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Talk:Palkia (Pokémon)

2011-04-26T03:02:19Z

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== Fallic Imagery? ==

Anyone else think this Pokémon looks like a wang? I mean, it looks a lot like one. Anybody?
:First off, it's spelled "Phallic". Second, no. We have {{p|Stunky}} looking like an ass, but I don't think that Game Freak would make a Pokémon that looks like ''that'', at least not intentionally.

please forgive my improper format, I've only been exposed to Wikis a short time and do not have a great grasp of how to sign my name using the system's mark-up language. But onto the matter at hand.

Intentional or not. There is certainly a degree of ambigious phallic imagery concerning Palkia. If one removes the rest of the image and looks only at the neck and head-plate. Then its very easy to mistake it for a circumcized phallus.

Taking this a step further, if one includes the pair of armored shoulder spheres. Then from certain angles they appear to be testicles. If you want a good reference image, check Palkia's sprite when deployed as part of your team.

I doubt there was any malicious intent with this. In some countries and traditions the phallus is seen as an icon of strength, etc, etc. Though I don't think this was the intent either.

I think in the end, it just happend to turn out looking that way, either by accident or because of some artist's subconscious.

I don't believe its worth any kind of mention though in the main article. No noteworthy source has called attention to it, and much like inkblots or dreams, its open to one's individual interpretation. As Freud said: "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."[[User:Roke Tanuki|Roke Tanuki]] 06:32, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
[[Image:Spr b g4 484 s.png|right|frame|Shiny back sprite]]
:Combine the positioning of back sprite with the colour of the shiny sprite. Intentional or not, that is phallic imagery. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:11, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
::So are we gonna put in the article that it looks like a giant Pokédong or what? I think we ought not to... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:10, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
:::I think it's not a good idea to put it in the article, and I don't think either it's a great idea to put in Stunky's Origin section that its face looks like buttocks. Some things are obvious enough to be in some articles and some are just some people's imagination. Yes, Phallkia looks like a phallus, but only if you want to see it.'''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 04:19, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
::::What the (bleep!) is wrong with you people?!!?!??!!?!!?!?!?!?!!! Great, I just peed in my pants because of you! Not literally of course but still! --[[User:StewiesGiratina|StewiesGiratina]] 04:01, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Um... do you ''really'' think Nintendo would base a Pokémon on something like ''that''? OK, so Stunky's resemblance to a bottom is sort of understandable, but not this! And is this ''really'' the best place to talk about it? To my knowledge, the Discussion pages are accessable by all site visitors, and we don't really want eight-year-olds reading it. I personally cannot really see the resemblance anyway; OK, so it's long and pink, but then so is a pink sock, or a sausage. Unless Palkia gets a new attack in Generation V called Urine Cannon, I'm afraid I am going to dismiss this case as nonsense. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 18:35, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

:Wow. This is the most retarded thing i've ever heard. This is even stupider then the people who claim to see "that thing" in disney movies. {{unsigned|Morgil27}}

== Tootsies ==

I just read the trivia on Pearly-boi's footprint and I am all up for putting footprint sprites into all Pokémon articles. Anyone else like this idea? --[[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]] 23:50, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

I think that we should add it to the sprite table. Ask an admin about it. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]'''
:Either that or in the infobox. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 00:04, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

::And what about Pokémon [[Cry|cries]]? Someone would like to hear them... I can upload them in *.ogg format. If someone agrees I can upload something =) '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 16:22, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

:::Well, the link between Bulbapedia and the Archives isn't exactly perfect right about now. Some stuff uploaded that should be showing up isn't ([[List of English opening themes]] is a good example; all 11 images in the first table are uploaded, but Bulbapedia only recognizes the first 7).

::While I say we could use the Pokémon cries, now's not a good time to upload them. The problems between Bulbapedia and the Archives should be ironed out first before such a task is undertaken. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:28, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I think it would be cool to add their cries. I've actually recorded the cries of Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, and Darkrai... Maybe I could upload them (with my dad's help; I'm only 12, remember. I don't know how to upload them in a certain format). [[User:Palkiajosh|パルキアJosh]] 22:05, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
:I have the 493 cries (missing Shaymin's Sky Forme Cry) all ripped from their original games (001-150 from RBY, 152-251 from GSC and so on) so they don't lose quality. I only wait for permission to upload them. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 22:41, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

==second time==
if the player talks to Lucas/Dawn in pearl after defeating palkia and probably other conditions are met then he will say palkia reappeared on spear pillar(i think only if u didn't catch it.).
Yes, that does happen.I accidentally defeated my Palkia(with [[Close Combat]]), and I didn`t even have to talk to Dawn to make it reappear.[[User:MistikaPhantoka72|MistikaPhantoka72]] 04:52, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

== Catch Rate? ==

It says it the Trivia Section that Palkia, [[Dialga (Pokémon)|Dialga]], and [[Phione]], are the legendary that has the highest catch rate. But what about [[Shaymin (Pokémon)|Shaymin]]? It has a catch rate of 45!
[[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 03:41, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Hahahahah you are such a comedian!
Shaymin has the LOWEST legendary catch rate!
hahahahaha--[[User:SPCC|SPCC]] 03:02, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

== Awfully Similar Cry ==

Am I the only one who seem to reconize Palkia's roar in the anime? It sounds like a freaking large reptile creature from Star Wars!!! I think it was from Episode III Revenge of the Sith but I forgot what those creatures are called. "Veraractyl" or something like that?. . .

Also, Palkia's roar seems to have two different parts. I just described the first part, now to tell about the second one. It sounds like a jet engine with an earthquake! How odd, I just saw this Godzilla video on YouTube and there was an opponent called King Ghidorah or something like that. . . and it sounds EXACTLY like Palkia's second roar! Hmmm. . . must have been recorded or something. . . --[[User:StewiesGiratina|StewiesGiratina]] 04:18, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Wow, i always thought its anime cry sounded familiar. Thanks for figuring it out.[[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 02:41, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

== Anime section ==

Why don't wee just make [[Dialga (anime)]] and [[Palkia (anime)]] to the main sections of the anijme versions of {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}}? it is impossible to have multiple creators and rulers of time and space, aswell as mutliple [[Arceus (Pokémon)|multiple creators]] of the {{pkmn|universe}}. [[User:Pokémon Lover King Mario|Pokémon Lover King Mario]] 09:22, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Dialga_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29#Anime_section Reply.] '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 22:39, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

== theropod vs. iguanodon ==

Ohai. The article states Palkia looks like a "theropod, the bipedal carnivorous dinosaurs" but I think it's much more of an iguanodon or the like.

[http://library.thinkquest.org/C0128701/Pictures/iguanodon.jpg Random Pic] and
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iguanodon Wikipedia article]

Mostly because of the arms and overall posture.

Talk:Genesect (Pokémon)

2011-04-26T02:43:17Z

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== Can this be removed? ==

I can't stress this enough Just because somthing looks simmilar to somthing else does not say anything about it's origin. Can the part about the Napalm man be removed? It is speculation and therfore does not belong in the origin section, unless there is evidence to support it (If some is found please tell me what it is). --'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]][[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]''' 00:13, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

==Last of National Dex Trivia==
I noticed this and thought it would be good trivia:
*"Genesect is the only Pokémon that was at one point the final Pokémon in the National Dex that could not be a {{type|Psychic}}."
Mew, Celebi, Deoxys, and Arceus holding a Mind Plate for the record. Also, Dennis. [[User:Yurtablemoron|Yurtablemoron]] 11:18, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

== Genesect: Mewtwo of Gen V ==

I got a lot of hunches on this pokemon being artificially created by Team Plasma. There are some reasons why: First, both are being developed as the most strongest pokemon created by science. Second, they originated from the remains of a extinct pokemon (Mewtwo originated from a fossilized hair of Mew and Genesect originated from a bug-like fossil). Third, both villainous group shares the same goal on making them the strongest pokemon ever created to rule the world. And fourth, both of them escaped for unknown reasons in the games. But I know there are more to this relation, somehow....
[[User:Duo2nd|Duo2nd]] 02:46, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
:Uh like what? Lots of Gen V Pokémon have similarities. Doesn't mean they're related. Also, Mewtwo being created by Team Rocket isn't confirmed to be canon in the games. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 02:54, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
::It's not confirmed because it isn't true. Mr. Fuji and Blaine weren't a part of TR in the games [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 02:59, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Note that the Pokédex entry says RE-constructed meaning that it probably wasn't created by team plasma in the first place, probably created by some anciant race or the monarchy. Still it is unlikely that it has any relation to any of the other Pokémon. --'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]][[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]''' 04:12, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

== Origin of Genesect? ==

Maybe it's a plural/singular grammatical issue, but the article says that

"Genesect may be generally based on the giant insects of the Paleozoic era, although its Steel-type features give it a somewhat robotic appearance. It has existed for 300 million years, making it as old as the cockroach."

Does "it" refer to "giant insects" or does it refer to Genesect, for if it refers to Genesect, than it's wrong right? --[[User:Joeshie|+ Joeshie +]] ''([[User talk:Joeshie|is Mæ!]])'' 02:51, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
:What are you suggesting is wrong? Genesect has existed for 300 million years, it says so in its Black dex entry (which I haven't gotten around to translating and adding yet). I'm not quite sure if that really fits in its origin section, though... [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 18:15, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
::Hmmm... so what it's saying is that it's had a gun (albeit less powerful) from over 300 million years ago? --[[User:Joeshie|+ Joeshie +]] ''([[User talk:Joeshie|is Mæ!]])'' 18:29, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Is Genesect actualy robotic or part robotic? This may very easily be irelevent to the outcome of it's origin, but it reminds me of Atlatian technology. It was believed that the technology of Atlantis could be used to creat powerful Vehicles, wepons and atomatons. It also says in the Pokédex that it was reconstructed suggesting it was created by someone other than team plasma (althogh I don't know who). --'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]][[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]''' 19:58, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
::::part robotic [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 20:04, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Could the "others" be the pigmask army form MOTHER 3? They took normal creatures and turned them into cyborgs also knows as chimeras, possibly a reference to Mother 3? could you add this it the trivia section?
[[User:Ghost chimera|Ghost chimera]] 08:00, 4 December 2010 (UTC)Ghost chimera
:::::what does Mother 3 have to do with this? Lot's of series do this...sonic the hedgehog for example [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 08:14, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
The people who worked on MOTHER 3 also worked on Pokemon, this is why Mewtwo looks like Giygas.
[[User:Ghost chimera|Ghost chimera]] 22:00, 4 December 2010 (UTC)Ghost chimera

== Romanization ==

Isn't the Katakana pronounced Genosect (Genosekuto), not Genesect? ----[[User:Sparen|Sparen]] ''([[User talk:Sparen|talk]])'' 22:08, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
:From what I understand, Genesect's the name that's been officially trademarked.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 22:11, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
::This should be brought up again as it has not been trademarked Genesect, at least as far as the information available online on the official JP trademark database. Unless someone has a source it should be changed. [[User:Pokejungle|Pokejungle]] 06:15, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Genesect.com, Keldeo.com, Tsutarja.com, mijumaru.com, pokabu.com. All parked by the same company. Can you drop the romanization issue now? —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 06:43, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

==Artwork?==

I was wondering - what will be done for artwork section of the event legendary Pokémon until their official Ken Sugimori art is released? I remember Arceus had fan art until its Sugimori art is revealed, so will Kerudio, Meloetta, and Genesect follow the same route? I'd be happy to provide Sugimori-style artwork for them if that ends up being the case. I know this is probably jumping the gun quite a bit, but I figured it couldn't hurt to ask. [[User:Xous|Xous]] 22:49, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
:Most likely we will get Dream World art. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:48, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, I doubt Dream World art will be released before Genesect itself is (what purpose would it have, besides appearing to condone hacking?). And Sugimori art will likely be released at the same time. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 22:49, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
:::Ah, for some reason I completely forgot about Dream World art at the time I was writing that. If it doesn't get Dream World art before its Sugimori art is released, though, I'll still be glad to provide art for it and the other event Legendary Pokémon. [[User:Xous|Xous]] 17:10, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
::::At the moment at least, Dream World art looks very unlikely, as all of the site's Pokemon listings drop off after #646. There's nothing stopping it being added in an upgrade, but that probably won't be until the official release, which would bring Sugimori Art too. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 17:18, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
Hey, I've seen Sugimori's official art, but It's JPEG, Low quality, little dimensions and isn't all that good. There's no good images of Genesect you can find right now. - [[User:PikaThunder|PikaThunder]] • [[User Talk:PikaThunder|PT's Talk]] - 15:12, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Nevermind, it wasn't actually Sugimori artwork. Probably Fan art. - [[User:PikaThunder|PikaThunder]] • [[User Talk:PikaThunder|PT's Talk]] - 20:55, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
:The piece I offer to use in this article is [http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/031/3/a/genosect_v_4_by_xous54-d38igum.png[this one]]. I'd be able to remove my watermarks should it be found acceptable. (I can also supply a full-size version if necessary.) And, as I mentioned earlier, I could supply artwork for the two formes of Meloetta and artwork for Keldeo to serve as placeholders until their official art is revealed. [[User:Xous|Xous]] 03:43, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
Didn't we use fanmade sprites for Zorua and Zoroark once? I mean, we could simply put up that "THIS SPRITE IS FAKE" tag again if we use fanart for these three.... Doesn't that seem like an idea? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 16:18, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
:I'm not sure if there's been a policy change regarding using fan art as placeholders, but in the case of Arceus there was simply a tiny line of text below the image stating "Fan Artwork of Arceus" or something to that effect. I would upload the artwork to the articles myself, but I don't want to break any rules or overstep my bounds, and I really don't know how I'd go about adding the artwork (and I don't want to risk messing up the pages). [[User:Xous|Xous]] 02:55, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
::I can give you some very well-made fan art from [[Keldeo]], [[Meloetta]] and [[Genesect]], if you want !
::--[[User:Wolfy|Wolfy]] 10:49, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

== Trade? ==

In the obtaining section of the page, it says Genesect is only available by trading. What does this mean?—[[User:Zekasaur|♫Ze]][[User talk:Zekasaur|kas]][[Special:Contributions/Zekasaur|aur♫]] 11:12, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
:It's default for unobtainable Pokémon, it should be changed.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 11:14, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
::No, it shouldn't. For Pokémon with no in-game location, it should just say trade. Events don't count unless they give access to an in-game location. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:48, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

== Dennis ==

I heard almost everyone at YouTUBE giving Genosect the nickname Dennis due to the confusion caused with Geechisu's battle music. Prior to the reveal it was Geechisu's theme instead of Genesect's theme everybody called it Dennis due to the chorus in the track. Not sure if alot of people still refer to him as such now but could we atleast mention it since Tsutarja's page mentioned Smugleaf? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 00:47, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
:It's not even that popular, so no. It's only notable for Smugleaf because the popular video game blog site, Kotaku, made it. - [[User:050294|050294]] 04:12, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, Smugleaf is notable because it was mentioned in [[a:File:NZAU_Magazine_Scan.jpg|an official Nintendo magazine]], ''not'' because it was made by a popular site. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:46, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
:::Hm, that was in the UK Nintendo magazine too, so I guess it was in two magazines. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 16:35, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

== Really? ==

"Genesect is currently the only Pokémon which names a villainous team in its Pokédex entry." The game isn't even out in English, and this is in the article? The pokedex entry doesn't have any English words (obviously, but I wanted to make sure anyway) Are we going by some translation that could potentially be wrong? Or was this ACTUALLY mentioned somewhere? [[User:In A Manica|In A Manica]] 03:00, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:Hmmm... not sure whether to withdraw this or not. There's a supposedly correct translation when the mouse is hovered over the pokedex entry, but I'd at least like to know where it came from because I doubt it's correct. [[User:In A Manica|In A Manica]] 03:19, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
::It came from {{u|Umeko}} who is a Japanese speaker. She has gone through and translated just about every Pokédex entry that is on Bulbapedia. They're the Japanese entries that are placeholders until the English games come out. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 03:39, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:::oh ok thank you for telling me. I was confused when I first saw that bit of trivia. [[User:In A Manica|In A Manica]] 03:45, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

== Evolution? ==

Why are the 5 different images of Genesect shown in the evolution? The cassettes only affect ONE move and a coloring of ONE detail, nothing else. It's no major forme change and is far less impressive than Arceus's formes, doesn't change stats, type or anything like others like Meloetta for instance. I don't think it should be considered to evolve. --—[[User:Venomoth|'''''V'''e№moth'']][[User talk:Venomoth| ♦]] 01:56, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:It isn't evolution, it's forme change, first of all. Second, Genesect's different formes' sprites are needed just as much as Gender differences are. Gender differences don't effect type, moves, stats, or anything! It's just a "small" difference in appearence, but its still used because it makes the article more complete showing what the different genders look like. Just like how showing Genesect's different formes make the page more complete by showing what it looks like when holding specific items. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 02:05, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
::Yes, I know the differences between forme, evolution and gender and this is not really making much sense. Look at Arceus, Its coloring changes but so does Its ''type'' when it holds its objects that give it that forme change - Similar to Genesect's cassettes, but a bigger change. Secondly, everyone came after me when I did [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Kenhorou_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&oldid=1234971#Evolution this], a very obvious, but according to all the other users who ganged up on me, unimportant difference, as was also pointed out to me with [[Burungel (Pokémon)|this one]]. Genesect is somewhere between these two cases, but mostly, if ''Arceus'' is not considered evolved through its forme changes, Genesect definitely shouldn't be either. --—[[User:Venomoth|'''''V'''e№moth'']][[User talk:Venomoth| ♦]] 02:37, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:::I think the only reason Arceus doesn't do it is because of how ludicrously big it would be. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:03, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
::::The thing is that there is a distinction between Forme differences and gender differences. Other than gender differences, however, every Pokémon with different forms should have the appropriate special displays on their page (even those, such as Genesect, where the minimal difference only lends itself to a larger evobox.)--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:19, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::On a somewhat related note, I don't quite like how the form evoboxes are set up. Using Genesect's as an example, it is linear, so it says that only certain forms can change to other ones, which is not true. Genesect holding any kind of cassette (or none at all) can then switch items to any other (or discard it). The evobox should be a big circle with arrows going between all possible combinations. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 01:38, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::: Might be easier to not use any arrows at all. Two-way arrows or simple lines could seem messy if we can instead figure out a placement that doesn't lend itself to strict ordering. How about 3 above and 2 below, or 2 above and 3 below? Or 2, 2, 1, with no Cassette as the odd one out? Or if that circle is really on the table, just place them in it unconnected. But other than that, I definitely see the merit in toticombinatory arrows. [[User:PLA|PLA]] 17:29, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

== Worth Noting? ==

Should it be written that Genesect is the third man made Pokemon after Porygon and Mewtwo. I count Porygon as one since its two evolved forms are simply upgraded versions of it. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 18:30, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
:[[Artificial Pokémon]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 01:01, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

== Forme Change ==

Genesect's Evolution section makes it as if, for example, that Genesect must first equip the Lightning Cassette before equipping the Blaze Cassette which simply isn't the case. Is there a way to do this to make it so its clear that all the formes are interchangeable? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 18:18, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

== Unable to see image ==

i am unable to see the images for genesect, keldeo, and meloetta. All there i see is a link of some sort. Can anybody please clarify why i am unable to see these images? [[User:Karnik555|Karnik555]] 00:00, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
:Because it has not been uploaded and they don't exist. So, we can't really upload one now can we? —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 00:01, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

==Genesis?==
Genesect does not have an official pronunciation as of yet; it could be jenna-sect for all we know. I was wondering if the "Gene" prefix could refer to genesis, in one instance meaning the beginning of something. The games say Genesect has existed for quite a long time, so could this be a name origin?-- [[User:Swagmander|Swagmander]] 04:07, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
:A long time =/= beginning. It is isn't as unlikely and the option below, but it most likely refers to gene/genetics/a similar term. I am not going to completely oppose it being added, but I do think it shouldn't be there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:38, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

== Genocide? ==

Could the name come from the term 'genocide'? {{unsigned|Fencingwolf13}}
:Possibly, due to its large cannon, and that it was apparently the most feared hunter in its time. There have been much less likely name origin theories, so it should be added. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 17:01, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
::The fact that it was specifically romanized "Gen'''e'''sect" makes me doubt that. It was genetically engineered, so it almost certainly comes from gene/genetics/a similar term. And situations where . --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:38, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
:::It should be noted that Japan does not have a romanised word for Genocide starting with ゲノ. Genocide is romanized as ジェノサイド (JEnosaido.) What the Geno part in its name refers to is actually Genome (ゲノム/Ge-no-mu, and that's Geh, not Jee)... Which is why I think the English name is utterly ridiculous because it never was referring to Genocide in the slightest. Design be damned. I'd personally prefer it if people removed the thing about Genocide in the name details, since it's never referred to that at all. Common sense and language knowledge here, people. Callyne4 23:46, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

==Edit Request==
Why is this page protected? Basically, I was going to modify two pieces of trivia, to look like this:

* ''Genesect is the only {{type|Bug}} [[legendary Pokémon]], excluding {{p|Arceus}} holding the [[Insect Plate]]''.

* ''Despite it being its [[signature move]], Genesect cannot receive STAB from {{m|Techno Buster}}.''

'''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 17:01, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
:The page should only be protected to new users. Any user that is autoconfirmed (which you are) should be able to edit it. This was done to all the Pokémon pages as too many new users were adding names which have not been officially released. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:33, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
::I now know whats happnened, I've seen the locked banner and automatically assumed that I was unable to edit it, lol. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 12:31, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

== Sprites ==

It would be a good idea to make a little template that only shows one form of Genesect at a time (ie, normal, holding blaze cassette, holding aqua cassette, etc) like Arceus's one? I've had this idea because the only difference are some color details and techno buster's type. --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 15:45, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
:Arceus's one only does that because it has so many sprites. It is much better this way. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:36, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

== Rotom ==

Is his like this game's Rotom?
It does basically the same thing, and it is worth the same practically.

Talk:??? (type)

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==Statistical averages==
Wait, how can ??? type have statistical averages? -OmegaPlatinum
:That... is a very good question. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 04:17, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
::It was [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Unknown_type&diff=150318&oldid=148555 added] a while ago, obtained through hacking the game (also check the diffs following). Don't think that should count, myself. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 05:10, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Nor do I, so I baleeted it. Arceus alone should not be what something's based on. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 07:11, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

== RBY? ==

Wait a moment, where is ??? featured in RBY? As far as I can remember, some glitches had ???, but it says "Non-glitch" element, so I assume in the programming.. but still, it slightly weirds me out that it says "Generation I". [[User:TinaTheKirlia|TinaTheKirlia]] 16:12, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
:Because it was a glitch in Gen I, but not in Gen II onwards, I'm guessing.--[[User:Nebula|Nebula]] 17:09, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

== Arceus and Roost ==

It's been suggested that when a Sky Plate-holding Arceus uses the move Roost, it will turn into the ???-type Arceus. However, as the only way for Arceus to GET Roost is through hacking, I have not been able to test these claims yet. However, if anyone here manages to play out this scenario by hacking an Arceus that has the move, please edit the article accordingly should the theory be proven correct. --[[User:Mburusu|M. Burusu]] 08:02, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
:Well, then the same could happen to a Smeargle that Sketched Skill Swap and Roost, then swapped abilities with Kecleon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 06:23, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
::THAT I could probably try out . . . but I don't think I have any Smeargle spare. I'll have to bring a friend into this . . . thanks for the suggestion! --[[User:Mburusu|M. Burusu]] 04:00, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I hate to bump ancient conversations, but I tested this last night.

Test 1: Smeargle Skill Swapped Kecleon. Switched in Nidorino and used Peck, turning Smeargle to a Flying type. Smeargle used Roost and Nidorino used Peck again, trying to activate color change; if Roost had changed Smeargle to ???, Color Change would activate. It did not.

Test 2: Smeargle Skill Swapped Kecleon. Nidorino Pecked it. Switched in Magcargo that held Lagging Tail. Smeargle Roosted and Magcargo used Earth Power. KO'd Smeargle.

Test 3: Same as Test 2, except Magcargo used Rock Smash. No effectiveness message.

My findings; if a pure Flying-type uses Roost, it DOES lose the Flying typing. However, it does not gain the Normal type temporarily, nor any type against which Fighting is Super/Not Very Effective, for that matter. More testing is needed to be absolutely sure, but I think that a pure Flying type that uses Roost does indeed become the ??? type. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 17:37, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
:UPDATE! Between Ground and Fighting, I was able to eliminate all types except Water, Fighting, and Dragon. I just conducted another test in which I used Meowth's Bite (eliminating Fighting), and Bibarel's Water Gun (eliminating Water and Dragon). Thusly, I can confirm that when Smeargle is a pure Flying type and uses Roost, its type becomes ???. I should maybe add this to the article? Also, since article names with question marks now work, I shall do with this what I did with the Generation III Glitch Pokémon and move this article to the correct title. If anyone disagrees, feel free to move it back. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 20:31, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

== How much does anyone wanna bet... ==

That ???-type Arceus is what Arceus becomes in the reverse world? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:52, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

:I'm sorry, but unless we can get such a place in the games, the most I can wager is [[$1|2¢]]. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:54, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

I think there's going to be an event sometime after the Arceus event to get a special plate for the ???-type form. After all, Nintendo has demonstrated in the past that they can edit the coding of the Pokémon games (Berry Glitch Fix). A similar coding update could be used for the Apricorn Poké Balls from GSDS. [[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 02:12, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

==???==
Doesn't redirect here. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 06:50, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

==Porygon?==

In Generation II, Porygon can learn Curse using the TM for it. I wonder if Porygon only knows Conversion and Curse, and it uses Conversion, if it has a chance of becoming the ???-type or if the game's coding ignores Curse when Conversion is used and doesn't do anything, either failing or executing with no effect since Porygon is already the type of Conversion. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] 18:26, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
:If Porygon uses Conversion and if it only knows Curse, then Conversion fails. GameFreak kept that in mind. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 03:12, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

==??? type and Judgement ==

If Arceus would be holding a ??? plate and used Judgement, or if the Smeargle Roost/Skill swap would work, what would be the outcome? As this might be the only legit move capable of doing ??? type damage. [[User:Cake of Rage|Cake of Rage]] 20:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
:As there is no ??? plate, I don't think that's possible. I guess, with some fairly intensive hacking, we might be able to come up with something. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 20:54, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
::I hacked a patch into the game with an item called "Test Plate". It boosts ??? type moves and would change arceus into ??? type. anyway i gave to arceus in three ways.

1) Gave to Arceus. Got into starly battle. Used judgement. It said "arceus used |-|-Z! and it acted as if it was a ground type move or something, because i repeated the test with bidoof and it said "Arceus used |-|-Z!" and it said "It's super effective!".

2) Gave to Arceus. Saved. Battled Cynthia. It said "Arceus used Judgement!" Then it said "It's super effective!" Lucario comes out. "arceus used judgement!" Then it was super effective again. all pokemon were One Hit KO'ed.

3) Gave to Arceus. Entered a Contest. Used judgement. It said arceus used J---?!!!" and the contest froze for a second. Then it came up with my 18th box on my PC, then I got into a wild battle with Linoone. Then it made me battle my rival (as at the battleground) then it took me back to the contest, where the game came up with the Contest Completed thingymobob. I had lost?! even though i was the only entrant. This is wierd! Then I saved and the game froze after I saved. Turned off and on and I was in Solacion town. My Test Plate was gone.

Hope that helped!!! [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:45, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
:Please look and someone add onto the article! [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 11:27, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

:Sounds like a trippy experience. I can't possibly imagine what kind of glitch in the code could possibly cause those sequence of events. [[User:ProxyVortex|ProxyVortex]] 20:10, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

== Um...no ==

Shadow moves in Pokémon XD aren't ??? type, they're ----- (or just "Shadow") type. Unlike ??? moves, they have Physical/Special differentiaiton, and they have type effectiveness (although not STAB). In fact, if you consider Shadow a type, then you have three-type Pokémon in XD. I think we need some kind of article on Shadown type, even if it doesn't include all that information. I'll make it tomorrow during lunch break if nobody esle wants to. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 03:05, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
:No, they're ???-type. There is no Shadow type. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:16, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
::I know that there's no 'Shadow' type, but the type of XD's Shadow Moves is NOT ???. In the space for a colored type bar, there's only a ------- (as opposed to Colloseum, which DID have the ??? bar). Moreover, obviously it is not ??? because it has type advantage and resistance applied. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 14:20, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Moves in XD are ???-type too, and they are split in physical or special category depending on if they do or not contact on the target. ???-type is only appliable to moves and not to Pokémon. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 20:31, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
::::I'll load up Colosseum then XD and report back. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 20:33, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::Shadow moves are type-less. Not ??? Type, but no type at all. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]])
::::::Yeah, they are typeless, but doesn't this count as ???-type anyways? '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 20:50, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
In essence, that's what I said. I was correct: they have "-------" for a type. However, there's no way it can be ??? type becuse ??? type ''does not'' have super effective or not very effective. I called it 'Shadow' type in the same way [[-----]] is called DPBox. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 02:41, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

== Move to ??? (type) ==

Hi. Um, this article is referred to in the games (as well as any other place) as ???. So I was thinking; should I move this to ??? (type)? [[User:Noname4you|Nonam]][[User talk:Noname4you|e4you]] 02:19, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
:Well being that we're getting issues with question marks now where they weren't before, I'm gonna say hold the freaking crap off on this if we do decide to for a '''''really long while'''''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:30, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
::What about Unknown (type) to fit in with the others?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 17:38, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

== eggs ==

How can an eg be a ??? type. It is is considered as such because you don't know what pokemon its going to be. The ???-type Arceus is different. {{unsigned|Hyurnat4}}
:Because ''technically'' the contents of the egg are unknown. So, the type that the Pokémon inside will be is also unknown... Even though most players know what will be inside their Pokémon Eggs. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 04:45, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

== Statistical averages ==

OK, since we've established that Eggs are ???-type, and Arceus and Smeargle have the capability to become ???-type, might this warrant a statistical averages section? Perhaps, sans Arceus, since there is no legal way to get its type changed to ???? And I know I read somewhere that Eggs have base stats of 10 across the board, so that technically would count. Just gotta dig up where I found that... [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 20:40, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

== Uh ==

...I'm pretty sure question marks in titles still don't agree with the inner workings of the wiki, considering I can still see pages being moved for that reason. Is this working alright, or should it be moved back to "Unknown type"? ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 01:16, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

:They appear to be working fine on my end. My guess is that {{u|Archaic}} wasn't aware that question marks in titles actually ''were'' working, singled out [[Which One ~ Is It?]] (the newest Japanese ending theme of the anime), and moved the article to a location without the question mark, citing problems which appear to not exist. Don't know how these signals are getting crossed...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:32, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
::It's the archives that screws up the question marks. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:09, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

== Arceus and HG/SS ==

We know that in D/P/Pt, Arceus has a ???-type sprite. But does it have one in HG/SS? [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 15:12, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
:yes. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 10:25, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

== Arceus testing ==

If Arceus's base type is hacked to be ??? instead of Normal, does it show the ???-type sprite? [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 15:34, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Some people have already used a game-altering device so that when Arceus is sent out it is the ??? type. The sprite indeed changes, however I've only seen videos of Arceus changing into his ??? form and then back into his Normal form because there is no ??? plate. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 15:56, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

== Phys/Spec split ==

"Because they're not programmed to be either physical or special moves, even with a base power of 255 (the highest that the game allows), the move will do almost no damage."

Is this true for 4th gen games? Because, logically, it shouldn't be. (Unless Gamefreak used some really cheap work-around, which is unnecessary as far as I know.) --[[User:~Poke~|~Poke~]] 05:59, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

== Struggle? ==

Struggle has no offensive properties. Could it be '???' type? What is it listed as in the game's coding?
:Normal --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 09:20, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

== Shadow Sky weather ball. ==

{{m|Weather Ball}} during {{m|Shadow Sky}} is a proper ??? move in XD. Should be added to the article. --[[User:Deuxhero|Deuxhero]] 16:09, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:I think it is really Shadow-type rather than ???-type. I don't have XD, so I can't test it. Apparently, Shadow moves are super effective against non-Shadow Pokémon and not very effective against Shadow Pokémon. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:15, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:: I do and just played the fight where it is seen. It is neutral against everything. --[[User:Deuxhero|Deuxhero]] 19:05, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== Smeargle? ==

As mentioned [[Talk:??? (type)#Arceus and Roost|earlier in the article]] Smeargle can apparently be ??? type by doing somethings. If this is true shouldn't Smeargle be added to added to the article? Also I think it raises the question of what happens when Smeargle does the same thing in Gen V. —[[User:Tasty Salamanders|Tasty Salamanders]] 08:14, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:That was on there before, but it got removed. I'll put it back on. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:07, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:According to this: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79340 it has been confirmed that using Roost on a Pure-Flying now changes to Normal. [[User:Tasty Salamanders|Tasty Salamanders]] 11:06, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== ??? type in bulbapedia ==
Shouldn't it be noted that ??? type is used in templates in bulbapedia where there is no data about actual type of something or as default type? Links in this templates are lead here, I believe it should be explained why.--[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 07:56, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
:It should just be the default on templates, and its color is often used for glitches. However, it shouldn't be appearing on mainspace pages where the type is not actually known. I don't know how to explain it anymore than that. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:03, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Hidden Power ==

Is hidden power Normal-type or ???-type?

Talk:Dive (move)

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== Locations ==
A list of the "specific areas" should be included.--[[User:Dual|Dual]] 16:32, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

== Why Ludicolo? ==

Just wondering. :/ Cause it says something about Ludicolo in the Gen IV box. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 17:48, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
:I think that means the fact Dive isn't an HM anymore hurts Ludicolo's usefulness in the metagame, but it's still a stupid thing to say in the first place. Bulbapedia may be a place for a gross amount of game data, but not a strategy guide.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 23:09, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

== Dive HM ==
I was wondering... is there an item offset for the Dive HM in FRLG? Is it actually an HM, just with no uses, or is it a regular move?
:It's only a move and the only way to obtain it is trading a Pokémon to [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire|R/S]]/[[Pokémon Emerald|E]], teach it Dive and then send it back. In [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|FRLG]] Dive is interpreted as any other non-HM move; it means that can be forgotten normally without having to go to the Move Deleter and it has no Field-Effect as there aren't underwater spots in Kanto nor the Sevii Islands. (Could it be that you can migrate Pokémon knowing Dive from FRLG to D/P?) '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 16:54, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::Dive's an item in FRLG, you'd just have to hack it to get it. Far as I know it's treated like an HM, too. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:54, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

== Countering? ==
I merely forgot how to counter a Pokémon that uses Dive!(Usually a 2-turn moves can be countered, example: [[Fly]] with [[Sky Uppercut]] & [[Thunder]].) Since this move is no more popular in the IV Generation, I rarely found an opponent using this move, until yesterday in the [[Battle Arcade]].. Help?- ''unsigned comment from {{u|W1l50n1404}} ([[User talk:W1l50n1404|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/W1l50n1404|contribs]]) ''
::Remember to sign your comments, please. And it's {{m|Surf}}.--'''Dark''' [[Mask of Ice|'''ICE''']] (User:Cold)([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 14:01, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
== Pokémon mystery dungeon? ==
Alright, dive cannot be gained by a TM/HM in generation IV, right? Well, on my Pokémon mystery dungeon explorers of sky game I have found some dive TMs. So whats with that? Are move tutor moves avalible for TM in the Pokémon mystery dungeon series due to a lack of move tutors (Although it would make more sense to open a shop in Pokémon square/treasure town where move tutor moves could be taught for some Poké.)?

== HM6 is Dive ==

Dive returns as a HM in Black and White[[User:Tempest370|Tempest370]] 10:49, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== Arceus ==
It says on here Arceus is a Fighting type, but it's normally a ??? type, right? [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 21:53, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:No, it's normally a Normal type. However, when you attach it with certain plates, then it becomes a different type altogether. As a result, we've made it such that the type for Arceus changes after a certain amount of time. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:55, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Dive in the anime ==

I've always pictured that if there was no water and a Pokémon was commanded to use Dive that they would jump up into the air and "dive" into the opponent, maybe they'd also get surrounded by water? Is that worth mentioning in the trivia? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:22, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
: Not until it's actually used. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:50, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

== Arceus ==

It says that arceus is a ground type. That is not true. Arceus is an anytype guy-thing.

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Shaymin (Pokémon)

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'''Shaymin''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''シェイミ''' ''Shaymin'') is a {{type2|Grass}} [[legendary Pokémon]].

It was not officially revealed until February of 2008, when it was listed as a star of ''[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''. In early June of the same year, its Sky Forme was revealed, which takes on the {{type2|Flying}} as a secondary type.

It is not known to evolve into or from another Pokémon.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Shaymin is a small, hedgehog-like creature. Its body is pure white. Its back is covered with green fur and has a pink flower on each side of its head. Its legs are short and its underside is plump. Shaymin is the smallest legendary Pokémon to date. According to the Pokédex height of 0'08", it is also among the smallest Pokémon in existence, with its comrades being {{p|Diglett}}, {{p|Natu}}, {{p|Azurill}}, {{p|Budew}}, {{p|Burmy}}, and {{p|Chingling}}.
[[Image:Shaymin revert.png|right|thumb|{{an|Shaymin}} reverting back at night and in the cold]]
As first revealed by Japan's [[CoroCoro]] Magazine, Shaymin has [[Form differences#Shaymin|two forms]]. The first (Land Forme) is the original form seen in {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}. The second is the Sky Forme which debuted in ''[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''. Shaymin will change into Sky Forme and back if it touches a {{OBP|Gracidea|flower}}. Shaymin can't be in this form at night or if it has {{DL|Status ailment#Freeze|contact with ice}}. Shaymin's Sky Forme has a reindeer-like appearance. It has a small, slender body. The fur on its back appears to have shifted into a mohawk; it has a red flower petal on the right side of its neck, looking like a scarf or cape, and flat antler-like ears. It has a small ruff on the front of its neck and a stumpy tail.

====Gender differences====
Shaymin is a genderless species.

====Special abilities====
Shaymin have the ability to instantly purify any ruined land of all pollutants in the air and transform it into a lush field of flowers. They can take in polluted air, purify it inside their bodies, break it down into water and light, and release the purified substance in a violent, explosive burst. This ability is known as {{m|Seed Flare}}, their [[signature move]]. Its power varies on the type of pollution is absorbed. Shaymin can also communicate with telepathy and sense the gratitude of others.
[[Image:Shaymin camouflage.png|left|thumb|200xp|Shaymin curled up]]

===Behavior===
Shaymin have a habitual trait called "Flower Bearing". Each season, Shaymin gather in a flower field somewhere and migrate from there. This behavior is called Flower Carrying because a new field of flowers grow where they land. Shaymin are also attracted to areas where there is a lot of gratitude. Their personalities are almost opposite with each form — Land Forme is shy and easily scared, while Sky Forme is courageous and playful.

===Habitat===
Shaymin live in fields of flowers. Since a Shaymin camouflages by curling itself up, it can easily escape people's notice, similar to {{p|Geodude}} on rocky terrain.
[[Image:Shaymin anime.png|right|thumb|200xp|Shaymin in the anime]]
===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
{{an|Shaymin}} made its debut in the 11th [[Pokémon movie]], ''[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''.
==In the manga==
Shaymin made its debut in the manga adaption of the 11th [[Pokémon movie]], ''{{ma|Giratina and the Sky Warrior}}''.
==In the TCG==
{{main|Shaymin (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===

{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19={{Dex
|type=grass
|type2=flying
|gen=4
|diamonddex=It lives in flower patches and avoids detection by curling up to look like a flowering plant.
|pearldex=It can dissolve toxins in the air to instantly transform ruined land into a lush field of flowers.
|platinumdex=The flowers all over its body burst into bloom if it is lovingly hugged and senses gratitude.
}}|{{Dex
|type=grass
|gen=4
|diamonddex=It lives in flower patches and avoids detection by curling up to look like a flowering plant.
|pearldex=It can dissolve toxins in the air to instantly transform ruined land into a lush field of flowers.
|platinumdex=The flowers all over its body burst into bloom if it is lovingly hugged and senses gratitude.
}}}}

===Game locations===
{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19={{Availability
|type=grass
|type2=flying
|gen=4
|dprarity=Event
|dparea=[[Flower Paradise]] (requires [[Oak's Letter]])
|ptrarity=Event
|ptarea=[[Flower Paradise]] (requires [[Oak's Letter]])}}|{{Availability
|type=grass
|gen=4
|dprarity=Event
|dparea=[[Flower Paradise]] (requires [[Oak's Letter]])
|ptrarity=Event
|ptarea=[[Flower Paradise]] (requires [[Oak's Letter]])
}}}}

====In side games====
{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19={{SidegameAvail
|type=Grass
|type2=flying
|ranger2=[[Pueltown]] (during an Extra Mission)
}}|{{SidegameAvail
|type=Grass
|ranger2=[[Pueltown]] (during an Extra Mission)
}}}}

====In events====
{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19={{eventAvail/h|type=grass|type2=flying}}|{{eventAvail/h|type=grass}}}}
{{eventAvail|Movie Shaymin|Movie|Japan|2008|50}}
{{eventAvail|TRU Shaymin|Toys "R" Us|United States|2009|50}}
{{eventAvail|List of Nintendo event Pokémon in 2009#UK GAME Shaymin|GAME|United Kingdom|2009|50}}
|}

{| width="100%" class="collapsible"
|
===Base stats===
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=expandable|collapsible}}"
|
====Land Forme====
|-
|
{{BaseStats|
type=grass|
HP= 100 |
Attack= 100 |
Defense=100 |
SpAtk= 100 |
SpDef= 100 |
Speed= 100 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
====Sky Forme====
|-
|
{{BaseStats|
type=grass|
type2=flying|
HP= 100 |
Attack=103 |
Defense=75 |
SpAtk= 120 |
SpDef= 75 |
Speed= 127 }}
|}

{| width="100%" class="collapsible"
|
===Type effectiveness===
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=expandable|collapsible}}"
|
====Land Forme====
|-
|
{{DP Type effectiveness|
type1=grass|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 200 |
Poison= 200 |
Ground= 50 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 200 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric= 50 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}

|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
====Sky Forme====
|-
|
{{DP Type effectiveness|
type1=grass|
type2=flying|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting= 50 |
Flying= 200 |
Poison= 200 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 200 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 25 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 400 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |
notes=yes|
flying=yes|
newground=½}}
|}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
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|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=expandable|collapsible}}"
|
=====Land Forme=====
|-
|
{{movelist|grass|grass|4|4|grass}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Defense Curl|Normal|Status|—|—|40|Cute|2|||DP}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Growth|Normal|Status|—|—|40|Beauty|1|||Pt}}
{{mlentry4|10|Magical Leaf|Grass|Special|60|—|20|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|19|Leech Seed|Grass|Status|—|90|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|28|Synthesis|Grass|Status|—|—|5|Smart|0||}}
{{mlentry4|37|Sweet Scent|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|46|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|55|Worry Seed|Grass|Status|—|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|64|Aromatherapy|Grass|Status|—|—|5|Smart|0||}}
{{mlentry4|73|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|82|GrassWhistle|Grass|Status|—|55|15|Smart|2|||DP}}
{{mlentry4|82|Sweet Kiss|Normal|Status|—|75|10|Cute|2|||Pt}}
{{mlentry4|91|Lucky Chant|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Cute|2|||DP}}
{{mlentry4|91|Healing Wish|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0|||Pt}}
{{mlentry4|100|Seed Flare|Grass|Special|120|85|5|Cool|2||'''}}
{{movelist/note|4|grass}}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
=====Sky Forme=====
|-
|
{{movelist|grass|flying|4|4|flying}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Growth|Normal|Status|—|—|40|Beauty|1}}
{{mlentry4|10|Magical Leaf|Grass|Special|60|—|20|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|19|Leech Seed|Grass|Status|—|90|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|28|Quick Attack|Normal|Physical|40|100|30|Cool|2||}}
{{mlentry4|37|Sweet Scent|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|46|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|55|Worry Seed|Grass|Status|—|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|64|Air Slash|Flying|Special|75|95|20|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|73|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|82|Sweet Kiss|Normal|Status|—|75|10|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|91|Leaf Storm|Grass|Special|140|90|5|Cute|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|100|Seed Flare|Grass|Special|120|85|5|Cool|2||'''}}
{{movelist/note|4|grass|flying}}
|}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|grass|{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=flying|grass}}|4|4|Shaymin}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM09]]|Bullet Seed|Grass|Physical|10|100|30|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM19]]|Giga Drain|Grass|Special|60|100|10|Smart|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM20]]|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM22]]|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10|Cool|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM29]]|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM53]]|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM70]]|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM75]]|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM77]]|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM86]]|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{movelist/note|4|grass|{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=flying|grass}}}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{| width="100%" class="collapsible"
|
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=expandable|collapsible}}"
|
=====Land Forme=====
|-
|
{{tutor|grass|grass|4a|4|Shaymin}}
{{mtentry4a|Earth Power|Ground|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Endeavor|Normal|Physical|—|100|5|Tough|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Last Resort|Normal|Physical|130|100|5|Cute|0|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Seed Bomb|Grass|Physical|80|100|15|Smart|3||'''|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cute|3|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Synthesis|Grass|Status|—|—|5|Smart|0|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4a|grass|flying}}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
=====Sky Forme=====
|-
|
{{tutor|Grass|Flying|4a|4|Shaymin}}
{{mtentry4a|Air Cutter|Flying|Special|55|95|25|Cool|3||'''|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Last Resort|Normal|Physical|130|100|5|Cute|0|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|60|100|5|Smart|0|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Seed Bomb|Grass|Physical|80|100|15|Smart|3||'''|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cute|3|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Synthesis|Grass|Status|—|—|5|Smart|0|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4a|grass|flying}}
|}

====By {{pkmn2|event}}s====
{| width="100%" class="collapsible"
|
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=expandable|collapsible}}"
|
=====Land Forme=====
|-
|
{{movelistspecial|grass|grass|4|4|grass}}
{{mlentry4special|[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior|11th]] [[List of Nintendo event Pokémon in 2008#Movie Shaymin|movie]] and [[List of Nintendo event Pokémon in 2009#Toys "R" Us Shaymin|Toys "R" Us events]]|Seed Flare|Grass|Special|120|85|5|Cool|2||'''|50}}
{{mlentry4special|11th movie and Toys "R" Us events|Aromatherapy|Grass|Status|—|—|5|Smart|0|||50}}
{{mlentry4special|11th movie and Toys "R" Us events|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10|Beauty|2||'''|50}}
{{movelist/note|4|grass|grass}}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
=====Sky Forme=====
|-
|
There have been no events where a Sky Forme Shaymin has been distributed.
|}

===Side game data===
{{Side game|
type=grass |
ndex=492 |
Ranger2=yes|
typeG2=Grass|
typeA2=Grass|
field2=None|
field2power=-|
browser2=It protects itself by launching leaves. It shoots exploding seeds to attack. |
}}

===Evolution===

{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19={{evobox/0formes2|492|Shaymin|Land Forme|Nighttime|1|Grass||492S|Sky Forme|Gracidea|2|Grass|Flying|Flying}}|{{evobox/0formes2|492|Shaymin|Land Forme|Nighttime|1|Grass||492S|Sky Forme|Gracidea|2|Grass|Flying}}}}


===Sprites===
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|type=grass
|type2=flying
|gen=4
|gender=2formesnew
|ndex=492
|name=Shaymin
|forme1=S
}}|{{Sprite
|type=grass
|gen=4
|gender=2formesnew
|ndex=492
|name=Shaymin
|forme1=S
}}}}

==Trivia==
* Shaymin ties with {{p|Mew}} and {{p|Celebi}} for the highest [[catch rate]] among all [[legendary Pokémon]].
* Like {{p|Darkrai}}, despite being an event-exclusive legendary Pokémon, both the [[Surf glitch]] and [[tweaking]] are able to allow the player to access the [[Flower Paradise]] without the event having been activated.
** This has been rectified in {{game|Platinum}}, as neither Pokémon will appear without the event, even if the player manages to access their area.
* Land Forme Shaymin is the first pure Grass-type legendary Pokémon.
* Although Shaymin is a legendary Pokémon, normal wild Pokémon battle music plays while battling it. It shares this with {{p|Cresselia}}, {{p|Latias}}, and {{p|Latios}}.
* Shaymin is implied to be behind the creation of [[Floaroma Town]], as one person notes it was a barren wasteland until one day flowers mysteriously covered it all. Additionally, the woman who gives the {{player}} a [[Gracidea (flower)|Gracidea]] flower can be found in Floaroma Town.
* [[Marley]] makes brief references to Shaymin in {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}} if spoken with during the player's travel with her in {{si|Victory Road}}. She wants to reach the smooth rock on {{rt|224}}. If a Shaymin is in the player's party, she will take notice.
* Shaymin seems to appear only when someone gives thanks for a significant blessing in their life. A girl in [[Floaroma Town]] states that the flowers the town is famous for appeared after someone gave thanks for nature's blessings. With [[Oak's Letter]], Shaymin will lead the player to [[Flower Paradise]] after they give thanks for their Pokémon journey at the white rock on {{rt|224}}.
* Unlike most [[legendary Pokémon]], Shaymin needs only 1,059,860 [[experience|Exp.]] to get to level 100, whereas others need 1,250,000. It shares this trait with {{p|Mew}} and {{p|Celebi}}.
* Shaymin's Sky Forme has a different [[cry]] than its Land Forme, making Shaymin the first Pokémon to have different cries for different forms, and the first Pokémon to change its cry since {{p|Pikachu}} in {{game|Yellow}}.
* Shaymin is one of two legendary Pokémon capable of using the [[F.E.A.R.]] strategy (the other is {{p|Mew}}).
* With the exception of {{p|Arceus}}, Shaymin is the last {{type2|Grass}} in [[National Pokédex]] order. In its Sky Forme, it is the last {{type2|Flying}} and the last dual-type Pokémon.
* In Sky Forme, Shaymin is the only legendary Flying-type Pokémon weak to Flying-type attacks.
* Shaymin is tied with {{p|Celebi}} for highest [[base stat total]] of all {{type2|Grass}} Pokémon.

===Origin===
Shaymin is based on a {{wp|hedgehog}}. Its white body and the grass-like fur on its back makes it somewhat resemble a {{wp|Chia Pet}}. Its Sky Forme shares most of its traits with a young terrier, but has a few features of a {{wp|reindeer}}.

====Name origin====
Its name is possibly a combination of 謝 ''sha'' (thanks/gratitude) or ジェイド ''jeido'' (jade), which is one of Shaymin's most dominant colors, and 蝟 ''harinezu'''mi''''' (hedgehog). Also, shaman can be pronounced like Shaymin, so it may be like a mythical shaman. In addition, the name Shaymin may be a corruption of the Hebrew word Shamayim, which means "sky" and is the name of the first heaven in Jewish mysticism. This correlates directly with Shaymin's Sky Forme.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Shaymin
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Shaymin
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 쉐이미 ''Sheimi''
*[[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese]]: 潔咪 ''Jiémī''

==Related articles==
* [[Shaymin (movie 11)]]

===On Bulbanews===
*{{n|Shaymin to be distributed in Europe}}
*{{n|Official European sites update with Shaymin information}}

===External links===
* [http://fan.akuseru.org/hana Hana], the fanlisting for Shaymin at {{wp|The Fanlistings Network}}

==Notes==
{{event Pokémon}}
{{Legendary Pokémon}}
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{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Sinnoh Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Promotion-only Pokémon]]
[[Category:Pokémon with different forms]]
[[Category:F.E.A.R.-compatible Pokémon]]

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[[Image:Ash's Pokedex.png|right|thumb|Ash's Pokédex in Sinnoh]]
A '''Pokédex''' (Japanese: '''ポケモン{{tt|図鑑|ずかん}}''' ''illustrated Pokémon encyclopedia'') is an invaluable tool to a {{pkmn|Trainer}} in the [[Pokémon world]]. It gives information about all [[Pokémon]] in the world that are contained in its database. In the {{pkmn|games}}, it lists the number of Pokémon seen and {{pkmn2|caught}}. In the {{pkmn|anime}}, simply pointing it at a target Pokémon will give someone the Pokédex entry for that Pokémon. In both the anime and [[Pokémon Special]], the Pokédex also confers all the information shown by the interface in the games; that is, a Pokédex can display a Pokémon's [[stat]]s, [[level]], and [[move]]s. Another function of the Pokédex is that it is immune to most forms of outside interference from stimuli such as water, fire or electricity, as seen in [[EP061|''The Misty Mermaid'']], in the [[Generation III]] games where the player can go [[Underwater|under water]], and in [[EP001|Pokémon, I Choose You!]]. Pokédexes in the games, anime, and manga are not given to all trainers, but given to trainers of exceptional potential and skill. Just the same, anime Pokédexes take the place of the {{ga|trainer card}} in that they store the identification information of their owner. In the anime, {{Ash}} and {{Gary}} both received their Pokédexes from [[Prof. Oak]], much like their game counterparts {{ga|Red}} and {{ga|Blue}}. Ash was notorious for using his Pokédex early in his journey in situations where he had no idea what was going on, and was just as notorious for always being behind Gary in Pokédex entries.

In the Pokémon continuity, the Pokédex was invented by Professor Oak. When a young [[Sam|"Sammy"]] Oak was accidentally warped to a future of his own time, {{Ash}} explains to him how the Pokédex works, unknowingly giving him an idea.

In ''[[EP066|The Evolution Solution]]'' it was mentioned that the Pokédex entries in Ash's Pokédex were written by [[Professor Westwood V]] of the [[Seafoam Islands]].

Pokédex entries are typically only two- or three-sentence bits of information about the Pokémon referred to. In some events it gives background information on the habitat or activities of this Pokémon in the wild; at other times it gives other bits of information on the Pokémon's history or anatomy. A typical entry would be one of {{p|Bulbasaur}}, which states:

"''A strange seed was planted on its back at birth. The plant sprouts and grows with this Pokémon.''"

To date, there have been five different numbering systems used: the [[National Pokédex]], and various [[Regional Pokédex]]es.
==Kanto (Generation I)==
[[Image:Generation_I_Pokedex.png|frame|right|The [[Generation I|first]]-generation Pokédex]]
The first version of the Pokédex, model number HANDY505, recorded data on the first 151 Pokémon, focusing on Pokémon mostly native to [[Kanto]]. It listed them in [[List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number|number sequence]], and it recorded data on height, weight, number, [[species]], cry, and nesting area. However, in {{2v2|Red|Blue}}, Pokémon only found in [[Cerulean Cave]] and Pokémon found only by fishing would be listed as "Area Unknown". In {{game|Yellow}}, the option to print Pokédex entries using the [[Game Boy Printer]] was added.

[[Image:RBYPokedex.png|thumb|left|The main interface of the first Pokédex model]]

In the anime, the Pokédex model's program is referred to as Dexter, as well as the programs for most models of the Pokédex. When [[Misty]] got {{TP|Misty|Togepi}}, Professor Oak updated this model with new software that included data on a handful of [[Johto]] Pokémon, and its voice gets redone (via a different reverb effect). Its Japanese voice actor is 三木眞一郎 ''[[Shin'ichirō Miki]]'' and its English voice actor is [[Eric Stuart]]. Internationally, it is played by [[Wellington Lima]] in the Brazilian dub. It also has the ability to identify a Pokémon's moveset, as shown when it identified all of the known moves that Misty's Psyduck can learn in ''[[EP032|The Ninja Pokémon Showdown!]]''.

The numbering of Pokémon in this generation is the same as those in the National Pokédex. Therefore, see the first 151 Pokémon of [[List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number]].
===Pokédex entries===
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{{Animedexbody|EP002|Dexter (Purpose)|Ash's Pokédex|I'm Dexter, a [[Pokédex]] programmed by [[Professor Oak]] for [[Pokémon Trainer]] {{Ash|Ash Ketchum}} of the town of [[Pallet Town|Pallet]]. My function is to provide Ash with information and advice regarding Pokémon and their training. If lost or stolen, I cannot be replaced.}}
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==Johto==
[[Image:Johto_Pokedex.png|frame|right|The [[Generation II|second]]-generation Pokédex]]
[[Image:JohtoDex.png|thumb|left|Johto's Pokédex, as seen in {{game|Gold and Silver|s|Pokémon Gold}}]]
The second Pokédex, model HANDY808, had many improvements. Data on 251 species of Pokémon could be recorded. Pokémon could be listed in the Kanto (or National) order (referred to as the "Old Pokédex"), a [[List of Pokémon by Johto Dex number|new order]] focusing on Johto (referred to as the "New Pokédex"), or [[List of Pokémon by name|alphabetically by name]]. It also included an [[Unown Dex]] that can be unlocked by catching three different forms of {{p|Unown}}. A new search option allowed users to find specific Pokémon by [[type]]. Entries were expanded to include a Pokémon's [[footprint]] (if it had feet). Also, the design of this Pokédex is markedly similar to that of Nintendo's [[Game Boy]], Game Boy Pocket, and [[Game Boy Color]].

In the anime, its Japanese voice actor is 三木眞一郎 ''[[Shin'ichirō Miki]]'' and its English voice actor is [[Eric Stuart]].

For the numbering list introduced in this version of the Pokédex, see [[List of Pokémon by Johto Pokédex number]].
 
==Hoenn==
[[Image:Pokedex Hoenn Region.png|frame|right|The [[Hoenn]] region's Pokédex]]
The third Pokédex could record data on [[List of Pokémon by Hoenn Dex number|202 species of Pokémon]] native to the [[Hoenn]] region. An upgrade called the [[National Pokédex]] was unlocked if a trade with [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|Kanto]] was made in {{2v2|Ruby|Sapphire}}, or if the [[Elite Four]] were defeated in {{v2|Emerald}}, which would allow 386 species to be recorded. Pokémon could also be listed by [[List of Pokémon by weight|weight]] and [[List of Pokémon by height|size]]. The search option was expanded to include the first letter of a name, as well as [[List of Pokémon by color|color]] of the Pokémon. The most interesting addition was size charts that compared [[player character|a pre-teen child]] to individual Pokémon in terms of height. This allowed Trainers to get a better idea of how large individual Pokémon were, which often conflicted with depictions in the anime. The print option was removed, however, as no Game Boy Printer was made for the Game Boy Advance.
[[Image:PokedexHoennView.png|thumb|left|Viewing the Hoenn Pokédex in the {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s|Pokémon Sapphire}}]]

In the anime, this Pokédex model's program is referred to as Dextette instead of Dexter, and it has a female voice to match. Its Japanese voice actress is 林原めぐみ ''[[Megumi Hayashibara]]'' and its English voice actress is [[Rachael Lillis]].

The Hoenn region Pokédex is markedly similar to the [[Game Boy Advance]], the console most of the [[Generation III]] games were played on.

For the numbering list introduced in this version of the Pokédex, see [[List of Pokémon by Hoenn Pokédex number]].
 

==Kanto (Generation III)==
[[Image:Pokedex_FRLG.png|thumb|160px|right|[[Kanto]] region's Pokédex]]
The fourth Pokédex, model HANDY909, could record data on 151 species of Pokémon native to the Kanto region. An upgrade called the National Dex was unlocked if the Elite Four were defeated and the player had caught 60 different Pokémon, which would allow 386 species to be recorded. In addition to the improvements made in the Hoenn version, Pokémon were all organized into [[List of Pokémon by habitat|habitat categories]], where similar Pokémon were typically listed together on the same pages (such as {{p|Jynx}} and {{p|Mr. Mime}}, for instance), and Pokémon who are [[List of Pokémon with cross-generational evolutions|cross-generation evolutions]] are also displayed next to each other, such as {{p|Onix}} and {{p|Steelix}}. Nest display was also expanded to include the [[Sevii Islands]]. This Pokédex also has a toy model, which has Pokémon up to Generation III.
[[Image:FRLGdex.png|thumb|left|{{p|Pidgey}}'s entry in {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s|Pokémon FireRed}}]]
In the anime, this model comes in both red and yellow. Its Japanese voice actor is 三木眞一郎 ''[[Shin'ichirō Miki]]'' and its English voice actors are [[Eric Stuart]] ([[4Kids Entertainment|4Kids]]) and [[Bill Rogers]] ([[Pokémon USA]]). Internationally, it is played by [[Wellington Lima]] in the Brazilian dub.

The Generation III Kanto Pokédex is markedly similar to the [[Game Boy Advance SP]], an upgraded version of the Game Boy Advance that was released the year before [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions]] were released in Japan.

For the regional Pokédex list, see the first 151 entries of [[List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number]].
 
==Sinnoh==
[[File:Pokedex_Sinnoh_Region.jpg|thumb|170px|right|[[Sinnoh]] region's Pokédex]]
The fifth Pokédex, model HANDY910is, can naturally record data on the 151 Pokémon native to [[Sinnoh]], with the National Dex upgrade allowing for the 493 Pokémon available to players of {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}} to be recorded. Strangely, some of the Pokémon first encountered in [[Generation IV]] are not in the [[List of Pokémon by Sinnoh Dex number|Sinnoh Dex order]], such as the two new evolutions of {{p|Eevee}}. Nest display includes time of day as part of its functions now.

In the anime and [[Pokémon Special]] manga, it seems that the color of the Pokédex casing is customizable. {{an|Dawn}} has a pink one, {{Ash}} and {{Special|Platinum}} have a red one, {{Special|Diamond}} has a blue one, {{Special|Pearl}} has an orange one and [[Paul]] has a dark blue one. The anime version lacks the dial on the side. This Pokédex also has a female voice. Its Japanese voice actresses are 川上とも子 ''[[Tomoko Kawakami]]'' and ''[[Satsuki Yukino]]'' and its English voice actress is [[Michele Knotz]].
[[File:Ash's dex.png|Pokédex scanning [[Dawn's Piplup]]|thumb|left]]
[[File:Platinum National Pokédex.png|thumb|right|150px|{{p|Giratina}} in the Platinum National Pokédex]]
Its appearance is similar to that of the [[Nintendo DS]], and it may have a touchscreen as well. The placement of buttons and other features suggest it is based on its second version, the [[Nintendo DS Lite]].

For the numbering list introduced in this version of the Pokédex, see [[List of Pokémon by Sinnoh Pokédex number]].

This Pokédex, as shown in the anime by [[Paul]], is able to scan a Poké Ball to see what moves the Pokémon inside it can use.

In the anime, it was also shown by {{an|Dawn}} to be able to identify moves like the Generation I Pokédex, as was the case with [[Dawn's Ambipom|Dawn's Aipom]]'s {{m|Double Hit}}.
===Platinum===
The sixth Pokédex, an expansion on the fifth, can naturally record data on 210 Pokémon, a majority native to Sinnoh, with the National Pokédex upgrade that allows for the recording of data on the 493 Pokémon known at this time.

This Pokédex, which is available to players of {{v2|Platinum}}, works similar to the ones in {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}.
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==Johto (Generation IV)==
[[File:PokéDex HGSS m.png|thumb|left|[[Johto]] region's Pokédex for males]]
[[File:HGSSpokedex.png|thumb|right|{{p|Mareep}} in the Johto Pokédex]]
[[File:PokéDex HGSS f.png|thumb|left|[[Johto]] region's Pokédex for females]]
The seventh Pokédex, like the fourth, has been given a redesign as the games return to an old region. While it is similar to the original Johto Pokédex when closed, there are many new features, such as a touch screen interface. In addition, the actual regional Pokédex numbers of the Pokémon are shown, instead of the National numbers when in regional mode. The listing also appears in a matrix style. This Pokédex can come in two colors: red for males, and pink for females.

Following the tradition for Pokédexes being based on recent hand-held Nintendo game consoles in real life, this Pokédex resembles the [[Nintendo DSi]].

For the regional Pokédex list, which is the same as the previous design used for Johto, see [[List of Pokémon by Johto Pokédex number]].
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==In the TCG==
This listing is of cards mentioning or featuring the Pokédex in the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]]. The Hoenn region's model did not receive a TCG card, and the Generation I and Generation II Pokédexes, which featured model numbers on the Japanese card, did not show these model numbers on the English card.
{| {{bluetable}}
|- style="background: #DDDDFF;"
!Name
!Type
!Rarity
!Set
!Set no.
|-
| rowspan=2 | {{TCG ID|Base Set|Pokédex|87}} || rowspan=2 | T || rowspan=2 | {{rar|Uncommon}} || {{TCG|Base Set}} || 87/102
|-
| {{TCG|Base Set 2}} || 115/130
|-
| rowspan=2 | {{TCG ID|Neo Genesis|New Pokédex|95}} || rowspan=2 | T || rowspan=1 | {{rar|Uncommon}} || {{TCG|Neo Genesis}} || 95/111
|-
| {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Pokémon Web}} || 16/48
|-
| {{TCG ID|EX FireRed & LeafGreen|PokéDex HANDY909|96}} || T || {{rar|Uncommon}} || {{TCG|EX FireRed & LeafGreen}} || 96/112
|-
| rowspan=2 | {{TCG ID|Diamond & Pearl|Pokédex HANDY910is|111}} || rowspan=2 | T || rowspan=2 | {{rar|Uncommon}} || {{TCG|Diamond & Pearl}} || 111/130
|-
| {{TCG|Platinum}} || 114/127
|}
==In Pokémon Special==
The Pokédex makes a signal when all three regional Pokédexes are close to each other. Another signal shows that they are being held by the correct owner, as seen in [[PS085]]. More usefully, they can display moves known by a Pokémon, and health that the Pokémon has, in a manner that looks identical to the battle screens in games. A feature included in {{game|Yellow}}, interacting with Pikachu to see its mood, was added to {{special|Red}}'s Pokédex. They can also be used to prevent a Pokémon from evolving. Trainers without a Pokédex have no choice in the matter.
==Trivia==
[[Image:AshPokedex2.PNG|right|thumb|250px|Ash's original Pokédex]]
*For [[DP002]], [[Professor Oak]]'s lecture is about the Pokédex. He writes this [[Pokémon senryū]] about it: こまったら　ひらいてみよう　ポケモンずかん ''Komattara hiraite miyō, Pokémon zukan.'' "When troubled, let's open the Pokédex."
*In [[Pokémon Super Contest]]s, there is a judge, who also serves as the {{wp|MC}}, named Dexter.
*Most of the Pokédexes appear similar to one of Nintendo's handhelds. The Johto Pokédex looks similar to a [[Game Boy Color]], the Hoenn Pokédex appears similar to the [[Game Boy Advance]], the Generation III Kanto Pokédex looks similar to a [[Game Boy Advance SP]], the Sinnoh Pokédex looks like a [[Nintendo DS Lite]], and the Generation IV Johto Pokédex looks like a [[Nintendo DSi]].
*The Pokédex is evidently encased in material that is invulnerable to almost anything within reason. It has been soaked in water and (in the anime) electrocuted and exposed to high-temperature flames, all with no ill effect. It is also voice-sensitive. There are some limitations to its ability; certain circumstances can prevent the Pokédex from accurately identifying its target:
**A Pokédex which has not received a [[National Pokédex|National Mode]] upgrade will not display any information on Pokémon not usually found in its home region, even if those Pokémon have been caught.
**In the anime, a Pokédex also can only identify the Pokémon itself, and not what appears to be where it is, as seen in [[EP020|The Ghost of Maiden’s Peak]] when {{p|Gastly}} uses illusions to scare {{Ash}} and his {{Ashfr|friends}}.
**Similarly, [[Gary]]’s Pokédex failed to identify {{an|Mewtwo}} at the [[Viridian Gym]], displaying only static interference. This may be attributed to the mechanical “focus/leech” battle armor Mewtwo was wearing at the time, or simply the fact that it was a species not yet known to [[Professor Oak]] and [[Professor Westwood V|other]] [[Pokémon researcher]]s who participated in the Pokédex’s development.
*All five of Ash’s Pokédexes have been red, as were the Pokédexes in the games prior to {{2v|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, while other characters have had other colors. May had a yellow one in Kanto, Paul has a dark blue Pokédex and Dawn has a pink Pokédex.
*Pokédex entries in [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|LeafGreen]] are identical to those in {{2v2|Red|Blue}} for the {{cat|Generation I Pokémon}}, while those for [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FireRed]] are identical to those from the original {{2v2|Red|Green}}. Likewise, FireRed's entries for {{cat|Generation II Pokémon}} are identical to the entries found in {{v2|Silver}}, and the same is true of Pokémon LeafGreen and {{v2|Gold}}.
[[Image:Computer pokédex.jpg|Giovanni's computer|210px|thumb|left]]
*The Kanto regional Pokédex and the Sinnoh regional Pokédex ({{v2|Diamond and Pearl|s}}) have 151 members, the smallest of all regional Pokédexes. The largest regional Pokédex is the Johto regional Pokédex, with 251 members.
*In ''[[DP080|The Thief That Keeps On Thieving!]]'', [[Giovanni]]'s computer had a function similar to the Pokédex, scanning for what's inside the Poké Ball.
*The online Pokédex at [http://www.pokemon.com/Pokedex/flash.asp Pokémon.com] uses Pokédex entries from {{game|Diamond}}.
*[[James]] uses cards of Pokémon, rather than a Pokédex, to sometimes identify the Pokémon and the moves they can learn.
*The Pokédex models of [[Generation]]s {{gen|I}} and {{gen|II}} rounded the weights of all Pokémon to full pounds except for {{p|Gastly}} and {{p|Haunter}}, despite the Japanese games' use of tenths of kilograms since the start. From [[Generation III]] onward, all weights have been given to the nearest tenth of a pound.
*The Pokédex lost several buttons with every new model, due to various upgrades: Kanto's first model has twenty-two buttons, Johto’s original model has five, Kanto's second model, Hoenn's, and Sinnoh's only have three, and Johto’s second model apparently has none whatsoever, solely using the touch-screen interface.
*The Pokédex has evolved along with the gaming device of the generation. For example, Generation I's Pokédex was designed after the first game boy, as the Gen. II Pokédex was designed after the [[Game Boy Color]]. Gen. III after [[Game Boy Advance]], and Gen. IV after the [[Nintendo DS]].
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