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Talk:Dawn's Piplup

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==Bide?==
I think Pochama used Bide aganist the Ariados...I'm not sure though. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 23:38, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

It did. - Paperfairy @ 20:35 03/19/2007

== Piplup's voice ==

I think Piplup is voiced by [[Jamie Peacock]] cause in a way it sounds like [[Ash's Cyndaquil]]. {{unsigned|Livinlarge18}}
:That could be true... Though I can't be sure because they never list the voices for Pokémon in the credits (except for Pikachu). --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]][[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]] 01:53, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

==Level/Evolving ==

Could it be said that Piplup might not evolve? It knows Whirlpool which is a level 32 move, and evolves into Prinplup at level 16... Or would that be purely speculation? - [[User:Constant|Constant]] 10:31, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

seeing how much time it's spent out of the pokeball,and as it's dawn's signature pokemon(much like ash and pikachu),i think its going to stay a piplup[[User:Garrison12795|'''''Garrison''''']][[User talk:Garrison12795|'''''12795''''']] 12:31, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
:Also level = not anime. Otherwise jeez, Ash either Rare Candied Charmeleon a lot or just didn't bother training Charmander. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:26, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah Level/evolving seems to have very little standing in the show, I mean [[Ash's Charmander]] knew flamethrower when he caught it. {{Unsigned|Cahillbro}}
:though i kinda want it to evolve. Its amazingly cute, but an Empoleon or at least a Prinplup could do wonders for her. Maybe she'll catch a Chikorita for GSDS. i wish... but dont count on it.

That's what most thought on Torchic during Adv. But it evolve anyways. And level did exist in the anime but is now neglected. Remember back in the first season, someone mentioned Pikachu as around lvl.25 after Ash said he was traveling for just two months, forgot the episode title sorry.

Well, maybe we should all wait for [[DP121]] [[User:Torngentleman2|Torngentleman2]] 18:56, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

And wait we shall... this evolution debate has become very big and exciting across forums now. It's actually quite an interesting puzzle to work out all the clues and look at the facts to see what will happen. I still hope it evolves, because that would be a big surprise. It would be fantastic if we saw a preview of it evolving... the white light surrounding its body, it changing shape, the white light disappearing and it being permanently changed into a Prinplup. This would be fun to see, but sadly, all signs are pointing to it not evolving... most people on different forums have said things like "It may just be Piplup's Mysterious Garden", "Piplup might just have got run away lessons from Misty's Psyduck" and my personal favourite "Piplup might pull a Bulbasaur". Currently I'd say 80% chance it'll not evolve, 20% it will.

We have to wait just over half a month, but it'll be totally worth it to see the answer. Plus, as time goes on, we may start seeing previews and pics, and then the Arceus poster might get updated with Piplup replaced with Prinplup... the suspense is killing me! Oh yeah, just one more thing. If it turns out that it doesn't evolve and it stays the same, I won't be furious or anything. I'll be quite annoyed, but I'll just keep up hope that one day the little bratty penguin will grow up. There will be a day! --[[User:Dusknoir477|Dusknoir477]] 19:17, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

==ability==
its obvious its torrent but idk how to edit that [[User:Happizelpom|Happi]][[User talk:Happizelpom|zel]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|pom]] 05:33, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:That was never shown. -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 12:10, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

==Male==
im not doubting it but what were the exact words that referred it to being male? [[User:Happizelpom|Happi]][[User talk:Happizelpom|zel]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|pom]] 04:00, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
:Yea,I've watched all the dub episodes to,and I don't remember any "he" words when refering to Piplup,only "it". [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 18:52, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::Woah, woah, woah. Proof please. I have barely watched the dub (I did want to see how much they cut in the recent ghost episode) but this seems out of character, especially when almost all the evidence points towards female. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 23:58, 3 February 2009 (UTC) Note: On checking the history, there apparently is a small reference in [[DP011]]. I'm not going to dispute this but the dub's probably making a mistake....

:::Almost all evidence pointing toward Piplup being female? The only evidence pointing toward Piplup being female is that cheerleader outfit from [[DP061]], and that's highly debatable since {{TP|Dawn|Pachirisu}} also wore one and its head stripe is heavy evidence pointing toward it being male. The fact that it's voiced by females means nothing--[[Madame Muchmoney's Snubbull]] is a confirmed female yet in the dub was voiced by a male in that evolution state, while [[Ash's Totodile]] is heavily pointed toward being male yet is voiced by females.

:::There's actually more evidence that points toward Piplup being male--there's the embarrasment in that maid outfit from [[DP062]] and Dawn interpreting Piplup's speech using a masculine pronoun in the Japanese version of [[DP087]]. ****, if it weren't for {{Special|Yellow}} and [[Anabel]], that interpretation of Piplup's speech would probably have been taken as rock-solid evidence that Piplup is male.

:::Of course, there isn't enough evidence either way pointing toward a specific gender in Piplup's case. And if there isn't 100% confirmation, it doesn't matter how much evidence points toward one way--it's entirely possible that all the evidence points one direction yet it eventually gets confirmed the other way. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 00:13, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

:::I don't know for sure, but I think it is quite likely male. It just looks it. Piplup have a large chance of being male also. A Piplup gender debate better not start. --[[User:Dusknoir477|Dusknoir477]] 12:41, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

:::I'm pretty sure Dawn said "He woke up for a little, but then went back to sleep in [[A Lean Mean Team Rocket Machine]]". But, I don't know... [[User:Torngentleman2|Torngentleman2]] 18:57, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

== Well. ==

DP121's sure made our lives difficult.

Could be another [[EP091]] ploy, but who knows at this point. Personally, I'd say let's not take risks with a title as blatant as that. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:58, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
:Since Piplup is on the Movie 12 Poster, and Chimchar and Staravia are not, I don't think it's likely that Piplup will be evolving any time in the next few months. So I'm going to guess it's a ploy. However, I agree that it's wise not to take risks, or to allow anyone to edit the page because "they're sure Piplup will evolve" or anything like that.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 20:08, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
::Could be someone else's Staraptor/Monferno/Piplup on the movie poster.. then again, this also applies to the episodes said Pokémon 'evolve' in. [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♪]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 20:11, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Given the fact that the anime likes to screw with us, I'd bet on ''someone else's'' Piplup evolving. Besides, Prinpulp isn't on the poster, therefore it can't evolve. (Is it someone else's? Doubt it highly!) [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 22:10, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

::::I sure hope this new episode announcement does result in Dawn's Piplup evolving. Most of the fans believe that Piplup's evolution is long overdue, and I highly doubt they'd have even suggested Piplup might evolve if {{u|Kenji-girl}}'s whole "Piplup's a second mascot" bull**** were accurate...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:45, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::Purimpopie is right.....PIPLUP IS NOT GOING TO EVOLVE? When ever they put it in the title this specific, it even hints that it's not gonna evolve...it's like Ash's Pikachu....there might be more episodes about it trying to evolve....but it's NEVER GOING TO EVOLVE!!!--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 23:05, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::::There's always a possibility that it could evolve, despite all the clues pointing to it not evolving. But I just hope this isn't the same as Pikachu (with it facing its evolution and refusing to evolve) because then everyone will use this as evidence for PearlShipping or something >> '''~ overgrown[[User:Sol|s]][[User talk:Sol|o]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|l]]''' 23:08, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

::::::::It's pretty obvious it's not evolving. The 12th movie confirms this. I'm sure this episode will air before it, right? Just another stupid rumor.

::::::::Shiningpikablu... you're so funny. You don't think Piplup is the second mascot, yet you believed that Dawn's Pachirisu was going to die... Piplup's never evolving. You just can't handle someone else being a mascot besides Pikachu and Meowth. As we've seen, the DP series has broken more barriers than the previous generations. Someone other than Ash fights an Elite Four member, a trade went on between two main characters, and Ash gained a Pokémon that previously belonged to his rival. Why is Piplup being another mascot so unbelievable compared to all of this? Get over it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:12, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

::::::::We pretty much knew Pikachu wasn't going to be evolving in [[DP074]] because it had refused to evolve when given a chance way back in [[EP013]]. Piplup, on the other hand, has never been stated as not wanting to evolve. Sure, we've had cryptic titles before, but I've placed my chips on this outcome: Piplup evolves. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:14, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Piplup ''IS'' a mascot...all over official Pokémon sites...they list Piplup along with Ash, Brock, Dawn, and Pikachu....they are ALL on the SAME list....!!!--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 23:15, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

:::::::::::Okay, but it's a lost bet. Movie confirms it's not evolving. I doubt the writers would have Piplup evolve now when it's going to be a Piplup 4 months from now. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:18, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
: I'm sure that it won't evolve, judging from the ''official'' Pokémon movie site/posters. Besides, DP074's Japanese title also confused us about Pikachu's evolution, despite being the mascot.. And, it's not EP013, it's EP014. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 10:08, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
::How do we know it isn't some CoTD or other character's Piplup? [[User:Yinyang1195|Yin]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|Yang]] 20:44, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
:::I think [[Tyler]] will appear again. --[[User:Mr.lol|Mr.lol]] 20:54, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
::::But Pippy has a Tiara.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 21:45, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::Seriously guys, it can't evolve. Piplup is on the poster, and it's a 99.9999999999999% chance it is Dawn's. It won't evolve. On another note, as it says "This time for Piplup", we can probably expect a certain Monferno by this time. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 21:49, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::Movie posters can be edited. Didn't they do that once? I think Treecko was on some movie poster, then it evolved before the movie, so they updated it with Grovyle. Is that so impossible with Piplup? Now, I'm not saying Piplup will evolve here, I'm only saying it's not out of the question! I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]]. See my new and improved user page, and [[User talk:Missingno. Master|comment on it!]] 22:15, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Do they also edit movie trailers? Piplup was also shown in the trailers. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 11:50, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
::::One of the following I think will happen: 1. Piplup tries to evolve, but fails. 2. The fact that Piplup hasn't evolved yet is brought up as the main debate of the episode and is never spoken of again. 3. Piplup begins evolving, but it stops itself because its a whiny spoilsport and, like Pikachu, doesn't want to change (which means itll never evolve, much to the dismay of many viewers and me). 4. Similar to the events of Bye Bye Psyduck, everyone thinks that Piplup has evolved, but it either gets replaced accidentally by a Prinplup or Piplup pulls some prank on them. 5. Piplup evolves in a dream. Dawn wakes up to find that unfortunately her new Prinplup still a Piplup. 6. The film ''Arceus'' takes place before its evolution, which would cause much confusion. 7. All promotional images and posters of the film are incorrect and need to be redone. This however, isn't a problem. They've made several mistakes like this before. I really hope it is No. 7, because Piplup needs to evolve and fast... I don't want Piplup to be a permanant. It hasn't got an excuse... it'll evolve someday. Pikachu has an excuse not to, as it needs a Thunder Stone, but Piplup? He evolves naturally. --[[User:Dusknoir477|Dusknoir477]] 12:34, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
If you look on Pokebeach.com at one of their most recent updates, you'll see scans from a magazine or something, they were translated, and it says Piplup is going to be given and everstone. So no evo. [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 17:39, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
:Trust me, it's STILL going to evolve soon. Trust me, if this whole Everstone bull**** does happen (and I sure hope it doesn't), one Knock Off and it's a Prinplup. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:11, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
::Still denying it I see... Even though there is a huge pile of evidence that it won't. Saying "and I sure hope it doesn't" just proves that you're going on your own personal interest instead of fact. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 07:19, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

:::Shiningpikablu252 ok I have to remark on that. Why would the writers choose to make it hold a everstone and have a whole episode dedicated if it will evolve no less and then up and change there mind? I mean what are the odds? and what would the writers gain from doing so? It kinda does not make any sense at all.--[[User:Riggins|Riggy (>0.0)>]] 16:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

== Know what? ==

We have this rule about not moving/"updating" anything till the episode airs. Thus, the discussion is completely useless. '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 13:44, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

==Protection Template==
needs to change, cuz the episode of piplups supposed evolution, is now [[DP122]][[User:Happizelpom|Happi]][[User talk:Happizelpom|zel]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|pom]] 04:27, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

== Item to hold? ==

I read it said Pochama was going to be given a Everstone('''if it's even true'''). So hold would that work exactly?

Placed around it's neck on a string?

Will it be given a lil sack to wear?

Will merge with it's body?

My memory is fuzzy but I can't ever remember a time a pokemon was given a item to hold( feel free to correct me) so I'm curious how this works out. --[[User:Riggins|Riggy (>0.0)>]] 16:22, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Dawn's Piplup

2009-03-22T16:22:26Z

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==Bide?==
I think Pochama used Bide aganist the Ariados...I'm not sure though. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 23:38, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

It did. - Paperfairy @ 20:35 03/19/2007

== Piplup's voice ==

I think Piplup is voiced by [[Jamie Peacock]] cause in a way it sounds like [[Ash's Cyndaquil]]. {{unsigned|Livinlarge18}}
:That could be true... Though I can't be sure because they never list the voices for Pokémon in the credits (except for Pikachu). --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]][[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]] 01:53, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

==Level/Evolving ==

Could it be said that Piplup might not evolve? It knows Whirlpool which is a level 32 move, and evolves into Prinplup at level 16... Or would that be purely speculation? - [[User:Constant|Constant]] 10:31, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

seeing how much time it's spent out of the pokeball,and as it's dawn's signature pokemon(much like ash and pikachu),i think its going to stay a piplup[[User:Garrison12795|'''''Garrison''''']][[User talk:Garrison12795|'''''12795''''']] 12:31, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
:Also level = not anime. Otherwise jeez, Ash either Rare Candied Charmeleon a lot or just didn't bother training Charmander. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:26, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah Level/evolving seems to have very little standing in the show, I mean [[Ash's Charmander]] knew flamethrower when he caught it. {{Unsigned|Cahillbro}}
:though i kinda want it to evolve. Its amazingly cute, but an Empoleon or at least a Prinplup could do wonders for her. Maybe she'll catch a Chikorita for GSDS. i wish... but dont count on it.

That's what most thought on Torchic during Adv. But it evolve anyways. And level did exist in the anime but is now neglected. Remember back in the first season, someone mentioned Pikachu as around lvl.25 after Ash said he was traveling for just two months, forgot the episode title sorry.

Well, maybe we should all wait for [[DP121]] [[User:Torngentleman2|Torngentleman2]] 18:56, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

And wait we shall... this evolution debate has become very big and exciting across forums now. It's actually quite an interesting puzzle to work out all the clues and look at the facts to see what will happen. I still hope it evolves, because that would be a big surprise. It would be fantastic if we saw a preview of it evolving... the white light surrounding its body, it changing shape, the white light disappearing and it being permanently changed into a Prinplup. This would be fun to see, but sadly, all signs are pointing to it not evolving... most people on different forums have said things like "It may just be Piplup's Mysterious Garden", "Piplup might just have got run away lessons from Misty's Psyduck" and my personal favourite "Piplup might pull a Bulbasaur". Currently I'd say 80% chance it'll not evolve, 20% it will.

We have to wait just over half a month, but it'll be totally worth it to see the answer. Plus, as time goes on, we may start seeing previews and pics, and then the Arceus poster might get updated with Piplup replaced with Prinplup... the suspense is killing me! Oh yeah, just one more thing. If it turns out that it doesn't evolve and it stays the same, I won't be furious or anything. I'll be quite annoyed, but I'll just keep up hope that one day the little bratty penguin will grow up. There will be a day! --[[User:Dusknoir477|Dusknoir477]] 19:17, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

==ability==
its obvious its torrent but idk how to edit that [[User:Happizelpom|Happi]][[User talk:Happizelpom|zel]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|pom]] 05:33, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:That was never shown. -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 12:10, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

==Male==
im not doubting it but what were the exact words that referred it to being male? [[User:Happizelpom|Happi]][[User talk:Happizelpom|zel]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|pom]] 04:00, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
:Yea,I've watched all the dub episodes to,and I don't remember any "he" words when refering to Piplup,only "it". [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 18:52, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::Woah, woah, woah. Proof please. I have barely watched the dub (I did want to see how much they cut in the recent ghost episode) but this seems out of character, especially when almost all the evidence points towards female. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 23:58, 3 February 2009 (UTC) Note: On checking the history, there apparently is a small reference in [[DP011]]. I'm not going to dispute this but the dub's probably making a mistake....

:::Almost all evidence pointing toward Piplup being female? The only evidence pointing toward Piplup being female is that cheerleader outfit from [[DP061]], and that's highly debatable since {{TP|Dawn|Pachirisu}} also wore one and its head stripe is heavy evidence pointing toward it being male. The fact that it's voiced by females means nothing--[[Madame Muchmoney's Snubbull]] is a confirmed female yet in the dub was voiced by a male in that evolution state, while [[Ash's Totodile]] is heavily pointed toward being male yet is voiced by females.

:::There's actually more evidence that points toward Piplup being male--there's the embarrasment in that maid outfit from [[DP062]] and Dawn interpreting Piplup's speech using a masculine pronoun in the Japanese version of [[DP087]]. ****, if it weren't for {{Special|Yellow}} and [[Anabel]], that interpretation of Piplup's speech would probably have been taken as rock-solid evidence that Piplup is male.

:::Of course, there isn't enough evidence either way pointing toward a specific gender in Piplup's case. And if there isn't 100% confirmation, it doesn't matter how much evidence points toward one way--it's entirely possible that all the evidence points one direction yet it eventually gets confirmed the other way. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 00:13, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

:::I don't know for sure, but I think it is quite likely male. It just looks it. Piplup have a large chance of being male also. A Piplup gender debate better not start. --[[User:Dusknoir477|Dusknoir477]] 12:41, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

:::I'm pretty sure Dawn said "He woke up for a little, but then went back to sleep in [[A Lean Mean Team Rocket Machine]]". But, I don't know... [[User:Torngentleman2|Torngentleman2]] 18:57, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

== Well. ==

DP121's sure made our lives difficult.

Could be another [[EP091]] ploy, but who knows at this point. Personally, I'd say let's not take risks with a title as blatant as that. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:58, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
:Since Piplup is on the Movie 12 Poster, and Chimchar and Staravia are not, I don't think it's likely that Piplup will be evolving any time in the next few months. So I'm going to guess it's a ploy. However, I agree that it's wise not to take risks, or to allow anyone to edit the page because "they're sure Piplup will evolve" or anything like that.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 20:08, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
::Could be someone else's Staraptor/Monferno/Piplup on the movie poster.. then again, this also applies to the episodes said Pokémon 'evolve' in. [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♪]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 20:11, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Given the fact that the anime likes to screw with us, I'd bet on ''someone else's'' Piplup evolving. Besides, Prinpulp isn't on the poster, therefore it can't evolve. (Is it someone else's? Doubt it highly!) [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 22:10, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

::::I sure hope this new episode announcement does result in Dawn's Piplup evolving. Most of the fans believe that Piplup's evolution is long overdue, and I highly doubt they'd have even suggested Piplup might evolve if {{u|Kenji-girl}}'s whole "Piplup's a second mascot" bull**** were accurate...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:45, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::Purimpopie is right.....PIPLUP IS NOT GOING TO EVOLVE? When ever they put it in the title this specific, it even hints that it's not gonna evolve...it's like Ash's Pikachu....there might be more episodes about it trying to evolve....but it's NEVER GOING TO EVOLVE!!!--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 23:05, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::::There's always a possibility that it could evolve, despite all the clues pointing to it not evolving. But I just hope this isn't the same as Pikachu (with it facing its evolution and refusing to evolve) because then everyone will use this as evidence for PearlShipping or something >> '''~ overgrown[[User:Sol|s]][[User talk:Sol|o]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|l]]''' 23:08, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

::::::::It's pretty obvious it's not evolving. The 12th movie confirms this. I'm sure this episode will air before it, right? Just another stupid rumor.

::::::::Shiningpikablu... you're so funny. You don't think Piplup is the second mascot, yet you believed that Dawn's Pachirisu was going to die... Piplup's never evolving. You just can't handle someone else being a mascot besides Pikachu and Meowth. As we've seen, the DP series has broken more barriers than the previous generations. Someone other than Ash fights an Elite Four member, a trade went on between two main characters, and Ash gained a Pokémon that previously belonged to his rival. Why is Piplup being another mascot so unbelievable compared to all of this? Get over it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:12, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

::::::::We pretty much knew Pikachu wasn't going to be evolving in [[DP074]] because it had refused to evolve when given a chance way back in [[EP013]]. Piplup, on the other hand, has never been stated as not wanting to evolve. Sure, we've had cryptic titles before, but I've placed my chips on this outcome: Piplup evolves. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:14, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Piplup ''IS'' a mascot...all over official Pokémon sites...they list Piplup along with Ash, Brock, Dawn, and Pikachu....they are ALL on the SAME list....!!!--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 23:15, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

:::::::::::Okay, but it's a lost bet. Movie confirms it's not evolving. I doubt the writers would have Piplup evolve now when it's going to be a Piplup 4 months from now. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:18, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
: I'm sure that it won't evolve, judging from the ''official'' Pokémon movie site/posters. Besides, DP074's Japanese title also confused us about Pikachu's evolution, despite being the mascot.. And, it's not EP013, it's EP014. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 10:08, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
::How do we know it isn't some CoTD or other character's Piplup? [[User:Yinyang1195|Yin]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|Yang]] 20:44, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
:::I think [[Tyler]] will appear again. --[[User:Mr.lol|Mr.lol]] 20:54, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
::::But Pippy has a Tiara.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 21:45, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::Seriously guys, it can't evolve. Piplup is on the poster, and it's a 99.9999999999999% chance it is Dawn's. It won't evolve. On another note, as it says "This time for Piplup", we can probably expect a certain Monferno by this time. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 21:49, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::Movie posters can be edited. Didn't they do that once? I think Treecko was on some movie poster, then it evolved before the movie, so they updated it with Grovyle. Is that so impossible with Piplup? Now, I'm not saying Piplup will evolve here, I'm only saying it's not out of the question! I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]]. See my new and improved user page, and [[User talk:Missingno. Master|comment on it!]] 22:15, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Do they also edit movie trailers? Piplup was also shown in the trailers. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 11:50, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
::::One of the following I think will happen: 1. Piplup tries to evolve, but fails. 2. The fact that Piplup hasn't evolved yet is brought up as the main debate of the episode and is never spoken of again. 3. Piplup begins evolving, but it stops itself because its a whiny spoilsport and, like Pikachu, doesn't want to change (which means itll never evolve, much to the dismay of many viewers and me). 4. Similar to the events of Bye Bye Psyduck, everyone thinks that Piplup has evolved, but it either gets replaced accidentally by a Prinplup or Piplup pulls some prank on them. 5. Piplup evolves in a dream. Dawn wakes up to find that unfortunately her new Prinplup still a Piplup. 6. The film ''Arceus'' takes place before its evolution, which would cause much confusion. 7. All promotional images and posters of the film are incorrect and need to be redone. This however, isn't a problem. They've made several mistakes like this before. I really hope it is No. 7, because Piplup needs to evolve and fast... I don't want Piplup to be a permanant. It hasn't got an excuse... it'll evolve someday. Pikachu has an excuse not to, as it needs a Thunder Stone, but Piplup? He evolves naturally. --[[User:Dusknoir477|Dusknoir477]] 12:34, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
If you look on Pokebeach.com at one of their most recent updates, you'll see scans from a magazine or something, they were translated, and it says Piplup is going to be given and everstone. So no evo. [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 17:39, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
:Trust me, it's STILL going to evolve soon. Trust me, if this whole Everstone bull**** does happen (and I sure hope it doesn't), one Knock Off and it's a Prinplup. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:11, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
::Still denying it I see... Even though there is a huge pile of evidence that it won't. Saying "and I sure hope it doesn't" just proves that you're going on your own personal interest instead of fact. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 07:19, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

== Know what? ==

We have this rule about not moving/"updating" anything till the episode airs. Thus, the discussion is completely useless. '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 13:44, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

==Protection Template==
needs to change, cuz the episode of piplups supposed evolution, is now [[DP122]][[User:Happizelpom|Happi]][[User talk:Happizelpom|zel]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|pom]] 04:27, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

== Item to hold? ==

I read it said Pochama was going to be given a Everstone('''if it's even true'''). So hold would that work exactly?

Placed around it's neck on a string?

Will it be given a lil sack to wear?

Will merge with it's body?

My memory is fuzzy but I can't ever remember a time a pokemon was given a item to hold( feel free to correct me) so I'm curious how this works out. --[[User:Riggins|Riggy (>0.0)>]] 16:22, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

EP090

2009-03-16T21:26:59Z

Riggins: /* Errors */

{{EpicodePrevNext|
prevcode=EP089 |
prevtitle=Shell Shock! |
nextcode=EP091 |
nexttitle=Bye Bye Psyduck |
series=Original series |
colorscheme=Orange}}
{{EpisodeInfobox|
colorscheme=Orange |
epcode=EP090 |
title_en=Stage Fight! |
title_ja=おどる！ポケモンショーボート！ |
title_ja_trans=Dance! Pokémon Showboat! |
screen=yes |
broadcast_jp=April 1, 1999 |
broadcast_us=February 12, 2000 |
en_series=Orange Islands |
en_op=[[Pokémon World (song)|Pokémon World]] |
ja_op=[[The Rivals|ライバル！]] |
ja_ed=[[Type Wild|タイプ・ワイルド]] |
olmteam=Team Ota |
scenario=園田英樹 |
storyboard=葛谷直行 |
director=井上修 |
art=梶浦紳一郎 |
morecredits=no |
epstaffpage=EP081-EP090 |
footnotes= }}
'''Stage Fight!''' (Japanese: '''おどる！ポケモンショーボート！''' ''Dance! Pokémon Showboat!'') is the 90th episode of the [[Pokémon anime]]. It was first broadcast in Japan on April 1, 1999 and in the United States on February 12, 2000.

{{spoilers}}
== Synopsis ==
{{Incomplete synopsis}}


== Major events ==

=== Debuts ===

== Characters ==
=== Humans ===
* {{Ash}}
* [[Misty]]
* {{Tracey}}
* [[Jessie]]
* [[James]]
* [[Roger]]
* [[Kay]]
* Kōji
* Annu

=== Pokémon ===
[[Who’s That Pokémon?]]: {{p|Golduck}} (''US and international''), {{p|Raichu}} (''Japan'')
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OP|Ash|Pikachu}})
* {{p|Meowth}} ({{TRM}})
* {{p|Togepi}} ({{OP|Misty|Togepi}})
* {{p|Squirtle}} ({{OP|Ash|Squirtle}})
* {{p|Staryu}} ({{OP|Misty|Staryu}})
* {{p|Psyduck}} ({{OP|Misty|Psyduck}})
* {{p|Marill}} ({{OP|Tracey|Marill}})
* {{p|Weezing}} ({{OP|James|Weezing}})
* {{p|Victreebel}} ({{OP|James|Victreebel}})
* {{p|Raichu}} (Kay's)

Showboat Pokémon:

* {{p|Clefable}}
* {{p|Abra}}
* {{p|Machoke}}
* {{p|Hitmonchan}}
* {{p|Chansey}}
* {{p|Mr. Mime}}
* {{p|Jynx}}

== Trivia ==
[[Image:Jynx's Foot.PNG|thumb|right|250px|Jynx's foot]]
* This episode's dub title is a reference to the popular saying, "{{wp|stage fright}}."
* The first lines of the poem that Kay recites is from {{wp|The Rime of the Ancient Mariner}} by Samuel Taylor Coleridge.
* The part of the show where Hitmonchan and Machoke were fighting each other is a reference to the {{wp|Rocky}} movies.
* In the last scene where all the Pokémon are dancing, ''[[Aim to Be a Pokémon Master]]'' was played in the background. In the English version, ''{{so|Pokémon World}}'' was played.
* In the dancing scene it is the only time a Jynx's feet have ever been seen.
=== Errors ===
*In the scene where Raichu shocks Meowth, it's Japanese voice can be heard in the English version.

=== Dub edits ===

==In other languages==
* French: '''{{tt|Un combat théâtral|A theatrical battle}}'''
* Italian: '''{{tt|Tutti in scena|Stage on}}'''
* Latin American Spanish: '''{{tt|¡Lucha en el escenario!|Stage fight!}}'''
* Iberian Spanish: '''{{tt|Lucha escénica|Stage fight!}}'''
* Brazilian Portuguese: '''{{tt|Uma Briga Teatral!|A Theatrical Fight!}}'''

{{epstub}}
{{EpicodePrevNext|
prevcode=EP089 |
prevtitle=Shell Shock! |
nextcode=EP091 |
nexttitle=Bye Bye Psyduck |
series=Original series |
colorscheme=Orange}}
{{Project Anime notice}}
[[Category:Original series episodes|090]]
[[Category:Episodes written by Hideki Sonoda|090]]
[[Category:Episodes by one-time storyboarders|090]]
[[Category:Episodes directed by Osamu Inoue|090]]
[[Category:Episodes animated by Shin'ichirō Kajiura|090]]
[[de:Theater, Theater... (Episode)]]
[[ja:無印編第90話]]

Talk:Chikorita (Pokémon)

2009-03-16T02:38:27Z

Riggins: /* Emerald Art */ new section

==Converting to Emerald Artwork?==

I notice that the Totodile Page has been given artwork from Emerald, so should we do the same for Cyndaquil and Chikorita?

:Go ahead we did that to the sinnoh starters--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 22:06, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
::-_- The Sinnoh starters didn't get artwork from Emerald, they got it from Platinum. Anyways, I suppose you could, but you'll have to upload the pictures. - [[User:SpontaneousCombusken|spontaneous'''Combusken''']] 22:13, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

::I knew what meant SpontaneousCombusken -_- I just wasn't being specific--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 22:47, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Is there emerald art o the archives? Pluss Croconaw has TCG art--[[User:David aipom|Davidaipom]] 17:41, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Still Sugimori art... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:33, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

== Mudkip Errors ==
It says on the Mudkip Page that [[Mudkip]] is the only quadruped [[starter Pokemon]].However, Chikorita and [[Turtwig]] are quadrupeds. I am going to edit that. --[[User:4XPokeX54Z009|I like articunos and mudkips!!!]] 11:52, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
:That's true, but if you have read it more clearly, it said, "Mudkip is the only '''Water-type starter that is quadrupedal.'''"[[User:Deathgabriel|Deat]][[User talk:Deathgabriel|hgab]][[User:Deathgabriel/SandBox|riel]] 11:56, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
::And why is this on the Chikorita page? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|10% Satisfaction Guaranteed!]] 16:20, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

== That's odd ==

This page says Grovyle and Chikorita have the same height that seem odd is this a error or are they really the same size? [[User:Riggins]]

That's definitely gotta be false... if that's on the page, its gotta be removed...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 00:52, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

:No It may seem wrong but they are the same size my PokeDex says so.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 00:59, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
::Well... what do ya(he, he... I said "ya") know? I checked on the Grovyle page and its true... they are the same size... except for the anime... Grovyle are huge in the anime...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 01:03, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

I just checked my pokedex too, but ya that Pokemon for you. Some how a first stage Pokemon is the same size as a basic stage Pokemon. So maybe that should be a trivia or some thing? I'm not sure if it's even important to point out.[[User:Riggins]]
:::In my opinion, I don't think much of it should be mentioned... maybe a bit, but not much...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 01:15, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

:::It would make a very funny "Did you know..." in my In my opinion[[User:Riggins]]
::::We don't have "Did you know..."s, though...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 01:52, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yes, we have them in the Main Page... Also, this is getting too much forum like... '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 17:42, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

== Emerald Art ==

Is there a better version of the Emerald art work? I don't mean to be picky but it looks kinda choppy --[[User:Riggins|Riggy (>0.0)>]] 02:38, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Pikachu short

2009-03-16T01:15:58Z

Riggins:

The {{p|Pikachu}} shorts are small movies that are shown at the start of the [[Pokémon movies]].

They feature only [[Pokémon]] almost exclusively, and chronicle miscellaneous adventures of [[Ash's Pikachu]].

==The shorts==
{| {{bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
!
! Screenshot
! English title
! Japanese title
! US broadcast
! Japan broadcast
|-
| [[PK01]]
| [[Image:Pikachu's Vacation.jpg|100px]]
| Pikachu's Vacation
| {{tt|ピカチュウのなつやすみ|Pikachu's Summer Vacation}}
| November 12, 1999
| July 18, 1998
|-
| [[PK02]]
| [[Image:WV1.jpg|100px]]
| Christmas Night
| {{tt|クリスマスであそぼ!|Let's Play on Christmas!}}
| rowspan=2 | November 25, 2006
| rowspan=2 | December 22, 1998
|-
| [[PK03]]
| [[Image:WV2.jpg|100px]]
| Kanga Games
| {{tt|雪であそぼ！|Let's Play in the Snow!}}
|-
| [[PK04]]
| [[Image:Pikachu's Rescue Adventure.jpg|100px]]
| Pikachu's Rescue Adventure
| {{tt|ピカチュウたんけんたい|The Pikachu Expedition}}
| July 21, 2000
| July 17, 1999
|-
| [[PK05]]
|
| Winter Games
| {{tt|こおりであそぼう|Let's Play in the Ice}}
| rowspan="2" |
| rowspan="2" | December 22, 1999
|-
| [[PK06]]
| [[Image:Wintervacations-01-stantler.jpg|100px|]]
| Stantler's Little Helpers
| {{tt|クリスマスの夜|Christmas Night}}
|-
| [[PK07]]
| [[Image:Pikachu&Pichu.jpg|100px]]
| Pikachu & Pichu
| {{tt|ピチューとピカチュウ|Pichu and Pikachu}}
| April 6, 2001
| July 8, 2000
|-
| [[PK08]]
| [[Image:WV5.jpg|100px|]]
| Delibird's Dilemma
| {{tt|デリバードのプレゼント|Delibird's Present}}
| rowspan="2" | June 17, 2006
| rowspan="2" | December 22, 2000
|-
| [[PK09]]
| [[Image:WV6.jpg|100px|]]
| Snorlax Snowman
| {{tt|ホワイトストーリー|White Story}}
|-
| [[PK10]]
| [[Image:PK10.jpg|100px|]]
| Pikachu's PikaBoo
| {{tt|ピカチュウのドキドキかくれんぼ|Pikachu's Exciting Hide-and-seek}}
| July 7, 2001
| October 11, 2002
|-
| [[PK11]]
| [[Image:PK11.jpg|100px|]]
| Camp Pikachu
| {{tt|ピカピカ星空キャンプ|Pikapika Starry Sky Camp}}
| May 16, 2003
| July 13, 2002
|-
| [[PK12]]
| [[Image:PK12.jpg|100px|]]
| Gotta Dance!!
| {{tt|おどるポケモンひみつ基地|Secret Base of the Dancing Pokémon}}
| June 1, 2004
| July 19, 2003
|-
| [[PK13]]
|
|
| {{tt|ピカチュウのなつまつり|Pikachu's Summer Festival}}
|
| August 1, 2004
|-
| [[PK14]]
|
|
| {{tt|ピカチュウのおばけカーニバル|Pikachu's Ghost Carnival}}
|
| August 1, 2005
|-
| [[PK15]]
|
|
| {{tt|ピカチュウのわんぱくアイランド|Pikachu's Naughty Island}}
|
| August 1, 2006
|-
| [[PK16]]
|
|
| {{tt|ピカチュウの探検クラブ|Pikachu's Exploration Club}}
|
| August 1, 2007
|-
| [[PK17]]
|
|
| {{tt|ピカチュウ氷の大冒険|Pikachu: The Ice Adventure}}
|
| August 1, 2008
|}

[[Category:Anime shorts|*]]

Pikachu short

2009-03-16T01:04:02Z

Riggins:

The {{p|Pikachu}} shorts are small movies that are shown at the start of the [[Pokémon movies]].

They feature only [[Pokémon]] almost exclusively, and chronicle miscellaneous adventures of [[Ash's Pikachu]].

==The shorts==
{| {{bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
!
! Screenshot
! English title
! Japanese title
! US broadcast
! Japan broadcast
|-
| [[PK01]]
| [[Image:Pikachu's Vacation.jpg|100px]]
| Pikachu's Vacation
| {{tt|ピカチュウのなつやすみ|Pikachu's Summer Vacation}}
| November 12, 1999
| July 18, 1998
|-
| [[PK02]]
| [[Image:WV1.jpg|100px]]
| Christmas Night
| {{tt|クリスマスであそぼ!|Let's Play on Christmas!}}
| rowspan=2 | November 25, 2006
| rowspan=2 | December 22, 1998
|-
| [[PK03]]
| [[Image:WV2.jpg|100px]]
| Kanga Games
| {{tt|雪であそぼ！|Let's Play in the Snow!}}
|-
| [[PK04]]
| [[Image:Pikachu's Rescue Adventure.jpg|100px]]
| Pikachu's Rescue Adventure
| {{tt|ピカチュウたんけんたい|The Pikachu Expedition}}
| July 21, 2000
| July 17, 1999
|-
| [[PK05]]
|
| Winter Games
| {{tt|こおりであそぼう|Let's Play in the Ice}}
| rowspan="2" |
| rowspan="2" | December 22, 1999
|-
| [[PK06]]
| [[Image:Wintervacations-01-stantler.jpg|100px|]]
| Stantler's Little Helpers
| {{tt|クリスマスの夜|Christmas Night}}
|-
| [[PK07]]
| [[Image:Pikachu&Pichu.jpg|100px]]
| Pikachu & Pichu
| {{tt|ピチューとピカチュウ|Pichu and Pikachu}}
| April 6, 2001
| July 8, 2000
|-
| [[PK08]]
| [[Image:WV5.jpg|100px|]]
| Delibird's Dilemma
| {{tt|デリバードのプレゼント|Delibird's Present}}
| rowspan="2" | June 17, 2006
| rowspan="2" | December 22, 2000
|-
| [[PK09]]
| [[Image:WV6.jpg|100px|]]
| Snorlax Snowman
| {{tt|ホワイトストーリー|White Story}}
|-
| [[PK10]]
| [[Image:PK10.jpg|100px|]]
| Pikachu's PikaBoo
| {{tt|ピカチュウのドキドキかくれんぼ|Pikachu's Exciting Hide-and-seek}}
| July 7, 2001
| October 11, 2002
|-
| [[PK11]]
| [[Image:PK11.jpg|100px|]]
| Camp Pikachu
| {{tt|ピカピカ星空キャンプ|Pikapika Starry Sky Camp}}
| May 16, 2003
| July 13, 2002
|-
| [[PK12]]
|
| Gotta Dance!!
| {{tt|おどるポケモンひみつ基地|Secret Base of the Dancing Pokémon}}
| June 1, 2004
| July 19, 2003
|-
| [[PK13]]
|
|
| {{tt|ピカチュウのなつまつり|Pikachu's Summer Festival}}
|
| August 1, 2004
|-
| [[PK14]]
|
|
| {{tt|ピカチュウのおばけカーニバル|Pikachu's Ghost Carnival}}
|
| August 1, 2005
|-
| [[PK15]]
|
|
| {{tt|ピカチュウのわんぱくアイランド|Pikachu's Naughty Island}}
|
| August 1, 2006
|-
| [[PK16]]
|
|
| {{tt|ピカチュウの探検クラブ|Pikachu's Exploration Club}}
|
| August 1, 2007
|-
| [[PK17]]
|
|
| {{tt|ピカチュウ氷の大冒険|Pikachu: The Ice Adventure}}
|
| August 1, 2008
|}

[[Category:Anime shorts|*]]

PK10

2009-03-16T00:50:30Z

Riggins:

{{EpicodePrevNext|
prevcode=PK09 |
prevtitle=Snorlax Snowman |
nextcode=PK11 |
nexttitle=Camp Pikachu! |
episodelist=Pikachu shorts |
colorscheme=Pika |
series=Pikachu shorts}}
{{EpisodeInfobox|
epcode= |
colorscheme=Pika |
title_en=Pikachu's PikaBoo |
title_ja=ピカチュウのドキドキかくれんぼ |
title_ja_trans=Pikachu's Exciting Hide-and-seek |
screen=yes|
screenshot=PK10.jpg |
broadcast_jp=July 7, 2001 |
broadcast_us=October 11, 2002 |
en_series=Pikachu short |
en_op=[[Pikachu's Coming]] |
ja_op=[[Hide and Seek]] |
ja_ed=[[The Midsummer's Big Strategy!]] |
olmteam= |
scenario= |
storyboard= |
director= |
art= |
footnotes= }}
'''Pikachu's PikaBoo''' (Japanese: '''ピカチュウのドキドキかくれんぼ''' ''Pikachu's Exciting Hide-and-seek'') is the fourth {{pkmn|anime}} {{wp|short subject|animated short}}.

==Synopsis==
The short starts off with {{AP|Pikachu}} and friends at a beach. Pikachu and {{TP|Misty|Togepi}} run into the water as the tide recedes and run away when the tide comes in. {{AP|Totodile}} is having fun in the shallow water, kicking it around. {{TP|Misty|Psyduck}} is floating in an inner tube before a huge wave knocks it out of the water. Meanwhile, {{AP|Bayleef}} and {{AP|Cyndaquil}} are having a nice rest in a shady spot near the beach. That is, until Totodile uses its {{m|Water Gun}} to wake up Cyndaquil. Cyndaquil then beings playfully chasing after Totodile.

Four {{p|Corsola}} walk by and an interested Togepi follows after them and into the ocean. Pikachu saw Togepi and raced over to try and help it. Luckily for Pikachu, a {{p|Wailmer}} was there. It lifted Togepi on its back and shot it into the air. A {{p|Yanma}} flew by, catching Togepi on its back, and set it back down on dry land. Once Yanma flew away, the gang chased after it, seeing a mansion as they did.

At the mansion, a {{p|Larvitar}}, {{p|Kecleon}}, and {{p|Granbull}} are all making sure that the mansion and garden are clean and safe. Larvitar first spots a chair that it leaning over and tells Granbull to fix it. Then it spots a rock that has fallen off a plant holder, which it fixes itself. Just then, the gang shows up. Togepi follows a few {{p|Sunkern}}, bouncing up and down with them. However, Togepi lost its balance, and knocked over the rock Larvitar just fixed. Larvitar looked angrily at Togepi, but Pikachu was right there to defend it. Unlike Larvitar, Granbull and Kecleon seemed happy to find knew friends. Granbull called out to the Pokémon in the garden. {{p|Sunflora}}, {{p|Oddish}}, {{p|Sandshrew}}, {{p|Azurill}}, and {{p|Donphan}} came running over, introducing themselves to the gang.

When Pikachu tried to get Larvitar to come over, Larvitar walked off in a huff. Pikachu, although distraught, decided it would be fun to play a game of hide n' seek. The other Pokémon happily joined in. Pikachu picked up a small stick with a leaf hanging on one side and tossed it into the air. As the Pokémon tried to blow the stick away from themselves, the song ''[[Pikachu's Coming]]'' started to play in the background. Finally, the leaf fell and landed toward Pikachu.

Pikachu was 'it' and ran to count. All of the other Pokémon ran to hide, all but Togepi who wanted to count with Pikachu. However, {{AP|Bulbasaur}} picked Togepi up with its vines and ran off.

The first one to hide was Oddish, who dug a hole in the ground and hid so that only its leaves were showing. Bulbasaur ran by Azurill and set down Togepi. Granbull and Cyndaquil ran past, so Togepi decided to follow after Cyndaquil.

Meanwhile, Sunflora was trying to find a place to hide. It hid in the wrong types of flowers, making Sandshrew laugh. It hid in another type of flower, but that was wrong, too, so Kecleon laughed. Kecleon was then seen hiding behind a small column and turning itself invisible. Bulbasaur was shown under the ground.

The screen then switched to Totodile dancing along a few platforms, and Donphan desperately trying to find a good place to hide. Granbull, Togepi, Cyndaquil, Psyduck, and Azurill were seen running toward a flight of stairs and then straight up them. They then came to another flight of stairs that only Granbull and Cyndaquil ran up. Togepi and Psyduck went off to the left and Azurill ran off to the right.

Togepi was seen in a small room near a couch. It looked out the window and waved 'hi' to the Yanma. Cyndaquil and Granbull were in a hallway. Azurill ran across a small platform with a goofy grin on its face. Psyduck tried to squeeze its head in a small space in what seemed to be a kitchen, but it was to no avail. It tried once again to place its head between a counter and refrigerator, but it was still no good. Then Cyndaquil and Granbull are shown in a sort of living room. Cyndaquil found a small space it was able to fit in; however, Granbull tried to also fit in, causing Cyndaquil to run away.

Granbull is shown having a hard time trying to fit into the tight space. It then used its cheeks to push the dresser and make the space larger so it was able to fit. Azurill is seen outside in a small pond-like enclosure, hiding under the water. Finally, Psyduck is seen struggling to fit into a small space.

The camera shows the whole mansion while Yanma flies by. As soon as Pikachu is finished the counting, the song ends and Pikachu runs off down a small flight of stone stairs. Larvitar is seen from the corner of the screen, looking angrily at Pikachu. It picks up the stick Pikachu had thrown into the air and observes it.

Meanwhile, {{MTR}} and {{TP|Jessie|Wobbuffet}} are seen mowing the lawn in the garden. As soon as Meowth states that it was the easiest job, the lawnmower breaks down, so Meowth claims it was the end of mowing the lawn.

Pikachu is then searching for the other Pokémon, looking through the garden. Pikachu makes it to the sunflower section and walks in, looking for the Pokémon. It then notices Sunflora and decides to trick it by turning away. Once Sunflora turns to look at Pikachu, Pikachu looks back at it and catches it, making Sunflora the first Pokémon out. Pikachu then walks through what seems like a maze and sees something unusual about the end of one wall. Once the wall fidgets around, Pikachu founds out that it's really Sandshrew. Sandshrew is the next Pokémon out.

Pikachu makes its way toward a fountain and looks around it, noticing a miniature fountain that isn't supposed to be there. Pikachu holds its breath and looks under the water. A {{p|Chinchou}} swam by and toward Totodile who was making the water fly into the air. Pikachu took its head out from under the water and ran over to be closer to Totodile. It then stopped the water and tickling Totodile's nose and making it come out. Totodile was the next Pokémon out.

The screen switches to Larvitar near Donphan. Pikachu walked by and Larvitar hid behind Donphan. It then got the idea to push Donphan, so it pushed the Donphan down the cliff and at Pikachu. Pikachu was able to escape the Donphan, however, Donphan wasn't so lucky and fell straight into a bush. Sadly, Donphan knew it was the fourth Pokémon out.

Pikachu then took a look inside of the mansion. It decided to head toward the living room first and saw Togepi on the couch, hiding in its shell. Pikachu tickled Togepi, getting it to come out. Togepi was the fifth Pokémon out. Togepi followed Pikachu around as Pikachu came to a small fireplace. Pikachu took one look and saw the blue fur of a Cyndaquil who was using its flame to act the fireplace was only lit. Pikachu called it out and Cyndaquil was the sixth Pokémon out.

Meanwhile, Larvitar was angrily kicking the ground. It kicked a small pebble straight into the out of order lawnmower, causing it to go on the loose. Fortunately, Larvitar was able to avoid the lawnmower both times it came at it. Bulbasaur was nearly ran over. Pikachu and the Pokémon in the mansion saw the lawnmower chase down Sunflora and Sunkern as if it had a mind of its own. Both Bulbasaur and Donphan ran over to the lawnmower. Bulbasaur tried a {{m|Razor Leaf}} to stop it, but it only made the lawnmower turn toward Donphan and Bulbasaur. Donphan tried to stop it with {{m|Rollout}}, but the lawnmower bust right through it.

The lawnmower chased Pikachu, Totodile, Cynaquil, and Togepi down a hill. Oddish popped out from under the ground and turned to see the lawnmower. It, too, took off. Pikachu was the first to stand and fight, using {{m|Thunderbolt}}. The lawnmower was unfazed and simply brought out its chainsaws. Next, Totodile tried to fight it with a Water Gun, but that didn't even slow the lawnmower down. Afterwards, Cyndaquil tried to use {{m|Flamethrower}}, but somehow the lawnmower moved out of the way. Cyndaquil chased it with Flamethower, but the lawnmower jumped over each one until it landed behind Cyndaquil.

The camera switched to an unweary Meowth and Wobbuffet who were going to sweep out the chimneys. Meowth heard Pikachu yelling and turned to see some of the Pokémon running toward him. Once the gang ran past them, the lawnmower came at Meowth and Wobbuffet, chasing them down. Meowth and Wobbuffet tried to use the sweeps to stop the lawnmower, but the chainsaws cut the sweeps down. The lawnmower used its whole body to fling Meowth and Wobbuffet into a chimney.

The camera moves to a small field with bushes on either side. Pikachu is seen at the beginning, running from the lawnmower. Cyndaquil and Totodile ran from the lawnmower. Then Oddish, Sunflora, Granbull, and Azurill ran from the lawnmower in a {{wp|Scooby-Doo|setting familiar with American children}}. Psyduck ran across the screen from nothing. Soon afterwards, Bulbasaur, Sandshrew, and Donphan were seen running from the lawnmower with Psyduck running in the opposite direction. Psyduck tripped and fell, immediately standing up and running. Pikachu and Togepi were shown running from the lawnmower, and Psyduck was running from nothing again.

Pikachu, Togepi, Granbull, Cyndaquil, and Totodile were seen running through a maze to get away from the runaway lawnmower. They, unfortunately, ran to a dead end. Right before the lawnmower ran at them, they made a break for it down the opposite way. The camera showed the whole maze and the gang running through it with the lawnmower after them every step of the way. Finally, the gang came across Larvitar who told them to follow it. They turned a corner and Larvitar waited for the lawnmower to come by. Once it did, Larvitar kicked the lawnmower to a dead end.

The lawnmower got stuck there and the gang walked off. Once out of the maze, the gang thought they were safe. However, the lawnmower got out new equipment and tore through the maze, once again chasing after the gang. They ran toward a flower pot and a tree with a swing attached. Granbull jumped onto the flower pot, whereas Pikachu, Togepi, Cyndaquil, Totodile, and Larvitar ran up the tree. The lawnmower used its circular saws to cut down the tree and continue chasing after the gang. The only ones left behind were Granbull, Totodile, and Cyndaquil.

Togepi, Pikachu, and Larvitar continued to run from the lawnmower. They ran across a dock and toward the end where the ocean stopped them from going any further. Right before the lawnmower hit them, they grabbed onto the poles keeping the dock from going under. The lawnmower diced through the poles and into the water where Togepi, Pikachu, and Larvitar thought they were safe.

However, the lawnmower came out of the water and continued its chase. Meanwhile, the commotion woke Bayleef up.

Finally, Larvitar had an idea and called the Pokémon to its side. The lawnmower chased after Pikachu and Togepi as Larvitar and the others put logs down to keep the lawnmower on a track. Larvitar called Pikachu over and Pikachu was able to get the lawnmower to chase it up the track the Pokémon had made. It was all going smoothly until Psyduck ran over with one of the logs and tripped. The log flew at the lawnmower and knocked it off course and at Psyduck.

Luckily Bayleef was there and used {{m|Vine Whip}} to fling the lawnmower back on course. Finally, the lawnmower was headed right for the shed outside. Once inside, Pikachu and Larvitar shut the doors. The lawnmower was heard struggling around as the Pokémon looked to the shed in anticipation. The doors opened again and the lawnmower slowly wheeled out, falling apart right in front of them. The Pokémon rejoiced.

Meanwhile, Kecleon was still hiding behind the column. It turned itself visible again and looked around, confused as to why Pikachu hadn't found it yet.

The camera showed the Pokémon cleaning up the garden after the lawnmower wrecked it.

Meowth and Wobbuffet are seen getting out of the chimney. Finally, after a long day, Larvitar decided to join in a game of hide n' seek. When it threw the stick into the air, the leaf fell off, so all of the Pokémon started to blow on the leaf. The leaf finally landed and pointed to Larvitar. Larvitar took it well and began to count. Togepi, again, tried to count as well, but Pikachu took Togepi away. The camera pans out to show the sunset sky and the ocean, ending the short.

==Major events==
===Debuts===
*{{p|Larvitar}}
*{{p|Corsola}}
*{{p|Wailmer}}
*{{p|Azurill}}

==Characters==
===Humans===
===Pokémon===
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OP|Ash|Pikachu}})
* {{p|Meowth}} ({{TRM}})
* {{p|Togepi}} ({{OP|Misty|Togepi}})
* {{p|Wobbuffet}} ({{OP|Jessie|Wobbuffet}})
* {{p|Bulbasaur}} ({{OP|Ash|Bulbasaur}})
* {{p|Bayleef}} ({{OP|Ash|Bayleef}})
* {{p|Cyndaquil}} ({{OP|Ash|Cyndaquil}})
* {{p|Totodile}} ({{OP|Ash|Totodile}})
* {{p|Psyduck}} ({{OP|Misty|Psyduck}})
* {{p|Larvitar}}
* {{p|Donphan}}
* {{p|Sandshrew}}
* {{p|Oddish}}
* {{p|Kecleon}}
* {{p|Granbull}}
* {{p|Sunflora}}
* {{p|Azurill}}
* {{p|Yanma}}
* {{p|Corsola}}
* {{p|Wailmer}}
* {{p|Sunkern}}
* {{p|Chinchou}}

==Trivia==
* This short has never been released in Italy for unknown reasons.

===Errors===
===Dub edits===

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Talk:HS03

2009-03-15T23:30:50Z

Riggins: New page: The layout seems to be really out of whack for some reason --~~~~

The layout seems to be really out of whack for some reason --[[User:Riggins|Riggy (>0.0)>]] 23:30, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk:EP013

2009-03-11T22:32:34Z

Riggins: /* Replacement? */ new section

"Also in The Legend of Dratini guns are pointed at the heads of several humans while in this episode the bazooka is only pointed at Pokémon." As if that makes it okay. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:48, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

== Bill, a Pokémon watcher? ==

Seriously? Was that mentioned in the Japanese version? If so, he should be added to the list of Pokémon watchers. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 03:37, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

== Replacement? ==

[[Image:EP013snap-543155.png‎]]

I was wondering if you needed a replacement screenshot since I see the unsatisfactory image tag for the page or I can get any shot you think would be better. I dunno if this works because I can't seem to find the page image standards. --[[User:Riggins|Riggy (>0.0)>]] 22:32, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

User talk:The dark lord trombonator/Archive2

2009-03-09T12:44:40Z

Riggins: /* Delete Account */ new section

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*[[Version-exclusive Pokémon|Snaps for TROM!]]
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*Fix the [[special:WantedPages|Wanted Pages]]
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I call myself [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]], but I will also repsond to "asshole", "jerk", and "jackass". I moved to Bulbapedia after more than two years and 2,600 edits of experience on {{wp|User:The dark lord trombonator|Wikipedia}}, although I have not and never will focus on any Pokémon articles. I've had my problems with the administration system here in the past, but in the past three months I've seen Bulbapedia grow and evolve. And now, for some godforsaken reason, I've actually grown to like the place, despite the fact that almost every rule is unwritten and expected to be common knowledge. I don't do anime. I don't do manga. I don't do TCG. I do do main series, specialising in Generation IV. I do clean up poorly written pages. And I do know how to make fancy templates. Despite my limited scope, I got to number four on [[BP:TCM|the list in December '08]]. I'll take questions, complaints, insults, tasks and praise - just make sure you leave it in a new section. The only user I'm sure I'll ever trust here is {{u|Beligaronia}}, but don't let that stop you from making an effort. To contact me privately, use [[Special:EmailUser/The_dark_lord_trombonator|email]]. I do have AIM and MSN but you'll have to ask nicely to be allowed access to those. But for now: go and edit in peace.
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'''''[[/Archive1|Talk Page Archives]]''' (because apparently deleting is bad)''

== Gen IV ==

Thanks for putting the Pt Gym Leader update on the Gen IV page.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/Secret Page|X]] 22:22, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

== Preview ==

I know, I know, But just one question, Are you using the Preview Button?--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|Force]] [[User:Force Fire|''Fire'']] [[User talk:Force Fire|''talk'']] 08:52, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, when I can. It's hard to tell with some aspects of templates though, but I assure every single user on this site that I am using as few edits as possible. Would you mind commenting on what I've done, if you haven't already? Thanks. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 08:56, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:: It's alright, it's much easier to understand than the other thing we have. But yet again it may cause a problem as some users are used to the template we have now.--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|Force]] [[User:Force Fire|''Fire'']] [[User talk:Force Fire|''talk'']] 08:59, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Dammit, not that thing called "tradition" again!?! You wouldn't believe the number of times I've seen this cited as a way not to improve an article. Besides, by turning it around as I have demonstrated we can get rid of the stupid bold red text. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:14, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Well, I wasn't going to say "tradition", But you know, [[User:TTEchidna|people these days]]. But its good.
:::: And how about combining?--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|Force]] [[User:Force Fire|''Fire'']] [[User talk:Force Fire|''talk'']] 09:20, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Actually, it hasn't just been him. He was one of the culprits a few months ago but I think after all his moz-borders he's moved on a bit... What do you mean by "combining"? — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:22, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::: Like if two Pokémon can be found in two or more games, Are they gonna be seperate or are they going to be in the same box?--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|Force]] [[User:Force Fire|''Fire'']] [[User talk:Force Fire|''talk'']] 09:24, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::You mean like Clamperl appearing in DP but not Pt? Or have I missed your point? — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:25, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::: Yeah, That's my point.--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|Force]] [[User:Force Fire|''Fire'']] [[User talk:Force Fire|''talk'']] 09:26, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::See [[Talk:Version-exclusive Pokémon|my table at the bottom]]. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:27, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::: Oh alright.--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|Force]] [[User:Force Fire|''Fire'']] [[User talk:Force Fire|''talk'']] 09:29, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

== A conversation ==

Hey--if you wouldn't mind, could you drop me a line on AIM? I have a few questions for you. My handle is IMfromEvan. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 05:00, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:Dropping any of us an AIM message would also be good, hint hint. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:33, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

== Can I have your AIM? ==

Please...?--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 05:13, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

thanks for the suggestions about the timer, I have asked [[User:Poke|Poke]]. Sorry bout the late reply, I got really dodgy internet.'''[[User:MysteryHeff?|MysteryHeff?]]''' [[User Talk:MysteryHeff?|TALK]] 11:36, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer, but I accidentally centered everything, but I like it centered, and to fix it you dot this <code></center></code> dont you?--'''[[User:MysteryHeff?|MỸSTЄЯỸЊӘFF]]''' [[User Talk:MysteryHeff?|TALK]] 02:06, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

:Pssst. When you read the speech on my page did you get the reference.....[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 02:09, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
::I basically took the words of Marc Antony's famous speech from ''Julius Caesar''(The play) and added in some hyperlinks and twisted a few words. In my view, we need specific admins. nuf said.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 11:29, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

== Content box ==
Thanks so much for helping me with the content box. I really do appreciate it. May i ask...how did you do it? I suck at wikicoding and i'm trying so hard to learn it.--'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 02:21, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
:Resolved. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 08:14, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks (Again) ==

Hey thanks, but would you be able to out it on my page for me? Because it isn't working when i try it, if you could it would be heavily appreciated, thanks.--'''[[User:MysteryHeff?|MỸSTЄЯỸЊӘFF]][[User:MysteryHeff?/Trade Mark Pokémon|™]]''' ([[User Talk:MysteryHeff?|TALK]]) 07:54, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
:Resolved. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 08:14, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

==Help me out here.==

I need some articles that need editing. I don't want to be banned like you said some users have, so help me! [[User:Telme|Telme]] 19:57, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
:Replied on [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Telme&diff=prev&oldid=641359 your talk page]. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 08:14, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

==Thanks==

If it weren't for you, I would have been screwed. BTW, can you help me edit my custom user tags? I need different colors. [[User:Telme|Telme]] 22:11, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:Replied on [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Telme&diff=prev&oldid=643943 your talk page]. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 03:14, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

== Hhmm ==

Why do you trust Beligaronia? The wikipedia {{wp|Beligaronia}} says that they are totally insane! If they are the same people, this Beligaronia is also insane! Are you LOCO IN THE COCO?! If, shockingly, you don't know what that means, it means "Is something "''WRONG''" with your head?!", or something in that similar nature of shouting directly in your ear while you're reading something like a very rare chapter of Pokémon Special, if you ever got your hands on one.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 10:59, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

:Yes, my friend Bela is a certified loony.... </sarcasm> Not everything you read on the internet can be taken as verbatim truth. I read on your user page that you are, in fact, Romanian, but I have no knowledge that this, or anything else you say, is true. The fact that I refer to him as the one person I can trust is based on the fact that a) I know him in real life, and b) almost every user on this site is incredibly hostile, a group that you may now find yourself in. If this message was to take advantage of my offer of talk page abuse (see my green box), you've had your chance, so thank you and goodbye. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:42, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Trom... yeah... sorry... you've got a good point about the net... I myself can sometimes act a little loony, you know how I said about shouting directly in your ear while you're reading something like a very rare chapter of Pokémon Special, if you ever got your hands on one........ and I was just wondering why did you say you ONLY trust Bela... I think its a DIFFERENT level of trust... REAL trust cause you know Bela in real life... though you may not entirely believe it... I am Romanian and I didn't mean for this message seeming like talk page abuse and I really don't abuse talk pages. Here's an example: "Talk:Porygon-Z ("DP-P" Promo 106)". but in that internet-Bulbapedia-editing-kinda-trust, '''''I''''' trust you, cause you make nice edits.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 07:06, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

:Thank you. I've seen you around, and you appear to make good edits. I was only surprised by your tone. This is clearly a reminder to everyone here to think before you write. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 08:25, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

== Backrounds ==

idk what to call them, but, what you did to TMs. i know its after the fact, but, im going to make a template for those right now. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:06, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:Well.... that's only an hour or so down the drain.... :( — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 02:07, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::i was working on those type-tables and thinking "boy, we really need one of those templates..." but, better late than never i guess. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:09, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I thought about it yesterday, and was like "stuff it, I can't be bothered having to find/create/guess coding for a template again..."... — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 02:11, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::::well, bother no more! im going to make a contest one as well. not sure what else we could need. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:13, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Oops, forgot that one. Cool. Do you want me to update the page again or will you do it and I find something else? (And seeing as you're making templates work good, can you fix the entry template at [[Old Chateau]] to make the Dongle go purple. I tried [[User: The dark lord trombonator/Template Sandbox|here]] to little success, so any help would be nice) — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 02:16, 31 January 2009
::::::hmm, im not so sure about that one. ill ask TTE. meanwhile, if you want to do the TM page again you can. i was going to go do all the types pages. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:20, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Dongles for all five Gen III games shouldn't go purple. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:27, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::::It is on {{p|Gengar}} though. I assumed because they are ghost type? Just like how I made the dongle for underleveled Staravia and Bibarel the normal color. Having color would give consistency for all Dongles. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 02:37, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

== Templates ==
Can you give me a template for my pokemon party? I cant seem to copy one right.--[[User:Blaziken=Tahu|Blaziken=Tahu]] 23:13, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Blaziken%3DTahu&diff=prev&oldid=652057 Replied] on your talk page. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 23:14, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

== He WAS ==

Urutapu WAS ignoring me. See it? He never told me what those romanisations are from. I hate pointless Engrish and he knows that. He should tell me it. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 09:05, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:He shouldn't do anything if you're going to be angry, yell about it and threaten him. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:07, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

== Since you say you need it... ==

(Use preview warning)[[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|10% Satisfaction Guaranteed!]] 01:55, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:Cheers, Fiddler. :D — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:56, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

== {{u|Thwomp Master}}'s User Page ==
Good work on decategorizing {{u|Thwomp Master}}'s user page. Very impressive. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 00:02, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks! It took quite a bit of work, I tell you. Good to see you back though, Ryguy: you and Tina are names I knew from trawling the talk pages before I finally registered an account. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 00:05, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
::It's glad to be back. I look forward to working with you and the other new users. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 00:06, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

== Signature! ==

It works now!!! thank you for your help!---[[User:Goldenwolf|GoLdEn]]''[[User talk:Goldenwolf|WoLf]]'' 01:55, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Goldenwolf&diff=prev&oldid=676981 Replied] on your talk page. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 02:31, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

== Categories ==

Please don't remove categories from pages in encyclopedic namespaces, such as what you did on [[List of moves]]. All pages in encyclopedic namespaces must be categorized, with the one and only exception of the [[Main Page]]. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:19, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
:Whoops, that was an accident in trying to update the page with the {{template|typetable}} templates; unfortunately my computer froze halfway and {{u|Sol}} finished it off for me, obviously not noticing the missing categories. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 20:03, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

== Oi, you! ==

Get out of the freaking userspace! You're clogging up the recent changes, and not even marking them all as minor so I can't even hide them! Start using "show preview" or something. Grr. Not happy. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:49, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
:Trom, are you talk to yourself again? You know its the first sign of madness.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 09:53, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
::No, second sign. First sign is no userpage, but a ton of userspace edits. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:54, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Haha. I demand you to make a [[User:The dark lord trombonator|userpage]], NOW.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 09:57, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
::::All in good time, my son. It'll take a year or two of no userspace editing to make up for what I'm doing for you and your trainer class project. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:58, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Awwwwww. Thanks for all your doing.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 10:00, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Given up have we?--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 11:19, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
:Well, it was after midnight, and I had work from nine..... I thought a temporary pause might be in order. I do apologise for not asking permission from you beforehand :p Anyway, there are some bugs. I'll look into it in due time. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:11, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
::Yep, sure. Anytime you want.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 09:30, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

== Wikipedia ==

The name change is already done! And yeah I heard from Tall Napolean <nowiki>(Wikipedian User)</nowiki> about that too. Apparently I had enough edits to be able to change my name but it's all right now. --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 20:37, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

== Hi ==

Thanks buddy for praising my edits.
THNX Again
--♫♪[[User talk:Adyniz|'''Adyniz''']]♪♫ 11:22, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

== Something something user talk space ==

A block is heading your way, pal. And I know you haven't finished your userspaced projects either... So when you get back to them (and you better!), I'm gonna jump on you from a great height. Grr. Not happy. The mainspace needs love too, you know. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 11:34, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
:tis tis. I'm very disappointed in the both of you.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 11:40, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

== images ==

I mistakenly uploaded images thinking there not there but every time I go to view a page the sprites are not there and when I try to click on them I'm informed they do not exist even though there in archive. Also now other picture are not showing up as well.--[[User:Riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]] 05:31, 6 March 2009 (UTC)--[[User:Riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]] 05:31, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
:Do you mean these two? ([http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Spr_4p_430_s.png]/[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Spr_4p_430.png]) I'm not sure what's at fault here; perhaps the page has cached. To remedy this, go to the page in question ({{p|Honchkrow|unless I'm mistaken, this one}}), and if the pictures are not present, click on the clock at the top of the page, or follow [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Honchkrow_(Pok%C3%A9mon)?action=purge this link] instead. Hope I helped! — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:11, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

::I started seeing them soon after but now it happening to other sprites and some pokemon pictures. I will try this next time I see the problem. --[[User:Riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]] 20:11, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

== Regarding the user... ==

...the backward named one. Interesting. Block or no is the question... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 05:05, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
:I'm voting yes, and an unblock for when he/she adopts a cleaner name. Just making my stance official. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 05:07, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
::Now to move to TTE... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 05:08, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
:::After the blocking of the page anyway... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 05:08, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
::::He knows. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 05:09, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::Right...forgot... And so does the {{tt|blocker|Kogoro}}. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 05:10, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

== Delete Account ==

look it's not working out here and I messed up to much and now no one will take me serous so can you remove my account. I will not make a new one and I don't plan to come back. I just think it's for the best so please if you can. I,m very serous, I just want to bow out gracefully. --[[User:Riggins|Riggy (>0.0)>]] 12:44, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

User talk:Riggins

2009-03-09T03:13:56Z

Riggins: /* AHHH!!!! */

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==Seriously stop!==
Ok its confirmed croagunk is male people are even talking about it now on its talk page that its a guy. And im not the only one undoing your edits ok so stop! [[User:Happizelpom|Happi]][[User talk:Happizelpom|zel]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|pom]] 02:52, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
:...s/he hasn't changed it for almost an hour now... '''~ overgrown'''[[User:Sol|s]][[User_talk:Sol|o]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|l]] 02:53, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

i know but s/he has done it 3 times already so i think we should tell this person to stop cuz s/he might do it again [[User:Happizelpom|Happi]][[User talk:Happizelpom|zel]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|pom]] 02:54, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

ugh ok you win, why do I have to keep this on my page if it resolved? {{unsigned|Riggins}}

==Talk Page Comments==
Please don't erase talk page comments for no reason. Trust me, you do NOT want to end up like {{u|Big Johnno}}, who got into an edit war with [[User:Fabu-Vinny|a sysop]] over comments the former had erased and was trying to keep erased. That user ended up blocked and subsequently had every erased comment restored. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 04:02, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
:<big><big>NO REALLY STOP TAKING OFF THE COMMENT!</big></big>--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 04:08, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Why do you care any way? I said I'd stop so that's the end of it {{unsigned|Riggins}}
:All comments are kept as a history. No exceptions. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 04:11, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

== Signature ==

Don't waste time typing it manually. Use the signature button above the editing window or write this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. Much easier! — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:40, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks for the advice
--Riggy(>0.0)> 09:50, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
::And hows about you check the "raw signatures" box in your preferences too...... lol. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:48, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Don't forget the link to your userpage or usertalk though! That is important. (Sorry if it seems like I'm nagging.....) — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:57, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

== Replied ==

[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_dark_lord_trombonator&diff=prev&oldid=697023 On my talk page]. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:12, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

== '''AHHH!!!!''' ==
You '''''MAY NOT''''' have sprites or images of anykind in your text. Please remove them immediately. Thank you. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 02:39, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
:In a more polite way, {{bp|signature policy|read this}}. It lists the can-do's and can't-do's of signatures. (One of which is no images under any circumstances). — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 03:04, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

:: Thank you for tell me in the '''RIGHT WAY''' about my folly.

@Theryguy512 I don't like being yelled at when just simply stating what wrong will do. You can just tell me what I did wrong with out shouting and barking orders like your a admin! You catch more flys with honey so I would like it kindy the next time you have a problem with me '''NOT''' to go berate me like I can't under stand things without shouting. --[[User:Riggins|Riggy (>0.0)>]] 03:13, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Magnemite (Pokémon)

2009-03-09T02:36:08Z

Riggins: /* Type effectiveness */

== Type effectiveness ==

Shouldn't the "type effectiveness" box of Magnemite / Magneton be redone somewhat, since many of the original alignments before the release of Gen II have been overlooked in the notes below? eg. The Dragon-type hasn't been acknowledged as previously doing 1x damage, nor has the Fire-type's or Fighting-type's 1x effectiveness due to the lack of the Steel-type in Gen I. The existing type alignment notes are also rather disordered, when they could be more efficiently grouped into 1x and 0.5x.

[[User:H4r8z0r|H4r8z0r]] 19:26, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
:I'll fix that... As for the 0.5× vs ½ thing... well, I'm absolutely certain that decimals would confuse people. I once had a guy ask me whether 0.6 or 0.5 was half. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:35, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Right, cool. Sorry, I meant 1/2x actually, not 0.5x; I didn't mean to differentiate between the two different ways of writing "one half", only to point out that they could be grouped as "normally effective" [1x] and "not very effective..." [1/2x] to make reading easier.
But thanks!

[[User:H4r8z0r|H4r8z0r]] 20:03, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

== Shiny ==

"Magnemite's Generation II shiny sprite incorrectly shows the ends of the magnets being colored, unlike the further generation's sprites."

I'm just curious but was there a correct shiny version at the time of gen II's release or did the magnets having no color happen later? Just wondering --http://i42.tinypic.com/2mg79qa.jpg [[User:Riggins|Riggy (>0.0)>]] 02:35, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Magnemite (Pokémon)

2009-03-09T02:35:37Z

Riggins:

== Type effectiveness ==

Shouldn't the "type effectiveness" box of Magnemite / Magneton be redone somewhat, since many of the original alignments before the release of Gen II have been overlooked in the notes below? eg. The Dragon-type hasn't been acknowledged as previously doing 1x damage, nor has the Fire-type's or Fighting-type's 1x effectiveness due to the lack of the Steel-type in Gen I. The existing type alignment notes are also rather disordered, when they could be more efficiently grouped into 1x and 0.5x.

[[User:H4r8z0r|H4r8z0r]] 19:26, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
:I'll fix that... As for the 0.5× vs ½ thing... well, I'm absolutely certain that decimals would confuse people. I once had a guy ask me whether 0.6 or 0.5 was half. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:35, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Right, cool. Sorry, I meant 1/2x actually, not 0.5x; I didn't mean to differentiate between the two different ways of writing "one half", only to point out that they could be grouped as "normally effective" [1x] and "not very effective..." [1/2x] to make reading easier.
But thanks!

[[User:H4r8z0r|H4r8z0r]] 20:03, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

"Magnemite's Generation II shiny sprite incorrectly shows the ends of the magnets being colored, unlike the further generation's sprites."

I'm just curious but was there a correct shiny version at the time of gen II's release or did the magnets having no color happen later? Just wondering --http://i42.tinypic.com/2mg79qa.jpg [[User:Riggins|Riggy (>0.0)>]] 02:35, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

User:Riggins

2009-03-07T22:24:59Z

Riggins:

Well this my page..........ya

 

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name=Riggins |
jname=ユキ |
tmname=Yuki |
slogan=yes |
sloganline="The Rock-Loving Honor Student" |
slogan=no |
image=http://i42.tinypic.com/2mg79qa.jpg|
caption=Breeder |
age=yes |
years=22 |
gender=Female |
hometown=[[Rustboro City]] |
region=[[Hoenn]] |
relatives=no |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Pokémon Trainer]] [[Pokémon Breeder]] |
game=no |
leader=no |
team=no |
brain=no |
anime=no |
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=====Information=====
I'm kinda to lazy to edit it right now

Help talk:Contents

2009-03-07T22:23:01Z

Riggins: /* Not seeing some images */

== Hey ==
Isn't it a bit embarrassing that the main help page links to two non-existant project pages? I'd consider either removing the links completely or starting the articles, no matter how little text there'd be. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 16:26, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
:Bump. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 22:57, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
::If you're not willing to answer or edit those links out yourselves, please at least make it available for editing. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 19:46, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Know how many edits are made a day in the RC? Near 500. We can't respond on every talk page... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:16, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Yeah... I was only trying to make the odds higher by bumping it, but now as I've got my opinion through, I can't do anything but thank you. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 00:50, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

==I need help==

Where's the list of Pokemon in the TCG with two types? [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 23:17, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:Replied on [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TorchicBlaziken&diff=prev&oldid=641371 your talk page]. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 08:19, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

== Not seeing some images ==

http://i41.tinypic.com/343kxg3.jpg

This keep happening to me and when I click on the link I get

''"No file by this name exists, you can upload it."'' '''Not just this page''' but many as well...

If any one can help I'd be grateful. --[[User:Riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]] 04:06, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
:That, er, means that the file doesn't exist and you can upload it. '''~ overgrown[[User:Sol|s]][[User talk:Sol|o]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|l]]''' 04:11, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

::Odd when I upload said image it state there is a file by that name so I wonder how is there a PNG if it does not or has never existed? AND the file that ''the file doesn't exist'' shows up in archive? Can you explain this to me...--[[User:Riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]] 04:22, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
:::It means that no one's had a chance to upload it yet. That happens with the sprites. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:44, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

:::: But when I check it, the sprites do exist and then when I try to upload a replacement I still can not see the sprite and I find there is a sprite for it already uploaded. It's not showing up for me.--[[User:Riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]] 06:22, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::I'm not seeing any sprites at those filenames on the wiki at all. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:29, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Spr_4p_065_m.png it said it's a duplicate of http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:065.png which is just one of the sprites not showing. If indeed this sprite is the missing Platinum sprite for Alakazam. If it exists why does it and others not show up on the page? and if as you say it was not uploaded then why is there it's sprite in that link. I'm very confused why I'm not seeing these images. --[[User:Riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]] 06:36, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

:: TTEchidna your even using said sprite on your page --[[User:Riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]] 06:38, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

:::You might have to make a null edit to the page with the sprite table in question to get the image to show up. A "null edit" is simply going into the editing phase, changing absolutely nothing, and hitting "Save page". It won't show up in the recent changes, but it works to refresh images and the like. (Edits that do show up in the recent changes also work to refresh images.) --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:14, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

:::: I dunno what's wrong I did like you said but the images in question still do not show. On the other hand the sprite I uplaoded is now showing up on the page. --http://i42.tinypic.com/2mg79qa.jpg [[User:Riggins|Riggy (>0.0)>]] 22:23, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Metagross (Pokémon)

2009-03-07T09:32:36Z

Riggins: /* See like a wha? */ new section

why is there no gen IV tm data for this pokemon?
~Reaper0fAnguish

Because We haven't put it there yet. {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]][http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe δ]{{ani|282}} 04:05, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

== See like a wha? ==

"''Metagross can see like a computer as well.''"

Erh...may I request this be reworded. --[[User:Riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]] 09:32, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Help talk:Contents

2009-03-07T06:38:27Z

Riggins: /* Not seeing some images */

Help talk:Contents

2009-03-07T06:36:19Z

Riggins: /* Not seeing some images */

Help talk:Contents

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I propose a new category -- "Running Gags". I'd start it myself, but I forget how to make a new category ^-^; -- [[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]] 00:55, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
:How many running gags do we have articles on? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 01:09, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
::I have no idea. Not blasting off though I think. And the list. If it was complete, the list would be extremely long. The fantasy happened in almost every episode. That list is really incomplete.[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|Maniac]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]] 01:10, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
:::I know it is incomplete - that's why I put the incomplete template in and said so in the creation summary. But the whole point of this article is to eventually have a complete list for reference. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 01:12, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
::::I watch the latest episodes. Maybe I can add to the list.[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|Maniac]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]] 01:13, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
::::But I'm kinda busy now.[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|Maniac]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]] 01:18, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::This is a good idea! I could help, but I'm busy tidying the move pages. Shame. <big>{{ani|486}}[[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']]{{ani|377}}[[User Talk:Tesh|'''TALK''']]{{ani|378}}[[User:Tesh/Other|'''FUN''']]{{ani|379}}</big> 18:08, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Wait a sec! I am sure I saw boss fantasies before Kecleon's Caper![[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 13:49, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

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== Title translation ==
I'd like to note that 超克の時空 means the Space-Time of Overcoming/Conquering and not the other way around. Even if it doesn't make much sense, this means that "To the Conquering of Space-Time" is wrong and Serebii.net's "Towards The Overcome's Time Space" is the only English translation that seems correct with everyone else seemingly believing PokéBeach.
I think we need to correct this before people memorize the incorrect translation that we apparently see almost everywhere.
As for whether "overcoming" or "conquering", to me "overcoming" sounds more accurate, but I can't say for sure as I'm not a native English speaker. It should be considered that the official movie website has an explanation for the word which says that it means "to overcome difficulties/pain": http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/chokoku/
--[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 13:19, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

:Japanese is amazing eh? Considering ''everyone'' (including Serebii) has changed it to "To the Conquering of Space-Time" (and remember, the previous translation we had was "Towards Overcoming the Space-Time Void") there's either, A: a really bad translation going around, or B: People are all getting this from one source, i.e. the movie poster. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 13:53, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

::I don't see where you read "To the Conquering of Space-Time" on Serebii.net - I clearly read "Towards The Overcome's Time Space" there. Are you trying to tell us that the poster has an English version of the title? If so, would you kindly point out where exactly I can see this on the poster?! --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 15:02, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:::What I meant was that most people over there are refering to it as such and Serebii himself has said that he is busy for the holidays, so it hasn't been changed yet. This universal translation; just accept it, its tenative anyway, we get the real title in Jan. And also, I can't read a word of Japanese, but if ''hundreds'' of fans can agree on a title, that says something. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 16:22, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

::::I would be willing to accept it as a universal translation, but your reasoning to call it that is pretty flawed. The number of people who can really tell whether the translation is accurate is by far less than "hundreds", most just take what is written and take it as confirmed as long as it isn't corrected. And if you say yourself that you can't read Japanese, why are you taking part in this discussion then? I mean, I don't mind your input, but you don't seem to belong to the people who can validate a translation either. It also isn't as tenative as you seem to think. Going by how Japanese movie titles have been in previous years, the title (and the logo) will be almost the same in its final version, only having a Pokémon name added to it - most likely it will be something like "超克の時空へアルセウス". And that's why we need to work out a more accurate translation as the order of words/kanji in the title can't just be a mistake, or at least it's not safe at all to assume so. Now if nobody else is interested in discussing this, I assume I shouldn't just go about changing the article and moving it. I'd be glad if someone with more knowledge of Japanese could contribute to this discussion. --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 11:28, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

:::::I may not speak Japanese, but the translation Babel Fish (a very popular translation site) gives is "To the Conquering of Space-Time". Of course Babel Fish doesn't always translate well. [[User:Arceus is the Best|Arceus is the Best]] 23:20, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't like babelfish's translations, and agree with nYoo's point that "To the Conquering of Space-Time" is inaccurate, but the truth is the majority always wins. Most English-speaking Pokémon fans know this movie as "To the Conquering of Space-Time", and it would just be confusing to try and find a better translation, especially with the official one so close. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 11:45, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

:: That's why redirects exist. o.o" People could still find it under "To the Conquering of Space-Time" even if the article title is different. --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 03:33, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

== Arceus ==

I'll clear one thing up before I kick off the main point of the message: I fully believe that a movie featuring Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, and Spear Pillar will feature Arceus. HOWEVER, in the blurb for PikaProj09 on the movie list article (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_movie) it is stated that the movie is "expected to feature Arceus." By whom? By whomever happened to write that sentence. I don't think that should be there until there is some actual proof beyond opinion. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]]
:Opinion... of 90% of the fandom. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:56, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Yes, but does that even matter? No doubt we will have it confirmed soon, we can readd it then. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 03:20, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
:Here is a photo that could help with proving Arceus is in the movie. The pic is from pokebeach but they only outlined part of what seems to be part of the "pointed ring" that is showed in the light.I circled the other parts. Looking at it from different angles, sometimes I think i can see its ears and a small part of its head. But that's what i think i saw so i didn't circle it. You can see it very well in the first pic. Since many people say that arceus is in the movie, I'd say this is very good proof.
[[Image:Arceus-comparison.jpg]]

Sorry it is so small as soon as I enlarge it, I will upload it.

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OK, so here is the enlarged pic, I know the arceus parts are faded, but you can still see the major parts.
[[Image:Arceus-comparison 2.jpg]]

Once I get the trailer, I will be able to upload a MUCH better and clearer picture.
[[User:Pikachugal|Pikachugal]] 02:22, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

:Calm down, friend. Arceus in this movie is too obvius. But IT IS UNCONFIRMED. We just have to wait for an official source --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]], <sc>[[User talk:Nick.|something to say?]]</sc> 02:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

I just saw the new trailer on the japanese website and i am absolutely entranced by the mysterious golden blur that appears for only like half a second in the middle of the video. [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Morgil/MysteriousGoldenBlur1.jpg] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Morgil/MysteriousGoldenBlur2.jpg] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Morgil/MysteriousGoldenBlur3.jpg] [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 20:56, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

==Naming==
You know, since we don't go moving around every episode to its English title... why don't we move all of the movies to Pikachu Project (year)? Anyone think it'd be a good idea? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:56, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

:I dunno, in my opinion it's a bad idea
:does that mean we change all the Pokémon to their national dex number too?----[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamatecharizard]] 22:46, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

== Think about it...Makes sense! ==

"''The producers went to Greece in August, 2008; this confirms the basis for the movie's setting.''"
And looking at the above posts about Arceus. Now, I know a little about Myths and things, and remember how many '''gods''' they had in Greece, back in days far gone? Anyone else think that setting a movie in a place were they were once many ''Mythological Gods'' would be a good place for the so called "''God Pokémon''"? C: Just a theory. [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]]| サソデイ 09:56, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

:Still doesn't make it official. Even if the odds point to Arceus being in the movie, we're waiting until Arceus is actually confirmed to appear in the movie to add that information. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:23, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
::Ah, I said it was 'just a theory' D: I never said it was official! [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]]| サソデイ 16:48, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:Then why does this page (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_movie) still talk about Arceus? May I please remove that? [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 03:22, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Bulbapedia is not for theories. And yes, that thing about Arceus should be removed. --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]], <sc>[[User talk:Nick.|something to say?]] </sc> 03:30, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Looks like you were right Takoto, Arceus ''is'' in the movie! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 21:57, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== New Pokemon Speculation. ==

Ok, Guys, I just want to say that, those of you still maintaining the site, I'll keep in the part on the Gen V Pokémon reveal speculation until December the 15th, only then, can we determine whether it should be kept in (As most of the info for the movie will be unveiled on that date.), if there is no mention of any Pokémon belonging to the new generation (not even showing a sihlouette, for that matter) then we must remove that tidbit. Got it? good. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 19:49, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

:didn't seribii say it was going to be tommorow? [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 20:39, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
::Strange... the article says that it's December 15th, Oh well... [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 20:58, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
:The default for any speculation is to take it out no matter how much of the fandom believes it, not to leave it an article just because we can't disprove it. You also can't disprove that Nintendo may reveal a Gen VI Pokémon on the same day, but since we have no proof we don't state it. I'm going to delete whatever it is you're talking about unless you can change my mind. [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 20:46, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
:: Can someone upload a picture of the unkown Pokémon siloette from DP104? <sc>I think thats the right Episode </sc> [[User:ShinyPikachu|ShinyPika <3 ALS]] 22:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
: Here are two pics of the electric type. One of them i added an arrow and circle to the part of the pokemon that was showing. I think these are good pics for the page. The original photo is from pokebeach.
[[Image:5th_generation_pokemon.jpg]] [[Image:5th_generation_pokemon_2.jpg]]

[[User:Pikachugal|Pikachugal]] 01:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

==is it just me?==

can anyone see the other pictures here? [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 20:39, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

:What images? If you're referring to the two links above, they were deleted for being copyright violations since they were stolen from [[Pokébeach]], one of them altered. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:28, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

== Eclipse ==

Check it out, the three legendary titans are battling during a total solar eclipse. I'll leave it to others to point out signifigance but it is noteworthy. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 23:18, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
:seeing how time and space are probably going to get ripped a new one in this movie that eclipse would be fitting [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 20:48, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
::Oh gawd if anyone makes a "Twilight" reference you will get aura sphered!!![[User:Rucario64|Rucario]][[User Talk:Rucario64|64]] 18:17, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:::wait I just looked on wikipedia and apparantly there's a solar eclipse around the time of it's release [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]]
::::Four days after. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:37, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Japan's too far north to see anything other than a partial eclipse, and the one featured in the movie is a total eclipse. Gonna have to go with a coincidence on this one. {{wp|Solar eclipse of July 22, 2009}}.--- Aura-Knight 15:46, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

== Posters ==

I have the posters needed for this article. And can someone look at the website? They have the specific reading for the kanji now.

<gallery>
Image:Movie12 Poster.jpg|''Toward Overcoming the Space-Time Void'' movie poster
Image:Promo PokemonMovie12.JPG|''Pikachu the Movie'' poster
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:Uhm, that Pichu clearly has two ears. One is just partially obscured by Pikachu's head. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 18:06, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::who said anything to the contrary? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 18:15, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::I dunno, I think I saw something on the forums where people were saying it only had one ear or something...but I could have been half-asleep and misreading everything, it's happened before, haha. Anyway, another point that nobody seems to have pointed out yet, the Pichu is on the poster for the Pikachu short, not the movie itself, so it's useless to speculate about what role it might have in the movie. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 18:23, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::You make a good point there... there is no actual confirmation that the Pichu is the Pokémon that was hidden. {{tt|Gen V. is back on!|Perhaps}} [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 18:36, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, I didn't quite say that... There's an overwhelming amount of evidence that the Pichu was indeed the hidden Pokémon, although why they'd want to make a Pichu a "surprise" is beyond me... [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 18:48, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Look at its eyes. They're the same brown as {{tt|another Pokémon on that poster|speculation, speculation...}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:58, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Wow I can't belive that they might just give Pikachu a relative!!! Awsome I can't wait for more info! [[User:Rucario64|Rucario]][[User Talk:Rucario64|64]] 18:28, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

== Nintendo Owned Everyone (Including Me) ==
[[User:LordArceus/"5th Gen"|Nintendo is amazing.]] {{unsigned|LordArceus}}
:Whoops. [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 17:40, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::I must say, they're total jerks for that. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:06, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

== Percent chance of Galactic, importantly Cyrus, appearing? ==

100%? Less? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:31, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:I don't know if they are going to appear in the movie since something like this hasn't happened since the first movie. I could be wrong anyway. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 21:35, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::Considering the fact that Galactic has already appeared in the series and the writers seem to be giving them more screen time/development than most previous teams (relative to their importance in the game, I mean), I feel it's at least worth a second thought that Cyrus will probably appear later in the series instead of in this movie; either that, or the writers are finally going to abandon their unspoken policy of keeping movie canon (mostly) separate from series canon. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 21:44, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::They've got the Spear Key, Adamant and Lustrous Orbs. Movie 12 obviously takes place in an area inspired by Greece (Spear Pillar) and features Arceus. They know we were disappointed in the hour special they laid out for Groudon and Kyogre, so they want to remedy it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:08, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::::But usually stories like these culminate in the series not in a movie. Bar the first one, Movies and series are most of the time entirely disjoined. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 22:13, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::But like I said, the writers have been pretty ambitious this series--maybe they've decided to go ahead and tie a theatrical release directly to the show. I just think we need to weigh both possibilities equally and not assume that Cyrus will be in it just because the dragon trio will be (and possibly Arceus) until we get more information. Although, they could settle for a happy medium of sorts, something like having Cyrus appear in the movie but never in the series, and just have the Galactic admins make allusions to him in the series. I think it's pretty up-in-the-air right now; considering the fact that the previous two movies have involved members of the dragon trio without involving Cyrus, it's not like it would be impossible for them to pull off a movie featuring them and Arceus and not include Cyrus. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 22:27, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Did they appear in the first two? Survey says: Nope! The battle has nothing to do with Cyrus and his flunkies anyway [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 22:32, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::You know that Cyrus's debut wasn't till AFTER the movie premiered, right?- ''unsigned comment from [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:::::That's true...didn't consider that. But I still think it's possible for them to pull off a plot about the dragon trio and Arceus without him. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 22:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Meh, never stopped them before [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 22:47, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::That's highly likely to include Team Galactic and Cyrus, not to mention the fact that it can also boost tickets sales! -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 09:08, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::The only thing I can see that may boost ticket sales is the inevitable Arceus giveaway. Besides, Pokémon was unphased by going up against Studio Ghibli this year so it doesn't really need help on the popularity front.
:::::::::Team Magma were in six and while I can see them having that role, a plotline started in the series should conclude in the series. We'll probably be around the start of the league tournament by July anyway. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 09:42, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Darkrai popped back up in the show so why not Arceus. Then Cyrus could try to control it.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:24, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

== Can we please ==

Can we please put Piplup on the cast sheet? You know it's going to be there. And please don't give me the "unconfirmed" lecture. It was in the first two movies, is featured on the poster for this and the previous Pikachu movie. I get why you might not want it for the regular episodes but, come on now... There is really no good reason it wouldn't appear. Do you really think after all the writers have done with Piplup so far that there really going to make it skip a movie appearance? Or are you going to get all mad at me if I add it on the cast sheet? Face it, Piplup IS the new Togepi. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 09:59, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind. Found out officially that it's in the movie. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 10:06, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:It's better than Togepi, believe me. At least it does something. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:13, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

maybe theres something hint on there maybe but its looks like similat to zelda twiligth princess.......--[[User:Bakunawa|Bakunawa]] 10:16, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

You know, even IF I did want it to appear in the episodes, we still should wait for more information in regards to whether Piplup is actually appearing or not. For all we know, the poster could have just misled us. It's not like they haven't done that before [cough, cough, cough, cough, [[Palkia (anime)|Palkia]], [[Giratina and the Sky Warrior|Sky Warrior]] poster cough, cough, cough, cough] [cough, cough, cough, cough, cough, cough, [[Brock's Marshtomp|Mudkip]] and [[Ash's Sceptile|Treecko]] in [[Jirachi: Wish Maker|Jirachi poster]] cough, cough, cough, cough, cough, cough]. I won't argue that it should be erased, since, as you said, it's officially confirmed. However, for episodes, we DEFINITELY need to wait until the the previews at least before we add in Piplup. I mean, should we add in Wobbuffet in every single pokemon episode that's upcoming just because it appears in a lot of the episodes? Because that would be the same thing. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 20:50, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:I was referring to the trailer, not the poster. Piplup was in the trailer. And Wobbuffet hasn't been in the anime for nearly 50 episodes straight without an absence. Piplup has. It's not just the number of episodes its appeared in. It's the consistency. Wobbuffet is in a lot of episodes but will be absent once every 10 or 15 episodes. Each week that passes, Piplup gets confirmed for yet another episode and some still wanna believe that its all of a sudden not going to appear next week. Besides, Wobbuffet belongs to an antagonist who are not the absolute central point of the anime like the heroes are. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:22, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::Trailer is misleading too! Not every scene in the trailer are included in the movie, for instance, the Pidgeot in movie 10 trailer. I agree with Weedle.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 05:47, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::Meowth belonged to the Antagonists, as well, and yet that never stopped people from adding in his name before. I'm not saying that Piplup shouldn't be in any episodes, I'm actually more neutral to the debate. All I'm saying that it still needs more information. And I still don't see too much of a difference between Piplup appearing and Wobbuffet appearing. I mean, at least with Pikachu, Meowth, and up until "A Togepi Mirage", Togepi, they weren't in pokeballs, so their appearances were definitely a given. Piplup, no matter how many appearances it's made in a way similar to Pikachu and Meowth, is still a pokeball pokemon that makes multiple appearances in episodes, not unlike Wobbuffet, in one sense. Unlike Piplup, Wobbuffet still doesn't get inserted into the cast pokemon of the episode [or rather, people aren't trying to insert it in.]. Basically, what I'm saying is that we shouldn't be too hasty to add in Piplup before we have undeniable proof that it's in. I mean, I don't add in Wobbuffet to the pokemon appearing in every upcoming episode, and you don't either, so what makes Piplup any different? [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 22:22, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

:::Okay... appearently you haven't read anything I said to why Piplup should be treated different than Wobbuffet. <big><big>NEARLY 50 EPISODES STRAIGHT WITHOUT AN ABSCENCE.</big></big> That's why Piplup should be added in automatically. It be different if Piplup was absent every few episodes during this span but it wasn't. Wobbuffet has never appeared for 50 episodes without an absence. As for Meowth, he's an antagonist in himself. He really doesn't belong to anyone like Wobbuffet does. And he's actually appeared in every episode. Not like Wobbuffet. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:53, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

== Merchandise ==

Any way we can work this into the article, other than saying "Something something, featuring Monferno, Bronzong, Staraptor, and Heatran, prompting fan speculation that [[Ash]]'s {{AP|Chimchar}} and {{AP|Staravia}} will evolve and Brock/Dawn will capture a Bronzong something something Heatran's role." --- Aura-Knight 22:24, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

:......I would at least suspect the character of the movie to have a Bronzong.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 07:59, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

== Pichu ==

On the page, it says "a Pichu with spiked ears" whereas everywhere else, it says "notched ear" I know it's a bit nit-picky but this does seem like the more official term.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 23:54, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
:More official? Both terms are '''[[fanon]]'''! -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 05:40, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:The former or the latter of which you said? --[[User:Bulbapedian|Bulbapedian]] - [[User talk:Bulbapedian|Talk]] 23:57, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
::Did. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 00:04, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

== Heartran ==

serebii.net said Heatran involve this thing 12 movie...........--[[User:Bakunawa|Bakunawa]] 06:53, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:......Here you're in the best Pokémon Encyclopedia '''ever'''! Serebii is a site full of speculation! -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 07:57, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:I'm not to sure but I guess that Serebii's information doesn't qualify as sure evidence here.--'''[[User:Diby|Di]][[User talk:Diby|b]][[Special:Contributions/Diby|y]]''' 06:55, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

I have searched for the corocoro issue of jan 19 but the content of that issue is about megaman and the revivl of one of its series, so was the info date wrong?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 15:20, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== World Hobbo Fair ==
shouldn't the legendary pokemon have been revealed on the 19th? if it was, why doesn't Bulbanews have the info.? [[User:Vik0z0z|Vik0z0z]] 21:22, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
:There wasn't anything revealed at the fair. It would have been up if it was. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 21:27, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I think I have an explanation for that, the world hobby fair is moving around in different cities like tokyo and nagua and others, so the news will be released at the world hobby fair but with an unknown date and city.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:34, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

== Official Arceus ==

Guys, there's a link on the page to {{p|Arceus}}. Since there's already been THAT hint with the magazine, shouldn't the link be put there(and the page to be started) when we get something official? Plus, we just might have to watch out for any possible "funny business" around the {{p|Arceus}} when there's still NOTHING official...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 01:50, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:So you're saying the link shouldn't be should unless we make a page about {{p|Arceus}}, But we can't because we have nothing more than a mere magazine hint? I'm just confused.....--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]-[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 01:53, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm saying that we shouldn't have the link there until anything official. When something official pops up, sure we party, Arceus is revealed, an admin puts the link and someone should starts a decent article if there's at 100-something words of info. To be even MORE CLEAR, someone removes the link, something official pops up, the link is put there and the article on it is started if enough info to make it even a decent stub is put there.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 01:58, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:Wikis put links to pages that haven't yet been created so someone can know to create them. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:57, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I meant that the link to the uncreated Arceus (anime) article should be removed from the page, until official news, even though its very likely to happen. The link should be put on the page and the Arceus (anime) page should be started when we get official news. Official news!--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 13:50, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
:The link doesn't matter. If you're looking for something official that confirms that Arceus will appear in the movie, it's the calendar. Let's just wait until someone who knows more about the upcoming star of the movie starts the page. --×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 13:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Then again... the calendar IS official. It could a hidden confirmation cause Nintendo wants to reveal the {{tt|Alpha Pokémon|Arceus is the Alpha Pokémon, for people who apparently forgot.....}} in a special way. That's it! We keep it on there! More info is bound to come any time now, any minute now... you get it, I guess it really should be kept on the page.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 14:07, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

OMG! Arceus has been revealed and it has been revealed to be the star of the 12th movie! [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Official_Arceus_image_surfaces '''''HERE!'''''] We be partying! Party... party... okay, I'm done... anyway, we can make the {{p|Arceus}} article either now, or later, I'm thinking "freely" right now! I guess we'll just put the future event template if we start it now...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 05:37, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:We don't have any information on the one appearing in the movie yet, but that likely comes this week or next week. All that's know is that it IS in the movie. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

== New name? ==
In [http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090211_film12_02.jpg this scan], if I am not worng, the new title of the movie is "Arceus: To the Conquering of Space-Time" --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]], <sc>[[User talk:Nick.|something to say?]]</sc> 15:26, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:You are right, but Bulbapedia wants to be sure and wait for better scans.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 17:45, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::I don't think it's really needed... even if the scan's quality is poor, we can clearly see that ''Arceus'' was added to the movie's title... - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] 17:50, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I think it's good enough to move the page. Even Serebii is reporting the new title. [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 17:55, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::::This is what happens when admins are protecting almost every page for every smallest reason. The Bulbapedia CAN'T BE UP TO DATE because of this. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 18:09, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well a reason a lot of the pages are protected is so people don't just start editing things in that might turn out to not be true. It sucks to have to lock them, yes, but it's still best to wait until some information is pretty obvious before editing it in. [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 18:25, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::The need to have the page up-to-date > The risk of having a n00b posting fake informations. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 18:46, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::hold on, I taught the name of it had - instead of : [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 20:30, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::In Japanese characters, there's only a hollow between "Arceus" and the old title. In all the other titles, we used ":" in similar cases. - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] 20:32, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

== Johto Starters ==

After the recent revealing of the Coro Coro scans, I believe Cyndaquil, Torchic, and Totodile should be added to the "Featured Pokémon" section.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|StarLeged}} ([[User talk:StarLeged|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/StarLeged|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

How do we know Johto starters are in this???

GSDS hints anyone??? [[User:Super Max|'''Super''']][[Special:Contributions/Super Max|'''-''']][[User talk:Super Max|'''Max''']] 21:44, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:It's Chikorita and its on the scsn on Serebii.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 21:47, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

OH, that's so unfair, I thought they were new ones, linked to a hint to GSDS, but sadly the ones in that clip are just Ash's that he caught in the Johto region. He probably had them transfered from Proffesor Oak. (Please let him get rid of Gliscor) [[User:Super Max|'''Super''']][[Special:Contributions/Super Max|'''-''']][[User talk:Super Max|'''Max''']] 21:51, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

:Just FYI, they're not Ash's pokémon (Ash's Chikorita evolved, remember?) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 21:53, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Mew came along and devolved it???
I hate this, I really want GSDS, but something tells me, they are covering so much of Johto so they don't have to do a remake.
[[User:Super Max|'''Super''']][[Special:Contributions/Super Max|'''-''']][[User talk:Super Max|'''Max''']] 21:55, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Exactly--[[User:Sludge|Sludge]] 21:54, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

::(ECx2)Everything is a GSDS hint, isn't it.... What happened to waiting until the movie was released? Pikachu and Piplup are on the poster too, but they aren't mentioned. Just. Wait. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 21:57, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

OMG, your saying Piplup is in the 12th movie as well? Wait a minute, Piplup is a water type pokemon, Johto has water type pokemon. OMG, another hint. LOL [[User:Super Max|'''Super''']][[Special:Contributions/Super Max|'''-''']][[User talk:Super Max|'''Max''']] 21:59, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

:Correct me if I'm mistaken, but didn't they end up covering a lot of the Gen III pokemon/Gen IV pokemon near the end of Johto and the Kanto Battle Frontier, respectively, not to mention the fact that they covered a lot on Kanto in AG (even going as far as to hold the BF in Kanto instead of holding it on that Island near Hoenn.) and they still advertised the fact that the FR/LG remakes were coming out?

Another thing, No, we aren't going that far. Besides, using Piplup is not the same thing as having... ohh, not just one Gen II pokemon have a major role in a movie, but apparantly having '''four''' Gen II pokemon have major roles in the movie.[[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 22:01, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

4neeums (Forums).--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 22:02, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

I have said since the first day i found out about Battle Frontier in Platinum, I said THE ANIME WILL HOST THE BF IN JOHTO. And it looks like that is a fact (him and Dawn willl go there, Dawn because of what May told her Contests, Ash for the BF), hopefully that means the games will also do a johto. I just hope there is no Kanto in GSDS, otherwise Kanto would have been in every generation [[User:Super Max|'''Super''']][[Special:Contributions/Super Max|'''-''']][[User talk:Super Max|'''Max''']] 22:04, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:*points to {{u|CoolPikachu!}}'s comment above*--[[Flash Fire (ability)|freezing]][[Heat Wave (move)|COLD]] ([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 22:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

what about Heatran, who was also in the poster? --[[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 23:12, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

== i have a point ==

First of all, I would like to point out to the comment above mentioning that Heatrans also on the poster. Also, shouldn't the title be renamed to "The Conquering of Space and Time"? There's no "To" anywhere in the text. And also, yes, Space and Time is written as Space-Time...but it should be translated to Space '''AND''' Time. It's like how you don't see '''THE''' in the title, but it still appears in the translation.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 01:38, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:Hello? Is anyone listening to me?--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 04:25, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::An admin must add Heatran in the list. Regarding the title, I dunno how to translate Japanese. D: ×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 04:57, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Good point, Tavi. Where did the "To" exactly come from? As proven by the meme, "All Your Base are Belong To Us", you can't always directly translate something. Seriously... where DID the "To" come from? Can anyone find out?--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 06:02, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Psh, Heatran. Who cares about that Vader knockoff. JOHTO STAAARTERRRRRS! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:12, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

TTE, I also love Johto and I support GSDS(and of course I see the Johto starters as a hint), and heck, I even downloaded and still playing the hack, ShinyGold... but that was completely off topic. Now can anyone find out what with the "To". I knew the title sounded weird but I didn't think much of it until now.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 06:31, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
:The error in the AYB is not in the "To", thus, your example is irrelevant, witness. '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 11:39, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

== Wait. ==

...is spacetime doing the conquering?! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:46, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
:It sounds a little ridiculous, but I don't know... the preview didn't feature that, just the dragon trion about to see Arceus come in to stop their fighting or something in that matter...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 09:53, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
:A "spacetime of conquering" isn't technically different from a "conquering spacetime", if you keep in mind that "conquering" is an adjective...--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:02, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
I just want to say that I think the current translation of the title on BP doesn't make much sense. --[[User:Argy|Argy]] 08:41, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:Whatever happened to ''Arceus: The Conquering of Space-Time''? --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 11:04, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::I think it was changed to a more literal translation. I have to agree with Argy that the current title is pretty bizarre. It means almost the exact same thing as the previous title, as long as ''Conquering'' is understood to be a {{tt|possesive adjective|Although technically, in the original title, Conquering is a verb, and the last two words can be dropped grammatically, as they are a preposition}} Grammar and English sentence structure is not my strong suit though, so i may be wrong. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 15:37, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:::アルセウス超克の時空へ Arceus: The Conquest of Spacetime or Spacetime's Conquest. I dunno much how Japanese works, but really, literal translations never get you anywhere. Sometimes a different word's used. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:03, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Er, you're translation's sort of...I guess I would call it backwards. ''Chōkoku'' is "conquest" and ''Jikū'' is "spacetime". The の ''no'' comes after the ''Chōkoku'', so that's the word that's possessive. Technically, the title is "conquest's spacetime" or "spacetime of conquest". However, the へ ''e'' is a directional particle, so it has to be something like "to a spacetime of conquest."--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:14, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Main screen turn on? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:29, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
I think the current title is the least ridiculous-sounding one which still means the same as the original Japanese. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 18:49, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

== Image ==

Here's an image of Heatran and the Johot starters. Add it if you want. [[Image:Movie 12 heatran johto.png|thumb]] *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 09:40, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Johto_in_Movie_12.png That's a duplicate file]! ×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 09:45, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

CAN we plaese add the picture {{unsigned|Vik0z0z}}

== English voice actors ==

Can we add them since we know who they are already ? [[User:Livinlarge18|Livinlarge18]] 17:06, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:HOW can we know the English voice actors if the VA's haven't been released for Japan yet?--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' at 17:27, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::{{tt|WELL|pulling your chain...}}, assuming everyone's not fired, we know who is doing the voices of the major characters right now. Stands to reason that they should still be around in a year or so when the dubbed version is released. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 22:02, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:::If we had assumed that for Movie 9 when it was announced, we'd be wrong. No. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:01, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

== Error ==

On the page it says [[Giratina (anime)|{{color|FF0000|gi}}{{color|DDDD00|R}}{{color|FF0000|atina}}]]. It should say [[Giratina (anime)|{{color|DDDD00|gi}}{{color|FF0000|R}}{{color|DDDD00|atina}}]]. Glitchym1[[User:Glitchym1|Mglitch]] 16:45, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:Same mistake with Shaymin.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:35, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

::You're both wrong - the large red letters spell "ARCEUS", and the two leftovers (Giratina and Palkia) have large yellow letters instead. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 19:38, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

== Final poster ==

See Bulbanews.--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' at 00:04, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

== Trailer ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwUpivwwHvM

Should the trailer be added somewhere? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 01:33, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

::I dunno...can you really trust trailers? Points to the 8th movie trailer
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Talk:M12/Archive 1

2009-03-06T03:51:53Z

Riggins: /* Trailer */

Talk:Jessie's Dustox

2009-03-06T03:35:24Z

Riggins: /* Gender */

''In the Japanese version, she called it Dokucale-chan on more than one occasion''
:And Dokucale-chan means...
::Well, I could write you a lengthy treatise on the connotations of using ''-chan'' (like [[wp:Japanese titles|this one]]), or I could just say it's just a piece of trivia. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 00:33, 19 November 2005 (CST)

::It means that Jessie think that it is a female.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 02:51, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

I think the guy wanted to know what "Dokucale" means, but it's simply Duxtox's Japanese name

== Dustox's voice ==

I thought that [[Kayzie Rogers]] took over the role of Dustox from Birnbaum

== Stun Spore?? ==

Isn't it impossible for Dustox to use {{m|Stun Spore}}?
God, [[anime physics]] really piss me off... -__-;; → [[User:Thomas1652]]

== Leaving in DP 73? ==

With the pattern of Likatung, Victreebel, Arbok, Weezing, Chimecho, and Cacnea are Duxtox's days numbered? Should we be worried about Seviper?
:That's for the forums, not here. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 15:20, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
::Besides, we don't know for sure if Dustox is actually going to leave. The title may suggest it, but then again [[EP091]]'s titles (both original and dub) suggested [[Misty's Psyduck]] was going to evolve yet no evolution took place. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:28, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
:::But think about it. The jap title also has [[Golduck]] in it. This was left to believe [[Misty's Psyduck|Psyduck]] was going to evolve. This is different, as [[Jessie's Dustox|Dustox]] is at it's final evolution. It's probably going to go with the Shiny Dustox and breed/migrate, like [[Ash's Butterfree]]. -[[User:Mr.lol|Dean]]
::::And until this episode airs: it won't be mentioned. Period. I'm tired of all the speculation that gets put into these articles...-[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 21:31, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

==Gender==
What is the proof that Dustox is female.{{unsigned|Happizelpom}}
:Huh? That? There is no proof{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 02:23, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed how this is suddenly referring to Dustox as female. I think it should be removed, until at least the episode airs. Maybe this should be protected altogether?
:Someone remove it, and yes, it should be protected. It's not like something major will happen to Dustox by then{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 02:44, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Jessie calls it Dokucale-chan in the Japanese version.Can it be a proof?-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 05:02, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

:For all we know, Jessie could be treating anything she finds cute the same way regardless of gender. Unless we can get a positive gender ID on the [[alternate coloration]] Dustox, assume nothing. [[Dawn]] could do the same, and [[Dawn's Pachirisu]] is a good example of it--I believe it is most likely male due to the head stripe, yet some others believe it to be female due to attire Dawn had it wear. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 17:51, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

== Wurmple to Cascoon ==

I'll upload the pictures cause I can get them using print screen

OK Thank you--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 13:33, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

== Gender ==

I'm sure Dustox is a female since it has Jessie's Ribbons on its attenae also [[Austin]]'s Dustox sounds like a male in both languages ironically in English he is voiced by [[Billy Beach]] [[User:Livinlarge18|Livinlarge18]] 21:21, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
:Still, that isn't solid proof. Unless Jessie said "she" or "her", than we can't do anything. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:29, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
::You msut have Solid, One hundred percent, Even have a video on youtube proff, or else no dice[[User:Darth Cookie
Monster|DCM]]

:::I don't get why we put so much important on the stating of gender in anime yet ignore this rule for other Pokemon? You assume Brock Gureggru is male based on a marriage fantasy and yet ignore the fact that Dokucale has a VERY feminine voice and is wearing bows. IF male why would Dokucale have a very feminine tone to her voice? Why would a male act like a female and the other not act feminie at all? We will never hear it called a female because it will never return.

(Don't go in to the gay stuff because this is pokemon we are talking about and if there was a gay relatoinship it makes more sense for it to be human.)
--[[User:Riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]] 03:35, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

==Pin Missile==
Shouldn't there be a part in the Anime Move Error's section for Jessie's Dustox using Pin Missile? [[User:Happizelpom|Happi]][[User talk:Happizelpom|zel]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|pom]] 03:24, 7 September 2008 (UTC)Happizelpom
:When did it use Pin Missile? If you did add it, you'd have to know the episode. Are you sure it wasn't Poison Sting?--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 03:27, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, actually. It was The Bicker The Better! Jessie told it to use Pin Missile and it shot out white colored needles. Usually when using Poison Sting they are purple. (USUALLY) Im not saying all the time cuz i dont have evidence to prove that. [[User:Happizelpom|Happi]][[User talk:Happizelpom|zel]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|pom]] 03:33, 7 September 2008 (UTC)Happizelpom

==Proof==
Here is proof it used Pin Missile:
Go here: http://megavideo.com/?v=5CASDT1B
At AROUND 16:00 you hear her say it and you see the white needles, also its a little after 16:00 so like around yea
[[User:Happizelpom|Happi]][[User talk:Happizelpom|zel]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|pom]] 18:31, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Celebi (Pokémon)

2009-03-04T04:38:55Z

Riggins: /* How is this relevant? */

==Celi Bee==
When did this disco artist appear and how likely is it that Game Freak knew of them? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 17:19, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
:Yea, let's get rid of that. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 11:43, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

== Quick Question, TCG ==

I have a Celebi card and I want to add the info in it's own article. I'm slightly new here so I don't know much about creating TCG articles. What's confusing me though is the broken link on this page. When I go about creating the page should I make a sort of disambiguation page in case that there is more than 1 type of Celebi card? Or should I just make the page go right to a single card? I may not have phrased that right but hopefully somebody understands what I'm tying to ask. Help please. [[User:Zabbethx|Zabbethx]] 13:28, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

:The chances are your Celebi card already has its own article here, as we have articles on every English language Pokémon card in existence. A list of all Celebi cards can be found {{TCG|Celebi|here}}, and your card is very likely to be there. [[User:Cipher|Cipher]] 19:08, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

== Artwork ==

Can we use side-game artworks here, like Ranger? *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 07:41, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
:Why are we using this and not it's Official Art? -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:40, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::Something about most recent artwork being preferred.--The [[Delibird (Pokémon)|Kk]][[Stantler (Pokémon)|ll]][[Santa Claus|nn]][[User:Kkllnn|ator]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| サンタクロース]] 20:41, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::That ''is'' official art. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:44, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Official as in this: [[image:251Celebi.png]] Not side art. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:47, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::From what I've heard, it is ''official'' art done by an ''official'' artist just for a side game.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 21:41, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::All artwork released by Nintendo is, by definition, official. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:42, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::While this is true, I am talking about using art from the main series, not a side-game. It's inconsistent. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 14:58, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:In what way is the artwork inconsistent? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 15:01, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::You're honestly asking? Some Pokémon use their art from the main series while others use their art from a side game? It very inconsistent. That's why we have the "Artwork on Bulbagarden Archives" link in the infobox. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 15:48, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::It almost looks less consistent to have this old artwork where all the newer artwork is on other pages. I think the page on [[GSDS]] mentions it.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 15:52, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::::It's all Sugimori art. It's the same style. The Ranger art is in a different style and when compared to other art, the differences are quite existent. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 15:56, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

:::::And the Ranger artwork is more recent than the G/S/C artwork. [[Santa Claus|♥]][[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[wp:Christmas|Merry Christmas!]]) 16:01 12/21/2008

::::::That doesn't matter. There is no rule anywhere saying that we have to use the most recent artwork. The official artwork beats any other artwork out there. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 16:03, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::What about using Art from the anime? I mean in the cases of Pokémon from Johto. They are drawn by Ken Sugimori too. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 16:35, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

== Avalibility ==

I keep hearing that you can get every Pokémon on to Diamond/Pearl except Celebi, but the article says that PKMN Colosseum's Japanese bonus disk allows you to get it, why do I keep seeing that? [[User:GuyNamedSean|GuyNamedSean]] 10:13, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:Because it's true. Japanese fans were able to transfer Celebi onto their GenIII games, and then to DP through Pal Park. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 10:31, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Shining Celebi? ==

Can you even have a Shining Celebi? Cause I don't think you can catch it in Gen 3 or 4 games (eliminating the 1/8,192 chance or whatever..). And all event Celebi have been non-shiny. Right? So how did my friend get a shiny Celebi? Was there a shiny event Celebi? [[User:Sivart345|Sivart345]] 17:06, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:It's a hack. While it is possible to get a shiny one from the Japanese bonus disc, it is so unlikely that your friend got the disc, the memory card and the shiny that you can count on the fact that it is a hack.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 17:11, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
: Thanks but one more question; which event Celebi was it (just wondering), I mean the year? [[User:Sivart345|Sivart345]] 20:41, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I went at looked at the event Celebi and found 4, [[List_of_Nintendo_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_in_2003#Ageto_Celebi|Ageto Celebi (Bonus Disc)]]/[[Pok%C3%A9mon_Colosseum#Ageto_Celebi|Ageto Celebi (Colosseum link, bonus disc)]], [[List_of_Nintendo_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_in_2006#Pok.C3.A9Park_Celebi|PokéPark Celebi]], [[List_of_Nintendo_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_in_2006#Mitsurin_Celebi|Mitsurin Celebi]], and [[List_of_10th_Anniversary_event_Pok%C3%A9mon#Celebi_and_Charizard|10 ANNIV Celebi]]. All are non-shining. So doesn't that make Celebi the only Pokémon that ''cannot'' be a '''legit''' shiny? Cause I thought that event Pokémon only come non-shiny unless specified and that the 1/8192 chance refers to Pokémon in the wild?Sivart345 ([[User:Sivart345|user]] · [[User talk:Sivart345|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|contrib]]) 23:49, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I also found that no Jirachi have ever been shiny. So 2 Pokémon cannot be shiny; Celebi (see links) and Jirachi (check all the event Jirachi)Sivart345 ([[User:Sivart345|user]] · [[User talk:Sivart345|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|contrib]]) 16:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

== How is this relevant? ==

"Celebi is the mascot of Serebii.net."

Is stating mascots for website necessary?

Forgot to sign [[user:riggins]]

:Trivia is never necessary. :p But it's there just the same. BTW, when signing, write this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:25, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

::True, True but it just stick out at the top being one line. It seems even less useful then most because it's so painfully ovisous. [[User:riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]]
:::Well we have this on {{p|Bulbasaur}}:
"Bulbasaur is the mascot of Bulbasaur's Mysterious Garden."
I know it's us but still.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 22:11, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

:::Ya I just noticed and I have to agree. I still stand by my feelings that it's really not relevant BUT since it protain to us I'm afraid to challenge it. I have to say if the admins say it stays then does that mean we have to name the mascot of every fan site? It seems pretty silly seeing as there must be thousands of fan site and it does not make sense at all. Just because we and serebii are at the top doesn't mean we should get special treatment.--[[User:Riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]] 02:07, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
::::We have certain criteria for what fansites get real mention such as their own page (see here: [[Bulbapedia:Project Fandom]]), theoretically, similar criteria could be used for their mascots. For example, any fansite with an article could have their mascot mentionned.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:24, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

:::::Well ok but my point is why even point it out in the first place? If your a avid pokemon fan then your already familiar with most of the top pokemon sites. Also it is still very ovisous in it's like saying did you know that pikachu is the mascot to pokemon. If we give fansite trivia then how is it different from adding any thing that's not directly related the pokemon?--[[User:Riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]] 02:42, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::Third line of {{p|Pikachu}}:
"Pikachu is popularly known as the mascot of the Pokémon franchise."--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:54, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

:::::
I'm refering to triva not the whole page

Yes but what I mean is avid pokemon fan go to the top fan sites regularly and will already know about there mascot and any one who would not know would most likely not be a person who cares or is a serous fan. If you don't know about serebii then your not a serous fan because the site is made for up to date news and in depth info about pokemon for people who care about that kind of stuff.

Also if they have there own article then why not have it in it's respective article as it's own trivia instead of in a pokemon article were it's irrelevant to the pokemon's info?--[[User:Riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]] 03:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Celebi (Pokémon)

2009-03-04T04:38:04Z

Riggins: /* How is this relevant? */

==Celi Bee==
When did this disco artist appear and how likely is it that Game Freak knew of them? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 17:19, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
:Yea, let's get rid of that. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 11:43, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

== Quick Question, TCG ==

I have a Celebi card and I want to add the info in it's own article. I'm slightly new here so I don't know much about creating TCG articles. What's confusing me though is the broken link on this page. When I go about creating the page should I make a sort of disambiguation page in case that there is more than 1 type of Celebi card? Or should I just make the page go right to a single card? I may not have phrased that right but hopefully somebody understands what I'm tying to ask. Help please. [[User:Zabbethx|Zabbethx]] 13:28, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

:The chances are your Celebi card already has its own article here, as we have articles on every English language Pokémon card in existence. A list of all Celebi cards can be found {{TCG|Celebi|here}}, and your card is very likely to be there. [[User:Cipher|Cipher]] 19:08, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

== Artwork ==

Can we use side-game artworks here, like Ranger? *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 07:41, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
:Why are we using this and not it's Official Art? -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:40, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::Something about most recent artwork being preferred.--The [[Delibird (Pokémon)|Kk]][[Stantler (Pokémon)|ll]][[Santa Claus|nn]][[User:Kkllnn|ator]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| サンタクロース]] 20:41, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::That ''is'' official art. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:44, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Official as in this: [[image:251Celebi.png]] Not side art. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:47, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::From what I've heard, it is ''official'' art done by an ''official'' artist just for a side game.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 21:41, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::All artwork released by Nintendo is, by definition, official. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:42, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::While this is true, I am talking about using art from the main series, not a side-game. It's inconsistent. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 14:58, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:In what way is the artwork inconsistent? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 15:01, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::You're honestly asking? Some Pokémon use their art from the main series while others use their art from a side game? It very inconsistent. That's why we have the "Artwork on Bulbagarden Archives" link in the infobox. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 15:48, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::It almost looks less consistent to have this old artwork where all the newer artwork is on other pages. I think the page on [[GSDS]] mentions it.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 15:52, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::::It's all Sugimori art. It's the same style. The Ranger art is in a different style and when compared to other art, the differences are quite existent. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 15:56, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

:::::And the Ranger artwork is more recent than the G/S/C artwork. [[Santa Claus|♥]][[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[wp:Christmas|Merry Christmas!]]) 16:01 12/21/2008

::::::That doesn't matter. There is no rule anywhere saying that we have to use the most recent artwork. The official artwork beats any other artwork out there. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 16:03, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::What about using Art from the anime? I mean in the cases of Pokémon from Johto. They are drawn by Ken Sugimori too. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 16:35, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

== Avalibility ==

I keep hearing that you can get every Pokémon on to Diamond/Pearl except Celebi, but the article says that PKMN Colosseum's Japanese bonus disk allows you to get it, why do I keep seeing that? [[User:GuyNamedSean|GuyNamedSean]] 10:13, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:Because it's true. Japanese fans were able to transfer Celebi onto their GenIII games, and then to DP through Pal Park. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 10:31, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Shining Celebi? ==

Can you even have a Shining Celebi? Cause I don't think you can catch it in Gen 3 or 4 games (eliminating the 1/8,192 chance or whatever..). And all event Celebi have been non-shiny. Right? So how did my friend get a shiny Celebi? Was there a shiny event Celebi? [[User:Sivart345|Sivart345]] 17:06, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:It's a hack. While it is possible to get a shiny one from the Japanese bonus disc, it is so unlikely that your friend got the disc, the memory card and the shiny that you can count on the fact that it is a hack.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 17:11, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
: Thanks but one more question; which event Celebi was it (just wondering), I mean the year? [[User:Sivart345|Sivart345]] 20:41, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I went at looked at the event Celebi and found 4, [[List_of_Nintendo_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_in_2003#Ageto_Celebi|Ageto Celebi (Bonus Disc)]]/[[Pok%C3%A9mon_Colosseum#Ageto_Celebi|Ageto Celebi (Colosseum link, bonus disc)]], [[List_of_Nintendo_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_in_2006#Pok.C3.A9Park_Celebi|PokéPark Celebi]], [[List_of_Nintendo_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_in_2006#Mitsurin_Celebi|Mitsurin Celebi]], and [[List_of_10th_Anniversary_event_Pok%C3%A9mon#Celebi_and_Charizard|10 ANNIV Celebi]]. All are non-shining. So doesn't that make Celebi the only Pokémon that ''cannot'' be a '''legit''' shiny? Cause I thought that event Pokémon only come non-shiny unless specified and that the 1/8192 chance refers to Pokémon in the wild?Sivart345 ([[User:Sivart345|user]] · [[User talk:Sivart345|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|contrib]]) 23:49, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I also found that no Jirachi have ever been shiny. So 2 Pokémon cannot be shiny; Celebi (see links) and Jirachi (check all the event Jirachi)Sivart345 ([[User:Sivart345|user]] · [[User talk:Sivart345|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|contrib]]) 16:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

== How is this relevant? ==

"Celebi is the mascot of Serebii.net."

Is stating mascots for website necessary?

Forgot to sign [[user:riggins]]

:Trivia is never necessary. :p But it's there just the same. BTW, when signing, write this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:25, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

::True, True but it just stick out at the top being one line. It seems even less useful then most because it's so painfully ovisous. [[User:riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]]
:::Well we have this on {{p|Bulbasaur}}:
"Bulbasaur is the mascot of Bulbasaur's Mysterious Garden."
I know it's us but still.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 22:11, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

:::Ya I just noticed and I have to agree. I still stand by my feelings that it's really not relevant BUT since it protain to us I'm afraid to challenge it. I have to say if the admins say it stays then does that mean we have to name the mascot of every fan site? It seems pretty silly seeing as there must be thousands of fan site and it does not make sense at all. Just because we and serebii are at the top doesn't mean we should get special treatment.--[[User:Riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]] 02:07, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
::::We have certain criteria for what fansites get real mention such as their own page (see here: [[Bulbapedia:Project Fandom]]), theoretically, similar criteria could be used for their mascots. For example, any fansite with an article could have their mascot mentionned.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:24, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

:::::Well ok but my point is why even point it out in the first place? If your a avid pokemon fan then your already familiar with most of the top pokemon sites. Also it is still very ovisous in it's like saying did you know that pikachu is the mascot to pokemon. If we give fansite trivia then how is it different from adding any thing that's not directly related the pokemon?--[[User:Riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]] 02:42, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::Third line of {{p|Pikachu}}: (Riggin's note I'm refering to triva not the whole page)
"Pikachu is popularly known as the mascot of the Pokémon franchise."--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:54, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

:::::Yes but what I mean is avid pokemon fan go to the top fan sites regularly and will already know about there mascot and any one who would not know would most likely not be a person who cares or is a serous fan. If you don't know about serebii then your not a serous fan because the site is made for up to date news and in depth info about pokemon for people who care about that kind of stuff.

Also if they have there own article then why not have it in it's respective article as it's own trivia instead of in a pokemon article were it's irrelevant to the pokemon's info?--[[User:Riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]] 03:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Celebi (Pokémon)

2009-03-04T03:23:15Z

Riggins: /* How is this relevant? */

==Celi Bee==
When did this disco artist appear and how likely is it that Game Freak knew of them? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 17:19, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
:Yea, let's get rid of that. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 11:43, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

== Quick Question, TCG ==

I have a Celebi card and I want to add the info in it's own article. I'm slightly new here so I don't know much about creating TCG articles. What's confusing me though is the broken link on this page. When I go about creating the page should I make a sort of disambiguation page in case that there is more than 1 type of Celebi card? Or should I just make the page go right to a single card? I may not have phrased that right but hopefully somebody understands what I'm tying to ask. Help please. [[User:Zabbethx|Zabbethx]] 13:28, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

:The chances are your Celebi card already has its own article here, as we have articles on every English language Pokémon card in existence. A list of all Celebi cards can be found {{TCG|Celebi|here}}, and your card is very likely to be there. [[User:Cipher|Cipher]] 19:08, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

== Artwork ==

Can we use side-game artworks here, like Ranger? *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 07:41, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
:Why are we using this and not it's Official Art? -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:40, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::Something about most recent artwork being preferred.--The [[Delibird (Pokémon)|Kk]][[Stantler (Pokémon)|ll]][[Santa Claus|nn]][[User:Kkllnn|ator]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| サンタクロース]] 20:41, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::That ''is'' official art. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:44, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Official as in this: [[image:251Celebi.png]] Not side art. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:47, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::From what I've heard, it is ''official'' art done by an ''official'' artist just for a side game.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 21:41, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::All artwork released by Nintendo is, by definition, official. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:42, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::While this is true, I am talking about using art from the main series, not a side-game. It's inconsistent. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 14:58, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:In what way is the artwork inconsistent? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 15:01, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::You're honestly asking? Some Pokémon use their art from the main series while others use their art from a side game? It very inconsistent. That's why we have the "Artwork on Bulbagarden Archives" link in the infobox. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 15:48, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::It almost looks less consistent to have this old artwork where all the newer artwork is on other pages. I think the page on [[GSDS]] mentions it.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 15:52, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::::It's all Sugimori art. It's the same style. The Ranger art is in a different style and when compared to other art, the differences are quite existent. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 15:56, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

:::::And the Ranger artwork is more recent than the G/S/C artwork. [[Santa Claus|♥]][[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[wp:Christmas|Merry Christmas!]]) 16:01 12/21/2008

::::::That doesn't matter. There is no rule anywhere saying that we have to use the most recent artwork. The official artwork beats any other artwork out there. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 16:03, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::What about using Art from the anime? I mean in the cases of Pokémon from Johto. They are drawn by Ken Sugimori too. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 16:35, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

== Avalibility ==

I keep hearing that you can get every Pokémon on to Diamond/Pearl except Celebi, but the article says that PKMN Colosseum's Japanese bonus disk allows you to get it, why do I keep seeing that? [[User:GuyNamedSean|GuyNamedSean]] 10:13, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:Because it's true. Japanese fans were able to transfer Celebi onto their GenIII games, and then to DP through Pal Park. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 10:31, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Shining Celebi? ==

Can you even have a Shining Celebi? Cause I don't think you can catch it in Gen 3 or 4 games (eliminating the 1/8,192 chance or whatever..). And all event Celebi have been non-shiny. Right? So how did my friend get a shiny Celebi? Was there a shiny event Celebi? [[User:Sivart345|Sivart345]] 17:06, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:It's a hack. While it is possible to get a shiny one from the Japanese bonus disc, it is so unlikely that your friend got the disc, the memory card and the shiny that you can count on the fact that it is a hack.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 17:11, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
: Thanks but one more question; which event Celebi was it (just wondering), I mean the year? [[User:Sivart345|Sivart345]] 20:41, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I went at looked at the event Celebi and found 4, [[List_of_Nintendo_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_in_2003#Ageto_Celebi|Ageto Celebi (Bonus Disc)]]/[[Pok%C3%A9mon_Colosseum#Ageto_Celebi|Ageto Celebi (Colosseum link, bonus disc)]], [[List_of_Nintendo_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_in_2006#Pok.C3.A9Park_Celebi|PokéPark Celebi]], [[List_of_Nintendo_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_in_2006#Mitsurin_Celebi|Mitsurin Celebi]], and [[List_of_10th_Anniversary_event_Pok%C3%A9mon#Celebi_and_Charizard|10 ANNIV Celebi]]. All are non-shining. So doesn't that make Celebi the only Pokémon that ''cannot'' be a '''legit''' shiny? Cause I thought that event Pokémon only come non-shiny unless specified and that the 1/8192 chance refers to Pokémon in the wild?Sivart345 ([[User:Sivart345|user]] · [[User talk:Sivart345|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|contrib]]) 23:49, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I also found that no Jirachi have ever been shiny. So 2 Pokémon cannot be shiny; Celebi (see links) and Jirachi (check all the event Jirachi)Sivart345 ([[User:Sivart345|user]] · [[User talk:Sivart345|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|contrib]]) 16:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

== How is this relevant? ==

"Celebi is the mascot of Serebii.net."

Is stating mascots for website necessary?

Forgot to sign [[user:riggins]]

:Trivia is never necessary. :p But it's there just the same. BTW, when signing, write this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:25, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

::True, True but it just stick out at the top being one line. It seems even less useful then most because it's so painfully ovisous. [[User:riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]]
:::Well we have this on {{p|Bulbasaur}}:
"Bulbasaur is the mascot of Bulbasaur's Mysterious Garden."
I know it's us but still.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 22:11, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

:::Ya I just noticed and I have to agree. I still stand by my feelings that it's really not relevant BUT since it protain to us I'm afraid to challenge it. I have to say if the admins say it stays then does that mean we have to name the mascot of every fan site? It seems pretty silly seeing as there must be thousands of fan site and it does not make sense at all. Just because we and serebii are at the top doesn't mean we should get special treatment.--[[User:Riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]] 02:07, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
::::We have certain criteria for what fansites get real mention such as their own page (see here: [[Bulbapedia:Project Fandom]]), theoretically, similar criteria could be used for their mascots. For example, any fansite with an article could have their mascot mentionned.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:24, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

:::::Well ok but my point is why even point it out in the first place? If your a avid pokemon fan then your already familiar with most of the top pokemon sites. Also it is still very ovisous in it's like saying did you know that pikachu is the mascot to pokemon. If we give fansite trivia then how is it different from adding any thing that's not directly related the pokemon?--[[User:Riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]] 02:42, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::Third line of {{p|Pikachu}}:
"Pikachu is popularly known as the mascot of the Pokémon franchise."--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:54, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

:::::Yes but what I mean is avid pokemon fan go to the top fan sites regularly and will already know about there mascot and any one who would not know would most likely not be a person who cares or is a serous fan. If you don't know about serebii then your not a serous fan because the site is made for up to date news and in depth info about pokemon for people who care about that kind of stuff.

Also if they have there own article then why not have it in it's respective article as it's own trivia instead of in a pokemon article were it's irrelevant to the pokemon's info?--[[User:Riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]] 03:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

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==Celi Bee==
When did this disco artist appear and how likely is it that Game Freak knew of them? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 17:19, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
:Yea, let's get rid of that. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 11:43, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

== Quick Question, TCG ==

I have a Celebi card and I want to add the info in it's own article. I'm slightly new here so I don't know much about creating TCG articles. What's confusing me though is the broken link on this page. When I go about creating the page should I make a sort of disambiguation page in case that there is more than 1 type of Celebi card? Or should I just make the page go right to a single card? I may not have phrased that right but hopefully somebody understands what I'm tying to ask. Help please. [[User:Zabbethx|Zabbethx]] 13:28, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

:The chances are your Celebi card already has its own article here, as we have articles on every English language Pokémon card in existence. A list of all Celebi cards can be found {{TCG|Celebi|here}}, and your card is very likely to be there. [[User:Cipher|Cipher]] 19:08, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

== Artwork ==

Can we use side-game artworks here, like Ranger? *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 07:41, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
:Why are we using this and not it's Official Art? -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:40, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::Something about most recent artwork being preferred.--The [[Delibird (Pokémon)|Kk]][[Stantler (Pokémon)|ll]][[Santa Claus|nn]][[User:Kkllnn|ator]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| サンタクロース]] 20:41, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::That ''is'' official art. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:44, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Official as in this: [[image:251Celebi.png]] Not side art. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:47, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::From what I've heard, it is ''official'' art done by an ''official'' artist just for a side game.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 21:41, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::All artwork released by Nintendo is, by definition, official. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:42, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::While this is true, I am talking about using art from the main series, not a side-game. It's inconsistent. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 14:58, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:In what way is the artwork inconsistent? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 15:01, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::You're honestly asking? Some Pokémon use their art from the main series while others use their art from a side game? It very inconsistent. That's why we have the "Artwork on Bulbagarden Archives" link in the infobox. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 15:48, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::It almost looks less consistent to have this old artwork where all the newer artwork is on other pages. I think the page on [[GSDS]] mentions it.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 15:52, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::::It's all Sugimori art. It's the same style. The Ranger art is in a different style and when compared to other art, the differences are quite existent. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 15:56, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

:::::And the Ranger artwork is more recent than the G/S/C artwork. [[Santa Claus|♥]][[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[wp:Christmas|Merry Christmas!]]) 16:01 12/21/2008

::::::That doesn't matter. There is no rule anywhere saying that we have to use the most recent artwork. The official artwork beats any other artwork out there. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 16:03, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::What about using Art from the anime? I mean in the cases of Pokémon from Johto. They are drawn by Ken Sugimori too. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 16:35, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

== Avalibility ==

I keep hearing that you can get every Pokémon on to Diamond/Pearl except Celebi, but the article says that PKMN Colosseum's Japanese bonus disk allows you to get it, why do I keep seeing that? [[User:GuyNamedSean|GuyNamedSean]] 10:13, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:Because it's true. Japanese fans were able to transfer Celebi onto their GenIII games, and then to DP through Pal Park. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 10:31, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Shining Celebi? ==

Can you even have a Shining Celebi? Cause I don't think you can catch it in Gen 3 or 4 games (eliminating the 1/8,192 chance or whatever..). And all event Celebi have been non-shiny. Right? So how did my friend get a shiny Celebi? Was there a shiny event Celebi? [[User:Sivart345|Sivart345]] 17:06, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:It's a hack. While it is possible to get a shiny one from the Japanese bonus disc, it is so unlikely that your friend got the disc, the memory card and the shiny that you can count on the fact that it is a hack.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 17:11, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
: Thanks but one more question; which event Celebi was it (just wondering), I mean the year? [[User:Sivart345|Sivart345]] 20:41, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I went at looked at the event Celebi and found 4, [[List_of_Nintendo_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_in_2003#Ageto_Celebi|Ageto Celebi (Bonus Disc)]]/[[Pok%C3%A9mon_Colosseum#Ageto_Celebi|Ageto Celebi (Colosseum link, bonus disc)]], [[List_of_Nintendo_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_in_2006#Pok.C3.A9Park_Celebi|PokéPark Celebi]], [[List_of_Nintendo_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_in_2006#Mitsurin_Celebi|Mitsurin Celebi]], and [[List_of_10th_Anniversary_event_Pok%C3%A9mon#Celebi_and_Charizard|10 ANNIV Celebi]]. All are non-shining. So doesn't that make Celebi the only Pokémon that ''cannot'' be a '''legit''' shiny? Cause I thought that event Pokémon only come non-shiny unless specified and that the 1/8192 chance refers to Pokémon in the wild?Sivart345 ([[User:Sivart345|user]] · [[User talk:Sivart345|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|contrib]]) 23:49, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I also found that no Jirachi have ever been shiny. So 2 Pokémon cannot be shiny; Celebi (see links) and Jirachi (check all the event Jirachi)Sivart345 ([[User:Sivart345|user]] · [[User talk:Sivart345|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|contrib]]) 16:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

== How is this relevant? ==

"Celebi is the mascot of Serebii.net."

Is stating mascots for website necessary?

Forgot to sign [[user:riggins]]

:Trivia is never necessary. :p But it's there just the same. BTW, when signing, write this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:25, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

::True, True but it just stick out at the top being one line. It seems even less useful then most because it's so painfully ovisous. [[User:riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]]
:::Well we have this on {{p|Bulbasaur}}:
"Bulbasaur is the mascot of Bulbasaur's Mysterious Garden."
I know it's us but still.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 22:11, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

:::Ya I just noticed and I have to agree. I still sand by my feelings that it's really not relevant BUT since it protain to us I'm afraid to challenge it. I have to say if the admins say it stays then does that mean we have to name the mascot of every fan site? It seems pretty silly seeing as there must be thousands of fan site and it does not make sense at all. Just because we and serebii are at the top doesn't mean we should get special treatment.--[[User:Riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]] 02:07, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Celebi (Pokémon)

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{{PokémonPrevNext | type=psychic | type2=grass | prevnum=250 | nextnum=252 | prev=Ho-Oh | next=Treecko }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Celebi |
jname=セレビィ |
tmname=Celebi |
image=251Celebi.png|size=130|
caption=Artwork from GSC|
pron=<sc>seh-leh-bee</sc>|
ndex=251 |
jdex=251 |
hdex=386 |
fdex=212 |
adex=263 |
typen=2 |
type1=Psychic |
type2=Grass |
species=Time Travel |
height-ftin=2'00" |
height-m=0.6 |
weight-lbs=11.0 |
weight-kg=5.0 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Natural Cure |
ability2= |
egggroupn=0 |
egggroup1=No eggs |
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=120 |
evhp=3 |
expyield=64 |
lv100exp=1,059,860 |
gendercode=255 |
color=Green |
catchrate=45 |
body=12 |
pokefordex=celebi |
generation=2 |
footnotes=}}

'''Celebi''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''セレビィ''' ''Celebi'') is a dual-type {{2t|Psychic|Grass}} [[legendary Pokémon]].

It is not known to evolve into or from any other Pokémon.

Celebi is the last Pokémon in the [[List of Pokémon by Johto Dex number|Johto Dex]] and [[List of Pokémon by Hoenn Dex number|Hoenn Dex]], although in the latter, Celebi is not shown.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Celebi is a green fairy-like creature. Celebi has round, toe-less feet, three-fingered hands and clear wings on its back. Celebi has a round head that comes to a point and sticks upward in the back, large baby-blue eyes with black rings around them and a pair of green antennae that are tipped blue.

====Gender differences====
Celebi is a genderless species.

====Special abilities====
Celebi has the power to travel through time. Celebi can restore plants to perfect health (an ability that is also accredited to {{p|Meganium}}). Celebi mainly attacks with surprisingly powerful {{t|Grass}} and {{t|Psychic}} attacks.

===Behavior===
Celebi, like {{p|Mew}}, is a very playful species in general. Celebi are extremely powerful despite their small size, another trait they have in common with Mew. Celebi also can be very timid, not wanting to show themselves despite their awesome power. Although multiple Celebi have been seen at one time, it is unknown if they are different individuals or the same Celebi from different time periods. Therefore, it is virtually impossible to determine exactly how many Celebi exist.

===Habitat===
[[Image:Forest.gif|right|frame|[[List of Pokémon by habitat#Forest Pokémon|Forest Pokémon]]]]
Because Celebi travels through time, it may inhabit many places. However, Celebi is generally associated with forests. Because of this, it is known as the spirit and guardian of the forest.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:Celebi anime.jpg|right|thumb|210px|Celebi in the anime]]
[[Celebi (Pokémon 4Ever)|Celebi]] first appeared in ''[[Pokémon 4Ever]]''. A Pokémon hunter was after it and Celebi traveled 40 years into future to escape from him, taking the young [[Professor Oak|Sammy Oak]] along with it accidentally. [[Vicious]] eventually captured the time traveling Pokémon in a [[Dark Ball]] and used it to destroy the forest. {{Ash}} and Sammy managed to snap Celebi out of the Iron Masked Marauder's control.

Celebi also made an appearance in [[Pokémon Chronicles]]. In ''[[H013|Celebi and Joy]]'', Celebi took [[Ritchie]] back in time to help stop the destruction of a [[Pokémon Center]].

In ''[[AG155|Green Guardian]]'', the Pokémon Ranger [[Solana]] accompanied {{Ash}} and {{ashfr|friends}} in helping the time traveling Pokémon.

A Celebi appeared in the [[boss fantasy]] of ''[[DP092|A Lean Mean Team Rocket Machine]]''.

Celebi makes a cameo appearance in the beginning of ''[[The Rise of Darkrai]]''.

==In the manga==
In [[Pokémon Special]], [[Pryce]] aimed to capture Celebi and use its time-traveling powers to save his two {{p|Lapras}}, which he had lost years ago prior to the start of the GSC saga.

Near the end of the RS Saga, {{Special|Ruby}} is revealed to have a Celebi. He explains that due to the lack of information he had on it, he rarely uses Celebi at all. Celebi was used to retrieve the Red and Blue Orbs from [[Maxie]] and [[Archie]], to prevent them from ever controlling {{p|Groudon}} and {{p|Kyogre}} again. Then, it revived [[Norman]], [[Steven]] and [[Magma Admin Courtney]] by sending them through an altered future.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Celebi (TCG)}}

==Other appearances==
[[Image:Celebi Brawl.jpg|right|thumb|Celebi in [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]]]
===[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]/[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl|Brawl]]===
When a [[Poké Ball]] is thrown, there is a 1 in 251 chance of Celebi appearing after all these requirements have been fulfilled:
*Unlock all 25 characters
*Unlock all 29 stages
*Beat all 51 events
*Unlock the score display (by reaching 5000 KOs.)
It does not affect the battle but the thrower of the [[Poké Ball]] will earn a bonus and trophy of Celebi.

Celebi returns as a rare Pokémon in Brawl as well; the chance of it appearing is decreased to 1 in 493. Like the other "secret" Pokémon, it drops rare items instead of just {{m|Fly|flying}} away. In Celebi's case, the items are Trophies.

==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
{{spoilers}}
*[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2]]: [[Celebi (Mystery Dungeon 2 character)|A shiny Celebi]] is a supporting protagonist in the main storyline. When the player and partner are sent to the future by {{OBP|Dusknoir|Mystery Dungeon 2 character}}, the player, partner, and {{OBP|Grovyle|Mystery Dungeon 2 character}} work together to get back to the past. Celebi was the Pokémon who sent Grovyle to the past before, and the trio receive her help to go back again.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=psychic
|type2=grass
|gen=2
|golddex=This Pokémon wanders across time. Grass and trees flourish in the forests in which it has appeared.
|silverdex=When Celebi disappears deep in the forest, it is said to leave behind an egg it brought from the future.
|crystaldex=Revered as the guardian of the forest, Celebi appears wherever beautiful forests exist.
|rubydex=This Pokémon came from the future by crossing over time. It is thought that so long as Celebi appears, a bright and shining future awaits us.
|sapphiredex=This Pokémon came from the future by crossing over time. It is thought that so long as Celebi appears, a bright and shining future awaits us.
|emeralddex=This Pokémon came from the future by crossing over time. It is thought that so long as Celebi appears, a bright and shining future awaits us.
|firereddex=When Celebi disappears deep in the forest, it is said to leave behind an egg it brought from the future.
|leafgreendex=This Pokémon wanders across time. Grass and trees flourish in the forests in which it has appeared.
|stadium2dex=This Pokémon wanders across time. Grass and trees flourish in the forests in which it has appeared.
|diamonddex=It has the power to travel across time, but it is said to appear only in peaceful times.
|pearldex=It uses its powers to travel across time. It is said that it only shows itself during eras of peace.
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=psychic |
type2=grass |
gen=2 |
gen2ex=rby|
gen3ex=frlg|
frlgex=rse|
gen4ex=pal|
crarity=One |
carea=[[Ilex Forest]] (requires [[GS Ball]]) |
rsrarity=None |
rsarea=[[Trade]] |
colorarity=One |
coloarea=Purify all [[Shadow Pokémon]]{{tt|*|Requires Japanese bonus disk}} |
dprarity=None |
dparea=[[Pal Park]] |
ptrarity=None |
ptarea=[[Pal Park]] |
palarea=Forest |
}}

Much like what was the case in the [[Generation I]] games with {{p|Mew}} and [[Mew glitch|a glitch]], Celebi can be obtained in the Pokémon [[Generation II]] games by using the [[Celebi egg trick]].

Celebi is otherwise obtainable only in Nintendo promotional events ( [[List_of_Nintendo_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_in_2003#Ageto_Celebi|(1)]], [[List_of_Nintendo_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_in_2006#Mitsurin_Celebi|(2)]], [[List_of_Nintendo_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_in_2006#Pok.C3.A9Park_Celebi|(3)]], and [[List_of_10th_Anniversary_event_Pok%C3%A9mon#Celebi_and_Charizard|(4)]] ).

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=grass
|type2=psychic
|channel=[[Springleaf Field]]
|trozei=Random Agent Cards Mr. Who's Den
|md=[[Purity Forest]] (99F)
|ranger=[[Lyra Forest]] (Event mission 2)
|md2=[[Mystifying Forest]] (10F) (with [[Mystery Part and Secret Slab|Mystery Part or Secret Slab]] in the bag) (Time)
|ranger2=[[Vien Forest]] (After Completing all 59 side quests)
}}

Celebi is only obtainable in [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (Explorers of Darkness)]] after downloading a [[Wonder Mail]] from the Nintendo WFC.

===Base stats===
{{BaseStats|
type=psychic|
type2=grass|
HP=100 |
Attack=100 |
Defense=100 |
SpAtk=100 |
SpDef=100 |
Speed=100 }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP Type effectiveness|
type1=psychic|
type2=grass|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting= 50 |
Flying= 200 |
Poison= 200 |
Ground= 50 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 400 |
Ghost= 200 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric= 50 |
Psychic= 50 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 200 }}

===Learnset===
{{learnset intro|Celebi}}
====By [[level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|psychic|grass|4|2|Celebi}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Leech Seed|Grass|Status|—|90|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Confusion|Psychic|Special|50|100|25|Smart|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Heal Bell|Normal|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Recover|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|10|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|100|25|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|19|Magical Leaf|Grass|Special|60|—|20|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|28|AncientPower|Rock|Special|60|100|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|37|Baton Pass|Normal|Status|—|—|40|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|46|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|55|Heal Block|Psychic|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|64|Future Sight|Psychic|Special|80|90|15|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|73|Healing Wish|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|82|Leaf Storm|Grass|Special|140|90|5|Cute|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|91|Perish Song|Normal|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{movelist/note|4|psychic|grass}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|Psychic|Grass|4|2|Celebi}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM03]]|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM16]]|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM19]]|Giga Drain|Grass|Special|60|100|10|Smart|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM20]]|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM22]]|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10|Cool|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM29]]|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM30]]|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM33]]|Reflect|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM34]]|Shock Wave|Electric|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM37]]|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM40]]|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM48]]|Skill Swap|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM53]]|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM56]]|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10|Tough|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM57]]|Charge Beam|Electric|Special|50|90|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM62]]|Silver Wind|Bug|Special|60|100|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM70]]|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM73]]|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM75]]|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM76]]|Stealth Rock|Rock|Status|—|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM77]]|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM85]]|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15|Smart|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM86]]|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM89]]|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM92]]|Trick Room|Psychic|Status|—|—|5|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM01]]|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30|Cool|3}}
{{movelist/note|4|psychic|grass}}

====By breeding====
None.

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|psychic|grass|4|2|Celebi}}
{{mtentry4|AncientPower|Rock|Special|60|100|5|Tough|2|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Defense Curl|Normal|Status|—|—|40|Cute|2|||no|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Double-Edge|Normal|Physical|120|100|15|Tough|0|||yes|yes|yes|no|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15|Smart|1|||yes|yes|yes|no|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Earth Power|Ground|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2|||no|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Smart|1|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Last Resort|Normal|Physical|130|100|5|Cute|0|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Metronome|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|2|||yes|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Mimic|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0|||yes|yes|yes|no|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3|||no|yes|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Nightmare|Ghost|Status|—|100|15|Smart|2|||no|no|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0|||no|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Seed Bomb|Grass|Physical|80|100|15|Smart|3||'''|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Signal Beam|Bug|Special|75|100|15|Beauty|0|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3|||no|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cute|3|||no|yes|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1|||yes|yes|yes|no|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2|||no|yes|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2|||no|yes|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|0|||yes|yes|no|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Synthesis|Grass|Status|—|—|5|Smart|0|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Trick|Psychic|Status|—|100|10|Smart|0|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Uproar|Normal|Special|50|100|10|Cute|2|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15|Beauty|2||'''|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4|psychic|grass}}

====Special moves====

===Side game data===
{{Side game|
type=grass |
ndex=251 |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=99.9% |
area=Healing Forest |
P1= I traveled through time to be with you! |
P2= Oh? My health is halfway down. I'd better be careful. |
P3= Oh, no... The power of time has run out... |
PL= Yes! I gained a level! The power from the future is gaining intensity! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=yes |
typeG= Grass |
typeA= Grass |
fieldpower= 0 |
field= None |
loop=3 |
MinEXP=200 |
MaxEXP=270 |
browser= Celebi is a mirage Pokémon that summons thorny vines and flits around them. |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=20% |
iq=B |
Ranger2=yes |
typeG2= Grass |
typeA2= Grass |
field2= None |
field2power= - |
browser2= It protects itself with a psychic barrier. It attacks by shooting high-speed leaves. |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox/0|251|Celebi|2|Psychic|Grass}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=psychic|
type2=grass|
gen=2|
gender=none|
ndex=251|
name=Celebi|
}}

==Trivia==
* Celebi was the only Pokémon of the 100 [[Generation II]] Pokémon that wasn't used in the [[Johto]] [[Pokérap GS|Pokérap]].
* Celebi is notably the hardest Pokémon to obtain, as there are very few ways to legitimately obtain one outside the two Japanese version games it's found in.
* Celebi has the most weaknesses of all Pokémon, with seven. It shares this with {{p|Exeggcute}}, {{p|Exeggutor}}, {{p|Snover}} and {{p|Abomasnow}}.
* While Celebi has the power of time travel, it cannot control time, a power belonging to {{p|Dialga}}.
* Unlike most [[Legendary Pokémon|legendaries]], Celebi needs only 1,059,860 Exp. to get to level 100, whereas others need 1,250,000. It shares this trait with {{p|Mew}} and {{p|Shaymin}}. All of these Pokémon have 100 for all of their base stats.
* During the main story of [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2]], the Shiny Celebi is referred to as a female, while it is genderless in the main series.
* A 2008 [http://www.pokebeach.com/news/0708/second-pokemon-interview-with-masamitsu-hidaka-many-interesting-points interview] done with [[Masamitsu Hidaka]] by the webmaster of [[PokéBeach]] revealed that the [[GS Ball]] was initially meant to contain a Celebi that would be used in a story arc throughout the Johto series. This idea, however, was shelved, and [[Celebi (Pokémon 4Ever)|Celebi]] became a co-star of [[Pokémon 4Ever]] with {{p|Suicune}}.
* Celebi's number in the [[ndex|National Dex]] and the [[jdex|Johto Dex]] are the same: 251. This makes it one of twelve Pokémon to have the same numbers in more than one [[Pokédex]]-like listing. The other ten are all members of the {{p|Bulbasaur}}, {{p|Ralts}}, {{p|Goldeen}}, and {{p|Beldum}} evolutionary families.
*Celebi is the only Pokémon to have a Pokédex entry that is exactly the same in Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald. Other Pokémon either have unique Pokédex entries for Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald or have same Pokédex entries for Ruby and Sapphire but different entries for Emerald.

===Origin===
It may be based on a {{wp|fairy}} or {{wp|dryad}}.
====Name origin====
Celebi's name may be a combination of ''{{wp|celestial}}'' and ''being''. Celebi's Japanese name may be taken to be a combination of the English ''serenity'' and the Japanese ''bii'', which translates to ''beautiful''. It may also come from ''{{wp|celery}}'', due to the fact that Celebi is a Grass-type. It is interesting to note the similarity between "Celebi" and "telebi", the Japanese word for "television". Its name may have even originated from disco artist Celi Bee, and quite possibly, the Spanish word for onion, ''cebolla'', since Celebi's head is shaped and looks slightly like an onion.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Celebi
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Celebi
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 세레비 ''Celebi''
*[[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese]]: 雪拉比

==Related articles==
* [[Celebi (anime)]]

==External links==
*[http://www.pichi-pichi.net/celebi/ Elusive], the fanlisting for Celebi
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDucTrf7ids&fmt=18 Celebi Unedited], a video on catching Celebi in Pokémon Crystal English with GS Ball

==Notes==
{{event Pokémon}}
{{Legendary Pokémon}}
{{Smash Bros.}}
{{PokémonPrevNext | type=psychic | type2=grass | prevnum=250 | nextnum=252 | prev=Ho-Oh | next=Treecko }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Johto Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Orre Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Promotion-only Pokémon]]

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[[fr:Celebi]]
[[ja:セレビィ]]
[[pl:Celebi]]
[[pt:Celebi (pokémon)]]

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==Seriously stop!==
Ok its confirmed croagunk is male people are even talking about it now on its talk page that its a guy. And im not the only one undoing your edits ok so stop! [[User:Happizelpom|Happi]][[User talk:Happizelpom|zel]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|pom]] 02:52, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
:...s/he hasn't changed it for almost an hour now... '''~ overgrown'''[[User:Sol|s]][[User_talk:Sol|o]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|l]] 02:53, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

i know but s/he has done it 3 times already so i think we should tell this person to stop cuz s/he might do it again [[User:Happizelpom|Happi]][[User talk:Happizelpom|zel]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|pom]] 02:54, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

ugh ok you win, why do I have to keep this on my page if it resolved? {{unsigned|Riggins}}

==Talk Page Comments==
Please don't erase talk page comments for no reason. Trust me, you do NOT want to end up like {{u|Big Johnno}}, who got into an edit war with [[User:Fabu-Vinny|a sysop]] over comments the former had erased and was trying to keep erased. That user ended up blocked and subsequently had every erased comment restored. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 04:02, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
:<big><big>NO REALLY STOP TAKING OFF THE COMMENT!</big></big>--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 04:08, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Why do you care any way? I said I'd stop so that's the end of it {{unsigned|Riggins}}
:All comments are kept as a history. No exceptions. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 04:11, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

== Signature ==

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Talk:Latias (Pokémon)

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Is it worth putting in the trivia that Latias and Latios are the only legendary Pokemon confirmed by the games to be species and not individuals? Except for maybe Manaphy, since something had to have laid the egg. - [[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]]

:<s>Multiple Mew and Lugia have been seen too.</s> [[User:PH1RESTRIKE| 1337Fire ]][[User talk:PH1RESTRIKE| ►strike! ]] 14:49, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
:What I meant was, it's not really ''correct''-ish because it's really possible there are others. Take Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres in Pokémon Snap for example. [[User:PH1RESTRIKE| 1337Fire ]][[User talk:PH1RESTRIKE| ►strike! ]] 14:55, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Oh, I forgot about Snap. Thanks, sorry. - [[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]]

==Arceus==
"Latias is one of the few non-Flying-types who can learn Fly. The others are Mew, Smeargle, Vibrava, Flygon, Latios, and Giratina."

Does that mean that Arceus counts as flying type do to plates? [[User:riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]]
:Yes, Arceus can be a Flying-type due to plates, so it doesn't count. Don't forget, use four tildes to sign your posts. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:37, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

::Then some should change Latios's version because it's trivia includes Arceus. [[User:riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]]

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==Celi Bee==
When did this disco artist appear and how likely is it that Game Freak knew of them? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 17:19, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
:Yea, let's get rid of that. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 11:43, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

== Quick Question, TCG ==

I have a Celebi card and I want to add the info in it's own article. I'm slightly new here so I don't know much about creating TCG articles. What's confusing me though is the broken link on this page. When I go about creating the page should I make a sort of disambiguation page in case that there is more than 1 type of Celebi card? Or should I just make the page go right to a single card? I may not have phrased that right but hopefully somebody understands what I'm tying to ask. Help please. [[User:Zabbethx|Zabbethx]] 13:28, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

:The chances are your Celebi card already has its own article here, as we have articles on every English language Pokémon card in existence. A list of all Celebi cards can be found {{TCG|Celebi|here}}, and your card is very likely to be there. [[User:Cipher|Cipher]] 19:08, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

== Artwork ==

Can we use side-game artworks here, like Ranger? *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 07:41, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
:Why are we using this and not it's Official Art? -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:40, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::Something about most recent artwork being preferred.--The [[Delibird (Pokémon)|Kk]][[Stantler (Pokémon)|ll]][[Santa Claus|nn]][[User:Kkllnn|ator]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| サンタクロース]] 20:41, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::That ''is'' official art. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:44, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Official as in this: [[image:251Celebi.png]] Not side art. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:47, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::From what I've heard, it is ''official'' art done by an ''official'' artist just for a side game.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 21:41, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::All artwork released by Nintendo is, by definition, official. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:42, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::While this is true, I am talking about using art from the main series, not a side-game. It's inconsistent. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 14:58, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:In what way is the artwork inconsistent? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 15:01, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::You're honestly asking? Some Pokémon use their art from the main series while others use their art from a side game? It very inconsistent. That's why we have the "Artwork on Bulbagarden Archives" link in the infobox. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 15:48, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::It almost looks less consistent to have this old artwork where all the newer artwork is on other pages. I think the page on [[GSDS]] mentions it.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 15:52, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::::It's all Sugimori art. It's the same style. The Ranger art is in a different style and when compared to other art, the differences are quite existent. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 15:56, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

:::::And the Ranger artwork is more recent than the G/S/C artwork. [[Santa Claus|♥]][[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[wp:Christmas|Merry Christmas!]]) 16:01 12/21/2008

::::::That doesn't matter. There is no rule anywhere saying that we have to use the most recent artwork. The official artwork beats any other artwork out there. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 16:03, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::What about using Art from the anime? I mean in the cases of Pokémon from Johto. They are drawn by Ken Sugimori too. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 16:35, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

== Avalibility ==

I keep hearing that you can get every Pokémon on to Diamond/Pearl except Celebi, but the article says that PKMN Colosseum's Japanese bonus disk allows you to get it, why do I keep seeing that? [[User:GuyNamedSean|GuyNamedSean]] 10:13, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:Because it's true. Japanese fans were able to transfer Celebi onto their GenIII games, and then to DP through Pal Park. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 10:31, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Shining Celebi? ==

Can you even have a Shining Celebi? Cause I don't think you can catch it in Gen 3 or 4 games (eliminating the 1/8,192 chance or whatever..). And all event Celebi have been non-shiny. Right? So how did my friend get a shiny Celebi? Was there a shiny event Celebi? [[User:Sivart345|Sivart345]] 17:06, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:It's a hack. While it is possible to get a shiny one from the Japanese bonus disc, it is so unlikely that your friend got the disc, the memory card and the shiny that you can count on the fact that it is a hack.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 17:11, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
: Thanks but one more question; which event Celebi was it (just wondering), I mean the year? [[User:Sivart345|Sivart345]] 20:41, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I went at looked at the event Celebi and found 4, [[List_of_Nintendo_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_in_2003#Ageto_Celebi|Ageto Celebi (Bonus Disc)]]/[[Pok%C3%A9mon_Colosseum#Ageto_Celebi|Ageto Celebi (Colosseum link, bonus disc)]], [[List_of_Nintendo_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_in_2006#Pok.C3.A9Park_Celebi|PokéPark Celebi]], [[List_of_Nintendo_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_in_2006#Mitsurin_Celebi|Mitsurin Celebi]], and [[List_of_10th_Anniversary_event_Pok%C3%A9mon#Celebi_and_Charizard|10 ANNIV Celebi]]. All are non-shining. So doesn't that make Celebi the only Pokémon that ''cannot'' be a '''legit''' shiny? Cause I thought that event Pokémon only come non-shiny unless specified and that the 1/8192 chance refers to Pokémon in the wild?Sivart345 ([[User:Sivart345|user]] · [[User talk:Sivart345|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|contrib]]) 23:49, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I also found that no Jirachi have ever been shiny. So 2 Pokémon cannot be shiny; Celebi (see links) and Jirachi (check all the event Jirachi)Sivart345 ([[User:Sivart345|user]] · [[User talk:Sivart345|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|contrib]]) 16:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

== How is this relevant? ==

"Celebi is the mascot of Serebii.net."

Is stating mascots for website necessary?

Forgot to sign [[user:riggins]]

:Trivia is never necessary. :p But it's there just the same. BTW, when signing, write this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:25, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

::True, True but it just stick out at the top one line. It seems even less useful then most because it's so painfully ovisous. [[User:riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]]

Talk:Latias (Pokémon)

2009-03-03T09:30:47Z

Riggins:

Is it worth putting in the trivia that Latias and Latios are the only legendary Pokemon confirmed by the games to be species and not individuals? Except for maybe Manaphy, since something had to have laid the egg. - [[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]]

:<s>Multiple Mew and Lugia have been seen too.</s> [[User:PH1RESTRIKE| 1337Fire ]][[User talk:PH1RESTRIKE| ►strike! ]] 14:49, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
:What I meant was, it's not really ''correct''-ish because it's really possible there are others. Take Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres in Pokémon Snap for example. [[User:PH1RESTRIKE| 1337Fire ]][[User talk:PH1RESTRIKE| ►strike! ]] 14:55, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Oh, I forgot about Snap. Thanks, sorry. - [[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]]

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"Latias is one of the few non-Flying-types who can learn Fly. The others are Mew, Smeargle, Vibrava, Flygon, Latios, and Giratina."

Does that mean that Arceuscounts as flying type do to plates? or does it mean that the one I got on GTS is hacked is some way(well most likely? [[User:riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]]

Talk:Latias (Pokémon)

2009-03-03T09:28:39Z

Riggins:

Is it worth putting in the trivia that Latias and Latios are the only legendary Pokemon confirmed by the games to be species and not individuals? Except for maybe Manaphy, since something had to have laid the egg. - [[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]]

:<s>Multiple Mew and Lugia have been seen too.</s> [[User:PH1RESTRIKE| 1337Fire ]][[User talk:PH1RESTRIKE| ►strike! ]] 14:49, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
:What I meant was, it's not really ''correct''-ish because it's really possible there are others. Take Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres in Pokémon Snap for example. [[User:PH1RESTRIKE| 1337Fire ]][[User talk:PH1RESTRIKE| ►strike! ]] 14:55, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Oh, I forgot about Snap. Thanks, sorry. - [[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]]

"Latias is one of the few non-Flying-types who can learn Fly. The others are Mew, Smeargle, Vibrava, Flygon, Latios, and Giratina."

Does that mean that Arceuscounts as flying type do to plates? or does it mean that the one I got on GTS is hacked is some way(well most likely?

Talk:Celebi (Pokémon)

2009-03-03T09:21:11Z

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Talk:Celebi (Pokémon)

2009-03-03T09:20:16Z

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==Celi Bee==
When did this disco artist appear and how likely is it that Game Freak knew of them? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 17:19, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
:Yea, let's get rid of that. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 11:43, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

== Quick Question, TCG ==

I have a Celebi card and I want to add the info in it's own article. I'm slightly new here so I don't know much about creating TCG articles. What's confusing me though is the broken link on this page. When I go about creating the page should I make a sort of disambiguation page in case that there is more than 1 type of Celebi card? Or should I just make the page go right to a single card? I may not have phrased that right but hopefully somebody understands what I'm tying to ask. Help please. [[User:Zabbethx|Zabbethx]] 13:28, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

:The chances are your Celebi card already has its own article here, as we have articles on every English language Pokémon card in existence. A list of all Celebi cards can be found {{TCG|Celebi|here}}, and your card is very likely to be there. [[User:Cipher|Cipher]] 19:08, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

== Artwork ==

Can we use side-game artworks here, like Ranger? *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 07:41, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
:Why are we using this and not it's Official Art? -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:40, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::Something about most recent artwork being preferred.--The [[Delibird (Pokémon)|Kk]][[Stantler (Pokémon)|ll]][[Santa Claus|nn]][[User:Kkllnn|ator]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| サンタクロース]] 20:41, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::That ''is'' official art. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:44, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Official as in this: [[image:251Celebi.png]] Not side art. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:47, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::From what I've heard, it is ''official'' art done by an ''official'' artist just for a side game.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 21:41, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::All artwork released by Nintendo is, by definition, official. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:42, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::While this is true, I am talking about using art from the main series, not a side-game. It's inconsistent. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 14:58, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:In what way is the artwork inconsistent? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 15:01, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::You're honestly asking? Some Pokémon use their art from the main series while others use their art from a side game? It very inconsistent. That's why we have the "Artwork on Bulbagarden Archives" link in the infobox. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 15:48, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::It almost looks less consistent to have this old artwork where all the newer artwork is on other pages. I think the page on [[GSDS]] mentions it.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 15:52, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::::It's all Sugimori art. It's the same style. The Ranger art is in a different style and when compared to other art, the differences are quite existent. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 15:56, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

:::::And the Ranger artwork is more recent than the G/S/C artwork. [[Santa Claus|♥]][[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[wp:Christmas|Merry Christmas!]]) 16:01 12/21/2008

::::::That doesn't matter. There is no rule anywhere saying that we have to use the most recent artwork. The official artwork beats any other artwork out there. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 16:03, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::What about using Art from the anime? I mean in the cases of Pokémon from Johto. They are drawn by Ken Sugimori too. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 16:35, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

== Avalibility ==

I keep hearing that you can get every Pokémon on to Diamond/Pearl except Celebi, but the article says that PKMN Colosseum's Japanese bonus disk allows you to get it, why do I keep seeing that? [[User:GuyNamedSean|GuyNamedSean]] 10:13, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:Because it's true. Japanese fans were able to transfer Celebi onto their GenIII games, and then to DP through Pal Park. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 10:31, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Shining Celebi? ==

Can you even have a Shining Celebi? Cause I don't think you can catch it in Gen 3 or 4 games (eliminating the 1/8,192 chance or whatever..). And all event Celebi have been non-shiny. Right? So how did my friend get a shiny Celebi? Was there a shiny event Celebi? [[User:Sivart345|Sivart345]] 17:06, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:It's a hack. While it is possible to get a shiny one from the Japanese bonus disc, it is so unlikely that your friend got the disc, the memory card and the shiny that you can count on the fact that it is a hack.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 17:11, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
: Thanks but one more question; which event Celebi was it (just wondering), I mean the year? [[User:Sivart345|Sivart345]] 20:41, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I went at looked at the event Celebi and found 4, [[List_of_Nintendo_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_in_2003#Ageto_Celebi|Ageto Celebi (Bonus Disc)]]/[[Pok%C3%A9mon_Colosseum#Ageto_Celebi|Ageto Celebi (Colosseum link, bonus disc)]], [[List_of_Nintendo_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_in_2006#Pok.C3.A9Park_Celebi|PokéPark Celebi]], [[List_of_Nintendo_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_in_2006#Mitsurin_Celebi|Mitsurin Celebi]], and [[List_of_10th_Anniversary_event_Pok%C3%A9mon#Celebi_and_Charizard|10 ANNIV Celebi]]. All are non-shining. So doesn't that make Celebi the only Pokémon that ''cannot'' be a '''legit''' shiny? Cause I thought that event Pokémon only come non-shiny unless specified and that the 1/8192 chance refers to Pokémon in the wild?Sivart345 ([[User:Sivart345|user]] · [[User talk:Sivart345|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|contrib]]) 23:49, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I also found that no Jirachi have ever been shiny. So 2 Pokémon cannot be shiny; Celebi (see links) and Jirachi (check all the event Jirachi)Sivart345 ([[User:Sivart345|user]] · [[User talk:Sivart345|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|contrib]]) 16:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

== How is this relevant? ==

"Celebi is the mascot of Serebii.net."

1.Ok seeing as it Serebii one can make a pretty good guess what the mascot is

2.If your here chances are you already familiar with Serebii.net

3.Is stating mascots for website necessary?

Forgot to sing [[user:riggins]]

Talk:Celebi (Pokémon)

2009-03-03T09:17:25Z

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==Celi Bee==
When did this disco artist appear and how likely is it that Game Freak knew of them? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 17:19, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
:Yea, let's get rid of that. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 11:43, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

== Quick Question, TCG ==

I have a Celebi card and I want to add the info in it's own article. I'm slightly new here so I don't know much about creating TCG articles. What's confusing me though is the broken link on this page. When I go about creating the page should I make a sort of disambiguation page in case that there is more than 1 type of Celebi card? Or should I just make the page go right to a single card? I may not have phrased that right but hopefully somebody understands what I'm tying to ask. Help please. [[User:Zabbethx|Zabbethx]] 13:28, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

:The chances are your Celebi card already has its own article here, as we have articles on every English language Pokémon card in existence. A list of all Celebi cards can be found {{TCG|Celebi|here}}, and your card is very likely to be there. [[User:Cipher|Cipher]] 19:08, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

== Artwork ==

Can we use side-game artworks here, like Ranger? *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 07:41, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
:Why are we using this and not it's Official Art? -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:40, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::Something about most recent artwork being preferred.--The [[Delibird (Pokémon)|Kk]][[Stantler (Pokémon)|ll]][[Santa Claus|nn]][[User:Kkllnn|ator]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| サンタクロース]] 20:41, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::That ''is'' official art. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:44, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Official as in this: [[image:251Celebi.png]] Not side art. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:47, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::From what I've heard, it is ''official'' art done by an ''official'' artist just for a side game.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 21:41, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::All artwork released by Nintendo is, by definition, official. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:42, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::While this is true, I am talking about using art from the main series, not a side-game. It's inconsistent. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 14:58, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:In what way is the artwork inconsistent? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 15:01, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::You're honestly asking? Some Pokémon use their art from the main series while others use their art from a side game? It very inconsistent. That's why we have the "Artwork on Bulbagarden Archives" link in the infobox. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 15:48, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::It almost looks less consistent to have this old artwork where all the newer artwork is on other pages. I think the page on [[GSDS]] mentions it.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 15:52, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::::It's all Sugimori art. It's the same style. The Ranger art is in a different style and when compared to other art, the differences are quite existent. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 15:56, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

:::::And the Ranger artwork is more recent than the G/S/C artwork. [[Santa Claus|♥]][[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[wp:Christmas|Merry Christmas!]]) 16:01 12/21/2008

::::::That doesn't matter. There is no rule anywhere saying that we have to use the most recent artwork. The official artwork beats any other artwork out there. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 16:03, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::What about using Art from the anime? I mean in the cases of Pokémon from Johto. They are drawn by Ken Sugimori too. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 16:35, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

== Avalibility ==

I keep hearing that you can get every Pokémon on to Diamond/Pearl except Celebi, but the article says that PKMN Colosseum's Japanese bonus disk allows you to get it, why do I keep seeing that? [[User:GuyNamedSean|GuyNamedSean]] 10:13, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:Because it's true. Japanese fans were able to transfer Celebi onto their GenIII games, and then to DP through Pal Park. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 10:31, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Shining Celebi? ==

Can you even have a Shining Celebi? Cause I don't think you can catch it in Gen 3 or 4 games (eliminating the 1/8,192 chance or whatever..). And all event Celebi have been non-shiny. Right? So how did my friend get a shiny Celebi? Was there a shiny event Celebi? [[User:Sivart345|Sivart345]] 17:06, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:It's a hack. While it is possible to get a shiny one from the Japanese bonus disc, it is so unlikely that your friend got the disc, the memory card and the shiny that you can count on the fact that it is a hack.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 17:11, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
: Thanks but one more question; which event Celebi was it (just wondering), I mean the year? [[User:Sivart345|Sivart345]] 20:41, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I went at looked at the event Celebi and found 4, [[List_of_Nintendo_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_in_2003#Ageto_Celebi|Ageto Celebi (Bonus Disc)]]/[[Pok%C3%A9mon_Colosseum#Ageto_Celebi|Ageto Celebi (Colosseum link, bonus disc)]], [[List_of_Nintendo_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_in_2006#Pok.C3.A9Park_Celebi|PokéPark Celebi]], [[List_of_Nintendo_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_in_2006#Mitsurin_Celebi|Mitsurin Celebi]], and [[List_of_10th_Anniversary_event_Pok%C3%A9mon#Celebi_and_Charizard|10 ANNIV Celebi]]. All are non-shining. So doesn't that make Celebi the only Pokémon that ''cannot'' be a '''legit''' shiny? Cause I thought that event Pokémon only come non-shiny unless specified and that the 1/8192 chance refers to Pokémon in the wild?Sivart345 ([[User:Sivart345|user]] · [[User talk:Sivart345|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|contrib]]) 23:49, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I also found that no Jirachi have ever been shiny. So 2 Pokémon cannot be shiny; Celebi (see links) and Jirachi (check all the event Jirachi)Sivart345 ([[User:Sivart345|user]] · [[User talk:Sivart345|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|contrib]]) 16:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

== How is this relevant? ==

"Celebi is the mascot of Serebii.net."

1.Ok seeing as it Serebii one can make a pretty good guess what the mascot is

2.If your here chances are you already familiar with Serebii.net

3.Is stating mascots for website necessary?

User:Riggins

2009-02-26T02:32:52Z

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Well this my page..........ya

 

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Talk:Chikorita (Pokémon)

2009-02-26T01:23:33Z

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Talk:Chikorita (Pokémon)

2009-02-26T01:23:00Z

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==Converting to Emerald Artwork?==

I notice that the Totodile Page has been given artwork from Emerald, so should we do the same for Cyndaquil and Chikorita?

:Go ahead we did that to the sinnoh starters--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 22:06, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
::-_- The Sinnoh starters didn't get artwork from Emerald, they got it from Platinum. Anyways, I suppose you could, but you'll have to upload the pictures. - [[User:SpontaneousCombusken|spontaneous'''Combusken''']] 22:13, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

::I knew what meant SpontaneousCombusken -_- I just wasn't being specific--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 22:47, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Is there emerald art o the archives? Pluss Croconaw has TCG art--[[User:David aipom|Davidaipom]] 17:41, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Still Sugimori art... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:33, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

== Mudkip Errors ==
It says on the Mudkip Page that [[Mudkip]] is the only quadruped [[starter Pokemon]].However, Chikorita and [[Turtwig]] are quadrupeds. I am going to edit that. --[[User:4XPokeX54Z009|I like articunos and mudkips!!!]] 11:52, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
:That's true, but if you have read it more clearly, it said, "Mudkip is the only '''Water-type starter that is quadrupedal.'''"[[User:Deathgabriel|Deat]][[User talk:Deathgabriel|hgab]][[User:Deathgabriel/SandBox|riel]] 11:56, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
::And why is this on the Chikorita page? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|10% Satisfaction Guaranteed!]] 16:20, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

== That's odd ==

This page says Grovyle and Chikorita have the same height that seem odd is this a error or are they really the same size? [[User:Riggins]]

That's definitely gotta be false... if that's on the page, its gotta be removed...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 00:52, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

:No It may seem wrong but they are the same size my PokeDex says so.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 00:59, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
::Well... what do ya(he, he... I said "ya") know? I checked on the Grovyle page and its true... they are the same size... except for the anime... Grovyle are huge in the anime...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 01:03, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

I just checked my pokedex too, but ya that Pokemon for you. Some how a first stage Pokemon is the same size as a basic stage Pokemon. So maybe that should be a trivia or some thing? I'm not sure if it's even important to point out.[[User:Riggins]]
:::In my opinion, I don't think much of it should be mentioned... maybe a bit, but not much...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 01:15, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

:It would make a very funny "Did you know..." in my In my opinion[[User:Riggins]]

Talk:Chikorita (Pokémon)

2009-02-26T01:14:37Z

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