistent. They also have changed characteristics over the gens and I believe the template makes info easier to grasp without having to read through the write-ups in the current fossil pages.<br />
:I've updated them for Let's Go. Please take a look see at my userspace. Thanks! [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 23:38, 23 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::On another note, could you delete the pages under "mainspaced pages" in my userspace? The content in them have already been transferred to mainspace and no longer have use. Thanks again. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 23:41, 23 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't know if I lost this before or what... Anyways, I'll see what other staff think and/or look at them tomorrow.<br />
:::(Also, this is pretty far up my page (with little really unique substance here). It would have been simpler to just reinitiate in a new section.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:07, 24 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== untitled ==<br />
Stick to your pages and I'll stick to mine. Thanks. {{unsigned|Vyper3006}}<br />
:This does not constitute a discussion. I await any substance. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:05, 25 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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You have it. <br />
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https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPoQ7QU8fR_pFFfBvm488IP_N3sMzgzFflr2t9C<br />
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Why are you saying it isn't a real card?<br />
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== List of moves and abilities affecting abilities ==<br />
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You undid my edit, saying that it was "already mentioned". Where was it already mentioned? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:15, 28 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Where you put it before and where I removed those tables, easily visible if you look at the diff. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:30, 28 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::You only told me not to put the tables above the list of abilities, so I re-added them below the list of abilities. Why can't I have the tables there? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 23:02, 28 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I'm confused. Do you or do you not realize that the things you want to add are currently on the page already? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:40, 29 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I realized just now. Oh well. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 02:46, 29 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Unacceptable User Name chain ==<br />
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An array of users named after Communists has just shown up. Might want to nip this in the bud.--[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 02:07, 29 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Types and "metagame" information ==<br />
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Why is information about "the metagame" (stuff like "this type is good when combined with this other type") allowed on the pages about types but nowhere else? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 23:27, 2 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Thunder wave ==<br />
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When I added that trivia (or trivium or whatever), I meant thunder wave was the only status move whose immunities ''behave according to the type chart''. You know, the one that looks like this. <br />
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! style="background:#{{normal color}}" | {{ic|Normal}}<br />
! style="background:#{{fighting color}}" | {{ic|Fighting}}<br />
! style="background:#{{flying color}}" | {{ic|Flying}}<br />
! style="background:#{{poison color}}" | {{ic|Poison}}<br />
! style="background:#{{ground color}}" | {{ic|Ground}}<br />
! style="background:#{{rock color}}" | {{ic|Rock}}<br />
! style="background:#{{bug color}}" | {{ic|Bug}}<br />
! style="background:#{{ghost color}}" | {{ic|Ghost}}<br />
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | {{ic|Steel}}<br />
! style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{ic|Fire}}<br />
! style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{ic|Water}}<br />
! style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{ic|Grass}}<br />
! style="background:#{{electric color}}" | {{ic|Electric}}<br />
! style="background:#{{psychic color}}" | {{ic|Psychic}}<br />
! style="background:#{{ice color}}" | {{ic|Ice}}<br />
! style="background:#{{dragon color}}" | {{ic|Dragon}}<br />
! style="background:#{{dark color}}" | {{ic|Dark}}<br />
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | {{ic|Fairy}}<br />
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFF; font-size:90%"<br />
! rowspan="18" style="background:#A44C4B" | <small>A<br>t<br>t<br>a<br>c<br>k<br>i<br>n<br>g<br><br>t<br>y<br>p<br>e</small><br />
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| colspan="20" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" | <small>These matchups are suitable for {{color2|000|Generation VI}} onward.</small><br />
|}According to that chart, grass and electric are not immune to anything, so the fact that stun spore couldn't hit them had to be ''programmed separately.'' What I was trying to say earlier was that thunder wave was the only status move that ''behaves according to this chart'' and was not ''programmed separately.'' Do you understand what I'm trying to say now? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 23:27, 2 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I still don't think it's so important a difference that it's worth any trivia. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:52, 3 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Klinklang ==<br />
<br />
Hello. On the page for Klinklang, you removed my trivia because it was noticeable. Noticeable Trivia does appear a fair bit on Bulbapedia and if you looked at the Gen 5 Sprites, it isn't that obvious. I'm just wondering why it was removed as such. Thanks. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 15:33, 10 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:We just don't list things already visible on the page. That's just repetitive, when anyone can see it if they care. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:20, 10 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== How? ==<br />
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Seriously, how did you not see the poor English and punctuation in [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Unnamed_island_(EP098)&diff=prev&oldid=2768100 these] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Cinnabar_Island&diff=prev&oldid=2768111 edits]? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:47, 21 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:What do those matter? It's not at all unintelligible. The changes it seems you've now made are minor. That's not even remotely a basis for outright rejection. If you don't want to fix it, leave it alone, you can't revert it just because it bugs you a bit. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:01, 21 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I reverted those because I wasn't sure what the original editor was trying to communicate due to the poor English, and I feared that any changes I made would ruin the intended meaning. For example, with the second diff, it mentions a "Gyarados hot spring tap". Since I didn't see that episode, I didn't know if the Gyarados was a typo, or if the hot spring tap was supposed to be shaped like a Gyarados, or if there was a missing key word. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:25, 21 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::That's just one (arguable) sentence. Not remotely warranting wholesale reversion. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:09, 21 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Like I said, one change could've ruined the whole meaning the user was trying to communicate, and I couldn't leave it like that. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:14, 22 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::...That doesn't mean reverting the whole thing was right. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:16, 22 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Well, what was I supposed to do? And yes, I know that I did "improvements" after you undid my reversion, but I'm still not confident that was what the user was trying to say. It was that confusing to me. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:17, 22 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::You can try talking. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:16, 22 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Kinda hard to do that now that the user thinks I'm a racist. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:31, 22 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::As far as I'm concerned, that's just an excuse to give up. ...Don't. (Also, that is not how I read their message.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:19, 22 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Flavor Page ==<br />
<br />
I'm relatively new to editing wikis, so I'm not sure if I ought to "...discuss this one first" {{ut|Tiddlywinks|here on your talk page}}, or on the Flavor article's [[Talk:Flavor|talk page]], but I figured I'd start here to give myself a better chance of being sure that you read this and don't accidentally miss it.<br />
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My main issue with the [[Flavor|Flavor page]] as it stands now is that the {{DL|Flavor|List_of_Apricorns_by_flavor|Apricorn section}} has the flavors listed in the "correct" order (that being Spicy, Sour, Dry, Bitter, and Sweet) while the page's intro, flavor preference table, Contest/Pokéathlon table, and the berry tables for gens III, IV, and e-Reader all have the flavors listed in the following order: Spicy (+Atk), Dry (+SpA), Sweet (+Spe), Bitter (+SpD), and Sour (+Def) [so not quite half-and-half, like I first thought - that's my bad].<br />
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This is, to me, pretty unintuitive, since stats are most always ordered HP (N/A here), Atk, Def, SpA, SpD, and Spe. I was actually looking at the flavor page for more info about {{cat|Berries_that_may_cause_confusion|confusion berries}} and ended up super confused (hah, didn't even mean for that silly little joke to happen) for a moment because of the ordering of the flavors (though that may just be indicative of ignorance on my part). Because 6/7 sections have the flavors ordered in the "weird" way, I'm beginning to think that there's probably a reason for it. If there is and I'm missing it, then please do let me know! However, even if that were to be the case, I, personally, still think that ordering the flavors to match with the traditional order of stats would be more beneficial overall. It makes things easier for dumb-dumbs like me, so that we don't have to go to {{DL|Nature|Stat-focused_table|an entirely different page}} in order to figure out what the heck is going on.<br />
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And, just on the off chance that you're considering it, there's no need to copy-paste that table onto the Flavor page - the current table is totally fine for its page (though I certainly wouldn't complain if I could reinstate my edited version of it!), since it's more focused on the flavors themselves, rather than the increase and decrease of stats that come along with most natures. At the very least, we ought to make all seven sections consistent, one way or the other.<br />
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Thanks!<br />
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<nowiki>~</nowiki>[[User:Mimikyuuuuuuu|Mimikyuuuuuuu]] ([[User talk:Mimikyuuuuuuu|talk]]) 05:12, 27 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:First things first, there is only one place on that page where any of those basic stats is mentioned at all ("Attack"). On the rest of the page, no one will be able to tell what stat each flavor corresponds to without a whole bunch of cross-referencing (or memorization). So the proposition that an "incorrect" order might be any particular problem is fairly dubious.<br />
:FYI, it was also kind of a problem that you didn't change all of the tables. (I don't mean to say that it's okay for you to make the change if you do everything up "right".)<br />
:My primary concern about the "proper" order was that I'd like to know what the games actually do. And {{pkmn|Contest}} categories are listed in the order Cool Beauty Cute Smart Tough, just as the second table currently on the page shows. IMO this is a fine order since Contests are pretty strongly linked with the flavors (at least stronger than anything else). There doesn't seem to be any real consistency in other things, like the stat order when viewing a [[Pokéblock]], the [[List of items by index number (Generation VII)|default order]] of the [[Apricorn]]s, the [[performance]] stat order...<br />
:Given that general inconsistency, it may be reasonable to default to the order of basic stats. But personally, I don't think it's that huge a deal, either.<br />
:(FYI, you can usually make comments on a mainspace talk page first. It's much easier for other people to contribute opinions there. And people will generally pay some attention...especially if they've explicitly suggested the talk page. But even if you don't seem to get a resonse, you can always make a short comment on the person's user talk page to direct their attention to the talk page you commented on.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:13, 27 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==Alola Dex in Ultras Sun and Moon==<br />
Hey there. I need your help with something. Can you add this to the Pokémon Infobox so I can add the dex numbers on the Pokémon that appeared in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon?: a2dex And maybe add a category like this? Category:Pokémon in the Alola Pokédex in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon. Kinda like how you did in Pokémon Black 2 and White 2. [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 15:59, 29 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:As we've told a number of people who have asked in other places, we are considering moving the 'dex numbers out of the infobox. As you can see on {{p|Zubat}}'s page, its infobox is already very well packed with the 'dex numbers. Trying to make a new format so we can add another could be very complex, especially with the more or less random nature of which 'dex numbers each Pokemon has. We think that putting that info somewhere else may be better. There still has not been a decision on the matter. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:10, 30 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Quotes ==<br />
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I'm planning to redo all the quotes for characters in core series games (I have nothing to do), while filling out any missing quotes. I just wanted to check a few things.<br />
*Do references to other characters and items requires linking to the articles; the names for the characters or items aren't directly stated ([[Special:Diff/2771756|example]])?<br />
*Do quotes in "scream" speech bubbles need to be bolded? ([[Special:Diff/2771753|example - first line in USUM section]]: "This is excellent! Exciting, even...")<br />
*For battles, are "Before battling, Upon being defeated, After being defeated, If the player is defeated" the correct terms to use? (I think I previously discussed with you before, but another admin sometimes changed the "Upon being defeated" back to "Being defeated".)<br />
Are do these doesn't really matter at all? (I doubt anybody pays attention to the quotes section) Thanks. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#4B0082;">95</span>]]''' 09:04, 30 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I'm not sure about linking indirect references. Right now...I suppose if it were me, I wouldn't remove them but I also don't know if I would be motivated to add them. (Very possibly, if I were specifically looking at something, I might realize that the links are a good idea; or possibly the opposite. Right now, though, I'm just not sure.)<br />
:Personally I don't like bold for screaming. It's never come across like it was actually supposed to be screaming to me.<br />
:I do prefer that set, with the exception that "if the player is defeated" is unnecessary since the first half already entirely implies that. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:00, 30 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Cute Charm ==<br />
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The sentence, "The set of possible values depends on the gender of the Pokémon with Cute Charm, and if the Pokémon with Cute Charm is female, the wild Pokémon's gender ratio." looked kind of weird and I thought it had a grammar error. It looked like it was trying to say something like "depends on the gender of the Pokemon, whether the Pokemon with Cute Charm is female, and the wild Pokemon's gender ratio." Can we possibly make it more clear and obvious that it isn't a grammar error? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 03:04, 2 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Fixed. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:08, 2 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Okay thanks. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 14:55, 2 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== The Ash's Charizard gender debate, and the reason I ceased participation on it ==<br />
<br />
Force Fire said this when I contacted them(my notes added to show my thought process reading this):<br />
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"First of all, Dennou is not a former staff member, he is still a senior administrator"<br />
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My mistake. <br />
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"Secondly, you need to stop going around like you have some sort of authority"<br />
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I know that and neither want nor care for authority on this site, nor have I been actively attempting to inflect such....Passion for rules =/= projecting authority or seniority unless you are assuming bad faith/intent on my end...<br />
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"Thirdly, just because I've been very strict on anything gender related, doesn't mean I'm going to say "no" every single time"<br />
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I'd like an example of them saying yes on non-Force Fire-written and mandated gender policy-based evidence, but they're right in a way). <br />
<br />
"There is actual legitimate evidence/source for Dennou's claim"<br />
<br />
Tomioka is invoking Word of God like JK Rowling retconned a Jewish Student into Hogwarts despite wizards and witches having no prior evidence of organized religion besides the occasional "my God"...that's how <br />
Word of God works, which this echoes IMO. <br />
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"Tomioka is an actual writer for the show, so he probably knows more and probably has control over how he wants characters to be portrayed"<br />
<br />
Does he have authority over other anime staff? Is he the one who OKs final decisions? I don't know if this is true or if Force Fire is assuming this (And if so, based on what)?. <br />
<br />
"Tracy West novelisations is not written by a writer from the (Japanese) show. There's a big difference"<br />
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Yeah, it was a bad, rather sarcastically-motivated example in hindsight)<br />
<br />
...I feel bad for ever entering into it based on a big red warning label on the top of the talkpage...Am I supposed to feel ashamed for even trying to quote policy? Did it really come off as bossing people around in a Brainy Smurf-esque way via poor wording? Or did I catch Force Fire in a bad mood/at a bad time...can you sort this out my confusion/shame? --[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 02:34, 4 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:ForceFire can answer best for ForceFire, as I rule I don't like to speak for others.<br />
:I think keeping in mind the possibility that you might be wrong is a way not to sound too bossy. If there's one thing I hate, it's being wrong. So I try to ask myself what I'm overlooking; it can be a bitter pill, but I like the other option less. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:24, 4 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I'm not asking you to speak for ForceFire:I'm asking if I should feel ashamed for even discussing the matter if I'm not someone important enough. And just cause I report rulebreaks doesn't mean I think I'm a cop, judge, jury or executioner:At best I'm a tipster. --[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 12:52, 4 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::You asked if Force Fire was in a bad mood. I do not know that. (And I'm not going to just ask and be a relay.)<br />
:::I'm not certain where you get the idea that only "important" people can discuss any particular thing on the wiki or whatever.<br />
:::But generally I would not say you should feel bad. That probably won't really ease anything, but it may help move past it. (Which isn't to say there shouldn't be anything that can be learned from the matter.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:43, 4 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::That was meant to be rhetorical. I'm sorry for that not being worded in such a way.<br />
::::It does seem that some people, like Lady Ariel, Pumpkinking, Playerking and FinnishPokémonfan get a lot more "freebies" regarding importance and/or extra rulebreaks, so I tend to feel that they are given special treatment due to edit count despite their lack of staff status and/or serial troublemaking.<br />
::::That's what I needed to hear. I will rejoin the discussion now that my head's clear. --[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 22:42, 4 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::If you're comparing (contrasting, rather, I suppose) those users to yourself, no one on staff has gone to your user talk page about anything for, it looks like, very nearly a whole 3 years. You're not in any special trouble about anything. (...To the extent of my knowledge. Which is mainly just a paranoid disclaimer.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:40, 5 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Smogon and fansite rulings ==<br />
<br />
If Showdown(created, owned and maintained by Smogon) isn't a reliable source(Though I think it should be, but Verlisify fans/sympathizers run this site and Serebii, methinks), why is Smogon OK for some reason? They're one and the same, and they cross-reference each other. And have they given permission to use their info? Or is it a case of petty rivalry based on perceived betrayal(s) and flimsy accusations between webmasters that lead to digital Iron Curtains like with Serebii and PokéBeach(That needs to end...That was how many years ago? Talent gets moved around all the time...), and no permission is given/received between them and us? Or should I ask EB/Archaic(To see if he has an old, unnecessary grudge with Smogon's owner, as well)for a more concrete status of Smogon/Showdown? --[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 03:16, 12 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Look. If you're gonna come to my talk page with your mind already set against us like this and just being antagonistic, I'm not gonna be inclined to give you any remotely substantive response.<br />
:Have a good day. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:16, 12 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I apologize for that rant...I had just seen Avengers:Infinity War earlier this week, and it made me...emotional, to say the least. I would like to know why Smogon is a valid source but Showdown isn't, though. ::Again, sorry for that. --[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 01:44, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Source code about source code is a step beyond what we're comfortable with trusting. Put simply, Showdown's accuracy always has to be couched in a caveat. Only the game can truly be trusted to perfectly represent the game. Showdown has had to correct mistakes, and we can't necessarily say where remaining ones are or aren't. It's one thing to look at the ''game'' and say, see, because of this, this is how that works; it's another thing to look at Showdown and say, well, Showdown says this&mdash;and chances are ''pretty good'' it's right. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:03, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Re: {{m|Air Cutter}} trivia ==<br />
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Sorry if my edit summary was unclear. What I meant was, since there are no Triple Battles in Generation VII (set in Alola), Flying-type attacks introduced in that generation can't hit non-adjacent Pokémon (since there are none). So this feature of the move is no longer unique. I'm surprised the trivium hasn't already been removed. [[User:Dinosauramiable|Dinosauramiable]] ([[User talk:Dinosauramiable|talk]]) 21:57, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:If you're talking about a feature unique to Triple Battles, you can't say anything about moves that you can't use in Triple Battles. The inverse is that you can use every other move in Triple Battles to hit non-adjacent foes, and this is not a thing you can rate true/false for new moves because (again) you can't use them in Triple Battles. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:10, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::In that case, the trivium should specify "the only pre-Generation VII damaging Flying-type move" or something instead of "the only damaging Flying-type move"; right now it's misleading. Unless that makes it not notable... [[User:Dinosauramiable|Dinosauramiable]] ([[User talk:Dinosauramiable|talk]]) 22:14, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::It says "in Triple Battles", it's not rightly logical to consider moves you could never use in Triple Battles. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:19, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
Fine. [[User:Dinosauramiable|Dinosauramiable]] ([[User talk:Dinosauramiable|talk]]) 22:19, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Ancient Trait Cards ==<br />
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Dear Tiddlywinks,<br />
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I was hoping you could answer some of my queries:<br />
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1. I have noticed that the Ancient Trait 'variety' of card renowned for its artwork style differences and ancient trait abilities (not included in other card types, though some cross over exists with some Mega Evolution cards also listed as Ancient Trait cards e.g. M Sceptile and M Rayquaza) is not listed as a TCG Pokémon card type, is there a reason for this?<br />
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2. Also should Kingdra's Primal Clash 108 and XY39 (which redirects to Primal Clash 108) cards be listed as separate cards in the Ancient Trait article due to artwork differences or not?<br />
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I look forward to hearing your response,<br />
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Thank you in advance.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 04:19, 14 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I know very little about the TCG. You would do better to ask someone else. Possibly {{u|glik}}, or anyone who regularly contributes to TCG pages. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:19, 14 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:: Thank you for the advice.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 06:07, 14 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Deletions by user:GrammarFreak01 ==<br />
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Thank you for stepping in last time, though GrammarFreak01 has again deleted all of my work leaving a useless comment behind to justify the drastic action. I was concerned maybe what I had written was to detailed, though my additions were in regards to Cameran Palace's various rooms visited in M08. I may be wrong, but I believed at the time of writing that the information was appropriate for the page dedicated to the location. GrammarFreak01 has been advised against such actions and ways to better handle any personal concerns, including contacting the user at hand; none of which has occurred. I do not wish to enter an edit war, and would like my changes reinstated, even if modified, and actions taken against the user for overstepping the mark one too many times. I do not believe the actions are of a personal nature, and have witnessed them against other users. Hope to hear shortly [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:40, 18 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:I did not understand the point of describing every single room inside. And what other users are you talking about? You're making a pretty serious accusation there. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:48, 18 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I'm sorry for not responding sooner. I've been trying to think, and I also haven't heard much from others I've tried to ask. <br />
::My thoughts are, I know that game locations can have pretty detailed descriptions. And the areas that were described do not seem to be accounted for any other way on the page. So it seems to me the additions might be worthwhile.<br />
::I think the best idea may be to try to start a wider discussion about if that's needed. That may be able to inform a stronger conclusion a little while later. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:25, 20 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Hi Tiddlywinks, a bit of an update. I streamlined what I had previously put in, deeming it of value given that these rooms were visited in the movie and having looked at other location pages, such details appear to be of interest. Fantastic news, instead of deleting the new additions, user GrammarFreak01 swapped a few sentences around to give the page a better structure. I'm really happy with the result. I would still have preferred discussion with GrammarFreak01 before deleting all of the additions. I might draft a generalist checklist for any future location pages, unless we already have one of those?. Thanks for getting back to me [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 23:14, 20 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I'm not really into the anime so I don't really know much about specifics of their structure or anything. (Like I didn't know that any other anime locations went into similar details.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:45, 21 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Shipping:List of anime shippings]] ==<br />
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So what's the inclusion criteria for that list? I notice that the content that I deleted obviously has their own articles, but other main character ships like [[PokéShipping]] and [[AmourShipping]] are not included despite having articles of their own. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:06, 19 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:There are two options. Just include any anime shippings like the page title fundamentally implies. Or ask someone who might know what "line" there is (and then also describe that line at the top of the page; although I can't really imagine why there should be any such line). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:19, 19 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I can't imagine doing the second option since it's actually been over a year since there were any edits done to that page before me, so obviously no one's really keeping track of it. I guess I'll go with the first option when I have the time. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:27, 19 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Promotions ==<br />
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Am I allowed to congratulate you on your new administrator status? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 02:53, 28 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Sure. (And thanks.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:53, 28 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Congratulations on your new administrator status! [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 06:03, 28 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Alola League ==<br />
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Why do we not need the thing you removed? It could be helpful. {{unsigned|Elite4Alola}}<br />
:It's already on [[Pokémon League (Alola)]]. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 09:36, 28 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== About the Spaceworld demo... ==<br />
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I want to ask you a question. How can you prove the legitimacy of the ROM? I mean, it fits everything we know about the ROM, and it fits the Honoguma picture that surfaced in 2013, but at the same time it has some some things that sound fanservice-y (Misty as an Elite Four, Red as a Gym Leader...). I'm asking because I'm curious.. --[[User:Prog rocker|Prog rocker]] ([[User talk:Prog rocker|talk]]) 03:19, 2 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I don't know. It's not really my decision. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:59, 2 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Okay, thank you for answering my question.--[[User:Prog rocker|Prog rocker]] ([[User talk:Prog rocker|talk]]) 21:12, 2 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Individual Pokémon in Shuffle weekly cycle ==<br />
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May I know how do we plan to include where/when the Pokémon appears in the "Game location: In side games" section of each individual Pokémon for Pokémon Shuffle? I doubt we need to include the UX Stages since it's the same as the initial Main Stages. Here are a few suggestions for Special Stages:<br />
::Daily, Special Daily, Safari etc. (With form differences):<br />
*Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Special Daily Pokémon (First release)|Special Daily Pokémon}}'' <small>(Winking; First release) <sup>(Prior to February 13, 2018)</sup></small><br>Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Special Daily Pokémon}}'' <small>(Winking; Week 4 & 16) <sup>(From February 13, 2018 onward)</sup></small><br />
*Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Special Daily Pokémon (First release)|Special Daily Pokémon}}'' <small>(Winking; First release)</small>{{tt|*|Prior to February 13, 2018}}<br>Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Special Daily Pokémon}}'' <small>(Winking; Week 4 & 16)</small>{{tt|*|From February 13, 2018 onward}}<br />
*Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Special Daily Pokémon (First release)|Special Daily Pokémon}}'' <small>(Winking; First release — Prior to February 13, 2018)</small><br>Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Special Daily Pokémon}}'' <small>(Winking; Week 4 & 16 — From February 13, 2018 onward)</small><br />
::Daily, Special Daily, Safari etc. (Without form differences):<br />
*Event: ''[[Special Stages#The Daily Pokémon (#6)|The Daily Pokémon (#6)]]'' <sup>(Prior to February 13, 2018)</sup><br />
*Event: ''[[Special Stages#Daily Pokémon|The Daily Pokémon (Week 7 & 19)]]'' <sup>(From February 13, 2018 onward)</sup><br />
::Great, Ultra, Special Challenges etc.<br />
*Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Great Challenge|Mimikyu Appears}}'' <sup>(Prior to February 13, 2018)</sup><br>Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Great Challenge|Mimikyu Appears}}'' <small>(Week 6)</small> <sup>(From February 13, 2018 onward</sup><br />
Or simply just<br />
*Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Great Challenge|Mimikyu Appears}}'' <small>(Week 6)</small><br />
Or do not add anything until how Pokémon Shuffle will display from now onward are fully decided? — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#4B0082;">95</span>]]''' 10:30, 5 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I hardly know anything about Shuffle off the top of my head, honestly. {{u|CycloneGU}} was into Shuffle, but they haven't been that active recently, though I think they've still kind of got an ear to Bulbapedia.<br />
:If you want me to figure it out, I'd start real basic. Like, when you ask "how do we plan to include [...]", it sounds like there's no location info for Shuffle on at least some pages. From above, I can identify {{p|Pikachu}} and {{p|Mimikyu}}, who do seem to have location info, so I'm confused. Are you actually saying that the current info is inadequate? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:54, 6 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Ah, I see. And yeah, haven't seen him around lately. Perhaps I can just leave this on his talk page until he sees it. Currently, the info already on each individual Pokémon pages are Special Stages (Event) that is prior to the update on February 13. Now, the Special Stages are pre-set for each week. I just wanted to ask if Bulbapedia wants to separate them from the two versions. But I guess I'll just leave a message at CycloneGU's talk page. Sorry for bothering. :) — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#4B0082;">95</span>]]''' 12:59, 6 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Template pages ==<br />
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Do templates usually get a move tag if they need to be tagged to be moved? This is because I have noticed that [[Template:Ash and Pikachu characters|two of]] [[Template:Pokémon Battrio characters|them]] had incorrect/incomplete page names and I wasn't sure if those types of tags go on templates aside from normal pages. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 04:07, 6 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Tagging templates can easily be done wrong, so it may be simpler to just bring it up with someone on {{bp|staff}}. (Besides, template names don't really affect a whole lot, people don't really see them, so they may not even be a huge problem, depending.)<br />
:What "should" the linked templates be titled? (And what's wrong with the current title?) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:54, 6 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::The Ash and Pikachu one, it was missing an amphersand sign since the actual manga contained that instead of the original ''and'' and the Battrio manga adaptation one was the one that didn't contain the whole manga title in its name for the template. It was for consistency reasons since many of the other templates containing manga characters had the full titles, such as [[Template:Let's Play the Pokémon Card Game! Sun and Moon Arc characters|this one]]. Hope this helps. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 21:23, 6 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Talk page comment arrangements ==<br />
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In regards to PardescanSlowbro's talk page, I was responding to his comment: ''"I must be dim. I thought you said major appearances equals appearances where the individual was central to the plot? Some of the deleted points may need to be reinstated based solely on this definition."'' How are they going to know which comment I'm referring to if I just post my comment (''"Yes, that is ''exactly'' what I said. There's nothing about the deleted points that would indicate they fall under "major appearances". Can you give any specific examples so I know what exactly you're talking about?"'') at the end of their talk page? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:44, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:How about...''don't'' just post ''"Yes, that is exactly what I said [...]"''. If two people are talking in a group and you want to respond to something one says but they keep talking, you're not just SOL when you get a chance to speak later. Nothing binds you to start without preamble like you would have if you could have responded immediately. It's really not ''that'' hard, just remind them. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:01, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::What rules dictate this? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:06, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Dictate what? If you want to respond without preamble that's your choice, I guess, we don't have a rule about that. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:11, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I meant the whole talk page arrangement in general. It befuddles me how this is possible here. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:14, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::How...responding in order is "possible"? It should be the most basic common sense. Responding ''out'' of order only screws up the order of the people who posted ''before'' you and who you've now forced after ''you''. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:32, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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I would like to jump in here, Tiddlywinks. What GrammarFreak01 is asking is what decision or rule requires Bulbapedia talk pages to have all comments go in order of when they were posted when compared to other wikis where comments are more like branches and split off when multiple users comment on a single reply. Frankly, I am curious as well regarding the order since the discussion on PardescanSlowbro's talk page does not make much sense in the current order, but I believe that there must be a reason for doing it this way. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 20:30, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:"What rule?" More or less just as I and other staff have said: "Comments go in order". The reason is also as I said above: anything else really just screws with everything else. Other wikis are welcome to do what they want. Bulbapedia asks that comments go in order (effectively just like any natural conversation; the entire species has managed to do that fine for a very long time, people can manage here too). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:43, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::But is that in Bulbapedia's actual set of official rules and guidelines? Because if not, I don't see why I or anyone else has to be bound by that. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:09, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::...I'm gonna go with, if staff tells you something and you decide to flout it, it won't turn out very happily for you, regardless of whether there is a strict rule... (At best, I will say that if you're that dubious about something, take it up the chain.)<br />
:::Protip, though: if you're familiar enough with Bulbapedia (and, [[Template:Welcome|ideally]], it ''shouldn't'' really take much "familiarity"), you can answer your own question. And maybe learn a thing or two else in the process. ;) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:16, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I am under the belief that every single rule should at the very least be documented in an official list, that way people can be directed to it if they're confused so they know it's not just something that is simply preferred by certain higher-ups. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:18, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::...Your issue essentially comes down to "I don't trust staff to not be going on a power trip." So I'll tell you what. If you can't trust that someone on staff is telling you something that, for whatever reason, you really do have to follow, then take it up the chain. Maybe they know something written out to point you to, maybe not. But if for whatever reason you can't "trust" something, there are easy enough recourses. (Protip: if you don't want to do it in the open, you can even use PMs on the forums.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:29, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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{{indent}}New comments going at the bottom of a discussion ''is'' written in the talk page policy, [[Bulbapedia:Talk page policy#Editing in sections|under editing in sections]]. As for why, because people are going to look for new comments at the bottom of the conversation, not in the middle.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:36, 10 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Since it's been spoiled =P , I'll leave off with: I'd very earnestly appreciate if you'd take a read through the whole page. If this is one thing you've missed, there may well be other things you can learn. (...Not to mention, if you won't trust if someone just tells you something else down the line, it'd be better for you to just learn for yourself sooner rather than later.) In a similar vein, if you find yourself wondering about {{cat|Bulbapedia policies}}, try to remember that you can check that and other pages we have. Thanks! [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:38, 10 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== In-game trade ==<br />
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I agree about the revert on my change as it was not a future proof way to do it.<br />
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I've added a discussion on the page for that subject and hope it goes in the direction of your comment.<br />
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I'd appreciate to have your feedback whether you agree on the idea or not.<br />
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(I'm still not sure if there's PM so I post this here. Sorry if I goofed up)<br />
[[User:Zanguu|Zanguu]] ([[User talk:Zanguu|talk]]) 16:52, 12 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Re: No article on Aura used by Totem Pokemon/ Ultra Beasts ==<br />
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Hello, I tried to search for articles describing the usage of the aura used by [[Totem Pokémon]] and [[Ultra Beasts]]. There is no article covering this topic. Could I please have your permission on making this page?[[User:Elite4Alola|&#91;&#91;Elite4Alola&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Elite4Alola|talk]]) 08:23, 18 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Mechanically, in the games, aura is pretty simple. Lore-wise, there's a bit more, but still, I don't know. The anime is the thing I really don't know. If you'd like to create a user page so we can see how much and what kind of content there might be, then we can make a better decision about whether it warrants its own page or what. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:38, 18 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I think I'll get back to you on this. I'll will go and do some research first[[User:Elite4Alola|&#91;&#91;Elite4Alola&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Elite4Alola|talk]]) 01:45, 20 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Changes to game location sections ==<br />
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Why should we have one format that's consistent for gift Pokemon, another that's consistent for wild Pokemon, and a whole bunch of locations that don't use any consistent format when we can have one format that's consistent for all locations? <br><br />
On Voltorb's page, why are you using the Frontier Brain template to link to the Power Plant? I don't think the Power Plant is a Frontier Brain. <br><br />
On Golbat's page, why is "Blackthorn City side" in parentheses but "interior" is not? <br><br />
[[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:19, 10 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:"Consistency" is not god. Putting big lines of text in parentheses just looks bad. The parentheticals are only meant to be short&mdash;that's what they've been for a long time, and trades and stuff have used their own format for a long time, and it's been just fine. The short parentheticals do what they need to just fine, they don't need to be twisted to take on more.<br />
:If {{template|FB}} creates an appropriate link, I don't think it's a huge problem.<br />
:"Interior" doesn't need parentheses. It's a simple label that reads very fine without them, the kind of compound you could easily find in normal English text. A compound description like "Blackthorn City side" does not work like that, though. I understand the discrepancy...I considered maybe just using "north" instead or something&mdash;but I didn't want to be more vague (and I guess if ''you've'' been trying to add "actual locations" and all, you wouldn't like that option either) so I figured it'd just have to be what worked. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:30, 10 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::So...very short additional details (like "interior") aren't in parentheses, and very long details (like "received from Professor Sycamore in Lumiose City after defeating him") aren't in parentheses, either? I never thought putting lots of text in parentheses looked bad. Am I the only one who thinks that? Also doesn't using the <nowiki>{{FB</nowiki> template to link to the Power Plant count as a lazy template? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 21:50, 10 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't think those cases are in such a juxtaposable context as that suggests, but you've essentially stated those cases correctly.<br />
:::You question whether you're the only one who doesn't have a problem with lots of text in parentheses. I don't know the answer really, but to turn it in a different direction, it may be fair to say that you may be the only one who has a problem with the outstanding format for the trades and such.<br />
:::You're putting that last question like I should know about it or know how to react or whatever... Is there a specific definition for "lazy template", or......? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:17, 10 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I guess you can say that about me. As for the "lazy templates", this is what I found on the List of Link Templates page: <br />
::::"Although link templates are encouraged in day-to-day usage, it is asked that they are only used for the intended purpose. Any use otherwise may be considered a "laziness template". For example, consider writing <code><nowiki>[[Pokémon Trainer]]</nowiki></code> instead of <code><nowiki>{{g|Trainer}}</nowiki></code>. Usage of laziness templates will be reverted, and offenders will be warned."<br />
::::[[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 23:53, 10 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::It seems FB may be one we specifically let slide. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:16, 11 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Okay. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:39, 11 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Event Pokemon ==<br />
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Hello again. My line on the page for [[Event Pokémon]] said that '''most''' Event Pokemon are mythical but not all. You removed it because not all event Pokemon are Mythical. I was aware of that and I even gave an example in my line and even then, about 85% of Event Pokemon are Mythical. So, why was it removed again? Just curious. Thanks '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 23:13, 14 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I didn't remove it because "not all" are Mythical. I removed it because not "most" are even Mythical. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:18, 14 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::But the big majority of them are. Something about Mythical Pokemon should be added. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 23:44, 14 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't think so. There are all sorts of distributions for regular old Pokemon. I would be quite surprised if Mythicals make close to the 85% you think. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:15, 15 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::The only Pokemon that aren't Mythical are Lugia and Ho-Oh in Gen 3, the two Vivillon patterns, cap Pikachu and Dusk Lycanroc. That's 5 out of 22 (There's 17 Mythicals that are event only) so about 77% Event Pokemon are Mythical to be precise. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 09:04, 15 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::That's very incorrect... For example: [[Eevee (Pokémon)#In events]]. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:37, 15 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I was mainly talking about Event-Exclusive Pokemon, since they're the ones mentioned on the page. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 12:52, 15 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::In that case, you've been using completely the wrong words...<br />
:::::::Mythical Pokemon ''would'' be worth mentioning so long as it's in the appropriate place and using unambiguous language. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:42, 15 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Ah. Apologies if I was using the wrong words. I'll add a bit about them. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 14:32, 15 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Type page discussion ==<br />
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I already [[User talk:Glik/Archive July 2015-May 2018|discussed this]] with glik. Is there anything else you want to tell me? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 03:42, 17 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:You practically neutered the sections you edited. I said it would be better to start a discussion. That way there's something everyone can easily see if they wonder in the future. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:38, 17 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I already started at least 3 discussions. One here, one on glik's talk page, and one on Normal (type)'s talk page. What else do you want me to discuss? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 15:56, 17 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Oh, I didn't know there was anything on the talk page. I've given a response. I may have lost track of it before or something, I don't know. Sorry. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:55, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Signature ==<br />
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Is my signature ok?[[User:Форс файре|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''Ф'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">орс</span>]][[User talk:Форс файре|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''Ф'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">айре</span>]] 18:22, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, it's good. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:36, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Creating Japanese voice actor articles ==<br />
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Hey! After remembering [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:GrammarFreak01/Archive_1#Creating_pages your response] to my creation of the [[Ash's Pikachu (M20)]] article, I've decided to come to you about creating new pages. I'm thinking of creating a couple of pages or so on Japanese voice actors, starting with [[Haruka Tomatsu]]. Is that okay? Is there an article creation procedure that I need to follow? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 19:32, 25 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:The requirements for VA pages are described at [[Bulbapedia:Project VA]]. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:30, 26 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Okay, thank you for the heads-up! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:41, 26 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Cynthia being Verity's mother ==<br />
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I understand that there are conflicting sources about this whole matter, and that is why I think you should perhaps work to debunk the source I just mentioned first before we all move forward. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:39, 26 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Let me ask: let's just suppose that all we could ever have would be these two conflicting pieces of "evidence": what would you think would be best for Bulbapedia to do? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:52, 26 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Discuss it and investigate which source holds more veracity? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:01, 26 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::That seems like it's ultimately down to pretty much opinion... It can be very easy for people to be loud and determined in their positions. I don't think your solution is a strong solution. But for now I will take the simple route and give you a bit of reasoning in the vein of your desired approach.<br />
:::The director's word is currently verifiable, whereas the other source is only secondhand information. Perhaps you have heard the maxim, "Trust but verify"? I cannot, personally, tell you anything reliable about the claim that Cynthia is Verity's mother, but I can answer anything you want to ask about the director's refutation of that theory. If information cannot be independently evaluated by anyone with the desire/ability (and therefore argued with nuance in its own right), then it's a decidedly imperfect source. Sometimes that's all we have. That's not the case here, though. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:31, 26 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Mallow Tsareena Sweet Scent ==<br />
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Hi. So in SM082 Mallow's Tsareena does something that some would describe as Sweet Scent, as it has a similar appearance and effect to how the move was used in its pre-evolved forms. PlayerKing95 has removed it because we don't have enough proof, despite the evidence pointing towards it. I, as well as another user, has reached out to him to discuss it. It has been about a week now and he has ignored multiple messages to resolve this issue, and it is making me think that he will continue to ignore messages because it means the page can't be changed. Could I get some help with this? Thank you for your time.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 18:11, 1 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I saw you've asked ForceFire too and gotten a response. I wasn't immediately sure how it fits in our policy, and I still haven't checked the episode or anything, but since ForceFire has responded I'll leave it to him now. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:58, 4 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Type pages again ==<br />
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Is there anything you still want to talk about? Can I start editing all the types now? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:01, 4 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thank you for asking. And I'm very sorry I haven't devoted time to it (once again) for so long.<br />
:Anyway, I've responded to the last comment and I think you can make edits if you try to follow the examples on [[Talk:Normal (type)]], unless you yourself have other pressing questions. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:58, 4 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Stat averages of types ==<br />
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How did you calculate the stat averages of each type? You said poison had the lowest average speed, but the Bulbapedia articles say a few other types (such as rock) have even lower speed. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 19:43, 9 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I used the averages from each type page. Apparently I made a surprising typo with Poison's speed; I typed 30 instead of 80 (I couldn't say how, 3 and 8 aren't close, possibly I just misread it or something). Rock is right. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:31, 9 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== questions about hidden items in games ==<br />
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if an item is like inside a rock would i describe it as 'in the rock' or 'on the rock'? Also if you get an item from an npc should i use 'obtain' or 'receive'? {{unsigned|EternalDragonX}}<br />
:It's not like you pick up the rock or break it or anything special. The only thing that makes sense is "on". [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:12, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::ok 'on' it is. also u didnt answer my second question if someone gives u an item do we use 'receive' or 'obtain'? - [[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 19:30, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Usually it's not necessary at all. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:09, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::u mean neither is necessary? so in the [[Pallet Town]] items section where all the items begin with "obtained from.." i should delete the "obtained" and just leave it "from x"? - [[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 06:56, 26 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::There are some cases, like if it's a ''reward'', where I might feel like specifying that, but even more specific things like probably aren't necessary. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:39, 26 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== repeated links in item lists ==<br />
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are they bad or good? - [[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 21:39, 23 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:IMO it's usually a little better than making someone look for the first link in the box when they're reading a specific line. And it's how I always saw them so IMO it's fine. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:12, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::But shouldn't we still avoid deliberately adding new ones? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:38, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I personally am very likely to link every line myself. There have definitely been pages where I had a problem like, "Ugh, Beauty's not linked, alright which random item referenced some Beauty or other in this whole list..." [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:03, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Well, I guess we both have different viewpoints on this subject, and I can definitely understand your viewpoint. I just personally don't prefer the same link popping up again and again. Let's just leave the whole thing be. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:15, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::allrightey finnish u heard what the man said i will be linking every single damn link i see in every single item list i can find. :) - [[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 19:33, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I hope you also noticed my reply. Please don't go overboard. And '''please''', start using big capital letters! It's bothering me! --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:54, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::FYI I think there can be a few links that would be kind of useless. Like, say, caught Pokemon, that would probably be pointless to link repeatedly. Useful links are key, unnecessary ones just get in the way. If I had to try to classify it, that might mean mainly tangible things. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:09, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== X-type vs. X type ==<br />
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I was under the impression that the word "Pokémon" or "move" or whatever had to actually ''be'' there in order for it to be "X-type" instead of "X type". I even said so to {{user|GrammarFreak01}} when they asked me about it on my talk page. Just watch the {{series|Sun & Moon}} Pokédex entries. They seem to be agreeing with me, since in them, it's always "<Pokémon>, the <category name> Pokémon. A(n) X type". The subtitles have confirmed that it's "X type", not "X-type". --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:37, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:It seems even the games have some rare examples of this, like [[Acerola]], ''"And your Rotom is a Ghost type, too!"''. I think this is poorly thought out and fundamentally wrong, but I will leave it there and I won't argue with it beyond that. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:03, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks. So I take that I can undo your undoings on the memory articles? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:15, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Done. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:09, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:50, 26 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Move policy ==<br />
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While I understand what you are trying to accomplish with this new rule, I honestly see the forbiddence of using one's own head while determining unnamed moves as absurd.<br><br />
First off: you removed {{m|Psycho Cut}} and {{m|Air Slash}}, when they '''fit''' one of the categories you named. Psycho Cut has been used in the Sun & Moon series before, with identical animation, and so has Air Slash, even to the point where it was used in the '''very same episode''', in case the comparison couldn't be easier!<br><br />
Second: why is the use of common sense apparently forbidden in this issue? Like, what else could Necrozma's laser-like move '''be''' than its own signature move {{m|Prismatic Laser}}? Why can't [[Mallow's Tsareena]]'s {{m|Sweet Scent}} be confirmed as such, when we've seen it being used in an '''identical way''' by its two pre-evolutions?<br><br />
Third: we rely '''way''' too much on subtitles when it comes to identifying unnamed moves. I'm telling you, some of these "confirmations" should be taken with a '''serious''' grain of salt. For example, why does Litten/Torracat know so many different slashing/scratching moves? Shouldn't we just go with the move that's actually named out loud? In some cases, these "confirmations" haven't even come in episodes where the move is used for the first time, like [[Nebby]]'s crying being suddenly classified as "{{m|Supersonic}}", which should be an even further indication that the subtitles aren't as reliable as some want to believe. And what about the cases when the subtitles fail to recognize something what is undoubtedly a move '''as''' a specific move? What then? What about [[Lusamine]]'s {{p|Salazzle}}'s attack from [[SM053]], which could easily be {{m|Sludge Wave}}? Why wasn't [[Kiawe's Marowak]]'s {{m|Bonemerang}} named in its debut episode, despite clearly being used in it (further evidence for the unreliability of subtitles), with the subtitlers rather labeling {{m|Headbutt}} as a move, although it has never been commanded to to be used out loud (thus indicating that it was just a generic headbutt and not a move), while all of Marowak's other moves have, which, based on the fact that anime has been sticking to the "only four moves at a time" policy from the games for a good while already, as evidenced by, say [[Ash's Pikachu]]? So, in short, I consider that subtitles '''can''' be used as '''help''' while identifying unnamed moves, but they shouldn't be trusted blindly. And if something that resembles a move is used without it being named by the dialogue '''or''' the subtitles, it should '''seriously''' be discussed and determined.<br><br />
I honestly feel that Bulbapedia is actively hurting itself removing all this information. Please. Try to understand my points. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:49, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I totally agree with [[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] statement, especially in the upcoming episode of Poipole World that is going even more '''serious''' discussion and debate, wheather that location is [[Ultra Megalopolis]] or another unknown location that only appears in the anime-exclusive. So many questions to answers. It just really don't know, where it going to end. [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 06:04, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::FinnishPokéFan92: you say that Psycho Cut and Air Slash fit a category I named. In my last message on your talk page I left two bullet points on your page in a "simple" criteria for the policy; can you please quote the one that you say fits?<br />
::I'm going to put off touching the rest until that is answered. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:45, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Questions about files ==<br />
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How do I change files on Bulbapedia? Am I allowed to change this file if it looks different in my copy of Emerald? <br>[[File:Hoenn Route 132 RSE.png|80px]]<br>[[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 03:53, 13 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:That's an RSE map. If it's different in Emerald, it may still be accurate for R/S, so it may not be right to upload over it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:44, 14 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::What's the answer to my first question? How do I know if it's accurate for RS, and what do I do after I find out? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:00, 14 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::How is it different in Emerald? Is it possible for you to upload an image to show what is different?--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:18, 14 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::How do I change files on Bulbapedia? Do you want me to upload it directly to Bulbapedia or upload it to Imgur and link to it here? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:39, 14 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Bulbapedia files are on the Archives. If you're not certain about something, using a simple image hoster temporarily is probably best. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:46, 14 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::[https://i.imgur.com/VPstLqb.png the image] So far, the only difference I've noticed is the arrangement of the current tiles leading from the east end to Fisherman Ronald. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 00:31, 16 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Sorry for being late, I got busy a bit and forgot.<br />
:::::::Is that your own image? I think Emerald ''is'' different, but I do not think that is an accurate image from Emerald. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:46, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::How do I make sure that image is accurate? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:41, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Are you asking how to check it? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:10, 23 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Yes. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:35, 23 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::Well...I mean, does that mean you didn't take the image yourself? (If you did it should be "accurate".) If not, you can only compare the currents very closely. It may help to blow up your image so you can see the detail better. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:21, 23 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::I didn't take it myself. I don't know if it's accurate; I only know that it's ''more accurate'' than the current (yes pun intended) one on Bulbapedia. How can I take a screenshot myself? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:09, 23 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::There's one small area that's different between the images, and that difference isn't accurate to either game as I know them, so I'm not sure it's more accurate. But anyway...<br />
:::::::::::::Emulators usually have ways to take screenshots I think, but if that's not what you're using, you usually need a capture card. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:16, 23 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::::Can I do anything if I have neither an emulator nor a capture card? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:32, 23 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::::I don't think so? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:44, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== item split proposal ==<br />
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in this items section: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Hoenn_Route_104#Items the hidden items for gen 3 and gen 6 are put together because theyre the same items, but i want to propose that its better to split them up. for gen 6 the description would remain the same but for gen 3 i would put a more specific description like "three squares east of fisherman" or something so it would be easier to find them. what do you think? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 08:58, 20 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:FWIW it is possible to be equally specific for Gen VI. But...I was of the same mind before. It was decided that it's better to just be generic and keep to one entry if possible. (I have a secret desire to some day just make versions of the game maps with all items explicitly labeled including marking hidden items.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:46, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::curious how u would be specific for gen 6 since u might hold the direction key a bit too long or short and be off by a bit from the location. also okay i will just leave the items generic the way they are --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 06:56, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::The descriptors shouldn't be overly specific (like three squares to the left). "Holding the direction key for too long" is not the fault of the description, that's on the player.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 08:20, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::u mean they shouldnt be overly specific for non hidden items right? For hidden items I feel like they should be.. cuz thats what ive been doing for all my hidden item edits so far lol --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 08:53, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::If you can hold the key too long in ORAS/XY, you can do the same in any previous games. Gen VII is the only time where you've had NO discrete steps.<br />
:::::I don't care if directions for hidden items are specific where they're the same in any games they appear in. If they would be different (and therefore require different entries or other complications), they should just be generic. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:26, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::i understand that a description for a hidden item should be generic if the item appears in multiple games to avoid different entries. i wanna know how you would make a specific description in oras/xy. would you just say like "three steps east of fisherman"? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 13:01, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::What do you mean how? If the item is located 3 steps east of a fisherman, then "three steps east of fisherman" would be accurate. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:16, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::hmm i dont know, i just feel like pre gen 6 its very clearly defined what a step is cuz you would just press a direction key once and you would always be on a certain square. in gen 6 i can tap the direction key gently and i go a tiny distance or i may accidentally hold it for a millisecond longer and go a further distance. my point is that i dont really agree about your point of "if you hold it too long in gen 6, you can in the previous games" --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:40, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::I think you must be confusing Gen VI and VII. I would suggest getting out XY/ORAS and trying to move a step. It is not hard. The movement grid was not removed until Gen VII (though they did let you "break" it in XYORAS). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:10, 23 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::EternalDragon, "pressing the directional button for too long" is not our problem. It's not the fault of the wiki. That's the fault of the player. We cannot control how "long" a player presses a button. It's simply not an issue.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:59, 23 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Anime moves SM088==<br />
Hey, I wanted to ask about a couple of moves and whether you think they can identified and be added to their respective articles.<br />
* Flash Cannon (used by Solgaleo)<br />
* Moonblast (used by Lunala)<br />
* Air Slash (used by Lunala)<br />
* Prismatic Laser (used by Necrozma)<br />
I think the former two can be identified, because of unique animation. They both look identical to how they have always appeared in the past; Flash Cannon is a silver beam of energy and Moonblast is a pink orb of energy while the moon is shown in the background. Additionally, Flash Cannon and Moonblast have already been used in the Sun & Moon series (by Sophocles's Metang and Lusamine's Clefable). Solgaleo and Lunala's attacks matched the appearance of their respective moves.<br />
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Air Slash has been used by Gladion's Silvally. Lunala's attack looked identical to this one.<br />
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While Prismatic Laser has not appeared yet in the anime, it looks like the move's appearance in the games. I decided to include this one, because of the recent discussion on Sunsteel Strike, which you approved because it matched its game animation.<br />
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So, what do you think? [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 16:24, 23 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Relatively simple energy beams are always iffy to me. But you do say Flash Cannon's been seen before; would you be able to tell me what episodes and an episode where it's explicitly identified/called?<br />
:I like the moon element for Moonblast, that seems like a solid differentiator. Would you also be able to tell me somewhere it's been explicitly ID'd just so there's one more bit of evidence?<br />
:Air Slash, I'm really not sure. If it's not unique enough to be added to the whitelist in its own right, then I worry about how any change would play out considering what happened with {{m|Psycho Cut}} for [[SM053]] previously. I and/or we (meaning everyone who usually adds moves and gave it a pass) need to figure out why that sort of error was made and how to avoid anything similar if the rules will change.<br />
:Sunsteel Strike (FWIW) wasn't approved just because it matched its animation, but because that animation was also quite distinct from any other move.<br />
:Anyway, I'll take a good look at the moves and see what I think, and see if the rest of staff has any input. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:44, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Flash Cannon was used and called in SM086 (near the end of the episode against Team Rocket) and in SM088 (around the 9-minute mark against Necrozma). Moonblast was used in SM053, also near the end of the episode. This one was identified by the dub's closed captions. [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 14:55, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Silvally was ordered to use Air Slash in the same episode where Lunala used it. The animation and colors are identical, so I'd consider it confirmed. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:04, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Battle Frontier articles ==<br />
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May I know why you deleted the articles on the Battle Frontier facilities which were created by {{u|TehPerson}}? The reason you provided on your edit summary makes zero amount of sense considering way back in '''2013''' {{u|SnorlaxMonster}} approved the split. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 14:43, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Immediately apparent here is a really big assumption on your part.<br />
:Namely: that I know what you are referring to when you say SM approved it in 2013.<br />
:Perhaps you could help by pointing to where that was? (In the future as well, if you can, essentially, "source" your comments with links or something, that can help a lot if someone else doesn't know what you're referring to (which is probably not a good assumption to make usually).) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:53, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Is it so hard to go to the talk page and search for a comment SM left in 2013? Apparently so. [[Talk:Battle Frontier (Generation III)#Splitting suggestion|Here you have it]]. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 14:57, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I'm not going to reward that attitude by doing work for you... Either I can spend who-knows-how-long to look for something you know and I don't every time you do anything like this, or I can try to prompt you to remember to provide these answers yourself sooner rather than later. It shouldn't be a horrible courtesy I'm asking. If you wish to respond to my request, I will be happy to respond further, otherwise, you'll have to be satisfied with what you can make from this. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:03, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::What are you even talking about now? I responded to your request and provided a link. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 15:07, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Yeah. I realized that just posting. I apologize, I seem to have missed the link at the end of your message. I think when I saw that my mind thought it was a signature. (Again...the abrasive attitude didn't help anything either, though.)<br />
:::::So, it shouldn't really be hard to imagine, but I did not read that part of the talk page when I checked to see if the split that TehPerson had performed was approved. (I don't really understand why you might think I would have seen it and ignored it, certainly without explicitly acknowledging it.)<br />
:::::For what it's worth, the Generation IV pages do not seem to have been approved. Also, SnorlaxMonster's message said "'''we''' can make progress", which does not necessarily mean "proceed entirely at your own discretion". Beyond which, 5 years is a long time. If TehPerson knew about that message, it still would have been very reasonable to ask someone on {{bp|staff}} directly (perhaps even SnorlaxMonster himself) just to check, even referencing SnorlaxMonster's old comment. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:17, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::So you're essentially saying that you, by clicking on a button, undid all the hard work TehPerson put on creating those pages because you failed to read the talk page? Is that correct?<br />
::::::What SM really said in that comment is that the split hadn't been performed yet because '''we''' didn't have all the necessary pages ready. '''We''' made progress when TehPerson went and created those pages.<br />
::::::Anyway, are you going to undo your own edits now? At least the Generation III pages have been approved. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 15:33, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I read the talk page. Sorry if I'm not perfect. That's why all you beautiful people are here to help. (Though I'd appreciate it a bit more if it was rendered with less hostility. =P )<br />
:::::::I'm not going to undo anything right now. There's no great rush.<br />
:::::::I'm just going to wait until I know for sure what our decision is rather than presume. Patience. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:46, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Professor Willow special research ==<br />
Hi, I followed the pre-existing format for "A Mythical Discovery" which was omitting the very last sentence of each phase and used bullet points for items. Should you want to reintroduce correct phrasing, you may find video reference for the following researches:<br />
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEjrqrBi1iM GO Fest 2018]<br />
*[https://youtu.be/_WsWgCIaixk Yokosuka]<br />
Also you removed "Special Research" from "A Mythical Discovery" and "A Ripple in Time" but not from "Go FEST 2018" and "Pokémon GO Safari Zone in YOKOSUKA", was this intended? [[User:JaxomNC|JaxomNC]] ([[User talk:JaxomNC|talk]]) 03:57, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:There is no format to "follow" for quotes except to represent as precisely as possible what a character's dialogue actually shows. We don't want to invent anything where there is no need, we want to document the game faithfully. (And Willow's dialogue for the Mythical Discovery steps did not have any "last sentence" with all the tasks, it did actually list the tasks on their own lines (with no bullet points).)<br />
:Thanks for the links. Like I said, I deferred any substantial edits to the two variants until I had seen them myself (because, as I said, they should reflect as precisely as possible what the game shows). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:35, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Notability ==<br />
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Hello! I saw that you undid a revision I made on [[Trainers' School (Alola)]] due to notability. I'm still new here and figuring out the conventions, and I couldn't find a solid answer on the [[Bulbapedia:Notability requirements]] page. What typically makes something not notable? Was there anything specific about that change that I should avoid doing in the future? Thank you! [[User:Butterfreeism|<span style="color:#625B7C">'''–Bu<span style="color:#C05751">tt<span style="color:#5A93AE">erfr</span>ee</span>ism'''</span>]] 01:27, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I was mostly using notable as a common word rather than in the specific sense on the page you linked. It's just kind of pointless to note that [whatever] is only found in "this" area. Either the person is already there and will find the Pokemon if they want to, or they're not (or they may leave and forget) and if they want to find that Pokemon there's a very convenient species page where they will be well able to find a location where they can look for it, regardless of whether there's one place or more. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:06, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Understood! Thanks for the insight! :) [[User:Butterfreeism|<span style="color:#625B7C">'''–Bu<span style="color:#C05751">tt<span style="color:#5A93AE">erfr</span>ee</span>ism'''</span>]] 06:57, 10 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Oluolu ==<br />
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The [[SM091|newest episode of the anime]] confirms that exclusive Z-Moves need specific moves as their basis in the anime too. Should this count as a sign that [[Oluolu]]'s {{p|Snorlax}} knows {{m|Giga Impact}} to perform {{m|Pulverizing Pancake}}, despite it never having been seen using Giga Impact? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:48, 8 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I'll see if the rest of staff have any qualms about it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:42, 8 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks. I'll be waiting.<br />
::Oh, and I also remembered: doesn't this also mean that [[Nebby]] learned {{m|Sunsteel Strike}} immediately after evolving in [[SM052]], given how it was able to perform {{m|Searing Sunraze Smash}} in the same episode? And, by extension, shouldn't that be proof that the move Nebby used in [[SM053]] wasn't just "a glowing headbutt"? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:24, 8 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::No... Even supposing Nebby knew Sunsteel Strike, there's no reason to assume that's what it was doing. There are very unique parts of Sunsteel Strike that were not at all seen there; that's a huge leap of logic. Frankly, there's no reason to assume Nebby was using any move, as opposed to just building up power and smashing through the rock. Not everything HAS to be a move. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:31, 8 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Your scepticism is way too over the top... --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:43, 8 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I don't exactly want to "shout", but I'm honestly a little astounded if you don't understand this huge point... '''"There are very unique parts of Sunsteel Strike that were not at all seen"'''. That's not overly skeptical, that's ''only'' reasonable. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:56, 8 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Oh, I'm sorry (like, not sarcastic or anything), in the midst of my reaction above, I did forget to mention... Yes, it's okay to say that a Pokemon knows the base move if it uses an exclusive Z-Move. (It doesn't count as a use of the base move in and of itself, though. For that it'd have to be identifiable by the same criteria as any anime move.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:52, 8 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Undoing edits ==<br />
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Regarding the edit you [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_Generations&diff=2858945&oldid=2858907 undid] on the [[Pokémon Generations]] page.<br />
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Why?<br />
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Maybe Bulbapedia doesn't make it a priority to use dashes the way style guides recommend, and maybe we're not going to make a [[wp:MOS:DASH|policy]] to "enforce" proper usage. But what reason is there to enforce it in the opposite direction? Where's the Bulbapedia policy on that? Just because an edit didn't need to be done, doesn't mean it needs to be ''un''done.<br />
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I don't know if Bulbapedia has an explicitly-stated equivalent policy, but Wikipedia has certain guidelines with regards to undoing people's edits. Per [[wp:WP:REVERT#Before reverting|WP:REVERT]]:<br />
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''"Consider carefully before reverting, as it rejects the contributions of another editor. […] In the edit summary or on the talk page, succinctly explain why the change you are reverting was a bad idea or why reverting it is a better idea."''<br />
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"We don't normally bother with that" isn't good enough. Why is undoing it better than leaving it alone? How is the article improved by your reversion? — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 18:54, 10 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I guess I'm just responding to your logic. You said/are saying that endash is the "right" thing to use, meaning it should always be used. I don't think there's actually a passive/lazy middle ground like you're suggesting.<br />
:And IMO it's really not worth making anyone type out "ndash" or copy the right symbol. Not when I'm sure most people wouldn't even notice any difference just reading either version, or have ''any'' idea that it's a "thing" (meaning there'd just have to be other people watching out for it all the time&mdash;again, not worth it). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:58, 10 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::What you're saying is, in your opinion, it wasn't worth it to make the edit. That was already established. That doesn't explain why it's worth it to undo. [[wp:WP:DONTREVERT|Don't revert edits just because they're not a significant improvement.]] —&nbsp;[[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 04:07, 11 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::We are not Wikipedia. We have our rules, and they have there's. The point TiddlyWinks is trying to make is that you didn't have to make the edit in the first place. It was unnecessary, that's why it was reverted.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:58, 11 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I would add, it's "worth" undoing because a mix of styles is not "good" either. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:21, 11 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::You guys aren't very good at clicking links, are you?<br />
:::::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Revert_only_when_necessary#Bad_reasons_to_revert<br />
:::::''"Do not revert an edit because that edit is unnecessary"''<br />
:::::I don't know how it could possibly be any clearer. Just because an editor isn't following ''your'' agenda, doesn't mean it's your responsibility to stamp them out. This is a wiki. It's collaborative.<br />
:::::And as far as the "mix of styles" argument, there are two reasons why that's nonsense. First, because "most people wouldn't even notice any difference just reading either version," as ''you'' said. No reader would ever see that dash and think, "That needs to be changed to a hyphen," yet you made that change anyway. And second, why should we be complacent about this punctuation issue but not others? Even if "most people" don't know or care about the difference between ''its'' and ''it's'', we still want our articles to look like they're written by people who do, which is why we don't reintroduce errors after people fix them. —&nbsp;[[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 14:55, 11 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::News flash: we are not beholden to Wikipedia. (Which ForceFire already pointed out.)<br />
:::::For the rest: refer again to my original explanation of why it's ''not worth'' it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:22, 11 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Not-up-to-standards Messages- SM075 - SM088 ==<br />
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Hi Tiddlywinks,<br />
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I am messaging you in regards to the not up to standards messages on the sm075 through to sm088 episode plot pages. They were placed on the respective pages by GrammarFreak01 several weeks ago, and have yet to be rectified. I had earlier attempted to edit the sm075 plot, but the not up to standards message was reinstated by GrammarFreak01. I don't feel the current alerts are necessary to begin with as most of the pages were edited in response to FinnishPokeFan92's concerns, but I want the best result. As the user suggested, and because he is busy, could you or ForceFire look over those pages and make the necessary changes to delete the alerts? [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 23:58, 12 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:Let me clarify that the tags are up there because there are some leftover errors that were most likely missed during the cleanup process. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:06, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Version Exclusive as Trivia ==<br />
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I've seen that you deleted my added trivia fact on the Pokémon Blue Japanese version page. I do agree that this fact may not be trivia-worthy, however on the Pokémon Yellow page, there is an exact same trivia fact on Farfetch'd. Perhaps it would benefit consistency to delete the trivia-fact from that page too then? <br />
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''Out of all the [[core series]] [[Generation I]] games, this is the only one where {{p|Jynx}} can be caught in the wild; in the Japanese {{2v2|Red|Green}} as well as in the {{game|Red and Blue|s|Western Red and Blue}}, this Pokémon is only available by means of an [[in-game trade]]. In {{game|Yellow}} Jynx is unobtainable altogether.''<br />
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I think the 'uniqueness' in this regard is that Jynx cannot be caught in the wild in ANY International version of the games and Farfetch'd cannot be caught in ANY Japanese version. Not sure whether later games have this kind of trade-only Pokémon across all core games within one generation. Obviously it's all not that important, but the wiki is at a state right now where only small improvements are necessary, so we got the time to nitpick. {{unsigned|Malzagath}}<br />
:Feel free to remove it.<br />
:FWIW, if I weren't tired I might be able to follow my own train of thought all the way through on these and give more explanation or ''possibly'' change my mind a bit somehow...but here we are for now. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:35, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== "No exclusions" (Meltan thing) ==<br />
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[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Meltan_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=2882460&oldid=2882156 How is it excluding anything?] I fail to see how it's different compared to similar trivia for starters, legendaries, and "of all [insert type here] Pokemon." [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:14, 19 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I misspoke. The only mosts/leasts that should exist should be overall and for types. That's what I meant to get at (so those things you mentioned shouldn't be on pages).<br />
:"No exclusions" is just really easy to say and it's the first thing I think of (especially as it was the first thing that really started bugging me about the stat trivia). I don't think I've had to deal with it recently so...I guess I just didn't think it through. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:35, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== LGPE Stats template ==<br />
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Are there any actual problems on the merits with the [[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:SadisticMystic/LGPEStats]] template? Instead of having a note under the statboxes that it doesn't compute LGPE max stats correctly, I figured it might be worth computing stats under the LGPE formula correctly. [[User:SadisticMystic|SadisticMystic]] ([[User talk:SadisticMystic|talk]]) 23:52, 23 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I haven't evaluated it. But templates can be done in ill-advised ways. (We have done that and had to correct things as Bulbapedia grew. And we're still not perfect.) So we can't just have people throwing anything together and spreading it everywhere. It's great if you want to make a template, you just need to ask for it to be approved before you can use it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:07, 24 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Fossil Pages ==<br />
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Hiya, any developed thoughts on splitting the Fossil pages? It'd also help lessen the chance of accidental redirects (e.g. [[Dome Fossil]] leads to [[Dome and Helix Fossils]]). Also, I think the Berry page template could use a similar update (see my suggestion at [[User talk:Force Fire#Berry Template update]]). Lemme know your thoughts. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 01:06, 1 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:They are mainspaced. I would ask you to double-check the previous paired pages (like by checking their history since you created the split pages) for anything that was updated that didn't make it to the new pages.<br />
:(I think you also asked about unneeded pages in your userspace. I'll deal with those. But I hope you're also currently remembering the proper way to mainspace pages (not just copy/pasting content, that is).) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:26, 2 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks! And yup, I'll see to it that doesn't happen again. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 16:49, 2 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Long overdue, but I remembered your userpages today: done. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:16, 5 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Master Trainer movesets ==<br />
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I don't think that Master Trainer movesets need to be put on location pages. The "Master Trainer" link under each Trainer's name will lead to the article where the movesets are listed anyway. What you're suggesting is nothing more than waste of space in my opinion. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:40, 19 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:We thought the movesets were important enough to be needed on their page. It doesn't make any sense that we would skip the same movesets on their location pages then. If I expect movesets anywhere, it's on the locations really; my original opinion was that the movesets belonged on the location pages and, on the master trainer page, people could just follow links to those pages to find the movesets instead of wasting space ''there''. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:20, 19 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Well, too bad for you, because the movesets are listed there now, and it's honestly saving space on location pages. Those Trainers aren't notable enough to deserve moveset templates on location pages. Besides, there's over a hundred of them. It simply isn't worth the effort. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:37, 19 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::The list was made with the intention of not needing to bring them up in the location pages. Because there are many Master Trainers that can be found in any given location, and they are relatively minor characters compared to, say, {{ga|Trace}} or the [[Elite Four]], I believe it would be better for users to refer to the Master Trainer page for quick reference. - [[User:Chosen|<span style="color:#EE99AC">Chosen</span>]] <span style="color:#6890F0">of</span> [[User talk:Chosen|<span style="color:#F8D030">Mana</span>]] 16:53, 19 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I do not think it is at all logical for us to say, we need more than just a bare bones party listing on the Master Trainer page, but for locations that's totally fine. I could be open to some alternate solution, but it does not make sense to me to treat them differently only on locating pages. Either both places only need the party listing, or both places need something more. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:03, 19 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Chosen was the one who made the Master Trainer list, and he has given his judgement on this matter. Please accept it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:46, 20 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I'll start by apologizing. There are some more or less specific circumstances when I leave an edit summary blank (compared to my normal habit of writing something no matter the edit); this can often be some combination of lack of time/energy, or my thoughts being in tones I don't really want to write, and/or just feeling like there's too much to say. Normally I figure it'll turn out more or less alright. And...honestly, with a discussion already going here (and you having given no response here at the time), I really thought you'd find a moment to talk a bit here before things went altogether too far. But it was pointed out to me that my empty edit summaries probably didn't help anything, ultimately resulting in the mess now in Route 4's history. After reflecting, I have to agree that I can do better; in the future, I will. (I'm going to attempt to leave my comment on your behavior at: I hope you realize there's some reflecting you can do too.)<br />
::::::On to the issue itself!<br />
::::::You're claiming that as the creator of the page, Chosen should have all say over how it (or anything related to it...) works. That's not at ''all'' how Bulbapedia works...<br />
::::::Beyond that, it's also not really your place to enforce Chosen's will. Especially when I really don't think Chosen position was that the page MUST be changed back immediately.<br />
::::::I'll end by re-emphasizing my last comment from before. An ALTERNATE should be very possible (i.e., a compromise). It doesn't have to be your way or the highway. As a starting point at least, I'd just ask you to recongize that. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:30, 21 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== USUM Fashion Items ==<br />
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I am exploring ways to expand the fashion item tables in [[Fashion item]] to include USUM-exclusive items and came up with two different ways to do so, all summarized in [[Talk:Fashion item#USUM fashion items]]. Given that you created the page in the first place, I would like to hear your input regarding the matter (preferably by posting on that talk page, rather than here). [[User:SilSinn9801|--SilSinn (Pokémon Sun TID: 768426&#59; Pokémon Ultra Moon TID: 123446)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 05:50, 20 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:This is the last thing I have gotten to this morning... I'll examine it later. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:43, 20 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I'm sorry, I forgot about this.<br />
::The first tables just seem terribly wasteful with the availability columns only having one half or the other used at a time. The second set seems smarter, though in that there shouldn't be any need for sups on the USUM items if there's a divider explaining exactly the same thing already. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:05, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::OK, so I discard the extra-column version and proceed with the second version. Given that, in the current tables, all fashion items listed under SM are also available in USUM and that items exclusive to Sun are also exclusive to USun (and those exclusive to Moon are also exclusive to UMoon), I think the current [[Template:Fashion/header|Fashion/header template]] can be updated to match my [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/headerUSUM|Fashion/headerUSUM template]]. Is it safe for me to update that template, given that such template is only being transcluded into one article (the one we want to update)? Or should I leave that matter to you as the author of the original template?<br />
:::Since the divider is a template (the one I called <del>Fashion/middle; shall I rename it instead </del>Fashion/divider<del>?</del>), do you give it approval to mainspace it? Or, what if I remove the divider and use instead the sups on the new items (on which case the divider template remains in my space)? It’s up to you to decide what you prefer. (At least I determined that the divider doesn’t affect table sortability, although its presence sometimes results in some very annoyingly interesting results when playing with column sorting.)<br />
:::And as for the current [[Template:Fashion/footer|Fashion/footer template]], can I also update it to match my [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/footerUSUM|Fashion/footerUSUM template]] (unless you want to rewrite some of the wording there, on which case I leave the update to you)? In the meantime, I will proceed to furnish the other updated tables, using the second format which you called smarter. --[[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn]] (TIDs: 768426<b><sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup></b>, 123446<b><sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup></b>) ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 04:10, 27 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Also, for at least <del>two</del> three male items (the Water Shoes, <del>and</del> the Nylon Backpack, and the Baseball Hat), I had to create another template, '''[[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/s2|Fashion/s2]]''', to allow dual pricing on a single slot (blank price in SM because of default availability, numeric price in USUM because you have to buy them in USUM). This template will also need approval for mainspacing. As for the other two templates, '''[[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/divider|Fashion/middle]]''' and '''[[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/su|Fashion/su]]''', a decision has to be made first: Do we keep the divider and drop the sups ''(on which case Fashion/middle would need to be approved/&#x200b;mainspaced and <del>possibly</del> renamed '''Fashion/divider''')''? Or do we drop the divider and keep the sups ''(on which case Fashion/su would need approval/&#x200b;mainspacing)''? This is perhaps the last decision to make before finally incorporating the updated male tables into the article itself ''(and also updating the item and pricing grand totals)'' before I move on with updating the female tables. --[[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn]] (TIDs: 768426<b><sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup></b>, 123446<b><sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup></b>) ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 17:45, 27 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I'm not going to try to get into this today, but... Did you try to post the entire set of USUM data on the Fashion item talk page? Because, in particular for a dataset that large, a talk page isn't really a proper place to try to store it. If you want to do something like that, you can just leave it on a page in your userspace. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:23, 28 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::You may be right about that. I will move all but two tables to a subpage of mine while I still compute the item and price totals. As for the rejected table, can I remove all but two slots from that table (or perhaps remove the entire rejected table so that I can later request the deletion of the now-unneeded UFashion templates in my userspace)? --[[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn]] (TIDs: 768426<b><sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup></b>, 123446<b><sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup></b>) ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 04:06, 28 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::P.S. I moved <del>almost</del> everything to [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items]] as per your recommendation. I only left behind <del>two representative tables (male and female tops) with</del> notes regarding the relocation of tables to my user subpage. --[[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn]] (TIDs: 768426<b><sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup></b>, 123446<b><sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup></b>) ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 04:23, 28 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::P.S. P.S. [[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] removed the rejected table (the one with three extra (wasteful) columns) so we don’t have to worry about it anymore (and I requested the deletion of the four UFashion templates used by that table, which ForceFire already achieved, because I no longer see any need for them). --[[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn]] (TIDs: 768426<b><sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup></b>, 123446<b><sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup></b>) ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 05:58, 28 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== 2 random questions ==<br />
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If my edit was tagged "bad formatting", how can I fix it? <br>How can I see the size of an article or an early version of an article? <br>[[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 20:22, 23 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I don't remember anything specific that triggers that notice, but if you want to narrow down where it's occurring, just remove parts of the page and see if the notice still shows up. (Although, I also don't remember for sure if the notice is shown when you just preview... If not, that wouldn't really be viable.)<br />
:The history tab shows the size of revisions. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:05, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I tried using the preview. It only shows when I try to save the edit. As for size, what if I want the size of the entire article, not just the revision? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:58, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Also I tried testing on section 13 of the Platinum walkthrough, and I was able to get the entire article to save without the tag. So I still don't know what caused the tag in the first place. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:22, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I don't understand what you're getting confused with. Take {{p|Froakie}}. The page is currently 17,685 bytes. When it was created it was 3,083 bytes. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:38, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Apparently I'm blind and can only see red or green text and not black text. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 20:26, 26 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Backtracking for items ==<br />
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How many items must require backtracking to an area in order to give that area its own backtracking section in a walkthrough? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:01, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:If there's anything to backtrack for it's worth noting. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:38, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::So if Route 214 has a rare candy that requires surf then it gets its own section? Or do I just give each HM a table with all the backtrack-obtainable items? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 06:27, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I suppose since the walkthroughs tend to go into detail, it should be more of specific text than bare bones table. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:37, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Can I use the itlist templates and put the specific stuff in there? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 14:41, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I don't know. Just get it out there, probably try to follow any examples for other backtracking, and if it can be improved it will be sooner or later. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:50, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== SM101 Collective Nouns ==<br />
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Collective nouns alone are always singular: one duo, two duos; one pair, two pairs. [[User:Monchi132390|Monchi132390]] ([[User talk:Monchi132390|talk]]) 16:35, 26 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I'm mostly gonna keep this simple. On [[SM101]], things like "The duo '''is''' pleased" just sound wrong.<br />
:Beyond that, refer to https://www.dictionary.com/e/collective-nouns/ . The short version is, your "rule", by virtue of its inflexibility, is wrong. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:39, 27 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items|USUM Fashion items]] complete ==<br />
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I am done computing the new item and price totals for [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items|USUM fashion items]], which brings my working subpage to completion for your review. In summary, the following still needs to be done before these tables can be finally incorporated into [[Fashion item]]:<br />
* The [[Template:Fashion/header|Fashion/header]] and [[Template:Fashion/footer|Fashion/footer]] templates need to be updated to match my [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/headerUSUM|Fashion/headerUSUM]] and [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/footerUSUM|Fashion/footerUSUM]] templates, so I ask you whether I can directly update both templates (given that they are being transcluded only on one article, the server will only need to refresh that article so I don’t think there will be significant server stress) or leave the matter to you (as the original author of the templates).<br />
* I seek approval to mainspace my [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/s2|Fashion/s2]] row template, which is required to properly display items with dual game-dependent pricing (namely, the Water Shoes, Trekking Shoes, Nylon Backpack, Nylon Shoulder Bag, Baseball Cap, and Casual Cap, which had no price in {{gameabbrev7|SM}} because of their default availability but must now be purchased in {{gameabbrev7|USUM}}).<br />
* We still need to settle on whether to use the dividers (handled by my [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/divider|Fashion/middle]] template) or the {{sup/7|USUM}} superscripts (already incorporated into my [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/su|Fashion/su]] row template). If we keep the dividers and drop the sups, then only Fashion/middle will need to be mainspaced (<del>and possibly</del>just renamed to Fashion/divider which I believe is a more fitting name); if, on the other hand, we drop the dividers and keep the sups, then only Fashion/su will need approval (with a possible renaming).<br />
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Apart from all that, my work is done: the tables are complete and the item/price tallies are also complete. I look forward for your permissions and approvals before proceeding to update the article itself. --[[User:SilSinn9801|''<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 04:04, 30 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== New vandal ==<br />
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Hey, heads up. {{user|Mckenzie6361}} has quite the talk page going on here. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 02:33, 2 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== LGPE on [[list of moves]] ==<br />
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A lot of people out there would like to see a list of moves that have been included/excluded from LGPE, and move availability between generations (eg Precipice Blades in ORAS but not XY) have already been noted on the table. If the way I did it looks too weird, do you have a better idea of how to approach it? (eg separate table/article, use of categories) [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 21:19, 4 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:The notes for ORAS/etc are really not about "availability" in a sense that would extend to LGPE. The list is supposed to inform you of when a move was introduced. Before LGPE, yes, this basically meant you knew what games a move was in, but that's more a byproduct than a specific intention for the list.<br />
:If you would like to create a userpage for the moves in LGPE, we may consider mainspacing it, but I think the putting them all in a category may be sufficient. (I want to say it's simpler too, but I guess it's not, as far as editing each of those pages. So emphasis on "I think", I guess, but for the moment I'm feeling categories.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:11, 5 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items|USUM Fashion items]] complete 2 ==<br />
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Have you taken time to read [[#USUM Fashion items complete|my posting above]] regarding [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items|USUM Fashion items]]? At least four things still need to be done (all of them itemized in the [[#USUM Fashion items complete|talk section above the section above this one]], because I don’t want to repeat them here) before the final updated tables can be incorporated into the [[Fashion item|final article itself]]. You seem to have taken time to make minor edits and reversals on other articles, but no time to review my updated tables and, most importantly, answer me the latest questions I posted on your talk page. I know being an admin is no easy job, especially when you are not earning a paycheck for doing this ''(everyone here is practically doing unpaid volunteer work, even myself!)'' --[[User:SilSinn9801|''<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 06:06, 5 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Honestly, from what I took from the tables I originally saw, the ''only'' thing that "needs" updating is the "SM"/"S"/"M" headers. The only reason I haven't given you a proper answer is because you introduced all these other templates/questions and I was partially confused that you think so much else might need updating/a "decision". (Which is to say, I haven't processed each of your suggestions enough to give you specific answers for each.)<br />
:More importantly, though, I've also been asked to consider images in the template. Adding images to the template or the page is not exactly solved simply. There are so many images that any solution kind of has non-trivial downsides. I thought I might be able to get to it sooner (for more than just theorizing), but I partly had other templates with more priority that took up the time I did have earlier. I now have time, but it's not likely to be done in the next hour. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:11, 5 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
::'''''Weekly update:''''' Have you taken enough time to examine my work and come up with proper/&#x200b;specific answers to my five or so questions? --[[User:SilSinn9801|''<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 05:14, 12 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
::Just to let you know, I just renamed my divider template to [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/divider]] (from [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/middle&redirect=no User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/middle]). I noticed that you have [[User:Tiddlywinks/Fashion|your own prototypical draft page]] with images for fashion items. But it still does not include the USUM items. Where did you get those images? Did you create them yourself? Are there similar images for the USUM-exclusive items that I could add to [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items|my own draft area]] while we still debate the unfinished debate? &#x200b;‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 18:03, 13 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::I'm going to try to just keep this simple. I'm just looking at [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items]] (where I don't really see anything that can't fundamentally be done with the existing mainspace templates) and critiquing from there.<br />
:::General note 1: Don't use tt anywhere.<br />
:::General note 2: Don't use italics for any part of any location except for "Default"<br />
:::As for updating [[Fashion item]], then...<br />
:::Update part 1: Please add the USUM-exclusive items at the bottom of each table. (All you need for a "divider" is a simple new row, like below.)<br />
<pre>|-<br />
| colspan="7" | '''Tops exclusive to {{gameabbrev7|USUM}}'''</pre><br />
:::Update part 2: Please add the USUM data for the select items that are default in SM but buyable in USUM (such as Water Shoes). All that is needed for these items is to give them a row for each game, one with the item name marked {{sup/7|SM}}, and the other marked {{sup/7|USUM}}.<br />
:::I have updated the one template that needed it, and those updates should suffice for the rest. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:31, 13 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::The footer template also needs updating, since I am distinguishing USUM-default items with a different dagger (‡ instead of the † used for SM-default ones) which needs to be incorporated into the template. I cannot simply reuse † for USUM items, otherwise one can get the false impression that it is also default in SM which is false. Also, if TT cannot be used, then we must find some other superscripted symbol to denote white items that can be dyed (not all white items can be dyed) in lieu of a tooltip. For the divider (which I had renamed as I said before), using raw wikicode instead of a template would make the table code internally inconsistent, which is why I requested approval of at least Fashion/divider. (Based on your other suggestions, I could do away with Fashion/s2 & Fashion/su, but first I must update my tables before I request their deletion.) As for images, do you have images for USUM-exclusive items? Because if you already settled on how to display images in the fashion tables, it would be a good idea to incorporate them right away. &#x200b;‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 19:57, 13 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::I updated again my proposed [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/footerUSUM|Fashion/footer]] template by adding a fourth parameter used to display an asterisk I chose to designate white colors that can be dyed (replacing the tooltips). So PLEASE give the footers in my just-updated [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items|fashion item tables]] a new look and reconsider your decision regarding the official [[Template:Fashion/footer|Fashion/footer]] template (I insist it must be updated). Also check the way I handled the "dual-priced" items (Water Shoes ''et al'') using the current [[Template:Fashion/s|Fashion/s]] template (I used a strategy similar to that done for Sporty Tanks and other items with names spanning more than one row; the only drawback is that the color word ''Custom'' shows up twice, but that is better than displaying item names twice). &#x200b;‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 21:51, 13 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::::It doesn't make any sense that someone would think a USUM-exclusive item would be a default in SM.<br />
:::::Dyed items are not a ''major'' concern on the fashion items page. The only place I'd say they ''really'' need noting is on Festival Plaza with the dye houses. As it stands, the mention they are given near the top on the fashion item page is plenty.<br />
:::::"Inconsistency" is not a great worry. Creating templates that do barely anything and have very narrow use is worse. Writing it out is absolutely fine.<br />
:::::There are two basic options here. '''You''' already did the work first. Either I can update everything at once and the History will contain no credit related to the work you've already done, or you can update the page for USUM. I don't ''know'' that you want credit...so I guess tell me now: shall I do it all, or shall you do a part?<br />
:::::As regards your template for the "dual-priced" items, I'll just tell you simply: I don't like it. If I decide I want to do something else, I can whip something up easily, but right now I'd really just prefer having the page updated using the (quite adequate) tools we already have at our disposal. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:09, 13 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::::<blockquote>“It doesn't make any sense that someone would think a USUM-exclusive item would be a default in SM.”</blockquote><br />
::::::Maybe I should’ve said the other way around: an SM-original item marked with † (with no further note that it is worn by default only in {{gameabbrev7|SM}}) would lead one to falsely believe that it is also worn by default in {{gameabbrev7|USUM}}, which led me to introduce the other dagger ‡ to make the distinction clear in the footer between items worn by default in SM and those worn by default in USUM. If you are unwilling to update the footer, then maybe I can update it myself with no questions asked, given that it is being transcluded only in three pages (unlike usertags which are being used in dozens or even hundreds of pages), so the server won’t severely stress out.<br />
::::::The current divider is no longer simply a single-cell row, but is now a five-cell row (that is, if you really gave it a close look); if you are unwilling to approve its template, then maybe I can ask another admin (like [[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> or even your senior superior, [[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]]) to do so.<br />
::::::And whether I want credit or not: '''OF COURSE I WANT'''; after all those scoldings and hard-learned lessons, why forfeit credit? I just want permission to update the footer and approval to templatespace the divider template before I finally update the official article myself. As for the images, I leave that matter to you because I honestly don’t like to handle images (especially when I have no autoconfirmed status in the Archives). &#x200b;‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 22:35, 13 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Let me try to be a little direct with you.<br />
:::::::What I want right now is the page updated with what we have and, frankly, how I want it so that I can then look over it and more directly decide if there ''is'' anything I want to change. Frankly, if you hadn't done significant work, I would simply be doing everything how I thought was needed and moving forward on my own. But instead I feel obligated (to an extent, at least) to try to respond to you and let you make the update. Which you aren't doing...and that's honestly pretty frustrating to me at the moment. (Patience is not necessarily my strong suit, and if you want to keep putting it off, I foresee myself running out of it before all too long.)<br />
:::::::With that off my chest for now...<br />
:::::::...Let me say this. The things you want can still be addressed after you update the page as I've requested. And it would help me a lot if I can look at the page directly and consider what I see versus what you want.<br />
:::::::I can respond to your questions. But for now I want to leave off with that plea. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:21, 13 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Because you never approved the divider template, I reverted to marking USUM-exclusive items with {{sup/7|USUM}} because I dislike seeing table sources haphazardly mixing beautiful template transclusions with pure, raw, ugly wikicode that would have only made the page source aesthetically more ugly (and less understandable to novice wiki editors) and more expensive in terms of byte storage (and I stress this as a former C++/Java student programmer, where both code efficiency and aesthetics are paramount). And because I am afraid that, if I let you put everything there yourself, you would later protect the page from further edits, I resorted to provisionally plugging there everything, along with a little “protest note” in the page-edit history (not in the article itself — that would be rude, plus any disputes should be kept away from article content so that innocent page visitors and source viewers remain oblivious of our misunderstandings) explaining the sore need to update the footer template. Whenever someone approves the divider template, then I would remove the {{sup/7|USUM}} from item names and plug the divider transclusion there. That is all and enjoy your rest; now I leave to finish my copy of {{gameabbrev7|UM}}. &#x200b;‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 23:52, 13 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Usability beats a little bit of storage any day. But I realized a better reason for altogether forgoing a divider: the tables are sortable, and a divider just doesn't work with sorting. (At this point, I'd still rather something that stands out a little better, but I'm not going to agonize over it.)<br />
:::::::::FWIW I am also updating the footer (but not the same as your template did it). I don't like so many different notations, but I feel that it is indeed more appropriate due to the lack of a divider at this point.<br />
:::::::::Otherwise, it doesn't sound to me like you wish to converse any more, so I will proceed on my own. If you have any issues, I would appreciate you bringing them up here before trying to force it on the page. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:42, 14 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::If you want USUM-exclusive items to stand out a little better (and {{sup/7|USUM}} isn’t enough), then I would suggest modifying [[Template:Fashion/s]] to allow one to tweak the row’s background color, as long as the text in it is still legible. That was an idea that came to my mind when I had made Fashion/su, but for some reason didn’t do it, and since I already requested the deletion of that Fashion/su template thinking that we had agreed on using a divider (which now is false for the sortability reason you pointed out), I am not going to meddle with it anymore. Whether you want to add that parameter for background color, it’s up to you (and same for Fashion item images, for which you did create five new templates), but now I move on to other topics — my work on Fashion items is done and I am already tired for today. The ball is now in your court. ''Thankee!'' Bye. &#x200b;‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 01:17, 14 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokémon Let's Go fashion items ==<br />
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After all this contentious discussion about {{gameabbrev7|USUM}} [[Fashion item]]s, something came to my mind: I don’t see anyone doing stuff related to {{gameabbrev7|PE}} fashion items (or clothing, or apparel, or whatever they are called). And because I don’t play any Let’s Go title (for the [[User:SilSinn9801#Not Considering to Play|reasons pointed out in my userpage]]), I will not worry about this matter. And because [[Pressure (ability)|your mind must be right now]] on incorporating images into the USUM fashion item tables, I will not bother you with this but rather let someone else (preferably someone with hands-on experience in playing PE) [[Head Smash (move)|break his/her head]] on this. &#x200b;‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 01:26, 14 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== As a final note... ==<br />
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...given that you are an admin, you should protect your userpage (like [[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] has done) from unwanted edits by unscrupulous users (or their sockpuppets, if any) or anyone who might hold a {{m|Grudge}} against you. It is standard practice for wiki admins. (Myself, I am an admin of a [https://river-monsters.wikia.com/wiki/User:SilSinn9801 Wikia-hosted wiki on the TV show River Monsters], and the very first advice I got after being promoted to admin, which was not long ago, was to protect my userpage.) &#x200b;‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 02:29, 14 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Battle Mode (Colosseum) Page ==<br />
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I'm going to try to adhere to protocol this time: I have the data from my previous editing of the Battle Mode (Colosseum) page (which does differ from the Battle Now page). I believe I am to ask an administrator such as yourself about if you can create that page that I would be able to edit and contribute. If I need to go about this differently, ask from a different spot than your user talk page, etc., please let me know. Thank you very much. [[User:ScottOshawott|ScottOshawott]] ([[User talk:ScottOshawott|talk]]) 00:21, 15 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:It's fine to ask a staff member directly. And yes, you can create the Battle Mode page. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:45, 15 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
::Perfect, thank you so much for your help (and your patience).[[User:ScottOshawott|ScottOshawott]] ([[User talk:ScottOshawott|talk]]) 05:33, 15 January 2019 (UTC)</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Battle_Mode_(Colosseum)&diff=2913033Battle Mode (Colosseum)2019-01-15T03:32:43Z<p>ScottOshawott: Formatting for page, addition of links for in-depth coverage for Colosseum Battle and Battle Now</p>
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<div>'''Battle Mode''' is one of the two halves of {{g|Colosseum}}. Unlike the Story Mode of Colosseum, Battle Mode focuses solely on Pokémon Battles, similar to the [[Pokémon Stadium series|Pokémon Stadium games]].<br />
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==Overview==<br />
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Battle Mode consists of two options: [[Colosseum Battle (Colosseum)|Colosseum Battle]] and [[Battle Now (Colosseum)|Battle Now]]. Colosseum Battle provides various challenges for players, while also allowing for battles between the RPG and/or the [[Game Boy Advance]] games. The challenges consist of a more difficult version of the [[Mt. Battle]] 100-Trainer Challenge, as well as several Stadiums with various difficulties and restrictions on what the levels of the Pokémon used can be (either Lv. 50 or Lv. 100). Both the Mt. Battle challenge and the Stadium challenges reward players with [[Poké Coupon]]s, which can be used to exchange for various items.<br />
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Battle Now, on the other hand, allows for quick play by providing one to two players with one of several rental teams to face off against each other (against a CPU, in the case one one player). Four difficulties are available (Easy, Normal, Hard, or Ultimate), as well as the option to conduct either Single or Double Battles.<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
*The in-game picture for Battle Mode depicts {{p|Latios}} and {{p|Blaziken}}, despite the fact that neither of these Pokémon are obtainable in Colosseum.<br />
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[[Category:Pokémon Colosseum]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tiddlywinks/Archive_4&diff=2912987User talk:Tiddlywinks/Archive 42019-01-15T00:21:24Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* Battle Mode (Colosseum) Page */ new section</p>
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<div>;Archived talk<br />
* [[User talk:Tiddlywinks/Archive 1]] (through Sept 14, 2014)<br />
* [[User talk:Tiddlywinks/Archive 2]] (through Nov 5, 2015)<br />
* [[User talk:Tiddlywinks/Archive 3]] (through Feb 22, 2017)<br />
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== Radiant Sun/Full Moon ==<br />
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Why do we have the Radiant Sun and Full Moon forms on Solgaleo/Lunala's pages and the form differences page? When I added Reshiram's and Zekrom's active forms to their pages it was removed because they aren't counted in the Pokédex like Xerneas's neutral mode, but yet Radiant Sun and Full Moon forms are also not counted in the Pokédex, yet are on their pages. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 15:06, 24 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:In Solgaleo/Lunala's case, [http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pokemon/ the official site] called them forms. (Whether that should be OK may be arguable.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:05, 24 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Ah, that makes sense. Thanks. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 16:12, 24 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::Adding on, there are some Pokémon who have form differences recognized by the Pokédex but yet don't have their forms in the box at the top of the page (eg Furfrou). Should they be added? --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 14:28, 6 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Rotom is basically the high end of what we're willing to accomodate in the infobox. If there is a ''strongly'' compelling reason in the future, we might consider more, but something like Furfrou is simply impractical and relatively trivial&mdash;little benefit to worry about including it. It's fine with a gallery. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:39, 6 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Your help ==<br />
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..was unexpected in both "I didn't expect you to help" and "Why exactly did you do [[Special:Diff/2604502|that]]" kind of way. So, thanks for the former, but for the latter, was that more an "oh my Nesci now just get over that class=expandable thing its bad nobody wants that", or rather an "i still have javascript disabled so i must've cleaned up and nothing more ♪♫♪♫"? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 10:25, 26 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:It took me a bit to parse your actual question here...but yes, I don't enable Javascript if I don't need it, and all I saw was apparently pointless HTML tags in the diff. I might've said about as much except I try not to sound too much like an ass (because sometimes people just don't know), so instead of writing something like, "That's weird yo", I just simplified the reason very, very basically.<br />
:That said, the first table is '''super''' short, collapsing it seems a bit pointless. In fact, actually reading that one, IMO it'd be better to just make those nested bullet points instead of a whole table (like [[Experience#Gain formula]]); or just nest the technical note about Gen I-II specifically. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:56, 26 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Um, sorry for being cryptic, I thought you'd remember we already talked about that. Yo.<br />
::Thanks for the nested bullet points idea, sounds good, I'll try to see how that might work out. But for the ''other'' table, you accidently removed the expandable part (more or less), there wasn't a hidden anti-javascript agenda or something, right? (I know that HTML tags look weird&mdash;it's a workaround because for some reason, using * will always push everything down to the next line; so I'd prefer to restore that.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:04, 26 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::Hiding the ''entire'' table isn't generally the smart thing in any case. If you're going to collapse a table, you can generally just do it right on the table in question. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:23, 26 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Z-Moves ==<br />
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I made a template at [[User:Celadonkey/Template:Z-Moves]] to assist with accessibility for Z-Move pages, similar to the "Variations of _" on a lot of move pages. I was wondering if it's ok for me to mainspace it and put it on all the Z-Move pages. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 18:05, 26 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Lemme just ask, do you care if I (fairly) radically change the style and then mainspace it? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:30, 2 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::No, I don't mind. Go ahead! --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 01:38, 3 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::It looks awesome, thanks man. But I really think that having an MS for the species Z-Moves would be beneficial. Is there any way we can still implement it? --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 14:55, 3 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::They are pretty. But they make that part relatively big too. I don't think it's so bad since it's all summarized on the [[Z-Move]] page too already. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:59, 3 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==Aether House==<br />
If you don't like my edit, find some other way to deal with '''misleading''' information that could give people the wrong idea of when Porygon could be collect. I am stating this from an intelligent standpoint, not to show any rudeness. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 19:37, 26 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Never mind, did not see that. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 19:51, 26 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==RE:Moving pages==<br />
Can you move the page [[Gracidea (Sinnoh)]] to [[Gracidea Garden]]. After duscussion and waiting a long time, other users agreed and no one opposed the move. See [[Talk:Gracidea (Sinnoh)]] for further details. Or can you contact an Editorial Board member, as said on the [[Bulbapedia:Editorial Board]] page. [[User:Jeangabin666|Jeangabin666]] ([[User talk:Jeangabin666|talk]]) 19:18, 28 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Verity Lakefront ==<br />
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You changed [[Verity Lakefront]]'s text box back to a default text box after I changed it to a route text box. It is stated in the [[list of routes]] on Bulbapedia that the [[Sinnoh]] lakefronts are routes. It even says on the [[lakefront]] page of Bulbapedia that the lakefronts are routes. The three lakefronts are routes, thus deserving a route text box. --[[User:RedHailfire|RedHailfire]] ([[User talk:RedHailfire|talk]]) 22:07, 2 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:"List of routes" is not the criteria for deciding whether a location should have a "route" infobox. I'd be hard pressed to define exactly what those criteria are because there ''are'' a few places that are not numbered routes where we use a route infobox (and I'm OK with those), but if you want me to, I can try to figure out what the specifics are/should be. For now, though, please trust me that the lakefronts are regular locations, not routes. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:24, 2 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::The [[lakefront]] page also states that these areas are [[route]]s. Also, if these lakefronts don't get route infoboxes, then why does [[Spring Path]] get a route infobox? The lakefronts are much more like routes, for most of the lakefronts actually have [[tall grass]]. Spring Path is such an obscure location. --[[User:RedHailfire|RedHailfire]] ([[User talk:RedHailfire|talk]]) 22:33, 2 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::To attempt some loose/theoretical explanations, "Spring '''Path'''" closely suggests something like a route, so it was perhaps easy to just put Route infobox there. A "lakefront" sounds more like a simple location, however.<br />
:::This is not strictly justification, but, again, explanation for the current state of things (i.e., a basic answer to your "why"). The presence or absence of tall grass also doesn't really make or break a route, because plenty of locations (like the lakes themselves) have grass, and some routes don't (e.g., [[Kalos Route 1]]).<br />
:::Sort of like I said above, it may be that we should solidify some criteria for what locations deserve Route infobox and which ones deserve Infobox location.<br />
:::Let me ask (and try to answer this as earnestly as you can): why exactly did you change the template? Was it strictly because there was a '''route''' infobox template, and those pages weren't using it even though that's what you thought they were? Or was it more because you wanted to see the connecting locations like routes show them (and thankfully for you, the lakefronts are identified as "routes" in some places)? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:50, 2 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Another path in [[Sinnoh]], called [[Seabreak Path]], is a path and is considered a [[route]], similar to [[Spring Path]], yet Seakbreak Path doesn't get a route infobox. Seabreak Path is also on the [[list of routes]] here on Bulbapedia. I may fix the infobox later, since Seabreak Path is considered a route and a "path." I adjusted the [[lakefront]] infoboxes purely because the lakefronts are considered routes, and route infoboxes belong to routes. It makes sense to give a route an infobox literally called a "route infobox." I thought it was just common knowledge. --[[User:RedHailfire|RedHailfire]] ([[User talk:RedHailfire|talk]]) 00:55, 3 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::I also wasn't suggesting that '''all''' routes have [[tall grass]], but most of them do. --[[User:RedHailfire|RedHailfire]] ([[User talk:RedHailfire|talk]]) 00:58, 3 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::The contrast of Spring Path and Seabreak Path perhaps gives you your best answer: there probably wasn't any rigorous thought about it all. This is a public wiki. It can be easy for certain "habits" to start small and slowly spread, very possibly via different people, and without perfect rhyme/reason. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:08, 3 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::Do you approve of my change of the [[Seabreak Path]] infobox? --[[User:RedHailfire|RedHailfire]] ([[User talk:RedHailfire|talk]]) 01:22, 3 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I'm basically leaving it all alone at the moment. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:23, 3 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Another template I thought might be useful ==<br />
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I'm not sure if there's a need for it, but I made a template [[User:Celadonkey/Template:Spritebox/MS/1]] for menusprites to be used in the sprites section of a Pokemon. I was thinking there would be another for Gen IV, Gen V, Gen VI, and Gen VII Pokemon. This one would be used for Gen 1-3 Pokemon. Is there any that needs to be changed and would there be a need for it in the mainspace? --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 21:44, 4 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I just realized... Would there be any way to do Gen I and Gen II menu sprites? I know that there are just general sprites like "Ball" and "Quadruped". --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 22:00, 4 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Just so you both know, the old menu sprites and their Pokémon are listed [[User:SnorlaxMonster/Original era menu sprites|here]]. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 22:26, 4 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::This is awesome! I'll try to add this in. {{unsigned|Celadonkey}}<br />
::::All updated! Thanks. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 23:53, 4 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::Maybe.<br />
:::::One problem about the template is that it basically requires changing when there's a new generation, when it's generally been our goal recently to avoid that in templates with such wide use as all Pokemon.<br />
:::::You can keep it around, but it's not something that can be signed off on easily given its wide effect. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:58, 5 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::True, true. Is there any way I can rework this so that it would not have that problem? --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 18:23, 5 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::If you want to try, you're welcome to. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:34, 5 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Alright, but how would I go about doing that? --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 18:59, 5 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::I don't know how much you know about templates, but if you need to, I'd suggest checking out your welcome template links or introductions on Wikipedia or elsewhere. Then, you can try looking at what we do with other templates that are designed to avoid this, like dex, availability, and sprites on Pokemon pages.<br />
:::::::::Beyond that, I don't know how to tell you exactly what to do without just as well doing it myself (which I won't). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:21, 5 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::I had an idea... What if there were templates for each box I already have (for example, a Gen I menu sprite template) and then those templates would be put together on a "master template" of sorts to be used on the Pokémon's page to make the full chart? This way, instead of all of the templates being modified every time a new generation comes, the sub templates would be adjusted appropriately, or if a new gen has completely new menu sprites, a new sub template would be created and added to the master template. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 15:44, 6 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}} Actually, it might be a better idea to build the sub-templates on the Pokémon page itself instead of using a master template, because with a master template, we'd need different master templates depending on the game the Pokémon was introduced in - a different template would be needed for Bulbasaur and Dedenne, if that makes any sense. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 15:56, 6 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Does this count? ==<br />
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I found a way to make Rockruff's Pokédex Entry from the anime Japanese. The translation in also there. does this count? {{unsigned|Hamfart}}<br />
:I don't think we add dex entries until they're dubbed. On that understanding, I don't think it should be added.<br />
:However, I don't really know the anime. You may wish to direct your question to a staff member who's more familiar instead. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:08, 7 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Archives ==<br />
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Am I allowed to move my archive back to my own page? I archived my talk page for no reason and want it back to my regular talk page. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 22:24, 9 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:If your new page hadn't really been touched, that might be an interesting question, but since it has, it's kind of too late to ask. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:28, 9 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Oh, rats. So I can't copy the code from the archive and place it at the top of my talk page? --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 22:42, 9 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::That entirely defeats the purpose of maintaining the history. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:44, 9 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Ah, alright. Thanks anyways. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 22:52, 9 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Weather Trio ==<br />
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The page [[Weather trio]] should be moved to Super-ancient Pokémon, an official term. It's been discussed on the talk page since early 2015, but we haven't gotten any response from the staff, but yet... Ataro has made a page [[Super-ancient Pokémon (Adventures)]]. Can it be moved? --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 13:51, 14 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:It sounds to me like you want to talk to Ataro rather than me. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:31, 15 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::I dunno, I know that the comics are Ataro's thing and this isn't really a comics thing. I may bring it up to SnorlaxMonster, or someone. Thanks for the help. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 02:00, 15 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Gen VII Images ==<br />
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Hey, I was wondering about how to upload images to the [[Bulbagarden Archives|Archives]]. I have a few images for moves from [[Generation VII]], and I am unable to upload them to the Archives. It says I'm not yet a confirmed user. I saw that you are active on the Archives, so I thought that you might know how to upload these images. --[[User:RedHailfire|RedHailfire]] ([[User talk:RedHailfire|talk]]) 03:41, 23 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:The Archives has an {{bp|autoconfirmed}} status similar to Bulbapedia. The long and short of it is, if you look around (which may not be an entirely trivial task, but also isn't impossible), you should be able to find some things you can edit/improve on the Archives to earn that status and be able to make uploads.<br />
:That said, do be aware that, in order to upload images from 3DS games, you [[a:Archives:Messages from the Council#November 9|have to have permission]] first. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:45, 23 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Which page to put name locations on ==<br />
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Hey there! You recently reverted an edit I did to the Gen II base stats structure page, citing that information of default names for Pokémon doesn't fit there (presumably as it's not part of the 32-byte structure). So as not to get in an edit war, I figure we'll hash it out before doing anything. I'd argue it ''does'' fit on the base stats structure page, as it - as all the other properties on the page - is something common to and used for all Pokémon of the species. I'd go as far as to say the page shouldn't be about one single data structure (which the page title doesn't really imply, after all), but rather the how base stats of the Pokémon are stored in general.<br />
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Putting it on the character encoding page, as you suggested, makes no sense at all: the name data has nothing to do with the encoding of the characters at all, and isn't used in any related contexts. Seeing as the name data is used when creating a Pokémon and on summary screens, just like the rest of the base statistics... I'd say that's the best place. Not putting it anywhere isn't an option either, as that'd simply be withholding potentially useful information, which we of course don't want to do. What do you think? [[User:LpSamuelm|LpSamuelm]] ([[User talk:LpSamuelm|talk]]) 23:27, 30 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Like you say: the list of names is very plainly a '''very''' different thing from the list of base stats. You're grasping at reasons to shoehorn that list into the page, when the only truly logical approach is to limit it to a single, readily identifiable structure. Based on what you're saying, we may as well have Gen III's base stats structure and Pokedex data structures on the same page; they're at least based on the same indices, which is ''basically'' equivalent to your argument for the list of names.<br />
:The best thing you could really argue for would perhaps be a ''different'' page altogether, one that could reasonably mention all the data relating to species. That seems like a bit of a weird idea to me, though, so I'm very unsure how such a page would be made, personally.<br />
:Anyway, I don't see the base stats structure page as being an appropriate place for it at all. If you have any better suggestions, I'm all ears. I'm basically okay with just saying it fits nowhere and removing it altogether if you think that's best, too. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:13, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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::Sorry, I don't at all follow your extrapolation here. Not sure where the "like you say" part comes from, either - I'm not "grasping", it's quite logical. Here's an a bit more structured summary of how and why they strongly relate:<br />
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::* The "base stats" for a Pokémon is data that's used in any combination of a few ways. Not all of them have to be true for a point of data to be considered "base stats", as is apparent from their inclusion in the main structure. The ways are:<br />
::** '''Informing choices when constructing a Pokémon''' (wild held item, gender ratio)<br />
::** '''Basic, unchanging values for how the Pokémon acts''' (types, base stats, egg cycles, dimensions of sprite, growth rate, egg groups, TM/HM flags, catch rate, Exp. yield)<br />
::** '''Basic, unchanging values used on the Pokémon's summary screen''' (types, base stats, dimensions of sprite)<br />
::** And yes, even '''used in the species's Pokédex entry''': the sprite dimensions byte.<br />
::* In comparison, the default name of a Pokémon is used in the following ways:<br />
::** '''Informing choices when constructing a Pokémon''' - all wild Pokémon get their names from the list.<br />
::** '''Basic, unchanging value for how the Pokémon acts''' - if the Pokémon's name differs from the species, it is considered nicknamed, which has an effect when the Pokémon was received in a trade.<br />
::** '''Basic, unchanging value displayed on the Pokémon's summary screen''' - the species name is simply displayed under the nickname.<br />
::** In addition, it is just like the sprite dimension byte '''used in the species's Pokédex entry'''.<br />
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::That's 4/4 of the purposes filled.<br />
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::It's not really possible to, as you did, extrapolate my argument to combining the Pokédex data (which I was looking at just earlier today for Gen II; should make a nice new page) page with the base stats structure page, as the Pokédex data has no actual impact on the Pokémon. If you edit the Pokédex data, all Pokémon of that species look and act the same, with no difference even to the summary screen. Of course, as I mentioned, "removing it altogether" is ''not an option'' - skipping out on providing real information, even if it were to prevent meta-level "shoehorning" (which I really do contest), goes against the very purpose of a wiki. [[User:LpSamuelm|LpSamuelm]] ([[User talk:LpSamuelm|talk]]) 01:43, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::You're talking about base stats as a very abstract concept.<br />
:::The page [[Pokémon base stats data structure in Generation II]] is explicitly about a specific structure, about a contiguous set of data (a list) with entries corresponding to different Pokemon.<br />
:::The list of names is a WHOLLY different list. It's not logical to conflate both of those things on a page called "Pokémon base stats data structure". It's TWO structures.<br />
:::[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:52, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::: They're two different contiguous data masses in memory, sure, but they're used in the same contexts. I say "Pokémon base stats data structure" can just as well mean "the structure of Pokémon base stats" (which may well include "the data is structured as part of these two parts of memory") as it can, as you assume, "this specific contiguous structure type in memory". Very logical, all in all.<br />
:::: Really - the page in question is the absolute best fit for information on this, hands-down. I'd say it's a really good fit, but even if you don't agree with ''that'', you'd be hard pressed to find a page where it would fit better. [[User:LpSamuelm|LpSamuelm]] ([[User talk:LpSamuelm|talk]]) 02:03, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::The page isn't about context. It's about a specific data structure. The one on the page. Not the list of names.<br />
:::::...I'll go ahead and ask (even though the answer would seem obvious if you're delving this stuff at all): Do you have any experience with computer programming? Because as someone who does, I can tell you, the page title just is NOT interpretable the way you want it to be. (And those pages are by their very nature incredibly technical, meaning that is the most reasonable way to interpret it.) It's one structure. Not anything kinda with the same feel. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:10, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::Yes, I am a programmer. And I really, really, don't appreciate the condescending tone you're taking. That someone doesn't agree with you does ''not'' mean they don't understand. Frankly, the fact that you choose to ask despite saying "the answer would seem obvious" tells me the entire point of the question is to be condescending, which... well, I'm not going to dignify that with further argument.<br />
::::::Now that that's out of the way: I'm definitely qualified to say that yes, it is interpretable that way. Obviously it is, since I'm interpreting that way. It seems to be subjective, though, since you don't agree - you're taking it as a "data structure" (as what you'd call a struct in C, for example), but seeing as the page is called "Pokémon base stats data structure" and not "'''The''' Pokémon base stats data structure", it may just as well be taken as "the structure of Pokémon base stats data".<br />
::::::You seem to be dodging a certain question a bit: what page makes for a better fit than that one? [[User:LpSamuelm|LpSamuelm]] ([[User talk:LpSamuelm|talk]]) 02:23, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I absolutely don't claim to always be the most politic, but I certainly don't mean to be condescending. Mostly I'm just frustrated by your views when it seems so obvious to me. I'm sorry if that comes off wrong.<br />
:::::::I'm not dodging any question: I ''put'' it where it better belongs. (As you said, you disagree. I guess I didn't see any point in going into that part more; I wanted to focus on what I ''expected'' would be a more fruitful direction...) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:33, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::So, first of all - how come you get to decide where it "better belongs"? Probably because you're a junior admin, huh.<br />
::::::::In any case, I definitely oppose it being on the character encoding page. The character encoding is used for the names, sure, but it's also used for ''everything else'' in the game. If you put info on the species names there, why not put info on all the locations and structure of dialogue? For the Pokédex descriptions? For the list of items, the list of moves, the list of abilities, the list of trainer types? Because the contents of those have nothing to do with the character encoding except being encoded with it, just like the list of species names. [[User:LpSamuelm|LpSamuelm]] ([[User talk:LpSamuelm|talk]]) 07:38, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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{{indent}}Like I said right off the bat...if you want to offer a third solution for where it belongs, I'm all ears. When people have differing opinions, that sort of thing is ''always'' a great option if at all possible. You've spent a lot of bytes trying to "prove" your opinion above when I already suggested to you a third option. By all means, try creating some user page to try to address it. I certainly see the point of your complaint; ''I'm'' not perfectly happy with it either, but it's better than the only other alternative currently. I would be very happy to have a third option. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:13, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::And what I'm trying to do is convince you that no, making a separate page is not reasonable at this time (which you've said yourself). However, it is much more reasonable to have it on the page where I put it than on the character encoding page. Do I simply not have a say in the whole thing? You moved it elsewhere, making my initial placement an impossibility? Is that really how it is? [[User:LpSamuelm|LpSamuelm]] ([[User talk:LpSamuelm|talk]]) 13:34, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::(Sorry to intrude on a talk page, but maybe it's helpful.) I think in an ideal world, we should have main "Data structures in Gen X" pages, with lots of sections that mostly link to the articles we already have, and with another section on the Pokémon names.<br />
:::(Also, if you're interested in a second opinion: I believe if we link to it from the Pokémon structure page (much like we currently do), it should be... fine. Regardless of who is staff and who is not, I believe there are good reasons to not include it on either page, though.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:26, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::It's rather curious, LpSamuelm: you think I'm being (more or less) tyrannical, when you're basically asking the same for yourself. Do *I* have no say against what you want? We're two people. We want exactly different things. There's no "winner" in that equation. There's no reason you're more right than I am except that you're sure you are. The idea that this makes me unreasonable or what-have-you is nonsensical.<br />
::::At any rate, I think we've pretty much reached the point where I ''am'' prepared to turn a little "tyrannical" and explicitly throw in the weight of my authority as a staff member. I've tried persuading you and I would have hoped you could see what was obvious to me; but I'm at a loss for what to do when you cannot see it, short of seeking staff opinion. "Luckily", I don't have to look far. =P This is truly what I think is best for the wiki:<br />
::::* The data structure pages should as a rule only describe one structure. That is how those pages should be; not how you want to interpret them.<br />
::::If you want to make a page that touches on more than one structure, get creative. Don't just say it's impossible. I'm '''certain''' you can make a page even if it looks a bit ridiculous. But you're not going to get anywhere so long as you keep thinking it's impossible and declining to even try.<br />
::::It may be important to note that my word is not ABSOLUTE law. To be sure, I have some authority which should be respected. However, there are also {{bp|staff|many people above me}} who you may appeal to if you ever think I (or someone else) am terribly wrong in anything.<br />
::::FWIW and perhaps obviously, I'd prefer if you just moved forward and either tried to work on a solution like I've suggested you can, or if you would just let it go and be productive in other ways. But I won't pretend there aren't other options. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:15, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokétch app icons ==<br />
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I get what you mean by your reasoning, but the thing is many [[Pokétch]] apps are already represented in the item lists of the locations they are obtained in by icons other than the Pokétch sprite, and have been so for years now. Some of them are icons of the Pokémon featured in their respective apps, so they make sense, but what I want to ask you now is that what do we do with this thing now? Do we replace all the app icons in item lists with the Pokétch icon, leave them how they are now and just try not to come up with any new ones, or something else? What do you think would be the best solution? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:49, 1 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I'm not entirely sure what to think of those placeholders. When I first saw what you added to [[Sunyshore City]] it just looked wrong. After you've pointed out everything else, I look at, say, [[Pal Park]], and it doesn't seem so bad.<br />
:But. There's also a simple enough solution. Just use the app images from the [[Pokétch]] page for the "sprites". Part of me was thinking for a while that that'd be best, if only! And then I realized we totally have those and we can. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:02, 1 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Template edit request ==<br />
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In [[SM004]], the [[Rotom Pokédex]] gives a ton of new entries. Besides the obvious Pokémon entries, I chose to add the descriptions it gave about catching Pokémon and Pokémon Centers as well. The first one already had an entry way back in [[EP001]], so it's already been taken care of. However, the entry for Pokémon Centers still has a red link. Could you edit the Pokédex template to remove the red link? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:03, 13 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:It appears to have been taken care of. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:29, 13 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Yup. {{user|Abcboy}} apparently took care of it before you could. BTW, as I checked out the Pokédex template out of sheer curiosity, I noticed a special entry tag (or whatever it should be called) reading "Togepi's power". I dug into Togepi's article history, and found out that that thing was used for Togepi's second AG entry at some point, but was already taken out in 2010, which was ages ago, but apparently the special note was never removed from the template. Just wondering that shouldn't something unnecessary like that be removed, even if it doesn't technically show up anywhere? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:05, 14 April 2017 (UTC)<br>PS. Is the "Purpose" part in the template the same thing as "Dexter (purpose)", in other words, repetition and thus unnecessary as well?<br />
:::The template is used on a large number of pages, editing it for something that's currently going to make zero difference isn't altogether wise, so for now it's just fine. (Try to always keep your signature last as well.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:25, 14 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Understood. Maybe next time it's really necessary to edit it, that can be done too. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:44, 14 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::Well, that time seems to be now. The newest dub episode has two double entries, and the template needs editing once again. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:32, 13 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::The next time you come upon a case that causes an explicit problem in a template like that, can I ask you to consider ''holding off'' on saving it with that problem? Try asking ''first'', so that you're not imposing a red link or something like that. Especially, there should REALLY be an option in {{template|Animedexbody}} that ''doesn't'' require updating such a heavily used template every time a new random odd case pops up. If we don't fix that soon, please try to keep that in mind and ask us BEFORE you use the template in an "unexpected" way again so that we can implement such a fix, which you can then freely use to use the template without problems.<br />
::::::Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:01, 13 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::So basically your point is, "Tell first, wait, and ''then'' edit". Gotcha. In that case, I'm now telling you ahead that I'm planning to split {{p|Yanma}}'s OS entry into the main entry and a section called "Yanma's attacks". Thanks. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:16, 14 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Thank you. I've updated the template. Where you'd put the 2nd parameter, you can now just put <code><nowiki>None|po={{p|Yanma}}'s attack</nowiki></code> (or whatever for anything else that pops up in the future). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:42, 14 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Thank you too. I've tested it out on Yanma's page, and it seems simple enough. So I was wondering, should ALL exceptions in Pokédex entries (i.e. all entries not about a Pokémon species) be replaced with this feature so that they don't need to be listed on the template itself, or should they just be left the way they are now? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:51, 17 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::You don't need to go out of your way, but if you're doing anything else at the same time and you want to redo it, feel free. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:13, 18 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Deletion ==<br />
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Would anyone know how to delete an account?[[User:Empoleon042806|Empoleon042806]] ([[User talk:Empoleon042806|talk]]) 15:08, 15 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I'm not sure if we can delete your account if that's what you want, but we could probably block it indefinitely if that aligns with whatever reason you want it deleted for. If you're perhaps dissatisfied with the name you chose, it can be changed once. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:19, 15 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Genderless vs. gender unknown ==<br />
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I can't find hide nor hair of the phrase "gender unknown" on any of our pages in regard to what you mentioned. If "gender unknown" is the new canonical term for it, shouldn't we change everything to use the correct term? If not, shouldn't [[cosmic duo]] use the same usage we use on every other page? Either way, we should be consistent with one term or the other, not a haphazard mishmash of whichever people feel like. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:19, 20 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I kind of meant you should talk about it "publicly" on the article's talk page, not come to me individually. I think that'd be more useful.<br />
:(FYI, one thing I didn't have space to write is that I'm not rightly sure what makes genderless canon as you claimed. If you can specify the sources you were thinking of, I'd love to know it. Again, though, I don't mean here.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:40, 20 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
::(The source I was relying on was... the fact that we use the term and don't use a "fan name" template on top of its page. That's all... I'll bring it up on the [[genderless]] talk page, since that disambig seems to be the grandparent of anywhere that might be relevant.) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 02:04, 20 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== FP Increasing FC Costs ==<br />
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Really, you have to delete a important detail. It was part of a incomplete section. One of the reasons was: Needed Costs for all facility levels for introduction by visitors. Please re-add them.<br />
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[[User:Bluebird3639|Bluebird3639]] ([[User talk:Bluebird3639|talk]]) 18:26, 20 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:That information was actually there already. Nobody remembered about the incomplete template to update it, that's all. Nothing's been lost. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:39, 20 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==Ether==<br />
Hey! Sorry, I was meant to put it in the edit summary, but Ether is the Japanese name and she's called Cherie in English. At least to my understanding, disambiguations don't count if it's the Japanese name and therefore there's no clash in terms of the article names. If not, I'm happy to be corrected.--[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:green">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''(토크)'''</sub>]] 07:19, 22 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:If someone's only heard the Japanese name, they could still search for that here, and then if there's no note they'd just be left confused. There may still be ways for them to find it, but that'd be relatively difficult especially if they're not super familiar with us/wikis. I imagine there's other examples of this being done but I wouldn't know where. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:26, 22 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Move infobox and "flags" ==<br />
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Hey there! I believe you're still the flag officer around here? As you know, they're not exactly all perfectly accurate (as in, they're ''annoyingly'' deserted: half of our infoboxes have <code>mirrormove</code> incorrect, for example, but then there are none of the GenV+ "flags" I pasted on the talk of [[User:Tiddlywinks/Template:MoveInfobox|what I remember you were doing]]). I'm currently doing some related work there (which involves compiling lists of incorrect "flags"), and the more I do, the more I think this needs to be reformed rather radically. Before I go ahead, I want to ask: Do you have an opinion/plan on how to handle "flags" in infoboxes? Assuming there isn't something in the works already, could we (not necessarily just the two of us, but Bulbapedia as a whole) discuss (and eventually settle on) how to handle them? I believe this really needs some conceptual work before anything else (and it is about time!), that's why I'm coming to you. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 11:02, 22 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I'm not really grasping what you're getting at. I guess that means no, I don't have any plan or anything. So in short: lay out your ideas. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:17, 22 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Continued [[Template talk:MoveInfobox#Flag reform|here]]. Note that I added some more "flags". [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 14:47, 22 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Pulse/Wave ==<br />
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'''はどう''' is translated as ''Wave'', same as the japanese version of ''Aura'', Lucario's power.--[[User:Martianmister|Martianmister]] ([[User talk:Martianmister|talk]]) 07:37, 2 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Pulse is equivalent. Especially since they were translated in English as "pulse", it's fine to use that in our translations as well, rather than just take the lazy/mechanical route of obeying whatever Japanese-English dictionaries say. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:17, 2 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== About the underlevelled Pokemon page ==<br />
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I saw that the pictures have been removed and I completely understand why they have been removed. But although an odd question but is SpriteIt still active on Bulbapedia? Because his most recent contributions and activity from what I'm aware of dates back to 2016 at latest. I'm asking as I'm not sure if I will be able to contact SpriteIt regarding his page for permission to have the template modified. If you know any way to contact him it would be great if you could tell me how so I can ask about the change in template. Although preferably it would make the page look better with pictures, if not having them is what he wishes than I'm completely fine either way.[[User:Nikuriku|Nikuriku]] ([[User talk:Nikuriku|talk]]) 14:36, 7 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:My removal of the column is entirely about what I think, not SpriteIt. That table is much too busy for a huge picture of the Pokemon's artwork. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:47, 7 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Cheers for the advice from my talk page.<br />
::Fair enough about the table being too busy for a picture of the Pokemon's artwork. <br />
::Also would it be better to remove the "Picture" column since there are multiple methods of obtaining an underlevelled species of a Pokemon along with the fact that it never was really used to begin with? <br />
::Also if the "Picture" column is removed could I bring back the "Artwork" column? This is since the "Picture" column was never really used to begin with while the added "Artwork" column was used so in my opinion it would make sense to replace the picture column with an artwork column.[[User:Nikuriku|Nikuriku]] ([[User talk:Nikuriku|talk]]) 14:57, 7 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't really know how Picture would be used. I think if it gets to where it ''might'' be mainspacable, removing it can be considered, but until then, I'd rather give SpriteIt as much time as possible to respond to the page being edited and give any input (even if it just ends up being "Do whatever").<br />
:::Like you said, the Picture column wasn't really used so even removing it doesn't really change a thing about the rest of the table. The artwork is still relatively huge and everything else relatively busy. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:06, 7 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Hey I know this is old and most likely this will not be approved but this is why I'm asking here first:<br />
::::Would I be able to make my own Underleveled Pokemon page so I would be able to add my own information and change the template? This is so I can modify the page without distorting SpriteIt's original page format. Also from that page I'm only taking the information I have added there(it's still going to be on the original page however). <br />
:::: If I can't make my own page then is there a way I could contact SpriteIt regarding the page? This is so I can discuss about modifying the original page and get his input before doing anything major since I'm not sure if he goes on Bulbapedia still.[[User:Nikuriku|Nikuriku]] ([[User talk:Nikuriku|talk]]) 11:49, 11 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::The userspace exists for a reason, and we welcome users making use of it to try to develop new pages. If you want to move it in a new direction, you're more than welcome to make a page in your userspace to play with it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:29, 11 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::Cheers! I assume I can get the stuff I added from the other page and make a different template?[[User:Nikuriku|Nikuriku]] ([[User talk:Nikuriku|talk]]) 13:31, 11 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I'm a bit confused. But I don't think there's a lot of ways you can go wrong. Just dive in, get to it. If there's any issues, we can all figure it out. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:24, 11 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Accuracy vs. evasion ==<br />
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I had believed you knew this all along, way before I realized it, but now I'm better safe than sorry: As accuracy and evasion stat stages are combined to ''one'' multiplier (Gen III onward), nothing can modify one but not the other. Or, in other words, "boosts its evasion by 25%" is another way to say "decreases accuracy of attacks targeted at it by 4/5". It's shorter and probably more intuitive/natural, but it doesn't allow us to be consistent, nor to link to one of the three consistently (and I understood that you preferred <code><nowiki>{{stat|accuracy}}</nowiki></code>). (It's also a little less precise technically/mathematically, I guess, but I think that really shouldn't matter.) More or less, I believe we (and UPC) are using "accuracy" (or <code><nowiki>{{stat|accuracy}}</nowiki></code>) as the generic term that encompasses both "accuracy"s and evasion. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:20, 8 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I don't like leaving these things implied and ripe for misunderstanding, so I take it you're responding to the edits to {{a|Snow Cloak}}.<br />
:Second: you're talking about stat stages, but Snow Cloak doesn't affect stages, it's just a multiplier. ...Perhaps you understand this, but that's not clear to me, and it did (plainly) confuse me.<br />
:You do have a point that accuracy and evasion reduce to the same, ill-defined "stat" after stat stages are applied. (If we go by [http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/content/pokemon-diamond-version-pearl-version-and-platinum-version-accuracy-check.html UPC for DPPt], all multipliers come only after stat stages are resolved.) I.e., at a technical level, you can't really say whether a multiplier affects accuracy or evasion.<br />
:So I think how we should handle it is that, in any cases where a multiplier nominally "affects" the user of a move, that affects their accuracy (like {{a|Hustle}} or {{a|Compound Eyes}}), while a multiplier that nominally affects a Pokemon that is the target of a move (like {{a|Snow Cloak}} or {{m|Gravity}}) affects evasion. This may be what the descriptions for those Abilities try to follow, but we may have gotten too concerned with the wrong things in some places. (If there are any categories for these sorts of multipliers, the question of what's right for ''them'' becomes interesting. Likewise, the multipliers that are split between accuracy and evasion at [[Statistic#Stat modifiers]] become equally interesting.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:13, 8 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
::I can't tell what your first sentence means, but my post was motivated by [[Special:Diff/2637785|you asking for proof it affects something other than accuracy]] (which could have been either an educational, rhethorical statement; or you being unaware that that's not really possible).<br />
::I believe I understand the difference between stat stages and the rest. What I wanted to make you aware of is: Accuracy and evasion have ''a single, combined table lookup'' (unlike say Atk and Def).<br />
::For things that do affect stat stages ({{m|Double Team}} etc.), we obviously need to refer to that stat whose stages are affected. For everything else, I guess we have some freedom, and I believe we're currently consistently saying "increases/decreases <code><nowiki>{{stat|accuracy}}</nowiki></code> of moves [against it] by factor/percentage" (see {{a|Tangled Feet}}'s edit history).<br />
::Both ways of saying it have their drawbacks (as I said above). I guess it's a matter of philosphy/ideology, and of where we want to link to. I believe either way is okay. It's just that whenever UPC etc. say "multiplies accuracy of attacks against it by 4/5", we're free to reword it to "boosts evasion by 25%" if we desire, because it's really the exact same thing.<br />
::(As a side note: for Gravity and {{weather|fog}}, we can say both "affects accuracy/users" or "affects evasion/targets" even ideologically. Official wording from Gravity's effect apparently is neutral: "Moves are more likely to hit for five turns.") [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 19:06, 9 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::(I can't tell how the stages are really related to anything in particular here... So I'm just going to plow ahead until it becomes clear that I did miss something.)<br />
:::I think "where the multiplier comes from" is an eminently reasonable distinction. If it comes from the target's "condition" (like Tangled Feet), that's their "evasion" that's affected; if it comes from the attacker, it's "accuracy".<br />
:::Gravity and fog are more field-wide effects, but I think we still can and ''should'' consider them '''logically'''. As far as Gravity, it should be pretty clear logically that gravity hampers a target's evasion. Fog should likewise logically affect an attacker's ability to ''aim'' (their accuracy). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:07, 9 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::That's a reasonable philospohy/ideology, in my opinion. (And for anything not called Gravity or fog, in-game descriptions may be unambiguous anyway.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 18:57, 10 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Teleport ==<br />
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Hey, could you maybe elaborate on why [[Special:Diff/2641360|my edit]] apparently didn't adress my concern, or shifted the problem? (I guess you realized: my concern is that it sounds like "wild mon" takes precedence over Mean Look etc.) I've looked at my screen for minutes, but I really can't seem to find it. I'd like to "fix" it, which really... doesn't make sense when I'd be trying to just repeat my earlier edit!? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:34, 16 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I might have actually missed or mistaken the "wild" part at the beginning. It was still densely worded, though. It's kind of annoying, because if this were the effect when the move was intro'd, you'd say "Teleport causes the user to flee. It can fail depending on the user's level and because of trapping moves." without having to worry about, "Wait, you can't say 'always'." Being a change like this makes it hard to do smoothly (because I would have said the original way was basically easiest/fine). But I've tried to communicate the same thing more smoothly all around now. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:59, 16 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks. I really do try to find concise wording, but sometimes I apparently just lack the sensitivity, the ability to realize it is overly worded, so I appreciate any simplification you're able to provide.<br />
::In the meantime, I'll be thinking about starting a petition urging for Game Freak to not do bugs, because it's really annoying for us to represent them. Seems kinda selfish. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:47, 16 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Quotes ==<br />
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I saw Looker having a separate quote page ([[Looker/Quotes]]) and wonders on the full requirements of having to create a new page? I was editing Lillie's quotes and the whole thing took to 97.1KB. As for Looker, because since it's from many games, so I assume the full requirements are that the quotes must be very long and the character must have appeared in several games in order for a new page to be created? Also would "Upon being defeated" and "After battle" makes more sense? Or if "After battle" could mean even if you lost? Thirdly, if I were to create my own "User:Ruixiang95/..." on the ghosts appearing in the Pokémon games, which I doubt will be mainspaced at all, will that be a breach of the website's policy? Thanks! — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:orange">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:purple">95</span>]]''' 11:08, 25 May 2017 (UTC), Edited: 11:20, 25 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:There aren't specific requirements for splitting quotes, but you're right, it probably shouldn't be split if they're only in one game or generation.<br />
:I almost like "After battle", but unfortunately it probably is a problem that it sounds like it applies even if you lost the battle.<br />
:We're more than happy for users to use the userspace to try out pages that they think would improve the wiki. You can include the {{template|mainspace}} template at the top, and when you think you're all done, you can add the parameter "status=complete". [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:58, 25 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Vandal ==<br />
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[[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Poke_bulba_321&action=edit&redlink=1]] Whom you reverted will not stop. Should we block? [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 04:35, 1 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== ability3 field in Template:Pokémon/7 ==<br />
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The field to list a third possible ability for [[Template:Pokémon/7]] (and Pokémon/6) was way overdue, so I prototyped a version that accepts 3 abilities. The only difference between this version and the current one is the line that handles the ability fields.<br />
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* Updated template: [[User:TehPerson/Pokémon/7]]<br />
* Test cases: [[User:TehPerson/Tests]]<br />
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Please let me know if you have any feedback. Thanks!<br />
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[[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 07:30, 17 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
:We're not eager to add another conditional in a template that already has plenty, especially when you want to use it on so many pages that use the template so much. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:55, 20 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
::So is there some technical-related issue with this, or this being something too low priority to consider? [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 17:14, 22 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::...It's exactly as I said. Let me put it less ambivalently. We will not be updating the template for that. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:08, 23 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Intervention, please? ==<br />
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Do you mind intervening on [[Cress's Panpour]], please? [[User talk:Pikablu|Pikablu]] refuses to listen to me when I point out that the trivia they added break policy, and they're persistently edit warring to reinstate the trivia. Thanks. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 01:13, 18 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Template questions ==<br />
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Hey, I've got a few questions regarding templates:<br />
* Are we expected to avoid images in (high-use?) templates? Is there any (server-related) issues?<br />
* Do you know whether the software evaluates all branches of ifs, and whatever will not display due to "display:none"? Or, in other words, is there a reason to nest ifs of subsets within each other (e.g., <code>if a<100 then ((if a<50 then x) y)</code> rather than <code>if a<50 then x; if a<100 then y</code>)?<br />
* You seemed to be eager to wrap what currently is "display:none" entirely in ifs. I believe wiki syntax does not provide that functionality to wrap entire tables in ifs (expression error for me), but it may be possible with HTML. Is there a particular reason to try that (seeing how Wikipedia [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conditional_tables#Plan_C suggests] using "display:none")? (Possibly the above point!?)<br />
Of course, it's related to [[User:Nescientist/Template:MoveInfobox|this]] (in particular, the damage category icons and the contest stats). Thanks in advance! [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 10:46, 24 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Abstract issues don't always work well for me... What makes you apprehensive about images?<br />
:Similar to above... I'm going to go with, I don't know, what's your issue?<br />
:Firstly, Wikipedia doesn't exactly "suggest" display:none, it has it as an option (which perhaps notably comes ''after'' wrapping content in #if). I suggest it because display:none very explicitly ''hides'' content. Take a look at [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Cacophony_(Ability)]]: perhaps ''every'' species page links there because that's a default value in the Pokemon infobox, but it's hidden&mdash;it's still ''part of the page'', it's just not ''visible''. This is just, in general, a less than ideal problem (preferably only "valid" links would show up), but more to the point, there's cases where it can very explicitly cover something else you want to find. Suppose there's a parameter that, if set, shows a line with a link to "page", and if it's not set, that's just hidden. Based on the output, you might imagine you could check What links here for "page" to see where the parameter is set, but in truth, it wouldn't be any use to you; and it should be. I couldn't say for what, but I'm fairly sure I ran into just that problem for something in the move infobox. (FWIW as well, instead of very obliquely referring to "You seemed to be eager", being very specific about exactly where you get something like that from can only help. At least, that's true for me. Even if I did&mdash;eventually&mdash;realize what you were talking about here.)<br />
:[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:41, 24 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
::It's because very few templates seem to make use of images/icons. For example, [[User:MisterE13/Villain templates|these]] look so much better than the current templates IMO, and also nobody seems to have added the category icons to the move infoboxes although they existed way before the template was designed, and that made me wonder whether that's due to images (in templates) stressing servers or anything. I [[User talk:Nescientist/Template:MoveInfobox|included them]], but if use of images were a reason to reject template proposals, that'd be good to know (in general/"abstract").<br />
::Thanks, I didn't think of "What links here", I just thought of categories, and none were added in that "display:none" parts. But thanks for pointing it out&mdash;{{m|Floral Healing}}, for example, currently links to [[Appeal]], and it really shouldn't. So I shall try to avoid "display:none", even if that involves some HTML workaround I guess. (Correct?)<br />
::Example is the contest data within the move infobox; if a move needs no "Contest Spectacular", it needs neither "Super Contests" nor "Contests" and so on. If the software was smart and only evaluated what it really needs to (much like most "normal" programming languages/parsers), in most cases, it would need to evaluate less parser functions if those were nested, it wouldn't need to query some color templates, etc. So, I shall try to have them nested I guess. (At least I can't see any real drawback, now that I need to wrap entire tables instead of simply using "display:none" anyway.)<br />
::I parsed your intention from [[User talk:Tiddlywinks/Template:MoveInfobox#To do|here]]. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:11, 24 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't know if there's ''no'' case where images would be a problem, but I don't know how. In this particular case, if those icons ''would'' be any sort of problem, they'd be very simple to remove, so that certainly wouldn't be grounds to reject everything.<br />
:::You don't need to use HTML&mdash;and shouldn't, really. We're a wiki. We can expect people to know/learn wikicode. HTML can only complicate things. Just stick with wikicode.<br />
:::The only generic argument I could make about nesting would be readability (counting brackets is annoying). There's probably documentation that could tell you. I rarely have the stomach to really digest things as dense as that tends to be, though.<br />
:::[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:28, 24 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::As I said, I believe the wiki syntax doesn't allow for wrapping entire tables in ifs (specifically, I'm having problems with the opening and closing <nowiki>{| and |}</nowiki>), so I would need to use HTML (<nowiki><table></nowiki>) as a workaround. I'll try to see if I'm mistaken and/or can make it work somehow. I know using HTML it's bad.<br />
::::Exactly, yes. But I think it's minor, especially when I'll try to intend properly. (And I think expansion depth can be a problem, but only if we get like a dozen more contests.)<br />
::::Thanks. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:43, 24 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::Just wanted to clarify that the wiki syntax ''can'' be used to hide entire tables. I was able to make it work without using HTML. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:39, 27 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Z-Move Effect ==<br />
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Ok then, let's discuss: Why do you think the E should be lowercase? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:03, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:...I was the last one to say anything on [[Z-Move]]. And what I said seems basically clear enough to me. Either you have a response that will attempt to discount something I've said (and/or you'd like clarification on something), or we can only disagree. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:15, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::I don't think you discounted anything I've said, and yet you reverted. Why did you revert? (I don't think any of your statements is factually wrong, but I don't see how that makes you revert my edit.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:20, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::There's no solid reason to think that phrase should be in title case. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:40, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::But wouldn't that be the most logical assumption for a key term? And also, wouldn't title case require one or two additional assumptions, namely that the beginning of the "line" (what you see in the infoscreen; I know it's not literally a sentence) ''is'' in title case, and that the capitalization ''changes'' between title case and sentence case within that same line?<br />
::::Or in other words: Is there solid reason to think the phrase should ''not'' be in title case? (Or even ''rather'' be not in title case?) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:54, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::I'm really not sure what you think a "key term" is/why Z-Power Effect is such. "Z-Power effect" seems simply descriptive, not particularly "special" or anything (for any solid reason). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:22, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::Oh, you didn't challenge that until now!? That is because I noticed that in German, it is one word "Z-Kraft-Bonus", which can hardly be purely descriptive, and is different from [http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/de-de/z-moves/ the website's] actual description (which is something with "Effekte"). Also, as it's in front of a colon, it's quite explicitly summarizing/shortening what it "describes"; it's designed to be to the point. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:43, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::If you want me to have challenged it being a 'key term', I'm don't know how I should have done that when, again, I still don't know what you think that is and when this is furthermore the first time you've mentioned it.<br />
:::::::I absolutely don't know enough about German to say much about that term, but I do know that all German nouns are capitalized. By that, I'd be very hesitant to infer too much from the German. As for it being in front of a colon, you're making a big assumption by inferring anything from the capitalization there; being explicitly set off, there's no telling ''how purposeful'' that capitalization is. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:28, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}} Haha, of course I don't want you to challenge something I would eventually say. But what I mean when I say "it's a term" is that, well, it is an official term, official terminology, something that should be bolded and translated on the page; you didn't un-bold or doubt it was more than a pure descriptive sequence of words. (And with that German, I didn't mean to say anything about capitalization. It was an argument why it is a term, and not merely a pure descriptor.)<br />
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I know that it's technically an assumption to say "Z-Move Effect" is correctly capitalized this way. But in my opinion, it's actually way more of an assumption to say it should be "Z-Move effect" (because I guess terms are typically capitalized, because "Z-Move effect" requires the two additional assumptions I mentioned before, and because "Z-Move effect" just doesn't seem to be used anywhere official). If you really insist and disagree that it's a term, I guess we can agree that we disagree, and you would obviously have the right to make use of your Junior Adminship to overrule me if you wish&mdash;but then you should also de-bold and remove it from "In other languages". (But I honestly think I made rather strong arguments.)<br />
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But saying both "it's a term" and having it lowercase seems almost contradictory to me; I really hope that we will be able to adjust the article accordingly. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 20:57, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I don't have any particular opinion either way on this, but let me just point out that there are plenty of "terms" that we translate and use bold but that are officially lowercase. There's a whole list of them at [[User:SnorlaxMonster/Pokémon Syntax#Capitalization]]. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:05, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Yes, and/but I think we have them that way exactly ''because'' they are not capitalized in sentence case (despite being terms). But either this one is, or (we're assuming) it's in title case ''and'' capitalized (only) because of that. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 21:20, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::The plain fact is, there is no context where you can guarantee that "your" capitalization is intentional. Uppercase is plainly a ''special'' thing; it is not something you assume by default. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:22, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Ah really? Okay, I thought one would assume that by default (for a term, or a Pokémon term). In that case, even though I would still prefer to have it capitalized based on my arguments, I guess it's not as crystal clear as I initially thought. I don't care too much then. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 21:40, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Talk ==<br />
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So like four people get involved and I'm the only one in trouble? Really fair treatment here. So glad we have admins to make this place so much more inviting and remove all the information.--[[User:Pikablu|Pikablu]] ([[User talk:Pikablu|talk]]) 14:58, 6 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Frankly, you were the one most obviously egregious when I saw it. So I did your message first. (After the page itself.) Beyond that, I have various concerns that are not all limited to this site. Try to avoid jumping to conclusions. Or at very least, if your "unfair treatment" is really your concern, be earnest about that (for example, pointing out politely and reasonably the people you think also warrant some sort of messsge); if all you're gonna do is drawl sarcasm at me, you're not putting yourself in any good light. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:04, 6 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==Thoughts==<br />
I know you might not care too much about this, but I wanted to ask about the Mystery Dungeon item pages since we've discussed it (a little) {{DL|User talk:Tiddlywinks/Archive 3|before}}. I've made a page for [[User:Wowy/Throwing item|throwing items]] where I've split the page into each game. The advantage is that the template doesn't become too complex and ugly, and you can write information specific to each game (e.g. IQ skills). Another advantage is that the item "stick" changed its name to "wooden spike" (both English and japanese) (I am assuming they have the same effect with just a different name). So sorting it out by generation would mean that the 'same' item isn't duplicated twice. The disadvantage is that you can't compare the changes that have been made over the different games, and also when someone searches "Geo pebble", I think the search would only land on the page and not on the exact item. I tried to make a page for throwing item because it's relatively sparse, but I don't want spend time making any changes to big pages such as the [[Wonder Orb]] page before approval. What are your thoughts? --[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:green">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''(토크)'''</sub>]] 08:11, 7 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry I haven't been able to figure out what to say sooner...<br />
:Can you give any examples of where you think an item gets complex besides regarding buy/sell prices? (I don't really know what you mean when you mention IQ skills above either, and I don't think I see anything about that on your user page.) For the most part, it seems to me like, since the template is meant to handle multiple games, it seems best to use it like that (aside from how messy the prices get). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:01, 10 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::A slow response is better than no response! And I also don't know what the best way is, and it's fine if we end up leaving it as it is. But if you take Wonder Orb as an example of a list getting complex, some orbs are available in all the games (e.g. Slumber Orb), some are available only in a RBTDS (e.g. Silence Orb), and some only in GTI (e.g. Notice Orb, well I haven't found it yet in SMD and there are no reports of it online) etc. Like the throwing item, some items also changed names (e.g. Foe-Evolution Orb --> Enemy Evolve Orb). So for anyone playing just one of the games, the list gets confusing as to which one is relevant to your game or not, until you open each table. I guess you could argue that the page is just a list of all the orbs in all the games, but maybe the page should strive to do more than that (maybe?). <br />
::When I mentioned the IQ skills, what I meant was when you open the "In Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team" tab, then you can see a mention of IQ skills since that info is relevant to that game, while when you open the "In Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity" tab, you can see a mention of Team Skills since that info is relevant to that game. So you can put information relevant to that game under each tab rather than having it all at the top of the page. <br />
::Whatever happens, thanks for you thoughts! I'll keep them in mind. --[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:green">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''(토크)'''</sub>]] 23:54, 10 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::I've been advised that a compromise could be grouping games. Like sections for "Only in [RB]", "In [RB and TDS]", "In all games", etc as required. That way you'd still have only one template for each item.<br />
:::I don't know what to say about ones like Foe-Evolution Orb --> Enemy Evolve Orb except that it's arguably working alright as it is now on Wonder Orb, with just separate templates for each name. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:52, 11 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Ok, that sounds good in theory, but it ends up with too many arbitrary sections: "Only in [RB]", "[In RB and TDS]", "[In RB, TDS and GTI]", "[Only in TDS]", "[Only in GTI]", "[Only in SMD]", "[In all games]", and would separate similar items that should be grouped together (e.g. Stick, Silver Spike and Iron Thorn are obviously counterparts with different strength, but Silver Spike would come under "All games", while Stick and Iron Thorn would be classed as "In RB, TDS and GTI"). If that's the case, I'm more than happy to keep the MD item pages as it is now rather than make that change (it also doesn't solve the buy/sell price issue).<br />
::::On another note, should Foe-Evolution Orb and Enemy Evolve Orb be listed together on the same template since the Japanese names are the same, while Stick & Wooden Spike, Iron Thorn & Iron Spike be listed separately since they have different Japanese names and so are distinct items?<br />
::::And thank you, I appreciate your responses! :) --[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:green">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''(토크)'''</sub>]] 01:28, 11 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::Are those arc/straight categories a strong in-game distinction, beyond just ''how they behave'' when they're used? If not (and possibly even if they are), then you ''could'' forego those sections. There's only three arcing items, I think it would be fine then to just talk about the different behaviors and highlight the three arcing items at the top of the page or something.<br />
:::::Strictly speaking... Yeah, the Foe/Enemy Evolution Orb should be in a single template, basically like {{DL|Status condition healing item|Paralyze Heal}}. On the other hand...that unfortunately brings about a similar sort of problem as you mentioned before, since the closed template doesn't display the note about the previous name. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:04, 11 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::Okay, how does the [[User:Wowy/Throwing item|page]] look now? --[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:green">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''(토크)'''</sub>]] 04:09, 11 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Did you misorder the Rare Fossil and Gold Thorn in the TDS section? Seems good to me otherwise. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:16, 11 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Magikarp ==<br />
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I had believed it was rude of you to just undo the entire edit when I thought you seemed to be adamant to keep that section clean, and wanted me to possibly move it elsewhere. However, if your problem was not ''where'' it was added, but ''that'' it was added at all, I believe it's just as rude. By now, it should be clear that I (currently) disagree. Either way, please feel free to outline your rationale.<br />
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(As an aside, I believe it's quite striking you expect me to possibly start the discussion by undoing an edit, again. Or is this you exerting Junior Admin powers?) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:51, 16 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I'm going to be honest... The argument you're attempting to make here simply makes no sense to me. You're thinking something that's just totally different than what I'm thinking.<br />
:The situation is very simple. I saw you added something to Magikarp a earlier that didn't belong. You reverted my reversion and called my reversion rude. That makes no sense, and your simple reversion completely ignored the problem I pointed out. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:08, 16 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Honesty is always good. I'm in.<br />
::In my opinion, a simple undoing of an edit (that is within the MoS) is almost always some kind of rude if that undoing is based on personal opinion only. Even moreso when the edit is not one word, but an edit the editor obviously spent time and thought to it. (I thought about it for several days, and it took more than half an hour to finally implement my edit.)<br />
::...And it's more rude (and very striking) when the editor/edit attempted to solve an issue. Your reversion didn't address the problem at all. It just reinstalled it.<br />
::What problem did you want to address in your edit comment? I understood that you wanted to make me (or everyone) aware of the fact that this should be about the species the article is about, not describe a game. I am aware of that, it's just that the game ''is'' about that species. The game is literally ''called'' the species&mdash;I can't do anything about that. What I did was focus on Magikarp appearing there (and I pointed that out in my reversion).<br />
::(Just in case: The patterns are the most important part of it, in my opinion. I ''insist'' they need to be somewhere on the page.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 18:37, 16 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::I have to say... (With, for what it's worth, no offense intended.) It doesn't matter how much time you spend on an edit, if someone undoes that for what ''they'' think is a good reason, your investment/disappointment in ''no way'' justifies you automatically labeling it rude. Just because you put effort into something doesn't give it some magical protection.<br />
:::You say I didn't resolve the problem you were concerned about. Fun fact: I don't really know Magikarp Jump. My intent was that someone who does should address that concern in a better way than your edit did. (This all comes around to: you're invested in this thing and feeling hurt about it. I won't say you can't be, but don't lay it all on other people. They don't have to have the same investment as you.)<br />
:::You state the problem exactly, but declined to try to address it at all. There's a whole article for details of the game. Pumpkinking's edit addresses Magikarp's appearance about as deeply as (as near as I can tell) it needs to be.<br />
:::And there's already an explicit place for sprites. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:59, 16 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::I am in absolutely no way feeling hurt or something about ''my'' edit being removed. Simply removing that much value created focused at solving a problem (one we even agree on), is bad&mdash;regardless of who created that value. (And I didn't say that value gave it protection, or used it as an argument to "automatically" call it rude.) In short: Removing the entire thing entirely is certainly worse than what I did.<br />
::::I know Magikarp Jump a bit. And/but I don't quite understand what makes you think my edit was bad. If you (have read my explanation above and) specified, I could try to address your concern. (Again, I focused on Magikarp ''in the game'', not the game itself.)<br />
::::Are you suggesting to append it to the core games' sprites? I initially wanted to have the patterns near the prose explaining them, but I'm okay with your suggestion as well. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 19:20, 16 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::Call it what you want then, there is still no justification for calling a good faith edit "rude". Anything not to your liking is not "rude".<br />
:::::I'm not sure why you're offering to address my concern when I've already said that Pumpkinking's edit is good. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:32, 16 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::Okay then, I misread that part. I'm fine with that as well, if we add the patterns (in prose and images). Would you please edit them in (or answer where I should put them)? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 19:50, 16 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I already said, if they belong anywhere, there's already a sprites section. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:19, 16 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I hope you already know this, but after reading this whole section again, I wish to very explicitly state/reconfirm that no offense was intended on my part either. I was not trying to attack you personally, and I hope you didn't draw that conclusion at any point. (I obviously suck at reading your mind sometimes.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 20:40, 16 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Marowak ==<br />
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Based on your response to PlayerKing95's page what is your stance on the moves used in SM034?--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 13:43, 20 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I don't really follow the anime. I'll pass the question along. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:52, 20 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==Shuckle==<br />
Thanks for dealing with the vandalism from Joel, hate things I like that.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 21:18, 20 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Meant to be I hate things like that.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 21:18, 20 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== RE: Encounter Edits ==<br />
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As I've been playing through the series gen by gen recently, I've noticed that the more recent gens are full of misinformation on encounters. Diamond/Pearl had a few apparent hiccups, but I'm running into them all over the place in Black/White. Serebii's database is even worse, listing pokemon in completely incorrect routes and areas. It's clear that the encounter rates thus far have all gone on people's experiences and nothing else. I'm just adding mine to the pool--and mind you, I'm changing nothing unless it's been hours upon hours and I'm absolutely, 100% sure.<br />
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If you want to dig up ROM data, by all means, feel free. It has not been done with this encounter tables. I don't have the time or interest in doing it, either--again, I'm just adding my contribution to improve the tables. Even if it won't make them 100% perfect, it will be a step closer to perfect accuracy. If you want to make the tables LESS accurate by reverting my changes, I can't stop you; I went out of my way to improve the data, but if that generous act is not appreciated, I'm fine not bothering. [[User:Xelrog T. Apocalypse|- Xelrog T. Apocalypse]] ([[User talk:Xelrog T. Apocalypse|talk]]) 18:14, 9 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Is corocoro also a forbidden source? ==<br />
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[http://i.imgur.com/RDIolxQ.jpg]<br />
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Because if it was, my edit was valid. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 15:43, 10 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Can you read Japanese? If not, you're relying on Serebii's interpretation of what that scan says. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:48, 10 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::No, I can't. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:50, 10 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== M09 ==<br />
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Hello I would like to ask for a staff member's opinion on this. Frozen Fennec reverted me when I changed "most likely" to "may be" and said that "most likely" is fine, I think having "most" and "likely" makes those points too certain and I don't see what harm there would be in changing "most likely" to "may be". Please could you offer some input thanks[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 14:39, 14 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:We try to avoid personal opinions, which is what "most likely" is. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:18, 15 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you, I saw that you changed it.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 19:55, 15 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==New editor==<br />
[[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pokerman118933]] This new editor is spamming some strange link. Two of his eduts are hidden. Is this vandalism? And by the way, on the talkpage for [[FireRed and LeafGreen]] I posted a question but I am unsure if it belongs there. {{unsigned|RubyLeafGreenCrystal}}<br />
:The user was dealt with. <br />
:It seems okay.<br />
:Also, please use the "+" button at the top of the page, next to "edit this page", to create a new section on a talk page, don't just put it at the end of someone else's section. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 09:51, 16 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Re:Anime moves ==<br />
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I'm sorry if I seemed arrogant or whatever by adding that {{m|Thunder Wave}} use. However, I would like to assure you that I've learned my lesson: I don't add too ambiguous moves without them being confirmed anymore. However, this case wasn't ambiguous at all in my mind: the animation used for the move was identical to the one used in the {{series|XY}}, you can check it out yourself if you want. A couple other users have also already left agreeing opinions to T-Wave's talk page. Do you give me the permission to restore my edit? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:30, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Type: Null at level 5. ==<br />
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(Without double-checking anything but our breeding page) Eggs hatch at level 1<br />
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Doesn't that prove my point? Other than Cosmog (who's obtained at level 5), everything that evolves can be bred and hatched, which makes Type: Null the only unevolved Pokemon unobtainable at level 5. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:34, 24 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:So you mean by leveling up... That's not what obtainable should mean. And even if you find the right word, having to level up Pokemon makes it unnotable. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:19, 24 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::There is clearly a misunderstanding here. What exactly do you think I'm trying to say? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 18:16, 24 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::That's exactly what I said from the start... If Sandygast can be "obtained at level 5", then either it can be encountered in the wild and caught at level 5, or it can hatch at level 5. Neither is true. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:30, 24 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::I don't think the point is notable either, but perhaps what Unowninator intended was more like "the player can/cannot legitimately possess it at level 5". [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:33, 24 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::: ^ Yep, that's exactly what I meant. Thanks for explaining Pumpkinking. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 23:03, 24 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::In that case, my response here was understanding it just fine. You can only have Sandygast at level 5 after leveling it up, which makes it unnotable. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:26, 25 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::What the hell does that have to do with anything? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 04:02, 25 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::"You cannot legitimately possess it at level 5" is wildly aribtrary. If you can possess everything else at level 5 by leveling up but you can't possess Null lower than level 40, then why don't we just level up further and make it level 39, or ''everything'' from 1 to 39?<br />
::::::::And why do we stop before Null's obtainable level? If we just go farther, then everything can be possessed at level 40-100. Yay?<br />
::::::::Your line (and method) is arbitrary, formed to exclude Type: Null for no actually-good reason, it probably just "seems" right. It's not notable. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:17, 25 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::My reason was little cup, but since it doesn't really exist, why not bring up the level 40 thing? If that isn't notable, then why are these facts?<br />
Of all the Pokémon that evolve by leveling up, Hydreigon evolves from its pre-evolution later than any other Pokémon, at level 64.<br />
Out of all Pokémon that evolve by a set level, Larvesta evolves later than any other unevolved Pokémon, at level 59.<br />
:::::::::[[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 02:53, 26 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::I don't know what "the level 40 thing" is supposed to be. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:21, 26 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}} Basically of all unevolved Pokemon, it is obtained at the highest level. Everything else can be lower than 39, but Type: Null can only be at level 40 minimum because it can't breed. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 15:34, 26 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Then just phrase it like that instead of going through a bunch of hoops to overcomplicate it. Something like ''Of all unevolved Pokémon, Type: Null has the highest minimum level at which it can be legitimately possessed: level 40'' seems, in my mind, to be more notable than dancing around the topic by bringing up Cosmog and level 5. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:41, 26 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Hang on, Unowninator, just because I said I ''personally'' think it's more notable than what you had before, doesn't mean Tiddlywinks will decide it's notable ''enough'' to keep. It's probably best to wait to add it until they approve/disapprove it. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:32, 26 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::: [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Type:_Null_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&curid=215674&diff=2682162&oldid=2681962 *extreme facepalm*] Why does nobody understand me? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 06:18, 27 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Video ==<br />
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I do not want to say it but if you pause at 0:25 of the video, it looks sha__. [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 04:28, 1 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I still don't understand. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:34, 1 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
::You will see a white menu in the bottom right corner. You know why now? [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 04:39, 1 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::I see it. Please don't assume I can read your mind and keep asking me to guess. If you can't explain yourself, I won't understand. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:42, 1 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
All right. I'll just ask if a white menu is possible on a gameboy. [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 04:46, 1 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
And if not, where can one be found on a gameboy game. [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 04:48, 1 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I think they're trying to censor the word "shady" for some reason, and are pointing out that the video is taken of an emulated game (you can see a Windows right-click menu briefly at the point they mentioned). [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:49, 1 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Direct linking ==<br />
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Re: your discussion with Nescientist and the staff ruling that came out of it: Can you please have a word with FinnishPokeFan95? As you can see in their contributions history, they are edit warring on Berry pages to remove the redirect even though (as far as I understand it?) the outcome of that conversation was that those links should be redirects. Thanks. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:26, 25 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
:My understanding is that there were two users seriously discussing, not that there was me and a staff member and a staff ruling. (However, there's reasons and arguments, and there's a policy to avoid edit warring, and a will to avoid useless edits.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 18:15, 25 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
::When Tiddlywinks said they had been "advised" on the matter, I assumed it was from higher-up staff members, but yeah, perhaps I misinterpreted that. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:30, 25 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Insignificant minor edits ==<br />
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(I have asked on SnorlaxMonster's talk page but gotten no replies, so...)<br />
I wonder if these minor edits are necessary: [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Dragon_Scale&diff=prev&oldid=2700623 link 1], [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Dragon_Memory&diff=prev&oldid=2700622 link 2], [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Dragon_Fang&diff=prev&oldid=2700621 link 3]. They don't make any difference when you view them on the page. Thanks. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#4B0082;">95</span>]]''' 22:36, 14 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry, I missed this before.<br />
:"Necessary"? No. Personally, they are something I'd probably do myself if I was thinking about it while already doing something on the page.<br />
:Your implication is that it should be stopped. If it was absolutely all someone was focused on, I personally ''would'' ask them to find more substantial edits to make (and have in some cases in the past). While at this particular moment it seems like GrammarFreak01 has done relatively a lot of that sort of edit in the past day, that doesn't seem to consistently be the case so strongly previously. It's still not ideal, but... For what it's worth, I can tell you that, as of yet, it doesn't seem to be weighing too heavily on anyone's mind on staff. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:56, 15 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
::I see. I know it's supposed to do that while you are editing something else on the page, and not just specifically editing this part only. I remembered this sort of insignificant edits will clogged up the Recent Changes or something else. Since there's no worries about that, I guess I don't mind.<br />
::Might as well ask this now also. Are the Rotom Adventures quotes needed to be added to the Rotom Pokédex page? ([[User:Ruixiang95/Rotom Pokédex/Quotes]]) — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#4B0082;">95</span>]]''' 04:15, 15 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::Just to be sure I'm not missing something, you're talking about the Rotom from the Pokemon Adventures manga?<br />
:::As far as I know, we don't do any quotes for anything but games. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:29, 15 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Nope, Video games. The message they show on the bottom screen as you travel in Alola. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#4B0082;">95</span>]]''' 04:39, 15 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::Oh, just everything else beyond the dex stuff. I specifically refrained from that (or even adding an incomplete template) previously myself because I don't think it's necessary. Rotom's dialogue is a little bit like a walkthrough, I don't think it's worth much or adds much. And it's something for practically ''everywhere'', it'd be pretty huge. And then figuring out for ''each'' of those exactly when it occurs would be a huge pain too. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:46, 15 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Archive sandbox ==<br />
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Will you please archive the [[Bulbapedia:Sandbox|sandbox]]? The maximum number of sections should be 60. [[User:SaturnMario|<font color="#034112">SaturnMario</font>]], [[User talk:SaturnMario|<font color="#078325">his talk</font>]] and [[Special:Contributions/SaturnMario|<font color="#83C192">his contributions</font>]] 22:37, 14 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:What do you mean the max should be 60? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:47, 14 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
::The ones including sub-sections. [[User:SaturnMario|<font color="#034112">SaturnMario</font>]], [[User talk:SaturnMario|<font color="#078325">his talk</font>]] and [[Special:Contributions/SaturnMario|<font color="#83C192">his contributions</font>]] 23:37, 14 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::That's not what I asked. I asked '''why''' you say it should be the max. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:40, 14 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::I actually agree. There's so much text & such on the sandbox that it causes my browser to freeze, so I can't even use it. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 21:03, 21 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== That Rhydon thing. ==<br />
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How the hell is it excluding anything? The Psychic type thing excludes all other types, so why is that fine but not this? (I suppose I could just say highest attack of everything compatible with Eviolite, but I think the other way's better...) [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 21:02, 21 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:How is it excluding anything, you ask? The phrase "non-fully evolved" quite explicitly excludes fully evolved Pokemon. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:13, 21 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
::And Psychic types doesn't exclude all other types? I still think it's good trivia. Can we at least reword it? (Unfortunately, my best idea is using Eviolite compatibility) [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 21:25, 21 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::Where do we draw the line? We've easily had "all but Legendaries and Mythicals", "all except Mega Evolutions", (all but Legendaries, Mythicals, and Megas; only Megas; only Legendaries and Mythicals...) "all starters", your "Eviolite users"...and that's just off the top of my head, there's probably several other "interesting" sets that have been on pages and plenty more beyond that if we just decided that anyone who wanted to could make up a set.<br />
:::Let's also consider each of those sets I mentioned above: would it be okay to start talking about only the Fairy-types, Normal-types, etc among each of those groups?<br />
:::What I'm getting at is that it's a lot of stuff, and all that just balloons. More than anything, it's hard enough keeping track of two broad categories (overall and by type)... (I'm pretty sure that when people started updating the best/worst trivia to account for Gen VII, they didn't pay any attention to the Pokemon that used to be "highest" or "lowest" and had now lost that status, thereby leaving old/incorrect trivia on a number of pages.) We don't need to worry about updating stats for a dozen different categories.<br />
:::Even if you want to say, "Well, I think these four or five or so categories are okay and we won't allow ''anything'' else", it can be ''very'' hard to '''remember''' whether what someone added is actually in one of those categories, without referring to somewhere where it would have been stated out. Beyond that, it's not like there's a simple way to "agree" on which X categories we should have, either.<br />
:::The short version is: we don't need a bunch of trouble for allowing all sorts of categories. We should keep it simple, and the most basic categories are just overall and by type. Easy to remember, easy to deal with... It's plenty. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:45, 21 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Topps ==<br />
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Hi not trying to start an edit war but nowhere on the page does it describe all of the different printings. [[User:Samcarano|Samcarano]] ([[User talk:Samcarano|talk]]) 19:29, 28 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:What's not described? The logo colors are described. The finish is described.<br />
:I was also just about ready to ask on your talk page: To me, it seems like the "2nd edition" set with a smooth finish that you described could easily fit the same case as what you called the "rogue" S1 set. Is there particular reason you think otherwise? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:32, 28 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Everything is stated now but the topps logos and the 5th foil print were not stated initially. yes it could be called rogue as it was similarly not released in the U.S. but was produced here(at least as far as I can tell). So that terminology applies here as well. There are also packs of 5 and 8 for both logo colors. I also put in which set the promo was part of. [[User:Samcarano|Samcarano]] ([[User talk:Samcarano|talk]]) 19:51, 28 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
Hey I noticed some file names for the johto series 1 sticker set that were already uploaded are incorrect. 40 and 44 are swapped in the file name. I am unaware of how to fix this.[[User:Samcarano|Samcarano]] ([[User talk:Samcarano|talk]]) 01:11, 29 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:That's interesting. I couldn't say why that happened or why I never noticed (and someone else had to fix it later on apparently)...<br />
:Anyway, on the Archives, you can put the Archives' {{template|move}} template on the page so the staff there will know and be able to move it.<br />
:As a note also, if you notice any images that are relatively low quality, like [[:File:Topps Johto 1 S45.png|Topps Johto 1 S45.png]], we'd be very happy if you are also able/willing to upload higher quality scans of those. Thanks! [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:51, 29 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Yes, I am willing to upload any scans of my cards. Do you have any pointers on how to spot lower quality scans? I know file size can usually be an indication but I also know that png images can be compressed with little loss.[[User:Samcarano|Samcarano]] ([[User talk:Samcarano|talk]]) 02:19, 29 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't think images that are that colorful can be compressed incredibly much, at least not anywhere near the size of images with such lower resolution. It might be a bit tedious, but that means you could just check [[A:Category:Collectible cards|Category:Collectible cards]], find where the Topps cards start, and just check for small sizes.<br />
:::You can also just check the user contributions of any person who you noticed has uploaded at least one LQ image. (It's a bit weird so you may not have noticed, but if you follow the link for S45/Steelix above and click "view on a shared repository" at the top of the page, it'll take you to the proper page on the Archives. On the Archives, you can see the user who uploaded it, LHakaLH in this case, and "contribs" will show their uploads and stuff.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:31, 29 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== some questions ==<br />
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hi. i'm not sure if you are the correct person to ask, but may i know how often does the admins reviews the articles in [[:Category:Candidates_for_moving]], and what is the procedure for moving of pages for admins? I suggested the renaming of [[List of Pokémon by New Unova Pokédex number]] to [[List of Pokémon by Unova Pokédex number (Black 2 and White 2)]] around 1.5 years ago. However, it had not been moved despite the hoenn and alola dex being moved to the format of "List of Pokémon by XXX Pokédex number (game)]]". I was told that admins will decide on the move after discussions, but most of the articles in [[:Category:Candidates_for_moving]] have no discussion at all, or the discussion only consist of the person who suggested it. Those that do have replies won't even last 5 people commenting on it. And the number of talk pages with the admins involved in the discussion is very minimum. It seems that <br />
most of the pages in that category are just sitting there for months with no signs of any work to move or remove them from the page. May i have some enlightenment about the procedure, such as if the admins actually have their own private discussions about those pages, just that we won't know about it? i previously bring this up [[Talk:List of Pokémon by Alola Pokédex number (Sun and Moon)#rename|<br />
on this talk page too]]. thank you for reading. If this is not the correct platform, please let me know the proper channel to enquire about it. Thank you again. -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] ([[User talk:Pokeant|talk]]) 07:52, 8 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:To be honest, I believe discussion happens in an EB-exclusive venue, so I don't really know much to tell you myself about what kind of impetus there is or how it plays out or what.<br />
:If you're worried about a particular page, it may be best to contact someone directly. That "a particular page" part may be important; I would suggest some moderation, not getting excited and asking for ''everything'' to be resolved at once. =P [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:01, 9 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you. the particular page is "[[List of Pokémon by New Unova Pokédex number]]". I feel that with the hoenn dex and alola dex being moved, i do not see the reason for the unova dex to not be moved to be consistent with the hoenn/alola dex page. -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] ([[User talk:Pokeant|talk]]) 03:00, 10 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== My confusion in regards to Grassy Terrain... ==<br />
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If Grassy Terrain is in effect, '''unless the target is in the semi-invulnerable turn of a move such as Dig''' or Dive, the power of Bulldoze, Earthquake, and Magnitude is halved (even if the user or the target is not grounded). <br />
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So basically, if I use Earthquake on something that used Dig, does it do a total of x1 damage (×1/2 from Grassy Terrain, ×2 from using Dig), or is Grassy Terrain's effect ignored when the Pokémon uses Dig, thus ×2? Does my question make sense?[[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 22:38, 13 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:The "×1/2 from Grassy Terrain" that you mention, you're supposing that comes from the sentence you've posted at the start? If so, that very sentence says that that 1/2 only is in effect IF the target is NOT using a move such as Dig. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:47, 13 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Okay, so the 1/2 is ignored and the total is ×2. I was just checking. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 22:54, 13 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Necrozma DM DW ==<br />
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In Megalo Tower we have an box like this with Ultra Necrozma, and i think this is more convencional since Necrozma is not catchable and need to be defeated during this battles. [[User:Pika fanatic|Pika fanatic]] ([[User talk:Pika fanatic|talk]]) January 27, 00:03 (UTC)<br />
:I fixed it. We do full battle templates for Trainers. Totem Pokemon get that treatment in Gen VII because the trials take the place of Gyms, but that's not what Necrozma is. If it's just part of the storyline, it doesn't warrant that. Otherwise it'd entail a '''lot''' more changes beyond just Necrozma. (This may be worth discussing&mdash;but my page isn't really the place for that). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:47, 28 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== BW142 ==<br />
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Could you please explain your edit to [[BW142]]? A Trainer can only carry six Pokémon at a time and Ash left more than six (Unfezant, Oshawott, Pignite, Snivy, Scraggy, Leavanny, Palpitoad, Boldore, Krookodile, and Charizard) at Oak's Laboratory. The "On hand" section on anime character pages always features up to six Pokémon. We use "In rotation" when Trainers are shown using more than six Pokémon. For reference, see the pages of May, Ursula, Nando, Virgil... --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 23:54, 6 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I agree that's a better phrasing, so I've revised the page in hopes of it being able to stand as a compromise. I hadn't thought of the possibility of using "in rotation"; thanks for the suggestion. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 23:58, 6 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I'm sorry, Mikuri. I tried to check what was going on a bit but in the mix I seem to have missed/forgotten the part where you said Ash left more than six Pokemon with Oak. I thought your issue was that he had fewer than six Pokemon "on hand".<br />
::That said, looking farther back this time, I really don't see any problem at all with Pumpkinking's original edit. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:08, 7 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Rotom Power Bag Pocket ==<br />
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Do you know anyone who could add the Rotom Power as a pocket for the bag? On my userpage are samples of the item pages for Rotom Powers, but default to the Z-crystals pocket since Rotom powers aren't part of the template yet. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 03:16, 17 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I received sprites for the pockets, so I can make it work soon. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:42, 22 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokemon species trivia ==<br />
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Can trivia about a Pokemon species ever be notable if it's not unique? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 02:11, 22 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
:As a rule, it is not. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:42, 22 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
::For example, does that mean the trivia about Dugtrio being immune to telekinesis needs to be deleted because mega Gengar is also immune to it? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:21, 22 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Done. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:15, 22 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Value of truth ==<br />
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I don't want to derail other discussions, so I'm taking this here. I'm alarmed by the attitude you've seemed to have on talk pages such as [[Talk:Team Skull Grunt (Trainer class)]] and [[Talk:Pokémon Communication Center]] in which you apparently don't think it's necessary to correct something false if it's something you consider minor. Phrases like "who really cares" and "what exactly is hurt" seem, in my mind, to be an effort to discourage people from trying to present the most truthful possible information. In my mind, these are plain-as-day cases of inarguably false information (niche cases, granted, but inarguably false nonetheless), and you seem actively interested in discouraging the correction of them.<br />
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For that reason, I wanted to directly ask: am I misinterpreting you, or do you really not think truth is an important value for Bulbapedia? If the latter, is that also the official staff position? If so, I'm not sure I can continue to feel comfortable participating in an encyclopedia if it isn't trying to be true. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:21, 23 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
:You're taking it much too dramatically.<br />
:I'm just going to address the specific cases directly.<br />
:I do not believe that there's really any point to trying to say on any page about grunts that they technically have a "Trainer class" that is their team name. (Note that I am not saying we should have "Team Skull Grunt (Trainer class)". I am not, either, saying we shouldn't, though. I'm personally leaving it for further comment, because, in short, things are ''alright'' as they are, I'm fine just waiting and focusing my own attention on other things.) The only place I think it would be worth communicating that there is no "Team Skull Grunt" Trainer class would be if we had a technical page that touched on the Trainer data in the ROM or something. The argument I made that you express concern about above was against your suggestion to merge grunts' info into team TC pages&mdash;that's all.<br />
:I do not consider an implication that the GS Ball is only available in Crystal's VC version a falsehood at all. You cannot obtain the GS Ball solely by playing Crystal's cartridge versions. There is no falsehood communicated. That said, I also ''explicitly'' did not say that only listing the VC item was the only option. I suppose I must admit, I tried to phrase my whole comment about the GS Ball relatively delicately; so let me attempt to make clear here that what I meant was: I do not think it is right for us to mention (or worry about) the cartridge GS Ball in the template, and I '''disfavor''' some extra note nearby (but it is still an '''option'''). To put it another way, the intended point was, noting the cartridge version in the template is more trouble than it's worth, but there are still solutions that we could '''add''' to the original revision before your original attempt to "fix" it. (Let's say that at least half as strongly as you are against only mentioning VC&mdash;which, again, is not the only option I entertain&mdash;I'm that strongly against any significant change to "Received from an attendant while attempting to exit after entering the [[Hall of Fame]] ([[Virtual Console]] only)" as your recent edit has done; it only hurts what is already perfectly useful.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 09:59, 23 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
::FYI, I now [[Talk:Pokémon Communication Center#Event items|do not think]] that there is any real reason to add any note about the cartridge event. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:59, 23 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== I brought it to the guy's talk page to avoid an edit war, but it's been over a week. ==<br />
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I'm talking about [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pokk%C3%A9n_Tournament&diff=2741661&oldid=2740232 this edit], specifically the release date. I even added the hidden text, but [[User:Akurochan]] flat out ignores it without even saying why. I asked him on [[User talk:Akurochan# Why did you keep changing Aegislash's release date?|his talk page]], but he hasn't even been on the site in over a week. What else am I allowed to do? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 22:53, 26 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Two questions.<br />
:1) What's your time zone? And do you remember when exactly you downloaded it?<br />
:2) I don't know Pokken, so just to be sure, when you said you downloaded it, I suppose that means you could immediately play it (and not that it ws locked for a while still)? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:33, 27 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
::My time-zone is EST, so it's 1:25 PM when I posted this. IIRC I was able to play it at 8:30 - 9:30 PM. It was playable immediately after the download finished. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 18:25, 27 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Japan's time is 14 hours ahead of you. It was reasonably released on the "correct" day when you downloaded it. It's fine. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:30, 27 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::In other words, I have to leave it alone. Is that correct? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 18:56, 27 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::It should not be changed. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:04, 27 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Very well, I understand now. Thanks for doing what Akurochan didn't do himself. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 19:17, 27 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Own Tempo Rockruff ==<br />
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I made a correct edit to the evolution section of Own Tempo Rockruff. Why was it reverted? [[User:IFlames|IFlames]] ([[User talk:IFlames|talk]]) 03:10, 1 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Note that it doesn't really make sense that you get '''Dusk''' Form at 5 AM (which is roughly ''dawn''). You're forgetting that in-game time is not the same as the real-world time (or more accurately, the 3DS clock, which also doesn't have to have ''any'' relation to real-world time). Only the in-game time matters. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:21, 1 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::I am currently playing UM and I can confirm the evolution takes place between 5 AM and 5:59 AM. I know it doesn't make sense but thats how it is. US is 5 PM to 5:59 PM. I strongly suggest you revert your re-edit, or if you dont believe me, try it out yourself. [[User:IFlames|IFlames]] ([[User talk:IFlames|talk]]) 03:36, 1 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Bear with me a second here... How do you know it's the 5 AM hour? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:39, 1 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::::Well first I saw bulbapedia saying 5PM hour. So i tried leveling up Rockruff then. But it didnt evolve. So I found a few posts on the internet saying it was the 5AM hour for UM. So then I tried it around 5:20 AM (3DS time), and it worked. Why on earth would I even lie about this or make the edit if I wasn;t sure? [[User:IFlames|IFlames]] ([[User talk:IFlames|talk]]) 03:42, 1 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I'm not at all saying you're lying. I'm saying you're missing something.<br />
:::::The 3DS's time is NOT the time in-game.<br />
:::::Try this. Check the time on your 3DS. Then go to a Pokemon Center in UM and talk to the cafe owner. (He doesn't tell you the same time.)<br />
:::::That is to say, even though your 3DS says 5 AM, it's still 5 PM in the game when you're evolving Rockruff. The page is correct. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:52, 1 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== "Trade" in Item Locations ==<br />
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For games where you can only obtain items through Trade, do we put down it as [[Trade]] or ''[[Trade]]''? FinnishPokéFan92 has been changing the latter back to the former, so I'm not sure which to go with now. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 01:47, 7 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I personally believe that the italicized one is better because it makes it readily distinguishable from other rows (where it's actually directly obtainable in-game). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:51, 7 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Agreed. I'll change them back when I find them again. Thanks. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 01:55, 7 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
Oh yeah in the same vein, under acquisition in item pages, when an item can be found in an area more than once (but still finite), do leave just the location or do we include the number of times it can be found? (6 [[Thunderstone]]s for example can be found in [[Ultra Plant]]). [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 02:53, 7 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I guess it's simple enough, I don't think a count like that is a problem. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:05, 7 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::If I may intrude, that would require a lot of "backtracking" so to say, as many already existing item pages lack the amount of it obtainable in every finite way, especially when talking about earlier generations. This is why I personally would oppose the idea, even if only for the sheer size of that job, but if someone is ready to do all that checking for every single existing item page, knock yourselves out. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:21, 7 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I think if it's missing, no big deal. It can be fixed sooner or later. And if it's often "later", even "much later", that's, again, not a huge deal. It's fine without, but also probably nice with a count. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:27, 7 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Food Stall color ==<br />
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I don't get what you meant by that. The other Festival Plaza facilities don't share the same progression of palettes with each other. In fact, a majority of the most common ones are primarily or partially red, not blue. Plus there is nothing I've ever seen of Alola having some overarching color scheme outside the island names being colors in Hawaiian, and those four aren't applicable there, or with any of the different facility palettes.<br />
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I get keeping the descriptions of the facility palettes simple, but unless there's something in the game's code or from a guidebook that has official names for the facility colors that I'm not aware of, I just don't see what you mean by them having explicit palettes[[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 02:47, 8 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Let me get the issue of the "palette" out of the way. There are actually two reasonable color "palettes" you can take from SM/USUM. The first is the simple 7 "primary" colors of ROYGBIV, as seen in [[Poké Bean]] colors and {{p|Minior}}'s forms. The second is seen in the 8 colors you can [[Festival Plaza#Dye houses|dye]] clothes in (which many [[fashion item]]s also naturally have). (Pink is the "odd man out" in the latter set; "navy blue" could be considered a parallel to "indigo" and "purple" a parallel to "violet", and all other colors have the same names.)<br />
:Now&mdash;if we exclude the obviously Pokemon-themed colorations of some facilities&mdash;every facility's color scheme is plainly based on one of these "primary" colors...or black. The black is a huge through line, so that gets a pass. But "brown" is not part of Alola's "palette" and it's not even remotely a significant pattern with any other facilities. Calling that one facility theme "brown" is ignoring the blatant pattern that everything else fits in; it's not reasonable that just one doesn't, especially when there are plain elements of a primary color in the building's color scheme. It may be relatively subdued, but it is the most meaningful label for this. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:07, 8 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::That's quite an arbitrary rule to apply to this. You're just applying the standard ROYGBIV, not something unique to the Pokemon games themselves, like Floette flowers, or the island colors. Plus, unlike the island colors, which are far more prevalent in Alola (Battle Royal Dome's stage entrances, the Battle Royal Dome symbol itself, Oricorio's forms, parts of the respective Island Kahunas' clothing, the Island Guardians), there's only two seemingly solid cases of it: Minior and Poke Beans. <br />
::As well, those two are not perfect matches for ROYGBIV. The "blue" and "indigo" Minior Forms and Poke Bean colors are closer to being cyan and blue, respectively. I checked the RGB levels of the sprites in an editing program and none of the "Indigo" ones had red levels higher than their green levels Which for Indigo the RGB levels are usually around 75,0,130. The "blue" ones were far from being dominantly blue, having a fair mix of green and blue, which shades of Cyan usually have. Not to mention the "blue" pattern bean is nearly entirely white. <br />
::All this, along with the Pink and Navy Blue dye shops and the odd Black themed facilities throughout not fitting with the ROYGBIV palette, leads me to the conclusion that it's not nearly as concrete of a design theory as it might seem. <br />
::In conclusion, I think that we should provide descriptions of objects and locations based on what we see, not based on our assumptions. [[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 06:44, 8 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::If the games want to identify whatever shades as "blue" or "indigo" or whatever, so long as it's halfway reasonable (i.e., not "blue" for '''orange'''), that's their choice and not even something worth arguing...<br />
:::Among the other three food stall variations, the only things that consistently match the obvious color theme are the checkers and the paneling flanking them. The first food stall variation bucks that pattern, with those parts having different colors. And, of the two parts, I think it's profoundly reasonable to focus on the checker pattern. Brown isn't remotely worth calling a color scheme, it's just wood, a ''default''. The plain design touch is the blue checkers. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:18, 8 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Ok, I'll concede, I hadn't checked what the in-game Pokedex names Minior's forms prior to now. Poke Beans also likely follow that scheme, even if it's not as solid, there's still 7 of them and they somewhat follow ROYGBIV. The same for the dye stalls; Navy Blue could just be a mistranslation of Indigo. (and I just thought of Pink being there to fully represent the Island colors alongside ROYGBIV)<br />
::::But I still think it's quite a large leap in logic to assume that other things in-game fit that when they don't come in a set of 7 colors that resemble ROYGBIV as those three examples do. [[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 20:52, 8 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I don't think there's a big leap of logic, but I don't think that's the only reason to choose "blue" either. Like I said, that's really the only reasonable color you can point to as the design choice ("brown" is not the design choice, it's just the foundation). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:43, 9 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Once again, that's a very arbitrary distinction. Brown is a color just the same as blue is. I don't see what makes it different from any other color that makes it just a "foundation". Regular wooden surfaces are just as valid in real life for designing building exteriors or interiors as any painted surface. [[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 04:38, 9 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I really don't think this is hard. Blue is a color that the other variations have used. Brown isn't. There's simply NO good reason to choose brown uniquely here instead of blue. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:29, 9 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Grant (trivia) ==<br />
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I simplified my earlier edit to include only Geodude - though Roxanne does have an Onix- in rematches that is.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 08:33, 16 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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: What do you mean not enough Rock-type gym leaders - how many does there have to be for a comparison?[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:48, 19 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Maybe 10. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:25, 19 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Serrebi ==<br />
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Hi. Noticed your post on a user's page. Wnat to know, what iss tealing from Serribbi? Is it not fair use to note facts regardless of who discovered them? I am not an expert in law so it seems quite new to me (after all, I did not underatand copyright or IP rights well until a few years ago). [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 00:26, 21 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:It's pretty simple. Serebii has expressed that they do not allow other sites to take their information. If you find something at Serebii, you'll have to find an independent source or confirm it on your own before you can edit it here. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:29, 21 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I understand. But is there any legal reason to avoid? I do not plan on posting anything from there (rarely visit it anyway), but just wondering. Does this mean research can be copyrighted? [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 01:38, 21 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::As they say: I am not a lawyer. All I can say is that BP staff wouldn't long tolerate anyone continually trying to use Serebii's info here. We have no desire to antagonize them. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:48, 21 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks. Did not realize there were people like that. One learns somthing new every day. [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 02:04, 21 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Fossil Pages ==<br />
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Hiya! I got the individual Fossil pages on my userspace I believe are ready to be mainspaced. If you deem they are, how would we go about this procedure with the current X and Y Fossils format? [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 01:27, 23 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Hey. I'd like to follow-up on this. I still think splitting the Fossil pages is a good idea, following the recent changes to item pages and making 'em consistent. They also have changed characteristics over the gens and I believe the template makes info easier to grasp without having to read through the write-ups in the current fossil pages.<br />
:I've updated them for Let's Go. Please take a look see at my userspace. Thanks! [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 23:38, 23 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::On another note, could you delete the pages under "mainspaced pages" in my userspace? The content in them have already been transferred to mainspace and no longer have use. Thanks again. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 23:41, 23 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't know if I lost this before or what... Anyways, I'll see what other staff think and/or look at them tomorrow.<br />
:::(Also, this is pretty far up my page (with little really unique substance here). It would have been simpler to just reinitiate in a new section.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:07, 24 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== untitled ==<br />
Stick to your pages and I'll stick to mine. Thanks. {{unsigned|Vyper3006}}<br />
:This does not constitute a discussion. I await any substance. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:05, 25 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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You have it. <br />
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https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPoQ7QU8fR_pFFfBvm488IP_N3sMzgzFflr2t9C<br />
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Why are you saying it isn't a real card?<br />
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== List of moves and abilities affecting abilities ==<br />
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You undid my edit, saying that it was "already mentioned". Where was it already mentioned? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:15, 28 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Where you put it before and where I removed those tables, easily visible if you look at the diff. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:30, 28 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::You only told me not to put the tables above the list of abilities, so I re-added them below the list of abilities. Why can't I have the tables there? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 23:02, 28 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I'm confused. Do you or do you not realize that the things you want to add are currently on the page already? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:40, 29 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I realized just now. Oh well. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 02:46, 29 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Unacceptable User Name chain ==<br />
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An array of users named after Communists has just shown up. Might want to nip this in the bud.--[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 02:07, 29 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Types and "metagame" information ==<br />
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Why is information about "the metagame" (stuff like "this type is good when combined with this other type") allowed on the pages about types but nowhere else? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 23:27, 2 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Thunder wave ==<br />
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When I added that trivia (or trivium or whatever), I meant thunder wave was the only status move whose immunities ''behave according to the type chart''. You know, the one that looks like this. <br />
{| class="roundy" style="border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" | ×<br />
! colspan="18" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#4C4BA4" | <small>Defending type</small><br />
|-<br />
! style="background:#{{normal color}}" | {{ic|Normal}}<br />
! style="background:#{{fighting color}}" | {{ic|Fighting}}<br />
! style="background:#{{flying color}}" | {{ic|Flying}}<br />
! style="background:#{{poison color}}" | {{ic|Poison}}<br />
! style="background:#{{ground color}}" | {{ic|Ground}}<br />
! style="background:#{{rock color}}" | {{ic|Rock}}<br />
! style="background:#{{bug color}}" | {{ic|Bug}}<br />
! style="background:#{{ghost color}}" | {{ic|Ghost}}<br />
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | {{ic|Steel}}<br />
! style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{ic|Fire}}<br />
! style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{ic|Water}}<br />
! style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{ic|Grass}}<br />
! style="background:#{{electric color}}" | {{ic|Electric}}<br />
! style="background:#{{psychic color}}" | {{ic|Psychic}}<br />
! style="background:#{{ice color}}" | {{ic|Ice}}<br />
! style="background:#{{dragon color}}" | {{ic|Dragon}}<br />
! style="background:#{{dark color}}" | {{ic|Dark}}<br />
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | {{ic|Fairy}}<br />
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFF; font-size:90%"<br />
! rowspan="18" style="background:#A44C4B" | <small>A<br>t<br>t<br>a<br>c<br>k<br>i<br>n<br>g<br><br>t<br>y<br>p<br>e</small><br />
! style="background:#{{normal color}}" | {{ic|Normal}}<br />
| 1×<br />
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| 1×<br />
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|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFF; font-size:90%"<br />
! style="background:#{{flying color}}" | {{ic|Flying}}<br />
| 1×<br />
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|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFF; font-size:90%"<br />
! style="background:#{{poison color}}" | {{ic|Poison}}<br />
| 1×<br />
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| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×<br />
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|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFF; font-size:90%"<br />
! style="background:#{{ground color}}" | {{ic|Ground}}<br />
| 1×<br />
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| style="background:#000; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 0×<br />
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| 1×<br />
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×<br />
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| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×<br />
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFF; font-size:90%"<br />
! style="background:#{{ghost color}}" | {{ic|Ghost}}<br />
| style="background:#000; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 0×<br />
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! style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{ic|Grass}}<br />
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|-<br />
| colspan="20" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" | <small>These matchups are suitable for {{color2|000|Generation VI}} onward.</small><br />
|}According to that chart, grass and electric are not immune to anything, so the fact that stun spore couldn't hit them had to be ''programmed separately.'' What I was trying to say earlier was that thunder wave was the only status move that ''behaves according to this chart'' and was not ''programmed separately.'' Do you understand what I'm trying to say now? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 23:27, 2 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I still don't think it's so important a difference that it's worth any trivia. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:52, 3 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Klinklang ==<br />
<br />
Hello. On the page for Klinklang, you removed my trivia because it was noticeable. Noticeable Trivia does appear a fair bit on Bulbapedia and if you looked at the Gen 5 Sprites, it isn't that obvious. I'm just wondering why it was removed as such. Thanks. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 15:33, 10 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:We just don't list things already visible on the page. That's just repetitive, when anyone can see it if they care. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:20, 10 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== How? ==<br />
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Seriously, how did you not see the poor English and punctuation in [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Unnamed_island_(EP098)&diff=prev&oldid=2768100 these] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Cinnabar_Island&diff=prev&oldid=2768111 edits]? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:47, 21 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:What do those matter? It's not at all unintelligible. The changes it seems you've now made are minor. That's not even remotely a basis for outright rejection. If you don't want to fix it, leave it alone, you can't revert it just because it bugs you a bit. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:01, 21 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I reverted those because I wasn't sure what the original editor was trying to communicate due to the poor English, and I feared that any changes I made would ruin the intended meaning. For example, with the second diff, it mentions a "Gyarados hot spring tap". Since I didn't see that episode, I didn't know if the Gyarados was a typo, or if the hot spring tap was supposed to be shaped like a Gyarados, or if there was a missing key word. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:25, 21 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::That's just one (arguable) sentence. Not remotely warranting wholesale reversion. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:09, 21 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Like I said, one change could've ruined the whole meaning the user was trying to communicate, and I couldn't leave it like that. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:14, 22 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::...That doesn't mean reverting the whole thing was right. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:16, 22 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Well, what was I supposed to do? And yes, I know that I did "improvements" after you undid my reversion, but I'm still not confident that was what the user was trying to say. It was that confusing to me. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:17, 22 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::You can try talking. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:16, 22 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Kinda hard to do that now that the user thinks I'm a racist. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:31, 22 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::As far as I'm concerned, that's just an excuse to give up. ...Don't. (Also, that is not how I read their message.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:19, 22 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Flavor Page ==<br />
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I'm relatively new to editing wikis, so I'm not sure if I ought to "...discuss this one first" {{ut|Tiddlywinks|here on your talk page}}, or on the Flavor article's [[Talk:Flavor|talk page]], but I figured I'd start here to give myself a better chance of being sure that you read this and don't accidentally miss it.<br />
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My main issue with the [[Flavor|Flavor page]] as it stands now is that the {{DL|Flavor|List_of_Apricorns_by_flavor|Apricorn section}} has the flavors listed in the "correct" order (that being Spicy, Sour, Dry, Bitter, and Sweet) while the page's intro, flavor preference table, Contest/Pokéathlon table, and the berry tables for gens III, IV, and e-Reader all have the flavors listed in the following order: Spicy (+Atk), Dry (+SpA), Sweet (+Spe), Bitter (+SpD), and Sour (+Def) [so not quite half-and-half, like I first thought - that's my bad].<br />
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This is, to me, pretty unintuitive, since stats are most always ordered HP (N/A here), Atk, Def, SpA, SpD, and Spe. I was actually looking at the flavor page for more info about {{cat|Berries_that_may_cause_confusion|confusion berries}} and ended up super confused (hah, didn't even mean for that silly little joke to happen) for a moment because of the ordering of the flavors (though that may just be indicative of ignorance on my part). Because 6/7 sections have the flavors ordered in the "weird" way, I'm beginning to think that there's probably a reason for it. If there is and I'm missing it, then please do let me know! However, even if that were to be the case, I, personally, still think that ordering the flavors to match with the traditional order of stats would be more beneficial overall. It makes things easier for dumb-dumbs like me, so that we don't have to go to {{DL|Nature|Stat-focused_table|an entirely different page}} in order to figure out what the heck is going on.<br />
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And, just on the off chance that you're considering it, there's no need to copy-paste that table onto the Flavor page - the current table is totally fine for its page (though I certainly wouldn't complain if I could reinstate my edited version of it!), since it's more focused on the flavors themselves, rather than the increase and decrease of stats that come along with most natures. At the very least, we ought to make all seven sections consistent, one way or the other.<br />
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Thanks!<br />
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<nowiki>~</nowiki>[[User:Mimikyuuuuuuu|Mimikyuuuuuuu]] ([[User talk:Mimikyuuuuuuu|talk]]) 05:12, 27 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:First things first, there is only one place on that page where any of those basic stats is mentioned at all ("Attack"). On the rest of the page, no one will be able to tell what stat each flavor corresponds to without a whole bunch of cross-referencing (or memorization). So the proposition that an "incorrect" order might be any particular problem is fairly dubious.<br />
:FYI, it was also kind of a problem that you didn't change all of the tables. (I don't mean to say that it's okay for you to make the change if you do everything up "right".)<br />
:My primary concern about the "proper" order was that I'd like to know what the games actually do. And {{pkmn|Contest}} categories are listed in the order Cool Beauty Cute Smart Tough, just as the second table currently on the page shows. IMO this is a fine order since Contests are pretty strongly linked with the flavors (at least stronger than anything else). There doesn't seem to be any real consistency in other things, like the stat order when viewing a [[Pokéblock]], the [[List of items by index number (Generation VII)|default order]] of the [[Apricorn]]s, the [[performance]] stat order...<br />
:Given that general inconsistency, it may be reasonable to default to the order of basic stats. But personally, I don't think it's that huge a deal, either.<br />
:(FYI, you can usually make comments on a mainspace talk page first. It's much easier for other people to contribute opinions there. And people will generally pay some attention...especially if they've explicitly suggested the talk page. But even if you don't seem to get a resonse, you can always make a short comment on the person's user talk page to direct their attention to the talk page you commented on.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:13, 27 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Alola Dex in Ultras Sun and Moon==<br />
Hey there. I need your help with something. Can you add this to the Pokémon Infobox so I can add the dex numbers on the Pokémon that appeared in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon?: a2dex And maybe add a category like this? Category:Pokémon in the Alola Pokédex in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon. Kinda like how you did in Pokémon Black 2 and White 2. [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 15:59, 29 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:As we've told a number of people who have asked in other places, we are considering moving the 'dex numbers out of the infobox. As you can see on {{p|Zubat}}'s page, its infobox is already very well packed with the 'dex numbers. Trying to make a new format so we can add another could be very complex, especially with the more or less random nature of which 'dex numbers each Pokemon has. We think that putting that info somewhere else may be better. There still has not been a decision on the matter. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:10, 30 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Quotes ==<br />
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I'm planning to redo all the quotes for characters in core series games (I have nothing to do), while filling out any missing quotes. I just wanted to check a few things.<br />
*Do references to other characters and items requires linking to the articles; the names for the characters or items aren't directly stated ([[Special:Diff/2771756|example]])?<br />
*Do quotes in "scream" speech bubbles need to be bolded? ([[Special:Diff/2771753|example - first line in USUM section]]: "This is excellent! Exciting, even...")<br />
*For battles, are "Before battling, Upon being defeated, After being defeated, If the player is defeated" the correct terms to use? (I think I previously discussed with you before, but another admin sometimes changed the "Upon being defeated" back to "Being defeated".)<br />
Are do these doesn't really matter at all? (I doubt anybody pays attention to the quotes section) Thanks. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#4B0082;">95</span>]]''' 09:04, 30 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I'm not sure about linking indirect references. Right now...I suppose if it were me, I wouldn't remove them but I also don't know if I would be motivated to add them. (Very possibly, if I were specifically looking at something, I might realize that the links are a good idea; or possibly the opposite. Right now, though, I'm just not sure.)<br />
:Personally I don't like bold for screaming. It's never come across like it was actually supposed to be screaming to me.<br />
:I do prefer that set, with the exception that "if the player is defeated" is unnecessary since the first half already entirely implies that. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:00, 30 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Cute Charm ==<br />
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The sentence, "The set of possible values depends on the gender of the Pokémon with Cute Charm, and if the Pokémon with Cute Charm is female, the wild Pokémon's gender ratio." looked kind of weird and I thought it had a grammar error. It looked like it was trying to say something like "depends on the gender of the Pokemon, whether the Pokemon with Cute Charm is female, and the wild Pokemon's gender ratio." Can we possibly make it more clear and obvious that it isn't a grammar error? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 03:04, 2 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Fixed. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:08, 2 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Okay thanks. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 14:55, 2 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== The Ash's Charizard gender debate, and the reason I ceased participation on it ==<br />
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Force Fire said this when I contacted them(my notes added to show my thought process reading this):<br />
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"First of all, Dennou is not a former staff member, he is still a senior administrator"<br />
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My mistake. <br />
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"Secondly, you need to stop going around like you have some sort of authority"<br />
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I know that and neither want nor care for authority on this site, nor have I been actively attempting to inflect such....Passion for rules =/= projecting authority or seniority unless you are assuming bad faith/intent on my end...<br />
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"Thirdly, just because I've been very strict on anything gender related, doesn't mean I'm going to say "no" every single time"<br />
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I'd like an example of them saying yes on non-Force Fire-written and mandated gender policy-based evidence, but they're right in a way). <br />
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"There is actual legitimate evidence/source for Dennou's claim"<br />
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Tomioka is invoking Word of God like JK Rowling retconned a Jewish Student into Hogwarts despite wizards and witches having no prior evidence of organized religion besides the occasional "my God"...that's how <br />
Word of God works, which this echoes IMO. <br />
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"Tomioka is an actual writer for the show, so he probably knows more and probably has control over how he wants characters to be portrayed"<br />
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Does he have authority over other anime staff? Is he the one who OKs final decisions? I don't know if this is true or if Force Fire is assuming this (And if so, based on what)?. <br />
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"Tracy West novelisations is not written by a writer from the (Japanese) show. There's a big difference"<br />
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Yeah, it was a bad, rather sarcastically-motivated example in hindsight)<br />
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...I feel bad for ever entering into it based on a big red warning label on the top of the talkpage...Am I supposed to feel ashamed for even trying to quote policy? Did it really come off as bossing people around in a Brainy Smurf-esque way via poor wording? Or did I catch Force Fire in a bad mood/at a bad time...can you sort this out my confusion/shame? --[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 02:34, 4 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:ForceFire can answer best for ForceFire, as I rule I don't like to speak for others.<br />
:I think keeping in mind the possibility that you might be wrong is a way not to sound too bossy. If there's one thing I hate, it's being wrong. So I try to ask myself what I'm overlooking; it can be a bitter pill, but I like the other option less. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:24, 4 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I'm not asking you to speak for ForceFire:I'm asking if I should feel ashamed for even discussing the matter if I'm not someone important enough. And just cause I report rulebreaks doesn't mean I think I'm a cop, judge, jury or executioner:At best I'm a tipster. --[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 12:52, 4 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::You asked if Force Fire was in a bad mood. I do not know that. (And I'm not going to just ask and be a relay.)<br />
:::I'm not certain where you get the idea that only "important" people can discuss any particular thing on the wiki or whatever.<br />
:::But generally I would not say you should feel bad. That probably won't really ease anything, but it may help move past it. (Which isn't to say there shouldn't be anything that can be learned from the matter.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:43, 4 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::That was meant to be rhetorical. I'm sorry for that not being worded in such a way.<br />
::::It does seem that some people, like Lady Ariel, Pumpkinking, Playerking and FinnishPokémonfan get a lot more "freebies" regarding importance and/or extra rulebreaks, so I tend to feel that they are given special treatment due to edit count despite their lack of staff status and/or serial troublemaking.<br />
::::That's what I needed to hear. I will rejoin the discussion now that my head's clear. --[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 22:42, 4 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::If you're comparing (contrasting, rather, I suppose) those users to yourself, no one on staff has gone to your user talk page about anything for, it looks like, very nearly a whole 3 years. You're not in any special trouble about anything. (...To the extent of my knowledge. Which is mainly just a paranoid disclaimer.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:40, 5 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Smogon and fansite rulings ==<br />
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If Showdown(created, owned and maintained by Smogon) isn't a reliable source(Though I think it should be, but Verlisify fans/sympathizers run this site and Serebii, methinks), why is Smogon OK for some reason? They're one and the same, and they cross-reference each other. And have they given permission to use their info? Or is it a case of petty rivalry based on perceived betrayal(s) and flimsy accusations between webmasters that lead to digital Iron Curtains like with Serebii and PokéBeach(That needs to end...That was how many years ago? Talent gets moved around all the time...), and no permission is given/received between them and us? Or should I ask EB/Archaic(To see if he has an old, unnecessary grudge with Smogon's owner, as well)for a more concrete status of Smogon/Showdown? --[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 03:16, 12 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Look. If you're gonna come to my talk page with your mind already set against us like this and just being antagonistic, I'm not gonna be inclined to give you any remotely substantive response.<br />
:Have a good day. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:16, 12 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I apologize for that rant...I had just seen Avengers:Infinity War earlier this week, and it made me...emotional, to say the least. I would like to know why Smogon is a valid source but Showdown isn't, though. ::Again, sorry for that. --[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 01:44, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Source code about source code is a step beyond what we're comfortable with trusting. Put simply, Showdown's accuracy always has to be couched in a caveat. Only the game can truly be trusted to perfectly represent the game. Showdown has had to correct mistakes, and we can't necessarily say where remaining ones are or aren't. It's one thing to look at the ''game'' and say, see, because of this, this is how that works; it's another thing to look at Showdown and say, well, Showdown says this&mdash;and chances are ''pretty good'' it's right. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:03, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Re: {{m|Air Cutter}} trivia ==<br />
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Sorry if my edit summary was unclear. What I meant was, since there are no Triple Battles in Generation VII (set in Alola), Flying-type attacks introduced in that generation can't hit non-adjacent Pokémon (since there are none). So this feature of the move is no longer unique. I'm surprised the trivium hasn't already been removed. [[User:Dinosauramiable|Dinosauramiable]] ([[User talk:Dinosauramiable|talk]]) 21:57, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:If you're talking about a feature unique to Triple Battles, you can't say anything about moves that you can't use in Triple Battles. The inverse is that you can use every other move in Triple Battles to hit non-adjacent foes, and this is not a thing you can rate true/false for new moves because (again) you can't use them in Triple Battles. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:10, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::In that case, the trivium should specify "the only pre-Generation VII damaging Flying-type move" or something instead of "the only damaging Flying-type move"; right now it's misleading. Unless that makes it not notable... [[User:Dinosauramiable|Dinosauramiable]] ([[User talk:Dinosauramiable|talk]]) 22:14, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::It says "in Triple Battles", it's not rightly logical to consider moves you could never use in Triple Battles. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:19, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
Fine. [[User:Dinosauramiable|Dinosauramiable]] ([[User talk:Dinosauramiable|talk]]) 22:19, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Ancient Trait Cards ==<br />
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Dear Tiddlywinks,<br />
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I was hoping you could answer some of my queries:<br />
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1. I have noticed that the Ancient Trait 'variety' of card renowned for its artwork style differences and ancient trait abilities (not included in other card types, though some cross over exists with some Mega Evolution cards also listed as Ancient Trait cards e.g. M Sceptile and M Rayquaza) is not listed as a TCG Pokémon card type, is there a reason for this?<br />
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2. Also should Kingdra's Primal Clash 108 and XY39 (which redirects to Primal Clash 108) cards be listed as separate cards in the Ancient Trait article due to artwork differences or not?<br />
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I look forward to hearing your response,<br />
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Thank you in advance.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 04:19, 14 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I know very little about the TCG. You would do better to ask someone else. Possibly {{u|glik}}, or anyone who regularly contributes to TCG pages. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:19, 14 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:: Thank you for the advice.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 06:07, 14 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Deletions by user:GrammarFreak01 ==<br />
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Thank you for stepping in last time, though GrammarFreak01 has again deleted all of my work leaving a useless comment behind to justify the drastic action. I was concerned maybe what I had written was to detailed, though my additions were in regards to Cameran Palace's various rooms visited in M08. I may be wrong, but I believed at the time of writing that the information was appropriate for the page dedicated to the location. GrammarFreak01 has been advised against such actions and ways to better handle any personal concerns, including contacting the user at hand; none of which has occurred. I do not wish to enter an edit war, and would like my changes reinstated, even if modified, and actions taken against the user for overstepping the mark one too many times. I do not believe the actions are of a personal nature, and have witnessed them against other users. Hope to hear shortly [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:40, 18 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:I did not understand the point of describing every single room inside. And what other users are you talking about? You're making a pretty serious accusation there. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:48, 18 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I'm sorry for not responding sooner. I've been trying to think, and I also haven't heard much from others I've tried to ask. <br />
::My thoughts are, I know that game locations can have pretty detailed descriptions. And the areas that were described do not seem to be accounted for any other way on the page. So it seems to me the additions might be worthwhile.<br />
::I think the best idea may be to try to start a wider discussion about if that's needed. That may be able to inform a stronger conclusion a little while later. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:25, 20 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Hi Tiddlywinks, a bit of an update. I streamlined what I had previously put in, deeming it of value given that these rooms were visited in the movie and having looked at other location pages, such details appear to be of interest. Fantastic news, instead of deleting the new additions, user GrammarFreak01 swapped a few sentences around to give the page a better structure. I'm really happy with the result. I would still have preferred discussion with GrammarFreak01 before deleting all of the additions. I might draft a generalist checklist for any future location pages, unless we already have one of those?. Thanks for getting back to me [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 23:14, 20 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I'm not really into the anime so I don't really know much about specifics of their structure or anything. (Like I didn't know that any other anime locations went into similar details.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:45, 21 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Shipping:List of anime shippings]] ==<br />
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So what's the inclusion criteria for that list? I notice that the content that I deleted obviously has their own articles, but other main character ships like [[PokéShipping]] and [[AmourShipping]] are not included despite having articles of their own. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:06, 19 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:There are two options. Just include any anime shippings like the page title fundamentally implies. Or ask someone who might know what "line" there is (and then also describe that line at the top of the page; although I can't really imagine why there should be any such line). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:19, 19 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I can't imagine doing the second option since it's actually been over a year since there were any edits done to that page before me, so obviously no one's really keeping track of it. I guess I'll go with the first option when I have the time. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:27, 19 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Promotions ==<br />
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Am I allowed to congratulate you on your new administrator status? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 02:53, 28 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Sure. (And thanks.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:53, 28 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Congratulations on your new administrator status! [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 06:03, 28 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Alola League ==<br />
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Why do we not need the thing you removed? It could be helpful. {{unsigned|Elite4Alola}}<br />
:It's already on [[Pokémon League (Alola)]]. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 09:36, 28 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== About the Spaceworld demo... ==<br />
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I want to ask you a question. How can you prove the legitimacy of the ROM? I mean, it fits everything we know about the ROM, and it fits the Honoguma picture that surfaced in 2013, but at the same time it has some some things that sound fanservice-y (Misty as an Elite Four, Red as a Gym Leader...). I'm asking because I'm curious.. --[[User:Prog rocker|Prog rocker]] ([[User talk:Prog rocker|talk]]) 03:19, 2 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I don't know. It's not really my decision. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:59, 2 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Okay, thank you for answering my question.--[[User:Prog rocker|Prog rocker]] ([[User talk:Prog rocker|talk]]) 21:12, 2 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Individual Pokémon in Shuffle weekly cycle ==<br />
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May I know how do we plan to include where/when the Pokémon appears in the "Game location: In side games" section of each individual Pokémon for Pokémon Shuffle? I doubt we need to include the UX Stages since it's the same as the initial Main Stages. Here are a few suggestions for Special Stages:<br />
::Daily, Special Daily, Safari etc. (With form differences):<br />
*Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Special Daily Pokémon (First release)|Special Daily Pokémon}}'' <small>(Winking; First release) <sup>(Prior to February 13, 2018)</sup></small><br>Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Special Daily Pokémon}}'' <small>(Winking; Week 4 & 16) <sup>(From February 13, 2018 onward)</sup></small><br />
*Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Special Daily Pokémon (First release)|Special Daily Pokémon}}'' <small>(Winking; First release)</small>{{tt|*|Prior to February 13, 2018}}<br>Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Special Daily Pokémon}}'' <small>(Winking; Week 4 & 16)</small>{{tt|*|From February 13, 2018 onward}}<br />
*Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Special Daily Pokémon (First release)|Special Daily Pokémon}}'' <small>(Winking; First release — Prior to February 13, 2018)</small><br>Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Special Daily Pokémon}}'' <small>(Winking; Week 4 & 16 — From February 13, 2018 onward)</small><br />
::Daily, Special Daily, Safari etc. (Without form differences):<br />
*Event: ''[[Special Stages#The Daily Pokémon (#6)|The Daily Pokémon (#6)]]'' <sup>(Prior to February 13, 2018)</sup><br />
*Event: ''[[Special Stages#Daily Pokémon|The Daily Pokémon (Week 7 & 19)]]'' <sup>(From February 13, 2018 onward)</sup><br />
::Great, Ultra, Special Challenges etc.<br />
*Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Great Challenge|Mimikyu Appears}}'' <sup>(Prior to February 13, 2018)</sup><br>Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Great Challenge|Mimikyu Appears}}'' <small>(Week 6)</small> <sup>(From February 13, 2018 onward</sup><br />
Or simply just<br />
*Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Great Challenge|Mimikyu Appears}}'' <small>(Week 6)</small><br />
Or do not add anything until how Pokémon Shuffle will display from now onward are fully decided? — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#4B0082;">95</span>]]''' 10:30, 5 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I hardly know anything about Shuffle off the top of my head, honestly. {{u|CycloneGU}} was into Shuffle, but they haven't been that active recently, though I think they've still kind of got an ear to Bulbapedia.<br />
:If you want me to figure it out, I'd start real basic. Like, when you ask "how do we plan to include [...]", it sounds like there's no location info for Shuffle on at least some pages. From above, I can identify {{p|Pikachu}} and {{p|Mimikyu}}, who do seem to have location info, so I'm confused. Are you actually saying that the current info is inadequate? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:54, 6 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Ah, I see. And yeah, haven't seen him around lately. Perhaps I can just leave this on his talk page until he sees it. Currently, the info already on each individual Pokémon pages are Special Stages (Event) that is prior to the update on February 13. Now, the Special Stages are pre-set for each week. I just wanted to ask if Bulbapedia wants to separate them from the two versions. But I guess I'll just leave a message at CycloneGU's talk page. Sorry for bothering. :) — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#4B0082;">95</span>]]''' 12:59, 6 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Template pages ==<br />
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Do templates usually get a move tag if they need to be tagged to be moved? This is because I have noticed that [[Template:Ash and Pikachu characters|two of]] [[Template:Pokémon Battrio characters|them]] had incorrect/incomplete page names and I wasn't sure if those types of tags go on templates aside from normal pages. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 04:07, 6 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Tagging templates can easily be done wrong, so it may be simpler to just bring it up with someone on {{bp|staff}}. (Besides, template names don't really affect a whole lot, people don't really see them, so they may not even be a huge problem, depending.)<br />
:What "should" the linked templates be titled? (And what's wrong with the current title?) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:54, 6 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::The Ash and Pikachu one, it was missing an amphersand sign since the actual manga contained that instead of the original ''and'' and the Battrio manga adaptation one was the one that didn't contain the whole manga title in its name for the template. It was for consistency reasons since many of the other templates containing manga characters had the full titles, such as [[Template:Let's Play the Pokémon Card Game! Sun and Moon Arc characters|this one]]. Hope this helps. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 21:23, 6 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Talk page comment arrangements ==<br />
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In regards to PardescanSlowbro's talk page, I was responding to his comment: ''"I must be dim. I thought you said major appearances equals appearances where the individual was central to the plot? Some of the deleted points may need to be reinstated based solely on this definition."'' How are they going to know which comment I'm referring to if I just post my comment (''"Yes, that is ''exactly'' what I said. There's nothing about the deleted points that would indicate they fall under "major appearances". Can you give any specific examples so I know what exactly you're talking about?"'') at the end of their talk page? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:44, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:How about...''don't'' just post ''"Yes, that is exactly what I said [...]"''. If two people are talking in a group and you want to respond to something one says but they keep talking, you're not just SOL when you get a chance to speak later. Nothing binds you to start without preamble like you would have if you could have responded immediately. It's really not ''that'' hard, just remind them. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:01, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::What rules dictate this? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:06, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Dictate what? If you want to respond without preamble that's your choice, I guess, we don't have a rule about that. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:11, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I meant the whole talk page arrangement in general. It befuddles me how this is possible here. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:14, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::How...responding in order is "possible"? It should be the most basic common sense. Responding ''out'' of order only screws up the order of the people who posted ''before'' you and who you've now forced after ''you''. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:32, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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I would like to jump in here, Tiddlywinks. What GrammarFreak01 is asking is what decision or rule requires Bulbapedia talk pages to have all comments go in order of when they were posted when compared to other wikis where comments are more like branches and split off when multiple users comment on a single reply. Frankly, I am curious as well regarding the order since the discussion on PardescanSlowbro's talk page does not make much sense in the current order, but I believe that there must be a reason for doing it this way. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 20:30, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:"What rule?" More or less just as I and other staff have said: "Comments go in order". The reason is also as I said above: anything else really just screws with everything else. Other wikis are welcome to do what they want. Bulbapedia asks that comments go in order (effectively just like any natural conversation; the entire species has managed to do that fine for a very long time, people can manage here too). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:43, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::But is that in Bulbapedia's actual set of official rules and guidelines? Because if not, I don't see why I or anyone else has to be bound by that. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:09, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::...I'm gonna go with, if staff tells you something and you decide to flout it, it won't turn out very happily for you, regardless of whether there is a strict rule... (At best, I will say that if you're that dubious about something, take it up the chain.)<br />
:::Protip, though: if you're familiar enough with Bulbapedia (and, [[Template:Welcome|ideally]], it ''shouldn't'' really take much "familiarity"), you can answer your own question. And maybe learn a thing or two else in the process. ;) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:16, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I am under the belief that every single rule should at the very least be documented in an official list, that way people can be directed to it if they're confused so they know it's not just something that is simply preferred by certain higher-ups. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:18, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::...Your issue essentially comes down to "I don't trust staff to not be going on a power trip." So I'll tell you what. If you can't trust that someone on staff is telling you something that, for whatever reason, you really do have to follow, then take it up the chain. Maybe they know something written out to point you to, maybe not. But if for whatever reason you can't "trust" something, there are easy enough recourses. (Protip: if you don't want to do it in the open, you can even use PMs on the forums.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:29, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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{{indent}}New comments going at the bottom of a discussion ''is'' written in the talk page policy, [[Bulbapedia:Talk page policy#Editing in sections|under editing in sections]]. As for why, because people are going to look for new comments at the bottom of the conversation, not in the middle.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:36, 10 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Since it's been spoiled =P , I'll leave off with: I'd very earnestly appreciate if you'd take a read through the whole page. If this is one thing you've missed, there may well be other things you can learn. (...Not to mention, if you won't trust if someone just tells you something else down the line, it'd be better for you to just learn for yourself sooner rather than later.) In a similar vein, if you find yourself wondering about {{cat|Bulbapedia policies}}, try to remember that you can check that and other pages we have. Thanks! [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:38, 10 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== In-game trade ==<br />
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I agree about the revert on my change as it was not a future proof way to do it.<br />
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I've added a discussion on the page for that subject and hope it goes in the direction of your comment.<br />
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I'd appreciate to have your feedback whether you agree on the idea or not.<br />
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(I'm still not sure if there's PM so I post this here. Sorry if I goofed up)<br />
[[User:Zanguu|Zanguu]] ([[User talk:Zanguu|talk]]) 16:52, 12 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Re: No article on Aura used by Totem Pokemon/ Ultra Beasts ==<br />
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Hello, I tried to search for articles describing the usage of the aura used by [[Totem Pokémon]] and [[Ultra Beasts]]. There is no article covering this topic. Could I please have your permission on making this page?[[User:Elite4Alola|&#91;&#91;Elite4Alola&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Elite4Alola|talk]]) 08:23, 18 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Mechanically, in the games, aura is pretty simple. Lore-wise, there's a bit more, but still, I don't know. The anime is the thing I really don't know. If you'd like to create a user page so we can see how much and what kind of content there might be, then we can make a better decision about whether it warrants its own page or what. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:38, 18 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I think I'll get back to you on this. I'll will go and do some research first[[User:Elite4Alola|&#91;&#91;Elite4Alola&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Elite4Alola|talk]]) 01:45, 20 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Changes to game location sections ==<br />
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Why should we have one format that's consistent for gift Pokemon, another that's consistent for wild Pokemon, and a whole bunch of locations that don't use any consistent format when we can have one format that's consistent for all locations? <br><br />
On Voltorb's page, why are you using the Frontier Brain template to link to the Power Plant? I don't think the Power Plant is a Frontier Brain. <br><br />
On Golbat's page, why is "Blackthorn City side" in parentheses but "interior" is not? <br><br />
[[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:19, 10 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:"Consistency" is not god. Putting big lines of text in parentheses just looks bad. The parentheticals are only meant to be short&mdash;that's what they've been for a long time, and trades and stuff have used their own format for a long time, and it's been just fine. The short parentheticals do what they need to just fine, they don't need to be twisted to take on more.<br />
:If {{template|FB}} creates an appropriate link, I don't think it's a huge problem.<br />
:"Interior" doesn't need parentheses. It's a simple label that reads very fine without them, the kind of compound you could easily find in normal English text. A compound description like "Blackthorn City side" does not work like that, though. I understand the discrepancy...I considered maybe just using "north" instead or something&mdash;but I didn't want to be more vague (and I guess if ''you've'' been trying to add "actual locations" and all, you wouldn't like that option either) so I figured it'd just have to be what worked. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:30, 10 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::So...very short additional details (like "interior") aren't in parentheses, and very long details (like "received from Professor Sycamore in Lumiose City after defeating him") aren't in parentheses, either? I never thought putting lots of text in parentheses looked bad. Am I the only one who thinks that? Also doesn't using the <nowiki>{{FB</nowiki> template to link to the Power Plant count as a lazy template? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 21:50, 10 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't think those cases are in such a juxtaposable context as that suggests, but you've essentially stated those cases correctly.<br />
:::You question whether you're the only one who doesn't have a problem with lots of text in parentheses. I don't know the answer really, but to turn it in a different direction, it may be fair to say that you may be the only one who has a problem with the outstanding format for the trades and such.<br />
:::You're putting that last question like I should know about it or know how to react or whatever... Is there a specific definition for "lazy template", or......? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:17, 10 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I guess you can say that about me. As for the "lazy templates", this is what I found on the List of Link Templates page: <br />
::::"Although link templates are encouraged in day-to-day usage, it is asked that they are only used for the intended purpose. Any use otherwise may be considered a "laziness template". For example, consider writing <code><nowiki>[[Pokémon Trainer]]</nowiki></code> instead of <code><nowiki>{{g|Trainer}}</nowiki></code>. Usage of laziness templates will be reverted, and offenders will be warned."<br />
::::[[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 23:53, 10 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::It seems FB may be one we specifically let slide. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:16, 11 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Okay. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:39, 11 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Event Pokemon ==<br />
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Hello again. My line on the page for [[Event Pokémon]] said that '''most''' Event Pokemon are mythical but not all. You removed it because not all event Pokemon are Mythical. I was aware of that and I even gave an example in my line and even then, about 85% of Event Pokemon are Mythical. So, why was it removed again? Just curious. Thanks '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 23:13, 14 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I didn't remove it because "not all" are Mythical. I removed it because not "most" are even Mythical. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:18, 14 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::But the big majority of them are. Something about Mythical Pokemon should be added. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 23:44, 14 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't think so. There are all sorts of distributions for regular old Pokemon. I would be quite surprised if Mythicals make close to the 85% you think. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:15, 15 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::The only Pokemon that aren't Mythical are Lugia and Ho-Oh in Gen 3, the two Vivillon patterns, cap Pikachu and Dusk Lycanroc. That's 5 out of 22 (There's 17 Mythicals that are event only) so about 77% Event Pokemon are Mythical to be precise. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 09:04, 15 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::That's very incorrect... For example: [[Eevee (Pokémon)#In events]]. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:37, 15 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I was mainly talking about Event-Exclusive Pokemon, since they're the ones mentioned on the page. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 12:52, 15 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::In that case, you've been using completely the wrong words...<br />
:::::::Mythical Pokemon ''would'' be worth mentioning so long as it's in the appropriate place and using unambiguous language. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:42, 15 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Ah. Apologies if I was using the wrong words. I'll add a bit about them. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 14:32, 15 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Type page discussion ==<br />
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I already [[User talk:Glik/Archive July 2015-May 2018|discussed this]] with glik. Is there anything else you want to tell me? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 03:42, 17 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:You practically neutered the sections you edited. I said it would be better to start a discussion. That way there's something everyone can easily see if they wonder in the future. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:38, 17 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I already started at least 3 discussions. One here, one on glik's talk page, and one on Normal (type)'s talk page. What else do you want me to discuss? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 15:56, 17 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Oh, I didn't know there was anything on the talk page. I've given a response. I may have lost track of it before or something, I don't know. Sorry. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:55, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Signature ==<br />
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Is my signature ok?[[User:Форс файре|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''Ф'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">орс</span>]][[User talk:Форс файре|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''Ф'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">айре</span>]] 18:22, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, it's good. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:36, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Creating Japanese voice actor articles ==<br />
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Hey! After remembering [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:GrammarFreak01/Archive_1#Creating_pages your response] to my creation of the [[Ash's Pikachu (M20)]] article, I've decided to come to you about creating new pages. I'm thinking of creating a couple of pages or so on Japanese voice actors, starting with [[Haruka Tomatsu]]. Is that okay? Is there an article creation procedure that I need to follow? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 19:32, 25 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:The requirements for VA pages are described at [[Bulbapedia:Project VA]]. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:30, 26 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Okay, thank you for the heads-up! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:41, 26 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Cynthia being Verity's mother ==<br />
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I understand that there are conflicting sources about this whole matter, and that is why I think you should perhaps work to debunk the source I just mentioned first before we all move forward. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:39, 26 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Let me ask: let's just suppose that all we could ever have would be these two conflicting pieces of "evidence": what would you think would be best for Bulbapedia to do? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:52, 26 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Discuss it and investigate which source holds more veracity? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:01, 26 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::That seems like it's ultimately down to pretty much opinion... It can be very easy for people to be loud and determined in their positions. I don't think your solution is a strong solution. But for now I will take the simple route and give you a bit of reasoning in the vein of your desired approach.<br />
:::The director's word is currently verifiable, whereas the other source is only secondhand information. Perhaps you have heard the maxim, "Trust but verify"? I cannot, personally, tell you anything reliable about the claim that Cynthia is Verity's mother, but I can answer anything you want to ask about the director's refutation of that theory. If information cannot be independently evaluated by anyone with the desire/ability (and therefore argued with nuance in its own right), then it's a decidedly imperfect source. Sometimes that's all we have. That's not the case here, though. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:31, 26 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Mallow Tsareena Sweet Scent ==<br />
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Hi. So in SM082 Mallow's Tsareena does something that some would describe as Sweet Scent, as it has a similar appearance and effect to how the move was used in its pre-evolved forms. PlayerKing95 has removed it because we don't have enough proof, despite the evidence pointing towards it. I, as well as another user, has reached out to him to discuss it. It has been about a week now and he has ignored multiple messages to resolve this issue, and it is making me think that he will continue to ignore messages because it means the page can't be changed. Could I get some help with this? Thank you for your time.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 18:11, 1 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I saw you've asked ForceFire too and gotten a response. I wasn't immediately sure how it fits in our policy, and I still haven't checked the episode or anything, but since ForceFire has responded I'll leave it to him now. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:58, 4 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Type pages again ==<br />
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Is there anything you still want to talk about? Can I start editing all the types now? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:01, 4 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thank you for asking. And I'm very sorry I haven't devoted time to it (once again) for so long.<br />
:Anyway, I've responded to the last comment and I think you can make edits if you try to follow the examples on [[Talk:Normal (type)]], unless you yourself have other pressing questions. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:58, 4 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Stat averages of types ==<br />
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How did you calculate the stat averages of each type? You said poison had the lowest average speed, but the Bulbapedia articles say a few other types (such as rock) have even lower speed. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 19:43, 9 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I used the averages from each type page. Apparently I made a surprising typo with Poison's speed; I typed 30 instead of 80 (I couldn't say how, 3 and 8 aren't close, possibly I just misread it or something). Rock is right. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:31, 9 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== questions about hidden items in games ==<br />
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if an item is like inside a rock would i describe it as 'in the rock' or 'on the rock'? Also if you get an item from an npc should i use 'obtain' or 'receive'? {{unsigned|EternalDragonX}}<br />
:It's not like you pick up the rock or break it or anything special. The only thing that makes sense is "on". [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:12, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::ok 'on' it is. also u didnt answer my second question if someone gives u an item do we use 'receive' or 'obtain'? - [[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 19:30, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Usually it's not necessary at all. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:09, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::u mean neither is necessary? so in the [[Pallet Town]] items section where all the items begin with "obtained from.." i should delete the "obtained" and just leave it "from x"? - [[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 06:56, 26 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::There are some cases, like if it's a ''reward'', where I might feel like specifying that, but even more specific things like probably aren't necessary. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:39, 26 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== repeated links in item lists ==<br />
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are they bad or good? - [[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 21:39, 23 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:IMO it's usually a little better than making someone look for the first link in the box when they're reading a specific line. And it's how I always saw them so IMO it's fine. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:12, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::But shouldn't we still avoid deliberately adding new ones? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:38, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I personally am very likely to link every line myself. There have definitely been pages where I had a problem like, "Ugh, Beauty's not linked, alright which random item referenced some Beauty or other in this whole list..." [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:03, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Well, I guess we both have different viewpoints on this subject, and I can definitely understand your viewpoint. I just personally don't prefer the same link popping up again and again. Let's just leave the whole thing be. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:15, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::allrightey finnish u heard what the man said i will be linking every single damn link i see in every single item list i can find. :) - [[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 19:33, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I hope you also noticed my reply. Please don't go overboard. And '''please''', start using big capital letters! It's bothering me! --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:54, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::FYI I think there can be a few links that would be kind of useless. Like, say, caught Pokemon, that would probably be pointless to link repeatedly. Useful links are key, unnecessary ones just get in the way. If I had to try to classify it, that might mean mainly tangible things. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:09, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== X-type vs. X type ==<br />
<br />
I was under the impression that the word "Pokémon" or "move" or whatever had to actually ''be'' there in order for it to be "X-type" instead of "X type". I even said so to {{user|GrammarFreak01}} when they asked me about it on my talk page. Just watch the {{series|Sun & Moon}} Pokédex entries. They seem to be agreeing with me, since in them, it's always "<Pokémon>, the <category name> Pokémon. A(n) X type". The subtitles have confirmed that it's "X type", not "X-type". --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:37, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:It seems even the games have some rare examples of this, like [[Acerola]], ''"And your Rotom is a Ghost type, too!"''. I think this is poorly thought out and fundamentally wrong, but I will leave it there and I won't argue with it beyond that. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:03, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks. So I take that I can undo your undoings on the memory articles? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:15, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Done. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:09, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:50, 26 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Move policy ==<br />
<br />
While I understand what you are trying to accomplish with this new rule, I honestly see the forbiddence of using one's own head while determining unnamed moves as absurd.<br><br />
First off: you removed {{m|Psycho Cut}} and {{m|Air Slash}}, when they '''fit''' one of the categories you named. Psycho Cut has been used in the Sun & Moon series before, with identical animation, and so has Air Slash, even to the point where it was used in the '''very same episode''', in case the comparison couldn't be easier!<br><br />
Second: why is the use of common sense apparently forbidden in this issue? Like, what else could Necrozma's laser-like move '''be''' than its own signature move {{m|Prismatic Laser}}? Why can't [[Mallow's Tsareena]]'s {{m|Sweet Scent}} be confirmed as such, when we've seen it being used in an '''identical way''' by its two pre-evolutions?<br><br />
Third: we rely '''way''' too much on subtitles when it comes to identifying unnamed moves. I'm telling you, some of these "confirmations" should be taken with a '''serious''' grain of salt. For example, why does Litten/Torracat know so many different slashing/scratching moves? Shouldn't we just go with the move that's actually named out loud? In some cases, these "confirmations" haven't even come in episodes where the move is used for the first time, like [[Nebby]]'s crying being suddenly classified as "{{m|Supersonic}}", which should be an even further indication that the subtitles aren't as reliable as some want to believe. And what about the cases when the subtitles fail to recognize something what is undoubtedly a move '''as''' a specific move? What then? What about [[Lusamine]]'s {{p|Salazzle}}'s attack from [[SM053]], which could easily be {{m|Sludge Wave}}? Why wasn't [[Kiawe's Marowak]]'s {{m|Bonemerang}} named in its debut episode, despite clearly being used in it (further evidence for the unreliability of subtitles), with the subtitlers rather labeling {{m|Headbutt}} as a move, although it has never been commanded to to be used out loud (thus indicating that it was just a generic headbutt and not a move), while all of Marowak's other moves have, which, based on the fact that anime has been sticking to the "only four moves at a time" policy from the games for a good while already, as evidenced by, say [[Ash's Pikachu]]? So, in short, I consider that subtitles '''can''' be used as '''help''' while identifying unnamed moves, but they shouldn't be trusted blindly. And if something that resembles a move is used without it being named by the dialogue '''or''' the subtitles, it should '''seriously''' be discussed and determined.<br><br />
I honestly feel that Bulbapedia is actively hurting itself removing all this information. Please. Try to understand my points. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:49, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I totally agree with [[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] statement, especially in the upcoming episode of Poipole World that is going even more '''serious''' discussion and debate, wheather that location is [[Ultra Megalopolis]] or another unknown location that only appears in the anime-exclusive. So many questions to answers. It just really don't know, where it going to end. [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 06:04, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::FinnishPokéFan92: you say that Psycho Cut and Air Slash fit a category I named. In my last message on your talk page I left two bullet points on your page in a "simple" criteria for the policy; can you please quote the one that you say fits?<br />
::I'm going to put off touching the rest until that is answered. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:45, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Questions about files ==<br />
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How do I change files on Bulbapedia? Am I allowed to change this file if it looks different in my copy of Emerald? <br>[[File:Hoenn Route 132 RSE.png|80px]]<br>[[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 03:53, 13 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:That's an RSE map. If it's different in Emerald, it may still be accurate for R/S, so it may not be right to upload over it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:44, 14 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::What's the answer to my first question? How do I know if it's accurate for RS, and what do I do after I find out? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:00, 14 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::How is it different in Emerald? Is it possible for you to upload an image to show what is different?--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:18, 14 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::How do I change files on Bulbapedia? Do you want me to upload it directly to Bulbapedia or upload it to Imgur and link to it here? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:39, 14 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Bulbapedia files are on the Archives. If you're not certain about something, using a simple image hoster temporarily is probably best. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:46, 14 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::[https://i.imgur.com/VPstLqb.png the image] So far, the only difference I've noticed is the arrangement of the current tiles leading from the east end to Fisherman Ronald. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 00:31, 16 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Sorry for being late, I got busy a bit and forgot.<br />
:::::::Is that your own image? I think Emerald ''is'' different, but I do not think that is an accurate image from Emerald. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:46, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::How do I make sure that image is accurate? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:41, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Are you asking how to check it? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:10, 23 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Yes. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:35, 23 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::Well...I mean, does that mean you didn't take the image yourself? (If you did it should be "accurate".) If not, you can only compare the currents very closely. It may help to blow up your image so you can see the detail better. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:21, 23 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::I didn't take it myself. I don't know if it's accurate; I only know that it's ''more accurate'' than the current (yes pun intended) one on Bulbapedia. How can I take a screenshot myself? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:09, 23 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::There's one small area that's different between the images, and that difference isn't accurate to either game as I know them, so I'm not sure it's more accurate. But anyway...<br />
:::::::::::::Emulators usually have ways to take screenshots I think, but if that's not what you're using, you usually need a capture card. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:16, 23 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::::Can I do anything if I have neither an emulator nor a capture card? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:32, 23 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::::I don't think so? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:44, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== item split proposal ==<br />
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in this items section: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Hoenn_Route_104#Items the hidden items for gen 3 and gen 6 are put together because theyre the same items, but i want to propose that its better to split them up. for gen 6 the description would remain the same but for gen 3 i would put a more specific description like "three squares east of fisherman" or something so it would be easier to find them. what do you think? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 08:58, 20 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:FWIW it is possible to be equally specific for Gen VI. But...I was of the same mind before. It was decided that it's better to just be generic and keep to one entry if possible. (I have a secret desire to some day just make versions of the game maps with all items explicitly labeled including marking hidden items.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:46, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::curious how u would be specific for gen 6 since u might hold the direction key a bit too long or short and be off by a bit from the location. also okay i will just leave the items generic the way they are --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 06:56, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::The descriptors shouldn't be overly specific (like three squares to the left). "Holding the direction key for too long" is not the fault of the description, that's on the player.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 08:20, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::u mean they shouldnt be overly specific for non hidden items right? For hidden items I feel like they should be.. cuz thats what ive been doing for all my hidden item edits so far lol --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 08:53, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::If you can hold the key too long in ORAS/XY, you can do the same in any previous games. Gen VII is the only time where you've had NO discrete steps.<br />
:::::I don't care if directions for hidden items are specific where they're the same in any games they appear in. If they would be different (and therefore require different entries or other complications), they should just be generic. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:26, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::i understand that a description for a hidden item should be generic if the item appears in multiple games to avoid different entries. i wanna know how you would make a specific description in oras/xy. would you just say like "three steps east of fisherman"? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 13:01, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::What do you mean how? If the item is located 3 steps east of a fisherman, then "three steps east of fisherman" would be accurate. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:16, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::hmm i dont know, i just feel like pre gen 6 its very clearly defined what a step is cuz you would just press a direction key once and you would always be on a certain square. in gen 6 i can tap the direction key gently and i go a tiny distance or i may accidentally hold it for a millisecond longer and go a further distance. my point is that i dont really agree about your point of "if you hold it too long in gen 6, you can in the previous games" --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:40, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::I think you must be confusing Gen VI and VII. I would suggest getting out XY/ORAS and trying to move a step. It is not hard. The movement grid was not removed until Gen VII (though they did let you "break" it in XYORAS). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:10, 23 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::EternalDragon, "pressing the directional button for too long" is not our problem. It's not the fault of the wiki. That's the fault of the player. We cannot control how "long" a player presses a button. It's simply not an issue.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:59, 23 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Anime moves SM088==<br />
Hey, I wanted to ask about a couple of moves and whether you think they can identified and be added to their respective articles.<br />
* Flash Cannon (used by Solgaleo)<br />
* Moonblast (used by Lunala)<br />
* Air Slash (used by Lunala)<br />
* Prismatic Laser (used by Necrozma)<br />
I think the former two can be identified, because of unique animation. They both look identical to how they have always appeared in the past; Flash Cannon is a silver beam of energy and Moonblast is a pink orb of energy while the moon is shown in the background. Additionally, Flash Cannon and Moonblast have already been used in the Sun & Moon series (by Sophocles's Metang and Lusamine's Clefable). Solgaleo and Lunala's attacks matched the appearance of their respective moves.<br />
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Air Slash has been used by Gladion's Silvally. Lunala's attack looked identical to this one.<br />
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While Prismatic Laser has not appeared yet in the anime, it looks like the move's appearance in the games. I decided to include this one, because of the recent discussion on Sunsteel Strike, which you approved because it matched its game animation.<br />
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So, what do you think? [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 16:24, 23 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Relatively simple energy beams are always iffy to me. But you do say Flash Cannon's been seen before; would you be able to tell me what episodes and an episode where it's explicitly identified/called?<br />
:I like the moon element for Moonblast, that seems like a solid differentiator. Would you also be able to tell me somewhere it's been explicitly ID'd just so there's one more bit of evidence?<br />
:Air Slash, I'm really not sure. If it's not unique enough to be added to the whitelist in its own right, then I worry about how any change would play out considering what happened with {{m|Psycho Cut}} for [[SM053]] previously. I and/or we (meaning everyone who usually adds moves and gave it a pass) need to figure out why that sort of error was made and how to avoid anything similar if the rules will change.<br />
:Sunsteel Strike (FWIW) wasn't approved just because it matched its animation, but because that animation was also quite distinct from any other move.<br />
:Anyway, I'll take a good look at the moves and see what I think, and see if the rest of staff has any input. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:44, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Flash Cannon was used and called in SM086 (near the end of the episode against Team Rocket) and in SM088 (around the 9-minute mark against Necrozma). Moonblast was used in SM053, also near the end of the episode. This one was identified by the dub's closed captions. [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 14:55, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Silvally was ordered to use Air Slash in the same episode where Lunala used it. The animation and colors are identical, so I'd consider it confirmed. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:04, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Battle Frontier articles ==<br />
<br />
May I know why you deleted the articles on the Battle Frontier facilities which were created by {{u|TehPerson}}? The reason you provided on your edit summary makes zero amount of sense considering way back in '''2013''' {{u|SnorlaxMonster}} approved the split. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 14:43, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Immediately apparent here is a really big assumption on your part.<br />
:Namely: that I know what you are referring to when you say SM approved it in 2013.<br />
:Perhaps you could help by pointing to where that was? (In the future as well, if you can, essentially, "source" your comments with links or something, that can help a lot if someone else doesn't know what you're referring to (which is probably not a good assumption to make usually).) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:53, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Is it so hard to go to the talk page and search for a comment SM left in 2013? Apparently so. [[Talk:Battle Frontier (Generation III)#Splitting suggestion|Here you have it]]. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 14:57, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I'm not going to reward that attitude by doing work for you... Either I can spend who-knows-how-long to look for something you know and I don't every time you do anything like this, or I can try to prompt you to remember to provide these answers yourself sooner rather than later. It shouldn't be a horrible courtesy I'm asking. If you wish to respond to my request, I will be happy to respond further, otherwise, you'll have to be satisfied with what you can make from this. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:03, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::What are you even talking about now? I responded to your request and provided a link. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 15:07, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Yeah. I realized that just posting. I apologize, I seem to have missed the link at the end of your message. I think when I saw that my mind thought it was a signature. (Again...the abrasive attitude didn't help anything either, though.)<br />
:::::So, it shouldn't really be hard to imagine, but I did not read that part of the talk page when I checked to see if the split that TehPerson had performed was approved. (I don't really understand why you might think I would have seen it and ignored it, certainly without explicitly acknowledging it.)<br />
:::::For what it's worth, the Generation IV pages do not seem to have been approved. Also, SnorlaxMonster's message said "'''we''' can make progress", which does not necessarily mean "proceed entirely at your own discretion". Beyond which, 5 years is a long time. If TehPerson knew about that message, it still would have been very reasonable to ask someone on {{bp|staff}} directly (perhaps even SnorlaxMonster himself) just to check, even referencing SnorlaxMonster's old comment. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:17, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::So you're essentially saying that you, by clicking on a button, undid all the hard work TehPerson put on creating those pages because you failed to read the talk page? Is that correct?<br />
::::::What SM really said in that comment is that the split hadn't been performed yet because '''we''' didn't have all the necessary pages ready. '''We''' made progress when TehPerson went and created those pages.<br />
::::::Anyway, are you going to undo your own edits now? At least the Generation III pages have been approved. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 15:33, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I read the talk page. Sorry if I'm not perfect. That's why all you beautiful people are here to help. (Though I'd appreciate it a bit more if it was rendered with less hostility. =P )<br />
:::::::I'm not going to undo anything right now. There's no great rush.<br />
:::::::I'm just going to wait until I know for sure what our decision is rather than presume. Patience. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:46, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Professor Willow special research ==<br />
Hi, I followed the pre-existing format for "A Mythical Discovery" which was omitting the very last sentence of each phase and used bullet points for items. Should you want to reintroduce correct phrasing, you may find video reference for the following researches:<br />
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEjrqrBi1iM GO Fest 2018]<br />
*[https://youtu.be/_WsWgCIaixk Yokosuka]<br />
Also you removed "Special Research" from "A Mythical Discovery" and "A Ripple in Time" but not from "Go FEST 2018" and "Pokémon GO Safari Zone in YOKOSUKA", was this intended? [[User:JaxomNC|JaxomNC]] ([[User talk:JaxomNC|talk]]) 03:57, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:There is no format to "follow" for quotes except to represent as precisely as possible what a character's dialogue actually shows. We don't want to invent anything where there is no need, we want to document the game faithfully. (And Willow's dialogue for the Mythical Discovery steps did not have any "last sentence" with all the tasks, it did actually list the tasks on their own lines (with no bullet points).)<br />
:Thanks for the links. Like I said, I deferred any substantial edits to the two variants until I had seen them myself (because, as I said, they should reflect as precisely as possible what the game shows). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:35, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Notability ==<br />
<br />
Hello! I saw that you undid a revision I made on [[Trainers' School (Alola)]] due to notability. I'm still new here and figuring out the conventions, and I couldn't find a solid answer on the [[Bulbapedia:Notability requirements]] page. What typically makes something not notable? Was there anything specific about that change that I should avoid doing in the future? Thank you! [[User:Butterfreeism|<span style="color:#625B7C">'''–Bu<span style="color:#C05751">tt<span style="color:#5A93AE">erfr</span>ee</span>ism'''</span>]] 01:27, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I was mostly using notable as a common word rather than in the specific sense on the page you linked. It's just kind of pointless to note that [whatever] is only found in "this" area. Either the person is already there and will find the Pokemon if they want to, or they're not (or they may leave and forget) and if they want to find that Pokemon there's a very convenient species page where they will be well able to find a location where they can look for it, regardless of whether there's one place or more. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:06, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Understood! Thanks for the insight! :) [[User:Butterfreeism|<span style="color:#625B7C">'''–Bu<span style="color:#C05751">tt<span style="color:#5A93AE">erfr</span>ee</span>ism'''</span>]] 06:57, 10 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Oluolu ==<br />
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The [[SM091|newest episode of the anime]] confirms that exclusive Z-Moves need specific moves as their basis in the anime too. Should this count as a sign that [[Oluolu]]'s {{p|Snorlax}} knows {{m|Giga Impact}} to perform {{m|Pulverizing Pancake}}, despite it never having been seen using Giga Impact? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:48, 8 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I'll see if the rest of staff have any qualms about it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:42, 8 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks. I'll be waiting.<br />
::Oh, and I also remembered: doesn't this also mean that [[Nebby]] learned {{m|Sunsteel Strike}} immediately after evolving in [[SM052]], given how it was able to perform {{m|Searing Sunraze Smash}} in the same episode? And, by extension, shouldn't that be proof that the move Nebby used in [[SM053]] wasn't just "a glowing headbutt"? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:24, 8 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::No... Even supposing Nebby knew Sunsteel Strike, there's no reason to assume that's what it was doing. There are very unique parts of Sunsteel Strike that were not at all seen there; that's a huge leap of logic. Frankly, there's no reason to assume Nebby was using any move, as opposed to just building up power and smashing through the rock. Not everything HAS to be a move. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:31, 8 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Your scepticism is way too over the top... --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:43, 8 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I don't exactly want to "shout", but I'm honestly a little astounded if you don't understand this huge point... '''"There are very unique parts of Sunsteel Strike that were not at all seen"'''. That's not overly skeptical, that's ''only'' reasonable. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:56, 8 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Oh, I'm sorry (like, not sarcastic or anything), in the midst of my reaction above, I did forget to mention... Yes, it's okay to say that a Pokemon knows the base move if it uses an exclusive Z-Move. (It doesn't count as a use of the base move in and of itself, though. For that it'd have to be identifiable by the same criteria as any anime move.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:52, 8 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Undoing edits ==<br />
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Regarding the edit you [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_Generations&diff=2858945&oldid=2858907 undid] on the [[Pokémon Generations]] page.<br />
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Why?<br />
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Maybe Bulbapedia doesn't make it a priority to use dashes the way style guides recommend, and maybe we're not going to make a [[wp:MOS:DASH|policy]] to "enforce" proper usage. But what reason is there to enforce it in the opposite direction? Where's the Bulbapedia policy on that? Just because an edit didn't need to be done, doesn't mean it needs to be ''un''done.<br />
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I don't know if Bulbapedia has an explicitly-stated equivalent policy, but Wikipedia has certain guidelines with regards to undoing people's edits. Per [[wp:WP:REVERT#Before reverting|WP:REVERT]]:<br />
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''"Consider carefully before reverting, as it rejects the contributions of another editor. […] In the edit summary or on the talk page, succinctly explain why the change you are reverting was a bad idea or why reverting it is a better idea."''<br />
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"We don't normally bother with that" isn't good enough. Why is undoing it better than leaving it alone? How is the article improved by your reversion? — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 18:54, 10 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I guess I'm just responding to your logic. You said/are saying that endash is the "right" thing to use, meaning it should always be used. I don't think there's actually a passive/lazy middle ground like you're suggesting.<br />
:And IMO it's really not worth making anyone type out "ndash" or copy the right symbol. Not when I'm sure most people wouldn't even notice any difference just reading either version, or have ''any'' idea that it's a "thing" (meaning there'd just have to be other people watching out for it all the time&mdash;again, not worth it). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:58, 10 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::What you're saying is, in your opinion, it wasn't worth it to make the edit. That was already established. That doesn't explain why it's worth it to undo. [[wp:WP:DONTREVERT|Don't revert edits just because they're not a significant improvement.]] —&nbsp;[[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 04:07, 11 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::We are not Wikipedia. We have our rules, and they have there's. The point TiddlyWinks is trying to make is that you didn't have to make the edit in the first place. It was unnecessary, that's why it was reverted.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:58, 11 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I would add, it's "worth" undoing because a mix of styles is not "good" either. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:21, 11 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::You guys aren't very good at clicking links, are you?<br />
:::::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Revert_only_when_necessary#Bad_reasons_to_revert<br />
:::::''"Do not revert an edit because that edit is unnecessary"''<br />
:::::I don't know how it could possibly be any clearer. Just because an editor isn't following ''your'' agenda, doesn't mean it's your responsibility to stamp them out. This is a wiki. It's collaborative.<br />
:::::And as far as the "mix of styles" argument, there are two reasons why that's nonsense. First, because "most people wouldn't even notice any difference just reading either version," as ''you'' said. No reader would ever see that dash and think, "That needs to be changed to a hyphen," yet you made that change anyway. And second, why should we be complacent about this punctuation issue but not others? Even if "most people" don't know or care about the difference between ''its'' and ''it's'', we still want our articles to look like they're written by people who do, which is why we don't reintroduce errors after people fix them. —&nbsp;[[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 14:55, 11 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::News flash: we are not beholden to Wikipedia. (Which ForceFire already pointed out.)<br />
:::::For the rest: refer again to my original explanation of why it's ''not worth'' it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:22, 11 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Not-up-to-standards Messages- SM075 - SM088 ==<br />
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Hi Tiddlywinks,<br />
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I am messaging you in regards to the not up to standards messages on the sm075 through to sm088 episode plot pages. They were placed on the respective pages by GrammarFreak01 several weeks ago, and have yet to be rectified. I had earlier attempted to edit the sm075 plot, but the not up to standards message was reinstated by GrammarFreak01. I don't feel the current alerts are necessary to begin with as most of the pages were edited in response to FinnishPokeFan92's concerns, but I want the best result. As the user suggested, and because he is busy, could you or ForceFire look over those pages and make the necessary changes to delete the alerts? [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 23:58, 12 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:Let me clarify that the tags are up there because there are some leftover errors that were most likely missed during the cleanup process. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:06, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Version Exclusive as Trivia ==<br />
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I've seen that you deleted my added trivia fact on the Pokémon Blue Japanese version page. I do agree that this fact may not be trivia-worthy, however on the Pokémon Yellow page, there is an exact same trivia fact on Farfetch'd. Perhaps it would benefit consistency to delete the trivia-fact from that page too then? <br />
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''Out of all the [[core series]] [[Generation I]] games, this is the only one where {{p|Jynx}} can be caught in the wild; in the Japanese {{2v2|Red|Green}} as well as in the {{game|Red and Blue|s|Western Red and Blue}}, this Pokémon is only available by means of an [[in-game trade]]. In {{game|Yellow}} Jynx is unobtainable altogether.''<br />
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I think the 'uniqueness' in this regard is that Jynx cannot be caught in the wild in ANY International version of the games and Farfetch'd cannot be caught in ANY Japanese version. Not sure whether later games have this kind of trade-only Pokémon across all core games within one generation. Obviously it's all not that important, but the wiki is at a state right now where only small improvements are necessary, so we got the time to nitpick. {{unsigned|Malzagath}}<br />
:Feel free to remove it.<br />
:FWIW, if I weren't tired I might be able to follow my own train of thought all the way through on these and give more explanation or ''possibly'' change my mind a bit somehow...but here we are for now. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:35, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== "No exclusions" (Meltan thing) ==<br />
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[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Meltan_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=2882460&oldid=2882156 How is it excluding anything?] I fail to see how it's different compared to similar trivia for starters, legendaries, and "of all [insert type here] Pokemon." [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:14, 19 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I misspoke. The only mosts/leasts that should exist should be overall and for types. That's what I meant to get at (so those things you mentioned shouldn't be on pages).<br />
:"No exclusions" is just really easy to say and it's the first thing I think of (especially as it was the first thing that really started bugging me about the stat trivia). I don't think I've had to deal with it recently so...I guess I just didn't think it through. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:35, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== LGPE Stats template ==<br />
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Are there any actual problems on the merits with the [[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:SadisticMystic/LGPEStats]] template? Instead of having a note under the statboxes that it doesn't compute LGPE max stats correctly, I figured it might be worth computing stats under the LGPE formula correctly. [[User:SadisticMystic|SadisticMystic]] ([[User talk:SadisticMystic|talk]]) 23:52, 23 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I haven't evaluated it. But templates can be done in ill-advised ways. (We have done that and had to correct things as Bulbapedia grew. And we're still not perfect.) So we can't just have people throwing anything together and spreading it everywhere. It's great if you want to make a template, you just need to ask for it to be approved before you can use it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:07, 24 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Fossil Pages ==<br />
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Hiya, any developed thoughts on splitting the Fossil pages? It'd also help lessen the chance of accidental redirects (e.g. [[Dome Fossil]] leads to [[Dome and Helix Fossils]]). Also, I think the Berry page template could use a similar update (see my suggestion at [[User talk:Force Fire#Berry Template update]]). Lemme know your thoughts. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 01:06, 1 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:They are mainspaced. I would ask you to double-check the previous paired pages (like by checking their history since you created the split pages) for anything that was updated that didn't make it to the new pages.<br />
:(I think you also asked about unneeded pages in your userspace. I'll deal with those. But I hope you're also currently remembering the proper way to mainspace pages (not just copy/pasting content, that is).) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:26, 2 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks! And yup, I'll see to it that doesn't happen again. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 16:49, 2 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Long overdue, but I remembered your userpages today: done. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:16, 5 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Master Trainer movesets ==<br />
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I don't think that Master Trainer movesets need to be put on location pages. The "Master Trainer" link under each Trainer's name will lead to the article where the movesets are listed anyway. What you're suggesting is nothing more than waste of space in my opinion. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:40, 19 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:We thought the movesets were important enough to be needed on their page. It doesn't make any sense that we would skip the same movesets on their location pages then. If I expect movesets anywhere, it's on the locations really; my original opinion was that the movesets belonged on the location pages and, on the master trainer page, people could just follow links to those pages to find the movesets instead of wasting space ''there''. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:20, 19 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Well, too bad for you, because the movesets are listed there now, and it's honestly saving space on location pages. Those Trainers aren't notable enough to deserve moveset templates on location pages. Besides, there's over a hundred of them. It simply isn't worth the effort. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:37, 19 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::The list was made with the intention of not needing to bring them up in the location pages. Because there are many Master Trainers that can be found in any given location, and they are relatively minor characters compared to, say, {{ga|Trace}} or the [[Elite Four]], I believe it would be better for users to refer to the Master Trainer page for quick reference. - [[User:Chosen|<span style="color:#EE99AC">Chosen</span>]] <span style="color:#6890F0">of</span> [[User talk:Chosen|<span style="color:#F8D030">Mana</span>]] 16:53, 19 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I do not think it is at all logical for us to say, we need more than just a bare bones party listing on the Master Trainer page, but for locations that's totally fine. I could be open to some alternate solution, but it does not make sense to me to treat them differently only on locating pages. Either both places only need the party listing, or both places need something more. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:03, 19 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Chosen was the one who made the Master Trainer list, and he has given his judgement on this matter. Please accept it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:46, 20 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I'll start by apologizing. There are some more or less specific circumstances when I leave an edit summary blank (compared to my normal habit of writing something no matter the edit); this can often be some combination of lack of time/energy, or my thoughts being in tones I don't really want to write, and/or just feeling like there's too much to say. Normally I figure it'll turn out more or less alright. And...honestly, with a discussion already going here (and you having given no response here at the time), I really thought you'd find a moment to talk a bit here before things went altogether too far. But it was pointed out to me that my empty edit summaries probably didn't help anything, ultimately resulting in the mess now in Route 4's history. After reflecting, I have to agree that I can do better; in the future, I will. (I'm going to attempt to leave my comment on your behavior at: I hope you realize there's some reflecting you can do too.)<br />
::::::On to the issue itself!<br />
::::::You're claiming that as the creator of the page, Chosen should have all say over how it (or anything related to it...) works. That's not at ''all'' how Bulbapedia works...<br />
::::::Beyond that, it's also not really your place to enforce Chosen's will. Especially when I really don't think Chosen position was that the page MUST be changed back immediately.<br />
::::::I'll end by re-emphasizing my last comment from before. An ALTERNATE should be very possible (i.e., a compromise). It doesn't have to be your way or the highway. As a starting point at least, I'd just ask you to recongize that. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:30, 21 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== USUM Fashion Items ==<br />
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I am exploring ways to expand the fashion item tables in [[Fashion item]] to include USUM-exclusive items and came up with two different ways to do so, all summarized in [[Talk:Fashion item#USUM fashion items]]. Given that you created the page in the first place, I would like to hear your input regarding the matter (preferably by posting on that talk page, rather than here). [[User:SilSinn9801|--SilSinn (Pokémon Sun TID: 768426&#59; Pokémon Ultra Moon TID: 123446)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 05:50, 20 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:This is the last thing I have gotten to this morning... I'll examine it later. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:43, 20 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I'm sorry, I forgot about this.<br />
::The first tables just seem terribly wasteful with the availability columns only having one half or the other used at a time. The second set seems smarter, though in that there shouldn't be any need for sups on the USUM items if there's a divider explaining exactly the same thing already. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:05, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::OK, so I discard the extra-column version and proceed with the second version. Given that, in the current tables, all fashion items listed under SM are also available in USUM and that items exclusive to Sun are also exclusive to USun (and those exclusive to Moon are also exclusive to UMoon), I think the current [[Template:Fashion/header|Fashion/header template]] can be updated to match my [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/headerUSUM|Fashion/headerUSUM template]]. Is it safe for me to update that template, given that such template is only being transcluded into one article (the one we want to update)? Or should I leave that matter to you as the author of the original template?<br />
:::Since the divider is a template (the one I called <del>Fashion/middle; shall I rename it instead </del>Fashion/divider<del>?</del>), do you give it approval to mainspace it? Or, what if I remove the divider and use instead the sups on the new items (on which case the divider template remains in my space)? It’s up to you to decide what you prefer. (At least I determined that the divider doesn’t affect table sortability, although its presence sometimes results in some very annoyingly interesting results when playing with column sorting.)<br />
:::And as for the current [[Template:Fashion/footer|Fashion/footer template]], can I also update it to match my [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/footerUSUM|Fashion/footerUSUM template]] (unless you want to rewrite some of the wording there, on which case I leave the update to you)? In the meantime, I will proceed to furnish the other updated tables, using the second format which you called smarter. --[[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn]] (TIDs: 768426<b><sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup></b>, 123446<b><sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup></b>) ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 04:10, 27 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Also, for at least <del>two</del> three male items (the Water Shoes, <del>and</del> the Nylon Backpack, and the Baseball Hat), I had to create another template, '''[[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/s2|Fashion/s2]]''', to allow dual pricing on a single slot (blank price in SM because of default availability, numeric price in USUM because you have to buy them in USUM). This template will also need approval for mainspacing. As for the other two templates, '''[[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/divider|Fashion/middle]]''' and '''[[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/su|Fashion/su]]''', a decision has to be made first: Do we keep the divider and drop the sups ''(on which case Fashion/middle would need to be approved/&#x200b;mainspaced and <del>possibly</del> renamed '''Fashion/divider''')''? Or do we drop the divider and keep the sups ''(on which case Fashion/su would need approval/&#x200b;mainspacing)''? This is perhaps the last decision to make before finally incorporating the updated male tables into the article itself ''(and also updating the item and pricing grand totals)'' before I move on with updating the female tables. --[[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn]] (TIDs: 768426<b><sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup></b>, 123446<b><sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup></b>) ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 17:45, 27 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I'm not going to try to get into this today, but... Did you try to post the entire set of USUM data on the Fashion item talk page? Because, in particular for a dataset that large, a talk page isn't really a proper place to try to store it. If you want to do something like that, you can just leave it on a page in your userspace. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:23, 28 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::You may be right about that. I will move all but two tables to a subpage of mine while I still compute the item and price totals. As for the rejected table, can I remove all but two slots from that table (or perhaps remove the entire rejected table so that I can later request the deletion of the now-unneeded UFashion templates in my userspace)? --[[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn]] (TIDs: 768426<b><sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup></b>, 123446<b><sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup></b>) ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 04:06, 28 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::P.S. I moved <del>almost</del> everything to [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items]] as per your recommendation. I only left behind <del>two representative tables (male and female tops) with</del> notes regarding the relocation of tables to my user subpage. --[[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn]] (TIDs: 768426<b><sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup></b>, 123446<b><sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup></b>) ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 04:23, 28 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::P.S. P.S. [[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] removed the rejected table (the one with three extra (wasteful) columns) so we don’t have to worry about it anymore (and I requested the deletion of the four UFashion templates used by that table, which ForceFire already achieved, because I no longer see any need for them). --[[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn]] (TIDs: 768426<b><sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup></b>, 123446<b><sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup></b>) ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 05:58, 28 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== 2 random questions ==<br />
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If my edit was tagged "bad formatting", how can I fix it? <br>How can I see the size of an article or an early version of an article? <br>[[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 20:22, 23 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I don't remember anything specific that triggers that notice, but if you want to narrow down where it's occurring, just remove parts of the page and see if the notice still shows up. (Although, I also don't remember for sure if the notice is shown when you just preview... If not, that wouldn't really be viable.)<br />
:The history tab shows the size of revisions. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:05, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I tried using the preview. It only shows when I try to save the edit. As for size, what if I want the size of the entire article, not just the revision? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:58, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Also I tried testing on section 13 of the Platinum walkthrough, and I was able to get the entire article to save without the tag. So I still don't know what caused the tag in the first place. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:22, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I don't understand what you're getting confused with. Take {{p|Froakie}}. The page is currently 17,685 bytes. When it was created it was 3,083 bytes. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:38, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Apparently I'm blind and can only see red or green text and not black text. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 20:26, 26 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Backtracking for items ==<br />
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How many items must require backtracking to an area in order to give that area its own backtracking section in a walkthrough? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:01, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:If there's anything to backtrack for it's worth noting. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:38, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::So if Route 214 has a rare candy that requires surf then it gets its own section? Or do I just give each HM a table with all the backtrack-obtainable items? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 06:27, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I suppose since the walkthroughs tend to go into detail, it should be more of specific text than bare bones table. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:37, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Can I use the itlist templates and put the specific stuff in there? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 14:41, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I don't know. Just get it out there, probably try to follow any examples for other backtracking, and if it can be improved it will be sooner or later. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:50, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== SM101 Collective Nouns ==<br />
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Collective nouns alone are always singular: one duo, two duos; one pair, two pairs. [[User:Monchi132390|Monchi132390]] ([[User talk:Monchi132390|talk]]) 16:35, 26 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I'm mostly gonna keep this simple. On [[SM101]], things like "The duo '''is''' pleased" just sound wrong.<br />
:Beyond that, refer to https://www.dictionary.com/e/collective-nouns/ . The short version is, your "rule", by virtue of its inflexibility, is wrong. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:39, 27 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items|USUM Fashion items]] complete ==<br />
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I am done computing the new item and price totals for [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items|USUM fashion items]], which brings my working subpage to completion for your review. In summary, the following still needs to be done before these tables can be finally incorporated into [[Fashion item]]:<br />
* The [[Template:Fashion/header|Fashion/header]] and [[Template:Fashion/footer|Fashion/footer]] templates need to be updated to match my [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/headerUSUM|Fashion/headerUSUM]] and [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/footerUSUM|Fashion/footerUSUM]] templates, so I ask you whether I can directly update both templates (given that they are being transcluded only on one article, the server will only need to refresh that article so I don’t think there will be significant server stress) or leave the matter to you (as the original author of the templates).<br />
* I seek approval to mainspace my [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/s2|Fashion/s2]] row template, which is required to properly display items with dual game-dependent pricing (namely, the Water Shoes, Trekking Shoes, Nylon Backpack, Nylon Shoulder Bag, Baseball Cap, and Casual Cap, which had no price in {{gameabbrev7|SM}} because of their default availability but must now be purchased in {{gameabbrev7|USUM}}).<br />
* We still need to settle on whether to use the dividers (handled by my [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/divider|Fashion/middle]] template) or the {{sup/7|USUM}} superscripts (already incorporated into my [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/su|Fashion/su]] row template). If we keep the dividers and drop the sups, then only Fashion/middle will need to be mainspaced (<del>and possibly</del>just renamed to Fashion/divider which I believe is a more fitting name); if, on the other hand, we drop the dividers and keep the sups, then only Fashion/su will need approval (with a possible renaming).<br />
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Apart from all that, my work is done: the tables are complete and the item/price tallies are also complete. I look forward for your permissions and approvals before proceeding to update the article itself. --[[User:SilSinn9801|''<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 04:04, 30 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
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Hey, heads up. {{user|Mckenzie6361}} has quite the talk page going on here. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 02:33, 2 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== LGPE on [[list of moves]] ==<br />
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A lot of people out there would like to see a list of moves that have been included/excluded from LGPE, and move availability between generations (eg Precipice Blades in ORAS but not XY) have already been noted on the table. If the way I did it looks too weird, do you have a better idea of how to approach it? (eg separate table/article, use of categories) [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 21:19, 4 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:The notes for ORAS/etc are really not about "availability" in a sense that would extend to LGPE. The list is supposed to inform you of when a move was introduced. Before LGPE, yes, this basically meant you knew what games a move was in, but that's more a byproduct than a specific intention for the list.<br />
:If you would like to create a userpage for the moves in LGPE, we may consider mainspacing it, but I think the putting them all in a category may be sufficient. (I want to say it's simpler too, but I guess it's not, as far as editing each of those pages. So emphasis on "I think", I guess, but for the moment I'm feeling categories.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:11, 5 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items|USUM Fashion items]] complete 2 ==<br />
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Have you taken time to read [[#USUM Fashion items complete|my posting above]] regarding [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items|USUM Fashion items]]? At least four things still need to be done (all of them itemized in the [[#USUM Fashion items complete|talk section above the section above this one]], because I don’t want to repeat them here) before the final updated tables can be incorporated into the [[Fashion item|final article itself]]. You seem to have taken time to make minor edits and reversals on other articles, but no time to review my updated tables and, most importantly, answer me the latest questions I posted on your talk page. I know being an admin is no easy job, especially when you are not earning a paycheck for doing this ''(everyone here is practically doing unpaid volunteer work, even myself!)'' --[[User:SilSinn9801|''<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 06:06, 5 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Honestly, from what I took from the tables I originally saw, the ''only'' thing that "needs" updating is the "SM"/"S"/"M" headers. The only reason I haven't given you a proper answer is because you introduced all these other templates/questions and I was partially confused that you think so much else might need updating/a "decision". (Which is to say, I haven't processed each of your suggestions enough to give you specific answers for each.)<br />
:More importantly, though, I've also been asked to consider images in the template. Adding images to the template or the page is not exactly solved simply. There are so many images that any solution kind of has non-trivial downsides. I thought I might be able to get to it sooner (for more than just theorizing), but I partly had other templates with more priority that took up the time I did have earlier. I now have time, but it's not likely to be done in the next hour. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:11, 5 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
::'''''Weekly update:''''' Have you taken enough time to examine my work and come up with proper/&#x200b;specific answers to my five or so questions? --[[User:SilSinn9801|''<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 05:14, 12 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
::Just to let you know, I just renamed my divider template to [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/divider]] (from [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/middle&redirect=no User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/middle]). I noticed that you have [[User:Tiddlywinks/Fashion|your own prototypical draft page]] with images for fashion items. But it still does not include the USUM items. Where did you get those images? Did you create them yourself? Are there similar images for the USUM-exclusive items that I could add to [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items|my own draft area]] while we still debate the unfinished debate? &#x200b;‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 18:03, 13 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::I'm going to try to just keep this simple. I'm just looking at [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items]] (where I don't really see anything that can't fundamentally be done with the existing mainspace templates) and critiquing from there.<br />
:::General note 1: Don't use tt anywhere.<br />
:::General note 2: Don't use italics for any part of any location except for "Default"<br />
:::As for updating [[Fashion item]], then...<br />
:::Update part 1: Please add the USUM-exclusive items at the bottom of each table. (All you need for a "divider" is a simple new row, like below.)<br />
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| colspan="7" | '''Tops exclusive to {{gameabbrev7|USUM}}'''</pre><br />
:::Update part 2: Please add the USUM data for the select items that are default in SM but buyable in USUM (such as Water Shoes). All that is needed for these items is to give them a row for each game, one with the item name marked {{sup/7|SM}}, and the other marked {{sup/7|USUM}}.<br />
:::I have updated the one template that needed it, and those updates should suffice for the rest. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:31, 13 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::The footer template also needs updating, since I am distinguishing USUM-default items with a different dagger (‡ instead of the † used for SM-default ones) which needs to be incorporated into the template. I cannot simply reuse † for USUM items, otherwise one can get the false impression that it is also default in SM which is false. Also, if TT cannot be used, then we must find some other superscripted symbol to denote white items that can be dyed (not all white items can be dyed) in lieu of a tooltip. For the divider (which I had renamed as I said before), using raw wikicode instead of a template would make the table code internally inconsistent, which is why I requested approval of at least Fashion/divider. (Based on your other suggestions, I could do away with Fashion/s2 & Fashion/su, but first I must update my tables before I request their deletion.) As for images, do you have images for USUM-exclusive items? Because if you already settled on how to display images in the fashion tables, it would be a good idea to incorporate them right away. &#x200b;‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 19:57, 13 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::I updated again my proposed [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/footerUSUM|Fashion/footer]] template by adding a fourth parameter used to display an asterisk I chose to designate white colors that can be dyed (replacing the tooltips). So PLEASE give the footers in my just-updated [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items|fashion item tables]] a new look and reconsider your decision regarding the official [[Template:Fashion/footer|Fashion/footer]] template (I insist it must be updated). Also check the way I handled the "dual-priced" items (Water Shoes ''et al'') using the current [[Template:Fashion/s|Fashion/s]] template (I used a strategy similar to that done for Sporty Tanks and other items with names spanning more than one row; the only drawback is that the color word ''Custom'' shows up twice, but that is better than displaying item names twice). &#x200b;‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 21:51, 13 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::::It doesn't make any sense that someone would think a USUM-exclusive item would be a default in SM.<br />
:::::Dyed items are not a ''major'' concern on the fashion items page. The only place I'd say they ''really'' need noting is on Festival Plaza with the dye houses. As it stands, the mention they are given near the top on the fashion item page is plenty.<br />
:::::"Inconsistency" is not a great worry. Creating templates that do barely anything and have very narrow use is worse. Writing it out is absolutely fine.<br />
:::::There are two basic options here. '''You''' already did the work first. Either I can update everything at once and the History will contain no credit related to the work you've already done, or you can update the page for USUM. I don't ''know'' that you want credit...so I guess tell me now: shall I do it all, or shall you do a part?<br />
:::::As regards your template for the "dual-priced" items, I'll just tell you simply: I don't like it. If I decide I want to do something else, I can whip something up easily, but right now I'd really just prefer having the page updated using the (quite adequate) tools we already have at our disposal. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:09, 13 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::::<blockquote>“It doesn't make any sense that someone would think a USUM-exclusive item would be a default in SM.”</blockquote><br />
::::::Maybe I should’ve said the other way around: an SM-original item marked with † (with no further note that it is worn by default only in {{gameabbrev7|SM}}) would lead one to falsely believe that it is also worn by default in {{gameabbrev7|USUM}}, which led me to introduce the other dagger ‡ to make the distinction clear in the footer between items worn by default in SM and those worn by default in USUM. If you are unwilling to update the footer, then maybe I can update it myself with no questions asked, given that it is being transcluded only in three pages (unlike usertags which are being used in dozens or even hundreds of pages), so the server won’t severely stress out.<br />
::::::The current divider is no longer simply a single-cell row, but is now a five-cell row (that is, if you really gave it a close look); if you are unwilling to approve its template, then maybe I can ask another admin (like [[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> or even your senior superior, [[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]]) to do so.<br />
::::::And whether I want credit or not: '''OF COURSE I WANT'''; after all those scoldings and hard-learned lessons, why forfeit credit? I just want permission to update the footer and approval to templatespace the divider template before I finally update the official article myself. As for the images, I leave that matter to you because I honestly don’t like to handle images (especially when I have no autoconfirmed status in the Archives). &#x200b;‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 22:35, 13 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Let me try to be a little direct with you.<br />
:::::::What I want right now is the page updated with what we have and, frankly, how I want it so that I can then look over it and more directly decide if there ''is'' anything I want to change. Frankly, if you hadn't done significant work, I would simply be doing everything how I thought was needed and moving forward on my own. But instead I feel obligated (to an extent, at least) to try to respond to you and let you make the update. Which you aren't doing...and that's honestly pretty frustrating to me at the moment. (Patience is not necessarily my strong suit, and if you want to keep putting it off, I foresee myself running out of it before all too long.)<br />
:::::::With that off my chest for now...<br />
:::::::...Let me say this. The things you want can still be addressed after you update the page as I've requested. And it would help me a lot if I can look at the page directly and consider what I see versus what you want.<br />
:::::::I can respond to your questions. But for now I want to leave off with that plea. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:21, 13 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Because you never approved the divider template, I reverted to marking USUM-exclusive items with {{sup/7|USUM}} because I dislike seeing table sources haphazardly mixing beautiful template transclusions with pure, raw, ugly wikicode that would have only made the page source aesthetically more ugly (and less understandable to novice wiki editors) and more expensive in terms of byte storage (and I stress this as a former C++/Java student programmer, where both code efficiency and aesthetics are paramount). And because I am afraid that, if I let you put everything there yourself, you would later protect the page from further edits, I resorted to provisionally plugging there everything, along with a little “protest note” in the page-edit history (not in the article itself — that would be rude, plus any disputes should be kept away from article content so that innocent page visitors and source viewers remain oblivious of our misunderstandings) explaining the sore need to update the footer template. Whenever someone approves the divider template, then I would remove the {{sup/7|USUM}} from item names and plug the divider transclusion there. That is all and enjoy your rest; now I leave to finish my copy of {{gameabbrev7|UM}}. &#x200b;‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 23:52, 13 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Usability beats a little bit of storage any day. But I realized a better reason for altogether forgoing a divider: the tables are sortable, and a divider just doesn't work with sorting. (At this point, I'd still rather something that stands out a little better, but I'm not going to agonize over it.)<br />
:::::::::FWIW I am also updating the footer (but not the same as your template did it). I don't like so many different notations, but I feel that it is indeed more appropriate due to the lack of a divider at this point.<br />
:::::::::Otherwise, it doesn't sound to me like you wish to converse any more, so I will proceed on my own. If you have any issues, I would appreciate you bringing them up here before trying to force it on the page. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:42, 14 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::If you want USUM-exclusive items to stand out a little better (and {{sup/7|USUM}} isn’t enough), then I would suggest modifying [[Template:Fashion/s]] to allow one to tweak the row’s background color, as long as the text in it is still legible. That was an idea that came to my mind when I had made Fashion/su, but for some reason didn’t do it, and since I already requested the deletion of that Fashion/su template thinking that we had agreed on using a divider (which now is false for the sortability reason you pointed out), I am not going to meddle with it anymore. Whether you want to add that parameter for background color, it’s up to you (and same for Fashion item images, for which you did create five new templates), but now I move on to other topics — my work on Fashion items is done and I am already tired for today. The ball is now in your court. ''Thankee!'' Bye. &#x200b;‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 01:17, 14 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokémon Let's Go fashion items ==<br />
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After all this contentious discussion about {{gameabbrev7|USUM}} [[Fashion item]]s, something came to my mind: I don’t see anyone doing stuff related to {{gameabbrev7|PE}} fashion items (or clothing, or apparel, or whatever they are called). And because I don’t play any Let’s Go title (for the [[User:SilSinn9801#Not Considering to Play|reasons pointed out in my userpage]]), I will not worry about this matter. And because [[Pressure (ability)|your mind must be right now]] on incorporating images into the USUM fashion item tables, I will not bother you with this but rather let someone else (preferably someone with hands-on experience in playing PE) [[Head Smash (move)|break his/her head]] on this. &#x200b;‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 01:26, 14 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== As a final note... ==<br />
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...given that you are an admin, you should protect your userpage (like [[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] has done) from unwanted edits by unscrupulous users (or their sockpuppets, if any) or anyone who might hold a {{m|Grudge}} against you. It is standard practice for wiki admins. (Myself, I am an admin of a [https://river-monsters.wikia.com/wiki/User:SilSinn9801 Wikia-hosted wiki on the TV show River Monsters], and the very first advice I got after being promoted to admin, which was not long ago, was to protect my userpage.) &#x200b;‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 02:29, 14 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I'm going to try to adhere to protocol this time: I have the data from my previous editing of the Battle Mode (Colosseum) page (which does differ from the Battle Now page). I believe I am to ask an administrator such as yourself about if you can create that page that I would be able to edit and contribute. If I need to go about this differently, ask from a different spot than your user talk page, etc., please let me know. Thank you very much. [[User:ScottOshawott|ScottOshawott]] ([[User talk:ScottOshawott|talk]]) 00:21, 15 January 2019 (UTC)</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ScottOshawott&diff=2912152User talk:ScottOshawott2019-01-13T06:50:34Z<p>ScottOshawott: </p>
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As concerns [[Battle Mode (Colosseum)]] specifically, that would have been an easy OK. But the fact that you've created and edited the new title means that the pages have to be merged now. I will ask you not to change the Battle Mode page until that is done. (I'm tired and not greatly familiar with the merging process yet, so I will probably try it tomorrow.) If you wish to make content immediately for a proper Battle Mode page, you can create a page in your userspace for now.<br />
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:''<small>Comment below moved from [[Special:Diff/2912148|here]] [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:30, 13 January 2019 (UTC)</small>''<br />
:I see what you mean, and I apologize. While I know why I made the shifts and how I did what I did, you are right in calling me out to use of the proper channels. If there is anything I need to specifically do at the moment to correct these things, please let me know. Thank you. [[User:ScottOshawott|ScottOshawott]] ([[User talk:ScottOshawott|talk]]) 06:18, 13 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
::(First off, you should keep your responses on one page. Primarily, this is just ''much'' simpler to follow if there is any need later on.)<br />
::I'll still just merge things tomorrow. It just means that afterwards you'll have to recreate the Battle Mode page (instead of me just moving a userpage in if you had created one instead); and that the merged histories will have a spot of completely unrelated content. In short, avoidable inconveniences (but not major problems). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:30, 13 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::I see, I apologize. On a related note, I have been reading through different Bulbapedia policies and guidelines to essentially avoid such issues again, but I can't seem to find some of these policies. Where should I go to in order to learn these things? Thank you for your help.[[User:ScottOshawott|ScottOshawott]] ([[User talk:ScottOshawott|talk]]) 06:50, 13 January 2019 (UTC)</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tiddlywinks/Archive_4&diff=2912148User talk:Tiddlywinks/Archive 42019-01-13T06:18:33Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* On Battle Mode */ new section</p>
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== Radiant Sun/Full Moon ==<br />
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Why do we have the Radiant Sun and Full Moon forms on Solgaleo/Lunala's pages and the form differences page? When I added Reshiram's and Zekrom's active forms to their pages it was removed because they aren't counted in the Pokédex like Xerneas's neutral mode, but yet Radiant Sun and Full Moon forms are also not counted in the Pokédex, yet are on their pages. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 15:06, 24 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:In Solgaleo/Lunala's case, [http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pokemon/ the official site] called them forms. (Whether that should be OK may be arguable.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:05, 24 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Ah, that makes sense. Thanks. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 16:12, 24 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::Adding on, there are some Pokémon who have form differences recognized by the Pokédex but yet don't have their forms in the box at the top of the page (eg Furfrou). Should they be added? --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 14:28, 6 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Rotom is basically the high end of what we're willing to accomodate in the infobox. If there is a ''strongly'' compelling reason in the future, we might consider more, but something like Furfrou is simply impractical and relatively trivial&mdash;little benefit to worry about including it. It's fine with a gallery. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:39, 6 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Your help ==<br />
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..was unexpected in both "I didn't expect you to help" and "Why exactly did you do [[Special:Diff/2604502|that]]" kind of way. So, thanks for the former, but for the latter, was that more an "oh my Nesci now just get over that class=expandable thing its bad nobody wants that", or rather an "i still have javascript disabled so i must've cleaned up and nothing more ♪♫♪♫"? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 10:25, 26 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:It took me a bit to parse your actual question here...but yes, I don't enable Javascript if I don't need it, and all I saw was apparently pointless HTML tags in the diff. I might've said about as much except I try not to sound too much like an ass (because sometimes people just don't know), so instead of writing something like, "That's weird yo", I just simplified the reason very, very basically.<br />
:That said, the first table is '''super''' short, collapsing it seems a bit pointless. In fact, actually reading that one, IMO it'd be better to just make those nested bullet points instead of a whole table (like [[Experience#Gain formula]]); or just nest the technical note about Gen I-II specifically. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:56, 26 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Um, sorry for being cryptic, I thought you'd remember we already talked about that. Yo.<br />
::Thanks for the nested bullet points idea, sounds good, I'll try to see how that might work out. But for the ''other'' table, you accidently removed the expandable part (more or less), there wasn't a hidden anti-javascript agenda or something, right? (I know that HTML tags look weird&mdash;it's a workaround because for some reason, using * will always push everything down to the next line; so I'd prefer to restore that.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:04, 26 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::Hiding the ''entire'' table isn't generally the smart thing in any case. If you're going to collapse a table, you can generally just do it right on the table in question. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:23, 26 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Z-Moves ==<br />
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I made a template at [[User:Celadonkey/Template:Z-Moves]] to assist with accessibility for Z-Move pages, similar to the "Variations of _" on a lot of move pages. I was wondering if it's ok for me to mainspace it and put it on all the Z-Move pages. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 18:05, 26 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Lemme just ask, do you care if I (fairly) radically change the style and then mainspace it? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:30, 2 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::No, I don't mind. Go ahead! --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 01:38, 3 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::It looks awesome, thanks man. But I really think that having an MS for the species Z-Moves would be beneficial. Is there any way we can still implement it? --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 14:55, 3 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::They are pretty. But they make that part relatively big too. I don't think it's so bad since it's all summarized on the [[Z-Move]] page too already. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:59, 3 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==Aether House==<br />
If you don't like my edit, find some other way to deal with '''misleading''' information that could give people the wrong idea of when Porygon could be collect. I am stating this from an intelligent standpoint, not to show any rudeness. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 19:37, 26 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Never mind, did not see that. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 19:51, 26 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==RE:Moving pages==<br />
Can you move the page [[Gracidea (Sinnoh)]] to [[Gracidea Garden]]. After duscussion and waiting a long time, other users agreed and no one opposed the move. See [[Talk:Gracidea (Sinnoh)]] for further details. Or can you contact an Editorial Board member, as said on the [[Bulbapedia:Editorial Board]] page. [[User:Jeangabin666|Jeangabin666]] ([[User talk:Jeangabin666|talk]]) 19:18, 28 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Verity Lakefront ==<br />
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You changed [[Verity Lakefront]]'s text box back to a default text box after I changed it to a route text box. It is stated in the [[list of routes]] on Bulbapedia that the [[Sinnoh]] lakefronts are routes. It even says on the [[lakefront]] page of Bulbapedia that the lakefronts are routes. The three lakefronts are routes, thus deserving a route text box. --[[User:RedHailfire|RedHailfire]] ([[User talk:RedHailfire|talk]]) 22:07, 2 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:"List of routes" is not the criteria for deciding whether a location should have a "route" infobox. I'd be hard pressed to define exactly what those criteria are because there ''are'' a few places that are not numbered routes where we use a route infobox (and I'm OK with those), but if you want me to, I can try to figure out what the specifics are/should be. For now, though, please trust me that the lakefronts are regular locations, not routes. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:24, 2 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::The [[lakefront]] page also states that these areas are [[route]]s. Also, if these lakefronts don't get route infoboxes, then why does [[Spring Path]] get a route infobox? The lakefronts are much more like routes, for most of the lakefronts actually have [[tall grass]]. Spring Path is such an obscure location. --[[User:RedHailfire|RedHailfire]] ([[User talk:RedHailfire|talk]]) 22:33, 2 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::To attempt some loose/theoretical explanations, "Spring '''Path'''" closely suggests something like a route, so it was perhaps easy to just put Route infobox there. A "lakefront" sounds more like a simple location, however.<br />
:::This is not strictly justification, but, again, explanation for the current state of things (i.e., a basic answer to your "why"). The presence or absence of tall grass also doesn't really make or break a route, because plenty of locations (like the lakes themselves) have grass, and some routes don't (e.g., [[Kalos Route 1]]).<br />
:::Sort of like I said above, it may be that we should solidify some criteria for what locations deserve Route infobox and which ones deserve Infobox location.<br />
:::Let me ask (and try to answer this as earnestly as you can): why exactly did you change the template? Was it strictly because there was a '''route''' infobox template, and those pages weren't using it even though that's what you thought they were? Or was it more because you wanted to see the connecting locations like routes show them (and thankfully for you, the lakefronts are identified as "routes" in some places)? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:50, 2 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Another path in [[Sinnoh]], called [[Seabreak Path]], is a path and is considered a [[route]], similar to [[Spring Path]], yet Seakbreak Path doesn't get a route infobox. Seabreak Path is also on the [[list of routes]] here on Bulbapedia. I may fix the infobox later, since Seabreak Path is considered a route and a "path." I adjusted the [[lakefront]] infoboxes purely because the lakefronts are considered routes, and route infoboxes belong to routes. It makes sense to give a route an infobox literally called a "route infobox." I thought it was just common knowledge. --[[User:RedHailfire|RedHailfire]] ([[User talk:RedHailfire|talk]]) 00:55, 3 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::I also wasn't suggesting that '''all''' routes have [[tall grass]], but most of them do. --[[User:RedHailfire|RedHailfire]] ([[User talk:RedHailfire|talk]]) 00:58, 3 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::The contrast of Spring Path and Seabreak Path perhaps gives you your best answer: there probably wasn't any rigorous thought about it all. This is a public wiki. It can be easy for certain "habits" to start small and slowly spread, very possibly via different people, and without perfect rhyme/reason. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:08, 3 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::Do you approve of my change of the [[Seabreak Path]] infobox? --[[User:RedHailfire|RedHailfire]] ([[User talk:RedHailfire|talk]]) 01:22, 3 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I'm basically leaving it all alone at the moment. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:23, 3 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Another template I thought might be useful ==<br />
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I'm not sure if there's a need for it, but I made a template [[User:Celadonkey/Template:Spritebox/MS/1]] for menusprites to be used in the sprites section of a Pokemon. I was thinking there would be another for Gen IV, Gen V, Gen VI, and Gen VII Pokemon. This one would be used for Gen 1-3 Pokemon. Is there any that needs to be changed and would there be a need for it in the mainspace? --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 21:44, 4 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I just realized... Would there be any way to do Gen I and Gen II menu sprites? I know that there are just general sprites like "Ball" and "Quadruped". --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 22:00, 4 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Just so you both know, the old menu sprites and their Pokémon are listed [[User:SnorlaxMonster/Original era menu sprites|here]]. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 22:26, 4 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::This is awesome! I'll try to add this in. {{unsigned|Celadonkey}}<br />
::::All updated! Thanks. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 23:53, 4 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::Maybe.<br />
:::::One problem about the template is that it basically requires changing when there's a new generation, when it's generally been our goal recently to avoid that in templates with such wide use as all Pokemon.<br />
:::::You can keep it around, but it's not something that can be signed off on easily given its wide effect. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:58, 5 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::True, true. Is there any way I can rework this so that it would not have that problem? --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 18:23, 5 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::If you want to try, you're welcome to. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:34, 5 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Alright, but how would I go about doing that? --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 18:59, 5 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::I don't know how much you know about templates, but if you need to, I'd suggest checking out your welcome template links or introductions on Wikipedia or elsewhere. Then, you can try looking at what we do with other templates that are designed to avoid this, like dex, availability, and sprites on Pokemon pages.<br />
:::::::::Beyond that, I don't know how to tell you exactly what to do without just as well doing it myself (which I won't). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:21, 5 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::I had an idea... What if there were templates for each box I already have (for example, a Gen I menu sprite template) and then those templates would be put together on a "master template" of sorts to be used on the Pokémon's page to make the full chart? This way, instead of all of the templates being modified every time a new generation comes, the sub templates would be adjusted appropriately, or if a new gen has completely new menu sprites, a new sub template would be created and added to the master template. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 15:44, 6 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}} Actually, it might be a better idea to build the sub-templates on the Pokémon page itself instead of using a master template, because with a master template, we'd need different master templates depending on the game the Pokémon was introduced in - a different template would be needed for Bulbasaur and Dedenne, if that makes any sense. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 15:56, 6 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Does this count? ==<br />
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I found a way to make Rockruff's Pokédex Entry from the anime Japanese. The translation in also there. does this count? {{unsigned|Hamfart}}<br />
:I don't think we add dex entries until they're dubbed. On that understanding, I don't think it should be added.<br />
:However, I don't really know the anime. You may wish to direct your question to a staff member who's more familiar instead. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:08, 7 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Archives ==<br />
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Am I allowed to move my archive back to my own page? I archived my talk page for no reason and want it back to my regular talk page. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 22:24, 9 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:If your new page hadn't really been touched, that might be an interesting question, but since it has, it's kind of too late to ask. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:28, 9 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Oh, rats. So I can't copy the code from the archive and place it at the top of my talk page? --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 22:42, 9 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::That entirely defeats the purpose of maintaining the history. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:44, 9 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Ah, alright. Thanks anyways. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 22:52, 9 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Weather Trio ==<br />
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The page [[Weather trio]] should be moved to Super-ancient Pokémon, an official term. It's been discussed on the talk page since early 2015, but we haven't gotten any response from the staff, but yet... Ataro has made a page [[Super-ancient Pokémon (Adventures)]]. Can it be moved? --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 13:51, 14 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:It sounds to me like you want to talk to Ataro rather than me. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:31, 15 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::I dunno, I know that the comics are Ataro's thing and this isn't really a comics thing. I may bring it up to SnorlaxMonster, or someone. Thanks for the help. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 02:00, 15 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Gen VII Images ==<br />
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Hey, I was wondering about how to upload images to the [[Bulbagarden Archives|Archives]]. I have a few images for moves from [[Generation VII]], and I am unable to upload them to the Archives. It says I'm not yet a confirmed user. I saw that you are active on the Archives, so I thought that you might know how to upload these images. --[[User:RedHailfire|RedHailfire]] ([[User talk:RedHailfire|talk]]) 03:41, 23 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:The Archives has an {{bp|autoconfirmed}} status similar to Bulbapedia. The long and short of it is, if you look around (which may not be an entirely trivial task, but also isn't impossible), you should be able to find some things you can edit/improve on the Archives to earn that status and be able to make uploads.<br />
:That said, do be aware that, in order to upload images from 3DS games, you [[a:Archives:Messages from the Council#November 9|have to have permission]] first. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:45, 23 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Which page to put name locations on ==<br />
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Hey there! You recently reverted an edit I did to the Gen II base stats structure page, citing that information of default names for Pokémon doesn't fit there (presumably as it's not part of the 32-byte structure). So as not to get in an edit war, I figure we'll hash it out before doing anything. I'd argue it ''does'' fit on the base stats structure page, as it - as all the other properties on the page - is something common to and used for all Pokémon of the species. I'd go as far as to say the page shouldn't be about one single data structure (which the page title doesn't really imply, after all), but rather the how base stats of the Pokémon are stored in general.<br />
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Putting it on the character encoding page, as you suggested, makes no sense at all: the name data has nothing to do with the encoding of the characters at all, and isn't used in any related contexts. Seeing as the name data is used when creating a Pokémon and on summary screens, just like the rest of the base statistics... I'd say that's the best place. Not putting it anywhere isn't an option either, as that'd simply be withholding potentially useful information, which we of course don't want to do. What do you think? [[User:LpSamuelm|LpSamuelm]] ([[User talk:LpSamuelm|talk]]) 23:27, 30 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Like you say: the list of names is very plainly a '''very''' different thing from the list of base stats. You're grasping at reasons to shoehorn that list into the page, when the only truly logical approach is to limit it to a single, readily identifiable structure. Based on what you're saying, we may as well have Gen III's base stats structure and Pokedex data structures on the same page; they're at least based on the same indices, which is ''basically'' equivalent to your argument for the list of names.<br />
:The best thing you could really argue for would perhaps be a ''different'' page altogether, one that could reasonably mention all the data relating to species. That seems like a bit of a weird idea to me, though, so I'm very unsure how such a page would be made, personally.<br />
:Anyway, I don't see the base stats structure page as being an appropriate place for it at all. If you have any better suggestions, I'm all ears. I'm basically okay with just saying it fits nowhere and removing it altogether if you think that's best, too. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:13, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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::Sorry, I don't at all follow your extrapolation here. Not sure where the "like you say" part comes from, either - I'm not "grasping", it's quite logical. Here's an a bit more structured summary of how and why they strongly relate:<br />
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::* The "base stats" for a Pokémon is data that's used in any combination of a few ways. Not all of them have to be true for a point of data to be considered "base stats", as is apparent from their inclusion in the main structure. The ways are:<br />
::** '''Informing choices when constructing a Pokémon''' (wild held item, gender ratio)<br />
::** '''Basic, unchanging values for how the Pokémon acts''' (types, base stats, egg cycles, dimensions of sprite, growth rate, egg groups, TM/HM flags, catch rate, Exp. yield)<br />
::** '''Basic, unchanging values used on the Pokémon's summary screen''' (types, base stats, dimensions of sprite)<br />
::** And yes, even '''used in the species's Pokédex entry''': the sprite dimensions byte.<br />
::* In comparison, the default name of a Pokémon is used in the following ways:<br />
::** '''Informing choices when constructing a Pokémon''' - all wild Pokémon get their names from the list.<br />
::** '''Basic, unchanging value for how the Pokémon acts''' - if the Pokémon's name differs from the species, it is considered nicknamed, which has an effect when the Pokémon was received in a trade.<br />
::** '''Basic, unchanging value displayed on the Pokémon's summary screen''' - the species name is simply displayed under the nickname.<br />
::** In addition, it is just like the sprite dimension byte '''used in the species's Pokédex entry'''.<br />
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::That's 4/4 of the purposes filled.<br />
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::It's not really possible to, as you did, extrapolate my argument to combining the Pokédex data (which I was looking at just earlier today for Gen II; should make a nice new page) page with the base stats structure page, as the Pokédex data has no actual impact on the Pokémon. If you edit the Pokédex data, all Pokémon of that species look and act the same, with no difference even to the summary screen. Of course, as I mentioned, "removing it altogether" is ''not an option'' - skipping out on providing real information, even if it were to prevent meta-level "shoehorning" (which I really do contest), goes against the very purpose of a wiki. [[User:LpSamuelm|LpSamuelm]] ([[User talk:LpSamuelm|talk]]) 01:43, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::You're talking about base stats as a very abstract concept.<br />
:::The page [[Pokémon base stats data structure in Generation II]] is explicitly about a specific structure, about a contiguous set of data (a list) with entries corresponding to different Pokemon.<br />
:::The list of names is a WHOLLY different list. It's not logical to conflate both of those things on a page called "Pokémon base stats data structure". It's TWO structures.<br />
:::[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:52, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::: They're two different contiguous data masses in memory, sure, but they're used in the same contexts. I say "Pokémon base stats data structure" can just as well mean "the structure of Pokémon base stats" (which may well include "the data is structured as part of these two parts of memory") as it can, as you assume, "this specific contiguous structure type in memory". Very logical, all in all.<br />
:::: Really - the page in question is the absolute best fit for information on this, hands-down. I'd say it's a really good fit, but even if you don't agree with ''that'', you'd be hard pressed to find a page where it would fit better. [[User:LpSamuelm|LpSamuelm]] ([[User talk:LpSamuelm|talk]]) 02:03, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::The page isn't about context. It's about a specific data structure. The one on the page. Not the list of names.<br />
:::::...I'll go ahead and ask (even though the answer would seem obvious if you're delving this stuff at all): Do you have any experience with computer programming? Because as someone who does, I can tell you, the page title just is NOT interpretable the way you want it to be. (And those pages are by their very nature incredibly technical, meaning that is the most reasonable way to interpret it.) It's one structure. Not anything kinda with the same feel. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:10, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::Yes, I am a programmer. And I really, really, don't appreciate the condescending tone you're taking. That someone doesn't agree with you does ''not'' mean they don't understand. Frankly, the fact that you choose to ask despite saying "the answer would seem obvious" tells me the entire point of the question is to be condescending, which... well, I'm not going to dignify that with further argument.<br />
::::::Now that that's out of the way: I'm definitely qualified to say that yes, it is interpretable that way. Obviously it is, since I'm interpreting that way. It seems to be subjective, though, since you don't agree - you're taking it as a "data structure" (as what you'd call a struct in C, for example), but seeing as the page is called "Pokémon base stats data structure" and not "'''The''' Pokémon base stats data structure", it may just as well be taken as "the structure of Pokémon base stats data".<br />
::::::You seem to be dodging a certain question a bit: what page makes for a better fit than that one? [[User:LpSamuelm|LpSamuelm]] ([[User talk:LpSamuelm|talk]]) 02:23, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I absolutely don't claim to always be the most politic, but I certainly don't mean to be condescending. Mostly I'm just frustrated by your views when it seems so obvious to me. I'm sorry if that comes off wrong.<br />
:::::::I'm not dodging any question: I ''put'' it where it better belongs. (As you said, you disagree. I guess I didn't see any point in going into that part more; I wanted to focus on what I ''expected'' would be a more fruitful direction...) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:33, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::So, first of all - how come you get to decide where it "better belongs"? Probably because you're a junior admin, huh.<br />
::::::::In any case, I definitely oppose it being on the character encoding page. The character encoding is used for the names, sure, but it's also used for ''everything else'' in the game. If you put info on the species names there, why not put info on all the locations and structure of dialogue? For the Pokédex descriptions? For the list of items, the list of moves, the list of abilities, the list of trainer types? Because the contents of those have nothing to do with the character encoding except being encoded with it, just like the list of species names. [[User:LpSamuelm|LpSamuelm]] ([[User talk:LpSamuelm|talk]]) 07:38, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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{{indent}}Like I said right off the bat...if you want to offer a third solution for where it belongs, I'm all ears. When people have differing opinions, that sort of thing is ''always'' a great option if at all possible. You've spent a lot of bytes trying to "prove" your opinion above when I already suggested to you a third option. By all means, try creating some user page to try to address it. I certainly see the point of your complaint; ''I'm'' not perfectly happy with it either, but it's better than the only other alternative currently. I would be very happy to have a third option. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:13, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::And what I'm trying to do is convince you that no, making a separate page is not reasonable at this time (which you've said yourself). However, it is much more reasonable to have it on the page where I put it than on the character encoding page. Do I simply not have a say in the whole thing? You moved it elsewhere, making my initial placement an impossibility? Is that really how it is? [[User:LpSamuelm|LpSamuelm]] ([[User talk:LpSamuelm|talk]]) 13:34, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::(Sorry to intrude on a talk page, but maybe it's helpful.) I think in an ideal world, we should have main "Data structures in Gen X" pages, with lots of sections that mostly link to the articles we already have, and with another section on the Pokémon names.<br />
:::(Also, if you're interested in a second opinion: I believe if we link to it from the Pokémon structure page (much like we currently do), it should be... fine. Regardless of who is staff and who is not, I believe there are good reasons to not include it on either page, though.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:26, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::It's rather curious, LpSamuelm: you think I'm being (more or less) tyrannical, when you're basically asking the same for yourself. Do *I* have no say against what you want? We're two people. We want exactly different things. There's no "winner" in that equation. There's no reason you're more right than I am except that you're sure you are. The idea that this makes me unreasonable or what-have-you is nonsensical.<br />
::::At any rate, I think we've pretty much reached the point where I ''am'' prepared to turn a little "tyrannical" and explicitly throw in the weight of my authority as a staff member. I've tried persuading you and I would have hoped you could see what was obvious to me; but I'm at a loss for what to do when you cannot see it, short of seeking staff opinion. "Luckily", I don't have to look far. =P This is truly what I think is best for the wiki:<br />
::::* The data structure pages should as a rule only describe one structure. That is how those pages should be; not how you want to interpret them.<br />
::::If you want to make a page that touches on more than one structure, get creative. Don't just say it's impossible. I'm '''certain''' you can make a page even if it looks a bit ridiculous. But you're not going to get anywhere so long as you keep thinking it's impossible and declining to even try.<br />
::::It may be important to note that my word is not ABSOLUTE law. To be sure, I have some authority which should be respected. However, there are also {{bp|staff|many people above me}} who you may appeal to if you ever think I (or someone else) am terribly wrong in anything.<br />
::::FWIW and perhaps obviously, I'd prefer if you just moved forward and either tried to work on a solution like I've suggested you can, or if you would just let it go and be productive in other ways. But I won't pretend there aren't other options. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:15, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokétch app icons ==<br />
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I get what you mean by your reasoning, but the thing is many [[Pokétch]] apps are already represented in the item lists of the locations they are obtained in by icons other than the Pokétch sprite, and have been so for years now. Some of them are icons of the Pokémon featured in their respective apps, so they make sense, but what I want to ask you now is that what do we do with this thing now? Do we replace all the app icons in item lists with the Pokétch icon, leave them how they are now and just try not to come up with any new ones, or something else? What do you think would be the best solution? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:49, 1 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I'm not entirely sure what to think of those placeholders. When I first saw what you added to [[Sunyshore City]] it just looked wrong. After you've pointed out everything else, I look at, say, [[Pal Park]], and it doesn't seem so bad.<br />
:But. There's also a simple enough solution. Just use the app images from the [[Pokétch]] page for the "sprites". Part of me was thinking for a while that that'd be best, if only! And then I realized we totally have those and we can. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:02, 1 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Template edit request ==<br />
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In [[SM004]], the [[Rotom Pokédex]] gives a ton of new entries. Besides the obvious Pokémon entries, I chose to add the descriptions it gave about catching Pokémon and Pokémon Centers as well. The first one already had an entry way back in [[EP001]], so it's already been taken care of. However, the entry for Pokémon Centers still has a red link. Could you edit the Pokédex template to remove the red link? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:03, 13 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:It appears to have been taken care of. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:29, 13 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Yup. {{user|Abcboy}} apparently took care of it before you could. BTW, as I checked out the Pokédex template out of sheer curiosity, I noticed a special entry tag (or whatever it should be called) reading "Togepi's power". I dug into Togepi's article history, and found out that that thing was used for Togepi's second AG entry at some point, but was already taken out in 2010, which was ages ago, but apparently the special note was never removed from the template. Just wondering that shouldn't something unnecessary like that be removed, even if it doesn't technically show up anywhere? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:05, 14 April 2017 (UTC)<br>PS. Is the "Purpose" part in the template the same thing as "Dexter (purpose)", in other words, repetition and thus unnecessary as well?<br />
:::The template is used on a large number of pages, editing it for something that's currently going to make zero difference isn't altogether wise, so for now it's just fine. (Try to always keep your signature last as well.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:25, 14 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Understood. Maybe next time it's really necessary to edit it, that can be done too. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:44, 14 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::Well, that time seems to be now. The newest dub episode has two double entries, and the template needs editing once again. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:32, 13 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::The next time you come upon a case that causes an explicit problem in a template like that, can I ask you to consider ''holding off'' on saving it with that problem? Try asking ''first'', so that you're not imposing a red link or something like that. Especially, there should REALLY be an option in {{template|Animedexbody}} that ''doesn't'' require updating such a heavily used template every time a new random odd case pops up. If we don't fix that soon, please try to keep that in mind and ask us BEFORE you use the template in an "unexpected" way again so that we can implement such a fix, which you can then freely use to use the template without problems.<br />
::::::Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:01, 13 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::So basically your point is, "Tell first, wait, and ''then'' edit". Gotcha. In that case, I'm now telling you ahead that I'm planning to split {{p|Yanma}}'s OS entry into the main entry and a section called "Yanma's attacks". Thanks. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:16, 14 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Thank you. I've updated the template. Where you'd put the 2nd parameter, you can now just put <code><nowiki>None|po={{p|Yanma}}'s attack</nowiki></code> (or whatever for anything else that pops up in the future). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:42, 14 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Thank you too. I've tested it out on Yanma's page, and it seems simple enough. So I was wondering, should ALL exceptions in Pokédex entries (i.e. all entries not about a Pokémon species) be replaced with this feature so that they don't need to be listed on the template itself, or should they just be left the way they are now? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:51, 17 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::You don't need to go out of your way, but if you're doing anything else at the same time and you want to redo it, feel free. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:13, 18 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Deletion ==<br />
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Would anyone know how to delete an account?[[User:Empoleon042806|Empoleon042806]] ([[User talk:Empoleon042806|talk]]) 15:08, 15 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I'm not sure if we can delete your account if that's what you want, but we could probably block it indefinitely if that aligns with whatever reason you want it deleted for. If you're perhaps dissatisfied with the name you chose, it can be changed once. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:19, 15 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Genderless vs. gender unknown ==<br />
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I can't find hide nor hair of the phrase "gender unknown" on any of our pages in regard to what you mentioned. If "gender unknown" is the new canonical term for it, shouldn't we change everything to use the correct term? If not, shouldn't [[cosmic duo]] use the same usage we use on every other page? Either way, we should be consistent with one term or the other, not a haphazard mishmash of whichever people feel like. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:19, 20 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I kind of meant you should talk about it "publicly" on the article's talk page, not come to me individually. I think that'd be more useful.<br />
:(FYI, one thing I didn't have space to write is that I'm not rightly sure what makes genderless canon as you claimed. If you can specify the sources you were thinking of, I'd love to know it. Again, though, I don't mean here.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:40, 20 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
::(The source I was relying on was... the fact that we use the term and don't use a "fan name" template on top of its page. That's all... I'll bring it up on the [[genderless]] talk page, since that disambig seems to be the grandparent of anywhere that might be relevant.) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 02:04, 20 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== FP Increasing FC Costs ==<br />
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Really, you have to delete a important detail. It was part of a incomplete section. One of the reasons was: Needed Costs for all facility levels for introduction by visitors. Please re-add them.<br />
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[[User:Bluebird3639|Bluebird3639]] ([[User talk:Bluebird3639|talk]]) 18:26, 20 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:That information was actually there already. Nobody remembered about the incomplete template to update it, that's all. Nothing's been lost. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:39, 20 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==Ether==<br />
Hey! Sorry, I was meant to put it in the edit summary, but Ether is the Japanese name and she's called Cherie in English. At least to my understanding, disambiguations don't count if it's the Japanese name and therefore there's no clash in terms of the article names. If not, I'm happy to be corrected.--[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:green">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''(토크)'''</sub>]] 07:19, 22 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:If someone's only heard the Japanese name, they could still search for that here, and then if there's no note they'd just be left confused. There may still be ways for them to find it, but that'd be relatively difficult especially if they're not super familiar with us/wikis. I imagine there's other examples of this being done but I wouldn't know where. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:26, 22 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Move infobox and "flags" ==<br />
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Hey there! I believe you're still the flag officer around here? As you know, they're not exactly all perfectly accurate (as in, they're ''annoyingly'' deserted: half of our infoboxes have <code>mirrormove</code> incorrect, for example, but then there are none of the GenV+ "flags" I pasted on the talk of [[User:Tiddlywinks/Template:MoveInfobox|what I remember you were doing]]). I'm currently doing some related work there (which involves compiling lists of incorrect "flags"), and the more I do, the more I think this needs to be reformed rather radically. Before I go ahead, I want to ask: Do you have an opinion/plan on how to handle "flags" in infoboxes? Assuming there isn't something in the works already, could we (not necessarily just the two of us, but Bulbapedia as a whole) discuss (and eventually settle on) how to handle them? I believe this really needs some conceptual work before anything else (and it is about time!), that's why I'm coming to you. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 11:02, 22 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I'm not really grasping what you're getting at. I guess that means no, I don't have any plan or anything. So in short: lay out your ideas. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:17, 22 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Continued [[Template talk:MoveInfobox#Flag reform|here]]. Note that I added some more "flags". [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 14:47, 22 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Pulse/Wave ==<br />
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'''はどう''' is translated as ''Wave'', same as the japanese version of ''Aura'', Lucario's power.--[[User:Martianmister|Martianmister]] ([[User talk:Martianmister|talk]]) 07:37, 2 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Pulse is equivalent. Especially since they were translated in English as "pulse", it's fine to use that in our translations as well, rather than just take the lazy/mechanical route of obeying whatever Japanese-English dictionaries say. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:17, 2 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== About the underlevelled Pokemon page ==<br />
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I saw that the pictures have been removed and I completely understand why they have been removed. But although an odd question but is SpriteIt still active on Bulbapedia? Because his most recent contributions and activity from what I'm aware of dates back to 2016 at latest. I'm asking as I'm not sure if I will be able to contact SpriteIt regarding his page for permission to have the template modified. If you know any way to contact him it would be great if you could tell me how so I can ask about the change in template. Although preferably it would make the page look better with pictures, if not having them is what he wishes than I'm completely fine either way.[[User:Nikuriku|Nikuriku]] ([[User talk:Nikuriku|talk]]) 14:36, 7 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:My removal of the column is entirely about what I think, not SpriteIt. That table is much too busy for a huge picture of the Pokemon's artwork. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:47, 7 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Cheers for the advice from my talk page.<br />
::Fair enough about the table being too busy for a picture of the Pokemon's artwork. <br />
::Also would it be better to remove the "Picture" column since there are multiple methods of obtaining an underlevelled species of a Pokemon along with the fact that it never was really used to begin with? <br />
::Also if the "Picture" column is removed could I bring back the "Artwork" column? This is since the "Picture" column was never really used to begin with while the added "Artwork" column was used so in my opinion it would make sense to replace the picture column with an artwork column.[[User:Nikuriku|Nikuriku]] ([[User talk:Nikuriku|talk]]) 14:57, 7 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't really know how Picture would be used. I think if it gets to where it ''might'' be mainspacable, removing it can be considered, but until then, I'd rather give SpriteIt as much time as possible to respond to the page being edited and give any input (even if it just ends up being "Do whatever").<br />
:::Like you said, the Picture column wasn't really used so even removing it doesn't really change a thing about the rest of the table. The artwork is still relatively huge and everything else relatively busy. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:06, 7 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Hey I know this is old and most likely this will not be approved but this is why I'm asking here first:<br />
::::Would I be able to make my own Underleveled Pokemon page so I would be able to add my own information and change the template? This is so I can modify the page without distorting SpriteIt's original page format. Also from that page I'm only taking the information I have added there(it's still going to be on the original page however). <br />
:::: If I can't make my own page then is there a way I could contact SpriteIt regarding the page? This is so I can discuss about modifying the original page and get his input before doing anything major since I'm not sure if he goes on Bulbapedia still.[[User:Nikuriku|Nikuriku]] ([[User talk:Nikuriku|talk]]) 11:49, 11 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::The userspace exists for a reason, and we welcome users making use of it to try to develop new pages. If you want to move it in a new direction, you're more than welcome to make a page in your userspace to play with it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:29, 11 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::Cheers! I assume I can get the stuff I added from the other page and make a different template?[[User:Nikuriku|Nikuriku]] ([[User talk:Nikuriku|talk]]) 13:31, 11 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I'm a bit confused. But I don't think there's a lot of ways you can go wrong. Just dive in, get to it. If there's any issues, we can all figure it out. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:24, 11 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Accuracy vs. evasion ==<br />
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I had believed you knew this all along, way before I realized it, but now I'm better safe than sorry: As accuracy and evasion stat stages are combined to ''one'' multiplier (Gen III onward), nothing can modify one but not the other. Or, in other words, "boosts its evasion by 25%" is another way to say "decreases accuracy of attacks targeted at it by 4/5". It's shorter and probably more intuitive/natural, but it doesn't allow us to be consistent, nor to link to one of the three consistently (and I understood that you preferred <code><nowiki>{{stat|accuracy}}</nowiki></code>). (It's also a little less precise technically/mathematically, I guess, but I think that really shouldn't matter.) More or less, I believe we (and UPC) are using "accuracy" (or <code><nowiki>{{stat|accuracy}}</nowiki></code>) as the generic term that encompasses both "accuracy"s and evasion. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:20, 8 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I don't like leaving these things implied and ripe for misunderstanding, so I take it you're responding to the edits to {{a|Snow Cloak}}.<br />
:Second: you're talking about stat stages, but Snow Cloak doesn't affect stages, it's just a multiplier. ...Perhaps you understand this, but that's not clear to me, and it did (plainly) confuse me.<br />
:You do have a point that accuracy and evasion reduce to the same, ill-defined "stat" after stat stages are applied. (If we go by [http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/content/pokemon-diamond-version-pearl-version-and-platinum-version-accuracy-check.html UPC for DPPt], all multipliers come only after stat stages are resolved.) I.e., at a technical level, you can't really say whether a multiplier affects accuracy or evasion.<br />
:So I think how we should handle it is that, in any cases where a multiplier nominally "affects" the user of a move, that affects their accuracy (like {{a|Hustle}} or {{a|Compound Eyes}}), while a multiplier that nominally affects a Pokemon that is the target of a move (like {{a|Snow Cloak}} or {{m|Gravity}}) affects evasion. This may be what the descriptions for those Abilities try to follow, but we may have gotten too concerned with the wrong things in some places. (If there are any categories for these sorts of multipliers, the question of what's right for ''them'' becomes interesting. Likewise, the multipliers that are split between accuracy and evasion at [[Statistic#Stat modifiers]] become equally interesting.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:13, 8 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
::I can't tell what your first sentence means, but my post was motivated by [[Special:Diff/2637785|you asking for proof it affects something other than accuracy]] (which could have been either an educational, rhethorical statement; or you being unaware that that's not really possible).<br />
::I believe I understand the difference between stat stages and the rest. What I wanted to make you aware of is: Accuracy and evasion have ''a single, combined table lookup'' (unlike say Atk and Def).<br />
::For things that do affect stat stages ({{m|Double Team}} etc.), we obviously need to refer to that stat whose stages are affected. For everything else, I guess we have some freedom, and I believe we're currently consistently saying "increases/decreases <code><nowiki>{{stat|accuracy}}</nowiki></code> of moves [against it] by factor/percentage" (see {{a|Tangled Feet}}'s edit history).<br />
::Both ways of saying it have their drawbacks (as I said above). I guess it's a matter of philosphy/ideology, and of where we want to link to. I believe either way is okay. It's just that whenever UPC etc. say "multiplies accuracy of attacks against it by 4/5", we're free to reword it to "boosts evasion by 25%" if we desire, because it's really the exact same thing.<br />
::(As a side note: for Gravity and {{weather|fog}}, we can say both "affects accuracy/users" or "affects evasion/targets" even ideologically. Official wording from Gravity's effect apparently is neutral: "Moves are more likely to hit for five turns.") [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 19:06, 9 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::(I can't tell how the stages are really related to anything in particular here... So I'm just going to plow ahead until it becomes clear that I did miss something.)<br />
:::I think "where the multiplier comes from" is an eminently reasonable distinction. If it comes from the target's "condition" (like Tangled Feet), that's their "evasion" that's affected; if it comes from the attacker, it's "accuracy".<br />
:::Gravity and fog are more field-wide effects, but I think we still can and ''should'' consider them '''logically'''. As far as Gravity, it should be pretty clear logically that gravity hampers a target's evasion. Fog should likewise logically affect an attacker's ability to ''aim'' (their accuracy). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:07, 9 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::That's a reasonable philospohy/ideology, in my opinion. (And for anything not called Gravity or fog, in-game descriptions may be unambiguous anyway.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 18:57, 10 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Teleport ==<br />
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Hey, could you maybe elaborate on why [[Special:Diff/2641360|my edit]] apparently didn't adress my concern, or shifted the problem? (I guess you realized: my concern is that it sounds like "wild mon" takes precedence over Mean Look etc.) I've looked at my screen for minutes, but I really can't seem to find it. I'd like to "fix" it, which really... doesn't make sense when I'd be trying to just repeat my earlier edit!? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:34, 16 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I might have actually missed or mistaken the "wild" part at the beginning. It was still densely worded, though. It's kind of annoying, because if this were the effect when the move was intro'd, you'd say "Teleport causes the user to flee. It can fail depending on the user's level and because of trapping moves." without having to worry about, "Wait, you can't say 'always'." Being a change like this makes it hard to do smoothly (because I would have said the original way was basically easiest/fine). But I've tried to communicate the same thing more smoothly all around now. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:59, 16 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks. I really do try to find concise wording, but sometimes I apparently just lack the sensitivity, the ability to realize it is overly worded, so I appreciate any simplification you're able to provide.<br />
::In the meantime, I'll be thinking about starting a petition urging for Game Freak to not do bugs, because it's really annoying for us to represent them. Seems kinda selfish. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:47, 16 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Quotes ==<br />
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I saw Looker having a separate quote page ([[Looker/Quotes]]) and wonders on the full requirements of having to create a new page? I was editing Lillie's quotes and the whole thing took to 97.1KB. As for Looker, because since it's from many games, so I assume the full requirements are that the quotes must be very long and the character must have appeared in several games in order for a new page to be created? Also would "Upon being defeated" and "After battle" makes more sense? Or if "After battle" could mean even if you lost? Thirdly, if I were to create my own "User:Ruixiang95/..." on the ghosts appearing in the Pokémon games, which I doubt will be mainspaced at all, will that be a breach of the website's policy? Thanks! — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:orange">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:purple">95</span>]]''' 11:08, 25 May 2017 (UTC), Edited: 11:20, 25 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:There aren't specific requirements for splitting quotes, but you're right, it probably shouldn't be split if they're only in one game or generation.<br />
:I almost like "After battle", but unfortunately it probably is a problem that it sounds like it applies even if you lost the battle.<br />
:We're more than happy for users to use the userspace to try out pages that they think would improve the wiki. You can include the {{template|mainspace}} template at the top, and when you think you're all done, you can add the parameter "status=complete". [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:58, 25 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Vandal ==<br />
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[[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Poke_bulba_321&action=edit&redlink=1]] Whom you reverted will not stop. Should we block? [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 04:35, 1 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== ability3 field in Template:Pokémon/7 ==<br />
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The field to list a third possible ability for [[Template:Pokémon/7]] (and Pokémon/6) was way overdue, so I prototyped a version that accepts 3 abilities. The only difference between this version and the current one is the line that handles the ability fields.<br />
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* Updated template: [[User:TehPerson/Pokémon/7]]<br />
* Test cases: [[User:TehPerson/Tests]]<br />
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Please let me know if you have any feedback. Thanks!<br />
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[[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 07:30, 17 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
:We're not eager to add another conditional in a template that already has plenty, especially when you want to use it on so many pages that use the template so much. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:55, 20 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
::So is there some technical-related issue with this, or this being something too low priority to consider? [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 17:14, 22 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::...It's exactly as I said. Let me put it less ambivalently. We will not be updating the template for that. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:08, 23 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Intervention, please? ==<br />
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Do you mind intervening on [[Cress's Panpour]], please? [[User talk:Pikablu|Pikablu]] refuses to listen to me when I point out that the trivia they added break policy, and they're persistently edit warring to reinstate the trivia. Thanks. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 01:13, 18 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Template questions ==<br />
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Hey, I've got a few questions regarding templates:<br />
* Are we expected to avoid images in (high-use?) templates? Is there any (server-related) issues?<br />
* Do you know whether the software evaluates all branches of ifs, and whatever will not display due to "display:none"? Or, in other words, is there a reason to nest ifs of subsets within each other (e.g., <code>if a<100 then ((if a<50 then x) y)</code> rather than <code>if a<50 then x; if a<100 then y</code>)?<br />
* You seemed to be eager to wrap what currently is "display:none" entirely in ifs. I believe wiki syntax does not provide that functionality to wrap entire tables in ifs (expression error for me), but it may be possible with HTML. Is there a particular reason to try that (seeing how Wikipedia [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conditional_tables#Plan_C suggests] using "display:none")? (Possibly the above point!?)<br />
Of course, it's related to [[User:Nescientist/Template:MoveInfobox|this]] (in particular, the damage category icons and the contest stats). Thanks in advance! [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 10:46, 24 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Abstract issues don't always work well for me... What makes you apprehensive about images?<br />
:Similar to above... I'm going to go with, I don't know, what's your issue?<br />
:Firstly, Wikipedia doesn't exactly "suggest" display:none, it has it as an option (which perhaps notably comes ''after'' wrapping content in #if). I suggest it because display:none very explicitly ''hides'' content. Take a look at [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Cacophony_(Ability)]]: perhaps ''every'' species page links there because that's a default value in the Pokemon infobox, but it's hidden&mdash;it's still ''part of the page'', it's just not ''visible''. This is just, in general, a less than ideal problem (preferably only "valid" links would show up), but more to the point, there's cases where it can very explicitly cover something else you want to find. Suppose there's a parameter that, if set, shows a line with a link to "page", and if it's not set, that's just hidden. Based on the output, you might imagine you could check What links here for "page" to see where the parameter is set, but in truth, it wouldn't be any use to you; and it should be. I couldn't say for what, but I'm fairly sure I ran into just that problem for something in the move infobox. (FWIW as well, instead of very obliquely referring to "You seemed to be eager", being very specific about exactly where you get something like that from can only help. At least, that's true for me. Even if I did&mdash;eventually&mdash;realize what you were talking about here.)<br />
:[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:41, 24 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
::It's because very few templates seem to make use of images/icons. For example, [[User:MisterE13/Villain templates|these]] look so much better than the current templates IMO, and also nobody seems to have added the category icons to the move infoboxes although they existed way before the template was designed, and that made me wonder whether that's due to images (in templates) stressing servers or anything. I [[User talk:Nescientist/Template:MoveInfobox|included them]], but if use of images were a reason to reject template proposals, that'd be good to know (in general/"abstract").<br />
::Thanks, I didn't think of "What links here", I just thought of categories, and none were added in that "display:none" parts. But thanks for pointing it out&mdash;{{m|Floral Healing}}, for example, currently links to [[Appeal]], and it really shouldn't. So I shall try to avoid "display:none", even if that involves some HTML workaround I guess. (Correct?)<br />
::Example is the contest data within the move infobox; if a move needs no "Contest Spectacular", it needs neither "Super Contests" nor "Contests" and so on. If the software was smart and only evaluated what it really needs to (much like most "normal" programming languages/parsers), in most cases, it would need to evaluate less parser functions if those were nested, it wouldn't need to query some color templates, etc. So, I shall try to have them nested I guess. (At least I can't see any real drawback, now that I need to wrap entire tables instead of simply using "display:none" anyway.)<br />
::I parsed your intention from [[User talk:Tiddlywinks/Template:MoveInfobox#To do|here]]. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:11, 24 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't know if there's ''no'' case where images would be a problem, but I don't know how. In this particular case, if those icons ''would'' be any sort of problem, they'd be very simple to remove, so that certainly wouldn't be grounds to reject everything.<br />
:::You don't need to use HTML&mdash;and shouldn't, really. We're a wiki. We can expect people to know/learn wikicode. HTML can only complicate things. Just stick with wikicode.<br />
:::The only generic argument I could make about nesting would be readability (counting brackets is annoying). There's probably documentation that could tell you. I rarely have the stomach to really digest things as dense as that tends to be, though.<br />
:::[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:28, 24 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::As I said, I believe the wiki syntax doesn't allow for wrapping entire tables in ifs (specifically, I'm having problems with the opening and closing <nowiki>{| and |}</nowiki>), so I would need to use HTML (<nowiki><table></nowiki>) as a workaround. I'll try to see if I'm mistaken and/or can make it work somehow. I know using HTML it's bad.<br />
::::Exactly, yes. But I think it's minor, especially when I'll try to intend properly. (And I think expansion depth can be a problem, but only if we get like a dozen more contests.)<br />
::::Thanks. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:43, 24 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::Just wanted to clarify that the wiki syntax ''can'' be used to hide entire tables. I was able to make it work without using HTML. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:39, 27 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Z-Move Effect ==<br />
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Ok then, let's discuss: Why do you think the E should be lowercase? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:03, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:...I was the last one to say anything on [[Z-Move]]. And what I said seems basically clear enough to me. Either you have a response that will attempt to discount something I've said (and/or you'd like clarification on something), or we can only disagree. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:15, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::I don't think you discounted anything I've said, and yet you reverted. Why did you revert? (I don't think any of your statements is factually wrong, but I don't see how that makes you revert my edit.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:20, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::There's no solid reason to think that phrase should be in title case. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:40, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::But wouldn't that be the most logical assumption for a key term? And also, wouldn't title case require one or two additional assumptions, namely that the beginning of the "line" (what you see in the infoscreen; I know it's not literally a sentence) ''is'' in title case, and that the capitalization ''changes'' between title case and sentence case within that same line?<br />
::::Or in other words: Is there solid reason to think the phrase should ''not'' be in title case? (Or even ''rather'' be not in title case?) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:54, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::I'm really not sure what you think a "key term" is/why Z-Power Effect is such. "Z-Power effect" seems simply descriptive, not particularly "special" or anything (for any solid reason). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:22, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::Oh, you didn't challenge that until now!? That is because I noticed that in German, it is one word "Z-Kraft-Bonus", which can hardly be purely descriptive, and is different from [http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/de-de/z-moves/ the website's] actual description (which is something with "Effekte"). Also, as it's in front of a colon, it's quite explicitly summarizing/shortening what it "describes"; it's designed to be to the point. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:43, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::If you want me to have challenged it being a 'key term', I'm don't know how I should have done that when, again, I still don't know what you think that is and when this is furthermore the first time you've mentioned it.<br />
:::::::I absolutely don't know enough about German to say much about that term, but I do know that all German nouns are capitalized. By that, I'd be very hesitant to infer too much from the German. As for it being in front of a colon, you're making a big assumption by inferring anything from the capitalization there; being explicitly set off, there's no telling ''how purposeful'' that capitalization is. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:28, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}} Haha, of course I don't want you to challenge something I would eventually say. But what I mean when I say "it's a term" is that, well, it is an official term, official terminology, something that should be bolded and translated on the page; you didn't un-bold or doubt it was more than a pure descriptive sequence of words. (And with that German, I didn't mean to say anything about capitalization. It was an argument why it is a term, and not merely a pure descriptor.)<br />
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I know that it's technically an assumption to say "Z-Move Effect" is correctly capitalized this way. But in my opinion, it's actually way more of an assumption to say it should be "Z-Move effect" (because I guess terms are typically capitalized, because "Z-Move effect" requires the two additional assumptions I mentioned before, and because "Z-Move effect" just doesn't seem to be used anywhere official). If you really insist and disagree that it's a term, I guess we can agree that we disagree, and you would obviously have the right to make use of your Junior Adminship to overrule me if you wish&mdash;but then you should also de-bold and remove it from "In other languages". (But I honestly think I made rather strong arguments.)<br />
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But saying both "it's a term" and having it lowercase seems almost contradictory to me; I really hope that we will be able to adjust the article accordingly. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 20:57, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I don't have any particular opinion either way on this, but let me just point out that there are plenty of "terms" that we translate and use bold but that are officially lowercase. There's a whole list of them at [[User:SnorlaxMonster/Pokémon Syntax#Capitalization]]. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:05, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Yes, and/but I think we have them that way exactly ''because'' they are not capitalized in sentence case (despite being terms). But either this one is, or (we're assuming) it's in title case ''and'' capitalized (only) because of that. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 21:20, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::The plain fact is, there is no context where you can guarantee that "your" capitalization is intentional. Uppercase is plainly a ''special'' thing; it is not something you assume by default. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:22, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Ah really? Okay, I thought one would assume that by default (for a term, or a Pokémon term). In that case, even though I would still prefer to have it capitalized based on my arguments, I guess it's not as crystal clear as I initially thought. I don't care too much then. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 21:40, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Talk ==<br />
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So like four people get involved and I'm the only one in trouble? Really fair treatment here. So glad we have admins to make this place so much more inviting and remove all the information.--[[User:Pikablu|Pikablu]] ([[User talk:Pikablu|talk]]) 14:58, 6 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Frankly, you were the one most obviously egregious when I saw it. So I did your message first. (After the page itself.) Beyond that, I have various concerns that are not all limited to this site. Try to avoid jumping to conclusions. Or at very least, if your "unfair treatment" is really your concern, be earnest about that (for example, pointing out politely and reasonably the people you think also warrant some sort of messsge); if all you're gonna do is drawl sarcasm at me, you're not putting yourself in any good light. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:04, 6 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==Thoughts==<br />
I know you might not care too much about this, but I wanted to ask about the Mystery Dungeon item pages since we've discussed it (a little) {{DL|User talk:Tiddlywinks/Archive 3|before}}. I've made a page for [[User:Wowy/Throwing item|throwing items]] where I've split the page into each game. The advantage is that the template doesn't become too complex and ugly, and you can write information specific to each game (e.g. IQ skills). Another advantage is that the item "stick" changed its name to "wooden spike" (both English and japanese) (I am assuming they have the same effect with just a different name). So sorting it out by generation would mean that the 'same' item isn't duplicated twice. The disadvantage is that you can't compare the changes that have been made over the different games, and also when someone searches "Geo pebble", I think the search would only land on the page and not on the exact item. I tried to make a page for throwing item because it's relatively sparse, but I don't want spend time making any changes to big pages such as the [[Wonder Orb]] page before approval. What are your thoughts? --[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:green">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''(토크)'''</sub>]] 08:11, 7 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry I haven't been able to figure out what to say sooner...<br />
:Can you give any examples of where you think an item gets complex besides regarding buy/sell prices? (I don't really know what you mean when you mention IQ skills above either, and I don't think I see anything about that on your user page.) For the most part, it seems to me like, since the template is meant to handle multiple games, it seems best to use it like that (aside from how messy the prices get). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:01, 10 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::A slow response is better than no response! And I also don't know what the best way is, and it's fine if we end up leaving it as it is. But if you take Wonder Orb as an example of a list getting complex, some orbs are available in all the games (e.g. Slumber Orb), some are available only in a RBTDS (e.g. Silence Orb), and some only in GTI (e.g. Notice Orb, well I haven't found it yet in SMD and there are no reports of it online) etc. Like the throwing item, some items also changed names (e.g. Foe-Evolution Orb --> Enemy Evolve Orb). So for anyone playing just one of the games, the list gets confusing as to which one is relevant to your game or not, until you open each table. I guess you could argue that the page is just a list of all the orbs in all the games, but maybe the page should strive to do more than that (maybe?). <br />
::When I mentioned the IQ skills, what I meant was when you open the "In Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team" tab, then you can see a mention of IQ skills since that info is relevant to that game, while when you open the "In Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity" tab, you can see a mention of Team Skills since that info is relevant to that game. So you can put information relevant to that game under each tab rather than having it all at the top of the page. <br />
::Whatever happens, thanks for you thoughts! I'll keep them in mind. --[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:green">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''(토크)'''</sub>]] 23:54, 10 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::I've been advised that a compromise could be grouping games. Like sections for "Only in [RB]", "In [RB and TDS]", "In all games", etc as required. That way you'd still have only one template for each item.<br />
:::I don't know what to say about ones like Foe-Evolution Orb --> Enemy Evolve Orb except that it's arguably working alright as it is now on Wonder Orb, with just separate templates for each name. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:52, 11 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Ok, that sounds good in theory, but it ends up with too many arbitrary sections: "Only in [RB]", "[In RB and TDS]", "[In RB, TDS and GTI]", "[Only in TDS]", "[Only in GTI]", "[Only in SMD]", "[In all games]", and would separate similar items that should be grouped together (e.g. Stick, Silver Spike and Iron Thorn are obviously counterparts with different strength, but Silver Spike would come under "All games", while Stick and Iron Thorn would be classed as "In RB, TDS and GTI"). If that's the case, I'm more than happy to keep the MD item pages as it is now rather than make that change (it also doesn't solve the buy/sell price issue).<br />
::::On another note, should Foe-Evolution Orb and Enemy Evolve Orb be listed together on the same template since the Japanese names are the same, while Stick & Wooden Spike, Iron Thorn & Iron Spike be listed separately since they have different Japanese names and so are distinct items?<br />
::::And thank you, I appreciate your responses! :) --[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:green">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''(토크)'''</sub>]] 01:28, 11 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::Are those arc/straight categories a strong in-game distinction, beyond just ''how they behave'' when they're used? If not (and possibly even if they are), then you ''could'' forego those sections. There's only three arcing items, I think it would be fine then to just talk about the different behaviors and highlight the three arcing items at the top of the page or something.<br />
:::::Strictly speaking... Yeah, the Foe/Enemy Evolution Orb should be in a single template, basically like {{DL|Status condition healing item|Paralyze Heal}}. On the other hand...that unfortunately brings about a similar sort of problem as you mentioned before, since the closed template doesn't display the note about the previous name. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:04, 11 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::Okay, how does the [[User:Wowy/Throwing item|page]] look now? --[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:green">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''(토크)'''</sub>]] 04:09, 11 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Did you misorder the Rare Fossil and Gold Thorn in the TDS section? Seems good to me otherwise. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:16, 11 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Magikarp ==<br />
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I had believed it was rude of you to just undo the entire edit when I thought you seemed to be adamant to keep that section clean, and wanted me to possibly move it elsewhere. However, if your problem was not ''where'' it was added, but ''that'' it was added at all, I believe it's just as rude. By now, it should be clear that I (currently) disagree. Either way, please feel free to outline your rationale.<br />
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(As an aside, I believe it's quite striking you expect me to possibly start the discussion by undoing an edit, again. Or is this you exerting Junior Admin powers?) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:51, 16 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I'm going to be honest... The argument you're attempting to make here simply makes no sense to me. You're thinking something that's just totally different than what I'm thinking.<br />
:The situation is very simple. I saw you added something to Magikarp a earlier that didn't belong. You reverted my reversion and called my reversion rude. That makes no sense, and your simple reversion completely ignored the problem I pointed out. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:08, 16 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Honesty is always good. I'm in.<br />
::In my opinion, a simple undoing of an edit (that is within the MoS) is almost always some kind of rude if that undoing is based on personal opinion only. Even moreso when the edit is not one word, but an edit the editor obviously spent time and thought to it. (I thought about it for several days, and it took more than half an hour to finally implement my edit.)<br />
::...And it's more rude (and very striking) when the editor/edit attempted to solve an issue. Your reversion didn't address the problem at all. It just reinstalled it.<br />
::What problem did you want to address in your edit comment? I understood that you wanted to make me (or everyone) aware of the fact that this should be about the species the article is about, not describe a game. I am aware of that, it's just that the game ''is'' about that species. The game is literally ''called'' the species&mdash;I can't do anything about that. What I did was focus on Magikarp appearing there (and I pointed that out in my reversion).<br />
::(Just in case: The patterns are the most important part of it, in my opinion. I ''insist'' they need to be somewhere on the page.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 18:37, 16 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::I have to say... (With, for what it's worth, no offense intended.) It doesn't matter how much time you spend on an edit, if someone undoes that for what ''they'' think is a good reason, your investment/disappointment in ''no way'' justifies you automatically labeling it rude. Just because you put effort into something doesn't give it some magical protection.<br />
:::You say I didn't resolve the problem you were concerned about. Fun fact: I don't really know Magikarp Jump. My intent was that someone who does should address that concern in a better way than your edit did. (This all comes around to: you're invested in this thing and feeling hurt about it. I won't say you can't be, but don't lay it all on other people. They don't have to have the same investment as you.)<br />
:::You state the problem exactly, but declined to try to address it at all. There's a whole article for details of the game. Pumpkinking's edit addresses Magikarp's appearance about as deeply as (as near as I can tell) it needs to be.<br />
:::And there's already an explicit place for sprites. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:59, 16 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::I am in absolutely no way feeling hurt or something about ''my'' edit being removed. Simply removing that much value created focused at solving a problem (one we even agree on), is bad&mdash;regardless of who created that value. (And I didn't say that value gave it protection, or used it as an argument to "automatically" call it rude.) In short: Removing the entire thing entirely is certainly worse than what I did.<br />
::::I know Magikarp Jump a bit. And/but I don't quite understand what makes you think my edit was bad. If you (have read my explanation above and) specified, I could try to address your concern. (Again, I focused on Magikarp ''in the game'', not the game itself.)<br />
::::Are you suggesting to append it to the core games' sprites? I initially wanted to have the patterns near the prose explaining them, but I'm okay with your suggestion as well. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 19:20, 16 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::Call it what you want then, there is still no justification for calling a good faith edit "rude". Anything not to your liking is not "rude".<br />
:::::I'm not sure why you're offering to address my concern when I've already said that Pumpkinking's edit is good. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:32, 16 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::Okay then, I misread that part. I'm fine with that as well, if we add the patterns (in prose and images). Would you please edit them in (or answer where I should put them)? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 19:50, 16 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I already said, if they belong anywhere, there's already a sprites section. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:19, 16 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I hope you already know this, but after reading this whole section again, I wish to very explicitly state/reconfirm that no offense was intended on my part either. I was not trying to attack you personally, and I hope you didn't draw that conclusion at any point. (I obviously suck at reading your mind sometimes.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 20:40, 16 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Marowak ==<br />
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Based on your response to PlayerKing95's page what is your stance on the moves used in SM034?--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 13:43, 20 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I don't really follow the anime. I'll pass the question along. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:52, 20 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==Shuckle==<br />
Thanks for dealing with the vandalism from Joel, hate things I like that.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 21:18, 20 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Meant to be I hate things like that.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 21:18, 20 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== RE: Encounter Edits ==<br />
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As I've been playing through the series gen by gen recently, I've noticed that the more recent gens are full of misinformation on encounters. Diamond/Pearl had a few apparent hiccups, but I'm running into them all over the place in Black/White. Serebii's database is even worse, listing pokemon in completely incorrect routes and areas. It's clear that the encounter rates thus far have all gone on people's experiences and nothing else. I'm just adding mine to the pool--and mind you, I'm changing nothing unless it's been hours upon hours and I'm absolutely, 100% sure.<br />
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If you want to dig up ROM data, by all means, feel free. It has not been done with this encounter tables. I don't have the time or interest in doing it, either--again, I'm just adding my contribution to improve the tables. Even if it won't make them 100% perfect, it will be a step closer to perfect accuracy. If you want to make the tables LESS accurate by reverting my changes, I can't stop you; I went out of my way to improve the data, but if that generous act is not appreciated, I'm fine not bothering. [[User:Xelrog T. Apocalypse|- Xelrog T. Apocalypse]] ([[User talk:Xelrog T. Apocalypse|talk]]) 18:14, 9 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Is corocoro also a forbidden source? ==<br />
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[http://i.imgur.com/RDIolxQ.jpg]<br />
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Because if it was, my edit was valid. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 15:43, 10 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Can you read Japanese? If not, you're relying on Serebii's interpretation of what that scan says. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:48, 10 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::No, I can't. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:50, 10 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== M09 ==<br />
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Hello I would like to ask for a staff member's opinion on this. Frozen Fennec reverted me when I changed "most likely" to "may be" and said that "most likely" is fine, I think having "most" and "likely" makes those points too certain and I don't see what harm there would be in changing "most likely" to "may be". Please could you offer some input thanks[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 14:39, 14 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:We try to avoid personal opinions, which is what "most likely" is. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:18, 15 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you, I saw that you changed it.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 19:55, 15 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==New editor==<br />
[[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pokerman118933]] This new editor is spamming some strange link. Two of his eduts are hidden. Is this vandalism? And by the way, on the talkpage for [[FireRed and LeafGreen]] I posted a question but I am unsure if it belongs there. {{unsigned|RubyLeafGreenCrystal}}<br />
:The user was dealt with. <br />
:It seems okay.<br />
:Also, please use the "+" button at the top of the page, next to "edit this page", to create a new section on a talk page, don't just put it at the end of someone else's section. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 09:51, 16 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Re:Anime moves ==<br />
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I'm sorry if I seemed arrogant or whatever by adding that {{m|Thunder Wave}} use. However, I would like to assure you that I've learned my lesson: I don't add too ambiguous moves without them being confirmed anymore. However, this case wasn't ambiguous at all in my mind: the animation used for the move was identical to the one used in the {{series|XY}}, you can check it out yourself if you want. A couple other users have also already left agreeing opinions to T-Wave's talk page. Do you give me the permission to restore my edit? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:30, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Type: Null at level 5. ==<br />
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(Without double-checking anything but our breeding page) Eggs hatch at level 1<br />
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Doesn't that prove my point? Other than Cosmog (who's obtained at level 5), everything that evolves can be bred and hatched, which makes Type: Null the only unevolved Pokemon unobtainable at level 5. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:34, 24 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:So you mean by leveling up... That's not what obtainable should mean. And even if you find the right word, having to level up Pokemon makes it unnotable. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:19, 24 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::There is clearly a misunderstanding here. What exactly do you think I'm trying to say? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 18:16, 24 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::That's exactly what I said from the start... If Sandygast can be "obtained at level 5", then either it can be encountered in the wild and caught at level 5, or it can hatch at level 5. Neither is true. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:30, 24 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::I don't think the point is notable either, but perhaps what Unowninator intended was more like "the player can/cannot legitimately possess it at level 5". [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:33, 24 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::: ^ Yep, that's exactly what I meant. Thanks for explaining Pumpkinking. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 23:03, 24 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::In that case, my response here was understanding it just fine. You can only have Sandygast at level 5 after leveling it up, which makes it unnotable. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:26, 25 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::What the hell does that have to do with anything? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 04:02, 25 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::"You cannot legitimately possess it at level 5" is wildly aribtrary. If you can possess everything else at level 5 by leveling up but you can't possess Null lower than level 40, then why don't we just level up further and make it level 39, or ''everything'' from 1 to 39?<br />
::::::::And why do we stop before Null's obtainable level? If we just go farther, then everything can be possessed at level 40-100. Yay?<br />
::::::::Your line (and method) is arbitrary, formed to exclude Type: Null for no actually-good reason, it probably just "seems" right. It's not notable. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:17, 25 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::My reason was little cup, but since it doesn't really exist, why not bring up the level 40 thing? If that isn't notable, then why are these facts?<br />
Of all the Pokémon that evolve by leveling up, Hydreigon evolves from its pre-evolution later than any other Pokémon, at level 64.<br />
Out of all Pokémon that evolve by a set level, Larvesta evolves later than any other unevolved Pokémon, at level 59.<br />
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::::::::::I don't know what "the level 40 thing" is supposed to be. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:21, 26 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}} Basically of all unevolved Pokemon, it is obtained at the highest level. Everything else can be lower than 39, but Type: Null can only be at level 40 minimum because it can't breed. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 15:34, 26 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Then just phrase it like that instead of going through a bunch of hoops to overcomplicate it. Something like ''Of all unevolved Pokémon, Type: Null has the highest minimum level at which it can be legitimately possessed: level 40'' seems, in my mind, to be more notable than dancing around the topic by bringing up Cosmog and level 5. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:41, 26 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Hang on, Unowninator, just because I said I ''personally'' think it's more notable than what you had before, doesn't mean Tiddlywinks will decide it's notable ''enough'' to keep. It's probably best to wait to add it until they approve/disapprove it. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:32, 26 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::: [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Type:_Null_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&curid=215674&diff=2682162&oldid=2681962 *extreme facepalm*] Why does nobody understand me? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 06:18, 27 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Video ==<br />
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I do not want to say it but if you pause at 0:25 of the video, it looks sha__. [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 04:28, 1 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I still don't understand. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:34, 1 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
::You will see a white menu in the bottom right corner. You know why now? [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 04:39, 1 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::I see it. Please don't assume I can read your mind and keep asking me to guess. If you can't explain yourself, I won't understand. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:42, 1 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
All right. I'll just ask if a white menu is possible on a gameboy. [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 04:46, 1 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
And if not, where can one be found on a gameboy game. [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 04:48, 1 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I think they're trying to censor the word "shady" for some reason, and are pointing out that the video is taken of an emulated game (you can see a Windows right-click menu briefly at the point they mentioned). [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:49, 1 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Direct linking ==<br />
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Re: your discussion with Nescientist and the staff ruling that came out of it: Can you please have a word with FinnishPokeFan95? As you can see in their contributions history, they are edit warring on Berry pages to remove the redirect even though (as far as I understand it?) the outcome of that conversation was that those links should be redirects. Thanks. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:26, 25 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
:My understanding is that there were two users seriously discussing, not that there was me and a staff member and a staff ruling. (However, there's reasons and arguments, and there's a policy to avoid edit warring, and a will to avoid useless edits.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 18:15, 25 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
::When Tiddlywinks said they had been "advised" on the matter, I assumed it was from higher-up staff members, but yeah, perhaps I misinterpreted that. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:30, 25 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Insignificant minor edits ==<br />
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(I have asked on SnorlaxMonster's talk page but gotten no replies, so...)<br />
I wonder if these minor edits are necessary: [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Dragon_Scale&diff=prev&oldid=2700623 link 1], [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Dragon_Memory&diff=prev&oldid=2700622 link 2], [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Dragon_Fang&diff=prev&oldid=2700621 link 3]. They don't make any difference when you view them on the page. Thanks. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#4B0082;">95</span>]]''' 22:36, 14 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry, I missed this before.<br />
:"Necessary"? No. Personally, they are something I'd probably do myself if I was thinking about it while already doing something on the page.<br />
:Your implication is that it should be stopped. If it was absolutely all someone was focused on, I personally ''would'' ask them to find more substantial edits to make (and have in some cases in the past). While at this particular moment it seems like GrammarFreak01 has done relatively a lot of that sort of edit in the past day, that doesn't seem to consistently be the case so strongly previously. It's still not ideal, but... For what it's worth, I can tell you that, as of yet, it doesn't seem to be weighing too heavily on anyone's mind on staff. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:56, 15 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
::I see. I know it's supposed to do that while you are editing something else on the page, and not just specifically editing this part only. I remembered this sort of insignificant edits will clogged up the Recent Changes or something else. Since there's no worries about that, I guess I don't mind.<br />
::Might as well ask this now also. Are the Rotom Adventures quotes needed to be added to the Rotom Pokédex page? ([[User:Ruixiang95/Rotom Pokédex/Quotes]]) — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#4B0082;">95</span>]]''' 04:15, 15 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::Just to be sure I'm not missing something, you're talking about the Rotom from the Pokemon Adventures manga?<br />
:::As far as I know, we don't do any quotes for anything but games. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:29, 15 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Nope, Video games. The message they show on the bottom screen as you travel in Alola. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#4B0082;">95</span>]]''' 04:39, 15 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::Oh, just everything else beyond the dex stuff. I specifically refrained from that (or even adding an incomplete template) previously myself because I don't think it's necessary. Rotom's dialogue is a little bit like a walkthrough, I don't think it's worth much or adds much. And it's something for practically ''everywhere'', it'd be pretty huge. And then figuring out for ''each'' of those exactly when it occurs would be a huge pain too. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:46, 15 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Archive sandbox ==<br />
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Will you please archive the [[Bulbapedia:Sandbox|sandbox]]? The maximum number of sections should be 60. [[User:SaturnMario|<font color="#034112">SaturnMario</font>]], [[User talk:SaturnMario|<font color="#078325">his talk</font>]] and [[Special:Contributions/SaturnMario|<font color="#83C192">his contributions</font>]] 22:37, 14 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:What do you mean the max should be 60? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:47, 14 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
::The ones including sub-sections. [[User:SaturnMario|<font color="#034112">SaturnMario</font>]], [[User talk:SaturnMario|<font color="#078325">his talk</font>]] and [[Special:Contributions/SaturnMario|<font color="#83C192">his contributions</font>]] 23:37, 14 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::That's not what I asked. I asked '''why''' you say it should be the max. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:40, 14 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::I actually agree. There's so much text & such on the sandbox that it causes my browser to freeze, so I can't even use it. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 21:03, 21 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== That Rhydon thing. ==<br />
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How the hell is it excluding anything? The Psychic type thing excludes all other types, so why is that fine but not this? (I suppose I could just say highest attack of everything compatible with Eviolite, but I think the other way's better...) [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 21:02, 21 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:How is it excluding anything, you ask? The phrase "non-fully evolved" quite explicitly excludes fully evolved Pokemon. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:13, 21 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
::And Psychic types doesn't exclude all other types? I still think it's good trivia. Can we at least reword it? (Unfortunately, my best idea is using Eviolite compatibility) [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 21:25, 21 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::Where do we draw the line? We've easily had "all but Legendaries and Mythicals", "all except Mega Evolutions", (all but Legendaries, Mythicals, and Megas; only Megas; only Legendaries and Mythicals...) "all starters", your "Eviolite users"...and that's just off the top of my head, there's probably several other "interesting" sets that have been on pages and plenty more beyond that if we just decided that anyone who wanted to could make up a set.<br />
:::Let's also consider each of those sets I mentioned above: would it be okay to start talking about only the Fairy-types, Normal-types, etc among each of those groups?<br />
:::What I'm getting at is that it's a lot of stuff, and all that just balloons. More than anything, it's hard enough keeping track of two broad categories (overall and by type)... (I'm pretty sure that when people started updating the best/worst trivia to account for Gen VII, they didn't pay any attention to the Pokemon that used to be "highest" or "lowest" and had now lost that status, thereby leaving old/incorrect trivia on a number of pages.) We don't need to worry about updating stats for a dozen different categories.<br />
:::Even if you want to say, "Well, I think these four or five or so categories are okay and we won't allow ''anything'' else", it can be ''very'' hard to '''remember''' whether what someone added is actually in one of those categories, without referring to somewhere where it would have been stated out. Beyond that, it's not like there's a simple way to "agree" on which X categories we should have, either.<br />
:::The short version is: we don't need a bunch of trouble for allowing all sorts of categories. We should keep it simple, and the most basic categories are just overall and by type. Easy to remember, easy to deal with... It's plenty. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:45, 21 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Topps ==<br />
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Hi not trying to start an edit war but nowhere on the page does it describe all of the different printings. [[User:Samcarano|Samcarano]] ([[User talk:Samcarano|talk]]) 19:29, 28 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:What's not described? The logo colors are described. The finish is described.<br />
:I was also just about ready to ask on your talk page: To me, it seems like the "2nd edition" set with a smooth finish that you described could easily fit the same case as what you called the "rogue" S1 set. Is there particular reason you think otherwise? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:32, 28 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Everything is stated now but the topps logos and the 5th foil print were not stated initially. yes it could be called rogue as it was similarly not released in the U.S. but was produced here(at least as far as I can tell). So that terminology applies here as well. There are also packs of 5 and 8 for both logo colors. I also put in which set the promo was part of. [[User:Samcarano|Samcarano]] ([[User talk:Samcarano|talk]]) 19:51, 28 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
Hey I noticed some file names for the johto series 1 sticker set that were already uploaded are incorrect. 40 and 44 are swapped in the file name. I am unaware of how to fix this.[[User:Samcarano|Samcarano]] ([[User talk:Samcarano|talk]]) 01:11, 29 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:That's interesting. I couldn't say why that happened or why I never noticed (and someone else had to fix it later on apparently)...<br />
:Anyway, on the Archives, you can put the Archives' {{template|move}} template on the page so the staff there will know and be able to move it.<br />
:As a note also, if you notice any images that are relatively low quality, like [[:File:Topps Johto 1 S45.png|Topps Johto 1 S45.png]], we'd be very happy if you are also able/willing to upload higher quality scans of those. Thanks! [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:51, 29 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Yes, I am willing to upload any scans of my cards. Do you have any pointers on how to spot lower quality scans? I know file size can usually be an indication but I also know that png images can be compressed with little loss.[[User:Samcarano|Samcarano]] ([[User talk:Samcarano|talk]]) 02:19, 29 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't think images that are that colorful can be compressed incredibly much, at least not anywhere near the size of images with such lower resolution. It might be a bit tedious, but that means you could just check [[A:Category:Collectible cards|Category:Collectible cards]], find where the Topps cards start, and just check for small sizes.<br />
:::You can also just check the user contributions of any person who you noticed has uploaded at least one LQ image. (It's a bit weird so you may not have noticed, but if you follow the link for S45/Steelix above and click "view on a shared repository" at the top of the page, it'll take you to the proper page on the Archives. On the Archives, you can see the user who uploaded it, LHakaLH in this case, and "contribs" will show their uploads and stuff.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:31, 29 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== some questions ==<br />
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hi. i'm not sure if you are the correct person to ask, but may i know how often does the admins reviews the articles in [[:Category:Candidates_for_moving]], and what is the procedure for moving of pages for admins? I suggested the renaming of [[List of Pokémon by New Unova Pokédex number]] to [[List of Pokémon by Unova Pokédex number (Black 2 and White 2)]] around 1.5 years ago. However, it had not been moved despite the hoenn and alola dex being moved to the format of "List of Pokémon by XXX Pokédex number (game)]]". I was told that admins will decide on the move after discussions, but most of the articles in [[:Category:Candidates_for_moving]] have no discussion at all, or the discussion only consist of the person who suggested it. Those that do have replies won't even last 5 people commenting on it. And the number of talk pages with the admins involved in the discussion is very minimum. It seems that <br />
most of the pages in that category are just sitting there for months with no signs of any work to move or remove them from the page. May i have some enlightenment about the procedure, such as if the admins actually have their own private discussions about those pages, just that we won't know about it? i previously bring this up [[Talk:List of Pokémon by Alola Pokédex number (Sun and Moon)#rename|<br />
on this talk page too]]. thank you for reading. If this is not the correct platform, please let me know the proper channel to enquire about it. Thank you again. -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] ([[User talk:Pokeant|talk]]) 07:52, 8 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:To be honest, I believe discussion happens in an EB-exclusive venue, so I don't really know much to tell you myself about what kind of impetus there is or how it plays out or what.<br />
:If you're worried about a particular page, it may be best to contact someone directly. That "a particular page" part may be important; I would suggest some moderation, not getting excited and asking for ''everything'' to be resolved at once. =P [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:01, 9 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you. the particular page is "[[List of Pokémon by New Unova Pokédex number]]". I feel that with the hoenn dex and alola dex being moved, i do not see the reason for the unova dex to not be moved to be consistent with the hoenn/alola dex page. -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] ([[User talk:Pokeant|talk]]) 03:00, 10 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== My confusion in regards to Grassy Terrain... ==<br />
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If Grassy Terrain is in effect, '''unless the target is in the semi-invulnerable turn of a move such as Dig''' or Dive, the power of Bulldoze, Earthquake, and Magnitude is halved (even if the user or the target is not grounded). <br />
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So basically, if I use Earthquake on something that used Dig, does it do a total of x1 damage (×1/2 from Grassy Terrain, ×2 from using Dig), or is Grassy Terrain's effect ignored when the Pokémon uses Dig, thus ×2? Does my question make sense?[[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 22:38, 13 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:The "×1/2 from Grassy Terrain" that you mention, you're supposing that comes from the sentence you've posted at the start? If so, that very sentence says that that 1/2 only is in effect IF the target is NOT using a move such as Dig. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:47, 13 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Okay, so the 1/2 is ignored and the total is ×2. I was just checking. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 22:54, 13 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Necrozma DM DW ==<br />
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In Megalo Tower we have an box like this with Ultra Necrozma, and i think this is more convencional since Necrozma is not catchable and need to be defeated during this battles. [[User:Pika fanatic|Pika fanatic]] ([[User talk:Pika fanatic|talk]]) January 27, 00:03 (UTC)<br />
:I fixed it. We do full battle templates for Trainers. Totem Pokemon get that treatment in Gen VII because the trials take the place of Gyms, but that's not what Necrozma is. If it's just part of the storyline, it doesn't warrant that. Otherwise it'd entail a '''lot''' more changes beyond just Necrozma. (This may be worth discussing&mdash;but my page isn't really the place for that). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:47, 28 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== BW142 ==<br />
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Could you please explain your edit to [[BW142]]? A Trainer can only carry six Pokémon at a time and Ash left more than six (Unfezant, Oshawott, Pignite, Snivy, Scraggy, Leavanny, Palpitoad, Boldore, Krookodile, and Charizard) at Oak's Laboratory. The "On hand" section on anime character pages always features up to six Pokémon. We use "In rotation" when Trainers are shown using more than six Pokémon. For reference, see the pages of May, Ursula, Nando, Virgil... --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 23:54, 6 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I agree that's a better phrasing, so I've revised the page in hopes of it being able to stand as a compromise. I hadn't thought of the possibility of using "in rotation"; thanks for the suggestion. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 23:58, 6 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I'm sorry, Mikuri. I tried to check what was going on a bit but in the mix I seem to have missed/forgotten the part where you said Ash left more than six Pokemon with Oak. I thought your issue was that he had fewer than six Pokemon "on hand".<br />
::That said, looking farther back this time, I really don't see any problem at all with Pumpkinking's original edit. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:08, 7 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Rotom Power Bag Pocket ==<br />
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Do you know anyone who could add the Rotom Power as a pocket for the bag? On my userpage are samples of the item pages for Rotom Powers, but default to the Z-crystals pocket since Rotom powers aren't part of the template yet. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 03:16, 17 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I received sprites for the pockets, so I can make it work soon. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:42, 22 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokemon species trivia ==<br />
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Can trivia about a Pokemon species ever be notable if it's not unique? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 02:11, 22 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
:As a rule, it is not. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:42, 22 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
::For example, does that mean the trivia about Dugtrio being immune to telekinesis needs to be deleted because mega Gengar is also immune to it? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:21, 22 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Done. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:15, 22 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Value of truth ==<br />
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I don't want to derail other discussions, so I'm taking this here. I'm alarmed by the attitude you've seemed to have on talk pages such as [[Talk:Team Skull Grunt (Trainer class)]] and [[Talk:Pokémon Communication Center]] in which you apparently don't think it's necessary to correct something false if it's something you consider minor. Phrases like "who really cares" and "what exactly is hurt" seem, in my mind, to be an effort to discourage people from trying to present the most truthful possible information. In my mind, these are plain-as-day cases of inarguably false information (niche cases, granted, but inarguably false nonetheless), and you seem actively interested in discouraging the correction of them.<br />
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For that reason, I wanted to directly ask: am I misinterpreting you, or do you really not think truth is an important value for Bulbapedia? If the latter, is that also the official staff position? If so, I'm not sure I can continue to feel comfortable participating in an encyclopedia if it isn't trying to be true. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:21, 23 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
:You're taking it much too dramatically.<br />
:I'm just going to address the specific cases directly.<br />
:I do not believe that there's really any point to trying to say on any page about grunts that they technically have a "Trainer class" that is their team name. (Note that I am not saying we should have "Team Skull Grunt (Trainer class)". I am not, either, saying we shouldn't, though. I'm personally leaving it for further comment, because, in short, things are ''alright'' as they are, I'm fine just waiting and focusing my own attention on other things.) The only place I think it would be worth communicating that there is no "Team Skull Grunt" Trainer class would be if we had a technical page that touched on the Trainer data in the ROM or something. The argument I made that you express concern about above was against your suggestion to merge grunts' info into team TC pages&mdash;that's all.<br />
:I do not consider an implication that the GS Ball is only available in Crystal's VC version a falsehood at all. You cannot obtain the GS Ball solely by playing Crystal's cartridge versions. There is no falsehood communicated. That said, I also ''explicitly'' did not say that only listing the VC item was the only option. I suppose I must admit, I tried to phrase my whole comment about the GS Ball relatively delicately; so let me attempt to make clear here that what I meant was: I do not think it is right for us to mention (or worry about) the cartridge GS Ball in the template, and I '''disfavor''' some extra note nearby (but it is still an '''option'''). To put it another way, the intended point was, noting the cartridge version in the template is more trouble than it's worth, but there are still solutions that we could '''add''' to the original revision before your original attempt to "fix" it. (Let's say that at least half as strongly as you are against only mentioning VC&mdash;which, again, is not the only option I entertain&mdash;I'm that strongly against any significant change to "Received from an attendant while attempting to exit after entering the [[Hall of Fame]] ([[Virtual Console]] only)" as your recent edit has done; it only hurts what is already perfectly useful.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 09:59, 23 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
::FYI, I now [[Talk:Pokémon Communication Center#Event items|do not think]] that there is any real reason to add any note about the cartridge event. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:59, 23 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== I brought it to the guy's talk page to avoid an edit war, but it's been over a week. ==<br />
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I'm talking about [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pokk%C3%A9n_Tournament&diff=2741661&oldid=2740232 this edit], specifically the release date. I even added the hidden text, but [[User:Akurochan]] flat out ignores it without even saying why. I asked him on [[User talk:Akurochan# Why did you keep changing Aegislash's release date?|his talk page]], but he hasn't even been on the site in over a week. What else am I allowed to do? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 22:53, 26 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Two questions.<br />
:1) What's your time zone? And do you remember when exactly you downloaded it?<br />
:2) I don't know Pokken, so just to be sure, when you said you downloaded it, I suppose that means you could immediately play it (and not that it ws locked for a while still)? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:33, 27 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
::My time-zone is EST, so it's 1:25 PM when I posted this. IIRC I was able to play it at 8:30 - 9:30 PM. It was playable immediately after the download finished. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 18:25, 27 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Japan's time is 14 hours ahead of you. It was reasonably released on the "correct" day when you downloaded it. It's fine. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:30, 27 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::In other words, I have to leave it alone. Is that correct? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 18:56, 27 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::It should not be changed. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:04, 27 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Very well, I understand now. Thanks for doing what Akurochan didn't do himself. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 19:17, 27 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Own Tempo Rockruff ==<br />
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I made a correct edit to the evolution section of Own Tempo Rockruff. Why was it reverted? [[User:IFlames|IFlames]] ([[User talk:IFlames|talk]]) 03:10, 1 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Note that it doesn't really make sense that you get '''Dusk''' Form at 5 AM (which is roughly ''dawn''). You're forgetting that in-game time is not the same as the real-world time (or more accurately, the 3DS clock, which also doesn't have to have ''any'' relation to real-world time). Only the in-game time matters. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:21, 1 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::I am currently playing UM and I can confirm the evolution takes place between 5 AM and 5:59 AM. I know it doesn't make sense but thats how it is. US is 5 PM to 5:59 PM. I strongly suggest you revert your re-edit, or if you dont believe me, try it out yourself. [[User:IFlames|IFlames]] ([[User talk:IFlames|talk]]) 03:36, 1 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Bear with me a second here... How do you know it's the 5 AM hour? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:39, 1 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::::Well first I saw bulbapedia saying 5PM hour. So i tried leveling up Rockruff then. But it didnt evolve. So I found a few posts on the internet saying it was the 5AM hour for UM. So then I tried it around 5:20 AM (3DS time), and it worked. Why on earth would I even lie about this or make the edit if I wasn;t sure? [[User:IFlames|IFlames]] ([[User talk:IFlames|talk]]) 03:42, 1 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I'm not at all saying you're lying. I'm saying you're missing something.<br />
:::::The 3DS's time is NOT the time in-game.<br />
:::::Try this. Check the time on your 3DS. Then go to a Pokemon Center in UM and talk to the cafe owner. (He doesn't tell you the same time.)<br />
:::::That is to say, even though your 3DS says 5 AM, it's still 5 PM in the game when you're evolving Rockruff. The page is correct. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:52, 1 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== "Trade" in Item Locations ==<br />
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For games where you can only obtain items through Trade, do we put down it as [[Trade]] or ''[[Trade]]''? FinnishPokéFan92 has been changing the latter back to the former, so I'm not sure which to go with now. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 01:47, 7 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I personally believe that the italicized one is better because it makes it readily distinguishable from other rows (where it's actually directly obtainable in-game). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:51, 7 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Agreed. I'll change them back when I find them again. Thanks. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 01:55, 7 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
Oh yeah in the same vein, under acquisition in item pages, when an item can be found in an area more than once (but still finite), do leave just the location or do we include the number of times it can be found? (6 [[Thunderstone]]s for example can be found in [[Ultra Plant]]). [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 02:53, 7 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I guess it's simple enough, I don't think a count like that is a problem. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:05, 7 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::If I may intrude, that would require a lot of "backtracking" so to say, as many already existing item pages lack the amount of it obtainable in every finite way, especially when talking about earlier generations. This is why I personally would oppose the idea, even if only for the sheer size of that job, but if someone is ready to do all that checking for every single existing item page, knock yourselves out. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:21, 7 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I think if it's missing, no big deal. It can be fixed sooner or later. And if it's often "later", even "much later", that's, again, not a huge deal. It's fine without, but also probably nice with a count. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:27, 7 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Food Stall color ==<br />
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I don't get what you meant by that. The other Festival Plaza facilities don't share the same progression of palettes with each other. In fact, a majority of the most common ones are primarily or partially red, not blue. Plus there is nothing I've ever seen of Alola having some overarching color scheme outside the island names being colors in Hawaiian, and those four aren't applicable there, or with any of the different facility palettes.<br />
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I get keeping the descriptions of the facility palettes simple, but unless there's something in the game's code or from a guidebook that has official names for the facility colors that I'm not aware of, I just don't see what you mean by them having explicit palettes[[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 02:47, 8 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Let me get the issue of the "palette" out of the way. There are actually two reasonable color "palettes" you can take from SM/USUM. The first is the simple 7 "primary" colors of ROYGBIV, as seen in [[Poké Bean]] colors and {{p|Minior}}'s forms. The second is seen in the 8 colors you can [[Festival Plaza#Dye houses|dye]] clothes in (which many [[fashion item]]s also naturally have). (Pink is the "odd man out" in the latter set; "navy blue" could be considered a parallel to "indigo" and "purple" a parallel to "violet", and all other colors have the same names.)<br />
:Now&mdash;if we exclude the obviously Pokemon-themed colorations of some facilities&mdash;every facility's color scheme is plainly based on one of these "primary" colors...or black. The black is a huge through line, so that gets a pass. But "brown" is not part of Alola's "palette" and it's not even remotely a significant pattern with any other facilities. Calling that one facility theme "brown" is ignoring the blatant pattern that everything else fits in; it's not reasonable that just one doesn't, especially when there are plain elements of a primary color in the building's color scheme. It may be relatively subdued, but it is the most meaningful label for this. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:07, 8 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::That's quite an arbitrary rule to apply to this. You're just applying the standard ROYGBIV, not something unique to the Pokemon games themselves, like Floette flowers, or the island colors. Plus, unlike the island colors, which are far more prevalent in Alola (Battle Royal Dome's stage entrances, the Battle Royal Dome symbol itself, Oricorio's forms, parts of the respective Island Kahunas' clothing, the Island Guardians), there's only two seemingly solid cases of it: Minior and Poke Beans. <br />
::As well, those two are not perfect matches for ROYGBIV. The "blue" and "indigo" Minior Forms and Poke Bean colors are closer to being cyan and blue, respectively. I checked the RGB levels of the sprites in an editing program and none of the "Indigo" ones had red levels higher than their green levels Which for Indigo the RGB levels are usually around 75,0,130. The "blue" ones were far from being dominantly blue, having a fair mix of green and blue, which shades of Cyan usually have. Not to mention the "blue" pattern bean is nearly entirely white. <br />
::All this, along with the Pink and Navy Blue dye shops and the odd Black themed facilities throughout not fitting with the ROYGBIV palette, leads me to the conclusion that it's not nearly as concrete of a design theory as it might seem. <br />
::In conclusion, I think that we should provide descriptions of objects and locations based on what we see, not based on our assumptions. [[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 06:44, 8 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::If the games want to identify whatever shades as "blue" or "indigo" or whatever, so long as it's halfway reasonable (i.e., not "blue" for '''orange'''), that's their choice and not even something worth arguing...<br />
:::Among the other three food stall variations, the only things that consistently match the obvious color theme are the checkers and the paneling flanking them. The first food stall variation bucks that pattern, with those parts having different colors. And, of the two parts, I think it's profoundly reasonable to focus on the checker pattern. Brown isn't remotely worth calling a color scheme, it's just wood, a ''default''. The plain design touch is the blue checkers. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:18, 8 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Ok, I'll concede, I hadn't checked what the in-game Pokedex names Minior's forms prior to now. Poke Beans also likely follow that scheme, even if it's not as solid, there's still 7 of them and they somewhat follow ROYGBIV. The same for the dye stalls; Navy Blue could just be a mistranslation of Indigo. (and I just thought of Pink being there to fully represent the Island colors alongside ROYGBIV)<br />
::::But I still think it's quite a large leap in logic to assume that other things in-game fit that when they don't come in a set of 7 colors that resemble ROYGBIV as those three examples do. [[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 20:52, 8 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I don't think there's a big leap of logic, but I don't think that's the only reason to choose "blue" either. Like I said, that's really the only reasonable color you can point to as the design choice ("brown" is not the design choice, it's just the foundation). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:43, 9 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Once again, that's a very arbitrary distinction. Brown is a color just the same as blue is. I don't see what makes it different from any other color that makes it just a "foundation". Regular wooden surfaces are just as valid in real life for designing building exteriors or interiors as any painted surface. [[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 04:38, 9 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I really don't think this is hard. Blue is a color that the other variations have used. Brown isn't. There's simply NO good reason to choose brown uniquely here instead of blue. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:29, 9 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Grant (trivia) ==<br />
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I simplified my earlier edit to include only Geodude - though Roxanne does have an Onix- in rematches that is.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 08:33, 16 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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: What do you mean not enough Rock-type gym leaders - how many does there have to be for a comparison?[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:48, 19 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Maybe 10. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:25, 19 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Serrebi ==<br />
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Hi. Noticed your post on a user's page. Wnat to know, what iss tealing from Serribbi? Is it not fair use to note facts regardless of who discovered them? I am not an expert in law so it seems quite new to me (after all, I did not underatand copyright or IP rights well until a few years ago). [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 00:26, 21 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:It's pretty simple. Serebii has expressed that they do not allow other sites to take their information. If you find something at Serebii, you'll have to find an independent source or confirm it on your own before you can edit it here. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:29, 21 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I understand. But is there any legal reason to avoid? I do not plan on posting anything from there (rarely visit it anyway), but just wondering. Does this mean research can be copyrighted? [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 01:38, 21 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::As they say: I am not a lawyer. All I can say is that BP staff wouldn't long tolerate anyone continually trying to use Serebii's info here. We have no desire to antagonize them. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:48, 21 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks. Did not realize there were people like that. One learns somthing new every day. [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 02:04, 21 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Fossil Pages ==<br />
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Hiya! I got the individual Fossil pages on my userspace I believe are ready to be mainspaced. If you deem they are, how would we go about this procedure with the current X and Y Fossils format? [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 01:27, 23 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Hey. I'd like to follow-up on this. I still think splitting the Fossil pages is a good idea, following the recent changes to item pages and making 'em consistent. They also have changed characteristics over the gens and I believe the template makes info easier to grasp without having to read through the write-ups in the current fossil pages.<br />
:I've updated them for Let's Go. Please take a look see at my userspace. Thanks! [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 23:38, 23 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::On another note, could you delete the pages under "mainspaced pages" in my userspace? The content in them have already been transferred to mainspace and no longer have use. Thanks again. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 23:41, 23 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't know if I lost this before or what... Anyways, I'll see what other staff think and/or look at them tomorrow.<br />
:::(Also, this is pretty far up my page (with little really unique substance here). It would have been simpler to just reinitiate in a new section.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:07, 24 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== untitled ==<br />
Stick to your pages and I'll stick to mine. Thanks. {{unsigned|Vyper3006}}<br />
:This does not constitute a discussion. I await any substance. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:05, 25 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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You have it. <br />
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https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPoQ7QU8fR_pFFfBvm488IP_N3sMzgzFflr2t9C<br />
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Why are you saying it isn't a real card?<br />
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== List of moves and abilities affecting abilities ==<br />
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You undid my edit, saying that it was "already mentioned". Where was it already mentioned? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:15, 28 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Where you put it before and where I removed those tables, easily visible if you look at the diff. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:30, 28 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::You only told me not to put the tables above the list of abilities, so I re-added them below the list of abilities. Why can't I have the tables there? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 23:02, 28 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I'm confused. Do you or do you not realize that the things you want to add are currently on the page already? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:40, 29 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I realized just now. Oh well. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 02:46, 29 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Unacceptable User Name chain ==<br />
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An array of users named after Communists has just shown up. Might want to nip this in the bud.--[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 02:07, 29 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Types and "metagame" information ==<br />
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Why is information about "the metagame" (stuff like "this type is good when combined with this other type") allowed on the pages about types but nowhere else? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 23:27, 2 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Thunder wave ==<br />
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When I added that trivia (or trivium or whatever), I meant thunder wave was the only status move whose immunities ''behave according to the type chart''. You know, the one that looks like this. <br />
{| class="roundy" style="border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"<br />
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! colspan="2" rowspan="2" | ×<br />
! colspan="18" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#4C4BA4" | <small>Defending type</small><br />
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! style="background:#{{normal color}}" | {{ic|Normal}}<br />
! style="background:#{{fighting color}}" | {{ic|Fighting}}<br />
! style="background:#{{flying color}}" | {{ic|Flying}}<br />
! style="background:#{{poison color}}" | {{ic|Poison}}<br />
! style="background:#{{ground color}}" | {{ic|Ground}}<br />
! style="background:#{{rock color}}" | {{ic|Rock}}<br />
! style="background:#{{bug color}}" | {{ic|Bug}}<br />
! style="background:#{{ghost color}}" | {{ic|Ghost}}<br />
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | {{ic|Steel}}<br />
! style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{ic|Fire}}<br />
! style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{ic|Water}}<br />
! style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{ic|Grass}}<br />
! style="background:#{{electric color}}" | {{ic|Electric}}<br />
! style="background:#{{psychic color}}" | {{ic|Psychic}}<br />
! style="background:#{{ice color}}" | {{ic|Ice}}<br />
! style="background:#{{dragon color}}" | {{ic|Dragon}}<br />
! style="background:#{{dark color}}" | {{ic|Dark}}<br />
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | {{ic|Fairy}}<br />
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFF; font-size:90%"<br />
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| colspan="20" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" | <small>These matchups are suitable for {{color2|000|Generation VI}} onward.</small><br />
|}According to that chart, grass and electric are not immune to anything, so the fact that stun spore couldn't hit them had to be ''programmed separately.'' What I was trying to say earlier was that thunder wave was the only status move that ''behaves according to this chart'' and was not ''programmed separately.'' Do you understand what I'm trying to say now? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 23:27, 2 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I still don't think it's so important a difference that it's worth any trivia. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:52, 3 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Klinklang ==<br />
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Hello. On the page for Klinklang, you removed my trivia because it was noticeable. Noticeable Trivia does appear a fair bit on Bulbapedia and if you looked at the Gen 5 Sprites, it isn't that obvious. I'm just wondering why it was removed as such. Thanks. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 15:33, 10 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:We just don't list things already visible on the page. That's just repetitive, when anyone can see it if they care. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:20, 10 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== How? ==<br />
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Seriously, how did you not see the poor English and punctuation in [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Unnamed_island_(EP098)&diff=prev&oldid=2768100 these] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Cinnabar_Island&diff=prev&oldid=2768111 edits]? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:47, 21 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:What do those matter? It's not at all unintelligible. The changes it seems you've now made are minor. That's not even remotely a basis for outright rejection. If you don't want to fix it, leave it alone, you can't revert it just because it bugs you a bit. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:01, 21 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I reverted those because I wasn't sure what the original editor was trying to communicate due to the poor English, and I feared that any changes I made would ruin the intended meaning. For example, with the second diff, it mentions a "Gyarados hot spring tap". Since I didn't see that episode, I didn't know if the Gyarados was a typo, or if the hot spring tap was supposed to be shaped like a Gyarados, or if there was a missing key word. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:25, 21 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::That's just one (arguable) sentence. Not remotely warranting wholesale reversion. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:09, 21 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Like I said, one change could've ruined the whole meaning the user was trying to communicate, and I couldn't leave it like that. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:14, 22 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::...That doesn't mean reverting the whole thing was right. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:16, 22 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Well, what was I supposed to do? And yes, I know that I did "improvements" after you undid my reversion, but I'm still not confident that was what the user was trying to say. It was that confusing to me. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:17, 22 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::You can try talking. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:16, 22 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Kinda hard to do that now that the user thinks I'm a racist. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:31, 22 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::As far as I'm concerned, that's just an excuse to give up. ...Don't. (Also, that is not how I read their message.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:19, 22 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Flavor Page ==<br />
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I'm relatively new to editing wikis, so I'm not sure if I ought to "...discuss this one first" {{ut|Tiddlywinks|here on your talk page}}, or on the Flavor article's [[Talk:Flavor|talk page]], but I figured I'd start here to give myself a better chance of being sure that you read this and don't accidentally miss it.<br />
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My main issue with the [[Flavor|Flavor page]] as it stands now is that the {{DL|Flavor|List_of_Apricorns_by_flavor|Apricorn section}} has the flavors listed in the "correct" order (that being Spicy, Sour, Dry, Bitter, and Sweet) while the page's intro, flavor preference table, Contest/Pokéathlon table, and the berry tables for gens III, IV, and e-Reader all have the flavors listed in the following order: Spicy (+Atk), Dry (+SpA), Sweet (+Spe), Bitter (+SpD), and Sour (+Def) [so not quite half-and-half, like I first thought - that's my bad].<br />
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This is, to me, pretty unintuitive, since stats are most always ordered HP (N/A here), Atk, Def, SpA, SpD, and Spe. I was actually looking at the flavor page for more info about {{cat|Berries_that_may_cause_confusion|confusion berries}} and ended up super confused (hah, didn't even mean for that silly little joke to happen) for a moment because of the ordering of the flavors (though that may just be indicative of ignorance on my part). Because 6/7 sections have the flavors ordered in the "weird" way, I'm beginning to think that there's probably a reason for it. If there is and I'm missing it, then please do let me know! However, even if that were to be the case, I, personally, still think that ordering the flavors to match with the traditional order of stats would be more beneficial overall. It makes things easier for dumb-dumbs like me, so that we don't have to go to {{DL|Nature|Stat-focused_table|an entirely different page}} in order to figure out what the heck is going on.<br />
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And, just on the off chance that you're considering it, there's no need to copy-paste that table onto the Flavor page - the current table is totally fine for its page (though I certainly wouldn't complain if I could reinstate my edited version of it!), since it's more focused on the flavors themselves, rather than the increase and decrease of stats that come along with most natures. At the very least, we ought to make all seven sections consistent, one way or the other.<br />
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Thanks!<br />
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<nowiki>~</nowiki>[[User:Mimikyuuuuuuu|Mimikyuuuuuuu]] ([[User talk:Mimikyuuuuuuu|talk]]) 05:12, 27 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:First things first, there is only one place on that page where any of those basic stats is mentioned at all ("Attack"). On the rest of the page, no one will be able to tell what stat each flavor corresponds to without a whole bunch of cross-referencing (or memorization). So the proposition that an "incorrect" order might be any particular problem is fairly dubious.<br />
:FYI, it was also kind of a problem that you didn't change all of the tables. (I don't mean to say that it's okay for you to make the change if you do everything up "right".)<br />
:My primary concern about the "proper" order was that I'd like to know what the games actually do. And {{pkmn|Contest}} categories are listed in the order Cool Beauty Cute Smart Tough, just as the second table currently on the page shows. IMO this is a fine order since Contests are pretty strongly linked with the flavors (at least stronger than anything else). There doesn't seem to be any real consistency in other things, like the stat order when viewing a [[Pokéblock]], the [[List of items by index number (Generation VII)|default order]] of the [[Apricorn]]s, the [[performance]] stat order...<br />
:Given that general inconsistency, it may be reasonable to default to the order of basic stats. But personally, I don't think it's that huge a deal, either.<br />
:(FYI, you can usually make comments on a mainspace talk page first. It's much easier for other people to contribute opinions there. And people will generally pay some attention...especially if they've explicitly suggested the talk page. But even if you don't seem to get a resonse, you can always make a short comment on the person's user talk page to direct their attention to the talk page you commented on.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:13, 27 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Alola Dex in Ultras Sun and Moon==<br />
Hey there. I need your help with something. Can you add this to the Pokémon Infobox so I can add the dex numbers on the Pokémon that appeared in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon?: a2dex And maybe add a category like this? Category:Pokémon in the Alola Pokédex in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon. Kinda like how you did in Pokémon Black 2 and White 2. [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 15:59, 29 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:As we've told a number of people who have asked in other places, we are considering moving the 'dex numbers out of the infobox. As you can see on {{p|Zubat}}'s page, its infobox is already very well packed with the 'dex numbers. Trying to make a new format so we can add another could be very complex, especially with the more or less random nature of which 'dex numbers each Pokemon has. We think that putting that info somewhere else may be better. There still has not been a decision on the matter. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:10, 30 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Quotes ==<br />
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I'm planning to redo all the quotes for characters in core series games (I have nothing to do), while filling out any missing quotes. I just wanted to check a few things.<br />
*Do references to other characters and items requires linking to the articles; the names for the characters or items aren't directly stated ([[Special:Diff/2771756|example]])?<br />
*Do quotes in "scream" speech bubbles need to be bolded? ([[Special:Diff/2771753|example - first line in USUM section]]: "This is excellent! Exciting, even...")<br />
*For battles, are "Before battling, Upon being defeated, After being defeated, If the player is defeated" the correct terms to use? (I think I previously discussed with you before, but another admin sometimes changed the "Upon being defeated" back to "Being defeated".)<br />
Are do these doesn't really matter at all? (I doubt anybody pays attention to the quotes section) Thanks. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#4B0082;">95</span>]]''' 09:04, 30 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I'm not sure about linking indirect references. Right now...I suppose if it were me, I wouldn't remove them but I also don't know if I would be motivated to add them. (Very possibly, if I were specifically looking at something, I might realize that the links are a good idea; or possibly the opposite. Right now, though, I'm just not sure.)<br />
:Personally I don't like bold for screaming. It's never come across like it was actually supposed to be screaming to me.<br />
:I do prefer that set, with the exception that "if the player is defeated" is unnecessary since the first half already entirely implies that. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:00, 30 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Cute Charm ==<br />
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The sentence, "The set of possible values depends on the gender of the Pokémon with Cute Charm, and if the Pokémon with Cute Charm is female, the wild Pokémon's gender ratio." looked kind of weird and I thought it had a grammar error. It looked like it was trying to say something like "depends on the gender of the Pokemon, whether the Pokemon with Cute Charm is female, and the wild Pokemon's gender ratio." Can we possibly make it more clear and obvious that it isn't a grammar error? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 03:04, 2 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Fixed. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:08, 2 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Okay thanks. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 14:55, 2 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== The Ash's Charizard gender debate, and the reason I ceased participation on it ==<br />
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Force Fire said this when I contacted them(my notes added to show my thought process reading this):<br />
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"First of all, Dennou is not a former staff member, he is still a senior administrator"<br />
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My mistake. <br />
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"Secondly, you need to stop going around like you have some sort of authority"<br />
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I know that and neither want nor care for authority on this site, nor have I been actively attempting to inflect such....Passion for rules =/= projecting authority or seniority unless you are assuming bad faith/intent on my end...<br />
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"Thirdly, just because I've been very strict on anything gender related, doesn't mean I'm going to say "no" every single time"<br />
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I'd like an example of them saying yes on non-Force Fire-written and mandated gender policy-based evidence, but they're right in a way). <br />
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"There is actual legitimate evidence/source for Dennou's claim"<br />
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Tomioka is invoking Word of God like JK Rowling retconned a Jewish Student into Hogwarts despite wizards and witches having no prior evidence of organized religion besides the occasional "my God"...that's how <br />
Word of God works, which this echoes IMO. <br />
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"Tomioka is an actual writer for the show, so he probably knows more and probably has control over how he wants characters to be portrayed"<br />
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Does he have authority over other anime staff? Is he the one who OKs final decisions? I don't know if this is true or if Force Fire is assuming this (And if so, based on what)?. <br />
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"Tracy West novelisations is not written by a writer from the (Japanese) show. There's a big difference"<br />
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Yeah, it was a bad, rather sarcastically-motivated example in hindsight)<br />
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...I feel bad for ever entering into it based on a big red warning label on the top of the talkpage...Am I supposed to feel ashamed for even trying to quote policy? Did it really come off as bossing people around in a Brainy Smurf-esque way via poor wording? Or did I catch Force Fire in a bad mood/at a bad time...can you sort this out my confusion/shame? --[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 02:34, 4 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:ForceFire can answer best for ForceFire, as I rule I don't like to speak for others.<br />
:I think keeping in mind the possibility that you might be wrong is a way not to sound too bossy. If there's one thing I hate, it's being wrong. So I try to ask myself what I'm overlooking; it can be a bitter pill, but I like the other option less. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:24, 4 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I'm not asking you to speak for ForceFire:I'm asking if I should feel ashamed for even discussing the matter if I'm not someone important enough. And just cause I report rulebreaks doesn't mean I think I'm a cop, judge, jury or executioner:At best I'm a tipster. --[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 12:52, 4 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::You asked if Force Fire was in a bad mood. I do not know that. (And I'm not going to just ask and be a relay.)<br />
:::I'm not certain where you get the idea that only "important" people can discuss any particular thing on the wiki or whatever.<br />
:::But generally I would not say you should feel bad. That probably won't really ease anything, but it may help move past it. (Which isn't to say there shouldn't be anything that can be learned from the matter.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:43, 4 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::That was meant to be rhetorical. I'm sorry for that not being worded in such a way.<br />
::::It does seem that some people, like Lady Ariel, Pumpkinking, Playerking and FinnishPokémonfan get a lot more "freebies" regarding importance and/or extra rulebreaks, so I tend to feel that they are given special treatment due to edit count despite their lack of staff status and/or serial troublemaking.<br />
::::That's what I needed to hear. I will rejoin the discussion now that my head's clear. --[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 22:42, 4 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::If you're comparing (contrasting, rather, I suppose) those users to yourself, no one on staff has gone to your user talk page about anything for, it looks like, very nearly a whole 3 years. You're not in any special trouble about anything. (...To the extent of my knowledge. Which is mainly just a paranoid disclaimer.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:40, 5 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Smogon and fansite rulings ==<br />
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If Showdown(created, owned and maintained by Smogon) isn't a reliable source(Though I think it should be, but Verlisify fans/sympathizers run this site and Serebii, methinks), why is Smogon OK for some reason? They're one and the same, and they cross-reference each other. And have they given permission to use their info? Or is it a case of petty rivalry based on perceived betrayal(s) and flimsy accusations between webmasters that lead to digital Iron Curtains like with Serebii and PokéBeach(That needs to end...That was how many years ago? Talent gets moved around all the time...), and no permission is given/received between them and us? Or should I ask EB/Archaic(To see if he has an old, unnecessary grudge with Smogon's owner, as well)for a more concrete status of Smogon/Showdown? --[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 03:16, 12 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Look. If you're gonna come to my talk page with your mind already set against us like this and just being antagonistic, I'm not gonna be inclined to give you any remotely substantive response.<br />
:Have a good day. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:16, 12 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I apologize for that rant...I had just seen Avengers:Infinity War earlier this week, and it made me...emotional, to say the least. I would like to know why Smogon is a valid source but Showdown isn't, though. ::Again, sorry for that. --[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 01:44, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Source code about source code is a step beyond what we're comfortable with trusting. Put simply, Showdown's accuracy always has to be couched in a caveat. Only the game can truly be trusted to perfectly represent the game. Showdown has had to correct mistakes, and we can't necessarily say where remaining ones are or aren't. It's one thing to look at the ''game'' and say, see, because of this, this is how that works; it's another thing to look at Showdown and say, well, Showdown says this&mdash;and chances are ''pretty good'' it's right. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:03, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Re: {{m|Air Cutter}} trivia ==<br />
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Sorry if my edit summary was unclear. What I meant was, since there are no Triple Battles in Generation VII (set in Alola), Flying-type attacks introduced in that generation can't hit non-adjacent Pokémon (since there are none). So this feature of the move is no longer unique. I'm surprised the trivium hasn't already been removed. [[User:Dinosauramiable|Dinosauramiable]] ([[User talk:Dinosauramiable|talk]]) 21:57, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:If you're talking about a feature unique to Triple Battles, you can't say anything about moves that you can't use in Triple Battles. The inverse is that you can use every other move in Triple Battles to hit non-adjacent foes, and this is not a thing you can rate true/false for new moves because (again) you can't use them in Triple Battles. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:10, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::In that case, the trivium should specify "the only pre-Generation VII damaging Flying-type move" or something instead of "the only damaging Flying-type move"; right now it's misleading. Unless that makes it not notable... [[User:Dinosauramiable|Dinosauramiable]] ([[User talk:Dinosauramiable|talk]]) 22:14, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::It says "in Triple Battles", it's not rightly logical to consider moves you could never use in Triple Battles. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:19, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
Fine. [[User:Dinosauramiable|Dinosauramiable]] ([[User talk:Dinosauramiable|talk]]) 22:19, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Ancient Trait Cards ==<br />
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Dear Tiddlywinks,<br />
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I was hoping you could answer some of my queries:<br />
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1. I have noticed that the Ancient Trait 'variety' of card renowned for its artwork style differences and ancient trait abilities (not included in other card types, though some cross over exists with some Mega Evolution cards also listed as Ancient Trait cards e.g. M Sceptile and M Rayquaza) is not listed as a TCG Pokémon card type, is there a reason for this?<br />
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2. Also should Kingdra's Primal Clash 108 and XY39 (which redirects to Primal Clash 108) cards be listed as separate cards in the Ancient Trait article due to artwork differences or not?<br />
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I look forward to hearing your response,<br />
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Thank you in advance.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 04:19, 14 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I know very little about the TCG. You would do better to ask someone else. Possibly {{u|glik}}, or anyone who regularly contributes to TCG pages. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:19, 14 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:: Thank you for the advice.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 06:07, 14 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Deletions by user:GrammarFreak01 ==<br />
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Thank you for stepping in last time, though GrammarFreak01 has again deleted all of my work leaving a useless comment behind to justify the drastic action. I was concerned maybe what I had written was to detailed, though my additions were in regards to Cameran Palace's various rooms visited in M08. I may be wrong, but I believed at the time of writing that the information was appropriate for the page dedicated to the location. GrammarFreak01 has been advised against such actions and ways to better handle any personal concerns, including contacting the user at hand; none of which has occurred. I do not wish to enter an edit war, and would like my changes reinstated, even if modified, and actions taken against the user for overstepping the mark one too many times. I do not believe the actions are of a personal nature, and have witnessed them against other users. Hope to hear shortly [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:40, 18 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:I did not understand the point of describing every single room inside. And what other users are you talking about? You're making a pretty serious accusation there. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:48, 18 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I'm sorry for not responding sooner. I've been trying to think, and I also haven't heard much from others I've tried to ask. <br />
::My thoughts are, I know that game locations can have pretty detailed descriptions. And the areas that were described do not seem to be accounted for any other way on the page. So it seems to me the additions might be worthwhile.<br />
::I think the best idea may be to try to start a wider discussion about if that's needed. That may be able to inform a stronger conclusion a little while later. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:25, 20 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Hi Tiddlywinks, a bit of an update. I streamlined what I had previously put in, deeming it of value given that these rooms were visited in the movie and having looked at other location pages, such details appear to be of interest. Fantastic news, instead of deleting the new additions, user GrammarFreak01 swapped a few sentences around to give the page a better structure. I'm really happy with the result. I would still have preferred discussion with GrammarFreak01 before deleting all of the additions. I might draft a generalist checklist for any future location pages, unless we already have one of those?. Thanks for getting back to me [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 23:14, 20 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I'm not really into the anime so I don't really know much about specifics of their structure or anything. (Like I didn't know that any other anime locations went into similar details.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:45, 21 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Shipping:List of anime shippings]] ==<br />
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So what's the inclusion criteria for that list? I notice that the content that I deleted obviously has their own articles, but other main character ships like [[PokéShipping]] and [[AmourShipping]] are not included despite having articles of their own. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:06, 19 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:There are two options. Just include any anime shippings like the page title fundamentally implies. Or ask someone who might know what "line" there is (and then also describe that line at the top of the page; although I can't really imagine why there should be any such line). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:19, 19 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I can't imagine doing the second option since it's actually been over a year since there were any edits done to that page before me, so obviously no one's really keeping track of it. I guess I'll go with the first option when I have the time. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:27, 19 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Promotions ==<br />
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Am I allowed to congratulate you on your new administrator status? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 02:53, 28 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Sure. (And thanks.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:53, 28 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Congratulations on your new administrator status! [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 06:03, 28 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Alola League ==<br />
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Why do we not need the thing you removed? It could be helpful. {{unsigned|Elite4Alola}}<br />
:It's already on [[Pokémon League (Alola)]]. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 09:36, 28 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== About the Spaceworld demo... ==<br />
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I want to ask you a question. How can you prove the legitimacy of the ROM? I mean, it fits everything we know about the ROM, and it fits the Honoguma picture that surfaced in 2013, but at the same time it has some some things that sound fanservice-y (Misty as an Elite Four, Red as a Gym Leader...). I'm asking because I'm curious.. --[[User:Prog rocker|Prog rocker]] ([[User talk:Prog rocker|talk]]) 03:19, 2 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I don't know. It's not really my decision. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:59, 2 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Okay, thank you for answering my question.--[[User:Prog rocker|Prog rocker]] ([[User talk:Prog rocker|talk]]) 21:12, 2 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Individual Pokémon in Shuffle weekly cycle ==<br />
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May I know how do we plan to include where/when the Pokémon appears in the "Game location: In side games" section of each individual Pokémon for Pokémon Shuffle? I doubt we need to include the UX Stages since it's the same as the initial Main Stages. Here are a few suggestions for Special Stages:<br />
::Daily, Special Daily, Safari etc. (With form differences):<br />
*Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Special Daily Pokémon (First release)|Special Daily Pokémon}}'' <small>(Winking; First release) <sup>(Prior to February 13, 2018)</sup></small><br>Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Special Daily Pokémon}}'' <small>(Winking; Week 4 & 16) <sup>(From February 13, 2018 onward)</sup></small><br />
*Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Special Daily Pokémon (First release)|Special Daily Pokémon}}'' <small>(Winking; First release)</small>{{tt|*|Prior to February 13, 2018}}<br>Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Special Daily Pokémon}}'' <small>(Winking; Week 4 & 16)</small>{{tt|*|From February 13, 2018 onward}}<br />
*Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Special Daily Pokémon (First release)|Special Daily Pokémon}}'' <small>(Winking; First release — Prior to February 13, 2018)</small><br>Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Special Daily Pokémon}}'' <small>(Winking; Week 4 & 16 — From February 13, 2018 onward)</small><br />
::Daily, Special Daily, Safari etc. (Without form differences):<br />
*Event: ''[[Special Stages#The Daily Pokémon (#6)|The Daily Pokémon (#6)]]'' <sup>(Prior to February 13, 2018)</sup><br />
*Event: ''[[Special Stages#Daily Pokémon|The Daily Pokémon (Week 7 & 19)]]'' <sup>(From February 13, 2018 onward)</sup><br />
::Great, Ultra, Special Challenges etc.<br />
*Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Great Challenge|Mimikyu Appears}}'' <sup>(Prior to February 13, 2018)</sup><br>Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Great Challenge|Mimikyu Appears}}'' <small>(Week 6)</small> <sup>(From February 13, 2018 onward</sup><br />
Or simply just<br />
*Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Great Challenge|Mimikyu Appears}}'' <small>(Week 6)</small><br />
Or do not add anything until how Pokémon Shuffle will display from now onward are fully decided? — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#4B0082;">95</span>]]''' 10:30, 5 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I hardly know anything about Shuffle off the top of my head, honestly. {{u|CycloneGU}} was into Shuffle, but they haven't been that active recently, though I think they've still kind of got an ear to Bulbapedia.<br />
:If you want me to figure it out, I'd start real basic. Like, when you ask "how do we plan to include [...]", it sounds like there's no location info for Shuffle on at least some pages. From above, I can identify {{p|Pikachu}} and {{p|Mimikyu}}, who do seem to have location info, so I'm confused. Are you actually saying that the current info is inadequate? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:54, 6 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Ah, I see. And yeah, haven't seen him around lately. Perhaps I can just leave this on his talk page until he sees it. Currently, the info already on each individual Pokémon pages are Special Stages (Event) that is prior to the update on February 13. Now, the Special Stages are pre-set for each week. I just wanted to ask if Bulbapedia wants to separate them from the two versions. But I guess I'll just leave a message at CycloneGU's talk page. Sorry for bothering. :) — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#4B0082;">95</span>]]''' 12:59, 6 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Template pages ==<br />
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Do templates usually get a move tag if they need to be tagged to be moved? This is because I have noticed that [[Template:Ash and Pikachu characters|two of]] [[Template:Pokémon Battrio characters|them]] had incorrect/incomplete page names and I wasn't sure if those types of tags go on templates aside from normal pages. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 04:07, 6 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Tagging templates can easily be done wrong, so it may be simpler to just bring it up with someone on {{bp|staff}}. (Besides, template names don't really affect a whole lot, people don't really see them, so they may not even be a huge problem, depending.)<br />
:What "should" the linked templates be titled? (And what's wrong with the current title?) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:54, 6 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::The Ash and Pikachu one, it was missing an amphersand sign since the actual manga contained that instead of the original ''and'' and the Battrio manga adaptation one was the one that didn't contain the whole manga title in its name for the template. It was for consistency reasons since many of the other templates containing manga characters had the full titles, such as [[Template:Let's Play the Pokémon Card Game! Sun and Moon Arc characters|this one]]. Hope this helps. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 21:23, 6 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Talk page comment arrangements ==<br />
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In regards to PardescanSlowbro's talk page, I was responding to his comment: ''"I must be dim. I thought you said major appearances equals appearances where the individual was central to the plot? Some of the deleted points may need to be reinstated based solely on this definition."'' How are they going to know which comment I'm referring to if I just post my comment (''"Yes, that is ''exactly'' what I said. There's nothing about the deleted points that would indicate they fall under "major appearances". Can you give any specific examples so I know what exactly you're talking about?"'') at the end of their talk page? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:44, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:How about...''don't'' just post ''"Yes, that is exactly what I said [...]"''. If two people are talking in a group and you want to respond to something one says but they keep talking, you're not just SOL when you get a chance to speak later. Nothing binds you to start without preamble like you would have if you could have responded immediately. It's really not ''that'' hard, just remind them. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:01, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::What rules dictate this? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:06, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Dictate what? If you want to respond without preamble that's your choice, I guess, we don't have a rule about that. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:11, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I meant the whole talk page arrangement in general. It befuddles me how this is possible here. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:14, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::How...responding in order is "possible"? It should be the most basic common sense. Responding ''out'' of order only screws up the order of the people who posted ''before'' you and who you've now forced after ''you''. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:32, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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I would like to jump in here, Tiddlywinks. What GrammarFreak01 is asking is what decision or rule requires Bulbapedia talk pages to have all comments go in order of when they were posted when compared to other wikis where comments are more like branches and split off when multiple users comment on a single reply. Frankly, I am curious as well regarding the order since the discussion on PardescanSlowbro's talk page does not make much sense in the current order, but I believe that there must be a reason for doing it this way. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 20:30, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:"What rule?" More or less just as I and other staff have said: "Comments go in order". The reason is also as I said above: anything else really just screws with everything else. Other wikis are welcome to do what they want. Bulbapedia asks that comments go in order (effectively just like any natural conversation; the entire species has managed to do that fine for a very long time, people can manage here too). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:43, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::But is that in Bulbapedia's actual set of official rules and guidelines? Because if not, I don't see why I or anyone else has to be bound by that. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:09, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::...I'm gonna go with, if staff tells you something and you decide to flout it, it won't turn out very happily for you, regardless of whether there is a strict rule... (At best, I will say that if you're that dubious about something, take it up the chain.)<br />
:::Protip, though: if you're familiar enough with Bulbapedia (and, [[Template:Welcome|ideally]], it ''shouldn't'' really take much "familiarity"), you can answer your own question. And maybe learn a thing or two else in the process. ;) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:16, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I am under the belief that every single rule should at the very least be documented in an official list, that way people can be directed to it if they're confused so they know it's not just something that is simply preferred by certain higher-ups. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:18, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::...Your issue essentially comes down to "I don't trust staff to not be going on a power trip." So I'll tell you what. If you can't trust that someone on staff is telling you something that, for whatever reason, you really do have to follow, then take it up the chain. Maybe they know something written out to point you to, maybe not. But if for whatever reason you can't "trust" something, there are easy enough recourses. (Protip: if you don't want to do it in the open, you can even use PMs on the forums.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:29, 9 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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{{indent}}New comments going at the bottom of a discussion ''is'' written in the talk page policy, [[Bulbapedia:Talk page policy#Editing in sections|under editing in sections]]. As for why, because people are going to look for new comments at the bottom of the conversation, not in the middle.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:36, 10 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Since it's been spoiled =P , I'll leave off with: I'd very earnestly appreciate if you'd take a read through the whole page. If this is one thing you've missed, there may well be other things you can learn. (...Not to mention, if you won't trust if someone just tells you something else down the line, it'd be better for you to just learn for yourself sooner rather than later.) In a similar vein, if you find yourself wondering about {{cat|Bulbapedia policies}}, try to remember that you can check that and other pages we have. Thanks! [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:38, 10 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== In-game trade ==<br />
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I agree about the revert on my change as it was not a future proof way to do it.<br />
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I've added a discussion on the page for that subject and hope it goes in the direction of your comment.<br />
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I'd appreciate to have your feedback whether you agree on the idea or not.<br />
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(I'm still not sure if there's PM so I post this here. Sorry if I goofed up)<br />
[[User:Zanguu|Zanguu]] ([[User talk:Zanguu|talk]]) 16:52, 12 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Re: No article on Aura used by Totem Pokemon/ Ultra Beasts ==<br />
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Hello, I tried to search for articles describing the usage of the aura used by [[Totem Pokémon]] and [[Ultra Beasts]]. There is no article covering this topic. Could I please have your permission on making this page?[[User:Elite4Alola|&#91;&#91;Elite4Alola&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Elite4Alola|talk]]) 08:23, 18 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Mechanically, in the games, aura is pretty simple. Lore-wise, there's a bit more, but still, I don't know. The anime is the thing I really don't know. If you'd like to create a user page so we can see how much and what kind of content there might be, then we can make a better decision about whether it warrants its own page or what. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:38, 18 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I think I'll get back to you on this. I'll will go and do some research first[[User:Elite4Alola|&#91;&#91;Elite4Alola&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Elite4Alola|talk]]) 01:45, 20 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Changes to game location sections ==<br />
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Why should we have one format that's consistent for gift Pokemon, another that's consistent for wild Pokemon, and a whole bunch of locations that don't use any consistent format when we can have one format that's consistent for all locations? <br><br />
On Voltorb's page, why are you using the Frontier Brain template to link to the Power Plant? I don't think the Power Plant is a Frontier Brain. <br><br />
On Golbat's page, why is "Blackthorn City side" in parentheses but "interior" is not? <br><br />
[[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:19, 10 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:"Consistency" is not god. Putting big lines of text in parentheses just looks bad. The parentheticals are only meant to be short&mdash;that's what they've been for a long time, and trades and stuff have used their own format for a long time, and it's been just fine. The short parentheticals do what they need to just fine, they don't need to be twisted to take on more.<br />
:If {{template|FB}} creates an appropriate link, I don't think it's a huge problem.<br />
:"Interior" doesn't need parentheses. It's a simple label that reads very fine without them, the kind of compound you could easily find in normal English text. A compound description like "Blackthorn City side" does not work like that, though. I understand the discrepancy...I considered maybe just using "north" instead or something&mdash;but I didn't want to be more vague (and I guess if ''you've'' been trying to add "actual locations" and all, you wouldn't like that option either) so I figured it'd just have to be what worked. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:30, 10 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::So...very short additional details (like "interior") aren't in parentheses, and very long details (like "received from Professor Sycamore in Lumiose City after defeating him") aren't in parentheses, either? I never thought putting lots of text in parentheses looked bad. Am I the only one who thinks that? Also doesn't using the <nowiki>{{FB</nowiki> template to link to the Power Plant count as a lazy template? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 21:50, 10 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't think those cases are in such a juxtaposable context as that suggests, but you've essentially stated those cases correctly.<br />
:::You question whether you're the only one who doesn't have a problem with lots of text in parentheses. I don't know the answer really, but to turn it in a different direction, it may be fair to say that you may be the only one who has a problem with the outstanding format for the trades and such.<br />
:::You're putting that last question like I should know about it or know how to react or whatever... Is there a specific definition for "lazy template", or......? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:17, 10 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I guess you can say that about me. As for the "lazy templates", this is what I found on the List of Link Templates page: <br />
::::"Although link templates are encouraged in day-to-day usage, it is asked that they are only used for the intended purpose. Any use otherwise may be considered a "laziness template". For example, consider writing <code><nowiki>[[Pokémon Trainer]]</nowiki></code> instead of <code><nowiki>{{g|Trainer}}</nowiki></code>. Usage of laziness templates will be reverted, and offenders will be warned."<br />
::::[[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 23:53, 10 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::It seems FB may be one we specifically let slide. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:16, 11 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Okay. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:39, 11 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Event Pokemon ==<br />
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Hello again. My line on the page for [[Event Pokémon]] said that '''most''' Event Pokemon are mythical but not all. You removed it because not all event Pokemon are Mythical. I was aware of that and I even gave an example in my line and even then, about 85% of Event Pokemon are Mythical. So, why was it removed again? Just curious. Thanks '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 23:13, 14 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I didn't remove it because "not all" are Mythical. I removed it because not "most" are even Mythical. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:18, 14 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::But the big majority of them are. Something about Mythical Pokemon should be added. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 23:44, 14 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I don't think so. There are all sorts of distributions for regular old Pokemon. I would be quite surprised if Mythicals make close to the 85% you think. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:15, 15 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::The only Pokemon that aren't Mythical are Lugia and Ho-Oh in Gen 3, the two Vivillon patterns, cap Pikachu and Dusk Lycanroc. That's 5 out of 22 (There's 17 Mythicals that are event only) so about 77% Event Pokemon are Mythical to be precise. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 09:04, 15 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::That's very incorrect... For example: [[Eevee (Pokémon)#In events]]. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:37, 15 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I was mainly talking about Event-Exclusive Pokemon, since they're the ones mentioned on the page. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 12:52, 15 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::In that case, you've been using completely the wrong words...<br />
:::::::Mythical Pokemon ''would'' be worth mentioning so long as it's in the appropriate place and using unambiguous language. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:42, 15 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Ah. Apologies if I was using the wrong words. I'll add a bit about them. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 14:32, 15 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Type page discussion ==<br />
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I already [[User talk:Glik/Archive July 2015-May 2018|discussed this]] with glik. Is there anything else you want to tell me? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 03:42, 17 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:You practically neutered the sections you edited. I said it would be better to start a discussion. That way there's something everyone can easily see if they wonder in the future. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:38, 17 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I already started at least 3 discussions. One here, one on glik's talk page, and one on Normal (type)'s talk page. What else do you want me to discuss? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 15:56, 17 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Oh, I didn't know there was anything on the talk page. I've given a response. I may have lost track of it before or something, I don't know. Sorry. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:55, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Signature ==<br />
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Is my signature ok?[[User:Форс файре|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''Ф'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">орс</span>]][[User talk:Форс файре|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''Ф'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">айре</span>]] 18:22, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, it's good. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:36, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Creating Japanese voice actor articles ==<br />
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Hey! After remembering [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:GrammarFreak01/Archive_1#Creating_pages your response] to my creation of the [[Ash's Pikachu (M20)]] article, I've decided to come to you about creating new pages. I'm thinking of creating a couple of pages or so on Japanese voice actors, starting with [[Haruka Tomatsu]]. Is that okay? Is there an article creation procedure that I need to follow? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 19:32, 25 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:The requirements for VA pages are described at [[Bulbapedia:Project VA]]. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:30, 26 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Okay, thank you for the heads-up! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:41, 26 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Cynthia being Verity's mother ==<br />
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I understand that there are conflicting sources about this whole matter, and that is why I think you should perhaps work to debunk the source I just mentioned first before we all move forward. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:39, 26 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Let me ask: let's just suppose that all we could ever have would be these two conflicting pieces of "evidence": what would you think would be best for Bulbapedia to do? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:52, 26 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Discuss it and investigate which source holds more veracity? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:01, 26 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::That seems like it's ultimately down to pretty much opinion... It can be very easy for people to be loud and determined in their positions. I don't think your solution is a strong solution. But for now I will take the simple route and give you a bit of reasoning in the vein of your desired approach.<br />
:::The director's word is currently verifiable, whereas the other source is only secondhand information. Perhaps you have heard the maxim, "Trust but verify"? I cannot, personally, tell you anything reliable about the claim that Cynthia is Verity's mother, but I can answer anything you want to ask about the director's refutation of that theory. If information cannot be independently evaluated by anyone with the desire/ability (and therefore argued with nuance in its own right), then it's a decidedly imperfect source. Sometimes that's all we have. That's not the case here, though. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:31, 26 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Mallow Tsareena Sweet Scent ==<br />
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Hi. So in SM082 Mallow's Tsareena does something that some would describe as Sweet Scent, as it has a similar appearance and effect to how the move was used in its pre-evolved forms. PlayerKing95 has removed it because we don't have enough proof, despite the evidence pointing towards it. I, as well as another user, has reached out to him to discuss it. It has been about a week now and he has ignored multiple messages to resolve this issue, and it is making me think that he will continue to ignore messages because it means the page can't be changed. Could I get some help with this? Thank you for your time.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 18:11, 1 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I saw you've asked ForceFire too and gotten a response. I wasn't immediately sure how it fits in our policy, and I still haven't checked the episode or anything, but since ForceFire has responded I'll leave it to him now. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:58, 4 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Type pages again ==<br />
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Is there anything you still want to talk about? Can I start editing all the types now? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:01, 4 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thank you for asking. And I'm very sorry I haven't devoted time to it (once again) for so long.<br />
:Anyway, I've responded to the last comment and I think you can make edits if you try to follow the examples on [[Talk:Normal (type)]], unless you yourself have other pressing questions. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:58, 4 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Stat averages of types ==<br />
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How did you calculate the stat averages of each type? You said poison had the lowest average speed, but the Bulbapedia articles say a few other types (such as rock) have even lower speed. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 19:43, 9 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I used the averages from each type page. Apparently I made a surprising typo with Poison's speed; I typed 30 instead of 80 (I couldn't say how, 3 and 8 aren't close, possibly I just misread it or something). Rock is right. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:31, 9 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== questions about hidden items in games ==<br />
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if an item is like inside a rock would i describe it as 'in the rock' or 'on the rock'? Also if you get an item from an npc should i use 'obtain' or 'receive'? {{unsigned|EternalDragonX}}<br />
:It's not like you pick up the rock or break it or anything special. The only thing that makes sense is "on". [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:12, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::ok 'on' it is. also u didnt answer my second question if someone gives u an item do we use 'receive' or 'obtain'? - [[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 19:30, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Usually it's not necessary at all. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:09, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::u mean neither is necessary? so in the [[Pallet Town]] items section where all the items begin with "obtained from.." i should delete the "obtained" and just leave it "from x"? - [[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 06:56, 26 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::There are some cases, like if it's a ''reward'', where I might feel like specifying that, but even more specific things like probably aren't necessary. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:39, 26 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== repeated links in item lists ==<br />
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are they bad or good? - [[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 21:39, 23 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:IMO it's usually a little better than making someone look for the first link in the box when they're reading a specific line. And it's how I always saw them so IMO it's fine. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:12, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::But shouldn't we still avoid deliberately adding new ones? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:38, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I personally am very likely to link every line myself. There have definitely been pages where I had a problem like, "Ugh, Beauty's not linked, alright which random item referenced some Beauty or other in this whole list..." [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:03, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Well, I guess we both have different viewpoints on this subject, and I can definitely understand your viewpoint. I just personally don't prefer the same link popping up again and again. Let's just leave the whole thing be. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:15, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::allrightey finnish u heard what the man said i will be linking every single damn link i see in every single item list i can find. :) - [[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 19:33, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I hope you also noticed my reply. Please don't go overboard. And '''please''', start using big capital letters! It's bothering me! --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:54, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::FYI I think there can be a few links that would be kind of useless. Like, say, caught Pokemon, that would probably be pointless to link repeatedly. Useful links are key, unnecessary ones just get in the way. If I had to try to classify it, that might mean mainly tangible things. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:09, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== X-type vs. X type ==<br />
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I was under the impression that the word "Pokémon" or "move" or whatever had to actually ''be'' there in order for it to be "X-type" instead of "X type". I even said so to {{user|GrammarFreak01}} when they asked me about it on my talk page. Just watch the {{series|Sun & Moon}} Pokédex entries. They seem to be agreeing with me, since in them, it's always "<Pokémon>, the <category name> Pokémon. A(n) X type". The subtitles have confirmed that it's "X type", not "X-type". --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:37, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:It seems even the games have some rare examples of this, like [[Acerola]], ''"And your Rotom is a Ghost type, too!"''. I think this is poorly thought out and fundamentally wrong, but I will leave it there and I won't argue with it beyond that. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:03, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks. So I take that I can undo your undoings on the memory articles? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:15, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Done. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:09, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:50, 26 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Move policy ==<br />
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While I understand what you are trying to accomplish with this new rule, I honestly see the forbiddence of using one's own head while determining unnamed moves as absurd.<br><br />
First off: you removed {{m|Psycho Cut}} and {{m|Air Slash}}, when they '''fit''' one of the categories you named. Psycho Cut has been used in the Sun & Moon series before, with identical animation, and so has Air Slash, even to the point where it was used in the '''very same episode''', in case the comparison couldn't be easier!<br><br />
Second: why is the use of common sense apparently forbidden in this issue? Like, what else could Necrozma's laser-like move '''be''' than its own signature move {{m|Prismatic Laser}}? Why can't [[Mallow's Tsareena]]'s {{m|Sweet Scent}} be confirmed as such, when we've seen it being used in an '''identical way''' by its two pre-evolutions?<br><br />
Third: we rely '''way''' too much on subtitles when it comes to identifying unnamed moves. I'm telling you, some of these "confirmations" should be taken with a '''serious''' grain of salt. For example, why does Litten/Torracat know so many different slashing/scratching moves? Shouldn't we just go with the move that's actually named out loud? In some cases, these "confirmations" haven't even come in episodes where the move is used for the first time, like [[Nebby]]'s crying being suddenly classified as "{{m|Supersonic}}", which should be an even further indication that the subtitles aren't as reliable as some want to believe. And what about the cases when the subtitles fail to recognize something what is undoubtedly a move '''as''' a specific move? What then? What about [[Lusamine]]'s {{p|Salazzle}}'s attack from [[SM053]], which could easily be {{m|Sludge Wave}}? Why wasn't [[Kiawe's Marowak]]'s {{m|Bonemerang}} named in its debut episode, despite clearly being used in it (further evidence for the unreliability of subtitles), with the subtitlers rather labeling {{m|Headbutt}} as a move, although it has never been commanded to to be used out loud (thus indicating that it was just a generic headbutt and not a move), while all of Marowak's other moves have, which, based on the fact that anime has been sticking to the "only four moves at a time" policy from the games for a good while already, as evidenced by, say [[Ash's Pikachu]]? So, in short, I consider that subtitles '''can''' be used as '''help''' while identifying unnamed moves, but they shouldn't be trusted blindly. And if something that resembles a move is used without it being named by the dialogue '''or''' the subtitles, it should '''seriously''' be discussed and determined.<br><br />
I honestly feel that Bulbapedia is actively hurting itself removing all this information. Please. Try to understand my points. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:49, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I totally agree with [[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] statement, especially in the upcoming episode of Poipole World that is going even more '''serious''' discussion and debate, wheather that location is [[Ultra Megalopolis]] or another unknown location that only appears in the anime-exclusive. So many questions to answers. It just really don't know, where it going to end. [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 06:04, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::FinnishPokéFan92: you say that Psycho Cut and Air Slash fit a category I named. In my last message on your talk page I left two bullet points on your page in a "simple" criteria for the policy; can you please quote the one that you say fits?<br />
::I'm going to put off touching the rest until that is answered. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:45, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Questions about files ==<br />
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How do I change files on Bulbapedia? Am I allowed to change this file if it looks different in my copy of Emerald? <br>[[File:Hoenn Route 132 RSE.png|80px]]<br>[[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 03:53, 13 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:That's an RSE map. If it's different in Emerald, it may still be accurate for R/S, so it may not be right to upload over it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:44, 14 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::What's the answer to my first question? How do I know if it's accurate for RS, and what do I do after I find out? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:00, 14 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::How is it different in Emerald? Is it possible for you to upload an image to show what is different?--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:18, 14 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::How do I change files on Bulbapedia? Do you want me to upload it directly to Bulbapedia or upload it to Imgur and link to it here? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:39, 14 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Bulbapedia files are on the Archives. If you're not certain about something, using a simple image hoster temporarily is probably best. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:46, 14 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::[https://i.imgur.com/VPstLqb.png the image] So far, the only difference I've noticed is the arrangement of the current tiles leading from the east end to Fisherman Ronald. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 00:31, 16 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Sorry for being late, I got busy a bit and forgot.<br />
:::::::Is that your own image? I think Emerald ''is'' different, but I do not think that is an accurate image from Emerald. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:46, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::How do I make sure that image is accurate? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:41, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Are you asking how to check it? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:10, 23 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Yes. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:35, 23 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::Well...I mean, does that mean you didn't take the image yourself? (If you did it should be "accurate".) If not, you can only compare the currents very closely. It may help to blow up your image so you can see the detail better. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:21, 23 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::I didn't take it myself. I don't know if it's accurate; I only know that it's ''more accurate'' than the current (yes pun intended) one on Bulbapedia. How can I take a screenshot myself? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:09, 23 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::There's one small area that's different between the images, and that difference isn't accurate to either game as I know them, so I'm not sure it's more accurate. But anyway...<br />
:::::::::::::Emulators usually have ways to take screenshots I think, but if that's not what you're using, you usually need a capture card. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:16, 23 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::::Can I do anything if I have neither an emulator nor a capture card? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:32, 23 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::::I don't think so? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:44, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== item split proposal ==<br />
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in this items section: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Hoenn_Route_104#Items the hidden items for gen 3 and gen 6 are put together because theyre the same items, but i want to propose that its better to split them up. for gen 6 the description would remain the same but for gen 3 i would put a more specific description like "three squares east of fisherman" or something so it would be easier to find them. what do you think? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 08:58, 20 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:FWIW it is possible to be equally specific for Gen VI. But...I was of the same mind before. It was decided that it's better to just be generic and keep to one entry if possible. (I have a secret desire to some day just make versions of the game maps with all items explicitly labeled including marking hidden items.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:46, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::curious how u would be specific for gen 6 since u might hold the direction key a bit too long or short and be off by a bit from the location. also okay i will just leave the items generic the way they are --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 06:56, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::The descriptors shouldn't be overly specific (like three squares to the left). "Holding the direction key for too long" is not the fault of the description, that's on the player.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 08:20, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::u mean they shouldnt be overly specific for non hidden items right? For hidden items I feel like they should be.. cuz thats what ive been doing for all my hidden item edits so far lol --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 08:53, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::If you can hold the key too long in ORAS/XY, you can do the same in any previous games. Gen VII is the only time where you've had NO discrete steps.<br />
:::::I don't care if directions for hidden items are specific where they're the same in any games they appear in. If they would be different (and therefore require different entries or other complications), they should just be generic. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:26, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::i understand that a description for a hidden item should be generic if the item appears in multiple games to avoid different entries. i wanna know how you would make a specific description in oras/xy. would you just say like "three steps east of fisherman"? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 13:01, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::What do you mean how? If the item is located 3 steps east of a fisherman, then "three steps east of fisherman" would be accurate. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:16, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::hmm i dont know, i just feel like pre gen 6 its very clearly defined what a step is cuz you would just press a direction key once and you would always be on a certain square. in gen 6 i can tap the direction key gently and i go a tiny distance or i may accidentally hold it for a millisecond longer and go a further distance. my point is that i dont really agree about your point of "if you hold it too long in gen 6, you can in the previous games" --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:40, 22 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::I think you must be confusing Gen VI and VII. I would suggest getting out XY/ORAS and trying to move a step. It is not hard. The movement grid was not removed until Gen VII (though they did let you "break" it in XYORAS). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:10, 23 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::EternalDragon, "pressing the directional button for too long" is not our problem. It's not the fault of the wiki. That's the fault of the player. We cannot control how "long" a player presses a button. It's simply not an issue.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:59, 23 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Anime moves SM088==<br />
Hey, I wanted to ask about a couple of moves and whether you think they can identified and be added to their respective articles.<br />
* Flash Cannon (used by Solgaleo)<br />
* Moonblast (used by Lunala)<br />
* Air Slash (used by Lunala)<br />
* Prismatic Laser (used by Necrozma)<br />
I think the former two can be identified, because of unique animation. They both look identical to how they have always appeared in the past; Flash Cannon is a silver beam of energy and Moonblast is a pink orb of energy while the moon is shown in the background. Additionally, Flash Cannon and Moonblast have already been used in the Sun & Moon series (by Sophocles's Metang and Lusamine's Clefable). Solgaleo and Lunala's attacks matched the appearance of their respective moves.<br />
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Air Slash has been used by Gladion's Silvally. Lunala's attack looked identical to this one.<br />
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While Prismatic Laser has not appeared yet in the anime, it looks like the move's appearance in the games. I decided to include this one, because of the recent discussion on Sunsteel Strike, which you approved because it matched its game animation.<br />
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So, what do you think? [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 16:24, 23 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Relatively simple energy beams are always iffy to me. But you do say Flash Cannon's been seen before; would you be able to tell me what episodes and an episode where it's explicitly identified/called?<br />
:I like the moon element for Moonblast, that seems like a solid differentiator. Would you also be able to tell me somewhere it's been explicitly ID'd just so there's one more bit of evidence?<br />
:Air Slash, I'm really not sure. If it's not unique enough to be added to the whitelist in its own right, then I worry about how any change would play out considering what happened with {{m|Psycho Cut}} for [[SM053]] previously. I and/or we (meaning everyone who usually adds moves and gave it a pass) need to figure out why that sort of error was made and how to avoid anything similar if the rules will change.<br />
:Sunsteel Strike (FWIW) wasn't approved just because it matched its animation, but because that animation was also quite distinct from any other move.<br />
:Anyway, I'll take a good look at the moves and see what I think, and see if the rest of staff has any input. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:44, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Flash Cannon was used and called in SM086 (near the end of the episode against Team Rocket) and in SM088 (around the 9-minute mark against Necrozma). Moonblast was used in SM053, also near the end of the episode. This one was identified by the dub's closed captions. [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 14:55, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Silvally was ordered to use Air Slash in the same episode where Lunala used it. The animation and colors are identical, so I'd consider it confirmed. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:04, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Battle Frontier articles ==<br />
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May I know why you deleted the articles on the Battle Frontier facilities which were created by {{u|TehPerson}}? The reason you provided on your edit summary makes zero amount of sense considering way back in '''2013''' {{u|SnorlaxMonster}} approved the split. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 14:43, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Immediately apparent here is a really big assumption on your part.<br />
:Namely: that I know what you are referring to when you say SM approved it in 2013.<br />
:Perhaps you could help by pointing to where that was? (In the future as well, if you can, essentially, "source" your comments with links or something, that can help a lot if someone else doesn't know what you're referring to (which is probably not a good assumption to make usually).) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:53, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Is it so hard to go to the talk page and search for a comment SM left in 2013? Apparently so. [[Talk:Battle Frontier (Generation III)#Splitting suggestion|Here you have it]]. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 14:57, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I'm not going to reward that attitude by doing work for you... Either I can spend who-knows-how-long to look for something you know and I don't every time you do anything like this, or I can try to prompt you to remember to provide these answers yourself sooner rather than later. It shouldn't be a horrible courtesy I'm asking. If you wish to respond to my request, I will be happy to respond further, otherwise, you'll have to be satisfied with what you can make from this. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:03, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::What are you even talking about now? I responded to your request and provided a link. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 15:07, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Yeah. I realized that just posting. I apologize, I seem to have missed the link at the end of your message. I think when I saw that my mind thought it was a signature. (Again...the abrasive attitude didn't help anything either, though.)<br />
:::::So, it shouldn't really be hard to imagine, but I did not read that part of the talk page when I checked to see if the split that TehPerson had performed was approved. (I don't really understand why you might think I would have seen it and ignored it, certainly without explicitly acknowledging it.)<br />
:::::For what it's worth, the Generation IV pages do not seem to have been approved. Also, SnorlaxMonster's message said "'''we''' can make progress", which does not necessarily mean "proceed entirely at your own discretion". Beyond which, 5 years is a long time. If TehPerson knew about that message, it still would have been very reasonable to ask someone on {{bp|staff}} directly (perhaps even SnorlaxMonster himself) just to check, even referencing SnorlaxMonster's old comment. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:17, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::So you're essentially saying that you, by clicking on a button, undid all the hard work TehPerson put on creating those pages because you failed to read the talk page? Is that correct?<br />
::::::What SM really said in that comment is that the split hadn't been performed yet because '''we''' didn't have all the necessary pages ready. '''We''' made progress when TehPerson went and created those pages.<br />
::::::Anyway, are you going to undo your own edits now? At least the Generation III pages have been approved. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 15:33, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I read the talk page. Sorry if I'm not perfect. That's why all you beautiful people are here to help. (Though I'd appreciate it a bit more if it was rendered with less hostility. =P )<br />
:::::::I'm not going to undo anything right now. There's no great rush.<br />
:::::::I'm just going to wait until I know for sure what our decision is rather than presume. Patience. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:46, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Professor Willow special research ==<br />
Hi, I followed the pre-existing format for "A Mythical Discovery" which was omitting the very last sentence of each phase and used bullet points for items. Should you want to reintroduce correct phrasing, you may find video reference for the following researches:<br />
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEjrqrBi1iM GO Fest 2018]<br />
*[https://youtu.be/_WsWgCIaixk Yokosuka]<br />
Also you removed "Special Research" from "A Mythical Discovery" and "A Ripple in Time" but not from "Go FEST 2018" and "Pokémon GO Safari Zone in YOKOSUKA", was this intended? [[User:JaxomNC|JaxomNC]] ([[User talk:JaxomNC|talk]]) 03:57, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:There is no format to "follow" for quotes except to represent as precisely as possible what a character's dialogue actually shows. We don't want to invent anything where there is no need, we want to document the game faithfully. (And Willow's dialogue for the Mythical Discovery steps did not have any "last sentence" with all the tasks, it did actually list the tasks on their own lines (with no bullet points).)<br />
:Thanks for the links. Like I said, I deferred any substantial edits to the two variants until I had seen them myself (because, as I said, they should reflect as precisely as possible what the game shows). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:35, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Notability ==<br />
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Hello! I saw that you undid a revision I made on [[Trainers' School (Alola)]] due to notability. I'm still new here and figuring out the conventions, and I couldn't find a solid answer on the [[Bulbapedia:Notability requirements]] page. What typically makes something not notable? Was there anything specific about that change that I should avoid doing in the future? Thank you! [[User:Butterfreeism|<span style="color:#625B7C">'''–Bu<span style="color:#C05751">tt<span style="color:#5A93AE">erfr</span>ee</span>ism'''</span>]] 01:27, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I was mostly using notable as a common word rather than in the specific sense on the page you linked. It's just kind of pointless to note that [whatever] is only found in "this" area. Either the person is already there and will find the Pokemon if they want to, or they're not (or they may leave and forget) and if they want to find that Pokemon there's a very convenient species page where they will be well able to find a location where they can look for it, regardless of whether there's one place or more. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:06, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Understood! Thanks for the insight! :) [[User:Butterfreeism|<span style="color:#625B7C">'''–Bu<span style="color:#C05751">tt<span style="color:#5A93AE">erfr</span>ee</span>ism'''</span>]] 06:57, 10 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Oluolu ==<br />
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The [[SM091|newest episode of the anime]] confirms that exclusive Z-Moves need specific moves as their basis in the anime too. Should this count as a sign that [[Oluolu]]'s {{p|Snorlax}} knows {{m|Giga Impact}} to perform {{m|Pulverizing Pancake}}, despite it never having been seen using Giga Impact? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:48, 8 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I'll see if the rest of staff have any qualms about it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:42, 8 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks. I'll be waiting.<br />
::Oh, and I also remembered: doesn't this also mean that [[Nebby]] learned {{m|Sunsteel Strike}} immediately after evolving in [[SM052]], given how it was able to perform {{m|Searing Sunraze Smash}} in the same episode? And, by extension, shouldn't that be proof that the move Nebby used in [[SM053]] wasn't just "a glowing headbutt"? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:24, 8 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::No... Even supposing Nebby knew Sunsteel Strike, there's no reason to assume that's what it was doing. There are very unique parts of Sunsteel Strike that were not at all seen there; that's a huge leap of logic. Frankly, there's no reason to assume Nebby was using any move, as opposed to just building up power and smashing through the rock. Not everything HAS to be a move. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:31, 8 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Your scepticism is way too over the top... --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:43, 8 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I don't exactly want to "shout", but I'm honestly a little astounded if you don't understand this huge point... '''"There are very unique parts of Sunsteel Strike that were not at all seen"'''. That's not overly skeptical, that's ''only'' reasonable. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:56, 8 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Oh, I'm sorry (like, not sarcastic or anything), in the midst of my reaction above, I did forget to mention... Yes, it's okay to say that a Pokemon knows the base move if it uses an exclusive Z-Move. (It doesn't count as a use of the base move in and of itself, though. For that it'd have to be identifiable by the same criteria as any anime move.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:52, 8 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Undoing edits ==<br />
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Regarding the edit you [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_Generations&diff=2858945&oldid=2858907 undid] on the [[Pokémon Generations]] page.<br />
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Why?<br />
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Maybe Bulbapedia doesn't make it a priority to use dashes the way style guides recommend, and maybe we're not going to make a [[wp:MOS:DASH|policy]] to "enforce" proper usage. But what reason is there to enforce it in the opposite direction? Where's the Bulbapedia policy on that? Just because an edit didn't need to be done, doesn't mean it needs to be ''un''done.<br />
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I don't know if Bulbapedia has an explicitly-stated equivalent policy, but Wikipedia has certain guidelines with regards to undoing people's edits. Per [[wp:WP:REVERT#Before reverting|WP:REVERT]]:<br />
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''"Consider carefully before reverting, as it rejects the contributions of another editor. […] In the edit summary or on the talk page, succinctly explain why the change you are reverting was a bad idea or why reverting it is a better idea."''<br />
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"We don't normally bother with that" isn't good enough. Why is undoing it better than leaving it alone? How is the article improved by your reversion? — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 18:54, 10 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I guess I'm just responding to your logic. You said/are saying that endash is the "right" thing to use, meaning it should always be used. I don't think there's actually a passive/lazy middle ground like you're suggesting.<br />
:And IMO it's really not worth making anyone type out "ndash" or copy the right symbol. Not when I'm sure most people wouldn't even notice any difference just reading either version, or have ''any'' idea that it's a "thing" (meaning there'd just have to be other people watching out for it all the time&mdash;again, not worth it). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:58, 10 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::What you're saying is, in your opinion, it wasn't worth it to make the edit. That was already established. That doesn't explain why it's worth it to undo. [[wp:WP:DONTREVERT|Don't revert edits just because they're not a significant improvement.]] —&nbsp;[[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 04:07, 11 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::We are not Wikipedia. We have our rules, and they have there's. The point TiddlyWinks is trying to make is that you didn't have to make the edit in the first place. It was unnecessary, that's why it was reverted.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:58, 11 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I would add, it's "worth" undoing because a mix of styles is not "good" either. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:21, 11 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::You guys aren't very good at clicking links, are you?<br />
:::::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Revert_only_when_necessary#Bad_reasons_to_revert<br />
:::::''"Do not revert an edit because that edit is unnecessary"''<br />
:::::I don't know how it could possibly be any clearer. Just because an editor isn't following ''your'' agenda, doesn't mean it's your responsibility to stamp them out. This is a wiki. It's collaborative.<br />
:::::And as far as the "mix of styles" argument, there are two reasons why that's nonsense. First, because "most people wouldn't even notice any difference just reading either version," as ''you'' said. No reader would ever see that dash and think, "That needs to be changed to a hyphen," yet you made that change anyway. And second, why should we be complacent about this punctuation issue but not others? Even if "most people" don't know or care about the difference between ''its'' and ''it's'', we still want our articles to look like they're written by people who do, which is why we don't reintroduce errors after people fix them. —&nbsp;[[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 14:55, 11 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::News flash: we are not beholden to Wikipedia. (Which ForceFire already pointed out.)<br />
:::::For the rest: refer again to my original explanation of why it's ''not worth'' it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:22, 11 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Not-up-to-standards Messages- SM075 - SM088 ==<br />
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Hi Tiddlywinks,<br />
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I am messaging you in regards to the not up to standards messages on the sm075 through to sm088 episode plot pages. They were placed on the respective pages by GrammarFreak01 several weeks ago, and have yet to be rectified. I had earlier attempted to edit the sm075 plot, but the not up to standards message was reinstated by GrammarFreak01. I don't feel the current alerts are necessary to begin with as most of the pages were edited in response to FinnishPokeFan92's concerns, but I want the best result. As the user suggested, and because he is busy, could you or ForceFire look over those pages and make the necessary changes to delete the alerts? [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 23:58, 12 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:Let me clarify that the tags are up there because there are some leftover errors that were most likely missed during the cleanup process. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:06, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Version Exclusive as Trivia ==<br />
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I've seen that you deleted my added trivia fact on the Pokémon Blue Japanese version page. I do agree that this fact may not be trivia-worthy, however on the Pokémon Yellow page, there is an exact same trivia fact on Farfetch'd. Perhaps it would benefit consistency to delete the trivia-fact from that page too then? <br />
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''Out of all the [[core series]] [[Generation I]] games, this is the only one where {{p|Jynx}} can be caught in the wild; in the Japanese {{2v2|Red|Green}} as well as in the {{game|Red and Blue|s|Western Red and Blue}}, this Pokémon is only available by means of an [[in-game trade]]. In {{game|Yellow}} Jynx is unobtainable altogether.''<br />
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I think the 'uniqueness' in this regard is that Jynx cannot be caught in the wild in ANY International version of the games and Farfetch'd cannot be caught in ANY Japanese version. Not sure whether later games have this kind of trade-only Pokémon across all core games within one generation. Obviously it's all not that important, but the wiki is at a state right now where only small improvements are necessary, so we got the time to nitpick. {{unsigned|Malzagath}}<br />
:Feel free to remove it.<br />
:FWIW, if I weren't tired I might be able to follow my own train of thought all the way through on these and give more explanation or ''possibly'' change my mind a bit somehow...but here we are for now. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:35, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== "No exclusions" (Meltan thing) ==<br />
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[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Meltan_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=2882460&oldid=2882156 How is it excluding anything?] I fail to see how it's different compared to similar trivia for starters, legendaries, and "of all [insert type here] Pokemon." [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:14, 19 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I misspoke. The only mosts/leasts that should exist should be overall and for types. That's what I meant to get at (so those things you mentioned shouldn't be on pages).<br />
:"No exclusions" is just really easy to say and it's the first thing I think of (especially as it was the first thing that really started bugging me about the stat trivia). I don't think I've had to deal with it recently so...I guess I just didn't think it through. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:35, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== LGPE Stats template ==<br />
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Are there any actual problems on the merits with the [[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:SadisticMystic/LGPEStats]] template? Instead of having a note under the statboxes that it doesn't compute LGPE max stats correctly, I figured it might be worth computing stats under the LGPE formula correctly. [[User:SadisticMystic|SadisticMystic]] ([[User talk:SadisticMystic|talk]]) 23:52, 23 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I haven't evaluated it. But templates can be done in ill-advised ways. (We have done that and had to correct things as Bulbapedia grew. And we're still not perfect.) So we can't just have people throwing anything together and spreading it everywhere. It's great if you want to make a template, you just need to ask for it to be approved before you can use it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:07, 24 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Fossil Pages ==<br />
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Hiya, any developed thoughts on splitting the Fossil pages? It'd also help lessen the chance of accidental redirects (e.g. [[Dome Fossil]] leads to [[Dome and Helix Fossils]]). Also, I think the Berry page template could use a similar update (see my suggestion at [[User talk:Force Fire#Berry Template update]]). Lemme know your thoughts. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 01:06, 1 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:They are mainspaced. I would ask you to double-check the previous paired pages (like by checking their history since you created the split pages) for anything that was updated that didn't make it to the new pages.<br />
:(I think you also asked about unneeded pages in your userspace. I'll deal with those. But I hope you're also currently remembering the proper way to mainspace pages (not just copy/pasting content, that is).) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:26, 2 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks! And yup, I'll see to it that doesn't happen again. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 16:49, 2 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Long overdue, but I remembered your userpages today: done. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:16, 5 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Master Trainer movesets ==<br />
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I don't think that Master Trainer movesets need to be put on location pages. The "Master Trainer" link under each Trainer's name will lead to the article where the movesets are listed anyway. What you're suggesting is nothing more than waste of space in my opinion. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:40, 19 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:We thought the movesets were important enough to be needed on their page. It doesn't make any sense that we would skip the same movesets on their location pages then. If I expect movesets anywhere, it's on the locations really; my original opinion was that the movesets belonged on the location pages and, on the master trainer page, people could just follow links to those pages to find the movesets instead of wasting space ''there''. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:20, 19 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Well, too bad for you, because the movesets are listed there now, and it's honestly saving space on location pages. Those Trainers aren't notable enough to deserve moveset templates on location pages. Besides, there's over a hundred of them. It simply isn't worth the effort. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:37, 19 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::The list was made with the intention of not needing to bring them up in the location pages. Because there are many Master Trainers that can be found in any given location, and they are relatively minor characters compared to, say, {{ga|Trace}} or the [[Elite Four]], I believe it would be better for users to refer to the Master Trainer page for quick reference. - [[User:Chosen|<span style="color:#EE99AC">Chosen</span>]] <span style="color:#6890F0">of</span> [[User talk:Chosen|<span style="color:#F8D030">Mana</span>]] 16:53, 19 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I do not think it is at all logical for us to say, we need more than just a bare bones party listing on the Master Trainer page, but for locations that's totally fine. I could be open to some alternate solution, but it does not make sense to me to treat them differently only on locating pages. Either both places only need the party listing, or both places need something more. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:03, 19 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Chosen was the one who made the Master Trainer list, and he has given his judgement on this matter. Please accept it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:46, 20 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I'll start by apologizing. There are some more or less specific circumstances when I leave an edit summary blank (compared to my normal habit of writing something no matter the edit); this can often be some combination of lack of time/energy, or my thoughts being in tones I don't really want to write, and/or just feeling like there's too much to say. Normally I figure it'll turn out more or less alright. And...honestly, with a discussion already going here (and you having given no response here at the time), I really thought you'd find a moment to talk a bit here before things went altogether too far. But it was pointed out to me that my empty edit summaries probably didn't help anything, ultimately resulting in the mess now in Route 4's history. After reflecting, I have to agree that I can do better; in the future, I will. (I'm going to attempt to leave my comment on your behavior at: I hope you realize there's some reflecting you can do too.)<br />
::::::On to the issue itself!<br />
::::::You're claiming that as the creator of the page, Chosen should have all say over how it (or anything related to it...) works. That's not at ''all'' how Bulbapedia works...<br />
::::::Beyond that, it's also not really your place to enforce Chosen's will. Especially when I really don't think Chosen position was that the page MUST be changed back immediately.<br />
::::::I'll end by re-emphasizing my last comment from before. An ALTERNATE should be very possible (i.e., a compromise). It doesn't have to be your way or the highway. As a starting point at least, I'd just ask you to recongize that. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:30, 21 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== USUM Fashion Items ==<br />
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I am exploring ways to expand the fashion item tables in [[Fashion item]] to include USUM-exclusive items and came up with two different ways to do so, all summarized in [[Talk:Fashion item#USUM fashion items]]. Given that you created the page in the first place, I would like to hear your input regarding the matter (preferably by posting on that talk page, rather than here). [[User:SilSinn9801|--SilSinn (Pokémon Sun TID: 768426&#59; Pokémon Ultra Moon TID: 123446)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 05:50, 20 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:This is the last thing I have gotten to this morning... I'll examine it later. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:43, 20 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I'm sorry, I forgot about this.<br />
::The first tables just seem terribly wasteful with the availability columns only having one half or the other used at a time. The second set seems smarter, though in that there shouldn't be any need for sups on the USUM items if there's a divider explaining exactly the same thing already. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:05, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::OK, so I discard the extra-column version and proceed with the second version. Given that, in the current tables, all fashion items listed under SM are also available in USUM and that items exclusive to Sun are also exclusive to USun (and those exclusive to Moon are also exclusive to UMoon), I think the current [[Template:Fashion/header|Fashion/header template]] can be updated to match my [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/headerUSUM|Fashion/headerUSUM template]]. Is it safe for me to update that template, given that such template is only being transcluded into one article (the one we want to update)? Or should I leave that matter to you as the author of the original template?<br />
:::Since the divider is a template (the one I called Fashion/middle; shall I rename it instead Fashion/divider?), do you give it approval to mainspace it? Or, what if I remove the divider and use instead the sups on the new items (on which case the divider template remains in my space)? It’s up to you to decide what you prefer. (At least I determined that the divider doesn’t affect table sortability, although its presence sometimes results in some very annoyingly interesting results when playing with column sorting.)<br />
:::And as for the current [[Template:Fashion/footer|Fashion/footer template]], can I also update it to match my [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/footerUSUM|Fashion/footerUSUM template]] (unless you want to rewrite some of the wording there, on which case I leave the update to you)? In the meantime, I will proceed to furnish the other updated tables, using the second format which you called smarter. --[[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn]] (TIDs: 768426<b><sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup></b>, 123446<b><sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup></b>) ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 04:10, 27 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Also, for at least <del>two</del> three male items (the Water Shoes, <del>and</del> the Nylon Backpack, and the Baseball Hat), I had to create another template, '''[[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/s2|Fashion/s2]]''', to allow dual pricing on a single slot (blank price in SM because of default availability, numeric price in USUM because you have to buy them in USUM). This template will also need approval for mainspacing. As for the other two templates, '''[[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/middle|Fashion/middle]]''' and '''[[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/su|Fashion/su]]''', a decision has to be made first: Do we keep the divider and drop the sups ''(on which case Fashion/middle would need to be approved/&#x200b;mainspaced and possibly renamed '''Fashion/divider''')''? Or do we drop the divider and keep the sups ''(on which case Fashion/su would need approval/&#x200b;mainspacing)''? This is perhaps the last decision to make before finally incorporating the updated male tables into the article itself ''(and also updating the item and pricing grand totals)'' before I move on with updating the female tables. --[[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn]] (TIDs: 768426<b><sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup></b>, 123446<b><sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup></b>) ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 17:45, 27 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I'm not going to try to get into this today, but... Did you try to post the entire set of USUM data on the Fashion item talk page? Because, in particular for a dataset that large, a talk page isn't really a proper place to try to store it. If you want to do something like that, you can just leave it on a page in your userspace. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:23, 28 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::You may be right about that. I will move all but two tables to a subpage of mine while I still compute the item and price totals. As for the rejected table, can I remove all but two slots from that table (or perhaps remove the entire rejected table so that I can later request the deletion of the now-unneeded UFashion templates in my userspace)? --[[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn]] (TIDs: 768426<b><sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup></b>, 123446<b><sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup></b>) ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 04:06, 28 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::P.S. I moved <del>almost</del> everything to [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items]] as per your recommendation. I only left behind <del>two representative tables (male and female tops) with</del> notes regarding the relocation of tables to my user subpage. --[[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn]] (TIDs: 768426<b><sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup></b>, 123446<b><sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup></b>) ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 04:23, 28 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::P.S. P.S. [[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] removed the rejected table (the one with three extra (wasteful) columns) so we don’t have to worry about it anymore (and I requested the deletion of the four UFashion templates used by that table, which ForceFire already achieved, because I no longer see any need for them). --[[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn]] (TIDs: 768426<b><sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup></b>, 123446<b><sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup></b>) ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 05:58, 28 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== 2 random questions ==<br />
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If my edit was tagged "bad formatting", how can I fix it? <br>How can I see the size of an article or an early version of an article? <br>[[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 20:22, 23 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I don't remember anything specific that triggers that notice, but if you want to narrow down where it's occurring, just remove parts of the page and see if the notice still shows up. (Although, I also don't remember for sure if the notice is shown when you just preview... If not, that wouldn't really be viable.)<br />
:The history tab shows the size of revisions. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:05, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I tried using the preview. It only shows when I try to save the edit. As for size, what if I want the size of the entire article, not just the revision? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:58, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Also I tried testing on section 13 of the Platinum walkthrough, and I was able to get the entire article to save without the tag. So I still don't know what caused the tag in the first place. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:22, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I don't understand what you're getting confused with. Take {{p|Froakie}}. The page is currently 17,685 bytes. When it was created it was 3,083 bytes. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:38, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Apparently I'm blind and can only see red or green text and not black text. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 20:26, 26 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Backtracking for items ==<br />
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How many items must require backtracking to an area in order to give that area its own backtracking section in a walkthrough? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:01, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:If there's anything to backtrack for it's worth noting. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:38, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::So if Route 214 has a rare candy that requires surf then it gets its own section? Or do I just give each HM a table with all the backtrack-obtainable items? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 06:27, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I suppose since the walkthroughs tend to go into detail, it should be more of specific text than bare bones table. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:37, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Can I use the itlist templates and put the specific stuff in there? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 14:41, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I don't know. Just get it out there, probably try to follow any examples for other backtracking, and if it can be improved it will be sooner or later. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:50, 25 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== SM101 Collective Nouns ==<br />
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Collective nouns alone are always singular: one duo, two duos; one pair, two pairs. [[User:Monchi132390|Monchi132390]] ([[User talk:Monchi132390|talk]]) 16:35, 26 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I'm mostly gonna keep this simple. On [[SM101]], things like "The duo '''is''' pleased" just sound wrong.<br />
:Beyond that, refer to https://www.dictionary.com/e/collective-nouns/ . The short version is, your "rule", by virtue of its inflexibility, is wrong. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:39, 27 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items|USUM Fashion items]] complete ==<br />
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I am done computing the new item and price totals for [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items|USUM fashion items]], which brings my working subpage to completion for your review. In summary, the following still needs to be done before these tables can be finally incorporated into [[Fashion item]]:<br />
* The [[Template:Fashion/header|Fashion/header]] and [[Template:Fashion/footer|Fashion/footer]] templates need to be updated to match my [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/headerUSUM|Fashion/headerUSUM]] and [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/footerUSUM|Fashion/footerUSUM]] templates, so I ask you whether I can directly update both templates (given that they are being transcluded only on one article, the server will only need to refresh that article so I don’t think there will be significant server stress) or leave the matter to you (as the original author of the templates).<br />
* I seek approval to mainspace my [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/s2|Fashion/s2]] row template, which is required to properly display items with dual game-dependent pricing (namely, the Water Shoes, Trekking Shoes, Nylon Backpack, Nylon Shoulder Bag, Baseball Cap, and Casual Cap, which had no price in {{gameabbrev7|SM}} because of their default availability but must now be purchased in {{gameabbrev7|USUM}}).<br />
* We still need to settle on whether to use the dividers (handled by my [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/middle|Fashion/middle]] template) or the {{sup/7|USUM}} superscripts (already incorporated into my [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/su|Fashion/su]] row template). If we keep the dividers and drop the sups, then only Fashion/middle will need to be mainspaced (and possibly renamed to Fashion/divider which I believe is a more fitting name); if, on the other hand, we drop the dividers and keep the sups, then only Fashion/su will need approval (with a possible renaming).<br />
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Apart from all that, my work is done: the tables are complete and the item/price tallies are also complete. I look forward for your permissions and approvals before proceeding to update the article itself. --[[User:SilSinn9801|''<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 04:04, 30 December 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== New vandal ==<br />
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Hey, heads up. {{user|Mckenzie6361}} has quite the talk page going on here. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 02:33, 2 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== LGPE on [[list of moves]] ==<br />
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A lot of people out there would like to see a list of moves that have been included/excluded from LGPE, and move availability between generations (eg Precipice Blades in ORAS but not XY) have already been noted on the table. If the way I did it looks too weird, do you have a better idea of how to approach it? (eg separate table/article, use of categories) [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 21:19, 4 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:The notes for ORAS/etc are really not about "availability" in a sense that would extend to LGPE. The list is supposed to inform you of when a move was introduced. Before LGPE, yes, this basically meant you knew what games a move was in, but that's more a byproduct than a specific intention for the list.<br />
:If you would like to create a userpage for the moves in LGPE, we may consider mainspacing it, but I think the putting them all in a category may be sufficient. (I want to say it's simpler too, but I guess it's not, as far as editing each of those pages. So emphasis on "I think", I guess, but for the moment I'm feeling categories.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:11, 5 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items|USUM Fashion items]] complete 2 ==<br />
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Have you taken time to read [[#USUM Fashion items complete|my posting above]] regarding [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items|USUM Fashion items]]? At least four things still need to be done (all of them itemized in the [[#USUM Fashion items complete|talk section above the section above this one]], because I don’t want to repeat them here) before the final updated tables can be incorporated into the [[Fashion item|final article itself]]. You seem to have taken time to make minor edits and reversals on other articles, but no time to review my updated tables and, most importantly, answer me the latest questions I posted on your talk page. I know being an admin is no easy job, especially when you are not earning a paycheck for doing this ''(everyone here is practically doing unpaid volunteer work, even myself!)'' --[[User:SilSinn9801|''<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 06:06, 5 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Honestly, from what I took from the tables I originally saw, the ''only'' thing that "needs" updating is the "SM"/"S"/"M" headers. The only reason I haven't given you a proper answer is because you introduced all these other templates/questions and I was partially confused that you think so much else might need updating/a "decision". (Which is to say, I haven't processed each of your suggestions enough to give you specific answers for each.)<br />
:More importantly, though, I've also been asked to consider images in the template. Adding images to the template or the page is not exactly solved simply. There are so many images that any solution kind of has non-trivial downsides. I thought I might be able to get to it sooner (for more than just theorizing), but I partly had other templates with more priority that took up the time I did have earlier. I now have time, but it's not likely to be done in the next hour. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:11, 5 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
::'''''Weekly update:''''' Have you taken enough time to examine my work and come up with proper/&#x200b;specific answers to my five or so questions? --[[User:SilSinn9801|''<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 05:14, 12 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== On Battle Mode ==<br />
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I see what you mean, and I apologize. While I know why I made the shifts and how I did what I did, you are right in calling me out to use of the proper channels. If there is anything I need to specifically do at the moment to correct these things, please let me know. Thank you. [[User:ScottOshawott|ScottOshawott]] ([[User talk:ScottOshawott|talk]]) 06:18, 13 January 2019 (UTC)</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Battle_Now_(Colosseum)&diff=2912147Battle Now (Colosseum)2019-01-13T06:15:01Z<p>ScottOshawott: Reworked the page to be a hub for the Colosseum Battle and Battle Now</p>
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<div>'''Battle Mode''' is one of the two halves of {{g|Colosseum}}. Unlike the Story Mode of Colosseum, Battle Mode focuses solely on Pokémon Battles, similar to the [[Pokémon Stadium series|Pokémon Stadium games]].<br />
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==Overview==<br />
Battle Mode consists of two options: [[Colosseum Battle (Colosseum)|Colosseum Battle]] and [[Battle Now (Colosseum)|Battle Now]]. Colosseum Battle provides various challenges for players, while also allowing for battles between the RPG and/or the [[Game Boy Advance]] games. The challenges consist of a more difficult version of the [[Mt. Battle]] 100-Trainer Challenge, as well as several Stadiums with various difficulties and restrictions on what the levels of the Pokémon used can be (either Lv. 50 or Lv. 100). Both the Mt. Battle challenge and the Stadium challenges reward players with [[Poké Coupon]]s, which can be used to exchange for various items.<br />
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Battle Now, on the other hand, allows for quick play by providing one to two players with one of several rental teams to face off against each other (against a CPU, in the case one one player). Four difficulties are available (Easy, Normal, Hard, or Ultimate), as well as the option to conduct either Single or Double Battles.<br />
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[[Category:Game mechanics]]<br />
[[Category:Pokémon Colosseum]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_Colosseum&diff=2912143Pokémon Colosseum2019-01-13T05:51:38Z<p>ScottOshawott: Change the "Colosseums" section to "Battle Mode," with more specific details on it and the different modes within</p>
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<div>{{Infobox game |colorscheme=colo|bordercolorscheme=colo<br />
|name=Pokémon Colosseum<br />
|jname=ポケモンコロシアム<br />
|boxart=Colosseum EN boxart.png<br />
|caption=Boxart of Pokémon Colosseum<br />
|jbox=Colosseum JP boxart.png<br />
|jcaption=Japanese boxart of Pokémon Colosseum<br />
|platform=[[Nintendo GameCube]]<br />
|category=RPG<br />
|players=1, 2, or 4<br />
|link_method=Cable, [[Game Boy Advance Wireless Adapter|Wireless Adapter]], [[e-Reader]]<br />
|developer=[[Genius Sonority]]<br />
|publisher=[[Nintendo]]<br />
|gen_series=[[Generation III]] [[side series]]<br />
|cero=All<br />
|esrb=E<br />
|pegi=3<br />
|acb=G<br />
|oflc=G8+<br />
|release_date_ja=November 21, 2003<ref>[http://www.pokemon.co.jp/game/other/colosseum/ Pokémon.co.jp]</ref><br />
|release_date_na=March 22, 2004<ref>[http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-colosseum/ Pokémon.com (US)]</ref><br />
|release_date_au=June 24, 2004<br />
|release_date_eu=May 14, 2004<ref>[http://www.pokemon.com/uk/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-colosseum/ Pokémon.com (UK)]</ref><br />
|website_ja=[http://www.pokemon.co.jp/game/other/colosseum/ Pokémon.co.jp]<br>[http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ngc/qc6a/ Nintendo.co.jp]<br />
|website_en=[http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-colosseum/ Pokémon.com]<br>[http://web.archive.org/web/20071012013618/http://www.nintendo.com/gamemini?gameid=m-Game-0000-1847 Nintendo.com]<br>[https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Games/Nintendo-GameCube/Pokemon-Colosseum-268566.html Nintendo.co.uk]<br>[https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Games/Nintendo-GameCube/Pokemon-Colosseum-Mega-Pak-268577.html Nintendo.co.uk (Mega Pak)]<br />
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'''Pokémon Colosseum''' (Japanese: '''ポケモンコロシアム''' ''Pokémon Colosseum'') was released on the [[Nintendo GameCube]] on November 21, 2003 in Japan, March 22, 2004 in North America, and May 14, 2004 in Europe. The game followed the basic stadium style battling found in the [[Pokémon Stadium series|Pokémon Stadium games]], but extra gameplay was included in the form of an RPG which allowed Trainers to catch [[Generation II]] and [[Generation III]] Pokémon in the desolate region of [[Orre]].<br />
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In this game, the [[player character]] [[Wes]] was formerly a member of an organization called [[Team Snagem]], which had obtained a machine that allowed the user to "snag" another Trainer's Pokémon as though it were wild. Another team, [[Cipher]], was responsible for corrupting the hearts of Pokémon and giving them to Trainers. With the help of a young girl named [[Rui]], [[Wes]] was able to find the Pokémon whose hearts were sealed and surrounded by a purple aura and use the [[Snag Machine]] to rescue Shadow Pokémon and restore them to normal.<br />
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==Plot==<br />
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The game starts with an opening scene depicting the player stealing equipment from the strongly guarded headquarters of [[Team Snagem]], and then proceeding to flee with an {{p|Espeon}} and {{p|Umbreon}} as the base explodes. After riding on a strange one-wheeled motorcycle for a while, the player stops at the dilapidated gas station of [[Outskirt Stand]]. The player battles Rider Willie, who tells the player about [[Phenac City]] after he is defeated.<br />
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Upon reaching the new location, a pair of shady people are just leaving the city with a noisy, wriggling sack in tow. Once they see that they've been caught, one of the goons, Folly, starts a battle with the player. After defeat, both people get away, leaving the sack unattended. A girl emerges from the bag after some trouble undoing the knot, and claim to have seen the kidnappers use some kind of strange looking Pokémon. The girl becomes the player's partner and both go to find the Mayor to clear things up. A strange man bumps into the player as he leaves the Mayor's office, predicting that he will see the player again sometime in the future. The player and partner then enter the house as the girl proceeds to alert the Mayor of weird Pokémon that have a dark aura and attack humans. The Mayor assures the team that he will look into this case, and suggests going to the city's Stadium. At the doorway of the Stadium, some Snagem members recognize the player as the traitor who blew up their base. A battle with one of them ensues, and upon defeat, the girl tells the player that she doesn't care about the past, but she does encourage buying some Poké Balls for future use. After this scene, the girl, [[Rui]], becomes the player's permanent partner, and will follow the player throughout the length of the game.<br />
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Then, after purchasing some Poké Balls at [[Outskirt Stand]], the player returns to Phenac City, only to find it taken over by some thugs. The player tries to rescue the Mayor, but finding the decked-out [[Miror B.]] and his mischievous friends in his wake. The player's partner identifies the first Shadow Pokémon available for capture after entering a battle with Miror B.'s underlings, [[Folly]] and [[Trudly]]. After beating both in a battle, and/or capturing the Shadow Pokémon, the player tries to leave the city for [[Pyrite Town]], but is waylaid by brightly clad goons at each exit. Each has a Shadow Pokémon, but defeat of one will cue the others to leave.<br />
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From this point, the player and partner will journey all across the [[Orre]] region, battling Trainers, snagging Shadow Pokémon, and uncovering the disastrous plan of the secret organization, [[Cipher]]. This shady group and its ambitious admins are the creators of Shadow Pokémon, closing their hearts to strengthen their stats. The player eventually learns how to reverse the effects of this process, and must capture all of Cipher's Shadow Pokémon to thwart the evil mastermind behind it all. After defeating [[Miror B]] in [[Pyrite Cave]], [[Dakim]] in [[Mt. Battle]], [[Venus]] in [[The Under]] and [[Ein]] in the [[Shadow Pokémon Lab]], the player goes to [[Realgam Tower]]; after defeating the {{tc|Cipher Admin|Admins}} again, [[Gonzap]] comes out and reveals that Cipher gave [[Team Snagem]] the [[Snag Machine]]s; and that Snagem gave the Pokémon to Cipher, who created Shadow Pokémon; meaning that this was all one master plan hatched by Cipher. After defeating Snagem, [[Nascour]]—the boss of [[Cipher]]—is defeated by the player. Afterwards, it is revealed that [[Phenac City]]'s mayor [[Es Cade]] is actually [[Evice]], the true boss of Cipher. After he is defeated, he tries to escape; however, fortunately, a {{p|Ho-Oh}} uses {{m|Sacred Fire}} to stop him, saving the day.<br />
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Even with the true leader of Cipher under arrest, there is still a post-ending to be completed. [[Secc]], from the [[Kids Grid]], emails the player information about some interesting characters who end up telling the player about some points of interest. Eventually, the Snagem Hideout becomes available for exploration, the Shadow Pokémon Laboratory gets some Cipher refugees to battle, and a hidden Stadium in the Under is brought to the player's attention. Lastly, after all the Shadow Pokémon are snagged, the player will be notified of a Trainer that is attacking people with another Shadow Pokémon, who supposedly looks just like the player. After the copy's defeat, there are still Colosseum battles to be won and a Ho-Oh to be obtained in Battle Mode.<br />
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==Blurb==<br />
Story Mode: Gotta Save 'em All!<br>In the new Orre region, a sinister organization is capturing Pokémon and misusing them. It's up to you to restore balance. Seek out all the Shadow Pokémon, snag them, and restore their spirit.<br />
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Unleash your Pokémon from Story Mode or send in your team from Pokémon Ruby or Pokémon Sapphire! Let them show off their true power in Single, Double, and Multi Battles!<br>Battle Mode: Worlds Collide!<br />
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==Characters==<br />
''See the [[:Category:Colosseum characters|Colosseum characters]] category.''<br />
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==Locations==<br />
''See the [[:Category:Colosseum locations|Colosseum locations]] category.''<br />
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==Pokémon==<br />
===Starter===<br />
{| align="center" style="background: #{{Colo color}}; {{roundy|1em}}; border: 2px solid #{{colo color light}};"<br />
|-<br />
! Starter<br />
|- align="center"<br />
|<br />
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{colo color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"<br />
|- align="center"<br />
{{Moveentry|196|Espeon|1|Psychic||Level 25}} ♂<br />
{{Moveentry|197|Umbreon|1|Dark||Level 26}} ♂<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
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===Snaggable===<br />
In Phenac City, the player is given a choice between {{p|Bayleef}}, {{p|Quilava}}, or {{p|Croconaw}}. The other two will be available later in the game, after the credits roll. The Pokémon whose type is weak to the chosen Pokémon's type will be at the [[Snagem Hideout]] and the Pokémon whose type is strong against the chosen Pokémon's type will be at the [[Shadow Pokémon Laboratory]].<br />
<br />
{| style="margin: auto; background: #{{xd color}}; {{roundy|1em}}; border: 2px solid #{{xd color light}};"<br />
|-<br />
! Shadow Pokémon<br />
|-<br />
|<br />
{| border="1" style="border-collapse: collapse" cellpadding="2"<br />
|- align="center"{{Moveentry|153|Bayleef|1|Grass||Level 30}}<br />
{{Moveentry|156|Quilava|1|Fire||Level 30}}<br />
{{Moveentry|159|Croconaw|1|Water||Level 30}}<br />
{{Moveentry|162|Furret|1|Normal||Level 33}}<br />
{{Moveentry|164|Noctowl|2|Normal|Flying|Level 30}}<br />
{{Moveentry|166|Ledian|2|Bug|Flying|Level 40}}<br />
{{Moveentry|168|Ariados|2|Bug|Poison|Level 43}}<br />
{{Moveentry|176|Togetic|2|Normal|Flying|Level 20}}<br />
{{Moveentry|180|Flaaffy|1|Electric||Level 30}}<br />
{{Moveentry|185|Sudowoodo|1|Rock||Level 35}}<br />
{{Moveentry|188|Skiploom|2|Grass|Flying|Level 30}}<br />
{{Moveentry|190|Aipom|1|Normal||Level 43}}<br />
{{Moveentry|192|Sunflora|1|Grass||Level 45}}<br />
{{Moveentry|193|Yanma|2|Bug|Flying|Level 33}}<br />
{{Moveentry|195|Quagsire|2|Water|Ground|Level 30}}<br />
{{Moveentry|198|Murkrow|2|Dark|Flying|Level 43}}<br />
{{Moveentry|200|Misdreavus|1|Ghost||Level 30}}<br />
{{Moveentry|205|Forretress|2|Bug|Steel|Level 43}}<br />
{{Moveentry|206|Dunsparce|1|Normal||Level 33}}<br />
{{Moveentry|207|Gligar|2|Ground|Flying|Level 43}}<br />
{{Moveentry|210|Granbull|1|Normal||Level 43}}<br />
{{Moveentry|211|Qwilfish|2|Water|Poison|Level 33}}<br />
{{Moveentry|213|Shuckle|2|Bug|Rock|Level 45}}<br />
{{Moveentry|214|Heracross|2|Bug|Fighting|Level 45}}<br />
{{Moveentry|215|Sneasel|2|Dark|Ice|Level 43}}<br />
{{Moveentry|217|Ursaring|1|Normal||Level 45}}<br />
{{Moveentry|218|Slugma|1|Fire||Level 30}}<br />
{{Moveentry|221|Piloswine|2|Ice|Ground|Level 43}}<br />
{{Moveentry|223|Remoraid|1|Water||Level 20}}<br />
{{Moveentry|225|Delibird|2|Ice|Flying|Level 45}}<br />
{{Moveentry|226|Mantine|2|Water|Flying|Level 33}}<br />
{{Moveentry|227|Skarmory|2|Steel|Flying|Level 47}}<br />
{{Moveentry|229|Houndoom|2|Dark|Fire|Level 48}}<br />
{{Moveentry|234|Stantler|1|Normal||Level 43}}<br />
{{Moveentry|235|Smeargle|1|Normal||Level 45}}<br />
{{Moveentry|237|Hitmontop|1|Fighting||Level 38}}<br />
{{Moveentry|241|Miltank|1|Normal||Level 48}}<br />
{{Moveentry|243|Raikou|1|Electric||Level 40}}<br />
{{Moveentry|244|Entei|1|Fire||Level 40}}<br />
{{Moveentry|245|Suicune|1|Water||Level 40}}<br />
{{Moveentry|248|Tyranitar|2|Rock|Dark|Level 55}}<br />
{{Moveentry|296|Makuhita|1|Fighting||Level 30}}<br />
{{Moveentry|307|Meditite|2|Fighting|Psychic|Level 33}}<br />
{{Moveentry|329|Vibrava|2|Ground|Dragon|Level 43}}<br />
{{Moveentry|333|Swablu|2|Normal|Flying|Level 33}}<br />
{{Moveentry|357|Tropius|2|Grass|Flying|Level 49}}<br />
{{Moveentry|359|Absol|1|Dark||Level 48}}<br />
{{Moveentry|376|Metagross|2|Steel|Psychic|Level 50}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
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===Prizes===<br />
====Plusle====<br />
* {{p|Plusle}} is given to Wes by [[Duking]] after Wes saves it from [[Cipher]]. He asks Wes to protect it from harm and to make it stronger.<br />
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====Ho-Oh====<br />
Ho-Oh is obtainable in Pokémon Colosseum when all of the 48 [[Shadow Pokémon]] have been snagged and purified. Players would then have to use a team of Pokémon from the RPG to clear Mt. Battle in Battle Mode from zones one to 100.<br />
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{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #444a53; border: 3px solid #B6CAE4"<br />
! style="color:#444a53; background:#DDE6F1; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color|444a53|Region}}<br />
! style="color:#444a53; background:#DDE6F1" | {{color2|444a53|Original Trainer|OT}}<br />
! style="color:#444a53; background:#DDE6F1; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|444a53|Trainer ID number|ID no.}}<br />
|-<br />
| style="text-align:center; background:#fff" | Japanese<br />
| style="text-align:center; background:#fff" | {{color|0070f8|バトルやま}}<br />
| rowspan="6" style="text-align:center; background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | 10048<br />
|- style="text-align:center; background:#fff"<br />
| English<br />
|{{color|0070f8|MATTLE}}<br />
|- style="text-align:center; background:#fff"<br />
| {{pmin|France|French}}<br />
| {{color|0070f8|MT BATA}}<br />
|- style="text-align:center; background:#fff"<br />
| {{pmin|Germany|German}}<br />
| {{color|0070f8|DUELLBE}}<br />
|- style="text-align:center; background:#fff"<br />
| {{pmin|Italy|Italian}}<br />
| {{color|0070f8|MONTE L}}<br />
|-<br />
| style="text-align:center; background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{pmin|Spain|Spanish}}<br />
| style="text-align:center; background:#fff" | {{color|0070f8|ERNESTO}}<br />
|}{{-}}<br />
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<br />
===Pokémon obtainable by other means===<br />
====Ageto Celebi====<br />
This Celebi was only obtainable from the [[Pokémon Colosseum Bonus Disc|Japanese bonus disc]].<br />
{{G3event|<br />
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<br />
====Colosseum Pikachu====<br />
This Pikachu was only obtainable from the [[Pokémon Colosseum Bonus Disc|Japanese bonus disc]].<br />
{{G3event|<br />
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<br />
====Wishmaker Jirachi====<br />
Transferred directly to Pokémon Ruby or Sapphire from American [[Pokémon Colosseum Bonus Disc|Bonus Disc]].<br />
{{G3event|<br />
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<br />
====Japanese e-card====<br />
=====Togepi=====<br />
{{G3event|<br />
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otcolor=blue|<br />
ot=(Purifier)|<br />
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encounter=fateful|<br />
type1=Normal|move1=Metronome|<br />
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<br />
=====Mareep=====<br />
{{G3event|<br />
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typea=Electric|<br />
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<br />
=====Scizor=====<br />
{{G3event|<br />
ball=Poké|<br />
pokemon=Scizor|<br />
nick=ハッサム|<br />
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typea=Bug|<br />
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<br />
==Purification techniques==<br />
{{main|Purification}}<br />
Pokémon in the game can be purified in a variety of ways.<br />
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* Walking around with [[Shadow Pokémon]] in the party.<br />
* Rubbing [[Scent]]s on the Pokémon (these can be bought at [[Agate Village]]).<br />
* Battling with them and calling out when the Pokémon reaches its Hyper Mode.<br />
* Placing a Shadow Pokémon in the [[Pokémon Day Care]] in Agate Village.<br />
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Once the [[Heart Gauge]] reaches the point where it says "The Pokémon's heart is about to open! Undo the final lock!", Trainers would go to the Agate Village shrine and use its power to restore the Pokémon's heart and remove the move known as {{m|Shadow Rush}}. Once the Pokémon has been purified, it will gain all [[experience]] and [[friendship]] it earned during the time it was a Shadow Pokémon, and acquire a special [[Ribbon]] exclusive to purified Pokémon. No [[effort values]] are earned until the Pokémon has been purified.<br />
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After players have beaten the game, Pokémon can be traded to all [[Generation III]] games provided that their hearts are open (and certain objectives have been completed in {{v2|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}, if they are being traded to). Note that trading Pokémon to Ruby and Sapphire will not unlock the [[National Pokédex]].<br />
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==Battle Mode==<br />
The other half of the game, known as [[Battle Mode (Colosseum)|Battle Mode]], consists of [[Colosseum Battle (Colosseum)|Colosseum Battle]] and [[Battle Now (Colosseum)|Battle Now]]. This mode allows players to focus solely on Pokémon Battles, similar to the Stadium series.<br />
<br />
===Colosseum Battle===<br />
{{main|Colosseum Battle (Colosseum)}}<br />
Colosseum Battle allows players to participate in various challenges that can earn the player [[Poké Coupon]]s. Along with a different version of the [[Mt. Battle]] 100-Trainer Challenge, Colosseum Battle also consists of several Colosseum venues to which Trainers can send Pokémon from the RPG or the [[Game Boy Advance]] games to battle.<br />
<br />
* [[Phenac Stadium]]<br />
* [[Pyrite Colosseum]]<br />
* [[Under Colosseum]]<br />
* [[Orre Colosseum]] (Level 50 and Level 100)<br />
* [[Realgam Colosseum|Tower Colosseum]]<br />
* [[Deep Colosseum]]<br />
<br />
===Battle Now===<br />
{{main|Battle Now (Colosseum)}}<br />
Battle Now allows one to two players to battle immediately, without any preparation or other games or Pokémon necessary. {{g|XD: Gale of Darkness}}' [[Quick Battle]] is almost identical to this mode.<br />
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==Rewards==<br />
While competing in the [[Mt. Battle]] 100 Trainer challenge in either the RPG or the Colosseum section of the game, players can receive [[Poké Coupon]]s which can be used to buy [[item]]s. Additionally, players have the option of storing Poké Coupons on a {{game3|Ruby and Sapphire|Pokémon Ruby or Sapphire|s}} game pak for later use. Below is a list of what players can receive after collecting a set amount of Poké Coupons.<br />
<br />
{{shop|[[Poké Coupon]] shop}}<br />
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|TM29|3500|PC||TM Psychic|Psychic}}|{{shopitem|TM13|4000|PC||TM Ice|Ice Beam}}}}<br />
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|TM24|4000|PC||TM Electric|Thunderbolt}}|{{shopitem|TM35|4000|PC||TM Fire|Flamethrower}}}}<br />
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|TM32|4000|PC||TM Normal|Double Team}}|{{shopitem|Ganlon Berry|15000|PC}}}}<br />
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Salac Berry|15000|PC}}|{{shopitem|Petaya Berry|15000|PC}}}}<br />
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Apicot Berry|15000|PC}}|{{shopitem|Leftovers|10000|PC}}}}<br />
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Mental Herb|8000|PC}}|{{shopitem|Focus Band|10000|PC}}}}<br />
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|White Herb|8000|PC}}|{{shopitem|Quick Claw|10000|PC}}}}<br />
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|BrightPowder|10000|PC}}|{{shopitem|King's Rock|10000|PC}}}}<br />
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Scope Lens|10000|PC}}|{{shopitem|Choice Band|10000|PC}}}}<br />
{{shopfooter}}<br />
<br />
==Glitches==<br />
{{main|List_of_glitches_in_Generation_III#Colosseum|List of glitches in Generation III}}<br />
<br />
==Compatibility==<br />
Pokémon Colosseum is compatible with all five of the [[core series]] Pokémon games on the [[Game Boy Advance]]. Items and Pokémon can be traded between them in the same manner that they can be traded between each other, however, the player must have defeated [[Evice]] in the main story mode in order to unlock it, have a GameCube-Game Boy Advance cable, and a Game Boy Advance.<br />
<br />
==Development Cycle==<br />
{{main|Pokémon Colosseum beta}}<br />
<br />
==Staff==<br />
{{main|Staff of Pokémon Colosseum}}<br />
<br />
==Trivia==<br />
* Despite being on the cover, {{p|Groudon}} and {{p|Kyogre}} are not available in the game unless traded from a [[Game Boy Advance]] game.<br />
* The starter Pokémon, {{p|Espeon}} and {{p|Umbreon}}, already have some [[experience]] points toward the next level at the start of the game.<br />
* The game erroneously calls {{m|Frenzy Plant}} "Solid Plant".<br />
* If a Pokémon is traded from Pokémon XD to a GBA game and then to this game, the caught location will most likely be displayed as [[Mt. Battle]], regardless of where it was actually caught in [[Orre]], even if it was caught in an area accessible in the game, because both games use [[List of locations by index number (GCN)|exactly the same internal index list for locations]]. Doing the reverse also produces a status screen oddity.<br />
* Unlike the {{g|Stadium series}}, Pokémon in this game retain their [[Cry|computerized voices]], identical to those in the GBA games.<br />
* In {{g|XD: Gale of Darkness}}, the Trainer in zone 93 of [[Mt. Battle]] has {{p|Espeon}}, {{p|Umbreon}}, {{p|Raikou}}, {{p|Entei}}, and {{p|Suicune}}, Colosseum's [[starter Pokémon]] and Shadow [[legendary Pokémon]].<br />
* Pokémon Colosseum and {{g|XD: Gale of Darkness}} are the only RPG Pokémon games released after {{game|Crystal}} not to give the player the choice of playing as either a boy or a girl.<br />
** They are also the only spin-off Pokémon games released with similar mechanics to the core series games.<br />
* The [[Pokémon Storage System]] only has 3 boxes, thus allowing a maximum of 90 Pokémon to be stored. As there are no [[wild Pokémon]] to be caught and [[Trade|trading]] yields no additional Pokémon, the player normally can never get more than the 48 ordinary Shadow Pokémon, the three Japanese [[e-Reader]]-exclusive Shadow Pokémon, {{p|Espeon}} and {{p|Umbreon}}, and two [[gift Pokémon]]. However, when a {{p|Nincada}} evolves, the game still creates the additional {{p|Shedinja}}, thus allowing the player to keep the purified Pokémon in the game plus more from other games. If the player attempts to catch a Shadow Pokémon with full PC boxes and party, the message "The box is full. You can't Snag any more Pokémon." will be displayed.<br />
* None of the Pokémon obtainable in the game are from [[Generation I]].<br />
<br />
==External links==<br />
* [http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/gameslist/manuals/GCN_Pokemon_Colosseum.pdf Official PDF-file manual] for ''Pokémon Colosseum'' <small>(English)</small><br />
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==In other languages==<br />
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==See also==<br />
* [[Staff of Pokémon Colosseum]]<br />
* [[Pokémon Colosseum Snatcher Leo]] - manga adaptation<br />
* [[Pokémon Colosseum Snatchers]] - manga adaptation<br />
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[[zh:宝可梦圆形竞技场]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Battle_Now_(Colosseum)&diff=2912135Battle Now (Colosseum)2019-01-13T05:31:49Z<p>ScottOshawott: Added an intro section and overed the orignial intro to be an overview section</p>
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<div>'''Battle Now''' is one of the two options for {{g|Colosseum}}'s [[Battle Mode (Colosseum)|Battle Mode]]. While the [[Colosseum Battle (Colosseum)|Colosseum Battle]] requires the player to use Pokémon they have obtained, Battle Now instead provides rental teams to allow one to two players to battle immediately. {{g|XD: Gale of Darkness}}' [[Quick Battle]] is almost identical to this mode.<br />
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==Overview==<br />
In [[Pokémon Colosseum]]'s '''Battle Now''' mode, the player may participate in quick battles that draw from a small set of predefined teams and opponents. The battles are set in [[Phenac Colosseum]] and the player can choose from four different battle difficulties, Easy, Normal, Hard, or Ultimate, and two battle types, Single or Double. For each difficulty level and each battle type there are eight possible opponents. When the player chooses to play, they are offered a team that corresponds to the team of one of these opponents, and if they accept that team, their opponent will be chosen from one of the remaining opponents.<br />
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The Battle Now opponents can also be found in the Battle Modes of [[Mt. Battle]]; they are entirely unchanged, with the exception that Trainers who were designated as {{tc|Area Leader}}s in Mt. Battle are instead classed as {{tc|Supertrainer}}s in Battle Now. Higher difficulty levels correspond to higher Mt. Battle Areas.<br />
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==Single Battles==<br />
{{incomplete|section|Each Single Battle Trainer should have full team data, like all the Trainers listed under Double Battles}}<br />
===Easy===<br />
{{trainerheader|mountain}}<br />
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{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Lady.png{{!}}70px|Lady|Zoila|None|6|183|Marill|F|50|None|041|Zubat|M|50|None|339|Barboach|M|50|None|218|Slugma|F|50|None|165|Ledyba|M|50|None|300|Skitty|F|50|None|game=colo|36=オリエ|37=Orie}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Fun Old Man.png{{!}}70px|Fun Old Man|Grund|None|6|360|Wynaut|M|50|None|220|Swinub|F|50|None|161|Sentret|M|50|None|163|Hoothoot|F|50|None|281|Kirlia|F|50|None|278|Wingull|F|50|None|game=colo|36=カドン|37=Kadon}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Roller Boy.png{{!}}70px|Roller Boy|Gars|None|6|039|Jigglypuff|F|50|None|307|Meditite|M|50|None|363|Spheal|M|50|None|179|Mareep|F|50|None|074|Geodude|M|50|None|167|Spinarak|M|50|game=colo|36=ツリー|37=Tsuri}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Rider m.png{{!}}70px|Rider|Ladin|None|6|309|Electrike|M|50|None|037|Vulpix|F|50|None|287|Slakoth|M|50|None|204|Pineco|M|50|None|353|Shuppet|F|50|None|116|Horsea|M|50|None|game=colo|36=ツナミ|37=Tsunami}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Bodybuilder m 1.png{{!}}70px|Bodybuilder|Rapoz|None|6|285|Shroomish|M|50|None|293|Whismur|F|50|None|361|Snorunt|F|50|None|283|Surskit|F|50|None|025|Pikachu|M|50|None|027|Sandshrew|F|50|None|game=colo|36=シュミト|37=Shumito}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Rich Boy.png{{!}}75px|Rich Boy|Denc|None|6|155|Cyndaquil|M|50|None|063|Abra|M|50|None|084|Doduo|F|50|None|066|Machop|M|50|None|158|Totodile|M|50|None|333|Swablu|F|50|None|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Guy.png{{!}}90px|Guy|Ardo|None|6|325|Spoink|F|50|None|088|Grimer|M|50|None|290|Nincada|M|50|None|304|Aron|F|50|None|370|Luvdisc|F|50|None|228|Houndour|M|50|None|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerfooter|mountain|1}}<br />
<br />
===Normal===<br />
{{trainerheader|volcano}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Rider m.png{{!}}80px|Rider|Lohon|None|6|222|Corsola|F|50|Mago Berry|188|Skiploom|M|50|Iapapa Berry|067|Machoke|M|50|Shell Bell|311|Plusle|M|50|Lum Berry|267|Beautifly|M|50|Aguav Berry|264|Linoone|F|50|Chesto Berry|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerfooter|volcano|1}}<br />
<br />
====Slewis====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Trinch.png<br />
|size=80px<br />
|class=Area Leader<br />
|name=Slewis<br />
|prize= N/A<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=064<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Kadabra<br />
|type1=Psychic<br />
|level=50<br />
|gender=male<br />
|held=BrightPowder<br />
|ability=Synchronize<br />
|move1=Reflect|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Thief|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Confusion|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Role Play|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=303<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Mawile<br />
|type1=Steel<br />
|level=50<br />
|gender=male<br />
|held=Aguav Berry<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Fake Tears|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=ViceGrip|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Iron Defense|move4type=Steel}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=269<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Dustox<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Poison<br />
|level=50<br />
|gender=female<br />
|held=Leftovers<br />
|ability=Shield Dust<br />
|move1=Moonlight|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Psybeam|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Silver Wind|move3type=Bug<br />
|move4=Toxic|move4type=Poison}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=277<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Swellow<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|level=50<br />
|gender=female<br />
|held=Scope Lens<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Growl|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Wing Attack|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Double Team|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=253<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Grovyle<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|level=50<br />
|gender=male<br />
|held=Sitrus Berry<br />
|ability=Overgrow<br />
|move1=Leaf Blade|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=Screech|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Pursuit|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=False Swipe|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=259<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Marshtomp<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Ground<br />
|level=50<br />
|gender=male<br />
|held=Mystic Water<br />
|ability=Torrent<br />
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Water Gun|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Mud Shot|move3type=Ground<br />
|move4=Endeavor|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{trainerheader|volcano}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Hunter m.png{{!}}90px|Hunter|Gohn|None|6|312|Minun|F|50|Oran Berry|168|Ariados|M|50|Leppa Berry|111|Rhyhorn|F|50|Mental Herb|228|Houndour|M|50|BlackGlasses|341|Corphish|M|50|Figy Berry|202|Wobbuffet|M|50|Cheri Berry|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|volcano}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Glasses Man.png{{!}}80px|Glasses Man|Acron|None|6|361|Snorunt|F|50|NeverMeltIce|088|Grimer||50|Poison Barb|054|Psyduck||50|Mystic Water|081|Magnemite||50|Magnet|155|Cyndaquil|M|50|Scope Lens|246|Larvitar|M|50|Persim Berry|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|volcano}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Bodybuilder m 1.png{{!}}100px|Bodybuilder|Rawles|None|6|358|Chimecho|F|50|TwistedSpoon|084|Doduo|F|50|Oran Berry|063|Abra|M|50|Lum Berry|252|Treecko|M|50|Rawst Berry|100|Voltorb||50|Iapapa Berry|120|Staryu||50|BrightPowder|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|volcano}}<br />
{{trainerentry|XD Chaser m.png{{!}}110px|Chaser|Mandev|None|6|225|Delibird||50|Aguav Berry|180|Flaaffy||50|Lax Incense|325|Spoink||50|Chesto Berry|333|Swablu||50|Figy Berry|072|Tentacool||50|Oran Berry|322|Numel||50|Mago Berry|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerfooter|volcano|1}}<br />
====Cryal====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{water color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{water color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{water color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Supertrainer m 1.png{{!}}75px<br />
|class=Area Leader<br />
|name=Cryal<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=153<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Bayleef<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|level=50<br />
|gender=male<br />
|held=Leftovers<br />
|ability=Overgrow<br />
|move1=Razor Leaf|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=Body Slam|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Synthesis|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Giga Drain|move4type=Grass}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=156<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Quilava<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|level=50<br />
|gender=male<br />
|held=Persim Berry<br />
|ability=Blaze<br />
|move1=SmokeScreen|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Swift|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Flame Wheel|move3type=Fire<br />
|move4=Thrash|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=159<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Croconaw<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|level=50<br />
|gender=male<br />
|held=Aguav Berry<br />
|ability=Torrent<br />
|move1=Scary Face|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Waterfall|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Slash|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Bite|move4type=Dark}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{water color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=198<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Murkrow<br />
|type1=Dark|type2=Flying<br />
|level=50<br />
|gender=female<br />
|held=Lum Berry<br />
|ability=Insomnia<br />
|move1=Night Shade|move1type=Ghost<br />
|move2=Mirror Coat|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Faint Attack|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=Taunt|move4type=Dark}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=308<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Medicham<br />
|type1=Fighting|type2=Psychic<br />
|level=50<br />
|gender=female<br />
|held=Black Belt<br />
|ability=Pure Power<br />
|move1=Confusion|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Hi Jump Kick|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Meditate|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=ThunderPunch|move4type=Electric}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=364<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Sealeo<br />
|type1=Ice|type2=Water<br />
|level=50<br />
|gender=female<br />
|held=NeverMeltIce<br />
|ability=Thick Fat<br />
|move1=Aurora Beam|move1type=Ice<br />
|move2=Rest|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Snore|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Body Slam|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{trainerheader|volcano}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Athlete m.png{{!}}80px|Athlete|Gulor|None|6|351|Castform|F|50|Mystic Water|177|Natu|F|50|Mago Berry|320|Wailmer||50|Iapapa Berry|375|Metang||50|Metal Coat|372|Shelgon|M|50|Lum Berry|262|Mightyena|M|50|Liechi Berry|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|volcano}}<br />
{{trainerfooter|volcano|1}}<br />
===Hard===<br />
{{trainerheader|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Rich Boy.png{{!}}70px|Rich Boy|Benit|None|6|291|Ninjask||50|Aguav Berry|085|Dodrio||50|White Herb|357|Tropius||50|Leftovers|226|Mantine||50|Iapapa Berry|178|Xatu||50|Mago Berry|373|Salamence||50|Shell Bell|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Hunter m.png{{!}}80px|Hunter|Cewan|None|6|326|Grumpig||50|Lum Berry|297|Hariyama||50|Focus Band|210|Granbull||50|Figy Berry|354|Banette||50|Sitrus Berry|324|Torkoal||50|Lax Incense|026|Raichu||50|Shell Bell|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Fun Old Lady.png{{!}}80px|Fun Old Lady|Perstin|None|6|275|Shiftry||50|Scope Lens|101|Electrode||50|Magnet|295|Exploud||50|Iapapa Berry|073|Tentacruel||50|Mystic Water|076|Golem||50|Lum Berry|362|Glalie||50|NeverMeltIce|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Cooltrainer m.png{{!}}90px|Cooltrainer|Dazon|None|6|182|Bellossom||50|Miracle Seed|112|Rhydon||50|Lum Berry|368|Gorebyss||50|Aguav Berry|110|Weezing||50|Leftovers|082|Magneton||50|Magnet|065|Alakazam||50|TwistedSpoon|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Athlete f.png{{!}}90px|Athlete|Ziale|None|6|346|Cradily||50|Lax Incense|127|Pinsir||50|Shell Bell|348|Armaldo||50|Aguav Berry|241|Miltank||50|Lum Berry|344|Claydol||50|BrightPowder|321|Wailord||50|Liechi Berry|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Hunter m.png{{!}}80px|Hunter|Corvin|None|6|232|Donphan||50|Mental Herb|055|Golduck||50|Lum Berry|335|Zangoose||50|Liechi Berry|181|Ampharos||50|Sitrus Berry|214|Heracross||50|Scope Lens|229|Houndoom||50|Iapapa Berry|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Glasses Man.png{{!}}80px|Glasses Man|Dunor|None|6|089|Muk||50|Poison Barb|319|Sharpedo||50|Persim Berry|038|Ninetales||50|Quick Claw|233|Porygon2||50|Sitrus Berry|068|Machamp||50|Iapapa Berry|282|Gardevoir||50|White Herb|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerfooter|mountain|1}}<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{water color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{water color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{water color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Trinch.png{{!}}80px<br />
|class=Area Leader<br />
|name=Vario<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=6<br />
}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=289<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Slaking<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|level=50|gender=<br />
|held=Lum Berry<br />
|ability=Truant<br />
|move1=Body Slam|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Faint Attack|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Counter|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Slack Off|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=130<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Gyarados<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Flying<br />
|level=50|gender=|held=Persim Berry<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Thrash|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Dragon Dance|move3type=Dragon<br />
|move4=Waterfall|move4type=Water}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=306<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Aggron<br />
|type1=Steel|type2=Rock<br />
|level=50|gender=|held=Metal Coat<br />
|ability=Sturdy<br />
|move1=Iron Defense|move1type=Steel<br />
|move2=Metal Claw|move2type=Steel<br />
|move3=Roar|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{water color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=365<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Walrein<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Ice<br />
|level=50|gender=|held=Leftovers<br />
|ability=Thick Fat<br />
|move1=Body Slam|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Aurora Beam|move2type=Ice<br />
|move3=Hail|move3type=Ice<br />
|move4=Water Pulse|move4type=Water}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=310<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Manectric<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|level=50|gender=|held=Scope Lens<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Spark|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Bite|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=Iron Tail|move4type=Steel}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=332<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Cacturne<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Dark<br />
|level=50|gender=|held=BrightPowder<br />
|ability=Sand Veil<br />
|move1=Sandstorm|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Leech Seed|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Faint Attack|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=Needle Arm|move4type=Grass}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
===Ultimate===<br />
{{trainerheader|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Rider m.png{{!}}80px|Rider|Rebin|None|6|257|Blaziken||50|Black Belt|045|Vileplume||50|Persim Berry|171|Lanturn||50|Leftovers|362|Glalie||50|NeverMeltIce|210|Granbull||50|Aspear Berry|354|Banette||50|Spell Tag|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Cooltrainer m.png{{!}}90px|Cooltrainer|Cruik|N/A|6|244|Entei||50|Persim Berry|076|Golem||50|Figy Berry|089|Muk||50|Poison Barb|324|Torkoal||50|Focus Band|310|Manectric||50|Magnet|073|Tentacruel||50|Mystic Water|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Hunter m.png{{!}}90px|Hunter|Parel|N/A|6|260|Swampert||50|Scope Lens|065|Alakazam||50|TwistedSpoon|272|Ludicolo||50|King's Rock|365|Walrein||50|Iapapa Berry|055|Golduck||50|Lax Incense|295|Exploud||50|Silk Scarf|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Athlete f.png{{!}}90px|Athlete|Nomol|N/A|6|243|Raikou||50|Magnet|038|Ninetales||50|White Herb|110|Weezing||50|Poison Barb|213|Shuckle||50|Lax Incense|348|Armaldo||50|Scope Lens|178|Xatu||50|BrightPowder|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Fun Old Lady.png{{!}}90px|Fun Old Lady|Desor|N/A|6|154|Meganium||50|Sitrus Berry|157|Typhlosion||50|Focus Band|160|Feraligatr||50|Scope Lens|196|Espeon||50|BrightPowder|197|Umbreon||50|Leftovers|127|Pinsir||50|Lum Berry|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Bodybuilder f.png{{!}}110px|Bodybuilder|Eldora|N/A|6|245|Suicune||50|BrightPowder|181|Ampharos||50|Magnet|344|Claydol||50|Liechi Berry|234|Stantler||50|Lax Incense|233|Porygon2||50|Scope Lens|232|Donphan||50|Focus Band|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Hunter m.png{{!}}90px|Hunter|Lisan|N/A|6|376|Metagross||50|Metal Coat|346|Cradily||50|Hard Stone|068|Machamp||50|Black Belt|227|Skarmory||50|Sharp Beak|112|Rhydon||50|Soft Sand|297|Hariyama||50|Chesto Berry|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
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{{trainerfooter|mountain|1}}<br />
<br />
==Double Battles==<br />
===Easy===<br />
====Rich Boy Brot====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Rich Boy.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Rich Boy<br />
|name=Brot<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Poochyena<br />
|ndex=261<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Dark<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Run Away<br />
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Thief|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Roar|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Yawn|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Pineco<br />
|ndex=204<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Sturdy<br />
|move1=Spikes|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Rapid Spin|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Toxic|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Pin Missile|move4type=Bug}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Swinub<br />
|ndex=220<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ice|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Oblivious<br />
|move1=Amnesia|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Powder Snow|move2type=Ice<br />
|move3=Roar|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Rock Smash|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Sandshrew<br />
|ndex=027<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Sand Veil<br />
|move1=Sandstorm|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Defense Curl|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Scratch|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Fury Swipes|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Slakoth<br />
|ndex=287<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Truant<br />
|move1=Yawn|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Rest|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Snore|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Toxic|move4type=Poison}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Mareep<br />
|ndex=179<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Growl|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Tackle|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Cotton Spore|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=ThunderShock|move4type=Electric}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Teacher Keeda====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Teacher.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Teacher<br />
|name=Keeda<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6<br />
}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Ralts<br />
|ndex=280<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Psychic<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Trace<br />
|move1=Reflect|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Dream Eater|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Confusion|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Calm Mind|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Shroomish<br />
|ndex=285<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Effect Spore<br />
|move1=Spore|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=Absorb|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Bullet Seed|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Tackle|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Sentret<br />
|ndex=161<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Keen Eye<br />
|move1=Rest|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Defense Curl|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Amnesia|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Assist|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Vulpix<br />
|ndex=037<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Flash Fire<br />
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Ember|move2type=Fire<br />
|move3=Attract|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Will-O-Wisp|move4type=Fire}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Duskull<br />
|ndex=355<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ghost<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Confuse Ray|move1type=Ghost<br />
|move2=Astonish|move2type=Ghost<br />
|move3=Disable|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Curse|move4type=???}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Spinarak<br />
|ndex=167<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Poison<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Insomnia<br />
|move1=Poison Sting|move1type=Poison<br />
|move2=Night Shade|move2type=Ghost<br />
|move3=Spider Web|move3type=Bug<br />
|move4=Leech Life|move4type=Bug}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Athlete Pasha====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Athlete f.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Athlete<br />
|name=Pasha<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6<br />
}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Whismur<br />
|ndex=293<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Soundproof<br />
|move1=Supersonic|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Astonish|move2type=Ghost<br />
|move3=Screech|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Pound|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Shuppet<br />
|ndex=353<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ghost<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Insomnia<br />
|move1=Will-O-Wisp|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Astonish|move2type=Ghost<br />
|move3=Destiny Bond|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Knock Off|move4type=Dark}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Slugma<br />
|ndex=218<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Magma Armor<br />
|move1=Rock Smash|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Ember|move2type=Fire<br />
|move3=Light Screen|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Smog|move4type=Poison}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Nincada<br />
|ndex=290<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Compound Eyes<br />
|move1=Sunny Day|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Gust|move2type=Flying<br />
|move3=Metal Claw|move3type=Steel<br />
|move4=Mud-Slap|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Barboach<br />
|ndex=339<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Oblivious<br />
|move1=Mud-Slap|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Water Gun|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Future Sight|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Amnesia|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Meditite<br />
|ndex=307<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fighting|type2=Psychic<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Pure Power<br />
|move1=Meditate|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Hidden Power|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Reversal|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Fake Out|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Glasses Man Bayel====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Glasses Man.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Glasses Man<br />
|name=Bayel<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Pichu<br />
|ndex=172<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Thunder Wave|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=ThunderShock|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Sweet Kiss|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=DoubleSlap|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Baltoy<br />
|ndex=343<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ground|type2=Psychic<br />
|gender=both<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Mud-Slap|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Cosmic Power|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Skill Swap|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Rapid Spin|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Lotad<br />
|ndex=270<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Grass<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Rain Dish<br />
|move1=Water Gun|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Mega Drain|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Growl|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Mist|move4type=Ice}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Snubbull<br />
|ndex=209<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Rage|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Charm|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Lick|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Ledyba<br />
|ndex=165<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Swarm<br />
|move1=Supersonic|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Thief|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Flash|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Comet Punch|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Marill<br />
|ndex=183<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Huge Power<br />
|move1=Rollout|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Light Screen|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Water Gun|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Defense Curl|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Rider Mayme====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Rider f.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Rider<br />
|name=Mayme<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Sunkern<br />
|ndex=191<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Chlorophyll<br />
|move1=Synthesis|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=Growth|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Leech Seed|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=SolarBeam|move4type=Grass}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Togepi<br />
|ndex=175<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Hustle<br />
|move1=Yawn|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Follow Me|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Sunny Day|move3type=Fire<br />
|move4=Peck|move4type=Flying}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Wurmple<br />
|ndex=265<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Shield Dust<br />
|move1=String Shot|move1type=Bug<br />
|move2=Poison Sting|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Tackle|move3type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Aron<br />
|ndex=304<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Steel|type2=Rock<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Rock Head<br />
|move1=Protect|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Tackle|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Toxic|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Mud-Slap|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Shedinja<br />
|ndex=292<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Ghost<br />
|ability=Wonder Guard<br />
|move1=Scratch|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Leech Life|move2type=Bug<br />
|move3=Metal Claw|move3type=Steel<br />
|move4=Grudge|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Makuhita<br />
|ndex=296<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Fake Out|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Tackle|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Arm Thrust|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Knock Off|move4type=Dark}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Cooltrainer Shadd====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Cooltrainer m.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Cooltrainer<br />
|classlink=Ace Trainer (Trainer class)<br />
|name=Shadd<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Skitty<br />
|ndex=300<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Cute Charm<br />
|move1=Helping Hand|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Assist|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Covet|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Growl|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Jigglypuff<br />
|ndex=039<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Cute Charm<br />
|move1=Sing|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Pound|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Fake Tears|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=DoubleSlap|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Kirlia<br />
|ndex=281<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Psychic<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Synchronize<br />
|move1=Double Team|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Calm Mind|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Thief|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=Future Sight|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Surskit<br />
|ndex=283<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Water<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Swift Swim<br />
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Bubble|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Toxic|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Attract|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Trapinch<br />
|ndex=328<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ground<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Hyper Cutter<br />
|move1=Sand-Attack|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Gust|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Sand Tomb|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Zigzagoon<br />
|ndex=263<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Pickup<br />
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Mud Sport|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Tail Whip|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Pursuit|move4type=Dark}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====St.Performer Scherla====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo St.Performer.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=St.Performer<br />
|name=Scherla<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Beldum<br />
|ndex=374<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Steel|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Clear Body<br />
|move1=Take Down|move1type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Machop<br />
|ndex=066<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Bulk Up|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Rock Smash|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Low Kick|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Scary Face|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Electrike<br />
|ndex=309<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Lightning Rod<br />
|move1=Thunder Wave|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Leer|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Uproar|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Horsea<br />
|ndex=116<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Swift Swim<br />
|move1=Smokescreen|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Agility|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Twister|move3type=Dragon<br />
|move4=Dive|move4type=Water}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Snorunt<br />
|ndex=361<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ice<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Inner Focus<br />
|move1=Leer|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Powder Snow|move2type=Ice<br />
|move3=Light Screen|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Bite|move4type=Dark}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Numel<br />
|ndex=322<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Oblivious<br />
|move1=Rollout|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Rock Smash|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Focus Energy|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Bandana Guy Delav====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Bandana Guy.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Bandana Guy<br />
|name=Delav<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Clamperl<br />
|ndex=366<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Shell Armor<br />
|move1=Clamp|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Whirlpool|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Supersonic|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Iron Defense|move4type=Steel}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Magnemite<br />
|ndex=081<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric|type2=Steel<br />
|ability=Magnet Pull<br />
|move1=Metal Sound|move1type=Steel<br />
|move2=ThunderShock|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Flash|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=SonicBoom|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Seedot<br />
|ndex=273<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Nature Power|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Synthesis|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Sunny Day|move4type=Fire}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Igglybuff<br />
|ndex=174<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Cute Charm<br />
|move1=Dig|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Pound|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Flash|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Charm|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Koffing<br />
|ndex=109<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Poison<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Smog|move1type=Poison<br />
|move2=Screech|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Destiny Bond|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Tackle|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Geodude<br />
|ndex=074<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Rock Head<br />
|move1=Defense Curl|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Rock Smash|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Rollout|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Block|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
===Normal===<br />
====Athlete Varian====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Athlete m.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Athlete<br />
|name=Varian<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Pikachu<br />
|ndex=025<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=ThunderShock|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Light Screen|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Reversal|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Thunder Wave|move4type=Electric}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Psyduck<br />
|ndex=054<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Damp<br />
|move1=Screech|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Psybeam|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Fury Swipes|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Disable|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Treecko<br />
|ndex=252<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Overgrow<br />
|move1=Mega Drain|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=Detect|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Pursuit|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=DragonBreath|move4type=Dragon}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Larvitar<br />
|ndex=246<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Bite|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Rock Smash|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Attract|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Leer|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Mudkip<br />
|ndex=258<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Torrent<br />
|move1=Mud-Slap|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Water Gun|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Growl|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Stomp|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Torchic<br />
|ndex=255<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Blaze<br />
|move1=Fire Spin|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Sand-Attack|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Scratch|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Swagger|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Rider Wendo====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Rider m.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Rider<br />
|name=Wendo<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Oddish<br />
|ndex=043<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Poison<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Chlorophyll<br />
|move1=Razor Leaf|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=Cut|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=PoisonPowder|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Acid|move4type=Poison}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Teddiursa<br />
|ndex=216<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Pickup<br />
|move1=Lick|move1type=Ghost<br />
|move2=Sleep Talk|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Rest|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Scratch|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Phanpy<br />
|ndex=231<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ground<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Pickup<br />
|move1=Flail|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Sunny Day|move2type=Fire<br />
|move3=Tackle|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Odor Sleuth|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Chikorita<br />
|ndex=152<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Overgrow<br />
|move1=Razor Leaf|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=GrassWhistle|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Bullet Seed|move4type=Grass}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Totodile<br />
|ndex=158<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Torrent<br />
|move1=Bite|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Rage|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Water Gun|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Mud Sport|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Cyndaquil<br />
|ndex=155<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Blaze<br />
|move1=Smokescreen|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Swift|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Flame Wheel|move3type=Fire<br />
|move4=Howl|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Fun Old Lady Karden====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Fun Old Lady.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Fun Old Lady<br />
|name=Karden<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Bagon<br />
|ndex=371<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Dragon<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Rock Head<br />
|move1=Dragon Rage|move1type=Dragon<br />
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Scary Face|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Toxic|move4type=Poison}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Chinchou<br />
|ndex=170<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Electric<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Illuminate<br />
|move1=Spark|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Supersonic|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Dive|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Charge|move4type=Electric}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Carvanha<br />
|ndex=318<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Dark<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Rough Skin<br />
|move1=Thief|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Swagger|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Rage|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Screech|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Grimer<br />
|ndex=088<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Poison<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Stench<br />
|move1=Taunt|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Giga Drain|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Sludge|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Disable|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Abra<br />
|ndex=063<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Psychic<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Synchronize<br />
|move1=Encore|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Torment|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Ice Punch|move3type=Ice<br />
|move4=Fire Punch|move4type=Fire}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Houndour<br />
|ndex=228<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Dark|type2=Fire<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Counter|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Faint Attack|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Ember|move3type=Fire<br />
|move4=Smog|move4type=Poison}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Researcher Raburn====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Researcher.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Researcher<br />
|classlink=Scientist (Trainer class)<br />
|name=Raburn<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Sentret<br />
|ndex=161<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Keen Eye<br />
|move1=Fury Swipes|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Defense Curl|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Water Pulse|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Helping Hand|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Vibrava<br />
|ndex=329<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ground|type2=Dragon<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Sand-Attack|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Faint Attack|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Bite|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=Quick Attack|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Rhyhorn<br />
|ndex=111<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ground|type2=Rock<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Rock Head<br />
|move1=Tail Whip|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Horn Attack|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Rock Tomb|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Toxic|move4type=Poison}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Delibird<br />
|ndex=225<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ice|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Vital Spirit<br />
|move1=Present|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Thief|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Aerial Ace|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Future Sight|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Voltorb<br />
|ndex=100<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Soundproof<br />
|move1=Mirror Coat|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Spark|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Rollout|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Light Screen|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Natu<br />
|ndex=177<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Psychic|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Future Sight|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Leer|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Confuse Ray|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Wish|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Cooltrainer Veron====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Cooltrainer f.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Cooltrainer<br />
|classlink=Ace Trainer (Trainer class)<br />
|name=Veron<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Graveler<br />
|ndex=075<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Rock Head<br />
|move1=Mud Sport|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Attract|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Rock Throw|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Dig|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Swablu<br />
|ndex=333<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Natural Cure<br />
|move1=Toxic|move1type=Poison<br />
|move2=Facade|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Light Screen|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Fly|move4type=Flying}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Plusle<br />
|ndex=311<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Plus<br />
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Spark|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Fake Tears|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=Thunder Wave|move4type=Electric}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Minun<br />
|ndex=312<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Minus<br />
|move1=Shock Wave|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Helping Hand|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Charm|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Substitute|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Wailmer<br />
|ndex=320<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Water Veil<br />
|move1=Rock Tomb|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Water Pulse|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Snore|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Rest|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Pupitar<br />
|ndex=247<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Shed Skin<br />
|move1=Bite|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Screech|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Stomp|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Scary Face|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Hunter Procio====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Hunter f.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Procio<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Ledian<br />
|ndex=166<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Silver Wind|move1type=Bug<br />
|move2=Swift|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Safeguard|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Toxic|move4type=Poison}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Torkoal<br />
|ndex=324<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=White Smoke<br />
|move1=Curse|move1type=???<br />
|move2=Amnesia|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Body Slam|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Fire Spin|move4type=Fire}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Chimecho<br />
|ndex=358<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Psychic<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Shock Wave|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Psywave|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Yawn|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Heal Bell|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Smeargle<br />
|ndex=235<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Own Tempo<br />
|move1=Icy Wind|move1type=Ice<br />
|move2=DragonBreath|move2type=Dragon<br />
|move3=Astonish|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Attract|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Sandslash<br />
|ndex=028<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Sand Veil<br />
|move1=Sand-Attack|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Sand Tomb|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Flail|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Dig|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Corsola<br />
|ndex=222<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|type2=Rock<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Hustle<br />
|move1=Confuse Ray|move1type=Ghost<br />
|move2=AncientPower|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=BubbleBeam|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Barrier|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Athlete Dilasi====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Athlete f.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Athlete<br />
|name=Dilasi<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Wooper<br />
|ndex=194<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Water Absorb<br />
|move1=Surf|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=AncientPower|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=Amnesia|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Mud Shot|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Gligar<br />
|ndex=207<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ground|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Sand Veil<br />
|move1=Sandstorm|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Metal Claw|move2type=Steel<br />
|move3=Screech|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Quick Attack|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Cacnea<br />
|ndex=331<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Sand Veil<br />
|move1=Needle Arm|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=Faint Attack|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Spikes|move3type=Ground<br />
|move4=Leech Seed|move4type=Grass}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Flaaffy<br />
|ndex=180<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Shock Wave|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Attract|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Cotton Spore|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Secret Power|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Swinub<br />
|ndex=220<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ice|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Oblivious<br />
|move1=Dig|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Sandstorm|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=Powder Snow|move3type=Ice<br />
|move4=Mist|move4type=Ice}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Numel<br />
|ndex=322<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Oblivious<br />
|move1=Ember|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Magnitude|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Rollout|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Sandstorm|move4type=Rock}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Chaser Klame====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Chaser m.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Klame<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Nosepass<br />
|ndex=299<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Rock<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Magnet Pull<br />
|move1=Rock Slide|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Thunder Wave|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Shock Wave|move3type=Electric<br />
|move4=Block|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Clamperl<br />
|ndex=366<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Shell Armor<br />
|move1=Iron Defense|move1type=Steel<br />
|move2=Attract|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Whirlpool|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Supersonic|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Machoke<br />
|ndex=067<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Seismic Toss|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Rolling Kick|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Bulk Up|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Attract|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Ariados<br />
|ndex=168<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Poison<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Insomnia<br />
|move1=Giga Drain|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=String Shot|move2type=Bug<br />
|move3=Toxic|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Pursuit|move4type=Dark}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Medicham<br />
|ndex=308<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fighting|type2=Psychic<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Pure Power<br />
|move1=Rock Tomb|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Confusion|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Attract|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Meditate|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Delcatty<br />
|ndex=301<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Cute Charm<br />
|move1=Helping Hand|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Toxic|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Assist|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Dig|move4type=Ground}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
===Hard===<br />
====Bodybuilder Bergin====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Bodybuilder m 1.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Bodybuilder<br />
|name=Bergin<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Furret<br />
|ndex=162<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Keen Eye<br />
|move1=Follow Me|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Helping Hand|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Brick Break|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Assist|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Medicham<br />
|ndex=308<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fighting|type2=Psychic<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Pure Power<br />
|move1=Fire Punch|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=ThunderPunch|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Ice Punch|move3type=Ice<br />
|move4=Calm Mind|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Marshtomp<br />
|ndex=259<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Torrent<br />
|move1=Mud Shot|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Muddy Water|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Curse|move3type=???<br />
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Xatu<br />
|ndex=178<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Psychic|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Refresh|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Psychic|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Giga Drain|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Calm Mind|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Zangoose<br />
|ndex=335<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Immunity<br />
|move1=Leer|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Slash|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Brick Break|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Aerial Ace|move4type=Flying}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Seviper<br />
|ndex=336<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Poison<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Shed Skin<br />
|move1=Glare|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Crunch|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Swagger|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Poison Tail|move4type=Poison}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Chaser Bano====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Chaser m.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Bano<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Misdreavus<br />
|ndex=200<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ghost<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Confuse Ray|move1type=Ghost<br />
|move2=Toxic|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Pain Split|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Shadow Ball|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Wobbuffet<br />
|ndex=202<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Psychic<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Shadow Tag<br />
|move1=Safeguard|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Counter|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Mirror Coat|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Destiny Bond|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Quagsire<br />
|ndex=195<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Damp<br />
|move1=Mud Shot|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Yawn|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Mud Sport|move3type=Ground<br />
|move4=Surf|move4type=Water}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Swellow<br />
|ndex=277<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Aerial Ace|move1type=Flying<br />
|move2=Steel Wing|move2type=Steel<br />
|move3=Double Team|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Supersonic|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Golbat<br />
|ndex=042<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Poison|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Inner Focus<br />
|move1=Confuse Ray|move1type=Ghost<br />
|move2=Shadow Ball|move2type=Ghost<br />
|move3=Poison Fang|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Wing Attack|move4type=Flying}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Sandslash<br />
|ndex=028<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Sand Veil<br />
|move1=Brick Break|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Crush Claw|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Sand-Attack|move3type=Ground<br />
|move4=Dig|move4type=Ground}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Guy Votil====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Guy.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Guy<br />
|name=Votil<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Kadabra<br />
|ndex=064<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Psychic<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Inner Focus<br />
|move1=Psybeam|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Shock Wave|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Disable|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Reflect|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Linoone<br />
|ndex=264<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Pickup<br />
|move1=Pin Missile|move1type=Bug<br />
|move2=Belly Drum|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Rest|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Fury Swipes|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Corsola<br />
|ndex=222<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Rock<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Hustle<br />
|move1=Rock Blast|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Amnesia|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Spike Cannon|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Surf|move4type=Water}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Ledian<br />
|ndex=166<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Silver Wind|move1type=Bug<br />
|move2=Light Screen|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Psybeam|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Dodrio<br />
|ndex=085<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Run Away<br />
|move1=Supersonic|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Tri Attack|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Aerial Ace|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Haze|move4type=Ice}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Piloswine<br />
|ndex=221<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ice|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Oblivious<br />
|move1=Blizzard|move1type=Ice<br />
|move2=Amnesia|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Mud Shot|move3type=Ground<br />
|move4=Mist|move4type=Ice}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Glasses Man Lopar====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Glasses Man.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Glasses Man<br />
|name=Lopar<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Mightyena<br />
|ndex=262<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Dark<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Crunch|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Swagger|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Yawn|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Shadow Ball|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Masquerain<br />
|ndex=284<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Psybeam|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=BubbleBeam|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Scary Face|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Silver Wind|move4type=Bug}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Hitmontop<br />
|ndex=237<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Counter|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Detect|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Strength|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Triple Kick|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Mawile<br />
|ndex=303<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Steel<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Tickle|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Iron Defense|move2type=Steel<br />
|move3=Baton Pass|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Swords Dance|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Granbull<br />
|ndex=210<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Take Down|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Rest|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Snore|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Crunch|move4type=Dark}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Stantler<br />
|ndex=234<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Stomp|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Calm Mind|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Extrasensory|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Hypnosis|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Hunter Alene====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Hunter f.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Alene<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Croconaw<br />
|ndex=159<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Torrent<br />
|move1=Waterfall<br />
|move2=Aerial Ace<br />
|move3=Crunch<br />
|move4=Leer}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Murkrow<br />
|ndex=198<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Dark|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Insomnia<br />
|move1=Faint Attack|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Sky Attack|move2type=Flying<br />
|move3=Haze|move3type=Ice<br />
|move4=Night Shade|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Pikachu<br />
|ndex=025<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Shock Wave|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Tail Whip|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Thunder Wave|mpve3type=Electric<br />
|move4=Focus Punch|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Muk<br />
|ndex=089<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Poison<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Sticky Hold<br />
|move1=Shadow Punch|move1type=Ghost<br />
|move2=Sludge Bomb|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Acid Armor|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Toxic|move4type=Poison}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Bellossom<br />
|ndex=182<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Chlorophyll<br />
|move1=Magical Leaf|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=Swords Dance|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Sludge Bomb|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Stun Spore|move4type=Grass}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Machoke<br />
|ndex=067<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Vital Throw|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Leer|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Earthquake|move3type=Ground<br />
|move4=Light Screen|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Worker Ronix====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Worker.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Worker<br />
|name=Ronix<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Combusken<br />
|ndex=256<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fire|type2=Fighting<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Blaze<br />
|move1=Bulk Up|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Slash|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Brick Break|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Fire Spin|move4type=Fire}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Tropius<br />
|ndex=357<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Chlorophyll<br />
|move1=Nature Power|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Giga Drain|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Aerial Ace|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Leer|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Kecleon<br />
|ndex=352<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Color Change<br />
|move1=Magic Coat|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Psybeam|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=AncientPower|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Slash|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Whiscash<br />
|ndex=340<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Oblivious<br />
|move1=Mud Sport|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Waterfall|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Spark|move3type=Electric<br />
|move4=Magnitude|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Sneasel<br />
|ndex=215<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Dark|type2=Ice<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Inner Focus<br />
|move1=Fake Out|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Icy Wind|move2type=Ice<br />
|move3=Beat Up|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=Faint Attack|move4type=Dark}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Swalot<br />
|ndex=317<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Poison<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Liquid Ooze<br />
|move1=Yawn|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Dream Eater|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Encore|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Sludge Bomb|move4type=Poison}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Athlete Mazzel====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Athlete f.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Athlete<br />
|name=Mazzel<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Quilava<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|ndex=156<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Blaze<br />
|move1=Flame Wheel|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Protect|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Crush Claw|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Brick Break|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Sealeo<br />
|ndex=364<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ice|type2=Water<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Thick Fat<br />
|move1=Aurora Beam|move1type=Ice<br />
|move2=Body Slam|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Rest|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Snore|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Girafarig<br />
|ndex=203<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Psychic<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Psybeam|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Crunch|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Rest|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Odor Sleuth|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Miltank<br />
|ndex=241<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Thick Fat<br />
|move1=Shadow Ball|move1type=Ghost<br />
|move2=Body Slam|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Rest|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Sleep Talk|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Golem<br />
|ndex=076<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Sturdy<br />
|move1=Selfdestruct|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Rock Tomb|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=Mud Sport|move3type=Ground<br />
|move4=Magnitude|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Bayleef<br />
|ndex=153<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Overgrow<br />
|move1=Body Slam|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Giga Drain|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=GrassWhistle|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Fun Old Lady Gohon====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Fun Old Lady.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Fun Old Lady<br />
|name=Gohon<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Raichu<br />
|ndex=026<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Thunder|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Thunder Wave|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Light Screen|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Reversal|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Golduck<br />
|ndex=055<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Damp<br />
|move1=Waterfall|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Psychic|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Tail Whip|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Disable|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Donphan<br />
|ndex=232<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ground<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Sturdy<br />
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Counter|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Defense Curl|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Rollout|move4type=Rock}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Pinsir<br />
|ndex=127<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Hyper Cutter<br />
|move1=Revenge|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Strength|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Toxic|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Swords Dance|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Grovyle<br />
|ndex=253<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Overgrow<br />
|move1=Giga Drain|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=DragonBreath|move2type=Dragon<br />
|move3=Safeguard|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Rain Dance|move4type=Water}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Wigglytuff<br />
|ndex=040<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Cute Charm<br />
|move1=Mimic|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Perish Song|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Body Slam|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Rollout|move4type=Rock}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
===Ultimate===<br />
====St.Performer Volivia====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo St.Performer.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=St.Performer<br />
|name=Volivia<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Heracross<br />
|ndex=214<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Fighting<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Facade|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Megahorn|move3type=Bug<br />
|move4=Brick Break|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Swellow<br />
|ndex=277<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Facade|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Aerial Ace|move2type=Flying<br />
|move3=Attract|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Milotic<br />
|ndex=350<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Marvel Scale<br />
|move1=Mirror Coat|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Hydro Pump|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Toxic|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Recover|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Ninjask<br />
|ndex=291<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Speed Boost<br />
|move1=Toxic|move1type=Poison<br />
|move2=Silver Wind|move2type=Bug<br />
|move3=Aerial Ace|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Weezing<br />
|ndex=110<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Poison<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Explosion|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Sludge Bomb|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Toxic|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Fire Blast|move4type=Fire}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Ninetales<br />
|ndex=038<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Flash Fire<br />
|move1=Overheat|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Protect|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Will-O-Wisp|move3type=Fire<br />
|move4=Confuse Ray|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Hunter Spez====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Hunter.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Spez<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Metagross<br />
|ndex=376<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Steel|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Clear Body<br />
|move1=Sandstorm|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Brick Break|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Meteor Mash|move3type=Steel<br />
|move4=Shadow Ball|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Cacturne<br />
|ndex=332<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Dark<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Sand Veil<br />
|move1=Spikes|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Faint Attack|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Needle Arm|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Focus Punch|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Shuckle<br />
|ndex=213<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Rock<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Sturdy<br />
|move1=Attract|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Wrap|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Toxic|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Rest|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Registeel<br />
|ndex=379<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Steel<br />
|ability=Clear Body<br />
|move1=Toxic|move1type=Poison<br />
|move2=Superpower|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Iron Defense|move3type=Steel<br />
|move4=Amnesia|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Cradily<br />
|ndex=346<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Grass<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Suction Cups<br />
|move1=Barrier|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Protect|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Confuse Ray|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Toxic|move4type=Poison}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Armaldo<br />
|ndex=348<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Bug<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Battle Armor<br />
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=AncientPower|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=Sandstorm|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Fury Cutter|move4type=Bug}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Guy Botken====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Guy.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Guy<br />
|name=Botken<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Sceptile<br />
|ndex=254<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Overgrow<br />
|move1=Leaf Blade|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=Crunch|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Dragon Claw|move3type=Dragon<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Granbull<br />
|ndex=210<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Earthquake|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Charm|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Metronome|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Swampert<br />
|ndex=260<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Torrent<br />
|move1=Curse|move1type=???<br />
|move2=Earthquake|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Return|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Rest|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Regirock<br />
|ndex=377<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Rock<br />
|ability=Clear Body<br />
|move1=Superpower|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=AncientPower|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=Curse|move3type=???<br />
|move4=Zap Cannon|move4type=Electric}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Skarmory<br />
|ndex=227<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Steel|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Keen Eye<br />
|move1=Drill Peck|move1type=Flying<br />
|move2=Toxic|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Swift|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Spikes|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Blaziken<br />
|ndex=257<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fire|type2=Fighting<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Blaze<br />
|move1=Blaze Kick|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Sunny Day|move2type=Fire<br />
|move3=Endure|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Reversal|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Hunter Bolza====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Hunter f.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Bolza<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Swellow<br />
|ndex=277<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Sky Attack|move1type=Flying<br />
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Hyper Beam|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Endeavor|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Hariyama<br />
|ndex=297<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Helping Hand|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Fake Out|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Seismic Toss|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Miltank<br />
|ndex=241<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Thick Fat<br />
|move1=Helping Hand|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Attract|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Shadow Ball|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Body Slam|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Alakazam<br />
|ndex=065<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Psychic<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Synchronize<br />
|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Fire Punch|move2type=Fire<br />
|move3=Ice Punch|move3type=Ice<br />
|move4=Role Play|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Jumpluff<br />
|ndex=189<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Chlorophyll<br />
|move1=Helping Hand|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Encore|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Tail Whip|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Cotton Spore|move4type=Grass}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Sharpedo<br />
|ndex=319<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Dark<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Rough Skin<br />
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Frustration|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Hydro Pump|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Swagger|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Supertrainer Neblek====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Supertrainer m 1.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Supertrainer<br />
|name=Neblek<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Starmie<br />
|ndex=121<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Natural Cure<br />
|move1=Waterfall|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Rain Dance|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Thunder|move3type=Electric<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Regice<br />
|ndex=378<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ice<br />
|ability=Clear Body<br />
|move1=Ice Beam|move1type=Ice<br />
|move2=Thunder|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Rest|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Rain Dance|move4type=Water}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Porygon2<br />
|ndex=233<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Trace<br />
|move1=Tri Attack|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Recover|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Recycle|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Thunder|move4type=Electric}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Electrode<br />
|ndex=101<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Soundproof<br />
|move1=Thunder|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Screech|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Protect|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Swift|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Magneton<br />
|ndex=082<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric|type2=Steel<br />
|ability=Magnet Pull<br />
|move1=Supersonic|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Thunder|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Screech|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Tri Attack|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Solrock<br />
|ndex=338<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Flamethrower|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Cosmic Power|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Psychic|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Reflect|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Fun Old Lady Flegal====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Fun Old Lady.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Fun Old Lady<br />
|name=Flegal<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Meganium<br />
|ndex=154<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Overgrow<br />
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Body Slam|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=SolarBeam|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Synthesis|move4type=Grass}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Typhlosion<br />
|ndex=157<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Blaze<br />
|move1=Focus Punch|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Flamethrower|move2type=Fire<br />
|move3=Earthquake|move3type=Ground<br />
|move4=Return|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Feraligatr<br />
|ndex=160<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Torrent<br />
|move1=AncientPower|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Earthquake|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Brick Break|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Return|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Espeon<br />
|ndex=196<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Psychic<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Synchronize<br />
|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Reflect|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Light Screen|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Attract|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Umbreon<br />
|ndex=197<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Dark<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Synchronize<br />
|move1=Helping Hand|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Toxic|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Sunny Day|move3type=Fire<br />
|move4=Confuse Ray|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Ursaring<br />
|ndex=217<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Slash|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Earthquake|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Brick Break|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Aerial Ace|move4type=Flying}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Fun Old Man Freyer====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Fun Old Man.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Fun Old Man<br />
|name=Freyer<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Rhydon<br />
|ndex=112<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ground|type2=Rock<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Lightning Rod<br />
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Megahorn|move2type=Bug<br />
|move3=Rock Blast|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Manectric<br />
|ndex=310<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Lightning Rod<br />
|move1=Thunderbolt|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Crunch|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Protect|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Roar|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Flygon<br />
|ndex=330<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ground|type2=Dragon<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Fire Blast|move2type=Fire<br />
|move3=Dragon Claw|move3type=Dragon<br />
|move4=Crunch|move4type=Dark}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Gyarados<br />
|ndex=130<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Return|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Dragon Dance|move3type=Dragon<br />
|move4=Hydro Pump|move4type=Water}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Mantine<br />
|ndex=226<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Water Absorb<br />
|move1=Double Team|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Toxic|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Dive|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Attract|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Dodrio<br />
|ndex=085<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Drill Peck|move2type=Flying<br />
|move3=Protect|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Haze|move4type=Ice}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Cooltrainer Desid====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Cooltrainer m.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Cooltrainer<br />
|classlink=Ace Trainer (Trainer class)<br />
|name=Desid<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Suicune<br />
|ndex=245<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|ability=Pressure<br />
|move1=Ice Beam|move1type=Ice<br />
|move2=Waterfall|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Rain Dance|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Raikou<br />
|ndex=243<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Pressure<br />
|move1=Thunderbolt|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Protect|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Leer|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Entei<br />
|ndex=244<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|ability=Pressure<br />
|move1=Fire Blast|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Protect|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=SolarBeam|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Sunny Day|move4type=Fire}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Aggron<br />
|ndex=306<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Steel|type2=Rock<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Rock Head<br />
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Iron Tail|move2type=Steel<br />
|move3=Double-Edge|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Rock Tomb|move4type=Rock}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Donphan<br />
|ndex=232<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ground<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Sturdy<br />
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Double-Edge|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=AncientPower|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Salamence<br />
|ndex=373<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Dragon|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Brick Break|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Aerial Ace|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Frustration|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
==Trivia==<br />
*The [[Original Trainer]] of the Pokémon the player uses is always the Trainer whose team they originally were, never the player's.<br />
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{{-}}<br />
{{Project Games notice|game mechanic}}<br />
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[[Category:Game mechanics]]<br />
[[Category:Pokémon Colosseum]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battle_Now_(Colosseum)&diff=2912134Talk:Battle Now (Colosseum)2019-01-13T05:15:41Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* Changing this Page and Adding a new page for Battle Now (Colosseum) */</p>
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<div>Wait a sec - I thought Battle Mode was in XD, too? Isn't that the multiplayer option? <span style="border: 1px dotted #D04634;">[[User:Jazzmoth|<span style="color:#0F5437">ʝɑzz</span><span style="color:#3E0F54">motɦ</span>]] [[User talk:Jazzmoth|<span style="color:#004AC8;"><sub>❝❞</sub>]][[Special:Contributions/Jazzmoth|✎</span>]]</span> 06:08, 27 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Actually, it isn't. I checked a couple of days ago, and that wasn't the name. [[User:Turtwig A|<font color="#CD7F32">Turtwig's</font>]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|<font color="#FF7F00">A-B-Cs</font>]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|<font color="#green">talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|<font color="#yellow">contribs</font>]]) 03:13, 11 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
::It's the same basic concept though, isn't it? In either case, it makes it sound like there is no battle option at all, no matter what the name is. <span style="border: 1px dotted #D04634;">[[User:Jazzmoth|<span style="color:#0F5437">ʝɑzz</span><span style="color:#3E0F54">motɦ</span>]] [[User talk:Jazzmoth|<span style="color:#004AC8;"><sub>❝❞</sub>]][[Special:Contributions/Jazzmoth|✎</span>]]</span> 19:23, 11 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Well there is one, called VS Mode, but I don't know if it should go in this article or what. [[User:Turtwig A|<font color="#CD7F32">Turtwig's</font>]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|<font color="#FF7F00">A-B-Cs</font>]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|<font color="#green">talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|<font color="#yellow">contribs</font>]]) 19:27, 11 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Changing this Page and Adding a new page for Battle Now (Colosseum) ==<br />
<br />
Unless I'm not allowed to, I'm going to take on this project and do it because Battle Now and Battle Mode are two very different things in this game, and at least for my own sake, I want it done correctly. [[User:ScottOshawott|ScottOshawott]] ([[User talk:ScottOshawott|talk]]) 04:56, 13 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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All the data has been moved to the new Battle Now (Colosseum) page. My plan is to change this page to be a hub for both the "Colosseum Battle" and "Battle Now," and then create a new page for the "Colosseum Battle," which will have much more detail for that side of things. [[User:ScottOshawott|ScottOshawott]] ([[User talk:ScottOshawott|talk]]) 05:15, 13 January 2019 (UTC)</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pok%C3%A9_Coupon&diff=2912133Talk:Poké Coupon2019-01-13T05:09:48Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* Where and How Many Coupons are Earned (GameCube Games) */ new section</p>
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<div>==Spending Poké Coupons==<br />
Could somebody add a table with information about the items that can be purchased with Poké Coupons? If that information is already on the wiki, it can be linked to this page. --[[User: CWallace |<span style="font-family:Georgia;color: CC0033">C. Wallace</span>]] <small>''[[User talk: CWallace |<span style="font-family:Georgia;color:blue ">TALK</span>]]''</small> 14:35, 23 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Where and How Many Coupons are Earned (GameCube Games) ==<br />
<br />
I would like to add tables to show how many Poké Coupons are earned in each Stadium, Mt. Battle area, etc., particularly the Stadiums in Battle Mode for Colosseum because, as far as I have been able to see, there is nowhere on this wiki with that info. It also would make it easy to look up how each location gives Coupons, while also allowing me or others to edit those sections that don't have those rewards listed. I'm guessing I need to use this section to make notes prior to putting any tables in the actual article to prevent incomplete things being posted. <br />
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==Colosseum (Battle Mode)==<br />
Phenac Stadium (Singles): 500 Coupons<br />
Phenac Stadium (Doubles): 500 Coupons<br />
Pyrite Colosseum (Singles): ??? Coupons<br />
Pyrite Colosseum (Doubles): ??? Coupons<br />
Under Colosseum (Singles): ??? Coupons<br />
Under Colosseum (Doubles): ??? Coupons<br />
Orre Colosseum (I don;t know how this one splits in the Lv. 50 versus Lv. 100, as in if they both have a Singles and Doubles option or just the level differences): ??? Coupons<br />
Tower Colosseum (Singles): ??? Coupons<br />
Tower Colosseum (Doubles): ??? Coupons<br />
Deep Colosseum (Singles): ??? Coupons<br />
Deep Colosseum (Doubles): ??? Coupons<br />
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[[User:ScottOshawott|ScottOshawott]] ([[User talk:ScottOshawott|talk]]) 05:09, 13 January 2019 (UTC)</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battle_Now_(Colosseum)&diff=2912132Talk:Battle Now (Colosseum)2019-01-13T05:02:07Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* Changing this Page and Adding a new page for Battle Now (Colosseum) */</p>
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<div>Wait a sec - I thought Battle Mode was in XD, too? Isn't that the multiplayer option? <span style="border: 1px dotted #D04634;">[[User:Jazzmoth|<span style="color:#0F5437">ʝɑzz</span><span style="color:#3E0F54">motɦ</span>]] [[User talk:Jazzmoth|<span style="color:#004AC8;"><sub>❝❞</sub>]][[Special:Contributions/Jazzmoth|✎</span>]]</span> 06:08, 27 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Actually, it isn't. I checked a couple of days ago, and that wasn't the name. [[User:Turtwig A|<font color="#CD7F32">Turtwig's</font>]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|<font color="#FF7F00">A-B-Cs</font>]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|<font color="#green">talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|<font color="#yellow">contribs</font>]]) 03:13, 11 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
::It's the same basic concept though, isn't it? In either case, it makes it sound like there is no battle option at all, no matter what the name is. <span style="border: 1px dotted #D04634;">[[User:Jazzmoth|<span style="color:#0F5437">ʝɑzz</span><span style="color:#3E0F54">motɦ</span>]] [[User talk:Jazzmoth|<span style="color:#004AC8;"><sub>❝❞</sub>]][[Special:Contributions/Jazzmoth|✎</span>]]</span> 19:23, 11 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Well there is one, called VS Mode, but I don't know if it should go in this article or what. [[User:Turtwig A|<font color="#CD7F32">Turtwig's</font>]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|<font color="#FF7F00">A-B-Cs</font>]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|<font color="#green">talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|<font color="#yellow">contribs</font>]]) 19:27, 11 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Changing this Page and Adding a new page for Battle Now (Colosseum) ==<br />
<br />
Unless I'm not allowed to, I'm going to take on this project and do it because Battle Now and Battle Mode are two very different things in this game, and at least for my own sake, I want it done correctly. [[User:ScottOshawott|ScottOshawott]] ([[User talk:ScottOshawott|talk]]) 04:56, 13 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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All the data has been moved to the new Battle Now (Colosseum) page. I will be pulling together info from other places to complete this page.[[User:ScottOshawott|ScottOshawott]] ([[User talk:ScottOshawott|talk]]) 05:02, 13 January 2019 (UTC)</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Battle_Now_(Colosseum)&diff=2912131Battle Now (Colosseum)2019-01-13T04:59:59Z<p>ScottOshawott: Moved all data from the Battle Mode (Colosseum) page to this new page in order to make the other page accurate to what it really should cover</p>
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<div>In [[Pokémon Colosseum]]'s '''Battle Now''' mode, the player may participate in quick battles that draw from a small set of predefined teams and opponents. The battles are set in [[Phenac Colosseum]] and the player can choose from four different battle difficulties, Easy, Normal, Hard, or Ultimate, and two battle types, Single or Double. For each difficulty level and each battle type there are eight possible opponents. When the player chooses to play, they are offered a team that corresponds to the team of one of these opponents, and if they accept that team, their opponent will be chosen from one of the remaining opponents.<br />
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The Battle Now opponents can also be found in the Battle Modes of [[Mt. Battle]]; they are entirely unchanged, with the exception that Trainers who were designated as {{tc|Area Leader}}s in Mt. Battle are instead classed as {{tc|Supertrainer}}s in Battle Now. Higher difficulty levels correspond to higher Mt. Battle Areas.<br />
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==Single Battles==<br />
{{incomplete|section|Each Single Battle Trainer should have full team data, like all the Trainers listed under Double Battles}}<br />
===Easy===<br />
{{trainerheader|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Rider m.png{{!}}70px|Rider|Eargle|None|6|172|Pichu|M|50|None|296|Makuhita|M|50|None|261|Poochyena|M|50|None|355|Duskull|F|50|None|273|Seedot|F|50|None|263|Zigzagoon|F|50|None|game=colo|36=ネビー|37=Nebi}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Lady.png{{!}}70px|Lady|Zoila|None|6|183|Marill|F|50|None|041|Zubat|M|50|None|339|Barboach|M|50|None|218|Slugma|F|50|None|165|Ledyba|M|50|None|300|Skitty|F|50|None|game=colo|36=オリエ|37=Orie}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Fun Old Man.png{{!}}70px|Fun Old Man|Grund|None|6|360|Wynaut|M|50|None|220|Swinub|F|50|None|161|Sentret|M|50|None|163|Hoothoot|F|50|None|281|Kirlia|F|50|None|278|Wingull|F|50|None|game=colo|36=カドン|37=Kadon}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Roller Boy.png{{!}}70px|Roller Boy|Gars|None|6|039|Jigglypuff|F|50|None|307|Meditite|M|50|None|363|Spheal|M|50|None|179|Mareep|F|50|None|074|Geodude|M|50|None|167|Spinarak|M|50|game=colo|36=ツリー|37=Tsuri}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Rider m.png{{!}}70px|Rider|Ladin|None|6|309|Electrike|M|50|None|037|Vulpix|F|50|None|287|Slakoth|M|50|None|204|Pineco|M|50|None|353|Shuppet|F|50|None|116|Horsea|M|50|None|game=colo|36=ツナミ|37=Tsunami}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Bodybuilder m 1.png{{!}}70px|Bodybuilder|Rapoz|None|6|285|Shroomish|M|50|None|293|Whismur|F|50|None|361|Snorunt|F|50|None|283|Surskit|F|50|None|025|Pikachu|M|50|None|027|Sandshrew|F|50|None|game=colo|36=シュミト|37=Shumito}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Rich Boy.png{{!}}75px|Rich Boy|Denc|None|6|155|Cyndaquil|M|50|None|063|Abra|M|50|None|084|Doduo|F|50|None|066|Machop|M|50|None|158|Totodile|M|50|None|333|Swablu|F|50|None|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Guy.png{{!}}90px|Guy|Ardo|None|6|325|Spoink|F|50|None|088|Grimer|M|50|None|290|Nincada|M|50|None|304|Aron|F|50|None|370|Luvdisc|F|50|None|228|Houndour|M|50|None|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerfooter|mountain|1}}<br />
<br />
===Normal===<br />
{{trainerheader|volcano}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Rider m.png{{!}}80px|Rider|Lohon|None|6|222|Corsola|F|50|Mago Berry|188|Skiploom|M|50|Iapapa Berry|067|Machoke|M|50|Shell Bell|311|Plusle|M|50|Lum Berry|267|Beautifly|M|50|Aguav Berry|264|Linoone|F|50|Chesto Berry|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerfooter|volcano|1}}<br />
<br />
====Slewis====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Trinch.png<br />
|size=80px<br />
|class=Area Leader<br />
|name=Slewis<br />
|prize= N/A<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=064<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Kadabra<br />
|type1=Psychic<br />
|level=50<br />
|gender=male<br />
|held=BrightPowder<br />
|ability=Synchronize<br />
|move1=Reflect|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Thief|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Confusion|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Role Play|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=303<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Mawile<br />
|type1=Steel<br />
|level=50<br />
|gender=male<br />
|held=Aguav Berry<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Fake Tears|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=ViceGrip|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Iron Defense|move4type=Steel}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=269<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Dustox<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Poison<br />
|level=50<br />
|gender=female<br />
|held=Leftovers<br />
|ability=Shield Dust<br />
|move1=Moonlight|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Psybeam|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Silver Wind|move3type=Bug<br />
|move4=Toxic|move4type=Poison}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=277<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Swellow<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|level=50<br />
|gender=female<br />
|held=Scope Lens<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Growl|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Wing Attack|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Double Team|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=253<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Grovyle<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|level=50<br />
|gender=male<br />
|held=Sitrus Berry<br />
|ability=Overgrow<br />
|move1=Leaf Blade|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=Screech|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Pursuit|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=False Swipe|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=259<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Marshtomp<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Ground<br />
|level=50<br />
|gender=male<br />
|held=Mystic Water<br />
|ability=Torrent<br />
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Water Gun|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Mud Shot|move3type=Ground<br />
|move4=Endeavor|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{trainerheader|volcano}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Hunter m.png{{!}}90px|Hunter|Gohn|None|6|312|Minun|F|50|Oran Berry|168|Ariados|M|50|Leppa Berry|111|Rhyhorn|F|50|Mental Herb|228|Houndour|M|50|BlackGlasses|341|Corphish|M|50|Figy Berry|202|Wobbuffet|M|50|Cheri Berry|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|volcano}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Glasses Man.png{{!}}80px|Glasses Man|Acron|None|6|361|Snorunt|F|50|NeverMeltIce|088|Grimer||50|Poison Barb|054|Psyduck||50|Mystic Water|081|Magnemite||50|Magnet|155|Cyndaquil|M|50|Scope Lens|246|Larvitar|M|50|Persim Berry|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|volcano}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Bodybuilder m 1.png{{!}}100px|Bodybuilder|Rawles|None|6|358|Chimecho|F|50|TwistedSpoon|084|Doduo|F|50|Oran Berry|063|Abra|M|50|Lum Berry|252|Treecko|M|50|Rawst Berry|100|Voltorb||50|Iapapa Berry|120|Staryu||50|BrightPowder|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|volcano}}<br />
{{trainerentry|XD Chaser m.png{{!}}110px|Chaser|Mandev|None|6|225|Delibird||50|Aguav Berry|180|Flaaffy||50|Lax Incense|325|Spoink||50|Chesto Berry|333|Swablu||50|Figy Berry|072|Tentacool||50|Oran Berry|322|Numel||50|Mago Berry|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerfooter|volcano|1}}<br />
====Cryal====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{water color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{water color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{water color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Supertrainer m 1.png{{!}}75px<br />
|class=Area Leader<br />
|name=Cryal<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=153<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Bayleef<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|level=50<br />
|gender=male<br />
|held=Leftovers<br />
|ability=Overgrow<br />
|move1=Razor Leaf|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=Body Slam|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Synthesis|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Giga Drain|move4type=Grass}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=156<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Quilava<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|level=50<br />
|gender=male<br />
|held=Persim Berry<br />
|ability=Blaze<br />
|move1=SmokeScreen|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Swift|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Flame Wheel|move3type=Fire<br />
|move4=Thrash|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=159<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Croconaw<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|level=50<br />
|gender=male<br />
|held=Aguav Berry<br />
|ability=Torrent<br />
|move1=Scary Face|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Waterfall|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Slash|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Bite|move4type=Dark}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{water color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=198<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Murkrow<br />
|type1=Dark|type2=Flying<br />
|level=50<br />
|gender=female<br />
|held=Lum Berry<br />
|ability=Insomnia<br />
|move1=Night Shade|move1type=Ghost<br />
|move2=Mirror Coat|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Faint Attack|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=Taunt|move4type=Dark}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=308<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Medicham<br />
|type1=Fighting|type2=Psychic<br />
|level=50<br />
|gender=female<br />
|held=Black Belt<br />
|ability=Pure Power<br />
|move1=Confusion|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Hi Jump Kick|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Meditate|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=ThunderPunch|move4type=Electric}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=364<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Sealeo<br />
|type1=Ice|type2=Water<br />
|level=50<br />
|gender=female<br />
|held=NeverMeltIce<br />
|ability=Thick Fat<br />
|move1=Aurora Beam|move1type=Ice<br />
|move2=Rest|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Snore|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Body Slam|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
{{trainerheader|volcano}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Athlete m.png{{!}}80px|Athlete|Gulor|None|6|351|Castform|F|50|Mystic Water|177|Natu|F|50|Mago Berry|320|Wailmer||50|Iapapa Berry|375|Metang||50|Metal Coat|372|Shelgon|M|50|Lum Berry|262|Mightyena|M|50|Liechi Berry|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|volcano}}<br />
{{trainerfooter|volcano|1}}<br />
===Hard===<br />
{{trainerheader|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Rich Boy.png{{!}}70px|Rich Boy|Benit|None|6|291|Ninjask||50|Aguav Berry|085|Dodrio||50|White Herb|357|Tropius||50|Leftovers|226|Mantine||50|Iapapa Berry|178|Xatu||50|Mago Berry|373|Salamence||50|Shell Bell|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Hunter m.png{{!}}80px|Hunter|Cewan|None|6|326|Grumpig||50|Lum Berry|297|Hariyama||50|Focus Band|210|Granbull||50|Figy Berry|354|Banette||50|Sitrus Berry|324|Torkoal||50|Lax Incense|026|Raichu||50|Shell Bell|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Fun Old Lady.png{{!}}80px|Fun Old Lady|Perstin|None|6|275|Shiftry||50|Scope Lens|101|Electrode||50|Magnet|295|Exploud||50|Iapapa Berry|073|Tentacruel||50|Mystic Water|076|Golem||50|Lum Berry|362|Glalie||50|NeverMeltIce|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Cooltrainer m.png{{!}}90px|Cooltrainer|Dazon|None|6|182|Bellossom||50|Miracle Seed|112|Rhydon||50|Lum Berry|368|Gorebyss||50|Aguav Berry|110|Weezing||50|Leftovers|082|Magneton||50|Magnet|065|Alakazam||50|TwistedSpoon|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Athlete f.png{{!}}90px|Athlete|Ziale|None|6|346|Cradily||50|Lax Incense|127|Pinsir||50|Shell Bell|348|Armaldo||50|Aguav Berry|241|Miltank||50|Lum Berry|344|Claydol||50|BrightPowder|321|Wailord||50|Liechi Berry|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Hunter m.png{{!}}80px|Hunter|Corvin|None|6|232|Donphan||50|Mental Herb|055|Golduck||50|Lum Berry|335|Zangoose||50|Liechi Berry|181|Ampharos||50|Sitrus Berry|214|Heracross||50|Scope Lens|229|Houndoom||50|Iapapa Berry|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Glasses Man.png{{!}}80px|Glasses Man|Dunor|None|6|089|Muk||50|Poison Barb|319|Sharpedo||50|Persim Berry|038|Ninetales||50|Quick Claw|233|Porygon2||50|Sitrus Berry|068|Machamp||50|Iapapa Berry|282|Gardevoir||50|White Herb|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerfooter|mountain|1}}<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{water color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{water color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{water color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Trinch.png{{!}}80px<br />
|class=Area Leader<br />
|name=Vario<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre Colosseum<br />
|pokemon=6<br />
}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=289<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Slaking<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|level=50|gender=<br />
|held=Lum Berry<br />
|ability=Truant<br />
|move1=Body Slam|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Faint Attack|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Counter|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Slack Off|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=130<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Gyarados<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Flying<br />
|level=50|gender=|held=Persim Berry<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Thrash|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Dragon Dance|move3type=Dragon<br />
|move4=Waterfall|move4type=Water}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=306<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Aggron<br />
|type1=Steel|type2=Rock<br />
|level=50|gender=|held=Metal Coat<br />
|ability=Sturdy<br />
|move1=Iron Defense|move1type=Steel<br />
|move2=Metal Claw|move2type=Steel<br />
|move3=Roar|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{water color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=365<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Walrein<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Ice<br />
|level=50|gender=|held=Leftovers<br />
|ability=Thick Fat<br />
|move1=Body Slam|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Aurora Beam|move2type=Ice<br />
|move3=Hail|move3type=Ice<br />
|move4=Water Pulse|move4type=Water}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=310<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Manectric<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|level=50|gender=|held=Scope Lens<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Spark|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Bite|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=Iron Tail|move4type=Steel}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|ndex=332<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Cacturne<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Dark<br />
|level=50|gender=|held=BrightPowder<br />
|ability=Sand Veil<br />
|move1=Sandstorm|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Leech Seed|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Faint Attack|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=Needle Arm|move4type=Grass}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
===Ultimate===<br />
{{trainerheader|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Rider m.png{{!}}80px|Rider|Rebin|None|6|257|Blaziken||50|Black Belt|045|Vileplume||50|Persim Berry|171|Lanturn||50|Leftovers|362|Glalie||50|NeverMeltIce|210|Granbull||50|Aspear Berry|354|Banette||50|Spell Tag|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Cooltrainer m.png{{!}}90px|Cooltrainer|Cruik|N/A|6|244|Entei||50|Persim Berry|076|Golem||50|Figy Berry|089|Muk||50|Poison Barb|324|Torkoal||50|Focus Band|310|Manectric||50|Magnet|073|Tentacruel||50|Mystic Water|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Hunter m.png{{!}}90px|Hunter|Parel|N/A|6|260|Swampert||50|Scope Lens|065|Alakazam||50|TwistedSpoon|272|Ludicolo||50|King's Rock|365|Walrein||50|Iapapa Berry|055|Golduck||50|Lax Incense|295|Exploud||50|Silk Scarf|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Athlete f.png{{!}}90px|Athlete|Nomol|N/A|6|243|Raikou||50|Magnet|038|Ninetales||50|White Herb|110|Weezing||50|Poison Barb|213|Shuckle||50|Lax Incense|348|Armaldo||50|Scope Lens|178|Xatu||50|BrightPowder|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Fun Old Lady.png{{!}}90px|Fun Old Lady|Desor|N/A|6|154|Meganium||50|Sitrus Berry|157|Typhlosion||50|Focus Band|160|Feraligatr||50|Scope Lens|196|Espeon||50|BrightPowder|197|Umbreon||50|Leftovers|127|Pinsir||50|Lum Berry|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Bodybuilder f.png{{!}}110px|Bodybuilder|Eldora|N/A|6|245|Suicune||50|BrightPowder|181|Ampharos||50|Magnet|344|Claydol||50|Liechi Berry|234|Stantler||50|Lax Incense|233|Porygon2||50|Scope Lens|232|Donphan||50|Focus Band|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Hunter m.png{{!}}90px|Hunter|Lisan|N/A|6|376|Metagross||50|Metal Coat|346|Cradily||50|Hard Stone|068|Machamp||50|Black Belt|227|Skarmory||50|Sharp Beak|112|Rhydon||50|Soft Sand|297|Hariyama||50|Chesto Berry|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|mountain}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Cooltrainer f.png{{!}}70px|Cooltrainer|Tynan|N/A|6|214|Heracross||50|Salac Berry|202|Wobbuffet||50|Wiki Berry|350|Milotic|F|50|Leftovers|085|Dodrio||50|Scope Lens|332|Cacturne||50|BrightPowder|302|Sableye||50|Lum Berry|game=colo}}<br />
{{trainerfooter|mountain|1}}<br />
<br />
==Double Battles==<br />
===Easy===<br />
====Rich Boy Brot====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Rich Boy.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Rich Boy<br />
|name=Brot<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Poochyena<br />
|ndex=261<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Dark<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Run Away<br />
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Thief|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Roar|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Yawn|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Pineco<br />
|ndex=204<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Sturdy<br />
|move1=Spikes|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Rapid Spin|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Toxic|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Pin Missile|move4type=Bug}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Swinub<br />
|ndex=220<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ice|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Oblivious<br />
|move1=Amnesia|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Powder Snow|move2type=Ice<br />
|move3=Roar|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Rock Smash|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Sandshrew<br />
|ndex=027<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Sand Veil<br />
|move1=Sandstorm|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Defense Curl|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Scratch|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Fury Swipes|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Slakoth<br />
|ndex=287<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Truant<br />
|move1=Yawn|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Rest|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Snore|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Toxic|move4type=Poison}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Mareep<br />
|ndex=179<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Growl|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Tackle|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Cotton Spore|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=ThunderShock|move4type=Electric}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Teacher Keeda====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Teacher.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Teacher<br />
|name=Keeda<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6<br />
}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Ralts<br />
|ndex=280<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Psychic<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Trace<br />
|move1=Reflect|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Dream Eater|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Confusion|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Calm Mind|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Shroomish<br />
|ndex=285<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Effect Spore<br />
|move1=Spore|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=Absorb|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Bullet Seed|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Tackle|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Sentret<br />
|ndex=161<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Keen Eye<br />
|move1=Rest|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Defense Curl|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Amnesia|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Assist|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Vulpix<br />
|ndex=037<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Flash Fire<br />
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Ember|move2type=Fire<br />
|move3=Attract|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Will-O-Wisp|move4type=Fire}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Duskull<br />
|ndex=355<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ghost<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Confuse Ray|move1type=Ghost<br />
|move2=Astonish|move2type=Ghost<br />
|move3=Disable|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Curse|move4type=???}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Spinarak<br />
|ndex=167<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Poison<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Insomnia<br />
|move1=Poison Sting|move1type=Poison<br />
|move2=Night Shade|move2type=Ghost<br />
|move3=Spider Web|move3type=Bug<br />
|move4=Leech Life|move4type=Bug}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Athlete Pasha====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Athlete f.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Athlete<br />
|name=Pasha<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6<br />
}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Whismur<br />
|ndex=293<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Soundproof<br />
|move1=Supersonic|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Astonish|move2type=Ghost<br />
|move3=Screech|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Pound|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Shuppet<br />
|ndex=353<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ghost<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Insomnia<br />
|move1=Will-O-Wisp|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Astonish|move2type=Ghost<br />
|move3=Destiny Bond|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Knock Off|move4type=Dark}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Slugma<br />
|ndex=218<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Magma Armor<br />
|move1=Rock Smash|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Ember|move2type=Fire<br />
|move3=Light Screen|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Smog|move4type=Poison}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Nincada<br />
|ndex=290<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Compound Eyes<br />
|move1=Sunny Day|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Gust|move2type=Flying<br />
|move3=Metal Claw|move3type=Steel<br />
|move4=Mud-Slap|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Barboach<br />
|ndex=339<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Oblivious<br />
|move1=Mud-Slap|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Water Gun|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Future Sight|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Amnesia|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Meditite<br />
|ndex=307<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fighting|type2=Psychic<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Pure Power<br />
|move1=Meditate|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Hidden Power|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Reversal|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Fake Out|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Glasses Man Bayel====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Glasses Man.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Glasses Man<br />
|name=Bayel<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Pichu<br />
|ndex=172<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Thunder Wave|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=ThunderShock|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Sweet Kiss|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=DoubleSlap|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Baltoy<br />
|ndex=343<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ground|type2=Psychic<br />
|gender=both<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Mud-Slap|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Cosmic Power|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Skill Swap|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Rapid Spin|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Lotad<br />
|ndex=270<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Grass<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Rain Dish<br />
|move1=Water Gun|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Mega Drain|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Growl|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Mist|move4type=Ice}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Snubbull<br />
|ndex=209<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Rage|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Charm|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Lick|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Ledyba<br />
|ndex=165<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Swarm<br />
|move1=Supersonic|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Thief|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Flash|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Comet Punch|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Marill<br />
|ndex=183<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Huge Power<br />
|move1=Rollout|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Light Screen|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Water Gun|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Defense Curl|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Rider Mayme====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Rider f.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Rider<br />
|name=Mayme<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Sunkern<br />
|ndex=191<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Chlorophyll<br />
|move1=Synthesis|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=Growth|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Leech Seed|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=SolarBeam|move4type=Grass}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Togepi<br />
|ndex=175<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Hustle<br />
|move1=Yawn|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Follow Me|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Sunny Day|move3type=Fire<br />
|move4=Peck|move4type=Flying}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Wurmple<br />
|ndex=265<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Shield Dust<br />
|move1=String Shot|move1type=Bug<br />
|move2=Poison Sting|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Tackle|move3type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Aron<br />
|ndex=304<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Steel|type2=Rock<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Rock Head<br />
|move1=Protect|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Tackle|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Toxic|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Mud-Slap|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Shedinja<br />
|ndex=292<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Ghost<br />
|ability=Wonder Guard<br />
|move1=Scratch|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Leech Life|move2type=Bug<br />
|move3=Metal Claw|move3type=Steel<br />
|move4=Grudge|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Makuhita<br />
|ndex=296<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Fake Out|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Tackle|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Arm Thrust|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Knock Off|move4type=Dark}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Cooltrainer Shadd====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Cooltrainer m.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Cooltrainer<br />
|classlink=Ace Trainer (Trainer class)<br />
|name=Shadd<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Skitty<br />
|ndex=300<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Cute Charm<br />
|move1=Helping Hand|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Assist|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Covet|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Growl|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Jigglypuff<br />
|ndex=039<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Cute Charm<br />
|move1=Sing|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Pound|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Fake Tears|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=DoubleSlap|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Kirlia<br />
|ndex=281<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Psychic<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Synchronize<br />
|move1=Double Team|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Calm Mind|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Thief|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=Future Sight|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Surskit<br />
|ndex=283<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Water<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Swift Swim<br />
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Bubble|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Toxic|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Attract|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Trapinch<br />
|ndex=328<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ground<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Hyper Cutter<br />
|move1=Sand-Attack|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Gust|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Sand Tomb|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Zigzagoon<br />
|ndex=263<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Pickup<br />
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Mud Sport|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Tail Whip|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Pursuit|move4type=Dark}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====St.Performer Scherla====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo St.Performer.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=St.Performer<br />
|name=Scherla<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Beldum<br />
|ndex=374<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Steel|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Clear Body<br />
|move1=Take Down|move1type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Machop<br />
|ndex=066<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Bulk Up|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Rock Smash|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Low Kick|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Scary Face|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Electrike<br />
|ndex=309<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Lightning Rod<br />
|move1=Thunder Wave|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Leer|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Uproar|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Horsea<br />
|ndex=116<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Swift Swim<br />
|move1=Smokescreen|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Agility|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Twister|move3type=Dragon<br />
|move4=Dive|move4type=Water}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Snorunt<br />
|ndex=361<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ice<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Inner Focus<br />
|move1=Leer|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Powder Snow|move2type=Ice<br />
|move3=Light Screen|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Bite|move4type=Dark}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Numel<br />
|ndex=322<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Oblivious<br />
|move1=Rollout|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Rock Smash|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Focus Energy|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Bandana Guy Delav====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Bandana Guy.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Bandana Guy<br />
|name=Delav<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Clamperl<br />
|ndex=366<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Shell Armor<br />
|move1=Clamp|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Whirlpool|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Supersonic|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Iron Defense|move4type=Steel}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Magnemite<br />
|ndex=081<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric|type2=Steel<br />
|ability=Magnet Pull<br />
|move1=Metal Sound|move1type=Steel<br />
|move2=ThunderShock|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Flash|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=SonicBoom|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Seedot<br />
|ndex=273<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Nature Power|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Synthesis|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Sunny Day|move4type=Fire}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Igglybuff<br />
|ndex=174<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Cute Charm<br />
|move1=Dig|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Pound|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Flash|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Charm|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Koffing<br />
|ndex=109<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Poison<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Smog|move1type=Poison<br />
|move2=Screech|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Destiny Bond|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Tackle|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Geodude<br />
|ndex=074<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Rock Head<br />
|move1=Defense Curl|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Rock Smash|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Rollout|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Block|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
===Normal===<br />
====Athlete Varian====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Athlete m.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Athlete<br />
|name=Varian<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Pikachu<br />
|ndex=025<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=ThunderShock|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Light Screen|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Reversal|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Thunder Wave|move4type=Electric}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Psyduck<br />
|ndex=054<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Damp<br />
|move1=Screech|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Psybeam|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Fury Swipes|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Disable|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Treecko<br />
|ndex=252<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Overgrow<br />
|move1=Mega Drain|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=Detect|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Pursuit|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=DragonBreath|move4type=Dragon}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Larvitar<br />
|ndex=246<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Bite|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Rock Smash|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Attract|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Leer|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Mudkip<br />
|ndex=258<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Torrent<br />
|move1=Mud-Slap|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Water Gun|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Growl|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Stomp|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Torchic<br />
|ndex=255<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Blaze<br />
|move1=Fire Spin|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Sand-Attack|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Scratch|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Swagger|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Rider Wendo====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Rider m.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Rider<br />
|name=Wendo<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Oddish<br />
|ndex=043<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Poison<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Chlorophyll<br />
|move1=Razor Leaf|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=Cut|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=PoisonPowder|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Acid|move4type=Poison}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Teddiursa<br />
|ndex=216<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Pickup<br />
|move1=Lick|move1type=Ghost<br />
|move2=Sleep Talk|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Rest|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Scratch|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Phanpy<br />
|ndex=231<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ground<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Pickup<br />
|move1=Flail|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Sunny Day|move2type=Fire<br />
|move3=Tackle|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Odor Sleuth|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Chikorita<br />
|ndex=152<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Overgrow<br />
|move1=Razor Leaf|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=GrassWhistle|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Bullet Seed|move4type=Grass}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Totodile<br />
|ndex=158<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Torrent<br />
|move1=Bite|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Rage|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Water Gun|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Mud Sport|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Cyndaquil<br />
|ndex=155<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Blaze<br />
|move1=Smokescreen|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Swift|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Flame Wheel|move3type=Fire<br />
|move4=Howl|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Fun Old Lady Karden====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Fun Old Lady.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Fun Old Lady<br />
|name=Karden<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Bagon<br />
|ndex=371<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Dragon<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Rock Head<br />
|move1=Dragon Rage|move1type=Dragon<br />
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Scary Face|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Toxic|move4type=Poison}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Chinchou<br />
|ndex=170<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Electric<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Illuminate<br />
|move1=Spark|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Supersonic|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Dive|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Charge|move4type=Electric}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Carvanha<br />
|ndex=318<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Dark<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Rough Skin<br />
|move1=Thief|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Swagger|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Rage|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Screech|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Grimer<br />
|ndex=088<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Poison<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Stench<br />
|move1=Taunt|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Giga Drain|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Sludge|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Disable|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Abra<br />
|ndex=063<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Psychic<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Synchronize<br />
|move1=Encore|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Torment|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Ice Punch|move3type=Ice<br />
|move4=Fire Punch|move4type=Fire}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Houndour<br />
|ndex=228<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Dark|type2=Fire<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Counter|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Faint Attack|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Ember|move3type=Fire<br />
|move4=Smog|move4type=Poison}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Researcher Raburn====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Researcher.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Researcher<br />
|classlink=Scientist (Trainer class)<br />
|name=Raburn<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Sentret<br />
|ndex=161<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Keen Eye<br />
|move1=Fury Swipes|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Defense Curl|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Water Pulse|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Helping Hand|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Vibrava<br />
|ndex=329<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ground|type2=Dragon<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Sand-Attack|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Faint Attack|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Bite|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=Quick Attack|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Rhyhorn<br />
|ndex=111<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ground|type2=Rock<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Rock Head<br />
|move1=Tail Whip|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Horn Attack|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Rock Tomb|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Toxic|move4type=Poison}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Delibird<br />
|ndex=225<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ice|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Vital Spirit<br />
|move1=Present|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Thief|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Aerial Ace|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Future Sight|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Voltorb<br />
|ndex=100<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Soundproof<br />
|move1=Mirror Coat|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Spark|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Rollout|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Light Screen|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Natu<br />
|ndex=177<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Psychic|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Future Sight|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Leer|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Confuse Ray|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Wish|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Cooltrainer Veron====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Cooltrainer f.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Cooltrainer<br />
|classlink=Ace Trainer (Trainer class)<br />
|name=Veron<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Graveler<br />
|ndex=075<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Rock Head<br />
|move1=Mud Sport|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Attract|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Rock Throw|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Dig|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Swablu<br />
|ndex=333<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Natural Cure<br />
|move1=Toxic|move1type=Poison<br />
|move2=Facade|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Light Screen|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Fly|move4type=Flying}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Plusle<br />
|ndex=311<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Plus<br />
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Spark|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Fake Tears|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=Thunder Wave|move4type=Electric}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Minun<br />
|ndex=312<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Minus<br />
|move1=Shock Wave|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Helping Hand|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Charm|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Substitute|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Wailmer<br />
|ndex=320<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Water Veil<br />
|move1=Rock Tomb|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Water Pulse|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Snore|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Rest|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Pupitar<br />
|ndex=247<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Shed Skin<br />
|move1=Bite|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Screech|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Stomp|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Scary Face|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Hunter Procio====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Hunter f.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Procio<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Ledian<br />
|ndex=166<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Silver Wind|move1type=Bug<br />
|move2=Swift|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Safeguard|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Toxic|move4type=Poison}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Torkoal<br />
|ndex=324<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=White Smoke<br />
|move1=Curse|move1type=???<br />
|move2=Amnesia|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Body Slam|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Fire Spin|move4type=Fire}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Chimecho<br />
|ndex=358<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Psychic<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Shock Wave|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Psywave|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Yawn|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Heal Bell|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Smeargle<br />
|ndex=235<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Own Tempo<br />
|move1=Icy Wind|move1type=Ice<br />
|move2=DragonBreath|move2type=Dragon<br />
|move3=Astonish|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Attract|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Sandslash<br />
|ndex=028<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Sand Veil<br />
|move1=Sand-Attack|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Sand Tomb|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Flail|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Dig|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Corsola<br />
|ndex=222<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|type2=Rock<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Hustle<br />
|move1=Confuse Ray|move1type=Ghost<br />
|move2=AncientPower|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=BubbleBeam|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Barrier|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Athlete Dilasi====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Athlete f.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Athlete<br />
|name=Dilasi<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Wooper<br />
|ndex=194<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Water Absorb<br />
|move1=Surf|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=AncientPower|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=Amnesia|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Mud Shot|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Gligar<br />
|ndex=207<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ground|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Sand Veil<br />
|move1=Sandstorm|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Metal Claw|move2type=Steel<br />
|move3=Screech|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Quick Attack|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Cacnea<br />
|ndex=331<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Sand Veil<br />
|move1=Needle Arm|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=Faint Attack|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Spikes|move3type=Ground<br />
|move4=Leech Seed|move4type=Grass}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Flaaffy<br />
|ndex=180<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Shock Wave|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Attract|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Cotton Spore|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Secret Power|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Swinub<br />
|ndex=220<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ice|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Oblivious<br />
|move1=Dig|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Sandstorm|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=Powder Snow|move3type=Ice<br />
|move4=Mist|move4type=Ice}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Numel<br />
|ndex=322<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Oblivious<br />
|move1=Ember|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Magnitude|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Rollout|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Sandstorm|move4type=Rock}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Chaser Klame====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Chaser m.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Klame<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Nosepass<br />
|ndex=299<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Rock<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Magnet Pull<br />
|move1=Rock Slide|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Thunder Wave|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Shock Wave|move3type=Electric<br />
|move4=Block|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Clamperl<br />
|ndex=366<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Shell Armor<br />
|move1=Iron Defense|move1type=Steel<br />
|move2=Attract|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Whirlpool|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Supersonic|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Machoke<br />
|ndex=067<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Seismic Toss|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Rolling Kick|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Bulk Up|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Attract|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Ariados<br />
|ndex=168<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Poison<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Insomnia<br />
|move1=Giga Drain|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=String Shot|move2type=Bug<br />
|move3=Toxic|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Pursuit|move4type=Dark}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Medicham<br />
|ndex=308<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fighting|type2=Psychic<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Pure Power<br />
|move1=Rock Tomb|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Confusion|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Attract|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Meditate|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Delcatty<br />
|ndex=301<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Cute Charm<br />
|move1=Helping Hand|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Toxic|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Assist|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Dig|move4type=Ground}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
===Hard===<br />
====Bodybuilder Bergin====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Bodybuilder m 1.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Bodybuilder<br />
|name=Bergin<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Furret<br />
|ndex=162<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Keen Eye<br />
|move1=Follow Me|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Helping Hand|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Brick Break|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Assist|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Medicham<br />
|ndex=308<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fighting|type2=Psychic<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Pure Power<br />
|move1=Fire Punch|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=ThunderPunch|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Ice Punch|move3type=Ice<br />
|move4=Calm Mind|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Marshtomp<br />
|ndex=259<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Torrent<br />
|move1=Mud Shot|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Muddy Water|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Curse|move3type=???<br />
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Xatu<br />
|ndex=178<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Psychic|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Refresh|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Psychic|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Giga Drain|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Calm Mind|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Zangoose<br />
|ndex=335<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Immunity<br />
|move1=Leer|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Slash|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Brick Break|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Aerial Ace|move4type=Flying}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Seviper<br />
|ndex=336<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Poison<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Shed Skin<br />
|move1=Glare|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Crunch|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Swagger|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Poison Tail|move4type=Poison}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Chaser Bano====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Chaser m.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Chaser<br />
|name=Bano<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Misdreavus<br />
|ndex=200<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ghost<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Confuse Ray|move1type=Ghost<br />
|move2=Toxic|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Pain Split|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Shadow Ball|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Wobbuffet<br />
|ndex=202<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Psychic<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Shadow Tag<br />
|move1=Safeguard|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Counter|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Mirror Coat|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Destiny Bond|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Quagsire<br />
|ndex=195<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Damp<br />
|move1=Mud Shot|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Yawn|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Mud Sport|move3type=Ground<br />
|move4=Surf|move4type=Water}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Swellow<br />
|ndex=277<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Aerial Ace|move1type=Flying<br />
|move2=Steel Wing|move2type=Steel<br />
|move3=Double Team|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Supersonic|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Golbat<br />
|ndex=042<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Poison|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Inner Focus<br />
|move1=Confuse Ray|move1type=Ghost<br />
|move2=Shadow Ball|move2type=Ghost<br />
|move3=Poison Fang|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Wing Attack|move4type=Flying}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Sandslash<br />
|ndex=028<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Sand Veil<br />
|move1=Brick Break|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Crush Claw|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Sand-Attack|move3type=Ground<br />
|move4=Dig|move4type=Ground}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Guy Votil====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Guy.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Guy<br />
|name=Votil<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Kadabra<br />
|ndex=064<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Psychic<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Inner Focus<br />
|move1=Psybeam|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Shock Wave|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Disable|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Reflect|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Linoone<br />
|ndex=264<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Pickup<br />
|move1=Pin Missile|move1type=Bug<br />
|move2=Belly Drum|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Rest|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Fury Swipes|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Corsola<br />
|ndex=222<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Rock<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Hustle<br />
|move1=Rock Blast|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Amnesia|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Spike Cannon|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Surf|move4type=Water}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Ledian<br />
|ndex=166<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Silver Wind|move1type=Bug<br />
|move2=Light Screen|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Psybeam|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Dodrio<br />
|ndex=085<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Run Away<br />
|move1=Supersonic|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Tri Attack|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Aerial Ace|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Haze|move4type=Ice}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Piloswine<br />
|ndex=221<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ice|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Oblivious<br />
|move1=Blizzard|move1type=Ice<br />
|move2=Amnesia|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Mud Shot|move3type=Ground<br />
|move4=Mist|move4type=Ice}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Glasses Man Lopar====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Glasses Man.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Glasses Man<br />
|name=Lopar<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Mightyena<br />
|ndex=262<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Dark<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Crunch|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Swagger|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Yawn|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Shadow Ball|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Masquerain<br />
|ndex=284<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Psybeam|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=BubbleBeam|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Scary Face|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Silver Wind|move4type=Bug}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Hitmontop<br />
|ndex=237<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Counter|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Detect|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Strength|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Triple Kick|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Mawile<br />
|ndex=303<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Steel<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Tickle|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Iron Defense|move2type=Steel<br />
|move3=Baton Pass|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Swords Dance|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Granbull<br />
|ndex=210<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Take Down|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Rest|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Snore|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Crunch|move4type=Dark}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Stantler<br />
|ndex=234<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Stomp|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Calm Mind|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Extrasensory|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Hypnosis|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Hunter Alene====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Hunter f.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Alene<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Croconaw<br />
|ndex=159<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Torrent<br />
|move1=Waterfall<br />
|move2=Aerial Ace<br />
|move3=Crunch<br />
|move4=Leer}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Murkrow<br />
|ndex=198<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Dark|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Insomnia<br />
|move1=Faint Attack|move1type=Dark<br />
|move2=Sky Attack|move2type=Flying<br />
|move3=Haze|move3type=Ice<br />
|move4=Night Shade|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Pikachu<br />
|ndex=025<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Shock Wave|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Tail Whip|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Thunder Wave|mpve3type=Electric<br />
|move4=Focus Punch|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Muk<br />
|ndex=089<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Poison<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Sticky Hold<br />
|move1=Shadow Punch|move1type=Ghost<br />
|move2=Sludge Bomb|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Acid Armor|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Toxic|move4type=Poison}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Bellossom<br />
|ndex=182<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Chlorophyll<br />
|move1=Magical Leaf|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=Swords Dance|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Sludge Bomb|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Stun Spore|move4type=Grass}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Machoke<br />
|ndex=067<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Vital Throw|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Leer|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Earthquake|move3type=Ground<br />
|move4=Light Screen|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Worker Ronix====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Worker.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Worker<br />
|name=Ronix<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Combusken<br />
|ndex=256<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fire|type2=Fighting<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Blaze<br />
|move1=Bulk Up|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Slash|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Brick Break|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Fire Spin|move4type=Fire}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Tropius<br />
|ndex=357<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Chlorophyll<br />
|move1=Nature Power|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Giga Drain|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=Aerial Ace|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Leer|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Kecleon<br />
|ndex=352<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Color Change<br />
|move1=Magic Coat|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Psybeam|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=AncientPower|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Slash|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Whiscash<br />
|ndex=340<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Oblivious<br />
|move1=Mud Sport|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Waterfall|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Spark|move3type=Electric<br />
|move4=Magnitude|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Sneasel<br />
|ndex=215<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Dark|type2=Ice<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Inner Focus<br />
|move1=Fake Out|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Icy Wind|move2type=Ice<br />
|move3=Beat Up|move3type=Dark<br />
|move4=Faint Attack|move4type=Dark}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Swalot<br />
|ndex=317<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Poison<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Liquid Ooze<br />
|move1=Yawn|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Dream Eater|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Encore|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Sludge Bomb|move4type=Poison}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Athlete Mazzel====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Athlete f.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Athlete<br />
|name=Mazzel<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|pokemon=Quilava<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|ndex=156<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Blaze<br />
|move1=Flame Wheel|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Protect|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Crush Claw|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Brick Break|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Sealeo<br />
|ndex=364<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ice|type2=Water<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Thick Fat<br />
|move1=Aurora Beam|move1type=Ice<br />
|move2=Body Slam|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Rest|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Snore|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Girafarig<br />
|ndex=203<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Psychic<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Psybeam|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Crunch|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Rest|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Odor Sleuth|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Miltank<br />
|ndex=241<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Thick Fat<br />
|move1=Shadow Ball|move1type=Ghost<br />
|move2=Body Slam|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Rest|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Sleep Talk|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Golem<br />
|ndex=076<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Sturdy<br />
|move1=Selfdestruct|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Rock Tomb|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=Mud Sport|move3type=Ground<br />
|move4=Magnitude|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Bayleef<br />
|ndex=153<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Overgrow<br />
|move1=Body Slam|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Giga Drain|move2type=Grass<br />
|move3=GrassWhistle|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Fun Old Lady Gohon====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Fun Old Lady.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Fun Old Lady<br />
|name=Gohon<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Raichu<br />
|ndex=026<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Static<br />
|move1=Thunder|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Thunder Wave|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Light Screen|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Reversal|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Golduck<br />
|ndex=055<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Damp<br />
|move1=Waterfall|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Psychic|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Tail Whip|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Disable|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Donphan<br />
|ndex=232<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ground<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Sturdy<br />
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Counter|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Defense Curl|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Rollout|move4type=Rock}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Pinsir<br />
|ndex=127<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Hyper Cutter<br />
|move1=Revenge|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Strength|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Toxic|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Swords Dance|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Grovyle<br />
|ndex=253<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Overgrow<br />
|move1=Giga Drain|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=DragonBreath|move2type=Dragon<br />
|move3=Safeguard|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Rain Dance|move4type=Water}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Wigglytuff<br />
|ndex=040<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Cute Charm<br />
|move1=Mimic|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Perish Song|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Body Slam|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Rollout|move4type=Rock}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
===Ultimate===<br />
====St.Performer Volivia====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo St.Performer.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=St.Performer<br />
|name=Volivia<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Heracross<br />
|ndex=214<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Fighting<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Facade|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Megahorn|move3type=Bug<br />
|move4=Brick Break|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Swellow<br />
|ndex=277<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Facade|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Aerial Ace|move2type=Flying<br />
|move3=Attract|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Milotic<br />
|ndex=350<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Marvel Scale<br />
|move1=Mirror Coat|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Hydro Pump|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Toxic|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Recover|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Ninjask<br />
|ndex=291<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Speed Boost<br />
|move1=Toxic|move1type=Poison<br />
|move2=Silver Wind|move2type=Bug<br />
|move3=Aerial Ace|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Weezing<br />
|ndex=110<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Poison<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Explosion|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Sludge Bomb|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Toxic|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Fire Blast|move4type=Fire}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Ninetales<br />
|ndex=038<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Flash Fire<br />
|move1=Overheat|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Protect|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Will-O-Wisp|move3type=Fire<br />
|move4=Confuse Ray|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Hunter Spez====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Hunter.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Spez<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Metagross<br />
|ndex=376<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Steel|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Clear Body<br />
|move1=Sandstorm|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Brick Break|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Meteor Mash|move3type=Steel<br />
|move4=Shadow Ball|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Cacturne<br />
|ndex=332<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Dark<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Sand Veil<br />
|move1=Spikes|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Faint Attack|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Needle Arm|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Focus Punch|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Shuckle<br />
|ndex=213<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Bug|type2=Rock<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Sturdy<br />
|move1=Attract|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Wrap|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Toxic|move3type=Poison<br />
|move4=Rest|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Registeel<br />
|ndex=379<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Steel<br />
|ability=Clear Body<br />
|move1=Toxic|move1type=Poison<br />
|move2=Superpower|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Iron Defense|move3type=Steel<br />
|move4=Amnesia|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Cradily<br />
|ndex=346<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Grass<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Suction Cups<br />
|move1=Barrier|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Protect|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Confuse Ray|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Toxic|move4type=Poison}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Armaldo<br />
|ndex=348<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Bug<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Battle Armor<br />
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=AncientPower|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=Sandstorm|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Fury Cutter|move4type=Bug}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Guy Botken====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Guy.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Guy<br />
|name=Botken<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Sceptile<br />
|ndex=254<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Overgrow<br />
|move1=Leaf Blade|move1type=Grass<br />
|move2=Crunch|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Dragon Claw|move3type=Dragon<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Granbull<br />
|ndex=210<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Earthquake|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Charm|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Metronome|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Swampert<br />
|ndex=260<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Ground<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Torrent<br />
|move1=Curse|move1type=???<br />
|move2=Earthquake|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Return|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Rest|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Regirock<br />
|ndex=377<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Rock<br />
|ability=Clear Body<br />
|move1=Superpower|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=AncientPower|move2type=Rock<br />
|move3=Curse|move3type=???<br />
|move4=Zap Cannon|move4type=Electric}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Skarmory<br />
|ndex=227<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Steel|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Keen Eye<br />
|move1=Drill Peck|move1type=Flying<br />
|move2=Toxic|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Swift|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Spikes|move4type=Ground}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Blaziken<br />
|ndex=257<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fire|type2=Fighting<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Blaze<br />
|move1=Blaze Kick|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Sunny Day|move2type=Fire<br />
|move3=Endure|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Reversal|move4type=Fighting}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Hunter Bolza====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Hunter f.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Hunter<br />
|name=Bolza<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Swellow<br />
|ndex=277<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Sky Attack|move1type=Flying<br />
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Hyper Beam|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Endeavor|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Hariyama<br />
|ndex=297<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fighting<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Helping Hand|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Fake Out|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Seismic Toss|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Miltank<br />
|ndex=241<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Thick Fat<br />
|move1=Helping Hand|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Attract|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Shadow Ball|move3type=Ghost<br />
|move4=Body Slam|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Alakazam<br />
|ndex=065<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Psychic<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Synchronize<br />
|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Fire Punch|move2type=Fire<br />
|move3=Ice Punch|move3type=Ice<br />
|move4=Role Play|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Jumpluff<br />
|ndex=189<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Chlorophyll<br />
|move1=Helping Hand|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Encore|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Tail Whip|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Cotton Spore|move4type=Grass}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Sharpedo<br />
|ndex=319<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Dark<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Rough Skin<br />
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Frustration|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Hydro Pump|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Swagger|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Supertrainer Neblek====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Supertrainer m 1.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Supertrainer<br />
|name=Neblek<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Starmie<br />
|ndex=121<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Natural Cure<br />
|move1=Waterfall|move1type=Water<br />
|move2=Rain Dance|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Thunder|move3type=Electric<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Regice<br />
|ndex=378<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ice<br />
|ability=Clear Body<br />
|move1=Ice Beam|move1type=Ice<br />
|move2=Thunder|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Rest|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Rain Dance|move4type=Water}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Porygon2<br />
|ndex=233<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|ability=Trace<br />
|move1=Tri Attack|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Recover|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Recycle|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Thunder|move4type=Electric}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Electrode<br />
|ndex=101<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Soundproof<br />
|move1=Thunder|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Screech|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Protect|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Swift|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Magneton<br />
|ndex=082<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric|type2=Steel<br />
|ability=Magnet Pull<br />
|move1=Supersonic|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Thunder|move2type=Electric<br />
|move3=Screech|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Tri Attack|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Solrock<br />
|ndex=338<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Rock|type2=Psychic<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Flamethrower|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Cosmic Power|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Psychic|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Reflect|move4type=Psychic}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Fun Old Lady Flegal====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Fun Old Lady.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Fun Old Lady<br />
|name=Flegal<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Meganium<br />
|ndex=154<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Overgrow<br />
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Body Slam|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=SolarBeam|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Synthesis|move4type=Grass}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Typhlosion<br />
|ndex=157<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Blaze<br />
|move1=Focus Punch|move1type=Fighting<br />
|move2=Flamethrower|move2type=Fire<br />
|move3=Earthquake|move3type=Ground<br />
|move4=Return|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Feraligatr<br />
|ndex=160<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Torrent<br />
|move1=AncientPower|move1type=Rock<br />
|move2=Earthquake|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Brick Break|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Return|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Espeon<br />
|ndex=196<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Psychic<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Synchronize<br />
|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic<br />
|move2=Reflect|move2type=Psychic<br />
|move3=Light Screen|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Attract|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Umbreon<br />
|ndex=197<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Dark<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Synchronize<br />
|move1=Helping Hand|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Toxic|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Sunny Day|move3type=Fire<br />
|move4=Confuse Ray|move4type=Ghost}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Ursaring<br />
|ndex=217<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Guts<br />
|move1=Slash|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Earthquake|move2type=Ground<br />
|move3=Brick Break|move3type=Fighting<br />
|move4=Aerial Ace|move4type=Flying}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Fun Old Man Freyer====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Fun Old Man.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Fun Old Man<br />
|name=Freyer<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Rhydon<br />
|ndex=112<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ground|type2=Rock<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Lightning Rod<br />
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Megahorn|move2type=Bug<br />
|move3=Rock Blast|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Manectric<br />
|ndex=310<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Lightning Rod<br />
|move1=Thunderbolt|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Crunch|move2type=Dark<br />
|move3=Protect|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Roar|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Flygon<br />
|ndex=330<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ground|type2=Dragon<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Levitate<br />
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Fire Blast|move2type=Fire<br />
|move3=Dragon Claw|move3type=Dragon<br />
|move4=Crunch|move4type=Dark}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Gyarados<br />
|ndex=130<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Return|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Dragon Dance|move3type=Dragon<br />
|move4=Hydro Pump|move4type=Water}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Mantine<br />
|ndex=226<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Water Absorb<br />
|move1=Double Team|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Toxic|move2type=Poison<br />
|move3=Dive|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Attract|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Dodrio<br />
|ndex=085<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Early Bird<br />
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal<br />
|move2=Drill Peck|move2type=Flying<br />
|move3=Protect|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Haze|move4type=Ice}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
====Cooltrainer Desid====<br />
{{Party/Single<br />
|color={{colo color}}<br />
|bordercolor={{colo color dark}}<br />
|headcolor={{colo color light}}<br />
|sprite=Colo Cooltrainer m.png<br />
|size=75px<br />
|prize=N/A<br />
|class=Cooltrainer<br />
|classlink=Ace Trainer (Trainer class)<br />
|name=Desid<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|location=Orre<br />
|pokemon=6}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Suicune<br />
|ndex=245<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Water<br />
|ability=Pressure<br />
|move1=Ice Beam|move1type=Ice<br />
|move2=Waterfall|move2type=Water<br />
|move3=Rain Dance|move3type=Water<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Raikou<br />
|ndex=243<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Electric<br />
|ability=Pressure<br />
|move1=Thunderbolt|move1type=Electric<br />
|move2=Protect|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic<br />
|move4=Leer|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Entei<br />
|ndex=244<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Fire<br />
|ability=Pressure<br />
|move1=Fire Blast|move1type=Fire<br />
|move2=Protect|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=SolarBeam|move3type=Grass<br />
|move4=Sunny Day|move4type=Fire}}<br />
{{Party/Div|color={{colo color}}}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Aggron<br />
|ndex=306<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Steel|type2=Rock<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Rock Head<br />
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Iron Tail|move2type=Steel<br />
|move3=Double-Edge|move3type=Normal<br />
|move4=Rock Tomb|move4type=Rock}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Donphan<br />
|ndex=232<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Ground<br />
|gender=female<br />
|ability=Sturdy<br />
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Double-Edge|move2type=Normal<br />
|move3=AncientPower|move3type=Rock<br />
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/3<br />
|game=Colo<br />
|pokemon=Salamence<br />
|ndex=373<br />
|level=50<br />
|type1=Dragon|type2=Flying<br />
|gender=male<br />
|ability=Intimidate<br />
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground<br />
|move2=Brick Break|move2type=Fighting<br />
|move3=Aerial Ace|move3type=Flying<br />
|move4=Frustration|move4type=Normal}}<br />
{{Party/Footer}}<br />
<br />
==Trivia==<br />
*The [[Original Trainer]] of the Pokémon the player uses is always the Trainer whose team they originally were, never the player's.<br />
<br />
{{-}}<br />
{{Project Games notice|game mechanic}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Game mechanics]]<br />
[[Category:Pokémon Colosseum]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battle_Now_(Colosseum)&diff=2912130Talk:Battle Now (Colosseum)2019-01-13T04:56:02Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* Changing this Page and Adding a new page for Battle Now (Colosseum) */ new section</p>
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<div>Wait a sec - I thought Battle Mode was in XD, too? Isn't that the multiplayer option? <span style="border: 1px dotted #D04634;">[[User:Jazzmoth|<span style="color:#0F5437">ʝɑzz</span><span style="color:#3E0F54">motɦ</span>]] [[User talk:Jazzmoth|<span style="color:#004AC8;"><sub>❝❞</sub>]][[Special:Contributions/Jazzmoth|✎</span>]]</span> 06:08, 27 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Actually, it isn't. I checked a couple of days ago, and that wasn't the name. [[User:Turtwig A|<font color="#CD7F32">Turtwig's</font>]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|<font color="#FF7F00">A-B-Cs</font>]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|<font color="#green">talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|<font color="#yellow">contribs</font>]]) 03:13, 11 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
::It's the same basic concept though, isn't it? In either case, it makes it sound like there is no battle option at all, no matter what the name is. <span style="border: 1px dotted #D04634;">[[User:Jazzmoth|<span style="color:#0F5437">ʝɑzz</span><span style="color:#3E0F54">motɦ</span>]] [[User talk:Jazzmoth|<span style="color:#004AC8;"><sub>❝❞</sub>]][[Special:Contributions/Jazzmoth|✎</span>]]</span> 19:23, 11 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Well there is one, called VS Mode, but I don't know if it should go in this article or what. [[User:Turtwig A|<font color="#CD7F32">Turtwig's</font>]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|<font color="#FF7F00">A-B-Cs</font>]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|<font color="#green">talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|<font color="#yellow">contribs</font>]]) 19:27, 11 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Changing this Page and Adding a new page for Battle Now (Colosseum) ==<br />
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Unless I'm not allowed to, I'm going to take on this project and do it because Battle Now and Battle Mode are two very different things in this game, and at least for my own sake, I want it done correctly. [[User:ScottOshawott|ScottOshawott]] ([[User talk:ScottOshawott|talk]]) 04:56, 13 January 2019 (UTC)</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Hyper_Mode&diff=2908889Talk:Hyper Mode2019-01-06T06:50:19Z<p>ScottOshawott: Added more notes on Hyper Mode; deleted old discussion points that have been answered (if I wasn't supposed to do that, oops, sorry)</p>
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<div>==Notes on Hyper Mode Disobedience==<br />
Quotes:<br />
*(when commanded to use another move besides Shadow Rush): "<POKéMON> selfishly used <move> without orders!"<br />
**This move may target the ally Pokémon.<br />
**The move may end up being the same move as the one commanded.<br />
**Non-Shadow Rush moves do use PP as normal, even triggering Pressure. <br />
**(How would the Pokémon be affected by things like Torment, Encore, Choice Band, etc.?)<br />
***Under Encore, a Pokémon uses its last move (whether by choice or through disobedience), and this seems to bypass the disobedience check if the move is not Shadow Rush. (Example: my Stantler used Take Down instead of Leer out of disobedience. I then inflicted Encore onto it the next turn, and it then used Take Down without doing any Hyper Mode check for disobedience. This has been seen at least twice)<br />
***Under Torment, if the Pokémon uses a random move via disobedience, that move becomes the move that cannot be selected next turn due to Torment. Also, if a Pokémon is under Torment and attacks itself through disobedience, the next turn, the move that was originally selected cannot be selected again under the effects of Torment. (Example: my Stanler was commanded to use Hypnosis, but it instead hurt itself. The enxt turn, I tried to use Hypnosis again, and the message for Torment's effect came up)<br />
*When trying to use a Hold Item:<br />
**(when trying to use a Held Item when it isn't holding one): "<POKéMON> tried to use its item without permission! But it's not holding anything!"<br />
**(when trying to use a Held Item when it is holding one): "<POKéMON> tried to use its item without permission! But it didn't know how!"<br />
***I swear I saw this quote pop up in an instance where my Pokémon was not actually holding an item. Will research this further to confirm or not)<br />
*"<POKéMON> ignored orders and returned to its BALL!"<br />
**(when the Pokémon attempts this but there are no other Pokémon to switch with): "<POKéMON> tried to return to its BALL without permission! But it doesn't know how!"<br />
*"Unbelievable! <POKéMON> ignored orders and attacked <Player>!" (This one seems to happen more often than attacking the opposing trainer???)<br />
*"Unbelievable! <POKéMON> ignored orders and attacked the opposing trainer!"<br />
*"<POKéMON> is in HYPER MODE! It's too confused to do anything!"<br />
*"<POKéMON> is in HYPER MODE! It attacked itself!" "It hurt itself in its confusion!"<br />
**This damage is consistent with normal Confusion damage. Furthermore, if a Pokémon is under Torment and attacks itself through disobedience, the next turn, the move that was originally selected cannot be selected again under the effects of Torment. This is also consistent with how Confusion works (I think).<br />
*(Supposedly when the Pokémon cures itself from Hyper Mode?): (Have not witnessed yet)<br />
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==General Notes Regarding Hyper Mode==<br />
The message of "<POKéMON> is in HYPER MODE!" comes after any other effects the Pokémon experiences, such as taking damage from Poison, but still during its check based on the Speed of the Pokémon on the field.<br />
<br />
In Hyper Mode, a Pokémon also may be unable to use their own Hold Item under normal circumstances (such as not using an Oran Berry when its HP drops below 50%). I have to look into this further, as I had my Stantler in Hyper Mode and not use its Oran Berry one turn, then suddenly use it at the end of the next turn, even though it was able to do so the first turn.<br />
*It looks like it can use its Held Item normally. For example, my Stantler was holding a Cheri Berry and got paralyzed, and it immediately used its Cheri Berry even though it was in Hyper Mode.<br />
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The odds of what a Pokémon does during Hyper Mode is not something I can check directly. I can say from observation, however, that the Pokémon is very unlikely to ever obey, no matter how long they have been in Hyper Mode.<br />
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When the Pokémon attacks either trainer, it is essentially a wasted turn. This is true of most effects, actually. <br />
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[[User:ScottOshawott|ScottOshawott]] ([[User talk:ScottOshawott|talk]]) 06:50, 6 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==Extended Hyper Mode==<br />
<br />
So I don't have the coding expertise to be able to say for certain, but from observation alone, it seems like the longer a Pokémon stays in Hyper Mode, the more likely it is to ignore orders and do whatever it wants. Is anyone able to verify this through actual data? {{unsigned|Eskay64}}</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Hyper_Mode&diff=2908650Talk:Hyper Mode2019-01-05T08:12:16Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* Attacking a trainer */</p>
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<div>==Notes on Hyper Mode Disobedience==<br />
Quotes:<br />
*(when commanded to use another move besides Shadow Rush): "<Pokémon> selfishly used <move> without orders!"<br />
**This move may target the ally Pokémon.<br />
**The move may end up being the same move as the one commanded.<br />
**Non-Shadow Rush moves do use PP as normal, even triggering Pressure.<br />
*When trying to use a Hold Item:<br />
**(when trying to use a Held Item when it isn't holding one): "<Pokémon> tried to use its item without permission! (will find rest of quote)"<br />
**(when the item is one it cannot use at the moment, such as a Chesto Berry while not asleep): "<Pokémon> tried to use its item without permission! But it didn't know how!"<br />
***The same quote is used even if the Pokemon could actually use its item, such as using a Leppa Berry when it has actually used some of its PP.<br />
*"<Pokémon> ignored orders and returned to its BALL!"<br />
*"Unbelievable! <Pokémon> ignored orders and attacked <Player>!" (This one seems to happen more often than attacking the opposing trainer???)<br />
*"Unbelievable! <Pokémon> ignored orders and attacked the opposing trainer!"<br />
*"<Pokémon> is in HYPER MODE! It's too confused to do anything!"<br />
*"<Pokémon> is in HYPER MODE! It attacked itself!" "It hurt itself in its confusion!" (Damage dealt appears to be consistent with normal confusion damage)<br />
<br />
*In Hyper Mode, a Pokémon also may be unable to use their own Hold Item under normal circumstances (such as not using an Oran Berry when its HP drops below 50%). I have to look into this further, as I had my Stantler in Hyper Mode and not use its Oran Berry one turn, then suddenly use it at the end of the next turn, even though it was able to do so the first turn.<br />
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==Attacking a trainer==<br />
Question: What exactly happens when a Hyper Mode Pokémon attacks a trainer? '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:orangered;">--Havoc</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:red;">48</span>]]''''' 21:47, 6 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I don't that's possible, even if the article does say so. It's [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig A]]! [[User talk:Turtwig A|My talk]] or [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|wiki edits]] 22:06, 6 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
::It's happened to me once, several years ago. It just says something like "MAKUHITA attacked WES instead!". I don't recall the exact wording, but the Pokémon I THINK does its attacking animation, then Wes just slides back a bit, like when you first battle the Shadow Makuhita, it attacks Wes, then Rui says to be careful, as it's not afraid to attack people. I gotta play Colosseum again... <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 22:12, 6 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:It is the same thing as wasting a turn, essentially. The Pokémon attacks a trainer, and then it just moves right onto the next thing with no other dialogue or effects.[[User:ScottOshawott|ScottOshawott]] ([[User talk:ScottOshawott|talk]]) 08:12, 5 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==Extended Hyper Mode==<br />
<br />
So I don't have the coding expertise to be able to say for certain, but from observation alone, it seems like the longer a Pokémon stays in Hyper Mode, the more likely it is to ignore orders and do whatever it wants. Is anyone able to verify this through actual data? {{unsigned|Eskay64}}</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Hyper_Mode&diff=2908648Talk:Hyper Mode2019-01-05T08:10:26Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* Notes on Hyper Mode Disobedience */</p>
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<div>==Notes on Hyper Mode Disobedience==<br />
Quotes:<br />
*(when commanded to use another move besides Shadow Rush): "<Pokémon> selfishly used <move> without orders!"<br />
**This move may target the ally Pokémon.<br />
**The move may end up being the same move as the one commanded.<br />
**Non-Shadow Rush moves do use PP as normal, even triggering Pressure.<br />
*When trying to use a Hold Item:<br />
**(when trying to use a Held Item when it isn't holding one): "<Pokémon> tried to use its item without permission! (will find rest of quote)"<br />
**(when the item is one it cannot use at the moment, such as a Chesto Berry while not asleep): "<Pokémon> tried to use its item without permission! But it didn't know how!"<br />
***The same quote is used even if the Pokemon could actually use its item, such as using a Leppa Berry when it has actually used some of its PP.<br />
*"<Pokémon> ignored orders and returned to its BALL!"<br />
*"Unbelievable! <Pokémon> ignored orders and attacked <Player>!" (This one seems to happen more often than attacking the opposing trainer???)<br />
*"Unbelievable! <Pokémon> ignored orders and attacked the opposing trainer!"<br />
*"<Pokémon> is in HYPER MODE! It's too confused to do anything!"<br />
*"<Pokémon> is in HYPER MODE! It attacked itself!" "It hurt itself in its confusion!" (Damage dealt appears to be consistent with normal confusion damage)<br />
<br />
*In Hyper Mode, a Pokémon also may be unable to use their own Hold Item under normal circumstances (such as not using an Oran Berry when its HP drops below 50%). I have to look into this further, as I had my Stantler in Hyper Mode and not use its Oran Berry one turn, then suddenly use it at the end of the next turn, even though it was able to do so the first turn.<br />
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==Attacking a trainer==<br />
Question: What exactly happens when a Hyper Mode Pokémon attacks a trainer? '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:orangered;">--Havoc</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:red;">48</span>]]''''' 21:47, 6 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I don't that's possible, even if the article does say so. It's [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig A]]! [[User talk:Turtwig A|My talk]] or [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|wiki edits]] 22:06, 6 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
::It's happened to me once, several years ago. It just says something like "MAKUHITA attacked WES instead!". I don't recall the exact wording, but the Pokémon I THINK does its attacking animation, then Wes just slides back a bit, like when you first battle the Shadow Makuhita, it attacks Wes, then Rui says to be careful, as it's not afraid to attack people. I gotta play Colosseum again... <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 22:12, 6 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==Extended Hyper Mode==<br />
<br />
So I don't have the coding expertise to be able to say for certain, but from observation alone, it seems like the longer a Pokémon stays in Hyper Mode, the more likely it is to ignore orders and do whatever it wants. Is anyone able to verify this through actual data? {{unsigned|Eskay64}}</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Hyper_Mode&diff=2908647Talk:Hyper Mode2019-01-05T08:09:12Z<p>ScottOshawott: Made notes of quotes for Hyper Mode Disobedience, as well as other important notes</p>
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<div>==Notes on Hyper Mode Disobedience==<br />
Quotes:<br />
*(when commanded to use another move besides Shadow Rush): "<Pokémon> selfishly used <move> without orders!"<br />
**This move may target the ally Pokémon.<br />
**The move may end up being the same move as the one commanded.<br />
**Non-Shadow Rush moves do use PP as normal, even triggering Pressure.<br />
*When trying to use a Hold Item:<br />
**(when trying to use a Held Item when it isn't holding one): "<Pokémon> tried to use its item without permission! (will find rest of quote)"<br />
**(when the item is one it cannot use at the moment, such as a Chesto Berry while not asleep): "<Pokémon> tried to use its item without permission! But it didn't know how!"<br />
***The same quote is used even if the Pokemon could actually use its item, such as using a Leppa Berry when it has actually used some of its PP.<br />
*"<Pokémon> ignored orders and returned to its BALL!"<br />
*"Unbelievable! <Pokémon> ignored orders and attacked <Player>!" (This one seems to happen more often than attacking the opposing trainer???)<br />
*"Unbelievable! <Pokémon> ignored orders and attacked the opposing trainer!"<br />
*"<Pokémon> is in HYPER MODE! It's too confused to do anything!"<br />
*"<Pokémon> is in HYPER MODE! It attacked itself!" "It hurt itself in its confusion!"<br />
<br />
*In Hyper Mode, a Pokémon also may be unable to use their own Hold Item under normal circumstances (such as not using an Oran Berry when its HP drops below 50%). I have to look into this further, as I had my Stantler in Hyper Mode and not use its Oran Berry one turn, then suddenly use it at the end of the next turn, even though it was able to do so the first turn.<br />
<br />
==Attacking a trainer==<br />
Question: What exactly happens when a Hyper Mode Pokémon attacks a trainer? '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:orangered;">--Havoc</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:red;">48</span>]]''''' 21:47, 6 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I don't that's possible, even if the article does say so. It's [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig A]]! [[User talk:Turtwig A|My talk]] or [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|wiki edits]] 22:06, 6 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
::It's happened to me once, several years ago. It just says something like "MAKUHITA attacked WES instead!". I don't recall the exact wording, but the Pokémon I THINK does its attacking animation, then Wes just slides back a bit, like when you first battle the Shadow Makuhita, it attacks Wes, then Rui says to be careful, as it's not afraid to attack people. I gotta play Colosseum again... <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 22:12, 6 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==Extended Hyper Mode==<br />
<br />
So I don't have the coding expertise to be able to say for certain, but from observation alone, it seems like the longer a Pokémon stays in Hyper Mode, the more likely it is to ignore orders and do whatever it wants. Is anyone able to verify this through actual data? {{unsigned|Eskay64}}</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=List_of_TM_and_HM_locations_in_Generation_III&diff=2906879List of TM and HM locations in Generation III2019-01-01T01:06:38Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* TMs */ Cleaned up location descriptions for consistency</p>
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<div>This is a '''list of the locations of all [[TM]]s and [[HM]]s in the [[Generation III]]''' games. <br />
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==[[Hoenn]] and [[Kanto]]/[[Sevii Islands]]==<br />
===TMs===<br />
{| class="roundy" style="float:left; text-align:center; background: #{{sapphire color}}; border: 3px solid #{{ruby color}}; padding:2px;" cellspacing="1"<br />
|-<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" rowspan="2" | TM<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" rowspan="2" | Move<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" rowspan="2" | Type<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" colspan="2" | Locations<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" colspan="2" | Price<br />
|-<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | Hoenn<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | Kanto/Sevii<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | Hoenn<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | Kanto/Sevii<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fighting|01|Focus Punch}}<br><small>[[TM01]]</small><br />
| {{m|Focus Punch}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
| {{rt|115|Hoenn}}, {{A|Pickup}}{{sup/3|E}} (1% chance, lv 71-90)<br />
| [[Silph Co.]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Dragon|02|Dragon Claw}}<br><small>[[TM02]]</small><br />
| {{m|Dragon Claw}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
| [[Meteor Falls]]<br />
| {{ka|Victory Road}}<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Water|03|Water Pulse}}<br><small>[[TM03]]</small><br />
| {{m|Water Pulse}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Wallace]]{{sup/3|RS}}/[[Juan]]{{sup/3|E}}<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Misty]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Psychic|04|Calm Mind}}<br><small>[[TM04]]</small><br />
| {{m|Calm Mind}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Tate and Liza]]<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Sabrina]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|05|Roar}}<br><small>[[TM05]]</small><br />
| {{m|Roar}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| {{rt|114|Hoenn}}<br />
| {{rt|4|Kanto}}, [[Celadon Department Store]]<br />
| N/A<br />
| {{PDollar}}1000<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Poison|06|Toxic}}<br><small>[[TM06]]</small><br />
| {{m|Toxic}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
| [[Fiery Path]]<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Koga]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Ice|07|Hail}}<br><small>[[TM07]]</small><br />
| {{m|Hail}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
| [[Shoal Cave]] <br />
| {{ka|Victory Road}}<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fighting|08|Bulk Up}}<br><small>[[TM08]]</small><br />
| {{m|Bulk Up}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Brawly]]<br />
| [[Silph Co.]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Grass|09|Bullet Seed}}<br><small>[[TM09]]</small><br />
| {{m|Bullet Seed}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
| {{rt|104|Hoenn}}<br />
| [[Mt. Moon]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|10|Hidden Power}}<br><small>[[TM10]]</small><br />
| {{m|Hidden Power}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[Fortree City]], [[Slateport City]]<br />
| {{a|Pickup}} (5% chance)<br />
| {{PDollar}}3000<br />
| N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fire|11|Sunny Day}}<br><small>[[TM11]]</small><br />
| {{m|Sunny Day}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
| [[Scorched Slab]], [[Trainer Hill]]{{sup/3|E}}<br />
| {{safari|Kanto}}<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A <br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Dark|12|Taunt}}<br><small>[[TM12]]</small><br />
| {{m|Taunt}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
| [[Trick House]]<br />
| [[Team Rocket Hideout|Rocket Hideout]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Ice|13|Ice Beam}}<br><small>[[TM13]]</small><br />
| {{m|Ice Beam}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
| [[Abandoned Ship]], [[Mauville Game Corner]]<br />
| [[Celadon Game Corner|Rocket Game Corner]] <br />
| colspan=2 |4000[[Coin|C]]<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Ice|14|Blizzard}}<br><small>[[TM14]]</small><br />
| {{m|Blizzard}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
| [[Lilycove Department Store]]<br />
| {{ka|Pokémon Mansion}}<br />
| {{PDollar}}5500<br />
| N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|15|Hyper Beam}}<br><small>[[TM15]]</small><br />
| {{m|Hyper Beam}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[Lilycove Department Store]] <br />
| [[Celadon Department Store]] <br />
| colspan=2 |{{PDollar}}7500<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Psychic|16|Light Screen}}<br><small>[[TM16]]</small><br />
| {{m|Light Screen}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
| [[Lilycove Department Store]] <br />
| [[Celadon Department Store]]<br />
| {{PDollar}}3000<br />
| N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|17|Protect}}<br><small>[[TM17]]</small><br />
| {{m|Protect}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[Lilycove Department Store]] <br />
| [[Kanto Power Plant]] <br />
| {{PDollar}}3000<br />
| N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Water|18|Rain Dance}}<br><small>[[TM18]]</small><br />
| {{m|Rain Dance}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
| [[Abandoned Ship]]<br />
| {{rt|15|Kanto}}<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Grass|19|Giga Drain}}<br><small>[[TM19]]</small><br />
| {{m|Giga Drain}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
| {{rt|123|Hoenn}}, [[Trainer Hill]]{{sup/3|E}}<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Erika]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|20|Safeguard}}<br><small>[[TM20]]</small><br />
| {{m|Safeguard}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[Lilycove Department Store]]<br />
| [[Celadon Department Store]]<br />
| {{PDollar}}3000<br />
| N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|21|Frustration}}<br><small>[[TM21]]</small><br />
| {{m|Frustration}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[Pacifidlog Town]]<br />
| [[Team Rocket Hideout|Rocket Hideout]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Grass|22|SolarBeam}}<br><small>[[TM22]]</small><br />
| {{m|SolarBeam}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
| {{safari|Hoenn}}<br />
| {{ka|Pokémon Mansion}}<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Steel|23|Iron Tail}}<br><small>[[TM23]]</small><br />
| {{m|Iron Tail}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
| [[Meteor Falls]]<br />
| [[Celadon Game Corner|Rocket Game Corner]]<br />
| N/A<br />
| 3500[[Coin|C]]<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Electric|24|Thunderbolt}}<br><small>[[TM24]]</small><br />
| {{m|Thunderbolt}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
| Gift from [[Wattson]], [[Mauville Game Corner]]<br />
| [[Celadon Game Corner|Rocket Game Corner]]<br />
| colspan=2 |4000[[Coin|C]]<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Electric|25|Thunder}}<br><small>[[TM25]]</small><br />
| {{m|Thunder}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
| [[Lilycove Department Store]]<br />
| [[Kanto Power Plant]]<br />
| {{PDollar}}5500<br />
| N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Ground|26|Earthquake}}<br><small>[[TM26]]</small><br />
| {{m|Earthquake}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
| [[Seafloor Cavern]], {{A|Pickup}}{{sup/3|E}} (1% chance, lv 91-100)<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Giovanni]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|27|Return}}<br><small>[[TM27]]</small><br />
| {{m|Return}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[Fallarbor Town]], [[Pacifidlog Town]]<br />
| {{rt|12|Kanto}}<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Ground|28|Dig}}<br><small>[[TM28]]</small><br />
| {{m|Dig}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
| {{rt|114|Hoenn}}<br />
| [[Cerulean City]], [[Celadon Department Store]]<br />
| N/A<br />
| {{PDollar}}2000<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Psychic|29|Psychic}}<br><small>[[TM29]]</small><br />
| {{m|Psychic}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
| [[Mauville Game Corner]], [[Victory Road (Hoenn)|Victory Road]]<br />
| [[Saffron City]]<br />
| 3500[[Coin|C]]<br />
| N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Ghost|30|Shadow Ball}}<br><small>[[TM30]]</small><br />
| {{m|Shadow Ball}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
| [[Mt. Pyre]]<br />
| [[Celadon Game Corner|Rocket Game Corner]]<br />
| N/A<br />
| 4500[[Coin|C]]<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fighting|31|Brick Break}}<br><small>[[TM31]]</small><br />
| {{m|Brick Break}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
| [[Sootopolis City]], [[Trainer Hill]]{{sup/3|E}}<br />
| [[Celadon Department Store]], [[S.S. Anne]]<br />
| N/A<br />
| {{PDollar}}3000<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|32|Double Team}}<br><small>[[TM32]]</small><br />
| {{m|Double Team}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| {{rt|113|Hoenn}}, [[Mauville Game Corner]]<br />
| {{safari|Kanto}}<br />
| 1500[[Coin|C]]<br />
| N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Psychic|33|Reflect}}<br><small>[[TM33]]</small><br />
| {{m|Reflect}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
| [[Lilycove Department Store]]<br />
| [[Celadon Department Store]]<br />
| {{PDollar}}3000<br />
| N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Electric|34|Shock Wave}}<br><small>[[TM34]]</small><br />
| {{m|Shock Wave}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Wattson]]<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Lt. Surge]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fire|35|Flamethrower}}<br><small>[[TM35]]</small><br />
| {{m|Flamethrower}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
| [[Mauville Game Corner]]<br />
| [[Celadon Game Corner|Rocket Game Corner]]<br />
| colspan=2 |4000[[Coin|C]]<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Poison|36|Sludge Bomb}}<br><small>[[TM36]]</small><br />
| {{m|Sludge Bomb}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
| [[Dewford Town]]<br />
| [[Rocket Warehouse]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Rock|37|Sandstorm}}<br><small>[[TM37]]</small><br />
| {{m|Sandstorm}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
| {{rt|111|Hoenn}}<br />
| {{ka|Victory Road}}<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fire|38|Fire Blast}}<br><small>[[TM38]]</small><br />
| {{m|Fire Blast}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
| [[Lilycove Department Store]]<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Blaine]]<br />
| {{PDollar}}5500<br />
| N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Rock|39|Rock Tomb}}<br><small>[[TM39]]</small><br />
| {{m|Rock Tomb}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Roxanne]]<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Brock]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Flying|40|Aerial Ace}}<br><small>[[TM40]]</small><br />
| {{m|Aerial Ace}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Winona]]<br />
| {{rt|9|Kanto}}<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Dark|41|Torment}}<br><small>[[TM41]]</small><br />
| {{m|Torment}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
| [[Slateport City]]<br />
| [[Silph Co.]]<br />
| colspan=2 | N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|42|Facade}}<br><small>[[TM42]]</small><br />
| {{m|Facade}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Norman]]<br />
| [[Memorial Pillar]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|43|Secret Power}}<br><small>[[TM43]]</small><br />
| {{m|Secret Power}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| {{rt|111|Hoenn}}, [[Slateport City]]<br />
| {{rt|24|Kanto}}, [[Celadon Department Store]]<br />
| colspan=2 |{{PDollar}}3000<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Psychic|44|Rest}}<br><small>[[TM44]]</small><br />
| {{m|Rest}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
| [[Lilycove City]], {{a|Pickup}}{{sup/3|E}} (1% chance, lv 51-70)<br />
| [[S.S. Anne]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|45|Attract}}<br><small>[[TM45]]</small><br />
| {{m|Attract}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[Verdanturf Town]]<br />
| {{rt|24|Kanto}}, [[Celadon Department Store]]<br />
| N/A<br />
| {{PDollar}}3000<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Dark|46|Thief}}<br><small>[[TM46]]</small><br />
| {{m|Thief}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
| [[Slateport City]]<br />
| [[Mt. Moon]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Steel|47|Steel Wing}}<br><small>[[TM47]]</small><br />
| {{m|Steel Wing}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
| [[Granite Cave]]<br />
| {{safari|Kanto}}<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Psychic|48|Skill Swap}}<br><small>[[TM48]]</small><br />
| {{m|Skill Swap}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
| [[Mt. Pyre]]<br />
| {{rt|12|Kanto}}<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Dark|49|Snatch}}<br><small>[[TM49]]</small><br />
| {{m|Snatch}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
| [[S.S. Tidal]]<br />
| [[Team Rocket Hideout|Rocket Hideout]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fire|50|Overheat}}<br><small>[[TM50]]</small><br />
| {{m|Overheat}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Flannery]]<br />
| {{ka|Victory Road}}<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|}{{-}}<br />
<br />
===HMs===<br />
{| class="roundy" style="float:left; text-align:center; background: #{{sapphire color}}; border: 3px solid #{{ruby color}}; padding:2px;" cellspacing="1"<br />
|-<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" rowspan="2" | HM<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" rowspan="2" | Move<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" rowspan="2" | Type<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" colspan="2" | Locations<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" colspan="2" | Badge<br />
|-<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | Hoenn<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | Kanto/Sevii<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | Hoenn<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | Kanto<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{HMic|Normal|01|Cut}}<br><small>[[HM01]]</small><br />
| {{m|Cut}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[Rustboro City]]<br />
| [[S.S. Anne]]<br />
| | [[File:Stone Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Stone}}</small><br />
| | [[File:Cascade Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Cascade}}</small><br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{HMic|Flying|02|Fly}}<br><small>[[HM02]]</small><br />
| {{m|Fly}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
| [[Fortree City]]<br />
| {{rt|16|Kanto}}<br />
| | [[File:Feather Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Feather}}</small><br />
| | [[File:Thunder Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Thunder}}</small><br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{HMic|Water|03|Surf}}<br><small>[[HM03]]</small><br />
| {{m|Surf}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
| [[Petalburg City]]<br />
| {{safari|Kanto}}<br />
| | [[File:Balance Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Balance}}</small><br />
| | [[File:Soul Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Soul}}</small><br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{HMic|Normal|04|Strength}}<br><small>[[HM04]]</small><br />
| {{m|Strength}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[Rusturf Tunnel]]<br />
| [[Fuchsia City]]<br />
| | [[File:Heat Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Heat}}</small><br />
| | [[File:Rainbow Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Rainbow}}</small><br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{HMic|Normal|05|Flash}}<br><small>[[HM05]]</small><br />
| {{m|Flash}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[Granite Cave]]<br />
| {{rt|2|Kanto}}<br />
| | [[File:Knuckle Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Knuckle}}</small><br />
| | [[File:Boulder Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Boulder}}</small><br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{HMic|Fighting|06|Rock Smash}}<br><small>[[HM06]]</small><br />
| {{m|Rock Smash}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
| [[Mauville City]]<br />
| [[Ember Spa]]<br />
| | [[File:Dynamo Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Dynamo}}</small><br />
| | [[File:Marsh Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Marsh}}</small><br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{HMic|Water|07|Waterfall}}<br><small>[[HM07]]</small><br />
| {{m|Waterfall}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
| [[Cave of Origin]]{{sup/3|RS}}, [[Sootopolis City]]{{sup/3|E}}<br />
| [[Icefall Cave]]<br />
| | [[File:Rain Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Rain}}</small><br />
| | [[File:Volcano Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Volcano}}</small><br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{HMic|Water|08|Dive}}<br><small>[[HM08]]</small><br />
| {{m|Dive}}{{tt|*|Dive is unavailable in Kanto}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
| [[Mossdeep City]]<br />
| | &mdash;<br />
| | [[File:Mind Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Mind}}</small><br />
| | &mdash;<br />
|}{{-}}<br />
<br />
==[[Orre]]==<br />
===TMs===<br />
{| class="roundy" style="float:left; text-align:center; background: #{{colo color dark}}; border: 3px solid #{{colo color}}; padding:2px;" cellspacing="1"<br />
|-<br />
! style="background: #{{colo color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" rowspan="2" | TM<br />
! style="background: #{{colo color light}};" rowspan="2" | Move<br />
! style="background: #{{colo color light}};" rowspan="2" | Type<br />
! style="background: #{{colo color light}};" colspan="2" | Locations<br />
! style="background: #{{colo color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" colspan="2"| Price<br />
|-<br />
! style="background: #{{colo color light}};" | [[Pokémon Colosseum|Colosseum]]<br />
! style="background: #{{colo color light}};" | [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|XD]]<br />
! style="background: #{{colo color light}};" | [[Pokémon Colosseum|Colosseum]]<br />
! style="background: #{{colo color light}};" | [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|XD]]<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fighting|01|Focus Punch}}<br><small>[[TM01]]</small><br />
| {{m|Focus Punch}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
| [[Pyrite Colosseum]] Round 1<br />
| Clear [[Battle CD]] 21 at [[Realgam Tower]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Dragon|02|Dragon Claw}}<br><small>[[TM02]]</small><br />
| {{m|Dragon Claw}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
| [[Deep Colosseum]] Round 4<br />
| [[Orre Colosseum]] Round 7<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Water|03|Water Pulse}}<br><small>[[TM03]]</small><br />
| {{m|Water Pulse}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| Area 2 of [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Psychic|04|Calm Mind}}<br><small>[[TM04]]</small><br />
| {{m|Calm Mind}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| Area 7 of [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|05|Roar}}<br><small>[[TM05]]</small><br />
| {{m|Roar}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[Pyrite Colosseum]] Round 3<br />
| [[Pyrite Colosseum]] Round 4<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Poison|06|Toxic}}<br><small>[[TM06]]</small><br />
| {{m|Toxic}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
| Complete [[Pyrite Colosseum]]<br />
| [[Orre Colosseum]] Round 1<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Ice|07|Hail}}<br><small>[[TM07]]</small><br />
| {{m|Hail}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
| [[Pyrite Colosseum]] Round 2<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fighting|08|Bulk Up}}<br><small>[[TM08]]</small><br />
| {{m|Bulk Up}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| Area 8 of [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Grass|09|Bullet Seed}}<br><small>[[TM09]]</small><br />
| {{m|Bullet Seed}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| Receive from [[Eagun]]'s wife [[Beluh]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|10|Hidden Power}}<br><small>[[TM10]]</small><br />
| {{m|Hidden Power}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[The Under]] Shop<br />
| [[Realgam Tower]]<br />
| colspan=2 |{{pdollar}}3000<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fire|11|Sunny Day}}<br><small>[[TM11]]</small><br />
| {{m|Sunny Day}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
| [[Phenac Stadium]] Round 2<br />
| Clear [[Battle CD]] 49 at [[Realgam Tower]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Dark|12|Taunt}}<br><small>[[TM12]]</small><br />
| {{m|Taunt}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
| [[Deep Colosseum]] Round 1<br />
| [[Pyrite Colosseum]] Round 2<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Ice|13|Ice Beam}}<br><small>[[TM13]]</small><br />
| {{m|Ice Beam}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
| [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| [[Phenac City]], [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| colspan=2 |4000[[Poké Coupon|PC]]<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Ice|14|Blizzard}}<br><small>[[TM14]]</small><br />
| {{m|Blizzard}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
| [[The Under]] Shop<br />
| [[Realgam Tower]]<br />
| colspan=2 |{{pdollar}}5500<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|15|Hyper Beam}}<br><small>[[TM15]]</small><br />
| {{m|Hyper Beam}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[The Under]] Shop<br />
| [[Realgam Tower]]<br />
| colspan=2 |{{pdollar}}7500<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Psychic|16|Light Screen}}<br><small>[[TM16]]</small><br />
| {{m|Light Screen}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
| [[The Under]] Shop<br />
| [[Realgam Tower]]<br />
| colspan=2 |{{pdollar}}3000<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|17|Protect}}<br><small>[[TM17]]</small><br />
| {{m|Protect}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[The Under]] Shop<br />
| [[Realgam Tower]]<br />
| colspan=2 |{{pdollar}}3000<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Water|18|Rain Dance}}<br><small>[[TM18]]</small><br />
| {{m|Rain Dance}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
| [[Phenac Stadium]] Round 1<br />
| Clear [[Battle CD]] 50 at [[Realgam Tower]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Grass|19|Giga Drain}}<br><small>[[TM19]]</small><br />
| {{m|Giga Drain}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
| [[Phenac Stadium]] Round 3<br />
| [[Realgam Colosseum]] Round 3<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|20|Safeguard}}<br><small>[[TM20]]</small><br />
| {{m|Safeguard}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[The Under]] Shop<br />
| [[Realgam Tower]]<br />
| colspan=2 |{{pdollar}}3000<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|21|Frustration}}<br><small>[[TM21]]</small><br />
| {{m|Frustration}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Grass|22|SolarBeam}}<br><small>[[TM22]]</small><br />
| {{m|SolarBeam}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
| [[Phenac Stadium]] Round 4<br />
| [[Realgam Colosseum]] Round 4<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Steel|23|Iron Tail}}<br><small>[[TM23]]</small><br />
| {{m|Iron Tail}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
| [[Under Colosseum]] Round 4<br />
| [[Realgam Colosseum]] Round 3<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Electric|24|Thunderbolt}}<br><small>[[TM24]]</small><br />
| {{m|Thunderbolt}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
| [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| [[Cipher Key Lair]], [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| colspan=2 |4000[[Poké Coupon|PC]]<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Electric|25|Thunder}}<br><small>[[TM25]]</small><br />
| {{m|Thunder}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
| [[The Under]] Shop<br />
| [[Realgam Tower]]<br />
| colspan=2 |{{pdollar}}5500<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Ground|26|Earthquake}}<br><small>[[TM26]]</small><br />
| {{m|Earthquake}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
| [[Shadow PKMN Lab]]<br />
| [[Cipher Key Lair]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|27|Return}}<br><small>[[TM27]]</small><br />
| {{m|Return}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Justy]]<br />
| [[Orre Colosseum]] Round 2<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Ground|28|Dig}}<br><small>[[TM28]]</small><br />
| {{m|Dig}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Psychic|29|Psychic}}<br><small>[[TM29]]</small><br />
| {{m|Psychic}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
| [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| [[Snagem Hideout]], [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| colspan=2 |3500[[Poké Coupon|PC]]<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Ghost|30|Shadow Ball}}<br><small>[[TM30]]</small><br />
| {{m|Shadow Ball}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
| [[Under Colosseum]] Round 3<br />
| [[Snagem Hideout]], [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| N/A<br />
| 4500[[Poké Coupon|PC]]<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fighting|31|Brick Break}}<br><small>[[TM31]]</small><br />
| {{m|Brick Break}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
| [[Pyrite Colosseum]] Round 4<br />
| [[Pyrite Colosseum]] Round 1<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|32|Double Team}}<br><small>[[TM32]]</small><br />
| {{m|Double Team}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Justy]]<br />
| 1500[[Poké Coupon|PC]]<br />
| N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Psychic|33|Reflect}}<br><small>[[TM33]]</small><br />
| {{m|Reflect}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
| [[The Under]] Shop<br />
| [[Realgam Tower]]<br />
| colspan=2 |{{pdollar}}3000<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Electric|34|Shock Wave}}<br><small>[[TM34]]</small><br />
| {{m|Shock Wave}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| Area 3 of [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fire|35|Flamethrower}}<br><small>[[TM35]]</small><br />
| {{m|Flamethrower}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
| [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| [[S.S. Libra]], [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| colspan=2 |4000[[Poké Coupon|PC]]<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Poison|36|Sludge Bomb}}<br><small>[[TM36]]</small><br />
| {{m|Sludge Bomb}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
| [[Under Colosseum]] Round 2<br />
| [[Orre Colosseum]] Round 4<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Rock|37|Sandstorm}}<br><small>[[TM37]]</small><br />
| {{m|Sandstorm}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
| [[Under Colosseum]] Round 1<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fire|38|Fire Blast}}<br><small>[[TM38]]</small><br />
| {{m|Fire Blast}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
| [[The Under]] Shop<br />
| [[Realgam Tower]]<br />
| colspan=2 |{{pdollar}}5500<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Rock|39|Rock Tomb}}<br><small>[[TM39]]</small><br />
| {{m|Rock Tomb}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| Area 5 of [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Flying|40|Aerial Ace}}<br><small>[[TM40]]</small><br />
| {{m|Aerial Ace}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| Area 9 of [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Dark|41|Torment}}<br><small>[[TM41]]</small><br />
| {{m|Torment}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
| Rollerboy Kaib in [[Phenac City]]<br />
| [[Pyrite Colosseum]] Round 3<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|42|Facade}}<br><small>[[TM42]]</small><br />
| {{m|Facade}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| Area 4 of [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|43|Secret Power}}<br><small>[[TM43]]</small><br />
| {{m|Secret Power}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Psychic|44|Rest}}<br><small>[[TM44]]</small><br />
| {{m|Rest}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
| [[Deep Colosseum]] Round 3<br />
| [[Orre Colosseum]] Round 5<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|45|Attract}}<br><small>[[TM45]]</small><br />
| {{m|Attract}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[The Under]] Studio<br />
| [[Gateon Port]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Dark|46|Thief}}<br><small>[[TM46]]</small><br />
| {{m|Thief}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
| [[Pyrite Town]] Jail<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Steel|47|Steel Wing}}<br><small>[[TM47]]</small><br />
| {{m|Steel Wing}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
| Defeat [[Dakim]] at [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| [[Orre Colosseum]] Round 6<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Psychic|48|Skill Swap}}<br><small>[[TM48]]</small><br />
| {{m|Skill Swap}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
| [[Deep Colosseum]] Round 2<br />
| [[Orre Colosseum]] Round 3<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Dark|49|Snatch}}<br><small>[[TM49]]</small><br />
| {{m|Snatch}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
| [[Miror B.]]'s Hideout<br />
| [[Realgam Colosseum]] Round 1<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fire|50|Overheat}}<br><small>[[TM50]]</small><br />
| {{m|Overheat}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
| [[Deep Colosseum]] Round 1<br />
| Area 6 of [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|}<br />
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{{Project ItemDex notice}}<br />
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[[it:Elenco delle posizioni delle MT e delle MN (terza generazione)]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=P%E2%98%85DA&diff=2906838P★DA2019-01-01T00:19:48Z<p>ScottOshawott: Added number of Coupons needed for Gold rank</p>
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<div>A '''P★DA''' (Japanese: '''{{j|P★DA}}''' ''P★DA''), or '''Pokémon Digital Assistant''' (Japanese: '''ポケモン デジタル アシスタント''' ''Pokémon Digital Assistant''), is an electronic device owned by [[Wes]] in [[Pokémon Colosseum]] and by [[Michael]] in [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]], in lieu of a {{ga|Trainer Card}} or a [[Pokédex]]. The P★DA keeps track of a {{pkmn|Trainer}}'s ID No., their money and [[Poké Coupon]]s, as well as their playing time. It also has other features, detailed below.<br />
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While only certain Trainers can receive a Pokédex from a [[Pokémon Professor]], it appears that just about anyone can own a P★DA, at least in [[Orre]].<br />
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==In [[Pokémon Colosseum]]==<br />
[[File:PDA closed.png|thumb|160px|Pokémon Colosseum's P★DA, closed]][[File:PDA opened.png|thumb|160px|right|Pokémon Colosseum's P★DA, opened]]<br />
In Pokémon Colosseum, the P★DA can also be used to send and receive e-mail and keep track of the Trainer's [[Poké Coupon]]s. It also has a ringtone that can be customized to the preferences of the user. Additionally, Wes's P★DA was upgraded with the [[Snag List]], a list of the [[Shadow Pokémon]] created by [[Cipher]].<br />
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Another feature of the P★DA is the [[Strategy Memo]], which is awarded to Wes by a teacher inside of the [[Prestige Precept Center|Pre Gym]]. It contains a list of all Pokémon encountered, giving the user their type, Ability, height, weight, and appearance. The only drawbacks are the inability to use it in battle, and the fact that one must update regularly with the teacher who awarded Wes with the device.<br />
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===Rank===<br />
When the player has obtained a certain number of [[Poké Coupon]]s, the [[Poké Ball]] symbol in the P★DA will change colors, identical to a rank system. This is similar to the [[Trainer stars]] mechanic from the main series games.<br />
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; background: #{{colorschemelight|Colosseum}}; border: 3px solid #{{colorschemedark|Colosseum}}"<br />
|-<br />
! Rank<br />
! Poké Coupons Obtained<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| Normal || N/A<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| Bronze || 2,500<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| Silver || 5,000<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| Gold || 30,000<br />
|}<br />
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[[File:PDA Menu.png|thumb|240px|center|Pokémon Colosseum's P★DA, opened and showing information]]<br />
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==In {{Pokémon XD}}==<br />
[[File:PDA closed XD.png|thumb|160px|Pokémon XD's P★DA, closed]]<br />
In Pokémon XD, the P★DA has a new interface, along with a new feature. As in Colosseum, the device keeps track of Poké Coupons, has a [[Strategy Memo]] and e-mail, and can be upgraded to keep track of [[Shadow Pokémon]]. Its new feature is a Spot Monitor, which alerts the player whenever there is activity by [[wild Pokémon]] at one of the three [[Poké Spot]]s.<br />
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Unlike the P★DA in Colosseum, this version has the Strategy Memo installed at the start, and updates it automatically.<br />
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A new feature for the P★DA is the ability to register special titles to Michael when he participates in the [[Orre Colosseum]] and defeats the {{tc|Cipher Admin}}'s along with [[Chobin]] & [[Robo Groudon]], and [[Gonzap]]. The last title is given to Michael after defeating [[Eldes]], fulfilling his request for a battle without having to be enemies after defeating [[Greevil]].<br />
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===Spot Monitor===<br />
[[File:Poké Spot Monitor.png|160px|thumb|Spot Monitor]]<br />
The Spot Monitor is an addition to the P★DA in {{g|XD: Gale of Darkness}}. It is given to [[Michael]] by [[Duking]] at the Rock [[Poké Spot]] after a TV broadcast. It allows Michael to monitor how many {{DL|Pokémon food|Poké Snacks}} are left at a Poké Spot, and see if any Pokémon can be found at one. It is fitted with an alarm which triggers when there is activity at any Poké Spot. Most of the time it is a [[Wild Pokémon]] that is found at one of the Poké Spots, but sometimes it is a mischievous {{p|Munchlax}} that belongs to a fellow [[Orre]] citizen.<br />
[[File:PDA open XD.png|thumb|240px|center|Pokémon XD's P★DA, opened and showing the information]]<br />
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[[ja:P★DA]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9_Coupon&diff=2906837Poké Coupon2019-01-01T00:18:19Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* Rank */ Added number for Gold Rank</p>
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<div>'''Poké Coupons''' (Japanese: '''ポケクーポン''' ''Pokécoupon'') are a form of [[currency]] used in [[Orre]] and [[Pokétopia]]. In Orre, they are merely supplemental to the normal currency of [[Pokémon Dollar]]s; however, in Pokétopia, they are the only way to get new clothing and [[Mystery Gift]] items.<br />
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==In Pokémon Colosseum and Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness==<br />
In [[Pokémon Colosseum]] and [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]], Poké Coupons are used only at [[Mt. Battle]]. These can be used to purchase several kinds of rare {{Berries}} (most of which can only be obtained this way in [[Generation III]] outside of various [[Event Pokémon]]), a number of [[held item]]s, and some powerful [[TM]]s. Poké Coupons can also be spent to use the services of the [[Move Reminder]] or the Mew [[Move Tutor]] in XD. <br />
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After defeating an entire area of Mt. Battle, the player will earn a number of Poké Coupons, with the amount increasing as Trainers make their way up the mountain. In Pokémon Colosseum's Battle Mode and Pokémon XD's run of Mt. Battle, however, the number of Poké Coupons earned for each area is less if the player has any [[Legendary Pokémon]] in their party. Specifically, the player earns 13% less Poké Coupons per Legendary Pokémon in Colosseum's Battle Mode, while in XD, the player earns 15% less Poké Coupons per Legendary Pokémon.<br />
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In addition to this, Poké Coupons can also be gained in XD at [[Realgam Tower]]. This is done either by completing all 50 [[Battle CD]]s (for which the reward is 15,000 Poké Coupons) or by playing [[Battle Bingo]].<br />
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===Rank===<br />
In [[Pokémon Colosseum]], when the player has obtained a certain number of Poké Coupons, the [[Poké Ball]] symbol in the [[P★DA]] will change colors, identical to a rank system. This is similar to the [[Trainer stars]] mechanic from the main series games.<br />
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; background: #{{colorschemelight|Colosseum}}; border: 3px solid #{{colorschemedark|Colosseum}}"<br />
|-<br />
! Rank<br />
! Poké Coupons Obtained<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| Normal || N/A<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| Bronze || 2,500<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| Silver || 5,000<br />
|- style="background:#fff"<br />
| Gold || 30,000<br />
|}<br />
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===Items for purchase===<br />
Below is a list of all of the items available for purchase at Mt. Battle. The items available and the number of Poké Coupons required can vary between the two games.<br />
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{| class="roundy" style="background:#f8f8ff; border: 3px solid #88a"<br />
|- style="background:#ccf"<br />
! colspan=2 style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Item<br />
! Price ({{tt|C|Pokémon Colosseum}})<br />
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Price ({{tt|XD|Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness}})<br />
|- style="background:#ddf"<br />
! colspan=4 | Battle items<br />
|-<br />
| {{bag|Bright Powder}}<br />
| [[Bright Powder|BrightPowder]]<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 10,000PC<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 8,000PC<br />
|-<br />
| {{bag|Choice Band}}<br />
| [[Choice Band]]<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 10,000PC<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 8,000PC<br />
|-<br />
| {{bag|Focus Band}}<br />
| [[Focus Band]]<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 10,000PC<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 8,000PC<br />
|-<br />
| {{bag|King's Rock}}<br />
| [[King's Rock]]<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 10,000PC<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 8,000PC<br />
|-<br />
| {{bag|Leftovers}}<br />
| [[Leftovers]]<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 10,000PC<br />
| style="text-align: right" | &mdash;<br />
|-<br />
| {{bag|Mental Herb}}<br />
| [[Mental Herb]]<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 8,000PC<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 6,000PC<br />
|-<br />
| {{bag|Quick Claw}}<br />
| [[Quick Claw]]<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 10,000PC<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 8,000PC<br />
|-<br />
| {{bag|Scope Lens}}<br />
| [[Scope Lens]]<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 10,000PC<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 8,000PC<br />
|-<br />
| {{bag|Shell Bell}}<br />
| [[Shell Bell]]<br />
| style="text-align: right" | &mdash;<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 8,000PC<br />
|-<br />
| {{bag|White Herb}}<br />
| [[White Herb]]<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 8,000PC<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 6,000PC<br />
|- style="background: #ddf"<br />
! colspan=4 | Berries<br />
|-<br />
| {{bag|Apicot Berry}}<br />
| [[Apicot Berry]]<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 15,000PC<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 15,000PC<br />
|-<br />
| {{bag|Ganlon Berry}}<br />
| [[Ganlon Berry]]<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 15,000PC<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 15,000PC<br />
|-<br />
| {{bag|Petaya Berry}}<br />
| [[Petaya Berry]]<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 15,000PC<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 15,000PC<br />
|-<br />
| {{bag|Salac Berry}}<br />
| [[Salac Berry]]<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 15,000PC<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 15,000PC<br />
|-style="background: #ddf"<br />
! colspan=4 | TMs<br />
|-<br />
| {{bag|TM Ice}}<br />
| {{tm|13|Ice Beam}}<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 4,000PC<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 4,000PC<br />
|-<br />
| {{bag|TM Electric}}<br />
| {{tm|24|Thunderbolt}}<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 4,000PC<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 4,000PC<br />
|-<br />
| {{bag|TM Psychic}}<br />
| {{tm|29|Psychic}}<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 3,500PC<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 3,500PC<br />
|-<br />
| {{bag|TM Ghost}}<br />
| {{tm|30|Shadow Ball}}<br />
| style="text-align: right" | &mdash;<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 4,500PC<br />
|-<br />
| {{bag|TM Normal}}<br />
| {{tm|32|Double Team}}<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 1,500PC<br />
| style="text-align: right" | &mdash;<br />
|-<br />
| {{bag|TM Fire}}<br />
| {{tm|35|Flamethrower}}<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 4,000PC<br />
| style="text-align: right" | 4,000PC<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Move Reminder and Mew Move Tutor===<br />
In [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]], the player can spend 1,000 [[Poké Coupons]] to teach one of their Pokémon any move that its species is able to learn at an earlier [[level]].<br />
<br />
Also found in XD, the [[Move Tutor]] in the lobby can teach {{p|Mew}} moves for the cost of 5,000 [[Poké Coupons]]. This can only be done after beating the game, but it can be done multiple times. Unlike other Move Tutors, this one does not give the player a direct choice in what Mew learns. Instead, he asks a few questions and then offers a full set of moves for Mew.<br />
<br />
This Move Tutor can teach Mew any move it can otherwise learn by [[TM]], [[HM]], or from any other Generation III Move Tutor, plus the moves below:<br />
<br />
{{tutormv/header|xd|none|no}}<br />
{{tutormv|Faint Attack|Dark}}<br />
{{tutormv|Fake Out|Normal}}<br />
{{tutormv|Hypnosis|Psychic}}<br />
{{tutormv|Night Shade|Ghost}}<br />
{{tutormv|Role Play|Psychic}}<br />
{{tutormv|Zap Cannon|Electric}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==In Pokémon Battle Revolution==<br />
{{incomplete|section|needs=Details on how Poké Coupons are earned}}<br />
In [[Pokétopia]], they are won every time a {{OBP|Colosseum|Pokétopia}} is cleared. The amount of Poké Coupons the player can win is proportional to the current difficulty rank of the Colosseum, which increases every time the player wins. Most clothing does not require much of them to purchase, however, all of the Mystery Gift items require a large amount of Poké Coupons to be saved up.<br />
<br />
===Shop===<br />
{{main|Pokémon Battle Revolution#Shop|Pokémon Battle Revolution → Shop}}<br />
The player can spend Poké Coupons to buy items that can be sent to the [[Generation IV]] [[core series]] Pokémon games.<br />
<br />
==In other languages==<br />
{{langtable|color={{gold color light}}|bordercolor={{gold color dark}}<br />
|de=PokéCoupon<br />
|es=Pokévales<br />
|fr=Pokécoupon<br />
|it=Pokécoupon<br />
}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Currency]]<br />
<br />
[[de:PokéCoupons]]<br />
[[it:Poké Coupon]]<br />
[[ja:ポケクーポン]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Snag_List&diff=2906135Snag List2018-12-31T08:07:50Z<p>ScottOshawott: Added sections for each game</p>
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<div>{{incomplete}}<br />
[[File:Snag List.png|thumb|right|200px|Colosseum's Snag List]]<br />
The '''Snag List''' is a [[P★DA]] feature that appears in {{g|Colosseum}} and {{Pokémon XD}}. It is list of the [[Shadow Pokémon]] created by [[Cipher]] that the [[player]] has and is able to [[Snagging|snag]].<br />
<br />
==Overview==<br />
The Snag List is found in the [[P★DA]] to show what Shadow Pokémon the player has or has not encountered or snagged. The list can also show detailed information about all known Shadow Pokémon, such as gender (which is either indicated as {{male}}, {{female}}, or ? in the case of genderless Pokémon), the Trainer that had the Pokémon earlier, the location the Pokémon was seen the first time, and the purification status (either purified or heart closed). If the player successfully catches a Shadow Pokémon, the Snag List will reflect this with a Poké Ball icon (a regular one if purified, a shaded one if not purified). <br />
<br />
===Updates===<br />
At the beginning of both games, all entries in the Snag List only consist of Pokémon already seen by the player. As the player progresses, however, limited information for previously unseen Shadow Pokémon can be viewed as well. In Colosseum, the Snag List is updated by the [[Kids Grid]], while in Pokémon XD, the P★DA can download a list of created Shadow Pokémon from a list left on [[Gorigan]]'s desk.<br />
<br />
==In Pokémon Colosseum==<br />
{{incomplete|section}}<br />
[[File:Snag List detailed info.png|thumb|left|200px|Detailed info of a Shadow {{p|Makuhita}}]]<br />
<br />
<br />
==In Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness==<br />
{{incomplete|section}}<br />
<br />
<br />
{{Stub|Game}}<br />
[[Category:Pokémon Colosseum]]<br />
[[Category:Pokémon XD]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Snag_List&diff=2906092Talk:Snag List2018-12-31T08:00:59Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* What exactly would help improve this? */</p>
<hr />
<div>== What exactly would help improve this? ==<br />
<br />
If a complete snag list would help, I could boot up Colosseum when I have a chance. I have a complete game file on there, so I would be able to provide every non-e-card Pokemon in a list for the game--[[User:Shadowater|Shadowater]] 21:31, 5 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Listing (and showing with pictures) the differences in layout and info between games would be very beneficial. I plan to help with that (minus the pictures, since I have no way of helping with that piece). I also plan to talk about an oddity that occurs in XD when a Pokémon is traded. [[User:ScottOshawott|ScottOshawott]] ([[User talk:ScottOshawott|talk]]) 08:00, 31 December 2018 (UTC)</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Snag_List&diff=2906076Snag List2018-12-31T07:57:22Z<p>ScottOshawott: Adjusted format</p>
<hr />
<div>{{incomplete}}<br />
[[File:Snag List.png|thumb|right|200px|Colosseum's Snag List]]<br />
The '''Snag List''' is a [[P★DA]] feature that appears in {{g|Colosseum}} and {{Pokémon XD}}. It is list of the [[Shadow Pokémon]] created by [[Cipher]] that the [[player]] has and is able to [[Snagging|snag]].<br />
<br />
[[File:Snag List detailed info.png|thumb|left|200px|Detailed info of a Shadow {{p|Makuhita}}]]<br />
<br />
==Overview==<br />
The Snag List is found in the [[P★DA]] to show what Shadow Pokémon the player has or has not encountered or snagged. The list can also show detailed information about all known Shadow Pokémon, such as gender (which is either indicated as {{male}}, {{female}}, or ? in the case of genderless Pokémon), the Trainer that had the Pokémon earlier, the location the Pokémon was seen the first time, and the purification status (either purified or heart closed). If the player successfully catches a Shadow Pokémon, the Snag List will reflect this with a Poké Ball icon (a regular one if purified, a shaded one if not purified). <br />
<br />
===Updates===<br />
At the beginning of both games, most of these entries only consist of Pokémon already seen by the player, but as the player progresses, there will be limited information for previously unseen Shadow Pokémon as well. In Colosseum, the Snag List is updated by the [[Kids Grid]], while in Pokémon XD, the P★DA can download a list of created Shadow Pokémon from a list left on [[Gorigan]]'s desk.<br />
<br />
<br />
{{Stub|Game}}<br />
[[Category:Pokémon Colosseum]]<br />
[[Category:Pokémon XD]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Strategy_Memo&diff=2905978Strategy Memo2018-12-31T07:35:13Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* Ordering */ Added incomplete notation</p>
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<div>[[File:Strategy Memo.png|thumb|250px|Strategy Memo's main view in Pokémon Colosseum]]<br />
The '''Strategy Memo''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|攻略メモ|こうりゃくメモ}}''' ''Strategy Memo'') is a [[Pokédex]]-like feature of the [[P★DA]] found in {{g|Colosseum}} and {{g|XD: Gale of Darkness}}. The feature is obtained as an upgrade in Colosseum, while it comes with the P★DA in XD.<br />
<br />
==Overview==<br />
The Strategy Memo allows {{player}}s to look at Pokémon that have been encountered, similar to a [[Pokédex]]. It differs from the Pokédex in that it lacks numerical modes and detailed entries; however, the Strategy Memo lists the [[Type|types]] and [[Ability|Abilities]] of Pokémon that are seen, and full information such as the height and weight is also provided even if the Pokémon is not caught. The full information on a Pokémon is only obtainable in Pokémon Colosseum by talking to the {{tc|teacher}} in [[Phenac City]] who installed the upgrade. In Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness, such information is automatically obtained.<br />
<br />
==Specific Functions==<br />
===Ordering===<br />
{{incomplete|section|needs=List of ordering methods in other localizations}}<br />
The following are the options for how Pokémon can be listed:<br />
*Alphabetical (default setting)<br />
*Heaviest (ordered from heaviest to lightest weight)<br />
*Lightest (ordered from lightest to heaviest weight)<br />
*Tallest (ordered from biggest to smallest height)<br />
*Smallest (ordered from smallest to biggest height)<br />
<br />
===Search Options===<br />
The following are options to search for specific Pokémon:<br />
*Name (uses the first letter in the name; done in a batch of two to three letters alphabetically)<br />
*Color<br />
*Type (Either a single type or a combination of types can be searched for)<br />
<br />
==Pokémon Not Found In-Game==<br />
{{incomplete|section|needs=List of Pokémon that are not found in each game}}<br />
In both Colosseum and XD, not all 386 Pokémon (the total number of Pokémon available in [[Generation III]]) are able to be seen in-game. Thus, if a player wishes to obtain a complete Strategy Memo, they must [[trade]] with the [[Hoenn]] or [[Kanto]] [[Game Boy Advance]] games to obtain Pokémon that are not seen in-game.<br />
<br />
==In other languages==<br />
{{langtable|color={{colo color}}|bordercolor={{XD color}}<br />
|fr=Memo<br />
|de=Taktik-Memo<br />
|it=Pokémemo<br />
|es=Estratex}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Lists]]<br />
[[Category:Equipment]]<br />
[[Category:Pokémon Colosseum]]<br />
[[Category:Pokémon XD]]<br />
<br />
[[ja:攻略メモ]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Strategy_Memo&diff=2905871Strategy Memo2018-12-31T07:17:29Z<p>ScottOshawott: Adjusted format; added specific information on how the Strategy Memo can be ordered and what search options are available; created section to discuss Pokémon avaiability in each game</p>
<hr />
<div>[[File:Strategy Memo.png|thumb|250px|Strategy Memo's main view in Pokémon Colosseum]]<br />
The '''Strategy Memo''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|攻略メモ|こうりゃくメモ}}''' ''Strategy Memo'') is a [[Pokédex]]-like feature of the [[P★DA]] found in {{g|Colosseum}} and {{g|XD: Gale of Darkness}}. The feature is obtained as an upgrade in Colosseum, while it comes with the P★DA in XD.<br />
<br />
==Overview==<br />
The Strategy Memo allows {{player}}s to look at Pokémon that have been encountered, similar to a [[Pokédex]]. It differs from the Pokédex in that it lacks numerical modes and detailed entries; however, the Strategy Memo lists the [[Type|types]] and [[Ability|Abilities]] of Pokémon that are seen, and full information such as the height and weight is also provided even if the Pokémon is not caught. The full information on a Pokémon is only obtainable in Pokémon Colosseum by talking to the {{tc|teacher}} in [[Phenac City]] who installed the upgrade. In Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness, such information is automatically obtained.<br />
<br />
==Specific Functions==<br />
===Ordering===<br />
The following are the options for how Pokémon can be listed:<br />
*Alphabetical (default setting)<br />
*Heaviest (ordered from heaviest to lightest weight)<br />
*Lightest (ordered from lightest to heaviest weight)<br />
*Tallest (ordered from biggest to smallest height)<br />
*Smallest (ordered from smallest to biggest height)<br />
<br />
===Search Options===<br />
The following are options to search for specific Pokémon:<br />
*Name (uses the first letter in the name; done in a batch of two to three letters alphabetically)<br />
*Color<br />
*Type (Either a single type or a combination of types can be searched for)<br />
<br />
==Pokémon Not Found In-Game==<br />
{{incomplete|section|needs=List of Pokémon that are not found in each game}}<br />
In both Colosseum and XD, not all 386 Pokémon (the total number of Pokémon available in [[Generation III]]) are able to be seen in-game. Thus, if a player wishes to obtain a complete Strategy Memo, they must [[trade]] with the [[Hoenn]] or [[Kanto]] [[Game Boy Advance]] games to obtain Pokémon that are not seen in-game.<br />
<br />
==In other languages==<br />
{{langtable|color={{colo color}}|bordercolor={{XD color}}<br />
|fr=Memo<br />
|de=Taktik-Memo<br />
|it=Pokémemo<br />
|es=Estratex}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Lists]]<br />
[[Category:Equipment]]<br />
[[Category:Pokémon Colosseum]]<br />
[[Category:Pokémon XD]]<br />
<br />
[[ja:攻略メモ]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=The_Under_Subway&diff=2904502The Under Subway2018-12-30T06:02:22Z<p>ScottOshawott: Edited typo</p>
<hr />
<div>{{incomplete|2=Missing complete layout images}}<br />
{{Infobox location<br />
|image=The Under Subway.png<br />
|type=ground<br />
|location_name=The Under Subway<br />
|japanese_name=ダークライナー<br />
|translated_name=Dark Liner<br />
|location=From [[The Under]] to the [[Cipher Lab|Shadow PKMN Lab]]<br />
|region=Orre<br />
|generation={{gen|III}}<br />
|map=Orre The Under Map.png<br />
|mapsize=300px<br />
}}<br />
'''The Under Subway''' (Japanese: '''ダークライナー''' ''Dark Liner'') runs from [[The Under]] to the [[Cipher Lab|Shadow PKMN Lab]]. It was once used by miners before [[Cipher]] revamped it to transport [[Shadow Pokémon]]. The only way to access it is to go down the stairs from the TV studio, or the [[Under Colosseum]]. Inside are rooms where winners of the Under Colosseum challenges may stay in order to receive a promised Shadow Pokémon from [[Venus]]. Past the hallways is a system of staircases, that travel down to the bottom to access The Under Subway. In order to protect the station, security has been tightened with Trainers, each possessing their own Shadow Pokémon, all of whom work for Venus. The Subway can also be accessed easily in an elevator which passes the whole system of staircases.<br />
<br />
The train that runs on it, the '''Shadow Liner''', is filled with cages to transport [[Ein]]'s living experiments from the Lab and to The Under. [[Wes]] and [[Rui]] tried to enter the Shadow PKMN Lab via The Under Subway, only to have their path destroyed by a couple of Ein's minions.<br />
<br />
It is unclear where it was originally sent to, as the Shadow PKMN Lab is in the middle of the desert, and there was nothing there before it.<br />
<br />
==Items==<br />
{{itlisth|Ground}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Timer Ball|In a side room, accessible after defeating Liaks|Colo=yes|display={{ball|Timer}} ×2}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Max Potion|In a side room, accessible after defeating Liaks|Colo=yes|display=[[Max Potion]] ×2}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Ultra Ball|Northeast of the elevator|Colo=yes|display={{ball|Ultra}} ×4}}<br />
{{Itemlist|BlackGlasses|At [[The Under]] train station, in a storage room north of the train|Colo=yes|display=[[Black Glasses|BlackGlasses]]}}<br />
{{Itemlist|None|In front of [[The Under]] train station entrance after encountering [[Venus]] there|Colo=yes|display=[[Subway Key]]}}<br />
{{Itemlist|None|At the [[Cipher Lab|Shadow PKMN Lab]] train station, northeast of the train|Colo=yes|display=[[U-Disk]]}}<br />
{{itlistfoot|Ground}}<br />
<br />
==Trainers==<br />
{{trainerheader|ground|colo}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Hunter f.png{{!}}96px|Hunter|Frena|688|4|285|Shroomish|M|35|None|039|Jigglypuff|F|38|None|216|Teddiursa|M|37|None|207|Gligar|B|43|None|shadow=4|game=colo|36=ヘシティ|37=Heshiti}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|ground}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Chaser f 2.png{{!}}96px|Chaser|Liaks|860|4|281|Kirlia|F|37|None|044|Gloom|M|38|None|315|Roselia|F|38|None|234|Stantler|B|43|None|shadow=4|game=colo|36=シャイナ|37=Shaina}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|ground}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Bodybuilder f.png{{!}}96px|Bodybuilder|Lonia|1,032|4|224|Octillery|M|38|None|206|Dunsparce|M|39|None|284|Masquerain|F|38|None|221|Piloswine|B|43|Soft Sand|shadow=4|game=colo|36=ウィス|37=Wisu}}<br />
{{trainerdiv|ground}}<br />
{{trainerentry|Colo Rider f.png{{!}}96px|Rider|Nelis|430|4|294|Loudred|M|41|None|336|Seviper|M|40|None|222|Corsola|F|41|None|215|Sneasel|B|43|None|shadow=4|game=colo|36=ラル|37=Lal}}<br />
{{trainerfooter|ground|Colo}}<br />
<br />
==Trivia==<br />
* Upon talking to Rider Nelis after battle, her name is misspelled as "Nelia".<br />
<br />
==In other languages==<br />
{|<br />
|<br />
''The Under Subway''<!-- the location --><br />
{{langtable|color={{ground color}}|bordercolor={{ground color dark}}<br />
|fr=Station de Suerebe<br />
|de=Treppe, Orkus-Station<br />
|it=Metro Ipogea<br />
|es=Metro de Basix}}<br />
|<br />
''The Under's Subway''<!-- the subway system --><br />
{{langtable|color={{ground color}}|bordercolor={{ground color dark}}<br />
|fr=Métro de Suerebe<br />
|de=Orkus-Express<br />
|it=Metro Ipogea<br />
|es=Metro de Basix}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
{{-}}<br />
{{Orre}}<br><br />
{{Project Locations notice}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Colosseum locations]]<br />
[[Category:Transportation]]<br />
<br />
[[de:U-Bahn]]<br />
[[fr:Station de Métro]]<br />
[[it:Metropolitana di Ipogea]]<br />
[[ja:ダークライナー]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=List_of_TM_and_HM_locations_in_Generation_III&diff=2904189List of TM and HM locations in Generation III2018-12-29T07:38:56Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* TMs */ Added missing location for TM29 in Hoenn</p>
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<div>This is a '''list of the locations of all [[TM]]s and [[HM]]s in the [[Generation III]]''' games. <br />
<br />
==[[Hoenn]] and [[Kanto]]/[[Sevii Islands]]==<br />
===TMs===<br />
{| class="roundy" style="float:left; text-align:center; background: #{{sapphire color}}; border: 3px solid #{{ruby color}}; padding:2px;" cellspacing="1"<br />
|-<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" rowspan="2" | TM<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" rowspan="2" | Move<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" rowspan="2" | Type<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" colspan="2" | Locations<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" colspan="2" | Price<br />
|-<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | Hoenn<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | Kanto/Sevii<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | Hoenn<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | Kanto/Sevii<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fighting|01|Focus Punch}}<br><small>[[TM01]]</small><br />
| {{m|Focus Punch}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
| {{rt|115|Hoenn}}, {{A|Pickup}}{{sup/3|E}} (1% chance, lv 71-90)<br />
| [[Silph Co.]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Dragon|02|Dragon Claw}}<br><small>[[TM02]]</small><br />
| {{m|Dragon Claw}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
| [[Meteor Falls]]<br />
| {{ka|Victory Road}}<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Water|03|Water Pulse}}<br><small>[[TM03]]</small><br />
| {{m|Water Pulse}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Wallace]]{{sup/3|RS}}/[[Juan]]{{sup/3|E}}<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Misty]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Psychic|04|Calm Mind}}<br><small>[[TM04]]</small><br />
| {{m|Calm Mind}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Tate and Liza]]<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Sabrina]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|05|Roar}}<br><small>[[TM05]]</small><br />
| {{m|Roar}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| {{rt|114|Hoenn}}<br />
| {{rt|4|Kanto}}, [[Celadon Department Store]]<br />
| N/A<br />
| {{PDollar}}1000<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Poison|06|Toxic}}<br><small>[[TM06]]</small><br />
| {{m|Toxic}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
| [[Fiery Path]]<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Koga]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Ice|07|Hail}}<br><small>[[TM07]]</small><br />
| {{m|Hail}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
| [[Shoal Cave]] <br />
| {{ka|Victory Road}}<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fighting|08|Bulk Up}}<br><small>[[TM08]]</small><br />
| {{m|Bulk Up}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Brawly]]<br />
| [[Silph Co.]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Grass|09|Bullet Seed}}<br><small>[[TM09]]</small><br />
| {{m|Bullet Seed}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
| {{rt|104|Hoenn}}<br />
| [[Mt. Moon]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|10|Hidden Power}}<br><small>[[TM10]]</small><br />
| {{m|Hidden Power}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[Fortree City]], [[Slateport City]]<br />
| {{a|Pickup}} (5% chance)<br />
| {{PDollar}}3000<br />
| N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fire|11|Sunny Day}}<br><small>[[TM11]]</small><br />
| {{m|Sunny Day}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
| [[Scorched Slab]], [[Trainer Hill]]{{sup/3|E}}<br />
| {{safari|Kanto}}<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A <br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Dark|12|Taunt}}<br><small>[[TM12]]</small><br />
| {{m|Taunt}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
| [[Trick House]]<br />
| [[Team Rocket Hideout|Rocket Hideout]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Ice|13|Ice Beam}}<br><small>[[TM13]]</small><br />
| {{m|Ice Beam}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
| [[Abandoned Ship]], [[Mauville Game Corner]]<br />
| [[Celadon Game Corner|Rocket Game Corner]] <br />
| colspan=2 |4000[[Coin|C]]<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Ice|14|Blizzard}}<br><small>[[TM14]]</small><br />
| {{m|Blizzard}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
| [[Lilycove Department Store]]<br />
| {{ka|Pokémon Mansion}}<br />
| {{PDollar}}5500<br />
| N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|15|Hyper Beam}}<br><small>[[TM15]]</small><br />
| {{m|Hyper Beam}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[Lilycove Department Store]] <br />
| [[Celadon Department Store]] <br />
| colspan=2 |{{PDollar}}7500<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Psychic|16|Light Screen}}<br><small>[[TM16]]</small><br />
| {{m|Light Screen}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
| [[Lilycove Department Store]] <br />
| [[Celadon Department Store]]<br />
| {{PDollar}}3000<br />
| N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|17|Protect}}<br><small>[[TM17]]</small><br />
| {{m|Protect}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[Lilycove Department Store]] <br />
| [[Kanto Power Plant]] <br />
| {{PDollar}}3000<br />
| N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Water|18|Rain Dance}}<br><small>[[TM18]]</small><br />
| {{m|Rain Dance}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
| [[Abandoned Ship]]<br />
| {{rt|15|Kanto}}<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Grass|19|Giga Drain}}<br><small>[[TM19]]</small><br />
| {{m|Giga Drain}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
| {{rt|123|Hoenn}}, [[Trainer Hill]]{{sup/3|E}}<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Erika]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|20|Safeguard}}<br><small>[[TM20]]</small><br />
| {{m|Safeguard}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[Lilycove Department Store]]<br />
| [[Celadon Department Store]]<br />
| {{PDollar}}3000<br />
| N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|21|Frustration}}<br><small>[[TM21]]</small><br />
| {{m|Frustration}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[Pacifidlog Town]]<br />
| [[Team Rocket Hideout|Rocket Hideout]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Grass|22|SolarBeam}}<br><small>[[TM22]]</small><br />
| {{m|SolarBeam}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
| {{safari|Hoenn}}<br />
| {{ka|Pokémon Mansion}}<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Steel|23|Iron Tail}}<br><small>[[TM23]]</small><br />
| {{m|Iron Tail}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
| [[Meteor Falls]]<br />
| [[Celadon Game Corner|Rocket Game Corner]]<br />
| N/A<br />
| 3500[[Coin|C]]<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Electric|24|Thunderbolt}}<br><small>[[TM24]]</small><br />
| {{m|Thunderbolt}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
| Gift from [[Wattson]], [[Mauville Game Corner]]<br />
| [[Celadon Game Corner|Rocket Game Corner]]<br />
| colspan=2 |4000[[Coin|C]]<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Electric|25|Thunder}}<br><small>[[TM25]]</small><br />
| {{m|Thunder}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
| [[Lilycove Department Store]]<br />
| [[Kanto Power Plant]]<br />
| {{PDollar}}5500<br />
| N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Ground|26|Earthquake}}<br><small>[[TM26]]</small><br />
| {{m|Earthquake}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
| [[Seafloor Cavern]], {{A|Pickup}}{{sup/3|E}} (1% chance, lv 91-100)<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Giovanni]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|27|Return}}<br><small>[[TM27]]</small><br />
| {{m|Return}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[Fallarbor Town]], [[Pacifidlog Town]]<br />
| {{rt|12|Kanto}}<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Ground|28|Dig}}<br><small>[[TM28]]</small><br />
| {{m|Dig}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
| {{rt|114|Hoenn}}<br />
| [[Cerulean City]], [[Celadon Department Store]]<br />
| N/A<br />
| {{PDollar}}2000<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Psychic|29|Psychic}}<br><small>[[TM29]]</small><br />
| {{m|Psychic}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
| [[Mauville Game Corner]], [[Victory Road (Hoenn)|Victory Road]]<br />
| [[Saffron City]]<br />
| 3500[[Coin|C]]<br />
| N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Ghost|30|Shadow Ball}}<br><small>[[TM30]]</small><br />
| {{m|Shadow Ball}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
| [[Mt. Pyre]]<br />
| [[Celadon Game Corner|Rocket Game Corner]]<br />
| N/A<br />
| 4500[[Coin|C]]<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fighting|31|Brick Break}}<br><small>[[TM31]]</small><br />
| {{m|Brick Break}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
| [[Sootopolis City]], [[Trainer Hill]]{{sup/3|E}}<br />
| [[Celadon Department Store]], [[S.S. Anne]]<br />
| N/A<br />
| {{PDollar}}3000<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|32|Double Team}}<br><small>[[TM32]]</small><br />
| {{m|Double Team}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| {{rt|113|Hoenn}}, [[Mauville Game Corner]]<br />
| {{safari|Kanto}}<br />
| 1500[[Coin|C]]<br />
| N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Psychic|33|Reflect}}<br><small>[[TM33]]</small><br />
| {{m|Reflect}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
| [[Lilycove Department Store]]<br />
| [[Celadon Department Store]]<br />
| {{PDollar}}3000<br />
| N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Electric|34|Shock Wave}}<br><small>[[TM34]]</small><br />
| {{m|Shock Wave}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Wattson]]<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Lt. Surge]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fire|35|Flamethrower}}<br><small>[[TM35]]</small><br />
| {{m|Flamethrower}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
| [[Mauville Game Corner]]<br />
| [[Celadon Game Corner|Rocket Game Corner]]<br />
| colspan=2 |4000[[Coin|C]]<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Poison|36|Sludge Bomb}}<br><small>[[TM36]]</small><br />
| {{m|Sludge Bomb}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
| [[Dewford Town]]<br />
| [[Rocket Warehouse]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Rock|37|Sandstorm}}<br><small>[[TM37]]</small><br />
| {{m|Sandstorm}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
| {{rt|111|Hoenn}}<br />
| {{ka|Victory Road}}<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fire|38|Fire Blast}}<br><small>[[TM38]]</small><br />
| {{m|Fire Blast}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
| [[Lilycove Department Store]]<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Blaine]]<br />
| {{PDollar}}5500<br />
| N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Rock|39|Rock Tomb}}<br><small>[[TM39]]</small><br />
| {{m|Rock Tomb}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Roxanne]]<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Brock]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Flying|40|Aerial Ace}}<br><small>[[TM40]]</small><br />
| {{m|Aerial Ace}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Winona]]<br />
| {{rt|9|Kanto}}<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Dark|41|Torment}}<br><small>[[TM41]]</small><br />
| {{m|Torment}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
| [[Slateport City]]<br />
| [[Silph Co.]]<br />
| colspan=2 | N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|42|Facade}}<br><small>[[TM42]]</small><br />
| {{m|Facade}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Norman]]<br />
| [[Memorial Pillar]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|43|Secret Power}}<br><small>[[TM43]]</small><br />
| {{m|Secret Power}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| {{rt|111|Hoenn}}, [[Slateport City]]<br />
| {{rt|24|Kanto}}, [[Celadon Department Store]]<br />
| colspan=2 |{{PDollar}}3000<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Psychic|44|Rest}}<br><small>[[TM44]]</small><br />
| {{m|Rest}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
| [[Lilycove City]], {{a|Pickup}}{{sup/3|E}} (1% chance, lv 51-70)<br />
| [[S.S. Anne]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|45|Attract}}<br><small>[[TM45]]</small><br />
| {{m|Attract}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[Verdanturf Town]]<br />
| {{rt|24|Kanto}}, [[Celadon Department Store]]<br />
| N/A<br />
| {{PDollar}}3000<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Dark|46|Thief}}<br><small>[[TM46]]</small><br />
| {{m|Thief}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
| [[Slateport City]]<br />
| [[Mt. Moon]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Steel|47|Steel Wing}}<br><small>[[TM47]]</small><br />
| {{m|Steel Wing}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
| [[Granite Cave]]<br />
| {{safari|Kanto}}<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Psychic|48|Skill Swap}}<br><small>[[TM48]]</small><br />
| {{m|Skill Swap}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
| [[Mt. Pyre]]<br />
| {{rt|12|Kanto}}<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Dark|49|Snatch}}<br><small>[[TM49]]</small><br />
| {{m|Snatch}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
| [[S.S. Tidal]]<br />
| [[Team Rocket Hideout|Rocket Hideout]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fire|50|Overheat}}<br><small>[[TM50]]</small><br />
| {{m|Overheat}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Flannery]]<br />
| {{ka|Victory Road}}<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|}{{-}}<br />
<br />
===HMs===<br />
{| class="roundy" style="float:left; text-align:center; background: #{{sapphire color}}; border: 3px solid #{{ruby color}}; padding:2px;" cellspacing="1"<br />
|-<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" rowspan="2" | HM<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" rowspan="2" | Move<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" rowspan="2" | Type<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" colspan="2" | Locations<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" colspan="2" | Badge<br />
|-<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | Hoenn<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | Kanto/Sevii<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | Hoenn<br />
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | Kanto<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{HMic|Normal|01|Cut}}<br><small>[[HM01]]</small><br />
| {{m|Cut}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[Rustboro City]]<br />
| [[S.S. Anne]]<br />
| | [[File:Stone Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Stone}}</small><br />
| | [[File:Cascade Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Cascade}}</small><br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{HMic|Flying|02|Fly}}<br><small>[[HM02]]</small><br />
| {{m|Fly}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
| [[Fortree City]]<br />
| {{rt|16|Kanto}}<br />
| | [[File:Feather Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Feather}}</small><br />
| | [[File:Thunder Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Thunder}}</small><br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{HMic|Water|03|Surf}}<br><small>[[HM03]]</small><br />
| {{m|Surf}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
| [[Petalburg City]]<br />
| {{safari|Kanto}}<br />
| | [[File:Balance Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Balance}}</small><br />
| | [[File:Soul Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Soul}}</small><br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{HMic|Normal|04|Strength}}<br><small>[[HM04]]</small><br />
| {{m|Strength}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[Rusturf Tunnel]]<br />
| [[Fuchsia City]]<br />
| | [[File:Heat Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Heat}}</small><br />
| | [[File:Rainbow Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Rainbow}}</small><br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{HMic|Normal|05|Flash}}<br><small>[[HM05]]</small><br />
| {{m|Flash}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[Granite Cave]]<br />
| {{rt|2|Kanto}}<br />
| | [[File:Knuckle Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Knuckle}}</small><br />
| | [[File:Boulder Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Boulder}}</small><br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{HMic|Fighting|06|Rock Smash}}<br><small>[[HM06]]</small><br />
| {{m|Rock Smash}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
| [[Mauville City]]<br />
| [[Ember Spa]]<br />
| | [[File:Dynamo Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Dynamo}}</small><br />
| | [[File:Marsh Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Marsh}}</small><br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{HMic|Water|07|Waterfall}}<br><small>[[HM07]]</small><br />
| {{m|Waterfall}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
| [[Cave of Origin]]{{sup/3|RS}}, [[Sootopolis City]]{{sup/3|E}}<br />
| [[Icefall Cave]]<br />
| | [[File:Rain Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Rain}}</small><br />
| | [[File:Volcano Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Volcano}}</small><br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{HMic|Water|08|Dive}}<br><small>[[HM08]]</small><br />
| {{m|Dive}}{{tt|*|Dive is unavailable in Kanto}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
| [[Mossdeep City]]<br />
| | &mdash;<br />
| | [[File:Mind Badge.png|20px]]<br><small>{{badge|Mind}}</small><br />
| | &mdash;<br />
|}{{-}}<br />
<br />
==[[Orre]]==<br />
===TMs===<br />
{| class="roundy" style="float:left; text-align:center; background: #{{colo color dark}}; border: 3px solid #{{colo color}}; padding:2px;" cellspacing="1"<br />
|-<br />
! style="background: #{{colo color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" rowspan="2" | TM<br />
! style="background: #{{colo color light}};" rowspan="2" | Move<br />
! style="background: #{{colo color light}};" rowspan="2" | Type<br />
! style="background: #{{colo color light}};" colspan="2" | Locations<br />
! style="background: #{{colo color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" colspan="2"| Price<br />
|-<br />
! style="background: #{{colo color light}};" | [[Pokémon Colosseum|Colosseum]]<br />
! style="background: #{{colo color light}};" | [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|XD]]<br />
! style="background: #{{colo color light}};" | [[Pokémon Colosseum|Colosseum]]<br />
! style="background: #{{colo color light}};" | [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|XD]]<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fighting|01|Focus Punch}}<br><small>[[TM01]]</small><br />
| {{m|Focus Punch}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
| [[Pyrite Colosseum]]<br />
| Clear [[Battle CD]] 21 at [[Realgam Tower]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Dragon|02|Dragon Claw}}<br><small>[[TM02]]</small><br />
| {{m|Dragon Claw}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
| [[Deep Colosseum]] Battle 4<br />
| Round 7 of the [[Orre Colosseum]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Water|03|Water Pulse}}<br><small>[[TM03]]</small><br />
| {{m|Water Pulse}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| Area 2 of [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Psychic|04|Calm Mind}}<br><small>[[TM04]]</small><br />
| {{m|Calm Mind}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| Area 7 of [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|05|Roar}}<br><small>[[TM05]]</small><br />
| {{m|Roar}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[Pyrite Colosseum]] Battle 3<br />
| Round 4 of the [[Pyrite Colosseum]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Poison|06|Toxic}}<br><small>[[TM06]]</small><br />
| {{m|Toxic}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
| Complete [[Pyrite Colosseum]]<br />
| Round 1 of the [[Orre Colosseum]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Ice|07|Hail}}<br><small>[[TM07]]</small><br />
| {{m|Hail}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
| [[Pyrite Colosseum]] Battle 2<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fighting|08|Bulk Up}}<br><small>[[TM08]]</small><br />
| {{m|Bulk Up}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| Area 8 of [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Grass|09|Bullet Seed}}<br><small>[[TM09]]</small><br />
| {{m|Bullet Seed}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| Receive from [[Eagun]]'s wife [[Beluh]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|10|Hidden Power}}<br><small>[[TM10]]</small><br />
| {{m|Hidden Power}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[The Under]] Shop<br />
| [[Realgam Tower]]<br />
| colspan=2 |{{pdollar}}3000<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fire|11|Sunny Day}}<br><small>[[TM11]]</small><br />
| {{m|Sunny Day}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
| [[Phenac Stadium]] Battle 2<br />
| Clear [[Battle CD]] 49 at [[Realgam Tower]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Dark|12|Taunt}}<br><small>[[TM12]]</small><br />
| {{m|Taunt}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
| [[Deep Colosseum]] Battle 1<br />
| Round 2 of the [[Pyrite Colosseum]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Ice|13|Ice Beam}}<br><small>[[TM13]]</small><br />
| {{m|Ice Beam}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
| [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| [[Phenac City]], [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Ice|14|Blizzard}}<br><small>[[TM14]]</small><br />
| {{m|Blizzard}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
| [[The Under]] Shop<br />
| [[Realgam Tower]]<br />
| colspan=2 |{{pdollar}}5500<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|15|Hyper Beam}}<br><small>[[TM15]]</small><br />
| {{m|Hyper Beam}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[The Under]] Shop<br />
| [[Realgam Tower]]<br />
| colspan=2 |{{pdollar}}7500<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Psychic|16|Light Screen}}<br><small>[[TM16]]</small><br />
| {{m|Light Screen}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
| [[The Under]] Shop<br />
| [[Realgam Tower]]<br />
| colspan=2 |{{pdollar}}3000<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|17|Protect}}<br><small>[[TM17]]</small><br />
| {{m|Protect}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[The Under]] Shop<br />
| [[Realgam Tower]]<br />
| colspan=2 |{{pdollar}}3000<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Water|18|Rain Dance}}<br><small>[[TM18]]</small><br />
| {{m|Rain Dance}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
| [[Phenac Stadium]] Battle 1<br />
| Clear [[Battle CD]] 50 at [[Realgam Tower]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Grass|19|Giga Drain}}<br><small>[[TM19]]</small><br />
| {{m|Giga Drain}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
| [[Phenac Stadium]] Battle 3<br />
| [[Realgam Colosseum]] Round 3<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|20|Safeguard}}<br><small>[[TM20]]</small><br />
| {{m|Safeguard}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[The Under]] Shop<br />
| [[Realgam Tower]]<br />
| colspan=2 |{{pdollar}}3000<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|21|Frustration}}<br><small>[[TM21]]</small><br />
| {{m|Frustration}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Grass|22|SolarBeam}}<br><small>[[TM22]]</small><br />
| {{m|SolarBeam}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
| [[Phenac Stadium]] Battle 4<br />
| Round 4 of the [[Realgam Colosseum]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Steel|23|Iron Tail}}<br><small>[[TM23]]</small><br />
| {{m|Iron Tail}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
| [[Under Colosseum]] Battle 4<br />
| Round 3 of the [[Realgam Colosseum]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Electric|24|Thunderbolt}}<br><small>[[TM24]]</small><br />
| {{m|Thunderbolt}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
| [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| [[Cipher Key Lair]], [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| colspan=2 |4000PC<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Electric|25|Thunder}}<br><small>[[TM25]]</small><br />
| {{m|Thunder}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
| [[The Under]] Shop<br />
| [[Realgam Tower]]<br />
| colspan=2 |{{pdollar}}5500<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Ground|26|Earthquake}}<br><small>[[TM26]]</small><br />
| {{m|Earthquake}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
| [[Shadow PKMN Lab]]<br />
| [[Cipher Key Lair]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|27|Return}}<br><small>[[TM27]]</small><br />
| {{m|Return}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Justy]]<br />
| Round 2 of the [[Orre Colosseum]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Ground|28|Dig}}<br><small>[[TM28]]</small><br />
| {{m|Dig}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Psychic|29|Psychic}}<br><small>[[TM29]]</small><br />
| {{m|Psychic}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
| [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| [[Snagem Hideout]], [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| colspan=2 |3500PC<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Ghost|30|Shadow Ball}}<br><small>[[TM30]]</small><br />
| {{m|Shadow Ball}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
| [[Under Colosseum]] Battle 3<br />
| [[Snagem Hideout]], [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| N/A<br />
| 4500PC<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fighting|31|Brick Break}}<br><small>[[TM31]]</small><br />
| {{m|Brick Break}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
| [[Pyrite Colosseum]] Battle 4<br />
| Round 1 of the [[Pyrite Colosseum]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|32|Double Team}}<br><small>[[TM32]]</small><br />
| {{m|Double Team}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| Prize for defeating [[Justy]]<br />
| 1500PC<br />
| N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Psychic|33|Reflect}}<br><small>[[TM33]]</small><br />
| {{m|Reflect}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
| [[The Under]] Shop<br />
| [[Realgam Tower]]<br />
| colspan=2 |{{pdollar}}3000<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Electric|34|Shock Wave}}<br><small>[[TM34]]</small><br />
| {{m|Shock Wave}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| Area 3 of [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fire|35|Flamethrower}}<br><small>[[TM35]]</small><br />
| {{m|Flamethrower}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
| [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| [[S.S. Libra]], [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| colspan=2 |4000PC<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Poison|36|Sludge Bomb}}<br><small>[[TM36]]</small><br />
| {{m|Sludge Bomb}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
| [[Under Colosseum]] Battle 2<br />
| Round 4 of the [[Orre Colosseum]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Rock|37|Sandstorm}}<br><small>[[TM37]]</small><br />
| {{m|Sandstorm}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
| [[Under Colosseum]] Battle 1<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fire|38|Fire Blast}}<br><small>[[TM38]]</small><br />
| {{m|Fire Blast}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
| [[The Under]] Shop<br />
| [[Realgam Tower]]<br />
| colspan=2 |{{pdollar}}5500<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Rock|39|Rock Tomb}}<br><small>[[TM39]]</small><br />
| {{m|Rock Tomb}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| Area 5 of [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Flying|40|Aerial Ace}}<br><small>[[TM40]]</small><br />
| {{m|Aerial Ace}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| Area 9 of [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Dark|41|Torment}}<br><small>[[TM41]]</small><br />
| {{m|Torment}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
| Rollerboy Kaib in [[Phenac City]]<br />
| Round 3 of the [[Pyrite Colosseum]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|42|Facade}}<br><small>[[TM42]]</small><br />
| {{m|Facade}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| Area 4 of [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|43|Secret Power}}<br><small>[[TM43]]</small><br />
| {{m|Secret Power}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Psychic|44|Rest}}<br><small>[[TM44]]</small><br />
| {{m|Rest}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
| [[Deep Colosseum]] Battle 3<br />
| Round 5 of the [[Orre Colosseum]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Normal|45|Attract}}<br><small>[[TM45]]</small><br />
| {{m|Attract}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
| [[The Under]] Studio<br />
| [[Gateon Port]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Dark|46|Thief}}<br><small>[[TM46]]</small><br />
| {{m|Thief}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
| [[Pyrite Town]] Jail<br />
| &mdash;<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Steel|47|Steel Wing}}<br><small>[[TM47]]</small><br />
| {{m|Steel Wing}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
| Defeat [[Dakim]] at [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| Round 6 of the [[Orre Colosseum]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Psychic|48|Skill Swap}}<br><small>[[TM48]]</small><br />
| {{m|Skill Swap}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
| [[Deep Colosseum]] Battle 2<br />
| Round 3 of the [[Orre Colosseum]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Dark|49|Snatch}}<br><small>[[TM49]]</small><br />
| {{m|Snatch}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
| [[Miror B.]]'s Hideout<br />
| Round 1 of the [[Realgam Colosseum]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
! {{TMic|Fire|50|Overheat}}<br><small>[[TM50]]</small><br />
| {{m|Overheat}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
| [[Deep Colosseum]] Battle 1<br />
| Area 6 of [[Mt. Battle]]<br />
| colspan=2 |N/A<br />
|}<br />
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{{TM and HM locations}}<br><br />
{{Project ItemDex notice}}<br />
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[[Category:Lists]]<br />
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[[it:Elenco delle posizioni delle MT e delle MN (terza generazione)]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Zangoose_(Pok%C3%A9mon)/Generation_III_learnset&diff=2903838Zangoose (Pokémon)/Generation III learnset2018-12-28T07:34:54Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* By {{pkmn|breeding}} */ Forgot to switch listings for Razor Wind</p>
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<div>{{pokelinkback|335|Zangoose|3}}<br />
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br />
{{learnlist/levelh|Zangoose|Normal|Normal|3|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/level3|1|Scratch|Normal|40|100|35|Tough|4|0||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level3|4|Leer|Normal|&mdash;|100|30|Cool|2|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/level3|7|Quick Attack|Normal|40|100|30|Cool|3|0||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level3|10|Swords Dance|Normal|&mdash;|&mdash;|30|Beauty|1|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/level3|13|Fury Cutter|Bug|10|95|20|Cool|3|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/level3|19|Slash|Normal|70|100|20|Cool|3|0||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level3|25|Pursuit|Dark|40|100|20|Smart|2|1}}<br />
{{learnlist/level3|31|Crush Claw|Normal|75|95|10|Cool|1|4||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level3|37|Taunt|Dark|&mdash;|100|20|Smart|2|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/level3|46|Detect|Fighting|&mdash;|&mdash;|5|Cool|2|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/level3|55|False Swipe|Normal|40|100|40|Cool|1|3||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/levelf|Zangoose|Normal|Normal|3|3}}<br />
<br />
====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====<br />
{{learnlist/tmh|Zangoose|Normal|Normal|3|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM01|Focus Punch|Fighting|150|100|20|Tough|3|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM03|Water Pulse|Water|60|100|20|Beauty|2|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM05|Roar|Normal|&mdash;|100|20|Cool|3|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM06|Toxic|Poison|&mdash;|85|10|Smart|3|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|&mdash;|100|15|Smart|3|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|&mdash;|&mdash;|5|Beauty|1|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM12|Taunt|Dark|&mdash;|100|20|Smart|2|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM13|Ice Beam|Ice|95|100|10|Beauty|2|1}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM14|Blizzard|Ice|120|70|5|Beauty|4|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM17|Protect|Normal|&mdash;|&mdash;|10|Cute|1|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|&mdash;|&mdash;|5|Tough|1|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM19|Giga Drain|Grass|60|100|10|Smart|2|1}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM21|Frustration|Normal|&mdash;|100|20|Cute|1|0||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM22|SolarBeam|Grass|120|100|10|Cool|4|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM23|Iron Tail|Steel|100|75|15|Cool|1|4}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM24|Thunderbolt|Electric|95|100|15|Cool|4|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM25|Thunder|Electric|120|70|10|Cool|2|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM27|Return|Normal|&mdash;|100|20|Cute|1|0||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM28|Dig|Ground|60|100|10|Smart|1|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM30|Shadow Ball|Ghost|80|100|15|Smart|3|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM31|Brick Break|Fighting|75|100|15|Cool|1|4}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM32|Double Team|Normal|&mdash;|&mdash;|15|Cool|2|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM34|Shock Wave|Electric|60|&mdash;|20|Cool|2|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM35|Flamethrower|Fire|95|100|15|Beauty|4|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM38|Fire Blast|Fire|120|85|5|Beauty|4|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM40|Aerial Ace|Flying|60|&mdash;|20|Cool|2|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM42|Facade|Normal|70|100|20|Cute|2|0||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM43|Secret Power|Normal|70|100|20|Smart|1|0||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM44|Rest|Psychic|&mdash;|&mdash;|10|Cute|2|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM45|Attract|Normal|&mdash;|100|15|Cute|2|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM46|Thief|Dark|40|100|10|Tough|1|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|HM04|Strength|Normal|80|100|15|Tough|2|1||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|HM06|Rock Smash|Fighting|20|100|15|Tough|1|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tmf|Zangoose|Normal|Normal|3|3}}<br />
<br />
====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br />
{{learnlist/breedh|Zangoose|Normal|Normal|3|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed3|{{MSP|287|Slakoth}}{{MSP|288|Vigoroth}}{{MSP|289|Slaking}}|Counter|Fighting|&mdash;|100|20|Tough|2|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed3|{{MSP|324|Torkoal}}|Curse|???|&mdash;|&mdash;|10|Tough|3|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed3|{{MSP|032|Nidoran♂}}{{MSP|033|Nidorino}}{{MSP|034|Nidoking}}{{MSP|135|Jolteon}}{{MSP|256|Combusken}}{{MSP|257|Blaziken}}|Double Kick|Fighting|30|100|30|Cool|2|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed3|{{MSP|206|Dunsparce}}{{MSP|231|Phanpy}}{{MSP|232|Donphan}}{{MSP|263|Zigzagoon}}{{MSP|264|Linoone}}{{MSP|287|Slakoth}}<br>{{MSP|288|Vigoroth}}{{MSP|289|Slaking}}{{MSP|324|Torkoal}}{{MSP|327|Spinda}}|Flail|Normal|&mdash;|100|15|Cute|1|0||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed3|{{MSP|274|Nuzleaf}}{{MSP|275|Shiftry}}{{MSP|359|Absol}}|Razor Wind|Normal|80|100|10|Cool|3|0||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed3|{{MSP|037|Vulpix}}{{MSP|058|Growlithe}}{{MSP|059|Arcanine}}{{MSP|209|Snubbull}}{{MSP|210|Granbull}}{{MSP|228|Houndour}}<br>{{MSP|229|Houndoom}}{{MSP|261|Poochyena}}{{MSP|262|Mightyena}}{{MSP|293|Whismur}}{{MSP|294|Loudred}}{{MSP|295|Exploud}}<br>{{MSP|309|Electrike}}{{MSP|310|Manectric}}|Roar|Normal|&mdash;|100|20|Cool|3|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/breedf|Zangoose|Normal|Normal|3|3}}<br />
<br />
====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====<br />
{{learnlist/tutorh|Zangoose|Normal|Normal|3|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Body Slam|Normal|85|100|15|Tough|1|4||'''|yes|yes|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Counter|Fighting|&mdash;|100|20|Tough|2|0|||yes|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Defense Curl|Normal|&mdash;|&mdash;|40|Cute|2|0|||no|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Double-Edge|Normal|120|100|15|Tough|6|0||'''|yes|yes|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|DynamicPunch|Fighting|100|50|5|Cool|2|1|||no|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Endure|Normal|&mdash;|&mdash;|10|Tough|2|0|||no|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Fire Punch|Fire|75|100|15|Beauty|4|0|||no|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Fury Cutter|Bug|10|95|20|Cool|3|0|||no|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Ice Punch|Ice|75|100|15|Beauty|4|0|||no|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Icy Wind|Ice|55|95|15|Beauty|1|3|||no|yes|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Mega Kick|Normal|120|75|5|Cool|4|0||'''|yes|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Mega Punch|Normal|80|85|20|Tough|4|0||'''|yes|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Mimic|Normal|&mdash;|&mdash;|10|Cute|1|0|||yes|yes|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Mud-Slap|Ground|20|100|10|Cute|2|1|||no|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Rock Slide|Rock|75|90|10|Tough|1|3|||yes|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Rollout|Rock|30|90|20|Tough|3|0|||no|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Seismic Toss|Fighting|&mdash;|100|20|Tough|2|1|||yes|yes|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Sleep Talk|Normal|&mdash;|&mdash;|10|Cute|3|0|||no|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Snore|Normal|40|100|15|Cute|4|0||'''|no|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Substitute|Normal|&mdash;|&mdash;|10|Smart|2|0|||yes|yes|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Swagger|Normal|&mdash;|90|15|Cute|2|0|||no|yes|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Swift|Normal|60|&mdash;|20|Cool|2|0||'''|no|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Swords Dance|Normal|&mdash;|&mdash;|30|Beauty|1|0|||yes|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|ThunderPunch|Electric|75|100|15|Cool|4|0|||no|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Thunder Wave|Electric|&mdash;|100|20|Cool|2|1|||yes|yes|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutorf|Zangoose|Normal|Normal|3|3}}<br />
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====Special moves====<br />
{{Shadow moves|335|28|Shadow Shed|Shadow Rush|--|--|Refresh|Normal|Brick Break|Fighting|Counter|Fighting|Crush Claw|Normal|xd|Normal|Normal}}<br />
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[[it:Zangoose/Mosse apprese nella terza generazione]]<br />
[[zh:猫鼬斩/第三世代招式表]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Zangoose_(Pok%C3%A9mon)/Generation_III_learnset&diff=2903837Zangoose (Pokémon)/Generation III learnset2018-12-28T07:32:46Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* By {{pkmn|breeding}} */ Fixed incorrect sprite</p>
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<div>{{pokelinkback|335|Zangoose|3}}<br />
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br />
{{learnlist/levelh|Zangoose|Normal|Normal|3|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/level3|1|Scratch|Normal|40|100|35|Tough|4|0||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level3|4|Leer|Normal|&mdash;|100|30|Cool|2|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/level3|7|Quick Attack|Normal|40|100|30|Cool|3|0||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level3|10|Swords Dance|Normal|&mdash;|&mdash;|30|Beauty|1|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/level3|13|Fury Cutter|Bug|10|95|20|Cool|3|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/level3|19|Slash|Normal|70|100|20|Cool|3|0||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level3|25|Pursuit|Dark|40|100|20|Smart|2|1}}<br />
{{learnlist/level3|31|Crush Claw|Normal|75|95|10|Cool|1|4||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level3|37|Taunt|Dark|&mdash;|100|20|Smart|2|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/level3|46|Detect|Fighting|&mdash;|&mdash;|5|Cool|2|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/level3|55|False Swipe|Normal|40|100|40|Cool|1|3||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/levelf|Zangoose|Normal|Normal|3|3}}<br />
<br />
====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====<br />
{{learnlist/tmh|Zangoose|Normal|Normal|3|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM01|Focus Punch|Fighting|150|100|20|Tough|3|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM03|Water Pulse|Water|60|100|20|Beauty|2|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM05|Roar|Normal|&mdash;|100|20|Cool|3|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM06|Toxic|Poison|&mdash;|85|10|Smart|3|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|&mdash;|100|15|Smart|3|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|&mdash;|&mdash;|5|Beauty|1|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM12|Taunt|Dark|&mdash;|100|20|Smart|2|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM13|Ice Beam|Ice|95|100|10|Beauty|2|1}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM14|Blizzard|Ice|120|70|5|Beauty|4|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM17|Protect|Normal|&mdash;|&mdash;|10|Cute|1|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|&mdash;|&mdash;|5|Tough|1|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM19|Giga Drain|Grass|60|100|10|Smart|2|1}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM21|Frustration|Normal|&mdash;|100|20|Cute|1|0||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM22|SolarBeam|Grass|120|100|10|Cool|4|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM23|Iron Tail|Steel|100|75|15|Cool|1|4}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM24|Thunderbolt|Electric|95|100|15|Cool|4|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM25|Thunder|Electric|120|70|10|Cool|2|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM27|Return|Normal|&mdash;|100|20|Cute|1|0||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM28|Dig|Ground|60|100|10|Smart|1|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM30|Shadow Ball|Ghost|80|100|15|Smart|3|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM31|Brick Break|Fighting|75|100|15|Cool|1|4}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM32|Double Team|Normal|&mdash;|&mdash;|15|Cool|2|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM34|Shock Wave|Electric|60|&mdash;|20|Cool|2|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM35|Flamethrower|Fire|95|100|15|Beauty|4|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM38|Fire Blast|Fire|120|85|5|Beauty|4|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM40|Aerial Ace|Flying|60|&mdash;|20|Cool|2|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM42|Facade|Normal|70|100|20|Cute|2|0||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM43|Secret Power|Normal|70|100|20|Smart|1|0||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM44|Rest|Psychic|&mdash;|&mdash;|10|Cute|2|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM45|Attract|Normal|&mdash;|100|15|Cute|2|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|TM46|Thief|Dark|40|100|10|Tough|1|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|HM04|Strength|Normal|80|100|15|Tough|2|1||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm3|HM06|Rock Smash|Fighting|20|100|15|Tough|1|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tmf|Zangoose|Normal|Normal|3|3}}<br />
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====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br />
{{learnlist/breedh|Zangoose|Normal|Normal|3|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed3|{{MSP|287|Slakoth}}{{MSP|288|Vigoroth}}{{MSP|289|Slaking}}|Counter|Fighting|&mdash;|100|20|Tough|2|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed3|{{MSP|324|Torkoal}}|Curse|???|&mdash;|&mdash;|10|Tough|3|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed3|{{MSP|032|Nidoran♂}}{{MSP|033|Nidorino}}{{MSP|034|Nidoking}}{{MSP|135|Jolteon}}{{MSP|256|Combusken}}{{MSP|257|Blaziken}}|Double Kick|Fighting|30|100|30|Cool|2|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed3|{{MSP|206|Dunsparce}}{{MSP|231|Phanpy}}{{MSP|232|Donphan}}{{MSP|263|Zigzagoon}}{{MSP|264|Linoone}}{{MSP|287|Slakoth}}<br>{{MSP|288|Vigoroth}}{{MSP|289|Slaking}}{{MSP|324|Torkoal}}{{MSP|327|Spinda}}|Flail|Normal|&mdash;|100|15|Cute|1|0||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed3|{{MSP|359|Absol}}{{MSP|274|Nuzleaf}}{{MSP|275|Shiftry}}|Razor Wind|Normal|80|100|10|Cool|3|0||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed3|{{MSP|037|Vulpix}}{{MSP|058|Growlithe}}{{MSP|059|Arcanine}}{{MSP|209|Snubbull}}{{MSP|210|Granbull}}{{MSP|228|Houndour}}<br>{{MSP|229|Houndoom}}{{MSP|261|Poochyena}}{{MSP|262|Mightyena}}{{MSP|293|Whismur}}{{MSP|294|Loudred}}{{MSP|295|Exploud}}<br>{{MSP|309|Electrike}}{{MSP|310|Manectric}}|Roar|Normal|&mdash;|100|20|Cool|3|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/breedf|Zangoose|Normal|Normal|3|3}}<br />
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====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====<br />
{{learnlist/tutorh|Zangoose|Normal|Normal|3|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Body Slam|Normal|85|100|15|Tough|1|4||'''|yes|yes|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Counter|Fighting|&mdash;|100|20|Tough|2|0|||yes|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Defense Curl|Normal|&mdash;|&mdash;|40|Cute|2|0|||no|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Double-Edge|Normal|120|100|15|Tough|6|0||'''|yes|yes|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|DynamicPunch|Fighting|100|50|5|Cool|2|1|||no|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Endure|Normal|&mdash;|&mdash;|10|Tough|2|0|||no|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Fire Punch|Fire|75|100|15|Beauty|4|0|||no|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Fury Cutter|Bug|10|95|20|Cool|3|0|||no|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Ice Punch|Ice|75|100|15|Beauty|4|0|||no|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Icy Wind|Ice|55|95|15|Beauty|1|3|||no|yes|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Mega Kick|Normal|120|75|5|Cool|4|0||'''|yes|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Mega Punch|Normal|80|85|20|Tough|4|0||'''|yes|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Mimic|Normal|&mdash;|&mdash;|10|Cute|1|0|||yes|yes|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Mud-Slap|Ground|20|100|10|Cute|2|1|||no|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Rock Slide|Rock|75|90|10|Tough|1|3|||yes|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Rollout|Rock|30|90|20|Tough|3|0|||no|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Seismic Toss|Fighting|&mdash;|100|20|Tough|2|1|||yes|yes|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Sleep Talk|Normal|&mdash;|&mdash;|10|Cute|3|0|||no|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Snore|Normal|40|100|15|Cute|4|0||'''|no|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Substitute|Normal|&mdash;|&mdash;|10|Smart|2|0|||yes|yes|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Swagger|Normal|&mdash;|90|15|Cute|2|0|||no|yes|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Swift|Normal|60|&mdash;|20|Cool|2|0||'''|no|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Swords Dance|Normal|&mdash;|&mdash;|30|Beauty|1|0|||yes|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|ThunderPunch|Electric|75|100|15|Cool|4|0|||no|yes|no}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor3|Thunder Wave|Electric|&mdash;|100|20|Cool|2|1|||yes|yes|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutorf|Zangoose|Normal|Normal|3|3}}<br />
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====Special moves====<br />
{{Shadow moves|335|28|Shadow Shed|Shadow Rush|--|--|Refresh|Normal|Brick Break|Fighting|Counter|Fighting|Crush Claw|Normal|xd|Normal|Normal}}<br />
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[[zh:猫鼬斩/第三世代招式表]]</div>ScottOshawotthttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Nuzleaf_(Super_Mystery_Dungeon)&diff=2903836Nuzleaf (Super Mystery Dungeon)2018-12-28T06:57:55Z<p>ScottOshawott: /* History */ Editted missed typo</p>
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<div>{{AnimePokémonInfobox<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|type2=Dark<br />
|nickname=Nuzleaf<br />
|jnickname=コノハナ<br />
|tmnickname=Konohana<br />
|image=[[File:274Nuzleaf PSMD.png|220px]]<br />
|caption=Artwork of {{p|Nuzleaf}} from [[Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon]].<br />
|ball=None<br />
|caught=no<br />
|gender={{tt|Male|Has no gender in-game, as Super Mystery Dungeon doesn't have gender as a mechanic}}<br />
|ability={{a|Chlorophyll}}<br />
|pokemonname=Nuzleaf<br />
|epnum=Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon<br />
|epname=Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon<br />
|prevonum=274<br />
|current=At [[Serene Village]]<br />
|media=game<br />
}}<br />
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{{spoilers}}<br />
'''Nuzleaf''' (Japanese: '''コノハナ''' ''Konohana'') is a [[non-player character]] from {{g|Super Mystery Dungeon}}. He takes care of the {{player|protagonist}} during their stay in [[Serene Village]]. However, it is later revealed he is being manipulated by [[Dark Matter]], and is one of the Pokémon behind the petrification of Pokémon across [[Pokémon world (Mystery Dungeon)|the world]]. <br />
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==History==<br />
The player first meets Nuzleaf while fleeing the three {{mdc|Beheeyem|smd}} that found them after waking up as a Pokémon. After being told by the protagonist that they are, in fact human, the Beheeyem find the two, forcing Nuzleaf to escape with the player. Nuzleaf helps the player through [[Open Pass]] and [[Lush Forest]] while teaching them about the basics of [[Mystery Dungeon]]s. After clearing the two dungeons, they arrive in Serene Village, where Nuzleaf agrees to let the player stay at his house. He also enrolls the player in the local school to help them blend in. Eventually, Nuzleaf leads the player and partner on an expedition to [[Revelation Mountain]], a sacred location guarded by the villagers, in hopes of obtaining insight into the player's amnesiac condition. However, they are forced to abandon the expedition due to the Pokémon patrolling the area.<br />
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Later, while pursuing {{OBP|Krookodile|Super Mystery Dungeon}}, the player and their partner return to Serene Village alongside and {{p|Archen}} of the [[Expedition Society]]. After finding the village as peaceful as always, they run into Nuzleaf, whose turn it was to guard Revelation Mountain. He had come to report that a Pokémon fitting Krookodile's description had broken through the mountain's security. Nuzleaf led the player's group to the summit, where they find a shimmering lake of Luminous Water, protected by a pyramid-shaped barrier. Discovering that the barrier could only be broken by the player, and that the Luminous Water could reverse the petrification, the player decides to break the barrier, only to be interrupted by Krookodile, who begins demanding the money Nuzleaf paid him for leading the player's group to the summit and writing the ominous warnings targeting [[Legendary Pokémon]], along with {{p|Raikou}} and {{p|Suicune}}. After the player is forced to break the banner, Nuzleaf's demeanor completely changes, revealing himself to be the one responsible for the petrification incidents. Summoning {{p|Yveltal}} to his side, Nuzleaf turns the player's team, Krookodile, Raikou and Suicune into stone.<br />
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While the player, their partner, an the others attempt to escape the [[Voidlands]], Nuzleaf and his group drained the lake of the Luminous Water, and petrify most of Serene Village and [[Lively Town]]'s inhabitants. Surviving the attack, [[Students (Super Mystery Dungeon)|Espurr]] surrenders herself to Nuzleaf, and pretends to join his side, while leaking information about his movements to {{p|Ampharos}} and {{p|Jirachi}}. In addition, one of the Beheeyem breaks free of Dark Matter's mind control. Aware of that fact, Nuzleaf feeds the Beheeyem false information about the [[Prehistoric Ruins]] and the [[Tree of Life]], knowing the traitor would lead the player and partner there. At the bottom of the ruins, Nuzleaf and the remaining Beheeyem corner the trio, scaring the turncoat back into the fold. Nuzleaf reveals that the player once clashed with Dark Matter as a human, which is why the Beheeyem fought them to begin with; the player's amnesia apparently happened as a result of the Beheeyem's Psychic attacks. Nuzleaf had masqueraded as an ally so he could gain the player's trust and eventually be led to the Luminous Water, and destroy it so Dark Matter's plans can continue uninterrupted. To further dispirit the player, he calls Espurr in and reveals that she has been for him. Before Nuzleaf can petrify the player a second time, Ampharos appears with Jirachi and {{p|Celebi}}, the latter teleporting everyone to Primeval Forest where the Tree of Life is.<br />
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The group makes their way to the center of the forest, discovering that the Tree of Life has already been possessed by Dark Matter and is almost completely dead. Nuzleaf, the Beheeyem, and Yveltal attack the group, all feral due to Dark Matter's increasing power. Nuzleaf turns the turncoat Beheyeem to stone before turning his petrification powers on Espurr, but the attack is blocked by the player and partner's Harmony Scarves and the Tree of Life itself. The player and partner evolve into their fully evolved forms, and take this chance to defeat Nuzleaf's group, wresting their minds from Dark Matter's control. However, Dark Matter steals Nuzleaf's group away and uproots the Tree of Life, causing it to rise into the sky and eventually crash into the Sun.<br />
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The player and their partner find Nuzleaf's group in the [[Tree of Life: Roots|Tree of Life's roots]], being bound and tortured by Dark Matter's power. In their evolved states, the duo easily breaks Dark Matter's bindings. While Nuzleaf and the Beheeyem start escaping, the player's partner urges Yveltal to take Nuzleaf and the others someplace safe. After the two heroes leave, Yveltal warps its group to a pocket dimension to avoid Dark Matter's ever expanding power. During the final showdown, Nuzleaf and the others warp into Dark Matter's dimension to encourage the player and their partner, who had begun to falter after losing their evolved forms and learning that Dark Matter had petrified every Pokémon in the world. While they are soon petrified as well, Nuzleaf, Yveltal, and the Beheeyem voices call out to them, and are soon joined by voices of Pokémon all over the world giving them encouragement. The words of encouragement break Dark Matter's shield and empower the player and partner to stop it once and for all.<br />
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After the final battle was won, the player, their partner, and Espurr return to Serene Village, where they discover that Nuzleaf went to the village to apologize to the villagers before going off to places unknown. Sometime later, Nuzleaf and the three Beheeyem learns of the player's partner's dissappearance, {{p|Mew}}, and {{p|Xatu}}'s vision. Eager to redeem themselves, Nuzleaf and the others "kidnap" Mew and take it to the [[Purifying Cave]]. When the player finds them, Nuzleaf explains that sacrificing Mew is the only way to eradicate Dark Matter for good. Suddenly, Mew begins to glow with light and seemingly fade away. Reminded of the partner's departure, the player refuses this, not wanting to say goodbye again. At this, the player's Harmony Scarf begins glowing, combining with the light surrounding Mew, which restores the partner. With everything resolved, Nuzleaf and Beheeyem are accepted in Serene Village as villagers.<br />
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The player automatically recruits Nuzleaf and Beheeyem after reaching the highest {{mdc|rank}}, Grand Master.<br />
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==Personality and Characteristics==<br />
While caring for the player, Nuzleaf is shown to be a laid-back guardian, encouraging the player to explore the world around them, a contrast to {{p|Carracosta}}'s protective, if not overbearing, treatment of the player's partner. He often leaves the house for several days at a time. Nuzleaf speaks with a slight southern accent <!--(Kansai in the original Japanese)-->.<br />
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After being freed from Dark Matter's control, Nuzleaf blames himself for the trouble he brought to the world, and genuinely seeks redemption. Because of this, he has difficulty talking to the player after the incident.<br />
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==Moves==<br />
{|<br />
! [[Open Pass]] and [[Lush Forest]]<br />
| style="text-align: center" | '''[[Revelation Mountain]]'''<br>Boosts: +50 {{stat|HP}}{{tt|*|Second visit only}}<br />
| style="text-align: center" | '''[[Road to Primeval Forest]]'''<br>Boosts: +200 {{stat|HP}}<br />
|-<br />
|{{Pokémon/6<br />
|game=XY<br />
|ndex=274<br />
|pokemon=Nuzleaf<br />
|ability=Chlorophyll<br />
|level=30<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Dark<br />
|move1=Feint Attack|move1type=Dark|move1cat=Physical<br />
|move2=Pound|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical<br />
|move3=Frustration|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Physical<br />
|move4=Low Sweep|move4type=Fighting|move4cat=Physical}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/6<br />
|game=XY<br />
|ndex=274<br />
|pokemon=Nuzleaf<br />
|ability=Chlorophyll<br />
|level=30<br />
|type1=Grass|type2=Dark<br />
|move1=Razor Leaf|move1type=Grass|move1cat=Physical<br />
|move2=Pound|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical<br />
|move3=Frustration|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Physical<br />
|move4=Low Sweep|move4type=Fighting|move4cat=Physical}}<br />
|{{Pokémon/6<br />
|game=XY<br />
|ndex=274<br />
|pokemon=Nuzleaf<br />
|ability=Chlorophyll<br />
|level={{tt|40|Boss character}}<br />
|type1=Grass<br />
|type2=Dark<br />
|move1=Feint Attack|move1type=Dark|move1cat=Physical<br />
|move2=Fake Out|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical<br />
|move3=Frustration|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Physical<br />
|move4=Razor Leaf|move4type=Grass|move4cat=Physical<br />
}}<br />
|}<br />
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==Related articles==<br />
{{Animespecies|Nuzleaf}}<br />
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