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Hilbert (game)

2013-09-19T20:49:00Z

SLE aman: I checked, May was the one revealing starters/protagonists, June revealed Reshiram/Zekrom

{{CharInfobox|
color={{black color}} |
corecolor={{black color light}} |
bordercolor={{black color dark}} |
name=Hilbert |
jname=トウヤ |
tmname=Tōya |
text=white |
slogan=no |
image=Black White Hilbert.png |
size=185px |
caption=Art from Black and White |
gender=Male |
colors=yes|
hair=Brown|
eyes=Brown|
hometown=[[Nuvema Town]] |
region=[[Unova]] |
relatives=[[Mom|Mother]] (as player) |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Pokémon Trainer]], [[Player character]] |
game=yes |
generation={{gen|V}} |
games=[[Pokémon Black and White Versions|Black, White]] |
leader=no |
anime=no |
manga=counterpart |
mangacounterpart=[[Monta]], {{adv|Black}}, {{OBP|Touya|MWL}}, {{OBP|Shin|FAT}}, [[Hiro]]|
roundnum=PBW01|
}}
'''Hilbert''' (Japanese: '''トウヤ''' ''Tōya'') is the male [[player character]] in {{game|Black and White|s}}. His female counterpart is {{ga|Hilda}}.

==In the games==
==={{game|Black and White|s}}===
====As the playable character====
Hilbert is a boy who lives in [[Nuvema Town]], as do his childhood friends, [[Cheren]] and [[Bianca]]. If chosen as the player, he will receive a [[starter Pokémon]] and a [[Pokédex]] from [[Professor Juniper]]. After setting off on his [[Pokémon journey]] at the same time as Cheren and Bianca, Hilbert will at some point be asked by [[Fennel]] to do some sort of quest; in return for its completion, Hilbert will receive a [[C-Gear]].

As well as encountering and battling his childhood friends at various points during his journey, Hilbert will also meet a man known as [[N]], who wishes to create separate worlds for humans and Pokémon. In order to achieve his goals, he and Hilbert will battle several times during the course of the game. Hilbert also battles [[Team Plasma]] at various stages of his journey. Ultimately, Hilbert is recognized as a hero by {{p|Reshiram}} or {{p|Zekrom}}, depending on the version.

====As a non-playable character====
If not chosen as the player (that is, {{ga|Hilda|the female character}} was chosen as the player), Hilbert appears as the player's partner in the [[Battle Subway]] when choosing to ride the Multi-Train. Two of the following Pokémon are picked from the corresponding list, depending on what the player wants him to base his team on. If the player chooses "A balance between the two," Hilbert's Pokémon are chosen from either list.

==={{game|Black and White|s|Pokémon Black 2 and White 2|2}}===
In Black 2 and White 2, the protagonist of Black and White was said to be searching for N and has not returned home.

===Pokémon===
{{SubwayPartner}}

==Artwork==
{| style="margin:auto; text-align:center; {{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{black color dark}}; background: #{{black color}};"
|-
|style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{black color dark}}; background: #{{black color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Victini-Liberty Garden Island.png|150px]]
|style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{black color dark}}; background: #{{black color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Battle Subway artwork.png|150px]]
|- style="font-size: 80%; color:#FFF;"
| {{colorlink|Liberty Garden Island|FFF}} artwork with {{color2|FFFFFF|Victini (Pokémon)|Victini}} and {{color2|FFFFFF|Hilda (game)|Hilda}}
| {{colorlink|Battle Subway|FFF}} artwork
|}

===Sprites===
{| style="margin:auto; text-align:center; {{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{black color dark}}; background: #{{black color}};"
|-
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{black color dark}}; background: #{{black color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Spr BW Hilbert.png]]
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{black color dark}}; background: #{{black color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Spr BW Hilbert 2.png]]
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{black color dark}}; background: #{{black color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Spr B2W2 Hilbert.png]]
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{black color dark}}; background: #{{black color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Spr B2W2 Hilbert 2.png]]
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{black color dark}}; background: #{{black color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:BW Hilbert Back.png]]
|- style="font-size: 80%"
| {{color|FFFFFF|Hilbert's sprite from}} {{color2|fff|Pokémon Black and White Versions|Black and White}}
| {{color|FFFFFF|Hilbert}} {{color2|FFFFFF|Wonder Launcher}} {{color|FFFFFF|sprite from}} {{color2|FFFFFF|Pokémon Black and White Versions|Black and White}}
| {{color|FFFFFF|Hilbert's Sprite from}} {{color2|fff|Pokémon Black and White Versions 2|Black 2 and White 2}}
| {{color|FFFFFF|Hilbert's Wonder Launcher sprite from}} {{color2|fff|Pokémon Black and White Versions 2|Black 2 and White 2}}
| {{color|FFFFFF|Hilbert's back sprite from}} {{color2|fff|Pokémon Black and White Versions|Black and White}}
|-

|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{black color dark}}; background: #{{black color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:HilbertChallenge.png]]
|style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{black color dark}}; background: #{{black color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Hilbert Xtransceiver.png]]
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{black color dark}}; background: #{{black color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Hilbert intro.png]]
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{black color dark}}; background: #{{black color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:BW HilbertOD Stand.png]]
|- style="font-size: 80%"

| {{color|fff|Hilbert's VS sprite from}} {{color2|fff|Pokémon Black and White Versions|Black and White}}
| {{color|fff|Hilbert's Xtransceiver sprite from}} {{color2|fff|Pokémon Black and White Versions|Black and White}}
| {{color|fff|Hilbert's intro sprite from}} {{color2|fff|Pokémon Black and White Versions|Black and White}}
| {{color|fff|Hilbert's overworld sprite from}} {{color2|fff|Pokémon Black and White Versions|Black and White}}
|}

==Counterparts==
Hilbert has five counterparts appearing in various {{pkmn|manga}}: [[Monta]] from the [[Be a Master!! Pokémon BW]] manga, {{Adv|Black}} from the [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga, {{OBP|Touya|MWL}} from the [[Pocket Monsters BW: Meetings with the Legends]] manga, {{OBP|Shin|FAT}} from the [[Pocket Monsters BW: The Heroes of Fire and Thunder]] manga and [[Hiro]] from the [[Pocket Monsters B2 W2 ~ A New Legend ~]] manga.

==Trivia==
* Prior to the release of {{2v2|Black|White}}, pre-release media and most fans referred to Hilbert as "Black."
** English demos of Black and White referred to Hilbert as "Blair."
** English pre-release screenshots referred to Hilbert as "Kuro" (the Japanese word for Black).
* From a bird's eye view, Hilbert's hat looks like a [[Poké Ball]].
* Hilbert and {{ga|Hilda}} are the first [[player character]]s in the main series not to have preprogrammed names either by choice or in case one isn't specified.
* In the May 2010 volume of [[CoroCoro]] Comics, it was stated that Hilbert and Hilda are older than previous player characters, but it is not known how much older they are.

==Names==
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{black color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{black color}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Language
! Name
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Origin
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Japanese
| トウヤ ''Tōya''
| From 闘 ''tō'', fight.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| English
| Hilbert
| From the Germanic element ''hild'', battle.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| French
| Ludwig
| Germanic name that can mean "famous warrior".
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| German
| Warren
| Possibly from ''war''.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Italian
| Alcide
| From ''Alcides'', an alternate name for {{wp|Heracles}}.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Spanish
| Lucho
| From ''lucha'', fight.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Korean
| 투지 ''Tuji''
| From 鬪志 ''tuji'', fighting spirit.
|}{{-}}
{{Player characters}}
{{NPC|black|unova=yes}} 
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}

[[Category:Black and White characters]]

[[de:Warren]]
[[es:Lucho (personaje)]]
[[fr:Ludwig]]
[[it:Alcide (gioco)]]
[[zh:鬥也]]

User:SLE aman/fanhax

2010-12-05T17:02:27Z

SLE aman:

{{PokémonPrevNext | type=electric | type2=fire | prev=Genosect | next=Bulbasaur | prevnum=649| nextnum=001}}
{{PokémonInfobox|
jname=ダゲキ |
tmname=Rawr|
size=150px|
art=BW|
species=Flarele Tiger |
typen=2 |
type1=Electric |
type2=Fire |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=- |
ndex=403 |
height-ftin=6'03" |
height-m=1.9 |
weight-lbs=341.7 |
weight-kg=155.0 |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Ground |
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=20 |
evat=2 |
expyield=213 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gendercode=63|
color=Brown |
catchrate=75 |
body=08 |
pokefordex= |
generation=5 |
footnotes=}}

It [[Evolution|evolves]] from something when exposed to an as-of-yet undetermined {{evostone|evolution stone}}.

==Biology==
===Physiology===

===Special abilities===

===Behavior===

===Habitat===

===Diet===

==In the anime==

===Major appearances===

===Minor appearances===

==In the manga==

==In the TCG==

==Game data==

===Pokédex entries===

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=Electric|
type2=Fire|
gen=5 |
bwrarity=Spot|
bwarea=Outside [[Yaguruma Forest]], Outside {{un|Victory Road}}, [[Route]]s {{rtn|10|Unova}}, {{rtn|15|Unova}}, and {{rtn|18|Unova}} |
}}

====In side games====

===Held items===
===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=Electric|
type2=Fire|
HP=75|
Attack=94|
Defense=83|
SpAtk=101|
SpDef=77|
Speed=105}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{Type effectiveness|
type1=Electric|
type2=Fire|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting= 100 |
Flying= 50 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 400 |
Rock= 200 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 25 |
Fire= 50 |
Water= 200 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric= 50 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100
}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh|Rawr|Electric|Fire|5|5}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Growl|Normal|Status|—|100|40}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Quick Attack|Normal|Physical|40|100|30}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Fury Swipes|Normal|Physical|18|80|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|4|Sand-Attack|Ground|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|8|Thundershock|Electric|Special|40|100|30||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|8|Ember|Fire|Special|40|100|25||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|10|Metal Claw|Steel|Physical|50|95|35}}
{{learnlist/level5|12|Bite|Dark|Special|60|100|25}}
{{learnlist/level5|16|Will-O-wisp|Fire|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|16|Charge|Electric|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|19|Rage|Normal|Physical|20|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|24|Spark|Electric|Special|65|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|24|Flame Wheel|Fire|Special|60|100|25||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|29|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|31|Scary Face|Normal|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|34|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|37|Take Down|Normal|Physical|90|85|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|41|Crush Claw|Normal|Physical|75|95|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|48|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|95|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|48|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|95|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelf|Rawr|Electric|Fire|5|5}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh|Rawr|Electric|Fire|3|3}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM05|Roar|Normal|—|100|20|Cool|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM06|Toxic|Poison|—|85|10|Smart|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|—|100|15|Smart|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|—|—|5|Beauty|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|150|90|5|Cool|4|4}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM17|Protect|Normal|—|—|10|Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|—|—|25|Beauty|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM21|Frustration|Normal|—|100|20|Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM23|Iron Tail|Steel|100|75|15|Cool|1|4}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM24|Thunderbolt|Electric|95|100|15|Cool|4|0||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM25|Thunder|Electric|120|70|10|Cool|2|2||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM27|Return|Normal|—|100|20|Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM28|Dig|Ground|60|100|10|Smart|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM32|Double Team|Normal|—|—|15|Cool|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM34|Shock Wave|Electric|60|—|20|Cool|2|0||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM35|Flamethrower|Fire|95|100|15|Beauty|4|0||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM38|Fire Blast|Fire|120|85|5|Beauty|4|0||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM40|Aerial Ace|Flying|60|—|20|Cool|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM42|Facade|Normal|70|100|20|Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM43|Secret Power|Normal|70|100|20|Smart|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM44|Rest|Psychic|—|—|10|Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM45|Attract|Normal|—|100|15|Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM46|Thief|Dark|40|100|10|Tough|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM50|Overheat|Fire|140|90|5|Beauty|6|0||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm3|HM04|Strength|Normal|80|100|15|Tough|2|1}}
{{learnlist/tm3|HM05|Flash|Normal|—|70|15|Beauty|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|HM06|Rock Smash|Fighting|20|100|15|Tough|1|3}}
{{learnlist/tmf|Rawr|Electric|Fire|3|3}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh|Rawr|electric|fire|3|3}}
{{learnlist/breed3|{{MSP|025|Pikachu}}{{MSP|026|Raichu}}{{MSP|058|Growlithe}}{{MSP|059|Arcanine}}{{MSP|077|Ponyta}}{{MSP|078|Rapidash}} {{MSP|083|Farfetch'd}}{{MSP|135|Jolteon}}{{MSP|190|Aipom}}{{MSP|215|Sneasel}}|Agility|Psychic|—|—|30|Cool|3|0}}
{{learnlist/breed3|{{MSP|058|Growlithe}}{{MSP|059|Arcanine}}{{MSP|203|Girafarig}}{{MSP|209|Snubbull}}{{MSP|210|Granbull}}{{MSP|228|Houndour}} {{MSP|229|Houndoom}}{{MSP|261|Poochyena}}{{MSP|262|Mightyena}}{{MSP|303|Mawile}}{{MSP|336|Seviper}}|Crunch|Dark|80|100|15|Tough|1|4}}
{{learnlist/breed3|{{MSP|220|Swinub}}{{MSP|221|Piloswine}}{{MSP|231|Phanpy}}{{MSP|232|Donphan}}{{MSP|255|Torchic}}{{MSP|256|Combusken}} {{MSP|257|Blaziken}}{{MSP|288|Vigoroth}}{{MSP|289|Slaking}}|Endure|Normal|—|—|10|Tough|2|0}}
{{learnlist/breed3|{{MSP|058|Growlithe}}{{MSP|059|Arcanine}}{{MSP|324|Torkoal}}|Heat Wave|Fire|100|90|10|Beauty|4|0||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed3|{{MSP|019|Rattata}}{{MSP|020|Raticate}}{{MSP|023|Ekans}}{{MSP|024|Arbok}}{{MSP|128|Tauros}}{{MSP|197|Umbreon}} {{MSP|206|Dunsparce}}{{MSP|335|Zangoose}}{{MSP|359|Absol}}|Pursuit|Dark|40|100|20|Smart|2|1}}
{{learnlist/breed3|{{MSP|027|Sandshrew}}{{MSP|028|Sandslash}}{{MSP|155|Cyndaquil}}{{MSP|156|Quilava}}{{MSP|157|Typhlosion}}{{MSP|190|Aipom}}|Swift|Normal|60|—|20|Cool|2|0}}
{{learnlist/breedf|Rawr|electric|fire|3|3}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh|Rawr|Electric|Fire|3|3}}
{{learnlist/tutor3|Body Slam|Normal|85|100|15|Tough|1|4|||yes|no|no}}
{{learnlist/tutor3|Counter|Fighting|—|100|20|Tough|2|0|||yes|no|no}}
{{learnlist/tutor3|Double-Edge|Normal|120|100|15|Tough|6|0|||yes|no|no}}
{{learnlist/tutor3|Mimic|Normal|—|—|10|Cute|1|0|||yes|no|no}}
{{learnlist/tutor3|Substitute|Normal|—|—|10|Smart|2|0|||yes|no|no}}
{{learnlist/tutor3|Swagger|Normal|—|90|15|Cute|2|0|||yes|no|no}}
{{learnlist/tutor3|Swords Dance|Normal|—|—|10|Beauty|1|0|||yes|no|no}}
{{learnlist/tutor3|Thunder Wave|Electric|—|100|20|Cool|2|1|||yes|no|no}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Rawr|Electric|Fire|3|3}}

====Special moves====

===={{Trading Card Game}}-only moves====

===Side game data===

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|family=none
|sprite1=none
|name1=Rawr
|type1-1=Electric
|type2-1=Fire}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite |
type=Electric |
type2=Fire |
gen=5 |
gender=none |
name=Rawr |
ndex=650 |
}}

==Trivia==

===Origin===
Rawr is based upon an undersea Sponge.

====Name origin====
Its name is likely derived from Rawk[http://talesofsmash.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=viewprofile&user=feeltherawk] and Roar, the generic cry of a tiger.


{{PokémonPrevNext | type=electric | type2=fire | prev=Genosect | next=Bulbasaur | prevnum=649| nextnum=001}}

User:SLE aman/fanhax

2010-12-05T15:24:30Z

SLE aman: Created page with "{{PokémonPrevNext | type=electric | type2=fire | prev=Genosect | next=Bulbasaur | prevnum=649| nextnum=001}} {{PokémonInfobox| jname=ダゲキ | tmname=Rawr| size=150px| art=B..."

{{PokémonPrevNext | type=electric | type2=fire | prev=Genosect | next=Bulbasaur | prevnum=649| nextnum=001}}
{{PokémonInfobox|
jname=ダゲキ |
tmname=Rawr|
size=150px|
art=BW|
species=Flarele Tiger |
typen=2 |
type1=Electric |
type2=Fire |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=- |
ndex=403 |
height-ftin=6'03" |
height-m=1.9 |
weight-lbs=341.7 |
weight-kg=155.0 |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Ground |
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=20 |
evat=2 |
expyield=213 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gendercode=63|
color=Brown |
catchrate=75 |
body=08 |
pokefordex= |
generation=5 |
footnotes=}}

It [[Evolution|evolves]] from something when exposed to an as-of-yet undetermined {{evostone|evolution stone}}.

==Biology==
===Physiology===

===Special abilities===

===Behavior===

===Habitat===

===Diet===

==In the anime==

===Major appearances===

===Minor appearances===

==In the manga==

==In the TCG==

==Game data==

===Pokédex entries===

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=Electric|
type2=Fire|
gen=5 |
bwrarity=Spot|
bwarea=Outside [[Yaguruma Forest]], Outside {{un|Victory Road}}, [[Route]]s {{rtn|10|Unova}}, {{rtn|15|Unova}}, and {{rtn|18|Unova}} |
}}

====In side games====

===Held items===
===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=Electric|
type2=Fire|
HP=75|
Attack=94|
Defense=83|
SpAtk=101|
SpDef=77|
Speed=105}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{Type effectiveness|
type1=Electric|
type2=Fire|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting= 100 |
Flying= 50 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 400 |
Rock= 200 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 25 |
Fire= 50 |
Water= 200 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric= 50 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100
}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh|Rawr|Electric|Fire|5|5}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Growl|Normal|Status|—|100|40}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Quick Attack|Normal|Physical|40|100|30}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Fury Swipes|Normal|Physical|18|80|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|4|Sand-Attack|Ground|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|8|Thundershock|Electric|Special|40|100|30||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|8|Ember|Fire|Special|40|100|25||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|10|Metal Claw|Steel|Physical|50|95|35}}
{{learnlist/level5|12|Bite|Dark|Special|60|100|25}}
{{learnlist/level5|16|Will-O-wisp|Fire|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|16|Charge|Electric|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|19|Rage|Normal|Physical|20|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|24|Spark|Electric|Special|65|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|24|Flame Wheel|Fire|Special|60|100|25||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|29|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|31|Scary Face|Normal|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|34|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|37|Take Down|Normal|Physical|90|85|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|41|Crush Claw|Normal|Physical|75|95|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|48|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|95|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|48|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|95|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelf|Rawr|Electric|Fire|5|5}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh|Rawr|Electric|Fire|3|3}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM05|Roar|Normal|—|100|20|Cool|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM06|Toxic|Poison|—|85|10|Smart|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|—|100|15|Smart|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|—|—|5|Beauty|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|150|90|5|Cool|4|4}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM17|Protect|Normal|—|—|10|Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|—|—|25|Beauty|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM21|Frustration|Normal|—|100|20|Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM23|Iron Tail|Steel|100|75|15|Cool|1|4}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM24|Thunderbolt|Electric|95|100|15|Cool|4|0||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM25|Thunder|Electric|120|70|10|Cool|2|2||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM27|Return|Normal|—|100|20|Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM28|Dig|Ground|60|100|10|Smart|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM32|Double Team|Normal|—|—|15|Cool|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM34|Shock Wave|Electric|60|—|20|Cool|2|0||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM35|Flamethrower|Fire|95|100|15|Beauty|4|0||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM38|Fire Blast|Fire|120|85|5|Beauty|4|0||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM40|Aerial Ace|Flying|60|—|20|Cool|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM42|Facade|Normal|70|100|20|Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM43|Secret Power|Normal|70|100|20|Smart|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM44|Rest|Psychic|—|—|10|Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM45|Attract|Normal|—|100|15|Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM46|Thief|Dark|40|100|10|Tough|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|TM50|Overheat|Fire|140|90|5|Beauty|6|0||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm3|HM04|Strength|Normal|80|100|15|Tough|2|1}}
{{learnlist/tm3|HM05|Flash|Normal|—|70|15|Beauty|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm3|HM06|Rock Smash|Fighting|20|100|15|Tough|1|3}}
{{learnlist/tmf|Rawr|Electric|Fire|3|3}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh|Rawr|electric|fire|3|3}}
{{learnlist/breed3|{{MSP|025|Pikachu}}{{MSP|026|Raichu}}{{MSP|058|Growlithe}}{{MSP|059|Arcanine}}{{MSP|077|Ponyta}}{{MSP|078|Rapidash}} {{MSP|083|Farfetch'd}}{{MSP|135|Jolteon}}{{MSP|190|Aipom}}{{MSP|215|Sneasel}}|Agility|Psychic|—|—|30|Cool|3|0}}
{{learnlist/breed3|{{MSP|058|Growlithe}}{{MSP|059|Arcanine}}{{MSP|203|Girafarig}}{{MSP|209|Snubbull}}{{MSP|210|Granbull}}{{MSP|228|Houndour}} {{MSP|229|Houndoom}}{{MSP|261|Poochyena}}{{MSP|262|Mightyena}}{{MSP|303|Mawile}}{{MSP|336|Seviper}}|Crunch|Dark|80|100|15|Tough|1|4}}
{{learnlist/breed3|{{MSP|220|Swinub}}{{MSP|221|Piloswine}}{{MSP|231|Phanpy}}{{MSP|232|Donphan}}{{MSP|255|Torchic}}{{MSP|256|Combusken}} {{MSP|257|Blaziken}}{{MSP|288|Vigoroth}}{{MSP|289|Slaking}}|Endure|Normal|—|—|10|Tough|2|0}}
{{learnlist/breed3|{{MSP|058|Growlithe}}{{MSP|059|Arcanine}}{{MSP|324|Torkoal}}|Heat Wave|Fire|100|90|10|Beauty|4|0||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed3|{{MSP|019|Rattata}}{{MSP|020|Raticate}}{{MSP|023|Ekans}}{{MSP|024|Arbok}}{{MSP|128|Tauros}}{{MSP|197|Umbreon}} {{MSP|206|Dunsparce}}{{MSP|335|Zangoose}}{{MSP|359|Absol}}|Pursuit|Dark|40|100|20}}
{{learnlist/breed3|{{MSP|027|Sandshrew}}{{MSP|028|Sandslash}}{{MSP|155|Cyndaquil}}{{MSP|156|Quilava}}{{MSP|157|Typhlosion}}{{MSP|190|Aipom}}|Swift|Normal|60|—|20}}
{{learnlist/breedf|Rawr|electric|fire|3|3}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh|Dageki|fighting|fighting|5|5}}
{{learnlist/tutor5null}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Dageki|fighting|fighting|5|5}}

====Special moves====

===={{Trading Card Game}}-only moves====

===Side game data===

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|family=none
|sprite1=539
|name1=Dageki
|type1-1=Fighting}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite |
type=fighting |
gen=5 |
gender=none |
name=Dageki |
ndex=539 |
}}

==Trivia==
* Dageki is currently the only Pokémon that able to learn {{m|Rock Smash}} by leveling up.
* Dageki and {{p|Nageki}} draw parallels to the [[Generation I]] Pokémon {{p|Hitmonlee}} and {{p|Hitmonchan}}, in that they are {{type2|Fighting}} Pokémon that appear to be related to each other.

===Origin===
Dageki is based upon a [[wp:Karate|Karate master]].

====Name origin====
Its name is likely derived from 打撃 ''dageki'', blow, strike.


{{PokémonPrevNext | type=electric | type2=fire | prev=Genosect | next=Bulbasaur | prevnum=649| nextnum=001}}

Fighting (type)

2010-11-17T21:27:08Z

SLE aman: /* Trivia */ There's only one type immune to psychic anyway. Might as well say Cobalon is the only one immune to poison.

{{ElementalTypes}}
{{TypeNotice|Fighting|かくとう|Fighting}}
Notable Pokémon Trainers that specialize in Fighting-type Pokémon are [[Bruno]] of the [[Indigo Plateau]] [[Elite Four]], [[Chuck]] of [[Cianwood City]], [[Brawly]] of [[Dewford Town]], [[Maylene]] of [[Veilstone City]], and [[Renbu]] of the [[Isshu]] Elite Four. The [[Fighting Dojo]] of [[Saffron City]] is also home to several Trainers of Fighting-type Pokémon, although it is no longer an official Gym.

==Statistical averages==
===Overall===
{{BaseStatNoCat|
type=fighting |
HP=67 |
Attack=93 |
Defense=64 |
SpAtk=51 |
SpDef=70 |
Speed=64 }}

===Fully evolved===
{{BaseStatNoCat|
type=fighting|
HP=74.40 |
Attack=109.33 |
Defense=72.53 |
SpAtk=65.33 |
SpDef=83.73 |
Speed=78.73 }}


==Battle properties==
{{typebattle
|type=Fighting
|weakto1=Flying
|weakto2=Psychic
|resist1=Bug
|resist2=Dark
|resist3=Rock
|weaken1=Normal
|weaken2=Rock
|weaken3=Steel
|weaken4=Ice
|weaken5=Dark
|resisted1=Poison
|resisted2=Flying
|resisted3=Bug
|resisted4=Psychic
|noeffect1=Ghost
}}
''Note:'' Although Fighting-type attacks normally have no effect on {{type2|Ghost}} Pokémon, the moves {{m|Foresight}} and {{m|Odor Sleuth}}, as well as the ability {{a|Scrappy}}, allow both Normal-type and Fighting-type moves to affect Ghost-type Pokémon.

==Characteristics==
As of [[Generation IV]], the Fighting type, along with {{t|Ice}} and {{t|Ground}}, is often considered a key offensive type in the game. In the past, the type was not as effective thanks to the power of the {{type2|Psychic}}s, but now their useful resistances and vast type coverage allow many Fighting-types to sweep freely.

Defensively, the Fighting type has cons and pros. Fighting-type Pokémon have key resistances to Dark and Rock, but their weaknesses are to the common Flying and Psychic types. They also usually fall to Psychic moves in one turn, due to a low Special Defense. However, several Fighting Pokémon (Like {{p|Lucario}}, {{p|Gallade}}, {{p|Zuruzukin}} and {{p|Cobalon}}) have a subtype that rids them of the Psychic weakness. Also, resistance to {{t|Bug}} can sometimes assist Fighting types (Though Bug has that same resistance to Fighting).

Offensively, the Fighting type is very powerful. It hits five different types with super-effective damage, more than any other type except for the {{type2|Ground}}, with which it ties. It deals super-effective damage to Rock and Steel, types which generally have high Defense, and is the only type super-effective against Normal. It is super-effective against Ice, a key offensive but low defensive type. It is also one of the two types super-effective against Dark. This is slightly balanced out by the fact that Ghosts are immune to Fighting attacks without the aid of {{m|Foresight}}/{{m|Odor Sleuth}} or the {{a|Scrappy}} ability. In the first three generations, there were very few powerful Fighting-type moves, but this has changed with the introduction of {{m|Close Combat}} and increased availability of moves such as {{m|Superpower}}. It should be noted that the offensive combination Fighting/Ghost is resisted by no Pokémon, as only the theoretical typing of Normal/Ghost will be able to resist it. The Fighting type also pairs up well with the {{t|Dark}} type offensively as {{p|Croagunk|only}} {{p|Toxicroak|three}} {{p|Heracross|Pokémon}} currently resist a Fighting/Dark combination.

When used in contests, Fighting-type moves typically become [[Cool Contest|Cool]] or [[Tough Contest|Tough]], but can also be of two other Contest categories. No Fighting-type moves are of the [[Cute Contest|Cute]] category.

==Pokémon==

As of Generation V, there are 40 Pokémon with the Fighting type, making it the eleventh most common type.
===Pure Fighting-type Pokémon===
{| {| align="center" style="background: #{{fighting color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{fighting color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" align="center" class="sortable" style="background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{fighting color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|- style="background: #{{fighting color light}};"
! #
!
! Name
|-
|056
|{{MSP|056|Mankey}}
|{{p|Mankey}}
|-
|057
|{{MSP|057|Primeape}}
|{{p|Primeape}}
|-
|066
|{{MSP|066|Machop}}
|{{p|Machop}}
|-
|067
|{{MSP|067|Machoke}}
|{{p|Machoke}}
|-
|068
|{{MSP|068|Machamp}}
|{{p|Machamp}}
|-
|106
|{{MSP|106|Hitmonlee}}
|{{p|Hitmonlee}}
|-
|107
|{{MSP|107|Hitmonchan}}
|{{p|Hitmonchan}}
|-
|236
|{{MSP|236|Tyrogue}}
|{{p|Tyrogue}}
|-
|237
|{{MSP|237|Hitmontop}}
|{{p|Hitmontop}}
|-
|296
|{{MSP|296|Makuhita}}
|{{p|Makuhita}}
|-
|297
|{{MSP|297|Hariyama}}
|{{p|Hariyama}}
|-
|447
|{{MSP|447|Riolu}}
|{{p|Riolu}}
|-
|532
|{{MSP|532|Dokkora}}
|{{p|Dokkora}}
|-
|533
|{{MSP|533|Dotekkotsu}}
|{{p|Dotekkotsu}}
|-
|534
|{{MSP|534|Roobushin}}
|{{p|Roobushin}}
|-
|538
|{{MSP|538|Nageki}}
|{{p|Nageki}}
|-
|539
|{{MSP|539|Dageki}}
|{{p|Dageki}}
|-
|619
|{{MSP|619|Kojofu}}
|{{p|Kojofu}}
|-
|620
|{{MSP|620|Kojondo}}
|{{p|Kojondo}}
|}
|}

===Half Fighting-type Pokémon===

''Primary Fighting-type Pokémon''
{| {| align="center" style="background: #{{fighting color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{fighting color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" align="center" class="sortable" style="background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{fighting color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|- style="background: #{{fighting color light}};"
! #
!
! Name
! Type 1
! Type 2
|-
|307
|{{MSP|307|Meditite}}
|{{p|Meditite}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
|-
|308
|{{MSP|308|Medicham}}
|{{p|Medicham}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
|-
|448
|{{MSP|448|Lucario}}
|{{p|Lucario}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
|}
|}

''Secondary Fighting-type Pokémon''
{| {| align="center" style="background: #{{fighting color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{fighting color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" align="center" class="sortable" style="background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{fighting color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|- style="background: #{{fighting color light}};"
! #
!
! Name
! Type 1
! Type 2
|-
|062
|{{MSP|062|Poliwrath}}
|{{p|Poliwrath}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
|214
|{{MSP|214|Heracross}}
|{{p|Heracross}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
|256
|{{MSP|256|Combusken}}
|{{p|Combusken}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
|257
|{{MSP|257|Blaziken}}
|{{p|Blaziken}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
|286
|{{MSP|286|Breloom}}
|{{p|Breloom}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
|391
|{{MSP|391|Monferno}}
|{{p|Monferno}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
|392
|{{MSP|392|Infernape}}
|{{p|Infernape}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
|453
|{{MSP|453|Croagunk}}
|{{p|Croagunk}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
|454
|{{MSP|454|Toxicroak}}
|{{p|Toxicroak}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
|475
|{{MSP|475|Gallade}}
|{{p|Gallade}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
|499
|{{MSP|499|Chaoboo}}
|{{p|Chaoboo}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
|500
|{{MSP|500|Enbuoh}}
|{{p|Enbuoh}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
|559
|{{MSP|559|Zuruggu}}
|{{p|Zuruggu}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
|560
|{{MSP|560|Zuruzukin}}
|{{p|Zuruzukin}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
|638
|{{MSP|638|Cobalon}}
|{{p|Cobalon}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
|639
|{{MSP|639|Terrakion}}
|{{p|Terrakion}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
|640
|{{MSP|640|Virizion}}
|{{p|Virizion}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
|647
|{{MSP|647|Keldeo}}
|{{p|Keldeo}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
|648
|{{MSP|648S|Meloetta}}
|{{p|Meloetta}}{{tt|*|Only Step Forme}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|}
|}

==Moves==

===Damage-dealing moves===

{| {| align="center" width="100%" style="background: #{{fighting color}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{fighting color light}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" align="center" class="sortable" style="background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{fighting color}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|- style="background:#{{fighting color light}}"
! Name
! Category
! Contest
! Power
! Accuracy
! PP
! width="70px" | Target
! Notes
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Arm Thrust}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Tough}}
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Hits two to five times in a row.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Aura Sphere}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
{{Contesttable|Beauty}}
| class="c" | 90
| class="c" | —%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Never misses.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Brick Break}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 75
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Breaks any barrier such as {{m|Light Screen}} and {{m|Reflect}}.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Close Combat}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Smart}}
| class="c" | 120
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 5
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Lowers the user's {{stat|Defense}} and {{stat|Special Defense}}.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Counter}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Tough}}
| class="c" | Varies
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Returns Physical attack damage for double.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Cross Chop}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 100
| class="c" | 80%
| class="c" | 5
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Has a high critical hit ratio.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Double Kick}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Tough}}
| class="c" | 30
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 30
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Hits twice.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Drain Punch}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Beauty}}
| class="c" | {{tt|75|60 prior to generation V}}
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | {{tt|10|5 prior to Generation V}}
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | The user's HP is restored by half the damage taken by the target.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|DynamicPunch}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 100
| class="c" | 50%
| class="c" | 5
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Confuses the target.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Focus Blast}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 120
| class="c" | 70%
| class="c" | 5
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Has a 10% chance to lower target's {{stat|Special Defense}}.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Focus Punch}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Tough}}
| class="c" | 150
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | It will fail if the user is hit before it is used.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Force Palm}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 60
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Has a 30% chance of {{status|Paralysis|paralyzing}} the opponent.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Hammer Arm}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 100
| class="c" | 90%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Lowers the user's {{stat|Speed}}.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Hi Jump Kick}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | {{tt|130|85 in Generation I to III, 100 in Generation IV}}
| class="c" | 90%
| class="c" | {{tt|10|20 prior to Generation V}}
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | If it misses, the user is hurt instead.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Jump Kick}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | {{tt|100|70 in Generation I to III, 85 in Generation IV}}
| class="c" | 95%
| class="c" | {{tt|10|25 prior to Generation V}}
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | If it misses, the user is hurt instead.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Karate Chop}}{{tt|*|Normal-type move in Generation I}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Tough}}
| class="c" | 50
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 25
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Has a high critical hit ratio.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Low Kick}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Tough}}
| class="c" | {{tt|Varies|50 in Generations I and II}}
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Inflicts greater damage on heavier foes.{{tt|*|Does damage and may cause flinching in Generations I and II}}
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Mach Punch}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 40
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 30
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Always attacks first.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Revenge}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Tough}}
| class="c" | 60
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Inflicts double the damage if the user has been hurt by the foe in the same turn.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Reversal}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | Varies
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | More powerful the less HP the user has.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Rock Smash}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Tough}}
| class="c" | {{tt|40|20 in Generations II and III}}
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | In battle: Has a 50% chance to lower the target's {{stat|Defense}}. Outside of battle: Can smash cracked boulders.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Rolling Kick}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 60
| class="c" | 85%
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Has a 30% chance of causing the opponent to {{status|Flinch|flinch}}.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Seismic Toss}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Tough}}
| class="c" | Varies
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Inflicts damage equal to the user's level.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Sky Uppercut}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 85
| class="c" | 90%
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Capable of hitting opponents while they are using {{m|Fly}}.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Submission}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 80
| class="c" | 80%
| class="c" | 25
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | User receives 25% recoil damage.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Superpower}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Tough}}
| class="c" | 120
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 5
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Lowers the user's {{stat|Attack}} and {{stat|Defense}}.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Triple Kick}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Beauty}}
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | 90%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Hits three times. Gains power with each hit.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Vacuum Wave}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
{{Contesttable|Smart}}
| class="c" | 40
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 30
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Always attacks first.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Vital Throw}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 70
| class="c" | —%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | The user attacks last. In return, this move is guaranteed not to miss.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Wake-Up Slap}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Smart}}
| class="c" | 60
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Doubles in power when the target is {{status|Sleep|asleep}}, but then awakens that target.
|}
|}

===Non-damaging moves===

{| {| align="center" width="100%" style="background: #{{fighting color}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{fighting color light}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" align="center" class="sortable" style="background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{fighting color}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|- style="background:#{{fighting color light}}"
! Name
! Category
! Contest
! Power
! Accuracy
! PP
! Target
! Notes
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Bulk Up}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
{{Contesttable|Beauty}}
| class="c" | —
| class="c" | —%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | User
| class="l" | Raises user's {{stat|Attack}} and {{stat|Defense}}.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Detect}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | —
| class="c" | —%
| class="c" | 5
| class="c" | User
| class="l" | User evades all attacks. Chance of failing rises if it is used in succession.
|}
|}

==Trivia==
* As of [[Generation V]], the Fighting type is the only type that has not been paired with the {{type2|Flying}}.
* All of the [[legendary golems]], including {{p|Regigigas}}, are weak to Fighting moves.
* No Fighting-type move can hit both foes in a double battle.
* Along with the {{t|Ground|Ground-type}}, Fighting-type moves are super effective against the most Pokémon types: five.
* Fighting is the only type to have two variations of {{m|Quick Attack}}: {{m|Mach Punch}} and {{m|Vacuum Wave}}.
** It is also the only type to have a special variation of Quick Attack.
* As of [[Generation II]], the Fighting type (along with {{t|Bug}}) are one of only two pairs of different types to share the same interaction against each other which isn't neutral (Bug resists Fighting and vice versa). The other pair is {{t|Normal}} and {{t|Ghost}} (Normal is immune to Ghost and vice versa).
*There has been one Elite Four member or Gym Leader specializing in Fighting-type Pokémon in every generation.
*Color representations for the Fighting type have generally been inconsistent in various Pokémon media. While the Fighting-type has been associated with the color red in the main Pokémon games since [[Generation III]], it is associated with the color orange in [[Pokémon Stadium]] and [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]], and with the color brown in the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]].
* Fighting is the only formerly all Physical type not to have any of it's moves changed into Special moves. All of its Special moves were introduced after the Physical/Special split was retooled.
* So far, [[Generation I]] and [[Generation V]] are the only generations lacking a Fighting type gym (Although the Saffron Dojo in [[Kanto]] does specialize in the Fighting type and was formerly a gym).
** They are also the generations to ''introduce'' a Fighting type [[Elite Four]], as [[Bruno]] retained his status as an Elite Four member for Generation II.
* Fighting is the most common secondary type for evolutions of starter Pokémon, with three starter lines being paired with it, all of the {{type2|Fire}}.
* [[Generation V]] is the first Generation to contain Fighting-type [[Legendary Pokémon|Legendaries]].
* {{p|Lucario}} is the only non-legendary Fighting-type Pokémon whose Special Attack stat is superior to its Attack stat.
* Generation V introduced the most Fighting-types, with 15 introduced, not including {{p|Meloetta}}'s Step Forme.
* [[Generation II]] introduced the least Fighting types, with 3 introduced.

==In other languages==
{{langtable
|color={{fighting color}}|bordercolor={{fighting color light}}
|ja='''かくとう''' (格闘) ''kakutō''
|zh_cmn='''格鬥''' ''gédòu''
|nl='''Vecht'''
|fi='''Taistelu'''
|fr_ca='''Combat'''
|fr_eu='''Combat'''
|de='''Kampf'''
|el='''Μαχητής''' - ''Mahitis''
|he='''לוחם''' ''lohem''
|it='''Lotta'''
|ko='''격투''' ''gyeoktu''
|pl='''Walczący'''
|pt_br='''Lutador'''
|ru='''Боевой''' ''boevoi''
|es_la='''Lucha'''
|es_eu='''Lucha'''}}

[[es:Tipo Lucha]]
[[pt:Tipo Fighting]]

[[de:Kampf (Typ)]]
[[fr:Combat (type)]]
[[ja:かくとう]]

Porygon (Pokémon)

2010-04-18T22:31:51Z

SLE aman: /* Trivia */

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Flareon | next=Omanyte|type=normal|| prevnum=136| nextnum=138}}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Porygon |
jname=ポリゴン |
tmname=Porygon |
image=137Porygon.png |
size=130px |
caption=Artwork from FR/LG |
pron=<sc>''por''-eh-gon</sc> <ref>Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''. Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5</ref> |
ndex=137 |
oldjdex=215 |
jdex=220 |
hdex=292 |
sdex=192 |
fbrow=103 |
typen=1 |
type1=Normal |
type2= |
species=Virtual |
height-ftin=2′07″ |
height-m=0.8 |
weight-lbs=80.5 |
weight-kg=36.5 |
abilityn=2 |
ability1=Trace |
ability2=Download |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Mineral |
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=20 |
evsa=1 |
expyield=130 |
lv100exp=1,000,000 |
gendercode=255 |
female=0 |
male=0 |
color=Pink |
catchrate=45 |
body=07 |
pokefordex=porygon |
generation=1 |
footnotes=}}
'''Porygon''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ポリゴン''' ''Porygon'') is a {{type2|Normal}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolves]] into {{p|Porygon2}} when [[trade]]d holding an {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|Up-Grade}}, which evolves into {{p|Porygon-Z}} when traded holding a {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|Dubious Disc}}.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Porygon is the first [[artificial Pokémon]] that was ever created. It was created by [[Pokémon Lab]] according to a Pokémon Report found in [[Silph Co.]] Porygon has a pink polyhedral body with a blue stomach, blue triangular prism feet and a blue rectangular prism tail. Porygon has a pink, polyhedral head that ends in a blue beak and has hexagonal eyes. It does not breathe. Porygon is made completely out of programming code. Built into this code is a Silph copyright protection preventing duplication through electronic means.
====Gender differences====
Porygon is a genderless species.
====Special abilities====
In [[Generation I]], Porygon's move, {{m|Conversion}}, alters its own [[Elemental types|type]] to its opponent's type. This was changed for [[Generation II]], where Conversion now changed the user's type to that of one of the user's other moves.

Porygon is capable of using various {{t|Ice}} and {{t|Electric}}al attacks, along with a few {{t|Psychic}} abilities and the rare ability to wield {{m|Tri Attack}}.

Even though Porygon is an unevolved, non-[[legendary Pokémon]], it can still learn {{m|Hyper Beam}} and {{m|Giga Impact}}.

Porygon, and its evolved forms, {{p|Porygon2}}, and {{p|Porygon-Z}}, are the [[Signature move|only known Pokémon]] that learn {{m|Conversion}} and {{m|Conversion 2}}. Porygon is also the only known Pokémon that learns {{m|Sharpen}}.

===Behavior===
Porygon can only perform the basic motions included in its program, and thus it can be said that its behavior is artificial.

===Habitat===
[[Image:Urban.gif|right|frame|{{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Urban Pokémon}}]]
Porygon, because they're man-made, are generally found in computers or in labs and other buildings working with people, which makes it almost uncatchable. However, Porygon are found wild in Sinnoh's [[Trophy Garden]] and can be won at the Rocket Game Corner in [[Celadon City]].

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}
Porygon is completely artificial and doesn't need to eat. However, it is still seen eating Pokémon food in [[Pokémon Snap]].
It can also be seen eating apples and gummies in the [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]] Series. It can also be seen eating Poffins in {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}.

==In the anime==
[[File:EP038.png|right|thumb|210px|Porygon in the anime]]
===Major appearances===
Porygon appeared in the banned episode, ''[[EP038|Electric Soldier Porygon]]''. This episode caused almost 700 children in Japan to have seizures due to a flashing strobe effect, and was therefore never aired again anywhere in the world. Since then, Porygon and its evolutions have never played a main role in another episode, despite the fact that it was actually [[Ash's Pikachu|Pikachu]] who caused the seizures.

===Minor appearances===
A Porygon made a brief appearance during a graphic display in ''[[EP047|A Chansey Operation]]''.

A Porygon made a cameo during the "World of Pokémon" opening narration of the first five movies.

In the English dub of [[Who's That Pokémon?]] in ''[[EP098|A Way Off Day Off]]'', Porygon is the Pokémon.

==In the manga==
===Pokémon Adventures===
{{adv|Blue}} obtains a Porygon during his time in [[Celadon City]], and it has since then become a core member of his team. Prior to {{PAV|13}}, it has since evolved into {{p|Porygon2}}.

====Pokédex entries====
{{Mangadexheader}}
{{Mangadexbody|Pokémon Adventures|[[PS055]]|A Pokémon that consists entirely of programming code. Capable of moving freely in cyberspace.}}
{{Mangadexfooter}}

==In the TCG==
{{main|Porygon (TCG)}}

==Other appearances==
===[[Super Smash Bros.]]/[[Super Smash Bros. Melee|Melee]]===
Porygon pops out of a door on top of the [[Silph Co.]] building in the [[Saffron City (stage)|Saffron City stage]]. It damages players that come into contact with it.

Porygon's only appearance in Melee is that of a Poké Float. When the fighting is on {{p|Slowpoke}}'s tail, three will travel across the top of the screen. However, they move too quickly to land on and so are little more than decoration in practice.

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=normal
|gen=1
|redbluedex=A Pokémon that consists entirely of programming code. Capable of moving freely in cyberspace.
|yellowdex=The only Pokémon people anticipate can fly into space. None has managed the feat yet, however.
|stadiumdex=A man-made Pokémon that consists entirely of programming code. It is capable of moving freely in cyberspace.
|golddex=It is a manmade Pokémon. Since it doesn't breathe, people are eager to try it in any environment.
|silverdex=A manmade Pokémon that came about as a result of research. It is programmed with only basic motions.
|crystaldex=An artificial Pokémon created due to extensive research, it can perform only what is in its program.
|stadium2dex=It is a manmade Pokémon. Since it doesn't breathe, people are eager to try it in any environment.
|rubydex=Porygon is capable of reverting itself entirely back to program data and entering cyberspace. This Pokémon is copy-protected so it cannot be duplicated by copying.
|sapphiredex=Porygon is capable of reverting itself entirely back to program data and entering cyberspace. This Pokémon is copy-protected so it cannot be duplicated by copying.
|emeralddex=It is capable of reverting itself entirely back to program data in order to enter cyberspace. A Porygon is copy-protected so it cannot be duplicated.
|firereddex=Using the most advanced technologies, scientists finally succeeded in making the first artificial Pokémon.
|leafgreendex=A Pokémon that consists entirely of programming code. Capable of moving freely in cyberspace.
|diamonddex=The world's first artificially created Pokémon. It can travel through electronic space.
|pearldex=The world's first artificially created Pokémon. It can travel through electronic space.
|platinumdex=A man-made Pokémon created using advanced scientific means. It can move freely in cyberspace.
|heartgolddex=It is a manmade Pokémon. Since it doesn't breathe, people are eager to try it in any environment.
|soulsilverdex=A manmade Pokémon that came about as a result of research. It is programmed with only basic motions.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=normal |
gen=1 |
rbrarity=Unlimited |
rbarea=[[Rocket Game Corner]] |
yrarity=Unlimited |
yarea=[[Rocket Game Corner]] |
gsrarity=Unlimited |
gsarea=[[Rocket Game Corner]] |
crarity=Unlimited |
carea=[[Rocket Game Corner]] |
gen3ex=frlg|
frlgrarity=Unlimited |
frlgarea=[[Rocket Game Corner]] |
dprarity=Rare |
dparea=[[Trophy Garden]] |
ptrarity=One |
ptarea=A person in [[Veilstone City]] |
palarea=Field |
hgssrarity=Unlimited |
hgssarea=[[Rocket Game Corner]]
}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=normal
|snap=[[Pokémon Island River|River]]
|trozei=[[Secret Storage 1]] [[Huge Storage 5]] [[Mr. Who's Den]]
|md=[[Buried Relic]] (5F-10F)
|ranger=[[Dusk Factory]]
|md2=[[Deep Spacial Rift]] (B3-B9)
|scramble=[[Eternal Tower]]
}}

Porygon will not appear in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Blue Rescue Team until a rescue mission involving it has been completed, using the following Wonder Mail code:
:1?58 T5+? 4J78
:WS?7 F??R NQ?X
Objective: Rescue Porygon on floor 4 of [[Thunderwave Cave]].

===Held items===
{{HeldItems
|type=normal
|rby1=Bitter Berry|rby1type=Berries (Generation II)|rby1rar=100|rby1image=no
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats with RBY|
HP= 65 |
Attack= 60 |
Defense=70 |
SpAtk= 85 |
SpDef= 75 |
Special=75 |
Speed= 40 |
type=Normal }}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|type=Normal
|Speed=2
|SpeedMax=3
|Power=2
|PowerMax=3
|Technique=2
|TechniqueMax=3
|Stamina=5
|StaminaMax=5
|Jump=2
|JumpMax=3
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP Type effectiveness|
type1=normal|
Normal= 100 |
Flying= 100 |
Fighting=200 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ghost= 0 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}

The numbers written above are correct if Porygon hasn't changed its type using {{m|Conversion}} or {{m|Conversion 2}}.

===Learnset===
Note: With the use of {{m|Conversion}} or {{m|Conversion 2}}, any damaging move can theoretically become a STAB for Porygon.

====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|Normal|Normal|4|1|Porygon}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Tackle|Normal|Physical|35|95|35|Tough|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Sharpen|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Conversion|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|1}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Conversion 2|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|1}}
{{mlentry4|7|Psybeam|Psychic|Special|65|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|12|Agility|Psychic|Status|—|—|30|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|18|Recover|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|23|Magnet Rise|Electric|Status|—|—|10|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|29|Signal Beam|Bug|Special|75|100|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|34|Recycle|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|40|Discharge|Electric|Special|80|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|45|Lock-On|Normal|Status|—|—|5|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|51|Tri Attack|Normal|Special|80|100|10|Beauty|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|56|Magic Coat|Psychic|Status|—|—|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|62|Zap Cannon|Electric|Special|120|50|5|Cool|2}}
{{movelist/note|4|Normal}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|normal|normal|4|1|Porygon}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM13]]|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM14]]|Blizzard|Ice|Special|120|70|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM22]]|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10|Cool|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM23]]|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|100|75|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM24]]|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|95|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM25]]|Thunder|Electric|Special|120|70|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM29]]|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM30]]|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM34]]|Shock Wave|Electric|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM40]]|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM46]]|Thief|Dark|Physical|40|100|10|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM57]]|Charge Beam|Electric|Special|50|90|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM67]]|Recycle|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM70]]|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM73]]|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM77]]|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM85]]|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM92]]|Trick Room|Psychic|Status|—|—|5|Cute|2}}
{{movelist/note|4|Normal}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
None.

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|normal|normal|4|1|Porygon}}
{{mtentry4|Gravity|Psychic|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2|||no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Last Resort|Normal|Physical|130|100|5|Cute|0|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Pain Split|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Smart|2|||no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Role Play|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|1|||no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Signal Beam|Bug|Special|75|100|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cute|3||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Trick|Psychic|Status|—|100|10|Smart|0|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4|Normal}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=normal |
ndex=137 |
pinball=Catch |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Common |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=7.6 |
area=Decrepit Lab |
P1=<sc>there is nothing that science cannot achieve.</sc> |
P2=<sc>hp down 50 percent.</sc> |
P3=<sc>system error. polygons are falling apart.</sc> |
PL=<sc>level elevation achieved. science is victorious.</sc> |
Partner=no |
Ranger=yes |
group=Normal |
Assist=no |
fieldpower=0 |
field=None |
loop=3 |
MinEXP=42 |
MaxEXP=62 |
browser=Porygon makes itself invisible to confuse enemies and interfere with capture. |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=6.4 |
iq=E |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|family=Normal
|sprite1=137
|name1=Porygon
|type1-1=Normal
|evotype1=Trade
|held1=Up-Grade
|sprite2=233
|name2=Porygon2
|type1-2=Normal
|evotype2=Trade
|held2=Dubious Disc
|sprite3=474
|name3=Porygon-Z
|type1-3=Normal}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=normal|
gen=1|
gender=none|
ndex=137|
name=Porygon|
}}

==Trivia==
* Porygon is the only Pokémon that evolves by trade twice: Once holding the {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|Up-Grade}} into {{p|Porygon2}}, and a second time (as Porygon2) into {{p|Porygon-Z}} when holding a {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|Dubious Disc}}.
** That being said, Porygon is the only Pokémon that can be evolved twice when it is level 100.
* ''[[EP038|Electric Soldier Porygon]]'', which featured Porygon, caused seizures and irritated eyes. It was not Porygon itself, but {{AP|Pikachu}}'s {{m|Thunderbolt}}, which caused the problematic blue and red flash - even so, neither Porygon nor its evolutions have been seen in the anime since, except for the intro to [[M05|one of the movies]] and re-runs using the [[Pokérap]].
* Porygon is the only Pokémon who evolves into a smaller Pokémon, and then evolves into a larger Pokémon.
* Porygon's evolutionary line is the only three-stage evolutionary line whose members can all learn ''both'' {{m|Giga Impact}} and {{m|Hyper Beam}}.
* The Porygon family has three [[signature move]]s, along with {{p|Vespiquen}}, {{p|Hitmonlee}}{{tt|*|Only in Generation I}}, and the {{p|Cubone}} family{{tt|*|Prior to Generation IV}}, the most out of all Pokémon.
* In Generation II, it is possible for Porygon to have both effects of the move {{m|Curse}}. One is by simply using it to the non-Ghost effect of Curse. The other is by using either {{m|Conversion}} or {{m|Conversion 2}} to change its type to Ghost and have the Ghost effect of Curse. This is also possible for {{p|Porygon2}} and {{p|Smeargle}}.
* Porygon is one of five Pokémon that initially did not evolve into or from another Pokémon, but is now part of a three-stage evolutionary line, the other four being {{p|Chansey}}, {{p|Magmar}}, {{p|Electabuzz}}, and {{p|Roselia}}. However, unlike the others, Porygon received two evolutions, while the others got a pre-evolution and a new evolution.
* Despite being an unevolved Pokémon which can evolve twice, Porygon has a higher base stat total than {{p|Butterfree}}, {{p|Beedrill}}, {{p|Beautifly}} and {{p|Dustox}}, final form Pokémon which have evolved twice.
* In the 3D games, Porygon's animation reveals that it can detach its limbs and head when necessary. It can be seen thrusting its head forward until it breaks off for a brief second.
** Also, in Crystal sprites, as well as in {{OBP|Pokémon Ranger|game}} and [[Pokémon Snap]], it is shown that Porygon can make itself transparent or camouflaged. Ironically, it can not have the move {{m|Camouflage}}. However, in Crystal, it is not turning transparent, it is losing its texture and reverting to wireframe.
* Despite being man-made, Porygon can be hatched from an {{pkmn|egg}}.
===Origin===
It appears to be based on the concept of an origami crane made with primitive 3D graphics software.
====Name origin====
Porygon's name is a mix between ''{{wp|polygon}}'' and ''{{wp|origami}}''. It may also reflect the stereotype that Japanese people pronounce their 'L' sounds as 'R' sounds, Porygon being a mispronunciation of polygon.

==In other languages==
* [[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Porygon
* [[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Porygon
* [[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 폴리곤 ''Polligon''

==Related articles==

==External links==

==Notes==
<references />

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{{Project Pokédex notice}}

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[[Category:Pokémon that evolve through trading]]
[[Category:Pokémon that evolve through held items]]
[[Category:Pokémon that evolve by trading with a held item]]
[[Category:Pokémon that evolve by trading holding Up-Grade]]

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Talk:Generation V

2010-02-07T11:53:22Z

SLE aman:

<big><big><big>'''REMEMBER, THE BULBAGARDEN FORUMS HAVE A GENERATION V FORUM NOW. NO SPECULATION HERE PLEASE.'''</big></big></big>

MAKE SURE THAT YOU PUT CONFIRMED STUFF ONLY. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:23, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

==Any References?==
With the impending release of [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver]] in America, can someone keep an eye out for any in-game references to Gen. V? Much appreciated. [[User:The Jigglypuff Ninja|The Jigglypuff Ninja]] 01:04, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:I doubt there are any references to Gen V in HGSS. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 01:09, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::And I ''highly'' doubt that NoA would change the script to add such references in. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 01:09, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Any references will probably be in the new Ranger game. Although the Lock Capsule is probably related to something in Generation V.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 01:11, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::::It's a Gen IV event item. Likely gonna be for a Gen IV event. Think: what hasn't been released yet? Could be Celebi... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:04, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::At the risk of dragging this out too far (this is quickly becoming something that'd fit on the forums), hackers would have found a Celebi Event in the coding, but no one has. Add in that PokeBeach reports that it seems to have similar transfer data as the Manaphy Egg, and it seems like it's supposed to be transferred out of HGSS into a new game... but I digress. We have no proof either way.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 05:03, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::The question is... how would it be obtained in the first place? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:40, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

==Jumping the Gun a bit?==
Are you guys sure we aren't looking into this a bit too far? All we have for clues are that they announced a new game and a new *something*. Not to mention it says it's gonna be new on the DS. What's to be sure of all of that? For all we know, the new game could be MindCrystal, the silhouette could be a new Forme like the last 5 that were announced. The new game could be a wii sequel to Pokemon XD:Gale of Darkness. If we can't even have Pokemon evolved editing pages when they're in the titles of episodes, why can we just up and announce a new generation? I mean, Pokebeach even said the silhouette isn't Z, what makes anyone certain it's Generation V?[[User:SLE_aman|SLE_]][[User:SLE_aman/talk|aman]] 11:53, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

2008-08-08T04:57:29Z

SLE aman: /* Sprites */

== Previous discussions ==
* [[Talk:Shaymin (Pokémon)/Archive 1|Archive]]

== Sky Form Image? ==
Posted by 2/4chan apparantly. --[[User:Jennyrogue|JennyRogue]]
:...ew. It's pretty much just skinnier with longer limbs. Like when you hack Pikachu in Brawl to have Ganondorf's moves.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:08, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::I can't see the image because i'm at school but i saw a picture of it before i left home this morning (I think there the same picture so yeah), too be honest, i actually like it (: Sky form = Cool. Normal form = Cute. Well, the sky form looks sorta bad-ass too me actually (: [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 07:44, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Congratulations! Your Shaymin evolved into some Eevee thingy. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:31, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::xD [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 09:11, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::: It looks.......... Ok..... *Shoots Ken Sugimori*, But it's not that bad. --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 09:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:WHAT? Just as I was going against this 'Sky Form'...Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:44 23 May 2008'''''
::::::Its not to bad. Leafeon with more leaves and a flower and more white. yea not bad although I want to see what the sprite will be.--lord mada 15:26, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Looks Lisa-Frank like. Or like some Mary-Sue's pet. Ugh. I don't think I like this form one bit. :| [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|☆]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 16:23, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I think it's beautiful. you all probably didn't like it cause it changed from cute to mature and older-looking'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 17:40, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Of course, since I'm the stereotypical girl who only likes "ZOMG ADORABLE! ^____________^;" things and always makes her fanfiction characters start out with Eevee and Shaymin. Yeah, kill me for having my opinion. :| [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|☆]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 18:24, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::I'm not a big judger IN A NEGATIVE WAY like SOME PEOPLE  :)'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 18:58, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::I think it's still cute.^__^ '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 19:13, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::oo a girl that's different, that's cool :D'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 19:14, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::It looks like a goat with wings.......[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|C is for Cookie]] 19:16, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::How can you saw that???!!! It's adorable!!!!! '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 19:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

i wish i had a flying goat...{{u|Garrison12795}}

Wow It looks Like Shaymin Bred With Leafeon. I dont get it hows it Sky Form/e. I doesnt look like it can fly, but who knows because {{p|Ekans}} Can swim!!!''[[User:David aipom|David]]
''Aipom

:Well duh snakes can swim. It has wings, but not exactly the aerodymanics to fly'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 20:22, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

They look like leafs and i didnt expect all snakes to swim.''[[User:David aipom|David]]
''Aipom

:What do you think the wings are supposed to look like for a pure grass-type? and yes all snakes can swim'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 20:31, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::It's pretty obvious that this Shaymin is not pure Grass-type. It's Grass/Flying much like {{p|Tropius}} but Tropius' wings DO look like wings. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 21:05, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Hey, flyon and giratina have wings and are not of the flying type. If Shaymin does change forme, this will be the first time a Pokémon's type would be changed (excluding Arceus, but the whole point of Arceus's different formes is to have different types)'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 21:15, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::*You forgot that {{p|Castform}} also changes its form and it's type.
::::*{{p|Flygon}} has Levitate because it can't have 3 types (Dragon/Ground/Flying).
::::*We don't know if the Origin Forme will have a different ability.

::::With that in mind it's still possible that Shaymin will be part Flying type, as it's name is "Sky Form(e)". If it ain't Flying type, then it will have Levitate as ability. If not, the name won't be justifying why is it different than the Shaymin we all know. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 21:49, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::You know, it's Sky Forme, not Flying Forme. Just because the sky is up in the air doesn't mean it has anything to do with flying-types. Flygon has wings, and can fly, and it's a part ground type. The type can be completely unpredictable'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 21:53, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::I'm just saying that Giratina has wings, not flying type. Flygon too, and it's a ground type, yet it has wings. Castform change is forme is basically because of for the type-change, similar to Arceus'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 21:55, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::No Pokémon that live in the sky is not part Flying or has levitate as Ability. I know you think of Giratina, but he lives in the reverse world where there's no sky nor ground. I think it's better to wait what does Platinum tell us (or at least the Giratina's movie). '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 22:00, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I wasn't thinking of Giratina, I'm thinking of Flygon. LOOK, I just think that Shaymin won't change type. Therefore I think it will have Levitate. HEY I HAVE NEVER PLAYED A MAIN SERIES POKéMON GAME IN MY LIFE'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 22:08, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't see why you try to make me feel stupid, I've never told ya it won't have levitate. I already said that ALL Pokémon, excluding Giratina, '''that can fly''' are part Flying-type '''''OR''''' have Levitate as ability.
I get your point that Flygon is Ground/Dragon and has wings, but it still flies and has Levitate. I know that maybe Shaymin will have Levitate and I already said that. And finally, if I'm a new user here that doesn't mean that I'm stupid or I know nothing. I did not offend you so you don't offend me, right? '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 22:20, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Look @ the tail! It could be used as a propeller!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:14, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:You do all realize that this is fake, right? [http://lexyeevee.livejournal.com/289857.html] --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:24, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

We hadn't seen the news so NO! But who is covering this over @ Bulbanews?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 01:47, 24 May 2008
(UTC)

::You guys do realize giratina can learn fly? [[User:Atomix26|Atomix26]] 14:51, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

::: also go to [http://www.ani.tv/pokemon/] I saw the website in an ad for the 11 movie! [[User:Atomix26|Atomix26]] 16:18, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

:::: also [http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/] and [http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/skyforme/index.html] [[User:Atomix26|Atomix26]] 16:31, 19 June 2008 (UTC) I consider to have proved the sky form and I want kudos!

==== ???? ====
UHM...Am i the only person who sees something a bit WRONG with that image? 0___0 Cos its coming up as porn on my computer... Not that i don't mind porn but still...wtf? [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 10:42, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm, wait, let me see. Could be a virus. Does anything else turn up as porn? {{ani|493}} click on the image that appears when you click the Arceus. Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:58 25 May 2008'''''
::Nothing else is coming up as porn :\ Or coming up as anything it isn't/shouldn't be |: [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 11:01, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Damn. I'm scarred for life. Someone tell me why I keep running into porn on Bulbapedia? Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:03 25 May 2008'''''

:I checked the history and even tried to cut'n'paste on the link...the pic is ''not'' coming up as porn for me. Maybe someone switched it back? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:00, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

=== PK Does It Again ===

Its Fake. Read This:http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml ''[[User:David aipom|David]]
{{p|aipom|''Aipom
}}[[User talk:David aipom|♫]]
:that just says that particular image is fake, and a sky form(e) could still be in existance (or beta) '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 10:38, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I no, I hope its real and that it looks like this picture because i love its tail. ''[[User:David aipom|David]]
{{p|aipom|''Aipom
}}[[User talk:David aipom|♫]]

OMG David aipom are you that dumb. PK made it it is fake. It is not real. [[User:Crystallucario|~'''Crystal''']][[User talk:Crystallucario|~'''Lucario~''']]

I NO ITS FAKE. I meant the Sky Forme. I just hope it looks like that! ''[[User:David aipom|David]]
{{p|aipom|''Aipom
}}[[User talk:David aipom|♫]]
:You spelled '''know''' wrong. And I hope that it looks like a ''slightly'' altered version of that above'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 13:12, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
::I don't like having a fool made out of me we have all been had--lord mada 16:07, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Heh. PK's fakes are annoyingly good. Hope the real Sky Form(e) looks that good. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 16:19, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
:Agreed. And the dude responsible congratulated Bulbanews on not jumping on this story... doesn't that make you guys feel warm and fuzzy? --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 19:32, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
::I think this is funny LOL xD '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 22:13, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
:::I knew it. (A 'flying' Regigigas form was also reported. I BET it's fake!) I mean, hedgehogs can't change shape, right? Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''08:03 25 May 2008'''''
::::Nope. Of course, neither can ghost-dragons. [[Giratina (Pokémon)|OH, WAIT]]. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 09:53, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:Dragons were based on Serpents. Origine Forme lookse like ae serpente. Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:02 25 May 2008'''''

== shaymin's alternate form?? ==

well hello i'm new but i found this link that someone made an alternate form of shaymin to fool people [http://purplekecleon.deviantart.com/art/Shaymin-Sky-Forme-86526449 so take a look at this]

plus [http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml some news from serebii]
& [http://serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=322086&page=12 from the forums in serebii]

however this shaymin sky forme thing could be a massive hoax as serebii said so if you know it, you might as well [http://lexyeevee.livejournal.com/289857.html a look at this also] [[User:Harith.DS|Harith.DS]] 10:14, 25 May 2008 (UTC)Harith.DS
:Debated above. It already has been considered fake. Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:19 25 May 2008'''''

:The picture was a fake, but the fact that a sky form exists is true. [[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 12:05, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
::Is ''likely'' to be true'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 13:12, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:::I don't see why you love to assume, Shiny Noctowl. For now, as no OFFICIAL evidence is provided, we have to consider it fake. Although the Flying Regigigas idea was terrible too. It's Da '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''05:49 26 May 2008''''' 05:49, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

It's nice that Shaymin has a Sky Form, though I fear what Regigigas may look like in its alternate form... [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 23:06, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

== Another possible form for Shaymin ==

http://www.serebii.net/shayminsky2.jpg

this is an image of what look like some kind of Shaymin form. it was originally a small image so it is pixelated it looks like it has marijuana on its head? found on http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml --lord mada 15:04, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Is that really Shaymin's alternate form? O_o [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 15:31, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:: We don't know yet but it looks abit like an Eevee evolution crossed with a Snover.[[User:David aipom|Davidaipom]] 15:33, 6 June 2008 (UTC)♂

Chances are that I'm jumping to conclusions, but could that be a Fifth Gen? (Because it looks nothing like Shaymin unless there's a better picture of that Pokémon, and if it has green eyes, THEN it's Shaymin.) [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 15:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

::It doesn't look like a Shymin to me...--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 15:42, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:::looks angry, whatever he, she, or it is. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 15:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I repeat the question: Could that be a new Pokémon? [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 15:47, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:It possibly is. It looks NOTHING like any Shaymin.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 15:48, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

::Not "nothing". --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 17:34, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

And now, question two: if that ''really'' is a new Pokémon, does it mean Game Freak still has a few ideas up its sleeve? [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 16:14, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:Oh! Not just a few. They have a lot! They still have many, many game version titles in their trademark!--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 16:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Is it possible they'll reach 1000? [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 16:22, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
:This is NOT a New Pokémon! They have not even revealed the entire Generation IV, what would make them to start the fifth Generation? There's not even a scheduled successor for the DS. Like it or not, IT'S SHAYMIN. - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 16:25, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
::The Pokemon company is more than likely to keep on going. They are getting so much money, why would they stop? Am I right?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 16:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

-__- I'm not going to go there... Let's hope an administrator comes by and see what he (or she) says about this. [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 16:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
::Just because they are admins, that doesn't mean they'll know what it is...THey'll just give their own opinion which is no different than our's.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 16:36, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

In that case, we're sitting Psyduck... -__- [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 16:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:At the unpredicatability rate we're going, that "thing" (if real) will probably be on [[Brock]]'s team by the [[Giratina and the Sky's Bouquet: Shaymin|11th movie]]. Granted, odds are better for the current teams of all of the main characters save {{TP|Ash|Pikachu}} and {{MTR}} having reached their final evolutionary forms by that point in time than that mystery creature ending up on Brock's team...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:That still doesn't explain what it is.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 16:53, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I doubt it's Shaymin somewhat, since Shaymin's head is connected to it's body without a neck to seperate. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 16:55, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:I agree, but if it is a Shaymin, it is a different form of it, which would explain why it has a neck. And is that a rose on its back?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 16:58, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I think you might be on to something. If only they had a better picture! [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:07, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:DOes anyone have a program where they can blow up the picture without losing any resolution?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
:I was Zooming into the picture and pixelating the picture as I went to take a closer look. Now I KNOW 90% that it is NOT a Shaymin! It has Yellow years and two huge antlers. Could it be the pre-evolutional form of Stantler?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

WHAAAAAAAAAAT?! A new Pokémon?! [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:And the thing that looks like a rose appears to be its TAIL. IT HAS CHRISTMAS COLORS!!!It all makes sense!--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:35, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

By the way, Platinum is coming out this fall in Japan. (The successor to Diamond and Pearl.)[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, not surprising. I knew about it even before CoroCoro released it. THis Pokemon MUST be a Gen V!--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

::''Platinum'' is not Gen V. Besides, it looks like Leafeon with a way wrong color scheme. It's clear another artist drew those Pokémon. Pikacku even looks off... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:06, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Mother of Palkia! I can't believe this! [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:We know Platinum is not Gen V. BlueJirachi was just mentioning it...And BlueJirachi, You gotta believe it, cause this is reality!--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 18:12, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

''(Jaw hangs open)'' This is just like Munchlax in [[Destiny Deoxys]]! [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 18:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
:Since this isn't Shaymin, we're moving this Pokemon's talk page to mine.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 18:19, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

And here's this sticker that was found.
http://blog-imgs-19.fc2.com/r/a/i/raim2005/img080607.jpg
This is looking a lot more legit than the other disaster. Toastypk 07:50, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:And no, it is not the Munchlax. Please, people. Deoxys was known far and wide in that exact movie. Arceus? He's too busy killing whatever you idiots made up. For the last time, IT IS NOT REAL SO STOP BITCHING ABOUT THIS 'CUP'. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''08:03 7 Jun 2008'''''

http://www.serebii.net/shayminsky3.jpg

more yet evidence.however unconfirmed source for this image of Shaymin found on http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml --lord mada 11:32, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

The CUP is not fake, but I think this sticker is. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 15:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

http://www.serebii.net/shayminsky4.jpg
http://pokemon-safari.com/sitio/noticias/data/upimages/reconstruccion.png

OK we can't deny it now. The first image was posted On a Japanese Blog blue skY obtained images of some badges set for release at the end of the month to promote the 11th movie. The second image is a reconstruction done by PoKeSaFaRi who I'm sure we all thank very much. --lord mada 09:30, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

*frowns* Why does it have wings on only one side? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:I'm sure will see when the film is released and we see it in flight --lord mada 11:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
::So can we finally add this to Shaymin's page? I'd do it myself, but of course the article is locked preventing info from being added to it, except by a few people. Also someone on deviantart made a really neat sky form sprite, I'm going to see what he thinks of bulbapedia using it. Toastypk 17:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

well it was confirmed on serebii that this is a confirmed sky forme of shaymin and it is grass/flying

== Sky Forme is a fake ==

Not sure if any of you guys have seen this page, but it was all a hoax. Sky Forme and all.

[http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Shaymin Hoax History] NSFW. Well, one image is, but the rest of the site you might not enjoy.

Good news is that that might be a new Poke'mon on the cup.
:That version of the Sky Forme is fake, yes, but as far as the cup goes, no, I don't think it's some Gen V Pokémon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::New Generation=New console. We don't even have a new console (DS LITE IS NOT COUNTED. IT FUNCTIONS EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE ORIGNAL DS) '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''07:58 7 Jun 2008'''''

:::The unknown Pokémon shown on the cup is Sky Forme Shaymin. The cup image was posted on an official web site and subsequently removed. There is a trademark registered for both "Sky Forme" and "Land Forme", and as of now, the original Shaymin is officially known as Land Forme. Sky Forme's announcement is imminent, but due to an error, we've already seen a glimpse of it on said cup.

:::The latest image is most likely real, as well. If nothing more, it gives us a better idea of what Sky Forme looks like in the previous image. Anyone who thinks this is a new Pokémon is fooling themselves. [[User talk:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 08:54, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::So there is a Sky Forme...Hmm, I never thought it was an official site. Is it? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:02 7 Jun 2008'''''
:::::It is. [http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1484/skyformehe6.png Here] is a screenshot of the page that was available to be viewed yesterday, only to be brought down since then. [[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 09:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Thank you for sharing your wisdom with me. Now...put it on Shaymin's page? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:19 7 Jun 2008'''''
:::::::I have added a trivia paragraph explaining the meaning of "Land Forme" and "Sky Forme". The images should be dealt by Bulbanews for the time being. [[User talk:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 10:54, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::: You may wish to reword that paragraph. It reads like speculation. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::::: I don't see how it does. The facts are stated without confusing the present with the future. --[[User talk:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 07:13, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::: Have another look at the 'it seems evident' bit. It just screams 'this is an opinion'. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

It has green eyes. Shaymin has green eyes. [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 13:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::I see you gave in --lord mada 14:15, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I didn't mean that. I just pointed it out. But is that really a rose on its back, because now I'm all screwed up. [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 14:18, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:I meant [[User talk:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] gave in not you. I'm not really sure if it is a rose or wings or whatever it is but we will see one the film comes out won't we. --lord mada 14:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh. If it is wings, then those are the oddest-looking wings I've ever seen.[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 14:45, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:{{p|tropius}} --lord mada 15:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Then wouldn't that make Shaymin a Grass-Flying Pokémon? [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 15:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:No what I'm saying is tropius' wings are odd-looking too --lord mada 15:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:It might, but that'd be very unusual. It might be Grass-type with Levitate ability, which would be more reasonable. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 15:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
I think it will just be a grass type with a different forme, same ability and a slightly different move set and the forme will return to land forme when traded with d/p but if they change the ability it could cause problems for D/P but changing the move set wont be a problem for the previous games to handle --lord mada 15:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
::Have you had Deoxys battles in Gen III? They're totally safe despite Deoxys has totally different base stats in every game (only the sprites are a bit annoying). I think this won't be the exception. How do you know? Maybe the game engine has been developed to ensure compatibility even if the same Pokémon has a different ability in another version of the game (or even different type combination). '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 22:13, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

If there was a sprite for sky forme in D/P we would know. Like we know about {{p|Arceus}}' ??? forme it would be in D/P game data in the game data. OK I think I'm possibly wrong about the ability --lord mada 22:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:Have you ever considered it is just like Deoxys? There are different forms depending on which version the Pokémon is in. Giritina will probably go through this. As will the "supposed" Sky Forme of Shaymin.[[User:GJPal|GJ]] 23:08, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I've considered it now and I agree --lord mada 23:09, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

== So can we finally unlock this? ==

There is so much confirmed information I (and I'm sure others) want to add, but the article is locked. This isn't a rumor anymore.

-Pictures of Sky form (scan, sprite) 
-Height and Weight

Among other bits of info. Toastypk 17:15, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
:Also Sugimori art and anime art. tc26 23:28, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Shaymin Sky Form: [[Image:ShayminSky.png]]

:Do you have a cleaned-up version of Sky Form Shaymin's sprite? --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 17:53, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

:We probably won't have that until someone gets their hands on the game. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 21:46, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::We have Giratina's Platinum sprite, and it was also just extracted from a CoroCoro page. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 23:51, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:I have a cleaned up sprite. [[User:GanLnkZld|- GanLnkZld]] 7:42, 17 June 2008(UTC)
::upload it then call it "Spr 4p 492.png" --lord mada 14:56, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I did that, but it didn't show up on the Shaymin page. And you can't edit anything on that page which totally sucks. Also, I'm pretty new here; is there an administrator that can help put it up? [[User:GanLnkZld|- GanLnkZld]] 16:23, 17 June 2008(UTC)
::::Nothing you can edit on this page can solve that problem. Check the page again tomorrow. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 16:39, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Now wait, is it the real sprite or is it a custom sprite? I just saw what you uploaded to the archives. That is a terrible quality and it is unacceptable. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 16:58, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:Sheimi battle Platinum.png|right|source of sprite]]
:It may not be a brilliant extract from the image we have but it is real and we aren't getting the sprite properly until the game comes out. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:35, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::Then we shouldn't have it at all. Period. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 17:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:::We need it, it's just temporary for now and once the game comes out we'll get its crisp, beautifully-rendered form, but until then this crappy screenshot which isn't full size is all we're gonna get. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I agree. it's nicer looking than a broken link anyway --lord mada 17:54, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Is this the picture you saw, because I uploaded two. One of them was very crappy. This is the better one. [[User:GanLnkZld|- GanLnkZld]] 19:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[[Image:Shaymin_Sky_Sprite_2.png]]
:I don't get it. Why is Archives being an ass as far as interwiki image updates go? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:04, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
So I ask again. Can we finally unlock this? Toastypk 19:56, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

== OH NO! ==

hey! remove that sprite of Shaiymin please!! it looks soooo crapy... a sprite should be in good quality to be uploaded, like Giratina's. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 02:45, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:I have to agree...I'm sure we can wait for a screenshot of correct resolution instead of improvising that...thing.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:41, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::Sorry. I'm the one that uploaded that piece of crap. For some reason, every time I upload a new version of that image it always changes back to the first version for a day or two, then it changes to the new one. Maybe it's because the article is protected. Anyways, it should fix itself pretty soon. This is what it should look like: [[Image:Shaymin_Sky_Form_Image.png‎]][[User:GanLnkZld|GanLnkZld]] 18:26, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

1 question, do we need the event for shaymin in Pokémon Platinum?
--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 10:04, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
:I question: Could one get Jirachi or Deoxys in Emerald without the event? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:59 5 Jul 2008'''''

== Glacidia's Flower ==

Look at [http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml this]! Looks like Land Forme isn't exclusive to Diamond and Pearl anymore! Blazevoir 21:40, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
:I know but it's not that confirmed.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 21:55, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
I trust that site and would like it to be true, but yeah CoolPikachu is right. I think it is though.-Rabla

== Height and Weight ==

Although I can't read Japanese at all, I am guessing by [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/platinum/hotnews/01.html this trusted site] that Sky Forme weighs 5.2 kg and is 0.4 m tall. Someone should probably update the page. Also under the gold arrow I think it has some information about trading Shaymin to Platinum from Diamond and Pearl. I am just guessing this by the box art. -- [[User:23-03-33]] 04:20, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
:Updated. No idea what's up with the trading. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:58, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

== Art in the infobox ==

I know with Deoxys we do the "standard forme" thing... but we have Wormadam with all three of her coats, same with Burmy, and Shellos and Gastrodon in both West and East Sea variations. I know that's how the Sugimori art came, but why the heck not combine the images into one, then put it in the infobox? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:42, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
:Hm? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:09, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

We'll see--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:14, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
:Anyone got a better answer? Like, an opinion? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:17, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
::I think it's better to have all forms on the infobox. Well, at least for every Pokémon with multiple forms excepting Arceus (because 17 forms is excesive LOL). '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 23:47, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
:::If you're able to combine the artworks... - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] 23:48, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Yes, I'll do it... but I'm not at home now xD '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 23:57, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

==Base stats?==
Do we know ANY of Shaymin sky forme's base stats yet? And can we list it's base HP the same as shaymins? Because in those pictures depicting the glacedia's flower, youcan see that the level 50 shaymin's HP stayed the same upon changing formes. [[User:SLE_aman|SLE_aman]]
:Best thing to do is wait. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

== Cry ==

Okay, the game's not out yet, and while the "tweet tweet tweet" would sound odd coming from Mr. Badass over here... do we have ''proof'' that it'll change? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:40, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
:Believe me. I think it will sound weird too, but I first thought Deoxys' cry was more aggressive before I heard it, but it was not changed anyways. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 05:37, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

== Sprites ==
In the platinum sprites, it shows shaymin's sky forme, shouldn't it also show shaymin's platinum land forme? We have bidoof's platinum sprite, so why not shaymin? (BTW, I mentioned bidoof because they appear in the same screenshot) [[User:SLE_aman|SLE_aman]]
:Well... actually I was thinking we should ''really'' be waiting for the Pt-animated sprites. They're supposed to be better than DP's, and the third version always gets .gifs anyway. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:19, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
::But, for this we may need the sky back sprite too. [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]]
:::Also, who got the idea for shaymin's sky forme's shiny forme? I don't think that should be there, who's to say that the flower pedal, wing things won't be changed in color? [[User:SLE_aman|SLE_aman]]

Talk:Shaymin (Pokémon)/Archive 2

2008-08-06T07:51:41Z

SLE aman:

Talk:Shaymin (Pokémon)/Archive 2

2008-07-15T13:33:29Z

SLE aman:

== Previous discussions ==
* [[Talk:Shaymin (Pokémon)/Archive 1|Archive]]

== Sky Form Image? ==
Posted by 2/4chan apparantly. --[[User:Jennyrogue|JennyRogue]]
:...ew. It's pretty much just skinnier with longer limbs. Like when you hack Pikachu in Brawl to have Ganondorf's moves.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:08, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::I can't see the image because i'm at school but i saw a picture of it before i left home this morning (I think there the same picture so yeah), too be honest, i actually like it (: Sky form = Cool. Normal form = Cute. Well, the sky form looks sorta bad-ass too me actually (: [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 07:44, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Congratulations! Your Shaymin evolved into some Eevee thingy. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:31, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::xD [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 09:11, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::: It looks.......... Ok..... *Shoots Ken Sugimori*, But it's not that bad. --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 09:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:WHAT? Just as I was going against this 'Sky Form'...Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:44 23 May 2008'''''
::::::Its not to bad. Leafeon with more leaves and a flower and more white. yea not bad although I want to see what the sprite will be.--lord mada 15:26, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Looks Lisa-Frank like. Or like some Mary-Sue's pet. Ugh. I don't think I like this form one bit. :| [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|☆]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 16:23, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I think it's beautiful. you all probably didn't like it cause it changed from cute to mature and older-looking'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 17:40, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Of course, since I'm the stereotypical girl who only likes "ZOMG ADORABLE! ^____________^;" things and always makes her fanfiction characters start out with Eevee and Shaymin. Yeah, kill me for having my opinion. :| [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|☆]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 18:24, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::I'm not a big judger IN A NEGATIVE WAY like SOME PEOPLE  :)'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 18:58, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::I think it's still cute.^__^ '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 19:13, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::oo a girl that's different, that's cool :D'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 19:14, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::It looks like a goat with wings.......[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|C is for Cookie]] 19:16, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::How can you saw that???!!! It's adorable!!!!! '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 19:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

i wish i had a flying goat...{{u|Garrison12795}}

Wow It looks Like Shaymin Bred With Leafeon. I dont get it hows it Sky Form/e. I doesnt look like it can fly, but who knows because {{p|Ekans}} Can swim!!!''[[User:David aipom|David]]
''Aipom

:Well duh snakes can swim. It has wings, but not exactly the aerodymanics to fly'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 20:22, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

They look like leafs and i didnt expect all snakes to swim.''[[User:David aipom|David]]
''Aipom

:What do you think the wings are supposed to look like for a pure grass-type? and yes all snakes can swim'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 20:31, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::It's pretty obvious that this Shaymin is not pure Grass-type. It's Grass/Flying much like {{p|Tropius}} but Tropius' wings DO look like wings. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 21:05, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Hey, flyon and giratina have wings and are not of the flying type. If Shaymin does change forme, this will be the first time a Pokémon's type would be changed (excluding Arceus, but the whole point of Arceus's different formes is to have different types)'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 21:15, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::*You forgot that {{p|Castform}} also changes its form and it's type.
::::*{{p|Flygon}} has Levitate because it can't have 3 types (Dragon/Ground/Flying).
::::*We don't know if the Origin Forme will have a different ability.

::::With that in mind it's still possible that Shaymin will be part Flying type, as it's name is "Sky Form(e)". If it ain't Flying type, then it will have Levitate as ability. If not, the name won't be justifying why is it different than the Shaymin we all know. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 21:49, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::You know, it's Sky Forme, not Flying Forme. Just because the sky is up in the air doesn't mean it has anything to do with flying-types. Flygon has wings, and can fly, and it's a part ground type. The type can be completely unpredictable'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 21:53, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::I'm just saying that Giratina has wings, not flying type. Flygon too, and it's a ground type, yet it has wings. Castform change is forme is basically because of for the type-change, similar to Arceus'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 21:55, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::No Pokémon that live in the sky is not part Flying or has levitate as Ability. I know you think of Giratina, but he lives in the reverse world where there's no sky nor ground. I think it's better to wait what does Platinum tell us (or at least the Giratina's movie). '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 22:00, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I wasn't thinking of Giratina, I'm thinking of Flygon. LOOK, I just think that Shaymin won't change type. Therefore I think it will have Levitate. HEY I HAVE NEVER PLAYED A MAIN SERIES POKéMON GAME IN MY LIFE'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 22:08, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't see why you try to make me feel stupid, I've never told ya it won't have levitate. I already said that ALL Pokémon, excluding Giratina, '''that can fly''' are part Flying-type '''''OR''''' have Levitate as ability.
I get your point that Flygon is Ground/Dragon and has wings, but it still flies and has Levitate. I know that maybe Shaymin will have Levitate and I already said that. And finally, if I'm a new user here that doesn't mean that I'm stupid or I know nothing. I did not offend you so you don't offend me, right? '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 22:20, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Look @ the tail! It could be used as a propeller!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:14, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:You do all realize that this is fake, right? [http://lexyeevee.livejournal.com/289857.html] --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:24, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

We hadn't seen the news so NO! But who is covering this over @ Bulbanews?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 01:47, 24 May 2008
(UTC)

::You guys do realize giratina can learn fly? [[User:Atomix26|Atomix26]] 14:51, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

::: also go to [http://www.ani.tv/pokemon/] I saw the website in an ad for the 11 movie! [[User:Atomix26|Atomix26]] 16:18, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

:::: also [http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/] and [http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/skyforme/index.html] [[User:Atomix26|Atomix26]] 16:31, 19 June 2008 (UTC) I consider to have proved the sky form and I want kudos!

==== ???? ====
UHM...Am i the only person who sees something a bit WRONG with that image? 0___0 Cos its coming up as porn on my computer... Not that i don't mind porn but still...wtf? [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 10:42, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm, wait, let me see. Could be a virus. Does anything else turn up as porn? {{ani|493}} click on the image that appears when you click the Arceus. Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:58 25 May 2008'''''
::Nothing else is coming up as porn :\ Or coming up as anything it isn't/shouldn't be |: [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 11:01, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Damn. I'm scarred for life. Someone tell me why I keep running into porn on Bulbapedia? Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:03 25 May 2008'''''

:I checked the history and even tried to cut'n'paste on the link...the pic is ''not'' coming up as porn for me. Maybe someone switched it back? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:00, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

=== PK Does It Again ===

Its Fake. Read This:http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml ''[[User:David aipom|David]]
{{p|aipom|''Aipom
}}[[User talk:David aipom|♫]]
:that just says that particular image is fake, and a sky form(e) could still be in existance (or beta) '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 10:38, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I no, I hope its real and that it looks like this picture because i love its tail. ''[[User:David aipom|David]]
{{p|aipom|''Aipom
}}[[User talk:David aipom|♫]]

OMG David aipom are you that dumb. PK made it it is fake. It is not real. [[User:Crystallucario|~'''Crystal''']][[User talk:Crystallucario|~'''Lucario~''']]

I NO ITS FAKE. I meant the Sky Forme. I just hope it looks like that! ''[[User:David aipom|David]]
{{p|aipom|''Aipom
}}[[User talk:David aipom|♫]]
:You spelled '''know''' wrong. And I hope that it looks like a ''slightly'' altered version of that above'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 13:12, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
::I don't like having a fool made out of me we have all been had--lord mada 16:07, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Heh. PK's fakes are annoyingly good. Hope the real Sky Form(e) looks that good. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 16:19, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
:Agreed. And the dude responsible congratulated Bulbanews on not jumping on this story... doesn't that make you guys feel warm and fuzzy? --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 19:32, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
::I think this is funny LOL xD '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 22:13, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
:::I knew it. (A 'flying' Regigigas form was also reported. I BET it's fake!) I mean, hedgehogs can't change shape, right? Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''08:03 25 May 2008'''''
::::Nope. Of course, neither can ghost-dragons. [[Giratina (Pokémon)|OH, WAIT]]. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 09:53, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:Dragons were based on Serpents. Origine Forme lookse like ae serpente. Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:02 25 May 2008'''''

== shaymin's alternate form?? ==

well hello i'm new but i found this link that someone made an alternate form of shaymin to fool people [http://purplekecleon.deviantart.com/art/Shaymin-Sky-Forme-86526449 so take a look at this]

plus [http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml some news from serebii]
& [http://serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=322086&page=12 from the forums in serebii]

however this shaymin sky forme thing could be a massive hoax as serebii said so if you know it, you might as well [http://lexyeevee.livejournal.com/289857.html a look at this also] [[User:Harith.DS|Harith.DS]] 10:14, 25 May 2008 (UTC)Harith.DS
:Debated above. It already has been considered fake. Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:19 25 May 2008'''''

:The picture was a fake, but the fact that a sky form exists is true. [[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 12:05, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
::Is ''likely'' to be true'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Special:Random|102]]''' 13:12, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:::I don't see why you love to assume, Shiny Noctowl. For now, as no OFFICIAL evidence is provided, we have to consider it fake. Although the Flying Regigigas idea was terrible too. It's Da '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''05:49 26 May 2008''''' 05:49, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

It's nice that Shaymin has a Sky Form, though I fear what Regigigas may look like in its alternate form... [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 23:06, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

== Another possible form for Shaymin ==

http://www.serebii.net/shayminsky2.jpg

this is an image of what look like some kind of Shaymin form. it was originally a small image so it is pixelated it looks like it has marijuana on its head? found on http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml --lord mada 15:04, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Is that really Shaymin's alternate form? O_o [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 15:31, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:: We don't know yet but it looks abit like an Eevee evolution crossed with a Snover.[[User:David aipom|Davidaipom]] 15:33, 6 June 2008 (UTC)♂

Chances are that I'm jumping to conclusions, but could that be a Fifth Gen? (Because it looks nothing like Shaymin unless there's a better picture of that Pokémon, and if it has green eyes, THEN it's Shaymin.) [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 15:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

::It doesn't look like a Shymin to me...--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 15:42, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:::looks angry, whatever he, she, or it is. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 15:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I repeat the question: Could that be a new Pokémon? [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 15:47, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:It possibly is. It looks NOTHING like any Shaymin.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 15:48, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

::Not "nothing". --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 17:34, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

And now, question two: if that ''really'' is a new Pokémon, does it mean Game Freak still has a few ideas up its sleeve? [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 16:14, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:Oh! Not just a few. They have a lot! They still have many, many game version titles in their trademark!--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 16:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Is it possible they'll reach 1000? [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 16:22, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
:This is NOT a New Pokémon! They have not even revealed the entire Generation IV, what would make them to start the fifth Generation? There's not even a scheduled successor for the DS. Like it or not, IT'S SHAYMIN. - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 16:25, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
::The Pokemon company is more than likely to keep on going. They are getting so much money, why would they stop? Am I right?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 16:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

-__- I'm not going to go there... Let's hope an administrator comes by and see what he (or she) says about this. [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 16:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
::Just because they are admins, that doesn't mean they'll know what it is...THey'll just give their own opinion which is no different than our's.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 16:36, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

In that case, we're sitting Psyduck... -__- [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 16:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:At the unpredicatability rate we're going, that "thing" (if real) will probably be on [[Brock]]'s team by the [[Giratina and the Sky's Bouquet: Shaymin|11th movie]]. Granted, odds are better for the current teams of all of the main characters save {{TP|Ash|Pikachu}} and {{MTR}} having reached their final evolutionary forms by that point in time than that mystery creature ending up on Brock's team...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:That still doesn't explain what it is.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 16:53, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I doubt it's Shaymin somewhat, since Shaymin's head is connected to it's body without a neck to seperate. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 16:55, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:I agree, but if it is a Shaymin, it is a different form of it, which would explain why it has a neck. And is that a rose on its back?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 16:58, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I think you might be on to something. If only they had a better picture! [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:07, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:DOes anyone have a program where they can blow up the picture without losing any resolution?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
:I was Zooming into the picture and pixelating the picture as I went to take a closer look. Now I KNOW 90% that it is NOT a Shaymin! It has Yellow years and two huge antlers. Could it be the pre-evolutional form of Stantler?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

WHAAAAAAAAAAT?! A new Pokémon?! [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:And the thing that looks like a rose appears to be its TAIL. IT HAS CHRISTMAS COLORS!!!It all makes sense!--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:35, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

By the way, Platinum is coming out this fall in Japan. (The successor to Diamond and Pearl.)[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, not surprising. I knew about it even before CoroCoro released it. THis Pokemon MUST be a Gen V!--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

::''Platinum'' is not Gen V. Besides, it looks like Leafeon with a way wrong color scheme. It's clear another artist drew those Pokémon. Pikacku even looks off... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:06, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Mother of Palkia! I can't believe this! [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 17:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:We know Platinum is not Gen V. BlueJirachi was just mentioning it...And BlueJirachi, You gotta believe it, cause this is reality!--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 18:12, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

''(Jaw hangs open)'' This is just like Munchlax in [[Destiny Deoxys]]! [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 18:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
:Since this isn't Shaymin, we're moving this Pokemon's talk page to mine.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 18:19, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

And here's this sticker that was found.
http://blog-imgs-19.fc2.com/r/a/i/raim2005/img080607.jpg
This is looking a lot more legit than the other disaster. Toastypk 07:50, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:And no, it is not the Munchlax. Please, people. Deoxys was known far and wide in that exact movie. Arceus? He's too busy killing whatever you idiots made up. For the last time, IT IS NOT REAL SO STOP BITCHING ABOUT THIS 'CUP'. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''08:03 7 Jun 2008'''''

http://www.serebii.net/shayminsky3.jpg

more yet evidence.however unconfirmed source for this image of Shaymin found on http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml --lord mada 11:32, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

The CUP is not fake, but I think this sticker is. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 15:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

http://www.serebii.net/shayminsky4.jpg
http://pokemon-safari.com/sitio/noticias/data/upimages/reconstruccion.png

OK we can't deny it now. The first image was posted On a Japanese Blog blue skY obtained images of some badges set for release at the end of the month to promote the 11th movie. The second image is a reconstruction done by PoKeSaFaRi who I'm sure we all thank very much. --lord mada 09:30, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

*frowns* Why does it have wings on only one side? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:I'm sure will see when the film is released and we see it in flight --lord mada 11:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
::So can we finally add this to Shaymin's page? I'd do it myself, but of course the article is locked preventing info from being added to it, except by a few people. Also someone on deviantart made a really neat sky form sprite, I'm going to see what he thinks of bulbapedia using it. Toastypk 17:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

well it was confirmed on serebii that this is a confirmed sky forme of shaymin and it is grass/flying

== Sky Forme is a fake ==

Not sure if any of you guys have seen this page, but it was all a hoax. Sky Forme and all.

[http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Shaymin Hoax History] NSFW. Well, one image is, but the rest of the site you might not enjoy.

Good news is that that might be a new Poke'mon on the cup.
:That version of the Sky Forme is fake, yes, but as far as the cup goes, no, I don't think it's some Gen V Pokémon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::New Generation=New console. We don't even have a new console (DS LITE IS NOT COUNTED. IT FUNCTIONS EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE ORIGNAL DS) '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''07:58 7 Jun 2008'''''

:::The unknown Pokémon shown on the cup is Sky Forme Shaymin. The cup image was posted on an official web site and subsequently removed. There is a trademark registered for both "Sky Forme" and "Land Forme", and as of now, the original Shaymin is officially known as Land Forme. Sky Forme's announcement is imminent, but due to an error, we've already seen a glimpse of it on said cup.

:::The latest image is most likely real, as well. If nothing more, it gives us a better idea of what Sky Forme looks like in the previous image. Anyone who thinks this is a new Pokémon is fooling themselves. [[User talk:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 08:54, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::So there is a Sky Forme...Hmm, I never thought it was an official site. Is it? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:02 7 Jun 2008'''''
:::::It is. [http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1484/skyformehe6.png Here] is a screenshot of the page that was available to be viewed yesterday, only to be brought down since then. [[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 09:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Thank you for sharing your wisdom with me. Now...put it on Shaymin's page? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:19 7 Jun 2008'''''
:::::::I have added a trivia paragraph explaining the meaning of "Land Forme" and "Sky Forme". The images should be dealt by Bulbanews for the time being. [[User talk:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 10:54, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::: You may wish to reword that paragraph. It reads like speculation. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::::: I don't see how it does. The facts are stated without confusing the present with the future. --[[User talk:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 07:13, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::: Have another look at the 'it seems evident' bit. It just screams 'this is an opinion'. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

It has green eyes. Shaymin has green eyes. [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 13:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::I see you gave in --lord mada 14:15, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I didn't mean that. I just pointed it out. But is that really a rose on its back, because now I'm all screwed up. [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 14:18, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:I meant [[User talk:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] gave in not you. I'm not really sure if it is a rose or wings or whatever it is but we will see one the film comes out won't we. --lord mada 14:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh. If it is wings, then those are the oddest-looking wings I've ever seen.[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 14:45, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:{{p|tropius}} --lord mada 15:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Then wouldn't that make Shaymin a Grass-Flying Pokémon? [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 15:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:No what I'm saying is tropius' wings are odd-looking too --lord mada 15:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:It might, but that'd be very unusual. It might be Grass-type with Levitate ability, which would be more reasonable. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 15:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
I think it will just be a grass type with a different forme, same ability and a slightly different move set and the forme will return to land forme when traded with d/p but if they change the ability it could cause problems for D/P but changing the move set wont be a problem for the previous games to handle --lord mada 15:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
::Have you had Deoxys battles in Gen III? They're totally safe despite Deoxys has totally different base stats in every game (only the sprites are a bit annoying). I think this won't be the exception. How do you know? Maybe the game engine has been developed to ensure compatibility even if the same Pokémon has a different ability in another version of the game (or even different type combination). '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 22:13, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

If there was a sprite for sky forme in D/P we would know. Like we know about {{p|Arceus}}' ??? forme it would be in D/P game data in the game data. OK I think I'm possibly wrong about the ability --lord mada 22:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:Have you ever considered it is just like Deoxys? There are different forms depending on which version the Pokémon is in. Giritina will probably go through this. As will the "supposed" Sky Forme of Shaymin.[[User:GJPal|GJ]] 23:08, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I've considered it now and I agree --lord mada 23:09, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

== So can we finally unlock this? ==

There is so much confirmed information I (and I'm sure others) want to add, but the article is locked. This isn't a rumor anymore.

-Pictures of Sky form (scan, sprite) 
-Height and Weight

Among other bits of info. Toastypk 17:15, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
:Also Sugimori art and anime art. tc26 23:28, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Shaymin Sky Form: [[Image:ShayminSky.png]]

:Do you have a cleaned-up version of Sky Form Shaymin's sprite? --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 17:53, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

:We probably won't have that until someone gets their hands on the game. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 21:46, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::We have Giratina's Platinum sprite, and it was also just extracted from a CoroCoro page. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 23:51, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:I have a cleaned up sprite. [[User:GanLnkZld|- GanLnkZld]] 7:42, 17 June 2008(UTC)
::upload it then call it "Spr 4p 492.png" --lord mada 14:56, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I did that, but it didn't show up on the Shaymin page. And you can't edit anything on that page which totally sucks. Also, I'm pretty new here; is there an administrator that can help put it up? [[User:GanLnkZld|- GanLnkZld]] 16:23, 17 June 2008(UTC)
::::Nothing you can edit on this page can solve that problem. Check the page again tomorrow. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 16:39, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Now wait, is it the real sprite or is it a custom sprite? I just saw what you uploaded to the archives. That is a terrible quality and it is unacceptable. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 16:58, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:Sheimi battle Platinum.png|right|source of sprite]]
:It may not be a brilliant extract from the image we have but it is real and we aren't getting the sprite properly until the game comes out. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:35, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::Then we shouldn't have it at all. Period. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 17:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:::We need it, it's just temporary for now and once the game comes out we'll get its crisp, beautifully-rendered form, but until then this crappy screenshot which isn't full size is all we're gonna get. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I agree. it's nicer looking than a broken link anyway --lord mada 17:54, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Is this the picture you saw, because I uploaded two. One of them was very crappy. This is the better one. [[User:GanLnkZld|- GanLnkZld]] 19:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[[Image:Shaymin_Sky_Sprite_2.png]]
:I don't get it. Why is Archives being an ass as far as interwiki image updates go? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:04, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
So I ask again. Can we finally unlock this? Toastypk 19:56, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

== OH NO! ==

hey! remove that sprite of Shaiymin please!! it looks soooo crapy... a sprite should be in good quality to be uploaded, like Giratina's. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 02:45, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:I have to agree...I'm sure we can wait for a screenshot of correct resolution instead of improvising that...thing.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:41, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::Sorry. I'm the one that uploaded that piece of crap. For some reason, every time I upload a new version of that image it always changes back to the first version for a day or two, then it changes to the new one. Maybe it's because the article is protected. Anyways, it should fix itself pretty soon. This is what it should look like: [[Image:Shaymin_Sky_Form_Image.png‎]][[User:GanLnkZld|GanLnkZld]] 18:26, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

1 question, do we need the event for shaymin in Pokémon Platinum?
--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 10:04, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
:I question: Could one get Jirachi or Deoxys in Emerald without the event? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:59 5 Jul 2008'''''

== Glacidia's Flower ==

Look at [http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml this]! Looks like Land Forme isn't exclusive to Diamond and Pearl anymore! Blazevoir 21:40, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
:I know but it's not that confirmed.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 21:55, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
I trust that site and would like it to be true, but yeah CoolPikachu is right. I think it is though.-Rabla

== Height and Weight ==

Although I can't read Japanese at all, I am guessing by [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/platinum/hotnews/01.html this trusted site] that Sky Forme weighs 5.2 kg and is 0.4 m tall. Someone should probably update the page. Also under the gold arrow I think it has some information about trading Shaymin to Platinum from Diamond and Pearl. I am just guessing this by the box art. -- [[User:23-03-33]] 04:20, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
:Updated. No idea what's up with the trading. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:58, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

== Art in the infobox ==

I know with Deoxys we do the "standard forme" thing... but we have Wormadam with all three of her coats, same with Burmy, and Shellos and Gastrodon in both West and East Sea variations. I know that's how the Sugimori art came, but why the heck not combine the images into one, then put it in the infobox? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:42, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

==Base stats?==
Do we know ANY of Shaymin sky forme's base stats yet? And can we list it's base HP the same as shaymins? Because in those pictures depicting the glacedia's flower, youcan see that the level 50 shaymin's HP stayed the same upon changing formes.[[User:SLE_aman|SLE_aman]]

Bronzong (Pokémon)

2008-07-06T02:02:32Z

SLE aman: /* Origin */

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Bronzor | next=Bonsly }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Bronzong |
jname=ドータクン |
tmname=Dotakun |
image=Dotakun.jpg |
caption=Artwork from D/P |
ndex=437 |
sdex=089 |
adex=249 |
typen=2 |
type1=Steel |
type2=Psychic |
species=Bronze Bell |
height-ftin=4′03″ |
height-m=1.3 |
weight-lbs=412.3 |
weight-kg=187.0 |
abilityn=2 |
ability1=Levitate |
ability2=Heatproof |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Mineral |
egggroup2= |
hatchsteps=5,120 |
effortyield=1 Def, 1 SpD |
expyield=188 |
lv100exp=1,000,000 |
gender=none |
female=0 |
male=0 |
color=Green |
catchrate=90 |
body= 04|
pokefordex=? |
generation=4 |
}}
'''Bronzong''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese:]] '''ドータクン''' ''Dotakun'') is a {{2t|Steel|Psychic}}-type Pokémon.

=Biology=
==Physiology==
Bronzong is a big blue bell (Dōtaku). It has eyes at the bottom of its body, It is shallow inside of its body.
===Gender differences===
Genderless.
===Special abilities===
==Behavior==
==Habitat==
Its true area is unknown, although one was dug up at a construction site.

==Diet==
{{main|Pokémon food}}
Its diet may consist of {{wp|bronze}} and other metals.

=In the anime=
[[Image:Bronzong-anime.jpg|thumb|[[Lucian's Bronzong]]]]
[[Lucian]]'s Bronzong appeared in ''[[DP035|An Elite Meet and Greet!'']] where it gave [[Ash's Buizel|Dawn's Buizel]] its first beating. [[Lucian's Bronzong|It]] was later seen in ''[[DP040|Top-Down Training]]'' where it was defeated by [[Cynthia]]'s {{TP|Cynthia|Garchomp}}.

=In the manga=

=In the TCG=
{{main|Bronzong (TCG)}}

=Game data=
==Pokédex entries==
{{Dex
|type=steel
|gen=4
|diamonddex=One caused a news sensation when it was dug up at a construction site after a 2000-year sleep.
|pearldex=It can {{m2|Rain Dance|summon rain clouds}}. People long ago revered it as the bringer of plentiful harvests.
|}}

==Game locations==
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{steel color}};"
! Game
! [[Rarity]]
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl]]
| Common
| [[Turnback Cave]], [[Mt. Coronet]]
|}

===In side games===

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{steel color}};"
! Game
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (Time and Darkness)]]
| Evolve from {{p|Bronzor}}
|-
| [[Pokémon Ranger Batonnage]]
| [[Hippowdon Temple]]
|}

==Base stats==
{{BaseStats|
HP=67 |
Attack=89 |
Defense=116 |
SpAtk=79 |
SpDef=116 |
Speed=33 }}

==Type effectiveness==
{{DP type effectiveness|
Normal= 50 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 50 |
Poison= 0 |
Ground= 200 |
Rock= 50 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 25 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 50 |
Dark= 100 }}

Notes:
# If Bronzong has {{A|Levitate}}, the effectiveness of {{T|Ground}} will become 0×.
# If Bronzong has {{A|Heatproof}}, the effectiveness of {{T|Fire}} will become 1×.

==Learnset==
{{learnset intro|Bronzong}}
====By [[level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|steel|psychic|4|4|Bronzong}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|Previous|Tackle|Normal|Physical|35|95|35|Tough|4}}
{{mlentry4|Previous|Confusion|Psychic|Special|50|100|25|Smart|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|Previous|Hypnosis|Psychic|Status|—|70|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|Previous|Imprison|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|Previous|Confuse Ray|Ghost|Status|—|100|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|Previous|Extrasensory|Psychic|Special|80|100|30|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|Previous|Iron Defense|Steel|Status|—|—|15|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|Previous|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|100|25|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|33|Block|Normal|Status|—|—|5|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|38|Gyro Ball|Steel|Physical|—|100|5|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|43|Future Sight|Psychic|Special|90|80|15|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|50|Faint Attack|Dark|Physical|60|—|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|61|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10|Cool|1}}
{{mlentry4|67|Heal Block|Psychic|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{movelist/note|4}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|Steel|Psychic|4|4|Bronzor}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM04]]|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM16]]|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM20]]|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM22]]|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10|Cool|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM26]]|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM29]]|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM30]]|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM33]]|Reflect|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM37]]|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM39]]|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM48]]|Skill Swap|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM49]]|Snatch|Dark|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM57]]|Charge Beam|Electric|Special|50|90|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM64]]|Explosion|Normal|Physical|250|100|5|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM66]]|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10|Cool|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM67]]|Recycle|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM69]]|Rock Polish|Rock|Status|—|—|20|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM70]]|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM74]]|Gyro Ball|Steel|Physical|—|100|5|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM76]]|Stealth Rock|Rock|Status|—|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM77]]|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM80]]|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM85]]|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15|Smart|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM86]]|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM91]]|Flash Cannon|Steel|Special|80|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM92]]|Trick Room|Psychic|Status|—|—|5|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM04]]|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM06]]|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|Tough|2}}
{{movelist/note|4}}

==Side game data==

{{Side game|
type=steel |
Ranger2=yes |
typeG2= Steel |
typeA2= Steel |
field2= Crush x3 |
}}

==Evolution==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Basic |
image=436.png |
name=Bronzor }}
|{{EvoChart Box|
text=Level 33 |
image=437.png |
name=Bronzong }}
|}

==Sprites==
{{Sprite|
type=Steel|
gen=4|
gender=none|
ndex=437|
name=Bronzong|
animated=1|
}}

==Trivia==
* Despite several trainers in Diamond and Pearl having Bronzor at or above level 33, the required level for evolution into Bronzong, [[Lucian]] is the only NPC in the game to actually have a Bronzong.
* Despite being based on a bronze bell, Bronzong doesn't learn any sound-based moves. It should be noted, however, that dōtaku are purely ritualistic and are not made to function as bells.
===Origin===
Bronzong is based on a {{wp|dōtaku}}.
It also resembles Gohdan from {{wp|The_Legend_of_Zelda:_The_Wind_Waker|The legend of zelda the wind waker}}
====Name origin====
Its English name is a combination of "bronze" and "dong," as in the sound that a bell makes. Its Japanese name is a portmanteau of the words 銅鐸 ''dōtaku'', meaning bronze bell, and どんどん ''dondon'', the sound a bell  produces.
Its German name, Bronzong , comes from ''Bronze'' and ''dong''. Its French name, Archeodong, comes from ''archeo-'', Latin for "ancient", and ''dong''.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Bronzong
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Archeodong - From "archeo", Latin for "ancient", and "dong", a bell's noise.
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]:

=External links=
* [[wp:Bronzong|Article on Wikipedia]]

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Bronzor | next=Bonsly }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Genderless Pokémon]]
[[Category:Pokémon that are part of a two-stage evolutionary line]]
[[ja:ドータクン]]
[[de:Bronzong ]]
[[pt:Bronzong (pokémon)]]

Talk:Hidden Power (move)

2008-06-29T02:20:56Z

SLE aman:

==Gen II & III==
if i give my Magneton Hidden Power in Gen II & III and it's type is one of the special types (grass, fire, water, etc..) does that mean it gets based on the Sp. Atk. or is it still physical because HP is technically a Normal-type attack? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:50, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

:Let's take for instance, Hidder Power Bug. That'll be Physical, since Bug was a Physical type back in GenII and III. However, HP Ice'd be Special, since Ice is a Special type in II and III. Hope that clears up something. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 02:53, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

::not entirely. hows about, if i had HP Ice on Magneton, it would run off the Sp. Atk stat instead of attack (unlike a normal-type move) thus making it useful to me (because of Magnetons high Sp. Atk) or would it be physical because HP is technically a Normal-type attack? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:05, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

::It'd run off the Special stat, since there is no such thing as a Normal-type Hidden Power. (It really should be ???-type..) [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 03:10, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

:::well, let me see if i can make more sence. because its technically a Normal-type attack, does that make all types physical? as in, the only possible way before Gen IV to get a physical Ice or Psychic attack? or is it by the books, Electric = Sp. Fighting = Phys. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:13, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

::::No, whether the Hidden Power attacking type (Before GenIV)'d be determined by what elemental type. For example, an Ice-type Hidden Power'd be Special (since in everything but GenIV), but a Fighting-type HP'd be Physical. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 03:16, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

::::great, guess im off to breed Magnemites to get a Grass-type hidden power then! TAKE THAT QUAGSIRE!!! '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:17, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

==HP==
Hidden Power is often referred to as 'HP' by competitive battlers. However, if you search HP on Bulbapedia, you are redirected to the stats page. This could be confusing to a new player. I think maybe a disambiguation is in order, or at least a mention of it on the page. [[User:Cheesus Is Lord|Cheesus Is Lord]] 13:02, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
:How new do you have to be to not know about Hidden Power. I'll see what I can do. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:50, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

==Power?==
How do you determine Hidden power's power? [[User:SLE_aman|SLE_aman]]

Talk:Wormadam (Pokémon)

2008-06-26T03:41:58Z

SLE aman:

Since Minimadam has three different sets of moves depending on the variety, how should I format the move table so I can add in the moves for the others? The one up right now is for the Bug/Grass Minomadam. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 01:57, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Actually, Serebii seems to have confirmed that Minomuchi changes forms by battling, not fainting. In this way, each and every battle has the potential to switch his appearance. --[[User:ANinyMouse|ANinyMouse]] 18:32, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

==Machines==
Does anyone know which forms can use which TMs and HMs? I imagine they are different. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 15:21, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, according to this:[http://serebii.net/pokedex-dp/413.shtml], only the level up moves are different.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 23:01, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

False. Smogon has a link that clearly shows that their TMs are very different indeed. --[[User:ANinyMouse|ANinyMouse]] 04:21, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

== Where they last battled ==

Well, I can imagine why there's no mention of this - probably because someone deleted a sentence instead of redoing it so it would fit in with Bulbapedia's style of writing. But to my point, there's no mention that the Plant Cloak comes from tall grass, the Sandy Cloak comes from a cave, and the Trash Cloak comes from a building. I went here to try to find and learn this, and when I couldn't, I went to Wikipedia, the source for ''less'' information on Pokémon. Seriously, people...

<completely changes mood> So, where should a mention of this go? --[[User:Clorox|Clorox]] ([[User talk:Clorox|diskussion]]) 02:37, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
:The changing cloaks only apply to Burmy. The cloak Burmy is wearing at the moment becomes permanent upon its evolution to Wormadam.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:25, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

== what? ==
What's the difference between it's shiny form and it's regular form? i can't find any differences at all [[User:SLE aman|SLE_aman]]

2008-02-23T10:49:19Z

SLE aman: /* my pokémon team */

=Information=
well i get bored easily so what better to do then some missions?
ps. i don't know much about computer stuff.
i'm a proud member of the YMCA i mean the CCUP
{{User:Count Caterpie/Userbox/CCUP agent|5041209|M}}
and idk what this is but it's wierd
==Me==
I'm super cool. But i'm egotistic. I love pokemon. The first time I learned how to use a remote I was watching pokémon.
==My Pokémon Team==
{{Team|
|#1=[[Image:389.png]]
|Poke1={{p|Torterra}}
|LV1={{tt|Lv. 73}}
|G1=♂
|HI1=[[Yache Berry]]
|M1P1={{m|Earthquake}}
|M2P1={{m|Solar Beam}}
|M3P1={{m|Synthesis}}
|M4P1={{m|Sunny Day}}

|#2=[[Image:019.png]]
|Poke2={{p|Rattata}}
|LV2={{tt|Lv. 1}}
|G2=♂
|HI2=[[In-battle effect item#Focus Sash|Focus Sash]]
|M1P2={{m|Quick attack}}
|M2P2={{m|Endevor}}
|M3P2={{m|Fire Fang}}
|M4P2={{m|Substitite}}

|#3=[[Image:242.png]]
|Poke3={{p|Blissey}}
|LV3={{tt|Lv. 100}}
|G3=♀
|HI3=[[Leftovers]]
|M1P3={{m|Thunder Wave}}
|M2P3={{m|Double team}}
|M3P3={{m|Softboiled}}
|M4P3={{m|Egg bomb}}
}}

==Trivia==
*I'm really crative.
*I love the hamster song
*I like the number sequence 5041209 since it is easy for me to remember.
*I have fear of fears and my fears include
spiders
falling
clowns
giraffes
snakes
lizards
water
lightning
seazures
baloons poping
certian fish
gloves
bags
hats
bullies
garlic
sunlight
monkies
swings
and regulary scary stuff
==sig==
i finally figured out how to make one thanks to Tina for her signiture halp page and Brian2234 from a fourm i go on for the colors thing.
[[Image:Ani327MS.gif|idk how to make it the shiny green one]][[Image:Ani113MS.gif|japaneese name was lucky]][[Image:Ani196MS.gif|an espeon]][[User:SLE_aman|SLE]][[User Talk:SLE_aman|_Aman]][[Image:Ani387MS.gif|my favorite pokemon]]

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{{:User:Optimus35/Spy/Rank1}}
{{:User:Haruka uzumaki/Missions/To the rescue!/Prize/Userbox}}
{{:User:Optimus35/Mission/8/Userbox}}
{{:User:Optimus35/Games/2/Userbox}}
Highlight this thing's words to find the words.
{{:User:Optimus35/Mission/9/Second part/Prize/Userbox}}
{{:User:Theryguy512/Mission/Where's the Wedding?/Church/Wedding/Prize}}
{{:User:Shiny Noctowl/Mission/Ding Dong!/Prize}}
{{:User:Shiny Noctowl/Mission/The Final Mission/68CE6XQ3/Prize}}
Okay maybe i hacked these ones
{{:User:Shiny Noctowl/Fun/Fishing/Prize|389|Torterra|125|02:51, 28 October 2007 (UTC)}}
{{:User:Shiny Noctowl/Fun/Fishing/Prize|392|Infernape|125|02:53, 28 October 2007 (UTC)}}
{{:User:Shiny Noctowl/Fun/Fishing/Prize|395|Empoleon|125|02:54, 28 October 2007 (UTC)}}
(End of hacking)(Or is it?)
{{:User:Netto-kun/Missions/Chansey's Egg Rescue/Prize/Userbox}}
{{:User:Netto-kun/Missions/Hatch Happiny/Prize/Userbox}}
{{:User:Theryguy512/Mission/Protect the Smoochum/Attack/Sound/Found/Prize}}
{{:User:Shiny Noctowl/Mission/Porygon-BZZZZZT/Prize}}
{{:User:Shiny Noctowl/Mission/*cough*Weezing*cough*/Prize}}
{{:User:Count Caterpie/Mt. Moon/Prize/Userbox}}
{{:User:TinaTheKirlia/Missions/2/Prize}}
{{:User:TinaTheKirlia/Userprize}}
{{:User:TinaTheKirlia/Userprize2}}
{{User:Espeon360/caterpie found}}
{{:User:Stinkoman/Missionbase/Mission2/Mt. Pyre/Prize 1}}
Highlight the words on this one too.
{{:User:Stinkoman/secret tag}}
{{:User:Optimus35/Mission/6/Userbox}}
{{:User:Espeon360/mespreeetyprize}}
{{User:Espeon360/UmbEspCom}}
{{User:Espeon360/volbeated}}
{{User:Espeon360/Caterpie found}}
{{:User:Optimus35/Games/3/Userbox}}
{{:User:Optimus35/Nothing/Prize}}
{{:User:Optimus35/Christmas/Prize}}
{{:User:Carnivine/Missionbase/Super-Mega-Ultra-Top Secret Mission 3 Prize}}
{{User:Count Caterpie/Userbox/GoldenCaterpie/1}}
Some stuff about me (in progress)
{{User Favorite Move|387|Razor leaf}}
{{User Favorite Ability|292|Wonder Guard}}
{{:User:Shiny Noctowl/Mission/Annon-ymous/Prize/1}}
{{:User:Carnivine/Rocket Admin/Top Secret}}
{{User Alltypes}}
{{:User:Theryguy512/Riddles/3}}
</div>

User:SLE aman

2008-02-17T06:57:24Z

SLE aman: /* my pokémon team */

=Information=
well i get bored easily so what better to do then some missions?
ps. i don't know much about computer stuff.
i'm a proud member of the YMCA i mean the CCUP
{{User:Count Caterpie/Userbox/CCUP agent|5041209|M}}
and idk what this is but it's wierd
==Me==
I'm super cool. But i'm egotistic. I love pokemon. The first time I learned how to use a remote I was watching pokémon.
==my pokémon team==

==Trivia==
*I'm really crative.
*I love the hamster song
*I like the number sequence 5041209 since it is easy for me to remember.
*I have fear of fears and my fears include
spiders
falling
clowns
giraffes
snakes
lizards
water
lightning
seazures
baloons poping
certian fish
gloves
bags
hats
bullies
garlic
sunlight
monkies
swings
and regulary scary stuff
==sig==
i finally figured out how to make one thanks to Tina for her signiture halp page and Brian2234 from a fourm i go on for the colors thing.
[[Image:Ani327MS.gif|idk how to make it the shiny green one]][[Image:Ani113MS.gif|japaneese name was lucky]][[Image:Ani196MS.gif|an espeon]][[User:SLE_aman|SLE]][[User Talk:SLE_aman|_Aman]][[Image:Ani387MS.gif|my favorite pokemon]]

<div class="userbox">
{{:User:Optimus35/Spy/Rank1}}
{{:User:Haruka uzumaki/Missions/To the rescue!/Prize/Userbox}}
{{:User:Optimus35/Mission/8/Userbox}}
{{:User:Optimus35/Games/2/Userbox}}
Highlight this thing's words to find the words.
{{:User:Optimus35/Mission/9/Second part/Prize/Userbox}}
{{:User:Theryguy512/Mission/Where's the Wedding?/Church/Wedding/Prize}}
{{:User:Shiny Noctowl/Mission/Ding Dong!/Prize}}
{{:User:Shiny Noctowl/Mission/The Final Mission/68CE6XQ3/Prize}}
Okay maybe i hacked these ones
{{:User:Shiny Noctowl/Fun/Fishing/Prize|389|Torterra|125|02:51, 28 October 2007 (UTC)}}
{{:User:Shiny Noctowl/Fun/Fishing/Prize|392|Infernape|125|02:53, 28 October 2007 (UTC)}}
{{:User:Shiny Noctowl/Fun/Fishing/Prize|395|Empoleon|125|02:54, 28 October 2007 (UTC)}}
(End of hacking)(Or is it?)
{{:User:Netto-kun/Missions/Chansey's Egg Rescue/Prize/Userbox}}
{{:User:Netto-kun/Missions/Hatch Happiny/Prize/Userbox}}
{{:User:Theryguy512/Mission/Protect the Smoochum/Attack/Sound/Found/Prize}}
{{:User:Shiny Noctowl/Mission/Porygon-BZZZZZT/Prize}}
{{:User:Shiny Noctowl/Mission/*cough*Weezing*cough*/Prize}}
{{:User:Count Caterpie/Mt. Moon/Prize/Userbox}}
{{:User:TinaTheKirlia/Missions/2/Prize}}
{{:User:TinaTheKirlia/Userprize}}
{{:User:TinaTheKirlia/Userprize2}}
{{User:Espeon360/caterpie found}}
{{:User:Stinkoman/Missionbase/Mission2/Mt. Pyre/Prize 1}}
Highlight the words on this one too.
{{:User:Stinkoman/secret tag}}
{{:User:Optimus35/Mission/6/Userbox}}
{{:User:Espeon360/mespreeetyprize}}
{{User:Espeon360/UmbEspCom}}
{{User:Espeon360/volbeated}}
{{User:Espeon360/Caterpie found}}
{{:User:Optimus35/Games/3/Userbox}}
{{:User:Optimus35/Nothing/Prize}}
{{:User:Optimus35/Christmas/Prize}}
{{:User:Carnivine/Missionbase/Super-Mega-Ultra-Top Secret Mission 3 Prize}}
{{User:Count Caterpie/Userbox/GoldenCaterpie/1}}
Some stuff about me (in progress)
{{User Favorite Move|387|Razor leaf}}
{{User Favorite Ability|292|Wonder Guard}}
{{:User:Shiny Noctowl/Mission/Annon-ymous/Prize/1}}
{{:User:Carnivine/Rocket Admin/Top Secret}}
{{User Alltypes}}
{{:User:Theryguy512/Riddles/3}}
</div>