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Talk:Pokémon in Serbia

2015-08-25T12:00:28Z

SbTditdatdwt:

[[User:Pokessio|Pokessio]] ([[User talk:Pokessio|talk]]) 11:41, 1 August 2014 (UTC)Could anyone add Serbia to the references scheme and also create a language code, please?

This page is phrased really badly. And it has too many unneeded references to the Croatian dub. I think some information is mixed up with the Croatian dub as well. I don't think DP was ever dubbed in Serbian yet there's a date. Isn't that interesting. [[User:SbTditdatdwt|SbTditdatdwt]] ([[User talk:SbTditdatdwt|talk]]) 12:00, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Mega Evolution/Archive 1

2014-06-21T18:07:39Z

SbTditdatdwt: /* Mega Sableye's picture is weird? */

==Ampharos==
This article implies they retconned Ampharos to Dragon-type. As far as I know, he's not; it's the MegaAmpharos who has the Dragon-type... [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 14:55, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
:Oops, didn't notice it. Only if you had reported this 3 minutes ago... [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''The''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''Original''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''One''']] 14:57, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

== mega evolution ==
Please add that, A new area called the Master Tower is related to Mega Evolutions. --[[User:Viv|Viv]] ([[User talk:Viv|talk]]) 15:19, 9 August 2013 (UTC) add this

== Should the abilities be added? ==

In the chart on the page, should the abilities of the mega evolved formes be added? [[User:MrBananaMan212|MrBananaMan212]] ([[User talk:MrBananaMan212|talk]]) 17:35, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

:IMHO yes, at least for abilities confirmed different from the species's regular Ability. That would include:
:* {{a|Adaptability}} for Mega Lucario
:* {{a|Insomnia}} for Mega Mewtwo

:Whether or not to include Mega Blaziken/Mawile/Ampharos/Absol is still a matter of debate. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 04:49, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
::I'm uncomfortable with adding Abilities because we don't know if it will be their only Ability, or if their Hidden Ability will be different. I think the info needs to be there, we just need to be careful about it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:22, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

== Korean name for Mega Evolution ==

For the sake of completeness.... its Korean name is 메가진화 ''Mega {{tt|Jinhwa|Evolution}}''.
* No analysis needed. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 17:50, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

== Request for minor edits... ==

The aspect ratio on Lucario's image seems to be off (Firefox reports it as being scaled up to 150x227, correct size 150x138). Can someone fix that? I'm not sure what to look for in the markup, and of course, the page is currently locked. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 04:53, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
:I think it's like that because the picture got updated today. It should fix itself soon enough. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 04:59, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
:: ''*reloads image*'' I see. Much better. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 03:04, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Um.. I think all of the normal and mega Pokemon's images have been warped by the table. --[[User:Ziggyangelo88|Ziggyangelo88]] ([[User talk:Ziggyangelo88|talk]]) 19:10, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
:No, that's happening to all Pokemon articles on all pages. The staff are updating Pokemon images to make them square so they can be used for something (not yet identified) in the future. For now, they appear as though the old images were stretched into the new dimensions. In time, the new images will properly sync and replace them. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:19, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

== Mega Evolution Physiology ==

Should we add the appearance of the Mega Evolution forms to the Physiology section of the pages of the Pokemon that have them? [[User:Vienna Waltz|Vienna Waltz]] ([[User talk:Vienna Waltz|talk]]) 06:05, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
:I think that's a good idea. The Pokémon probably don't need completely separate articles since it's closer to fore changes than actual evolution. [[User:Reign|Reign]] ([[User talk:Reign|talk]]) 20:05, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
::We can do it like how we did the Kami trio's forme difference physiology. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 20:09, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

== Individual Articles ==

If there's a page for Mega Evolutions, why do the individual Pokemon articles aside from Mewtwo not mention their new forms? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 01:05, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
:We have to make an extreme amount of modifications to our existing tables and infoboxes in order to accommodate Mega Evolutions. Although we try to be as current and up to date as possible, we also want to only have to mess with the coding for high use templates as few of times as possible, as the wiki will have to force itself to update every single page using the templates, thus causing the site to slow down. We're waiting a little bit to work out all the final kinks to these before implementing them. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:51, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
::Fair enough, but couldn't even a mention and link to the article be made in the intro paragraph? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 05:03, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
::I will never understand this site's policies... [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 19:21, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
Totally agree. It sometimes seems on wikis (not just this one), that things that would be an easy fix, at least temporarily, until the permanent thing is decided upon are not done, leaving the wiki with outdated information, which will only turn away those who are looking for it, and they will go to other places instead. Furthermore, even though wikis are supposed to be "community encyclopedias", it often seems the mods have all the power in deciding how and when things are to be done, even if several regular users express the wish for things to be different. (Again not talking just about Bulbapedia). I just tell myself it will be fixed eventually, and if things still aren't right, the pages will eventually get unlocked, and I can fix it then. [[User:CoolDudeAl|CoolDudeAl]] ([[User talk:CoolDudeAl|talk]]) 14:45, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
:Maybe everything could be working with just a few workarounds, but there is a reason why we are not using them. Previously, there hasn't been a Pokémon who could evolve two times and then temporarily evolve a third time just for battle and revert back its final evolution afterwards. Because of that, the templates were never originally programmed to support more than what was already needed since there was no point in doing so at the time, in addition to potentially and unnecessarily slowing down the wiki if it was added to the template. This is why we are currently waiting on the updated templates. We don't want to treat the Mega Evolutions like they are just a form change, especially for those who do have a form change already present in the games. Not to mention that we want to have everything looking nice and in a way that doesn't cause interference with other parts of the wiki. Templates can be coded to do events that they normally would not have to do, such as adding an article to a category if a specific value is true or passes a certain limit. The Pokémon articles rely heavily on this so that the information can be easily added, confirmed, and automatically replaced if there is an issue or mistake. In addition, Archaic is the webmaster of the site and is in charge with keeping the site running efficiently. After him are the other Webmasters, Werdnae as the Editor-in-Chief, the Editorial Board, the Bureaucrats, and so on. Likely, the members of the staff had to make a decision when the Mega Evolution were revealed to keep all the articles as close as possible as to how they were until the PokémonInfobox template could be updated to support everything that we now know. That way, everything could be tested and corrected before the games were release and it would be checked to prevent interference with other parts of the wiki. So, I would assume that when October comes around, the new PokémonInfobox template should already be up and running, which is the goal since we want everything running before the games come out. Hopefully, this will be able to explain what is going on in the background and why things are proceeding as they are. :) --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 17:24, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

== More Megas ==

Today the Pokemon website officially released Mega Ampharos, Mega Mawile and Mega Absol. Now could we update their pictures to these instead of the blurry corocoro scans please. --[[User:Ziggyangelo88|Ziggyangelo88]] ([[User talk:Ziggyangelo88|talk]]) 05:31, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
:They are updated. It takes time for them to update on Bulbapedia. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 05:36, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

== DNA Rainbow ==

Shouldn't it be noted that the rainbow colored shape above a Pokemon's head while it mega evolves is the same symbol found on the Japanese logo for X and Y? --[[User:Ziggyangelo88|Ziggyangelo88]] ([[User talk:Ziggyangelo88|talk]]) 07:40, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
:: The DNA symbol you speak of is the Mega Stone. [[User:Zeta|Zeta]] ([[User talk:Zeta|talk]]) 07:42, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

== Height/weight ==

You may also note that MegaEvo can change {{tt|height and/or weight|Even though it either doesn't change anything, changes both, or changes only weight; no Mega with known weight and height has changed only height}} of the Pokémon. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 07:51, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

== Images ==

While I know Serebii is widely considered a fansite, he ''does'' have some new images of the Mega [http://serebii.net/xy/megaampharos.png Ampharos], [http://serebii.net/xy/megamawile.png Mawile], and [http://serebii.net/xy/megaabsol.png Absol] that are better than the scans. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 15:56, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
:The high quality artwork of the Mega Evolutions has already been uploaded to the archives, it only takes some time for Bulbapedia's system to recognize the image changes and display the latest version, thus why you still see the low quality scans. It usually takes a couple of days before the correct versions (the high quality artwork) is shown. ☼ Blazing[[User talk:Blazingfist|Fist ☼]] 16:01, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
::It appears that images will update when their size is changed, so I made a minor change to the image sizes.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 16:10, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
:::Aha, I see them now. Though, on the topic, I think [http://serebii.net/xy/megakangaskhan.jpg this] might be a better image for Mega Kangaskhan. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 17:26, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
::::That's hosted by Serebii; we're not allowed to use his stuff. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:43, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
:::::Ah, well nevermind then. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 18:45, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

== Original Ability ==

Could you put the primary abilities that the Pokemon has before the mega evolution to show how it changes. --[[User:Ziggyangelo88|Ziggyangelo88]] ([[User talk:Ziggyangelo88|talk]]) 09:26, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
:We don't know how having a Hidden Ability affects the change, so they will not be put up right now. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:28, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

== mega evolution seem similar to something else? ==
Hey not sure if this was the right place to mention this or not, but as a long time fan of Pokemon AND digimon, I cant help but draw similarities between mega evolution, and digivolution from the digimon anime. I only mention this as a matter of curiosity. In the digimon anime, a digimon would digivolve to a higher form during battle, before reverting to they're original form after the battle had ended. I just thought the similarity was worth noting.[[User:Silverfin007|Silverfin007]] ([[User talk:Silverfin007|talk]]) 14:55, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
:It's most likely just a coincidence. They're similar concepts, you know? So unless it's officially stated by Game Freak, that theory should be ignored here, with a possible discussion just on [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net the forums] [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''オリ''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''ジ''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''ナル''']] TheOriginalOne 15:02, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

And if it was intentional, Toei Animation would probably sue Nintendo for plagiarism. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 15:25, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

:It's also similar to characters from Dragonball Z going Super-Saiyan. There's all sorts of things that it could be compared to. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] ([[User talk:Legionaireb|talk]]) 05:32, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

== Mega Evolving ==

As we now know that Mega Evolution occurs when a Pokémon able to Mega Evolve holds a Mega Stone and a specific button is pressed on-screen during battle, as proved yesterday on the Pokémon Game Show demo version of Pokémon X and y, in a photo that was taken, where the in-battle button was showcased. Should the text that states - "In order to undergo a Mega Evolution, the Pokémon must be holding the applicable Mega Stone, and meet a currently unspecified other condition." not be changed to "In order to undergo a Mega Evolution, the Pokémon must be holding the applicable Mega Stone, and the player must select the Mega Evolution button whilst in battle."--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 20:57, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
:No. That was a demo. There is nothing saying that it happens like that in the full game. For all we know, the condition is that it has to be unlocked. I don't think that pressing a button counts as a "condition." [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 21:19, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
::I agree, there could be more requirements and restrictions that need to be uncovered first. With something like that it wouldn't surprise me. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 00:13, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
:::OK, thank you. {{unsigned|ShinyPatch}}

== Demo Mewtwo ==

Has anyone actually gone to the "Pokémon" menu after obtaining the Mewtwo in the demo to see what its Mega Stone is? If they would check its stats to see any increases afterwards, that'd be nice too. I can't seem to find anyone who has, but it seems like it'd be pretty simple to do. For the purposes of getting as much info as possible, perhaps someone with access to a demo who sees this message will give it a try? --[[User:GoldenSandslash15|GoldenSandslash15]] ([[User talk:GoldenSandslash15|talk]]) 22:19, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
:The demos were only playable during Pokemon Game Show, an event that ended several days ago. I suppose it's worth looking at when the English demo is available at PAX Prime (Aug. 30 to Sept. 2). Basically, I'm trying to tell you, don't hold your breath: if anyone even can do so, it'll take more than a week before they get the opportunity. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 22:24, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
You'd think someone would have thought to look this info up when playing the demos. Then again, the demos are bare bone so you likely don't have the option to look at a Pokémon's states. Although, someone could have at least figured out Sylveon's type match up to some extent. Is anyone on the Bulbapedia staff attending the american event? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 23:59, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
:: In [http://youtu.be/5g4c7n6WUO8 this video] of the demo, found on Serebii.Net, the player is given access to the "Pokémon" menu, but the player never does so after obtaining the Mewtwo. --[[User:GoldenSandslash15|GoldenSandslash15]] ([[User talk:GoldenSandslash15|talk]]) 07:47, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
:::Okay, I don't exactly have a GOOD source, but according to one user on GameFAQs (again, this isn't at all reliable), the "Summary" option is missing from the Pokémon that you select in your party. So it isn't viewable, if this guy is telling the truth. --[[User:GoldenSandslash15|GoldenSandslash15]] ([[User talk:GoldenSandslash15|talk]]) 21:40, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
::::We'll keep a look out for that and see about adding it once a better source comes along. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 21:48, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

== Same thing with Mega Garchomp ==

As I stated for Mega Mewtwo X, I also meant the same for Mega Garchomp

[[User:The Seeker|The Seeker]] ([[User talk:The Seeker|talk]]) 20:58, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
:What are you talking about? What did you state? This is the first time you've posted on this talk page. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:37, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

== Pictures for Mega Mewtwo X and Mega Garchomp need replacements ==

I don't think my previous comment made it through since someone deleted it. I'm inquiring as the title says. The official Pokemon X & Y website has better resolution pictures of Mega Mewtwo X and Mega Garchomp that could be .PNG files. I believe the staff member working on this page can take those pictures and put them in this page for Mega Mewtwo X and Mega Garchomp [[User:The Seeker|The Seeker]] ([[User talk:The Seeker|talk]]) 17:57, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
:They've already been updated in the archives. Bulbapedia takes time to update when that happens. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 17:58, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
::Also, as you can see from the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mega_Evolution&action=history page history], you never made a previous comment in the first place. We've been having server errors lately, so it's likely that's why you think you made a comment but it does not exist. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:12, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

== Individual articles for each Mega evolution ==

Should we create individual articles for each Mega Evolution? Since they aren't simple "form changes" like Giratina, Shaymin and Keldeo etc, but a type of evolution, should we treat them as evolutions or should we just put every information on their respective un-Mega Evolved articles? I personally think they could be viable for their own articles if one were to use an altered version of the regular Pokemon pages (like maybe removing sections like Learnsets etc). [[User:Angela-Samshi|Angela-Samshi]] ([[User talk:Angela-Samshi|talk]]) 19:39, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
:I don't think they need their own articles. They really are pretty similar to form changes since they're afaik once a battle and only last in battle. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 19:47, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
::Mega Evolutions are just powered up versions of already existing Pokemon. They are not their own separate species and don't need their own articles. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 20:31, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
:::I think they should at least have illustrated sub-sections in the Pokémon's articles, since some Mega Evolutions have abilities different from even their Hidden Ability (like Mega Venusaur having Thick Fat), as well as different stats and specs. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 22:05, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
::::We are dealing with that. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 22:13, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

== Link template? ==

Could a link template similar to {{template|Shiny}} or {{template|Shadow}} be created for Mega Pokémon? If possible, I would make make the template look like

<nowiki>[[Mega Evolution|Mega]]{{#if:{{{1|}}}| {{p|{{{1|}}}}}}}</nowiki>

The "1" parameter optional so it could be used on Anime episode articles. What do you guys think? - [[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]] 13:01, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

== Might be helpful... ==

It was confirmed that there would be no Kalos mega evolutions, meaning not all starters will get to mega envolve. I'm new dont yell.
[[User:HoennRemake|HoennRemake]] ([[User talk:HoennRemake|talk]]) 14:57, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
:* Do you have a link to a source confirming that? Also, people won't yell at you here very often, at the most we will just be really blunt. Comes with the territory of weeding out fan-speculation from the actual facts, as that's what this site tries to focus on. And some people do believe that something that is obvious to them, but not officially confirmed to be true, can pass as a fact; when there is always a chance they can be wrong, but I digress. ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 21:06, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
::It's from a interview with Masuda. I'll have to try to find a link. Not sure if it needs to be noted however. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 21:07, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
:::Thank you! X-D Was wondering where that was mentioned, this is what happens when I try to rely on the news page here for my source of updates. LOL ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 21:11, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
thanks funktastic for backing me up! [[User:HoennRemake|HoennRemake]] ([[User talk:HoennRemake|talk]]) 21:13, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
::Torpoleon posted [http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=212598 this] on [[Pokémon Professor]]. It's what you're looking for. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 21:26, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
::*Good, thanks. That's all I needed. It now is just a matter of the admins getting the time to add this, but I think they will do that once they get a few more things figured out, including any template updates, 'cause I hear they are trying to sort that out with the way things are changing with the games. (Makes sense, sprites will be replaced with 3D models...maybe, at least for [[Generation VI]] and [[Mega Evolutions]] might have to be implemented somehow, IDK. That's what I think they are gonna have to sort out along with other stuff.) ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 21:48, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

== "Pokémon that Mega Evolve" Category? ==

*This might be a bit premature, but seeing that not all Pokémon Mega Evolve, should there be a category for all the ones that do? Just a suggestion as well. ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 17:40, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
:Well, I personally think there should be a category like that, it'd be very useful. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 01:54, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

== I don't know how to upload pics here... ==
So plz someone who knows, add [http://i.imgur.com/1huQrYY.jpg this] to the article [[User:Sandubadear|Sandubadear]] ([[User talk:Sandubadear|talk]]) 01:53, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

== Misleading information ==

In the paragraph saying that in online battles and the Battle Maison the opponent's Pokemon gets to move first it a false statement. I always lead with my Mega Blastoise there and more often than not out speeds its opponents unless the opposing Pokemon is faster. Also I have watch some wifi battles posted on Youtube and have seen Mega Evolutions move before the opponent.

I think this may need to be changed. --[[User:Zdude0127|Zdude0127]] ([[User talk:Zdude0127|talk]]) 05:05, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

== 100 BST increase? ==

Alakazam's page claims that Alakazam has a BST of 500, but Mega Alakazam has only 590. Assuming that page is correct, this one isn't. Ampharos also goes from 500 to 610. Those are the only exceptions, so it's entirely possible that there was an error calculating them, but I dunno. --[[User:WyndFox|Wynd]] [[User talk:WyndFox|Fox]] 05:41, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

== Pictures ==

A lot of the Mega Evolutions on this page don't have a picture/sprite for them. Can someone please put them in? [[User:Functioning Blaziken|Functioning Blaziken]] ([[User talk:Functioning Blaziken|talk]]) 15:21, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
:For what it's worth, those are missing because official art for them hasn't yet been released, so we don't have any. I don't know why we aren't using screenshots, but that's why there's no artwork for them, at least. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:13, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

== Mega Shinys ==

Has anyone tried mega-evolving a Shiny Pokemon yet? I'm very interested in knowing what happens with that. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] ([[User talk:Legionaireb|talk]]) 05:33, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
:Yep, Mega Evolutions have their own shiny palettes. Shiny Mega Charizard X, for example, is aqua with red wings. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:37, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
::Garchomp is pink/purple, Gengar is white, Banette's the same as regular shiny Banette. Those are the ones that come to mind. I don't think I've seen the others. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 05:47, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Would it be worth putting these into the table to show the shiny forms as well as the normal forms?--[[User:Ditto51|Ditto51/Tom]] ([[User_Talk:Ditto51|My Talk Page]]) 19:03, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
:Not at all. Beyond perhaps mentioning that shinies Mega Evolve shiny, shininess is entirely irrelevant to Mega Evolution. If someone really wants to know what a Mega Pokemon looks like shiny, they can look at the Pokemon's page (...once we get Gen VI sprites/whatever, that is). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:14, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

== Ability of Pokémon before Mega Evolution ==

We should really have a column in the "Before Mega Evolution" section with the Pokémon's standard in-game abilities listed at the least. [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] ([[User talk:Dialgafan1|talk]]) 18:17, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

== Template suggestion ==

I know we've been avoiding treating Mega Evolution like "evolution" per se, since it's only in-battle, but even form changes — including only-in-battle ones like {{p|Castform}}'s — have their forms listed in the "evolution" template above their sprite galleries. Would it not be prudent to include Mega Evolutions in these templates, with ↔ instead of → and with "Mega Evolution" instead of "first evolution" or "second evolution"? And once we get all the Mega Stone images, we could use those for the icons. Is this a good idea? If not, shouldn't we remove forms like Castform's from the evolution template? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 22:11, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==

Is it worth noting that Charizard and Mewtwo are the only Pokémon to receive more than one Mega Form? ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 19:45, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
:No. Since there are more than one of them, there isn't an "only". [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 20:05, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
::I meant as in the only Pokémon to currently have two or more Mega Forms available to them. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 15:50, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
:: And he meant that since there are more than one that using the word "only" is incorrect. With how few Pokémon can Mega Evolve, there being more than one that can do something makes it not notable. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 16:04, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

== Something unique about Mega Blaziken ==

Is it trivia worthy to note that Blaziken is the only Pokémon that gained a Mega Evolution and is not found in any of the Kalos Pokédexes? --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 23:42, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
:Given that there's apparently Mega Latias/Latios just waiting to be revealed, I would say no. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 23:46, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
::On the other hand, the article notes Mewtwo is the only Legendary who can Mega Evolve. I guess since the Lati@s Megas haven't been revealed yet? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 00:01, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

== This Article is Incomplete??? Also Rest and Sleep Talk work normally ==

Ok, Maybe its real early here and I can't get my English reading skills up to par, but what the heck is being asked in that Diglet banner?

Also, in case my reading of it was correct, I just taught my Lucario rest and Sleep Talk, and they both work normally. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 15:05, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
:The banner appears to say that we don't know if Sleeping or Frozen Pokémon can Mega-Evolve, and if they can't, if Sleep Talk or Snore would allow a sleeping Pokémon to do so. --[[User:WyndFox|Wynd]] [[User talk:WyndFox|Fox]] 18:56, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
::I know for a fact Paralysis and Sleep has no effect on preventing Mega Evolution. I'm not sure about frozen Pokémon, but the article already states that status ailments have no effect on mega evolution. Also you can choose to Mega Evolve and select the move Sleep talk and it will work as normal. So I think the banner should be taken down. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 23:50, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==

Is it worth noting that even though mega evolution was introduced in X/Y, none of the new pokemon introduced in those games can mega-evolve?
[[User:Pmawhorter|Pmawhorter]] ([[User talk:Pmawhorter|talk]]) 17:21, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
: Didn't someone say in an interview that this was deliberate, so they didn't end up designing fully evolved Pokemon that felt incomplete? That might be worth mentioning. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 15:39, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

== Mega Pokémon Sprites ==

I was just on the list of Pokémon by base stats page and noticed that Mega Evolved Pokémon are using their normal form's sprite instead of the Mega Evolution's sprite. Have the Mega Evolution sprites been uploaded yet? Shouldn't the articles use these sprites instead of the normal one, after all there is a sprite for each of Deoxys' forms. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:04, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

== Mega Latias & Mega Latios ==

I was just wondering, has Mega Latias and Mega Latios been confirmed? I don't think they have, unless I missed something (which is possible). I know Diance has been confirmed, but like one person asked on Diance's page if the other 2 rumored legends are basically confirmed cause Diance was, should a page be created for them and they said no not until confirmation, would't the same apply to Mega Latias and Mega Latios. Again, unless I missed something, shouldn't they not be on here? {{unsigned|Demers-Vachon}}

admin decision. action replay cheats. plenty of trustworthy people have the lati@site hence why they're under "unreleased". hoopa and volcanion remain unconfirmed until a similar situation happens. --[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 07:59, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Ah ok, I was just wondering, thanks for answering back! :-) {{unsigned|Demers-Vachon}}

I also know that Mega Latias has been released but you have to have the Action Replay Powersaves Cheat Device for 3DS Games or the Action Replay PowerSaves Pro - Nintendo 3DS, and as for Mega Latios, it was removed from the device, along with Diancie, Hoopa, AZ's Floette, and Volcanion, rumors say they are not supposed to be back on the device until July. Mega Latias- Extracted from- theangryaron.deviantart.com {{unsigned|Bubbaroocook}}

== Mega evolution table ==

Could we change the 'X color' in the Mega Evolution table to 'X color light?' I think it'd be a little easier on the eyes. '''[[User:FireGambit|FireGambit]]''' ([[User talk:FireGambit|talk]]) 15:41, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

== Original Abilities (again) ==

I know this has been brought up several times already, but is there some reason at this point the original abilities aren't in the table? The original concern seems to have been uncertainty as to how HAs interacted but it seems pretty sorted that they don't, so... [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] ([[User talk:Ikarishipper900|talk]]) 03:24, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
:Pokémon have several possible Abilities (usually 3), whereas Mega Evolutions have only one. That's why they weren't originally added, but I don't think it means that they cannot be. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 01:41, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

== Strong Bond ==

This page says, "Mega Evolution cannot be achieved if there is not a strong bond between Trainer and Pokémon", so how strong does the bond have to be to Mega Evolve and should we put it on this page? Has anyone found out this yet? ----[[User:Ethan7|Ethan]] ''([[User talk:Ethan7|Discussion]])'' 01:28, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
:It's just a flavor thing in the game's script. It's not related to any game mechanics. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 01:37, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
::Oh, it isn't? So it just says so in the script and there isn't a set [[friendship]] value? It would have been kind of cool if it was that way in my opinion. ----[[User:Ethan7|Ethan]] ''([[User talk:Ethan7|Discussion]])'' 14:56, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

== Fleshing out ==

I was considering fleshing out the body of this page by making it similar to the listing on [[Form differences]]. Each section would started with brief instructions on how to obtain their respective Mega Stone, including whether the Mega Stone upgrade is required or not. It would then compare the base form and the mega form(s) as seen here:

{| style="margin:auto;"
|
{{Compare|name=Blastoise|type=Water|image=009Blastoise|ab=Torrent|abd=Rain Dish|HP=79|Attack=83|Defense=100|SpAtk=85|SpDef=105|Speed=78}}
|
{{Compare|name=Blastoise|forme=Mega Blastoise|type=Water|image=009Blastoise-Mega|ab=Mega Launcher|how={{color2|000|Mega Stone#Blastoisinite|Blastoisinite}}|HP=79|Attack=103|Defense=120|SpAtk=135|SpDef=115|Speed=78}}
|}

Obviously, this would have a large impact on how the page looks, so I wanted to see if I could get anymore opinions and suggestions. - [[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]] 16:11, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

:Sounds like a good idea to me. It's the main page on the concept, after all, so having stats and comparisons here seems like a rational choice. Only thing I don't completely agree with is the Stone locations since that's all on the [[Mega Stone]] article, and the locations of the stones don't matter to the evolutions themselves. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 16:52, 3/19/2014 (UTC)
::I feel like the sections should have more subsistence than just the "compare" panels, though... I can't think of any alternatives. - [[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]] 20:55, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

== MegaEvo evolution template ==

[http://i.imgur.com/SmFWzZx.png LINK] What are you thinking? Is it possible to make something like this template? I already have firebugged a page, but maybe it is a good idea... [[User:Asmod96|Asmod96]] ([[User talk:Asmod96|talk]]) 15:58, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

Should it be worth mentioning that both of the Pokémon that have multiple Mega Evolutions so far are the first Pokémon to ever show up in the anime?

Charizard was the first Pokémon seen in the first Japanese opening of the anime, while Mewtwo (and Mew) were the first seen in all other countries. Now of course, there will be more Pokémon with multiple Mega Evolutions added in the future (we can assume as much) so that might not be important later on, but I think it's something worth noting for now. {{unsigned|BlackButterfree}}
:Possibly, but I don't think it's notable enough to be added onto the page. --[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(Talk)''']] 08:36, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

== Mega Groudon and Mega Kyogre? ==

So Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire and have been announced, and looking at the box covers, it would appear Groudon and Kyogre have been given Mega Evolutions much like the Eon Duo.

Should this be added to the article (I'm guessing not) and if not, should we protect this article to prevent the addition? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:34, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

:The page probably should be protected but there isn't any evidence to suggest that Groudon or Kyogre have Mega Evolutions at this moment in time.--[[User:S2daam|--samm :D]] 21:38, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

[[File:383Groudon.png|thumb|left|240px|original form]][[File:Omega_Ruby_EN_boxart.png|thumb|right|240px|box art]]

[[File:382Kyogre.png|thumb|left|240px|original form]][[File:Alpha_Sapphire_EN_boxart.png|thumb|right|240px|box art]]

::Actually there is visual evidence. The Box art for the games clearly show that Groudon and Kyogre underwent a transformation, and given this gen's mechanics, common sense says its a Mega Evolution.

Groudon's Teeth and Spikes become black, and his tail becomes longer (as evident with the tail spikes being spaced further apart) with the tip fanning out more.

Kyogre's tail becomes morphed with new groves and it has larger as well as new markings as well. Some of its red markings also have become blue.

But regardless the page should be protected, as should all pages relating to RS, these two and the mega evolution mechanics.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 22:11, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

:::"Common sense" and "visual evidence" are not confirmation. They're speculation. Apart from the new markings on Kyogre's forehead, I'd be willing to attribute everything you just listed to artistic license to make the boxart look cooler, not necessarily any actual redesign/form change/Mega Evolution/other in-game mechanic. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 22:36, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
::::I agree, too much early speculation at best, I seriously doubt any of this is true unless if more concrete evidence was officially released by Nintendo themselves. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 22:42, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

:::::Well regardless, at least the page has been protected until further info can be found.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 23:34, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

:::::: They coluld be mega evolutions, but we should wait before we know more about the games as not much is known about them now. --<sc>✓[[User:PikaTepig999|Pika]][[User talk:PikaTepig999|Tepig]][[Special:Contributions/Pikatepig999|999]]✓</sc> 09:13, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

::::::: This could just be a visual indicator that they're under the influence of their respective orbs (which could admittedly be retconned into Mega Stones). [[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:05, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

:::::::: The new CoroCoro info confirms that these are actually Prehistoric/Primal/Primeval form of Groudon & Kyogre which are achieved through a process called "Ancient Devolution". It also confirms Mega's for Sceptile Swampert & Diancie.--[[User:LatS|LatS]] ([[User talk:LatS|talk]]) 18:07, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
:::::::::I suppose it's possible Serebii got "Ancient Devolution" from a source, but I don't see anything on the magazine scans that would translate as "devolution". (I could also be missing it, or it could just be outside of the scans.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:52, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

== New Mega Evolutions from ORAS ==

I already did it so you can just copy and paste the code. {{unsigned|Asmod96}}

{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; border: 3px solid #{{y color}}; background: #{{x color}}"
! rowspan=2 style="background: #{{x color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon
! colspan=2 style="background: #{{x color light}}" | Before Mega Evolution
! colspan=3 style="background: #{{x color light}}" | After Mega Evolution
! rowspan=2 style="background: #{{x color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Mega Stone
|- style="background: #{{x color light}}"
! Image
! Type
! Image
! Type
! Ability
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Venusaur}}
|[[File:003Venusaur.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Grass}}{{typecolor|Poison}}
|[[File:003Venusaur-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Grass}}{{typecolor|Poison}}
|{{a|Thick Fat}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Venusaurite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
| rowspan="2" | {{p|Charizard}}
| rowspan="2" | [[File:006Charizard.png|150px]]
| rowspan="2" | {{typecolor|Fire}}{{typecolor|Flying}}
|[[File:006Charizard-Mega X.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Fire}}{{typecolor|Dragon}}
|{{a|Tough Claws}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Charizardite X}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|[[File:006Charizard-Mega Y.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Fire}}{{typecolor|Flying}}
|{{a|Drought}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Charizardite Y}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Blastoise}}
|[[File:009Blastoise.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Water}}
|[[File:009Blastoise-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Water}}
|{{a|Mega Launcher}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Blastoisinite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Alakazam}}
|[[File:065Alakazam.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Psychic}}
|[[File:065Alakazam-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Psychic}}
|{{a|Trace}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Alakazite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Gengar}}
|[[File:094Gengar.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Ghost}}{{typecolor|Poison}}
|[[File:094Gengar-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Ghost}}{{typecolor|Poison}}
|{{a|Shadow Tag}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Gengarite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Kangaskhan}}
|[[File:115Kangaskhan.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Normal}}
|[[File:115Kangaskhan-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Normal}}
|{{a|Parental Bond}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Kangaskhanite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Pinsir}}
|[[File:127Pinsir.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Bug}}
|[[File:127Pinsir-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Bug}}{{typecolor|Flying}}
|{{a|Aerilate}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Pinsirite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Gyarados}}
|[[File:130Gyarados.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Water}}{{typecolor|Flying}}
|[[File:130Gyarados-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Water}}{{typecolor|Dark}}
|{{a|Mold Breaker}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Gyaradosite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Aerodactyl}}
|[[File:142Aerodactyl.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Rock}}{{typecolor|Flying}}
|[[File:142Aerodactyl-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Rock}}{{typecolor|Flying}}
|{{a|Tough Claws}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Aerodactylite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
| rowspan="2" | {{p|Mewtwo}}
| rowspan="2" | [[File:150Mewtwo.png|150px]]
| rowspan="2" | {{typecolor|Psychic}}
|[[File:150Mewtwo-Mega X.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Psychic}}{{typecolor|Fighting}}
|{{a|Steadfast}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Mewtwonite X}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|[[File:150Mewtwo-Mega Y.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Psychic}}
|{{a|Insomnia}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Mewtwonite Y}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Ampharos}}
|[[File:181Ampharos.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Electric}}
|[[File:181Ampharos-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Electric}}{{typecolor|Dragon}}
|{{a|Mold Breaker}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Ampharosite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Scizor}}
|[[File:212Scizor.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Bug}}{{typecolor|Steel}}
|[[File:212Scizor-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Bug}}{{typecolor|Steel}}
|{{a|Technician}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Scizorite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Heracross}}
|[[File:214Heracross.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Bug}}{{typecolor|Fighting}}
|[[File:214Heracross-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Bug}}{{typecolor|Fighting}}
|{{a|Skill Link}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Heracronite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Houndoom}}
|[[File:229Houndoom.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Dark}}{{typecolor|Fire}}
|[[File:229Houndoom-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Dark}}{{typecolor|Fire}}
|{{a|Solar Power}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Houndoominite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Tyranitar}}
|[[File:248Tyranitar.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Rock}}{{typecolor|Dark}}
|[[File:248Tyranitar-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Rock}}{{typecolor|Dark}}
|{{a|Sand Stream}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Tyranitarite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Sceptile}}
|[[File:254Sceptile.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Grass}}
|[[File:254Sceptile-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Grass}}{{typecolor|Dragon}}
|{{a|Lightning Rod}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|???}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Blaziken}}
|[[File:257Blaziken.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Fire}}{{typecolor|Fighting}}
|[[File:257Blaziken-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Fire}}{{typecolor|Fighting}}
|{{a|Speed Boost}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Blazikenite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Swampert}}
|[[File:260Swampert.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Water}}{{typecolor|Ground}}
|[[File:260Swampert-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Water}}{{typecolor|Ground}}
|{{a|Swift Swim}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|???}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Gardevoir}}
|[[File:282Gardevoir.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Psychic}}{{typecolor|Fairy}}
|[[File:282Gardevoir-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Psychic}}{{typecolor|Fairy}}
|{{a|Pixilate}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Gardevoirite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Mawile}}
|[[File:303Mawile.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Steel}}{{typecolor|Fairy}}
|[[File:303Mawile-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Steel}}{{typecolor|Fairy}}
|{{a|Huge Power}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Mawilite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Aggron}}
|[[File:306Aggron.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Steel}}{{typecolor|Rock}}
|[[File:306Aggron-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Steel}}
|{{a|Filter}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Aggronite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Medicham}}
|[[File:308Medicham.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Fighting}}{{typecolor|Psychic}}
|[[File:308Medicham-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Fighting}}{{typecolor|Psychic}}
|{{a|Pure Power}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Medichamite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Manectric}}
|[[File:310Manectric.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Electric}}
|[[File:310Manectric-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Electric}}
|{{a|Intimidate}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Manectite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Banette}}
|[[File:354Banette.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Ghost}}
|[[File:354Banette-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Ghost}}
|{{a|Prankster}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Banettite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Absol}}
|[[File:359Absol.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Dark}}
|[[File:359Absol-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Dark}}
|{{a|Magic Bounce}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Absolite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Garchomp}}
|[[File:445Garchomp.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Dragon}}{{typecolor|Ground}}
|[[File:445Garchomp-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Dragon}}{{typecolor|Ground}}
|{{a|Sand Force}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Garchompite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Lucario}}
|[[File:448Lucario.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Fighting}}{{typecolor|Steel}}
|[[File:448Lucario-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Fighting}}{{typecolor|Steel}}
|{{a|Adaptability}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Lucarionite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Abomasnow}}
|[[File:460Abomasnow.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Grass}}{{typecolor|Ice}}
|[[File:460Abomasnow-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Grass}}{{typecolor|Ice}}
|{{a|Snow Warning}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Abomasite}}
|-
|style="background:#FFFFFF; {{roundybl|5px}}"|{{p|Diancie}}
|style="background:#FFFFFF"|[[File:719Diancie.png|150px]]
|style="background:#FFFFFF"|{{typecolor|Rock}}{{typecolor|Fairy}}
|style="background:#FFFFFF"|[[File:719Diancie-Mega.png|150px]]
|style="background:#FFFFFF"|{{typecolor|Rock}}{{typecolor|Fairy}}
|style="background:#FFFFFF"|{{a|???}}
|style="background:#FFFFFF; {{roundybr|5px}}"|{{DL|Mega Stone|???}}
|}
:There's a note at the bottom saying that no Generation V or VI Pokemon have Mega Evolutions. Please change it to just V, due to Diancie being Generation VI. [[User:Digifiend|Digifiend]] ([[User talk:Digifiend|talk]]) 10:12, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
::We're not certain if the leaks are true. Once there's confirmation, we may add it in. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 14:05, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
:::Excuse me if the question shouldn't go here, but what does define when something is confirmed? Because previous times where there were scan leaks like these they're pretty much assumed to be real. The same happened with Volcanion and Hoppa (which were discovered the same way the Azure Flute was)... --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] ([[User talk:Gabo 2oo|talk]]) 00:11, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
::::It's because the leaks were leaked earlier than usual. Normally, CoroCoro would leak on the 10th of every month, but here it was leaked a day or two early. --[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:21, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
:::::I guess we can at least put in Mega Sceptile and Mega Swampert now that they have been officially confirmed. [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] ([[User talk:Dialgafan1|talk]]) 00:34, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
::::::I don't know if I want to enter those until we find a way to differentiate between XY megas and ORAS megas. Otherwise, the info could be confusing or misleading. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 00:39, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
:::::::Since they're technically unreleased, I put the three new ones in the unreleased section. We're probably going to have to do something to show the availability in each game at some point in the future. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 02:44, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

== Neat..er? Mega Swampert ==
since i cant upload images (..evenificouldthispageisprotectedlel) i made this mega swampert cutout thingie for a forum post so.. if anyone's interested
here: http://www.dodaj.rs/f/W/FD/2EEW0bi3/mega-swampert.png
[[User:SbTditdatdwt|SbTditdatdwt]] ([[User talk:SbTditdatdwt|talk]]) 08:32, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

== Mega Sableye Revealed! ==
Just now '''''Mega Sableye''''' was revealed.

http://oi57.tinypic.com/oqfu36.jpg

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhBSCthYTLE

Edit: Based on Pokebeach's report (and also confirmed by Serebii), it keeps it original typing of "Dark/Ghost".{{unsigned|LatS}}
:Other fansites are not an acceptable source. When it becomes officially revealed, we'll add it. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 21:23, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
::Pokebeach and Serebii don't even say anything like that...--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 21:37, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

:Just something I noticed, Sableye's left (our right) hand isn't attached to its gem. Is it levitating it or something? --[[User:JoeIsCool|JoeIsCool]] ([[User talk:JoeIsCool|talk]]) 00:41, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

== Anime and manga sections ==

Could somebody please update the anime and manga sections? They haven't been updated for quite a while, and I think they should be brought up to date. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 21:11, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
{{-}}
PS. That Mega Sableye really came out of nowhere for me! :o

== Diancite ==

The italian trailer revealed that Diancie Mega Evolves using the '''Diancite'''. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3edqLRBCC_M Source] --[[User:S2daam|--samm :D]] 22:53, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
:Some Mega Stones have different names between Italian and English versions, so Diancite may not be the English name.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 23:02, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

== Broken Mega Sceptile and Mega Swampert images ==

the images for Mega Sceptile and Mega Swampert do not show up on their respective articles despite the mega evolution article having the art work.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 02:35, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

== OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire featuring Mega Evolutions ... ==

So with ORAS talking about Mega Evolutions, should that mean that Mega Evolutions aren't exclusive to the Kalos Region, but exclusive to the Hoenn Region and quite possibly other regions too. Just a thought. [[User:Bluekirbystar|Bluekirbystar]] ([[User talk:Bluekirbystar|talk]]) 05:46, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
:We'll see. For all we know at this point, all the Mega Stones available in ORAS could be imported from Kalos. It's somewhat likely that it'll be retconned just like earlier features (for instance, double battles being exclusive to Hoenn), but it's too early to assume so. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 13:43, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
::The UK trailer indicates that the Mega Stone for Mega Diancie is obtained within the games. Also, its already been more or less made known that the Mega Stones for the Eon Duo cannot be traded, so there is limits to that theory. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:07, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

== "Mega Ring" page moved... ==

Would a staff member like to change the links to the "Mega Ring" page to point to Key Stone instead now? There's one in the Mega Evolving section and one in the In the Pokémon Adventures manga section. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:16, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
:Done. Thanks for letting us know. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 14:26, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

== New Table ==

I've worked on a new table for the Pokémon capable of Mega Evolution. I think the one on the page at the minute is quite large and seeming it's likely we're going to be getting more as time progresses, I thought of having one a little more 'compact'. There is a template that means less coding on the actual Mega Evolution page and the actual full code version. Don't know if you want to use them, tweak them, delete them, etc. but they're there to be used if needed ([[User:s2daam/Template:Megalistheader]]/[[User:s2daam/Template:Megalistbody]] with the coding for this page [[User:s2daam/Sandbox#Attempt #2|here]]) or the full coding [[User:s2daam/Sandbox#Pokémon capable of Mega Evolution|here]]. --[[User:S2daam|--samm :D]] 08:31, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

== Mega Sableye's picture is weird? ==
why is the photo for mega sableye have a pokeball thing.. when there's already one on the official website with no pokeball thing..
http://www.pokemonrubysapphire.com/_ui/img/_en/june/art/Mega_Sableye.png
[[User:SbTditdatdwt|SbTditdatdwt]] ([[User talk:SbTditdatdwt|talk]]) 18:07, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Mega Evolution/Archive 1

2014-06-21T18:07:12Z

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Talk:Mega Evolution/Archive 1

2014-06-11T08:33:00Z

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==Ampharos==
This article implies they retconned Ampharos to Dragon-type. As far as I know, he's not; it's the MegaAmpharos who has the Dragon-type... [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 14:55, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
:Oops, didn't notice it. Only if you had reported this 3 minutes ago... [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''The''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''Original''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''One''']] 14:57, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

== mega evolution ==
Please add that, A new area called the Master Tower is related to Mega Evolutions. --[[User:Viv|Viv]] ([[User talk:Viv|talk]]) 15:19, 9 August 2013 (UTC) add this

== Should the abilities be added? ==

In the chart on the page, should the abilities of the mega evolved formes be added? [[User:MrBananaMan212|MrBananaMan212]] ([[User talk:MrBananaMan212|talk]]) 17:35, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

:IMHO yes, at least for abilities confirmed different from the species's regular Ability. That would include:
:* {{a|Adaptability}} for Mega Lucario
:* {{a|Insomnia}} for Mega Mewtwo

:Whether or not to include Mega Blaziken/Mawile/Ampharos/Absol is still a matter of debate. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 04:49, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
::I'm uncomfortable with adding Abilities because we don't know if it will be their only Ability, or if their Hidden Ability will be different. I think the info needs to be there, we just need to be careful about it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:22, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

== Korean name for Mega Evolution ==

For the sake of completeness.... its Korean name is 메가진화 ''Mega {{tt|Jinhwa|Evolution}}''.
* No analysis needed. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 17:50, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

== Request for minor edits... ==

The aspect ratio on Lucario's image seems to be off (Firefox reports it as being scaled up to 150x227, correct size 150x138). Can someone fix that? I'm not sure what to look for in the markup, and of course, the page is currently locked. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 04:53, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
:I think it's like that because the picture got updated today. It should fix itself soon enough. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 04:59, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
:: ''*reloads image*'' I see. Much better. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 03:04, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Um.. I think all of the normal and mega Pokemon's images have been warped by the table. --[[User:Ziggyangelo88|Ziggyangelo88]] ([[User talk:Ziggyangelo88|talk]]) 19:10, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
:No, that's happening to all Pokemon articles on all pages. The staff are updating Pokemon images to make them square so they can be used for something (not yet identified) in the future. For now, they appear as though the old images were stretched into the new dimensions. In time, the new images will properly sync and replace them. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:19, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

== Mega Evolution Physiology ==

Should we add the appearance of the Mega Evolution forms to the Physiology section of the pages of the Pokemon that have them? [[User:Vienna Waltz|Vienna Waltz]] ([[User talk:Vienna Waltz|talk]]) 06:05, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
:I think that's a good idea. The Pokémon probably don't need completely separate articles since it's closer to fore changes than actual evolution. [[User:Reign|Reign]] ([[User talk:Reign|talk]]) 20:05, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
::We can do it like how we did the Kami trio's forme difference physiology. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 20:09, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

== Individual Articles ==

If there's a page for Mega Evolutions, why do the individual Pokemon articles aside from Mewtwo not mention their new forms? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 01:05, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
:We have to make an extreme amount of modifications to our existing tables and infoboxes in order to accommodate Mega Evolutions. Although we try to be as current and up to date as possible, we also want to only have to mess with the coding for high use templates as few of times as possible, as the wiki will have to force itself to update every single page using the templates, thus causing the site to slow down. We're waiting a little bit to work out all the final kinks to these before implementing them. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:51, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
::Fair enough, but couldn't even a mention and link to the article be made in the intro paragraph? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 05:03, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
::I will never understand this site's policies... [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 19:21, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
Totally agree. It sometimes seems on wikis (not just this one), that things that would be an easy fix, at least temporarily, until the permanent thing is decided upon are not done, leaving the wiki with outdated information, which will only turn away those who are looking for it, and they will go to other places instead. Furthermore, even though wikis are supposed to be "community encyclopedias", it often seems the mods have all the power in deciding how and when things are to be done, even if several regular users express the wish for things to be different. (Again not talking just about Bulbapedia). I just tell myself it will be fixed eventually, and if things still aren't right, the pages will eventually get unlocked, and I can fix it then. [[User:CoolDudeAl|CoolDudeAl]] ([[User talk:CoolDudeAl|talk]]) 14:45, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
:Maybe everything could be working with just a few workarounds, but there is a reason why we are not using them. Previously, there hasn't been a Pokémon who could evolve two times and then temporarily evolve a third time just for battle and revert back its final evolution afterwards. Because of that, the templates were never originally programmed to support more than what was already needed since there was no point in doing so at the time, in addition to potentially and unnecessarily slowing down the wiki if it was added to the template. This is why we are currently waiting on the updated templates. We don't want to treat the Mega Evolutions like they are just a form change, especially for those who do have a form change already present in the games. Not to mention that we want to have everything looking nice and in a way that doesn't cause interference with other parts of the wiki. Templates can be coded to do events that they normally would not have to do, such as adding an article to a category if a specific value is true or passes a certain limit. The Pokémon articles rely heavily on this so that the information can be easily added, confirmed, and automatically replaced if there is an issue or mistake. In addition, Archaic is the webmaster of the site and is in charge with keeping the site running efficiently. After him are the other Webmasters, Werdnae as the Editor-in-Chief, the Editorial Board, the Bureaucrats, and so on. Likely, the members of the staff had to make a decision when the Mega Evolution were revealed to keep all the articles as close as possible as to how they were until the PokémonInfobox template could be updated to support everything that we now know. That way, everything could be tested and corrected before the games were release and it would be checked to prevent interference with other parts of the wiki. So, I would assume that when October comes around, the new PokémonInfobox template should already be up and running, which is the goal since we want everything running before the games come out. Hopefully, this will be able to explain what is going on in the background and why things are proceeding as they are. :) --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 17:24, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

== More Megas ==

Today the Pokemon website officially released Mega Ampharos, Mega Mawile and Mega Absol. Now could we update their pictures to these instead of the blurry corocoro scans please. --[[User:Ziggyangelo88|Ziggyangelo88]] ([[User talk:Ziggyangelo88|talk]]) 05:31, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
:They are updated. It takes time for them to update on Bulbapedia. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 05:36, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

== DNA Rainbow ==

Shouldn't it be noted that the rainbow colored shape above a Pokemon's head while it mega evolves is the same symbol found on the Japanese logo for X and Y? --[[User:Ziggyangelo88|Ziggyangelo88]] ([[User talk:Ziggyangelo88|talk]]) 07:40, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
:: The DNA symbol you speak of is the Mega Stone. [[User:Zeta|Zeta]] ([[User talk:Zeta|talk]]) 07:42, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

== Height/weight ==

You may also note that MegaEvo can change {{tt|height and/or weight|Even though it either doesn't change anything, changes both, or changes only weight; no Mega with known weight and height has changed only height}} of the Pokémon. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 07:51, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

== Images ==

While I know Serebii is widely considered a fansite, he ''does'' have some new images of the Mega [http://serebii.net/xy/megaampharos.png Ampharos], [http://serebii.net/xy/megamawile.png Mawile], and [http://serebii.net/xy/megaabsol.png Absol] that are better than the scans. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 15:56, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
:The high quality artwork of the Mega Evolutions has already been uploaded to the archives, it only takes some time for Bulbapedia's system to recognize the image changes and display the latest version, thus why you still see the low quality scans. It usually takes a couple of days before the correct versions (the high quality artwork) is shown. ☼ Blazing[[User talk:Blazingfist|Fist ☼]] 16:01, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
::It appears that images will update when their size is changed, so I made a minor change to the image sizes.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 16:10, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
:::Aha, I see them now. Though, on the topic, I think [http://serebii.net/xy/megakangaskhan.jpg this] might be a better image for Mega Kangaskhan. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 17:26, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
::::That's hosted by Serebii; we're not allowed to use his stuff. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:43, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
:::::Ah, well nevermind then. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 18:45, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

== Original Ability ==

Could you put the primary abilities that the Pokemon has before the mega evolution to show how it changes. --[[User:Ziggyangelo88|Ziggyangelo88]] ([[User talk:Ziggyangelo88|talk]]) 09:26, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
:We don't know how having a Hidden Ability affects the change, so they will not be put up right now. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:28, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

== mega evolution seem similar to something else? ==
Hey not sure if this was the right place to mention this or not, but as a long time fan of Pokemon AND digimon, I cant help but draw similarities between mega evolution, and digivolution from the digimon anime. I only mention this as a matter of curiosity. In the digimon anime, a digimon would digivolve to a higher form during battle, before reverting to they're original form after the battle had ended. I just thought the similarity was worth noting.[[User:Silverfin007|Silverfin007]] ([[User talk:Silverfin007|talk]]) 14:55, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
:It's most likely just a coincidence. They're similar concepts, you know? So unless it's officially stated by Game Freak, that theory should be ignored here, with a possible discussion just on [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net the forums] [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''オリ''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''ジ''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''ナル''']] TheOriginalOne 15:02, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

And if it was intentional, Toei Animation would probably sue Nintendo for plagiarism. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 15:25, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

:It's also similar to characters from Dragonball Z going Super-Saiyan. There's all sorts of things that it could be compared to. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] ([[User talk:Legionaireb|talk]]) 05:32, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

== Mega Evolving ==

As we now know that Mega Evolution occurs when a Pokémon able to Mega Evolve holds a Mega Stone and a specific button is pressed on-screen during battle, as proved yesterday on the Pokémon Game Show demo version of Pokémon X and y, in a photo that was taken, where the in-battle button was showcased. Should the text that states - "In order to undergo a Mega Evolution, the Pokémon must be holding the applicable Mega Stone, and meet a currently unspecified other condition." not be changed to "In order to undergo a Mega Evolution, the Pokémon must be holding the applicable Mega Stone, and the player must select the Mega Evolution button whilst in battle."--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 20:57, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
:No. That was a demo. There is nothing saying that it happens like that in the full game. For all we know, the condition is that it has to be unlocked. I don't think that pressing a button counts as a "condition." [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 21:19, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
::I agree, there could be more requirements and restrictions that need to be uncovered first. With something like that it wouldn't surprise me. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 00:13, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
:::OK, thank you. {{unsigned|ShinyPatch}}

== Demo Mewtwo ==

Has anyone actually gone to the "Pokémon" menu after obtaining the Mewtwo in the demo to see what its Mega Stone is? If they would check its stats to see any increases afterwards, that'd be nice too. I can't seem to find anyone who has, but it seems like it'd be pretty simple to do. For the purposes of getting as much info as possible, perhaps someone with access to a demo who sees this message will give it a try? --[[User:GoldenSandslash15|GoldenSandslash15]] ([[User talk:GoldenSandslash15|talk]]) 22:19, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
:The demos were only playable during Pokemon Game Show, an event that ended several days ago. I suppose it's worth looking at when the English demo is available at PAX Prime (Aug. 30 to Sept. 2). Basically, I'm trying to tell you, don't hold your breath: if anyone even can do so, it'll take more than a week before they get the opportunity. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 22:24, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
You'd think someone would have thought to look this info up when playing the demos. Then again, the demos are bare bone so you likely don't have the option to look at a Pokémon's states. Although, someone could have at least figured out Sylveon's type match up to some extent. Is anyone on the Bulbapedia staff attending the american event? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 23:59, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
:: In [http://youtu.be/5g4c7n6WUO8 this video] of the demo, found on Serebii.Net, the player is given access to the "Pokémon" menu, but the player never does so after obtaining the Mewtwo. --[[User:GoldenSandslash15|GoldenSandslash15]] ([[User talk:GoldenSandslash15|talk]]) 07:47, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
:::Okay, I don't exactly have a GOOD source, but according to one user on GameFAQs (again, this isn't at all reliable), the "Summary" option is missing from the Pokémon that you select in your party. So it isn't viewable, if this guy is telling the truth. --[[User:GoldenSandslash15|GoldenSandslash15]] ([[User talk:GoldenSandslash15|talk]]) 21:40, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
::::We'll keep a look out for that and see about adding it once a better source comes along. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 21:48, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

== Same thing with Mega Garchomp ==

As I stated for Mega Mewtwo X, I also meant the same for Mega Garchomp

[[User:The Seeker|The Seeker]] ([[User talk:The Seeker|talk]]) 20:58, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
:What are you talking about? What did you state? This is the first time you've posted on this talk page. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:37, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

== Pictures for Mega Mewtwo X and Mega Garchomp need replacements ==

I don't think my previous comment made it through since someone deleted it. I'm inquiring as the title says. The official Pokemon X & Y website has better resolution pictures of Mega Mewtwo X and Mega Garchomp that could be .PNG files. I believe the staff member working on this page can take those pictures and put them in this page for Mega Mewtwo X and Mega Garchomp [[User:The Seeker|The Seeker]] ([[User talk:The Seeker|talk]]) 17:57, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
:They've already been updated in the archives. Bulbapedia takes time to update when that happens. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 17:58, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
::Also, as you can see from the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mega_Evolution&action=history page history], you never made a previous comment in the first place. We've been having server errors lately, so it's likely that's why you think you made a comment but it does not exist. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:12, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

== Individual articles for each Mega evolution ==

Should we create individual articles for each Mega Evolution? Since they aren't simple "form changes" like Giratina, Shaymin and Keldeo etc, but a type of evolution, should we treat them as evolutions or should we just put every information on their respective un-Mega Evolved articles? I personally think they could be viable for their own articles if one were to use an altered version of the regular Pokemon pages (like maybe removing sections like Learnsets etc). [[User:Angela-Samshi|Angela-Samshi]] ([[User talk:Angela-Samshi|talk]]) 19:39, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
:I don't think they need their own articles. They really are pretty similar to form changes since they're afaik once a battle and only last in battle. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 19:47, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
::Mega Evolutions are just powered up versions of already existing Pokemon. They are not their own separate species and don't need their own articles. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 20:31, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
:::I think they should at least have illustrated sub-sections in the Pokémon's articles, since some Mega Evolutions have abilities different from even their Hidden Ability (like Mega Venusaur having Thick Fat), as well as different stats and specs. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 22:05, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
::::We are dealing with that. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 22:13, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

== Link template? ==

Could a link template similar to {{template|Shiny}} or {{template|Shadow}} be created for Mega Pokémon? If possible, I would make make the template look like

<nowiki>[[Mega Evolution|Mega]]{{#if:{{{1|}}}| {{p|{{{1|}}}}}}}</nowiki>

The "1" parameter optional so it could be used on Anime episode articles. What do you guys think? - [[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]] 13:01, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

== Might be helpful... ==

It was confirmed that there would be no Kalos mega evolutions, meaning not all starters will get to mega envolve. I'm new dont yell.
[[User:HoennRemake|HoennRemake]] ([[User talk:HoennRemake|talk]]) 14:57, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
:* Do you have a link to a source confirming that? Also, people won't yell at you here very often, at the most we will just be really blunt. Comes with the territory of weeding out fan-speculation from the actual facts, as that's what this site tries to focus on. And some people do believe that something that is obvious to them, but not officially confirmed to be true, can pass as a fact; when there is always a chance they can be wrong, but I digress. ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 21:06, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
::It's from a interview with Masuda. I'll have to try to find a link. Not sure if it needs to be noted however. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 21:07, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
:::Thank you! X-D Was wondering where that was mentioned, this is what happens when I try to rely on the news page here for my source of updates. LOL ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 21:11, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
thanks funktastic for backing me up! [[User:HoennRemake|HoennRemake]] ([[User talk:HoennRemake|talk]]) 21:13, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
::Torpoleon posted [http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=212598 this] on [[Pokémon Professor]]. It's what you're looking for. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 21:26, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
::*Good, thanks. That's all I needed. It now is just a matter of the admins getting the time to add this, but I think they will do that once they get a few more things figured out, including any template updates, 'cause I hear they are trying to sort that out with the way things are changing with the games. (Makes sense, sprites will be replaced with 3D models...maybe, at least for [[Generation VI]] and [[Mega Evolutions]] might have to be implemented somehow, IDK. That's what I think they are gonna have to sort out along with other stuff.) ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 21:48, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

== "Pokémon that Mega Evolve" Category? ==

*This might be a bit premature, but seeing that not all Pokémon Mega Evolve, should there be a category for all the ones that do? Just a suggestion as well. ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 17:40, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
:Well, I personally think there should be a category like that, it'd be very useful. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 01:54, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

== I don't know how to upload pics here... ==
So plz someone who knows, add [http://i.imgur.com/1huQrYY.jpg this] to the article [[User:Sandubadear|Sandubadear]] ([[User talk:Sandubadear|talk]]) 01:53, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

== Misleading information ==

In the paragraph saying that in online battles and the Battle Maison the opponent's Pokemon gets to move first it a false statement. I always lead with my Mega Blastoise there and more often than not out speeds its opponents unless the opposing Pokemon is faster. Also I have watch some wifi battles posted on Youtube and have seen Mega Evolutions move before the opponent.

I think this may need to be changed. --[[User:Zdude0127|Zdude0127]] ([[User talk:Zdude0127|talk]]) 05:05, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

== 100 BST increase? ==

Alakazam's page claims that Alakazam has a BST of 500, but Mega Alakazam has only 590. Assuming that page is correct, this one isn't. Ampharos also goes from 500 to 610. Those are the only exceptions, so it's entirely possible that there was an error calculating them, but I dunno. --[[User:WyndFox|Wynd]] [[User talk:WyndFox|Fox]] 05:41, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

== Pictures ==

A lot of the Mega Evolutions on this page don't have a picture/sprite for them. Can someone please put them in? [[User:Functioning Blaziken|Functioning Blaziken]] ([[User talk:Functioning Blaziken|talk]]) 15:21, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
:For what it's worth, those are missing because official art for them hasn't yet been released, so we don't have any. I don't know why we aren't using screenshots, but that's why there's no artwork for them, at least. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:13, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

== Mega Shinys ==

Has anyone tried mega-evolving a Shiny Pokemon yet? I'm very interested in knowing what happens with that. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] ([[User talk:Legionaireb|talk]]) 05:33, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
:Yep, Mega Evolutions have their own shiny palettes. Shiny Mega Charizard X, for example, is aqua with red wings. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:37, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
::Garchomp is pink/purple, Gengar is white, Banette's the same as regular shiny Banette. Those are the ones that come to mind. I don't think I've seen the others. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 05:47, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Would it be worth putting these into the table to show the shiny forms as well as the normal forms?--[[User:Ditto51|Ditto51/Tom]] ([[User_Talk:Ditto51|My Talk Page]]) 19:03, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
:Not at all. Beyond perhaps mentioning that shinies Mega Evolve shiny, shininess is entirely irrelevant to Mega Evolution. If someone really wants to know what a Mega Pokemon looks like shiny, they can look at the Pokemon's page (...once we get Gen VI sprites/whatever, that is). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:14, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

== Ability of Pokémon before Mega Evolution ==

We should really have a column in the "Before Mega Evolution" section with the Pokémon's standard in-game abilities listed at the least. [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] ([[User talk:Dialgafan1|talk]]) 18:17, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

== Template suggestion ==

I know we've been avoiding treating Mega Evolution like "evolution" per se, since it's only in-battle, but even form changes — including only-in-battle ones like {{p|Castform}}'s — have their forms listed in the "evolution" template above their sprite galleries. Would it not be prudent to include Mega Evolutions in these templates, with ↔ instead of → and with "Mega Evolution" instead of "first evolution" or "second evolution"? And once we get all the Mega Stone images, we could use those for the icons. Is this a good idea? If not, shouldn't we remove forms like Castform's from the evolution template? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 22:11, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==

Is it worth noting that Charizard and Mewtwo are the only Pokémon to receive more than one Mega Form? ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 19:45, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
:No. Since there are more than one of them, there isn't an "only". [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 20:05, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
::I meant as in the only Pokémon to currently have two or more Mega Forms available to them. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 15:50, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
:: And he meant that since there are more than one that using the word "only" is incorrect. With how few Pokémon can Mega Evolve, there being more than one that can do something makes it not notable. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 16:04, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

== Something unique about Mega Blaziken ==

Is it trivia worthy to note that Blaziken is the only Pokémon that gained a Mega Evolution and is not found in any of the Kalos Pokédexes? --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 23:42, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
:Given that there's apparently Mega Latias/Latios just waiting to be revealed, I would say no. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 23:46, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
::On the other hand, the article notes Mewtwo is the only Legendary who can Mega Evolve. I guess since the Lati@s Megas haven't been revealed yet? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 00:01, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

== This Article is Incomplete??? Also Rest and Sleep Talk work normally ==

Ok, Maybe its real early here and I can't get my English reading skills up to par, but what the heck is being asked in that Diglet banner?

Also, in case my reading of it was correct, I just taught my Lucario rest and Sleep Talk, and they both work normally. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 15:05, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
:The banner appears to say that we don't know if Sleeping or Frozen Pokémon can Mega-Evolve, and if they can't, if Sleep Talk or Snore would allow a sleeping Pokémon to do so. --[[User:WyndFox|Wynd]] [[User talk:WyndFox|Fox]] 18:56, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
::I know for a fact Paralysis and Sleep has no effect on preventing Mega Evolution. I'm not sure about frozen Pokémon, but the article already states that status ailments have no effect on mega evolution. Also you can choose to Mega Evolve and select the move Sleep talk and it will work as normal. So I think the banner should be taken down. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 23:50, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==

Is it worth noting that even though mega evolution was introduced in X/Y, none of the new pokemon introduced in those games can mega-evolve?
[[User:Pmawhorter|Pmawhorter]] ([[User talk:Pmawhorter|talk]]) 17:21, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
: Didn't someone say in an interview that this was deliberate, so they didn't end up designing fully evolved Pokemon that felt incomplete? That might be worth mentioning. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 15:39, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

== Mega Pokémon Sprites ==

I was just on the list of Pokémon by base stats page and noticed that Mega Evolved Pokémon are using their normal form's sprite instead of the Mega Evolution's sprite. Have the Mega Evolution sprites been uploaded yet? Shouldn't the articles use these sprites instead of the normal one, after all there is a sprite for each of Deoxys' forms. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:04, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

== Mega Latias & Mega Latios ==

I was just wondering, has Mega Latias and Mega Latios been confirmed? I don't think they have, unless I missed something (which is possible). I know Diance has been confirmed, but like one person asked on Diance's page if the other 2 rumored legends are basically confirmed cause Diance was, should a page be created for them and they said no not until confirmation, would't the same apply to Mega Latias and Mega Latios. Again, unless I missed something, shouldn't they not be on here? {{unsigned|Demers-Vachon}}

admin decision. action replay cheats. plenty of trustworthy people have the lati@site hence why they're under "unreleased". hoopa and volcanion remain unconfirmed until a similar situation happens. --[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 07:59, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Ah ok, I was just wondering, thanks for answering back! :-) {{unsigned|Demers-Vachon}}

I also know that Mega Latias has been released but you have to have the Action Replay Powersaves Cheat Device for 3DS Games or the Action Replay PowerSaves Pro - Nintendo 3DS, and as for Mega Latios, it was removed from the device, along with Diancie, Hoopa, AZ's Floette, and Volcanion, rumors say they are not supposed to be back on the device until July. Mega Latias- Extracted from- theangryaron.deviantart.com {{unsigned|Bubbaroocook}}

== Mega evolution table ==

Could we change the 'X color' in the Mega Evolution table to 'X color light?' I think it'd be a little easier on the eyes. '''[[User:FireGambit|FireGambit]]''' ([[User talk:FireGambit|talk]]) 15:41, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

== Original Abilities (again) ==

I know this has been brought up several times already, but is there some reason at this point the original abilities aren't in the table? The original concern seems to have been uncertainty as to how HAs interacted but it seems pretty sorted that they don't, so... [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] ([[User talk:Ikarishipper900|talk]]) 03:24, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
:Pokémon have several possible Abilities (usually 3), whereas Mega Evolutions have only one. That's why they weren't originally added, but I don't think it means that they cannot be. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 01:41, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

== Strong Bond ==

This page says, "Mega Evolution cannot be achieved if there is not a strong bond between Trainer and Pokémon", so how strong does the bond have to be to Mega Evolve and should we put it on this page? Has anyone found out this yet? ----[[User:Ethan7|Ethan]] ''([[User talk:Ethan7|Discussion]])'' 01:28, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
:It's just a flavor thing in the game's script. It's not related to any game mechanics. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 01:37, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
::Oh, it isn't? So it just says so in the script and there isn't a set [[friendship]] value? It would have been kind of cool if it was that way in my opinion. ----[[User:Ethan7|Ethan]] ''([[User talk:Ethan7|Discussion]])'' 14:56, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

== Fleshing out ==

I was considering fleshing out the body of this page by making it similar to the listing on [[Form differences]]. Each section would started with brief instructions on how to obtain their respective Mega Stone, including whether the Mega Stone upgrade is required or not. It would then compare the base form and the mega form(s) as seen here:

{| style="margin:auto;"
|
{{Compare|name=Blastoise|type=Water|image=009Blastoise|ab=Torrent|abd=Rain Dish|HP=79|Attack=83|Defense=100|SpAtk=85|SpDef=105|Speed=78}}
|
{{Compare|name=Blastoise|forme=Mega Blastoise|type=Water|image=009Blastoise-Mega|ab=Mega Launcher|how={{color2|000|Mega Stone#Blastoisinite|Blastoisinite}}|HP=79|Attack=103|Defense=120|SpAtk=135|SpDef=115|Speed=78}}
|}

Obviously, this would have a large impact on how the page looks, so I wanted to see if I could get anymore opinions and suggestions. - [[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]] 16:11, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

:Sounds like a good idea to me. It's the main page on the concept, after all, so having stats and comparisons here seems like a rational choice. Only thing I don't completely agree with is the Stone locations since that's all on the [[Mega Stone]] article, and the locations of the stones don't matter to the evolutions themselves. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 16:52, 3/19/2014 (UTC)
::I feel like the sections should have more subsistence than just the "compare" panels, though... I can't think of any alternatives. - [[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]] 20:55, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

== MegaEvo evolution template ==

[http://i.imgur.com/SmFWzZx.png LINK] What are you thinking? Is it possible to make something like this template? I already have firebugged a page, but maybe it is a good idea... [[User:Asmod96|Asmod96]] ([[User talk:Asmod96|talk]]) 15:58, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

Should it be worth mentioning that both of the Pokémon that have multiple Mega Evolutions so far are the first Pokémon to ever show up in the anime?

Charizard was the first Pokémon seen in the first Japanese opening of the anime, while Mewtwo (and Mew) were the first seen in all other countries. Now of course, there will be more Pokémon with multiple Mega Evolutions added in the future (we can assume as much) so that might not be important later on, but I think it's something worth noting for now. {{unsigned|BlackButterfree}}
:Possibly, but I don't think it's notable enough to be added onto the page. --[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(Talk)''']] 08:36, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

== Mega Groudon and Mega Kyogre? ==

So Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire and have been announced, and looking at the box covers, it would appear Groudon and Kyogre have been given Mega Evolutions much like the Eon Duo.

Should this be added to the article (I'm guessing not) and if not, should we protect this article to prevent the addition? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:34, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

:The page probably should be protected but there isn't any evidence to suggest that Groudon or Kyogre have Mega Evolutions at this moment in time.--[[User:S2daam|--samm :D]] 21:38, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

[[File:383Groudon.png|thumb|left|240px|original form]][[File:Omega_Ruby_EN_boxart.png|thumb|right|240px|box art]]

[[File:382Kyogre.png|thumb|left|240px|original form]][[File:Alpha_Sapphire_EN_boxart.png|thumb|right|240px|box art]]

::Actually there is visual evidence. The Box art for the games clearly show that Groudon and Kyogre underwent a transformation, and given this gen's mechanics, common sense says its a Mega Evolution.

Groudon's Teeth and Spikes become black, and his tail becomes longer (as evident with the tail spikes being spaced further apart) with the tip fanning out more.

Kyogre's tail becomes morphed with new groves and it has larger as well as new markings as well. Some of its red markings also have become blue.

But regardless the page should be protected, as should all pages relating to RS, these two and the mega evolution mechanics.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 22:11, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

:::"Common sense" and "visual evidence" are not confirmation. They're speculation. Apart from the new markings on Kyogre's forehead, I'd be willing to attribute everything you just listed to artistic license to make the boxart look cooler, not necessarily any actual redesign/form change/Mega Evolution/other in-game mechanic. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 22:36, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
::::I agree, too much early speculation at best, I seriously doubt any of this is true unless if more concrete evidence was officially released by Nintendo themselves. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 22:42, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

:::::Well regardless, at least the page has been protected until further info can be found.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 23:34, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

:::::: They coluld be mega evolutions, but we should wait before we know more about the games as not much is known about them now. --<sc>✓[[User:PikaTepig999|Pika]][[User talk:PikaTepig999|Tepig]][[Special:Contributions/Pikatepig999|999]]✓</sc> 09:13, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

::::::: This could just be a visual indicator that they're under the influence of their respective orbs (which could admittedly be retconned into Mega Stones). [[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:05, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

:::::::: The new CoroCoro info confirms that these are actually Prehistoric/Primal/Primeval form of Groudon & Kyogre which are achieved through a process called "Ancient Devolution". It also confirms Mega's for Sceptile Swampert & Diancie.--[[User:LatS|LatS]] ([[User talk:LatS|talk]]) 18:07, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
:::::::::I suppose it's possible Serebii got "Ancient Devolution" from a source, but I don't see anything on the magazine scans that would translate as "devolution". (I could also be missing it, or it could just be outside of the scans.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:52, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

== New Mega Evolutions from ORAS ==

I already did it so you can just copy and paste the code. {{unsigned|Asmod96}}

{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; border: 3px solid #{{y color}}; background: #{{x color}}"
! rowspan=2 style="background: #{{x color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon
! colspan=2 style="background: #{{x color light}}" | Before Mega Evolution
! colspan=3 style="background: #{{x color light}}" | After Mega Evolution
! rowspan=2 style="background: #{{x color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Mega Stone
|- style="background: #{{x color light}}"
! Image
! Type
! Image
! Type
! Ability
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Venusaur}}
|[[File:003Venusaur.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Grass}}{{typecolor|Poison}}
|[[File:003Venusaur-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Grass}}{{typecolor|Poison}}
|{{a|Thick Fat}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Venusaurite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
| rowspan="2" | {{p|Charizard}}
| rowspan="2" | [[File:006Charizard.png|150px]]
| rowspan="2" | {{typecolor|Fire}}{{typecolor|Flying}}
|[[File:006Charizard-Mega X.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Fire}}{{typecolor|Dragon}}
|{{a|Tough Claws}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Charizardite X}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|[[File:006Charizard-Mega Y.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Fire}}{{typecolor|Flying}}
|{{a|Drought}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Charizardite Y}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Blastoise}}
|[[File:009Blastoise.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Water}}
|[[File:009Blastoise-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Water}}
|{{a|Mega Launcher}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Blastoisinite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Alakazam}}
|[[File:065Alakazam.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Psychic}}
|[[File:065Alakazam-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Psychic}}
|{{a|Trace}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Alakazite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Gengar}}
|[[File:094Gengar.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Ghost}}{{typecolor|Poison}}
|[[File:094Gengar-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Ghost}}{{typecolor|Poison}}
|{{a|Shadow Tag}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Gengarite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Kangaskhan}}
|[[File:115Kangaskhan.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Normal}}
|[[File:115Kangaskhan-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Normal}}
|{{a|Parental Bond}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Kangaskhanite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Pinsir}}
|[[File:127Pinsir.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Bug}}
|[[File:127Pinsir-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Bug}}{{typecolor|Flying}}
|{{a|Aerilate}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Pinsirite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Gyarados}}
|[[File:130Gyarados.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Water}}{{typecolor|Flying}}
|[[File:130Gyarados-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Water}}{{typecolor|Dark}}
|{{a|Mold Breaker}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Gyaradosite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Aerodactyl}}
|[[File:142Aerodactyl.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Rock}}{{typecolor|Flying}}
|[[File:142Aerodactyl-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Rock}}{{typecolor|Flying}}
|{{a|Tough Claws}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Aerodactylite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
| rowspan="2" | {{p|Mewtwo}}
| rowspan="2" | [[File:150Mewtwo.png|150px]]
| rowspan="2" | {{typecolor|Psychic}}
|[[File:150Mewtwo-Mega X.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Psychic}}{{typecolor|Fighting}}
|{{a|Steadfast}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Mewtwonite X}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|[[File:150Mewtwo-Mega Y.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Psychic}}
|{{a|Insomnia}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Mewtwonite Y}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Ampharos}}
|[[File:181Ampharos.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Electric}}
|[[File:181Ampharos-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Electric}}{{typecolor|Dragon}}
|{{a|Mold Breaker}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Ampharosite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Scizor}}
|[[File:212Scizor.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Bug}}{{typecolor|Steel}}
|[[File:212Scizor-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Bug}}{{typecolor|Steel}}
|{{a|Technician}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Scizorite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Heracross}}
|[[File:214Heracross.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Bug}}{{typecolor|Fighting}}
|[[File:214Heracross-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Bug}}{{typecolor|Fighting}}
|{{a|Skill Link}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Heracronite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Houndoom}}
|[[File:229Houndoom.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Dark}}{{typecolor|Fire}}
|[[File:229Houndoom-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Dark}}{{typecolor|Fire}}
|{{a|Solar Power}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Houndoominite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Tyranitar}}
|[[File:248Tyranitar.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Rock}}{{typecolor|Dark}}
|[[File:248Tyranitar-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Rock}}{{typecolor|Dark}}
|{{a|Sand Stream}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Tyranitarite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Sceptile}}
|[[File:254Sceptile.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Grass}}
|[[File:Mega_Sceptile_Official_Artwork.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Grass}}{{typecolor|Dragon}}
|{{a|Lightning Rod}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|???}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Blaziken}}
|[[File:257Blaziken.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Fire}}{{typecolor|Fighting}}
|[[File:257Blaziken-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Fire}}{{typecolor|Fighting}}
|{{a|Speed Boost}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Blazikenite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Swampert}}
|[[File:260Swampert.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Water}}{{typecolor|Ground}}
|[[File:Mega_Swampert_Official_Artwork.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Water}}{{typecolor|Ground}}
|{{a|Swift Swim}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|???}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Gardevoir}}
|[[File:282Gardevoir.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Psychic}}{{typecolor|Fairy}}
|[[File:282Gardevoir-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Psychic}}{{typecolor|Fairy}}
|{{a|Pixilate}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Gardevoirite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Mawile}}
|[[File:303Mawile.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Steel}}{{typecolor|Fairy}}
|[[File:303Mawile-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Steel}}{{typecolor|Fairy}}
|{{a|Huge Power}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Mawilite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Aggron}}
|[[File:306Aggron.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Steel}}{{typecolor|Rock}}
|[[File:306Aggron-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Steel}}
|{{a|Filter}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Aggronite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Medicham}}
|[[File:308Medicham.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Fighting}}{{typecolor|Psychic}}
|[[File:308Medicham-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Fighting}}{{typecolor|Psychic}}
|{{a|Pure Power}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Medichamite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Manectric}}
|[[File:310Manectric.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Electric}}
|[[File:310Manectric-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Electric}}
|{{a|Intimidate}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Manectite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Banette}}
|[[File:354Banette.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Ghost}}
|[[File:354Banette-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Ghost}}
|{{a|Prankster}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Banettite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Absol}}
|[[File:359Absol.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Dark}}
|[[File:359Absol-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Dark}}
|{{a|Magic Bounce}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Absolite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Garchomp}}
|[[File:445Garchomp.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Dragon}}{{typecolor|Ground}}
|[[File:445Garchomp-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Dragon}}{{typecolor|Ground}}
|{{a|Sand Force}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Garchompite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Lucario}}
|[[File:448Lucario.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Fighting}}{{typecolor|Steel}}
|[[File:448Lucario-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Fighting}}{{typecolor|Steel}}
|{{a|Adaptability}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Lucarionite}}
|- style="background:#FFFFFF"
|{{p|Abomasnow}}
|[[File:460Abomasnow.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Grass}}{{typecolor|Ice}}
|[[File:460Abomasnow-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Grass}}{{typecolor|Ice}}
|{{a|Snow Warning}}
|{{DL|Mega Stone|Abomasite}}
|-
|style="background:#FFFFFF; {{roundybl|5px}}"|{{p|Diancie}}
|style="background:#FFFFFF"|[[File:719Diancie.png|150px]]
|style="background:#FFFFFF"|{{typecolor|Rock}}{{typecolor|Fairy}}
|style="background:#FFFFFF"|[[File:Mega_Diancie_Official_Artwork.png|150px]]
|style="background:#FFFFFF"|{{typecolor|Rock}}{{typecolor|Fairy}}
|style="background:#FFFFFF"|{{a|???}}
|style="background:#FFFFFF; {{roundybr|5px}}"|{{DL|Mega Stone|???}}
|}
:There's a note at the bottom saying that no Generation V or VI Pokemon have Mega Evolutions. Please change it to just V, due to Diancie being Generation VI. [[User:Digifiend|Digifiend]] ([[User talk:Digifiend|talk]]) 10:12, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
::We're not certain if the leaks are true. Once there's confirmation, we may add it in. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 14:05, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
:::Excuse me if the question shouldn't go here, but what does define when something is confirmed? Because previous times where there were scan leaks like these they're pretty much assumed to be real. The same happened with Volcanion and Hoppa (which were discovered the same way the Azure Flute was)... --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] ([[User talk:Gabo 2oo|talk]]) 00:11, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
::::It's because the leaks were leaked earlier than usual. Normally, CoroCoro would leak on the 10th of every month, but here it was leaked a day or two early. --[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:21, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
:::::I guess we can at least put in Mega Sceptile and Mega Swampert now that they have been officially confirmed. [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] ([[User talk:Dialgafan1|talk]]) 00:34, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
::::::I don't know if I want to enter those until we find a way to differentiate between XY megas and ORAS megas. Otherwise, the info could be confusing or misleading. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 00:39, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
:::::::Since they're technically unreleased, I put the three new ones in the unreleased section. We're probably going to have to do something to show the availability in each game at some point in the future. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 02:44, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

== Neat..er? Mega Swampert ==
since i cant upload images (..evenificouldthispageisprotectedlel) i made this mega swampert cutout thingie for a forum post so.. if anyone's interested
here: http://www.dodaj.rs/f/W/FD/2EEW0bi3/mega-swampert.png
[[User:SbTditdatdwt|SbTditdatdwt]] ([[User talk:SbTditdatdwt|talk]]) 08:32, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Sceptile (Pokémon)

2014-06-10T21:58:22Z

SbTditdatdwt: /* Trivia about Mega Sceptile */

Is this pronounced as in 'sceptic' or more like 'septic'? Perhaps specifying pronunciation for Pokémon species where it's not obvious would be useful. [[User:Punkrockrevel|Punkrockrevel]] 13:22, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
:I say "sep-tile." '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 06:49, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I pronounce it Skep-tile. The anime pronounces it Sep-tile. --Kimori Geckarbor Hinoarashi 23:04, 14 October 2009 (UTC) Kimori Geckarbor Hinoarashi [[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|Kimori-Hinoarashi]]
== Fastest Starter? ==

Out of all the starting pokemon, wouldn't Sceptile be the fastest with a base stat of 120? Just wondering. --Nidokingdood
:Well, Scepty's an evolution of a starter... but I do think you're right that base-stat-wise, it is the fastest of all final forms. Why not check it out. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 23:23, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::I think Sceptile and Infernape are like, the only fast starters. Kinda sucks. Infernape has a base Speed stat of 108 (Or something.) so that'd make Sceptile the fastest. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 23:26, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

== english name suggestion ==

Logically the name of the final evolution would follow the same rules as the previous forms. In this case plant-reptile compound word. there is a type of plant known as a scepa, or a scepinae. this seems more likely to be the true inspiration than the current etymology for sceptile. {{unsigned|Saffahh}}

Not quite what the guy above is talking about, but it fit under this header. Anyways, to expand upon the "based on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sceptridium|''Sceptridium'']" theme, does anyone else think that the yellow balls on Sceptile's back are somewhat reminiscent of Sori? Just my take on that. - [[User:Zeofar|Zeofar]] 03:13, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

== Sceptile's Tail ==

Well,I think that it's tail is rather based of a pine tree than a palm tree.Palm tree leaves have rather different formations.Well,that's how I look at it.

PS:Everyone I know(including me)says SKEP-TILE - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Uxie legend|Uxie legend]] ([[User talk:Uxie legend|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Uxie legend|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

Looks more like an evergreen(like a xmas tree) to me. [[User:67h5r6h|67h5r6h]] 22:25, 18 July 2010 (UTC)67h5r6h

I was thinking that Sceptile's tail looks more like a fern plant. The yellow orbs on its back could be the sporangium that are found on fern plants. I'm not sure about it being a legume, though. [[User:Fimbulwinter2012|Fimbulwinter2012]] 03:44, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

== Nitrogen ==

Yay! My first edit! In case you need my edit about the Nitrogen in legminous plants fact-checked, its called "Biological N₂ Fixation." --Kimori Geckarbor Hinoarashi 17:31, 4 October 2009 (UTC) Kimori Geckarbor Hinoarashi

== Color change in BW? ==

Is it just me, or did Sceptile's sprite turn into a darker green in Black and White? If it's not just me, is that trivia-worthy? [[User:S and T|S and T]] 07:17, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:Generally changes like that in sprites aren't considered trivia-worthy, sorry. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 07:46, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

== Can no longer learn TM01 in XY ==

I think that Sceptile can no longer learn Hone Claws from TM01 in XY. I tried teaching my Kalos-bred Sceptile Hone Claws and it said "UNABLE"

I think it should be removed but I didn't want to just take it off without telling anyone. {{unsigned|RobPlease}}
:I have a Kalos-born Sceptile. I'm looking at it right now and it is able to learn Hone Claws via TM. Are you sure it's a Sceptile and not a Grovyle? Or the wrong claw move? [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 14:59, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

== Article needs protection ==

With the apparent leaks of CoroCoro, the article should be protected until further info can be verified.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 22:54, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

== Trivia about Mega Sceptile ==

In Sceptile's trivia section, it says that "Sceptile is the only fully evolved single type Hoenn starter." However, Mega Sceptile was revealed to become a Grass/Dragon, so can someone who has access to editing this page either remove it or add that this no longer applies when Sceptile Mega Evolves? --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 15:20, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

We need to confirm whether or not Mega Sceptile (and everything else in the CoroCoro leak, for that matter) is real first. If it is real, however, it might be worth mentioning that it is the only Hoenn starter that doesn't have two types when in its normal state. Or we could state that it is the only starter of the three to gain a new type when it Mega Evolves. Either way, we need proof that Mega Sceptile is not fake. [[User:Uncle Edit|He's here! The one and only...Uncle Edit!]] ([[User talk:Uncle Edit|talk]]) 15:40, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

what are you talking about? when has anything in corocoro been fake!?
[[User:SbTditdatdwt|SbTditdatdwt]] ([[User talk:SbTditdatdwt|talk]]) 13:18, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

There are rumors going around that the leak isn't official, so we need to take the safe route by not inserting such information until we can prove that such information is official. Heck, I have heard there was even a time that a leak has been fake. So, we need to be patient in order to determine if the leak is true or not. Please be patient, and we should confirm this soon. [[User:Uncle Edit|He's here! The one and only...Uncle Edit!]] ([[User talk:Uncle Edit|talk]]) 14:07, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
:It's being rumored as being fake, because it leaked early. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 14:28, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

if it is fake (which im 99.9% sure its not) then i give props to whoever made the 3d game screenshots [[User:SbTditdatdwt|SbTditdatdwt]] ([[User talk:SbTditdatdwt|talk]]) 14:33, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

:There was a trailer at E3 that confirms information from the leak. It had animation of some screenshots, Brendan and May has the look from the leak, Mega Swampert and Sceptile were seen. E3 confirmed the leak is real. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 17:48, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

im guessing that the whole.. ''may be fake'' thing was just part of the program or something.. but now.. you know 100% that its real C: [[User:SbTditdatdwt|SbTditdatdwt]] ([[User talk:SbTditdatdwt|talk]]) 21:58, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Sceptile (Pokémon)

2014-06-10T14:33:57Z

SbTditdatdwt: /* Trivia about Mega Sceptile */

Talk:Sceptile (Pokémon)

2014-06-09T13:18:34Z

SbTditdatdwt: /* Trivia about Mega Sceptile */

Crabhammer (move)

2014-05-11T11:03:16Z

SbTditdatdwt:

{{MoveInfobox|
n=152 |
name=Crabhammer |
jname=クラブハンマー |
jtrans=Crab Hammer |
jtranslit=Kurabu Hanmā |
gameimage=Crabhammer.png |
gameimagewidth=300 |
type=Water |
damagecategory=Physical |
basepp=10 |
maxpp=16 |
power={{tt|100|90 prior to Generation VI}} |
accuracy={{tt|90|85 prior to Generation V}} |
gen=I |
category=Tough |
appeal=3 |
jam=0 |
cdesc=Affected by how well the appeal in front goes. |
appealsc=2 |
scdesc=Earn +2 if the Pokémon performs last in the turn. |
pokefordex=crabhammer |
touches=yes |
protect=yes |
magiccoat=no |
snatch=no |
brightpowder=yes |
kingsrock=yes |
flag7=yes |
flag8=no |
sound=no |
target=anyadjacent |
footnotes= }}
'''Crabhammer''' (Japanese: '''クラブハンマー''' ''Crab Hammer'') is a damage-dealing {{type|Water}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation I]]. Prior to [[Generation III]], it was the [[signature move]] of {{p|Krabby}} and {{p|Kingler}}.

==Effect==
===Generation I to IV===
Crabhammer deals damage and has an increased [[critical hit]] ratio. Crabhammer has 85% accuracy.

===Generation V===
The accuracy of Crabhammer is increased to 90%.

===Generation VI===
The base power of Crabhammer is increased to 100.

==Description==
{{movedesc|Water}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|Stad}}{{gameabbrev3|Stad2}}|A move that is used only by <sc>Pokémon</sc> with pincers. Likely to get a critical hit.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|GSC}}|Has a high critical hit ratio.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|RSE}}{{gameabbrev3|Colo}}{{gameabbrev3|XD}}|Hammers with a pincer. Has a high critical-hit ratio.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|FRLG}}|A large pincer is used to hammer the foe. It has a high critical-hit ratio.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|DPPt}}{{gameabbrev3|HGSS}}|The foe is hammered with a large pincer. This move has a high critical-hit ratio.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|BWB2W2}} {{gameabbrev3|XY}}|The target is hammered with a large pincer. Critical hits land more easily.}}
|}
|}{{left clear}}

==Learnset==
===By [[Level|leveling up]]===
{{Moveheader/Level|Water|1}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|098|Krabby|1|Water|Water|35|41|45|41|41|41|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|099|Kingler|1|Water|Water|42|49|57|56|56|56|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|341|Corphish|1|Water|Water|no|no|35|FRLG=34|38|38|38|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|342|Crawdaunt|2|Water|Dark|no|no|39|FRLG=38|44|44|44|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|692|Clauncher|1|Water|Water|no|no|no|no|no|30|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|693|Clawitzer|1|Water|Water|no|no|no|no|no|30|STAB='''}}
{{Movefooter|Water|1}}

===Special move===
====[[Generation IV]]====
{{Learnlistspecial|Water}}
{{Moveentryspecial|098|Krabby|1|Water|Water|[[Pokéwalker]] - {{pw|Blue Lake}}|'''|||12}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

==In the anime==
{{moveanime|type=water|exp=yes|gen=The foe is hammered with a large pincer.|image1=Ash Corphish Crabhammer.png|image1p=Corphish|image2=Louden Clauncher Crabhammer.png|image2p=Clauncher|image3=Ash Kingler Crabhammer.png|image3p=Kingler|image4=Brodie Ditto Crabhammer.png|image4p=Ditto transformed as Crawdaunt}}
{{movep|type=water|ms=099|pkmn=Kingler|method=Kingler slams its pincer onto its opponent, or Kingler slams its claw into the ground and a round white energy ball slams into the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=water|user=Giovanni (anime)|user1=Giovanni's Kingler|startcode=EP063|startname=The Battle of the Badge|notes=Debut}}
{{movemid|type=water|user=Ash's Kingler|startcode=EP075|startname=Round One - Begin!}}
{{movep|type=water|ms=342|pkmn=Crawdaunt|method=Crawdaunt hits the opponent with its claws. Sometimes they glow white before hitting it.}}
{{movemid|type=water|user=Team Aqua Grunt (Trainer class)|user1=A Team Aqua Grunt's Crawdaunt|startcode=AG017|startname=Stairway to Devon}}
{{movemid|type=water|user=Brodie|user1=Brodie's Ditto in the form of Crawdaunt|startcode=AG083|startname=Unfair-Weather Friends|notes=Used via {{color2|{{water color dark}}|Transform (move)|Transform}}}}
{{movemid|type=water|user=Mr. Saridakis|user1=Mr. Saridakis's Crawdaunt|startcode=AG152|startname=On Olden Pond}}
{{movemid|type=water|user=Kyle (Sinnoh)|user1=Kyle's Crawdaunt|startcode=DP079|startname=Strategy with a Smile!}}
{{movep|type=water|ms=341|pkmn=Corphish|method=One or both of Corphish's pincer glows white and it hits its opponent with one of them, or Corphish's pincers glow white and it hits the ground, sending an invisible shockwave at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=water|user=Corphish (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Corphish|startcode=AG021|startname=Which Wurmple's Which?}}
{{movemid|type=water|user=Ash's Corphish|startcode=AG023|startname=Gone Corphishin'}}
{{movemid|type=water|user=Corphish (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Corphish|startcode=DP112|startname=Cheers on Castaways Isle!}}
{{movep|type=water|ms=692|pkmn=Clauncher|method=A stream of water spirals around Clauncher's right claw. It then jumps and hits the opponent with its claw.}}
{{movebtm|type=water|user=Louden|user1=Louden's Clauncher|startcode=XY022}}

==In the manga==
===In The Electric Tale of Pikachu manga===
{{movemanga|type=water|exp=yes|gen=The user hits the opponent with one of its claws.|image1=Ash Kingler Crabhammer EToP.png|image1p=Kingler}}
{{movep|type=water|ms=099|pkmn=Krabby|method=Kingler hits the opponent with one of its claws.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=water|user=Ash's Kingler|startcode=ET12|startname=Welcome to the Big Leagues|notes=Debut}}

===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
{{movemanga|type=water|exp=yes|gen=The user hits the opponent with one of its claws.|image1=Misty Krabby ViceGrip Crabhammer Adventures.png|image1p=Krabby}}
{{movep|type=water|ms=098|pkmn=Krabby|method=Krabby slams one of its claws into the opponent.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=water|user=Misty|user1=Misty's Krabby|startcode=PS077|startname=Striking Golduck|notes=Debut}}

==In other generations==
{{Movegen|
type=Water|
genI=Crabhammer I|
genII=Crabhammer II|
genIII=Crabhammer III|
genIV=Crabhammer IV|
genV=Crabhammer V|
}}
{{Movegen|
type=Water|
Stad=Crabhammer Stad|
Stad2=Crabhammer Stad2|
}}

==In other languages==
{{Langtable|color={{water color}}|bordercolor={{water color dark}}
|hr=Krablji Čekić
|zh_cmn=螃蟹拳 ''{{tt|Pángxiè Quán|Crab Punch}}''
|nl=Krabhamer
|da=Krabbehammer
|fi=Rapumoukari ([[EP063]]) Rapuvasara (original series) Saksivasara (AG series)
|fr=Pince-Masse
|de=Krabbhammer
|el=Σφυρί Οστρακόδερμου
|id=Pukulan Kepiting
|it=Martellata
|ko=찝게햄머 ''Jjipge Hammer''
|no=Krabbehammer
|pl=Krabomłot
|pt_eu=Martelo Caranguejo
|pt_br=Martelo Caranguejo
|es=Martillazo}}
{{-}}
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}

[[Category:Moves with a high critical-hit ratio]]

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